cpk1alex__: I think I was having this problem before... is there anything in the plugins directory in .mozilla?12:12
blizzzekindeed, it is kinda red here ;)12:12
sbaushnosrednaekim: have you ideas?12:12
cpk1!ask | pappy_12:12
ubotupappy_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:12
alex__no I don't think I have a .mozila12:12
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alex__only a ~/.mozilla12:12
pappy_somehow i manage to screw my apt rep12:13
cpk1alex__: thats what I meant12:13
nosrednaekimsbaush: nope12:13
tarnoldthis is ridiculus my screens not proportional anymore12:13
tarnoldwhat do i do?12:13
alex__yeah there is12:13
nosrednaekimtarnold: what kind of video chipset do you have?12:13
tarnoldnvidia i think12:13
alex__1) flashplayer-installer 2) flashplayer.xpt 3)libflashplayer.so and 4)readme.txt12:13
tarnoldit never did this before12:13
nosrednaekimtarnold: so explain your problem better...12:14
alex__but firefox just isn't takeing notice or something12:14
yuki I am unable to connect to a wireless network using WEP, but connecting to an unencrypted WLAN works like a charm.  Does anyone have an idea of how to fix that? :P12:14
aloneayay! I got it to work!12:15
tarnoldthe defualt view is somewhere  in teh middle of the screen, and to get to the kicker, i have to drag my mouse down and to see the rest of the kicker i have to drag it to the right\12:15
cpk1alex__: what does it say you have for flash when you go to about:plugins in firefox?12:15
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utnubukis anybody aware of a skippy type package that doesnt use a hotkey, but works when the mouse is moved to a corner of the screen?12:15
aloneaOk, someone told me about a superuser or root or something file system viewer but I dont see it here in Kubuntu.12:15
nosrednaekimtarnold: ahh ok.... did you try restarting X?12:15
pappy_guys .. and gals can someone tell me how to restore the original repository?12:15
cpk1!easysource | pappy_12:15
ubotupappy_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:15
tarnoldhow do i do that12:15
nosrednaekimalonea  just do "kdesu konqueror"12:15
nosrednaekimtarnold: do that...and if it doesn't fix it...come back12:16
tarnoldok, how do i do that though?12:16
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aloneanosrednaekim: yeah, that thing. Is there a link to it somewhere or do I just have to make a button myself with that command?12:16
tarnoldis there a man page for restarting x?12:16
nosrednaekimtarnold: logout and ctrl alt bkspce12:16
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ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:16
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pappy_i did this what i must do next?12:18
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tarnoldnosrednaekim: i hit control alt backspace, and its still the persisting12:20
tarnoldhey all im back, i tried restarting X but to no avail12:20
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ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:21
stdintarnold: To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart  in a console12:21
pappy_guys do u know where i have to copy teh outpout from  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/12:21
stdinpappy_: /etc/apt/sources.list12:22
pappy_great thx12:22
tarnoldstdin: ill try that12:22
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pappy_thx guys it worked12:25
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stukreitgreetings, all. I would like to know how to reconfigure an unbuntu install to start up the window system, kubuntu or whatever. (this is because installation was failing when I selected kubuntu from the start)12:26
MinatakuI know it's off topic, but I urge everyone to join me in a boycott of all holdings and assets of Viacom in response to their incredibly asinine lawsuit against YouTube/Google in the amount of one billion USD for copyright infringement12:27
pappy_is it easy to install beryl?12:27
stdinpappy_: are you on edgy or dapper?12:27
stdinpappy_: then it's really quite easy12:27
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stdinpappy_: what's your graphics hardware?12:28
pappy_and how do i do this?12:28
pappy_it's a Gforce 7600GS 256 MB12:28
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stdinthat's nvidia isn't it?12:29
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Daisuke_Idoooh, sorry12:29
Daisuke_Idomake sure you get the newest drivers.  i didn't and regret it12:29
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:29
Ashex|WorkI recommend using automatix bleeder to get it going12:30
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:30
stdindon't use that god damn software12:30
Daisuke_Idoautomatix is the devil12:30
scribzyeah automatix sucketh much12:30
tarnoldstdin: i typed in that command and then the computer went black with an underscore that was blinking and i  hit the power button, the pc powered off and when i restarted it came up with the same mest up borders/ scrolling features12:30
Daisuke_Idonormally i'd say something about language, but in this case, it's appropriate12:30
Daisuke_Idoand DEFINITELY don't use the bleeder12:31
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pappy_i think i have the latest drivers. is there a way to see what version i have?12:31
Admiral_Chicagoi suggest we program the bot to not let anyone use the A word in this channel12:31
Daisuke_Idobecause it will screw you six ways to sunday12:31
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MinatakuJust have it trigger on that word with a warning12:31
Admiral_ChicagoMinataku: ya12:31
Daisuke_Idopappy_: got an nvidia control panel?12:31
pappy_which is strange i think12:32
Daisuke_Idosystem > nvidia x server settings (by default)12:32
Daisuke_Idoyou'll have to get them from nvidia's site anyhow12:32
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pappy_no i don't have this12:32
Daisuke_Idouse the aiglx howto12:32
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tarnolddoes anyone know what i should do now?12:33
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tarnoldam i lost beyond hope?12:33
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pappy_nobody is lost like that. there iis always hope12:34
tarnoldwell my laptop the screen goes off the edges12:34
Minatakutarnold: Are you using the VESA framebuffer driver?12:35
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MinatakuI know my system had issues with the tridentfb driver, everything was all messed up12:35
tarnoldi hit suspend last night and it did nothign then hit the power button and when i restarted tonight it came on all funky like this12:36
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utnubukHow make a package initialize at login??12:36
utnubukif that makes any sense...12:36
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Minatakutarnold: Shut it down and let it sit for a minute or two12:37
MinatakuFull shutdown, sudo shutdown -h now12:37
tarnoldwhat happens if it doesn't work then?12:38
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Minatakutarnold: Come back12:38
tarnoldhey it said time expected12:39
tarnoldits not shutting down12:39
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Morvokanyone have idea's for powering a homemade rack? this isn't all that off topic becuase most of the hardware runs (k)ubuntu12:40
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firemonkeyballzwhat kind of hardware are you thinking of?12:41
Morvokassortment of about 50 mobo's. I can run 4 boards of one psu. but wiring them (cut + splice) and all that wire looks to be expensive and time consuming.12:42
Ashex|Workuse a low-power psu for each (350W will work) to avoid overloading your circuit. a ups would be a good idea depending on how stable your power is12:43
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firemonkeyballzmorvok arent there any mobos you can dasy chain?12:44
sparrthere is a kde screensaver named "Polyhedra", it shows 3d animated polyhedra along with all their specs (faces, vertices, edges, euler number, wythoff symbol, symmetry, etc).  is there any where/way i can get that information and imagery in a less random fashion?  not on wikipedia or mathworld :(12:44
MorvokfireMonkeyballz: not really. another from a p100 to p4's some sparcs and couple makes. my aphla and hppa will stay in there cases.12:45
bobesponjaa friend of mine just installed kUbuntu, can I ssh to his computer or does he need to install ssh or something?12:45
Ashex|Worksudo apt-get install openssh12:45
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kiliananyone knows how to poweroff the system with kdelirc?12:45
bobesponjaAshex|Work: thanx12:46
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firemonkeyballzumm cant remmeber the client program that windows/linux used for secure shelll12:46
firemonkeyballzI'lll have to go over my notes12:46
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cpk1kilian: you have a remote control for your computer?12:47
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Morvokdo they make extensions for mobo power cords?12:47
Morvokhrm.. *checks star tech.12:48
tarnoldstdin: its still not working12:48
kilianand i want to use it for shutting down12:48
tarnoldit looks like it didn't even shut down12:48
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tarnoldstdin: when it came back up the konsole, and gaim i had running also appeared12:49
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cpk1kilian: where did you get the remote and how well does it work? I am interested in getting one12:49
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kiliancpk1: take a loog at www.lirc.org12:50
ghetekhow do i use the autostart?12:50
stdintarnold: try "sudo shutdown -hP now" to power off12:50
stdin!autostart | ghetek12:51
ubotughetek: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.12:51
cpk1kilian: alright thank you =)12:51
tarnoldstdin: stdin: ok, trying that12:51
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ghetekstdin: im using the gui application12:53
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ghetekand it all seems to be ok, but when i restart i just get an error12:53
stdinwhat error is it?12:54
gheteki dont know, i would have to restart12:54
stdinwhat are you trying to autostart ?12:54
ghetekif i pastebin the file in .kde/autostart could you troubleshoot it?12:54
stdinyeah, I'll give it a go12:54
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Kr4t05Anyone in here successfully gotten the Wii Remote to work with CWiid?12:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:55
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firemonkeyballzhey how do you reset the kdewallet?12:56
firemonkeyballzI forgot my password12:56
ghetekstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10287/12:57
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surgyok guys12:57
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Ashex|Workfiremonkeyballz, I'm a little foggy, but it's in system settings12:57
Ashex|Workyou can delete the wallet and create a new one12:58
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ForgeAushey all :)12:58
surgyi dont mean to start a flame war but i need to format my both of my hard drives including the one with kubuntu im trying to switch to fedora12:58
ForgeAussurgy so whats the problem?12:59
MorboThe fedora install CD will have a partitioner, surgy12:59
firemonkeyballzk found it ashex.... does kopote need it to run or can I turn it off?12:59
surgybut kubuntu is messing with my install, so i need to format that hard drive and my fedora hard drive, im currently in my rescue environment on fedora anyone wanna help?12:59
surgymorbo: it doesnt show my hdds right12:59
Morbo#fedora, surgy?12:59
ForgeAusis the fedore a live CD?12:59
surgyfedora is not a live cd and im in #fedora, they sent me to you guys to help me get rid of kubuntu01:00
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Morbosurgy: It's their problem if you're using their partitioner01:00
stdinghetek: do you have to enter a password to mount it?01:00
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ghetekstdin: no i already ran ssh-keygen and when in konsole i just enter that command to mount it01:01
Ashex|Workfiremonkeyballz, it stores the accounts in kwallet01:01
surgymorbo: unless the kubuntu partitioner screwed it up so the fedora partitioner cant mess with it01:01
Ashex|Workso if you delete the wallet, you'll need to setup your accounts again01:01
stdinghetek: ok, try replacing that with a shell script, rather than a .desktop file01:01
ghetekstdin: just drop it into that autostart durectory?01:01
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Ashex|Workfiremonkeyballz, you may also want to delete the contents of .kde/share/apps/kopete01:02
stdinghetek: yeah, like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10288/ , just make sure it's set as executable and it will run01:02
Ashex|WorkI had some issues with kwallet awhile back and had to recreate my wallet01:02
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Ashex|Workkopete flipped out by trying to use the contacts list it had stored, but for some reason I ended up with duplicates in aim01:03
tarnoldwell my screen is still wack01:03
firemonkeyballzashex is that in the home folder?01:03
Ashex|Workfiremonkeyballz, yes01:04
tarnoldi can't tell if the pc is even shutting down01:04
Ashex|Worksorry, I left the ~/ off01:04
tarnoldboth gaim and the konsole and konversation now appear on startup wheras they didn't before01:04
tarnoldthis is bollacks01:04
ghetekthanks stdin01:04
Ashex|Worktarnold, in the system settings you can set it to startup with a clean session01:04
Ashex|Workor a saved session01:05
tarnoldkmenu-->system settings?01:05
stdinghetek: no problem  :-)01:05
Ashex|Worktarnold, yes01:05
tarnoldwhere from there?01:05
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Ashex|Worktarnold, one second01:05
Jucatotarnold: you can also quit those apps before  you logout01:05
Ashex|WorkI need to remote to my desktop :p01:05
ghetekhey guys, is there any way to reduce the security in kubuntu? i shouldnt need to reenter a password whenever i switch wireless networks or play wih printers. can i just add my self to the sudo group or something?01:05
JucatoSystem Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager01:05
Ashex|Workthanks Jucato01:05
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tarnolddidn't realize that, ok01:06
tarnoldgoing to session manager now01:06
tarnoldanyone got a lock on my other screen size/having to scroll around issue01:06
stdinghetek: yeah, I add my self to the sudo group and I don't need to enter a password to use sudo. Just make sure you have a strong password and lock your session when you're not using it01:07
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ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead01:07
ghetekstdin: is that through kcontrol?01:07
ghetekstdin: or is that a commandline thing?01:08
tarnoldbut ive only got one laptop display...does it think its two seperate screens? im about to reboot into windows01:08
tarnoldi don't want too though....:(01:08
stdinghetek: kcontrol, system settings, what ever you want, just add yourself to the "sudo" group. You'll need to logout and back in for the changes to take effect tho01:08
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Ashex|Worktarnold, I don't quite understand your issue, can you reiterate?01:10
tarnoldif i take a screen shot can i copy it into pastebin?01:10
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tarnoldso you might see what im talking about? since i guess my words aren't a good enough picture01:10
Ashex|Workyeah, but I don't think pastebin takes pictures01:10
ghetekstdin: testing it out! restarting.01:11
Ashex|Workuse imageshack or something along those lines01:11
tarnoldno use copy01:11
firemonkeyballzashex this folder? /home/firemonkeyballz/.kde/share/apps/kopete01:11
tarnoldwell idk have image shack01:11
stdinghetek: you don't need to restart01:11
stdinghetek: just logout and back in01:11
tarnoldk ill try to use words01:11
stdintarnold: use http://imageshack.us to post images to01:11
tarnoldmy screen is not bound by my desktop its not all there at once and to see my clock on the kicker i have to move the mouse right...01:12
Ashex|Workfiremonkeyballz, yes01:12
Ashex|Worktarnold, Ah01:12
tarnoldto see the .db file for skype id downloaded that is in the upper left of my desktop i have to move the mouse up and to left01:12
Ashex|Worktarnold, so you're saying the display is larger then your screen?01:12
neptunepinktarnold: Your desktop is bigger than your screen, and if you move your mouse over to the side, it moves, and maybe something happens if you press ctrl-alt-+?01:12
tarnoldthats it01:12
aloneaok, its kdesu konqueror right? i dont see it loading anything..01:12
Ashex|Worktarnold, do you have a widescreen laptop?01:13
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Ashex|Work!resolution | tarnold01:13
ubotutarnold: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:13
firemonkeyballzok one other thing cant get it to connect to aim01:13
tarnold17 inch01:13
Ashex|Worktarnold, widescreen by chance?01:13
Ashex|Workcheck that link mentioned above01:13
tarnoldnow ive tried restarting x and i don't think it did anything01:13
tarnoldi think its widescreen01:13
Ashex|Workwhat was the resolution in windows?01:14
tarnoldat least the box and all literature about it said its a widescreen01:14
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tarnoldive forgot01:14
tarnoldit was the max though01:14
alonea1440 by 800 i think tarnold?01:14
Ashex|Worktake a look at the link from ubotu01:14
Ashex|Work1440x900 is widescreen01:14
tarnoldalonea: possibly01:14
tarnoldhow can i find out what it is in linux?01:14
alonea900! there we go. I have same size screen as that.01:14
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Ashex|Worksystem settings>display01:15
firemonkeyballzkopete cant connect to aim01:15
tarnoldhey all when i hit take screenshot01:16
tarnoldfrom teh graphics icon in kmenu, the little preview that came up was everyhting from teh kmenu to the shortcut for my usb drive, to the clock at the other end of the kicker01:16
tarnoldok so what do i do?01:17
Ashex|Worktarnold, that's because it's taking a shot of your entire desktop, not just the viewable desktop01:17
tarnoldis there something i can do?01:17
firemonkeyballzeh.. screw this... gonna use wine and trillian01:17
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ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:18
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Ashex|Workfiremonkeyballz, running trillian under wine is just...retarded01:18
Daisuke_Idojust use kopete.  much more elegant :D01:19
jake__ubotu: my adept crashed, i forgot the command. thanx01:19
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tarnoldashex|work:ive tried restarting X and all i got is a blank screen with an underscore blinking and it did nothing and i then had to hold down the power button to turn it off01:19
bxnpguys i am building a program with apt-build01:20
Ashex|Worktarnold, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:20
tarnoldok whats that do?01:20
bxnpis it a problem if i abort that build01:20
aloneaok, mplayer is asking for gtk devel packages, what is the name on adept?01:20
stdin!aptfix | jake__01:20
ubotujake__: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:20
arassinewbie - looking for kubuntu repositories???01:20
Ashex|Worktarnold, check that link ubotu gave you01:20
tarnoldi did01:20
firemonkeyballzashex it kopete wont connect to aim01:20
jake__thanx] 01:20
Ashex|Worktarnold, it reconfigures xorg to use the proper resolution01:20
tarnoldgod i must be really stupid01:20
Ashex|Worktarnold, just make sure you select 1440x900 as your resolution01:21
arassinewbie - looking for kubuntu repositories???01:21
Ashex|Workif your screen is a wide01:21
tarnoldi believe so01:21
Ashex|Work!repositories > arassi01:21
tarnoldcan anyone say why htis might have happened?01:21
stdinarassi: for what?01:21
Ashex|Worktarnold, video with laptop is a little tricky01:21
Ashex|WorkXorg is supposed to detect the video card and monitor and then generate an xorg.conf to match01:22
Daisuke_Ido!repositories | arassi01:22
ubotuarassi: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:22
stdintarnold: you choose a resolution that your monitor can't support01:22
arassithanx  Ashex|Work01:22
tarnoldhuh cos i never chose one before01:22
Ashex|Workhowever, with laptops they use proprietary names, so Xorg can sometimes screw up01:22
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Ashex|Workit does it on install01:22
Daisuke_Idodoes > work with bot commands?01:22
Ashex|Workno problem arassi :)01:23
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stdintarnold: well, the xorg configure script chose one then :P01:23
Ashex|WorkDaisuke_Ido, yup. it will pm the target01:23
Ashex|Workkeeps the channel clean01:23
tarnoldhey  how do i know what x xerver driver i have?01:23
Daisuke_Idoah.  now i feel like a retard :D01:23
Ashex|Workdo you have an nvidia or ati chipset?01:23
tarnoldit lists all these options..tseng, vesa, vga, via, vmware, voodoo...?01:23
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ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications01:23
stdinDaisuke_Ido: you can also do "ubotu: tell Person about Thing", that's the same as "thing > Person"01:24
Daisuke_Idoah ha01:24
tarnoldif ive an nvidia graphics card would that be what i want?01:24
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes01:24
Ashex|Worktarnold, select nv if you have an nvidia graphics card01:24
nosrednaekimtarnold: do you have the nvidia binary driver installed?01:24
Ashex|Workit's usually best to install the binary driver for nvidia01:24
Ashex|Worktarnold, select nv01:24
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Ashex|Worknosrednaekim, I got it :)01:25
nosrednaekimAshex|Work: got what?01:25
tarnoldsee first time this has come up since i installed kubuntu hence be being a bit vexed, considering ive 3 papers to write in 2 days01:25
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Ashex|Worknosrednaekim, cheese!01:26
nosrednaekimoh.. you got tarnold ok..;)01:26
tarnoldahh hah01:26
Ashex|Worktarnold, no worries, We'll get this figured out01:26
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Ashex|Workalbeit, you had bad timing in installing kubuntu when you've got mucho homework :p01:26
tarnoldcan't type either, sorry01:26
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willhow come kaffeine dont play mp3 files by default? even with the codecs installed?01:27
bordy240Anyone know why WINE would give me a segmentation fault when I try to do a winecfg?01:27
tarnoldok how do i know what my graphics card is, im at the next step of identifier for your video card...01:27
Ashex|Work!wine > bordy24001:27
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Ashex|Worktarnold, just hit enter01:27
Ashex|Worktarnold, when it comes to monitor, just accept the defaults until you get to resolutions01:27
tarnoldsolidsource: bout how do i change it to nvidea later01:28
Ashex|Workthe only options we really want to modify are driver and resolution01:28
tarnoldand how do i send messages to people01:28
SolidSourcetarnold: you change it in the xorg.conf01:28
lappytarnold let him help you with the issue at hand, your monitor01:28
willhow come kaffeine dont play mp3 files by default? even with the codecs installed?01:28
SolidSource!register > tarnold01:28
tarnoldsolidsource: as in with a text editor?01:29
Ashex|Workwill, you have to set mp3's to open in kaffeine01:29
Ashex|Worktarnold, yup01:29
Ashex|Worknano for cli, kate for gui01:29
SolidSourcetarnold: use alt+f2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"01:30
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tarnoldits asking about PCI for video card01:30
Ashex|Workhookay, I'm assuming that SolidSource has got ya covered tarnold01:30
SolidSourcetarnold: defaults01:30
Ashex|WorkI'm going to head home :)01:30
tarnoldsolidsource: should i do that now, or wait till ive done monekying around iwht the command line?01:30
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firemonkeyballzummm anyone know how to get easy ubuntu01:31
tarnoldAshex|Work: ok thank you01:31
Ashex|Worktarnold, one thing at a time01:31
firemonkeyballzits session.in file to run again01:31
lappyfiremonkey have you googled for it?01:31
tarnoldsolidsource: so just hit the defualts for pci bit?01:31
firemonkeyballzgoogle is weird01:31
lappyhave you installed it already?01:31
firemonkeyballzcant get accuate results01:31
SolidSourcetarnold: yes, finish the configure with defaults...then once back into KDE we can change to nvidia01:31
firemonkeyballzyes but it crashed at session.in01:31
firemonkeyballzafter reboot01:31
tarnoldSolidSource: ok01:31
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lappyi don't know what that means01:32
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firemonkeyballzsupose to install the applications01:32
lappydid you get into KDE?01:32
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lappyi know what easy ubuntu does...01:32
lappyok back in KDE, click on your KMenu01:32
tarnolddo i want to enable kernal framebuffer driver?01:32
lappyfind Easy Ubuntu, and run it again, if needed.01:33
tarnoldfor anyoen following allong with me im still at the command line working my way through the configuring the xserver.org01:33
willcan anyone tell me why Flash wont install via the installation box that comes up in Konqueror (Kubutu Feisty)01:33
firemonkeyballzsais everything is installed and cant run again01:34
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lappyif not needed, you're done i guess...01:34
lappyso, what is the problem?01:34
tarnoldSolidSource: do i want to enable the kernel's framebuffer driver?01:34
Morvoktarnold: wjats tthe problem?01:34
SolidSourcetarnold: defaults...once nvidia-glx driver is initiated, it won't matter01:34
lappytarnold: DEFAULTS01:34
tarnoldyes sir01:34
stdinwill: enable multiverse, and install flashplugin-nonfree01:34
tarnoldor maam...leaving it on no and moving to next prompt aye aye01:34
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lappyfiremonkey what help are you asking for?01:35
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firemonkeyballzwell at boot still sais Im using 6.0601:35
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firemonkeyballzthat or its incorrect info01:35
lappyand you want to upgrade to 6.10?01:35
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lappyok that's not an EasyUbuntu thing.  Its a Synaptic thing, or (best bet) a CDROM thing01:36
lappyRather In KDE its an Adept thing, not Synaptic01:36
willstdin: im trying to keep a minimal install, flash-nonfree installs gtk stuff, so any other way to get it? (only have 535 installed packages :) )01:36
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firemonkeyballzok... but im running rather stable01:37
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lappywill i'd say either use Automatix (maybe EasyUbuntu) and uninstall that when done with Flash, OR use Firefox to go to google video and use the automatic installer01:37
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delighthow can i find out to which package a certain file belongs ??01:37
lappyFiremonkey, if you're stable why upgrade?01:37
xpticalhi all, I have a bit of a problem.  I'm in japan and the jp.archive keeps giving me an error when I apt-get update...can anyone help?01:37
firemonkeyballzim stable after running it01:37
ForgeAusautomatix can be scary... be very careful with it01:37
firemonkeyballzit did install everything01:38
Jucatodelight: dpkg -S <file> I think01:38
lappyrunning wha?01:38
lappyeasy ubuntu?01:38
firemonkeyballzjust didnt run session.in after reboot01:38
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Jucatodelight: or you can use apt:/ in Konqueror or go to http://packages.ubuntu.com01:38
firemonkeyballzthe python app crashed at reboot01:38
ForgeAuslappy its an installer of sorts01:38
delightJucato: thnx i'll give it a shot01:38
lappyi don't know what that file is (session.in)01:38
compilerwriterIt was a beautiful day for kite flying.01:38
lappythanks ForgeAus!01:38
ForgeAusgtp program that has scripts to install proggies01:38
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu01:38
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ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe01:38
firemonkeyballzso do I have 6.101:39
lappyfiremonkey can you open session.in with a text editor and figure out what it was trying to install?01:39
stdinwill: flashplugin-nonfree shouldn't install any gtk stuff, what's it trying to install?01:40
delightJucato: wow that apt:// looks great is it that think working local ? looks like a web-page01:40
ForgeAusis easyubuntu in the automatix2 proggy list?01:40
tarnoldSolidSource: ok teh configureing in the command line finished01:40
delighthehe Offline search it says01:40
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firemonkeyballzwell techically I have the ati original drivers01:40
delight:-D realy impressed with it01:40
lappyWas it trying to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 using EasyUbuntu?  I've never tried that, but I've heard horror stories about upgrading from a stable 6.06 to 6.1001:40
SolidSourcetarnold: then you should be able to get into KDE GUI01:40
Jucatodelight: half of it is working local, the other half directs you to the online page01:40
nosrednaekimJucato: what this about apt://01:40
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firemonkeyballzlappy seems to be fine01:41
firemonkeyballzI downloaded and installed01:41
Jucatonosrednaekim: it's a kioslave in Konqueror for searching packages01:41
lappywhat is fine??01:41
ForgeAusdapper -> edgy can be problematic... I don't know anythinga bout edgy -> feisty yet01:41
firemonkeyballzjust didnt install the programs or did01:41
tarnoldwhat do you mean, ive been looking at my desktop the entire time, unless you mean oppening it up with kate?01:41
firemonkeyballzim not sure01:41
nosrednaekimJucato: sweet...is it installed by default?01:41
ForgeAusJucato did you get the lowdown on the distribution upgrade tool?01:41
Jucatoon Kubuntu? yes01:41
lappyok.  What is one of the programs that you wanted to install?01:41
JucatoForgeAus: it's still in the works...01:41
lappyok.  What is one of the programs that you wanted to install?01:42
firemonkeyballzmultimedia all checked01:42
lappywhat does that include, what is one program01:42
firemonkeyballzweb just the videos01:42
SolidSourcetarnold: umm ok...if you weren't having a graphical problem then running through that config was useless01:42
willstdin: libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common libcairo2 libatk1.0-001:42
lappyplease, name me a program!  I don't know wha EasyUbuntu does these days, my system is set01:42
firemonkeyballzand fonts  and the original ati driver01:42
firemonkeyballzwell theres easyubuntu 3.1 on their server01:43
lappytarnold what are you asking to do?01:43
stdinwill: ahh, so it does01:43
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firemonkeyballzjust didnt run it01:43
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SolidSourcetarnold: open konsole and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"    to ensure its installed and coorect01:43
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lappyEasyubuntu INSTALLS programs, name one that you CHECKED to INSTALL!01:43
tarnoldthe desktop display is larger then my laptop screen and causes me to have to scroll to do anything01:43
tarnoldok will do01:43
firemonkeyballzbut whats with the session.in at reboot01:44
nosrednaekimtarnold: my uncle had the same exact nvidia problem...01:44
lappyfiremonkey i am sorry, i am not understanding your problem01:44
lappyfiremonkey, i have no idea.  where do you see that file?01:44
stdinwill: you can install it manually, tho it won't be updated automatically01:44
tarnoldnosrednaekim: and what happened, was there a fix?01:44
SolidSourcetarnold nosrednaekim: thats a resolution problem which is solved by selecting a different monitor01:44
SolidSourcetarnold nosrednaekim: in the config01:45
lappydoes it come up when logging into KDE?  is it part of the Linux boot?  is it a file in your home directory?01:45
willyeah i think i will do that, until konqueror flash installer bug is fixed :)01:45
nosrednaekimI'm not sure, I think it was a problem with selected resolution01:45
eMaX_anyone knows how to debug knetworkmanager? It shows no wireless connections, though wlassistant does01:45
neptunepinktarnold: press ctrl-alt-numpad+ a couple of times01:45
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firemonkeyballzwell if I knew the number easyubuntu created I could run session.in but it was to freaking long01:45
lappyknew the number?01:45
firemonkeyballzeasyubuntu generates a number for session.in01:46
lappyForgeAus can you help us?01:46
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stdinwill: there are instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayer901:46
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: what exactly do you want to install with easyubuntu?01:46
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lappyfiremonkey i suppose then that you have to rerun EasyUbuntu and get the number again, if you need that but don't have it01:46
delightJucato: do you got a file /usr/lib/libstrstd.so.111 or someting similiar ? the apt-system does not know about it  and everytime i install something i get ldconfig: /usr/lib/libstrstd.so.111 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.01:46
SolidSourcetarnold: ok, if nvidia-glx is installed, then type "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" once that is open find "nv" and change to "nvidia"01:47
firemonkeyballzwell i wanna complete my install... but session.in crashed01:47
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tarnoldsolidsource neptunepink: im installing nvidia-glx atm01:47
tarnoldwill do01:47
ForgeAuslappy whats the problem exactly?01:47
Jucatodelight: have you tried going to packages.ubuntu.com?01:47
ForgeAus(I was distracted)01:47
lappyIn my experience, EasyUbuntu has programs.  You check-mark those programs and hit [Install] .  It installs stuff, and then its done.  You go to your KMenu, find what you installed, and then use it.01:47
ForgeAuslappy basically yes01:47
lappySo Rerun EasyUbuntu01:47
ForgeAusum I don't think easyubuntu quits01:48
tarnoldsolidsource: what happens once i chagne nv to nvidia?01:48
ForgeAusits a front end to some install scripts mostly01:48
bonbonthejonlappy: you shouldn't use easy ubuntu01:48
delightJucato yes and http://www.google.com/search?q=libstrstd.so gives strange results ... or better say results with strange messages01:48
lappyForgeAus, Firemonkeyballz and I are having trouble with his EasyUbuntu01:48
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ForgeAusbonbon perhaps, its safer than it used to be tho01:48
delightppl having similiar issues ... kinda strange01:48
SolidSourcetarnold: it xserver will use the nvidia-glx driver01:48
ForgeAuslappy what KIND of trouble?01:48
lappybonbon i'm not... but i also heard that i shouldn't use automatix, but i do :(01:48
firemonkeyballzI just dont know what session.in does01:49
ForgeAusautomatix can be dangerous as well... be CAREFUL with it01:49
firemonkeyballzI dont know what its realy for... but I havent seen it install firefox yet01:49
lappyForgeAus, I have NO idea!  Something with his session.in file in EasyUbuntu.  I cannot figure out what he means.01:49
ForgeAusits been known to break kubuntu installations before01:49
Jucatodelight: sorry no idea...01:49
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu01:49
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delightJucato: no problem ...01:49
delightJucato: thnx anyways ... you ain't got such a file thou right ?01:50
lappyFiremonkeyballz, probably just a temp file.  If its stored in your Home directory somewhere, Delete it and rerun your EasyUbuntu.01:50
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz:  what EXACTLY do you want to install with easyubntu? ther might be another way to do it01:50
ForgeAuslappy sorry my understanding of easyubuntu doesn't got that deep either01:50
Jucatodelight: nope01:50
tarnoldok its done01:50
tarnoldgoing into kate01:50
delightfunny *hehe* ... I'll move it and see what will happen01:50
firemonkeyballzwell all packages were downloaded and installed01:50
ForgeAusI ahvn't used a session.in file before but I do suggest reading it if theres text in the file01:50
firemonkeyballzjust kinda scratching my head why at boot i see 6.0601:50
ForgeAusit might give you some idea of whats going on01:50
SolidSourcetarnold: ok, after "nv" is changed to "nvidia" then save and exit01:51
firemonkeyballzits just after when I reboot one of easyubuntu's files called session.in wich is a python file... runs01:51
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firemonkeyballzand crashes01:51
tarnoldwhere would the nv be?01:52
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SolidSourcetarnold: there are a couple places, just have to scan through and change as you find01:52
tarnoldnvm i got it01:52
tarnoldok so its more then 1 that i have to change?01:53
aullomdoes anyone have time to help me figure out why i have audio but no picture during dvd playback?01:53
SolidSourcetarnold: there are more than 101:53
nosrednaekimSolidSource: really?01:53
SolidSourcenosrednaekim: yes01:53
nosrednaekimI only thought there was one...01:53
nosrednaekimunder "device"01:53
SolidSourcenosrednaekim: nope and if they are both not changed, there could be problems01:53
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ForgeAushmm uberyl! interesting!01:54
tarnoldi only saw nv once01:54
tarnoldill look again01:54
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nosrednaekimSolidSource: where is the other one?01:54
SolidSourcetarnold: there should be atleast 201:54
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ForgeAusI'm pretty sure theres a linux version but its kinda only in dev stages from what I got01:54
ForgeAus(I needed to install from source)01:55
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SolidSourcenosrednaekim tarnold: there are 2 "device" sections01:55
ForgeAusI wonder if you can use it as a backend to pcsx? its probably same design...01:55
tarnoldill do another search for nv then?01:55
nosrednaekimSolidSource: Why would there EVER be that?01:56
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tarnoldit only came up with the nv from nvidia01:56
nosrednaekim(although I did see it once, needless to say.. x didn't work)01:56
SolidSourcenosrednaekim: just how it is sometimes01:56
SolidSourcetarnold: ok, then save and exit01:56
SolidSourcenosrednaekim: its not a constant...sometimes there are 2 device sections and sometimes theres 1...its a toss up01:57
SolidSourcetarnold: now go into system settings or kcontrol and select "monitor & display" enter admin mode select hardware01:57
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tarnoldalright im there01:57
nosrednaekimSolidSource: only time I ever saw it was when a proprietary driver Xorg modification script ran and modified the xorg.conf01:57
SolidSourcenosrednaekim: exactly...01:58
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ForgeAusactually jucato ubotu should be updated for Automatix and EasyUbuntu, they're not exactly scripts themselves (of course in some sense all applications are at some point script but that aside) they're gui frontends to a set of scripts nowerdays...01:58
SolidSourcenosrednaekim: it all depends how you do it...if the nvidia-glx does the configure, there will be 2 and if xserver does it there will most likely be only 101:58
bobesponjawhats the keyboard short cut to switch desktop?01:59
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nosrednaekimSolidSource: ahhhh.... ok..I didn't know he had nvidia glx installed yet01:59
SolidSourcetarnold: ok in monitor and display?01:59
hak0bobesponja:CTRL+TAB i think01:59
JucatoForgeAus: I will leave that to the other more knowledgeable editors, as it's a very sensitive topic...01:59
tarnoldgah sorry for double post01:59
SolidSourcetarnold: ok in hardware, select "configure" under monitor #102:00
luckyonehello all02:00
stdinautomatix is a script, automatix2 is a gui to the script, so the bot is still right about automatix02:00
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jhutchinsForgeAus: The main point, at least for automatix, is that it breaks the system.02:00
luckyoneamarok is probably the most amazing thing in the world02:00
ForgeAusahh ic stdin02:00
bobesponjahak0: doesnt work02:00
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SolidSourcetarnold: now just select which ever monitor is closest to yours, if your make and model is not listed, select "generic" and which resolution is yours02:00
tarnold i don't see a configure option i see a moniter #1:custom 1, then Role: with a dropdown list02:01
nosrednaekimluckyone: go tell the people over at #amarok that... they'll be glad to hear ir02:01
ForgeAusbut do people still get automatix? wouldn't most get Automatix2 now instead? is automatix2 also dangerous?...02:01
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ForgeAusmaybe relay them to Automatix2 instead?02:01
SolidSourcetarnold: may need to scroll over02:01
tarnoldi didn't look over far enoguh02:01
jhutchinsForgeAus: Yes.  The problem is that they work outside the sytem, therefore they break things.02:02
ForgeAus(I wasn't aware so much that there still was an automatix (1) around)02:02
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scribzautomatix2 made my cpu go 100%02:02
scribzfan on all time02:02
tarnoldhow do i know which one mine is though?02:02
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scribzreinstall fixed it02:02
stdinForgeAus: I see your point, most do say "automatix2", if anything the bot could be updated to say "automatix/automatix2"02:02
hak0bobesponja: maybe you changed KDE behavior ,  i use kde default , maybe you have choose windows default keys or mac02:02
scribzdo stuff manually, it's eaasy02:02
SolidSourcetarnold: you don't know what monitor you have? then select "generic" and choose which resolution is your max02:02
nosrednaekimscribz: automatix is.... well anything easy isn't good..02:03
firemonkeyballzgetting gaim02:03
tarnoldoh ok02:03
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: oh yeah... GAIM rocks...02:03
firemonkeyballzkopete sucks02:03
tarnoldit said that i had to log out to restart the x server02:03
tarnoldso im doing that'02:03
scribznosrednaekim: apt-get install is better than using automatix02:03
hak0GAIM with OTR02:03
nosrednaekimscribiz: yeppers...02:04
SolidSourcefiremonkeyballz: there are not really any major differences between gaim and kopete....besides kopete looks better02:04
ForgeAusstdin I'm not sure... all I'm saying is saying it will break your system ... is bad because it doesn't always break everones system depends on what you want from it... (that being said I agree with scribz apt-get install is better... assuming you have the repositories for the software thats on the list)02:04
pepepopohi, im new to ubuntu (not to linux) and i am getting problems with samba, it seems that i have smbclient but no smbd, i am using kubuntu and almost every time i try to search for the pkg in the "add/remove" program it crash... i tried command line "apt-get install samba" but that pckg doesnt exists, it tells me that samba-client and samba-common does... any tip?02:04
scribzsources ?02:04
SolidSourcetarnold: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart xserver02:04
ForgeAusum there is a samba package02:04
ForgeAusI'm certain I installed it02:04
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:04
nosrednaekim!info samba02:05
ubotusamba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 2956 kB, installed size 7392 kB02:05
SolidSourcepepepopo: samba is not installed by default02:05
pepepopowell whats wrong with the command "apt-get install samba"?02:05
ForgeAuspepe which distro you using? kubuntu dapper? you might need edgy?02:05
scribzapt-cache search samba02:05
SolidSourcepepepopo: open konsole type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install samba smbfs"02:05
pepepopoi am using edgy02:05
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ForgeAuswell looks like its in main02:06
SolidSourcepepepopo: you have to use sudo02:06
stdinForgeAus: if it doesn't break your system now, it will when you decide yo upgrade, because it used unofficial repos and the version numbers are different. automatix2 is just as dangerous as automatix(1)02:06
ForgeAusso it should show up in adept...02:06
pepepopoSolidSource i know02:06
firemonkeyballzumm ok.. guess im still runing dapper02:06
firemonkeyballzor not02:06
ForgeAusstdin interesting...02:06
SolidSourcepepepopo: have you uncommented the backports and other repos?02:06
ForgeAusgood to know... also bad to know lol02:07
firemonkeyballzIm gonna update via cd02:07
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pepepopoSolidSource i think i did when ive first installed (its for my mom, i use gentoo), but messy me i forgot to write comments to se which where the original repositories02:08
firemonkeyballzjust gonna take a day to get02:08
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: why?02:08
firemonkeyballzcuz Im still downloading dapper packages02:08
ForgeAuswhy are version numbers so much a hassle with linux anyway?...02:08
SolidSourcepepepopo: ok lets replace your sources.list with a more up to date one02:08
SolidSource!source-o-matic > pepepopo02:08
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: run a "uname -r"02:08
stdinForgeAus: just the other day someone was asking how to install kopete (on ubuntu), because they couldn't find it in synaptic. it turned out that automatix2 had changed the sources.list and not bothered to change it back02:09
ForgeAusautomatix2 removes things or comments them out??02:09
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: and tell me the output..02:09
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: yep...still dapper02:09
pepepopoSolidSource nice page :P02:10
ForgeAusI'm not suprised it changes sources.list, but I am suprised the change wasn't simply an addition02:11
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stdinForgeAus: version numbers can be a hassle because a package can depend on a package with a specific version, so that can stop things from being updated, and automatix2 doesn't comment them out, it backsup  your sources.list, then uses it own02:11
SolidSourcefiremonkeyballz nosrednaekim: have you gone through the how to upgrade distros?02:11
ForgeAusso to fix you just reinstate the backed up one02:11
firemonkeyballzIm guessing that adept auto update overwrote everything02:12
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stdinForgeAus: yeah, if the user knows how to02:12
Whopperhow do i change the color of the bar on top of a program?02:12
stdinForgeAus: and, if they are using automatix, they probably don't02:12
ForgeAusstdin perhaps we should lobby the automatix guys to have a button to fix it for newbies?02:12
SolidSourceForgeAus: or better yet, tell them only to use official repos02:13
stdinForgeAus: I'd rather have an official ubuntu package to install the packages02:13
firemonkeyballzyey gaim is soo much better02:13
ghetekhow do i print from CLI? like i want to run "man partimage >> (print to my printer)" is there a way to do this without first >> to a plaintext file?02:13
ForgeAusstdin I heard that isn't possible..02:13
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: are you saying you want to do a fresh install?02:13
SolidSourcetarnold: you back yet?02:13
stdinghetek: lp (i think it uses cups)02:14
firemonkeyballzno need for a fresh install02:14
firemonkeyballzjust wanna upgrade from DVD02:14
ForgeAusbecause some of the stuff it installs isn't able to be official for some reason (probably legalities)02:14
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: oh ok... you can do that?02:14
firemonkeyballzI can read directions02:14
ghetekstdin: man partimage >>lp02:14
stdinForgeAus: sure it is, most things people need (like mp3, dvd, flash) are in the repos02:14
SolidSourcefiremonkeyballz: if you have a edgy DVD, then insert it and restart...the DVD will walk you throuhg02:14
stdinghetek: no, use the | (pipe), so man partimage | lp02:15
firemonkeyballzjust boot from it?02:15
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firemonkeyballzlogin and insert02:15
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: yeah I know....but I didn't know you could update from a cd02:15
stdin!away | britt|away02:15
ubotubritt|away: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines02:15
ghetekstdin: you rock so hard its not even funny02:15
SolidSourcefiremonkeyballz: boot from the DVD02:15
stdinghetek: thanks :)02:15
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stdinghetek: you can always save the output to a file too, "man partimage > filename" then just print that from a GUI02:16
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firemonkeyballzI suppose the adept updater overwrote everything02:18
firemonkeyballzin a way02:18
firemonkeyballzthats good02:18
luckyoneis there an amarok users channel?02:19
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nosrednaekimyes... #amarok02:19
luckyoneok, not just devs?02:19
stdinluckyone: #amarok , but it's probably dead02:19
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SolidSourceluckyone: #kde will probrably cover amarok02:20
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arassinewbie - how to install libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu?????02:21
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nosrednaekim"sudo apt-get install libxine-extrcodecs"02:21
arassii tried not working02:22
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stdinarassi: enable multiverse02:22
arassii did02:22
stdin!repos | arassi02:22
ubotuarassi: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:22
stdinarassi: it IS in there, make sure02:22
SolidSourcearassi: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"02:22
arassidone already and still not working02:22
ForgeAusstdin: An informative online article gives step-by-step instructions on how to use Automatix2 to install Skype, Opera, the Macromedia Flash plugin for Firefox, Google Earth, Picasa, VMware Player, Adobe Reader, DVD support, and more.02:22
SolidSourceits probably just need to be updated02:22
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ForgeAusis Opera, skype and google earth in repos?02:23
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SolidSourcearassi: ok, may need to obtain the key02:23
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ForgeAusI know VMware player and Adobe reader are02:23
ForgeAus(or can be)02:23
SolidSourceForgeAus: for 32 bit, yes02:23
arassihow do i do that?02:23
stdinForgeAus: there are commercial repos too you know02:23
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SolidSourcearassi: well the sources.list will have the instructions on how to obtain02:24
arassiwhat list...i'm using adept manager02:24
stdinForgeAus: eg, opera is on archive.canonical.com02:24
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SolidSourcearassi: close adept02:25
firemonkeyballzwell u kno one thing... I dont have clock problems anymore02:25
SolidSourcearassi: ALT-F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"02:25
ForgeAuswow ghost for linux! thats interesting!02:26
SolidSourcearassi: you can make sure that the repos are uncommented and if it doesn't have the instructions, I'll give them02:27
ForgeAusSolidSource I'm not concerned with 64-bit right now that most of that stuff is still new02:27
SolidSourceForgeAus: ?? I was just saying, cause I don't know what system you are using02:28
ForgeAushehe Solid its ok and mostly hypothetical anyhow...02:29
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arassii'm back ..got disconnected02:30
SolidSourceForgeAus: I'm using 64bit...using blackdown and nspluginwrapper...no problems yet02:31
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SolidSourcearassi: ok np, are there instructions on obtaining the keys up top of the sources.list file?02:31
ForgeAus:) nice02:31
arassisolidsource: how to get there again?02:32
SolidSourcearassi: hit ALT+F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"02:32
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SolidSourcearassi: you know what, replace everything in that file with what I supplied here: http://pastebin.sk/en/1072/02:33
arassiok hang on02:33
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SolidSourcearassi: then you will definitely have the instructions02:34
SolidSourcearassi: as well as the kubuntu repos which aren't supplied by default02:34
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arassiok then what02:35
SolidSourcearassi: where you get to so far?02:36
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eclectro I have a mail.com account and am having problems logging in? Is anyone else having problems? Do they limit the number of times you can login and check your mail?02:36
arassii copy all text to file and save02:36
SolidSourcearassi: ok, still have the webpage open?02:36
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SolidSourcearassi: the instructions at the top tells how to get the keys...run those 2 commands (in konsole) for the 4 keys within the page02:37
arassiok hang on02:38
arassii get errors02:38
SolidSourcearassi: doing?02:39
arassiarassi@arassi-desktop:~$ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY02:39
arassigpg: directory `/home/arassi/.gnupg' created02:39
arassigpg: new configuration file `/home/arassi/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created02:39
arassigpg: WARNING: options in `/home/arassi/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run02:39
arassigpg: keyring `/home/arassi/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created02:39
arassigpg: keyring `/home/arassi/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created02:39
arassigpg: "KEY" not a key ID: skipping02:39
SolidSourcearassi: one don't paste like that02:40
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SolidSourcearassi: and two...there is an alpha-numeric key for the repo....here I will give you another pastebin with the commands02:40
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SolidSourcearassi: http://pastebin.sk/en/1073/ .........just copy and paste02:42
SolidSourcearassi that will take care of all 4 keys02:42
arassiok hang on02:42
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SolidSourceand notice::: amarok 2 is going to be AWESOME02:43
arassiok i think it took...now what?02:44
SolidSourcearassi: "sudo apt-get update" and once thats done, you can install whatever you need02:44
stdinSolidSource: alarok is already awesome, v2 is going to (ama)ROCK02:44
arassiok hang on02:44
SolidSourcestdin: eh...I can see several places for 1.4.5 to be improved02:45
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stdinSolidSource: compare it to most other media players tho02:45
SolidSourcestdin: but I was looking at the screenshots of amarok2...02:45
arassiholly molly02:45
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SolidSourcearassi: ??02:46
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arassiits updating i mean...if this work you're god send ...i'm starting to dig linux already...cool02:47
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SolidSourcearassi: if the keys were imported, then you shouldn't have any problems02:47
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SolidSourcestdin: I want to see kopete improved majorly though...basically, make Kopete like trillian and support all features of all messaging systems02:48
rx_how to disable the bouncing cursor in kubuntu feisty?02:48
arassithanx again solidsource ...i'll let you know in a minute or two02:48
stdinSolidSource: yeah, kopete really needs some work02:49
vontuxhow would one go about identifying the hardware on their system (wi-fi chipsets for instance) using unix commands or gnome/kde guis?02:49
Ash-FoxI'd identify the chipset using lspci or lsusb02:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
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vontuxAsh-Fox, thx02:50
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SolidSourcestdin: I'm depressed in Trillian though ( if you have used it)...the new version is going to require server login02:51
vontuxis HP hardware prone to linux compatibility problems?02:52
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SolidSourcevontux: HP is prone to problems like windows is prone to problems02:52
shadowhywindstupid question here, Where do i go to not show the windows on other desktops on the systray?02:52
stdinrx_: kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback -> Busy Cursor = No Busy Curcor02:52
Ash-Foxvontux, HP sells some hardware for Linux usage.02:53
SolidSourceshadowhywind: right click on the window bar02:53
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SolidSourceshadowhywind: or are you asking about the desktop pager?02:54
vontuxhmmm, strange, I have a friend who has trouble w/ his hp laptop and desktop, I knew about hp printers being compatible ;however, I didn't know about their computers for linux02:54
shadowhywindlike if i have a window open/minimized on desktop 4 and i am on desktop 1 i do not want to see the name on the bottom of the screen02:54
stdinshadowhywind: right-click on the task bar, click configure panel -> Taskbar , uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"02:54
SolidSourceshadowhywind: what stdin said02:55
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shadowhywindwhere is that option within the configure panel.. I can not find it.. hehe02:55
aloneaI am having some trouble installing Mplayer. I keep getting an Error 1 for make. I see some stuff about undefined reference to __divdi302:55
shadowhywindi have done it before.. but i can't find it on this reinstall02:55
Ash-Foxvontux, I don't think that hardware was made for Linux usage some how.02:56
Ash-FoxI said 'some', not 'all'.02:56
SolidSourcealonea: are you installing through adept?02:56
vontuxAsh-Fox: ah, gotcha02:56
aloneaSolidSource: no02:56
SolidSourcealonea: why not?02:56
stdinshadowhywind: just follow my instructions, "right-click on the task bar, click configure panel -> Taskbar , uncheck "Show windows from all desktops""02:56
vontuxAsh-Fox, my friend keeps getting weird results when he does lspci, but my dell laptop provides accurate hardware info02:57
aloneaSolidSource: I tend to like compiling programs myself. Less problems. Prime example is Eclipse.02:57
Ash-Foxvontux, 'weird results' is not very descriptive.02:57
shadowhywindstdin i do not have a show windows from all desktops02:57
vontuxAsh-Fox: I'm trying to get him to send me the output now....02:57
SolidSourcealonea: right....well its in the repos...but do you have build-essential installed?02:57
shadowhywindI have sort alphanetically by application name, show only minimized windows, show application icons, show window list button.. and then drop down menus02:57
Ash-Foxvontux, helping people through a 3rd party is near impossible, you're better off getting him on here.02:58
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stdinshadowhywind: the 1st option here http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot21op3.jpg02:58
vontuxAsh-Fox: hehe, ok02:58
aloneaSolidSource: yeah, I did that first. and it does ./configure and ./configure --enable-gui fine. It just wont seem to compile. Probably missing some lib stuff for something.02:59
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shadowhywindstdin I do not have that option02:59
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SolidSourcealonea: yeah probably, check the readme and INSTALL instructions?03:00
aloneaSolidSource: Been following it, but I guess I can double check it.03:00
SolidSourcealonea: dependencies should be listed in one of them03:00
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aloneaSolidSource: Might be missing glibc. Will check.03:01
shadowhywindstdin here look http://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1dt9.png03:01
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stdinshadowhywind: hmm, that's strange03:03
Daisuke_Idoshadowhywind: are you using beryl by chance?03:03
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shadowhywindyes i am.. hehe03:04
Daisuke_Idothat's why03:04
SolidSourcestdin: you wouldn't by chance know how to install adium themes onto kopete?03:04
Daisuke_Idothe option's not there because beryl doesn't use the pager, it uses viewports03:04
shadowhywindberyl removes system options?03:04
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Daisuke_Idochances are things got changed at some point03:04
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shadowhywindso any idea you know to get rid of this issue?03:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:05
Daisuke_Idolooking now, i have the same problem03:05
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Daisuke_Idopossibly in the beryl settings03:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sis315 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:05
Daisuke_Idothey're all showing up because they're all technically on the same desktop03:05
MasterEvilAcehow do i copy all files in a folder, and put them into another folder (and overwrite duplicate files), at the command prompt?03:06
stdinSolidSource: Settings -> Configure -> Appearance -> (choose tab) -> install ?03:06
stdinshadowhywind: afaik, beryl can't do it (yet)03:06
Daisuke_Idofound it.03:06
Schuenemannanyone knows if I can get SiS drivers through an apt-get repository? debian had that option03:06
bxnpguys is it possible to resize my home dir split it up and format the one section03:06
SolidSourcestdin: no, these themes are for the contact list windows...that only allows the message window03:06
SolidSourcestdin: found a tut03:07
shadowhywindi had the window thing working a while ago before a reinstall03:07
Daisuke_Idoin the beryl settings manager, extras, window previews, taskbar, check "Taskbar Shows Only Windows of Current Viewport"... of course, it doesn't seem to work :\03:07
stdinSchuenemann: isn't xserver-xorg-video-sis the sis driver?03:08
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Schuenemannstdin, huh... I have no clue03:08
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SchuenemannI only know my video settings suck more than they should d03:08
bigdad1ehey, can someone help me setup my phone on here?03:09
Schuenemannstdin, what is that, btw?03:09
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stdinSchuenemann: Package Description: "X.Org X server -- SiS display driver, This package provides the driver for all SiS and XGI Volari cards."03:10
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bigdad1eon kubuntu*03:10
Schuenemannstdin, well, I have problems03:10
SilentDishello :)03:10
Schuenemannstdin, if I type glxinfo, for example, X crashes03:11
|Jason8|Hrm.  What would cause the X-server to take up 290 MB of RAM?  Under the regular Ubuntu install/LiveCD, it only took up about 30 MB03:11
SilentDisi have decided to 'take the plunge' for a week, and give KDE a try (gnome user mostly).  I've been poking around, and I can't seem to find a tool to allow me to easily mount/unmount disks.  what am I missing?03:12
stdinSchuenemann: not sure, but maybe the sis driver doesn't support glx, or maybe you don't have the glx module loaded in xorg.conf03:13
bigdad1ewhats a good program to use to connect to a cell phone on kubuntu?03:13
Schuenemannstdin, there is another glx command that works... some spinning things appear03:13
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Schuenemannstdin, if I zoom in too much in blender, it crashes t oo03:14
stdinSilentDis: System Settings -> Advanced -> Disk & Filesystems, or the auto mounter for removable media03:14
stdinSchuenemann: you mean glxgears works?03:14
Schuenemannyes, exacly03:15
bxnpstdin: is it possible to resize my home dir and split it up03:15
SilentDisstdin: thank you, I was looking for something to stick in the dock or the like.  got a netdisk and floppy drive.  I used a simple partition mounter tool attached to my gnome bar for it.03:15
stdinSchuenemann: I think it may be the driver then, it may not have 100% support, it could be the hardware too03:15
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Schuenemannwhat do you mean the hardware?03:16
stdinSilentDis: also look at /media or media:/ in konqueror too03:16
stdinSchuenemann: the grpahics hardware has to support the glx extentions too03:16
Schuenemannstdin, how do I check if I have that module in xorg.conf?03:16
stdinSchuenemann: look for " Load    "glx" " in " Section "Module" "03:17
Schuenemannwell, zooming in @ blender makes it crashes... even though it's a crappy video card, I don't think that should happen03:17
SolidSourcebxnp: do mean resize your partition?03:17
SilentDisstdin: yes, the folder is listed in media:/, but of course the disk is not mounted yet.  I've got my /etc/fstab all setup to allow user mounts of it.  a simpler example:  how does one go about mounting/unmounting a floppy disk?03:17
Schuenemannsorry... where is xorg.conf ?03:17
SilentDisstdin: i should specifiy, mounting from the kde interface.  I can do so from a terminal without issue :)03:18
stdinSilentDis: I don't have one, so I can't say for sure, but you should just be able to click on the dir, or there may be an entry in the right click menu03:18
stdinSchuenemann: /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:18
SolidSourceSilentDis stdin: check permissions03:18
Schuenemannyes, there is load glx03:19
SilentDisSolidSource: I am sure the permissions are fine.  I am able to mount/unmount the device without issue, as a user, from a terminal, as well as from gnome.  what am I missing in KDE to allow me to mount/unmount devices?03:19
SolidSourceSilentDis: you installed KDE on top of ubuntu?03:20
SchuenemannDevice"Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter"03:20
SilentDisSolidSource: yes.  both are on this machine.03:20
Schuenemannappearently it detected the card right03:20
Schuenemannargh... SiS sucks a lot03:21
SilentDisSolidSource: I'm trying it out.  giving it a week to see if I like it as such.  I'm normally a gnome user :)03:21
bxnpyes SolidSource, i need to resize my partition and split it up03:21
bxnpi have a whole partition for home03:21
bxnpand i want to divided it in two03:21
SolidSourceSilentDis: there are a few problems with doing that and this is one of them, don't know where to pinpoint it though03:21
SolidSourcebxnp: yes you can, though its dangerous, but if you have live CD,...use it03:22
bxnpoke i have a live cd03:22
bxnpwhat are the normal steps to do it03:22
SilentDisSolidSource: ok, i'll fiddle with it.03:22
bxnpbecause there is data on the that partition03:22
SolidSourceSilentDis: I'm thinking something doesn't get installed that kcontrol needs03:23
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bxnpits not a problem if i loose it because i i have a remote backup however it will be a lot of work to get it back SolidSource03:23
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SilentDisnext question:  konversation is all setup... but it appears to pop up a server list every time I open it, I can't close it, and it stays always on top, i have to work around it.  what setting am I missing to remove that?03:23
SolidSourcebxnp: in the LiveCD you use Gparted03:23
SolidSourceSilentDis: close button doesn't work?03:24
bxnpbut but does it resize my disk but allso my data03:24
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SilentDisSolidSource: nope03:24
bxnpi want to keep my date03:24
SolidSourcebxnp: no, data will not be resized...it will resize the partition regardless of whats there...thats why its dangerous03:24
SolidSourceSilentDis: you should be able to set it to connect automatically and not even open that window03:25
bxnpso there is no way to put that data on one side of the partition SolidSource03:25
SilentDisSolidSource: i think i found that option... brb, gonna restart to see if it'll clear that dialog.  not sure why I can't close it.03:25
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SilentDisthat's better :)03:26
SolidSourcebxnp: not that  know of...if is on the end of the drive where the new partition will be created, you will have to move it manually (some how) or lose it03:26
bxnpdamm i need partition magic03:27
SolidSourcebxnp: yeah the easiest way would be fresh install and create the partitions there....but otherwise you have to find some other way03:28
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razzorzG'day all..03:28
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razzorzhavin issues installin my qiuck cam  and thoughts?03:28
razzorzAny thoughts**03:28
SolidSourceok all cya in a bit....I need some of the stuff normal people call food03:28
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bxnpehm oke SolidSource well the problem is that partition is corrupted03:29
orange_hey ppl03:29
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bxnpso i thought i split that partition move my data to the new one03:29
bxnpand format the segment of the old one03:29
bxnpand then do it again03:29
bxnpso i have a completly formated in this case two partioned drive03:30
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razzorzanyone delt with the quick cam drivers ??03:30
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razzorzwow the help is overwhelming03:33
razzorzplease not all at once...03:33
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razzorzone at at time... my gawd folks03:34
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Number2hello I just installed kubuntu, how do i configure my nic card?03:35
razzorzanyone have a heartbeat.03:35
fignewI'm trying to get flash (32 bit) to work under konqueror (64 bit) I've read that it should be pretty much plug'n'play, but after installing the plugin, the konqueror plugin scan shows nothing03:36
fignewrazzorz: What do you need help with?03:36
razzorzwell i just lookin for the steps to install my quick cam drivers03:36
razzorzor to find out if they even work03:36
cpk1pretty sure there is no 64bit flash03:36
fignewcpk1: there is03:37
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Number2netconfig doesn't work03:37
Number2i dont know what else to do03:37
fignewNumber2: under System Settings03:37
fignewin the K meny03:37
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:38
cpk1fignew: no, there isnt 64bit flash03:38
cpk1but it looks like you dont need a 32bit chroot to get flash working either at least03:38
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fignewcpk1: yes, for firefox... not konqueror03:39
cpk1but you do need 32bit firefox, its all explained here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava03:39
razzorzwow great.. not like i have not been there b4...03:39
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Number2fignew, i went there, it shows etho, but the properties button is inactive03:40
fignew64 bit konq's nsplugin wrapper works with 32bit plugins (it's supposted to :/)03:40
teufel_whats a good torrent client to use03:40
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razzorzlets make this easy... I have the pack ( qc-usb-messenger-1.6 )  but lost trying to install it... treat me like a Child it works better.. step by step03:40
fignewNumber2: in the lower right hand corner of the window, there's gonna be a Admin button03:40
fignewyou're gonna have to type in you PW03:40
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fignewteufel_: for kubuntu, ktorrent03:41
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teufel_seems like it slows down03:41
fignewrazzorz: what kind of netcam03:41
teufel_well is there anyway to keep it from slowing down some much03:41
Number2fignew there is nowhere to type in a password03:41
razzorzFignew ...quick cam messenger03:41
lalwasalut les gars03:41
fignewteufel_: rtorrent is pretty fast, but it's only console based, and (sorta) hard to configure03:42
teufel_i mean i know about torrents and whatever but is ther some reason like the memory usage or something03:42
razzorzi think i am lost in the Term not typing in the proper comands03:42
cpk1teufel_: azureus works pretty well too03:42
fignewNumber2: you first have to click on the Administrator Mode button first03:42
fignewcpk1: if you don't mind the excessive CPU & RAM usage ;)03:43
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teufel_rtorrent ok thanks ill check it out03:43
cpk1running it in a console isnt that bad and you can set the update interval for it to be higher too03:43
fignewrazzorz: have you checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam03:44
Number2fignew OK i see where it sasy click administrator mode button, but i dont see the actual button, is it on the same window?03:44
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Number2fignew I found it my screen is not big enough03:45
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fignewlol Number2: that's happened to me before03:47
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Number2:) thanks for the help03:47
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fignewNo problem :P03:48
aloneaumm, is there a way to see a list of processes and kill them?03:49
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SolidSource alonea: CTRL+ESC03:49
Jucatoalonea: Ctrl+Esc03:49
SolidSourceJucato: I win03:49
Jucatoonly by a microsecond03:50
aloneasweet. thanks03:50
SolidSourcethats all it takes03:50
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aloneastupid adept...03:50
fignewJucato, SolidSource: never knew about that :)03:51
aloneadammit. it still says another instance is running.03:51
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SolidSourcealonea: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in konsole03:51
Jucato!adeptfix | alonea03:51
ubotualonea: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:51
aloneaalso, is apt-index-watch also adept? says I dont have permission to kill03:52
SolidSourcealonea: no its not03:52
Jucatono need to kill apt-index-watch03:52
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Jucatojust run the commands that the bot gave03:52
adydas"HTML Rendering is currently disabled " How can i turn HTML rendering on?03:52
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aloneaokies. ok, I will. and it did crash on me03:52
Number2if im running ubuntu, is there any way to get the kubuntu style kde on the same system withough dual booting03:53
SolidSourcealonea: you weren't trying to install java were you?03:53
razzorzty about that site there ( fignew ) ,,, whats the chances of gettin my codec for mp3 or dvd03:53
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:53
Jucatorazzorz: mp3 codec? very high chances03:53
Jucato!mp3 | razzorz03:53
uboturazzorz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:53
Dr_williskubuntu faq also has some info03:54
aloneaSolidSource: nope. some binutils stuff. still trying to figure out what package I am missing that it wants to compile03:54
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.03:54
SolidSourcealonea: ok...cause you can't use adept for java...until feisty is out03:55
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gekko_Aloha! :)03:55
aloneaSolidSource: I install java manually anyway.03:55
Dr_willishmm.. i recall using adept for java i thought.. :)03:55
Dr_willisbut i think i did somthing else earlier that fixed that silly eula requestor bug03:55
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Dr_willisI test out so many disrtos.. i get confused. :)03:56
SolidSourceDr_willis: if you already accepted EULA...then it shouldn't have a problem03:56
aloneaErrors were encountered while processing:03:56
alonea gclcvs03:56
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Dr_willisSolidSource,  i was thinking i some how ran the proper dpkg-reconfigure command and told it to default to kde, or somthing.. egads i am gettting old..03:56
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aloneathat thing the bot said didn't work..03:57
SolidSourceDr_willis: whats breakfast?03:57
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Dr_willisSolidSource,  thats what you go to taco-bell to eat at 5am. :)03:57
Number2how do i get kde on ubuntu03:58
SolidSourceDr_willis: ooohh so thats what thats called03:58
SilentDisNumber2: sudo aptitude install kde-desktop (at least, that's what I did)03:58
Number2is it like the kubuntu kde?03:58
Jucatoer? there is no kde-desktop package03:59
SilentDisNumber2: ahh, you're right.  kubuntu-desktop.  my mistake03:59
JucatoNumber2: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop03:59
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SolidSourceSilentDis: have you tried just editing the fstab file in kde? that might get it to mount it automatically03:59
JucatoNumber2: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde03:59
Number2will it show up in my gdm03:59
SilentDisSolidSource: it's already setup properly... is there a tool I need to use specifically?04:00
SolidSourceSilentDis: not if the fstab has it and the linked folder exists...04:00
SilentDisSolidSource: they both do, I'm still not finding a tool to allow me to mount it on demand though :(04:01
gekko_Excuse me, can anybody tell me where I can find commandline applications? Like "madplay" and things I had in other distributions? :)04:01
gekko_or at least a list of packages I can install with sudo apt-get install?04:01
SilentDisSolidSource: in /etc/fstab - /dev/ndas-00110749:0p1  /media/netdisk  vfat    defaults,user,noauto    0       004:02
SilentDisSolidSource: and the /media/netdisk folder exists.  I can issue a 'mount /media/netdisk' as user and it works.04:02
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SolidSourceSilentDis: hmm04:02
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SilentDisSolidSource: I'd have fstab mount it for me, but due to when the driver for it loads, that doesn't work.  I basically have to 'wait' till i'm in user space to mount it.04:04
SolidSourceSilentDis: is it a NAS?04:04
SilentDisSolidSource: it's a Ximeda Netdisk, NDAS is the name they've given to the tech it uses.  it's not NAS04:05
SolidSourceSilentDis: ok...04:05
SilentDisSolidSource: it is a network access disk, but it came out just as/just before they became all the rage, and thus uses a propriatary driver and such.04:06
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SolidSourceSilentDis: I have no idea04:07
aloneaok, I can't get Mplayer to compile...04:07
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SilentDisSolidSource: it's all setup on the backend, basically.  I just need a kde tool to allow me to mount/unmount it.  I could go with gdesklets i suppose, but that's a lot of extra overhead I'd like to avoid04:08
aloneaand it seems every file I try to install on adept fails, but when I go back to try again it says installed...04:08
SolidSourceSilentDis: yeah, kcontrol should take care of it04:08
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SilentDisSolidSource: checking out System Services in System Settings... I show kde-guidance as stopped.  is that the tool that does this?  also, should I switch off gdm and switch on kdm?04:09
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aloneayup. anything I install it says it fails partway through installation but says installed when I go back to it...04:11
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SolidSourceSilentDis: don't know...that service isn't running here...though it runs on boot04:11
SolidSourceSilentDis: and the kdm thing, I doubt will fix, but who knows04:12
SilentDisSolidSource: checking out service manager now...04:12
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SilentDisSolidSource: KDED Media Manager shows as running...04:13
Orange1how do i see whats taking all my cpu resources?04:15
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SolidSourceSilentDis: can't find anything like that on my system04:17
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SilentDisSolidSource: I didn't expect 'perfect' in this transition.  for now, I can hit the konsole when I need to mount it, but I will do some searching and probably pop in here from time to time to ask again on this one :)04:18
SilentDisSolidSource: overall though... as I'm poking around I see some rather nice features.  Amarok for one is lightyears better than Exaile! is, heh.04:19
SolidSourceSilentDis: yeah, if I wanted both kde and gnome, I would have to go with a different distro....but I hate gnome, so don't worry about04:19
aloneaok, how do I load the root version of konqueror? kdesu konqueror doesn't work. Get X Error: BadDevice, invalid or unitialized input device 16604:20
SolidSourcealonea: that error is fine04:21
SilentDisSolidSource: eh.  gnome isn't bad, it does have it's limiting moments though, which is why i'm exploring elsewhere.04:21
aloneaSolidSource: Ok, then how do I load it?04:21
Silveira_Netoalonea: xhost +;kdesu konqueror04:22
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SolidSourcealonea: but that is how you do it....just have to try again since kdesu/sudo gets stuck sometimes04:22
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SilentDisSolidSource: besides, i'm not one for 'holy wars'.  I can definatly see the 'best use case' for gnome, time to understand the 'best use case' for kde :)04:22
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aloneaWell, in KDE of Slackware, there was an icon that loaded it just fine. Think it was called SuperUser File System browser or something similar04:23
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SilentDisoff to play wow, take care all :)04:23
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SolidSourcealonea: yeah, but they don't do that here cause they don't want you in SU mode if you can help it04:24
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SolidSourcealonea: try ALT+F2 and then "kdesu konqueror"04:24
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aloneaSolidSource: uh huh...is there anyway I can install it?04:25
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aloneaSolidSource: nothing.04:25
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SolidSourcealonea: install what?04:26
aloneaSolidSource: the SuperUser File System thing.04:27
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aloneaok, I checked the process table and there was like 5 instances of kdesu...04:27
SolidSourcealonea: no, and that thing your talking about is merely running the kdesu command anyway04:28
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aloneaah, guess on here it tends to not want to work.04:29
SolidSourcealonea: just run "kdesu ksysguard" and kill the kdesu processes then and then try running "kdesu konqueror" again04:29
aloneaok, did that, and...there it goes.04:29
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aloneaSolidSource: Know why my adept says everything fails?04:29
SolidSourcealonea: no, cause I don't know what you have done04:30
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aloneaSolidSource: It started right after I did what the bot said to do, which gave me errors.04:30
SolidSourcealonea: you probably have broken packages04:31
SolidSourcealonea: that could cause it04:31
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smorgAnyone happen to be good at troubleshooting kppp?04:31
aloneaSolidSource: Dunno. I just want to be able to watch wmvs...didn't know it would be this bloody hard04:32
brad_ne1 know anything about airport extreme?04:32
brad_drivers for ubuntu 6.06?04:32
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bonbonthejonbrad_: what is the chipset, I think it should work04:33
SolidSourcealonea: the reason you should use adept to install things is to avoid these issues...compiling things yourself has higher likeliness of causing problems04:33
smorgAnyway... I can't seem to get it to find my modem. It will just freeze when dialing04:33
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Ashexwell that was odd04:33
ubotusmb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB04:33
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brad_not sure, its for my buddies computer...I think its a broadcom04:33
aloneaSolidSource: Well, this is the first time its ever done this. And Adept would not install Eclipse correctly when I tried it.04:34
Ashexapparently smb4k has a fairly serious bug04:34
aloneanor some other apps.04:34
bonbonthejonbrad_: either ndiswrapper or bcm43xx04:34
Aurotehi :)04:35
AuroteSkype fails to load when I start it. A pastebin is here: http://paste.uni.cc/1367004:35
AuroteCan anybody help me?04:35
SolidSourcealonea: if you are using the original sources.list from the install...a dependency may not be met04:35
geniibrad_ Hangon I'll find something on this. I dealt with it before (bradcom with bcm43xx driver)04:36
SolidSourcealonea: but some have to be installed via command such as java04:36
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AuroteI already reinstalled it...04:36
brad_are airport extremes suppose too work?04:37
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SolidSourcealonea: and eclipse installed fine through adept for me04:37
aloneaAll I know is that Eclipse under adept could not find java at all no matter how many ways I wrote where java was. I installed manually and had noo problems at all. Most stuff I install manually works better than adept. '04:37
fignewAurote: have you installed libqt3-mt ?04:37
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SolidSourcealonea: you need to update your sources.list...04:38
aloneaespecially bad when I tried to use repositories to install binary drivers for video card...04:38
geniibrad_ here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear04:38
SolidSource!source-o-matic > alonea04:38
aloneathe fetch updates thing?04:38
Aurotefignew: I dont think so I will check it04:38
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SolidSourcealonea: no, replace the sources.list....so you can have the repos needed for things04:39
Ashexbah, this is total retardation04:39
Ashexso, smb4k 0.7.5 has a serious bug where it corrupts the sudoers file04:39
smorgCan someone help me with getting a modem working with KPPP?04:39
Ashexthis was back in october04:39
Ashexa fix was released, but it was commited to edgy04:39
aloneaOk, how do I get these media programs to look in the right place for the codecs?04:39
Aurotefignew:But skype already worked for several days ...04:40
Ashexso, this bug still exists in edgy04:40
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fignewAurote: no idea, perhaps you can reinstall skype :/04:41
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Aurotefignew:I already did that and I have this libqt3-mt04:42
fignewAurote: you could also try running it with sudo04:42
Aurotefignew: it is the same result04:43
Aurotefignew: but thank you :)04:43
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razzorzhey fignew... so if i have this correct.. due to the ubuntu i installed i may be restricted for the media i can playback?..04:43
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fignewrazzorz: could you rephrase? do you mean will you be able to playback everything?04:44
SolidSourcealonea: if you use adept to install mplayer and such then they will automatically find them04:44
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razzorzno i mean i won't be able to paly back some dvd's04:44
razzorzdue to the copywrite04:45
aloneaSolidSource: I did that and still no go.04:45
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fignewermm, playing a DVD is _NOT_ against copyright04:45
aloneaand I put the binaries I got earlier is /usr/local/lib/codecs too04:45
fignewall DVDs will play under Linux assuming DeCSS is installed04:45
SolidSourcealonea: ok what did you install? libxine-extracodecs, mplayer, w32codecs, etc?04:45
razzorzfignew :i c..ty04:46
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SolidSourcealonea: but libxine, w32codecs are in /usr/lib04:47
razzorzfignew: what is the diff between "kubuntu, edubuntu,.,ect04:47
aloneaSolidSource: pretty much. Though I had to grab the codecs from Linux x86 binary, which worked fine yesterday on a different distro. AMD64 doesn't have them.04:48
fignewrazzorz: lol, Kubuntu uses KDE as the Desktop, Ubuntu uses Gnome, Edubuntu uses Gnome, but is meant for schools04:49
SolidSourcealonea: ubuntu is not like most distros....I am using AMD64...libxine-extracodecs, mplayer, etc are available....w32codecs yoiu have to manually install (the deb with --force-all)04:49
AuroteSkype fails to load when I start it. A pastebin is here: http://paste.uni.cc/1367004:50
aloneaSolidSource: Mplayer said they are supposed to go where I said and thats where XIne found them last time. I can try in /usr/lib04:50
fignewSolidSource: w32codecs with 64 bit?04:51
SolidSourcefignew: yes, it works04:51
ValuedAnyone: I'm in the process of setting up a Kubuntu partition, and I want to copy files from a prior distro (ie: kmail, etc.) on my old partition. How do I do this when they are all locked?04:52
fignewValued: locked?04:52
SolidSourcealonea: first forget about other distros....they are not like ubuntu04:52
aloneaSolidSource: Er, when I put on Mplayer with adept does it make a link in the K Menu04:52
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SolidSourcealonea: yes04:53
fignewalonea: give it a minute, it'll show up04:53
aloneaSolidSource: Well, I would be using other distros if they actually worked..gentoo would not install04:53
aloneaUmm, Movie Player/04:53
aloneaBecause thats Totem...04:53
SolidSourcealonea: if you use adept, you will have fewer problems04:53
fignewSolidSource: over apt-get?04:54
aloneaSolidSource: for the last time, I tried installing Mplayer with adept and I dont see it anywhere.04:54
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fignewalonea: <alt> F204:54
SolidSourcefignew: apt-get does essentially the samething04:54
fignewthen type in mplayer04:54
fignewSolidSource: I know ;)04:54
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aloneafignew: could not run04:55
SolidSourcealonea: its probably broken then04:55
fignewopen up the konsole04:55
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fignewand run it there, and see what error message it gives you04:55
aloneaSolidSource: most likely since adept wont install anything at all now04:55
ForgeAusgrrr broken packages and versioning... it drives me crazy!04:56
SolidSourcealonea: no, its probably due to adept looking for something and its not where it should be04:56
ForgeAusor a missing dependancy04:56
aloneaSolidSource: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a : I thought this was supposed to fix it, but I get errors when I run it. it started failing everything right after I did it04:56
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fignewalonea: what is the exact error?04:57
SolidSourcealonea: try running it again and pastebin the error04:57
test_wow this is my first time useing Ubuntu04:57
test_it's cool04:57
fignewtest_: good times :)04:57
ForgeAustest its nice uh? :)04:58
test_ya real eazy to install and run. updats are peace of cake04:58
ForgeAushehe they can be04:59
test_im bad at type comands so i like ubuntu then gentoo04:59
Skullerhey guys. if i use the LIVEDVD to install kubun and use the dvd to get the packages from (most probably they will be old versions) and i update them, will i have to download the whole package again or just the 'update' for the software?04:59
ForgeAusyeah I like gui too04:59
SolidSourceSkuller: you download whole packages04:59
SkullerSolidSource: so dvd has no advantage over cd?05:00
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aloneaSolidSource: the compile error?05:00
geniiSkuller So long as you don't clean out /var/cache/apt/archives you should do fine05:00
test_is there a way to change the gui in ubuntu with out knowing alot of shit or little05:00
SolidSourceSkuller: not really05:00
ForgeAuswait there DVD has ONE SET of packages05:00
ForgeAusthe online updates arr another SET of packages05:00
SolidSourcealonea: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and pastebin the error05:00
Skullergenii: what advantage do i have if i dont delete those files?05:00
geniiSkuller Sorry, for update, yes will d/l entire files again05:01
Skullerso is there ANY advantage of using/installing from DVD rather than CD?05:01
ForgeAusbut not like DVD-sized files05:01
ForgeAusSkuller that depends on the CD05:01
geniiSkuller: Anyways, that is where all the installation (deb) files which get installed stay after they have been installed05:02
Morvokfaster transfer?05:02
ForgeAusand what packages are on it vs the DV vs online ones05:02
fignewSkuller: yes, more packages, so If you wanted a non-standard package, you might be able to get it from the DVD instead of the internet05:02
SolidSourceSkuller: no, the DVD only really has more programs to be abl eto be used as you are in the LIVE session05:02
Valuedtest: what do you want to do to the gui?05:02
ForgeAusSolidSource, like say QCAD and Koffice and stuff?05:03
ForgeAusit doesn't actually install more packages?05:03
Skullergenii: SolidSource: thanks...i guess the dvd is nothing better to be installing the OS from05:03
ForgeAusit just has more packages pre-installed on it05:03
aloneathere something else besides pastebin? its not appearing to work..05:04
SolidSourceForgeAus: no it doesn;'t really install any more packages05:04
test_can i install windows .exe games on ubuntu?05:04
SolidSourcealonea www.pastebin.sk05:04
ForgeAusisn't it better to have them install on startup from packages on the DVD :) ? kinda like klik?05:04
SkullerSolidSource: you mean to say that all softwares that get installed after u install the OS from a DVD are the same as from a cd?05:04
Valuedtest: yes, if you use Wine. If you've got Windows, you can install it with VMWare Player or VIrtualBox.05:04
aloneaok, this one works...05:04
SolidSourceForgeAus: yes05:04
SolidSourceSkuller: yes05:05
SolidSourceForgeAus: I mean, the DVD install and the CD have the same base install05:05
aloneaok, here is the compile thing for mplayer http://pastebin.ca/39424805:05
SkullerSolidSource: so its only the 'extra' packages that we want that we can install from the dvd....or get it from the interne and also their latest versionn is it?05:05
Skullerohh...cool...they have same base install05:06
Skullerso i wasted my 1 week downloading the kubun dvd05:06
ForgeAusSolid yeah I get it... its just the live image thats different, it'd be nicer if the live image was somehow able to be built from packages rather than just the image05:06
ForgeAusSkuller basically yeah05:06
test_i dont see wine in my progame list. and i did all the addons on ubuntu05:06
ForgeAuswhen you could have got the same install from the CD...05:06
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ForgeAusbut you do have more options to use the DVD when you use it as a LiveDVD05:06
SolidSourcealonea: thats what you get from running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?05:06
aloneaSolidSource: hang on already! http://pastebin.ca/394249 there.05:07
ValuedTest: It should be there, I just installed it under Kubuntu 6.10. Well... I'm *currently* installing it.05:07
ForgeAusSolid whats different about the base install from the CD to the live CD? seems to have all the same pacakges... only difference seems to be the installer is missing...05:08
Morvokwhat is a good package to use tv-in.. (hopefully supporting ins on each of the 3 video cards)?05:08
ValuedIt was located somewhere odd, like in 'Extras' with the screensavers or something. I'm using the Adept installer.05:08
ForgeAusalso *some* packages even pre-installed its ok to copy them into a kubuntu installation but adept most likely won't know about them...05:08
aloneaSolidSource: ok, nm completely on adept. I got the error off by purging that pkg05:09
test_ok brb i will keep looking05:09
SolidSourcealonea: the package was broken from the start probably05:09
ForgeAushmmm I really need feisty I think05:10
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ForgeAusunless it breaks my edgy05:10
ForgeAusbut I'm not going to know that until I try it most likely05:10
Dr_williswait a month or so then. :)05:10
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aloneaSolidSource: Still need to figure what I am missing or why mplayer isn't compiling..05:10
SolidSourceForgeAus: just wait till its released05:10
ValuedGurus: How do I copy stuff from another partition (of another distro) when the directories are locked?05:10
ForgeAusDr Willis i'm waiting until the kubuntu distribution upgrade tool is available05:11
Dr_willisForgeAus,  heh.. im not sure that will happen soon. :)05:11
ForgeAusDr Willis then I won't updgrade soon05:11
aloneaSolidSource: and the only mplayer i see on adept is kmplayer. think thats totem05:11
Dr_willisthen again. given the disasters the last 'upgrades' have been with many people. I find a clean reinstall much safer05:11
SolidSourcealonea: kmplayer is mplayer for konqueror05:11
aloneaSolidSource: ok, then where is mplayer?05:12
SolidSourcealonea: go into adept and search for mplayer, then select details and it will show you what is required for mplayer install05:12
ForgeAus(once I have I'll get the LiveCD to go with it... I have a few friends asking for a copy but I havn't given it out because my current Live CD I think its slightly corrupt... Open Office and the power manager/kcmdisplay module are damaged/non-functional)05:12
SkullerDr_willis: am with you there...clean install is the way to go according to me no matter how much time someone spent in customising the OS05:12
aloneaSolidSource: its not showing up. only kmplayer05:12
ForgeAusI still can't get kcmdisplay working... but OOffice updates nicely functions nicely after a base install...05:12
Dr_willisand with me keeping my /home on its own hd.. that makes it that much easier05:12
SolidSourcealonea: fetch updates05:13
aloneaSolidSource: Nope. still not here05:13
SkullerDr_willis: if we dont delete the /home partition and do a clean install of feisty later on will it have any problems?05:13
aloneaSolidSource: Is it on a repo that is not on the list it comes with?05:13
SolidSourcealonea: ok, you need a new sources.list so that the right repos are available05:13
ForgeAusbut then I've added lotsa subsystems into my kubuntu that probably shouldn't b there ... like some manually copied some binaries from slackware packages... and I now have BSD's pkgsrc and a few others built into my kubuntu distro05:14
SolidSource!source-o-matic > alonea05:14
ForgeAusmind you I havn't successfully installed any BSD packages into it yet....05:14
SolidSourcealonea:  the one that is default on the system doesn't have much at all05:14
Dr_willisSkuller,   shouldent have any problems.  ive not had any.05:14
Dr_willisSkuller,  only issue ive seen is that some times the newer gnome or kde may not like the old gnome/kde settings - but thats easially fixed05:15
razzorzanyone wanna give me the skiny on a good dvd/cd burning app05:15
ForgeAustheres a few discrepancies between xfree and xorg I found too.. but mostly that was just a matter of putting symbolic links in places xfree expected them05:15
SkullerDr_willis: u mean those settings reside in /home?05:15
Valuedraxxorz: use K3B.05:16
aloneaSolidSource: where is the file that I can edit to put this in?05:16
ForgeAusdoes feisty use X11R7? or still X11R6?05:16
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test_wow Ubuntu with all the addons i could get with updats uses about 6gb05:17
Valuedanyone want to help? I've just run into a problem with Adept. I chose vmware-player, and it's stuck. <Show Details> displays a text-based popup with a EULA. How do I click the 'OK' button on it?05:17
ForgeAusreally? thats smaller than I thought!05:17
Skullertest_: hehe..i am envious you have the bandwidth to get that much05:17
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test_it's just dsl 3.0mbs05:17
SolidSourcealonea: ALT+F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"05:17
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Skullertest_: yea..only about 24 times faster than my 128kbps adsl05:18
test_make you a wifi cannon and jump on some ones05:18
razzorzvalued:  happen to have a link to kb305:18
test_the updates only download at 192kbs05:18
Dr_willisSkuller,  each user has their own settings in their home dir.. yes...05:18
SkullerDr_willis: oh then i will stick with a whole reformat....thanks :)05:19
SolidSourcealonea: you will need to follow those instructions at the top of the new list05:19
Valuedrazzorz: it's usually part of the distro. It's under 'Multimedia' under Kubuntu 6.10.05:19
Dr_willisSkuller,  why - you aint gaining mychg by formating /home05:19
razzorzon the disk i assume05:19
Dr_willisSkuller,  given that my user has a few gb+ of data files. :) i will keep home all by itself.05:19
razzorznot in the distro05:19
Valuedrazzorz: odd. you should find it in adept.05:20
SkullerDr_willis: i guess my personal preference of a 'refurnishment' backs the idea up....yea you have a diff case since u ave a lot of data....05:20
test_valued :  dont see wine any ware. maybe it's becouse i got 6.6 with updates05:20
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Valuedrazzorz: the 'Adept Installer' = 'Add/Remove Programs'05:20
razzorzValued. yes i am there05:21
SkullerDr_willis: i move all my downloaded data to ntfs volumes...so np with a clean install of /home as well05:21
razzorzand i still looking05:21
Dr_willisSkuller,  of course i also want to keep my xchat configs, and firefox settings/exetnsions/bookmarks, and so forth.05:21
razzorz Valued .:and i don't see mulitmedia05:21
Valuedtest: I'm on 6.10, so that's probably it. You can go to http://www.winehq.org and download it there.05:21
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SkullerSkuller: hmm...i think i changed my mind back again then...thnx :D05:22
Valuedrazzorz: check out http://k3b.plainblack.com/05:22
razzorzwhy don't i have  multimeda05:22
SolidSourcerazzorz: have you installed the codecs?05:23
Valuedrazzorz: dunno, i just installed kubuntu last night.05:23
razzorzgetting back to my first Issue05:23
Valuedanyone have a clue what I can do now that Adept is stuck?05:24
SolidSourceValued: what were you installing?05:24
SkullerValued: kill that process and !adeptfix and open it again?...(sorry guys if this is a stupid suggestion but thats all i know)05:24
SeSqurl<----Noob to everything linux :P05:25
ValuedIt got to vmware-player. the install program wants a confirmation to a text dialog box, but you can't access it.05:25
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SolidSourceValued: kill the program05:25
ValuedCan I run Adept from the command line?05:25
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SolidSourcevalued: then open konsole and type "sudo dpkg --configure -a"05:26
SkullerSolidSource: what does that command do?05:26
razzorzYou know i am gettin real sick of that dam shift,backspace my gawd05:26
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SolidSourceValued: then to install vmware-player type "sudo apt-get install vmware-player"05:26
Valueddpkg: status database area is locked by another process. How do I properly kill the process?05:27
aloneaSolidSource: I dont get it...it says something about a key in the file, but what file and what key? I am just looking at text on a page05:27
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SolidSourceValued: you need to kill adept so ALT+F2 and type "kdesu ksysguard"05:28
Skulleri guess the key is in sources.list?05:28
aloneayeah, I mean, cant I just copy and paste this somewhere?05:28
SolidSourcealonea: the key is in the sources.list above each set of repos05:28
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razzorzsolidsource: that was my fist quistion of the day was the codec05:28
SolidSourcerazzorz: and you installed them?05:28
SolidSourcerazzorz: or no answer?05:29
aloneaoh! ok, i see, but do I have to do that for each one over and over? With both lists thats around 1005:29
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razzorzsolidosurce: would come to think i did not05:29
aloneamore than 1005:29
SolidSourcealonea: no just need to do it once for each key....05:29
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ValuedSolidSource: Thanks, killed it, ran dpkg.05:29
SolidSource!mp3 > razzorz05:29
SolidSource!dvd > razzorz05:30
SeSqurlI can't load Kaffeine anymore, I only ran it once and it crashed.  I have never had it load since.05:30
SolidSourcealonea: theres really only 405:30
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r3factoredevening, im trying to run eclipse on kubuntu edgy amd64 but get an error saying it cant find 'qtengine' in the module path. Im not sure if this is a missing lib or an amd64 32bit compatibility problem. I do run other apps in 32bit mode so not sure.05:30
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SolidSourcer3factored: you need to install ia32 libraries05:31
razzorzsolid: ty but i think i have more issues then just knowing where they are..05:31
r3factoredSolidSource: did that already05:31
r3factoredSolidSource: im running firefox32 now05:31
teslaDoes anyone here know of a way to find out the chipset of a wificard? :)05:31
SolidSourcerazzorz: how so?05:32
razzorzwhat the hell am i looking for05:32
r3factoredSolidSource: thats why im a little perplexed - additionally i have another program that will not run saying it needs 'gtk2' libraries but ive installed almost every package available05:32
teslaI've tried lspci, but that doesn't seem to tell me anything about the chipset05:32
r3factoredtesla: lspci or modprobe -l ?05:32
teslar3factored, I'll try modprobe05:33
razzorzSolid: i guess i am a hands on doin once get it do it twice to understand it.. but since i have not did it at alli am sorta preplexed05:33
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r3factoredtesla: i think that might give it05:33
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SolidSourcerazzorz: ok, what specifically are you trying to do?05:33
razzorz solid: mind my lingo .. i hope you understoood05:33
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razzorzi want my codec installed05:34
razzorzsorry Solid:05:34
SolidSourcer3factored: yeah I've seen that qtengine error....05:34
r3factoredtesla: additionally i believe you can see it in the device manager even though it cant use it lol05:34
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teslar3factored, I that only gave me the name of the driver05:34
aloneaSolidSource: Do I need to do both lists?05:34
r3factoredSolidSource: yeah its driving me nuts - however 64 bit runs very well.05:35
draikWould anyone know where I can get help for setting up my scanner, Cannon CanoScan D646U?05:35
SolidSourcerazzorz: those things ubotu should explain how to install...but in any case...for mp3 open konsole and type: "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"05:35
r3factoredtesla im trying toremember how i did that when i battling hell with broadcomm drivers on another machine05:35
aloneaSolidSource: and are the new links supposed to show up in the manage repo screen?05:35
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SolidSourcealonea: NOOO....you replace everything in the originall list with the stuff source-o-matic gave you05:35
dsmithhi, has anyone used the paid ubuntu support?05:36
SolidSourcealonea: you need to exit adept05:36
r3factoredtesla: check dmesg also or syslog i seem to recall it listed the info in there despite not being able to use it05:36
teslar3factored lol, my friend used to have a broadcom card, and it gave him a lot of hell too :(  Currently I have an intel card, and it works just fine unless I try to connect to a wlan with WEP05:36
aloneaSolidSource: I am confused...I did the gpg thing and I reloaded adept and still no mplayer...05:36
SolidSourcerazzorz: www.ubuntuguide.org05:36
teslar3factored: okay thanks :)05:37
SolidSourcealonea: fetch updates05:37
aloneaSolidSource: did that...05:37
dsmithI am getting ready to deploy ubuntu desktops and am wondering if it is worth paying for support or not05:37
razzorzPackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:37
razzorzThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:37
razzorzis only available from another source05:37
razzorzE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidat05:37
r3factoredSolidSource: im thinking about just building gtk from source.05:37
teslatelsa: dksl05:37
SolidSourcerazzorz: don't do that05:37
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r3factoredtesla: is it a broadcomm?05:38
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razzorzya i know05:38
SolidSource!pastebin > razzorz05:38
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SolidSource!source-o-matic > razzorz05:38
teslar3factored: nope, it's Intel Wireless/PRO 220005:38
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AxlRosetesla as in the band?05:38
SolidSourcealonea: you copied what source-o-matic gave you and pasted it over everything in the /etc/apt/sources.list?05:39
r3factoredtesla: well at least its not a broadcomm that driver is biggest PITA to get working.05:39
SolidSourcealonea: and saved it05:39
teslaAxlRose: nah, the scientist :)05:39
AxlRosetelsa:  booooo :P05:39
r3factoredas in tesla coils05:39
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teslaOr like the unit of magnetism05:39
AxlRoseor like a great band :D05:39
r3factoredyeah that guy was amazing05:39
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teslar3factored: Agreed!05:40
aloneaSolidSource: no. I asked if there was a file and you said follow instructions which just says the gpg key thing.05:40
SolidSourcealonea: no I said to copy over it05:40
SolidSourcealonea: but do it again.....and then save it and close, then run those commands05:41
aloneaSolidSource: save what? and where?05:41
teslar3factored: Yeah.. I'm having no luck finding out what the chipset is.. do you think it would be possible to find out online by searching the card name?05:41
r3factoredtesla what machine?05:42
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teslahp dv40005:42
SolidSourcealonea: ok... hit ALT+F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"05:42
r3factoredok so it came with the machine?05:42
SolidSourcealonea: then copy what supplied here http://pastebin.sk/1072/ over all that is in that file05:43
edward_it there a way to clean up temp files like in  windows?05:43
r3factoredi would go to hp and look for the machine specs and see whats listed, and/or go to the intel site or search for specs for that card. they are out there you just have to find them.05:43
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r3factoredlinux aka the tinkerers dream ;)05:43
teslar3factored: I'll try that out.05:43
SeSqurlI fixed it, I guess I had more than one Kaffeine loaded, works now :)05:43
SolidSourcealonea: then run these 2 commands (just copy and paste them) : http://pastebin.sk/en/1073/05:44
r3factoredim still tinkering with my bluetooth headset to get working with skype hee hee05:44
teslar3factored: I'm thinking about investing in a new card though..05:44
SolidSourcealonea: the commands run in konsole05:44
teslathat's fun :)  I don't know much about using bluetooth05:44
r3factoredtesla: one sec05:44
teslar3factored: okay05:44
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SolidSourcealonea: got it now?05:47
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Morvokanyone know how to grab the video-in off a video card?05:48
aloneaSolidSource: I just copy pasted what was on that page to the soures.list I found and thats all I had to do..no commands or anything05:48
SolidSourcealonea: actually you do need the commands for updating and installing via apt-get in konsole05:48
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r3factoredtesla: hp dv400 notebook correct?05:49
r3factoredtesla: that a pavillion?05:50
aloneaSolidSource: Why? Mplayer showed up finally and installed, though when I try to watch video I get -vo thing05:50
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SolidSourcealonea: in order to open the full range of the repos and have no errors show up05:50
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aloneano errors have shown up so far...and on the page it says only go key thing IF you get errors. nto that you will. but to make you happy I will do it anyway05:52
SolidSourcealonea: you won't see the errors in adept05:52
SolidSourcealonea: but if your ok with it now...ok05:53
aloneaSolidSource: when I di dcommands it said nothing changed..05:53
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teslar3factored: r3factored: Yep, sorry about the delay.. :P05:53
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r3factoredtesla:  k05:53
SolidSourcealonea: but if you open konsole and run "sudo apt-get update" you will see if you need to use the commands05:54
ValuedI'm in the process of moving from PCLOS to Kubuntu. I need to transfer files from one partition to another. Kubuntu sees the directories as locked. Is there an easy way to do this?05:55
r3factoredtesla: i cant even find specs on that - how old is it?05:55
edward_anyway of deleting old temp files like done in windows?05:55
aloneaSolidSource: ok, did that, and? was I supposed to get an error or something?05:55
r3factoredtesla: its probably this: Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG05:56
r3factoredA/AB/ABG one of those05:56
Valuededward: what sort of temp files?05:56
SolidSourcealonea: you already ran the key commands, so probably not05:56
teslar3factored a couple years..  Is that a chipset?  I'm kind of confused on what I'm looking for now :(  I know the card name is Intel Wireless/Pro 2200BG.. is that also the name of the chipset?05:56
SolidSourcealonea: at least you said you ran them05:57
r3factoredahhh cool one sec - didnt know you had the model05:57
aloneaSolidSource: twice it looks like05:57
teslar3factored: I was looking for something along the lines of HERMES, or PRISM, or something like that05:57
edward_linux doesn't store temp files like done in windows?05:57
aloneaSolidSource: know anything about not initializing the -vo?05:57
SolidSourcealonea: you can run them as many times as you want...it will just keep overwritings05:57
edward_use to running system tools in windows to clean up temp files05:57
r3factoredtesla: are you looking for a driver?05:58
aloneaSolidSource: sorry I have been real short. I lack sleep and well, its just been a long day and I havent been in the best of moods.05:58
teslar3factored: I'm looking for a chipset, sadly I must admit that I'm not perfectly sure what that is..05:58
Valuededward: Linux generally creates temp files in your home directory. They start with a '.' (like '.kde'), so by default, you don't see them.05:58
r3factoredtesla: look here -> http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/05:58
teslar3factored: I'm looking into getting a new wificard, and I was told that I should look for one with the HERMES, or PRISM2 chipset.  So I was curious what my current one was. :)05:59
Valuededward: In Konqueror, go to 'View' in the menu, and turn on 'Show Hidden Files' and you'll see them.05:59
SolidSourcealonea: that could be due to codecs....but not entirely sure...cause last I saw that one, I tried playing it again and the error didn't show05:59
r3factoredtesla: also look here -> http://support.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/pro2200bg/05:59
Valuededward: Or are you referring to automatic backups?05:59
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teslar3factored: thanks!06:00
aloneaSolidSource: it did this on other distro too...probably need to install those evil binaries again for video card. no 3d accel without it.06:00
Valuededward: That is, some programs will automatically create backup files after some number of minutes have passed. These generally aren't hidden, they have a '~' in the name instead.06:01
SolidSourcer3factored: have you tried using the blackdown java and nspluginwrapper so you can just run 64bit firefox?06:01
teslar3factored: do you know if wificards with a plug for external antennae are still sold?06:01
SolidSourcealonea: what video card do you have?06:01
r3factoredSolidSource: nope i just installed it with the ia32 stuff. I have the exact instructions i saved in a file ;)06:01
r3factoredSolidSource: apt-get install ... ...06:01
Valuededward: I assume you're worried that a bunch of temporary files are floating around your hard drive?06:02
r3factoredtesla: they are for desktops i have several ;)06:02
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SolidSourcer3factored: I know, I've don't that before...but thats what I am using now and don't get the qtengine problem nor have I seen any other problems06:02
aloneaSolidSource: ATI Xpress 200. I did this last time I had kubuntu..just have to not do it from repo. it messes up biiiiiig time. I get nice pretty black screen when I come back if i do that.06:03
r3factoredSolidSource: ah you are using the apt-get or the blackdown?06:03
r3factoredSolidSource: im building gtk from source now06:03
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SolidSourcer3factored: for java I used Blackdown06:03
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SolidSourcealonea: ok then you know about !ati06:04
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SolidSource!ati > alonea06:04
r3factoredSolidSource: thats interesting - you are thinking a dependency was resolved somewhere along the tree thats not getting satisfied.06:04
SolidSourcer3factored: not exactly, the reason you are getting the qtengine error is because firefox32 can't access the 64bit qutengine06:05
aloneaSolidSource: well, good luck to me on getting this on...pray I dont get black screen. I have having to reinstal video driver again with rescue06:06
r3factoredSolidSource: but these errors only show up when running eclipse not firefox06:06
r3factoredGtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",06:06
SolidSourcer3factored: yeah, same error I was getting with firefox3206:07
Annirakever since I started my upgrade to feisty, I've had weird screen issues.  My screen resolution slooks like it's slightly off, (everything is squished horizontally) and a lot of things shake, but not everything on the screen.  The Monitor and Display item of my System Settings window is also missing.  The icon is still there, but I get an error message saying it was orphaned when I try to run it.  I'm using the ATI drivers from06:07
r3factoredSolidSource: AHA! dpkg -l shows 'un  gtk2.0-engines <none>         (no description available)06:07
SolidSourcer3factored: well good luck with compiling 32bit GTK06:07
r3factoredSolidSource: thanks i think i just found my problem06:08
SolidSourcer3factored: the IA32 library isn't complete I think06:08
r3factoreddoesnt surprise me but ill take beryl over crappy vista any day anyway!06:08
SolidSourceannirak ask in #ubuntu+106:08
AnnirakI figured the missing control panel item was kubuntu specific, but ok06:09
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SolidSourceAnnirak: its a shared channel06:09
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aloneadpkg-shlibdeps: failure: dpkg --search gave error exit status 106:12
aloneadh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 25606:12
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aloneaoh and before that it said dpkg: /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/libfglrx_gamma.so.1 not found.06:14
teslar3factored: oh, I wanted one for my laptop to increase its range :)06:14
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iarwainhi there, does anyone know how i can change my keyboard layout in Kdm?06:18
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aliveuseriarwain, what happen if define a layout as default?? doesn't it affect kdm??06:20
iarwainaliveuser, i have set it to azerty, but kdm still uses qwerty06:20
aliveuserand it is the default??06:20
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stdiniarwain: look for the "Option          "XkbLayout"" part in /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:21
ulmolavenderhow can I set up a script to be executed every 1/2 hour or so?06:21
stdin!cron | ulmolavender06:21
ubotuulmolavender: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm06:21
iarwainstdin, looking =)06:21
stdinulmolavender: you can use kcron as a gui to help with that too06:21
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iarwainstdin and aliveuser, thanks for the help :D06:22
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ulmolavenderstdin: ooh, that sounds helpful! :D06:22
aliveuseredgy doesn't display boot process, just a progress bar, how could the boot process log enabled??06:23
el_ismaHello. I want to run xfs check over my / partition. how do I do it?06:23
stdinulmolavender: it is :P cron can be confusing to get your head around the timings06:23
stdinaliveuser: remove "splash" from the boot options, in /boot/grub/menu.lst06:24
aliveusertnks stdin06:24
Jucatostdin: actually removing quiet will be enough06:24
Jucatoremoving splash will completely remove the bootsplash..06:24
stdinJucato: not if splash is on06:24
Jucatoremoving quiet will get you the scrolling text in the bootsplash06:24
stdinJucato: ahh, edgy doesn't display any messages does it06:24
Jucato(not sure if it's still true in feisty though)06:24
stdinJucato: I forgot that :P06:25
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aliveusertnks stdin and jucato06:25
mobkeyg++ doesnt have a nice gui? i have no idea whats going on here. i think i just got it to try to compile something06:26
Silveira_NetoSome time ago, I used a distro with KDE that used to be this: when I was in a folder of videos, the icon of the video was a image preview of the video, like an screenshot. When I hover the mouse over the icon a little floating windows appears and showed a preview of the window. Where is that now? I can use it in Kubuntu?06:27
el_ismaI'm running out of HD space... But I haven't been installing or downloading anything. Where's my space going?06:27
Jucatomobkey: C++ doesn't really have any GUI. it's just a language. you use a compiler to compile C++ code, like GCC. you can use an IDE to streamline your work process06:27
stdinel_isma: probably /var, use df to check, or kdirstat for a GUI06:28
el_ismaalready cleaned it06:28
el_ismaand ran apt-get clean06:28
JucatoSilveira_Neto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 browse down to VIdeo Thumbnails in Kubuntu06:29
mobkeyya ok. i'm just used to visual studio on my other computer. i'll find something. and i said g++ not c++ :P06:29
stdinel_isma: and about your xfs check, install xfsprogs, which includes fsck.xfs then you can use fsck on /06:29
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Jucatomobkey: G++ is the GCC compiler for C++06:29
ulmolavenderstdin: so will checking daily and 30 have it run every half-hour?06:29
Jucatoand Visual Studio is an IDE, not a compiler...06:29
mobkeyya. like i said, i'm used to visual studio, which is the compiler for windows, but of course its not command line06:29
Jucatomobkey: there's KDevelop for IDE in KDE06:29
el_ismastdin: but it's mounted... and xfs check won't run on mounted fs06:30
stdinulmolavender: make sure yo have all the hours selected too06:30
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mobkeythis irc client with the help channel right there is real convenient :)06:31
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stdinel_isma: it should check at boot (not sure with xfs tho), but you can run it from a live CD if not. check "man fsck.xfs" (on konsole) or man:/fsck.xfs (in konqueror) for more info on it06:32
el_isma"fsck.xfs - do nothing, successfully"06:33
el_ismathat's from the man page :D06:33
stdinhmm :P06:34
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stdinel_isma: 'man xfs_check' then06:35
el_ismastdin: I know... but it still complains about the fs being mounted06:36
stdinel_isma: try mounting it read-only then, that should get you somewhere06:36
el_ismastdin: which runlevel is it? 1?06:37
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stdinel_isma: you'll want to be in runlevel 1, but you'll have to remount the root partition as readonly manually06:37
el_ismastdin: umount and then mount ro ?06:38
dmbkiwiAnyone here using enlightenment e17?06:38
stdinel_isma: no, it would let you unmount it06:38
dmbkiwiI'm having trouble with mounting usb disks and cdroms/dvds06:38
stdinel_isma: like this: mount /dev/hda1 -o remount,ro06:38
stdinel_isma: it's the "-o remount,ro" bit you need06:39
el_ismastdin: thanks06:39
el_ismastdin: so, telinit 1 to runlevel 1, remount, xfs_check, telinit 5 to runlevel 5 to get back up? or should I reboot?06:40
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stdinel_isma: runlevel 2 is default, and you'll need to use "-o remount,rw" first06:40
el_ismastdin: oh, I thought it did that by itself. Ok, thanks!06:41
el_ismastdin: gonna try now... wish me luck :)06:41
stdinand gl :)06:42
stdinyw = you're welcome06:42
el_ismaok :)06:42
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alonea*kills ati*06:45
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dmbkiwiAnyone here using enlightenment e17?06:48
dmbkiwiI'm having trouble with mounting usb disks and cdroms/dvds06:48
aloneaguess I will have to retry installing drivers...again06:49
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el_ismastdin: I'm back... It won't let me remount, says / is busy06:49
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el_ismastdin: Well... now this is some kind of magic :S df says I've got 1.8Gb free now :| how can it be?06:50
stdinel_isma: hmm, something has locked a file, or is writing to one. you'll have to try booting in to single user mode and remount from there06:51
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stdinel_isma: and you can use du for a more detailed view, but look at the man page too, as du from / can take a long time06:52
el_ismahow do I tell lilo to boot singleuser?06:52
Axl_Roseel_isma: you have to change the innitab06:53
stdinel_isma: no you don't06:53
stdinel_isma: just choose it ftom the grub menu06:53
el_ismastdin: I've got lilo06:53
Axl_Roseel_isma: nm...aparently ubuntu doesn't believe in the inittab06:53
stdinel_isma: you would have to be difficult :P06:54
stdinAxl_Rose: ubuntu still reads it, but upstart doesn't install it by default06:54
el_ismastdin: When I installed ubuntu, the installer said I should use lilo... So I did :) -I installed years ago-06:54
stdinAxl_Rose: it's handled in /etc/event.d/ now06:54
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Axl_Rosestdin:  ahh ok06:55
Axl_Rosestdin: I'm more of a gentoo user :D06:55
stdinel_isma: does lilo allow you to edit the kernel boot options at boot time?06:55
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el_ismastdin: something about grub not liking xfs06:55
el_ismastdin: I'm not sure06:55
stdinAxl_Rose: you can still make (or copy) an inittab, and upstart will use it06:55
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el_ismastdin: I've got an inittab06:56
el_ismastdin: should I modify it?06:56
stdinel_isma: if not, you'll have to edit the lilo config file, and add "single" to the boot options06:56
stdinel_isma: I haven't got an inittab, so I'll have to look one up to tell you how to change it :P06:57
the-ermanyone know off the top of their head how to list all 'displays' on a machine?  I have a display on F9 I'd like to kill, but there's no way to execute a command as near as I can tell.06:57
Axl_Roseel_isma:  is there a line that says default runlevel in there06:57
Axl_Roseel_isma:  or something similar06:57
el_ismastdin / axl_rose : yeah, it's simple06:57
el_ismait's the first not-commented line06:57
the-ermnever mind ... ctrl-alt-backspace did it.06:58
el_isma# The default runlevel.06:58
Axl_Roseel_isma:  runlevel 1 is sungle user06:59
stdinchanging it to "id:1:initdefault:" should do it ( i think ) :P06:59
el_ismaI'm really more comfortable changing lilo.conf06:59
stdinyou can if you want07:00
stdinjust add single to the kernel options07:00
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odbyaunomehello can someonw help me07:02
odbyaunometrying to install my scanner driver and i cant get past this certain point07:02
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odbyaunomeumount /proc/bus/usb07:03
odbyaunomeumount: /proc/bus/usb: device is busy07:03
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odbyaunomeanyone awake?07:03
el_ismastdin / Axl_Rose: just for your info.: I think the lilo keyword for adding boot options to the kernel is append (so: append="single ro")07:03
costezkihello, Anyone knows where to get from the PGP Authorisation key for Ubuntu ?07:04
aloneaok, any ideas on why this isn't installing?07:04
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stdinodbyaunome: why do you need to unmount it?07:05
odbyaunomeits just what the tut says07:05
costezkihello, Anyone knows where to get from the PGP Authorisation key for Ubuntu ?07:06
odbyaunomesays to unmount then mount07:06
stdincostezki: they ate in the package ubuntu-keyring07:06
stdinodbyaunome: got a link?07:06
Axl_Rosealonea:  why r u doing buildpackage at the end...and also u should sudo first07:06
odbyaunomeyep one sec07:06
costezkithanks [stdin] 07:07
odbyaunomeim at number 4 at the bottom of the page07:07
aloneaAxl_Rose: tried with sudo. same thing07:08
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Axl_Rosealonea:  did u try without buildpackage07:08
Axl_Rosealonea:  because it's always worked for me07:08
aloneaAxl_Rose: and I am following instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI. Scroll down. repo doesnt way didnt work very well for me. This way worked lsat time. (Install from ati.com)07:08
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aloneaAxl_Rose: Guess I could try07:08
Axl_Rosealonea: I also do it from the ATI binary also...but I'm also not on 64 bit07:09
aloneaYeah, without naming buildpkg it says I am on a x86 machine07:09
Axl_Rosealonea: ahh sorry then...I won't be much help07:10
aloneafunny thing is this worked without a hitch last time I had this os07:10
stdinodbyaunome: try "sudo mount -o remount,devmode=0666 /proc/bus/usb" instead07:10
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odbyaunomestdin mount: /proc/bus/usb not mounted already, or bad option07:11
Axl_Rosealonea: did u do this: sudo aptitude install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)07:12
aloneaAxl_Rose: of course I could try installing x86 anyway and see if it works07:12
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aloneaAxl_Rose: oh, the step one thing? yeah07:13
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stdinodbyaunome: do you have any usb devices plugged in?07:13
Axl_Rosealonea: well if you look at the errors it looks like it's missing the libraries that install in step one07:14
odbyaunomei just unplugged them, i had a bluetooth adapter and camer07:14
aloneahmm, maybe something went wrong there.07:14
odbyaunomesame error07:14
Axl_Rosealonea: I specifically se the libstdc++07:14
aloneaAxl_Rose: gonna look at adept and see if its on there07:15
Axl_Rosealonea: do u have this directory:   /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/07:15
aloneaAxl_Rose: no, but I do have /usr/lib407:16
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Axl_Rosealonea: the installation script seems to be looking for /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/ though07:17
stdinodbyaunome: do you have a inbuilt card reader or something ?07:18
aloneaAxl_Rose: dunno why. I just checked the lib64 folder and all those files are in there07:18
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odbyaunomestdin no i dont, i do have a tablet thats hooked to serial, but thats it07:18
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Axl_Rosealonea: try this  sudo ln -s /usr/lib64 /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/07:19
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odbyaunomestdin maybe if i tried rebooting without any usb devices pluggd in07:20
stdinodbyaunome: a reboot would do it for you anyway07:20
aloneaAxl_Rose: wierd...says targer /usr/x86 yada yada is not a directoy. I guess i have to mkdir that one real quick07:20
stdinodbyaunome: you wouldn't have to unmount and remount it then07:20
Axl_Rosealonea: no don't do that07:21
odbyaunomestdin, so just issue the 3rd command from the tut after reboot?07:21
Axl_Rosealonea: it won't work if u make a directoy07:21
aloneaor could I just make that dir and copy lib64 to it?07:21
Axl_Rosealonea: put an / at the end of the first /usr/lib6407:21
odbyaunomemknod -m 666 /dev/usbscanner c 180 4807:21
stdinodbyaunome: yeah07:21
odbyaunomeok ill give it a try07:21
Axl_Rosealonea: so it looks like this sudo ln -s /usr/lib64/ /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/07:22
aloneatried that. same thing07:22
Axl_Roseremove the last / of the command then :P07:22
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aloneaAxl_Rose: Do you think it will be real bad if I did make that dir and copy lib64 into it?07:22
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Axl_Rosealonea:  remove the last / of the command then :P07:23
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Axl_Rosealonea:  u could always try that07:23
aloneaAxl_Rose: same. ok, will try that.07:23
Axl_Rosealonea:  i'm not even sure if this is gonna work07:23
el_ismastdin: So... I booted single user... And the bastard mounted / rw! And wouldn't let me remount, of course...07:23
aloneame neither07:23
Axl_Rosealonea:  i would prefer a symlink07:23
aloneame too..07:23
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el_ismastdin: So I booted a live cd and ran xfs_check and xfs_repair07:23
el_ismastdin: Now I've got 6Gb of crap in lost+found! :S07:24
Axl_Rosealonea:  STOP07:24
Axl_Rosealonea:  I figured it out07:24
stdinel_isma: heh, yeah I had that once07:24
Axl_Rosealonea:  sudo ln -s /usr/lib64/ /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib6407:24
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el_ismastdin: So... I should just mercylessly kill l+f?07:25
aliveuserguys, do u recommend using swiftfox instead of firefox??07:25
Axl_Rosealonea:  but first mkdir /usr/x64_64-linux-gnu/07:25
miltosmorning ppl:-] 07:25
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Axl_Rosealonea:  then sudo ln -s /usr/lib64/ /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib6407:25
miltosfor those of you that the recent upgrade of Kubuntu cut off the sound of your system, like me there is a simple solution...07:26
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stdinel_isma: well, files in lost+found are usually pieces of files that were found, so they are effectively moved to lost+found, depending what they are, it can be harmless, or fatal07:27
el_ismastdin: I think it's just scary that I've got 6Gb of l+f!07:27
miltosgo to the sound system settings and change the autodection device to Threaded Open Sound System, this will turn all sound capabilites of kubuntu in normal07:27
aliveuserhave any of u, have problems with microphone??07:28
miltosno kubuntu works like charmed here07:28
cotyrotheryI still am not able to get kubuntu to work07:28
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el_ismastdin: I feel dirty :P but anyways, if they're lost, killing them should make no difference, no?07:28
miltoscoyrothery...what's the problem?07:29
miltoscotyrothery,..what's your problem?07:29
cotyrotheryi still cant get it to reconize that i have installed kubuntu it just comes up with no operating systme07:29
stdinel_isma: shouldn't, the only reason lost+found is there, is so you can (try) to restore them07:29
aloneacotyrothery: is grub showing up?07:29
cotyrotheryhow would i know?07:30
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cotyrotherynow my f drive is reconized as a dvd drive07:30
el_ismastdin: How do you find out where all those 6Gb came from? :S07:30
aloneacotyrothery: when you start your computer does grub 1.5 show up? that is your bootloader07:30
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cotyrotheryit just says no operating system07:30
aloneacotyrothery: ok, then something didnt get installed. You install from live cd right?07:30
miltoscotyrothery, check the boot order of your hard disks from BIOS...07:31
cotyrotherywhat should it be07:31
aloneacotyrothery: umm, cdrom them hardrives right miltos?07:32
cotyrotheryi have cd rom first07:32
stdinel_isma: the hard way, looking in the files and see if you recognise it, or googe. tho I suppose you could try looking at the inode number and seeing where other inodes close to that are07:32
cotyrotherythen my hard driveds07:32
odbyaunomestdin i get this error now :Failed to open device 'brother2:bus4;dev1 Error during device I/O07:32
SolidSourceJucato: still can't see how can stand how slow konqueror loads pages....07:32
miltosit's safe to try...just try to change the order07:32
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odbyaunomestdin thats the error from xsane07:32
el_ismastdin: great :S Thanks! You've been most helpful! :D07:32
stdinel_isma: I try to be :)07:33
cotyrotheryi am just getting info for now because it is 2:33 am here07:33
aloneacotyrothery: ah. also, how did you set up your partition?07:33
cotyrotheryAnd i am mad because i want kubuntu to work07:33
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cotyrotheryi just tolled it to erase everything07:33
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cotyrotheryi dont really know what i did07:33
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miltoscotyrothery, if there a SATA hard drive, probably you have to tell BIOS to start from there...07:34
cotyrotheryI dont know what type it is07:34
stdinodbyaunome: not sure, as I don't have the hardware to test it07:34
cotyrotheryi really have no clue07:34
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june_kGhostView turns to a white screen after it loads up a pdf file (it draws, but it seems once it finishes drawing it just dissapears)07:34
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aloneacotyrothery: did you let it do the partition or did you? Generally I prefer 3 partitions. 256-512mb swap, 10-14 gigs for / , and then the rest for /home . ext3 filesystem too.07:34
odbyaunomestdin ok thanks for your help07:34
odbyaunomei was able to umount after reboot though07:35
cotyrotheryok i will try that07:35
miltoscotyrothery, do you know how to change the boot order of your hd devices under BIOS?07:35
cotyrotherybut all i did was tell it to erase everything07:35
cotyrotheryand make one parsion07:35
stdinodbyaunome: try the forums, you may have someone with the same hardware look at the post07:35
cotyrotheryyes i know how to change the boot order07:35
miltoscotyrothery, what operating system you had before installing kubuntu?07:36
aloneacotyrothery: partition. ^__^ but yes. you generally want a swap. cant think of a reason not to. if you do a / and a /home then if you ever need to reinstall your os you dont have to reformat /home07:36
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stdinjune_: try kpdf07:37
cotyrotheryso i need to do 3 partions07:37
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aloneacotyrothery: I find it best to do them myself. How many hard drives do you have? just the one?07:37
miltoscotyrothery, we actually need only 2 partitions for kubuntu, swap and /root...07:37
cotyrothery so two07:38
aloneamiltos: yes, but with 3 you can save your files and still reformat your root without loosing those.07:38
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aloneareally, its up to the user. but yes, you do need the 2 partitions at least cotyrothery07:39
aloneaI also just find it safer to have the third for most of my files07:41
cotyrotheryso i guess i will be spending day trying to get this to work again07:42
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cotyrotheryi took a break for a little while after that 12 hour try07:42
aloneacotyrothery: hmm, i got mine up yesterday in under an hour07:43
cotyrotheryit has put me under a lot of stress07:44
cotyrotheryand time07:44
aloneacotyrothery: put disk in, make partition, install.07:44
cotyrotherywow easy for you07:44
aloneacotyrothery: but really, it is indeed best to make your own partition. how big is your harddrive?07:44
cotyrotheryI did that and got nothing07:44
cotyrotherythe one i am using for kubuntu is 15 GB07:44
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aloneacotyrothery: oh ok, wow. thats like small for me. Harddrives are so cheap these days07:45
cotyrotheryi am going to get the 500 gb07:45
cotyrotheryone day07:45
aloneacotyrothery: they selling 1tb ones now07:45
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cotyrotheryhow much07:46
stdina lot07:46
aloneacotyrothery: anyway. I would make swap probably 256mb and then rest can be root ( / )07:46
aloneacotyrothery: i think it was 400-500 bucks07:46
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cotyrotherythat is cheap07:46
cotyrotheryI will have to get that07:46
cotyrotherywhen i get my new computer07:47
aloneacotyrothery: indeed. it was it circuit city i think07:47
cotyrotherythat is sick07:47
cotyrotherythat is what servers use07:47
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cotyrotheryoff topic but does anyone here have a psp07:47
aloneacotyrothery: but yeah, do partition yourself. also, if it gives you a choice do ext3 (should be default)07:48
aloneacotyrothery: yeah, I do.07:48
cotyrotheryDo you hack it?07:48
aloneacotyrothery: I am after I get a decent stick. wanna put my ps1 games on it.07:48
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cotyrotheryi only have a 1gb07:48
cotyrotheryi want the 8 gb07:48
cotyrotherybut do you hack it07:49
cotyrotheryIF so do you have 3.03 OE-C07:49
odbyaunomewhats the command for displaying my version of ubuntu07:49
aloneacotyrothery: haven't hacked it yet.  I only have a 256mb stick...no use hacking when i dont have the space to do much07:50
cotyrotherythat is plenty07:50
cotyrotheryi know people who only have 32 mb07:50
cotyrotheryand do it07:51
cotyrotherywhat firmwware do you have07:51
cotyrotheryI have 3.03 OE-C07:51
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aloneacotyrothery: i honestly dont remember. havent messed with it in a while.07:51
aloneacotyrothery: I can check real quick07:51
cotyrotherylook in the system settings07:51
cotyrotheryIf you have a downgradable psp07:52
cotyrotheryi can help you downgraded07:52
cotyrotheryconsidering you have helped me07:52
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cotyrotheryJust to let you know im all about the psp07:52
cotyrotherythat is what is on my mind 24/707:52
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aloneacotyrothery: I have System Software Version 2.8107:54
cotyrotheryyou can downgrade07:54
cotyrotheryDo you have GTA lcs07:54
ismael_stdin: More like stdout ;)07:54
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seven11how do i change the default file browser from konquerer to dophin07:55
aloneacotyrothery: umm (i share this thing with my dad...we both play it) I dont think so.07:55
cotyrotheryhow old are you07:55
cotyrotherysorry just wondering07:55
stdinismael_: just checked my logs, outta boredom and got that (and stdout wad already registered :P )07:55
aloneacotyrothery: anyways, I dont remember the name of it, but I was going to put that thing on to play ps1 games. I turn 20 in a few months. Its ok to ask. i dont mind07:55
cotyrotheryguess my age07:56
ismael_stdin: wow... you keep all the logs :S07:56
stdinismael_: konversation kepps them, I just don't delete them07:56
Skullercotyrothery: hey man..even i have a fwnd who had probs downlgrading from 2.5 firmware so he could play homebrew n psp iso's...he has a 1gb stick available but not GTAlcs07:56
cotyrotheryi can help him07:57
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aloneacotyrothery: hmmm, 16?07:57
cotyrotheryin two months i will be07:57
Skullerlol cool07:57
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Skullerm 1707:57
aloneacotyrothery: ^___^ well, I guess I am good at guessing ages.07:57
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Skullercotyrothery: you got hotmail?07:57
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Skullercotyrothery: you mind if i give it to my friend so he can contact you?07:58
cotyrotherysure go ahead07:58
cotyrotheryI help so many people it is like a hobby07:58
Skullertoo bad he jus went offline....i'll do it soon then07:58
cotyrotheryI even have my own site07:59
Skullercool link?07:59
cotyrotheryright now i am on a free host07:59
cotyrotheryuntil i get the money this summer07:59
Skulleri dont c any problem with a free host though07:59
cotyrotheryyea i like 110mb08:00
cotyrotheryi get 100 gb of bandwidth08:00
seven11how do i change the default file browser from konquerer to dophin08:00
cotyrotheryand 2 gb of disk storage08:00
stdincotyrothery: System Settings -> Default Applications08:01
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aloneacotyrothery: i am a gmail girl myself. killed my hotmail account when that came08:01
cotyrotheryyour a GIRL08:01
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cotyrotheryi guess i should have known by the name08:02
stdincotyrothery: sorry, tab completion  :P08:02
stdinseven11: System Settings -> Default Applications08:02
cotyrotheryWhat are you talking about08:02
aloneaLinux version 2.6.17-11-generic (root@king) (gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5)) #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 18:03:05 UTC 2007 (Ubuntu 2.6.17-11.35-generic)08:02
aloneadoes that mean I have a 32 bit kernel on a 64 machine and os?08:02
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seven11stdin: this was my first guess but i can't change file browser in there08:03
ismael_alonea: 2.16.17-generic is a 32 bit kernel08:03
stdinalonea: what does "uname -a" say ?08:03
aloneastdin: Linux alonea-laptop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 18:03:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux08:04
stdinseven11: file browser, ahh, that's more difficult08:04
cotyrotheryso skuller what do you think of my site08:04
aloneaok, why the hell did kubuntu install a 32 bit kernel?08:04
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ismael_alonea: how did you install kubuntu? did you use the amd64 livecd or the "normal" livecd?08:05
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aloneaismael_: 64-bit PC (AMD64) install/live DVD08:05
cotyrotheryI have been wondering what that is08:05
Skullercotyrothery: yea i saw it...awesome stuff you have done there i should say08:05
ismael_alonea: then, yes, it is weird :)08:06
cotyrotheryit is a work in progress08:06
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stdinalonea: 2.6.17-11-generic can be 64bit too08:06
aloneaismael_: @@.08:06
aloneahow can I be sure?08:06
cotyrotheryI am also programming08:06
cotyrotheryfor the psp08:06
stdinalonea: what does "file /bin/bash" say?08:06
Skullercotyrothery: lol i would love to see the 'progress' that can be done into it....already a fine site i must add for a 16 yr old08:07
cotyrotheryi am planning on adding a lot off stuff08:07
cotyrotheryover time08:07
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ismael_stdin: isn't "generic", well, generic? in the "runs on 386" sense?08:07
cotyrotheryare the main08:07
aloneastdin: bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped08:07
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stdinalonea: you have the 64 bit version then08:07
stdinismael_: it's generic as in, runs on anything08:08
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aloneastdin: o..k..then why isnt my video driver installing?08:08
ismael_stdin: how is the 64bit userland running? :S08:08
cotyrotheryis it me08:08
cotyrotheryor is everyone having problems with kubuntu08:08
stdinismael_: don't know, I use 32bit08:09
aloneaumm, i dont remember what my pastebin was.08:09
clau85my permissions to /dev/null get after every reboot changed to crw-------08:09
aloneastdin: basically its looking for files in the wrong place. i found the files it was looking for.08:09
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aloneaex. dpkg: /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib/libGL.so.1 not found.08:10
stdinalonea: http://pastebin.ca/394315 :P08:10
aloneastdin: thankyou!08:10
aloneaI had restarted computer since then08:10
cotyrotheryI hate restarting my computer08:11
aloneamost of those files are in /usr/lib64/08:11
stdinalonea: I don't know why it won't compile, why aren't you using the pre-packages version from ubuntu?08:11
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cotyrotheryskuller are you there08:11
ismael_Indeed, prepackaged surely is easier to install08:11
aloneastdin: last time I did that I got black screen..actually last 4 times. When I had kubuntu before I did it this way and I got 3d accel no problem no messing with bios or anything.08:12
ismael_alonea: which packages are you using?08:12
cotyrotherywhat is your favorite ubuntu os? Ubuntu? Kubuntu? or edubuntu?08:12
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aloneaismael_: whatever that how to says to download08:13
ismael_cotyrothery: seems like an easy question, specially since we're in #kubuntu :P08:13
aloneaismael_: if you read later on the page you can change some bios settings it will work, but my os was so slow I could not even load an app08:14
cotyrotheryyou never know08:14
cotyrotheryI like kubuntu08:14
cotyrotherybut i have only experinced it in live cd08:14
ismael_alonea: which howto?08:14
miltoshow to enable avi preview in my kubuntu?08:15
cotyrotheryUbuntu wont work on my computer08:15
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aloneaubuntus how to08:15
aloneaismael_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:15
aloneacotyrothery: uuwa? it wont or it just hasnt yet?08:15
cotyrotheryit wont08:16
aloneacotyrothery: why not?08:16
cotyrotherywell for one my computer sucks08:16
cotyrotheryit has the lowest specs08:16
cotyrothery128 mb of ram08:16
cotyrotheryand a 600 mhz processor08:16
cotyrotherynot even close to min. to use ubuntu08:16
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aloneacotyrothery: and? linux is good for running at low specs. Also, you might try gnome. should take up less ram (if you are worried)08:17
=== ismael_ 's pc won't run gnome either :P
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cotyrotheryI have not tried08:17
cotyrotheryim so lost on linux08:17
aloneaouch. why is your compy so crappy?08:17
ismael_alonea: Actually, I think KDE is easier on the resources08:17
cotyrotherybecause it is 7 years old08:18
aloneaismael_: hmm, I would not think so, but if it is, thats nice08:18
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cotyrotherykubuntu works great on my computer08:18
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cotyrotheryIn live cd08:18
aloneacotyrothery: I think you should just try again and do the partitions like I said and it should work08:18
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cotyrotheryi will do that later today08:19
innoso I managed to totally wipe the partition from my USB drive: how do I detect it again to create a partition on it?08:19
cotyrotheryright now it is 3:19 am08:19
cotyrotherypretty late08:19
aloneacotyrothery: goto sleep.08:19
cotyrotherynot a sleeper08:19
aloneacotyrothery: heh08:19
innosame time here haha08:19
aloneacotyrothery: I stayed up till 7u am last night08:19
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cotyrotheryi stay up 24 hours some times08:19
cotyrotherynever affects me08:19
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aloneame neither08:20
cotyrotheryI cant stand to sleep08:20
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cotyrotheryfeels like im wasting my life08:20
aloneawhen I need to sleep I take benedryl. knocks me right out08:21
aloneaanyway, I really want to get this oni video card working. it did it once, sure it can do it again.08:21
cotyrotheryI have to fight myself to go to sleep08:21
ismael_alonea: I can't find any information on how to install the drivers... They all say that if you install the package all runs smoothly...08:22
SolidSourcealonea: still trying to get ati driver installed?08:22
cotyrotheryinno were do you live08:22
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cotyrotheryyou said your time was the same08:22
innoKingston Ontario08:22
cotyrotherywere is that08:23
aloneaSolidSource: yeah, it not installing...lemme repaste that pastebin08:23
innoCanada baby!08:23
SolidSourcealonea: not installing or just not working?08:23
cotyrotheryi live in Georgia, usa08:23
aloneaSolidSource: not installing08:23
aloneaSolidSource: http://pastebin.ca/39431508:23
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cotyrotheryI am not to fond of georgia08:23
cotyrotheryI miss california08:23
aloneaSolidSource: (also same output if you use sudo, so that isnt it)08:24
cotyrotheryManily because im a skater08:24
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SolidSourcealonea: tried the one in the repos yet?08:24
seven11how to change default FILE browser any idea??08:24
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Skullercotyrothery: yea m here now08:24
cotyrotheryso are you going to join my site08:25
cotyrotheryyou dont have to08:25
cotyrotheryjust wondering08:25
aloneaSolidSource: Black screen again and if I do the bios thing they were talking about, the system is so slow I cant even load an app. Last timeo n Kubuntu I didnt even need to mess with the bios to get it to work.08:25
ismael_seven11: do you need to? why don't you just run it?08:25
SolidSourcealonea: have you looked at the how-to?08:26
Skullercotyrothery: well i dont own a psp...so i didnt see any reason to...but i'll make sure my friend who does does join...thnx for the offer btw n keep up the awesome work on the site08:26
SolidSourcealonea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:26
cotyrotheryim am sick of these bots08:26
aloneaSolidSource: exact page I am at dear08:26
cotyrotherythey spam my site like crazy08:26
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aloneaSolidSource: its what I have been following since the first time I managed to do it08:26
SolidSourcealonea: alright08:26
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seven11ismael_: i like dolphin better but konquere is the default so if i klick on something it will open with konquerer...08:27
SolidSourcealonea: ok, well let me see if I can find anything08:27
SolidSourcealonea: in the /ust/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64 have you got the *.so files in there?08:29
cotyrotherydoes anyone here have a site08:29
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cotyrotheryif so do you know how to get rid of bots08:29
cotyrotheryall they do is post porno08:29
aloneaSolidSource: ok, this is the screwed up thing, there is no /x86 yada yada folder. all the files are in /usr/lib64 . tried making a sym link, but it would not08:30
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aloneaSolidSource: unless you wanna try saying a different way to type it so it will make a sym link or something08:30
SolidSourcealonea: ok to make the link you need do "sudo ln -s /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/ /usr/lib64"08:31
aloneacotyrothery: umm, like your site was hacked? or just ads bugging you? Just use firefox dear (with extension adblock plus, and preferably no script too)08:31
cotyrotheryBots sign up to my site and spam08:32
cotyrotheryit is not a hack08:32
aloneaSolidSource: ooooh! i did it backwards, or the person that told me did it backwards08:32
SolidSourcealonea: don't do that command08:32
cotyrotherythey just sign up and start posting all sorts of random stuff08:32
cotyrotherythat has nothing to do with the site08:32
SolidSourcealonea: noticed a typo08:32
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aloneaSolidSource: oh, I already did it...umm, cant you just do it again, but correctly?08:33
SolidSourcealonea: yeah, testing it to make sure its correct08:33
aloneaSolidSource: Why is it wrong? it looks right08:33
innonight all, I love you!08:34
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cotyrotherysee ya08:34
cotyrotheryyou love us08:35
SolidSourcealonea: ok there is few commands we need to do08:35
aloneaSolidSource: alrighty! progress!08:35
SolidSourcealonea: making a pastebin08:35
aloneaSolidSource: that works08:35
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aloneacotyrothery: what? cant you feel the love?08:36
cotyrotheryi feel it08:37
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SolidSourcealonea: http://pastebin.sk/en/1074/08:37
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=== alonea loves everyone except for the people on the death list
ismael_KDE has magic urls, but I can't remember them! Which one was the configuration one? (like system:/ or device:/ )08:38
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cotyrotherywho is on the death list08:38
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Jucatoismael_: they are called kioslaves. what configuration one?08:38
SolidSourcecotyrothery: well you are now :))08:39
SolidSourcecotyrothery: jk08:39
ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.08:39
ismael_jucato: I know there was one which let you access all the stuff that isn't in the System Prefs. panel08:39
cotyrotheryubotu knows a lot08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knows a lot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cotyrothery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
Jucatoismael_: just press Alt+F2, type in: kcontrol08:40
SolidSourceoff note/question: why does cranberry juice ferment faster than any other juice? and why does it taste the best when it does?08:40
Jucatoismael_: but I guess you were looking for settings:/08:40
ubotuhate is a thing we don't encourage - why waste your energy08:40
ismael_Jucato: Thanks!08:40
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:40
ismael_Jucato: I never remember that one...08:40
Jucato!botabuse | cotyrothery08:40
ubotucotyrothery: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...08:40
SolidSourcealonea: after you follow those commands try installing again08:40
aloneaSolidSource: nope...it still wont install. I even cheated earlier and trid making the folder and copying the files...08:40
Jucatoismael_: noproblem08:40
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Jucatoer.. "no problem"08:40
clau85my permissions to /dev/null get after every reboot changed to crw------- (I initially set it to crw-rw-rw-). Anyone know why?08:40
SolidSourcealonea: did you reverse that before linking?08:41
cotyrotheryi love that bot08:41
aloneaSolidSource: that one that you told me too late not to do? no,  dont know how.08:41
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SolidSourcealonea: no the coping of the files08:41
aloneaalonea: oh! yes, yes.08:42
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SolidSourcealonea: ok, then whats the new output?08:42
ismael_seven11: Still around?08:42
ismael_seven11: I think I found something08:42
aloneaSolidSource: it appears to be exactly the same08:42
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SolidSourcealonea: ok08:42
SolidSourcealonea: then it is the libs that aren't installed08:43
seven11ismael_: yes08:43
aloneaSolidSource: checked earlier. they are. at least the one I checked it was.08:43
aloneacan check more08:43
ismael_seven11: Hit alt+F2, type: kcontrol08:44
aloneaSolidSource: installing any dpkg stuff now that wasnt installed before.08:44
ismael_seven11: now look for kde components (i'm translating from spanish, it might not be the same)08:44
ismael_seven11: got there?08:44
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SolidSourcealonea: yeah there are all packages for those...just checked a few and they are in repos08:44
aloneaSolidSource: One i checked earlier was libstdc++08:44
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seven11yes kcontrol is much powerfuller than system settings thanks that will do08:45
ismael_seven11: File associations08:45
aloneaSolidSource: well, the instructions get you to download them before you start, if you look at that page you will see command08:45
Jucatoismael_, seven11: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations08:45
aloneaSolidSource: ok, one of those failed...08:45
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SolidSourcealonea: ok...well looking at it that command is missing a few libs the install output is saying it wants08:46
aloneaadept..bot thingie...what was it?08:46
ismael_seven11: And... the boring part, in inode, change all that say Konqueror to Dolphin08:46
aloneaSolidSource: it kicked my adept agian08:46
SolidSourcealonea: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"08:46
Jucato!adeptfix | alonea08:46
ubotualonea: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:46
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ismael_seven11: There might be others pointing to konqueror... you'll have to look for them :S08:47
ismael_seven11: (outside inode)08:47
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aloneaok, there it goes08:47
SolidSourceyou know....have never had to do the first part of what to bot says08:47
SolidSourceonly the second08:47
aloneaSolidSource: yeah08:47
seven11ismael_: thanks that could work i will try08:47
Jucatofirecrotch: you don't want to participate in testing the dist-upgrade tool? :)08:47
cotyrotherybye eveyone08:48
cotyrotherygot to go08:48
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firecrotchJucato: I want to do a clean install to get rid of Winblows :)08:48
SolidSourcealonea: so, go through the errors (the not founds) at the end of the install output and make sure those libs are installed....there seems to be 23 of them, but yeah08:49
firecrotchNo reason to keep it, everything I need, including transfering songs to my Video iPod work in Linux now08:49
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aloneaSolidSource: yeah, and maybe because one isnt on its not seeing some of the others that are on08:50
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SolidSourcealonea: yeah08:50
teufel_hey all i am wondering about programs running in the backgroud like there is like 4 copies of ioquake3 running08:51
firecrotchHi, snowrichard08:51
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djdarkmanhy ,how can I set the boot to never be verbose?08:51
snowrichardhad a storm last night.  Got water in my monitor.  How long do you think it should take to dry out?08:51
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livingdaylightQ: is it killprocess -9 firefox?08:53
snowrichardkillall firefox would work too08:53
firecrotchsnowrichard: One of my professors got water in his monitor (protip: desk should NOT be below a bathroom)  and he said it took about 4 days08:54
ismael_kill -9 <pid>, where <pid> is a number08:54
JucatoCtrl+Esc too08:54
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ismael_snowrichard: depends on humidity, I'd guess08:54
snowrichardleaky roof and heavy rain.  Eventually we can put a new roof on this place08:54
SolidSourcesnowrichard: how long should it dry out...theres no absolute, so atleast a day or 208:55
livingdaylightkillall firefox didn't kill firefox08:55
livingdaylighti've done it before with -9  in it but i don't remember08:55
firecrotchlivingdaylight: killall firefox-bin08:55
livingdaylightfirecrotch: ah..lets seee08:55
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livingdaylightfirecrotch: thank you08:56
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dubbyahanyone here know anything about Wubi?08:56
livingdaylightwhat does the -9 command do thenthat is different?08:56
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firecrotchlivingdaylight: you're welcome :)08:56
ahmedi have a wireless network and it used wpa08:56
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firecrotchlivingdaylight: the -9 makes it work no matter what08:57
ahmedbut i don't connect network and access internet on kubuntu08:57
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ismael_ahmed: look for network-manager .08:57
SolidSourceI really hate it when I don't have milk08:57
ahmedmy network adapter is intel 2200bg08:57
ismael_ahmed: WPA connections require wpasupplicant08:58
intelikeylivingdaylight -9 sends a different signal to the kernel08:58
livingdaylightSolidSource: black coffee is better08:58
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intelikeyor actually to init08:58
ahmedismael_: i tried it but can't08:58
SolidSourcelivingdaylight: not when your trying to make hamburger helper08:58
ismael_ahmed: What is wrong with it?08:58
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livingdaylightintelikey: but i couldn't remember what the command that goes with it; i thought it was killprocess or kill but neither is quite right08:59
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intelikeyfirecrotch actually -9 wont kill "no matter what" it often fails too.08:59
livingdaylightSolidSource: hamburger helper?08:59
teufel_ok i rebooted now my resolution is screwed08:59
ismael_livingdaylight:  kill -908:59
teufel_can someone please help08:59
intelikeylivingdaylight  sudo killall -9 <app_name>08:59
ismael_intelikey: for those days, kill -15 ;)08:59
livingdaylightismael_: kill -9 firefox ?08:59
teufel_i have an ati card08:59
aloneaya know what. I am gonna try restarting computer and then trying again08:59
firecrotchintelikey: the man page implies that :\08:59
livingdaylightintelikey: ok ^^08:59
ahmedismael_: wpasupplicant is installed09:00
ismael_livingdaylight: no, kill -9 <pid>09:00
SolidSourcelivingdaylight: food made with noodle hamburger and sauce mix09:00
intelikeyfirecrotch can't help it.09:00
intelikeyismael_ yes that's a strong signal  but i've seen things that it wouldn't kill.09:00
ismael_livingdaylight: I find that htop is just great for killing stuff.09:00
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teufel_my resolution is screwed can someone help09:00
ahmedismael_: i created /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and i writed to need network information to its09:01
ismael_intelikey: uh... I don't think we've got stronger stuff :/09:01
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intelikeyismael_ nope.09:01
ismael_ahmed: I think networkmanager takes care of all that, you should actually disable wpasupplicant09:01
ahmedismael_: iwlist eth1 scanning ; it find wireless modem09:02
teufel_how do i uninstall and reinstall ati driver09:02
SolidSourceteufel_: what is it doing?09:02
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ismael_ahmed: did you disable all the ifaces?09:02
teufel_its stuck at the lowest resolution09:02
ismael_ahmed: otherwise networkmanager won't work09:02
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teufel_didnt happen til i rebooted09:02
SolidSourceteufel_: can't change it in kcontrol?09:02
ismael_ahmed: and, did you install knetworkmanager?09:02
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ismael_Lijoh: Don't Panic09:03
teufel_i think i need to reinstall my driver09:03
intelikeywhat is /etc/iftab ?09:03
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ismael_intelikey: assigns names to mac addresses09:03
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SolidSourceteufel_: maybe, but it could be that you need to reselect your monitor which can be done under kcontrol >> peripherals >> monitor & Display >> hardware09:03
ismael_intelikey: network interfaces names from the mac09:04
intelikeywhy would it be a copy of my fstab ?09:04
ismael_intelikey: :| no idea09:04
LijohI cannot install program.. my adept manager said another process using the packaging system database09:04
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intelikeyhmmm i'll rm it.09:04
teufel_ok ill try hold up09:04
ahmedi installed knetworkmanager09:04
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ismael_ahmed: /etc/network/interfaces should only have stuff relating to loopback (lo)09:05
firecrotch!adeptfix | Lijoh09:05
ubotuLijoh: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:05
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SolidSourceLijoh: also can't have adept/synaptic open if doing install in konsole09:05
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teufel_dude i dont see kontrol09:06
teufel_there is system settings and whatnot09:06
ismael_teufel_: run: kcontrol09:06
SolidSourceteufel_: is not there by default (you have to do ALT+F2 and type kcontrol)....but system settings will work09:06
teufel_got it09:07
SolidSourcealonea: so, make progress?09:08
intelikeyteufel_  "system settings" = kcontrol09:08
ismael_intelikey: no, they're not09:08
ahmedauto lo09:08
aloneaSolidSource: nada09:08
intelikeyyes they are in dapper09:08
SolidSourceintelikey: not true09:08
ahmediface lo inet loopback09:09
intelikeybull shit.09:09
ahmedauto eth009:09
ahmediface eth0 inet static09:09
aloneaSolidSource: http://pastebin.ca/394372 (person asked for this. might as well send it to you too)09:09
ismael_ahmed: make a copy of your file09:09
ahmedauto eth109:09
SolidSourceintelikey: the system settings is made by kubuntu and kcontrol is made by kde09:09
ahmediface eth1 inet static09:09
ahmedwireless-essid loj-ptt09:09
ahmedwireless-key s:03102ptt09:09
ahmedauto eth209:09
ahmediface eth2 inet dhcp09:09
ismael_ahmed: then edit it, leave only auto lo, iface lo inet loopback09:09
ismael_ahmed: Don't paste that much here!09:09
aloneaSolidSource: as far as I can tell all the lib stuff is indeed installed. at least now it sure as hell should me09:09
aloneaahmed, use http://pastebin.ca09:10
intelikeySolidSource unless it has changed from 6.6   the system settings call kcontrol for all functions.09:10
intelikeySolidSource also the top of the first submenu in system settings is the kcontrol app it's self09:10
ahmedi am sorry excuse me i am a new user09:11
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SolidSourceintelikey: nope, not unless you place it ther09:11
intelikeySolidSource if that changed in edgy then we are talking apples and oringes.09:11
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ismael_ahmed: after that, delete the wpasupplicant setup (you could purge the package and reinstall) and network manager should work09:11
intelikeySolidSource this system is default   and it's there.09:11
aloneaahmed: its ok. but generally most channels prefer pastebin or you get banned09:11
ismael_5am! I should really get to sleep... Goodnight/day to everybody09:11
SolidSourceintelikey: what are you running?09:11
ismael_ahmed: good luck with that09:12
SolidSourcealonea: and the driver still fails?09:12
teufelstill messed up09:12
intelikeyi havent changed the menu at all09:12
SolidSourceintelikey: well yes edgy 6.10 did have the implementation of the kubuntu system settings interface09:12
ahmedismael_: thanks09:12
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intelikeybut that's still a moot point.   everything in the system settings is a function of kcontrol09:13
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Lijohthank for helping09:13
SolidSourceintelikey: actuallly kcontrol itself has more configs than kubuntu system settings09:14
intelikeythan are displayed by default   yes09:14
seven11ismael_: sometimes it is much easyer than i think... just right klick on a desktop folder -> open with ... dolphin and always use this prog for this file type... just like in windows... sorry for all the trouble and thanks for helping09:14
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aloneaSolidSource: yup. same thing.09:14
aloneaSolidSource: and another...http://pastebin.ca/39437509:15
intelikeypick anything in system settings and then ps aux   and see what is actually running.09:15
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intelikeyi don't have edgy so  not sure that there hasn't been any change there.09:16
SolidSourcealonea: looks like AMD made its own repo for their driver ....maybe atleast09:16
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Mattygunsanyone here experianced with xubuntu and older computers?09:17
aloneaSolidSource: yeah, generally...sorta...basically.09:17
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aloneaSolidSource: it tends to sux0r09:17
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ahmedAre there anyone use wide screen lcd monitor that samsung 226BW on kubuntu09:18
teufelok that worked09:18
teufeli dont know why it would have changed my monitor09:18
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teufelbut thanx for the help09:18
teufelthats the second time that has happened09:19
SolidSourcealonea: ok you can try this repo listed here: http://www.albertomilone.com/latestrepo.html09:19
SolidSourcealonea: mind that it is not official09:19
unix_infidelanyone know of a way i can get firefox to DETACH  tab from a window?09:20
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aloneaSolidSource: yeeeeah, it didnt like that repo. I added it and now adept wont work. says malformed line 1 in source list.09:21
SolidSourcealonea: just means there is a character that shouldn't be ther09:22
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intelikeyprobably the trailing /09:23
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aloneaSolidSource: probably a space.09:23
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intelikeythat server seems misconfigured.09:25
intelikeycan't even access http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers09:26
SolidSourceintelikey: no its not09:26
SolidSourceintelikey:  http://www.albertomilone.com/09:26
SolidSourceyou can't access the server like that09:27
intelikeythe url in the page you posted says http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/<version>/blah09:27
SolidSourcesince /drivers is FTP09:27
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intelikeyand http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers is unaccessable to me09:27
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intelikeythen shouldn't it say ftp rather than http ?09:27
baratahi all, how to kill kasbar?09:27
SolidSourceintelikey: no09:28
baratais that kasbar still buggy?09:28
SolidSourceintelikey: trust me it works, I have it...though commented off09:28
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barataoh never mind ... I found it09:30
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SolidSourceintelikey: the reason for the http is because you are not accessing the FTP directly, you are going through another server to get to it09:32
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SolidSourceintelikey: theres just no port to the site so you can view the FTP as a webpage09:33
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intelikeyall the repos i had even looked at until that one you could access dirrectly via the url09:34
SolidSourceintelikey: they just didn't set this server up that way though...you could do the same with your own server09:34
SolidSourceanyone use Democracy TV?09:35
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SolidSourceintelikey: define properly configured...cause if it works they way they want it to, then it is properly configured for their purposes09:38
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intelikeySolidSource define "they"  and  "what 'they' want"     heh we could play at that all day.     for it to be usable as other "especally official" sources are then it's "not fully accessable" by those standards.09:40
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aloneaSolidSource: what do you think this means?09:41
aloneaLD_PRELOAD= dh_shlibdeps09:41
SolidSourceintelikey: but its not official...so it doesn't apply to those standads09:41
aloneaSolidSource: damn paste works screwy on this irc program...09:41
Skullerlol whas happ btwn SS n IL?09:41
SolidSourcealonea: where did that come from? doint what?09:42
intelikeySkuller english please ?09:42
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Skullerintelikey: hehe...ok....was just wondering what gave you both the bright idea of debating the 'officialness' of this channel09:43
SolidSourceskuller: nothing just supplied an unofficial repo that can't be accessed like the official ones and intelikey doesn't like it09:43
SkullerSolidSource: who maintains those unofficial repos and what is their benefit in doing so?09:44
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SolidSourceskuller: Alberto Milone....and I use it for a backup for video drivers just in case the official repo one doesn't work right09:45
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intelikeyno.   it's not that i "didn't like it."   it's that one complained that it wouldn't work for them and i went to investigate and found it "misconfigured" by "ubuntu" standards, and also tested that one can apt-get packages from it.   we simply discussed the details form that.    but really it seems to stem from a slightly more "hostile" debate over kcontrol eariler.09:46
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intelikeySkuller ^09:46
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SolidSourceintelikey: that wasn't hostile...just a difference between edgy and dapper09:47
aloneaSolidSource: its in the pastebin09:48
aloneaSolidSource: see, look at it again, http://pastebin.ca/394315\09:48
intelikeyhe told me to pee in a cup,  i told him to dukey in a jug,  and things went down hill from there.  :)09:48
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SolidSourcealonea: not sure...though it looks normal....well normal for the problem09:50
SkullerSolidSource: intelikey: hehe....dont let tech opinions get in the way of personal respect for the other person09:51
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intelikeyaddressing error   ?   /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/09:51
intelikeyalonea does that path exist ?09:52
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SolidSourcewe actually made that path and linked lib and lib6409:52
SolidSourcebut its still not finding the libs it needs to install09:52
aloneaintelikey: nope. all those files they are lookinging for? they are in /usr/lib6409:52
Skulleri guess as for the repo....it should be avoided as much as necessary if not according to 'ubuntu standards' but used if really necessary...i dont know anything about the repo but dont mind me stating my opinion about it09:53
SolidSourcealonea: but we did link them....09:53
aloneaintelikey: and cheating and moving them to the dir its looking for does not work nor does make sm links09:53
aloneaSolidSource: yeah, but it apparently does not care09:53
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SolidSourceSkuller: yeah, again, I only have it for backup purposes...though lately haven't had the problem I did when edgy first came out09:54
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intelikeyalonea then if  /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/  is not a link to  /usr/lib86  you might try                      sudo rm -R /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/ ;sudo ln -s /usr/lib64 /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu                                                  be careful about that command,   if the dir exists anything in it will disapere09:55
SkullerSolidSource: yea thas cool...no harm in goin a little 'out of the way' as long as its helpful n doesn harm anything/one09:55
SolidSourceintelikey: that won't work...look at the pastebin09:56
aloneano no, /usr/x86 yada yada does not exist. and we have tried all sorts of sym links.09:56
intelikeySolidSource i'm looking at it.   what do you mean ?09:56
aloneaand pretty much a whole lot of stuff...09:56
SolidSourceintelikey: this is the full directory we need /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/ with lib64 part being a link09:57
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SolidSourcealonea: so /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu doesn't exist?09:57
SolidSourcealonea: I had you make it though09:57
intelikeySolidSource ah yes sorry path too long.09:58
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aloneaSolidSource: nope. never did. yeah..you did...but its empty isn't it?09:58
SkullerSolidSource: intelikey: Just curious....are you appointed/related by/to the Ubuntu/Kubuntu community to help in this channel or are you just another person who has a LOT of experience with this OS due to personal usage?09:58
intelikeysudo ln -s /usr /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu09:58
SolidSourceintelikey: http://pastebin.sk/en/1074/09:58
aloneaI might say now its very late where I am and I am juuuuust a bit loopy09:58
intelikeythat's what you want as best i can tell09:58
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SolidSourceintelikey: no, the directly needs to exist with the links inside it...the pastebin shows the commands I had alonea use09:59
intelikeySolidSource it will09:59
intelikeythey are there in /usr   just ln /usr to /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu10:00
intelikeythen every thing in usr is in /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu10:00
SolidSourceguess that would work10:00
SolidSourceworth a try10:01
razzorzHey solidsource... sorry bout b4.... ..10:01
SolidSourcerazzorz: ?10:01
razzorzrushed out.. .. thats all10:02
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livingdaylightcan we open windows zip files in linux?10:02
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SolidSourcerazzorz: ok...don't even remember what was going on10:02
SolidSourcelivingdaylight: yes...10:02
razzorzsolidsource:could we get back on my codec issue10:02
livingdaylightSolidSource: gracias10:02
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok....10:03
austeritythis issue you speak of  hmm10:03
razzorzyou were tring to explain it to me10:03
SolidSourcerazzorz: yeah....your using 32bit right?10:04
aloneawell, I am realllllly out of it at the moment and I probably shouldn't be trying to fix this at 4 in the morning when I didnt exactly sleep the nigh before either10:04
austeritywhich codec?10:05
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok give me a sec, I'll give you a command to take care of it10:05
razzorzi can't play dvd's nor mp3's10:05
razzorzok thank you...10:05
razzorzSolidSource: if it gets me out ya hair... by all means10:05
razzorzi was using opensusie b4 and there was a app that made it all work..10:06
Skulleralonea: go get some sleep....more important than anything in the world (according to me)10:07
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razzorzSkuller: i agree.. can't work if your tired10:08
razzorzwell you could just be that much harder!!10:08
SolidSourcerazzorz: copy paste whats in quotes into konsole "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libdvdcss2"10:08
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razzorzyes you gave me this b4 Solid... and then i posted it and ya shat on me10:09
aloneaSkuller: whoops...i thought I closed this...10:09
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SolidSourcerazzorz: ??10:09
razzorzSolidSource: this is what is says ( Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another10:09
SolidSourcerazzorz: oh ok, now I remember where we were10:10
SolidSourcerazzorz: we were unlocking the rest of the repos10:10
razzorzya.. why dont i see multimedia in my add/remove10:10
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SolidSourcerazzorz: ok close out of all the program installers10:11
razzorzSolid: done10:11
SolidSourcerazzorz: hit ALT+F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"10:12
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sittisalsomebody can help me with knetworkmanager?10:13
SolidSourcerazzorz: kate open?10:13
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sittisalis there a way to use knetworkmanager with static ip simultaneusly?10:13
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razzorzsorry bout that solid10:15
razzorzthis dam shift/bkspace logs me out everytime10:15
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok...hit ALT+F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"10:16
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SolidSourcerazzorz: now copy and paste over everything in that file with the stuff provided here http://pastebin.sk/en/1072/10:16
razzorznot all this (( kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list  )10:16
SolidSourcerazzorz: yes, all of it10:17
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SolidSourcewith close quote on the end10:17
razzorzCould not open location 'file:///kdesu kate &quot;/etc/apt/sources.list'10:17
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok open konsole10:17
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SolidSourcerazzorz: type whats in quotes "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"10:18
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SolidSourcerazzorz: it open?10:19
razzorzsays kdesu:comand not found10:20
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|GaiJin|is there an easy tool to config samba with... I keep getting the logon screen when accessing my samba shares, and somehow I tend to not get access all the time10:20
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razzorzkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:20
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razzorzthats what i put10:20
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok...we'll go against whats sugested10:20
razzorzgo on10:21
SolidSourcerazzorz: change kdesu to sudo and run it again10:21
razzorzsudu kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:21
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razzorzcomand not found10:22
SolidSource|GaiJin|: you can configure through kcontrol10:22
intelikeyrazzorz don't be trying to dethrone me.   i'm the typo king around here.10:22
razzorzlmao ...10:22
SolidSourcerazzorz: ummm ok10:22
razzorzwell glad i can make a name for myself10:22
razzorzsudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list <<<< is what i put in10:23
intelikeybut sudo != sudo10:23
intelikeyand the error was ?10:23
SolidSourcerazzorz: you installed KDE on top of ubuntu did you...10:24
intelikeycopy and paste does work for single lines10:24
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SolidSourcerazzorz: hmm then that has to work10:24
razzorzformated new fresh install10:24
intelikeyand the error was ?10:25
SolidSourceintelikey: he said it "command not found"10:25
intelikeybut what command ?10:25
razzorzsudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:25
intelikeyand that returned what ?10:25
razzorzcomand not found10:26
SolidSourcerazzorz: try changing kate to kwrite...10:26
intelikeyi give up.  you are not answering my question.10:26
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SolidSourcerazzorz: copy your output from konsole to www.pastebin.sk10:27
intelikeyexactly   it could be   bash: command not found    it could be  sudo: command not found    it could even be kate; command not found10:27
Stormor try sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list10:27
intelikeywe hope it isn't the latter10:27
SolidSourcerazzorz: then give us the link for it10:27
intelikeyStorm or nano10:27
SolidSourceintelikey: more like hope its none10:27
razzorzok this could be my fauld.. Konsole is Terminal?10:27
SolidSourcewhy he hits shift+backspace is beyond me10:28
intelikeyyeah  but  kate: command not found would mean that kate was some kind of shell or script....   8*{10:28
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SolidSourceintelikey: if he isn't in the right screen could be a problem too10:29
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razzorzomfg that is anoying10:30
SolidSourcerazzorz: hit alt+F2 and type "konsole"10:30
razzorzCould not open location 'file:///konsole10:30
SolidSourcethen try "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"10:30
intelikeyrazzorz that was from a web/file browser ^  !10:31
razzorzwhat do you mean10:31
intelikeywhere are you putting these commands ?10:31
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok...exit out of ALL programs10:31
razzorzthis is the only thing open10:32
SolidSourcerazzorz: then ALT+F2 should bring up the run command10:32
razzorzcheck the run in terminal10:32
SolidSourcerazzorz: no...just type "konsole"10:33
razzorzCould not open location 'file:///konsole'10:33
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intelikeyfeisty ?10:34
razzorzYa think10:34
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mdtykeHey guys10:34
SolidSourceintelikey: no, that works the same in feisty..10:34
intelikeyi'm trying to make sense of that error message10:34
SolidSourceintelikey: yeah, just saying10:35
razzorzits not installed10:35
intelikeythat's not at all what one would expect for the run dialog10:35
razzorzi just seen it in Add/remove10:35
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok lets try this...ALT+spacebar and type "konsole" press enter10:35
razzorzjust brings up my properties for K10:36
austeritythought it wasn't installed10:36
SolidSourceintelikey: ok I'm lost10:36
razzorzya so did i10:36
intelikeywhat's he playing with ?   beryl ?10:36
SolidSourcerazzorz: is beryl installed?10:37
razzorzfunny you mentiond that10:37
intelikeyrazzorz in the kmenu open a konsole10:37
SolidSourcewell that explains that10:37
SolidSourcestupid POS beryl10:37
razzorzlol its open10:37
razzorzkonsole is10:37
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SolidSourcerazzorz: ok now run "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"10:38
intelikeyrazzorz and if it gives errors show us10:38
razzorzrazzorz@razzorz-desktop:~$ kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:38
razzorzbash: kdesu: command not found10:38
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razzorzthats all that is comes up with10:38
intelikeyok    try  sudo  in place of kdesu10:39
SolidSourcewell I know more than ever I'm going to be using beryl10:39
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SolidSourceI'm NOT10:39
razzorzsudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:39
razzorzrazzorz@razzorz-desktop:~$ sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:39
razzorzsudo: kate: command not found10:39
mdtykeDoes anyone know how I can get the Process Manager to allow me to kill stuff as root10:40
intelikeyrazzorz ok in place of kate put nano10:40
intelikeysudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list10:40
Skuller!nano | Skuller10:40
mdtykeIt's just such a hassel to have to manually kill things, especially when things like Apt mess up so often10:40
SolidSourcemdtyke: CTRL+ESC10:40
razzorzA bit list poped up10:41
Skullerintelikey: is nano installed by default on kubun?10:41
Jucatomdtyke: Alt+F2, "kdesu ksysguard". but in Adept/Apt is a special case10:41
mdtykeI cant see the process10:41
Jucato!adeptfix | mdtyke10:41
ubotumdtyke: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:41
intelikeySkuller yes it is the default text based editor10:41
mdtykeIts not that its locked10:41
JucatoSkuller: yep10:41
Jucato(re: nano)10:41
Skullerintelikey: and what about kate?10:41
razzorzGNU nano 1.3.12          File: /etc/apt/sources.list10:41
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SolidSourceSkuller: kate is installed by default too10:41
JucatoSkuller: nano is the command line editor.10:41
intelikeySkuller it should be default on all kubuntu or   kde  installs10:41
mdtykeWhat's happened is, Apt failed, and when I closed it.. well, it still stays10:42
razzorzOOk now what?10:42
Jucatomdtyke: you need to run the command ubotu gave10:42
intelikeySolidSource see razzorz    ready to edit10:42
mdtykeit didn't do anything10:42
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SolidSourceintelikey: yeah but its not as easy as copy paste now10:42
intelikeyyes it is10:43
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SolidSourcerazzorz: ok, to verify, you are using kubuntu feisty?10:43
intelikeySolidSource works the same.10:43
Jucatomdtyke: which one? the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" command didn't do anything?10:43
mdtykeI cant run that command from the Run dialog, I have to do it from Konsole.. that's a bit stupid10:43
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razzorzdeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i38610:43
SolidSourceintelikey: no CTRL+A.....but oh well10:43
mdtykeI just want to be ableto right click on a process, and hit Kill.. how hard can that be10:43
SkullerJucato: Stupid question...i did !nano | Skuller and i got the message from ubotu as a personal message...u did !adeptfix | XXX and it came in the channel...why are there different operations by |...?10:43
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok thank god10:43
DjDarkmanhy ,is there another way to configure resolutions and refresh raates besides dpkg-reconfigure and systemsettings10:43
intelikeySolidSource no but shift middle click10:44
JucatoSkuller: since you | to yourself, it just PM's the command to you10:44
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kouranwhy is it so complicated to get prboom working :(10:44
Skuller!nano | Jucato10:44
ubotuJucato: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code10:44
SkullerJucato: cool...thanks10:44
mdtykeI have another little problem10:44
mdtykeI have to do some programming in college10:44
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok, need that list to look like this one http://pastebin.sk/en/1072/      plus your beryl repos10:44
mdtykeCan anyone tell me how I can get Kate to compile10:45
DjDarkmanI want my monitor to just work on 1024@85Hz ,but I don`t know what to write in the xorg.conf10:45
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kourankate should already be in kubuntu :|10:45
kouranif not.... apt-get10:45
mdtykeNo.. how I can get kate to compile stuff for me10:45
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kouranit doesnt10:45
mdtykeI got a little command thing that will compile it, but it opens up terminal windows etc10:45
austeritykate text editor10:45
intelikeySolidSource errr iirc shift is not even needed in nano.  just highlight and hover over the nano editor and middle click      in kde you can right click and select pastes from the klipper app   but i have never see beryl so all that may be null10:45
kouranthats whats mean to happen :P10:45
mdtykeI know it doesn't... that's why Im asking kouran?10:45
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mdtykeand I'm editing text..10:45
razzorzok i am there at http://pastebin.sk/en/1072/  ..10:45
mdtykebut I want to be able to edit my source code text, and then send it to the javac10:46
kourankate isnt a java IDE10:46
mdtykeI suppose like Textpad10:46
kouranit just highlights java syntax10:46
SolidSourceintelikey: well shift+middle click didn't work on edgy10:46
kouranyou can get extensions to highlight other languages too10:46
DjDarkmanhow can I manualy add a resolution to xorg.conf?10:46
mdtykeAs I was trying to say.  I have it under External Tools so that it will compile from Kate ok, but it opens up in an external konsole10:46
Jucatomdtyke: there's an embedded Terminal (Konsole) in Kate for quick CLI stuff10:46
intelikeySolidSource did you have anything highlighted ?10:47
austeritydj be carful doing thatkind of thing10:47
mdtykeDoes anyone have any idea how I can trigger the internal/embedded terminal, as opposed to opening an external one10:47
SolidSourceintelikey: no10:47
intelikeythat's why10:47
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kouransomeone help me withy prboom! :P10:47
Jucatomdtyke: you can set a Keyboard shortcut for it. the "tab" is at the bottom of the Kate window10:47
SolidSourceintelikey:  well thats not a replace for CTRL+A10:47
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intelikeyit doesn't paste from the klipper   it pastes streight from X    the ctrl+ options are not a true copy/paste they are an app call to klipper iirc10:48
SolidSourcewhy does he keep hitting SHIFT+BACKSPACE?10:48
mdtykeWell can anyone show me a decent Java IDE then10:48
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mdtykeI want basically something like TEXTPAD, but on Linux.. I seriously cant understand how hard it's been to find something, that isn't ridiculously slow10:48
mdtykeall I want is something that will allow me to edit text, and hit a compile button10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
SolidSourcerazzorz: let me know when you are finished with adding those repos10:49
mdtykeI know Netbeans, but it's FAR too advanced10:49
intelikeySolidSource that i don't know.   it's beryl... maybe you just do that if you use beryl  ?10:49
kourannetbeans is too complicated....10:49
mdtykeI said I wanted something like Textpad10:49
kouranBlueJ :D10:49
kouranits a realy simple java IDE10:49
razzorzall of them solid?10:49
SolidSourceintelikey: idk...I tried using beryl and had to reinstall my entire system...course that was a while ago10:49
kourani love it. i wanted something like windows' jGRASP, BlueJ is just the thing.10:50
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SolidSourcerazzorz: it should look exactly like that one at the link...with the added beryl ones10:50
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:50
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SolidSourcerazzorz: hence why I didn't wnat to use nano....10:51
razzorzsolid: i see many the same titles....  http://pastebin.sk/en/1072/   on lines 8- 13 i add them all and then work my way down10:51
razzorzlol ya10:51
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SolidSourcerazzorz: you can skip those10:52
razzorzsee thats where i am lost10:52
razzorzwhat do i need what dont i need10:52
razzorz# Medibuntu multimedia packages10:52
razzorzi see that10:52
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok...should have done this first....copy the contents of that file to the pastebin10:53
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razzorzsolid: ok posted it.. RazzoR10:57
razzorzcan someone tell me how to get rid of this logout  shift/backspace  Turned off10:58
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok lets take the easy route10:58
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razzorzdid you read it10:59
SolidSourcerazzorz: yeah....10:59
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razzorzthere is a easy route?11:01
SolidSourcerazzorz: no but I'm going to make one11:01
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razzorzlol ok11:01
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok exit nano...but not konsole11:02
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intelikeyrazzorz may i ask "why do you hit shift+backspace?"11:02
acemoanyone here can help me with my bluetooth headset?11:02
razzorzbecause i am a capps freak on windows.. gettin use to not doin it11:02
razzorzso when i realize that i caps somthing in here i delete it.. and pow...11:03
razzorzyou know the rest..11:03
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok you out of nano?11:03
razzorzjust in konsole11:03
razzorzready to rock11:03
intelikeyrazzorz then it might be a good idea to leave it enabled to help break the habbit...11:04
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok, tyep "kdesu konqueror" .....(this better work)11:04
razzorzone sec...11:04
razzorzlets see if its installed11:04
SolidSourceif it doesn't work.....you need to get into konqueror as SuperUser11:04
SolidSourcekonqueror has to be installed....you can't have kde with out it11:05
intelikeynot easily anyway11:05
razzorzwell said the same as b4    comand not found11:05
razzorzkdesu konqueror11:05
c0nv1ctrazzorz: kdesu not found? or konqueror?11:06
razzorzand why is my su p/w not working11:06
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c0nv1ctrazzorz: use sudo, not su11:06
SolidSourcerazzorz: ok...well find a way...cause I don't know what beryl decided to do11:06
razzorzkdesu konqueror >> you said to type this in11:06
intelikeyrazzorz to answer your question cause you don't have a password11:06
razzorzi c11:06
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intelikeysudo -i11:07
SolidSourcerazzorz: yeah...but beryl changed commands or something, so find a way to get into konqueror as sudo11:07
intelikeythen konqeror11:07
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c0nv1ctintelikey: i dont think that will work11:07
c0nv1ctsince root isnt running X11:07
razzorz i c...11:08
intelikeyc0nv1ct worth a try tho.11:08
razzorzkdesu konqueror   Comand not found11:08
intelikeyrazzorz      sudo -i11:08
razzorzrazzorz@razzorz-desktop:~$ kdesu konqueror11:08
razzorzbash: kdesu: command not found11:08
c0nv1ctrazzorz: sounds like kdesu isnt installed11:08
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SolidSourcerazzorz: try "sudo konqueror"11:08
razzorzrazzorz@razzorz-desktop:~$ sudo konqueror11:09
razzorzsudo: konqueror: command not found11:09
intelikeyhehhe konq is not there11:09
intelikeyi.e. kde is not there11:09
c0nv1ctrazzorz: are you sure you have kubuntu installed? lol11:09
razzorzcmon now11:09
waylandbillI have a directory of sound files. I would like to 'normalize' them because some are quieter than others.11:09
intelikeythat's why kate is missing  and kdesu11:09
austerityit is ubuntu11:10
c0nv1ctyeah, no konqueror, no kdesu, no kde11:10
intelikeykde is not installed.11:10
intelikeytry   gksudo nautilus11:10
SolidSourcerazzorz: yeah try that11:10
razzorzUbuntu 6.1011:10
razzorz                - the Edgy Eft - released in October 2006.11:10
acemoanyone here can help me with my bluetooth headset?11:10
c0nv1ctrazzorz: you are in the kubuntu channel ya know :P11:10
razzorzguess what11:10
razzorzthat would prolly be why your pulling your hair out11:11
intelikeythen go to #ubuntu where you belong11:11
austerityI was on to that quite a bit ago just didn't know why we kept going back to kde11:11
razzorzMeh... Solid : dude Your top notch bro.. thanks11:11
SolidSourcecause KDE is better11:11
austerityall in good fun11:11
intelikeyausterity cause he said it was kde11:12
SolidSourcerazzorz: but yeah, thats why none of my commands will work...I don't know the gnome ones11:12
austerityoh i know where the mix up was comming from I was just powerless to stop it11:12
razzorzits ok man.. really your top shelf... thanks again.11:13
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razzorzsheesh now i got to know you all.. ..11:13
intelikeybut alt+f2 wasn't working because of beryl11:13
razzorzi need a tissue11:13
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intelikeycause it's the same in gnome and kde11:13
austerityjust add kde to the ubuntu and we will be n course11:14
razzorzdo tell11:14
SolidSourceausterity: that comes with its own problems11:14
intelikeySolidSource not in dapper11:14
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intelikeythat's what i have   ubuntu-deskopt + kde11:15
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austerityis apt part of the console in ubunto as well11:15
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austeritylet me dig a bit11:15
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intelikeyausterity yes11:15
austeritycan't he just apt-get install kde11:15
LynoureIs there a two panel limitation on Feisty? (tried on #ubuntu+1 already)11:15
intelikeyausterity indeed11:16
SolidSourceLynoure: no11:16
intelikeyLynoure shouldn't be11:16
JucatoLynoure: what do you mean?11:16
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LynoureJucato: I can add a third panel and add stuff on it but not configure it11:17
Lamingtongreetings folks11:17
LynoureJucato: it only lets me choose between Main panel and panel (the second panel)11:17
JucatoLynoure: that's a KDE bug. you have to restart kicker: dcop kicker kicker restart11:17
SolidSourceLynoure: you need to logout and back in for some reason....it happened to me11:17
JucatoSolidSource: no need to actually log out11:18
SolidSourceJucato: that command didn't work for me11:18
Jucatoit didn't restart kicker?11:18
SolidSourceno it did...just didn't solve the problem11:18
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SolidSourceJucato: also have yet to get my samba working in feisty yet11:19
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SolidSourceneither does #ubuntu+1 nor #samba11:20
LynoureJucato, SolidSource: thanks11:21
JucatoLynoure: it worked?11:22
c0nv1ctwhats new in feisty that makes samba more difficult?11:22
Jucato(w/o logging out?)11:22
intelikeyJucato sounds surprised...11:22
austeritywe lose razz thought he had it all set now11:22
SolidSourcec0nv1ct: don't know11:22
intelikey-:- SignOff razzorz: #kubuntu (Remote closed the connection)11:23
Jucatointelikey: no, I'm just looking for someone to testify on my behalf :D11:23
c0nv1cti got samba working easy, but nfs is being weird11:23
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SolidSourcec0nv1ct: some ppl have it working without a problem and others have seeral problems11:23
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SolidSourcetheres supposed to be a "v" in there somewhere11:24
Captain_RedbeardQuick question... What lib does wine use to provide itself with internet capabilities? I'm having issues with programs under wine (running on amd64) won't connect to anything11:24
c0nv1ctanyone know if the encryption used in sftp severely limits transfer rates?11:24
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c0nv1cti've never been able to get more than 50-60k/sec with sftp on a lan11:25
waylandbillsmb mounts tend to 'disappear' on my so I've put sshd servers on the windows machines I need to access and share that way. no clue, but they go after a bit. :-/11:25
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waylandbillc0nv1ct: 'severely' I can't define, but the secure algorithm will reduce traffic speed.11:26
c0nv1ctwaylandbill: 50k/sec seems pretty severe for 100mbit lan11:26
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waylandbillc0nv1ct: I was just about to say that I usually can get 700-1000.11:26
c0nv1ctusing SFTP? man, i gotta figure out what the deal is11:27
austeritycaptian that is hard to get going in 6411:27
c0nv1cti'd rather not install a regular ftp server11:27
austeritytook some tinkering for me to get wow up11:27
waylandbillc0nv1ct: if there is load on one end taking up cpu time, it'll reduce it quite a bit.11:27
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c0nv1ctnah, thats not it, the system was idle, using 2% cpu at most11:28
waylandbillc0nv1ct: nope. that aint it.11:28
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c0nv1cti tried looking in some configs, to see if there was some throttling of some sort, but found nothing11:28
SolidSourcec0nv1ct: how about telling the mouse in the router to get back to work?11:29
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c0nv1ctSolidSource: no router besides my internet gateway :\11:29
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waylandbillc0nv1ct: there's no throttling unless you are running with 'trickle' or something like that.11:29
carl__Quick question... What lib does wine use to provide itself with internet capabilities? I'm having issues with programs under wine (running on amd64) won't connect to anything11:30
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SolidSourcec0nv1ct: oh so the mouse is dead....lol11:30
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austeritycap_red you start wine up from scratch?11:30
waylandbillcarl__: ws2_32.lib I imagine.11:30
SkullerSolidSource: Just curious....are you appointed/related by/to the Ubuntu/Kubuntu community to help in this channel or are you just another person who has a LOT of experience with this OS due to personal usage or other reasons?11:30
animimotuswhat the command name to launch knemo ? "knemo" does not works :)11:30
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austeritythat is the 2nd ttime I seen that question come up11:31
compilerwriterI have tried Enlightenment, Gnome, KDE, and Fluxbox, are there any other worthy guis out there for me to take a look at?  So far KDE is winning with fluxbox as a no frills close second.11:31
SolidSourceSkuller: no....Came over from Fedora/SuSE (for a few years) and then started on kubuntu breezy when it came out....11:31
waylandbillSkuller: there's probably several people in here with a bunch of experience with the OS.11:31
Skullerwaylandbill: yes..i figured that...theres quite a bunch of people here with a LOT of experience/knowledge with this OS11:32
waylandbillI started with slackware a while back myself.11:32
Skullerwaylandbill: good to know.....11:33
JucatoSkuller: we are all related to the Kubuntu community. even you :D11:33
austerityI have a simple aas that required the coursework for lin cert jsut never took th etest =(11:33
SolidSourceJucato: LOL11:33
Jucato(so now do your part and help us help others :P)11:33
austeritythe test*11:33
SkullerSolidSource: cool...11:33
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waylandbillJucato: :)11:33
carl__waylandbill: any idea where it can be obtained or rahter what packet it is part of?11:34
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JucatoSkuller: knwoledge comes w/ experience, and experience w/ usage :D11:34
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Jucatoso start using! :D11:34
SkullerJucato: true that....and for that you need time to spend with your darling computer11:34
alleeanimimotus: system settings -> advanced -> service manager   or  dcop kded kded loadModule knemod11:34
waylandbillcarl__: that should be supplied with wine. It should have net capability right out of the box.11:34
_eMaX_anyone here has a clear procedure on recompiling the kernel from the repositories' kernel source (which includes the ubuntu patches) so that one comes out with an exact copy of kernel and initramfs?11:34
JucatoSkuller: nah.. you only need a minimum of 12 hours a day11:34
SolidSourcealright, well I'm going to go to bed before the deliriously, bad jokes start flowing11:35
Jucato!kernel | _eMaX_11:35
ubotu_eMaX_: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild11:35
SkullerJucato: lol....sure sure...i'll send my dog to school for me and let him top the class11:35
compilerwriterskuller it is a machine.  Not something to make love to.11:35
SolidSourceyou all enjoy11:35
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JucatoSkuller: at least you'll be able to say "My dog ate my homework" :D11:35
SolidSourcecompilerwriter: your poor computer11:35
carl__waylandbill: well maybe so... but it doesnt >.< when running 32-bit applications on a 64bit machine they usually fails due to ipv6 but it's turned off and everything _SHOULD_ work... however it doesn't :p11:35
Skullercompilerwriter: who said anything about lovemaking?...i just referred to 'using' it...:D11:35
SolidSourceyeah skuller doesn't love is computer... he thinks of it as a hooker11:36
waylandbillcarl__: so you have an ipv4 address?11:36
SkullerJucato: :D....you know the teachers here are too smart....they know i provide my dog enough food...11:36
austerityyou have to recompile source for wine to work on 6411:36
carl__waylandbill: yup11:36
austerityjope i said that right11:36
austerityit's late11:37
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animimotusallee: thx a lot11:37
waylandbillI haven't had experience with 64-bit, but building from source wouldn't be a bad idea.11:37
SkullerSolidSource: lol....wait till my darling hears this....ur history buddy....she packs a chainsaw in her belt on her thigh (lower left panel)11:37
austeritybut yea took me a full day to get my WoW up otherwise I'd still be in win11:37
alleeanimimotus: np11:37
compilerwriterAnyway abou those desktop environs I was asking about?11:37
waylandbillcompilerwriter: xfce11:38
carl__waylandbill: it's close to impossible from what I've heard... so I would rather not :/11:38
compilerwriterok will give that a try.11:38
waylandbillcompilerwriter: it's colesterol free don't ya know. :-D11:38
compilerwriterAny more?11:39
waylandbillcarl__: If you have the dependencies, it should be a breeze11:39
compilerwriterI found fluxbox to be a austere, but a very decent choice for XDMCP11:39
SkullerJucato: hey...i do help people at times...i do confuse people at times...so the nethelp might go in -'ve' bu still...i help people with factoids at time..:)11:39
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carl__waylandbill: well since I'm doing fuck all anyway I'd better give it a shot I suppose11:40
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:40
JucatoSkuller: I started w/ that. useful factoids, aren't they? :D11:40
waylandbillcarl__: may even be able to use apt-build, but I haven't tried.11:40
austerityubotu ownage11:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ownage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:40
compilerwriterBTW:  What does it mean when one gets the error:  The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly?11:41
austerityokay bot's are talking back again time for me to go been fun guys11:41
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SkullerJucato: yep sure are....its just i have external exams this year and parents dont allow too much time with the darling so rate of learnin the new OS is slow11:41
waylandbillcompilerwriter: why use anything but KDE. ;-)11:41
carl__waylandbill: hmm only thing is that I haven't been able to get checkinstall to compile on my machine either :p11:41
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waylandbillcarl__: does it give an error? You're probably missing prerequisites.11:42
compilerwriterI was looking for alternatives to kde for the purposes of remote X.  Felt it might save system resources etc.11:42
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Skullerso a BIG THANKS11:42
_eMaX_Jucato: ok how do I find out which of debian/Config/* was used11:42
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compilerwriterMore importantly be faster over the net.11:43
Jucatoer.. that I don't know :)11:43
waylandbillcompilerwriter: if you have good connection, should be just fine. If you have a terrible connection, you may find ssh as the best alternative.11:43
carl__waylandbill: ah! now it's in the resp.... :)11:43
_eMaX_you see11:43
_eMaX_that's the problem11:43
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compilerwriterYes Waylandbill I have got ssh set up so that only I am allowed to ssh, and then only with a key, to top that all off sourceforge denyhosts has been implemented.11:44
intelikeyheh i have kde running with no pannels  looks like twm or something.11:45
intelikeyi should say no pannel no icons11:45
compilerwriterOther than not allowing anyone to ssh did I miss something in my security?11:45
waylandbillcompilerwriter: if you have a key, you can disable keyboard authentication to tighten it up even more.11:46
intelikeymax user processes ?11:46
waylandbillcompilerwriter: keep in mind that if you lose the key or let it expire, you'll need physical access if you choose that route.11:47
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compilerwriterWaylandbill:  I know that I normally have physical access.  This is for when I am at the in-laws etc.  I don't allow password authentication for ssh.  Is that what you meant or is there an even tighter thing I can do.11:48
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waylandbillcompilerwriter: that's what I meant11:49
compilerwriterNow as for xfce.  Adept as found Xfce4 which is a meta package for xfce.11:51
compilerwriterIs that what I want? or is there something else in the repos?11:51
compilerwriterFound an xfwm That looks more like Waylandbill.11:53
c0nv1ctcompilerwriter: you can do 'xubuntu-desktop'11:53
c0nv1ctit will install all the xfce packages included in that distro11:53
compilerwritersudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop?11:53
c0nv1ctits quite a bit of stuff11:54
compilerwriterThen do I have to install?11:54
c0nv1ctif you wanna be more selective, you can go the xfce4 route11:54
_eMaX_Jucato: in addition the description does not apply entirely to ubuntu. The directory structure of the sources is different.11:54
waylandbillc0nv1ct: won't that change his dm though?11:54
c0nv1ctwaylandbill: possibly11:54
c0nv1ctwaylandbill: when i installed kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu, it kept it as gdm though11:54
intelikeyodd in setting hot keys i can't use [win]   it seems to be a meta key or something ?11:54
waylandbillprobably better to go the xfce route.11:54
c0nv1ctcompilerwriter: what DM do you use now?11:54
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waylandbillc0nv1ct: yeah, but kubuntu normally uses kdm, not gdm11:55
c0nv1ctyeah, and i was running GDM, and nothing was changed11:55
compilerwriterI probably have gdm, c0nv1ct.11:55
c0nv1ctwhere as kubuntu installed KDM by default11:55
c0nv1ctso, i assume that the xubuntu package will keep the DM the same11:56
compilerwriterI started out with Gnome and did the sudo apt get kubuntu desktop.11:56
c0nv1ctoh you will be fine then11:56
waylandbillcompilerwriter: if you don't mind having gdm, then you should be okay to go with xubuntu-desktop.11:56
c0nv1cti installed xubuntu-desktop in gnome, and it didnt mess with GDM11:56
compilerwriterThough I did a fresh install of Kubuntu a while back. So I may have kdm.11:56
c0nv1cti dont think KDM works that well for loading different WMs11:56
waylandbillc0nv1ct: that's because they use the same one.11:57
c0nv1ctxubuntu doesnt use XDM?11:57
Jucatoxubuntu uses GDM11:57
waylandbillc0nv1ct: no. it uses gdm becuase it's based on gtk libraries11:57
c0nv1ctah ok, never installed a pure xubuntu system11:57
Jucatoxdm isn't the Xfce Display Manager btw :D11:57
c0nv1ctno, its the old X DM11:58
intelikeyJucato ?11:58
waylandbilland kdm loads other wm's just fine.11:58
JucatoXDM = X Display Manager11:58
c0nv1ctya, isnt that what i said? :P11:58
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intelikeyyes but doesn't xubuntu use xdm ?11:58
Jucatoc0nv1ct: I was telling intelikey that :)11:58
Jucatointelikey: nope. not on Xubuntu.11:58
Jucatomaybe Xfce does. but not XUbuntu11:59
compilerwriterSo then which is the safest plan for me?11:59
Jucatobut whether Xfce uses it or not, it's not the "Xfce Display Manager" :D11:59
c0nv1cti just figured XDM would follow along with the Xfce 'lightweight' aspect12:00
intelikeyyou mean xfce4 ?12:00
waylandbillc0nv1ct: it would except that xubuntu has a good deal of gtk apps installed already, so gdm isn't costing that much.12:01
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intelikeyxfce4 doesn't depend on any dm    there doesn't seem to be a meta-package xfce12:01
c0nv1ctwaylandbill: that makes sense, GDM is much better anyway12:01
intelikeydapper ^12:01
intelikey!info xfce12:01
ubotuPackage xfce does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas12:02
c0nv1ct!info xubuntu-desktop12:02
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.23 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 36 kB12:02
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waylandbillfor that matter, none of them depend on a display manager, all of them could be started from the command line.12:03
intelikeyso there isn't a meta package for xfce like there is for gnome and kde12:03
Jucato!info xfce4 | intelikey12:03
ubotuintelikey: xfce4: meta-package for xfce4 dependencies. In component universe, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 48 kB12:03
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Jucatofwiw, KDE itself doesn't depend on KDM. the only dependencies of KDE (base) is Qt, (aRts) and kdelibs12:04
intelikeyDepends: xfwm4 (>= 4.3.0-1), xfwm4-themes (>= 4.3.0-1), xfce4-mcs-plugins (>= 4.3.0-1), xfce4-panel (>= 4.3.0-1), xfce4-icon-theme (>= 4.3.0-1), xfdesktop4 (>=12:05
intelikey4.3.0-1), xfce4-utils (>= 4.3.0-1), gtk2-engines-xfce, xfce4-session (>= 4.3.0-1)12:05
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intelikeyso then xfce4 is the meta package for xfce      it is just very light weight12:07
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compilerwriterI must be doing something wrong with the sudo apt-get command.  I keep getting: E: Invalid operation xubuntu-desktop12:07
c0nv1ctcompilerwriter: did you include the word 'install' ?12:08
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compilerwriterc0nv1ct no i did not.12:08
c0nv1ctcompilerwriter: it helps if you do :P12:08
compilerwritersudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?12:09
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c0nv1ctyep, that'll do it12:09
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Jucatoyou should look for genii :D12:10
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intelikeyis there a meta-package for blackbox ?12:11
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Jucatocompilerwriter: meta-package - a package that installs or points to other "real" packages12:13
intelikeycompilerwriter a package that simply depends on other packages but doesn't really installing anything.12:13
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c0nv1ctdamn, you are all making me crave caffene12:14
c0nv1cti gotta make tea now12:15
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waylandbillI wonder why I wasn't offered the baileys. :-D12:15
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intelikeysomeone build a meta-package for a blackbox desktop.   really light and usable.12:17
compilerwriterintelikey I have found fluxbox to be quite light and usable.12:18
Jucatointelikey: what for?12:18
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Jucato!info blackbox | intelikey12:18
ubotuintelikey: blackbox: Window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.70.1-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 251 kB, installed size 768 kB12:18
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intelikeyJucato cause that needs a few usable apps added.   "bbappconf bbconf bbkeys bbmail bbpager bbppp bbrun bbsload bbtime blackbox blackbox-themes12:21
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Jucatoah I see....12:21
intelikeymaybe not the full list but the bbrun and *conf would be nice12:21
intelikeyand a xfe xfw pair maybe12:22
intelikeyerrr xfm12:22
intelikeyturn the w over...12:22
c0nv1cthmm, now i wanna install fluxbox and blackbox12:22
c0nv1cti've only used fluxbox on knoppix STD12:23
intelikeythat would give it a filemanager an editor a command interface and some config apps.12:23
intelikeymaybe a elinks for the web browser ???12:23
intelikeythat would pretty much get a fellow started.12:24
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compilerwriterOK I have this issue of only one display manager can run at a time, unless, of course I want to run two display managers.  Which is better kdm or gdm?12:24
c0nv1ctafaik, gdm is best when running multiple DEs12:25
Jucatoc0nv1ct: except when you will be running KDE12:25
c0nv1ctgdm works for kde just fine12:25
intelikeyblackbox bbappconf bbconf bbmail xfe xfm elinks  bbppp bbrun    there ya go. that's a usable gui+apps list.12:25
c0nv1cti had gnome, kde and xfce4 all working fine from GDM12:26
Jucatoc0nv1ct: if you start KDE from GDM, you won't have a direct Shutdown/Restart option. just logout/end sessoin12:26
intelikeyoh and     meun   ^ don't forget that.12:26
Jucatogoes the same if you use KDM and start GNOME12:26
c0nv1ctJucato: really? i never noticed that12:26
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Jucatoyou never shutdown w/o logging out?12:27
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c0nv1cti dont remember it being missing, i'm sure i shutdown or rebooted from inside KDE12:27
Jucatointelikey: there are other, more direct ways to logout12:27
intelikeyJucato i never logout to shutdown12:28
compilerwriterI must be running gdm then.  I don't have a direct shutdown.12:28
compilerwriterI am currently in kde though.12:28
c0nv1cti guess, when i usually need to reboot, i've been working in a console, so i just init 612:28
intelikeycompilerwriter it's configurable also.  can be set to ask or simply logout.12:28
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waylandbillboth gdm and kdm work fine for whichever de you are going to run. It's really personal choice and what libraries you're normally going to use.12:29
compilerwriterI almost never shut down anyway.12:29
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Jucatowaylandbill: except, like I said, when it comes to shutting down/restarting12:29
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Jucatoc0nv1ct: does init 6 initiate the proper session processes when rebooting?12:29
waylandbillpush the power button :)12:30
c0nv1ctJucato: i doubt it, it just kills everything12:30
intelikeyok.  now let me put my $.02 in.    gdm is same, but kdm is insane; using /root for a temp dir.12:30
Jucatoc0nv1ct: ah.. baaaaad  :D12:30
Jucatointelikey: what does?12:30
Jucatokdm use /root for a temp dir?12:30
intelikeyJucato kdm12:30
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compilerwriterSo since I most often use kde it would make sense  then to use kdm as my dm?12:31
Jucatointelikey: how do you check?12:31
intelikeyi've been telling you folks that for a long time.   rm /root and reset X12:31
waylandbillI don't see anything that looks like temp files in /root with "ls -al"12:31
c0nv1ctwaylandbill: i'm looking too, and dont see anything12:32
Jucatook I'll try that later. can't restart X right now. but afaik, it doesn't do that here...12:32
c0nv1ctanything that looks like temp stuff anyway12:32
Jucato /root is empty...12:32
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intelikeywaylandbill they are in root/.blah/12:32
intelikeyenturpret blah12:32
Jucatook there12:32
waylandbillof course they'd be in .xxx   or I'd of skipped the -al12:33
Jucatobut are you sure it's kdm doing this?12:33
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intelikeyyes it's kdm12:33
Jucatoeverybody: don't care again12:33
compilerwriterintelikey Is there a security issue with using /root as temp? What makes this bad practice?  Please don't beat me too much about the head yet, Genii hasn't brought the coffee.12:34
c0nv1cti never go into /root anyway, i dont care :)12:34
intelikeycompilerwriter in my openion yes.  but it is debatable.12:34
waylandbillI was going to dig down into /root/.kde but maybe I don't care to anymore. ;)12:34
c0nv1ctonly to make some nifty bash aliases, thats about it12:34
intelikeyc0nv1ct every time you issue kdesu or sudo you go into root12:34
c0nv1ctnot into "/root"12:35
intelikeywhere do yu think root lives ?12:35
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c0nv1ctwhen i use sudo, it leaves its home :)12:35
intelikeysudo -i does12:35
waylandbillthe things in /root/.kde are symlinks to /var/tmp12:35
c0nv1ctso its home has no real use to me12:35
c0nv1ctwell yeah, but how often do you really need to use sudo -i?12:36
intelikeywaylandbill what version ?12:36
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Jucatosymlinks to /var and /tmp12:36
intelikeyc0nv1ct do you ever sudo su ?12:36
c0nv1ctonly if i have a ton of commands to run as root12:36
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Jucatoof course, there are some configs and app settings in there too12:37
Jucatobut that's only normal when you use kdesu/sudo w/ a KDE app12:37
intelikeythen they have "fixed" it in some degree... but it still shouldn't be even touching the adminstrator account's home dir.12:37
Jucatofor example, kdesu kate12:37
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compilerwriterJucato that I have done.12:38
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intelikeyin dapper they were not "are not" symlinks.12:38
intelikeyso i still say kdm is insane, for accessing /root   never should happen.12:39
compilerwriterI think I shall err on the side of caution and use gdm12:39
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waylandbillintelikey: you thinking any persistent configuration it needs should be under /etc? I could agree with that.12:39
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intelikeythere are a thousand ways they could have done better than that...12:40
Riddell** topic diff  please test edgy->feisty upgrade https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade12:40
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nosrednaekimummmm does that mean we can only talk aboutthat?12:40
intelikey /etc or /etc/kdm/ would have be standard.   there are always /usr/share/kdm /usr/lib/kdm and a lot of other places they could have went and been "within the norm"12:41
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nosrednaekimisn't that sort of thing defined in LSB?12:43
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intelikeywhere it does make a "real" differance is on a box that security is essential and the root account is used.12:43
intelikeynosrednaekim yes.12:44
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nosrednaekimahh.... so the location of the kdm files doesn't follow LSB?12:45
intelikeyalso Jucato compilerwriter waylandbill anyone else concerned,  ls -ld /root   is it readable to anyone besides root ?12:45
intelikeyi have    d--------- 2 root root 4096 Mar  8 04:58 /root12:46
intelikeywhat have ye ?12:46
c0nv1ctdrwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2007-03-14 04:31 /root12:46
nosrednaekimdrwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2007-03-13 13:18 /root12:46
intelikeyworld readable12:46
compilerwriterdrwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2007-03-14 07:05 /root12:46
nosrednaekimintelikey: thats not a security issue is it?12:47
intelikeyworld readable all the way around.12:47
intelikeynosrednaekim absolutely.12:47
intelikeybut not in ubuntu it seems.12:47
waylandbillany file in there that would be of value wouldn't be world readable12:47
c0nv1ctwhat exactly in /root is so sensitive that it cant be read?12:47
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nosrednaekimwaylandbill: like what is so secret about /root?12:48
nosrednaekimthere really isn'e even anything in there12:48
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c0nv1ctits just a home directory12:48
intelikeywhat in a users account is sensitive ?     /root is an accounts home.  "the" adminestrators account. to be exact.12:48
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LycanNYC-workso im trying to remove gdm and now openoffice wants to go too how do i stoppopen from going12:49
waylandbillif there was something put in there that shouldn't be read, it would have been set to uo-r12:49
nosrednaekimdrwxrwx--- 109 michael michael 4096 2007-03-14 07:41 /home/michael12:49
nosrednaekim^^now is that insecure for a home directory?12:49
intelikeywaylandbill then why have permissions on dirs ?12:49
waylandbillthen why have permissions on files?12:50
c0nv1ctthen why put something in /root? lol12:50
intelikeysudo find / -type d -exec chmod 777 '{}' \;12:50
intelikeyif you want to play lets play...12:50
nosrednaekimwait... doesn't that find all files and modify their permissions?12:51
intelikeynosrednaekim no only dirs.  but don't run it.12:51
intelikeyit will break all kinds o things12:52
c0nv1ctlol yeah, i wouldnt12:52
waylandbillthe fact that the dir is o-w makes it that only root is going to put a file in there that can be read and as such, if it was important would also remove the ability to read if needed.12:52
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c0nv1ctor if it was really important, it would be encrypted12:53
nosrednaekimthats what I thought....12:53
intelikeynosrednaekim as touching your home dir.  only slightly.  should remove write access for group unless it's absolutely needed.12:53
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nosrednaekimintelikey: I'm the only member of my group12:53
intelikeythen should remove all access to the group12:54
nosrednaekimbut, yeah.i'll do that12:54
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nosrednaekimok...I just gave the group just read, just incase I add someone to my group for some reason12:55
intelikeywaylandbill as to your last comment.  then why is kdm writing to it ?12:55
intelikeyand that's my point    ^12:55
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waylandbillintelikey: it's writing to it yes, but in a subdir of drwx------, noone but root is going to read that12:57
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intelikeyshouldn't be touching /root at all.   and what is in the subdir is in /tmp  and or /var/tmp   so why is it going through /root to get there  ?12:59
c0nv1ctrobnyc_: /etc/X11/default-display-manager12:59
waylandbillI do agree the /root should be not world readable. but if the system needed to be that secure, wouldn't the umask set for new files restrict reading by others anyway?12:59
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smilehello linux people :-)01:01
intelikeywaylandbill i confessed first of all.  it's only of a minute "security" issue.   but the fact that kdm which users access all the time is writing in what is "supposed to be" the highest security dir on the system is not acceptable to me.01:01
c0nv1ctdear god, its smile01:01
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smilec0nv1ct: ooh it's u !! .. how r u ?01:02
c0nv1ctgood man, you?01:02
smilenosrednaekim: hi !01:02
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waylandbillintelikey: it's debatable if /root is of any more priority than /etc is.01:02
intelikeynot in most distros.01:03
smileanyone have a idea how to install BEWAN udb adsl on Edgy or Feizy ????? ... it works fine on Dapper !01:03
c0nv1cti dont even know what that is smile, sorry :)01:03
smilec0nv1ct: a ADSL modem .. i found a tutorial says that it's supported by Edgy01:04
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intelikeyln linux in general; /root is not group or user accessable but /etc has to be.  there are files that users must read in /etc/01:04
intelikeypardon  group or world ^01:05
waylandbillintelikey: but the ones they should not, they cannot.01:05
intelikeycorrect.  but the whole dir /root is "normally" off limits.01:05
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intelikeyand the files that users can not read in /etc/ they can still see.... what if file name was important for some reason....   but i'm finished on that topic.01:06
waylandbillyeah. I agree. I always assumed it was until you pointed it out. Shows how much I even acknowledge /root even exists. :-)01:07
intelikeyalso shows how much you though you knew about your own system....01:08
nosrednaekimintelikey: do you even need a /root with sudo?01:08
intelikeynosrednaekim yes01:08
nosrednaekimalthough i'm not dleteing it cause I enabled root log in01:08
intelikeyroot's home doesn't have to be /root you know.  just like user home doesn't have to be in /home....01:09
intelikeybut that's highly non-standard.01:09
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nosrednaekimyeah....I noticed that, I also read that home directories USED to be in /usr (thats back with UNIX)01:11
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waylandbillstill is... freebsd puts em in /usr01:12
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nosrednaekimwaylandbill: they just have to do things differently don't they?:-P01:12
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intelikeyyeah but location does not make safe,  anyone could cat /etc/passwd and see where you live...01:13
intelikeynosrednaekim no nothing changes just because your home is non-standard01:13
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waylandbillthey did it because / was a small parition and /usr was a big one.01:13
waylandbillor many times another drive.01:14
intelikeytime was when / could be on a floppy disk and /usr and /var on an hd01:14
nosrednaekimintelikey: I know....01:14
waylandbillintelikey: not too long ago in the grand scheme of things. :-)01:15
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capcomdoes someone know when in april feisty will be released? predicted in early, middle or late april?01:16
{slacky}someone knows where is the packet for "xmllint"... I'm trying to compile kdebase401:17
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intelikeyi also take issue with the fact that dpkg doesn't live in /sbin   that may not be lsb compliant either but i have never really persuid that.01:17
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)01:17
intelikeysee the links for the schedual01:17
intelikey{slacky} maybe   libxml2-utils - XML utilities01:18
intelikeynot sure.01:18
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{slacky}ok found01:19
{slacky}Feisty Fawn is ready to be released?01:19
smilehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheelp .. i cant find the option " find " in the "tools" menu in konqueror !!!01:19
{slacky}end of april?01:19
nosrednaekimcapcom: I heard april 1901:19
smilenosrednaekim: what's new in Feisty ?01:20
nosrednaekimsmile: its in edit01:20
{slacky}yes 19th april01:21
smilenosrednaekim: no .. i cant find it .. it's in tools ( outil in franch )01:21
capcomnosrednaekim: ok, thanks.01:21
nosrednaekimdid you load the kubuntu web browser profile?01:21
smilenosrednaekim: i mean " search a file "01:21
intelikey April 12th  is the release date  but they will still be working on  i18's  until the 19th01:21
nosrednaekimsearch for a file or search within an opened page?01:22
nosrednaekimworking on what?01:22
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{slacky}mmm will we have xorg 7.2 and beryl?01:22
nosrednaekimwhats that?01:22
intelikeylanguage packs.01:22
nosrednaekimahh I getcha01:22
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{slacky}configuration of the 3D effect... without we have to read howtos? :)01:23
nosrednaekim7.2....I think that was on the list...not sure01:23
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nosrednaekim{slacky}: thats not happening01:23
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intelikey   21   March 22nd      /!\ BetaRelease01:24
nosrednaekimyeah..I'm getting the first beta01:25
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nosrednaekimyou running dapper or something?01:26
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capcomwhat comes after feisty? g.... ?01:26
nosrednaekimgiddy giraffe...01:26
intelikey!lts | nosrednaekim01:27
ubotunosrednaekim: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.01:27
capcomgnomish gnu ;)01:27
nosrednaekimintelikey: I was kidding..01:27
nosrednaekimcapcom: I like it!!01:27
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nosrednaekimexcept unfortunately kubuntu would have to use the same name01:27
intelikeywhat's a "gu new" ?01:29
intelikeyand how do you distinguish a gnomish one from otheres ?01:29
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nosrednaekima gnomish one is smaller... and it all brown and ugly01:29
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intelikeybut you still didn't tell me what a gnu was ?01:30
waylandbillit's similar to a yak01:30
nosrednaekima gnu is a ox-like animal tht lives in africa01:30
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intelikey<sp!> gnu01:31
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intelikeylarge South African antelopes of the genus Catoblephas01:32
intelikeyi didn't know tha01:32
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{slacky}will be possible in the next release to choose ReiserFS when installing Kubuntu?01:33
nosrednaekimI wouldn't so much call them antelopes... but i'll leave that up to the topologists and zoologista01:33
nosrednaekim{slacky}: don't you need the alternate CD for that?01:33
{slacky}nosrednaekim: alternate?01:34
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c0nv1ctyeah, cant you use ReiserFS with edgy?01:34
Jucato{slacky}: the ALternate Install CD. afaik it has an option for reiserfs..01:34
c0nv1ctthats what i thought01:34
intelikeyif they use gnomish gnu will that prevent them using wolly wildebeest ?01:35
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nosrednaekimintelikey: thats along way in the future!!01:35
intelikeysame anamil tho  :)01:35
nosrednaekimby that time everyone will have forgotten the gnu01:35
nosrednaekimI' rather have a gnu01:36
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intelikeyso is that emacs goat supposed to actually be a wildebeest ?01:37
intelikeya gnu ?01:37
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waylandbillbecause the gnu emacs project is part of the gnu system.01:39
waylandbilland I didn't think it looked like a goat.01:39
nosrednaekimto somebody who didn't know what a gnu was or looked like, it would...:)01:40
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intelikeythe gnu gorgon01:41
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smilecan i have virs in my Linux ??01:46
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intelikeyvirus ?01:47
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2101:47
smileintelikey: yes !!01:47
intelikeyyou can if you can find one....  there have been a few.   like 5   i think01:47
intelikeyin the whole history of linux01:48
smileintelikey: really !! i think linux cant run virus !01:48
nosrednaekimthe latest was fixed within 24 hours01:48
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intelikeysmile like i said "if you can find one"01:48
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Tinuvamaybe only 5 viruses, but lotsa exploits01:49
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smileintelikey: linux can't be affected with a virus or a trojan my friend :-p01:49
intelikeyTinuva yeah  almost rivals M$ in that field01:49
intelikeysmile that's not true.01:50
Tinuvaof coarse linux can be affected by virus;s01:50
Tinuvait just needs a dumb user constantly on the root account01:50
smileTinuva: explain more plz !!01:50
intelikeyand the virus needs to be adepted for linux to some degree01:51
Tinuvayes the virus has to target linux thats obvious01:51
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Tinuvaproblem is, more users use windows so why write a virus for linux if it wont really spread01:51
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smileTinuva: every process needs to be compiled first and have to permission .. so IF  U R not ROOT .. u r SAFE !!!!01:52
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||arifaXwhat upgrade is this ? "a new version of kubuntu is available do you want to upgrade?" is this feisty??01:53
nosrednaekimfiesty alpha 5, yes01:53
nosrednaekimunless you like living on the bleeding edge, and this isn't your primary computer, don't do it01:53
smileTinuva: Linux desktop will kill Micsft in few years for many reasons01:54
smileTinuva: like security reason and the free open source01:55
smileTinuva: i mean the price too $$$$01:55
Tinuvasmile, we will see01:56
Tinuvai like linux, have many hopes for it01:56
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Tinuvabut windows still has the games01:57
waylandbilli think the free in freedom will be it's success, not free as in no cost.01:57
smileTinuva: stop saying bullshit ..01:57
Tinuvadude, ive been using linux since i was 8 years old01:57
smileTinuva: windows is spread now bekoz is easy to use !!!01:57
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Tinuvai think im a realist though01:57
Tinuvaanyways gtg01:57
smileTinuva: but Linux & UNIX were just for pro .. but now they r making things easier ..01:58
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waylandbillwindows is spread because it was forced onto many systems. people would've used anything else if windows wasn't there.01:58
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smileTinuva: Windows is developped by Miscrosoft Staff ( 2000 worker ) ... Linux is developped by all the world .. me .. and you !!! So ?? :-p01:59
aimeehey, I got a problem with kubuntu 6.10 i38601:59
aimeethis is a sound problem01:59
c0nv1cthow sound is it?02:00
smilewaylandbill: dont forget that .. user r afraid to try a new thing .. but if they try linux .. they will fall in love & kick Windows out ;-)02:00
smilewaylandbill: like me .. and you maybe02:00
aimeec0nv1ct, I couldn't hear anything when kubuntu start although amarok play fine02:00
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smileaimee: check notification System02:01
nosrednaekimaimee: I don't hear the startup sounds wither02:01
waylandbillI already don't have windows. If I need it, I use a remote session on a co-worker's computer. :-)02:01
aimeeno, mplayer, kplayer noatun and kmplayer didn't work02:01
||arifaXnosrednaekim: why does this update come over regular updates when it is beta?02:01
smileaimee: run " kcontrol " and check Sound and multimedia --> system notification02:02
aimeebut why Mplayer, and noatun didn't work02:02
aimeeI don't know, mplayer connected to arts but i could hear no sound02:02
nosrednaekim||arifaX: IDK...02:02
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:03
||arifaXnosrednaekim: or is it just a question if I like to beta-test. I got this after the todays updates were installed02:03
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nosrednaekimyeah...thats basically it.... but they should word it better...02:03
smilesoooooooooooooooooooooo sory .. Linux can have virus .. but not serious http://librenix.com/?inode=2102:03
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aimeeI'm sure arts running, ubotu, but in sound system I couldn't hear sound test too02:04
waylandbilli don't think there was enough o's02:04
nosrednaekimubotu is a bot02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:06
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ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto02:06
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waylandbillhehe. is the question of connecting via dialup a rhetoric question? ;-)02:07
just-this-timewaylandbill: /02:07
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waylandbilljust-this-time: was just thinking out loud02:08
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keylogger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:12
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ubotulkl: userspace keylogger for x86 architecture. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)02:14
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eilker:) ?02:15
nosrednaekimwish I could get it for AMD6402:15
eilkeronly x86...02:15
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eilkernosrednaekim> http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net02:20
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nosrednaekimpython! ooohhh I can use this02:21
bentob0xwhen you mount a network share, do you have to specify the character set to use to preserve accents and stuff?02:21
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leiarI'm installing kubuntu on the teacher's laptops, with dualboot. It works fine, but this laptop has got a swtich to turn on and of the wireless NC. Anybodu who knows how to set this to default ON?02:22
nosrednaekimonly for windows.....02:22
nosrednaekimleiar: is it a hardware or software switch?02:23
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leiarnosrednaekim: hardware02:23
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leiarI'm installing kubuntu on the teacher's laptops, with dualboot. It works fine, but this laptop has got a swtich to turn on and of the wireless NC. Anybodu who knows how to set this to default ON?02:24
nosrednaekimleiar: then why do you need a "default" hardware is either on or its off...02:25
waylandbillis it a switch or a push button?02:25
leiarwaylandbill: a push button02:26
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nosrednaekimahh..and does it "click" or is it a spring?02:26
c0nv1ctleiar: have you checked the bios for a setting for that?02:26
leiarin fact. I can't enable it at all by pushing this button02:26
leiarc0nv1ct: good idea02:27
c0nv1ctit could be software controlled though, which would suck02:27
waylandbillor is it just a push button that closes a gate02:27
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waylandbillthis one simply sends a signal to the nic card and toggles the state that way. it does store the last state which is nice. :-)02:28
nosrednaekim mine is software controlled through ACPI, thankfully i'm using Ndiswrapper and the windows driver can actually handle the software switch!!02:28
waylandbillnosrednaekim: that's probably how this one works too.02:29
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nosrednaekimyeah... funny thing is, I have a bluetooth switch (but not bluetooth) and it sends an ACPI signal also a which I can use(I just have to figure out how)02:30
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c0nv1cti bet thats how leiar's laptop wireless button works02:31
c0nv1cti doubt it'll be easy to get to function in linux02:31
nosrednaekimits pretty hard.... but ussually, as long as you don't touch the button, its ok..02:32
Lamingtonhey folks02:32
LamingtonI'd like to run a Tremulous server all the time02:32
LamingtonHow do I do that and switch between that and my KDE desktop nice and easy ?02:32
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c0nv1ctLamington: i used to use 'screen' to run servers in the background like that02:34
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Lamingtonscreen ?02:34
c0nv1ctLamington: or you can just run it in one of your ttys, like alt-f2 through f602:34
c0nv1ctthen just alt-f7 to get back to KDe02:35
Lamingtonyes I tried that but Tremulous wont start up for some reason02:35
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just-this-timewhere is modem lights applet ?02:35
c0nv1ctLamington: what error did you get?02:35
Lamingtonerr I'd have to try it again02:35
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Lamingtoncause I dont remember exactnly :P02:36
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mdtykeHey.  Ive not moved long from Windows.  Is there an FTP client, like CuteFTP that'll allow me to remotely edit files (eg: .html, .php) etc02:36
Lamingtonjust a sec02:36
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mdtykeI really like this KFTPGrabber, but it seems to be lacking the Edit feature02:36
c0nv1ctunless it has to run in X, it should work like that02:36
c0nv1ctmdtyke: konqueror works for that02:36
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nosrednaekimmdtyke: konquror?02:36
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c0nv1cttremulous looks kinda interesting, i've never played it02:37
c0nv1ctare the graphics any good?02:37
just-this-timemstyke prefer ssh02:38
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/02:38
Lamingtontremulous uses the quake3 engine02:38
c0nv1ctah, then thats not bad02:38
c0nv1cti'm gonna install it :D02:38
Lamingtonits alot of fun02:39
c0nv1ctis it multiplayer only?02:39
mdtykeWell, why I liked CuteFTP was the fact I could just right click>Edit, and not have to open other programs02:39
mdtykewith Konqueror, I still have to go and open Kate to be able to do that02:39
c0nv1ctwhats wrong with opening kate/02:39
Lamingtonok I have something wierd happening here that has nothing to do with tremulous02:40
mdtykeNothing is.. but I do a lot of editing, so it's just a lot of extra hassel02:40
LamingtonI'll sort that out02:40
mdtykehaving to open other programs etc02:40
c0nv1ctLamington: are there bots so i can learn without hopping into a server?02:40
Lamingtonno bots sorry02:40
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mdtykeIf you've used CuteFTP, you'll see the advantages of simple editing02:40
c0nv1ctmdtyke: i've used cuteftp, but you know you can just keep kate open02:40
Lamingtonyou can run your own server though and run around in it building things and stuff by yourself :P02:41
c0nv1ctkate can handle more than 1 file in the same instance02:41
mdtykeI know c0nv1ct.. but its just annoying then having two programs, as opposed to one02:41
mdtykesupposedly KFTPGrabber (which is great) can view/edit remote files, but for the life of me I've never seen how02:41
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nosrednaekimmdtyke: I think you can just browse the remote folder in kate...02:42
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mdtykeI do like Kate.. I just wish it would do what I want it to do, which is have a button to compile java :P02:43
mdtykeThe Java Editors Ive seen for Linux have to be the ugliest, sluggish..est things Ive ever seen in my life02:43
mdtykeI'm used to doing stuff in Textpad for windows.. which is essentially Kate with a button running a tool (like Kate's external tools) that compiles Java02:44
mdtykeI have my Kate compiling, but it opens a Konsole window.. I was trying to figure out how I could get the external tool I made to call the embedded terminal, but I couldnt do it02:44
mdtykeas considering it's there, it would be much handier, than having windows popping up all over the place, just to test something02:44
LamingtonI think I might go play Tremulous now :P02:45
LamingtonIf you see me online playing tremulous I go by the nick 'kubuntumatic'02:45
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ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines02:46
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Jucato!away > Lamington|away02:47
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Lamingtoneh ?02:48
Lamingtonwhats this ?02:48
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JucatoLamington: please turn off your public away messages02:49
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LamingtonYou realise you are complaining about a default setting in Konversation ?02:49
HobbseeLamington: it's not the default, trust me.02:49
Jucatoit is not a default setting in Kubuntu's Konversation02:49
LamingtonI havent changed it02:49
Jucatoit is also not a default setting in Konversation (the maintainer has made sure of that)02:49
schmakkanyone happen to have a solution to the fan spinning at 100% on ati cards with binary driver?02:50
just-this-timehow to test modem /dev/modem ?02:50
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LamingtonWhat is the problem ?02:50
eilkernosrednaekim>: this works    http://distrojockey.com/2005/ultimate-linux-keylogger-uberkey.190.linux02:50
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ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto02:50
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JucatoLamington: see what the bot has said02:50
Jucatosimply turn it off and everything will be fine02:50
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nosrednaekimeilker: thanx02:51
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ubotuclamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB02:54
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eilker!firestarter > eilker02:55
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leiarlost connection, back again02:55
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leiarhow do i add a user to the sudoers group?02:55
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Lamington|awaythat didnt work02:56
leiarI can't remember setting any root password when installing kubuntu..02:56
c0nv1ctleiar: visudo02:56
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c0nv1ctleiar: there is no root password by default02:56
eilkerleiar: from system settings too02:56
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eilkerpeople do u use guarddog and clamav ? is it necessary ?02:57
c0nv1ctclamav isnt really, but i like to have a firewall02:57
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c0nv1cti didnt like guarddog, i have a nice script02:58
Lamington|awayHows that ?02:58
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JucatoLamington|away: perfect02:58
eilkerit doesnt seem to be easy to cofgre iptable , does it ?02:58
Lamington|awayGood I'm glad we're all happy now02:59
JucatoLamington|away: you turned it off right?02:59
c0nv1ctnot exactly eilker02:59
Lamington|awayI had to find it first02:59
Jucatoyou could have asked :)02:59
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c0nv1ctiptables gets pretty complicated, but just to create simple rules to block ports isnt too hard02:59
Lamington|awayWell I found it02:59
knubbesince a while, if i leave my computer and then comes back after 15 minutes, kde freezes itself02:59
knubbeis this a known problem?03:00
nosrednaekimand what hppens when you move the mouse?03:00
Jucatoknubbe: um.. no..03:00
Hobbseeknubbe: openGL screensaver?03:00
eilkerc0nv1ct>: does your iptables configration hold in a file ?03:00
knubbei had my firefox window opened. i coulf refresh it (using F5)  but i couldnt switch application, click the "kde button" ..03:00
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knubbeJucato: ok.03:00
c0nv1cteilker: yes, its a script that is executed at boot, iptables doesnt remember anything03:00
knubbeHobbsee: ill have a look. one sec.03:01
knubbeHobbsee: yes! "Rotation (GL)"03:01
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eilkerc0nv1ct> may i see your script ? or may i use it too ?03:01
knubbeHobbsee: is something wrong with opengl since the last kernel upgrade last week?03:02
c0nv1cteilker: its arno-iptables-firewall, you can find it in the repos03:02
eilkerc0nv1ct> thanx let me try03:02
Hobbseeknubbe: did this only start last week?03:02
c0nv1ctyou have to edit the .conf file, to allow incoming ports03:02
knubbeHobbsee: im not sure when it started, ive been using another computer lately.03:03
knubbeHobbsee: but i know it used to work03:03
nosrednaekimknubbe: did you have any form of binary video driver installed?03:03
nosrednaekimbecause kernel updates sometime mess those up03:03
knubbenosrednaekim: yes! i upgraded w32codecs last week. that might be it?03:03
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just-this-time - /dev/ttys0 ok03:05
nosrednaekimknubbe: did you upgrade the kernel?03:05
just-this-timehow do I point /dev/modem to /dev/ttys003:05
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TheInfinityperhaps here also the question - how can i update the kernel without network access?03:05
knubbeknubbe: yes. i upgraded via repos quite recently.03:06
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knubbenosrednaekim: yes. i upgraded via repos quite recently.03:06
nosrednaekimok, did you have the binary nvidia or binary ati drivers installed?03:06
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c0nv1ctdamnit, vmware workstation doesnt like my new kernel03:07
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nosrednaekim!language | c0nv1ct03:08
ubotuc0nv1ct: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:08
c0nv1ctit wont build the kernel module03:08
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c0nv1ctdamnit is not profanity :)03:08
Jucatoc0nv1ct: you will have to rerun the install/config script03:08
c0nv1ctaccording to the FCC atleast03:08
knubbenosrednaekim: im not sure really. i did apt-get upgrade / dist-upgrade, and noticed the kernel was being upgraded. but i didnt spot any nvidia/ati upgrades. im using a intel-chipset though (didnt note any upgrades for that one either)03:08
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c0nv1ctJucato: thats what i am doing, it fails to build the module, i get a few errors03:09
Jucatoc0nv1ct: you also need to have the kernel headers and/or restricted modules for that specific kernel version03:09
nosrednaekimoh ok... if its an intel, no worry about binary drivers03:09
c0nv1ctJucato: i got the headers, not sure about restricted modules though03:09
nosrednaekimdo a glxinfo pls, and see if you have direct rendering03:09
nosrednaekimknubbe: do you have an nvidia or ati card in that computer?03:10
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knubbenosrednaekim: No, intel. (xorg.conf: Driver "i810")03:11
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nosrednaekimknubbe: did you run "glxinfo"?03:11
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knubbenosrednaekim: yes, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10341/03:13
mdtykeI wonder will iTunes ever make a Linux version :(03:13
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fuelmdtyke: i dont think they will :(03:13
mdtykeSilly Apple.. and I love them otherwise\03:13
fuelmdtyke: its not that they are silly , rather there are many reasons , first linux/ipod base is small , so they dont want to waste money maintaining linux version03:14
fuelsecond codec problems associated with linux03:14
YeasonI'm fiddling around with the new Herd 5 release and trying to get Beryl working but I get the error "The composite Manger has crashed twice within a minute..." and it wont start, anyone know what's up?03:14
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JucatoYeason: have you enabled the Composite extension in your xorg.conf03:17
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YeasonI tried that and it broke X, I couldn't get back in at all03:17
YeasonI might have done it wrong tho03:17
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nosrednaekimknubbe: ummm  don't do the grep just run glxinfo and look at the first 3-4 lines03:18
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fuelYeason: alt+f2 -> type kompmgr03:19
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Yeasonfuel: was something supposed to happen?03:19
fuelYeason: :D03:19
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knubbenosrednaekim: this is the complete: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10343/03:20
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YeasonJucato: can you give me a link/copy of what's supposed to go in the conf file so I can make sure I set it up right03:21
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nosrednaekimok...you have direct rendering...03:23
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mdtykeSilly question, but how do I receive a fax with Linux03:25
Yeasonthis might be a stupid question... do I need xgl installed for beryl to be happy?03:25
mdtykenothing came up in Repo for Fax03:25
nosrednaekimYeason: not if you have a Nvidia or Intell03:25
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Yeasondamn... that would've made it so much easier03:25
mdtykeoh actually nevermind.. for some reason my Adept lost all the lists03:25
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mdtykewent from 20k to 1.2k lol03:25
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kishorefriends i am having issues with bluetooth pairing03:27
kishorealways get the response that it failed!03:27
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kishorecan anyone help?03:27
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nosrednaekimkishore: try over at #ubuntu03:28
kishorei use kubuntu.. but ok ill check there03:29
nosrednaekimyeah, there are more people over there to help you03:29
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c0nv1ctunless its a KDE specific issue, ubuntu will be a better source for support03:29
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nosrednaekimI always ask for support here first tho... cause ubuntu  is SOOO busy03:30
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kishorelooks to be so...03:30
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waylandbillnosrednaekim: that's not the reason. You just like to talk to us. :-P03:31
YeasonI'm not sure if this is an improvement: I no longer get the crash message, but I still don't have the cube or anything03:31
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mdtykeI found sort of what I was looking for.  Geany03:32
nosrednaekimahh true... kde users are just so much more intelligent and nice..;)03:32
fuelkde rocks!03:32
mdtykeIt's for Gnome though, but it works in KDE.  I just dont like those stupid Gnome file browser things lol03:32
mdtykeIf I could find an equivalent to Geany that's KDE based, I'dbe a very happy man today03:32
ubotugeany: A fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (edgy), package size 1076 kB, installed size 3664 kB03:33
Yeasonlol... *makes mental note* helps to choose beryl as your window manager03:33
mdtykeIt's like Textpad03:33
mdtykeJust Gnome based =(03:33
|GaiJin|stupid question... I have gotten my hands on a AMD 64 prosessor, and a motherboard that fits it.... I want to be using linux, but I have experienced that spme things just ain't compatible with 64-bit... like the w32codecs, and opera... is it better to run i386 install or do I have to run amd64 install??03:34
nosrednaekimYeason: ahhh yes...thatr...03:34
nosrednaekimyou don't have to run 64 bit03:34
nosrednaekimw32 codecs are available for 64 bit however...03:34
nosrednaekim(at least in my experience)03:35
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|GaiJin|thought you have to cdhroot or something03:35
c0nv1ct|GaiJin|: do you have a specific need to run a 64bit OS?03:35
johanneshola amigos03:35
johannestengo una consulta03:35
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:35
johannesno puedo instalar amsn en mi ordenador03:35
|GaiJin|c0nv1ct: no... not really....03:35
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nosrednaekimjohannes: adios!!03:35
c0nv1ct|GaiJin|: then i wouldn't run it, use a 32bit version03:36
|GaiJin|but if I have the system for it... why shouldn't??03:36
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nosrednaekim|GaiJin|: cause it is a bit of a pain... but hey if you want to(like me) its very nice..03:36
|GaiJin|or to put it another way... why would anyone NEED to run a 64-bit system??03:37
c0nv1ctif they have more than 4gb of ram?03:37
nosrednaekim|GaiJin|: good question.... small performace increase mostly03:37
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c0nv1ct64bit is mainly for accessing huge amounts of memory03:37
|GaiJin|then... no I have no need for it t all...03:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:38
mdtyke:( NO Gaeilge03:38
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UranboyHi! I've installed kubuntu 6.10 on ASUS A6M, but I can't install the NVIDIA driver. After NVIDIA installation the KDE collapsed every time. Can you help? Thanks! :)03:39
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mdtykehehe.. collapsed03:40
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nosrednaekimUranboy: did you install the nvidia drivers from the repositories?03:40
UranboyYes, I tried, but after restart it shows a big grey screen... and nothing else.03:41
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nosrednaekimahh.... can you kill the X server?03:41
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UranboyCtrl+alt+backspace: black screenshot flashed, and gray again.03:42
nosrednaekimctrl+alt+f2 work?03:43
Uranboyctrl+alt+F2: like the bckspace combo. :(03:43
nosrednaekimhmmm...it doesn't give you a text login windows?03:44
fuelits ctrl+alt+shift+bksp03:44
nosrednaekimnever heard that one...is it just for nvidias?03:45
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UranboyIt's the 3. installation today, everything is ok, but the nvidia driver confused  my life.03:45
fuelJucato: greetings!03:45
Jucatohi fuel!03:46
nosrednaekimfuel: what does ctrl+alt+shift+bkspce do?03:46
UranboyWith suse 10.2 nvidia works cool, there was another problems, so I changed to kubuntu.03:46
fuelnosrednaekim: kills x server03:46
UranboyNosrednaekim: nothing03:46
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nosrednaekimfuel: permanantly?03:47
nosrednaekimUranboy: did you try ctrl+alt+space+bkspace?03:47
fuelnosrednaekim: permanently ? it kills your session and you end up with kdm or gdm03:47
Jucatofuel: Ctrl+Alt+**Shift**+Backspace?03:47
Uranboynos: tried. nothing.03:47
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nosrednaekimyeah.. sorry... whoops/./03:47
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fuelJucato: yeah , i might be wrong as usual03:48
wimpiesI want to add a printer but the 'add' wizard does not show my parallel port as a selectable option (only SMB and OTHER)03:48
UranboyWith shift also nothing. Do I install again?03:48
Admiral_Chicagofuel: no offense but Jucato is probably right03:48
nosrednaekimfuel: oh... thats what ctrl+alt+bakspce does too03:48
Jucatoheh Admiral_Chicago I haven't said anything yet :D03:49
nosrednaekimbut you are still probably right..lol03:49
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nosrednaekimUranboy: boot into recovery mode03:50
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Uranboynosrednaekim: Trying03:50
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nosrednaekimBye all, have to go..03:50
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UranboyRecovery mode: stopped at half.03:51
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Uranboynosrednaekim: bye03:52
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UranboyMay help, if I start the live CD?03:53
fuelJucato: well that works though03:54
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sound_fxDoes Knode work with newsgroups that I have to SSL into?04:02
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f00hello people04:05
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f00I come from debian and I'm used to stable/testing/unstable releases. Is ubuntu using the same method?04:06
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xBilli guess so04:07
abattoir!release | f0004:07
ubotuf00: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases04:07
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f00so there's no "unstable release" in parallel with the official one, and with latest and unstable software releases04:09
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f00I ask this because ubuntu speaks about "releases" everywhere, but never tells there is one single at any time04:09
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f00while this way is popular among distros04:10
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PhinnForthow can i clean out old kernels?04:13
PhinnForti tried to just "aptitude remove linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic", but it tried to remove my current headers04:14
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BluesKajHowdy Folks , PC Mag , finally begrudgingly calls (K)Ubuntu a "good OS" ...heh  :)04:16
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BluesKajanyone here subscribe to Linux Journal ?04:17
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matthiasi have a big problem04:19
matthiasa really big problem04:19
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matthiasi cant update my kubuntu-desktop package04:19
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matthiasbecause cupsys cant get configured04:20
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matthiasand my second big problem is04:20
pacmanAnyone know what the latest version of Java is that will work with Kubuntu04:20
matthiascant configure either04:20
swanflthe others cause major problems with apps, including frostwire and firefox'04:20
matthiascan i fix this04:21
PhinnFortconsole-setup won't work here either04:21
PhinnFort /update04:21
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matthiasand x11-common?04:21
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PhinnForti think it works now04:21
matthiaswhat works now?04:21
PhinnForttry to run "dpkg --configure -a"04:21
PhinnFortafter I run dpkg --configure -a04:22
PhinnFortx11-common was buggy a couple of weeks ago04:22
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matthiasdpkg --configure -a04:24
matthiasdoesnt work04:24
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matthiasit just gives the same problems04:24
matthiaswhen using adept04:24
matthiasi hate this04:24
PhinnForthave you done "aptitude update"04:24
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PhinnFortthe x11-common package was fixed some time ago04:25
matthiasbut what with console-setup?04:25
matthiasand cupsys04:25
PhinnFortconsole-setup won't work here either04:26
BluesKajanyone here subscribe to Linux Journal ?04:26
PhinnForti think some script is failing04:26
PhinnFortBluesKaj: if people don't answer, probably not04:26
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mdtykeHmm.. anyone know how I can get Java to compile in KDevelop?04:27
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miltoshi ppl-:] 04:29