| gnomefreak | asac: did you go to bed already? | 12:36 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | no | 12:45 |
| asac | here :) | 12:45 |
| asac | what do you want? | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | weird crash reports but i dont remember the bugs now. bug 86002 is that a master? | 12:49 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 86002 in firefox "firefox crash in java [@JavaPluginFactory5::CreateSecureEnv] [@ProxyJNIEnv] " [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86002 | 12:49 |
| asac | have you searched for CreateSecureEnv | 01:03 |
| asac | ? | 01:03 |
| asac | i remember something | 01:03 |
| asac | hmm | 01:03 |
| asac | i think this is worth a master for now | 01:03 |
| gnomefreak | ill search and if not ill mark that one as master | 01:10 |
| asac | k | 01:18 |
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| asac | hi | 11:24 |
| gnomefreak | hi | 11:24 |
| gnomefreak | ask a simple fucking question and reporter goes off | 11:25 |
| asac | :/ | 11:26 |
| asac | hmm | 11:26 |
| asac | not nice then :) | 11:26 |
| gnomefreak | asac: are you on edgy? | 11:26 |
| asac | j | 11:27 |
| asac | y | 11:27 |
| asac | es | 11:27 |
| asac | ;) | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | libnss3-0d-dbg libnspr4-0d-dbg libpango1.0-0-dbg do you have these packages avilible? | 11:27 |
| asac | but will download feisty today | 11:27 |
| asac | yes? | 11:27 |
| asac | i think so at least | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | i hope not | 11:27 |
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| asac | what is his claim? | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | I did install the -dbg package for firefox, what's next? | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | Oh and by the way, if you start bugging people about poor bug-reports, fix the wiki first: | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | E: Couldn't find package firefox-dbg | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | E: Couldn't find package libnss3-0d-dbg | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | E: Couldn't find package libnspr4-0d-dbg | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | E: Couldn't find package libpango1.0-0-dbg | 11:28 |
| asac | ouch | 11:29 |
| asac | yeah | 11:29 |
| asac | hmm | 11:29 |
| asac | they are in MOTU | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | first and last ones are in main | 11:30 |
| asac | firefox-dbg is in main | 11:30 |
| asac | yes | 11:30 |
| asac | whats the problem? | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | the middle 2 are in universe | 11:30 |
| asac | why do you get error on all? | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | he says he doesnt have them (that the wiki is wrong) if its wrong i want to fix it | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | asac: thats his errors | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | not mine i have the packages | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | bug 82622 | 11:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 82622 in firefox "Firefox crashed [@ProcessAsyncMessages] " [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82622 | 11:31 |
| gnomefreak | not sure wher eyou came up with the summary either | 11:31 |
| gnomefreak | ah looks like you got it from description | 11:32 |
| asac | tell him he should go with as much packages of those as possible | 11:36 |
| asac | at least firefox-dbg is pretty old | 11:36 |
| asac | so if he hasn't it | 11:36 |
| asac | dunno | 11:36 |
| asac | (above is about the *no* -dbg package reporter) | 11:37 |
| asac | any idea where i can download feisty isos? | 11:38 |
| asac | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ | 11:39 |
| asac | there is only alternate cd | 11:39 |
| asac | hmm | 11:39 |
| asac | found it | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | yep there is its the d-i | 11:43 |
| asac | bittorrent has no sources ... and cdimage.u.c is slow | 11:43 |
| gnomefreak | i dont think we are gonna get much more info on that bug report. so lets hope we have enough to go on | 11:43 |
| asac | yeah | 11:45 |
| asac | probably not | 11:45 |
| gnomefreak | that realplayer bug i got a comment on so i might try it | 11:47 |
| gnomefreak | im working on bug 90577 after installing realplayer in /opt but i have to say do we close this if realplayer is the cause? | 12:00 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 90577 in firefox "Firefox crashes during form entry" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90577 | 12:00 |
| asac | yes | 12:01 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 12:02 |
| gnomefreak | well it gives me a little bit more | 12:11 |
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| asac | Bug 87108 | 03:33 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 87108 in firefox "firefox crashed while i had netbeans open" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87108 | 03:33 |
| asac | :) | 03:33 |
| asac | i like those titles | 03:33 |
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| hjmf | asac: I've created a new MASTER, bug #71702 and attached a couple of dups per their stacktraces. Review it when you have time. | 06:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 71702 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@js_FinalizeStringRT] [@js_atom_uninterner] " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71702 | 06:19 |
| asac | hjmf: look like dupes | 06:23 |
| asac | maybe aks them about installed extensions/plugins | 06:23 |
| asac | its a crash during shutdown | 06:23 |
| asac | which is of course wierd | 06:23 |
| hjmf | well, gnomefreak is already triagging bug #87749 (one of the dups) let's wait to see if he gets more info, though the reporter wasn't able to reproduce it | 06:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 87749 in firefox "Firefox Crashed (dup-of: 71702)" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87749 | 06:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 71702 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@js_FinalizeStringRT] [@js_atom_uninterner] " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71702 | 06:26 |
| AlexLatchford | http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=258 | 07:19 |
| AlexLatchford | dunno if anyone has seen this | 07:19 |
| asac | nice | 07:41 |
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| poningru | asac: question are we going to be building using xulrunner on feisty+1? | 08:21 |
| poningru | aka for 1.9 stuff | 08:21 |
| asac | probably | 08:22 |
| asac | poningru: you want to work on that? | 08:32 |
| poningru | sure | 08:32 |
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| asac | poningru: how familiar are you with packaging? | 08:33 |
| poningru | not much | 08:33 |
| poningru | and thats the prob | 08:33 |
| poningru | but learning | 08:33 |
| asac | i think, yes :) | 08:33 |
| poningru | I just need tons of practice | 08:33 |
| asac | not a thing to begin with I guess | 08:33 |
| asac | it would give tons of practice | 08:33 |
| asac | but might be an impossible task | 08:34 |
| asac | of course not impossible | 08:34 |
| asac | ... without much progress for long periods ;) | 08:34 |
| asac | what you could do is download firefox trunk code | 08:35 |
| poningru | hehe already have that | 08:35 |
| asac | and see if there is a configure switch for --enable-system-nspr --enable-system-nss and --enable-system-xul | 08:35 |
| asac | or something | 08:35 |
| poningru | yep know the switches too | 08:35 |
| asac | do they exist? | 08:36 |
| poningru | its on wiki.mozilla.org | 08:36 |
| poningru | yes | 08:36 |
| poningru | hold on | 08:36 |
| asac | have a link? | 08:36 |
| asac | did you check out trunk? | 08:37 |
| poningru | http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/xulrunner/config/mozconfig | 08:38 |
| poningru | asac: yeah I sync every once in a while | 08:39 |
| asac | what is that link ... thats just the xulrunner mozconfig :) | 08:39 |
| asac | ok | 08:40 |
| asac | what you can try to do is: | 08:40 |
| asac | build xulrunner :) | 08:40 |
| asac | in one directory | 08:40 |
| asac | from trunk | 08:40 |
| asac | then | 08:40 |
| asac | build firefox | 08:41 |
| asac | in a separate dir | 08:41 |
| asac | but use | 08:41 |
| asac | --disable-xul | 08:41 |
| asac | as well as | 08:41 |
| asac | --with-libxul-sdk=/PATH/TO/LIBXUL/SDK | 08:41 |
| asac | maybe you have to leave out --disable-xul | 08:42 |
| asac | if firefox builds and can be started and has no libxul on its own | 08:42 |
| asac | then we can go ahead | 08:42 |
| asac | and think about packaging | 08:42 |
| asac | /PATH/TO/LIBXUL/SDK -> i think xulrunner/dist/... should be it | 08:43 |
| asac | just play around :) | 08:43 |
| asac | poningru: all clear? | 08:43 |
| asac | you cann add those configure switches to .mozconfig for now | 08:44 |
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| asac | dfarning: hi | 08:44 |
| dfarning | asac | 08:44 |
| dfarning | hey how are you | 08:44 |
| asac | thanks :) fine. | 08:44 |
| asac | hope you are doing well too | 08:45 |
| dfarning | pretty good | 08:45 |
| asac | i just have a few questions about launchpad stuff | 08:45 |
| dfarning | sure | 08:45 |
| asac | actually ... is it possible to have some bzr archive associated with mozilla team | 08:45 |
| asac | or do we need a product for that | 08:45 |
| asac | 2 cases: | 08:45 |
| dfarning | yes it is. what do you have in mind | 08:46 |
| asac | 1. package maintenance | 08:46 |
| asac | 2. ubuntu extension project | 08:46 |
| dfarning | to add and maintain code? | 08:46 |
| asac | yes | 08:46 |
| asac | i want to have it hosted in launchpad | 08:47 |
| dfarning | git like branches;) | 08:47 |
| asac | yes ... but found that mainbranch can be hosted in launchpad | 08:47 |
| asac | don't know how | 08:47 |
| asac | actually i think that the extension development should be in its own project | 08:48 |
| asac | product | 08:48 |
| asac | (whats the lp difference) | 08:48 |
| dfarning | I was looking into something like the asac branch which is used to build packages | 08:48 |
| dfarning | then you can pull patches from other braches if they are good enough | 08:49 |
| asac | yes ... thats the idea for package maintenance | 08:49 |
| dfarning | products hold upstream bugs | 08:49 |
| asac | i think i will have to do that under the hood of core-devel-team | 08:49 |
| asac | yes ... but it would be something like apport | 08:49 |
| asac | which is a product as well | 08:49 |
| asac | its where upstream development happens | 08:50 |
| asac | as we will be upstream for that extensions | 08:50 |
| dfarning | what do you mean by extensions? | 08:50 |
| asac | like ... .xpi :) | 08:50 |
| asac | its about moving ubuntu specific patches | 08:50 |
| asac | to an extension | 08:50 |
| asac | since we have changes to codebase that are of no use upstream | 08:51 |
| dfarning | that sounds really smart | 08:51 |
| asac | so i want to move as much as possible out | 08:51 |
| dfarning | have you looked into it very much | 08:51 |
| asac | to reduce patchset | 08:51 |
| asac | yes | 08:51 |
| asac | i know how to do it | 08:51 |
| asac | but don't know how to setup the umbrella | 08:51 |
| dfarning | outstanding | 08:51 |
| asac | in launchpad | 08:51 |
| asac | it will be a feisty+1 thing | 08:51 |
| asac | but i have an initial extension for report bug ... menu entry now ... as a prototype | 08:52 |
| dfarning | the downsteam guy would love to be able to modify a couple of extensions to brand their firefox | 08:52 |
| asac | hmmm | 08:52 |
| asac | what you refer to is something different | 08:52 |
| asac | its about keeping differences to existing extensions | 08:52 |
| dfarning | how so? | 08:53 |
| asac | not? | 08:53 |
| asac | you mean downstream wants to develop extensions to brand firefox? | 08:53 |
| asac | vs. modify? | 08:53 |
| dfarning | they just want to be able branding easily | 08:53 |
| dfarning | don't really care how it get done | 08:54 |
| poningru | oh you mean like that | 08:54 |
| poningru | ok | 08:54 |
| poningru | asac: will work on that | 08:54 |
| asac | poningru: great | 08:54 |
| dfarning | poningru, seting up the bzr stuff too? ;) | 08:55 |
| poningru | oh blargh? | 08:55 |
| asac | :) | 08:55 |
| asac | dfarning: ok, will ask about it on ubuntu-devel i guess ... just thought you know how the bzr thing works in lp :) | 08:57 |
| dfarning | asac, poningru can you follow this you with an email to the list with some use cases | 08:57 |
| dfarning | asac, I have used it a few times ;) | 08:58 |
| dfarning | the bzr folks probobly have a better idea how to make this work for you | 08:59 |
| asac | poningru ment that he will work on trying how welll ffox builds on top of xulrunner for trunk :) | 08:59 |
| asac | yep ... i will ask there | 08:59 |
| poningru | hehe yeah :) | 08:59 |
| asac | dfarning: any ideas how we can make mozilla team more visible | 08:59 |
| asac | to potential new members | 08:59 |
| asac | e.g. team marketing? | 08:59 |
| dfarning | asac, are you ready for that? | 09:00 |
| asac | ready? | 09:00 |
| asac | for what? | 09:00 |
| dfarning | a hugh swarm of people | 09:00 |
| asac | i probably won't be able to teach them on packaging ... but i guess for bug triaging we already have enough know-how here in channel to get some economics of scale | 09:01 |
| asac | what would you do? | 09:01 |
| asac | at best we could find a way to attract tech people :) | 09:01 |
| dfarning | how ready are you for loco teams to develop customized version of firefox | 09:01 |
| dfarning | I can get jono to sell that to the loco team which will create a lot of visability | 09:02 |
| dfarning | but it would require some idea what stuff they will want to customize and how to do it | 09:03 |
| asac | what is loco? | 09:04 |
| dfarning | asac, localization teams | 09:04 |
| asac | customize? you have an example? | 09:04 |
| asac | ah | 09:04 |
| dfarning | they are providing custom distros in their local languages | 09:05 |
| dfarning | special homepages, searches ... | 09:05 |
| asac | ah ok | 09:06 |
| asac | that should be done in an extension as well i guess | 09:06 |
| dfarning | firefox is one of the package that the localizers are ignoring because no one could figure out how to do it correctly;) | 09:06 |
| asac | can you get someone here that can tell what info / infrastructure they need | 09:07 |
| asac | and how this relates to upstream translation effords | 09:07 |
| asac | e.g. locale packages | 09:07 |
| dfarning | We could get a lot of attention by asking what they want | 09:07 |
| dfarning | locale packages really only deal with strings i think | 09:08 |
| asac | what do they do to other packages (other than translating strings) | 09:09 |
| asac | ? | 09:09 |
| dfarning | Im not sure | 09:09 |
| dfarning | I will look into it | 09:09 |
| asac | great | 09:09 |
| asac | lets raise the mist that covers this topic | 09:09 |
| dfarning | any other assignments;) | 09:10 |
| asac | not atm :) | 09:10 |
| poningru | asac: damn | 09:11 |
| asac | what happened ;) | 09:11 |
| poningru | asac: ok so I have to talk to bsmedberg for guidance | 09:11 |
| poningru | cause all of this isnt documented yet | 09:11 |
| asac | maybe on his blog? | 09:12 |
| poningru | and biesi is saying if I do this I have to write a devmo article... | 09:12 |
| dfarning | summary 1 bzr for build and maintaining fx and extensions 2 figure out fx localizations needs 3 figure out if we can use lang packs | 09:12 |
| poningru | asac: naah will contact him through irc | 09:12 |
| poningru | asac: or do you mean for 'docs' | 09:13 |
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| asac | i mean for docs | 09:14 |
| asac | posted on blog | 09:14 |
| poningru | eek thats a lot of bzr | 09:14 |
| === poningru searches | ||
| asac | anyway | 09:15 |
| asac | the instructions should apply | 09:15 |
| asac | that i gave above | 09:15 |
| asac | what was the problem? | 09:15 |
| asac | you can just build xulrunner | 09:15 |
| asac | right? | 09:15 |
| asac | then use special configure switch (as above) so firefox uses xulrunner libxul | 09:16 |
| asac | instead of its own | 09:16 |
| poningru | well I havent started yet | 09:20 |
| poningru | I wanted to ask the guys before I started | 09:20 |
| asac | hmm ... he is pretty heavy load guy ... i would suggest to try first ... try second .. ask third :) | 09:30 |
| asac | but thats just me :) | 09:30 |
| poningru | hehe | 09:41 |
| poningru | asac: how come I have never seen you in moznet? | 09:41 |
| poningru | oh nm | 09:41 |
| asac | moznet? irc? | 09:42 |
| asac | i am in #developers | 09:43 |
| poningru | yeah hence the nm :p | 09:45 |
| poningru | come hang out with us dude | 09:46 |
| poningru | #hs | 09:46 |
| poningru | keep in mind hs is non coc all the way | 09:47 |
| poningru | we curse make crude jokes etc. | 09:47 |
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| asac | what is hs? | 09:48 |
| poningru | horse shit | 09:49 |
| poningru | bunch of us hang out there | 09:49 |
| poningru | and goof off | 09:49 |
| asac | ;) | 09:50 |
| Admiral_Chicago | hey all | 09:52 |
| Admiral_Chicago | network has been up and down all day | 09:52 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | i think its crashing right now | 09:57 |
| Admiral_Chicago | at an alarming rate... | 09:57 |
| poningru | rofl | 09:59 |
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| asac | poningru: now i am in :) | 10:32 |
| asac | will hardly contribute though :) | 10:32 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | my network is being very fickle today | 10:33 |
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