[12:29] In my minds, 'further address the problem' involves nukes from orbit, but apparently not everyone has those available. [12:29] s/minds/mind/ === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Burgwork] by ChanServ [12:33] lol PuMpErNiCkLe :) [12:33] PuMpErNiCkLe, We might find out in about 5 weeks when I test it ;) [12:34] ^___^ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ [12:38] nalioth, the guy disabled it so I unbanned him in #ubuntu :) [12:39] :) === PriceChild groans at the guy as he suggests I looked like a newb checking by playing around with !search to repeat it... === Vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-151.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops [01:06] In #ubuntuforums, Vorian said: !ops-#ubuntu-us is Help! atoponce, Zelut, meatball, Vorian [01:09] In ubotu, cables said: iso is also Burning Ubuntu .iso files from Windows: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto [01:10] !iso [01:10] To mount an ISO disc image, type sudo mount -o loop - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [01:10] !search burn [01:10] Found: burning, cdrw, burners, burn, burner, iso, burniso, k3b [01:11] PriceChild: never mind [01:11] aww go on please :) [01:12] oops! [01:13] it should be meatballhat, not meatball (for !ops in -us) [01:14] done [01:15] ty PriceChild :) [01:15] pfft nal's such a meanie :P [01:16] PriceChild: be careful what you wish for === PriceChild steps away quietly === SportChick trips PriceChild and holds him down for nalioth === PriceChild struggles [01:18] Not the soap!!! === SportChick duct tapes PriceChild to the train tracks and laughs evilly === PriceChild had no idea SportChick was actually evil.... [01:19] PriceChild: ;) === PriceChild decides he should have suspected it seen as she's staff [01:19] awwww === SportChick hugs PriceChild === PriceChild huggles SportChick [01:20] ;) === etank [n=etank@74-140-218-1.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-151.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] === beuno [n=martin@201-213-5-215.net.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === bkingx [n=bkingx@mail.hsgworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tonyyarusso] by ChanServ === etank [n=etank@74-140-129-0.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Veinor [i=8fc3ca2d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-f9a35c7e9996d113] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ [04:40] hmm [04:40] the do you speak french bot is back [04:40] in which channel? [04:41] yes, where? [04:56] "do you speak french bot"? what's that? [05:05] it messages loads of people asking if they speak french [05:05] however, I have a repsonse now [05:06] Mez: does it have a nick? [05:06] Leners... [05:18] haha [05:18] might be good if I actually laugh in the correct channel [05:18] but I guess your bot that wants to know if you speak French is kind of funny too === Veinor [i=8fc3ca2d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-d83e17cc3beefd2c] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:46] !tor | Veinor [05:46] Veinor: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. [05:47] Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks [05:48] Mez: how about /msg ubotu tell Veinor about tor? or just "hi Veinor /msg ubotu proxy" === Mez shies away [05:48] ..... way too much unnecessary !proxy and !tor spam in here [06:10] nalioth, why not make a #ubuntu-proxy-catcher (or similar) channel? [06:10] elkbuntu: i can see that happening. +m with a descriptive /topic and chanserv /onjoin message [06:11] yep [06:11] proxy and tor users don't need us to tell them [06:11] most of them are on auto pilot, anyway [06:11] nalioth, that's what we ended up doing with exploit victims === Veinor [i=8fc3ca2d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-1fd08e349b0d6b3b] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:43] !tor-gpg is You can use tor and still access #ubuntu and other channels that have tor blocked. How? Read http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor to find out how to bypass all the tor hassles on freenode. [06:43] I'll remember that, nalioth [06:44] nalioth, setting up -proxy-users now/ [06:44] ? [06:44] Madpilot: yes [06:45] tired of all the spam from our keyboard happy idlers [06:46] heh [06:46] !tor > nalioth === mneptok scampers away [06:46] rofl [06:47] brb. writing an irssi script ... >:) [06:48] bwahahahah! [06:49] * [Phaedrus] (i=cbc7d542@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-b5b4d75bfd322f31) has joined #ubuntu-proxy-users [06:49] <[Phaedrus] > hmm... guess, this is all we get for using bypassing proxies [06:50] should set that channel +m to prevent it from becoming "#ubuntu for the lazy" [06:51] mneptok: first thing i did. === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ [06:53] #ubuntu-proxy-users is set +mcntz and ubot3 is set for auto ops (as all ubuntu members are) so folks who enter can !get !factoids === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Mez] by ChanServ === stylus [n=stylus@tapthru/operator/stylus] has joined #ubuntu-ops === highvoltage [n=jaagaan@johannesleroux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-ops === popey [n=alan@ubuntu/member/popey] has left #ubuntu-ops [] === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v highvoltage] by ChanServ === highvoltage [n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v highvoltage] by ChanServ [08:39] In ubotu, firecrotch said: what is love === mneptok vogues [08:45] baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no no, what is love... lalalalla [08:47] if only i Haddaway to have a disco ball on IRC ;) === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-151.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:48] What's with all the d-lining going on in #ubuntu? [08:51] pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. the great and powerful oz has spoken. :) [08:52] mneptok, I'm just curious :) === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@colchester-lug/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:53] cables, it smelled like a bot - all those ppl joining at once with similar usernames [08:53] ah ok [08:53] and hostmasks [08:53] 88.22* === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-151.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === mneptok pours a bucket of lobsters and hate down Hobbsee's shirt [09:30] oh fun [09:30] thanks mneptok! === mneptok beams brightly === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:16] ooh, our turkish friends were back? [10:30] turks? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Seveas] by ChanServ === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ [03:44] how often does ubotu update his database? ubot3 hasn't gotten a factoid i entered last night in ubotu yet [03:45] nalioth, immediately [03:45] i've got a cron job updating hourly from the db [03:45] !tor-gpg [03:45] You can use tor and still access #ubuntu and other channels that have tor blocked. How? Read http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor to find out how to bypass all the tor hassles on freenode. [03:45] that one is still missing [03:46] then you didn't download the latest ubuntu.db [03:46] are yu using wget? [03:47] !tor-gpg [03:47] You can use tor and still access #ubuntu and other channels that have tor blocked. How? Read http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor to find out how to bypass all the tor hassles on freenode. [03:48] last update was 50 minutes ago, Seveas [03:48] if you use wget to download, make sure you say -O ubuntu.db [03:48] wget does not overwrite but will append .1 .2 .3 etc... [03:49] yeah, i think i got it set up correctly [03:49] probably not or you would have seen the factoid :) [03:50] we'll see in 5 minutes [03:51] @now [03:51] Current time in Etc/UTC: March 14 2007, 14:51:15 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 5 hours 8 minutes [04:03] Seveas: info from the db with the bot is read dynamically, right? [04:04] if so, why do you need to do a %reload Ency.. to get the factoids from the new .db in [04:05] apokryphos, good call [04:05] you'd probably need to do that since the filehandle will stay open [04:05] !tor-gpg [04:05] You can use tor and still access #ubuntu and other channels that have tor blocked. How? Read http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor to find out how to bypass all the tor hassles on freenode. [04:05] what was ubot3's character? [04:05] ^tor-gpg [04:06] ~tor-gpg [04:06] You can use tor and still access #ubuntu and other channels that have tor blocked. How? Read http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor to find out how to bypass all the tor hassles on freenode. [04:06] it does have it now though [04:06] we did a reload now [04:06] ah [04:06] I'll add a %reopendatabase command [04:06] nice, thanks [04:07] do you have any local modifications besides the global vs per-channel calling character? [04:07] I don't think so [04:07] and wait, that %command will leave the database open, right? You wouldn't have to call it every time you replace the .db file? [04:08] you will need to call it whenever you replace the db, *because* it leaves the filehandle open [04:09] is it really any more useful than just %reload then? [04:10] not really [04:10] I'll just make sure all dbs are reloaded every hour [04:10] is that by manually invoking them to or with something in the bot? [04:10] bot attack in #ubuntu [04:14] all the bots are in -unregged [04:14] +J must've got most of them :P [04:14] hehe [04:14] nalioth: join to k/d line =) === etank [n=etank@74-140-129-0.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ === wolferine [n=pdeighan@S01060016b6197cf9.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:33] can I talk with an op pls? [05:34] Hey wolferine how can i help? [05:34] hey Pricechild [05:34] Mooh. [05:34] I feel I was +k/+b from #ubuntu unnecessarily === PriceChild checks ban tracker === ikonia_ [n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:36] Price? [05:36] Hey wolferine you'd best wait for Seveas :) [05:36] @btlogin [05:36] no need to [05:36] apokryphos, broken i think [05:36] he already talked to me in pm [05:37] PriceChild, what's broken? [05:37] PriceChild: did you get the email to the irc mailing list? we made you your very own channel [05:37] bantracker [05:37] nalioth, hehe I'm already in ;) [05:37] Seveas, just giving a database error :( [05:37] err.... that's NOT good [05:37] Seveas, ill wait for someone else thanks [05:37] * Mordicu1 (n=ivan@APuteaux-154-1-8-235.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #ubuntu [05:37] * You have left channel #ubuntu (requested by Seveas: "try behaving next time") [05:37] Seveas, I lastlog'd though to see what happenned [05:37] wolferine: we all can see what happened, please don't paste [05:37] what about pm === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Seveas] by ChanServ [05:38] ill paste pm if necessary [05:38] wolferine, we all have the log don't worry :) [05:38] hmmm [05:38] pfeww, just the site being broken, not the tracker [05:38] is BT an open applicationor something you guys put togther [05:38] ikonia_, both [05:38] spelling - "application" [05:39] really, could I take a look at it, a project I work on may benifit from it [05:39] not the ubuntu one - at one thats available [05:39] it sounds reasonably useful [05:39] ikonia_, "application or" - missed the space [05:39] so, what can I do for you atm? [05:40] or is this something that must wait? [05:40] my typing is terrible in general - but megaweak today === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ [05:41] Seveas, how have I personally attacked you? [05:42] PriceChild, is there anything else you need from me? [05:43] wolferine, please be patient :) [05:43] is there a page on the ubuntu project or say sourceforge etc that has detail of the BT application ? [05:44] hrmpf.... something odd is going on [05:44] ikonia_: it's a supybot plugin; see http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl [05:44] the db file exists [05:44] thank you [05:44] and is readable by www-data [05:44] so why the F* do I get that error... [05:44] RIGHT [05:44] you also need to make code/ accessible :P [05:44] it cannot create it's cache.. [05:46] bantracker is back [05:47] wooo... so back to wolferine.... [05:47] apokryphos, it is accessible, mod_autoindex just was disabled and index.html was called indx.html [05:48] it still worked with bzr though :) [05:48] heh [05:48] yeah I know [05:50] nearly 90,000 people registered in Launchpad; wow. [05:50] nearly 100.000 bugs [05:50] :) [05:50] * 900,000 [05:51] given that an estimated 8 million people USE ubuntu, 900.000 is pretty impressive (ok, not all of them are ubuntu users but still) [05:51] for users, that's way, way more than I thought [05:52] yeah, definitely [05:52] I'm not sure how exaggerated that figure is (ubuntu users( [05:54] sabdfl has access to webserver logs [05:55] and since security.u.c isn't mirrored, that should give a reasonable count [05:56] he says 6-8 million though, right? Quite a gap === ardchoille [n=Ian@unaffiliated/ardchoille42] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:57] I feel that some of the ops really need to use a little more tact in #ubuntu when dealing with people. [05:57] I feel it isn't good to treat people like a child in the channel. [05:58] I feel the oposite [05:58] so its horses for courses [05:58] I just got yelled at for a very minor thing.. when other people do major things and get away with it. [05:58] really what was the minor thing ? [05:58] offtopic chatter [05:59] From now on, when I feel like I have been treated badly, I will put the offending op on temp ignore. PM is the place to take berating.. praise in public, reprimand in private. [05:59] ardchoille, other people were just lucky for being there with no active op arund [05:59] I guess you have to consider the fact that this happens every day every 20 minutes === ardchoille [n=Ian@unaffiliated/ardchoille42] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Parting"] [05:59] so its nice to have firm ops [05:59] or the channel gets ruined [05:59] /cs k ikonia_ hehe ;) [05:59] cs ? [05:59] Price? [06:00] jenda, I thought *!*@freenode/staff/* in the access list meant that all freenode staffers (who can op anywhere anyway) are welocme to help out [06:00] am I wrong there? [06:00] mind filling my in? [06:00] me* [06:00] Seveas: no, you're correct [06:00] Seveas: except, I don't have the staff cloak. [06:00] jenda, you still can op anywhere right? [06:00] Hey wolferine.... I'm sorry I don't feel comfortable dealing with this myself... you're going to have to wait for the easily distracted Seveas. [06:00] Seveas: err, not exactly... ;) [06:01] Seveas: or, not yet, at least [06:01] ahhhhh [06:01] wait, for what exactly? [06:01] jenda, has no powahs [06:01] Seveas: 1st-level don't get the privs [06:01] apokryphos: sshhh [06:01] you have read the channel/pm logs [06:01] jenda, then get promoted ffs :p [06:01] have you now? [06:01] jenda has been a bad boy (not followed instructions) [06:01] Seveas: :-D [06:01] not* [06:02] nalioth is being a bad boy - I did follow the instructions ;) [06:02] wolferine, Yes I've read the channel logs. But I don't want to interfere with another ops ban. [06:02] jenda, do non-first-level staffers have to wear the freenode/staff cloak? [06:02] well, who will step up to the plate? [06:02] Seveas, no, they don't "have" to wear it [06:02] I think being patient is part of the lesson [06:02] Seveas: I don't think they _have_ to... [06:02] Seveas, was not justified in the k/b set on me in #ubuntu [06:02] Seveas: first-level staff usually don't wear a staff cloak [06:03] who can I talk to about dealing with this? === PriceChild pokes Seveas === ikonia_ straps in the for show [06:03] wolferine, to the ops in here. You were heared and nobody is doing anything about it [06:03] your speaking on all their behalf? [06:04] wolferine, no, I'm just stating what I observe [06:04] can someone kick totall_6_7 in #ubuntu please [06:04] he's just saying "yes it s" [06:04] Seveas, now that your speaking with me [06:04] wolferine: most bans last only a few hours. [06:04] how did I personally attack you? [06:05] nalioth, that isnt the point really [06:05] Seveas, how did I? [06:05] wolferine, ... [06:05] wolferine, I think its best that you drop it for now and calm down to return in an hour or so. [06:05] he has no answer [06:05] PriceChild be quiet - this could be good [06:05] im not suprised [06:05] ;) === ikonia_ touts ringside seats [06:05] wolferine: this seems like a PM issue === Seeker`_ [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:06] it WAS a pm issue [06:06] now i have brought this abuse to you all [06:06] as your "ops" === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` [06:06] you are* === ikonia_ listens for lessons on how to win an argument [06:06] wolferine, and a as a team I think we would prefer you to come back in an hour.... things are too heated immediately after the incident. [06:07] abuse of power, once you let one do it, doesn't stop anyone else from doing it [06:07] Seveas has yet to reply to my questions [06:07] I think thats on purpose [06:07] wolferine, I replied to them [06:07] lack of a response == incorrect [06:07] you just keep repeating [06:08] Seveas, how did I personally attack you (awaiting your response) [06:08] you just keep repeating [06:08] you just keep repeating [06:08] you just keep repeating [06:08] etc... [06:08] immature [06:08] u made the decision, now you cannot answer me? [06:08] well? [06:08] wolferine, Arguing your point now in the fashion you are using will not help you. Please please just drop it and return in an hout or so. === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b %wolferine!*@*] by nalioth === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-b %wolferine!*@*] by nalioth [06:23] Seveas, nothing to say for yourself? [06:24] wolferine: please drop it. [06:24] what about you nalioth , you read the logs? [06:24] wolferine, only that this behaviour does not make me want to remove that ban [06:24] much worse? === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:25] abuse should not be tolerated [06:25] thats whats worse [06:25] indeed, that's why I'm not removing the ban [06:25] which you set for what reason Seveas ? [06:25] you just chose the questions you want to answer, I see [06:25] wolferine, That message was sent in a private notice :( [06:25] wolferine: i have. your ban will lift in time [06:26] nalioth, do you feel he was justified in banning me? [06:26] wolferine: i do. [06:26] i personally threatened him? [06:26] (since that was the reason for the ban) [06:27] can you paste where this occurred? [06:27] I'd really drop it. Your argument looks soooooooooo weak [06:27] ikonia, thats your opinion [06:27] yup [06:28] ikonia, do you feel he was justified in placing the ban, as well? [06:28] wolferine: you've been banned. your ban will lift in time. please discuss this with seveas elsewhere, as it seems to be a personal issue [06:28] thats not my place to say [06:28] really, but you have an opinion about this all, so is it your place to voice it, do you think? [06:29] no [06:29] hmmm [06:29] well, i dont think ill stick around [06:29] my opinion is not part of ubuntu policy. If I have a request to make I'll make one [06:29] thought this channel was different [06:29] but obviously its not [06:29] thanks for your "support" [06:29] bye === ikonia_ waits for offensive leaving comment [06:30] have a been offensive? [06:30] ikonia_, heh, you've been on IRC too long ;) [06:30] ;) [06:30] wolferine no, not offensive [06:30] a tad petulent - perhaps [06:30] well, then, my request to remove the ban is justified [06:31] wolferine, ikonia_ is not part of the ubuntu-irc team [06:31] I dont' think thats the right spelling [06:31] no - I'm not [06:31] i have, in this entire conversation, the pms, and my chat in #ubuntu, not been offensive [06:31] ikonia_, spelling is correct :) [06:31] hence why my opinion is not important [06:31] not offensive == ban doesnt need to be there [06:32] i guess thats a bit too obvious [06:32] that's not true at all [06:32] just too bad some ppl cannot "see" that === ikonia_ watches the ice on the polar ice caps lose the title of "weakest ground ever" [06:32] Seveas, when did I personally attack you? [06:32] as you stated in your pm [06:32] hmm, that tape seems stuck === qmario_ [n=QMario@cpe-70-116-124-115.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Ubuntu-ops === nalioth looks for elkbuntu [06:33] well? [06:33] nalioth, I think she is sleeping [06:33] Seveas, ill wait for someone else thanks <-- how is that offensive? [06:33] wolferine: you were leaving . . . [06:33] ha ha ha ha [06:34] Seveas, how is it offensive? [06:34] I thought this channel was different, guess its not etc etc etc.......... === wolferine [n=pdeighan@unaffiliated/wolferine] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] [06:34] surly you don't want to hang around [06:34] ikonia_, don't forget the "Do you think it was justified?" [06:35] I did say "etc etc" [06:35] true === wolferines [n=username@unaffiliated/wolferine] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:35] standard issue comments etc [06:35] well, ill just post this all on the webboards I guess [06:35] wolferines: please stop this. [06:35] what an interesting opinion, I can see people not understanding or agreeing on their ban [06:35] so others will get the "support" they need [06:35] but the argument is weak [06:36] weak? [06:36] wolferines: do as you please [06:36] ikonia_, standard issue troll [06:36] abuse of power [06:36] wolferines, That's threatening us now. [06:36] thats not week [06:36] Seveas yes, I did think that earlier [06:36] and ban evading a non existent ban, too :D [06:36] Seveas: all, you have to do, is explain your actions [06:36] by answering one question [06:36] nalioth, in #ubuntu he was evading [06:36] and I wouldnt have had to go on and on and on [06:37] Seveas: you didn't notice the nick change in here? [06:37] but you didnt reply [06:37] wolferines, fix your irc client. It seems to be repeating the same question over and over, despite answers [06:37] either that or he didn't care [06:37] wolferines: go post to your boards [06:37] nalioth, he has 2 clients === wolferines [n=username@unaffiliated/wolferine] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === wolferines [n=username@unaffiliated/wolferine] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:37] one cloaked, one not [06:37] Seveas: i have two cloaked hosts === ikonia_ hammers refresh on "the boards" [06:37] which is a requirement of the network [06:38] oooooh dear [06:38] bbl, dinner time [06:38] yeah [06:38] walk away [06:38] wolferines please go elsewhere [06:38] personal request [06:38] hmmm [06:39] not until he answers === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b wolferin*!*@*] by nalioth [06:39] well that solves that === wolferines [n=username@unaffiliated/wolferine] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] [06:39] some peoples kids . . . [06:40] nalioth I think that was the key there - "kids" [06:42] nalioth, he's now going to all the channels I'm in [06:43] we can fix that [06:43] Seveas I can't see him in any of the others [06:43] ahhh yes I can [06:43] just get a staffer to ban him from the network [06:43] that will wipe the smile off his face [06:44] darn [06:44] he hit a bug in chanserv.py :) === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:47] K-lined... [06:50] ikonia_: you've got several staff members in this channel [06:50] sorry nalioth wasn't aware of that [06:50] so I see [06:50] just wanted to do it officially so it was logged, as its just poinltess letting people like that on the network [06:53] ikonia_: it was officially noticed :) [06:53] Seveas, we might as well undo the bans on wolferine right? Its only taking up space in the lists now? [06:53] thank you [06:53] PriceChild: k-lines are generally 24 hours [06:54] brb === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Seveas] by ChanServ [06:54] apokryphos to be fair - that not long enough, he just shouldn't be part of the community (freenode in general) [06:55] ikonia_: understood. [06:55] ikonia_: perhaps (i know, i'm reaching here) his vacation will give him time to think [06:55] everyone has flaws, and I agree with the "vaction" but you just wonder - why bother [06:56] ikonia_, but people deserve a second chance [06:56] totally [06:56] I didn't mean to imply that [06:56] apokryphos, ah I didn't know that [06:56] but there is a difference between not understanding the problem/disagreeing with it and just being obtuse [06:57] You learn something new every day :) [06:57] hehe... Kline a vacation :D [06:57] vaKation [06:58] lol [07:02] I need a vacation === nalioth points mc44 to the "Professor Wolferines Crash Course in How to take a vacation" [07:03] nalioth: damn i missed that === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@colchester-lug/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Seeker` [n=cjo20@82-133-64-183.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ops === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v ompaul] by ChanServ [07:41] ARGH ffs [07:41] Seveas, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=384472 [07:42] PriceChild: nothing you can't handle :P [07:43] PriceChild: why are you posting URLs i can't access? [07:43] I've just jailed it so you won't be able to see it anymore sorry.... [07:43] [07:43] wolferine posted a log of the chat with seveas [07:43] link? [07:43] complaining about irc being rubbish [07:43] hah === PriceChild unjails for a short time [07:43] PriceChild, ah, that explains why I can't see it :) [07:43] one second... [07:44] ok link works again [07:44] I'll jail it as soon as you've looked :) [07:44] looked [07:45] I'm more surprised by the person suggesting to go to the CC [07:45] a lot of people don't have much of a clue about the CC [07:45] He's just got my msn addy and is threatening that he'll keep reposting it.... [07:45] "he kicked me" "no he did it first!" "ok, let's go to the cc" [07:45] PriceChild: ban him ;) === PriceChild fires up the ip search [07:46] PriceChild: do you want to go on record there about his 'network spamming' and 'stalking' behaviour? [07:47] hehe "want" isn't the word, but I'll go on record about the spamming in many channels and stalking me onto forums and msn [07:47] and it seems he's repeating the same behaviour on the forums? [07:48] Yeah [07:48] thank god he boasted about it to me on msn so I caught it almost immediately :) [07:49] To be honest I don't think he should have originally been banned, seeing that log. Needless to say his behaviour after is completely unjustifiable [07:49] This was until I found one person: Severas. [07:49] :P [07:49] apokryphos, we don't know what went on in PM though... and that's why I don't want to comment on anything previous. [07:50] that was a PM? [07:50] looks line in-channel; ubotu response etc [07:50] apokryphos, there was something in pm with Sev [07:50] before the ban? [07:51] that was a "partial" channel log [07:51] and i'm sure it was a "partial" PM log [07:52] apokryphos, I haven't a clue... and that's why I'm not gonna say anything based on the earlier events :) [07:52] anyhow, I'm out for tonight; see ya'll [07:53] I'm really glad in a way that I am not a Op, means I can watch and not let this stuff get to me personally [07:54] GazzaK, you should be glad [07:54] some go as far as making phonecalls [07:55] Its rewarding occasionally :) [07:55] it still winds me up though, you folks are here to basically help "users" get help, and these "people" do more damage than I think they realise... [07:55] PriceChild, *very* occasionaly [07:55] GazzaK: we are all really glad you're not an op too [07:56] Seveas, not sucking up or anything, but you do know that a lot of us are glad there are people like you, nali oth Price Child etc etc [07:56] mc44, shh :p [07:56] whoa I'm on the same level as Sev & nal :P [07:56] GazzaK: stop sucking up [07:57] GazzaK, sure you don't wanna re-word that? ;) [07:57] erm, no [07:58] bah this guy's being boring and hasn't re-posted or re-registered :( [07:58] PriceChild, heh [07:58] I sit here and see stuff which if it were my job to sort out, might very well end up annoying me so much I'd maybe be tempted to walk away. [07:59] GazzaK, I'd say that's the best decision if its going to annoy you :) [07:59] GazzaK: you know they dont appreciate your compliments. Seveas feeds on anger :) [07:59] dunno really, vice versa we get some right funny trolls in #gaygeeks and they amuse me [07:59] lol [08:00] I love a good troll, we get good trolls on barryboys.co.uk too, normally on a friday, after school kicking out time, they are funny too, but sadly the decent trolls are few and far between [08:01] GazzaK, its the borderlines that aren't fun === Seeker` [n=cjo20@82-133-64-183.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:03] Seveas, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2298060#post2298060 [08:05] PriceChild: should i post on that thread ? [08:05] PriceChild, ah, he's working his way to a forum ban :) [08:06] Hehe :) [08:06] nalioth, nah, even I dare to post in the RC [08:06] I just messaged u-g an explanation of what's been going on :) [08:06] Plus a request that "find all users posts" doesn't miss out the RC - grrr :P === montgoej [n=Jordan@dialup-4.225.2.173.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:19] wooo RC threads get indexed now :D [08:36] Woo i think he's given up on msn'ing me [08:36] how about forums? [08:37] No duplicate accounts, no reposts... and I think he's given up on arguing in the RC [08:37] PriceChild: why can't i post on that thread? [08:37] for the time being... :) [08:37] nalioth, The Resolution Centre rules: [08:37] 3. The administration staff and the thread starter will converse, other forum members posts/comments will be removed/edited out. [08:38] well, being on the Ubuntu IRC council (and a freenode staffer) i think i have something to add. [08:38] If I were you I'd pm ubuntu-geek asking for permission first... but I don't think ubuntu-geek wants to give the guy any time... he's on our side. [08:39] Then again... I'm not you.... your choice :) [08:41] I doubt he'll mind you adding your point... but it seems a waste of time. He doesn't really warrant lots of attention really? [08:41] yup === Seeker` [n=cjo20@82-133-64-183.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ops === LjL [n=ljl@unaffiliated/ljl] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v LjL] by ChanServ [09:05] Hey... why's there someone opped in -offtopic ? [09:06] don't know [09:06] but they're not any more [09:06] how rare :) [09:11] hehe, did someone leave him op'ed? [09:12] GazzaK, what was it from? [09:12] no idea, past my chat history! [09:13] I scrolled up and did nto see when he was opppped [09:13] oops, alcohol-typo, sorry [09:13] 3 beers and you're out GazzaK ;) [09:13] erm, one so far, hic [09:13] I don't drink (much) === PriceChild wonders why people are joining -unregged without a +J or +r in #ubuntu [09:26] there is a +J === PriceChild looks closer [09:29] /cs info doesn't show it... and xchat doesnt' show it either...? [09:29] --- Channel #ubuntu modes: +tncLfJ #ubuntu-unregged 3,4 [09:29] PriceChild, try /mode #ubuntu [09:29] chat gets confused sometimes [09:29] Ahhh now xchat shows it :) [09:29] Thankies :) [09:43] guys, just a quick note to say "thanks" for the !goodbotuse factiod - so many more people are using it now and it makes the channel %101 better [09:46] !goodbotuse [09:46] goodbotuse is please do "!factoid > user" see here: for more details: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/goodbotuse === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v nalioth] by ChanServ [09:50] apokryphos, nalioth: bzr trunk of ubotu now has per-channel prefixchar and reconnects to the database hourly [09:52] Seveas: ya lost me [09:53] nalioth, I fixed what you fixed locally to make ubotu not respond in here and I fixed the problem where new factoids don't show up [09:54] and it's all on bots.ubutnulinux.nl/code === ubot3 [n=ubot3@unaffiliated/nalioth/bot/ubot3] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:54] ok === jgw [n=jgw@c-67-171-229-119.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:09] jgw, did you say ubuntu or ubotu sorry? [10:10] ubuntu [10:10] ah... [10:10] sorry misread... I think the only place for that is a "bug" on launchpad [10:10] there are a bunch of entries in fortune which are racist and generally just seem way un-ubuntu [10:10] eg. mexican jokes, black jokes, etc === beuno [n=martin@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:11] gah... launchpad is offline [10:11] jgw, that's only with the -o flag and you need some non-standard packages that include them [10:11] one of our hispanic students had the following fortune crop up: [10:11] Q: Why is it that Mexico isn't sending anyone to the '84 summer games? [10:11] A: Anyone in Mexico who can run, swim or jump is already in LA. [10:12] I don't find that racist [10:12] personally [10:12] it is [10:12] well it is [10:12] ikonia: it is. [10:12] fair enough === PriceChild realises its just beta launchpad offline [10:12] but you have to install factoids labeled as offensive and use a special flag to fortune to see them [10:12] ikonia: in America, it is highly offensive to people of mexican heritage [10:12] so I don't consider it a bug [10:13] fair enough [10:13] we didnt install anything special, we installed the default ubuntu load [10:13] Beware of a tall black man with one blond shoe. [10:13] I've just done a while loop and grepped for mexican - still nothing from fotrune [10:14] i'm not one for political correctness, but what purpose do these serve? and if you answer "entertainment", i ask "to what people?" [10:14] where do you draw the line though - thats not for me to say [10:14] there is a line about a salemen lying - is that offensive to all salesman ? [10:15] yeah, i can't find the mexican one either [10:15] Anyway jgw, this isn't really the correct channel, I just misread before I directed you here. I think the correct course of action would be to file a buy on launchpad.net under the fortun package. [10:15] the black man one is there, though [10:15] my while look is going - still no mexican grep returns [10:15] s/look/loop [10:15] s/buy/bug/ [10:15] LjL: i'm not lying, this is a default ubuntu install [10:15] 6.10 [10:15] ikonia, /usr/share/games/fortunes/riddles [10:16] which is from fortunes-min [10:16] you're right, it's in riddles [10:16] which is in the default install [10:16] now that IS a bug [10:16] ahhhh yes [10:16] well spotted [10:16] easier than a while loop [10:16] the mexican joke is in riddles [10:16] jgw, http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fortune-mod/+filebug [10:17] Q: What's tan and black and looks great on a lawyer? [10:17] A: A doberman. [10:17] is that offensive to lawyers ? [10:17] stereotyping etc [10:17] yeah, but that's a good thing. === LjL runs [10:17] ha ha ha [10:18] I can't see any about black men [10:18] anyway, if you find that offensive, so sue me. hm, no, wait... [10:18] /sue LjL [10:18] touch'e [10:18] excellent pun [10:18] fortunes:Beware of a tall black man with one blond shoe. [10:18] fortunes.u8:Beware of a tall black man with one blond shoe. [10:18] cat /usr/share/games/fortunes/fortunes | grep black [10:18] I think ubuntu base install should abide by the CoC in anycase [10:19] and that includes being respectful to lawyers [10:19] do lawyers fall under 'people' then? [10:19] just === mc44 huggles jenda [10:20] hehe [10:21] heheh [10:21] :) [10:22] jenda definitely isn't people though [10:22] well, certainly not, but I tend to fall under them quite often... [10:24] ok, we need Ubuntu Offensive Edition, it's decided [10:24] with its own fusplash [10:25] why is there anything *else* than usplash that the various editions change? :P [10:25] LjL: I think mneptok should take care of that... === PuMpErNiCkLe [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PuMpErNiCkLe] by ChanServ [10:27] jenda, mneptok as gdm background... [10:27] that should scare [10:27] hehe [10:27] i'm all for Ubuntu Offensive Edition, it just shouldnt be installed be default [10:28] especially when ubuntu seems to be pushing itself into education [10:28] jgw, I agree - did you file that bug already? [10:28] Seveas: almost done [10:28] great [10:29] site is slow [10:29] jgw, yeah they're just doing something to the beta side of it.... :P [10:30] bug 92353 [10:30] Malone bug 92353 in fortune-mod "fortune in the default Ubuntu install contains racist terms" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92353 [10:30] Malone bug 92353 in fortune-mod "fortune in the default Ubuntu install contains racist terms" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92353 [10:30] as well as ubot3 bug :P [10:33] heh [10:33] nalioth, can you please disable ubot3s bugsnarfer in here? === ubot3 [n=ubot3@unaffiliated/nalioth/bot/ubot3] has left #ubuntu-ops ["nalioth"] [10:35] sure [10:37] heh [10:38] ubot3 can stay :) [10:41] idk how to turn off the bugthing [10:48] ~config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer false [10:48] (assuming ~ is commandchar) [10:49] to do for any channel from another channel: [10:49] ~config channel #somechan plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer false === ubot3 [n=ubot3@unaffiliated/nalioth/bot/ubot3] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:53] so what about bug 1 [10:53] Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [10:54] why does it always show it as a bug in ichthux anyway? [10:55] i is the first in the alphabet of the two? [10:55] because launchpad is silly [10:57] ichtux has it on higher priority [10:58] what, God mode? :p [10:58] mouarf === ubot3 [n=ubot3@unaffiliated/nalioth/bot/ubot3] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:58] LjL, just lost your dinner? [10:59] ^moo === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v nalioth] by ChanServ [10:59] ~config channel plugins.encyclopedia.prefixchar [10:59] well, no, mouarf it just a french exclamation of laughter :P [10:59] heh [11:00] Seveas: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:00] ^config channel plugins.encyclopedia.prefixchar [11:00] Seveas: ~ [11:00] ah [11:00] !~bot [11:00] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [11:00] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~bot [11:00] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [11:00] perhaps !^W~bot :P [11:01] ~ping [11:01] pong [11:01] !bot [11:01] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [11:01] stupid bot stayed connected [11:01] no [11:01] it was disconnected as well [11:02] <-- ubot3 has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) [11:02] ichtux has it on higher priority [11:02] <-- nalioth has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [11:02] !test | ~test [11:02] ~test: Failed. [11:02] Factoid test: failed. not found === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o LjL] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o LjL] by LjL [11:05] i'm tempted to try something akin to !test | ~test | !test | ~test | !test | ~test | !test | ~test === PuMpErNiCkLe [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PuMpErNiCkLe] by ChanServ [11:11] In #ubuntu-bugs, bdmurray said: !importance is You can learn about setting bug importance at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance [11:13] !importance-#ubuntu-bugs is You can learn about setting bug importance at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance [11:13] I'll remember that, LjL [11:17] %moderators [11:17] Seveas, gnomefreak, apokryphos, Hobbsee, nalioth [11:17] does either of you know bdmurray? [11:17] (or does anyone else know him?) [11:17] don't know him [11:18] or her === PriceChild wonders what %moderators are... [11:19] those who can add %editors [11:19] ahh ty :) [11:19] PriceChild: don't you have moderators on the forum? [11:19] well it's a bit different i suppose... [11:19] nalioth, but we don't get to add editors :P [11:19] now go away :P [11:21] tss [11:21] don't you dare scare nalioth [11:21] he has K-line powah === PriceChild hides [11:23] Seveas: does PriceChild have a picture of mneptok or something? [11:23] @lart 37 PriceChild === Ubugtu shows PriceChild a photo of mneptok: http://tinyurl.com/yv5q8h [11:23] now he has [11:24] 0.0 [11:24] watch out PuMpErNiCkLe ;) [11:24] any ops of #ubuntu-it in here? [11:24] mneptok is the new goatse/tubgirl [11:25] +R? [11:25] LjL: are you active? [11:25] nalioth: i'm not an op [11:25] Seveas, does that mean a ban on sight? [11:25] LjL: you point out the clones, and i'll whack 'em [11:25] just joined out of curiosity, i don't usually even join === emet [n=emet@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #ubuntu-ops [11:25] hey [11:25] LjL isnt really in Italy, its a hoax [11:25] how do I get an ubuntu cloak? [11:25] !member | emet [11:25] emet: Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember [11:25] and mc44 isn't a londoner, he's a polyphonic synthesizer [11:25] emet, only ubuntu members can get those [11:26] LjL: there's been a real clone problem in #ubuntu-it-chat over the last few minutes [11:26] LjL: clone or zombie [11:27] well I run the FAU Linux User Group @ http://linux.fau.edu [11:28] that doesn't make you ubuntu member :) [11:28] :(\ [11:28] I guess I will try harder / do more ubuntu related things! [11:29] that's always a good idea! :) [11:29] nasty zombies [11:30] nalioth, are the clones partying on -it-unregged or something akin now? [11:30] *yawn* [11:30] LjL: none of the channels is +r [11:30] /me is a bit tipsy and it's way too late to be awake [11:30] ah right nm, it's +R that's set [11:32] nalioth: hm, they're quite hard to spot. some of them actually clone, but others don't. i can see that a couple of the folks who quit now had 2 actual clones... but 2 at most [11:32] Oh btw... wrt !proxy.... the ircatwork.com cloak takes preference over a cloak... so people can't get cloaked by a staffer then join #ubuntu :( [11:32] LjL: those were all clones/zombies [11:33] PriceChild: ANY unaffiliated cloak is overridden by a gateway/* cloak [11:33] nalioth: i have no doubt... but before seeing them quit all together, i could hardly know [11:33] LjL: i didn't, either, but i did when they quit en masse :D [11:33] nalioth, so what's the point in having it in !proxy that they could get cloaked instead? :( [11:34] PriceChild: because the cloaks are overridden by the gateway/* masks [11:34] project cloaks are not overridden [11:34] idents and realnames also make sense, so they're even harder to spot. were they spamming anyway? [11:34] PriceChild: it is designed so that unaf cloaks cannot be used to spoof your tor or cgi usage [11:34] LjL: yes [11:35] nalioth, So the only thing we should suggest to people in -proxy-users is to connect using a real irc connection?/ [11:35] PriceChild: that is the best option [11:35] Ok thanks :) [11:35] PriceChild: other options are listed in the /topic [11:35] well... signed tor works in #ubuntu, doesn't it? [11:36] LjL: yes, gpg-tor is welcomed in #ubuntu (and is mentioned in the topic) [11:36] Ok sorted [11:36] jenda, ^ [11:58] can I register my LUG with Ubuntu? [12:00] ? [12:03] what is a "soca" [12:20] emet, souther california? [12:20] although that's usually socal :) [12:20] lol [12:20] no the Ubuntu specific groups [12:21] no idea [12:21] where did you read about it? [12:22] LoCo