[12:01] <Slart> VeganChick: I'll take a quick guess and say yes
[12:01] <arrenlex> VeganChick: Yep
[12:01] <bruenig> amd works too
[12:01] <VeganChick> Would it cause problems for my mac if I have Ubuntu partitioned alongside OSX?
[12:01] <Slart> VeganChick: I think they work a bit more on the intel specifics because there are more intels out there.. I don't think there is a physical hardware reason for it to be faster.. but I'm no expert on ppc's
[12:01] <PriceChild> VeganChick, nope
[12:02] <PriceChild> !pm > Evil_`
[12:02] <IdleOne> !dualboot | VeganChick
[12:02] <ubotu> VeganChick: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:02] <oskude> ctrl_x, sorry, i gotta go. good luck!
[12:02] <VeganChick> so Ubuntu isn't going to crash and take out my whole system? lol
[12:02] <Evil_`> You pm'd me first :(
[12:02] <ctrl_x> oskude, Ok thanx bye
[12:02] <Slart> VeganChick: it might..  you don't get any guarantees like that from Apple or microsoft either =)
[12:03] <IdleOne> VeganChick, could but shouldnt
[12:03] <colbert> I keep clicking empty trash but my trash won't empty... can some1 help ??
[12:03] <VeganChick> hmm, i don't think i have anything terribly important on my mac to start with
[12:04] <VeganChick> might save me some work...and i'll be happier working on my macbook than this old ibook
[12:04] <ioerror> I want to preseed a value in /etc/apt/apt.conf - does anyone know the proper way to do this? I'm not sure of the preseed directive
[12:04] <Slart> VeganChick: then you should be alright.. give it a try and next time someone asks you'll be able to answer =)
[12:04] <mzfckr> damn, im owned :D
[12:04] <mikeeeeeee> can someone help me compile something from source
[12:04] <mzfckr> nvidia drivers sux
[12:04] <wolferine> not really
[12:05] <wolferine> they are better than ATI
[12:05] <wharf> Hi there
[12:05] <VeganChick> haha. i'll ask my dad if it's ok with him, he bought me the computer...haha
[12:05] <arrenlex> mzfckr: What planet are you from?
[12:05] <mzfckr> i did like in manual
[12:05] <arrenlex> !compile > mikeeeeeee
[12:05] <mzfckr> a ubuntu is not booting in gnome
[12:05] <chalmer> How do i change my desktop res.?
[12:05] <wharf> Can anyone here please help me with Beryl and XGL please
[12:05] <PriceChild> wharf, > #ubuntu-effects
[12:05] <arrenlex> !beryl > wharf
[12:05] <N3WB> "Failed to start the X Server" (Graphic Card: nVidia Geforce 8800 GTS) how to i fix this error?
[12:06] <mikeeeeeee> thanks arrenlex
[12:06] <PriceChild> N3WB, that card is ridiculously new and I want it. Anyway.... you will have to install different drivers
[12:06] <PriceChild> !nvidia9 | N3WB
[12:06] <chalmer> how do i change my desktop res. ?
[12:06] <ubotu> N3WB: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[12:06] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys - when i type in iwconfig eth 1 I get this: IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311" Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off  Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0   -  would anyone be able to help me out?
[12:06] <Slart> N3WB: you have a way to cool graphics card... my old graphics card works.. we can make a switch ;)
[12:07] <N3WB> Hehe :P
[12:07] <chalmer> how do i change my desktop res.
[12:07] <N3WB> You wish Slart :p
[12:07] <sbaush> hi
[12:07] <PriceChild> N3WB, you need at least the 9*** drivers :)
[12:07] <sbaush> i've a big problem in guidance-power-manager
[12:07] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: that's what you're supposed to get?
[12:07] <bimberi> !FIXRES | chalmer
[12:07] <Slart> chalmer: there is an application in System, Preferences I think.. called screen resolution
[12:07] <sbaush> i pasted the problem in http://rafb.net/p/susHsU23.html
[12:07] <ubotu> chalmer: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:07] <megafauna> Hi, I get this error when I open synaptic: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. ". I did but didn't understand what to do.
[12:07] <jamison> Can someone recomnd a nice web design program similar to dreamweaver?
[12:07] <denis_on_ubuntu> preaction - then how do i make my card connect wirelessly after that point? i dont seem to have any luck with this
[12:07] <PriceChild> megafauna, run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[12:07] <bruenig> megafauna, sudo dpkg --configure -a didn't work or what
[12:07] <bimberi> erk, apologies for the caps
[12:07] <arrenlex> megafauna: run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:08] <preaction> jamison: bluefish is nice, i hear
[12:08] <chalmer> thank u
[12:08] <mirak> hi
[12:08] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: did you install gnome-network-manager?
[12:08] <denis_on_ubuntu> yep
[12:08] <EdBoy> I have a problem.
[12:08] <sbaush> i'm with kubuntu
[12:08] <arrenlex> EdBoy: run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:08] <mirak> what is the command line to suspend and hibernate the computer ?
[12:08] <arrenlex> :)
[12:08] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: did you logout/login?
[12:08] <wolferine> once I change my xorg.conf, what do I need to do, restart a service, log, etc?
[12:08] <denis_on_ubuntu> yep i restarted
[12:08] <adjioev> jamison, i use eclispse with aptana...
[12:08] <sbaush> and the problem is http://rafb.net/p/susHsU23.html
[12:08] <EdBoy> When I attempt 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg' and enter the password, it dies.
[12:08] <arrenlex> EdBoy: Sorry, proceed.
[12:08] <EdBoy> arrenlex: close :P
[12:08] <cafuego_> wolferine: logout, hit ctrl-alt-backspace, login.
[12:08] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: do you see the gnome-network-manager icon in your notification area?
[12:08] <bruenig> EdBoy, xserver-xorg not xorg
[12:08] <arrenlex> EdBoy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:08] <wolferine> backspace?
[12:08] <EdBoy> d'oh
[12:08] <wolferine> why?
[12:09] <denis_on_ubuntu> yes i do
[12:09] <megafauna> PriceChild / Bruenig / arrenlex: am trying now
[12:09] <Trixsey> Is there a way to disable the annoying feature that blocks all files that have the wrong extension? Like how some movies are called "mpeg" but are actually quick time, and due to that they are blocked
[12:09] <EdBoy> thought I did something wrong
[12:09] <sbaush> no ideas?
[12:09] <denis_on_ubuntu> but it doesnt show wireless. when i click on iti t only shows wired connection
[12:09] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: can you right click on it and see your wireless card?
[12:09] <cafuego_> wolferine: that restarts X, so it uses the new cfg file.
[12:09] <wolferine> ah
[12:09] <wolferine> brb
[12:09] <Slart> Trixsey: blocked? how are they blocked?
[12:09] <denis_on_ubuntu> right clicking just makes it give me "enable networking"
[12:09] <denis_on_ubuntu> as a checkbox
[12:10] <denis_on_ubuntu> and when i just click on it it only gives me "wired network" as an option
[12:10] <sbaush> nobody that can help me?
[12:10] <Trixsey> Slart, a window comes up and says it wont let me run the program since it could be a virus
[12:10] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: did you try clicking on that? and could you put my nickname and not use the enter key as punctuation? makes it easier to follow the conversation
[12:10] <megafauna> PriceChild / Bruenig / arrenlex: That was easy: Thanks! I had gotten myself into aptitude somehow....
[12:10] <PriceChild> megafauna, good good, have fun :)
[12:10] <denis_on_ubuntu> i dont know how to do this preaction - i'm new to this - sorry - could you tell me how?
[12:10] <Slart> Trixsey: eh.. you're not supposed to execute your files..
[12:10] <Slart> Trixsey: your movies, I mean
[12:10] <idefix> if you don't want hackers on your PC while you're away and your PC is on, I suppose you could pull out your UTP, but can't say you say to your firewall "block everything from the internet"?
[12:10] <Trixsey> I try to double click them and shit hits the fan
[12:11] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Trixsey
[12:11] <ubotu> Trixsey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:11] <bruenig> Trixsey, what are you doing?
[12:11] <Trixsey> bruenig, wanna watch a movie with an incorrect extension
[12:11] <Trixsey> why not let mplayer play it..
[12:11] <bruenig> Trixsey, change the extension
[12:11] <Trixsey> ubuntu blocks
[12:11] <Trixsey> why is it blocking? is this some ubuntu l33t feature?
[12:11] <Arch_NME> argh... why can't company put out linux drivers with their products
[12:11] <Slart> Trixsey: if you right click and chose properties.. remove the checkmark on "executable".. that should fix it
[12:11] <mirak> what is the commandline to suspend the system and hibernate ?
[12:11] <xethx> what is a good program to make icons in?
[12:11] <Arch_NME> I mean tons of people use linux
[12:11] <denis_on_ubuntu> msg preaction i tried doing this yes
[12:11] <Arch_NME> etf
[12:12] <Arch_NME> it
[12:12] <EdBoy> xethx: IconMaker?
[12:12] <Slart> Trixsey: I mean.. right click on the mpeg-file.. chose properties etc
[12:12] <cafuego_> argh, why can't people check if a product is supported before they buy it
[12:12] <Trixsey> Slart, can I still run it if its not executable?
[12:12] <colbert> Are there any add-on scripts for XChat to display my CPU info like ram, traffic, etc. ??
[12:12] <Arch_NME> so angry I can't even type
[12:12] <bruenig> mirak, I believe those are gdm things
[12:12] <Trixsey> Slart, there is no universal solution.. doing this on 500 movies is hardly a hit
[12:12] <Trixsey> nor would renaming them be
[12:12] <Arch_NME> cafeugo: your sarcastic comments are not helping my anger management over here
[12:12] <Slart> Trixsey: you're not supposed to run mpegs... they are not programs...they are data.. you run a movie player to play the movie.. same as in windows.. movies aren't exe-files
[12:12] <bruenig> Trixsey, you can chmod -x them all if they are all for some reason executable
[12:12] <cafuego_> xethx: gimp/inkscape
[12:12] <arrenlex> Trixsey: Use an automatic renamer. Or use mplayer. :)
[12:12] <xethx> EdBoy, where can i get it?
[12:12] <mirak> bruenig: mmm ?
[12:13] <xethx> cafuego, thankyou
[12:13] <cafuego_> xethx: the gnome icons are done in Inkscape.
[12:13] <Trixsey> Slart, problem is I run mplayer and ubuntu blocks mplayer
[12:13] <EdBoy> xethx: Dunno, was just guessing
[12:13] <bruenig> mirak, so I don't think it is some recognizable shell command it would be some special gdm option
[12:13] <arrenlex> Trixsey: ubuntu does what now?!
[12:13] <cafuego_> xethx: You should be able to obtain their SVG source at openclipart.org
[12:13] <idefix> guys?
[12:13] <Slart> Trixsey: you can do it from the console.. chmod a-x -R *.mpeg should work
[12:13] <xethx> lol
[12:13] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: i'm installing the network manager, hang on
[12:13] <Trixsey> arrenlex, it blocks the friggin thing.. it whines about "THE FILE MIGHT BE A VIRUS"
[12:13] <Evil_`> how can I make a file "non world writable"
[12:13] <denis_on_ubuntu> thank you preaction
[12:13] <xethx> sudo apt-get install inkscape ftw
[12:13] <Trixsey> I dont care if its a virus, I want to watch the movie should my harddrive burn
[12:13] <arrenlex> Trixsey: WHAT?! XD What's doing that?
[12:13] <Arch_NME> cafeugo: also, if you can find a cellualr internet card that has linux drviers and software I would be more than happy to purchase it, but it doesn't even seem like there is such an animal
[12:14] <Trixsey> I don't know what exactly :P Could it be gnome? lol
[12:14] <bruenig> Evil_`, you don't want anyone writing to it or just "others"
[12:14] <denis_on_ubuntu> how do I message someone on here with their name highlighted before the text?
[12:14] <arrenlex> Trixsey: Take a screenshot please.
[12:14] <Marlun> When using parted, what is it I should give it, a partition? It's hdb1 that I want to format from a ntfs to ext3, however if I do "parted /media/hdb1" and then "print" it tells me: Unrecognized dik label.
[12:14] <PriceChild> Trixsey, This is on ubuntu right? :s
[12:14] <Trixsey> PriceChild, yes
[12:14] <PriceChild> !tab | denis_on_ubuntu
[12:14] <ubotu> denis_on_ubuntu: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:14] <Trixsey> arrenlex, ok 1 min
[12:14] <arrenlex> denis_on_ubuntu: By putting their name before the text.
[12:14] <denis_on_ubuntu> ah ok thank you
[12:14] <Evil_`> bruenig, when I try to run phpmyadmin with lampp, it says "Wrong permissions on configuration file, should not be world writable!"
[12:15] <bruenig> Evil_`, hmmm, I would sudo chmod go-w it
[12:15] <preaction> Evil_`: chmod o-w <the config file>
[12:15] <EdBoy> Anyone know which Apache to download for Ubuntu?
[12:15] <Evil_`> thanks
[12:15] <EdBoy> pkgadd doesn't seem to exist so I can't use the ReliantUnix one
[12:15] <Trixsey> http://www.mathbin.net/9123
[12:15] <Trixsey> this is what it says, arrenlex
[12:15] <bruenig> or o maybe, I don't know if it wants group and others or just others blocked
[12:15] <mark007> EdBoy, 1.3, 2, and 2.2 are all packaged...
[12:15] <denis_on_ubuntu> preaction: thanks for your help i appreciate it - i've been trying to setup wireless for a long time now heh
[12:15] <preaction> EdBoy: you probably want the prefork one
[12:15] <mark007> Take your pick
[12:15] <Trixsey> arrenlex, I can't rename hundreds of files.. that'd be devastating
[12:15] <Trixsey> this feature is useless
[12:15] <EdBoy> prefork?
[12:15] <EdBoy> mark007: where at?
[12:15] <bruenig> Trixsey, yes you can, there is some called rename works very well
[12:15] <xethx> -_-
[12:15] <Slart> Trixsey: hmm.. my ubuntu installation doesn't do what you describe.. something is weird here
[12:16] <preaction> EdBoy: open synaptic, search for "apache2"
[12:16] <arrenlex> Trixsey: wtf? That's so stupid... that's the most Windowsy error message I've ever seen.
[12:16] <Trixsey> arrenlex, I WONT RENAME THE FILE
[12:16] <Trixsey> I HAVE TONS OF FILES
[12:16] <PriceChild> !caps | Trixsey
[12:16] <ubotu> Trixsey: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:16] <Trixsey> FOR HEAVENS SAKES I CANT RENAME THEM ALL
[12:16] <Trixsey> christ
[12:16] <arrenlex> Trixsey: yes you can, it's very easy. xD
[12:16] <arrenlex> !krename
[12:16] <PriceChild> Trixsey, please calm down
[12:16] <Trixsey> "hey he is from windows, look! he doesn't want to rename 500 files!"
[12:16] <zOap> how do I configure my touchpad to use the bottom scroller as sideways scroller in firefox and other apps? I'm using qsynaptics and the xorg synaptics driver.
[12:16] <ubotu> krename: Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.12-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[12:16] <bruenig> gui....
[12:16] <bruenig> come on
[12:17] <Slart> Trixsey: you're running ubuntu right? Edgy eft (6.10) ? something else?
[12:17] <EdBoy> Ooooh, thanks
[12:17] <Trixsey> ye
[12:17] <EdBoy> 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 for apache2-mpm-prefork, right
[12:17] <Trixsey> arrenlex, then why don't you SSH to my comp and do it.. they are in different folders all over the HDD
[12:17] <bruenig> Trixsey, are they all mpegs that you need to switch to qt or mov or whatever they are
[12:17] <preaction> EdBoy: the last -XXX is the type of MPM installed. i like prefork because it's the most stable. the other ones are faster iirc. ask #apache
[12:17] <Trixsey> bruenig, no
[12:18] <bruenig> Trixsey, well explain it, I am sure someone can script it or do it with find or something
[12:18] <dager> Trixsey, whats the problem?
[12:18] <Slart> Trixsey: I
[12:18] <cafuego_> Trixsey: Be amazed at the awesome power of the `find' command.
[12:18] <ucordes> !alacarte
[12:18] <ubotu> alacarte: easy menu editing. In component main, is optional. Version 0.10.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 73 kB, installed size 1136 kB
[12:18] <ucordes> !bostnack
[12:18] <EdBoy> I did, #apache's dead.
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bostnack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <preaction> !patience > EdBoy
[12:18] <Slart> Trixsey: I'm having some trouble understanding this.. you have files named blabla.mpeg and when you try to open it you get a messagebox saying sometinhg about virus?
[12:19] <bruenig> Slart, he gets a message that they are actually qt files so they should be renamed with the right extension
[12:19] <Trixsey> Slart, you have the whole message
[12:19] <preaction> Slart: it's the standard nautilus error message when a file's extention does not match the output from /usr/bin/file
[12:19] <Trixsey> I pasted it
[12:19] <Trixsey> "f you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system. "
[12:19] <cafuego_> which movie player says that?
[12:19] <Trixsey> was what it said
[12:19] <Trixsey> I never said mplayer says that
[12:19] <arrenlex> preaction, Trixsey: Oh, it's nautilus? That explains it... thank god I don't run gnome.
[12:19] <xethx> ok
[12:19] <Slart> eh.. but I've tried it.. I can rename my movies whatever I want.. I can have them executable and I still don't get a message when I try to open them
[12:20] <xethx> maby someone can help me, i need to uninstall grub so thst it will boot windows -_-
[12:20] <Slart> is it sometihng special with qt movies?
[12:20] <Trixsey> Slart, not really.. it goes off for any incorrect file extension
[12:20] <Trixsey> which IMHO is madness
[12:20] <bruenig> Trixsey, if you would explain what the files extensions are and what they need to be changed to, we could probably fix it really quickly instead of just saying to us that we couldn't
[12:20] <dager> Slart: why are your movies executable? I'm just curious, but I think they only need to be read-only to be used
[12:20] <Trixsey> bruenig, I'm a programmer myself.. the movies don't follow a distinct pattern
[12:20] <Trixsey> nor do their extensions
[12:21] <Slart> dager: mm.. I just noticed it myself.. I have no idea..
[12:21] <Trixsey> they all differ
[12:21] <denis_on_ubuntu> preaction: I guess I am not sure how to make sure that i installed the wireless card correctly - but going through the forum instructions is just really confusing, moreso because things do not work the same way on the instructions as on my box lol
[12:21] <Trixsey> and I got hundreds of them
[12:21] <concept10> does the Order in Sessions control which app is started first?
[12:21] <Trixsey> all over the place
[12:21] <dager> Slart: so perhaps, since you're in effect trying to "execute" a movie.. it's not registering right with file
[12:21] <preaction> Trixsey: a shell script. call `file`, if it's QT, rename to "avi"
[12:21] <bruenig> Trixsey, ok well first, all over the place doesn't matter so get that block out of your mind
[12:21] <Trixsey> I simply don't want to make a shellscript or some program to rename all files
[12:21] <dager> Slart: thus, giving you the foreign extension warning
[12:21] <Sheepmullet> lol
[12:21] <Slart> dager: eh.. it won't execute my movie.. it just plays it..
[12:21] <Trixsey> I rather format and get debian or whatever
[12:21] <bruenig> Trixsey, then leave
[12:21] <preaction> Trixsey: debian has nautilus too? you've been given a solution.
[12:21] <Trixsey> Slart, clicking the movie icon actually executes mplayer, which plays it
[12:21] <dager> Slart: well yeah, there's nothing to execute, but Nautilus might be thinking you're trying, which is why it presents the error?
[12:22] <bruenig> trixsey doesn't want us to help him
[12:22] <Slart> Trixsey: yes.. that happens for me too.. but I don't get the warning
[12:22] <xethx> can someone help me uninstall grub?
[12:22] <PriceChild> xethx, uninstall grub?
[12:22] <PriceChild> xethx, you want to go back to windows only?
[12:22] <xethx> i need to boot windows
[12:22] <xethx> yes
[12:22] <cafuego_> Same here, when I rename my .MOV files to MPEG they play just fine
[12:22] <Slart> dager: but it isn't presenting the error.. I'm changing permissions back and forth.. executing right and left and no warnings whatsoever.. it just plays the file in mplayer
[12:22] <Trixsey> I'll just get KDE then.. this is nuts.. I know there are solutions and workarounds but why spend hours (it'd take plenty of time) on converting from one extension to another? (I have a bunch of extensions and they are all wrong, and in different folders and stuff).. not only MPEG/QT
[12:23] <xethx> PriceChild, yes
[12:23] <dager> Slart: oh.. I see.. then whats the issue? :P
[12:23] <Trixsey> I mean, everything can be solved if you put lots of time to solve it, but my point is why oh WHY would you include such a useless feature in the first place!?!?
[12:23] <bruenig> Trixsey, complain to gnome
[12:23] <preaction> Trixsey: better solution: tell nautilus team to ignore file extentions. or tell the people you download your pirated movies from to use better codecs
[12:23] <Slart> dager: Trixsey is getting a warning message about "bla bla bla danger danger.. executing this might harm your system etc etc"
[12:23] <Trixsey> I dont download pirated movies
[12:23] <Trixsey> I download free pornography that I masturbate to
[12:24] <dager> Slart: oooh, perhaps I should've told him then :P
[12:24] <PriceChild> xethx, one second
[12:24] <preaction> bruenig: trixsey said "programmer" not "competent programmer"
[12:24] <dager> Trixsey: do you have the corrent libraries to play .mov files?
[12:24] <m1r> eve all
[12:24] <Factory> Tixsey: no sex drive? =(
[12:24] <bruenig> Trixsey, you should write your own DE since you program and all
[12:24] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Trixsey
[12:24] <ubotu> Trixsey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:24] <m1r> nice number tonight :) 1040
[12:25] <PriceChild> xethx, http://www.techzonez.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3975.html
[12:25] <denis_on_ubuntu> preaction: any luck with network manager man?
[12:25] <xethx> PriceChild, Thanks a bunch
[12:25] <Trixsey> It's not hard to make a shell script that renames the file extensions in a folder, but like I said.. it's not only QT/mov files.. I don't even know what all are
[12:25] <Slart> quicktime movies have the .mov extension usually, right?
[12:25] <Factory> Just wanted to let you all know that you're all doing a terrific job. Ubuntu is a godsend of a distro.
[12:26] <bruenig> Slart, yes
[12:26] <trond> slart: yep
[12:26] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: no, user switching crashed my vm
[12:26] <denis_on_ubuntu> oh shoot heh
[12:26] <Trixsey> bruenig, how would I know which extension which file *should* have?
[12:26] <bruenig> Trixsey, you would probably need to use the file command
[12:26] <Factory> Trixsey, you downloaded it, didn't you?
[12:26] <preaction> Trixsey: then go through and fix all your extentions. .avi, .mpeg, .mov, .rm, and get the output from `file`
[12:26] <EdBoy> to execute apache 2, I go to /usr/sbin/ and exec apache2, right?
[12:26] <JuJuBee> I need to get a motherboard that will support a socket 775 Core 2 Duo.  Can someone suggest one that has been tested to work with ubuntu?
[12:26] <Trixsey> Factory, I have hundreds of movies
[12:26] <Flannel> EdBoy: no.
[12:26] <concept10> does the Order in Sessions control which app is started first?
[12:26] <preaction> EdBoy: no. /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:26] <Flannel> EdBoy: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:26] <xethx> PriceChild, I dont have a windows boot disk -_-
[12:27] <dager> Trixsey: I dont think I fully understand your problem, but you might actually need to convert your files instead of just renaming them
[12:27] <denis_on_ubuntu> preaction: ok well i dunno. Is there some application that works like the wireless icon in windows, where it shows you a list of available connections around you?
[12:27] <preaction> EdBoy: but that was done for you as part of the install process
[12:27] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: that's what the network manager will do
[12:27] <EdBoy> thanks
[12:27] <PriceChild> xethx, I'm not helping you if you have a pirate version of windows
[12:27] <cafuego_> JuJuBee: ANy Intel 945 mobo should work fine with Edgy. 965's will probably work with Feisty.
[12:27] <xethx> PriceChild, I dont
[12:27] <EdBoy> How do I know if it's running? o_0
[12:27] <JuJuBee> I have a 965 and cannot get it to work with Feisty.
[12:27] <Thinkpad_Guru> JuJuBee I've had good luck with Foxconn boards
[12:27] <JuJuBee> or earlier.
[12:27] <preaction> EdBoy: ps aux | grep "apache"
[12:27] <EdBoy> oh, localhost is on
[12:27] <EdBoy> hehe
[12:28] <Factory> Thinkpad_Guru, I just read in the forums of someone (actually two people) haveing troubles with one of their models.
[12:28] <Trixsey> bruenig, and then cycle through the home dir in search for movies to rename to their *actual* extensions?.. and as soon as I get a new movie I have to either manually rename it or run the script?
[12:28] <denis_on_ubuntu> preaction: really? ok - heh cuz it doesnt show any connections around me so, where would i go from there?
[12:28] <xethx> PriceChild, I bought the computer from the HP websight
[12:28] <bruenig> JuJuBee, #ubuntu+1
[12:28] <preaction> EdBoy: might i suggest a standard tutorial for setting up apache?
[12:28] <Trixsey> that'd be one messy solution
[12:28] <preaction> denis_on_ubuntu: probably doesn't because it doesn't think you have a wireless card?
[12:28] <JuJuBee> brueing : what is that?
[12:28] <lisapc> whats (peerguardian?
[12:28] <PriceChild> xethx, Best to contact them on the best way to restore it...
[12:28] <bruenig> Trixsey, where are you getting these movies that they don't have the write extension in the first place
[12:28] <Trixsey> bruenig, from pornsites
[12:28] <bruenig> Trixsey, you could set up a cronjob to run the script, awesome
[12:28] <PriceChild> xethx, until then you can continue using grub to boot windows
[12:28] <cafuego_> Slart: Linxu doesn't.
[12:28] <xethx> PriceChild, -_- thats  going to be a pain in the ass
[12:28] <preaction> Slart: linux doesn't. nautilus does. it's nautilus
[12:28] <Factory> Slart: it doesn't. That's why I'm confused right now.
[12:29] <Factory> oh. nautilus. gotcha
[12:29] <xethx> grub wont even boot windows
[12:29] <Slart> ahh...
[12:29] <denis_on_ubuntu> preaction: so how would i get it to think that i have a wireless card, like i installed ndiswrapper and did the command to rap it around the driver, but i'm confused what to do past that point
[12:29] <Trixsey> bruenig, lol.. I guess.. but that still feels really dirty
[12:29] <bruenig> Slart, not sure gnome counts as linux anymore, linus is against it and it appears to suck
[12:29] <cafuego_> well, *his* nautilus does.
[12:29] <jlward4th> hi all.  question I can't find the answer to on google...  i have 2 sata drives, in my laptop, but one shows up as an ide drive.  how do i disable the ide controller?
[12:29] <phelyx> Hello just started running Ubunto, is there a YellowDog like application that can be ran to mount drives on the fly.
[12:29] <xethx> PriceChild, I get a grub 17 error
[12:29] <Factory> Yahknow, you could just use a different file manager =)
[12:29] <N3WB> Question: I have just installed Ubuntu from alternative CD and it works perfect and all that, a graphic driver isnt working but i will install that later (if possible)
[12:29] <preaction> phelyx: what kind of drives?
[12:29] <Slart> bruenig: no.. say it aint so.. I was just beginning to be comfortable with it..
[12:29] <Trixsey> Sorry, I'll correct myself.. I watched birds and bees
[12:29] <Thinkpad_Guru> Factory, hmm, I've had good luck.  Even the Dreaded Linux unfriendly Asus boards work good with the Core 2 Duo for me.  After I added a PCI NIC that is.......
[12:29] <dager> bruenig: linus is just picky :P
[12:29] <Trixsey> or flowers and bees it is perhaps
[12:30] <preaction> no, gnome is failing in its mission.
[12:30] <phelyx> preaction: I read that Ubuntu can read NTFS but not write without installing ntfs-3g
[12:30] <bruenig> linus is hilarious though, I wish I were as good as he was so that when I complained about something sucking I could just go "yeah here are the patches, you guys really do suck"
[12:30] <preaction> phelyx: this is true, but does not answer my question
[12:30] <PriceChild> xethx, !offtopic
[12:30] <N3WB> but all i see now is a command tool for ubuntu
[12:30] <N3WB> no graphical things or such
[12:30] <N3WB> Question: I have just installed Ubuntu from alternative CD and it works perfect and all that, a graphic driver isnt working but i will install that later (if possible)
[12:30] <Factory> Thinkpad_Guru, ah wow. You  must carry around two rabbits feet and a 4  leaf clover, eh? I've had success with asus myself on amd archs, though. You want me to find you the model those guys were having troubles with or no?
[12:30] <PriceChild> argh that wasn't to you xethx
[12:30] <N3WB> or do i need to do that now?
[12:30] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[12:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:30] <phelyx> preaction: regular ntfs drives from an old windows server
[12:30] <Thinkpad_Guru> dager some manufactures haven't made their boards easy for developers to write for
[12:30] <xethx> PriceChild, Thanks
[12:30] <Trixsey> bruenig, why patch something that sucks in the first place.. might as well swap to something else then.. I'll go for KDE4 :'(
[12:30] <cafuego_> bruenig: otoh, he knocks back more patches than anyone in the world
[12:31] <preaction> phelyx: so what do you mean by automount? what does the program from yellowdog do?
[12:31] <Factory> Trixsey: or just get a diff file manager.
[12:31] <phelyx> preaction: 250gb seagate to be exact partitioned 125:125
[12:31] <Factory> Trixsey: why throw away the fridge because the milk is bad?
[12:31] <panfist> i have gnome-system-monitor on, if i change a setting in vmware server, memory usage of gnome-system-monitor reports that the memory use of xchat and gnome-system-monitor goes to 4gigabytes and my system hangs for a long time while it pages something
[12:31] <concept10> Anyone use kxdocker?  How do I get it to show on the desktop?
[12:31] <bruenig> cafuego, he may be a hypocrite but still when he says something sucks, he can prove it, all I can do is sit on the sideline and say you guys really should fix this part even though I really don't understand how any of this code works anyways
[12:31] <phelyx> preaction: Overall the problem is they won't show even with the mount command
[12:32] <xethx> PriceChild, GRUB Loading stage1.5.                     GRUB loading, please wait...                Error 17
[12:32] <preaction> phelyx: "show"?
[12:32] <PriceChild> one moment xe
[12:32] <PriceChild> xethx, ^
[12:32] <cafuego_> bruenig: No, see, "sucking" is opinion, not fact. You can't prove opinion. Just because he's Linus doesn't mean he's always right.
[12:32] <Trixsey> Factory, if the same person made both the fridge and the milk.. you take out your anger on everything he made.. and remove it all! ROAR
[12:32] <JuJuBee> I tried to look through the HCL's but cannot search by slot type (775) or CPU (Core 2 Duo).  I need to get a board replaced fast.  I have to build a new computer and the board I have (Intel 965) is not going to cut it. (Not yet at least).
[12:32] <bruenig> cafuego, well he can back it up I should say
[12:32] <Thinkpad_Guru> Factory, I don't think thats all necessary.  I don't know my buddy's board model off hand to be of any help anyway.  It is a brand new board though, like a month or two old
[12:33] <Slart> Trixsey: ok.. I now have a quicktime movie.. it's executable.. but when I open it it just says something about not knowing what to do with this filetype
[12:33] <PriceChild> xethx, error 17 is that grub can't mount the selected partition
[12:33] <Factory> Trixsey: You're pretty impatient then =p Remind me not to make you tester for anything I ever right, lest you complain about the colors used.
[12:33] <xethx> PriceChild, soo, what shal i do?
[12:33] <Factory> Trixsey: If you change your mind, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[12:33] <cafuego_> bruenig: Lots of people write patches for all kinds of software and they get rejected all the time.
[12:33] <Trixsey> Slart, get some mplayer codecs then, there are QT codecs for it :P
[12:33] <Factory> Thinkpad_Guru,  alright man. Just checkin
[12:33] <PriceChild> xethx, Do you still have ubuntu installed?
[12:33] <bruenig> cafuego, right but I can't do that, so I envy those who can, I should learn I guess
[12:33] <cafuego_> bruenig: You don't hear them yellign and complaining about bruised egos.
[12:34] <Slart> Trixsey: well... I can open it if I call it movie.mov or movie.mpeg.. but if I just call it movie I get the error message
[12:34] <PriceChild> !offtopic | cafuego_ bruenig
[12:34] <ubotu> cafuego_ bruenig: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:34] <xethx> PriceChild, I installed ubuntu to a externam hd and it installed grub to my dekstop, it was never installed on my computer
[12:34] <Slart> Trixsey: not your error message.. just another error message
[12:34] <Factory> Slart: Nautilus takes notice of file extensions, remember?
[12:34] <N3WB> Question: I have just installed Ubuntu from alternative CD and it works perfect and all that, a graphic driver isnt working but i will install that later (if possible)
[12:34] <N3WB> or do i need to do that now?
[12:34] <bruenig> !info thunar
[12:34] <Factory> N3WB, nice question.
[12:34] <Slart> Factory: yea.. I remember.. just getting closer to repeating the problem
[12:34] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0svn+r23151-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 384 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[12:34] <PriceChild> xethx, did ubuntu ever boot?
[12:34] <Factory> Slart, =) righto
[12:34] <N3WB> Ye i have asked it like 10 times now -.-
[12:35] <xethx> PriceChild, on the external?
[12:35] <PriceChild> xethx, basically... ubuntu cannot find the ubuntu partition/cannot mount it
[12:35] <Trixsey> Factory, I didn't complain about the colors.. ??
[12:35] <Slart> I can even rename it to movie.sh and it still doesn't give me a warning
[12:35] <Thinkpad_Guru> Factory *Thinkpad Guru* not random *Asus board Guru* :-)
[12:35] <Factory> N3WB, when you say a graphics driver isn't working, what exactly is it doing
[12:35] <Aggrav8d> i've got users who all share the same group and they can see/edit a samba folder on my linux box.  they can read files (yay) and save files (yay) but when they save the file changes it's group (boo!)  how can i make it keep the old group when they save their files?  i'm running smbd 3.0.22 in ubuntu.
[12:35] <PriceChild> N3WB, might be nice to just install it now.
[12:35] <PriceChild> Factory, he has a 8800 unsupported by "nv"
[12:35] <Factory> Trixsey, I was making an analogy =)
[12:35] <Factory> PriceChild,  gotcha
[12:35] <xethx> PriceChild, so?... im skrewed
[12:35] <preaction> Aggrav8d: the people in #samba would be able to help you better probably
[12:35] <Factory> Thinkpad_Guru, hah right right.
[12:35] <PriceChild> xethx, Did ubuntu ever boot?
[12:35] <N3WB> nVidia has LinuxDrivers for 8800 GTS
[12:36] <N3WB> but not so sure how to install them on Ubuntu (A)
[12:36] <PriceChild> !envy | N3WB
[12:36] <ubotu> N3WB: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[12:36] <xethx> PriceChild, on my dekstop i booted the live cd so i could install to the external
[12:36] <Trixsey> Slart, yeah in windows I could play any file with mplayer.. even compressed with rar (if my memory serves me right)
[12:36] <Trixsey> Slart, whats your file manager then?
[12:36] <Factory> envy is quite nice for that situation, N3WB
[12:36] <Factory> ah, beat me to it.
[12:36] <Slart> Trixsey: Nautilus.. that's what's so strange
[12:37] <dager> Slart and Trixsey: are you running from the command line? or through nautilus?
[12:37] <N3WB> Also is it because X-Server or whatever its called dont got drivers that i dont see ubuntu like it should be?
[12:37] <flyinghippo> Hello.  I'm just wondering if anyone could suggest a good (preferably graphical) FTP client for Ubuntu.
[12:37] <Slart> dager: clicking in the gui... nautilus
[12:37] <Trixsey> dager, I tried through nautilus
[12:37] <PriceChild> flyinghippo, I love the fireftp extension to firefox. However gnome connects to ftp servers perfectly also
[12:37] <flyinghippo> Thanks.
[12:37] <preaction> flyinghippo: he means nautilus
[12:37] <dager> Slart and Trixsey: try it from the commandline.. "mplayer movie" should be sufficient, extensions not needed
[12:38] <flyinghippo> I'm actually connecting to SFTP.
[12:38] <Dreamxtreme> Hi i ned help connecting to the net
[12:38] <Factory> flyinghippo, gFTP hasn't let me down yet.
[12:38] <flyinghippo> gFTP has been difficult for that.
[12:38] <preaction> flyinghippo: nautilus will do that too probably. it's just a different way to do scp
[12:38] <ebjcoat> what's the best program for ripping dvds?
[12:38] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: you still on here???
[12:39] <Jugo23> dvdshrink. Don't know if they make a version for linux
[12:39] <ebjcoat> yeah i have dvd decrypter for windows
[12:39] <Slart> dager: yes.. that worked as well.. but nautilus seems to work nicely, executable movie or not.. unless I rename it to movie.sh or just movie
[12:39] <niaht> k9copy - like dvdshrink
[12:39] <Factory> ebjcoat, there are quite a few if I recall.
[12:39] <ardchoille> Jugo23: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net  <-- I am using it in Dapper as we speak :)
[12:39] <xethx> PriceChild, so.... what should i do
[12:40] <Factory> !dvd ripping
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd ripping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Jugo> There you go ebjcoat
[12:40] <Dreamxtreme> Can any help me connect to the net with my wifi
[12:40] <PriceChild> xethx, well you didn't answer my question?
[12:40] <ebjcoat> thanks
[12:40] <Factory> Dreamxtreme, have you tried google yet =)
[12:40] <Dreamxtreme> yea
[12:40] <xethx> PriceChild, yes i did
[12:40] <N3WB> Question: Drivers for ubuntu should end with .run or?
[12:40] <Dreamxtreme> im stuck
[12:40] <Jugo> Dreamxtreme, google 'ubuntu wireless'
[12:40] <Slart> N3WB: they sometimes do
[12:40] <preaction> N3WB: read the readme
[12:40] <xethx>  on my dekstop i booted the live cd so i could install to the external
[12:41] <xethx> PriceChild, ^
[12:41] <PriceChild> xethx, either way, you've got to contact dell on how to restore your mbr... but I'm trying to let you get grub back to get into windows.
[12:41] <Factory> Dreamxtreme, not being able to connect to the net through wifi is extremely common. I find it hard to believe doing a search on google gave you NOTHING.
[12:41] <PriceChild> xethx, but you didn't install?
[12:41] <preaction> N3WB: that's not the driver itself, it's a shell program that will install the driver. drivers are .so (shared objects)
[12:41] <Slart> N3WB: specifically, the nvidia graphics drivers do
[12:41] <xethx> PriceChild, not to rhe computer thats having problems
[12:41] <Slart> yes.. preaction is right.. sorry to add to the confusion
[12:41] <Arch_NME> if anyone know's anything regarding getting a UTstarcom 5740 EVDO cellular internet card with sprint service to work under ubuntu please pm me, I'll be idle in the chan for the next few hours as I do some of my own web research, sorry for spamming this again
[12:41] <PriceChild> xethx, then how has it even got grub on it?
[12:41] <preaction> N3WB: but seriously, use envy
[12:41] <xethx> PriceChild, thats wat id like to know
[12:42] <N3WB> ok
[12:42] <N3WB> Fine -.- will download it
[12:42] <kraypius> I am having a problem with installing my ubuntu
[12:42] <Slart> kraypius: what kind of problems
[12:42] <trond> Has anyone experienced choppy video with ATI fglrx and beryl xgl? Tried in the #beryl channel, but no response.
[12:42] <ardchoille> trond: Try #ubuntu-effects
[12:42] <kraypius> im at the part where you select the partitions and it keeps telling me: No root file system
[12:42] <Aggrav8d> preaction - i tried there first :(
[12:43] <PriceChild> xethx, I can't help you.... you say you have grub on your machine, even though you haven't installed ubuntu on it?
[12:43] <Factory> trond: ATI never plays nice with ubuntu
[12:43] <niaht> trond: Yes
[12:43] <Factory> trond: just a warning.
[12:43] <preaction> Aggrav8d: and they said?
[12:43] <kraypius> i selected the correct partition though and set the mount point to /
[12:43] <xethx> PriceChild, yes
[12:43] <Aggrav8d> try the sticky bit.  chmod g+s.
[12:43] <wolferine> anyone use Nvidia/dual screens?
[12:43] <Slart> kraypius: ok, you need to tell it where to put the root file system.. ie where Ubuntu will be.. similar to the partition where windows will have it's windows folder
[12:43] <preaction> Aggrav8d: and after you told them that didn't work?
[12:43] <Aggrav8d> still nothing.
[12:43] <trond> Factory: It actually plays fairly well here, except for video (maximized and fullscreen with XV) and opengl in cedega/wine
[12:44] <N3WB> envy.deb yep right i guess? :P
[12:44] <bobesponja> hey all
[12:44] <kilian> if want to allow user kilian to execute shutdown without entering his password, so i added "kilian  ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown" to my /etc/sudoers, but when user kilian enters "sudo shutdown" he is still asked for his password, anybody an idea whats wrong?
[12:44] <Aggrav8d> i'm sure it's a simple config - "don't muck with group settings"
[12:44] <Factory> trond: then that's not playing nicely, is it? ;)
[12:44] <N3WB> then put that on a CD or memory stick and use that?
[12:44] <bobesponja> a friend of mine just installed Ubuntu, can I ssh to his computer or does he need to install ssh or something?
[12:44] <kraypius> isnt that what i was doing on the "prepare mount points" screen?
[12:44] <preaction> Aggrav8d: you're most likely not going to get help here, that's a hard-core samba problem, and this is a general-purpose ubuntu channel :( you'll just have to be patient. search the docs while you wait?
[12:44] <trond> Niaht: Did you find a sollution? Do you know if it is a beryl bug, or ATI prop driver bug, or both? :)
[12:44] <PriceChild> N3WB, "sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb" to install it
[12:45] <trond> Factory: If I could solve the choppy video thing I could live with it
[12:45] <Aggrav8d> preaction - i've been searching docs, googling, and trying samba all at once :T
[12:45] <Aggrav8d> preaction - but thanks for trying :)
[12:45] <preaction> N3WB: or just double-click in the latest ubuntu, it will open an installer
[12:45] <Slart> kraypius: hmm.. not really no... I can't really remember what that screen looks like.. but you have to tell it to put to root file system on a drive.. the operating system has to be somewhere..
[12:45] <Factory> trond: I can "live" with it, too, but knowing that it's my videocard holding me back from my wine + videogames makes me nuts.
[12:45] <N3WB> ok thanks, will write that on a note right now :D
[12:45] <N3WB> ok
[12:45] <niaht> trond, sorry,no idea.. I'm sure it's some combination of the bunch. Things with ATI and X simply are not in the best state.. haven't been for some time.
[12:45] <Factory> trond: therefor, yay nvidia, boo ati.
[12:46] <trond> Factory: it is frustrating yes. The next video card I buy will come from nvidia.
[12:46] <kraypius> my screen shows: /media/sda1 83Gb Partition 1
[12:46] <GMWeezel> How can I make an application take focus when executed from the command line?
[12:46] <Factory> trond, there you go =)
[12:46] <kraypius> swap 502mb partition 3
[12:46] <lisapc> how can I convert AVI to MPEG please?
[12:46] <Factory> lisapc, have you tried google yet?
[12:46] <kraypius>  / 10gb part2
[12:46] <cafuego_> lisapc: using ffmpeg
[12:46] <delaney> I feel like an idiot but im googling my but off trying to find what i need to checkout the latest clearlooks svn and cant find it anywhere.  anyone got a hint?
[12:46] <Slart> kraypius: ah.. then root should be on part2
[12:46] <Slart> kraypius: then I don't understand why it's complaining..
[12:47] <lisapc> Factory, wow, i didnt realise google converts avi. ty
[12:47] <kraypius> yeah thats what i set it to and it says: ! no root file system
[12:47] <lisapc> cafuego, ty :)
[12:47] <niaht> trond, you will have much better success. Honestly, my ATI with beryl is *snappier* an crisper. but jittery at times, and unstable.  With my nvidia (on 64-bit no less), it's really usable.
[12:47] <Slart> kraypius: ah.. btw.. have you told it what file system to use? as in ext2, ext3, reiserfs etc
[12:47] <Factory> lisapc, no, but it's better to actually look for an answer yourself than to come to a channel with an easy-to-fix question.
[12:47] <Factory> lisapc, Just sayin'.
[12:47] <kraypius> i created the partition filesystems while in windows. it is ext3
[12:47] <xethx> can anyone help me -_-?
[12:47] <lisapc> Factory, dont be so self0righteous and condescending, thanks
[12:48] <kraypius> i used partition magic
[12:48] <PriceChild> Factory, lisapc lets end that there :)
[12:48] <kraypius> the install OS option
[12:48] <Slart> kraypius: perhaps you have to tell it that it's ext3 somehow?
[12:48] <Factory> PriceChild,  ended
[12:48] <kraypius> it knows
[12:48] <kraypius> on the previous screen it shows in this order:
[12:48] <lisapc> PriceChild, ok :)
[12:48] <bsnider> is there a way i can turn off IPTABLES?
[12:48] <trond> Niaht: 64 bit? :)
[12:49] <PriceChild> bsnider, Pardon? It shouldn't really be causing a problem
[12:49] <preaction> bsnider: why would you ever want to do that?
[12:49] <niaht> trond, AMD opteron
[12:49] <bsnider> let's say that for argument's sake, i want to do it anyway
[12:49] <kraypius>  /dev/sda3  linux swap
[12:49] <cafuego_> bsnider: Just set all policies to ACCEPT and have no other rules.
[12:49] <xethx> -_-
[12:49] <kraypius>  /dev/dsa1  hidden
[12:49] <preaction> bsnider: no, let's say you tell us why and we tell you you're stupid?
[12:50] <kraypius>  /dev/sda2  ext3  boot
[12:50] <PriceChild> !coc | preaction
[12:50] <ubotu> preaction: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:50] <russell190> hello every1.
[12:50] <Jugo23> hi
[12:50] <russell190> This is my first time at this server
[12:50] <Factory> bsnider: better question: do you know what IPTABLES is ?
[12:50] <Slart> kraypius: hmm.. ok.. that looks good too... I've run out of ideas to try.. my last resort would be to google for the error message.. see what comes up.. oh.. and keep asking in here.. perhaps someone else knows a solution to this
[12:50] <lisapc> cafuego, is there a GUI front end for ffmpeg?
[12:51] <russell190> I also am on irc.wii-battle.com
[12:51] <cafuego_> lisapc: No idea, probably.
[12:51] <mribas> lkkkkk
[12:51] <bsnider> Factory: nm i'll take care of it myself
[12:51] <ardchoille> lisapc: What does ffmpeg do?
[12:51] <PriceChild> !ffmpeg | ardchoille
[12:51] <Factory> bsnider: go for it =) Have fun not using the internet
[12:51] <ubotu> ardchoille: ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[12:51] <russell190> People: I am here to support my server, we need a lot more people, please type .server -m irc.wii-battle.com
[12:51] <russell190> replace . with a /
[12:51] <lisapc> ardchoille, cafuego saud uit will convert my AVI to mpeg
[12:52] <KeeNaF> hi guys .. i bought a new harddisk and use it as external with enclosure .. the problem is linux did not detect the hdd ... what should i do?
[12:52] <niaht> bsnider, iptables is a module.
[12:52] <wes_1977> what's the files that contains the list of modules to not load a boot time?
[12:52] <cafuego_> /etc/modules
[12:52] <cafuego_> the reast is loaded automagically during hardware probe.
[12:52] <ardchoille> lisapc: You might look into avidemux, it's in the repos, I think it can convert avi to mpeg.
[12:53] <wes_1977> cafuego_: thanks
[12:53] <bruenig> lisapc, devede for avi to dvd compatible mpeg
[12:53] <lisapc> ardchoille, ok ty
[12:53] <lisapc> bruenig, ah ok
[12:53] <lisapc> brb
[12:53] <ardchoille> lisapc: Yes, devede can indeed convert avi to mpeg, as bruenig said. I used it about an hour ago.
[12:53] <lisapc> ok trhaknks
[12:54] <lisapc> ardchoille, does it leave AVI in tact?
[12:54] <Kooka> cya all and good night :)
[12:54] <ardchoille> lisapc: Yes
[12:54] <cafuego_> ffmpeg -i foo.avi -f dvd-pal foo.mpg
[12:54] <cafuego_> it's really not hard
[12:54] <roachclit> how do you guys change the screen resolution on UBUNTU on a laptop, my graphics card supports higher then 800 x 600 but when I installed UBUNTU it won't give me anything else?
[12:55] <ardchoille> lisapc: See what cafuego_ just said, looks much easier than installing and learning a new app
[12:55] <lisapc> cafuego, thanks a lot!! :)
[12:55] <MadDog011> How do I unload the NVIDIA kernel?
[12:55] <lisapc> cafuego, will that leave my AVI?
[12:55] <cafuego_> lisapc: Why wouldn't it?
[12:55] <lisapc> cafuego, ok :-)
[12:56] <DarkX> Yay i have steam n all my counterstrike games working fine in linux
[12:56] <cafuego_> ffmpeg -i foo.avi -f dvd foo.mpg
[12:56] <bruenig> tovid is really easy for avi to dvd mpg
[12:56] <DarkX> oops that was ment for #offtopic
[12:56] <DarkX> heh
[12:56] <Factory> DarkX, Nice. Is steam native or is it underwine?
[12:56] <wes_1977> can I unload a module after my system boots? If so, what cmd is used?
[12:56] <Factory> Ah, you can msg it if you want, DarkX
[12:56] <cafuego_> outputs a dvd compliant MPEG4/MP3 file.
[12:57] <DarkX> using crossover linux pro
[12:57] <lisapc> cafuego, that command didnt work: Unknown input or output format: dvd-pal
[12:57] <DarkX> i will never use windows ever again :D
[12:57] <nixnoob> i have a weird problem compiling a new kernel does anyone want to see the pastebin?
[12:57] <MadDog011> can any one help me, I am trying to install the binary drivers for NVIDIA but I don't know how to unload the NVIDIA module... ( old one )
[12:57] <DarkX> any1 have a good website for linux native games
[12:57] <MadDog011> can anyone help me :(
[12:57] <Factory> DarkX, Ubuntu File Storage =)
[12:57] <bruenig> !ati | MadDog011
[12:57] <ubotu> MadDog011: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:57] <DarkX> MadDog011, which driver
[12:58] <EdBoy> How do I get Wine to work? xD
[12:58] <lisapc> cafuego, what do I ned to change in that command?  remove the pal word?
[12:58] <bruenig> EdBoy, you install it then you do "wine /path/to/exe"
[12:58] <cafuego_> ffmpeg -i foo.avi -f dvd foo.mpg
[12:58] <MadDog011> DarkX, Downloaded the .run file
[12:58] <lisapc> cafuego, ok
[12:58] <DarkX> Factory: i mean like UT2004
[12:58] <DarkX> etc
[12:58] <EdBoy> .... oh I get it
[12:58] <Factory> Ah, so natively, DarkX ?
[12:58] <DarkX> yeah..UT is coming out on linux nativly
[12:58] <DarkX> looking for a store that might carry it online
[12:58] <DarkX> ya kno?
[12:59] <Jugo23> When is it coming out?
[12:59] <PriceChild> MadDog011, you shouldn't have to unload the old one
[12:59] <Factory> DarkX, Ah I see. I don't know personally =/.
[01:00] <kraypius> Slart, you still there?
[01:00] <Slart> kraypius: yup, find anything?
[01:00] <MadDog011> PriceChild, when I type sh NVIDIA.... I get a error saying: kernel module nvidia appears to already be loaded in your kernel. this may be because it is in use..
[01:00] <MadDog011> it may be in use by the Windows X
[01:01] <kraypius> I figured out how to fix it. just so u know.. u have to go back a step, delete the ext part u intendto use as root, recreate it, and proceed
[01:01] <PriceChild> MadDog011, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:01] <MadDog011> what processes do I need to kill to kill the X completely
[01:01] <PriceChild> MadDog011, sudo modprobe -r nvidia
[01:01] <cafuego_> PriceChild: the nviadia installer eally likes X to not be running
[01:01] <Slart> kraypius: ah.. it didn't like it precreated?.. well.. you learn every day =)
[01:01] <PriceChild> cafuego_, way ahead of you ;)
[01:01] <Moniker42> hey, keyboard issue. how do i set it to a UK keyboard? (i expect problems in this by the way i just want to make sure im going about it the right way in the first place) :)
[01:02] <MadDog011>  etc/init.d/gdm does nto exist
[01:02] <skogen> hello
[01:02] <MadDog011> I am using XORG
[01:02] <MadDog011> I think
[01:02] <skogen> can anyone help me with apache?
[01:03] <veganri> hi, does someone know how to make xgamma permanent when booting
[01:03] <Kikkoman> What program should I burn Ubuntu dvd in?
[01:03] <PriceChild> !anyone | skogen
[01:03] <ubotu> skogen: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:03] <veganri> try k3n kikko
[01:03] <Kikkoman> Eh
[01:03] <Kikkoman> Is that for windows?
[01:03] <veganri> try nero on windows
[01:03] <Kikkoman> Ok
[01:03] <Moniker42> skogen, he just likes using factoids, ask a question - or try #apache
[01:03] <Kikkoman> What do I do though
[01:03] <Kikkoman> I mean
[01:03] <veganri> say burn iso
[01:03] <DarkX> Factory, http://www.lokigames.com/
[01:04] <DarkX> ;)
[01:04] <Kikkoman> Do I just burn the iso straight up?
[01:04] <veganri> yes there is a choice to burn an iso
[01:04] <cables> Kikkoman, there's a free ISO burner if you need one.
[01:04] <Kikkoman> What is it?
[01:04] <Factory> DarkX, Woo. Never even considered to look for loki's website. Thank you =D
[01:04] <cables> Kikkoman, the free one?
[01:04] <veganri> it should be pretty obvious
[01:04] <Kikkoman> Yeah
[01:04] <Moniker42> skogen, !lamp has a good guide to follow if youre setting up apache for the first time
[01:04] <shatrat> Kikkoman, burn as slow as possible to minimize errors.
[01:04] <Moniker42> hey, keyboard issue. how do i set it to a UK keyboard? (i expect problems in this by the way i just want to make sure im going about it the right way in the first place) :)
[01:04] <Kikkoman> I have Nero, but it's not installed on the compy with a dvd burner :D
[01:04] <cables> !who | Kikkoman
[01:04] <ubotu> Kikkoman: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:04] <cables> Kikkoman, http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[01:05] <shatrat> Moniker42, I havent done it, but cant you do it in System / Preferences / Keyboard?
[01:05] <veganri> hi, does someone know how to make xgamma permanent when booting
[01:05] <Moniker42> shatrat, yes, but i get loads of weird X server errors when i select UK
[01:05] <skogen> Moniker42: where do i find this guide?
[01:05] <crusoe> Anyone know how to change permissions on a hard drive?
[01:05] <Moniker42> !lamp | skogen
[01:05] <ubotu> skogen: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:06] <veganri> ie if i want to add terminal commands when i boot ubuntu, how do i do that
[01:06] <Moniker42> shatrat, and the default US english which ive selected now should just have a couple of keys wrong but instead, loads of them are wrong.
[01:06] <grayscale_> c' qualche italiano?
[01:07] <crusoe> Anyone know how to change permissions on a hard drive?
[01:07] <Moniker42> !italiano | grayscale
[01:07] <ubotu> grayscale: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:07] <grayscale_> grazie nn lo sapevo :)
[01:07] <Moniker42> grayscale, i have no idea what you just said ;)
[01:07] <victori_> d
[01:07] <shatrat> Moniker42, makes me glad I speak american like elvis and jesus.  Maybe you should google the X error you were getting though, that usually turns up something. Good luck.
[01:07] <crusoe> Anyone know how to change permissions on a hard drive?
[01:08] <Moniker42> shatrat, shame the effink printscreen isnt working :|
[01:08] <PanzerMKZ> chmod?
[01:08] <lisapc> cafuego, is it normal for the mpeg to be half size of the AVI?
[01:08] <cafuego_> lisapc: Depends on the AVI eh?
[01:08] <shatrat> Moniker42, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lines that start with EE and youll get xorg errors
[01:09] <veganri> mpg could be 1/10 size of avi
[01:09] <cafuego_> or 3/4
[01:09] <lisapc> cafuego, that end mpeg is all blocky and sound is horrid.  How can I convert thiis AVI and keep the quality?
[01:09] <cafuego_> or larger
[01:09] <Moniker42> shatrat, pm
[01:10] <lisapc> is there any way to convert an AVI to MPEG and not lose sound or video quality? ffmpeg made it horrid :P
[01:10] <cables> lisapc, AVI is a container format... what's inside it?
[01:10] <PanzerMKZ> transcode?
[01:10] <PanzerMKZ> the proggie
[01:10] <crdlb> lisapc, mencoder will do a good job
[01:10] <cables> lisapc, try raising the bitrate on the mpeg. You might want to try "mencoder" with x264
[01:10] <lisapc> cables, a video
[01:10] <lisapc> crdlb, ok thanks
[01:11] <veganri> does someone know how to add terminal commands when booting ubuntu, how do i do that
[01:11] <cafuego_> add -b 2048 and -ab 320
[01:11] <greenhobo21> Anyone know how to get Soldat running on Linux Mint?
[01:11] <Cisyouc> veganri: what do you mean?
[01:11] <cafuego_> that'll make it a 2Mbit video stream and 320Kbit audio stream
[01:11] <lisapc> cableroy, mencoder x264 foo.avi foo.mpg ?
[01:11] <lisapc> cables, mencoder x264 foo.avi foo.mpg ?
[01:11] <cafuego_> I thought you were making a dvd?
[01:11] <veganri> cis:  i want to be able to add xgamma commands when i boot ubuntu so i can change my monitor gamma without having to redo the settings each boot
[01:12] <cables> lisapc, nope, I'll send you the command in a sec... it's sorta hard.
[01:12] <cafuego_> What you using x264 for?
[01:12] <lisapc> cafuego, i want to make that AVI play in a DVD player
[01:12] <lisapc> cables, ty
[01:12] <cables> lisapc, the manpage for mencoder is like 100 pages long, hold on a sec
[01:12] <lisapc> cables, ok
[01:12] <greenhobo21> Get cables.
[01:12] <Anabelle> hi, im trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, but the update-manager disapears when downloading the second file of the upgrade tool.... what can i do??
[01:12] <cables> lisapc, see if there's a frontend anywhere...
[01:12] <cafuego_> Just up the bitrate in ffmpeg
[01:12] <lisapc> cafuego, because cables said so :)
[01:12] <cables> lisapc, like cafuego_ said, have you tried raising the bitrate?
[01:13] <Cisyouc> veganri: if you make a bash script and drop it in /etc/init.d, you can add it to the init boot processes with /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
[01:13] <cafuego_> ffmpeg -i foo.avi -f dvd -n 2048 -ab 320 foo.mpg
[01:13] <lisapc> cables, ill look for that
[01:13] <bruenig> lisapc, you should install tovid, it has a very easy syntax (tovid -in whatever.avi -out whatever.mpg)
[01:13] <cables> lisapc, can I pm you? This may take some troubleshooting to get the command right.
[01:13] <nixnoob> can someone help me with this http://pastebin.com/898545 i get it when compiling a new kernel?
[01:13] <veganri> cis:  i just edit init.d and use the usr.... command in terminal ?
[01:13] <veganri> or what is a bash script
[01:13] <lisapc> bruenig, ok ty
[01:13] <lisapc> cables, yes
[01:13] <SEJeff> If anyone wants to see Dell computers preload, take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383861
[01:14] <Cisyouc> veganri: message me
[01:14] <SEJeff> *Preload Ubuntu
[01:14] <lisapc> bruenig, Couldn't find package tovid
[01:14] <crdlb> lisapc, look at: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-vcd-dvd.html
[01:14] <lisapc> k
[01:14] <victori_> anyone run eclipse on linux-ppc?
[01:14] <crdlb> lisapc, and scroll down to the examples section
[01:14] <bruenig> lisapc, yeah it is a go get it yourself package, it is in deb though if you can fin dit
[01:15] <lisapc> bruenig, ok
[01:15] <jbAU> anyone know what's the command for the printer administration utility ?
[01:15] <Cisyouc> The gnome utility?
[01:15] <jbAU> yeah -
[01:15] <crdlb> jbAU, gnome-cups-manager
[01:15] <jbAU> crdlb: ta
[01:15] <badkitty> Does anyone know of a channel for remote desktop stuff?
[01:15] <Kmikaze> hello mates i cant found on my synaptic screen the noip program or ddclient program
[01:16] <Kmikaze> how to install it?
[01:16] <PriceChild> !noip
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Anabelle> it keeps disappearing, i've checked ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop what else can be wrong?
[01:16] <PriceChild> !no-ip
[01:16] <ubotu> no-ip: A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[01:16] <PriceChild> Kmikaze, ^
[01:16] <Kmikaze> yes?
[01:16] <cafuego_> second generation; ooher.
[01:16] <Flannel> Kmikaze: ddclient is also in universe, (like no-ip)
[01:16] <Flannel> !universe | Kmikaze
[01:16] <ubotu> Kmikaze: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:16] <PriceChild> Kmikaze, Its called no-ip, not noip
[01:17] <Kmikaze> yes but how to install or use it?
[01:17] <Flannel> Kmikaze: you'll need to enable universe, first link there shows you how
[01:21] <Death_Sargent> anyone know if ubuntu takes advantage of the full 360 ball on the Apple Mighty Mouse
[01:21] <Death_Sargent> wondering if i need to add another Z axis identifier to my xorg config becuase there is already one there
[01:22] <adjioev> I use  gedit or eclipse and sometimes if I want select some text i use shift- arrow up/down. Usually it works but sometimes instead of selecting it prints "2" or "8". how do i switch this mode off?
[01:22] <SEJeff> adjioev: It is called numlock. Press the numlock key and it will go away
[01:23] <JHSands> does the current fiesty release "upgrade" without reinstalling to the official relase?
[01:23] <PriceChild> JHSands, feisty in #ubuntu+1
[01:23] <Elllis1> i installed compiz & its not in the menu- what'd i do wrong?
[01:24] <PriceChild> Elllis1, #ubuntu-effects please
[01:24] <adjioev> is feisty the latest release?
[01:24] <Elllis1> k ty
[01:24] <PriceChild> !feisty | adjioev
[01:24] <ubotu> adjioev: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:26] <nixnoob> is there any way to up the kernel interrupt timer frequency without a recompile?
[01:26] <PriceChild> nixnoob, not afaik
[01:26] <cafuego_> if so, then via /proc
[01:26] <cafuego_> But sudo find /proc -iname "*freq*"  doesn't turn up anything.
[01:26] <nixnoob> pricechild can you tell me why i get this error when i compile a new kernel http://pastebin.com/898545
[01:27] <adjioev> where can i get something similar to windows download manager for ubuntu? to make it work with flashgot...
[01:27] <PriceChild> adjioev, my favourite is the dta extension for firefox
[01:27] <PriceChild> nixnoob, arg .com's so slow :)
[01:27] <nixnoob> yes pastebin is always slow
[01:28] <PriceChild> !paste | nixnoob
[01:28] <ubotu> nixnoob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:28] <PriceChild> nixnoob, that one's lovely :)
[01:28] <nixnoob> pricechild should i paste ther enow or will you wait?
[01:28] <PriceChild> nixnoob, I'm patient :)
[01:28] <PriceChild> its almost there
[01:28] <PriceChild> nixnoob, pastebin.ca is also a lot faster
[01:28] <sherlock> anyone here use a macbook????
[01:29] <PriceChild> !pm | adjioev
[01:29] <ubotu> adjioev: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[01:29] <nixnoob> pricechild i will remember that for next time...
[01:29] <PriceChild> nixnoob, I haven't a clue to the answer :)
[01:29] <nixnoob> lol
[01:30] <sherlock> anyone use ndiswrapper with gnomeNetworkManager?
[01:30] <nixnoob> pricechild could it be that i need to compile a vanilla 2.6.17 kernel and patch it?
[01:30] <PriceChild> nixnoob, Still not a clue :)
[01:30] <PriceChild> nixnoob, I know little about lots :)
[01:30] <nixnoob> pricechild lollers
[01:31] <skel> nixnoob: why do you want to up the interrupt, just curious
[01:31] <sherlock> anyone know a good guide to update an ubuntu kernel?
[01:31] <nixnoob> skel want to run a counters-trike source server need 500 fps serverside
[01:31] <nixnoob> skel with a low interrupt fps is stuck at 250
[01:32] <skel> nixnoob: ok maybe I'm a noob but isn't the fps "frames per second" and isn't that client side rendering?
[01:32] <nixnoob> skel i successfully compiled a 2.6.20 kernel with 1000hz however 2.6.20 needs to be patched in order to support the fglrx driver.....
[01:32] <nixnoob> skel im talking about server side fps, as in the number of times the server refreshes object positions
[01:33] <skel> nixnoob: ah ok so its not really fps, its something else
[01:33] <nixnoob> skel well on the source server it outputs the stats in FPS but thats what it really means
[01:34] <nixnoob> skel basically the server cant poll faster than the cpu....
[01:34] <skel> nixnoob: the client cpu?
[01:34] <nixnoob> skel no the server.
[01:34] <nixnoob> skel it affects shot registry and such
[01:35] <nixnoob> skel, as opposed to a smooth fluid motion on the client side
[01:35] <nixnoob> which is totally seperate
[01:35] <delight> how can i find out which package contains a certain installed file ?
[01:35] <skel> nixnoob: hmmm.. ok. so again I'm no expert on game servers let alone counter-strike, but I'd be very surprised that cs server is touching your fglrx driver at all
[01:36] <nixnoob> skel, its not its the 2.6.20 kernel that has a bug in it
[01:36] <lisapc> cables, its turning my 300MB avi into 2gig mpeg :P hehe
[01:36] <skel> nixnoob: I'm not trying to argue, I just think you may have a red-herring
[01:36] <cables> lisapc, lucky DVD's are 4.7 gigs
[01:36] <lisapc> cables,  hehe
[01:37] <nixnoob> skel, again its not the server affecting my fglrx its the new kernel 2.6.20 that i compiled FOR the server
[01:37] <active> sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:37] <lisapc> cables, why does it turn 300MB avi into 2 gig mpeg?
[01:37] <cables> lisapc, could you tell me what codec's in that AVI? I'm curious... right click, properties, Audio/Video tab
[01:37] <binary0> o... that was not so clever from me... i just did a chmod -R 777 .* from within /var
[01:37] <nixnoob> skel, the 2.6.20 kernel has a bug with the fglrx driver
[01:37] <active> i get  permission dennied any ideas pleae
[01:37] <cables> lisapc, depends on the bitrate you put in and the type of video
[01:37] <crusoe> I've got an Audigy 2 ZS, and I'm not getting any sound? Any ideas?
[01:37] <totowroe> hi... Would anybody here be willing to help a n00b? I just ran my first install of ubuntu... I am also unfamiliar with IRC.
[01:37] <britt> how come i can start beryl-manager fine by terminal, but the process never loads when i select "Beryl Manager" from the menu?
[01:38] <lisapc> cables, xvid mpeg4
[01:38] <cables> !ask | totall_6_7
[01:38] <ubotu> totall_6_7: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:38] <PriceChild> totowroe, just ask your question :)
[01:38] <cables> !ask | totowroe
[01:38] <ubotu> totowroe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:38] <totowroe> hahah ok :D
[01:38] <PriceChild> britt, > #ubuntu-effects
[01:38] <lisapc> cables, should bitrate be lower then?
[01:38] <cables> lisapc, just leave it, you're burning to DVD anyway...
[01:38] <skel> nixnoob: right.. but regardless.. cs server shouldn't be doing ANY rendering.. its only responsible for connection handling, right?
[01:38] <britt> seperate area for beryl issues?
[01:38] <lisapc> cables, vrc_maxrate=9800:vbitrate=5000
[01:38] <PriceChild> britt, yeah
[01:38] <britt> thz
[01:38] <britt> thx*
[01:39] <totowroe> Why won't my onboard wireless controller connect?  it isnt even showing on the device manager
[01:39] <cables> lisapc, if it starts getting too big, you could just stop it.
[01:39] <cables> Does anyone know of a good mencoder frontend?
[01:39] <PriceChild> totowroe, what chipset is it?
[01:39] <skel> nixnoob: ie, you should be able to setup cs server and then remove the video card entirely and startup your server (provided you have rc scripts) and it should work fine.
[01:39] <cables> !wifi | totowroe
[01:39] <ubotu> totowroe: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:39] <skel> nixnoob: maybe I'm lost :-P
[01:39] <totowroe> i have a compaq pres v5xxx
[01:39] <Kmikaze> any1 can help me on private chat please  alots of chats at same time here send private please
[01:39] <totowroe> ill go check that documantaion, thx
[01:39] <totall_6_7> np cables when i have a question i will be sure to do just that ;D
[01:40] <PriceChild> !pm | Kmikaze
[01:40] <ubotu> Kmikaze: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[01:40] <Kmikaze> problem with dyndns
[01:40] <Gigs2> when I rebooted after a power failure just now my time was off by an hour for a while, it was like the daylight savings change didn't get saved to the hwclock... is this common?
[01:40] <skel> hwclock doesn't do DST
[01:40] <skel> your System adjusts
[01:40] <Gigs2> then why was it off by an hour just now for like 5 minutes after my system booted?
[01:40] <Gigs2> shouldn't the OS have adjusted immediately?
[01:41] <skel> not sure, just saying its not the cmos clock :)
[01:41] <cables> totall_6_7, in case you're wondering, I tab-completed too early :)
[01:41] <skel> yeah it should have adjusted
[01:41] <skel> Gigs2: did you update tzdata ?
[01:41] <Gigs2> it did update last sunday correctly
[01:41] <Gigs2> the power failed today though
[01:41] <Gigs2> and when it came back up it was an hour off for a while
[01:41] <lisapc> cables, im going to try Tovid
[01:41] <skel> Gigs2: then it self corrected or you had to?
[01:42] <totall_6_7> cables: hehe i know just playing :D
[01:42] <Gigs2> it corrected, I assume using ntp
[01:42] <Gigs2> no actually it looks like ntp is off
[01:42] <Gigs2> weird
[01:42] <active> sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:42] <skel> Gigs2: hmm yeah thats weird..
[01:42] <active> i get  permission dennied any ideas pleae
[01:42] <skel> Gigs2: maybe you sync to someone who didn't update :-P
[01:43] <Gigs2> skel: not unless ubuntu ran ntpdate on its own
[01:43] <Gigs2> because ntpd isn't on
[01:43] <skel> Gigs2: wonder if the powerfailure ill-affected the cmos clock?
[01:44] <Gigs2> skel: I'm actually not too concerned about it on my desktop system but I wonder if this might affect servers
[01:44] <Gigs2> like things that do kerberous on boot or nfs mounts might have trouble at boot time if the time is off for a while
[01:44] <skel> yeah
[01:45] <LordOfHeat> hello
[01:45] <Cisyouc> hello
[01:45] <mindstate> is there software i can map keyboard buttons to a usb gamepad buttons?
[01:45] <LordOfHeat> I have a problem, when i go to hibernation or suspend i get this error pnp: failed to activate device 00:0d
[01:45] <LordOfHeat> what does it mean?
[01:46] <Gigs2> device 00:0d failed to activate
[01:46] <Gigs2> :P
[01:46] <LordOfHeat> lol
[01:47] <PriceChild> LordOfHeat, "lspci" will tell you which bit doesn't like it
[01:47] <xtknight> heh
[01:47] <xtknight> well
[01:47] <xtknight> *phew* back to the drawing board...i mean eating cookies and answering ubuntu questions
[01:47] <LordOfHeat> with lspci | grep 00:0d i get nothing
[01:48] <Cisyouc> xtknight: cookies? I'm jealous
[01:48] <xtknight> this would be a good job for retirees :P
[01:48] <lisapc> cables, it tuened out good. it turned it into widescreen too :)  from 300MB to 1.6Gig to be exact
[01:48] <cables> lisapc, not bad
[01:48] <cables> lisapc, turned it to widescreen?
[01:48] <lisapc> cables, it turned out better and widescreen :P
[01:48] <lisapc> cables, but it doesnt look stretched
[01:48] <cables> lisapc, it stretched it? weird...
[01:48] <cables> lisapc, how is that...
[01:48] <lisapc> cables, yeah
[01:49] <lisapc> no idea lol
[01:49] <ardchoille> xtknight: hahaha
[01:49] <Cisyouc> LordOfHeat: use lspci -n | grep 00:0d
[01:49] <cables> lisapc, cropped it maybe?
[01:49] <LordOfHeat> Cisyouc, still nothing
[01:49] <Cisyouc> Wait, no, I take that back.
[01:49] <Cisyouc> Yeah,
[01:49] <lisapc> no idea
[01:49] <stodge> Hey folks - is it easy to configure compiz/beryl with NVIDIA driver in Ubuntu?
[01:50] <lisapc> cables, did it great though :)
[01:50] <Cisyouc> LordOfHeat: One sec
[01:50] <ardchoille> stodge: /join #ubuntu-effects
[01:50] <Factory> stodge: for the love of christmas, that's so easy to find on google it's not even funny =(
[01:50] <PriceChild> !jfgi > Factory
[01:50] <dequeued> how do I get an ftpd?
[01:50] <cables> !beryl | stodge
[01:50] <ubotu> stodge: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:50] <dequeued> I couldn't find any ftp servers in the "package manager"
[01:51] <nixnoob> skel, you are correct about removing the video card but the server is a laptop and i use it for playing games sometimes as well
[01:51] <xtknight> dequeued, apt-cache search ftpd
[01:51] <Cisyouc> LordOfHeat: the package pnpbios-tools includes the app /usr/bin/lspnp -- try using this to find what device 00:0d is
[01:51] <skel> nixnoob: yeah, but I'm just saying that cs has no dependency on graphic rendering, so bug in fglrx or not, I really doubt its your bottleneck
[01:52] <dequeued> I wonder why it didn't appear in the Gnome app
[01:52] <xtknight> dequeued, not sure.  it does for me.  are your f t p and d keys different than mine?
[01:52] <xtknight> search 'description and name'
[01:53] <nixnoob> skel i kno its not, the bottleneck is the kernel timer interrupt frequency, the standard on ubuntu is 500hz i guess, i just compiled the 2.6.20 kernel with 1000hz and its fine except for the fact that it has issues with the fglrx driver. thats all really.
[01:53] <xtknight> eh
[01:53] <xtknight> tickless is pretty cool, too
[01:53] <xtknight> bottleneck for what is the kernel int freq tho?
[01:54] <EADG> !kde > EADG
[01:54] <nixnoob> xtkngiht the server side fps on my CS:S server
[01:54] <xtknight> nixnoob, i tend to think it's the game engine or sv_fps var in CS :o
[01:55] <chalmer> how do i access tha "terminal ?
[01:55] <nixnoob> xtknight, no i kno its the interrupt because when i use a kernel with 1000hz the server side fps shoots up to 500
[01:55] <xtknight> chalmer, app->acces->term
[01:55] <bruenig> chalmer, alt + f2, then type gnome-terminal
[01:55] <chalmer> k
[01:55] <chalmer> ty
[01:55] <cables> I tried the instructions here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend) for making Suspend work with nvidia-glx, but they made my system unstable. I'd really like to be able to suspend and hibernate, and have nVidia drivers too. Can anyone help me?
[01:55] <LordOfHeat> Cisyouc, lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[01:56] <m1r> gn ppl
[01:56] <Cisyouc> LordOfHeat: I have no idea. Sorry..
[01:56] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about esys laptops concing out without being able to adjust brightness
[01:56] <xtknight> nixnoob, interesting, try tickless
[01:56] <Arch_NME> if anyone know's anything regarding getting a UTstarcom 5740 EVDO cellular internet card with sprint service to work under ubuntu please pm me, I'll be idle in the chan for the next few hours as I do some of my own web research, sorry for spamming this again
[01:56] <LordOfHeat> Cisyouc, k, thx anyway
[01:56] <xtknight> LordOfHeat, what's your question
[01:56] <nixnoob> xtknight tickless?
[01:56] <gonzaloarg> hi
[01:57] <ozy1> need help, new to ubuntu, on installing hplip got error: Package install command failed with error code 100
[01:57] <xtknight> nixnoob, ingo molnar's realtime kernel patches
[01:57] <xtknight> nixnoob, i have a 2.6.20.2 deb patched
[01:57] <LordOfHeat> xtknight, when i go to suspend or hibernate i get failed to activate device 00:0d
[01:57] <gonzaloarg> im having a problem with bootsplash in ubuntu 64 edgy, its in black and white
[01:57] <bruenig> gonzaloarg, oh no
[01:57] <gonzaloarg> someone knows why?
[01:57] <nixnoob> xtknight can you send?
[01:57] <xtknight> LordOfHeat, eh what is 00:0d
[01:57] <xtknight> nixnoob, ill upload, no prob
[01:57] <LordOfHeat> xtknight, dunno
[01:57] <nixnoob> dcc?
[01:57] <xtknight> LordOfHeat, well what's it say in lspci
[01:57] <gonzaloarg> bruening?
[01:58] <LordOfHeat> xtknight, there is no 00:0d in lspci
[01:58] <xtknight> nixnoob, nah ill upload it probably
[01:58] <soleblaze> anyone know if there's a program to add/change tags to an ALAC file under linux?
[01:58] <xtknight> LordOfHeat, well d just means decimal afaik
[01:58] <nixnoob> xtknight to where?
[01:58] <xtknight> LordOfHeat, so 0:00
[01:58] <xtknight> nixnoob, my serv space, hold up
[01:58] <nixnoob> xtknight you are myhero
[01:58] <OldGeezer> 00:0d is hexadecimal for 13
[01:58] <xtknight> nixnoob, i386?
[01:58] <xtknight> oh true hexa, didnt think of that :P
[01:58] <nixnoob> i386 is good
[01:59] <xtknight> nixnoob, crap, it's 200 megs lol
[01:59] <nixnoob> WOW
[01:59] <xtknight> bleh let me investigate this
[01:59] <LordOfHeat> xtknight, if it is 0:00 then it is my graphic card
[01:59] <gonzaloarg> i have searched in google and in some forums and i cant find any solution
[01:59] <xtknight> LordOfHeat, nah nm it's 0d in hexadecimal
[02:00] <xtknight> nixnoob, my initrd is 40 megs and vmlinuz about 1.6 so obviously the whole thing isnt 200
[02:00] <nixnoob> xtknight i was just about to say how is tht possible my 2.6.20*.deb is 17MB
[02:00] <LucianSolaris> HELP!  I got gnomebaker to burn MP3s, except when I burn my cue file (which refers to a large mp3) it errors cdrdao was not compiled with mp3 support
[02:01] <LucianSolaris> how do I compile cdrdao with MP3 support?
[02:01] <xtknight> LucianSolaris, google it, dl a source tarball for it, get associated dev pkgs
[02:01] <xtknight> LucianSolaris, ./configure --with-mp3 support
[02:01] <cables> LucianSolaris, you could un-mp3 it and then burn it if you don't want to compile something.
[02:01] <snowpunk98> Is there anyway to set Xchat to autojoin this server and certain channels I want?
[02:01] <cables> snowpunk98, I'll tell you in #xchat
[02:01] <poningru> LucianSolaris: go install k3b it has that support
[02:02] <LucianSolaris> k3b does NOT nore does it read CUE files for mp3s
[02:02] <LucianSolaris> or it errors on CUE because it doesn't burn mp3
[02:02] <gonzaloarg> its a common problem in 64bits i read
[02:02] <LucianSolaris> this is 32bit
[02:02] <bruenig> LucianSolaris, k3b does have mp3 support
[02:02] <bruenig> !info libk3b2-mp3
[02:02] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB
[02:03] <xtknight> nixnoob, might be awhile till i figure out what's going on here
[02:03] <upd> hi
[02:03] <LucianSolaris> then explain to me why it errors that the mp3 file isn't the correct length and that it has to 'lengthen' it?
[02:03] <bruenig> !howdy | upd
[02:03] <ubotu> upd: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:03] <nixnoob> xtknight, when you figure it out please PM me
[02:03] <bruenig> LucianSolaris, did you install libk3b2-mp3
[02:03] <upd> how can i change  calor in terminal localhost@localdomain:~$ this
[02:04] <Cisyouc> upd: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/prompt-magic.xml is a good guide.
[02:04] <bruenig> upd, that question was incoherent
[02:04] <ardchoille> upd: There's an example of that in ~/.bashprofile I believe
[02:04] <xtknight> does a kernel image need to contain anything more than vmlinuz and initrd to install properly?  do i need the /lib/modules inside kernel image, etc?  its like 400mb
[02:04] <LucianSolaris> bruenig it wasn't, but let's see if this works
[02:04] <upd> ok tnx
[02:04] <nixnoob> xtknight the two .deb files should be enough...
[02:05] <nixnoob> xtknight, the image and the headers
[02:05] <xtknight> nixnoob, heck if i know dude, tihs is Feisty they prolly have debug stuff or something making it huge, i really dont know
[02:05] <xtknight> nixnoob, image is 200mb, headers is 20 or so
[02:05] <cables> Is it safe to remove linux-headers packages?
[02:05] <xtknight> nixnoob, hows about i walk you through compiling 2.6.20.2 on your sys
[02:05] <nixnoob> xtknight, lol how is fiesty does it have xgl/beryl support standard?
[02:05] <xtknight> nixnoob, nope, they ditched that idea other than that i like it, better core 2 duo platform support
[02:06] <nixnoob> xtknight, wife is nagging me so i doubt i can do it now.
[02:06] <ardchoille> nixnoob: I heard that was left out of feisty due to being still unstable
[02:06] <xtknight> nixnoob, poor baby
[02:06] <xtknight> :P
[02:06] <gonzaloarg> where i can find some help about it?
[02:06] <nixnoob> xtknight, im using it now, just a few glitches but i think its stable enough.
[02:06] <hak0> | apt mirror
[02:06] <LucianSolaris> k3b errors on mp3 files: UNSUPPORTED FORMAT
[02:06] <LucianSolaris> after I installed libk3b2-mp3
[02:06] <Monoxide> anyone know how I can install Ubuntu without going into the live boot section to install
[02:06] <bruenig> LucianSolaris, you restarted k3b right?
[02:06] <LucianSolaris> yes
[02:06] <xtknight> Monoxide, alternate install disc
[02:06] <cables> !alternate | Monoxide
[02:06] <ubotu> Monoxide: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:07] <xtknight> Monoxide, why does the Live crash or something?
[02:07] <bruenig> LucianSolaris, sucks for you I guess, works perfectly here
[02:07] <nixnoob> xtknight ill hunt you down another time for that walkthrough
[02:07] <xtknight> nixnoob, ok
[02:07] <hak0> | apt-mirror
[02:07] <hak0> ! apt-mirror
[02:07] <ubotu> apt-mirror: APT sources mirroring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 116 kB
[02:07] <LucianSolaris> oh shit, guess i didn't restart it
[02:07] <Monoxide> yes and no. it gives me an error saying seassion manager something then freezes
[02:07] <PriceChild> !ohmy | LucianSolaris
[02:07] <ubotu> LucianSolaris: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:08] <LucianSolaris> i have 12 desktops and i switch between them using a customized 3ddesktop
[02:08] <LucianSolaris> so yea, it works bruenig
[02:08] <bruenig> I have one desktop, I am such a loser
[02:08] <xtknight> lil overkill ?
[02:08] <LucianSolaris> nah
[02:08] <Monoxide> so 6.06 tyl might boot in text mode
[02:08] <|caicai|> hei
[02:08] <Monoxide> 6.10 x32 does not
[02:08] <LucianSolaris> if i don't feel like closing anything, i just switch to a fresh desktop
[02:08] <xtknight> i have one desktop, and..an oven mitt here for some reason
[02:08] <LucianSolaris> i have 12
[02:08] <bruenig> well drop your ram to 377 and you will feel like closing stuff
[02:08] <ardchoille> LucianSolaris: Wow, talk about lazy, lol
[02:08] <robjo> ntp confusion, help please
[02:08] <|caicai|> how i upgrade me ubuntu version to 6.10??
[02:08] <|caicai|> i have 6.06
[02:08] <xtknight> not uncommon for me to have 50 FFs open with 5 tabs apice
[02:09] <LucianSolaris> any more and the desktops start fallong off the bottom of the screen in 3ddesktop
[02:09] <cables> !EdgyUpgrades | |caicai|
[02:09] <xtknight> had to get a faster cpu to offset my habits
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgyupgrades - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <LucianSolaris> i would have 20 if it wasn't for that fact
[02:09] <LucianSolaris> i have 2 gigs of ram
[02:09] <ofer> I am trying to run argouml -  a java software
[02:09] <ofer> java -jar argouml.jar
[02:09] <ofer> but nothing working
[02:09] <xtknight> jar jar
[02:09] <Monoxide> ubotu: Alternitive Install Disk Link
[02:09] <Jetfighter> !upgrades | |caicai|
[02:09] <ubotu> |caicai|: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:09] <LucianSolaris> puny 300 MBs
[02:09] <cables> |caicai|, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[02:09] <|caicai|> tks
[02:09] <LucianSolaris> and this is a laptop :)
[02:09] <ofer> xtknight: ?
[02:10] <ofer> this is not the right command java -jar argouml.jar
[02:10] <Crockett> when will the next release version of ubuntu be out ?
[02:10] <robjo> switching from SUSE which had a ntp script in /etc/init.d taking start stop or restart as arguments cannot find equivalent for ubuntu?
[02:10] <bruenig> !feisty | Crockett
[02:10] <ubotu> Crockett: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:10] <LucianSolaris> i'd love 3ddesktop to update all its desktops once a minute or once every 30 seconds at low priority (as not to disrupt my media, etc)
[02:11] <xtknight> ofer, sorry dunno
[02:11] <cables> LucianSolaris, for it to do that, it has to switch to the desktops.
[02:12] <|caicai|> how i can edit the program GRUB??
[02:12] <cables> LucianSolaris, there's a command to get it to update, but it cycles through all of them.
[02:12] <LucianSolaris> too bad it couldn't just ask the DE
[02:12] <cables> |caicai|, how do you want to change it?
[02:12] <jamesw> /j/w 8
[02:12] <|caicai|> no, i want to eliminate some lines of it
[02:13] <xtknight> |caicai|, what's the goal?
[02:14] <xtknight> Crockett, mine has an ntp service
[02:14] <|caicai|> when i update my ubuntu it apears more lines on it then i want to eliminate some lines
[02:14] <n1ce> connect #ubuntu
[02:14] <Jetfighter> >.<
[02:14] <xtknight> |caicai|, you mean you have more kernels than you'd like at the grub startup selection screen?
[02:14] <xtknight> |caicai|, `gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst`
[02:15] <|caicai|> yes
[02:15] <xtknight> remove at your will
[02:15] <Jetfighter> WHAT the hell?
[02:15] <|caicai|> tks xtknight
[02:15] <xtknight> Jetfighter, i dont know, you tell me?
[02:15] <bruenig> !ohmy | Jetfighter
[02:15] <ubotu> Jetfighter: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:15] <Jetfighter> I'm running hamachi. It refuses to make sense.
[02:15] <Jetfighter> HELL isn't a bad word.
[02:15] <xtknight> ah hamachi , used that before
[02:15] <bruenig> !ohmy | Jetfighter
[02:16] <xtknight> !ask | Jetfighter
[02:16] <ubotu> Jetfighter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:16] <JohnPhys> xtknight:  it might be better to have him change the "howmany" line to 2 (keep last 2 kernels) and run update-grub
[02:16] <xtknight> JohnPhys, interesting never knew about it.  how would it affect the windows lines?
[02:16] <Jetfighter> Hell. xtknight, I use sudo hamachi start and it says starting...ok. I hamachi join network pass, it says it doesn't appear to be running,
[02:17] <xtknight> guess it ran
[02:17] <JohnPhys> xtknight:  It didn't in my case, nor did it affect my debian lines.  It only affects the lines in the "automagically generated" section.
[02:17] <cables> Can anyone explain "System Load" to me? How is it computed?
[02:17] <Jetfighter> Did you say something? Sorry :(
[02:17] <xtknight> JohnPhys, ahh cool.  yeah perhaps he should check it out.  |caicai| ^^^^
[02:18] <Jetfighter> Hell. xtknight, I use sudo hamachi start and it says starting...ok. I hamachi join network pass, it says it doesn't appear to be running,
[02:18] <xtknight> Jetfighter, nah not really.  heh.. did you run sudo tuncfg sudo hamachi init sudo hamachi start..
[02:18] <|caicai|> is done
[02:18] <|caicai|> thank you very much
[02:18] <Jetfighter> Yeah, it's worked once before
[02:18] <JohnPhys> xtknight:  I'm also not sure of the howmany value gets reset to "all" on the installation of a new kernel, but if it *doesn't* I keep mine at 2, so I'd have the new (potentially bad) kernel, and the old (definitely working) kernel.
[02:18] <MadDog011> :( I have installed the RUN file from the www.nvidia.com site, and it has kinda killed my linux box, the performance is choppy and I think it isnt accelerated... what do I do....
[02:18] <xtknight> |caicai|, note the howmany value spoken about above by JohnPhys ^^^
[02:18] <xtknight> MadDog011, um slower than before?
[02:18] <bruenig> !ati | MadDog011
[02:18] <ubotu> MadDog011: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:19] <Jetfighter> xtknight, wildfire@Wildfire-Laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo tuncfg sudo hamachi init sudo hamachi start
[02:19] <Jetfighter> tuncfg: already running
[02:19] <xtknight> Jetfighter, lol i meant separate commands i was just too lazy to type the commas
[02:19] <wilo> hello guys
[02:19] <MadDog011> xtknight, yes slower
[02:19] <|caicai|> ok
[02:19] <bruenig> Jetfighter, is that all on one line?
[02:19] <wilo> i am after some elp with installing a system monitor for ubuntu
[02:19] <MadDog011> xtknight, Alot slower :)
[02:19] <Monoxide> what is the command to start install from text mode on 6.10 live cd
[02:19] <xtknight> MadDog011, alright so you using vesa driver now i assume?  or nvidia...what's actually running now
[02:20] <xtknight> Monoxide, gotta get the alternate cd
[02:20] <Monoxide> because if It start gnome it freezes
[02:20] <MadDog011> xtknight, it says the driver is nvidia
[02:20] <MadDog011> in the xorg.conf
[02:20] <Monoxide> u have a link
[02:20] <Jetfighter> I got it
[02:20] <xtknight> MadDog011, alright is glx enabled in extensinos or w/e
[02:20] <Jetfighter> I forgot sudo on hamachi join network
[02:20] <xtknight> extensions*
[02:20] <MadDog011> xtknight, glx is enabled
[02:20] <MadDog011> I do nto know if it works thought
[02:20] <xtknight> MadDog011, glxinfo | grep rendering
[02:21] <MadDog011> xtknight, direct rendering: Yes
[02:21] <xtknight> MadDog011, might need to change acceleration method to XAA or something, dont really know
[02:22] <xtknight> MadDog011, what video card
[02:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, where do you do that
[02:22] <xtknight> Monoxide, yes hold on
[02:22] <xtknight> MadDog011, dont know actually
[02:22] <EdBoy> Anyone remember that game where you race tux down like a glacier or something?
[02:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, Ge Force 4200 TI
[02:22] <xtknight> EdBoy, penguin racer
[02:22] <EdBoy> and it went really really fast
[02:22] <xtknight> or tuxracer
[02:22] <xtknight> !info tuxracer | EdBoy
[02:22] <ubotu> edboy: Package tuxracer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:22] <EdBoy> Tux Racer is go karts.
[02:22] <xtknight> didnt use to be
[02:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, Well Beryl doesn't work anymore
[02:22] <JohnPhys> Penguin Planet Racer, I think
[02:22] <bruenig> !info planet-penguin-racer
[02:22] <ubotu> Package planet-penguin-racer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:22] <xtknight> !info planetpenguin-racer | EdBoy
[02:23] <ubotu> edboy: planetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-8 (edgy), package size 273 kB, installed size 744 kB
[02:23] <EdBoy> Found it!
[02:23] <EdBoy> xtknight was right
[02:23] <bruenig> stole my kill
[02:23] <xtknight> i can never find the ubuntu cd isos with google
[02:23] <EdBoy> lol
[02:23] <xtknight> GRR
[02:23] <EdBoy> One of my favorite games.
[02:23] <fastfinger> i need help with network, PPPoe connection but i dont think its dsl, it is cable
[02:23] <erstazi> The GNOME keyboard manager is very touchy in Edgy, it crashed more than once and now the icons for the menu's are not showing.
[02:23] <EdBoy> xtknight: why not try their website? o_0
[02:23] <xtknight> i only see mirrors in africa lol
[02:24] <EdBoy> where do you live?
[02:24] <xtknight> us
[02:24] <EdBoy> so why are you getting african mirrors
[02:24] <xtknight> just trying to find the link for alternate for Monoxide
[02:24] <EdBoy> ah
[02:24] <bruenig> xtknight, oh too bad you can't watch all those w32codecs files
[02:24] <xtknight> bruenig, huh?
[02:24] <Monoxide> same here
[02:24] <bruenig> or play encrypted dvds
[02:24] <fastfinger> can anyone help me with that?
[02:24] <PriceChild> bruenig, w32codecs isn't actually needed anymore...
[02:24] <xtknight> ahhh
[02:24] <Monoxide> but I am having no luck
[02:24] <xtknight> hehe
[02:24] <bruenig> wa
[02:24] <xtknight> right, as if i don't.. ;P
[02:24] <PriceChild> bruenig, ffmpeg should do everything you need
[02:24] <jrib> xtknight: it's usually faster to go straight to cdimages.ubuntu.com
[02:24] <|caicai|> xtknight,  i remove some of the kernels but when i update grub they come back
[02:24] <treb0r> get vlc
[02:24] <xtknight> jrib, thanks thats what im looking for
[02:24] <JohnPhys> PriceChild:  why isn't w32codecs needed?
[02:25] <xtknight> |caicai|, you need to remove them from automagic ro something
[02:25] <wes_1977> I'll pay somebody $50 if they can get my laptop connected to my wireless network. In fairness, I know the wireless card and router work fine in WindowsXP as recently as this morning (I installed it just to confirm wireless card working)
[02:25] <PriceChild> JohnPhys, ffmpeg "should" do everything you need
[02:25] <treb0r> just get vlc
[02:25] <xtknight> ffmpeg has wmv9 support
[02:25] <xtknight> no support for wma3, bwt
[02:25] <xtknight> still need w32
[02:25] <JohnPhys> |caicai| :  "update-grub" looks at teh menu.lst file for options, then at the installed kernels, and makes a new menu.lst
[02:25] <wes_1977> also, if anyone is interested, I've been through everything I can find on the internet of things to try and so far nothing has worked
[02:25] <xtknight> jrib, those are dvds
[02:26] <wes_1977> and I know the chipset is supported by the madwifi drivers
[02:26] <wilo> can someone help install a system monitor on ubuntu
[02:26] <wilo> please
[02:26] <JohnPhys> |caicai| : so if you remove the kernel entries from menu.lst, when you update grub those will be restored
[02:26] <Monoxide> I can do a dvd install
[02:26] <Monoxide> if you can find me an alternitive image of it
[02:26] <Monoxide> :D
[02:26] <JohnPhys> |caicai| :  try changing the "howmany = all" line in menu.lst to "howmany = 2"
[02:26] <xtknight> this is driving me nuts
[02:26] <wilo> HELLO
[02:26] <JohnPhys> |caicai| :  then update grub
[02:27] <xtknight> Monoxide, there you go sheesh http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[02:27] <Monoxide> thanks alot
[02:27] <|caicai|> ok i will do that
[02:27] <xtknight> Monoxide, dvd also has alternate install right on it along with livecd....well as far as i know.. but use the above for sure
[02:27] <robjo> ntp client, do I just run ntpd after setting up ntp.conf?
[02:27] <Monoxide> now my laptop will run
[02:27] <xtknight> robjo, hrm just let ubuntu handle it?
[02:27] <jrib> xtknight: weird, I thought they had them all there
[02:27] <null377> can some one help me with beryl
[02:27] <xtknight> robjo, right click at top right adjust date and time, sync with a time server etc
[02:28] <robjo> xtknight, what do you mean let ubuntu handle it?
[02:28] <K3nto> !ddraw
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ddraw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <xtknight> robjo, i never had to touch an ntp file to get it to sync with NTP
[02:28] <thiesen> bruenig: Yo man... still there??
[02:28] <xtknight> unless u want to tweak it, nothing against that.  but ur just making more work for urself if you just want a simple ntp thing
[02:29] <thiesen> bruenig: That thing about rc.local rocks... :-)
[02:29] <whileimhere> I am using SoundConverter to convert some ogg to mp3s and the mp3 option under prefs is greyed out. Can anyone tell me why?
[02:29] <JohnPhys> |caicai|: after you update grub, you can check the menu.lst file to see how many ubuntu kernels are there without rebooting
[02:29] <bruenig> thiesen, yeah very handy
[02:29] <robjo> xtknight, I would like ntp client (ntpd?) to run when I'm connected to the internet but obviously not when I am offline
[02:29] <JohnPhys> |caicai|:   and let me know if it works!
[02:29] <|caicai|> JohnPhys,  it worked
[02:29] <xtknight> robjo, ntpd is ntp daemon, an ntp server
[02:29] <|caicai|> tks alot
[02:29] <globe> is there a package to run kde aps under gnome?
[02:30] <thiesen> bruenig: But no one other thing... how do I manually stop and restart the server since it gets started via rc.local??
[02:30] <jrib> globe: just install the kde app
[02:30] <stoney> hi
[02:30] <wildfire_> exit
[02:30] <xtknight> globe, should be able to do it with Qt libs.  they are still ELF linux apps
[02:30] <bruenig> globe, just sudo apt-get install whatever you want and all the kde libs will be installed to run that particular kde package
[02:30] <robjo> xtknight, well that's not what I am after then
[02:30] <bruenig> thiesen, the same way you would manually stop or restart it if you had started it yourself without rc.local
[02:30] <wes_1977> anyone that can help troubleshoot a wireless networking problem?
[02:30] <null377> does the ATI Radeon 200 graphix card work with beryl?
[02:30] <xtknight> robjo, what you are after is right in the ubuntu time options.  right click the clock, goto Adjust Date & Time, select Sync with Internet server.  you won't have to worry about anything
[02:30] <robjo> migrating from SUSE, they had a script in etc/init.d whcih started an ntp client anything similar here?
[02:31] <stoney> can someone pm me and help me setup a wireless connection from (basicly) scratch? please :)
[02:31] <jrib> !wireless | stoney
[02:31] <ubotu> stoney: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:31] <Nergar> hello, can someone tell me how to format a usb stick in ubuntu?
[02:31] <jrib> Nergar: use gparted
[02:31] <globe> jrib: it gives me errors about the kde inter-process communication. "Could not open network socket. Please check that the 'dcopserer' program is running!"
[02:31] <stoney> ubotu, thanks :)
[02:31] <xtknight> Nergar, format with VFAT?
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <xtknight> globe, sudo rm -rf ~/.kde; try again
[02:31] <Nergar> well, FAT32
[02:31] <bruenig> fat16 is perfect
[02:31] <xtknight> !thanks | stoneey
[02:31] <ubotu> stoneey: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:31] <robjo> xtknight, I'd like the synch to happen without me clicking anything, but I am not always online
[02:32] <xtknight> robjo, that's ok.  it simply wont do it when ur not online
[02:32] <Nergar> xtknight, i need it for windows FAT32 is good??
[02:32] <xtknight> Nergar, either that or ntfs.  but id choose fat32 for usb sticks
[02:32] <xtknight> Nergar, first unmount it
[02:32] <thiesen> bruenig: I know I can stop it from x... but then I suppose I have to start it from an terminal again...
[02:32] <Nergar> ok
[02:33] <bruenig> thiesen, right you would
[02:33] <Nergar> xtknight, done
[02:33] <bruenig> thiesen, you have to help the machine along, unless something has some definite pattern to it
[02:33] <xtknight> Nergar, then, `sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/scdx` where scdx is your usb stick
[02:33] <bruenig> then you can script it and cron it
[02:33] <thiesen> bruenig: Hmmm... would it be possible to register the csserver as an actual service??
[02:33] <Monoxide>  http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ is the dvd but I dont see it saying alternitive
[02:33] <globe> xtknight: sweet, thanks.  Why did that fix my problem?
[02:33] <Nergar> ok thanx xtknight
[02:33] <Monoxide> I had them ship me 606 6.10
[02:33] <robjo> xtknight, thanks I'll try it and see what happens.
[02:33] <bruenig> thiesen, don't know
[02:33] <Monoxide> and ect
[02:34] <xtknight> globe, reset the kde stuff
[02:34] <xtknight> globe, it reset the kde stuff*
[02:34] <Monoxide> I Ican enter text mode
[02:34] <jrib> Monoxide: scroll down, it says "alternate"
[02:34] <Monoxide> ok
[02:34] <Monoxide> ty
[02:34] <thiesen> bruenig: oh... but it sure would be nice to do that...
[02:34] <globe> xtknight: urm...okay. am I going to have to remember this for the future?
[02:34] <wilo> how do i fix broken dependacies?
[02:34] <xtknight> globe, doubt it.  one time screw up
[02:35] <wilo> i done a sudo synaptic
[02:35] <globe> xtknight: okay.  thanks.
[02:35] <thiesen> bruenig: but that suggestion you gave me did the trick...
[02:35] <jrib> wilo: what caused them?
[02:35] <wilo> globe, do you know how i can fix broken dependacies?
[02:35] <bruenig> thiesen, my suggestions usually do
[02:35] <wilo> i was trying to install a system monitor
[02:35] <bruenig> wilo, sudo apt-get install -f
[02:35] <jrib> wilo: how?
[02:35] <globe> exit
[02:36] <wilo> wilo@wilo-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[02:36] <wilo> Reading package lists... Done
[02:36] <wilo> Building dependency tree
[02:36] <wilo> Reading state information... Done
[02:36] <wilo> Correcting dependencies... failed.
[02:36] <wilo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:36] <wilo>   libfontconfig1: Depends: fontconfig-config (= 2.3.2-7ubuntu2) but 2.4.2-1.2 is installed
[02:36] <wilo> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[02:36] <wilo> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[02:36] <bruenig> wow
[02:36] <bruenig> why do people do that
[02:36] <xtknight> !paste | wilo
[02:36] <ubotu> wilo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:36] <jrib> !paste | wilo
[02:36] <thiesen> bruenig: Since that was the first solution you gave me I must say it was a very good... :-)
[02:36] <EdBoy> never did understand why PlanetPenguin Racer had such a slow mouse...
[02:36] <Nergar> xtknight, i tried lsusb but i don't know which devise is it
[02:36] <wilo> sorry
[02:36] <bruenig> wilo, sudo apt-get remove libfontconfig1
[02:36] <Bartek_> Heloo to everyone!
[02:37] <xtknight> EdBoy, i take it you're back here after giving the poor penguin several concussions?
[02:38] <bruenig> thiesen, calm down man, 20 different people in here could have told you about rc.local
[02:38] <xtknight> Nergar, `sudo lshw -class disk`
[02:38] <thiesen> bruenig: yeah... but you did it first... :-)
[02:38] <xtknight> not me...
[02:38] <EdBoy> xtknight: no, I tried fixing the video settings to make it stop skipping
[02:38] <EdBoy> and it didn't
[02:39] <EdBoy> And slowed down everything else.
[02:39] <EdBoy> Now it's better.
[02:39] <Monoxide> xtknight: I will have gnome wit this alternitive install untill i Install fluxbox
[02:39] <wilo> bruenig: i get this when i d oa sudo apt-get remove libfontconfig1
[02:39] <Bartek_> I am lookingfor a help on Desktop environment
[02:39] <wilo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10294/
[02:39] <thiesen> bruenig: do you know where I can find some good information about that rc.local file??
[02:39] <bruenig> !paste | wilo
[02:39] <ubotu> wilo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:39] <Monoxide> or xfce
[02:39] <xtknight> Monoxide, eh why not just install the command line system hehe
[02:39] <xtknight> !rc.local
[02:39] <wilo> i did: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10294/
[02:39] <Monoxide> I am a noob
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.local - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <Monoxide> and I like the visual appeal
[02:39] <xtknight> Monoxide, xubuntu?
[02:39] <thiesen> ty
[02:39] <xtknight> Bartek_, yes?
[02:39] <Monoxide> would that install on 128mb sdram
[02:40] <xtknight> yes
[02:40] <Monoxide> I am lookin to run fluxbox
[02:40] <xtknight> they dont have a Flubuntu yet ;P
[02:40] <bruenig> wilo, wow you are in serious trouble
[02:40] <Monoxide> they do
[02:40] <wilo> serious? :(
[02:40] <jrib> xtknight: fluxbuntu exists
[02:40] <Monoxide> I just dont trust it
[02:40] <sonnie> anyone used cacti? i have a question here.
[02:40] <xtknight> jrib, does it?
[02:40] <Lam_> i can $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset  to reset alsa. how can i do the same for OSS?
[02:40] <Bartek_> I am looking for some lightest possible desktop environment/window manager
[02:40] <Nergar> xtknight, mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[02:40] <Nergar> mkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sdb' (use -I if wanted)
[02:40] <Nergar> help?
[02:40] <xtknight> Nergar, yikes buddy not on your HD
[02:40] <wilo> bruenig: is their a solution?
[02:41] <Monoxide> bartek_ Fluxbox, Xfce
[02:41] <jrib> xtknight: yep, fluxbuntu.org
[02:41] <Bartek_> on which I could Install several
[02:41] <Bartek_> ...
[02:41] <Monoxide> ubuntu u can install several
[02:41] <Nergar> i don't know which device then
[02:41] <Monoxide> xubuntu
[02:41] <Monoxide> kbuntu
[02:41] <Bartek_> typicall apps plus Sun's Netbeans and JDK6
[02:41] <xtknight> Nergar, `sudo lshw -class disk`  paste the output on pastebin ill help ya
[02:41] <peacekpr> In xorg.conf, i am using the "radeon" driver for my radeon video card.  Is that the open source version?
[02:41] <Bartek_> for java development
[02:41] <xtknight> peacekpr, yes, binary blob is fglrx
[02:42] <Monoxide> I am unsure of java
[02:42] <bruenig> wilo, install this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fontconfig/fontconfig_2.3.2-7ubuntu2_i386.deb
[02:42] <Monoxide> I know you can use the java plugins
[02:42] <Bartek_> my machine is Celeron566Mhz 256 SDRAM 100Mhz
[02:42] <Monoxide> and install it
[02:42] <peacekpr> xtknight, aha.  and "ati" is the proprietary binary?
[02:42] <bruenig> wilo, that is the dependency that libfontconfig is crying about
[02:42] <wilo> it wont let me
[02:42] <xtknight> peacekpr, fglrx is proprietary binary (binary blob)
[02:42] <Monoxide> I am stuck with a 600mhz 128mb ram 100 laptop
[02:42] <jrib> bruenig: maybe we should take a look at wilo's sources.list?  The wrong version had to be installed somehow
[02:42] <stoney> how do i check my kernel version?
[02:42] <wilo> says i have broken dependacies already
[02:42] <xtknight> peacekpr, ati is for older cards, radeon is for r2xx and up i think, ati+radeon are open source
[02:42] <Bartek_> probably gonna upgrade to 500MB
[02:43] <xtknight> stoney, uname -a
[02:43] <Monoxide> 512 does a ubuntu sys good
[02:43] <stoney> thank you
[02:43] <wilo> bruenig: i either have to sudo synaptic or install -f
[02:43] <KeeNaF> hi guys .. i bought a new harddisk and use it as external with enclosure .. the problem is linux did not detect the hdd ... what should i do?
[02:43] <bruenig> jrib, yeah I thought about that, but they are all in main
[02:43] <peacekpr> xtknight, ok - it wasn't exactly clear to me :) ... now i have to figure out Xinerama or MergedFB
[02:43] <Nergar> xtknight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10295/
[02:43] <jrib> bruenig: well, the versions are the issue, he may have mixed repositories
[02:43] <bruenig> doesn't hurt
[02:43] <bruenig> wilo, pastebin the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:44] <xtknight> Nergar, hmm.  doesnt look like your usb key is showing there
[02:44] <JohnPhys> KeeNaF:  try the enclosure in another computer to make sure that it acutally works first, beyond that I'm not sure.  I do know that some kernels just don't play nice with interfaces on some enclosures.
[02:44] <Nergar> xtknight, any ideas then?
[02:44] <xtknight> Nergar, how did you unmount it?
[02:44] <Nergar> sudo umount /media/usbdisk
[02:44] <erne154> hello I am looking for information on the meeting in Houston tomorrow...Anyone know anything about it?
[02:44] <ping_tu> hello everyone
[02:44] <Nergar> xtknight, sudo umount /media/usbdisk
[02:44] <xtknight> Nergar, ok plug in the key again and do "df -h | grep usbdisk"
[02:45] <TheVault> I need some help with Frostwire. I just now installed it and it keeps asking me for my name for the community chat thing and I disabled the thing, and then it keeps asking. Then when I do enter a name and click apply, it says settings won't take effect until next restart and the thing shutsdown on its own
[02:45] <ping_tu> i make binutils in ubuntu, but have some quesstion
[02:45] <KeeNaF> JohnPhys .. yes .. it working ..
[02:45] <TheVault> is there a file or something I can edit to make this stop?
[02:45] <cisforcojo> hey guys, has anyone here got ubuntu running with a touchpad disabled?
[02:45] <peacekpr> xtknight, thanks for your help - hopefully i can work my way through this.
[02:45] <KeeNaF> how to format new hdd using linux?
[02:45] <ping_tu> regex.c:132: warning: conflicting types for built-in function malloc
[02:45] <ping_tu> In file included from /usr/local/include/bits/string2.h:1185,
[02:45] <ping_tu> from /usr/local/include/string.h:360,
[02:45] <ping_tu> from regex.c:151:
[02:45] <bruenig> KeeNaF, use gparted
[02:45] <Nergar> xtknight, /dev/sdb1             120M  842K  119M   1% /media/usbdisk
[02:45] <Nergar>  I try now with sdb1?
[02:46] <xtknight> ping_tu, you are remaking binutils?
[02:46] <jrib> cisforcojo: yes, I disable it in bios, but you can also use synclient
[02:46] <wilo> bruenig: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in terminal?
[02:46] <bruenig> wilo, yeah
[02:46] <ping_tu> yes
[02:46] <KeeNaF> bruenig .. how is it? .. :D
[02:46] <xtknight> ping_tu, out of curiosity why ?
[02:46] <cisforcojo> jrib: will synclient handle device event changes? everytime i reboot my computer it's different
[02:46] <ping_tu> but regex.c:132: error: previous declaration of malloc was here
[02:46] <xtknight> ping_tu, not sure that it will work with your setup
[02:46] <cisforcojo> /dev/input/event2 for example
[02:46] <xtknight> Nergar, eh, well sudo umount /media/usbdisk
[02:46] <TheVault> Need help with my frostwire problem
[02:46] <cisforcojo> i've tried it but didn't have much luck
[02:46] <xtknight> Nergar, ok here's what were going to do after that:
[02:47] <[0`0] > ! sendmail
[02:47] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB
[02:47] <xtknight> is there a command to create a DOS partition table?
[02:47] <jrib> cisforcojo: what do you want to accomplish?  Just turning off the touchpad forever?
[02:47] <xtknight> quickie besides fdisk?
[02:47] <cisforcojo> really, i'm not sure WHAT to put in xorg.conf to call the touchpad and find it regardless of hte event
[02:47] <wilo> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10297/
[02:47] <bruenig> !synaptics
[02:47] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[02:47] <cisforcojo> jrib: haha nono, i need the touchpad but I hate tapping
[02:47] <xtknight> Nergar, oh well.   `sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb`  make a DOS partition table
[02:48] <cisforcojo> i HAVE tapping disabled but I have to edit my xorg.conf and restart X everytime I reboot my computer ( to direct it to the event the touchpad is running on)
[02:48] <Frogzoo> cisforcojo: is this a synaptics touchpad?
[02:48] <cisforcojo> ALPS
[02:48] <Nergar> xtknight, sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb or sdb1??
[02:48] <erne154> ubuntu houston anyone?
[02:48] <xtknight> Nergar, sdb
[02:49] <jrib> cisforcojo: hmm what version of ubuntu? dapper?
[02:49] <bruenig> wilo, nothing too bad, you are using au and then in other places using just the default, but theoretically they should all have the same packages
[02:49] <xtknight> Nergar, bleh actually just quit out of cfdisk you shouldn't need it
[02:49] <cisforcojo> edgy
[02:49] <cinnix> i need help, i resized my primary ubuntu partition from 70gb - 150gb, now ubuntu seems laggy, somewhat more jumpy. is this common?
[02:49] <TheVault> I need some help with Frostwire please
[02:49] <cisforcojo> Edgy 6.10 fully upgraded
[02:49] <smo> hi i m checking the fee space on my usb key ( i run ubuntu from my usb key)  and my proc dir is bigggg is it normal 892 mo now ??
[02:49] <Nergar> xtknight, ok
[02:49] <xtknight> Nergar, by format i assumed you didn't have any partition table or anything.  obviously if it mounted though it has a partition table and even a partition.  if you want to wipe it...
[02:49] <bruenig> wilo, how about a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
 i find that gcc of version 3.4 have this question, but i use 4.1 now
[02:49] <xtknight> Nergar, sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdb1  (sdb1 this time)
[02:49] <victori_> what is -current in ubuntu?
[02:50] <cinnix> i cant move my cursor across the screen withpoout it jumping
[02:50] <wilo> bruenig: ill try tat
[02:50] <xtknight> victori_, current what?
[02:50] <cinnix> without*
[02:50] <victori_> bleeding edge
[02:50] <victori_> such as debian sid
[02:50] <Nergar> xtknight, mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)---- thats all??
[02:50] <xtknight> victori_, feisty
[02:50] <victori_> thanks, and I can apt-get to it correct?
[02:50] <victori_> nm don't answer
[02:50] <xtknight> dist-upgrade?  yes should be able to.  just note it's unstable
[02:50] <victori_> thats fine
[02:50] <xtknight> i assume you know that if youre speaking of sid..
[02:51] <victori_> correct I do
[02:51] <victori_> I just wanted a quick response to what I need to upgrade to, to get the newest packages
[02:51] <victori_> specifically eclipse
[02:51] <xtknight> Nergar, uhhh that's all it's saying?
[02:51] <wilo> bruenig:  i get this response
[02:51] <Morg0> why do all my apps keep closing when after the screen saver has been running a while (6.10)
[02:51] <wilo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10298/
[02:51] <Frogzoo> cinnix: either clean your mouseball, or use try a different mouse protocol
[02:51] <KeeNaF> how to format new hdd using linux?
[02:51] <Nergar> xtknight, yes, i mounted it and it is black
[02:51] <jrib> wilo: did you ever install deb's manually from feisty or have feisty in your sources?  Because that version is from feisty
[02:51] <xtknight> KeeNaF, you just bought a new HDD and you want to use it, correct?
[02:52] <Nergar> xtknight, blank**
[02:52] <jrib> wilo: actually, it's not feisty, it must be from debian
[02:52] <xtknight> Nergar, guess you're set then, right?
[02:52] <KeeNaF> xtknight .. yes ..
[02:52] <KeeNaF> :)
[02:52] <xtknight> KeeNaF, `gksu gparted` in terminal
[02:52] <wilo> jrib: yes it was from debian
[02:52] <KeeNaF> xtkmight .. k .. i try
[02:52] <jrib> wilo: yes, that's bad
[02:52] <Dreamxtreme> YEAH!!!!! IM IN ubuntu I've GONE OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE!!!!" ONLINE
[02:52] <wilo> :O
[02:52] <xtknight> KeeNaF, select the HDD that has a blank partition table . create new DOS partition table and make a partition
[02:52] <wilo> anyway to fix it?
[02:52] <bruenig> wilo, do this cd /tmp && wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fontconfig/libfontconfig1_2.4.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libfontconfig1_2.4.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[02:53] <Nergar> xtknight, wee, thanx a lot m8
[02:53] <bruenig> hm
[02:53] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: YO
[02:53] <bruenig> wilo, don't do that then
[02:53] <xtknight> Nergar, np
[02:53] <Dreamxtreme> i got it working
[02:53] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, cool
[02:53] <jrib> wilo: is that the only package that you installed that way?
[02:54] <xtknight> best thing to do with those pkg problems is to forcefully remove every pkg you see in the errors and then apt-get -f install
[02:54] <Dreamxtreme> wots this about broken packages
[02:54] <KeeNaF> xtknight .. once i time gksu gparted in terminal .. then password required .. I entered the passwd but nothing happen
[02:54] <KeeNaF> :(
[02:54] <wilo> bruenig: i got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10299/
[02:54] <xtknight> KeeNaF, give it a second to start?
[02:54] <jrib> cisforcojo: id if synclient will work right, I don't have too much experience with it.  But, what you can look into is creating a udev rule to create a symbolic link for your touchpad that has the same name all the time (this seems like it would work, but I don't know if there is an easier solution, I suspect there is)
[02:54] <bruenig> wilo, if you are mixing repos, dependency hell is a headache to troubleshoot
[02:55] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: how do i fix broken packages
[02:55] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, what's broken?
[02:55] <KeeNaF> xtknight .. nothing happen
[02:55] <xtknight> bruenig, wilo i suggest `sudo dpkg --purge --force fontconfig-config ` but see if you guys agree
[02:55] <wilo> jrib: no, well ill tell you wat i tried to do, i tried installing GKrellM 2.2.10 from http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
[02:55] <smo> how can i do to completely remove the localepackage  in  / dir ??? and keep only my locale or can i remove it by hand???
[02:55] <wilo> and it needed to dependacies, so d.l and installed them
[02:55] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight:  in add/remove i try to install packages and it tells me to fix broken ones first
[02:56] <wilo> but one stuffed up
[02:56] <xtknight> KeeNaF, you typed 'gksu gparted'?
[02:56] <xtknight> wilo, `sudo dpkg --force --purge fontconfig-config`
[02:56] <hole> anyone here know of a good portscanner for linux?
[02:56] <xtknight> !info nmap | hole
[02:56] <ubotu> hole: nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[02:56] <xtknight> !info nessus | hole
[02:56] <ubotu> hole: nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (edgy), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB
[02:56] <KeeNaF> xtknight .. yes .. now .. once i type .. this is appear .. sudo: gparted: command not found
[02:56] <xtknight> KeeNaF, oh.  `sudo apt-get install gparted` now
[02:56] <KeeNaF> k
[02:56] <hole> i've heard of nmap
[02:57] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, `sudo apt-get -f install` in terminal
[02:57] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, close synaptic first
[02:57] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, Add/Remove i mean
[02:57] <KeeNaF> xtknight .. this appear .. Reading package lists... Done
[02:57] <KeeNaF> Building dependency tree
[02:57] <KeeNaF> Reading state information... Done
[02:57] <KeeNaF> Package gparted is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:57] <KeeNaF> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:57] <KeeNaF> is only available from another source
[02:57] <KeeNaF> E: Package gparted has no installation candidate
[02:57] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: cheers
[02:57] <xtknight> !paste please use this instead of flooding the channel: | KeeNaF
[02:57] <xtknight> !paste | KeeNaF
[02:57] <ubotu> KeeNaF: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:58] <xtknight> KeeNaF, you have to use pastebin instead of paste all the text here as it floods.
[02:58] <KeeNaF> ooo
[02:58] <xtknight> KeeNaF, anyway what version of ubuntu are you running (`sudo lsb_release -a`)
[02:58] <KeeNaF> okok  .. sorry
[02:58] <PriceChild> xtknight, no need for sudo
[02:58] <KeeNaF> 6.10
[02:58] <KeeNaF> edgy
[02:58] <xtknight> KeeNaF, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:59] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: i can install packages now yeah???
[02:59] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, i dont know, what did -f install report?
[02:59] <PovAddict> hi
[02:59] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, (and pastebin please)
[03:00] <Dreamxtreme> hey PovAddict my channel???
[03:00] <wilo> xtknight: i tried that command, and got this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10300/
[03:00] <PovAddict> is there a way to upgrade Ubuntu from Dapper to Edgy, without a GUI?
[03:00] <hejsa> How do i enable grammar check in abiword, i got the link-grammar package, and has enabled grammar check in abiwords preferences... but no grammar check..
[03:00] <PovAddict> I'm connected remotely via ssh, the other computer is the other side of the world
[03:00] <xtknight> PovAddict, dist-upgrade
[03:00] <PovAddict> tried X forwarding and it took like 10 minutes to open the damned window
[03:00] <xtknight> !upgrade | PovAddict use the dist-upgrade method described in the following link
[03:00] <ubotu> PovAddict use the dist-upgrade method described in the following link: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:00] <PriceChild> PovAddict, you need to change all instances of dapper to edgy in your sources.list HOWEVER...
[03:01] <PriceChild> PovAddict, remove distribution upgrades are HIGHLY unrecommended.
[03:01] <PriceChild> s/remove/remote/
[03:01] <JohnPhys> xtknight:  what exactly are you doing when you write things like "!upgrade | whomever" ?
[03:01] <Dreamxtreme> PovAddict: im in #dreamxtreme
[03:01] <ping_tu> xtknight, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-3.4/+bug/26522, this same with my question
[03:01] <PovAddict> I read that dist-upgrade method isn't recommended...
[03:01] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: can you give me the command again
[03:01] <xtknight> JohnPhys, using the bot's preset responses and directing them towards a user
[03:01] <PovAddict> Dreamxtreme: who are you and why are you talking to me...?
[03:01] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, sudo apt-get -f install
[03:02] <PriceChild> !bot | JohnPhys
[03:02] <ubotu> JohnPhys: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:02] <xtknight> PovAddict, he's just saying hi
[03:02] <wilo> bruenig: any other ideas
[03:02] <Dreamxtreme> PovAddict: i spoke 2 u earlier didn't i some1 with the same name
[03:02] <PovAddict> I haven't been on IRC for days
[03:02] <JohnPhys> Nice (preset responses), wish I had those when I was grading exams.
[03:02] <wilo> wat i tired to do was install a system monitor, i didn't have the right dependacies, so i downloaded others from debian and tried installing htem
[03:02] <xtknight> dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `--purge'
[03:02] <wilo> is that where i went wrong? :(
[03:02] <xtknight> eh??
[03:02] <pettybone> I wanted to if someone could help me understand the mount windows shares permanently page. It gives me several warnings and I don't think I should do this alone.
[03:02] <xtknight> what am i doing wrong
[03:03] <jrib> wilo: try dpkg --force-depends --purge fontconfig-config   maybe
[03:03] <bruenig> wilo, I don't deal with mixed repos
[03:03] <xtknight> ohh
[03:03] <xtknight> it's force-all
[03:03] <bruenig> fontconfig-config has everything depend on it
[03:03] <wilo> bruenig: i dont either... i dont even know what i done :(
[03:03] <Ecco> HI
[03:03] <xtknight> that's ok we'll get the other one
[03:03] <xtknight> wilo, sudo dpkg --force-all --purge fontconfig-config
[03:03] <Jetfighter> I need java >.<
[03:03] <xtknight> watch the magic
[03:03] <bruenig> or I mean everything depends on fontconfig-config
[03:03] <reaspired> I see a package I want to install in ubuntu, but when I try, it says this package is for i386. I have pentium 4, shouldn't it work..
[03:04] <Ecco> somewone help me to make work ffmpeg with my webcam?
[03:04] <IcemanV9> !java | Jetfighter
[03:04] <ubotu> Jetfighter: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:04] <jrib> wilo: if it threatens to remove half your system, don't proceed...
[03:04] <bruenig> it will
[03:04] <Dreamxtreme> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10301/
[03:04] <xtknight> not if you do force/purge
[03:04] <jrib> we can probably force a downgrade
[03:04] <Ecco> E alguem fala portugues?
[03:04] <xtknight> it just ignores the stuff
[03:04] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10301/
[03:04] <Ecco> somewone help me to make work ffmpeg with my webcam?
[03:04] <jrib> !pt | Ecco
[03:04] <Jetfighter> I installed from Synaptics, but it's not loading an applet
[03:04] <ubotu> Ecco: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:05] <klepto> got a question.. rssowl opens an url in firefox but opens a new window not a new tab
[03:05] <xtknight> wilo, so...?  what was result of purge/force remove fontconfig
[03:05] <wilo> bruenig: thanks for you help by the way, much appreciated XD
[03:05] <ping_tu> the same with my question, anyone can help mey; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-3.4/+bug/26522
[03:05] <wilo> xtknight: i got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10302/
[03:05] <hejsa> How do i enable grammar check in abiword, i got the link-grammar package, and has enabled grammar check in abiwords preferences... but no grammar check..
[03:05] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, nothing is broken anymore
[03:05] <PovAddict> hmm
[03:05] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, youve got some updates to install, check your update manager
[03:06] <bruenig> wow it worked perfect
[03:06] <xtknight> wilo, now, `sudo apt-get -f install`
[03:06] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: rite o cheers
[03:06] <PovAddict> well I'm not flying to USA to do the upgrade... :P
[03:06] <MadDog011> Can someone help me fix my NVIDIA drivers please on linux, please private message me im doing this for 3 hours and its getting really annoying please pm me :(
[03:06] <xtknight> PovAddict, dont see a huge danger in dist-upgrade.  just dont be disappointed if you haev to travel the world to fix it if it doesnt work :D
[03:06] <PriceChild> !pm
[03:06] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[03:06] <PovAddict> but I'm not very confident on using dist-upgrade if you say it's not recommended... especially since I don't trust 100% my backup
[03:07] <PovAddict> oh well no way I would lose DATA anyway
[03:07] <xtknight> prolly not
[03:07] <xtknight> but you never know i guess
[03:07] <PriceChild> PovAddict, if the machine doesn't restart... what would you do?
[03:07] <MadDog011> Well, my drivers don't work when I type modprobe nvidia I get a error saying .../video/nvidia.ko no such file or directory
[03:07] <MadDog011> I installed everything from that instructions
[03:07] <xtknight> MadDog011, hrm i thought you were in nvidia?  what happened
[03:07] <MadDog011> xtknight, doesnt work...
[03:07] <PovAddict> PriceChild: ask the guy who is actually close to the machine, but who knows very little about Linux in general
[03:07] <MikeC2> whilst installing JRE something messed up, and now I can not seem to install it at all :|
[03:07] <MadDog011> xtknight, I uninstaled the run file
[03:08] <MadDog011> xtknight, and tried to use the apt-get nvidia-xgl thing...
[03:08] <MadDog011> but now I killed everything...
[03:08] <PriceChild> PovAddict, that's a real possibility
[03:08] <EduardoCorrea> somewone help me to make work ffmpeg with my webcam?
[03:08] <xtknight> wilo, getting it?  the problem will be fixed through persistence and speed :)
[03:08] <PovAddict> EduardoCorrea: how about #ffmpeg?
[03:08] <IcemanV9> !patience | EduardoCorrea
[03:08] <ubotu> EduardoCorrea: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:09] <xtknight> MadDog011, hmmm hold on.  well you need to get the nvidia drivers working before you use xgll....
[03:09] <EduardoCorrea> OK
[03:09] <pettybone> Requesting help trying to use samba. It tells me to run it from the root. I tried running it from the terminal but I received the same message.
[03:09] <MadDog011> xtknight, how do I do that?
[03:09] <Dreamxtreme> 141 UPDATES!! LOL
[03:09] <PriceChild> !sudo | pettybone
[03:09] <ubotu> pettybone: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:09] <xtknight> MadDog011, good question but i would use the RUN drivers not the repo ones
[03:09] <PriceChild> !caps | Dreamxtreme
[03:09] <ubotu> Dreamxtreme: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:09] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: 141 updates
[03:09] <xtknight> MadDog011, RUN ones are newer
[03:09] <wilo> xtknight: this is my result
[03:10] <wilo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10303/
[03:10] <Dreamxtreme> sorry ubotu
[03:10] <MadDog011> xtknight, hm.... I can try to run them again I guess....
[03:10] <PovAddict> about ubotu, wouldn't it make more sense to redirect a message to a user using > instead of |? or are we all programs :)
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> when i run ffmpeg teste.php i got this error "Could not find video grab device"
[03:10] <xtknight> MadDog011, i would use the RUN ones if at all possible , we can try from there.  did you try the XAA or EXA acceleration or whatever it was?
[03:10] <MadDog011> xtknight, I get ALOTTT of errors when I run those btw
[03:10] <bruenig> !bot > PovAddict
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> But my webcam is working ok in several apps
[03:10] <xtknight> MadDog011, #nouveau might have some ideas on the XAA stuff.
[03:10] <PovAddict> EduardoCorrea: you're loading a .php into ffmpeg?
[03:10] <MikeC2> I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) when trying to install it from apt-get
[03:10] <PovAddict> what the...
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> sorry
[03:10] <bruenig> PovAddict, and so you see
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> when i run ffmpeg teste.,pg i got this error "Could not find video grab device"
[03:10] <adjioev> where can read about channel chars like > | e.c.?
[03:10] <xtknight> wilo, alright.  'sudo dpkg --force-all -purge fontconfig'
[03:10] <EduardoCorrea> when i run ffmpeg teste.mpg i got this error "Could not find video grab device"
[03:10] <Dreamxtreme> :me is happy
[03:10] <MadDog011> xtknight, ok ima try to go with the .run
[03:10] <xtknight> wilo, fix >>>  'sudo dpkg --force-all --purge fontconfig'
[03:11] <jrib> !ubotu | adjioev
[03:11] <ubotu> adjioev: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:11] <MadDog011> xtknight, again...
[03:11] <MadDog011> xtknight, the installer says my card is legacy
[03:11] <PovAddict> ohh I understand how it works :) > is for pm, | shows on channel right?
[03:11] <MadDog011> xtknight, though I think its not
[03:11] <xtknight> MadDog011, well what card is it
[03:11] <MadDog011> xtknight, GF 4200 TI
[03:11] <xtknight> MadDog011, ah, :O
[03:11] <xtknight> MadDog011, yeah i dunno if the new drivers support it.  check the docs?
[03:11] <MikeC2> Anyone mind helping me with a JRE install issue, its a bummer x.x
[03:12] <bruenig> PovAddict, affirmative
[03:12] <xtknight> MikeC2, pastebin the complete output of 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[03:12] <MadDog011> xtknight, it should man. its a really old card
[03:12] <xtknight> what is it, dpkg error Day?
[03:12] <MadDog011> xtknight, and a good card
[03:12] <wilo> xtknight: which one do i do
[03:12] <xtknight> wilo, this >>>  'sudo dpkg --force-all --purge fontconfig'
[03:12] <wilo> ok
[03:12] <car_watt> you are the real madDog??????????
[03:12] <xtknight> MadDog011, nvidia dropped support for riva in their windows drivers recently i think
[03:12] <MadDog011> car_watt, no im the fake one :(
[03:13] <PovAddict> bruenig: amazing - too bad there isn't a -f to force the user to understand stuff... :P
[03:13] <PovAddict> if only life had those switches...
[03:13] <MadDog011> xtknight, didn't know Ge Force 4200 titanium is riva..
[03:13] <xtknight> lol
[03:13] <MikeC2> All is ok, besides a hanging skype install, could that be doing it?
[03:13] <xtknight> MadDog011, it isnt but riva is one old card...gf4 is also a tad aged so i was just impyling
[03:13] <bruenig> I just wish there was an !incoherent factoid
[03:13] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10304/
[03:13] <EduardoCorrea> You already try use Envy script?
[03:13] <MadDog011> xtknight, ic
[03:13] <xtknight> MikeC2, um no idea.  what's up with your java though?  when do you see subprocess fialed
[03:14] <MikeC2> xtknight: when trying to apt-get the jre/bin
[03:14] <xtknight> wilo, that's fine.  alright 'sudo apt-get -f install' again...seeing a pattern here?
[03:14] <xtknight> MikeC2, what exact cmd did you use
[03:15] <EduardoCorrea> xtknight: You already try use Envy script?
[03:15] <MikeC2> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[03:15] <wilo> yes i am xtknight
[03:15] <xtknight> EduardoCorrea, i dont have the nvidia problem, that would be MadDog011.  but Envy would not help him.  he had the nvidia drivers installed, but i think the nvidia drivers did not support his GF4 with 2d acceleration
[03:15] <chalmer> is Suse 10 begginner friendly as Ubuntu?
[03:15] <xtknight> wilo, might be fixed soon :P
[03:15] <meezyfuh> hi, does anyone know much about splitting a large file (>100MB) into smaller ones?
[03:15] <jairus> ola
[03:15] <xtknight> wilo, keep paste-bining
[03:15] <pettybone> ok I fully understand sudo now. Would anyone be able to help me make sense of the mount windows share using samba?
[03:15] <xtknight> meezyfuh, spanned zip/rar ?
[03:16] <MikeC2> meezyfuh: look into rar or 7zip
[03:16] <xenex> how can i make my microphone work?
[03:16] <jrib> meezyfuh: man split
[03:16] <PovAddict> what jrib said
[03:16] <swjunke> if on linux just use split and give it you size ... do man split
[03:16] <MadDog011> xtknight, wait I think I might be on to something
[03:16] <meezyfuh> thanks!
[03:16] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: so many cool commands around... :)
[03:16] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10305/
[03:17] <wilo> now "sudo dpkg --force-all --purge fontconfig" ?
[03:17] <swjunke> hey... can someone help me with having my system recognize the dvdrw & cdrw... i did an upgrad and the devices somehow disappeared
[03:17] <xtknight> wilo, well let's not give up until we get rid of all the fontconfig remnants
[03:17] <pettybone> I am looking at the page that gives me directions but the not sure how to make use of the page.
[03:17] <meezyfuh> well, is it easy to reconstruct in windows? (split, that is)
[03:17] <wilo> now "sudo dpkg --force-all --purge fontconfig" ?
[03:17] <xtknight> wilo, actually purge libfontconfig1
[03:17] <techie_> Is there in Ubuntu a  reliable or good "Speech Recogniition Program" similar to xp Dragon 8 or Vista Dragon 9?
[03:17] <swjunke> after splitting a file you just cat it together
[03:17] <Jetfighter> !java
[03:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:18] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: get unixtools for Windows :)
[03:18] <wilo> 'sudo dpkg --force-all --purge libfontconfig1' ?
[03:18] <PovAddict> so you can run split and cat from Windows's Command Prompt
[03:18] <xtknight> wilo, yes
[03:18] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: in fact... you can merge the files from Windows cmd prompt without needing extra programs
[03:18] <meezyfuh> is there a way to command-line rar it and split it into .part<#>.rar?
[03:18] <ioerror> Has anyone in here ever preseeded?
[03:18] <swjunke> in windows... i forgot what the command is... have you done a google on splitting files in windows?
[03:18] <meezyfuh> PovAddict: really?
[03:18] <xtknight> preseed = ?
[03:19] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: copy /b file1 + file2 + file3 + file4 outputfile
[03:19] <meezyfuh> well basically i want to split this large file and send it to my friend who doesn't have any technical expertise.
[03:19] <ioerror> xtknight, automatic installs using preseeded debconf questions
[03:19] <chalmer> why do u have to run tha termanil in ubuntu for everythin? why can't they make it easier for people to run like windows?
[03:19] <PovAddict> maybe no spaces around the plus sign - hold on
[03:19] <xtknight> ioerror, like unattended windows NT install sorta?
[03:19] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10306/
[03:19] <Jetfighter> How do I open sources?
[03:19] <MikeC2> I feel like a baka.... I was just pressing next without agreeing >.>
[03:19] <jbwan> evening
[03:19] <MikeC2> *sigh* oh well
[03:19] <jrib> Jetfighter: what sources?
[03:19] <PovAddict> chalmer: why not, instead, people gets smarter so they can use the terminal? it's really more powerful
[03:19] <Jetfighter> sources.list
[03:19] <xtknight> wilo, ok looks fine.  `sudo apt-get -f install`
[03:19] <EADG> Anybody using Screen? Wondering if it's possible to configure it to play videos.
[03:19] <jrib> Jetfighter: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:20] <ioerror> xtknight, yes
[03:20] <n1ce> help
[03:20] <xtknight> !ask | n1ce
[03:20] <swjunke> is there anyone here with any advice about making ubuntu see devices?  especially a dvdrw & cdrw
[03:20] <ubotu> n1ce: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:20] <meezyfuh> thx for all the help. you guys are great as usual!
[03:21] <xtknight> swjunke, yeah i can
[03:21] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: I'm not sure, but you're safer having no spaces: copy /b file1+file2+file3+file4+file5 outputfile
[03:21] <Iznougoud> What's the minimum req for Ubuntu to run smoothly?
[03:21] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10307/
[03:21] <chalmer> this is my 2nd day w/ ubuntu and im already about to pull my hair out
[03:21] <wilo> y/n?
[03:21] <xtknight> !requirements
[03:21] <PovAddict> meezyfuh: now, if you need a non-techie to merge it...
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <meezyfuh> PovAddict: i'll google it to be sure, but thanks very much!
[03:21] <jrib> chalmer: what's the issue?
[03:21] <Jetfighter> How do I get multiverse?
[03:21] <meezyfuh> PovAddict: i can give her diretions on how to open a c: prompt and doit!
[03:21] <jrib> !multiverse | Jetfighter
[03:21] <ubotu> Jetfighter: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:21] <chalmer> trying to learn the new way of accessing everything
[03:21] <xtknight> wilo, yes continue
[03:21] <swjunke> ixtknight... i have a cdrw and dvdrw that were working and stopped, not even showing up after a did an upgrade ... have any advice?
[03:21] <Jetfighter> I cant decode that, can you tell me?
[03:21] <xtknight> swjunke, upgrade from what to what?
[03:22] <jrib> chalmer: have you read through the starter guide at help.ubuntu.com?
[03:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, I made it run X again, but beryl doesnt work...
[03:22] <jrib> Jetfighter: it's english
[03:22] <swjunke> unbuntu 5.x to 6.06
[03:22] <Jetfighter> I know
[03:22] <xtknight> MadDog011, does X feel accelerated though?  nvidia drivers too?
[03:22] <clouder`grr> Anyone have a clue as to why CPU usage would shoot up to 100% just moving a window around?  I'm using gnome
[03:22] <Jetfighter> I don't get it
[03:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, it doesnt feel accelerated
[03:22] <jrib> Jetfighter: did you read it?  I just gave you the link
[03:22] <xtknight> swjunke, ok pastebin the results of 'sudo lshw -class disk'
[03:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, I installed legacy drivers
[03:22] <xtknight> MadDog011, like older nvidia proprietary?
[03:22] <xtknight> MadDog011, but still a run file?
[03:22] <Jetfighter> YES I read it
[03:22] <MadDog011> xtknight, yes
[03:23] <chalmer> no but i will tomorrow . im to fustraded now
[03:23] <Jetfighter> jrib
[03:23] <jrib> Jetfighter: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:23] <MadDog011> xtknight the run file...
[03:23] <hole> is there a downloadable gui for nmap?
[03:23] <skel> chalmer: are you new to just ubuntu or linux in general?
[03:23] <xtknight> clouder`grr, unaccelerated 2D
[03:23] <xtknight> !ati | clouder`grr
[03:23] <ubotu> clouder`grr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <chalmer> linux n general
[03:23] <Jetfighter> I need to play a game that uses a java applet. I installed sun-java6-bin and others, it still not working.
[03:23] <wilo> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10308/
[03:23] <hole> !nmap | hole
[03:23] <Jetfighter> I need to play a game that uses a java applet. I installed sun-java6-bin and others, it still not working. jrib
[03:23] <MadDog011> xtknight, it's unaccelerated, it worked so much better untill I wnated to try out the new drivers :((((
[03:23] <xtknight> !info nmapfe | hole
[03:23] <ubotu> hole: nmapfe: The Network Mapper Front End. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 224 kB
[03:23] <chalmer> first time
[03:23] <jrib> !nmapfe | hole
[03:23] <xtknight> hole : 'apt-cache search nmap'
[03:23] <xtknight> hole, and nmapfe ^^
[03:23] <wilo> xtknight: i think that fixed it, correct?
[03:23] <skel> chalmer: well if you're at the point you want to take a break, thats cool, but if you want to hang out, maybe we can help explain some stuff
[03:23] <MadDog011> xtknight, I shouldn't have typed that apt remove xgl command :(((
[03:24] <swjunke> xtknight...do i paste the out put here?
[03:24] <xtknight> wilo, do `sudo apt-get -f install` one more time to confirm no errors
[03:24] <MadDog011> xtknight, I worked for a week to get the mysql/web/jabber/dc running on the server and now this :(((((((((((
[03:24] <swjunke> it does show the cd and dvd in the output
[03:24] <xtknight> !pastebin | swjunke
[03:24] <ubotu> swjunke: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:24] <xtknight> and thank you for asking
[03:24] <naknomik> Samba 3.0 server, Vista Ultimate client don't play well. Can't see directory listing from Vista if I use UNC (\\server\share\directory etc.), if I map the share as drive I can see the files but most apps fail to load those files unless I manually copy them to local disk. Has anybody encountered this problem?
[03:24] <hole> xtknight as root right?
[03:24] <wilo> Reading package lists... Done
[03:24] <wilo> Building dependency tree
[03:25] <wilo> Reading state information... Done
[03:25] <wilo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:25] <xtknight> wilo, alright you're all set, enjoy
[03:25] <naknomik> here is my samba config: http://pastebin.ca/394132
[03:25] <swjunke> !pastebin
[03:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:25] <wilo> xtknight: THANKYOU VERY MUCH
[03:25] <xtknight> hole, what as root?
[03:25] <chalmer> they want more people to use linux but they'er not making it user friendly that much
[03:25] <wilo> MUCH APPRECIATED
[03:25] <hole> apt-cache
[03:25] <wilo> THANKYOU xd
[03:25] <MadDog011> xtknight, It's like when I hold the mouse button and select more than 3 icons with it the performance is around 2frames per second
[03:25] <clouder`grr> Thanks xtknight and ubotu
[03:25] <xtknight> wilo, lol no problem
[03:25] <wilo> :)
[03:25] <skel> chalmer: its all relative :-/
[03:25] <wilo> thankyou once again
[03:25] <skel> chalmer: not to say there's not improvements to be made :)
[03:25] <xtknight> you haven't fixed anything until you've removed libc6 =)
[03:25] <pettybone> would anyone help me understand the mount windows share document?
[03:26] <bruenig> xtknight has some serious patience
[03:26] <wilo> can i push my luck, and ask you a good system monitor i can use on ubuntu tat is safe and wont lead to any problems like the last one?
[03:26] <swjunke> ok here's the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10309/
[03:26] <skel> chalmer: do you have any questions or issues in particular?
[03:26] <Xero> I have a serious issue
[03:26] <Xero> I boot the CD
[03:26] <Daemel> Im looking for information on how to get widescreen resolutions to work on ubuntu, any resources out there?
[03:26] <hole> cool it worked
[03:26] <skel> chalmer: I'm pretty good at relating
[03:26] <xtknight> !fixres | Daemel
[03:26] <ubotu> Daemel: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:26] <xtknight> clouder`grr, did it fix the problem?
[03:26] <jrib> wilo: system > administration > system monitor  or use the gtkrellm version in the repos...
[03:26] <xtknight> MadDog011, well like i said try XAA or EXA acceleration.  visit #nouveau
[03:26] <Xero> I can't get ubuntu to boot on my laptop
[03:26] <wilo> xtknight: can i push my luck, and ask you a good system monitor i can use on ubuntu tat is safe and wont lead to any problems like the last one?
[03:26] <Xero> What should I do?
[03:26] <bruenig> wilo, htop
[03:27] <hole> i'll bet xtknight is a manager somewhere
[03:27] <clouder`grr> Well I'm reading up on it.  I noticed though that the open source drivers are recommended
[03:27] <Daemel> xtknight:  thank you
[03:27] <xtknight> hole, um more like a highschool student
[03:27] <bruenig> I bet he is a kid
[03:27] <chalmer> i got Suse 10 but everyone told me to run ubuntu b/c its tha easiest for begginers to learn
[03:27] <bruenig> yeah
[03:27] <hole> ok gunna be a manager
[03:27] <hole> :)
[03:27] <xtknight> maybe :P
[03:27] <bruenig> oh how appealing
[03:27] <bruenig> middle management
[03:27] <xtknight> IT help disk would prolly kill me
[03:27] <SammyF> hey there!
[03:27] <swjunke> xtknight... after doing the pastbin is there some advise?
[03:28] <skel> chalmer: ok. I think I'd probably agree with that.. while Suse is really easy to install, in the end I think Ubuntu is easier to use
[03:28] <wilo> jrib: i wanted one that would stay on the desktop, ill try htop
[03:28] <xtknight> wilo, well the fontconfig got installed from a foreign source....  like a debian repo deb or something.  where did you upgrade the fontconfig?
[03:28] <chalmer> k
[03:28] <jrib> wilo: right, gkrellm would do that, but use the packaged version in the repos
[03:28] <Xero> Is there anyone who is willing to help me with my problem?
[03:28] <erstazi> I have a pastebin submit at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10311/ can you please check it?
[03:28] <jrib> Xero: impossible to tell since we don't know what the problem is :)
[03:28] <pettybone> would anyone help me understand the mount windows share document?
[03:29] <skel> chalmer: so what have you had difficulties with so far?
[03:29] <SammyF> +D
[03:29] <hole> i'll check it out i wanna see if i can guess
[03:29] <Xero> Ok, I boot from the CD. I choose Start/install ubuntu
[03:29] <Xero> it goes to the Ubuntu Load Screen
[03:30] <tom__> Hi, I have a problem with the network-manager-gnome it says 'no network connection' yet Im using wireless on it. any suggestions pls ? thanks
[03:30] <hole> nope cant guess
[03:30] <MadDog011> xtknight, hm sec
[03:30] <Xero> and the screen goes black and it says there was a fatal error
[03:30] <jrib> Xero: it's easier to get help if you type out the question on a single line
[03:30] <chalmer> i cant get my screen res. to adjust. everthing is big. i cant figure out why my internet is so slow on this comp. w/ ubuntu but not on tha other 3 w/ windows.
[03:30] <Xero> and just goes black
[03:30] <xtknight> MadDog011, and back to...#nvidia heh
[03:30] <Xero> ok jrib
[03:30] <chalmer> i got DSL
[03:30] <jrib> Xero: what version of ubuntu?
[03:30] <xtknight> MadDog011, just say what i said in nouveua...unaccelerated 2D but have direct rendering
[03:30] <SammyF> Xero, what's your CPU? Is it a notebook or a desktop comp?
[03:30] <chalmer> breezy i think
[03:30] <xtknight> swjunke, sorry must haev missed your pastebin
[03:30] <MadDog011> xtknight, Ima try
[03:31] <Xero> 6.10
[03:31] <MadDog011> xtknight, man thanx for helping
[03:31] <MadDog011> xtknight, appriciate
[03:31] <chalmer> desktop
[03:31] <skel> chalmer: it would probably be best to be on the latest (edgy)
[03:31] <xtknight> swjunke, you need to give me the url of it that's why
[03:31] <mrzaius> I've just booted off the ubuntu LTS livecd, but I want to run the ncurses installer, and all I see is the GNOME one
[03:31] <xtknight> MadDog011, no problem
[03:31] <wilo> xtknight: i got them from debian
[03:31] <skel> chalmer: I can walk you through an upgrade if you're interested
[03:31] <mrzaius> is there a way to launch the older one?
[03:31] <jrib> Xero: did you make sure the cd was ok?  Does it work on a different system?
[03:31] <chalmer> yea  sure
[03:31] <xtknight> wilo, yeah i figured...well you can only install debs from the ubuntu repositories unless you want to break your system (i.e. only via apt-get or packages.ubuntu.com)
[03:31] <Arch_NME> excuse me
[03:31] <wilo> jrib: but i coudln't get gkrellm to work for me :(
[03:31] <Xero> yeah, the CD works on my other computer
[03:31] <tom__> I'm sure there are some ppl who use the network-manager-gnome for wireless
[03:32] <Xero> This is a laptop though
[03:32] <xtknight> wilo, and don't install ubuntu feisty packages on Edgy, or hoary ones on feisty, or whatever.
[03:32] <chalmer> r u comp or human?
[03:32] <skel> chalmer: can I pm you so the conversation is easier to track?
[03:32] <EADG> Anybody using Screen? Wondering if it's possible to configure it to play videos with Mplayer.
[03:32] <skel> chalmer: human most of the time :)
[03:32] <wilo> ok thankyou xtknight
[03:32] <chalmer> lol
[03:32] <jrib> Xero: well, you could try the alternate cd.  Or type out the full error and see if anyone knows more
[03:32] <wilo> thankyou verty muh
[03:32] <Xero> and I'm a beginner in linux, so I was told ubuntu is the way to go for learning
[03:32] <chalmer> ok
[03:32] <xtknight> wilo, if you just follow those simple rules you wont need a system monitor.  if you want a package that's not available in the repos just ask us we'll get you the right pkg
[03:32] <mrzaius> EADG: one way to find out
[03:32] <Xero> ok
[03:32] <chalmer> pm me
[03:32] <SammyF> Xero, once you got it to run, it's pretty easy to use
[03:32] <Xero> ok
[03:32] <SammyF> Xero, but laptops are always kind of tricky
[03:33] <xtknight> MadDog011, yup exactly right..now we just wait for a response :P
[03:33] <SammyF> Xero, :(
[03:33] <mrzaius> EADG: Also, that's more an mplayer specific question, assuming you're talking about the framebuffer video out drivers.  might try asking them directly if you don't get a direct answer here
[03:33] <wilo> thnakyou xtknight very greatly appreciated :)(
[03:33] <swjunke> Could I get some advise for my binpast at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10309/ ... much thanks in advance
[03:33] <chalmer> how do i PM u?
[03:33] <SammyF> Xero, can you tell us the brand and type of your laptop?
[03:33] <EADG> mrzaius: It spits out a couple of errors... failed to open vo, failed to open X11.
[03:33] <xtknight> swjunke, undetected cd drives right?
[03:33] <swjunke> yes
[03:33] <SammyF> Xero, sounds like it's a hardware problem to me
[03:33] <Xero> I'
[03:33] <xtknight> swjunke, good thing is they are detected in HW.  we just need to mount them.
[03:34] <mrzaius> EADG: I don't have mplayer installed yet on this box, so I can't hit the manpage
[03:34] <Xero> I'll get on my other computer and type out the full error
[03:34] <swjunke> that's what i thought... how?
[03:34] <xtknight> swjunke, CD-RW BCE1610IM and PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D....sound right
[03:34] <swjunke> yep
[03:34] <mrzaius> but you can.  look up how to explicitly state that you want to use the fb vout plugin
[03:34] <xtknight> swjunke, when you put a cd in what exactly happens?
[03:34] <swjunke> nothing
[03:34] <mrzaius> if that still fails, it probably just can't be done
[03:34] <MadDog011> xtknight, nvidia module license 'nvidia' taints kernel.
[03:34] <EADG> mrzaius: can you play videos while in screen?
[03:34] <mrzaius> although it wouldn't hurt to check with the screen and mplayer devs
[03:34] <xtknight> MadDog011, where do you get that?
[03:34] <MadDog011> dmesg
[03:34] <Az3rty[out] > BANQUIER : Personne qui serait d'accord pour vous consentir un prt  la condition que vous lui apportiez la preuve que vous n'en avez pas besoin.
[03:34] <mrzaius> at the moment, I don't have mplayer installed, so I can't test it
[03:34] <xtknight> MadDog011, uh what kernel are you using and what version of nvidia?
[03:35] <xtknight> !ci | Az3rty[out] 
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <xtknight> !fr | Az3rty[out] 
[03:35] <ubotu> Az3rty[out] : Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:35] <MadDog011> xtknight, Linux Ubuntu-Server 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i
[03:35] <cables> Does anyone know how I can change the theme of my KDE apps from within Gnome? I don't have KDE, just lol
[03:35] <cables> damn
[03:35] <cables> lol went in the wrong window
[03:35] <EADG> mrzaius: Thanks for the input, I'll continue to work this problem out.
[03:35] <xtknight> mrzaius, EADG ,  set fb output maybe in mplayer conf file under home dir?
[03:35] <MadDog011> xtknight, NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7184-pkg1.run
[03:35] <cables> I meant to say, I don't have KDE, just a few KDE apps in Gnome
[03:36] <Zero> ok
[03:36] <xtknight> MadDog011, hrm weird.  but the nvidia module is loaded?  (sudo modprobe nvidia  .. )
[03:36] <MadDog011> xtknight, it is loaded
[03:36] <xtknight> cables, uhh qt config program the name escapes me
[03:36] <cables> xtknight, I'll look for that
[03:37] <xenex> how do i make ubuntu detect my microphone?
[03:37] <mrzaius> how do you launch the ncurses installer from the livecd?
[03:37] <bruenig> xenex, my mic just worked
[03:37] <cables> xtknight, how 'bout qt4-qtconfig?
[03:37] <xtknight> mrzaius, you can not, you must use the alternate cd.  or the DVD
[03:37] <xtknight> cables, sounds good
[03:37] <Zero> this is Xero
[03:37] <Zero> on my other compy
[03:38] <mrzaius> xtknight: ok, thanks
[03:38] <SammyF> Zero, wb
[03:38] <xtknight> mrzaius, alternate available here http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[03:38] <Zero> it is loading ubuntu, the CD is reading and the load bar is going back and forth
[03:39] <xtknight> swjunke, um, ok.  type this... `sudo mkdir -p /media/dvd0 && sudo mkdir -p /media/dvd1`
[03:39] <tom__> Why when I restart ubuntu edge the screen goesall pixelized and nothing happens ?
[03:39] <skel> Zero: does it show you anything if you hit F2
[03:39] <xtknight> swjunke, actually you could name it cdrw instead of dvd0 if you wnat, whatever.
[03:40] <mrzaius> xtknight: that's alright.  already got a server cd here.  I can just use that in a pinch and install xubuntu over it
[03:40] <Zero> ok, it went to black with a cursor in the top lefthand corner. and then on the screen it says firmware helper main error loading and some more criptic stuff and the screen goes black and the CD tray stops loading ubuntu.
[03:40] <tom__> I have to press reset :(((((
[03:40] <xtknight> mrzaius, that works too
[03:40] <tom__> any suggestions? tks
[03:40] <xtknight> tom__, nvidia video card?
[03:40] <dougsko> ok, so i know you use 'sudo update-alternatives --config editor' to change your default editor (what happened to export $EDITOR btw?), but if your editor of choice is in /usr/local/bin, it doesnt come up in the choices. anyone know of a workaround?
[03:40] <Zero> yeah, it's definately not booting anything
[03:41] <tom__> xtknight: no ati x700
[03:41] <jrib> dougsko: add it as an alternative?
[03:41] <xtknight> tom__, hm sorry i'm not sure.  try the alternate cd?
[03:41] <swjunke> ok... after doing mkdir then what?
[03:41] <swarm> org
[03:41] <bruenig> dougsko, sudo update-alternatives --set editor /usr/local/bin/youreditor
[03:41] <skel> Zero:  at the boot prompt before you pick start ubuntu
[03:41] <xtknight> !alternate | tom__ grab the alternate here.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ ;; description:
[03:41] <ubotu> tom__ grab the alternate here.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ ;; description:: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:41] <skel> Zero: you can do a custom start I think.. additional options or something
[03:41] <dougsko> jrib, bruenig: awesome, thanks
[03:41] <skel> Zero: you can try noapic nolapic
[03:42] <skel> Zero: could be an interrupt issue or something
[03:42] <Zero> it says boot options and a really long line of text is in there
[03:42] <skel> its been a while since I've installed, just been upgrading the last few versions
[03:43] <skel> Zero: f1 I think shows you the different boot options
[03:43] <craigbass1976> Does anyone here have a sourceforge project?
[03:43] <smo> can i remove all unused lcoales in /usr/locale-langpack dir??? and how?
[03:43] <Zero> it starts with file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper and it goes on from there
[03:43] <skel> and then I think f6 allows you to enter them?
[03:43] <dougsko> hmmm...im getting 'update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/local/bin/vim'.', even though its definitely there
[03:43] <Zero> f1 brought up the help menu
[03:43] <skel> Zero: try entering noapic nolapic on the end of that
[03:44] <skel> craigbass1976: no, sf is slow and always under maintenance. I don't personally have any projects but my friends use googles project repository
[03:44] <Zero> and after I add that I just press enter?
[03:44] <SammyF> hmm ... anybody has any experience with the ATI Driver Installer?
[03:45] <xtknight> !anyone | SammyF
[03:45] <ubotu> SammyF: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:45] <skel> Zero: yeah
[03:45] <user1234> hi @ all
[03:45] <xtknight> !hi | user1234
[03:45] <ubotu> user1234: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:45] <Zero> ok, It's starting off the same, should it do something special this time?
[03:45] <bruenig> dougsko, sudo ln -sf /usr/local/bin/vim /etc/alternatives/editor
[03:45] <SammyF> anybody used the ATI Driver Installer?
[03:46] <skel> Zero: well if it were a apic problem it would get further.. thats about it..
[03:46] <SammyF> (repeated the question to make the bot happy, sorry)
[03:46] <skel> lol SammyF, state why you would like to know :)
[03:46] <Zero> ok, the error # it's coming up with is 4575 and 4578
[03:46] <skel> SammyF: its faster to get to the root of the problem :)
[03:46] <Zero> does that mean anything?
[03:47] <Zero> woah
[03:47] <Zero> and it started back up again
[03:47] <user1234> does somebody have an idea how to change the shell colour of the loginname/machine
[03:47] <victori_> how would you emulate the second mouse button?
[03:47] <skel> Zero: it restarted?
[03:47] <Zero> no
[03:47] <user1234> my computers name is ragga
[03:47] <bruenig> dougsko, did that work
[03:47] <SammyF> skel, cause I downloaded them, and somehow I lack the knowledge on how to actually USE them. it's a .run file, which I supposed I would be able to convert to something .deb using alien
[03:47] <SammyF> skel, ;)
[03:47] <Zero> it went black, the cd tray stopped, but it made a beep and loaded up ubuntu
[03:47] <user1234> i want him greenyellowred
[03:47] <jrib> dougsko: you need to "install" the alternative, though what bruenig suggests would accomplish what you want too...
[03:47] <dougsko> bruenig: im just about to run it. i was just reading the man page
[03:47] <xtknight> SammyF, no you can not go from run->deb.  you run the ATI installer with the --build-pkg paramaeter
[03:47] <Zero> it's up right now.
[03:48] <Esotericisms> I just installed ubuntu on my inspiron 8500 and then blacklisted the bcm44xx in my modprobe for my wireless adapter, now my wired adapter whenever I ping anything looses like the first 10 icmp requests
[03:48] <Esotericisms> any ideas?
[03:48] <dougsko> jrib: i have it installed via dpkg
[03:48] <skel> SammyF: ahh ok, you'll have to get your kernel sources to compile against I think, its been a while since I've had an ATI
[03:48] <skel> SammyF: hold tight
[03:48] <jrib> dougsko: no, using update-alternatives
[03:48] <skel> Zero: weird
[03:48] <Zero> Wow, thanks a ton skel
[03:48] <SammyF> skel, thanks
[03:49] <xenex> in my volume preferences, i can choose 2 things: HDA NVidia (Alsa mixer) and SigmaTel STAC9227 (OSS mixer). Which one should I use?
[03:49] <skel> Zero: np, glad it worked :)
[03:49] <xtknight> xenex, they both refer to the same device (onboard intel-certified HD audio).  just use ALSA, OSS has been deprecated
[03:49] <dougsko> bruenig: it worked, thanks
[03:49] <dougsko> jrib: im not sure i follow
[03:49] <skel> SammyF: I could walk you through it but its been a while and we'd blunder a lot, but I've got a good howto I think that should help some
[03:50] <xtknight> xenex, at least as far as i know.  you don't have any pci sound cards right?
[03:50] <Zero> now, is there a special way to get my wireless that is built into the laptop to read the wireless router
[03:50] <xenex> xtknight: thanks, would you know how to fix my microphone?
[03:50] <skel> SammyF: since you knew about alien I'm assuming you're relatively comfortable with linux / ubuntu
[03:50] <SammyF> skel, "relatively" :)
[03:50] <skel> Zero: depends
[03:50] <xenex> xtknight: no, i have integrated
[03:50] <skel> SammyF: take a look at this: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:50] <xtknight> SammyF, again you can not use alien with .runs.  with the ati installer you can use the --build-pkg (or similar) parameter to make debs though
[03:50] <SammyF> skel, on the other hand, I just found out that there's a RPM package on the ATI page
[03:50] <jrib> dougsko: man update-alternatives will tell you about --install, let me know if it isn't clear (it wasn't for me the first time I encountered it...)
[03:50] <xtknight> xenex, how exactly would you like to use the input from your microphone?
[03:51] <skel> SammyF: well there IS a module in the ubuntu repository
[03:51] <bruenig> it is unclear with all the terminology
[03:51] <dougsko> jrib: cool. ive never used update-alternatives before, the only way ive done this was by exporting $EDITOR
[03:51] <SammyF> skel, so that should work :)
[03:51] <xenex> xtknight: i'm trying to make it work on ventrilo but then I don't think ubuntu is even detecting my microphone
[03:51] <skel> SammyF: if you install the restricted-modules package for your kernel
[03:51] <xtknight> xenex, as long as you plug it into the microphone(line in) it should
[03:51] <skel> SammyF: it has fglrx I believe,   anyone correct me if I'm wrong
[03:51] <SammyF> skel, yep. ATI released a new driver a week or so ago
[03:51] <jrib> dougsko: sudo update-alternatives --install editor editor /usr/local/bin/vim 1   should work though I don't actually know how the priority's work (if bigger is more important or the other way around)
[03:51] <xenex> xtknight: I have 2 plugs, front hub and the mic plug in the back. i currently have it in the back and its not working
[03:51] <skel> SammyF: ah ok so you're upgrading
[03:52] <xtknight> xenex, well the back is the most reliable
[03:52] <SammyF> skel, yes .. there is fglrx in the repository
[03:52] <xtknight> xenex, maybe you need to adjust some switches in the mixer
[03:52] <ping_tu> how can do to this bug,https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-3.4/+bug/26522
[03:52] <xtknight> xenex, gnome-volume-control
[03:52] <xenex> xtknight: like what? i enabled capture
[03:52] <skel> Zero: do you know if the wireless card is a broadcom chipset?
[03:52] <SammyF> skel, yes ... well ... let's say I'm hopeful ... the ATI drivers have been relatively crappy so far :(
[03:52] <Zero> skel: not a clue
[03:52] <xenex> the input source is set to mic and not frontmic, so i don't know why it isn't working
[03:52] <xtknight> xenex, turn up "line in" where you see it?
[03:52] <dougsko> jrib: interesting.../me goes to read more
[03:52] <xenex> xtknight: there is no line in
[03:53] <xtknight> xenex, edit->preferences enable everything and try again
[03:53] <xenex> xtknight: InMux and InVol is in the capture tab
[03:53] <thiesen> how do I move a ntfs partition to a new mount point??
[03:53] <Zero> skel: It shows up, should it connect if it shows up in network settings?
[03:53] <skel> SammyF: yeah, one of the reasons I switch to nvidia about two years ago, anyway if you want to review that howto, I'd be happy to help you with any questions
[03:53] <bruenig> thiesen, change your /etc/fstab
[03:53] <Spartacus> Hey, does SDL come with Ubuntu Edgy?
[03:53] <bruenig> thiesen, where do you want it to mount
[03:53] <skel> Zero: if it shows up thats good, is your network secured with WEP/WPA/WPA2 ?
[03:53] <SammyF> skel, one of the reason I'm relatively comfortable with Ubuntu is that reading How-Tos has been my favourite past time lately ;)
[03:53] <Esotericisms> I am having an issue with my wired connection on my fresh ubuntu install
[03:53] <SammyF> skel, so .. bring it on :)
[03:54] <Zero> no, it's an open access point
[03:54] <skel> SammyF: heheh :)
[03:54] <Esotericisms> I have a broadcom wired 10/100 card in my inspiron 8500 ... I am having a considerable amount of packet loss
[03:54] <skel> Zero: ok then it should be pretty easy
[03:54] <thiesen> bruenig: I had a look inside that file and I saw the reference to my ntfs partition in it... it says the ntfs is mounted as /windows which is correct
[03:54] <skel> Zero: this is the livecd?
[03:54] <Number2> hello
[03:54] <xtknight> xenex, did edit preferences unveil anything else?
[03:54] <xenex> xtknight: no
[03:54] <thiesen> bruenig: I want to mount it as /media/windows instead
[03:55] <Spartacus> Does Ubuntu Edgy come with SDL?
[03:55] <xenex> xtknight: for input source, i'm assuming i should pick mic out of mic, front mic, and line. correct?
[03:55] <xtknight> xenex, hm could you list everything you see under "playback" and everything under "capture" (or screenshot it?)
[03:55] <xtknight> xenex, im really not sure, every mixer for every device is different
[03:55] <bruenig> thiesen, ok does /media/windows exist, (sudo mkdir /media/windows)
[03:55] <smo> SDL?
[03:55] <Number2> is there any way to get the kibuntu style kde on ubuntu?
[03:55] <xtknight> !sdl
[03:55] <Zero> if it is no password, do I need to have the password type set to anything special?
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <thiesen> bruenig: I have to make a directoy
[03:55] <xenex> xtknight: PCM, Front, Surround, Center, LFE, Side (Playback)
[03:55] <xtknight> it's a graphics lib
[03:55] <Spartacus> http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php
[03:55] <hanasaki> what causes packages to be "kept bakc"?
[03:56] <xenex> xtknight: InMux, InVol (Capture)
[03:56] <xtknight> hanasaki, "pinned" or "held" packages.
[03:56] <thiesen> bruenig: I have to make a physical directory if I want to mount something??
[03:56] <bruenig> thiesen, right sudo mkdir /media/windows, and then change the mounpoint in the /etc/fstab to /media/windows
[03:56] <skel> Zero: no I don't think so, just don't select WPA / WEP .. leave it
[03:56] <bruenig> thiesen, yeah...
[03:56] <xtknight> xenex, hmm.  i'm afraid i have no idea i that's all you see
[03:56] <xtknight> xenex, what about under "Switches"?
[03:56] <thiesen> bruenig: ok.. hangon...
[03:56] <skel> Zero: this is the livecd?
[03:56] <xenex> xtknight: ADCMix
[03:56] <skel> Zero: or post install?
[03:57] <xtknight> xenex, hrmm sorry.  no clue.  it's possible the driver doesnt support the mic but you could try using the other device via file->change device
[03:57] <aldeswari> anyone know why i can't get libwxgtk2.6-0 from the default repositories that come on edgy eft?
[03:57] <Zero> live CD. Why, will it not work without a full install?
[03:57] <harry> How are you supposed to pronounce 'gedit' ? is the g pronounced seperately or is it said as all one word?
[03:57] <xenex> xtknight: then there's only one tab, playback with a volume setting
[03:57] <Number2> anyone have an answer??
[03:57] <hanasaki> I know "pinning" what is "held
[03:57] <bruenig> harry, probably intended to be g edit
[03:57] <Spartacus> Is there any downside to installing all of the packages in the package manager?
[03:57] <xtknight> aldeswari, it's in Universe.  do you have it enabled?
[03:57] <skel> Zero: no I was just curious if I could have you apt-get something to check the signal and verify its seeing the AP
[03:57] <xtknight> Spartacus, waste of space, slowdown, possible misconfiguration?  bad idea in general
[03:58] <skel> can you apt-get packages on the livecd anyone?
[03:58] <Spartacus> mmkay
[03:58] <aldeswari> not sure. how would i check/ do it? this is my first time using linux :)
[03:58] <xtknight> skel, sure just enable repos
[03:58] <xtknight> !universe | aldeswari
[03:58] <ubotu> aldeswari: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:58] <SammyF> cya in a bit if X restarts ;)
[03:58] <xtknight> aldeswari, first time using linux and you're compiling something? :)
[03:58] <skel> SammyF: gl =] 
[03:58] <hanasaki> aptitude vs apt-get... what to use each for?
[03:58] <bruenig> hanasaki, always apt-get
[03:58] <thiesen> bruenig: ok... I created /media/windows and changed /etc/fstab
[03:58] <xtknight> hanasaki, hrm both do the same thing really.  aptitude can do a few more things with the debian packaging system
[03:58] <skel> Zero: are you familiar with navigating linux via a shell?
[03:58] <bruenig> thiesen, sudo mount -a
[03:58] <skel> Zero: ie. bash?
[03:59] <aldeswari> i don't know what i'm doing, i'm just trying to get mplayer and wine working
[03:59] <thiesen> bruenig: what will the -a do??
[03:59] <xtknight> is there something wrong with aptitude for ubuntu ?
[03:59] <xtknight> aldeswari, ahh following a howto?
[03:59] <AlbertK> morning
[03:59] <hanasaki> will apt-get go away and just aptitude in the future?
[03:59] <bruenig> thiesen, it mounts all the things in your fstab
[03:59] <Zero> skel: no. I am absolutely 100% noob to this
[03:59] <aldeswari> kind of yeah. it seems though everytime i try to install i'm missing libwxgtk2.6-0 or some other package
[04:00] <xtknight> aldeswari, heh yeah it can be a pain but you'll get through it
[04:00] <xtknight> sorry all gotta go
[04:00] <thiesen> bruenig: ok... I did sudo mount -a so is everything changed now??
[04:00] <skel> Zero: hehe ok.
[04:00] <xtknight> i can't..possibly...do it any longer
[04:00] <bruenig> thiesen, go see, is it in /media/windows
[04:00] <AlbertK> is there a howto available for how to install themes in ubuntu properly? (f.e. www.ubuntu-look.org)
[04:01] <xtknight> MadDog011, good luck with the nvidia thing.  just ask the same question as you did (perfectly phrased btw).  youll get a response one of these days im sure heh
[04:01] <Zero> at least I'm honest. I am sick of windows and I just want something I can learn on
[04:01] <thiesen> bruenig: you're a god... :-) that was easy...
[04:01] <bruenig> a god indeed
[04:01] <jrib> dougsko: I knew I had seen documentation somewhere: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-customizing.en.html#s-diverse  heh
[04:02] <AlbertK> windows isn't too bad at all, it's just the corporate background that makes the whole thing sickeningly evil ;)
[04:02] <dougsko> jrib: cool man, thanks
[04:02] <skel> Zero: I hear ya :) the software repository in ubuntu is really nice. there's not much you can't find.. though it may not always be to your liking
[04:02] <bruenig> windows isn't too bad.... what are you smoking
[04:02] <thiesen> bruenig: I didn't even have to deactivate ntfs-3g... it just worked... :-)
[04:02] <Zero> skel: it's better than Vista.
[04:02] <winux> hello
[04:02] <Sonic_13> how do I share a printer in ubuntu with windows xp computers?
[04:02] <skel> please don't troll bruenig
[04:02] <AlbertK> for my mother f.e.
[04:02] <bruenig> skel, you need to wikipedia troll
[04:03] <bruenig> I don't think I could be called a troll bashing windows in a linux channel
[04:03] <jason_wii> could someone with a gmail account send an invite to mail1240476@lawrabbit.com i want to get an account
[04:03] <Sonic_13> Wii rocks!
[04:03] <jrib> jason_wii: ok
[04:03] <Hydr0p0nX> didn't think you need an invite anymore
[04:03] <jason_wii> thx
[04:03] <Sonic_13> you can get an account via text message @ jason_wii
[04:03] <Sonic_13> if you have text messaging
[04:04] <jason_wii> i don't
[04:04] <Sonic_13> ok
[04:04] <jesusphreak> hello; if I am running an older core duo macbook, do I want the x86 version of ubuntu or the 64-bit?
[04:04] <reaspired> gmail is open for everyone now
[04:04] <xtknight> jesusphreak, core duo is x86 only.  core 2 duo is x86/x64
[04:04] <aldeswari> whomever it was tat helped me with libwxgtk, thanks a lot :)
[04:04] <skel> Zero: do you get a list of SSID's in the network manager?
[04:04] <Sonic_13> do you have a Wii?
[04:04] <jrib> jason_wii: oh, no more invites needed: https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount?service=mail&t=a0615237-47d74821-3a9b1da38185d3df5125&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2Fe-11-104a5292532e8cd05b545c2df5553ec6-3f01c2bba196058a8257da702b563f7e9b68bba1&type=2
[04:04] <Sonic_13> how do I share a printer in ubuntu with windows xp computers?
[04:04] <xtknight> aldeswari, no problem :P
[04:04] <jesusphreak> xtknight: thanks
[04:04] <zenwhen> jesusphreak: 32 biit
[04:04] <bruenig> !printing | Sonic_13
[04:04] <ubotu> Sonic_13: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:04] <Sonic_13> thanks
[04:05] <zenwhen> the core duo does not support 64-bit code, and you may want to read some guides before you go to install ubuntu on a macbook
[04:05] <Michael_the_choi> There's a nice guide to installing on the macbook on the ubuntu guide pages.
[04:05] <Michael_the_choi> I just did it a couple days ago. :-)
[04:05] <Zero> no, I get something that says wireless connection  wired connection and modem connection
[04:05] <thiesen> bruenig: Uhm... the old mount point still refers to the ntfs partition...
[04:05] <whonicca> speakin about macs, are they made with the same parts as pc's now?
[04:06] <Michael_the_choi> They always have been pcs. ;-)
[04:06] <reaspired> Can some one tell me why when I run beryl-manager and restart via Ctrl+alf+backspace, why berly doesnt auto load
[04:06] <Michael_the_choi> THey aren't mainfraims, you know.
[04:06] <eigenlambda> ok so.  when i run gnome-settings-daemon,
[04:06] <skel> Zero: and if you click on the wireless one, there's nowhere to really go from there?
[04:06] <whonicca> didnt they use priority hardware
[04:06] <bruenig> thiesen, yeah I thought it might, when you restart it won't or if you sudo umount /dev/whatever && sudo mount /dev/whatever it will probably go away too
[04:06] <jrib> reaspired: add beryl-manager to system > preferences > sesssion > startup
[04:06] <eigenlambda> Warning:          No symbols defined for <I7F> (keycode 255)
[04:06] <whonicca> mac only type hardware
[04:07] <Michael_the_choi> mac uses mac hardware, yes.
[04:07] <eigenlambda> (1) wtf does that mean (2) how to make it not take 100% cpu to print that
[04:07] <Zero> from there it says enable this connection (did that" and it says network name Essid, but nothing shows up in there. I manually input mine.
[04:07] <Michael_the_choi> Apple is a hardware manufacturer.
[04:07] <zenwhen> Michael_the_choi: link me?
[04:07] <skel> Apple also makes software :)
[04:07] <thiesen> bruenig: so I can just reboot the virtual computer??
[04:07] <whonicca> this is what is keeping me from buying a mac, hardware versatility =\
[04:07] <eigenlambda> warning .  no symbols defind for <I7E>
[04:07] <whonicca> Michael_the_choi, can i ask u a couple questions pm? about mac
[04:07] <eigenlambda> warning.  no symbols defined for <I7D>
[04:07] <bruenig> thiesen, if you want, or again you can just sudo umount /dev/whatever and then sudo mount /dev/whatever
[04:07] <Michael_the_choi> www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188331
[04:08] <eigenlambda> how i make it stop do that?
[04:08] <Michael_the_choi> sure, whonicca, though I don't know I'll know the answer!
[04:08] <eigenlambda> much annoys.
[04:08] <whonicca> nothing complicated =)
[04:08] <bruenig> thiesen, because the first command will unmount it from both mount points and the second command will mount in accordance with the fstab, which has it setup for your new mount point
[04:08] <thiesen> bruenig: oh... you mean the actual /dev/sd1 device??
[04:08] <skel> Zero: and no dice after inputing yours I take it
[04:08] <bruenig> thiesen, yeah, just sudo umount /dev/sd1 && sudo mount /dev/sd1
[04:09] <jimd3299> woohoo, just slapped in a wireless card in my laptop and ubuntu recognized it right away as eth1.  Sweet
[04:09] <reaspired> jrib, ok I did that restarted via ctrl+alt+backspace, I see the berly icon on top right, but windows look and move like gtk
[04:09] <Zero> below that it says "password type" but since I don't have one I kept it at Hex. I don't know if I should change it to ASCII
[04:09] <jrib> reaspired: yeah, don't hit ctrl-alt-backspace, log out first
[04:09] <thiesen> bruenig: ah... then I get it... I will see what magic I can make...
[04:09] <jrib> reaspired: (choose beryl as your window manager first)
[04:09] <Michael_the_choi> Oops - I take back the link I just linked.
[04:09] <Michael_the_choi> It's not the one I was looking for.
[04:09] <eigenlambda> (i also get that from setxkbmap -print | xkbcomp - :0
[04:10] <Pelo> reaspired,  you need to change the window manager in the icon's right click menu,
[04:10] <jimd3299> Zero: I left mine at Hex, I have no password on my wireless
[04:10] <eigenlambda> *why* does it do that?
[04:10] <eigenlambda> why does gnome-settings-daemon braindeadedly repeat that using all available resources?
[04:10] <hole> is there any way to make gnome show all hidden folders?
[04:10] <reaspired> Pelo, thanks
[04:10] <eigenlambda> when it fails... it just keeps trying over and over.
[04:10] <jrib> hole: ctrl-h, or view > show hidden files
[04:11] <Pelo> reaspired,  you can also access the themes and stuff from there
[04:11] <hole> oh hehe
[04:11] <Zero> up in the corner it says my network connection is named "lo" and it is on a loopback (127.0.0.1) and a subnet mask of 255.0.0.0
[04:11] <eigenlambda> how do i prevent xkbcomp from being called by gnome-settings-daemon?
[04:11] <eigenlambda> ill wrap it with something that hides its exit code
[04:11] <craigbass1976> Hey folks!  I just uploaded my first project on SourceForge.  OpenInvoice!  Check 'er out!!!
[04:11] <skel> Zero: can you switch that to ethX
[04:11] <skel> Zero: you're just looking at the loopback
[04:11] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  link ?
[04:11] <Zero> ah
[04:12] <craigbass1976> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openinvoice/
[04:12] <craigbass1976> Pelo, ^
[04:12] <skel> Zero: quick question, how do  you know you're not currently connected via wireless?
[04:12] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  loading, what is it about ?
[04:13] <Zero> I get no ping from anything
[04:13] <bruenig> not sure I need to make invoices
[04:13] <thiesen> bruenig: "umount: /dev/sda7: inte monterad" it's Swedish and it tells me that /dev/sda7 isn't mounted... uhm???
[04:13] <bruenig> thiesen, just reboot
[04:13] <jimd3299> Zero: Under System>Administration>Networking, did you type the name of your access point into the field. also known as the SSID?
[04:13] <skel> Zero: on that computer, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:14] <Michael_the_choi> MACBOOK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook.
[04:14] <Michael_the_choi> THere.
[04:14] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  ??? a zip files ?  oh dear
[04:14] <Michael_the_choi> Heh.
[04:14] <thiesen> bruenig: hehehe... wtf... that's sounds familiar from some other OS... :-)
[04:14] <jimd3299> I had to type the name in mine to get it to recognize the connection.
[04:14] <craigbass1976> Pelo, It's using OOcalc as a front end for invoicing/inventory.  Also uses bash scripts and mysql
[04:14] <bruenig> thiesen, well I am not there, if I were there I am sure I could fix it without reboot, but from here it is just easier to have you reboot
[04:14] <craigbass1976> Pelo, Not too big...
[04:14] <noodles12> can someonehelp me instal a trendnet usb wireless card with teh realtek chipset? (the forums only have instructions on installing the other chipsets)
[04:15] <thiesen> bruenig: yeah... you're probably right about that... :-)
[04:15] <eigenlambda> HA! i got that bullshit to end by moving /etc/X11/xkb out of the way temporarily
[04:15] <bruenig> craigbass1976, at least .tar.gz it
[04:15] <skel> Zero: sorry, in a terminal do that
[04:15] <eigenlambda> so.  what the fuck?
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | eigenlambda
[04:15] <ubotu> eigenlambda: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:15] <eigenlambda> theres even a bug about it in launchpad >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/breezy/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/21595
[04:15] <Arch_NME> if anyone know's anything regarding getting a UTstarcom 5740 EVDO cellular internet card with sprint service to work under ubuntu?
[04:15] <eigenlambda> but, none of the suggestions there work.  bullshit.
[04:16] <eigenlambda> or, rather, i don't understand the suggestions there
[04:16] <eigenlambda> maybe i should upgrade to feisty and that will work?
[04:16] <jairus> ola
[04:16] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  I'll have a look eventualy, I don'T have mysql installed and it's too late in the evening to start messing aroud with it and learning how to use your project , but I will have a look at it , if only to learn something new, thanks
[04:16] <bruenig> craigbass1976, I would make user-guide.odt a README txt file
[04:16] <eigenlambda> gnome-settings-daemon: stupidest program ever
[04:16] <craigbass1976> bruenig, I wanted it to look pretty. :)
[04:16] <eigenlambda> also: why do i need to manually run gnome-settings-daemon for my compiz session?
[04:16] <rikc> hi
[04:17] <bruenig> craigbass1976, yeah, but it isn't nerdy enough
[04:17] <Pelo> bruenig,  it's got pics in it
[04:17] <Flannel> eigenlambda: #ubuntu-effects for compiz support, thanks
[04:17] <bruenig> it needs to be scary and cryptic
[04:17] <bruenig> that is the only way you can get respect
[04:17] <Zero> DHCP discover on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval (4,7,8,15,10,12,5) send_packet: network is down
[04:17] <oggy> is there a channel for beryl
[04:17] <oggy> :/
[04:17] <Pelo> oggy,   #beryl
[04:17] <Flannel> oggy: #ubuntu-effects for beryl too
[04:17] <skel> Zero: hmm
[04:17] <bruenig> oggy, #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[04:17] <oggy> thanks
[04:17] <Zero> the parenthesis is showing all of the numbers after interval
[04:17] <craigbass1976> bruenig, I know... I know...
[04:17] <Zero> in that order
[04:17] <skel> Zero: so its not connecting to your SSID
[04:17] <rikc> I'm having trouble mounting a hard drive in 6.06 Dapper, would anyone be able to help me out or point me to a good guide?  I thought I correctly followed the one I was using, but I guess not.
[04:18] <MadDog011> xtknight, out of rage I have deleted by accident the /lib/.../video/nvidia/nvidia.ko driver... how do I get it back?
[04:18] <MadDog011> out of rage I have deleted by accident the /lib/.../video/nvidia/nvidia.ko driver... how do I get it back?
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:18] <Flannel> MadDog011: what's the full path?
[04:18] <Pelo> rikc, http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84 ,  there might be something in here
[04:18] <oggy> Pelo?
[04:18] <oggy> explain
[04:18] <oggy> ?
[04:18] <MadDog011> Flannel sec
[04:18] <rikc> awesome, thanks Pelo
[04:18] <Pelo> oggy,  you couldn'T be bothered to  check  #beryl ...   lame
[04:18] <skel> Zero: in a terminal can you type iwconfig eth1 essid <your ssid>
[04:19] <skel> Zero: you'll probably have to prepend that command with sudo
[04:19] <MadDog011> Flannel, /lib/modules/2.6.17-1-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.ko
[04:19] <skel> Zero: and then try to restart the network again, or just run dhcpcd
[04:19] <Sonic_13> i am trying to setup network printing and this page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP) says I need to Also set which TCP port that the printer system will accept connections on. In Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) and Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) add this line under the Network Options part of the file (somewhere around line 420), or in Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) add the following line to /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf:, but there is no li
[04:20] <Zero> I did it and it says operation not permitted
[04:20] <billy> greetings humanoids.
[04:20] <Veinor> I'm having problems installing edgy on my laptop. It says:
[04:20] <Zero> do I need sudo in front of it?
[04:20] <Veinor> "Activating swap ... [ok] 
[04:20] <Veinor> mount: Function not implemented
[04:20] <MadDog011> Flannel, /lib/modules/2.6.17-1-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.ko
[04:20] <skel> Zero: it said that when you put sudo in the front? like  sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <your ssid>   ?
[04:20] <Arch_NME> power to the prolitariate and goodnight all
[04:20] <Sonic_13> (step #4)
[04:20] <skel> Zero: yeah :)
[04:20] <rikc> and would there be any reason why the internet seems to run much slower in Ubuntu than Windows?
[04:21] <aldeswar1> anyone know how i would connect to a windows file sharing network?
[04:21] <Zero> ok
[04:21] <skel> Zero: sorry I left that out, sudo allows you do execute actions as the administrator
[04:21] <cables> !ipv6 | rikc
[04:21] <ubotu> rikc: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:21] <Zero> I did it and it just came up with another line
[04:21] <rikc> thanks
[04:21] <skel> Zero: so anytime you're doing something system related you'll most likely need sudo
[04:21] <Zero> no notification, no nothing
[04:21] <Zero> ojk
[04:21] <skel> Zero: thats good
[04:21] <MadDog011> I have deleted this file by accident out of rage -> /lib/modules/2.6.17-1-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.ko  does anyone know how to get it back?
[04:21] <Veinor> unless you choose to enable logins as root.
[04:21] <skel> Zero: ok try the sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   again
[04:21] <Sonic_13> i am having trouble with #4  --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[04:22] <aldeswar1> anyone know how i would connect a windows file sharing network?
[04:22] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, I know.  What exactly is the setup
[04:22] <Zero> same thing
[04:22] <aldeswar1> just created a windows network on my other comp running xp under mshome
[04:22] <Veinor> I got the message "mount: function not implemented" briefly during the CD boot. I know that mount is kinda critical, so I was wondering if this might mean I might have problems during the actual partition
[04:22] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, and don't ask so fast twice in a row; I was typing...
[04:22] <skel> Zero: hmmm =/
[04:22] <Zero> This time though it says no such device for a bunch of things
[04:23] <aldeswar1> oh sorry i missed what you said
[04:23] <aldeswar1> err
[04:23] <aldeswar1> i'm an idiot
[04:23] <aldeswar1> sorry :)
[04:23] <craigbass1976> hehe
[04:23] <Alysum> Hi, I'm doing ssh -X to another ubuntu on my LAN but I get this:
[04:23] <Alysum> tom@tom-mac:~$ xterm 1
[04:23] <Alysum> xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[04:23] <Alysum> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[04:23] <Alysum> any ideas ? tks
[04:23] <Alysum> sorry for the flood
[04:23] <rikc> On the first step in the guide you guys linked me to, I recieved this: (gedit:5476): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:23] <rikc> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed..  Will this effect anything?  The document that came up was blank
[04:23] <Sonic_13> how do I access the "Network Options" part of this file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:24] <Sonic_13> (the second half of #4 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP)
[04:24] <Zero> skel. one is SIOCSIFFLAGS
[04:24] <rikc> sorry about all the questions, I'm totally new to this and my friend who has been helping me out is gone for a few days
[04:24] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, anyway, figure out what the ip is in windows, and then the share name.  For instance...
[04:24] <MadDog011> Three hours I've spent trying to get this NVIDIA driver to work... THREE HOURS !!!! nothing... I think Bill Gates deserves his millions
[04:25] <LadyNikon> MadDog011: what you doing wrong?
[04:25] <LadyNikon> ;)
[04:25] <Zero> MadDog011: I thought he had billions
[04:25] <skel> Zero: I'm not sure :( at this point I really don't know what direction to take you in without being on the machine =/
[04:25] <LadyNikon> no one said linux was easy.. its just better :D
[04:25] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, I shared out the Shared Documents folder, which on the network was called Documents.  Sometimes it's called ShareDocs...
[04:25] <whonicca> i chose a canon over a nikon today =\
[04:25] <Flannel> MadDog011: that's the nvidia-glx package, it appears
[04:25] <MadDog011> I have absolutely no clue !!!! I've tried everything every damn instruction
[04:25] <billy> is the wine chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:25] <eck> MadDog011: well, nvidia wrote the drivers, not microsoft :-)
[04:25] <Zero> skel: it's cool
[04:25] <Veinor> if it's easy, it ain't worth doing :-P
[04:25] <aldeswar1> ok got it
[04:25] <skel> Sonic_13: so you're trying to get windows clients on your network to access a printer through ubuntu?
[04:25] <Alysum> did anyone get my message pls ?
[04:25] <Zero> I have to sleep, I'l work on this tommorow.
[04:25] <Zero> Thanks though.
[04:25] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, anyway, sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.1/Documents /mnt would do it.
[04:25] <skel> Zero: anytime :)
[04:25] <Pelo> billy, #winehq,  and this is the freenode network
[04:26] <Sonic_13> SKEL: yes
[04:26] <skel> Sonic_13: ok, just wanted to make sure you were going down the right path, let me take a look at that howto
[04:26] <aldeswar1> k ill try that
[04:26] <billy> Pelo:  thx.  all I know is, when I open XChat I click on ubuntu servers.  :)
[04:26] <Sonic_13> SKEL: thanks a lot in advance for any help you may be able to give
[04:26] <MadDog011> maybe it's not worth doing, but im sorry cus I've spent over a week getting all the servers up !!! But I can't get the NVIDIA DRVIERS to work... my god am I that stupid... or is something terribly wrong !!!
[04:27] <Alysum> :(
[04:27] <bruenig> !ati | MadDog011
[04:27] <ubotu> MadDog011: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <Pelo> billy,  that's just how it is setup,  so the noobs don'T get too comfused
[04:27] <skel> Sonic_13: np :)  ok so what part of #4 is giving you trouble (sorry was watching a couple of conversations and didn't catch the whole question)
[04:27] <MadDog011> bruenig, do you think I haven't seen that page for 20 times allraedy ?
[04:27] <Veinor> people actually ask that question so much that you have a dedicated command for that?
[04:27] <LadyNikon> lol@ giving MadDog011 a trigger that he probably already knows
[04:27] <billy> Pelo:  guess it worked! :)
[04:27] <bruenig> MadDog011, but have you seen this one
[04:27] <Sonic_13> SKEL: the part that starts
[04:27] <Sonic_13> "Also set which TCP port that the printer system will accept connections on. "
[04:27] <bruenig> !nv | MadDog011
[04:27] <ubotu> MadDog011: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <skel> Sonic_13: why don't we take this to a PM
[04:28] <Sonic_13> sure
[04:28] <Sonic_13> that would be easier
[04:28] <MadDog011> ....
[04:28] <bruenig> the !nv is underused
[04:28] <bruenig> too much !nvidia and !ati
[04:28] <phewl> lol
[04:28] <LadyNikon> to much !!!
[04:28] <colbert> Is it possible to use a different wallpaper for each workspace ??
[04:28] <MadDog011> funny
[04:28] <Alysum> anyone know how to exit the Terminal Server Client when you're in full screen ?
[04:28] <LadyNikon> colbert: i think i  had that once
[04:28] <LadyNikon> cant remember how though
[04:28] <OldGeezer> alysum type in exit
[04:28] <colbert> lol
[04:28] <colbert> thx
[04:29] <Alysum> ok thx
[04:29] <bwlang> colbert: i don't thiink so, never seen it
[04:29] <skel> Sonic_13: if you're not registered I don't think it will let us PM, are you registered on this network?
[04:29] <colbert> dang
[04:29] <phewl> gay
[04:30] <Alysum> err where do I type exit when Im in full screen
[04:30] <ardchoille> at the prompt
[04:30] <Sonic_13> SKEL: no i am not
[04:30] <skel> Sonic_13: ok, did you see my PM?
[04:30] <Sonic_13> yes
[04:30] <Veinor> ok. on the installer, when you're choosing how to partition your HD, is the "new partition size" the size of the new partition, or the new size of the old one? (i.e, the size of the ubuntu or windows partition)
[04:30] <Pelo> colbert,  look for a pakcage called wallpaperoz or something like that
[04:30] <Sonic_13> i did see your pm
[04:30] <skel> Sonic_13: hmm ok cause I can't see your replies
[04:30] <Sonic_13> hmm
[04:31] <ardchoille> Alysum: lol, unless you can figure out another place to type
[04:31] <genii> Alysum: Right after the $
[04:31] <ardchoille> genii: I don't think he has too many choices
[04:31] <Pelo> colbert, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Wallpapoz
[04:31] <eck> Veinor: i think the new partition means the new partition, but if you're in doubt just look at the pretty picture of your hadr drive
[04:31] <Veinor> ok
[04:32] <genii> ardochoille Well, we must try to be understanding
[04:32] <eck> iirc the graphic makes it clear which filesystem each partition is formatted as, so it should be clear what belongs to windows
[04:32] <ardchoille> genii: True
[04:32] <colbert> Pelo: Wow thanks
[04:32] <colbert> Would that be compatible with Beryl ?
[04:32] <Alysum> I'm talking about the Terminal Client Server which connects to a server remotely, a GUI! In my case it connects to a windows XP WS in full screen
[04:33] <Pelo> colbert,  no idea
[04:33] <Alysum> I had to press reset to exit lol
[04:33] <colbert> Dang the link is dead
[04:33] <colbert> can I get it somewhere else ?
[04:33] <Pelo> colbert, http://wallpapoz.akbarhome.com/download.html
[04:33] <Shadow_mil> help support Linux: http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey
[04:33] <matkix0s> So what is a good gui html editor like dreamweaver?
[04:33] <ramza3> I need to develop a simple mysql client, do I need libmysqlclient?
[04:34] <eck> uh, it should have an embedded gparted editor
[04:34] <eck> on edgy anyway
[04:34] <jrib> ramza3: you don't need it, you can rewrite it of course (your question is vague)
[04:34] <Veinor> ah, that. I meant in the installer. I'll just use gparted then.
[04:34] <matkix0s> Eck was that to me?
[04:34] <genii> Alysum :) Glag you got it figured
[04:34] <genii> glad even
[04:34] <ramza3> jrib: I mean, where is libmysql.so or whatever
[04:34] <eck> matkix0s: no, it was to veinor
[04:34] <matkix0s> Oh, alright.
[04:35] <matkix0s> So anyone know of any good GUI html editor? I have used dreamweaver in the past and was looking for something similar to that.
[04:35] <jrib> ramza3: you could use libdbd-mysql
[04:36] <Alysum> noooo reset is not the right thing to do ! :p
[04:36] <wick2o> hello
[04:37] <Madpilot> matkix0s, give NVU a shot, if you really must use a WYSIWYG HTML editor.
[04:37] <eck> matkix0s: bluefish is also pretty good
[04:37] <Veinor> How much of a resource hog is beryl?
[04:37] <ramza3> jrib, is that libmysql.so
[04:37] <Aurote> hi :)
[04:37] <eck> i think nvu is more point and click though
[04:37] <jrib> ramza3: it contains a file called that...
[04:37] <LadyNikon> what was that opensource vmwareish type program
[04:37] <Aurote> Skype fails to load when I start it. Here is a pastebin http://paste.uni.cc/13670
[04:37] <rik_> can someone give us a working repository that provides win32codecs? We've tried several from the forums and none are accessable.
[04:37] <LadyNikon> began with a X?
[04:38] <eck> xen?
[04:38] <aldeswar1> would ipv6 cause me to not be able to connect to a windows network?
[04:38] <bruenig> !w32codecs
[04:38] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:38] <LadyNikon> lemme see
[04:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, mp3 | rik_ Try the one listed here, it worked for me last week
[04:38] <ubotu> rik_ Try the one listed here, it worked for me last week: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:38] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, You still there?  Did it work?
[04:38] <aldeswar1> yeah didn't work :(
[04:38] <victori_> anyone feisty fan mirrors?
[04:39] <aldeswar1> it worked yesterday though so...
[04:39] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, What?
[04:39] <victori_> us.archive.ubuntu.com is really slow
[04:39] <aldeswar1> the sudo mount -smbfs command you gave me
[04:39] <colbert> Pelo: Thanks man that worked like a charm, great prog
[04:39] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, did you get an error?
[04:39] <Alysum> try iraq.archive.ubuntu.com then :p
[04:39] <aldeswar1> yeah
[04:39] <LadyNikon> hmm xen isnt it
[04:39] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, care to paste it?
[04:39] <LadyNikon> dang it.. and my buffer isnt large enough to scroll up
[04:40] <aldeswar1> yeah one sec
[04:40] <Veinor> what's a good size for a swap?
[04:40] <wick2o> 3x your amount of ram
[04:41] <Veinor> k.
[04:41] <genii> Veinor: Yes, 2-4x ram size
[04:41] <eck> uh, you don't need nearly that much
[04:41] <eck> you need as much as you use
[04:41] <eck> probably no more than a couple hundred MB just to be safe
[04:41] <aldeswar1> pump@pump-laptop:~$ sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.101/c /mnt
[04:41] <aldeswar1> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.101/c,
[04:41] <aldeswar1>        missing codepage or other error
[04:41] <aldeswar1>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:41] <aldeswar1>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:41] <Veinor> couple hundred MB for swap?
[04:41] <genii> eck For doing diff on large files and suspend-to-ram etc you need quite a lot
[04:41] <eck> for a desktop that is fine
[04:42] <Veinor> this is a laptop
[04:42] <cafuego_> Veinor: If you want to be able to suspend/hibernate, size of ram plus a bit.
[04:42] <UvFii> hai ho... how do i register my nickname on this channel
[04:42] <Veinor> 2GB ram... 3?
[04:42] <cafuego_> genii: cerytainly not 4xram
[04:42] <Veinor>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[04:42] <wick2o> how big is your harddrive?
[04:42] <aldeswar1> the thing is i connected to it yesterday fine by just doing places>network servers>mshome
[04:42] <cafuego_> Veinor: Yeah, as most.
[04:42] <wick2o> or partition size aval for linux?
[04:42] <Veinor> I'm planning on allocatong 40 GB for linux
[04:43] <cafuego_> Veinor: You don't want to end up in a situation where the machine springs a meory leak and starts eating all your swap, it'd be impossible to recover.
[04:43] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, is there a firewall up on the xp box that wasn't there yesterday?  Did you update norton or anything, or windows?
[04:43] <fami> ah
[04:43] <aldeswar1> nope
[04:43] <genii> Veinor: Yes, cafuego is right about suspend-to-ram size. If you also want to be able to do diff command on dvd iso images make it to 4.8Gb
[04:43] <wick2o> Veinor: id use 1-3 gig for my swap easy
[04:43] <wick2o> ubunut desktop install isnt all that large
[04:43] <dimas> hello
[04:43] <cafuego_> genii: wtf would you diff iso images?
[04:44] <Veinor> heh. I'm not going to be diffing isos probably...
[04:44] <UvFii>  /msg nickserv UvFii register uvf39
[04:44] <cafuego_> genii: that's what md5sum is for.
[04:44] <wick2o> cafuego: development
[04:44] <fami> does anyone use irssi with default Terminal?
[04:44] <Veinor> I'll go with 3; i can always resize later, right?
[04:44] <cafuego_> wick2o: If you do that with diff you're doing something wrong.
[04:44] <genii> cafuego To apply a patch from a custom iso modified from a factory one
[04:44] <eck> fami: with gnome terminal? yes
[04:44] <cafuego_> Veinor: yeah, or add some.
[04:44] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, hmm.  I've never seen that before unless I messed the command up, or if windows wasn't sharing out properly.
[04:45] <eck> genii: you do _not_ need as much ram as the file size to use patch
[04:45] <UvFii>  /msg nickserv register 123456ap
[04:45] <cafuego_> genii: xdelta
[04:45] <mikefoo> Anyone know of a command line based tool for ripping dvds to a drive so I can backup and watch at later time if disc scratches?
[04:45] <Veinor> one last question: is a "mount:function not implemented" message that I saw when I booted the CD bad?
[04:45] <fami> eck: yes, abit hard to switch windows in irssi
[04:45] <Veinor> >_< Don't put a space before the /msg
[04:45] <genii> eck For diff you need swap the size of the largest file in the diff
[04:45] <eck> fami: edit > keyboard shortcuts
[04:45] <aldeswar1> i did install some packages today though on this machine
[04:45] <jikbag> does anyone know of a good GUI wireless network scanner?
[04:45] <Veinor> Now I recommend you use a diferent password, and change that one if you're actually using it.
[04:45] <aldeswar1> could that have anything to do with it?
[04:46] <jikbag> something that will just show me the local WAPs?
[04:46] <eck> i sincerely hope that diff will not try to map a 4GB file into one buffer
[04:46] <eck> that would be obscene
[04:46] <Veinor> *poke*
[04:46] <genii> eck It does and it is
[04:47] <eck> ok, diff has just been added to my list of evil programs
[04:47] <cafuego_> Why don't I try to run diff on my box with far less than 4GB ram+swap
[04:47] <guidex> anyone know of a way to mess with my keyboard keys? I Have a broken oposit ) key
[04:47] <guidex> or a charecter map program
[04:47] <fami> eck: how disable them by a click?
[04:48] <genii> cafuego Sure. Use 2 dvd iso then let me know when it chunks out :)
[04:48] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, on the ubuntu box you mean?
[04:48] <aldeswar1> yes
[04:48] <JBGood> guidex, xmodmap, afaik
[04:48] <eck> fami: you click the ones that are mapped to alt + number and hit backspace
[04:48] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, could be.  depends on what they were.
[04:48] <OldGeezer> jikbag look in your add/remove programs and search wireless, there is a list of apps for ubuntu there
[04:48] <Veinor> genii: If, when I started the liveCD, I got the message "mount: function not implemented", might that lead to very bad things later?
[04:48] <guidex> thanks kbgood that should help me until pay day when i can buy a new keyboard
[04:48] <cafuego_> Oh god, diff sucks.
[04:48] <Veinor> also something about a radio frequency; didn't have time to write that one down.
[04:48] <genii> Veinor It depends on the context.
[04:49] <aldeswar1> don't think i did anything besides libwxgtk2.6-0 and libwxbase
[04:49] <jikbag> OldGeezer: ty
[04:49] <fami> eck: ok..
[04:49] <aldeswar1> which were for WINE and mplayer
[04:49] <Veinor> genii The context was the terminal you get before the GUI totally boots up
[04:49] <genii> Veinor Likely some fs on a partiton that livecd has no fs driver for
[04:49] <aldeswar1> i'm going to try restarting as soon as i finish updating
[04:49] <craigbass1976> aldeswar1, if that's the ONLY difference between yesterday and today, then that would be it.  You never can tell when windows is involved though what's the same and what isn't.
[04:49] <aldeswar1> yeah
[04:49] <Veinor> genii probably the recovery partition.
[04:49] <craigbass1976> :)
[04:49] <Aurote> Skype fails to load when I start it. Here is a pastebin http://paste.uni.cc/13670
[04:50] <fami> eck: another question: i am trying to install flash from http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/all/
[04:50] <spike723> hmm
[04:50] <jrib> ramza3: does that work for you?  There is probably more than one library you can use
[04:50] <fami> eck: and have error
[04:50] <eck> fami: i just use the flash in multiverse, i'm not familiar with that repository
[04:50] <genii> Veinor I have not had that specific error so a bit fuzzy on the ramifications later. But I would lean towards that if it installs / fine etc etc you can mount whatever problemmatic fs there may be later, like some odd ntfs or so
[04:50] <technel> I accidentally deleted /etc/X11/imwheel . I ran "sudo aptitude remove --purge imwheel" and then did an install again, but the files still don't re-appear. How do I do a complete reinstall?
[04:51] <ramza3> jrib: sort of, I have /usr/lib/libmysql.so.15  ...but I cant get it to load for some reason, but that might be another issue
[04:51] <fami> eck: ok.. one click to enable multiverse?
[04:51] <eck> fami: i think synaptic might have a clicky thing to turn it on, i'm not really sure
[04:52] <Veinor> genii yeah, sounds like a safe bet to me.
[04:52] <megafauna> Hi, what is the ubuntu equivilent of windows' system restore?
[04:52] <eck> megafauna: you take lots of backups :-)
[04:52] <payal> hi all
[04:52] <payal> does ubuntu has a chkconfig kinda thing
[04:52] <fami> eck: is it called Universe in LTS?
[04:52] <CokeNCode> what do i need to aptget to stream audio from online radio stations ?
[04:52] <Veinor> megafauna: I don't think there is one by default.
[04:52] <technel> Never mind, using dpkg worked
[04:53] <CokeNCode> i keep getting error messages about not being able to handle the file type
[04:53] <genii> megafauna: It does not have one,unless you had some kind of automated backup process running
[04:53] <CokeNCode> and i never did before
[04:53] <eck> fami: no, it is called multiverse everywhere, universe is something else
[04:53] <CokeNCode> oh wait, it works now :D
[04:53] <CokeNCode> yahoooooo
[04:53] <Veinor> I'm willing to bet 90% of system restore use is to give people more time for 30-day trials
[04:53] <payal> any ideas ?
[04:53] <eck> megafauna: there isn't really a registry to screw up, so it is not as much of an issue as you might think
[04:53] <fami> eck: maybe its new thing?
[04:54] <megafauna> ah. So I just recovered from a failed hardware acceleration install and luckily the bash code had created a backup of the config file.
[04:54] <sigger_> anyone recommend a good .chm reader (other than cnochm)?
[04:54] <eck> fami: no, multiverse has been around since ubuntu has, i think. it might not be enabled in the version of synaptic in LTS though
[04:54] <Veinor> what's LTS again?
[04:54] <megafauna> I'm back now but there isn't a restore point software I can d/l? If not, I'll jsut have to be more careful
[04:54] <Madpilot> Long Term Support
[04:54] <eck> fami: you can just edit the sources.list file of course
[04:54] <Veinor> ah
[04:54] <Veinor> yeah, I think multiverse is disabled by default in LTS.
[04:54] <eck> megafauna: /etc is pretty small, you can easily create backups of the whole thing
[04:55] <megafauna> Thanks for the comments all
[04:55] <Veinor> megafauna: We're here to help.
[04:55] <eck> tar -cvjf etc-backup.tar.bz2 /etc
[04:55] <megafauna> eck: so I'd backup etc on my iPod perhaps?
[04:55] <Veinor> if you wanted to do it that way
[04:55] <megafauna> can bash see it? /me checks
[04:55] <eck> megafauna: sure, i think if you bzip all of /etc it's < 10 MB
[04:55] <Veinor> Or you could do a CD-RW backup or something.
[04:56] <Veinor> Oh, it's that small? I'd back it up on my USB drive then. :-P
[04:56] <eck> and of course you can get it pretty tiny if you do differential backups or just backup the configs for the app you are breaking
[04:56] <fami> eck: ok.. i miss see, its in repos
[04:56] <megafauna> eck: ok, so i'll have to learn how to use bzip with the command line for next time I screw up my video driver
[04:56] <megafauna> eck can that be done?
[04:57] <eck> megafauna: no, just copy the xorg.conf to your home directory or something
[04:57] <eck> or you could just cp -r all of /etc, on my machine it is only 12 MB (uncompressed)
[04:57] <megafauna> eck: that is toooooo obvious for a newb like me to think of!
[04:57] <megafauna> eck Thanks!
[04:57] <genii> cp -a is good too
[04:57] <eck> yes
[04:57] <cafuego_> and rsync of course
[04:57] <megafauna> genii: cp is great. It saved me l10 min ago from hell
[04:58] <megafauna> Thanks all
[04:58] <genii> megafauna Glad yer getting comfortable on the commandline :)
[04:58] <cafuego_> or tar cj --rsh-command=/usr/bin/ssh -f user@remotehost:somefile.tar.bz2 /path/to/dir
[04:58] <Veinor> it saved me from having to open a file in hex and look up all the ascii codes for each of those weird characters so I could type them into another file!
[04:58] <eck> cafuego_: now you're just showing off :-)
[04:58] <Veinor> THAT would've been hell.
[04:58] <genii> eck LOL
[04:59] <cafuego_> eck: yeah, sorry...
[04:59] <fami> eck: is opera in that repo too?
[04:59] <IcemanV9> fami: apt-cache search opera
[04:59] <eck> i think opera provides their own packages, i'm not really sure
[04:59] <bruenig> I don't believe opera is in any of the repos
[04:59] <bruenig> you can get a deb from their site though
[05:00] <fami> bruenig: its on site
[05:00] <eck> opera isn't really free in any sense, and i don't think they let you redistribute it
[05:00] <spinexorz> can someone perhaps help me out really quick? is it possible to create separate groups for two NIC's for the purpose of assigning a specific NIC to a user in a system with multiple NIC's
[05:00] <kalorin> !last mojo
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about last mojo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <fami> bruenig: have offical support for ubuntu LTS
[05:00] <Veinor> I have a question: I know that RAM is faster than HD, so I tried to send my backups to /dev/kmem, but my computer crashed. Why?
[05:00] <eck> well i guess it's free as in beer
[05:00] <bruenig> fami, what are you going on about
[05:00] <kalorin> veinor, um... perhaps you've got more to back up than you have ram?
[05:01] <Veinor> (by the way, that was a joke)
[05:01] <bimberi> Opera is in {dapper|edgy}-commercial
[05:01] <kalorin> Veinor, never can tell here man
[05:01] <fami> bruenig: if it is in repo, i can to update easy...
[05:01] <IcemanV9> yikes! apt-cache search opera shows 840 apps! jeez!
[05:01] <bwlang> sponexorz: no, you can't assign a nic to a user
[05:01] <bruenig> fami, what language do you speak
[05:01] <bruenig> well you know the package would be called opera
[05:01] <bwlang> sponexorz: if you really want to do that consider using virtual machines
[05:01] <ramza3> jrib, hmm, but I am still looking for libmysql
[05:01] <bruenig> so just do apt-cache show opera
[05:02] <Veinor> I'm used to chatting with people that're more experienced with the subject matter
[05:02] <Veinor> I'm guessing they have?
[05:02] <spinexorz> you bet
[05:02] <Veinor> openoffice.org
[05:03] <spinexorz> is it possible to create separate groups for two NIC's for the purpose of assigning a specific NIC to a user in a system with multiple NIC's?
[05:03] <rik_> bruenig: I've followed the suggested website several pages deep and am still somewhat confused as to what I need to do. Can you, or someone, please instruct what lines can be appended to /etc/apt/sources.list that will enable the package manager to retrieve win32codecs?
[05:04] <Veinor> I still use Office 2003 on his windows part, but that's just because I have a spare license for it and it is actually better than OO.
[05:04] <Veinor> s/his/my/
[05:04] <OldGeezer> spinexorz- no its not
[05:04] <spinexorz> rik_ try automatix2
[05:04] <kelvin95335> `info
[05:04] <fami> bruenig: ok.. what with language?
[05:04] <spinexorz> is there any way to assign a NIC to a user?
[05:04] <Veinor> Where can I get a copy of Vista for Linux?
[05:05] <spinexorz> OldGeezer
[05:05] <bruenig> fami, do you speak anything other than english
[05:05] <OldGeezer> no
[05:05] <spinexorz> crud
[05:05] <spinexorz> thx
[05:05] <fetcher> spinexorz: running two separate virtual machine environments could do that, but that's quite a job to set up
[05:05] <jrib> ramza3: does that workramza3: well afaik (be forewarned I never worked with mysql in C), libmysqlclient15off is what you want for the regular mysql library, but if you want to abstract it you can use libdbd-mysql
[05:05] <OldGeezer> hardware is not assignable except in a VMenvironment
[05:05] <fami> bruenig: yes, ubuntu is for many language
[05:05] <Veinor> n31 have ne ubuntu serialz? lololol. OK, now I have to wash my hands for doing that.
[05:05] <rik_> spinexorz: I'd prefer to work with what I understand, ed and a terminal screen, and use the package manager.
[05:05] <ramza3> jrib, let me write  a simple C example and get back to you
[05:06] <bruenig> fami, what language do you speak
[05:06] <spinexorz> automatix is literaly a wizard, you dont need to understand it, you allready know
[05:06] <fetcher> spinexorz: what are you looking to do?  Some iproute2 rules could possibly come close, especially if you can convince certain applications to bind to particular IP addresses on the multi-homed box
[05:06] <rmbell> does anyone have a good guide to getting a server going with rails?
[05:06] <IcemanV9> rik_: wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb , THEN sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[05:06] <fami> bruenig: english?
[05:07] <spinexorz> im just looking to have two users each with a respective NIC
[05:07] <OldGeezer> errr I think the IP stacks would have a fit trying to figure out which IP to use
[05:07] <bruenig> dang iceman beat me to it
[05:07] <rik_> IcemanV9: I'll give that a try, and thanks.
[05:07] <bruenig> I was typing that out
[05:07] <bruenig> fami, oh, you don't do so very well, I assumed perhaps it was a second language, and there are other channels with different languages
[05:08] <IcemanV9> :D (better than automatix2 stuff ;)
[05:08] <bruenig> except I was going to && it
[05:08] <Dr_willis> ack.. AUtomatix.. hurts ussssss..... my precious....
[05:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:08] <fetcher> spinexorz: iproute & iptables rules can do things like routing traffic differently based on port number (I do this at home to split traffic across DSL & cable)... still difficult to set up, but less so than VM environments probably
[05:08] <foo> Audacity says: "There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio. Error: Host error." - Any ideas? Other audio works fine.
[05:08] <bwlang> spinexorz: i've already told you , you can't assign users to nics.... maybe you want something like a traffic control script to sessions each get their fair share?
[05:09] <eck> spinexorz: that is not really how network works, you'd have to have some sort of support in the kernel to do that and afaik it does not exist
[05:09] <kalorin> spinexorz, you could potentially do traffic shaping for protocols
[05:09] <IcemanV9> bruenig: ha. yea, i just simpified it and send him to the happy land (able to watch video from apple.com or wherever)
[05:09] <kalorin> but that's about all you can do like that
[05:09] <eck> i'm not really even sure what use case that would be good for
[05:09] <sigger_> how do I turn on the ssh server in ubuntu desktop?
[05:09] <gnat_x> a while back i compiled a couple things from source, that were in the apt repositories. anyway, since i don't have much experience with non apt managed packages, i just wanted som advice on removing them. can i just blow away the dir that they are installed in?
[05:09] <eck> sigger_: just get the openssh-server package
[05:09] <eck> i think it will start itself up
[05:10] <sigger_> ah, thanks eck
[05:10] <gnat_x> umm i mean, were not in the apt repositories
[05:10] <tombow> what are the possible prefixes for scripts (or links to scripts) in /etc/rc2.d?
[05:10] <eck> gnat_x: it sort of depends what prefix you installed them to
[05:10] <eck> gnat_x: if you have the directories you compiled in you can probably make uninstall
[05:11] <gnat_x> eck: ok, cool. i
[05:11] <gnat_x> will try that
[05:11] <bruenig> gnat_x, you can just delete all the files that it installed
[05:11] <gnat_x> bruenig: i'll try that failing a make uninstall.
[05:11] <fami> bruenig: oh yes, have you any sugguestion to improve english skill?
[05:11] <eck> if you installed to /usr it might be kind of hard to find all the files it installed
[05:11] <crazy_bus> I installed edubuntu on a friends computer.  However while the resolution is meant to be 1280x it only displays 800x600 and wont go higher.  How do I fix this?
[05:12] <bruenig> fami, I mean you aren't bad, its just that ubuntu has a channel for nearly every language, so it would probably be easier for you to go to those channels
[05:12] <sigger_> eck: bingo.  thanks.
[05:12] <tombow> what are the possible prefixes for scripts (or links to scripts) in /etc/rc2.d?
[05:13] <rik_> IcemanV9 & bruenig: Slow connection here in Thailand, so it's showing an ETA of 48+ minutes, but working.
[05:13] <kalorin> S and K I think
[05:13] <spinexorz> thx to all that replied
[05:13] <kalorin> tombow, S and K
[05:13] <kalorin> S for start, K for kill
[05:13] <gnat_x> eck: great that look like it worked, thanks for answering my stupid questions.
[05:13] <eck> haha, no problem
[05:13] <kalorin> I live for stupid questions
[05:13] <kalorin> :)
[05:13] <fami> bruenig: thanks for that info.
[05:14] <tombow> kalorin, only 2? i've seen others in other distros iirc
[05:14] <fami> :) got flash + opera works
[05:14] <kalorin> those are the ones that I've seen
[05:14] <IcemanV9> rik_: ah. it's only 14M file. :/
[05:14] <kalorin> rc2.d is run level 2 obviously
[05:14] <kalorin> it's going to either start it or stop it
[05:14] <gnat_x> yeah, i've been using linux for a while, just never stepped out of managed packages much
[05:14] <kalorin> they're just symlinks to /etc/init.d
[05:14] <kalorin> and the script after the K##<name>
[05:14] <eck> gnat_x: next time prefix the packages to /usr/local and make things easy on yourself
[05:14] <spinexorz> im guessing that the things you can do with multiple NIC's are very limited
[05:14] <kalorin> or S##<name>
[05:15] <sammyF> can anybody tell me in which directory xorg looks for drivers? I seem to have installed the new ATI drivers alright, but apparently they are not called fglrx (probably fglrx-something)
[05:15] <eck> usually with ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[05:15] <kalorin> spinexorz, you could just alias your nick and do it all with 1 :)
[05:15] <gnat_x> eck: i did in fact to that. in which case i could've rm -rf'd em?
[05:15] <bruenig> it generally prefixes to /usr/local anyways
[05:15] <eck> gnat_x: yeah, if that's the only thing you have in there
[05:15] <kalorin> sammyF, kernel drivers or others?
[05:15] <kalorin> kernel drivers are going to be in /lib/kernel or something such
[05:15] <rik_> IcemanV9: I'm on a satellite and the Gov is fighting over who should own it now, Thailand or Singapore.
[05:15] <eck> bruenig: you never know :-)
[05:15] <kalorin> do a dpkg -l *fglrx*
[05:16] <sammyF> kalorin, If I only knew ;)
[05:16] <kalorin> get the package name then ask the package for it's contents
[05:16] <thursday241> 
[05:16] <kalorin> rik_, I ove thailand
[05:16] <sammyF> kalorin, I have the package here on my desktop
[05:16] <eck> rik_: they don't know whose satellite it is???
[05:16] <kalorin> rik_, they've got more famous hookers :)
[05:17] <kalorin> sammyF, just ask it with dpkg
[05:17] <rik_> eck: Thaksin, the deposed PM sold it to Singapore.
[05:17] <sammyF> kalorin, could it be fglrx_drv.so ?
[05:17] <spinexorz> kalorin i think that doesnt apply to my case, i need two users two nic's but it cant be done
[05:18] <kalorin> sammyF, very well could be
[05:18] <rik_> kalorin: The hookers are far from me, I'm about 2 clicks from Laos.
[05:18] <kalorin> ah
[05:18] <sammyF> kalorin,  well ..I'll try that. THanks ..
[05:19] <kalorin> sure
[05:19] <kalorin> heh
[05:19] <eck> i say whoever has the ssh key (or whatever they use) owns it
[05:19] <eck> i could totally run a country
[05:19] <spinexorz> i understand it is possible to setup asingle system with 2 displays and 2 sets of mouse and keyboard, isnt that the same as assigning something like a NIC
[05:19] <kalorin> running xubuntu with a vmware instance running XP running photoshop
[05:19] <kalorin> 259megs of ram used
[05:19] <kalorin> 14megs of swap
[05:19] <kalorin> beautiful
[05:19] <kalorin> editing wedding photos :)
[05:20] <Crescendo> I need to sort my entire MP3 collection by directory, some items of which have bad tags, or none at all. What is my best option?
[05:20] <kalorin> I love "teh Lunix!"
[05:20] <spinexorz> i even read somewhere that you could assign a soundcard
[05:20] <Dr_willis> spinexorz,  i imagine its doable.. but may take some work.
[05:20] <IcemanV9> sammyF: what are you trying to do? xorg.conf will find it and displays X with fglrx driver. (fglrxinfo will give details)
[05:20] <kalorin> spinexorz, you're talking about Xwindows
[05:20] <Madpilot> Crescendo, EasyTag is a good tag editor; it has mass-editing options to tweak whole batches of files at once, which will help if you've got a mess to sort out
[05:20] <spinexorz> it was a nblog article about making a internet cafe on the cheap
[05:20] <Dr_willis> spinexorz,  easier to just get a 2nd  cheap pc and have it work as a 'x terminal'
[05:20] <eck> spinexorz: that is different, that has the cooperation of the X server
[05:20] <kalorin> and more specifically running 2 clients
[05:21] <Crescendo> Madpilot, thanks a bunch. :)
[05:21] <kalorin> nics aren't liek that
[05:21] <kalorin> sorry
[05:21] <mmdf_xp> alguem me ajuda , tem um amigo que ta sem adsl ele tem o modem : PCTel micro modem sera que e dificil instala?
[05:21] <bruenig> !es
[05:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:21] <eck> spinexorz: it is possible to write a program to use a specific interface, but you need to explicitly code that in to your application
[05:21] <spinexorz> yea
[05:21] <spinexorz> thanks a bunch
[05:21] <spinexorz> im out
[05:21] <Crescendo> My #1 fear, Madpilot - is when I go to rename the files, if a file has tags, but they're wrong, it'll erase the possibility of nabbing the correct tag info from the filename. =(
[05:21] <rik_> IcemanV9: Getting about 3 KB/s and 12 MB to go with an ETA near an hour, so I'll let it run and do something on another system until it finishes.
[05:21] <lxuser> somebody know how can I add a wm (windows manager to gdm), have already compiled kde with construct and I would like to load it from gdm
[05:22] <kalorin> maybe I watch BSG while I'm working on these photos :)
[05:22] <Madpilot> Crescendo, edit the tag first, then rename - EasyTag can do the file renaming too
[05:22] <IcemanV9> rik_: you'll be fine once you installed it :D
[05:22] <Flannel> lxuser: why did you compile it?  It's in the repositories
[05:22] <Flannel> lxuser: and, the one from the repositories, adds an entry to GDM
[05:22] <Crescendo> Madpilot, yep, that's what I'm talking about - but I'm afraid of doing a full recursive rename, because I have no idea what files are tagged wrong. :(
[05:22] <michael_the_choi> would anyone know why the panel NetworkManager Applet would be goofing up my wireless?
[05:23] <Madpilot> Crescendo, ah... messy. You might be reduced to checking the tags & name of each individual MP3 file, which is no fun...
[05:23] <eck> michael_the_choi: it does that sometimes
[05:23] <eck> what is it doing?
[05:24] <lxuser> I know but what to test it from source just to see how it works, anyway It is installed in my home dir soo no problem with messing up things right
[05:24] <Crescendo> Madpilot, maybe a backup is in order?
[05:24] <Madpilot> Crescendo, if you've got the space, it might not be a bad idea.
[05:24] <IneedHelp> im desperate for help
[05:24] <michael_the_choi> eck- it won't let me connect. ;-) It sees my modem, but the icon spins and then it gives up.  I asked a linux friend of mine (who, however, doesn't use ubuntu), and he said the config files were right, and to reboot and just try it- and it worked, but the panel applet says there's no connection, and evidently, as soon as I click it, it wipes the information.
[05:24] <fami> I have some TTFs font, could i add them to ubuntu LTS?
[05:24] <Crescendo> It might be tight, I'll check.  Thanks for your help, Madpilot.
[05:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, ask | IneedHelp
[05:24] <ubotu> IneedHelp: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:24] <Madpilot> fami, yes
[05:25] <Madpilot> ubotu, fonts | fami
[05:25] <ubotu> fami: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:25] <eck> michael_the_choi: see if you can get it going with dhclient (I am assuming you are using dhcp)
[05:25] <fami> Madpilot: one click?
[05:25] <IneedHelp> well, my xp wont load on my other computer, ubuntu isnt even loaded on my system, yet i cannot boot to my xp
[05:25] <michael_the_choi> eck- it's going now.
[05:25] <ScreaminIke> so... i had this app built into my windows install to access my ext3 partitions. and it works. mostly. except ubuntu handles filenames that include colons. win32 does not. and i'm pretty sure that win32 just hosed the whole part. can i get some help recovering it? it thinks it's clean, but it can't access anything...
[05:25] <Madpilot> fami, not quite one click, but no more steps than adding fonts to XP requires. Have a look at the URL the bot just gave you
[05:25] <michael_the_choi> Because I haven't clicked the applet. ;-)
[05:26] <IneedHelp> i tried to disable and run on integrated graphics because i have an ATI car, well after i did that. XP wont work
[05:26] <IcemanV9> fami: it is in repo, too. - sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[05:26] <michael_the_choi> But I don't understand all the secret inner workings, and would like to know that if I go to Panera, I can join their network too, and stuff.
[05:26] <IneedHelp> I hear XP boot. I hear that opening tune. However, i cant see anything
[05:27] <IneedHelp> I just see a black screen
[05:27] <eck> michael_the_choi: i say just cross your fingers when the next version comes out. there used to be a wireless AP that I just could not connect to with NM, but I had absolutely no issues with iwconfig and dhclient
[05:27] <rikc> Would anyone mind helping me upgrade Amarok and install MP3 support?  I've tried several guides, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I cannot get this to work.
[05:27] <michael_the_choi> whacky.
[05:27] <eck> i think what happens is sometimes NM gets into a mode where it keeps trying to reconnect before it finishes the handshake
[05:27] <IneedHelp> I know that it booted but there is only a black screen with no signal
[05:27] <michael_the_choi> Ok, I'll just leave it alone for now.  Is that something that it'll automatically check for updates on?
[05:27] <workbee> hi all, am having a wired networking issue. It connects but then as soon as it tries to transmit data the connection drops and then reconnects, happening every time. Any ideas how I can troubleshoot this?
[05:28] <cyprene> g 9870
[05:28] <fami> Madpilot: wish to have a tool that browse to the dir that included fonts then install
[05:28] <IcemanV9> IneedHelp: can you Ctrl+Alt+F1 ? were you able to see console login??
[05:29] <IneedHelp> no
[05:29] <fami> IcemanV9: its not mstfffont
[05:29] <rikc> anyone?
[05:29] <IneedHelp> once XP loaded and the opening tune was played, there was no signal
[05:29] <IneedHelp> i checked all my plugs and connections
[05:29] <Madpilot> fami, there isn't really a tool like that AFAIK
[05:29] <Kewlb> basic question.. not really ubuntu related and probably a dumb question... can you run a 32 bit OS if you have a 64 bit proccessor?
[05:29] <Madpilot> Kewlb, yes
[05:30] <IneedHelp> i know that my monitor is fine because i saw the POST screen for my mobo and the loading screen for xp with the bar bouncing back and forth
[05:30] <IcemanV9> oh! you cannot do Ctrl+Alt+F1 in XP.
[05:30] <Kewlb> k, tkz.
[05:30] <tombow> is there a way to remove drm from wmv's?
[05:30] <eck> workbee: i would turn off ipv6 (and maybe tcp window scaling) and see if that fixes anything... if you are really feeling ambitious you can open up wireshark and see what is happening when the connection drops
[05:30] <tombow> in linux
[05:30] <fami> Madpilot: ubuntu would have?
[05:30] <IcemanV9> fami: ok.
[05:30] <russel1> tombow: not really
[05:30] <IneedHelp> i cant see anything
[05:30] <Madpilot> fami, no, Ubuntu doesn't have a tool like that as far as I know. It's easy to install/uninstall fonts, though.
[05:30] <rikc> well, thanks anyway.
[05:30] <tombow> damn
[05:31] <IneedHelp> i really need help because i have a thesis paper to wrie and my rough draft was on my other computer
[05:31] <russel1> as far as I know you have to open the .wmv in media player and use one of the programs that somehow decrypts it from there (steals the key from media player I think)
[05:31] <russel1> you could run XP in a virtual machine though
[05:31] <fami> Madpilot: ok. many people (include me) likes that
[05:31] <workbee> eck: looking at the syslog I do see a message saying that no IPv6 routers are present. How do i go about turning off ipv6?
[05:31] <ardchoille> !ipv6
[05:31] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:32] <workbee> thanks :)
[05:32] <ardchoille> :)
[05:32] <eck> IneedHelp: it could be that your video card died
[05:32] <IneedHelp> well shit
[05:32] <IneedHelp> how can i be sure?
[05:33] <fami> Madpilot: its easy ;)
[05:33] <IneedHelp> how can i tell if my card is dead?
[05:34] <eck> IneedHelp: can you see anything when you start the computer? like when it posts?
[05:34] <IneedHelp> yes
[05:34] <eck> see if you can boot into single user mode
[05:34] <eck> it's the recovery option in grub
[05:34] <IneedHelp> I can see everything normal except the blue xp screen that says like "welcom"
[05:36] <eck> probably you got lucky and the basic functionality of the video card still works, but whatever components the accelerated video driver tries to use have failed
[05:36] <IcemanV9> IneedHelp: try xp in safe mode
[05:36] <IneedHelp> how can i be sure?
[05:37] <eck> well if it works with the linux vesa driver and whatever safe mode uses, but not with your normal desktop, you'll be pretty sure
[05:37] <IneedHelp> thats the problem
[05:37] <IneedHelp> i cannot even get the livecd to work
[05:37] <rikc> Anyone at all able to help me upgrade amarok and set up mp3 support?  I've tried the official site, several different guides, Easyubuntu, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.  Anyone?
[05:38] <reaspired> I trying to get mythtv to work, I made a user but home folder doesnt exist. sudo useradd mythtv
[05:39] <jrandolph> i'm having trouble installing my ATI x800 graphics card... can anyone point me to some good resources?
[05:39] <IneedHelp> when i tried to get ubuntu to work, i changed a setting in my BIOS to switch the initial monitor from PCI to PEB. then when that didnt work i changed it back, then i got my problem
[05:39] <OldGeezer> !ati
[05:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:39] <eck> reaspired: then create the home directory
[05:39] <jrandolph> thanks ubotu, i hope it works
[05:39] <eck> i think it will be created if you just try to su to the account
[05:40] <rikc> Hell, even a link to an FAQ I may not have tried would be appreciated.  Just something?
[05:40] <arrow> anyone in here play widelands?
[05:40] <Hmmmm> guys, what time does the daily cron run?
[05:40] <Sonic_13> if i want to set up a home server where I can save and access files, would it better to setup and FTP or NFS server?
[05:40] <CarpeD> evening fellas :)
[05:41] <reaspired> eck, it doesn't create a home folder, I set its group as a same as main account, as it says in a guide.
[05:41] <eck> Sonic_13: nfs is better for a lan
[05:41] <jrandolph> capreD, that's kind of presumptions of you... what if there aren't guys here...
[05:41] <jrandolph> aww who am i kidding
[05:41] <Sonic_13> ok
[05:41] <russel1> lol!
[05:41] <CarpeD> fellas could mean guys and gals...i would hope
[05:41] <Sonic_13> what if I wanted both lan and wan?
[05:41] <arrow> Sonic_13: my roomie keeps talking about a NAS server, networked attached storage, you might want to check it out
[05:41] <rikc> Great, guess I'm still on my own.  thanks anyway.
[05:42] <billy> So is GnomeSword2 simple not installable on Edgy?
[05:42] <eck> reaspired: i think you need to pass a special option to create the homedirectory with useradd, if it doesn't exist you should just create it yourself
[05:42] <russel1> does anyone here go to Oregon State University?
[05:42] <Sonic_13> ok
[05:42] <russel1> and/or have experience with their network?
[05:42] <CarpeD> is there a way to use acronis iso image to restore a dual boot ubuntu install?
[05:42] <lance_> Hi everyone, I just upgrade my computer a few days ago. My older one was an 800mhz athlon with 256mb of memory running Dapper, it worked fairly well... My new system is a P4 2ghz with also 256mb of memory running edgy.. The problem is my new system is crawling, its running at less than 1/3 of the speed of the older system and is nearly 500mb in swap.
[05:42] <dannyc> I am trying to install vmware on ubuntu server and am getting an error suring installationa bout the time being in the future, I am assuming this is from the DST updates. does anyone know how to update the time for the new DST in ubuntu server?
[05:42] <CarpeD> and not get the grub error 22
[05:42] <eck> arrow, Sonic_13: that is bascially just a fancy way of using nfs :-)
[05:43] <OldGeezer> Sonic_13 if you get a NAS be sure and check the specs, some of the cheap ones only allow 5 concurrent connections at once
[05:43] <arrow> eck: my ignorance revealed
[05:43] <Sonic_13> if I set up a NFS server can I access it from outside my LAN?
[05:43] <russel1> lance_: is it using all of the physical memory? what is the CPU doing?
[05:43] <eck> Sonic_13: well you can natively mount an nfs share, not so with ftp
[05:43] <lance_> russel1, all the physical is being used up as well, the CPU usage is fine.
[05:43] <detectiveinspekt> how do I change the SPEED of the mouse?
[05:43] <eck> Sonic_13: they're useful for different things
[05:43] <Sonic_13> hmmm
[05:43] <detectiveinspekt> I seem to be working too hard
[05:43] <OldGeezer> Sonic_13 you can use VPN to get to it
[05:43] <russel1> how much swap do you have?
[05:43] <eck> detectiveinspekt: xset m a b
[05:44] <eck> replace a and b with appropriate numbers
[05:44] <lance_> russel1, it's also a fresh install, just a couple of days ago.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> i dident think 'nfs' was considered safe to go out over the wild and nasty internet. :)
[05:44] <eck> the man page explains what they mean
[05:44] <billy> Any good Bible study apps in Edgy?
[05:44] <Pollywog> Dr_willis: correct
[05:44] <ardchoille> detectiveinspekt: Preferences -> Mouse  go to the Motion tab
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !find bible
[05:44] <ubotu> Found: bible-kjv, bible-kjv-text, bibledit, bibletime, bibletime-i18n
[05:44] <Steve-O> I'm new to computers.  I'm trying to watch a DVD on Ubuntu.  Am I at the right place?
[05:44] <russel1> lance_, how much swap do you have?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[05:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:44] <OldGeezer> Sonic_13 VPN would be a better option for accessing a NFS or NAS device
[05:44] <dragonriot> !find ninan
[05:44] <dannyc> Does anyone know hot do do the new DST updates in Ubuntu Server 6.06?
[05:44] <ubotu> Package/file ninan does not exist in edgy
[05:45] <lance_> russel1, approximately 700mb
[05:45] <billy> If only you know, Dr_willis, how totally lame those programs are.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> billy,  no idea.. not the sort of thing i really care about.. You asked.. i answered. :)
[05:45] <Veinor> Argh.
[05:45] <Sonic_13> i would set up a VPN with my wireless router, right?
[05:45] <Veinor> I installed ubuntu, and now I can't boot to my windows partitin.
[05:45] <billy> Dr_willis.  No, ubotu answered.  Thanks though.
[05:45] <russel1> lance_ have you messed with your graphics driver?
[05:45] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Watching a DVD?
[05:46] <eck> dannyc: the timezone files were updated to reflect the changes some time ago
[05:46] <dragonriot> anyone here running ninan??  www.ninan.org if you don't know what it is... no matter what I do, or how I do it, I can't get that thing to run...
[05:46] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[05:46] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:46] <con-man> lolololol
[05:46] <arrow> Steve-O: use VLC
[05:46] <Dr_willis> billy,  but who told the bot to answer you. :)
[05:46] <detectiveinspekt> ty
[05:46] <lance_> russel1, So my new system runngin edgy is using up all of the 256mb of physical memory, plus nearly 500mb of swap. Needless to say, its crawling like a baby, switching between two open windows takes minutes at some times.
[05:46] <shane634> dannyc, mine is working great with no need to change the time
[05:46] <lance_> russel1, no.
[05:46] <Sonic_13> so if I set up my ubuntu computer for NFS and then use a VPN for outside access, would that be ok / secure?
[05:46] <OldGeezer> Sonic_13 VPN would be setup in the router for passthrough, yes but remember its for WAN access of the network
[05:47] <Sonic_13> ok
[05:47] <lance_> russel1, its running the standard i810 intel driver
[05:47] <naknomik> Samba 3.0 server, Vista Ultimate client don't play well. Can't see directory listing from Vista if I use UNC (\\server\share\directory etc.), if I map the share as drive I can see the files but most apps fail to load those files unless I manually copy them to local disk. Has anybody encountered this problem?
[05:47] <Steve-O> It worked using totem
[05:47] <dragonriot> !wmp
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <russel1> hmmm..... thats really strange, I have a system about like that (athlon xp 1700+, 256mb of RAM) and its fairly snappy
[05:47] <naknomik> here is my samba config: http://pastebin.ca/394132
[05:47] <Steve-O> should i do something better?
[05:47] <Veinor> When I boot into Vista, it just displays the loading (the scrolling green procress bar) for a while.
[05:47] <russel1> try the forums (www.ubuntuforums.org)
[05:47] <Veinor> Maybe it's actually loading, but I don't think so. It usually takes a lot less time.
[05:47] <mistone> naknomik: thats retarded that vista doesn't follow same standards as XP
[05:47] <arrow> Steve-O: I like totem also, did you have a question?
[05:47] <shane634> vista is bad
[05:47] <eck> lance_: you should use top or ps to see what is hogging all the ram
[05:47] <dragonriot> vista sucks
[05:47] <Veinor> Any idea WTF is going on?
[05:47] <mistone> I tried vista
[05:47] <mistone> then I went back to ubuntu
[05:48] <mistone> its horrible
[05:48] <Steve-O> No, but this is the first good news I had since using linux
[05:48] <Veinor> And can someone please offer me some more advice than "vista sucks?"
[05:48] <arrow> I got a bad vista no littering picture on my Myspace
[05:48] <mistone> uninstall it
[05:48] <Veinor> I already know that.
[05:48] <rbil> !resolution
[05:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:48] <lance_> eck, tried that, what should i look at? virtual? resident, or shared memory?
[05:48] <shane634> Veinor, sorry i can't
[05:48] <mistone> use XP
[05:48] <con-man> !X
[05:48] <mistone> its decent
[05:48] <dannyc> eck: I am getting :Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.
[05:48] <dannyc> tar: vmmon-only/linux/driver.h: time stamp 2007-02-04 23:24:45 is 34566265 s in the future
[05:48] <arrow> Steve-O: I switched over 6 months ago and love, I can't find a irc to help me with windows problems
[05:48] <Veinor> Advice on how to fix the boot, something that doesn't involve losing all that data.
[05:49] <Sonic_13> is there a help page that could guide me on accessing the NFS server from a Windows XP machine?
[05:49] <eck> i think resident, or else you can just take the easy way out and look at the memory percentage (in top)
[05:49] <jesusphreak> how do I get ubuntu to boot up when I am turning on my Macbook (from the Live CD)?
[05:49] <mistone> how do I format a microSD card?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> jesusphreak,  i think you hold down the C key
[05:49] <mistone> with 64k allocation
[05:49] <jesusphreak> is that shift-c or just 'c'?
[05:49] <Steve-O> Does anybody know why my desktop icons are disappearing?  Does this sound familiar?  I've been having this problema dn the only way to resolve it is by rebooting.
[05:50] <Pollywog> you mean 64MB?
[05:50] <mistone> no?
[05:50] <Pollywog> never seen a 64Kb one
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Steve-O,  which icons? all of them ? or just some?
[05:50] <mistone> Fat16 64k allocation
[05:50] <mistone> thats what I meant
[05:50] <Pollywog> o
[05:50] <Steve-O> all of them
[05:50] <mistone> its for a gig stick
[05:50] <mistone> er
[05:50] <ardchoille> Steve-O: The desktop icons are managed by nautilus. If nautilus dies, the desktop icons will go away. Do you also lose your desktop right click menu?
[05:50] <mistone> card
[05:51] <Steve-O> I don't know.  It sometimes happens when I'm right-clicking an icon and click on Properties in the context menu.  Then it freezes.  Just the menu and my icons disappear
[05:52] <Steve-O> how would I know if Nautilus died?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> if the icons and right click meny vanish. :)
[05:52] <ardchoille> Steve-O: When that happens, just restart nautilus and see if that helps.
[05:52] <Steve-O> HOw do I do that?
[05:53] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Applications -> Accessories -> File Browser
[05:53] <fami> too great
[05:53] <Flannel> dannyc: is your hardware clock set correctly?
[05:53] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Are you using Feisty?
[05:53] <Steve-O> I don't have File Browser under Accessories.
[05:53] <Steve-O> I'm using Edgy
[05:53] <lance_> eck, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10315/  is the top 6 memory usage processes from top
[05:53] <jeisma> how do i find where my linux source directory is located?
[05:54] <Sonic_13> anyone have a link to a help page / guide for setting up NFS?
[05:54] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Well, you can run nautilus from a terminal or make a panel launcher for it
[05:54] <fami> ubuntu LTS works great
[05:54] <Steve-O> I'm not sure what to type in the terminal
[05:54] <Pollywog> jeisma did you look in /usr/src/linux?
[05:54] <tombow> i just installed LTS server on 5 servers at work
[05:54] <fami> my desktop is cool now :)
[05:54] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[05:54] <b00gz> Sonic_13: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[05:54] <b00gz> ardchoille beat me to it
[05:54] <Sonic_13> thanks!
[05:54] <jeisma> Pollywog im installing a wireless network adaptor wpc11 ver3, and one of the questions was if that path was the linux source directory to just hit enter
[05:55] <jeisma> otherwise enter the path
[05:55] <jeisma> i hit enter, and it indicated that that wasn't it i guess
[05:55] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Just type nautilus in the terminal
[05:55] <jeisma> any way to find where my linux source directory is?
[05:55] <Pollywog> jeisma: have you installed the kernel sources?
[05:55] <arrow> Steve-O: try nautilus
[05:55] <jeisma> Pollywog i'm guessing now, how do i go about doing that?
[05:55] <Steve-O> That's awesome
[05:55] <jeisma> not*
[05:55] <tombow> jeisma: usually /usr/src/linux or /usr/src/linux-*
[05:56] <Sonic_13> it says "E: Couldn't find package nfs-kerner-server"
[05:56] <Steve-O> So it opened up the root file, I suppose.
[05:56] <Pollywog> jeisma: the 'uname -a' command will tell you which kernel headers and sources you need to install
[05:56] <jimd3299> Hi there, If I can ask a noob question.  It appears that there are more applications installed in the default than are listed in the menus e.g. Bittorrent.  How can I make menu items of software that is already on my new ubuntu system?  I'm aware of Add/Remove and Synaptic, just curious about "what I've already got"
[05:57] <ardchoille> jimd3299: Right click the menu, choose Edit Menu, and then check the ones you want to appear
[05:57] <Steve-O> So I should restart it?  How is that?
[05:57] <jeisma> Pollywog i got this:  #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:58] <dannyc> Does anyone know why I recieve this message on a fresh isntall of Ubuntu Server 6.06? tar: vmware-mui-distrib/mui/src/lib: time stamp 2007-02-05 00:18:29 is 34568906 s in the future
[05:58] <Akuma_> my networking interface died - a get the bug report tool every time i try to open it, and i have no working internet connection. can anyone help?
[05:58] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Open a terminal, type nautilus, press the Enter key
[05:58] <jeisma> where do i download whatever that means?
[05:58] <Sonic_13> is it difficult to install apache to host a web page on lan?
[05:58] <b00gz> Sonic_13: very easy
[05:58] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: No
[05:58] <Steve-O> I did that and it apparently opened up my root folder
[05:58] <Pollywog> that is all it says?
[05:58] <jimd3299> ardchoille: so there aren't any "more" than those lurking on my HD?  I see Bittorrent but I guess I figured there was stuff that wasn't listed in the menu/edit...
[05:58] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Are you logged in as root?
[05:58] <Pollywog> uname -a
[05:59] <b00gz> Sonic_13: check out this site http://www.howtoforge.com
[05:59] <shane634> Akuma_, wired or wireless?
[05:59] <ardchoille> jimd3299: The items in the menus are parsed from the items in /usr/share/applications
[05:59] <jeisma> Pollywog this came before it: 2.6.15-23-386
[05:59] <ctrl_x> can any one tell me can i install win98Se over ubuntu, i have total 40 Gb of HDD
[05:59] <Pollywog> jeisma that is what you need, that part you just posted
[05:59] <Steve-O> Actually i am and I don't know why, but a buddy of mine who installed the OS has told me that I can only use the root until he does something with it.
[05:59] <kaushal> Hi
[05:59] <Steve-O> Is this a problem?
[05:59] <jeisma> Pollywog so how do I go about installing the kernel source or whatever?
[05:59] <Akuma_> shane634:  wireless. i'm connected to the lan though, i just dont get any internet connection (3 other computers on the lan are).
[05:59] <shane634> jeisma, you should put windows on first then ubuntu
[05:59] <ardchoille> jeisma: Which Ubuntu are you using?
[05:59] <Steve-O> I have no idea what root even means
[06:00] <kaushal> when i try to install stunnel4_4.090-1_i386.deb
[06:00] <kaushal> I get
[06:00] <jeisma> shane534 i have windows on here, my network adaptors aren't working
[06:00] <Sonic_13> thanks for that link
[06:00] <jeisma> ardchoille the most recent one i'm guessing
[06:00] <kaushal> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xf7fb6154 ***
[06:00] <shane634> Akuma_, which card is it?
[06:00] <kaushal> /var/lib/dpkg/info/stunnel4.postinst: line 45: 31360 Aborted                 $ADDUSER --system --disabled-password --disabled-login --home /var/run/stunnel4 --no-create-home --group $USER
[06:00] <shane634> jeisma, same what card?
[06:00] <Akuma_> shane634:  my biggest concern though is that when i try to open the graphical interface (System -> Administration -> Networking) i get the bug report tool
[06:01] <jeisma> shane634 i was trying to use wpc54g or whatever that one is and now im using wpc11
[06:01] <b00gz> Steve-O: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
[06:01] <shane634> Akuma_,  we may be able to fix that
[06:01] <Pollywog> jeisma 'apt-get install linux-kernel-source-2.6.15-23-386'
[06:01] <ardchoille> jeisma: If yo have kernel 2.6.15-23-386, then you either are using an older Ubuntu release or you really need to update.
[06:02] <ctrl_x> any one here tell me
[06:02] <ardchoille> jeisma: The current kernel on Ubuntu Dapper is 2.6.15-28-386
[06:02] <jeisma> ardchoille thanks for that i'll update first
[06:02] <ctrl_x> can i install win98 over ubuntu
[06:02] <jeisma> ardchoille so do i just need to do software updates, andthat'll upgrade it?
[06:02] <Akuma_> shane634:  that'd be great - cause right now i'm contemplating reinstalling everything, and i'd rather avoid that..
[06:02] <shane634> ctrl_x, it is recommended to install windows first
[06:02] <Pollywog> jeisma are you installing a dual boot system?
[06:02] <Steve-O> I've read that page and all other Wikipedia pages about computers and nothing sinks in.  I should have a PhD in Wikipedia by nmow.
[06:02] <Gabz> ctrl_x: the problem is none here wants you to isntall windows :P
[06:03] <ardchoille> jeisma: I would suggest updating everything before installing software, unless you have a good reason not to
[06:03] <jeisma> Pollywog Well, I already have the dual boot system.
[06:03] <jeisma> Pollywog after updates, should i go about doing the same thing and replace the numbers into the apt-get install
[06:03] <Pollywog> jeisma: k then I don't have to tell you to install Windows first and then Linux :)
[06:03] <ctrl_x> So you guys means i have to install window first right
[06:03] <jeisma> Pollywog ha yeah, already done
[06:03] <Pollywog> ctrl_x: yes
[06:03] <ardchoille> Steve-O: If you are using the root account because your buddy told you to always use it, then you really need a new buddy ;)
[06:03] <Gabz> ctrl_x: do you want to dual boot ?
[06:03] <Sonic_13> does apache have to be installed with php?
[06:04] <Steve-O> I know nothing about this stuff.
[06:04] <jeisma> ardchoille does doing software updates, update the ubuntu system to dapper?
[06:04] <hole> is there anyone here who knows how to make windows programs under wine recognize the cdrom?
[06:04] <ctrl_x> Gabz, yes dual Boot
[06:04] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: It doesn't have to be, no, but you will need it if you are planning to serve php scripts.
[06:04] <Steve-O> What is wrong with that?  He told me just until he configures it or something.
[06:04] <Sonic_13> i'm not planning on doing that
[06:04] <shane634> ctrl_x, yes
[06:04] <ardchoille> jeisma: No, software updates simply updates the software in your current release
[06:05] <jeisma> ardchoille ok so how do i update my ubuntu?
[06:05] <shane634> Akuma_, hit me up on yahoo at shane634 we will see what we can do
[06:05] <Sonic_13> just basic html pages
[06:05] <Steve-O> He told me that I'm not supposed to do this, but he told me that it's the only way to do it until it's finished.
[06:05] <ardchoille> jeisma: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:05] <bwlang> Steve-O: it's generally considerd very bad form to use the root account for anything but system administration
[06:05] <Akuma_> shane634:  yahoo mail?
[06:06] <jeisma> Pollywog_ after i do a dist-upgrade, would i still need to install the kernel sources?
[06:06] <shane634> Akuma_, ymessenger
[06:06] <kaushal> Hi
[06:06] <kaushal> I have pasted it here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10316/
[06:06] <Sonic_13> is it possible to accidentally install apache twice?
[06:06] <ardchoille> Steve-O: The root account is disabled in Ubuntu, sounds like your buddy enabled it.. which is a bad idea to begin with.
[06:06] <shane634> Akuma_, if you have msn shane47143@hotmail.com
[06:06] <Steve-O> That's probably why nothing's working right.
[06:06] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Could be
[06:06] <Akuma_> shane634:  msn is better - i'll have to install game first
[06:06] <shane634> Akuma_, this place is crazy busy lol
[06:07] <Akuma_> shane634:  *gaim
[06:07] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: You'd have to go out of your way to do that.
[06:07] <Sonic_13> ok
[06:07] <shane634> Akuma_, no prob let me know when you are on
[06:07] <Steve-O> Why in Sam Hll's name would he tell me to use it for the time being?  Why couldn't I use the non superuser?
[06:07] <Klonoa> Can Ubuntu be installed through a network?
[06:07] <ardchoille> Steve-O: No offense, but maybe he doesn't quite know what he's doing?
[06:08] <Steve-O> I can't wait to tell him that
[06:08] <Klonoa> Say, if I install Ubuntu with one computer onto another through IEEE 1394, is that possible?
[06:08] <OldGeezer> !nboot
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <Gabz> ctrl_x: did you leave space on your hard drive to install windows ?
[06:09] <Sonic_13> sweet
[06:09] <Sonic_13> now how do I add files to the apache folder?
[06:09] <OldGeezer> Kolonoa yes you can do network installs
[06:09] <bwlang> Klonoa: i don't know about 1394... but you could do it with a crossover ethernet cable
[06:09] <Klonoa> Ok
[06:09] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: Add them to /var/www
[06:09] <Klonoa> Oh
[06:09] <ctrl_x> Gabz, No all 40 Gb dedicated to ubuntu
[06:09] <ubuntu> !iso
[06:09] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:09] <Sonic_13> ok
[06:10] <Klonoa> Heh, do I have to install Ubuntu on the first computer? Or can I just use that one to install it on the target computer
[06:10] <ardchoille> !sudo > Steve-O
[06:10] <ardchoille> Steve-O: Read that :)
[06:10] <Steve-O> the iso link?
[06:10] <ctrl_x> Gabz, what gparted for, will this one work
[06:10] <ardchoille> Steve-O: The pm that ubotu sent you
[06:10] <Steve-O> on the terminal?
[06:11] <ardchoille> Steve-O: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:11] <ctrl_x> Gabz, Do you have knowledge about Gparted
[06:11] <bwlang> Klonoa: you could just use it serve the files if you want to.
[06:12] <bwlang> Klonoa: do you not have a cd in the second computer?
[06:12] <rm_you> In gentoo I can find out what package a file belongs to by using "equery provides /some/file"... is there a way to do that with apt or some other tool?
[06:12] <OldGeezer> Klonoa read this https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/index.html
[06:12] <Sonic_13> it says I do not have permission to add files to the /var/www folder...
[06:12] <OldGeezer> it includes everything for network installs
[06:12] <Sonic_13> how do i get permission?
[06:12] <Gabz> ctrl_x: um not gparted
[06:12] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: You need to use sudo
[06:13] <Sonic_13> oh
[06:13] <Sonic_13> what command do i type to do that?
[06:13] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: sudo cp file /var/www
[06:13] <fizzmahon> anyone know when 7.04 beta coming out?
[06:14] <ubuntu> mount imagen.mdf /path/mount_directory -o loop=/dev/loop0
[06:14] <ubuntu> heko
[06:14] <ubuntu> help
[06:14] <ubuntu> what that mean loop=/dev/loop0
[06:14] <kaushal> Hi
[06:15] <kaushal> I was expecting an answer here
[06:15] <ubuntu> i want to mount the mdf image and it give me sudo mount UNL-PCM2006.mdf STARCRAFT.part1 -o loop=mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[06:15] <OldGeezer> !feisty
[06:15] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:15] <ardchoille> huckster: That would be correct :)
[06:15] <ubuntu> someone give fast reply
[06:16] <Sonic_13> i'm sorry, but how do i add files to the apache folder?
[06:16] <Sonic_13> i didn't get it the first time
[06:17] <ubuntu> sudo mount UNL-PCM2006.mdf STARCRAFT.part1 -o loop=mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[06:17] <ubuntu> someone her
[06:17] <beg1689> how can i check how much free space i have on a drive?
[06:17] <Pollywog> beg1689: df -h  ?
[06:17] <ardchoille> ubuntu: What type is it? CD?
[06:17] <ubuntu> ardchoille: it is mfd
[06:17] <ubuntu> ardchoille: it is mdf
[06:18] <ubuntu> ardchoille: it is in mfd image
[06:18] <ardchoille> ubuntu: That doesn't tell me the file system type
[06:18] <ubuntu> ardchoille: what????
[06:18] <ubuntu> ardchoille: it is like iso but it is not.
[06:18] <OldGeezer> Beg1689 you can click on system, administration, system monitor file system tab
[06:18] <ardchoille> ubuntu: ext2? ext3? vfat? iso9660?
[06:18] <Gabz> ctrl_x: basically you have to make a parting to install windows on
[06:18] <ubuntu> ardchoille: ?????? that is like iso image
[06:19] <ardchoille> ubuntu: try:  sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 imagen.mdf /path/to/mountpoint
[06:19] <ubuntu> ardchoille: can you tell me how to mount mdf image in cdrom
[06:20] <ardchoille> ubuntu: try:  sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 imagen.mdf /path/to/mountpoint
[06:21] <ubuntu> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[06:21] <ubuntu>        missing codepage or other error
[06:21] <ubuntu>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[06:21] <ubuntu>        dmesg | tail  or so
[06:21] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Ok, you need to find out the file system type for that image
[06:21] <ubuntu> ardchoille: ???? this mount imagen.mdf /path/mount_directory -o loop=/dev/loop0  yestarday work
[06:21] <ubuntu> ardchoille: this command mount imagen.mdf /path/mount_directory -o loop=/dev/loop0 was working yestarday
[06:21] <tombow> hm pirates of silicon valley is on google video
[06:22] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Did you use sudo with it yesterday?
[06:22] <ubuntu> ardchoille: yes
[06:22] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Are you using sudo now?
[06:22] <Sonic_13> how do I add files to the apache folder?
[06:23] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: sudo cp files /var/www
[06:23] <ubuntu> ardchoille: yes
[06:23] <adjioev> can change /var/www to some other directory?
[06:23] <odix> whats the best way to repartition my hd? ntfs even..ubuntu live cd ?
[06:23] <Sonic_13> just sudo cp files /var/www ?
[06:24] <ardchoille> adjioev: Yes, you can, that would be edited in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf I believe
[06:24] <bwlang> adjioev: yes, you must reconfigure apache to tell it where to look for your files though.
[06:24] <Klonoa> odix: If you have windows, get Symantec Partition Magic 8.0
[06:24] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: sudo cp name-of-file-here /var/www
[06:24] <ubuntu> gparted
[06:24] <Sonic_13> ah
[06:24] <ubuntu> is like partition magic
[06:24] <jbwan> gparted is my friend
[06:24] <ubuntu> ok
[06:24] <odix> free software
[06:24] <adjioev> how do you wisper? sorry for stupid question...
[06:25] <Sonic_13> sweet!
[06:25] <Klonoa> /q *name*
[06:25] <Sonic_13> thanks
[06:25] <Klonoa> or
[06:25] <odix> i tried all of them, they say i have to unmount my ntfs partition..which i do..and they give me errors about fixing ntfs volumes before attempting to partition
[06:25] <Klonoa> /notice *name*
[06:25] <odix> will gparted does
[06:25] <bruenig> adjioev, wisper?
[06:26] <rik_> IcemanV9: OK, we've got the win32codecs installed, although it didn't help the problem we were told it would fix. Thanks for your help.
[06:27] <bruenig> rik_, what is the problem
[06:28] <el_isma> Hello, I'm running out of HD space... But I haven't been installing or downloading anything. Where's my space going?
[06:28] <odix> pr0n
[06:28] <bruenig> el_isma, you must have been doing something
[06:28] <odix> it happens to me too
[06:29] <el_isma> I just cleaned /var and ran apt-get clean
[06:29] <el_isma> and still, only 400Mb left
[06:29] <bwlang> el_isma: you could have some runaway file putting stuff in /tmp
[06:29] <Klonoa> You might have a virus of some sort
[06:29] <bruenig> el_isma, you can clean everything out of the apt cache
[06:29] <Klonoa> A trojan, perhaps?
[06:29] <bwlang> el_isma: use the du -s command to help you find the culprit
[06:29] <OldGeezer> el_isma check your system monitor see what is running
[06:29] <bruenig> oh I guess that is what clean does
[06:30] <kaushal> which i pasted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10316/
[06:30] <Veinor> OK, for some reason I can't use gparted to resize my windows partition
[06:30] <bruenig> Veinor, is it mounted
[06:30] <el_isma> nope, tmp seems clean
[06:30] <el_isma> (15Mb)
[06:30] <el_isma> and I can't spot any weird program running
[06:31] <kalorin> do you have the rootkit stuff installed?
[06:31] <kalorin> might want to give that a run
[06:31] <Veinor> bruenig: How can I tell?
[06:31] <OldGeezer> did you check your swap file size?
[06:31] <ubuntu> ok
[06:31] <bruenig> Veinor, um right click on the partition in gparted, does it give you the option to unmount
[06:31] <el_isma> It's set at 256Mb, fixed, since several months ago
[06:31] <Veinor> it's not mounted.
[06:32] <rik_> bruenig: We've been trying to play some videos, and would like to use only VLC. So far some formats will play in VLC, some using Totem, and some not at all.
[06:32] <jeisma> i get this error: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:32] <bruenig> Veinor, why isn't it mounted, what use is it if it isn't mounted
[06:32] <bruenig> jeisma, close synaptic try again
[06:32] <jeisma> ardchoille you still in here?
[06:32] <Veinor> I'm trying to re-install Ubuntu
[06:32] <nalioth> jeisma: make sure you're not running more than one instance of a package manager
[06:32] <jeisma> bruenig its not open
[06:32] <odix> install all plugins for vlc
[06:32] <ardchoille> jeisma: Yes
[06:32] <jeisma> i just restarted ubuntu
[06:32] <odix> imo vlc out does mplayer n e day
[06:32] <jeisma> ardchoille i tried running dist-upgrade, and it didn't do anything
[06:33] <jeisma> ardchoille: i got 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:33] <Veinor> OK, apparently it's because my windows partition is borked.
[06:33] <Veinor> I can't even boot into it to fix it...
[06:33] <ardchoille> jeisma: lsb_release -a | grep Release
[06:34] <Veinor> I'm going to try the recovery partition options.
[06:34] <bruenig> Veinor, format it
[06:34] <jbwan> anyone running fluxbox on ubuntu regularly?
[06:34] <jeisma> No LSB modules are available.
[06:34] <jeisma> Release:        6.06
[06:35] <ardchoille> jeisma: uname -r
[06:35] <bruenig> !fluxbox
[06:35] <t33> can anyone help me with a bash problem?
[06:35] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:35] <bruenig> !anyone | t33
[06:35] <ubotu> t33: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:35] <jbwan> bruenig: I know what it is :)
[06:35] <ardchoille> t33: It would help for us to know what kind of bash problem
[06:35] <bruenig> jbwan, right but maybe that link could answer your question
[06:35] <t33> ok
[06:35] <Sonic_13> how do I set up for NFS?
[06:35] <kalorin> !nfsa
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfsa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <kalorin> !nfs
[06:36] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:36] <t33> how do i execute one command and then another on one line?
[06:36] <jbwan> I'm wondering if I should be running Xubuntu or Ubuntu will work fine
[06:36] <Sonic_13> thanks ubotu
[06:36] <jbwan> and... if ya like how it runs
[06:36] <ardchoille> t33: problem with a bash script? Is bash not working? is it killing your dog?
[06:36] <odix> i got my slack up on a ntfs drive ;] 
[06:36] <kalorin> Sonic_13, ubuntu is a bot dude
[06:36] <ardchoille> t33: command1 && command2
[06:36] <rik_> t33: &&
[06:36] <odix> so let him thank the bot ;p
[06:36] <kalorin> sure
[06:36] <odix> !ubuntu Sonic_13
[06:36] <kalorin> scroll away
[06:36] <bruenig> t33, use can do command && other command which will execute the other command if the first one works or command ; other command which will execute the other command regardless of if the first command works
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu sonic_13 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <odix> ahh
[06:37] <kaushal> :-/
[06:37] <bruenig> !thanks | Sonic_13
[06:37] <ubotu> Sonic_13: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:37] <jeisma> ardchoille
[06:37] <jeisma> jeisma@jeisma-laptop:~$ uname -r
[06:37] <jeisma> 2.6.15-28-386
[06:37] <odix> whatver ;p
[06:37] <ubuntu> cedega
[06:37] <ardchoille> jeisma: Now that's more like it :)
[06:38] <odix> question fof topic..do i need an mpg to create a vcd or can i use an xvid avi
[06:38] <Joshooa> How do I get my 2nd hard drive blank and formatted to hdb and mounted on boot so I can use it again?
[06:38] <ardchoille> jeisma: That is a different kernel than the onw you said you were running ealier
[06:38] <odix> run a partition util
[06:38] <kalorin> odix well you should be able to convert anything from 1 to the other
[06:38] <odix> and mount it manually ?
[06:38] <ardchoille> t33: You might wanna have a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:38] <kalorin> not sure though with regards to a vcd and what format the video is actually in
[06:38] <Klonoa> Ok, I have 2 computers. One which has a dvd drive (I burned the dvd 6.10) and another computer which has neither a cd or dvd drive. I don't have any crossover ethernet cables but I do have a Firewire cable. Can I install Ubuntu on the second machine?
[06:38] <odix> or add a sh for startup to mount it
[06:38] <odix> thanks kalor
[06:38] <jeisma> ardchoille oh ok do you know how i install this kernel source?
[06:38] <jeisma> and fix my problem?
[06:39] <Klonoa> *Using the firewire cable
[06:39] <ardchoille> jeisma: No, I have never messed with kernel source
[06:39] <odix> take out the drive and put it in the other one ;p
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:39] <Klonoa> :P That's not much of an option
[06:39] <odix> or run the ide cable to the other ?
[06:39] <t33> i'm trying to create a new session that can be logged into at the login screen. I want to load xterm (which is working) and then start wine with a game all without a window manager
[06:39] <Klonoa> It's a laptop
[06:39] <Klonoa> It doesn't have IDE
[06:39] <t33> can anyone help?
[06:39] <odix> hmm
[06:40] <Klonoa> The one with the dvd drive is a laptop anyway
[06:40] <odix> usb ?
[06:40] <odix> that would be my best bet
[06:40] <Klonoa> Erm
[06:40] <Marupa> is there any sort of utility/script to run through a bunch of MP3s and weed out bad/corrupt ones?
[06:41] <Klonoa> I don't have a usb cable like that :P
[06:41] <odix> flashdrive
[06:41] <Klonoa> I'm not asking for other options
[06:41] <Klonoa> I'm asking if I can install through firewire
[06:41] <ardchoille> Marupa: What do you mean by "corrupt"?
[06:41] <Klonoa> or floppy
[06:42] <Marupa> it's just crap instead of music.
[06:42] <Marupa> I know I have a few of them.
[06:42] <Joshooa> !java
[06:42] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:43] <ardchoille> Marupa: You would need to have a app or script that can "listen" to the music and then you'd need to teach it what to listen for or what to flag on. I don't think anything like that exists.
[06:43] <Klonoa> So, can it be done? *installing through a firewire IEE 1394 network*
[06:43] <Marupa> mpg123 gives a lot of output when there's a corrupt file.
[06:43] <Marupa> I just don't want to have to go through all of my MP3s.  that'd take ages.
[06:43] <bruenig> I don't know there are some really intricate scripts that I have seen that open a file in mplayer and then from the determine things from it and do stuff with that
[06:44] <bruenig> from that*
[06:44] <Crescendo> How can I collapse a hierarchy of folders, removing all subfolders, and taking just the contents and putting it in the main directory?
[06:44] <ardchoille> bruenig: Really? Wow.. intelligent scripts.. who'da thunk
[06:44] <Marupa> script would be best, Crescendo.
[06:44] <bruenig> Marupa, if you can figure out some sort of pattern for what mpg123 spits out with the corrupt file, you could probably script it
[06:44] <Crescendo> Marupa, where would I start?
[06:44] <jeisma> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:44] <jeisma> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:44] <jeisma> anyone know how to fix that?
[06:45] <t33> prefixit with sudo
[06:45] <Klonoa> Can I install ubuntu through a firewire network?
[06:46] <bruenig> jeisma, it looks like a synaptic or update manager thing
[06:47] <ardchoille> jeisma: You need to run that with sudo
[06:47] <lisapc> what program can I use un Edgy to burn DVD and ISO etc?
[06:47] <rik_> t33: the #bashchannel is very helpful, and there is a good BASH manual online you can find with google. I forget where it was but easily found.
[06:47] <bruenig> lisapc, growisofs
[06:47] <lisapc> bruenig, is that GUI?
[06:47] <bruenig> lisapc, of course not
[06:47] <ardchoille> lisapc: I use gnomebaker for that, but others seem to have good luck with graveman or k3b
[06:47] <lisapc> bruenig, hehe
[06:47] <lisapc> ardchoille, ok ty
[06:47] <rik_> t33: should be a space between #bash and channel
[06:47] <t33> thanks rik
[06:48] <kalorin> lisapc, I like k3b
[06:48] <lisapc> ardchoille, foes gnombaker burn bootable ISO files?
[06:48] <bruenig> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/whatever=file.iso
[06:48] <ardchoille> bruenig: lisapc likes gui stuff :)
[06:48] <jeisma> jeisma@jeisma-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-source-2.6.15-28-386
[06:48] <jeisma> Reading package lists... Done
[06:48] <jeisma> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:48] <jeisma> E: Couldn't find package linux-kernel-source-2.6.15-28-386
[06:48] <jeisma> anyone know?
[06:48] <lisapc> i like gui :)
[06:48] <ardchoille> lisapc: Yes
[06:48] <kalorin> k3b is gui
[06:48] <binho_____info> algum be um progrm bom de ca ste web como o front page no ubuntu.em portugus?
[06:48] <kalorin> give it a whirl
[06:48] <kalorin> might be installed by default
[06:48] <rik_> t33: No problem, I'm continually needing help also.
[06:48] <bruenig> jeisma, I think it is just linux-source not linux-kernel-source
[06:49] <Klonoa> Alright then, how do I install Ubuntu onto a secondary hard drive (let's say it will be moved into it's own computer)
[06:49] <Klonoa> Without a cd, though :P
[06:50] <ardchoille> bruenig: is linux source the same thing as linux headers?
[06:50] <aedes> I'm using ubuntu server with a raid 5, but booting off straight hd, for some reason when I upgraded the linux-image-server package the new kernel .20-10 won't boot, but the old .20-9 boots fine
[06:50] <bruenig> ardchoille, no
[06:50] <aedes> has anyone had this problem?
[06:50] <bruenig> you have linux-source and linux-headers with the -uname -r hanging off the end of course
[06:51] <ardchoille> jeisma: I think linux-source-2.6.15 is what you want if you're looking for linux source
[06:52] <jeisma> archoidille E: Couldn't find package linux-kernel-source-2.6.15
[06:53] <ardchoille> jeisma: I think linux-source-2.6.15 is what you want if you're looking for linux source
[06:53] <bruenig> jeisma, do you need 15
[06:53] <ardchoille> jeisma: drop the 'kernel'
[06:53] <bruenig> !info linux-source-2.6.17
[06:53] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.17: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.17 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-11.35 (edgy), package size 44997 kB, installed size 45128 kB
[06:53] <bruenig> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[06:53] <ubotu> Package linux-source-2.6.15 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:53] <ardchoille> bruenig: jeisma is on Dapper
[06:53] <bruenig> !info linux-source-2.6.15 dapper
[06:54] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-28.51 (dapper), package size 43675 kB, installed size 43812 kB
[06:54] <bruenig> and so it does
[06:54] <digi_> I have a general linux/windows xp question. I have a duel boot system and an external drive that needs to be used for both linux and windows. What would be the best file system to use on the external drive?
[06:54] <bruenig> digi_, fat32
[06:54] <ardchoille> fat32
[06:55] <digi_> ok thanks
[06:55] <jeisma> archoidille i dont need that other numbers?
[06:55] <ardchoille> jeisma: It is in the repos as linux-source-2.6.15  and that is all
[06:56] <ardchoille> bruenig: I'm glad you're here. I learn quite a bit from you :)
[06:57] <bruenig> I learn so much from other people in here, this is pretty much where I learned everything
[06:57] <jeisma> archoidille i think it worked, thanks
[06:57] <ardchoille> same
[06:58] <mneptok> bruenig: fire is hot. do not eat.
[06:58] <ardchoille> jeisma: You're welcome :)
[06:58] <cables> I have a question: There's a driver for Windows to use Ext3 or Ext2 partitions. The only problem is that if Windows crashes, there could be corruption due to the driver's lack of journalling support. So why don't people use Ext3 as a shared partition? That way, at least one OS accessing it won't corrupt it.
[06:59] <mneptok> cables: any such corruption could be fixed with fsck_ext2
[06:59] <bruenig> cables, you said that windows could corrupt it, and then asked why people don't use it
[07:00] <cables> mneptok, that's not the problem
[07:00] <lisapc> whe I try to run gnomebaker from the icon it created, it says burning failed. cdrecord: Permission denied. Cannot open '/dev/sg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[07:00] <lisapc> what can I do?
[07:00] <lisapc> ardchoille, any ideas?
[07:00] <bruenig> lisapc, growisofs is always there
[07:00] <lisapc> bruenig, hehe
[07:00] <cables> bruenig, but *both OSs* can corrupt a Fat32 partition, right? Or is it journalled?
[07:01] <mneptok> lisapc: is sg0 actually your CD?
[07:01] <lisapc> how come gnomkaer doesnt give me persimssion?
[07:01] <lisapc> mneptok, not sure
[07:01] <Sonic_13> how do i access my ubuntu NFS from windows xp?
[07:01] <bruenig> cables, I am not a filesystem buff myself. I always used fat32 though before I cleaned windows mainly because I just figured native support is better than some third party driver.
[07:01] <preaction> Sonic_13: use samba instead?
[07:02] <lisapc> mneptok, thats my dvd burner
[07:02] <mneptok> cables: corruption can happen with journalling, it's just less likely. but if the corrupted bits are the journal bits, journalling ain't gonna save your bacon. :)
[07:02] <Sonic_13> what do you mean?
[07:02] <cables> bruenig, that makes sense
[07:02] <preaction> Sonic_13: NFS is one way to share files over a network, SMB (using samba) is another way
[07:02] <cables> mneptok, yes, but it makes it less likely, in the event of a hard shutdown.
[07:02] <Sonic_13> well how do i do it with NFS?
[07:02] <cables> !nfs
[07:02] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:03] <cables> !nfs | Sonic_13
[07:03] <ubotu> Sonic_13: please see above
[07:03] <mneptok> Sonic_13: Windows has no built in NFS support. use Samba.
[07:03] <bruenig> sg0 is one crazy device name for a dvd drive
[07:03] <Sonic_13> how do i set up samba then?
[07:03] <cables> !samba | Sonic_13
[07:03] <ubotu> Sonic_13: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:03] <shatrat> Sonic_13, microsoft made a windows NFS tool I think, but its aimed at trying to get enterprises to keep from dumping windows completely, Im not sure where you would get it from.
[07:03] <Sonic_13> ok
[07:04] <Sonic_13> thanks
[07:04] <lisapc> gnomebaker keeps saying: Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second.
[07:04] <mneptok> Sonic_13: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install samba
[07:04] <preaction> Sonic_13: mskb article on NFS client: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055
[07:04] <lisapc> do I have to run gnombaker as sudo?
[07:04] <bruenig> lisapc, you shouldn't have to
[07:04] <lisapc> bruenig, well it says Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)
[07:04] <mneptok> lisapc: no. are you *sure* the DVD is sg0. i have my doubts
[07:04] <Sonic_13> thanks
[07:04] <bruenig> lisapc, try the growisofs command and if it complains, then you know that it is a system issue not a gnomebaker issue.
[07:04] <bruenig> sg0 sounds wrong it really does
[07:04] <odbyaunome> hey anyone want to help me for a sec?
[07:04] <cables> !ask
[07:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:04] <bruenig> lisapc, here do this: cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom
[07:05] <lisapc> all i did was install gnombaker and it picked up my DVD burner
[07:05] <lisapc> bruenig, ok brb
[07:05] <lisapc> bruenig, /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:05] <bruenig> lisapc, yeah so it is /dev/scd0
[07:05] <alonea> Anyone have any ideas why this isn't installing?
[07:05] <alonea> http://pastebin.ca/394315
[07:05] <lisapc> bruenig, where do I tell gnomebaker that?
[07:05] <odbyaunome> Im trying to install my scanner driver and im stuck while trying to umount /proc/bus/usb
[07:05] <bruenig> lisapc, I don't use gnomebaker
[07:06] <bruenig> lisapc, probably in one of those menus at the top
[07:06] <preaction> odbyaunome: why do you have to mount your scanner?
[07:06] <lisapc> bruenig, ok
[07:06] <cables> lisapc, Edit>Preferences then the Devices tab
[07:06] <odbyaunome> just waht the tut says to do from their website
[07:06] <Sonic_13> is there a way to uninstall something or does it not really matter?
[07:06] <cables> Sonic_13, uninstall what?
[07:07] <preaction> Sonic_13: apt-get remove <package>
[07:07] <Sonic_13> nfs
[07:07] <Sonic_13> ok
[07:07] <cables> Sonic_13, use aptitude, it'll remove the dependencies as well
[07:07] <preaction> Sonic_13: but it doesn't really matter
[07:07] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: Are you on Edgy?
[07:07] <cables> wait, does apt-get autoremove do the same thing as aptitude remove?
[07:07] <Sonic_13> yes
[07:07] <cables> ok
[07:07] <bruenig> cables, yes
[07:08] <ardchoille> Sonic_13: The version of apt-get in Edgy has a new option --auto-remove, it removes unused deps
[07:08] <roachclit> Hey does anyone know how to fix screen resolution on Ubuntu?  It only gives me two options for screen resolution fir 800 x 600 but my monitor can handle alot more then that.
[07:08] <Sonic_13> ok
[07:08] <geoaxis> nalioth:  I would likt to have an unaffiliated cloak
[07:08] <odbyaunome> preaction heres a link, im at the bottom of the page
[07:08] <bruenig> or just apt-get autoremove will do it no need for dashes
[07:08] <odbyaunome> http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/sane_install.html#2
[07:08] <cables> but it's faster to just type sudo aptitude
[07:08] <bruenig> sudo aptitude remove vs. sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:08] <bruenig> what is that 3 characters
[07:08] <cables> good point
[07:08] <ardchoille> bruenig: Ah, cool. too bad the version of apt-get in Dapper doesn't have that option.
[07:08] <cables> i thought it was sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove
[07:09] <cables> bruenig ^^
[07:09] <Ghetek> hey does anybody know of a good billing/accounting system that i can get from repos that will handle my small business accounting?
[07:09] <digi_> what program would you use to format a drive in ubuntu?
[07:09] <mneptok> Ghetek: GNUcash?
[07:09] <bruenig> digi_, gparted
[07:09] <Ghetek> digi_, i suggest qtparted
[07:09] <bruenig> !info gnucash
[07:09] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.1-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2014 kB, installed size 6388 kB
[07:09] <preaction> odbyaunome: and what's the error you get?
[07:09] <cables> digi_, gparted if on gnome, qtparted on kde
[07:09] <digi_> gparted gives me errors
[07:10] <Ghetek> mneptok, is that a personal or small business program?
[07:10] <cables> digi_, aren't they on the same backend?
[07:10] <crdlb> digi_, specifically?
[07:10] <Pollywog> qtparted works better for me
[07:10] <ardchoille> digi_: What are the errors?
[07:10] <bruenig> I thought qt and g parted were the same thing
[07:10] <digi_> gimme a sec
[07:10] <mneptok> Ghetek: double entry accounting
[07:10] <cables> bruenig, g = gnome, qt = qt (KDE)
[07:10] <odbyaunome> preaction i cant umount /proc/bus/usb device is busy, and it says it twice
[07:10] <bruenig> well yeah, but I mean fundamentally the same
[07:10] <ardchoille> bruenig: gparted = gnome ui, qtparted = kde ui
[07:10] <brad_> Does anyone know why my 1680x1050 resolution LCD wont display anything higher then 1600x1200
[07:10] <Pollywog> yes almost the same thing
[07:10] <Flannel> parted = CLI
[07:10] <ardchoille> bruenig: Yeah
[07:11] <cables> but they're all frontends to the same parted, right?
[07:11] <roachclit> I have the sam eproblem Brad_ but mine only let's me go to 800x 600
[07:11] <digi_> Warning: Unable to open /dev/hdc read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/hdc has been opened read-only.
[07:11] <digi_> Error: Unable to open /dev/hdc - unrecognised disk label.
[07:11] <mneptok> digi_: man parted
[07:11] <preaction> odbyaunome: probably because something is using USB. you shouldn't have to do that umount and the mount at all. try the mknod and see?
[07:11] <bruenig> digi_, make sure it isn't mounted
[07:11] <cables> Is there a way to move a partition AROUND another partition?
[07:11] <mneptok> digi_: learn the command line tool. it'll save you headaches.
[07:11] <odbyaunome> i have a bluetooth plugged in could that be it?
[07:12] <Flannel> cables: not without shuffling
[07:12] <Pollywog> cables: I tried that it didn't work
[07:12] <cables> Flannel, shuffling?
[07:12] <Pollywog> maybe I did something wrong
[07:12] <preaction> odbyaunome: bluetooth is wireless?
[07:12] <Flannel> cables: yeah, fancy manuevering.  And even then, it may not be, depending on how much freespace you have
[07:12] <cables> Flannel, got it
[07:12] <odbyaunome> yes its a usb type
[07:12] <lisapc> i still cant gnomebaker or k3b to use my DVD drive to burn.  It keeps wanting to look at sg0 or something and says permission denied.  any other ideas pls?
[07:12] <Pollywog> I use to do that with PM though, just not qtparted or gparted
[07:12] <preaction> odbyaunome: uh... no it's not?
[07:13] <Pollywog> PM=partitionmagic
[07:13] <preaction> odbyaunome: unless your motherboard is implementing it as such
[07:13] <cables> lisapc, did you change your gnomebaker settings to the right device?
[07:13] <bruenig> lisapc, growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/scd0=whatever.iso
[07:13] <cables> preaction, bluetooth is wireless, but not wi-fi
[07:13] <odbyaunome> ok i see what you mean,
[07:13] <bruenig> lisapc, just fill in the whatever.iso with the name of your file
[07:13] <odbyaunome> well it plugs into my usb port
[07:13] <Pollywog> lisapc: in K3B you need to run the setup program to fix that
[07:13] <lisapc> cables, it only shows 1 device, but it says its found it on: sr0
[07:14] <kalorin> lisa are you sudo'ing it?
[07:14] <preaction> odbyaunome: so you have a bluetooth receiver that is connected via USB
[07:14] <cables> kalorin, you shouldn't have to
[07:14] <preaction> odbyaunome: that's a USB device
[07:14] <kalorin> also under /media/cdrom there's a symlink that points to something you might need to change it
[07:14] <cables> lisapc, is that the device your burner is on?
[07:14] <odbyaunome> right i unplugged it and i get the same error
[07:14] <kalorin> lisapc it's not set to write a disk image is it?
[07:14] <preaction> odbyaunome: and i asked you to try the mknod anyway, since you shouldn't have to remount /proc/bus/usb
[07:15] <lisapc> kalorin, what?
[07:15] <kalorin> that'd write to someplace I'm sure, but I wouldn't think it'd be asking you to pick a device so much as a mounted file system area
[07:15] <lisapc> cables, yes
[07:15] <bruenig> lisapc, growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/scd0=whatever.iso
[07:15] <kaushal> Hi
[07:15] <kaushal> E:stunnel4 : sub process post-installation script returned error exit status 134
[07:15] <kaushal> while installing stunnel4 using synaptci
[07:15] <kaushal> synaptic
[07:15] <bruenig> lisapc, at least if that works you can make sure that it is an application thing and not a system thing because I know that is the command all those programs use (at least gnomebaker uses it I know)
[07:15] <lisapc> bruenig, when I typed cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom, it says: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:15] <cables> kaushal, can you run "sudo aptitude install stunnel4" and pastebin the output?
[07:16] <cables> !paste | kaushal
[07:16] <ubotu> kaushal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:16] <lisapc> bruenig, but i dont think its on /dev/scd0
[07:16] <jamison_> I am looking for a Dreanweaver like editor does anyone hae any recomendations
[07:16] <kaushal> sure
[07:16] <bruenig> lisapc, well it clearly is
[07:16] <cables> kaushal, i have to go now, but the output will be more useful to the people here
[07:16] <odbyaunome> ok preaction i didnt see where you said to mknod
[07:16] <digi_> umount did the trick
[07:16] <lisapc> bruenig, so ill try your commend then
[07:16] <odbyaunome> what options do i use
[07:16] <digi_> thanks for the help
[07:16] <bruenig> lisapc, fstab doesn't lie
[07:16] <lisapc> bruenig, but how do I first wipe the cd-rw?
[07:16] <bruenig> lisapc, you said it was a dvd
[07:17] <[PeRiL] > heya
[07:17] <lisapc> bruenig, its a DVD burner, but at current I want to wipe a cd-rw and burn an ISO unto it
[07:17] <bruenig> lisapc, is it a cd iso or a dvd iso that you are burning, there is a difference
[07:17] <[PeRiL] > is there anyone that can help me with running linux and xp?
[07:17] <lisapc> bruenig, im trying to wipe the cd-rw and gnomebaker wont allow me
[07:17] <cables> [PeRiL] , sure. What do you need?
[07:17] <lisapc> bruenig, i havent tried to birn the ISO yet
[07:18] <bruenig> lisapc, well I don't know anything about wiping stuff, all I have are cd-r
[07:18] <lisapc> bruenig, rofl
[07:18] <lisapc> :P
[07:18] <bruenig> lisapc, but if you just made a dvd movie which I know is what you were trying to do last time you came in here, you aren't going to be able to put that on a cd just to tip you off there
[07:18] <kaushal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10319/
[07:19] <[PeRiL] > hey cables...i have 2 hard drives, one has xp installed and all of my files from that, earlier today i installed linux on my second hard drive...only now im not sure how to boot to XP
[07:19] <EADG> Synaptic, Aptitude or Apt-get. Which one is the best?
[07:19] <bruenig> I don't move stuff around on cd's, I use flash drives, what do I need with cd-rw
[07:19] <lisapc> does anyone know how I can find out how to make gnomabaker and k3b to pick up my DVD burner?
[07:19] <cables> [PeRiL] , just the question I'm NOT prepared to answer.
[07:19] <ardchoille> bruenig: lol
[07:19] <bruenig> lisapc, you  mean cd burner
[07:19] <ardchoille> I like aptitude
[07:19] <cables> [PeRiL] , sorry... maybe come back when there are more people here
[07:20] <tyler_d> PeRiL: when you reboot you should have the option to load into windows....
[07:20] <kaushal> cables I have pasted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10319/
[07:20] <cables> bruenig, it's a DVD burner. They burn CD's you know :)
[07:20] <[PeRiL] > i expected that, but ive not :(
[07:20] <bruenig> well calling it a dvd burner is confusing
[07:20] <bruenig> to the supporters
[07:20] <tyler_d> PeRiL: if you don't then well... you messed up and need to run a repair on winxp
[07:20] <lisapc> bruenig, no! its a dual layer DVD buirner
[07:20] <[PeRiL] > ah, wicked
[07:20] <bruenig> it is both
[07:20] <[PeRiL] > thats probably it :)
[07:20] <bruenig> it is dvd/cd burner
[07:21] <[PeRiL] > cheers guys
[07:21] <cables> kaushal, I can't help you, but ask the question again when there are more people here and include this link.
[07:21] <ardchoille> [PeRiL] : You made a dual boot system? You should just be able to hit the ESC key during startup to get a grub menu that lists your ubuntu and xp installs
[07:21] <kaushal> ok
[07:21] <kaushal> Hi
[07:21] <kaushal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10319/
[07:21] <jamison_> I am looking for a Dreanweaver like editor does anyone hae any recomendations
[07:21] <cables> ardchoille, they're on 2 separate HDs
[07:21] <[PeRiL] > yeah, i saw the esc bit, but it didnt show xp
[07:21] <ardchoille> cables: Ah, ok
[07:21] <[PeRiL] > i'll have a look again though, there were a few options there
[07:21] <shane634> kaushal, what question?
[07:21] <tyler_d> PeRiL: well then your config is prolly that winxp was installed on the secondary ide....
[07:21] <Zues_62> hey guys this is Zues
[07:22] <tyler_d> PeRiL: windows likes being first....
[07:22] <kaushal> shane634 : I have pasted it here
[07:22] <kaushal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10319/
[07:22] <[PeRiL] > haha, can i change it?
[07:22] <bruenig> Zues_62, really what is your favorite number
[07:22] <st4hl> hi, how do i add user to sudoers group?
[07:22] <kalorin> jamison never used it sorry
[07:22] <Zues_62> i was just wondering if anyone knows of any plugins i can use for xmms music player that will allow me to stream Shoutcast
[07:22] <cables> !sudoers | st4hl
[07:22] <Zues_62> if so please reply
[07:22] <kalorin> I tend to just use vim
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <kalorin> <--- massochist
[07:22] <mneptok> jamison_: Amaya
[07:22] <cables> ah I guess not
[07:22] <st4hl> well that helped
[07:22] <bruenig> I know you can edit /etc/sudoers with "sudo visudo"
[07:22] <st4hl> grmm
[07:22] <bruenig> if that does anything
[07:23] <bruenig> only one user on my box
[07:23] <tyler_d> PeRiL: what I did was to just unplug my ide cables.... make windows first... then install...
[07:23] <Zues_62> does anyone know
[07:23] <st4hl> thanks guys :(
[07:23] <mneptok> bruenig: you can *only* edit sudoers with visudo
[07:23] <Flannel> [PeRiL] : you use "map" in GRUB to swap them virtually
[07:23] <bruenig> mneptok, or nano /etc/sudoers
[07:23] <mneptok> bruenig: no
[07:23] <bruenig> mneptok, yes
[07:23] <shane634> kaushal, sorry am of no help there
[07:23] <[PeRiL] > im really new to all this haha
[07:23] <cables> visudo
[07:23] <bruenig> mneptok, try it, it will work
[07:23] <[PeRiL] > i looked into grub
[07:23] <tyler_d> PeRiL: in other words.. .I made that mistake once... reconfigured and re-installed linux... never had to touch the windows side of things.
[07:23] <Flannel> [PeRiL] : "map (hd0) (hd1)\nmap (hd1) (hd0)"
[07:23] <mneptok> bruenig: cat /etc/sudoers
[07:23] <zero-9376> crap did anyone answer me? i keep gettin disconnected
[07:23] <kaushal> ok
[07:23] <Zues_62> ok
[07:23] <cables> mneptok, it will, but it's dangerous
[07:23] <[PeRiL] > hmm
[07:23] <bruenig> mneptok, I have done it, I know it can be done
[07:23] <[PeRiL] > i shall have a look about
[07:24] <Zues_62> does anyone one know any cool sights that have things u can do with Gnome
[07:24] <[PeRiL] > see what i find :)
[07:24] <Zues_62> like as in tricks
[07:24] <kaushal> Hi
[07:24] <[PeRiL] > cheers for the answers guys
[07:24] <Flannel> bruenig: just because you've done it, doesn't make it smart.  Please don't break other peoples boxes knowingly.
[07:24] <[PeRiL] > hopefully i wont speak to you soon :P
[07:24] <bruenig> !beryl | Zues_62
[07:24] <ubotu> Zues_62: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:24] <[PeRiL] > x
[07:24] <shane634> zero-9376, why the disconnect?
[07:24] <mneptok> bruenig: and i'm telling you that it is a bad idea, unsupported, and may well render your system unusable :)
[07:24] <Tanlaan> Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a PPC system that already has a dual boot of OS X and OS 9 without damaging either of the operating systems, and is there a way to reverse it later?
[07:24] <bruenig> Flannel, well I wasn't advocating it certainly
[07:24] <lisapc> wow that was easy. All I had to do was run k3b setup and click on apply.  thats it :)
[07:24] <zero-9376> no idea uni firewall most likely
[07:24] <zero-9376> or gaim? dunno
[07:24] <kaushal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10319/
[07:24] <bruenig> but I was corrected when I said that you can edit it with "sudo visudo" with the comment that that was the only way and of course that is incorrect
 lisapc: in K3B you need to run the setup program to fix that  <--- THis was the easy solution :) ty
[07:25] <cables> mneptok, the reason visudo is good is because it prevents you from creating an unparseable sudoers. Unparseable sudoers = big problems
[07:25] <shane634> zero-9376, not my bag sorry
[07:25] <kaushal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10319/
[07:25] <Zues_62> ok so does http://forum.beryl-project.org/  have cool tricks u can do with gnome
[07:25] <bruenig> Zues_62, yeah
[07:25] <Zues_62> i once saw a freind do something out of this world with gnome
[07:25] <lisapc> mneptok, all i had to do was run k3b setup and click on apply.  Dont know why, but that was it :P
[07:25] <Flannel> bruenig: by recommending it, you're effectively advocating it.  That's like randomly proclaiming random rm lines, and then getting angry when people kickban you.
[07:25] <Zues_62> he flippled the desktop round with his mouse LOL
[07:25] <bruenig> I was winning an argument nothing more
[07:25] <cables> Zues_62, that's what Beryl does :)
[07:25] <Tanlaan> Zues_62: he used XGL
[07:25] <lisapc> bruenig, u see it?
[07:26] <shane634> haha i only know wireless barely and vid cards
[07:26] <kaushal> Hi bruenig
[07:26] <tyler_d> beryl/xgl
[07:26] <cables> Zues_62, Compiz or Beryl, with AIGLX or XGL
[07:26] <bruenig> kaushal, I looked at your pastebin, I don't know
[07:26] <elijah> hi, how will i delete the profile created in evolution?
[07:26] <kaushal> ok
[07:26] <tyler_d> compiz is garbage
[07:26] <Zues_62> um what is berry?
[07:26] <tyler_d> beryl is nice
[07:26] <kaushal> so do i have to write to the mailing list
[07:26] <bruenig> Zues_62, well go to that link, it will tell you
[07:26] <cables> tyler_d, why, because they want a more stable system?
[07:26] <Zues_62> what does it do lol
[07:26] <Flannel> guys, take the compiz/beryl/etc discussion to #ubuntu-effects, thanks.
[07:26] <cables> !berry | Zues_62
[07:26] <mneptok> bruenig: hint: don't start arguments over Ubuntu best use scenarios with me. not to sound like an egomaniac, but when it comes to Ubuntu i'll usually win. ;)
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <Zues_62> i copyed the links
[07:27] <cables> Zues_62, you mean Beryl? 'Cause we know all about that :)
[07:27] <cables> !beryl | Zues_62
[07:27] <ubotu> Zues_62: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:27] <bruenig> mneptok, it wasn't a best use, I told him "hey you can edit it with sudo visudo" and you for no apparent reason told me that was THE ONLY way
[07:27] <tyler_d> cables: no... because my system isn't brand new, and you can't dual display with compiz on older cards
[07:27] <mneptok> bruenig: while you can *technically* edit sudoers with $editor it's not something you should even think about.
[07:27] <cables> Zues_62, if you're running Edgy, here's how to set it up: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[07:27] <Zues_62> oh ok so this site http://forum.beryl-project.org/  can help u wif cool tricks
[07:27] <bruenig> mneptok, why did you even say anything though
[07:27] <Flannel> bruenig: As far as this channel is concerned, it *is* the only way.
[07:27] <bruenig> I mean scroll up
[07:27] <cafuego_> mneptok: unless of you're you're me
[07:28] <kalorin> anyone think of a reason that NFS would hang for a while when mounting another machine?
[07:28] <ardchoille> Is it possible we can take the sudo/viduso argument to another channel please?
[07:28] <kalorin> anyone think of a reason to use NFS over samba?
[07:28] <cables> kalorin, it's less bow-down-to-microsoft-y
[07:28] <mneptok> bruenig: the reason i corrected you is that when people break Ubuntu and call Canonical screaming that Linux sucks and we broke their machine i have to pick up the phone. you don't. ;)
[07:28] <cafuego_> kalorin: multiple user/permissions support
[07:28] <bruenig> I didn't advocate anything else I didn't even mention anything else, it wasn't even insinuated as far as that guy knows, that is all that exists
[07:28] <kalorin> cables yeah but i have xp machines on the network that I have to use samba for anyway
[07:28] <cables> kalorin, then use samba
[07:29] <kalorin> cafuego, thats' what I was leaning towards
[07:29] <bruenig> it just seemed like a I am going to prove a point sort of thing for no reason, that is all. I am done
[07:29] <kalorin> permissions and stuff
[07:29] <cafuego_> kalorin: Yes, but NFS on XP is not your friend.
[07:29] <digdug> I have to use noapic to get my hp laptop to boot, which, from searching on google, appears to be relatively common; am I losing anything of any real benefit from this?
[07:29] <kalorin> seems to be waiting for a network timeout before it finishes mounting and I'm not sure why
[07:29] <kalorin> cafuego, no I have a linux server and a  linux workstation, then two XP laptops and the wifes XP box
[07:29] <kalorin> mixed environment
[07:29] <preaction> kalorin: i'd suggest samba
[07:29] <cables> kalorin, sounds like a job for samba
[07:29] <kalorin> gotta run samba for the laptops and wife
[07:30] <cafuego_> kalorin: Yeh, go samba (and cifs)
[07:30] <digi_> where do the folder in media come from? Some of them are in the fstab others are not
[07:30] <cables> kalorin, why not just use samba for it all?
[07:30] <kalorin> yeah it's been running samba forever
[07:30] <el_isma> I just ran xfs_check and found **6GB** of lost files :S What should I do?
[07:30] <cables> digi_, some are symlinks to things in fstab
[07:30] <kalorin> well that's what i was wondering, but I installed NFS and it seems to work fine for mounting the /home on the server for me
[07:30] <mneptok> digi_: they are autogenerated by hald on device detection
[07:30] <kalorin> just times out
[07:30] <nospi> hey
[07:30] <kalorin> but samba didn't seem to like my permissions stuff
[07:30] <cafuego_> kalorin: I have a setup like that and I;'ve just recently converted samba to use ldap, so I get single sign-on at home ;-)
[07:30] <kalorin> heh ldap is the devils tool! ;)
[07:31] <kalorin> what with all their trees and nodes and mess
[07:31] <kalorin> :)
[07:31] <cafuego_> trivially easy when using phpmydldap actually
[07:31] <tyler_d> so what has everyone here tried.... are you all tried and true to ubuntu through experience from other distro's or are you from the get-go ubuntu?
[07:31] <mneptok> ldap is absolutely fantastic. but only when compared to its competition. :/
[07:31] <shane634> tyler_d, ubuntu here man
[07:31] <cables> tyler_d, I'm a LInux noob... started out with ubuntu
[07:31] <bruenig> I have used slackware, fedora, suse, and gentoo
[07:32] <cafuego_> mneptok: yeah, after nis everything else rocks
[07:32] <cables> which is why we all listen to bruenig :)
[07:32] <tyler_d> tried anything else?
[07:32] <bruenig> well I don't know if you call what I did using gentoo more like failing miserably at it
[07:32] <victori_> hmm
[07:32] <cables> bruenig, most people who try gentoo fail miserably at it, and the rest are just pretending.
[07:32] <shane634> tyler_d, never tried any others this one works for me
[07:32] <victori_> with gparted can I reverse a shrink of  a partition?
[07:32] <EADG> I keep breaking my installs, so far ubuntu has lasted the longest.
[07:32] <cables> victori_, you can expand partitions...
[07:33] <cables> EADG, when I first got Ubuntu I broke all sorts of things. I reinstalled 4 times in the first month
[07:33] <victori_> different command?
[07:33] <victori_> instead of resize
[07:33] <shane634> cables, with ubuntu all is possible
[07:33] <digdug> victori_: not sure that you can do an automatic "undo", but you could just expand it to the size it was before
[07:33] <mneptok> my girlfriend won the "Gentoo, or a life?" internal debate.
[07:33] <cables> victori_, resize should do it...
[07:33] <victori_> says its not satisfied
[07:34] <tyler_d> mneptok, what?
[07:34] <EADG> I've learnt quit a bit by breaking stuff.
[07:34] <cables> Speaking of breaking stuff, nvidia-glx broke suspend and hibernate for me :(
[07:34] <mneptok> tyler_d: i'm rambling.
[07:34] <digi_> is there a way I can get info on where a file system is mounted from?
[07:34] <shane634> Victori_ what is satisfied?
[07:34] <nospi> EADG, the best way to learn is to try and fix the mistakes you have made :)
[07:34] <tyler_d> mneptok, alright then....
[07:35] <nospi> EADG, i ruined my dad's computer and had to fix it before he got home
[07:35] <EADG> nospi: i agree.
[07:35] <nospi> EADG, never learnt so much so fast
[07:35] <cables> I followed these directions but it made my system really unstable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:35] <cables> Does anyone have any ideas to help me?
[07:35] <victori_> gparted
[07:36] <shane634> cables, don't do that
[07:36] <cables> shane634, don't do what?
[07:36] <nospi> i want to learn a programming language
[07:36] <shane634> cables, follow that guide
[07:36] <nospi> i know a bit of C++ and C but not enough to make anything lol, i've forgotten it all
[07:36] <shane634> cables, which version you use?
[07:36] <nospi> so what's an easy first language?
[07:36] <nospi> python?
[07:36] <cables> shane634, I did, it worked but made things crashy, i undid it, everything went back to normal.
[07:36] <EADG> I'm really stoked on what can be done via cli... reminds me of the old Dos days, but OOhhh so much more powerful.
[07:36] <cables> shane634, edgy
[07:37] <Flannel> nospi: #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place for that question
[07:37] <icecruncher> nospi: c++
[07:37] <shane634> cables, you have it all updated?
[07:37] <nospi> Flannel, ok, sorry. thanks
[07:37] <yell0w> EADG, aren't you glad things are that way ?
[07:37] <cables> shane634, yep... tried this on Edgy AND Dapper
[07:37] <yell0w> =))
[07:37] <nospi> icecruncher, i get bored easily lol, not much motivation, so i might try an easier one first. or is that the besT?
[07:37] <nospi> icecruncher, i know there is no "best" language. i'll move to offtopic to discuss it from now on
[07:38] <shane634> cables, seems odd a config problem no doubt.. not my field
[07:38] <EADG> yell0w: You bet.
[07:38] <icecruncher> nospi: kk
[07:38] <shane634> cables, sorry man
[07:38] <cables> shane634, hardware issue i guess... but it seems like a somewhat common problem, I mean there's actually a guide for how to fix it. But the fix sorta breaks everything else...
[07:39] <shane634> cables, link me that guide please and i'll have a look
[07:39] <june_> where does evolution keep server/user account data?  i had to reformat, and i backed up my .evolution folder, but when i started up evolution (after putting it in place) nothing carried over
[07:39] <kaushal> cables : whats the option to run memtest
[07:39] <kalorin> way past bedtime
[07:39] <cables> shane634, hold on a sec
[07:39] <kalorin> nighty
[07:40] <kaushal> on my box
[07:40] <cables> shane634, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:40] <ardchoille> june_: ~/.gconf/apps/evolution
[07:41] <roachclit> anyone know what to enter in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to add more screen resolutions?
[07:41] <xenex> !uset autoinvite 1
[07:41] <shane634> cables, what is not working with this?
[07:42] <june_> ardchoille: thanks, i think i copied that one over though... (honestly, i just backed up the entire home directory)  if it makese a difference i reformatted with fiesty, so it was probably a new version of evolution...
[07:42] <cables> shane634, after nvidia-glx was set up, it wouldn't come out of suspend or hibernate. After following this guide, suspend/hibernate works fine, but the system randomly locks up.
[07:42] <ardchoille> roachclit: A better way to do that is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:43] <shane634> cables, are all settings changed in xorg?
[07:43] <cables> shane634, I followed the guide completely
[07:43] <ardchoille> june_: Yeah, I always start with fresh configs when using a new Ubuntu release.
[07:43] <cables> shane634, I tried this a long time ago... I've tried it like every month, hopeful it'll work this time :)
[07:43] <jesusphreak> so can I just throw a live CD into my Macbook and install Ubuntu or do I need to have Boot Camp installed?
[07:44] <shane634> cables, hang on we may need a new route man
[07:44] <cables> shane634, what sort of route?
[07:44] <shane634> cables, what exactly are the symptoms?
[07:45] <cables> shane634, I'm going about my Ubuntu-using day, and suddenly the system will just freeze... can't move the mouse, and I don't think I could switch to a vtty
[07:45] <cables> shane634, it would happen about 5 minutes after bootup
[07:45] <shane634> cables, and did you email the guy on that link?
[07:45] <june_> ardchoille: that's too bad, i had to pull a lot of teeth to get the pop server from my ISP
[07:45] <Ramattack> hi everybody
[07:45] <cables> shane634, yep, he said to "play with the NvAGP settings", but I'm not sure how to play with them...
[07:45] <Ramattack> I'm net at ubuntu....
[07:46] <shane634> cables, now we have progress lol
[07:46] <shane634> cables, hang on man
[07:46] <Ramattack> come from debian... and was wondering wich versions are stable, testing... or....
[07:46] <Ramattack> what about kubuntu and those other distros ubuntu like
[07:46] <ardchoille> june_: If that's the case, you should send them a nasty-gram cuz they should provide that info to you.
[07:46] <yell0w> !edgy
[07:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[07:46] <cables> Ramattack, they're all stable
[07:47] <cables> Ramattack, all Ubuntu variants (Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu) have the same versioning system.
[07:47] <shane634> cables, you on a messenger?
[07:47] <cables> shane634, MSN?
[07:47] <cables> shane634, sure, why?
[07:47] <Ramattack> and edgy, dapper and those all?
[07:47] <june_> ardchoille: we're finally switching ISPs
[07:48] <anthonymcuozzo> hello!
[07:48] <cables> Ramattack, Dapper is LTS (supported for 3 years) and Edgy is stable
[07:48] <shane634> cables, shane47143@hotmail.com then
[07:48] <ardchoille> june_: Sounds like you needed it :)
[07:48] <anthonymcuozzo> can anyone read what i am writing?
[07:48] <cables> Ramattack, 6 month release cycle (Feisty is due in April)
[07:48] <cables> anthonymcuozzo, nope
[07:48] <anthonymcuozzo> ha, thanks cables :)
[07:48] <shane634> cables, let me know when you sign on
[07:48] <june_> my God, barely working DSL? yes haha, earthlink, for the record
[07:48] <cables> shane634, how come? Why not pm in IRC?
[07:48] <anthonymcuozzo> does anyone like Window Maker?
[07:48] <Ramattack> what is lts?
[07:49] <cables> !lts | Ramattack
[07:49] <ubotu> Ramattack: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[07:49] <shane634> cables, i can't pm here for some reason though i come to help still lol
[07:49] <cables> !register | shane634
[07:49] <ubotu> shane634: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:49] <cables> shane634, I just added you
[07:49] <Ramattack> but you say paying?
[07:50] <camero1> hi
[07:50] <cables> Ramattack, most people don't
[07:50] <cables> Ramattack, the only thing you have to pay for is commercial support
[07:50] <camero1> anybody have a link for flash/ java/ etc for ubuntu?
[07:50] <cables> !flash | camero1
[07:50] <ubotu> camero1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:50] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:50] <cables> !java | camero1
[07:50] <ubotu> camero1: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:50] <anthonymcuozzo> how do i reset the menubar in xchat?
[07:50] <shane634> ubotu, thank you very much i will check it if and when we get cables hooked up lol
[07:50] <camero1> thx gentlemen
[07:51] <odbyaunome> how do i know which version ubuntu I have?
[07:51] <Ramattack> so what's the difference on lts and  edgy for example?
[07:51] <anthonymcuozzo> ok got i
[07:51] <anthonymcuozzo> it*
[07:51] <cables> Ramattack, LTS might be a liiitle bit more stable, and commercial support and updates are offered for longer
[07:51] <digi_> where is the file located that has info on the /media folder
[07:51] <odbyaunome> can anyone help me?
[07:52] <yell0w> odbyaunome,  uname -a
[07:52] <Ramattack> and you can get too kubuntu edgy?
[07:52] <odbyaunome> thanks
[07:52] <Ramattack> or kubuntu is kubuntu?
[07:52] <fleur> exit
[07:52] <cables> Ramattack, Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE installed
[07:52] <cables> Ramattack, Xubuntu is XFCE and Edubuntu has educational software
[07:53] <odbyaunome> yell0w, is there any way of telling which version ubuntu, like edgy dapper
[07:53] <cables> !version
[07:53] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[07:53] <Ramattack> and installing edgy directly you could ins stall by you're self kde and beryl and those all packageI suppose
[07:53] <odbyaunome> thanks
[07:53] <cables> !version | odbyaunome
[07:53] <Ramattack> isn't it?
[07:53] <ubotu> odbyaunome: please see above
[07:53] <anthonymcuozzo> http://www.google.com/
[07:53] <odbyaunome> thanks ubotu
[07:53] <anthonymcuozzo> brb
[07:53] <arrummzen> How can I change the message that gets printed when someone logs into my Ubuntu host?
[07:53] <cables> Ramattack, yep. Just install the kubuntu-desktop package for kubuntu, xubuntu-desktop for xubuntu, etc.
[07:54] <ardchoille> arrummzen: I believe it is /etc/motd
[07:54] <Ramattack> but I suppose using Ubuntu you learn less than using debian sid...
[07:54] <arrummzen> yep, that is it =P
[07:56] <jimd3299> hi there, what directory(ies) can I see a listing of all applications installed by default on ubuntu?  Is it /usr/share/applications? or are there others?  I'm looking to see if "amule" is installed by default as I don't see it in that directory.
[07:56] <ardchoille> jimd3299: apt-cache policy amule
[07:56] <cables> jimd3299, it's not
[07:56] <Checkk1> how do i remove old linux kernels after ive updated?
[07:56] <cables> jimd3299, you can install it with sudo aptitude install amule
[07:56] <Flannel> Checkk1: remove them through your package manager
[07:57] <june_> i've got an hp deskjet 5150, and there seems to be a cups driver, but the test page refuses to print...  Any ideas what might be up?
[07:57] <camero1> do you guys reccommend installing th auto updates in ubuntu?
[07:57] <ardchoille> Flannel: If you remove a kernel via the pm, does that update /boot/grub/menu.lst as well?
[07:57] <jimd3299> mostly just want to get a handle on what is installed before putting more stuff on (kind of like moving into a new place.)  I'm assuming apt-cache policy "appname" only checks for things rather than installing them right?
[07:57] <Matthai> hi, anyone knows what is going on with automatix?
[07:57] <Flannel> ardchoille: yep
[07:57] <ardchoille> Cool
[07:57] <Flannel> !automatix | Matthai
[07:57] <ubotu> Matthai: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:58] <Checkk1> how can i tell which kernel to remove? and which specific files?
[07:58] <Flannel> Checkk1: linux-image-[versionnumbers] 
[07:58] <Flannel> Checkk1: if you want, open up /boot/grub/menu.lst and check the old version numbers
[07:58] <Checkk1> ok thanks
[07:58] <Flannel> Checkk1: it's also usually smart to keep two kernels.  The new one, and your last working one.  Just incase the new one has a bug later
[07:59] <Flannel> some obscure "if you insert a USB device while the moon is full on the first thursday of the month, I'm crashing" bug
[07:59] <EADG> how big is a kernal... approx.
[08:00] <Checkk1> ok
[08:00] <Gerrial> I could use some help tonight. I was setting up a LAMP server on Ubuntu 6.10 and I deleted my /etc/mysql directory. I've tried removing and reinstalling the mysql-server, mysql-client and libmysqlclient15-dev packages. Not luck in getting /etc/mysql back. Any suggestions?
[08:00] <cables> !register > shane634
[08:00] <Flannel> EADG: ~10 MB
[08:01] <EADG> Flannel: Dunke
[08:03] <Derek> Hey
[08:03] <Checkk1> whats the difference between 'Removal' and 'Complete Removal'?
[08:03] <kakkoi> hello
[08:03] <kakkoi> i'm new here
[08:03] <Flannel> Checkk1: complete removes all config files as well. Probably what you want
[08:04] <kakkoi> have a question regarding Beryl
[08:04] <Derek> hehe, me too
[08:04] <Flannel> Checkk1: it's equivalent to --purge in apt-get, if that means anything to you
[08:04] <kakkoi> can anyone help
[08:04] <Flannel> kakkoi: #ubuntu-effects for Beryl support, thanks
[08:04] <Checkk1> yeah it does :)
[08:04] <kakkoi> thanx Flannel
[08:04] <edwards> ada yg dr indo gak?
[08:05] <Checkk1> if this kernel is the old kernel, it shouldnt affect anything right?
[08:05] <Flannel> Checkk1: correct
[08:05] <ardchoille> Checkk1: Just my opinion, but I recommend keeping the current and the previous kernels.. just in case.
[08:06] <Checkk1> well the thing is, the old kernel isnt going to be very useful since its straight out of the box
[08:06] <Checkk1> i didnt change anything till i upgraded
[08:06] <Derek> If I'm looking to learn how to use a server, and build a website, should i get Ubuntu server or Ubuntu desktop
[08:06] <Flannel> Checkk1: well, the old kernel works, you know that.
[08:06] <Flannel> Derek: you going to use a GUI on the box?
[08:07] <kakkoi> hmm..
[08:07] <kakkoi> no one in #ubuntu-effects
[08:07] <Flannel> kakkoi: try #beryl then
[08:07] <kakkoi> can i ask beryl related question here instead
[08:07] <kakkoi> just a quick answer
[08:08] <Derek> I was told WinXp slimmed down using nliteos customized with tweakui could also be a good choice
[08:08] <kakkoi> pleaseeeee..?
[08:08] <Checkk1> hmm, does the Orphan filter work in ubuntu nowadays?
[08:08] <Flannel> kakkoi: you can go ahead and ask, but I don't know if anyone here will know
[08:08] <arooni> hey folks... whenever my laptop hibernates my synaptic touchpad loses the ability to do veritcal scroll.. (i have to restart x) ... is there a way around this?  thanks!
[08:08] <Flannel> Derek: You going to run a GUI or not?
[08:08] <kakkoi> okay
[08:08] <kakkoi> here it goes
[08:08] <Flannel> Derek: Is it 'just' a server? or are you going to use it as your normal desktop machine as well?
[08:09] <kakkoi> can i use/installed beryl on ubuntu edgy-eft server edition?
[08:09] <Flannel> kakkoi: yeah
[08:09] <Derek> I have a laptop for my normal machine
[08:09] <SI65> hello
[08:09] <Flannel> Derek: I'd grab the server then.  If you're comfortable with the command line.
[08:09] <Flannel> Derek: server CD has a LAMP preinstall option as well
[08:10] <SI65> does anyone know how to fix the can't access tty problem?
[08:10] <Flannel> kakkoi: You'll obviously need to install a GUI to be able to use beryl, but Ubuntu is ubuntu.  There is no difference in "server" and "desktop" versions, except the packages that are installed.
[08:11] <Brummbaer> hi
[08:11] <Derek> does /w whipser someone? (Sorry for the noob questions, first time user of IRC)
[08:12] <peche> somebody speak espaol?
[08:12] <Flannel> Derek: queries (private messages, whispers, etc) don't work from unregistered users
[08:12] <Flannel> !es | peche
[08:12] <ubotu> peche: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:12] <mneptok> Derek: /msg
[08:14] <arooni> hey folks... whenever my laptop hibernates my synaptic touchpad loses the ability to do veritcal scroll.. (i have to restart x) ... is there a way around this?  thanks!
[08:15] <Derek> did you check for firmware updates?
[08:19] <derek_> Hi
[08:19] <shane634_> Akuma_, sorry man i am back
[08:19] <derek_> There are so many .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives  . Can I delete them?
[08:20] <cables> derek_, I believe so... I have been doing that a lot, and nothing bad ever happened
[08:20] <ardchoille> derek_: Yes, type: sudo apt-get clean
[08:21] <cables> ardchoille, I didn't know that existed... I've been doing "rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb"
[08:21] <edwards> !ping me
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <ardchoille> cables: lol
[08:21] <derek_> ardchoille, cables ok
[08:21] <derek_> Thanks :-)
[08:21] <derek_> Also
[08:22] <Derek> !ping me
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <derek_> what is the way to list the real size of a directory?
[08:22] <H264> Hi
[08:22] <ismael_> derek_  man du
[08:22] <H264> I'm trying to duel boot Ubuntu 64 bit on my iMac
[08:23] <derek_> ok
[08:23] <cables> H264, duel boot? You don't want your OS's to fight...
[08:23] <H264> and am not finding much on the subject...
[08:23] <cables> H264, sorry 'bout the bad pun
[08:23] <mneptok> H264: Intel iMac?
[08:23] <H264> yeah
[08:23] <derek_> Thanks
[08:23] <H264> cables: no worrys :)
[08:23] <thiesen> ami
[08:24] <thiesen> oooops... sorry
[08:24] <mneptok> H264: you'll need Boot Camp and rEFIt
[08:24] <chuck`_> Is there a good online resource for themes/interfaces for ubuntu (a la win32 programs like WindowBlinds or ThemeXP)?  i want a more "slick" look to my OS and I don't know where to start
[08:24] <H264> did that...
[08:24] <wangyao> test
[08:25] <mneptok> chuck`_: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install gnome-art
[08:25] <H264> there was a good 32 bit tutorial for a macbook...
[08:25] <mneptok> why do you want 64 bit?
[08:25] <H264> because I do :P
[08:25] <chuck`_> mneptok: what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[08:25] <afflux> chuck`_: using gnome or KDE?
[08:26] <mneptok> chuck`_: ncurses
[08:26] <afflux> chuck`_: they do the same
[08:26] <Flannel> chuck`_: aptitude has a GUI
[08:26] <cables> Flannel, not really a GUI, but...
[08:26] <Flannel> cables: eh?  It's a GUI
[08:26] <chuck`_> afflux: gnome, but I don't know if I should just try getting a theme for gnome or change window managers to somethign a little "cooler"
[08:26] <afflux> chuck`_: in case youre using gnome, there is a quite nice website: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[08:26] <cables> Flannel, ncurses is a gui?
[08:26] <mneptok> H264: you realize that you will have no Flash without serious effort?
[08:26] <ismael_> chuck`_: Aptitude's smarter
[08:26] <H264> partly for fun, why not?, if I do any dev I will want 64 bit...
[08:26] <Checkk1> is it possible to rank the processes in Memory usage instead of CPU in 'top'?
[08:26] <chuck`_> afflux: I used blackbox some years back and that looked rather sexy
[08:26] <Flannel> cables: of course it is.  Just because it uses characters doesn't make it not graphical
[08:27] <afflux> chuck`_: gnome is good enough, I think
[08:27] <Flannel> cables: run "aptitude" by itself, you'll see
[08:27] <DigitalNinja> Is there a quick way to image my drive?
[08:27] <cables> Flannel, I know... it's just I've never heard an ncurses app being referred to as a gui
[08:27] <DigitalNinja> I would like to install another OS and then put the old one back when I'm done
[08:27] <cables> Flannel, text gui, I like it :)
[08:27] <thiesen> chuck`_: ever heard of ASCII-art? :-)
[08:27] <H264> mneptok: flash? like as in flash drives? or macromedia flash?
[08:27] <Derek> how do i install Ubuntu server on my PC?
[08:27] <mneptok> H264: Macromedia Flash
[08:28] <H264> ok, yeah, no problem
[08:28] <chuck`_> thiesen: Unless you're talking about pictures made from ASCII/unicode characters, then no, I haven't :)
[08:28] <Derek> goatse in ASCIi is funny :P
[08:28] <mneptok> H264: and with it being used to drive simple things like menus, lack of Flash is a big impediment
[08:28] <afflux> chuck`_: I liked the tiling window manager (larswm) but think this won't look as good, but is quite useful, if you get used to it
[08:28] <thiesen> chuck`_: that's what I meant... :-) aptitude has an ASCII-gui... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg has too...
[08:28] <Flannel> Derek: verify the MD5 of the iso (unless you torrented it), burn the CD (4x), pop it in, follow the instructions.
[08:28] <chuck`_> afflux: do you have a link where I can read up on it further?
[08:29] <H264> *flash
[08:29] <shane634> ok i am back
[08:29] <mneptok> H264: the 32 and 64 bit installation methodologies are not substantively different
[08:29] <afflux> chuck`_: until now only a german one... I'm searching
[08:29] <chuck`_> OK
[08:29] <Derek> Flannel: I burned the ISO, and put it in, it says "Failed to start the X server, etc.."
[08:29] <june_> does apt-get automatically remove unneeded dependencies (when you remove the last package that depends on them) ? or is there a command i need to run to do that
[08:29] <DigitalNinja> Can I use "dd" to image my drive?
[08:29] <Flannel> Derek: you didn't download the server CD, you got the desktop one
[08:30] <chuck`_> What is this "beryl" that I'm hearing so much about?  I've seen some themes for it and they all look really awesome.  Is it another window manager?
[08:30] <H264> well, in the tutorial I was looking at it required some sort of debian package that was only 32 bit... (I think)
[08:30] <thiesen> chuck`_: even the Alternative installer disk has an ASCII-gui
[08:30] <Derek> I just checked, I do have the server ISO burned
[08:30] <afflux> chuck`_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larswm
[08:31] <H264> chuck`_: beryl is a very cool window manager eye candy thing
[08:31] <H264> I recomend getting it :)
[08:31] <odix> i just freed up like 40 gigs..since i can't resize my main ext3, what kind of drive should i create to associate with my main ext3
[08:31] <odix> ext 2 or swap ?
[08:31] <afflux> chuck`_: it's very minimalistic, windows don't have a title bar. you have to move them via some keyboard action
[08:31] <rik_> Any idea how to clear the terminal screen and place the cursor at the top? $TERM=xterm, but 'clear' just does a FF.
[08:31] <odix> mainly for media storage
[08:31] <afflux> odix: swap can't be used as storage
[08:32] <odix> so ext2 ?
[08:32] <torshido> is JDK 6 going to be inluded in Feisty?
[08:32] <afflux> odix: yes
[08:32] <chuck`_> afflux: ah, I'm not sure I'd like doing that... this box is going to be a server so I don't really need the eye candy but I'd like it anyways.  but since it _is_ going to be a server I don't think moving windows would be much of a problem but it might get annoying
[08:32] <afflux> torshido: are you talking about the java thing?
[08:32] <H264> mneptok: do you know of any 64 bit duel booting tutorials?
[08:32] <torshido> afflux: yeah
[08:33] <odix> i just flashed my 812s to a dual layer burner ;p i bought my burner 4 years ago
[08:33] <afflux> chuck`_: I see ;)
[08:33] <odix> thats great.
[08:33] <cables> H264, again with the "duel" :) I'm going to be a pedant and tell you that you'll find a lot more on Google if you use "dual"
[08:33] <chuck`_> Is it possible to have several window managers installed and switch between them easily?  I've read that it's unwise to have more than one window manager installed, is this accurate?
[08:33] <torshido> afflux: "the java thing" hehehe you Linux guys will allways think Java is slow and all that crap... hehehe
[08:33] <afflux> torshido: i'm running feisty and there are some sun-java6-* packages. jdk and jre are some of them
[08:33] <H264> :P
[08:33] <afflux> torshido: yes :D
[08:33] <cables> I've got sun-java6 here with Edgy backports.
[08:33] <Flannel> chuck`_: yep, you switch between them under "sessions" in GDM
[08:33] <torshido> afflux: well, let me tell you Java IS NOT SLOW... JDK 6 is awesone
[08:34] <ardchoille> chuck`_: You can have more than one installed if you want. You need to log out and choose a new one in the gdm screem, though
[08:34] <ismael_> torshido: It's not a "Linux" thing... When I ran windows I thought the same about java...
[08:34] <odix> afflux, when i reboot will ubuntu auto mount these ?
[08:34] <chuck`_> Flannel: so it's not a risk to have more than one window manager installed?  no conflicts or anything?
[08:34] <afflux> torshido: yeah, but I still have trouble about installing the browser plugin in amd64 here.
[08:34] <odix> chuck, no
[08:34] <cables> chuck`_, nope.
[08:34] <testere> hello all
[08:34] <afflux> odix: If you put them into the /etc/fstab or tell the installer to do this
[08:34] <odix> i loved gnome+E back in the day
[08:35] <odix> is enlightenment still around ?
[08:35] <cables> odix, yep
[08:35] <torshido> afflux: that's the problem: Java was not designed to be run on a browser... repeat after me: Java Enterprise Edition...
[08:35] <afflux> torshido: last but not least there is this ugly licensing problem
[08:35] <chuck`_> where in the hell did I read about not having more than one window manager installed... I think I even saw it on the installer of some distro once... oh, well. ;] 
[08:35] <cables> !enlightenment | odix
[08:35] <ubotu> odix: Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[08:35] <torshido> afflux: not anymore: Java is GPL (well, it will be in the next few weeks)
[08:35] <arooni> so basically .... linux's current memory usage = current use -( buffer+cache)
[08:35] <arooni> hey folks... whenever my laptop hibernates my synaptic touchpad loses the ability to do veritcal scroll.. (i have to restart x) ... is there a way around this?  thanks!
[08:36] <chuck`_> So how does the "sessions" thing work?  when I go to login to ubuntu, will there be a list of which window manager I want to use on the login screen or something?
[08:36] <odix> is it still possible to run both together ?
[08:36] <digi_> I have a folder in my media folder that is empty but keeps coming up after I restart,how can I get rid of it?
[08:36] <odix> i forgot how i did that
[08:36] <dade> .
[08:36] <afflux> torshido: really? didn't hear about that... gotta read some news
[08:36] <testere> I have windows+pardus And now I want to install ubuntu
[08:36] <cables> arooni, if you can find where to put scripts that run on unhibernate, I've got a command for you:
[08:36] <afflux> chuck`_: yes. for larswm you need to create a file for this
[08:36] <arooni> cables: i'm all ears!
[08:36] <dade`> someone that has sleep working on a macbook ?
[08:36] <Flannel> chuck`_: When you're logging in (that's called GDM, assuming you're using ubuntu currently), there's a"sessions" button, you can change what DE you're logging into
[08:36] <torshido> afflux: www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/
[08:36] <cables> arooni, synclient VertEdgeScroll=1
[08:37] <cables> arooni, that re-enables edge scrolling
[08:37] <cables> arooni, just figure out where to stick that :)
[08:37] <cables> arooni, that's the hard part though
[08:37] <arooni> cables: now how come when i try that when i'm already running shell it doesnt work
[08:37] <arooni> like if i do 'qsynaptics'
[08:37] <arooni> unenable and reenable
[08:37] <arooni> it doesnt work
[08:37] <afflux> torshido: wow, thats cool.
[08:37] <testere> I have windows+pardus And now I want to install ubuntu
[08:37] <cables> arooni, that's beyond me... I guess my command won't work :(
[08:37] <chuck`_> Flannel: OK.  so GDM is just the graphical login, right, that's the impression I've been under from installing other distros
[08:37] <arooni> cables: well it does work
[08:37] <arooni> if X isn't loaded
[08:38] <afflux> torshido: I start liking java. Should try to read some tutorials again.
[08:38] <cables> arooni, when x is loaded the command doesn't work?
[08:38] <arooni> or... it loads next time you start up
[08:38] <arooni> cables: right
[08:38] <cables> arooni, i don't know...
[08:38] <digi_> how can I tell where a folder come from in the media folder?
[08:38] <arooni> damn
[08:38] <torshido> afflux: you should read the Java Enterprise Edition 5 Tutorial, is great
[08:38] <ardchoille> cables , arooni Do you really need a mouse cursor if X isn't loaded?
[08:38] <cables> digi_, it's symlinked to something in /etc/fstab, didn't i tell you that before?
[08:38] <torshido> afflux: http://java.sun.com/javaee/5/docs/tutorial/doc/
[08:39] <arooni> i'm sorry i should say
[08:39] <cables> ardchoille, scroll up :)
[08:39] <afflux> ah, thanks torshido
[08:39] <arooni> i need vertical scroll when x is loaded
[08:39] <digi_> I dont think it is
[08:39] <digi_> I have an extra folder
[08:39] <filou> Hi
[08:39] <filou> May I ask a question ?
[08:39] <mneptok> torshido / afflux: http://mediacast.sun.com/share/tmarble/shuttleworth.ogg
[08:39] <odix> afflux, i dont see an option in gparted for it
[08:39] <ardchoille> filou: You just did
[08:39] <Flannel> !ask | filou
[08:39] <ardchoille> lol
[08:39] <ubotu> filou: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:39] <cables> filou, people usually aren't that polite on IRC :)
[08:39] <odix> afflux, but i did complete all operations successfulky
[08:39] <dubbyah> how safe is Wubi in terms of data loss?
[08:40] <cables> To tell you the truth, politeness on IRC just clogs up the channel, no offense or anything :)
[08:40] <filou> ok..So, how can I share, locally, the calendar of evolution ?
[08:40] <afflux> odix: in the installer, after the gparted steps, it asks for the mount points
[08:40] <Derek> Ok, i Burned (Desktop version ISo for Ubuntu), and i Load the CD into , and it brings me to ubuntu prompt, when i click "start or install ubuntu", it brings me to a loading bar screen, then "Failed to start X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely it is not setup correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem? <YES> <NO>"
[08:41] <shatrat> Derek, try the safe graphics settings option on boot.  If that doesnt work you might want to download the Alternative installer.
[08:41] <dubbyah> how safe is Wubi in terms of data loss, i don't want to have to reformat
[08:41] <ardchoille> Derek: That can happen when xorg, for whatever reason, doesn't recognise your video card
[08:41] <odix> afflux, would if i missed then and already exited ?
[08:41] <afflux> odix: no problem
[08:42] <afflux> odix: just add a line to /etc/fstab
[08:42] <ardchoille> Bedtime, be back later :)
[08:42] <Flannel> Derek: that's not the server CD, if you wanted a GUI-less server, you'll need the server CD or alternate CD
[08:42] <afflux> odix: like: "/dev/hdX /media/mountpoint ext2 defaults 0 0"
[08:42] <odix> there now...
[08:42] <afflux> odix: change /Dev/hdX and /media/mountpoint according to your drive and where you wanna mount it
[08:43] <boky> I need some application for my ubuntu server to check internet activity (download, upload) for each user in LAN. What software I should use?
[08:43] <afflux> (yay, it's helping day... people ask questions I can answer :D)
[08:44] <Derek> Flannel: I just want Ubuntu now, don't need server. Sorry for confusion.
[08:44] <odix> no uuid is needed ?
[08:44] <chuck`_> afflux: on this gnome-look.org website should I be browsing through the GTK categories if I want themes for all my windows and such?
[08:44] <chuck`_> afflux: since I'm using gnome and not one of these other window managers in the list
[08:44] <tjs> if so what module do I need to load?
[08:44] <tjs> oops
[08:45] <tjs> hey, I have an adsl modem that has 1 ethernet and 1 usb port, and the manual explains how you can just plug the usb into a windows machine for network connectivity, does ubuntu do this?
[08:45] <cables> chuck`_, you mean for buttons and sliders and checkboxes and stuff?
[08:45] <tjs> if so what module do I need to load?
[08:45] <Flannel> Derek: alright, if that doesn't work in safe mode, you'll want to grab the alternate CD (it can install systems both with and without the GUI).
[08:45] <cables> tjs, I'd use Ethernet if I were you...
[08:45] <afflux> chuck`_: I think you'll need gtk for buttons and stuff, and metacity for window decorations and icons
[08:45] <chuck`_> cables: yeah window components and such, and I guess their animations and what not
[08:45] <tjs> cables: using that to connect my airport express
[08:45] <cables> chuck`_, not animations, but components. GTK themes will do.
[08:45] <Derek> Where would I grab an alternate CD? by redownloading it from a different ftp?
[08:46] <cables> tjs, why not go modem --> airport express --> linux box?
[08:46] <cables> !alternate | Derek
[08:46] <mneptok> Derek: a torrent is preferable
[08:46] <ubotu> Derek: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:46] <tjs> the linux box does not have wireless
[08:46] <odix> one more question ;p
[08:47] <afflux> odix: just ask :)
[08:47] <cables> tjs, now I understand. But if the pc is close enough to the modem, and the modem is close enough to the APE, then can't you connect them through ethernet?
[08:47] <odix> i just installed enlightenment via synaptics..im in gnome...i want to run them together..how do i start gnome+E
[08:47] <cables> tjs, also, I don't think the modem can handle both at once...
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <Flannel> Derek: Same place you got the desktop CD, although you may need to go one link further, with "Additional Install Options", if you're getting Edgy.
[08:47] <cables> What was the D-Lining about?
[08:47] <rik_> Ignore my question, I found a way to do it.
[08:48] <odix> o..
[08:48] <odix> stupid question
[08:48] <odix> "enlightenment" via term
[08:48] <odix> ;p
[08:48] <afflux> odix: open a terminal, type: "xinit -- :1 -ac" ---- you'll get a clean new X server in VT 8 (you can switch back to VT7 by ctrl+alt+f7)
[08:48] <shma> Hi
[08:48] <shma> Tell me please, may I upgrade from dapper to edgy using ubuntu-6.10-desktop cd?
[08:48] <odix> ok
[08:48] <odix> ill try that
[08:48] <tjs> cables: the modem only has one ethernet port, used by the airport express, the only other port is the USB on the modem, the modem manual says you can connect 2 PCs one via ethernet and one via usb
[08:49] <rlj> i'm on an edgy server having trouble with the samba package. thinking it may be a bug, but i'm not sure. can i safely get a newer version on edgy of samba by enabling some backports repo?
[08:49] <afflux> odix: switch between these X servers by ctrl+alt+FX where X is the number of the VT. Default X server is VT7
[08:49] <tjs> I used to have modem --ethernet--> APE --> laptops, but now have this little embedded linux machine with no wireless
[08:49] <cables> tjs, ok. I don't know how to do what you want, but if both the APE and the PC are close enough to the modem to be connected by cables, couldn't the PC be connected to the APE by  cable?
[08:49] <tovella> shma: i think it would be better to do it over the internet, so you can get all the updates.
[08:49] <afflux> shma: think there should be an upgrade script on the cd
[08:50] <cables> mneptok, what's with the banning/d-lining-ness?
[08:50] <afflux> shma: just run this from dapper
[08:50] <tjs> er.. the APE only has one ethernet port
[08:50] <afflux> shma: or do as tovella said
[08:50] <cables> tjs, damn... I didn't know that.
[08:50] <odix> hmm
[08:50] <cables> tjs, ah, now that I think about it... airport express, the little type.
[08:50] <tjs> yeh, pretty much my only option is to get ubuntu to do network over usb
[08:50] <odix> but theres a way to run gnome+E simultaneouly
[08:50] <odix> let me try google
[08:50] <cables> tjs, I have no idea...
[08:50] <tjs> k, np
[08:51] <chuck`_> afflux: so I assume I just have to extract these metacity tarballs somewhere right?  nothing to install?
[08:51] <afflux> chuck`_: I'm not sure, wait 2 mins please
[08:51] <chuck`_> OK
[08:52] <arooni> the volume buttons my sony laptop only adjust pcm volume... how can i get it to adjust 'front' volume (as thats what really seems to control volume on my system)
[08:52] <afflux> chuck`_: no, click on system -> settings -> themes and click on "install themes", choose the tarball there
[08:52] <chuck`_> afflux: Ah.  duh, OK.  thanks :)
[08:53] <cables> mneptok, I'm just curious :)
[08:53] <afflux> np chuck`_  ;)
[08:53] <abo> which program do u recommend to convert wav files to mp3 or ogg?
[08:53] <dubbyah> can someone PLEASE tell me how safe Wubi is to run atm?
[08:54] <halex-ab> arooni, I suspect the buttons won't actually adjust the volume on the channel you've chosen, the only way you can do it is via the volume control at the top, IIRC..
[08:54] <halex-ab> Bug in one of gnome's components, unless it's been patched, but I doubt it..
[08:54] <afflux> abo: do you need a gui, or may this be console?
[08:55] <cables> arooni, I had a similar problem, and someone helped me fix it... no idea how though.
[08:55] <abo> afflux, any will do (although if you give me several choices I'd like to test them too)
[08:55] <arooni> heh
[08:56] <afflux> abo: if console, for wav to mp3: lame, for wav to ogg, oggenc
[08:56] <abo> afflux ok cheers
[08:56] <arooni> halex-ab: so i cant tell it do a different channel
[08:56] <halex-ab> arooni, you could run a script to adjust the volume on that specific channel if you setup a matching keyboard command/shortcut via X or the like, but otherwise no..
[08:56] <halex-ab> It's actually a pet peeve of mine.. heh
[08:56] <afflux> abo: oggenc is in package vorbis-tools, lame is in lame
[08:56] <afflux> afk, brb
[08:56] <arooni> halex-ab: what would i type from the command line
[08:56] <arooni> i can alias for it?
[08:57] <derek_> Hi
[08:57] <derek_> Can someone please help me. My notebook's right-ALT is not functioning in Ubuntu.
[08:57] <derek_> s/./?
[08:58] <halex-ab> arooni, Which channel was the one you needed adjusted?
[08:58] <arooni> halex-ab: 'Front'
[08:59] <halex-ab> arooni, try 'amixer sset Front +1 unmute'..
[08:59] <arooni> one set though?
[08:59] <arooni> or really sset
[08:59] <halex-ab> To decrease volume, use amixer sset Front 1- unmute
[08:59] <halex-ab> arooni, yeh, sset..
[09:00] <arooni> halex-ab: how can i create an alias for that
[09:00] <arooni> such that i can pass in a value
[09:00] <arooni> to set the sound at a certain amount
[09:00] <arooni> from 1 - 100
[09:00] <chuck`_> How do I go about changing my refresh rate? 60hz is starting to kill my eyes.
[09:00] <cables> !refresh
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about refresh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <cables> i guess not
[09:01] <chuck`_> :] 
[09:01] <cables> chuck`_, it's gotta be in xorg.conf somewhere...
[09:01] <chuck`_> Yeah
[09:01] <testere> I have windows + pardus linux and now I want to install ubuntu is it dangeraus
[09:01] <shatrat> !resolution | chuck`_ You might be able to find something helpful here.
[09:01] <ubotu> chuck`_ You might be able to find something helpful here.: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:01] <halex-ab> arooni, you can either use xbindkeys to make keys on your keyboard adjust it, or you can use .bashrc
[09:01] <chuck`_> cables: I'm reluctant to fudge with my X config though... I've always had bad results
[09:01] <arooni> xbindkeys?
[09:01] <shatrat> testere, no, but youll need another partition
[09:02] <testere> what about grub ?
[09:02] <testere> it ask which os is boot
[09:02] <cables> chuck`_, here's a tip: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak to back it up, and sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf to restore :)
[09:02] <shatrat> testere, it's not hard to add new OSes to grub
[09:02] <testere> ok Now I am gong to install ubuntu
[09:02] <testere> thanks a lot
[09:03] <shatrat> testere, good luck
[09:03] <ar13> hai
[09:03] <halex-ab> arooni, Yup, it'll just override the volume up/down keys on your keyboard..
[09:03] <arooni> halex-ab: ok i just installed it
[09:03] <arooni> how should i use it ;p
[09:04] <Huffalump> How do I kill/force-quit applications?  I was just testing a game (Wesnoth) and it 'takes over the screen' kinda like Direct X, but it didn't load properly.  I could hear music but everything was blank.   I ended up having to reboot from the button!  What can I do next time to kill the program and get back to my desktop?
[09:04] <Symmetria> lo all
[09:04] <halex-ab> arooni, follow the instructions in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/916 (post by Mathew, about half way through)
[09:05] <shatrat> Huffalump, there are a few ways.  alt F4 might kill the program, if not you can do ctrl alt backspace to kill X and go to a login screen.  If its not a fullscreen program you could try the program "xkill"  or you could use the command "killall programname" in a terminal or tty
[09:05] <derek_> Why is my right ALT key not working in Ubuntu?
[09:06] <afflux> Huffalump: another solution could be: change to VT1 by using ctrl+alt+f1, kill the programm using pkill <progname>
[09:06] <afflux> Huffalump: change back to VT7 by ctrl+alt+f7
[09:07] <Huffalump> shatrat, thanks.  I didn't think of alt+f4, but tried some others.
[09:07] <afflux> alt+f4 wont work if it is OpenGL and took "any" input.
[09:07] <Huffalump> afflux, I just tested those keys!  very interesting.  thanks
[09:07] <afflux> Huffalump: np
[09:07] <phxheat> hi, im trying to apt-get install phpmyadmin, but its not finding the package, any ideas? universe packages are available as well in apt
[09:08] <afflux> phxheat: edgy, feisty or dapper?
[09:08] <phxheat> dapper
[09:08] <H264> meh
[09:08] <H264> I think I need to reinstall OSX
[09:09] <afflux> should be available in universe. check your typing
[09:09] <H264> I installed refit too...
[09:10] <afflux> grrr, I need a wlan stick. My neighbour's using wep
[09:10] <phxheat> hmm, spelling is right
[09:10] <phxheat> eh, probably gotta do it manually
[09:10] <afflux> phxheat: then take it from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/phpmyadmin
[09:13] <xerophyte> could somebody help me with kernel boot error ? you can find the detail here http://kerneltrap.org/node/7848
[09:15] <yellowChicken> which config file is for user's personal settings? i.e. start firefox, auto mount directory, start openoffice ..
[09:16] <halex-ab> yellowChicken, there's multiple configuration files, GNOME applications usually use GConf, or hidden configuration files under your home directory.
[09:17] <halex-ab> Otherwise, it'll be under your home directory, or /etc
[09:17] <Derek> I'm still having trouble installing Ubuntu, I typed Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to ubuntu prompt and typed "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg", and it still gives same error
[09:17] <jesanchez> hi guys, I'm using Matlab under Ubuntu, and I have an issue when writing ^2 for example, because it changes into the tiny form. How could I disable this autoformatting? Thanks
[09:18] <yellowChicken> halex-ab: not planning to use gnome, planning to start vim before X starts
[09:19] <yellowChicken> or maybe right after, but will be flux box or something lightweight
[09:21] <halex-ab> yellowChicken, well, you'll probably need to edit the auto-start configuration file under ~/.fluxbox/autostart or something similar, I haven't used fluxbox in a long time..
[09:21] <halex-ab> Though, I'm fairly sure there'd be a GUI way to do it, if that's more your fancy..
[09:22] <huXfluX> hello. can anyone assist me in making bind9 work on ubuntu edgy?
[09:22] <lego72> hello all
[09:22] <yellowChicken> drwxr-xr-x 3 1000    0 4096 2007-03-13 22:19 .   <-- what's the zero after the 1000 mean? is that the group?
[09:22] <lego72> I'm having Beryl problems
[09:23] <lego72> brb
[09:23] <huXfluX> i've tried everything, syslog doesn't report any errors but if i do host domain.com, it only prints 'mail is handled by..' but no ip is resovled while ping-ing
[09:23] <halex-ab> yellowChicken, Yup.. :)
[09:23] <yellowChicken> halex-ab: looking for configure files for the user, before X starts, will be nice
[09:24] <yellowChicken> halex-ab: rc.local is still run as root i believe
[09:24] <yellowChicken> actually, i think a script is what i need.  where should i place this script?
[09:25] <halex-ab> yellowChicken, if running as user BEFORE X, since X is normally started as root, you'll need to remove it from the system init scripts, and get it to start on login..
[09:26] <halex-ab> yellowChicken, Unless you'd like to run it as sudo -u <username> vim on init..
[09:27] <yellowChicken> ic
[09:28] <Derek> this error im having with installing ubuntu seems to be common among ATI video cards, does anyone know a fix to get around the X server load in screen, ive tried using different install discs
[09:31] <huXfluX> i've tried everything, syslog doesn't report any errors but if i do host domain.com, it only prints 'mail is handled by..' but no ip is resovled while ping-ing
[09:32] <moschops> can someone answer a question on using update-manager to get to a development release
[09:32] <sergiu> I have a question: what does the Ubuntu DVD contain, other than the Ubuntu CD?
[09:33] <peija-kas> sergiu i think its got additional packages not normally on the cd
[09:33] <dilch> and some hot linux-on-linux movies
[09:33] <dilch> hot
[09:34] <sergiu> thanks
[09:34] <dilch> don't let your mom/gf/wife see the movies
[09:34] <odix> anyone alive ?
[09:35] <moschops> if I used update-manager -d to get to Feisty (I already did) then from there accept the daily updates it gives me will I eventually get to the "official" Feisty release code base, or will I have to switch back to non-development updates.
[09:35] <odix> i got an ext2 partition i need to mount
[09:35] <odix> mount: mount point /media/hda3 does not exist
[09:35] <halex-ab> odix, try /dev/hda3.. ;)
[09:35] <odix> hda1 = ntfs, hda 2 = ext3,  hda 3 = ext 2
[09:35] <odix> thats what i tried and got that error
[09:36] <odix> odix@odix-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda3
[09:36] <odix> Password:
[09:36] <odix> mount: mount point /media/hda3 does not exist
[09:36] <halex-ab> odix, you think you could pastebin your fstab?
[09:36] <odix> how do i do that ?
[09:36] <odix> i manually added this...
[09:36] <odix> /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext2 default 0 0
[09:37] <odix> didn't work, but it worked for my ntfs
[09:37] <odix> it has uuid's for my /dev/hda1 and 2 drives automatically, and my floppy cdroms...
[09:37] <halex-ab> odix, you have the source and destination mixed up..
[09:37] <halex-ab> I mean mount point and device mixed up..
[09:38] <odix> ?
[09:38] <odix> so switch media and hda ?
[09:38] <halex-ab> halex-ab, Yup..
[09:38] <halex-ab> odix, Yup*
[09:38] <odix> thats not how it is with the others ?
[09:38] <odix> ill try...but do i have to reboot or can i reload fstab ?
[09:39] <odix> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>
[09:39] <halex-ab> odix, just do mount /dev/hda3, once you've fixed up fstab..
[09:39] <arooni> how can i adjust the volume up one increment
[09:40] <halex-ab> odix, one second, you might be right.. ;)
[09:40] <odix> i hope not ;\
[09:41] <jani> where i can get  s3 virge dx drivers to ubuntu?
[09:41] <halex-ab> odix, Much simpler explaination: try 'sudo mkdir /media/hda3'.. :)
[09:42] <freesun> hello, my GDI printer stopped working after installing updates to my Edgy... please msg me if you have any clue... and yes I tried to reinstall samsung driver, but it declines to start installation process
[09:42] <odix> odix@odix-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda3
[09:42] <odix> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3
[09:42] <odix> hmm
[09:43] <odix> gparted picks it up as ext2
[09:43] <odix> like 40g
[09:43] <halex-ab> odix, try putting ext3 in instead..
[09:43] <halex-ab> See what happens..
[09:43] <Ademan> any apps to brute force *.rar passwords?
[09:43] <arooni> halex-ab: can you have buttons toggle?
[09:43] <cables> Ademan, seems like a fairly simple script to write.
[09:43] <arooni> halex-ab: with xbindkeys... ie. the firs ttime you do it ... it does X ... the second it does Y
[09:43] <halex-ab> arooni, what do you mean?
[09:44] <arooni> halex-ab: i.e. have a Mute/Unmute function
[09:44] <arooni> for my headphone channel
[09:44] <arooni> i would like to do this
[09:44] <cables> arooni, write a script to do that
[09:44] <odix> k just reformatted to 3 changed fstab to 3 trying..
[09:44] <odix> same thing ;\
[09:45] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i install new themes to gnome? any tutorial anywhere?
[09:45] <odix> oh i got it
[09:45] <odix> !
[09:45] <odix> thanks
[09:45] <cables> arooni, you could have it check whether it's muted, and if not, mute it, and vice-versa
[09:45] <evilhen> Hi. For which releases of ubuntu will security updates released? Only for the newest or for which?
[09:46] <cables> CactusWiZaRd, System>Preferences>Themes, then drag the theme file (.tar.bz or .tar.gz) into the window.
[09:46] <freesun> evilhen: dapper has long term support, edgy has still support
[09:46] <halex-ab> CactusWiZaRd, you can find themes on gnomelook.org, or in Synaptic..
[09:46] <CactusWiZaRd> cables: oh thanks :)
[09:46] <arooni> cables: bwah for now i'll have one mute key and one unmute key ;p
[09:46] <CactusWiZaRd> halex-ab: roger
[09:47] <btaylor> is anyone here?
[09:47] <CactusWiZaRd> btaylor: yes
[09:47] <cables> btaylor, lots of people
[09:47] <arooni> hey
[09:47] <odix> im dead
[09:47] <arooni> do i need to run anything so that xbindkeys works on startup
[09:47] <arooni> or is it just magic like that
[09:47] <btaylor> i just ran valgrind and it caused X to crash, i brought X back up and my shift/ctrl keys wouldn't work, so i rebooted; now my keyboard does not work in X at all
[09:48] <Derek> Anyone know a fix for installing Ubuntu 6.1 on a PC, getting a Xserver error with a Raedeon card
[09:48] <btaylor> does anyone know what i should do?
[09:48] <odix> is there any way to make stuff i delete automatically permanetly deleted instead of in trash
[09:48] <odix> derek whats the error
[09:48] <ShadowMan> Sir i have a problem in ubuntu
[09:48] <halex-ab> odix, Shift + Delete in Nautilus
[09:48] <ShadowMan> the live distribution dont detect my COM mouse
[09:48] <arooni> oh noes!
[09:48] <odix> cool
[09:48] <ShadowMan> how can i make it detect  it ?
[09:48] <arooni> now my audio is really really choppy
[09:48] <odix> halex your a genius
[09:48] <arooni> what have i done???
[09:49] <odix> Derek, try downloading Envy
[09:49] <halex-ab> odix, =D
[09:49] <odix> can you get into X at all ?
[09:49] <ShadowMan> anyone can help with the problem ?
[09:49] <rambo3> ShadowMan, that like 1990 technology
[09:49] <ShadowMan> yes its old ;(
[09:49] <ShadowMan> but it wont work ?
[09:49] <ShadowMan> any way to make it work ?
[09:49] <CactusWiZaRd> ShadowMan: hmm, why do you even use live? it doesn't have support for it i think
[09:49] <stork> http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey <-- vote ubuntu! :D
[09:50] <ShadowMan> i just wanted to tru ubuntu
[09:50] <ShadowMan> wanted to learn about linux and stuffs
[09:50] <rambo3> ShadowMan, there should be a menu for those types of mouses , either that or manual edit of config file
[09:50] <Frogzoo> arooni: are you using gstreamer? xine engine is best
[09:50] <odix> http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb
[09:50] <odix> Derek, http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb
[09:50] <Helmi> good morning
[09:50] <rambo3> !fixres | ShadowMan
[09:50] <ShadowMan> but the mouse dont work, now can i click on the menu :P
[09:50] <ubotu> ShadowMan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:50] <arooni> Frogzoo: i dont know if i am using that
[09:50] <arooni> Frogzoo: how can i find out ?
[09:50] <freesun> /leave
[09:51] <Helmi> is there anything like soundsets for gnome? or any other sounds? lots of thingws like new email notification or here in chatzilla just use a system beep. i'd like to substitute them with sounds.
[09:51] <ShadowMan> how to login to the console ? any shortcut key fmo the keyboard ?
[09:51] <CactusWiZaRd> and oh btw, how can i reduce cpu when using firefox? it's like 100% when i load pages
[09:51] <ShadowMan> !fixrex
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixrex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <ShadowMan> !fixres
[09:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:51] <ShadowMan> !fixmouse
[09:51] <odix> Derek, install, then sudo envy -t
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixmouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <btaylor> !fixkeyboard
[09:51] <ShadowMan> !fixkb
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixkeyboard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <ShadowMan> lewl
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixkb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <Derek> What is Envy? and the exact error is "failed to start the x server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like the view the problem? yes no
[09:51] <odix> derek, follow instructions for ati drivers
[09:51] <rambo3> ShadowMan, thats the same thing . X is graphical part of Ubuntu  . Stop spaming!
[09:51] <ShadowMan> any BK shortcut to open the termnal in ubuntu live ?
[09:51] <Frogzoo> arooni: it will be in your player options
[09:52] <ShadowMan> KB*
[09:52] <halex-ab> Helmi, check if ESD is enabled in the System Sounds dialog..
[09:52] <odix> derek, well we know it didnt start, so hit yes and tell me the error
[09:52] <halex-ab> Helmi, System->Preferences->Sound
[09:52] <halex-ab> First checkbox..
[09:52] <arooni> Frogzoo: ok im using xmms
[09:52] <Helmi> halex-ab: yes it is
[09:52] <arooni> Frogzoo: is that a codec it users to play back songs?
[09:52] <Helmi> halex-ab: i do have systeem sounds but not for everything
[09:52] <Derek> odix: ok , 1 sec
[09:52] <Frogzoo> ShadowMan: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  & you can set the mouse options (pretty sure)
[09:53] <Helmi> halex-ab: like new mail in thunderbird is signalled via the system beep
[09:53] <odix> derek, did you get that envy link ?
[09:53] <Derek> yes
[09:53] <odix> install
[09:53] <odix> you might be able to just sudo apt-get install envy
[09:53] <Derek> should i install on my Windows PC
[09:53] <ShadowMan> but how can i start up the terminal without the mouse :(
[09:53] <odix> no no
[09:53] <odix> boot to linux
[09:53] <Derek> i currently have windows Vista on my pc..
[09:53] <ShadowMan> i need to start the terminal to enter the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:53] <rambo3> ShadowMan, start ubuntu in rescue mode
[09:53] <odix> you have internet connection right ?
[09:53] <odix> in ubuntu
[09:53] <odix> ?
[09:54] <Derek> no
[09:54] <ShadowMan> ok thanks
[09:54] <ShadowMan> let me try
[09:54] <Derek> i cant even get to an ubuntu prompt
[09:54] <Frogzoo> ShadowMan: I think 'alt f2' & run gnome-terminal
[09:54] <halex-ab> Helmi, I suspect it's just Thunderbird doesn't have the sounds installed..? :s You can turn off the system beep, if it's annoying, though..
[09:54] <Derek> when i click install ubuntu, it starts, and about 80% through this error happens. "failed to start the x server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like the view the problem? yes no
[09:54] <ShadowMan> damn i just restarted the PC :P ill start it again  :P
[09:54] <Derek> ill post the details in a second.
[09:54] <jani> how i can install exe files?
[09:54] <Derek> i tried both with safe graphics, and without
[09:55] <halex-ab> jani, You can't.. :)
[09:55] <jani> nooo
[09:55] <halex-ab> jani, well, it depends if you're going to use WINE.. What application is it?
[09:55] <jani> cs 1.6
[09:55] <Helmi> halex-ab: thundebirds setup is to use the systems "new mail sound"
[09:55] <halex-ab> jane, yeh, that should work then.. :)
[09:55] <rambo3> jani there is gaming section on ubuntuforums .
[09:56] <odix> hmm
[09:56] <odix> why cant i make a link to /dev/hda3 in nautilus ?
[09:56] <Derek> (EE) No devices detected
[09:56] <Derek> Fatal Server error: no screen found
[09:56] <halex-ab> Helmi, in that case, have you checked the other system sound checkboxes in the Sound dialog?
[09:56] <Derek> that is error
[09:56] <odix> derek, hmm
[09:56] <odix> wrong drivers it looks like
[09:56] <odix> how old is the machine ?
[09:56] <odix> graphics card..
[09:56] <Derek> less than a year
[09:56] <Derek> x600 ultra
[09:57] <Derek> pentium 4, 2.8 core 2 duo
[09:57] <pyrohotdog> So I accidentily download a file with ~ characters in it's name...mv, cp, rm etc won't operate, despite \escape characters...
[09:57] <odix> rambo, can you help ?
[09:57] <rambo3> Derek, use Vesa as driver to get X
[09:57] <Derek> try rm -fr
[09:57] <Derek> how do you use Vesa as a driver?
[09:57] <odix> pyro you can rename ?
[09:57] <btaylor> my keyboard has stopped working in X; i ran valgrind, it crashed X, and now my keyboard won't work... does anyone have any ideas?  i've rebooted, and i've redone my xorg.conf
[09:57] <odix> with "mv"
[09:58] <rambo3> Derek : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:58] <pyrohotdog> Can't mv
[09:58] <odix> rambo he can't even get a prompt
[09:58] <Derek> rambo3: i already tried that, and -phigh
[09:58] <odix> derek..
[09:58] <rambo3> Derek, with Vesa driver ?
[09:58] <Derek> if i go ctrl-alt-f1, i get to a prompt
[09:58] <odix> sudo apt-get install envy
[09:58] <odix> sudo envy -t
[09:58] <odix> try it
[09:58] <pyrohotdog> invalid option...
[09:59] <Helmi> halex-ab: yes i have - but there's no message sound or new mail sound
[09:59] <odix> mv is invalid option in terminal ?
[09:59] <odix> wtf ?
[09:59] <Derek> command not found
[09:59] <odix> oh ya no internet...
[09:59] <odix> hmm
[09:59] <rambo3> Derek, Vesa is not a solution , its just temporery . You should check ubuntu forums for your card.
[09:59] <afflux> pyrohotdog: mv -- filename\~with\-weird\ characters.something newfilename.something
[09:59] <odix> download new ati drivers and install them manually
[09:59] <afflux> pyrohotdog: mind the --
[09:59] <odix> thats what envy does for you....
[10:00] <odix> if you have an internet connection
[10:00] <magik_> hrm.... anyone out there might be able to help me out with an irssi theme question? #irssi seems so dead.... anyone out here know anything about the special vars used for formatting themes?
[10:00] <Derek> so, should i reboot into Vista, use envy and then try?
[10:00] <odix> derek you wifi or direct ether ?
[10:00] <halex-ab> Helmi, so, I'm assuming you've also selected a sound file to play on a new message..?
[10:00] <Derek> im direct internet
[10:00] <rambo3> Derek : ubuntu version ?
[10:00] <odix> pm me
[10:00] <Derek> I have no ubuntu installed
[10:00] <Jeeves_Moss> can someone help me figure out an issue with Apache and virtual directoys?
[10:00] <Derek> Im trying to get rid of Vista for Ubuntu
[10:00] <Derek> i downloaded and burned the ISO from website
[10:01] <Derek> odix, what do you mean by pm me?
[10:01] <odix> private message
[10:01] <adamh> I'm behind a firewall and only port 22 outgoing is available. I have root access to another Ubuntu computer outside the firewall. What's the most non-invasive way of setting up that computer as an HTTP proxy, so I can tunnel through it to the Internet?
[10:01] <rambo3> Derek ok so it fails on Live CD ?
[10:01] <yellowChicken> private message
[10:01] <Derek> how do you private mesage?
[10:01] <pyrohotdog> afflux: different error...
[10:01] <ShadowMan> what is the password of su in ubuntu ?
[10:01] <Derek> rambo3, yes it fails on live cd
[10:01] <ShadowMan> live
[10:01] <dilch> adamh, squid
[10:01] <Helmi> halex-ab: hmm no i don't see that field in the list of possible sounds...
[10:01] <odix> hmm
[10:01] <afflux> pyrohotdog: which one?
[10:01] <adamh> Isn't squid bulky?
[10:01] <odix> why would it try and startx on a install ?
[10:01] <pyrohotdog> mv --
[10:02] <rambo3> Derek , i would recomend alternative CD then
[10:02] <pyrohotdog> unexpected token
[10:02] <Helmi> halex-ab: do you see one? there's nothing like new message or new mail
[10:02] <dilch> adamh, bulky? not really, unless you are running it on a p75 or something ;)
[10:02] <pyrohotdog> syntax error...
[10:02] <halex-ab> Helmi, I'm assuming it'd be an 'Informational message'..
[10:02] <adamh> I don't want a caching HTTP proxy. I just want something incredibly simple.
[10:02] <Derek> rambo3, an example being?
[10:02] <afflux> pyrohotdog: paste what you wrote to console and what it returned to http://phpfi.com please
[10:02] <Derek> odix, i dont know
[10:02] <halex-ab> Helmi, You could always put sounds in all of them and find out which one it is.. lol
[10:03] <Helmi> halex-ab: will test that - i've swithced of the system beep
[10:03] <Derek> i think it tries to load itself from the cd, so you can browse or whatever, as you install
[10:03] <dilch> adamh, well i recommended squid because it has the largest collection of documentation out there, and is easy to use
[10:03] <rambo3> Derek it is not liveCD/install CD , it doesnt use X to install .
[10:03] <dilch> adamh,  just set and forget
[10:03] <adamh> dilch: Okay, I'll give it a shot. THanks.
[10:03] <Derek> rambo3, do you have a link to a download for a live cd?
[10:03] <odix> derek, dhcpcd eth0
[10:03] <odix> get internet up
[10:03] <odix> then download envy
[10:03] <odix> install
[10:03] <Derek> should i call that at prompt?
[10:03] <odix> envy -t
[10:04] <odix> yes
[10:04] <Derek> ok , give me a minute .. need to get back
[10:04] <odix> ifconfig eth0 up
[10:04] <odix> dhcpcd eth0
[10:05] <Derek> rambo3, at Vista screen when i open disc, it says its a livecd
[10:05] <rambo3> Derek, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[10:05] <pyrohotdog> afflux: you way worked. Thanks!
[10:05] <afflux> pyrohotdog: oh i seem to be lagging, sry
[10:05] <Derek> odix, almost there, thanks for being patient, you too rambo3
[10:05] <odix> derek, when you boot livecd, can you get to a gui ?
[10:05] <rambo3> choose your country and then choose server then "Other installation options "
[10:06] <adamh> dilch: holy crap, that was easy! Thanks :)
[10:06] <Derek> odix, it goes 5 selection menu
[10:06] <yellowChicken> odix: envy ? for sounds?
[10:06] <Derek> with f(keys) for options
[10:06] <dilch> adamh, lol, i told you
[10:06] <odix> so you can ?
[10:06] <odix> is one of the selections boot ubuntu from hard disk ?
[10:06] <odix> like 3 from the top
[10:07] <Derek> permission denied ifconfig eth0 up
[10:07] <odix> sudo
[10:07] <odix> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[10:07] <Derek> that worked
[10:07] <massctrl> hi where does udev store which mac address is mapped to which interface naming such as eth1, eth2 etc,....
[10:07] <Derek> just brought me back to prompt
[10:07] <odix> sudo dhcpcd eth0
[10:07] <odix> rambo..i guessing he installed it and X is crashing
[10:08] <CactusWiZaRd> what difference is between metacity, beryl and gtk-themes in gnome-look.org?
[10:08] <Derek> sudo dhcpcd eth0 <command not found>
[10:08] <adamh> CactusWiZaRd: If you don't know, then ignore the beryl themes entirely
[10:08] <CactusWiZaRd> adamh: k
[10:08] <halex-ab> CactusWiZaRd, Metacity is the border thing around your windows basically, and GTK themes are the buttons and stuff..
[10:08] <adamh> CactusWiZaRd: Metacity themes will change the way window borders look. GTK themes will change the way buttons and scrollbars look.
[10:08] <rambo3> CactusWiZaRd, metacity is window borders for programs
[10:09] <Derek> would you like me to restart and go back to initial screen?
[10:09] <CactusWiZaRd> oh, ok... thanks
[10:09] <yellowChicken> odix: dhcpcd is not on ubuntu, ubuntu use dhclient eth0
[10:09] <odix> would are your options at that screen ?
[10:09] <Derek> give me a minute
[10:09] <odix> derek
[10:09] <odix> dhclient eth0
[10:09] <odix> sudo..
[10:09] <odix> try that
[10:09] <odix> im use to slack ;p
[10:09] <Derek> just restarted :P
[10:09] <odix> man
[10:09] <Derek> give me a sec
[10:09] <Derek> ill tell you at promotp
[10:09] <odix> choose boot ubuntu form hard disk
[10:10] <odix> if thats an option
[10:10] <Derek> options are:
[10:10] <Derek> Start of install ubuntu
[10:10] <Derek> Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode
[10:10] <Derek> Check cd for defects
[10:10] <Derek> Memory Test
[10:10] <Derek> Boot from First hard Disk
[10:10] <odix> boot first from hard disk
[10:10] <Derek> f1 - help f2 language f3 - keymap f4 - vga f5 - accessibility f6 - other options
[10:11] <odix> get to a prompt
[10:11] <Derek> boot first from hard disk goes to windows
[10:11] <odix> hmm
[10:11] <odix> you dont have a dualboot ?
[10:11] <Derek> no
[10:11] <odix> start or install ubuntu
[10:11] <Derek> that gives error
[10:11] <odix> did you try safe mode ?
[10:12] <Derek> going into windows safe mode?
[10:12] <odix> no
[10:12] <odix> ubuntu graphics safe mode
[10:12] <Derek> yes
[10:12] <Derek> same error
[10:12] <odix> check to see if your card is supported
[10:12] <odix> what version of ubuntu do you have ?
[10:12] <odix> Edgy ?
[10:12] <Derek> 6.2
[10:12] <Derek> 6.1*
[10:13] <arooni> help! control + F now launches a random terminal window
[10:13] <arooni> how can i stop this madness???
[10:13] <Derek> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso is what i downloaded
[10:13] <odix> just a second
[10:14] <yellowChicken> Derek: 6.10 kind of suck, i use 6.06
[10:14] <wwq222> hey is there a command to list all processes on the system?
[10:14] <rambo3> .1
[10:14] <CactusWiZaRd> yellowChicken: you're wrong!
[10:15] <yellowChicken> CactusWiZaRd: wifi no wokie on 6.10
[10:15] <Derek> there is an alternate download , iso image
[10:15] <quiteFrank> wwq222: ps -A
[10:15] <rambo3> feisty will be better then 6.06
[10:15] <wwq222> thanks
[10:15] <Derek> im going to try that one
[10:15] <odix> download the alternative cd
[10:16] <odix> yellow he has a fairly new gfx card
[10:16] <Derek> its going pretty slow 600kb/s
[10:16] <yellowChicken> rambo3: yes, looking forward for 7.04
[10:16] <odix> older versions might do worse
[10:16] <mneptok> yellowChicken: Atheros?
[10:16] <yellowChicken> mneptok: yes
[10:16] <yellowChicken> mneptok: how you know?
[10:16] <oiaohm> Attempting to get webmin to work in ubuntu No internet connection form machine with ubuntu.
[10:16] <odix> rambo... can you tell me why i cant place files in my newly mounted ext2...permission denied..tried chmod
[10:16] <CactusWiZaRd> well, i sure hope that future versions of ubuntu won't change too much from what i have used to now :P
[10:16] <odix> +x
[10:17] <mneptok> yellowChicken: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules will get you 802.11x on 6.10
[10:17] <odix> ya i like ubuntu more then the older versions of mandrake
[10:17] <odix> for user friendliness
[10:17] <Derek> what do you guys think of Mac OsX?
[10:18] <yellowChicken> mneptok: don't remember, but i was using synaptic and the box for linux restricted modules are checked
[10:18] <badserii> Is there a version of Automatix CD for Dapper? Or if not, is there any equivalent package?
[10:18] <mneptok> badserii: please do not use Automatix
[10:18] <rambo3> odix no i dont know those ones should be mounted in fstab and without permission things it should work
[10:18] <rambo3> !mount
[10:18] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:18] <odix> 6.1
[10:18] <yellowChicken> mneptok: how you know am using atheros?
[10:18] <fnf> badseni: don't use Automatix if you want a stable system
[10:18] <rambo3> !DiskMounter
[10:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:18] <badserii> thanks
[10:18] <mneptok> yellowChicken: i pay attention.
[10:18] <odix> i can see my partitions
[10:19] <odix> they are mounted
[10:19] <odix> correctly
[10:19] <odix> but i cant move information to my ext2...
[10:19] <fnf> !enter | odix
[10:19] <ubotu> odix: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:19] <odix> right ;] 
[10:20] <fnf> odix: what did mv say ?
[10:20] <Derek> and for the previous question, yes im trying to install Edgy
[10:21] <odix> odix@odix-desktop:~$ cp screenshot.bmp /media/hda3
[10:21] <odix> cp: cannot create regular file `/media/hda3/screenshot.bmp': Permission denied
[10:21] <I> Does anyone know a link for the edgy .deb network-manager-gnome packages?
[10:21] <mneptok> I: and all of its dependencies?
[10:22] <yellowChicken> mneptok: ?
[10:22] <odix> apt-get build-dep
[10:22] <odix> fnf any suggestions ?
[10:22] <Derek> If I upgraded my video card using Vista, could that be the issue in why my Ubuntu will not install correctly? So if i roll back could that work?
[10:22] <fnf> odix: that means your user account doesn't have the permission to change the mounted partition.
[10:23] <fdsasdf> i dunno, im kinda noob at linux, but someone just said dpkg network-manager-gnome and i don't have internet on ubuntu yet
[10:23] <nospi> how do i change my computer name?
[10:23] <fnf> odix: usually for newly created partition you need to chown and chmod
[10:23] <odix> hmm
[10:23] <odix> i chmod +x
[10:23] <yellowChicken> mneptok: was it the other day that i said i have atheros?
[10:23] <mneptok> Derek: how do you upgrade a video card with an OS?
[10:23] <fdsasdf> so i can't apt-get
[10:23] <odix> chane owner to odix ?
[10:23] <fnf> odix: try 'ls -la /media', what does it say ?
[10:23] <Derek> mneptok: Vista does it automatically
[10:23] <rambo3> odix or users
[10:24] <fnf> odix: yup. but a better solution would be change it to root:plugdev
[10:24] <mneptok> Derek: Vista cannot upgrade hardware.
[10:24] <nospi> anyone know?
[10:24] <odix> gives me hda3
[10:24] <matason> yellowChicken: Are you having problems with Atheros?
[10:24] <Iznougoud> How the heck do I get Ubuntu to use a wireless NIC?
[10:24] <Derek> Vista itself doesn't upgrade it, but it checks to see if it can be updated, and then upgrades the firmware for you, via the video card's website
[10:24] <odix> wow ;] 
[10:24] <fnf> odix: I need to see the permission/user/group of /media/hda3
[10:24] <odix> just had to chmod the /dev and not the mount point
[10:24] <odix> stupid me
[10:25] <odix> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root    4096 2007-03-14 04:46 hda3
[10:25] <yellowChicken> matason: yes for 6.10 but now using 6.06, wifi workie
[10:25] <Derek> However, my point is, if the ATI card was upgraded to be Vista capable, I wonder if that is the problem showing the screens in the X Desktop
[10:25] <mneptok> Derek: weren't you installing a server?
[10:25] <odix> wait still not working ;p
[10:25] <fnf> odix: try "sudo chown -v root:plugdev /media/hda3" and "sudo chmod -v g+w /media/hda3"
[10:25] <rambo3> Derek, that is not possible
[10:25] <Derek> rambo3, what is not possible?
[10:26] <Derek> mneptok, I just want Ubuntu
[10:26] <rambo3> ATI card was upgraded to be Vista capable
[10:26] <fnf> odix: I forgot, add -R parameter to both commands
[10:26] <matason> yellowChicken: Ah OK - I'm on 6.06 and it works OK except it's extremely slooooowww!
[10:26] <Derek> A video card would not be upgraded to work with Direct X.10?
[10:26] <mneptok> Derek: if you want a server, you do not need X
[10:26] <fdsasdf> can someone please tell me where i can get the network-manager-gnome files for edgy in a web browser. i've tryed looking through archive.ubuntu.com and i cant find it
[10:26] <rambo3> !madwifi | fdoving
[10:26] <ubotu> fdoving: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:27] <odix> perfect
[10:27] <odix> thanks.
[10:27] <Derek> mneptok: I dont need a server, I just want ubuntu period, and the install is erroring, from the Live CD
[10:27] <mneptok> fdsasdf: you can't install just the .deb because n-m-g has a lot of dependencies
[10:27] <odix> mneptok..
[10:27] <mneptok> Derek: so get the alternate CD
[10:27] <fdsasdf> :(
[10:27] <yellowChicken> matason: works fast here. had hardware address error on 6.10
[10:27] <odix> fdsa: open up synpatics
[10:27] <Derek> mneptok, 31.6% done :P
[10:27] <Rooy> nospi: in Network Settings or smt in admin, I'm on Vietnamese here
[10:27] <matason> Is there something "stronger" than rm -rf for removing files that seem to be corrupt?
[10:27] <odix> package manager
[10:27] <fdsasdf> isn't there a file with all the dependicies in it?
[10:28] <nospi> Rooy, ok i'll check it out, thanks
[10:28] <mneptok> fdsasdf: no.
[10:28] <MasseR> matason: No but do fsck on the drive
[10:28] <matason> yellowChicken: Oh really? I'm on an IBM X31
[10:28] <fnf> matason: how do you know it was corrupted ?
[10:28] <odix> if hes running gnome cant he just use reposits ?
[10:28] <yellowChicken> i am on toshiba satellite
[10:28] <MasseR> matason: I had similar trouble, had to fsck to fix it :)
[10:28] <nospi> Rooy, done, thanks
[10:28] <nospi> Rooy, brb, gotta login again
[10:28] <yellowChicken> lappy computer
[10:28] <MasseR> Then it was rm -fr 'able
[10:28] <matason> fnf: I'm guessing, the file attributes are all ?
[10:28] <Rooy> nospi: thought it require reboot
[10:28] <mneptok> odix: he wants to dowload the packages for local installation on another machine.
[10:29] <odix> o
[10:29] <fnf> matason: nope, it indicates there's no user/group applied to it. Just use chown.
[10:29] <matason> fnf: Thank you
[10:29] <fdsasdf> mneptok: would one of these files have the dependicies in them? http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/0.6/
[10:29] <matason> I still have plenty to learn
[10:29] <mneptok> fdsasdf: no
[10:29] <Derek> Where can I find a list of video cards that have issue with Ubuntu? (or something like it)
[10:29] <fdsasdf> :(
[10:30] <odix> fda you want the deps ?
[10:30] <mneptok> fdsasdf: GNOME source repositories have nothing to do with Ubuntu binary repos
[10:30] <odix> dhcdbd, libnl1-pre6, libnm-util0, network-manager
[10:30] <mneptok> odix: please don't
[10:30] <fdsasdf> fine ill just turn my router to wep and back after ive donwloaeded them from the terminal
[10:30] <fnf> Derek: I think you'd better find whether your card works with Ubuntu, or rather, the Linux kernel.
[10:31] <Derek> fnf, how do I go about doing that?
[10:31] <odix> fdsa becareful i got airsnort and know where you live.
[10:31] <Derek> fdsasdf: WEP sucks
[10:31] <odix> mneptok, sorry.
[10:31] <mneptok> odix: i know you're trying to help, but n-m-g has a LOT more deps than the ones you listed.
[10:31] <cypherdelic> hello there
[10:32] <fnf> Derek: search "<your card>" "Ubuntu" "problem" ;) if a lot of them shows up, it is probably not good. Hypothetical of course
[10:32] <fdsasdf> derek: how else am i gonna get the network-manager-gnome sutff?
[10:32] <odix> download the cd
[10:32] <Derek> fnf, haha
[10:32] <odix> like he said
[10:32] <fnf> Derek: nvidia is currently the best supported though.
[10:32] <Derek> fdsasdf, I do not know
[10:32] <Derek> ATI here :(
[10:33] <odix> ati actually outperforms nvidia almost everytime
[10:33] <mneptok> fdsasdf: just use WEP for 10 minutes. or set up WPA by hand
[10:33] <matason> fnf: I did chown user:group filename etc and I got "Cannot access --- no such file or directory"
[10:33] <Derek> WPA is far better than WEP
[10:33] <odix> matason then you typed it in wrong
[10:33] <odix> derek, but still crackable ;p
[10:33] <fdsasdf> or i could just turn off wireless security
[10:33] <Derek> WPA is very hard to crack, WEP is much easier
[10:33] <fnf> matason: are you sure the file is actually there ?. Where is it ?
[10:34] <fdsasdf> how do wep keys work? there are like 4 of them
[10:34] <nospi> Rooy, yeah, that did it. thanks
[10:34] <nospi> Rooy, do you know which is the best shell for newbies?
[10:34] <Rooy> nospi: yw
[10:34] <odix> hexadecimal
[10:34] <odix> weak.
[10:34] <matason> fnf: It's listed when I do ls -la
[10:34] <odix> for 64 bit encrypt
[10:34] <Rooy> nospi: i always use bash, never tried anything different
[10:35] <fnf> matason: what was the output of ls -la ?
[10:35] <Rooy> nospi: google around for some .bashrc files of people
[10:35] <nospi> Rooy, ok, i'm just muckin around with bash and sh. in sh you can't press up to use a previous command
[10:35] <nospi> Rooy, ok
[10:35] <Rooy> nospi: lots of interesting things you can do
[10:35] <matason> fnf: ?--------- ? ?    ?      ?                ?  the-file
[10:35] <Derek> 64 bit encryption is weaksauce now
[10:35] <nospi> Rooy, cool
[10:36] <nospi> Rooy, this is VERY different to windows lol
[10:36] <Derek> almost Brute Force easy
[10:36] <fnf> matason: gah, the file size doesn't even show up. In which case you'd want to fsck it first.
[10:36] <matason> fnf: Ah OK thanks :)
[10:36] <Derek> fdsasdf: wikipedia + WEP = how they work
[10:37] <odix> 512kb wep is still weaksauce
[10:37] <Derek> WPA is the best to use for Wireless Security
[10:37] <joerlend> I've installed the package wordpress from the universe, and it's dependencies. How do I use it? I can't find it anywhere.
[10:37] <matason> fnf: So basically it is a corrupt file?
[10:38] <matason> fnf: And fsck checks the disk?
[10:38] <Rooy> Derek: they have born WPA2, you know :)
[10:38] <Derek> rooy: haha they do :)
[10:38] <fnf> matason: I can't speak for sure. But most likely so.
[10:38] <z0rz> Is there any easy way to see what program is writing to the system log?
[10:38] <z0rz> /var/log/syslog
[10:38] <Derek> but I believe as you increase encryption you decrease performance
[10:38] <fnf> matason: yup, umount it then fsck.
[10:39] <Rooy> z0rz: sudo lsof /var/log/syslog should give open handles at once instance, not sure how to follow it though
[10:39] <Flannel> joerlend: /usr/share/wordpress/  and read the readme.html, I think
[10:39] <matason> fnf: Thanks for your help and also everyone else :)
[10:39] <fnf> matason: you're welcome.
[10:39] <dilch> do any of the gstreamer plugins allow Ryhthmbox to play wmas? If so , which one?
[10:40] <z0rz> Rooy: It only shows syslogd in the list
[10:40] <Rooy> dilch: try installing gstreamer-plugin-bad
[10:40] <fnf> dilch: Have you tried UbuntuGuide ?
[10:40] <dilch> Rooy, i did, no dice
[10:40] <dilch> fnf, yep
[10:40] <z0rz> Anyways, my problem is.. Every single packet (bandiwdth traffic) is being logged to my syslog and it's resulting in some nasty CPU usage
[10:40] <Derek> anyone use WINE to play WoW?
[10:40] <Rooy> dilch: then gstreamer-ffmpeg
[10:40] <Derek> z0rz: why are you logging packets?
[10:40] <odix> derek, i wouldnt try it
[10:41] <dilch> Rooy, ok, that was the next one i was going to try
[10:41] <z0rz> Derek: I have no idea...
[10:41] <odix> cedega maybe ?
[10:41] <fnf> dilch: Tried play the file with totem ?
[10:41] <z0rz> Derek: I want to turn it off.. but I have no clue which program is doing it
[10:41] <Derek> z0rz: do you have any network sniffers?
[10:41] <lisapc> mneptok, hello, u here?
[10:41] <z0rz> Zenoss and iftop
[10:41] <z0rz> and maybe some other ones.. I forget what I installed
[10:41] <dilch> fnf, not yet. I'm just trying to get all the default programs to work nicely first
[10:42] <fnf> dilch: gstreamer (or any Linux MPs in existence) cannot play DRM-ed WMAs
[10:42] <nospi> anyone know any links to hacking guides?
[10:42] <lisapc> sometimes when I load Ubuntu i have sound, and sometimes I dont!  Instead of rebooting, can I do a command to fix sound?
[10:42] <nospi> im new to linux, want to learn to hack. not for any malicious purposes, it's just interesting and i want to learn
[10:42] <Derek> zorz: try disabling/uninstalling your network monitoring one at a time
[10:42] <dilch> fnf, yeah, these aren't DRMed
[10:43] <Rooy> nospi: very good read http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/
[10:43] <nospi> Rooy, thanks
[10:43] <Derek> one of them is probably being configured to record all packets
[10:43] <dilch> was easy enough to install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 to get mp3 working, anyway
[10:43] <Sp4rKy> odix: do you need more information about E ?
[10:43] <fnf> dilch: did you try it with mplayer ?. Can't all WMAs you have be played ?
[10:44] <HexDump> hi all!
[10:44] <z0rz> Is there a way to see what packages you have installed with apt-get ?
[10:44] <odix> sp4rky, im trying to run gnome+ E
[10:44] <odix> how can i do that?
[10:44] <nospi> Rooy, you're full of good information :)
[10:44] <rambo3> z0rz, use dpkg -L
[10:44] <nospi> Rooy, i found this, http://www.hetland.org/python/instant-hacking.php but it won't load
[10:44] <Rooy> nospi: :) just on a 8KB/s connection
[10:44] <rambo3> z0rz, use dpkg -l
[10:44] <lisapc> !seen mneptok
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen mneptok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <dilch> fnf, yes, i can play them in mplayer
[10:45] <z0rz> Thanks
[10:45] <nospi> Rooy,  :O 8kb/s ??
[10:45] <Rooy> nospi: and gonna be cut altogether soon
[10:45] <Derek> if you want to have fun, connect your computer directly to your modem, and see which computers are connected directly as well
[10:45] <Rooy> nospi: do you have previous programming experience?
[10:45] <Sp4rKy> odix: start gnome and then run "enlightenment_start" ?
[10:45] <odix> sp4rky ?
[10:45] <mneptok> was i summoned?
[10:46] <fnf> dilch: media format supports in Edgy is pretty clunky compared to Feisty, but WMA is entirely possible, can you pastebin all the gstreamer packages you have installed ?
[10:46] <Sp4rKy> odix: i think if you do that, E wm will override the Gnome wm
[10:46] <nospi> Rooy, sort of. i sort of dabbled in C++ but i get bored easily. gave up on that. i've tried a lot, visual basic, C, C++
[10:46] <nospi> Rooy, now that i think about it that's only 3
[10:46] <dilch> fnf, well i'm just installing ffmeg now, so i'll tell you how that works out
[10:46] <Derek> Zorz: Zenoss has a reporting log of Change History of packets, it could be that its recording all changes on your network
[10:46] <odix> command not found
[10:47] <fnf> dilch: all -good/bad/ugly and their -multiverse counterpart should be installed. You'll no longer have to worry about playing any of them.
[10:47] <Derek> ew.. C++
[10:47] <Rooy> nospi: ah then, i think there's Dive Into Python installed on your Ubuntu, it's a good book for not-so-new people to Python
[10:47] <dilch> fnf, it's taking a while - have massive packet loss to the US today
[10:47] <nospi> Rooy, i know lots of web scripting languages though, HTML, CSS, JS, little bit of PHP
[10:47] <HexDump> I want to delete a user in ubuntu. I have connected with it before through putty, and now when I use deluser it complains about it is being logged in (another session?). Is there anyway to kill (make logout) this user from a root account?
[10:47] <nospi> Rooy, ok, i'll check it out
[10:47] <z0rz> Derek: Problem is, I can't even find that in dpkg -l
[10:47] <Derek> what use is a non-object oriented language?
[10:48] <odix> hexdump..ya
[10:48] <lisapc> mneptok, yes :)
[10:48] <fdsasdf> ive turned the wireless key to WEP and it still wont connect. so i turned it off and STILL it wont connect WTF
[10:48] <dilch> Derek, yeah, because C is so unuseful ...
[10:48] <Ribs> HexDump, ps -u username
[10:48] <Derek> Zorz: no clue dude
[10:48] <Ribs> HexDump, then kill those processes
[10:48] <Rooy> nospi: having a book pre-installed by ubuntu gives a big win for the language to me
[10:48] <mneptok> HexDump: "ps aux | grep $username" and "kill -9 $pid" all their processes
[10:48] <fnf> dilch: take your time. Btw, Feisty is in a stable state to use daily. My uptime is 7 days without a hitch now.
[10:48] <lisapc> mneptok, I typd that command u gave me to get sound working. modprobe -r snd-hda-intel ; sleep 10 && modprobe snd-hda-intel.  bit it says:  FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[10:48] <lisapc> mneptok, any solution please?
[10:49] <mneptok> lisapc: i don't recall that conversation
[10:49] <odix> its already working lisapc ?
[10:49] <Derek> dilch: I was joking, but as far as non-OS goes, what else would you use non-object oriented languages for?
[10:49] <nospi> Rooy, yeah, ubuntu recommends python to new programmers
[10:49] <dilch> nospi, a good way to start is to look at the metasploit packages, see how the exploits work and how to make payloads etc
[10:49] <HexDump> oh, ok. I thought it should be done troough a force switch in the deluser. Thanks agonna try it.
[10:49] <odix> or the i/o's are conflicting ? right ?
[10:49] <nospi> dilch, metasploit? where can i look at them?
[10:49] <z0rz> Derek: Zenoss isn't even listed in dpkg -l
[10:49] <lisapc> mneptok, yes! we talkeds about this 2 days ago.  U said instead of having to reboot, u gave me that command
[10:49] <Derek> Python is a great language, Id also recommend Ruby
[10:49] <fnf> Derek: There're several more programming idioms, not just OOP.
[10:49] <lisapc> mneptok, you said its due to speed of lading modules, maybe fixed in next version
[10:49] <Derek> fnf: /agree
[10:49] <dilch> fnf, heh, my best freebsd box uptime is 124 days ... have to reboot soon though ...
[10:50] <dilch> nospi, google it
[10:50] <ctrl_x> i have just partioned the 40 Gb HDD 20 Gb for win98 Se and 20 Gb for Ubuntu but ubuntu wont install in 20 Gb
[10:50] <ctrl_x> any help
[10:50] <nospi> dilch, ok, thanks, i'll check em out
[10:50] <odix> ubuntu will install in 3
[10:50] <lisapc> mneptok, but when I type that command you gave me, it says:  FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[10:50] <mneptok> lisapc: could be. what isn't making sound?
[10:50] <Derek> haha, my prof programs in OpenBSD, its pretty hardcore :P
[10:50] <Pie-rate> why does xmms sound like garbage while rhythmbox works fine?
[10:50] <Rooy> all: and there's also http://stackless.com
[10:50] <lisapc> odix, yes it works!  but sometimes sound doesnt and I need to aleays reboot
[10:50] <gago0021> hello, what are the things needed to setup a file and mail server running on ubuntu with gui?
[10:50] <fdsasdf> WHY DOES UBUNTU HATE MEEE
[10:50] <lisapc> mneptok, nothing is making sound
[10:50] <Derek> develops*
[10:50] <dilch> der0b, dunno, to be cool and use COBOL? ;)
[10:50] <lisapc> mneptok, dead silence
[10:50] <fnf> dilch: yeah, but anything more than 1 week uptime is considered suitable for desktop daily use, IMO.
[10:51] <odix> gago, imap..
[10:51] <dilch> Derek, i use OpenBSD for my firewall box .. nice
[10:51] <ctrl_x> ubuntu creat partition where my win98se installed what i do???
[10:51] <c1|freaky> hi all. whats a good program which which i can find out which processes are using how much bandwidth?
[10:51] <odix> gago..and ftp server
[10:51] <Derek> dlich: paranoid are we?
[10:51] <lisapc> mneptok, will killall esd help?
[10:51] <dilch> fnf, yes, of course ... i just wanted to brag about uptime ;)
[10:51] <daya> how can i install ubuntu 6.06 in text mode
[10:51] <c1|freaky> console
[10:51] <z0rz> c1|freaky: use iftop
[10:51] <c1|freaky> ok, thx
[10:51] <odix> ctrl_x, if you didnt resize and create a new ext3 partition, your sol.
[10:51] <c1|freaky> iftop doesnt show the processes
[10:51] <lisapc> mneptok, or do I always need to keep rebooting to get sound back?
[10:52] <c1|freaky> only shows the destination and source
[10:52] <z0rz> c1|freaky: Yeah sorry I didn't read the full question
[10:52] <fnf> dilch: you beat me to it :p the longest I've had is around 60 days.
[10:52] <gago0021> odix: are there references where i can know of the steps in setting up one?
[10:52] <z0rz> c1|freaky: Yeah, I'm not sure on that one
[10:52] <c1|freaky> ok thx
[10:52] <z0rz> c1|freaky: I'd kinda like a progrma liek that too
[10:52] <ctrl_x> odix, what  didnt get you
[10:52] <xipietotec> anyone have any idea why I'm getting this? http://rafb.net/p/FGekbp42.html
[10:52] <c1|freaky> i know there is one i just can't remember its name
[10:52] <odix> gago, yes, and ubuntu will help make this easy
[10:52] <z0rz> c1|freaky: Wouldn't netstat do that?
[10:52] <Derek> So apparently if you change the date of Vista to 2099 on install, your OS won't ask for activation till then
[10:52] <mneptok> lisapc: what are you using that uses ESD?
[10:53] <peterbe> Why doesn't this work?:  if [ `date +%M` > 30 ] ; then
[10:53] <ctrl_x> odix, firstly i partition my hdd
[10:53] <dilch> fnf, ok, ffmpeg didn't do it, so i'll install the rest of the gstreamer plugins and see how I go. I should just stick with xmms (which i usually use) but i really want to get it working in Ryhthmbox for once :)
[10:53] <odix> ctrl_x, the question is what didnt YOU get.
[10:53] <peterbe> I get the same result with: if [ `date +%M` < 30 ] ; then
[10:53] <lisapc> mneptok, using nothing atm
[10:53] <dilch> fnf, heh we have a solaris box at work that has been up for almost 3 years .. i kid not
[10:53] <ctrl_x> odix, what u sais above
[10:53] <fnf> dilch: and the convenient preview feature of nautilus.
[10:53] <ctrl_x> odix, what u said above
[10:53] <odix> ctrl_x, you partition right, 20 gb ntfs 20 gb ext 3 ?
[10:54] <mneptok> lisapc: any ESD or OSS app is going to exclusively lock the sound for its own use. ALSA does not.
[10:54] <odix> or does 98se still use fat32? whatever...
[10:54] <ctrl_x> odix, i used Fdisk to creat part for win 98 20 Gb
[10:54] <lisapc> mneptok, but why does sound work 90% of the time I boot?
[10:54] <c1|freaky> no it also doesnt list the processes
[10:54] <Derek> ok, burning ISO alternate disk image, /crosses-fingers
[10:54] <ctrl_x> odix, another 20Gb didnt formatted
[10:54] <odix> ctrl_x you have to format it
[10:54] <fnf> dilch: not really extraordinary for a real server, but I have a laptop. 60 days without kernel updates is not quite good.
[10:54] <lkthomas> guys, how could I tell where to save the fax on hylafax server ?
[10:54] <fdsasdf> do i defanetly need more than just the .deb file to install network manager?
[10:54] <odix> partition magic man
[10:54] <mneptok> lisapc: because you haven't used an ESD/OSS app at that point
[10:54] <ctrl_x> odix, after that i installed ubuntu
[10:54] <dilch> fnf, exactly
[10:55] <dilch> fnf, that's why the freebsd server is getting rebooted soon
[10:55] <ctrl_x> odix, but it was installed in win98 part creating new part there
[10:55] <Derek> ctrl_X why install 98?
[10:55] <jdr_> !wpa
[10:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:55] <ctrl_x> odix, i wanna use dual boot
[10:55] <ctrl_x> Derek, dual boot is not good
[10:56] <odix> ctrl_x, lol, del your ubuntu files on that partition, use the live cd, run gparted, format your unused 20gb to ext3, then install ubuntu on that
[10:56] <odix> whats wrong with dual boot
[10:56] <lisapc> mneptok, so whats my solution?  I just keep rebooting Edgy until sound works again?
[10:56] <ctrl_x> odix, what???
[10:56] <mneptok> lisapc: don't use ESD/OSS apps
[10:56] <ceu> www.dell.com/linuxsurvey vote for ubuntu! (old link? :-))
[10:56] <Lice> I think i've found a security issue with TOP...
[10:56] <ctrl_x> odix, sorry i am new in ubuntu
[10:56] <mneptok> lisapc: or accept that once you do, no more sound until a reboot.
[10:57] <Lice> if you press d then write 0.000000000000001 it uses the whole cpu power :S
[10:57] <wolfgang_> hi
[10:57] <odix> so your saying ubuntu installed on your win98 partition, so when you boot win98 can you see your ubuntu files ?
[10:57] <HexDump> well, no way to delete the user :). It seems no user "test" (the name of the user) is having any process running, but cant delete it
[10:57] <lisapc> mneptok, what ESD/OSS apps would I be using?
[10:57] <Derek> Lice, whats that?
[10:57] <Lice> whats what?
[10:57] <ctrl_x> odix, So what i do for dual boot
[10:57] <Derek> issue with TOp
[10:57] <lisapc> mneptok, 90% of the time I hear the sound at login screen
[10:57] <mneptok> lisapc: sorry, just sent the crystal ball out for a wak and polish ;)
[10:57] <odix> ctrl_x, bro, come on
[10:57] <wolfgang_> can someone answer me a short question about webalizer and apache2?
[10:58] <lisapc> mneptok, and 10% nothing
[10:58] <mneptok> *wax
[10:58] <odix> ctrl_x, put the cd in and install it on your emtpy 20 gigs, ubuntu will do the rest.
[10:58] <Lice> Derek you can make it check the processes every nano second..
[10:58] <dilch> actually, I just made a decision. I'm going to delete these few wma files I have and download the songs in mp3
[10:58] <lisapc> mneptok, so whats my solution?  just reboot everytime I dont have sound?
[10:58] <dilch> fight the power!
[10:58] <odix> trust in it!!!!
[10:58] <Lice> Derek and it uses the whole cpu power to..gonan create a account with no rights to see if i can do it
[10:58] <ctrl_x> odix, i have live CD, it took me to desktop
[10:58] <mneptok> lisapc: start looking in the BIOS. what happens on a cold boot? from a Windows restart?
[10:59] <odix> ctrl_x click install unbuntu!!!
[10:59] <wolfgang_> can someone answer me a short question about webalizer and apache2?
[10:59] <ctrl_x> odix, ya i did after that it install live, then there is install icon created on desktop
[10:59] <lisapc> mneptok, cold boot, straight into Ubuntu
[10:59] <lisapc> anyway, ill reboot
[10:59] <lisapc> brb
[10:59] <odix> lol
[10:59] <odix> ctrl_x, click install on desktop
[11:00] <Derek> Lice, haha nice
[11:00] <ctrl_x> odix, when i run it 3 options come
[11:00] <odix> ctrl_x...ok...what are they
[11:00] <Lice> Derek :(
[11:00] <odix> this is the last one for the night
[11:00] <Derek> Lice, go exploit it
[11:00] <ctrl_x> odix, format whole 40 gb,
[11:00] <ctrl_x> odix, creat a part
[11:00] <Lice> Derek i only got a account on my own server :P
[11:01] <Derek> Lice, haha how many people join your server?
[11:01] <odix> ctrl_x is there one big 40gb drive on the screen or one 20gb windows /dev/hda1 and one 20gb emtpy one
[11:01] <Lice> Derek its my own XD
[11:01] <ctrl_x> odix, yes yes 20Gb fat
[11:02] <ctrl_x> odix, and another 20 Gb unpart
[11:02] <odix> click on the empy 20gb thats not formatited
[11:02] <Derek> how come people cannot see when i type /msg "blah"
[11:02] <Lice> you gotta chose what channel derek
[11:02] <c0nv1ct> Derek: you probably need to register with nickserv
[11:02] <odix> click format to ext3 or installl ubuntu on this partition
[11:02] <ctrl_x> odix, when i try to use it, ubuntu install on win98
[11:02] <odix> no...
[11:02] <odix> it wont
[11:02] <Lice> Derek if you write /msg blah you write to blah
[11:02] <lisapc> mneptok, ok i rebooted and now sound is working! it seems whenever I do a cold boot sound doesnt work
[11:02] <Lice> Derek and not to the channel
[11:02] <ctrl_x> odix, creating part there
[11:03] <fdsasdf> do i defanetly need more than just the .deb file to install network manager?
[11:03] <Derek> what if i go /msg Lice "words"
[11:03] <Lice> Derek i think :p
[11:03] <mneptok> lisapc: you just did a cold boot. and sound is working.
[11:03] <lisapc> mneptok, no
[11:03] <odix> good, good, make it an ext3 and click no when it asks for a swap drive
[11:03] <Lice> Derek you gotta auth with nickserv :p
[11:03] <Derek> conv1ct, how do you register?
[11:03] <djsmacedo> how to do live streaming video?
[11:03] <ctrl_x> oh i have to again reinstall
[11:03] <mneptok> !register > Derek
[11:03] <lisapc> mneptok, cold boot is the first boot from powering on PC.  warm boot is second or more reboots after inital boot :)
[11:03] <odix> yes
[11:03] <Derek> !register > Derek
[11:03] <odix> ctrl_x a livecd is never really installed bro
[11:04] <lisapc> mneptok, all I know is that when I first turn on my PC sound never works!, but then I reboot and it works :P
[11:04] <odix> thats why its a livecd...but now you can install ubuntu to your hd OFF the livecd
[11:04] <ctrl_x> odix, i know that,
[11:04] <TimothyP> Hello, sinds today's (or yesterday's) update on feisty 7.04 to xserver-xorg , nvidia-glx isn't working anymore, so I'm stuck with the "nv" driver again instead of "nvidia". Who can help me ? (also compiling the latest nvidia kernel module doesn't work ...)
[11:04] <mneptok> lisapc: 05:59 < lisapc> mneptok, cold boot, straight into Ubuntu
[11:04] <odix> lisapc is it when you boot from windows to ubuntu ?
[11:04] <mneptok> lisapc: so that was a lie, or .... ;)
[11:05] <odix> cause windows could lock up your card...i/o errors
[11:05] <lisapc> odix, my PC is OFF. And then I turn power on and boot straight into Ubuntu, but sound never works!  I aleays have to reboot
[11:05] <mneptok> TimothyP: /join #ubuntu+1 for Feisty questions
[11:05] <TimothyP> ok thank you :)
[11:05] <HexDump> any help here? cant find any user running any process with name "test" running ps -u test | grep test or ps -aux | grep test but cant delete the user because linux says it is logged in . Damn computer :).
[11:05] <lisapc> mneptok, no, its just your listening skills need polishing ;) heh
[11:05] <TimothyP> original name btw :)
[11:05] <mneptok> HexDump: ps aux | grep test
[11:05] <HexDump> mneptok: same mate, I tried both
[11:05] <lisapc> mneptok, my very FIRST boot
[11:06] <mneptok> lisapc: your BIOS is the problem
[11:06] <HexDump> mneptok: only the grep process is shown
[11:06] <lisapc> mneptok, LOL! no. its ubuntu problem
[11:06] <lisapc> mneptok, never have this problem with other OS on my PC
[11:06] <fdsasdf> can osmeone please tell me how i can get network manager on windows. stick it on a usb drive. and then put it on ubuntu. is it possible?
[11:06] <lisapc> mneptok,  knoppix has sound, Vista has sound.  but Edgy doesnt
[11:06] <mneptok> HexDump: sudo userdel -rf test
[11:06] <Derek> .
[11:06] <odix> fdsasdf you know itsp ossible
[11:06] <lisapc> mneptok, i doubt its BIOS problem ;)
[11:07] <Derek> .
[11:07] <odix> download all the deps
[11:07] <odix> ctrl_x you got it buddy ?|
[11:07] <mneptok> lisapc: OK, you know better than i do.
[11:07] <Vigenere> .
[11:07] <lisapc> mneptok, yes I do :) hehe ;)
[11:07] <Vigenere> !register > Vigenere
[11:07] <fdsasdf> odix: but from where? ive searched archive.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <lisapc> mneptok, but seriously, u cant blame this on my BIOS when sound works in other OS
[11:07] <HexDump> mneptok: this worked. Why didnt it showed any test process before?
[11:08] <odix> fdsasdf extract an iso of a disc image with all the packages onto a usb
[11:08] <crdlb> Vigenere, are you reading the pm from ubotu?
[11:08] <Vigenere> crdlb Im sorry?
[11:08] <Vigenere> aka Derek btw
[11:09] <djsmacedo> how to do live streaming video?
[11:09] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone please tell me how can I force xorg to use a refresh rate and resolution ,it`s killing my eyes
[11:09] <odix> search on google djs
[11:09] <fdsasdf> odix: i cant find the packages, i can only find the .deb file of it
[11:09] <crdlb> Vigenere, that command makes the bot send you a message telling you how to register
[11:09] <djsmacedo> odix: i'm googling...
[11:09] <odix> djdarkman its in desktop settings
[11:09] <mneptok> lisapc: using your logic, since i can breathe on a mountain, and i can breathe in a valley, the fact i cannot breathe underwater is because water is broken, and it has nothing to do with my lungs.
[11:09] <Vigenere> Yes, im trying to register this name
[11:09] <djsmacedo> odix: but i need some opinion
[11:10] <odix> fdsasdf, isn't there some package DVD or cd with ubuntu like mandriva ?
[11:10] <fdsasdf> odix: i may have found them
[11:10] <lisapc> mneptok, so why does it always work when I first boot into other OS?
[11:10] <DjDarkman> odix system settings writes only trash to the xorg.conf
[11:10] <Vigenere> As for the issue with Ubutnu and Desktop X, it seems downloading the alternate version was the solution
[11:10] <fdsasdf> odix: ive got the ubuntu install disc?
[11:10] <DjDarkman> and it overwrites everthing else
[11:10] <odix> no no ...
[11:10] <c1|freaky> iptraf is a really good tool to monitor bandwidth usage! :)
[11:10] <nospi> how do i install this metasploit framework?
[11:11] <mneptok> lisapc: because tho other OSes anticipate a broken BIOS or have crufty workarounds?
[11:11] <odix> vigenere = derek ?
[11:11] <crdlb> Vigenere, you need to type: /msg nickserv register Vigenere password
[11:11] <nospi> it gave me a tar.gz file which i extracted to my desktop, and now i have a framework-3.0-beta-3 folder
[11:11] <kontingenz> someone using BIBUS? I try to import my endnote_Database
[11:11] <fdsasdf> odix: would i download these fikles? http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/network-manager
[11:11] <mneptok> fdsasdf: NO
[11:11] <nospi> what folder do i put it in?
[11:11] <mneptok> fdsasdf: ONE LAST IME. you CANNOT DOWNLOAD .debs!
[11:12] <odix> lol
[11:12] <lisapc> mneptok, wow, they are indeed clever to have that anticipation.
[11:12] <razzorz> G'day all ....
[11:12] <fdsasdf> mneptok, well i did
[11:12] <TimothyP> that is that the Nashuatec DSm765 printer doesn't work anymore (CUPS) , I tried on multiple versions and clean installs, ubuntu 5.10 did not have this problem
[11:12] <lisapc> mneptok, but thanks for your help. its ok. Ill just keep rebooting to get sound.
[11:12] <TimothyP> I mean I have problem :)
[11:12] <lisapc> mneptok, its only 1 reboot
[11:12] <mneptok> fdsasdf: and n-m-g is going to crap itself 6 ways and never work. have fun.p
[11:13] <fdsasdf> is there another way to get wpa to work?
[11:13] <odix> does ubuntu offer packages cds like mandriva ?
[11:13] <razzorz> needs some help with my mp3/dvd playback
[11:13] <mneptok> fdsasdf: you can't grab random .deb files for *another distro* and expect them to work on Ubuntu
[11:13] <gago0021> what is keroberos?
[11:13] <odix> what are fig newtons ?
[11:13] <stork> i suggest ubuntu should have means for naming USB devices, instead of just 'usbdisk-1' and such...
[11:13] <rootpt> google it
[11:13] <Duffman> its a key managment sustem
[11:14] <odix> !ubuntu | fig newtowns
[11:14] <ubotu> fig newtowns: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[11:14] <odix> oo...
[11:14] <razzorz> anyone... got a min or so?
[11:14] <apokryphos> !ask
[11:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:15] <lisapc> mneptok, I appeciate your help though. thanks
[11:15] <mneptok> odix: playing with the bots on this channel is a good way to join the Fedora community
[11:15] <odix> hey i got a challenge....i challenge anyone in here to find a gtk live poker client
[11:15] <DjDarkman> ohhh man is there no solution make xorg use the 1024x768@85Hz mode? does it have a mind of it`s own?
[11:15] <Vigenere> fdsad what do you mean about is there another way to get WPA to work?
[11:15] <odix> lol
[11:15] <razzorz> help with codecs ... .. anyone?
[11:15] <gago0021> what would be the best firewall for ubuntu?
[11:15] <odix> people are so uptight ;] 
[11:15] <CactusWiZaRd> razzorz: use vlc
[11:16] <razzorz> do tell...
[11:16] <razzorz> what is VIC?
[11:16] <lisapc> whats a good ftp client?  gftp ok?
[11:16] <odix> vlc
[11:16] <fdsasdf> no wonder people prefer windows
[11:16] <Vigenere> gago get Guarddog
[11:17] <razzorz> i really don't like windows.. once i am set up.
[11:17] <odix> fdsasdf..i dont. the only thing good about windows is direct3d and game support
[11:17] <razzorz> now ... about that codec's
[11:17] <razzorz> Cact: what is vic?
[11:17] <Vigenere> Windows is only good because all game developers, develop their games for Windows
[11:17] <odix> razzorz open up synaptics enable reposits search vlc media and install the plugins
[11:17] <fdsasdf> odix and how you can install something by double clickking  on it instead of compiling it from the source ect.
[11:17] <lisapc> odix, vlc?
[11:17] <mneptok> fdsasdf: you can esaily configure WPA without n-m-g if you'll just do some reading
[11:18] <Frogzoo> !appdb | odix
[11:18] <ubotu> odix: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:18] <mneptok> fdsasdf: or use WEP to get n-m-g
[11:18] <mneptok> fdsasdf: or turn off encryption to get n-m-g
[11:18] <fdsasdf> mneptok i did, it didnt work
[11:18] <odix> frogzoo...ya ya...wine supports direct3d....but come on....it still sucks compared to windows.
[11:18] <mneptok> fdsasdf: 3 solutions. all of them do-able. what's the problem?
[11:18] <Vigenere> ftp, try fugu
[11:18] <Rooy> mneptok: disable n-m-g to get encryption?
[11:19] <fdsasdf> ill try wep again
[11:19] <mneptok> Rooy: read again. you got it backwards.
[11:19] <Vigenere> why do you want encryption?
[11:19] <razzorz> odix :dont see Vic media
[11:19] <odix> is that a legitimate question?
[11:19] <Vigenere> fdsasdf, are you trying to encrypt your router?
[11:19] <mneptok> Vigenere: Fugu? for FTP? on Linux?
[11:19] <Rooy> mneptok: i mean encryption is better than nm, i did that
[11:19] <odix> razzorz for the 40th time v L c
[11:20] <fdsasdf> vigenere, no,
[11:20] <odix> L as in i LOVE fig newtons
[11:20] <fdsasdf> vigenere, im trying to get netowrk manager
[11:20] <Vigenere> mneptok, sorry fugu, may be OSX only
[11:20] <razzorz> well it was the 3rd time and ya.. the  caps help
[11:20] <DjDarkman> have you ever used a 17" crt monitor at 50Hz and 1024x768?
[11:20] <ahmet_kool> i consider it a delicacy to eat out the kunt of a menstruating babe
[11:20] <odix> fdsasdf whats so good about gnome network manager
[11:20] <mneptok> Vigenere: not "may." "definitely is" ;)
[11:21] <fdsasdf> odix: IT HAS WPA
[11:21] <ahmet_kool> im lebonese
[11:21] <ComboKiller> join #ubuntu-pl
[11:21] <Vigenere> mneptok use Kasablanca for linux ftp
[11:21] <ComboKiller> #j ubuntu-pl
[11:21] <odix> fdsa...ok...and thats the only way you can get wpa ?
[11:21] <ComboKiller> #j #ubuntu-pl
[11:21] <mneptok> Vigenere: i stopped using FTP in 1997
[11:21] <colo_work> isn't there a way to manually create missing locales on ubuntu?
[11:21] <fdsasdf> odix, i dunno
[11:21] <odix> fdsa, lol
[11:21] <ComboKiller> #ubuntu-pl join
[11:21] <fdsasdf> odix, i said im a linux noob
[11:21] <mneptok> fdsasdf: WPA is installed right now
[11:22] <Vigenere> fdsasdk, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Network_Manager_with_WPA
[11:22] <fdsasdf> wpasupplicant yada yada didnt work
[11:22] <mneptok> fdsasdf: you can make a WPA connection withoun installing anything
[11:22] <yasi8h> when i startup my computer in ubuntu, i can play all the video and music files... but after sometime it all stops playing in all the players i have... no music and no video.. in totem if i try to play a movie the first few seconds of the movie gets played but then tottem freezes.. any help on this?
[11:22] <Gilgamesh34> hello
[11:23] <Gilgamesh34> can someone help me with my sound problem
[11:23] <Vigenere> fdsasdk, hope that helps.
[11:23] <odix> fdsasdf your trying to connect to someone with wpa or be an access point ?
[11:23] <fdsasdf> some people dont gt it. if your tring to get wpa too work on ubuntu. it prbably means that they dont have access to the internet. so they cant donwload nmg
[11:23] <fdsasdf> odix: im trying to connect to the internet
[11:23] <odix> wpa is already on your system bro
[11:23] <Gilgamesh34> so can anyone help?
[11:23] <Gilgamesh34> anyone
[11:24] <fdsasdf> odix, how do i get it to work thwen?
[11:24] <odix> fdsasdf, download a wifi manager ?
[11:24] <fdsasdf> like network manager gnome?
[11:24] <DjDarkman> man thanks for the help I hope one day you will all get into the same situation as I am in right now ,and feel how a crt monitor can harm your eyes if that damm xorg doesn`t want to use the correct refresh rates
[11:24] <odix> no no...
[11:24] <odix> goto system>admin>networking
[11:24] <Gilgamesh34> for the sound to work it says that u need a sound card
[11:24] <Vigenere> fdsasdf, Select the Connections tab. Select the Ethernet connection interface from the list, then click the Properties button. Ensure that the button marked Enable this connection is checked. From the Configuration drop-list select DHCP/Static IP address, then click OK.
[11:24] <Vigenere> Select the DNS tab add or delete DNS Servers in the DNS Servers list.
[11:25] <Gilgamesh34> but isn't the soundcard that thing where ur phone jack and everything is
[11:25] <lovers> #j / join
[11:25] <Captain_Redbeard> Quick question... What lib does wine use to provide itself with internet capabilities? I'm having issues with programs under wine (running on amd64) won't connect to anything
[11:25] <lovers> #j /jakarta
[11:25] <fdsasdf> brb
[11:25] <odix> fdsasdf, lol.
[11:25] <odix> fdsasdf, 2 hours for that
[11:25] <razzorz> odix: for the vlc- do i need all the plugins?
[11:26] <vignesh> Hi
[11:26] <odix> razzorz, might as well just get all of them to play all formats it support
[11:26] <vignesh> I have an Intel 946GZ mobo and it has Sigmatel Audio
[11:26] <Gilgamesh34> sup vig
[11:26] <vignesh> How do I enable the mic.. Even in windows I have to open the Sigmatel control and make the port to act as the mic port.. How do I do that in Fedora 6 ?
[11:26] <razzorz> odix: no harm will come about
[11:26] <razzorz> lol
[11:26] <odix> would you rather have the lips? or the whole package
[11:26] <dilch> vignesh, nice question for an ubuntu channel ...
[11:26] <yellow_chicken> which is the latest test release for 7.04?
[11:26] <odix> naaa....only unless ubuntu is out to get you
[11:26] <razzorz> Lips are good
[11:26] <vignesh> sorry I mean ubuntu
[11:26] <razzorz> but only one hole.. so ya.. the whole thing will do
[11:27] <cypherdelic> vignesh: alsamixer, then allocate LINE and MIC with <SPACE>
[11:27] <odix> lips are good....but its whats between them that counts
[11:27] <odix> haha ;p
[11:27] <robby> anyone know how to get a yahoo radio station to work in ubuntu?
[11:27] <fdsasdf> vignere, i want wireless, how will that help? and there weren't any dns servers anyway
[11:28] <odix> fdsasdf type in your wireless server name of your network under networking
[11:28] <vignesh> cypherdelic: Its not present
[11:28] <fdsasdf> er ok
[11:28] <cypherdelic> vignesh: what alsamixer or the MIC tab?
[11:28] <odix> goto properties, type in the password, use automatic dhcp, click apply or close or whatever
[11:28] <vignesh> MIC
[11:28] <vignesh> I only get master..
[11:28] <odix> if that does not work your wireless is not setup right.
[11:28] <yasi8h_>  /msg nickserv link yasi8h cvxs452
[11:28] <cypherdelic> vignesh: then i have no clue
[11:28] <robby> anyone know how to get a yahoo radio station to work in ubuntu? anyone at all?
[11:28] <odix> ahhh!
[11:29] <odix> yasi whats your email ?
[11:29] <odix> robby have you tried streaming software ?
[11:29] <yasi8h_> :)
[11:29] <vignesh> I tried enabling pcm but even If I have ocm muted sound comes.. only the master control works
[11:29] <yasi8h_> shit
[11:29] <robby> odix: such as?
[11:29] <odix> rhythmbox
[11:29] <Vigenere> fads in your terminal type sudo iwconfig
[11:29] <vignesh> anyone using a Intel 946GZ board ?
[11:30] <robby> yeah but i cant find my radiostations address
[11:30] <fdsasdf> odix: i already have
[11:30] <robby> ive been googling it for a while
[11:30] <robby> but cant seem to find anything
[11:30] <odix> fdsasdf already have what ?
[11:30] <razzorz> odix: now that there d/l and installed.. still can't play mp3;s
[11:30] <Daedr> hi1
[11:30] <fdsasdf> odix put the name of my wireles network in
[11:30] <Vigenere> fdsasdf did you run "sudo iwconfig"
[11:30] <odix> razzorz install xmms for mp3's
[11:30] <carl__> Quick question... What lib does wine use to provide itself with internet capabilities? I'm having issues with programs under wine (running on amd64) won't connect to anything
[11:30] <fdsasdf> no
[11:30] <razzorz> kk ty
[11:30] <fdsasdf> im a noob too linux
[11:30] <odix> fdsasdf then click properties and put the password in
[11:30] <fdsasdf> what does that do?
[11:31] <fdsasdf> odix: i have
[11:31] <robby> odix: yeah but i cant find my radiostations address
[11:31] <odix> robby, thats yahoos or your problem
[11:31] <robby> odix, is there a way to find it?
[11:31] <chuck`_> I've installed pureftpd on this box and apparently there's a user that matches my login name and password and basically has root access to the entire computer... I'm not sure I feel very secure with that but it's not listed in the pure-ftpd users list in PureAdmin so I don't know how to remove it or why it's there.  Anyone know how i can do this?  or at least reassure me that this "root" user can only be logged into on the intranet?
[11:31] <jammer> hi to all
[11:32] <Xif> I'm having trouble capturing audio with my Mic
[11:32] <mov> which configuration file should I use for setting /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu* parameters at startup/wakeup?
[11:32] <razzorz> hey thanks Odix:... mp3's work
[11:32] <odix> fdasdf so you click wireless conn, clicked properties, put in the NAME OF YOUR WIFI POINT not your name and put in the password, making sure password type is under ASCII
[11:32] <odix> razzorz..np
[11:33] <Xif> Is there a troubleshooting-guide for getting my microhpone working on Ubuntu?
[11:33] <ochosi> very general question: how much does a stronger graphic chip help with video playback? (cause now my old pcs processor is running at 100% but the video is not 100% smooth)
[11:33] <mneptok> Xif: alsamixer
[11:33] <odix> then automatic config on the other setting
[11:33] <mneptok> Xif: then un-mute the mic
[11:33] <Xif> mneptok: I tried it.
[11:33] <ochosi> Xif what kind of soundcard do you use?
[11:33] <odix> then click OK then you should get a bar going back and forth trying to connect
[11:33] <Xif> ochosi: I'm not even sure. something by Intel.
[11:33] <_eMaX_> anyone here has a clear procedure on recompiling the kernel from the repositories' kernel source (which includes the ubuntu patches) so that one comes out with an exact copy of kernel and initramfs?
[11:33] <odix> then when it closes open up firefox and try a website
[11:33] <Xif> ochosi: how do I find out?
[11:34] <jammer> Someone ca help me? I need to make a desktop shortcut that lunch a .sh script: someone knows the right command to input into command line?
[11:34] <Xif> mneptok: I already followed http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_6.10_(Edgy_Eft)_on_a_ThinkPad_T60#Problem:_Microphone_doesn.27t_work
[11:34] <mneptok> Xif: lspci
[11:34] <ochosi> type in terminal lspci
[11:34] <yasi8h> .
[11:34] <Xif> mneptok, ochosi: Audio device: Intel Corporation HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[11:34] <odix> jammer, create a shortcut to the script
[11:34] <razzorz> ok odix: one down.. now what about dvd playback?
[11:34] <odix> jammer, right click on the script and click create link
[11:34] <odix> jammer, move the link to your desktop
[11:35] <odix> razzorz, open up synaptics, click search, then put in dvd and hit enter
[11:35] <ochosi> Xif so you've unmuted the mic-channel already means that you have this channel in your mixer, right?
[11:35] <Xif> ochosi: yup
[11:35] <Xif> ochosi: I can hear myself when "Analog Mix" is unmuted.
[11:35] <odix> razzorz, vlc plays dvd
[11:36] <odix> fdsadf where you at bro ?
[11:36] <ochosi> Xif wow, that's weird
[11:36] <ochosi> Xif you already had a look in the ubuntuforums.org?
[11:36] <Xif> where?
[11:36] <odix> whoever was asking about radio.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325107
[11:37] <ochosi> Xif ubuntuforums.org there should be some audio troubleshooting
[11:37] <denis> Hi. Is there a user-friendly way to change default settings for new users? (GNOME toolbars, menu items) Much better if I could create sort of "templates" with a bunch of settings predefined. (Dapper Drake)
[11:37] <fdsasdf> odix: ive put all the info, it doesnt work
[11:37] <odix> fdsasdf open up a terminal and type, sudo iwconfig
[11:37] <odix> pm me the results
[11:38] <fdsasdf> ok
[11:38] <mneptok> sudo iwconfig $interface all
[11:38] <odix> sudo wlanconfig eth0 destroy
[11:39] <stork> how do i mount network drives as root on login?
[11:39] <lkthomas> guys, I am working hylafax now, and it can't create chroot etc dir, anyone have idea why ?
[11:39] <odix> sudo wlanconfig eth0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode managed
[11:39] <odix> stork..edit /etc/fstab
[11:39] <AaronL> when you do "connect to server.." in the places menu, where are those entries stored as i'd like to edit them manually?
[11:39] <odix> sudo wlanconfig eth0 essid "your essid of the place your trying to connect to"
[11:39] <odix> ubuntu uses wlanconfig right ;p ?
[11:40] <stork> odix, can't mount network drives automatically with /etc/fstab
[11:40] <odix> stork? dunno. sorry, samba ?
[11:40] <denis> Hi. Is there a user-friendly way to change default settings for new users? (GNOME toolbars, menu items) Much better if I could create sort of "templates" with a bunch of settings predefined. (Dapper Drake)
[11:40] <mneptok> denis: please allow >3 minutes before repeating
[11:40] <jammer> odix: doesn't work!!!
[11:41] <odix> denis, edit gnome configuration and place the file in the correct spot corresponding with the users gnome
[11:41] <odix> jammer..what doesnt ?
[11:42] <denis> odix, I've mentioned "user-friendly" :)
[11:42] <Angelus> hello :) was wondering, is there a something that allows you to show the time on your desktop, like a big analogue clock. I've seen it on some web sites and it looks nice
[11:42] <odix> jammer...has to
[11:42] <yellow_chicken> how to check amount of swap memory?
[11:42] <mneptok> Angelus: gdesklets
[11:42] <colo_work> cat /proc/swaps
[11:42] <jammer> odix: is a .sh shellscript sqldeveloper.sh under /home/jammer/sqldeveloper dir... I've tried to make shortcut and then put it on my desktop of the same user.... but nothing to do it doesn't start.
[11:42] <colo_work> @ yellow_chicken
[11:42] <mneptok> yellow_chicken: free -h
[11:42] <fdsasdf> odix: it has detected my wireless thing but it wont connect
[11:42] <Frogzoo> yellow_chicken: swapon -s
[11:42] <razzorz> odix:great... dvd's mp3,  now how bout my quick cam ?
[11:43] <odix> razzorz, what am i, wiki ?
[11:43] <razzorz> not quite
[11:43] <odix> razzors, haha
[11:43] <razzorz> but getin closse
[11:43] <razzorz> lol
[11:43] <fdsasdf> odix: ive put in the   right essid and password, put it to automatic (DHCP)
[11:43] <Frogzoo> Angelus: gdesklets
[11:43] <razzorz> once i know never have to ask again RIGHT
[11:43] <jammer> odix: normally when I startt it with ./sqldeveloper.sh it works correctly... but nothing to do weither your method and shortcut wizard... I've Edgy
[11:43] <razzorz> lol
[11:43] <Angelus> cool thanks for your help!
[11:43] <odix> razzorz, open up, synaptics and make sure multiverse is enabled...search for webcam
[11:44] <odix> jammer, create a "launcher", with the ../path/to/your/.shfile
[11:44] <yellow_chicken> thanks
[11:44] <odix> right click on desktop, create launcher
[11:44] <fdsasdf> i think my wireless dongel may not support WEP im not sure
[11:45] <odix> of course it does
[11:45] <fdsasdf> then i have no idea why its not working
[11:45] <odix> i think your access point is not setup right
[11:45] <odix> wep has nothing to do with it, what kind of wireless card do you have ?
[11:45] <fdsasdf> lol
[11:45] <fdsasdf> i dont
[11:45] <razzorz> odix: dont see multiverse
[11:45] <denis> Is there a user-friendly way to change default settings for new users? (GNOME toolbars, menu items) Much better if I could create sort of "templates" with a bunch of settings predefined. (Dapper Drake)
[11:46] <fdsasdf> a cheap usb one
[11:46] <odix> razzorz under options in there
[11:46] <mneptok> denis: user friendly, no
[11:46] <odix> enable repositories(multiverse)
[11:46] <denis> mneptok: :(
[11:47] <mneptok> denis: because users should not be performing sysadmin tasks. and if you call yourself a sysadmin ten you shouldn't need a GUI. ;)
[11:47] <odix> haha!
[11:47] <razzorz> odix: properties or options?
[11:47] <odix> razzorz look around
[11:47] <mneptok> denis: but it's pretty easy to do
[11:47] <denis> I don't call myself sysadmin. It's just that I need to make this work.
[11:47] <odix> denis make  a shellscript for it
[11:47] <razzorz> what am i lookin for
[11:47] <denis> I mean, how can I set in the config, that the forecast icon on panel should be fourth from the right?
[11:48] <fdsasdf> odix: i have this wireless usb dongel
[11:48] <odix> fdsasdf, well, thats probably the problem
[11:48] <mneptok> denis: create a test account. configure GNOME *exactly* the way you want it. then move that user's GNOME env dotfiles to /etc/skel and chown to root.
[11:48] <odix> did you check if it was supported ?
[11:48] <fdsasdf> odix: it worked in feisty
[11:48] <kaapu> #ubuntu-se
[11:49] <denis> mneptok: now that sounds like a great and usable idea. where are Gnome dotfiles located? ~?
[11:49] <mneptok> denis: ~/
[11:49] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[11:49] <denis> mneptok: thank's, I'm gonna try it
[11:49] <jammer> odix: i've tried to make either program launcher and shell terminal launcher but only in second case it seems to start a shell but program starts and, without windows, close immediately... something else to try?
[11:50] <mneptok> denis: anything in /etc/skel gets added to a new user's ~/ when the account is created
[11:50] <nospi> Rooy, when im learning python, and it asks me to describe and explain what commands do, should i do it?
[11:50] <nospi> Rooy, i suck at programming languages :p
[11:50] <razzorz> odix:aka Wiki... i don't see multiverse
[11:50] <Rooy> nospi: what is "it"?
[11:50] <nospi> Rooy, oh, the How to think like a computer scientist ebook
[11:50] <odix> razzorz if you were next to me i might strangle you
[11:50] <Rooy> nospi: you know, learning is always about practice (learned that from vimtutor)
[11:51] <nospi> Rooy, yeah, i just wasn't sure if you wrote things down and it helped
[11:51] <nospi> Rooy, i've never really done it
[11:51] <jammer> odix: I've also tried to compose a command like "cd /absolute/path/; ./script.sh"
[11:51] <odix> settings>repositories
[11:51] <nospi> Rooy, i know im asking a lot of questions, and most of them i could answer myself, but im new to this
[11:51] <razzorz> well you know i have that effect on people..thats why i am so lovable..
[11:51] <odix> click multiverse
[11:52] <razzorz> where?...odix:
[11:52] <Rooy> nospi: yeah, I forgot that there's #python here, requires registered nickname
[11:52] <razzorz> dont see that to click it
[11:52] <nospi> Rooy, this is just so different, its hard to get out of the habit of doing things the windows way
[11:52] <nospi> Rooy, oh is there? i'll register my nick
[11:52] <odix> settings>repositories
[11:52] <nospi> Rooy, how do i do that? i forget
[11:52] <nospi> !nickserv
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <nospi> oops
[11:52] <Rooy> !register
[11:52] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:52] <nospi> Rooy, thanks
[11:53] <karakara> hi all, can anyone point me to a page on how to change window manager? im trying to get ion3 on
[11:53] <fdsasdf> if i can download the network-manager-gnome on linux, why can't i do it on windows and transfer it to ubuntu! ITT doent make sense
[11:53] <chuck`_> I've run into a strange issue with my httpd. it works fine when I input the LAN IP to this box into firefox, but when I try to view the website by putting in my WAN IP, firefox times out.  however, others who are not on my network can put my WAN IP into their web browsers and access my website with no issues.  Any clue why this happening?  "confusion" on the router's behalf?
[11:54] <Frogzoo> chuck`_: you can't ping the httpd's wan ip
[11:55] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: of course I can, it's the same IP as my other PC
[11:55] <[0`0] > Hi, i have ubuntu .. what it's the command for change the language interface?
[11:56] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: it's like the connection is blocked but only for computers on the network.  you can even try it yourself:  http://motiv.mine.nu/
[11:56] <holden> hello, does someone have problems updating libxine-main1?
[11:56] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: if I put that address into firefox, it times out.  if I use the LAN IP to the server, it works fine.  not really a _crippling_ issue, just odd. :o
[11:57] <Frogzoo> chuck`_: $5 says you can't ping the wan ip
[11:57] <fdsasdf> why doesn't ubuntu come with WPA wireless already installed? this is just  stupid
[11:57] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: Oh shit, wait
[11:57] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: I forgot I reenabled blocking of icmp requests =/
[11:57] <Seveas> fdsasdf, that's been fixed in feisty
[11:57] <Rooy> fdsasdf: windows xp needs driver for my card
[11:57] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: here's your $5.
[11:57] <chuck`_> :\
[11:58] <Frogzoo> heh
[11:58] <fdsasdf> seveas: i had feisty but no programs supported it, opera, beryl, wine
[11:58] <chuck`_> wait wtf
[11:58] <chuck`_> I didn't reenable it
[11:58] <Seveas> fdsasdf, that has nothing to do with WPA...
[11:58] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: give me my $5 back
[11:58] <Seveas> NOTHING
[11:58] <chuck`_> :O
[11:59] <fdsasdf> seveas: yes i know but what's the point in having feisty if nothing works on it, so i went back to edgy and now WPA doesnt wortk
[11:59] <Seveas> fdsasdf, apt-get intall network-manager-gnome (yes, using a wired connection)
[11:59] <chuck`_> WPA doesn't work for me either
[11:59] <Seveas> fdsasdf, beryl works fine on feist
[11:59] <Frogzoo> chuck`_: you can ping the wan ip, but you put the wan ip into the webbrowser & it times out?
[11:59] <chuck`_> connects fine to open networks, though
[11:59] <Seveas> don't know about wine/opera: don't use them
[12:00] <fdsasdf> seveas, I DONT HAVE A WIRED CONNECTION
[12:00] <Rooy> fdsasdf: confirm opera and wine on feisty 64bit
[12:00] <Seveas> !shout | fdsasdf
[12:00] <ubotu> fdsasdf: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:00] <[0`0] > Hi, i have ubuntu .. what it's the command for change the language interface?
[12:00] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: yes, correct
[12:00] <karakara> hi all, can anyone point me to a page on how to change window manager? im trying to get ion3 on
[12:00] <Rooy> fdsasdf: i meant they work
[12:00] <h1st0> [0`0] : System > Administration > language tools
[12:00] <Seveas> karakara, install the packages and choose ion3 in the login window
[12:00] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: 16 packets transmitted, 16 received, 0% packet loss, time 15001ms
[12:01] <h1st0> [0`0] : err Language support
[12:01] <[0`0] > h1st0, in command ?
[12:01] <fdsasdf> why cant i just download the network-manager-gnome on windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:01] <fdsasdf> pakcages
[12:01] <Seveas> fdsasdf, behave...
[12:01] <h1st0> [0`0] : You could apt-get install the packages I guess
[12:01] <chuck`_> Frogzoo: can ping it on both the server and my other box with no problem
[12:02] <[0`0] > h1st0, yes and next?
[12:02] <Rooy> fdsasdf: you can download package from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:02] <h1st0> [0`0] : what language are you looking for?
[12:02] <daya> how can i install ubuntu in text mode
[12:02] <daya> is there any method
[12:03] <h1st0> daya: use the alternate iso
[12:03] <anarchron> hey guys
[12:03] <anarchron> how do I restore /etc/fonts?
[12:03] <daya> h1st0, alternat iso , is it possible in 6.06 LTS
[12:03] <anarchron> i accidently deleted that folder
[12:03] <h1st0> daya: yes its on the download page.
[12:03] <h1st0> daya: under other installation options
[12:04] <fdsasdf> rooy: someone said i need depositorys for network-manager-gnome though
[12:04] <daya> h1st0, what parameter should i pass
[12:04] <Rooy> fdsasdf: you can download the individual deb files from there
[12:04] <h1st0> daya: with the alternate iso you don't need to pass a perameter its a text based installer
[12:04] <h1st0> [0`0] : what language are you looking for?  So I can give you the exact package name.
[12:04] <fdsasdf> rooy: do i just need the one then?
[12:05] <[0`0] > h1st0, english :|
[12:05] <Rooy> fdsasdf: i will check if you have to download any other dependency
[12:05] <fdsasdf> rooy: ty
[12:05] <[0`0] > h1st0 i installed in another language :(( i don't see
[12:05] <h1st0> [0`0] : sudo apt-get install language-pack-en language-pack-en-base
[12:06] <Rooy> fdsasdf: do you already have network-manager?
[12:06] <fdsasdf> rooy: no
[12:07] <h1st0> Rooy: I don't think he will install it because he thinks it only works iwth wireless connection.
[12:07] <h1st0> Rooy: atleast thats what I caught in passing.
[12:08] <anarchron> anyone?
[12:08] <daya> h1st0, I am not getting that option
[12:08] <h1st0> daya: On the download page?
[12:08] <daya> h1st0, it is only Other optins
[12:08] <Rooy> h1st0: i would just help him install n-m-g, i didn't know what's the prob either :)
[12:08] <deep> !ftpd
[12:08] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[12:08] <h1st0> daya: No you have to download a different CD you need the alternate install cd to do text mode.
[12:09] <daya> h1st0, ye, you are talking about the alternat CD
[12:09] <h1st0> daya: yes
[12:09] <Rooy> fdsasdf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/network-manager-gnome checkout what you are missing from the red dependency and download them too
[12:09] <daya> h1st0, it is not possible in normal cd we get
[12:09] <h1st0> daya: nope
[12:09] <h1st0> daya: or you could download the mini.iso
[12:09] <h1st0> daya: only 7mn
[12:09] <daya> h1st0, ok
[12:09] <h1st0> daya: err 7mb
[12:09] <fdsasdf> rooy: do i need all of those?
[12:10] <h1st0> daya: and it will do a netinstall downloading the packages as needed
[12:10] <daya> h1st0, normal ubuntu takes a long time to install, but i have experienced installing in safe mode is fast
[12:10] <Rooy> fdsasdf no, just open synaptic and mark n-m-g for install, it will tell you what it needs to download/install
[12:10] <h1st0> daya: Do you want a link for the mini.iso?
[12:10] <fdsasdf> synaptic?
[12:10] <Rooy> fdsasdf: you have to get those packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <daya> h1st0, ok sure
[12:11] <Rooy> fdsasdf: in System --> Administration --> Synaptic
[12:11] <fdsasdf> ok ty
[12:11] <fdsasdf> brb, my ubuntu pc is upstairs >>
[12:11] <Rooy> fdsasdf: the password it asks for is your user
[12:13] <h1st0> daya: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[12:13] <h1st0> daya: that would be for a dapper netinstall
[12:13] <Frogzoo> yeah chuck`_ it's not clear what's going on there, seems odd
[12:13] <[0`0] > h1st0, 10x
[12:14] <[0`0] > h1st0, i install this, how i change?
[12:14] <[0`0] > :|
[12:14] <h1st0> [0`0] : that I don't know perhaps someone else might.
[12:14] <h1st0> brb have to reboot
[12:14] <[0`0] > pff
[12:14] <[0`0] > 10x
[12:14] <[0`0] > How i change a language? i installed english: apt-get install language-pack-en language-pack-en-base
[12:15] <Xif> where where would I find a troubleshooting guide for non-working microphone?
[12:15] <[0`0] > next ? how i change language ! I have Espaniol and need change in english
[12:15] <Rooy> [0`0] : to change language, you have to logout and select the new language from there
[12:15] <Frogzoo> !enter | [0`0] 
[12:15] <ubotu> [0`0] : Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:15] <Rooy> [0`0] : i mean the login screen
[12:16] <[0`0] > Rooy i don't use interfaces! i use only mod text
[12:16] <Flonares> Rooy, KDE newbie
[12:16] <Flonares> ;)
[12:16] <Rooy> [0`0] : ah, ok
[12:17] <fdsasdf> rooy: i cant find network manager in there
[12:17] <razzorz> well then... how is everyone this fine day?
[12:17] <fredericthewise> not bad, not bad
[12:18] <razzorz> good stuff...
[12:18] <razzorz> hey maybe you can help me
[12:18] <razzorz> fred:
[12:18] <fredericthewise> yes
[12:18] <razzorz> ok this is my issue...
[12:18] <razzorz> on the bottom left when a program ie: amsn is loaded.. its sits there. like in windows...
[12:19] <wharf> Hi there, what was the channel name for ubuntu and xgl
[12:19] <nutterpc> to beer or not to beer, that is MY issue, lol :0
[12:19] <nutterpc> :P
[12:19] <wharf> and stuff..
[12:19] <razzorz> i mean bottom right.. but whatever
[12:19] <fredericthewise> ok
[12:19] <Rooy> anyone has an idea why network-manager isn't in fdsasdf's synaptic list?
[12:19] <razzorz> i removed something now i dont see whats loaded
[12:19] <Rooy> it's in main repo for me (feisty anyway)
[12:19] <razzorz> like amsn or whatnot
[12:19] <fredericthewise> ok i can help
[12:19] <razzorz> Yay
[12:19] <jussi01> Rooy, maybe sources arent correct?
[12:19] <razzorz> then i got a realy easy one for you
[12:20] <fredericthewise> right click on a clear bit of panel
[12:20] <fdsasdf> can someone give me a list of the depnedices needed for network manager gnome?
[12:20] <fredericthewise> then choose add to panel
[12:20] <wharf> is there a way i can do dist upgrage and upgrade my distro via the internet
[12:20] <razzorz> done
[12:20] <wharf> rahter then using a cd
[12:20] <fredericthewise> then add the window list applet
[12:20] <Rooy> jussi01: i doubt that, fdsasdf hasn't open synaptic before
[12:20] <razzorz> oh god thank you
[12:20] <razzorz> haha
[12:20] <Rooy> fdsasdf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/network-manager-gnome this page list all of the dependencies
[12:20] <fredericthewise> no problem
[12:21] <razzorz> ok here is the real easy one
[12:21] <mneptok> fdsasdf: libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.1), libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libavahi-client3 (>= 0.6.13), libavahi-common3 (>= 0.6.10), libavahi-glib1 (>= 0.6.12), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.15.0), libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.15.0), libc6 (>= 2.4-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libdbus-1-3, libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.71), libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.35) | libesd0 (>=
[12:21] <mneptok>  0.2.35), libfonconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2), libgnconf2-4 (>= 2.13.5), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.2.2), libglade2-0 (>= 1:2.5.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgnome-keyring0 (>= 0.5.2), libgnome2-0 (>= 2.14.1), libgnomecanvas2-0 (>= 2.11.1), libgnomeui-0 (>= 2.13.0), libgnomevfs2-0 (>= 2.15.90), libgnutls13 (>= 1.4.0-0), libgpg-error0 (>= 1.2), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.10.3), libhal1 (>= 0.5), libice6,
[12:21] <mneptok>  libjpeg62, libnmutil0, libnotify1 (>= 0.4.2), liborbit2 (>= 1:2.1a4.1), libpanel-applet2-0 (>= 2.16.1), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.5), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libpopt0 (>= 1.10), libselinux1 (>= 1.30), libsm6, libtasn1-3 (>= 0.3.4), libx11-6, libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxi6, libxinerama1, libxml2 (>= 2.6.26), libxrandr2, libxrender1, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), network-manager (= 0.6.3-2ubuntu6)
[12:21] <razzorz> how do i dissable this damn shift /backspace ( loging me out )
[12:21] <jussi01> !info network-manager-gnome edgy
[12:21] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[12:21] <mneptok> happy now?
[12:21] <fredericthewise> dunno
[12:21] <razzorz> DAMN
[12:21] <razzorz> lol
[12:21] <razzorz> i lied i knew it was not easy
[12:21] <fredericthewise> pull off the keys...
[12:22] <razzorz> keyboard shortcuts?
[12:22] <razzorz> ya not cool..
[12:22] <razzorz> $200 keyboard
[12:22] <razzorz> sheesh
[12:22] <fredericthewise> I just don't know i'm actually not an expert, just a user
[12:22] <h1st0> !enter > razzorz
[12:22] <fredericthewise> and i never tried to change that
[12:22] <razzorz> can anyone help me disable the shift backspace logout feature
[12:23] <razzorz> [04:22]  <ubotu> h1st0 wants you to know: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! ,<<<<<<<<<<<, hahaha
[12:23] <fredericthewise> ok
[12:23] <root_> hello guys, i've installed ubuntu and i've chosen "root" as my user name. but root is also the administrator name so i cannot log in. is that a bug?
[12:23] <Toma-> $200 for a keyboard?!
[12:23] <razzorz> yep...
[12:24] <razzorz> well a combo as well.. mouse and fingerprint scanner
[12:24] <Toma-> root_: its pretty silly of you to choose 'root'
[12:24] <heuer> yes
[12:24] <heuer> i'm a newbie
[12:24] <Toma-> heuer: re-install without using "root"
[12:24] <heuer> but is there any other way? or have I to reinstall?
[12:24] <razzorz> hehe try gettin a microsoft keyboard workin on here
[12:25] <razzorz> lol
[12:25] <h1st0> heuer: use admin instead of root or something
[12:25] <finalbeta> Toma-: that will help, but to me this is a bug.
[12:25] <heuer> ok. thanks.
[12:25] <h1st0> finalbeta: no its not
[12:25] <finalbeta> From the end users perspective it is.
[12:25] <Toma-> finalbeta: its a pretty dumb thing to do tho
[12:25] <razzorz> so any Non newbies here?
[12:25] <h1st0> But its not a bug.
[12:25] <jussi01> razzorz, what do you need?
[12:26] <finalbeta> Toma-: if the system doesn't want you to use root, it shouldn't let you, it's called input validation.
[12:26] <razzorz> to disable this shift / backspace loggin out
[12:26] <razzorz> sorry Juss:
[12:26] <heuer> yes, i think so, too. finalbeta
[12:26] <finalbeta> Dysfunctional input validation is a bug
[12:26] <Ng> h1st0: it very clearly is, he wasn't told not to do that by the installer and now can't login. Bug.
[12:27] <Toma-> i guess
[12:27] <finalbeta> Not guess, it is.
[12:27] <razzorz> thoughts jessi:
[12:27] <heuer> ok. thanks for your help. will reinstall the next hours / days.
[12:27] <Toma-> no need to get narky
[12:27] <jussi01> razzorz, stating the obvious, have you looked under system, preferences, keyboard shortcuts?
[12:27] <Ng> heuer: you should be able to fix it, if you reboot into recovery mode you can make yourself a user
[12:27] <razzorz> yes... and it is dissabled
[12:27] <jussi01> !patience | razzorz
[12:27] <ubotu> razzorz: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:27] <raxip> sup
[12:28] <razzorz> my gawd eveyone is on me today lol
[12:28] <Ng> heuer: it shouldn't ask you for a password for recovery mode, but if it does it'll be the one you entered for your "root" user during the install, then just do "adduser heuer" (or some other username) and it'll ask you to choose a password. Then run "reboot" and you should be ok
[12:28] <h1st0> razzorz: have you restarted X since disabling it there?
[12:28] <Ng> dammit
[12:29] <razzorz> h1st0 : yes
[12:29] <ubuntu__> Hello?
[12:29] <finalbeta> Ng: I'm thinking of posting this on launchpad, any objections?
[12:29] <finalbeta> reason not to :p
[12:29] <Dacvak> Hey, if anyone has a moment, I'm a brand new Ubuntu user and I'm having some problems.
[12:29] <Ng> finalbeta: not at all. I've not verified it myself, but if true it's a very valid bug
[12:30] <Ng> finalbeta: i suggest filing it against ubiquity :)
[12:30] <fredericthewise> i have a moment
[12:30] <Rooy> Dacvak: how can we help you?
[12:30] <finalbeta> yep
[12:30] <jrib> Dacvak: welcome, just ask your questions
[12:30] <NY00123> Hello, when can I ask a question (yep, a tech problem ;P)?
[12:30] <Dacvak> Well, I'm trying to install the Nvidia drivers for my 7600. Everytime I do this, I get crazy errors, or it flat-out doesn't work.
[12:30] <Ng> NY00123: just ask :)
[12:30] <jussi01> !ask | NY00123
[12:30] <ubotu> NY00123: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:30] <h1st0> Dacvak: how are you tyring to install them?
[12:31] <Dacvak> I've tried a number of different ways, all tutorials online.
[12:31] <Dacvak> Typically it goes through the automatic update.
[12:31] <jussi01> !envy | Dacvak
[12:31] <ubotu> Dacvak: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[12:31] <h1st0> Dacvak: just open a terminal and sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:31] <NY00123> k. I have some random wheel-mouse connected via PS/2, which sometimes gets 'crazy' (i.e. the cursor appears somewhere else, something gets clicked by itself). I can give mouse configuration from xorg if needed.
[12:32] <razzorz> anyone know about installin quick cam ??
[12:32] <h1st0> Dacvak: please try my suggestion first installing the nvidia-glx package and tell me if you get any errors
[12:32] <Dacvak> Well, I've tried Envy, and it wouldn't actually install. And when I did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then enabled the conf thing, when I reboot, it gives me an error and takes me to some odd text screen with blue and grey.
[12:32] <NY00123> nvidia-xconfig in case?
[12:33] <h1st0> Dacvak: yes, did it say something aobut nvidia kernel module could not be loaded?
[12:33] <H264> I was trying to install Ubunt 64bit on my iMac and dual boot with OSX...
[12:33] <carlxyz> razzorz, hi, distribution ubuntu works fine together amsn
[12:33] <arfy> hi all. Just installed a new drive, or rather ,repartitioned an external USB drive. It shows up on the desktop and in file browser, but when I try to copy files to the drive, the system says that permision is denied. However, the drive worked previously when it was an ntfs drive. Any suggestions?
[12:33] <H264> folowing a guide...
[12:33] <Dacvak> At the moment, I'm running off of the boot disc, because I think I severly messed up my driver. It won't load any GUI for Ubuntu when I reboot.
[12:33] <razzorz> carlxy: what do you mean
[12:33] <carlxyz> razzorz, hi, did you know it ?
[12:34] <Dacvak> Something like that, h1st0.
[12:34] <jrib> arfy: what filesystem is on it now?
[12:34] <carlxyz> razzorz, I have a quick cam
[12:34] <Rooy> arfy: you made it to be an ext3 filesystem?
[12:34] <H264> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook is what I was folowing...
[12:34] <arfy> ext3
[12:34] <razzorz> ok how did you installt he drivers
[12:34] <h1st0> Dacvak: yeah you can get it to load gui are you able to chat on here on a seperate computer so you can work on the other wone?
[12:34] <NY00123> Dacvak: Check in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (on the hard-drive ;P) that the video driver is set to nvidia and not nv .
[12:34] <carlxyz> razzorz, I have a quick cam and works fine with amsn messenger
[12:34] <fredericthewise> I have had similar problems to Dacvak and now i just don't use the drivers - I have installed them various ways before and the same problem occurs
[12:34] <razzorz> what about with kopete?
[12:34] <mads-> I can't get my Gravis Gamepad to work - any one knows anything about this?
[12:34] <h1st0> Dacvak: or are you able to mount the hard drive to edit files on it?
[12:34] <jrib> arfy: you need to use chown/chmod to set the appropriate permissions
[12:34] <h1st0> !gamepad > mads-
[12:34] <meo> Hi all, In my Notebook , I push FN+F11, it will appear a volume progressing bar, and which package support this eyecandy function? I dont see this function in other distros
[12:34] <jrib> !permissions | arfy
[12:35] <carlxyz> razzorz, I don't know anything about coppete
[12:35] <ubotu> arfy: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:35] <razzorz> i have not installed my quick cam drivers
[12:35] <Rooy> arfy: ok, so ext3 is by default owned by root, you have to "sudo chown -R yourusr:yourgroup ." in the drive
[12:35] <Dacvak> h1st0, I'll just reinstall Ubunto while I'm in the chat. Then when I reboot, I'll enter the chat again.
[12:35] <grndslm> anyone have problems with repeated keystrokes that last for seconds....after i've stopped holding that key??
[12:35] <mads-> h1st0: He doesn't know anything :)
[12:35] <H264> "Before clicking Install, download and install the refit [url]  .deb", the only problem is that it is 32 bit...
[12:35] <h1st0> Dacvak: you don't need to reinstall it can be fixed with out doing that.
[12:35] <razzorz> carlxyz, what did you do for it to work
[12:35] <Dacvak> Ok
[12:36] <enyc> hrrm
[12:36] <carlxyz> razzorz, sorry, I just did install ubuntu, and install amsn last version
[12:36] <enyc> I am having gpgv errors in dapper-server 6.06.1 installation
[12:36] <h1st0> Dacvak: click on places do you see your hard drive that you installed to in there?
[12:36] <carlxyz> razzorz, and works fine
[12:36] <enyc> apt-get update ... gives gpgv 'unknown error' on the web-repositories!
[12:36] <razzorz> ok will do that ...thank you
[12:36] <razzorz> i was useing gaim
[12:36] <H264> meh
[12:37] <NY00123> I don't know what to do here. Maybe I should query to someone, it's quite full here ;P
[12:37] <H264> does anybody know about dual booting the 64bit version on an iMac?
[12:37] <fredericthewise> i feel the same
[12:37] <carlxyz> razzorz, I believe that gaim does not have support to cam, am I right 
[12:38] <grndslm> u right
[12:38] <OrTigaS> how to add programs to application/accessory tabs?
[12:38] <h1st0> carlxyz: true
[12:38] <Dacvak> h1st0,  I do not see my harddrive.
[12:38] <razzorz> yes you are right... but i was lookin for the cam in kopete.. but if you say it works in amsn then i will use that instead
[12:38] <grndslm> don't think there's many linux apps with webcam support....perhaps ekiga...
[12:38] <NY00123> OrTigaS: right-click on it, then Edit Menus
[12:38] <grndslm> but i dunno how to use it
[12:38] <h1st0> Dacvak: okay open a terminal and type in fdisk -l
[12:38] <OrTigaS> NY00123: noting
[12:38] <carlxyz> razzorz, yeaa I recommend it
[12:38] <razzorz> is there a program that works with yahoo chat rooms?
[12:38] <OrTigaS> nothing*
[12:38] <jrib> OrTigaS: which one?  the one you get when you go to right click > properties > open with?
[12:38] <grndslm> cam works in amsn??
[12:39] <Dacvak> Alright.
[12:39] <h1st0> Dacvak: and do you have windows on the drive or just linux?
[12:39] <razzorz> carlxyz says they do work for amsn
[12:39] <Dacvak> Just Linux.
[12:39] <OrTigaS> jrib: in application tabs
[12:39] <h1st0> Dacvak: okay how many lines long was the response from fdisk -l?
[12:39] <OrTigaS> tabs: apllication, places, system
[12:39] <javaboy> hi guys.. cud some1 tel me how to connect my Nokia 7610 to my Ubuntu desktop either thru blue tooth or cable
[12:39] <jrib> OrTigaS: right click ont he ubuntu icon > edit menus
[12:39] <carlxyz> grndslm, yeah, I already have prove it, and works out fine
[12:40] <grndslm> sweet...i'll have to check that out
[12:40] <h1st0> Dacvak: can you pastebin the results?  It would speed up the process.
[12:40] <h1st0> !paste | Dacvak
[12:40] <ubotu> Dacvak: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:40] <carlxyz> grndslm, do you have msn ?
[12:40] <javaboy> hi guys.. cud some1 tel me how to connect my Nokia 7610 to my Ubuntu desktop either thru blue tooth or cable
[12:41] <OrTigaS> not edit.... its adding. like if i downloaded and installed WINE... how can i add it to Application tabs?
[12:41] <Dacvak> h1st0, is there any way we can use AIM?
[12:41] <jrib> OrTigaS: you can add there too
[12:41] <h1st0> Dacvak: yeah histoplasmosis
[12:41] <grndslm> carlxyz: actually no...but i know lots of people who are switching from aim to msn for some reason
[12:41] <OrTigaS> let me try again
[12:41] <grndslm> so i guess i'll have to follow them
[12:41] <jrib> OrTigaS: it says "new item" on the right
[12:42] <carlxyz> grndslm, sorry well, i have a lot of partners and they actually still use amsn
[12:42] <noobubtu> anyone else having problems with bluefish crashing when trying to save?
[12:42] <OrTigaS> when i right click the ubuntu icon the "Alacarte Menu Editor" opened
[12:43] <OrTigaS> where's the "new item" there?
[12:43] <anke> -de
[12:43] <grndslm> OrTigaS:  you lookin' for wine??
[12:43] <OrTigaS> grndslm: not only that
[12:44] <grndslm> you have to type "wine program.exe" at command line
[12:44] <OrTigaS> grndslm: winecfg in terminal :)
[12:44] <OrTigaS> i want it to add in accessories/application tabs
[12:45] <OrTigaS> manually
[12:45] <jrib> OrTigaS: what version of ubuntu are you using
[12:45] <OrTigaS> 6.06
[12:46] <grndslm> ADD:
[12:46] <grndslm> [Desktop Entry] 
[12:46] <grndslm> Name=NVIDIA Settings
[12:46] <grndslm> Comment=NVIDIA Settings
[12:46] <grndslm> Exec=nvidia-settings
[12:46] <grndslm> Icon=
[12:46] <grndslm> Terminal=false
[12:46] <razzorz> carkxyz: just loaded amsn and says cam not installed
[12:46] <grndslm> Type=Application
[12:46] <ikonia_> stop flodding
[12:46] <grndslm> Categories=Application;System;
[12:46] <ikonia_> flooding
[12:46] <KeeNaF86> hi guys ... how to install gaim 2.0.0 beta 6?
[12:46] <jrib> OrTigaS: well Alacarte Menu editor is correct but I don't recall if that version had "new item".  Do you want to take a screenshot of the program?
[12:46] <dasbaka> hi
[12:46] <grndslm> oops...i tried to msg
[12:46] <jrib> !paste | grndslm
[12:46] <ubotu> grndslm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:46] <ikonia_> KeeNaF86 if its not in the ubuntu repo's my advice is to not to install it
[12:46] <grndslm> i know, i know...it had line breaks
[12:46] <Dacvak> (For the record, I really want to thank everyone for being so helpful. This really says a lot about the Ubuntu community, and makes me proud I  switched to Ubuntu)
[12:46] <dasbaka> i m having truble to install ubuntu 6.10, can anyone help me? maybe in querry?
[12:47] <ikonia_> dasbaka just explain the problem
[12:47] <KeeNaF86> ikonia_ .. why? In ubuntu repo, it has beta 3.1
[12:47] <grndslm> OrTigaS:  that's an example...but if you replace NVIDIA-Settings with Wine...it should mostly work
[12:47] <ikonia_> KeeNaF86 I said if its "not" in the ubuntu repo, I'd advise you to not bother. eg: using the ones in the ubuntu repo is the bestidea
[12:48] <razzorz> trying to install my quick cam ... any takers?
[12:48] <dasbaka> well, it tells me that i didn t decide a root-datasystem. but i chose a partition
[12:48] <dasbaka> i m in the dialoge where i have to decide the mount points
[12:48] <ikonia_> dasbaka did you tell it to fomat the root partition (root as in / not /root)
[12:48] <Toma-> KeeNaF86: you can run "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim" then try compiling yourself (as the gaim install guide goes), but dont expect things to work.
[12:48] <razzorz> cmon its not that hard is it? llll
[12:49] <ikonia_> razzorz robably not
[12:49] <grndslm> if i type msg nick "whatever <newline> some more <newline>"...will the quotes send it all to nick instead of this channel??
[12:49] <razzorz> lol can you help me?
[12:49] <dasbaka> yes, but i tried it without, too
[12:49] <ikonia_> razzorz what have you done so far ?
[12:49] <Toma-> razzorz: plug it in... use it...?
[12:49] <razzorz> nothing
[12:49] <usurp> anyone familiar with vmware?
[12:49] <OrTigaS> ok grndslm
[12:49] <razzorz> Toma: smartass
[12:49] <ikonia_> razzorz so why are you asking for help ?
[12:49] <ikonia_> if you ahve done nothing
[12:49] <grndslm> usurp:  a lil bit
[12:49] <razzorz> oh i don't know .. throw me a bone here
[12:50] <Toma-> razzorz: just telling you waht to do :/ quickcam is automagically loaded and ready to be used.
[12:50] <IdleOne> grndslm, the command is /msg username text-goes_here
[12:50] <ikonia_> a bone on what?
[12:50] <jrib> OrTigaS: maybe try right clicking on a menu on the left, if that still doesn't work, idk.  Here are the docs that tell you how to do it manually though: http://www.gnome.org/learn/ (sorry I have to go now)
[12:50] <ikonia_> razzorz you've got nothing to ask help on
[12:50] <usurp> grndslm do i install ubuntu inside vmware?
[12:50] <noobubtu> /exit
[12:50] <grndslm> IdleOne:  but if i'm sending something with line breaks...everything after the first newline will be sent to this channel instead of nick
[12:50] <OrTigaS> ty jrib
[12:50] <IdleOne> grndslm, yes
[12:50] <razzorz> ok then i will reboot and see if it works.. and if it dont.. then it dont load automaticly
[12:50] <KeeNaF86> why i cannot open source.list? once open, it closed automaticly
[12:50] <grndslm> usurp:  depends on what you'd like to do...could you be a bit more elaborate
[12:51] <grndslm> IdleOne:  so will quotes help this at all??
[12:51] <grndslm> prolly not
[12:51] <Toma-> razzorz: youre not expecting a little window of your webcam on the desktop or something silly like that are you?
[12:51] <razzorz> nono.. i loaded amsn
[12:51] <IdleOne> grndslm, give a try but dont put in to much text
[12:51] <LycanNYC-work> !nvidia
[12:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:51] <usurp> how would i get linux running in wmware? do i make a new vwware "file" and install it inside there?
[12:51] <razzorz> and tryed it and it said no device
[12:51] <dasbaka> ikonia?
[12:51] <Toma-> razzorz: ahh. now we're getting somewhere
[12:51] <ikonia_> dasbaka what ?
[12:52] <nikin> hy
[12:52] <ikonia_> Toma- like pulling teeth
[12:52] <razzorz> Toma: sorry will be more clear
[12:52] <dasbaka> i tired it with and without format of the partition, it didnt work either eay
[12:52] <rambo3> !5.1
[12:52] <razzorz> well i will try to be that is
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <grndslm> usurp:  you're trying to install ubuntu as a guest under a windows host??
[12:52] <Toma-> razzorz: does the camera dialog in amsn say "capture extension loaded?
[12:52] <usurp> ya
[12:52] <usurp> exactly
[12:52] <Toma-> ikonia_: yeh :/
[12:52] <KeeNaF86> where is the location of source.list guys?
[12:52] <Toma-> KeeNaF86: /etc/apt
[12:52] <razzorz> one sec.. i will tell you everything
[12:53] <IdleOne> KeeNaF86, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <grndslm> usurp:  well, i have not installed on windows host...i did it the other way around...so i can't help with vmware installation
[12:53] <usurp> oh its okay
[12:53] <vluid> hallo, does anyone know how to submit self edited id3tags to freedb?
[12:53] <ikonia_> vluid thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:53] <usurp> ill figure it out when ubuntu downloads cause xubuntu sucks
[12:53] <nikin> this weekend i will start a project... the main things to mention about. IBM notebook (166MMX, 40MB RAM, 400 MB HDD) and Ubuntu... any ideas are welcome....
[12:53] <KeeNaF86> why in my pc .. i couldnt find apt in etc dir??
[12:53] <ikonia_> nikin ideas on what ?
[12:53] <grndslm> usurp:  but you either want vmware player or server (i prefer player as it's way cleaner)....and you'll wanna check out easyvmx.com to create your virtual machine & disk for your guest os (ubuntu)
[12:54] <colo_work> ubuntu? you mean, ubuntu as in "GNOME desktop"?
[12:54] <colo_work> forget it
[12:54] <nikin> ikonia: getting ubuntu with X in that parameters...
[12:54] <Toma-> nikin: server install with fluxbox or enlightenment
[12:54] <ikonia_> nikin should be fine
[12:54] <usurp> ok ty
[12:54] <grndslm> usurp:  it's important to use the terms guestOS & hostOS when talking about vmware because it makes a huge difference
[12:54] <ikonia_> colo_work sorry pardon ?
[12:54] <jatt> idea: upgrade RAM (40MB is not enough)
[12:54] <usurp> xubuntu is buggy though
[12:54] <razzorz> Toma: no grabber device avaible
[12:54] <KeeNaF86> why in my pc .. i couldnt find apt in etc dir?? what should i do IdleOne Toma-
[12:54] <nikin> Toma: what kernel? 2.6 or 2.4 ?
[12:55] <Toma-> nikin: good luck getting 2.4 on it with ubuntu...
[12:55] <nikin> jatt: RAM upgrade is hard to find.... i think it has EDO ram
[12:55] <grndslm> usurp:  i don't know jack about xfce...but gnome works great for me....it's certainly not perfect, but i do love it
[12:55] <Toma-> razzorz: can you put "lsusb" command output on pastebin?
[12:55] <jatt> I doubt even the graphical installer will run with 40MB ram
[12:55] <Toma-> KeeNaF86: have you got ubuntu installed?
[12:55] <razzorz> ok
[12:55] <nospi> hey
[12:55] <Toma-> thanks
[12:55] <ikonia_> jatt 128 meg is the minimum according tot he site
[12:56] <nikin> jatt: i dont care the graphical installer
[12:56] <usurp> grndslm why didnt u get wmware server? someone told me to get that one?
[12:56] <nospi> what p2p programs run on linux? like limewire
[12:56] <ikonia_> nospi search synaptic repo's
[12:56] <nospi> ikonia, ok
[12:56] <Toma-> nospi: limewire runs... gtk-gnutella is better... Deluge is the best for bittorrent
[12:56] <KeeNaF86> yes .. I can ubuntu and now im using ubuntu .. Toma- .. I dont know .. suddenly the dir apt in etc doesnt exist .. last time .. it was there
[12:56] <vluid> ikonia: i know
[12:56] <razzorz> Toma: its posted ( RazzoR )
[12:57] <lkthomas> anyone try to setup hylafax before ?
[12:57] <ikonia_> vluid you know what ?
[12:57] <Toma-> razzorz: weblink plz
[12:57] <ikonia_> (sorry I missed what I posted to you)
[12:57] <grndslm> usurp: because once you have the machine & disk created...server adds nothing on top of player that the avg joe, such as us would need....server is more for business use really...where virtualization is a big deal with multiple computers
[12:57] <ikonia_> lkthomas done it on solaris
[12:57] <vluid> but ill be pleased about an answer...
[12:57] <grndslm> usurp:  easyvmx.com is where it's at...
[12:57] <grndslm> if you need some help on that page, now's the time to ask me
[12:57] <razzorz> http://pastebin.sk/en/1080/
[12:57] <Toma-> KeeNaF86: have you got the case right?
[12:57] <lkthomas> ikonia, couple of question, hylafax suppose to be chroot to /var/spool/hylafax, but nothing inside
[12:57] <nospi> ikonia, repositories? how do i view them? sorry, really new to linux
[12:57] <lkthomas> ikonia, any idea why ?
[12:57] <usurp> grndslam so which one should i get?
[12:58] <ikonia_> lkthomas I never used a chroot
[12:58] <KeeNaF86> Toma- yes ..
[12:58] <dasbaka> ikonia: can you help me with the install-problem?
[12:58] <ikonia_> nospi use synaptic
[12:58] <Toma-> KeeNaF86: well thats baffling.
[12:58] <lkthomas> ikonia, how to disable chroot then ?
[12:58] <h1st0> If I add something to my Preferences > Session where does it save it to in my /home/user
[12:58] <nospi> ikonia, found it, i think
[12:58] <ikonia_> lkthomas no idea - check the config, I never needed to run hylafix in a chroot
[12:58] <razzorz> toma: http://pastebin.sk/en/1080/
[12:58] <ikonia_> h1st0 I'd guess under .gnome
[12:58] <Toma-> thanks
[12:58] <h1st0> ikonia_: Yeah i'm trying to find it in there but I don't see anythign
[12:58] <grndslm> usurp:  i'd get player...and create the virtual machine & disk with easyvmx
[12:59] <KeeNaF86> Toma- for your information .. i also cannot open add/remove program .. once it launch, it will close automaticly
[12:59] <usurp> ok ty
[12:59] <grndslm> np
[12:59] <ikonia_> KeeNaF86 possibly because /etc/apt is missing
[12:59] <Toma-> KeeNaF86: sounds like youve destroyed your package managment.
[12:59] <h1st0> ikonia_: yeah .gnome is blank
[12:59] <ikonia_> h1st0 I'd expect it under there or .sessions
[01:00] <KeeNaF86> Toma- ikonia_ .. I think so .. but ... how to recover it?
[01:00] <Tb0n3> should I install ubuntu on all the staples computers?
[01:00] <ikonia_> recreate it
[01:00] <grndslm> usurp, here: http://easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml  lemme know if you're unsure of what to select!
[01:00] <ikonia_> Tb0n3 what ?
[01:00] <Tb0n3> in the stores?
[01:00] <ikonia_> Tb0n3 why would you do that ?
[01:00] <ikonia_> Tb0n3 do you work there
[01:00] <Tb0n3> because I can
[01:00] <Tb0n3> and yes I do
[01:00] <Tb0n3> shhhh
[01:00] <ikonia_> Tb0n3 there is no need to do that, but its up to you
[01:00] <Tb0n3> display computers
[01:00] <Tb0n3> lol
[01:00] <Tb0n3> it'd just be funny
[01:00] <ikonia_> not really
[01:00] <Toma-> Tb0n3: sure :) thats how MS got so popular. some turkey went and give everyone no choice of install
[01:01] <usurp> intel centrino duo has two processors right?
[01:01] <Frogzoo> Tb0n3: if you don't have authorisation, best not
[01:01] <razzorz> Toma: thoughts??
[01:01] <Toma-> razzorz: trying to find the module that loads my quickcam :D
[01:01] <grndslm> usurp:  here's the deal..you don't wanna allocate all your hardware, so just select 1...and if you have a gig, i'd recommend 320~384mb ram
[01:01] <razzorz> ok
[01:01] <fdsasdf> ubuntu won't detect my usb wireless dongel. anyone know why?
[01:02] <ikonia_> fdsasdf its not nativly supported ?
[01:02] <Tb0n3> cause it's a usb wireless dongle?
[01:02] <usurp> ya thats the ram i was gonna put
[01:02] <Toma-> razzorz: ahh. 'sudo modprobe spca5xx' should solve it
[01:02] <razzorz> ok will try.. brb
[01:02] <fdsasdf> ikonia_ it worked in feisty but it doesnt in edgy?
[01:02] <ikonia_> fdsasdf drivers not in edgy
[01:02] <grndslm> usurp:  bridge for both network devices, tho wireless prolly won't work (mine didn't at least)
[01:02] <ikonia_> fdsasdf maybe festiy deals with that hardware better as its newer
[01:03] <f00bar> hey, anyone know how to downgrade from php5 to php4
[01:03] <lkthomas> does anyone config hylafax before ?
[01:03] <razzorz> toma.. nothing happend.. just gave me another cmd line
[01:03] <ikonia_> f00bar remove the php5 package - install the php4 package
[01:03] <Toma-> razzorz: sweet.
[01:03] <razzorz> oh ya
[01:03] <ikonia_> lkthomas yup
[01:03] <Toma-> razzorz: try amsn again
[01:03] <razzorz> loads
[01:03] <razzorz> ok
[01:03] <fdsasdf> ikona_ could i download the drivrs?
[01:03] <ikonia_> fdsasdf I don't know, look it up
[01:03] <lkthomas> ikonia, I don't mean you
[01:03] <f00bar> ok
[01:03] <f00bar> i know how to remove
[01:03] <ikonia_> lkthomas what part are you stuck on ?
[01:03] <lkthomas> ikonia, I still can't get chroot shit disable
[01:03] <usurp> grndslam with NAT it uses my windows ip right?
[01:03] <ikonia_> lkthomas careful on the language
[01:03] <f00bar> whats the cmd
[01:04] <f00bar> apt-get install php4
[01:04] <dasbaka> I installed ubuntu yesterday but it doesn t start anymore, so i chose to reinstall it. i didn t format the HD yet, and i m currently in the "Select Mount Points"-dialoge. now it says that i didnt choose a root-datasystem, although i set the partition i installed ubuntu on yesterday on /
[01:04] <dasbaka> can anyone help me?
[01:04] <KeeNaF86> Toma- ikonia_ .. I think so .. but ... how to recover it?
[01:04] <lkthomas> ikonia, empty /var/spool/hylafax
[01:04] <lkthomas> ikonia, suppose it will create all dir
[01:04] <lkthomas> ikonia, there have a lot of special file and folder within that dir
[01:04] <ikonia_> lkthomas ok so you don't want to chroot into that if its empty as there is nothing to launch from within there
[01:04] <ikonia_> lkthomas ahh thats ok then
[01:04] <ikonia_> lkthomas the devices are the "fax" devices
[01:04] <grndslm> usurp:  i couldn't get nat to work...but bridge should be what you want anyway
[01:04] <lkthomas> ikonia, I did run hylafax, but then it complain about empty dir
[01:04] <ikonia_> lkthomas although they normally differ from OS to OS so I'm surprised you got that
[01:04] <NY00123> Can someone help me too? And, use query?
[01:04] <chochis> hay alguien
[01:04] <grndslm> usurp: but yea...nat shares your windows ip
[01:05] <ikonia_> NY00123 whats the matter
[01:05] <NY00123> sorry (heheh)
[01:05] <NY00123> Jerky PS/2 mouse is the matter ;P (not jerky in XP, at least)
[01:05] <ikonia_> NY00123 are you using ati ?
[01:05] <NY00123> It's not always jerky, I mean
[01:05] <NY00123> nvidia
[01:05] <NY00123> 7900gs
[01:05] <usurp> grndslam my wireless card doesnt work w/ linux will wmware make it use my windows internet connection?
[01:05] <Tb0n3> I just remembered why I came here in the first place
[01:05] <Toma-> KeeNaF86: no idea.
[01:05] <Tb0n3> amd64 kernel should work on core duo, right?
[01:05] <grndslm> usurp:  and try selecting scsi at first...but i couldn't get it to work for windows guest...so i had to choose ide...only change it to that if scsi doesn't work
[01:05] <ikonia_> NY00123 what video driver are you using
[01:05] <cypherdelic> With current NVIDIA Module i cant watch any GL stuff in fullscreen, nor Screensaver, nor Foobillard, using "nv" works
[01:06] <ikonia_> Tb0n3 if the c2d is 64bit yes
[01:06] <NY00123> 1.0-8776
[01:06] <Tb0n3> well, the amd threw me off
[01:06] <CroX> Anyone know of a good project manager / todo-list handler for use with Ubuntu?
[01:06] <NY00123> (from the repository)
[01:06] <grndslm> usurp:  don't get hopeful about the wireless....i couldn't get it to work
[01:06] <ikonia_> NY00123 are you actually using that driver in the Xorg
[01:06] <Tb0n3> I worked the nvidia thing myself
[01:06] <NY00123> Right now? Yes
[01:06] <NY00123> I can run games like Quake 4
[01:06] <Toma-> CroX: evolution mail has one
[01:06] <Tb0n3> the nvidia-glx should work
[01:06] <ikonia_> NY00123 so you're using the nvidia driver - not nv or vesa
[01:06] <NY00123> nope
[01:06] <NY00123> nvidia
[01:06] <Gurpartap> what's the minimum requirements for quake 3?
[01:07] <CroX> Toma-: Not really what I'm looking for. I want a standalone and something more advanced.
[01:07] <ikonia_> NY00123 thats strange, is dri running ?
[01:07] <Gurpartap> would it work on old P III ?
[01:07] <Tb0n3> don't get the nvidia from nvidia
[01:07] <Gurpartap> 256 ram
[01:07] <NY00123> How can I tell? oh
[01:07] <Tb0n3> get it from apt-get nvidia-glx
[01:07] <Tb0n3> that makes it work
[01:07] <lkthomas> ikonia,
[01:07] <NY00123> yes
[01:07] <lkthomas> root@cups:/var/spool/hylafax# faxaddmodem
[01:07] <lkthomas> /usr/sbin/faxaddmodem: line 128: cd: /var/spool/hylafax/config: No such file or directory
[01:07] <NY00123> it does (glxinfo)
[01:07] <Tb0n3> also, rtfm
[01:07] <Tb0n3> ;)
[01:07] <Toma-> NY00123: can you put a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on pastebin?
[01:07] <ikonia_> lkthomas you;ve not got a config file
[01:07] <NY00123> I don't know how to use pastebin ;P
[01:07] <NY00123> and where is it
[01:07] <Toma-> !pastebin
[01:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <Toma-> :)
[01:08] <nospi> gtk-gnutella won't open for me
[01:08] <lkthomas> ikonia, I can't disable chroot, and it suppose to be able to copy the config file from /etc to /var/spool/hylafax
[01:08] <ikonia_> lkthomas "its" and "you" - chrooting won't copy anything - you'll probably have to copy the files
[01:08] <NY00123> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10331/
[01:08] <ikonia_> lkthomas or create symlinks
[01:08] <NY00123> At least look at the mouse section
[01:08] <NY00123> I can tell you I didn't have this problem with a USB Microsoft mouse
[01:09] <lkthomas> ikonia, NO, after I create tons of file, it said seqf file not found
[01:09] <NY00123> Now using a random PS/2 mouse I have it. But not in WinXP
[01:09] <ikonia_> lkthomas what file is it complaining is not found ?
[01:09] <lkthomas> ikonia, seqf
[01:09] <ikonia_> lkthomas and where is that file ?
[01:09] <OrTigaS> how to uninstall my clamav
[01:09] <ikonia_> OrTigaS use synaptic
[01:09] <razzorz> toma: did not do the trick i guess
[01:09] <lkthomas> ikonia, each of the folder contain that file and I have no idea where is it come from
[01:10] <ikonia_> lkthomas whats in that file ?
[01:10] <Toma-> razzorz: really?
[01:10] <razzorz> ya still about this grabber
[01:10] <lkthomas> ikonia, I don't know
[01:10] <ikonia_> lkthomas take a look ?
[01:10] <lkthomas> ikonia, random number
[01:11] <ikonia_> lkthomas I guess the key is to find where it expects that file to be
[01:11] <lkthomas> ikonia, there is no way to deal with it
[01:12] <ikonia_> lkthomas what do you mean ?
[01:12] <razzorz> Toma: curently no devices installed
[01:12] <lkthomas> ikonia, I am totally confused,
[01:12] <fdsasdf> where can i get the new feisty fawn iso? (NOT the herd, i dont have windows)
[01:12] <NY00123> brb, I'll see an answer if you type NY00123 when you talk to me
[01:12] <ikonia_> fdsasdf what does not having windows have anythingto do with it
[01:12] <Toma-> razzorz: what did dmesg say when you loaded that module?
[01:12] <ikonia_> lkthomas yes, you sound a little muddled
[01:13] <ikonia_> lkthomasm do you understand chrooting ?
[01:13] <fdsasdf> ikonia_ the herd installs it withing windows
[01:13] <fdsasdf> *within
[01:13] <razzorz> 'sudo modprobe spca5xx   ???
[01:13] <f00bar> add/remove programs has crashed
[01:13] <f00bar> what do i do
[01:13] <ikonia_> fdsasdf I thought the herd was just a released numer eg: herd 5 was release 5
[01:13] <fdsasdf> oh
[01:13] <Toma-> razzorz: yeh. just type 'dmesg' and youll see somethng about it at the end
[01:13] <razzorz> ok
[01:14] <fdsasdf> ikonia_ sorry i thought the herd was the ubuntu windows installer
[01:14] <razzorz> toma: what i lookin for.. lots of stuff here
[01:14] <pablo_> hi! my usb mouse runs well and after some minutes stops working! :(  less /var/log/messages |grep usb says: http://pastebin.com/898764
[01:14] <razzorz> want me to post it?
[01:14] <HexDump> bye all
[01:15] <Toma-> NY00123: try changing the protocol to "IMPS/2"
[01:15] <KeeNaF86> guys.. how to recover package management
[01:15] <Toma-> razzorz: yeh just the last 20 lines or so
[01:15] <fdsasdf> ubuntu is small, only 650mb
[01:15] <f00bar> how do i close add/remove programs?
[01:16] <razzorz> toma:http://pastebin.sk/en/1081/
[01:16] <razzorz> ok you got 65 lines
[01:16] <razzorz> lmao
[01:16] <Toma-> KeeNaF86: reinstall is the easiest method
[01:16] <OrTigaS> http://www.fugly.com/videos/7237/vista-vs-linux-ubuntu.html   <-- is this true?
[01:16] <fdsasdf> ill be back, asking how i can install opera, beryl, and wine CYA and thanks for the help
[01:16] <OrTigaS> i want my ubuntu be like that :)
[01:16] <Toma-> OrTigaS: no.
[01:16] <pablo_> f00bar. system-->admin-->synaptic package manager
[01:17] <OrTigaS> oh
[01:17] <NY00123> Toma- I think I've tried
[01:17] <razzorz> beryl is the best.. LOVE IT
[01:17] <f00bar> add/remove programs craches
[01:17] <Toma-> NY00123: is it a logitech mouse?
[01:17] <lkthomas> ikonia, sounds like apt-get also messed up
[01:17] <KeeNaF86> Toma- .. It is hard to reinstall because I run beryl, 3d desktop .. it took me a whole day to set up .. :P .. anyway .. how if I copy etc/apt from other pc? is it working?
[01:17] <NY00123> No. To tell you the truth Toma- it's some random ('crap'?) mouse ;P
[01:17] <NY00123> But it works well in WinXP
[01:17] <NY00123> and thinking about that, I had a similar problem in some laptop
[01:18] <carlxyz> razzorz, what kind of machine you have to say that you love it
[01:18] <h1st0> KeeNaF86: what exactly is the problem with package management?
[01:18] <KeeNaF86> hlst0 ... I have problem where the apt dir in etc does not exist ...
[01:18] <pablo_> hi! my usb mouse runs well and after some minutes stops working! :(  less /var/log/messages |grep usb says: http://pastebin.com/898764 any ideas?
[01:18] <Toma-> NY00123: well, ps/2 is a really crappy protocol. you might want to look at evdev
[01:18] <VJun> hi ya
[01:18] <razzorz> carlxyz: what do you mean
[01:18] <NY00123> k toma- googling ;P
[01:19] <razzorz> beryl works fine no issues and never had one
[01:19] <xeternal> hello
[01:19] <Toma-> NY00123: good job :)
[01:19] <NY00123> Toma-,  evdev is loaded (lsmod)
[01:19] <carlxyz> razzorz, what pc or lap do you have 
[01:19] <carlxyz> ?
[01:19] <razzorz> Pc.
[01:19] <VJun> beryl need a graphic card to work ?
[01:19] <NY00123> A PC always needs a video card ;P
[01:19] <VJun> my graphic card is just 32 MB , will it works on it ?
[01:20] <VJun> i mean beryl
[01:20] <razzorz> 3.2 gig, 2gig of ddr2 , ati hdtv ,
[01:20] <NY00123> Then try finding a compatibility list
[01:20] <VJun> hmm
[01:20] <h1st0> KeeNaF86: what do you mean exactly?
[01:20] <carlxyz> NY00123, well what kind ???
[01:20] <h1st0> KeeNaF86: ahh the config doesn't exist?
[01:20] <NY00123> I mean, a list of supported and unsupported video cards/chips
[01:20] <VJun> i feel that ubuntu is more cooler than vista
[01:20] <razzorz> if i can get my cam running i would upload my desktop to youtube to be cool like the rest
[01:21] <DeadNotBuried> hey
[01:21] <DeadNotBuried> add/remove programs has crashed
[01:21] <DeadNotBuried> how do i close it
[01:21] <h1st0> KeeNaF86: hrm... well maybe download the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and remove aptitude and install it from the deb
[01:21] <KeeNaF86> hlst0 .. yes .. the whole apt directory in etc doesnt exist
[01:21] <Toma-> VJun: sure is. sadly, i dont think your 32mb gfx card will run beryl..
[01:21] <razzorz> Dead: i can give you 30 reasons that vista Blows
[01:21] <VJun> yeah
[01:21] <zipper> So, it seems like i have trouble connecting to my initial sources.list. How do i reconfigure them? dpkg-reconfigure dpkg doesnt work
[01:21] <VJun> :(
[01:21] <razzorz> Toma: whats the scoop?.. i know your busy
[01:21] <VJun> Toma- , at least need how much of size ?
[01:22] <Toma-> VJun: :< what aspect of beryl did you want?
[01:22] <VJun> 128, ?
[01:22] <VJun> 256 ?
[01:22] <DeadNotBuried> how do i close it
[01:22] <Toma-> VJun: 64
[01:22] <Toma-> VJun: what card is it anyway?
[01:22] <VJun> Toma-: umm
[01:22] <DeadNotBuried> HELLO?
[01:22] <dario_> hi everybody
[01:22] <xeternal> hello
[01:22] <razzorz> Vjun: see if this helps
[01:22] <Ubica> hi
[01:22] <razzorz> http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[01:22] <Toma-> razzorz: sorry. ummm. looks like spca5xx isnt loading your cam. might need a different module. 1 moment
[01:22] <VJun> Toma- : RAGE 128 PRO AGP 4X TMDS ( Microsoft Corporation
[01:23] <DeadNotBuried> How do i close add/remove programs? its crashed
[01:23] <razzorz> ok toma
[01:23] <xeternal> any one install maya8.5 on feisty
[01:23] <DeadNotBuried> ffs, i need to remove php5
[01:23] <dario_> i have winxp in my machine and when a install ubuntu 6.10 and use internet then in windows i get null conectivity
[01:24] <dario_> anybody can tell me why?
[01:24] <VJun> thanks razzorz , i going to check it out
[01:24] <NY00123> Toma- I've made: cat /proc/bus/input/devices | egrep "Name|Handlers"
[01:24] <NY00123> N: Name="ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse"
[01:24] <Toma-> VJun: yeh, beryl wont run it. you can try metisse if youre really desperate :D
[01:24] <NY00123> H: Handlers=mouse0 event1 ts0
[01:24] <DeadNotBuried> How do i close add/remove programs? its crashed
[01:24] <DeadNotBuried> How do i close add/remove programs? its crashed
[01:24] <DeadNotBuried> How do i close add/remove programs? its crashed
[01:24] <edmetal> IRC #ubuntu-it-chat
[01:24] <NY00123> killall -KILL something-i-don't-know ;] 
[01:24] <VJun> Toma- what is metisse ?
[01:25] <Toma-> DeadNotBuried: "ps aux" then "kill -KILL PID"
[01:25] <razzorz> Whats the big issue with beryl?
[01:25] <NY00123> aha, gj ;)
[01:25] <Toma-> VJun: http://insitu.lri.fr/metisse/
[01:25] <Toma-> same thins as beryl but lots lighter and it came out long before beryl :)
[01:25] <VJun> wow
[01:26] <VJun> Toma- : does it need a high size of graphic card ?
[01:26] <DeadNotBuried> how do i find out what proc it is?
[01:26] <dario_> i have winxp in my machine and when a install ubuntu 6.10 and use internet then in windows i have null conectivity
[01:26] <Toma-> VJun: probably. but it might work ok
[01:27] <razzorz> vjun: what card are you runing?
[01:27] <VJun> Toma-: how about 32 MB?
[01:27] <razzorz> no
[01:27] <razzorz> 128 or up
[01:27] <earthen> I've downloaded Gnome Art, I can download the themes but i cannot click the install button does anyone know why?
[01:27] <razzorz> needs to be 3d
[01:27] <VJun> razzorz : RAGE 128 PRO AGP 4X TMDS (32MB)
[01:27] <lkthomas> hmm
[01:27] <lkthomas> does apt-get got bugs or what
[01:27] <VJun> ohh
[01:27] <VJun> sigh
[01:28] <VJun> i was very excited while watcht the beryl in youtube
[01:28] <razzorz> hey toma how do i find specs on my gfcard?
[01:28] <DeadNotBuried> am i being ignored
[01:28] <razzorz> not ignored just lots what your tryin to work out there dead
[01:28] <Toma-> razzorz: 'lspci -vv'
[01:28] <razzorz> ty
[01:28] <VJun> razzorz , i using windows right now
[01:28] <VJun> haha
[01:28] <VJun> i juz using xchat in windows xp
[01:28] <choongii> hi. anyone know of a repos which has dosbox 0.7 ?
[01:29] <razzorz> aww
[01:29] <Toma-> choongii: youll have to build it yourself
[01:29] <choongii> Toma-, alright, thanks
[01:29] <Toma-> razzorz: tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191770
[01:29] <razzorz> anyone wanna smoke a joint?
[01:29] <DeadNotBuried> me
[01:29] <razzorz> one sec toma i will look
[01:29] <Toma-> razzorz: not in here. #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:30] <IdleOne> !ohmy | razzorz
[01:30] <ubotu> razzorz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:30] <razzorz> LOL
[01:30] <DeadNotBuried> !abuse | IdleOne
[01:30] <ubotu> IdleOne: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:30] <VJun>  guys
[01:30] <VJun>  i gotta go
[01:30] <VJun> >_<
[01:30] <VJun> see ya
[01:30] <VJun> :D
[01:31] <lkthomas> guys, how could I completely reinstall a program ?
[01:31] <IdleOne> DeadNotBuried, this is a support channel not a 420 channel. we have kids as young as 10 in here and I doubt the parents would appreciate theyre kids seeing that kinda talk
[01:31] <rambo3> !ops
[01:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[01:31] <Toma-> DeadNotBuried: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:31] <sipior> lkthomas: via synaptic?
[01:31] <lkthomas> sipior, I need apt-get
[01:31] <Hobbsee> rambo3: ?
[01:32] <IdleOne> !CoC | DeadNotBuried
[01:32] <ubotu> DeadNotBuried: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:32] <sipior> lkthomas: hmm...think you're stuck with remove and then install
[01:32] <Toma-> Stoners
[01:32] <rambo3> Hobbsee, DeadNotBuried wont take drug talk to OT
[01:32] <sipior> cool it, IdleOne, no one needs a nanny here
[01:32] <DeadNotBuried>  SORRY KIDS, DONT DRINK AND DRIVE, SMOKE WEED AND FLY
[01:32] <IdleOne> sipior, apperently they do
[01:32] <DeadNotBuried> sorry :P
[01:32] <Hobbsee> DeadNotBuried: behave.
[01:33] <DeadNotBuried> yes sir
[01:33] <DeadNotBuried> add/remove proggy's crashed
[01:33] <DeadNotBuried> its annoying
[01:33] <DeadNotBuried> i cant close it
[01:33] <Toma-> DeadNotBuried: 'ps aux'
[01:33] <IdleOne> DeadNotBuried, ps aux look for the PID then kill pidnumber
[01:33] <Toma-> then 'kill -KILL PID'
[01:33] <DeadNotBuried> yeah
[01:33] <Toma-> told you 15 mins ago
[01:33] <DeadNotBuried> how i know whats the add/remove?
[01:33] <XP> synaptics
[01:34] <Toma-> if you like, you can paste it on pastebin
[01:34] <sipior> lkthomas: why only apt-get, out of curiosity?
[01:34] <lkthomas> nevermind
[01:34] <lkthomas> apt-get install --yes --reinstall -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confnew
[01:35] <f00bar> DeadNotBuried's Link: http://rafb.net/p/6ZpAdC35.html
[01:35] <sipior> lkthomas: ah, there you go. never made use of that before
[01:35] <DeadNotBuried> ^^ my link
[01:35] <MikesDesk> hi I am running 6.06 server with Lamp, and have enabled mod_rewrite. Rewrite appears in phpinfo but it wont work on the websites? any ideas thanks.
[01:35] <DeadNotBuried> there, http://rafb.net/p/6ZpAdC35.html
[01:35] <razzorz> Toma:
[01:35] <DeadNotBuried> which one do i kill
[01:36] <ctrl_x> Where is torrent client located in ubuntu
[01:36] <zipper> Could anyone who is using an UK mirror for their sources.list please upload it somewhere? Like pastebin or something, or just directly send it to me?
[01:36] <Toma-> razzorz: what...?
[01:36] <OrTigaS> why when i right click on tabs its only shows "remove panel" theres no "add panel" on a vacant space
[01:36] <ctrl_x> i mean in which option
[01:36] <zipper> using 6.10
[01:36] <razzorz> ok i got the tar...
[01:36] <razzorz> for quick cam 1.6
[01:36] <Toma-> razzorz: follow the guide...
[01:37] <tdmme> I just updated my Dapper Drake (6.06 LT) and now ssh (client & server) are broken. When I try to connect to another ssh server I get an Segment Fault. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[01:37] <razzorz> the guied is messed up... i do what it says but comes up with this
[01:37] <Toma-> pastebin plz
[01:37] <ctrl_x> canany one tell me plz
[01:37] <Toma-> unless its 1 line..
[01:37] <DeadNotBuried> whats the difference
[01:37] <ctrl_x> where is bittottrent
[01:37] <SubMOA> has anybody gotten wordpress to work?
[01:37] <razzorz> i will post it for you
[01:37] <ctrl_x> client in ubuntu
[01:37] <ctrl_x> ; (
[01:37] <sipior> ctrl_x: synaptic has a search function, via ctrl-f
[01:38] <ctrl_x> : (
[01:38] <lewiz> Hi guys.  Can anybody tell me the state of multimedia with amd64?  Are there any other problems I might run into using the amd64 version?
[01:38] <Toma-> DeadNotBuried: ok. try running "xkill" then click on the window.
[01:38] <ctrl_x> sipior, what should i type there
[01:38] <sipior> ctrl_x: well, i'd start with "torrent" :-)
[01:38] <ctrl_x> sipior, which one is available i have ubuntu 6.06
[01:39] <razzorz> toma:http://pastebin.sk/en/1082/
[01:39] <SubMOA> I Synapticed wordpress and now I can't find it :O(
[01:39] <Toma-> razzorz: using xchat?
[01:39] <sipior> SubMOA: check out the installed file list via synaptic
[01:39] <DeadNotBuried> razzorz, thank you
[01:39] <Toma-> razzorz: its build-essential
[01:39] <MikesDesk> SubMOA, Worpress is downloaded then dumped onto an apache webserver.
[01:39] <SubMOA> sipior, how do I go about that?
[01:39] <ctrl_x> sipior, i think bittorrent is installed
[01:40] <razzorz> explain please
[01:40] <SubMOA> MikesDesk, how to I do that?
[01:40] <ctrl_x> sipior, but where it is
[01:40] <SubMOA> mikefoo, so open the apache web server
[01:40] <Toma-> razzorz: "sudo apt-get install build-essential camorama"
[01:40] <SubMOA> MikesDesk, so open apache?  I don't really want to actually publsh anything... just create webpages
[01:40] <razzorz> put that in?
[01:40] <Toma-> razzorz: you bet
[01:41] <sipior> SubMOA: in synaptic, select the pacakge, click the "properties" button, and then select the "installed files" tab
[01:41] <MikesDesk> SubMOA, go to wordpress.org and download wordpress. Then unzip the file into var/www
[01:41] <tdmme> ssh and sshd gives me "Segmentation fault" after updating, how can I fix this?
[01:41] <ctrl_x> sipior, how to start Bittorrent
[01:41] <MikesDesk> SubMOA, have you got apache installed?
[01:41] <SubMOA> MikesDesk, sipior I think I will try sipiors way first...
[01:41] <ctrl_x> sipior, i didnt found it in options
[01:41] <SubMOA> MikesDesk, I believe it was a dependency, so yes, it was automatically downloaded
[01:41] <sipior> ctrl_x: there's no menu item?
[01:41] <Toma-> tdmme: apt-get install --reinstall opensshd orsomething like that
[01:42] <ctrl_x> sipior, then how i use it
[01:42] <ctrl_x> sipior, : (
[01:42] <SubMOA> sipior, I have the properties open... now what?
[01:42] <sipior> SubMOA: pick the installed files tab
[01:42] <sipior> ctrl_x: so it starts up fine?
[01:43] <ctrl_x> sipior, In synaptic it show me already installed
[01:43] <zombieee> Nn som vet mkt om lampor hr?
[01:43] <ctrl_x> sipior, but where it is , how to run it
[01:43] <h1st0> What language is that.
[01:43] <Hobbsee> zombieee: english only please
[01:43] <sipior> ctrl_x: so is it installed in your main menu?
[01:43] <NY00123> Back, can evdev be used with a PS/2 mouse? (got an Xorg error related to that)
[01:43] <DeadNotBuried> it isnt closing
[01:43] <SubMOA> sipior, mkay...
[01:43] <h1st0> zombieee: what language do you speak?
[01:44] <SubMOA> sipior, that's a huge list
[01:44] <sipior> SubMOA: yep
[01:44] <MikesDesk> Anyone know about apache+mod_rewrite on ubuntu 6.06? thanks
[01:44] <SubMOA> Sipior, are those dependencies?
[01:44] <sipior> SubMOA: try selecting it all, dumping it to a text editor and then searchinge there
[01:45] <SubMOA> Sipingal, nevermind
[01:45] <SubMOA> sipior, ok...
[01:45] <sipior> SubMOA: no, those should be the installed files attached to that package
[01:45] <tdmme> Toma-: even when reinstalling ssh I get the 'Segmentation failt', and then the openssh-server package stays 'unconfigured'
[01:45] <DeadNotBuried> it wont close
[01:45] <tdmme> Toma-: any idea how to configure the openssh-server package by hand or something?
[01:46] <SubMOA> sipior, ok... it is in a text document... what am i searching for?
[01:46] <sipior> SubMOA: i don't know, weren't you looking for where a file is stored?
[01:46] <Toma-> tdmme: sounds like the updated ssh server has a funky config file... backup your current version of the configs then delete them... see if that helps?
[01:46] <DeadNotBuried> fuck! 75d uptime gone
[01:47] <SubMOA> sipior, maybe... I would like to go to the terminal and type something in to get wordpress running (an icon on my programs menu would work fine, i suppose... I am learing terminal, though, so it doesn't matter)
[01:47] <sipior> SubMOA: wordpress is installed so as to be runnable by your web server, not from the terminal
[01:47] <sipior> it's not a program, per se
[01:48] <Toma-> DeadNotBuried: no swearing....
[01:48] <h1st0> DeadNotBuried: what version of ubuntu?
[01:48] <SubMOA> ...sipior, that does complicate things
[01:49] <SubMOA> so thought i was kind of like dreamweaver
[01:49] <sipior> SubMOA: yeah, a bit :-)
[01:49] <IdleOne> h1st0, only way to solve DeadNotBuried's issue is a reboot
[01:49] <DeadNotBuried> ok
[01:49] <DeadNotBuried> i did that
[01:49] <sipior> SubMOA: might try having a look in /usr/share/doc/wordpress or whatever, see if there are ubuntu-specific instructions
[01:49] <DeadNotBuried> now i cant view desktop
[01:50] <h1st0> IdleOne: No i was just wondering what version he got that kind of uptime out of.
[01:50] <sipior> SubMOA: but generally you'll need to configure the web server, set up a store for documents, &cet.
[01:50] <SubMOA> sipior, rgr... so I get apache running and from there... can I run it from that (I'm completely ignorant (NOT FOR LONG THOUGH!) on that)
[01:50] <Heroin> how would i setup a webserver so i would have *@domain.com email adresses?
[01:50] <Heroin> SubMOA whats ur question?
[01:50] <sipior> SubMOA: yes, that's exactly right. apache will call wordpress when you access a specific URL on your computer
[01:51] <h1st0> !lamp > Heroin
[01:51] <sipior> Heroin: webservers are unrelated to email addresses
[01:51] <Heroin> i have a LAMP server thanks h1st0 i just dont know how to setup email adresses
[01:51] <SubMOA> sipior... and can I edit things... like dreamweaver, or am I completely mistaken here
[01:52] <sipior> SubMOA: yes, you'd edit your blog entries through the wordpress interface
[01:52] <IdleOne> h1st0, I believe he said Edgy about the uptime
[01:52] <zzz_> !lamp > zzz_
[01:52] <Heroin> h1st0 and sipior how would i achieve a *@domain.com email adresses?
[01:52] <sipior> Heroin: you need to procure a domain registration, and establish an MX record in the DNS
[01:52] <sipior> Heroin: and then set up a mail server at that ip address
[01:52] <Heroin> sipior i have a domain and my domain constains MX records
[01:53] <Heroin> ok good and how would i setup a mail server?
[01:53] <Heroin> and what options are there for mail servers?
[01:53] <h1st0> Heroin: then you need to install mail server
[01:53] <SubMOA> sipior, one more stupid question :O)  it's completely configurable, right? as in I can make a website for anything... a business if I wanted or... whatever I want... it's not blog specific with fairly inflexible template, right?
[01:53] <robe_> How I can install the "vmware tools" in ubuntu 6.10? I'm using vmware Workstation 5.5.1
[01:53] <sipior> Heroin: aptitutde install postfix
[01:53] <Heroin> and what options are there for mail servers?
[01:53] <sipior> Heroin: err..aptitude
[01:53] <Heroin> sipior you dont know know a good one of have a prefrence?
[01:53] <OuZo> i am trying to complie a program
[01:53] <IdleOne> Heroin, you can also search in Synaptic for mail Server to see what choices you have but postfix is the way to go I think
[01:53] <sipior> SubMOA: well, wordpress is not completely flexible. for a general website you'll want to go with straight web pages, i would guess
[01:54] <eL_ZaYa> www.fotolog.com/el_zaya
[01:54] <OuZo> i need qmake, were can i get it from? thanks
[01:54] <eL_ZaYa> its good ?
[01:54] <sipior> Heroin: postfix is my preference, for various reasons
[01:54] <Heroin> sipior ok i will look into postfix :) and is squirel mail a mailserver?
[01:54] <SubMOA> hmm... sipior... ok, well thank you very much for the information... I have to be off, have a good day, night, afternoon... whatever :O) truly appreciated.
[01:54] <sipior> SubMOA: best of luck with it
[01:55] <IdleOne> !info qt3-dev-tools
[01:55] <ubotu> qt3-dev-tools: Qt3 development tools. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1204 kB, installed size 4116 kB
[01:55] <sipior> Heroin: squirrel mail is not a server, no. it's a way of accessing mailboxes remotely via imap
[01:55] <IdleOne> OuZo, I believe you need qt3-dev-tools not certain though
[01:56] <sipior> Heroin: if this is your first time configuring a mail server, definitely have a look at the howto at the linux documentation project. read it carefully and be sure you understand roughly how email works
[01:56] <OuZo> IdleOne: thanks
[01:56] <ifree> erm... hello, might anyone help me with installing dual-boot xp/ubuntu cos i am really really noobie?
[01:56] <XP> ifree: u running xp already?
[01:56] <ifree> yup
[01:56] <IdleOne> !dualboot | ifree
[01:56] <ubotu> ifree: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:56] <OuZo> IdleOne: i already have that...
[01:56] <ifree> i read alr
[01:56] <flake> are binary distributables possible from ubuntu to the other distros?   are they generally trusted?
[01:57] <h1st0> flake: not exactly
[01:57] <ifree> the problem is i alread partitioned my drive, and the guide above is for non-partitioned drive
[01:57] <cerealkiller219> is there a troubleshooting guide about ubuntu locking up anywhere?
[01:57] <IdleOne> OuZo, http://doc.trolltech.com/3.0/qmake-manual-2.html check this out
[01:57] <OuZo> IdleOne: thanks :)
[01:58] <h1st0> ifree: do you have free space availible for ubuntu then?
[01:58] <robe_> ifree, I think that your best choice is VMWare workstation
[01:58] <Tarmalik> slt all
[01:58] <ifree> yup, i divide my 60gb hdd to 3 partition, windows, my data/backup partition and 12gb left for ubuntu
[01:58] <ifree> sadly the 12gb left is in NTFS, cos i used partition magic
[01:58] <Tarmalik> tous anglais ^^
[01:58] <h1st0> ifree:okay just boot to install cd and install to the 12gig free space
[01:59] <h1st0> ifree: ahh well boot the install cd and use gparted to delete the 12gb partiton and then install ubuntu there.
[01:59] <OuZo> IdleOne: it seams i already had it... qmake -v
[01:59] <OuZo> Qmake version: 1.07a (Qt 3.3.6)
[01:59] <OuZo> Qmake is free software from Trolltech AS.
[01:59] <IdleOne> hehe 
[01:59] <IdleOne> OuZo, ok then
[01:59] <h1st0> IdleOne: ?
[02:00] <ifree> h1st0: okay, i got to that part, but then they asked for some pointer thingy
[02:00] <m4n> how do I check (on bootup) if the laptop is on docking station or not ?
[02:00] <IdleOne> h1st0, ??
[02:00] <h1st0> IdleOne: nm
[02:00] <sipior> IdleOne: that an arabic smiley? love it!
[02:00] <Tarmalik> bye all
[02:00] <h1st0> ifree: which cd are you using the desktop installation cd?
[02:00] <IdleOne> sipior, not sure I just went through the character map and looked for something close to a smily face
[02:00] <OuZo> IdleOne: i have some instructions for configuring, but don't know were to change my environment variable. The environment variable QTDIR must be set to the toplevel
[02:00] <OuZo> directory where Qt is installed.
[02:01] <root__> is there a way to get a persistant home directory off a USB stick when I boot from the livecd?  Kind of like knoppix?
[02:01] <earthen> anyone know why i cannot install themes from gnome art
[02:01] <ifree> 6.10
[02:01] <root__> ouch
[02:01] <sipior> IdleOne: either arabic or pharsi, surely
[02:01] <root__> Im logged int as root
[02:01] <h1st0> ifree: if you deleted the 12gb ntfs part then you just use guided partitioning on the installer and tell it to use the free space on the drive.
[02:01] <IdleOne> sipior, probably arabic
[02:02] <ifree> h1st0: ?? can u explain further...
[02:02] <h1st0> ifree: open gparted.
[02:02] <h1st0> ifree: how much freespace is availible on the drive?
[02:02] <rkvirani> sorry, is there a way to get a persistant home dir on a USB stick when I boot off the live cd?  Kind of like knoppix has?
[02:02] <tupacamaru> #ubuntu-it
[02:02] <IdleOne> OuZo, /etc/qt3
[02:02] <^robertj> hey all, dumb question, whats the best way to get the uid of the owner of a folder for scripting purposes?
[02:02] <^robertj> can it be done with find?
[02:03] <h1st0> rkvirani: me thinks you may have to build your own iso to do that.
[02:03] <rkvirani> robert_: use ls -la and awk
[02:03] <Heroin> is postfix installed by default when installing a lamp server?
[02:03] <ifree> h1st0: 12gb for the ubuntu, clean, nothing inside there. Where is Gparted located? i was using the installation wizard
[02:03] <h1st0> Heroin: no
[02:03] <rkvirani> h1st0: I heard if you set the label to something it might work but I cant remember the details
[02:03] <h1st0> ifree: close the installation wizard
[02:03] <h1st0> ifree: we need to make sure the drive is ready first.
[02:04] <ifree> h1st0: okay, just guide me along
[02:04] <h1st0> ifree: this will make it easier.   Hit alt+f2 and type in gparted
[02:04] <ifree> okay
[02:04] <h1st0> ifree: do you see the 12gb of free space or is there a 12gb ntfs part?
[02:04] <sipior> Heroin: not sure, but a "ps aux | grep postfix" should sort things out quickly :)
[02:05] <frandavid100> hi
[02:05] <IdleOne> hello frandavid100
[02:05] <frandavid100> I need to download and install the svn version of gimmie, could someone give me a hand on that?
[02:06] <h1st0> frandavid100: they should hav einstructions on their site
[02:06] <rkvirani> hooking up openldap to samba freeradius and squid :D
[02:06] <sipior> frandavid100: yeah, specific questions are generally better
[02:06] <sipior> well, easier
[02:06] <IdleOne> !gimmie
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gimmie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <frandavid100> looks like they don't http://beatnik.infogami.com/Gimmie
[02:07] <tupacamaru> c nessuno
[02:07] <ifree> h1st0: /dev/hda1 ntfs 27gb flag boot (my windows), /dev/hda2 extended /dev/hda3/ ntsf data 32gb, /dev/hda5/ fat32 (my recovery partition/laptop build-in). /dev/hda6/ 12gb (here it is)
[02:07] <ifree> h1st0: too many too write out
[02:07] <ifree> h1st0: =/
[02:07] <tupacamaru> ninguno abla espanol
[02:07] <frandavid100> my first doubt would be where to download it, but it seems a mistery
[02:07] <frandavid100> yo
[02:07] <IdleOne> !es | tupacamaru
[02:07] <ubotu> tupacamaru: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:07] <frandavid100> privado si quieres :)
[02:07] <h1st0> ifree: okay well delete the /dev/hda6 since you don't want it.
[02:07] <h1st0> ifree: then apply the changes.
[02:07] <ifree> h1st0: delete or reformat? o.O
[02:08] <h1st0> ifree: delete
[02:08] <h1st0> ifree: You don't want it right?
[02:08] <ifree> h1st0: okay, delete it, pending operation... done
[02:08] <tupacamaru> sabes como otener live cd con opengl ativos
[02:08] <h1st0> ifree: did you apply the changes?
[02:08] <ifree> h1st0: applied
[02:08] <h1st0> ifree: oh no
[02:08] <h1st0> ifree: just kidding
[02:08] <h1st0> ifree: alright now close gparted
[02:08] <ifree> h1st0: go on
[02:09] <h1st0> ifree: and launch the installer.  Just have it use guided partitioning when it asks you.  And have it use the free space on the drive to install ubuntu.
[02:09] <orgy`> hi, my cdrom doesnt get mounted automatically when i put in a cd, what can i do abou tit?
[02:10] <ifree> h1st0: it ask for some pointer for my windows partition n my data/backup, my recovery partition... what should i put
[02:10] <rkvirani> So the consensus is that I have to build my own CD eh
[02:10] <h1st0> ?
[02:10] <ifree> h1st0: or i put the default made by ubuntu /media/hda1 hda2
[02:10] <h1st0> ifree: ahh yeah thats fine.
[02:10] <h1st0> ifree: its just asking where you want to mount those partitions on your new install.
[02:11] <h1st0> ifree: they will be mounted to /media/hda1 and /media/hda2
[02:11] <hungmanmoojoo> hello
[02:11] <h1st0> ifree: you can make it /media/windows instead of /media/hda1 if you want.
[02:11] <ifree> h1st0: okay
[02:11] <tupacamaru> qualcuno parla italiano
[02:11] <DiscoStu> gday everyone
[02:11] <XP> heya
[02:11] <ifree> h1st0: erm, how abt the swap, / , and other thing
[02:11] <IdleOne> !it | tupacamaru
[02:11] <ubotu> tupacamaru: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:12] <DiscoStu> i've got a terrible problem with tightvnc and edgy
[02:12] <h1st0> ifree: is it asking you or can you just tell it to use freespace?
[02:12] <hungmanmoojoo> what is the easiest way of installing ubuntu without cd support.. ie i cant use a cdrom drive.
[02:12] <DiscoStu> it always says: Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path.
[02:12] <DiscoStu> Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.
[02:12] <DiscoStu> Couldn't start Xtightvnc process.
[02:12] <h1st0> hungmanmoojoo: netinstall from floppy maybe?
[02:12] <tupacamaru> su ubuntu it non c nessuno
[02:12] <IdleOne> !install | hungmanmoojoo
[02:12] <ubotu> hungmanmoojoo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:12] <DiscoStu> so I did set the correct fontPath and it still dies
[02:12] <DiscoStu> any suggestions?
[02:12] <lkthomas> ikonia, you there ?
[02:13] <pitagoricus> Hi... i would like to use an ubuntu machine to provide internet access (only on port 80) to a group of office PC (running windows xp)... which is the best way to go? any help is really appreciated...
[02:13] <ifree> h1st0: i left it as u said, let it use the freespace. Cos i watch some tutorial last time, there is a part where u have to put swap, ./ and stuff
[02:13] <hungmanmoojoo> h1st0: that would be great.. but i am a complete linux noob.. and i dont know how to create ubuntu boot disks.. i have a couple fr debian.. but u want ubuntu
[02:13] <h1st0> ifree: not if you use guided partitioning it will take care of tat.
[02:13] <tupacamaru> ho bisogno di informazioni su come creare ua live cd con accelerazione grafica attivata
[02:14] <ifree> h1st0: *confused mode*
[02:14] <h1st0> hungmanmoojoo: if you check out the links from ubotu that will explain everything.
[02:14] <ifree> h1st0: so now, i just keep on clicking forward?
[02:14] <sipior> frandavid100: http://live.gnome.org/Subversion
[02:14] <IdleOne> ifree, read before clicking but yeah
[02:14] <h1st0> ifree: yeah but read what each one says.
[02:14] <sipior> frandavid100: i beleive it's a gnome module now, so...
[02:14] <michiel_> hello
[02:14] <h1st0> ifree: this is a lot easier than you think.
[02:15] <ifree> h1st0: and also, i read some scary article about GRUB loader, that install on different partition can cause windows unable to detect OS
[02:15] <michiel_> my processes are being killed by signal 8 (Floating Point Exception). Could this be because of a not working libc?
[02:15] <frandavid100> thanks sipior
[02:15] <eriksensei> /leave
[02:15] <ifree> h1st0:  and some tutorial suggest not to install Grub
[02:15] <ifree> h1st0: i am at Grub part alr
[02:15] <h1st0> ifree: that can all be fixed if that is the case but you want to install grub to mbr
[02:15] <h1st0> ifree: its better than letting xp with the boot.ini loader.
[02:15] <ifree> h1st0: so now, what do u suggest?
[02:15] <IdleOne> any info on how to create a Ubuntu Cd with graphic accellaration active?
[02:16] <tupacamaru> ho bisogno di informazioni su come creare ua live cd con accelerazione grafica attivata
[02:16] <sipior> frandavid100: might be stuck in dependancy hell, though. best of luck :)
[02:16] <GodFather> Hello ^_^
[02:16] <h1st0> ifree: let grub write to MBR if it blows up you can always recover as long as you have live cd.  Not that big of a dela.
[02:16] <GodFather> I'm downloading Knoppix atm, I only need the .iso file right?
[02:16] <h1st0> IdleOne: I thought I saw a guide to remaster the cd.  Let me see.
[02:16] <pitagoricus> has anybody experience on using squid with ubuntu on a windows xp network?
[02:16] <GodFather> :x
[02:16] <IdleOne> GodFather, yes
[02:16] <GodFather> Thanks IdleOne <3
[02:16] <ifree> h1st0: lolz, how to recover then? i am noob, you know
[02:16] <GodFather> And what do I use for chat, xchat?
[02:16] <ifree> h1st0: better clear all the doubt b4 proceed
[02:16] <GodFather> or xbitch
[02:17] <GodFather> something like that
[02:17] <spiral_shell> Hi there
[02:17] <sipior> GodFather: bitchx :-)
[02:17] <IdleOne> GodFather, xchat , bitchx irssi
[02:17] <h1st0> IdleOne: http://wiki.oss-watch.ac.uk/UbuntuDapper/Remaster
[02:17] <GodFather> Ok, thanks =)
[02:17] <tupacamaru> ho bisogno di informazioni su come creare ua live cd con accelerazione grafica attivata
[02:17] <spiral_shell> how can I send email from the CLI with attachments?
[02:17] <IdleOne> tupacamaru, un mommento estoy buscando
[02:17] <sipior> spiral_shell: which mail agent?
[02:17] <spiral_shell> mailx?
[02:17] <spiral_shell> postfix?
[02:17] <h1st0> ifree: well if it breaks boot to the live cd so you can chat with people here and we can help you.
[02:17] <DiscoStu> so no help?>
[02:17] <DiscoStu> pity :(
[02:18] <h1st0> ifree: but the installer is pretty good at what it does.
[02:18] <sipior> spiral_shell: not sure it can handle that. try mutt, you might like it better
[02:18] <GodFather> I used Suse a long time ago heh
[02:18] <jatt> spiral_shell: try nail
[02:18] <ifree> h1st0: o.O;; that's can b very troublesome... cos i am using my ffriend laptop now while letting my one installing
[02:18] <spiral_shell> jatt ok -a for attachent using nail?
[02:18] <IdleOne> tupacamaru, http://wiki.oss-watch.ac.uk/UbuntuDapper/Remaster
[02:18] <h1st0> ifree: xp is easy to recover you just boot to xp cd hit f8 and choose recover mode and type in fixmbr when you get D:\ prompt
[02:18] <IdleOne> ty h1st0
[02:18] <h1st0> ifree: grub is also easy to recover boot to live cd and reinstall it.
[02:18] <DiscoStu> cu..
[02:19] <ifree> h1st0: i am using OEM laptop. and u know, Toshiba doesnt provide recovery cd
[02:19] <tupacamaru> ho bisogno di informazioni su come creare ua live cd con accelerazione grafica attivata
[02:19] <h1st0> ifree: you are installing on a oem laptop?
[02:19] <ifree> h1st0: ya
[02:19] <GodFather> an~~
[02:19] <ifree> h1st0: tecra M5
[02:19] <slacker_nl> :P
[02:19] <IdleOne> tupacamaru, http://wiki.oss-watch.ac.uk/UbuntuDapper/Remaster
[02:20] <jatt> spiral_shell: I don't remember the exactly command line option, but I am sure nail has an option to send an attachment. (With mail I remember I used 'uuencode file | mail -s ...' to send file as attachment but it such attachments could not be read by outlook express :(). Nail avoids all those problems.
[02:20] <h1st0> ifree: well lets not worry about it unless it breaks.  There are numerous ways to fix each way.
[02:20] <tupacamaru> non c altro
[02:20] <h1st0> ifree: here look at some of these links from ubotu
[02:20] <h1st0> !grub | ifree
[02:20] <ubotu> ifree: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:20] <GodFather> heh
[02:21] <GodFather> Does linux have a HCL?
[02:21] <tupacamaru> ho bisogno di informazioni su come creare ua live cd con accelerazione grafica attivata
[02:21] <spiral_shell> jatt, I tried this : nail -s "my subject" -a /root/2007-03-15-databasebackup_2007_03_13.sql.bz2 my@email.addr
[02:21] <frandavid100> pi
[02:21] <frandavid100> sorry
[02:21] <beasty> anyone knows if there is a 'nvidia' bug in ubuntu ?
[02:21] <ifree> h1st0: alr thx h1st0, now i let it run the installation
[02:21] <spiral_shell> jatt, did not seem to work (even after apt-get install nail)
[02:21] <ifree> h1st0: hope nothing gone worng
[02:21] <ifree> h1st0: >.<
[02:21] <nicky> exit
[02:21] <ykanello> beasty: what kind of bug? what is your problem?
[02:21] <frandavid100> what package must I install to handle svn?
[02:21] <beasty> ykanello: well i just reboot my system
[02:22] <slacker_nl> frandavid100: subversion
[02:22] <deadeyes> GodFather, Hardware .. List? I think so.. where does the C stands for?
[02:22] <nicky> =)
[02:22] <beasty> and now i can't startup X anymore
[02:22] <GodFather> compatibility
[02:22] <GodFather> :)
[02:22] <ykanello> can you paste anything in priv
[02:22] <ykanello> from your X log?
[02:22] <beasty> me ?
[02:22] <frandavid100> ok, thanks slacker_nl
[02:22] <beasty> sure
[02:22] <slacker_nl> yw
[02:22] <deadeyes> GodFather, well, probably you can find one on the site of the distro
[02:22] <matthew_> is there a reason that when I play a home made DVD in totem that it will not go to the DVD menu?
[02:23] <h1st0> ifree: well as good as I am I cna't yet predict the future so we will deal with it when we get there.
[02:23] <spiral_shell> jatt, though the file is 1 meg
[02:23] <ifree> h1st0: hey, i need to return my friend lappy... If anything gone wrong, i only can get help on Sat =/
[02:23] <tupacamaru> esistre un programma per attivare accelerazione grafica
[02:23] <ifree> h1st0: cos now i got few school project to work on >.<
[02:23] <h1st0> ifree: not a problem there are plenty of people here that are very good at this.
[02:24] <ifree> h1st0: but many thanks h1st0. You have been very courteous and helpful
[02:24] <ifree> h1st0: i am deeply appreciated
[02:24] <sipior> spiral_shell: try adding a -v and see what it says
[02:24] <ifree> h1st0: last but not least before we part, pray that my Laptop can be installed ubuntu...
[02:24] <beasty> ykanello: what do you want me to paste ?
[02:24] <tupacamaru> esiste un configuratore grafico di xorg per gnome
[02:25] <ykanello> either /var/log/Xorg.log
[02:25] <beasty> tupacamaru: english
[02:25] <beasty> ykanello: i'll paste you this
[02:25] <beasty> wich is very weird
[02:25] <ykanello> or $HOME/.xsession-errors
[02:25] <frandavid100> and well, if the repo's address is http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gimmie/, what should be the commandline to download it and work with it? svn add http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gimmie/ does not work...
[02:25] <sipior> tupacamaru: you can chat in whatever language you like, but if you care for a useful reply... :-)
[02:26] <tupacamaru> non mi interessanio le osservazioni politiche
[02:26] <sipior> frandavid100: svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gimmie, or something like that
[02:26] <kakarot> where can i find and install compiz cgwd themes?
[02:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> ummm google it?
[02:26] <tupacamaru> esiste un configuratore grafico di xorg per gnome
[02:26] <frandavid100> right, it was the co part what I was not doing right
[02:26] <frandavid100> thanks sipior
[02:27] <beasty> ykanello: i just paste it to you
[02:27] <ykanello> beasty: i saw
[02:27] <ykanello> i reply there...
[02:27] <beasty> ok
[02:28] <seshomaru1234> hi , i want to download the package conky (for dapper) manually with firefox , can anyone tell me how to find it?
[02:28] <IdleOne> h1st0, that Ubuntu Remaster link you gave me just gave me a new project to work on  thanks dude
[02:28] <spiral_shell> jatt, did not seem to give output...just hangs
[02:28] <alvarezp> Where is the config option for setting update-manager to download 2 (or more) files at a time?
[02:28] <sipior> spiral_shell: maybe try with a smaller attachment?
[02:29] <spiral_shell> sipior I am even having trouble without an attachment
[02:29] <razzorz> can someone tell me besides the keyboard shortcuts... how to disable the shift /backspace logoff
[02:29] <sipior> spiral_shell: are you running a transfer agent? (sendmail, postfix &cet.)
[02:29] <h1st0> IdleOne: np  Yeah I don't know if there is a better howto floating around.
[02:29] <spiral_shell> sendmail
[02:29] <spiral_shell> no..
[02:29] <spiral_shell> postfix
[02:29] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: google for conky (its at conky.sf.net)
[02:30] <sipior> spiral_shell: and it hangs only if you specify -v?
[02:30] <ykanello> slacker_nl: yes conky is cooll
[02:30] <linuXxXx> is there anyone who can help me to configure masquerading/ip-forwarding? plz qry me
[02:30] <jatt> spiral_shell: hmm.... strange are you sure you are not missing an option or flag? Unfortunately I don't have nail installed on my machine now. Can you try with a smaller attachment (1MB<<)?
[02:30] <slacker_nl> ykanello: it sure is :)
[02:30] <seshomaru1234> slacker_nl,  i want the dapper package specificaly
[02:30] <spiral_shell> jatt, yes, but not working even with no attachment
[02:31] <IdleOne> h1st0, that howto doesnt seem so complicated to follow. think I just might make myself a Ubuntu-Idle.iso 
[02:31] <spiral_shell> jatt, nail  -s"test" tech101@gmail.com "test"
[02:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> !fiesty
[02:31] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:31] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: in firefox where you have the google search box
[02:31] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: you can select ubuntu packages
[02:31] <razzorz> if there is a way? besides the keyboard shorcuts
[02:31] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: search for conky overthere
[02:32] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: why don't you do a aptitude download conky?
[02:32] <dfgas> anyone using a amd TURION64?
[02:32] <seshomaru1234> slacker_nl, cause i want to use it on debian etch
[02:33] <matthew_> is there a reason that when I play a home made DVD in totem that it will not go to the DVD menu?
[02:33] <ykanello> seshomaru1234: get alien working
[02:33] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: why don't you download the debian package for it then?
[02:33] <jatt> spiral_shell: I just tried and I think there is something wrong in how you are calling nail. Try to type Ctrl+C when it is hanging it will display:
[02:33] <jatt> (Interrupt -- one more to kill letter)
[02:33] <sipior> spiral_shell: youhave to redirect standard in
[02:33] <sipior> spiff: nail -t blah < message
[02:33] <jatt> right
[02:33] <spiral_shell> ok
[02:34] <seshomaru1234> slacker_nl, the debian package has some sort of a bug that makes desktop items disappera but at the forum they suggested to use the dapper pacakages
[02:34] <sipior> sorry spiff, bad tab-complete :)
[02:34] <jatt> spiral_shell: or
[02:34] <thiesen> is there any easy GUIfied application to mount ISO's??
[02:34] <jatt> echo "test" | nail  -s "test" tech101@gmail.com
[02:34] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: ahh, ok :)
[02:35] <seshomaru1234> slacker_nl, i cant find a package search option in firefox
[02:35] <flake> in my gnome Applications menu, is grouping of the games possible instead of having one long scrolling list to go up and down with?
[02:35] <tupacamaru>  esiste un configuratore grafico di xorg per gnome
[02:35] <Ant1moN> hi! did you all do this one? about linux on Dell: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux?s=corp
[02:35] <sipior> tupacamaru: no comprende
[02:35] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/utils/conky
[02:36] <flake> and what does add this as drawer / add this as menu do?
[02:36] <seshomaru1234> slacker_nl, thanks , but how did you find it?
[02:36] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: conky dapper package ;)
[02:36] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: in google
[02:36] <sipior> tupacamaru: and no, i don't believe there is
[02:37] <seshomaru1234> slacker_nl,  oh dear ,s o emberessing...
[02:37] <flake> I see my Wine / Programs are grouped
[02:37] <seshomaru1234> slacker_nl, thanks!
[02:38] <usurp> i deleted vm player without uninstalling it now i cant install vm server i deleted the reg files too what else to i have to delete?
[02:38] <slacker_nl> seshomaru1234: yw dude :)
[02:38] <ykanello> slacker_nl: go home and I will go to
[02:38] <thiesen> is there any easy GUIfied application to mount ISO's??
[02:38] <tupacamaru>  esiste un configuratore grafico di xorg per gnome
[02:38] <sipior> tupacamaru: no!
[02:38] <ykanello> anyone has used any ubuntu on Sparc?
[02:39] <slacker_nl> usurp: i think its because of some file still present in /etc/vmware
[02:39] <Helmi> hi guys - today the parcel service brought a new graphics adapter. currently i have a ATI Radeon inside my pc - the new one is a nvidia geforce. how whould i preceed in changing boths? how could i get this managed without loosing X working?
[02:39] <tupacamaru> sipior non starmi col fiato sul collo
[02:39] <usurp> im using windows
[02:39] <spiral_shell> jatt and sipior  thanks very much, it works now!
[02:40] <beasty> ykanello: did you replied ?
[02:40] <sipior> spiral_shell: great
[02:40] <usurp> slacker do u use windows
[02:40] <ykanello> beasty: you haven't check my replies?
[02:40] <sipior> tupacamaru: no comprende espanol!
[02:40] <slacker_nl> usurp: uhm.. this is #ubuntu, not #ms-windows
[02:40] <usurp> im trying to install ubuntu on windows
[02:40] <finalbeta> it's ##windows
[02:40] <usurp> so...
[02:41] <slacker_nl> usurp: this problem is still not related to ubuntu
[02:41] <slacker_nl> usurp: its related to vmware on windows
[02:41] <beasty> ykanello: i didn't receive any
[02:41] <tupacamaru> abas espanol y lo entiendo
[02:41] <ykanello> beasty: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28NVIDIA.29
[02:41] <beasty> ykanello: are you authed ?
[02:41] <finalbeta> usurp: what slacker_nl means is that the installer from ubuntu on windows is not an official tool.
[02:41] <fnf> usurp: so it is relatedto vmwae and Windows, not Ubuntu
[02:41] <ykanello> beasty: yes
[02:41] <spiral_shell> is there a way that I can run through a directory and find the name of a file with the most recent time? i.e. mysql_2007-03-14-22:37:01.bak.sql.bz2
[02:41] <Trist_an> I have a trouble with Beryl : my window menus are appearing behind the windpw
[02:42] <Trist_an> Anyone knows how to fix this?
[02:42] <beasty> weird i didn't receive any of your replies
[02:42] <usurp> i just want some help if you guys arent windows savvy then tell me
[02:42] <slacker_nl> finalbeta: that's not what I ment, but its close :)
[02:42] <fnf> Trist_an: no clue, but you should ask on #beryl
[02:42] <fnf> usurp: can you repeat the question ?
[02:42] <flake> if I were to do away with my Applications / places / menu bar and just use a gdesklet taskbar, would that be safe to do without crashing my default gnome session?
[02:43] <ykanello> usurp: the only windows that I know usurp are the ones in my living room.
[02:43] <thiesen> is there any easy GUIfied application to mount/unmount ISO's??
[02:43] <tupacamaru>  sipior non starmi col fiato sul collo non sono qui per pare politica (il vizio degli italiani)
[02:44] <ykanello> thiesen: there is a gnome applet thingi
[02:44] <tupacamaru> esiste un configuratore grafico di xorg per gnome
[02:44] <sipior> okay, time to add tupacamaru to the old kill file...
[02:44] <thiesen> ykanello: there is??? *checking*
[02:44] <ykanello> thiesen: lemmy check
[02:44] <slacker_nl> thiesen: gisomount of kiso perhaps?
[02:45] <flake> if I were to close the main panel in gnome, could I get it back and if so how?
[02:45] <finalbeta> What's the purpose of the Lost+Found folders in the root of file systems? I'm thinking this is just a gparted folder I can safely remove.
[02:45] <thiesen> slacker_nl: checking...
[02:45] <flake> would it be start kicker or something?
[02:45] <usurp> i deleted wmware player and wanted to install vm server but it said wmware was already installed (i didnt use to uninstall feature) so now i have to dig and find all the files
[02:46] <ykanello> thiesen: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-194889.html
[02:46] <ykanello> thiesen: there is a work around include a script in nautilus
[02:46] <fnf> flake: you must leave at least one panel in GNOME
[02:46] <ykanello> thiesen: so it works with right click
[02:46] <OuZo> is there a count down timer for ubuntu that will play a sound when time is up? thanks
[02:46] <frandavid100> hi again guys
[02:46] <thiesen> ykanello: gonna check it... ty
[02:47] <thiesen> slacker_nl: ty to you to... :-)
[02:47] <flake> k then running a gdesklet app bar can be a little pointless
[02:47] <frandavid100> I'm trying to compile gimmie svn, but I get this error:some autoconf macros required to build gimmie  were not found in your aclocal path, or some forbidden  macros were found.  Perhaps you need to adjust your  ACLOCAL_FLAGS?
[02:47] <fnf> flake: GNOME without the panel is not in anyway better than plain metacity.
[02:47] <beasty> ok updating now
[02:47] <ctrl_x> How do i check my Bandwidth speed (i have ADSL Modem 256 Kbps)
[02:47] <ykanello> beasty: cool :)
[02:47] <frandavid100> anyone knows how I can do that?
[02:48] <beasty> thx ykanello
[02:48] <sipior> frandavid100: you probably have to run autoconf first
[02:48] <flake> fnf - looking for something minimalist like gnome but slightly cooler looking
[02:48] <ykanello> beasty: don't mention it
[02:48] <sipior> frandavid100: are there build instructions for the checkout?
[02:48] <frandavid100> let me see
[02:49] <fnf> flake: eh, I wouldn't call GNOME is minimalist. If you want something cool-looking, try enlightenment, IceWM or pretty much all WMs outthere support theming.
[02:49] <sipior> frandavid100: should be in a file called INSTALL, or README
[02:49] <flake> i meant minimalist as in resources
[02:49] <ctrl_x> How do i check my Bandwidth speed (i have ADSL Modem 256 Kbps)
[02:49] <frandavid100> says I need to install GTK+2 devel headers and PyGTK devel first, will check if I have those
[02:49] <flake> if that's how you took it
[02:49] <Sp4rKy> flake Enlightenment is the best :D
[02:49] <ctrl_x> sipior, how??
[02:50] <fnf> flake: then switch to a WM instead of DE, IceWM might be suitable.
[02:50] <fnf> flake: or metacity.
[02:50] <sipior> ctrl_x: how what? damn it, my psychic powers are weakening!
[02:51] <flake> ok thanks
[02:51] <ctrl_x> sipior, How do i check my Bandwidth speed (i have ADSL Modem 256 Kbps)
[02:51] <beasty> brb reboot
[02:51] <Nooobuntu> hi does anyone use bluefish?
[02:51] <sipior> ctrl_x: not really sure. transfer a bunch of files up and down, and see what the typical speed is.
[02:52] <sipior> ctrl_x: that's a practical measure, at least
[02:52] <ctrl_x> sipior, ok, but is there any terminal command from where i can see mybandwidth use
[02:52] <sipior> ctrl_x: yes, wget should show it, as does curl, iirc
[02:52] <sfhsfj> hey
[02:53] <sfhsfj> i cant remote into my linux server since i rebooted
[02:53] <ctrl_x> sipior, like we use in microsoft Bandwidth monitor application we use
[02:53] <ctrl_x> sipior, only wget
[02:54] <fnf> ctrl_x: ifconfig
[02:54] <fnf> ctrl_x: or netstat
[02:54] <sfhsfj> how do i start remote desktop via ssh
[02:55] <fnf> sfhsfj: Remote Desktop is Windows term, ssh is called remote login and without the GUI.
[02:55] <sfhsfj> yeah
[02:55] <sfhsfj> but how do i start it so i can login via VNC
[02:55] <ctrl_x> sipior, ok thanx. one more thing Bittorrent client installed in my ubuntu but where it is located
[02:55] <sfhsfj> i installed vnc-common tightvnc
[02:55] <ctrl_x> sipior, where is the program icon
[02:56] <beasty> damn
[02:56] <beasty> it worked
[02:56] <fnf> sfhsfj: you install a VNC server on the server, ssh into the server then start a VNC session from there. Finally you connect to the server via a VNC client.
[02:57] <ctrl_x> sipior, Do u know any site where i find all these command , i think i am bugging you... : (
[02:57] <erstazi> ctrl_x: Applications > Internet > BitTorrent
[02:57] <sfhsfj> fnf, how do i start it
[02:57] <CheshireViking> ctrl_x, try this for checking your bandwidth speed - http://www.bandwidthplace.com/
[02:57] <fnf> sfhsfj: what is your VNC server ?
[02:57] <ctrl_x> erstazi, its not there i checked
[02:58] <sfhsfj> tightvnc
[02:58] <AlbertK> am I able to run my monitor with 85 refresh rate on 1600/1200 even though ubuntu doesn't offer it at this refresh rate?
[02:58] <milanm> for the last frickin hour I've been trying to up the refresh rate from 60 Hz to 85 Hz. Can anyone help me? My eyes are bleeding :(
[02:58] <ctrl_x> erstazi, and i check synaptis there it showed me installed in system
[02:58] <m1_r0> hey hrvati
[02:58] <erstazi> what package did you install?
[02:58] <milanm> AlbertK, same question
[02:58] <sfhsfj> i did apt-get install vnc-common tightvnc
[02:59] <ctrl_x> erstazi, : (
[02:59] <erstazi> ctrl_x: what package did you install?
[02:59] <PingFloyd> milanm: set is with VertRefresh under Monitor Section in your xorg.conf
[02:59] <KomiaPoika> milanm: vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:59] <ctrl_x> erstazi, ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[03:00] <fnf> sfhsfj: wait a minute.
[03:00] <sfhsfj> ty
[03:00] <stork> !wmv
[03:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:00] <noodles12> i have a usb wireless thingy with 0bda:8189 Realtek chipset. This should be supported by the generic kernel but it does not auto detect and sudo modprobe doesn't do anything.
[03:01] <erstazi> ctrl_x: go back into Synaptic Package Manager and reinstall bittorrent
[03:01] <fnf> sfhsfj: is tightvnc preinstall in GNOME ?.
[03:01] <rkvirani> clear
[03:01] <rkvirani> ls
[03:01] <rkvirani> not the terminal window
[03:02] <erstazi> rkvirani: heh
[03:02] <ctrl_x> erstazi, ok, there is green square small box
[03:02] <nugenoa> My ubuntu booted up one time =[
[03:02] <ctrl_x> erstazi, showing it installed
[03:02] <sfhsfj> fnf, yes, im sure it is
[03:02] <erstazi> ctrl_x: right click and reinstall
[03:02] <fnf> sfhsfj: if you want to start a VNC session with ssh, you should install vncserver instead. tightvnc VNC session will only be available when a GNOME session is running.
[03:02] <ctrl_x> erstazi, Okay
[03:02] <rkvirani> mmmm FreeBSD :D
[03:03] <sfhsfj> damn
[03:03] <sfhsfj> how do i install the normal one#
[03:03] <sfhsfj> apt-gwet install vncserver?
[03:03] <fnf> sfhsfj: sudo apt-get install vncserver
[03:03] <Heroin> vnc... ew
[03:03] <fnf> sfhsfj: yup.
[03:03] <Heroin> use ssh
[03:04] <cgnboy> hi. where i found the german channel 4 kubuntu ?
[03:04] <akshay> hi
[03:04] <falco_> hi all
[03:04] <kakarot> will emerald work with compiz? or is it just for beryl?
[03:04] <UB`> kakarot only for beryl
[03:04] <wolferine> what do I type to install the jvm?
[03:04] <rkvirani> hello falco_
[03:04] <kakarot> UB`, anything for compiz?
[03:04] <ctrl_x> erstazi, okay let me reinstall it
[03:04] <dfgas> anyone using linux on a amd turion64?
[03:04] <rkvirani> wolferine: the sun jvm?
[03:05] <sfhsfj> fnf, can we talk in #ubuntu-classroom? it is much quieter
[03:05] <UB`> compiz havent a own theme manager yet
[03:05] <fnf> sfhsfj: ok
[03:05] <rkvirani> you have to enable the multiverse repository then, apt-cache search sun-java and pick the one you want
[03:05] <wolferine> correct rkvirani
[03:05] <RobHu> Is it possible to put the Ubuntu installer on a USB device (e.g. a memory stick), boot off that, and then install from the stick? If so is there an example somewhere of how one might do that?
[03:05] <wolferine> sun-java, thanks
[03:05] <rkvirani> wolferine: no probs
[03:06] <erstazi> rkvirani: thats rare, most companies don't let you use open source
[03:06] <falco_> rkvirani hi i am new on IRC .... :D
[03:06] <falco_> and my english is not good :)
[03:07] <rkvirani> erstazi: yea, Im a developer and I do some sysadmin so they let me :) Plus Im in charge of alot of the serverside open source software
[03:07] <rkvirani> well not in charge of but do the support for ...
[03:07] <rkvirani> Its nice to be able to run what I want
[03:08] <rkvirani> I think its more of a matter of the support people not wanting all kinds of questions on how do I do this or that or the other ... or if someone installs linux and then complains they cant do their work etc...
[03:08] <wolferine> hmm, I dont see the jvm in here?
[03:08] <sbn> Is *.rm supported ?
[03:08] <rm_you> ?
[03:08] <rm_you> to play?
[03:08] <wolferine> is it maybe an addon for FF?
[03:09] <rm_you> Those are Realmedia files
[03:09] <rkvirani> wolferine: no
[03:09] <IdleOne> wolferine, you trying to install sun-java5-jre?
[03:09] <rkvirani> its not
[03:09] <wolferine> jvm
[03:09] <sbn> rm_you yeah to play
[03:09] <rkvirani> yeah thats what he wants
[03:09] <rkvirani> he just doesnt know it yet :D
[03:09] <rm_you> Yeah, they should play in Realplayer if not mplayer or vlc
[03:09] <wolferine> i need the jre for the jvm?
[03:10] <preaction> wolferine: jre is the Java Runtime Environment, which is yes
[03:10] <IdleOne> wolferine, you need to sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugins
[03:10] <IdleOne> and you should be good to go
[03:10] <preaction> wolferine: the jdk is the Java Development Kit, which also includes javac and jar (and other developer tools)
[03:10] <wolferine> thought that was in the sdk?
[03:10] <alienseer23>  is there a way to extract the contents of an ".exe" file?
[03:11] <sbn> rm_you is there a plugin for Totem Movie Player
[03:11] <rkvirani> wolferine: jdk?
[03:11] <wolferine> oh no wait, your right
[03:11] <rm_you> sbn: no idea, I hate totem :P
[03:11] <preaction> alienseer23: it's called decompile, and good luck. you'll need it.
[03:11] <alienseer23> ugh
[03:12] <alienseer23> ok,thanks
[03:12] <yukito> hmmm, I'm about to upgrade to feisty
[03:12] <TelVGG-Ariel> hi folks. Anyone knows if its possible to reinstall entirely the apt system? (the binaries was corrupted in a disk failure)
[03:12] <yukito> but I use several edgy-only repositories for certain packages
[03:13] <IdleOne> yukito, be prepared for possible breakage
[03:13] <yukito> like flash 9
[03:13] <TelVGG-Ariel> any apt-* command returns segment violation
[03:13] <IdleOne> yukito, then dont upgrade
[03:13] <juan_> shutdown firestarter
[03:13] <yukito> if I upgrade, I'll lose those packages, right?
[03:13] <grndslm> yukito:  why upgrade to feisty?
[03:13] <IdleOne> yukito, you probably will yes
[03:13] <yukito> I need to update a few libraries to run some packages I need (or want)
[03:13] <cc\\dox> rge.net
[03:14] <DShepherd> yukito, feisty is not supported in this channel.. or maybe not at all.. as in #ubuntu+1
[03:14] <rm_you> TelVGG-Ariel: yeah, go to packages.ubuntu.com, download the packages you need manually, and install them with dpkg -i --reinstall whatever.deb
[03:14] <diablosjp> dentify
[03:14] <chaos_personifie> quick question regarding beryl.. how does one start the cube effects? i have them enabled but can't figure out how to get nautilus to move
[03:14] <rm_you> TelVGG-Ariel: dependencies are normally a pain in the ass, but since you're only reinstalling, it won't be a problem ;P
[03:14] <IdleOne> chaos_personifie, #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[03:15] <chaos_personifie> beryl running in xgl
[03:15] <AlbertK> hi, how can i activate 85 hrz for 1600/1200?
[03:15] <rm_you> chaos_personifie: maybe head over to #beryl? :P
[03:15] <chaos_personifie> Alrbertk .. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:18] <AlbertK> chaos_personifie: thx
[03:19] <efro75> hello all... I new to the linux world. how can I get help with ubuntu on a dell latitud d610 laptop?
[03:19] <erstazi> rkvirani: you refer to open source server side... so that means you deal with php and the likes?
[03:20] <wolferine> what is a good app for adding system montiors to my desktop (within BEryl) ?
[03:20] <secureboot> anyone know how to install eclipse WITHOUT java-gcj-compat?  It makes SSL plugins bomb...
[03:20] <rkvirani> erstazi: yes
[03:20] <secureboot> i need to use actual java - but ubuntu makes me use gcj
[03:21] <rkvirani> php mysql python bash some java stuff etc...
[03:21] <preaction> !java | secureboot
[03:21] <ubotu> secureboot: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:21] <derspankster> efro75: try here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:21] <UB`> wolferine system monitor?
[03:21] <erstazi> rkvirani: I think I will need to upgrade php on my server
[03:21] <rkvirani> erstazi: ahh
[03:22] <wolferine> yeah, monitors, everything, diskspace, RAM usage, network traffic
[03:22] <erstazi> rkvirani: just a tad wary about doing such though
[03:22] <UB`> wolferine aptitude install gnome-system-monitor
[03:22] <rkvirani> did you use a binary package? or did you compile from source
[03:22] <rkvirani> what version of PHP are you running?
[03:22] <derspankster> efro75, look here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:22] <wolferine> work with Beryl?
[03:22] <UB`> yes why not
[03:23] <wolferine> well, some dont work WELL with it
[03:23] <erstazi> rkvirani: problem is, I am not the original person who put up the server
[03:23] <UB`> it's an app and an applet
[03:23] <wolferine> whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude, when installing?
[03:23] <erstazi> rkvirani: the other guy left with no regulated documentation (part of the rules) and its php 4.3.11
[03:24] <rkvirani> erstazi: hrm, what a looser
[03:24] <rkvirani> loosers dont document, people that are usually insecure about their job security,
[03:24] <rkvirani> erstazi: find how where php is installed
[03:24] <rkvirani> you can probably tell
[03:24] <rkvirani> what kind of a server is it? What Operating System?
[03:25] <juan_> shutdown firestarter
[03:25] <UB`> wolferine minor difference one (apitude) it's more recent then other
[03:25] <erstazi> rkvirani: have you heard of ionbreaker? the OS is CentOS, you know that dirty cousin of RedHat
[03:25] <juan_> alguien sabe como areglar este problema en una geforce 5200 habro el glxgears y en ves de aparecer los engranges aparece en negro y despues se sierra tengo los ultimos drivers instalados pero los juegos arancan pero no se ven
[03:25] <rkvirani> CentOS is not a dirty cousing
[03:25] <rkvirani> cousin
[03:25] <UB`> wolferine with aptitude you can search e show package with apt you need use apt-cache instead of apt-get
[03:25] <erstazi> rkvirani: I am being sarcastic
[03:25] <rkvirani> its compiled right off the .srpms of RHEL
[03:25] <rkvirani> ok
[03:25] <grndslm> chaos_personifie: ctrl+alt+left/right to rotate...add a shift key in there to move a window while rotating
[03:25] <rkvirani> alright... I have not heard of ionbreaker
[03:25] <rkvirani> so basically check how php was installed
[03:26] <erstazi> rkvirani: I might just find a day of low time and just put ubuntu server on it
[03:26] <rkvirani> rpm -qa | grep php
[03:26] <wolferine> maybe ill just read about it :)
[03:26] <rkvirani> if that returns a package, you know he installed the RPMS
[03:26] <secureboot> preaction, i've got sun's jre installed already - i just can't make eclipse use it, even with those instructions
[03:26] <rkvirani> then find the new RPMS and do a rpm -Uvh
[03:26] <UB`> wolferine good thing :)
[03:26] <secureboot> it seems like eclipse ignores /etc/jvm and update-alternatives
[03:26] <secureboot> i used to be able to just uninstall java-gcj-compat, and it worked
[03:26] <rkvirani> But if he didnt then do a updatedb && locate bin/php
[03:26] <secureboot> but not eclipse depends on that, for whatever reason
[03:27] <preaction> secureboot: update-alternatives changes the link to /usr/bin/java to point to the correct alternative. eclipse should be calling /usr/bin/java to start itself
[03:27] <rkvirani> and find how where he installed it, if it wasnt an RPM chances are he compiled it from source which is a little more involved.  I can tell you that if he used RPMS he probably wasnt the smartest cookie :D
[03:27] <rkvirani> (which is probably why he left you no documentation)
[03:28] <secureboot> preaction, well, that doesn't seem to be the case
[03:28] <kakarot> !xgl
[03:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:28] <kakarot> !aiglx
[03:28] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[03:28] <preaction> secureboot: paste the result of: ls -l /usr/bin/java
[03:28] <dahoople> Trying to mount a loop device.  mkdir -p /mnt/loop,  mount -o loop linux /mnt/loop  Error is "mount: you must specify the filesystem type". Tried various -t parms (ext2, ext3, iso9660).   Any ideas?
[03:28] <secureboot> preaction, the links are set up appropriately, however - /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[03:28] <preaction> secureboot: and what's wrong with that?
[03:29] <UB`> dahoople what is "linux"?
[03:29] <GodFather> oh right
[03:29] <GodFather> xchat wont install
[03:29] <GodFather> bc it needs a root password..?
[03:29] <kakarot> how do i know which way to go when installing beryl: aiglx or xgl?
[03:29] <UB`> dahoople try "file linux" to discover what is it
[03:29] <dahoople> unzipped imaging kernel (Novell ZEN).  need to add a driver
[03:29] <secureboot> preaction, eclipse doesn't use java-6-sun when it starts
[03:29] <GodFather> I know what a root password is
[03:29] <GodFather> but I got none loll=
[03:29] <secureboot> preaction, it still uses some gcj thing
[03:29] <kishore> friends, i am having trouble with bluetooth pairing with my phone. It always fails
[03:29] <UB`> kakarot it depends on your video card
[03:30] <kishore> i use Kubuntu feisty
[03:30] <secureboot> preaction, unless i give it a command line arg, which i dont' want to do eveyr time
[03:30] <kakarot> UB`, quadro nvs 110m (geforce 7300)
[03:30] <UB`> kakarot may be you have to look at Nvidia+XGL
[03:30] <preaction> secureboot: make a menu item that gives it that command line arg? sounds like it's a bug in eclipse, or in the package
[03:30] <dahoople> UB: returns Minix files system (learned something new)
[03:30] <UB`> but I dont know so much I run Intel with AIGLX
[03:31] <dirken> someone using VirtualBox with a XP guest????
[03:31] <XP> dirken: me
[03:31] <erstazi> rkvirani: php-4.3.11-8.rhel3.art
[03:31] <preaction> !anyone | dirken
[03:31] <ubotu> dirken: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:31] <schmakk> anyone found a fix for the 100% fan with ati x800 binary driver?
[03:31] <kakarot> UB`, in theory, which gives better results? (faster/less buggy)
[03:31] <UB`> dahoople well so try with -t minix
[03:32] <wolferine> wow
[03:32] <erstazi> rkvirani: I don't want to distrupt #ubuntu rules but thank you for your help
[03:32] <wolferine> this gnome-system-monitor is really boring
[03:32] <dahoople> Just did and it worked!  Thanks!
[03:32] <erstazi> rkvirani: the help is much appreciated
[03:32] <dirken> Well here's it is: I want to use shared folders an can correctly set it up but from my win XP I can't access the VB network :s
[03:32] <rkvirani> erstazi: what do you mean disrpupt?
[03:32] <UB`> kakarot depend on your video card if you can use XGL instead of AIGLX, but imho AIGLX is more performant
[03:32] <XP> dirken: did u read the documentation?
[03:33] <sexie> hi guys. :)
[03:33] <dirken> XP: yes but didn't work
[03:33] <wolferine> I was thinking something more like gDesklets
[03:33] <XP> oic
[03:33] <UB`> kakarot try search XGL and AIGLX on wikipedia and you got all the answer :)
[03:33] <erstazi> rkvirani: discussion opposite of ubuntu
[03:33] <XP> it worked for me ~_~
[03:33] <rkvirani> sexie: hi old man
[03:33] <sexie> sorry to bug you but does anyne know some developer IRC channels.
[03:33] <kakarot> thanks UB`
[03:33] <UB`> welcome
[03:33] <preaction> sexie: try a /list
[03:33] <rkvirani> erstazi: RHEL isnt the opposite of ubuntu, lol its just inferior
[03:33] <grndslm> sexie:  general development??
[03:33] <grndslm> c++ development?
[03:33] <dirken> XP: I also tried to access my usb stick but even that didn't work :/
[03:34] <erstazi> rkvirani: at least RHEL doesn't win any popularity contests, but I haven't had a problem with it yet
[03:34] <XP> hmm
[03:34] <UB`> wolferine try add the system monitor applet
[03:34] <rkvirani> It uses RPM
[03:34] <XP> how did u install virtualbox?
[03:34] <erstazi> rkvirani: it does its dirty job and does it well
[03:34] <wolferine> sexie, try xchat-gnome
[03:34] <sexie> actually,  i'm lookig for some DFDs of what goes behind blogs and forums.
[03:34] <rkvirani> it sucks :D
[03:34] <XP> thru the deb or from source?
[03:34] <dirken> XP: via automatix
[03:34] <UB`> wolferine right click on a panel and click ADD search for monitor
[03:34] <XP> oic
[03:34] <wolferine> applet UB?
[03:34] <UB`> yes
[03:34] <XP> that should be the deb rite? :P
[03:34] <UB`> gnome applet
[03:34] <rkvirani> sorry, spend enough time using any RPM based distro and you will appreciate portage apt-get ports etc...
[03:34] <erstazi> rkvirani: I am a one man show on the server, no one else touches it
[03:35] <sexie> from scratch. i.,e create a new forum and blog software
[03:35] <dirken> XP: I guess so but i am not sure automatix uses the deb
[03:35] <erstazi> rkvirani: why do you think I use ubuntu at home?
[03:35] <XP> hmm
[03:35] <erstazi> rkvirani: updates are a pain sometimes on RHEL
[03:35] <XP> i installed the deb
[03:35] <dirken> XP: or my network should work or my USB, i don't care but i want one of them to work
[03:35] <XP> follow the steps and they work
[03:35] <rkvirani> yep
[03:35] <XP> did u enable usb mounting?
[03:35] <XP> lemme start my virtual box
[03:35] <XP> hang on a sec
[03:35] <erstazi> rkvirani: the biggest problem is there are 357 sites on the server
[03:36] <dirken> XP: No, really followed the manual steps, It is enabled yes
[03:36] <erstazi> rkvirani: I don't want to update php to a version that will cause people's scripts to error
[03:36] <XP> ok
[03:36] <sorush20> how do I fidout what device my usb mp3 player is
[03:36] <erstazi> rkvirani: I might just upgrade to 4.4.*
[03:37] <erstazi> rkvirani: thank you for the help it has been much appreciated, I must go now though
[03:37] <dirken> XP: in you VM can you access the VirtualBox Shared Folders network?
[03:37] <MKR> sorush20, run tail -f /var/log/messages in a console window and see which device pops up when you plug it in
[03:37] <wolferine> nah, thats not really exciting either
[03:38] <XP> dirken: yes dude, i mapped it to my home dir and it worked
[03:38] <_Rappy_> how do i split a tar.gz file?
[03:38] <rkvirani> lol I loaded up Internet Explorer for mac an killed my macbook hahaha
[03:38] <sorush20> MKR: you sure you gave me the right code?
[03:39] <dirken> with this command: VBoxManage sharedfolder add "WindowsXP" -name "temp" -hostpath "/home/dirk/temp/"
[03:39] <kane77> has anybody tried centOS?
[03:39] <preaction_> _Rappy_: open it in file roller?
[03:39] <sorush20> camera://Creative Zen Vision@[usb:005,011] /
[03:39] <sorush20> this is what I keep getting
[03:39] <MKR> sorush20, that should do it. That makes the tail command watch for changes to the messages log
[03:39] <beni_> rkvirani: hehe, why did you load it?
[03:39] <preaction_> kane77: i have, it sucks. apt based distros are so much easier
[03:39] <rkvirani> erstazi: no problem
[03:39] <rkvirani> beni_: I wanted to see how much it sucked
[03:39] <rkvirani> and I found out
[03:39] <wolferine> anyone know of a good system monitor (must work in Beryl), for adding monitors to the desktop?
[03:39] <kane77> preaction_, I want it instead of XP, not instead ubuntu
[03:40] <beni_> in case I'd have a macbook I'd never ever install Redmont SW on it ;)
[03:40] <sorush20> MKR: I can't make sense of what is writtten I think its to do with me my network
[03:40] <sorush20> how do I manually mount it
[03:40] <MKR> sorush20, it has nothing to do with your network. /var/log/messages should show a very distinct message when you plug the device in
[03:40] <preaction_> kane77: then why are you asking in an ubuntu support channel?
[03:40] <MKR> Somwthing like "device found on /dev/whatever"
[03:40] <kane77> preaction_: hmm.. dunno...
[03:40] <MKR> *something
[03:41] <rkvirani> beni_: ah live a little
[03:41] <dirken> XP: maybe you know if it is possible to mount a fysical hard drive in Virtual Box?
[03:41] <rkvirani> I wish I could get ubuntu on this thing though
[03:41] <beni_> rkvirani:  ;)
[03:41] <rkvirani> Its a nice peice of hardware
[03:41] <soweto76> I appended "profile" to the linux command line at the grup prompt and the system seemed to profile the startup sequence.  How can I reverse that "profile"?
[03:41] <sorush20> MKR: here is a line of what I get Mar 14 14:40:53 sorush4-desktop kernel: [17456214.760000]  Inbound IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:0c:41:61:1a:48:00:14:7f:68:f3:41:08:00 SRC=76.183.228.154 DST=192.168.
[03:41] <XP> dirken: never tried, after all, the sharing worked for me :(
[03:41] <_Rappy_> preaction : thanks :)
[03:41] <MKR> sorush20, that's iptables (linux's firewall) telling you something tried to connect to your computer from the network
[03:41] <dirken> XP: deam, but thanks!
[03:41] <MKR> That's not the USB device
[03:42] <c1|freaky> does anyone know of a page where i can find all kind of additional apt repositories for ubuntu?
[03:42] <kane77> !sourceomatic
[03:42] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:42] <sorush20> Here is what I see about my device3 Mar 14 14:41:37 sorush4-desktop kernel: [17456258.964000]  usb 5-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12
[03:42] <MKR> That's it
[03:42] <sorush20> how do I mount it
[03:42] <MrBlah> Can somebody help me get the nvidia drivers loading?
[03:42] <gardar> Anyone here from russia?
[03:42] <beni_> MrBlah: Google
[03:42] <MKR> sorush20, I dont't know anything about mounting MP3 players.
[03:43] <rkvirani> But a full-screen iTerm window is like 127.0.0.1
[03:43] <MKR> You asked how to find its address :P
[03:43] <leitao> how could I get the login package source code?
[03:43] <MrBlah> When X starts I'm getting: Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but
[03:43] <MrBlah> this X module has the version 1.0-9746
[03:43] <leitao> apt-get source login doesn't work.
[03:43] <MKR> I'm sure there's a program that'll pick it up and make use of it. Try amarok
[03:44] <tupacamaru> esiste un configuratore grafico di xorg per gnome
[03:46] <icecruncher> I can't install some software, can anyone help?
[03:46] <icecruncher> It gives me an error saying that the processor is not supported
[03:46] <XP> what processor do u have?
[03:47] <beanz> How are security updates to universe handled?
[03:47] <icecruncher> i386
[03:48] <boingolov> why does ubuntu automagically connect to wireless networks?  where is this configured?
[03:48] <oopsy> System -> Administration -> Network Manager
[03:48] <oopsy> or similar
[03:48] <nugenoa> Can someone tell me what is going on here? ( X isn't loading up, just giving me a blank screen - ATI Radeon Mobility X600 )
[03:48] <nugenoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10346/
[03:50] <Advant-> Is the 7.10 rls available as installable ISO somewhere?
[03:50] <OuZo> is there a 64bit channel? x86_64?
[03:50] <boingolov> zeroconf ?
[03:51] <rm_you> Advant-: i think it's still in flight5 or so... hit up #ubuntu+1
[03:51] <Advant-> rm_you: t hanks, new there was another channel :)
[03:51] <OuZo> i want google earth for ubuntu6.10 64bit, is it the same as the 32bit?
[03:51] <rm_you> OuZo: yeah
[03:51] <Advant-> "Feisty is NOT stable, and not even close to usable "   ;)
[03:51] <OuZo> rm_you: thanks
[03:52] <rm_you> OuZo: and if you dont want to have to install it yourself, automatix will do it
[03:52] <Advant-> rm_you:  What does flight5 mean?  flight1 is rls ?
[03:52] <ikonia_> never use atomatix
[03:52] <rm_you> err
[03:52] <rm_you> sorry
[03:52] <rm_you> Herd5
[03:52] <rm_you> lol
[03:52] <rm_you> flight was from the dapper drake betas :P
[03:52] <OuZo> rm_you: thanks, i like installing/building myself... :)
[03:53] <Advant-> rm_you:  So I guess what does 5 indicate ?
[03:53] <rm_you> 5th release? :P
[03:53] <Advant-> oh ok
[03:53] <Advant-> Do you know typically how many there are?
[03:53] <rm_you> OuZo: me too generally, but for 32bit cross-compat stuff or really complicated shiz, i use tools :P
[03:53] <rm_you> I think dapper went to 6?
[03:54] <Advant-> thanks
[03:54] <rm_you> The release numbers are year.month based, right?
[03:54] <rm_you> so if it's going to be released next month it would be 7.06?
[03:54] <JohnPhys> 7.04
[03:54] <rm_you> i think? >_>
[03:54] <rm_you> wouldnt that have been last month?
[03:55] <I3ooI3oo_werking> no
[03:55] <rm_you> >_>
[03:55] <Advant-> 7 == July
[03:55] <rm_you> err
[03:55] <rm_you> wouldnt the 7 be the year part? :P
[03:55] <Advant-> oh
[03:55] <wdickers> j #schooltool
[03:55] <Advant-> 7.10 = 2007 Oct ?
[03:55] <rm_you> i thought so
[03:55] <Advant-> guess it has a while
[03:56] <rm_you> oh and yes
[03:56] <rm_you> i miscounted by lots :P
[03:56] <rm_you> next month IS 04 :P
[03:56] <rm_you> rofl
[03:56] <Advant-> hehe
[03:56] <rm_you> I lose at figuring out what date it is ;P
[03:57] <I3ooI3oo_werking> why all moden PC have a calander
[03:58] <SGorillaaaa> hi
[03:59] <SGorillaaaa> how can i install opera on feisty herd5? do i just use the edgy eft?
[03:59] <xanfan> http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/New_Ad_Plans_to_Scare_You_Into_Voting_for_McCain
[04:00] <MrBlah> Does anyone know how to fix an NVIDIA kernel module API mismatch?
[04:00] <SGorillaaaa> can anyone help me?
[04:00] <rm_you> SGorillaaaa: head over to #ubuntu+1
[04:00] <rm_you> they do feisty stuff
[04:00] <SGorillaaaa> ok ty
[04:01] <rm_you> MrBlah: did you install the beta driver from nvidia?
[04:01] <MrBlah> rm_you: no, I got it from synaptic
[04:01] <rm_you> hrm
[04:02] <rm_you> no idea >_>
[04:02] <rwxr-xr--> i m trying to install app .deb  " sudo dpkg -i app.deb " is something problem here?
[04:02] <MrBlah> rm_you: Have previously installed a driver I got from nvidia directly (not sure if beta)
[04:02] <rm_you> installing the one from nvidia manually would fix it, but not the best way to go :P
[04:02] <rm_you> well, maybe the best way to go, since the newest driver from them is generally the most awesome :P
[04:02] <MrBlah> rm_you: I am running the one from nvidia now, but it stops working on reboot
[04:02] <rm_you> yeah
[04:02] <rm_you> same here
[04:03] <rm_you> i just reinstall it every time, lol
[04:03] <rm_you> i know theres a way to fix it for good, i just don't remember how ;P
[04:03] <devilsreject> what up all
[04:03] <devilsreject> simple question
[04:03] <rm_you> also, i reboot once every... err... month or two? :P so it really isn't an issue, since by then theres a new one out anyway and i install that one ;P
[04:03] <stonarmusic> rythmbox doesnt play my songs. do i need to install something?
[04:03] <I-kido> dudes, did u install the packages u need, to instll nvidia 1.0.9xxx?
[04:03] <devilsreject> how do i turn up the master volume
[04:03] <I-kido> and did u install it in init 3?
[04:03] <devilsreject> in ubuntu
[04:04] <rm_you> I-kido: no idea? :P
[04:04] <devilsreject> the volume on my player is all the way up the volume on the speaker by the time is all the way up
[04:04] <rwxr-xr--> i am using Trix. for my LAN chat.. but After install Its Show nothing in app.. no users nothing? whats the problem
[04:04] <devilsreject> the volume on my actual headphones is all the way up
[04:04] <ikonia_> where did you install trix from  ?
[04:04] <rm_you> devilsreject: take a look at alsamixer?
[04:04] <devilsreject> and it's like at a normal volume
[04:04] <rm_you> and look at "PCM" and "Master"
[04:05] <devilsreject> is it already installed
[04:05] <I-kido> rm you, u need a few packages for Nvidia 1.0.9xx like kernel package, module assistant, and some more
[04:05] <devilsreject> ?
[04:05] <rm_you> stonarmusic: i think it might need the mp3 stuff on your system? not in ubuntu by default
[04:05] <rm_you> I-kido: oh, yeah that
[04:05] <rm_you> I-kido: i install it using their binary installer
[04:05] <publico> hola
[04:05] <rm_you> i used to use m-a but it doesnt always get the absolute latest
[04:06] <F00BaR> hey
[04:06] <I-kido> rm_you, yes but it u need to install some packages to make 1.0.9755 eg to work
[04:06] <I-kido> and u got to install it in init 3 as root
[04:06] <rm_you> well, it does work.... excellently :P
[04:06] <rm_you> the only problem is the rebootness
[04:06] <stonarmusic> rm_you - do you know whick ones i need? gstreamer for sure
[04:06] <rm_you> stonarmusic: no idea, i always used automatix and just select "non-free codecs"
[04:07] <ikonia_> ughhh never use automatrix
[04:07] <rm_you> I-kido: i bet the ubuntu-wiki would tell me
[04:07] <ikonia_> !restricedformats
[04:07] <rm_you> ikonia: seriously, what's your problem with it? :P
[04:07] <ikonia_> rm_you it causes more problems
[04:07] <rm_you> it's useful for doing batch installs of annoying packages
[04:07] <ikonia_> !automatrix
[04:07] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:08] <ikonia_> rm_you nothing annoying about using apt
[04:08] <rm_you> ikonia: for the most part all it does is use apt-get >_>
[04:08] <OuZo> how can i install 32bit firefox on 64bit Ubuntu? i need flash, i tried a script i found on the forums but that didnt work
[04:08] <ikonia_> it just causes too many support issues, to be able to use it you have to be able to know what your doing, which sort of defeats the object of having it
[04:08] <rm_you> lol
[04:08] <ikonia_> OuZo why are you running x86_64
[04:08] <xat> hello everybody
[04:08] <rm_you> well, it !WorksForMe
[04:09] <ikonia_> rm_you you are in the %2 it doe
[04:09] <ikonia_> does
[04:09] <rm_you> I run x86_64 :P
[04:09] <I-kido> hi xat
[04:09] <rm_you> it works for me on every system i use it on... which is a lot :P
[04:09] <rm_you> well, which is about 20
[04:09] <rm_you> not a *LOT* lot, but quite a few
[04:09] <OuZo> ikonia: its faster to trance code dvd's ect
[04:09] <xat> can anyone tell me if there is or why there isnt a linux-restricted-modules package (dapper) for the server kernel?
[04:10] <rm_you> !WorksForMe
[04:10] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:10] <rm_you> lol, this I know, ubotu :P
[04:11] <Seveas> lots of bots...
[04:12] <Seveas> pm spam
[04:12] <rm_you> heh
[04:12] <Seveas> attack over, everybody can talk again :)
[04:12] <ikonia_> thank you
[04:12] <rm_you> thought +m was mute, but i appeared to be able to talk anyway for some reason :P
[04:12] <apokryphos> rm_you: /msg ubotu umode
[04:13] <Seveas> rm_you, you appeared to but only I saw it
[04:13] <rm_you> ah :P
[04:13] <Seveas> (mode +z means ops can still see people talk)
[04:14] <sen3> does ubuntu sends promotion materials ?
[04:14] <rm_you> nice.... that solves my problem in another place with having a muted channel and a bot that gives voice based on people talking :P
[04:14] <Seveas> sen3, there is diy marketing material on the wiki
[04:15] <sen3> ok tnx Seveas
[04:16] <Seveas> chmod o+rwx rwxr-xr--
[04:16] <rwxr-xr-->  :)
[04:16] <Seveas> apokryphos, nalioth: more incoming
[04:17] <Seveas> the turkbots are back
[04:17] <rwxr-xr--> yA Seveas.. too much *Spamming* bots here.
[04:18] <Yggdrasil> can somone tell me how i can get the places thing back on my top bar ?
[04:19] <Seveas> Yggdrasil, rightclick on the bar, select 'add to panel'
[04:19] <Yggdrasil> i dont see places
[04:19] <Seveas> and add the menu bar
[04:20] <Yggdrasil> what main topic is it under
[04:20] <rwxr-xr--> umm i m using trix for lan chat.. but in trix there is no users.. to show or chat for lan
[04:20] <Seveas> Yggdrasil, utilities
[04:20] <Yggdrasil> have like utilities ,accessories, system  ..
[04:20] <Yggdrasil> what is it called ?
[04:20] <Seveas> menu bar
[04:21] <Seveas> after main menu, before notification area
[04:21] <Yggdrasil> hmm..
[04:21] <Yggdrasil> that has all my applications in there
[04:21] <Yggdrasil> there was one before that was strictly places
[04:21] <I-kido> hey what do u mean by "turkbots"?
[04:21] <Seveas> no there wasn't
[04:21] <rwxr-xr--> is any software like trix or vyqchat? for local lan chat users
[04:21] <Yggdrasil> oh doh
[04:22] <Yggdrasil> seveas i got it thanks
[04:22] <Seveas> I-kido, this clan of bots comes from turkey
[04:22] <I-kido> lol
[04:22] <I-kido> ok
[04:22] <Yggdrasil> i had menu bar and other one confused
[04:22] <Yggdrasil> thank u
[04:23] <Viper_iii> hello all... good morin' from socal
[04:24] <pradeep> hi
[04:24] <karl-erik> Hi. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10257/ Any help would be enormously apprecited.
[04:24] <Viper_iii> wanted to know the best way to get tomcat installed on ubuntu 6.06.1 alt....  using lamp version of install and want to install http://xinco.com
[04:25] <tarzeau> can i use ubuntu without mouse?
[04:25] <Mordicus> hello
[04:26] <dost> hi
[04:26] <Seveas> tarzeau, in text mode :)
[04:26] <Mordicus> I've installed xubuntu using ubuntu minimal CD, and the installation is completed, but when the PC reboot, I just have the command line, no graphic interface
[04:26] <Mordicus> what can i do ?
[04:27] <Seveas> Mordicus, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <tarzeau> ah ok
[04:27] <Seveas> Mordicus, err, xubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <rwxr-xr--> Seveas: is any software like trix or vyqchat? for local lan chat users
[04:27] <Mordicus> sec
[04:27] <tarzeau> should floppy be automatically mounted? only in gnome or also in textmode?
[04:27] <JohnPhys> Mordicus :  or, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for xubuntu
[04:27] <Mordicus> Seveas: ok ! i am trying, thank you
[04:27] <Seveas> rwxr-xr--, gajim can do some link-local chat, or you can set up a local jabber thing
[04:28] <mikeconcepts> Could someone tell me how Feisty Fawn's desktop effects compare to  beryl on Ubuntu 6.10?
[04:28] <apokryphos> mikeconcepts: /msg ubotu feisty
[04:28] <Viper_iii> has anyone played with xinco.com basically a doc management system with tomcat , jre1.5 and mysql... trying to setup a test but not sure about getting tomcat and jre installed.
[04:29] <Seveas> Viper_iii, which ubuntu version?
[04:29] <Viper_iii> 6.06
[04:29] <Seveas> !find tomcat dappetr
[04:29] <Seveas> !find tomcat dapper
[04:29] <ubotu> Found: libtomcat5-java, libtomcat5.5-java, tomcat5, tomcat5-admin, tomcat5-webapps (and 3 others)
[04:29] <_wraith_> anyone familiar with formatting harddisks?
[04:29] <ubotu> Found: libtomcat5-java, tomcat5, tomcat5-admin, tomcat5-webapps
[04:29] <Lynoure> _wraith_: Just ask your question, please.
[04:29] <JohnPhys> _wraith_ :  Yeah, I guess?
[04:30] <seanh_> Hey - is it true that this open srouce 'radeon' driver provides full 3D acceleration, similar to the proprietary 'fglrx' driver?
[04:30] <Seveas> Viper_iii, apparently you can simply install tomcat5 and related packages via apt
[04:30] <Viper_iii> sweet...
[04:30] <rwxr-xr--> how can i setup local jabber ? i m newbie any web related info ?
[04:30] <PirateHead> _wraith_: many of us have done various hard drive formatting things. What do you need help with in particular?
[04:30] <Mordicus> JohnPhys: thank you, it's installing now ! :)
[04:30] <Viper_iii> will run that now... wish I would have known that.. duh.. thx see how Far I get!
[04:31] <JohnPhys> Mordicus:  Not a problem, glad to help.
[04:31] <_wraith_> Lynoure,  JohnPhys , PirateHead : i have an old hd and it has data on it, i would like to add it to my case and reformat it to so i have extra space. how do i go about it?
[04:31] <NevroPus> anyone else have problems with tabbing in edgy with beryl??
[04:31] <rm_you> seanh_: it enables direct rendering, yes.... although there are some things it can't do, i believe
[04:31] <_wraith_> my current hd is full almost
[04:31] <_wraith_> so i need to add it
[04:31] <JohnPhys> _wraith_ : do you need the data on the old drive?
[04:31] <seanh_> rm_you -- I do game development with a 3D game engine, Would it handle that? It's not cutting edge graphics, but it is 3D game rendering
[04:31] <JohnPhys> _wraith_ : and do you need to share the drive between ubuntu and windows?
[04:31] <_wraith_> JohnPhys, no
[04:31] <tupacamaru>  tomcat5
[04:31] <Viper_iii> !find jre1.5
[04:31] <_wraith_> no
[04:32] <_wraith_> all linux partitions
[04:32] <ubotu> Package/file jre1.5 does not exist in edgy
[04:32] <rm_you> seanh_: what engine? Torque? Ogre? Also, yes probably :P
[04:32] <PirateHead> _wraith_: I am assuming that the data on the old hdd is junk and you don't need to keep it. Mount the drive in your case and attach it to the motherboard. The operating system should recognize it, and you can use GKParted to format it.
[04:32] <rm_you> seanh_: now i'm just curious :P
[04:32] <Viper_iii> !find java dapper
[04:32] <ubotu> Found: gcj, gcj-4.1, gij, gij-4.1, java-common (and 193 others)
[04:32] <JohnPhys> _wraith_  :  See what PirateHead wrote.
[04:32] <_wraith_> PirateHead, ok, that will not mess up my ubuntu install at all?
[04:32] <_wraith_> i just didn't wanna fry something as it is a windows filesystem
[04:32] <gnu-freak> kishore: hi, this is official channel of #ubuntu
[04:32] <JohnPhys> _wraith_: just make sure to format the correct drive
[04:32] <seanh_> rm_you - Panda3D. I'm considering getting a thinkpad T41 which has a 32mb radeon 7500, not supported by the proprietary fglrx driver, but apparently by this open source driver
[04:32] <Seveas> Viper_iii, the jre should be dragged in by tomcat. if not: apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:32] <PirateHead> _wraith_: Obviously, if you format anything other than the new hard drive, it will wipe Ubuntu. Format exclusively the new device.
[04:33] <rm_you> seanh_: yeah it should work
[04:33] <_wraith_> gotcha, ext2 or ext3?
[04:33] <seanh_> rm_you: thanks
[04:33] <JohnPhys> _wraith_ : ext3
[04:33] <PirateHead> _wraith_: It depends on how you will use the new drive. If it will only be for media, like videos and music, then ext2 or fat32 is probably best. If it will be used for general Linux consumption, then ext3 is a better choice by far.
[04:34] <rwxr-xr--> how can i setup local jabber for local lan chat? i m newbie any web related info ?
[04:34] <_wraith_> okay, cool thanks for your help guys
[04:34] <PirateHead> _wraith_: no problem, good luck.
[04:34] <beanie> hey guys, i upgraded to feisty and wanted to setup my geforce 2 go. but i noticed that the package nvidia-glx-legacy isnt available. does anybody know what happened?
[04:34] <beanie> sorry for grap english :/
[04:34] <ctrl_x> any one tell me how to install soulseek
[04:34] <PirateHead> _wraith_: word of caution, make sure that under no cirucmstances power is cut to your machine during the partition process. :-D
[04:34] <_wraith_> one more thing, master slave setup uncertain where which goes on the cable?
[04:34] <jvidyad> hello
[04:34] <_wraith_> aha, good advice!
[04:35] <rm_you> beanie: the feisty people are all in #ubuntu+1 :P you should go ask there
[04:35] <JohnPhys> PirateHead:  why would that matter if he's partitioning a non-critical drive?
[04:35] <beanie> rm_you: thx :)
[04:35] <rm_you> :P
[04:35] <jvidyad> I need help setting up a linux router with two internet connections and a third interface for the LAN. can someone suggest a way to do this, please???
[04:35] <PirateHead> JohnPhys: it's always, always a bad idea to run any partitioner during a thunderstorm, for instance.
[04:36] <PirateHead> JohnPhys: when you're operating on a critical drive, it's just extra nuts.
[04:36] <ctrl_x> Can any one suggest me hoe to download Soulseek in ubuntu 6.06
[04:36] <JohnPhys> PirateHead:  Alrighty.  I'm just curious as to how a command to format one physical drive could affect another if power were cut.
[04:36] <jolger> hi... is anyone able to assist me in installing the dvb driver for my "medion tv-tuner 7134"? (chipset saa7134)
[04:37] <_wraith_> JohnPhys, PirateHead did you see my question about cable placement in regards to slave/master?
[04:37] <ctrl_x> Can any one suggest me how to download Soulseek in ubuntu 6.06
[04:37] <JohnPhys> _wraith_ : depends on whether or not you're adding it to an ide controller that already has another drive on it
[04:37] <anthonymcuozzo> what is soulseek?
[04:38] <rm_you> jvidyad: yeah, you'll need something like firestarter if you aren't intimately familiar with iptables... although i would say you might have better luck with a distro suited more closely to your needs like smoothwall or another routing specific distro :P
[04:38] <melvin> hello
[04:38] <_wraith_> JohnPhys, it is a single cable which has two plugs on it
[04:38] <PirateHead> ctrl_x: dont' ask questions multple times in succession. Have you tried googling "soulseek ubuntu"? It looks promising.
[04:38] <rm_you> soulseek is a p2p music sharing program:P
[04:38] <anthonymcuozzo> i see
[04:38] <PirateHead> Hello, Melvin.
[04:38] <_wraith_> but my current cable only has one plug
[04:38] <Viper_iii> !find java 1.5
[04:38] <Seveas> rm_you, we don't support such illegal activities in here
[04:38] <ubotu> Found: gcj, gcj-4.1, gij, gij-4.1, java-common (and 248 others)
[04:38] <rm_you> right
[04:38] <jvidyad> does smoothwall support redundant internet connections???
[04:38] <rm_you> i'm just saying what it is :P
[04:38] <rm_you> someone asked
[04:38] <rm_you> lol
[04:38] <anthonymcuozzo> lol Seaves
[04:38] <ctrl_x> PiratedHead, sorry
[04:39] <PirateHead> p2p music filesharing is not illegal.
[04:39] <rm_you> yeah
[04:39] <Viper_iii> what apt-get do I need for java 1.5 sdk  and jre?
[04:39] <anthonymcuozzo> it's not
[04:39] <JohnPhys>  _wraith_ : I'm not quite sure what you mean.  Can you tell me how your existing drives are currently set up?  (which one is hda/hdb/sda/ etc?
[04:39] <rm_you> as long as it's free music :P
[04:39] <rm_you> GPL Music FTW? :P
[04:39] <Seveas> Viper_iii, sun-java5-jdk
[04:39] <anthonymcuozzo> it only is if what you are transferring = illegal
[04:39] <_wraith_> hmm
[04:39] <anthonymcuozzo> right Seveas?
[04:39] <_wraith_> i only have one hd now
[04:39] <_wraith_> it is hda
[04:39] <Ulfalizer> _wraith_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_select#Multiple_devices_on_a_cable
[04:39] <JohnPhys> _wraith_ :  dvd/cd drive?
[04:39] <anthonymcuozzo> Hey Seveas, do you remember when we saw that play together at the theatre?
[04:40] <Seveas> anthonymcuozzo, the law on that subject is usually unclear, difficult and ambiguous and differs per country.
[04:40] <_wraith_> oh yes two drives cd and a dvd drive
[04:40] <_wraith_> and a floppy
[04:40] <Viper_iii> seveas: that didn't go?
[04:40] <rm_you> yeah, i used SoulSeek for people's techno mixes, which to my knowledge aren't illegal... cause generally they are available for download on their official site :P
[04:40] <moeru> I'm tryin to install Conky and get Dependacy not satisfied
[04:40] <Seveas> anthonymcuozzo, however: uploading copyrighted material with a restrictive license is usually illegal
[04:40] <anthonymcuozzo> So you are saying that material that has no copyright cannot be freely distributed?
[04:40] <Seveas> anthonymcuozzo, everythong has copyright
[04:40] <Viper_iii> !find java5 dapper
[04:40] <PirateHead> Seveas: is there any reason not to help people install Soulseek in #ubuntu?
[04:40] <ubotu> Found: sun-java5-bin, sun-java5-demo, sun-java5-doc, sun-java5-fonts, sun-java5-jdk (and 3 others)
[04:40] <rm_you> GPL music?
[04:41] <rm_you> rather, Creative Commons music?
[04:41] <anthonymcuozzo> Including the music that I have composed myself?
[04:41] <rm_you> :P
[04:41] <Seveas> rm_you, GPL uses copyright to enforce freedom
[04:41] <JohnPhys> _wraith_ :  follow the link that Ulfalizer provided, but I'm guessing you'll want to make your newly added hard drive the slave on the controller that your current hard drive is on.
[04:41] <rm_you> Copyleft music? :P
[04:41] <Seveas> anthonymcuozzo, yes, you are automatically copyright holder of what you create
[04:41] <_wraith_> ok, i will try an figure it out
[04:41] <anthonymcuozzo> i see
[04:41] <rm_you> I guess that technically uses copyright too... >_>
[04:41] <_wraith_> thanks for all of your help everyone
[04:41] <anthonymcuozzo> Where is the line drawn?
[04:41] <PirateHead> _wraith_: gl
[04:41] <Seveas> rm_you, copyleft uses copyright to enforce freedom in much the same way as the GNU GPL
[04:41] <_wraith_> i will be back once all is well :p
[04:41] <_wraith_> thanks
[04:41] <Seveas> anthonymcuozzo, nowhere
[04:41] <anthonymcuozzo> What if I compose music that differs by only 1 single note from another's?
[04:42] <anthonymcuozzo> Is it still my own?
[04:42] <sdac1> hi,  on xubuntu i accidently went to the "login Window" settings screen and selected "Chooser".  Now on startup i get a different screen that asks me to enter names then click add.  This screen does not allow me to login.  Is there a way to re-select the old login manager program by changing some txt file while in recovery mode ?  thanks
[04:42] <rm_you> anthonymcuozzo: actually, no
[04:42] <Seveas> anthonymcuozzo, that is plagiarism
[04:42] <anthonymcuozzo> So then the line is drawn there.
[04:42] <Seveas> you violate the copyright of that other person
[04:42] <Philip> ANY OF YOU GUYS COULD HELP ME OUT ON HOW TO USE UBUNTU?
[04:42] <JohnPhys> anthonymcuozzo : ask vanilla ice :P
[04:42] <Viper_iii> seveas... am I missing a repository? sun-java5-jdk  again using 6.06
[04:42] <PirateHead> anthonymcuozzo: the law is grey there. For an extreme example, look up the Scrambled Haxzs project.
[04:42] <Seveas> !caps | Philip
[04:42] <ubotu> Philip: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:42] <rm_you> anthonymcuozzo: there's seperate rules about that, lol.... my music major roommate was telling me about that, but i forgot :(
[04:42] <anthonymcuozzo> Is that quantifiable?
[04:42] <jolger> has anyone got any clue as to why i get "install: cannot stat `ivtv.ko': No such file or directory" and a few other errors when trying to install the v4l-dvb thingy?
[04:42] <PirateHead> !anybody | Philip
[04:42] <ubotu> Philip: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:43] <anthonymcuozzo> If it isn't quantifiable, no one can be justly held accountable.
[04:43] <anthonymcuozzo> (in my opinion)
[04:43] <OuZo> how do i remove the free java that Ubuntu comes with?
[04:43] <Seveas> anthonymcuozzo, and that's how lawyers get insanely rich :)
[04:43] <anthonymcuozzo> exactly!
[04:43] <aldin> upgrade serius problem http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10355/
[04:43] <rm_you> anthonymcuozzo: actually, it *IS* quantifiable
[04:43] <aldin> anyone recently done dist-upgrade on feisty-fawn
[04:43] <ctrl_x> If anyone free, from where i can learn commands and how to install application in ubuntu 6.06
[04:43] <anthonymcuozzo> Well, in relation to music yes; however, I was extending it all creative endeavors.
[04:43] <aldin> i get this http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10355/
[04:44] <rm_you> there's a specific variance stated in law somewhere, i just don't remember what it exactly cause while my roommate was telling me about it, i was trying to write a script ;P
[04:44] <Seveas> aldin, try: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[04:44] <NevroPus> anyone else have problems with tabbing in beryl?
[04:44] <rm_you> NevroPus: nope, works fine here ;P
[04:44] <mzuverink> I have heard all the arguments about how automatix is evil, but what about easyubuntu?
[04:44] <anthonymcuozzo> Sorry if I made that unclear.
[04:44] <NevroPus> my system crashes if I try tabbing:S
[04:44] <PirateHead> NevroPus: better to look in mailing list and Ubuntu forums/bug tracker.
[04:44] <Seveas> mzuverink, less evil
[04:44] <aldin> Seveas: aldin@domacin:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[04:44] <aldin>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                                                                                                              cupsd: Child exited with status 2!
[04:44] <aldin> aldin@domacin:~$
[04:44] <rm_you> NevroPus: also try asking in #beryl :P
[04:44] <PirateHead> NevroPus: definitely look at bug tracker then, and file a bug if there isn't one already.
[04:44] <mzuverink> Seveas, do you have a feisty repo yet?
[04:45] <Seveas> mzuverink, no
[04:45] <JohnPhys> OuZo : why remove it?  If you've installed sun java, I think you can just run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and point it to the sun java
[04:45] <Seveas> aldin, that's not too good...
[04:45] <Viper_iii> seveas ... found it... apt-get sun-java6-jdk  it was all updated to v6
[04:45] <Seveas> aldin, which version of Ubuntu?
[04:45] <aldin> Seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10356/
[04:45] <mzuverink> Seveas, ok, thanks.  On the easyubuntu deal, does that cause problems when upgrading?
[04:45] <PirateHead> mzuverink: EasuUbuntu is much like Automatix. Is there some install task that you need help with?
[04:45] <Seveas> aldin, so it worked now?
[04:45] <genii> aldin #ubuntu+1 is for Feisty
[04:45] <Seveas> aldin, then try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:46] <anthonymcuozzo> I find that Ubuntu recognizes the better majority of my laptop hardware automatically, will Debian as well (I know Ubuntu is based on Debian, but has it grown to be too different?)?
[04:46] <rm_you> lol
[04:46] <PirateHead> Nobody is in #ubuntu+3 -- Hungry Horse is sad. :-(((
[04:47] <genii> LOL
[04:47] <anthonymcuozzo> I mean Debian Unstable bw
[04:47] <anthonymcuozzo> btw*
[04:47] <mzuverink> PirateHead, no, i was just talking to someone who is going to install and he asked me about easyubuntu
[04:47] <rm_you> Well, i know the one scenario that automatix works 100% of the time is with a fresh, default ubuntu install, right off the CD :P it works perfect every time
[04:47] <Viper_iii> !find postgre
[04:47] <ubotu> Found: postgresql-client-common, postgresql-common, aolserver4-nspostgres, cl-sql-postgresql, cl-sql-postgresql-socket (and 51 others)
[04:47] <bullgard> anthonymcuozzo: It will not. My experience with a new laptop is that Ubuntu recognizes all SATA but the Debian Etch installer not.
[04:48] <anthonymcuozzo> Hmmm, soo odd Bullgard...
[04:48] <OuZo> JohnPhys: thanks, java is working well now
[04:48] <Viper_iii> !find samba
[04:48] <ubotu> Found: dpsyco-samba, egroupware-sambaadmin, gsambad, xffm4-samba, python2.4-samba (and 6 others)
[04:48] <JohnPhys>  anthonymcuozzo  :  I'm not sure (great answer, I know), but I think the ubuntu devs compile more drivers in to the kernel than you would get in the standard "vanilla" kernel from kernel.org, so it would depend on what kernel you use.  That may be 100% inaccurate though.
[04:48] <Seveas> JohnPhys, it's pretty accurate :)
[04:48] <Xif> Anyone wants to help me troubleshoot my mic problems?
[04:48] <nuked_omen> !restricted
[04:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:48] <Seveas> also: ubuntu uses very recent kernels
[04:48] <JohnPhys> OuZo:  Glad to help!
[04:49] <Helmi> i just built a geforece 6200 into my pc - i've got two flat screens and it looks like the crt-plug from the nvidia is the primary monitor. is there a solution to switch to the dvi for the primary?
[04:49] <anthonymcuozzo> I see, thank you.
[04:49] <JohnPhys> Seveas:  Just putting a disclaimer there, since I had heard that from a friend and hadn't investigated it myself :)
[04:49] <aldin> Seveas: nope http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10357/
[04:49] <Philip> JohnPhys, how do i install deivers for my motherboard on ubuntu OS?
[04:49] <anthonymcuozzo> Does anyone have any updates on the status of a driver from ENE for the ENE CB-712/4?
[04:49] <rm_you> lol yeah, I really like the ubuntu kernel philosophy... "If someone somewhere might at some point possible use this feature, even temporarily, we had better include it!" :P
[04:50] <JohnPhys> Philip:  Unfortunately, I don't think I have any idea.  Can you be more specific?  Why do you think you need new drivers? etc.
[04:50] <aldin> Seveas: cupsd: Child exited with status 2!
[04:50] <cdavis> I am trying to install vmware-player but it doesn't show up in synaptic package manager, what have I forgotten to do?  I enabled multiverse
[04:50] <rm_you> i find the amount of time i lose to kernel inefficiency with all of that done is FAR LESS than the amount of time i lose when i'm using gentoo and my kernel is missing support for 90% of my system by default and i spend hours getting everything all working >_<
[04:50] <manitoba98xp> I need to access a Linux server from another machine, through a firewall. This connection _needs_ to be secure and encrypted, ideally via SSH. I've been using X11 forwarding, but this only works well for individual windows; a full desktop environment is too slow. I like how I can load individual windows into my client environment (which are Windows machines, by the way), but I need more speed for higher load.
[04:51] <Philip> I have a TV tuner hardware
[04:51] <rwxr-xr--> looking for  local chat client .. is nay like vyqchat or trix ?
[04:51] <Seveas> manitoba98xp, you're looking for n
[04:51] <JohnPhys> cdavis: did you run "sudo apt-get update" to refresh the package list?
[04:51] <Seveas> nx
[04:51] <cdavis> JohnPhys, yes I did
[04:51] <rwxr-xr--> Seveas, : is any help for japper local chat client?
[04:51] <rwxr-xr--> *jabber
[04:51] <anthonymcuozzo> Besides ndiswrapper (for wireless) is there any other software that permits one to install windows driver on linux?
[04:51] <Yggdrasil> whats the cmd to restart a networkinterface ?
[04:52] <JohnPhys> cdavis:  not sure then, but you could always download vmware server from vmware.com
[04:52] <anthonymcuozzo> cd /etc/init.d
[04:52] <ikonia_> whats the problem with jabber
[04:52] <Philip> JohnPhys, I want to use it on ubuntu
[04:52] <smurphy> YggDrasil: ifup/ifdown ?
[04:52] <anthonymcuozzo> sudo ./networking restart
[04:52] <Yggdrasil> to restart
[04:52] <aldin> is anyone on feitsy, if so can u do dist-upgrade to see if error happens
[04:52] <JohnPhys> Philip:  what tuner card/chipset?
[04:52] <Yggdrasil> thanks
[04:52] <manitoba98xp> Seveas: That's what I thought, but I'm having difficulty understanding how FreeNX works. Do I need to run a special service?
[04:52] <PirateHead> anthonymcuzzo: if you're trying to get a windows gfx card driver working, good luck. :-(
[04:52] <Lynoure> aldin: try on #ubuntu+1?
[04:52] <Yggdrasil> anthonymcuozzo
[04:52] <anthonymcuozzo> no, its an SD card reader
[04:52] <cdavis> the only thing it finds is vmware-player kernel modules
[04:52] <Yggdrasil> how do i do it to a specific interface
[04:52] <aldin> Lynoure: thx
[04:52] <anthonymcuozzo> yes Yggdrasil?
[04:52] <genii> manitoba98xp: freenx has a windows client
[04:53] <anthonymcuozzo> hmm, there is a cheap GUI way that I know
[04:53] <anthonymcuozzo> of
[04:53] <genii> manitoba98xp: It can also do vnc protocol and some other
[04:53] <anthonymcuozzo> PM me
[04:53] <ikonia_> anthonymcuozzo pm you with what ?
[04:53] <Philip> JohnPhys, Its a LifeView TV tunner, i dont know the type of the chipset.
[04:53] <Yggdrasil> thanks
[04:53] <JohnPhys> is it physically installed?  you can probably find the chipset by running lspci
[04:54] <anthonymcuozzo> ikonia, check messages
[04:54] <ikonia_> anthonymcuozzo I missed it sorry
[04:54] <cdavis> JohnPhys, do I have to enable the deb-src for multiverse as well as just deb?
[04:54] <manitoba98xp> Is FreeNX secure? Can I make it only exposed via SSH? Does the client natively support tunneling through SSH? Can I, if desired, have the same effect as X11 (that is, opening individual X windows without sending a whole desktop session)?
[04:54] <Philip> how do i run lspci?
[04:54] <anthonymcuozzo> ikonia_ = Yggdrasil?
[04:54] <ikonia_> Philip type "lspci"
[04:54] <ikonia_> anthonymcuozzo no
[04:54] <Seveas> manitoba98xp, no, it goes over ssh
[04:54] <Yggdrasil> no sorry
[04:54] <anthonymcuozzo> ah i see
[04:54] <ikonia_> I'm not Yggdrasil
[04:54] <genii> manitoba98xp: Yes, freenx works over ssh
[04:54] <anthonymcuozzo> Yggdrasil, answer PM
[04:55] <JohnPhys> cdavis :  ....odd.  I see it as showing up in the multiverse.........and I don't think you need to enable deb-src, since I don't think the source code is available, but it couldn't hurt to check.
[04:55] <Seveas> manitoba98xp, however freenx runs an X server on the server, so it's rather resource intensive
[04:55] <anthonymcuozzo> okay, we'll do it here Yggdrasil
[04:55] <Yggdrasil> wait trying
[04:55] <anthonymcuozzo> want to know the cheap GUI way?
[04:55] <cdavis> JohnPhys, I tried it and it still doesn't find it.  This is a brand new install today so maybe I have something broken already :)
[04:55] <Yggdrasil> no i dont havea gui
[04:55] <Philip> where do i type "lspci"?
[04:55] <zelrikriando> hello
[04:56] <anthonymcuozzo> ok you are strict terminal?
[04:56] <ikonia_> Philip in a terminal
[04:56] <Yggdrasil> yea
[04:56] <anthonymcuozzo> nice
[04:56] <anthonymcuozzo> i will think of a solution
[04:56] <JohnPhys> cdavis:  can I ask how you're searching for it?
[04:56] <JohnPhys> Philip : at any terminal
[04:56] <Philip> after that what do i do?
[04:56] <ikonia_> Philip type"lspci"
[04:56] <genii> manitoba98xp: Did you already try instead doing X forwarding over ssh then putty+Xming on thw clients? You can run individual X apps tghat way instead of the entire desktop
[04:57] <anthonymcuozzo> let me take a peek at the networking binary
[04:57] <cdavis> apt-cache search vmware   and I tried the search button on synaptic package manager.
[04:57] <zelrikriando> I have problems with my sound card on ubuntu
[04:57] <anthonymcuozzo> do you know any SH Yggdrasil?
[04:57] <cdavis> JohnPhys, apt-cache search vmware   and I tried the search button on synaptic package manager.
[04:57] <zelrikriando> can somebody help me?
[04:57] <JohnPhys> cdavis : well, you've officially exhausted my knowledge!
[04:57] <Yggdrasil> anthony theres gott to be an easy way
[04:57] <anthonymcuozzo> I know
[04:57] <anthonymcuozzo> :-/
[04:57] <cdavis> JohnPhys, heh, that was quick :)  thanks
[04:57] <anthonymcuozzo> I only know how to restart all
[04:57] <Yggdrasil> hangon a seci got my hands full
[04:58] <tupacamaru> woths soud card
[04:58] <stonarmusic> yes
[04:58] <Philip> how do i install games or drivers for my Modem from my CD??
[04:58] <anthonymcuozzo> Yggdrasil, I can write you something in perl to it
[04:58] <JohnPhys> cdavis :  I can make wild guesses at this point, but that's about it.  Maybe it needs stuff from universe or deb-src universe for dependencies and that's stopping it from showing up?
[04:58] <zelrikriando> my sound card is not working
[04:58] <ikonia_> Philip you don't
[04:58] <JohnPhys> cdavis : see?  wild guesses
[04:58] <manitoba98xp> genii: That's exactly what I have been doing. In fact, I am in the same building as the server. That works nicely for individual apps, but when I want a full desktop session, it slows to a crawl (our server is in a DMZ, so our firewall is filtering too slowly). I'd like a solution that can do _both_ well. Some sort of compression of X11 would be nice, but I'm willing to look at other solutions.
[04:58] <Philip> what do you mean i dont?
[04:59] <Yggdrasil> wait anthony
[04:59] <ikonia_> Philip what are you trying to do
[04:59] <Viper_iii> !find mysql dapper
[04:59] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libdbd-mysql-perl, nagios-mysql, python-mysqldb, python2.4-mysqldb (and 81 others)
[04:59] <anthonymcuozzo> ok i got it Yggdrasil
[04:59] <anthonymcuozzo> want to know how?
[04:59] <Yggdrasil> ?
[04:59] <JohnPhys> All:  I'll be back later
[04:59] <Yggdrasil> yes
[04:59] <cdavis> JohnPhys, I enabled everything.  Are you hitting us.archive.ubuntu.com when you see it in multiverse?
[04:59] <ctrl_x> which player should i install to play Mp3???
[04:59] <anthonymcuozzo> ifdown -a --exclude   (all of the other interfaces)
[04:59] <sdac1> can someone tell me which text file contains the settings of what login manager to display when machine starts.  I selected "Chooser" accidently and thus cannot login anymore...how do i re-enable gdm by editing text file ???
[04:59] <Seveas> !mp3 > ctrl_x
[04:59] <Yggdrasil> hmm ok
[04:59] <anthonymcuozzo> if up -a --exclude (all of the other interfaces)
[04:59] <zelrikriando> hello ?
[05:00] <genii> manitoba98xp: Well, if you require full desktop at tolerable speed over lan, then freenx is the way. No package currently for it but there are a few good tutorials.
[05:00] <anthonymcuozzo> ifup*
[05:00] <ctrl_x> Seveas, i wanna play Mp3 file
[05:00] <aKKiLLa> Hey I just did a new ubuntu install on my Dell Laptop.  I had great internet connection (fast speeds and no problems connecting) before the format and install.  Now I get slow speeds and trouble connecting to my network.  I know my hardware (wireless inside my laptop and router) can be good but it isd the sucks for now.  Does anyone have advice on troubleshooting an unstable and slow wireless connection?  I am using wifi-radar
[05:00] <anthonymcuozzo> i just took a peek at the networking binary to see how it does it
[05:00] <baikonur> hi
[05:00] <anthonymcuozzo> it excludes lo by default
[05:00] <zelrikriando> I have some info about my current config to help debugging
[05:00] <rwxr-xr--> ctrl_x,: use xmms player for mp3
[05:00] <JohnPhys> cdavis : it certainly looks like I am
[05:00] <amias> akkila : have you disabled ipv6 and tweaked your firefox settings
[05:00] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Day 3 : Same Question:  I have tried to install the Nvidia drivers for my Older card.  The last version of the driver that supports my card is the 1.9632 version, After solving the lack of packages problem i have gotten the install to run fully and compile a new kernel. Yet when I restart X server tried to use the new 1.9632 yet the kernel still was using the 1.74xx version.  Where do i need to look to find which module is being loaded?
[05:00] <manitoba98xp> genii: I see...
[05:00] <cdavis> JohnPhys, k, thought maybe I was using a mirror that was broken
[05:00] <anthonymcuozzo> MSG NickServ Hello!
[05:01] <anthonymcuozzo> fuck
[05:01] <aKKiLLa> nah
[05:01] <manitoba98xp> Alright, thanks for your help.
[05:01] <anthonymcuozzo> excuse me!
[05:01] <anthonymcuozzo> sorry
[05:01] <Philip> im a 1st time user of ubuntu, so what i need is a step by step process on how to set-up a dial-up using ubuntu so i could be connected to the internet
[05:01] <ikonia_> visI3ooI3oo_werking have you tried the nvidia legacy package in ubuntu ?
[05:01] <JohnPhys> cdavis:  stuck at 99% at the moment though, so you could be right.
[05:01] <aKKiLLa> btw I disconnected so I missed any answers you may have posted
[05:01] <zelrikriando> can somebody help me?
[05:01] <anthonymcuozzo> Seveas.....do you know anything about sl-modem-source?
[05:01] <aKKiLLa> amias: is there a website I can look at for tweaking?
[05:01] <JohnPhys> cdavis: waiting for headers from Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources
[05:01] <Yggdrasil> anthonymcuozzo
[05:01] <anthonymcuozzo> yes Yggdrasil?
[05:02] <Philip> not yet
[05:02] <anthonymcuozzo> What do I type to register my nick?
[05:02] <anthonymcuozzo> something involving NickServ, I believe
[05:02] <amias> aKKiLLa,: there is a the ubuntu wiki which almost certainly covers this , google for it
[05:02] <rwxr-xr--> anthonymcuozzo,  /msg Nickserv help
[05:02] <JohnPhys> All:  I'm out for a while
[05:02] <aKKiLLa> ohh, ok
[05:02] <zelrikriando> T-T
[05:02] <Shane-S> I need help I have  celron 400 w/64MB ram, and I downloaded xbuntu because of its low specs, it starts to load with the bouncing bar and logo, then goes to a black screen with a blinking "_" in the top left and sits there, doing nothing
[05:02] <Dr_willis> amazing the # of docs out for Linux and about every question thats ever been asked. :)
[05:02] <cdavis> JohnPhys, I am using edgy, could there be no vmware-player for edgy?
[05:02] <aKKiLLa> I have been doing that
[05:02] <name7ess> hi all
[05:02] <manitoba98xp> Philip: Try installing GNOME PPP (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Dialup_PPP_Client_.28GNOME_PPP.29) and then using that app to dial in.
[05:02] <genii> !register | anthonymcuozzo
[05:02] <ubotu> anthonymcuozzo: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:03] <name7ess> can anybody help me to get stormMan running on Dapper AMD64
[05:03] <Shane-S> I also tried graphics safe mode, same sympton
[05:03] <name7ess> i tried with alien, but i always get
[05:03] <anthonymcuozzo> there we go
[05:03] <anthonymcuozzo> thanks everyone!
[05:03] <name7ess> dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[05:03] <Dr_willis> Shane-S,  thats a VERY low memory system.. You may want to try out some of the very minimal linux disrtos like "DSL" or "PuppyLinux"
[05:03] <name7ess> just adding a symlink did not solve the problem
[05:03] <Philip> i'm using Windows XP right now, ill be using ubuntu OS later
[05:03] <ikonia_> name7ess thats not going to work
[05:03] <aKKiLLa> anyone have advice for torrent progrqam for ubuntu?  Not java based
[05:03] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : i m using trix for local lan chat.. but now trix open fine but not showing users there.. how can i fix trix? or any other software like trix or vyqchat for local lan chat?
[05:03] <mofomikes> does the apache2 server in the edgy repo include apxs?
[05:03] <zelrikriando> can somebody help me to fix my sound card?
[05:03] <name7ess> ikonia why not?
[05:03] <Yggdrasil> anthonymcuozzo did you get identifyed
[05:03] <Dr_willis> Shane-S,  but your poblem, sounds more like the systems not reading the cd right, or badly burnt cd
[05:03] <name7ess> and how can i get it working?
[05:03] <anthonymcuozzo> yes I did
[05:04] <ikonia_> name7ess because it wasn't built for ubuntu or ubuntu dependencies
[05:04] <amias> name7ess,  looks like redhat has a different naming structure
[05:04] <ikonia_> amias and different library versions
[05:04] <name7ess> yes it was built for redhat4
[05:04] <Seveas> mofomikes, apxs is in a separate package iirc
[05:04] <name7ess> http://www.icp-vortex.com/german/download/arc/9047ma_9117d.htm
[05:04] <Philip> and how do i install drivers for my LifeViewTV tunner?
[05:04] <name7ess> i got it from here
[05:04] <ikonia_> name7ess you're not usingredhat 4
[05:04] <Seveas> !find apxs
[05:04] <amias> name7ess,  use the source young jedi
[05:04] <ubotu> File apxs found in apache-dev, libapache-request-perl
[05:04] <name7ess> however there must be a way to get this running on dapper/ubuntu
[05:04] <name7ess> ikonia_ yes that's why i tried with alien
[05:04] <Shane-S> hmmm, I swapped CD-roms in it because I had that issue with 6.10 server, and same burner made the server CD which works but fails to install because of the low memory. I will see if I can find more memory
[05:04] <zelrikriando> please help O_O
[05:04] <ikonia_> name7ess yes find the ubuntu version or package yourself
[05:04] <Seveas> mofomikes, for apache2 you'll need apache2-dev
[05:05] <Shane-S> perhaps and extra CD-ROM too, thanks
[05:05] <genii> rwxr-xr--: nothing offhand comes to mind. Here we use jabber with a server but thats too much hassle for most ppl to set up
[05:05] <ikonia_> name7ess alien doesn't make it work on ubuntu - alien just changes the packaging format
[05:05] <name7ess> ikonia_: the problem is that there is no ubuntu package
[05:05] <ikonia_> name7ess so you'll need to build and package it your self or log a request to ubuntu maintainters to do it for you
[05:05] <rwxr-xr--> genni: i dont know how to setup jabber.. is any help for jabber to set server for local chat?
[05:05] <genii> rwxr-xr--: Lemme look, brb
[05:06] <Philip> how do i install drivers for my LifeViewTV tunner?
[05:06] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : trix working fine before.. but dont know wth now its not working.
[05:06] <Philip> how do i install drivers for my LifeViewTV tunner?
[05:06] <amias> Philip,  does lspci see it ?
[05:06] <rwxr-xr--> genii,  i tried to remove it and again install it but same problem .
[05:06] <name7ess> ikonia_: yes
[05:06] <rwxr-xr--> genii, Sure .. tyt
[05:06] <AlexC_> !x < AlexC_
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x < alexc_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <name7ess> but i want a quick solution
[05:06] <AlexC_> !x > AlexC_
[05:06] <ikonia_> name7ess there isn't one
[05:06] <name7ess> yes
[05:06] <ikonia_> name7ess yes what ?
[05:07] <name7ess> but i cannot be the only person with an adaptec raid under ubuntu
[05:07] <Philip> yes, what do i do after lspci?
[05:07] <ikonia_> name7ess probably not
[05:07] <name7ess> there must be a way to get it running easily
[05:07] <ikonia_> name7ess no
[05:07] <amias> Philip, tell me what it said
[05:07] <ikonia_> name7ess make a reuqest to get it packaged - or package it yourself
[05:07] <zelrikriando> can somebody help me?
[05:07] <xanfan>  are planeshift & quake the only major videogames made on linux?
[05:07] <peija-kas> no
[05:07] <zelrikriando> I want to get my card to work Oo
[05:07] <name7ess> how can i package it myself
[05:07] <xorl> xanfan: no.
[05:08] <Philip> i cant tell you, im using windows XP
[05:08] <peija-kas> unreal torunament 2003 and 2004
[05:08] <ikonia_> name7ess read the docs on buildingubuntu packages
[05:08] <xorl> xanfan: nexuiz, Doom 3, quake 4, UT2004, etc.
[05:08] <peija-kas> Enemy Territory
[05:08] <ikonia_> name7ess the wiki and forums has excellent docs
[05:08] <peija-kas> and ETs mod True Combat
[05:08] <xorl> xanfan: tons of games
[05:08] <amias> zelrikriando,  sigh , what card is it ?
[05:08] <xorl> xanfan: icculus.org, check him out.
[05:08] <xanfan> ok
[05:08] <stingray-> When i'm using a wireless ethernet card in my laptop, shouldnt it show up in /etc/network/interfaces?
[05:09] <Seveas> stingray-, depends
[05:09] <name7ess> hrmmm
[05:09] <genii> rwxr-xr--: How many machines there would have to be setup?
[05:09] <name7ess> i get a headache
[05:09] <name7ess> all i want to do is install a stupid app to monitor my raid
[05:09] <rodrigoberaldo> Boa tarde
[05:09] <name7ess> and what do i get
[05:09] <name7ess> "make a package"
[05:09] <nugenoa> lol
[05:09] <ikonia_> name7ess crying about it won't change anything
[05:09] <name7ess> i'm supposed to work, not to help ubuntu
[05:09] <genii> rwxr-xr--: I found a purely java app just now that may be a simple solution for you
[05:10] <peija-kas> name7ess ubuntu is FREE
[05:10] <stingray-> Seveas, depends on what? It's a BCM4318 chip
[05:10] <peija-kas> and comes with no warranty
[05:10] <ikonia_> name7ess is it supported under the 2.6kernel or is it a 3rd party modules ?
[05:10] <nugenoa> Crying about it won't do anything, just go install winXP name7ess.
[05:10] <Seveas> stingray-, good luck with that....
[05:10] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : sure tell me
[05:10] <name7ess> ikonia it is
[05:10] <amias>  name7ess: software raid is better IME
[05:10] <peija-kas> name7ess so dont blame Ubuntu if you have problems...we do try to help you as well as we can
[05:10] <Seveas> it's a pain to set up
[05:10] <stingray-> Seveas, i know, but that wasnt really my question :)
[05:10] <Dr_willis> xanfan,  i like RTCW:ET and of course the original RTCW also. then SavageI and savage 2 (due out soon) are comerical games.. (well savage 1 is free now)
[05:10] <ikonia_> name7ess then you shouldn't need any external software
[05:10] <name7ess> just the userspace app is proprietary
[05:10] <name7ess> afaik
[05:10] <Seveas> stingray-, heh ;)
[05:10] <ikonia_> name7ess there you go then
[05:10] <zelrikriando> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[05:10] <ikonia_> name7ess thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[05:10] <Seveas> stingray-, did you install ndiswrapper?
[05:11] <genii> rwxr-xr--: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Communications/Chat/ZMsgServer-24439.shtml
[05:11] <eck> amias: which just shows how bad hardware raid is on linux
[05:11] <moeru> whee
[05:11] <stingray-> Seveas, currently i'm using the default bcm43xx module since ndiswrapper didnt work out too well
[05:11] <Seveas> stingray-, hmm, does 4318 work with bcm43xx now?
[05:11] <stingray-> it seems to be working, although it cannot find any wireless networks
[05:11] <Seveas> yeah, I figured
[05:11] <rwxr-xr--> genii,  okiE let me chk
[05:11] <Seveas> 4318 is a no-go
[05:11] <Seveas> you need ndiswrapper
[05:12] <amias> eck: its the controller implimentations not linux , i've been bitten by firmware upgrades making the disks unreadable and you can't read them from anything that doesn't have exactly the same controller
[05:12] <stingray-> Seveas, sigh okay. Ndiswrapper also supports WAP right?
[05:12] <Seveas> yes
[05:12] <name7ess> humm
[05:12] <stingray-> good
[05:12] <nugenoa> I have a question, why is it different when I go to the recovery console and do startx that everything works? Then when I boot normaly, I get hal error and no sound?
[05:13] <nugenoa> Also /etc/init.d/gdm start just gives me a black screen.
[05:13] <amias> zelrikriando, should just work , try ' sudo modprobe snd_intel_hda model=basic'
[05:13] <cypher1> Seveas, i have been going through the generic kernel mails.. do i need to do anything extra when i run a generic kernel instead of a 386 kernel ?
[05:14] <zelrikriando> FATAL: Module snd_intel_hda not found.
[05:14] <Seveas> cypher1, generic restricted modules maybe
[05:14] <OuZo> why does google earth take up so much CPU & is so slow?
[05:14] <jokoon> Hello, I'm looking for a simple way to change my mouse cursors ...
[05:14] <eck> OuZo: because it is not a native linux app
[05:14] <zelrikriando> that s what was the answer Oo
[05:14] <Seveas> OuZo, run this command and give us the output: glxinfo | grep direct
[05:14] <cypher1> Seveas, thanks let me check whether i have it
[05:14] <amias> OuZo, cos its big and fat
[05:16] <Helmi> anyone around with  nvidia twinview experiences?
[05:16] <amias> zelrikriando, a quick google gives me this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=348340#
[05:17] <cypher1> Seveas, did you meant linux-restricted-modules-generic ?
[05:17] <Seveas> cypher1, yup
[05:17] <Esotericisms> Afternoon everyone
[05:17] <cypher1> Seveas, ok!
[05:17] <amias> nugenoa, you might have some modules loaded that are fiddling with your graphics setup , nvidia or ati by any chance ?
[05:18] <genii> rwxr-xr--: LOL geez something just occured to me
[05:18] <amias> nugenoa, have a look in /var/log/Xorg.*.log for the latest one , it should tell you whats wrong
[05:18] <genii> !linpopup | rwxr-xr--
[05:18] <ubotu> rwxr-xr--: linpopup: X Window System port of Winpopup, running over Samba. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-8 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 332 kB
[05:18] <nugenoa> amias, Thank you, yes, ATI baby. Radeon Mobility X600
[05:18] <stingray-> Seveas, omg! it actually works! Even WPA and shit
[05:19] <nugenoa> amias, Can I pastebin it for you?
[05:19] <genii> rwxr-xr--: Are you running samba over there?
[05:19] <amias> nugenoa, suppose so
[05:19] <fyrmedic> how do I auto-mount removable media like usb sticks or SD cards via on-board card reader?
[05:19] <rwxr-xr--> genii,  no
[05:20] <Seveas> fyrmedic, usb sticks should be automounted already
[05:20] <AlbertK> hi, i wonder if this is a bug: sometimes my network connection is broken on startup (without any obvious reason).
[05:20] <Seveas> fyrmedic, sd cards too, if the chipset is supported
[05:20] <genii> rwxr-xr--: Ah, Ok. Did you try the java one? I'm curious of a review
[05:20] <amias> fyrmedic, mine broke during a dist-upgrade so i installed autofs but i'm not sure thats the nomal way
[05:20] <fyrmedic> Seveas: they don't seem to mount when I plug them in.
[05:20] <Esotericisms> I must say I love ubuntu, I installed it on my laptop, and I love how fast it boots and everything. I have it installed on an inspiron 8500, I got the wired connection working and I even got the dell truemobile (bcm43xx) working with ndiswrapper, however I am experience packet loss can anyone help?
[05:20] <fyrmedic> amias: I'll give it a try
[05:20] <rwxr-xr--> genii: not a gud one. i want something like trix.. so i can send msgs or files too over lan
[05:20] <amias> fyrmedic, have you had a look at System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives
[05:21] <genii> rwxr-xr--: Ah, Ok then I'll look some more
[05:21] <fyrmedic> amias: I'm looking
[05:21] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : trix window Working fine.. but its Shows nothing in that.. no users  :>
[05:21] <wolferine> By default, ubuntu is totally locked and will not allow any incoming connections. <-- this entirely true?
[05:21] <gordonjcp> wolferine: pretty much
[05:21] <Seveas> wolferine, 'totally locked' is ambigous but the not allowing incoming connections is right
[05:21] <wolferine> what can I do to work around it?
[05:22] <rylan> can someone tell me how i can open a .rar file?
[05:22] <fyrmedic> Thanks for the fast responses. I asked the same question several times over several days on #kubuntu and haven't gotten a response yet.
[05:22] <Seveas> wolferine, work around what?
[05:22] <amias> rlyan, unrar
[05:22] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : can i paste some lines in ur pm?
[05:22] <Esotericisms> anyone?
[05:22] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : its related with txi
[05:22] <rwxr-xr--> *trix
[05:22] <rylan> !info unrar
[05:22] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[05:22] <genii> rwxr-xr--: Sure
[05:22] <wolferine> not allowing incoming connection
[05:22] <ikonia_> rwxr-xr-- trix is not an ubuntu package
[05:22] <Seveas> wolferine, what kind of connections do you want to allow?
[05:22] <wolferine> all
[05:22] <Seveas> wolferine, then install servers for connections you need
[05:23] <Seveas> eggauah, install openssh-server to allow ssh
[05:23] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, : i tried it on Ubuntu its working fine before.. but i dont know why its not working now.
[05:23] <Seveas> argh
[05:23] <wolferine> is it a firewall built within ubuntu?
[05:23] <rylan> amias, thanks
[05:23] <Seveas> !firewall | wolferine
[05:23] <ubotu> wolferine: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:23] <ikonia_> rwxr-xr-- but its not an ubuntu product - so you'd do better speaking to the trix support - rather than ubuntu
[05:23] <wolferine> or how are the ports ALL blocked?
[05:23] <jokoon> repeat : is there a simple way to change the mouse cursors in ubuntu 6.10 ?
[05:23] <Seveas> wolferine, NO ports are blocked
[05:23] <Seveas> wolferine, there simply is no server installed by default
[05:24] <wolferine> your not helping much here
[05:24] <amias> wolferine, have you tried firestarter
[05:24] <Seveas> wolferine, you're not being clear about what you want
[05:24] <AlbertK> my network connection is broken sometimes, when is startup. has anybody a sollution to offer?
[05:24] <wolferine> amias, your leading this off-topic
[05:24] <AlbertK> ah, weird grammar :)
[05:24] <wolferine> Seveas, ill wait for someone else thanks
[05:25] <_eMaX_> how can I find out with ubuntu which .config was used for my current (2.6.20-10-generic) kernel? /proc/config.gz isn't there
[05:25] <ikonia_> _eMaX_ probalby in the kernel source package
[05:25] <Rubuntu> heeeeelllp!
[05:25] <ikonia_> Rubuntu nice way to get ignored
[05:25] <wolferines> excuse me?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> !ask
[05:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:25] <Esotericisms> can anyone help me with a networking issue with my wireless card and packet loss?
[05:25] <cypher1> AlbertK, which network card are you using ?
[05:26] <ikonia_> Seveas genius
[05:26] <AlbertK> ethernet
[05:26] <aphesz> guys, i'm facing a weird problem. bought a new presario v3204 series and tried to install ubuntu but all i got is a "CRC Error --System Halted" msg right after it tries to boot vmlinuz. .iso's md5 checks out.. even tried to install with the CDs from Canonical. any suggestions? :s
[05:26] <_eMaX_> ikonia_: the kernel source package contains lots of configs, yet the question was which is my current one
[05:26] <AlbertK> cypher1: let me have a look
[05:27] <ikonia_> _eMaX_ the .config in the source tree I guess
[05:27] <jokoon> change mouse cursors ubuntu ?
[05:27] <Esotericisms> aphesz, try reburning the cd, CRC are usually cause by a bad write to cd (in my experience)
[05:27] <Seveas> _eMaX_, ikonia_: it can be found in /boot/config-*
[05:27] <amias> aphesz, burn it as slow as you can stand
[05:27] <ikonia_> make sense
[05:27] <AlbertK> cypher1: could't tell you, but i wonder if this is a bug. i never experienced it with kde / xfce
[05:27] <aphesz> the CD's are from Canonical
[05:28] <aphesz> they work fine on other machines.. just this laptop of mine
[05:28] <amias> aphesz, is it a laptop ? those drives break to easily
[05:28] <aphesz> yea it is
[05:28] <aphesz> bought it less than a week
[05:28] <cypher1> AlbertK, does lspci show anything ?
[05:28] <amias> aphesz, have you booted any other cd from it yet ?
[05:29] <_eMaX_> Seveas: not really
[05:29] <CheshireViking> jokoon, Have you tried -> System -> Preferences -> Mouse -> Pointers?
[05:29] <aphesz> amias: tried other distros' CD as well, they either spits out similar error or the screen just went blank
[05:29] <amias> aphesz, the drive sounds borked
[05:29] <Rubuntu> ok i have this problem, i downloaded ubuntu.iso and burned it into a blank cd, then booted from the disk. then go to he desktop and i try it around. i like and select install from the desktop. i complete all the steps  from 1-4 and in step 5 i select the disk space i want to use and then i press forward. then my cd-drive starts to read from the cd again but then it stops. nothing happens...
[05:29] <jokoon> CheshireViking yes but I want to set my own
[05:29] <Rubuntu> ...after that!
[05:29] <_eMaX_> Seveas: the problem is if I build the kernel with that .config, I e.g. don't get sata support in my initrd. I get the modules. so the system doesn't boot
[05:30] <zelrikriando> amias still doesnt work
[05:30] <cinnix> i have a problem. My primary partition (with ubuntu install) is significantly slower after a resize from 70gb to 150gb using gparted. its so slow that multitasking is becomming a problem and sometimes even the cursor jerks around
[05:30] <fyrmedic> What is /proc/bus/usb? Is that where I should find the CD card or removable drives?
[05:30] <Seveas> _eMaX_, the initramfs config is in /etc/initramfs-tools/
[05:30] <aphesz> amias: tried running the original .iso via vmware directly and same thing happened as well
[05:31] <_eMaX_> Seveas: and how can I find out which one was used for my current kernel
[05:31] <cypher1> cinnix, can you please paster "swapon -s " output ?
[05:31] <Seveas> _eMaX_, the same is used for all kernels
[05:31] <N3WB> How to i install Graphical drivers from a USB?
[05:31] <amias> zelrikriando, bummer , you could always add to the forum
[05:31] <N3WB> or CD
[05:31] <N3WB> whatever that works best
[05:31] <r00tintheb0x> Is there a way to "change roots email addy", so all the mail to /var/mail/root gets sent to testemail@testdomain.com?
[05:31] <_eMaX_> I mean that one is used for defining which modules go into initrd/initramfs, right?
[05:31] <Jense> hello
[05:31] <cinnix> cyper1, 2 secs
[05:31] <AlbertK> cypher1:  Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 10)
[05:31] <Jense> how can I do a complete system update from dapper to etchy?
[05:31] <Rubuntu> heey..... admins..... listening...?
[05:32] <devexial> vote ubuntu for dell linux poll: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux
[05:32] <[PCR] ChristheR> hey
[05:32] <ikonia_> devexial no
[05:32] <Seveas> Rubuntu, ?
[05:32] <eck> r00tintheb0x: i think you can use /etc/aliases
[05:32] <r00tintheb0x> cool thanks
[05:32] <ctech21> hey guys
[05:32] <[PCR] ChristheR> some one know how MSN i can use with Linux Ubuntu?
[05:32] <Rubuntu> so i told my problem already, should i tell it again?
[05:32] <Seveas> [PCR] ChristheR, use gaim, it's installed by default
[05:32] <devexial> [PCR] ChristheR: use GAIM
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Ive just noticed that both Frys.com and Walmart.com  no longer have preinstalled Linux machines on their web sites.
[05:32] <Yggdrasil> pcr gaim
[05:32] <eck> it might be different depending on what MTA you are using
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !p2p
[05:32] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:33] <N3WB> How to i install Graphical drivers from a USB?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> oops..  wrong factoid
[05:33] <N3WB> or CD
[05:33] <N3WB> whatever that works best
[05:33] <nugenoa> amias, this is taking a bit longer then expected.
[05:33] <Rubuntu> ok i have this problem, i downloaded ubuntu.iso and burned it into a blank cd, then booted from the disk. then go to he desktop and i try it around. i like and select install from the desktop. i complete all the steps  from 1-4 and in step 5 i select the disk space i want to use and then i press forward. then my cd-drive starts to read from the cd again but then it stops. nothing happens...
[05:33] <Dr_willis> N3WB,  and what video card do you have?
[05:33] <Rubuntu> ...after that!
[05:33] <ctech21> this is my first time installing ubuntu, and i went on the site to look up how to install my nvidia card.. following the instructions, it broke my installation.. how can i fix it now?
[05:33] <nugenoa> amias, I may have fixed it too.
[05:33] <ctech21> it said to change a value from nv to nvidia, or the other way around
[05:33] <amias> nugenoa, cool
[05:33] <Dr_willis> ctech21,  you need to install the 'nvidia' packages first befor doing that
[05:33] <JohnPhys> ctech21 : well, you also have to install the nvidia driver packages
[05:33] <_eMaX_> Seveas: and if this is so, it is used for /creating/ the initramfs. now I got my -generic kernel from the repository, and have perhaps no idea what was used to create its initramfs. Else if the initramfs is created on my system later even if I used a -generic kernel, I wonder how comes that when I create my own kernel and then install the kernel image, the initramfs doesn't work: no sata, no vesafb
[05:33] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:33] <ctech21> i did
[05:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:33] <absolut_>  did you make a backup copy of your xorg.conf ?
[05:33] <N3WB> dr willis: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS
[05:34] <ctech21> nvidia geforce 7600gts i have
[05:34] <ctech21> it wont go
[05:34] <cinnix> cyper1, no output
[05:35] <Dr_willis> N3WB,  THAT specific card - I belive is so new - it requires the latest nvidia beta drivers from their web site.
[05:35] <nikkelitous> I have a problem.  I installed myphpmoney through apt-get and now I can't get it to remove.  I run "sudo apt-get remove myphpmoney" but it just restarts apache then doesn't do anything else.  Doesn't actually remove it at all.
[05:35] <absolut_> Besides w32codecs and gstreamer packages ...anything else is needed for mp3 support on Rhythmbox? (cause it still isn't working)
[05:35] <nugenoa> amias, is there a way to test my sound via an app?
[05:35] <JohnPhys> absolut_ :  did you restart rhythmbox?
[05:36] <N3WB> i got them on a USB Stick
[05:36] <N3WB> i downloaded them yesterday
[05:36] <absolut_> yeah ..
[05:36] <asdf2644788> hi all!!!!!
[05:36] <Rubuntu> polttaja: moi ootko saanu ubuntun asennettuu et voisitko auttaa mua?
[05:36] <N3WB> How would i get them installed from a USB Stick?
[05:36] <dark> heya guys
[05:36] <cinnix> my primary partition was resized from 70gb - 150gb using gparted from live cd. now my install is significantly slower, its worse at multitasking and sometimes the cursor lags. can someone help please?
[05:36] <asdf2644788> i need help
[05:36] <absolut_> well ...installed the packages under dapper ... it didn't work ...upgraded to Edgy ...and it still won't do it. Should i just try reinstall under Edgy?
[05:36] <devexial> asdf2644788: go
[05:36] <JohnPhys> cinnix : Sorry, I'm not sure how to go about diagnosing the problem
[05:36] <asdf2644788> i have installed ubuntu 6.06 but network does not work
[05:37] <JohnPhys> asdf: wired or wireless?
[05:37] <Dumahen> !php
[05:37] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:37] <asdf2644788> lan
[05:37] <asdf2644788> dhcp
[05:37] <cinnix> JohnPhys: no worries :), im using xfce atm which sorta helps
[05:37] <nikkelitous> How do you force an uninstall that apt-get can't actually remove.  I'm guessing it's got a problem in the package or something, but apt-get just can't remove it.
[05:37] <dromer> hi, I finally got twinview working, but I can't make, for example, vlc go fullscreen on the tv, when I move the vlc-window and fullscreen it. it goes back to the CRT
[05:38] <asdf2644788> liveCD can't see my lan too :(
[05:38] <JohnPhys> asdf : what chipset is your lan?
[05:38] <stingray-> How to i check which version of ALSA i'm using? (Fresh install of 6.10)
[05:38] <rambo3> asdf2644788, check dmesg
[05:39] <asdf2644788> realtek
[05:39] <Rubuntu> ok nobody listening to me.... sigh.... i would have liked to use ubuntu but i cant coz U ADMINISTRATORS WONT HELP ME! i asked my question 5 TIMES ALREADY GODDAMMIT!  ok i just use my grand ol' win95 thx to you.... THX REALLY I APPRECIATE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:39] <eck> nikkelitous: i guess you can try dpkg, but if apt won't remove it then dpkg might not either
[05:39] <rambo3> !fi
[05:39] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[05:39] <stingray-> Rubuntu, well, perhaps there is noone here that can help you?
[05:39] <asdf2644788> ls /dev/ | grep eth            show nothing
[05:39] <nikkelitous> eck: Tried, same exact problem.
[05:39] <N3WB> How do i install GeForce 8800 GTS Drivers from a USB Stick?
[05:39] <stingray-> Rubuntu, perhaps its time for you to go google a little yourself
[05:39] <mcquaid> is there someway I can use vnc with nat traveral?
[05:39] <mcquaid> traversal even
[05:39] <ardchoille> Rubuntu: Not everyone here is expert in everything about Ubuntu
[05:40] <dark> mcquaid
[05:40] <dark> m8
[05:40] <mcquaid> mb?
[05:40] <dark> come to private
[05:40] <PriceChild> !patience | Rubuntu
[05:40] <ubotu> Rubuntu: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:40] <dark> i need a say one question
[05:40] <rambo3> Rubuntu, go bother Linux he aint far from you
[05:40] <Dan_> Hello!
[05:40] <PriceChild> Rubuntu, repeat your question for me please
[05:41] <N3WB> How do i install GeForce 8800 GTS Drivers from a USB Stick?
[05:41] <Rubuntu> omg! google by myself?! oh my god! my mom told me that all the freaks use google! she warned me about you lol im going to finnish channel
[05:41] <N3WB> or CD
[05:41] <nikkelitous> eck: I get the same problem in dpkg.  Any idea how to at least remove it from the database?
[05:41] <sethk> mcquaid, nothing different is required because of the use of NAT
[05:41] <Dan_> would anyone be able to lend some help?
[05:41] <PriceChild> !ask | Dan_
[05:41] <ubotu> Dan_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:41] <ardchoille> Rubuntu: You might want to try the alternate ISO as the desktop installer has had some problems.
[05:41] <asdf2644788> i'm sorry - not realtek but Attansic L1 Gigabit
[05:41] <Rubuntu> well now when i got your attention, well....
[05:41] <Rubuntu> ok i have this problem, i downloaded ubuntu.iso and burned it into a blank cd, then booted from the disk. then go to he desktop and i try it around. i like and select install from the desktop. i complete all the steps  from 1-4 and in step 5 i select the disk space i want to use and then i press forward. then my cd-drive starts to read from the cd again but then it stops. nothing happens...
[05:41] <Rubuntu> ...after that!
[05:42] <ardchoille> Rubuntu: I want in front of the computer until just now. Dude, chill :)
[05:42] <ikonia_> Rubuntu we saw you tell us the first 10 times
[05:42] <sjust1216> Hi all I installed Feisty and now grub does work correctly
[05:42] <Dan_> !ask I have the lastest version 6.10 downloaded and burned correctly (as per CHECK) and when I boot live, I get the error - Failed to start the X server.
[05:42] <PriceChild> ikonia_, I asked for a repeat thankyou
[05:42] <CheshireViking> Rubuntu, also, try re-downloading the iso & reburning it to cd at a slower speed
[05:42] <ikonia_> PriceChild ahhh sorry
[05:42] <PriceChild> Rubuntu, How patient have you been? It could take some time
[05:42] <eck> nikkelitous: there is a --force-things option, but obviously you should use it with caution
[05:42] <ikonia_> it just looks like he keeps repeating it
[05:42] <JohnPhys> asdf :  It could be that your chipset isn't supported by the kernel used, though I'm not sure.  Personally, I haven't heard of that chipset before.
[05:42] <sethk> Dan_, try the text mode install on the alternate cd
[05:42] <mcquaid> sethk, not sure I get it, I'm behind a router which I don't have access to.  How would I access this box from the outside for say vnc without the router being setup for forwarding to this box?
[05:42] <ardchoille> Rubuntu: download and burn the alternate iso and try installing from that.
[05:42] <nikkelitous> Dan_: Any specifics?
[05:42] <eck> nikkelitous: that is all i can think of
[05:42] <PriceChild> Rubuntu, other than that i suggest downloading and installing the alternate
[05:42] <PriceChild> !alternate | Rubuntu
[05:42] <ubotu> Rubuntu: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:42] <dromer> how can I "force" vlc to go only to the tv-monitor of my twinview-setup when in fullscreen? because now it always goes back to the crt
[05:43] <nikkelitous> eck: Yeah, but nothing else will work, so It's worth a try.
[05:43] <ardchoille> PriceChild: Thank you
[05:43] <N3WB> How do i install GeForce 8800 GTS Drivers from a USB Stick or a DVD?
[05:43] <sethk> mcquaid, if the box is set up to do NAT in the usual way, you connect to it using it's public IP address.  If you don't know the public address, there are a number of web sites that will return it to you (e.g. whatsmyipaddress.com)
[05:43] <PriceChild> !nvidia9 | N3WB
[05:43] <ubotu> N3WB: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[05:43] <deafboy> i play wow on my ubuntu box, and during the day on my res net connection my game DOESN"T lag on linux but it does in XP, would anyone know why this is other than that linux is better?
[05:43] <PriceChild> N3WB, I suggest you download the  .run file from nvidia.com and install manually
[05:44] <rausb0> Rubuntu: run the CD check in the CD's boot menu. maybe you have read errors on the CD.
[05:44] <Rubuntu> ok ok count to ten man count to ten...1...2...3...4...5...6...7....8...9...0...0...0....0... boot from disk failed system error ''count to ten not recognized as a folder or a program booting now deleting ubuntu and windows....
[05:44] <ardchoille> Rubuntu: When you boot up the alternate iso, try the "Install in text mode", it had always worked good for me.
[05:44] <Dan_> nik, what specifics would you like?
[05:44] <Rubuntu> okok
[05:44] <absolut_> deafboy: sbu ? :P
[05:44] <mcquaid> yes i can determine the ip easily.  But say two boxes were running vnc.  How would it know which box is receiving a join request from a vnc client if port forwarding isn't already set up
[05:44] <deafboy> absolut_: sbu?
[05:44] <eth01> ifconfig
[05:44] <sjust1216> I am using grub off a live cd to boot but I would like to fix my problem
[05:44] <absolut_> nm
[05:44] <JohnPhys> PriceChild:  in the ubotu nvidia9 message, are the "official" drivers the ones from nvidia.com, or the ones in the repos?
[05:44] <PriceChild> JohnPhys, /me reads
[05:45] <PriceChild> JohnPhys, from nvidia
[05:45] <asdf2644788> ifconfig show only lo
[05:45] <zelrikriando> ahhh I am lost
[05:45] <PriceChild> JohnPhys, or ati :P
[05:45] <sethk> JohnPhys, the repo, but I use the other
[05:45] <PriceChild> sethk, no... envy installs 3rd party
[05:45] <sethk> PriceChild, that has nothing to do with his question
[05:45] <ardchoille> Rubuntu: You seem frustrated right now, I would recommend before you try installing the alternate iso, take a break.. maybe have a bite to eat. Then come back :)
[05:46] <djdarkman> hy ,how can I downgrade a package?
[05:46] <PriceChild> sethk, he asked whether they were from ubuntu's repos, or from nvidia.com
[05:46] <JohnPhys> PriceChild:  thanks.
[05:46] <sethk> PriceChild, he asked which were the 'official' drivers, not which were installed by envy
[05:46] <PriceChild> sethk, I'm not arguing this
[05:47] <mcquaid> sethk, say two boxes behind this router were running a vnc server.  Yes i can easily determine the outside ip address.  But if I connect from the outside with a vnc client by just using the ip, how would it know which box I'm trying to connect to
[05:47] <sethk> PriceChild, sure sounds like you are.  :)
[05:47] <sethk> mcquaid, NAT is a bidirectional transformation.  An incoming packet's address is changed from the public address to the private address, and sent to the machine
[05:47] <zipper_> In this guide ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AsusA6Rp?highlight=%28asus%29%7C%28a6r%29 ) it tells me to patch a source before compiling it. How is that done?
[05:47] <sethk> mcquaid, the mirror image of what happens to an outgoing packet
[05:47] <nugenoa> Ubuntu only works when it wants to.
[05:48] <Dan_> tell that to france
[05:48] <distant_voice> I'm a complete newbie when it comes to X-Windows. Oftentimes a program hangs, the screen is blank and I have to reboot. What can I do to go back to the desktop to close the program manually?
[05:48] <JohnPhys> sethk:  My wording may have been unclear, but I was asking what the ubotu message meant when it said that evny helped installation of the official drivers, so I was asking what "official" meant in that sentence, nvidia.com or repos
[05:48] <Dan_> if its not windows/mac im LOST
[05:48] <sethk> JohnPhys, oh, ok, my mistake then
[05:49] <JohnPhys> sethk, no problems, I should have been clearer
[05:49] <sethk> JohnPhys, installing the nvidia drivers is a single simple command, so why bother with envy?
[05:49] <dromer> hmm, the screen on my tv is about 1 inch off to the left, how can I shift it right?
[05:49] <mcquaid> okay... but I still don't see the solution.  I'm on the outside with a vnc client.  I connect to the router's public ip address say 1.2.3.4.  Behind this router there are two vnc servers running, how does it know which one I mean?
[05:50] <JohnPhys> sethk:  I have no idea, I just use the packaged ones.  My intent in asking the question (which I didn't follow up on) was to see if the bot message needed to be changed to something like "the official drivers from a 3rd party site" or some such thing.
[05:50] <sethk> mcquaid, maybe you aren't using NAT normally.  Perhaps you are really doing connection sharing?  In a normal NAT setup, a public address maps to only one private address.
[05:50] <xevil> ardchoille: isn't your nic a Gaelic phrase that was the war cry of Clan MacGregor?
[05:50] <sethk> JohnPhys, couldn't hurt to clarify
[05:50] <ardchoille> xevil: Very perceptive of you :D
[05:50] <ardchoille> xevil: Yes, I am a member of Clan Gregor
[05:50] <Federico90> hi all
[05:51] <Federico90> i've a question
[05:51] <xevil> ardchoille: I am from Clan MacGregor as well... :)
[05:51] <Federico90> can u help me?
[05:51] <CheshireViking> !ask | Federico90
[05:51] <ubotu> Federico90: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <jenda> How can I edit/clear the xmodmap files that are loaded? For some reason, my Alt key doesn't work as a modifier any more, and I can't fix it.
[05:51] <Dan_> I have tried 2 identical machines and i get the error Failed to start the X server. I am trying to install 6.10 newest, and I ran CHECK on the desk and it checked out fine.
[05:51] <ardchoille> xevil: Small world
[05:51] <PriceChild> !offtopic | ardchoille
[05:51] <ubotu> ardchoille: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:51] <Federico90> ok XD do someone know when pentium iii exit from the commerce?
[05:51] <ardchoille> PriceChild: Thank you for pointing out the obvious :)
[05:51] <ikonia_> Federico90 thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[05:52] <sethk> Dan_, of course.  if it won't work on a box, it won't work on another identical box
[05:52] <xevil> nah... the MacGregors just got around... not necessarily because they wanted to...
[05:52] <Federico90> yap but it is a little thing
[05:52] <sethk> Dan_, it would be a problem if it _did_ work on one, but not the other
[05:52] <sethk> Dan_, use the text mode install on the alternate cd
[05:52] <zipper_> In this guide ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AsusA6Rp?highlight=%28asus%29%7C%28a6r%29 ) it tells me to patch a source before compiling it. How is that done?
[05:52] <PriceChild> ardchoille, This channel is for support only. No more warnings.
[05:52] <N3WB> How do i install GeForce 8800 GTS Drivers from a USB Stick or a DVD?
[05:52] <Dan_> sethk, the first machine is believed to have some firmware issues that i wasn't aware of. when i realized that i used another machine that I know does not have trouble.
[05:53] <ardchoille> PriceChild: May I pm you?
[05:53] <Federico90> anyway sry
[05:53] <Federico90> bye
[05:53] <PriceChild> N3WB, download the nvidia.com .run file then follow this guide http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[05:53] <PriceChild> ardchoille, Sure
[05:53] <sethk> Dan_, then they aren't identical.  what video hardware is in the box, do you know?
[05:54] <tupacamaru> ciao federico anchio sono italiano
[05:54] <distant_voice> is there anything like alt-tab in windows when I want to change to the desktop from a program that runs fullscreen?
[05:54] <Dan_> sethk, im not sure what video hardware specificly is in here. its an eMac
[05:54] <distant_voice> I can't close programs that hang in fullscreen
[05:54] <nikkelitous> Does anyone know of any way to just remove a package from the apt-get database?  I can manually uninstall it if I can get it out of the database.
[05:55] <sethk> Dan_, the installer, due to space issues, supports fewer types of graphics than the o/s itself.  If you use the text mode installer, you should be able to install and then use the graphics on the box.
[05:55] <PriceChild> distant_voice, you could perhaps ctrl+alt+f1 then log in and kill the app from there then ctrl+alt+f7
[05:55] <sethk> Dan_, I can't say that for certain, of course, unless I know the graphics hardware, but it's quite likely
[05:55] <PriceChild> !away > BackwardsDown|we
[05:55] <btaylor> guys, my keyboard stopped working in X, but it works fine at the console; does anyone have any ideas?
[05:55] <sethk> Dan_, if you boot a cd in a command line mode, you can use the command "lspci" to find out what the graphics hardware is.
[05:55] <jenda> How can I reset X's keyboard layouts?
[05:56] <jenda> Fiddling with them in gnome doesn't help :/
[05:56] <distant_voice> PriceChild is there no other way? in windows you could just alt-tab
[05:56] <Seveas> jenda, with a large hammer :)
[05:56] <N3WB> How do i install GeForce 8800 GTS Drivers from a USB Stick or a DVD?
[05:56] <jenda> muhaha
[05:56] <N3WB> and no Evny is no option (no internet)
[05:56] <distant_voice> PriceChild: like you can in Ubuntu, but it doesn't work when an app is in fullscreen
[05:56] <ikonia_> N3WB download the packages to the usb stick and the dependency packages and do "dpkg -i $package name"
[05:57] <jenda> :)
[05:57] <PriceChild> jenda, please read operator guidelines. :P
[05:57] <jenda> PriceChild: I'm not even an op here
[05:57] <jenda> 
[05:57] <zelrikriando> why do I get permission denied when I want to create a directory?
[05:57] <PriceChild> ikonia_, his card isn't supported by ubuntu's packages
[05:57] <PriceChild> !sudo | zelrikriando
[05:57] <ubotu> zelrikriando: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:57] <ikonia_> PriceChild ahh is it an 8800
[05:57] <Seveas> jenda, fixed :)
[05:57] <ikonia_> he didn't mention that
[05:57] <Dan_> sethk, is this something that needs to be run from the alternate cd?
[05:57] <Seveas> jenda, btw through *!*@freenode/staff/* you're also op ;)
[05:58] <zelrikriando> ok
[05:58] <PriceChild> ikonia_, yes :)
[05:58] <jenda> Seveas: I was just about to tell PriceChild that I'm in a bad enough mood to abuse any powers I might have...
[05:58] <ikonia_> I guess he could download from nvidia and hope to compiler the kernel interface ok
[05:58] <jenda> Seveas: since when do I have freenode/staff? ;)
[05:58] <sethk> Dan_, yes, the text mode installer is on the alternate cd.  You can get to a command line using either cd.
[05:58] <dromer> hi, when I fullscreen vlc on my tv it goes to the other screen, how can I prevent this?
[05:59] <Dan_> sethk, i have the reg. bootcd ready, what can i do while i download the alternate cd
[05:59] <jenda> Seveas: quit taunting ;)
[05:59] <jenda> Seveas: and I can't even alt-tab away from the window, as my alt doesn't work...
[05:59] <Seveas> bwaha
[05:59] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Day 3 : Same Question:  I have tried to install the Nvidia drivers for my Older card.  The last version of the driver that supports my card is the 1.9632 version, After solving the lack of packages problem i have gotten the install to run fully and compile a new kernel. Yet when I restart X server tried to use the new 1.9632 yet the kernel still was using the 1.74xx version.  Where do i need to look to find which module is being loaded?
[06:00] <ikonia_> i3ooi3oo I asked you earlier if you have tried the nvidia legacy package ?
[06:00] <cdavis> how do I remove all the dependencies that are installed when I install and then want to remove something like kvpnc?
[06:00] <ikonia_> i3ooi3oo have you tried the nvidia legacy package
[06:01] <Dan_> sethk, how do i get out of the boot: prompt to be able to use LSPCI
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <sethk> Dan_, boot the cd and check the startup choices.  One is something like "safe graphics mode", and another should say something about a command line boot.
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <I3ooI3oo_werking> yes
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <cdavis> JohnPhys, even though I uncommented multivers in /et/apt it was not enabled in synaptic package manager.  When I enagbled that it found vmware-player
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <sethk> Dan_, you have to boot the system and get a command line to use lspci.
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking which ubuntu packages have you teied
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <ikonia_> tried
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking and which card is it
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <I3ooI3oo_werking> it is a ti 5500
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <I3ooI3oo_werking> err 500
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:01] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking and which ubuntu drivers did you try
[06:01] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:02] <I3ooI3oo_werking> and the latest stable installed sunday
[06:02] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:02] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking thats not what I asked. Which ubuntu packages have you tried
[06:02] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:02] <I3ooI3oo_werking> 6.10 32 bit i386
[06:02] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:02] <I3ooI3oo_werking> oic
[06:02] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:03] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking again - thats not what I asked, which ubuntu nvidia driver packages have you tried
[06:03] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:03] <I3ooI3oo_werking> the one that came installed was 1.74xx
[06:03] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:03] <avno> Hello
[06:03] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:03] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking so thats not the nvidia legacy package
[06:03] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:03] <I3ooI3oo_werking> I didn't know ubuntu had their own packages
[06:03] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:03] <avno> Is there a specific room for wireless networking?
[06:03] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:03] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking I told you 3 times
[06:03] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:03] <I3ooI3oo_werking> i dl from nvidia
[06:03] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:04] <ikonia_> stop saying yes it is
[06:04] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:04] <betatux> Is anyone interested in modifying 'avant-window-navigator' into a buttonbar instead of a tasklist ? Please send tell.
[06:04] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:04] <ikonia_> can an op kick totall_6_7
[06:04] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:04] <dromer> can someone help me with this?
[06:04] <totall_6_7> yes it is
[06:04] <ikonia_> thanks
[06:04] <Amon-san> thanks
[06:04] <Dan_> sethk, im going to give a shot
[06:04] <Seveas> ikonia_, don't forget !ops :)
[06:04] <ikonia_> Seveas didn't seem warrented
[06:04] <Plutonium> i installed ubuntu and the firefox cant open pages like yahoo can anyone helps
[06:04] <Seveas> ikonia_, flooding is though
[06:04] <ikonia_> trying not to be quick draw mcGraw
[06:05] <connor> can someone help me to get my wirless card working
[06:05] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Please forgive me for i didn't understand what you "told em 3 times."
[06:05] <connor> *wireless
[06:05] <ikonia_> !nvidia >I3ooI3oo_werking
[06:05] <Johnny_> anyone got ubuntu to work with the nvidia 6600 series cards>?
[06:05] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking try reading that link in the pm - you'll find it helpful
[06:05] <Plutonium> Johnny: i
[06:05] <avno> What's the name of wireless networking room?
[06:05] <PriceChild> avno, here :)
[06:06] <jenda> So... any idea how to make X forget I ever fiddled with my keyboard? Or... maybe it's XGL I need to convince...
[06:06] <avno> Aha
[06:06] <grogoreo> connect irc.tveps.net
[06:06] <snaidis> Hello, I'm new with UBUNTU
[06:06] <Johnny_> Plutonium you were able to run any debian live cd and plus able to run the newest gparted?
[06:06] <snaidis> just moved today
[06:06] <snaidis> I have a problem with the internet there
[06:06] <Plutonium> ya
[06:06] <avno> It seems I'm the only one having problems with Linksys WMP54GR?
[06:06] <Johnny_> seems that my NX6600 does not support ubuntu
[06:06] <Plutonium> Johnny_: yeah
[06:06] <Johnny_> :S
[06:07] <snaidis> I have a router
[06:07] <snaidis> and I cant connect
[06:07] <Plutonium> Johnny_: download automatix and install the nvidia drivers
[06:07] <ardchoille> !automatix | Plutonium
[06:07] <ubotu> Plutonium: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:07] <I3ooI3oo_werking> but it states "You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6"." Mine is a GeForce TI500
[06:08] <snaidis> I have Linksys befw11s4 so how do i configure the internet?
[06:08] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking thats where the nvidia-legacy package is in place- for older cards
[06:08] <Johnny_> hm
[06:08] <avno> Anybody with experience on Linksys WMP54GR wireless card?
[06:08] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking try the nvidia package - and also the legacy package
[06:08] <snaidis> Anyone? help?
[06:08] <Plutonium> ubotu : thx
[06:08] <avno> Is wireless, snaidis?
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <avno> Is it wireless?
[06:09] <snaidis> yes wireless
[06:09] <avno> Is the chipset Ralink?
[06:09] <snaidis> hhmm what do you mean?
[06:09] <Plutonium> ubotu : i just realized that the shutdown system button disappeared and i don t know why
[06:09] <PriceChild> !bot | Plutonium
[06:09] <ubotu> Plutonium: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:10] <avno> The little chip on your card, is it Ralink?
[06:10] <avno> The name of it...
[06:10] <snaidis> D-Link
[06:10] <avno> This is the brand of the card itself!
[06:11] <avno> If you look on the card, find the name of the main chip!
[06:11] <linuxnubie> dose any body know how to get a memory card reader running in edgy v6.10 on a dell inspirion 9400
[06:11] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Ok thanks Ikonia, I will try that later when i get home.
[06:11] <snaidis> I should open the computer to see that?
[06:11] <Johnny_> Plutonium: See I cannot isntall anything if i do not have an operating system isntalled, When i run ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10 live-cd everything boots up to the ubuntu desktop from what i can hear on my speakers but icannot see anything "input not supported"
[06:11] <avno> Not necceseraly!
[06:11] <PriceChild> snaidis, if you are running ubuntu atm then run "lspci"
[06:11] <I3ooI3oo_werking> i didn't know i could enable the restricted packages
[06:12] <IcemanV9> Plutonium: add it back again by right-click on the panel and select "add to panel"
[06:12] <avno> If you have the card-box of the card, look for its model name and then try the Internet to find the chipset!
[06:12] <Nelo> Hello, I have a machine with 4Gigs of RAM. However, ubuntu 6.10 only user 3Gigs. Is there a way I could address this?  Thanks.
[06:12] <I3ooI3oo_werking> 3GB is limmit for most i386 32 bit
[06:13] <snaidis> what is ubuntu atm?
[06:13] <avno> ATM...?
[06:13] <avno> Don't know...
[06:13] <snaidis> sorry but i just moved today...
[06:13] <Johnny_> at the moment
[06:13] <kira> Hi alle! Habe auf meinem Kubuntu 6.06 alles instaliert auch das libdevcss2 und trotzdem kann ich keine dvd schauen habe nur sound sonst nichts knnt ihr mir helfen?
[06:13] <snaidis> ah LOL
[06:13] <Seveas> I3ooI3oo_werking, 4gb :)
[06:13] <Seveas> !de | kira
[06:13] <ubotu> kira: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:13] <beni> kira hast du die ganzen codecs installierT?
[06:13] <I3ooI3oo_werking> but bios runs in the upper 1 gb range
[06:13] <Plutonium> icemanv9: it s on but only i can hibernate
[06:13] <Seveas> !de | beni
[06:13] <ubotu> beni: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:14] <snaidis> what if i dont have the card box?
[06:14] <MadDog011> Where does beryl hide the LOG file...
[06:14] <beni> Seveas: sorry
[06:14] <I3ooI3oo_werking> along with pci addressing
[06:14] <_wraith_> Seveas, got a sec?
[06:14] <PriceChild> MadDog011, >#ubuntu-effects
[06:14] <avno> Then, turn of the machine and take a look on the card!
[06:14] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking is there a point to this explination ?
[06:14] <IcemanV9> /var/log
[06:14] <Seveas> _wraith_, sure
[06:14] <avno> Probably you have to remove it from the pci slot!
[06:14] <Plutonium> can anyone open yahoo pages on ubuntu
[06:14] <Seveas> I3ooI3oo_werking, and what makes you think it uses a GB :)
[06:15] <snaidis> OK and then I should find drivers for it-for linux?
[06:15] <Nelo> I3ooI3oo_ thanks for the info..
[06:15] <avno> Probably!!!
[06:15] <I3ooI3oo_werking> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html <-- is a nice explinatio of mem addressing and 4GB limits
[06:15] <_wraith_> Seveas, I just added an old hd to my case (fat32 or ntfs filesystem) prob is, when i tried to boot with both hd's hooked up i got "inconsistent filesystem" and ubuntu would not load
[06:15] <_wraith_> any ideas?
[06:15] <avno> If the chipset is Ralink, then I'm afraid it won't work!!!
[06:15] <ikonia_> _wraith_ fsck the ubuntu filesystems
[06:15] <bluffer_> hello ubunters
[06:15] <SGorillaaaa> how can i turn on transparent window bars in metacity?
[06:15] <snaidis> ?
[06:15] <Seveas> _wraith_, other than, "disconnect the hd", no
[06:15] <avno> I have the same chipset on my Linksys card and I can't make it work, whatever I tried!!!
[06:16] <bluffer_> ardchoille up ?
[06:16] <ikonia_> SGorillaaaa think that needs composite support thats not enabled in ubuntus metacity build
[06:16] <_wraith_> Seveas, i disconnected it, what i would like to do is format it to ext3
[06:16] <snaidis> After ill install it the internet should work proply or i should install anything else?
[06:16] <_wraith_> so that way the work together
[06:16] <ikonia_> _wraith_ fsck the ubuntu filesystems
[06:16] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Ikonia : no point just trying to be helpfull, not just a leach.
[06:16] <_wraith_> ikonia, dunno how
[06:16] <avno> You mean, after you install the driver...?
[06:16] <snaidis> yes
[06:16] <_wraith_> all i got was a menu with ubuntu kernel, ubuntu kernal generic "recovery mode"
[06:16] <ikonia_> _wraith_ boot from the live cd - and run fsck -t ext3 -n /dev/$device_with_the_filesytem on
[06:17] <avno> Just the drivers should do...
[06:17] <ikonia_> _wraith_ then change the -n to -y
[06:17] <avno> But even the drivers themselves need some configuration!
[06:17] <Helmi> hey guys - i justr installed beryl successfully with nvidia - when i switch to beryl as the windows manager al the window decorations (title bar and so on) go away - any ideqas?
[06:17] <frtmonster> hi, what can i do to make my ubuntu run faster? i'm on a celeron laptop with XFCE
[06:17] <snaidis> OK I'll try to find the name and hen ill return here :)
[06:17] <snaidis> thanks
[06:17] <avno> OK
[06:17] <_wraith_> ikonia_, ok will try that (if i can find my ubuntu disk)
[06:17] <ikonia_> frtmonster buy more ram, get a faster cpu - use less apps, make more swap
[06:17] <frtmonster> ikonia more swap? i have 500MB for about 200mb ram
[06:18] <ikonia_> frtmonster yup
[06:18] <ikonia_> frtmonster its one option
[06:18] <Seveas> frtmonster, more ram won't hurt
[06:18] <frtmonster> how much more and how would it help?
[06:18] <avno> Anybody with Ralink chipset...?
[06:18] <Rooy> avno: me, rt61
[06:18] <frtmonster> yea, but i want to cancel stuff to make it faster, play with the settings and stuff
[06:18] <rbil> Helmi: do u have this line in Device section of your xorg.conf?  Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals"          "true"
[06:18] <ikonia_> frtmonster disable any boot scripts you don't need
[06:18] <avno> How did you make it work, Roovy?
[06:18] <Rooy> avno: 1814:0302
[06:18] <ikonia_> turn off as much decoration as you can
[06:19] <ikonia_> frtmonster don't have a desktop wall papaer
[06:19] <avno> lspci?
[06:19] <ikonia_> etc
[06:19] <Seveas> use ubuntu in txt mode :)
[06:19] <Rooy> avno: i'm not sure which really helps, but i did 2 things
[06:19] <Helmi> rbil, no will try thanks
[06:19] <avno> Please, let's pas to private...!
[06:20] <Rooy> avno: first I get the rt2x00 kernel module from http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com, compile that and use it
[06:20] <_wraith_> ikonia_, one more q: when you type path_to_device you put $ first, is that needed?
[06:20] <nxvl> is there any problom with cupsys in feisty?
[06:20] <connor> can someone help me get my wireless working
[06:20] <_wraith_> typed
[06:20] <ikonia_> _wraith_ no $ = a variable
[06:20] <Seveas> !someone | connor
[06:20] <ubotu> connor: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:20] <avno> Rooy, in private!
[06:20] <_wraith_> ikonia, thanks, will try
[06:21] <Razdaman> Hi guys - is it possible to install all pending "automatic updates" from console?
[06:21] <avno> Check your client
[06:21] <ikonia_> _wraith_ that normally will sort you out
[06:21] <Seveas> nxvl, there seems to be
[06:21] <jdr_> !asf
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <ctrl_x> how to learn Terminal command to install and uninstall application???
[06:21] <I3ooI3oo_werking> ikonia: since you are so helpfull in a aggressive way, can you answer another newbie question. I have a another hdd NTFS with my MP3s and some other files i would like to keep the drive is in but i need to mount it do i need more options than just the "mount -t ntfs \dev\hda2 \mountlocation"?
[06:21] <Seveas> !asf is <alias> codecs
[06:21] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[06:21] <_wraith_> ikonia_, hope so, found my cd so i'll hook the cable back up and give it a go
[06:21] <jdr_> !asf
[06:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:21] <ctrl_x> Is there any ubuntu site to learn ubuntu basic
[06:21] <jdr_> thx
[06:21] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking nope, you're spot on
[06:21] <ctrl_x> to familiar with ubuntu
[06:21] <Seveas> I3ooI3oo_werking, you need to use / not \
[06:22] <I3ooI3oo_werking> ko i guess when i first tried i wanted to mount to / and it didn't like that
[06:22] <ikonia_> Seveas thats interesting the \'s show up as / on my screen
[06:22] <Seveas> I3ooI3oo_werking, also to let normal users read from it you need some extra options
[06:22] <I3ooI3oo_werking> so i will try it again
[06:22] <ikonia_> I3ooI3oo_werking you can't mount to "root"
[06:22] <nugenoa> Anyone know what this is?
[06:22] <nugenoa> ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?
[06:22] <ikonia_> nugenoa a question mark ?
[06:22] <Seveas> I3ooI3oo_werking, you should mount to /mnt/bla (creat that dir first)
[06:23] <frtmonster> ikonia i don't :o and where can i disable boot scripts?
[06:23] <nugenoa> no, ikonia_ this, ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?
[06:23] <puzzle> #uguntu
[06:23] <ikonia_> frtmonster check the wiki - its has guides
[06:23] <bluffer_> ardchoille when you are back see the pm
[06:23] <N3WB> how do i run a .run file?
[06:23] <ikonia_> N3WB if thats the nvidia drivers - I'd advise against it
[06:24] <Seveas> N3WB, chmod + bla.run && ./bla.run
[06:24] <defrysk> sh blah.run
[06:24] <frtmonster> ikonia the ubuntu wiki?
[06:24] <ikonia_> frtmonster yes
[06:24] <frtmonster> ok
[06:24] <bluffer_> i got into a garbled gnome desktop for the first time hope fully i should be able to get it back to shape macking around with xorg.conf
[06:24] <connor> I can't get the wireless card to work. It's connected, and the drivers are there. What should I do?
[06:24] <nugenoa> ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?
[06:25] <I3ooI3oo_werking> after i copy off the data on the drive taht i will be keeping i will be wanting to trash the drive and setup a fsck and move the swap the the second drive.  can you point me to what i should read to have a grasp on what i want to do
[06:25] <N3WB> ikonia - ok whats your way then?
[06:25] <ikonia_> N3WB use the ubuntu nvidia packages
[06:25] <N3WB> For nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS Drivers
[06:25] <N3WB> ........
[06:25] <ikonia_> N3WB ahhh sorry
[06:25] <tecta> automatix is down again today?
[06:25] <ikonia_> N3WB yes, yes try the nvidia ones
[06:25] <Seveas> !automatix | tecta
[06:25] <ubotu> tecta: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:25] <ikonia_> tecta don't know - we don't support it in here
[06:25] <N3WB> how do i find them then? its on a USB Stick
[06:25] <N3WB> I could offcourse put it on a CD if thats easyer
[06:26] <nugenoa> How do you disable this? Synaptics DeviceOff called
 how do i find them then? its on a USB Stick
[06:26] <ikonia_> oops
[06:26] <ikonia_> sorry
[06:26] <ikonia_> N3WB mount the usb stick
[06:26] <tecta> !WorksForMe
[06:26] <slaists> hi all
[06:26] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:26] <N3WB> How? Im stupid :P
[06:26] <N3WB> First time with Ubuntu :|
[06:26] <julianito> salut a tous
[06:26] <connor> I can't get the wireless card to work. It's connected, and the drivers are there. What should I do?
[06:26] <ikonia_> N3WB ok - before messing with drivers, I "suggest" you take a quick glance over the forums and wiki - or the docs on ubuntu.com just to get a feel for how things work
[06:26] <Seveas> !fr | julianito
[06:26] <ubotu> julianito: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:27] <julianito> thanks
[06:27] <snaidis> Hey I here
[06:27] <snaidis> Did you mean this name?
[06:27] <snaidis> DWL-G510
[06:27] <snaidis> ?
[06:27] <dell190> can i edit the windows registry with Ubuntu????
[06:27] <beg1689> ok i need help; i have a partition (lets say /dev/hda2) and i want it to be the home directory for ubuntu (on /dev/hda1) and i currently have the home folder for my only current user copied over to /dev/hda2. so my question is how can i make /dev/hda2 my home directory (current home directory is /home on /dev/hda1)
[06:27] <ikonia_> don't think so
[06:28] <Seveas> beg1689, add it to /etc/fstab
[06:28] <snaidis> ?
[06:28] <beg1689> ok ill take a look at that
[06:28] <snaidis> Di yiu mean the name: DWL-G510?
[06:28] <dell190> how can i edit the windows registry with Ubuntu????
[06:28] <zelrikriando> I crashed my alsa mixer Oo
[06:28] <ikonia_> dell190 you can't
[06:28] <connor> I can't get the wireless card to work. It's connected, and the drivers are there. What should I do?
[06:28] <Seveas> dell190, you cannot
[06:28] <snaidis> of the wireless card?
[06:29] <SGorillaaaa> no-one's answering in the ubuntu+1 channel so ill ask here. can i install opera on feisty fawn with the edgy version. if not how?
[06:29] <snaidis> ?
[06:29] <zelrikriando> grr that s ridiculous
[06:29] <Seveas> SGorillaaaa, you could try - if it doesn'twork you can remove it :)
[06:29] <SGorillaaaa> ok ill try
[06:29] <Rooy> snaidis: the best bet is see the output of lspci -nn and use that number, not the name of the card
[06:29] <avno> Snaidis:yes!
[06:30] <N3WB> The USB is Bus 6 Device 003, how do i mouth it?
[06:30] <Pir8> Hello folks
[06:30] <B|nTaRa> !ntfs
[06:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:30] <zelrikriando> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:30] <I3ooI3oo_werking> never be afraid to break it remember somebody else probaly already did once.
[06:30] <totall_6_7> Sorry folks about earler It was a very bad error on a script that i was attempting to make, and i didnt even know it was doing it till i looked at my channel list and saw red all over the place (red being when my nick is used in a room/pm) Again Sorry about the flood
[06:30] <snaidis> use it for what?>
[06:31] <Pir8> I've followed about three to four different how-to's on installing ATi driver, and have been successful in installing the ATI drivers. However; my luck with Beryl has not been so straight forward.
[06:31] <avno> snaidis: to check the name of the chipset, through internet!
[06:31] <snaidis> ah ok
[06:31] <snaidis> so I'll type it on ubuntu and then look for it on xp?
[06:32] <dell190> how can i edit the windows registry with Ubuntu????
[06:32] <I3ooI3oo_werking> DELL You can't
[06:32] <PriceChild> dell190, with great difficulty afaik
[06:32] <avno> XP? Your problems is under ubuntu, not XP!!!
[06:32] <Pir8> Can anyone point me to a known-to-work how-to on getting Beryl setup with ATI Radeon 9600XT ?
[06:32] <SGorillaaaa> haha it worked
[06:32] <avno> You mean, you are on XP NOW!
[06:32] <PriceChild> Pir8, > #ubuntu-effects
[06:32] <snaidis> I know but I cant find it on the internet with ubuntu
[06:32] <N3WB> The USB is Bus 6 Device 003, how do i mouth it?
[06:32] <avno> I see...
[06:32] <Pir8> PriceChild,  thank you.
[06:33] <N3WB> How do i mount a USB Stick which is on Bus 6 Device 003?
[06:33] <snaidis> Yes i'm on xp now
[06:33] <beg1689> beryl still gives me problems
[06:33] <avno> Yes, the name of the chipset is the same for both, Ubuntu or XP!
[06:33] <zelrikriando> help me plz
[06:33] <zelrikriando> before I break everything
[06:33] <snaidis> OK
[06:33] <avno> Find the name of the chipset, then search for a driver for it!
[06:33] <snaidis> so on the kernel i'll write lspci -nn
[06:33] <snaidis> *on the terminal
[06:34] <avno> First type just "lspci"!
[06:34] <N3WB> How do i mount a USB Stick which is on Bus 6 Device 003?
[06:34] <snaidis> ok
[06:34] <charl_ie> N3WB: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[06:34] <avno> Then write down the first column of the output!
[06:34] <zelrikriando> PLzzzzz help
[06:34] <avno> Something like: xx:xx.x
[06:35] <avno> No, sorry!
[06:35] <avno> Something like XX:XX.X
[06:35] <frtmonster> how can i know which services or probes i don't need in ubuntu so it would make my celeron laptop a bit faster
[06:35] <snaidis> Where?
[06:35] <zelrikriando> help me Oo
[06:35] <N3WB> chal ie: allready mounted (HDD0)
[06:36] <avno> My card's first column reads "02:02.0"!
[06:36] <zelrikriando> modprobe -> Warning: module config file does not exist
[06:36] <Rooy> snaidis: type lspci -nn and you have both the name and the numbers
[06:36] <snaidis> OK so?
[06:36] <avno> Left on the konsole!
[06:36] <snaidis> where should i write it?
[06:36] <B|nTaRa> !mount
[06:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:36] <avno> Oh, on a paper or just remember it!!!
[06:36] <avno> :-)
[06:36] <snaidis> and?
[06:36] <hflappy> any possible way to globally set proxy settings such as user/pass for all terminal users
[06:36] <snaidis> then to google on XP?
[06:36] <Rooy> snaidis: search google for people using the same chip
[06:36] <avno> Then issue "lspci -nn".
[06:36] <B|nTaRa> !fstab
[06:36] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:37] <B|nTaRa> !DiskMounter
[06:37] <snaidis> OK thanks ill do it
[06:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:37] <N3WB> !fstab
[06:37] <frtmonster> oh i found it
[06:37] <zelrikriando> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:37] <avno> The "lspci" command shows the name of the chipset, also!
[06:37] <avno> How stupid of me!!!
[06:38] <zelrikriando> cat: /proc/asound/{version,cards,devices,hwdep,pcm,seq/clients}:  no file or directory of this type
[06:38] <fredcardena1> hola?
[06:38] <Rooy> avno but it lack manufacturer and model number
[06:38] <zelrikriando> can somebody help me plz?
[06:39] <avno> Rooy:what do you mean...?
[06:39] <Rooy> avno: i mean these number  [1814:0302] 
[06:39] <charl_ie> N3WB: try looking for it under /media
[06:39] <_wraith_> Ok, I tried booting from live cd but I can not find the new HD to run fsck, anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[06:39] <rbil> zelrikriando: things between { } are options. choose one in that commandline
[06:40] <avno> Rooy: Yes?
[06:40] <B|nTaRa> !fuse
[06:40] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:40] <Rooy> avno: 1814 is RaLink, 0302 is the rt2561 chip
[06:40] <fredcardena1> Y_Y
[06:40] <zelrikriando> rbil I runned ./aadebug
[06:40] <avno> Rooy: IS IT????
[06:40] <Rooy> avno: 05:06.0 is where the card is plugged in, i assume
[06:40] <zelrikriando> that s the output error messages
[06:40] <Rooy> avno: i bet yours is also 1814:xxxx
[06:41] <verwilst> hi!
[06:41] <avno> Rooy: 1814:0401
[06:41] <nugenoa> In my xorg log I see "Synaptics DeviceOff called"  How do I stop this?
[06:41] <avno> What 0401 stands for?
[06:41] <Rooy> avno: :)
[06:41] <verwilst> Could you guys please check this out: http://pastie.caboo.se/46881
[06:41] <verwilst> i'm using noninteractive
[06:42] <verwilst> but still it nags about the file
[06:42] <verwilst> any ideas?
[06:42] <verwilst> is this an apt bug or something?
[06:42] <Rooy> avno: your chipset on that card, guess smt like rt73
[06:42] <zelrikriando> T_T
[06:42] <N3WB> !gkedit
[06:42] <avno> There is no rt73 in serialmonkey!!!
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gkedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <fredcardena1> hola alfuien que me ayude con el ubuntu Y_Y
[06:43] <N3WB> How to mount "/dev/sdb1" as "/media/usb"
[06:43] <_wraith_> I am trying to add an additional HD however the device does not show up in partition manager, anyonoe have any ideas?
[06:43] <sethk> N3WB, depends on the file system.  this works with mine:   mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive
[06:43] <Rooy> N3WB: /media is owned by root, so you have to sudo
[06:44] <Rooy> N3WB: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[06:44] <sethk> N3WB, the /media/whatever has to exist, so check for it with ls
[06:44] <B|nTaRa> !mountntfs
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <nugenoa> In my xorg log I see "Synaptics DeviceOff called"  How do I stop this?
[06:44] <Rooy> !ntfs
[06:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:44] <sethk> B|nTaRa, mount -t ntfs, is part of your answer
[06:44] <zelrikriando> I cant figure out how to make that damn sound card to work T_T
[06:44] <B|nTaRa> sethk, im trying to mount sata ntfs
[06:45] <zelrikriando> and I crashed alsamixer
[06:45] <B|nTaRa> !ntfs-3g
[06:45] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:45] <B|nTaRa> !fuse
[06:45] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:45] <sethk> B|nTaRa, you need -t ntfs, probably -ro, but I'd need to know the device to give you the complete command
[06:46] <zelrikriando> HELP ME PLZ
[06:46] <N3WB> sethk : i made a dir with sudo mkdir there
[06:46] <N3WB> now what?
[06:46] <hector> ubuntu looks a little "blured" in my PC, I installed the NVIDIA drivers but still looks like that
[06:46] <hector> any suggestions?
[06:46] <B|nTaRa> sethk, i already mounted my sata but
[06:46] <B|nTaRa> /dev/sda5 /media/sda5 ntfs-fuse rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:46] <B|nTaRa> i see no data in there
[06:46] <psst> hector: is it an LCD screen?
[06:46] <sethk> N3WB, the stick is formatted on a windows box, or came preformatted?
[06:46] <_wraith_> Seveas, still around?
[06:47] <hector> psst: yes
[06:47] <sethk> B|nTaRa, did you try:  sudo ls /media/sda5?
[06:47] <Seveas> _wraith_, -EBUSY
[06:47] <_wraith_> k
[06:47] <sethk> B|nTaRa, without using uid= and gid=, only root can see the mounted drive
[06:47] <Rooy> B|nTaRa: i mount mine as ntfs-3g, not ntfs-fuse (you're using ntfs-3g too?)
[06:47] <zelrikriando> ok l ll be back
[06:47] <yettenet> Could you tell me how I can change reading/writing policies of a file?
[06:47] <hector> psst: is a laptop screen
[06:47] <B|nTaRa> Rooy, nope
[06:47] <sethk> yettenet, chmod
[06:47] <yettenet> I'll take a look at it :)
[06:47] <sethk> yettenet, chmod --help, or man chmod will show you
[06:48] <N3WB> its W95 FAT16 (LBA) if that says something.
[06:48] <CapriCoRN^80> can i download ltsp 5 using aptitude on ubuntu?
[06:48] <psst> hector: that figures - LCD screens (incl. laptops) have a 'native' resolution
[06:48] <verwilst> anyone?
[06:48] <yettenet> Thanks :)
[06:48] <psst> hector: and you are running at a different resolution
[06:48] <B|nTaRa> Rooy, i just wanna read
[06:48] <concept10> What program controls launching of URLs?  Is this sensible-browser?
[06:49] <Seveas> CapriCoRN^80, you may want to look at the edubuntu website for instructions
[06:49] <SGorillaaaa> how can i install flash player for opera? it doesn't seem to work.
[06:49] <psst> hector: do you know the native resolution of your laptop display? (would be in the hardware specs)
[06:49] <hector> psst: well, the resolution is 1280 x 800, and that's the resolution I'm using
[06:49] <xpbazsi> hi
[06:49] <Rooy> concept10: it's selected in System --> preference --> preferred apps
[06:49] <psst> hector: what is your laptop?
[06:49] <_wraith_> can anyone tell me how to locate a new HD and format it via the ubuntu live cd?
[06:50] <hector> is an HP Pavilon dv2000
[06:50] <xpbazsi> segtsen mr vki
[06:50] <xpbazsi> nem mxika  beryl
[06:50] <N3WB> How to mounth a USB Stick, its formated W95 FAT16 (LBA) and dir media/usb allready exist
[06:50] <hector> psst: is an HP Pavilon dv2000
[06:50] <cusco> _wraith_: use gparted
[06:50] <concept10> Rooy, that doesn't work
[06:50] <sethk> _wraith_, you use mkfs to format it, but first you have to partition it
[06:51] <sethk> _wraith_, well, you don't always _have_ to, but you probably want to.
[06:51] <kraut> i'd like to crypt my /home and /root with dm-crypt, is there any good howto wich describes this?
[06:51] <nugenoa> In my xorg log I see "Synaptics DeviceOff called"  How do I stop this?
[06:51] <_wraith_> cusco: the new HD does not show up in gparted
[06:51] <_wraith_> just the old one
[06:51] <sethk> n3wb   mount -t msdos /dev/whatever /media/whatever
[06:51] <ikonia_> sethk thats unwise
[06:51] <sethk> ikonia, no, it isn't
[06:51] <ikonia_> sethk I mean the cypt thing
[06:51] <hector> psst: i checked my resolution and it gives me that is 1024 x 768, can I change that?
[06:51] <cusco> _wraith_: use dmesg to check the /dev/ice
[06:52] <sethk> ikonia, I didn't say anything about cypt, are you sure you meant me?
[06:52] <ikonia_> sethk nope - not certain
[06:52] <psst> hector: then I don't know why it's blurry -sorry
[06:52] <retarded_compute> Starting up...
[06:52] <retarded_compute> Uncompressing Linux...Ok, booting the kernal.
[06:52] <retarded_compute> [      42.887599]  intel_rng: FWH not detected
[06:52] <retarded_compute> [      43.310897]  Kernal panic - not syncing: Unable to mount root fs on unknown - block (0,0)
[06:52] <retarded_compute> [      43.310940] 
[06:52] <_wraith_> ikonia_ i tried doing what you said however I am unable to find the new hd, how do I locate it to run that fsck command?
[06:52] <sethk> hector, dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:52] <_JP> how do i make "dpkg -i <somepackage>.deb" to install all the dependencies?
[06:52] <retarded_compute> can anyone tell me what this means
[06:52] <psst> oh  - just saw your last post, hector
[06:52] <ikonia_> _wraith_ its not the new hd - you want the ubuntu file systems
[06:52] <psst> hector: System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[06:53] <_wraith_> ikonia_ I am uncertain what you mean?
[06:53] <sethk> retarded_compute, either the root= configuration on the kernel command line is wrong, or the driver for the hard drive hardware is missing from the kernel
[06:53] <sethk> retarded_compute, or both  :)
[06:53] <hector> psst: it doesn't give the option for 1280 x 800
[06:53] <ikonia_> _wraith_ your error was not with the new hard disk - but with your existing ubuntu file systems
[06:53] <N3WB> there, thanks :D
[06:54] <_wraith_> ikonia_ i think I see what you mean, but before we continue: the original hd has ubuntu installed and was fine, the new HD is an old HD which had windows xp on it
[06:54] <psst> hector: ah - then you may not have the right video driver for your card
[06:54] <retarded_compute> I got this message after chosing the OS from the boot menu after restarting the computer when installing updates finished.
[06:54] <runge> is there a way to have the notifier thing on more then one panel?
[06:54] <hector> psst: ok, I fix it already
[06:54] <sethk> retarded_compute, sounds like you overwrote either the kernel or kernel related configuration
[06:54] <psst> hector: how?
[06:54] <hector> psst: thanks anyway :)
[06:54] <ikonia_> the error of consistant file systems is complaining about your boot process - which is the existing ubuntu disk - fix that
[06:54] <N3WB> now annother question
[06:55] <ikonia_> _wraith_ that was for you
[06:55] <N3WB> how to run NVIDIA-Linux-x86 64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run ?
[06:55] <retarded_compute> I was mistakenly using root on the computer and transfered my docs onto another user account
[06:55] <hector> psst: I used the control panel of the NVIDIA card and change the resoution in there
[06:55] <_wraith_> ikonia_ ok so just do that fsck -t ext3 -n /dev/hda ?
[06:55] <sethk> N3WB, chmod +x NVIDIA.........whatever, then ./NVIDIA.........
[06:55] <psst> hector: you have an NVidia control panel in Ubuntu?
[06:55] <retarded_compute> Actually, I just copied them from the superuser to another user
[06:55] <Dr_willis> a sudo may be needed also. :)
[06:55] <ikonia_> _wraith_ /dev/hda1(2,3,4)etc
[06:55] <sethk> _wraith_, /dev/hda is a disk, fsck is used with a partition, not a disk
[06:55] <psst> hector: wow!
[06:55] <dreamscp> is there a problem with Edgy apt sources?  I'm getting a lot of dependency failures and not part of installable package errors (ruby, mono)
[06:56] <hector> psst: yeah, I compiled the drivers using the linux kernel source
[06:56] <_wraith_> ikonia_ which one should I do i have hda1-4
[06:56] <hector> psst: is NVIDIA X Server Settings
[06:57] <N3WB> what is runlevel1 and runlevel3?
[06:57] <zipper_> I've followed the guide + troubleshooting at the wiki, but i'm still having trouble with my ati card. fglrxinfo still tells me it's using MESA?! Anyone got the slightest idea of whats wrong?
[06:57] <psst> hector: cool - that rocks
[06:57] <ikonia_> _wraith_ the ones with you ubuntu file systems on
[06:57] <_wraith_> ikonia hda1 is / hda2 is swap hda3 is home and hda4 is a media partition
[06:58] <dreamscp> N3WB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[06:58] <ikonia_> _wraith_ everything other than swap
[06:58] <Luke> I'm trying to install grub on my mbr but when I run grub-install, i get this error: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:58] <_wraith_> ikonia_ ok, then what about the business of getting the additional HD up & working?
[06:58] <ikonia_> _wraith_ get ubuntu booting first
[06:59] <h1st0> !grub > Luke
[06:59] <nixnoob_> zipper did you check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make sure that everywhere it says mesa you changed it to fglrx?
[06:59] <connor> I can't get my wireless card to work. The driver works and the computer sees it. What shoul I do next?
[06:59] <_wraith_> ikonia_ one thing I should mention, ubuntu boots when the additional HD is unplugged, it only fails to boot when I have it plugged in
[06:59] <hector> I'm using ubuntu 64bit, when I use the ndiswrapper utility for intalling the drivers of my wireless card it doesn't work
[06:59] <retarded_compute> Sethk, I am now using the Windows boot so that I can get online.  I couldn't log on and had to resort to shutting down via the restart button on my console.  Any ideas what I should do next?
[06:59] <nixnoob_> conner specifically what is the problem?
[06:59] <ikonia_> _wraith_ looks like you're devices are getting messed up with you plug in the second disk then
[06:59] <hector> It says that the drivers are invalid
[07:00] <_wraith_> ikonia, yes thats what it seems like to me, any suggestions?
[07:00] <nixnoob_> hector ndiswrapper doesnt work on all drivers..
[07:00] <Luke> h1st0: if you notice, those pages both assume that grub-install doesnt fail.
[07:00] <ikonia_> _wraith_ check where you plugging it in (master/slave) try it on the second ide channel
[07:00] <_wraith_> i would simply like to format the 2nd HD to ext3 and be able to use it
[07:00] <rbil> _wraith_ are these IDE drives?
[07:00] <sethk> retarded_compute, the most likely thing is that your initramfs image file is corrupted, but without more information I'm just shooting in the dark.
[07:00] <_wraith_> rbil yes
[07:01] <h1st0> Luke: what happened to your default grub install?
[07:01] <hector> the ndiswrapper seems to work with the 32bit version of Ubuntu but in 64bit it doesn't
[07:01] <rbil> _wraith_: do you have them jumpered correctly?
[07:01] <sethk> retarded_compute, I don't know what disk hardware you have, what file system type, etc., etc.
[07:01] <connor> I can't get it to connect. The password is correct. The device is enabled. The drivers are installed. I don't know what to do to fix it.
[07:01] <retarded_compute> does that mean damage to the hardware or the software?
[07:01] <nixnoob_> hector 64 bits you are asking for trouble with drivers....
[07:01] <sethk> hector, things working in 32 bit, but not in 64 bit, is not an uncommon situation
[07:01] <_wraith_> rbil I believe so, but this is my first time doing it so there may be a slight error somewhere
[07:01] <sethk> retarded_compute, software, nothing wrong with the hardware
[07:01] <Luke> h1st0: i have a macbook so grub didn
[07:01] <rbil> _wraith_: both on IDE1?
[07:01] <sethk> retarded_compute, nothing even seriously wrong with the software
[07:01] <nixnoob_> conner type iwconfig in console and tell me if it has the name of your accesspoint
[07:02] <Luke> h1st0: used to work on here. i had lilo
[07:02] <cute_bettong> i have a dell dimension c521 with awesome surround sound on it but it will not use the microphone not on the back plug or on the jak on the front of the case
[07:02] <Luke> h1st0: i'd rather use grub though
[07:02] <sethk> retarded_compute, could be as simple as changing one line in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[07:02] <cute_bettong> can someone tell me how to rectify this issue?
[07:02] <retarded_compute> My full name is retarded_computer_user, just to clear any misunderstanding.
[07:02] <cute_bettong> no matter what i do it does not work.....and edgy is so nice ^_^
[07:02] <retarded_compute> That's good news
[07:02] <_wraith_> rbil unsure.. I have a cable with two slots for HD's on it, i put the original one on the end and the other on the 2nd slot
[07:02] <_wraith_> ?
[07:02] <hector> can I install a 32bit version of ndiswrapper in my 64bit Ubuntu so that I can use the drivers?
[07:03] <nixnoob_> ndiswrapper has NEVER worked for any of my drivers...
[07:03] <zipper_> I've followed the guide + troubleshooting at the wiki, but i'm still having trouble with my ati card. fglrxinfo still tells me it's using MESA?! Anyone got the slightest idea of whats wrong?
[07:03] <kyuuketsuki> hector, there what wireless card are you using>?
[07:03] <rbil> _wraith_: I suggest u look at the switch on the back of each drive. keep your original one as Master and make the second one Slave
[07:03] <connor> it says " Access Point: 00:16:B6:24:FE:CA"
[07:03] <_wraith_> switch?
[07:03] <sethk> _wraith_, if it's an eide cable, make sure both drivers are jumpered for CS (cable select)
[07:03] <_wraith_> i didn't see any switches
[07:03] <hector> the wireless card is broadcom
[07:03] <nixnoob_> connor thats your problem, whats the devices name wlan0?
[07:03] <kyuuketsuki> oh
[07:03] <cute_bettong> can someone tell me how to fix my issue?
[07:03] <Skuller> good mornin....is there a chance that my webcam will be compatible with feisty considering it is not with edgy?
[07:03] <sethk> _wraith_, an eide cable has onw black connector, one blue, and one grey
[07:03] <connor> no it's eth1
[07:03] <cute_bettong> it's driveing me nuts lol
[07:03] <kyuuketsuki> there is a REALLY REALLY good how to on the ubuntu forums for that
[07:03] <rbil> _wraith_: pins with jumper
[07:03] <sethk> _wraith_, doesn't apply to SATA
[07:03] <_wraith_> eide!
[07:03] <retarded_compute> But i may never be able to get to Ubuntu because there was that dialogue that I showed you and nothing that could be typed.  So I hit the restart button.  Was theat the right thing to do or was there a better option from that point?
[07:04] <kyuuketsuki> i'll go get the link for you connor
[07:04] <_wraith_> it is eide then
[07:04] <nixnoob_> connor eth1 is not wireless... eth is for ethernet cards
[07:04] <_wraith_> it has blue one going to mobo
[07:04] <_wraith_> and then a black & gray
[07:04] <connor> so what should I do?
[07:04] <hector> i have the fwcutter to take the firmware out of the .sys file but ndiswrapper doesn't work
[07:04] <kyuuketsuki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[07:04] <nixnoob_> connor is eth0 your regular NIC?
[07:04] <connor> yes
[07:04] <nixnoob_> connor do u kno the essid of your access point?
[07:04] <kyuuketsuki> thats a good broadcom wireless router howto
[07:04] <rbil> _wraith_ on the top of each drive should be a diagram that tells u what pins need to be bridged to have master/slave
[07:04] <connor> yes
[07:05] <jadacyrus> join #archlinux
[07:05] <_wraith_> rbil so they need to be cable select if it is eide?
[07:05] <sethk> _wraith_, that sounds correct.  I'll double check on one of my boxes
[07:05] <kyuuketsuki> hec?
[07:05] <nixnoob_> type sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <your access point here>
[07:05] <sethk> _wraith_, yes.
[07:05] <rbil> _wraith_ better to setup as master/slave imho
[07:05] <Luke> i have a /dev/sda3 partition with ubuntu. device.map points hd0 to sda but in the grub prompt, > root (hd0,2) says there is no such partition. Any suggestions?
[07:05] <nixnoob_> connor, then check if it has the name in there by typing iwconfig
[07:05] <Skuller> or should it be ifconfig?
[07:05] <_wraith_> ok, one hd is a maxtor with no diagram of jumpers and the other one does have a diagram which is set to slave
[07:05] <_wraith_> meaning i took a little piece out
[07:06] <sethk> rbil, no, that is a common misconception.  it will NOT work in certain cases.
[07:06] <I3ooI3oo_werking> master/slave is best
[07:06] <sethk> I3ooI3oo_werking, NO
[07:06] <rbil> sethk: well I have yet to have a problem with it not working and I've hooked up hundreds of hard drives
[07:06] <sethk> I3ooI3oo_werking, master/slave will NOT work correctly with many drives and EIDE hardware
[07:06] <nicola> joikj
[07:06] <bluffer_> ardchoille so its running full monty with 44 mb allocated ram thanks a lot again for your advices yesterday http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9581/fullmontyss1.png
[07:06] <nicola> ciao a tutti
[07:06] <Skuller> good mornin....is there a chance that my webcam will be compatible with feisty considering it is not with edgy?
[07:06] <nicola> c' qualcuno?
[07:06] <cute_bettong> so can anyone help me....i have a dell dimension c521 with surround sound built in the back a mic and head phone jack in the front ......all sound seems to work but for the microphone
[07:07] <sethk> rbil, don't care about that, I only care about the fact that you absolutely CAN create a problem that way, and you absolutely CANNOT create a problem hooking things up correctly as designated by the manufacturer
[07:07] <nicola> italiani?
[07:07] <_wraith_> ok so wait, do i do cable select or master/slave?
[07:07] <I3ooI3oo_werking> so since the CS/MA/SL is bios controlled you are telling me that if i select which drive i want master and which i want slave and do to cabling i have to set them master/slave that it is wrong to do
[07:07] <nugenoa> In my xorg log I see "Synaptics DeviceOff called"  How do I stop this?
[07:07] <sethk> _wraith_, cable select is correct for EIDE hardware.
[07:07] <rbil> _wraith_: sethk seems so sure, I'll bow out to him.
[07:07] <h1st0> _wraith_: don't use cable select
[07:07] <nixnoob_> connor any luck?
[07:07] <sethk> I3ooI3oo_werking, yes
[07:07] <_wraith_> ok, now one thing, the maxtor which is my original drive does not have a diagram
[07:08] <_wraith_> how do i tell where to put the little thing to jump it?
[07:08] <sethk> I3ooI3oo_werking, master/slave almost always works, but I've fixed two problems in the last month by switching to cable select
[07:08] <h1st0> sethk: why have someone use cs when they can just specify master/slave
[07:08] <Uranboy> Hello! Can someone help me? I installed kubuntu 6.10 to ASUS A6M notebook ( brand new), but after nvidia installation the GUI can't run. I followed the tutorials, and this card works under suse 10.2 + KDE + official driver.
[07:08] <h1st0> sethk: I've never had a problem with it.
[07:08] <sethk> h1st0, because there are situations where it doesn't work.
[07:08] <medfly> whats /dev/fb0?
[07:08] <h1st0> Uranboy: which tutuorial were you following
[07:08] <h1st0> medfly: frame buffer?
[07:09] <_wraith_> ok one more question too: which part of the cable does the master go on?
[07:09] <_wraith_> does it go on the end or the one in the middle?
[07:09] <sethk> h1st0, I've only seen it, admitedly, in two out of about 100 machines, but so what?  if it happens, just use cs and avoid worrying about it.
[07:09] <sethk> _wraith_, the end cable is master, the middle, grey, is slave.
[07:09] <Skuller> _wraith_: i dont think it matters
[07:09] <_wraith_> ok
[07:09] <h1st0> sethk: i dunno just when I was hw teching i used to have more problems with cs than it was worth.
[07:09] <rbil> _wraith_ if you're using master/slave settings, doesn't matter, if cable select put master at end and slave in middle
[07:09] <Uranboy> h1st0: the nvidias's and then the boys is the kubuntu room. They cannot helpme, and send me there.
[07:09] <B|nTaRa> i think i need help
[07:09] <nugenoa> Anyone?
[07:10] <B|nTaRa> i can mount my sata/hdd
[07:10] <B|nTaRa> but
[07:10] <B|nTaRa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10370/
[07:10] <ctrl_x>  how to open .nfo file in ubuntu 6.06
[07:10] <I3ooI3oo_werking> sorry sethk I have been workijng with computerd for over 25 years and you can't convince me that CS is the only way.. Not based on venders hardware you could have a problem if so i don't ever use that vender since they can't conform to standards
[07:10] <h1st0> Uranboy: What did you download the driver from nvidia's site?
[07:10] <sethk> h1st0, I go with what the drive manufacturers tell me, absent a good reason to do otherwise.
[07:10] <B|nTaRa> i see no data at all
[07:10] <_wraith_> so now the thing is to power down and make sure it is jumpered properly
[07:10] <LaughingSam> Hi folks. I'm running vdr (Video Disk Recorder) on my ubuntu-bo in console mode. VDR uses tty1. I've disabled getty on tty1 from /etc/event.d/tty1, but I can't access tty with VDR unless I run it as root. How do I give a specific user access to tty1 (or ttyN, for that matter)?
[07:10] <sethk> I3ooI3oo_werking, you don't understand what I'm saying.  If you use master and slave, you must use an IDE, not an EIDE cable
[07:10] <sethk> I3ooI3oo_werking, it's important that the cabling match the configuration.
[07:10] <Roachclit> would someone mind helping me with a screen resolution issue?
[07:10] <rbil> _wraith_ YES and pull power plug from computer anytime you dig into it
[07:10] <B|nTaRa> !resolution
[07:11] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:11] <Uranboy> h1st0: 3 kind. Now finished the 5. reinstall after tryings.
[07:11] <_wraith_> rbil will do!
[07:11] <ctrl_x> and how to handle winrar and winzip file???
[07:11] <_wraith_> thanks guys
[07:11] <_wraith_> hopefully i will get it sorted
[07:11] <sethk> Roachclit, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:11] <cute_bettong> so can anyone help me with my issue?
[07:11] <h1st0> Uranboy: 3 kind?
[07:11] <rbil> bye bye
[07:11] <cute_bettong> i could really use this microphone for work lol
[07:11] <Uranboy> h1st0: Yes, from newest to oldest
[07:11] <h1st0> Uranboy: well did you ever uninstall the nvidia drivers after any of your attempts?  There is a easier way to install nvidia drivers
[07:11] <Luke> i have a /dev/sda3 partition with ubuntu. device.map points hd0 to sda but in the grub prompt, > root (hd0,2) says there is no such partition. Any suggestions?
[07:11] <Skuller> hey guys...just a tinsy question...is there a chance of my webcam workin on feisty considering it doesnt on edgy?
[07:11] <sethk> cute_bettong, buy a cheap audio card ($15 will get you one) and turn off the built in audio
[07:11] <Yggdrasil_> can somone help me to cron a job, ~/job.sh
[07:12] <Uranboy> h1st0: the system collapsed after nvidia-install
[07:12] <h1st0> Uranboy: try ./NVIDIA-whatever --uninstall
[07:12] <cute_bettong> sethk i don't have the money for a low profile sound card
[07:12] <h1st0> Uranboy: replace whatever with tab
[07:12] <cables> Is there any way to get Ubuntu to work with my Dell laptop's lid switch? It works in Kubuntu, but not Ubuntu.
[07:12] <sethk> Skuller, the presence or absense of a kernel driver determines whether it works.  I'd check the latest kernel docs.
[07:12] <h1st0> Uranboy: We are going the easier route.
[07:12] <cute_bettong> sethk do you have any to suggest? that are really good and will work inside the C521
[07:13] <sethk> cute_bettong, I don't have info specific to the c521, but I have no reason to think it's different from any other dell box.
[07:13] <h1st0> Uranboy: you with me so far?
[07:13] <Uranboy> h1st0: OK. Now I have a new default generic system. What shall I do?
[07:13] <cute_bettong> sethk is there any information i can give to you that might help you to help me?
[07:13] <h1st0> Uranboy: okay do you have universe restricted and multiverse repos enabled?
[07:14] <Skuller> sethk: ohh....and i guess theres a new kernel in feisty right?
[07:14] <nokedli17> pls help me
[07:14] <nokedli17> the beryl istn started
[07:14] <h1st0> Uranboy: well try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[07:14] <Uranboy> h1st0: I'm beginner. Where can I enable this?
[07:14] <sethk> Skuller, newer.  you can of course use a newer kernel with an older release, but we don't even know if that's going to help you.
[07:14] <nokedli17> but i installed successfully
[07:14] <h1st0> Uranboy: do you just have text terminal?
[07:14] <kyuuketsuki> having problems with beryl?
[07:14] <Stormx2> Could someone please suggest a brute-force password cracker (with http post support)? Thanks.
[07:14] <h1st0> kyuuketsuki: /j #ubuntu-effects
[07:14] <sethk> cute_bettong, check on what sound cards are available and cheap, then ask folks here if they've successfully used the microphone with it.
[07:15] <Uranboy> h1st0:No, I've got GUI, but without nvidia support
[07:15] <Skuller> sethk: ok....thats really getting my hopes up...i'll just wait for the release n try it out n see....thanks
[07:15] <cute_bettong> sethk ok so there is no way in heck to get the onbord sound to work?
[07:15] <kyuuketsuki> are you sure you have selected the beryl window manager selected?
[07:15] <h1st0> Uranboy: but its KDE right?
[07:15] <Luke> Stormx2: you may have more luck in a cracking channel. this is for ubuntu support
[07:15] <jdr_> Is there an alternative for subclipse which does work on Edgy?
[07:15] <kyuuketsuki> cute, what is wrong with your sound?
[07:15] <I3ooI3oo_werking> sethk I can concide that, Yes if you get a cable mising a strand ie with a section missing you need to make sure the master is at the end of the cable
[07:15] <h1st0> Uranboy: go to settings and look for Software Sources
[07:15] <kyuuketsuki> it just isnt working?
[07:15] <h1st0> Uranboy: it should be where Synaptic is.
[07:16] <cute_bettong> kyuuketsuki: the sound works beutifull but for the microphone
[07:16] <Stormx2> Luke: It would be an ubuntu app ;) I've asked for suggestions for other packages, e.g. an nice audio production studio in the past.
[07:16] <sethk> I3ooI3oo_werking, indeed.  :)
[07:16] <kyuuketsuki> oh
[07:16] <I3ooI3oo_werking> the nerve
[07:16] <h1st0> Uranboy: just checkbox restricted universe and multiverse
[07:16] <cute_bettong> kyuuketsuki: it's weard becasue everything sounds so pritty in the new edgy but for the darn microphone....deader than a door nail
[07:16] <Luke> Stormx2: it would be a linux app... not specific to ubuntu
[07:16] <sethk> i3ooi3oo, me too, I'm debugging a device driver
[07:17] <Uranboy> h1st0: It has adept
[07:17] <Stormx2> Luke: Just like the audio apps suggested to me :)
[07:17] <Luke> Stormx2: i'm just saying you may have better luck elsewhere since people in here are jerks about questions like that
[07:17] <h1st0> Uranboy: well is there a place to manage the repoisitories or software sources.  I'm not to familiar with kubuntu's set up.
[07:17] <rausb0> sethk: usb devices (assuming the webcam is one) do not always need a kernel driver. there are userspace drivers which access usb devices through usbfs.
[07:17] <Luke> i have a /dev/sda3 partition with ubuntu. device.map points hd0 to sda but in the grub prompt, > root (hd0,2) says there is no such partition. Any suggestions?
[07:17] <n-iCe> someone have seen "THEVAULT" and JAVAJAKE?
[07:17] <Stormx2> Luke: i don't see why. Theres nothing inherently illegal/immoral. I'm doing a friend a favour by checking his site out for holes...
[07:17] <h1st0> Uranboy: well lets see if maybe you enabled them doing something else
[07:18] <cute_bettong> *kicks the liveing snot outta his sound card*
[07:18] <Luke> Stormx2: i agree but i've even been yelled at for asking about audio apps because its "something I should google"
[07:18] <h1st0> Uranboy: open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[07:18] <Luke> haha
[07:18] <sethk> rausb0, there are, at times, drivers like that, such as USB networking or USB mass storage.  I haven't seen it for webcam, though, have you?
[07:18] <Stormx2> Luke; Fair enough.
[07:18] <connor_> My wireless card is listed as eth1, which is ethernet, right? How do I tell it that it is a wireless card?
[07:19] <Luke> Stormx2: i dont think your wrong for asking. i think people in here are mean =D
[07:19] <nokedli17> pls help me
[07:19] <Heroin> Luke no one here is mean.. its just that a lot of people here dont wanne read a FAQ or README
[07:19] <rausb0> sethk: usb net and mass storage are kernel drivers. some of the scanner drivers run in userspace, gphoto2 is also an example for userspace usb drivers.
[07:19] <Uranboy> h1st0: Can't find the restricted modules
[07:19] <ctrl_x>  how to open .nfo file in ubuntu 6.06 can any one tell me lz
[07:19] <ctrl_x> please
[07:19] <sethk> rausb0, yes, but the question was about webcam.
[07:19] <Heroin> ctrl_x nano
[07:19] <Stormx2> ctrl_x: gedit?
[07:20] <Ferret> connor_: That might be a wireless card... check iwconfig -a
[07:20] <Heroin> .nfo is useless anyway perhaps it contains a serial thats it
[07:20] <Stormx2> nokedli17: with?
[07:20] <nokedli17> the beryl isnt run
[07:20] <rausb0> sethk: okay
[07:20] <I3ooI3oo_werking> any text editor should work
[07:20] <h1st0> Uranboy: okay sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  remove the # in front of universe multiverse and restrcited
[07:20] <Ferret> connor_: If it says 'no wireless extensions' it either means the driver isn't the correct one or there's been some error (so probably check dmesg, etc.)
[07:20] <h1st0> Uranboy: ctrl+x to exit it will prompt you to save the file.
[07:20] <LaughingSam> Hi folks. I'm running vdr (Video Disk Recorder) on my ubuntu-bo in console mode. VDR uses tty1. I've disabled getty on tty1 from /etc/event.d/tty1, but I can't access tty with VDR unless I run it as root. How do I give a specific user access to tty1 (or ttyN, for that matter)?
[07:21] <zipper_> I've followed the guide + troubleshooting at the wiki, but i'm still having trouble with my ati card. fglrxinfo still tells me it's using MESA?! Anyone got the slightest idea of whats wrong?
[07:21] <connor_> So what do I do? it's not listed.
[07:21] <nokedli17> i isntalled the nvidia driver then the beryl,but the beryl isnt run
[07:21] <Uranboy> h1st0: Doing
[07:22] <h1st0> k
[07:22] <Ferret> LaughingSam: You can do that with a udev rule... KERNEL=="tty1", GROUP="tty", MODE="660" or similar
[07:22] <h1st0> Uranboy: you don't have to uncomment the -sources ones just he norml ones
[07:22] <Stormx2> nokedli17: Errors, etc?
[07:22] <ctrl_x> Heroin, i wanna view .NFO file
[07:22] <nokedli17> no error
[07:22] <Stormx2> ctrl_x: Open it in gedit. Whats the problem?
[07:22] <cute_bettong> so there is no way in hell to fix the stupid onbord sound
[07:22] <Ferret> LaughingSam: Check the files in /etc/udev/rules.d and create a new one with a low number (say 20) at the start.  You should be able to work it out
[07:23] <nokedli17> but the windos are flicker
[07:23] <nokedli17> windows
[07:23] <I3ooI3oo_werking> !usertty
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usertty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Uranboy> h1st0: Done
[07:23] <ctrl_x> Stormx2, everytime for each file i have to open it in gedit
[07:23] <LaughingSam> Ferret: OK, I'll look into it!
[07:23] <h1st0> Uranboy: okay sudo apt-get update
[07:23] <cute_bettong> *kicks the liveing crap some more out of his sound card*
[07:23] <Heroin> ctrl_x like i said start a terminal type NANO and then filelocation
[07:23] <ctrl_x> Stormx2, is there any application which will handle .nfo files
[07:24] <connor_> If the drivers aren't correct, how do I get the correct ones?
[07:24] <Heroin> ctrl_x .NFO = .txt
[07:24] <h1st0> Uranboy: then run that command I told you before sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname-r`
[07:24] <Stormx2> ctrl_x: a .nfo is just like a .txt
[07:24] <Uranboy> h1st0: Working...
[07:24] <Stormx2> ctrl_x: Like I said, gedit. You might use nano, vim, emacs...
[07:24] <nokedli17> pls help me
[07:24] <Stormx2> ctrl_x: You could run "cat filename.nfo"
[07:24] <Khem> my fonts are changed on ubuntu how can I recover them
[07:24] <Stormx2> ctrl_x: Its just a text file.
[07:24] <I3ooI3oo_werking> LaughingSam: did you look at usertty ?
[07:24] <Stormx2> Khem: System > Preferences > Fonts
[07:25] <Khem> hmmm I mean the size though is 96 DPI
[07:25] <Khem> it looks bigger
[07:25] <LaughingSam> I3...: Nope, not yet. I have just fiddled with the /etc/event.d/tty1-file
[07:25] <arrummzen> How do I set the timezone on an Ubuntu server from the console?
[07:25] <h1st0> Uranboy: once its done installing packages run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:25] <cables> Does anyone know why using NvAGP instead of agpgart is making my system run hotter than normal?
[07:25] <Khem> Stormx2: is it possible that KDE might have conflicted with some of my gnome dot files
[07:26] <swimmerino88> hello to evrebody i have just install the 2.6.20 kernel on my lap-top...now i can't work with my wireless connection,can somebody help me?please
[07:26] <ctrl_x> Stormx2, how to handle winzip and winrar
[07:26] <Stormx2> Khem: Its possible but unlikely. I really don't know
[07:26] <Khem> they look ugly now
[07:26] <Stormx2> ctrl_x: ZIP is supported by default
[07:26] <Khem> earlier they were better
[07:26] <Stormx2> ctrl_x: RAR support is installable via the "unrar" package
[07:26] <sethk> Khem, I have kde and gnome on many machines, and I haven't run into this problem.  I doubt KDE is responsible
[07:26] <Stormx2> !rar
[07:26] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:27] <foo987234> on my ubuntu laptop, i can't get oustide of the network i'm on.  i can fully access internal boxes.  also, dns resolution works for outside domains, but when i go to actually reach an outside IP it doesn't work.  traceroute/mtr shows i can get to the router but that's where it stops.  could there be any configuration or cache with ubuntu that would be stopping me?
[07:27] <Uranboy> h1st0: nvidia-xconfig command not found
[07:27] <Khem> sethk: hmmm ok
[07:27] <Khem> sethk: I have to reduce DP
[07:27] <beto> hello
[07:27] <Khem> DPI
[07:27] <ubuntu_> helo
[07:27] <beto> I need some help please
[07:27] <Uranboy> h1st0: What was wrong?
[07:27] <Stormx2> beto: Ask away
[07:27] <Pollywog> beto: just ask
[07:28] <beto> about a *.mib files
[07:28] <h1st0> Uranboy: didn't you install nvidia-glx?
[07:28] <LaughingSam> I3...: Is usertty a program or a file?
[07:28] <dv5237_> when i close the lid of my notebook my wifi connection disconnects can i disable that?
[07:28] <Stormx2> beto: Which are?
[07:28] <Shane-S_> can anyone recommend a good SATA Raid controller that will work with Ubuntu, I am trying to build a cheap server for a school
[07:28] <Uranboy> h1st0: It says yes
[07:28] <I3ooI3oo_werking> file in /etc/usertyy
[07:28] <I3ooI3oo_werking> lets you restrict/grand access to tty
[07:28] <h1st0> Uranboy: hrm.. well sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and just make sure In the driver section near the bottom it says Driver     "nvidia"
[07:29] <LaughingSam> I3...: It doesn't eist on my system...
[07:29] <zelrikriando> can somebody help me ?
[07:29] <I3ooI3oo_werking> in unix atleast. i wasn't sure if ubuntu did..
[07:29] <beto> I have download TARGETWARE simulator, but I don't know how install or execute the files
[07:29] <I3ooI3oo_werking> sorry for the wrong advice
[07:29] <Stormx2> zelrikriando: Not unless you say what with.
[07:29] <TelVGG-Ariel> do you know what type and code of icmp is traceroute on ipv6?
[07:29] <nugenoa> What is this? ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?
[07:29] <Pollywog> beto: does the file end in tar.gz?
[07:29] <zelrikriando> I have been asking for hours
[07:30] <sethk> zelrikriando, asking what?
[07:30] <Stormx2> zelrikriando: I haven't been here for hours.
[07:30] <zelrikriando> my sound card wont work
[07:30] <Uranboy> h1st0: Oppps: Adept shows a lot of packs named nvidia, and they are not installed. Should I try to unstall them?
[07:30] <beto> yes, the file is a tgz
[07:30] <sethk> zelrikriando, that's a bit vague
[07:30] <Stormx2> zelrikriando: Have you read the wiki on it?
[07:30] <zelrikriando> and I managed to crash alsamixer
[07:30] <h1st0> Uranboy: nah just make sure that driver section matches
[07:30] <Pollywog> beto: have you untarred the file... opened it?
[07:30] <connor_> When i do iwconfig, it says unassociated essid "linksys". is the fact that it's unassociated the reason it doesn't
[07:30] <zelrikriando> ok here are the problems :
[07:30] <connor_> work
[07:31] <HaCKeT|FiZZ> has anybody experience with ubuntu and sata... am trying to install it but I can't see any option where I could specify something like libdata.enableatapi=1 ..... ?
[07:31] <StoneNote> arrummzen, http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux
[07:31] <zelrikriando> Modprobe Conf ---------------------------------------------
[07:31] <zelrikriando> Warning: module config file does not exist
[07:31] <LaughingSam> I3...: No probs. Ubuntu seems to have arranged things in a slightly different matter. The /etc/event.d/tty1-files are a rather new concept (or so I've understood)
[07:31] <HaCKeT|FiZZ> sata cdrom to be more particular
[07:31] <Uranboy> h1st0: I've found nvidia-xconfig there. Install?
[07:31] <zelrikriando> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:31] <h1st0> Uranboy: yeah
[07:31] <sethk> zelrikriando, once you have the problem with modprobe, nothing else is going to work, and the way the stuff fails is not helpful information
[07:31] <Uranboy> h1st0: working...
[07:31] <Stormx2> zelrikriando: You lost your alsa config file?
[07:32] <sethk> zelrikriando, you have to create the modules definition file that modprobe is complaining about
[07:32] <Uranboy> h1st0: Done.
[07:32] <zelrikriando> I never had it
[07:32] <h1st0> Uranboy: okay sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:32] <zelrikriando> I thnk
[07:32] <beto> yes
[07:32] <Uranboy> h1st0: Done.
[07:32] <zelrikriando> how do I do that
[07:32] <Pollywog> beto: there is usually a README file or similar that tells you how to install
[07:32] <sethk> zelrikriando, you need /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/module.dep
[07:32] <Pollywog> beto: sometimes it is called INSTALL
[07:32] <zelrikriando> I tried to do stuff with the website and I crashed the alsa
[07:33] <Uranboy> h1st0: Backup created.
[07:33] <zelrikriando> I am a dangerous user
[07:33] <h1st0> Uranboy: restart and you should be good
[07:33] <sethk> zelrikriando, on my box it's /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/module.dep
[07:33] <Stormx2> beto: What are you installing again / what does it do?
[07:33] <sethk> zelrikriando, until you fix that problem, the rest is just nonsense.
[07:33] <Uranboy> h1st0: I hope so. Thanks a lot! :)
[07:33] <OuZo> why is google earth so slow? my CPU goes to 100% thanks
[07:33] <sethk> zelrikriando, you can't get sound without the sound module loading, and it won't load without the module.dep file
[07:33] <zelrikriando> the file is there
[07:33] <h1st0> OuZo: cuz java sucks.
[07:34] <zelrikriando> module.dep is there
[07:34] <connor_> work
[07:34] <sethk> zelrikriando, modprobe is complaining about the format, so it must be corrupted
[07:34] <Pollywog> OuZo: yeah I think h1st0 is right
[07:34] <OuZo> h1st0: thats true, but is there nothing i can do about it
[07:34] <sethk> zelrikriando, tell us the modprobe error text again
[07:34] <connor_> When i do iwconfig, it says unassociated essid "linksys". is the fact that it's unassociated the reason it doesn't work?
[07:34] <OuZo> Pollywog: it works well in win
[07:34] <h1st0> OuZo: no idea
[07:34] <zelrikriando> Warning: module config file does not exist
[07:34] <OuZo> h1st0: ok
[07:34] <OuZo> thanks
[07:34] <Pollywog> OuZo: true, even in the same machine
[07:35] <zelrikriando> hold on
[07:35] <h1st0> OuZo: maybe some one else.
[07:35] <Uranboy> h1st0: Opps... I lost my GUI
[07:35] <OuZo> Pollywog: google might not be optimizing the Linux version...
[07:35] <OuZo> & they dont release there code
[07:35] <h1st0> Uranboy: okay did you get an error
[07:35] <sethk> zelrikriando, module.dep is the only file that modprobe will refuse to run without.  Might be others that mess it up if they exist, I suppose.
[07:35] <Pollywog> OuZo: I guess they don't really like us... Linux users
[07:35] <zelrikriando> I did run aadebug to get this message
[07:36] <Uranboy> h1st0:  What kind of error?
[07:36] <OuZo> Pollywog: no they like us, google is built on linux
[07:36] <LaughingSam> Ferret: I did some poking but didn't (immediately) get much wiser in the tty-problem. Got any good links I could look into?
[07:36] <OuZo> im sure
[07:36] <goomei> When i try to login to a tty console i get a cannot load module (i think flashes quickly) and goes right back to login:?  Thinking somehow the consoles are locked?
[07:36] <h1st0> Uranboy: Anything?
[07:36] <beto> Well, I downloaded the Targetware flight simulator, but I don't know how can install
[07:36] <h1st0> Uranboy: or it didn't boot ?  What happened?  I can't exactly see your screen
[07:36] <intercool> When ubuntu says AIGLX what does it mean ?  fglrx  or radeon  + mesa glx ?
[07:36] <Uranboy> h1st0: I' m in a text mode
[07:36] <Pollywog> OuZo: I guess they don't really like us... Linux users DESKTOP users  :)
[07:36] <Uranboy> h1st0: Standard text login
[07:36] <zelrikriando> how to use modprobe
[07:36] <OuZo> :(
[07:36] <h1st0> Uranboy: okay well cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[07:37] <kyuuketsuki47> zel, are you on a laptop?
[07:37] <zelrikriando> yeah
[07:37] <kyuuketsuki47> goto the terminal and type "alsaconf"
[07:37] <imacoolkid> How do I delete a entry from the applications menu?
[07:37] <h1st0> Uranboy: what type of video card do you have and what version of ubuntu are you using.
[07:37] <LaughingSam> Ferret: Or wait...found this line in permissions.rules: "KERNEL="tty" GROUP = root, MODE="0666"
[07:37] <Thug-N-Me> i just inserted my minisd card intro pc and ubuntu doesnt see it
[07:37] <Thug-N-Me> any idea ?
[07:37] <kyuuketsuki47> and check to see if external speakers is on
[07:37] <kyuuketsuki47> if it is turn it off
[07:38] <zelrikriando> this command do not exist
[07:38] <imacoolkid> what folder is my applications menu at? I need to manually remove wolfenstein ET, a deleted it from local games and local bin but now I need to get rid off it from my "Start"like menu
[07:38] <Ferret> LaughingSam: Yeah, if you create a file with a lower number than the file that that line is in, it should override it.
[07:38] <trycyt> Can update-alternatives be used to manage symlinks in /usr/lib/cups/backend ?
[07:38] <OuZo> how do i search my apt cache for programs beginning with R
[07:38] <OuZo> never mind
[07:38] <LaughingSam> Ferret: And then :"KERNEL="tty[0-9] * GROUP="root"
[07:38] <Ferret> LaughingSam: It's best not to change the files directly, as the system might update them
[07:38] <Uranboy> h1st0: Geforce 6100 card and kubuntu 6.10 alternate
[07:38] <Stormx2> OuZo: You might as well just use synaptic...
[07:38] <zelrikriando> kyu the command doesnt exist Oo
[07:39] <h1st0> Uranboy: k.. what did the command result in?
[07:39] <LaughingSam> Ferret: Should I change the tty or the tty[0-9] -line?
[07:39] <OuZo> Stormx2: yes, just thought of that now
[07:39] <OuZo> i like the terminal thou
[07:39] <Pollywog> beto: I am downloading it now to look
[07:39] <Uranboy> h1st0: failed to load module "nvidia" (doesn't exist)
[07:39] <imacoolkid> what folder is my applications menu at? I need to manually remove wolfenstein ET, a deleted it from local games and local bin but now I need to get rid off it from my "Start"like menu
[07:39] <imacoolkid> what folder is my applications menu at? I need to manually remove wolfenstein ET, a deleted it from local games and local bin but now I need to get rid off it from my "Start"like menu
[07:39] <Ferret> LaughingSam: No, don't change them... create a new file with the line: KERNEL="tty1", MODE="0660", GROUP="tty"
[07:39] <LaughingSam> Ferret: And I guess I'll simply change the GROUP to some group the user wo wants to access tty1 belongs to?
[07:39] <imacoolkid> Oops
[07:39] <Coffeegrindah> can anyone assist with setting a GRUB password, I'm running of a USB stick and would like the added security (case i lose my drive)
[07:40] <LaughingSam> Ferret: Yeah, OK, got that and meant that :)
[07:40] <Ferret> LaughingSam: then you just need to add the user you run the program as to the tty group
[07:40] <zelrikriando> I think I crashed the alsa by trying to install new things for it
[07:40] <h1st0> Uranboy: okay did you install linux-restricted-modules-`uname-r`  because it doesn't appear that you did.
[07:40] <swimmerino88> can somebody help me to install my wireless on the 2.6.20 kernel?
[07:40] <Ferret> LaughingSam: Yup. :)
[07:40] <predaeus> imacoolkid: right click on the applications menu.
[07:40] <sethk> Coffeegrindah, what have you tried to do to set it?
[07:40] <Uranboy> h1st0: I tried to install as you said
[07:40] <h1st0> Uranboy: dpkg -l | grep linux-restricted   will show you the packages installed.  You are looking fo one that matches your kernel
[07:40] <Prez_> whn i come back from hibernate on my thinkpad x60s sometims sound does not come back, any ideas?  maybe unload drivers before hibernate and then reload?
[07:40] <beto> Pollywog: thanks
[07:40] <OuZo> if i had to install every package that came with Ubuntu Debian how much space would i kneed? 30G?
[07:40] <LaughingSam> Ferret: Cheers, I'll give it a poke. And a lower number overrides the settings.
[07:41] <imacoolkid> predaeus: That doesn't help me remove applications from it... oratleast I don't see the button to
[07:41] <imacoolkid> edit menus?
[07:41] <zelrikriando> is there a way to recover alsa?
[07:41] <predaeus> yea
[07:41] <h1st0> Uranboy: to find out what kernel you are running uname -r in a terminal
[07:41] <kyuuketsuki47> try sudo alsaconf
[07:41] <Coffeegrindah> sethk: google.. lots of it, I can figure out to crack it, and how to Reset it from something different by editing the HASH, but no simple just set it rules
[07:41] <zelrikriando> didnt work
[07:41] <zelrikriando> I already did sudo
[07:42] <sethk> Coffeegrindah, let me look
[07:43] <Ferret> Coffeegrindah: Password protecting grub on a removable disk doesn't protect the data on the disk... o.o
[07:43] <Coffeegrindah> Ohh I know
[07:43] <Ferret> Coffeegrindah: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7353
[07:43] <chris72> somebody knows how to change evolution to support emacs keybinding?
[07:43] <hexion> hi
[07:43] <Uranboy> h1st0: 2.6.17-10-generic kernel and matches one of them
[07:43] <h1st0> Uranboy: basically type in sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[07:43] <goomei> Is there a way to disable logins to ttys?
[07:43] <h1st0> Uranboy: and which kernel are you running?
[07:43] <Pollywog> beto: looks like it is already compiled
[07:43] <predaeus> imacoolkid: to remove you have to right click on the element again.
[07:43] <kyuuketsuki47> chances are your problem lies within alsa, and the fact that for some reason external speakers is switched on
[07:43] <Coffeegrindah> ferret: looks good by me..
[07:43] <h1st0> Uranboy: okay try lsmod | grep nvidia     ?
[07:43] <sethk> Coffeegrindah, you just put into menu.lst a line like:     password --md5 PASSWORD          (PASSWORD is the actual password, of course)
[07:43] <Thug-N-Me> whats the package that allows me to connect to one of my mate computer with graphic interface ?
[07:43] <zelrikriando> how do I recover alsa?
[07:43] <kraypius> hi, I need to edit the registry on my windows partition from ubuntu. Is there a tool for this?
[07:43] <Coffeegrindah> sethk: thks
[07:44] <Pollywog> beto: cd into the directory targetware
[07:44] <pterk> Hi all. Is there an easy way to get an ubuntu-desktop system to 'downgrade' to ubuntu-minimal (or -standard). I want to get back down to a minimal system without reinstalling if I can avoid it...
[07:44] <zelrikriando> actually I agree, this alsa is weird
[07:44] <Uranboy> h1st0: Cannot find that modules
[07:44] <h1st0> Thug-N-Me: well there are several ways.  XDMCP VNC etc...
[07:44] <h1st0> Uranboy: k sudo modprobe nvidia
[07:44] <hexion> how can I block a version of a package to avoid "aptitude" to upgrade it? (aptitude forbid-version package=version doesn't work)
[07:44] <Pollywog> beto: then run ./targetware
[07:44] <goomei> Thug-N-Me: or you can just do X11 forwarding
[07:44] <Thug-N-Me> h1st0 thanks
[07:44] <Ferret> Or even rdesktop :)
[07:44] <h1st0> hexion: man apt-get and you want ot keep the package
[07:44] <userund> kraypius, sounds dangerous.  Even if you found a tool, to save your settings you'd have to write to the NTFS partition (if it's not FAT) which is experimental at best
[07:45] <Ferret> Thug-N-Me: vnc is the usual cross-internet method people seem to use, fwiw
[07:45] <hexion> h1st0: can't I with aptitude?
[07:45] <kyuuketsuki47> try downloading the alsa gui from synaptic
[07:45] <Pollywog> beto: I would try it myself but it might crash my machine
[07:45] <zelrikriando> how do I fix alsa
[07:45] <Thug-N-Me> Ferret thanks
[07:45] <h1st0> hexion: yeah just man aptitude they both have options to keep packags at current version
[07:45] <zelrikriando> the gui is crashed as well
[07:45] <kraypius> userund, my windows install is broken and editing the registry is the only way to fix it
[07:45] <hexion> h1st0: I've tried forbid-version without success...
[07:45] <h1st0> Uranboy: did the modprobe work?
[07:46] <Uranboy> h1st0: sudo modprobe nvidia command not found
[07:46] <Ferret> kraypius: You might find it easier to boot a recovery console from your windows disk nd look up on the MS knowledge base how to edit the registry from there than try to do it from ubuntu
[07:46] <Pollywog> beto: I had to use Firefox to get the file because Konqueror did not know how to handle the download link
[07:46] <h1st0> Uranboy: retype it because thats impossible.
[07:46] <zylche> improbable.
[07:46] <zylche> unpossible!
[07:46] <userund> kraypius, if you say so.  You could just install windows again without deleting the data if that's what you're concerned about
[07:46] <Mordicus> hello
[07:46] <kraypius> ferret, when i try to load the console from the install cd it asks me for a floppy that i dont have, i dont even have a floppy drive
[07:47] <h1st0> Uranboy: you said this was a clean install are you sure you removed your previous attemtps?
[07:47] <zelrikriando> I this the command that crashed it was :  sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0;
[07:47] <kraypius> i would hate to overwrite the install when its just 1 messed up registry key
[07:47] <rambo3> kraypius, that windows install cd
[07:47] <kyuuketsuki47> apt-get install alsa-utils try that
[07:47] <zelrikriando> think*
[07:47] <h1st0> hexion: aptitude hold <packagename>
[07:47] <kraypius> its xp pro
[07:47] <Uranboy> sudo modprobe nvidia: Yes, I reformatted the hda
[07:47] <hexion> h1st0: seems that hold option did the trick, now I don't know if I need to unhold it in the future or when a new package hit the repos it will upgrade..
[07:47] <Pollywog> beto: you still there?
[07:47] <h1st0> hexion: should be what you are looking for.
[07:48] <h1st0> hexion: well why would you want to hold if you want to unhold it later?
[07:48] <hexion> h1st0: hehe, I was faster :)
[07:48] <zelrikriando> seems that it is up to date
[07:48] <Thug-N-Me> hy ubuntu doenst do anything when i insert the mini sd into my box ?
[07:48] <Ferret> kraypius: I think you may be choosing 'Austomated System Restore (ASR)' rather than 'recovery console'...
[07:48] <Uranboy> h1st0: Yes, I reformatted the hda
[07:48] <jesus> hola
[07:48] <Thug-N-Me> how do i access it ?
[07:48] <beto> Pollywog: well, I think that the file it's bad
[07:48] <h1st0> Uranboy: and it says command not found when you type in that command?
[07:48] <Pollywog> beto: oic
[07:48] <hexion> h1st0: because now, the version installed works, but the one in repos breaks my wireless... so I want to block just current version and test the next one that will hit (someday) the repos
[07:48] <kyuuketsuki47> after you do that, it might be already configured
[07:48] <Uranboy> h1st0: Sorry but yes
[07:49] <kraypius> hm
[07:49] <kraypius> brb
[07:49] <kyuuketsuki47> if not go into the mixer
[07:49] <Pollywog> beto: let me try but if I disappear you know why
[07:49] <h1st0> hexion: yah you can unhold it later
[07:49] <Pollywog> brb
[07:49] <beto> ok
[07:49] <kyuuketsuki47> use "alsamixer"
[07:49] <hexion> h1st0: ok, thank you :)
[07:49] <Uranboy> h1st0: Opps, you win.
[07:49] <zelrikriando> doesnt work
[07:49] <h1st0> Uranboy: ?
[07:49] <zelrikriando> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:49] <Uranboy> h1st0: I failed one caracter
[07:50] <h1st0> Uranboy: so did it return to a prompt?
[07:50] <kyuuketsuki47> you have alsa installed right?
[07:50] <Uranboy> h1st0: Nothing
[07:50] <h1st0> Uranboy: now try lsmod | grpe nvidia
[07:50] <h1st0> Uranboy: grep not grpe
[07:50] <zelrikriando> I think so it was working before
[07:50] <Pollywog> beto: it would not run because I am missing some libs, libopenal.so.0:
[07:50] <Mordicus_> Please, a question : I have a trident video card, and "xserver-xorg-video-trident" is install, but Ubuntu uses the VESA driver... what can I do to make it use the proper Trident video driver ?
[07:50] <Xappe> hmm, is fluxbox in edgy repos built without imlib2 support? It seems I can't use png icons in my menu
[07:51] <kyuuketsuki47> ok, well we'll try a complete reinstall
[07:51] <cute_bettong> so the only hope i have for this computer is to basically find a low profile pci card....there is no way to get the microphone working on this dimension c521
[07:51] <zelrikriando> I tried to install alsa-driver-1.0.13
[07:51] <zelrikriando> I think that may crashed it
[07:51] <Uranboy> h1st0: Ok.
[07:51] <Pollywog> beto: do you have libopenal.so.0:?
[07:51] <h1st0> Uranboy: did it return something?
[07:51] <Mordicus_> no idea ?
[07:51] <Mordicus_> :'(
[07:51] <kyuuketsuki47>    apt-get install libasound2 alsa-utils alsa-oss
[07:51] <Giupeppe> ho guys! is there someone who can help me with murrina engine installation?
[07:51] <kyuuketsuki47> type that in
[07:51] <kyuuketsuki47> then
[07:51] <Ferret> Xappe: find out! ldd `which fluxbox` 2>&1 | grep -E 'png|imlib'
[07:52] <kyuuketsuki47> download the sources
[07:52] <Uranboy> h1st0: It says nvidia 5444340 0 (next row) 12c_core 29312 1 nvidia
[07:52] <zelrikriando> I typed it
[07:52] <h1st0> Uranboy: okay sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart  and you should have your X back
[07:52] <liri> when apt-get wants to install some other packages with the one I wanted how can I explicitly install just the package I want?
[07:52] <zelrikriando> alsa oss got installed
[07:52] <projoffset> dumb question, but i'm having problems finding answer online due to common keywords
[07:52] <zelrikriando> the sources ?
[07:53] <Uranboy> h1st0: Yeah! Thanks! :)
[07:53] <kyuuketsuki47> yea, but before that try to see if alsamixer works now
[07:53] <zelrikriando> it doesnt
[07:53] <theknownunsoldie> does anyone know of a text editor that allows multiple file find and replace options?
[07:53] <h1st0> Uranboy: k.  Now you are using nvidia drivers with rendering support
[07:53] <projoffset> how do i get rid of a folder that put itself in my "places" menu without my doing?
[07:53] <Giupeppe> guys when I try to install murrine engine it say me that I need GTK+-2.8 what is this? how can I get it? in Synaptic i didn't find it... :( help please O:-)
[07:53] <beto> Pollywog: I'm searching
[07:53] <h1st0> projoffset: is it a mounted drive?
[07:54] <Pollywog> beto: did you get an error when you ran it?
[07:54] <Xappe> Ferret: fluxbox -i says -IMLIB2 so I guess it is disabled
[07:54] <Uranboy> h1st0: Opps: there is a  cursor in the left upper corner and nothing else....
[07:54] <Pollywog> beto: apt-cache search libopenal
[07:54] <projoffset> no, i just created a folder in my home folder called "documents" and it apparently placed itself in "places".. i renamed it hoping it would take it out auto like it put it in, but now the link just says it cant find the folder
[07:54] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: That would be confusing having them all on the screen at the same time. o.o  Most people probably use 'sed' for that, from the command line
[07:54] <zipper_> where can i find a channel that deals with XGL / Beryl?
[07:54] <Roachclit> Okay guys can anyone help me now with awireless connection?  I got my screen resolution resolved, but now it is a connectivity issue
[07:54] <h1st0> Uranboy: try a restart now.  hit ctrl+alt+f1 and type in sudo reboot
[07:55] <kyuuketsuki47> do you have the sources from the last time you installed it?
[07:55] <kyuuketsuki47> or you don't know
[07:55] <Ferret> zipper_: #ubuntu-effects iirc
[07:55] <Roachclit> I have a pretty good background in wireless, but maybe I am missing something on ubuntu
[07:55] <zelrikriando> I dont know
[07:55] <zipper_> Ferret: thanks
[07:55] <Uranboy> h1st0: OK
[07:55] <h1st0> Uranboy: if that doens't work we can put the backup back in place and you'll ahve to talk to kubuntu peeps
[07:55] <h1st0> Uranboy: or use Envy or somehting.
[07:56] <theknownunsoldie> Ferret, will sed have a desired outcome? can it edit let's say 140 .asx files at once?
[07:56] <kyuuketsuki47> to check try to unpack it using tar jxvf alsa-driver-xxx.tar.bz2
[07:56] <Pollywog> beto: I cd'd to the targetware directory and then did ./targetware but I got an error about that library because I do not have those libs installed
[07:56] <kyuuketsuki47> if it doesnt goto the alsa site and download the sources tar file
[07:56] <Roachclit> Can someone help me with wireless network on Ubuntu
[07:56] <zelrikriando> where?
[07:56] <darweth> Hello: Does anyone now how to change the behavior of files in Firefox?  I accidentally clicked "do this from now on" to save .torrent files to the desktop in Firefox and now I want to revert back to the OPEN/SAVE dialog instead, but I do not see anyway how.  Torrents are not listed under file types in the Contents preference tab.
[07:56] <zelrikriando> where do I run this command?
[07:57] <kyuuketsuki47> in terminal
[07:57] <projoffset> darweth: what bt client are you using?
[07:57] <darweth> AZ.
[07:57] <Pollywog> beto: my guess is the required package is libopenal0a but that is just a guess
[07:57] <zelrikriando> ok so specific directory?
[07:57] <kyuuketsuki47> usually those install to the main directory
[07:57] <goomei> Anyone shed some insight on why I cant log in on any of my TTYs?  When I try to login to one it flashes module unknown and goes right back to login:
[07:58] <beto> I have the libopenal0
[07:58] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: Sure.  It takes a bit of a while to learn, though, if you're not familiar with regexs
[07:58] <Roachclit> I can't get connected to my wireless network:
[07:58] <Pollywog> beto: and did you get the error I got?
[07:58] <Uranboy> h1st0: thanks, but it doesn't works :( Other distros?
[07:58] <h1st0> !wireless > Roachclit
[07:58] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: You *can* just about use it to edit binary files, but I'd write a perl script rather than take that effort.
[07:58] <beto> but the targetware don't work
[07:58] <h1st0> Uranboy: no not other distros
[07:58] <beto> nothing happens
[07:58] <h1st0> Uranboy: just need to figure out why its not working.
[07:58] <MarcN> Roachclit: your hardware supported/detected?
[07:58] <Pollywog> beto: I just installed it, let me try again
[07:58] <Thug-N-Me> does anyone know how to i access my minisd card ? i just pluged into the minisd adapter ... now what ?
[07:58] <beto> ok
[07:58] <h1st0> !envy | Uranboy
[07:58] <ubotu> Uranboy: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[07:59] <xelados> What would I do to change Xorg's refresh rate to match that of my monitor? It's currently 75 Hz, I think, and it needs to be 60 Hz because I'm using an LCD screen
[07:59] <zelrikriando> ok so what do I download?
[07:59] <Pollywog> beto: now it complains I need libcurl
[07:59] <zelrikriando> I am on a mirror with a bunch of files
[07:59] <h1st0> Uranboy: I would sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx and then try the envy howoto there for nviida
[07:59] <h1st0> Uranboy: to get X working if you need it you can sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:59] <Ferret> xelados: In the screen section, you need a line like: Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024_60; 1280x1024; 1024x768_60; 1024x768; ...."
[07:59] <tomas__> Uranboy, what is the problem? Stops wroking after a reboot?
[08:00] <theknownunsoldie> Ferret, i'm not really familiar with regexs. i know there is a software for windows called editpad pro that does what i'm trying to do. i'm surprised that there isn't anything for linux.
[08:00] <Pollywog> and I have libcurl3 installed
[08:00] <Uranboy> h1st0: OK, thanks!
[08:00] <Ferret> xelados: Uh, the display section.  Put it right under the 'Default Depth' line
[08:00] <MarcN> Thug-N-Me: mmc/sd readers aren't widely supported.  I either plug my camera or get a USB sd cardreader for <$20
[08:00] <tomas__> i had the same problem once, and that was due to me installing the official drivers which conflicted with the ubuntu ones.
[08:00] <beto> ok
[08:00] <xelados> Ferret: Alright, I'll check that out
[08:00] <dannythedog> hello
[08:00] <Pollywog> beto: read the documentation for the game and find out what the dependencies are
[08:00] <Ferret> I forget the right name for the section
[08:00] <Uranboy> thomas: text instead of GUI after nvidia driver install
[08:00] <Pollywog> game/simulator
[08:01] <beto> but where is the documentation?
[08:01] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: I wouldn't see the point of doing something to 140 files in a text editor... you'd need to have 140 files open at once?  Insane. ;p
[08:01] <Pollywog> on the site where you downloaded
[08:01] <tomas__> Uranboy, Does it give you a error msg?
[08:01] <Pollywog> the archive has docs too
[08:01] <Uranboy> No, standard login
[08:01] <beto> ok
[08:01] <Pollywog> beto: in targetware/docs/
[08:01] <xelados> Ferret: Is it under SubSection Display?
[08:01] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: Regexs are *well worth* learning if you're going to use Linux a lot, you can do a huge amount with them
[08:01] <fraggsta> I shouldn't rely on feisty for a desktop system etc etc, but gnome-terminal will not start on feisty.  Instead I get "The program 'gnome-terminal' received an X Window System error.  The error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)'. (Details: serial 105 error_code 2 request_code 78 minor_code 0)"  - help!
[08:01] <tomas__> there should be a log somewhere under /var/logs/xorg something
[08:01] <beto> thanks Pollywog
[08:01] <tomas__> see if it says something in there
[08:02] <Pollywog> yw
[08:02] <jenda> So... can anyone give me a tip how to restore keyboard settings to default in Ubuntu?
[08:02] <connor_> When i do iwconfig, it says unassociated essid "linksys". is the fact that it's unassociated the reason it doesn't work?
[08:02] <kyuuketsuki47> you want to download the latest driver
[08:02] <dannythedog> how can get opera in ubuntu?
[08:02] <Ferret> xelados: I don't recall it being under a subsection... I can't really check because a) this is a seriously undocumented feature for some reason and b) I'm booted to windows right now
[08:02] <edward> Can anyone reccommend an easy to install/play FPS with gameplay similar to counter strike?
[08:02] <jenda> I believe I'd need to go X-deep to fix my problem :/
[08:02] <tomas__> Uranboy, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:02] <kyuuketsuki47> which i think is 1.0.9
[08:02] <xelados> Ferret: Ah, alright.
[08:02] <theknownunsoldie> Ferret, I'm definitely going to look into it. It's just i guess i'm looking for the quick, easy fix that doesn't help you learn anything. laziness i suppose.
[08:02] <RaveGuru> what GUI irc clients are good?
[08:02] <Ferret> xelados: Whichever section has the DefaultDepth is the correct place to put it, not in a subsection thereof
[08:03] <xelados> okay
[08:03] <PriceChild> dannythedog, opera have edgy/dapper debs on their website
[08:03] <tomas__> RaveGuru, xchat?
[08:03] <PriceChild> dannythedog, just download and install :)
[08:03] <melania> ok i've got a big problem. when i start up ubuntu, i enter my username and password, then the screen goes blank and back to the username/password screen and it's a never ending cycle. what should i do??
[08:03] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: Well, is there a specific task you want to do now?  I could tell you the command and you could try and work out how it works. ;)
[08:03] <RaveGuru> tomas__: using it now. seems a bit limited
[08:03] <Uranboy> tomas: It's very big
[08:03] <edward> Can anyone reccommend an easy to install/play FPS with gameplay similar to counter strike?
[08:03] <tomas__> Uranboy, it probably says something at the bottom
[08:03] <zelrikriando> kyuu I have it on my disk
[08:04] <Uranboy> tomas: No drivers available.
[08:04] <RaveGuru> edward: wolfenstein enemy territory
[08:04] <zelrikriando> I have the : alsa-driver-1.0.13
[08:04] <edward> Thanks
[08:04] <edward> Multiplayer?
[08:04] <RaveGuru> yep
[08:04] <kyuuketsuki47> unpack it with the command i told you earlier, only changing the xxx with 1.0.13
[08:04] <zelrikriando> I did it
[08:05] <tomas__> Uranboy, you have only tried to install the nvidia drivers using apt-get right? you have not also installed it through the official drivers?
[08:05] <NewbieUser00001> !samba
[08:05] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:05] <ctech21> hey guys
[08:05] <zelrikriando> and I think I did the next step wrong and that s what crashed my alsa
[08:05] <melania> ok i've got a big problem. when i start up ubuntu, i enter my username and password, then the screen goes blank and back to the username/password screen and it's a never ending cycle. what should i do??
[08:05] <kyuuketsuki47> compiling?
[08:06] <Uranboy> tomas: No, I reinstalld 4 times the whole system after the official drivers...
[08:06] <kyuuketsuki47> alright
[08:06] <theknownunsoldie> ferret, basically, there are multiple .asx files in about 27 different directories. the asx files reside one directory down from the parent directory of each of these courses (/course/documents/bhd_02.asx) I would like to change an IP to a URL.
[08:06] <liri> Is it possible to add RAID1 to an already installed system?
[08:06] <tomas__> Uranboy, ah i see
[08:06] <AMD-> hi is this correct "ls usb"
[08:06] <kyuuketsuki47> cd alsa-driver-1.0.13
[08:06] <tomas__> i really have no clue to be honest :\ i only know that i had a very similar problem after installing the official ones
[08:06] <zelrikriando> ok
[08:06] <YamiTenshi> I don't think it is, usb is not a path
[08:06] <kyuuketsuki47> ./configure --with-sequencer=yes && make
[08:06] <tomas__> the only fix was to uninstall it
[08:06] <kyuuketsuki47> make install
[08:07] <zipper_> Anyone know of any good laptop specific apps? Like a APM batterywatch, touchpad control panel and so on... (For an Asus a6r)
[08:07] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: sed -i -e 's/123\.123\.123\.123/example.com/g' */*.asx
[08:07] <Uranboy> tomas: OK. Lets do it
[08:07] <zelrikriando> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:07] <zelrikriando> See `config.log' for more details.
[08:07] <EADG> Afternoon all.
[08:07] <AMD-> how do i find out my usb connected devices ? ls usb ?
[08:07] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: Although first try 'ls */*.asx' to see if all the files get captured
[08:07] <melania> ok i've got a big problem. when i start up ubuntu, i enter my username and password, then the screen goes blank and back to the username/password screen and it's a never ending cycle. can anyone help me?
[08:07] <Ferret> AMD-: lsusb
[08:07] <YamiTenshi> you should be able to see them under device management, I think
[08:07] <tomas__> when i say uninstall, i mean the official drivers downloaded from nvidia.com
[08:08] <lissom> melania: check what shell you're executing in /etc/passwd
[08:08] <lerox> "lsusb"
[08:08] <LiENUS> for some reason my usb thumb drive isnt being automounted with 6.10
[08:08] <lissom> melania: make sure it's not like /bin/false or something like that
[08:08] <LiENUS> it use to be automounted...
[08:08] <Uranboy> tomas: There is no official drivers on the notebook
[08:08] <AMD-> thanks guys
[08:08] <LiENUS> what program controlls automount?
[08:08] <tomas__> yeah, so it is probably not the same problem :\
[08:08] <melania> how do i do that in recovery mode?
[08:08] <lissom> melania: or /bin/logout
[08:08] <zelrikriando> it didnt go through kyuu
[08:08] <theknownunsoldie> Ferret, how does sed know where to find what i want to replace, and replace what i want it to find?
[08:09] <LiENUS> nm got it
[08:09] <dk_ii> is their anyway to backup my Ubuntu install and restore it if I mess something up?
[08:09] <lissom> melania: if you boot into single user you can vi the /etc/passwd file and edit it...to like /bin/bash or /bin/<insert your favorite shell here>
[08:09] <theknownunsoldie> Ferret, or is that just the first step?
[08:09] <ctech21> i have a problem... i am trying to install the nvidia drivers on here, and when i get to run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" i get this strange error saying the X config was changed and if i know what im doing, type in some md5 command... but when i did last time it broke the whole installation, and i had to reinstall it.. any ideas?
[08:09] <kyuuketsuki47> hmm, you might have to get gcc for the c compiler, thats the only think i can think of
[08:09] <Uranboy> tomas: But it looks like
[08:09] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: It just takes a list of files at the end.  The bash shell generates that list of files from '*/*.asx'
[08:09] <kyuuketsuki47> then try that step again
[08:10] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: If there's a list of specific files you want to do this with then the process is slightly different, I was assuming that from the courses/ directory, all .asx files in each subdirectory would be included
[08:10] <melania> the thing is i didn't change anything at all. i had just turned on my computer and looked at some stuff on firefox, then turned it off and back on and now it's cycling
[08:10] <goomei> [5~/quit
[08:10] <goomei> clear
[08:10] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: To see what I mean, try cd /course; ls */*.asx
[08:10] <lissom> melania: dunno, that's just the first thing that came to mind
[08:10] <zelrikriando> how ?
[08:10] <melania> k
[08:10] <B|nTaRa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10372/
[08:10] <B|nTaRa> how to mount this ?
[08:10] <noodles12> I have a usb wireless thing that has a chipset that should be supported by default but it does not recognize and modprobe has a "FATAL: module not found" how do i fix this?
[08:10] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: It's not ls generating the list... you can replace the 'ls' command with 'echo' and it should be the same (although less readable)
[08:11] <B|nTaRa> !ntfs
[08:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:11] <B|nTaRa> !ntfs-3g
[08:11] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:11] <Askar> there is no shadow under my gnome-panel like in this picture:
[08:11] <Askar> http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/13548-2.jpg
[08:11] <Askar> and in every picture I found!
[08:11] <Askar> How do I make a shadow under it?
[08:11] <ctech21> please can someone help me :(
[08:12] <tuna-fish> I just realised that a terminal window i left open has some really strange messages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10380/ Anyone know what they mean?
[08:12] <kyuuketsuki47> goto gcc.gnu.org and follow their instructions
[08:12] <zelrikriando> I think I have gcc
[08:12] <kyuuketsuki47> then you should have no problem...
[08:12] <zelrikriando> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[08:13] <kyuuketsuki47> it should work, because that is a c compiler
[08:13] <zelrikriando> that was in the log
[08:13] <ctech21> i have a problem... i am trying to install the nvidia drivers on here, and when i get to run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" i get this strange error saying the X config was changed and if i know what im doing, type in some md5 command... but when i did last time it broke the whole installation, and i had to reinstall it.. any ideas?
[08:13] <Stallo> Hi ladies and gentlemen! Anyone know the terminal command to list wlan around oneself?
[08:13] <Seveas> Stallo, sudo iwlist scan
[08:13] <melania> ok i've got a big problem. when i start up ubuntu, i enter my username and password, then the screen goes blank and back to the username/password screen and it's a never ending cycle. can anyone help me?
[08:13] <ctech21> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[08:13] <ctech21> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[08:13] <ctech21> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[08:13] <ctech21> command:
[08:13] <ctech21> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[08:13] <ctech21> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[08:13] <Stallo> Seveas THANKS!!!
[08:13] <ctech21> from nv to nvidia.
[08:13] <theknownunsoldie> Ferret, ok i got the ls to work fine...thats pretty handy!
[08:14] <Seveas> !pastebin | ctech21
[08:14] <ubotu> ctech21: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:14] <kyuuketsuki47> hm, try exctracting to there, thats the only thing i can think of
[08:14] <ctech21> sorry
[08:14] <Seveas> ctech21, "otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section"
[08:14] <ctech21> i did
[08:14] <ctech21> i get the same message
[08:14] <Seveas> changed nv to nvidia?
[08:14] <zelrikriando> ?
[08:14] <xelados> Ferret: The X server said "MetaModes" isn't a valid keyword. And I put it under the "Screen" section.
[08:14] <Seveas> then you don't need to re-run the script :)
[08:14] <kyuuketsuki47> because i did this exact same process and it worked for me with little complication
[08:15] <Ferret> theknownunsoldie: Almost all the commands in linux just take a plain list of files and expect you to use the shell or another command to choose them... so it's a more consistent interface
[08:15] <Uranboy> Thanks for all your help, folks! By!
[08:15] <melania> ok i've got a big problem. when i start up ubuntu, i enter my username and password, then the screen goes blank and back to the username/password screen and it's a never ending cycle. can anyone help me?
[08:15] <kyuuketsuki47> hm, obvious troubleshooting idea, try rebooting and going into the alsamixer again
[08:15] <theknownunsoldie> Ferret, the possibilities finally seem worth the headaches of learning...
[08:15] <theknownunsoldie> Ferret, I'm going to fiddle with the sed command now, thanks alot for your help!
[08:16] <Ferret> xelados: Did you put Option in front of it?
[08:16] <cyphase> How can I create a text file that has all the data from all the text files in a certain directory and all it's children directory, recursively, without specifying all the file names?
[08:16] <melania> !alsamixer
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <melania> what is alsamixer?
[08:16] <Smoke2k> this should be simple
[08:16] <xelados> Ferret: Umm. >_>;;
[08:16] <zelrikriando> ok
[08:16] <h1st0> Anyone familiar with links2 i'm trying to run it in graphics mode and for some reason I need to be root t do that.
[08:16] <sethk> cyphase, sure
[08:16] <Smoke2k> but i kinda made wrong turn and didn't get live cd
[08:16] <Smoke2k> ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso is version i got and i am having problems with partitioning
[08:16] <Ferret> cyphase: cd somedir; find -print0 | xargs -0 cat >~/bigfatfile
[08:16] <LaughingSam> Ferret: I added a file with the single line KERNEL="tty1*", MODE="0660", GROUP="tty" but I still got no access :( The file number was lower than the one with the original line. Any web links you know with info about this directory? Tried some googling but nothing showed up immediately (and I'm an impatient kinda guy :) )
[08:16] <kyuuketsuki47> alsa is the linux sound driver, alsamixer is what allows you to control your sound
[08:16] <Ferret> cyphase: Uhh, that should be >> not >
[08:17] <cyphase> Ferret: thanx
[08:17] <Smoke2k> it would only auto set overlapping partitions and when i tried to set the 3 required it wouldn't write them and stuff
[08:17] <Ferret> cyphase: Actually I lie, either is fine
[08:17] <Smoke2k> this shouldn't be a problem could someone help me with it?
[08:17] <chris72> cyphase: use find and cat
[08:17] <jenda> So... can anyone give me a tip how to restore keyboard settings to default in Ubuntu? Or how to properly define my left Alt with xmodmap? Pleaaase! :)
[08:17] <cyphase> chris72: yea, i knew cat, i just didn't think to use find
[08:17] <Ferret> cyphase: Be careful not to create the big file in the directory you're concatenating files from.  That may eat your entire disk
[08:17] <mzfckr> hello
[08:17] <mzfckr> i need some advice
[08:18] <Seveas> jenda, get rid of .xmodmaprc and beware that gnome overrrides some X settings in system -> prefs -> keyboard
[08:18] <kyuuketsuki47> advice in regards to what?
[08:18] <PriceChild> jenda, I told you!!! :P
[08:18] <mzfckr> edgy didnt had support for my hardware, so i installed feisty beta
[08:18] <Ferret> LaughingSam: Did you reboot or restart udev?
[08:18] <mzfckr> everything is seem to working ok
[08:18] <LaughingSam> ferret: rebooted the whole thingy
[08:18] <mzfckr> but, when im moving some window
[08:18] <melania> ok i've got a big problem. when i start up ubuntu, i enter my username and password, then the screen goes blank and back to the username/password screen and it's a never ending cycle. can anyone help me?
[08:19] <mzfckr> or smth else
[08:19] <Ferret> LaughingSam: What does ls -l /dev/tty1 tell you now?
[08:19] <xelados> Ferret: What's the exact syntax of the line that I need to follow?
[08:19] <ompaul> mzfckr, go to #ubuntu+1 not here thanks
[08:19] <mzfckr> like viewing the webpage
[08:19] <mzfckr> hm
[08:19] <sethk> melania, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:19] <melania> k
[08:19] <FOAD> Hey
[08:19] <FOAD> Can I ask about Feisty issues here?
[08:19] <ompaul> no
[08:19] <jenda> Seveas: I have no .xmodmaprc , I have a .xmodmap, however, which is my own layout, and it doesn't touch the alt...
[08:19] <LaughingSam> crw-rw---- 1 root root (no tty-group there...)
[08:19] <ompaul> #ubuntu+1
[08:19] <FOAD> Ok.
[08:20] <FOAD> Thanks.
[08:20] <hydoskee> how can you see what packages you've installed?
[08:20] <Seveas> jenda, check the gnome thing then :)
[08:20] <jenda> Seveas: and sys>pref>key seems to have no effect :/
[08:20] <xelados> hydoskee: Check aptitude?
[08:20] <Pollywog_> melania: after you do as sethk suggested, restart kdm or xdm or gdm, whichever you have
[08:20] <xelados> hydoskee: Synaptic also allows you to check out which packages you have installed.
[08:20] <Seveas> jenda, in that case i'd really resort to a hammer
[08:20] <hydoskee> xelados: is there a command line way to do this using "apt"?
[08:20] <jenda> Seveas: any particular brand to recommend?
[08:20] <melania> that command didnt work in recovery mode
[08:21] <melania> :(
[08:21] <jenda> Seveas: and do I need sudo?
[08:21] <sethk> Pollywog_, no problem there, it's restarting for her every time she tries to log in.  :)
[08:21] <_awais> hi, has anyone installed asterisk on ubuntu ?
[08:21] <melania> which is the only thing i can get into
[08:21] <Seveas> jenda, as long as it's big .. :)
[08:21] <xelados> hydoskee: apt-get might have a command, but I'm not sure. aptitude works in the terminal, too.
[08:21] <Pollywog_> sethk: oh yeah, that's true
[08:21] <Dreamxtreme> can some1 give me the link to the howto install display drivers
[08:21] <PriceChild> jenda, Seveas what format is the .xmodmaprc one in? Isn't it possible to run through it to find any offending lines?
[08:21] <zelrikriando> ok alsamixer is now working
[08:21] <melania> the computer isn't restarting, it
[08:21] <melania> it's just taking be back to enter my username and password
[08:21] <jenda> PriceChild: there is no .xmodmaprc...
[08:22] <Seveas> PriceChild, xmodmap is black magic to me, no clue
[08:22] <MarcN> tuna-fish: congrats! That is what a partial linux crash looks like.
[08:22] <sethk> melania, yes, I know, that's gdm (or kdm) restarting
[08:22] <Pollywog_> melania: go into a console, can you do that?
[08:22] <edward> OK I just downloaded a game via bittorrent and I have a .run file now what do i do?
[08:22] <zelrikriando> so now my sound card issue~~~
[08:22] <PriceChild> lol ok :)
[08:22] <fetcher> melania: can you log in on a text console?
[08:22] <melania> i'm in recovery console i guess
[08:22] <Seveas> jenda, try a new user to find out whether it's related to your account or not
[08:22] <melania> does recovery console count?
[08:22] <tuna-fish> MarcN: i've been having problems with my mouse drivers, might that be it?
[08:22] <jenda> Seveas: k, brb
[08:23] <Pollywog_> melania: that should work
[08:23] <Dreamxtreme> can some1 give me the link to the howto install display drivers
[08:23] <melania> ok
[08:23] <kyuuketsuki47> try alsamixer one more time in terminal
[08:23] <zipper_> Anyone know of any good laptop specific apps? Like a APM batterywatch, touchpad control panel and so on... (For an Asus a6r)
[08:23] <melania> now what?
[08:23] <bullgard4> !mc
[08:23] <zelrikriando> how do I setup the alsamixer
[08:23] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[08:23] <edward> OK I just downloaded a game via bittorrent and I have a .run file now what do i do?
[08:23] <StoneNote> of all the 300 hoopla, the snarkiest review comment by far is: There is no evidence they opposed Leonidas' campaign, despite 300's subplot of Leonidas pursuing an illegal war to serve a higher good. For adolescents ready to graduate from the graphic novel to Ayn Rand, or vice-versa, the historical Leonidas would never suffice. They require a superman. http://www.thestar.com/article/190493
[08:23] <sethk> edward, run it?
[08:23] <zelrikriando> the alsamixer is working
[08:23] <Seveas> 
[08:23] <cyris> hey everyone. I'm backuping up my home directories but I want to leave out one directory, how would I go about doing that? this is how im backup up " tar czpf home-date.tar.gz /home " .
[08:23] <kyuuketsuki47> great
[08:23] <kyuuketsuki47> now, go right
[08:23] <Pollywog_> melania: what happened when you tried to reconfigure xorg?
[08:23] <edward> when I double click on it it opens a text editor
[08:23] <melania> that command didn't work at all
[08:23] <melania> said conflicting actions
[08:24] <kyuuketsuki47> all the way till you come across 'external speakers'
[08:24] <sethk> edward, then don't double click on it, run it.
[08:24] <zelrikriando> ok
[08:24] <bullgard4> !mc | bullgard4
[08:24] <imacoolkid> My xserver crashed when I manually edited it.  I did a reconfigure of xorg and it regenerated it and now I can log in, but I get the error unable to initialze HAL.  What?
[08:24] <xelados> Looks like I fixed my problem on my own. Thanks a lot!
[08:24] <kyuuketsuki47> it should be off
[08:24] <chrismhampson> I have an athlon XP processor which spikes to 100% load every few seconds in ubuntu without any apps running. Is this normal?
[08:24] <kyuuketsuki47> if it isnt hit m
[08:24] <zelrikriando> PC speak ?
[08:24] <sethk> melania, conflicting actions?  use sudo, make sure you spell it correctly:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:24] <edward> What makes you assume im more than a newb who would know how to run something the non obvious way?
[08:24] <melania> yeah i tried that :(
[08:24] <Pollywog_> melania before you try to reconfigure it again shut off kdm, gdm
[08:24] <sethk> chrismhampson, no
[08:24] <Pollywog_> with /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:25] <melania> ok wait it worked
[08:25] <Pollywog_> or gdm if that is what you use
[08:25] <melania> configuring that is
[08:25] <chris72> find /paht/to/dir -name *.txt -exec cat {} \; >> file.txt
[08:25] <Pollywog_> k
[08:25] <cyphase> Ferret: can you paste that command again? i accidentally closed the irc client..
[08:25] <cyris> how would i exclude /home/shares from this command : tar czpf home-backup.tar.gz /home
[08:25] <chrismhampson> sethk: I thought i had found an answer to the problem by installing the 386 kernel but after a reboot it is the same again
[08:25] <sethk> chrismhampson, odd.
[08:25] <Linuturk> I'm thinking of upgrading my Dapper server to Edgy. I am currently running a LAMP install, and a cacti install. what are the caveates of dist upgrading a server?
[08:25] <Pollywog_> melania: are you using an Nvidia card?
[08:25] <edward> How do I run it?
[08:25] <melania> intel
[08:25] <sethk> chrismhampson, you're sure it is booting the 386 kernel?  to check the obvious thing?
[08:25] <amortvigil> Hey is there a dreamweaver like html editor in ubuntu?
[08:26] <Pollywog_> melania: onboard video?
[08:26] <melania> i used the 915resolution hack
[08:26] <melania> yeah
[08:26] <Pollywog_> k
[08:26] <Pollywog_> that should make it easier
[08:26] <morrolan> Error installing libsdl1.2-dev - I get a message saying: Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or libglu-dev
[08:26] <Linuturk> amortvigil: go with bluefish, it isn't a wysiwyg, but it is the best thing out there. stay away from nvu
[08:26] <Linuturk> I'm thinking of upgrading my Dapper server to Edgy. I am currently running a LAMP install, and a cacti install. what are the caveates of dist upgrading a server?
[08:26] <amortvigil> linuturk dankje
[08:26] <TomaszD> hi, what would you recommend to manage an MTP device in stock ubuntu?
[08:26] <Get_A_Fix> !nvu
[08:26] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB
[08:26] <zelrikriando> kyuu ?
[08:26] <kyuuketsuki47> yes?
[08:27] <crdlb> TomaszD, what player?
[08:27] <Thug-N-Me> need help reading the mini sd card any idea how do i browser it ?
[08:27] <TomaszD> crdlb, creative zen v
[08:27] <edward> How do I run a run file
[08:27] <zelrikriando> where are the external speakers?
[08:27] <Ferret> cyphase: chris72 just gave basically the same command. ;)
[08:27] <kyuuketsuki47> in alsamixer
[08:27] <sethk> edward, in a terminal, do  chmod +x filename        then do     ./filename
[08:27] <chrismhampson> sethk: yep it is running 386
[08:27] <wolfeon> I'm trying to add a custom XCHM to my system
[08:27] <Askar> Is someone here good with gimp= =-O
[08:27] <zelrikriando> where
[08:27] <wolfeon> an anti-stupid xchm
[08:27] <kyuuketsuki47> it should be all 1 or 2 left from the far right
[08:28] <wolfeon> and it keeps trying to install the version on updates from the server
[08:28] <morrolan> Error installing libsdl1.2-dev - I get a message saying: Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or libglu-dev
[08:28] <cyphase> Ferret: oh, i see it.. ok, thanks
[08:28] <cyphase> chris72: thanks for that
[08:28] <wolfeon> I edited /etc/apt/preferences and I don't think it is working right
[08:28] <TomaszD> crdlb, gnomad2 doesn't detect it and I have no space on the root partition to compile a new version, or to compile banshee with mtp support like I usually do on my home computer
[08:28] <sethk> chrismhampson, the question, of course, is what is triggering the spike.  Not easy to discover.  There is a check for new media that runs every few seconds.  See if the spike coincides with the check.  You'll sometimes see a cdrom drive light flash when the check occurs.
[08:28] <wolfeon> Package: xchm
[08:28] <wolfeon> Pin: version *
[08:28] <wolfeon> Pin-Priority: -1
[08:28] <kyuuketsuki47> it should say 'external' in the terminal version of alsamixer
[08:28] <wolfeon> I tried version 1.9* as well
[08:28] <variant> Askar: not really an appropriate channel for that kind of questions (if you need help installing it or something)
[08:28] <zelrikriando> I have : stereo
[08:28] <zelrikriando> mix
[08:28] <zelrikriando> capture
[08:28] <zelrikriando> mono
[08:29] <zelrikriando> aux
[08:29] <zelrikriando> PC speaker
[08:29] <crdlb> TomaszD, you need something that uses libmpd, and I don't think that is in ubuntu's repos
[08:29] <edward> edward@edward-desktop:~$ chmod +x/home/edward/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[08:29] <edward> chmod: missing operand after `+x/home/edward/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run'
[08:29] <edward> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[08:29] <nalioth> Thug-N-Me: open your nautilus and click on "Go" > "Computer"
[08:29] <crdlb> TomaszD, limtp*
[08:29] <hydoskee> I'm having some trouble installing pptp-linux http://pastebin.ca/395050
[08:29] <Thug-N-Me> nalioth im there
[08:29] <LaughingSam> Ferret: I changed the file to a number *higher* than the original! Now tty1 belongs to the group tty!
[08:29] <Thug-N-Me> nalioth comter its on my desktop
[08:29] <JohnPhys> edward:  put a space between "+x" and the rest
[08:29] <TomaszD> crdlb, libmtp5 is installed, but I'm afraid gnomad2 isn't compiled against it by default :( it only tries to detect pde devices
[08:30] <kyuuketsuki47> thats it for alsamixer?
[08:30] <Smoke2k> can someone help
[08:30] <nalioth> Thug-N-Me: click "Go" > "Computer" and you should see the card listed there
[08:30] <kyuuketsuki47> what card are you using?
[08:30] <Smoke2k> i am sure this is a small trivial problem
[08:30] <Smoke2k> i wish someone would take a lil moment to help me
[08:30] <morrolan> Installed XGL and need to go back, as it is causing problems with SDL1.2 and various other things.  Tried installing Ubuntu-Desktop package, but it refuses because it relies on xorg?
[08:30] <shwag> does ubuntu need a daylight savingtime patch ?
[08:30] <bintara> !ntfs
[08:30] <TomaszD> crdlb, wouldn't be asking it if I had space for *-dev dependencies, but it seems that mtp support in a stock install is non-existant
[08:30] <Thug-N-Me> nalioth it aint listed man
[08:30] <wolfeon> nevermind I'll just rename it :))
[08:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:30] <terapicodave> just installed sendmail but cannot run the command 'mail' what must i install to get the 'mail' command to work?
[08:31] <wolfeon> gee, this channel is crawling with noobs
[08:31] <bintara> !ntfs-3g
[08:31] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:31] <nalioth> Thug-N-Me: then either your card reader or the memory device is not working
[08:31] <zelrikriando> analogue device AD1986A
[08:31] <hassan> salam all
[08:31] <morrolan> wolfeon - what is your problem?
[08:31] <Thug-N-Me> nalioth  nice one ... problem solved :) thanks
[08:31] <I3ooI3oo_werking> why woleon ?
[08:31] <morrolan> Installed XGL and need to go back, as it is causing problems with SDL1.2 and various other things.  Tried installing Ubuntu-Desktop package, but it refuses because it relies on xorg, but xorg is installed?
[08:31] <wolfeon> morrolan: I don't have a problem anymore, I solved it by renaming the package
[08:32] <wolfeon> well , the package name which the deb thinks it is :)
[08:32] <melania> how can i restart gdm in recovery console?
[08:32] <morrolan> wolfeon well done then! :)
[08:32] <hassan> koye hai keya
[08:32] <wolfeon> morrolan: I was trying to get preferences to work in apt
[08:32] <edward> edward@edward-desktop:~$ chmod +x /home/edward/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[08:32] <edward> edward@edward-desktop:~$ ./home/edward/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[08:32] <edward> bash: ./home/edward/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run: No such file or directory
[08:32] <edward> edward@edward-desktop:~$ bash: ./home/edward/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run: No such file or directory
[08:32] <edward> bash: bash:: command not found
[08:32] <xelados> melania: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[08:32] <morrolan> melania does killall gdm not work?
[08:32] <PriceChild> !paste | edward
[08:32] <ubotu> edward: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:32] <JohnPhys> melania : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:32] <melania> k thanks
[08:32] <panfist> can anyone help me figure out why i cant log on with an xgl session but can with GNOME default after i tried to configure ATI dual head? thanks
[08:32] <TomaszD> melania, just type exit and you'll come back to gdm if you're in the recover console chosen in the gdm
[08:33] <shwag> !DST
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <Pollywog> daylight saving time?
[08:33] <jenda> Seveas: after applying what you recommended... well, my LCD doesn't work as it should
[08:33] <variant> panfist: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[08:33] <morrolan> Installed XGL and need to go back, as it is causing problems with SDL1.2 and various other things.  Tried installing Ubuntu-Desktop package, but it refuses because it relies on xorg, but xorg is installed?
[08:33] <panfist> variant, thanks
[08:33] <melania> what windows program can you use to look at ext3 formatted partitions?
[08:33] <hassan> 00923343346972call me
[08:33] <terapicodave> solved my own problem....mailx is the package that gives us the mail command
[08:33] <TomaszD> melania, ext2fs
[08:33] <melania> ok thanks
[08:34] <variant> melania: extifs
[08:34] <Pollywog> variant: you can do that in Windows?
[08:34] <variant> Pollywog: yes
[08:34] <fyrmedic> .
[08:34] <Pollywog> variant: I did not know
[08:34] <sdac1> does anyone know which file stores the login manager that runs on startup.  I accidently changed to "Chooser", i want to return the normal ubuntu login manager (think its called gdm)
[08:34] <morrolan> Installed XGL and need to go back, as it is causing problems with SDL1.2 and various other things.  Tried installing Ubuntu-Desktop package, but it refuses because it relies on xorg, but xorg is installed?
[08:34] <TomaszD> Pollywog, full read/write. :)
[08:34] <brum> edward: try /home/edward/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[08:34] <fyrmedic> What is the equivalent of this "/dev/ttyUSB0"?
[08:34] <Pollywog> did this come from MS?
[08:34] <variant> Pollywog: melania: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[08:35] <variant> Pollywog: certainly not
[08:35] <edward> thx will do
[08:35] <TomaszD> fyrmedic, what do you mean? it's one of the usb ports in your computer
[08:36] <hydoskee> so has anyone had any experience installing a PPTP connection?
[08:36] <edward> yay its doing sonmehting thx
[08:36] <colbert> I want to add a scheduled task to run a OpenOffice spreadsheet file every night, what would the command be ???
[08:36] <fyrmedic> TomaszD; Ok it doesn't seem to like that string. I am trying to set up some GPS stuff and don't know which /dev/ to use to open the data stream.
[08:36] <TomaszD> colbert, can't give you the exact command, but look into cron
[08:37] <morrolan> Installed XGL and need to go back, as it is causing problems with SDL1.2 and various other things.  Tried installing Ubuntu-Desktop package, but it refuses because it relies on xorg, but xorg is installed?
[08:37] <colbert> TomaszD: I did, it appears cron can't be used for it
[08:38] <fyrmedic> TomaszD: and that isn't listed in the /dev file so I thought it was bad.
[08:38] <edward> How do I give the install app write permission?
[08:38] <dromer> does anybody know how I can fullscreen vlc on my tv? all other apps work fine if I just drag it there and fullscreen then, but vlc keeps going to the main screen
[08:38] <TomaszD> fyrmedic, it's usually /dev/usbdev*
[08:38] <Get_A_Fix> Good day all, about to attempt to add a second video card and monitor to a 6.06 install, is there anything I should do first ?
[08:39] <edward> How do I give the install app write permission?
[08:39] <TomaszD> dromer, need to change the video overlay to the secondary screen
[08:39] <dromer> TomaszD: where do I do this?
[08:39] <TomaszD> dromer, depends on what graphics card you have
[08:39] <dromer> nvidia geforce2 mx :)
[08:40] <variant> edward: please explain what you are trying to do
[08:40] <StoneNote> colbert, to me "run a OpenOfiice spreadsheet" doesn't mean much more then "open a OpenOffice spreadsheet" in relation to cron unless it contains some macros that autorun when the spreadsheet is opened.  If that is the case I'd be interested to know how you have the spreadsheet know when I want it to autorun and when I just want to look at the results inside.
[08:40] <TomaszD> oh boy, no, no help here, I'm an unfortunate ATI user
[08:40] <dromer> hehe
[08:40] <TomaszD> dromer, search in google about nvidia linux overlay
[08:40] <edward> Im installing a game and it is asking for an install dir and when I give it one it says that it has no write permission
[08:40] <dromer> ok, thnx
[08:40] <dromer> weird is all other apps work just fine :S
[08:40] <dromer> but I want to use vlc for most video-stuff
[08:41] <TomaszD> dromer, you have one hardware video overlay only, so only one screen at a time can use it
[08:41] <variant> edward: select a dir under your home directory
[08:41] <derrik> anyone running feisty fawn have their xserver break today?
[08:41] <edward> ok ty
[08:41] <variant> derrik: nope
[08:41] <morrolan> Installed XGL and need to go back, as it is causing problems with SDL1.2 and various other things.  Tried installing Ubuntu-Desktop package, but it refuses because it relies on xorg, but xorg is installed?
[08:41] <variant> derrik: and check #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <colbert> StoneNote: Sorry, I just googled and saw some forums posts saying cron couldn't run a GUI app.. perhaps incorrect.. nonetheless I can't find any command on how to execute the file (.xls file) ??
[08:41] <derrik> variant: thanks
[08:41] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, man you there?
[08:42] <dromer> TomaszD: I don't think it's the overlay, since nvidia-driver seems to put that on screen 0 or 1 but I have only 1 screen-section and am using twinview-mode to extend my desktop, this does not bother other aplications, only vlc specifically
[08:42] <StoneNote> colbert, the .xls contains data and macros.  just setting up OpenOffice to launch the spreadsheet won't do much, except have that spreadsheet open on your desktop when you come into the office in the morning.  I don't see the point.
[08:43] <database> What is a good basic command-line text editor?
[08:43] <dromer> database: vim :] 
[08:43] <TomaszD> dromer, could be a vlc problem or some kind, don't know really, do any other players work?
[08:43] <database> dromer: Thank you.
[08:43] <TomaszD> database, no, don't use vim if you don't know what it is, I propose nano for beginners
[08:43] <dromer> TomaszD: yes, that's what I mean with "apps", othe video-players, like mplayer, but I like to use vlc for most stuff, since it can handle the widest variety of codecs etc
[08:44] <dromer> TomaszD: or vi ;)
[08:44] <colbert> StoneNote: Well unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, that's what I want.. I want the file to open, it's really an accountability file with my goal having it open every night at like 11pm so I don't forget to input data daily.
[08:44] <edward> Well thanks all making progress
[08:44] <database> TomaszD: I am not a noob, if that's what you're implying.
[08:44] <TomaszD> ahh, so it's surely the overlay, the extended desktop is still two desktops
[08:44] <kingking> when is the next version of ubuntu releasing
[08:44] <StoneNote> O_O
[08:44] <PriceChild> kingking, 7.04 - april
[08:44] <dromer> kingking: I believe the next test-version is coming very soon :)
[08:44] <TomaszD> database, so use vim and be done with it. You'll regret it.
[08:44] <database> TomaszD: Explain?
[08:44] <rambo3> how do i install this discscanner.exe that i got from a popup window ?
[08:44] <dromer> hehe
[08:44] <kingking> oh ok
[08:45] <TomaszD> database, try it. You'll see. You won't know how to exit it, let alone do anything.
[08:45] <genii> rambo3 you don't
[08:45] <liri> any information on adding RAID1 support to an already existing ubuntu 6.06 installation?
[08:45] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : get anything for me ?
[08:46] <Akuma> if i'm being told to go the the root directory of the sources... how do i find out what directory that is? i'm trying to build virtualbox
[08:46] <database> Hm.
[08:46] <database> What's the command to restart GDM, again?
[08:46] <PriceChild> database, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:46] <database> Thank you.
[08:47] <dromer> database: just read man vim before anything ;)
[08:47] <database> dromer: Probably a good idea.
[08:47] <genii> rwxr-xr--: I just got home and back online. A truck ripped out all our fibreoptic and PRI lines from the side of the bldg with its sideview mirror
[08:47] <SGorillaaaa> how do i make opera my default web browser?
[08:47] <Jetfighter> This is #ubuntu?
[08:48] <TomaszD> SGorillaaaa,  System -> Preferences -> Preferred applications
[08:48] <database> Jetfighter: Indeed.
[08:48] <SGorillaaaa> thankyou
[08:48] <Jetfighter> Ok, sorry, this thing got messed
[08:48] <SGorillaaaa> linux poeple are kind :)
[08:48] <genii> rwxr-xr--: So short answer is no LOL
[08:48] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : ya at time i wait ya alot.. but after that my service going down :<
[08:48] <TomaszD> :)
[08:49] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : dont know what error is saying?
[08:49] <rambo3> SGorillaaaa, yeah that changed in last 3 years
[08:49] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : i pasted ya some lines
[08:49] <database> Ha.
[08:49] <database> Whoever said I couldn't exit it...was wrong.
[08:49] <genii> rwxr-xr--: Those ones frombefore or different?
[08:49] <evo_> the Jmicron support is still broken in 2.6.20-10 for me, it seems. anyone know what the status is with this?
[08:49] <SGorillaaaa> well it's a good thing people help, because i can't be bothered to pirate windows after ubuntu deleted ut
[08:50] <database> ^Z, or however you Linux folk put it, FTW.
[08:50] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : same when i try to open it from terminal
[08:50] <PriceChild> evo_, #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[08:50] <evo_> thanke Price
[08:50] <genii> rwxr-xr--: Yeah,no idea on it
[08:50] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : nevamind m8 thanks for all :)
[08:51] <Get_A_Fix> I need a little help with a video card install in 6.06 please ?
[08:51] <sanityx> hey anybody happen to know the url for any of the efnet irc servers?
[08:51] <genii> rwxr-xr--: I'll keep an eye open for anything like that
[08:51] <irunwithscissors> get_a_fix, what card
[08:51] <database> Done and dusted. Thanks, everybody.
[08:51] <rwxr-xr--> genii,  :) sure
[08:51] <morrolan> Installed XGL and need to go back, as it is causing problems with SDL1.2 and various other things.  Tried installing Ubuntu-Desktop package, but it refuses because it relies on xorg, but xorg is installed?
[08:52] <Get_A_Fix>  irunwithscissors: I want to add a second card, a pci one, is Ubuntu simply plug n play ?
[08:52] <Spec> Get_A_Fix: what type of pci card?
[08:52] <irunwithscissors> g_a_f: it was for me, what is the new card's model?
[08:53] <TomaszD> morrolan, try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:53] <camero1> Could somebody shoot me the link for wiki help please?
[08:53] <Get_A_Fix>  irunwithscissors: running a nvidea 128 agp want to add a nvidia pci 64
[08:53] <camero1> !wifi
[08:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:53] <Spec> you want to use both video cards at the same time?
[08:53] <TheVault> I'm not sure if this is allowed me be asked here but do you guys know of a good gameboy advance emulator for Linux?
[08:54] <Spec> TheVault: VirtualBoy i think
[08:54] <Spec> !info virtualboy
[08:54] <ubotu> Package virtualboy does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[08:54] <Spec> err, gameboy *advance*, nevermind
[08:54] <TheVault> virtualboy supports linux?
[08:54] <Spec> Hmmm, I can't recall ever seeing a GBA emulator for linux :-/
[08:54] <Get_A_Fix> yes, i want to display two apps at the same time, one on each
[08:54] <rambo3> TheVault, http://www.xe-emulator.com/
[08:54] <TomaszD> TheVault, VisualBoyAdvance
[08:54] <TheVault> Thanks
[08:55] <xelados> Is there a way to access my webcam? It's hooked up and I see its green light on. Any packages I can use to work with it?
[08:55] <TomaszD> TheVault, and the question is ok as long as you don't ask about getting the ROMs :)
[08:55] <rambo3> TheVault, this one too http://m.peponas.free.fr/gngb/index.html
[08:55] <TomaszD> xelados, tried ekiga for example?
[08:55] <TheVault> TomaszD: Nope, got plenty of those
[08:55] <EADG>  TheVault www.emulinks.de
[08:55] <soundray> Get_A_Fix: ubotu has two pieces of info - pls read PMs
[08:55] <xelados> Nope, not yet.
[08:55] <soundray> !dualhead > Get_A_Fix
[08:55] <dromer> ok, so, another problem I still have with twinview is my tv-screen is off to the left by about 1 inch, how could I correct this?
[08:55] <TheVault> I know where to get da roms
[08:55] <soundray> !xinerama > Get_A_Fix
[08:56] <Jetfighter> I want to install build-essential but it says insert a disk..
[08:56] <dromer> !dualhead | Get_A_Fix
[08:56] <ubotu> Get_A_Fix: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:56] <soundray> xelados: a basic one would be xawtv
[08:56] <TheVault> Thanks guys for the help :)
[08:56] <dromer> soundray: or does > make it pm ?
[08:56] <rambo3> Jetfighter, remove cd rom and add internet repos
[08:56] <soundray> dromer: ye
[08:56] <soundray> dromer: yes
[08:56] <dromer> ok, :)
[08:56] <Jetfighter> Hug?
[08:56] <Jetfighter> Huh, rambo3 ?
[08:56] <soundray> !goodbotuse > dromer
[08:56] <morrolan> Error installing libsdl1.2-dev - I get a message saying: Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or libglu-dev
[08:56] <soundray> ;)
[08:57] <Get_A_Fix> many thanks guys
[08:57] <rambo3> !synaptic > Jetfighter
[08:57] <Jetfighter> I know about Package Manager
[08:58] <Aspire> I get a nvidia kernel error, I crashed my gnome. rebooted and got the evil blue screen of x server to work. any quick fix?
[08:58] <soundray> Jetfighter: find the repositories menu in synaptic and disable the CD as package source
[08:58] <nicko1> Hi, i have a router on my desktop running ubuntu, used for my laptop wireless, however i noticed that if i start ubuntu 6.10 with the router off and then turn it on when ubuntu is already running..the router is not 'detected' so it wont work until i reboot (not logout!) ..can anyboy help??
[08:58] <TomaszD> xelados, or just install and run xawtv
[08:59] <soundray> Aspire: can you log in on the console?
[08:59] <PirateHead> necko1: there ought to be a way to restart something, but I don't know what that thing would be. =D
[08:59] <xelados> How do I remount my webcam? or access it?
[08:59] <xelados> Its light is off now
[08:59] <xelados> and I have xawtv installed
[08:59] <PirateHead> xelados: did you try unplugging and replugging?
[08:59] <Aspire> soundray: ya I'm gonna try and use the backup right now
[08:59] <xelados> PirateHead: not yet. I'll give it a shot.
[09:00] <PirateHead> xelados: not the best solution, but it gives you somewhere to start.
[09:00] <soundray> nicko1: probably just 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' on ubuntu
[09:00] <xelados> PirateHead: alright, light's back on
[09:00] <PirateHead> xelados: that's good to hear. It means things aren't failing too badly.
[09:00] <cyphase> Ferret, chris72: do either of you know how to do what i said before, but skip the *files* (not child directories) in a certain directory?
[09:00] <soundray> Aspire: make sure you've got the latest linux-image-generic and linux-restricted-modules packages
[09:00] <kingking> is ubuntu better than windows?
[09:00] <TomaszD> nicko1, this problem will disappear in Ubuntu 7.04 as the network connection will be automatically picked up, for now just don't turn the router off
[09:00] <cyphase> kingking: yes
[09:00] <kingking> why?
[09:01] <nicko1> TomaszD: ok thanks
[09:01] <soundray> kingking: see cyphase ^^, but nobody knows for sure
[09:01] <xelados> Whenever I run xawtv, I get this output and my webcam's light goes off.
[09:01] <ctech21> hi
[09:01] <Jetfighter> kingking, a pile of dog poop is better than Windows...
[09:01] <ctech21> hi
[09:01] <xelados> !pastebin
[09:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:01] <Aspire> soundray: the system for nvidia was working great till I switched users and didnt switch.
[09:01] <xelados> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10386/
[09:01] <kingking> is it
[09:01] <slacker_nl> kingking: yes ubuntu kicks Windows ass
[09:01] <pdxmitch> I downloaded the Ubuntu Desktop ISO and told my BIOS to boot from CD, but it still boots from the HD.  If I tell my BIOS to boot from a floppy, it will boot from the floppy.  Not sure what to do.
[09:01] <soundray> Aspire: can you rephrase that please
[09:01] <PirateHead> kingking: it is for many applications, but windows is better than Ubuntu for others.
[09:02] <xelados> I assume /dev/video0 is my webcam
[09:02] <PirateHead> kingking: we can give you more information if you
[09:02] <nicko1> i have 2 more questions.. what is the best dock (like osx) for ubuntu without installing beryl,xlg, or other since i have low graphix? thanks
[09:02] <kingking> in what ways it outscores windows
[09:02] <PirateHead> kingking: we can give you more information if you're interested in a certian aspect, such as networking, comptuer development, gaming, etc.
[09:02] <kingking> ok why not
[09:02] <TomaszD> xelados, weird but your root partition might be 100% full
[09:02] <slacker_nl> kingking: its free, you can tweak it better, more choices between windowmanagers
[09:02] <xelados> lmao
[09:02] <TheVault> Question. When i enter the su command, and I input my password as I do with sudo, says authentication failed. Do I make to make a new password or something for the su command?
[09:02] <dromer> nicko1: "dock" ?
[09:02] <jazzman> Anyone getting a "NMI received. Dazed and confused" error while running 3D application (like open GL screensaver or Beryl)?
[09:02] <dromer> nicko1: do you mean window manager?
[09:03] <xethx> how do i uninstall a program that i installed using wine?
[09:03] <xelados> TomaszD: my hard drive is 250 gB and I'm only using 6.8 of it
[09:03] <PirateHead> kingking: It is more memory-efficient than windows, it uses a better file system so you never have to defragment, it is mostly immune to viruses (read: there has never been a Linux virus in the wild), and igt is very easy ot maintain with frequent updates and security fixes.
[09:03] <ubuntu> hello all
[09:03] <soundray> TheVault: please don't use su, ubuntu is designed to be used with sudo
[09:03] <TheVault> soundray: Alrighty I won't mess with it then
[09:03] <slacker_nl> kingking: free office applications, the livecd, based on debian, vista like behaviour with beryl, but without having to purchase a expensive pc
[09:03] <TomaszD> xelados, so it's a bug probably. Search google with the name of your webcam and add linux to the query, should be helpful
[09:03] <Aspire> soundray: I installed the nvidia drivers just fine, I was loging off from one user to another, screen went black, so I hit the ctrl-alt-backspace, notthing happened, rebooted got the blue screen. I just now tried a backup file and still. it's not working
[09:03] <xelados> TomaszD: Will do.
[09:03] <pdxmitch> I downloaded the Ubuntu Desktop ISO, burned it to a CD, and told my BIOS to boot from CD, but it still boots from the HD.  If I tell my BIOS to boot from a floppy, it will boot from the floppy.  Not sure what to do.
[09:03] <PirateHead> kingking: the primary reasons to choose Windows over Ubuntu are: DVD playback, 3D gaming, and iTunes.
[09:03] <slacker_nl> kingking: and you can do everything you want with ubuntu just like you can with windows..
[09:04] <biscuitdunker> hello :-)
[09:04] <soundray> TheVault: to use su, you would have to unlock the root account, which opens a security hole.
[09:04] <slacker_nl> PirateHead: DVD playback is fine under Ubuntu
[09:04] <soundray> TheVault: have you tried sudo -i ?
[09:04] <dromer> PirateHead: what's wrong with linux-dvd-playback?
[09:04] <rambo3> !md5 |pdxmitch
[09:04] <ubotu> pdxmitch: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:04] <PirateHead> slacker_nl: Not under my Ubuntu. Encrypted DVDs won't play.
[09:04] <soundray> slacker_nl: I'm back on the subject here as you can see ;)
[09:04] <database> How would you reverse the screens in an X server? So a screen outputs to one monitor instead of the other, and vice versa.
[09:04] <pdxmitch> rambo3: I can play the CD in Windows, so I think it's ok.
[09:04] <roop> When I try to run something with wine and the terminal just says "exename: shock2.exe"  twice what do I do?
[09:04] <TheVault> lemme try sudo -i
[09:04] <genii> .msg ubotu hello
[09:04] <genii> bah
[09:04] <sethk> roop, cry?
[09:05] <slacker_nl> PirateHead: I have no problems (at least i don't know if I have encrypted DVD's)
[09:05] <database> I need my primary screen to output to my secondary monitor, to be odd.
[09:05] <slacker_nl> soundray: lol
[09:05] <kingking> oh i c
[09:05] <Ferret> cyphase: personally I'd just temporarily move that directory out of the way to do that
[09:05] <sethk> roop, obviously your wine setup isn't quite right yet
[09:05] <TheVault> YAY it works
[09:05] <slacker_nl> soundray: /me is keeping his mouth shut ;0
[09:05] <slacker_nl> ;)
[09:05] <biscuitdunker> slow down i cant read this :(
[09:05] <TheVault> soundray: Thanks
[09:05] <PirateHead> kingking: is that useful information? Are you interested in anything more specific?
[09:05] <pdxmitch> But all it does if I play it in Windows is let me run Firefox, etc.
[09:05] <nicko1> dromer: no, the launch bar usually at the bottom of the desktop
[09:05] <Ferret> cyphase: You can do something like find /path/to/dir ! -name 'ExcludeMePlease -exec ....
[09:05] <kingking> how abt stability
[09:05] <dromer> nicko1: oh ok
[09:05] <cyphase> Ferret: for one.. but i need to do it a lot. it needs to be automatic
[09:05] <Linux_Junkie> kingking: just try it out, nothing beats first ahnd experience.
[09:06] <Ferret> cyphase: Uh, I mean -name 'ExcludeMe'
[09:06] <Get_A_Fix> soundray: thanks, that's exactly what I needed, cheers.
[09:06] <slacker_nl> kingking: ubuntu is more stable then windows, but why not give it a try?
[09:06] <jazzman> fglrx causing nmi error dazed and confused anyone?
[09:06] <cyphase> hmm
[09:06] <TomaszD> kingking, you can run it off the cd as a live session, no need to install it if you don't want to
[09:06] <PirateHead> kingking: it is easy to find unstable packages in Linux because there is lots of experimental software available. However, if you stick to a well-known distribution (like Ubuntu) and don't install wierd and crazy things, you will find that Linux is very stable.
[09:06] <dromer> database: I think you need to name the screens and reverse the leftof to rightof or vice-versa, but I'm not sure
[09:06] <biscuitdunker> can anyone help this new user to ubuntu;; i have porblems
[09:06] <soundray> Get_A_Fix: hope you can get it going
[09:06] <kronoman> hi
[09:06] <morrolan> How can I force-install an older package that 1 already installed?  Is it possible to copy and rename a package?
[09:06] <Linux_Junkie> heh actually most widely used svn's are pretty stable.
[09:07] <xelados> TomaszD: Hmm, Google didn't help me at all. It's an HP PP136AA#ABA.
[09:07] <kronoman> I just formatted my hard disk, and the partition program reports 1 gb used
[09:07] <kronoman> what is wrong/
[09:07] <melania> anyone know how to mount a drive on an ubuntu live cd?
[09:07] <kingking> wonderful
[09:07] <kronoman> as ext3
[09:07] <nicko1> anyone use any docks (launcherbar) without the use of beyl,xgl,etc..??
[09:07] <sethk> melania, what kind of drive?  what file system?
[09:07] <Linux_Junkie> melania; mount -t <fs type> source destination.
[09:07] <melania> ext3
[09:07] <PirateHead> kingking: I have been using Ubuntu for a couple years and my laptop has never crashed; before, this same laptop had Windows on it and it had crashed a couple times. That's just my experience, but it has been echoed by many others.
[09:07] <rambo3> pdxmitch, well you need to close burning session to get it to boot . does it boot other CD -s
[09:07] <TomaszD> xelados, try without the weird hash signs and numbers at the very end
[09:07] <soundray> biscuitdunker: describe your problems, one at a time, give some detail
[09:07] <slacker_nl> melania: man mount (mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt for example)
[09:07] <Get_A_Fix> soundray: I'll let you know.
[09:08] <melania> ok i;ll try that
[09:08] <Linux_Junkie> melania: mkdir /mnt/tmp && mount /dev/*  /mnt/tmp
[09:08] <TheVault> soundray: So when I do the sudo -i command, I don't have to constantly do the sudo for each command that I wanna give?
[09:08] <TomaszD> kronoman, are you using a laptop computer? some have hidden partitions with recovery software
[09:08] <soundray> TheVault: exactly
[09:08] <slacker_nl> TheVault: no, you then have a rootshell
[09:08] <sethk> TheVault, right
[09:08] <biscuitdunker> i just installed buntu and i cant raise my resolution higher than 800x600?? do i need to install ATI drivers myself??
[09:08] <slacker_nl> (soundray, looky me ;))
[09:08] <sethk> TheVault, so you can pretend you don't have su, and still have it.
[09:08] <Linux_Junkie> melina the * was meant so you put your device in there.
[09:09] <kronoman> TomaszD: no, is a IDE disk
[09:09] <sethk> biscuitdunker, possibly.  possibly it's misidentified your monitor and thinks it can't do more than 8x6.  there are several possibilities
[09:09] <TheVault> so when I do the sudo -i, instead of the sudo rm pathtofile name, I simple would do rm pathtofile
[09:09] <slacker_nl> yes
[09:09] <rambo3> biscuitdunker, it should for with ati driver you have now asj ubotu : fixres
[09:09] <___drunken> hi everyone. I have a little problem with feisty. Usplash doesn't show up most of the time. The text-boot messages stop with a message like "pci quirk....". then nothing happens and after some time, the gdm greeter appers. anyone who can help me to track down this problem?"
[09:09] <PirateHead> @all: is there a difference between running sudo -i and sudo su?
[09:09] <TomaszD> kronoman, what do you mean? both IDE and SATA drives are used in laptops. Maybe you mean an external drive?
[09:09] <TheVault> PirateHead: Yeah, I would guess so
[09:09] <LjL> PirateHead: yes, "sudo -i" is, if anything, equivalent to "sudo su -", not "sudo su"
[09:10] <PirateHead> !feisty | ___drunken
[09:10] <soundray> biscuitdunker: before you go for the binary ATI driver, try ubotu's advice (you'll get a pm)
[09:10] <ubotu> ___drunken: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:10] <soundray> !fixres > biscuitdunker
[09:10] <biscuitdunker> th ank you
[09:10] <melania> argh it says only root can do that
[09:10] <biscuitdunker> :-)
[09:10] <LjL> PirateHead: also, it doesn't make much sense to chain *two* commands that, basically, do the same thing (i.e. switch user)... just use "sudo -i", since that's what it's made for
[09:10] <melania> i am using root though
[09:10] <melania> err sudo
[09:10] <TheVault> Thanks guys for explaining the difference
[09:10] <sethk> melania, paste the exact command you used
[09:10] <PirateHead> LJL: I have been using simply "sudo su" for quite awhile. Is there any problem with that approach?
[09:10] <jim> Hi, just got a IDE to USB adaptor.  I can see the hard disk connected to this in XP. However I can't find it anywhere in Linux. I am running Xubuntu. Thanks in advance!
[09:10] <kronoman> TomaszD: a IDE disk that I just got today, OEM, for my desktop PC
[09:11] <melania> sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/tmp
[09:11] <naxxramas> What IRC clients are you guys using?
[09:11] <___drunken> piratehead is there a different irc channel for feisty?
[09:11] <soundray> PirateHead: there could be. Compare 'echo ~' under sudo -i versus sudo su
[09:11] <jim> Xchat
[09:11] <Linux_Junkie> melania: that should work.
[09:11] <CheshireViking> !fiesty
[09:11] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:11] <PirateHead> ___drunken: #ubuntu+1 ought to work
[09:11] <slacker_nl> Linux_Junkie: no it should not
[09:11] <Linux_Junkie> err wait no sudo doesn't apply to the second half
[09:11] <___drunken> piratehead thx
[09:11] <melania> yeah it's just saying "mount: only root can do that"
[09:11] <PirateHead> ___drunken: no problem.
[09:11] <slacker_nl> medfly: you have to supply sudo to the mount as well
[09:11] <LjL> PirateHead: well, there is the same problem you can have with "sudo -s" (as opposed to "sudo -i"): the environment (shell variables, current dir etc) don't get updated to the root ones, but remain your own.
[09:11] <Linux_Junkie> melania; Just sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/tmp
[09:11] <slacker_nl> melania: see ^^^
[09:11] <PirateHead> melania: type "sudo" before your mount command
[09:11] <medfly> slacker_nl, ?
[09:11] <bratsche> Hi.  Is there a good resource that describes how to make an updated DEB file?  I want to take an existing one from Universe and use a newer version of the original source, but I'm not sure where to begin with that.
[09:11] <melania> ok
[09:12] <TomaszD> kronoman, oh then I don't know. does it really report used space or maybe you're misguided by the fact that manufacturers misrepresent the actual capacity of their drives?
[09:12] <slacker_nl> medfly: me<tab> error :)
[09:12] <medfly> oh, okay :-)
[09:12] <medfly> better leave.
[09:12] <kronoman> TomaszD: I'm checking it for badblocks, that may be the cause
[09:12] <TomaszD> kronoman, could be
[09:12] <N3WB> "ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system. Please install your distributions libc deelopment package" (nVidia Driver Install)
[09:12] <PirateHead> LJL: Usually, I want that behaviour. I dont' want my environment variables or current directory to change on me.
[09:12] <PirateHead> LJL: it's nice to know the difference, though.
[09:12] <Jetfighter> Where is /usr/local/etc ?
[09:13] <PirateHead> Jetfighter: ...      ...    it's at /usr/local/etc
[09:13] <melania> ok it worked but is there a way i can access it and see all the files on it?
[09:13] <PriceChild> !away > Prognatus
[09:13] <Jetfighter> Where is that!
[09:13] <UpperNinety89> I'm having a big problem with my Ubuntu
[09:13] <slacker_nl> Jetfighter: cd /usr...
[09:13] <LjL> PirateHead: well that's your choice of course, but generally speaking it's obviously less secure. though it's unlikely to make too much of a difference on a normal desktop system.
[09:13] <ikonia> Jetfighter: don't start this again
[09:13] <UpperNinety89> I can't get to the login GUI
[09:13] <ikonia> Jetfighter: its in /usr/local
[09:13] <soundray> bratsche: first, check if there's an updated package in feisty. If there is, you can 'apt-get source' it and do your very own backport.
[09:13] <Jetfighter> I need it in the folders, not a Terminal
[09:13] <ikonia> its still in /usr/local
[09:13] <bratsche> soundray: There is not.  I already checked.
[09:13] <ikonia> as well you know
[09:14] <database> How would one kill the X Server?
[09:14] <N3WB> "ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system. Please install your distributions libc deelopment package" (nVidia Driver Install)
[09:14] <Prognatus> PriceChild, yopu called? :)
[09:14] <morrolan> Is it possible to replace a newer package with an older one, or install both?
[09:14] <PirateHead> Jetfighter: hit alt + F2, then type: nautilus /usr/local/etc
[09:14] <PriceChild> Prognatus, pm from ubotu ;)
[09:14] <sethk> N3WB, this is really difficult ... you have to install your distribution's libc development package
[09:14] <UpperNinety89> Can someone help me? lol
[09:14] <Jetfighter> In what?
[09:14] <melania> linuxjunkie: is there a way i can look at all the files on it now?
[09:14] <PirateHead> Jetfighter: things in the folders are at the same places as they are in the terminal. Nothing moves.
[09:14] <Prognatus> PriceChild, Ok. Thanks.
[09:14] <LjL> Jetfighter: just type it
[09:14] <slacker_nl> database: cat /etc/X11/default-something manager and then from there, /etc/init.d/gdm (or kdm or xdm) stop
[09:14] <PirateHead> !help | UpperNinety89
[09:14] <ubotu> UpperNinety89: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:14] <ernz> Hi people. Stupid question with genuine reason for asking: How can I lock the positioning of the desktop shortcuts in Ubuntu - Is there an option in gconf-editor or something?
[09:14] <soundray> bratsche: in that case, the best way is probably to apt-get the source anyway, unpack the updated source in the same directory and hope that the patch applies to the update.
[09:15] <PirateHead> !ask | UpperNinety89
[09:15] <ubotu> UpperNinety89: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:15] <PirateHead> That's the one I was looking for.
[09:15] <biscuitdunker> that didnt work :(
[09:15] <biscuitdunker> can i get that link from ubotu again?
[09:15] <bratsche> soundray: So do what.. "apt get source <packagename>" ?  And that will go in my pwd?
[09:15] <UpperNinety89> My OS crashes after the initial loading screen and just stops. I can't get to the Login GUI. Any help?
[09:15] <soundray> bratsche: yes, and yes
[09:15] <bratsche> Err.. I meant apt-get source
[09:15] <bratsche> soundray: Thanks!
[09:15] <Jetfighter> Couldn't find it >.<
[09:16] <jim> Anybody know where I can find my external usb hard drive in Xubunto?
[09:16] <soundray> !fixres > biscuitdunker
[09:16] <soundray> biscuitdunker: and the next step is probably:
[09:16] <slacker_nl> jim: hit `mount` in a terminal
[09:16] <soundray> !ati > biscuitdunker
[09:16] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: What do you mean by stops? Does it come to a terminal? Totally blank? What version of ubuntu are you using? What is the last thing you see before it crashes? Has Ubuntu been working until lately?
[09:16] <ikonia> Jetfighter: every question you ask suggests your trolling. /usr/local/etc - is in the folders "/usr" then "/local/" then "/etc"
[09:16] <morrolan> Is it possible to replace a newer package with an older one, or install both? I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1-20060817, but version libglu1-mesa 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is installed?
[09:16] <bratsche> soundray: Once I have the source, how do I actually build the deb?
[09:16] <melania> anyone know how i can view files of a drive that i just mounted on an ubuntu live cd?
[09:16] <sethk> jim, run the dmesg command, look at the last few lines (ignore the first few thousand)
[09:16] <noobubtu> jim: mount it
[09:16] <slacker_nl> jim: will probably reside somewhere in /media/
[09:16] <biscuitdunker> thank you so much for your hjelp sound i appreicate it been so long since i used linux :-)
[09:16] <slacker_nl> jim: if auto mounted
[09:17] <soundray> bratsche: change into the directory with the patched source and run 'debian/rules binary'
[09:17] <Jetfighter> Couldn't find it >.<
[09:17] <cyphase> Ferret: i did it with regular expessions.. ! -regex "regExp"
[09:18] <LjL> Jetfighter: do you have KDE installed?
[09:18] <cyphase> expressions*
[09:18] <ikonia> Jetfighter: then it doesn't exist
[09:18] <soundray> bratsche: you may first have to do a 'sudo apt-get build-dep packagename'
[09:18] <Dubstar_04> anyone direct me to tv card advice?
[09:18] <Jetfighter> KDE?
[09:18] <database> Didn't work; how do you drop back to a runlevel terminal, WITHOUT X RUNNING?
[09:18] <UpperNinety89> PirateHead: it just stops. It doesn't go to a terminal or anything. Its just blank. I'm using Ubuntu Edgy. The last thing I see before it crashes is a loading bar about 85% full and screen tearing.
[09:18] <PirateHead> Jetfighter: you're using Ubuntu, not Kubuntu, right?
[09:18] <jim> I didtry 'mount'no sign of it!  Tried Knoppix, it displays it as an icon on the desktop....I'll try other suggestions thank you very much guys and gala.
[09:18] <soundray> bratsche: I take it you have installed build-essential already
[09:18] <Jetfighter> Yes
[09:18] <Craeo> It seems that Ubuntu has made itself my default OS to boot into how would I go about changing my default OS to Windows XP partition?
[09:18] <morrolan> Is it possible to replace a newer package with an older one, or install both? I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1-20060817, but version libglu1-mesa 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is installed?
[09:18] <Stalwart> does anyone know when feisty shipit preorder will open?
[09:18] <melania> anyone know how i can view files of a drive that i just mounted on an ubuntu live cd?
[09:18] <SGorillaaaa> how can i enter a space in the terminal (for instance /home/USER/GIANT PENGUINS/) without it treating it as a space?
[09:18] <bratsche> soundray: Yeah.  I just have never messed with deb package system stuff before, so I wasn't sure where to begin with this.
[09:18] <PirateHead> UpperNinety98: it's having trouble switching between uSplash and x. Try reconfiguring xorg.
[09:18] <slacker_nl> melania: you mounted it succesfully?
[09:18] <ikonia> SGorillaaaa: either quote "" it or escape it  \
[09:18] <melania> yeah
[09:18] <LjL> PirateHead: i was asking because, with KDE installed, there's the "hidden directories" features that gets enabled. but really, Jetfighter, /usr/local/etc is just unlikely to exist. it doesn't exist on my system for one.
[09:18] <UpperNinety89> I tried that, I have no idea how to do that
[09:18] <database> SGorillaaaa: Surround the whole path with quotes, which is the second option ikonia said.
[09:18] <melania> at least i'm pretty sure i did :)
[09:19] <reaspired> soundray, I got my nvidia working again, now question is which user does apache. I'm needing to give writable access to a folder
[09:19] <slacker_nl> melania: you should then open nautilus or konquerer and be able to got the /mnt directory
[09:19] <OuZo> hi, i can view the pictures in of a .doc file in office word but not in open office, is this a setting i need to change? thanks
[09:19] <soundray> Craeo: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and point the 'default 0' option to your Windows title number (counting starts at 0) instead of 0
[09:19] <UpperNinety89> Until I don't know, sunday, I didn't even have Ubuntu installed
[09:19] <PirateHead> LJL: doesn't exist on my computer either, but the fact that he's looking for it must mean that there's something there.
[09:19] <slacker_nl> melania: you should see it then
[09:19] <soundray> reaspired: please ask the channel, I don't do apache ;)
[09:19] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: Does the Ubuntu LiveCD boot?
[09:19] <LjL> PirateHead, Jetfighter: then i suggest just typing "ls /usr/local/etc" in a terminal and making sure it does exist, first of all.
[09:19] <melania> nope, doesn't show up :(
[09:19] <slacker_nl> reaspired: www-data
[09:19] <Craeo> soundray: Thanks alot, I will give it a shot right now
[09:20] <ernz> The reason I need to lock desktop icons is because I set up an old 1.4 athlon box running Ubuntu and loads of kids apps, but he's still learning to use the mouse properly and the desktop icons are ending up all over the place. Any suggestions, anybody?
[09:20] <slacker_nl> melania: what does `mount` say?
[09:20] <melania> the command i used was "sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/tmp"
[09:20] <UpperNinety89> It did earlier yesterday, but that was when the whole thing was working. I haven't tried it since.
[09:20] <slacker_nl> melania: you should be able to acces it on /mnt/tmp
[09:20] <N3WB> Help anyone "No precomplied kernel interface was found to match our kernel; would you like the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel from the NVIDIA ftp site ...?
[09:20] <N3WB> I dont got internet, what to do :|
[09:20] <slacker_nl> melania: ls /mnt/tmp
[09:20] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: Try booting from the Ubuntu LiveCD right now. If that doens't work, it might be a different sort of problem.
[09:20] <sethk> N3WB, that's normal, just say yes and let it time out, or say no
[09:20] <UpperNinety89> ok I'll try
[09:21] <UpperNinety89> one second, its on a virtual machine, not sure if I mentioned that
[09:21] <melania> oh ok now i see
[09:21] <Pollywog> I wonder if Melania has recently upgraded
[09:21] <soundray> Craeo: check this out: 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v 0'
[09:21] <N3WB> "ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system. Please install your distributions libc deelopment package"
[09:21] <shekhar> hello can someone help me configure my xorg.conf for my new widescreen monitor to use native resolution
[09:21] <N3WB> How to fix this then?
[09:21] <melania> is there a way i can visually look at the files though?
[09:21] <morrolan> Is it possible to replace a newer package with an older one, or install both? I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1-20060817, but version libglu1-mesa 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is installed?
[09:21] <melania> instead of just in the terminal
[09:21] <rambo3> N3WB, search synaptic
[09:21] <slacker_nl> melania: with konquerer or nautilus
[09:21] <Pollywog> when I upgraded to Edgy things got messed up, like my fstab
[09:21] <LjL> morrolan: sudo apt-get install packagename=versionname, if the version is actually available
[09:21] <soundray> shekhar: ubotu has some info, please read the private message:
[09:21] <soundray> !fixres > shekhar
[09:21] <slacker_nl> melania: just point them to /mtn/tmp
[09:22] <rambo3> N3WB, search synaptic libc dev
[09:22] <LjL> morrolan: in your case that would probably be  sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa=6.5.1-20060817
[09:22] <Pollywog> btw why did Linux (or Ubuntu) change the device names?
[09:22] <PirateHead> Pollywog: I always need to re-write my fstab and /boot/grub/menu.list when Ubuntu upgrades. Make sure you always back those up between upgrades.
[09:22] <ikonia> change in device names ?
[09:22] <melania> is nautilus the file browser of ubuntu?
[09:22] <Craeo> soundray: What does that command do?
[09:22] <LjL> melania: yes
[09:22] <slacker_nl> melania: no, of gnome
[09:22] <soundray> !uuid | Pollywog, do you mean this one?
[09:22] <ubotu> Pollywog, do you mean this one?: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:22] <Pollywog> yes the device names were made into some sort of UUID's
[09:23] <soundray> Craeo: counts your title entries for you
[09:23] <UpperNinety89> Pirate: The disc is loaded and its giving me the boot options (Start or install... start in safe gfx mode etc...) should I just start it from the disc
[09:23] <LjL> Pollywog: the old device names are still quite there.
[09:23] <chalcedony> wb
[09:23] <ikonia> Pollywog: thats a potential branch of the libata kernel, that ubuntu has chosen to bring to production status
[09:23] <Pollywog> my machine would not boot
[09:23] <rambo3> !info libc6-dev edgy | N3WB
[09:23] <Pollywog> oic
[09:23] <ubotu> n3wb: libc6-dev: GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 (edgy), package size 1808 kB, installed size 7872 kB
[09:23] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: Choose the Start / Install Ubuntu option.
[09:23] <qaldune> what devices did linux changed?
[09:23] <UpperNinety89> ok
[09:23] <database> How would one kill the X server, please?
[09:23] <ikonia> qaldun - none
[09:23] <SGorillaaaa> what does the command cd do?
[09:23] <LjL> database: ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:23] <willskills> guys, I am running ventrilo & WoW with aoss: I can talk/hear in vent, but I get no sound in WoW - any ideas?
[09:24] <Pollywog> I was referring to the UUID's
[09:24] <bratsche> SGorillaaaa: change directory
[09:24] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: change current working directory. type "man cd"
[09:24] <database> LjL: That's to restart it?
[09:24] <ikonia> SGorillaaaa: "change" "directory" cd
[09:24] <willskills> guys, I am running ventrilo & WoW with aoss: I can talk/hear in vent, but I get no sound in WoW - any ideas? - if I dont run vent, I get sound in WoW
[09:24] <slacker_nl> database: ps -ef | egrep "gdm|kdm|xdm" | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo kill
[09:24] <LjL> database: it kills it, then GDM sees it was killed and automatically restarts it.
[09:24] <Pollywog> I had to repair my fstab after upgrades or the machine would not boot
[09:24] <LjL> database: if you want to stop GDM, type  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop 
[09:24] <soundray> SGorillaaaa: it plays the CD in your drive
[09:24] <soundray> SGorillaaaa: (just kiddin')
[09:24] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: sorry, that's "help cd"
[09:25] <Pollywog> I had to remove the UUID's in other words
[09:25] <N3WB> So i should just download it and install it i guess?
[09:25] <PirateHead> willskills: sometimes programs have trouble sharing access to your sound card. I don't know how to fix it if that's the case.
[09:25] <slacker_nl> general question, why did they change it to the UUID's anyways?
[09:25] <ernz> Does anyone know which files are configured when the desktop icons are moved?
[09:25] <slacker_nl> its not so human readable anymore..
[09:26] <Pollywog> slacker_nl: yeah it is confusing
[09:26] <LjL> !uuid | slacker_nl
[09:26] <ubotu> slacker_nl: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:26] <AMD-> dose any one know how to get xmms player to work with lirc and a remote , i have placed a configured "lirc" file in  /home/user/.xmms. it still wont work bnut mythtv works
[09:26] <Pollywog> and I had trouble only with one machine not another
[09:26] <ikonia> slacker_nl: possibly because of the 2.8 kernel future proof that the libata guys are trying to address which is dynamic major minor number creation
[09:26] <rambo3> PirateHead, .asoumdrc file should fix that
[09:26] <melania> is there a terminal command to copy stuff from one folder to another?
[09:26] <UpperNinety89> PirateHead: I'm using the CD and it loaded the GUI
[09:26] <kingking> sounds good... i should try UBUNTU then
[09:26] <N3WB> Would it be smart to install "linux-kernel-headers (2.6.18-7)" too?
[09:26] <LjL> melania: "man cp"
[09:26] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: How much do you have to lose by doing a fresh install?
[09:26] <soundray> AMD-: lirc is finicky. What kind of receiver do you have?
[09:27] <LjL> !cli > melania    (melania, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:27] <melania> k thanks a lot
[09:27] <UpperNinety89> Meh, basically nothing really
[09:27] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: in other words, which will be more time-efficient: starting from scratch, or fixing what you've already got?
[09:27] <Pollywog> well it seems to me the kernel guys put the cart before the horse but I guess there was a good reason
[09:27] <SGorillaaaa> im trying to do this command but it wont work, any ideas?
[09:27] <SGorillaaaa> cd /home/USER/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[09:27] <SGorillaaaa> WINEDEBUG="fixme-all" wine steam.exe
[09:27] <ikonia> Pollywog: what ?
[09:27] <PirateHead> rambo3: can you help willskills set that up?
[09:27] <SGorillaaaa> it sais "no such file or directory
[09:27] <Craeo> soundray: I just looked at my menu.lst and it's already set to the default "0" which is what my XP number is "hda 0,0"
[09:28] <UpperNinety89> My question is how do I prevent the same thing from happening again even if I do a fresh install
[09:28] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: USER is unlikely to be a real directory. it means your *own user's* directory, most likely
[09:28] <slacker_nl> ikonia: come again? in plain english ;)
[09:28] <Pollywog> ikonia: with this UUID situation
[09:28] <ikonia> SGorillaaaa: that file doesn't exist probably because you have no /home/USER dir
[09:28] <SGorillaaaa> i know i changed that
[09:28] <PirateHead> kingking: I do suggest giving Ubuntu a try. It's a really nice OS!
[09:28] <ikonia> Pollywog: how is that putting the cart before the horse
[09:28] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: just type  cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam
[09:28] <SGorillaaaa> i used my username
[09:28] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: Don't mess with your xorg configuration? =P
[09:28] <Craeo> soundray: "hd0,0" is my XP number sorry
[09:28] <ikonia> SGorillaaaa: ok - then the file doesn't exist
[09:28] <kingking> ok i will need to download ubuntu then
[09:28] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: ~ is a shortcut for your home directory. and the space in "Program Files" needs to be escaped. (or just type Prog and then TAB... you know about TAB, right? =)
[09:29] <UpperNinety89> lol Given, but I never messed with it myself
[09:29] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: If you can reproduce the problem, it would actually be a really good thing: you could submit a bug to the right tracker and make sure it never happens to anybody else.
[09:29] <morrolan> how do I extract a .run.gz file?
[09:29] <_Krull_> kingking yes
[09:29] <UpperNinety89> True
[09:29] <abo> is there a gui program to convert wav files to mp3?
[09:29] <LjL> morrolan: gunzip filename.run.gz
[09:29] <soundray> Craeo: you haven't listened carefully and haven't understood the terminal command I sent you
[09:29] <ikonia> morrolan: unzip it and chmod it then run it
[09:29] <emet> where can I get like a two page bash/linux cmd line reference?
[09:29] <soundray> !lame > abo, please read ubotu's pm
[09:29] <rambo3> willskills do you have both on alsa and did you configure asoundrc file
[09:29] <morrolan> yeah, i know that.  How do I unzip it, tar keep refusing?
[09:29] <ikonia> morrolan: its gzipped
[09:29] <SGorillaaaa> tankyou ikonia, ljl
[09:29] <ikonia> so "ungizip" it
[09:30] <ikonia> gunzip for example
[09:30] <soundray> Craeo: the 'default' option takes the number of the title entry you want to boot by default.
[09:30] <jackrazz> hey everyone...does tar have error detection (CRCs) or do I need to combine tar with gzip?
[09:30] <morrolan> yeah, thanks for the sarcastic help.
[09:30] <LjL> morrolan: ....
[09:30] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: good luck, see you later.
[09:30] <ikonia> jackrazz: how does combining tar with gzip = error correction ?
[09:30] <soundray> Craeo: 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v 0 | grep -i windows' should show you what number that is
[09:30] <Pollywog> ikonia: if you go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks it seems as though we are testing this thing before it is ready
[09:30] <Jetfighter> Ok, I jsut CDed from desktop to /usr/local/var/run/dancer-ircd
[09:30] <Jetfighter>  but I can-t find it
[09:30] <ernz> OK, can someone point me in the right direction? I need to see which file is being edited as I move desktop icons. I guess it is just a conf file or something. But I wan't to lock this so desktop cannot be altered.
[09:31] <ernz> Thanks in advance
[09:31] <ikonia> Pollywog: well it is in the libata branch and it may change - but thats ubuntu's choice to make it stable - not the linux kernel team
[09:31] <Pollywog> I would expect that in Feisty but not in Edgy
[09:31] <Pollywog> ah ic
[09:31] <ikonia> Pollywog: whats the difference in fesity or edgy - both are not LTS and even when fesity is released that libata branch still won't be main stream so why not in edgy
[09:31] <Craeo> soundray: Aah I see
[09:32] <Craeo> soundray: Let me give it a shot
[09:32] <Ferret> jackrazz: tar has basic error detection, iirc it literally is crc
[09:32] <emet> !bash
[09:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:32] <soundray> Craeo: no, I won't let you
[09:32] <AMD-> soundray: mce usb
[09:32] <soundray> Craeo: dang, seems I can't stop you
[09:32] <soundray> ;)
[09:32] <reaspired> Anyone know a good edgy repository for WINE. that works good with winetools
[09:32] <ikonia> Jetfighter: you can't find what ?
[09:32] <ikonia> reaspired: the ubuntu repo's are all thats supported
[09:33] <soundray> AMD-: is it supposed to work with lirc?
[09:33] <nyinge> /server irc://thelinuxlink.net/techshow
[09:33] <Craeo> soundray: Yeah it was too let, but it did tell me what number my XP listing was
[09:33] <nyinge> *mt
[09:33] <abo> soundray is there a gui frontend to lame?
[09:33] <AMD-> soundray:yes it works with mythtv
[09:33] <rage|work> What package do I need to install to get access to mysqlrepair?
[09:33] <Pollywog> ikonia: in other words I should have stuck with Dapper for now?
[09:33] <soundray> abo: I'm not sure. There are plenty of ripping frontends that use lame amongst other tools.
[09:34] <ikonia> Pollywog: if you don't believe in the block id method - yes
[09:34] <LjL> reaspired the most recent WINE releases can be found at the winehq repository. i have no idea about winetools, wasn't that deprecated even?
[09:34] <badagentx> Can some one help me I can't get ubuntu to boot it was working the other day though
[09:34] <soundray> abo: if I were you, I'd try audacity
[09:34] <LjL> !wine > reaspired    (reaspired, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:34] <Pollywog> ikonia: it's not that I don't believe in it as much as I think it is not ready since it would not work correctly for me in one case
[09:34] <slacker_nl> rage|work: mysqlrepair?
[09:35] <Pollywog> but you might be right, should have stuck with Dapper for now
[09:35] <ikonia> Pollywog: its not in the kernel mainstream yet - so log a bug / request for ubuntu - in say 7 months time the blkid method may not even exist
[09:35] <soundray> Pollywog: please report a bug if you experience unexpected behaviour due to the UUID changeover
[09:35] <melania> seriously, why would ubuntu all of a sudden just decide to start cycling the username/password screens...
[09:35] <soundray> !bugs > Pollywog
[09:35] <rage|work> slacker_nl, yes -- I have a command on my gentoo box 'mysqlrepair' -- my database got hosed up and I need to repair it on my ubuntu box
[09:35] <morrolan> I'm trying to install libsdl1.2-dev, but it depends on libglu1-mesa 6.5.1-20060817, but I have libglu1-mesa 6.5.1+cvs20060824 installed?  Is there anything I can do to resolve this?
[09:35] <rambo3> what is mysqlrepair ? there is safe start
[09:35] <slacker_nl> rage|work: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysqlcheck.html
[09:36] <LjL> morrolan: 1) have you not read or not tried the solution i did give you?
[09:36] <abo> soundray, ok cheers (soundconverter was suggested as well... it looks prety good, simple and good)
[09:36] <morrolan> LjL, I'm sorry, I must have missed it?  When was this?
[09:36] <slacker_nl> rambo3: lol, I could not find it via apt-file and aptitude search
[09:36] <Pollywog> soundray: thanks, I will see if I can file a bug report
[09:36] <soundray> melania: remove any heavy objects from your keyboard and mouse ;)
[09:36] <LjL> morrolan: 2) you left earlier about the gz file issue, but the answer you were given was correct and totally not sarcastic. you use "tar" un extract a "tar" file, not a "gz" file. for that you use "gunzip".
[09:36] <melania> :(
[09:36] <LjL> [21:21:53]  <LjL> morrolan: sudo apt-get install packagename=versionname, if the version is actually available
[09:36] <slacker_nl> mysqlcheck I can find with which
[09:36] <LjL> [21:22:19]  <LjL> morrolan: in your case that would probably be  sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa=6.5.1-20060817
[09:36] <AMD-> any way to start MacSlow's Cairo-Clock when i log on ?
[09:37] <melania> is there a way to copy everyting from say sda3 to sda6?
[09:37] <ikonia> melania: man cp
[09:37] <Jetfighter> How do I grant permission to save in usr/local/etc/ folder?
[09:37] <Pollywog> I have used cp -Rv for that
[09:37] <ikonia> Jetfighter: man chmod
[09:37] <morrolan> LjL, I know that, it wasn't you that my comment was aimed at.  I know that the information was correct because it has since worked, but it was the way the information was delivered seemed quite sarcastic to me.  Anyway, it's in the past, and the important thing is, is that the information worked.
[09:37] <Pollywog> cp -Rv
[09:38] <soundray> AMD-: oops, missed your line about lirc. Have you tried with irrecord?
[09:38] <slacker_nl> rage|work: its in the mysql-client packages
[09:38] <Ireclan> I'm having problems with Visualboy Advance under Ubuntu. Is this the right place to seek help, or should I go to Ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:38] <rage|work> slacker_nl, I got it -- thanks
[09:38] <AMD->  soundray: no ,do i need to install it ? is it some kind of plug in for xmms ?
[09:38] <slacker_nl> rage|work: yw
[09:38] <LjL> morrolan: ok. "tar" has the "added bonus" of being able to extract gz and bz2 files too -- which is probably the reason you tried to use "tar" in the first place -- *but* only when they shrink-wrap a .tar file, like in .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 files
[09:39] <catalyst`> does anyone know of a way to do a remote net-install of ubuntu-server?
[09:39] <soundray> AMD-: no, it's part of lirc
[09:39] <melania> so would that be cp /dev/sda3 /dev/sda6
[09:39] <Pollywog> melania: no
[09:39] <LjL> melania: no
[09:39] <ikonia> melania: no - they are devices not file systems
[09:39] <LjL> melania: both must be mounted somewhere
[09:39] <soundray> !install > catalyst`, please read ubotu's private message
[09:39] <morrolan> LjL , I've tried that with libglu1 before and just tried again, and the error I get is: E: Version '6.5.1-20060817' for 'libglu1-mesa' was not found
[09:39] <catalyst`> soundray: ok
[09:39] <LjL> morrolan: then you simply don't have that version available from the repositories, i'm afraid. what was the program that's asking for it?
[09:40] <ernz> New Question: How do I make a new post in Ubuntu Forums. I am logged in, then what?
[09:40] <rambo3> !!netinstall | catalyst`
[09:40] <ubotu> catalyst`: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:40] <ikonia> click the "new post" button
[09:40] <LjL> arnz: ask in #ubuntuforums :)
[09:40] <LjL> ernz even
[09:40] <ernz> Thanks
[09:40] <melania> what about mv /home/pump/desktop/*.odt /dev/sda6
[09:41] <ikonia> melania: no - thats move - not copy and thats still a device file - not a file system
[09:41] <soundray> melania: recipe for disaster
[09:41] <slacker_nl> melania: nope, you need to mount /dev/sda6 first
[09:41] <LjL> melania: no. /dev/sda6 is still a device.
[09:41] <morrolan> Loads of programs - games mainly.  UFO:Alien Invasion (XCOM clone), UltimateStunts, Diameter etc.  UFO:AI is frustrating because I wanted to start helping with the project.
[09:41] <AMD-> soundray: ok i will install it
[09:41] <melania> what if i just /dev/sda6/foldername would it create a folder?
[09:41] <Ireclan> I'm having problems with Visualboy Advance under Ubuntu. Is this the right place to seek help, or should I go to Ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:41] <soundray> AMD-: you should have it already if you have lirc...
[09:41] <Ant1moN_> hi! do you know how to launch an app automatically on login in XFCE?
[09:41] <slacker_nl> melania: don't..
[09:41] <ikonia> melania: are you listening ?? /dev/sda6 is a DEVICE file not a FILE SYSTEM
[09:41] <ikonia> you can only copy FILE SYSTEMS
[09:42] <LjL> melania: mkdir /media/sda3; mkdir /media/sda6; mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3; mount /dev/sda6 /media/sda6; cp -a /media/sda3/* /media/sda6/
[09:42] <Pollywog> something like 'cp -R /home/pump/desktop /temp' would work if /temp exists
[09:42] <AMD-> soundray: how do i use it
[09:42] <rage|work> what port does the "Remote Desktop" run on?
[09:42] <rage|work> is it vnc's default 5900?
[09:42] <soundray> AMD-: I can't remember. I think there is a manpage
[09:42] <AMD-> soundray:also i have my mce remote confugured the buttons every thing
[09:42] <AMD-> ok
[09:43] <cld2> what metapackage(s) do I need to be able to compile things?
[09:43] <soundray> AMD-: irrecord is for configuring a remote, so you won't need that then
[09:43] <LjL> !build-essential > cld2    (cld2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:43] <cld2> LjL: thanks much.
[09:43] <slacker_nl> rage|work: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/northrup_03may16.mspx and look for port
[09:43] <soundray> AMD-: a very low-level test is to find the lirc device (/dev/lirc/lirc0 or /dev/lirc0 or something like that)
[09:43] <Gena-Trius> Excuse me, I've got this laptop here, and I want to make sure nothing bad will happen if I install Ubuntu on it...
[09:43] <Ireclan> I'm having problems with Visualboy Advance under Ubuntu. Is this the right place to seek help, or should I go to Ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:43] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: no promises - the installer is only as clever as the person driving it
[09:44] <slacker_nl> Ireclan: just ask the question you have :)
[09:44] <razzorz> Gena: thats the all the fun...
[09:44] <soundray> AMD-: and run 'cat /dev/lirc0' and press a few buttons on the remote. This should generate random characters on the screen.
[09:44] <Pollywog> in other words backup your data and don't use the machine you need for work tomorrow
[09:44] <Gena-Trius> Exactly, I want to make sure I'm clever enough. What are some concerns with installing ubuntu on notebooks?
[09:44] <Ireclan> The sound for the game I'm playing is scratchy. Shall I list the game?
[09:44] <AMD-> yeh if i open a terminal and type "irw" i can see my remote key presses
[09:44] <rage|work> slacker_nl, erp.. I meant the one in ubuntu ;x
[09:44] <ikonia> none
[09:45] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: none
[09:45] <razzorz> besides the obvious ... ( keyboard shotcuts ) can someone tell me how to dissable the shift / backspace logout
[09:45] <slacker_nl> rage|work: which one, you can run rdesktop on ubuntu to connect to RDP on windows hosts
[09:45] <IndyGunFreak> Gena-Trius: mostly wireless issues... maybe video issues, since most lappys seem to use ATI..
[09:45] <AMD-> 000000037ff07be9 02 Play mceusb
[09:45] <tomas__> Gena-Trius, drivers
[09:45] <soundray> AMD-: hope you can get it going. I'm logging off now
[09:45] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: the only thing that can do damage is you
[09:45] <Gena-Trius> Drivers for what?
[09:45] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: drivers for wifi for example
[09:46] <AndrewLife> Which driver is better: fglrx or the official ati driver?
[09:46] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: it took some work to get wifi to work on my laptop when I installed Ubuntu
[09:46] <Seveas> AndrewLife, fglrx IS the official ati driver
[09:46] <AndrewLife> oh, hahaha
[09:46] <slacker_nl> Gena-Trius: ubuntu has a whole bunch of docs about installing ubuntu on laptops
[09:46] <Pollywog> it worked out of the box in Linspire but Linspire limited me in small ways
[09:46] <AndrewLife> thank you saveas
[09:46] <rage|work> slacker_nl, the one that acts as a VNC server for incoming connections -- System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop I believe
[09:47] <Gena-Trius> Well, there's a support page thing for my wifi card... What could I do if there were video issues?
[09:47] <ikonia> not install it ?
[09:47] <ikonia> delete it
[09:47] <ikonia> fix it
[09:47] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: rt2500?
[09:47] <Gena-Trius> Oh, where would those be?
[09:47] <ikonia> up to you
[09:47] <razzorz> lol
[09:47] <Gena-Trius> Huh?
[09:47] <razzorz> ikona: whould you know how to dissable this shift/bkspace logout feature?
[09:48] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: I guess not, it's the wifi type that I have on my laptop
[09:48] <slacker_nl> rage|work: don't know - netstat -anp | grep vnc might help you perhaps
[09:48] <ikonia> razzorz: no idea, I guess its in the gnome doc
[09:48] <ikonia> docs
[09:48] <WorldDomination> hi
[09:48] <Pollywog> it works but it took lots of work and forum posts to get it working
[09:48] <Gena-Trius> I'm sorry, here's the page on my wifi card: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBuffalo
[09:48] <Ireclan> Could I get some help with Visualboy advance, please? My sound is all scratchy.
[09:48] <razzorz> ya.. well thats just typical
[09:48] <razzorz> lol
[09:48] <Pollywog> oh you have a Buffalo
[09:49] <winmutt> find  . -exec cat '{}'  ;
[09:49] <winmutt> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[09:49] <winmutt> what am i missing?
[09:49] <slacker_nl> Gena-Trius: pop in the livecd, if you graphics work with that, I think it will work when you install it :)
[09:49] <ikonia> winmutt: -name
[09:49] <LjL> winmutt: something awkward. you should do \; instead of just ;  if i recall correctly. or something.
[09:49] <slacker_nl> LjL: that's correct
[09:49] <razzorz> ikonia: any thoughts were i should look
[09:49] <ikonia> razzorz: gnome docs
[09:49] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: don't be scared if the live cd runs slowly, if you do install Ubuntu it is faster when installed
[09:50] <Pollywog> than the cd
[09:50] <stephane_> salut ily a t-il un francais ici
[09:50] <slacker_nl> !french
[09:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:50] <Pollywog> I think one has to be a geek to file one of these bug reports
[09:51] <Gena-Trius> Well, I'd rather not have to download another ISO. I've got a Compaq Armada M700. Does anyone know anything about that?
[09:51] <ikonia> not really
[09:51] <slacker_nl> Pollywog: what kind of bugreports?
[09:51] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: no
[09:51] <MostKnown53> hello
[09:51] <Pollywog> slacker_nl: when I upgraded Edgy, my system would not boot because of the UUID's
[09:51] <slacker_nl> Pollywog: ahh, that :)
[09:51] <Gena-Trius> Any issues specific to Compaq computers, maybe?
[09:51] <ikonia> no
[09:51] <Pollywog> I had to go to a backup fstab after reinstalling
[09:52] <ikonia> compaq made many computers
[09:52] <slacker_nl> Gena-Trius: I have a compaq ncsomething - works fine
[09:52] <ikonia> thats too general
[09:52] <MostKnown53> someone told me a program that will help me install apps in ubuntu but i dont remember what it was does anyone kno
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:52] <ikonia> MostKnown53: automatix - but don't use it
[09:52] <LjL> MostKnown53: Add/Remove Programs or Synaptic
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> Gena-Trius: I have Xubuntu 6.10 on a fairly old Compaq Laptop, seems to work fine
[09:52] <morrolan> LjL, I figured out how to do it :)  In Synaptic, I selected the libglu1-mesa package, clicked properties, clicked the "Versions" tab, and it then tells you how to force an older version by selecting the package, going to the "Package" menu, and then "Force Version".  Certainly useful to know!
[09:52] <I3ooI3oo_werking> apt-get ?
[09:52] <Pollywog> ikonia: yes if you were replying to me, it is too general for a bug report
[09:52] <ikonia> Pollywog: not sorry - not you
[09:52] <Pollywog> hence my geek comment
[09:52] <Pollywog> oh
[09:52] <Pollywog> :)
[09:52] <morrolan> whois LjL
[09:52] <Ireclan> Could I get some help with Visualboy advance, please? My sound is all scratchy.
[09:52] <ikonia> s/not/no
[09:52] <LjL> morrolan: well but it's the same thing as apt-get install package=version i think... at least it should
[09:52] <LjL> morrolan: try with a slash :)
[09:53] <slacker_nl>  /whois ljl :P
[09:53] <LjL> hehe
[09:53] <morrolan> Sorry, I don't mean to pry, I just wanted to see if you were still in the room!
[09:53] <razzorz> STALKER
[09:53] <razzorz> lol
[09:54] <morrolan> channel even.
[09:54] <slacker_nl> i need to go to bed
[09:54] <MostKnown53> what gui are does ubuntu have
[09:54] <morrolan> My god I'm tired now, I've just finally fixed something which I've been banging my head against the wall for over a week because of.
[09:54] <ikonia> MostKnown53: read the docs
[09:54] <ikonia> ubuntu.com
[09:55] <Gena-Trius> You said something about ATI. The laptop's running Windows XP right now. How would I find out if it used ATI graphics without opening the thing up?
[09:55] <MostKnown53> so only gnome
[09:55] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: look at the display properties
[09:55] <ikonia> MostKnown53: no
[09:55] <slacker_nl> MostKnown53: no
[09:55] <ikonia> MostKnown53: read the docs - ubuntu.com
[09:55] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Gena-Trius: check the packing list... or turn it on
[09:55] <LjL> !kde > MostKnown53    (MostKnown53, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:55] <LjL> !xfce > MostKnown53    (MostKnown53, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:55] <Pollywog> MostKnown53: I use kubuntu so I have KDE
[09:56] <slacker_nl> MostKnown53: you can run it with any kind of gui, just pick one
[09:56] <I3ooI3oo_werking> pllowog doesn'y ubuntu use gnome by default
[09:56] <Pollywog> yes Gnome by default
[09:56] <I3ooI3oo_werking> or is kbuntu with KDE ?
[09:56] <slacker_nl> yes
[09:56] <Pollywog> but in kubuntu it's kde
[09:56] <I3ooI3oo_werking> OIC
[09:56] <MostKnown53> cool kubuntu for me then
[09:56] <Gena-Trius> Ahhh, ATI RAGE. How can I get around this?
[09:57] <slacker_nl> and xubuntu uses xcfe
[09:57] <ikonia> get around what ?
[09:57] <I3ooI3oo_werking> true  KDE is KDE a destop enviroment
[09:57] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: there is nothing to get around
[09:57] <Gena-Trius> I thought you said it wouldn't work with ATI.
[09:57] <N3WB> Thanks to evryone for helping me installing nVidia drivers for Ubuntu (GF8800 GTS) Couldnt done it without ya :D
[09:57] <ikonia> no - there may be issues with ati drivers
[09:57] <I3ooI3oo_werking> i wish i would have known that before installing
[09:57] <Gena-Trius> But it'll work?
[09:57] <ikonia> don't know until you try
[09:58] <Gena-Trius> I'll get the Live CD...
[09:58] <Pollywog> You can change desktops without reinstalling
[09:58] <joker73_> does anyone know if I can get compiz to work whit my ubuntu 64bit and my gf2 ??
[09:58] <ikonia> joker73_: gs2 is a bit weak, but yes
[09:58] <Pollywog> I have Gnome installed too on one machine
[09:58] <I3ooI3oo_werking> yeah i do understand that and have don't it before
[09:58] <I3ooI3oo_werking> *done it befor
[09:58] <slacker_nl> I3ooI3oo_werking: you can install the kubuntu-desktop package
[09:59] <erisco> how do I create a zip manually? I need to zip the and preserve empty directories.. by default (through the gui) it is not doing this
[09:59] <ikonia> erisco: man zip
[09:59] <joker73_> and are there some problem to use 64bit and compiz?
[09:59] <ikonia> joker73_: not that I'm aware of
[09:59] <ikonia> works fine
[10:00] <kungfugoat> is tcpflow installed by default?
[10:00] <MostKnown53> wow i just got tried to download from the slowest server ever
[10:00] <joker73_> oki then there is me that is the problem :(
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Hi there, can anyone help me with this problem. Apt-get doesnt work because of some broken dependencies.
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> When I type in sudo apt-get install -f as I am recommended to, the following is displayed.
[10:00] <goodbyewindows>  			 				me@LAPTOP:~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Password:
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Reading package lists... Done
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Building dependency tree
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Reading state information... Done
[10:00] <ikonia> no
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Correcting dependencies... failed.
[10:00] <whonicca> whens feisty coming out
[10:00] <ikonia> stop flooding
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:00] <goodbyewindows>   libfontconfig1: Depends: fontconfig-config (= 2.3.2-7ubuntu2) but 2.4.2-1.2 is installed
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[10:00] <ikonia> thank you
[10:00] <PriceChild> goodbyewindows, pelase don't paste in channel :)
[10:00] <weedar> If you want to move a folder graphically to a place that needs sudo, can you do that?
[10:00] <erisco> ikonia.. it is like 850 pages long...
[10:00] <ikonia> erisco: what is
[10:00] <erisco> ikonia.. I mean lines. The man for zip :P
[10:00] <jenda> Does anyone (apart from Seveas) have any tips how to reset keyboard layout settings to dfault in X? (XGL, Gnome...)
[10:01] <ikonia> erisco: no its not
[10:01] <ikonia> man zip
[10:01] <sanityx> What's the name of the thing ubuntu replaced init with again?
[10:01] <PriceChild> jenda, a big hammer
[10:01] <erisco> ikonia, oh yes it is lol
[10:01] <ikonia> just read it
[10:01] <PriceChild> !paste | goodbyewindows
[10:01] <ubotu> goodbyewindows: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:01] <James__> is there a good package for using wireless connections in Gnome?  I would like to use WPA-PSK and also see a signal strength bar for available networks.
[10:01] <goodbyewindows> thanks
[10:01] <AndrewLife> weedar: you can use sudo nautilus to open the graphical file manager with root permissions
[10:01] <sanityx> James_ I haven't found any graphical wifi tools to work well for WPA
[10:01] <weedar> AndrewLife: ah, ok :)
[10:02] <erisco> all I need to know is the argument to preserve empty directories =\
[10:02] <slacker_nl> James__: I use ifplugd/guessnet/wpa_supplicant for that
[10:02] <tjb13> hey guys I've been trying to install fiesty on my macbook pro and it works then i run update and it craps out on mouseemu and cups and then asks to restart and when I restart it freezes after the orange bar moves a little
[10:02] <tjb13> any ideas?
[10:02] <slacker_nl> James__: no gui though, but there is a package called wpagui
[10:02] <PriceChild> tjb13, > #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <ikonia> tjb13: join #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <ikonia> why does no-one read the topic ?????
[10:02] <UB`> erisco search it in the man whit /empty for example
[10:02] <UB`> with*
[10:02] <Ireclan> I'm having audio problems with Visualboy Advance. Could someone please help me?
[10:03] <tjb13> PriceChils wait why?
[10:03] <ikonia> tjb13: thats where fesity support is
[10:03] <tjb13> oh thanks guys
[10:03] <tjb13> i appreciate it
[10:03] <davehimself> my install does a fsck on every boot... how can I stop this?
[10:03] <goodbyewindows> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10396/
[10:03] <winmutt> find .  *mp3 -exec checkmp3 -sf '{}'>'{}-fixed'; mv '{}-fixed' '{}' \;
[10:03] <winmutt> how do i get the pipe to be escaped?
[10:03] <erisco> UB` no luck :(
[10:03] <ikonia> what pipe ?
[10:04] <PriceChild> jenda, Was it "fine" for the new user?
[10:04] <slacker_nl> bruenig: complicated
[10:04] <Gena-Trius> I can't find the Live CD!
[10:04] <zipper_> Hmm, what to do if kmix shows the wrong "thing" as the main volume control (when you click the icon)? I want to change it from headphones to PCM - is that possible?
[10:04] <bruenig> !info checkmp3
[10:04] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: if you're not on the ball enough to download the ubuntu cd - then perhaps ubuntu is not for you
[10:04] <ubotu> checkmp3: identify MP3s that do not follow the MP3 format. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.98-5.1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 112 kB
[10:04] <Caspe1> hello every1
[10:04] <jenda> PriceChild: I didn't check :)
[10:04] <ikonia> minimal install requirments ability to download cd
[10:04] <jenda> PriceChild: just a sec...
[10:04] <PriceChild> jenda, well check! :)
[10:04] <PriceChild> :P
[10:05] <Gena-Trius> ikonia, I have downloaded ubuntu. I'm using it on this computer, tright now.
[10:05] <Ireclan> I'm having audio problems with Visualboy Advance. Could someone please help me?
[10:05] <erisco> there MUST be a way to include empty directories...
[10:05] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: so whats the problem ?
[10:05] <ikonia> erisco: yup - just zip it up
[10:05] <erisco> ikonia, it isn't preserving empty directories.. it is removing them
[10:05] <Caspe1> who want to help me? i swear ill do what im told!!:)
[10:06] <PriceChild> Caspe1, ask your question and see
[10:06] <erisco> ikonia, in both the GUI and the terminal
[10:06] <MostKnown53> can someone find me a faster server to download Kubuntu dvd 6.10
[10:06] <winmutt> bruenig: i am trying to fix alll my mp3s
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, there is with tar
[10:06] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lol
[10:06] <PriceChild> MostKnown53, tried torrenting it?
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, may be with zip also, but I don't know much about zip
[10:06] <erisco> sethk, but I don't think a tar will work on windows =\
[10:06] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: which ammused you today
[10:06] <Gena-Trius> In fact, I downloaded Xubuntu, then used Synaptic to install ubuntu-desktop. I just can't find where it says "Download Live CD here" on the website.
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, of course it will
[10:06] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: minimum install requirements..lol
[10:06] <slacker_nl> erisco: it will, winzip supports it
[10:06] <Caspe1> cant get avi to play, ive done all codecs and all players through automatix
[10:06] <erisco> sethk, will it? ah, good
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, ALL the linux utilities are available for windows
[10:06] <bruenig> winmutt, does checkmp3 require that you rename them, because it seems like rename them and then renaming them again is an unnecessary step
[10:06] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: ahhhh they are key
[10:06] <erisco> awesome.
[10:06] <Askar> Hi! I cannot empty my trashcan..I have not the right priviliges..how to solve that?
[10:06] <MostKnown53> no i havent
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, see www.cygwin.com
[10:07] <MostKnown53> i need a x86 based one
[10:07] <slacker_nl> erisco: and 7zip will play nicely with tar as well
[10:07] <sethk> erisco, warning, addictive
[10:07] <Gena-Trius> Ikonia, the thing that I just said.
[10:07] <goodbyewindows> im having trouble with apt-get, broken dependecies: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10396/
[10:07] <winmutt> bruenig: it only outputs to console
[10:07] <slacker_nl> erisco: and you have gnuwin32 packages which support tar :)
[10:07] <sethk> slacker_nl, yes, good point, I forgot that about 7zip
[10:07] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: what thing, you said you couldn't find the cd - then you said you're running it
[10:07] <joker73_> when i try to import the gpg key with the comand  "get http://ubuntu.compiz.net/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add - " I get a Resolving ubuntu.compiz.net... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution error does anyone have any solusions
[10:07] <PriceChild> Askar, "sudo chown username:username -R /home/username/.Trash" replacing username with your username
[10:07] <PriceChild> joker73_, > #ubuntu-effects and that's a VERY OLD tutorial
[10:07] <sethk> joker73_, try the command line command       host ubuntu.compiz.net
[10:07] <ikonia> joker73_: means that site doesn't exust
[10:08] <slacker_nl> sethk: that was my lover once I decided not to use warez on windows anymore
[10:08] <sethk> joker73_, the name may no longer be valid
[10:08] <sethk> slacker_nl, ok  :)
[10:08] <jgw> who do i report racist content in ubuntu's fortune to?
[10:08] <Caspe1> does any1 know how to get avi to play?
[10:08] <IndyGunFreak> !avi
[10:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <MostKnown53> now i need a bittorrent client
[10:08] <Gena-Trius> Oh, is the normal installer CD the same thing as the Live install CD?
[10:09] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: yes
[10:09] <slacker_nl> jgw: run fortune without the insult "module"
[10:09] <PriceChild> jgw, #ubuntu-ops please
[10:09] <ikonia> as I said earlier "read the docs"
[10:09] <rwxr-xr--> can someone help me with lan chat client?
[10:09] <IndyGunFreak> MostKnown53: i like Ktorrent, but Bittorrent and Azeurus are good tol.
[10:09] <Gena-Trius> Oh!
[10:09] <Gena-Trius> I'm sorry ikonia, my mistake.
[10:09] <lilrayray> hi all, I am having some serious crashes (ubuntu randomly seizes up completely to the point where I have to physically shut my computer down).  From what I can tell, it is related in some way to my internet since so far, My computer has only frozen when browsing the web (with both firefox and opera).  I have pasted my kernel.log.0 incase it might help diagnose the problem.  Anyone have any idea what is wrong?
[10:09] <Craeo> Azeurus, seems rather difficult to install when I was reading the instructions
[10:10] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: start by reading the docs
[10:10] <xtknight> lilrayray, url or pastebin for the log?
[10:10] <bruenig> winmutt, won't the mv command fail since what you are renaming them to will already exist
[10:10] <MostKnown53> nvm i still have utorrent on my computer
[10:10] <joker73_> does anyone know a good how to get compiz on my 64 bit ubunt
[10:10] <IndyGunFreak> Craeo: its in the repos i'm pretty sure.
[10:10] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i msg ya .. i think u was not here.
[10:10] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, just got here
[10:10] <xtknight> what's up?
[10:10] <sethk> lilrayray, check also /var/log/messages.  do    ls -ltr /var/log     which will print the log files in reverse timestamp order (meaning the most recently changed last)
[10:10] <bruenig> !compiz | joker73_ I don't think it can be done but if it can...
[10:10] <ubotu> joker73_ I don't think it can be done but if it can...: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:10] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  okie. man.
[10:10] <sethk> lilrayray, unfortunately the odds of finding something in the logs is quite low.
[10:11] <slacker_nl> bruenig: mv will override the file if already present
[10:11] <lilrayray> xtknight: hi again, I managedto paste it in windows, here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10242/
[10:11] <Craeo> IndyGunFreak: Maybe, I haven't actually tried to install it yet, I'm still learning how to use linux and the command line, I did manager to get KTorrent up and running thought
[10:11] <bruenig> ok
[10:11] <ikonia> joker73_: I don't think there are any ubuntu packages for compiz any more as it uses beryl now
[10:11] <Craeo> IndyGunFreak: Though**
[10:11] <IndyGunFreak> Craeo:     http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[10:11] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, seen it before, generally nothing to worry about.  probably due to Xgl/Beryl
[10:11] <sethk> lilrayray, most likely thing is a hardware memory failure.  If the memory hasn't been tested recently, try booting up the memory tester
[10:11] <lilrayray> sethk: that's too bad.  What was really odd though, was that my comp froze every time I clicked "paste" on paste bin
[10:11] <AlessandroD> Hello
[10:11] <rwxr-xr-->  xtknight : but there is no user to chat :< what should i do ?
[10:11] <sethk> lilrayray, repeatably?
[10:11] <MostKnown53> i love my 12MB connection
[10:12] <lilrayray> sethk: three times in a row
[10:12] <shatrat> ikonia, what?  ubuntu doesnt have much to do with packaging either, but compiz is included in feisty by default
[10:12] <sethk> lilrayray, does it freeze every time you paste?  or do you have to paste several times before it freezes?
[10:12] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, what do you mean?  you don't need to chat with anyone about this, not much of a problem.  you can safely ignore the message
[10:12] <shatrat> ikonia, whereas beryl isnt, and you still need a 3rd party repo
[10:12] <Craeo> IndyGunFreak: I'm running 6.06
[10:12] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : u check my msg ? igave ya pastebin url?
[10:12] <IndyGunFreak> Craeo:    http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[10:12] <lilrayray> sethk: Well, yesterday, the first time I tried it froze, then the second time it froze, and I stopped after the third consecutive time
[10:12] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : nothing problem with that boot problem..
[10:12] <AlessandroD> I'm having problens connecting to a network.
[10:13] <ikonia> shatrat: how can ubuntu say beryl is the direction of choice - but then include compiz ?
[10:13] <sethk> lilrayray, that's reasonable.  :)
[10:13] <evo_> how did you paste to pastebin then?
[10:13] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, yes i saw the last one about the problems while starting 'trix'.  i dont think there is much to worry about there, either.
[10:13] <xethx> Hello all
[10:13] <shatrat> ikonia, I haven't seen where they have said that.  Beryl wasnt packaged and ready in time for the freeze so it wasnt included.
[10:13] <sethk> lilrayray, it's possible that the reason it seizes up on paste is that paste uses a big chunk of memory.  I would run the memory tester just to eliminate the hardware as a possible source of the problem.
[10:13] <shatrat> ikonia, beryl is also broken on XGL right now, as well as having some other fun bugs
[10:13] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : but.. app is opened and no users there ..
[10:13] <xethx> i was wonring im trying to install  et-linux-2.55.x86.run but i dont know how
[10:14] <joker73_> so is there any one who have a ide on what if any is the best sulution to get any of the cool 3d desktop on a 64 bit ubuntu
[10:14] <xethx> can someone help?
[10:14] <lilrayray> sethk: ok, how long does the test take?
[10:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : want to transfers some files through trix.
[10:14] <bruenig> joker73_, install the 32 bit version of ubuntu
[10:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, ah ok, i didn't know what trix was
[10:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i tried to remove and install it again ..
[10:14] <IndyGunFreak> !someone | xethx
[10:14] <ubotu> xethx: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:14] <ikonia> shatrat: yes, I'm aware it has issues - but its "supposed" to be the ubuntu choice
[10:14] <sethk> lilrayray, depends on how much memory, but, generally, a _long_ time.  It's the kind of thing you want to run when you go to sleep, and hope it finishes by the time you wake up.
[10:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, no idea about trix i've never used it
[10:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : trix ix local chat client like vyqchat ..
[10:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, i dont think the problem is related
[10:14] <lilrayray> sethk: arg, I have 2gb of ram
[10:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, the errors it's giving you are BadDevice (some unserious mouse problems)
[10:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : is any app like. that? for local chat ? with sending n Reciveing file options
[10:15] <Arv3n> Can aonye help me? After installing i get the error "APCI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x3", I turn on SW Single Processor mode and it all goes away. Help?
[10:15] <xethx> can someone walk me throug the process
[10:15] <sethk> lilrayray, definitely an overnighter.
[10:15] <shatrat> ikonia, I've never seen anything to suggest it was preferred over compiz.
[10:15] <lilrayray> sethk: haha, well I am used to letting processes run over night
[10:15] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : want to chat with local lan users and want to get some files too.
[10:15] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, hmm.  gnome meeting maybe
[10:15] <lilrayray> sethk: I have a pretty fast computer, so it should help the scan right?
[10:16] <evo_> if you have fast memory, yes
[10:16] <sethk> lilrayray, somewhat, but it's still going to be slow.
[10:16] <Checkka> if I installed java  through synaptic, how do i associate it with firefox in ubuntu?
[10:16] <evo_> if you have lots of memory, that will slow it
[10:16] <lilrayray> sethk: too bad, well thanks for the help
[10:16] <Arv3n> Can aonye help me? After installing i get the error "APCI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x3", I turn on SW Single Processor mode and it all goes away. Help?
[10:16] <sethk> lilrayray, I mean, 8 hours is twice as fast as 16 hours, but 8 hours is still a long time.
[10:16] <evo_> if it runs for an hour without an error, you're probably okay
[10:16] <xtknight> sethk, are you talking about duration of memtest?
[10:16] <ikonia> shatrat: interesting
[10:16] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : Where i found this gnome metting?
[10:16] <lilrayray> evo_: what does it do in the first hour?
[10:16] <sethk> Arv3n, turn off power save features and turn multiple processors back on
[10:16] <sethk> xtknight, yes
[10:17] <evo_> it is constantly checking memory, it does many tests with many patterns of tests
[10:17] <Arv3n> SethK, how? In the BIOS, but where? I have an eMachines T5212.
[10:17] <sethk> xtknight, I've seen it take close to four hours for a single test cycle
[10:17] <xtknight> sethk,  my memtest for 2G completed in 2 hrs.
[10:17] <evo_> it tells you how many cycles it has done as it runs
[10:17] <Arv3n> SethK, do you want to know my Mobo?
[10:17] <sethk> Arv3n, no, I mean in the kernel.
[10:17] <warlock> I have a ftp account called "pub" (using pure-ftpd) - I was wondering how to make the dir /var/www/pub so people cannot delete files/edit files/or create dirs - just be able to upload files? anyone?
[10:17] <lilrayray> xtknight: what is your ram clock speed?
[10:17] <sethk> Arv3n, sure, tell us the mobo, but it probably won't help much
[10:17] <IndyGunFreak> xethx: what do you need walked through?
[10:17] <xtknight> sethk, i dont know though, it may have been a different test.  i dont think i ran anything advanced, just the normal regiment
[10:17] <Arv3n> SethK, Oh, thank you.
[10:17] <ro1> !wifi
[10:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:17] <slacker_nl> bye all
[10:18] <sethk> xtknight, ok, 2 hours is much better.  but it is still not something you want to be waiting around for.
[10:18] <xtknight> where is GnomeMeeting?
[10:18] <lilrayray> sethk: I have plenty of other things to do to keep me occupied
[10:18] <Arv3n>  Intel D102GGC2
[10:18] <Narb> How do i get my Ubuntu install "connected" to my windows network? (Workgroup: HOME)
[10:18] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, i don't know any other apps i dont even know if Ubuntu still has Gnome meeting
[10:18] <sethk> xtknight, that's very good.  My testing was on some embedded systems using older processors.
[10:18] <ro1> !wifi
[10:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:18] <sethk> Arv3n, I've not heard anything nasty about that mobo.
[10:19] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i check all menus that options is not there :) well nevamind.. looking for new app like trix.. well anyway thanks
[10:19] <xtknight> lilrayray, um..400mhz? (ddr2-800)
[10:19] <shatrat> samba | Narb what you need is samba
[10:19] <Arv3n> Seth, how do I turn it off in the kernel?
[10:19] <Caspe1> can i make opera my default browser, rather than firfox?
[10:19] <shatrat> rats
[10:19] <Arv3n> Seth, or is it in the forums?
[10:19] <shatrat> !samba | Narb
[10:19] <ubotu> Narb: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:19] <xtknight> lilrayray, nah it's 200 mhzx4 = 800 ddr2
[10:19] <ro1> If my wireless device turns up as a wired one. I need to check my drivers?
[10:19] <lilrayray> xtknight: huh? all I know is that I have dual channel 667 mhz ram
[10:19] <AlessandroD> I can't connect to a Windows computer over an Ethernet cable. I think the problem has to do with IPv6; the network is IPv4
[10:20] <xtknight> lilrayray, ddr2-667?
[10:20] <lilrayray> xtkinght: yep
[10:20] <sethk> AlessandroD, unlikely, if the network doesn't respond to ipv6 it will just revert to ipv4
[10:20] <xtknight> lilrayray, i dont know, never ran memtest on this pc.  ddr400 was the one where i did 2 g in 2 hrs
[10:20] <sebrock> rol what does ifconfig say
[10:20] <shatrat> AlessandroD, are you trying to connect directly between two computers iwth a normal ethernet cable?
[10:20] <sebrock> sorry rol iwconfig
[10:20] <rwxr-xr--> Password:
[10:20] <rwxr-xr--> root@freddy:~# trix
[10:20] <rwxr-xr--> trix: cannot connect to X server
[10:20] <rwxr-xr--> root@freddy:~#
[10:20] <lilrayray> xtknight: well Ill hope for the best
[10:20] <AlessandroD> so what do I do?
[10:20] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: stop asking about trix
[10:21] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia,  Why? its not supported linux? or Ubuntu?
[10:21] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: did you install it from the ubuntu repo's
[10:21] <lilrayray> sethk: just out of curiosity, what is something else (not online) that requires large amounts of ram consumption?
[10:21] <Caspe1> linux rules!!! just wish i knew what i was doing :)
[10:21] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, : no from the sourceforge
[10:21] <mike930> is there a kernel optimized for core 2 duo's?
[10:21] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: ok - so its not supported by ubuntu
[10:21] <lilrayray> Caspel: haha, just as I feel
[10:22] <ikonia> mike930: no
[10:22] <sethk> lilrayray, oh, open office writer will use a ton of memory, especially with a large file
[10:22] <IndyGunFreak> Caspe1: I'm pretty sure its System/Preferences/Preferred Applications...  then make the command "Opera"..
[10:22] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, : well i m totally new dont know much about at all .. sorry
[10:22] <joker73_> so is there any one who have a ide on what if any is the best sulution to get any of the cool 3d desktop on a gf2 ?
[10:22] <mike930> ikonia: which kernel is better for duo's?
[10:22] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: ok - you need to find the trix support group
[10:22] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, : using ubuntu 1st time..
[10:22] <Caspe1> thanks indy
[10:22] <xtknight> mike930, there is an arch you can choose for 'core 2 duo' in kernel config.
[10:22] <ikonia> mike930: there is only the generic kernel
[10:22] <lilrayray> sethk: ok, I guess i could try filling up a couple of pages and see if it crashes
[10:22] <sethk> lilrayray, if you have it installed, it's a good test.
[10:22] <shatrat> mikalaukka, just use the -generic kernel if youre on edgy, it will pick up the SMP
[10:22] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: your config/problems are nothing to do with ubuntu - find the trix support group
[10:22] <xtknight> mike930, not actually an arch rather a...sub-arch or something like it
[10:23] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, okie man :<
[10:23] <patrick_> Hi. Just wondering. I have a ubuntu server running php5 and apache.... and sending email with the php mail() function somehow takes a long time. Any ideas what can be slowing things down? Is there a setting somewhere I should change or something?
[10:23] <mike930> xtknight: will it improve speed?
[10:23] <sethk> lilrayray, you can use dd to create a large empty file or a large file with random data
[10:23] <xtknight> mike930, likely <1%
[10:23] <shatrat> mike930, what distro are you using? if youre on edgy just use -generic
[10:23] <sethk> mike930, depends on what you are doing, but not as dramatically as you might think
[10:23] <mike930> so should I stick with generic?
[10:23] <AlessandroD> in GNOME's network manager and in ifconfig eth0 only has an IPv6 address. The loopback interface displays both IPv6 and IPv4.
[10:23] <ikonia> mike930: there is no other option
[10:23] <mike930> shatrat: edgy
[10:23] <xethx> can someone please walk me through installing this file " et-linux-2.55.x86.run"
[10:24] <sethk> AlessandroD, as long as ifconfig shows the ipv4 address, I wouldn't worry about what network manager shows
[10:24] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, is Ubuntu repo's have any app for local lan chat?
[10:24] <mike930> thanka
[10:24] <shatrat> xethx, there is a how-to on the ubuntuforums.org gaming section I believe.
[10:24] <xtknight> mike930, well i dont see why not to compile a core duo kernel even if there's ANY increase.  as long as you know how to  compile a kernel and it's not much trouble, why not.  youll als oget benefit from using 2.6.20 over 2.6.17 speedwise in a lot of cases
[10:24] <mikeconcepts> does anyone know a free newsgroup server?
[10:24] <mike930> thanks
[10:24] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: search them
[10:24] <I3ooI3oo_werking> sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[10:24] <joker73_> is it compiz or
[10:24] <lilrayray> sethk: I have 15 pages of text and it wont let me type anymore
[10:24] <ikonia> I3ooI3oo_werking: why are you doing that ?
[10:25] <AlessandroD> ifconfig shows IPv4 only in the loopback interface. eth0 only has IPv6 address...
[10:25] <sethk> lilrayray, what happens?  I have several documents over 50 pages.  what does it say?
[10:25] <Caspe1> any1 want to go for coffee? i need a break
[10:25] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Doing what Ikonia ?
[10:25] <jeanre> how do I enable userdir support in apache?
[10:25] <joker73_> is it compiz or beryl the best chose on a gf2 ?
[10:25] <shatrat> mikeconcepts, it's possible that your ISP provides one, check their web page.
[10:25] <sethk> AlessandroD, that's pretty odd.  Use ifconfig to set an IPv4 address
[10:25] <lilrayray> sethk: nothing, no freezing, I just cant type any more
[10:25] <ikonia> I3ooI3oo_werking: using the nvidia drivers
[10:26] <sethk> lilrayray, just no response, you mean?  if you go to a terminal, does it respond there?
[10:26] <mikeconcepts> I did and they do, this is for a friend in japan on eonet.ne.jp
[10:26] <I3ooI3oo_werking> cause i didn't know better
[10:26] <mike930> can you run nvidia-glx and beryl on generic kernel?
[10:26] <mikeconcepts> they don't provide newsgroups
[10:26] <I3ooI3oo_werking> and nobody in 3 days would answer me execpt u today
[10:26] <AlessandroD> how do I do that? I'm supposed to get it by DHCP from the Win computer
[10:26] <ikonia> I3ooI3oo_werking: but I spent time with you earlier explaining how to get your card working
[10:26] <ikonia> why ignore that advice
[10:26] <ikonia> after the time I spent
[10:26] <I3ooI3oo_werking> i know but am not home yet
[10:26] <cld2> anyone know what package contains X11/Xlib.h and X11/Xutil.h ?
[10:27] <ikonia> so why break your box rather than just wait until you get home
[10:27] <lilrayray> sethk: nope, it responds just fine, if I delete a character, I can enter in a character.  It just seems to have reached a limit
[10:27] <ikonia> just rude
[10:27] <I3ooI3oo_werking> not ignored still at working
[10:27] <LjL> !find Xlib.h | cld2
[10:27] <ubotu> cld2: File xlib.h found in graphviz-dev, kvirc-dev, libax25-dev, libcairo2-dev, libcegui-mk2-dev (and 8 others)
[10:27] <cld2> LjL: thanks again.
[10:27] <Craeo> If I have a .deb file, like I downloaded wine and I use tried to use dpkg -i command to install it but it says it was missing some libwine file. Isn't .deb files similar to rar or zip files?
[10:27] <LjL> cld2: eew. well they're really in...
[10:27] <xtknight> mike930, yes you can ru nti on a general
[10:27] <sethk> lilrayray, hmm., that's really odd.  I just opened up a 65 pager, just to be sure I wasn't telling lies here.
[10:27] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Ikonia if you could get my boss to less me go so i could try that out like you suggested i would
[10:27] <xethx> shatrat, Nope
[10:27] <ikonia> I3ooI3oo_werking: so what are you installin the nvidia drivers on ?
[10:27] <xtknight> mike930, ..yes you can run it on a generic*
[10:27] <lilrayray> sethk: ubuntu doesnt like me
[10:28] <LjL> cld2: libx11-dev
[10:28] <emet> Craeo, no they aren't
[10:28] <sethk> lilrayray, doesn't like something about your hardware, perhaps
[10:28] <cld2> LjL: thanks.
[10:28] <emet> Craeo, I recommend "apt-get install wine" to install Wine
[10:28] <I3ooI3oo_werking> I am not installing anything somebody asked how to run that file
[10:28] <I3ooI3oo_werking> i answered
[10:28] <Dumahen> !apache
[10:28] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:28] <ikonia> I see
[10:28] <LjL> cld2: and to look this kind of thing up for yourself, you can use
[10:28] <lilrayray> sethk: I suppose that is the main thing holding linux back from becoming a widely used (more so) OS
[10:28] <LjL> !apt-file > cld2    (cld2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:28] <Craeo> emet: Is that the command line I should use? 'sudo apt-get install'
[10:28] <pfein_> So I just picked up a second card (USB), in addition to my laptop's built-in one.  How can I get amarok to use it?
[10:29] <I3ooI3oo_werking> s/he ask how to install a .run file
[10:29] <cld2> LjL: thanks very much for that last tip as well
[10:29] <ro1> when I run a iwconfig my wla0 comes up with no wireless extentions
[10:29] <emet> yes always use sudo if you need root
[10:29] <sethk> lilrayray, it really doesn't happen frequently.  I have dozens of machines running it here, and many more at work.  I've only come across one x86 architecture machine that would simply not run it, and it was using a weird NEC processor.
[10:29] <emet> sudo is very important command in ubuntu
[10:29] <emet> and so is apt-get
[10:30] <I3ooI3oo_werking> thanks again for the help i will let you know if it helped me out... if not i will come back and give you shit since you were so nice helping me backhandly as it was...
[10:30] <ikonia> language !
[10:30] <ikonia> whats the need for the language
[10:30] <Checkka> !java
[10:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:30] <Caspe1> i hate avi codecs soo much at the momemt, im loosing the battle, i hate loosing!!!
[10:31] <lilrayray> sethk: well, Im using a dell and their mobos tend to be a little quirky
[10:31] <sethk> lilrayray, yes, quite so.
[10:31] <con-man> I have no sounds, speakers work fine, Detects audio card, mixer sliders appear to good, any ideas?
[10:31] <sethk> lilrayray, actually, not exactly quirky, just cheap POSs.  :)
[10:31] <Qaldune> con-man run alsamixer
[10:31] <lilrayray> sethk: Im thinking about investing and simply replacing the mobo/fan/and cpu
[10:32] <xethx> can someone please walk me through installing  et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[10:32] <xtknight> lilrayray, what mobo again?
[10:32] <razzorz> when loading Java ... what packages am i lookin for?
[10:32] <xtknight> xethx, sh et-linux...run
[10:32] <ikonia> xethx: why are you not using the drivers out of the ubuntu repo's
[10:32] <con-man> Qaldune: did that
[10:32] <xtknight> et-linux is not a driver
[10:32] <xtknight> enemy territory :)
[10:32] <sethk> lilrayray, I've found that good parts are worth the investment, especially if you are only building one or two machines.
[10:32] <AlessandroD> how do I do that? I'm supposed to get it by DHCP from the Win computer
[10:32] <Qaldune> con-man can't help you further sorry
[10:32] <lilrayray> xtknight: what I currently have? I think it is a dell based off of the Intel 945p chipset
[10:32] <xethx> ikonia, is it in ubu's repos?
[10:32] <erisco> how do you preserve empty directories when making a tar?
[10:33] <xethx> ikonia, and waht drivers
[10:33] <xtknight> xethx, enemy territory is not in the repositories
[10:33] <ikonia> xethx: nvidia drivers are in the ubuntu repo's. Isn't that package an nvidia driver (I could be wrong)
[10:33] <lilrayray> sethk: well a quad intel would certainly wipe my PD all over the floor
[10:33] <ikonia> erisco: it should do
[10:33] <cpk1> AlessandroD: try running dhclient if you are trying to get an ip form a dhcp server
[10:33] <xtknight> ikonia, it's actually a .run package for Wolfenstein Enemy Territory (game)
[10:33] <hendaus> hiya
[10:33] <ikonia> xtknight: ahhh
[10:33] <sethk> erisco, try --preserve
[10:33] <xethx> ikonia, no thats not, its the game
[10:33] <erisco> ikonia, on default it isn't. I read the entire --help
[10:33] <hendaus> can anyone help me
[10:33] <ikonia> xtknight: thought it was nvidia
[10:33] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: u busy???
[10:33] <xtknight> even then i'd recommend using latest .run drivers from nvidia
[10:33] <ikonia> erisco: if you do tar cvf /var/tmp/file.tar . it will preserve emtpy dirs
[10:34] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, a tad
[10:34] <razzorz> anyone? ... when loading pokerstars it askes for java enviroment.... what am i looking for?
[10:34] <AlessandroD> lhanks for the help, 'll do it now
[10:34] <ikonia> razzorz: "java"
[10:34] <boingolov> razzorz, it's looking for a...  java environment ;)
[10:34] <xtknight> lilrayray, sudo lshw -short -class system
[10:34] <sethk> lilrayray, sure, but remember that the payback for multi-core is relatively small.  Unless it is a very heavily used server, you may not actually feel any improvement on a 4 core box vs. a two core box
[10:34] <bruenig> !es | hendaus
[10:34] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: how do i get to read and write my ntfs hardisks
[10:34] <ubotu> hendaus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:34] <riaal> what grapical apt is best for connecting to a wireless?
[10:34] <xtknight> !ntfs-3g | Dreamxtreme
[10:34] <ubotu> Dreamxtreme: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:35] <xtknight> lilrayray, that should give u ur mainboard's name
[10:35] <hendaus> bruenig,  sorry but i want help from here
[10:35] <lilrayray> sethk: i do a lot of CG as a hobby so I would benefit greatly from a quad
[10:35] <Dreamxtreme> cheers
[10:35] <ro1> hello?
[10:35] <lilrayray> xtknight: ok, one sec
[10:35] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: cheers
[10:35] <sethk> lilrayray, ok, sounds like you've checked it out.
[10:35] <chktckt> How can I merge directories?
[10:35] <sethk> lilrayray, some people labor under the misconception that a quad core box will go twice as fast as a dual core.
[10:35] <chktckt> I have a directory /root/fake-root-directory and I want to merge the contents of that into the root directory.
[10:35] <chktckt> So there's a /root/fake-root-directory/etc/samba/smb.conf for example. How would I be able to get that as well as /root/fake-root-directory/usr/sbin/myprog installed in the appropriate places in / ?
[10:36] <lilrayray> xtknight: Dell DXP051
[10:36] <razzorz> boninholv: i know this.. i typed in "java"  what do i need ??? ie : java-gcj-compat-plugin, Java runtime environment with GCJ, Java runtime environment using GIJ   ????
[10:36] <sethk> chktckt, cp -av  (the v part just makes it noisy)
[10:36] <lilrayray> sethk: certainly faster as long as the program is multi-threaded
[10:36] <pdxuser> Hey, I'm running Ubuntu for the first time!  Yay for me!  But I have a problem...
[10:36] <hendaus> bruenig,  i am coming back from work, i come back to anyone can help
[10:36] <runlevel-work> root
[10:36] <chktckt> sethk: It's not an archive though.
[10:36] <runlevel-work> Jdis8s0
[10:36] <runlevel-work> uh
[10:36] <runlevel-work> ooops
[10:36] <chktckt> sethk: It's a directory structure. Would that still work?
[10:36] <sethk> lilrayray, not always.  depends on how well written the thing is.  It's quite easy to build a multithreaded program where all the threads except one are waiting.  :)
[10:37] <sethk> chktckt, yes
[10:37] <sethk> chktckt, you can also use tar in copy mode, but that's a bit trickier.  If cp -a won't do what you need, I'll talk to you about using tar to copy
[10:37] <lilrayray> sethk: true, but commercial 3D software runs nicely
[10:37] <^Albe^> hi to all, fast question: wich on is better ubu or kubu to setup a wireless wpa lan?
[10:37] <sethk> lilrayray, yes, I'd hope so.
[10:37] <Caspe1> ok who wants to help me with getting avi to work, i swear ive tried everything except the correctway
[10:37] <erisco> ikonia, I did  "$tar -vcf test.tar test" but it still did not preserve empty directories
[10:37] <shatrat> !ask | pdxuser
[10:37] <ubotu> pdxuser: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:38] <lilrayray> sethk: I wish the OSes would benefit more from them
[10:38] <sethk> erisco, try --preserve
[10:38] <sethk> lilrayray, indeed.  Time for a new OS  :)
[10:38] <sethk> lilrayray, you write it, and I'll tell you why it's no good.  :)
[10:38] <ro1> If my lshw lists my wireless card as simply ethernet should I be looking at my drivers?
[10:39] <chktckt> I don't want anything destroyed that already exists. Like if I have /etc/subdir and if I have /root/fake-root-directory/etc without /root/fake-root-directory/etc/subdir, I don't want /etc to lose subdir.
[10:39] <lilrayray> sethk: yes, with my minimal knowledge of C++
[10:39] <hendaus> somebody help me :)
[10:39] <sethk> lilrayray, I was commenting on the relative difficulty of doing something, vs. sniping at it.  :)
[10:39] <Knight_Lord> How I replace the contents of a file without changing its timestamp in an easy way?
[10:39] <lilrayray> sethk: oh, haha
[10:39] <pdxuser> I can run it fine from the CD on my new computer, but trying to run and then install it from the CD on my old computer won't work.  It runs incredibly slowly off the CD, there's an error saying some bit of Ubuntu that displays the visual style won't run but that it will try to run it next time and that it's ok if it's not running, and then when I click the Install icon it churns away for literally a couple minutes then hangs so
[10:39] <erisco> sethk, no luck :(
[10:40] <sethk> chktckt, you won't lose things.  You can cover up one version with another if you aren't careful.
[10:40] <Caspe1> hendaus, id help u, but i cant help myself, so sorry
[10:40] <sethk> erisco, I just ran a quick test, and I preserved my empty directories.
[10:40] <xtknight> Knight_Lord, use the 'touch --time 'command to restore a particular timestamp
[10:40] <pdxuser> (it = Ubuntu)
[10:40] <sethk> erisco, tell up specifically what you are doing, exactly what command line you used.
[10:40] <lilrayray> sethk: is it possible that these freezing problems could be a problem with my wireless adapter?
[10:40] <Knight_Lord> xtknight thank you so much :-)
[10:40] <xtknight> Knight_Lord, or copy, then use touch -r oldfile newfile  it uses oldfile as a ref for timestamp
[10:40] <razzorz> bought a enclosure kit for my many ide drives.... whats a good formating toll so i can use in with linux... curently NTFS...
[10:40] <erisco> sethk, I tried "$tar --preserve -cf test.tar test" and "$tar -cf test.tar test --preserve" without avail
[10:41] <Knight_Lord> xtknight that's even better :-)
[10:41] <sethk> lilrayray, sure, if there is a hardware problem, anything that generates interrupts are possible causes.
[10:41] <hendaus> Caspe1, ok thanx :) but i have a movie film.DAT and i want to burn it as vcd
[10:41] <p_masho> how can I find out what "depth" my current screen is? can see the resolutions but not the former ?
[10:41] <Knight_Lord> xtknight thanks for the tip
[10:41] <xtknight> Knight_Lord, no problem
[10:41] <sethk> erisco, I'll try again here, hold on a moment.
[10:41] <boingolov> erisco, man fdisk and mke2fs
[10:42] <^Albe^> wich one is better ubu or kubu to setup a wireless wpa lan? reading around seems that ubu need k for setup it
[10:42] <Akuma> anyone here uses VirtualBox?
[10:42] <Caspe1> hmm, i understand ur problem, i wish u the very best of luck with it, i cant even get avi codecs to play
[10:42] <^Albe^> is that true?
[10:42] <lilrayray> sethk: thanks again for the help, Im going to try to get a d-link working to see if there is any improvement
[10:42] <pdxuser> Is it possible that a CD drive could read too slowly to run Ubuntu in a stable way?
[10:42] <sethk> erisco, It works fine here.  I didn't even need --preserve.  I just used tar cvjf tartest.tar.bz2 directory-name
[10:42] <evo_> pdxuser: unlikely, more likely a bad burn
[10:43] <sethk> erisco, created three empty directories.  In fact, the tar file has _only_ empty directories in it.
[10:43] <pdxuser> evo: It works fine on my newer computer.
[10:43] <razzorz> about that formating tool??? anyone?
[10:43] <evo_> any dmesg output pdxuser ?
[10:43] <erisco> sethk, then I have no idea what isn't working :( I even tried your exact line and it didn't work for me
[10:44] <erisco> sethk, it lists the empty directories but it doesn't put them in the archive
[10:44] <r4nge> if permitrootlogin is disabled, will i still be able to sudo from a remote pc
[10:44] <jrib> r4nge: yes
[10:44] <sethk> erisco, I created the archive, and extracted from it, and it created all of the empty directories.
[10:44] <Caspe1> any1 know how to play avi files?
[10:44] <jrib> !avi | Caspe1
[10:44] <ubotu> Caspe1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:44] <bigjohnto> how can i make xming recognize my second monitor as its display instead of my first monitor
[10:44] <erisco> sethk, maybe it is my archive viewer?
[10:44] <r4nge> ok, because i just went trhough my auth logs and i've had quite a few attempts from countries like china and korea at logging into my box with root
[10:45] <Caspe1> been to those sites, done them all, and doesntwork, but ill try again
[10:45] <razzorz> its okay i am patient
[10:45] <pdxuser> evo: It got to the desktop (verrrry slowly), and there was an error, but I didn't write it down.  It was some file that displayed a particular style, if I remember at all correctly.
[10:45] <sethk> erisco, possibly.  Just extract from the archive, then use ls to see if the directories were created.  (extract to a different place, of course.)
[10:45] <pdxuser> evo: I'll try again and copy it all down.
[10:45] <evo_> pdxuser: okay
[10:45] <erisco> sethk, well go figure that one =\
[10:46] <jrib> r4nge: I would recommend not using passwords, just use ssh keys.  And you might also be interested in the denyhosts package
[10:46] <erisco> sethk, was working the whole time?!? gah :P
[10:46] <sethk> erisco, I ould have thought of that earlier
[10:46] <r4nge> jrib: well i dont have a root password set actually
[10:47] <r4nge> so i guess i was safe somewhat
[10:47] <razzorz> jrib: know of a good formating progy?
[10:47] <evo_> fdisk?
[10:47] <jrib> razzorz: formatting disks?
[10:47] <razzorz> ya..
[10:47] <erisco> sethk, well thanks! great to finally get on with this :P
[10:47] <razzorz> got a drive Ntfs
[10:47] <LjL> fdisk doesn't format.
[10:47] <razzorz> want to load tunz on it
[10:48] <razzorz> for windows sure
[10:48] <razzorz> not here
[10:48] <sethk> erisco, usually, when wheels are spinning, we overlook something simple.  not always, but frequently.
[10:48] <erisco> sethk, how true =\
[10:48] <evo_> you want to read that disk from windows and linux? format it to fat32
[10:48] <LjL> fdisk doesn't format even on windows (at least i think)
[10:48] <tj_> whats a easy to install osx like dock
[10:48] <razzorz> any thoughts ???
[10:49] <evo_> kiba-dock?
[10:49] <tj_> i have gdesklets and don't really like it
[10:49] <pandoras> guten Morgen
[10:49] <warlock> I have a ftp account called "pub" (using pure-ftpd) - I was wondering how to make the dir /var/www/pub so people cannot delete files/edit files/or create dirs - just be able to upload files? anyone?
[10:49] <zelrikriando> hello
[10:49] <LjL> !de > pandoras    (pandoras, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:49] <pandoras> Habe wieder ein kleines Problem
[10:49] <zelrikriando> I need help
[10:49] <razzorz> just post your question
[10:49] <zelrikriando> FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[10:49] <tj_> i installed kiba-dock and it acts really wierd when i load it no icons and they just go everywhere
[10:50] <LjL> zelrikriando: try with modprobe instead of insmod - if that's what you did
[10:50] <evo_> tj_: try a more recent version, cvs maybe
[10:50] <zelrikriando> it is modprobe
[10:50] <jrib> razzorz: you can use gparted   I'd recommend ext3 if you want to use it from both windows and linux (linux can do ext2 using fs-driver.org)
[10:50] <j_> i have x11forwarding set to yes in sshd_config but application still report not being able connect to display.  it does work when connecting to my gentoo box, so i know the client is setup properlly.  any ideas?
[10:50] <sethk> zelrikriando, that driver was not compiled for that kernel
[10:50] <evo_> you mean windows can do ext2
[10:50] <zelrikriando> ?
[10:50] <tj_> ok i just used a howto that was in the forums
[10:50] <evo_> it will do ext2+ext3
[10:50] <razzorz> yes i think i will just go to windows and do it with Pmagic i guess
[10:51] <Heroin> can someone help me install and config a postfix server?
[10:51] <razzorz> figured i could do it here
[10:51] <zelrikriando> I am getting mad I am working on this issue since 8hours
[10:51] <jrib> razzorz: you can, I just told you how
[10:51] <ciaron> who makes the fastest usb pen drives?
[10:51] <razzorz> i am on it...
[10:51] <razzorz> ty
[10:51] <evo_> zelrikriando: your error message asked you to check 'dmesg' output, did you?
[10:51] <mh1> Hello? Can anyone here help me with some encoding issues?
[10:51] <zelrikriando> the output is HUGE
[10:51] <sethk> Heroin, what problem are you having?
[10:52] <jrib> mh1: maybe, but we'd need more info
[10:52] <evo_> try find the applicable bits, probably near the end of that output
[10:52] <mh1> jrib: thanks, I'll describe my problem:
[10:52] <warlock> I have a ftp account called "pub" (using pure-ftpd) - I was wondering how to make the dir /var/www/pub so people cannot delete files/edit files/or create dirs - just be able to upload files? anyone?
[10:52] <zelrikriando> the output do not fit on my screen
[10:53] <zelrikriando> I am so mad
[10:53] <zelrikriando> all of this to make a sound card work
[10:53] <evo_> warlock: chmod 555 /var/www/pub
[10:53] <sethk> zelrikriando, the output is useless.  I told you, that driver wasn't compiled for that kernel.
[10:53] <godtvisken> if i'm using vncviewer, what port should i forward to allow me to access my computer outside of my network?
[10:53] <mh1> jrib: I installed edgy with UTF-8 but I changed it to iso-8859-1 because sometimes I have to ssh machines with iso-8559-1 and I don't want those question marks
[10:53] <zelrikriando> so what should I do sethk?
[10:54] <sethk> zelrikriando, I'd try reinstalling the kernel, which should also reinstall all the modules.
[10:54] <hendaus> bruenig,  take your rest :)
[10:54] <Lucifel> godtvisken: 5900 by default
[10:54] <panfist> when using VMware server, at times it sends the mem usage of all my gui apps to 4GB(term window, firefox, xchat, etc) causing serious slowdown, is this normal?
[10:54] <sethk> zelrikriando, should get you a consistent set.
[10:54] <zelrikriando> what do you mean
[10:54] <sethk> panfist, yes.
[10:54] <zelrikriando> re install ubuntu ?
[10:54] <sethk> zelrikriando, no, just the kernel
[10:54] <mh1> jrib: however, once I changed to iso-8559, emacs got screwed up
[10:55] <zelrikriando> I dont understand
[10:55] <sethk> zelrikriando, you can find the package for the kernel and use apt-get or synaptic to install it.
[10:55] <panfist> sethk why would it cause the memory usage of apps other than itself to go up that high?
[10:55] <sethk> zelrikriando, reinstall, actually.  The exact package name depends on what version you are running.
[10:55] <mh1> jrib: more accurately, emacs does not accept dead keys anymore
[10:55] <sethk> panfist, it's poorly written.
[10:55] <sethk> panfist, IMHO, of course.
[10:55] <zelrikriando> how do I do that
[10:55] <sethk> panfist, to be fair, emulators are extremely difficult to program.
[10:56] <xethx> When i was trying to install Enemy Teritory i got this error /root/.setup26396: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:56] <xethx> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[10:56] <sethk> zelrikriando, something like:   apt-get --reinstall package-name
[10:56] <xethx> can anyone help me?
[10:56] <jrib> mh1: sorry, you should state the problem on one line and address the channel (I don't really know what is going on there)
[10:56] <zelrikriando> which package ?
[10:56] <atlas95> anyone can send me the script which display battery state when pressing the good function key on a laptop please?
[10:56] <sethk> xethx, the program needs the older version of gtk
[10:56] <sethk> zelrikriando, what version of ubuntu did you install?
[10:56] <xethx> sethk, is that a bad thing?
[10:56] <Heroin> sethk i dont know howto set it up :X
[10:56] <zelrikriando> the current stable version
[10:57] <zelrikriando> hold on
[10:57] <r4nge> after i've updated my "limits.conf" do i have to reboot server
[10:57] <sethk> xethx, no, it just means you have to install the older libraries.
[10:57] <Heroin> ive been trying for 5 hours
[10:57] <GoetzC> hola
[10:57] <sethk> xethx, they are available.
[10:57] <karl-erik> Hi. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10257/ Could really, really use help with this. Got a project tomorrow, and... Any help appreciated tons.
[10:57] <xethx> sethk, is it a tedious or hard process?
[10:57] <mh1> jrib: thanks
[10:57] <zelrikriando> I think it is 6.10
[10:58] <sethk> Heroin, there is a tool available that makes it easy to configure.  I'll look it up for you.  (getting senile, the name escapes me for a moment here)
[10:58] <sethk> xethx, no.  do you have synaptic installed?
[10:58] <zelrikriando> Edgy Eft 6.10 Oct 2006
[10:58] <sethk> zelrikriando, let me see what the package name is on my 6.1 box.
[10:58] <Heroin> sethk that would rock
[10:58] <xethx> sethk, yes
[10:59] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10405/
[10:59] <sethk> xethx, Heroin, I have to take a phone call.  If nobody else knows, I'll be back in a couple of minutes.  (sorry)
[10:59] <reaspired> anyone know how to access alsa mixer via termial.
[10:59] <mh1> How can I make emacs accept dead keys input in my edgy with iso-8559-1 encoding?
[10:59] <Knight_Lord> reaspired  alsamixer
[11:00] <cables> I just switched agpgart to NvAGP in my Xorg.conf to make suspend and hibernate work, but now my system is running hotter than it used to. Any ideas?
[11:00] <sethk> Heroin, webmin.  I think  they took it out of the repos for the latest ubuntu releases, but it's available.
[11:00] <robby> im having a problem booting to a desktop enviro. i just installed kde and set it as my default so i would boot into kubuntu and it shows the loading screen and then goes to a terminal style login and stays in terminal
[11:00] <robby> any idea how to fix it?
[11:01] <robby> im booting from disc at the moment
[11:01] <jrib> robby: you don't get to the login screen?
[11:01] <sethk> zelrikriando, linux-generic         is probably the package name you want.
[11:01] <mh1> How can I make emacs accept dead keys input in my edgy with iso-8559-1 encoding? Emacs already reads files with accents correctly. The problem is in the input. Dead keys are working correcly in the terminal too
[11:01] <Dreamxtreme> can any1 tell me why i get this every time i install something E: f-prot-installer: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:01] <robby> jrib: i dont get to the usual one i get to a terminal style one and it stays in terminal
[11:01] <robby> it never goes to a graphic mode
[11:02] <jrib> robby: check if gdm or xdm or kdm are running?
[11:02] <zelrikriando> so I do  : apt-get --reinstall linux-generic ?
[11:02] <robby> kdm runs
[11:02] <robby> but doesnt show anything
[11:02] <robby> ive tryed reloading it but i cant
[11:03] <emet> kill dash nine
[11:03] <sethk> zelrikriando, give that a try, yes.  use sudo:    sudo apt-get .....
[11:03] <jrib> robby: so what shows up when you go to ctrl-alt-f7 now?
[11:03] <zelrikriando> I am as root
[11:03] <robby> whats that do?
[11:03] <jrib> robby: switches you to where X normally runs, ctrl-alt-f1 should get you back
[11:03] <Dreamxtreme> any1 E: f-prot-installer: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:03] <Dreamxtreme> ???
[11:03] <robby> k thnx ill check it out
[11:03] <jrib> robby: wait
[11:03] <robby> k
[11:04] <Heroin> GREAT
[11:04] <Heroin> i just totally fucked up my server
[11:04] <zelrikriando> it doesnt work
[11:04] <cchance> How do i lock the settings in firefox so that it stays on port 8080 so that no one will go past my internet filtering
[11:04] <jrib> robby: you'll also want to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log if X is failing to start.  And try to stop kdm and then start it again and see if you get any errors:  sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop    and to start: sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start
[11:04] <alka> i speak spanish
[11:04] <jrib> !es | alka
[11:04] <ubotu> alka: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:04] <jrib> !language | Heroin
[11:04] <ubotu> Heroin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:05] <mauryli> ubuntu-it
[11:05] <zelrikriando> it says that linux-generic is not valid
[11:05] <robby> ok ill check that
[11:05] <robby> thnx
[11:05] <bigjohnto> anyone familiar with xming?
[11:05] <robby> ill brb if taht doesnt work
[11:05] <AlessandroD> I have a probtem connecting t a Windows computer via Ethernet cable DHCP
[11:05] <jrib> robby: be sure to post that log if you come back :)
[11:05] <willcodeforwork> is it possible to upgrade just *one* package? apt-get upgrade [packagename]  tries to update everything
[11:05] <zelrikriando> the operation linux-generic is not valid
[11:05] <jrib> willcodeforwork: apt-get install package
[11:05] <willcodeforwork> jrib: it's reinstalling the same version
[11:05] <apex`> can i do screenshot from console?
[11:05] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD can you be more specific?
[11:06] <zelrikriando> sethk?
[11:06] <sethk> zelrikriando, sorry, try:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-generic
[11:06] <jrib> willcodeforwork: what does 'apt-cache policy PACKAGE' show you?
[11:06] <pdxuser> When I start Ubuntu off a CD, I get this error as the desktop loads: "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.  The last error message was: Did not receive a reply."  It says this will affect aesthetics like themes and sounds, and that GNOME will try to restart the Settings Daemon next time.  This doesn't seem like a big deal, does it?  Could it be related at all to what's causing my computer to lock up when I try
[11:06] <sethk> zelrikriando, you need a command, and "linux-generic" is in the command position, so it's complaining.
[11:06] <Knight_Lord> apex` try screendump
[11:06] <jrib> pdxuser: you got cut off at "lock up when I try"
[11:06] <zelrikriando> ok
[11:06] <zelrikriando> done already Oo
[11:07] <willcodeforwork> jrib: http://pastie.caboo.se/46951
[11:07] <zelrikriando> is it normal that it went fast?
[11:07] <kane77> me > /dev/bed
[11:07] <cchance> How do i lock the settings in firefox so that it stays on port 8080 so that no one will go past my internet filtering
[11:07] <jrib> willcodeforwork: seems like you have the latest version
[11:07] <willcodeforwork> hmm, it's not though
[11:07] <apex`> Knight_Lord, ok
[11:07] <jrib> !info imagemagick dapper
[11:07] <con-man> how do I send a global message to all users connected to my computer
[11:08] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.5 (dapper), package size 1577 kB, installed size 4068 kB
[11:08] <zelrikriando> and it doesnt fix my problem at all
[11:08] <con-man> anyone?
[11:08] <Askar> I cannot change my ubuntu main menu icon...please help!
[11:08] <willcodeforwork> trying to install 6.3.2 or later
[11:08] <sethk> zelrikriando, it should take a bit of time, at least a minute.
[11:08] <AlessandroD> I have a Ubuntu/Windws box connected to a Windows box via an Ethernet cable. Network works on Win<->Win, but Ubu<->Win Does't work. I've been told to use dhclient . I've used it and it haven't worked. I can paste the output if needed...
[11:08] <con-man> someone?
[11:08] <jrib> willcodeforwork: why do you believe it is not?
[11:08] <con-man> I forget the command
[11:09] <poningru> con-man: talkd
[11:09] <jrib> con-man: wall
[11:09] <poningru> or that
[11:09] <willcodeforwork> jrib: I have 6.3.1 on my laptop, and it has a feature that 6.2.4 does not
[11:09] <pfein_> So I just picked up a second card (USB), in addition to my laptop's built-in one.  How can I get amarok to use it?
[11:09] <con-man> how do I send a global message to all users connected to my computer
[11:09] <con-man> jrib: that doesnt really do anything
[11:09] <alka> how i can to use root mode, because i don't can after installing with cd
[11:09] <willcodeforwork> con-man: echo "test" | wall
[11:09] <mrpoundsign> ugh.  evolution-exchange is off by an hour (not updated for new DST in the Pacific timezone)
[11:09] <Nemes> Is there a command to append a line to an existing file?
[11:09] <aim1159> gwern_:      ??
[11:10] <jrib> willcodeforwork: do 'apt-cache policy imagemagick' on the laptop and find out where it is from.  Are they both dapper?
[11:10] <zelrikriando> it took 2sec
[11:10] <cchance> How do i lock the settings in firefox so that it stays on port 8080 so that no one will go past my internet filtering
[11:10] <sethk> Nemes,   cat whatever >> filename
[11:10] <willcodeforwork> jrib: laptop is OS X, imagemagick compiled manually
[11:10] <erUSUL> Nemes: echo "line" >> file
[11:10] <Nemes> Thanks
[11:10] <sethk> Nemes, in general,  ">> filename"   means "add to filename"
[11:10] <shatrat> !sudo | alka You dont log in as root in ubuntu.
[11:10] <ubotu> alka You dont log in as root in ubuntu.: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:10] <AlessandroD> I have a Ubuntu/Windws box connected to a Windows box via an Ethernet cable. Network works on Win<->Win, but Ubu<->Win Does't work. I've been told to use dhclient . I've used it and it haven't worked. I can paste the output if needed...
[11:10] <exs> does anyone know any bootable  ubuntu cd that incorperates the nvidia driver and beryl/compiz so that you can stick it in a computer (without installing) and have the beryl 3d/compiz experience straight away?
[11:10] <jrib> willcodeforwork: yes, you have the latest version in the repositories, you'll needs to compile manually if you don't want the version in the repositories (or check !backports)
[11:10] <Nemes> sethk, thank you very much
[11:11] <gwern_> aim1159 . (8
[11:11] <Askar> !backports
[11:11] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:11] <warlock> evo_
[11:11] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD you shouldn't need to use dhclient in any special way
[11:11] <willcodeforwork> ugh, do they stop releasing packages for certain distros (i.e., dapper)?
[11:11] <evo_> warlock
[11:11] <con-man> ireally wish my sound would work
[11:11] <aim1159> gwern_: .   ?
[11:11] <warlock> now I can't upload files to the ftp eaither, you told me to chmod 555 /var/www/pub
[11:11] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD why do you say it only works in one direction? What are you using for testing?
[11:11] <evo_> you want to upload files?
[11:11] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD are you trying to ping the IP?
[11:11] <aim1159> gwern_:  ubuntu  ?
[11:11] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Just got back. good to see your system is working now :)
[11:11] <jrib> Askar: do you feel comfortable exploring gconf-editor to change your icon?  It's somewhere in /apps/panel...
[11:11] <cables> willcodeforwork, they backport security updates/bugfixes but not the whole new versions of software.
[11:11] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD do you have a DHCP server in the windows box?
[11:11] <evo_> but you dont want to be able to download?
[11:12] <warlock> Yes, but not edit/remove/create new folders in the dir /var/www/pub - just upload files and be able to download them
[11:12] <cchance> How do i lock the settings in firefox so that it stays on port 8080 so that no one will go past my internet filtering
[11:12] <willcodeforwork> weak
[11:12] <Askar> jrib: Yeah..tried that..still no sucess
[11:12] <Knight_Lord> cchance what do you mean by locking the settings?
[11:12] <gwern_> aim1159  
[11:12] <cchance> i mean so they cant be changed
[11:12] <aim1159> gwern_:  
[11:12] <gwern_> aim1159  (8
[11:12] <Knight_Lord> cchance I don't think you can restrict which port firefox accesses pages at
[11:12] <warlock> Any ideas evo_ ?
[11:12] <warlock> brb, gonna go grab a smoke mate
[11:12] <zelrikriando> maybe I should delete ubuntu and restart from scratch
[11:12] <Knight_Lord> cchance the syntax URL:port should always work
[11:12] <gwern_>  .       ((8
[11:13] <jrib> gwern_: english
[11:13] <Knight_Lord> cchance you can block at the firewall level though
[11:13] <cchance> well something has got to give. They keep getting around it and ive keept adding the proxie sites to the list i have 23 now
[11:13] <AlessandroD> trying to ping results in "Network unreachable" or something like that.. What I tried to say is that I dual boot, and with windows it worbs, so the problem isn't the physical layer
[11:13] <Knight_Lord> cchance what are you trying to do?
[11:13] <syntaxshadow> finally
[11:13] <syntaxshadow> i got in
[11:13] <bobblag> mauryli, vieni in ubuntu-it
[11:14] <syntaxshadow> hi everyone
[11:14] <cchance> Keep them from using any other port besides 8080 and the official stuff like ftp and pop
[11:14] <Knight_Lord> cchance why don't you firewall the rest then?
[11:14] <cchance> so they always go through my filter
[11:14] <zelrikriando> HeLLO ?
[11:14] <syntaxshadow> hi
[11:14] <megafauna> hi, where is my xorg.config (graphics driver file) stored so I can back it up? /etc....
[11:14] <Knight_Lord> cchance if you block firefox they will use konqueror
[11:14] <Knight_Lord> cchance and then opera, and then lynx
[11:14] <Knight_Lord> cchance and so on
[11:14] <cchance> because the setup i did had me install other stuff and i dont know what to do
[11:14] <zelrikriando> sethk?
[11:15] <cchance> But that is restricted on the other accounts
[11:15] <willcodeforwork> jrib: any clues as to how the package was compiled? so I can try to get as close as possible?
[11:15] <evo_> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:15] <sethk> zelrikriando, hold on a moment, I'm on a call here.
[11:15] <syntaxshadow> wow alot of ppl need help
[11:15] <cchance> to download stuff via a synaptic or add/remove
[11:15] <Knight_Lord> cchance so the other accounts don't have shell access?
[11:15] <zelrikriando> oh no O_O I lost my helper
[11:15] <cchance> no
[11:15] <syntaxshadow> I need help with a printer driver
[11:15] <AlessandroD> I have a Ubuntu/Windws box connected to a Windows box via an Ethernet cable. Network works on Win<->Win, but Ubu<->Win Does't work. I've been told to use dhclient . I've used it and it haven't worked. I can paste the output if needed...
[11:15] <Knight_Lord> cchance I have doubts it's possible to do that
[11:15] <syntaxshadow> not sure if there is a que to wait in or what
[11:15] <Knight_Lord> cchance I would certainly not rely on it
[11:15] <jrib> willcodeforwork: apt-get source imagemagick    take a look at debian/rules
[11:15] <willcodeforwork> jrib: thanks
[11:15] <cchance> any way.
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance try installing IP tables
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance and build a nice firewall with fwbuilder
[11:16] <cchance> i ahve that
[11:16] <cchance> have*
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance it's quite easy to use
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance and works great
[11:16] <cchance> forget it
[11:16] <zelrikriando> *take the ticket #1454334 and wait*
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance why is that?
[11:16] <syntaxshadow> so can anyone help out or what do i have to do to get someone to help me find a Dell all in one 922 printer driver
[11:16] <syntaxshadow> or an alternative
[11:16] <syntaxshadow> you ran him off knight lord
[11:17] <Knight_Lord> I tried my best
[11:17] <pdxmitch> Sorry, got logged off.  When I start Ubuntu off a CD on my old computer, I get an error saying the GNOME Settings Daemon couldn't start, that the last error was that there was no reply received, that this would effect things like themes and sounds, and that GNOME would try starting the Settings Daemon again next time.
[11:17] <syntaxshadow> what happened?
[11:17] <Checkka> is it possible to setup ubuntu as both a desktop and a server?
[11:17] <fisheye> hi
[11:17] <exs> does anyone know any bootable  ubuntu cd that incorperates the nvidia driver and beryl/compiz so that you can stick it in a computer (without installing) and have the beryl 3d/compiz experience straight away?
[11:17] <syntaxshadow> hi fisheye
[11:17] <fisheye> anyone from portugal ? :)
[11:17] <jrib> Askar: gconf-editor works here, just find the object that corresponds to the icon, check "use_custom_icon" and set a "custom_icon" path
[11:17] <pdxmitch> Could this be at all related to the fact that my old computer locks up after I click the install icon?
[11:17] <syntaxshadow> my ubuntu had an nvidia driver exs
[11:17] <syntaxshadow> but i dont  know about other
[11:17] <evo_> syntaxshadow: http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Dell
[11:17] <pdxmitch> It waits, and waits, and waits, then it's locked up.
[11:18] <evo_> looks like it's not supported?
[11:18] <exs> syntaxshadow:  yeah, but I want the live cd to have it auto-run with beryl/compiz
[11:18] <Knight_Lord> syntaxshadow he wanted to prevent someone from accessing the internet by blocking firefox to a given port. not much i could do to change his mind
[11:18] <syntaxshadow> not sure then
[11:18] <Knight_Lord> fisheye yes
[11:18] <fisheye> im getting some sort of error when i try to confiugure the keyboard
[11:18] <syntaxshadow> ah
[11:18] <pdxmitch> In fact, all of Ubuntu runs absurdly slowly.  It takes several minutes for icons to start showing up.
[11:18] <syntaxshadow> well knight if someone isn't going to debate with an open mind dont wast your ascii
[11:19] <Bigmac> Feist has seemed to make all of my internet connections seem to stop working.
[11:19] <fisheye> it says erro wen activating or configuring XKB
[11:19] <AlessandroD> Knight falas portugus?
[11:19] <syntaxshadow> thanks for the link evo i am going check it out right now
[11:19] <syntaxshadow> brb
[11:19] <Knight_Lord> syntaxshadow i tried to explain that there's no such feature in firefox and that even if there was that would not be enough to stop them from using other browsers to access other ports
[11:19] <fisheye> s tugas
[11:19] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD falo
[11:19] <AlessandroD> ajuda se eu explicar meu problema em PT?
[11:19] <Knight_Lord> Sim, but we better speak in english, or somewhere else
[11:19] <evo_> syntaxshadow: i'm afraid it's very bad news regarding your printer, but you're welcome ;)
[11:20] <AlessandroD> ok...
[11:21] <ante> can somebody tell me how i can remove some files from my desktop (or pc) when they are locked?
[11:21] <bruenig> ante, sudo rm them
[11:21] <ante> bruenig, what is that
[11:21] <Knight_Lord> ante if you have shell access you can usually just cd to the Desktop directory
[11:21] <Knight_Lord> ante have you ever used a shell? Do you know what it is?
[11:22] <bruenig> ante, applications>accessories>terminal and the command is sudo rm file (replace file with what it actually is)
[11:22] <ante> Knight_Lord, no
[11:22] <Knight_Lord> ante follow bruenig's instructions
[11:22] <maris> !samba
[11:22] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:22] <bruenig> ante, I don't know if that is a good thing or bad thing, I guess that means ubuntu has really advanced, which is good.
[11:22] <eavawter> hello A/all
[11:22] <Slart> hmm.. is it worth the trouble to compile my own kernel? it seems the kernel boys are a couple of versions ahead of what ubuntu gives me
[11:22] <zelrikriando> I need an expert OO
[11:23] <bruenig> !kernel
[11:23] <syntaxshadow> man it has been a while since i was in a chat room
[11:23] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:23] <Knight_Lord> bruenig I think it's good
[11:23] <eavawter> any one here that can help me with ndiswrapper?
[11:23] <Slart> or is this a "if it aint broke..."
[11:23] <matkix0s> What is the fastest way to install decoders for WMA, MP3 and others? I just want to install as many as I can!
[11:23] <matkix0s> !decoders
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decoders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <jrib> !codecs | matkix0s
[11:23] <ubotu> matkix0s: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:23] <LjL> !w32codecs
[11:23] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:23] <syntaxshadow> taking about to get used to keeping up with the speed of a chatroom
[11:23] <jrib> syntaxshadow: s/chatroom/channel
[11:23] <fisheye> crap, i cant do it... im getting this configuration error in XKB.... something wrong with some libraries...
[11:23] <willcodeforwork> jrib: where does it put debian/rules?
[11:23] <bruenig> !prefix | syntaxshadow it is all pretty bearable if you do this
[11:23] <ubotu> syntaxshadow it is all pretty bearable if you do this: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[11:23] <AlessandroD> so, I think my problem has to do with ubuntu not assigning IPv4 addrasses
[11:24] <Knight_Lord> fisheye what are you trying to do?
[11:24] <jrib> willcodeforwork: you'll get an imagemagick* directory with debian/rules inside
[11:24] <fisheye> put my keyboard in portuguese
[11:24] <syntaxshadow> what do you mean jrib?
[11:24] <syntaxshadow> \
[11:24] <ante> this is the thing, i put some mp3 foledrs from cd to my desktop, and now there is a key which means that i can`t put them in trash
[11:24] <willcodeforwork> ooh, in CWD, got it
[11:24] <fisheye> but i get an error message from some libraries
[11:24] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD where is your DHCP server?
[11:24] <AlessandroD> 192.168.0.1
[11:24] <jrib> syntaxshadow: s/foo/bar  means replace "foo" with "bar"
[11:24] <syntaxshadow> i am just saying the chat is moving fast and it is a bit harder to keep up
[11:24] <Knight_Lord> fisheye how are you trying to put it? In console or X?
[11:24] <hendaus> somebody help me :)
[11:24] <hendaus> please
[11:24] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD is that the windows box?
[11:24] <fisheye> i'm using the gui, in gnome
[11:24] <zelrikriando> hendaus no
[11:25] <Knight_Lord> fisheye try from a xterminal to do the following
[11:25] <bruenig> ante, ok go to applications>accessories>terminal and do this for me "cd Desktop" and then do "sudo rm *.mp3" just copy and paste those into the terminal
[11:25] <zelrikriando> me first :)
[11:25] <german> alguien habla casttellano
[11:25] <AlessandroD> yes... but my box dual with win,. I' m in win since net doesn't work in ubuntu
[11:25] <bruenig> ante, oh did you say folders?
[11:25] <eavawter> any one know anything about ndiswrapper .. can you please pm me?
[11:25] <syntaxshadow> i keep seeing ppls ip addys
[11:26] <syntaxshadow> that is kinda uncomfortable
[11:26] <fisheye> in the x terminal
[11:26] <Knight_Lord> fisheye setxkbmap -layout pt
[11:26] <fisheye> sure
[11:26] <syntaxshadow> saw a guy that was able to hide it.
[11:26] <cables> How does one add an action to the Keyboard Shortcut list?
[11:26] <syntaxshadow> wonder how he did that
[11:26] <jrib> !cloak | syntaxshadow
[11:26] <ubotu> syntaxshadow: Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[11:26] <Slart> ok, I read the stuff about the kernel.. my question still stands.. is compiling my own kernel worth it? or are the kernels ubuntu gives me good enough that I won't notice the difference?
[11:26] <paitken> I just did 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and then I did 'apt-get upgrade'..I login to my system after another reboot and I have no menus.  Any suggestions?
[11:26] <hendaus> can anyone tell me how to convert a movie .dat to make it burn as vcd?
[11:26] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD Do your ubuntu computer is connected to a windows computer that is connected to the net?
[11:26] <syntaxshadow> !cloak | syntaxshadow
[11:26] <fisheye> done, got no message
[11:26] <bruenig> cables, you don't in gnome, you can get packages xbindkeys and xbindkeys-config to bind a command to a keyboard shortcut if you want
[11:26] <syntaxshadow> hmmm
[11:26] <jrib> syntaxshadow: read what ubotu said (especially the link)
[11:27] <zelrikriando> !help
[11:27] <cables> bruenig, thank you, I'll look into that. Gnome should really have this...
[11:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:27] <AlessandroD> Knight, exacly that
[11:27] <Knight_Lord> !es |german
[11:27] <ubotu> german: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:27] <fisheye> hey, it worked, thanks Knight_Lord
[11:27] <Knight_Lord> fisheye I don't use Gnome so I can't really help you with the control panel issue
[11:27] <fisheye> i'll reboot and see if i still get the same error. (obrigado)
[11:27] <Knight_Lord> fisheye this setting will not remain after reboot
[11:27] <fisheye> youre a KDE man?
[11:28] <Knight_Lord> fisheye de nada :-)
[11:28] <fisheye> oh crap
[11:28] <Knight_Lord> fisheye I use wmaker actually
[11:28] <fisheye> well, then i'll se if i can reinstall the libraries
[11:28] <fisheye> wmaker, never heard of it
[11:28] <Knight_Lord> fisheye can you paste the error you get somewhere or send it to me?
[11:28] <fisheye> can i pm it?
[11:29] <Knight_Lord> fisheye you can also put the setxkbmap command in some script file but that's not so kosher
[11:29] <Knight_Lord> yes
[11:29] <Dumahen> !wine
[11:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:29] <fisheye> naaa, this error is just a symptom, i got to take care of it
[11:29] <freesun> anyone wills to pm me hint how to get my GDI printer to work again, it stopped working few days ago after ubuntu update... now driver won't install again
[11:29] <syntaxshadow> hey evo you still there?
[11:29] <Knight_Lord> fisheye that's probably true
[11:30] <syntaxshadow> i am not sure about that link you sent me. what were you trying to tell me with it evo_?
[11:30] <fisheye> i found the pacages in synaptic
[11:30] <fisheye> going to try and reinstall them
[11:30] <syntaxshadow> so what is cloak
[11:30] <AlessandroD> Knight, exacly that
[11:30] <cld2> LjL: with apt-file I can find out what pkg Intrinsic.h is in? is that correct?
[11:30] <Knight_Lord> fisheye that doesn't help must often
[11:30] <syntaxshadow> !cloak | syntaxshadow
[11:30] <syntaxshadow> hmm
[11:30] <fisheye> mmm
[11:31] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD i'm not entirely sure if windows comes with a DHCP server
[11:31] <fisheye> can i pm the error to you knight?
[11:31] <syntaxshadow> ah interesting
[11:31] <Knight_Lord> fisheye yes
[11:31] <syntaxshadow> it activates a bot
[11:31] <exs> why is sled (suse linux) from linux tracker.org always have over 4,000 leechers??
[11:31] <syntaxshadow> i miss evo
[11:31] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD you would have to setup a static address for your ubuntu system in that case
[11:31] <syntaxshadow> she/he was my only hope
[11:31] <syntaxshadow> and now she/he is gone
[11:31] <syntaxshadow> T_T
[11:32] <AlessandroD> I don't quite know... I dual with windows and in windws it says "address obtained by DHCP"
[11:32] <paitken> I just did 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and then I did 'apt-get upgrade'..I login to my system after another reboot and I have no menus.  Any suggestions?
[11:32] <zelrikriando> T_T
[11:32] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD yes but windows gets it's DHCP address from your ISP or your router
[11:33] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD your windows box has 2 network cards correct?
[11:33] <paitken> http://bigp.ath.cx:8080/Screenshot.png
[11:33] <syntaxshadow> hmmm
[11:33] <warlock> I'm back evo_
[11:33] <syntaxshadow> i wonder if evo_ was a bot
[11:33] <AlessandroD> no, no, it gets from the other machine, this I'm sure of: my IP is 192.168.0.115
[11:34] <warlock> Any ideas of how to sort out my problem?
[11:34] <syntaxshadow> hi warlock
[11:34] <_Roman> Can anyone tell me how I can generate an encrypted password (such as the one stored in /etc/shadow) and output it to stdout?
[11:34] <warlock> hi?
[11:34] <syntaxshadow> i have been trying to contact evo_ to no avail
[11:34] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD do you know what DHCP is?
[11:34] <AlessandroD> yes
[11:34] <syntaxshadow> she/he sent me a link and i am not sure what she was tryign to tell me
[11:34] <syntaxshadow> trying*
[11:34] <warlock> aha
[11:34] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD ok, so your windows machine has 2 networks cards , 1 with DHCP and another one with fixed IP, correct?
[11:34] <syntaxshadow> maybe you can help
[11:35] <syntaxshadow> let me paste the link
[11:35] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD and your ubuntu is connected to the fixed IP cards of the windows machine correct?
[11:35] <Pooky> does anyone know how to get m4a type files playing under gstreamer? I keep getting an error even though I've installed what I believe are all the necessary plugins
[11:35] <syntaxshadow> http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Dell
[11:35] <fetcher> hmm, the Ubuntu 6.10 install CD is booting into a graphics mode that my older LCD monitor can't display.  Is there a way to force plain VGA, or text mode?
[11:35] <syntaxshadow> that is what she sent me when i asked for a dell all in one 922 printer driver
[11:36] <syntaxshadow> i am guessing she is just telling me that i am up the creek without a paddle
[11:36] <Knight_Lord> fetcher I think you can hit F3 during boot to get a list of optional boot modes
[11:36] <AlessandroD> no, it goes like "Internet <--PPPOE--> Other Cmp (Win) <--Ethernet IPv4--> MyBox(Win/Ubuntu)"
[11:36] <fetcher> it shows the initial dark "ubuntu" graphic w/ progress bar, then the display goes "Out of Range" when it tries to start Xorg
[11:36] <syntaxshadow> i know i keep using she
[11:36] <syntaxshadow> i think evo is a she
[11:36] <syntaxshadow> i dunno
[11:36] <syntaxshadow>    /shrug
[11:36] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD ok then your Other Cmp has a DHCP server and 2 NICs
[11:36] <fetcher> Knight_Lord: thanks
[11:37] <evo_> a he!
[11:37] <syntaxshadow> yea she is back
[11:37] <syntaxshadow> or he
[11:37] <syntaxshadow> i am stillnot sure
[11:37] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD And MyBox in windows works with DHCP, that's what you say correcT?
[11:37] <evo_> your printer relies on your host OS to do it's dirty work
[11:37] <zelrikriando> can somebody help me?
[11:37] <syntaxshadow> damn phone brb
[11:37] <evo_> sorta like a winmodem
[11:37] <fisheye> anyone use Processing?
[11:37] <AlessandroD> yes
[11:37] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD if that is so you should check your /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:37] <Dumahen> can i upgrade ubuntu 6.06(LTS) to Kubuntu?
[11:37] <warlock> I can't seem to find my pure-ftpd.conf file, could anyone help me out to locate it?
[11:37] <IndyGunFreak> !someone | zelrikriando
[11:37] <ubotu> zelrikriando: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:37] <evo_> /etc/pure-ftpd/conf
[11:38] <warlock> well, wheres the "general" config file in there?
[11:38] <zelrikriando> too many questions
[11:38] <warlock> AltLog MinUID NoAnonymous PAMAuthentication PureDB UnixAuthentication <- only thing I find
[11:38] <zelrikriando> and no answer
[11:38] <evo_> those are the config files, go through them
[11:38] <IndyGunFreak> zelrikriando: well, start with the first one and move on,
[11:38] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD and make sure if contains something like: auto eth0           iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:38] <zelrikriando> FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[11:38] <AlessandroD> it does, I've setted it myself
[11:38] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD and then you can do /etc/init.d/network restart
[11:38] <zelrikriando> Indy I am here since 8hours
[11:38] <zelrikriando> or more
[11:38] <warlock> weird config files, there's like nothing to edit :P
[11:39] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD this should restart the network and get an IP by DHCP
[11:39] <warlock> however, evo_ got a solution for my problem?
[11:39] <Dumahen> !update
[11:39] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:39] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD you can check if it succeeded by doing ifconfig
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> well, i've only been actually here 30min.
[11:39] <zelrikriando> good for you
[11:39] <AlessandroD> Knight: I've done this already, but it doesn't work
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> goo dluck
[11:39] <zelrikriando> I want to make my sound card work
[11:39] <AlessandroD> can I PM my ifconfig output?
[11:39] <VoV>   ,     !
[11:39] <VoV>  ,..      !
[11:39] <VoV>  -  !
[11:39] <VoV>  ,     60 (  10   )
[11:39] <VoV>   .    ,     .
[11:39] <VoV> http://k6.pyramc.com?p=484
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> get a walkman
[11:40] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD sure you can
[11:40] <bruenig> VoV, what was that
[11:40] <zelrikriando> I tried to intall all the features for alsa with the install gui
[11:40] <bruenig> oh bot
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> wierdos
[11:40] <zelrikriando> after that I tried to install packages manually
[11:40] <warlock> I have a ftp account called "pub" (using pure-ftpd) - I was wondering how to make the dir /var/www/pub so people cannot delete files/edit files/or create dirs - just be able to upload files and download(read) them anyone?
[11:40] <grayman> i wonder what was that encoding that it used that ubuntu was unable to display
[11:41] <zelrikriando> I am still trying to figure out what to do
[11:41] <bruenig> grayman, well go to that link, you shall see
[11:41] <zelrikriando> I dont understand the forums
[11:41] <lexual> is it just me, or is gnucash currently not installable in feisty?
[11:41] <bruenig> !feisty | lexual
[11:41] <ubotu> lexual: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:41] <grayman> bruening, not that i fear to catch a virus :P
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: they never learn..lol
[11:41] <AlessandroD> Knight: PM'd it
[11:41] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD strangely enough I didn't get anything
[11:42] <thinh> anyone good with docking stattion and external monitor?
[11:42] <bruenig> grayman, virus in linux, good one
[11:42] <AlessandroD> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[11:42] <fisheye> cant i change the keyborad when configuring xorg?
[11:42] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,
[11:42] <AlessandroD> just seein
[11:42] <fisheye> oooo
[11:42] <bruenig> !register | AlessandroD
[11:42] <zelrikriando> on the alsa website there helps to install alsa-driver alsa-lib and alsa-utils...how are they related with the GUI install features of alsa ?
[11:42] <ubotu> AlessandroD: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:42] <bruenig> !pm | AlessandroD
[11:42] <ubotu> AlessandroD: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[11:42] <fisheye> thats why you didint get my pm Knight!!
[11:42] <zelrikriando> why do I  get weird messages each time I try a command line from a forum
[11:42] <Knight_Lord> fisheye no i didn't get anything
[11:43] <fisheye> and i just thought you were a bad guy :)
[11:43] <thinh> i have a issue with my external monitor connected to a docking station] 
[11:43] <Knight_Lord> fisheye :-)
[11:43] <zelrikriando> why is my sound card not working
[11:43] <bruenig> thinh, really] 
[11:43] <thinh> the external is connected via dvi contact on the docking station
[11:43] <zelrikriando> why is nobody answering me
[11:43] <Knight_Lord> zelrikriando unfortunately a common symptom
[11:43] <matkix0s> !codecs
[11:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:43] <bruenig> !patience | zelrikriando
[11:43] <ubotu> zelrikriando: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:43] <jrib> zelrikriando: because you are asking vague questions with no information
[11:43] <Knight_Lord> zelrikriando do you know what card you have?
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:43] <zelrikriando> yes I know
[11:44] <Knight_Lord> zelrikriando care to inform us?
[11:44] <zelrikriando> and yes I am patient since this morning
[11:44] <thinh> the screen comes on during boot the moment i go into xwindows my external goes blank and my internal screeen goes on
[11:44] <bruenig> lol, he just answered yes
[11:44] <zelrikriando> it is written somewhere on this chat
[11:44] <fisheye> i'm registerd now, so you should see it
[11:44] <zelrikriando> hold on
[11:44] <zelrikriando> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[11:44] <grayman> lol that's a funnt link
[11:44] <thinh> so what do i need to route the graphics back to the external monitor in xwindow
[11:44] <grayman> *funny
[11:45] <thinh> i have a nvidia quatro go fx1400
[11:45] <francois_> hi, how do i see package version history ?
[11:45] <thinh> it worked fine right after the installation but after i uppgraded to new nvidia drivers it hasnt been working
[11:45] <hon> where should I talk about feisty?
[11:46] <francois_> hon: ubuntu+1
[11:46] <zelrikriando> I installed ubuntu a few days ago, I dont have sound even tho the lspci is seeing a controller
[11:46] <jrib> zelrikriando: you should try the mailing list or forums if no one can help you here
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: theya re to confusing..lol
[11:46] <fisheye> still not geting in knight_lord?
[11:47] <x-Dieu> francois_  see the file /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:47] <terlmann> help ! my sound is broke !
[11:47] <Eifersucht> haha
[11:47] <terlmann> my alsa shows cards
[11:47] <Eifersucht> mine too
[11:47] <thinh> anyone know what my problem is?
[11:47] <Eifersucht> as well as wireless
[11:47] <terlmann> and my system shows it
[11:47] <jrib> !enter
[11:47] <zelrikriando> when I do sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-generic , it takes only 5seconds to go through
[11:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:47] <terlmann> breezy badger
[11:48] <zelrikriando> I was asked to do it to try to fix this error :
[11:48] <Alonea> anyone have any experience with installing fglrx drivers for ATI cards on AMD64 machines? Driver wont install http://pastebin.ca/394315
[11:48] <Alonea> also this is what flgrxinfo outputs http://pastebin.ca/395303
[11:48] <zelrikriando> WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[11:48] <AlessandroD> Knight, going to send you output
[11:48] <zelrikriando> followed by this error :
[11:48] <warlock> I have a ftp account called "pub" (using pure-ftpd) - I was wondering how to make the dir /var/www/pub so people cannot delete files/edit files/or create dirs - just be able to upload files and download(read) them, anyone?
[11:48] <zelrikriando> FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[11:48] <terlmann> I need to know how to configure sound : i have 3 cards(2 dummies ) and one real one ,but my sound output is not feeding to the card I use.
[11:49] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | zelrikriando
[11:49] <ubotu> zelrikriando: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <cld2> how can I add an option to one of my /etc/alterntives?
[11:49] <Eifersucht> terlmann did you try alsaconf ?
[11:49] <syntaxshadow> back sorry
[11:49] <syntaxshadow> evo you there?
[11:49] <terlmann> no such bird
[11:49] <Eifersucht> =/
[11:49] <terlmann> no alsaconf
[11:49] <syntaxshadow> lame she logged
[11:49] <terlmann> the sound card works though
[11:49] <syntaxshadow> that is about right
[11:49] <Eifersucht> ermmm..... do you know if you have the alsa configurator installed ?
[11:50] <terlmann> just it is not pipeing it right
[11:50] <Eifersucht> oh
[11:50] <Eifersucht> so you hear sound ?
[11:50] <syntaxshadow> well looks like cups is my only alt
[11:50] <terlmann> none
[11:50] <syntaxshadow> wish me luck guys
[11:50] <terlmann> did before the kernel install
[11:50] <syntaxshadow> maybe some warluck hehe
[11:50] <AlessandroD> Knight, : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10410/
[11:50] <Eifersucht> you just updated the kernel ?
[11:50] <terlmann> custom compile , it works.
[11:50] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD did you get my pm?
[11:51] <terlmann> the logs show all clear
[11:51] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD yea I saw yours
[11:51] <Eifersucht> hermmm
[11:51] <terlmann> #0 dummy | #1 midi fake #3 via ac97
[11:51] <Eifersucht> I dont know what to tell you man
[11:51] <terlmann> it wont pipe the sound to 3
[11:52] <terlmann> how do I change the output twixt cards ?
[11:52] <Eifersucht> i have always used alsaconf in the past and everything worked
[11:52] <Eifersucht> I cant get any sound out of the one I have now though
[11:52] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[11:52] <Cpudan80> Question
[11:52] <Eifersucht> just bought a new lappy and no wireless or sound
[11:52] <Eifersucht> shoot Cpudan80
[11:52] <Cpudan80> Sometimes -- KDE based aps (amarok) get messed up with the tray icon
[11:53] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: is your wifi supported in Linux?
[11:53] <delmar> hey everyone. I'm having a wierd problem - when installing ubuntu 6.10 it simply will not detect the network card. I have tried netgear, 3com & intel cards, and different slots, (abit vp6 board) and every time the cards detect during Bios Post, they work in windows on the same box, but the ununtu install keeps saying no network controler found... alt-f2 to the other console and 'lspci' shows nothing....empty.. really wierd.
[11:53] <Cpudan80> in the notification area that is
[11:53] <Eifersucht> i dunno
[11:53] <Cpudan80> Like - the icon will show up - but on the desktop or something
[11:53] <Eifersucht> i think the card might be too new
[11:53] <Cpudan80> Any ideas?
[11:53] <Pollywog> if not you might have to use ndiswrapper
[11:53] <Pollywog> I have not had to use it
[11:53] <Eifersucht> well from what i have seen Pollywog i think i will have to
[11:53] <tier`> heh i been screwin with ndiswrapper and fwcutter for 3 days now... and im so close to getting my wireless nic working it hurts haha
[11:54] <Eifersucht> i have never used it though nor do i know where to start
[11:54] <mrpoundsign> so, does anyone know about evolution-exchange calendar not being in sync with the new timezone changes?  All my meetings are off by an hour.
[11:54] <Eifersucht> I just got a new gateway MT3750 and neither sound nor wireless are working
[11:55] <Pollywog> as for sound, you might try Googling for a solution and it might involve compiling drivers if alsaconf does not work
[11:55] <Pollywog> module-assistant makes it easier
[11:55] <Eifersucht> yeah i wouldnt know how to compile a driver at all
[11:55] <Pollywog> module-assistant is the ticket then
[11:55] <Eifersucht> well i think I was trying to get that going yesterday Polly but it wouldnt work right
[11:55] <Pollywog> what sound card?
[11:56] <Pelo> Eifersucht,  there's probably a howto somewhere to help you
[11:56] <Eifersucht> yeah
[11:56] <Eifersucht> well
[11:56] <newbie_> hi everybody
[11:56] <Eifersucht> i dunno what soundcard
[11:56] <Pollywog> onboard sound?
[11:56] <Eifersucht> i am reinstalling ubuntu right now
[11:56] <Pollywog> k
[11:56] <Eifersucht> yes onboard
[11:56] <riddlebox> does anyone use sonicwall vpn?
[11:56] <Pollywog> chipset?
[11:56] <Eifersucht> ermmmm
[11:56] <Eifersucht> not sure
[11:56] <Eifersucht> lol
[11:56] <Eifersucht> well intel
[11:56] <Eifersucht> ?
[11:57] <Pelo> Eifersucht,  if you now your motherboard maker and model, you can look it up easily
[11:57] <Eifersucht> i think it comes up with like ATI something
[11:57] <Knight_Lord> Is there any gnome equivalent to .xinitrc?
[11:57] <Pollywog> .xsession ?
[11:57] <Eifersucht> hold on Polly
[11:57] <Eifersucht> i need to take the CD out and reboot
[11:57] <Pollywog> I think Gome uses .xsession
[11:57] <Pollywog> k
[11:58] <Roadrunner1985> !ntfs-3g
[11:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:58] <jmhodges> hey, hows the ATI support in Feisty Fawn? Anything crazy atm?
[11:58] <newbie_> ..../sysinfo
[11:58] <Knight_Lord> Pollywog is .xsession invoked even from gdm?
[11:58] <Alonea> anyone have any experience with installing fglrx drivers for ATI cards on AMD64 machines? Driver wont install http://pastebin.ca/394315
[11:58] <Alonea> also this is what flgrxinfo outputs http://pastebin.ca/395303
[11:58] <Pollywog> from gdm, I don't think so
[11:59] <tracy> would running beryl affect battery life on a laptop? (recently my battery has sucked. about the time i put on beryl. wondering if its a coincidence?)
[11:59] <Eifersucht> ok Polly I am starting up
[11:59] <Pollywog> k
[11:59] <Knight_Lord> Pollywog anything that can be used from  gdm?
[11:59] <syntaxshadow> this is lame
[11:59] <syntaxshadow> i cant get a driver for my printer
[11:59] <syntaxshadow> i mean i can't be the only one with this problem
[11:59] <Pollywog> Knight_Lord: there is but I don't recall specifics
[11:59] <syntaxshadow> how does anyone else do it
[12:00] <tracy> syntaxshadow, you just reminded me to look my printer up. what kind do you have?
[12:00] <Pelo> syntaxshadow,   local printer ? in cups ?  what printer ?
[12:00] <francois_> syntaxshadow: driver ?
[12:00] <syntaxshadow> dell all in one 922
[12:00] <Pollywog> Knight_Lord: is this something for a single user or systemwide?
[12:00] <syntaxshadow> yeah i can't find a driver that works
[12:00] <syntaxshadow> single user
[12:00] <Pollywog> Knight_Lord: there are scripts
[12:00] <syntaxshadow> i tried cups
[12:00] <syntaxshadow> didn't work
[12:00] <mahuyar> How can I disable the adept notifier in the task bar?
[12:00] <jrib> !enter | syntaxshadow
[12:00] <ubotu> syntaxshadow: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:00] <francois_> syntaxshadow: did you copy the file from the supplier into the right directory ?
[12:00] <Pelo> syntaxshadow,  have you looked it up on the dell site ?