[12:13] <r00t__> are the source-o-matic sources the same for gnome as kde?
[12:18] <bonbonthejon> r00t__: yes
[12:27] <jan__> hallo
[12:27] <jan__> bin mir nicht sicher ob ich eben schon mal hier war
[12:29] <BluesKaj> !de | jan__
[12:29] <ubotu> jan__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:30] <Alonea> anyone have any experience with installing fglrx drivers for ATI cards on AMD64 machines? Driver wont install http://pastebin.ca/394315
[12:30] <Alonea> also this is what flgrxinfo outputs http://pastebin.ca/395303
[12:31] <Archdragonmage> how do I install a deb program in Kubuntu
[12:31] <hatta> dpkg -i package.deb
[12:31] <Archdragonmage> I have cedega to install but do not know how to
[12:32] <firephoto> Archdragonmage: you can right click it in konqueror.
[12:32] <Archdragonmage> ok will try
[12:32] <firephoto> Archdragonmage: under the Kubuntu package menu
[12:33] <Archdragonmage> where is that
[12:33] <kdehl> I have trouble with the sound, I don't even know where to start. I have a quite new budget laptop, Toshiba Satelite L30-101, and the program 'alsamixer' only shows two channels, or whatever you cal them: Master and PCM. And nothing sounds from the speakers. It worked in Windows, so no hardware failure. Any idea where to begin?
[12:33] <r00t__> x-server randomly restarts and kicks me back to my login screen
[12:34] <firephoto> Archdragonmage: when you right click on the deb file, there's a sub menu called that. Kubuntu Package Menu.
[12:34] <r00t__> kdehl:
[12:34] <r00t__> kdehl: cntrl f2=>kmix
[12:34] <kdehl> r00t__:
[12:34] <Archdragonmage> ah ok thanks
[12:34] <kdehl> r00t__: Yeah. Same thing there.
[12:35] <r00t__> kdehl: then click on kmix refs
[12:35] <r00t__> prefs
[12:35] <firephoto> kdehl: what sound chip is in that?
[12:35] <r00t__> then just click all the little boxes
[12:36] <n8k99> kdehl: System Settings > Sound: Set Auto- Suspend to 1 sec. Apply. Test Sound.
[12:36] <kdehl> firephoto: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
[12:36] <kdehl>  Says lspci.
[12:36] <r00t__> kdehl: after go back to the main window click on sthere wicthes and eternal amp,if that dosent work just keep foling with anything in
[12:36] <r00t__> thats what i had to do
[12:37] <firephoto> kdehl: oh. ATI sound. no idea there. could be it needs some extra options when the module loads. or even a newer module/kernel for support.
[12:37] <kdehl> n8k99: No difference.
[12:37] <kdehl> firephoto: Okay, ouch.
[12:38] <n8k99> hmmm.......
[12:38] <n8k99> alsamixer
[12:38] <kdehl> What about it?
[12:39] <firephoto> kdehl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1965037 that might be similar
[12:39] <n8k99> start it up and adjust levels
[12:39] <r00t__> kdehl: did you try what i said?
[12:40] <r00t__> kdehl: for some reason ubun/kubntu mutes my laptop speakers and turns off the ecternal amp
[12:42] <kdehl> I don
[12:42] <kdehl> 't think they are muted, no. Doesn't seem like it.
[12:42] <kdehl> I had the same problem on my old laptop.
[12:43] <Archdragonmage> I get an error when tring to install packages  The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[12:43] <firephoto> Archdragonmage: do you have adept open?
[12:43] <Archdragonmage> mo
[12:44] <Archdragonmage> no
[12:44] <firephoto> Archdragonmage: you could run those commands from a konsole with sudo
[12:45] <Archdragonmage> tried with terminal but I do not know the right commands
[12:46] <Archdragonmage> how do I reset it
[12:47] <Archdragonmage> how do I rest the apt data base
[12:47] <Archdragonmage> reset
[12:50] <Archdragonmage> How do I reset the APT database
[12:50] <firephoto> Archdragonmage: try running "sudo apt-get update"
[12:50] <Archdragonmage> from terminal?
[12:52] <aflac> how do i get into the black list to remove the driver for my internal wifi card cuz the driver that came with kernel is broken
[12:53] <aflac> can anyone help me
[12:54] <troxor_> aflac: find /etc | grep blacklist   is one way
[12:54] <aflac> ok but i need to edit it to remove the built in bcm45xx driver that is part of the kernel
[12:55] <aflac> i have a windows based driver which works but the built in kernel one is preventing my wifi from working correctly
[12:55] <BluesKaj> is this the correct command to install  a *.deb pkg   -  sudo dpkg -i mt-daapd_0.2.4-1_i386.deb ?
[12:55] <aflac> yes
[12:55] <Gh0st75> anyone know why azureus would start to open then crash with no error or anything?
[12:55] <aflac> i believe
[12:56] <aflac> lol i had that happened to me u using kubuntu or ubuntu
[12:56] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: yes
[12:56] <Gh0st75> kubuntu
[12:56] <aflac> interesting
[12:56] <Gh0st75> edgy
[12:56] <BluesKaj> aflac, i don't see a folder
[12:56] <aflac> ghost try rm -rf .azureus
[12:56] <aflac> then open it and reconfig it
[12:56] <Gh0st75> good idea
[12:56] <aflac> check ur home folder blues
[12:57] <troxor_> Gh0st75: instead of removing it, you can also just move it out of the way, say mv .azureus azureus-maybe-broken
[12:58] <aflac> how do i edit the black list so that i can take out the bcm 45xx driver cuz it is somehow broken
[12:58] <Gh0st75> my config file wasn't too detailed, only taking a second to reset it.....good point tho, will remember that for when i have a corrupted config that's more detailed
[12:58] <troxor_> aflac: sudo vim /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:59] <Archdragonmage> how do I edit the etc/apt/sources.list file as it has a bad line in it but will not let me save the fixed file
[12:59] <troxor_> Archdragonmage: did you edit it with sudo?
[12:59] <aflac> the bcm45xx isnt in there tro
[12:59] <PCGenie> Ubuntu-Desktop
[12:59] <aflac> i used that last command
[12:59] <PCGenie> sorry
[12:59] <Archdragonmage> I opened it but it said there was an error in it
[01:00] <troxor_> aflac: isn't it bcm43xx ?
[01:00] <Archdragonmage>  first line bad
[01:00] <troxor_> aflac: just add a line that says "blacklist bcm43xx" (but no quotes)
[01:00] <aflac> ok tro will do
[01:00] <troxor_> aflac: then, update-modules
[01:00] <aflac> ok hold on
[01:01] <aflac> what do i put before update-modules
[01:02] <aflac> tro
[01:02] <aflac> i just checked iwconfig and its still not workin
[01:03] <troxor_> aflac: did you remove the module with modprobe -vr ?
[01:03] <troxor_> aflac: as in, "unload the driver"
[01:03] <aflac> just did
[01:03] <aflac> now how do i update it
[01:04] <aflac> it says accesspt is invalid
[01:04] <chrismhampson> i'm having trouble getting monitor powersave to work. What lines (and where) need to be added to xorg.conf? I recently installed kpowersave...
[01:04] <Archdragonmage> troxor . I used sudo apt-get update and got line 1 in source list not known /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:05] <troxor_> Archdragonmage: what's line 1 in that file say?
[01:05] <Archdragonmage> /home/mark/
[01:06] <Orey> hi is anyone there by any chance ....
[01:06] <troxor_> Archdragonmage: then remove that line, it doesn't quite look like a valid source line ;)
[01:06] <Orey> i kinda need some help plz
[01:06] <aflac> ? what u mean orey
[01:06] <aflac> just ask ur ? orey
[01:06] <Archdragonmage> how do I edit it out?
[01:07] <Archdragonmage> tried but would not save
[01:07] <aflac> sudo to allow rw access
[01:07] <troxor_> aflac: to remove the module from the running kernel, modprobe -vr <module name> ... to make sure it doesn't get loaded again, add the blacklist <module name> in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:07] <aflac> ok oty tro
[01:08] <Orey> kk ive just downloaded kubuntu 6.10 burnt it on disk and tried to install but... it says the linux swap is not functioning and then boots into command prompt
[01:08] <Archdragonmage> how do I use sudo for this.....sorry but am new to this
[01:08] <Orey> on the live cd
[01:08] <KaiHanari> when using ps aux | grep blah, how do i supress the return of the line showing the grep i just did?
[01:08] <troxor_> chrismhampson: you probably want a line such as   "Option "DPMS" in your xorg.conf's Monitor section
[01:09] <chrismhampson> troxor_: I've got that
[01:09] <troxor_> chrismhampson: also, xset dpms  is a tool that controls that.. there's probably a setting in "System Settings" under screen saver too
[01:09] <troxor_> KaiHanari: grep -v grep
[01:10] <chrismhampson> troxor_: does xset dpms make a permanent chance?
[01:10] <chrismhampson> change?
[01:10] <KaiHanari> thanks tro
[01:10] <KaiHanari> thanks troxor_
[01:11] <troxor_> KaiHanari: np
[01:12] <troxor_> chrismhampson: not sure, I usually let {kx}screensaver mess with it for me
[01:12] <Orey> can anyone help at all im in abit of a kupuffle
[01:12] <troxor_> Orey: did you verify the md5sum of the iso image?
[01:12] <BluesKaj> how do I know what folder name for a pkg is ...it seems the *.deb is installed but I don'rt see a folder with anything resembling the original filename ?
[01:12] <troxor_> Orey: just to rule out the possibility of a corrupt transfer
[01:12] <chrismhampson> troxor_: kxscreensaver?
[01:13] <Archdragonmage> troxor...how do I edit source.list in sudo
[01:13] <Orey> no but ill do that brb
[01:13] <troxor_> chrismhampson: kscreensaver / xscreensaver/ gnome-screensaver etc
[01:14] <chrismhampson> troxor_: in kubuntu how can i access dpms settings from the screensaver?
[01:14] <KaiHanari> Orey, take a look at the extra options at boot of the CD. try disabling swap there. possibly by adding "noswap" to the boot options
[01:15] <troxor_> chrismhampson: check out the "Monitor and Display" section in "system settings"
[01:15] <troxor_> Archdragonmage: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:17] <Archdragonmage> troxor_ great thanks
[01:17] <troxor_> Archdragonmage: np
[01:18] <Orey> md5sum ok
[01:22] <Orey_> rm how add noswap to the boot option?
[01:22] <Orey_> um*
[01:23] <anonymous_coward> hey guys! my video card is an old radeon 8500 can anyone tell me which driver I should use?
[01:25] <Chetwin> Okay, I'm aggrivated.  How do I get the ms core fonts
[01:25] <Chetwin> I enabled all my sources in apt
[01:25] <Chetwin> I noticed in a tutorial (which I can no longer find) there was a wget command to get the package
[01:27] <Chetwin> !fonts
[01:27] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:28] <Chetwin> !msttcorefonts
[01:28] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[01:28] <troxor> Chetwin: it should be as easy as apt-get install msttcorefonts
[01:29] <Chetwin> It's not.  I get the "referred to by another package, but is no longer available"
[01:29] <troxor> Chetwin: did you run an apt-get update?
[01:29] <aullom> I'm having some trouble with w32codecs. I'm getting sound but no picture. Can anyone help me out?
[01:29] <Chetwin> Yes, but I don't seem to have multiverse
[01:30] <Silveira_Neto> aullom: How do you got the w32codecs?
[01:30] <Chetwin> Wait, yes I do have multiverse
[01:30] <Chetwin> What the crap man
[01:30] <aullom> automatix
[01:30] <Chetwin> No, automatix is too unreliable
[01:30] <Chetwin> Better than easyubuntu, but still shotty
[01:31] <Archdragonmage> troxor_   ah I installed cedega like you said ...but...where is it...??
[01:31] <troxor> Archdragonmage: ?
[01:31] <troxor> aullom: what media player are you using the w32codecs with?
[01:32] <aullom> I have also tried apt-get using http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas all
[01:32] <Archdragonmage> I right clicked it and did the install but I do not see it on desktop or in menu
[01:32] <aullom> kaffeine, vlc, mplayer, etc. Same result on all
[01:33] <troxor> aullom: did you try running mplayer with the switch -vo xv ?
[01:33] <aullom> no, what does that do?
[01:34] <Silveira_Neto> aullom: Are u using a 64 bits machine?
[01:34] <troxor> Chetwin: make sure you have a line deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse universe  in your sources.list , then do apt-get update.. then try apt-get install msttcorefonts
[01:34] <aullom> no, 32
[01:34] <Silveira_Neto> ok
[01:34] <Archdragonmage> troxor_ I used konqueror and right clicked cogeco deb file said install and it did but how do I find it now
[01:35] <troxor> Archdragonmage: try just "cedega" from the terminal
[01:35] <Chetwin> I fixed the issue by referring to the ubuntu wiki
[01:35] <Chetwin> Thank you though
[01:35] <troxor> Chetwin: np
[01:35] <Chetwin> Alright all, I'm off to reinstall WoW
[01:36] <troxor> aullom: uses the xv video out driver
[01:39] <aullom> so i just enter "mplayer -xv"? That gives me "Error parsing option on the command line: -xv"
[01:39] <troxor> aullom: mplayer -vo xv
[01:39] <troxor> then filename
[01:39] <T3hWiz0rd> does anyone in here have ktorrent and use it often?
[01:40] <troxor> T3hWiz0rd: no, you stink
[01:40] <T3hWiz0rd> troxor: i'll cut your your hair off and hide it under your gf's pillow
[01:40] <troxor> T3hWiz0rd: haha
[01:40] <T3hWiz0rd> troxor: i am having trouble opening torrents for seeding... teh nubbed
[01:40] <T3hWiz0rd> it constantly wants to redownload them
[01:43] <troxor> T3hWiz0rd: check the folders options in prefs
[01:43] <aullom> troxor: same result
[01:43] <T3hWiz0rd> troxor: the what?
[01:44] <troxor> aullom: try running with -v as well, and check for any video-type error or warning messages
[01:44] <troxor> T3hWiz0rd: in the folders section in preferences, there's a place for temp files and then automatically save to
[01:45] <johny> !search compile
[01:45] <ubotu> Found: kernel, java-#kubuntu, java, qt, kernelcompile, checkinstall, build-dep, compile, tarball, compilekernel
[01:45] <T3hWiz0rd> troxor: its all disabled there
[01:45] <johny> !compile| johny
[01:46] <T3hWiz0rd> troxor: i don't see how this'll help it open torrents for seeding tho
[01:47] <aullom> troxor: hmmm... Can't find the codecs.conf file. Can't find fonts.conf either.
[01:48] <troxor> T3hWiz0rd: what about starting a download as a client, letting it create some empty files, then stopping the torrent, replacing the empty files with your complete ones, then restarting the torrent
[01:48] <reldruh> who's in charge of which packages are in the repositories? Digikam, specifically?
[01:48] <T3hWiz0rd> troxor: would that work?
[01:48] <eigentard> arg
[01:48] <troxor> T3hWiz0rd: it worked in azureus a long time ago ;)
[01:48] <eigentard> why can I not extract this file to my /usr/lib/XMMS/Effect folder?
[01:49] <aullom> troxor: later on it says it found the audio and video streams, but the next line says "MPEG Stream reached EOF"
[01:49] <T3hWiz0rd> troxor: hmm
[01:50] <T3hWiz0rd> all im worried about is does ktorrent que files if you don't tell it to?
[01:50] <T3hWiz0rd> like i want my seeds to stay up 24/7
[01:50] <troxor> aullom: what file are you trying to play? is it available somewhere online?
[01:51] <aullom> troxor: no, it's an old episode of The Tick I downloaded long ago
[01:52] <troxor> aullom: what repo's packages are you using?
[01:52] <eigentard> why am I getting an error when trying to copy a file somewhere?
[01:52] <eigentard> it's not letting me copy it over
[01:52] <troxor> eigentard: permissions? probably copying as root
[01:52] <troxor> er, probably need to copy as root, but be sure that won't break anything
[01:53] <eigentard> how do I copy as root?
[01:53] <aullom> troxor: it looks like it did find libmpeg2
[01:53] <troxor> eigentard: sudo
[01:53] <eigentard> how do I sudo in the gui? :X
[01:53] <troxor> eigentard: kdesu
[01:53] <eigentard> I don't really know the copy commands enough to not use the gui... haha
[01:56] <bonbonthejon> eigentard: hit alt-f2, then run "kdesu konqueror"
[01:56] <mjunx> one day the keyboards are going to revolt for being hit so often and will demand voting rights y'know
[01:57] <aullom> troxor: I'm using the restricted, universe, and multiverse repos, plus the repos for automatix
[01:57] <bonbonthejon> ewww, dont use automatix
[01:57] <jjesse> !beryl
[01:57] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:58] <mjunx> what does automatix even provide?
[01:58] <eigentard> ah hah!
[01:58] <eigentard> worked!
[01:58] <bonbonthejon> !automatix
[01:58] <eigentard> thanks :)
[01:58] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:58] <jjesse> is beryl the best 3d managerr for kubuntu?
[01:58] <troxor> aullom: hrm, try the ones from medibuntu.. not too sure abount automatix
[01:58] <mjunx> er, what does automatix install?
[01:58] <troxor> aullom: what ubotu and bonbonthejon said ;)
[01:59] <bonbonthejon> jjesse: its supposed to be more stable than compiz
[01:59] <mjunx> hey dan_, you shouldn't be using automatix apparently! :)
[02:01] <aullom> I'll try those suggestions. Thanks for help
[02:01] <jjesse> bonbonthejon: thanks
[02:01] <jjesse> !beryl
[02:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:05] <johannes> hols
[02:05] <johannes> hola
[02:05] <johannes> alguien me puede ayudar con el sonido de ubuntu
[02:05] <johannes> perdon kubuntu
[02:06] <johannes> ya que no tengo ningun sonido
[02:08] <Pupeno4> !kubuntu-es
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <Pupeno> !es
[02:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:16] <mjunx> random note: ruby is more popular than kubuntu! this is not good :/
[02:17] <mjunx> according to an informal survey of /list
[02:18] <chrismhampson> am i right in thinking that kmail can't automatically add a contact to the address book on clicking reply?
[02:18] <jawee_> (This is asked on behalf of someone else) How can you configure what devices mount onto the desktop?
[02:20] <ghetek> this is kind of intermitent but sometimes i need to open applications twice before they show up. if i open them in a terminal window it always works right away. its just the desktop, bottom taskbar (quicklaunch type thing), and the Kmenu items that show this behavior
[02:20] <mjunx> jawee_, it's in the system settings somewhere...
[02:20] <eigentard> where can I get glibc?
[02:20] <eigentard> it's not on APT
[02:20] <mjunx> eigentard, it's just called libc in apt
[02:25] <dx11101> i have a major problem
[02:26] <dx11101> i have no kmenu or taskbar icons
[02:26] <dx11101> no clock
[02:27] <mjunx> do you have a kicker bar?
[02:27] <dx11101> kicker?
[02:28] <dx11101> i have bar with nothing on it
[02:28] <mjunx> the entire bar thing that everything goes in
[02:28] <eigentard> hrm
[02:28] <eigentard> i'm doing apt-get install libc but it's not working
[02:28] <eigentard> saying there's no installation candidate
[02:28] <mjunx> well, you can try killing kicker (Ctrl+Esc to bring up the system guard to kill processes), then run it again via Alt+F2 and type "kicker"
[02:31] <edward> was wondering if anyone could help me with on how to remove realplayer directory
[02:31] <edward> when installing it loaded in my desktop directory
[02:31] <skogen> is there any package for wpa/wp2 for wireless connection in kubuntu?
[02:31] <dx11101> i was wonder if anyone could help me fix KDE its messed up i cant fix it
[02:32] <mjunx> eigentard, it's libc6
[02:32] <edward> tried deletiing realplaer directory but says I don't have privileges
[02:32] <stdin> skogen: look at
[02:32] <mjunx> dx11101, did you try doing what I said?
[02:32] <stdin> skogen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[02:33] <mjunx> edward, hit Alt+F2, then type "kdesu konqueror", and then you can try deleting the file from there
[02:33] <dx11101> i think im missing a module
[02:36] <edward> using kdesu worked. How do I remove RealPlayer application media list?
[02:37] <Yeason> when I activate beryl in herd 5 my desktops on the KDE panel get extended to take up half the panel, does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:37] <mjunx> edward, look for the .desktop file for it, might be in ~/.kde/share/applnk/
[02:37] <mjunx> Yeason, dunno, I've had a similar problem with the system tray
[02:38] <billytwowilly> what's the best utility for creating partitions in kubuntu? system setting -> hard disks doesn't seem to be able to do it very intuitively
[02:38] <Yeason> probably something that will be fixed in final release?
[02:38] <mjunx> billytwowilly, qtparted
[02:38] <billytwowilly> is that graphical?
[02:38] <mjunx> Yeason, doubtful since beryl isn't in kubuntu at all
[02:38] <mjunx> billytwowilly, yeah
[02:38] <billytwowilly> ok, I'll try it. thanks.
[02:38] <Yeason> yea, I didn't mean kubuntu, I was just musing that the beryl devs might fix it... pls...? =P
[02:39] <dx11101> i will regreit forever ever trying to install compiz
[02:39] <dx11101> becuase when i tried to remove it kde got jacked
[02:39] <billytwowilly> lol.
[02:39] <billytwowilly> crummy.
[02:39] <dx11101> no k startmenu
[02:39] <dx11101> no clock
[02:39] <dx11101> no icons
[02:39] <billytwowilly> beryl worked ok for me, but now it just dies when I try and run it. I hear compiz is the better solution technically.
[02:40] <Yeason> ok, I have one other issue I hope someone can help with: I'm trying to compile a docker for KDE and when I run ./configure it says "C compiler cannot create executables"
[02:41] <mjunx> Yeason, go to #beryl ?
[02:41] <billytwowilly> mjunx: there is no option to use reiserfs in qtparted...
[02:41] <dx11101> so how do you go by saving kde from a major problem
[02:42] <mjunx> billytwowilly, then just create a whatever partition, then use mkfs.reiserfs on that partition afterwards
[02:42] <billytwowilly> mjunx: ok, thanks.
[02:42] <Yeason> mjunx: I thought the compiler issue would be a distro issue, not a wm issue
[02:42] <mjunx> I was talking about beryl :/
[02:43] <mjunx> but you might be running gcc on a partition mounted as noexec
[02:43] <Yeason> oh, lol, I've tried there a few times, either no one saw it, or they don't know either
[02:43] <billytwowilly> mjunx: thanks, it appears to have worked
[02:44] <mjunx> ok good
[02:44] <billytwowilly> or is working I should say.
[02:44] <billytwowilly> pico /etc/fstab
[02:44] <billytwowilly> darn
[02:44] <billytwowilly> sorry
[02:44] <mjunx> pico? you sound old-school, you should be using parted!
[02:44] <Yeason> mjunx: this fstab is setup differently than I'm used to, but it looks like there's nothing saying "noexec" on any of the drives
[02:45] <mjunx> well, we use UUID's of drives instead of their /dev/ names to keep it consistent
[02:45] <mjunx> I dunno then; you got binutils and gcc installed?
[02:47] <Yeason> yes I do
[02:47] <mjunx> and g++?
[02:47] <mjunx> hmm, check config.log to see the actual error I guess
[02:47] <Yeason> ah, that I do not have, is there a version taht would be better?
[02:48] <Yeason> I did check the log, I couldn't find anything, which was why I resorted to asking you guys
[02:48] <stdin> !b-e
[02:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:48] <mjunx> 4.1 or the same version as gcc
[02:48] <edward> anyone tell me how I can upgrade from 6.06LTS to 6.10 online
[02:48] <eigentard> how can I why can't I get this oss/3D plugin to work with XMMS?
[02:48] <Yeason> ok, thank you, I'll give taht a shot and see what happens
[02:50] <edward> how can I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 online
[02:52] <Kyral> !upgrade
[02:52] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:52] <stdin> !upgrade | edward
[02:52] <ubotu> edward: please see above
[02:52] <Kyral> hahah I win :P
[02:52] <stdin> darn :P
[02:53] <mjunx> pwned
[02:54] <TheSpunkyLobster> hi
[02:54] <pollyo> Hello
[02:55] <TheSpunkyLobster> hoping somone might be able to help me out :)
[02:55] <mjunx> !question
[02:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:55] <pollyo> Do they have a specific place to discuss feisty?
[02:55] <TheSpunkyLobster> heh
[02:55] <mjunx> hmm, that's not the right one
[02:55] <mjunx> #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <pollyo> thanks...
[02:56] <TheSpunkyLobster> i've just got a new mobo+processor and i'm trying to install kubuntu edgy but i can't even get the live cd to load, comes up with a kernel panic error
[02:56] <edward> is there anyway to upgrade to 6.10 using adept??
[02:57] <mjunx> !upgrade
[02:57] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:58] <TheSpunkyLobster> anyone got any suggestions?
[02:59] <edward> does the KubuntuUgrade documentation work or does it have bugs
[02:59] <mjunx> this might not help, but my guess is a BIOS setting is screwing it up
[03:00] <TheSpunkyLobster> heh fair enough, any idea what it might be or where i should start looking?
[03:00] <mjunx> does the kernel panic specify any root cause?
[03:01] <TheSpunkyLobster> let me check :)
[03:01] <TheSpunkyLobster> trying to install on desktop, on the laptop here :)
[03:02] <TheSpunkyLobster> it says: kernel panic - not synching: attempted to kill init!
[03:03] <mjunx> any other messages before it?
[03:03] <TheSpunkyLobster> lots of numbers :) other than that the previous line includes: acpi_hw_low_level_read
[03:04] <mjunx> I'm still bad at debugging kernel panics
[03:04] <mjunx> i.e. I just screw around with the BIOS settings until it fixes itself
[03:04] <TheSpunkyLobster> heh
[03:04] <TheSpunkyLobster> everything installed perfectly before i upgraded mobo+processor hehe
[03:05] <TheSpunkyLobster> would a hyperthreading processor make any difference?
[03:05] <mjunx> not really
[03:05] <mjunx> ht enables SMP in the kernel, but that isn't an issue (IME)
[03:06] <acdspit00> can anyone help me install beryl?
[03:06] <mjunx> acdspit00, !beryl
[03:06] <acdspit00> i just installed my ati video drivers
[03:06] <mjunx> er
[03:06] <mjunx> !beryl | acdspit00
[03:06] <ubotu> acdspit00: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:06] <mjunx> and wiki.beryl-project.org
[03:06] <acdspit00> i couldnt find directions for kubuntu before just ubuntu
[03:07] <mjunx> it's the same
[03:07] <TheSpunkyLobster> not even sure where to start when it comes to messing with the bios heh
[03:07] <mjunx> hmm, not a good idea to mess around in there then I guess :)
[03:07] <acdspit00> how do i run root@lupine.me.uk.gpg
[03:08] <acdspit00> gpg's with kebuntu
[03:08] <mjunx> sudo apt-key add root@yada.gpg
[03:08] <acdspit00> thanks
[03:08] <TheSpunkyLobster> that's pretty much what i thought too heh
[03:09] <mjunx> do any other livecds work on it? try knoppix 5.1.1
[03:10] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok will have to download it first though :)
[03:10] <mjunx> yeah
[03:10] <mjunx> ok, let me know what happens :)
[03:10] <acdspit00> sudoapt-key add root@lupine.me.uk.gpg "cant open bla.gpg no such file or directory
[03:10] <khirr> any download acelerator ofr mi kubuntu?
[03:11] <acdspit00> i know i should just end my life now if i cant even install the gpg i am linux newb
[03:11] <mjunx> khirr, KGet
[03:11] <pollyo> Any idea where I might find information on getting kubuntu to run on a dell dimension e510?  I keep getting an error when booting off the live disk.  The graphics system doesn't start.
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <khirr> but...not acelerate my download
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <mjunx> hey no spamming
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <mjunx> Riddell!!
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <easytiger> kill him
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:11] <mjunx> I can't
[03:11] <sebis> elsebis_87@hotmail.com
[03:12] <mjunx> !op
[03:12] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[03:12] <mjunx> there we go
[03:12] <mjunx> I think he got scared and stopped
[03:12] <easytiger> why would one spam an email address?
[03:13] <mjunx> he wants it spammed maybe
[03:13] <easytiger> plonker
[03:14] <TheSpunkyLobster> downloading knopix now
[03:14] <TheSpunkyLobster> as it's 2am, i think i'll leave it going and try in the morning
[03:15] <mjunx> alrighty
[03:15] <TheSpunkyLobster> thanks for the help so far though :)
[03:24] <acdspit00> i installed my ati drivers and when i drag boxes or move down on the scroll in staggers whats a good way to ensure they beeninstalled correctly?
[03:26] <intelikey> anyone know enough about tzconfiguration to help me setup utc-5 ?
[03:29] <acdspit00> this apt database could not be opened...
[03:31] <felix_> does anyone know where i could find the configuration file for k9copy or any way of turning off the openGL preview option?
[03:32] <mjunx> look in ~/.kde/share/config/
[03:32] <mjunx> for k9copyrc or similar
[03:32] <felix_> allright thanks
[03:32] <felix_> ok
[03:33] <acdspit00> mjunx ill pay you 10 dollars to help me get my kebuntu straight..
[03:33] <acdspit00> lol
[03:33] <Yeason> ok, I'm back, now i'm getting the issue: 'Your Installation isn't able to compile simpe C++ programs'. It suggests to check for the package libstdc++-dev but I already have that. any ideas?
[03:33] <mjunx> lol, what's the problem?
[03:34] <intelikey> Yeason install build-essential
[03:34] <acdspit00> my adept manager wont start
[03:34] <acdspit00> so i cant even attempt to put beryl on
[03:34] <felix_> k9copyrc doesnt seem to have any mention of the openGL option...
[03:34] <acdspit00> not sure if my ati graphics card install is working still a little choppy
[03:35] <intelikey> !beryl | acdspit00 and count your blessings
[03:35] <ubotu> acdspit00 and count your blessings: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:35] <acdspit00> trying to follow http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[03:35] <acdspit00> for install
[03:35] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | acdspit00
[03:35] <ubotu> acdspit00: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:35] <mjunx> acdspit00, er, efb
[03:36] <acdspit00> cannot stat /var/dkpkg/lock: no such file or directory
[03:37] <mjunx> spell it right ;p
[03:37] <mjunx> dpkg
[03:37] <acdspit00> thats what i meant
[03:37] <acdspit00> acdspit00@acdspit00-laptop:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:38] <acdspit00> Cannot stat /var/dpkg/lock: No such file or directory
[03:38] <mjunx> check /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:39] <acdspit00> type this?
[03:39] <acdspit00> sudo fuser check /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:40] <mjunx> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:40] <mjunx> if that doesn't err about a dpkg lock, then no worries there
[03:40] <acdspit00> no error
[03:41] <mjunx> so what's wrong with adept then?
[03:41] <computerex> Hey guys. Can someone who has a good collection of screen resolutions get me the xorg.conf as an example?
[03:41] <mjunx> !modeline
[03:41] <ubotu> A Modeline is a configuration line in the X server configuration file that provides information about a connected computer monitor or television and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here is 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[03:41] <mjunx> there's some info
[03:42] <computerex> For some reason, I am not getting 1152 x 864
[03:42] <acdspit00> could not open cache- the apt database could not be opened!  This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.  Try running a-t=setup and apt-get upate in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem
[03:42] <computerex> Even thought I am getting higher resolutions then 1152 x 864. Thanks
[03:42] <computerex> thought = though
[03:42] <sherifffff> hi!
[03:43] <sherifffff> I need some help with my network ...
[03:43] <mjunx> acdspit00, try running "sudo aptitude update"
[03:44] <acdspit00> E: Type 'http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <acdspit00> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:44] <acdspit00> E: Type 'http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <acdspit00> E: The list of sources could not be read
[03:45] <mjunx> oh, that could be an issue
[03:45] <mjunx> !pastebin
[03:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:45] <mjunx> paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file in there
[03:45] <sherifffff> can anyone help me with a network problemmmm ???
[03:45] <sherifffff> ???
[03:45] <mjunx> ask away
[03:45] <fignew> sherifffff: you need to ask the question before anyone can help you....
[03:46] <sherifffff> well ..
[03:46] <sherifffff> yes ..
[03:46] <sherifffff> I have adsl ...
[03:46] <sherifffff> and two pcs
[03:47] <sherifffff> in the machine that is connected adsl (over ethernet) there are two network cards
[03:47] <sherifffff> one for adsl (for the modem) and one to connect to the network cable
[03:47] <sherifffff> that is connected to the other pc
[03:48] <sherifffff> I couldn't configure it to bring internet to the other pc
[03:48] <fignew> just making sure: is it a crossover cable? or is it connected through a hub/switch?
[03:48] <sherifffff> crossover
[03:48] <fignew> ok
[03:48] <sherifffff> it is crossover-ed
[03:48] <sherifffff> but ..
[03:48] <fignew> 2 steps required
[03:49] <sherifffff> the pcs don't regonize between
[03:49] <acdspit00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10427/plain/
[03:49] <acdspit00> mjunx http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10427/plain/
[03:49] <fignew> sherifffff: do they have the right IP address?
[03:49] <fignew> addresses*
[03:49] <sherifffff> I found in internet but my problem is so specific...
[03:49] <sherifffff> thats the problem
[03:49] <fignew> nah
[03:50] <mjunx> acdspit00, that line should have a "deb" in front of it like all the others do
[03:50] <fignew> they do have the right ip addresses right?
[03:50] <sherifffff> when I restart the primary computer, and the otherr is off, the "eth" name changes ...
[03:50] <sherifffff> from eth1 to eth2
[03:51] <sherifffff> or from eth2 to eth1
[03:51] <_4strO> acdspit00: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[03:51] <fignew> hmm
[03:51] <fignew> sherifffff: 1 sec
[03:51] <sherifffff> the only one that doesn't change is eth0
[03:51] <_4strO> you need a / at the end of url
[03:51] <mjunx> he needed a "deb" in the line
[03:51] <sherifffff> yes I have asigned the ips
[03:52] <_4strO> lol and a deb a the beginning
[03:52] <acdspit00> a deb where
[03:52] <_4strO> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[03:52] <sherifffff> but the interfaces change ...
[03:53] <acdspit00> oh thanks
[03:53] <_4strO> or deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn for the svn version
[03:53] <fignew> sherifffff: what does /etc/iftab say?
[03:54] <acdspit00> i tried to edit with kate but it says i dont have write permission
[03:54] <sherifffff> yees ...
[03:54] <mjunx> edit it as root
[03:54] <acdspit00> is there someway i have to sudo it b4
[03:54] <mjunx> right click -> actions -> edit as root
[03:54] <mjunx> or just kdesu kate file
[03:54] <sherifffff> it gives me the ifaces as you know
[03:55] <sherifffff> sometimes eth2, sometimes eth1
[03:55] <sherifffff> and eth0 always
[03:55] <Gh0st75> how much space does the average edgy install take up, and is feisty likely to require much more?
[03:55] <sherifffff> when I'm connected it gives me ppp0
[03:55] <fignew> sherifffff: great!, what does /etc/iftab say?
[03:55] <mjunx> feisty will be somewhere around the same
[03:55] <sherifffff> iftab
[03:56] <sherifffff> is iftab a file ????
[03:56] <sherifffff> uhh
[03:56] <sherifffff> I don't know it. ..
[03:56] <sherifffff> and now I'm not in linux ...I'm in a ciber ..
[03:56] <Gh0st75> not even sure how to check for what my current install of edgy is using
[03:56] <sherifffff> does that file exist ???
[03:56] <fignew> it should...
[03:56] <sherifffff> I didnt know ...
[03:56] <_4strO> sherifffff: cat /etc/iftab
[03:57] <sherifffff> fignew ...
[03:57] <mjunx> hmm, exists for me, didn't know about it either
[03:57] <fignew> _4strO: he's not at his PC :P
[03:57] <Gh0st75> konqueror shows HD icons for my other drives, but not the main OS drive
[03:57] <sherifffff> I give you my msn ...
[03:57] <fignew> sherifffff: I just have aim
[03:57] <fignew> 1 sec
[03:57] <sherifffff> when I'm at home I talk to you
[03:57] <_4strO> should be better ...
[03:58] <_4strO> ^^
[03:58] <fignew> sherifffff: it should say: eth0 mac 00:0e:0c:bc:8a:a3 arp 1
[03:58] <fignew> with the correct mac address
[03:58] <sherifffff> arp 1 ?
[03:58] <sherifffff> ahhh
[03:58] <fignew> eth1 too
[03:58] <sherifffff> the mac
[03:58] <fignew> arp 1, not sure what that does, but it's default on my feisty install
[03:58] <sherifffff> and if it doesn't say ?
[03:58] <sherifffff> how I obtain the mac
[03:59] <fignew> ifconfig
[03:59] <fignew> has it
[03:59] <sherifffff> ahh
[03:59] <sherifffff> remember
[03:59] <sherifffff> i can connect to inet
[03:59] <sherifffff> but
[03:59] <dromer> !upgrade
[03:59] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:59] <fignew> you don't need to be connected to have a mac address
[03:59] <sherifffff> i can't establish the connection between the tho computers ...
[03:59] <fignew> macaddress is hardware... it never changes
[03:59] <sherifffff> ah
[04:00] <sherifffff> yess
[04:00] <fignew> sherifffff: you can install guidedog
[04:00] <fignew> !guidedog
[04:00] <ubotu> guidedog: NAT/masquerading/port-forwarding configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 122 kB, installed size 440 kB
[04:00] <sherifffff> do you understand the topology I described ??
[04:00] <sherifffff> guidelog ...
[04:00] <sherifffff> let's see what is
[04:00] <fignew> sherifffff: yes, I have the same setup
[04:01] <sherifffff> ahhhh
[04:01] <sherifffff> so ...
[04:01] <fignew> except, no ADSL
[04:01] <sherifffff> ok
[04:01] <sherifffff> ahhh
[04:01] <sherifffff> thats a difference ...
[04:01] <sherifffff> because
[04:02] <sherifffff> when I was without adsl, the network was working vey well
[04:02] <fignew> is it broken because of the eth2?
[04:02] <sherifffff> something like that
[04:03] <sherifffff> i can't make they connect
[04:03] <sherifffff> between
[04:03] <sherifffff> a best choice is a switch but now I haven't money
[04:03] <cpk1> sherifffff: so your problem is that the computer connected to the main computer cant access the internet?
[04:03] <fignew> sherifffff: then assigning it the right name with /etc/iftab should help
[04:03] <sherifffff> no
[04:04] <fignew> no who?
[04:04] <sherifffff> the machine connected to the main machine cant ping to that machine ..
[04:04] <cpk1> sherifffff: did you assign them both an ip that is on the same network?
[04:04] <sherifffff> yess...
[04:04] <sherifffff> the router ip is
[04:05] <sherifffff> 192.168.1.1
[04:05] <sherifffff> so
[04:05] <sherifffff> the subnet is 192.168.1.1
[04:05] <sherifffff> sorry
[04:05] <sherifffff> 192.168.1.0
[04:05] <lahcen> hi guys,
[04:05] <fignew> ok
[04:05] <cpk1> eth1 on the main computer is connected to the router right? so make eth2 have an ip of 192.168.7.1
[04:06] <cpk1> then make the second computer have an ip of 192.168.7.2
[04:06] <sherifffff> yes ..
[04:06] <sherifffff> but
[04:06] <sherifffff> .7.x ???
[04:07] <cpk1> or anything but 1 really
[04:07] <lahcen> I am trying to install GnuCash, but if i install it from Adept it has a broken dependency, so i am trying compiling it from source and it is asking for Slib, But Slib is installed,,,, Any Ideas???
[04:07] <sherifffff> the modem subnet is 192.168.1.1
[04:07] <sherifffff> i tried
[04:07] <sherifffff> but they doesn't see
[04:07] <sherifffff> no ...
[04:07] <cpk1> yeah so put eth2 on a different subnet
[04:07] <sherifffff> the main pc could ping to the other
[04:07] <sherifffff> but the other no ..
[04:07] <sherifffff> ahh
[04:07] <sherifffff> on a different subnet?
[04:07] <mjunx> lahcen, you need slib-dev
[04:07] <sherifffff> eth2 ... you refer to ...
[04:07] <mjunx> or whatever it is
[04:08] <sherifffff> what is eth2 for you ..
[04:08] <cpk1> sherifffff: the modem is connected to eth1 on 192.168.1.1 right?
[04:08] <sherifffff> yes
[04:08] <sherifffff> thats the modem ip
[04:09] <sherifffff> i can configure it to route, but only can access from windows
[04:09] <sherifffff> to that configuration
[04:09] <sherifffff> but I explained to fignew...
[04:09] <cpk1> ok so eth1 is connected to the modem. make eth2 have an ip 192.168.X.yyy and dont make X=1
[04:09] <lahcen> Mjunx: i did install that too
[04:09] <sherifffff> ahhhhhhh
[04:09] <shiv_j> my firefox fonts suck desktop fonts look great :(
[04:10] <sherifffff> ahh..
[04:10] <sherifffff> and the local machine -...
[04:10] <sherifffff> so, the local network address for the main machine ??
[04:10] <sherifffff> for example : 192.168.5.1 and for the second 192.168.5.2 ..
[04:11] <sherifffff> is that correct ?
[04:11] <cpk1> sherifffff: the main machine has 2 NIC's keep the NIC that is connected to the modem the same (this is probably eth1) the other NIC change to 192.168.somethingbesideswhattheotherNIChas.xxx
[04:12] <sherifffff> ahhh
[04:12] <sherifffff> ok
[04:12] <sherifffff> i'll do it
[04:12] <sherifffff> and I foun information on inet
[04:12] <sherifffff> that I have to use masquerade
[04:13] <sherifffff> to share the inet conection
[04:13] <sherifffff> ...
[04:13] <cpk1> sherifffff: yes it is very easy you just use MASQUERADE in iptables and change the 0 in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to a one
[04:14] <cpk1> sherifffff: but first you need to be able to ping the boxes
[04:14] <sherifffff> yes.. that right
[04:15] <sherifffff> it doesn't mind samba, and the resources sharing... but I need the connection to adsl in the other pc!!!
[04:15] <intelikey> why am i concerned with this ?   Universal Time is now:  Thu Mar 15 03:14:06 UTC 2007.
[04:15] <sherifffff> noW!
[04:15] <sherifffff> jeje
[04:15] <sherifffff> ok thanks
[04:16] <sherifffff> would you like to give me your mail ?? so I send a mail if I'm success ??
[04:16] <cpk1> ?? you should be able to find out right now if it works
[04:18] <sherifffff> no
[04:18] <sherifffff> I'm not at home
[04:18] <sherifffff> now I go ...in a minute
[04:19] <cpk1> sherifffff: well if you have problems at hom you can always come back in here
[04:19] <sherifffff> ok ok
[04:19] <sherifffff> thank you
[04:19] <sherifffff> good luck
[04:20] <sherifffff> how I was writing ?? because I speak spanish ...
[04:20] <cpk1> hmm?
[04:21] <sherifffff> OT: if I wrote well ...
[04:21] <sherifffff> because my english is "flaky"
[04:22] <cpk1> your english is good enough to understand easily
[04:22] <sherifffff> haha ok!
[04:22] <sherifffff> bye!
[04:23] <intelikey> ok i think i got the tzconfig streight now.
[04:24] <mohd> Back again...after recovering from a "system failiure" because something was wrong with xorg.conf
[04:24] <intelikey> xorg != system
[04:24] <mjunx> !es | sheriffffffffff
[04:24] <ubotu> sheriffffffffff: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:25] <mohd> Couldn't boot into the desktop enviroment, so I had to recover xorg through the recovery option in my GRUB
[04:26] <lahcen> mjunx: I looked for slib-dev but there is only pslib-dev, are they in anyway the same?
[04:26] <computerex> Can someone PLEASE give me an example of their xorg.conf? I am desperately trying to get 1152 x 864 res working...
[04:26] <intelikey> interesting.   alt+f2 > kicker   wont start a panel in kde  but it will in gnome
[04:26] <mjunx> well, you can check their descriptions
[04:26] <Kevin> anyone know how to install a game controller??
[04:26] <mjunx> !resolution
[04:26] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:26] <mjunx> there ya go computerex
[04:26] <shiv_j> my firefox fonts suck desktop fonts look great :( any suggestions?
[04:29] <mjunx> !fonts
[04:29] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:29] <intelikey> oh wait.  kicker is running it just looks like a cursor box/square
[04:29] <ubuntu> Hi all
[04:29] <computerex> Thanks. My video drivers are set up correctly. The resoulutions I am getting are: 640 x 400  640 x 480 800 x 600 1024 x 768 1280 x 1024 and 1400 x 1050
[04:30] <computerex> I would like to get 1152 x 864 as well
[04:30] <frutax> What would my problem be if .deb files are only opening in ark and not in a package installer?
[04:30] <computerex> But no matter what I try, it just doesn't appear as one of the choices
[04:30] <mjunx> frutax, the default application setting for it probably; just right click to get the package install menu thinger
[04:31] <frutax> oh yep, there it is. heh i feel stupid, thank you mjunx
[04:33] <frutax> also: this may not be the right channel for this, but i've already tried #beryl and #kde, Beryl is having trouble decorating my windows and Aquamarine isn't working, what could be the soruce of this?
[04:33] <jawee> how do i start a completely new session and wipe the old session in kde?
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> computerex: tried reconfiguring xorg?
[04:34] <mjunx> frutax, you got composite enabled?
[04:34] <Daisuke_Ido> wait, that's probably one of the options at that link...
[04:34] <Dr_willis> jawee,  depends on what you mean by session.
[04:34] <jawee> Every time it has the same applications open
[04:35] <jawee> I want to keep that, but just once I want it to do a complete new session
[04:35] <frutax> mjunx, i have it set to automatic, should i set it to COW or is there another way to see if its configured right?
[04:35] <mjunx> I don't know much about that
[04:35] <Dr_willis> jawee,  you want to select what session to use when you log in?
[04:36] <jawee> No, just to start KDE from scratch just once
[04:36] <jawee> Every time you restart you get some applications open
[04:36] <jawee> I want it to be from scratch, but only this one time
[04:36] <frutax> mjunx, ok, well thank you with the help with the .deb files
[04:36] <jawee> there is also a start new session option, but that keeps the old one in memory
[04:36] <acdspit00> i tried to kill dpkg so i could try and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but it says operation not permitted
[04:36] <mjunx> ok no prob
[04:36] <Dr_willis> jawee,  then you want to change 'back' ?  you could move the .kde dir for a little bit
[04:37] <mjunx> acdspit00, sudo kill it
[04:37] <dromer> hi, I was just upgrading to edgy from dapper using this guide: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[04:37] <acdspit00> i just tried it b4 you said it to i gotta get a hang of this stuff
[04:37] <acdspit00> lol
[04:37] <jawee> Dr_willis: No, just a fresh KDE without anything open, but with the customiztions and such
[04:37] <jawee> a new fresh session
[04:37] <dromer> and I now have this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10432/
[04:38] <Dr_willis> jawee,  i thouhg there was a 'session' manager tool in the perferances some where.. but i rarely mess with them
[04:38] <Dr_willis> "kde-componenta->session manager"
[04:39] <dromer> anybody knowm what I have to do with this dpkg error?
[04:39] <acdspit00> http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8217/snapshot1wo9.png could you check this
[04:40] <acdspit00> i am going through the fglrx install and for some reason at this step hitting enter to continue doesnt work
[04:41] <Dr_willis> hit tab a few times.. or hit Q or q perhaps  then tab and enter.
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i dont rember having to do that to get my ati card working.. but its been a while.
[04:43] <acdspit00> thanks
[04:43] <acdspit00> ill try
[04:45] <intelikey> hmmm the clock in kde shows UTC time and i don't find any way to change it.  in gnome it shows local time...
[04:45] <Dr_willis> add a timezone for it to show.
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Mine has a 'local timezone' setting
[04:46] <intelikey> Dr_willis did  added all 25 central time zones no option to "apply"
[04:46] <intelikey> i tell it "ok"  and it changes nothing
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Right click  on clock -> show timezone -> they should appear there
[04:47] <Dr_willis> mine do at least.
[04:47] <intelikey> like duh
[04:48] <dromer> kan someone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10432/
[04:48] <intelikey> did you not see what i just said?   been there done that.  no change.
[04:48] <Dr_willis> thats interesting
[04:48] <intelikey> yeah.  it doesn't give an option to "apply" the changes.
[04:48] <Dr_willis> you upgraded to the latest kde?
[04:48] <N6REJ> guys I'm having a weird problem... I installed ubuntu server and want to install the kde-desktop for the few times I want the gui, but for some reason its not starting when I say "startx
[04:48] <intelikey> no
[04:49] <N6REJ> hiya intelikey
[04:49] <intelikey> this is a default dapper install of kde
[04:49] <intelikey> N6REJ
[04:49] <Dr_willis> there is no 'apply'  button, ya just click ok. and the checked ones show up in the menus.  wonder what version of kde i am using.. lets see.
[04:49] <dromer> ok my upgrade just failed :S
[04:49] <intelikey> there is an apply button but not active
[04:49] <dromer> can somebody please help? :(
[04:49] <Dr_willis> usign kde 3.5.6 here
[04:49] <Dr_willis> there is? where..
[04:50] <nick_> can anyone help me restore my audio drivers back to default setup
[04:50] <ricky_> anyone know what's the library's name that has the command play
[04:50] <Dr_willis> guess there is. :) i just check and hit ok.. sort of an odd place for ok/apply/cancle.
[04:51] <intelikey> yeah but if the apply never goes active then the ok doesn't change anything either.
[04:51] <intelikey> ricky_ sox
[04:51] <intelikey> the package name sox contains the command play
[04:51] <ricky_> thx intelikey
[04:52] <dromer> maybe because I'm not in a console session but in KDE?
[04:52] <N6REJ> intelikey: i've got a weird kde problem.. I told ubuntu "apt-get install kdenetwork" then tried "startx" nothing, so they I said "apt-get install kde" it did its thing and still "startx" does nothing... what am I doing wrong?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> N6REJ,  install kubuntu-desktop perhaps?
[04:53] <N6REJ> Dr_willis: apparently that was it cause its off to dl a gig of data
[04:53] <intelikey> N6REJ  x-window-system-core - X Window System core components
[04:53] <N6REJ> would have thought it did that originally.
[04:54] <intelikey> N6REJ install that.  then it should work.
[04:54] <Skuller> hey guys..i just came back from school and saw that my konversation icon was blinking red indicating someone had referred to me in the chat....but i cant find a single person in here
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  it may of scrolled off the top
[04:55] <Dr_willis> and be out of the history buffer. :)
[04:55] <Skuller> Dr_willis: ohh...ok i'll check my logs...thanks
[04:55] <intelikey> N6REJ you can let it install all the krap that goes with kubuntu-desktop or just install the  x-window-system-core  package either will get x going.
[04:55] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  or it was a spam bot.. :)
[04:56] <N6REJ> next q, going to have a VERY mixed os environment now.  One laptop that will either be kde or xp/kde dual, mac G3 machine, xp machine, 98SE machine ( kids ). the server is going to be the central repository for all the shared files.  I don't know wether to use nfs or samba or????
[04:56] <N6REJ> intelikey: gotcha
[04:56] <Skuller> Dr_willis: hmm...i saw a spammer on top who was posting a lot of email id's...and someone calling for !op...but ubotu dint call my name
[04:57] <intelikey> N6REJ samba over nfs   you'll need samba for the windows boxes to interact respectably with linux i think.
[04:57] <N6REJ> intelikey: anything special for the mac?
[04:57] <N6REJ> os 10.3.9
[04:57] <intelikey> have no clue.
[04:58] <N6REJ> intelikey: heehhe that makes two of us.. I jsut barely learned how to access the cli on it.
[04:58] <N6REJ> !mac
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <N6REJ> !osx
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about osx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <N6REJ> intelikey: I hate to admit it but the UI is so simple its hard!
[04:59] <Dr_willis> I found the os-x ui lacking in ways.. but it did have some neat ideas.. but then again OS-9 had neat ideas- that they just tossed out after years of use...
[04:59] <Skuller> !mac
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <N6REJ> Dr_willis: what really impressed me with the mac is everything just "worked"  the dock made life simple and all the networked hardware was found without me even asking it to go look.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> N6REJ,  you dont want to hear about the DISASTERS ive had with apple hardware then.      :)
[05:01] <Dr_willis> heh heh.. but it was a time of 'changes' for the appple hardware line at the time. so they got a few excuses.. but not many.
[05:02] <N6REJ> Dr_willis: lol, I Figure like any hardware theres bound to be horror storys... at least they have never had the rap that packard bell has had, but one thing they have always had over ANY other HW is the high graphics quality.
[05:02] <intelikey> and all the networked hardware was found without me even asking it to go look. <<< that alone would cause me to shoot it.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> we had a discussion of apple and their hardware the other day in here.. :)
[05:03] <N6REJ> intelikey: lol, remember its on DESKTOP os, so it should be very USER intuitive.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> and wether or not it was worth the cost premium
[05:03] <Dr_willis> apple also toutes their os as a server os. :)
[05:03] <N6REJ> Dr_willis: that I'm not sure about... My gut says no, but the graphics sure are top notch
[05:03] <Dr_willis> or so i gater from some of the ads ive seen
[05:04] <Dr_willis> N6REJ,  you mean the quality of their monitors?
[05:04] <VR_> there's a separate osx server version
[05:04] <N6REJ> Dr_willis: actually its two seperate distros
[05:04] <intelikey> USER intuitive. ?   you mean windows like ?      yes i hate it and haven't even seen it.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> VR_,  ok that makes a little more sence.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> VR_,  i was wondering how they were doing that.
[05:04] <N6REJ> Dr_willis: no, not JUST the monitor, the whole graphics package.  You take adobe on a pc  and adobe on a mac, same hw class on each and the mac will blow it away every time.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> blow what away? :) benchmarks? load times?
[05:05] <Orange1> wats the program most similar to notepad on linux?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> Orange1,  theres a dozen+ text editors out for linux.
[05:05] <Orange1> outside the terminal
[05:05] <N6REJ> Dr_willis: quality of product.  how the image looks, how it correlates with reality, etc.
[05:05] <VR_> Orange1, kate
[05:05] <Orange1> i want to read my java files
[05:05] <intelikey> Orange1 make that 3 dozen
[05:05] <Dr_willis> kate, kedit,  and proberly 20+ more
[05:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:06] <Dr_willis> i like fte. but im hardkore
[05:06] <Dr_willis> vi, vim, and its clones...
[05:06] <Dr_willis> mcedit gets used a lot by me also
[05:06] <Orange1> kate etc - have issues reading java .class files
[05:06] <VR_> nano is awesome
[05:06] <N6REJ> <---- uses nano exclusively
[05:06] <Dr_willis> i will stick with vim
[05:07] <Dr_willis> and some otheres depending on what i am doing.
[05:07] <VR_> if i could run firefox in CLI, now THAT would be awesome
[05:07] <N6REJ> VR_: hhahahah that would be funny
[05:07] <Dr_willis> there those framebuffer based browsers
[05:07] <Orange1> what can i use to open docx files?
[05:07] <intelikey> kate kwrite kword kedit gedit nano vi vim jed joe emacs elvis "openoffice writer" abiword ted    just to name a few.
[05:07] <Orange1> they are 2007 office files
[05:07] <Orange1> I tried openoffice but i get errors
[05:08] <Skuller> i guess openoffice doesnt support .docx uptil now
[05:08] <N6REJ> Orange1: 2007 is so new I doubt anything will convert yet.
[05:08] <N6REJ> its only been a few weeks
[05:08] <Orange1> ;(
[05:09] <Skuller> u will have to use office 2007 to convert it...:)
[05:09] <intelikey> why would anyone want to support a "new document format" ???    that's so....   uhh!
[05:09] <N6REJ> Orange1: xport as pdf
[05:09] <Orange1> i dont have windows anymore - lets keep it that way
[05:09] <acdspit00> anyone know ho to turn on direct rendering
[05:09] <acdspit00> i just installed fglrx and restarted
[05:09] <Orange1> i was gonna try 'recode'
[05:09] <acdspit00> but i type in the command and it still says no
[05:09] <intelikey> !ati | acdspit00
[05:09] <ubotu> acdspit00: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:10] <VR_> !tty
[05:10] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[05:10] <Skuller> yes i agree...the introduction of new n new formats is just ridiculuous....just so they can save more detailed formatting and other things...
[05:10] <N6REJ> I wonder if there's a *nix reader for 2007 so that you could export it out?
[05:10] <N6REJ> from M$
[05:10] <Skuller> lol
[05:10] <Skuller> why would M$ bother?
[05:11] <N6REJ> didn't they make a reader for 2000?
[05:11] <N6REJ> why do they make those lousy cost analysis brags LOL, they're crazy
[05:12] <Skuller> well lets just say billy is on a tight competetion and greed to make sure his OS is runnin on as much as pc's possible...considering linux is snatching the share away slowly on desktops too
[05:12] <acdspit00> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[05:12] <intelikey> i would assume that M$ 2007 can still save as .rtf   which has been around for ever and is usable on all systems
[05:12] <Nacht__> hi can someone help flash is lagging
[05:12] <dsmith> ok has anyone used canonical support for ubuntu?
[05:12] <Skuller> intelikey: yes it can save it most word formats....including .rtf, .doc, .docx, and others which i dont know
[05:13] <N6REJ> wow, surprise there already are converters.... google "docx converter linux"
[05:13] <Orange1> ok last but not least - i need some good tunes to play while i program
[05:13] <Orange1> suggestions?
[05:13] <dsmith> Orange1: rip directly from streams
[05:14] <intelikey> use a radio
[05:14] <dsmith> lol
[05:14] <Skuller> dsmith: how to rip from streams?...
[05:14] <Skuller> lol
[05:14] <dsmith> amarok & streamripper
[05:14] <Skuller> soo true
[05:14] <Orange1> lol streamers
[05:14] <dsmith> di.fm and shoutcast.com
[05:14] <Orange1> 128kbs audio?
[05:14] <dsmith> 96 mostly, but good enough
[05:14] <Orange1> 96
[05:14] <N6REJ> well, gotta run guys, more os's to fix..... hows 6.10 doing with OLD hardware?  Like a p3?
[05:14] <Skuller> http://blogmusik.net
[05:15] <Nacht__> flash is lagging pretty bad in in konquerer can someone help
[05:15] <dsmith> ever since Iupdated my nvidia driver it is consuming alot of resources..
[05:15] <Orange1> dsmith: how can you tell
[05:15] <intelikey> is p3 old ?
[05:15] <dsmith> I am watching my cpu usage..
[05:15] <Orange1> dsmith: where you take pc usage
[05:15] <Orange1> dsmith: check*
[05:16] <dsmith> I have a desktop widget
[05:16] <dsmith> shows me graphically
[05:16] <Skuller> i dont know....i remember using it a couple of years back....so not old i guess
[05:16] <Orange1> dsmith: whats it called?
[05:16] <dsmith> p3's are stll *very* viable
[05:16] <Skuller> dsmith: how to get funky widgets?
[05:17] <Skuller> well athlon xp's arent bad either then
[05:17] <dsmith> superkaramba, using the glass monitor theme
[05:17] <Orange1> sigh 12:17 -- my 30 min break is over -- time to sleep
[05:17] <Orange1> lata
[05:17] <Skuller> laterz man
[05:17] <dsmith> latrz
[05:17] <intelikey> dsmith i would hope so... "<dsmith> p3's are stll *very* viable"   i still use a p1  :)
[05:17] <dsmith> LOL
[05:18] <Skuller> k thats it...i need a 486 right away
[05:18] <intelikey> -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 64.548 seconds
[05:18] <dsmith> I could use xubuntu on a P2 I bet
[05:18] <Skuller> museum?
[05:18] <intelikey> i think i'm lagging...
[05:18] <dsmith> problem is finding a P2
[05:18] <dsmith> i tossed my 300mhz P2
[05:19] <VR_> fool!
[05:19] <Skuller> !fool
[05:19] <dsmith> ..and only source for P3 via cpu's are from china
[05:19] <intelikey> Skuller i installed mandrake 9.0 on a 486 lappy last year
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <dsmith> Shush, I could not find a suitable power supply
[05:19] <acdspit00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10433/plain/
[05:19] <Skuller> intelikey: cool
[05:20] <Skuller> Received CTCP-PING reply from intelikey: 35 seconds.
[05:20] <intelikey> what was the return time on the ping ?
[05:20] <sheriffff> hii!
[05:20] <Skuller> that was the return time
[05:20] <sheriffff> fignew ...
[05:21] <intelikey> yeah it's up and down like a roller-coster
[05:21] <Skuller> hmm
[05:21] <Skuller> whos riddell?
[05:21] <intelikey> will be for about 15 more minutes.
[05:21] <sander> hi! is it only me or is there no way to resize the kde "external taskbar"? if i go to right-click->configure->arrangement i can only change the size if the default kde-panel.
[05:21] <acdspit00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10433/plain/
[05:22] <intelikey> Skuller no it's   /whois Riddell
[05:23] <Skuller> lol..intelikey i was asking who he is....not the command...hehe...
[05:23] <intelikey> Skuller i know that.
[05:23] <Skuller> what does an operator do?
[05:23] <Skuller> hehe...sorry about that then
[05:23] <sheriffff> I have adsl connected to a pc with two ethernet cards, eth0 connected to another machine of the network, and eth1 connected to internet .I configured the ips and I can't ping between machines, and it says:"host unreachable". Nmap says: "all ports firewalled" .. anyone know why ???
[05:24] <intelikey> Skuller that does tell "who he is"    but you wanted to know if he's a chanop or ircop ?
[05:25] <Skuller> intelikey: i have no idea whats the diff between the two....i just ,bluntly, wanted to know why his icon is green and since he is an 'operator' what all can he do in here
[05:25] <intelikey> Skuller chanops moderate and regulate the channel  ircops do the same with the servers themselves
[05:25] <voidmage> Skuller: a chanop is an op in the channel
[05:25] <voidmage> ircops manage servers
[05:25] <Skuller> ohh
[05:25] <Skuller> so is he always the chanop here?
[05:25] <voidmage> anyways, he's just a chanop
[05:26] <sheriffff> I have adsl connected to a pc with two ethernet cards, eth0: connected to another machine of the network, and eth1 connected to internet .I configured the ips and I can't ping between machines, and it says:"host unreachable". Nmap says: "all ports firewalled" .. anyone know why ???
[05:26] <Skuller> and is a chanop always present in a channel?
[05:26] <acdspit00> how do you install all the right gpg keys
[05:26] <Skuller> acdspit00: you find them in sources.list
[05:26] <intelikey> Skuller hehe  and according to what i see (with all the lag)  i answered before you asked   lol
[05:27] <Skuller> intelikey: lol yea...i wondered how the answer came so fast....
[05:27] <sheriffff> I have adsl connected to a pc with two ethernet cards, eth0: connected to another machine of the network, and eth1 connected to internet .I configured the ips and I can't ping between machines, and it says:"host unreachable". Nmap says: "all ports firewalled" .. anyone know why ???
[05:28] <deathnote> anyone knows what tools to use to convert fla to avi format in kubuntu?
[05:28] <intelikey> Skuller yeah   he and several others    although any of them can "deop" themselves and use chanserv to "op" themselves at will.
[05:28] <Skuller> ohh...cool
[05:28] <SolidSource> deathnote: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Multimedia+Converter++?content=53610
[05:28] <sheriffff> I have adsl connected to a pc with two ethernet cards, eth0: connected to another machine of the network, and eth1 connected to internet .I configured the ips and I can't ping between machines, and it says:"host unreachable". Nmap says: "all ports firewalled" .. anyone know why ???
[05:29] <sheriffff> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:29] <sheriffff> neeeedd heelllpp!!
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <Skuller> chillax man...
[05:29] <deathnote> sheriffff: type route and paste what u see?
[05:29] <sheriffff> ok
[05:30] <sheriffff> 200.51.241.25x  *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[05:30] <Skuller> what does !op do?
[05:30] <intelikey> Skuller when a netsplit happens and chanserv is not on the server that the op is on and they are not op'd they are as weak as anyone else  :)    but if op'd they can show you to the door before you can say ^C
[05:30] <sheriffff> 192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[05:30] <sheriffff> 169.254.0.0     *               255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth1
[05:30] <sheriffff> default         *               0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp0
[05:30] <SolidSource> !pastebin > sheriff
[05:30] <SolidSource> !pastebin > sheriffff
[05:30] <intelikey> :)
[05:30] <sheriffff> ...
[05:30] <sheriffff> ?????
[05:30] <deathnote> sheriffff: one thing is that, both eth sould have different netmask..ok..
[05:31] <deathnote> sheriffff: eth 0 is your another machine right?
[05:31] <Skuller> intelikey: cool...i am beginning to love the things work around here
[05:31] <Skuller> the way*
[05:31] <sheriffff> eth0 is the interface
[05:31] <sheriffff> that is connected to the other machine
[05:31] <Skuller> what is ^
[05:31] <sheriffff> i can ping me
[05:31] <sheriffff> 192.168.2.1
[05:32] <sheriffff> but no: 192.168.2.2
[05:32] <bill57785> ok, what can I use to partition my HDD?
[05:32] <deathnote> sheriffff: what's your machine's ip now? ifconfig
[05:32] <Skuller> !qtparted | bill57785
[05:32] <ubotu> bill57785: qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[05:32] <deathnote> sheriffff: use the other machine to ping your ip to see if its connected in the internal network.. after that then we resolve internet
[05:32] <intelikey> Skuller the boot command !ops <don't test it> is used to notify all ops that there is a situation in the channel and that one of them is needed...   how ever playing with that command will find a ban for self super pronto.
[05:32] <Skuller> niiiiiice.....
[05:33] <intelikey> s6boot6bot6
[05:33] <Dr_Willi1> ;)
[05:33] <Skuller> dont you just love it when you know where the 'dont push' button is
[05:33] <sheriffff> mmm
[05:33] <sheriffff> yes
[05:33] <sheriffff> I can't ping from the other machine
[05:33] <intelikey> :)
[05:33] <sheriffff> "tiempo de espera agotado"
[05:33] <deathnote> sheriffff: your eth0 is connected to a router or what?
[05:34] <Skuller> !es
[05:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:34] <intelikey> better to know than to stumble upon it by mistake
[05:34] <Skuller> yea...thanks fer the info
[05:34] <intelikey> like i did
[05:34] <intelikey> ;S
[05:34] <Skuller> realli?....hehe...cool
[05:34] <sheriffff> eth0
[05:34] <deathnote> sheriffff: what do u see in ifconfig in eth0 ? what's your ip addressS?
[05:34] <intelikey> yeah got a short term ban for it.
[05:34] <bill57785> Skuller: ok, but how do I use it? I screwed up GRUB when I changed my partition size, so now I'm using the LiveCD to fix it
[05:34] <sheriffff> eth0 is connected to the other machine
[05:35] <sheriffff> and eth1 to the modem that gives me adsl
[05:35] <sheriffff> I have two cards in a machine
[05:35] <Skuller> bil
[05:35] <sheriffff> one to the modem, and another for the local network
[05:35] <intelikey> ok later folks.
[05:35] <Skuller> k laterz man...enjoi
[05:35] <Skuller> gnight*
[05:35] <sheriffff> eth0: inet addr:192.168.2.1
[05:36] <Skuller> bill57785: no idea..please refer to someone else
[05:36] <bill57785> sorry, GAIM crashed
[05:36] <bill57785> ok then
[05:36] <deathnote> sheriffff: eth0 is connected to what machine? which is acting as the server? current machine or the other one?
[05:36] <sheriffff> mmm
[05:37] <sheriffff> look the messages from samba ...
[05:37] <sheriffff> wait
[05:37] <sheriffff> "  process_local_master_announce: Server VIEJA at IP 192.168.2.2 is announcing itself as a local master browser for workgroup CASA and we think we are master. Forcing election."
[05:37] <sheriffff> "WE"
[05:37] <deathnote> sheriffff: i suppose your current machine is acting as a server so it must act as a dhcp server to give out ip address to your other machine?
[05:38] <sheriffff> ahhh
[05:38] <sheriffff> someone told me that
[05:38] <mdaddy> Quick question -- due to my SATA RAID0 I had to install kubuntu edgy piece by piece from the command-line, and thus none of the user groups/permissions were created that I guess would normally have been created by the installer.  How do I get them created?
[05:38] <sheriffff> how do I do ...
[05:40] <deathnote> sheriffff: i think u better solve the internet first
[05:40] <sheriffff> there I pasted "route"
[05:40] <sheriffff> mm ?
[05:40] <sheriffff> yes ..
[05:40] <sheriffff> I MUST ping between, before anything
[05:40] <deathnote> sheriffff: eth1 .. is a adsl modem right? what's the ip of the adsl modem? does it have dhcp on?
[05:41] <sheriffff> is a zyxel prestige 600, it's routeable but I think it hasn't dhcp on
[05:41] <sheriffff> what is the process I must run ??
[05:41] <deathnote> ohh i had that before..hm
[05:41] <deathnote> ok
[05:41] <sheriffff> "dhcpcd"
[05:41] <sheriffff> ??
[05:42] <deathnote> u know how to access the router using firefox right? type in the ip address of the router
[05:42] <deathnote> and log in
[05:42] <sheriffff> that is the problem
[05:42] <sheriffff> it doesn't respond
[05:43] <sheriffff> "connecting to 192.168.1.1 ..."
[05:43] <sheriffff> and anything
[05:43] <sheriffff> and
[05:43] <deathnote> can u pm?
[05:43] <sheriffff> from windows I can access ...
[05:43] <deathnote> ifdown eth0 first
[05:44] <deathnote> configure eth1
[05:44] <cpk1> no it doesnt need to act as a dhcp server if he sets the ip on the other machine
[05:44] <sheriffff> cpk1!
[05:44] <deathnote> do u know the login, and ipaddress of the router??
[05:44] <sheriffff> yes ...
[05:44] <sheriffff> 192.168.1.1
[05:44] <sheriffff> but it keeps there ...
[05:44] <deathnote> then edit your /etc/network/interface
[05:45] <sheriffff> from win I can access ..
[05:45] <deathnote> edit the eth1
[05:45] <cpk1> sheriffff: you dont need to change the interface that is connected to the modem
[05:45] <sheriffff> no
[05:45] <sheriffff> I don't change it
[05:45] <sheriffff> it automatically asignns an ip
[05:46] <mdaddy> I had to install kubuntu edgy piece by piece from the command-line, and thus none of the user groups/permissions were created that I guess would normally have been created by the installer.  How do I get them created?
[05:46] <sheriffff> eth1: 169.254.99.111
[05:46] <cpk1> you do however need to change the ip for the interface connecting to the other computer
[05:46] <sheriffff> yes ...
[05:46] <sheriffff> that's right
[05:46] <sheriffff> did you read all ??
[05:46] <sheriffff> I assigned 192.168.2.2
[05:46] <sheriffff> to the other machine
[05:46] <sheriffff> known as VIEJA in the workgroup
[05:46] <sheriffff> and now I have these messages
[05:47] <sheriffff>   process_local_master_announce: Server VIEJA at IP 192.168.2.2 is announcing itself as a local master browser for workgroup CASA and we think we are master. Forcing election.
[05:47] <sheriffff> nmap 192.168.2.2
[05:47] <sheriffff> all firewalled..
[05:47] <sheriffff> something is wrong in the comunication
[05:47] <deathnote> ip address of eth1 is 169.254.99.111 ? can u ping to outside world?
[05:47] <cpk1> did you install some iptables frontend like kguardog or anything?
[05:48] <sheriffff> guidedog
[05:48] <sheriffff> I installed
[05:48] <cpk1> i think normally that might create a lot of rules that will firewall stuff
[05:48] <sheriffff> deathnote: yes...
[05:48] <sheriffff> mmm
[05:49] <sheriffff> I opened guidedog
[05:49] <cpk1> and dont set eth0 to 192.168.2.0 i dont know if that is valid, use 192.168.2.1
[05:49] <sheriffff> yees...
[05:49] <sheriffff> its 192.168.2.1
[05:49] <sheriffff> and...
[05:49] <sheriffff> in the other machine, on windows 98
[05:50] <sheriffff> the "gateway" field, must be ...
[05:50] <SolidSource> sheriffff: do you mean guarddog?
[05:50] <sheriffff> 192.168.2.1
[05:50] <sheriffff> ??
[05:50] <sheriffff> guarddog ??
[05:50] <sheriffff> noo
[05:50] <cpk1> yes
[05:50] <sheriffff> guidedog
[05:50] <SolidSource> k
[05:50] <sheriffff> I have enabled routing
[05:51] <cpk1> sheriffff: is there a reason you got guidedog? if you just want to let the other computer to access the net you dont really need it
[05:51] <sheriffff> and "enable ip masquerade"
[05:51] <Dr_willis> !info guidedog
[05:51] <ubotu> guidedog: NAT/masquerading/port-forwarding configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 122 kB, installed size 440 kB
[05:51] <sheriffff> ahhh
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. never used that tool befro
[05:52] <sheriffff> yes..
[05:52] <sheriffff> that is
[05:52] <sheriffff> so ..
[05:52] <sheriffff> I turn off "routing"
[05:52] <cpk1> I have no clue how to use guidedog
[05:52] <sheriffff> mm
[05:53] <sheriffff> do you want my "route" table ?
[05:53] <deathnote> doesn't your machine need to act as a dhcp server to let another machine to connect on?
[05:53] <sheriffff> welll
[05:53] <sheriffff> how do I do that
[05:53] <sheriffff> dhcpcd ?
[05:53] <cpk1> no you dont need to
[05:53] <sheriffff> ah
[05:54] <sheriffff> do you want my "route" table cpk ?
[05:54] <cpk1> first we need to establish a connection and make sure it works then we can worry about dhcp if he even wants that
[05:54] <sheriffff> yes
[05:54] <deathnote> just make sure your gateway of the other machine to be your current machine
[05:54] <sheriffff> first I must ping between
[05:54] <sheriffff> yes, it is
[05:54] <deathnote> ur current machine is 192.168.2.1 ?
[05:54] <sheriffff> yes
[05:55] <deathnote> the other one is 192.168.2.2 ?
[05:55] <sheriffff> but remember cpk that the ping requests are "filtered"
[05:55] <sheriffff> so... there is a connection
[05:55] <sheriffff> a half-connection
[05:55] <cpk1> why are you filtering them?
[05:55] <sheriffff> else it says "unknow host" see ?
[05:56] <cpk1> you should set it up so eth0 is completely unfirewalled
[05:56] <sheriffff> deathnote : yes
[05:56] <sheriffff> mm ?
[05:56] <sheriffff> how do I unfirewall it ?
[05:57] <hendaus> hi friends
[05:57] <cpk1> well I imagine guidedog has some way of doing since it did it in the first place, by default an interface has no firewall rules
[05:57] <hendaus> i  need a help please
[05:58] <sheriffff> lets see
[05:58] <deathnote> yup uninstall guidedog?
[05:58] <cpk1> !ask
[05:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:58] <deathnote> hah
[05:58] <cletus> hi all
[05:58] <hendaus> how can i burn a vcd from DAT
[05:58] <cpk1> sheriffff: do you only want to set up MASQUERADE and thats all you want to do with iptables?
[05:59] <sheriffff> yes ..
[05:59] <sheriffff> I only want to share connection
[05:59] <sheriffff> have I got to restart the networking after reconfigure ?
[06:00] <deathnote> .2 and .1 is still not talking?
[06:00] <cpk1> sheriffff: it would probably save you a lot less headache to purge guidedog
[06:00] <deathnote> yup..uninstall it ;p
[06:00] <sheriffff> no
[06:00] <hendaus> Helpers, can anyone help me please!!
[06:00] <deathnote> just kill the guidedog first
[06:00] <sheriffff> guidedog
[06:00] <sheriffff> only
[06:00] <sheriffff> is not filtering
[06:00] <sheriffff> it only has
[06:00] <sheriffff> "enable routing"
[06:01] <sheriffff> and "enable masquerade"
[06:01] <cpk1> then why are pings being filtered?
[06:01] <sheriffff> it's inoffensive
[06:01] <sheriffff> I don't know
[06:01] <sheriffff> ahhh
[06:01] <sheriffff> iftab
[06:01] <sheriffff> shows me only eth0
[06:01] <sheriffff> it doesn't show me eth1 and his mac..
[06:01] <sheriffff> can be dthat ???
[06:01] <sheriffff> a mac problem?
[06:02] <cpk1> eth1 is the one going to the internet right?
[06:02] <deathnote> since u don have dhcp..don't think its a mac prob?
[06:02] <sheriffff> yeh
[06:02] <deathnote> can u ps aux | grep dhcp ?
[06:02] <deathnote> what's running
[06:03] <cpk1> YOU DONT NEED DHCP TO CONNECT TO TWO COMPUTERS
[06:03] <sheriffff> root      7180  0.0  0.1   2812   760 pts/4    R+   02:02   0:00 grep dhcp
[06:04] <deathnote> jus checking if anything running
[06:04] <mrebola> hello i need help , somebody speak spanish?? halguien habla espaol?
[06:05] <hendaus> anyhelper free!!
[06:05] <firecrotch> I have a laptop with a touch pad.  How do I disable tapping the touchpad to click?
[06:05] <sheriffff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10440/plain/
[06:05] <sheriffff> take that!!!
[06:05] <sheriffff> cpk, deathnote ..
[06:06] <hendaus> why noone answering me if i need from any helper to help me
[06:06] <cpk1> sheriffff: I dont think 192.168.2.0 is a valid class C address... change it to 192.168.2.1
[06:06] <deathnote> could u paste your ifconfig ?
[06:06] <firecrotch> !ask | hendaus
[06:06] <ubotu> hendaus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:07] <sheriffff> no
[06:07] <hendaus> firecrotch,  how can i burn a vcd from .DAT
[06:07] <sheriffff> eth0 is
[06:07] <sheriffff> 192.168.2.1 !
[06:07] <sheriffff> 192.168.2.0 is the "network" address
[06:07] <deathnote> yup
[06:08] <deathnote> could u paste your ifconfig and /etc/network/interface ?
[06:08] <firecrotch> hendaus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377736
[06:08] <cpk1> sheriffff: I still think purging guidedog would be the easiest thing to do since you just need it to MASQUERADE. unless there is some special reason you want to keep guidedog
[06:09] <sheriffff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10441/
[06:09] <sheriffff> because is an easy way to activate and deactivate masquerade ...
[06:10] <sheriffff> it isn't doing filter
[06:10] <hendaus> firecrotch,  used vcdgear to convert the DAT to MPEG-1 , ok how can i find this program
[06:10] <hendaus> ?
[06:11] <deathnote> looks gd.. maybe its ur other machine
[06:11] <cpk1> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE is all you need to do to turn on MASQUERADE
[06:11] <Prosilence> hi
[06:11] <sheriffff> if I restart network ????
[06:11] <sheriffff> after all I touched ...
[06:11] <Prosilence> hi cpk1
[06:11] <Prosilence> hi cpk1
[06:12] <Prosilence> are u hearing me
[06:12] <Prosilence> hi sheriffff
[06:12] <sheriffff> hii
[06:12] <Prosilence> are u hearing me
[06:12] <deathnote> yes
[06:12] <firecrotch> hendaus: Google?
[06:12] <Prosilence> are u all linux users
[06:13] <firecrotch> Prosilence: Yep :)
[06:13] <hendaus> firecrotch,  i am newbie friend,can u please give me the installing site
[06:13] <Prosilence> oh firecrotch
[06:14] <Prosilence> firecrotch: which os do you prefer in linux
[06:14] <firecrotch> hendaus: http://www.vcdgear.com/download.html appears to be the program that you're looking for.  I don't think it's in the APT repositories.
[06:14] <firecrotch> Prosilence: I think you'll find that everyone here prefers Kubuntu :)
[06:15] <Prosilence> firecrotch: yep
[06:15] <Prosilence> firecrotch: where r u from
[06:15] <firecrotch> Prosilence: Milwaukee, WI
[06:15] <firecrotch> !offtopic | Prosilence
[06:15] <ubotu> Prosilence: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:16] <hendaus> firecrotch,  there are manys pick me which one is for kubuntu linuxplease
[06:17] <hendaus> firecrotch,  i need it coz i am at my friends house and need to help her
[06:17] <cpk1> and we cant let him look the fool in front of a girl
[06:17] <firecrotch> hendaus: Do you know how to compile programs from their source code?
[06:18] <hendaus> not really coz i am new,and i am helping her,can u help me pleae
[06:18] <_redondos> I m sherifffff
[06:18] <hendaus> please
[06:19] <firecrotch> hendaus: http://www.vcdgear.com/files/vcdgear176-040415_linux.tar.gz is the one you'll need to download.
[06:20] <_redondos> bye
[06:20] <PhiloNinja> what is he trying to do?
[06:20] <firecrotch> PhiloNinja:  Burn a VCD from a .DAT file
[06:20] <hendaus> firecrotch,  ok it opens with Ark,now what can i do
[06:20] <firecrotch> !compile | hendaus
[06:20] <ubotu> hendaus: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:22] <hendaus> firecrotch,  please tell me what can i do,coz i am too late at my friends house,
[06:22] <PhiloNinja> hah, I'm reading this help file for getting started with Linux (because I am)
[06:22] <PhiloNinja> But it gets specific enough to mention that it's pronounced
[06:23] <PhiloNinja> "lee-nucks"
[06:24] <firecrotch> hendaus: I'm not familiar with doing what you're trying to do, I'm just relaying information I've found on the topic, really
[06:25] <hendaus> tar -zvxf file.tar.gz i type this on konsole but i want to tell me if its right or not
[06:26] <firecrotch> hendaus: you have to change file.tar.gz to the name of the file
[06:28] <firecrotch> PhiloNinja: That's how Linus pronounces it, but I'm American, and pretty much everyone I know here pronounces it "Lin-ucks"
[06:29] <ubuntu> hello
[06:29] <firecrotch> hello, rohanrhu
[06:29] <pirothezero> whats the feisty channel??
[06:29] <firecrotch> pirothezero:  #ubuntu+1
[06:29] <james_> firecrotch: Yeah I pronounce it that way too. I was just laughing that they'd get specific enough to tell you how to pronounce it at all
[06:30] <hendaus> firecrotch,  where is the directory where the file .tarz download?
[06:31] <firecrotch> hendaus: Wherever you downloaded it to :)   "locate filename" will tell you where it is (replace filename with the name of the file!)
[06:35] <hendaus> firecrotch,  i type this "locate vcdgear176-040415_linux.tar.gz" and it says cannot find
[06:37] <nonuda_> how to install pcmcia modem? scanModem can't detect it..windows said its a fax modem pcmcia card
[06:37] <SolidSource> hendaus: did you download it yet?
[06:38] <hendaus> solid i only open the site that firecrotch  gave me and it opens with Ark
[06:38] <SolidSource> hendaus: right click >> "save link as"
[06:38] <hendaus> ok
[06:40] <hendaus> SolidSource, http://www.vcdgear.com/files/vcdgear176-040415_linux.tar.gz click here and see if it open with Ark?
[06:40] <orient2000> Hi! I just wanted to evrybody to know that Xilisoft DVD Ripper Platinum 4 for windows is working very good in Kubuntu. serial 11861196121612261006461C-35C3-8CDB-4B7E
[06:40] <SolidSource> hendaus: lol ok....thats why
[06:40] <SolidSource> hendaus: go here http://vcdgear.com/download.html
[06:40] <deathnote> z
[06:41] <hendaus> SolidSource,  ok
[06:41] <hendaus> yes thank you
[06:41] <hendaus> now how can i install it
[06:43] <SolidSource> hendaus: it doesn't install
[06:43] <hendaus> SolidSource,  after i click save link as,what can i do
[06:43] <T3hWiz0rd> troxor: go to sleep...
[06:43] <SolidSource> hendaus: its stand alone that you run in konsole....
[06:43] <SolidSource> hendaus: you save it where ever you want
[06:44] <hendaus> yes
[06:44] <hendaus> i type this on konsole -> tar -zvxf vcdgear176-040415_linux.tar.gz
[06:44] <hendaus> then what can i do
[06:44] <SolidSource> hendaus: type "cd vcdgear"
[06:45] <hendaus> ok then
[06:45] <SolidSource> hendaus: then type "./vcdgear" and theres the program
[06:45] <hendaus> ok thanx
[06:46] <hendaus> SolidSource,  how can i open this vcdgear
[06:46] <hendaus> SolidSource,  coz i need to convert file.DAT to file.MPEG1
[06:47] <SolidSource> hendaus: there is no GUI.... "./vcdgear" runs the program then it gives you what you need to do
[06:47] <SolidSource> hendaus: I never used vcdgear
[06:48] <hendaus> SolidSource,  can u please help me tell me how to convert from .dat to mpeg1?
[06:49] <hendaus> SolidSource,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10443/
[06:50] <SolidSource> hendaus: ok, thats correct and it tells you how to use it....pay attention to what the USAGE line says
[06:51] <SolidSource> hendaus: example of a command to convert ABC.dat to EFG.vcd.....
[06:51] <hendaus> SolidSource,  yes
[06:52] <Prosilence> hi
[06:52] <SolidSource> hendaus: "vcdgear -dat2mpg ABC.dat EFG.mpg"
[06:54] <hendaus> SolidSource,  i type this -> cdgear -dat2mpg /home/hendaus/AVSEQ01.dat mell.mpg
[06:54] <hendaus> and it gives -> bash: vcdgear: command not found
[06:56] <SolidSource> hendaus: the DAT file needs to be in the vcd folder I guess...I don't know...don't have any files I can convert
[06:57] <firecrotch> hendaus: try ./vcdgear -dat2mpg ABC.dat EFG.mpg
[06:57] <hendaus> SolidSource,  no wait my root in -> hendaus@ubuntu:~/vcdgear$
[06:57] <hendaus> the .dat file is on /home/hendaus
[06:58] <om3ga> i have a question
[06:58] <firecrotch> !ask | om3ga
[06:58] <ubotu> om3ga: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:58] <om3ga> i cant connect to wpa2 what packages do i need
[06:58] <hendaus> SolidSource,  it is working now :) thanx
[06:59] <firecrotch> om3ga: I think you need wpasupplicant
[06:59] <miltos> hi ppl:-] 
[06:59] <om3ga> i think i have it but still wont let me connect
[06:59] <james_> how do I set myself up so I have root priveldges (administrator) so I can install programs and etc.
[07:00] <firecrotch> om3ga:  try using knetworkmanager instead of the default program, I find that it works a lot better
[07:00] <firecrotch> !sudo | james_
[07:00] <ubotu> james_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:00] <om3ga> ok i know the default one i have never been able to use it to connect just to veiw connections
[07:01] <james_> when I try to run Add/Remove Programs it prompts me for a password and my userpass doesn't work
[07:01] <miltos> i missed the speaker icon on the taskbar,,,,how do i restore it?
[07:02] <om3ga> can i make a live copy of my kubuntu
[07:02] <firecrotch> james_: did you enable the root account, by chance?
[07:02] <miltos> james_the password is the one you set during installation
[07:02] <james_> probably not, yeah that password doesn't work
[07:04] <om3ga> the reason i ask is b/c im in iraq and wont have internet and if somthing happens and i need to reinstall i wont have the packages i have now
[07:06] <SolidSource> om3ga: you could download the live CD (but in your case I would say do the live DVD)
[07:06] <james_> I literally just installed Kubuntu, and its my first attempt at linux
[07:06] <firecrotch> james_:  try resetting your password
[07:06] <james_> ...
[07:06] <miltos> james_the password is the one you set during installation
[07:06] <miltos> i missed the speaker icon on the taskbar,,,,how do i restore it?
[07:06] <firecrotch> james_: in Konsole, type passwd
[07:06] <firecrotch> it will prompt for your current password, and then the new one
[07:06] <james_> Yeah, did that changed password, I'm still getting the error that Conversion with the su failed
[07:08] <Jucato> james_: try this command: sudo echo hello
[07:08] <Contrast> What's up, everyone?
[07:08] <Jucato> james_: that should give you hello at the end if there's nothing wrong
[07:08] <firecrotch> james_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116514
[07:08] <james_> yeah it echoed
[07:09] <Contrast> I'm hoping someone here can help me with a problem I'm having with the nVidia prop. driver...
[07:09] <Jucato> james_: no error messages at all?
[07:09] <firecrotch> james_: I'm guessing you installed Dapper?
[07:10] <james_> I installed v6.10 (Edgy Eft?) off of a live cd
[07:11] <james_> got it from my boss
[07:11] <firecrotch> james_: in Konsole -  cat /etc/sudoers
[07:12] <firecrotch> you should see your username in there somewhere
[07:12] <Jucato> firecrotch: strange that "sudo echo hello" worked for him
[07:12] <Jucato> james_: when you did "sudo echo hello", did it ask for your password?
[07:12] <firecrotch> Jucato: If it's the issue is what I think it is (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116514) then sudo will still work
[07:12] <james_> yeah, and it worked (this was after I changed my password
[07:13] <firecrotch> Jucato:  Just kdesu won't
[07:13] <Contrast> On a fresh install, I updated my system, rebooted, then installed nvidia-glx, logged out and into a TTY session, ran "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable," logged back in and selected the prop. driver in System Settings, rebooted again, and now KDE won't start.
[07:13] <Jucato> hm.... strange
[07:13] <Jucato> Contrast: did you install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel?
[07:14] <Jucato> if you're on edgy, that would be linux-restricted-modules-generic
[07:14] <Contrast> Yeah, it automatically installed with nvidia-glx.
[07:14] <Jucato> no, not the linux-restricted-modules-common
[07:14] <james_> cat /etc/sudoers didn't work. Permission denied
[07:15] <james_> on the bright side, AddRemove Programs no longer gives me an error...it just processes and does nothing
[07:15] <Contrast> Oh... I'm booting up now. I'll try that.
[07:15] <firecrotch> james_:  sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[07:15] <Contrast> Just "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic"?
[07:15] <firecrotch> forgot that it's only readable by root
[07:16] <james_> yeah that worked, and I got Add/Remove to work too.
[07:17] <james_> After I switched my pass I went into System Settings and Users then switched into Administration mode and added Root priviledges to my account. Then stuff started to work
[07:17] <Contrast> Jucato: It's installing now. I'm guessing I need to reboot once it's done?
[07:18] <firecrotch> james_: good job :)
[07:18] <Jucato> Contrast: hmm yes
[07:18] <james_> thanks for the help
[07:18] <james_> I can tell this is going to take some getting used to
[07:19] <Contrast> Just starting with Linux, james?
[07:19] <james_> yeah
[07:19] <Contrast> Jucato: You're the man. That got it. :-D
[07:19] <Contrast> Thanks a lot.
[07:19] <james_> I've done some reading on how it works in theory...but actuality is different from theory
[07:19] <Jucato> np
[07:20] <Contrast> It's frustrating at first, but after a while, you'll never look back [at Windows] .
[07:20] <james_> I bought a laptop for college which has to run XP, so I figured it'd take the chance to install Linux on my  home desktop
[07:20] <james_> its fun and exciting
[07:20] <Contrast> Have you tried Beryl yet?
[07:21] <james_> I work in IT at my college and my boss gave me a Kubuntu live CD so I was like, what the heck, I've been meaning to try linux for a while...
[07:22] <Contrast> james_: Have you tried Beryl yet?
[07:22] <Tido> what are some noticeable differences between edgy and upcoming fiesty?
[07:23] <james_> Contrast: No, whats that, sounds familiar
[07:24] <Contrast> http://www.beryl-project.org
[07:24] <nonuda__> how to install nvidia driver correctly..so i can install beryl?
[07:24] <Contrast> In a nutshell, it provides a 3D desktop environment, eye-candy galore, and tons of window management and accessibility features.
[07:25] <james_> sounds like fun
[07:25] <Contrast> nonuda_, are you already running the nVidia prop. driver?
[07:25] <nonuda__> nvida prop?
[07:25] <Contrast> proprietary
[07:25] <Jucato> !beryl
[07:25] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:26] <Contrast> Go to System Settings -> Display -> Administrator Mode -> Hardware -> Video Card
[07:26] <nonuda__> i dunno know..how to check it?
[07:26] <nonuda__> oh ok..
[07:27] <Contrast> nonuda, have you already installed nvidia-glx?
[07:27] <nonuda__> graphic card = NVIDIA Geforce 4 (generic)
[07:28] <Contrast> nonuda: Go to your package manager and install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules-generic...
[07:29] <Contrast> nonuda: Then open a terminal and run nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:29] <Jucato> "lspci | grep -i vga" might give a more accurate description of your video card
[07:30] <nonuda__> for nvidia-glx status is installed..
[07:31] <nonuda__> ok..i have enable it..then?
[07:32] <Jucato> nonuda__: try this command: glxinfo | grep render
[07:32] <Jucato> if you see "direct rendering: yes" then you're ok
[07:34] <nonuda__> it said : xlib extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[07:35] <nonuda__> error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[07:35] <Jucato> nonuda__: that was the output of the command "glxinfo | grep render"?
[07:35] <nonuda__> yup
[07:35] <Jucato> !nvidia | nonuda__
[07:35] <ubotu> nonuda__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:36] <Contrast> nonuda: did you already run nvidia-glx-config enable from Konsole?
[07:37] <nonuda__> yes
[07:37] <nonuda__> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:38] <Contrast> and it says it couldn't find RGB GLX visual?
[07:38] <nonuda__> yes..
[07:39] <nonuda__> in nvidia-glx details i saw some conflict file
[07:39] <james_> if I want to try setting up this Beryl thing what do I do?
[07:40] <Jucato> !beryl | james_
[07:40] <Contrast> nonuda:, one sec.
[07:40] <ubotu> james_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:40] <Contrast> james_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[07:40] <james_> thanks
[07:40] <nonuda__> conflict : nvidiaglx-src, conflict nvidia-setting, conflict nvidia-xconfig
[07:41] <Contrast> nonuda: Try running sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[07:41] <nonuda__> and....replaces: nvidia-glx-src
[07:41] <Jucato> nonuda__: did you install nvidia-glx already?
[07:41] <nonuda__> yes..
[07:42] <nonuda__> but i saw some conflict in the details of nvidia-glx packages
[07:43] <Jucato> don't mind those
[07:43] <nonuda__> ah..ok
[07:43] <Jucato> it just means that nvidia-glx and those packages under Conflicts: can't be installed at the same time
[07:43] <james_> How do I know which of these installs to go with
[07:43] <Contrast> james_:, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[07:44] <james_> honestly I forget
[07:44] <nonuda__> oh i see..then how to solve my problem?
[07:44] <nonuda__> !pastebin
[07:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:45] <Jucato> nonuda__: have you installed the linux-restricted-modules version that matches your kernel version?
[07:45] <Contrast> james_:, run lspci | grep -i vga from a terminal.
[07:45] <nonuda__> yes
[07:46] <Jucato> nonuda__: then, after running nvidiag-glx-config enable, did you restart the X server?
[07:46] <nonuda__> nop..
[07:46] <james_> nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 420]  (rev a3)
[07:47] <nonuda__> should I ?
[07:47] <Contrast> nonuda_:, yes.
[07:47] <Jucato> yes
[07:47] <nonuda__> ok try it now..
[07:47] <Contrast> Anytime you make any changes to the way your video card works, you have to restart the X server for them to take effect.
[07:48] <nonuda__> can i do it with the console?
[07:48] <Jucato> nonuda__: you have to logout, then choose Restart X Server from the login menu
[07:48] <Contrast> james_:, I'd try going with the nVidia install.
[07:48] <james_> ok thats what I thought
[07:48] <nonuda__> oh ok..i told theres another way..ok i'm out..
[07:48] <Jucato> nonuda__: there is
[07:49] <Jucato> but... it's very much like hitting the reset button
[07:49] <Contrast> If that works out alright, you can try installing the SVN snapshots if you're willing to sacrifice a little bit of stability for a lot of extra features.
[07:49] <Jucato> and you might not want to do that
[07:49] <Contrast> Jucato, are you referring to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace?
[07:49] <Jucato> yes
[07:49] <james_> I think I'm gonna sign out for the night, let stuff update overnight. I've got substantial updates to run, so . Night all.
[07:49] <Contrast> I take it that's bad for your system?
[07:50] <james_> Thanks for your help
[07:50] <Contrast> Good luck, james_.
[07:50] <Jucato> only if you don't have any docs/files opened that you don't want to possibly lose
[07:50] <Contrast> Aside from that, no harm whatsoever?
[07:50] <Jucato> it's ok actually, it's just that Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't start the proper end session processes
[07:51] <Jucato> yeah no hardware harm or filesystem harm
[07:51] <Contrast> I see.
[07:51] <Contrast> Do you know how to ssh into a remote system on a network to restart its X server (e.g., when Ctrl+Alt+F1/Backspace has no effect)?
[07:52] <Jucato> "sudo /etc/init.d/kmd restart" I guess
[07:53] <Contrast> Right, but I mean how would I send that command to my desktop from my laptop?
[07:53] <Contrast> If my desktop is completely unresponsive.
[07:53] <Jucato> er... dunno.. don't know SSH stuff
[07:54] <Contrast> K. Thanks anyway.
[07:55] <Contrast> Well, I'm out. Thanks again for the help, Jucato. I was getting really frustrated... I always see you in here helping people out-- You should be getting paid for this. :-P
[07:55] <Jucato> lol :)
[07:55] <Contrast> Peace
[07:55] <Jucato> yeah I wish :D
[07:55] <Jucato> j/k
[07:55] <Jucato> bye
[07:55] <kristjan_> how do I mount iso on the harddrive so that I can boot into it (in other words install feisty fawn from disk rather than burn cd)
[07:56] <nonuda_> still the same..
[07:56] <nonuda_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10444/ this the result when i run glxinfo
[07:57] <SolidSource> kristjan_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning
[07:57] <_spaz> gah O_o
[07:58] <_spaz> i have horrible problems with apt-get
[07:58] <Skuller> for a change try sudo apt-get moo
[07:58] <_spaz> h/o, i'll show you what i mean
[07:58] <_spaz> been there, done that >_>
[07:58] <Jucato> !pastebin
[07:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:58] <Skuller> oh..lol...cool...i recently found it out
[07:59] <_spaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10446/
[07:59] <_spaz> i knew already -_-
[08:00] <kristjan_> SolidSource: this is not unmounted then I boot
[08:00] <kristjan_> SolidSource: forgot "?" mark
[08:00] <Jucato> _spaz: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo apt-get -f install" don't work?
[08:01] <_spaz> hmm...
[08:01] <_spaz> lemme try
[08:01] <_spaz> last one didn't work
[08:01] <_spaz> >_>
[08:02] <Jucato> so.. neither worked?
[08:02] <nonuda_> jucato?
[08:03] <Jucato> that question was for _spaz
[08:03] <_spaz> the first one i haven't tried
[08:03] <Skuller> i want to try !ops
[08:03] <_spaz> tried it now
[08:03] <_spaz> some installed
[08:03] <_spaz> er, uninstalled
[08:03] <nonuda_> yup..how to solve my problem?
[08:03] <_spaz> but others threw errors
[08:08] <_spaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10447/
[08:09] <Jucato> _spaz: sudo apt-get -f install (not upgrade)
[08:09] <_spaz> mmk
[08:09] <Jucato> but you san also try what the error message is suggsting: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgnomevfs2-common
[08:10] <_spaz> alright
[08:11] <nacht__> any info on opengl and a ati radeon 9200 card
[08:12] <SolidSource> !ati > nacht__
[08:12] <nacht__> i have read page after page
[08:12] <nacht__> nothing seems to work
[08:12] <cpk1> buy an nvidia card =P
[08:12] <nacht__> but the weird thing is is that it worked yesterday
[08:13] <nacht__> it worked yesterday
[08:13] <nacht__> something happened and changed my monitor and the driver i was using
[08:14] <nacht__> !ati
[08:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:14] <_spaz> gah O_o
[08:15] <_spaz> not working...
[08:15] <_spaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10448/
[08:16] <Skuller> if nothing works out there are always low end cheap nvidia cards around......6200, 7300?
[08:17] <nonuda> jucato, i still can't install nvidia driver correcly
[08:18] <Jucato> nonuda: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:18] <Jucato> _spaz: how about the reinstall command that I gave?
[08:18] <_spaz> tried that too
[08:18] <_spaz> >_>
[08:18] <Jucato> nothing?
[08:18] <_spaz> don't remember...
[08:19] <miltos> i've got 2 audio devices on my computer how do i disable one of them in kubuntu?
[08:19] <_spaz> there was something...
[08:19] <Jucato> _spaz: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgnomevfs2-common
[08:19] <_spaz> ty :D
[08:19] <nonuda> jucato, (uname -r) ??
[08:20] <_spaz> i'm getting stuck in a loop it seems...
[08:20] <_spaz> first i do the reinstall command
[08:20] <_spaz> says do dpkg --conf....
[08:20] <_spaz> then i try again
[08:20] <_spaz> says to do apt-get -f install
[08:20] <_spaz> do that
[08:20] <_spaz> and try again
[08:21] <_spaz> back to dpkg
[08:21] <_spaz> >_>
[08:21] <seven11> how can it be that i can choose in monitor and display manager nvidia geforce card but only nv as a driver
[08:21] <ryutaza_> Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:21] <miltos> i've got 2 audio devices on my computer how do i disable one of them in kubuntu?
[08:21] <_spaz> do you have enough exclamation marks?
[08:21] <_spaz> ;p
[08:22] <Mena> Hi
[08:22] <seven11> can someone help me with nvidia driver please
[08:23] <_spaz> i'm gonna sleep on this
[08:23] <Mena> HWy Sometmes when i leave my computer working on something for long time and when i move my mouse its openeing my monitor normal but after few seconds i found that my system has been freez ..any idea
[08:23] <Mena> why*
[08:24] <Mena> i can move my mouse but i cant use it and the keyboard also wasnt working !!!
[08:27] <mahuyar> Mena, could it be hardware problems?  like if they're running too hot, those kinda issues happened to me before
[08:27] <miltos> i've got 2 audio devices on my computer how do i disable one of them in kubuntu?
[08:28] <Mena> mahuyar, ohhhh ok
[08:28] <Mena> mahuyar, Thanks :)
[08:29] <mahuyar> miltos, u mean like 1 onboard and a card?
[08:34] <suraj> hi guys, my wireless card shows "radio off" how do I make it "on" and get wireless working ? its a compaq nx6320 laptop with Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless card
[08:35] <miltos> mahuyar, i've got one on board and one on the capture card.
[08:36] <mahuyar> miltos, not sure how to do that on the desktop, but you can turn off the one onboard in the bios.
[08:37] <funpop> can someone explain me what is needed to disable GDM and use KDM instead ?
[08:39] <Jucato> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm" I think...
[08:39] <mahuyar> funpop, sudo aptitude reinstall kdm
[08:39] <funpop> will this mess up my gnome system ?
[08:39] <mahuyar> jucato's way is better
[08:39] <mahuyar> funpop, no it won't mess up your gnome
[08:39] <funpop> allright, thanks
[08:40] <seven11> someone please help me with nvidia driver for fx 5200
[08:40] <naught101> what's the best way to search for duplicate files in a directory with subdirectories?
[08:41] <kraut> moin
[08:42] <naught101> moin?
[08:43] <Alonea> hey, is there any way I can actually install from the iso? like, put it on my other hd and install from that? my dvd burner is really screwed up and wont burn any faster than .40x (its supposed to burn at 8x)
[08:44] <Alonea> I could do it when I installed vista with daemon tools. even worked fine when it had to restart all through the install.
[08:58] <kraut> http://popey.com/Ubuntu_is_sexy_alright
[09:08] <nonuda_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10444/ ,anybody know how to solve this problem rather then reinstall the nvidia-glx, coz i seen that the nvidia-glx status is installed
[09:09] <Jucato> nonuda_: what happens when you do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"?
[09:09] <Jucato> in Konsole
[09:11] <nonuda_> i still don't do it coz, currently i'm using adept manager to install another linux restricted modules..
[09:12] <nonuda_> but i will try it soon as the download finish..just curious of finding another way to fix my problem..
[09:15] <nonuda_> jucato, ok now linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic is installed, should i reboot or try sudo apt-get?
[09:15] <amaanr> i just installed kubuntu, i have a nvidia geforce go 7400...how do i install the driver?
[09:15] <Jucato> is that the current kernel version you are using? in Konsole, type "uname -r" to check
[09:16] <Jucato> nonuda_: and "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" in Konsole just to double check that you have it installed
[09:16] <Skuller> !nvidia | amaanr
[09:16] <ubotu> amaanr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:16] <nonuda_> yup
[09:16] <nonuda_> ok now i try the sudo apt-get
[09:18] <nonuda_> jucato, nvidia-glx is already the newest version
[09:19] <Jucato> nonuda_: ok. now "sudo nvidia-xconfig enable"
[09:19] <nonuda_> here is the print out.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10449/
[09:21] <Jucato> nonuda_: ok don't mind those for now. how about the "sudo nvidia-xconfig enable" command?
[09:21] <nonuda_> it said : nvidia-xconfig: invalid option: "enable", Invalid commandline, please run "nvidia-xconfig -- help.......
[09:21] <Jucato> er...
[09:21] <Jucato> wait lol sorry
[09:21] <nonuda_> ok
[09:22] <Jucato> nonuda_: just plain "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[09:23] <nonuda_> ok ..done its write new x configuration
[09:24] <Jucato> ok now, logout then once logged out, press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[09:24] <xtavaresx> why does the proprietry nvidia driver break linux-restricted-mdules-generic and is there a work around?
[09:24] <nonuda_> ok..back to you soon
[09:32] <smile> hello linux world
[09:36] <nonuda__> jucato, when i press ctrl+alt+backspace, it hang, so i reboot it by pressing ctrl+alt+del, but x wont start, when i start it manually it said : Fatal error running install command for nvidia, (EE) nvidia(0) : failed to load the nvidia kernel module
[09:36] <nonuda__> the i reconfigure the x server to get the x run
[09:37] <smile> Metissa is a new desktop Like Beryl & Compiz ... anyone can tell me how install it on ubuntu .. (it's for Mandriva now) ?????????????
[09:38] <funpop> oh yes we need a third unstable compositor
[09:39] <nonuda__> jucato?
[09:40] <smile> did anyone installed Metissa on ubuntu ?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:44] <smile> http://www.flickr.com/photos/phisite/369833033/  ....... and see what is metissa .. but how to get it on ubuntu ??!!
[09:53] <nonuda_> jucato, r u still there?
[09:58] <sandro__> hi all i just installed kubuntu 6.1 and i need firefox2 ..i googled and tbh .. i found 5 different howots .. some dealing with a .sh script i need, some want me do add repos, some want me to use "swift"fox or whatever .. is there a "(k)ubuntu 6.1 resource" i could consult ?!
[10:00] <chuen> Hi. Can anyone give me any pointers / links regarding installing and managing fonts please?
[10:08] <pollyo> Hello
[10:08] <pollyo> What is the method one uses to install a deb package on kubuntu?
[10:09] <sandro__> try apt-get, synaptic or even sth like adept in kde
[10:10] <pollyo> I have the file in /tmp
[10:10] <pollyo> can you use dpkg or something like that?
[10:16] <funpop> 123 kopete test
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> pollyo: use dpkg -i
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> if you already have the deb
[10:17] <pollyo> c0nv1ct: Do I need to do any type of test to determine if the package will run on my system?
[10:18] <pollyo> or any type of configuration or does -i cover all that?
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> it will tell you if it fails
[10:19] <Bluzman> IDENTIFY fragile55
[10:19] <Bluzman> IDENTIFY fragile
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> lol
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> thanks for lettn us know your password :P
[10:20] <paco_> lol
[10:22] <VSpike> I'm trying to connect to a pptp vpn with KVpnc... having trouble, in that it just times out and won't connect.
[10:23] <VSpike> I get a message in the debug log from pppd 'debug: No IP for default interface found, using "127.0.0.1".'
[10:23] <VSpike> That looks significant :)
[10:23] <VSpike> Google doesn't really help ... can anyone help out?
[10:26] <pollyo> I just started to use Linux and got Kubuntu working on my system.  I'm happy with it so far.  I was just reading something about how ubuntu is designed around gnome.
[10:26] <c0nv1ct> Ubuntu is, but Kubuntu is the KDE version
[10:26] <pollyo> The article seems to believe this has a negative impact on the system.
[10:26] <pollyo> c0nv1ct: Yes.
[10:26] <mlankhorst> I'm trying to figure out why usb disks in kubuntu are mnounted sync, but i can't find out how it's even being mounted by kde
[10:27] <Skuller> what has a negative impact?
[10:27] <pollyo> Skuller: They were discussing how some of the base packages are not the best to match with a kde system.  Again, I do not know much about it and I am happy so far with kubuntu.
[10:27] <pollyo> I was just a little curious about it.
[10:28] <Skuller> base packages like which ones?
[10:28] <pollyo> Skiller: Let me see if I can find the article again.
[10:28] <Skuller> sure..thanks
[10:29] <mlankhorst> sigh, i suppose no1 knows how kde performs its hal magic
[10:29] <VSpike> mlankhorst: I've asked a few times around the place and never got an answer
[10:30] <c0nv1ct> i know how gnome does it, but not kndeo mlankhorst
[10:30] <c0nv1ct> kndeo = kde, how the hell
[10:30] <mlankhorst> getting annoying, sync option is destroying my flash
[10:30] <pollyo> KDE to Become Better Supported on the Ubuntu Platform
[10:31] <pollyo> Skuller: Let me get the link for you.
[10:31] <pollyo> Skuller: http://dot.kde.org/1147097810/
[10:31] <Skuller> pollyo: thanks...i will go through it
[10:32] <VSpike> mlankhorst: that's pretty odd because I'm sure on mine they are not mounted sync
[10:32] <c0nv1ct> thats a pretty old article pollyo
[10:33] <pollyo> Are they coming out with a new version of KDE soon?  I was reading something that said feisty may come out with kde 4
[10:33] <c0nv1ct> kde4 wont be ready by the time feisty comes it, i dont believe
[10:33] <c0nv1ct> feisty is being released in like a month or so
[10:33] <rahab> hi there
[10:33] <c0nv1ct> afaik, kde4 is looking more like 3rd quarter 07
[10:34] <pollyo> I have to say I am impressed with Linux overall..
[10:35] <c0nv1ct> Linux has come a long way, i'm amazed of how user friendly it has become
[10:35] <VSpike> c0nv1ct: definitely
[10:35] <c0nv1ct> i remember trying to install redhat back in 96/97
[10:35] <pollyo> I was worried that I would not be able to everything that I do on windows.
[10:35] <mlankhorst> either way, it seems to be impossible to find out how its mounted
[10:36] <VSpike> c0nv1ct: when i first tried it, it was almost deliberately unfriendly as a philosophy
[10:36] <pollyo> Now I'm doing more and running windows programs in wine.
[10:36] <rahab> does anyone know how to import the pgp/gpg key belonging to a signature which is unknown wo my kmail
[10:36] <rahab> wo=to
[10:36] <pollyo> VSpike: That is what I remember from the late 90's.
[10:37] <c0nv1ct> rahab: do you have the name of the key? or the email address its registered to?
[10:37] <VSpike> I think it was 96 when i first tried.  Installed Debian on a spare 486 machine. Took me about a month to get X running :)
[10:37] <c0nv1ct> rahab: you can search for the public key on the key servers
[10:37] <Skuller> pollyo: i read the article...quite vague to me though since i dont understand much of it.....something about Koffice not being the best option for KDE? in comparision to GNOME's Openoffice.org
[10:38] <c0nv1ct> yeah, Koffice isnt nearly as nice as OOo
[10:38] <Skuller> VSpike: lol....now thats what i call a pain in the 'X'
 i have the key id, yes. and of course the mail from adress.
[10:39] <VSpike> Skuller: heh yeah.  Damn I was proud of myself when it finally came up though :)
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> rahab: if that is the email address its registered to, search the key servers for the public key
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> rahab: try search.keyserver.net
[10:39] <Skuller> VSpike: i am sure you had every reason to...i mean getting something to work after a month of constant hard work on it is something...
 isnt there some kind of convenient integration for kmail to import keys directly from there?
[10:40] <c0nv1ct> rahab: not that i know of, usually the sender attaches his public key
[10:40] <VSpike> The other problem was it ran worse than Win95 on that machine, whereas now KDE runs better than XP on my hardware
[10:40] <Skuller> why dont they all just integrate KDE n GNOME and get it settled with
[10:40] <c0nv1ct> rahab: thats the proper way to initiate encrypted communication
 yeah, but with signatures usually not
[10:41] <c0nv1ct> rahab: ah, its just a sig eh?
[10:41] <Skuller> VSpike: ohh...i wudnt know about that but yea i can vouch for KDE runnin sweeter than xp for sure
 yep
[10:42] <c0nv1ct> rahab: i'm not sure then, youd think signatures would be automatically authenticated
 id like to see some feature like: rightklick on the mail and say "trust this key id" or something :-)
[10:44] <c0nv1ct> rahab: do you have Kgpg installed?
[10:44] <mlankhorst> argh lol\
[10:44] <mlankhorst> last place I'd look for it
[10:44] <c0nv1ct> rahab: also, there are some other things needed to get gpg working right in kmail, i'll find the link
[10:44] <VSpike> mlankhorst: where was it?
[10:44] <mlankhorst> right mouse clicking on the usb stick, and removing 'synchronous' option in mount
[10:45] <mlankhorst> at properties
[10:45] <mlankhorst> lol
[10:45] <VSpike> lol
[10:45] <VSpike> Does that persist or do you have to do it every time
[10:45] <mlankhorst> after going through most of the kdebase source code
[10:45] <praetor_> speaking about kmail, has anyone recently compiled it out of svn ?
[10:45] <VSpike> And does it only apply to that volume id or to any usb sticK?
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> rahab: http://zerlinna.blogweb.de/archives/61-Get-GPG-Decryption-working-within-Kmail.html
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> rahab: see if that helps
[10:46] <mlankhorst> it seems to be saved after i took it out
[10:46] <c0nv1ct> rahab: i had every encrypted email fail untill i installed that stuff
[10:46] <VSpike> mlankhorst: sweet
 yeah, i have kpgp installed and encryption working. thats fine. im just not sure how to deal with untrusted sigs, i want to trust :)
[10:46] <mlankhorst> downloaded all source code for nothing then lol
 ok thanks! Ill have a look...
[10:48] <VSpike> Every time I run adept updater, it tries to tempt me with an upgrade to 7.04 snapshot
[10:48] <c0nv1ct> rahab: the agent was my problem, it may help with encrypted sigs too
[10:48] <VSpike> get thee behind me, satan
[10:48] <Lynoure> How can I get Amarok lyric scripts that do not regularly exit with an error?
[10:48] <VSpike> shiny new stuff vs. stable system
[10:48] <VSpike> hmmm
[10:49] <VSpike> my name's john, and i'm a compulsive updater
 thats all fine. encrypting, signing and decrypting works smoothly
[10:51] <Skuller> is there any way to auto get lyrics for songs playing in amarok?...or is there any software out there which can get lyrcis for me rather than me searchin the sites?
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> rahab: then its possible that senders need to include their public key in their first email, even with sigs
[10:51] <Lynoure> VSpike: feisty is mostly already quite fine (IMO only, not a recommendation)
[10:51] <pollyo> Anyone know what a .bin file is for?
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> rahab: you basically just need a way to quickly import their key
[10:51] <Lynoure> Skuller: there are scripts but they all error on me.
[10:51] <Skuller> pollyo: bin n cue files are cd/dvd image files
[10:52] <Skuller> Lynoure: :-(
[10:52] <Lynoure> Skuller: you could give them a try, though
[10:52] <Skuller> Lynoure: would love to
[10:52] <pollyo> Skuller: I downloaded Google earth and it was a bin file.
[10:52] <Lynoure> Skuller: Tools->ScriptManager->Lyrics
[10:52] <c0nv1ct> rahab: KGpg has a search feature, that may be the quickest way
[10:52] <VSpike> Lynoure: I'm sure you're right.. this is a work machine though, so I can't really risk it.  I guess I could install it on my spare bits n pieces box though, which is running dapper atm
[10:52] <Skuller> pollyo: no idea then...sorry
[10:53] <VSpike> pollyo: it's a binary installation
 yepp, thats it. would be nice if kmail could interface kgpg to search for a key with just one klick
[10:53] <pollyo> Skuller: Thanks for the attempt.
[10:53] <Lynoure> Skuller: if they error on you too, please tell me, so I can look into whether a bug should be reported.
[10:53] <pollyo> VSpike: Any idea what I do with the file to install it on Kubuntu?
[10:53] <VSpike> pollyo: you do "sudo sh GoogleEarthInstaller.bin" or whatever
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> rahab: there may be a way, we just havent found it :)
[10:53] <pollyo> VSpike: Thanks.
[10:53] <VSpike> pollyo: I think.. if that doesn't work..
 thats what im thinking right now :)
[10:54] <Lynoure> VSpike: This is my only workstation computer. :) But you could ease your itch by playing with the livecd :)
[10:54] <VSpike> pollyo: try "chmod 755 GoogleEarthInstaller.bin && sudo ./GoogleEarthInstaller.bin"
[10:54] <VSpike> Lynoure: True :)
 damn. kgpg always starts as tray-icon :( not so nice when u use enlightenment. no tray ... :)
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> rahab: have you looked into the contact options for the sender?
[10:55] <Phoenix1701> So I just did a dist-upgrade to Edgy and I'm getting unmet dependencies trying to install kubuntu-desktop...  help?!
[10:55] <Skuller> Lynoure: woot...it works....*dances around in excitement but suddenly remembers he has to finish his school HW so settles down*....sorry to know it doesnt work on yours
[10:56] <mlankhorst> err, install kubuntu-desktop first, then upgrade to edgy
[10:56] <mlankhorst> !upgrade
[10:56] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
 dont know what exactly you mean...?
[10:56] <Lynoure> Skuller: do not dance yet... mine worked at first, occasionally. What version of kubuntu are you on?
[10:56] <Phoenix1701> mlankhorst: I was reading this:
[10:56] <Phoenix1701> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[10:56] <Phoenix1701> Where it says "Upgrading from 6.06 LTS"
[10:56] <Phoenix1701> I followed those instructions precisely.
[10:56] <Skuller> Lynoure: ohh...damn..hope it doesnt fail later on...am on edgy
[10:56] <mlankhorst> wiki page works better lol
[10:56] <c0nv1ct> rahab: you can edit your contacts, and set default encryption keys, but i dont see anything about accepting keys
[10:57] <Phoenix1701> mlankhorst: Fair to say, but here I am...  I don't think there's a dist-downgrade, so...
[10:57] <pollyo> Any idea what the /opt directory is generally used for?
[10:57] <mlankhorst> just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then..
[10:57] <Phoenix1701> mlankhorst: That's exactly what's failing.
[10:57] <Phoenix1701> "kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed"
[10:57] <tino_> #list
[10:57] <mlankhorst> what about installing ubuntu-minimal first?
 that wouldnt make much sense to me, since i dont want to add a contact for every sender using a sig
[10:58] <Phoenix1701> mlankhorst: I'll give that a shot.
[10:58] <VSpike> pollyo: see if this helps: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[10:58] <Phoenix1701> Incidentally, why doesn't Kubuntu have an upgrade manager? :)
 but importing the key worked. now i just have to mark it trustworthy
[10:59] <Phoenix1701> mlankhorst: No joy.
[10:59] <Lynoure> Skuller: I hope so too. I'm trying getting rid of all scripts&their data, in hopes of that helping
[10:59] <Phoenix1701> It's saying that it depends on hwdb-client-kde, language-selector-qt, and xorg, but none of them are going to be installed.
[10:59] <c0nv1ct> rahab: i figure, if they are worth being set as 'trusted' they are worth being set as a 'contact' :)
[10:59] <mlankhorst> you can use gnome's
[10:59] <mlankhorst> ;p
[10:59] <waylandbill> upgrade manager? i would think that if everything was ideal, dist-upgrade would be the only thing needed.
[10:59] <Skuller> Lynoure: hmm...which other scripts did you try that dint work?
[11:00] <Phoenix1701> waylandbill: Judging from the current state of my dist-upgrade, everything is far from ideal. :/
[11:00] <Phoenix1701> I don't dare reboot; I'm pretty sure my system will be completely hosed if I do.
[11:00] <mlankhorst> well, upgrade manager does it for you lol
[11:00] <waylandbill> yeah. well, that's called ideal situations only exist in theory.
[11:01] <Phoenix1701> The only place where this wiki page differs from what I did, by the way, is that I didn't pass a -u flag in  the dist-upgrade.
[11:01] <Phoenix1701> Everything else describes exactly what I did.
[11:02] <Lynoure> Skuller: pretty much all the lyric script, all others work fine
[11:02] <Phoenix1701> If there's any information I can provide that would help you figure out what's going on, just let me know...  but I really would hate to have to wipe the drive or something because of this!
[11:02] <pollyo> Ok now that I unstalled google earth I need a new video card.
[11:02] <pollyo> installed.
[11:02] <VSpike> pollyo: hehe
[11:03] <VSpike> pollyo: what card do you have?
[11:03] <pollyo> Something about opengl in emulation and I can watch it draw the earth.
[11:03] <Skuller> Lynoure: oh well...i hope it works on yours and also hope mine doesnt get screwed anytime soon...thanks for the help...
[11:03] <pollyo> Well this machine is an old Dell Optiplex and I'm not even sure of the card.
[11:03] <Phoenix1701> Anyone?  What would you say my best option is from here?
[11:03] <Lynoure> Skuller: ah, this seemed to help, at least for now :)
[11:04] <VSpike> pollyo: probably ati rage or something
[11:04] <Lynoure> Skuller: Thank you for asking that question, otherwise I would have given up on mine
 i dont know. adding a contact just because the bill for my rootserver is sent to my signed...? than that would be only some kind of dummy, cause you dont work/answer with those kind of adresses
[11:04] <pollyo> I wish I could get Kubutunu to run on my Dell Dimension E510 but I can not even get the graphics system to work on that one.
[11:04] <Skuller> Lynoure: hehe...am glad things stirred up then...thanks once again...was dying to get something to get lyrics for me in amarok
[11:05] <VSpike> pollyo: would it install at all?
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> rahab: do you really need to trust the signature from a bill?
[11:05] <pollyo> Vspike: Can I look somewhere in KDE to find out what card is ni here?
 but basically youre right. if there was an option in the contacts i would use it if it was more convenient than importing the keys manually via kgpg ;)
[11:05] <Lynoure> Skuller: I'm even happy that someone else than me cares about the lyrics
 mhh yea, thats a good question :)
[11:05] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: you did backup your user data first, right?
[11:06] <pollyo> Vspike: It loads quite a bit then it bombs can't find window or something...
[11:06] <Skuller> Lynoure: wanted to same thing
[11:06] <Phoenix1701> waylandbill: Yeah, but it's still no fun to restore. :)
[11:06] <Skuller> to say*
[11:06] <pollyo> Vspike: Can;t find display.
[11:06] <waylandbill> I didn't catch the beginning, Phoenix1701, what is the problem you're having, btw?
[11:07] <Phoenix1701> waylandbill: I followed the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php under "Upgrading from 6.06 LTS", got through the dist-upgrade just fine, but now trying to install kubuntu-desktop, python-qt3, python-kde3, and ubuntu-minimal I'm getting "kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed"
[11:08] <pollyo> Will Beryl work on Kubuntu?
[11:08] <c0nv1ct> pollyo: yes
[11:08] <waylandbill> pollyo: yes, but expect bugs
[11:08] <pollyo> Any suggestions for a video card  that will work best with Linux?
[11:08] <c0nv1ct> pollyo: something not ATI :)
[11:08] <pollyo> Anything but ATI...
[11:09] <waylandbill> Nvidia is nice and their newest cards are lightning fast.
[11:09] <pollyo> nVisomething?
[11:09] <c0nv1ct> yeah, nvidia plays nice with linux
[11:09] <Phoenix1701> waylandbill: I feel like this must be a fairly common problem, but I haven't been able to find any information on how to fix it.
[11:09] <mlankhorst> but intel cards don't need setting up :P
[11:09] <Phoenix1701> And my apt-foo is not nearly good enough.
[11:10] <waylandbill> I'd take performance over ease of setup, but that's only my opinion
[11:10] <c0nv1ct> yeah, i dont think intel cards stack up against nvidia performance-wise
[11:10] <mlankhorst> at least they have open drivers.. ;p
[11:10] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: if you search for xorg, does it find it in the repo?
[11:10] <pollyo> Anyone know of a TVtuner card that supports cablecards that works with Linux.  I am getting a little of topic now...
[11:11] <pollyo> Mabye I need to check with Myth (I think that is what it is called)
[11:11] <pollyo> support.
[11:11] <Skuller> yes MythTV
[11:11] <mlankhorst> cable cards?
[11:11] <Phoenix1701> Yes; if I try to install it, it claims it needs libgl1-mesa-glx.
[11:11] <Skuller> isnt it the MCE replacement?
[11:12] <waylandbill> and does that exist?
[11:12] <pollyo> miankhorstL Yes.  In my area cable tv is scrambled.  You either need a cablebox or a tv/set top box that supports a cable card that the cable co. gives you.
[11:12] <Phoenix1701> Yes.  Last time I tried to install that it said it needed something ELSE, but trying it again now it's actually offering to do it...  though it wants to remove all kinds of things including kdebase-dev to do it.
[11:12] <mlankhorst> hmm
[11:12] <Phoenix1701> Should I go through with it, do you think?
[11:13] <Phoenix1701> Here's the full text it gives me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10459/
[11:13] <VSpike> pollyo: On your Dell desktop, you could try installing choosing safe graphics mode on live CD startup, which should install with the VESA drivers (which are pretty basic but will work on almost anything).
[11:14] <VSpike> pollyo: There are some cards that the open drivers just won't work with.  I had to do that, and then install a binary ATI driver to get X working smoothly
[11:14] <Phoenix1701> (I suddenly bet this has all sorts to do with the fact that I installed glx under Dapper.  Hmm.)
[11:14] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: those are auto installed. That should be ok.
[11:14] <VSpike> pollyo: Luckily I've chucked that card for an nVidia one now
[11:14] <Phoenix1701> Okay, let's give it a shot.
[11:14] <pollyo> VSpike: I'll have to give it another attempt.  I am going to get a new hard drive so I can have windows xp on one and Linux on the other.
[11:15] <Phoenix1701> heh.  Oh, man, this makes me nervous.  "dpkg: libgl1-mesa: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request"
[11:15] <pollyo> Oh... That brings up a question.  I have two drive on this system.  How can I mount a NTFS read only?  I do not want to write to it.  I heard that can be trouble.
[11:15] <VSpike> pollyo: btw I think "grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf" will give some clue what card you have
[11:16] <VSpike> pollyo: you could also try "lspci | grep -i vga"
[11:16] <pollyo> Vspike: Let me note those.
[11:16] <VSpike> pollyo: Normally KDE would mount additional volumes for you automatically, under /media"
[11:17] <Phoenix1701> pollyo: One answer, though not necessarily the best or only one, would be to edit the /etc/fstab file and mark that volume read-only.
[11:17] <VSpike> pollyo: try going to run on the KDE menu and entering media:/
[11:18] <pollyo> VSpike: Yes!
[11:18] <pollyo> Great.
[11:18] <VSpike> !ntfs
[11:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:18] <VSpike> !ntfs-3g
[11:18] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:18] <VSpike> ntfs-3g works really well if you need r/w access
[11:18] <Phoenix1701> Out of curiosity, folks, a bunch of things complained at me when I removed libgl1, including amarok and kdesktop.  Is there any way I can check to see whether those packages are correctly installed once all this is over, and if not, fix the broken dependencies?
[11:19] <pollyo> VSpike: What do I do to access it... I get hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[11:19] <VSpike> umm.. heh
[11:19] <pollyo> VSpike: oh... One thing I should mention... I am running feisty on this machine.
[11:20] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: if it is a problem you can try putting libgl1 back in afterwards. You could try it with aptitude which will recommend solutions to the problem as well.
[11:20] <pollyo> VSpike: Strange thing it installed without a hitch and has been running smooth.
[11:20] <Skuller> i am to make a Mousetrap Racer for a competetion...i was suggested an idea...can anyone help me put a microprocessor on the  mousetrap and install linux on it for its programming and help me assemble some chainsaw blades that can be programmed from it to attack mice automatically and not to mention put a set of thermal fusion jets also controlled by the microprocessor?...any help aprreciated :D
[11:20] <Phoenix1701> waylandbill: Aptitude, hm?  I've only got adept installed as far as I'm aware...  do you think I'd be better off installing and using aptitude?
[11:20] <VSpike> try doing "kdesu konqueror media:/"
[11:21] <VSpike> maybe its a permissions problem
[11:21] <pollyo> VSpike: Where do I type that in?  The Konqueror?
[11:21] <Phoenix1701> The same thing just happened with python2.4-kde3...  I'm guessing there's no way to say "apt-get, look at my packages and tell me if any of the ones I have installed are missing dependencies"?
[11:21] <VSpike> pollyo: terminalk
[11:21] <Skuller> pollyo: terminal....or alt+F2
[11:21] <VSpike> terminal even
[11:21] <pollyo> Oh..
[11:22] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: aptitude is very nice. It's what debian used in their installer for a long time.
[11:22] <pollyo> VSpike: Worked like a charm.
[11:22] <ionut> hello
[11:22] <Phoenix1701> waylandbill: And the fact that it's a GTK-based application running KDE doesn't cause any weird problems or anything?
[11:23] <Phoenix1701> Because adept is serviceable, but I wouldn't say it's great.
[11:23] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: aptitiude is console based.
[11:23] <Phoenix1701> s/running/running in/
[11:23] <VSpike> pollyo: interesting. not sure why that should be
[11:23] <waylandbill> and you should have no trouble running a Gtk app in Kde.
[11:23] <Phoenix1701> Er, wait, it is?  Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing then.
[11:24] <pollyo> VSpike: I'm able to access the drive now.
[11:24] <waylandbill> a vice versa
[11:24] <Phoenix1701> What's the default package manager in Ubuntu?
[11:24] <VSpike> pollyo: but you have to run as root do it :/
[11:24] <pollyo> At least in that instance.
[11:24] <waylandbill> you're thinking synaptic
[11:24] <Phoenix1701> Ahh, yes, yes I am.
[11:24] <Phoenix1701> Okay, I might try that then.
[11:24] <pollyo> VSpike: Yes.  It appears so.
[11:24] <Phoenix1701> Let's find out if it boots first though.  So far so good.
[11:24] <VSpike> pollyo: can you paste the output of "grep ntfs /etc/fstab"
[11:24] <pollyo> VSpike: Sure
[11:25] <waylandbill> it's gui is cryptic, but it can accept command lines just like apt-get. once you get used to the gui, it's not bad though.
[11:25] <Phoenix1701> Um.
[11:25] <Phoenix1701> Well, that's bad.
[11:25] <Phoenix1701> I can't start X.
[11:25] <VSpike> waylandbill: I'm coming to like aptitude more and more
[11:25] <Phoenix1701> If I manually do a "startx" at the prompt, it complains "no screens found"
[11:25] <pollyo> VSpike: Do I have to sudo grep ....?
[11:25] <VSpike> pollyo: no, shouldn't need to
[11:26] <Phoenix1701> Oh...  wait a moment.  I think this might be due to the nvidia kernel module.  This happened to me once before in Dapper.
[11:26] <ionut> hello, i need some help on my new kubuntu workstation
[11:26] <pollyo> VSpike: I opened a terminal window and type pated that in and it reutned nothing.
[11:26] <ionut> it's about fonts
[11:26] <ionut> how can i make them look "good"
[11:26] <VSpike> pollyo: I guess that's possible - maybe they being automatically mounted by some kde wizardry
[11:27] <ionut> now it's a total chaos
[11:27] <pollyo> I have to get going.....
[11:27] <pollyo> Thanks for the Help!
[11:27] <VSpike> pollyo: no prob
[11:28] <pollyo> BBL
[11:28] <ionut> help?
[11:28] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: if you built the kernel module manually, you'll have to again. If you used the premade one from the repo, it should've gave a compatible one
[11:29] <Phoenix1701> waylandbill: I used the premade one... but this is coming back to me slowly...  I think it might have something to do with 386 vs 686 problems
[11:29] <VSpike> its quite nice when you think you know nothing about linux but then realize you can help other people out with things.  Makes you realise you know more than you think you did.
[11:29] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: now the kernel is just -generic. no more 386 vs 686.
[11:30] <Phoenix1701> Hmm...  that's definitely an improvement, though I'm flooded with Google results when I search for the error message about the nvidia module.
[11:33] <|TheSpun|> hey all, i'm having problems trying to get the live cd to load so i can install. Keep getting the error kernel panic -  not synching: attempted to kill init!
[11:35] <|TheSpun|> it was suggested to me kast night to try running knoppix and see if that worked, and just done that and no problems
[11:35] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: I was going to say you can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log before I lost my connection
[11:35] <Phoenix1701> Ah, indeed.
[11:36] <Phoenix1701> Just says the same thing...  "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!"
[11:37] <VSpike> |TheSpun|: what version of live cd out of interest?
[11:37] <|TheSpun|> edgy :)
[11:38] <|TheSpun|> i changed my mobo and processor yesterday, prior to that i'd had no problems at all getting the live cd to work either on desktop or on my laptop
[11:40] <smurphy> Hmm. Any mac-mini users here ? Just upgraded my mac-mini to feisty - howeve can't boot the kernel 2.6.20-10-generic. Seems it stalls when recognising the S-ATA disk... Boots until there fine though.
[11:44] <Phoenix1701> So, if I'm reading these pages correctly, the problem might be that my proprietary nvidia driver isn't for the same version of the kernel I'm running...
[11:45] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: right
[11:45] <Phoenix1701> And apparently the fix for this might be to install linux-restricted-packages-someversionhere?
[11:45] <Phoenix1701> Oh!
[11:45] <VSpike> Phoenix1701: did you download the nvidia driver from nvidia, or did you install from repos?
[11:45] <waylandbill> repo
[11:45] <Phoenix1701> Orr, apparently, make sure to select the "generic" kernel at grub instead of the "386" kernel
[11:46] <smurphy> Hmm. Any mac-mini users here ? Just upgraded my mac-mini to feisty - howeve can't boot the kernel 2.6.20-10-generic. Seems it stalls when recognising the S-ATA disk... Boots until there fine though.
[11:46] <waylandbill> I would think that it would be default for generic (you can uname -r to tell)
[11:46] <|TheSpun|> anyone have any ideas what to do to get round this kernel panic error?
[11:46] <Phoenix1701> Well, both were available from the boot menu, and apparently the default is 386...  though I'm certainly going to change that.
[11:47] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: what is the last thing it shows during boot?
[11:47] <Phoenix1701> Now, I have X running (yay!).  But GLX isn't working now, which means I have no window decorations.  lol
[11:47] <smurphy> C0nv1ct: Can't tell you ... as I booted into 2.6.17-generic-10 which seems to still work.
[11:47] <smurphy> Just says - Invalid mode for ATA something ... SCSI disabled ...
[11:47] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: who needs those anyway. ;-P
[11:48] <smurphy> very strange message ...
[11:48] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: you should make note of the exact error, or troubleshooting it will be difficult
[11:48] <smurphy> Maybe I'll reboot and chack it ...
[11:48] <Phoenix1701> waylandbill: hehe, I somehow figured someone might say that.  ;)
[11:48] <smurphy> Yes - know ... I'll be back :)
[11:48] <VSpike> ##linux sucks sometimes :)
[11:50] <|TheSpun|> VSpike: i'm starting to find that out hehe
[11:50] <VSpike> :)
[11:51] <|TheSpun|> it's great being mostly new to linux cause i have no idea where to even start heh
[11:51] <|TheSpun|> :)
[11:51] <miltos> how do i make modprobe during boot permanent???
[11:51] <Phoenix1701> Does anyone here have any experience with compiz/glx?
[11:51] <Phoenix1701> I think I may need a little bit of help getting my eye candy back.
[11:51] <deviantone> wow going crazy =D
[11:52] <VSpike> Phoenix1701: try #ubuntu-xgl
[11:52] <waylandbill> miltos: look at the files in /etc/modprobe.d/
[11:52] <Phoenix1701> Whoa, a whole channel for that?
[11:52] <VSpike> Phoenix1701: you betcha
[11:52] <Phoenix1701> Interesting!
[11:52] <VSpike> the name has changed, but there's a redirect and i can't remember the exact name now
[11:52] <deviantone> anyone give me a link or guide me to changing my desktop resolution?
[11:52] <|TheSpun|> VSpike: any ideas where i could start trying to find out what's causing the error?
[11:52] <deviantone> only can get it to 1280x1024
[11:53] <sebr> how do i stop katapult starting up automatically?
[11:53] <waylandbill> deviantone: you need to put the modes you want to acheive in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:53] <deviantone> yes which I have
[11:53] <miltos> waylandbill, thanks...
[11:53] <VSpike> |TheSpun|: I'm not sure.. I tried a quick google and some suggestions were to make sure that BIOS is up to date
[11:53] <VSpike> |TheSpun|: could be worth a try?
[11:53] <|TheSpun|> could be indeed
[11:54] <waylandbill> deviantone: then, in system settings it should allow you to change to them.
[11:54] <deviantone> ive followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[11:54] <deviantone> which it hasnt waylandbill
[11:54] <Skuller> my hands are getting itchy to type in !op
[11:54] <waylandbill> deviantone: keep in mind that the resolutions /and/ the color depth for a mode must be supported by the card.
[11:55] <deviantone> yes
[11:55] <deviantone> my monitor goes up to 1724 x 1280 or whateva that resolution is
[11:55] <deviantone> want it to go to 1600x1200
[11:56] <waylandbill> deviantone: then you have to find out the color depth it supports, and the refresh rate. and the card has to support it, not just the monitor
[11:56] <deviantone> ok, and yes the card supports it have been running it for years in xp
[11:56] <deviantone> death to xp =)
[11:57] <waylandbill> you could get 32 bit color for one resolution, but maybe only 24 or 16 for another
[12:05] <manolo> hello
[12:05] <spark_> hello somebody there who could help me with a amarok problem?
[12:06] <manolo> what problem?
[12:06] <c0nv1ct> whats the problem, then i'll know if i can help :)
[12:06] <spark_> i got no settings :D perhaps i'm to stupid but if i start amarok there is no "settings" option as told in e.g. ubuntuuseres.de
[12:07] <c0nv1ct> spark_: its in the playlist window
[12:07] <|TheSpun|> hmmmmm i _think_ i've got the latest bios installed
[12:07] <c0nv1ct> spark_: if the menus arent there, hit ctrl-m
[12:07] <spark_> TY c0nv1ct :D
[12:08] <c0nv1ct> np man
[12:08] <marke> ola
[12:11] <dromer> !upgrade
[12:11] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[12:12] <spark_> hmm. well again a little question. i managed to use alsa in amarok (ty c0nv1ct). but i got a aureon 5.1 fun(alsa driver is cmipci) i installed all with a good tutorial but 5.1 sound isn't working yet. is there any option to configure alsa with a gui?
[12:13] <spark_> << (sry bloody newbie )
[12:13] <|TheSpun|> anyone have any other ideas where i can start to try and get the live cd to boto
[12:14] <root____> hello is anybody here ??
[12:14] <smurphy> Ok - to my mac-mini boot problem with feisty - seems the system does not recognise anything correct about the S-ATA drives.
[12:14] <root____> nobody here ???
[12:14] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: your bios doesn't support CD booting?
[12:14] <c0nv1ct> root____: no, nobody
[12:15] <waylandbill> !ask | root____
[12:15] <ubotu> root____: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:15] <smurphy> ata1: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
[12:15] <|TheSpun|> waylandbill: i get a kernel panic error and it stops
[12:15] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: it does detect their existance though?
[12:15] <smurphy> yes ...
[12:15] <smurphy> ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 P2 XX XX ] 
[12:15] <smurphy> ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x20D8 ctl 0x20FE bmdma 0x2020 irq 19
[12:15] <manchicken> root____: Don't IRC as root.
[12:15] <smurphy> scsi0: ata_piix
[12:15] <smurphy> ATA: abnormal status 0xF7 on port 0x20DF
[12:15] <smurphy> ata1.01: ATA-7, max UDMA/100, 117210240 sectors: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32)
[12:15] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: try disabling things like acpi and apic and apm
[12:15] <smurphy> ata1: ata1: dev 1 multi count 16
[12:15] <smurphy> ata1.01: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40)
[12:15] <smurphy> ata1.01: limiting speed to UDMA/66
[12:16] <smurphy> ata1: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
[12:16] <smurphy> ATA: abnormal status 0xF7 on port 0x20DF
[12:16] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin | smurphy
[12:16] <ubotu> smurphy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:16] <|TheSpun|> ok
[12:16] <root____> I looking for a help to fix my problem with LTSP on kubuntu
[12:16] <root____> how can I can my nickname ???
[12:16] <c0nv1ct> root____: log back into IRC using a non-root user
[12:17] <root____> okay how can I change my nickname ???
[12:17] <manchicken> root____: It's not your nick, it's your user.  **NEVER** IRC or IM as the root user.
[12:17] <smurphy> Hmmm... How does that work ? OK
[12:17] <smurphy> Haning in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10462/
[12:17] <manchicken> root____: You are logged into IRC as the root user.  DO NOT DO THAT.  It poses very serious security risks to you.
[12:18] <root____> I am realy new here
[12:18] <Phoenix1701> Hm.  So, um, KDE isn't drawing any window borders for me...  any idea how to get it to do so?
[12:18] <waylandbill> root____: you shouldn't be root for running the system anyway. You should be using a normal user.
[12:18] <smurphy> Had to type it off by hand ... As it did not recognise my usb-stick ... :) nSo I limited to ata-messages only.
[12:19] <|TheSpun|> waylandbill: being dumb like i am :) i can't find out how to disable any of those things :)
[12:19] <smurphy> anyone could have a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10462/ ? Thx ...
[12:20] <Skuller> Phoenix1701: do you have beryl?
[12:20] <waylandbill> Phoenix1701: you have composite extentions enabled? you could try disabling.
[12:20] <spark_> Phoenix1701:  your are using beryl?
[12:20] <Skuller> lol
[12:20] <spark_> :D
[12:20] <waylandbill> guess we were all heading in the same direction. :-)
[12:21] <spark_> yipp. i tried a whole day to get window extensions with beryl...
[12:21] <Skuller> hehe....beryl old beryl....b for beryl n b for bugs....hope feisty has a present in store
[12:21] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: one of the F keys will list help that shows how to disable them.
[12:21] <Phoenix1701> spark_ and Skuller, nope, I'm using Compiz.
[12:21] <smurphy> Hmmm... I think I'll reboot with disablig ACPI ...
[12:21] <smurphy> brb.
[12:21] <Phoenix1701> But I think you're onto something all the same. :)
[12:22] <hakan> hello everybody
[12:22] <Phoenix1701> And waylandbill, I do have composite extensions enabled, yes, because I'm trying to use Compiz.  :)  I had it all working on Dapper, so I'd rather not disable it here.
[12:22] <Skuller> oh....well its the graphic rendering integration of the kernel that bugs up i guess....expected to be improved in feisty
[12:22] <_JP> I'd like to create a .deb package with certain dependencies. I'm able
[12:22] <_JP> to add required packages  with "--requires=blaa", but how do I specify
[12:22] <_JP> the required version?
[12:23] <_JP> arg, sorry
[12:23] <|TheSpun|> found acpi :) disabling it and got the same error
[12:23] <spark_> hmhm i found wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Beryl. look at "trouble shooting " Phoenix1701. it works with beryl so: why shouldn't it work with compiz
[12:23] <Phoenix1701> I'll give that a shot, thank you
[12:23] <Skuller> Phoenix1701: i have that problem at times...but goes away if i enable beryl
[12:23] <waylandbill> expect problems with compiz and beryl, that's my advice. :-)
[12:24] <Phoenix1701> Though unfortunately I don't speak German.
[12:24] <Skuller> !german
[12:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:24] <waylandbill> I got beryl running on this laptop before, but VNC makes it act real, real crazy
[12:24] <Skuller> hehe
[12:25] <spark_> oh doens't matter i can translate it. you just have to take the code after"Fensterrahmen fehlen" and put it into the xorg.conf Phoenix1701
[12:25] <Phoenix1701> I don't suppose "Fensterrahmen fehlen" would be "no window decorations"?
[12:25] <waylandbill> needing to run vnc was more important than beryl even though flaming windows are wickedly awesome. :-D
[12:25] <Phoenix1701> Ah, guess so. :)
[12:25] <Skuller> but i am gladf that beryl smokes vista's a**
[12:25] <spark_> great
[12:25] <Phoenix1701> On the plus side, Compiz seems much snappier under Edgy...
[12:25] <Iznougoud> I'm trying to make Ubuntu 6.06 accept incoming connections via the serial port (nullmodem) and forward them to a router i.e. internet connection sharing. Any ideas on how to go about that?
[12:25] <spark_> ubuntu in general smokes vistas a**
[12:26] <Skuller> hehe...sorry not to have mentioned that
[12:27] <_JP> Hi, I'm playing around with checkinstall and I'd like to create a .deb package with certain dependencies. I'm able to add required packages  with "--requires=blaa", but how do I specify the required version?
[12:27] <spark_> hmhm anyone has a clue how to get a aureon fun 5.1(alsa driver is cmipci) fully working with ubuntu(i just don't get 5.1 support :(
[12:27] <_JP> Something like "--requires=blaa>=1.2.3" doesn't work; the version is not taken into account by checkinstall but an empty file called "=1.2.3" is created in the current working directory.
[12:27] <hakan> can anybody help me regarding to LTSP with dapper drake
[12:28] <Phoenix1701> spark_: No luck, I'm afraid.
[12:28] <spark_> hm
[12:28] <Phoenix1701> It's weird...  on login, it seems like it actually does have drop shadows and whatnot for a second or two, but then they go away.
[12:28] <hakan> I have installed LTSP on my dapper drake
[12:29] <hakan> an when client logout the server go down kdm and freeze
[12:30] <naamuis> how i can change m4a files to mp3? in ubuntu
[12:31] <smurphy> re ... Nope - ACPI=off didn't solve the issue. Sames to be a bug with IHC7 bridge and Libata ...
[12:32] <smurphy> anyone can give me a hint if we have newer kernels for feisty somewhere ???
[12:32] <c0nv1ct> naamuis: you can try soundkonverter, not sure if it supports m4a
[12:32] <Phoenix1701> Hmm...  interesting...
[12:32] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: any idea about amr?
[12:33] <c0nv1ct> amr?
[12:33] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: sound format it is...mostly used by mobile phones for playing/recording
[12:33] <|TheSpun|> Still having same problems when trying to load the Live CD, Kernel Panic Error. Anyone have any other suggestions i can try?
[12:33] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: sorry, i'm not familiar with it, my phone uses mp3s
[12:34] <smile> Skuller: try Realplayer
[12:34] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: yes mp3 is common...but a friend sent me a recorded call and its in amr
[12:34] <Skuller> smile: ok i will...is it in the repos?
[12:34] <Phoenix1701> So it definitely loads the right thing at first, and looks great...  but then around the same time it launches xscreensaver the screen flashes black, and the window decorations go away.
[12:34] <Skuller> !realplayer
[12:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:35] <smile> run "sudo apt-get install realplayer " but u must enable non free repos !!
[12:35] <Skuller> smile: roger that..thanks
[12:36] <Skuller> smile: ok so which repo exactly do i need to enable?
[12:36] <mayhem_> hi there
[12:36] <Skuller> smile: i have used source o matic but i guess its not there
[12:37] <mayhem_> any one able to help me with packet news
[12:37] <smile> Skuller: enable (deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main)
[12:38] <Skuller> smile: thanks
[12:40] <smurphy> anyone can give me a hint if we have newer kernels for feisty somewhere ???
[12:41] <demiurge> Morning.
[12:41] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: www.kernel.org ? :P
[12:42] <smurphy> c0nv1ct: yes - but I'd like a ubuntu kernel... Mine heangs at boot on my mac-mini. Seems the ICH7 and Libata do not cooperate ...
[12:42] <smurphy> But - I can recompile a kernel ...
[12:43] <c0nv1ct> you may need to compile your own to make it work right
[12:43] <smurphy> yep. Looks like ...
[12:43] <smurphy> recompiling isn't the issue though. Time is the issue :)
[12:43] <|TheSpun|> Still having same problems when trying to load the Live CD, Kernel Panic Error. Anyone have any other suggestions i can try?
[12:45] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: disabling those extentions didn't help? try the alternate CD or a different version.
[12:45] <|TheSpun|> waylandbill: i've also tried another live cd and the alt cd and i get the same error
[12:46] <|TheSpun|> knoppix works ok (was asked to try that on here last night)
[12:46] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: This will sound way wrong but try again.  I had the same problems on my iBook install, After the 6th boot it just took.  No logic...
[12:46] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: all I can suggest is to disable some of your hardware until you find who's causing the panic.
[12:47] <sae> ciao qualcuno mi puo' aiutare
[12:47] <eeos> hi there.
[12:47] <demiurge> I should add, I got 5 other random errors on each of the other boots.
[12:47] <|TheSpun|> demiurge: thanks :) been getting exactly the same error since last night though heh
[12:47] <eeos> do you know if it possible to successfuly install the kernel from feisty under 6.10? has this kernel been backported?
[12:48] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: Worth a try, I still don't know what made it stick on my iBook.  -lol-
[12:48] <Skuller> smile: after enaling the repo u gave me, adept manager shows about 13 updates...all relating to beryl...should i go ahead with them? (it says 'not authenticated')
[12:48] <waylandbill> demiurge: that just means it has the possibility to come back when you least need it to. :-)
[12:49] <demiurge> All painful, yet funny stories aside...  Could anyone answer a question about mime-types in kfm for me?
[12:49] <waylandbill> Skuller: the ubuntu beryl project repo has authenticated packages. You just have to add the key for it.
[12:49] <|TheSpun|> newbesque question, but why would knoppix work fine but kubuntu not?
[12:50] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: different options in the kerenl
[12:50] <waylandbill> kernel*
[12:50] <|TheSpun|> cool
[12:50] <smile> Skuller: YES OF CO.URSE ... U CAN DOWNLOAD OVER HERE REALPLAYER AND OPERA NAVIGATOR & OTHER COMMERCIAL PACK
[12:50] <Phoenix1701> Anyone have any idea why I might be getting the following error?  "gtk-window-decorator: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0""
[12:51] <Skuller> smile: ok thans
[12:51] <demiurge> waylandbill: Oh trust me I know.  I'm running the rc3 if you will.  It has more problems then I will go into, it's what I get for not being willing to wait for the final.  :D
[12:51] <Skuller> waylandbill: sure thing...thanks
[12:51] <|TheSpun|> stupid question #2 then :) if i managed to get it working with stuff disabled, would that mean it had to stay disabled?
[12:52] <demiurge> I had hopes for better bcm support, no such luck though, I still have to modprobe -r my bcm43xx mod and reload after every ssid switch.
[12:52] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: most likely
[12:53] <|TheSpun|> hmmm
[12:53] <demiurge> </random tangent>
[12:53] <_4strO> yop yop
[12:53] <|TheSpun|> and because i'm on a roll now :) is it worth trying an ubuntu live cd, or an i going to have exactly the same problem?
[12:53] <waylandbill> demiurge: I blacklisted bcm43xx. I get much better results from ndiswrapper (and a driver not supplied by this laptop manufacturer)
[12:54] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: you'll have the same trouble as they likely have the same kernel
[12:54] <|TheSpun|> again thats what i thought heh
[12:54] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: if you can get the system up, you can roll your own kernel to remove the offending option.
[12:54] <demiurge> waylandbill: Agreed, still would be nice for good native support if you will.
[12:55] <eeos> do you know if it possible to successfuly install the kernel from feisty under 6.10? has this kernel been backported?
[12:55] <|TheSpun|> guess i'm kinda screwed right now then heh, that's mostly way over my head just now :)
[12:55] <waylandbill> eeos: is there something in that kernel that you can't live without? It's only a month or so from final.
[12:57] <demiurge> Again, the real reason I showed up is I just did a clean install of 6.10 on my main system.  The installer had a big problem with one of my drives to the point it (the install) would crash, I installed w/o that drive.  While the UUID system for fstab but me into a loop for a bit, I added the UUID file to /dev/disk/by-uuid.
[12:58] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: did you say you tried a different live CD version of kubuntu?
[12:58] <|TheSpun|> yup i burnt off another copy last night
[12:58] <waylandbill> dapper probably.
[12:59] <demiurge> My problem came when trying to make a "folder" of the correct mime-type for kfm to give all the same property information as the mount points created by the installer.
[12:59] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: you could always try mepis. They have a different kernel compiled. :-)
[01:00] <demiurge> I can't seem to find a way to edit a folders mime-type to match and while it might be more easy to add a "create new" media/mounted_hd... I don't know where I would add that to the kfm menu.
[01:01] <|TheSpun|> waylandbill: thanks for the suggestion :) kinda sucks cause i'm a newb to linux and really liked kubuntu
[01:01] <waylandbill> |TheSpun|: mepis is very close to kubuntu. it's another kde dapper derivative.
[01:01] <eeos> waylandbill actually, I wanted to test compilation of some modules on it before it was released.
[01:02] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: This is an ugly way to go about it but have to given any thought to installing Ubuntu and then just installing the kde dummy package?  It does make for an ugly menu but sometimes the Ubuntu install goes a little more smoth.
[01:03] <eeos> waylandbill because htey appear not to compile anymore.
[01:03] <waylandbill> eeos: you could always get the kernel from kernel.org although it'd be vanilla and not ubuntu patched.
[01:03] <eeos> waylandbill I need the ubuntu patched. If I had a list of pacthes, I could patch it myself, but cannot find the ist of patches
[01:04] <waylandbill> demiurge: my guess is the kernel panic would still happen if it uses the same kernel.
[01:04] <|TheSpun|> guess that's my next attempt then :) try ubuntu
[01:05] <Phoenix1701> Oh well, I give up.
[01:05] <Phoenix1701> Looks like I'm going to be nuking and reinstalling my entire system because I can't get window decorations.  That's pretty lame.
[01:05] <demiurge> waylandbill: Have you never seen an installer caused kernel panic?  The config of the installing from Ubuntu to Kubuntu at the kernel level should be little to nothing but if he really wants to give it one list try, stranger things have happened in the Linux world.  :)
[01:06] <demiurge> last even.
[01:07] <waylandbill> demiurge: yes. I've seen the installer kernel panic before on certain motherboards.
[01:07] <demiurge> Anyway, any idea on my mime-type problem?  I'm sure I'm not the first person to add a new hdd to an running system.
[01:08] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: If it works, let me know just so I can know I'm not alone on the random installer problems :)
[01:08] <|TheSpun|> lol
[01:08] <|TheSpun|> will do, just burning ubuntu disk now
[01:09] <Phoenix1701> I even know what the problem is now...  I have two versions of libGL.so, one from nvidia and one from the system, and something somewhere is picking the wrong one.
[01:09] <demiurge> Oh I miss my real high speed connection, I just moved and am now at oh 32th of the speed I was at, it hurts :)
[01:09] <Phoenix1701> But I have no idea what, and at this point there are like seven things all loading together and I have no idea how to turn any of them off.
[01:09] <|TheSpun|> heh wish mine was fast, but luckily i had an iso already downloaded :P
[01:10] <barros> hi guys.. I've just updated from dapper to edgy and have a problem with my X. When I use splash in boot param, my X does not start. After the splash finishes, I get a blank screen and I cant do anuything, even change TTYs. Anyone know something about it?
[01:11] <demiurge> hehe I went from a place I was getting 1.2Mbsp downloads to a max 27Kbps -lol-
[01:11] <|TheSpun|> ouch
[01:11] <karlos_> eu
[01:11] <|TheSpun|> i only hit about 400 download on a good day
[01:11] <karlos_> tem alguem do brasil ai
[01:11] <|TheSpun|> 1,2meg is a pipedream :P
[01:11] <barros> karlos_, eu
[01:11] <karlos_> de onde vc e barros
[01:12] <|TheSpun|> exactly same error on ubuntu live cd
[01:12] <demiurge> Mine was stable at 1m down.  Highest cable connection and where I lived I was the only one on the line, it was sweet.
[01:12] <Skuller> smile: i am afraid realplayer didnt help me play .amr files....thanks for your help though
[01:13] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: What version are you installing bty, I came in after you said I'm sure.
[01:13] <|TheSpun|> edgy :)
[01:13] <Skuller> |TheSpun|: hehe...i am on 128kbps....1.2 meg is a pipedream fer me too
[01:13] <|TheSpun|> was running it fine till this upgrade :) almost makes me want to go back to the crappy celeron lol
[01:13] <barros> if I remove the splash option, I get a functional X.. probably is something about the framebuffer
[01:14] <demiurge> Skuller: That's what I'm on now :)
[01:14] <Skuller> demiurge: 128k?
[01:15] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: I would say wait a few more days for for feisty to go final and give it a try, I've not had much luck with distupgrades being so "clean"
[01:16] <demiurge> Skuller: I was on a 12mbps connection before I move here, I am now on a 128kbps connection.
[01:16] <Skuller> demiurge: hehe...thas a big demotion...sad...well atleast it beats dialup
[01:17] <demiurge> Skuller: Can't fight that point :D
[01:17] <|TheSpun|> somoeone just suggested to me to make sure the onboard graphics are disabled as ihave another graphics card in the box
[01:17] <|TheSpun|> anyone able to explain how i do that?
[01:17] <demiurge> Still only took 6 hours to download Kubuntu not a day and a half.
[01:17] <Skuller> |TheSpun|: in the bios?
[01:17] <|TheSpun|> Skuller: yup
[01:18] <Skuller> demiurge: wowo that was fast...to download the live cd it wud've taken me a day n half
[01:18] <Skuller> -o
[01:18] <smile> Skuller: I can play AMR in Windows with LGmediaplayer
[01:18] <smile> Skuller: try to google that under linux
[01:19] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: Look under peripherals and disable the onboard gfx chip.
[01:19] <Skuller> smile: yes i can play amr in windows with my nokia suite's multimedia player too..
[01:19] <Skuller> smile: ok...thanks i will
[01:20] <|TheSpun|> hmmm can't seem to find any mention of graphics under intergrated peripherals... always knew i should have paid more attention to bios lol
[01:21] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: What bois do you have?
[01:22] <Skuller> |TheSpun|: there should be an option to use AGP/PCI-E as the default graphics...you dont have to disable integrated graphics...just enale the gpu as ur default one
[01:22] <|TheSpun|> phoenix AwardBios
[01:24] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: w/o a reboot I'm trying to remember what menu it is under but Skuller was correct, it's just a setting for the default...  No way to fully disable..  (without removing the chip -rofl-)
[01:25] <|TheSpun|> okies, having a poke around right now
[01:25] <|TheSpun|> ironically of course windows installed fine as the first part of my dual bootingness lol
[01:26] <Skuller> chip....here i come...muhahaha
[01:27] <Skuller> |TheSpun|: did you install windows b4 kubun on a machine that u intend to dual boot?
[01:27] <|TheSpun|> yes
[01:27] <Skuller> ok
[01:29] <kiwii> hi I can run xterm when Im logged as normal user, but when I do su root I cant run anything in X
[01:29] <eMaX> anyone here knows a bit about knetworkmanager?
[01:30] <eMaX> Since I enabled also my non wireless interface, what was previously eth2 and wireless now became eth3. knetworkmanager still sees both, yet only when Iook at "Static connection..."
[01:30] <eMaX> by the icon I can see it understands it as a wireless device
[01:30] <eMaX> wlassistant has no problem bringing the interface jup
[01:31] <hacked_kernel> kiwii: $: kdesu <cmd>
[01:31] <demiurge> Run far away and use a command line?  The kde network tools being me nightmares  -lol-
[01:33] <barros> anyone here usin beryl?
[01:33] <kiwii> hacked_kernel:  yes it works, does it mean that i cant login as root ( for exampel ssh -X root, or VNC ) ?
[01:34] <demiurge> barros: I am, what's up?
[01:34] <barros> demiurge, is it stating up correctly, with kde?
[01:35] <demiurge> barros: Depending on the Kubuntu version yes, what are you running?
[01:35] <barros> demiurge, i'm using edgy..
[01:36] <barros> demiurge, I put beryl-manager link in Autostart and it loads, but uses kwin as the window manager, even though its showing up beryl in the popup menu
[01:36] <hacked_kernel> kiwii: I think you always can login as root
[01:37] <Daisuke_Ido> barros: same problem here.  Beryl starts at startup, i just have to manually change over the WM
[01:37] <demiurge> barros: On edgy I had no problems, on feisty, that's another story.  How did you install it?  From a repo or custom compile?
[01:37] <barros> demiurge, from a repo at ubuntu.beryl-something.....
[01:37] <|TheSpun|> oh well, i'm gonna have to give up for now...
[01:37] <barros> Daisuke_Ido, yeah, that is it
[01:38] <demiurge> |TheSpun|: Good luck to you, don't give up.  Like I said, maybe wait a few days for Feisty, it's do soon :)
[01:38] <|TheSpun|> yeah i know mate
[01:38] <|TheSpun|> just frustrating that i can't get it reinstalled ya know
[01:39] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[01:39] <Daisuke_Ido> 0.2.0 is out
[01:40] <demiurge> I can't say I've had the same problems but have you finished the steps listed http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_AIGLX ?
[01:40] <demiurge> The steps under Configuring Beryl.
[01:41] <barros> demiurge, no.. I have a nvidia card, so I used the other link, about nvidia
[01:41] <demiurge> The Configuring Beryl steps are the same, it just has to do with kde.
[01:43] <barros> demiurge, I'll take a look to see if there's somthing I didnt do
[01:45] <demiurge> barros:  On my iBook I am running Feisty and could not get a deb, I had to build them myself.  Point is, I've been jumping around a lot and don't remmember where I had to do what so I hope I can help but my word may not be gold.
[01:46] <barros> demiurge, ok.. I'll try the session trick later when I get home.. thank for you help.
[01:47] <shadowhywind> hi all, just curious when is the next release due roughly out? I know 6 months.. but roughly speaking...
[01:47] <demiurge> barros: Best of luck, I know it can work, I'm using it now and don't have that problem any more.  I just can't recall for sure if that was the fix or if I did something else on this system -blush-
[01:48] <Jucato> !feisty | shadowhywind
[01:48] <ubotu> shadowhywind: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:48] <shadowhywind> that is what i thought, hehe thanks jucato
[01:49] <barros> demiurge, ok, thanks again
[01:49] <BluesKaj> I did some math about my resolution options ...the "native" resolution of my monitor is 120x960 (4x3) and it's listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. However that choice isn't available in system settings. How can I change the X11 settings to make the 1280x960 show up as an option in system settings ?
[01:49] <Skuller> the only reason i am really anticipating the release of feisty is due to the hope that my webcam and APC ups's driver might work with it
[01:50] <BluesKaj> er 1280x960
[01:50] <Skuller> typo
[01:52] <waylandbill> is there a hex editor that will do side-by-side comparisons?
[01:53] <dromer> ok, this is weird, I just found this out and I have no idea if it's related, but I just upgraded my dapper to edgy and installed beryl, now when I press wy capslock the light on the keyboard doesn't work (very anoying!) could this have anything to do with linux?
[01:54] <Skuller> dromer: dont think so...but then i could be wrong
[01:55] <Skuller> dromer: best thing would be to try another keyboard for testing
[01:55] <dromer> hmm, and when I apt-get update I still see some dapper resources, all from medibuntu.sos-sts.com but they aren't in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:57] <waylandbill> dromer: /etc/apt/sources.d maybe?
[01:58] <Skuller> !medibuntu
[01:58] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:58] <dromer> waylandbill: ah yes, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[02:00] <waylandbill> hey BluesKaj. how goes it
[02:02] <BluesKaj> hi waylandbill
[02:03] <BluesKaj> pretty good , and how's things for you
[02:04] <miltos> i want this command "modprobe saa7134 card=23" to be permanent every time i start kubuntu...
[02:04] <amay> hi
[02:04] <naamuis> where can i find working snes emulator
[02:05] <BluesKaj> trying to figure out how to get my monitors' native1280x960 resolution option in system settings ...it's listed in X11
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> in the repositories - both snes and snes9x work well
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> *zsnes
[02:05] <naamuis> ok
[02:05] <waylandbill> not bad. I'm reverse engineering a protocol to determine differences with equipment in use and not.
[02:06] <waylandbill> sounds like a barrel of fun I'm sure. :)
[02:06] <BluesKaj> sounds heavy :)
[02:07] <naamuis> i just unpack the package found @ zsnes homepage?
[02:07] <dromer> !kiba
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <dromer> !kiba-dock
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <dromer> hmm
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> naamuis: use adept
[02:08] <naamuis> adept?
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> !zsnes
[02:08] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:08] <BluesKaj> where in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf do i find the resolution setting that's in use ?
[02:10] <Skuller> ps2 emulator?
[02:10] <b0rt> hey there
[02:11] <b0rt> any1 could tell me a repo for: linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-28-386
[02:12] <kdehl> Sorry for the newbie question, but I can
[02:13] <kdehl> 't seem to find a guide on how to update the kernel on ubuntu
[02:13] <kdehl> 's webpages.
[02:13] <kdehl> Damn, enter is too close to the apostrophy.
[02:13] <soulrider> kdehl: you cant finda  guy ?
[02:13] <soulrider> guide*
[02:13] <soulrider> (its early int he morning for me :P)
[02:13] <kdehl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelUpdates?highlight=%28CategoryKernel%29
[02:13] <kdehl> Is that it?
[02:14] <kdehl> I need the 2.4.20, but it seems default (I installed kubuntu for the first time yesterday) is 2.4.17.
[02:14] <soulrider> oh
[02:14] <soulrider> no idea
[02:14] <soulrider> but why not use a 2.6 kernel? =/
[02:14] <Jucato> O.o
[02:15] <kdehl> Ouch. I mean 2.6.20. ;)
[02:15] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: I don't know that you can find it in the xorg.conf, but the /var/log/Xorg.0.log will say
[02:15] <soulrider> i dont really know the differences between 2.4 and 2.6 :P
[02:15] <soulrider> ah
[02:15] <b0rt> soulrider: 2.6.15-28-386, is that discontinued?
[02:15] <soulrider> well, you could compile your own.. =/
[02:15] <kdehl> Too many numbers. ;)
[02:15] <soulrider> hold on, let me see which kernel im using
[02:15] <Skuller> too many 1's n 0's
[02:15] <kdehl> Yup.
[02:15] <b0rt> lol
[02:15] <Jucato> kdehl: or you can install feisty if you absolutely need 2.6.20
[02:16] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, I'm thinking i should do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure that it's check off as an option
[02:16] <kdehl> Jucato: feisty?
[02:16] <soulrider> 2.6.17
[02:16] <Jucato> !feisty | kdehl
[02:16] <ubotu> kdehl: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:16] <soulrider> its comming out in like a month
[02:16] <Skuller> i think in the future children will be taught base 2 as the main mathematics....so they can code directly for the computers...:D...what a wild thought
[02:16] <dromer> so, can anybody tel me why the vieuwports of beryl don't correspond to the 4 desktops I have on kde? and why, under beryl the 4 kde-desktops don't work?
[02:17] <kdehl> ubotu: Aha.
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aha. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <kdehl> I see.
[02:17] <kdehl> ubotu: You stupid bot.
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you stupid bot. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <soulrider> dromer: they never did
[02:17] <Skuller> lol
[02:17] <kdehl> Heh.
[02:17] <Skuller> !ubotu | ubotu
[02:17] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:17] <kdehl> Jucato: Can I upgrade, or do I need to reinstall?
[02:18] <dromer> soulrider: hmm, I need a better way to integrate beryl into my current kde-desktop I think :P
[02:18] <kdehl> I'm so lazy. I could just install a kernel manually.
[02:18] <soulrider> kdehl: feisty is still a developement version
[02:18] <Jucato> kdehl: if it's just a new install, you probably just want to reinstall. but you can upgade.. you can also just compile your kernel
[02:18] <name7ess> hi
[02:18] <Jucato> !kernel | kdehl
[02:18] <ubotu> kdehl: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:18] <name7ess> on ubuntu you can change the langauge in gdm
[02:18] <name7ess> on kubuntu u can't
[02:18] <soulrider> kdehl: if you know how to install a kernel manually, i think its better that you do that instead of installing feisty
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> any one here too getting a md5sum mismatch for ubuntu.beryl-project.org ded repo ?
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> deb*
[02:19] <name7ess> how can i change the lang of the whole sys?
[02:19] <dromer> soulrider: are there window specific settings like in kde that I can force certain programs to a specific viewport?
[02:19] <kdehl> soulrider: Yeah okay.
[02:19] <soulrider> |lostbyte|: mine installed just fine last night
[02:19] <kdehl> I'll do it manually.
[02:19] <Skuller> "i want to test the sharpness of my new knife...whom should i murder?"
[02:19] <soulrider> |lostbyte|: wants the deb packages ?
[02:19] <soulrider> Skuller: got any pets? :P
[02:19] <kdehl> I just thought there was a way of doing it in the package management system. Don't want to screw that up.
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, i am doing a apt-get update and i got that, well. been using that repo for a month now.
[02:20] <Skuller> soulrider: no...this isnt my first new knife :D
[02:20] <soulrider> LOL Skuller
[02:20] <name7ess> any ideas
[02:20] <name7ess> or do i have to set it up again?
[02:20] <soulrider> |lostbyte|: I HAVE BEEN USING THE REPO FOR A WHILE TOO...
[02:20] <soulrider> sorry caps!
[02:21] <soulrider> |lostbyte|: what i would do is "sudo aptitude clean" "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[02:21] <soulrider> maybe if you clear the cache
[02:21] <soulrider> or at least delete the beryl-updates deb files
[02:21] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, Well, i added the key, and now its working, I fear its not a compromised key.
[02:21] <soulrider> i thought the problem was with the package itself not the repo
[02:22] <|lostbyte|> oh.. k, was just wondering if any one had the same issue.
[02:23] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, http://blog.beryl-project.org/?p=29
[02:23] <|lostbyte|> brb
[02:32] <cam_> Does anyone have any ideas why i can see wireless networks in the Wireless assistant, but i cannot see any in KNetworkManager
[02:33] <cam_> my connection uses WPA so i need to use KNetworkManager to connect
[02:34] <console> #squid
[02:36] <soulrider> !translate
[02:36] <ubotu> translate: translates words from English into German or viceversa. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-9 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 76 kB
[02:36] <soulrider> !translations
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about translations - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <soulrider> oh damn!
[02:37] <soulrider> !translating
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about translating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <soulrider> !es
[02:37] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:37] <Jucato> soulrider: you know the drilll when you don't know what factoid you really want
[02:40] <soulrider> Jucato: you got any idea of how translations work with rosseta_ who aproves them etc etc _
[02:40] <Jucato> !rosetta
[02:40] <ubotu> rosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language.  See https://launchpad.net/rosetta/+about
[02:40] <soulrider> change all _ for ?
[02:41] <Jucato> not really...
[02:41] <soulrider> ah, ok
[02:41] <eilker> Error loading keymap /var/tmp/server-0.xkm    any solution for this ?
[02:41] <soulrider> im getting a 404 from that link :P it should be fixed
[02:41] <Jucato> https://launchpad.net/rosetta
[02:42] <soulrider> thanks
[02:44] <eilker> !metissa
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metissa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <Jucato> metisse isn't available in the repos.
[02:49] <fernando> how can I disable on beryl the "windows-management->scale" activation with the mouse on the right/up corner of the screnn?
[02:51] <c0nv1ct> its in the settings, but i forget where, try #beryl
[02:52] <smurphy> Hmmm... Rebuilding 2.6.20.3 makes feisty boot again ... ICH7 Bug seem to be fixed there.
[02:53] <c0nv1ct> fernando: open Beryl Settings manager, under General Options, go to Shortcuts, click Screen Edges tab
[02:53] <fernando> yes.. I found it..thanks :-)
[02:53] <VSpike> I have some really basic questions about sending encrypted mail with Kmail... I've never really used public key encryption much and I think I'm missing some basic concepts...
[02:53] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: you the one with the mac mini sata problem?
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> VSpike: ask away
[02:54] <smurphy> C0nv1tL yep - I was ;)
[02:54] <VSpike> Firstly, can I get kmail to automatically find and install keys for recipients, or do I need to use Kgpg as well?
[02:54] <Greenery> do i need to format the whole disk to install kubuntu? or can i use the available free space?
[02:54] <smurphy> Greenery: No - u need a new computer ... :)
[02:55] <Greenery> oh really....sigh
[02:55] <smurphy> Greenery: No - you can install it on available space on your HD.
[02:55] <Greenery> ><
[02:55] <c0nv1ct> VSpike: AFAIK, you have to download them with KGpg or other means manually
[02:55] <VSpike> Greenery: the installer may be able to shrink the partition for you, depending on what file system is used... although I have to say, it has never worked for me :)
[02:55] <smurphy> C0nv1ct: Linux deimos.solsys.org 2.6.20.3mac-mini #1 SMP Thu Mar 15 13:02:38 CET 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:55] <smurphy> :)
[02:55] <c0nv1ct> Greenery: as long as there is enough free space
[02:56] <Greenery> file system u referring to ntfs or fat32 right?
[02:56] <VSpike> c0nv1ct: OK... I couldn't see anything but just wondered if I was missing something obvious.
[02:56] <VSpike> Greenery: yep
[02:56] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: nice job, i updated my kernel the day before 2.6.20.3 became stable :(
[02:56] <VSpike> Greenery: ntfs you have no hope, FAT you have a chance
[02:56] <Greenery> i have ntfs but kubuntu can still work?
[02:57] <c0nv1ct> it can read that partition yeah
[02:57] <c0nv1ct> writing to it, is possible, but not safe
[02:57] <smurphy> c0nv1ct: Lol ... Had no choice. 2.6.17-generic 11 would not boot, generic-10 did work, but beheaved kind of flaky under Feisty. So went to single-mode and recompiled the kernel; 2.6.20.3 ...
[02:57] <smurphy> Let's see how stable it is ...
[02:58] <BluesKaj> waylandbill: Ive forgotten the cmnd to list the previous settings of X11 so i can get X back up and running ...need to go back to a date where the sttings were working ...I'm at the prompt ATM
[02:58] <VSpike> c0nv1ct: I don't think he'll be able to shrink an ntfs parition to create a new parition for installation though, will he?
[02:58] <c0nv1ct> VSpike: he might, but i wouldnt
[02:58] <c0nv1ct> linux can easily break ntfs :)
[02:59] <c0nv1ct> i know qparted can resize ntfs, and i've heard people doing it with good results
[02:59] <VSpike> Greenery: when you say "free space". is you disk completely used by partitions, but you have free space in those partitions, do you mean there is unpartitioned space on the disk?
[02:59] <smurphy> convict: Yeah - well - when NTFS is broken - make it a LInux partition :)
[02:59] <VSpike> c0nv1ct: really? I didn't realise that
[02:59] <Greenery> yeah there is unpartitioned space on the disk
[02:59] <c0nv1ct> Greenery: how much unpartitioned space?
[02:59] <VSpike> Greenery: Ohhh... well, that's easy then
[02:59] <smurphy> Now - I need to get my atmel-wlan card to talk to my access-point again - after I upgraded the firmware...
[02:59] <Greenery> well 100gb
[03:00] <c0nv1ct> ah, thats plenty
[03:00] <smurphy> anyone knows how to downgrade firmware in here ??? :)
[03:00] <BluesKaj> anyone know the command to list the previous versions of xorg-xserver?
[03:01] <VSpike> My second gpg/kmail question: I've installed a key for the recipient in Kgpg but kmail won't use it to send.  It says "No valid and trusted key for recipient@xyzdomain.com".  It lists all my keys in the dialog with yellow ? on them.  When I select the key for the recipient, it turns into a red X on that key and disables the OK button
[03:01] <VSpike> VSpike: why is that and how do i fix it?
[03:01] <c0nv1ct> VSpike: make that recipient a contact, and set the default key for that contact
[03:03] <smurphy> Hmmm... atheros drivers do not work anymore ...
[03:04] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: usually xorg.conf is overwritten. if you have a backup, it'd be useful to you.
[03:04] <Greenery> so i'll just use the kubuntu installer with no problems?
[03:04] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: did you forget to add some modules?
[03:04] <smurphy> convict: I compiled it - using the config-file of 2.6.20 feisty as template. With all modules :)
[03:06] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: did you run makeconfig or xconfig to make sure all the necessary modules you need are in there?
[03:06] <BluesKaj> waylandbill: what's the command to get the xorg backup list?
[03:06] <conrad_> how can i find what my graphics card is?
[03:06] <smurphy> c0nvict: Copied /etc/config-blabla to /usr/src/linux/.config - and ran make oldconfig - enabled all, and ran make-kpgk blabla
[03:06] <anne> hi
[03:07] <VSpike> c0nv1ct: it won't let me select the key there either - same behaviour.  Out of the keys in my list, the only one it would let me select would be my own.  It must be something to do with trust, I think, but I only have a nebulous understanding of how that works
[03:07] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: hmm, i had trouble using an old config, and had to manually enable a few things
[03:07] <VSpike> c0nv1ct: in kgpg the only key with a green "trust" box is mine
[03:07] <c0nv1ct> smurphy: but my config was from a 2.6.17 kernel
[03:08] <smurphy> yes - but the make-kpkg asked for missing stuff ...
[03:08] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: couldn't say. never used it.
[03:08] <c0nv1ct> VSpike: in kgpg, right click and edit, and select trusted in the dropdown box
[03:08] <BluesKaj> sudo cp /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:09] <VSpike> c0nv1ct: it won't let me change "Trust", but it will let me change "Owner Trust".  I currently have it set at "Fully", but it makes no difference to the trust status of the key
[03:09] <VSpike> c0nv1ct: ah ok, if I change it to "ultimate" then trust goes green.  So what does it all mean?
[03:09] <c0nv1ct> VSpike: try "Ultimately"
[03:10] <c0nv1ct> VSpike: i'm not sure on the exact meanings of each of those
[03:11] <VSpike> I've just never managed to get my head around it.  All the info I've found is either too fine detail or not detailed enough.
[03:11] <james_> ello
[03:11] <james_> anyone here
[03:13] <smurphy> ah - it's a known issue ... So I leave it there...
[03:13] <BluesKaj> waylandbill:  the command is cd /etc/X11 for the back up list
[03:14] <james_> how do I stop my X server. I'm trying to install Beryl and the command they give me to stop it doesn't work
[03:14] <c0nv1ct> james_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop or kdm stop
[03:14] <soulrider> james_: when i installed beryl, i didnt have to stop it =/
[03:14] <c0nv1ct> soulrider: if he is installing new drivers, he will need to :)
[03:14] <james_> I was using sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and it didn't work
[03:15] <c0nv1ct> james_: if you installed kubuntu, its kdm
[03:15] <james_> ok
[03:15] <james_> I did
[03:15] <james_> I'll go try that now
[03:16] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: oh. I didn't know you wanted to just know the directory they were stored in. :)
[03:17] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: but yes, they'll be stored in the same dir as the xorg.conf.
[03:17] <omeil_> hi how do i make java work on Konqueror?
[03:17] <VSpike> The other odd thing is that it won't show me the message content in "sent mail".  It says "Encrypted data not shown". Then "Decryption not possible" "Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrpyt the data" "Error: bad passphrase"
[03:18] <VSpike> Strange as it has never asked me for a passphrase
[03:18] <c0nv1ct> VSpike: you need to enable the gpg agent, it will then prompt you for your passcode, 1 sec for link
[03:18] <c0nv1ct> VSpike: http://zerlinna.blogweb.de/archives/61-Get-GPG-Decryption-working-within-Kmail.html
[03:22] <VSpike> Thanks c0nv1ct
[03:22] <pixelation> There is a very simple command line command lol... it forces a one time fsck, does anyone know it.
[03:22] <c0nv1ct> np
[03:23] <c0nv1ct> pixelation: tune2fs?
[03:23] <pixelation> it's the same as the 30 day... but you can force it on reboot.
[03:23] <pixelation> what is tune3fs?
[03:23] <c0nv1ct> it manages the 30 mounts per check at boot
[03:23] <pixelation> oh great, I'll check it out.
[03:24] <frectomex> who know how to install a LEADTEK DTV 2000 H
[03:25] <smurphy_> *lol* My different nicks mismatch :)
[03:25] <pixelation> I don't understand it :(... it's hilarious how I get around pretty savy on Kubuntu... but I'm really new to bash :-P
[03:26] <pixelation> oh is it -interval d/w/m
[03:26] <BluesKaj> ok, i have the X11 file date that i want to go back to ..what's the command to make it work ?
[03:26] <VSpike> pixelation: there's always more to know :)
[03:26] <pixelation> yes, I would be so screwed if I messed up this system.
[03:27] <pixelation> tune2fs -[d]             <--------------
[03:27] <pixelation> ???
[03:27] <pixelation> no
[03:27] <pixelation> lol
[03:27] <c0nv1ct> pixelation: you read the man pages?
[03:28] <pixelation> I don't read, cause I have really bad ADD, so I listen to audio books and stuff. :-/
[03:28] <pixelation> or I just learn by messing around.
[03:28] <pixelation> but this system CANNOT be damaged lol
[03:28] <c0nv1ct> learning by messing around is good, if you dont mind learning how to fix the stuff you break too :P
[03:30] <pixelation> haha, true, I mean, people that are good with computers, most of the time just mess around with them... for 8 hours a day, like me LOL
[03:30] <demiurge> I'm still at a loss on my earlier question but I think I have made the question more simple.  How in kde can I create a new file of a given type be it I want to create a folder, a block device or in my case a media folder of mime-type media/hdd_mounter?
[03:30] <BluesKaj> c'mon you experts, how do i enable a backup xorg.conf file ?
[03:30] <c0nv1ct> pixelation: thats how i am too, but since I've started using VMware, i dont get so mad when i break stuff :)
[03:30] <demiurge> BluesKaj: Enable or create?
[03:30] <pixelation> mv xorg.conf xorg.conf_backup
[03:30] <pixelation> in the same dir.
[03:31] <pixelation> or ...
[03:31] <pixelation> something lol... that wouldn't work
[03:31] <BluesKaj> enable, i have the file in my list /etc/X11 list, demiurge
[03:31] <pixelation> cp (copy maybe) to your desktop rename it.
[03:31] <pixelation> then stick the back up file back in the dir.
[03:31] <c0nv1ct> BluesKaj: yeah, just make a copy of it, and change the name
[03:31] <smurphy_> Hmmm. Anyone knows how I get access to the sources of the linux restricted modules ???
[03:32] <c0nv1ct> BluesKaj: whenever you edit a system conf file, copy it to whatever.conf.bak or something
[03:32] <BluesKaj> I'm not in X , I'm a the tty prompt
[03:32] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to get X to work
[03:32] <c0nv1ct> BluesKaj: use the 'cp' command then
[03:32] <demiurge> BluesKaj: If you want to create a back up I would sudo cp /etc/x11/xorg.conf /etc/x11/xorg.conf.bak, if you want to restore a backup, it's about the same sudo cp /etc/x11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[03:33] <wouterh> hi, I am having troubles with http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124684 at directnet.dexia.be, is the patch removed from the kubuntu packages again?
[03:33] <demiurge> BluesKaj: After you have the file you want to test in place, just type kdm and see what happens.
[03:36] <demiurge> Why is it my questions always get reactions like I'm taking crazy pills...  :%
[03:36] <c0nv1ct> you question answers itself :P
[03:36] <pixelation> what is the command to make a file
[03:36] <c0nv1ct> pixelation: touch
[03:36] <pixelation> lol nooobalicious.
[03:36] <pixelation> ok thx
[03:36] <pixelation> :)
[03:37] <demiurge> pixelation: What kind of file?
[03:37] <pixelation> can I just paste this very short tutorial, like no longer than a paragraph?
[03:37] <c0nv1ct> use a pastebin
[03:37] <pixelation> k
[03:43] <pixelation> I think I figured it out, I'll be back if I'm wrong. :),... I have like a half backup of my system... I'm goin' for it! wish me luck :-P
[03:45] <enry> hi!
[03:47] <jarle> Adept tells me: "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem." But I can't seem to find apt-setup on my kubuntu system?
[03:47] <Jucato> !adeptfix | jarle
[03:48] <ubotu> jarle: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:48] <makallius> d
[03:48] <jarle> thnx..
[03:48] <makallius> #ubuntu.it
[03:48] <c0nv1ct> jarle: when it says to run it in a terminal, you arent supposed to look in the menus :)
[03:49] <jarle> c0nv1ct: :) apt-setup is not installed on my system...
[03:50] <c0nv1ct> they may mean apt-config
[03:50] <jarle> c0nv1ct: THAT I have installed...
[03:50] <dromer> ok wtf, I just installed kiba-dock from this .deb and it's awefully buggie :S http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Edgy/kiba-dock_1.0-1_i386.deb
[03:51] <jarle> The tip from ubotu did not solve it...
[03:51] <c0nv1ct> jarle: do you get errors when doing apt-get update ?
[03:51] <Jucato> jarle: you have Adept closed when you ran those commands right?
[03:52] <jarle> c0nv1ct: E: Malformed line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[03:52] <jarle> better have a look there...
[03:52] <jarle> guess Adept has corrupted it...
[03:52] <c0nv1ct> jarle: ah, your sources.list is broken, check what line 3 says
[03:52] <jarle> Jucato: jepp...
[03:53] <coreymon77> jarle: are you using edgy?
[03:53] <coreymon77> jarle: because if you are, i can give you my sources.list, which is fully working
[03:54] <jarle> coreymon77: yes, was just trying to update to the proposed kubuntu
[03:54] <coreymon77> jarle: oh, yo are trying to update to edgy
[03:54] <coreymon77> jarle: okay then
[03:55] <coreymon77> jarle: here you go, this is my sources.list http://pastebin.ca/389816
[03:55] <coreymon77> replace yours with that
[03:55] <coreymon77> jarle: and then run sudo apt-get update
[03:55] <omeil> Can anyone here run runescape with konqueror?
[03:55] <jarle> seems to be working now after fixing a error in the sources.list
[03:55] <coreymon77> jarle: what was the error?
[03:56] <coreymon77> jarle: does yours have the kde 3.5.6 repos on it too?
[03:56] <jarle> coreymon77: deb http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/dapper/legacy/32bit binary/
[03:56] <jarle> just commented that out...
[03:56] <coreymon77> jarle: umm, if you want to upgrade to edgy, all of your repos have to be edgy ones
[03:57] <coreymon77> jarle: that is a dapper repo
[03:58] <jarle> coreymon77: only edgy left now...
[03:58] <coreymon77> jarle: can you put your sources.list on pastebin, just to make sure you have everything you should have
[03:58] <PoSHi> hi people
[03:59] <coreymon77> PoSHi: hi
[04:00] <PoSHi> hi coreymon
[04:00] <gnomefreak> dromer: its a known upstream issue i will rebuild as soon as i hear back about the bugs
[04:00] <PoSHi> i'm from the live cd, amazing, one cd, and after 4 minutes, i'm chatting here
[04:00] <jarle> coreymon77: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10487/
[04:01] <coreymon77> PoSHi: i know, incredible aint it?
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> certainly something that OTHER os doesn't have - a nice little try before you commit to something :)
[04:02] <coreymon77> jarle: okay, i have a few things to update for your sources.list
[04:02] <PoSHi> anyone knows how can i try xgl, not... aiglx? whit kubuntu?
[04:02] <jarle> coreymon77: I'm good to go to do the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade?
[04:02] <coreymon77> jarle: wait a sec
[04:03] <coreymon77> jarle: first, you need to change a few things
[04:03] <jarle> console: oki...
[04:03] <jarle> coreymon77: oki :)
[04:03] <dromer> gnomefreak: ok, letme give you a screenshot of what I have atm
[04:03] <coreymon77> jarle: for one thing, the kde repo at the top of your list
[04:03] <coreymon77> jarle: change it from 355 to 356
[04:03] <gnomefreak> dromer: k
[04:03] <php-freak> any one know of palces where I can support open source software, and they show my link on there site showing my company supported them?
[04:04] <jarle> coreymon77: done..
[04:04] <Daisuke_Ido> using the live cd, i don't know exactly how you'd go about trying beryl/compiz, or even if you can, since it requires direct rendering, something that i believe only the binary drivers provide.  i could be wrong
[04:04] <manchicken> php-freak: http://fsf.org has some sponsorship stuff.
[04:04] <php-freak> cool
[04:04] <coreymon77> jarle: next, enable the security universe repos at the bottom
[04:05] <PoSHi> yes... but i ve understand that... whit aigl you can emulate that
[04:05] <coreymon77> jarle: not really sure why they would be disabled
[04:05] <jarle> coreymon77: me neither (thnx for your help BTW...
[04:05] <coreymon77> jarle: now a question, do you want the backports repos enabled?
[04:06] <Daisuke_Ido> i hadn't heard that
[04:06] <dromer> gnomefreak, this is what it looks like now http://alic.zapto.org/~dreamer/kiba-dock.png
[04:06] <coreymon77> jarle: because if you do, enable them, but if you dont want to you dont have to
[04:07] <jarle> coreymon77: which applications would that include?
[04:07] <coreymon77> jarle: and for the sercurity universe, did you enable both the deb and deb-src repos
[04:07] <jarle> coreymon77: I did..
[04:07] <gnomefreak> dromer: does it do that everytime you use it?
[04:07] <dromer> yes
[04:07] <dromer> I followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268645&page=1
[04:07] <gnomefreak> dromer: ok will look into it when i get home mondayish
[04:07] <coreymon77> jarle: its more like newer but possibly a little buggy versions of programs
[04:08] <coreymon77> jarle: its safe though
[04:08] <coreymon77> jarle: what every you want
[04:08] <gnomefreak> dromer: you built it from cvs?
[04:08] <dromer> oh wait, no
[04:08] <dromer> I did do the remove and install from the guide though
[04:08] <gnomefreak> or from my site?
[04:08] <coreymon77> jarle: now, after enabling any repos you want to, save your sources.list file and run sudo apt-get update
[04:08] <coreymon77> jarle: then you are good to go
[04:08] <dromer> but then I had tu use the .deb on your site
[04:09] <dromer> I tried the .deb before the updates first and it didn't work either then
[04:09] <gnomefreak> dromer: edgy?
[04:09] <dromer> yes
[04:09] <dromer> just upgraded last night :)
[04:09] <dromer> trying beryl and now kiba
[04:10] <gnomefreak> dromer: did you try it before the beryl updates?
[04:10] <dromer> no
[04:10] <gnomefreak> it was working fine here i havent checked in a week or so
[04:10] <dromer> just thought of it now
[04:10] <dromer> hm ok
[04:10] <jarle> coreymon77: Thnx for your help, seems to be working fine, gotta finish the update later tonight..
[04:10] <coreymon77> jarle: great
[04:10] <gnomefreak> i have a feeling that the updates from beryl did something and maybe a quick rebuild will help but i will find out
[04:11] <coreymon77> jarle: so everythings good now?
[04:11] <dromer> gnomefreak: hope it works out, I'd like something nice to go with my kde beryl ;)
[04:11] <coreymon77> jarle: well, i have to go
[04:11] <coreymon77> jarle: hope you like edgy :D
[04:11] <gnomefreak> dromer: i will have pricechild update the sticky when im done with it
[04:11] <dromer> thnx
[04:14] <acetoxy> How long does it usually take for packages to be updated to new versions of software?
[04:14] <acetoxy> Ruby 1.8.6 was released this monday. :)
[04:15] <c0nv1ct> acetoxy: compile it from source :)
[04:15] <acetoxy> I feel more comfortable installing it as an Ubuntu-package. :)
[04:19] <smurphy_> OK - had to compile the svn-version of the madwifi drives for kernel 2.6.20.3 ... *grumbl*
[04:20] <wouterh> acetoxy: since the version freeze for feisty is already passed, i guess the new ruby version will not be available before the ubuntu release after feisty
[04:21] <acetoxy> wouterh: Hm, :/
[04:21] <BluesKaj> I wonder why X won't accept my monitor's native resolution 1280x960...it's permanently commented out in /etc/X11/xorg.conf...yet the option is there in xorg.conf xserver-xorg ...any ideas?
[04:22] <wouterh> acetoxy: maybe it will be available in feisty-backports earlier ...
[04:23] <acetoxy> I hope so. :)
[04:23] <omeil> can any kubuntu people here run runescape on konqueror?
[04:24] <Knightlust> omeil: im running runescape on Firefox
[04:25] <Knightlust> haven't tried it out on Konqueror though
[04:25] <Jucato> :D
[04:25] <Knightlust> coz i really love firefox
[04:25] <Knightlust> runs+escapes
[04:25] <Knightlust> hehe
[04:26] <omeil> lol
[04:26] <Jucato> :D
[04:27] <omeil> its just that i noticed there is only a Java runescape client for linux so i though i should write one in VB for Unix systems but...konqueror is my only usable web browser and im having a hard time running java in it
[04:29] <omeil> Knightlust: can u try runescape in konqueror?
[04:30] <iarwain> hi there, does anyone know where i can learn some C ?
[04:30] <iarwain> or what programs i need?
[04:30] <Knightlust> omeil: i'll try it out later. im on my herd5 partition and will take me about 20mins to install java
[04:30] <waylandbill> Jucato: if (runs&&escapes) { firefox(); }
[04:31] <omeil> ah ok :D
[04:31] <Knightlust> ill try it out right after i boot back to my main partition with java
[04:31] <Knightlust> wait, i'll try it out now.. but let me first download Java ok?
[04:31] <Jucato> waylandbill: actually: if (firefox()) runs_and_escapes();
[04:31] <waylandbill> :)
[04:32] <iarwain> hi there, does anyone know where i can learn some C ? Or what programs i need?
[04:32] <Jucato> iarwain: #ubuntu-programming or ##c
[04:32] <iarwain> jucato, thanks!
[04:32] <waylandbill> omeil: i've used runescape on konq in the past, but I think one java I used worked and the other didn't.
[04:33] <waylandbill> there's an #ubuntu-programming? hmm.
[04:33] <omeil> waylandbill: seems like konq is fussy
[04:33] <Jucato> waylandbill: new one
[04:34] <esaym> in amarok, what is the difference between "sync to media device" and "transfer to media device"
[04:36] <c0nv1ct> well, sync would syncronize, and transfer would transfer only
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> kiba looks nice, but seems such a hassle, especially with kde
[04:37] <esaym> c0nv1ct:  errm I still don't get it
[04:37] <c0nv1ct> i found kiba to be annoying
[04:37] <omeil> can't seem to get runescape working on my client :(
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: funny, because the physics engine underlying kiba is akamaru :D
[04:38] <Jucato> I know :)
[04:38] <c0nv1ct> esaym: to syncronize would only transfer what is missing on the device, compared to what is currently selected
[04:38] <Jucato> I mean, pretty obvious where he got the name from :D
[04:38] <c0nv1ct> esaym: to transfer, would just transfer everything
[04:38] <Jucato> but as I'm not a fan of docks...
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> a little obvious, yeah
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i *like* docks.  i just don't like that one
[04:38] <esaym> well actually, I made a playlist in amarok, the files in the playlist already on the media device.  I just want to add the playlist to the media device (ipod)
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> even with beryl, it's TOO much.
[04:39] <esaym> Oh so it looks like sync would do the trick?
[04:39] <LL_Hakaisou> !ati
[04:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:40] <funpop> can k3b burn with several recorders at the same time ?
[04:41] <esaym> ah sync got it.  Thank you c0nv1ct
[04:42] <Jucato> omeil: have you installed sun-java6-bin? (that's the one Konqueror uses, not the -plugin)
[04:43] <omeil> that i haven't
[04:43] <omeil> Jucato: u have konq with java6?
[04:43] <Knightlust> ayt, probably thats the reason why runscape wont work in konq
[04:43] <Jucato> so how do you know that konq isn't liking java at all? :D
[04:44] <Jucato> yes I have. want me to test a page or something?
[04:44] <omeil> na i need to send u a client over :) and see if it works through it
[04:44] <LL_Hakaisou> does anyone what progress has been made (if any) for an open source driver for the X1800?
[04:45] <LL_Hakaisou> video card i mean
[04:45] <Knightlust> what the! i cant install java on my herd5
[04:46] <LL_Hakaisou> wtf... i got no sound!
[04:46] <LL_Hakaisou> !sound
[04:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:52] <_al_> hello
[04:56] <Vajk> hi all
[04:58] <Vajk> is there any shortcut for changing the keyboard layout (languages) ?
[04:59] <Jucato> Vajk: you can set it up yourself in System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:01] <dromer> mm, I just got a message from firefox to update the dutch dictionary, but it says it's not compatible with 2.0.0.2. and it will only take 2.0.0.* to 3.0a1
[05:01] <dromer> is it the added . in 2.0.0.2. Z
[05:01] <dromer> ?
[05:05] <compilerwriter> I am running my kubuntu box via XDCMP from my windows box.  I think I should be able to do that from more than one computer at a time, but I am not sure.  Can I get away with it provided I have the memory and cpu power?
[05:05] <Vajk> I had a small icon on my bar, somehow I made it dissappear, I may have delete the keyboard languages too, can you pls tell me how to add a new language fo the keyboard
[05:06] <Jucato> Vajk: what was that small icon for? and to add a new language: System Settings -> Regional and Language -> Keyboard Layouts
[05:07] <omeil> http://files-upload.com/131473/UnixScape.tar.bz2.html can someone test if tha tworks only 5 kb :D
[05:07] <Vajk> for the keyboard layout change (country flag)
[05:07] <Jucato> Vajk: that disappears if you only have one keyboard layout setup
[05:08] <james__> question: I'm trying to install Beryl. When I ran the command to shut down the X server it shut down I think, but I was left with nothing...not even a functioning command prompt
[05:08] <james__> I could shoot commands at it, but it didn't do anything
[05:09] <chino> does the live cd have x11vnc installed ?
[05:09] <Jucato> james__: did you try pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 again to return you to the command prompt?
[05:09] <compilerwriter> james__ I am told that beryl is not yet ready for the inexperienced.  Have you tried rebooting?
[05:10] <compilerwriter> We have a Harry Potter fan in the house.
[05:10] <omeil> i usually Ctrl+Alt+F1 then sudo reboot if that hapens
[05:10] <james__> I didn't try rebooting or hitting ctr+alt F1...and yeah I'm pretty inexperienced..so I might just leave it alone
[05:11] <james__> whats something to try out to help me get used to/learn linux
[05:11] <|TheSpun|> hey all, hoping someone might be able to shed some light on my problems :) finally managed to get the live cd to boot by adding pnpbios=off acpi=force to the bootcommand, installed, and now back to getting a kernel panic error
[05:11] <Jucato> !beryl | james__
[05:11] <ubotu> james__: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:11] <jose__> alguien que me pase a un enlace del chat en espaol
[05:11] <omeil> james__: hows your gaming?
[05:11] <compilerwriter> Jucato thanks for further explaining my suggestion.
[05:11] <james__> gaming?
[05:11] <jose__> espaol
[05:11] <Jucato> !es | jose__
[05:11] <ubotu> jose__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:11] <jhutchins> james__: http://tldp.org
[05:12] <omeil> james__: hmm you must be a different james :) i talked to the james that liked the GG client? is that you?
[05:12] <Tigerman> this might be a silly question, but here goes.. I have been running RedHat with Kerio Mailserver.. Is there anything similar to kerio that run on kubuntu? (Preferrably free, of course)
[05:12] <james__> nope
[05:12] <james__> GG?
[05:12] <test_> dose any one eles have probls with wine on ubuntu 64?
[05:12] <jhutchins> Tigerman: Never heard of kerio, I'm familiar with postfix and sendmail.
[05:12] <omeil> james__: some gaming client :)
[05:12] <james__> ah
[05:13] <c0nv1ct> test_: i was able to get some things to work in wine with 64bit
[05:13] <compilerwriter> Hey Jucato I should be able to xdcmp more than one xsession at a time should I not?
[05:13] <test_> i tryed to install it but i haveing probs. but im a newbe to linux so i dont know if it's me
[05:13] <Jucato> compilerwriter: no clue :)
[05:13] <Tigerman> jhutchins: lets just say that installing the kerio rpm removed all the manual labour of postfix/sendmail :p
[05:13] <c0nv1ct> test_: if you are new to linux, i wouldnt suggest using the 64bit version, it requires a bit more work
[05:13] <jhutchins> Tigerman: There are some groupware projects as well, but I'm not too familiar with them.
[05:14] <Knightlust> !pastebin
[05:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:14] <jhutchins> Tigerman: If there's an rpm available there should be a deb, or at the very least you could use alien to install it.
[05:14] <compilerwriter> ok.  Guess I will just give it a shotl.
[05:14] <test_> well i was able to install it fine. just cant get wine to work.
[05:14] <compilerwriter> s/shtol/shot
[05:14] <c0nv1ct> test_: installing isnt hard, its getting some things to work is that hard part
[05:14] <|TheSpun|> i'm pretty sure my problem is with my new msi mobo
[05:14] <test_> is suse better
[05:15] <test_> or gentoo?
[05:15] <Tigerman> jhutchins: mkay.. But I think kerio got greedy and want money for it as well now.. (or did I even buy a license??)
[05:15] <c0nv1ct> test_: 64bit is 64bit, i dont think a different distro will make things any different
[05:16] <jhutchins> Interesting, the only versions of RedHat they support are obsolete and unsupported.
[05:16] <c0nv1ct> test_: unless you really need to run a 64bit OS, i sugguest you use 32bit to make your experience much less frustrating
[05:16] <jhutchins> ... for Fedora anyway.
[05:16] <jhutchins> Tigerman: If they've licensed an Outlook/Exchange connector they'll have to charge money for it.
[05:17] <MarcC_> how do I suppress the splash screen on boot so I can see console messages? is there a key to press that does this?
[05:17] <|TheSpun|> anybody able to offer any suggestions?
[05:17] <jhutchins> Tigerman: Novell was supposedly working on an Open Groupware product - if you can put up with Novell.
[05:17] <Tigerman> hmmms
[05:18] <Vajk> I can't see any keyboard layouts in Configure and the keyboard model is blank
[05:18] <jhutchins> Tigerman:  Zimbra, Kolab, Hula, Open Xchange and OpenGroupware,
[05:19] <jhutchins> Tigerman: google open source groupware
[05:19] <czester> Hello, maybe here...
[05:19] <Tigerman> thanks, i will
[05:19] <czester> I need ubuntu not to lock screen on resume. I'm using KDE
[05:20] <czester> Is this possible?
[05:20] <jhutchins> Tigerman: If you just need mail though, postfix is pretty easy, although sendmail's easy for me, add squirrelmail for web access, set up an ical server.
[05:20] <c0nv1ct> czester: right click desktop, click configure desktop, select screensaver, uncheck "require password to stop"
[05:20] <Tigerman> jhutchins: basically i need a working pop3/smtp mail server with as many accounts as i wish to set up :p
[05:20] <czester> c0nv1ct: In KDE?
[05:20] <james__> question: i'm going through the Kubuntu Guide thing and its talking about games from the Universe Repository. I enabled the repository, but it doesn't give instructions on how to install the games after that
[05:21] <|TheSpun|> i've now decided i hate upgrading my hardware heh
[05:21] <c0nv1ct> czester: if you are talking about locking after the screensaver, yes
[05:21] <czester> c0nv1ct: After suspend
[05:21] <test_> c0nv1ct: wich is the best to use 32bit to use where you can change the shell (like kde i think) eazy. im used to microsoft. and a new be in linux so i get lost eazy
[05:21] <jhutchins> Tigerman: Postfix is easier to do virtual mail with, dovecot is becoming the standard pop server (it's a bitch to set up though).
[05:21] <czester> c0nv1ct: I don't use screensaver.
[05:21] <jhutchins> Tigerman: You should be aware of #ubuntu-server, although it's low traffic.
[05:21] <c0nv1ct> test_: i dont understand what you are asking
[05:22] <czester> c0nv1ct: I turn my machine to sleep. Then after resume screen is locked with password
[05:22] <Tigerman> hmm.. ill try that chan too :)
[05:22] <c0nv1ct> czester: i'm not sure where to set that
[05:22] <test_> what type of liunx is eazys to change the shell (kde skins)  like in windows  it would be windows blinds
[05:23] <czester> c0nv1ct: I've tried /etc/default/acpi-support but it doesn't give any results
[05:23] <czester> # LOCK_SCREEN=true
[05:23] <czester> I got this commented out but it still locks the screen
[05:24] <c0nv1ct> czester: have you tried setting it to false instead of commenting it out?
[05:24] <czester> c0nv1ct: Yep, still nothing
[05:26] <c0nv1ct> czester: i'm not sure, i dont use the sleep/hibernate feature, and if i did, i'd want it to lock anyway :)
[05:26] <grothesk> Hi!
[05:26] <czester> c0nv1ct: It's like noone else uses my computer and it's faster than boot
[05:27] <grothesk> Where is the alsa config file located in kubuntu?
[05:27] <grothesk> I need the equivalent to suses /etc/modprobe.d/sound
[05:28] <c0nv1ct> czester: i dont even turn mine off :)
[05:29] <czester> c0nv1ct: I have to make it look not running ;-)
[05:29] <austrojedi> is it possible to change the alignment of the close/maximize/minimize-buttons?
[05:29] <space_ninja> how do I get the menu back in konversation irc client
[05:29] <Jucato> austrojedi: System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations -> Buttons tab (the tab at the top)
[05:29] <Jucato> space_ninja: Ctrl+M
[05:30] <austrojedi> jucato: thanks
[05:30] <space_ninja> thanks
[05:31] <Jucato> :)
[05:32] <spark_> hi everyone
[05:37] <heyu> list *ubuntu*
[05:37] <heyu> list
[05:42] <allen84us> how to set default email client at kubuntu ?
[05:43] <allen84us> anyone exp this b4 ?
[05:43] <allen84us> i prefer my thunderbird as my default client
[05:43] <allen84us> but the kmail keep on appearing
[05:44] <allen84us> how to set default email client at kubuntu ?
[05:46] <_al_> someone using 64-bit kubuntu and skype?
[05:47] <_eMaX_> why is it that a printer that I configure with kdeprint is not visible via lpq; or else if I have a printer that I create using kdeprint, how can I print to it from the command line equivalent to lpr -p queuename?
[05:51] <dromer> how can I make beryl-manager autostart?
[05:52] <fdoving> !autostart | dromer
[05:52] <ubotu> dromer: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:53] <dromer> ah, yes I found how to do it already, didn't work before (dragging from the kmune into ~/.kde/Autostart )
[05:54] <steveire> I think my kde locale may be set to en_US how do I check/set it to en.GB?
[05:55] <spark_> hi evryone
[05:57] <spark_> hmhm anyone has a clue about how to configure alsa to send a 5.1 signal?
[06:06] <bxnp> guys i have a kubuntu live cd, i want to use it and put my home dir on a usb stick is that possible
[06:06] <bxnp> so that i have all my documents and settings when i boot from the kubuntu live cd
[06:07] <spark_> i know (form knoppix) that it IS possible. but please don't me ask how. sry
[06:08] <stdin> bxnp: do you just want a copy of your home dir, or do you want to move it?
[06:09] <bxnp> stdin: i am now on a live cd, but when i reboot its forgets my settings
[06:09] <bxnp> so i was wondering if i can put the home dir on my usb stick
[06:09] <bxnp> this leaves allso some space in my ram
[06:09] <stdin> bxnp: ahh, I think you can, let me just digg up the page for that
[06:09] <bxnp> cool,
[06:10] <bxnp> i need this sollution becuase my hd broke down, and it will be a week orso before i buy a new one
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> bxnp,  I would have though all you need to do is modify your fstab & make sure your usb stick is connected on boot up
[06:10] <BluesKaj> bxnp, how much ram will you save
[06:11] <TheGateKeeper> !fstab
[06:11] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:11] <bxnp> well everything that it loads in into ram for the settings
[06:12] <bxnp> yes but in the fstab of the live cd home is not a different partition
[06:12] <stdin> bxnp: how big is the usb drive?
[06:12] <bxnp> my drive is 512
[06:12] <bxnp> but i will dedicate something like 128 mb to the home dir, just enough to have my most important docs and settings
[06:14] <stdin> bxnp: here you go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[06:15] <bxnp> cool let me dive into it
[06:16] <stdin> bxnp: the page talks about 6.06, but it may work on 6.10 (and newer) too
[06:17] <bxnp> yes i figured that
[06:17] <bxnp> thanks
[06:23] <Vajk> I must have screwed really bad my keyboard language settings, when I try to add a new language on the Configuration Panel everything's blank
[06:23] <Vajk> I can't see any languages as I see in the help file
[06:24] <Vajk> any of you knows a solution for it ?
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> Vajk: I think you can run console-setup from inside a shell to setup your languages. Otherwize maybe it's a locales issue.
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> !locales
[06:28] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[06:28] <Vajk> thanks, I'll try that
[06:28] <ScribbleJ> Not sure this is the right place to ask; I installed xubuntu via debootstrap, then installed konqueror using apt, and my "tools" menu is blank.  Any idea how to fix that?
[06:29] <ScribbleJ> I figure #kubuntu because it's konqueror...
[06:30] <BluesKaj> kubuntu is kde desktop
[06:31] <BluesKaj> ScribbleJ,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:31] <ScribbleJ> I bet that would fix it, Blues, but I was hoping for something a little more specific.
[06:32] <BluesKaj> which 'tools" are you referring to ScribbleJ ?
[06:32] <ScribbleJ> In Konqueror, when surfing the web, there's a "tools" menu, and under it, an option to change the browser identification.
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> ScribbleJ: maybe they are part of konq-plugins ?
[06:33] <soulrider> hi everyone
[06:33] <ScribbleJ> LeeJunFan - I will try that package, thanks.
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> ScribbleJ: yeah, that looks like the one.
[06:36] <ScribbleJ> LeeJunFan, you were correct.  Thank you.
[06:36] <BluesKaj> whynot just use the browser you want konq to ID as ?
[06:37] <LeeJunFan> ScribbleJ: don't forget to install your language pack when installing from debootstrap so you don't get those annoying locale messages from dpkg/apt too :)
[06:37] <ScribbleJ> Oh boy, tell me about it.
[06:37] <ScribbleJ> I could have used that advice a month ago when I did it.
[06:37] <ScribbleJ> I've been missing my tools for a while. :)
[06:37] <ScribbleJ> I figured out the language one on my own though.
[06:38] <LeeJunFan> haha! Yeah, I do debootstrap installs a lot for our library. It's all thick client / NFS, lots of "fun" stuff to learn when doing it that way.
[06:39] <ScribbleJ> Yeah... I like debootstrap -- very helpful in certain situations.  I also use it for setting up Xen VMs and creating ISO or USB installs.
[06:39] <ScribbleJ> In this case though I just wanted to update to edgy without losing my dapper install.
[06:45] <amaanr> how do i do a sudo command in kubuntu
[06:45] <c0nv1ct> kdesu for the GUI
[06:45] <ScribbleJ> Open a terminal?
[06:45] <abattoir> amaanr: 'sudo command' :)
[06:45] <c0nv1ct> or sudo works in a terminal
[06:45] <abattoir> amaanr: same as in ubuntu(i'm presuming) for kde apps of course, 'kdesu app'
[06:45] <amaanr> i tried it said invalid command
[06:46] <c0nv1ct> i'm having trouble with the 'sensors' command, all i get is "General parse error" and i followed the howto to get it working :\
[06:46] <abattoir> amaanr: which command are you trying to use sudo with?
[06:46] <ScribbleJ> amaanr, what exactly are you trying to do?  Maybe you mistyped something?
[06:46] <amaanr> sudo kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/options
[06:46] <amaanr> im trying to edit that file
[06:46] <abattoir> amaanr: aah, remove sudo there
[06:46] <ScribbleJ> :)
[06:47] <amaanr> oh ok let me try
[06:47] <abattoir> amaanr: kdesu is pretty much sudo for kde apps
[06:47] <c0nv1ct> yeah, kdesu does the same as sudo, you dont need to use them both
[06:47] <ScribbleJ> Either kdesu or sudo, not both.
[06:47] <abattoir> amaanr: just like gksudo is for gnome(i think)
[06:47] <amaanr> oh i see
[06:47] <amaanr> thank you it worked :)
[06:47] <abattoir> :)
[06:50] <jhutchins> !sudo
[06:50] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:50] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[06:50] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:50] <jhutchins> We need an op to add the gui warning to !sudo
[06:51] <stdin> jhutchins: you can add it, then it will be sent to #ubutnu-ops for review
[06:51] <stdin> jhutchins: or just ask in #ubuntu-ops
[06:51] <jhutchins> stdin: Thank you.
[07:08] <amaanr> how do i set startup apps (beryl) on kubuntu?
[07:08] <stdin> !autostart
[07:08] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:09] <amaanr> how do i get to that?
[07:09] <stdin> amaanr: get to what?
[07:09] <amaanr> ~.kde/Autostart
[07:10] <stdin> amaanr: just type "~/.kde/Autostart" in konqueror (~/ means your home directory, so the directory is .kde/Autostart in your home dir)
[07:12] <amaanr> stdin, so i just copy and paste the app in that dir?
[07:13] <stdin> amaanr: just make a link, right click, choose create new... -> Link to application...
[07:14] <amaanr> stdin, thanks
[07:14] <stdin> you're welcome
[07:18] <ar> Anyone knows the entry  @ sources to install xorg-dev ?
[07:18] <stdin> ar: it's in main
[07:21] <ar> stdin, hmm strange i cant get it with apt.
[07:22] <stdin> ar: check your sources, it's definitely in main
[07:23] <ar> ok, i will do. did you know the source entry for xorg-dev - so that i can add it, if its not in the sources.list ?
[07:25] <PupenoR> Hello.
[07:26] <stdin> ar: it'll be something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main" (replace xx with your country code, and replace edgy for your version if not using edgy)
[07:29] <ar> ok many thanx for the help, now i got some things to search.
[07:35] <frojnd> hello guys... I have problem! I have running 2 apaches, how can I only to have running one? can someone help me
[07:36] <stdin> frojnd: is it apache and apache2 by any chance?
[07:36] <frojnd> stdin: yes
[07:37] <|waylandbill|> I've found that the init script for apache doesn't get removed.
[07:37] <frojnd> couse I have installed 2 apaches, 1)xampp with wine 2)apache with apt-get install apache...
[07:37] <stdin> frojnd: just remove one of them to stop that, you can just do "sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop" in the meantime (to stop apache and leave apache2)
[07:41] <|TheSpun|> hey all, hoping someone might be able to shed some light on my problems :) finally managed to get the live cd to boot by adding pnpbios=off acpi=force to the bootcommand, installed, and now back to getting a kernel panic error
[07:42] <stdin> |TheSpun|: are the same options in your installed /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:42] <stdin> whois |TheSpun|
[07:43] <soulrider> |TheSpun|: no idea, i never had any problems witht he live CD, i have a couple of suggestions though
[07:43] <|TheSpun|> stdin: i have no clue, pretty new to linux
[07:43] <soulrider> |TheSpun|: maybe you could ty installing from the alternate CD
[07:43] <soulrider> |TheSpun|: youre installing right?
[07:43] <soulrider> ir did you compile your own kernel ?
[07:43] <|TheSpun|> tried that as well soulrider, same errror :)
[07:43] <|TheSpun|> and yes i am installing
[07:43] <soulrider> oh
[07:43] <soulrider> uhm
[07:43] <soulrider> well what i would try
[07:44] <soulrider> as horrible as it may sound
[07:44] <|TheSpun|> from what i can gather it relates to the mobo
[07:44] <soulrider> would be installing from windows :P
[07:44] <soulrider> i see
[07:44] <soulrider> but did you managed to get it installed?
[07:45] <|TheSpun|> i did yeah with those options in the bootcommand line, but it won't boot now, so guessing the answer to the earlier question is they're not in the boot list
[07:45] <soulrider> ahh
[07:45] <soulrider> i see, so kubuntu is in your HD you just cant boot
[07:45] <soulrider> its kinda easy to repair it actually i think
[07:45] <|TheSpun|> yup that's where i'm at
[07:46] <|TheSpun|> knoppix worked fine from the live cd, someone told me to try it last night as a test
[07:46] <soulrider> ahh ok, youre using the live CD now ?
[07:46] <|TheSpun|> nope this is my laptop
[07:46] <soulrider> ok
[07:46] <soulrider> what you need to do is this
[07:46] <soulrider> boot on that computer
[07:46] <soulrider> and edit the grub menu to add the option that helped you boot
[07:46] <soulrider> actually
[07:46] <soulrider> do you get to see grub?
[07:46] <|TheSpun|> yup
[07:47] <soulrider> ok
[07:47] <soulrider> press e to edit
[07:47] <soulrider> and add the option that allowed you to boot
[07:47] <soulrider> and then press b to boot
[07:47] <|TheSpun|> ok one sec let me reboot the desktop
[07:47] <soulrider> sure
[07:48] <|TheSpun|> ok hit e
[07:48] <soulrider> ok
[07:48] <soulrider> can you edit the first line ?
[07:48] <|TheSpun|> add those options to the kernel line?
[07:48] <soulrider> add it at the end
[07:48] <soulrider> and cross your fingers :P
[07:48] <|TheSpun|> lol
[07:48] <soulrider> after youre done editing
[07:48] <soulrider> press enter and then b to boot
[07:49] <|TheSpun|> hit boot
[07:49] <|TheSpun|> woot i have splash screen :)
[07:49] <soulrider> awesome!
[07:49] <soulrider> if it boots, were gonna make the changes permanent
[07:50] <|TheSpun|> cool. might be a stupid question, but is it worth getting updates as there's an updated kernel in the ones i'll need to download
[07:51] <soulrider> sure
[07:51] <soulrider> lets do this though
[07:51] <stdin> yeah, the updates are worth it, most are security updates
[07:51] <zeekstarr> can anyone explain how I can setup WPA-PSK on my kubuntu 6.10 laptop?
[07:51] <|TheSpun|> this is a reinstall as i got a new mobo+processor last night heh
[07:51] <soulrider> add that option and then update
[07:51] <|TheSpun|> ok
[07:51] <soulrider> because once it updates, its gonna break again
[07:51] <soulrider> |TheSpun|: open a console
[07:51] <|TheSpun|> k
[07:52] <soulrider> now type
[07:52] <soulrider> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:52] <stdin> zeekstarr: never done it myself, but look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[07:52] <|TheSpun|> k got that
[07:52] <zeekstarr> thanks stdin, looking now
[07:53] <soulrider> ok, now scroll down until you find the lines
[07:53] <soulrider> that allow you to boot
[07:53] <soulrider> |TheSpun|: ill be back in 30 seconds, hold on
[07:53] <|TheSpun|> all good
[07:54] <hellcattrav> hey all
[07:54] <hellcattrav> When I logged on i found the grub worked but the login, the screen didn't fit my display, I had to scroll to the edges to see all of my desktop. I have tried restarted X, that didn't work, after that I ran the X config in the command line, and then restarted, that also didn't work. At some point I also went into kmenu--> system settings--> monitor and display---> monitor 1, configure, but that again doesn't help.
[07:54] <hellcattrav> Everytime i logged out to restart X or typed in thecommand line, a black screen came up with an underscore blinking in theupper left hand corner. I then turned the laptop off my holding downthe power button, this occurred each time i tried to restart X, beforeit booted into the text based format.
[07:54] <hellcattrav> After doing the above, on boot once instead of the GUI, its a text based format, and I don't know:
[07:54] <hellcattrav> A)what I did,
[07:54] <hellcattrav> B)how I did it(holding the power button to turn it off perhaps?) and
[07:54] <hellcattrav> C) what do to now.
[07:55] <soulrider> |TheSpun|: did you find the lines you have to edit?
[07:55] <stdin> don't forget to edit the "# kopt=..." line too
[07:56] <|TheSpun|> yup i added them as well
[07:56] <soulrider> ok
[07:56] <soulrider> save and then update
[07:56] <soulrider> now, when you isntall a new kernel, it will not boot
[07:56] <soulrider> you will have to use an older kernel that will boot (since you justa dded the boot options)
[07:56] <|TheSpun|> so i have to boot in old one and do taht again right
[07:56] <soulrider> and then edit the grub list again to add the options to the new kernel
[07:56] <soulrider> yeah
[07:57] <|TheSpun|> cool :)
[07:57] <soulrider> you got the whole process?
[07:57] <|TheSpun|> yup
[07:57] <soulrider> theres allways someone here that can help you anyways
[07:57] <soulrider> awesome!
[07:57] <soulrider> good luck with your linux system :P
[07:57] <|TheSpun|> i'm getting my head round the whole kubuntu thing now... had been using it for about a month
[07:57] <|TheSpun|> but this whole issue with the new mobo completely lost me heh
[07:58] <soulrider> yeah, it would make me go nuts too!
[07:59] <soulrider> kubuntu is wonderful! =D
[07:59] <waylandbill> not booting will make  anyone loopy
[07:59] <hellcattrav> not when its text based
[08:01] <soulrider> question for everyone: dont you get all excited when there are updates? :P
[08:01] <soulrider> i allways do, dunno why
[08:01] <|TheSpun|> yeah i really like kubuntu
[08:01] <|TheSpun|> and yeah i get all excited about updates still too lol
[08:01] <soulrider> lol
[08:02] <|TheSpun|> i love my little icons :P
[08:02] <kristjan_> excited? no, only new features get me excited
[08:02] <soulrider> im gonna try the edgy -> feisty upgrade
[08:02] <soulrider> wish me luck ! :P
[08:02] <kristjan_> but it's only alpha
[08:03] <|TheSpun|> stupid question from me time, when am i likely to see kubuntu supporting my new mobo?
[08:03] <soulrider> |TheSpun|: no idea, its more of a linux kernel issue i guess rather than a kubuntu issue
[08:03] <soulrider> but im just guessing
[08:03] <kristjan_> e.g. I like "New Icon Launch Effect" in feisty fawn, cute
[08:03] <|TheSpun|> so in theory always possible that with the kernel update i'm downloading it might be fixed?
[08:04] <soulrider> woosie
[08:04] <soulrider> i got disconnected
[08:04] <stdin> |TheSpun|: it's not kubuntu that doesn't support your mobo, it's your mobo that doesn't suppoet linux, that is, it used non-standard interfaces and you have to add options to the kernel for it to ignore those quirks
[08:05] <|TheSpun|> stdin: fair nuff, any idea why knoppix would boot ok though?
[08:05] <stdin> differnet kernel versions probably
[08:05] <|TheSpun|> ok cool :)
[08:10] <smurphy> Re
[08:10] <c0nv1ct> does anyone know if i need a kernel module to get HDD S.M.A.R.T. working?
[08:11] <c0nv1ct> it tells me my HDD is not capable of it, but i know for a fact it is
[08:13] <stdin> c0nv1ct: maybe you need smartmontools
[08:13] <stdin> !smartmontools
[08:13] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 620 kB
[08:13] <crube> I need a little help. I need to rescale a big amount of pictures, and I need a way to do it fast and easy. Can gimp do this, or do I need another program for it?
[08:13] <c0nv1ct> yeah, i installed it, didnt help any :)
[08:14] <c0nv1ct> maybe i didnt setup smartmontools right
[08:14] <stdin> crube: I'd use convert
[08:14] <RealisticDragon> evening @:)
[08:15] <stdin> crube: part of the imagemagick package
[08:15] <RealisticDragon> i filled a bug against convert... i tried convert Water Wine and it didnt work :( most dissapointing
[08:15] <crube> stdin:  Yeah, I've used it, but I have no idea how to use it to rescale
[08:16] <SagaciousKJB> Quick queston here: Is there a GUI front-end for mkfs, or just some way in Kubuntu to format a drive?  The syntax for mkfs is driving me mad
[08:17] <PupenoR> SagaciousKJB: mkfs.ext3 /dev/devicename or mkfs.reiserfs /dev/devicename (I don't know about a gui, qtparted maybe).
[08:17] <SagaciousKJB> Sorry, I forgot to specify I'm trying to format something to fat32
[08:18] <SagaciousKJB> mkfs -v -t fat32 /dev/sda1  (with or without blocks specified) gives me this error :mkfs.ext2: invalid blocks count - /dev/sda1
[08:18] <Satandawg> watsup
[08:18] <stdin> crube: have a look at "convert --help" and especially at the -scale part
[08:19] <crube> Yyeah I'm on it. Thanks.
[08:19] <Satandawg> hey any women want ta chat
[08:20] <PupenoR> SagaciousKJB: that seems like the partition is no made or something like that. I also don't like the fact that it is invoking mkfs.ext2.
[08:20] <PupenoR> SagaciousKJB: try qtparted.
[08:20] <_spaz> O_o
[08:20] <SagaciousKJB> Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
[08:20] <_spaz> huge problems with apt-get
[08:21] <BluesKaj> hmm, just installed the 2.0.0.2 vers of FF , but now links in T-bird won't launch FF .... any ideas?
[08:21] <wouterh> SagaciousKJB: try apt-get install mtools and then use mformat to format in fat32
[08:21] <Satandawg> hey wats goin' on?
[08:22] <_spaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10498/
[08:22] <wouterh> SagaciousKJB: hmm, that seems to be for floppies only
[08:22] <_spaz> i did sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:22] <_spaz> and sudo apt-get -f install
[08:22] <_spaz> >_>
[08:22] <frojnd> what packages do I have to isntall for php working on my apache
[08:23] <stdin> frojnd: libapache2-mod-php5 maybe?
[08:23] <hellcattrav> hey all is opensuse any good?
[08:23] <_spaz> wrong place to ask hellcattrav
[08:23] <_spaz> ;p
[08:24] <_spaz> imo no
[08:24] <stdin> _spaz: have you tried "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libapache2-mod-php5" ?
[08:24] <_spaz> lol
[08:24] <_spaz> i'm not installing apache
[08:24] <_spaz> ;p
[08:24] <RealisticDragon> opensuse is pretty competent - depends what you would like to do
[08:24] <stdin> _spaz: past error, libgnomevfs2-common instead of apache :P
[08:25] <_spaz> yes, i tried that stdin
[08:25] <_spaz> >_>
[08:25] <hellcattrav> yeah but if i ask in an opensuse channel about kubuntu id get the same answer
[08:25] <stdin> _spaz: same error?
[08:25] <_spaz> yes
[08:25] <hellcattrav> oh well
[08:26] <_spaz>   libgnomevfs2-common: Depends: gnome-mime-data but it is not going to be installed
[08:26] <_spaz> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:26] <_spaz> and i tried to install gnome-mime0data
[08:26] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[08:26] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:26] <_spaz> my adept is fine
[08:26] <_spaz> but i have two libs to uninstall/reinstall that depend on each other
[08:26] <_spaz> >_>
[08:27] <PhilosophyNinja> so I'm reading through the Kubuntu Guide and its talking about games like Frozen Bubbles and PEnguin Racer
[08:27] <PhilosophyNinja> how do I get those installed
[08:27] <stdin> _spaz: what about "sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo dpkg -i $(ls /var/cache/apt/archives/|grep libgnomevfs2-commo)" ?
[08:28] <PhilosophyNinja> I've activated the Universe repositories
[08:28] <PhilosophyNinja> but can't figure out how to install them from there
[08:28] <stdin> frozen-bubble
[08:28] <stdin> it's in the repos
[08:28] <stdin> just install with adept
[08:28] <_spaz> hmm...
[08:28] <_spaz> triyng aptitude
[08:28] <_spaz> h/o
[08:28] <stdin> !info frozen-bubble
[08:28] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[08:29] <soulrider> !feisty
[08:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:29] <stdin> PhilosophyNinja: planetpenguin-racer is the name of the other game
[08:29] <_spaz> stdin: trying things you suggested
[08:30] <mark__> How do I change the desktop fonts in KDE? Their currently black and not very visible with a wallpaper
[08:30] <_spaz> gah O_o
[08:30] <_spaz> didn't work
[08:30] <_spaz> >_>
[08:31] <stdin> mark__: System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts
[08:31] <stdin> _spaz: what was the error that time?
[08:31] <_spaz> same thing >_>
[08:32] <_spaz> dpkg: error processing libgnomevfs2-common_2.16.1-0ubuntu7_all.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:32] <_spaz> Errors were encountered while processing: libgnomevfs2-common_2.16.1-0ubuntu7_all.deb
[08:32] <_spaz> when i did that autoclean one
[08:32] <_spaz> >_<
[08:32] <stdin> _spaz: ahh, that's probably mu fault then :P
[08:33] <stdin> _spaz: what about "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/$(ls /var/cache/apt/archives/|grep libgnomevfs2-commo)" ?
[08:33] <_spaz> mmk
[08:33] <stdin> _spaz: it may work better that the one before
[08:35] <_spaz> Oo
[08:35] <_spaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10502/
[08:36] <enry> goodbye!
[08:38] <_spaz> stdin: didn't work
[08:38] <_spaz> >_>
[08:38] <zorglu_> q. i run edgy and amarok keeps complaining about not be able to play mp3, any hint on a possible fix ?
[08:39] <_spaz> hmm...
[08:39] <stdin> !mp3
[08:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:39] <_spaz> methinks i may have fixed it
[08:39] <_spaz> i uncommented a repository i removed before
[08:39] <_spaz> >_>
[08:39] <stdin> _spaz: ahh, which one?
[08:40] <_spaz> uhh...
[08:40] <_spaz> h/o
[08:40] <_spaz> don't remember
[08:40] <_spaz> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted
[08:40] <_spaz> i added that to get the new kernel
[08:40] <stdin> _spaz: feisty?
[08:40] <_spaz> no, edgy
[08:40] <_spaz> but i accidentally did apt-get upgrade
[08:40] <_spaz> >_>
[08:40] <zorglu_> stdin: i already got libxine-extracodec installed
[08:41] <_spaz> it worked fine for a while
[08:41] <stdin> bad idea to add a feisty repo, on an edgy install
[08:41] <_spaz> probably was
[08:41] <_spaz> it was fine before though
[08:41] <waylandbill> yeah. very bad idea.
[08:41] <_spaz> >_>
[08:41] <waylandbill> would cause dependency issues up the wazoo!
[08:42] <_spaz> should i just convert all my repos into feisy ones?
[08:42] <waylandbill> I'd of rolled my own kernel before that. :-O
[08:42] <_spaz> well it was a while ago
[08:42] <_spaz> i had just started >_>
[08:43] <_spaz> i realize now that that was dumb; that's why i commented it out
[08:43] <zorglu_> q. anybody suceed to get mp3 reading from amarok on edgy ?
[08:43] <RealisticDragon> yup
[08:44] <zorglu_> ok so it is just me :)
[08:44] <RealisticDragon> sec, trying to think back
[08:44] <RealisticDragon> and this is on PPC too so it must have been easy or it wouldnt have worked ;
[08:44] <RealisticDragon> ;)
[08:44] <stdin> did you restart amarok after installing libxine-extracodecs ?
[08:44] <zorglu_> stdin: well i got it installed already
[08:44] <RealisticDragon> it was a few months ago, just checking what i actually installed
[08:45] <RealisticDragon> yeah, i have libxine-extracodecs installed
[08:45] <zorglu_> stdin: i mean i didnt install it today, it was install long ago, and doing apt-get install just say 'already newest'
[08:45] <linxeh> is there any way to change the spacing of widgets in KDE ? eg the menus ? they look so cluttered :o
[08:45] <stdin> zorglu_: have mp3s ever worked in amarok for you?
[08:45] <stamen> hi
[08:46] <mrbrdo> hello
[08:46] <zorglu_> stdin: yes, but last time i remember was before i updated from dapper
[08:46] <stamen> who can recomend me a plug-in or program which is a clock, and I can embed it when I watch movies
[08:46] <stdin> linxeh: middle click & drag
[08:46] <mrbrdo> is there ANY decent audio file editor for Linux? i tried just about everything and no program supports mixing two .wav files together? what the..
[08:46] <stamen> I want to see what is the time when I am watching
[08:46] <_spaz> hmmm
[08:46] <tsdgeos> rosegarden?
[08:46] <stdin> mrbrdo: audacity ?
[08:46] <_spaz> how good is feisty?
[08:47] <stamen> lets say that I use mplayer to watch movies
[08:47] <mrbrdo> stdin: isn't that a player only?
[08:47] <linxeh> stdj
[08:47] <Leecher> hi. does anyone use ktorrent via ktshell ?
[08:47] <stdin> mrbrdo: heh, no it's not
[08:47] <_spaz> would it be a better idea just to reinstall?
[08:47] <_spaz> >_>
[08:47] <linxeh> stdin: over a menu item? and the spacing of all menus will then change ?
[08:47] <mrbrdo> ah nvm that was audacious
[08:47] <stamen> Leecher: I use ktorrent
[08:47] <mrbrdo> okay i'll try it, will see soon
[08:47] <pollyo> Hello
[08:48] <pollyo> Anyone familiar with Guarddog?  Do you need to run a firewall on Linux?
[08:48] <stdin> mrbrdo: as long as you move other applets out of the way
[08:48] <stdin> linxeh:  as long as you move other applets out of the way
[08:48] <stdin> sorry mrbrdo, wasn't for you :P
[08:49] <linxeh> stdin: err, applets? I mean the application menus - eg File, Edit etc - the items on them are far too close together, and it looks tiring
[08:49] <stdin> pollyo: you don'y need one with a default install, only when you are running services, like ssh, samba, etc
[08:49] <stdin> linxeh: ahh, didn't get that
[08:50] <pollyo> stdin: Ok.  Thank you.
[08:50] <stdin> linxeh: not sure, maybe ask in #kde
[08:50] <linxeh> stdin: I guess it is likely to be a big job to change it :o
[08:50] <linxeh> yeah, ok :)
[08:50] <zorglu_> q. is there any kde audio player except amarok ?
[08:50] <RealisticDragon> ill be installing feisty when i get my new shiney macbook pro next month :)
[08:50] <RealisticDragon> zorglu_: have you tried mp3s in mplayer to check it works at all?
[08:50] <stdin> !players | zorglu_
[08:50] <ubotu> zorglu_: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:51] <pollyo> I was looking at Kopete and noticed that it supports many different systems is it as comlete as gaim?  I didn't see Yahoo Chat rooms in Kopete.
[08:51] <zorglu_> RealisticDragon: you mean the files in themself ?
[08:51] <RealisticDragon> mp3 playback
[08:51] <zorglu_> hmm maybe juk
[08:51] <mrbrdo> stdin: audacity doesn't detect any sound devices, how can i set it to alsa or oss or something?
[08:52] <zorglu_> RealisticDragon: mplayer is able to read the mp3 i try to give to amarok, unsucessfully :)
[08:52] <zorglu_> ~info juk
[08:52] <zorglu_> !info juk
[08:52] <ubotu> juk: music organizer and player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 764 kB, installed size 1936 kB
[08:52] <stdin> mrbrdo: Ctrl-P (to open preferences)
[08:53] <mrbrdo> yeah i already did that, but i couldn't find any such setting
[08:53] <mrbrdo> the device dropdowns are empty and that's about it
[08:53] <zorglu_> q. should i reinstall from scractch to get mp3 reading ?
[08:54] <mrbrdo> stdin: and how can you mix two files together here? :S
[08:54] <zorglu_> thinking about it, install from scratch doesnt provide mp3 at all :)
[08:54] <zorglu_> maybe with the linspire deal...
[08:54] <RealisticDragon> im sorry zorglu_, im no expert on mp3 libraries :/ but rather than doing that id suggest essentially a do-over of the mp3 installation guide (remove then reinstall everything it asks for )
[08:54] <PupenoR> How do I make the md5sum of a (real) CD?
[08:55] <zorglu_> RealisticDragon: the issue is more into amarok not reporting the error in my view
[08:56] <stdin> mrbrdo: try "sudo modprobe snd-seq-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss" then restart audacity, to mix files, just go to Project -> Import audio
[08:56] <mrbrdo> FATAL: Error inserting snd_seq_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/seq/oss/snd-seq-oss.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter
[08:56] <mrbrdo> same for snd_seq
[08:57] <mrbrdo> i'm running a 64bit kernel
[08:57] <pollyo> BBL
[08:57] <stdin> mrbrdo: do you have /dev/dsp ?
[08:57] <mrbrdo> yes
[08:58] <mrbrdo> sound is working otherwise :)
[08:59] <stdin> mrbrdo: it should work with oss then.
[08:59] <stdin> mrbrdo: if you do "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" do you hear "noise" ?
[08:59] <mrbrdo> but it doesn't :) and snd_oss doesn't load because of that error
[09:00] <stdin> mrbrdo: Ctrl-C to stop it
[09:00] <mrbrdo> stdin: no, since the device is busy
[09:00] <stdin> maybe artsd is blocking it
[09:00] <mrbrdo> yes, and why not?
[09:00] <mrbrdo> are you suggesting i should stop all other sound when using audacity?
[09:01] <stdin> mrbrdo: with oss, yes, you have to
[09:01] <zorglu_> hue juk is even worst, it doesnt not say anything when it fails. not even a 'can  play file but wont give the reason' stuff like amarok :)
[09:01] <mrbrdo> what about alsa-oss
[09:01] <zorglu_> !audio
[09:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:01] <zorglu_> !player
[09:01] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:01] <compilerwriter2> Jucato you in?
[09:01] <zorglu_> what are the non-buggy one ?
[09:01] <zorglu_> is there a list ?
[09:01] <stdin> mrbrdo: never tried it, as it doesn't work with my sound card
[09:02] <mrbrdo> oh ok
[09:02] <mrbrdo> we'll i'm just going to reboot brb
[09:02] <zorglu_> maybe it is somewhere in xine, kaffeine is bugged too :)
[09:03] <RealisticDragon> sounds like a codec problem indeed
[09:04] <compilerwriter2> Ok guys I need some info here.  I do the XDCP thing on one windows box via xming.  I am on another windows box and trying to use xming but the catch is that it is as 64 bit chipset.  Could that be causing a wrinkle in things?  What do I need to do to get it to work, if that is my problem?
[09:05] <ubuntu_> hi
[09:05] <zorglu_> RealisticDragon: the kaffeine issue is like 'when you first launch it after a boot, it will freeze for ever, but if you kill it and relaunch it, it works'
[09:05] <zorglu_> RealisticDragon: i know other people got this one too, any clue on how to fix this one ?
[09:06] <ubuntu_> i just wanted to install from desktop cd and did a cd check first....it seemed to give an ok for everzthing aside froma casper file szstem thingz or something alike...that gave me a mismatch
[09:06] <ubuntu_> is this normal  behaviour for some reason or should i be worried?
[09:06] <RealisticDragon> the cdcheck should end up with no errors at all
[09:06] <ubuntu_> oh just great
[09:07] <RealisticDragon> itll probably still work but if you have a spare cheap CDR around id burn another copy, sorry
[09:07] <ubuntu_> so what do i do now....there shouldnt be any big issues with burning a cd
[09:07] <ubuntu_> hm
[09:07] <ubuntu_> i dont know what i could do differently this time
[09:08] <RealisticDragon> did you check that the download was ok?
[09:08] <ubuntu_> i got another cd but its of the same type
[09:08] <ubuntu_> RealisticDragon: by a hashcheck you mean?
[09:09] <RealisticDragon> yeah, the download should have a md5sum on the page... you can get a md5 utility for windows http://www.irnis.net/gloss/md5sum-windows.shtml here
[09:09] <compilerwriter2> act 1
[09:09] <ubuntu_> i never did hashchecks for anythuing to be true
[09:09] <ubuntu_> jeebus...no whater which part of a pc i touch it goes wrong...even burning an install cd
[09:09] <RealisticDragon> me either i have been taking chances on linux installed for 9 years and never had one fail yet even with dirt cheap CDs :) must be lucky
[09:09] <ubuntu_> matter
[09:10] <ubuntu_> RealisticDragon:  there you go im just cursed
[09:10] <ubuntu_> computers hate me
[09:10] <RealisticDragon> if you will still have a spare machine (with a CD burner!) after you install ubuntu on one then give it a go error or not i guess... if its your main machine do nothing until you have checked on the bugs :)
[09:11] <ubuntu_> ok....im gonna do a hashcheck then burn at a slower speed if that doesnt fix it i cant helpi it and just have to install it and live with my curse
[09:11] <RealisticDragon> good luck :) come back and tell us how it went
[09:12] <ubuntu_> RealisticDragon: what do you mean with giving it a go error...sorry english is not my native language
[09:13] <RealisticDragon> try it anyway, even with the problem
[09:13] <RealisticDragon> unless its your only pc
[09:13] <RealisticDragon> ill cross my fingers for you :)
[09:13] <ubuntu_> oh got it now
[09:13] <ubuntu_> right
[09:14] <ubuntu_> thx for your help man
[09:14] <ubuntu_> later...
[09:14] <RealisticDragon> cya :)
[09:14] <kgx> does anyone know how i can prevent this message: WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!. everytime it appears, i need to manually remove it from the knowns hosts file. this is for connecting to my home computer and it changes when i switch between linux and windows
[09:14] <zorglu_> !mp3
[09:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:14] <RealisticDragon> !ubotu
[09:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:16] <kdehl> How come I can't compile a kernel with 'make menuconfig'? It misses curses.h, it says. ncurses seems to be installed, is there something else that I need?
[09:17] <RealisticDragon> sounds like you need the ncurses dev package
[09:17] <RealisticDragon> .h is a header file
[09:17] <kdehl> Ah.
[09:19] <compilerwriter2> How does one switch channels back and forth on irssi?
[09:19] <RealisticDragon> ctrl-n
[09:19] <RealisticDragon> and ctrl-p
[09:19] <f4LUCE> ciao fabiana, italiana?
[09:19] <kdehl> Yup, that was it.
[09:19] <RealisticDragon> woo, i feel like a fount of all knowledge now :P thank you for asking questions i know the answer to ;)
[09:19] <kdehl> Thanks, RealisticDragon.
[09:20] <kdehl> Haha.
[09:20] <pabst> Has anyone had any issues installing Kubuntu on a laptop using an ATI Mobility Fire GL Video Card?
[09:21] <zorglu_> no only issue with mp3 reading :)
[09:21] <RealisticDragon> i think the ATI driver supports it
[09:21] <zorglu_> !ati | pabst
[09:21] <ubotu> pabst: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:22] <zorglu_> pabst: tried this one ?
[09:22] <compilerwriter2> Anyone know if xming can be made to work with 64 bit processors.
[09:22] <pabst> I havent ordered the laptop yet... I just wanted to make sure prior to ordering it
[09:22] <RealisticDragon> as far as i know the drivers work with sleep and so on
[09:22] <zorglu_> pabst: ati support got very  bad reputation
[09:22] <zorglu_> pabst: you need to know that if the 'harm isnt yet done' :)
[09:23] <pabst> I thought I had heard some issues
[09:23] <RealisticDragon> its generally not much fun to get it working
[09:24] <pabst> cool... so no reason to avoid the ATI card, or would i be "one the safe side" by doing so? (Its a Lenovo laptop that im ordering, ThinkPad T60)
[09:24] <RealisticDragon> if you dont need *fast* 3d (ie games) id take a look at intel based machine
[09:24] <RealisticDragon> the GMA 950 has full support
[09:24] <RealisticDragon> otherwise try http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page which is the ATI/Linux wiki
[09:24] <zorglu_> i run http://tremulous.net in intel 950
[09:25] <pabst> its a network admin machine... so, no reason for crazy graphics
[09:25] <RealisticDragon>     *  MOBILITY FireGL T2/T2e (4E54)
[09:25] <RealisticDragon>     * MOBILITY FireGL V3100 (5464)
[09:25] <RealisticDragon>     * MOBILITY FireGL V3200 (3154)
[09:25] <RealisticDragon>     * MOBILITY FireGL V5000 (564A, 564B)
[09:25] <RealisticDragon>     * MOBILITY FireGL V5100 (5D49)
[09:25] <RealisticDragon>     * MOBILITY FireGL V5200 (M56 71C4)
[09:25] <RealisticDragon> those all work with the proprietary driver
[09:25] <jon_> how can I make irc disconnect my nickname, it says bonbonthejon is online
[09:25] <RealisticDragon> well its easier not to cause yourself problems then i guess pabst :)
[09:26] <pabst> exactly
[09:26] <pabst> so use the intel card eh? :)
[09:26] <RealisticDragon> just wait and itll cut off jon_
[09:26] <pabst> i believe thats what comes standard on the Lenovo T60
[09:26] <RealisticDragon> well since intel have open source drivers (and good ones) its nice to support them if theres no reason not to :)
[09:26] <zorglu_> pabst: i would say it is way 'safer' to use intel :)
[09:26] <pabst> coool
[09:26] <pabst> appreciate the help
[09:26] <RealisticDragon> np
[09:27] <RealisticDragon> oh, i believe intel wireless nics have safe drivers too, depending on the model
[09:27] <payam> does anybody know how i can install Gnome on KDE?
[09:27] <RealisticDragon> on kubuntu payam? install ubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <payam> how?
[09:27] <pabst> yeah... my broadcomm installed fine on this laptop though
[09:27] <RealisticDragon> with the package manager, adept
[09:27] <jon_> i'm installing a command line interface, dont i just need kubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <payam> whats the name of the package?
[09:28] <RealisticDragon> ubuntu-desktop (or if you prefer just gnome)
[09:28] <AMSmith42> Is there a defacto webmail server?
[09:28] <compilerwriter2> part
[09:28] <RealisticDragon> ubuntu-desktop includes more files
[09:28] <payam> what shoul i write in terminal  ?
[09:28] <payam> to install it automatcly
[09:28] <RealisticDragon> payam: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <AMSmith42> RealisticDragon: sudo first?
[09:29] <RealisticDragon> beware its quite big
[09:29] <RealisticDragon> oh, indeed, sorry
[09:29] <zorglu_> AHA "xine blabal.mp3" do provide info!!!
[09:29] <RealisticDragon> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <zorglu_> in your face, amarok!
[09:29] <AMSmith42> lmao
[09:31] <zorglu_> maouaoaua :)
[09:31] <zorglu_> RealisticDragon: you know what was the fix to my problem ?
[09:32] <zorglu_> RealisticDragon: it was "rm -rf .xine" :)))))))))))
[09:32] <jason_> hi everyone
[09:32] <bonbonthejon> how can i shrink a ntfs partition
[09:32] <jason_> is it possible that I am running X in X ?
[09:32] <zorglu_> bonbonthejon: there are many page for that
[09:32] <mrbrdo> why am i getting this
[09:32] <mrbrdo> FATAL: Error inserting snd_seq (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter
[09:32] <jhutchins> bonbonthejon: blah blah blah warnings about ntfs, probably qparted
[09:32] <jason_> I tried to set up xgl a long time ago and finally gave up
[09:32] <zorglu_> bonbonthejon: i dont remember how so, look at the install window32
[09:33] <jason_> but there is badness in my machine now
[09:33] <jhutchins> mrbrdo: Where'd you get the module?  Did you compile it yourself?
[09:33] <jason_> and i am wondering how to tell if i did something like that?
[09:33] <zorglu_> jason_: people developping kde4 know that well
[09:33] <cecko> Hi all, how can I mount partition when it's not written in fstab? I am in a livecd with need to backup preinstalled windows
[09:33] <zorglu_> jason_: xnest or close
[09:33] <mrbrdo> jhutchins: no
[09:33] <mrbrdo> jhutchins: i tried apt-get --reinstall everything i can think of, linux-restricted-modules and alsa-oss and alsa.. but all to no avail
[09:34] <jason_> zorglu_: I dont understand... xnest == command not found
[09:34] <zorglu_> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development#Nested_KDE_4_session <- jason_
[09:34] <jason_> zorglu_: ok reading thx :)
[09:34] <jhutchins> mrbrdo: do a uname -r and locate snd-seq.ko, make sure you have matching version numbers.
[09:35] <mrbrdo> well, it-s 2.6.17-11-generic, /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq.ko
[09:35] <mrbrdo> so it matches
[09:35] <mrbrdo> i am on 64bit
[09:35] <brad_> how do I reset apt?
[09:36] <jason_> ok i am fairly sure that I have done that.   and for the life of me i cant remember how so i can undo it
[09:36] <jhutchins> mrbrdo: Ok, just a min here...
[09:36] <mrbrdo> ok thanks
[09:36] <jason_> fyrmedic: grab the stock sources.lst
[09:36] <jason_> and then apt-get update
[09:36] <jhutchins> mrbrdo: That comes with the linux-image package (which I presume is the kernel).
[09:37] <fyrmedic> jason_; isn't there a reconfigure option? like -a or something
[09:37] <mrbrdo> ok i reinstalled it
[09:37] <mrbrdo> same error still
[09:38] <jhutchins> mrbrdo: Ok, let's see if we can get the "unknown parameter".
[09:38] <jhutchins> sudo modprobe -v snd-seq
[09:39] <bonbonthejon> well, shoot, in vista they make it easy to shrink their partition
[09:39] <mrbrdo> jhutchins: from dmesg: [  970.164353]  snd_seq: Unknown parameter `snd-pcm-oss'
[09:39] <jhutchins> AH!
[09:40] <easytiger> beryl + kde: how do you show only the application windows from the current desktop in the tasklist
[09:40] <mrbrdo> lol
[09:40] <mrbrdo> after the line you gave me
[09:40] <mrbrdo> it loads the modules
[09:40] <mrbrdo> how come? :O
[09:40] <cecko> Hi all, how do I mount partition? Qtparted says it there are hda1, hda2 and hda3 but "mount hda1" does not work
[09:40] <jhutchins> mrbrdo: Something in your alsa.conf isn't kosher.
[09:41] <mrbrdo> one more thing, how can i make audacity work with arts? it can't find my sound devices
[09:43] <besonen_mobile> anyone around who's installed kubuntu on a laptop with a physical switch that turns the wireless signal off?  i'm wondering if during the installation of kubuntu if the wireless switch is 'off' is there a chance that the installer might not have detected the wireless hardware?  i'm installing onto a lenovo thinkpad t60.
[09:44] <easytiger> well can the os see the card?
[09:44] <ubuntu_> does kubuntu install flawless onto the new macbooks macbooks pro?
[09:44] <fernando__> hi, How can I change the initial login windows???
[09:44] <fernando__> it is possible on kubuntu??
[09:45] <zorglu_> fernando__:  google for "kdm themes"
[09:45] <zorglu_> for=around :)
[09:45] <besonen_mobile> easytiger:  immediately after reboot, before turing the switch on, i checked kinfocenter and there was no entry for the card.  is there somewhere else i can check?
[09:46] <fernando__> zorglu: thanks
[09:46] <fernando__> :-)
[09:46] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Two things, lspci, and tail -f /var/log/messages while you turn it off then back on again.
[09:46] <besonen_mobile> ubuntu_:  get a lenovo thinkpad t60 if you haven't already purchased a macbook.
[09:47] <zorglu_> http://aaron.instantspot.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/2/15/Easily-manage-KDM-themes-in-Kubuntu <- fernando__ even better :)
[09:47] <besonen_mobile> thanks jhutchins
[09:47] <bxnp> what about the thinkpad t60 besonen_mobile
[09:47] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: It _should_ be detected when you turn it on, but it may not have a native driver.  Figure out what chipset it is and see !wireless to track down the drivers.
[09:48] <besonen_mobile> bxnp:  t60s are the best laptops currently available imho
[09:49] <jarn> What's the graphical package manger called?
[09:49] <stdin> !adept
[09:49] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:49] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  there's nothing that happens during the installation that is dependent on what hardware is detected since all of the drivers are in the kernel, correct?
[09:50] <jarn> When I try to run adept it says that that's not a command.
[09:50] <fernando__> zorglu_: jaja I found the same after you tip :-) thanks again :-)
[09:50] <zorglu_> cool :)
[09:50] <stdin> jarn: try adept_manager
[09:50] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  thus whenever you boot kubuntu it auto-dectects the hardware and if the kernel supports it it works, correct?
[09:51] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with how to limit a certain users ssh access to be a certain jailed folder?  such as locking them to /var/www/ so they can admin a website, but do nothign else
[09:51] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Some stuff is extra, and if it's an unsupported chipset I don't think it will even install during installation.
[09:51] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: More and more stuff is detected if it's hotplugged.
[09:51] <jhutchins> As opposed to during boot.
[09:51] <jhutchins> bur[n] er: chroot.
[09:51] <jarn> stdin: Thanks. How do symlinks work? I'd like to set up one so I can just use adept.
[09:52] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  so it's not likely that i would need to do a reinstallation.  if it's supported the support will already be present?
[09:52] <bur[n] er> jhutchins, how do i do it?  I tried using scponlyc but I can't login with winscp from the client
[09:52] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Correct, you may need to adjust somethings, but reinstalltion isn't needed.
[09:52] <stdin> jarn: you don't have to, you can just make an alias in your ~/.bashrc file, or just use the Kmenu to open adept
[09:52] <bur[n] er> jhutchins, do I keep bash as the users shell?  how do I configure ssh for chroot?
[09:53] <jarn> stdin: But don't aliases only work through the command line?
[09:53] <bxnp> az-new castle united 2-0 :)
[09:53] <jhutchins> bur[n] er: I'm not completely sure about that, you'd want to read some of the ssh howto's somewhere like http://tldp.org.
[09:53] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  does "adjust somethings" mean that these adjustments may have taken place automatically during the installation if the hardware was detected at that point?
[09:53] <bur[n] er> I think this should be on the wiki :)
[09:53] <stdin> jarn: why do you need to make a link, the entry in the kmenu works
[09:54] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Possibly, but possibly not.
[09:54] <jarn> stdin: But I don't like the kmenu. I like to run things with alt+F2 when I need them, it's much quicker.
[09:54] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Many wireless cards are not natively supported and need manual configuration.
[09:54] <Danker> On witch day is going Kubuntu to be released?
[09:55] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  thanks, i'll wipe the partitions and re-install just to be sure.  it only took about 20 minutes.
[09:55] <jhutchins> bur[n] er: You also might be able to do it with either standard unix permissions (make user part of group apache), or set up an ACL system.
[09:55] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Really, that would be a waste of time.
[09:55] <bur[n] er> jhutchins, if i make them www-data, is that good?
[09:56] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  understood.  except that i don't want to have to figure out what might be "missing".
[09:56] <stdin> jarn: you can set a shortcit to launch it too, or put a script in ~/bin/, but If you want to make a symlink "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/adept_manager /usr/bin/adept"
[09:56] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Determine the chipset, find out what driver it needs, follow the wiki.
[09:56] <jarn> stdin: Thanks.
[09:57] <fernando__> zorglu_: I installed but I can found this "Control Center menu" the website point.. do you know where is that?
[09:57] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: If it doesn't work when you turn it on, chances are that re-installing isn't going to do any good, and you're still going to have to determine the chipset and set up the card.
[09:57] <fernando__> zorglu_: I can't..
[09:57] <zorglu_> fernando__: it is likely 'kcontrol'. try "kcontrol" in a terminal
[09:58] <fernando__> zorglu_: thanks again :-)
[09:58] <zorglu_> :)
[09:58] <jhutchins> !de > fernando__
[09:59] <fyrmedic> anyone know a good link with instructions for installing and configuring fglrx
[09:59] <jhutchins> fernando__: You'll probably want to do kdesu kcontrol, which you can do from Alt-F2.
[09:59] <jhutchins> !beryl | fyrmedic
[09:59] <ubotu> fyrmedic: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:00] <jhutchins> !compiz | fyrmedic
[10:00] <ubotu> fyrmedic: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:01] <fyrmedic> jhutchins: thanks but none of them are going to work until I get fglrx installed and running right.
[10:01] <zorglu_> :)
[10:01] <zorglu_> there is a page for that
[10:01] <zorglu_> !fglrx
[10:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:01] <zorglu_> bla :)
[10:01] <Smorg> ello
[10:01] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: I think it's in the compiz stuff, and probably the beryl stuff too.
[10:01] <Smorg> anyone around here have experience with the linuxant modem drivers, or knows of any equivilant?
[10:02] <jhutchins> Since they both rely on it, and are about the only things that use it.
[10:03] <ubuntu> hi guys, i cant access my linux on laptiop, i boot from a live cd and cant mount, help apeciated
[10:04] <Smorg> got enough ram?
[10:05] <fyrmedic> jhutchins; thanks
[10:05] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  i understand that a re-install is unlikely to improve the situation in terms of the hardware being usable.  btw, i turned the switch on and it appears to be detected.  but even though it's detected i re-install makes sense to me.  why?  because i don't know squat about the kubuntu installation process.  and i really want to have a "pristine" installation.  for all i know kubuntu adds some extra wireless options to the
[10:05] <besonen_mobile>  K menu if it detects a wireless card *during* the installation.  does it make sense now why i want to re-install?
[10:06] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Nope.
[10:06] <Smorg> nobody uses modems here? ^^
[10:06] <jhutchins> 99% of the install has nothing to do with the wireless stuff, and you can install all you need by hand.
[10:06] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  :-)
[10:06] <jhutchins> Smorg: Not softmodems.
[10:07] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: do apt-cache search wireless and see what you have to choose from.
[10:07] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Linux is meant to be modified and reconfigured without having to be reinstalled.
[10:08] <jhutchins> _especialy_ the networking.
[10:08] <slyfox> how do I force remove direcotry with a command even if it is not empty ?
[10:08] <jhutchins> slyfox: rm -r
[10:08] <neoncode> Does anyone remember that GLScube program that was in devlopment a while back?
[10:08] <darkserver3> konban wa!!!
[10:09] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  by writing that "99% of the install has nothing to do with the wireless stuff" you demonstrate that you know way more about the kubuntu installation process than me.  thus reason for *me* to reinstall.  because i don't know what i'm doing.  enough of this ramble.  thank you for you help.  really.
[10:09] <slyfox> jhutchins: sudo rmdir -r /home/slyfox/.beryl/   ?
[10:09] <darkserver3> do you remember the repository of the new beryl if this really exists???
[10:10] <jhutchins> slyfox: rm -r .beryl
[10:10] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  i understand linux is meant to be re-configurable and modified on-the-fly.
[10:10] <jhutchins> slyfox: or rm -rf .beryl - be very careful with f.
[10:10] <besonen_mobile> i'm not a dummy.
[10:10] <darkserver3> stay calm
[10:10] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: You will learn a lot more about the installation process by installing stuff yourself than by just letting the installation run again.
[10:11] <besonen_mobile> understood
[10:11] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: It's easy, it works well, if something's missing you just add it.
[10:11] <slyfox> jhutchins: what does r and f mean ?
[10:11] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: The main installer is not meant to be a reconfiguration tool.
[10:12] <jhutchins> slyfox: r means recursive, f means force.
[10:12] <jhutchins> rm -rf / will fubar your system.
[10:12] <slyfox> jhutchins: recursive means anything inside the folder ?
[10:12] <jhutchins> Yes, and is required for folders.
[10:13] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  if you could tell me definitively how the kubuntu installation differs depending on whether or not a wireless device is detected then i would have no problem making those changes and skipping the re-install.
[10:13] <jhutchins> Sure.
[10:15] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: I'm checking some things because ubuntu is not my primary system...
[10:16] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: It probably didn't install kwifimanager
[10:16] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: or wlassistant.
[10:17] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Other than that it's just a matter of finding which set of drivers you need, and like I said the installer might not haev done that anyway.
[10:17] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: So, shall we determine what card you have?
[10:18] <besonen_mobile> ok
[10:18] <jhutchins> turn it off; open a console.
[10:18] <besonen_mobile> booting
[10:18] <jhutchins> Ah.
[10:19] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  what is your primary os?
[10:19] <jhutchins> Mandriva.
[10:19] <besonen_mobile> booting almost complete
[10:19] <besonen_mobile> how long have you used Mandriva?
[10:19] <jhutchins> RedHat and SuSE too, so I'm from the SysV/RPM universe.
[10:20] <besonen_mobile> 3, 4, 5 years?
[10:20] <jhutchins> been running servers since RH2.1, ~1996.  Switched to a Linux desktop about four years ago.
[10:20] <besonen_mobile> ok, i have a console
[10:21] <jhutchins> Has the HD light stopped flashing?
[10:21] <besonen_mobile> yup
[10:21] <jhutchins> turn the card on, see if the HD does anything.
[10:21] <besonen_mobile> have you ever touch solaris?
[10:21] <jhutchins> when it's through, type dmesg<enter>
[10:22] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Nope.
[10:22] <besonen_mobile> i booted with the card turned on.
[10:22] <darkserver3> where i can find info about how to conect via wireless my two laptops...
[10:22] <jhutchins> A little HP/IBM unix.
[10:22] <jhutchins> !wireless | darkserver3
[10:22] <ubotu> darkserver3: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:22] <darkserver3> yeah!!
[10:22] <darkserver3> ok
[10:22] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  wireless options show up in the knetworkmanager.
[10:23] <darkserver3> it's because i have solaris 10 in on of then...  and in this is the other man...
[10:23] <darkserver3> knetworkmanager.
[10:23] <darkserver3> ok
[10:24] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Great!  That means your card is enabled!  Do you need further help?
[10:24] <darkserver3> thanks... now i gonna take my time to read...
[10:25] <darkserver3> do you know about arris touchestone cablemodem
[10:25] <darkserver3> ??
[10:25] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  how do we determine the chipset?
[10:26] <jhutchins> lspci (in console)
[10:26] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  what brings you over to kubuntu if you're happy with Mandriva?
[10:27] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  chipset is by Atheros, an AR5212
[10:27] <jhutchins> I want to learn about how debian-based distros do things; I'm not happy with any of the current rpm-based offerings for servers, and debian seems to be the preferred flavor for servers.
[10:28] <house> hi
[10:28] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Ok, you should have all the drivers you need.
[10:28] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  have you ever heard of ZFS?
[10:28] <d_ed> or "Time Machine" if you want to give ZFS a fancy animation too :-D
[10:29] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  does Atheros have good linux support?
[10:29] <jhutchins> sudo apt-get install kwifimanager
[10:29] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Yes.
[10:29] <ZmAY> hello, need some help
[10:29] <d_ed> besonen_mobile: it depends on the chip
[10:29] <d_ed> some work perfectly with mad-wifi
[10:29] <jhutchins> d_ed: True, there aer a few that claim to be atheros and aren't too.
[10:29] <d_ed> (included in ubuntu) others don't at all. and you're left with ndiswrapper
[10:29] <besonen_mobile> ZmAY:  just say what you need.
[10:30] <jhutchins> d_ed: Have you done atheros in kubuntu?
[10:30] <ZmAY> i cant access to the net, error is: No DHCPOFFERS recived
[10:30] <ian6> I'm trying to setup knetworkmanager to work with a vpn on Feisty, but it can't find nm-vpn-properties. I'm not sure which package that's in, does anyone have any advice?
[10:30] <d_ed> jhutchins:  I know mine doesn't
[10:30] <d_ed> but the previous model of my laptop works out the box
[10:30] <ZmAY> i did not change anything
[10:30] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  did you seem my ZFS question?
[10:31] <d_ed> jhutchins: I'm left with ndiswrapper, but ndiswrapper is causing me a kernel freeze
[10:31] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: I'm not really familiar with it.
[10:31] <bxnp> d_ed: dont load the module during boot
[10:31] <bxnp> ndiswrapper
[10:32] <bxnp> or dont you experience the problem during boot d_ed
[10:32] <d_ed> anyway, reason I'm here is I'm being a 'tard. GCC isn't defaulting to include "/usr/include" when runnign standalone
[10:32] <d_ed> it's off in boot
[10:32] <ZmAY> any suggestions what to do?
[10:33] <d_ed> it asplodes on Modprobe..I'll sort that one out myself, I'll just boot up a shiny compiled version with ndis built in . I logged in to talk about my GCC issue
[10:33] <jhutchins> ZmAY: What's your DHCP server?
[10:33] <ZmAY> u mean that 2 servers from my ISP?
[10:33] <fernando> I have lost on my kde sesion many icon for all my programs, for example after I select a program, normally close to the mouse cursor a small icon of the program selected move, but now I always get the same small cube
[10:34] <d_ed> I currently have to run GCC -I /usr/include   and I'm sure that's not normal behaviour.
[10:34] <d_ed> fernando: do you have the icons in your "start menu"?
[10:34] <fernando> yes
[10:34] <ZmAY> it worked fine til today, and i didnt change anything
[10:34] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Restart your networking.
[10:34] <ZmAY> how
[10:35] <fernando> but for example konqueror has lost its icon on the bar
[10:35] <d_ed> fernando: and you've tried logging out and coming back in again?
[10:35] <fernando> also kopete
[10:35] <fernando> yes, I did it
[10:35] <jhutchins> ZmAY: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:35] <d_ed> ok, seems to have lost the tiny icons...
[10:35] <d_ed> sec
[10:35] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  check out ZFS, it looks very promising.  i'd like to see something similar be available for lunix in the near future but that seems unlikely.  thanks again for your help.  gotta run.
[10:36] <fernando> d_ed: sec = shoud I wait??
[10:36] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Good luck!
[10:36] <d_ed> fernando: have you changed icon sets recently?
[10:37] <ZmAY> jhutchins: doesent work
[10:37] <d_ed> foreach app you get two icons a 32x32 and 16x16 you seem to have lost the smaller ones
[10:37] <jhutchins> ZmAY: How are you connected?
[10:37] <ZmAY> jhutchins: send_packet: network is unreachable
[10:38] <fernando> but how??? i did anythink to lose them
[10:38] <ZmAY> what do u mean, with cable:)
[10:38] <d_ed> fernando: okies. try going to settings:/LookNFeel in konqueror
[10:38] <jhutchins> cable modem?
[10:38] <ZmAY> vdsl
[10:38] <d_ed> then click icons. then click "Defaults"
[10:38] <d_ed> setting things to defaults fixes most things
[10:38] <jhutchins> ZmAY: pppoe or direct ethernet?  Do you have to log in?
[10:39] <ZmAY>  direct
[10:39] <jhutchins> Reset the cable modem.
[10:39] <ZmAY> ok, let me try.. brb
[10:39] <fernando> d_ed: I can see settings on konqueror but that is that of LookNFeel
[10:39] <fernando> but what is that of LookNfeel
[10:40] <d_ed> ok...open up control panel
[10:40] <d_ed> and select appearance
[10:40] <d_ed> it's the same thing
[10:40] <fernando> yes.. I dont have icons
[10:40] <d_ed> oh
[10:41] <darkserver3> hey gente... sayonara...
[10:41] <d_ed> are you sure...do a search in control panel
[10:41] <darkserver3> be happy!!!
[10:41] <darkserver3> bye bye!!!
[10:42] <fernando> what should I search??? or it doest matter?
[10:42] <fernando> if I search  "font", then I can see the small icon "font"
[10:43] <ZmAY> same shit
[10:43] <ZmAY> jhutchins: didnt help
[10:44] <fernando> the small icons are there, because if a search now for "slash" then I can see the small icon
[10:44] <jhutchins> ZmAY: How are you on IRC?
[10:44] <slyfox> Is there a program or a way to see which mouse button is mapped how? I need to know which mouse buttons are my mouse buttons, if you knwo what I mean.
[10:44] <ZmAY> have laptop with win on it
[10:44] <fernando> d_ed: the small icons are there, because if a search now for "slash" then I can see the small icon
[10:45] <ZmAY> beside pc
[10:46] <ZmAY> "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[10:46] <ZmAY> no DHCPOFFERS recived
[10:46] <jhutchins> ZmAY: have you had both on at the same time before?
[10:47] <ZmAY> yes
[10:47] <jhutchins> How may IP's does your ISP allow?
[10:47] <ZmAY> 2
[10:48] <seckshooal> Hei.
[10:48] <jhutchins> You understand what the error messages are telling you?
[10:49] <compilerwriter> !floppy disk
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about floppy disk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <seckshooal> Problem: I have mp3 codecs installed, but when I go to burn an audio cd using k3b I get this message. "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:"
[10:49] <ZmAY> tell me, i understand it in this way that there is no dhcp that can be reached
[10:49] <fernando> d_ed: I fix the problem.. so don't worry about it
[10:49] <zaden> Hey room
[10:49] <compilerwriter> How does one go about mounting a floppy disk?
[10:49] <jhutchins> !floppy | compilerwriter
[10:49] <ubotu> compilerwriter: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[10:49] <fernando> d_ed: thanks :-)
[10:50] <zaden> Question, When i try to install  kubuntu cd it says i can not create partions because im not root
[10:50] <d_ed> I'll take that as me fixing it 'coz I'm a genius
[10:50] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Yeah, so there's a good chance it's a problem with your ISP.
[10:50] <zaden> how do i become root and whats the password for root
[10:50] <zaden> i tryed su root
[10:50] <zaden> but i need a password
[10:50] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Have you reset the network since restarting the modem?
[10:50] <ZmAY> so i should call them and ask what
[10:50] <ZmAY> not yet, wait
[10:50] <jhutchins> !sudo | zaden
[10:50] <ubotu> zaden: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:51] <jhutchins> !kdesu | zaden
[10:51] <ubotu> zaden: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:51] <fernando> ????
[10:51] <zaden> so !kdesu zaden?
[10:52] <ZmAY> its the same
[10:52] <honestlyenough> Hello.
[10:52] <jhutchins> zaden: You should read the link above, you do kdesu <application>.
[10:52] <honestlyenough> I've got a really FUBAR'd machine. The CMOS battery, I suspect doesn't function. However, if the CMOS battery doesn't work, is that in any way a cause for this sort of behavior?: http://phpfi.com/215957
[10:52] <honestlyenough> It runs Kubuntu 6.10.
[10:52] <waylandbill> zaden: sudo passwd root  (but you don't normally want to do that)
[10:52] <fernando> how can I change the background of the initial windows on kubuntu??? where is the file with the blue background?
[10:52] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Yeah, I'd check with them.  The only other way would be to reset your windows box, and you might totally loose connectivity then.
[10:52] <waylandbill> zaden: read the sudo link
[10:53] <jhutchins> ZmAY: You may need to avoid mentioning that you're running linux.  Pretent it's a mac or something.
[10:53] <ZmAY> i know that
[10:53] <ZmAY> :9
[10:53] <ZmAY> :)
[10:54] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: That's a wierd one!
[10:54] <ZmAY> but the problem is that net is running smooth here on windows, and the will say it works fine
[10:54] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: Is it possible ntp is getting bad data?
[10:54] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: Indeed.
[10:54] <zaden> ok thanks
[10:54] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Possibly.  Like I said, resetting the windows box might tell you, but you could loose your connection.
[10:54] <zaden> let me se if it works
[10:55] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: No, ntp is not being called intentionally.
[10:55] <ZmAY> ok, let me try:)
[10:55] <ZmAY> brb
[10:55] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: I've never seen a clock do that, it's possible that the clock's fried.
[10:56] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: The clock can't be fried... I'm guessing it's a battery (because that actually makes sense) but then that leads me to wonder, how else can I keep the box from doing this?
[10:56] <jhutchins> Run ntp.
[10:57] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: The clock could be fried - anything can fail.  Has this persisted through a reboot?
[10:57] <bomber> hello
[10:58] <ZmAY> i restarted, same as before
[10:58] <bomber> im running the edgy live cd and want to be able to mount my windows partition read write so i can copy files and im not having any luck
[10:59] <jhutchins> bomber: vfat or ntfs?
[10:59] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: Yes, forever.
[11:00] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: I'm not running ntp to isolate the problem.
[11:00] <bomber> ntfs
[11:00] <jhutchins> !ntfs | bomber
[11:00] <ubotu> bomber: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:00] <bomber> thanks
[11:01] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: ntp's the only thing I know of that will adjust the clock skew.  I'd definitely boot to a live CD or some other OS and see if it was a problem there too.
[11:01] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: You may be looking for nosmoke.exe.
[11:02] <jhutchins> (Software solution to a hardware problem.)
[11:02] <zaden> alrightty
[11:03] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: nosmoke.*exe*?
[11:04] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: Trying to fix something with software that can only be fixed at the hardware level.
[11:04] <zaden> can you link me to sudo and kdesu again please
[11:05] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: But .exe?
[11:05] <compilerwriter> Ok I made the change in /etc/fstab now how do I access my floppy drive
[11:05] <compilerwriter> !mount
[11:05] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:05] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: Old tech support story about a user who was convinced there was a way to stop the smoke.  Tech ended up telling her to take it back to the store because they needed to install nosmoke.exe since it was missing, assumed that the store would deal with the smoke problem once it got there.
[11:05] <compilerwriter> ls
[11:06] <michelangelo> ciao a tutti
[11:07] <michelangelo> c' nessuno?
[11:07] <zaden> how do i use sudo and kdesu
[11:08] <LjL> !sudo > zaden    (zaden, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:09] <compilerwriter> !diskmounter
[11:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:09] <compilerwriter> !fstab
[11:09] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:10] <compilerwriter> I have a windows diskette that I need to read how do I mount it?
[11:11] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, floppy?
[11:11] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, if it's a floppy disk, just insert it and a media detected dialoge box should appear
[11:12] <acemo> anyone here can help me with my bluetooth headset?
[11:13] <bomber> how can i copy the whole drive with cp ? including hidden files and sub direectorys?
[11:14] <compilerwriter> Ashex|work no media detected dialogue box.
[11:14] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, in that case
[11:14] <Ashex|Work> sudo fdisk -l
[11:15] <Ashex|Work> that will list disk volumes by disk
[11:15] <Ashex|Work> floppy will be in there
[11:15] <Ashex|Work> then do a pmount /dev/foo
[11:15] <compilerwriter> Ashex|work no floppy there.
[11:19] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, then either the floppy drive isn't connected, or it is not being detected at all
[11:19] <Ashex|Work> is this on a desktop or laptop?
[11:19] <compilerwriter> It is a desktop
[11:20] <compilerwriter> The floppy drive is connected as far as I can tell.  I used it in windows.
[11:20] <compilerwriter> I mean I used it when my machine was windows.
[11:20] <Ashex|Work> gotcha
[11:20] <Ashex|Work> hmm, did you look for a 1.4MB volume in the output from fdisk -l?
[11:20] <gravygoat> Just looking at the channel topic - Adept is telling me there is a new version of Kubuntu and asking do I want to upgrade, is this actually Feisty or just another test release?
[11:21] <SolidSource> I'm still astonished that someone still uses a floppy
[11:21] <Ashex|Work> gravygoat, I'm pretty sure it's a test release
[11:22] <compilerwriter> Where di I paste again.
[11:22] <gravygoat> Ashex|Work: Thank you
[11:22] <Ashex|Work> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:22] <Ashex|Work> gravygoat, no problem :)
[11:24] <compilerwriter> Ashex|Work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10525/
[11:24] <zaden> im having trouble with sudo and making a user to install kubuntu
[11:24] <zaden> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i -u zaden
[11:24] <zaden> sudo: no passwd entry for zaden!
[11:24] <zaden> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i -u zaden 1
[11:24] <zaden> sudo: no passwd entry for zaden!
[11:24] <compilerwriter> !paste
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:24] <compilerwriter> !paste | zaden
[11:24] <ubotu> zaden: please see above
[11:25] <stdin> zaden: you need to assign a password for the user first "sudo passwd zaden"
[11:25] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, Iooking
[11:25] <Ashex|Work> looking*
[11:25] <alumno> HOLA
[11:25] <alumno> HELLO
[11:26] <zaden> then it says im an unknown user
[11:26] <compilerwriter> I can't remember what I had to do the last time 3 months ago I had to do this.
[11:26] <compilerwriter> I don't use floppys much, but this floppy has my resume on it.
[11:26] <alumno> SPANISH
[11:26] <stdin> zaden: why do you need to make a new user?
[11:26] <compilerwriter> !es | alumno
[11:26] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, that is indeed odd, it doesn't detect it at all
[11:26] <ubotu> alumno: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:26] <zaden> well
[11:27] <zaden> i just want to install kubutu
[11:27] <zaden> since it will not let me use root
[11:27] <zaden> i never used this i used to gentoo
[11:27] <stdin> zaden: don't you see the "install" icon on the desktop ?
[11:27] <zaden> yes
[11:27] <zaden> but
[11:27] <acemo> im trying to connect to my bluetooth headset. when i run sudo btsco -v xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, i get the error "Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Connection refused"
[11:27] <Mena> !pastebin
[11:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:27] <zaden> it will not creat partions
[11:27] <zaden> because i do not have root or some bs
[11:28] <compilerwriter> Ashex|Work do you think I may have accidently disconnected it when I vaccumed it out?
[11:28] <acemo> i think this is because i need to fill in the pin code, but i cant seem to figure out how..
[11:28] <stdin> zaden: huh, what errors do you get?
[11:28] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, it is possibly
[11:28] <Ashex|Work> that would make the most sense to me
[11:28] <Ashex|Work> I'm fairly confident that linux has figured out floppy disk drivers
[11:28] <compilerwriter> I'll shutdown, open it up and look.
[11:28] <Ashex|Work> alright
[11:29] <compilerwriter> thanx.
[11:29] <Ashex|Work> let me know what you find
[11:29] <Ashex|Work> no problem :)
[11:29] <compilerwriter> will do.
[11:29] <zaden> it says
[11:29] <zaden> device not found, YOur many not using root user
[11:29] <Nacht__> does kubuntu have anything like a system restore or backup utility
[11:29] <zaden> in the deskspace section
[11:30] <stdin> !backup | Nacht__
[11:30] <ubotu> Nacht__: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:31] <stdin> zaden: try partitioning your dis first then, "kdesu qtparted" (GUI) or "sudo parted" (CLI), you can use fdisk too
[11:31] <revolution27> Hey.. any ideas why i can't conect to my wireless connection on this new install (never tried wifi before)
[11:31] <revolution27> the connection has no password
[11:32] <stdin> !wifi
[11:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:33] <Nacht__> thanx
[11:33] <zaden> lol
[11:33] <Nacht__> JUST WHAT I NEEDED
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> is it ok that linux uses up almost all of my RAM?
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> it just feels weird having 50mb of free RAM
[11:33] <zaden> brb
[11:34] <stdin> c0nv1ct: yeah, it's normal
[11:34] <stdin> !ram | c0nv1ct
[11:34] <ubotu> c0nv1ct: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[11:34] <c0nv1ct> i figured it uses some sort of management superior to windows :)
[11:34] <c0nv1ct> its always been that way, i just never took the time to understand why :)
[11:35] <stdin> c0nv1ct: it's used as a cache for files, so the disk doesn't need to be read as much
[11:35] <Alonea> I am trying to get the binary driver thing for my video card. it installed ok, but I am still getting mesa. When I do sudo modprobe fglrx, it says : Not loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> stdin: explains why it just shot up after i started copying a large amount of files
[11:36] <stdin> Alonea: did you change the driver in xorg.conf to "fglrx" from "ati" ?
[11:36] <Alonea> stdin: probably not, didnt see it in instructions, but the page is a bit disorganized at points. lemme check.
[11:36] <Nacht__> one more thing    why does it say that 6.10 edgy is only supported for 18 months
[11:37] <stdin> Nacht__: because it's only supported for 18 months
[11:37] <Nacht__> what does that mean
[11:37] <c0nv1ct> !SMP
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <Alonea> stdin: no, it wasn't. brb. gonna restart and see if it works now
[11:37] <Nacht__> like after 18 months they are moving to something else
[11:38] <stdin> Nacht__: after 18 months (from release) there will be no more updates for it
[11:38] <Nacht__> that sucks
[11:38] <Nacht__> so i shouldnt get to attached to it
[11:38] <stdin> Nacht__: no, because you can just upgrade to feisty
[11:38] <judgen> where has the compiz-kde package gone?
[11:38] <stdin> Nacht__: or use dapper (6.06)
[11:38] <Nacht__> ok thats good
[11:38] <comandante> alguem fala portugues?
[11:39] <Nacht__> i was worried there
[11:39] <stdin> !pt
[11:39] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:39] <Ashex|Work> Dapper is the exception, it is called Dapper LTS, long-term support
[11:39] <Ashex|Work> I believe it is supported for 5 years
[11:39] <stdin> !lts
[11:39] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[11:39] <comandante> desculpe...so preciso de ajuda
[11:39] <Ashex|Work> ah, 3, my bad
[11:40] <Ashex|Work> there was a 5 in there!
[11:40] <Nacht__> so i can just download and run dapper and it will update this current load
[11:40] <Alonea> yes! thanks for the tip stdin!
[11:40] <stdin> Alonea: the error message was the best clue :P
[11:41] <stdin> Nacht__: you can't downgrade from edgy to dapper, it will have to be a fresh install, if you want dapper
[11:41] <Alonea> stdin: yeah, I figured it had something to do with my xorg, just not completely familar with all the stuff in it.
[11:41] <Nacht__> damn
[11:41] <Nacht__> sounds like a downgrade to use edgy
[11:42] <stdin> Alonea: I've messed with mine so much, I know it quite well now
[11:42] <Alonea> stdin: yeah, I kinda remember the file and I am so dissapointed it wont work with 64bit linux.
[11:43] <Nacht__> but yeah thanx for the info catch you all laer
[11:43] <Nacht__> later
[11:43] <stdin> Alonea: won't it?
[11:45] <Alonea> stdin: nope. it would not install the ati driver and if I did it through repo I got black screen. to fix black screen you gotta change bios settings and when I did that my computer was so slow I could not even load an application.
[11:45] <stdin> Alonea: ahh, why would you want to use 64bit linux tho?
[11:45] <Alonea> I also had some other stuff that didn't really support 64 bit very well so I just went back to 32. it works and thats what matters the most to me at this point.
[11:46] <Alonea> stdin: I have AMD64. thought I would try it out.
[11:46] <judgen> anyone got a working /usr/local/bin/start-compiz on kubuntu that they wanna share
[11:47] <stdin> Alonea: yeah, but I don't see the point of it, unless you're running a server with 4GB+ RAM and need some high preseason math
[11:48] <compilerwriter> Ashex|Work well everything seems well connected.  But now I can only login via ssh from my PC.  I was doing XDMCP and now I can't get that to work.
[11:48] <judgen> stdin: i have 4gb ram, but i dont really care if i cant use it all. I got solaris for that =)
[11:49] <makuseru> how can i check the version of a program?
[11:49] <Alonea> stdin: yeah. I only have 1 gig of ram on this machine, though my dads computer has 3gigs of it. he has dual core and all that jazz.
[11:49] <judgen> what should kde users replace this line with in the startcompiz.sh script? compiz --replace gconf &
[11:50] <judgen> Alonea: i got 16 cores
[11:50] <maddmax> hey
[11:50] <Alonea> judgen: overkill indeed.
[11:51] <maddmax> hey one question
[11:51] <maddmax> im new here
[11:51] <stdin> judgen: gconf is a gnome app, and compiz sux on kde (installing it anyway). Use beryl instead, works great and you can install aquamarine to keep the current window decorations
[11:51] <maddmax> anyone know how to connect to a server like Hispano?
[11:51] <judgen> Alonea: not for my purposes, its not like i "own" it, im just borrowing it, if you know what i mean.
[11:51] <judgen> !compiz
[11:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:52] <stdin> !beryl
[11:52] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:52] <Alonea> judgen: ah, ok. I was starting to wonder why the hell you would spend all that money for it.
[11:52] <judgen> stdin: beryl really sucks on my computer FGLRX you know
[11:52] <compilerwriter> Ashex|Work are you with me?
[11:52] <Alonea> though I look forward to the days where thats norm
[11:52] <judgen> stdin: or is it possible to run beryl on XGL
[11:53] <stdin> judgen: sure it is
[11:53] <c0nv1ct> but will XGL really increase performance over FGLRX?
[11:53] <skogen> is there any guide for using apache?
[11:53] <acemo> when trying to connect to my bluetooth headset using the command sudo btsco -v xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, im getting this error: Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Connection refused
[11:53] <acemo> what could be wrong?
[11:53] <compilerwriter> It appears that for some reason Kubuntu is not seeing my floppy drive.  I just verified that it is connected.  So what could be the deal?
[11:54] <judgen> c0nv1ct: XGL is definitly faster tha AIGLX with the FGLRX drivers
[11:54] <stdin> judgen: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL
[11:54] <c0nv1ct> judgen: ah, ok, cuz i've noticed AIGLX runs way better with my nvidia card
[11:54] <c0nv1ct> not sure how it works with ATI
[11:55] <stdin> c0nv1ct: on nvidia, yeah, but the ati driver sux
[11:55] <acemo> c0nv1ct: ATI has some mayor problems with AIGLX
[11:55] <c0nv1ct> ok, good to know
[11:55] <ubuntu> allright....so i burned the desktop install iso and did a cd check which resultet in 1 failed checksum...i did a hashcheck then on the downloaded iso which was ok
[11:55] <stdin> best driver ever = i810 :)
[11:55] <c0nv1ct> not like i plan on buying an ATI card ever again though :)
[11:55] <ubuntu> burned it again at slower speed and it gave me 7 failed sums on the cd check
[11:56] <ubuntu> what to do_
[11:56] <ubuntu> ?
[11:56] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: bad media?
[11:56] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: what did you use to burn it?
[11:57] <skogen> join # apache
[11:57] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct:  i dont know...the cds never gave me any problems i could notice so far
[11:57] <ubuntu> and i havent got any other type now
[11:57] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: what program did you use to burn it?
[11:57] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct:  er used roxio easy cd creator...was the only thing i had around on that machine
[11:58] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: you might want to try the free program 'imgburn'
[11:58] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: roxio/nero has made too many coasters for my liking :P
[11:59] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct: what did u mean by coasters? sry english isnt my native language
[11:59] <PhilosophyNinja> What programs work for IMing on Linux besides Kopete?
[11:59] <stdin> !im
[11:59] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[11:59] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: coasters are failed burns, just a friendly term for a useless CD that is only good for a coaster for your drink :P
[11:59] <ubuntu> hey thats an useful bot >(
[11:59] <Alonea> Ok, I think I need to update the firmware on my dvd burner because its not reading some types of blank media correctly. If I can find said firmware upgrade, how would I put it on on linux?
[12:00] <ubuntu> urks...wriong keyboatd layout here sry
[12:00] <PhilosophyNinja> is Trillian linux compatable?
[12:00] <acemo> when trying to connect to my bluetooth headset using the command sudo btsco -v xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, im getting this error: Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Connection refused
[12:00] <acemo> what could be wrong?
[12:00] <kai> wasup people
[12:00] <ubuntu>  c0nv1ct: what did u mean by coasters? sry english isnt my native language
[12:00] <kai> Ccan some one answer this genral question  for me please
[12:00] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: coasters are failed burns
[12:00] <stdin> ubuntu: a coaster is a mat that you rest your cup or glass on to stop it from marking the table
[12:01] <c0nv1ct> stdin: thanks :P
[12:01] <stdin> :)
[12:01] <ubuntu> stdin> pff...thanks a lot hehe
[12:01] <kai> If I have one type of VPN and some else has another kind will they still connect
[12:01] <ubuntu> allright i give it one last try with imgburn
[12:01] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: hes right, a coaster is what a bad burn makes a CD into
[12:01] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, I'm assuming it's connected?
[12:02] <ubuntu> if that doenst do the job i can help it...this is wonderful...hours go by just to burn the fucking install cd lol
[12:02] <compilerwriter> Yes Ashex|Work it is connected.
[12:02] <ubuntu> cant
[12:02] <ubuntu> thx dudes!
[12:02] <compilerwriter> Now I can't seem to get XDCP to work.
[12:02] <ubuntu> bye
[12:03] <kai> can any one help me out?
[12:03] <stdin> !vnc
[12:03] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:04] <TRic2> hello
[12:04] <kai> not vnc
[12:04] <PhilosophyNinja> So how would I go about installing Gaim...
[12:04] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, that is a little strange
[12:04] <kai> well 2 diff vpn client work 2gether?
[12:04] <TRic2> can anyone help me with acidlab
[12:05] <compilerwriter> Perhaps my floppy drive has died?
[12:05] <c0nv1ct> compilerwriter: floppys are obsolete anyway :P
[12:06] <TRic2> has anyone used acidlab
[12:06] <compilerwriter> True: but a woman worked very hard to write a nice resume for me and she put it on a floppy.
[12:06] <stdin> kai: try looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[12:06] <stdin> kai: afaik it should work
[12:06] <TRic2> anyone
[12:06] <c0nv1ct> compilerwriter: a real professional would of used a CD :P
[12:07] <Alonea> people still use floppys when you can get thumbdrives for cheap?
[12:07] <acemo> when trying to connect to my bluetooth headset using the command sudo btsco -v xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, im getting this error: Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Connection refused
[12:07] <acemo> what could be wrong?
[12:07] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: and when a CD costs less than 50cents
[12:07] <TRic2> thumbdrives are the new floppys
[12:07] <stdin> !bluetooth
[12:07] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:07] <c0nv1ct> i <3 my thumbdrive
[12:07] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: that too. and hell, my employers are like, e-mail me your resume ok?
[12:07] <TRic2> how about instrictions on acidlab
[12:08] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: yeah, even paper is bordering obsolete
[12:08] <TRic2> no paper will never be obsolete
[12:08] <c0nv1ct> my printer broke like 2 years ago, i havent had a need for it
[12:08] <stdin> never say never
[12:08] <compilerwriter> That is not helping me at the moment c0nv1ct
[12:08] <TRic2> i aint going to wipe my but with a cd
[12:08] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: its easier to find documents on a computer.
[12:09] <jasnlkngasdfg> ola
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> TRic2: maybe seashells in the future?
[12:09] <TRic2> the three seashells
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> if anyone gets my movie reference
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> yes! lol
[12:09] <Alonea> compilerwriter: as for getting your floppy to work, not sure. is it just not mounting it right or not mounting at all?
[12:09] <TRic2> i dont think so
[12:09] <compilerwriter> I would love to know how in the hell I managed to screw up my xdcmp by shutting down my machine and then opening it.
[12:09] <TRic2> the fith element
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> no, that was... damn i forgot the movie
[12:10] <patrick_> i get the Demolition Man reference. :-)
[12:10] <compilerwriter> Alonea from what ashex said the OS is not seeing the drive period.
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> yes! that one
[12:10] <TRic2> o sorry
[12:10] <TRic2> man i was off
[12:10] <Ashex|Work> Alonea, this is compilerwriter's output for fdisk -l with the floppy inserted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10525/
[12:10] <TRic2> i just got that movie in my head
[12:11] <eilker> what is PS/2 ?
[12:11] <TRic2> the port u connect ur mouse and keyboard 2
[12:11] <TRic2> or playstation 2
[12:11] <eilker> it says my mouse is ExplorerPS/2 ? is it correct ?
[12:11] <patrick_> Has anyone tried DosEmu or DosBox on Kubuntu?
[12:11] <Ashex|Work> I used to think that PS/2 was playstation divided by two
[12:11] <c0nv1ct> yeah, that works eilker
[12:11] <patrick_> I can't get either program working.
[12:12] <TRic2> no its ps^2
[12:12] <eilker> my mouse is freezing oftenly....
[12:12] <patrick_> I just did a fresh install of Feisty Fawn Herd 5 last night.
[12:12] <eilker> and it is not regular
[12:12] <Ashex|Work> !google | patrick_
[12:12] <ubotu> patrick_: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[12:12] <patrick_> really? cool