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soundrayHi `Lucas02:20
`LucasHi!02:20
soundrayShoot02:21
`Lucassoundray, so what can I do?02:22
`LucasHere is the error that I get: http://rcbsports.com/myspace/165923681285_3300_1.jpg02:23
soundray`Lucas: what I told you. See if you can run memtest86, it's on the boot menu02:24
`LucasOhh, ok.02:24
`LucasI missed that.02:24
`LucasIts running right now!02:25
`LucasDoes it end, or does it keep on going?02:27
soundray`Lucas: it keeps going. It's best to run it for a few hours at least02:34
phewlLol02:34
`LucasAhh! :(02:34
`LucasOhh well.02:34
soundray`Lucas: anless it reports errors, in which case you can stop and replace your RAM ;)02:34
`LucasWould it mean it has a red background?02:35
`Lucasb/c it ran and it has a red background.02:35
soundray`Lucas: I'm used to it having a blue background, so it could mean something. But it's best if you read what it says! ;)02:37
phewl=] 02:40
`LucasHow would I know if it has an error?02:40
soundray`Lucas: it says somewhere on the screen how many errors it has found and what kind.02:40
`LucasSo: http://rcbsports.com/myspace/165926224517_290_1.jpg02:43
`LucasSo the pic above is a bad thing isn't it?02:45
soundray`Lucas: depends on how you frame the experience :)02:46
soundray`Lucas: at least you can be pretty sure that your boot problems are due to faulty RAM02:47
`LucasSo basically my computer is a peice of crap?02:47
phewlno02:49
phewlbasically your ram is crap02:49
phewl:)02:49
`LucasWell, how much does ram normally cost?02:51
soundray`Lucas: RAM doesn't cost much any more. Just make sure you get the right kind, and go for 512MB or more02:51
`LucasI haven't been hardware shopping for a long time.02:51
`LucasAlright, cool.02:51
soundray`Lucas: where are you located?02:51
`LucasWest Virginia, in the United States.02:51
`LucasEast Coast02:52
soundray`Lucas: yeah, I know my US geography ;)02:52
soundray`Lucas: don't know any local RAM retailers, though.02:52
`LucasI am an IT-Tech intern for the Board of Education, but I haven't worked with linux before, except when I had my IRCd shell.02:52
`LucasAhh, I know Wal-Mart has a few.02:52
soundrayI had a good experience with Mushkin once, don't know if they're still around02:53
`LucasBasically this is my old work computer from the field house. (I am the head sports mananger for my school) so I got a new computer and thought I would give something new a try.02:53
`LucasSo what is the difference between this and Fedora?02:53
`LucasI tried Fedora, but it wouldn't install either.02:54
soundray`Lucas: any Linux version will fail on faulty RAM -- in fact any OS will02:54
`LucasI know that now!02:54
`Lucas:P02:54
`LucasBut I am sorta mad, b/c I don't have windows on there either.02:55
`LucasSo right now, its useless to me!02:55
soundrayFedora doesn't have the slick, well-designed package management, which is enough for me not to try it.02:55
`Lucaslol02:55
soundrayI had a predecessor once, RedHat 4.102:55
soundraySoon switched to Debian and was much happier.02:56
`LucasWell, I never heard of any other os besides windows and mac until about three years ago.02:56
`LucasR u using Debian now?02:56
soundray`Lucas: yes, on my teevee (vdr personal video recorder)02:56
`LucasOhh, then how did you get involved with ubuntu?02:57
soundrayBut all the rest is ubuntu. Have switched all my family as well: Wife, son, mum, dad, brother...02:57
`LucasAhh.02:57
`LucasIs it possible to run ubuntu on a laptop with good performance?02:58
soundrayYes, of course, why not?02:58
`LucasWell, first I have to order a new disk drive for my laptop, I stepped on my last one and broke the lid.02:59
soundrayOh no!02:59
`LucasThen I tripped over my wireless usb reciever and broke my second laptop, which only had one usb port.02:59
`Lucasso now I am laptopless.02:59
`LucasWhat I normally do is take old computers and make then like new.03:00
`LucasAdd all new hardware, software, etc.03:00
soundraySounds like you should re-think your office organization in terms of spatial arrangements03:00
`LucasOhh, that wasn't at the office, thats me on my free time at home.03:01
soundrayYou'll love ubuntu, because you rarely have to go beyond what's in the official software repositories03:01
`LucasBut I never had any troubles in the past booting stuff up.03:01
soundrayMy guess is you won't, once you've got good RAM03:01
`LucasWell, I am new to linux, which I  was sorta rethinking about it, but I am going to take a chance and go for it.03:02
soundrayJust try a Desktop CD on your work machine. It's a bit slow to launch things from CD, but it gives you an impression without having to touch existing Windows or other installations03:03
`LucasYeah, this computer that I remixed (thats the term I use for fixing computers) isn't bad except that.  I ran out of time to go and get ram, but it has everything except a new Processor, which I normally don't touch.03:03
`LucasYeah, thats the only thing I am scared about.  So if I do that on the computer now, it wont mess anything up?03:03
soundrayNo, the Desktop CD is a full-blown system that runs without modifying anything.03:04
`LucasNow does it install anything?03:04
soundrayUbuntu in general is very good about telling you when you're about to make a permanent change.03:04
soundrayOnly when you double-click the installer icon and go through the setup.03:05
`LucasSo how does the live cd go?  I put it in boot it up and then what?03:05
soundrayIt shows a desktop with icons, panels, task lists -- not too far from what you're used to in Windows.03:06
`LucasSo then if I wanted to make it perment, how would I do that.03:07
soundray`Lucas: actually the one that you have won't -- it's an Alternate install CD03:07
soundray!alternate03:07
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.03:07
`LucasI have both of them.03:07
soundray`Lucas: you'd run the installer03:07
`LucasAlright, I am going to give it a try!03:07
soundrayIt will guide you through the setup, including partitioning03:07
`LucasBBS, I hope!03:08
soundrayjust one more pointer:03:08
soundray!faq03:08
ubotufaq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage03:08
soundray-- excellent places to start if you have trouble03:08
`LucasAhh, cool, thanks.03:08
`LucasI shall give this a try.03:09
`LucasSee you soon!03:09
soundrayI'm off -- hope to see you around.03:09
soundrayGood luck03:09
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