=== merriam [n=merriam@84-12-154-117.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DM| [n=dm@cpe-65-31-7-98.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === soundray [n=rolf@dsl-217-155-44-246.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === phewl [n=lysol@209.78.171.237] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === `Lucas [n=luke@pool-72-84-50-121.clrkwv.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:20] Hi `Lucas [02:20] <`Lucas> Hi! [02:21] Shoot [02:22] <`Lucas> soundray, so what can I do? [02:23] <`Lucas> Here is the error that I get: http://rcbsports.com/myspace/165923681285_3300_1.jpg [02:24] `Lucas: what I told you. See if you can run memtest86, it's on the boot menu [02:24] <`Lucas> Ohh, ok. [02:24] <`Lucas> I missed that. [02:25] <`Lucas> Its running right now! [02:27] <`Lucas> Does it end, or does it keep on going? [02:34] `Lucas: it keeps going. It's best to run it for a few hours at least [02:34] Lol [02:34] <`Lucas> Ahh! :( [02:34] <`Lucas> Ohh well. [02:34] `Lucas: anless it reports errors, in which case you can stop and replace your RAM ;) [02:35] <`Lucas> Would it mean it has a red background? [02:35] <`Lucas> b/c it ran and it has a red background. [02:37] `Lucas: I'm used to it having a blue background, so it could mean something. But it's best if you read what it says! ;) [02:40] =] [02:40] <`Lucas> How would I know if it has an error? [02:40] `Lucas: it says somewhere on the screen how many errors it has found and what kind. [02:43] <`Lucas> So: http://rcbsports.com/myspace/165926224517_290_1.jpg [02:45] <`Lucas> So the pic above is a bad thing isn't it? [02:46] `Lucas: depends on how you frame the experience :) [02:47] `Lucas: at least you can be pretty sure that your boot problems are due to faulty RAM [02:47] <`Lucas> So basically my computer is a peice of crap? [02:49] no [02:49] basically your ram is crap [02:49] :) [02:51] <`Lucas> Well, how much does ram normally cost? [02:51] `Lucas: RAM doesn't cost much any more. Just make sure you get the right kind, and go for 512MB or more [02:51] <`Lucas> I haven't been hardware shopping for a long time. [02:51] <`Lucas> Alright, cool. [02:51] `Lucas: where are you located? [02:51] <`Lucas> West Virginia, in the United States. [02:52] <`Lucas> East Coast [02:52] `Lucas: yeah, I know my US geography ;) [02:52] `Lucas: don't know any local RAM retailers, though. [02:52] <`Lucas> I am an IT-Tech intern for the Board of Education, but I haven't worked with linux before, except when I had my IRCd shell. [02:52] <`Lucas> Ahh, I know Wal-Mart has a few. [02:53] I had a good experience with Mushkin once, don't know if they're still around [02:53] <`Lucas> Basically this is my old work computer from the field house. (I am the head sports mananger for my school) so I got a new computer and thought I would give something new a try. [02:53] <`Lucas> So what is the difference between this and Fedora? [02:54] <`Lucas> I tried Fedora, but it wouldn't install either. [02:54] `Lucas: any Linux version will fail on faulty RAM -- in fact any OS will [02:54] <`Lucas> I know that now! [02:54] <`Lucas> :P [02:55] <`Lucas> But I am sorta mad, b/c I don't have windows on there either. [02:55] <`Lucas> So right now, its useless to me! [02:55] Fedora doesn't have the slick, well-designed package management, which is enough for me not to try it. [02:55] <`Lucas> lol [02:55] I had a predecessor once, RedHat 4.1 [02:56] Soon switched to Debian and was much happier. [02:56] <`Lucas> Well, I never heard of any other os besides windows and mac until about three years ago. [02:56] <`Lucas> R u using Debian now? [02:56] `Lucas: yes, on my teevee (vdr personal video recorder) [02:57] <`Lucas> Ohh, then how did you get involved with ubuntu? [02:57] But all the rest is ubuntu. Have switched all my family as well: Wife, son, mum, dad, brother... [02:57] <`Lucas> Ahh. [02:58] <`Lucas> Is it possible to run ubuntu on a laptop with good performance? [02:58] Yes, of course, why not? [02:59] <`Lucas> Well, first I have to order a new disk drive for my laptop, I stepped on my last one and broke the lid. [02:59] Oh no! [02:59] <`Lucas> Then I tripped over my wireless usb reciever and broke my second laptop, which only had one usb port. [02:59] <`Lucas> so now I am laptopless. [03:00] <`Lucas> What I normally do is take old computers and make then like new. [03:00] <`Lucas> Add all new hardware, software, etc. [03:00] Sounds like you should re-think your office organization in terms of spatial arrangements [03:01] <`Lucas> Ohh, that wasn't at the office, thats me on my free time at home. [03:01] You'll love ubuntu, because you rarely have to go beyond what's in the official software repositories [03:01] <`Lucas> But I never had any troubles in the past booting stuff up. [03:01] My guess is you won't, once you've got good RAM [03:02] <`Lucas> Well, I am new to linux, which I was sorta rethinking about it, but I am going to take a chance and go for it. [03:03] Just try a Desktop CD on your work machine. It's a bit slow to launch things from CD, but it gives you an impression without having to touch existing Windows or other installations [03:03] <`Lucas> Yeah, this computer that I remixed (thats the term I use for fixing computers) isn't bad except that. I ran out of time to go and get ram, but it has everything except a new Processor, which I normally don't touch. [03:03] <`Lucas> Yeah, thats the only thing I am scared about. So if I do that on the computer now, it wont mess anything up? [03:04] No, the Desktop CD is a full-blown system that runs without modifying anything. [03:04] <`Lucas> Now does it install anything? [03:04] Ubuntu in general is very good about telling you when you're about to make a permanent change. [03:05] Only when you double-click the installer icon and go through the setup. [03:05] <`Lucas> So how does the live cd go? I put it in boot it up and then what? [03:06] It shows a desktop with icons, panels, task lists -- not too far from what you're used to in Windows. [03:07] <`Lucas> So then if I wanted to make it perment, how would I do that. [03:07] `Lucas: actually the one that you have won't -- it's an Alternate install CD [03:07] !alternate [03:07] The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD. [03:07] <`Lucas> I have both of them. [03:07] `Lucas: you'd run the installer [03:07] <`Lucas> Alright, I am going to give it a try! [03:07] It will guide you through the setup, including partitioning [03:08] <`Lucas> BBS, I hope! [03:08] just one more pointer: [03:08] !faq [03:08] faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage [03:08] -- excellent places to start if you have trouble [03:08] <`Lucas> Ahh, cool, thanks. [03:09] <`Lucas> I shall give this a try. [03:09] <`Lucas> See you soon! [03:09] I'm off -- hope to see you around. 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