| bodhi_zazen | etchian_ you are welcome to come on over any time :) | 12:17 |
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| mdke | nixternal: not sure about the firefox page. For everything else, you just wait | 12:29 |
| etchian_ | Tx, bodhi_zazen | 12:41 |
| bodhi_zazen | LOL, I should be thanking you for bringing that wiki page to my attention :) | 12:41 |
| LaserJock | hi mdke | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | are you really up? it's gotta be really late or really early | 12:43 |
| etchian_ | Well, I was reading the wiki... | 12:44 |
| mdke | LaserJock: going to bed now | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | mdke: do you still need a list of Edubuntu topics for yelp? | 01:11 |
| mdke | LaserJock: yep please, with scrollkeeper ids if possible | 01:11 |
| LaserJock | mdke: ok, I'll get that cleared up and email you | 01:12 |
| mdke | thanks | 01:12 |
| mdke | I thought there would just be one | 01:12 |
| mdke | how many are there? | 01:12 |
| LaserJock | well, About Edubuntu and the Edubuntu Handbook for sure | 01:14 |
| LaserJock | we also have a short sort of advocacy/marketing type doc in the repo | 01:14 |
| LaserJock | as well as Release Notes which we are going to remove | 01:15 |
| LaserJock | the advocacy doc would be similar to the About Edubuntu I suppose | 01:15 |
| mdke | we haven't got about ubuntu in the list for Ubuntu, on the basis that it isn't Help | 01:15 |
| mdke | you could maybe think about something similar, just have it in the menu... | 01:15 |
| mdke | anyhow, shoot me an email | 01:15 |
| LaserJock | in the gnome menu? | 01:15 |
| mdke | yes | 01:16 |
| LaserJock | ahh, not sure how hard that'd be | 01:16 |
| LaserJock | I'll ask ogra and get back to you | 01:16 |
| mdke | I assumed it was there already | 01:16 |
| LaserJock | no | 01:16 |
| mdke | ok | 01:16 |
| LaserJock | so far Edubuntu menus and help have been entirely Ubuntu | 01:16 |
| mdke | I'll wait for your email, no immediate rush anyhow, it's not a string break | 01:16 |
| mdke | good night | 01:16 |
| LaserJock | this is the first release that'll have any sort of Edubuntu branding for docs | 01:16 |
| LaserJock | cya | 01:16 |
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| jjesse | wow trying to move from one laptop to another is a pain, especially when you have 5 virtual machines :) | 01:55 |
| LaserJock | lol | 01:56 |
| jjesse | seriously don't know what i'm going to do :) | 01:56 |
| jjesse | 4 hours left on my transfer | 01:57 |
| jjesse | but i love the resolution | 01:57 |
| jjesse | !beryl | 01:57 |
| jjesse | doh wrong one | 01:57 |
| jjesse | nixternal: ping | 01:58 |
| jjesse | nixternal: you are doing 3d right? | 01:58 |
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| jjesse | ok got beryl to work on my laptop, it looks great | 02:32 |
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| CIA-10 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r3980 / (19 files in 19 dirs): updating pot templates, some new strings | 09:24 |
| CIA-10 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r3981 /debian/changelog: changelog entry | 09:26 |
| mdke | crap, ubuntu/windows/C/windows.xml isn't working very well | 09:41 |
| mdke | mpt: about that. At the moment we've simply imported wholesale a few of the chapters from the "Switching from Windows" guide, but it isn't working | 09:42 |
| mdke | mpt: for a start, the chapter on migrating cross refers heavily to the chapter on "preparing", which we've omitted | 09:42 |
| mdke | mpt: your ideas about how to solve that are appreciated!!! :) | 09:42 |
| mdke | and anyone else's too | 09:42 |
| mpt | mdke, has anyone translated it yet? | 09:54 |
| CIA-10 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r3982 / (4 files in 4 dirs): | 09:56 |
| CIA-10 | Ubuntu Documentation: * fixing invalidity in administrative.xml - string freeze | 09:56 |
| CIA-10 | Ubuntu Documentation: exception, sorry but it's unavoidable | 09:56 |
| CIA-10 | Ubuntu Documentation: * removing pot template for switching to windows - this is not to be | 09:56 |
| CIA-10 | Ubuntu Documentation: translated | 09:56 |
| mdke | mpt: no | 09:56 |
| mpt | mdke, so are there any administrative problems with breaking string freeze in that case? | 09:56 |
| mdke | mpt: no, it's bad enough that if we do it quickly it should be no problem | 09:57 |
| mdke | what are you thinking? | 09:57 |
| mpt | altering it to remove the references | 09:57 |
| mdke | I was thinking that the "preparing" and "migrating" chapters are kinda interdependent | 09:58 |
| mdke | not sure that one can sit ok without the other | 09:58 |
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| mdke | maybe we should include the preparing chapter, after all people who've installed a dual boot system can go back to windows and do that stuff | 10:00 |
| mpt | oh, "and have followed the instructions in the chapter" | 10:00 |
| mpt | ___ chapter | 10:00 |
| mpt | hrmmm | 10:00 |
| mpt | I see | 10:01 |
| mpt | mdke, I concur | 10:01 |
| mpt | Including the chapter would be better | 10:01 |
| mdke | ok, we'll do that | 10:02 |
| mdke | i'll raise it on the ML | 10:04 |
| mdke | thanks mpt | 10:04 |
| mdke | --> work | 10:05 |
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| philbull | Hi guys | 12:22 |
| philbull | Could someone take a look at bug 92227 for me please? | 12:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 92227 in ubuntu-doc "Wrong url for Scribus in ubuntu-docs/office for Feisty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92227 | 12:23 |
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| CIA-5 | Ubuntu Documentation: philbull feisty * r3983 /ubuntu/office/C/office.xml: Correct url for scribus (closes bug #92227) | 02:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 92227 in ubuntu-doc "Wrong url for Scribus in ubuntu-docs/office for Feisty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92227 | 02:13 |
| CIA-5 | Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r3984 ubuntu/office/C/office.xml: Fix url for Scribus | 02:16 |
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| nixternal | mdke: I was wondering what the manual uploads/fixes we had to do for docs were? Also how do I go about getting the firefox-startpage (kindex.html) translated for Kubuntu? | 03:01 |
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| Knightlust | nixternal: yeah, im here, its pretty minor, its just that i dont think it's only Kubuntu who has it. i think all the other distro has it and accdg. to the copyright, it was last updated 2002 and we just need to add a feature | 05:04 |
| Knightlust | well, will be documenting this and i'll pm you before i send my draft. | 05:04 |
| Knightlust | or do i file this as bug? | 05:05 |
| nixternal | what doc are we talking about? | 05:18 |
| Knightlust | nixternal, the kooka doc | 05:18 |
| nixternal | have you checked websvn.kde.org to see if the kooka doc is the same there as it is in Kubuntu? | 05:19 |
| nixternal | actually, Knightlust this would 99.9% of the time be a KDE issue | 05:19 |
| Knightlust | that's what i thought, that's why i asked in #kde-docs. well, im checking on the process | 05:20 |
| Knightlust | and thanks for your help nixternal | 05:20 |
| nixternal | Knightlust: no problem. just to note, this issue hasn't been reported in bugs.kde.org so you would be fine adding that as a bug, and then note in it that you are working on it | 05:22 |
| LaserJock | mdke: got a sec? | 05:54 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: available? | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | my contentless pings seem to be usless against their /ignore LaserJock :-) | 06:32 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: in a few. I am leaving class right now | 06:38 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: what's up? | 06:58 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: well, I was digging around to figure out what to do with About Edubuntu | 07:02 |
| nixternal | the newest one I created? | 07:02 |
| LaserJock | About Ubuntu is done via a .desktop file shipped with gnome-panel-data | 07:02 |
| LaserJock | so it appears in the System menu | 07:03 |
| nixternal | create an aboutedubuntu.desktop | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | I think we could ship an About Edubuntu in edubuntu-docs | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | and I think it should add to the menu | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | then the only think we'll add to the yelp frontpage is the Handbook | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | I'm waiting for my feisty machine at work to dist-upgrade so I can test it out | 07:04 |
| nixternal | cool | 07:04 |
| nixternal | where at in the repos is the about ubuntu .desktop? | 07:05 |
| dsas | gnome-panel-data | 07:07 |
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| nixternal | mdke: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/820 <- needs editing and posting ASAP - HUGE STORY! | 07:27 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: oh? | 07:27 |
| nixternal | Ubuntu is now in a system that helps with the treatment of HIV+ | 07:28 |
| nixternal | w/o a doubt the most "Ubuntu" type story I have seen to date. Definitely doing good! | 07:28 |
| nixternal | I can't send email to the list either from school as they jammed all of the ports | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | I could dig up some good chemistry ones ;-) | 07:29 |
| nixternal | heh | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | not sure if our HIV researchers are using Ubuntu here | 07:29 |
| nixternal | but helping treat such a horrible disease. that is pretty big | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | but the big nanomaterials group does quite a bit | 07:29 |
| nixternal | heh | 07:29 |
| nixternal | I have no clue wth nanomaterials is, beside small materials ;p | 07:29 |
| nixternal | sounds like my wallet | 07:30 |
| LaserJock | the future, that's what they are ;-) | 07:30 |
| nixternal | OK, that is all you had to say, I know what they are working on then | 07:30 |
| nixternal | nanotechnology | 07:30 |
| nixternal | my dad is getting involved with that in the broadcast engineering field right now | 07:30 |
| LaserJock | it's just a buzz word to get funding :-) | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | hardly any of the stuff is really "nano" | 07:31 |
| nixternal | I want to see that OLED screen where they have fit like a 1024x768 resolution in a 1" square | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: I've seen a ship where they put 10,000 miniture diving boards in less than 1" sq | 07:39 |
| nixternal | heh | 07:39 |
| nixternal | wth | 07:40 |
| LaserJock | all hooked up to individual electrical leads | 07:40 |
| LaserJock | science is fun! ;-) | 07:41 |
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| nixternal | midterm time, back in a bit | 07:43 |
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| Knightlust | nixternal, do you know where the kubuntu feisty desktop is located? is it still under development? | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | Knightlust: how do you mean? | 08:03 |
| Knightlust | LaserJock, is it online? like the desktop guide found in help.ubuntu.com | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | sure | 08:04 |
| Knightlust | the edgy is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html ... so how about the one for feisty? | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | all the in-progress docs are hosed on doc.ubuntu.com | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | we only put them on help.ubuntu.com once they have been released | 08:05 |
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| Knightlust | ohh, thanks for answering my question LaserJock. appreciate it | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | Knightlust: no problem | 08:06 |
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| mdke | nixternal: looking now, presumably too late? | 09:01 |
| dsas | hmm, ubuntu-docs is solely licensed under cc-by-sa now? | 09:02 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: do you know off hand how the About Ubuntu item gets there? | 09:02 |
| mdke | dsas: most of it | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | dsas: well, certain parts are GPL, scripts and stuff | 09:02 |
| mdke | LaserJock: it's in gnome-panel I guess | 09:03 |
| dsas | LaserJock: the one in the menus comes from gnome-panel-data | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | if it only looks for GPL in the copyright it will find GPL | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | I know *where* it comes from | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | I'm trying to figure out how it gets in the menu | 09:03 |
| mdke | nixternal: for translations - no need to do any uploads as long as the pot templates are in the package in the archive, I've asked carlos to handle everything else | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | I'm thinking it's got to be hard coded somewhere | 09:03 |
| mdke | nixternal: as for firefox, no idea - we do it manually | 09:03 |
| mdke | LaserJock: ask seb I guess | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | mdke: that's not my favorite answer, but oh well | 09:04 |
| mdke | it's the only one I guess | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | mdke: is relation seriesid="ca0556e4-b4db-11db-866f-a1b2f0a0b745" what you are looking for the yelp frontpage? | 09:05 |
| mdke | LaserJock: that sort of thing yeah | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | mdke: what more do you need? we decided the Edubuntu Handbook would be all we'll put in | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | so that's the seriesid in the .omf | 09:06 |
| mdke | LaserJock: that's enough then | 09:06 |
| mdke | can you mail it too, I'm a bit frantic atm | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | mdke: np, do you need a description too or just name and series id? | 09:07 |
| mdke | that's fine | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | k, it'll be too you shortly | 09:07 |
| mdke | ty | 09:08 |
| dsas | LaserJock: it's hardcoded in gnome-panel indeed | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | :( | 09:08 |
| dsas | it gets copied in the debian/gnome-panel-data.install file | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | well, yeah | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | that's where it is installed | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | I need to figure out how it gets in the menu | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | I copied the about-ubuntu.desktop to about-edubuntu.desktop and changed the names | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | left the Categories the same, etc. | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | but it doesn't seem to show up | 09:09 |
| dsas | ah, sorry. I completely misunderstood. | 09:10 |
| LaserJock | np | 09:10 |
| dsas | LaserJock: ok, i actually found it this time. it's hardcoded in debian/patches/01_layout.patch | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | in gnome-panel? | 09:13 |
| dsas | + if (g_file_test (DATADIR"/omf/about-ubuntu/about-ubuntu-C.omf", | 09:13 |
| dsas | + G_FILE_TEST_IS_REGULAR)) | 09:13 |
| dsas | + panel_menu_items_append_from_desktop (menu, "ubuntu-about.desktop", NULL); | 09:13 |
| dsas | LaserJock: yeah | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | freaking heck | 09:14 |
| dsas | I guess you can put a edubuntu one in there looking at that patch... | 09:14 |
| LaserJock | it makes it so hard on any derivative to hard code everything | 09:14 |
| dsas | not that I know much about C and less about gnome :) | 09:14 |
| LaserJock | dsas: no, thanks a ton | 09:14 |
| LaserJock | I'm pretty sure I grepped that but I guess not | 09:14 |
| dsas | no problem. it gave me an excuse to procastinate. | 09:15 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 09:17 |
| LaserJock | glad I could help | 09:17 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: pingy pingy | 10:20 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: pongy pongy :) | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: you feel like doing some edubuntu-docs packaging? | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 10:23 |
| nixternal | I can do that | 10:23 |
| nixternal | give me a few minutes if possible | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | well, I just wondered if you wanted to do it | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | I opened a bug against gnome-panel to get us a menu item | 10:24 |
| nixternal | ahh, OK | 10:24 |
| nixternal | sure, I can do it here in a bit | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | but we need to install a .desktop :-) | 10:24 |
| nixternal | easy | 10:24 |
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| mdke | LaserJock: what is the handbook omf file called? I can't find it | 10:32 |
| mdke | ah, I see it now | 10:35 |
| mdke | LaserJock: the other thing I need to know is where it should go in the list | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm not sure | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | I'd say 1st or right above Advanced Topics | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | it might be good to have all the Ubuntu content first | 10:37 |
| mdke | lemme know :) | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | before they launch into the Handbook | 10:37 |
| mdke | ah, the new website is out | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: what do you think? | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | it is? finally | 10:37 |
| nixternal | I think I am hungry ;p | 10:37 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: I would say dead last with the handbook since it is a work in progress. However...I would like people to read it and file bugs against it as well | 10:38 |
| nixternal | so maybe dead last will either keep it out of their view | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: so how about right before Advanced Topics | 10:38 |
| nixternal | sounds good to me | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | Advanced Topics is kinda like a "everything else" thing | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | mdke: right above Advanced Topics it is :-) | 10:39 |
| mdke | ok | 10:39 |
| nixternal | that was easy :) | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | executive decisions | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | much easier than KDE4 in Universe debate :-) | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | mdke: is the new website drupal? | 10:45 |
| mdke | yes | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | what was it before? | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | moin? | 10:46 |
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| mdke | yeah | 10:46 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #92658 in ubuntu-docs (main) "debian/copyright information is incorrect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92658 | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | ? | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | dsas: pingy pingy | 10:52 |
| === mdke hands that bug to LaserJock | ||
| LaserJock | well, it's wrong | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | as far as I can tell | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | I need to figure out what version he's looking at | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | I think everything is consistent and correct unless I overlooked some minor detail :/ | 10:55 |
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| dsas | Laser_away: pong! | 11:15 |
| dsas | version 7.03.2 in the debian/copyright file | 11:15 |
| dsas | Laser_away: actually. it's me being wrong (again!) | 11:16 |
| dsas | i was looking at an old svn checkout, rather than the version I apt-get sourced. | 11:17 |
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