[12:17] etchian_ you are welcome to come on over any time :) === mdke [n=matt@212-139-78-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:29] nixternal: not sure about the firefox page. For everything else, you just wait [12:41] Tx, bodhi_zazen [12:41] LOL, I should be thanking you for bringing that wiki page to my attention :) [12:43] hi mdke [12:43] are you really up? it's gotta be really late or really early [12:44] Well, I was reading the wiki... [01:10] LaserJock: going to bed now [01:11] mdke: do you still need a list of Edubuntu topics for yelp? [01:11] LaserJock: yep please, with scrollkeeper ids if possible [01:12] mdke: ok, I'll get that cleared up and email you [01:12] thanks [01:12] I thought there would just be one [01:12] how many are there? [01:14] well, About Edubuntu and the Edubuntu Handbook for sure [01:14] we also have a short sort of advocacy/marketing type doc in the repo [01:15] as well as Release Notes which we are going to remove [01:15] the advocacy doc would be similar to the About Edubuntu I suppose [01:15] we haven't got about ubuntu in the list for Ubuntu, on the basis that it isn't Help [01:15] you could maybe think about something similar, just have it in the menu... [01:15] anyhow, shoot me an email [01:15] in the gnome menu? [01:16] yes [01:16] ahh, not sure how hard that'd be [01:16] I'll ask ogra and get back to you [01:16] I assumed it was there already [01:16] no [01:16] ok [01:16] so far Edubuntu menus and help have been entirely Ubuntu [01:16] I'll wait for your email, no immediate rush anyhow, it's not a string break [01:16] good night [01:16] this is the first release that'll have any sort of Edubuntu branding for docs [01:16] cya === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #ubuntu-doc === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-154-117.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:55] wow trying to move from one laptop to another is a pain, especially when you have 5 virtual machines :) [01:56] lol [01:56] seriously don't know what i'm going to do :) [01:57] 4 hours left on my transfer [01:57] but i love the resolution [01:57] !beryl [01:57] doh wrong one [01:58] nixternal: ping [01:58] nixternal: you are doing 3d right? === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:32] ok got beryl to work on my laptop, it looks great === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Admiral_Chicago [n=Admiral_@adsl-69-209-70-170.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === CIA-10 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #ubuntu-doc === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-154-117.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === bodhizazen [n=bodhizaz@host-69-144-246-69.hln-mt.client.bresnan.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@S0106001150603f7d.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-219.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:24] Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r3980 / (19 files in 19 dirs): updating pot templates, some new strings [09:26] Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r3981 /debian/changelog: changelog entry [09:41] crap, ubuntu/windows/C/windows.xml isn't working very well [09:42] mpt: about that. At the moment we've simply imported wholesale a few of the chapters from the "Switching from Windows" guide, but it isn't working [09:42] mpt: for a start, the chapter on migrating cross refers heavily to the chapter on "preparing", which we've omitted [09:42] mpt: your ideas about how to solve that are appreciated!!! :) [09:42] and anyone else's too [09:54] mdke, has anyone translated it yet? [09:56] Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r3982 / (4 files in 4 dirs): [09:56] Ubuntu Documentation: * fixing invalidity in administrative.xml - string freeze [09:56] Ubuntu Documentation: exception, sorry but it's unavoidable [09:56] Ubuntu Documentation: * removing pot template for switching to windows - this is not to be [09:56] Ubuntu Documentation: translated [09:56] mpt: no [09:56] mdke, so are there any administrative problems with breaking string freeze in that case? [09:57] mpt: no, it's bad enough that if we do it quickly it should be no problem [09:57] what are you thinking? [09:57] altering it to remove the references [09:58] I was thinking that the "preparing" and "migrating" chapters are kinda interdependent [09:58] not sure that one can sit ok without the other === mpt updates to read the chapter in question [10:00] maybe we should include the preparing chapter, after all people who've installed a dual boot system can go back to windows and do that stuff [10:00] oh, "and have followed the instructions in the chapter" [10:00] ___ chapter [10:00] hrmmm [10:01] I see [10:01] mdke, I concur [10:01] Including the chapter would be better [10:02] ok, we'll do that [10:04] i'll raise it on the ML [10:04] thanks mpt [10:05] --> work === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-71.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === philbull [n=phil@oak029b.halls.manchester.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:22] Hi guys [12:23] Could someone take a look at bug 92227 for me please? [12:23] Malone bug 92227 in ubuntu-doc "Wrong url for Scribus in ubuntu-docs/office for Feisty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92227 === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === philbull [n=phil@oak029b.halls.manchester.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === CIA-5 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC8FFD28.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:13] Ubuntu Documentation: philbull feisty * r3983 /ubuntu/office/C/office.xml: Correct url for scribus (closes bug #92227) [02:13] Malone bug 92227 in ubuntu-doc "Wrong url for Scribus in ubuntu-docs/office for Feisty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92227 [02:16] Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r3984 ubuntu/office/C/office.xml: Fix url for Scribus === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-162.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bodhi_zazen [n=bodhizaz@stpete.helmednet.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:01] mdke: I was wondering what the manual uploads/fixes we had to do for docs were? Also how do I go about getting the firefox-startpage (kindex.html) translated for Kubuntu? === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jikanter [n=jordan@ppp-69-216-245-91.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === xipietotec [n=jackfros@dccd.cc.ca.us] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jikanter [n=jordan@ppp-69-216-245-91.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:04] nixternal: yeah, im here, its pretty minor, its just that i dont think it's only Kubuntu who has it. i think all the other distro has it and accdg. to the copyright, it was last updated 2002 and we just need to add a feature [05:04] well, will be documenting this and i'll pm you before i send my draft. [05:05] or do i file this as bug? [05:18] what doc are we talking about? [05:18] nixternal, the kooka doc [05:19] have you checked websvn.kde.org to see if the kooka doc is the same there as it is in Kubuntu? [05:19] actually, Knightlust this would 99.9% of the time be a KDE issue [05:20] that's what i thought, that's why i asked in #kde-docs. well, im checking on the process [05:20] and thanks for your help nixternal [05:22] Knightlust: no problem. just to note, this issue hasn't been reported in bugs.kde.org so you would be fine adding that as a bug, and then note in it that you are working on it [05:54] mdke: got a sec? === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:31] nixternal: available? [06:32] my contentless pings seem to be usless against their /ignore LaserJock :-) [06:38] LaserJock: in a few. I am leaving class right now === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:58] LaserJock: what's up? [07:02] nixternal: well, I was digging around to figure out what to do with About Edubuntu [07:02] the newest one I created? [07:02] About Ubuntu is done via a .desktop file shipped with gnome-panel-data [07:03] so it appears in the System menu [07:03] create an aboutedubuntu.desktop [07:03] I think we could ship an About Edubuntu in edubuntu-docs [07:03] and I think it should add to the menu [07:03] then the only think we'll add to the yelp frontpage is the Handbook [07:04] I'm waiting for my feisty machine at work to dist-upgrade so I can test it out [07:04] cool [07:05] where at in the repos is the about ubuntu .desktop? [07:07] gnome-panel-data === Burgundavia [n=corey@24.68.237.193] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:27] mdke: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/820 <- needs editing and posting ASAP - HUGE STORY! [07:27] nixternal: oh? [07:28] Ubuntu is now in a system that helps with the treatment of HIV+ [07:28] w/o a doubt the most "Ubuntu" type story I have seen to date. Definitely doing good! [07:29] I can't send email to the list either from school as they jammed all of the ports [07:29] I could dig up some good chemistry ones ;-) [07:29] heh [07:29] not sure if our HIV researchers are using Ubuntu here [07:29] but helping treat such a horrible disease. that is pretty big [07:29] but the big nanomaterials group does quite a bit [07:29] heh [07:29] I have no clue wth nanomaterials is, beside small materials ;p [07:30] sounds like my wallet [07:30] the future, that's what they are ;-) [07:30] OK, that is all you had to say, I know what they are working on then [07:30] nanotechnology [07:30] my dad is getting involved with that in the broadcast engineering field right now [07:31] it's just a buzz word to get funding :-) [07:31] hardly any of the stuff is really "nano" [07:33] I want to see that OLED screen where they have fit like a 1024x768 resolution in a 1" square [07:39] nixternal: I've seen a ship where they put 10,000 miniture diving boards in less than 1" sq [07:39] heh [07:40] wth [07:40] all hooked up to individual electrical leads [07:41] science is fun! ;-) === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:43] midterm time, back in a bit === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-219.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:03] nixternal, do you know where the kubuntu feisty desktop is located? is it still under development? [08:03] Knightlust: how do you mean? [08:04] LaserJock, is it online? like the desktop guide found in help.ubuntu.com [08:04] sure [08:05] the edgy is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html ... so how about the one for feisty? [08:05] all the in-progress docs are hosed on doc.ubuntu.com [08:05] we only put them on help.ubuntu.com once they have been released === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:05] ohh, thanks for answering my question LaserJock. appreciate it [08:06] Knightlust: no problem === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:01] nixternal: looking now, presumably too late? [09:02] hmm, ubuntu-docs is solely licensed under cc-by-sa now? === dsas is wondering why vrms doesn't complain about it. [09:02] mdke: do you know off hand how the About Ubuntu item gets there? [09:02] dsas: most of it [09:02] dsas: well, certain parts are GPL, scripts and stuff [09:03] LaserJock: it's in gnome-panel I guess [09:03] LaserJock: the one in the menus comes from gnome-panel-data [09:03] if it only looks for GPL in the copyright it will find GPL [09:03] I know *where* it comes from [09:03] I'm trying to figure out how it gets in the menu [09:03] nixternal: for translations - no need to do any uploads as long as the pot templates are in the package in the archive, I've asked carlos to handle everything else [09:03] I'm thinking it's got to be hard coded somewhere [09:03] nixternal: as for firefox, no idea - we do it manually [09:04] LaserJock: ask seb I guess [09:04] mdke: that's not my favorite answer, but oh well [09:05] it's the only one I guess [09:05] mdke: is relation seriesid="ca0556e4-b4db-11db-866f-a1b2f0a0b745" what you are looking for the yelp frontpage? [09:05] LaserJock: that sort of thing yeah [09:06] mdke: what more do you need? we decided the Edubuntu Handbook would be all we'll put in [09:06] so that's the seriesid in the .omf [09:06] LaserJock: that's enough then [09:07] can you mail it too, I'm a bit frantic atm [09:07] mdke: np, do you need a description too or just name and series id? [09:07] that's fine [09:07] k, it'll be too you shortly [09:08] ty [09:08] LaserJock: it's hardcoded in gnome-panel indeed [09:08] :( [09:08] it gets copied in the debian/gnome-panel-data.install file [09:09] well, yeah [09:09] that's where it is installed [09:09] I need to figure out how it gets in the menu [09:09] I copied the about-ubuntu.desktop to about-edubuntu.desktop and changed the names [09:09] left the Categories the same, etc. [09:09] but it doesn't seem to show up [09:10] ah, sorry. I completely misunderstood. [09:10] np [09:13] LaserJock: ok, i actually found it this time. it's hardcoded in debian/patches/01_layout.patch [09:13] in gnome-panel? [09:13] + if (g_file_test (DATADIR"/omf/about-ubuntu/about-ubuntu-C.omf", [09:13] + G_FILE_TEST_IS_REGULAR)) [09:13] + panel_menu_items_append_from_desktop (menu, "ubuntu-about.desktop", NULL); [09:13] LaserJock: yeah [09:14] freaking heck [09:14] I guess you can put a edubuntu one in there looking at that patch... [09:14] it makes it so hard on any derivative to hard code everything [09:14] not that I know much about C and less about gnome :) [09:14] dsas: no, thanks a ton [09:14] I'm pretty sure I grepped that but I guess not [09:15] no problem. it gave me an excuse to procastinate. [09:17] ;-) [09:17] glad I could help === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:20] nixternal: pingy pingy [10:21] LaserJock: pongy pongy :) [10:23] nixternal: you feel like doing some edubuntu-docs packaging? [10:23] :-) [10:23] I can do that [10:23] give me a few minutes if possible [10:24] well, I just wondered if you wanted to do it [10:24] I opened a bug against gnome-panel to get us a menu item [10:24] ahh, OK [10:24] sure, I can do it here in a bit [10:24] but we need to install a .desktop :-) [10:24] easy === Jisao [n=etchian@1meg-mtl-adsl219.securenet.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:32] LaserJock: what is the handbook omf file called? I can't find it [10:35] ah, I see it now [10:35] LaserJock: the other thing I need to know is where it should go in the list [10:37] well, I'm not sure [10:37] I'd say 1st or right above Advanced Topics [10:37] it might be good to have all the Ubuntu content first [10:37] lemme know :) [10:37] before they launch into the Handbook [10:37] ah, the new website is out [10:37] nixternal: what do you think? [10:37] it is? finally [10:37] I think I am hungry ;p === Admiral_Chicago [n=Admiral_@adsl-69-209-77-18.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:38] LaserJock: I would say dead last with the handbook since it is a work in progress. However...I would like people to read it and file bugs against it as well [10:38] so maybe dead last will either keep it out of their view [10:38] nixternal: so how about right before Advanced Topics [10:39] sounds good to me [10:39] Advanced Topics is kinda like a "everything else" thing [10:39] mdke: right above Advanced Topics it is :-) [10:39] ok [10:40] that was easy :) [10:40] executive decisions [10:40] much easier than KDE4 in Universe debate :-) [10:45] mdke: is the new website drupal? [10:46] yes [10:46] what was it before? [10:46] moin? === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:46] yeah [10:50] New bug: #92658 in ubuntu-docs (main) "debian/copyright information is incorrect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92658 [10:50] ? [10:52] dsas: pingy pingy === mdke hands that bug to LaserJock [10:54] well, it's wrong [10:54] as far as I can tell [10:54] I need to figure out what version he's looking at [10:55] I think everything is consistent and correct unless I overlooked some minor detail :/ === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-133-166.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:15] Laser_away: pong! [11:15] version 7.03.2 in the debian/copyright file [11:16] Laser_away: actually. it's me being wrong (again!) [11:17] i was looking at an old svn checkout, rather than the version I apt-get sourced. === dsas blames the lack of chinese food and gets ordering. === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #ubuntu-doc