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poningruhey guys beta is coming out in 22nd we have to do a release notes thing for it12:17
beunoponingru: gotcha, I'll setup the wiki and send a the URL to the ML12:22
poningruooh thanks12:53
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BHSPitMonkeyI live my life open-source-release-date to open-source-release-date01:56
BHSPitMonkeytoday was one, but it's been delayed... so I guess feisty beta's the next one on the radar01:56
adamant1988lol01:59
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bimberi!denyhosts05:20
bimberierk, wrong window, sry05:20
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jendajuliux: ping12:40
jendahey, mrevell! welcome back :)12:41
mrevelljenda: yo :)12:42
juliuxjenda, pong12:47
jendajuliux: livingdaylight complained that you didn't send him his shirt :)12:48
jendahis name is 'conrad'12:49
jendaI promised to prod you.12:49
juliuxjenda, i e-mailed him12:53
juliuxjenda, i think dhl lost is shirt12:53
jendaouch12:53
juliuxi send him his shirt last week12:53
jendaok12:54
jendadon't shoot the messenger ;)12:54
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adamant1988Anyone conscious? mrevell ?04:22
mrevelladamant1988: I'm alive :)04:22
adamant1988mrevell: Wanted to discuss something with you (since I know you're an uppity up in the team) 04:23
adamant1988Could we put a "community bulletin board" type program into effect?  Kind of like a "Karma-bounty" system to get work done for the marketing team, the art team, and what have you? 04:24
mrevelladamant1988: I'm not sure what an uppity up is, but I don't think I am one :) Hmm, the thing you describe sounds like Launchpad's Blueprint Tracker.04:25
mrevelladamant1988: Perhaps I'm missing something.04:25
adamant1988Well, except half of the community never visits launchpad.  My logic is that we could offer some kind of points system with a leadership board, but we could put things up  on this to get them done quicker by people who just want to help with individual bits.04:26
adamant1988For instance if I need an article written for say a newsletter, but no one seems interested in writing it we could put it up there and offer so many "points" to get it done.  Think of it at out-sourcing some stuff to the main community04:27
adamant1988I think in particular the art team would benefit from something like this too. 04:28
mrevelladamant1988: I'd say that creating a new resource, because people don't use an existing resource, isn't the answer. However, the points system you describe sounds interesting.04:29
adamant1988Well, I'm not talking about creating a whole new one.. just perhaps adding onto the launchpad and modifying it to allow this kind of activity04:30
mrevelladamant1988: I do think, though, that Blueprint will provide you with what you need. If people don't go there, well, that's a job of telling people about it, not for creating something new.04:30
mrevellRight04:30
adamant1988The only thing is.. no one goes to the launchpad, so I'm hoping it can be linked on the main site or something?04:30
mrevellYeah, sounds like a nice idea. I'd recommend writing a spec for it, again using the blueprint tracker :)04:30
adamant1988Ideally it would create an almost competitive environment for helping out Ubuntu04:31
mrevellWell, I don't have any sway over the main site04:31
mrevellIt's a cool idea04:31
adamant1988Thanks, I'll try to write out a spec for it.04:31
mrevellcool :)04:31
adamant1988Another thing I wanted to bring up04:31
mrevellPing me when you've got something and I'll help you tweak it04:31
adamant1988What would be the best way to get some surveys out there to Ubunturoos?04:31
adamant1988In particular I just think we should be collecting more information about and from the community, I'd manage the whole thing myself if I have to.  04:32
mrevelladamant1988: Hey, I agree that getting more information is a great thing. Have you spoken to Melissa about it? She's done some work on that before.04:34
adamant1988mrevell: I haven't, I was kind of absent for a while. 04:35
adamant1988haha.04:35
adamant1988do you have an email I can use to get in touch with her? 04:35
mrevelladamant1988: Ah, well, ping elkbuntu, she's your lady04:35
mrevellerm04:35
mrevelljust a sec04:35
adamant1988oh man.. how do I do these specs again lol04:39
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adamant1988elkbuntu: hello05:19
adamant1988mrevell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/bulletinboard05:36
adamant1988seem alright to you?05:36
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mrevelladamant1988: Busy at the moment, but will look later. Thanks :)05:38
adamant1988sure thing05:40
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adamant1988oh my god07:56
adamant1988*sigh*07:56
poningruoh blargh?07:57
adamant1988I keep trying to load the new ubuntu.com07:58
adamant1988but I can't seem to get it to load.07:58
poningruthe new ubuntu.com?07:59
poningruuh thats not supposed to be out till 19th07:59
adamant1988it's up now, supposedly.07:59
poningruwth nm08:00
poningruwhat do you mean you cant get it to load?08:02
adamant1988I still see the old site08:02
adamant1988I've cleared my cache and everything, it's STILL the old site.08:02
poningruadamant1988: in a terminal go ping ubuntu.com08:02
poningruwhat server does it give you?08:02
poningruand instead of ubuntu.com go to signey.ubuntu.com08:03
adamant1988that's what I'm getting08:03
poningruin the browser I mean08:03
adamant198864 bytes from signey.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.166): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=97.8 ms08:03
adamant198864 bytes from signey.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.166): icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=97.8 ms08:03
adamant198864 bytes from signey.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.166): icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=90.4 ms08:03
adamant198864 bytes from signey.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.166): icmp_seq=4 ttl=51 time=98.9 ms08:03
poningruin the browser instead of going to ubuntu.com go to signey.ubuntu.com08:03
poningrudont paste damn it08:03
poningruerr sorry08:03
adamant1988poningru: that's a 404 error on that site.08:04
poningruhmm you're right08:05
=== beuno I can see the new website perfectly
adamant1988I'm getting very annoyed :(08:06
beunowant a screenshot  :D08:06
adamant1988I've seen it.08:07
adamant1988I just want to be able to navigate it to see if there is any real improvement. 08:07
adamant1988I can't understand why the old webpage is still loading08:08
beunomartin@martin-laptop:~$ ping signey.ubuntu.com08:08
beunoPING signey.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.166) 56(84) bytes of data.08:08
beuno64 bytes from signey.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.166): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=309 ms08:08
beuno64 bytes from signey.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.166): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=362 ms08:08
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beunohey jenda08:54
jendaoi09:21
jendabeuno: the forums people seem not to like the fact that it's them who have to do the work, not LP...09:22
jenda...but they're always like that :/09:22
beunoah, I think launchpad-independence is a good thing09:23
jendahmm09:23
beunoI mean, they *are* going to have to do some sort of work on this side09:23
jendaI guess09:23
jendaof course09:23
beuno*this = their09:23
beunoI can easily do the script that will parse the information, and I might even be able to code the forum integration09:24
beunobut ultimately it's up to them09:24
beunoand I really don't want to invest too much time if neither launchpad folks and forum folks are interested09:25
beunoI'm having a hard time getting through to launchpad devs, although I've gotten some very good "off the record" comments09:26
poningruwhat are we talking about?09:27
jendabeuno: alrighty09:27
beunohey poningru, I'm trying to get some sort of integration done between forums and launchpad09:27
jendaponingru: forum-LP integration09:27
poningruoh09:28
beunojenda: sorry to put you in the middle of this, but you're a easy person to talk to  :D09:28
jendabeuno: hehe :)09:28
jendabeuno: no problem09:28
jendaI mean...09:28
jendaget lost ;)09:28
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jenda09:29
beunohahaha09:29
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jendahehe09:30
tsmithebeuno, that forum-lp integration thing would be very useful for everyone (and i'm particularly keen to see it working well for the audio team); so keep pushing09:30
tsmitheand well done :)09:30
beunodamn you tsmithe, I was so close to letting it go...    ;)09:31
beunoand thank you!09:31
tsmithedon't do that09:31
tsmithe!09:31
tsmitheand, no problem :P09:31
beunojenda: who should I be bugging about this on the forums side?09:32
jendaryan troy :)09:35
jendaI'll brb09:35
Burgworkbeuno: lp is very much marks project09:35
adamant1988hello all09:36
beunoBurgwork: well, he might be harder to "get to", but I've got some very good feedback from launchpad devs, and actually found a way around to implement this on the forums without them doing anything09:37
tsmitheusing email?09:37
beunoI think once it's on the forums, it'll be easier to convince them to get on board09:37
beunotsmithe: no, a magic little feature which I wasn't aware of: text mode09:37
tsmithetext mode?09:37
beunotsmithe: https://launchpad.net/bugs/90028/+text)09:38
beunosee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=384627 and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-users/2007-March/001184.html09:38
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tsmithewhy didn't i hear of this? :P09:39
beunodunno, I've been pretty annoying about this!09:39
tsmithe"Not allowed here09:39
tsmitheSorry, you don't have permission to access this page.09:39
tsmitheYou are logged in as Toby Smithe"09:39
adamant1988wow09:40
adamant1988the ubuntu home page is BACK to normal09:40
beunotsmithe: sorry, https://launchpad.net/bugs/8242/+text09:40
tsmithewhy couldn't i see the other one?09:40
beunotsmithe: because it's a bug I reported which was marked private09:40
tsmitheah09:40
beunoI should changed that in the forum now that I think about it, heh09:41
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adamant1988mrevell: Hello again :)10:07
mrevelladamant1988: hey :)10:08
adamant1988had a chance to look at the spec?10:08
adamant1988https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/bulletinboard << mrevell 10:17
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mrevelladamant1988: Sorry dude. I'll put it on my list for tomorrow.10:41
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