[12:26] <Seveas> which loco?
[12:28] <Tm_T> uh oh
[12:28] <Seveas> Tm_T, ?
[12:29] <Tm_T> just wondering how long you need to milk out the info ;)
[12:38] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-effects, johanbr said: !whitescreen is Please start beryl with "beryl --use-copy" or choose the appropriate item on the beryl-manager menus. If you can't load beryl-manager without it whitescreening then use "beryl-manager --no-force-window-manager". For ATI, try "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa beryl --replace --use-copy --indirect-rendering".
[12:39] <Seveas> that is such a bad factoid...
[12:39] <Seveas> can't get much messier
[12:43] <PriceChild> Seveas, We can remove it in..... I'd say about 45 minutes
[12:44] <PriceChild> (hopefully)
[02:25] <PriceChild> that 45 minutes is taking a lot longer :(
[04:44] <nalioth> !staff
[04:44] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob or SportChick! I could use a bit of your time :)
[04:44] <nalioth> how do you make channel specific factoids?
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: !factoid-#channel is foo
[04:45] <nalioth> !staff-#tapthru is <reply> To contact freenode staff, type /stats p <enter> in your client and /msg one of the listed people.  You may also join #help.
[04:45] <ubotu> I'll remember that, nalioth
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> what's tapthru?
[04:48] <nalioth> !staff-#tapthru is <reply> To contact freenode staff, type /stats p <enter> in your client and /msg one of the listed people.
[04:48] <ubotu> But staff-#tapthru already means something else!
[04:49] <nalioth> can someone erase that whole entry? i obviously don't need to be adding factoids in a fancy manner
[04:49] <SportChick> tonyyarusso: try joining #help
[04:51] <mneptok> ubotu forget staff-#tapthru
[04:51] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, mneptok said: ubotu forget staff-#tapthru
[04:51] <mneptok> oh FFS
[04:52] <mneptok> !login
[04:52] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[04:52] <nalioth> ubotu forget staff-#tapthru
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about staff-#tapthru yet, nalioth
[04:52] <nalioth> but yet you won't take a new factoid of that name, you bucket of bolts
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: %login
[09:27] <Mez|OnAir> hey GazzaK
[09:27] <GazzaK> hey Mez|OnAir
[09:27] <GazzaK> on air, woo
[09:27] <GazzaK> haha
[09:27] <GazzaK> nice song
[09:28] <GazzaK> I played this song this morning, full volume roof down in the morning dew :-)  got so many funny looks
[09:29] <Mez|OnAir> lol
[09:30] <GazzaK> your early morning (for me) radio shows really cheer me up at work btw Mez|OnAir
[09:30] <Mez|OnAir> :D
[09:30] <Mez|OnAir> yeah, early morning for me too GazzaK
[09:35] <GazzaK> poking ya puppies, ya :p
[09:39] <GazzaK> have you got "frankly mr shankly" ?
[09:39] <GazzaK> http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/thequeen/franklym.htm
[09:39] <GazzaK> it's a damn good tune
[09:40] <GazzaK> mneptok, can you erm "let me test it" ?
[09:40] <mneptok> meh. "The Headmaster Ritual" is better. :)
[09:41] <mneptok> GazzaK: sorry, don't feel like making the RIAA angry from my office IP
[09:41] <GazzaK> arghhh
[09:41] <GazzaK> :p
[09:42] <GazzaK> Actually I do have the cd at home, in a box (not finished unpacking yet)
[11:18] <jenda> PAARTYY!
[11:19] <mneptok> the Party sees. the Party knows.
[11:27] <jenda> uh oh
[11:42] <GazzaK> Mez, she is so quiet (radio girl) but nice music still
[11:42] <Mez> yeah
[12:51] <GazzaK> awww Seveas emacs is scaring me :'(
[12:51] <Seveas> you're scaring me :0
[12:51] <Seveas> :p
[12:51] <GazzaK> mwhaaaa
[12:52] <GazzaK> I think ban forwards should be outlawed :-)
[12:54] <jenda> /cs bf GazzaK #gaygeeks
[12:54] <GazzaK> jenda, erm, I'm in there anyways :-)
[12:54] <jenda> I know ;)
[12:55] <jenda> whee, /me will be manning an Ubuntu booth...
[12:55] <jenda> LinuxExpo 2007
[12:55] <Seveas> Hobbsee, !
[12:56] <Hobbsee> hey Seveas!
[12:56] <jenda> oi, Hobbsee
[12:57] <Hobbsee> hey jenda!
[01:11] <jenda> OUT!
[01:11] <jenda> eek
[01:11] <jenda> argh
[01:11] <jenda> ugh
[01:25] <mneptok> it's a disco inferno!
[01:26] <jenda> thanks for your protective maternal instincts, Hobbsee ;)
[01:26] <Hobbsee> jenda: heh
[01:27] <jenda> 
[01:30] <Seveas> we should get a restraining order for mneptok
[01:30] <Hobbsee> that'd be nice
[01:30] <Hobbsee> against whom, though?
[01:32] <mneptok> Planit Erf
[01:40] <mneptok> i'm a star maaaaan waiting in the sky. i'd like to get to know you but the channel's set +i ....
[01:42] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: heh!
[01:43] <mneptok> 08:36 -!- mneptok changed the topic of #********* to: official support team channel - dapper and edgy questions only, please - proudly part of the AFSCME trade union - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3mw49mk_x0
[02:06] <Seveas> elkbuntu, go play with your barbie dolls :p
[02:07] <Seveas> excellent blog post!
[02:07] <elkbuntu> :
[02:07] <Seveas> haha
[02:08] <mc44> Seveas: stop virtual stalking elkbuntu
[02:08] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: ah, interesting, as to why you joined ubuntu-women
[02:08] <Seveas> mc44, are you blonde?
[02:08] <mc44> Seveas: you can be my girlfriend
[02:08] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, yah
[02:09] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, i dont need the support of other women, but some are like that *shrug*
[02:09] <elkbuntu> Seveas, you can stalk me any day ;)
[02:09] <jenda> aww, how sweet ;)
[02:10] <mc44> elkbuntu: but dont let him play with your dolls. He has this fetish...
[02:10] <pleia2> elkbuntu: and it is a good reason to join ubuntu-women, I know that female role models (via linuxchix) were a HUGE part of me not running away from the whole linux/foss thing scared ;)
[02:10] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, mind you, i dont get why some girls need to be accompanied by half the women in a pub each time they need to use the toilet
[02:10] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: hah!
[02:10] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: yes
[02:10] <Seveas> elkbuntu, rofl
[02:11] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: men hiding in the toilets.  duh.
[02:11] <mneptok> safety in numbers? (another reason FLOSS is tough for women)
[02:11] <Hobbsee> mneptok: yes.
[02:11] <pleia2> mneptok: something like that, feeling like a "mythical creature" is no fun
[02:11] <pleia2> well, it's a little fun sometimes ;)
[02:11] <pleia2> but it gets lonely
[02:11] <Hobbsee> mneptok: havent you even ahd sleezy people try to crack onto you?
[02:11] <mneptok> pleia2: hush, you. i'm a fairy unicorn princess.
[02:12] <pleia2> I'm a princess!
[02:12] <elkbuntu> mneptok, basically. 1 or 2 friends fine.. but i've seen a troup of 10 girls accompany one girl to the loo
[02:12] <Hobbsee> haha, now that' sjust ridiculous
[02:12] <Myrtti> I'm a fly.
[02:12] <mneptok> frat stunt!
[02:12] <mneptok> how many can we fit in the stall?!
[02:12] <pleia2> women going to the restroom together is odd..
[02:13] <pleia2> hehe
[02:13] <mc44> men going to the restroom together is more odd
[02:13] <elkbuntu> mneptok, recalling jr highschool again?
[02:13] <mneptok> elkbuntu: no. mostly my childhood. but let's talk about unicorns.
[02:13] <elkbuntu> mc44, not when they're openly gay
[02:14] <elkbuntu> mc44, i always feel sorry for the other guys in a bathroom when gay guys go in together
[02:14] <elkbuntu> !o4o | elkbuntu
[02:14] <mc44> elkbuntu: Its worse when GazzaK follows me into the bathroom
[02:15] <mneptok> i'm a closet heterosexual.
[02:15] <mc44> with a stunning dress sense
[02:15] <mc44> @lart 37 mneptok
[02:38] <elkbuntu> hey Seveas... were you part of us trying to figure out the other day if my blog was the first female blog on planet.u.c?
[02:38] <Seveas> no
[02:38] <Seveas> but I should be able to check that
[02:38] <elkbuntu> i think i've asked you before though... if you knew of any others before me
[02:40] <jenda> nick based voice? O_O
[02:41] <mc44> jenda: so people dont confuse you ops with us voyeurs
[02:41] <jenda> aaah
[02:41] <elkbuntu> Seveas, we're pretty sure JaneW's wasnt planeted, but we couldnt be sure there wasnt anyone prior
[02:42] <Seveas> elkbuntu, you were added on 2006-09-22
[02:42] <Seveas> janew wasn't planeter
[02:42] <Seveas> hobbsee was added in january
[02:42] <elkbuntu> Seveas, Amy Jiang was like... a month or less later than i, wasnt she?
[02:42] <Seveas> amy on 2006-10-18
[02:43] <elkbuntu> celeste only within the past week?
[02:43] <Seveas> mirjam in january 2007 as well
[02:43] <Seveas> I don't see celeste
[02:43] <Seveas> nickname?
[02:43] <elkbuntu> seele
[02:43] <elkbuntu> celeste lyn paul
[02:44] <Seveas> yeah, added yesterday
[02:44] <Seveas> so you are indeed the first
[02:44] <elkbuntu> aye.. but what about during the year before... seriously nobody?
[02:44] <Seveas> not that I know of
[02:45] <elkbuntu> :)
[02:45] <pleia2> speaking of the planet, anyone know how would we go about getting the ubuntu-women planet linked in the "solar system"?
[02:45] <mneptok> dude you tohlly busted planet's cherry.
[02:45] <mneptok> OMG I SAID THAT TO A *GIRL*!
[02:45] <mc44> elkbuntu: ooh next you can be the first woman in core-dev :p
[02:45] <elkbuntu> mneptok, i was trying to avoid it like that
[02:46] <elkbuntu> s/it/saying it/
[02:46] <elkbuntu> mc44, heck no
[02:46] <elkbuntu> mc44, that's hobbsee's fight, not mine
[02:46] <mneptok> elkbuntu: but with the testosterone level, you just .... can't ... not ...
[02:46] <Hobbsee> mc44: heh.  i got told no last time
[02:46] <elkbuntu> mneptok, that would involve doing real work :-/
[02:46] <mc44> Hobbsee: SEXISM!
[02:47] <mneptok> point.
[02:47] <Hobbsee> mc44: indeed. YOU MEAN I CANT JUST SWEET TALK MY WAY THRU EVERYTHING???
[02:47] <mc44> Hobbsee: I would have thought you could have swayed them with your sexiness, no? :p
[02:47] <elkbuntu> ZOMG TAT'S SO NT RITE
[02:47] <Seveas> elkbuntu, just checked, you were indeed the first
[02:48] <elkbuntu> w00t
[02:49] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:50] <elkbuntu> hehe
[02:50] <Seveas> @lart elkbuntu
[02:50] <elkbuntu> o.O
[02:50] <elkbuntu> SEXUAL HARASSMENT!
[02:51] <mc44> sexual harrasment of a duck? I thought that was mneptok's speciality
[02:51] <Seveas> hahahaha
[02:52] <elkbuntu> rofl
[02:53] <Seveas> Hobbsee, you're not in core-dev yet?
[02:53] <Hobbsee> Seveas: nope
[02:53] <Seveas> Hobbsee, shame
[02:53] <Hobbsee> lol
[02:53] <Seveas> we need sexy core-devs :p
[02:53] <mneptok> mc44: ducks are Jono
[02:53] <pleia2> lol
[02:53] <mc44> mneptok: oh right, you were the rabbits
[03:05] <elkbuntu> heh.. this hostmask is enough to scare people --> * EriK2 (i=Agent69@wash-dc.fbi.chatmonitor.org) has joined #ubuntu
[03:15] <GazzaK> mc44, what, I never!!!
[03:20] <elkbuntu_> oh how i hate not being able to change nick because you're in a moderated channel
[03:21] <effie_jayx> heh
[03:22] <mneptok> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mneptok/ubuntu-slick.png
[03:22] <PriceChild> rofl
[03:22] <mneptok> fixed.
[03:23] <PriceChild> How long have you been working on that mneptok ? :)
[03:24] <mneptok> isn't it clear? about 5 minutes.
[03:24] <GazzaK> bet it was really all morning
[03:25] <effie_jayx> I liked that splash
[03:25] <effie_jayx> now you ruined it
[03:25] <mneptok> mission accomplished
[03:25] <mc44> so now its phallic and doing something untoward to teletubbies
[03:25] <mneptok> now all you'll see are Teletubbies
[03:26] <effie_jayx> I will not be able to see it with objective eyes anumore... the teletubies will be always burned in my retina....
[03:26] <effie_jayx> arghh
[03:26] <mc44> "Show me where mneptok touch you, LaLa"
[03:27] <elkbuntu> mneptok touched me in my bathing suit area!
[03:27] <effie_jayx> :O
[03:30] <elkbuntu> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20050808
[03:30] <PriceChild> /me <3 ctrlaltdel
[03:30] <elkbuntu> cad rocks, yeah
[03:30] <PriceChild> lol ewww
[03:30] <PriceChild> aww we've gotta wait longer for more of Lucas... "It went pretty well" pfft
[03:33] <effie_jayx> heh
[03:33] <effie_jayx> jejej
[03:46] <ubotu> In ubotu, ardchoille said: alsamixer is alsamixer - soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver, with ncurses interface.
[03:56] <Seveas> useles...
[03:57] <PriceChild> uuu Seveas I got rid of that yucky whitescreen-#ubuntu-effects this morning ;)
[03:58] <Seveas> did that even make it into the database?!?
[03:58] <PriceChild> Not that version
[03:58] <PriceChild> there was a smaller one
[03:58] <SportChick> \o/
[03:58] <SportChick> hi Seveas :)
[03:58] <Seveas> hi
[03:58] <SportChick> we're installing ubuntu :)
[04:01] <Seveas> \o/
[04:03] <SportChick> heh
[04:15] <effie_jayx> SportChick,  :D
[05:55] <Seveas> elkbuntu, it's 4am in .au - get some sleep :p
[06:24] <Seveas> would ubunanon be anon32....
[06:25] <nalioth> whoa
[06:25] <nalioth> how long has anon32 been around?
[06:25] <Seveas> no idea
[06:25] <Seveas> but ubunanon earned himself a couple of bans already
[06:25] <Seveas> see #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:37] <Seveas> PriceChild, Seveass == UbunAnon == Uanon
[06:37] <Seveas> a troll
[06:37] <PriceChild> Seveas, yeah i remember seeing that guy banned
[06:37] <Seveas> I'm now banning his minions as well
[06:37] <PriceChild> I didn't wanna do anything against the guys asking thoguh
[06:38] <PriceChild> but I will now that i've seen you set the precedent :)
[06:56] <ubotu> In ubotu, jhutchins said: no sudo is <reply> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. see !kdesu for GUI Applications.
[06:56] <Seveas> nonono
[06:56] <Seveas> that's not good....
[06:57] <ubotu> In ubotu, jhutchins said: no sudo is <reply> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. See !kdesu for GUI Applications.
[07:02] <PriceChild> Seveas, wooo I've got the guy pming me :P
[07:03] <Seveas> PriceChild, I beat you to that as well
[07:03] <PriceChild> haha :)
[07:03] <PriceChild> Now calm down Seveas... this isn't a competition :P
[07:10] <PriceChild> Seveas, didn't the bantracker use to put kickbans together and only make one entry? Or am I imagining it :)
[07:10] <Seveas> you are imagining it
[07:10] <PriceChild> Hehe ok :)
[07:12] <PriceChild> I've now got a i=cheester@unaffiliated/cheester complaining to me about "me" setting the ban on *.tpnet.pl - not a ban that I or you have set...
[07:15] <Seveas> I set a ban on *.something.tpnet.pl
[07:15] <PriceChild> I know
[07:15] <PriceChild> that guy isn't even in channel
[07:15] <PriceChild> he's just trolling
[07:15] <PriceChild> Seveas, there is a guy in #ubuntu now complaining about the ban however...
[07:15] <Husio> hello
[07:16] <Husio> could someone remove ban from neostrada host?
[07:16] <Husio> half of polish ubuntu users (or even more) use those host
[07:16] <Seveas> Husio, no
[07:17] <Husio> why?
[07:17] <Seveas> Husio, and by sending more minions to troll and inquire about bans, you'll only make sure the ban stays for longer
[07:17] <Seveas> goodbye
[07:17] <Husio> omg...
[07:17] <Husio> like kids
[07:18] <PriceChild> Husio, you weren't even in the channel for the ban :) Please go away :)
[07:18] <Husio> actually I'm using neostrada
[07:18] <Husio> so I can't join #ubuntu
[07:19] <Husio> use ignore instead of ban
[07:19] <jenda> He might have a point... the entire ISP is banned...
[07:19] <Husio> or ban nick
[07:21] <nalioth> is a subset of the whole ISP bannable, or have they been connecting from all nodes?
[07:21] <PriceChild> Its on a single node isn't it that we've banned?
[07:22] <PriceChild> oh wait no
[07:22] <PriceChild> silly me :)
[07:23] <czester> Ok...
[07:23] <czester> Sorry for agressive behavoiur PriceChild
[07:23] <czester> But this ban is riddiculous
[07:24] <PriceChild> czester, you are complaining about a ban:
 *.tpnet.pl
[07:24] <PriceChild> which is not the ban that was set
[07:24] <PriceChild> Nor was I the one to set it.
[07:24] <czester> Yeah. Let me be exact
[07:24] <czester> http://wklej.org/id/e81bf91f42
[07:25] <czester> ban affects most popular isp in poland
[07:25] <czester> so someone changes connection and enters the channel and you ban him for trolling?
[07:28] <PriceChild> czester, You were not even in the channel when the ban was set.
[07:28] <czester> PriceChild: Because you banned me.
[07:28] <PriceChild> czester, bans don't kick.
[07:28] <nalioth> czester: you are not banned.
[07:28] <czester> 191852             freenode--- Cannot join to channel #ubuntu (You are banned)
[07:28] <PriceChild> nalioth, he is
[07:29] <nalioth> his cloak should let him bypass it
[07:29] <PriceChild> nalioth, I banned the cloak
[07:29] <nalioth> PriceChild: aha
[07:29] <PriceChild> nalioth, This is after he joined the channel and immediately complained about a ban he wasn't around for.
[07:30] <czester> It affects massive number of polish users
[07:30] <jacekowski> PriceChild: i just ask about one ban
[07:30] <czester> *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
[07:31] <czester> This is not one user.
[07:31] <Seveas> jacekowski, I ban a troll, you come in and ask about that ban. That troll can be seen from miles away
[07:31] <czester> Seveas: This is not one user's host
[07:31] <Seveas> jacekowski, and repeatedly avoiding bans doesn't do your case any good
[07:31] <czester> Seveas: This is whole ISP
[07:31] <czester> They all have dynamic IP
[07:31] <Seveas> czester, because troll jacekowski kept avoiding the ban
[07:31] <jacekowski> Seveas: because he troling on #gentoo why he cannot join #ubuntu
[07:31] <Seveas> czester, so tough luck
[07:32] <czester> Seveas: So what next are you going to ban? Spain?
[07:32] <Seveas> if the next trolls come from spain and have a dynamic ip and abuse that: yes
[07:32] <PriceChild> czester, do you really imagine we would place a _permanent_ ban on the entire isp for ever and ever?
[07:33] <czester> Seveas: Ridiculous.
[07:33] <Seveas> czester, if jacekowski stops trolling, th ban eventually will be removed
[07:33] <czester> You are trolling.
[07:33] <czester> Right now.
[07:33] <nalioth> czester: unfortunately, this is what happens.
[07:33] <jacekowski> Seveas: how you define trolling?
[07:33] <czester> ^_^
[07:33] <Seveas> jacekowski, for example: avoiding bans
[07:33] <nalioth> czester: problematic users who keep cycling their IPs end up getting a larger node of their ISP banned
[07:33] <czester> I was hoping ubuntu community isn't so rude like gentoo's
[07:34] <czester> Nevermind.
[07:34] <ikonia> why are you mad at ubuntu - be made at the guy trolling
[07:34] <Seveas> czester, unfortunately they are, that's why we have to ban
[07:34] <ikonia> s/made/mad
[07:34] <czester> yeah, yeah.
[07:34] <czester> Bye.
[07:35] <Seveas> gee, leaving at the same time
[07:35] <Seveas> what a coincidence
[07:35] <ikonia> almost as if they where the same person.......
[07:35] <PriceChild> I'm willing to bet it'd be pretty safe to remove the ban in about 2 minutes 8-)
[07:35] <ikonia> if its any interest czester was in ubuntu earlier making up problems
[07:36] <ikonia> I know that sounds backwards he'd ask a question, then when you answered said "I never asked that question"
[07:36] <ikonia> constantly
[07:36] <ikonia> about 5 hours ago
[07:37] <Seveas> ikonia, hmm...
[07:37] <ikonia> it wasn't a big deal as he seemed to get bored of it
[07:41] <PriceChild> Finally!!!!!!!
[07:43] <Seveas> about time
[07:43] <Seveas> delayed by 3 weeks
[07:43] <PriceChild> I've been so patient :)
[07:44] <Seveas> dogslow though
[07:45] <PriceChild> uses drupal....?
[07:45] <Seveas> yeah
[08:13] <Seveas> somerville32_, those bans have been removed for a while
[08:13] <Seveas> and not a sign of them
[08:13] <Seveas> how not surprising
[08:14] <PriceChild> Did someone tab complete the word "so"? :)
[08:16] <Seveas> no, I'm gonna patch xchat to require 2 tabs
[08:16] <Seveas> @lart me
[08:16] <Seveas> @lart me
[08:16] <Seveas> @lart me
[08:17] <Seveas> @lart me
[08:18] <GazzaK> @pity you
[08:19] <GazzaK> rusty paper hole puncher - lol
[10:00] <Seveas> nixternal, could you add that to the fridge (and while you're at it, please do the CC meeting as well)
[10:01] <nixternal> Seveas: already did the CC meeting while at school earlier
[10:01] <Seveas> you rock
[10:01] <nixternal> will add this meeting right now
[10:01] <Seveas> you rock more :)
[10:01] <nixternal> why thank you ;p
[10:02] <jenda> hehe
[10:02] <jenda> hey, rockers - still no idea when the CC election will take place?
[10:02] <Seveas> no
[10:02] <Seveas> I'll be asking sabdfl that at the CC meeting?
[10:02] <Seveas> s/?/!/
[10:03] <jenda> ok
[10:03] <jenda> good :)
[10:03] <nixternal> btw, if any extra help is needed in #kubuntu-offtopics feel free to sign me up. I am low on the op side having only #kubuntu and #ubuntu-marketing (fyi)
[10:03] <nixternal> Seveas: is there an agenda to the meeting?
[10:03] <Seveas> nixternal, whatever needs to be discussed about the council and the wikipages
[10:04] <nixternal> just wondering if there is a wiki page
[10:04] <nalioth> nixternal: you aren't signed up for the ubuntu-irc mailing list?
[10:04] <nixternal> nalioth: yes
[10:05] <nixternal> is the link in there?
[10:05] <nalioth> Seveas: who did you need in Houston?
[10:05] <nixternal> I am logging into email right now
[10:05] <nalioth> nixternal: there are 3 links in the latest
[10:05] <Seveas> nalioth, just wanted to find the time difference between here and you
[10:05] <nixternal> nalioth: thanks!
[10:05] <nalioth> @lart nixternal for not keeping his email managed
[10:07] <nixternal> @lart nalioth for keeping his email managed
[10:08] <Seveas> @lart both of you for @larting each other
[10:09] <apokryphos> hm, with regard to the Guidelines
[10:10] <apokryphos> most of them are obviously just what we should be advising, but some of them are more a case of personal preference, like using +q, or /remove
[10:11] <nalioth> apokryphos: so edit it to make it more clear
[10:11] <apokryphos> we should mention those options (since ops don't know them) but we probably don't need to advise _against_ using the others
[10:11] <nalioth> bbl
[10:11] <apokryphos> ok, I'll make some changes and then anyone can check/comment on them
[10:13] <jenda> * jenda sets ban on %*!*@ubuntu/member/jdong
[10:13] <jenda> temporary, but needed :/
[10:14] <apokryphos> jenda: where?
[10:15] <jenda> #ubuntuforums
[10:15] <PriceChild> #ubuntuforums
[10:15] <Seveas> jenda, hmmm
[10:15] <apokryphos> @btlogin
[10:16] <Seveas> ah, i see why
[10:16] <Seveas> jenda doesn't like cigars
[10:16] <Seveas> FAST
[10:16] <elkbuntu> oh how uneducated some people are.... see comments to my latest post for more information
[10:16] <elkbuntu> *blog post
[10:16] <jenda> Seveas: :)
[10:16] <Seveas> jenda, /cs -n b nickname -- the -n causes you to stay opped
[10:16] <apokryphos> :O
[10:17] <Seveas> useful for doing bans in a row
[10:17] <jenda> ooh :)
[10:17] <jenda> thx
[10:23] <PriceChild> jenda, nice -n usage there :)
[10:23] <jenda> 
[10:25] <apokryphos> submitted new changes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[10:25] <apokryphos> and bleh, I do dislike moinmoin
[10:28] <nixternal> hey, how does one use the /remove feature for freenode?
[10:29] <Seveas> nixternal, /remove #channel nick
[10:29] <Seveas> nixternal, or if you have xchat, use chanserv.py :)
[10:29] <tsmithe> pah :P
[10:29] <Seveas> in that case it's ven worse
[10:29] <Seveas> /quote remove #channel nick
[10:30] <nixternal> nalioth drove me nuts during the IRC training for the classroom when I was using and having issues/questions with Konversation :)
[10:30] <LjL> #channel appears to be empty, though it's registered, and nick is not online, and not even registered
[10:33] <nixternal> so you have to op yourself first and then issue the command
[10:34] <jenda> Seveas: is it intentional that when voicer.py can't voice anyone, it voices me instead?
[10:34] <Seveas> no
[10:34] <Seveas> that'd be a bug
[10:35] <Seveas> jenda, fixed version uploaded
[10:35] <nixternal> :)
[10:35] <nixternal> I just removed everyone from my channel....hahahahah the script works ;p
[10:35] <jenda> 
[10:35] <jenda> nixternal: roflmao
[10:36] <jenda> nixternal: hmm, lemme try that in #ubuntu...
[10:36] <jenda> :)
[10:36] <nixternal> hehe
[10:36] <Seveas> jenda, /cs clear users is easier ;)
[10:36] <jenda> oh, thanks
[10:37] <jenda> O_O
[10:37] <LjL> do it *with* a forward to #ubuntu--ops or somesuch, so it'll actually look like the channel was cleaned :)
[10:38] <Seveas> LjL, oh noes
[10:38] <Seveas> you're getting evil!
[10:38] <LjL> heh
[10:38] <Seveas> hmm
[10:38] <Seveas> jenda can't be banned/forwarded
[10:38] <Seveas> stupid freenode staff
[10:38] <jenda> hehe
[10:39] <LjL> blah, he's even got a non ASCII realname, i bet +d will refuse to work just because of that >:
[10:39] <Seveas> woot
[10:39] <Seveas> that works :D
[10:39] <LjL> looks like
[10:39] <Seveas> alindeman/BearPerson: that seems to be a bug
[10:40] <LjL> some call those "features", but yeah
[10:41] <Seveas> bwahaha
[10:41] <PriceChild> rubbing it in now :)
[10:58] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Julie said: ubotu... what im saying is that i did the command in the terminal allready... gksudo nautilus.. but if i try to make a link of a file, it dosent work, it says i dont have permission
[10:58] <jenda> !bot > Julie
[10:59] <Tm_T> jenda: why not let him to find it out him/herself? ;)
[11:01] <jenda> hehe
[11:01] <jenda> because that's what I'm here for.
[12:17] <Seveas> somerville32_, ...
[12:17] <Seveas> RIGHT
[12:17] <Seveas> i KNEW i'm not crazy
[12:17] <Seveas> stupid xchat does nick completioin without tab
[12:18] <Seveas> lj, aad
[12:18] <mc44> so, not for me
[12:18] <Seveas> i really only typed so,...
[12:18] <Seveas> somerville32_, ...
[12:18] <Seveas> AGAIN
[12:18] <Seveas> all those times I thought I was insane :)
[12:18] <Seveas> ikonia, ... test
[12:18] <LjL> Seveas: well - wrong hypothesis, correct thesis.
[12:18] <Seveas> yup
[12:18] <LjL> happens.
[12:18] <mc44> Seveas: you really are insane
[12:18] <Seveas> sev, sada
[12:19] <Seveas> SportChick, adasd
[12:19] <mc44> Seveas: capitalised?
[12:19] <Seveas> Seveas, asasd
[12:19] <Seveas> indeed
[12:19] <Seveas> I so hate that
[12:19] <mc44> well doesnt do it for me, must be an option somewhere
[12:19] <Seveas> anyone else on xchat?
[12:19] <Seveas> feisty
[12:19] <mc44> ah, no
[12:19] <LjL> it *has* to be disablableblable
[12:20] <Seveas> Sev, asdasd
[12:20] <Seveas> disabled
[12:20] <Seveas> mystery finallt solved
[12:20] <LjL> yeah but i meant "there must be a way to disable it" :)
[12:20] <Seveas> now I can die happy
[12:20] <Seveas> LjL, it is disabled now
[12:20] <Seveas> there is a setting
[12:21] <Seveas> I vaguely even recall enabling it
[12:21] <Seveas> VERY vaguely
[12:21] <mc44> well well well
[12:21] <mc44> :)
[12:21] <LjL> Seveas: you're master of your own luck, you know. also, remember xchat isn't really a gnome app - so you *can* disable things
[12:22] <LjL> my randomometer says that wasn't random
[12:22] <mc44> Seveas: auto kick?
[12:22] <Seveas> LjL, hh
[12:22] <Seveas> mc44, no
[12:22] <LjL> well, the current ones are random
[12:22] <Seveas> trigger finger :)
[12:22] <mc44> haha
[12:22] <LjL> steady sequences of random numbers can definitely happen, everybody knows that
[12:22] <mc44> LjL: yes /dev/urandom/mc44
[12:23] <Seveas> Amaranth, see here
[12:23] <LjL> mc44: is that used to generate notes and armonies for polyphonic synthesizers?