[12:01] <syntaxshadow> yeah i looked it up on the dell site and they do not have drivers for linux
[12:01] <jrib> syntaxshadow: try lexmark drivers too, dells are just rebranded lexmarks
[12:01] <francois_> jrib: do you know how to downgrade packages ?
[12:01] <syntaxshadow> what are you saying francois?
[12:01] <jrib> francois_: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION
[12:01] <francois_> syntaxshadow: gimme a sec, i'll give you a link,
[12:01] <Pelo> syntaxshadow,  does that printer have an emulation mode ? like epson or ibm ?
[12:01] <Roadrunner1985> !dma
[12:01] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[12:01] <Hammwell> is ubuntu good for server-y stuff? or would gentoo be better? or is that a silly question?
[12:01] <zelrikriando> how to uninstall a package installed manually ?
[12:01] <francois_> jrib: how can i see package history ?
[12:01] <syntaxshadow> i saw a sight that said a guy tried lexmarks drivers and the did not work as well
[12:01] <predtech> #rd.pl
[12:02] <syntaxshadow> site*
[12:02] <jrib> francois_: what do you mean by that exactly?  Is 'apt-cache policy PACKAGE' what you want?
[12:02] <Knight_Lord> Pollywog single user
[12:02] <Knight_Lord> Pollywog what scripts?
[12:02] <Pelo> syntaxshadow,   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217106&highlight=dell+922
[12:02] <jrib> syntaxshadow: have you been to linuxprinting.org?
[12:02] <Eifersucht> Pollywog: ok first thing I am going to need to do is get this wireless working..... want to help me out ?
[12:02] <syntaxshadow> yeah
[12:02] <francois_> jrib: thank you, i can never remember that line, i'll write it down, :)
[12:02] <syntaxshadow> my printer is under paperweight T_T
[12:03] <Pollywog> Knight_Lord: there are scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d for systemwide use
[12:03] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: which card?
[12:03] <syntaxshadow> cool
[12:03] <syntaxshadow> thanks pelo
[12:03] <tier`> heh i dont even want to attempt printing on my linux box considering ill be trying to print from a printer hooked to a windows pc in another room haha
[12:03] <syntaxshadow> let me see if that works
[12:03] <Eifersucht> ok so how am i to figure that out Pollywog ?
[12:03] <Eifersucht> lspci ?
[12:03] <syntaxshadow> if it does i will be back for a big pat on the back
[12:03] <tier`> lspci would be a good start
[12:03] <syntaxshadow> brb
[12:03] <Pollywog> yes lspci might help
[12:03] <Eifersucht> ok well got that
[12:04] <thinh> what is the command for switching between internal and external monitor?
[12:04] <Eifersucht> I see 2 ethernet controllers come up
[12:04] <Pollywog> Knight_Lord: look at the gdm configs I think they mention the user config files
[12:04] <Pollywog> I do not have gdm installed here
[12:05] <hendaus> helpers !! is there any converter from .DAT to .iso?
[12:05] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: you can also look in menu System > Info center
[12:05] <Eifersucht> I think it is going to be the second one which says   Ethernet Controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Unknown device 8185 (rev 20)
[12:05] <Pelo> hendaus,  google and ubuntuforum are your friends,  search for dat2iso
[12:06] <Factory> Anyone here familiar with the website called stickam? if so you may have the answer to my webcam related question =] 
[12:06] <Knight_Lord> Pollywog seems like there's an option in the gnome control panle
[12:06] <Pollywog> Knight_Lord: yes I think there is
[12:06] <Roadrunner1985> !nvidia
[12:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:07] <Factory> !envy
[12:07] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[12:07] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: I think there is a Linux driver for that
[12:07] <Pollywog> I am checking
[12:07] <Eifersucht> yeah I found it yesterday but could not seem to get it working
[12:08] <Eifersucht> or i think i found it
[12:08] <Pollywog> is this a laptop?
[12:08] <tier`> about installing nvidia drivers... do those restricted repositories come on the live cd or will i need to be online to access them?
[12:08] <Eifersucht> yeah
[12:08] <Eifersucht> Gateway MT3705
[12:08] <Eifersucht> or 3750
[12:08] <Eifersucht> something like that
[12:09] <Alonea> was that bot for me? because i have been following that...
[12:09] <thinh> anyone able to help me with external monitor for laptop?
[12:09] <Factory> tier`, Pretty sure you'll need to be on ther interne.
[12:10] <Factory> internet*
[12:10] <Factory> Which shouldn't be a problem, seeing as how you'
[12:10] <Factory> re on it right now =)
[12:10] <tier`> im on a windows pc right now, im still in the midst of fiddling with the evil broadcomm 43xx chipset ;)
[12:10] <Roachclit> anyone really good with ubuntu's wireless set up and yet I went thru the help cummunity
[12:10] <cheeseboy> is it possible to watch youtube on linux?
[12:10] <Factory> Ah, hardware restrictions are no fun =(
[12:10] <Alonea> tier`: oh yes. i got that too
[12:10] <Factory> Yes, cheeseboy
[12:10] <jrib> !flash | cheeseboy
[12:10] <ubotu> cheeseboy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:10] <Factory> cheeseboy,  you need to install flash
[12:10] <Alonea> tier`: you rmmod bcm43xx?
[12:10] <Knight_Lord> cheeseboy yes, you need to install flash9
[12:10] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: maybe not... have you looked here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191776&highlight=realtek+8185
[12:10] <dibblego> is it possible to turn on VNC for a user remotely?
[12:11] <Knight_Lord> dibblego yes
[12:11] <tier`> alonea: yeah, seems im missing some more firmware. i gotta get that wl_apsta.o file or whatever
[12:11] <dibblego> Knight_Lord, how abouts?
[12:11] <Knight_Lord> dibblego what exactly do you want to do?
[12:11] <Roachclit> guys I have a PCMCIA card installed on my Dell Inspiron 8000
[12:11] <dibblego> Knight_Lord, just connect by VNC to the machine
[12:11] <hendaus> bruenig,  excuse me but i try cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever nameofiso.iso, and the cd writer burn the video 11 minutes
[12:11] <Factory> Roachclit, wayyyy cool dude
[12:11] <tier`> the firmware that was extracted from the drivers on my windows pc weren't enough. it's still giving me complains about missing nonsense when i check dmesg so
[12:11] <Knight_Lord> dibblego in a new x server? or like in windows sharing the desktop?
[12:11] <Alonea> tier`: uuwa? which broadcom card you got?
[12:11] <bruenig> hendaus, so it worked, good
[12:11] <dibblego> Knight_Lord, sharing the desktop
[12:11] <Eifersucht> No Pollywog but I have found in the ubuntu forums people with the same prob with the same model laptop
[12:11] <Knight_Lord> dibblego spying style :-)
[12:12] <Knight_Lord> dibblego ok then you need something other than vnc
[12:12] <tier`> wmp11 v2.7, the start of it all. Broadcomm 4301 hahaha.
[12:12] <dibblego> Knight_Lord, not exactly in this case :)
[12:12] <xamox> anyone know why my sound quit working? it was working, I accidentally removed all the groups I was from. Now it doesn't work, added myself to the audio group but it's still not working.
[12:12] <Knight_Lord> dibblego it's called x11vnc
[12:12] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: you tried ndiswrapper?
[12:12] <Roachclit> well the problem is Factory I can't get my wireless to wkr
[12:12] <Eifersucht> nope not yet
[12:12] <dibblego> Knight_Lord, ok thanks
[12:12] <hendaus> bruenig,  yes but why the movie works 11 minutes,and the film is 1 hour
[12:12] <Knight_Lord> dibblego you might be able to get it by doing apt-get install x11vnc if it's available
[12:12] <Factory> Roahclit, what is the model and make?
[12:12] <Eifersucht> seems like the only way anyone has been able to get it working
[12:12] <Knight_Lord> dibblego even then i'm not entirely sure if it's gonna work
[12:12] <Eifersucht> somewhat anyway
[12:12] <panfist> can anyone help me with a problem with VirtualBox? None of my VMs can format a partition when im trying to install them
[12:12] <Factory> !wireless
[12:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:12] <Roachclit> Linksys...something
[12:13] <Factory> And have you looked at that?
[12:13] <Roachclit> Factory I went thru that
[12:13] <Pollywog> xamox did you log out and back in?
[12:13] <okaratas> hello, i want to LDAP
[12:13] <Knight_Lord> dibblego man x11vnc should make it obvious
[12:13] <Roachclit> would you mind if I sent you some private messages
[12:13] <dibblego> Knight_Lord, ta
[12:13] <Factory> You'll have to do better than "linksys something"
[12:13] <Factory> Go ahead.
[12:13] <Knight_Lord> okaratas fgood luck, I highly suggest #ldap
[12:13] <bruenig> hendaus, don't know, leave me alone
[12:13] <xamox> Pollywog, yep, rebooted
[12:13] <Pollywog> xamox is sound working for the root user?
[12:14] <xamox> Pollywog, if I type groups, it shows I'm part of the audio group
[12:14] <syntaxshadow> yeah so the only remote possiblity of getting my printer to work is running a dual os
[12:14] <xamox> Pollywog, I didn't think there was a root user in ubuntu
[12:14] <syntaxshadow> which i don't want to do
[12:14] <Pollywog> oh yes I forgot
[12:14] <hendaus> bruenig,  sorry if i am disturbing u,but give me a converter from .DAT to .iso
[12:14] <Knight_Lord> syntaxshadow what printer?
[12:14] <Eifersucht> looks like i might need an internet connection to try out the ndiswrapper Pollywog
[12:14] <Agrajag> xamox: there is, it just doesn't have a password.
[12:14] <Pollywog> I have been using Debian and am new to Ubuntu
[12:14] <francois_> syntaxshadow: gimme a sec, i'll help you out
[12:14] <Knight_Lord> syntaxshadow no luck with CUPS?
[12:14] <Eifersucht> and I am at a cafe right now
[12:14] <Eifersucht> =/
[12:14] <bruenig> hendaus, .dat is not a disk image
[12:14] <syntaxshadow> dell all in on 922
[12:14] <bruenig> I don't think at least
[12:14] <syntaxshadow> no luck with cups
[12:14] <syntaxshadow> i mean it installs the printer
[12:14] <Toxix> hi everybody
[12:14] <syntaxshadow> but it is the driver that i need
[12:15] <hendaus> bruenig,  coz i have nero and i can make an image .nrg, is it works with the code that u gave me
[12:15] <Alonea> tier`: you follow the guide? and look on "the list" ? http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation  &  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[12:15] <syntaxshadow> i can install the printer without cups
[12:15] <Toxix> i'm seeking information about an possible participation of ubutun at the gsoc
[12:15] <thinh> how do i switch to external monitor
[12:15] <bruenig> hendaus, as I said I am done with it, everything I told you should work
[12:15] <syntaxshadow> but the driver seems to be a whole other problem
[12:15] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: see that post about 4 lines up?
[12:15] <cheeseboy>  whys it take 3 days to install flash?
[12:15] <thinh> what the command for probing connected monitor?
[12:15] <francois_> syntaxshadow: GIVE ME A SEC! I'LL HELP U OUT!
[12:15] <Eifersucht> about ndiswrapper ?
[12:15] <syntaxshadow> thanks francois
[12:16] <jrib> cheeseboy: 3 days?  Can you ask a better question?
[12:16] <Pollywog> I have not had the ahem... pleasure of having to use ndiswrapper
[12:16] <hendaus> bruenig,  ok but tell me if it can work with .nrg like this --> cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever nameofiso.nrg
[12:16] <Pollywog> yes that one, might help you
[12:16] <qmario_> How do I fix the W_ERR_ACCESS_DENIED error from rpcclient?
[12:16] <syntaxshadow> i would prefer if anyone looking to help me could pm me cause i can keep track of the advice better
[12:16] <Ussuer> can someone help
[12:16] <bruenig> hendaus, don't kow try it out
[12:16] <jrib> !helpme | Ussuer
[12:16] <ubotu> Ussuer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:16] <Eifersucht> yeah I will have to DL it on my windows machine then transfer to my usb drive then pop it in the ubuntu machine then deal with all that =/
[12:16] <Eifersucht> bleh
[12:16] <zelrikriando> how to delete a package ?
[12:16] <jrib> !apt | zelrikriando
[12:16] <ubotu> zelrikriando: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:16] <tecta> hmm when i remove openoffice in feisty it wants to install compiz?
[12:16] <Knight_Lord> zelrikriando apt-get remove
[12:16] <jrib> tecta: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[12:16] <Pollywog> apt-get remove packagename
[12:16] <Toxix> Google Summer of Code <--- anyone has any information about that?
[12:17] <cheeseboy> jrib, why is adobe's server goin 42 b/s?
[12:17] <thinh> need help getting my external monitor work
[12:17] <zelrikriando> I installed the package manually
[12:17] <jrib> cheeseboy: that's an adobe issue, I have no idea
[12:17] <QMario> How do I fix the W_ERR_ACCESS_DENIED error from rpcclient?
[12:17] <syntaxshadow> i just use the synaptic package manager
[12:17] <syntaxshadow> it is pretty cool
[12:17] <Knight_Lord> zelrikriando no difference
[12:17] <zelrikriando> I dont know how it is called
[12:17] <Pollywog> Tox  try code.google.com
[12:17] <hendaus> bruenig,  ok mencoder is for what? is it necessary for movies?
[12:17] <Knight_Lord> zelrikriando what's the name of the file you installed?
[12:17] <bruenig> !mencoder
[12:17] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[12:17] <francois_> syntaxshadow: ok, are you ready ?
[12:17] <syntaxshadow> ready
[12:17] <zelrikriando>  alsa-driver-1.0.13
[12:17] <syntaxshadow> don't suppose you could pm me
[12:17] <francois_> syntaxshadow: lol no
[12:17] <thinh> it work with live and fresh installation but when i upgrade the nvidia drivers it switch to my internal screen when x boots up
[12:17] <Knight_Lord> zelrikriando then apt-get remove alsa-driver
[12:18] <francois_> syntaxshadow: but i'll be here, for whatever help you need,
[12:18] <syntaxshadow> how doyou keep up with all this traffic
[12:18] <syntaxshadow> ok
[12:18] <syntaxshadow> well i will take what i can get
[12:18] <francois_> syntaxshadow: we need to find this printer of yours specific ppd file
[12:18] <hendaus> bruenig,  :) thanx..bye
[12:18] <syntaxshadow> see i was looking for that
[12:18] <Toxix> that'll be my last try
[12:18] <syntaxshadow> and i couldn't find it
[12:18] <francois_> syntaxshadow: your supplyer would have that,
[12:18] <francois_> syntaxshadow: do you ahve a cd? its prolly on there,
[12:18] <syntaxshadow> it is Dell photo AIO 922
[12:18] <Ussuer> whats the next number in the sequence -> 1 3 7 15 31
[12:19] <syntaxshadow> wait
[12:19] <Mq> Toxix, forget about summer of code
[12:19] <Pollywog> Knight_Lord: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gdm/docs/2.8/configuration.html
[12:19] <syntaxshadow> the driver is usually a .exe file
[12:19] <Mq> u don't have place ther
[12:19] <syntaxshadow> right?
[12:19] <francois_> 63
[12:19] <thinh> anyone stumnble on this issue before
[12:19] <Ussuer> how do you get 63 ?
[12:19] <francois_> syntaxshadow: no, not in this case
[12:19] <xamox> no one has any idea why my sound just doesn't work anymore?
[12:19] <thinh> cant seem to find any solution to my problem
[12:19] <Pollywog> If you do not live in the US and if you don't have a US Taxpayer ID, forget it
[12:19] <francois_> syntaxshadow: we're looking for a ppd file,
[12:19] <zelrikriando> it cant find it
[12:19] <Knight_Lord> Pollywog thanks a lot i got it working. I think .xsession actually works
[12:19] <syntaxshadow> ok let me see if it is in my driver cd
[12:19] <syntaxshadow> on sec
[12:20] <tier-> Ussuer: it's definitely 63
[12:20] <Pollywog> xamox it was working and then stopped?
[12:20] <Pollywog> did you upgrade the kernel?
[12:20] <jrib> Ussuer: try #math
[12:20] <Ussuer> Hi tier how did you get 63 ?
[12:20] <tier-> 1 + 2 = 3 + 4 = 7 + 8 = 15 + 16 = 31 + 32 = 63 woot
[12:20] <francois_> Ussuer: next number is 63
[12:20] <delmar> When installing ubuntu 6.10 it simply will not detect the network card. I have tried netgear, 3com & intel cards, and different slots, (abit vp6 board) and every time the cards detect during Bios Post, they work in windows on the same box, but the ununtu install keeps saying no network controler found... alt-f2 to the other console and 'lspci' shows nothing....empty.. really wierd.   Anyone have any thoughts on this?
[12:20] <zelrikriando> Knight_Lord it cant find it
[12:20] <xamox> Pollywog, it was working. I accidentally removed myself from a bunch of groups. I added myself back to those groups and now it's not working
[12:20] <QMario> Does any know how to fix the W_ERR_ACCESS_DENIED error from rpcclient?
[12:20] <Pollywog> ohhh
[12:20] <fisheye> back!!
[12:20] <tier-> 2^(x+1) yay
[12:20] <Eifersucht> Pollywog other than ndiswarapper what else am I going to need ?
[12:21] <francois_> syntaxshadow: find it ?
[12:21] <fisheye> thanks a bunch knight_lord!!!!
[12:21] <syntaxshadow> found the cd
[12:21] <Knight_Lord> zelrikriando dpkg -r package
[12:21] <francois_> tier-: actually, (2*x) + 1
[12:21] <Knight_Lord> fisheye you're welcome
[12:21] <syntaxshadow> let me look and see if i can see it
[12:21] <fisheye> it worked perfectly (funcionaste perfecltali)
[12:21] <Pollywog> xamox go to your home directory and make sure your permissions are correct
[12:21] <Pollywog> and ownerships
[12:21] <Ussuer> [23:17:36]  <tier-> 1 + 2 = 3 + 4 = 7 + 8 = 15 + 16 = 31 + 32 = 63 woot but there is no 16 it's - 1 3 7 15 31
[12:21] <fisheye> (funcionaites)
[12:22] <panfist> if my sound suddenly stopped working, how would i go about figuring out why and fixing it
[12:22] <Ztripez> I'm looking for a how-to setup an vpn server on edgy.. any1 got any good link?
[12:22] <Pollywog> xamox: for /home/username and the directories in it
[12:22] <francois_> Ussuer: dude, its just times twice and then + 1
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> !vpn
[12:22] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[12:22] <tier-> francois_: i was thinking of it as an increase in the power of 2
[12:22] <francois_> Ussuer: so the first number is doubled, then add one
[12:22] <zelrikriando> it says that it is not installed, Knight_Lord
[12:22] <Eifersucht> Pollywog: what else is it I am going to need other than ndiswrapper ?
[12:22] <syntaxshadow> i got it searching for *.ppd right now
[12:22] <Ussuer> confusing isn't it heh
[12:22] <tier-> like 1 + 2^1 = 3 + 2^2 = 7 + 2^3 = 15
[12:22] <francois_> syntaxshadow: ok let me konw what you find
[12:22] <xamox> Pollywog, what perms? make sure they belong to user: xamox group:xamox ?
[12:23] <Pollywog> xamox: exactly
[12:23] <zelrikriando> but I remember doing a make insall successfully
[12:23] <fetcher> The 6.10 boot CD is trying to use a video mode my monitor can't display in Xorg.  Is there any way to force plain 640x480, for at least the initial install?
[12:23] <zelrikriando> install*
[12:23] <xamox> Pollywog, they do
[12:23] <Pollywog> xamox try to use a sound app from the command line
[12:23] <fetcher> The F4 boot menu doesn't help... those mode settings don't seem to apply after X starts
[12:23] <xamox> like what?
[12:23] <xamox> Pollywog, ^^^
[12:23] <francois_> tier-: ha, i guess that woulod work too, wouldn't it, clever
[12:23] <fisheye> anyone use Processing?
[12:23] <tier-> fetcher: haha i had that problem.. spent half my install with my screen covered in obnoxious pink
[12:23] <Pollywog> try to play a sound and watch the error message
[12:24] <xamox> Pollywog, with what program?
[12:24] <Pollywog> the play command if you have sox installed
[12:24] <Eifersucht> doesnt matter really
[12:24] <cafuego_> congratulations, you've just discovered 2x^2 - 1
[12:24] <francois_> syntaxshadow: brb
[12:24] <Eifersucht> anything xamox
[12:24] <tier-> next step.. differential equations
[12:24] <tier-> haha
[12:24] <Eifersucht> or you could use what did you say amarok is what you were trying to use before
[12:24] <cafuego_> sorry, (2 * 2^x) -1
[12:25] <IndyGunFreak> sounds like this dude is an idiot
[12:25] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: go to the Ubuntu forums there is a section for ndiswrapper and it tells you what you need but I am pretty sure you need the Windows drivers for the card
[12:25] <IndyGunFreak> Sorry about that, that wsa for an IM...lol
[12:25] <Pollywog> IndyGunFreak: hey I am trying
[12:25] <Pollywog> not to be one
[12:25] <Eifersucht> ok so what i need now is the windows drivers for that card then
[12:25] <xamox> Pollywog, play command is showing it playing
[12:25] <Ussuer> thanks for your help guys
[12:25] <xamox> Pollywog, but no sound
[12:25] <IndyGunFreak> Pollywog: i wasn't referring to anyone here, it was supposed to be for an IM
[12:25] <Pollywog> oh
[12:25] <tier-> eifersucht: yep, find the .inf and .sys files
[12:25] <Eifersucht> lol
[12:26] <tier-> hopefully you got a cd with your gateway :)
[12:26] <Eifersucht> ermmm....ok tier-
[12:26] <fisheye> anybody wanna make a opensource based animation studio? :)
[12:26] <Eifersucht> haha
[12:26] <Eifersucht> well yeah
[12:26] <Eifersucht> but its at home
[12:26] <Pollywog> xamox humor me, is the sound turned on (speakers)?
[12:26] <syntaxshadow> ok well francois there is no .ppd file on my driver cd
[12:26] <cafuego_> fisheye: one already exists
[12:26] <Pollywog> plugged in, etc?
[12:26] <xamox> Pollywog, yes, and the mixer is turned up
[12:26] <Knight_Lord> fisheye have you looked at blender?
[12:26] <gesus> !divx
[12:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:26] <Eifersucht> i should be able to go to their site and find the driver though
[12:26] <tier-> well if that's the case you can undoudtedly find the drivers online somewhere
[12:26] <fisheye> yes of course
[12:26] <tier-> yeah
[12:26] <Pollywog> does the mixer have a slash through it?
[12:26] <fisheye> im using blender right now
[12:27] <zero> hey guys, i just got ubuntu running and ive got a problem with my sound card... and was hoping one of you could help me out
[12:27] <xamox> Pollywog, nope
[12:27] <syntaxshadow> francois?
[12:27] <fisheye> i was talking about making a company, a project
[12:27] <xamox> Pollywog, it's turned up about 3/4
[12:27] <Eifersucht> well i did read that in the ubuntu forums someone able to get it to work
[12:27] <xamox> Pollywog, not muted
[12:27] <Pollywog> xamox I think you have an easy problem to fix
[12:27] <Eifersucht> the only thing that didnt quite work right was the signal meter
[12:27] <Eifersucht> but thats fine for now
[12:27] <syntaxshadow> wonder what happened to him
[12:27] <Pollywog> xamox do you have xmms?
[12:27] <Eifersucht> until it is supported
[12:27] <xamox> Pollywog, amarok
[12:27] <fetcher> This box has a Matrox G400 card.  Maybe the mga driver in 6.10 has problems?
[12:27] <syntaxshadow> thought he was going to help me out
[12:28] <ali_ameer> hi...please anyone can help regarding installation of sagem dsl on ubuntu? (i am new with linux)
[12:28] <Pollywog> when you play a sound file in Amarok does the graph show it is playing?
[12:28] <xamox> Pollywog, tried playing stuff, shows it's playing, no sound, crank up the volume in it.
[12:28] <xamox> Pollywog, yep
[12:28] <syntaxshadow> francois?
[12:28] <orwen> Hi, i just blast my mbr, with a stupid command i hide the partition where is /boot
[12:28] <Pollywog> hmmm
[12:28] <syntaxshadow> i am guessing he logged
[12:28] <xamox> Pollywog, exactly
[12:28] <orwen> and grub do not start now
[12:28] <Eifersucht> Pollywog could he just try running alsaconf ?
[12:28] <Knight_Lord> xamox is your sound on?
[12:28] <Pollywog> xamox look for really easy things
[12:28] <syntaxshadow> can anyone else help me?
[12:28] <salah> hello. I just installed Enlightenment desktop on my Ubuntu 6.10. Any ideas how to start it?
[12:28] <xamox> sound on?
[12:28] <xamox> It's not muted
[12:29] <Knight_Lord> xamox are your headphones connected?
[12:29] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: yes he could but I think his problem is simpler than he thinks
[12:29] <sethk> syntaxshadow, there is a web site for generating ppd files for printers
[12:29] <Pollywog> change speakers or headphones
[12:29] <sethk> syntaxshadow, someone will know the URL
[12:29] <xamox> Knight_Lord, no, it was working perfectly fine. I removed myself from all groups by accident, added myself again
[12:29] <Eifersucht> you think it has something to do with perms maybe ?
[12:29] <xamox> Knight_Lord, doesn't work now
[12:29] <xamox> What are all the default groups? Maybe I missed one
[12:29] <Knight_Lord> xamox removing and adding from groups only takes effect after loging out and loging in again
[12:30] <syntaxshadow> and you don't know the website off hand sethk?
[12:30] <Pollywog> xamox I think your sound app file permissions might have changed
[12:30] <xamox> Knight_Lord, Yes, I know that already rebooted
[12:30] <sethk> syntaxshadow, something-o-matic.  google for CUPS and look for the word 'matic' and you'll find it
[12:30] <Alonea> anyone have any experience with installing fglrx drivers for ATI cards on AMD64 machines? Driver wont install http://pastebin.ca/394315
[12:30] <syntaxshadow> see i did cups already
[12:30] <Alonea> also this is what flgrxinfo outputs http://pastebin.ca/395303
[12:30] <syntaxshadow> it didn't work
[12:30] <Pollywog> xamox you did not need to reboot unless you upgraded the kernel
[12:30] <Pollywog> this is not the billygates os
[12:30] <Pollywog> ;)
[12:30] <sethk> syntaxshadow, you generated a ppd file?
[12:30] <xamox> Pollywog, /usr/bin/amarok owned by root. But I can fire up the program
[12:31] <syntaxshadow> sethk i thought if i had a .ppd file then it would make cups work
[12:31] <Factory> Alright, quick one, how do I disable my mounts from appearing on the desktop? For example, when I insert a cd?
[12:31] <Dumahen> !rar
[12:31] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:31] <jjast73> Alonea, try this link http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[12:31] <Knight_Lord> xamox it should be owned by root
[12:31] <sethk> syntaxshadow, that's probably correct.  that's why I suggested the web site.
[12:31] <craigbass1976> Pollywog, amazing how in some ways we are now spoiled using Linux.  I had to fix a windows box the other day and it rebooted seven or eight times.
[12:31] <erstazi> anyone know of a good text editor that can handle a file thats >3GB?
[12:31] <syntaxshadow> i used cups to add a printer but after adding it i tried to print a test page it went to the job tray then left without printing
[12:31] <Knight_Lord> erstazi vim?
[12:31] <sethk> syntaxshadow, place to start is:   http://openprinting.org/driver_list.cgi
[12:31] <jrib> erstazi: vim or ed :)
[12:31] <xamox> What are all the default groups? I belong to: xamox adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data video lpadmin scanner admin
[12:31] <Pollywog> you would think MS would figure out how to fix it by now
[12:31] <Factory> syntaxshadow, did you install the correct drivers?
[12:31] <syntaxshadow> maybe look for a .ppd generator?
[12:31] <syntaxshadow> that is the problem
[12:32] <syntaxshadow> i need to find a driver for ubuntu
[12:32] <Knight_Lord> xamox I don't think you have a permissions problem
[12:32] <Knight_Lord> xamox how does your alsamixer looks like?
[12:32] <GWestSide> is there a way of installing ubuntu with out gnome
[12:32] <Factory> syntaxshadow, then why are you not in a webbrowser?
[12:32] <syntaxshadow> my problem is that i can't find a driver for my printer
[12:32] <GWestSide> ?
[12:32] <ali_ameer> please guys... some help regarding sagem DSL installation on ubuntu
[12:32] <Pollywog> xamox I don't know what it is but I still think it is ownerships or permissions
[12:32] <Factory> syntaxshadow, then you have not looked hard enough yet.
[12:32] <syntaxshadow> what do you mean factory?
[12:32] <xamox> Knight_Lord, all levels about 1/2 way up
[12:32] <jrib> GWestSide: kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-server  choose your poison
[12:32] <Eifersucht> Pollywog: which one do i need ? http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/search.asp?ref=step&st=browse&platform=10022&model=11015&os=&type=
[12:32] <syntaxshadow> don't tell me i have't looked hard enough
[12:32] <gili> hey i need a hand with something in OpenOffice
[12:32] <syntaxshadow> i have been online all afternoon
[12:32] <Factory> syntaxshadow, Do you think we will look harder?
[12:32] <xamox> I think it's perms too because I remove myself from groups and then it quits working
[12:32] <Pollywog> xamox get ready to laugh when you find the problem
[12:32] <GWestSide> yeah but i allreaddy have the ubuntu disc
[12:32] <Eifersucht> gili what ya got ?
[12:33] <erstazi> Knight_Lord, jrib: vim might not be able to
[12:33] <zero> so, anyone have an idea about using a creative sound blaster x-fi card with 6.10?
[12:33] <gili> in MS word there is a feature to get color in old WordPerfect colores
[12:33] <syntaxshadow> ok so i see you are the elitest snob of the group it seems
[12:33] <Knight_Lord> erstazi why so?
[12:33] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: the one for your chipset
[12:33] <syntaxshadow> i wish there was a /ignore on here
[12:33] <gili> is there such a feature in Open Office
[12:33] <xamox> Pollywog, I hope so, I'm about to jsut format because it's pissing me off
[12:33] <r4nge> so sysklogd starts syslogd?
[12:33] <Eifersucht> ermmm......
[12:33] <Factory> syntaxshadow, Not elitist, just not sure what you want us to do
[12:33] <Eifersucht> which is ?
[12:33] <Eifersucht> lol
[12:33] <syntaxshadow> lame
[12:33] <syntaxshadow> don't worry about it factory
[12:33] <Factory> syntaxshadow, Alright, but you won't find someone to do your homework for you, either.
[12:33] <erstazi> Knight_Lord: the works of satan? just playing. its still loading... just afraid it won't load it
[12:33] <slvmchn> there IS /ignore on here isn't there? it's IRC
[12:33] <syntaxshadow> how very mature of you
[12:34] <gili> let me refrase that....can i get openoffice to do the same MS word command of having blue background white text.??? Word perfect mode?
[12:34] <jrib> erstazi: if you turn off syntax hilighting, I think it should load up ok
[12:34] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: go to the forums first and check the section devoted to ndiswrapper
[12:34] <erstazi> jrib: oh jebz, I forgot about that
[12:34] <Factory> PS, there IS ignore. /ignore <hostname> <type>
[12:34] <Knight_Lord> erstazi what kind of file is it? just normal .txt?
[12:34] <erstazi> Knight_Lord: SQL
[12:34] <jjast73> gili, check out http://openoffice.org
[12:34] <Eifersucht> ermmmm ok
[12:34] <Pollywog> someone else probably has used the same one and has experience and more info
[12:34] <Knight_Lord> erstazi yea then you should have turned off syntax highlighting
[12:34] <syntaxshadow> awesome
[12:34] <Pollywog> didn't Gateway supply a CD with drivers?
[12:35] <Knight_Lord> erstazi by the way I also highly recomend using vi -F!
[12:36] <erstazi> Knight_Lord: thank you!
[12:36] <erstazi> jrib: thank you!
[12:36] <Roachclit> Hey Syntaxshadow ....Factory was attempting to give me help but then he started acting like a little kid and I ignored him
[12:37] <ali_ameer> hello...... guys please...... some help
[12:37] <pdxmitch> When I start Ubuntu off a CD on my old computer, it takes several minutes to do everything.  Loading the desktop, putting the toolbars on the desktop, putting icons on the desktop -- everything takes an eternity.  I think my CD drive must have a very slow read speed.
[12:37] <pdxmitch> Also when I start Ubuntu off a CD on my old computer, I get an error saying the GNOME Settings Daemon couldn't start, that the last error was that there was no reply received, that this would affect things like themes and sounds, and that GNOME would try starting the Settings Daemon again next time.
[12:37] <pdxmitch> Rather than try to use this molasses-slow Ubuntu off the CD, I try right away to install.  The CD drive cranks away for a few minutes, then stops, and I notice that my cursor won't move.  It's hung, and no window had even popped up yet.  I'm wondering, is it possible my CD drive is just too slow?
[12:37] <salah> hello. any ideas how to select GDM as a default display manager again? now I have XDM
[12:37] <Roachclit> I think he believes he knows what he is talking about but really doesn't.
[12:37] <jrib> salah: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:37] <Factory> salah: I have a link, one second.
[12:37] <Factory> Heh, or that =)
[12:37] <tier-> ok this may be the most retarded question ever... but say i open a terminal window, then do a man <insert random command> ... i read the manual page but uh how do i close the man page, i always end up closing the term window and opening a new one.
[12:38] <darweth> Does anyone know how to change how firefox handles certain files?  I accidentally set torrent files to always dload to the desktop, but i want the open/save dialog back instead.  i tried managing file-types in content prefs, but it is not there.
[12:38] <jrib> tier-: q,  read  'man intro'
[12:38] <userund> tier-, hit q
[12:38] <tier-> woot, i am a sped
[12:38] <salah> oh thanks
[12:38] <tier-> thanks
[12:38] <I_slapped> tier, use the info command... much easier
[12:38] <ali_ameer> sagem DSL installation help please......
[12:38] <cheeseboy> anyone got link to flash 9 outside of adobes site?
[12:39] <Factory> evenin' Slart
[12:39] <Factory> cheeseboy, You can always use aptitude to get flash =)
[12:39] <Slart> evening Factory
[12:40] <Slart> for a second there I thought I was being autogreeted =)
[12:40] <cheeseboy> factory apt-get doesnt work
[12:40] <Factory> Slart, Heh, well I AM a robot
[12:40] <cheeseboy> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[12:40] <jrib> cheeseboy: I have it here, want a dcc?
[12:40] <cheeseboy> sure
[12:40] <mrpoundsign> hmm, is it possible to upgrade to from Edgy to Feisty ?
[12:40] <PriceChild> !upgrade | mrpoundsign
[12:41] <ubotu> mrpoundsign: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:41] <bandit> hey guys. this is kinda un-related to ubuntu, but can anyone else NOT connect to login.oscar.aol.com?
[12:41] <PriceChild> mrpoundsign, feisty isn't finished yet and is buggy :)
[12:41] <Sum1> How do you install flash plugins for firefox in linux?
[12:41] <PriceChild> bandit, I'm fine
[12:41] <Factory> mrpoundsign, Yes, apt-get upgrade -c -d =)
[12:41] <Factory> careful though
[12:41] <Factory> er
[12:41] <Slart> Sum1: are you using edgy 32-bit? or something else?
[12:41] <I_slapped> Suml - google it
[12:41] <mrpoundsign> PriceChild: Edgy is buggy, too.  :)
[12:41] <cheeseboy> jirb thank you
[12:41] <Sum1> I am using 6.10
[12:41] <jrib> cheeseboy: np
[12:41] <Slart> Sum1: 32-bit? or 64-bit?
[12:41] <bandit> PriceChild, oh man! i tried to telnet to see the responsiveness and its uber slow
[12:41] <Sum1> 32
[12:42] <bandit> and i am pretty sure it's not me
[12:42] <Slart> Sum1: then it shouldn't be a problem.. let's see
[12:42] <Slart> !flash
[12:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:42] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:42] <SailorJerry> Hey everyone I was wondering if someone out there may have had some experience getting E-VDO cards running on their system. I've followed the directions on many how-to's and it appears the card is up and has a signal(flashing green led vs orange when there is a problem) the card I have is a Sierra Wireless Aircard 580 I'm to the point where I'm trying to test and query the modem which should be /dev/ttyUSB0 (which is what it says in
[12:42] <Slart> Sum1: check the links that ubotu so kindly gave you
[12:42] <Sum1> thanks
[12:42] <Sum1> !backports
[12:42] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[12:43] <Slart> Sum1: it's a really common question.. if you try a google for "ubuntu flash" you'll get lots and lots of pages talking about it
[12:43] <syntaxshadow> thanks to all of you who tried to help me out
[12:43] <Sum1> thanks folks - good info .. omw now.
[12:43] <syntaxshadow> if i ever find a solution i will post it on the forums
[12:43] <syntaxshadow> take care
[12:43] <Slart> Sum1: good luck
[12:44] <mrpoundsign> I'm diving into 7.04 -- because I need evolution updated.  haha  :)
[12:44] <razzorz> so i formated my extra H/d to ext3 and i still cant write to it..  is there something i am doin wrong??
[12:44] <N3WB> Question: Could i run Steam (Valve Steam) on Ubuntu with Wine?
[12:44] <Slart> razzorz: might be a permission problem?
[12:44] <razzorz> ya
[12:44] <razzorz> thats what it is
[12:45] <Slart> razzorz: have you mounted it?
[12:45] <ps-ef> razzorz type: dmesg or tail -f /var/log/messages to see any errors
[12:45] <Knight_Lord> N3WB I wouldn't count on it
[12:45] <razzorz> cmon now..
[12:45] <razzorz> lol. ya its mounted
[12:45] <I_slapped> hmm, yeah so
[12:46] <ibara> I run Steam just fine with wine
[12:46] <I_slapped> did you see any errors when you mounted it
[12:46] <I_slapped> how did you mount it?
[12:46] <I_slapped> is it a sata drive, IDE, etc?
[12:46] <razzorz> oh wait.. lets make myslef real clear first..
[12:46] <razzorz> i have a ide enclosure kit..
[12:46] <razzorz> usb h/d
[12:47] <I_slapped> ok, so it comes up has /dev/sd*?
[12:47] <razzorz> no it comes up as usbdrive.. now its labled tunez
[12:47] <gesus> hello helpers, i've DEFINITELY got all the codecs i need for divx.  up until today have been able to pay divx.  when i play them, it plays the movie but has a black screen instead of the movie.  any ideas? ty
[12:47] <razzorz> i see it on my desktop..
[12:47] <I_slapped> ah ok
[12:48] <Slart> razzorz: you could try doing a "sudo chmod a+rw /mnt/hda1" .. change mountpoint according to your own setup
[12:48] <shdowhawk> Hi all... not sure if i should be here or somewhere else ... but can anyone tell me how to get my php5 working?  My html seems to be working great ... but phpinfo() isn't working.  Not sure if it's an apache issue or what... nor do iknow how to check =/
[12:48] <razzorz> chmod: cannot access `/mnt/hda1': No such file or directory
[12:48] <mrpoundsign> shdowhawk: you created a file called "file.php" or some such, or did you make it ".html" ?
[12:48] <Slart> razzorz: mm.. you probably don't have it mounted at /mnt/hda1..
[12:48] <gili> how do i change the background in OpenOffice....thats all i want to do...
[12:48] <gili> :-(
[12:49] <darweth> Does anyone know how to change how firefox handles certain files?  I accidentally set torrent files to always dload to the desktop, but i want the open/save dialog back instead.  i tried managing file-types in content prefs, but it is not there.
[12:49] <Slart> razzorz: that part was just an example..
[12:49] <razzorz> i c...
[12:49] <razzorz> can you dig a little deeper for me ?
[12:49] <razzorz> what do i need to do..
[12:49] <I_slapped> most USB inclosers come up as /dev/sda devices, not hda
[12:49] <I_slapped> scsi emulation for USB
[12:49] <tier-> sometimes i think ubuntu hates me
[12:49] <Slart> razzorz: it's probably some other place.. hmm.. how to find hard drives..anyone?
[12:49] <I_slapped> fdisk -l
[12:49] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: my index.html works file.  my index.php with <?php phpinfo(); ?> is not showing the dump... only the literally thing i wrote
[12:49] <Factory> tier-,  Ubuntu is a friendly distro =)
[12:50] <gili> ok let me ask this in a more common sense....i want the background change as a template
[12:50] <Factory> tier-, You must have mad e ajoke about its mother or something
[12:50] <Slart> ok.. do a fdisk -l .... see what it tells you
[12:50] <tier-> factory: oh i know, ive run slackware and some others before
[12:50] <Factory> You poor thing =p
[12:50] <mrpoundsign> shdowhawk: what php packages did you install?
[12:50] <I_slapped> razzorz, you may need to do sudo fdisk -l
[12:50] <razzorz> ok
[12:50] <razzorz> lets see
[12:50] <I_slapped> ok
[12:51] <Eleaf> In imagemagick, is it possible to scale either the height/width and have the other scaled in proportion?
[12:51] <tier-> im just perplexed, i just rebooted my system after installing pretty much every possible firmware i could need for my damn broadcomm chipset nic, and uh now when i log in gnome never loads, i just get the blank background screen and a lil white box in the upper left corner.
[12:51] <Slart> hmm... fdisk -l only shows partitions... try "mount" instead.. it will list all fs mounted
[12:51] <tier-> ugh
[12:51] <Eleaf> like convert -resize 100x*, but that doesn't work
[12:51] <razzorz> ok there it is..
[12:51] <tier-> seems the only thing i can do is get into a terminal
[12:51] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: lots =)  everything from libapache2-mod-php5 ... php5 .. to a bunch of extras like the curl, gd, mcrypt etc
[12:51] <tier-> but not like i know what the problem is haha
[12:51] <I_slapped> Slart, it shows the DISK and the parts, the main desk is always /dev/hda*
[12:51] <I_slapped> or /dev/sda*
[12:52] <razzorz> yes
[12:52] <I_slapped> which is the main disk, 1,2,3 are partitions
[12:52] <mrpoundsign> shdowhawk: and did you re-start apache after the package installation?
[12:52] <I_slapped> so from fdisk -l you get the following
[12:52] <I_slapped> jjast73
[12:52] <razzorz> Disk /dev/sda: 10.2 GB, 10262568960 bytes
[12:52] <I_slapped> ok
[12:52] <I_slapped> just what I thought
[12:52] <I_slapped> razzorz, try this
[12:53] <razzorz> Disk /dev/hdb: 300.0 GB, 300090728448 bytes
[12:53] <I_slapped> sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive
[12:53] <razzorz> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[12:53] <razzorz> ok
[12:53] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: restart / apache2 stop ... then start ... even restarted the computer
[12:53] <I_slapped> how big is this drive you want to mount?
[12:53] <razzorz> 10 gigs
[12:53] <I_slapped> so it's the /dev/sda disk
[12:53] <dk_ii> Is this the correct way to install Java > 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin' ?
[12:53] <gesus> hello helpers --- i've definitely got all the codecs i need for divx.  up until today have been able to pay divx.  when i play them, it plays the movie but has a black screen instead of the movie.  any ideas?
[12:53] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: know if the apache2 access log or something would show an error if a php file was called and not working?
[12:54] <jrib> dk_ii: yes
[12:54] <razzorz> yes
[12:54] <dk_ii> ok thanks
[12:54] <I_slapped> is the disk formated with ext3?
[12:54] <mrpoundsign> shdowhawk: hmm, and dpkg -l shows the apache2 module for php?
[12:54] <I_slapped> or was it setup with windows NTFS?
[12:54] <razzorz> shit
[12:54] <razzorz> sorry
[12:54] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: lemme check that.  I'm new to debian type goodness =)
[12:54] <I_slapped> what?
[12:54] <razzorz> well i did have it ntcf... formated with Pmagic to ext3
[12:54] <razzorz> but now i see its still ntfs
[12:55] <I_slapped> ok no worries
[12:55] <mrpoundsign> shdowhawk: no worries.  I needed a newer version of Apache and PHP so I built from source.  heh
[12:55] <I_slapped> ok so we will setup it up
[12:55] <bruenig> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda /media/usbdrive
[12:55] <razzorz> ok
[12:55] <Slart> razzorz: forgot to press "apply" in partition magic? I do that all the time =)
[12:55] <razzorz> cmon now
[12:55] <razzorz> lol
[12:55] <I_slapped> bruenig, only if the kernel modules are setup for his distro
[12:55] <razzorz> have in the past...
[12:55] <razzorz> but not today
[12:55] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: libapache2-mod-php5 is showing up for it
[12:55] <bruenig> I_slapped, is he not on ubuntu
[12:55] <I_slapped> ok, so
[12:56] <razzorz> can i write to ntfs?
[12:56] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g
[12:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:56] <mrpoundsign> shdowhawk: and if you grep for php in your httpd.conf, what do you get?  (pm me if it's a bunch of lines)
[12:56] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: cool... gimme a sec to let me check
[12:56] <I_slapped> no, not by default
[12:56] <ramza3> hmm, when I am working with an application in the terminal, the arrow keys do not work, is there something I need to do
[12:56] <I_slapped> what distro are you using
[12:57] <razzorz> ???
[12:57] <bruenig> I_slapped, you do know what channel you are in right
[12:57] <razzorz> cmon now!
[12:57] <Shaba1> Hello folks
[12:57] <mrpoundsign> ramza3: what terminal, what application?
[12:57] <razzorz> gnome,
[12:57] <I_slapped> razzorz, that's your windows manager... :-)
[12:57] <razzorz> ok whats distro?
[12:57] <I_slapped> razzorz, nevermind... just do this.
[12:58] <bruenig> razzorz, just tell him ubuntu, he didn't gather that from the channel name apparently
[12:58] <razzorz> lol ya
[12:58] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: hmm ... interesting.  Nothing in my httpd.conf
[12:58] <ramza3> mrpoundsign, the default terminalwindow in ubuntu (terminal?)  and see http://factorcode.org
[12:58] <razzorz> ok i am in ubunto...yes
[12:58] <razzorz> sorry
[12:58] <I_slapped> ok, np
[12:58] <I_slapped> my bad
[12:58] <I_slapped> sudo apt-get install gparted
[12:58] <I_slapped> this is the opensource version of partiton magic
[12:58] <I_slapped> :-)
[12:58] <razzorz> naww its okay.. i was in kubuntu yesturday and they were pullin there hair when things were not workin
[12:58] <razzorz> lol
[12:59] <bruenig> front end of parted, not open source of PM
[12:59] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: seems that everything is in the apache2.conf and my httpd.conf is empty
[12:59] <I_slapped> bruenig, got a problem?
[12:59] <mrpoundsign> shdowhawk: oh, that's fine, whats in there?
[12:59] <thundr> Hi, I'm having a problem with jobs sent to the printer not printing.  Can anyone help?
[12:59] <razzorz> 40%
[12:59] <BigMac> Is there a program for ubuntu that will pick up on the usb web cam I inserted and allow me to record video in it?
[01:00] <Sonic_13> is it possible to remote desktop my ubuntu computer from my Windows XP computer?
[01:00] <bruenig> !webcam
[01:00] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:00] <slacker_nl> bigmac
[01:00] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: other then a few commented out lines... the DirectoryIndex has index.php in it
[01:00] <razzorz> so i was useing opensuse b4 and its obvious that this is WAY diffrent
[01:00] <Sonic_13> !remote desktop
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <dk_ii> !wine
[01:00] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:00] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: Ooohh... actually.. the commented out things are the AddTypes.  Do they need to be uncommented?
[01:00] <razzorz> Slaped: ok its done
[01:00] <Knight_Lord> Sonic_13 not exactly but you can use x11vnc
[01:00] <mrpoundsign> yeah.
[01:01] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: heh.  Alright.. trying that out
[01:01] <I_slapped> razzorz: yes, I've been using linux (redhat) mostly for along time now, and ubuntu for a desktop is the best I've used so far
[01:01] <Sonic_13> Knight_Lord: what is that
[01:01] <mrpoundsign> that basically tells the server ot process .php files in the php module.
[01:01] <razzorz> I love it..
[01:01] <spasticteapot> Mepis has some nice points - there's a menu that lets you get at all the configuration bits.
[01:01] <spasticteapot> However, it's still Dapper-based.
[01:01] <razzorz> ok so its done i assume... went back the first Cmd line
[01:01] <thundr> spasticteapot: I don't think I can msg you back, not registered yet
[01:01] <spasticteapot> Hence, all the new packages DON'T EFFING WORK!
[01:01] <ali_ameer> guys please help me ragarding installation of sagem DSL on ubuntu
[01:01] <spasticteapot> thundr: Well, that's silly.
[01:01] <enderxim> Not sure if this is the right place for help with this issue, but is there a way to use a bootable cd/dvd from an ext3 partitions .iso file?
[01:02] <Sonic_13> !x11vnc
[01:02] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[01:02] <razzorz> next??
[01:02] <razzorz> Open susie was ok.. but too glitchy...
[01:02] <I_slapped> ok, now run it from system tools I believe
[01:03] <razzorz> where?
[01:03] <wilo> hello guys
[01:03] <razzorz> ok
[01:03] <razzorz> sorry
[01:03] <razzorz> one sec
[01:03] <I_slapped> np
[01:03] <spasticteapot> Xubuntu Edgy has some glitches on the desktop, too.
[01:03] <bruenig> !hi | wilo
[01:03] <ubotu> wilo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:03] <razzorz> ok no
[01:03] <razzorz> where?
[01:03] <razzorz> lol
[01:03] <bruenig> xubuntu is great
[01:03] <spasticteapot> I'm upgrading to Feisty, it seems - from what I heard, it's pretty polished.
[01:03] <I_slapped> one sec
[01:03] <wilo> i was wondering, about installing avg A.V to ubuntu
[01:03] <wilo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136064&highlight=avg
[01:03] <bruenig> wilo, why
[01:03] <wilo> would this be helpful in installing, is it worth installing
[01:03] <shdowhawk> mrpoundsign: awesome.  I'm getting silly apache2 errors now.  But i'm assuming that that would be the problem.  So i'll give it a shot after dinner.  thanks a ton for the help =)
[01:03] <Slart> spasticteapot: not if you ask the people in #ubuntu+1.. they seem to think it's a bit unstable
[01:04] <wilo> bruenig: peace of mind, to know my system is safe
[01:04] <bruenig> wilo, if you are just using linux on your desktop, antivirus is pointless
[01:04] <wilo> its dual boot
[01:04] <wilo> i still use windows on this pc
[01:04] <Sonic_13> if i want to set up my ubuntu computer as a file server, is the best way to go FTP or Samba?
[01:04] <I_slapped> razzorz: click applications -> System Tools
[01:04] <mine> hola
[01:04] <tier-> ugh man im so close to getting my wireless nic working, after all the ndiswrapper and fwcutter nonsense it's detected and im on the home network, got my 192.168.0.101 ip... but it doesnt seem im getting hooked up with an external ip as i can't access any websites and such...
[01:05] <Slart> Sonic_13: depends on who's going to talk to it.. and how you're going to use it
[01:05] <spasticteapot> Slart: I had to use IWconfig for EVERYTHING under xubuntu.
[01:05] <spasticteapot> And I could'nt drag files on and off the desktop like I can in KDE.
[01:05] <spasticteapot> Feisty Xubuntu is using XFCE 4.4, which is essentially 4.3 minus the bugs.
[01:05] <mahuyar> wilo, There aren't really any virus out there for Linux yet.  but could happen soon though
[01:05] <bruenig> wilo, I don't know if it is able to scan windows partitions. If so then I guess you could do that. The windows viruses won't touch anything on your linux partition though if you are thinking that
[01:05] <razzorz> slap: nothing in systools
[01:05] <mrpoundsign> good night.
[01:05] <razzorz> besides what i had b4
[01:05] <Sonic_13> SLART: just a few home windows xp machines via LAN and over the internet
[01:05] <Slart> Sonic_13: I use samba on my linux server to share files with both windows boxes and linux boxes
[01:05] <razzorz> when you gave me that code .... did that install it?
[01:05] <razzorz> or just download it
[01:05] <Slart> Sonic_13: sounds like a job for samba
[01:05] <wilo> bruenig: yeah i was thinking that, so my linux partion is safe from viruses in windows?
[01:05] <Sonic_13> ok
[01:06] <bruenig> razzorz, just run gksu gparted from the terminal
[01:06] <Sonic_13> is samba difficult to set up?
[01:06] <I_slapped> razzorz: it installed it..
[01:06] <razzorz> ok
[01:06] <salah> is there any possibility to make ubuntu's look smaller? like smaller menu, file menus, panels, fonts etc
[01:06] <bruenig> wilo, yeah
[01:06] <|Jason8|> !ntfs
[01:06] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:06] <razzorz> .YAY
[01:06] <razzorz> got it
[01:06] <Sonic_13> !samba
[01:06] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:06] <Slart> Sonic_13: not very.. I think there is some kind of web-setup available.. SWAT or sometihng
[01:06] <wilo> bruenig: thankyou once again
[01:06] <Sonic_13> ok
[01:06] <Sonic_13> thanks Slart
[01:07] <razzorz> ya the drive is unallocated
[01:07] <Slart> Sonic_13: you're welcome
[01:07] <bruenig> razzorz, right click create and format it
[01:07] <Pollywog> isn't there a way to msg the bot without posting the reply in the channel?
[01:07] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: u there
[01:07] <bruenig> !msgthebot | Pollywog
[01:07] <ubotu> Pollywog: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:07] <razzorz> gots ya.. would it be primary or ??
[01:07] <Pollywog> ty
[01:07] <wilo> bruenig: is their a way to configure my wifi card to work on wlan?
[01:07] <bruenig> razzorz, primary is good
[01:08] <Sonic_13> Slart: can samba work with macs? i do have a macbook although it isn't at all necessary that it can access the server
[01:08] <razzorz> cool.. so where did 3 gigs go?
[01:08] <razzorz> lol
[01:08] <spasticteapot> wilo: I use iwconfig
[01:08] <Dreamxtreme> can any1 give me a hand with term commands im sick 2 death :( with them
[01:08] <bruenig> wilo, no wireless experience at all. Maybe when I get my laptop I will learn it.
[01:08] <Slart> Sonic_13: I have no idea.. probably..
[01:08] <adjioev> guys how do I config my firefox witn xhcat 2.6.6? Tried xchat faq, doesnt help.... i asked this question at xhcat channel but no response...
[01:08] <spasticteapot> Check the MAN pages - at least it works.
[01:08] <Sonic_13> ok
[01:08] <Sonic_13> thanks
[01:08] <wilo> bruenig: ok thankyou anyway
[01:08] <razzorz> slap: 10 gigs.. now down to 7
[01:08] <spasticteapot> Dreamxtreme: Go try Mac if you don't like the command line.
[01:08] <Sonic_13> <-- AFK -->
[01:08] <thundr> Hi, I'm having a problem with jobs sent to the printer not printing.  Can anyone help?
[01:08] <KaiHanari> when using ps aux | grep blah, how do i supress the return of the line showing the grep i just did?
[01:08] <Slart> Sonic_13: you can always check at samba.org they probably have some kind of FAQ
[01:09] <razzorz> well 7.83 gigs left...
[01:09] <crdlb> thundr, are you printing remotely to it?
[01:09] <wilo> spasticteapot: you use iwconfig?
[01:09] <Dreamxtreme> spasticteapot: its just every command i try to do f-prot tries to install
[01:09] <bruenig> razzorz, that is one of those differences between Gb and GB or something like that, my 200 gig drive is only 189 or something like that
[01:09] <thundr> crdlb: nope, just a regular local printer
[01:09] <gesus> hello --> how do i "start" samba.  i had it all working great then i restarted my computer and now it's not on.. ?
[01:09] <spasticteapot> wilo: Yep. Only thing that works under XFCE.
[01:09] <funkja> Is there a way to change your screen resolution from the command line
[01:09] <razzorz> ya... my 300 only gave me 280 somthing or other
[01:09] <spasticteapot> Dreamxtreme: Say wha?
[01:09] <thundr> crdlb: parallel port
[01:09] <wilo> spasticteapot:  XFCE?
[01:10] <Slart> gesus: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[01:10] <spasticteapot> wilo: Xubuntu's GUI.
[01:10] <|Jason8|> What's that one program for installing NVIDIA drivers for ubuntu?
[01:10] <crdlb> funkja, xrandr -o
[01:10] <gravemind> hi, I can't see my mac share from linux, but the computers can ping each other. what should I do to fix it? (have samba)
[01:10] <bruenig> |Jason8|, envy
[01:10] <KaiHanari> GenNMX,  /etc/init.d/samba start        as root
[01:10] <|Jason8|> bruenig: thanks :D
[01:10] <Dreamxtreme> spasticteapot: u know f-prot antivirus
[01:10] <GenNMX> KaiHanari: Wrong person
[01:10] <crdlb> thundr, does printing a test page work?
[01:10] <razzorz> slap: aka wiki...  how do i dissable this dam shift/bakspace loging off feature.... besides the keyboard shortcuts
[01:10] <Madmax-> bruenig the diffrent betwen GB och Gb is GigaByte and Gigabit
[01:10] <Pollywog> Jason8 you using kvirc?
[01:10] <thundr> crdlb: No, it doesn't.
[01:11] <KaiHanari> gesus, /etc/init.d/samba start        as root
[01:11] <Heroin> if i install a apache LAMP server how/which files would i need 2 edit to be able to get VirtualNameBasedHosting from apache?
[01:11] <KaiHanari> sorry GenNMX
[01:11] <bruenig> Madmax-, yeah but it isn't exactly that because then it would be a difference by a factor of 8 and it isn't
[01:11] <Madmax-> GiB and GB is the driffrent
[01:11] <Madmax-> depends how you count
[01:11] <wilo> spasticteapot: the wierd thing is, i have installed KWiFi Manager, Kwlan, SWScanner, Wifi Radar and Wireless Assistanrt
[01:11] <spasticteapot> wilo: The command string is (sudo) iwconfig (interface) essid (name of access point)
[01:11] <crdlb> thundr, what's the printer?
[01:11] <crdlb> model
[01:11] <Slart> bruenig: I think it's because the harddrive manufactures count 1000 bytes to a kb.. most sane people count 1024 bytes to a kb
[01:11] <bruenig> Slart, right that is it
[01:12] <thundr> crdlb: Canon MultipPASS C-5500
[01:12] <wilo> spasticteapot: sudo iwconfig (what is the interface?) essid NISSAN?
[01:12] <gesus> Slart, KaiHanari -- thanks :)
[01:12] <spasticteapot> wilo: For example, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid any
[01:12] <spasticteapot> That will set it to connect to anything in range.
[01:12] <spasticteapot> wilo: None of them worked for me at all - the command line works EVERY TIME.
[01:12] <wilo> ok
[01:12] <gravemind> I can't see my mac share from linux, but the computers can ping each other. what should I do to fix it? (have samba)
[01:12] <spasticteapot> Plus, you don't need to learn a new interface whenever you change GUIs.
[01:12] <Slart> bruenig: apologies if you weren't the one asking about it.. just saw your name last =)
[01:12] <spasticteapot> And it uses almost no RAM!
[01:12] <bruenig> Slart, no I was
[01:12] <Madmax-> its all explaind here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KiB
[01:13] <spasticteapot> wilo: The interface is the interface. It might be eth1, or wlan0.
[01:13] <Slart> gesus: you're welcome
[01:13] <spasticteapot> Just enter iwconfig and it will list the wireless interfaces.
[01:13] <thundr> crdlb: I'm using the recommended bjc600 driver
[01:14] <gravemind> can anyone help me with this samba issue, I can't see my mac share from linux, but the computers can ping each other. what should I do to fix it?
[01:14] <tier-> any idea what it means when my wireless card is now up, has signal, connects to my wireless router and has me on the local network.. i can ping machines on the network but can't access anything online ie, webpages, aim and such. dhcp issue?
[01:14] <crdlb> thundr, if you type: localhost:631 in a web browser, does the printer appear in working order?
[01:15] <ciscosurfer> any ideas on the current breakage on kernel 2.6.20-10-generic
[01:15] <crdlb> gravemind, have you set the workgroup on each computer to the same thing?
[01:15] <ciscosurfer> 2.6.20-9-generic works fine
[01:15] <Shaba1> hey guys and ladies
[01:15] <Slart> gravemind: have you tried using the command line version? smbclient
[01:15] <Slart> gravemind: it might give you some error message
[01:15] <razzorz> slap:
[01:15] <spasticteapot> gravemind: Be warned - SAMBA is not easy to work with.
[01:15] <razzorz> still no able to write to it..
[01:15] <spasticteapot> gravemind: Are they on the same workgroup?
[01:16] <thundr> crdlb: State: idle, accepting jobs, published.
[01:16] <gravemind> crdlb: I don't know how to set workgroup in linux
[01:16] <gravemind> slart: i've never tried smbclient
[01:16] <crdlb> gravemind, the traditional way is to look at /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:16] <spasticteapot> gravemind: You should be able to set the workgroup through network-manager.
[01:16] <Slart> gravemind: I think it's pretty painless to use.. and I think you'll get a bit more feedback about what went wrong
[01:16] <spasticteapot> It's in one of the tabs.
[01:16] <gravemind> spacsticteapot: at one time the computers could communicate but they can't any more
[01:17] <terlmann> need some elp here, sound is busted
[01:17] <terlmann> . config : alsa/card is detected/custom&patched kernel/gnome/ ubuntu 5.10 :restarted and sound no longer works. also in the kernel compile I enabled the dummy midi card.
[01:17] <spasticteapot> gravemind: Bummer.
[01:17] <spasticteapot> gravemind: I'm no Samba expert - I just barely got a fileserver up.
[01:17] <crdlb> gravemind, both the mac and ubuntu are using samba, so it should work pretty well
[01:17] <cables> Can I get a list of a package's dependencies from the terminal?
[01:17] <gravemind> spacsticteapot: nm gives me options about wireless networks but I don't see workgroup anywhere, I'll have to look at smb.conf as crdlb suggested
[01:18] <bruenig> cables, apt-cache show package | grep Depends
[01:18] <cables> bruenig, thanks
[01:18] <Slart> cables: probably.. there are all kinds of parameters and options for apt-cache.. I don't know them by heart though.. try apt-cache --help
[01:18] <darweth> Does anyone know if Feisty will stop using a dumb altered version of Firefox and just use the Mozilla version?
[01:18] <crdlb> thundr, sorry I don't know why it isn't working
[01:18] <Pollywog> can macs use FISH?
[01:18] <cables> bruenig, I tried almost the same thing with Aptitude, but it has linebreaks so it didn't work.
[01:18] <bruenig> darweth, dumb...
[01:18] <cables> darweth, Edgy uses the Mozilla version, with the Mozilla logo and everything...
[01:18] <Shaba1> hello anyone here?
[01:18] <bruenig> cables yet another reason apt-get > aptitude
[01:18] <Shaba1> and at the keys
[01:18] <cables> bruenig, :)
[01:19] <darweth> bruenig: yes.  the preferences in Ubuntu's altered version are messed up.  Especially managing 'file types.'
[01:19] <Sonic_13> lots of people are here
[01:19] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, I just downloaded Envy, gdebi says it depends on a module-assistant.  That's not in the package manager.  Where do I get it?
[01:19] <gravemind> crdlb, Slart, workgroup is set correctly, should I just run smbclient?
[01:19] <darweth> I set .torrent files accidentally to "automatically save to desktop everytime" and could not edit it in managing file types.
[01:19] <Pollywog> Jason apt-get install module-assistant
[01:19] <darweth> I used aislyu's script to install the Mozilla version on top of it and it worked fine.
[01:19] <|Jason8|> Pollywog, thanks
[01:19] <darweth> So something is wrong.
[01:19] <Slart> gravemind: yes, you can try running it.. it won't bite =)
[01:20] <Shaba1> helo
[01:20] <gravemind> Slart: lots of options I don't understand
[01:20] <bruenig> darweth, doesn't that script replace your .mozilla directory
[01:20] <darweth> No.
[01:20] <thundr> crdlb: if it helps, under the completed jobs it shows what I printed but the pages are listed as unknown
[01:21] <darweth> It backed up every preference.
[01:21] <gravemind> Slart: all I know for sure is the other comp's IP
[01:21] <|Jason8|> Pollywog: I tried what you said and got this error: E: Package module-assistant has no installation candidate
[01:21] <darweth> And all settings.
[01:21] <Slart> gravemind: try smbclient -L 192.160.0.1 ... change the ip-number to the one of the mac computer
[01:21] <cables> glipper is cool, but I can't stand the thought of more things in my notification area.
[01:21] <gravemind> Slart: thanks
[01:21] <bruenig> darweth, wow how impressive that must have been for that script "mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.backup"
[01:21] <Slart> gravemind: it should print out a list of shared directories and such
[01:21] <gravemind> Slart: asks for password...
[01:21] <gravemind> Slart: is that the sudo password or something else on mac?
[01:22] <Slart> gravemind: try just "enter"
[01:22] <gravemind> Slart: worked
[01:22] <bruenig> darweth, the ubuntu firefox can manage filetypes perfectly, at least mine can
[01:22] <Sonic_13> !samba
[01:22] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:22] <Slart> gravemind: you got the list of shares, printers etc?
[01:22] <gravemind> Slart: it lists servers
[01:22] <cables> How can I use grep to replace something with something else?
[01:22] <cafuego_> cables: Not. Use sed.
[01:22] <Knight_Lord> cables usually people use sed or perl
[01:22] <cables> cafuego, how?
[01:22] <cafuego_> sed -i s?string1/string2/" file
[01:23] <cables> Knight_Lord, I know some perl, but I just want to make a command for this
[01:23] <cafuego_> sed -i "s/string1/string2/" file
[01:23] <cables> cafuego, thanks
[01:23] <bruenig> darweth, what are the changes that ubuntu does to firefox
[01:23] <Knight_Lord> cables there is perl -e
[01:23] <Slart> gravemind: it lists servers? .. not services?
[01:23] <cafuego_> But sed is smaller and thus faster (on small batches) than perl.
[01:23] <bruenig> s/does/makes/
[01:23] <cables> Knight_Lord, I know, but I don't really want to use that... sed seems faster
[01:23] <gravemind> slart: right, just a sec pastebinning
[01:23] <Slart> gravemind: ok
[01:23] <razzorz> how do i mount my usb drive...
[01:23] <darweth> bruenig: I cannot explain why it wouldn't work.  It is a fresh install of Ubuntu.
[01:24] <crdlb> razzorz, it should JustWork(tm)
[01:24] <gravemind> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10418/ slart
[01:24] <razzorz> ya but i unmounted it in gksu gparted
[01:24] <bruenig> darweth, well perhaps you should see if somebody else had the same problem before making such a generalized statement
[01:24] <razzorz> now i cant see it
[01:24] <orwen> hi, someone can help me, grub make me crazy
[01:24] <orwen> i make a mistake in a grub command to boot an alternative os (and i make a mistake with an 'hide (hd0,0)' and i think that i hide the partition who contain /boot)
[01:24] <orwen> so, when i make a "find /boot/grub/stage1" in the grub prompt with the live cd, i had a : File not found
[01:25] <bruenig> razzorz, sudo mount /dev/sda /media/usbdrive
[01:25] <crdlb> gravemind, looks fine afaict
[01:25] <razzorz> mount: special device /dev/sda does not exist
[01:25] <cables> Sed doesn't want to take a pipe from another command, and when I remove -i, it's not replacing.
[01:25] <bruenig> razzorz, sudo fdisk -l
[01:25] <crdlb> gravemind, and the mac's workgroup is "workgroup" ?
[01:25] <Slart> gravemind: hmm.. never seen it list servers.. probably something I have disabled.. well .. this at least tells you that the computers can see each other and that you can access shared directories
[01:25] <razzorz> dont see it there
[01:25] <crdlb> cables, it should
[01:25] <bruenig> cables, what are you trying to do
[01:25] <razzorz> my other 2 i do
[01:25] <Shaba1> ok is there a introductory guide for windows people to linux commands online anyways
[01:25] <gravemind> crdlb: "WORKGROUP"
[01:25] <cables> crdlb, are there any special characters I should be escaping?
[01:26] <bruenig> razzorz, try plugging it in, or replugging it in
[01:26] <razzorz> i did
[01:26] <Shaba1> I mean I am not a total computer newbie
[01:26] <Shaba1> actually a systems admin
[01:26] <Shaba1> but new to the linux world
[01:26] <bruenig> !bash | Shaba1
[01:26] <ubotu> Shaba1: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:26] <cables> bruenig, I don't want to tell you, because then you'd give me a command to do it for me, or a way to do it way more efficiently, and I'd feel less awesome :(
[01:26] <bruenig> k
[01:26] <cables> bruenig, I want to replace commas with newlines
[01:26] <bruenig> I like sed a lot, I use it even when I shouldn't
[01:26] <gravemind> slart: crdlb: so is there something I'm missing?
[01:26] <Slart> gravemind: just for comparison.. here is mine.. I have a few directories shared http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10421/
[01:27] <razzorz> damn..
[01:27] <razzorz> ok windows here come.. brb
[01:27] <crdlb> cables, something like "ps ax|grep gnome|sed -e 's/gnome/kde/g'" works for me
[01:27] <cables> crdlb, ps ax?
[01:28] <cafuego_> cables: tr ',' '\n' < oldfile > newfile
[01:28] <Slart> gravemind: so.. there are shared folders on the mac? are you using some kind of password/allowed users thingy?
[01:28] <cables> crdlb, is "," a special character I should be escaping?
[01:28] <cables> crdlb, how do I escape stuff in sed?
[01:28] <cafuego_> cables: \
[01:28] <crdlb> cables, "," is not special
[01:28] <cafuego_> cables: but a comma doesn't need to be escaped.
[01:28] <cables> cafuego_, figures :)
[01:28] <cafuego_> the enwline otoh
[01:28] <cables> cafuego_, that's weird...
[01:29] <netdur> just to make sure, I replaced "edgy" with "feisty" and use synaptic using to (reload then) upgrade... this is fine upgrade method?
[01:29] <cables> cafuego_, newline = same as perl?
[01:29] <cables> cafuego_, \n?
[01:29] <cafuego_> cables: what is it in perl?
[01:29] <Kooka> cya all and good night :)
[01:29] <cafuego_> cables: yah
[01:29] <cables> k
[01:29] <Toma-> is there a way to make firefox start faster?
[01:29] <odix> /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext3 default 0 0
[01:30] <odix> whats wrong with that, i get unrecognized option default
[01:31] <cables> cafuego_, it's only substituting the first ",", how can I get it to do all of them?
[01:31] <odix> then when i mount it manually and try and move files in there i get permission denied
[01:31] <cafuego_> cables: oh sorry, append a g
[01:31] <bruenig> cables, 's/,/\n/g'
[01:31] <cafuego_> cables: that's a feature, not a bug :-)
[01:31] <gravemind> Slart: crdlb : actually I don't know how to view or change the mac's workgroup. all I know is in system preferences, "Windows Sharing" is enabled, and the mac and the windows computers can share things very well
[01:31] <crdlb> gravemind, well then what is the windows comp's workgroup?
[01:32] <cables> cafuego_, bruenig, are these regexps the same as in Perl? I'm a tiny bit familiar with those...
[01:32] <cheeseboy> how do i make something start at boot?
[01:32] <crdlb> gravemind, although I don't think that's it since smbclient sees it
[01:33] <gravemind> crdlb: the windows computer workgroup is WORKGROUP
[01:33] <Slart> gravemind: hmm.. then it should work with the ubuntu box too... and you just saw that they could communicate using samba... we just didn't see any shared folders.. but it might be some kind of setting we're forgetting.. I'll take a bet on the workgroup tihngy..
[01:33] <cables> cafuego_, the g at the end means "greedy", right?
[01:33] <gravemind> crdlb: they're actually the same box, just a dual boot
[01:33] <bruenig> cables, I always interpreted it as global
[01:33] <Toma-> cheeseboy: something commandline orientated or gui orientated?
[01:33] <cafuego_> global
[01:33] <cables> bruenig, ah. Something in Perl means greedy...
[01:33] <gravemind> slart, crdlb, actually they're not showing the share I'm looking for
[01:34] <cheeseboy> toma- i want to start gaim and mythbackend
[01:34] <crdlb> cables, you can put a number instead of g to replace a specific instance btw
[01:34] <gravemind> slart, crdlb, they're showing the hidden IPC$ and ADMIN$ shares
[01:34] <bruenig> g for greedy makes sense too, doesn't really matter what the original motivation behind it was
[01:34] <Slart> gravemind: hmm.. I'll look some more at what smbclient can do.. brb
[01:34] <AL2> can anyone send me to a visualbasic coding channel?
[01:34] <gravemind> slart, crdlib, I'm looking for a user share
[01:34] <AL2> can't find anywhere to go
[01:34] <AL2> idk how to compile VB
[01:35] <Toma-> cheeseboy: well id say to put goth commands in your Sessions startup options... System>Admin>Sessions>Startup Programs
[01:35] <Toma-> *both
[01:35] <AL2> anyone?
[01:35] <Toma-> visualbasic...in linux...?
[01:36] <cables> bruenig or cafuego_, can I pm one of you for some sed help?
[01:36] <cheeseboy> toma- start up programs inst an option
[01:36] <odix> its under preferences ;p
[01:36] <bruenig> !pm
[01:36] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[01:36] <bruenig> cables, are all the lines indented a space?
[01:36] <cables> bruenig, I just don't want to clutter the channel.
[01:36] <gravemind> slart, cdrlb, someone in ##linux told me to get smb4k, which is a kde gui thinggy
[01:36] <kristallpirat> howto change standard xsession manager?
[01:36] <cables> bruenig, it's working, but I want to know something else.
[01:36] <Toma-> cheeseboy: its somewhere in sessions dialog
[01:36] <odix> cheeseboy under preferences>Sessions
[01:36] <gravemind> slart, cdrlb, it shows the folder I want to access, but won't let me access it
[01:36] <jrib> kristallpirat: install the one you want
[01:37] <kristallpirat> jrib
[01:37] <kristallpirat> I have
[01:37] <gravemind> slart, cdrlib, I had to enable "Show hidden shares" though
[01:37] <kristallpirat> but startx still starts gnome
[01:37] <cables> bruenig, I'm basically writing a command to list all the dependencies of a certain package and whether or not they're installed.
[01:37] <gravemind> Anonymous login successful [ENTER]  9926: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name) [ENTER]  SMB connection failed
[01:38] <cables> bruenig, I've got "apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | grep Depends | sed "s/, /\n/g" | sed "s/Depends: //" | less | xargs aptitude show | grep State" which works, but doesn't give the package name first.
[01:38] <bruenig> cables, oh from the output of that apt-cache show
[01:38] <cables> bruenig, no idea what the less is doing in there
[01:38] <cables> bruenig, that was from an early testing phase :)
[01:38] <jrib> kristallpirat: oh I thought you meant like gdm, kdm, etc.  I think in your case, you can just use ~/.xinitrc
[01:39] <bruenig> aptitude show what
[01:39] <garfield9> hey guys....I need Wifi help and I'm sure someone here will be able to help me with my prob really easily
[01:39] <bruenig> oh stdout
[01:39] <cables> bruenig, you familiar with xargs? It just piles the input on as arguments to a command
[01:39] <bruenig> yeah I know
[01:39] <bruenig> stupid me
[01:39] <cables> bruenig, so how can I have it say package: state: installed
[01:40] <bruenig> I would probably have scripted it instead of piping it fifteen times
[01:40] <jrib> kristallpirat: so if you wanted kde, you would do 'exec startkde' in your .xinitrc
[01:40] <cables> bruenig, i could just write a perl script, but I want to get awesomer at the commandline.
[01:40] <cables> bruenig, I think I'll go write a script :)
[01:40] <bruenig> cables, bash script
[01:40] <kristallpirat> no I want xfce
[01:40] <cables> bruenig, don't know how to do that, can you give me a link to a good guide?
[01:40] <crdlb> cables, I agree, go for verbosity
[01:40] <cafuego_> cables: s/grep State/egrep "Package|State"/
[01:40] <Shaba1> Ok anyone here ever use mirc on windowns
[01:41] <Shaba1> do they make something likethat for linux
[01:41] <gouki> Shaba1: Yes, I have
[01:41] <Shaba1> with the graphical interface I mean
[01:41] <cables> cafuego_, where does that fit in?
[01:41] <cables> Shaba1, I use Xchat
[01:41] <crdlb> cables, advanced bash scripting guide ?
[01:41] <cafuego_> cables: at the end
[01:41] <soundray> cables: the topic of #bash has good links. Also search for ABS Advanced Bash Scripting
[01:41] <cafuego_> cables: Of course, you completely miss out on depends pulled in by the dependant packages
[01:41] <gouki> Shaba1: You can IRSSI, which is part of your installation, or, like cables said, XChat, which you can get via aptitude
[01:41] <cafuego_> cables: You need to recursively scan down all dependancy trees
[01:42] <cables> cafuego_, noooo!
[01:42] <kristallpirat> jrib so give the path to xfce or exec <something>?
[01:42] <cables> cafuego_, thanks a lot for saving that 'till the end :)
[01:42] <bruenig> cables apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | grep Depends | sed "s/, /\n/g" | sed "s/Depends: //" | lxargs aptitude show | grep -e Package -e State
[01:42] <garfield9> okay....so I was configuring my Wifi with ndiswrapper but I messed up and told it to use the wrong drivers....how do I go backwards to fix the problem?
[01:42] <bruenig> cables, accidentally have lxargs, change that to xargs
[01:42] <jrib> kristallpirat: ls /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc*
[01:43] <cables> bruenig, just noticed that :)
[01:43] <bruenig> cables, that is pretty cool actually
[01:43] <gravemind> I'm struggling with samba, somebody help me access my shares
[01:43] <clarklinux> hi -- my xubuntu installation is hung up, not sure what to do
[01:43] <Slart> gravemind: ok.. I've found that you can use "smbclient -L -W workgroupname 192.168.0.1" to set the workgroup to soemthing special.. did you find out the workgroup name of the windows box that could access the files?
[01:43] <gouki> clarklinux: Where did it stop?
[01:43] <cables> bruenig, thanks :) I've really got to learn regexps better, they're so damn useful
[01:43] <bruenig> cables, some mess ups with Package occasionally but bearable
[01:44] <Factory> Hey guys, does  a program exist that'll play a live screencast as a webcam?
[01:44] <gravemind> Slart: the workgroup is correct, all the computers use WORKGROUP as the name
[01:44] <bruenig> cables or I guess you could put grep -e Package: instead of Package
[01:44] <Slart> gravemind: and you still don't see the shared folder?
[01:44] <cables> bruenig, i guess
[01:44] <jrib> kristallpirat: looks like you want 'exec xfwm'
[01:44] <gravemind> slart: not with the command you showed me
[01:44] <clarklinux> gouki: at the select and install software step...it's been "configuring xserver-xorg" at 6% for about 4 hours
[01:45] <clarklinux> gouki: it's already done the os installation and erased the previous OS and everything
[01:45] <Psygrass> hi... any one can help me please regarding sagem DSL installation on ubuntu?
[01:45] <cables> bruenig, I'm so going to learn Bash scripting now  :)
[01:45] <clarklinux> gouki: by the way, I'm installing it on a new world g3 powerbook (PPC)
[01:45] <kristallpirat> jrib I'll try that brb
[01:45] <Factory> clarklinux, sounds like it's frozen to me
[01:45] <gabri3L> how do I shut down xwindows in ubuntu?
[01:45] <gravemind> Slart: my output looks like yours, except with only two shares where there are more
[01:45] <opla> hello
[01:45] <gravemind> slart: more shares that I can't see
[01:45] <jrib> gabri3L: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:45] <razzorz> well Crap
[01:45] <gabri3L> ty
[01:45] <cables> bruenig, next step, cross-reference with ubuntu-desktop and list only the ones that are unique to kubuntu... time to go do that, bye
[01:45] <clarklinux> factory: what should I do? is it safe to turn off the power at this point? can i resume?
[01:46] <gouki> clarklinux: I understand. But, as you may have noticed, it shouldn't take that long. Have you tried burning the .ISO to a new CD? Checking MD5 hash of the .ISO would also be a good idea. Just to make sure you have everything good for your installation
[01:46] <Factory> clarklinux,  I highly doubt you can resume. Iif I were you I would reboot it and try reinstalling. If it happens again, you've got yourself a bad cd (probably)
[01:46] <Slart> gravemind: well.. then I'm out of ideas.. have you tried accessing them directly in nautlius? type "smb://192.168.0.1/sharename" in the address bar?
[01:46] <clarklinux> gouki: the md5hash was fine
[01:46] <clarklinux> alright
[01:46] <clarklinux> i'll try that
[01:46] <clarklinux> thank you both
[01:46] <gravemind> slart: yeah they give me an empty folder
[01:46] <razzorz> formated my usb drive... to ext3 and i still cant see it... when i type in razzorz@razzorz-desktop:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[01:46] <opla> does anybody can helo me about the URI for mms, the aims is to watch stuff on ubuntu without windows madia palyer
[01:46] <gouki> clarklinux: Yeah, then trying again is your best bet.
[01:47] <opla> opla opla
[01:47] <gouki> clarklinux: No problem! (=
[01:47] <NewbieUser00001> does ubuntu have any apps for building custom live cd's?
[01:47] <Roachclit> Hey does anyone truly know how to set up a Ubuntu wireless network
[01:47] <Slart> gravemind: most weird.. I'm starting to think that the mac version of samba (or whatever they are using) is doing sometihng strange
[01:47] <razzorz> only shows my two other drives.. since i unmounted it
[01:47] <Roachclit> and I have read the wireless docs
[01:47] <gravemind> Slart: or it says "can't display all the contents of the folder"
[01:48] <gouki> Roachclit: You mean connect your computer who runs Ubuntu to a wAP?
[01:48] <wheels_> How do I get to my repos?
[01:48] <Slart> gravemind: ah.. it doesn't say on the next line that the share coulnd't be found?
[01:48] <jrib> !sources | wheels_
[01:48] <gravemind> slart: could be, except I don't have anything to test whether or not this computer's samba is working correctly
[01:48] <ubotu> wheels_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:48] <gravemind> Slart: that was all the dialogue box said
[01:48] <gabri3L> jrib: that appearently turned Xwindows off but I dont see the console
[01:49] <jrib> gabri3L: where are you now?
[01:49] <gravemind> Slart: my ubuntu box could never access the mac shares, but the mac used to be able to get at the linux shares
[01:49] <gravemind> Slart: now it complains that the alias is broken
[01:49] <gabri3L> I don't know.. i run unbutu using vmware workstation and it seems it crashed after I shut xwindows down
[01:49] <Slart> gravemind: because when I try to access a share I know doesn't exist I get a dialog box saying "The folder contents could not be displayed" and on the next line "sharename couldn't be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted"
[01:49] <gabri3L> I can't access the console
[01:50] <Roachclit> Okay I can't get my PCMCIA Linksys wireless card to get a signal
[01:50] <gravemind> slart: pretty sure it's not the case. I had this problem before, and it worked in windows
[01:50] <soundray> gabri3L: can you ssh into it?
[01:50] <Slart> gravemind: and you use forward slash when typing in the address ?
[01:50] <gabri3L> no i can't
[01:51] <gabri3L> is it possible to boot unbutu desktop without xwindows ?
[01:51] <gravemind> smb://192.168.1.1/admins-imac-g5
[01:51] <jesusphreak> I am trying to edit my sources.list file and it will only open as read-only...how can I make changes to it?
[01:51] <Factory> jesusphreak, inclue sudo
[01:51] <jrib> gabri3L: system > administration > services   turn off the graphical login
[01:51] <wilco991> I don't thnk so
[01:51] <wilco991> X11 is what runs gnome
[01:51] <wilco991> which is the desktop
[01:51] <gabri3L> ok ty
[01:51] <Slart> gravemind: well.. I'm all out of ideas then... perhaps ask the people in #samba , they might have some ideas
[01:51] <Factory> jesusphreak, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:51] <gravemind> whoa, didn't know they existed
[01:51] <gravemind> cool, I'll go there
[01:51] <soundray> gabri3L: yes, you can boot to console mode -- e.g. recovery mode
[01:52] <jesusphreak> thanks factory
[01:52] <wilco991> right, but I think he wanted a desktop
[01:52] <wilco991> with a menu, etc.
[01:52] <Factory> np jesusphreak =)
[01:52] <wilco991> not a CLI
[01:52] <Slart> gravemind: good luck.. hope you find a solution
[01:52] <gabri3L> o
[01:52] <gravemind> slart: thanks
[01:52] <Roachclit> gouki, I have a Wireless - G Notebook Adapter, Model #:  WPC54G ver. 3
[01:53] <wilco991> Roach, so is it not being recognized in ubuntu
[01:53] <Factory> Roachclit,  by any chance did you try this one yet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=378179
[01:53] <Roachclit> well not sure, I mean, the network detects the device and is assigning it a driver
[01:53] <Roachclit> but it won't pick up a signal
[01:54] <wilco991> EVERYONE, I would just like to announce that today is 3.14, PI DAY!
[01:54] <snerfu> what package do I need for xine to support flac so I can play flac files in amarok?
[01:54] <gravemind> wilco, not until at least 2016
[01:54] <soundray> wilco991: not anymore -- UTC counts
[01:54] <cyphase> how do i check directory size on the command line?
[01:54] <Slart> I'll wait until 22/7 =)
[01:54] <cables> cyphase, du
[01:54] <soundray> cyphase: du
[01:54] <Hammwell> whats the easiest way to get sshd installed so i can go in from my other pc?
[01:54] <wilco991> Roachclit, I had exactly the the same problem with my wireless card, it had a broadcom chipset
[01:55] <Hammwell> or is it just not running maybe
[01:55] <cyphase> du gives a list of file in the directory as well
[01:55] <soundray> Hammwell: 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[01:55] <slacker_nl> Hammwell: aptitude install openssh-server ;)
[01:55] <Slart> Hammwell: sudo apt-get install ssh
[01:55] <cables> cyphase, actually du -s
[01:55] <wilco991> uninstall the drivers the can with ubuntu fori t
[01:55] <cyphase> files*
[01:55] <shiv_j> when I use openoffice immpress I am not able to scroll the slides using the arrows. Is there a fix?
[01:55] <wilco991> and use ndiswrapper
[01:55] <wilco991> mine works great now
[01:55] <cyphase> tanks
[01:55] <cyphase> thanks*
[01:55] <slacker_nl> cables: du -s . ;)
[01:55] <slacker_nl> at least for the current dir
[01:55] <cables> slacker_nl, I just told him that :)
[01:55] <Slart> !ssh
[01:55] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:55] <trixkal> servers
[01:55] <Hammwell> thanks guys!
[01:56] <Psygrass> please guys answer me..... i have been trying to get some help regarding sagem dsl driver installation..... no one is answering me
[01:56] <Slart> Hammwell: you'll probably have to do some configuring after you install it.. I don't remember
[01:56] <Slart> Hammwell: but it shouldn't be to hard
[01:56] <Hammwell> cool, if i have trouble ... well ;)
[01:56] <soundray> Psygrass: it's not because people are mean, it's probably because we don't know
[01:57] <cables> !patience | PsychoBud
[01:57] <ubotu> PsychoBud: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:57] <cables> damn
[01:57] <variant> Psygrass: if you state what you have done and what is stopping you from continueing then we can try and help you. are you following a tutorial?
[01:57] <cables> PsychoBud, sorry :)
[01:57] <Slart> Hammwell: we'll be here all night =)
[01:57] <Psygrass> thanx for answering
[01:57] <wilco991>  is there any way to get gnome to look and behave like Vista Aero without using Beryl or Compiz?
[01:57] <crdlb> Psygrass, it's an internal dsl modem?
[01:57] <wilco991> as far as the transparency
[01:57] <cables> wilco991, look, not behave.
[01:57] <dkbg> to uninstall a program which hasn't been installed with a deb, you just delete all of the files it created correct?
[01:57] <wilco991> and the look of the windows
[01:57] <soundray> Psygrass: it would also help if you said what that device actually is
[01:57] <cables> wilco991, not for transparency.
[01:57] <Slart> wilco991: none that I've heard of
[01:57] <variant> wilco991: yes, without the aero
[01:57] <Psygrass> no it is USB DSL modem
[01:57] <crdlb> Psygrass, does it have ethernet?
[01:57] <cables> Psygrass, no Ethernet port on that?
[01:57] <razzorz> ok.. why when i unmounted my usb drive.. now i can't see any of them
[01:57] <Psygrass> no it is a not an ethernet
[01:58] <wilco991> Beryl hates my integrated graphics, Compiz isn't much better, wanted the look without the work
[01:58] <dkbg> i.e. use locate <app identifying string> and delete the files?
[01:58] <wilco991> how should I set up that look?
[01:58] <variant> wilco991: what chip is it?
[01:58] <crdlb> Psygrass, really? that's terrible
[01:58] <variant> Psygrass: usb dsl modem?
[01:58] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, how do I get the userlist to show up in xchat-gnome?
[01:58] <wilco991> 82852/82855 GM/GME
[01:58] <Slart> wilco991: I'm thinking you're trying to do the impossible here.. if you want the bling bling you'll have to go beryl/compiz at the moment..
[01:58] <soundray> dkbg: yes, and if you're lucky, it won't leave any remnants, such as dangling symlinks
[01:58] <wilco991> by Intel
[01:58] <Psygrass> yes it is USB DSL modem
[01:58] <whaley_> |Jason8|: click on the users icon in the lower left
[01:59] <variant> Psygrass: what make/model
[01:59] <SirOSOriS> wilco991, it cant be done easily yet
[01:59] <SirOSOriS> beryl is the only real option atm
[01:59] <Factory> Anyone know if there's a nice little linux program that'll display a screencast as a webcam session? =)
[01:59] <|Jason8|> oh, thanks whaley_
[01:59] <cables> |Jason8|, use xchat :) I think it's in one of the menus, but it doesn't show permanently.
[01:59] <wilco991> I tried beryl and it worked for some time
[01:59] <variant> wilco991: beryl + intel has generaly good support
[01:59] <Psygrass> it is Sagem fast 800
[01:59] <variant> wilco991: what happened?
[01:59] <wilco991> but then it started not showing the title bar on top of windows
[01:59] <wilco991> which made it unusable
[01:59] <`Lucas> When I boot from the CD it says "Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" || What do I need to do in order to fix that?
[01:59] <cables> wilco991, i don't think that has to do with the chipset... that's just Beryl being Alpha.
[02:00] <Slart> wilco991: beryl is not really finished.. it's still being developed... expect a bug or two.. but it'll get better
[02:00] <variant> Psygrass: check this tutorial: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=202072
[02:00] <cafuego_> windows vista is not really finished.. it's still being developed... expect a bug or two.. but it'll get bette
[02:00] <wilco991> well, I think it's the chipset, because it throws an error when I boot it via a terminal, yet it still works so I didn't think anything of it
[02:00] <wilco991> let me look up the error, one sec
[02:00] <variant> wilco991: what error exactly?
[02:00] <Psygrass> thanx guys....
[02:01] <|Jason8|> cafuego, at least the linux community warns that the product isn't finished!  Vista's been released as "finished" software!
[02:01] <dkbg> soundray: okay, thanks. Isn't there a way to find all the symlinks pointing to a specific file/folder or something
[02:01] <SirOSOriS> has anyone seen the screenshots for 'ubuntu ultimate gamers edition'?
[02:01] <variant> SirOSOriS: lol
[02:01] <SirOSOriS> are they any good?
[02:01] <cables> !offtopic | SirOSOriS
[02:01] <ubotu> SirOSOriS: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:01] <cables> SirOSOriS, that's not a supported variant of Ubuntu.
[02:01] <soundray> dkbg: yes, you can craft a search with find
[02:01] <Slart> SirOSOriS: I didn't even know it existed.. got any links?
[02:02] <snerfu> what package do I need for xine to support flac so I can play flac files in amarok?
[02:02] <cables> !flac | snerfu
[02:02] <ubotu> snerfu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <snerfu> Thanks cables
[02:02] <Roachclit> guys i have some questions on just the networking for example I use Charter Communications that doesn't have a password
[02:02] <Roachclit> do I need to put in anything for a Network Name?
[02:02] <Roachclit> I am running a private neetwork on my home
[02:02] <Roachclit> the 192.168.0.1 gateway
[02:03] <Roachclit> so for the NN do I put in 192.168.0.0
[02:03] <crdlb> Roachclit, you don't need any config if its dhcp
[02:03] <variant> wilco991: i'm guessing it was: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[02:03] <Roachclit> well my router is not set up for dhcp
[02:03] <wilco991> yeah
[02:03] <variant> wilco991: you can disregard that warning
[02:03] <`Lucas> Hey can anyone help me, when I boot from the CD it says "Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" || What do I need to do in order to fix that?
[02:03] <wilco991> that was it
[02:03] <soundray> snerfu: have you got the flac package installed?
[02:03] <eavawter> If anyone knows anything about belkin routers and NAT .. would you pm me please
[02:03] <wilco991> seen here:  http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=235199
[02:03] <Roachclit> and my wireless addapter is is just receiving
[02:03] <variant> `Lucas: what kind of computer is it?
[02:04] <wilco991> when I boot beryl, should I boot beryl or beryl-manager and should I use sudo for either?
[02:04] <soundray> `Lucas: that's a fairly generic error. What happens before that?
[02:04] <variant> wilco991: start beryl with beryl-manager
[02:04] <wilco991> ok, not just "beryl"
[02:04] <`Lucas> Well, I had my friend format my harrdrive and he gave me disks to install
[02:04] <variant> wilco991: and not as root, you can select it from the menu. also add it to the session manager under startup programs
[02:04] <crdlb> Roachclit, if it's wireless you'll need to specify the ESSID, and if you don't have dhcp (did you turn it off?) you'll have to manually give it an ip
[02:04] <variant> wilco991: yeah, beryl-manager
[02:04] <gravemind> how do I use "smbpasswd" to add a user?
[02:04] <wilco991> oh by the way, if I accidently removed the tray icon, how would one restore it?
[02:04] <jexdawg> how do i make my menu bar look like this: http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=45829&file1=45829-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Wii-Black ? basically, how do i edit it at all, haha
[02:04] <wilco991> for beryl I mean
[02:04] <`Lucas> And when I put the disk in and boot, I see the menu and then when i press enter it goes to the Kernel Panic.
[02:05] <Roachclit> crddlb, ususally the Network name is the first ip in the block
[02:05] <variant> gravemind: smbpasswd username
[02:05] <gravemind> variant: cool. sudo?
[02:05] <soundray> `Lucas: there must be some messages before the error
[02:05] <variant> gravemind: yep
[02:05] <SirOSOriS> `Lucas, r u installing a 64 bit distro?
[02:05] <`Lucas> Let me boot it up and look.
[02:05] <wilco991> so the general consensus here is that beryl is better than compiz?
[02:05] <`Lucas> Yes
[02:05] <variant> gravemind: sorry, you will have to create the user first  with useradd username
[02:05] <SirOSOriS> i had same problem
[02:05] <jrib> jexdawg: probably using that theme that that is a rpeview for
[02:05] <`Lucas> Its a Gateway btw.
[02:06] <variant> wilco991: mostly
[02:06] <variant> `Lucas: did you try starting hte cd in safe mode?
[02:06] <jexdawg> jrib - i don't want to use someone elses theme though. i just want to edit it so that the layout is like that (not the color scheme or anything)
[02:06] <`Lucas> Safe mode?
[02:06] <SirOSOriS> what about checking it for errors first `Lucas ?
[02:06] <|Jason8|> What will I all need from here( http://seerofsouls.com/dists/dapper/contrib/binary-i386/ ) to install X-chat successfully under Edgy?
[02:07] <wilco991> Variant, no one replied to my last question, how do you restore the beryl icon on the tray, i removed it from the panel accidently and I doens't repear after a reboot and it's not in the "add to panel" applet
[02:07] <snerfu> Ah I had to restart amarok after i installed the xine extras codecs.
[02:07] <variant> `Lucas: yeah, i assume it has something lik etha. been a _long_ time since i last booted ubuntu cd
[02:07] <jrib> jexdawg: that's just "Main Menu" instead of "Menu Bar" applet
[02:07] <wilco991> *reappear
[02:07] <variant> wilco991: run beryl-manager from the menu
[02:07] <`Lucas> How do I boot in safe mode. Do note that there isn't anything on the harddrive
[02:07] <Slart> wilco991: it's in the applications, system menu..
[02:07] <variant> wilco991: and add it to session as i explained
[02:07] <soundray> |Jason8|: nothing, you can just install it from the official repositories
[02:07] <`Lucas> No other OS or anything like that.
[02:08] <blackest> anyone understand how the filesystem works with ubuntu with more than one harddrive
[02:08] <soundray> blackest: you need to describe your problem if you want help
[02:08] <jexdawg> jrib - i love you
[02:08] <wilco991>  again, I have done those things, Beryl runs fine, but when I run beryl-manager from the tray, it just brings up the right-click beryl manager menu in the middle of the desktop, it does not restore the icon
[02:08] <variant> blackest: what do you mean exactly?
[02:08] <crdlb> blackest, if you don't use something like LVM, then you can just mount the other HDD to somewhere in your filesystem
[02:08] <LadyNikon> hmm
[02:08] <blackest> I've got a secondary drive mounted at dev/media/hdc1 and it has some space on it
[02:08] <`Lucas> There isn't anyting before the error.
[02:09] <LadyNikon> can you run fdisk from the 6.10 cd.. or do you have to go into the distro?
[02:09] <variant> LadyNikon: you can run from the cd
[02:09] <variant> LadyNikon: along with any other application
[02:09] <simmerz> does anyone know if the french govt are getting xubuntu or kubuntu or some other variant?
[02:09] <garfield9> wilco991: hey, i need your help with ndiswrapper...I also have a Broadcom chipset...unfortunately as I was configuring ndiswrapper I gave it the wrong drivers...do you know how can I go back and change this
[02:09] <blackest> now  I run mythtv and it stores files on var/lib/mythtv will it automatically recognise the spare space on hdc1
[02:09] <`Lucas> All I know is that my friend took my computer, formatted the HD and gave me the cd and said boot from cd and install.
[02:09] <LadyNikon> variant: just start at the command line?
[02:09] <variant> LadyNikon: yeah, but you are reccomended to use cfdisk
[02:09] <variant> LadyNikon: with sudo..
[02:09] <wilco991> garfield, I had to try about 10 different ones before it found the hardware
[02:09] <soundray> `Lucas: what's on the CD?
[02:09] <LadyNikon> variant: why?
[02:10] <`Lucas> Then when I did I got the menu I pressed enter and then after a few seconds I got Kernal Panic.
[02:10] <wilco991> one sec, I used a tutorial, let me find it
[02:10] <variant> LadyNikon: it is less prone to errors
[02:10] <delmar> FYI... I had a question earlier... " When installing ubuntu 6.10 it simply will not detect the network card. I have tried netgear, 3com & intel cards, and different slots, (abit vp6 board) and every time the cards detect during Bios Post, they work in windows on the same box, but the ununtu install keeps saying no network controler found... alt-f2 to the other console and 'lspci' shows nothing....empty.. really wierd.   Anyone have an
[02:10] <delmar> y thoughts on this?" .. I just resolved it by flashing the Abit VP6 board to the latest beta bios found at http://www.vp6-board.com.   I wonder where I should post this info?
[02:10] <variant> LadyNikon: if you read the "man fdisk" it even tells you to use cfdisk not fdisk
[02:10] <LadyNikon> variant: heh
[02:10] <`Lucas> soundtray - I am taking it thats its the basic cd for ubuntu.
[02:10] <`Lucas> I mean I do see the menu list asking if I want to install, install as server, boot from harddrive, etc.
[02:11] <LadyNikon> hmm
[02:11] <crdlb> delmar, you could post it on ubuntuforums so that it'd show up when someone searches for it
[02:11] <LadyNikon> dont think i have ever ran cfisk
[02:11] <Jeruvy> how could I move my personal files and settings from 6.06 in vmware to 6.10 on a real host?  Is there any migration tools I could use?
[02:11] <LadyNikon> i mean cfdisk
[02:11] <garfield9> wilco991: I've already found a pretty good tutorial...but I messed it up by using the wrong drivers....I have the right ones now but I don't know how to uninstall the bad drivers
[02:11] <soundray> `Lucas: do you happen to know which release it is?
[02:11] <`Lucas> I believe its the lastest one.
[02:12] <cobelloy> hi I just installed  installed server, and I am trying to get dial up networking, I ran pppconfig but modem is not detected, what can I do next?
[02:12] <LadyNikon> Can I partition while inside ubuntu.. like instead of dualbooting
[02:12] <soundray> `Lucas: what kind of processor does your Gateway have?
[02:12] <LadyNikon> just move around the partitions?
[02:12] <variant> Jeruvy: there is a migration assistant being worked on for feisty.. other than that you can simply back up your /home/username directory
[02:12] <wilco991> garfield9, I'm looking, one sec
[02:12] <Slart> LadyNikon: if you just want to partition hard drives you can do that with Gparted
[02:13] <variant> LadyNikon: yes, you can't modify the size of the root partition while you are booted to ubuntu though
[02:13] <LadyNikon> ohhh buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 357564 ?
[02:13] <`Lucas> P2
[02:13] <Jeruvy> varient is there any other locations I should be aware of (samba settings, etc.)?
[02:13] <variant> LadyNikon: as slart says, gparted is ideal for modifying parititons. just like partitionmagic
[02:13] <razzorz> WHY WHY WHY
[02:13] <Jeruvy> variant sorry, is there any other locations I should be aware of (samba settings, etc.)?
[02:13] <razzorz> my gawd
[02:13] <cobelloy> is there a separate channel for the ppc version?
[02:13] <variant> Jeruvy: it's all in /home
[02:13] <variant> Jeruvy: except your passwords and usernames of course..
[02:13] <LadyNikon> so .. run cfdisk from the command line as sudo?
[02:14] <variant> LadyNikon: yes
[02:14] <soundray> `Lucas: how much RAM?
[02:14] <`Lucas> 192
[02:14] <Jeruvy> variant: of course :) k thanks vm.
[02:14] <variant> LadyNikon: what are you trying to do?
[02:14] <razzorz> ok again.. i unmounted my usbdrive.. and now it wont load.... any ideas?
[02:14] <LadyNikon> variant: dual boot my laptop
[02:14] <variant> razzorz: unplug/plugin the drive
[02:14] <LadyNikon> its got ubuntu on it
[02:14] <Slart> well.. I'm off to bed.. good night people
[02:14] <razzorz> thats a simple one
[02:14] <LadyNikon> but i want to test windows on it again
[02:14] <wilco991> Garfield, this is not the easiest way but you could use the tutorial here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[02:14] <razzorz> i have many times
[02:14] <variant> LadyNikon: why don't you just use hte ubuntu installer?
[02:14] <wilco991> Garfield9, remove the old ndiswrapper and reinstall
[02:14] <variant> LadyNikon: or do you prefer to do things manually?
[02:14] <razzorz> and still no luck ..was workin b4 but since i unmounted it.. it has not
[02:14] <wilco991> try just typing ndiswrapper and looking at the syntax
[02:15] <wilco991> I'm using my windows box now
[02:15] <wilco991> sorry
[02:15] <LadyNikon> well dualbooting you usually.. install the partitions, install windows. then install linux?
[02:15] <garfield9> ok...thanks....I was hoping it wouldn't come to that
[02:15] <LadyNikon> at least thats how its been done for years
[02:15] <LadyNikon> why ubuntu does it for you?
[02:15] <snerfu> Is ubuntu taking up the whole drive LadyNikon?
[02:15] <variant> LadyNikon: the simplest way to dual boot has always been to install windows, partition and install gnu/linux
[02:15] <LadyNikon> snerfu: yep
[02:15] <LadyNikon> variant: install windows first?!?
[02:15] <variant> LadyNikon: if you already have ubuntu and want windows too thats a different matter. not to hard though
[02:15] <soundray> `Lucas: I don't know, it should be possible to install the server version at least, unless you have the wrong CD, or a faulty one
[02:16] <`Lucas> soundray, is it possible for me to put the files on the harddrive itself and boot it up that way, or will I still get a Kenerl Error.  Also, what does Kenell Panic mean anyway?
[02:16] <LadyNikon> how do you install windows first and the partitions secong?
[02:16] <fetcher> Is it possible to get rid of the Gnome "panels" menu-bar at the bottom?
[02:16] <snerfu> LadyNikon: I would proceed with getting knoppix and running qtparted to resize that linux partition and then creating one for windows.
[02:16] <variant> LadyNikon: of course.. seeing as ubuntu is aware of windows and can partition around it while windows has no clue about the existence of an other os
[02:16] <fetcher> I'm installing on a monitor that supports only 800x600, and that covers up part of the installer window
[02:16] <phewl> whats the program called that handles .r00 files
[02:16] <nugenoa> Anyone know what ProcXCloseDevice means?
[02:16] <phewl> !rar
[02:16] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:16] <cables> When unhibernating, I noticed that if you disable usplash, you can see how far it's gotten in restoring. I'd like to file a feature request for this percentage to be shown in Usplash. Would this be filed in Malone under Usplash, or something else?
[02:16] <variant> snerfu: why would you not use hte ubuntu live cd, which comes with gparted?
[02:16] <crdlb> fetcher, right-click, delete?
[02:16] <variant> snerfu: seeing as he probably already has this cd
[02:16] <wilco991> variant, back to my previous issue, running beryl-manager from the menu just makes the right click menu for the icon appear in the middle of the desktop, it does not restore the icon to the panel, any help?
[02:17] <razzorz> i and i have tryed to mount it again but it says razzorz@razzorz-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda /media/usbdrive mount: /dev/sda is not a valid block device
[02:17] <soundray> `Lucas: a kernel panic is a serious error condition where the kernel halts the processor to prevent possible damage
[02:17] <LadyNikon> uh
[02:17] <fetcher> crdlb: thanks, will try...
[02:17] <cables> variant, gparted livecd is fastser
[02:17] <variant> wilco991: thats odd
[02:17] <LadyNikon> eh
[02:17] <variant> cables: huh?
[02:17] <tier`> t
[02:17] <soundray> `Lucas: apart from wrong/faulty CDs, it could be a broken RAM module
[02:17] <snerfu> variant, never used the ubuntu live cd, that would work just the same though.
[02:17] <cables> variant, it boots faster I guess... I just joined, so I shouldn't butt into a conversation, sorry.
[02:17] <wilco991> and running "'sudo beryl-manager" freezes gnome and i have restart X
[02:17] <soundray> `Lucas: can you get the memtest86 option to boot?
[02:17] <razzorz> and sudo fdisk -l dont show the 3 drive like it did b4 i unmounted it
[02:17] <variant> LadyNikon: just boot the ubuntu live cd and repartition the hard disk as you please with gparted, you can select it from the menu
[02:17] <crparr> Hi! What is the package called for installing zlib on Breezy?
[02:17] <phewl> whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get
[02:17] <SirOSOriS> `Lucas, i dont think you're going to beable to install that version of ubuntu on your computer. for me 5.10 installed like a breeze, however i could not get 6.10 to install
[02:18] <cables> phewl, aptitude is smarter about dependencies
[02:18] <phewl> =s
[02:18] <phewl> so i should use aptitude ?
[02:18] <cables> phewl, aptitude also has a sort-of-gui if your run the command "aptitude" by itself
[02:18] <SirOSOriS> `Lucas, google told me it was the way linux detected usb devices like mouse/keyboard
[02:18] <cables> phewl, I use aptitude, your choice though.
[02:18] <soundray> SirOSOriS: there is no reason why it should fail at this stage though (`Lucas)
[02:18] <crparr> I'm trying to configure boxbackup on my fileserver. I get the error configure: error: cannot find zlib
[02:18] <phewl> Lol @ their gui
[02:18] <phewl> its sexy
[02:18] <`Lucas> SirOSOriS, do you have a direct link where I can install it. And where you the one who said that you had the same problem?
[02:18] <SirOSOriS> soundray, there are.
[02:19] <razzorz> any thoughts?..
[02:19] <snerfu> I actually didn't realize there was a live cd for ubuntu,  i have been upgrading this install since the first release.
[02:19] <`Lucas> soundray, is it possible for you to PM me?
[02:19] <SirOSOriS> i installed feisty alpha release 3 on mine instead
[02:19] <SirOSOriS> i think they're up to alpha 5 now
[02:19] <soundray> `Lucas: join #ubuntu-classroom pls
[02:20] <K3nto> i have a Pentium 3 laptop with 256mb ram. Would ubuntu do well on it?
[02:20] <soundray> K3nto: not well, but it would probably work
[02:20] <grantgm> K3nto: try xubuntu
[02:20] <K3nto> ok because i have xubuntu on it and it stinks
[02:20] <grantgm> i'm running it on something similar - its lighter, so it works better
[02:20] <K3nto> i cant even send things to the desktop : /
[02:20] <K3nto> so weird
[02:21] <nugenoa> What is this? ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?
[02:21] <fili1> hi all... can someone help me tu set a serial connection with ipaq h5550?
[02:21] <variant> K3nto: xfce is a little strange for some people. ubuntu will run on that system but not particularly fast
[02:21] <K3nto> and i cant delete things from the desktop. theres no freedom
[02:21] <Michael_the_choi> Does anyone on here have experience dual booting on a mac?
[02:21] <variant> K3nto: you just don't know how to use it..
[02:21] <K3nto> probably
[02:21] <LadyNikon> bleh now i have a new problem
[02:21] <razzorz> wow..
[02:21] <nu-> Hello world. 8800gtx + linux = no worky
[02:22] <mjunx> nu-, tried using the nvidia-glx drivers? or the ones from nvidia.com?
[02:22] <nu-> problems with the x server. so i go edit xorg.conf, and it's blank
[02:22] <variant> nu-: that was a seriously meaningless scentance..
[02:22] <nu-> well i can't even start ubuntu
[02:22] <SirOSOriS> nu- you must sudo it
[02:22] <SirOSOriS> or it will be blank
[02:22] <grantgm> K3nto: you might want to give another light distro a try: maybe "Damn Small Linux"?
[02:22] <variant> nu-: you just said it was a problem with the xserver?
[02:22] <nu-> i did
[02:22] <netcrash> Hello, can anyone check if this dns 62.48.131.10(11) responds to bigpromotores.pt , please
[02:23] <nu-> sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[02:23] <K3nto> grantgm: ic
[02:23] <nu-> shows up blank
[02:23] <soundray> fili1: have you seen http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936
[02:23] <wheels3572> How do I find out what parts of java are installed ?
[02:23] <variant> netcrash: please see !offtopic
[02:23] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: you need to say what the problem is
[02:23] <cables> wheels3572, what do you mean what parts of java?
[02:23] <SirOSOriS> nu sudo gedit
[02:23] <nu-> isnt Gedit GUI only?
[02:23] <wheels3572> cables, I installed java-common and another java I wanna see what javas were installed
[02:23] <netcrash> !offtopic
[02:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:23] <variant> nu-: thats because you typed the name wrong. use bash completion.
[02:23] <grantgm> does anyone know how to restart the sound without rebooting?
[02:23] <mjunx> nu-, yeah
[02:24] <fili1> soundray: no, I will check it now... thanke you
[02:24] <variant> nu-: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:24] <Xenguy> o/~ /me yodels, I got the offtopic bluez... o/~
[02:24] <variant> nu-: not x11
[02:24] <Michael_the_choi> soundray - it's not a *problem*, per se. I'm wondering how/if-i-should-even-try to mount the linux partition on the mac side, and the mac partition on the linux side.
[02:24] <cables> wheels3572, open Synaptic Package Manager and search for java
[02:24] <mjunx> nu-, you can use vim, or nano, or even ed to edit files without the GUI
[02:24] <nu-> thank gedit wont work. i am trying to install ubuntu. but it wont start. give me a x server error.
[02:24] <wheels3572> cables, ok
[02:24] <variant> nu-: did you see what i just told you?
[02:24] <nu-> mjunx: i used nano. xorg.conf is blank
[02:24] <mjunx> if you don't have an xorg.conf file, that could be a problem...
[02:24] <wheels3572> cables, wasn't sure if there was a way to do it via cli
[02:24] <nu-> oh
[02:24] <nu-> variant: i did now. thank you
[02:24] <variant> mjunx: he is typeing /etc/x11 instead of /etc/X11 ...
[02:25] <cables> wheels3572, there is, I'm just too lazy to write the command out
[02:25] <mjunx> oh, that's a silly mistake :D
[02:25] <Xenguy> nu-: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[02:25] <wheels3572> ohhhhhhh
[02:25] <nu-> Ok but say i edit xorg.conf...what am i changing in there?
[02:25] <gravemind> hey guys, for NFS, what do I put for Allowed host/network? What goes there?
[02:25] <Xenguy> nu-: with sudo
[02:25] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: both work. For the Mac, you need a third-party driver.
[02:25] <nu-> Xenguy: what will that do?
[02:25] <cables> wheels3572, dpkg -l | grep ii.*java | less
[02:25] <mjunx> gravemind, ipaddress/subnet
[02:25] <Xenguy> nu-: reconfigure your X config
[02:25] <LadyNikon> its boot, root, swap, windows right?
[02:25] <variant> nu-: try paste binning the error message you get when starting x
[02:25] <Xenguy> nu-: hopefully
[02:25] <Xenguy> :-)
[02:25] <wheels3572> cables, ok ty
[02:26] <gravemind> mjunx, cool
[02:26] <variant> LadyNikon: if you want, that is a normal layout. ubuntu uses just one big partition though by default unfortunatly
[02:26] <mjunx> gravemind, so for example 10.4.0.0/12
[02:26] <cables> Hey what's the difference between apt-get autoclean and apt-get clean?
[02:26] <gravemind> mjunx, both of them, or either or?
[02:26] <Michael_the_choi> soundray - ok.  And is it *safe* to do read-write to mount the mac parition? I read something that suggested it might be problematic, and only to mount it read, but I don't know how old that was.
[02:26] <gravemind> oh I see
[02:26] <variant> LadyNikon: i like to have /home on it's own partition (own disk where possible)
[02:26] <nu-> ok. ill be back guys. thanks for all the help so far
[02:26] <grantgm> i'd think  "/etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" would restart the sound, but it doesn't seem to do anything...any ideas?
[02:26] <mjunx> gravemind, you can specify a single IP without the subnet I think
[02:26] <stodge> Just wondering if there's a package for the Django project available for Ubuntu?
[02:26] <LadyNikon> variant: well ubuntu made a swap.. root.. and extended
[02:26] <LadyNikon> at least thats what i am looking at with qtp
[02:26] <gravemind> mjunx - great, I'll try
[02:26] <LadyNikon> i mean gparted
[02:26] <fili1> soundray: this is not what I am searching... I want instal familiar linux on my PDA, but I dont know how to setup the serial connection
[02:27] <variant> LadyNikon: yes, it makes swap too.. forgot that
[02:27] <Xenguy> cables: it's a significant difference and you can read it in 'man apt-get'  :-)
[02:27] <Ubuntu_GRUB> what do entries like: "root (hd0,0)" mean?  I am trying to make sure that GRUB is set correctly to boot windows
[02:27] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: on the Linux side, it's pretty safe -- hfsplus is definitely much easier to handle in free software than Windows' ntfs
[02:27] <variant> Ubuntu_GRUB: that is the first partition on the first hard disk
[02:27] <grantgm> Ubuntu_GRUB: they refer to the hdd and the partition
[02:27] <Michael_the_choi> soundray - excelent.  Thanks. :-) That'll make it easier.
[02:27] <LadyNikon> what variant said
[02:28] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: Ext2fs for Mac isn't quite so mature -- it mounts your ext3 systems without journalling, for example.
[02:28] <variant> Ubuntu_GRUB: /dev/hda1 is (hd0,0) in grub
[02:28] <Michael_the_choi> soundray - I don't know what journaling is. *blush*.
[02:28] <LadyNikon> hda (0) the 1 (0)
[02:28] <variant> Ubuntu_GRUB: grub counts from 0 linux counts from 1
[02:28] <Ubuntu_GRUB> okok :D
[02:28] <Ubuntu_GRUB> so what would hdb1 stand for?
[02:28] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: it's what distinguishes ext3 from ext2
[02:28] <Michael_the_choi> ahh. ok.
[02:28] <Michael_the_choi> I
[02:28] <variant> (hd1,1)
[02:28] <Michael_the_choi> I'll look it up. :-)
[02:28] <Michael_the_choi> Thanks!
[02:28] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: makes it a bit more reliable
[02:28] <variant> Ubuntu_GRUB: (hd1,1)
[02:29] <LadyNikon> variant: it wouldnt be (hd1,0) ?
[02:29] <soundray> fili1: maybe minicom is what you need. Ubotu will pm you
[02:29] <soundray> !minicom > fili1
[02:29] <variant> LadyNikon: ah, well spotted
[02:29] <variant> grantgm: (hd1,0)
[02:29] <variant> ffs
[02:29] <variant> Ubuntu_GRUB: (hd1,0)
[02:29] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: just curious: did you install rEFIt?
[02:29] <Ubuntu_GRUB> ok, so (hd1,0) is hdb1 :D
[02:29] <mjunx> ffs is another filesystem you could probably use between os x and linux :)
[02:29] <grantgm> Ubuntu_GRUB: yea. second hdd, first partition
[02:30] <cables> Xenguy, thanks :)
[02:30] <Michael_the_choi> soundray- Yes.
[02:30] <variant> i'm off to study. later all
[02:30] <cables> Xenguy, thanks for not letting me be lazy.
[02:30] <LadyNikon> Ubuntu_GRUB: remember the beginning is always 0
[02:30] <snowpunk98> Whats the command to take ownership of a folder again?
[02:30] <Xenguy> cables: you can be lazy and still read man pages ;-)
[02:30] <LadyNikon> then so forth and so on
[02:30] <Xenguy> cables: yw
[02:30] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: I installed my Mac without it -- just Bootcamp, and it worked. What does refit actually do?
[02:30] <mahuyar> Can you download a source package with aptitude?
[02:31] <mjunx> probably
[02:31] <soundray> Bye variant
[02:31] <Michael_the_choi> soundray- I followed the whole process as described on http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[02:31] <fili1> soundray: thanke you again, I have already instaled it, but I don't understend how to use... I don't know how to get connected with the pda
[02:31] <blithe> I still don't understand what bootcamp actually is, isn't it just a bootloader that looks pretty?
[02:31] <cables> Xenguy, is setting up apt-get clean as a cron job a good or bad idea?
[02:31] <mahuyar> mjunx, I see only for .deb file.
[02:31] <cables> blithe, it's a bootloader, but it also burns a cd full of drivers for Windows
[02:31] <Ubuntu_GRUB> the beginning is always 0?  I have an sda1,2 then hdb1,2.  How can I decide what is the beginning?
[02:31] <bruenig> cables, if your intent is to apt-get clean on occasion anyways, setting it up to do it automatically by cron is no problem
[02:31] <blithe> cables: Ah, gotcha.
[02:31] <Michael_the_choi> soundray - refit catches things right at the start, I presume like most bootloaders, and gives you a graphic option to choose mac OS, linux, and a few tools (that I haven't played with, and probably shouldn't).
[02:31] <mjunx> well, you can use apt-get source
[02:31] <Xenguy> cables: cron job will just repeat your decision, so if it is a good choice for you, then that is fine and good :-)
[02:32] <bruenig> make sure it doesn't prompt though, don't know if you need to -y it or not
[02:32] <cables> Xenguy, alright :)
[02:32] <soundray> blithe: no, it's a set of utilities and procedures to make Windows install on an Intel Mac
[02:32] <cables> Xenguy, I'm actually doing it with anacron
[02:32] <Ubuntu_GRUB> man, all you guys know too much about Linux
[02:32] <Ubuntu_GRUB> should I use Fedora or Ubuntu?
[02:32] <blithe> You're asking a biased crowd. :P
[02:32] <cables> Ubuntu_GRUB, what do you think we'll tell you? Look at the channel name :)
[02:32] <snowpunk98> Can anyone tell me the command to take ownership of a folder?
[02:32] <cables> !chown
[02:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:32] <Ubuntu_GRUB> *think for a little bit... nah I like Automatic & EasyUbuntu
[02:32] <Xenguy> cables: yeah, the syntax is still the same I think, e.g.:  crontab -e
[02:33] <bruenig> cables, what is the benefit of anacron
[02:33] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: I see... I'd like to check it out, but I'm worried. You know how they say "if it ain'
[02:33] <cables> Xenguy, I know how to use Anocron. just edit anacrontab :)
[02:33] <cables> bruenig, if you set it for daily, it'll run it whenever it can rather than at a specific time
[02:33] <soundray> if it ain't broke, don't fix it
[02:33] <`Lucas> SirOSOriS, do you have a link so I can attempt to install 5.10
[02:33] <Xenguy> cables: hrm, I've never modified anacron config
[02:33] <`Lucas> Listen to soundray, trust me!
[02:33] <cables> bruenig, so if the comp's not on, it'll run it when it IS on.
[02:34] <bruenig> cables, I thought that cron would just do the command whenever you booted it back up
[02:34] <`Lucas> I broke a lot of things that weren't even broken.
[02:34] <cables> Xenguy, there's a specific editor for it?
[02:34] <cables> bruenig, I don't think so... that's why Anacron was written :)
[02:34] <Xenguy> cables: I thought that anacron just automagically runs cronjobs after you login
[02:34] <bruenig> I read that somewhere, must be wrong
[02:34] <Michael_the_choi> soundray - indeed. ;-)   With refit, you still need a bootloader, though, I guess to emulate bios? (this is all way out of my league. ;-) )  I think it has to do with the mac's boot process, which is a bit different.  I know if I choose linux, it starts grub.
[02:34] <cables> Xenguy, it's configured to do that, but you can add other tasks to it also.
[02:34] <SirOSOriS> 'lucas dont u think google has it!
[02:34] <Xenguy> cables: there are many editors you can use; having at least 1 editor that will run without X is a smart move :-)
[02:35] <Michael_the_choi> It gives a command line, or something, or lets you adjust partitions as two other options, *i think.*
[02:35] <wheels3572> Im trying to see what plugins are installed in firefox how do I do that
[02:35] <Xenguy> cables: I C
[02:35] <`Lucas> True!
[02:35] <jrib> wheels3572: about:plugins in your address bar
[02:35] <cables> Xenguy, crontab just opens Nano for me
[02:35] <Shaba1> wow
[02:35] <Shaba1> that took a will to open
[02:35] <Xenguy> cables: nano is fine
[02:35] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: I've got grub to boot Linux, but if I hold the Option key, I get to choose Mac OS X and it never sees grub
[02:35] <wheels3572> jrib, ty that's it I knew it was something : lol
[02:35] <wheels3572> ty
[02:35] <cables> Xenguy, I know :)
[02:35] <Xenguy> cables: OK
[02:36] <cables> Xenguy, anacron config is in /etc/anacrontab
[02:36] <Michael_the_choi> soundray- I see, ok.
[02:36] <wheels3572> jrib, cant get into any yahoo game rooms damn white blank page any idea?
[02:36] <Michael_the_choi> soundray- what's the command then to mount the hfs+ drive?  (I'll mess with the other direction later.)
[02:36] <jrib> wheels3572: I think that uses java, does http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml work?
[02:36] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: like any mount command, just with the '-t hfsplus' option
[02:37] <Michael_the_choi> soundray - Ok. THanks!
[02:37] <SirOSOriS> y is ubuntu ultimate gamers edition everything that ubuntu 6.10 isnt?
[02:37] <Xenguy> !troll
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <Xenguy> hah!
[02:38] <wheels3572> jrib, yes that does work
[02:38] <SirOSOriS> y have mplayer installed when it cant hardly play any files for instance?
[02:38] <wheels3572> hmmmmmmm
[02:38] <Toma-> SirOSOriS: probably because its not the same thing?
[02:38] <garfield9> Help! When I try to blacklist my Wifi drivers using the "sudo echo blacklist..." I always get a Permission Denied message
[02:38] <cables> garfield9, try doing sudo -i to bring you to a root terminal, then running the command (without sudo)
[02:38] <Toma-> garfield9: whats the exact command youre using?
[02:38] <BinderDundat_> tel Hello all!
[02:38] <jrib> wheels3572: hmm, try a new firefox profile to make sure it's not one of your extensions
[02:39] <cables> garfield9, that way the whole thing will be run as root, not justt the "echo" bit.
[02:39] <garfield9> Toma: sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:39] <soundray> Toma-: pardon my curiosity, I'd like to know what your quit line means -- pm?
[02:39] <wheels3572> ok
[02:39] <cables> wheels3572, firefox -safe-mode to test whether it's your extensions
[02:39] <cables> Is he using Chatzilla extension in Firefox or something?
[02:39] <Toma-> garfield9: 'echo bcm43xx | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist'
[02:40] <garfield9> cables: it worked
[02:40] <Toma-> soundray: doesnt really mean much at all...
[02:40] <Michael_the_choi> soundray - to double check, so I don't mess anything up. ;-) In my /dev folder, there's only "hda" - no numbered versions. I would have guessed hda1.  Is "hda" what I should be mounting?
[02:40] <cables> garfield9, good :)
[02:41] <cables> !wifi | eavawter, maybe this will help
[02:41] <ubotu> eavawter, maybe this will help: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:41] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: ah, no
[02:41] <rwxr-xr--> how can i install .tar.gz in Ubuntu same ? ./configure?
[02:41] <cables> rwxr-xr--, is it a source tar.gz?
[02:41] <rwxr-xr--> ya
[02:41] <eavawter> I'll look ..but gotta tell ya .. I've been trying to get this d*&( card working for 3 days now
[02:41] <garfield9> cables: if I close the terminal window where I was logged in as root...does that effectively take away the root priveledges?
[02:41] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: now my memory fails me. You have to load a module so it will read the disklabel (the Mac equivalent of a DOS-style partition table)
[02:42] <cables> garfield9, yep, you're safe :)
[02:42] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  i uncompress it with tar -zxvf
[02:42] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: you can build just like any other source package, but be advised, its not support, or encouraged. i do suggest using "checkinstall" instead of 'make install' tho.
[02:42] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: but I can't remember right now...
[02:42] <Michael_the_choi> ahh. Ok.
[02:42] <SirOSOriS> what's the difference between a source and a binary installation file?
[02:42] <Michael_the_choi> soundray- I'll look around online later and see what I can find. THanks!
[02:42] <cables> rwxr-xr--, cd to the untarred folder, run ./configure (you may have to install dependencies first) then it'll be done
[02:42] <Toma-> SirOSOriS: source is built against your system. binary is built against someone elses and usually isnt compatible, unless they provide the nessecary libs
[02:42] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  then make? or as Toma said check install?
[02:43] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  or just ./configure then done?
[02:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, then make, then checkinstall
[02:43] <rwxr-xr--> okie okie
[02:43] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: ./configure ; make ; checkinstall (youll need to install checkinstall with apt-get
[02:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, make will make a binary file in that folder
[02:43] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: found it. It's compiled into the ubuntu kernel by default, so that's not it, sorry
[02:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, then run checkinstall (install the checkinstall package first though)
[02:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, actually you'll need to run "sudo checkinstall"
[02:43] <Michael_the_choi> oh, hmm.
[02:43] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  oke sudo apt-get install checkinstall ?
[02:44] <cables> rwxr-xr--, yep
[02:44] <cables> rwxr-xr--, you have build-essential, right?
[02:44] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  ok thanks
[02:44] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  ya i have those
[02:44] <cables> rwxr-xr--, you can remove the -dev dependencies when you're done installing if you like
[02:44] <yipe> what's a .cbz file?
[02:44] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  ok
[02:45] <Toma-> yipe: afaik, its a comic book
[02:45] <zach89909> h
[02:45] <yipe> neat!
[02:45] <alan_> exit
[02:46] <snowpunk98> Can someone tell me how to take ownership of a directory
[02:46] <zach89909> can someone help me compile a custom kernel without errors?
[02:46] <Toma-> !kernel
[02:46] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:46] <cables> snowpunk98, you want gui or terminal?
[02:46] <Toma-> zach89909: see the last weblink in what ubotu said
[02:46] <cables> snowpunk98, I can help better with the gui
[02:46] <snowpunk98> cabldevil, term if possible
[02:47] <cables> snowpunk98, i think it's chown, but I'm not entirely sure.
[02:47] <Toma-> snowpunk98: man chown
[02:47] <Michael_the_choi> soundray- if I figure out the number, I can I mount it even though it isn't visible in /dev?  I found something that says to run parted (*gasp!*) and it will list which number it is.
[02:48] <Michael_the_choi> (or mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda ?)
[02:48] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: normally you can only mount a partition for which a device exists. But do try parted or gparted, it's quite hard to do something wrong with those
[02:48] <zach89909> Toma-:  from kernel.org
[02:48] <payal> hi all
[02:49] <Shaba1> Ok am I stuck again
[02:49] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: mac-fdisk sounds good, but ubuntu doesn't provide it as far as I can tell
[02:49] <payal> I want to change passwords of thirty users at a time - the password is same
[02:49] <payal> isthere any way to do it
[02:50] <i3ooi3oo> !NVIDIA-LEGACY
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-legacy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  after checkisntall its show me.. " [02:50] <rwxr-xr--> " its mean my package installed fine?
[02:50] <i3ooi3oo> !NVIDIA
[02:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:50] <Toma-> zach89909: read the "old-Fashioned way" and just use the tarball from kernel.org instead of the /usr/src/linux.tar.gz
[02:50] <cables> rwxr-xr--, probably :)
[02:50] <payal> any ideas ?'
[02:50] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: yes.
[02:50] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  but there is problem when i try to open the app give me error.
[02:50] <Michael_the_choi> soundray: sda2. ;-)
[02:51] <cables> rwxr-xr--, that doesn't mean the package installation didn't go right.
[02:51] <cables> rwxr-xr--, that means the make didn't go right
[02:51] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: what error?
[02:51] <zach89909> Toma-: That is what I did, but it gave me a ton of errors and not founds
[02:52] <Toma-> zach89909: did you read the rest of the howto?
[02:52] <zach89909> no
[02:52] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,: root@freddy:/home/freddy/Desktop# trix
[02:52] <rwxr-xr--> trix: cannot connect to X server
[02:52] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: dont run it as root
[02:52] <jrandolph> i having problems getting my ati card to work. i've been following the binary dirver/how to on the ubuntu website, but it doesn't seem to be working. is there another set of instructions i can follow?
[02:53] <jrandolph> *i'm
[02:53] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  same problem with the user too
[02:53] <zach89909> Toma-: #make xconfig
[02:54] <zach89909> Toma-: #make dep
[02:54] <eavawter> anyone know anything about belkin routers and NAT's
[02:54] <Toma-> zach89909: youre not following the guide?
[02:54] <zach89909> Toma-: #make bzImage
[02:54] <cables> eavawter, is it an Ubuntu problem?
[02:55] <zach89909> Tk
[02:55] <fetcher> What's the best way to enable console messages during the boot process (both kernel & startup scripts) that Ubuntu hides by default?
[02:55] <eavawter> it is when it's the reason my wireless card won't connect ... so yes
[02:55] <cables> fetcher, edit menu.lst
[02:55] <Toma-> fetcher: remove 'quiet' from the boot parameter
[02:55] <cables> fetcher, edit the defoptions section to remove quiet and splash, then run sudo update-grub
[02:56] <cables> fetcher, the splash can also display messages, so just remove quiet if you want that
[02:56] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  i Found something in make..
[02:56] <fetcher> cables, Toma: thanks!
[02:56] <cables> fetcher, if you just want it temporarily, you can edit the line from the GRUB menu
[02:56] <zach89909> Toma-: Patrick Sweiskowski had success with it!
[02:57] <Toma-> zach89909: well ask Patrick Sweiskowski about it :D ive never been able to roll a kernel with the old skool commands in ubuntu. always works fine with the fakeroot makedpkg stuff.
[02:57] <Scunizi> Can anyone reccommend a channel for talking about images in HTML?
[02:57] <Kikkoman> oh carp
[02:57] <Kikkoman> I just installed ubuntu
[02:57] <Toma-> Scunizi: you can try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:57] <Kikkoman> But now I can't boot into windows.
[02:57] <Scunizi> toma:  Thanks...
[02:58] <Kikkoman> It shows it as a choice, but it doesn't load into windows, it just returns to the GRUB menu
[02:58] <dyrne> Kikkoman: does windows show as an option at boot?
[02:58] <Toma-> Kikkoman: thats because ubuntu has killed your windows, for the good of mankind.
[02:58] <paitart> hi. what program should i get to be able to edit an mp4 video file?
[02:58] <Kikkoman> What can I do?
[02:58] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  if i found something problem or error with make cmd then what i should i do in return like " make[1] : Entering directory `/home/freddy/Desktop/trix-0.91'
[02:58] <rwxr-xr-->  " , "make[1] : Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
[02:58] <rwxr-xr--> "
[02:58] <Toma-> Kikkoman: sounds like a simple grub error. can you please copy /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin?
[02:58] <Kikkoman> Erm
[02:59] <Kikkoman> One second
[02:59] <Toma-> !pastebin | Kikkoman
[02:59] <ubotu> Kikkoman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:59] <cables> rwxr-xr--, i don't know...
[02:59] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  ok.
[02:59] <Kikkoman> Toma-:Well that's it though, it also can't access the internet after ubuntu
[03:00] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: its fine. its just saying you gave no specifications to build that part of the program
[03:00] <netcrash> !offtopic
[03:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:00] <Toma-> Kikkoman: as in windows cant access the internet or ubuntu cant?
[03:00] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Ubuntu
[03:00] <Hammwell> is there a package for mod_perl2?
[03:01] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  well can i paste something on pastebin and if u have sometime can u chk it?
[03:01] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok youre using a wireless card im guessing?
[03:01] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: sure
[03:01] <rwxr-xr--> thanks
[03:01] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: tbh, itll be more useful to see the output of ./configure
[03:01] <paitart> hi. what program should i get to be able to edit an mp4 video file?
[03:01] <Kikkoman> Toma-:No, I have a direct connection
[03:02] <Kikkoman> Toma-:This computer (unrelated) is connecting through wireless] 
[03:02] <snowpunk98> Whats the dpkg command to remove a package I used -i to install
[03:02] <bruenig> Hammwell, libapache2-mod-perl2:
[03:02] <Toma-> Kikkoman: its pretty simple to setup with the Network Manager in System > Admin > Network
[03:02] <Toma-> snowpunk98: dpkg -e
[03:02] <Kikkoman> ok
[03:02] <Hammwell> thanks bruenig :)
[03:02] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I'll try that and get back to you
[03:02] <Toma-> ok
[03:03] <bruenig> Toma-, I thought it was dpkg -r
[03:03] <snowpunk98> I think it was a bad idea to use alien to convert adobe to a deb :(
[03:03] <snowpunk98> now its broke
[03:03] <Toma-> *searches man page*
[03:03] <Kikkoman> Toma-: How do I get to that?
[03:03] <fetcher> How much actual performance benefit would a desktop machine see from a custom kernel optimized for the CPU (Athlon XP)?  I've always done that on other distros, but mostly just out of habit...
[03:03] <Toma-> ahh yes :D
[03:03] <Toma-> fetcher: absolutly no difference.
[03:04] <crdlb> fetcher, not much
[03:04] <crdlb> fetcher, you definitely shouldn't build your own kernel just for the speed
[03:04] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  same line comes again n again when i try to run "trix: cannot connect to X server
[03:04] <rwxr-xr-->  "
[03:04] <Ashbringer> Hello, would anyone be able to give me a link to a good kernel compilation guide? I have a vanilla kernel installed, and I'd like to compile an Ubuntu one.
[03:04] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: the problem wont fix itself
[03:05] <Toma-> !kernel | Ashbringer
[03:05] <ubotu> Ashbringer: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:05] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10397/
[03:05] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I assume it might help to say that Ubuntu is on the slave drive
[03:05] <Toma-> ahh ha.
[03:05] <Kikkoman> Toma-: And Windows is on master
[03:05] <Toma-> Kikkoman: where did you install grub to? MBR?
[03:05] <Kikkoman> Toma-: hd(0,1)
[03:06] <fetcher> crdlb: yeah, suspected as much, especialy for the light duty this machine will see.
[03:06] <Kikkoman> You know what I mean
[03:06] <Ashbringer> thanks Toma
[03:06] <Kikkoman> hard drive 0, partition 1, which is windows partition
[03:06] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: ahh, now thats easy to fix.
[03:06] <jrandolph> when trying to run aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv i get these two lines: Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session... and Warning: Option 'OpenGlOverlay' doesn't affect running session. should i be concerned about these warnings?
[03:06] <hunterp> http://digg.com/health/U_S_appeals_court_rules_against_dying_woman_in_medical_marijuana_case_In
[03:06] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  For u it is :) for me its a big thing i m overall newbie .. n using Ubuntu 1st time
[03:07] <dyrne> Kikkoman: hda1 would be hd0,0 hda2 hd0,1
[03:07] <Kikkoman> :o
[03:07] <Kikkoman> The default was hda0
[03:07] <Kikkoman> or something
[03:08] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: just a moment
[03:08] <dyrne> Kikkoman: did you paste menu.lst?
[03:08] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  sure dude nevamind i m waiting :)
[03:08] <Kikkoman> dyrne: I haven't been able to
[03:08] <Kikkoman> dyrne: Ubuntu won't access internet
[03:08] <dyrne> Kikkoman: ah
[03:08] <enderxim> Is there a way to use a bootable cd/dvd from an ext3 partitions .iso file?
[03:08] <dyrne> Kikkoman: sudo fdisk -l    to see partitions is the ntfs partition hda1?
[03:09] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: run this "XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 trix"
[03:09] <Toma-> see if that helps
[03:09] <johnt> Python group needs me to IDENTIFY but I do not have a password. what do I need to do?
[03:09] <Kikkoman> fdisk?
[03:09] <schmity> hey
[03:09] <Kikkoman> Isn't that destructive partitioner?
[03:09] <schmity> where can i download a LIVECD for my MACBOOKPRO of UBUNTU OR KUBUNTU?
[03:09] <bimberi> !register | johnt
[03:09] <ubotu> johnt: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:09] <Kikkoman> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <Kikkoman> I think
[03:09] <dyrne> johnt: /msg nickserv register password   then whenever you log back in just /msg nickserv identify password
[03:09] <enderxim> Kikkoman: the -l just lists the partitions
[03:09] <Kikkoman> oh
[03:10] <Kikkoman> enderxim: In terminal then?
[03:10] <johnt> Thank you I will go look
[03:10] <schmity> Kikkoman: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/livecd-base/
[03:10] <schmity> nothing there
[03:10] <Kikkoman> Ah
[03:10] <Kikkoman> Thanks
[03:10] <enderxim> Kikkoman: yeah, sudo fdisk -l. i came into the conversation late. Are you just trying to find your ntfs partition?
[03:10] <PriceChild> !caps | schmity
[03:10] <Kikkoman> Yes
[03:10] <ubotu> schmity: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:10] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  same as before "root@freddy:~# XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 trix
[03:10] <rwxr-xr--> trix: cannot connect to X server
[03:10] <rwxr-xr--> "
[03:10] <Kikkoman> enderxim: I believe it is hd(0,1)
[03:11] <Kikkoman> enderxim: Windows is the second partition on the master HDD
[03:11] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: seriously, dont run it as root.
[03:11] <schmity> ubotu: i like shouting
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i like shouting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <schmity> !caps | PriceChild
[03:11] <ubotu> PriceChild: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:11] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  before tried it with user
[03:11] <schmity> !caps | PriceChild
[03:11] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: running it as root will try to load it in a root X window, which, you shouldnt have.
[03:11] <PriceChild> !botabuse > schmity
[03:11] <snowpunk98> Is Rythembox not able to play midi?
[03:11] <schmity> PriceChild: please stop harrasing me
[03:12] <crdlb> snowpunk98, I don't know of a gstreamer midi plugin, so afaik no
[03:12] <snowpunk98> :(
[03:12] <snowpunk98> What should I be playing midis with
[03:12] <Toma-> snowpunk98: timidity will
[03:12] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  dude same screen comes with the user too.
[03:12] <Kikkoman> Anyone: How do I access System > Network > Config
[03:12] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: ok. stop running stuff as root :)
[03:12] <Kikkoman> Or whatnot
[03:12] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  okie :) now i m be with user :)
[03:12] <snowpunk98> is there a single audio application that will play all formats
[03:13] <Toma-> Kikkoman: System button > Administration > Network ??
[03:13] <Kikkoman> oh
[03:13] <Kikkoman> ^^
[03:13] <Toma-> snowpunk98: rythmnbox will
[03:13] <crdlb> snowpunk98, mplayer will play almost anything you can throw at it
[03:13] <adrenalin1983> Hi, I just installed ubuntu, everything is sweet with my networking config, but I cant browse web pages, I can ping which means dns seems to be working, im a bit stuck. Can someone please help?
[03:13] <mjunx> and the things it can't? you should file a bug with mplayer :P
[03:14] <mjunx> adrenalin1983, can you ping domain names?
[03:14] <adrenalin1983> can u give me an example of one to ping?
[03:14] <mjunx> google.com
[03:14] <adrenalin1983> yes
[03:14] <mjunx> tried and true :P
[03:14] <adrenalin1983> already have
[03:14] <mjunx> are you running NetworkManager?
[03:14] <crdlb> adrenalin1983, is it a dhcp ethernet connection to a router?
[03:15] <adrenalin1983> dhcp ethernet
[03:15] <adrenalin1983> local network
[03:15] <adrenalin1983> picks up ip fine
[03:15] <snowpunk98> Does the terminal log anywhere
[03:15] <snowpunk98> like the things I type into it
[03:15] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Ok, so I'm in the networking option, what do I do to make the internet connect
[03:15] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: have you got that output from ./configure for me yet?
[03:15] <mjunx> snowpunk98, ~/.bash_history
[03:15] <crdlb> adrenalin1983, so you haven't configured anything on ubuntu right
[03:15] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It seems that I have no IP or DNS
[03:15] <crdlb> manually
[03:16] <Toma-> Kikkoman: not sure. set it up like any other network? are you using DHCP?
[03:16] <adrenalin1983> I tried manually configuring the network to see if dhcp was screwed but no difference
[03:16] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  now im trying to install .deb package but same problem with .deb package too
[03:16] <adrenalin1983> I ifconfig manually set ip and netmask
[03:16] <adrenalin1983> added a default gw to my server
[03:16] <Kikkoman> Toma-: ;A; I don't know how to set up the network in Ubuntu
[03:16] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: this might seem silly, but you are running this from within a GUI right?
[03:16] <snowpunk98> mjunx, Thats the name of the file?
[03:16] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  ya
[03:16] <Toma-> !network
[03:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:16] <crdlb> adrenalin1983, try: wget google.com
[03:16] <mjunx> snowpunk98, yeah
[03:17] <adrenalin1983> and checked my sources.list and made sure the server was there as a domain name server
[03:17] <Toma-> ...wireless? silly bot.
[03:17] <eavawter> is there a way to keep track of what you've typed into the terminal window?
[03:17] <crdlb> eavawter, press up
[03:17] <Toma-> eavawter: ~/.bash_history
[03:17] <mjunx> eavawter, I just told adrenalin1983
[03:17] <adrenalin1983> It says connecting ... but ip is 1.0.0.0|:80
[03:17] <Kikkoman> Toma-: If I have my IP from before, can I just put that in?
[03:17] <mjunx> or maybe you just joined
[03:17] <adrenalin1983> says that for apt aswell
[03:17] <eavawter> thanks
[03:18] <Toma-> Kikkoman: if youre home network is using STATIC ips then yes. if its using DHCP, then no. you select DHCP and off you go. can you setup a network in windows?
[03:18] <rwxr-xr--> hmm
[03:18] <snowpunk98> Hmm
[03:18] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I can't access Windows, remember? It is on the master while Ubuntu is on the slave
[03:19] <snowpunk98> mjunx, Do you know is there is anything thatll show me the terminal output also
[03:19] <adrenalin1983> any ideas?
[03:19] <Toma-> Kikkoman: i mean, are you capable of doing that... its pretty much the same process
[03:19] <tier`> if my monitor is capable of a resolution that isn't showing up as an option in my desktop settings is there a way to force it?
[03:19] <mjunx> snowpunk98, I don't think that's logged anywhere
[03:19] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Hmm, I'll just reboot and push F8 for a list of Operating systems
[03:19] <tier`> editing xorg.conf perhaps?
[03:19] <snowpunk98> oh well
[03:19] <hunterp> does no one care about dying woman denied of the one drug keeping her alive?
[03:19] <Roachclit_> What do I put in for the ESSID?
[03:19] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Oh, but yes I am capable
[03:19] <crdlb> hunterp, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:19] <LabThug_hm> How do you tile windows in Kbuntu?
[03:19] <Kikkoman> hunterp: No, I'm not interested in your little marijuana story :P
[03:20] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok :) just set it up like any other network and sometimes youll need to "Stop" and "start" the device again (all in the network manager dialog)
[03:20] <mjunx> cannabis
[03:20] <zoonga> need some network assistance with ubuntu
[03:20] <mjunx> ask away
[03:20] <Roachclit_> What should I put in for the ESSID for ubuntu?
[03:20] <zoonga> wired, eth0, gets dns but no ip... dhcp setup
[03:20] <Toma-> Roachclit_: put your wireless routers ESSID into it...
[03:21] <emcay> anyone know how to get a linksys wireless-G card to work with ubuntu
[03:21] <mjunx> what model, emcay?
[03:21] <adrenalin1983> When I annitiate apt-get update ... it attempts to update from ip 1.0.0.0 and the same with mget
[03:21] <emcay> wmp56gs
[03:21] <adrenalin1983> why would this be happening?
[03:21] <tier`> heh, does everyone who comes in here ask solely about shit involving ndiswrapper/bcm43xx-fwcutter? =P
[03:22] <Kikkoman> ;A;
[03:22] <mjunx> a lot of people come in here, that's for sure
[03:22] <Roachclit_> Is the ESSID an ip or a name?
[03:22] <Kikkoman> Reboot + F8 doesn't work
[03:22] <mjunx> Roachclit, name
[03:22] <Kikkoman> Hmm
[03:22] <Toma-> Kikkoman: lets fix this grub problem.
[03:22] <Roachclit_> so where would I find my routers ESSID?
[03:22] <Kikkoman> Toma-:Let's
[03:23] <Roachclit> like right now I am no a windows pc if I do ipconfig/all
[03:23] <Toma-> Kikkoman: what boot loader are you getting? grub or windows?
[03:23] <mjunx> Roachclit_, it's the name that's broadcasted by the router
[03:23] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  is any app for local Lan chat? like trix or Vyqchat?
[03:23] <emcay> i had ubuntu 6.06
[03:23] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-, : c0z this One is not going fine :< and not working
[03:23] <Kikkoman> Toma-: GRUB
[03:23] <adrenalin1983> Can someone please help? I got responces to begin with, now nothing
[03:23] <Kikkoman> Hmm?
[03:23] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok, did you paste your menu.lst onto pastebin?
[03:24] <mjunx> I'm out of ideas, adrenalin1983 :P
[03:24] <adrenalin1983> hmm
[03:24] <Kikkoman> Toma-: That leads me to the internet problem
[03:24] <Kikkoman> Here
[03:24] <Kikkoman> I'll just copy it to this comp
[03:24] <Roachclit> Where would I find the ESSID of my router?
[03:24] <Kikkoman> and use this internet :P
[03:24] <Toma-> Kikkoman: clever ;D
[03:25] <Kikkoman> Toma-: By the way, when I'm in grub, it doesn't say Ubuntu 6.10
[03:25] <Toma-> Roachclit: from your routers setup page?
[03:25] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It says like Ubuntu Kernel 2.510 or someting
[03:25] <Kikkoman> +h
[03:25] <mjunx> Roachclit, you can try "sudo iwlist scan"
[03:25] <Toma-> wow... weird
[03:25] <adrenalin1983> could it possibly be something to do with the inbuilt network card in the laptop?
[03:26] <rwxr-xr--> damn with the x server not start :<
[03:26] <adrenalin1983> I believe its loading e100 module for the network card
[03:26] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: jabber would be useful...
[03:26] <adrenalin1983> I may be wrong
[03:26] <Roachclit> find out, thanks
[03:26] <emcay> anyone have that card or one similiar
[03:26] <adrenalin1983> It works fine when I boot to xp
[03:26] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-, i dont know how to use it :< how to configure it
[03:27] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  well where i can fine jabber?
[03:27] <z0rz> I'm using ubuntu as a gateway via iptables, but for some reason my network facing interface drops 50% of the packets (it's only did this recently and the only thing I've installed is ruby)
[03:27] <rwxr-xr--> *get
[03:27] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: ubuntu repos.
[03:27] <z0rz> I can ping google.com on the machine and not drop a packet .. but if I try to ping a computer on the internal network I get about 50% packety loss.. anyone know how I can go about trouble shooting this?
[03:27] <mjunx> get ejabberd
[03:27] <rwxr-xr--> !ejabberd
[03:27] <ubotu> ejabberd: Distributed, fault-tolerant Jabber/XMPP server written in Erlang. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1-8ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 787 kB, installed size 2256 kB
[03:28] <intelikey> anyone know enough about tzconfiguration to help me setup utc-5 ?
[03:28] <emcay> linksys wmp54gs
[03:28] <rwxr-xr--> mjunx, : ejabberd its for local lan chat?
[03:29] <mjunx> it's a jabber server
[03:29] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It won't install the windows networks support stuff
[03:29] <Toma-> Kikkoman: thank god...
[03:29] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Samba
[03:29] <Kikkoman> But how will I transfer the files to this computer
[03:29] <LabThug_hm> Google says Tiling Windows in Linux is a no-go.  Is that so?
[03:29] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok, is your home network running off static ips or DHCP?
[03:30] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Well I don't know
[03:30] <Guest23589> can you email them to yourself Toma-
[03:30] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I don't have a home network really
[03:30] <tier`> if my monitor is capable of 1280x1024 but under system - preferences - screen res. im only able to go up to 1024x768 can i just add 1280x1024 to xorg.conf and restart gnome?
[03:30] <cafuego_> LabThug_hm: 's a function of the window manager
[03:30] <mjunx> LabThug_hm, check out twm
[03:30] <Toma-> Guest23589: what?
[03:30] <cafuego_> LabThug_hm: I'm sure 75% of them cna do it, at least
[03:30] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I'll just type it on this comp
[03:30] <eavawter> try emailing the files to yourself .. then you can pick up the files from either computer
[03:30] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok :/
[03:31] <LabThug_hm> mjunx: I'm in KDE currently and would like to keep from restarting X if possible, thanks though
[03:31] <cafuego_> I'm pretty sure fvwm2 tiles by default
[03:31] <Toma-> eavawter: thats all well and good, but this persons PC has no internet.
[03:31] <grantgm> does anyone have any idea why the ubuntu startup sound is constantly repeating...and driving me insane...?
[03:31] <mjunx> LabThug_hm, windows snap to each other, so just drag 'em around I guess
[03:32] <eavawter> sorry Toma- .. trying to do 3 things at once and didn't see that .. I'll just be quiet for now
[03:32] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I have about 80 wpm :P
[03:32] <Toma-> :>
[03:32] <LabThug_hm> mjunx: manual tiling....yay!
[03:32] <intelikey> time zone   ?
[03:32] <Toma-> Kikkoman: i use 2 fingers :>
[03:32] <mjunx> well, LabThug_hm, press F1
[03:32] <jessie_the_jeste> hello. anybody else have the problem that .wma always seem to skip out at the beginning. probably the first six seconds. version 1.4.3
[03:32] <grantgm> does anyone know how to restart sound without rebooting?
[03:32] <mjunx> you want automatic tiling, LabThug_hm?
[03:33] <LabThug_hm> mjunx: F1 leads me to http://help.opera.com/Linux/9.10/en/index.html
[03:33] <Toma-> grantgm: it will involve a hung amount of rmmod and modprobes. reboot = easy.
[03:33] <jessie_the_jeste> grantgm, try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart. I havent been able to find one that let's me get my sound going after suspend though.
[03:33] <Toma-> *huge
[03:33] <towoer> how to play copied .flv files
[03:34] <mjunx> towoer, mplayer and vlc can
[03:34] <LabThug_hm> mjunx: no automatic, but a menu option to invoke it would be nice
[03:34] <towoer> mjunx: vlc and no any plugins
[03:34] <sigger_> which java thingy do I want so I can run java apps from firefox?
[03:34] <cables> sigger_, sun-java5-plugin
[03:34] <jessie_the_jeste> anybody else have the problem that .wma always seem to skip out at the beginning. probably the first six seconds. version 1.4.3
[03:34] <variant> LabThug_hm: there is a beryl hack that allows that iirc
[03:34] <grantgm> jessie_the_jeste: yea, that doesn't seem to do anything...i'm not sure why...
[03:35] <rwxr-xr--> i just install the jabber repo from synaptic package manager how can i run it or where is the shortcut of jabber?
[03:35] <towoer> jessie_the_jeste: may need win32 codecs
[03:35] <LabThug_hm> so, it doesn't come standard with KDE?
[03:35] <cables> rwxr-xr--, what are you trying to do with Jabber?
[03:35] <mjunx> towoer, vlc should play it by default
[03:35] <grantgm> but even "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop" doesn't stop the sound
[03:35] <towoer> mjunx thanks
[03:35] <jessie_the_jeste> towoer, i've got the win32 codecs. it just kindof skips the first bit.
[03:35] <sigger_> cables, thanks
[03:35] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Can I just skip to the good part
[03:35] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  through jabber i can chat on my local lan?
[03:35] <Toma-> Kikkoman: sure
[03:35] <jessie_the_jeste> grantgm, maybe not. thought itd try to help
[03:36] <Kikkoman> :D
[03:36] <mjunx> rwxr-xr--, yeah
[03:36] <cables> rwxr-xr--, so you're setting up your own server?
[03:36] <rwxr-xr--> no
[03:36] <grantgm> thanks anyways :)
[03:36] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  just want to connect with my running server
[03:36] <towoer> jessie_the_jeste: i've seed pretty good blogs how to play wma on mplayer
[03:36] <cables> rwxr-xr--, Gaim has Jabber support
[03:36] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  let me chk it
[03:37] <jessie_the_jeste> im using xine. any idea how to use mplayer or gstreamer?
[03:37] <cables> rwxr-xr--, if you've already got a server running, Gaim will work fine with it.
[03:37] <enderxim> Does anyone know how to use grub to boot a .iso file from an ext3 partition?
[03:38] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  what is the server tab there? my Server ?
[03:38] <cables> rwxr-xr--, put your server in the server box
[03:39] <rwxr-xr--> And the Resource?
[03:39] <cables> rwxr-xr--, that doesn't matter
[03:39] <cables> rwxr-xr--, leave it.
[03:39] <dredhammer> hello a newbie qustion how does one checkout a previous version of software via subvision instead of the latest svn version?
[03:39] <mjunx> svn co -r somerevision
[03:39] <zoonga> anyone know how to fix dhcp not receiving ip address ?
[03:39] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  its asking me for password ..
[03:40] <jessie_the_jeste> any other ideas?
[03:40] <cables> rwxr-xr--, are you running your own jabber server?
[03:40] <dredhammer> ok thanks mjunx
[03:40] <rwxr-xr--> no .. i m trying to link to my lAN server
[03:40] <cables> rwxr-xr--, so you're saying your lan has a Jabber server running on it.
[03:40] <cables> rwxr-xr--, do you have a password on that server?
[03:40] <towoer> as fare as i sure mplayer is not free on ubuntu reppositories
[03:41] <cables> !info mplayer
[03:41] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  no i d0nt have any password my LAn support just Mac/IP
[03:41] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[03:41] <mjunx> wow, that's an old version...
[03:41] <cables> rwxr-xr--, are you sure the chat server you're running on your LAN is Jabber?
[03:41] <towoer> multiverse is not whole free
[03:41] <cables> towoer, yep
[03:41] <towoer> :(
[03:41] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  i think may LAN server is not Running jabber server.
[03:41] <variant> towoer: mplayer is free software, it includes some support for formats that may/maynot be legal in some countries
[03:42] <cables> rwxr-xr--, so why are you trying to use jabbe?
[03:42] <cables> *jabber?
[03:42] <cables> !away | Miro_Offline
[03:42] <ubotu> Miro_Offline: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[03:42] <mjunx> mplayer has lots of patented algorithms in it (stupid, I know), so it's "non-free" because of that
[03:42] <rwxr-xr--> cables, someone told me that u can use jabber for lan chat.
[03:42] <rwxr-xr--> :<
[03:42] <cables> rwxr-xr--, well you need a server running...
[03:42] <mjunx> you can...
[03:42] <mjunx> well, what do you mean be "lan chat"?
[03:42] <towoer> i'm not sure but my problems begins sinse i ading any extra repositories exept main and universe
[03:43] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  okie man :< All things going fine dont know why trix going to create problem .. damn..
[03:43] <DisabledBobcat> I have an install.bin fine. How in the world can I install it?
[03:43] <variant> mjunx: it's free because it's completely gpl. if software patents are legal in your country thats another matter (mplayer is developed primarily by hungarians iirc)
[03:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, why can't you just use an Internet IM service? jabber.org has a free Jabber server...
[03:43] <mjunx> europeans in general at least
[03:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, if you want to run your own Jabber server, you can though.
[03:43] <mjunx> DisabledBobcat, try "sh install.bin"
[03:43] <variant> DisabledBobcat: in a terminal do chmod +x /path/to/instal.bin && sh /path/to/install.bin
[03:44] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  so if i run my own jabber server then i can chat with my LAN users ?
[03:44] <DisabledBobcat> mjunx: thank you very much
[03:44] <cables> rwxr-xr--, if they have jabber clients installed on their system, yes.
[03:44] <mjunx> rwxr-xr--, if your lan users register with your local jabber server, yes
[03:44] <DisabledBobcat> variant: thanks a million
[03:45] <rwxr-xr--> cables, sorry dude .. on my lAN there is just 3 users too use linux ..
[03:45] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  leave it man its not for me.
[03:45] <eavawter> well .. I'm certainly temped to go to another OS
[03:45] <mjunx> well, you could try talk
[03:45] <cables> rwxr-xr--, I'm curious, why can't you just use AIM or something like that?
[03:45] <cables> rwxr-xr--, or a public jabber server like jabber.org?
[03:46] <variant> or write
[03:46] <cables> rwxr-xr--, is your lan not internet-connected?
[03:46] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  its connected but .. no jabber is on any machine
[03:46] <Ubuntu_GRUB> Hi
[03:46] <cables> rwxr-xr--, I'm just wondering why you want an in-network chatt rather than something over the internet like AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Google Talk, public Jabber?
[03:47] <rwxr-xr--> hehe
[03:47] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I've typed it up
[03:47] <Kikkoman> Toma-: What do I do now
[03:47] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  some time .. if lan g0t d/c so we have fun on lan chat ;><
[03:47] <mjunx> !ask | eavawter
[03:47] <ubotu> eavawter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:47] <Toma-> !pastebin | Kikkoman
[03:47] <ubotu> Kikkoman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:47] <K3nto> xfce=unpleasantness
[03:47] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  in other words we xchange .. movies etc..
[03:48] <Dirkson> Hey all. Is there any easy way to fix my dependency tree? Any update to anything errors out on my system, and it keeps trying to upgrade to 6.10... Even though it's 6.10 I've got installed
[03:48] <mjunx> use ssh then?
[03:48] <eavawter> I have ubotu .. and I'm getting the royal run around
[03:48] <Vilhelms> Ugh I'm so tired of alsa messing up on me, how can I restart alsa without restarting my PC? I keep getting a 'device is busy' error :(
[03:48] <Hammwell> is there a command to manage running services like httpd and mysql? i am familiar with "services" command in redhat
[03:48] <mjunx> Dirkson, try a dist-upgrade
[03:48] <eavawter> not ALL ubuntu's fault
[03:48] <variant> Dirkson: run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:48] <cables> rwxr-xr--, can't you use file sharing and stuff for that? I don't think an IM client is what you want for file transfers within a network...
[03:48] <Dirkson> mjunx, Errors out
[03:48] <Ubuntu_GRUB> I installed Ubuntu Edgy Eft (6.10) and used the default option to install the GRUB boot loader to mbr.  When I select Windows XP Home Edition, it just stands there at "Starting up..." :(
[03:48] <Kikkoman> Toma-: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10426/
[03:48] <Kikkoman> Toma-: *Kikkoman Note* was added by me
[03:48] <mjunx> Dirkson, with what error specifically?
[03:48] <Kikkoman> Not actually in the file though
[03:49] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  no :) with trix or vyqchat.. just send file and Recive file.. and chat with local lan users easily its so easy.. u dont need to share any thing
[03:49] <mjunx> eavawter, well, I don't remember seeing your question, so ask again
[03:49] <variant> eavawter: please explain the issues, if you expect someone to help you
[03:49] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  i just use this 2 apps for local chat.
[03:49] <Dirkson> mjunx, variant, dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:49] <Dirkson> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[03:49] <jessie_the_jeste> anybody else have the problem that .wma always seem to skip out at the beginning. probably the first six seconds. version 1.4.3
[03:49] <variant> Dirkson: after running apt-get update?
[03:50] <variant> jessie_the_jeste: version 1.4.3 of what?
[03:50] <Dirkson> variant, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:50] <towoer> Ubuntu_GRUB: the same problom me, i removed XP whole
[03:50] <eavawter> I have a belkin router .. which WILL see my linux system trying to connect (as it shows an ip addy knocking at the door) but it won't connect .. either because of NAT or for some other reason
[03:50] <variant> Dirkson: sorry, no idea
[03:50] <mjunx> Dirkson, do an update then
[03:50] <Ubuntu_GRUB> =-O
[03:50] <Dirkson> variant, Gotcha. Seems to be the second command doing the problem
[03:50] <variant> eavawter: if you run sudo dhclient eth0 what happens?
[03:50] <Dirkson> mjunx, What sort of update?
[03:50] <eavawter> I'm trying to get my wireless card to work
[03:50] <Ubuntu_GRUB> towoer: my Wife does not use Ubuntu, that is not an option
[03:50] <mjunx> aptitude update
[03:51] <variant> Dirkson: try touch /var/lib/dpkg/available
[03:51] <variant> eavawter: i see
[03:51] <variant> eavawter: sorry, i have little to no experience of wifi
[03:51] <towoer> Ubuntu_GRUB : ubuntu and xp wont fit as dual boot by default :(
[03:51] <Ubuntu_GRUB> =-O
[03:51] <hosk> hey, firefox question: something about totem failing? i tried upgrading macromedia flash, it said it installed successfully, but i still get the message
[03:51] <mjunx> totem isn't flash ;p
[03:51] <Dirkson> mjunx, The apt-get/aptitude update completes fine, but doesn't seem to help the situation
[03:52] <Dirkson> variant, Trying.... This is working better.
[03:52] <mjunx> you can't dist-upgrade after that, Dirkson?
[03:52] <hosk> well, i got multiple errors
[03:52] <hosk> totem failing and that i should upgrade flash
[03:52] <Dirkson> mjunx, Nope, but variant's touch idea worked. ... I should really learn what touch does :D
[03:52] <mjunx> it creates a file if it doesn't exist
[03:52] <Toma-> Kikkoman: what happens when you choose windows from grub?
[03:52] <Vilhelms> Ugh, could someone help me with alsa problems? I keep getting device is busy!
[03:52] <mjunx> otherwise it updates the mtime
[03:53] <towoer> Ubuntu_grub: tray to play virtual xp
[03:53] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It looks as if it is going to boot
[03:53] <Kikkoman> Toma-: But it just goes back to GRUB
[03:53] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Within 2 seconds
[03:53] <Dirkson> mjunx, Gotcha. And updates last access time, if that's gotten messed up. Cool!
[03:53] <Ubuntu_GRUB> towoer: Virtual PC?
[03:53] <Toma-> no errors? does it get to the windows loader?
[03:53] <Kikkoman> No
[03:53] <Dirkson> mjunx, Anyway, it appears to be working now : )
[03:53] <Kikkoman> It goes straight to grub
[03:53] <Dirkson> variant, Thanks a lot : )
[03:53] <mjunx> great!
[03:53] <Kikkoman> erm
[03:54] <Kikkoman> Toma-: The Compaq loader comes on though, it has the system recovery option
[03:54] <towoer> Ubuntu_GRUB: use then knopix live cd
[03:54] <QMario> THANK GOD!!! THE PRINTING WORKS!!! NOW EVERYONE ON MY NETWORK CAN PRINT!!! I AM SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW!!! THANK GOD!!! :) :) :) THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE!!!
[03:54] <Ubuntu_GRUB> lol
[03:54] <eavawter> as long as my computer is hardwired to the system it's fine .. the eth1 tells me "the network is down"
[03:54] <Rapido> lolol
[03:54] <Kikkoman> LOL FAKE CAPS
[03:54] <Toma-> QMario: keep it to lower case next time :)
[03:55] <Ubuntu_GRUB> towoer: thanks
[03:55] <mjunx> !caps | QMario
[03:55] <ubotu> QMario: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:55] <QMario> Toma, sorry, but I am so relieved right now. :)
[03:55] <mjunx> you can bold things instead perhaps?
[03:55] <towoer> Ubunt_GRUB: np
[03:55] <Toma-> QMario: have a cup of tea and a good sit down. :)
[03:55] <Vilhelms> Can someone please tell me how to restart alsa, I keep getting a device is busy error
[03:55] <DiscoStu> hi there
[03:55] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Don't you mean coffee? :D
[03:55] <Toma-> thatsll just get him/her more excited
[03:56] <Kikkoman> Oh right
[03:56] <mjunx> Vilhelms,  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[03:56] <DiscoStu> still having trouble getting tightvncserver to run. can anyone help me fix its font problems?
[03:56] <Kikkoman> Toma-: So what can I do to fix GRUB?
[03:56] <mjunx> Kikkoman, grub-install again?
[03:56] <Toma-> Kikkoman: id say it might pay to install to MBR again and see if that helps.
[03:57] <eavawter> I'm trying to get my wireless connection to work .. I finally get the drivers loaded .. and now my router won't let it connect
[03:57] <Toma-> other than that, use the Compaq boot loader to fix it, then use another method of getting a boot loader up. either using the windows loader or the grub loader
[03:57] <mjunx> eavawter, what wireless card?
[03:58] <eavawter> it's a broadcom
[03:58] <mjunx> oh snap, I knew it
[03:58] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Compaq boot loader = only system recovery
[03:58] <mjunx> I propose we make an #ubuntu-broadcom channel
[03:58] <eavawter> but .. I got that working
[03:58] <brophat> how can i find out if an hp desktop works with ubuntu?
[03:58] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ahh ok.
[03:58] <mjunx> I don't know anything about broadcom NICs, sorry
[03:58] <hosk> so, right now ubuntu is on vpc2007; does vmware support 24bit color depth?  vpc does not, apparently
[03:58] <DiscoStu> I corrected the fontPath in /etc/vnc.conf to match the real directory structure in /usr/share/X11/fonts/ which didn't help
[03:58] <towoer> kismet didint workt with ipw2200 in monitor mode
[03:58] <mjunx> brophat, get a list of parts; if it's an intel machine, it probably all works fine
[03:59] <inanet> can anyone help me here? i instulled ubuntu working great, I tried to install proprietary drivers - now i cant see the gui. I can get to the prompt via recovery mode.. but how do i fix it?
[03:59] <inanet> ATI btw
[03:59] <Kikkoman> Toma-: How do I change it so I can use the Windows bootloader?
[03:59] <brophat> mjunx i thought amd worked better with linux
[03:59] <mjunx> well, cpu-wise, there's no difference in support
[03:59] <mjunx> but amd notebooks (and desktops?) tend to have crappy parts in them (e.g. broadcom-based wireless card, ati video card, etc.)
[04:00] <clarklinux> hello: i'm hung up in a xubuntu 6.10 installation on a newworld g3 powerbook (ppc), can anyone help?
[04:00] <mjunx> try #xubuntu clarklinux?
[04:00] <brophat> mjunx but when you but a pre-fab puter you usually can't get the details of the parts down to the specificty you need to in order to determine if it is linux compatible, can you?
[04:00] <Toma-> Kikkoman: use the windows xp install disk to get to the resuce system/terminal and run 'fixmbr'
[04:00] <brophat> mjunx ism
[04:00] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Lol, it was preinstalled ;A;
[04:00] <mjunx> brophat, not sure, but you can probably check the hardware compatibility lists
[04:00] <Toma-> gah.
[04:01] <Toma-> still should have an OEM disk with i?
[04:01] <Toma-> *it
[04:01] <Kikkoman> Erm
[04:01] <Kikkoman> It didn't come with one
[04:01] <brophat> mjunx isn't there a place that lists ppls luck with ubuntu on certain boxes?
[04:01] <mjunx> wiki.ubuntu.com somewhere
[04:01] <amicrawler> where are the start up items for kde
[04:01] <mjunx> amicrawler, ~/.kde/Autostart/
[04:01] <Toma-> Kikkoman: damn lazy PC builders. ok looks like we're gonna need to use grub to fix this one
[04:01] <brophat> ok thanks will do
[04:01] <Kikkoman> Ok
[04:02] <clarklinux> mjunx: sorry, thought i wasin it haha
[04:02] <towoer> ipw2200 does not wirking with kismet on monitor mode :(
[04:02] <lucky_> anyone know a program to cut sections from a DVD?
[04:02] <mjunx> clarklinux, eh? too much stuff going on
[04:03] <amicrawler> there is nothing there
[04:03] <mjunx> lucky_, mencoder can do that
[04:03] <amicrawler> but kde start very slow
[04:03] <shellsage> anyone have an idea on how to *disable* a usb device?  specifically a wireless keyboard?
[04:03] <Kikkoman> shellsage: unplug it :D
[04:03] <eavawter> thanks for your help everyone .. but I need a break .. been doing this for over 8 hrs .. be back later
[04:03] <towoer> shellsage: just unmount :)
[04:03] <shellsage> Kikkoman, my girlfriend's receiver is picking up my wireless keyboard, and I can't switch channels
[04:04] <shellsage> towoer, funny
[04:04] <amicrawler> mjunx  what will slow kde from running right
[04:04] <Kikkoman> Hmm
[04:04] <Kikkoman> I don't know, sorry, I'm a super-newb
[04:04] <Kikkoman> :D newb, I haven't heard that for a while
[04:04] <mjunx> amicrawler, if you've got a bunch of programs open when you log out, those get started again
[04:04] <towoer> shellsage: or safely reject
[04:04] <amicrawler> how do i stop all the programs
[04:05] <amicrawler> from running
[04:05] <Kikkoman> Toma-: How do I get GRUB to fix it?
[04:05] <Toma-> Kikkoman: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html
[04:05] <brophat> ubunut for amd64 is stable?
[04:05] <shellsage> towoer, what?
[04:05] <Toma-> Kikkoman: thatll be "sudo grub" tho
[04:05] <mjunx> brophat, yeah
[04:05] <Kikkoman> erm
[04:05] <Kikkoman> Can I get step by step instructions
[04:05] <inanet> any suggestions on how to fix my display drivers? or to install the standard ubuntu ones?
[04:05] <Kikkoman> I really can't mess this up
[04:06] <amicrawler> where are thoes files mjunx
[04:06] <Toma-> Kikkoman: read it... it has step by step instructions
[04:06] <Kikkoman> Ok
[04:06] <towoer> Kikkoman: google appears to be you friend
[04:06] <jessie_the_jeste> i hate you
[04:06] <Berto2> what's the ubuntu package to run/install for setting up X11?  My mouse is doing weird things
[04:06] <amicrawler> is it  ~/home/user/lib/?????
[04:06] <nu-> Hey guys. Im back. who remembers me? i was gettin help with the issue of installing ubuntu with 8800gtx
[04:06] <mjunx> amicrawler, not sure
[04:07] <nu-> i now have a log and xorg.conf
[04:07] <b00gz> Berto2: How are you liking Verizon FIOS?
[04:07] <nu-> had to copy and ftp it
[04:07] <Kikkoman> Toma-: What will be the result of me following those instructions *say I do everything correct*
[04:07] <mjunx> yeah we remember you
[04:07] <nu-> ok
[04:07] <nu-> someone asked to view the log file
[04:07] <amicrawler> so if i run gnome  apps  will i need to run gnome  my main gui is kde 3.5.5
[04:07] <nu-> http://paste2.org/p/1878  <-- log
[04:08] <nu-> the error is "no screens found"
[04:08] <Toma-> Kikkoman: youll have grub installed on MBR then we can start getting to the nitty gritty of the windows problem
[04:08] <Kikkoman> Ah
[04:08] <cyris> anyone know where i could find a ldap schema file for vpopmail ? i'm not configuring vpopmail for ldap atm, just wanna look at the object classes and attributes.
[04:08] <mobiGeek> morning folks!
[04:08] <mjunx> evening, mobiGeek
[04:08] <Cryoniq> !iso
[04:08] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:09] <mobiGeek> trying to start apache2, I get the following:     /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: line 78:  7368 Segmentation fault      $HTTPD -k start -DSSL
[04:09] <mobiGeek> any suggestions?
[04:09] <nu-> i dont think ubuntu suppots 8800gtx
[04:09] <mobiGeek> I've tried manually running /usr/sbin/apache2 start, but it also segfaults.
[04:09] <mjunx> mobiGeek, maybe you don't have ssl installed for apache?
[04:09] <mjunx> or enabled via mod_ssl or something
[04:10] <Toma-> nu-: sure it does
[04:10] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Do I need to make a GRUB disk?
[04:10] <mobiGeek> mjunx: even running without -DSSL, it segfaults
[04:10] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Because GRUB is already installed
[04:10] <mjunx> dunno then, check your config files for syntax errors
[04:10] <Kikkoman> It works just fine
[04:10] <nitalaut> hello guys
[04:10] <Kikkoman> Except for booting windows
[04:10] <Kikkoman> :P
[04:10] <stuporglue> Anyone know if BulletProofX made it into Feisty?
[04:10] <nitalaut> i'm trying to put data from full mysql backup back into mysql...is this mysql -u admin -p -A </opt/backup_new/mysqldump20070415.sql the right command ??
[04:10] <mjunx> or if you can run it under gdb, you can find where it segfaults
[04:10] <Toma-> Kikkoman: no, just making sure its on the master boot
[04:10] <mobiGeek> but shouldn't apache2 report an error in the config?
[04:10] <mjunx> stuporglue, ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:10] <Kikkoman> Toma-: So how do I check?
[04:11] <Toma-> nu-: youll need the new nvidia drivers. try using envy
[04:11] <Toma-> !envy | nu-
[04:11] <ubotu> nu-: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[04:11] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Sorry that I'm such a noob at this :D It's a whole new operating system though
[04:11] <stuporglue> mjunx: thanks
[04:12] <garfield9> help!  i just got my Wifi working using ndiswrapper but I still have some lagging probems --> when I do "iwlist scanning" it can see my home network but refuses to connect using wlan0.  I tried manually entering the ESSID etc. but nothing is responding...any ideas?
[04:12] <Toma-> Kikkoman: im not sure how to check where grub is installed...
[04:13] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Hmm... Let's do the internet first then
[04:13] <Dirkson> Hey all. My girlfriend want control+a bound to "select all". Is there an easy way to do this?
[04:13] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I have Networking open
[04:13] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I have Wired Connection selected
[04:13] <jrib> Dirkson: that's already the case, what program specifically isn't working?
[04:14] <Dirkson> jrib, Curious. Any program, as near as I can tell.
[04:14] <Kikkoman> Now how do I make the darned thing work?
[04:14] <nu-> Toma-: thank you
[04:14] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok. now. you need to findout if your router is using DHCP. open up your routers web config page with another computer
[04:14] <Toma-> nu-: np
[04:14] <jrib> Dirkson: how about... gedit?
[04:14] <Dirkson> jrib, I did install some custom Japanese input method thingies. Perhaps one of those is conflicting.
[04:14] <jrib> Dirkson: maybe
[04:14] <Dirkson> jrib, Nope, doesn't work in gedit.
[04:14] <inanet> can anyone tell me how to reinstall the standard ati driver that comes with ubuntu?
[04:14] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It's open
[04:15] <jrib> Dirkson: when you go to the edit menu, does it say "ctrl-a" next to "select all"?
[04:15] <Berto2> b00gz, hhahahaha hey quit sniping me
[04:15] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ive got no idea how to find it out from there. try finding a DHCP button somewhere and see if its enabled
[04:15] <Berto2> b00gz, but yeah it's un-freaken-believable.  just moved to redondo beach in jan and love fiber
[04:15] <mobiGeek> is there an apt- command I can use to "re-install" apache2 ?
[04:15] <Kikkoman> Toma-: There is a DCHP release button
[04:15] <cafuego_> apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[04:16] <Toma-> Kikkoman: anything connected via DHCP?
[04:16] <Kikkoman> Toma-: And a disabled DCHP Renew button
[04:16] <Dirkson> jrib, Aye, it is the japanese input thingie. She wants me to disable it anyway... She wants to use a windows-specific program instead of the open source one.... I fail to see the difference, other than the windows-specific makes my life harder.
[04:16] <jrib> mobiGeek: sudo aptitude reinstall apache2-common  is probably what you want though it won't accomplish much most of the time
[04:16] <johan_> hillo can i use 'shutdown -r' and specify into what system to reboot: system listed in grub menu.lst
[04:16] <jrib> Dirkson: heh, well gl with that :)
[04:16] <Kikkoman> Toma-: There is a section called WAN that says Connection type: DCHP
[04:16] <nu-> Toma-: i dont think i can use envy, because X won't start
[04:16] <Toma-> Kikkoman: im here for another 5 mins then i have to go :/
[04:16] <flafla> does anyone else here think beryl is causing their ubuntu to become unstable?
[04:16] <nu-> and i i see there hat it's a GUI app
[04:16] <Kikkoman> Oh
[04:17] <Toma-> nu-: theres a text based version too
[04:17] <jrib> flafla: beryl is unstable
[04:17] <johan_> when i do 'shutdown -r' it reboots into default
[04:17] <Toma-> nu-: you just run it with 'envy -t'
[04:17] <nu-> Toma-: gotcha. thanks
[04:17] <Toma-> np
[04:17] <flafla> jrib:  so is that a yes?  cause I think ubuntu becomes very unstable for me at times, and I think it's caused by beryl
[04:17] <cafuego_> flafla: Of course it is.
[04:17] <cafuego_> flafla: beryl is full of bugs
[04:18] <Toma-> Kikkoman: just try setting the IP settings in Netowrk settings to "DHCP"
[04:18] <Toma-> if it fails, you dont have DHCP enabled on your router
[04:18] <flafla> cafuego_: tx  I just keeping beryl installed and just having it off is good enough
[04:19] <Mithology> hey guys, got a question if someone doesnt care to answer it for me
[04:19] <N6REJ> would someone mind clearing up a tiny confusion I have with NFS vs Samba.  Do I need both or is simply NFS enough?
[04:19] <hartubuntu> hmm i have a question: i have the boot cd for ubuntu, i boot off of it and i select "start or install ubuntu", then the screen just goes black and a white curser blinks in the top left of the screen and stays there for a long time while the cd drive is doing nothing... has anyone seen any error like this?
[04:19] <Mithology> im new to ubuntu, but am deciding to run it on my main pc, i have iso's for both 6.06 and 6.10
[04:19] <Mithology> which should i go with ?
[04:19] <aegisthis> heyo
[04:20] <brophat> do you think it is a good chance that ubuntu will work on an HP computer?
[04:20] <Toma-> 6.10
[04:20] <Dr_willis> hartubuntu,  badly burnt cd.. or some some sort of currupted iso file issue. most likely
[04:20] <Mithology> my main concern is software differences
[04:20] <Kevin> hartubuntu, that doesnt sound normal
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Mithology,  use 6.10
[04:20] <Mithology> Toma-, ah okay, thanks for the advice man
[04:20] <N6REJ> its not, probably a bad iso
[04:20] <hartubuntu> hmm yeah i didn't think it seemed normal
[04:20] <Mithology> cool, then its done, ill install it on there now ;P
[04:20] <Kevin> when i put my dick in and click start or install it goes to a live desktop, then you click the icon install
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Mithology,  what sort of pc? you dont need to use the 64bit ubuntu, on 64bit cpu's (just in case you are thinking that)
[04:20] <flafla> is there a stable version of beryl available for ubuntu?
[04:20] <Kevin> lol
[04:20] <aegisthis> is the gnome 2.18 package available yet? and from where?
[04:20] <N6REJ> do a md5-sum check after redl the iso
[04:21] <Mithology> Dr_willis, nah, this is just a p4 2.4 box
[04:21] <hartubuntu> ok i'll try another burn, i used alcohol for this disc, do you guys have any better programs to burn iso's?
[04:21] <Mithology> ive got 6.06 on this box atm
[04:21] <Mithology> os[Linux 2.6.15-26-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 997MHz]  mem[Physical : 121MB, 47.8% free]  disk[Total : 18.01GB, 82.70% Free]  video[Intel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] ]  sound[ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2] 
[04:21] <N6REJ> kevin? check your typing :P
[04:21] <Toma-> flafla: you can get 0.2.0 working with the deryl repos...
[04:21] <Kevin> yeah i saw that
[04:21] <Mithology> i got a bunch of free dell workstations
[04:21] <Mithology> from an office that had upgraded everything
[04:21] <Mithology> so i ended up with like 3 p3 boxes and p4 box
[04:21] <Mithology> i dont mind playing around with os's on those, but id like to get my main box back up and running
[04:22] <Mithology> i was just wondering about the software repositories
[04:22] <Toma-> sorry folks, im out.
[04:22] <Mithology> i wasnt sure if .06 had more software
[04:22] <Mithology> or what
[04:22] <Kevin> anyone know how to get a game controller operating under ubuntu?
[04:23] <N6REJ> Mithology: remember ubuntu is linux so if it will run in linux and the hw meets the minimum requirements it should run fine.
[04:23] <ubuntu-user> could someone help me? I dont quite understand how to restore my grub boot menu. I installed vista and I need to reinstall grub to get to my linux, and windows
[04:23] <h1st0> !grub | ubuntu-user
[04:23] <ubotu> ubuntu-user: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:23] <Mithology> N6REJ, yes, but one of the things appealing about ubuntu was the repositories
[04:23] <Mithology> at least to me
[04:23] <h1st0> ubuntu-user: the first link is the one you are looking for from ubotu recovering ubuntuafterinstallingwindows
[04:24] <Mithology> ubuntu seemed to have more interesting generic software in its repositories than say mdv with its urpmi stuff
[04:24] <N6REJ> Mithology: sure, I understand that completely.  Get the DVD edition of 6.06 if your concerned about losing software.
[04:24] <Mithology> N6REJ, okay, but in general, its all available through synaptic right ?
[04:25] <N6REJ> then you've got both.  The dvd edition has MUCH more available then normal cd.
[04:25] <N6REJ> yep
[04:25] <Mithology> awesome
[04:25] <N6REJ> just add the extra repos
[04:25] <Mithology> N6REJ, using the "Software Sources" utilities ?
[04:25] <Mithology> erm utility
[04:25] <N6REJ> !easy|Mithology
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <N6REJ> !easy-source
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy-source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <N6REJ> grrrrr
[04:25] <N6REJ> !repos
[04:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:26] <N6REJ> !easysource|mithology
[04:26] <ubotu> mithology: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:26] <Mithology> ah even better
[04:26] <ardchoille> N6REJ: It's !easysource
[04:26] <Mithology> i was hoping there was a site like that,i used easyurpmi for mdv
[04:26] <N6REJ> yep
[04:27] <N6REJ> any nfs/samba guru's around?
[04:28] <Kikkoman> Would someone be so kind as to help me with GRUB?
[04:28] <aegisthis> is the gnome 2.18 package available yet? and from where?
[04:29] <Kikkoman> I can't access Windows XP any more
[04:29] <Kikkoman> So obviously something is wrong ;A;
[04:29] <mjunx> aegisthis, gnome.org
[04:29] <mjunx> compile from source :P
[04:29] <Tonren> How do I un-keep all held back packages in Aptitude?
[04:30] <aegisthis> mjunx, so no official ubuntu package available?
[04:30] <mjunx> not yet, check back tomorrow maybe?
[04:30] <aegisthis> sweet as, thanx much
[04:30] <N6REJ> !grub | Kikkoman
[04:30] <ubotu> Kikkoman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:30] <Kikkoman> No no no
[04:30] <Kikkoman> It's not that
[04:30] <Kikkoman> I've lost Windows after installing GRUB
[04:31] <Kikkoman> erm Ubuntu
[04:31] <wheels3572> Where can i get adobe acrobat reader?
[04:31] <Kikkoman> I mean, when I select Windows XP Home Edition, it changes the screen, loads like, 2 lines of text, and then goes back to the GRUB menu
[04:31] <wheels3572> !adobe
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: ubuntu will become the default boot OS after installing... to get to xp you have to quickly ( 5 seconds ) hit the down arrow
[04:31] <N6REJ> possibly several times.
[04:31] <wheels3572> !acrobat reader
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: oh!
[04:32] <mjunx> !crobat
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: It's not that. I mean, I literally cannot access windows
[04:32] <mjunx> !carobat
[04:32] <Kikkoman> :D
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about carobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <N6REJ> gotcha now.
[04:32] <mjunx> well screw that
[04:32] <Kikkoman> Yeah
[04:32] <N6REJ> IF and thats a CAPITAL IF I'm remembering right this happens when you don't have a "/boot" partition.
[04:32] <Tonren> Anyone?  I feel like this shouldn't be hard.  I told Aptitude to "keep" some packages because the latest updates were unstable.  How do I tell it to "unkeep" stuff?
[04:33] <N6REJ> reinstall and make sure you assign a partition of around 200mb as "/boot"
[04:33] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: I have a /boot folder with /grub in it
[04:33] <N6REJ> yes, but is it a seperate parition?
[04:33] <N6REJ> or just /
[04:33] <Kikkoman> N6REJ, It may help to say that Ubuntu is on the slave drive while Windows is the master.
[04:34] <Kikkoman> I have about 7 gb of Unallocated space on the master
[04:34] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: this doesn't matter EXCEPT, you MUST have a "/boot" partition in that configuration and GRUB MUST live in the windows boot partition.
[04:34] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: you only need about 200mb and it doesn't matter where it lives.
[04:34] <Style-FilipBole> in minicom, under the configuration->serial port setup->Serial Device, what mean that /dev/tty8?
[04:34] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Umm... How do I check the partitions?
[04:35] <N6REJ> !boot
[04:35] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:35] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: And I said for GRUB to be installed on hd(0,1) which is the Windows partition
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Style-FilipBole,  thats the name of the serial device to use.   like the old com1 com2 of dos days
[04:35] <N6REJ> !dualboot | Kikkoman
[04:35] <brophat> is it true that we have to stay away from  ATI Radeon graphics cards?
[04:35] <N6REJ> read through those and they will likely explain it better then I am.
[04:36] <mjunx> brophat, you should, yeah
[04:36] <cyris> 1 month then 5.10 = by by hah
[04:36] <Dr_willis> brophat,  they can work and work ok.. but it is often a gamble.
[04:36] <wheels3572> jrib, hey do you know anything about Adobe acrobat reader?
[04:36] <h1st0> brophat: You don't have to stay away from them. Wre di you hear that.
[04:36] <N6REJ> cyris: god I'm getting old, I remember when it was the latest
[04:36] <Dr_willis> brophat,  they are getting better...  but still lacking in some areas.
[04:36] <h1st0> brophat: its just more of a pita to get them working.
[04:36] <cyris> N6REJ: 18 months old then eh ?
[04:36] <cyris> :D
[04:36] <N6REJ> lol
[04:36] <brophat> h1st0 i heard drivers only exist for nvidia stuff
[04:36] <Style-FilipBole> Dr_willis: aha, tnx... and what should be writen, if I want to set on com1?
[04:36] <N6REJ> cyris: I stated with RH 4
[04:36] <cliff> is ubotu borked?
[04:37] <N6REJ> borked?
[04:37] <cliff> broken.
[04:37] <N6REJ> nah
[04:37] <N6REJ> tired
[04:37] <cliff> anyone know the name of the meta packaged to get gcc and such.
[04:37] <Mithology> !easysource
[04:37] <h1st0> brophat: well better drivers exist for nvidia stuff but it is possible to install ati drivers.  Basically if you are looking at buying a card for nix.  I would go with nvidia.  Just based on were the driver development is geing done.
[04:37] <cliff> something build essentials
[04:37] <N6REJ> its having a caffiene withdrawl
[04:37] <cyris> N6REJ: rh 7 for me :P
[04:38] <h1st0> brophat: plus they are cheaper in most cases
[04:38] <N6REJ> cliff build-essentials if I remember right
[04:38] <adjioev> is there  a taskbar similar to mac for ubuntu?
[04:38] <h1st0> cliff: no ubotu is working fine.
[04:38] <cyris> build-essential
[04:38] <cliff> N6REJ: thanks, i was being dumb I thought there was more to it then that. aptitude search before I ask next time.
[04:38] <brophat> ok this is my problem. I have recently talked my brother into using ubuntu. I always make my own box so i pic my parts to make sure it is optomized for linux. My bro wants to buy an hp desktop but wants to makre sure first that it will work with ubuntu. How do we do that?
[04:38] <N6REJ> adious_: there can be yes
[04:38] <N6REJ> cliff np, we all have those days
[04:38] <cliff> h1st0: ive asked 2 questions and gotten nothing from him. oh maybe I need a voice. thanks
[04:39] <h1st0> brophat: there is a hardware list in the wiki some where.
[04:39] <crusoe> Need help getting Audigy working?
[04:39] <N6REJ> brophat: if its a new system it should be fine!
[04:39] <N6REJ> !hardware
[04:39] <h1st0> brophat: search wiki.ubuntu.com for hardware compatibility  or somehting like that.
[04:39] <adjioev> guys, is there  a taskbar similar to mac for ubuntu?
[04:39] <beta[a] > hey guys... i have several questions before i decide to install ubuntu
[04:39] <h1st0> !ask | beta[a] 
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Style-FilipBole,  i aint used a modem in years..  im not sure how the com devices are enmuerated any more.. used to be /dev/ttyS0 and up.
[04:39] <brophat> I am not finding hardwre compat sites that list entire systems
[04:39] <N6REJ> adjioev: as I said yes, it requires some reasearch
[04:39] <beta[a] > first off... i have an nvidia card...  does ubuntu have nvidia accelleration for X?
[04:39] <VoX> beta[a] : yes
[04:40] <philoking> hello...got a beryl question for ya...
[04:40] <beta[a] > b/c i'm using suse
[04:40] <adjioev> N6REJ, sorry probably missed your post
[04:40] <N6REJ> brophat: look at the individual pieces from HP's site but as a general rule, np
[04:40] <beta[a] > and i have nvidia's drivers
[04:40] <h1st0> beta[a] : yes if you instal drivers.  Basiclaly instal the nvidia-glx package
[04:40] <philoking> why do I have to edit the xorg.conf and stuff to install beryl on ubuntu, I don't have to on fedora
[04:40] <beta[a] > GREAT
[04:40] <Dr_willis> beta[a] ,  you can install the nvidia drivers and get it.. yes..
[04:40] <Mithology> is beryl automatically installed by default ?
[04:40] <brophat> N6REJ ok
[04:40] <N6REJ> cliff:  ubuto is definetly on strike!
[04:40] <beta[a] > also...  how about upgrading the kernel...
[04:40] <beta[a] > apt-get kernel?
[04:40] <VoX> Mithology: no
[04:40] <brophat> N6REJ just that they don't specify too detailed there
[04:40] <Mithology> VoX, i didnt think so
[04:40] <Mithology> but its found in synaptic right ?
[04:40] <brophat> they just say DVD Player hahahaha
[04:40] <Dr_willis> beta[a] ,  what kernel do you need to upgrade to?
[04:40] <beta[a] > cuz i wanna run 2.6.20-3 for my core 2 duo
[04:40] <beta[a] > SMP support
[04:40] <h1st0> beta[a] : as long as you stay updated you wil have the most current kernel for that release
[04:41] <beta[a] > suse has a problem
[04:41] <beta[a] > with dual procs
[04:41] <VoX> er
[04:41] <h1st0> beta[a] : if you wnt to install a newer kernel thats another story just like in any other distro.
[04:41] <Dr_willis> smp is in the default kernel i belive
[04:41] <h1st0> beta[a] : nah smp support will work out of the box.
[04:41] <h1st0> Dr_willis: yes
[04:41] <VoX> beta[a] : i've got a dual-core opteron and it's running fine on 2.17.something
[04:41] <h1st0> Dr_willis: generic kernel has smp support built in.
[04:41] <beta[a] > well it did on suse... until i recompiled the kernel
[04:41] <beta[a] > and trust me... i know what i'm doing when it comes to that
[04:41] <N6REJ> brophat: here's the general golden rule fo r*nix.. if its running cutting edge hardware you will have problems.  If its running hardware 6-12 mo old, probably ok, greater then 12mo sb a no brainer.
[04:41] <h1st0> beta[a] : You won't have to with ubuntu.
[04:41] <ricky_> anyone knoe the lib that has the command play?
[04:41] <beta[a] > it just failed misserably and wouldn't recognize my second core
[04:42] <beta[a] > and all kernel options for SMP were enabled in suse...
[04:42] <beta[a] > that's why i'm just tired of it
[04:42] <N6REJ> beta[a] : there is a smp kernel
[04:42] <h1st0> beta[a] : nah ubuntu's generic kernel has support for SMP built in.
[04:42] <beta[a] > especially after recompiling the kernel under suse... always getting invalid module format on boot
[04:42] <VoX> heh
[04:42] <VoX> suse=fail
[04:42] <beta[a] > i know that
[04:42] <beta[a] > i was using it
[04:43] <beta[a] > and funny thing... out of the box suse install it worked
[04:43] <beta[a] > for dual proc
[04:43] <h1st0> beta[a] : you can always boot to the install cd and check it out prior to instaling.
[04:43] <N6REJ> there's great idea, take the cd with you!
[04:43] <beta[a] > and then after compiling ndiswrapper for the kernel (inserting the module) and inserting nvidia into the kernel... dual proc stopped working
[04:43] <ricky_> anyone know the library's name that has the command play? to play music on the shell
[04:43] <Style-FilipBole> Dr_willis: ah ok ok... I want to connect on my ipaq for instal familiar... and it can be done only throgh serial connection :|
[04:43] <beta[a] > what window manager do you recommend?
[04:43] <brophat> N6REJ yeah i kind of know that rule. what do you think a cheap HP puter is running?
[04:43] <h1st0> beta[a] : ubuntu doesn't work that way.
[04:43] <beta[a] > i'm used to GNOME + xgl on suse
[04:43] <h1st0> beta[a] : yeah use gnome then
[04:44] <beta[a] > but i want beryl
[04:44] <h1st0> beta[a] : ubuntu desktop
[04:44] <h1st0> beta[a] : thats fine you can get beryl running on gnome
[04:44] <N6REJ> dunno, been out of the hardware game a long time.
[04:44] <beta[a] > ok ok...
[04:44] <beta[a] > see... i mainly use slackware or bsd for my installs...  b/c i do commandline stuff
[04:44] <h1st0> beta[a] : basically after you install just install the nvidia-glx package that will get your video card working.
[04:44] <Kikkoman> GRUB fail
[04:44] <Kikkoman> ;A;
[04:44] <beta[a] > linux has changed a WHOLE BUNCH
[04:44] <N6REJ> yep!
[04:44] <martalli1> My comp has a firewire card, but ubuntu does not seem to see it.  I checked BIOS and it is on.  Windows cxan see it
[04:44] <brophat> N6REJ ppl here mostly build there own?
[04:44] <h1st0> beta[a] : yeapers
[04:44] <beta[a] > since i used it last as a desktop OS
[04:44] <nick_> i tried to install the audio driver off the ASUS website and it totally screwed my sound up can someone help me get it back to default
[04:44] <beta[a] > i use it on all my servers
[04:44] <beta[a] > so no need for X
[04:44] <beta[a] > :)
[04:45] <brophat> anyone here running ubuntu on an HP desktop they wanna tell me about?
[04:45] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Do you know how I can change the MBR?
[04:45] <N6REJ> brophat: thats kind of the *nix way yeah, but I would say its a pretty close split these days.
[04:45] <beta[a] > and one more question...
[04:45] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: To use the Windows boot loader
[04:45] <Dr_willis> brophat,  given the shear # of varity of pc's that HP makes.. thats rather broad and general.. :)
[04:45] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: I would reinstall
[04:45] <beta[a] > i use ndiswrapper b/c i dont have support for my dell wifi 1500 (802.11n) card...
[04:45] <beta[a] > support in ubuntu?
[04:45] <tracy> is it possible that i can make my taskbars hide?
[04:45] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Can you guide me through the install this time?
[04:45] <h1st0> N6REJ: what is he trying to do?
[04:45] <cables> After I resume from standby or hibernate, my system runs hotter than it did before I put it in standby/hibernate. Any ideas why, and if so, how I could fix it/
[04:45] <h1st0> Kikkoman: is windows installed first?
[04:46] <N6REJ> h1st0: it didn't make a boot part and can't get xp to load
[04:46] <brophat> Dr_willis HP Pavilion a1520e series
[04:46] <Kikkoman> H1st0: Yes, it is on master
[04:46] <yipe> is there a way to make it so that when I type it's ALWAYS insert mode? I hate when I try to wedge somting in and it overwrites what I had previously written
[04:46] <Dr_willis> brophat,  may want to google for 'linux hp a1520e' and see what others say about it.
[04:46] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Ubuntu is on slave
[04:46] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay well to fix xp boot to the xp cd and go to repair mode.  then type in fixmbr
[04:46] <beta[a] > suse as a desktop OS is TOO BULKY
[04:46] <beta[a] > and everyone keeps harping on ubuntu...
[04:46] <h1st0> Kikkoman: That will get xp working.
[04:46] <brophat> Dr_willis yeah tried that. i was hoping ubuntu had some kind of a list going
[04:47] <beta[a] > if i dont like ubuntu as the desktop OS, i'm gonna go back to FreeBSD
[04:47] <h1st0> Kikkoman: and if you want to fix grub just follow the link from ubotu
[04:47] <h1st0> !grub | Kikkoman
[04:47] <ubotu> Kikkoman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:47] <Kikkoman> h1st0: I have no XP cd, the computer didn't come with one
[04:47] <nick_> i tried to install the audio driver off the ASUS website and it totally screwed my sound up can someone help me get it back to default
[04:47] <Kikkoman> That link does no good to me
[04:47] <brophat> any one here running ubuntu on HP Pavilion a1520e ?
[04:47] <yipe> Berto, not really the place for that, try #ubuntu-offtopic,
[04:47] <h1st0> Kikkoman: well then follow the first link from ubotu about recovering
[04:47] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yes it does.
[04:47] <N6REJ> #join /kubuntu
[04:47] <N6REJ> grrrrrrr
[04:47] <Kikkoman> No, it doesn't
[04:48] <beta[a] > so this apt-get stuff in ubuntu is like emerge for gentoo, right?
[04:48] <h1st0> Kikkoman: basically you have to boot to ubuntu install disk.  and reinstall grub.
[04:48] <Dr_willis> brophat,  given the shear # of pcs out there. :) there is a laptop forum. but
[04:48] <Dr_willis> beta[a] ,  its like apt-get :)
[04:48] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[04:48] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:48] <beta[a] > you know what i mean
[04:48] <tracy> is it possible that i can make my taskbars hide?
[04:48] <beta[a] > and i just want a nice, clean, os
[04:48] <yipe> beta[a] , yes, except without actually compiling the code again, instead you download and install a binary
[04:48] <nick_> tracy: yes
[04:48] <brophat> Dr_willis yeah looking for a desktop forum
[04:48] <h1st0> beta[a] : not really emerge you are building the packages with apt-get its downloading pakcages that are already built
[04:48] <nick_> right click pick properties then
[04:49] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: I have the ubuntu cd in
[04:49] <tracy> ahh, i see it now!
[04:49] <nick_> then autohide
[04:49] <tracy> i must have overlooked, thanks nick_
[04:49] <h1st0> beta[a] : if you install a DE then you can use synaptic and just search for packages with a gui etc..
[04:49] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Should I reinstall Ubuntu onto master HDD?
[04:49] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Or should I use the option that says "Boot from first Hard Disk"
[04:49] <beta[a] > i dont need a gui
[04:49] <beta[a] > lol
[04:49] <h1st0> beta[a] : like I say download the ubuntu desktop iso if thats what you are after.  Then just boot to it as a live cd and check it out.
[04:50] <beta[a] > i installed ubuntu before... did not like the default install..
[04:50] <beta[a] > too brown
[04:50] <Kikkoman> oh
[04:50] <Kikkoman> He's not here
[04:50] <h1st0> beta[a] : well then you need to the server install iso if you don't want de
[04:50] <yipe> I bet you didn't like the default for FreeBSD either, colors are easily changed
[04:50] <Kikkoman> Can anyone help me through the Ubuntu install?
[04:50] <Pelo> beta[a] ,   try kubuntu , it's very blue
[04:50] <h1st0> Kikkoman: sure
[04:50] <h1st0> Kikkoman: You have windows installed on the first drive right?
[04:50] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Yes
[04:50] <beta[a] > LOL
[04:51] <Dr_willis> beta[a] ,  OH the humanity of it all.. its brown... egads! its the end of the world...  /scarasm off :)
[04:51] <h1st0> Kikkoman: and you just want to install to the second drive.
[04:51] <h1st0> Pelo: lol
[04:51] <beta[a] > i like the pretty colors
[04:51] <beta[a] > of suse
[04:51] <beta[a] > hhehe
[04:51] <beta[a] > but like i said - it's too bulky
[04:51] <Dr_willis> this is linux.. use what you like.. change what you dont.
[04:51] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Eh, I'll just put it on the same HDD as windows if it is any easier to dual boot
[04:51] <h1st0> beta[a] : well if the default color selection is stopping you????  all of that can be changed.
[04:51] <beta[a] > gentoo and slackware has been the best to me
[04:51] <Dr_willis> "The Power is Yours!"
[04:51] <beta[a] > no dude....
[04:52] <h1st0> Kikkoman: it would be just as easy to put it on the slave drive.
[04:52] <Pelo> Kikkoman,  if you are noobish enought that you want help installing ubuntu, do not try installing it on the same hdd as your windows install,  use another hdd
[04:52] <h1st0> Kikkoman: the only thing you have to worry about is which drive to select to install to.
[04:52] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Ok then
[04:52] <Dr_willis> what is the name of that gnome tool that lets you browse/install themes and wallpapers from gnome-look.org...
[04:52] <JohnPhys> art manager?
[04:52] <Kikkoman> Pelo: This is my first time with Ubuntu :P
[04:52] <i3ooi3oo> ikonia you around ?
[04:52] <fervidfrogger> Has anyone tried the package xfishtank? It seems to be trying to remove all my other packages......
[04:52] <beta[a] > i know i can select new themes man
[04:52] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  the theme manager ?
[04:53] <h1st0> lol
[04:53] <Protostar> how does one mount a ext3 partition so that you can read AND write to it
[04:53] <h1st0> thats all I use.
[04:53] <mangojambo> hi there people ...
[04:53] <beta[a] > i just didn't know if it provided the functionality of emerge/XGl
[04:53] <h1st0> Protostar: in fstab?  or from terminal?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  theres some previwere/download tool
[04:53] <Protostar> i'm trying to save torrents to it, but the client says access denied
[04:53] <beta[a] > not /...  i meant AND
[04:53] <Kikkoman> h1st0: What does the "Boot from first hard disk" option do?
[04:53] <Protostar> fstab
[04:53] <h1st0> Protostar: mount /dev/whatever /media/nuggets
[04:53] <JohnPhys> Dr_willis: I think it's art manager
[04:53] <mangojambo> Ubuntu with 2 monitors ROX !! realy good!!
[04:53] <Kikkoman> h1st0: just out of curiousity :)
[04:53] <Dr_willis> !find gnomeart
[04:53] <h1st0> Kikkoman: when you computer turns on?
[04:53] <Pelo> Kikkoman,   same hdd or different one won't matter in usage much,   but doing on the window hdd will mean you will have to partition your windows hdd and you don't want to do that unless you realy know what you are doing,  it would screw up your windows install
[04:54] <ubotu> Package/file gnomeart does not exist in edgy
[04:54] <Protostar> the drive is already mounted in fstab
[04:54] <Protostar> its mounted usings the defaults option
[04:54] <beta[a] > well i'm gonna install ubuntu... and hopefully it's "pretty" with my 4 monitor setup
[04:54] <Kikkoman> Pelo: I have already partitioned first Hard drive so I have 7 gb of unallocated space
[04:54] <mangojambo> Someone here use Lirc ?
[04:54] <Pelo> Dr_willis, ,  ;you mean gnome-art manager &?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> gnome-art - install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org
[04:54] <h1st0> Protostar: well then you need to edit fstab to give you user options to rw
[04:54] <h1st0> !fstab | Protostar
[04:54] <Protostar> is there anything else i need to enable?
[04:54] <ubotu> Protostar: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:54] <Pelo> Kikkoman,  go to it then
[04:54] <Kikkoman> h1st0: I have the ubuntu cd in and I've gone into ubuntu
[04:55] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay.
[04:55] <Kikkoman> lol XP
[04:55] <alebak> hello everybody
[04:55] <h1st0> Protostar: no just look at the link from ubotu for some explanation
[04:56] <Pelo> hya doctor nick
[04:56] <Protostar> alright
[04:56] <Protostar> thanks
[04:56] <mangojambo> hello alebak
[04:56] <h1st0> np
[04:56] <fervidfrogger> Anyone tried xfishtank?
[04:56] <alebak> hi mangojambo how are you?
[04:56] <Pelo> fervidfrogger,  what is that ?
[04:57] <fervidfrogger> It seems to be removing all other pasckages
[04:57] <h1st0> !xfishtank | Pelo
[04:57] <ubotu> pelo: xfishtank: turns your X root into an aquarium. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2-23.1 (edgy), package size 83 kB, installed size 484 kB
[04:57] <Kikkoman> h1st0: so I just opened the install program
[04:57] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yeap
[04:57] <Kikkoman> It's a virtual aquarium?
[04:58] <mangojambo> alebak: pretty good ...thanx .. I'm trying to setup the lirc in my pc ..
[04:58] <fervidfrogger> When I tried it wanted to remove ALL other installed packages
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Kikkoman,  yea.. its not a very pretty one either. :)
[04:58] <Pelo> I have an actual aquarium,  I think I will forgo the virutal one
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Kikkoman,  and it may not work right with gnome or kde either.
[04:58] <h1st0> Not as pretty as the one in M$ PLUS
[04:58] <fervidfrogger> heh
[04:58] <alebak> mangojambo: what it's lirc?
[04:58] <alebak> is it client irc?
[04:58] <mangojambo> alebak: and having a Xingu ... black beer ... ;)
[04:59] <Dr_willis> !info lirc
[04:59] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[04:59] <h1st0> alebak: no its infrared
[04:59] <alebak> oooo
[04:59] <Kikkoman> h1st0 it is on the "Select a disk" page
[04:59] <h1st0> alebak: so you can use a remote with your pc etc...
[04:59] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay what are your options?
[04:59] <bruenig> Let's say I am creating a deb that will work on any architecture, what do I put for the Architecture part of the control file
[04:59] <Pelo> ohhhh,  gnome 2.18 is out
[04:59] <bruenig> can I put ALL
[04:59] <alebak> umm... lirc is equals a VNC?
[05:00] <h1st0> bruenig: all
[05:00] <Kikkoman> h1st0: /dev/hda:IDE1 master (hda)
[05:00] <bruenig> h1st0, lowercase or does it matter
[05:00] <h1st0> Kikkoman: K that should be the windows drive
[05:00] <Kikkoman> h1st0: /dev/hdb:IDE1 slave(hdb)
[05:00] <Kikkoman> use the largest continuous free space
[05:00] <h1st0> bruenig: that I don't know.   But i've seen multi arch packages are set with all  I'm sure the case matters
[05:00] <Kikkoman> and Manually edit partition table
[05:00] <mangojambo> alebak: no .. :) to use with remote control ... but the my Pixelview RC are "working", without configuration ... like... when I press the Power button, the Power off dialog apears ... lol
[05:01] <Kikkoman> Yeah, first one is Windows hd
[05:01] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay you want to select /dev/hdb  that would be your slave drive.
[05:01] <Kikkoman> ok
[05:01] <Kikkoman> Prepare disk space
[05:01] <Kikkoman> h1st0: By the way, I've already installed ubuntu on this hd, now it's just reinstall :D
[05:02] <Kikkoman> So, prepare disk space
[05:02] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yes
[05:02] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Resize IDE1 slave partition #2 and use freed space, Erase entire disk and manually edit partition table
[05:03] <h1st0> Kikkoman: erase entire disk
[05:03] <orehon> hey, how can i configure my sound modules? Where is alsaconf?
[05:03] <h1st0> Kikkoman: isn't there an option for guided partitioning?
[05:03] <hendaus> hello
[05:03] <Kikkoman> I'm not sure
[05:03] <Kikkoman> There wasn't one that actually said "Guided partitioning"
[05:03] <hendaus> i need a help
[05:04] <Pelo> hendaus,  what with
[05:04] <Ltar> how do I move /tmp/neogeo.zip to /usr/share/games/xmame/roms ?
[05:04] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Where should GRUB be installed?
[05:04] <Pelo> Ltar,   gksu nautilus
[05:04] <h1st0> Kikkoman: mbr of /dev/hda
[05:04] <Kikkoman> h1st0: What do I put in the box? :P
[05:04] <hendaus> Pelo, i try several times to make a vcd by file.DAT and cannot work
[05:04] <h1st0> Kikkoman: I can't see your screen what is on it?
[05:05] <Ltar> Pelo: thank you
[05:05] <orehon> hey, how can i configure my sound modules? Where is alsaconf?
[05:05] <Kikkoman> h1st0: do you want me to take a picture of it and post it on the web
[05:05] <Pelo> hendaus,  try looking in the forum for a howto
[05:05] <h1st0> Kikkoman: well i'm on a terminal based pc right now so I wouldn't be able to see it.
[05:05] <h1st0> Kikkoman: hold up a sec let me switch computerse
[05:05] <h1st0> brb
[05:05] <Kikkoman> ok
[05:06] <Kikkoman> lol terminal
[05:07] <Ltar> pelo: Something went wrong, gksu nautilus launched nautilus, but I still don't have the permissions
[05:07] <Ltar> pelo what's the syntax for the mv command? I assume mv is the correct command for moving a file?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> man mv
[05:08] <Ltar> doh. of course
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Usage: mv [OPTION] ... [-T]  SOURCE DEST
[05:08] <Dr_willis> mv --help :)
[05:08] <Pelo> Ltar,  Ltar  sudo cp /tmp/neogeo.zip /user"share/games/xmame/roms/neogeo.zip
[05:08] <Dr_willis> mv sourcefile destfile
[05:08] <Pelo> Ltar,  make sure I go the paths right
[05:08] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay now post a screenshot to like www.imageshack.us or something.
[05:09] <LightCatcher> Can I download and burn a copy of edgy while running ubuntu live dapper(off the cd)?
[05:09] <Pelo> LightCatcher,  you might have a space problem but other then that ,  sure
[05:09] <Ltar> Pelo: thank you, it was close enough for me to figure it out. and now I know the syntax
[05:10] <h1st0> LightCatcher: how much mmeory do you have.
[05:10] <roxy|wk> can anyone give me a link of flash_player_7 for linux, cus linux_player_9 does not support opera
[05:10] <Kikkoman> h1st0: one second, uploading
[05:10] <Pelo> roxy|wk,  google
[05:10] <roxy|wk> spam
[05:10] <Pelo> hardly
[05:11] <LightCatcher> I'm checking the device manager for my memory...
[05:11] <Kikkoman> http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9872/suc50478lm6.jpg
[05:11] <Kikkoman> h1st0: http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9872/suc50478lm6.jpg
[05:11] <Pelo> LightCatcher,  you could try mounting a hdd and saving to that
[05:11] <h1st0> LightCatcher: just typing top in a terminal would show you.
[05:11] <roxy|wk> i hate google while searching for a soft download
[05:11] <Kikkoman> lol
[05:12] <cyclops> hmm, hopefully someone can help me here. i am a fedora user but one of my friends online had been raving to me about the goodness of ubuntu so i thought i would give it a try. so far only thing i can find is a 700 meg live cd. isn't there a dvd that has more packages etc with it? or do i need to install them using apt?
[05:12] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yeah hit install that should be right.
[05:12] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Ok
[05:12] <LightCatcher> right now 637260k free
[05:13] <h1st0> Kikkoman: btw you could have taken a screenshot hitting printscreen and just used that computer to upload the image
[05:13] <Kikkoman> h1st0: When this is finished, will I be able to access windows again?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> cyclops,  you dont need the dvd.. there IS a dvd.. but dont mess with it.
[05:13] <Pelo> cyclops,  tthere is a dvd, just look for in on torrentz
[05:13] <h1st0> LightCatcher: gunna be close. like Pelo said you could mount a harddrive and save it there.
[05:13] <Dr_willis> cyclops,  at this time everything has had so many updates.. its proberly better to stick with the cd and isntall what you need from the net.
[05:13] <h1st0> LightCatcher: other option is downloadin the netinstall image which is only 7mb iso.  then it would download all the packages while you installed.
[05:13] <Pelo> cyclops,  the live dvd does the same install as the cd ,  and you can get the extra packages online if you need more stuff then what is on the cd
[05:14] <Speakup> How do you recover from a 'pannel already found' error, and then you lose the menubars..and so on?
[05:14] <Kikkoman> h1st0: lol, Ubuntu can't access web, and will I be able to access windows xp when I'm done?
[05:14] <h1st0> Speakup: restarting gnome-panel?  or restarting X
[05:14] <orehon> hey, how can i configure my sound modules? Where is alsaconf?
[05:14] <Speakup> I tried that.. didn't help.
[05:14] <h1st0> Kikkoman: if all goes well if not we can fix that.
[05:14] <cyclops> Dr_willis, aah okay. i'll just use the live cd then. figure i would check out ubuntu. been a die hard RH man since RH5 but haven't really LOOKED at any other distros in 5+ years
[05:14] <Kikkoman> :D
[05:15] <Pelo> orehon,  try looking for help in the forum
[05:15] <LightCatcher> h1sto/pelo: I think I'll try mounting the hdd.
[05:15] <Pelo> LightCatcher,  that's your best bet
[05:16] <h1st0> Kikkoman: assuming everything goes right when you restart your computer it should come up with a grub menu then you can select ubuntu or windows to boot to.
[05:16] <Pelo> LightCatcher,  anything but a NTFS partition btw
[05:16] <cyclops> btw what does ubuntu use for a boot loader? lilo or grub?
[05:16] <LightCatcher> thanks for your help, I'll see if I can figure it out on my own first :)
[05:16] <h1st0> cyclops: grub
[05:16] <nu-> Toma-: you here?
[05:17] <GMWeezel> Will GNOME 2.18 be available for Dapper Drake?
[05:17] <eonnen> so, would this be the correct forum for asking questions about etch network automatic installation problems, or is that more of a debian issue?
[05:17] <h1st0> GMWeezel: not in the main repos
[05:17] <i3ooi3oo> how can i get details on a package?
[05:17] <GMWeezel> h1st0: What repos can I get it from?
[05:17] <nu-> Anyone had problems installing ubuntu with 8800 series gpu?
[05:18] <h1st0> GMWeezel: No idea.  Don't they feature freeze software?  The only updates should be security fixes.
[05:18] <crdlb> nu-, I think you'll need newer nvidia drivers than are in edgy
[05:18] <h1st0> i3ooi3oo: apt-cache showpkg <packagename>
[05:18] <GMWeezel> h1st0: I don't know how those kinds of things work.
[05:18] <nu-> what is edgy?
[05:18] <frantic_> Hi, does anyone know anything about dnsmasq?
[05:18] <h1st0> i3ooi3oo: or look for it in synaptic and right click on it and go to properties
[05:18] <nu-> !edgy
[05:18] <h1st0> nu-: a version of ubuntu.
[05:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:18] <nu-> Right
[05:18] <Kikkoman> !warty
[05:18] <ubotu> warty was the first release of Ubuntu. Version 4.10, codename "Warty Warthog"
[05:18] <nu-> i have edgy then. but it doenst work
[05:18] <Kikkoman> Oh
[05:19] <nu-> I put the cd in
[05:19] <nu-> then it gives me error, x cannot be started
[05:19] <h1st0> Kikkoman: is that what you are installing?
[05:19] <Kikkoman> no
[05:19] <h1st0> k
[05:19] <Kikkoman> It's edgy
[05:19] <Pelo> nu-,  might a borked cd
[05:19] <nu-> ?
[05:19] <h1st0> nu-: try safe graphics mode
[05:19] <nu-> i did, same thing h1st0
[05:19] <h1st0> nu-: hrm.. what kind of video card and do youg et errors when X is trying to start?
[05:20] <h1st0> nu-: other option is the alternate iso or the netinstall iso.  Both would be text based installers.
[05:20] <nu-> h1st0: 8800gtx, Log file: http://paste2.org/p/1878 and my xorg.conf-> http://paste2.org/p/1879
[05:20] <Kikkoman> :o
[05:20] <Kikkoman> I just realized that wubi uses the feisty alternate iso
[05:21] <Kikkoman> lol
[05:21] <nu-> well h1st0, but if i text install, would i be able to use X when installed?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> an alternavie 'text' install will setup X.
[05:21] <h1st0> nu-: assuming you get the proper drivers  who makes the card nvidia?
[05:21] <bruenig> when you install something via dpkg, where does it store the deb, I know with apt it is /var/cache/apt/archives/ but where for dpkg
[05:21] <nu-> i did go through x setup
[05:21] <tidron> aight newbie question
[05:22] <nu-> i did dpgkg-reconfigure xserver-zorg
[05:22] <frantic_> gah
[05:22] <nu-> then i ddi startx
[05:22] <nu-> but as you can see in the log, i get a fatal error: no screen found
[05:22] <tidron> looking for a desktop widget engine like Yahoo Widget Engine for Ubuntu
[05:22] <tidron> anyone have any suggestions
[05:22] <voidmage> tidron: superkaramba?
[05:22] <h1st0> nu-: well select vesa instead of nv for the driver see if that works.
[05:22] <voidmage> or is that kde?
[05:22] <h1st0> nu-: to atleast get X going.
[05:22] <Pelo> bruenig,  doesn't dpkg imply that you arleardy hve the deb ?
[05:22] <bruenig> Pelo, yeah it does, I just wondered if it stored it somewhere else
[05:23] <Pelo> tidron, ,  gdesklets
[05:23] <frantic_> Does anyone know anything about dnsmasq
[05:23] <nu-> h1st0: what's VESA?
[05:23] <h1st0> nu-: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver section to Driver     "vesa"
[05:23] <Pelo> bruenig,  that wouldnT' make much sense to me but hold on , I have a few
[05:23] <frantic_> vesa is framebuffer, not 3D accelerated but very reliable
[05:23] <h1st0> nu-: generic driver so to say.
[05:23] <nu-> so the onboard driver?
[05:23] <MostKnown53> hey whats the name of that version of ubuntu that uses kde
[05:23] <bruenig> Pelo, because when I do apt-cache show package, it still shows the description, where is it getting that description, it certainly isn't getting it from the deb because I deleted it after I installed it
[05:23] <frantic_> no...
[05:23] <nu-> oh wow
[05:23] <nu-> you knwo what h1st0
[05:23] <h1st0> nu-: no.... its just going to use generic driver instead of the nvidia one.
[05:24] <nu-> i think i know the problem
[05:24] <nu-> oh ok, nvm
[05:24] <Kikkoman> MostKnown53: I think it's edgy but don't take my word for it
[05:24] <nu-> i disabled onboard gpu in bios
[05:24] <nu-> a long time ago
[05:24] <nu-> you think that could be it?
[05:24] <MostKnown53> i just dont like gnome as a gui
[05:24] <nu-> and then once in, install 8800gtx driver?
[05:24] <h1st0> nu-: yeah that shouldn't be the issue the issue is that your card is so new the nv driver doesn't support it.
[05:24] <nu-> h1st0: okay
[05:24] <h1st0> nu-: or you could install the nvidia driver now.
[05:24] <h1st0> nu-: a better one that is.
[05:25] <nu-> ?
[05:25] <nu-> im thinking of using vesa like you said
[05:25] <h1st0> nu-: the "nv" driver is a free driver.  the non free version may have support for your card. and by free meaning license not the cost.
[05:25] <eonnen> so no experience out there with network installs of edgy?
[05:25] <nu-> where can i get this nonfree version
[05:25] <reaspired> how can I install xvid encoding support
[05:25] <Pelo> bruenig,  doesn'T seem to find any cache for the deb packages on my file system
[05:26] <h1st0> nu-: its in the repos.  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:26] <h1st0> nu-: or you can use the drive directly from nvidia's site.
[05:26] <bruenig> Pelo, it appears to store stuff in /var/lib/dpkg, not the deb though. I just wonder where it is getting these descriptions
[05:26] <frantic_> you should probably do the apt-get one
[05:26] <h1st0> eonnen: yeah why whats up.
[05:26] <nu-> h1st0: ill use aptget since im in text mode
[05:27] <Pelo> eonnen,   try in the forum, I am sure you will find a howto in there
[05:27] <nu-> h1st0: or shoudl i try vesa first, then if it works, download the 8800 driver from the web?
[05:27] <h1st0> nu-: well try vesa first.  Because isn't this just the install cd you are trying to get working?
[05:27] <hendaus> helpers, is there a vcdgear for kubuntu?
[05:28] <h1st0> !vcdgear
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcdgear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <eonnen> i've followed the howto to the letter, isn't working for me. specifically i suspect it's a problem with the kbd-chooser append param
[05:28] <Kikkoman> h1st0:94% :D
[05:28] <h1st0> eonnen: which howto are you using the mini.iso or trying like pxe boot or something?
[05:28] <h1st0> Kikkoman: k
[05:28] <eonnen> yes, pxe boot
[05:29] <h1st0> eonnen: hrm.. well I only have experience witht he mini.iso
[05:29] <h1st0> eonnen: does the computer have a cdrom?
[05:29] <eonnen> after kbd selection, works like a charm but that won't automate despide preseed values and multiple kernel appends
[05:29] <eonnen> yes
[05:29] <hendaus> Pelo, vcdgear program for linux
[05:29] <eonnen> but not necessarily an accessable one :)
[05:29] <Kikkoman> is it supposed to remove xresprobe
[05:29] <Pelo> hendaus,  what ?
[05:29] <jrandolph> i'm trying to get my ati graphics card working in ubuntu, and i just used envy to install it... but fglrxinfo still doesn't display ATI information...
[05:29] <h1st0> eonnen: hrm.. perhaps someone else may be able to help you more.
[05:30] <omeil> is open office capable of running microsoft office 2003 documents? because i can open one of the documents but a table isn't showing up
[05:30] <h1st0> eonnen: or there is always ubuntuforums.org
[05:30] <Pelo> hendaus,  are you trying to make a vcd ? try devede
[05:30] <hendaus> Pelo,  how can i get vcdgear for linux?
[05:30] <eonnen> h1st0: thanks for listening
[05:30] <GionnyBoss> nu-: if you go to this page http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy#nVidia you get instructions on how to install the beta nvidia drivers... they work very good and faster, give it a try. You can use the generic vesa driver just to log in and do what this tutorial says to install the driver.
[05:30] <h1st0> nu-: is this the install cd you are trying to get working?
[05:30] <frantic_> jrandolf
[05:30] <i3ooi3oo> how can i change a symlink ?
[05:30] <LadyNikon> yay the move to 6.10 worked so far :)
[05:30] <frantic_> open a terminal
[05:30] <jrandolph> k
[05:30] <Pelo> hendaus,   don't know,  try looking in synaptic if not there try the vcdgear site for a package
[05:30] <eonnen> h1st0: thx. will try there
[05:30] <frantic_> grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:31] <h1st0> GionnyBoss: I believe he is just trying to get the install cd working so installing proper drivers is mute at this point.
[05:31] <jrandolph> Driver "fglrx"
[05:31] <hendaus> Pelo,  where can i find it, i am newbie friend :)
[05:31] <Pelo> hendaus,  are you trying to make a vcd ?
[05:31] <pchilds> I found a workaround supposedly for enabling 5.1 surround sound support in my sound card. Last time I tried it edgy would not reload. Is there a workaround to support my sound card to support surround sound instead of just two speakers? I have a soundblaster live card if that helps
[05:31] <hendaus> h1st0, yes ic ubotu doesnot found it :(
[05:31] <Kikkoman> h1st0: restart, right?
[05:31] <LadyNikon> ah downloading at 157kB/s
[05:31] <frantic_> grep Composite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:31] <hendaus> Pelo,  yes
[05:32] <GionnyBoss> h1st0: ah ok, sorry
[05:32] <jrandolph> Option      "Composite" "Disable"
[05:32] <Kikkoman> h1st0
[05:32] <GionnyBoss> h1st0: but the driver I suggested him just rocks! :)
[05:32] <frantic_> did you ... restart?
[05:32] <jrandolph> yeah
[05:32] <frantic_> hmm
[05:32] <Pelo> hendaus,  menu > system > admin > synaptic,  enable all the repos and then do a search for devede , use that , it is the easiest way I know to make a vcd in ubuntu
[05:33] <hendaus> Pelo,  i have it
[05:33] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Should I restart?
[05:33] <nu-> Is there a 64bit version of edgy?
[05:33] <Kikkoman> I think so
[05:33] <frantic_> can you message me your entire xorg.conf file?
[05:33] <frantic_> or is that not allowed on this server
[05:33] <nu-> i couldnt find it
[05:33] <jrandolph> nu- yeah, but i'd suggest going for the 32 bit version anyway
[05:33] <hendaus> Pelo,  but it doesnot works fine the file.DAT
[05:33] <nu-> why?
[05:33] <h1st0> Kikkoman: is it done?
[05:33] <Kikkoman> h1st0: yes
[05:33] <omeil> frantic_, maybe in PM should be ok
[05:34] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yeah restart take out the cd and give it a whirl
[05:34] <nu-> jrandolph: howcome?
[05:34] <Pelo> hendaus,  start from the actual video file
[05:34] <Kikkoman> h1st0: do I need to do anything special after restarting?
[05:34] <Kikkoman> besides removing cd
[05:34] <jrandolph> i tried the 64 bit version and it gave me a lot of problems... for example i couldn't get flash to work in firefox
[05:34] <h1st0> Kikkoman: it should come up with a grub menu hopefully then you just select ubuntu or windows
[05:34] <jrandolph> and in the 32 bit version it's just no problem
[05:34] <frantic_> also
[05:34] <omeil> I can't get runescape to run
[05:34] <Kikkoman> ok
[05:34] <nu-> jrandolph: alright. thanks for the advice
[05:34] <frantic_> glxinfo | grep direct
[05:34] <omeil> i installed Java but RS isn't detecting it for some reason
[05:34] <fervidfrogger> What browser?
[05:34] <FocusedEnergy> good day, I have just now install the most recent ubuntu, so far so good
[05:34] <omeil> Firefox
[05:34] <hendaus> Pelo,  i try manythings from devede and doesnot convert the .DAT to MPEG!
[05:35] <FocusedEnergy> I am running an amd 4400+ x2
[05:35] <Pelo> FocusedEnergy, , welcome to the madhouse
[05:35] <Kikkoman> :D Congratsm FocusedEnergy
[05:35] <FocusedEnergy> and have an asus geforce 6800 ultra
[05:35] <fervidfrogger> omeil: Did you use the SUN site or a another downloader such as EasyUnbutnu?
[05:35] <pchilds> It is a madhouse. lol
[05:35] <jrandolph> frantic_ i opened a private thingy with you... glxinfo | grep direct gives me:
[05:35] <FocusedEnergy> I am wondering if in using envy, I need to have a different kernel than generic
[05:35] <jrandolph> direct rendering: No
[05:35] <i3ooi3oo> how can i change a symlink ? it points to the wrong file i need to correct it
[05:35] <jrandolph> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:35] <Pelo> hendaus,  try opening the dat file in avidemux and converting it from there
[05:35] <omeil> fervidfrogger, i did both, umm the sun one is with the .bin file installation right?
[05:35] <frantic_> hmm
[05:35] <h1st0> FocusedEnergy: no
[05:35] <Dr_willis> i3ooi3oo,  depete it and remake it.
[05:35] <fervidfrogger> yeah
[05:36] <Dr_willis> i always get links bakwards
[05:36] <h1st0> FocusedEnergy:well I dunno what their script is doing.
[05:36] <Kikkoman> h1st0: It doesn't have XP
[05:36] <fervidfrogger> Mine works fine
[05:36] <orehon> How can i get my internal microphone working? i have a HP DV 2120us laptop...
[05:36] <hendaus> Pelo,  wait
[05:36] <jrandolph> frantic_ do you still want to take a look at my xorg.conf file in the private room?
[05:36] <FocusedEnergy> h1st0: so the default 32 bit kernel is fine
[05:36] <h1st0> Kikkoman: did it have ubuntu?
[05:36] <Kikkoman> h1st0: only the system recovery ;A;
[05:36] <omeil> fervidfrogger, hmm weird. im not sure what i can do atm.
[05:36] <Kikkoman> h1st0: yes, it did
[05:36] <frantic_> i never got anything about a private room
[05:36] <FocusedEnergy> the script downloads the drivers from nvidia and configures xorg
[05:36] <h1st0> Kikkoman: so it had system recovery as the only option?
[05:36] <Pelo> FocusedEnergy,  the generic kernel is just a bogus install kernel that installs the kernell you need for your system , it is not so much generic
[05:36] <blanky> hey guys, I went to 'install updates' and it says 'not all updates could be installed, run distribution upgrade', so I do, and I get an error, anyone know what to do?
[05:36] <fervidfrogger> Can you get to the Java console?
[05:36] <hendaus> Pelo,  cannot :(
[05:37] <Kikkoman> h1st0: should I try the system recovery feature?
[05:37] <FocusedEnergy> Pelo: thank you for the clarification
[05:37] <omeil> fervidfrogger, Java in terminal?
[05:37] <frantic_> you installed the drivers from the repositories right?
[05:37] <fervidfrogger> It might show a problem?
[05:37] <fervidfrogger> AThe java terminal
[05:37] <frantic_> although i don't think your display would be working if you had not
[05:37] <Pelo> hendaus,  try looking for help on "converting dat " or dat2mpg  in the forum ,  that is the best I can do for you
[05:37] <frantic_> so yes it's gotta be your xorg.conf file
[05:37] <hendaus> Pelo,  can u find me the vcdgear please
[05:37] <omeil> Sun JAva 5.0 webstart?
[05:37] <frantic_> maybe try pastebin
[05:37] <jrandolph> i tried the repositories, but it didn't work... so i used envy... and i'm really just getting the same problem
[05:37] <Zaphar_home> what are the chances that a fix in for cupsys that has been released for Feisty will be backported to edgy?
[05:37] <fervidfrogger> Yeah
[05:37] <Kikkoman> h1st0: the system recovery was the only other operating system; it was isted under "Win NT/2000/XP" But it booted to compaq sys recovery
[05:37] <Kikkoman> erm
[05:37] <Pelo> hendaus,  hold on
[05:38] <fervidfrogger> Whatever the thing is called
[05:38] <Kikkoman> It was the only one under "Other operating systems"
[05:38] <h1st0> Kikkoman: arghh.  That be the problem.
[05:38] <h1st0> Kikkoman: well selecting that will allow you to fix windows
[05:38] <hendaus> Pelo,  i found one user update vcdgear and then k3b works fine
[05:38] <frantic_> http://pastebin.com/
[05:38] <hendaus> Pelo,  ok
[05:38] <omeil> fervidfrogger, yeah it starts the Java Application cache Viewer
[05:38] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Should I do it? It will just install windows again on the first hd
[05:39] <Pelo> hendaus,  I can' t find anything on vcdgear, sorry, you are on your own
[05:39] <Kikkoman> h1st0: I think it would probably help
[05:40] <jrandolph> i tried to send it to you through xchat frantic... should i use pastebin?
[05:40] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: but whats the problem? Are you sure that Windows doesn't work anymore? Maybe you can just add the correct line in grub configuration if Ubuntu didn't do it on his own
[05:40] <frantic_> yes cuz i didn't get it
[05:40] <Zaphar_home> what are the chances that a fix released in Feisty for cupsys will be backported to edgy?
[05:40] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: Windows isn't even a choice in GRUB
[05:40] <jrandolph> whoah, i've never used this before. i just copy the text and hit send, and it gets publicly dispalyed?
[05:41] <frantic_> pretty much
[05:41] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: that doesn't matter. Was windows installed correctly before you installed ubuntu?
[05:41] <h1st0> GionnyBoss: it found his recovery partition instead of the windows partition.
[05:41] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: Yes it was
[05:41] <Kikkoman> Exactly
[05:41] <jrandolph> thanks for trying to help me
[05:41] <Kikkoman> recovery partition is the first partition on the master drive
[05:41] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: do you know the partition in which Windows is installed?
[05:41] <Kikkoman> hd0,1
[05:42] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: It's the master drive, second partition
[05:42] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: and I guess that in that partition there's only Windows and no other booting operative systems, right?
[05:42] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: In the Windows partition, there is only windows
[05:42] <jrandolph> well, pastebin is working on it. does it normally take this long?
[05:42] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: you can do gedit boot/grub/menu.lst and manually add an entry for windows
[05:42] <frantic_> aw crap this is taking forever
[05:42] <frantic_> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:43] <frantic_> try that
[05:43] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: Ok
[05:43] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: sorry... sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:43] <RudyValencia> Hello.
[05:43] <Kikkoman> crap
[05:43] <RudyValencia> I forgot what I was about to type. Sorry 'bout that!
[05:44] <Kikkoman> crapcrapcrapcrapcrap
[05:44] <jrandolph> ha, that was much faster
[05:44] <jrandolph> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10436/
[05:44] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: what does crap mean? My english is not so good :P
[05:44] <Zaphar_home> what are the chances that a fix released in Feisty for cupsys will be backported to edgy?
[05:44] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: It means something has gone terribly wrong
[05:45] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: why?
[05:45] <sambel> guys, I have Pentium mmx 233 mhz with 64 M ram, and 2,1 Gb HD and want to make it as a router. What debian dist should i use? with that kind of hardware
[05:45] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: I did the unthinkable by using system restore
[05:45] <Kikkoman> Now it will just have to wait a minute ;A;
[05:45] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: system restore for what? Windows?
[05:45] <hosk> how do i check what version of libc i have?
[05:45] <Kikkoman> Yes
[05:46] <hosk> or if i even have a libc; gcc can't seem to find stdio.h
[05:46] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: you don't need that. The problem is just that Ubuntu maybe didn't find your windows partition automatically. It could happen. Just add the correct lines in grub configuration.
[05:46] <Kikkoman> Erm
[05:46] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: Too late now ;A;
[05:46] <frantic_> i don't see what's wrong with this
[05:46] <jrandolph> doh
[05:47] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: be aware that if Windows is not in the first partition of first drive, you have to use command "map" to invert partition order, so windows can be on the first partition of first hard drive
[05:47] <frantic_> hey jrandolf
[05:47] <jrandolph> yeah
[05:47] <frantic_> randolph
[05:47] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: there are a lot of examples if you search with google, it's easy to do
[05:47] <frantic_> i'm going to make a "fix"
[05:47] <jrandolph> hehe
[05:47] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: I actually won't be able to do anything with that computer for about 20 minutes :|
[05:47] <jrandolph> the quotes make me feel safe
[05:47] <Kikkoman> It is recovering Windows XP and application files
[05:48] <hosk> #include <stdio.h> doesnt work; do i need to install glibc?
[05:48] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: ok, I see. Well, when it will finish, just edit the file I told you. :)
[05:48] <Zaphar_home> hosk: probably
[05:48] <frantic_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10437/
[05:48] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: :) Ok
[05:49] <jrandolph> what did you change?
[05:49] <frantic_> if you look in the device section i added that PCI:1:0:0:" line
[05:49] <Zaphar_home> anyone on here familiar with cupsys package?
[05:49] <mdaddy> I had to install edgy piece by piece from the command-line, and thus none of the user groups/permissions were created that I guess would normally have been created by the installer.  How do I get them created?
[05:49] <jrandolph> so i'll make a backup, and then restart my computer. and if it's hosed, i can reload this file... that shold work right?
[05:49] <frantic_> yes definitely make a backup
[05:49] <frantic_> but i don't think it'll make things worse
[05:50] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: and if Windows doesn't start, you have to do this "map" thing... For example, I have Windows on HD1 and so I did 'map (hd0) (hd1)' and then 'map (hd1) (hd0)'. Doing this, Windows will think that he is in the first partition of first drive and it will start with no problem.
[05:50] <FocusedEnergy> seems my system is hiccupy...
[05:50] <hosk> but i already have libc6
[05:50] <FocusedEnergy> I am trying to do a sudo command
[05:50] <FocusedEnergy> I am using the same password I used to log into the system
[05:50] <jbwan> evening
[05:50] <FocusedEnergy> I keep getting sorry, try again
[05:50] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: I know windows will start though, because it is installing it :D
[05:50] <Kikkoman> But thank you for the advice
[05:51] <jrandolph> right-o, i'm off
[05:51] <Zaphar_home> hosk: you need the dev package if you are going to use include files. Check to make sure you have the dev package installed. It's possible you only have the binary libs which doesn't include the header files
[05:51] <jrandolph> thanks for your help frantic_
[05:51] <jbwan> Does anyone know how to edit the desktop context menu in Gnome?
[05:51] <frantic_> good luck
[05:51] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: the problem is that if you are installing Windows, maybe it will write on MBR and you won't be able to boot Ubuntu after Windows installation
[05:51] <hosk> Zaphar_home, linux-libc-dev?
[05:51] <crdlb> jbwan, it's not possible
[05:51] <jbwan> I'm trying to modify it to be fluxbox-ish with the ability to have my panels and desktop icons ... and I just like Gnome :)
[05:52] <jbwan> crdlb: not at all?  Bummer
[05:52] <hosk> Zaphar_home, that wasn't installed, i'll try that, thanks!
[05:52] <Zaphar_home> hosk: yes for any library if you want to compile a packag that uses it you need the *-dev package
[05:52] <Zaphar_home> hosk: as a general rule anyway
[05:52] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: I'm afraid that you will have to re-install Ubuntu or search with google how can you restore GRUB after Windows installation
[05:52] <FocusedEnergy> so my sudo commands worked before ubuntu did its autoupdate thing...now after restarting...sudo + my pass won't work
[05:52] <FocusedEnergy> any ideas?
[05:52] <Flannel> !grub | Kikkoman, first link
[05:52] <ubotu> Kikkoman, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:53] <jbwan> FocusedEnergy: you're not trying to log in with sudo are you?
[05:53] <FocusedEnergy> no
[05:53] <FocusedEnergy> I am trying to apt-get install -f
[05:53] <FocusedEnergy> I logged on fine though
[05:53] <jbwan> FocusedEnergy: su to root and check /etc/sudoers
[05:53] <jbwan> make sure you're still set up in it
[05:54] <Pelo> FocusedEnergy,   in linux case is important, make sure caplock isn't on
[05:54] <blanky> Pelo: it's called case sensitivity :)
[05:54] <FocusedEnergy> jbwan, Pelo: the caps are off
[05:54] <Zaphar_home> now that I've helped hosk I need someone's help getting cupsys fixed. I really don't want to try compiling a package that's a part of the repositories... That way lies insanity and many long nights
[05:54] <FocusedEnergy> this worked like 4 minutes ago, just before my start
[05:54] <jbwan> Pelo: If FE is able to log in do you think there is a caps lock issue?  Possibility I suppose
[05:54] <FocusedEnergy> now su does not work
[05:54] <FocusedEnergy> I was only ever asked for one password
[05:54] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: su wouldn't work.  sudo will
[05:54] <jbwan> FocusedEnergy: tail /etc/sudoers
[05:54] <bill57785> ok, I screwed up when resizing my ubuntu partition (I used windows to do it)
[05:55] <jbwan> Flannel: I use su all the time to log in with root
[05:55] <bill57785> now I am running the live cd to try and fix it
[05:55] <jbwan> bill57785: Try GParted
[05:55] <Pelo> jbwan,  what make you think he didn't do anything between the login and now
[05:55] <bill57785> the partition manager can't figure out the file type for that partition though
[05:55] <jrandolph> frantic_ nope, no good... so something weird i've noticed. when i run glxgears they spin pretty fast for like half a second, then they slow awy down
[05:55] <Flannel> jbwan: You've enabled root.  By default, root is locked, and please don't advocate people set a root password in this channel (not that you werE)
[05:55] <bill57785> am I screwed?
[05:55] <jbwan> Pelo: always a possibility
[05:55] <Flannel> Zaphar_home: sudo -i not sudo su
[05:55] <frantic_> one sec
[05:56] <Zaphar_home> Flannel: sudo su works also
[05:56] <FocusedEnergy> jbwan: tail does not work because I am not root, nor can I issue the sudo
[05:56] <Flannel> Zaphar_home: sudo -i is better, and recommended.
[05:56] <jbwan> Flannel: I find it better to set root and make my own account a regular user... but that's just personal preference
[05:56] <mdaddy> I had to install edgy piece by piece from the command-line, and thus none of the user groups/permissions were created that I guess would normally have been created by the installer.  How do I get them created?
[05:56] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: type "groups", are you in admin?
[05:56] <Zaphar_home> Flannel: I'll remember that
[05:56] <Flannel> jbwan: that's fine.  Please don't recommend it here.
[05:56] <FocusedEnergy> how will I know if I am in admin?
[05:57] <FocusedEnergy> if I see it listed?
[05:57] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: it'll list "admin" in the group listing
[05:57] <FocusedEnergy> yes
[05:57] <cables> My system runs hotter after being suspended and resumed than it does before it gets suspended and resumed. Does anyone have any ideas why?
[05:57] <FocusedEnergy> then I am in there
[05:57] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: I see it listed
[05:57] <frantic_> open synaptic
[05:57] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: Go to a new TTY (ctrl-alt-F#, ctrl-alt-F7 to get back), and try logging in.  Does it work?
[05:58] <cafuego_> cables: suspend+resume probably breaks acpi; so the cpu won't throttle.
[05:58] <Zaphar_home> I've submitted a bug report in launchpad for cupsys and just recently got a message saying the fix has been released in Feisty. I'm in edgy though. What are my options besides upgrading to Feisty
[05:58] <cables> cafuego_, according to the gnome applet, it's throttling just fine
[05:58] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: yes I just did as you suggested and I was able to get a prompt
[05:58] <FocusedEnergy> I'm logged in in that other term
[05:58] <kraypius> I am having a problem. I was forced to reinstall windows. I was using the windows boot loader. Now the ubuntu line in the boot.ini is gone and I dont know what to add to boot.ini to get the bootloader back and showing ubuntu.
[05:58] <bill57785> can anyone help me with my partition crisis?
[05:58] <crdlb> cables, is the fan turning on?
[05:59] <crdlb> after resume
[05:59] <cables> cafuego_, it reminds me of the  difference between the 386 and 686 kernels in Dapper
[05:59] <jrandolph> ok
[05:59] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: alright, now try using sudo there.  `sudo ls`
[05:59] <cables> crdlb, the fan runs louder after resume 'cause the cpu gets hotter.
[05:59] <Flannel> kraypius: why don't you just install GRUB, and use that?
[05:59] <cafuego_> cables: I've never had a machine where ruspend+resume works, so *shrug*. Suspend has always been fine, but effectively a slow way of hitting [RESET]  ;-)
[05:59] <Pelo> kraypius,   I suggest you look for help on that in that bootloader's channel, or their website
[06:00] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: it listed Destkop and Examples
[06:00] <jbwan> !gparted
[06:00] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: but, it does work?  And it prompts you for your password and stuff?
[06:00] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:00] <frantic_> jrandolph? make sure that fglrx-control, linux-restricted-modules-common, linux-restricted-modules-generic, and xorg-driver-fglrx are installed
[06:00] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: yes
[06:00] <jbwan> bill57785: take a look at that and see if it will help you
[06:00] <cables> cafuego_, it worked fine for me before the ubuntu drivers, and it's working fine for me after I switched agpgart for NvAGP. Except for this problem.
[06:00] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: then sudo is working for you
[06:00] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: but not in gnome I guess? or not with this terminalsince the reboot?
[06:00] <cafuego_> Ah, nvidia.
[06:01] <cafuego_> Well
[06:01] <Zaphar_home> I've submitted a bug report in launchpad for cupsys and just recently got a message saying the fix has been released in Feisty. I'm in edgy though. What are my options besides upgrading to Feisty
[06:01] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: hmm.  In gnome, eh?  you're using what?  sudo? or gksudo?
[06:01] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: yes, I am running the command in the other term now and synaptic should get fixed up
[06:01] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: I am using sudo, not gksudo
[06:01] <cafuego_> Perhaps ask mr garret about non-open drivers and suspend+resume
[06:01] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: er, wait, you're running synaptic with sudo?
[06:01] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: the key is that htis worked fine before the updates
[06:01] <cafuego_> He'll probably be driven tod rink, though
[06:02] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: no not running with sudo, but needed to apt-get install -f
[06:02] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: per its recommendation
[06:02] <cables> cafuego_, it did the getting hotter after resume thing before I installed the nVidia drivers, too.
[06:02] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: well, I don't know why it's not workingcurrently, but sudo as a whole is working.
[06:02] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: yep!
[06:02] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: it must be some gnome based something or other.
[06:03] <Zaphar_home> I've submitted a bug report in launchpad for cupsys and just recently got a message saying the fix has been released in Feisty. I'm in edgy though. What are my options besides upgrading to Feisty? I need the fix badly.
[06:03] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: wish I could help narrow it down more, but I don't use gnome, and have no idea what itmight be
[06:03] <Flannel> !repeat | Zaphar_home
[06:03] <ubotu> Zaphar_home: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:03] <Zaphar_home> lol
[06:03] <welch> hi, i have tried googling this to no avail: how do i determine my ip on the network in ubuntu?
[06:03] <Zaphar_home> already did that unfortunately
[06:04] <Zaphar_home> well guess I'll just have to live with it then
[06:04] <Flannel> Zaphar_home: Feisty will be out soon enough
[06:04] <jbwan> welch: ifconfig
[06:04] <jbwan> !ifconfig
[06:04] <Zaphar_home> welch: ifconfig
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: thanks for the help nonetheless!
[06:04] <FocusedEnergy> I'm going to reboot and see what is up
[06:04] <jbwan> haha  ubotu doesn't know ifconfig
[06:04] <Pelo> welch,   iptable ?
[06:04] <Zaphar_home> Flannel: yeah but in the meantime I can't print
[06:04] <Flannel> Zaphar_home: you could try backporting it yourself
[06:04] <Flannel> !prevu | Zaphar_home
[06:04] <ubotu> Zaphar_home: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[06:04] <Pelo> welch,  sorry, Ifconfig
[06:05] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: It's finished, but it just needs to be configured *windows*
[06:05] <welch> pelo, thanks
[06:05] <Zaphar_home> well I can technically but it takes an hour for one page
[06:05] <Zaphar_home> Flannel: thanks that is exactly what I was looking for :-)
[06:06] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: can you boot Ubuntu or Windows installation just installed its boot manager and it will boot only Windows?
[06:06] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: if you can, boot Ubuntu
[06:07] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: and then open a terminal and write ' sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst '
[06:07] <kraypius> gionnyboss, what do I do if i cant get into ubuntu to do that?
[06:07] <Kikkoman> I probably will have to reinstall Ubuntu
[06:07] <kraypius> kikkiman, you are having the same problem as me?
[06:08] <Faolchu> Can anyone tell me how to change the text color of bash in a CLI-only environment? Also, if anyone has a good resource to learning linux wholely through CLI, it would be appreciated.
[06:08] <welch> i am also trying to switch my screen resolution on my laptop to 1080 x 480 resolution so i can connect it to a hdtv, but that resolution is not included in the options in the gnome gui. can i change it to the right setting?
[06:08] <kraypius> i had to reinstall win and boot.ini got replaced
[06:08] <GionnyBoss> kraypius, Kikkoman: no you don't have to re-install... someone wrote a link here with a guide for that
[06:08] <Kikkoman> heh
[06:08] <Style-FilipBole> where must I put a file, for send it via serial with minicom?
[06:08] <Kikkoman> I already reinstalled windows
[06:08] <Flannel> !grub |  Kikkoman, kraypius
[06:08] <ubotu> Kikkoman, kraypius: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:08] <Flannel> First link
[06:08] <Pelo> Faolchu,  http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[06:08] <jbwan> welch: that depends on if your video card supports it along with the driver being used
[06:09] <Flannel> !cli | Faolchu
[06:09] <ubotu> Faolchu: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:09] <GionnyBoss> !grub Kikkoman
[06:09] <Pelo> Faolchu, http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[06:09] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[06:09] <welch> jbwan how can i find out?
[06:09] <GionnyBoss> !grub | Kikkoman, first link
[06:09] <ubotu> Kikkoman, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:09] <cables> cafuego_, just checked again... scaling is indeed broken after a resum.
[06:09] <cables> *resume
[06:10] <Kikkoman> Cool
[06:10] <real_aussie> In "Update Manager", what happened to the "Preferences" Button.  The Preferences button is still in the "Help/Getting Started/2.3 Main Window".
[06:10] <Desp_> morning guys
[06:10] <z0man> I hate ATT&Yahoo with SBCGLOBAL support!!!!!!!!!!
[06:10] <z0man> But I managed to get another UBUNTU user on it :)
[06:10] <Desp_> I got this errors on my sysinfo page
[06:10] <Desp_> Warning: gethostbyaddr() [function.gethostbyaddr] : Address is not a valid IPv4 or IPv6 address in /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/os/class.Linux.inc.php on line 86
[06:10] <Desp_> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/os/class.Linux.inc.php:86) in /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/system_header.php on line 31
[06:10] <Desp_> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/os/class.Linux.inc.php:86) in /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/system_header.php on line 35
[06:11] <jbwan> welch: check your video card's documentation to start with. Otherwise you could try googling
[06:11] <Desp_> anyone can tell me what happend ?
[06:11] <erick> hola
[06:11] <welch> jbwan, if it is possible, how would i do it?
[06:12] <lisapc> i created a shell script and made it exectuable. I then type sudo ./file  but it doesnt.  What am I missing?
[06:12] <Faolchu> Pelo: ty.
[06:12] <welch> jbwan, is there a config file to edit?
[06:12] <Yggdrasil> anyone here familiar with cmatrix ?
[06:12] <kronoman> hi people, well, I have a hard disk that is giving this error :  DriveReady SeekComplete Error and  UncorrectableError
[06:12] <odat> anyone know how to fix a blank usplash
[06:12] <kronoman> but seems to give it from sector 8 to 64 only
[06:12] <kronoman> can I still save it ?
[06:12] <kronoman> hard disks are expensive here
[06:13] <jbwan> welch: possibly. You should always check with the card manufacturer first before attempting file edits like that
[06:13] <kronoman> this is a case where value of hard disk > value of info on it
[06:13] <Yggdrasil> id like to make cmatrix come on after a while of inactivity when im sshd into my box, can i do that ?
[06:13] <welch> jbwan, thanks a lot
[06:13] <pchilds> does anyone know of the linux equivelent for mathimatica ?
[06:13] <frantic_> anybody here got a system76 machine
[06:14] <lisapc> should I run each day 2 commands.  apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:14] <Pelo> pchilds,  what is mathimatica ?
[06:14] <lisapc> what does apt-get dist-upgrade do that apt-get upgrade doesnt?
[06:14] <pchilds> Its a math program that allows mathimatical computation
[06:14] <bruenig> lisapc, man apt-get and see what it says
[06:15] <Pelo> pchilds,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_algebra_systems
[06:15] <pchilds> Thanks Darius08x
[06:15] <lisapc> bruenig, will apt-get upgrade install latest security updates?  or do I need to run dist-upgrade?
[06:16] <bruenig> lisapc, upgrade will do it
[06:16] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:16] <Kikkoman> what
[06:16] <Yggdrasil> any way to make an ssh session run a script after a certain time of inactivity ?
[06:16] <Darius08x> Hey, I'm trying to run a web-server thing from my computer and am using a LAMP server, apache, mysql, php, perl, etc. I've got everything up and working just fine and can view it from local host. But now, I need to be able to have other people visit it, how do I do this?
[06:16] <lisapc> bruenig, thanks
[06:17] <lisapc> bruenig, ill avoid dist-upgrade then
[06:17] <Kikkoman> I think my PC Just spontaneously restarted
[06:17] <bruenig> lisapc, ok do what you wish
[06:17] <eavawter> can anyone tell me how to install drivers for a dlink dwl650+ wireless card
[06:18] <lisapc> bruenig, ok thanks
[06:18] <lisapc> bruenig, if i understood you correctly, upgrade is all I need to get latest security uopdates etc
[06:18] <bruenig> lisapc, right
[06:19] <WiseElder> Hi, sorry by the bother but I am trying to install the Ubuntu 6.10 in my computer. Core 2 Duo 2.13, 2GBs RAM and 7300GS video. I was searching info and found that until april will be there a fix for something like this problem.
[06:19] <WiseElder> My question is: Is there any other way to get this installed or I just have to wait?
[06:19] <GionnyBoss> Darius08x: I think that your question is OT but ... just be sure that if you have a firewall it doesn't block port 80, and configure the NAT if you have a router (port forwarding). Then other people will be able to see your web server just inserting your ip address in their browser
[06:19] <lkthomas> hmm, how could I setup samba to allow any user to access it ?
[06:20] <Darius08x> Ok, thank you gionny. >.> Sorry for the ot question
[06:20] <Kikkoman> what?????
[06:20] <Kikkoman> My windows partition was reformatted when I reinstalled windows
[06:20] <pchilds> Cool found what I was looking for. Mathomatic. Thanks again for the link. Look out algebra class. lol
[06:20] <lisapc> bruenig, ty for always being helpful.
[06:20] <lisapc> brb
[06:21] <real_aussie> Anyone know how to edit "preferences" in "Software Updates"? ... The button is still in the Help guide, but has been removed from the screen dialog.
[06:21] <bruenig> real_aussie, what are you trying to do
[06:21] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: I hope you didn't loose important data :P
[06:21] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: Well actually... I kind of did ;-;
[06:21] <SurfnKid> !automount
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <SurfnKid> !mount
[06:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:22] <SurfnKid> !Diskmounter
[06:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:22] <predder> lisapc, are you the person who started talking about vista in the #hardware channel a couple of weeks back?
[06:22] <Shaba1> hey
[06:22] <predder> hi!
[06:23] <lisapc> predder, i believe so.  I am now running Ubuntu :)
[06:23] <lisapc> predder, love it
[06:23] <predder> you were from Sydney?
[06:23] <real_aussie> bruenig, wanted to change update interval to, say, 31 days, and decrease max package size down to, say, 250M (I'm on a 1Gb/month plan).
[06:23] <lisapc> predder, yes
[06:24] <lisapc> predder, you have good memory
[06:24] <GionnyBoss> real_aussie: just open Synaptic Package Manager ... you will find updates preferences in the Repositories
[06:24] <lisapc> predder, was there somerhing you wanted to ask me?
[06:24] <eavawter> anyone that can help me install drivers of a newby ubuntu person .. for a dlink dwl650+ wireless card please feel free to pm me
[06:24] <predder> lisapc, no no, just wanted to see if you actually ended up ditching vista for ubuntu
[06:24] <predder> that's great news :)
[06:25] <lisapc> predder, I did :)  but I dual boot, because sometimes I need to boot into Vista for my webcam and TV tuner!  other than that, im always on Edgy now
[06:26] <christia1> hi
[06:26] <bruenig> !howdy | christia1
[06:26] <ubotu> christia1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:26] <jbwan> I'm simply depressed now... I can't edit the Gnome context menus
[06:27] <bruenig> jbwan, leave gnome
[06:27] <christia1> i accidently deleted /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, quick fix? ;)... sth like apt-get reinstall module-init-tools?
[06:27] <eavawter> anyone willing to help a newbie ubuntu person install drivers for a dlink wireless card?
[06:27] <jbwan> bruenig:  I'm just not thrilled with fluxbox, blackbox ... and enlightenment is still a bit iffy
[06:28] <jbwan> bruenig: If I could port the elive desktop theme to englightenment on Ubuntu I'd do that. I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough though
[06:28] <eavawter> okie dokie .. guess I'll try a different channel
[06:29] <LightCatcher> How do I make it so that I can see the list of what's going on as edgy loads under the ubuntu logo like you can see it in dapper?
[06:29] <real_aussie> GionnyBoss, bruenig, thanks: the update period was in there: but the size limit is *NOT* settable there.
[06:30] <LightCatcher> Is it even possible?
[06:30] <Flannel> LightCatcher: believe it's the "quiet" line in your boot params.
[06:31] <GionnyBoss> real_aussie: do you need that size limit option?
[06:31] <predder> I was told by someone that ubuntu was ditching the powerpc architecture.. can anyone confirm/deny?
[06:31] <LightCatcher> Flannel: how do I change the setting?
[06:31] <eavawter> OMG .. there are people here who answer question *checking my deoderant
[06:31] <Flannel> predder: "ditching" is too strong
[06:31] <cpk1> LightCatcher: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:32] <LightCatcher> thank you cpk1
[06:32] <Flannel> LightCatcher: Edit the commented out lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but first you might want to try it temporarily, at the grub menu, hit "e" and then you can boot, and see if that fixes it
[06:32] <real_aussie> GionnyBoss: woulda been nice, I guess, but I suppose that I can postpone/stall the upgrade anyway, before it starts.
[06:33] <LightCatcher> thank you too, flannel :)
[06:33] <GionnyBoss> real_aussie: I'm sorry but I can't help... I just do updates manually, I prefer to see what is going to install first :P
[06:33] <Flannel> predder: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-February/000098.html
[06:34] <Flannel> predder: Like I said, "ditching" is a bad word.  It will go unofficial after Feisty, but still community maintained.  That thread explains it all
[06:34] <real_aussie> GionnyBoss, thanks, bye.
[06:34] <eavawter> ok .. just checking .. yep .. I'm here .. can ANYONE see me typing
[06:34] <predder> thanks for the link Flannel, I just started googling
[06:35] <Flannel> !wifi | eavawter
[06:35] <ubotu> eavawter: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:36] <Alonea> Ok, my computer did not exactly change with the time change...and when I try to set it myself it just changes back to what it was
[06:36] <jflash> hey can someone help me get my ubuntu server to send email?
[06:36] <jflash> i pay $$ for this and cant even use it
[06:36] <jflash> please help
[06:37] <goban> is there a free game like the incredible machiene?
[06:37] <Flannel> jflash: have you followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[06:37] <Alonea> jflash: might get more response if you start giving detailso f whats wrong
[06:37] <fentgphx> is anyone available to help me with battery issues?
[06:37] <Alonea> I love the incredible machine! I used to play that when I was a kid
[06:38] <fentgphx> using the power manager installed with ubuntu
[06:38] <Alonea> goban: isnt it DOS? tried running it on DOSBOX?
[06:38] <eavawter> thanks flannel .. but I find those pages of little help .. as until recently I didn't understand that "make" meant use the ./ command
[06:38] <Alonea> fentgphx: whats wrong with it?
[06:38] <Zaphar_home> Flannel: I just wanted you to know that prevu did the trick and I can't thank you enough
[06:38] <goban> Alonea, oh im not trying to run that exactly, just wondering if there are any other games like that for linux
[06:38] <Flannel> eavawter: "make" is make.  Not ./.  Why are you compiling though?
[06:38] <fentgphx> it's not recognizing my battery, and if it recognizes it, it usually says it's dead
[06:39] <Flannel> !gmes | goban
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Flannel> !games | goban
[06:39] <fentgphx> right now I'm running on battery power and it's telling me the battery is missing in the information screen
[06:39] <Alonea> goban: ah, have no idea, I dunno what any of the linux games are besides UT2004
[06:39] <Flannel> !games
[06:39] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[06:39] <eavawter> because that's what you have to do with ndiswrapper to get the broadcom drivers .. or .. at least that's what the article said
[06:40] <Shaba1> no one is ever listining over in #ipcop
[06:41] <goban> thanks flannel
[06:41] <Alonea> eavawter: are you trying to install your broadcom video card?
[06:41] <fentgphx> Is there a power manager that works better/ is more compatible with more systems?
[06:41] <eavawter> no .. my wireless card .. I have the driver installed .. but now my router won't let it past the firewall .. so I'm trying a different wireless card .. or trying to
[06:41] <Sambis> I HAD TO PAY $400 FOR OFFICE FUCKING WANKERS AT MICROSOFT
[06:41] <Sambis> sorry
[06:41] <Sambis> I'm twisted.
[06:41] <Alonea> I have a Broadcom 4318 I think
[06:42] <Flannel> !language | Sambis
[06:42] <ubotu> Sambis: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:42] <Alonea> er, thought this channel was "family friendly" (like how some people claim that in ##Linux...soooo totally not true
[06:43] <Alonea> well, it seems I have to redo my system again because nothing supports 64 bit...just gonna go back to x86
[06:43] <Alonea> it worked...generally.
[06:44] <kilinopsS> hola
[06:44] <kilinopsS> ..:P
 goban: ah, have no idea, I dunno what any of the linux games are besides UT2004 <-- doom3, quake 4 :D
[06:45] <Alonea> ^___^ I need to put Doom 3 on here...but after I redo my system. 64 bit isn't working.
[06:46] <christia1> how would I recover /etc/modprobe.d/aliases?
[06:46] <christia1> Can someone send his? ;)
[06:48] <Alonea> christia1: hmm, I can pastebin mine and you can just make one. dunno if it will work, but you can try
[06:48] <christia1> Alonea, that would be nice
[06:49] <Alonea> christia1: http://pastebin.ca/395657
[06:50] <christia1> Alonea, its edgy?
[06:50] <Alonea> you know how to make the file yes? sudo vim /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (or you can use another text editor, I prefer vim though)
[06:50] <Alonea> christia1: yeah
[06:50] <aoirthoir> howdy
[06:50] <z0man> Has anyone tried to get ATT Yahoo Internet Service working on Ubuntu?
[06:51] <Alonea> christia1: and it says its standard so I doubt its different from x86 and x64
[06:51] <sue-amaroker>  anyone here know how I can point a .run file to look for a directory rather than a CD?
[06:51] <kraypius> how do I figure out what the name of the part/drive my ubuntu is using like /dev/hda* ?
[06:51] <kraypius> from command line
[06:52] <mistone> when I do fdisk /dev/sda ( my mircoSD ) it says cannot read
[06:52] <christia1> Alonea, alright thank u, I'll try
[06:52] <Alonea> no problem hun
[06:52] <mistone> but if I do fdisk /dev/sda -s it tells me I have a gig of partion space
[06:53] <cafuego_> huckster: corrupted zip file
[06:53] <Alonea> huckster: file is probably invalid. as in they zipped it wrong or in a way that is not widely used.
[06:53] <sue-amaroker> huckster - the file is not a valid zip format
[06:54] <kraypius> im in ubuntu, these are the instructions im following to get my windows boot loader fixed up: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html?page=last
[06:54] <aoirthoir> does anyone know if it is possible to have different wallpapers on the various gnome workspaces?
[06:54] <Alonea> huckster: they might of used some special settings with winzip 8 or 9 or whatever version/program they are using and thats why its invalid, but most likely its a corrupted file
[06:54] <kraypius> i need to run this command dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/mnt/share/ubuntu.bin bs=512 count=1
[06:54] <Flannel> !grub | kraypius, follow the first link
[06:54] <ubotu> kraypius, follow the first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:54] <jflash> hi, can someone help me configure email in my server?
[06:54] <kraypius> but i dont know what path to specify
[06:54] <huckster> Thank you cafuego/Alonea/sue-amaroker for helping. I think I'll unzip it in windows and then reopen in Ubuntu.
[06:55] <kraypius> flannel, i tried that and the CD i made couldnt fix my grub
[06:55] <kraypius> it would only let me boot directly into win or linux
[06:55] <Flannel> kraypius: what else do you want GRUB to do?
[06:55] <huckster> Have a Great Day!
[06:55] <Alonea> huckster: really, and people should use formats and settings for formats that anyone can use. I only use special compression techiniques for myself.
[06:55] <kraypius> i mean it wouldnt fix the grub install correctly
[06:56] <kraypius> it will only work to boot using the software on the cd
[06:56] <alienseer23> I am trying to do a restore up with my palm tx using gpilot, it gets stuck with the pilot trying to identify the user, and the appletjust seems to have an erradic status bar...help?
[06:56] <Flannel> kraypius: right, that's what you're supposed to do, then use the instructions on that page to fix grub, using the "Live/Desktop CD" instructions, on that page
[06:59] <Smoke2k> hey is it xp power toys the lil jpeg smasher thing you can download
[07:00] <Lynoure> Smoke2k: What is a jpeg smasher?
[07:01] <Smoke2k> picture smasher
[07:01] <nospi> hey
[07:01] <Craeo> Greetings
[07:03] <Craeo> Any suggestions on getting mp3 files to play in 6.06?
[07:03] <nospi> i currently have windows xp and ubuntu installed on one hard drive (55gb) and i would like to install OS X 86 as well. we have an assignment to do for computer class to compare and analyze the differences between linux, windows and mac, and i thought it would be best to try them all out. Do i have to buy a new hard drive to install Mac OS X 86?
[07:03] <Craeo> Pretty sure it's just a matter of the player right?
[07:03] <nospi> you can use XMMS, it plays mp3s
[07:03] <mneptok> Craeo: sudo aptitude update && aptitude search fluendo
[07:04] <nospi> Craeo, or you have to get the right packages, mpg321 i think
[07:04] <cypher1> !mp3 > Craeo
[07:04] <mneptok> Craeo: install the Fluendo mp3 codec
[07:05] <Craeo> mneptok: I ran the command you just gave me, I assume it just installed the codec?
[07:05] <cypher1> Craeo: please check what ubotu told you
[07:05] <macabre> Hey, i'm thinking about running Ubuntu again.. I don't ever want one of those desktop metapackages though, are things likely to break on dist-upgrades or will I just not get some newer things (fine by me)?
[07:05] <nospi> !mp3 | Craeo
[07:05] <ubotu> Craeo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:06] <bulmer> I tried of having linux installed on a laptop hdd(with usb adapter), plug it in as usb device to my ubuntu system, and also added to grub pointing to this laptop hdd, but I can never boot to it,  is there a trick for grub to continue booting off that usb?
[07:06] <Craeo> Ok, will do
[07:06] <mustiy> When adding the official repositories i get a "no public key available" error - is this normal? Is there a fix around it?
[07:06] <jimd3907> d
[07:06] <Craeo> cypher1: It read the package files, that's about all I can really say it did
[07:07] <cypher1> !mp3 | Craeo
[07:07] <ubotu> Craeo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:07] <nospi> how do i check how many hard drives i can have in my computer? or can you only have one? sorry im really bad with hardware
[07:07] <cypher1> Craeo: please go through the above links mentioned by ubotu
[07:08] <MikeC2> Heya, any technician mind looking at this and telling me what they think about it : http://alliedpcr.org/index.php?topic=12.0
[07:08] <Craeo> I'm on the site now, reading up, thanks for the links, let you know my progress in a sec
[07:08] <Rohinton> macabre: try mepis it's ubuntu based, I have been using it for a couple of weeks and it's pretty solid.
[07:08] <cypher1> Craeo: ok
[07:08] <Jabberman> Can anyone tell me how to scheduale tasks in Dapper?
[07:08] <bulmer> nospi dependent on your controller
[07:08] <mustiy> When adding the official repetories i get a "no public key" error, how can i go about ficing this?
[07:08] <nospi> bulmer, is there a way i can check?
[07:09] <bulmer> nospi to check which controller you have?
[07:09] <cypher1> nospi: i am sure you can have multiple hard disks.. but not sure whether there is any limit on it
[07:09] <Rohinton> nospi: usually two, what size tower? what controllers?
[07:09] <nospi> bulmer, yeah
[07:09] <nospi> Rohinton, no idea, it's not a brand name tower
[07:09] <Jabberman> Anyone?
[07:09] <bulmer> nospi dmesg will tell you which hd controller you got
[07:09] <Rohinton> ok how tall approx?
[07:10] <nospi> bulmer, whoa... big output
[07:10] <cypher1> Jabberman: please see the message from ubotu
[07:10] <nospi> bulmer, what am i looking for in that?
[07:10] <bulmer> nospi something that will clue you in, like hd*
[07:11] <Rohinton> nospi: if you have a full tower you maybe able to get 2*3" and maybe 2*5.25" drives....
[07:11] <nospi> bulmer, [17179575.204000]   hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 > hda3 hda4
[07:11] <mustiy> Sadface... Nobody knows why i get a "no public key" error when adding the official repatories?
[07:11] <Rohinton> nospi: they may not be physical drives but partitions.
[07:11] <nospi> Rohinton, an external one would do the job, i just want to install mac os x on an intel
[07:11] <nospi> Rohinton, oh right
[07:12] <Rohinton> hda is the hard drive and the rest will possibly be partitions.
[07:12] <bulmer> nospi what do you want to accomplish? put as many hard drive on your case?
[07:12] <Rohinton> nospi: if you have gparted you can look at the disk layout.
[07:12] <anathema> hey im trying to play a dvd (in fiesty)
[07:12] <cypher1> mustiy: i think man apt-key should provide some clues
[07:13] <anathema> tryed following some instructions which are actually for edgy
[07:13] <anathema> but cant get the thing to play
[07:13] <nospi> bulmer, i want to be able to boot xp, linux and mac off one hard drive, but it's only 55gb
[07:13] <Rohinton> nospi: Hm I was also going to ask, but I think that you just want to have another partition with some other os...
[07:13] <mustiy> cypher1: Sorry, i didnt understand - can you be more detailed?
[07:14] <nospi> Rohinton, yeah, but when you install the mac os x 86 intel version it wipes the whole drive
[07:14] <nospi> Rohinton, http://www.uneasysilence.com/os-x-proven-hacked-and-running-on-an-ordinary-pc/
[07:14] <bulmer> nospi it does?
[07:14] <Rohinton> nospi: Hmm you need the right type of install...
[07:14] <cypher1> mustiy: i think it has to do with the keys maintained by APT.. you can find more about it in "man apt-key"
[07:14] <nospi> bulmer, yeah, unfortunately
[07:15] <nospi> Rohinton, im going to read up on it a bit more, but i thought i'd better find out before i got too far into it
[07:15] <Rohinton> are you trying to use that vm ware based install?
[07:15] <cypher1> mustiy: i have not personally tried it so cannot give a quicker answer.. but the manpage should help you a lot
[07:15] <bulmer> nospi then just get yourself another hd, they are in-expensive now adays
[07:15] <nospi> bulmer, ok
[07:15] <mustiy> cypher1: okay i guess, i'll see what the above mentioned command gives me - i just want to know why earlier it worked and now it doesnt =(
[07:15] <bulmer> i'd like to give you my 800MB if you like..lolz
[07:15] <Rohinton> nospi: at cosco I got a 160GB passport drive - very nice....
[07:15] <nospi> bulmer, ... 800mb?
[07:16] <nospi> bulmer, the install file is 6gb :p
[07:16] <bulmer> nospi: yes a whopping 800MB
[07:16] <cypher1> mustiy: probably the key got changed ?
[07:16] <bulmer> awws..
[07:16] <nospi> bulmer, lol :p how old is it?
[07:16] <nospi> bulmer, i didn't know they made 800mb drives
[07:16] <mustiy> cypher1: Good call, hehe
[07:16] <bulmer> nospi: i think its marked circa 1996
[07:16] <Rohinton> nospi: I remember that install... it's the way things were set up but you can install it in an appropriately sized partition, I did start but got side tracked...
[07:16] <cypher1> mustiy: which repo is giving that error ? can you paste the output ?
[07:17] <mustiy> cypher1: sure.
[07:17] <nospi> Rohinton, ok. i've looked at a few sites, they all say more or less the same thing, but i'll keep looking
[07:17] <lisapc> how can I install Java runtime for Firefox pls?
[07:18] <Rohinton> nospi: running that under vm ware worked the best...
[07:18] <Rohinton> nospi: good luck.
[07:18] <nospi> Rohinton, i've heard a bit about vm ware, what is it?
[07:18] <Rohinton> it's software that emulates a pc...
[07:19] <nospi> Rohinton, but i've already got a pc, im trying to put mac on it
[07:19] <bulmer> lisapc you install your java jdk or jre and then do a update-alternatives
[07:19] <Rohinton> you feed it an iso image and it will boot up the virtual pc against that...
[07:19] <Rohinton> nospi: yes but the virtual machine will "think" its running what ever you have asked it too, and not know that it itself is only vaporware....
[07:20] <nospi> Rohinton, oh cool
[07:20] <Rohinton> nospi: yes - the best thing is they have made the player ( client ) free... so you should find a vm ware based install and check it out.
[07:21] <nospi> Rohinton, i'll have a look, thanks :)
[07:21] <Rohinton> nospi: theythe company that produce it.
[07:21] <Rohinton> nospi : no probs!
[07:21] <jimd3907> anyone know the irc command to filter out joins and parts from a channel??
[07:21] <mustiy> cypher1: Sorry, this is taking longer then usual... Not really sure why heh, one more minute please.
[07:22] <cypher1> mustiy: ok
[07:22] <mustiy>          deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main
[07:22] <mustiy>         deb-src http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main
[07:22] <mustiy> those 2
[07:22] <mustiy> and the error is as follows...
[07:23] <mustiy> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[07:24] <nospi> Rohinton, would i find that vmware mac file on torrent sites?
[07:24] <nospi> Rohinton, i don't actually know what i'm looking for. is it like an iso?
[07:25] <felix_> Good morning!
[07:26] <felix_> My Update-manager does not work anymore - could anyone help me with this issue? http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8324/
[07:26] <mustiy> cypher1: im trying to load those repository's so i can install the older version of Beryl
[07:27] <cypher1> mustiy: non-official repo's usually needs a key to be added to avoid the types of error you are seeing
[07:27] <cypher1> mustiy: it will be mentioned mostly in the webpage
[07:27] <mustiy> those are not official?
[07:28] <cypher1> mustiy: no i just mentioned.. i am not sure the beryl repo's are ubuntu hosted or not.. you can think on those lines and may correct the warning you are seeing
[07:28] <cypher1> mustiy: also the message can be ignored and the installation done if you want
[07:29] <mustiy> cypher1: installation is a no go, i get a error in the lines of "cannot find beryl<version #>" etc etc
[07:29] <mustiy> i think i have to have the official repo's up and running before anything, which i dont seem to have. Is there a direct website with the official repo's and keys?
[07:32] <Rohinton> nospi:http://www.osx86.theplaceforitall.com/howto/
[07:32] <mneptok> please use #ubuntu-effects for X compositor issues
[07:32] <nospi> Rohinton, thanks :)
[07:33] <Rohinton> nospi: http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/383918/CNWareZ_Mac_OS_X_x86_VMWare_Image
[07:33] <Rohinton> nospi: and google can supply youmore info ;-)
[07:34] <nospi> Rohinton, ok :) i know i should google things more, i always forget lol
[07:35] <mneptok> please do not link to material that infringes on copyright
[07:35] <mneptok>  /msg is best for such things.
[07:35] <Rohinton> mneptok: sorry, noted.
[07:36] <LadyNikon> so..
[07:36] <mneptok> Rohinton: not a huge deal, but Apple's a cool companfy with a good product and they don't need Ubuntu users ripping them off in plain sight. nome sane?
[07:37] <LadyNikon> since i was told to install ubuntu first and windows second..
[07:37] <LadyNikon> how do i get ubuntu again?
[07:37] <mneptok> LadyNikon: that's backwards :)
[07:37] <LadyNikon> mneptok: i know.. but someone said that was the better way
[07:37] <mneptok> !grub | LadyNikon
[07:37] <ubotu> LadyNikon: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:37] <LadyNikon> argh
[07:37] <Rohinton> LadyNikon: if you can reinstall grub it should do the right thing...
[07:37] <LadyNikon> *reinstall* grub
[07:38] <LadyNikon> actually you know what
[07:38] <LadyNikon> i will just get a linux cd and alter it
[07:38] <LadyNikon> :D
[07:39] <LadyNikon> lol@grub floppies
[07:39] <LadyNikon> whats a floppy ;)
[07:39] <amishjew> hey
[07:39] <LadyNikon> an amishjew thats an interesting combo
[07:39] <amishjew> :-P
[07:40] <amishjew> I like oxymorons
[07:40] <amishjew> but AmishNazi isn't good when looking for help
[07:40] <LadyNikon> i wont go into detail on how thats not an oximoron but whatever.
[07:40] <LadyNikon> so whats up amishjew before someone tells us to shut up
[07:41] <amishjew> looking for info on whether or not 2000 will kill grub
[07:41] <amishjew> miss my fps's
[07:41] <Helmi> good morning ;) does anyone have a good source for desktop sounds? there's so many things with just a system beep here - i'd like to substitute them
[07:41] <mneptok> amishjew: it will
[07:41] <Slaj_R> Question for the willing -- Since upgrading to Edgy, I lost my wireless.  Apparently ndiswrapper is still working, but my wireless card is disabled.  Ideas?
[07:42] <mneptok> amishjew: tried Savage?
[07:43] <lwizardl> Hi
[07:43] <LadyNikon> amishjew: yes and there is a guide to fix it
[07:43] <LadyNikon> amishjew: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:43] <LadyNikon> heh i just so happen to be looking at it
[07:43] <amishjew> is there a floppy install of grub to sound utterly noobish
[07:44] <lwizardl> does ubuntu support anything to make allow system backup/restore to be done
[07:44] <LadyNikon> amishjew: just use the install cd
[07:44] <mneptok> LadyNikon / amishjew: there is also a GRUB restore ISO
[07:44] <amishjew> loaned it out
[07:44] <amishjew> friend loved my setup of xubuntu so he snagged it
[07:44] <mneptok> amishjew: the GRUB ISO is pretty small. stand by.
[07:44] <amishjew> rock most!
[07:45] <LadyNikon> mneptok: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/ ?
[07:45] <mneptok> http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/?branch_id=62132&release_id=249273
[07:45] <mneptok> LadyNikon: same project, i think
[07:46] <LadyNikon> its at the bottom of that recoveryubuntu... link
[07:46] <LadyNikon> ohh you can use a USB key
[07:46] <LadyNikon> uNF!
[07:46] <mneptok> amishjew: are you using binary video drivers in Ubuntu?
[07:46] <mneptok> LadyNikon: with the caveat that your BIOS must be able to boot from USB
[07:46] <mustiy> I get a "E: Version "" for 'beryl' was not found" error when doing a "sudo apt-get install beryl= 0.1.99.2~0beryl1"  <--- Does anyone know what the problem maybe? I have the repo's loaded and all.
[07:47] <mustiy> I've been trying to fix this for the past 1h30mins. Sadface.
[07:47] <LadyNikon> mneptok: a what?
[07:47] <LadyNikon> caveat who?
[07:47] <LadyNikon> you mean the ability to boot from usb?
[07:47] <LadyNikon> i have that option :D
[07:47] <mneptok> then there it is.
[07:48] <LadyNikon> using big words on me :(
[07:48] <mneptok> LadyNikon: be cool. stay in school.
[07:48] <LadyNikon> from all the letters from A and Z i am hooked on phonics and still cant read
[07:48] <mustiy> Would anyone know why i get a --> E: Version '' for 'beryl' was not found <-- when trying to --->sudo apt-get install beryl= 0.1.99.2~0beryl1<---
[07:49] <mustiy> Anyone? I'll take anything for a answer
[07:49] <LadyNikon> mustiy: sorry mate no idea
[07:50] <mneptok> mustiy: sudo aptitude update && aptitude search beryl
[07:50] <mustiy> trying now
[07:51] <mustiy> mneptok: that loaded afew things in my terminal, but once it completed i tried to run my command again..and to no avail.
[07:51] <mustiy> Same result.
[07:51] <mustiy> "E: Version '' for 'beryl' was not found"
[07:52] <rohinton> mustiy: try http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy - was it edgy you wanted?
[07:52] <mustiy> yes
[07:52] <cypher1> mustiy: why are you mentioning a specific version ?
[07:53] <mneptok> mustiy: did it find a package named "beryl"?
[07:53] <mustiy> cypher1: because i dont want to install the latest version of Beryl (it causes a lot of problems, for a lot of people - specifically the white screen problem). I want to install 1 older version.
[07:53] <_spaz> i have problems with my apt-get
[07:53] <mustiy> mneptok: yes
[07:54] <cypher1> mustiy: ok
[07:54] <Smoke2k_> my friend installed beryl
[07:54] <Smoke2k_> he just had problem installing it earlier he said
[07:54] <mneptok> mustiy: no version. the package is named "beryl" with nothing else?
[07:54] <Smoke2k_> but he finally got it
[07:54] <jenda> Anyone good with X keyboard settings? I can't get my alt key to work (after fiddling around with gnome's settings, but normally using xmodmap...)
[07:54] <mustiy> mneptok: "p   beryl"
[07:55] <_spaz> wait, nm
[07:56] <jenda> I tried another user, and got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10445/ - where can I access these settings in X?
[07:56] <jenda> uh oh... when I turn off beryl, it works :)
[07:56] <jenda> so - any tips?
[07:58] <sdpurtill> Hey guys
[07:58] <sdpurtill> I have the most noob question ever
[07:59] <Gurpartap> feitsy will include gnome 2.18?
[07:59] <sdpurtill> I finally made the windows - ubuntu switch
[07:59] <EnsignRedshirt> sdpurtill: There is no root password :)
[07:59] <sdpurtill> But whats the best way to burn a bootable DVD?
[07:59] <sdpurtill> I am on windows still
[07:59] <sdpurtill> Trying to install ubuntu on my new box
[07:59] <Alonea> sdpurtill: best way to burn is not at full speed
[08:00] <Gurpartap> sdpurtill, burn the image to a dvd
[08:00] <Alonea> sdpurtill: and i think your supposed to do it RAW toooooooooooooo
[08:00] <sdpurtill> I have the ISO from bittorrent
[08:00] <Gurpartap> use nero, if u have
[08:00] <thomerz> hi, has someone a .config from the newest feisty for me?
[08:00] <sdpurtill> could I just burn the ISO and thats it?
[08:00] <Alonea> sdpurtill: er, srry about extra o's keyboards is being funky
[08:00] <sdpurtill> np
[08:00] <Gurpartap> sdpurtill, u need to select "burn image"
[08:00] <sdpurtill> k
[08:01] <sdpurtill> and then whats the ubuntu mod or whatever that has those CRAZY special fx?
[08:01] <sdpurtill> i saw it on digg the other day
[08:02] <mneptok> sdpurtill: if you are new to Linux you do not want to play with X compositing. trust me. :)
[08:02] <pexi> someone know if totem is an alone project or is a part of gnome project??
[08:03] <jay> Does ne one know if screenlets launchers can use png images?
[08:03] <nipplesrulz> oi
[08:03] <nipplesrulz> my computer is rebooting for no reason i can udnerstand
[08:03] <yusuf_> yusuf
[08:03] <mneptok> pexi: Totem is the official movie player for GNOME - http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/
[08:03] <nipplesrulz> but windows cannot any longer read my linux partitions
[08:03] <nipplesrulz> so i'm wondering how i can check for hdd contamination?
[08:04] <nipplesrulz> im in emergency mode + X
[08:04] <sdpurtill> mneptok: ok, i won't do it
[08:04] <pexi> mneptok: thanks
[08:04] <sdpurtill> is this possible: I have the .iso of ubuntu on my external hard drive
[08:04] <sdpurtill> could i just plug it in to my new bo
[08:04] <sdpurtill> x
[08:04] <sdpurtill> and install it off that?
[08:04] <mneptok> nipplesrulz: boot to rescue mode, touch /forcefsck and reboot
[08:04] <sdpurtill> instead of burning it to dvd
[08:05] <mneptok> sdpurtill: you'll still need to boot
[08:05] <sdpurtill> can i make the hd bootable?
[08:05] <mneptok> sdpurtill: from an ISO? no.
[08:05] <sdpurtill> so i have to burn the ISO onto a dvd?
[08:05] <lkthomas> VDD
[08:05] <mneptok> you have a DVD ISO?
[08:06] <sdpurtill> yeah its like 4.3 GB
[08:06] <mneptok> whoa
[08:06] <jay> Does ne one know if screenlets launchers can use png images?
[08:06] <mneptok> you only need the single 700MB CD :)
[08:06] <sdpurtill> whaaaat
[08:06] <sdpurtill> send me link to the torrent
[08:06] <sdpurtill> i want that one :)
[08:06] <mneptok> arch?
[08:06] <sdpurtill> i didnt know which one to get
[08:06] <mneptok> i386?
[08:07] <sdpurtill> yes
[08:07] <sdpurtill> well, i386 means i have intel processors, yes?
[08:07] <sdpurtill> i am tootally new to all this stuff, sorry :)
[08:07] <mneptok> yes
[08:07] <sdpurtill> yes, then i386
[08:07] <mneptok> do you want the Live CD or the text mode installer?
[08:08] <mneptok> (i prefer text mode as it has far more configurcability)
[08:08] <mneptok> -c
[08:08] <mneptok> http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-iso/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[08:09] <sdpurtill> mneptok: thanks, you rule
[08:09] <starscalling>  /forcefsck ?
[08:10] <starscalling> how do i do that
[08:10] <mneptok> starscalling: boot, press <esc> at the grub prompt, choose rescue mode and "touch /forcefsck"
[08:10] <mneptok> then reboot normally
[08:11] <mneptok> the machine will run fsck on your Linux patitions
[08:11] <mneptok> +r
[08:11] <Helmi> guys i've installed beryl/emerald yesterday. since then every new window opens in the background (including file dialogs and smth). is this a bug or a feature? can't find a settings regarding that
[08:12] <omeil> Does anyone think it would be useful if i create a Unix Runescape Client?
[08:12] <mneptok> Helmi: /join #ubuntu-effects fer compositing questions, please
[08:12] <mneptok> *for
[08:12] <Helmi> ok mneptok, thx
[08:13] <lourence> hello
[08:13] <lourence> how do you install realtek high definition driver?
[08:13] <omeil> lourence have u tried googling?
[08:14] <lourence> yes there is a linux driver but
[08:14] <lourence> it can't detect my sound card
[08:15] <tarelerulz> any of you find dvd::rip and use it ?
[08:16] <tarelerulz> I want to copy a dvd into an avi file do any of you  know of any good programs?
[08:18] <omeil> So you want to convert a DVD to Avi?
[08:19] <lisapc> tarelerulz, http://vixy.net
[08:20] <tarelerulz> I want to rip dvd into an avi
[08:20] <omeil> Any web page makers for Ubuntu?
[08:20] <lisapc> tarelerulz, devede
[08:20] <omeil> programs of course
[08:20] <sdpurtill> django developer :)
[08:20] <tarelerulz> any of you  riped an dvd
[08:21] <Menasim1> how can I make a cron job?
[08:21] <timfrost> !cron | Menasim1
[08:21] <ubotu> Menasim1: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[08:21] <omeil> i suppose i can always use html
[08:22] <omeil> but im lazy :)
[08:22] <daya> plugin for mp3 for ubuntu 6.06
[08:23] <timfrost> !mp3 | daya
[08:23] <ubotu> daya: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:26] <tarelerulz> part I am lost on  is where I have everything for the program and if so how to tell it to rip a dvd
[08:28] <starz> oi
[08:28] <starz> i did that
[08:28] <starz> and it said the partitions passed
[08:28] <starz> but then the journal wouldnt mount and its in some wierd mode
[08:28] <starz> what should i do?
[08:29] <starz> oi
[08:29] <starz> put this inside a screen... sorry
[08:29] <sdpurtill> ok now i am getting very frustrated: i bought this box pre made from tigerdirect.com, and every time i turn it on ( it's plugged into 19" flat screen monitor, powered and all) absolutely no signal is going to the monitor
[08:30] <starz> so i did the 'touch forcefsck' and rebooted and all that.. now what?
[08:30] <sdpurtill> is there anyyy reason for this problem!? i've never had this problem before
[08:30] <Milos> this is not good
[08:30] <Milos> :)
[08:30] <starz> sdpurtill: did it ever work
[08:30] <sdpurtill> just got it today, it hasnt worked at all yet
[08:30] <starz> sdpurtill: it could be your video card
[08:30] <sdpurtill> SHIT
[08:30] <sdpurtill> noooo!
[08:30] <sdpurtill> it came installed in it though!
[08:31] <sdpurtill> i do not wanna return this damn thing
[08:31] <starz> try taking card out and plugging mon into mobo and check systemlogs
[08:31] <gnomer> sdpurtill onboard video or not?
[08:31] <sdpurtill> onboard
[08:31] <sdpurtill> wait
[08:31] <sdpurtill> do they make computers WITHOUT video cards these days?
[08:31] <sdpurtill> i may have been confused and bought the wrong system lol
[08:31] <funpop> im missing my volume control thing in kde..has anyone seen it :P ?
[08:32] <rohinton> sdpurtill: there are onboard controllers and video cards which did you pay for?
[08:32] <gnomer> sdpurtill well computers come with onboard video by default, unless you told them the video card of your choice, which will be plugged into an expansion slot such as agp, pci-e
[08:32] <sdpurtill> ummm let me ceck
[08:32] <sdpurtill> no no it is onboard
[08:32] <sdpurtill> i am 100% sure
[08:32] <Milos> funpop, kmix?
[08:32] <funpop> i think so
[08:32] <funpop> its not started by default anymore
[08:33] <Milos> start kmix and seve session
[08:33] <rohinton> sdpurtill: ok, so when you power it on do you see anything at all?
[08:33] <Milos> save
[08:33] <funpop> allright
[08:33] <Askar> I can not change the icon for the ubuntu main menu...help?
[08:33] <gnomer> sdpurtill It could be that onboard was disabled in BIOS.
[08:33] <omeil> doodle
[08:33] <funpop> milos i have another problem: when kde is loading its stuff i hear an error sound when the desktop icon is loading..
[08:33] <gnomer> sdpurtill It could be that onboard was disabled in BIOS. .. and your meant to use the video card on expansion slot, no?
[08:34] <sdpurtill> rohinton: when i power it on... NOTHING output to monitor whatsoever
[08:34] <sdpurtill> gnomer: they would do that to me?
[08:34] <sdpurtill> tigerdirect.com is where i bought it from
[08:34] <Milos> funpop, have you alsa?
[08:34] <omeil> sdpurtill: any sounds?
[08:34] <Milos> alsamixer
[08:34] <rohinton> sdpurtill: what type of monitor do you have?
[08:34] <Milos> alsadriver
[08:34] <sdpurtill> 19" samsung flatscreen
[08:34] <funpop> and sometimes i got random system freezes, no error message, no keyboard, mouse input possible
[08:34] <gnomer> sdpurtill Is this laptop or desktop?
[08:34] <funpop> i just enabled it, was it a good idea ?
[08:34] <sdpurtill> desktop
[08:34] <maxsoft> hi all. I've ubuntu 6.10. I've changed the graphics video adpeter and now dont start the XServer. exist a programm to configure the xserver ? thank you (like xfree86config)
[08:34] <rohinton> sdpurtill: what physical cables do you use?
[08:35] <gnomer> maxkelley dpkg-configure xserver-xorg
[08:35] <sdpurtill> just one to connect to the back of the computer that goes to the monitor, has blue tips or whatever
[08:35] <omeil> sdpurtill: so the copmuter turns on and it is just silent.....with no monitor output
[08:35] <sdpurtill> and two power cords that are connected, 1 for monitor, 1 for computer
[08:35] <sdpurtill> omeil: yes, that is my situation
[08:35] <gnomer> sdpurtill Ok, do you see any other similar connector (vga) at the back of your computer?
[08:35] <rohinton> sdpurtill: so standard cable, now your monitor does it accept more that one input?
[08:35] <sdpurtill> rohinton: nope, only one input
[08:35] <sdpurtill> if power counts as an input, then 2 :D
[08:36] <gnomer> sdpurtill Better yet, how many video card do you see at the back of your computer?
[08:36] <omeil> sdpurtill: if it was a video card issue the pc speaker would be beeping on boot. if its totally silent sounds like a cpu issue. maybe the cpu wasn't inserted properly or maybe moved during you receving it.
[08:37] <sdpurtill> omeil: is it possible that it got messed up in shipping?
[08:37] <rohinton> sdpurtill: when you power on do you hear the fans?
[08:37] <gnomer> sdpurtill Better yet, how many video card do you see at the back of your computer?
[08:38] <sdpurtill> gnomer: 1 video cards
[08:38] <sdpurtill> *card
[08:38] <omeil> sdpurtill: Yea a lil movement could make it unfunctional...not a big issue tho. no massive damage
[08:38] <sdpurtill> omeil: should i just call their tech support ?
[08:38] <starz> maxsoft:
[08:38] <omeil> sdpurtill: Yeah cause you don't wanna open the comp up if u have warrenty
[08:38] <sdpurtill> i hate calling india...
[08:39] <starz> in a terminal or tty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:39] <starz> that will let you reconfigure that and choose the correct driver if it is installeddd
[08:39] <omeil> sdpurtill: I'm a PC Repair Specialist btw..thats how i know :D
[08:39] <starz> or you can manually edit and change driver in:: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <maxsoft> starz: linux tell me that the package xorg-xserver is not installed
[08:39] <starz> well.
[08:39] <maxsoft> :(
[08:39] <starz> you have no X it seems
[08:39] <Takoda_Sky> I cracked my seal the first day.. lol
[08:39] <maxsoft> very strange...
[08:40] <starz> sudo apt-get install x-window-system
[08:40] <gnomer> starz wasn't it dpkg-configure xserver-xorg rather than dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:40] <sdpurtill> omeil: thanks
[08:40] <rohinton> sdpurtill: when you power the box on do you see any signs of life?
[08:40] <omeil> sdpurtill: Or the only way i could be mistaken is if where u brought it from connected the pc speaker wrong and the computer seems to be beeping but sound isn't coming out, but i highly doubt it.
[08:40] <sdpurtill> rohinton: yes, for sure
[08:40] <sdpurtill> lights go on
[08:40] <maxsoft> starz:  I try
[08:40] <starz> er
[08:40] <starz> x-window-system-core
[08:40] <sdpurtill> rohinton: it sounds like its running, theres fans and lights and everything
[08:41] <mneptok> maxsoft: wait.
[08:41] <starz> and sudo apt get install xorg
[08:41] <Milos> I will any nice gnome wallpaper plss help
[08:41] <gnomer> omeil or they've forgot to plug in the pc speaker =)
[08:41] <mneptok> maxsoft: what is your goal?
[08:41] <rohinton> sdpurtill: did you swap the box and monitor power cables?
[08:41] <starz> mneptok: he changed vid cards
[08:41] <sdpurtill> rohinton: nope
[08:41] <maxsoft> mneptok: I've changed the graphic adpater and now dont star x
[08:41] <starz> apparently gets no X from new one
[08:41] <sdpurtill> one thing i did on accident
[08:41] <omeil> gnomer: yup thats what i said :) that could happen if noobies do it lol
[08:41] <sdpurtill> i mistook the reset button for the power button the first time i turned it on
[08:41] <sdpurtill> so i held down the reset button
[08:41] <kraut> moin
[08:41] <sdpurtill> then i was like... duh.... theres the power button
[08:41] <starz> sdpurtill: what were you using for gui window manager?
[08:41] <starz> er
[08:41] <starz> i meant maxsoft
[08:42] <starz> sorry bout that ^^
[08:42] <sdpurtill> np
[08:42] <mneptok> maxsoft: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xresprobe && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:42] <maxsoft> 'xcore it's not installed'
[08:42] <maxsoft> I've gnome (ubuntu)
[08:42] <Alonea> hey, is there any way I can actually install from the iso? like, put it on my other hd and install from that? my dvd burner is really screwed up and wont burn any faster than .40x (its supposed to burn at 8x)
[08:42] <starz> then just do: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:42] <clouder`grr> Anyone know of a fix for vino-server taking up 100% cpu or is it still an unpatched bug?
[08:42] <starz> see how many packages it says to install
[08:42] <starz> dont install them just yet though
[08:42] <rohinton> sdpurtill: prove the cables by swapping?
[08:42] <gnomer> mneptok wasn't it dpkg-configure xserver-xorg rather than dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:43] <omeil> sdpurtill: your better off calling there tech support. cause if u touch the insides they will be all, you violated the warranty you bastard lol
[08:43] <mneptok> gnomer: no
[08:43] <starz> what kind was the old vid card and what kind is the new one?
[08:43] <starz> gnomer: no
[08:43] <starz> lol
[08:43] <starz> mneptok: beat me
[08:43] <starz> sigh.
[08:43] <sdpurtill> omeil: ok :D will do
[08:43] <rohinton> sdpurtill: I agree, do'nt open the box if youhave just purchased it.
[08:43] <starz> what about my ext3 filesystem though?
[08:43] <maxsoft> starz: xresprobe it's not installed
[08:43] <sdpurtill> rohinton: ill try that right now
[08:43] <starz> maxsoft: install package ubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <starz> but dont fully install it
[08:44] <starz> how many packages does it say it wants to install?
[08:44] <maxsoft> starz: I'm restart it.
[08:44] <mneptok> starz: what ext3 issue?
[08:44] <starz> mneptok: i was the guy in here a little bit ago
[08:44] <starz> um
[08:44] <mneptok> forcefsck :)
[08:44] <starz> my compy reboots and tells me my ext3 partition is crap and makes me  put in admin pw
[08:44] <starz> i am following that
[08:44] <starz> yeah
[08:44] <omeil> ERROR: #27: Cannot load component 'gb.qt': cannot find library file
[08:44] <starz> so it did that then passed the partition
[08:45] <starz> but the thing wouldnt mount jourlals right i think... then mounted it in a very wierd wya
[08:45] <mneptok> it did the media check?
[08:45] <starz> way*
[08:45] <omeil> i think its installed through synaptic package manager :(, trying to install Gambas
[08:45] <starz> sigh.
[08:45] <sander> centos
[08:45] <starz> let me restart again and see if it passes
[08:46] <Takoda_Sky> anyone know how to get my MCP51 AC97 Audio Controller to spit sound out to all 6 speakers?  Getting sick of hearing only two and no sub.. uggh  :-/
[08:47] <starz> actually
[08:47] <starz> mneptok: where would it keep system log of that event? the mounting of fs etc?
[08:47] <sdpurtill> just switched the power
[08:47] <sdpurtill> still nothin
[08:47] <sdpurtill> they keyboard doesnt even light up when i turn it on
[08:47] <sdpurtill> god this is bullshit
[08:47] <starz> Takoda_Sky: right click on speaker icon
[08:48] <starz> then edit > preferences or something like that
[08:48] <starz> and  add things you see to the bars
[08:48] <mneptok> starz: /var/log/dmesg
[08:48] <starz> like pcm :P
[08:48] <starz> thanx mneptok checking that
[08:48] <SailorJerry> Hi all, I've been trying to get my 1xEvdo card up and running and I think I've gotten it like 90% there the card is detected the drivers are loaded and I can dial the ppp connection and get an IP address and DNS however I can not ping anything on the internet or the DNS server any clues? I suspect its a bad route, but I'm not too familiar with this command and its syntax is a little tricky for me.
[08:48] <Takoda_Sky> omg :-D
[08:48] <starz> ordered data mode
[08:49] <maxsoft> starz: "package" dont exist
[08:49] <Takoda_Sky> that's exactly why I couldn't do it.. it was too easy
[08:49] <Takoda_Sky> thanks
[08:49] <gnomer> SailorJerry can you ping an ip address rather than a domain name?
[08:49] <omeil> sdpurtill: What did they say?
[08:49] <SailorJerry> thats what i've been trying to ping gnomer
[08:49] <Takoda_Sky> thanks starz
[08:50] <maxsoft> starz: install package ubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <rohinton> sdpurtill: sounds like mother board problems....
[08:50] <sdpurtill> f********ck
[08:50] <rohinton> sdpurtill: you called the support people?
[08:50] <sdpurtill> no not yet
[08:50] <sdpurtill> im about to
[08:50] <Takoda_Sky> think I'll hang out a while and learn of you ppl..  you don't mind do you?
[08:51] <gnomer> SailorJerry you might have a modem, that ubuntu doesn't have a built-in driver for. xD
[08:51] <SailorJerry> well I dont think thats the case since I've already made the PPP connection and have been given an IP address from the ISP
[08:51] <omeil> They wouldn't send a computer which dosen't work. So i assume it would be the CPU
[08:51] <SailorJerry> it even creates entries in resolv.conf
[08:52] <omeil> sdpurtill: what type of CPU does it have?
[08:52] <Takoda_Sky> my ethernet card was incompatible.. slid in another one and wah la.. worked like a charm
[08:52] <SailorJerry> and now its working....
[08:52] <SailorJerry> creepy
[08:54] <SailorJerry> and now its dead
[08:54] <Ademan> would it be possible to create your own liveCD by mounting the iso file and chroot-ing into it? (and then i ASSUME apt-get would work and affect the iso only right?)
[08:54] <sdpurtill> can i burn ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso to a disc and stick it in? or do i have to do some special operation to make it bootable
[08:55] <mahuyar> I'm trying to compile Audacious from source with extra libraries such as mp3 and ogg support.  Compiling Audacious went smooth, but how could I add extra stuff?
[08:55] <mneptok> sdpurtill: just burn it as you would any other ISO
[08:55] <SailorJerry> ademan: I know you can boot an ISO with lilo (probably grub too) but I would think it would be readonly
[08:55] <Takoda_Sky> img burn is great for that if your burning from windoze
[08:55] <sdpurtill> mneptok: i have never burned an ISO before... lol... again, total noob at this stuff
[08:55] <Takoda_Sky> couple clicks.. no config
[08:56] <Ademan> SailorJerry: mounting, not booting
[08:56] <omeil> sdpurtill: you have msn or yahoo ill help you
[08:56] <MockY> Use Nero (if you are on a windows box) and burn it as an image
[08:56] <rohinton> sdpurtill: img burn on windows is what I use....
[08:56] <mneptok> sdpurtill: lemme find you a nice tutorial that uses freeware for Windows
[08:56] <sdpurtill> ill use imgburn
[08:56] <Takoda_Sky> sdpurtill go to afterdawn.com and get img burn
[08:56] <sdpurtill> quick n easy
[08:57] <mneptok> sdpurtill: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[08:57] <SailorJerry> wouldn't chrooting still use the original kernel you booted with? which I would think would cause some problems with a livecd enviornment, maybe not though
[08:57] <kraut> http://popey.com/Ubuntu_is_sexy_alright
[08:58] <rohinton> sdpurtill: after you install img burn the iso on the system should be associated with it, by it's extension, select the file, hit mb3 and select Burn using img burn
[08:58] <Takoda_Sky> thats funny
[09:00] <Takoda_Sky> sdpurtill, make sure to burn slow to minimalize the chance of errors since it's going to be an OS disc
[09:00] <sdpurtill> k, will do
[09:01] <Takoda_Sky> well IMG will verify anyhow.. still a good rule of thumb
[09:01] <mneptok> 4x or slower
[09:01] <omeil> So the ubuntu DVD gots alota extras?
[09:02] <Takoda_Sky> I was wondering why ppl got the dvd..  I mean can't you just add that stuff once you get a system up and running?
[09:02] <sdpurtill> i dl'd a dvd the first time
[09:02] <sdpurtill> then i came in here and was told to get a cd
[09:03] <Takoda_Sky> well, in case of dial up I guess
[09:03] <omeil> and i guess the stuffo nthe DVD will get outdated sooner or later
[09:04] <sdpurtill> operating systems are like hot girls
[09:04] <sdpurtill> they go out of style
[09:04] <sdpurtill> very quickly
[09:04] <omeil> lol
[09:04] <digdug> so if you install a custom kernel (created with make-kpkg), and I uninstall the generic kernels included with ubuntu, will software update stop bugging me about reinstalling the old kernel?
[09:05] <voltagex> is it possible to create a non live ubuntu cd? I have a specific set of packages that I want to install on several machines, some without net access
[09:05] <rohinton> sdpurtill: dvd's take a long time to copy, you can get a better choice of more "up-to-date" packages via a running system
[09:05] <Takoda_Sky> anyone seen the gaming ubuntu yet? was reading about it earlier http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=3664
[09:05] <rapid> voltagex, theres LFS, buts thats not ubuntu :)
[09:06] <voltagex> rapid: no, it's possible to make custom debian installer discs
[09:06] <cocal> join #ubuntu-cn
[09:06] <rapid> voltagex, then you just answered your own question
[09:06] <voltagex> ah, ubuntu and debian are similar in some ways
[09:07] <omeil> I can answer all my questions by getting a shave
[09:07] <digdug> I think making the install cd also a live cd was genius
[09:07] <Takoda_Sky> yes
[09:07] <omeil> an installation live cd :D
[09:07] <rohinton> digdug: Yes one of the best insights yet...
[09:07] <Takoda_Sky> this helps me know what distros hate my ethernet adapter
[09:07] <omeil> hmm or Live installation CD
[09:07] <rapid> if its not installable its pointless :)
[09:08] <omeil> yup
[09:08] <Takoda_Sky> cause there's a few that certainly do
[09:08] <neosimago> i've installed linux a few times, and i thought about trying out ubuntu. -- the kernel seems to halt during boot. -- i'm a gentoo user. what do you think about chroot into a ubuntu install? -- or is there a way to fix the ubuntu kernel?
[09:08] <omeil> i just love the not doing anything with LAN, ubuntu installed my network and also detected the internet connection through the network
[09:08] <digdug> neosimago: I have that same problem; hp dv9000z with turion 64 x2
[09:09] <digdug> I have to use noapic to boot
[09:09] <omeil> which with XP i have to do manually
[09:09] <neosimago> digdug: noapic in the boot line right?
[09:09] <digdug> the negative effects I've found from that are that usb2.0 stops working, though
[09:09] <digdug> yes
[09:10] <Takoda_Sky> I have tried everything.. setting up a static ip.. letting dhcp decide for me.. nothing works on that nividia card I have.. just get the message eth0 is already running
[09:10] <rapid> nvidia network card?
[09:10] <omeil> What a eho0 bastard
[09:10] <omeil> and yea nvidia network card?
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> that'd be a first i heard of that
[09:10] <Takoda_Sky> finally gave up,..  and took the sleeve off and replaced it
[09:10] <Takoda_Sky> yup
[09:10] <Takoda_Sky> onboard
[09:11] <omeil> ah
[09:11] <Takoda_Sky> can't remember what kind I slapped in.. but it updated emediately
[09:11] <omeil> never had one of them. i got the SIS NIC
[09:11] <omeil> SiS cards always work goods. or Realtek
[09:11] <Takoda_Sky> made me do this ----> :-D
[09:11] <Takoda_Sky> lol
[09:11] <omeil> lol
[09:11] <rapid> Atheros!
[09:11] <digdug> I just hope my bcm 4312 works with an unpatched 2.6.20.3 kernel
[09:12] <digdug> using bcm43xx instead of ndiswrapper
[09:12] <omeil> how long has it been since the 6.10 release?
[09:12] <neosimago> digdug: wait, is the noapic in the kernel line of grub?
[09:12] <Takoda_Sky> is that dapper?
[09:12] <digdug> neosimago, that's where I put it
[09:12] <Takoda_Sky> thats what I'm on.. I said f*** it.. didn't feel like DL another one after the week I've had
[09:12] <pirothezero> there a sports channel on freenode at all?
[09:13] <pirothezero> or offtopic
[09:13] <digdug> I usually just add it after "splash"
[09:13] <Takoda_Sky> still had my ship-it's
[09:13] <omeil> that ultimate gamers DVD just has alot of the games that we can get from our synaptic package manager, and just a couple of Demos like UT2004 for linux and Q3
[09:14] <Takoda_Sky> Yeah.. I was just reading in the linux columns on AD
[09:14] <Takoda_Sky> they all say "bloated"
[09:14] <omeil> yerp
[09:14] <Takoda_Sky> I agree
[09:15] <Takoda_Sky> don't need everything.. just some of the cool things
[09:15] <omeil> yea
[09:15] <omeil> i can't get Gambus to work
[09:15] <fentgphx> I'm unable to open .rar files with the archive manager.  Does anyone have experience with such a problem?
[09:15] <omeil> >.<
[09:15] <Takoda_Sky> have yet to try
[09:15] <Takoda_Sky> but thats coming I'm sure
[09:15] <Takoda_Sky> I have perfect attendance on demonoid
[09:16] <Takoda_Sky> :-X
[09:16] <omeil> fentgphx: are u trying to open this .rar file from your HD or across a network?
[09:16] <neosimago> i noticed that in grub the lines "savedefault and boot" at the end of each menu item. they seem not to be required for a gentoo kernel. what do they do?
[09:16] <omeil> cause i couldn't open rar files across a network
[09:16] <Takoda_Sky> shhh..  my ISP may be listening  :-X
[09:16] <omeil> lol
[09:16] <Takoda_Sky> oh yeah
[09:16] <omeil> What Linux games have u got?
[09:16] <Takoda_Sky> thats what I want to ask
[09:17] <fentgphx> I am trying to open the .rar file from my HD
[09:17] <Takoda_Sky> is there a torrent engine out there for linux that forces encryption?
[09:17] <Takoda_Sky> like utorrent does
[09:18] <Takoda_Sky> I know I can run utor in WINE.. but the "man" owns them now anyway
[09:18] <wwq222> Hi can anyone tell me the command to search all subdirectories for a filename?  sorta like dir /s in DOS
[09:19] <gnomer> wwq222 find / -name TheNameOfFile
[09:19] <Takoda_Sky> demonoid now has the ubuntu bible folks
[09:19] <mneptok> ls -Rla | grep $filename
[09:19] <neosimago> i noticed that in grub the lines "savedefault and boot" at the end of each menu item. they seem not to be required for a gentoo kernel. what do they do? ? ?
[09:19] <Takoda_Sky> for those that do that kind of thing and all..  hehehe
[09:20] <wwq222> Thanks!
[09:20] <mneptok> Takoda_Sky: please do not advertise such things
[09:20] <Takoda_Sky> ok
[09:20] <Takoda_Sky> wasn't sure if that was free press or not
[09:20] <Takoda_Sky> just noticed it is all
[09:20] <mneptok> try stealing a book from a store and let us know wha'ppens ;)
[09:21] <Takoda_Sky> sorry bout' that.. won't happen again chief
[09:21] <B|nTaRa> !ntfs-3g
[09:21] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:21] <omeil> Does anyone know how to compile with Gambas?
[09:22] <omeil> nevermind :D
[09:22] <riaal> what is the easyest way of seting up an ftp server?
[09:23] <valehru> Hey guys, Im running x64 and when I go to the console with Ctrl+alt+F5 the console screen that I reach flickers pretty badly.
[09:23] <mneptok> riaal: use SFTP?
[09:23] <riaal> mneptok, is it graphical?
[09:23] <mneptok> riaal: sure, if you want
[09:23] <mneptok> riaal: what OSes will be accessing the server?
[09:23] <riaal> mneptok, web based or gome?
[09:23] <torrr> how can I set pure-ftpd anonymous home dir, and allowed incoming ips?
[09:24] <riaal> mneptok, probably most winXp
[09:24] <mneptok> riaal: it's built into Linux
[09:24] <mneptok> riaal: Win32 users can use FileZilla to access SFTP servers. gFTP on Linux. CyberDuck on OSX. all are freeware.
[09:24] <riaal> mneptok, I have used ftpd before but it was lot of work adding users etc.
[09:25] <eavawter> my wireless card is knocking on the door of my router (a belkin F5D7231-4) and I keep getting the message: [16:25]  <Cisyouc> what's up?
[09:25] <eavawter> [16:26]  <eavawter> hiya
[09:25] <eavawter> [16:26]  * eavawter taking a DEEP BREATH .. lol
[09:25] <eavawter> [16:26]  <Cisyouc> Hey there.
[09:25] <eavawter> [16:26]  <Cisyouc> You're having an issue with ndis?
[09:25] <eavawter> [16:26]  <eavawter> I'm trying to use ndiswrapper ... I
[09:25] <mneptok> riaal: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[09:25] <riaal> mneptok, SFTP runns on different protocolls then regunal ftp
[09:25] <eavawter> oops ... sorry abotu that
[09:25] <eavawter> that's not what I intended to sen
[09:25] <mneptok> riaal: correct. it's encrypted and therefor more secure.
[09:26] <gnomer> riaal same protocol, but SFTP is more secure.
[09:26] <mneptok> gnomer: SFTP uses ssh as a protocol. FTP uses ftp.
[09:26] <riaal> sounds great, so heavy ftp clents for like Xp will probably suport it?
[09:26] <riaal> oh I see
[09:27] <digdug> as far as ftp clients for windows go, my favorite is filezilla
[09:27] <mneptok> riaal: any FTP client built in the last 5 years with at least a *tiny* clue should support sftp/scp
[09:27] <omeil> if i use the KDE webbrowser on a proggy will users have to download the kde package?
[09:27] <mneptok> (FileZilla has a clue)
[09:27] <riaal> mneptok, great =)
[09:28] <Takoda_Sky> I used 6.06 to install..  when I updated..  did that "put me up to speed" so to speak? or do I need to do something more than just update to get up to date with ubuntu?
[09:28] <mneptok> riaal: all you have to do to create users for SFTP is create new users on the machine. they login using their username and password for Ubuntu.
[09:28] <Askar> Is there a command to show/hide the desktop??? =-O
[09:28] <digdug> there's a button on the taskbar at the bottom of my screen that does that
[09:28] <digdug> bottom left
[09:29] <mneptok> Askar: left side of the bottom GNOME panel
[09:29] <eavawter> my wireless card is knocking on the door of my router (a belkin F5D7231-4) and I keep getting the message: Thu Mar 15 00:24:12 2007 1 Blocked by DoS protection 73.123.248.1.  how do I fix this?
[09:29] <Hallage> Hey everyone. I am having difficulty getting my Lexmark z603 printer to work under Edgy. Ive done a fairly extensive Google, but there are no z603 HOWTOs on there and none of the HOWTOs for the other z6XX series work for me. I basically need a step-by-step walkthrough on how to get it printing, although a link to a website with a HOWTO on it would be just as good.
[09:29] <riaal> mneptok, remember that from the old days.. probably easyer to make a script for it.. is the graphical interface installed when "install openssh-server"
[09:29] <riaal> ?
[09:29] <Askar> mneptok: yeah.. I know..I just thinks its so ugly,, ;(
[09:29] <mneptok> riaal: there is no GUI to the SFTP server. it runs as the ssh server process.
[09:30] <alienseer23> hello, I am trying to run wine for the first time, every time I try to install something, the install launcher gets interrupted right away, and nothing installs, can anyone help me?
[09:30] <alienseer23> please?
[09:30] <mneptok> Hallage: AFAIK, 99% of Lexmark printers are paperweights in Linux
[09:31] <B|nTaRa> hmm
[09:31] <Hallage> mneptok: Damn. Is there anything I can do
[09:31] <B|nTaRa> why my NTFS hdd has problem ?
[09:31] <UB`> Hallage just add it from printing preferences
[09:31] <B|nTaRa> it said something problem with the log file
[09:31] <Hallage> mneptok:I mean, I dont have a boat inneed of an achor :-p
[09:31] <Hallage> UB`:That doesnt work... thats why Im asking. No drivers for it
[09:32] <mneptok> Hallage: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z602_series_z601_z602
[09:32] <UB`> Hallage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersLexmark?highlight=%28print%29
[09:32] <_raphael_> my update manager says I need a dist-upgrade. should I do one?
[09:32] <UB`> there is a z605 there I think you can use that drivers
[09:33] <Hallage> UB and mneptok: Thanks for the links. If they dont work, Ill come back here
[09:33] <UB`> I hope it'll work ;)
[09:33] <eavawter> btw .. anyone who is interested .. there IS a way to install the drivers for broadcom wireless cards with OUT using ndiswrapper
[09:34] <mneptok> Hallage: FYI, Lexmark is not Linux friendly. Brother and HP are far more so.
[09:34] <B|nTaRa> Failed to open directory "SATA1 -   Misc and Anime Data".
[09:34] <B|nTaRa> Permission denied.
[09:34] <B|nTaRa> whats wrong ?
[09:34] <mneptok> man chown
[09:34] <mneptok> man chmod
[09:34] <digdug> eavawter: yeah, I had to compile 2.6.20.2 with patches linked from #bcm-users
[09:34] <B|nTaRa> i cant open the partitions that i mounted
[09:34] <eavawter> this doesn't even use that .. and no recompiling is required
[09:35] <UB`> B|nTaRa check the permissions
[09:35] <digdug> eavawter: I have a 4312, so unfortunately it is for me
[09:35] <eavawter> I'll send you the link to the page if you want it
[09:35] <B|nTaRa> UB`, permission all ok
[09:35] <digdug> major transmission issues otherwise
[09:35] <karakara> can anyone help me with gnome-screensaver-command --lock ? It is saying failed to connect to D-BUS daemon (which is running)
[09:35] <bullgard4> What means 'raw binary'? Synaptic writes under 'acpidump': "utilities to dump system's ACPI tables to an ASCII file. This package contains a small collection of utilities ACPI system tables:* acpidump: to dump tables, * acpixtract: to convert ASCII acpidump output to raw binary; * acpitbl: to dump the table header or contents of a raw ACPI table. Note: Upstream package is called pmtools."
[09:35] <UB`> B|nTaRa are you sure? double check it pls
[09:35] <eavawter> what driver is it using digdug
[09:35] <digdug> but I'd still be interested in seeing the link
[09:36] <B|nTaRa> UB`,    Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux unless you have Vista, then mount NTFS with
[09:36] <B|nTaRa>    the 'force' option read-write, or with the 'ro' option read-only.
[09:36] <digdug> wl_apsta.o
[09:37] <B|nTaRa> UB`, im sure ... here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10450/
[09:37] <Takoda_Sky> eww they said vista
[09:37] <mneptok> B|nTaRa: it's pretty obvious that the permissions are not "all ok" ;)
[09:37] <clouder`grr> Last nite I asked why moving a window around (like a nautilus window) takes up 100% of my cpu.  I was told because of 2D accel. and to install binary drivers.  I did that, glxinfo | grep direct returns yes and planetpenguin gets 100fps
[09:37] <B|nTaRa> mneptok, how to do it ?
[09:37] <UB`> B|nTaRa is clear: Failed to mount '/dev/sda5': Operation not supported
[09:37] <UB`> the device isnt mounted
[09:38] <B|nTaRa> UB`,  how to mount the device ?
[09:38] <B|nTaRa> 1 of the partition is ok
[09:38] <UB`> read that and run what it says
[09:38] <karakara> can anyone help me with gnome-screensaver-command --lock ? It is saying failed to connect to D-BUS daemon (which is running) pllleeeeeeb?
[09:38] <mneptok> B|nTaRa: you could try following the instructions ;)
[09:38] <UB`> like ntfsfix
[09:38] <B|nTaRa> UB`, i a newb , thats why im here
[09:39] <mneptok> B|nTaRa: do you not see the "Start Windows and then shut it down cleanly" suggestion in that error message?
[09:39] <B|nTaRa> mneptok, i dont have any windows now !
[09:40] <UB`> B|nTaRa get a terminal and follow this: Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux unless you have Vista, then mount NTFS with
[09:40] <UB`>    the 'force' option read-write, or with the 'ro' option read-only.
[09:40] <clouder`grr> I'm using a radeon 9000 pro, and using BigDesktop to get dual monitors working.  Any ideas as to why moving around a window is straining my compy to 100% cpu usage still?
[09:40] <B|nTaRa> UB`, i need help with that
[09:41] <B|nTaRa> UB`, where should i put the force option ?
[09:42] <weijie902> hi
[09:42] <weijie902> is Dell Media Direct useful at all?
[09:42] <weijie902> I will wipe it to ease GRUB installation if its useless
[09:43] <karakara> can anyone help me with gnome-screensaver-command --lock ? It is saying failed to connect to D-BUS daemon (which is running) pllleeeeeeb?
[09:43] <B|nTaRa> UB`, u know how to do it ?
[09:43] <voltagex> how big is the base system that the NetInstaller grabs?
[09:43] <B|nTaRa> mneptok,  ?
[09:44] <UB`> B|nTaRa man ntfsfix, man mount
[09:44] <UB`> and read it
[09:44] <B|nTaRa> pfft .. so u dont know how to do it
[09:45] <mneptok> B|nTaRa: just because someone doesn't want to type out instructions that already exist on your machine doesn't mean they don't know.
[09:46] <UB`> I know but I preferer you read it
[09:46] <UB`> brb
[09:46] <aimaz> I am trying to download a feisty image using jigdo, the mirrors in australia all seem to have 404s for a lot of the required files any ideas where i can report that?
[09:47] <voltagex> aimaz: US mirrors ok? if they are, an update is in progress
[09:47] <Caplain> is there a good guide for getting compiz to work?
[09:47] <voltagex> which mirror in particular are you using?
[09:47] <voltagex> Caplain: look on ubuntuforums
[09:48] <Caplain> okay
[09:48] <sdpurtill> OK
[09:48] <Rooy> Caplain: /join #ubuntu-effects
[09:48] <sdpurtill> just got back from like an hour of tech support
[09:48] <sdpurtill> im sendin my box back
[09:48] <sdpurtill> in the mean time
[09:48] <aimaz> voltagex, i tried a couple mirror.datafast.net.au and http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ which was working this morning
[09:48] <sdpurtill> im going to install ubuntu on my moms windows xp computer
[09:48] <sdpurtill> you can choose if you want win xp or ubuntu on startup, right?
[09:49] <XP> yes
[09:49] <sdpurtill> ok
[09:49] <XP> good luck
[09:49] <sdpurtill> is it hard?
[09:49] <digdug> if you know how to install both os's, not really
[09:49] <sdpurtill> first time installing ubuntu ... :D
[09:50] <digdug> still shouldn't be hard, you might have to edit your grub config if you want windows to be your default
[09:50] <digdug> otherwise, ubuntu should automatically add windows to the boot list
[09:50] <sdpurtill> k, here i go!!!!
[09:51] <clouder`grr> Anyone know why 2D performance would suck, but 3D performace seems fine? I'm using fglrx with BigDesktop
[09:52] <shma> Hi!
[09:52] <shma> After upgrade from Dapper to Edgy PPTP VPN doesn't work?
[09:52] <shma> Pptconfig doesn't work too. Write "Cannot determine ethernet adres for proxy ARP"
[09:52] <shma> What can I do?
[09:52] <karakara> can anyone help me with gnome-screensaver-command --lock ? acpi -d is saying "failed to connect to D-BUS daemon..." (which is running)
[09:52] <aleksanteri> anyone know a mirror to php 5?
[09:59] <sdpurtill> hopefully my mom didnt need anything on her computer
[09:59] <sdpurtill> cause i just ruined it
[09:59] <sdpurtill> hahahahaha
[09:59] <karakara> can anyone help me with gnome-screensaver-command --lock ? acpi -d is saying "failed to connect to D-BUS daemon..." (which is running)
[09:59] <voltagex> hahaha I ruined my sister's computer
[10:00] <omeil> Does anyone know how to browse with the KDE browser in Gambas?
[10:00] <voltagex> hope she didn't need anything either :P
[10:00] <voltagex> karakara: acpi has nothing to do with gnome-screensaver afaik
[10:00] <voltagex> I may be wrong
[10:00] <omeil> i don't know what the code for Gambus is to browse lol >.<
[10:00] <voltagex> why are you looking at acpi for answers?
[10:01] <sdpurtill> hey, once you install ubuntu, is it hard to install beryl on it?
[10:01] <ranian> voltagex: why do ruined you?
[10:01] <sdpurtill> i want to just MESS with my mom
[10:01] <saispo> anyone use an apple keyboard under a pc with ubuntu ?
[10:01] <karakara> correct, im trying to trigger the lock using my laptops lid switch
[10:02] <riaal> mneptok, how to get started whit sftp?
[10:02] <sdpurtill> Hey it's been stuck on this stupid line of text for like 10 min now: Starting system log daemon:
[10:02] <sdpurtill> "Starting system log daemon: syslog etc.... "
[10:02] <karakara> gnome-screensaver-command --lock works on its own, but when its in /etc/acpi/lid.sh it doesnt work
[10:02] <sdpurtill> Is this normal?
[10:02] <eavawter> my wireless card is knocking on the door of my router (a belkin F5D7231-4) and I keep getting the message: Thu Mar 15 00:24:12 2007 1 Blocked by DoS protection 73.123.248.1.  how do I fix this?
[10:03] <sdpurtill> omeil, can we talk on skype?
[10:03] <eavawter> from the router .. not from the card or the system
[10:03] <mneptok> riaal: did you install openssh-server?
[10:03] <Rooy> eavawter: that ip looks like from outside, not inside the network
[10:04] <riaal> mneptok, yeh, reading the man page of sftp now and don't understand where to start
[10:04] <yellow_chicken> i have ubuntu dvd iso.  how to install additional apts from the dvd and not via internet?
[10:04] <mneptok> riaal: got a Windows machine running with Filezilla?
[10:04] <riaal> mneptok, 3 ubuntu machines ;)
[10:04] <mneptok> yellow_chicken: add the DVD as a repo in /etc/apt/sources/list
[10:05] <mneptok> *sources.list
[10:05] <mneptok> riaal: sudo aptitude install gftp
[10:05] <riaal> mneptok, whats the difference from apt-get? =S
[10:05] <sdpurtill> hey you guys
[10:05] <mneptok> ncurses UI
[10:05] <sdpurtill> is this regular
[10:06] <sdpurtill> "starting system log daemon: syslog etc..."
[10:06] <sdpurtill> its been stuck on that screen for ever
[10:06] <omeil> what are u installing?
[10:06] <riaal> mneptok, already have that client, its great.. what to do whit it?
[10:06] <sdpurtill> ubuntu
[10:06] <sdpurtill> on my moms windows xp
[10:06] <sdpurtill> partitioning drives
[10:06] <karakara> can anyone help me with triggering a gnome-screensaver lock using acpi?
[10:07] <digdug> is that after the install or just from booting the install cd?
[10:07] <sdpurtill> booting it from the install cd
[10:07] <desire> hi! everybody!
[10:07] <mneptok> riaal: open it. in the top right change the protocol to SSH2. then connect to the IP of the server with your Ubuntu username and pass
[10:07] <desire> may I ask a question about ubuntu
[10:07] <SirOSOriS> hi
[10:07] <mneptok> desire: you just did
[10:08] <omeil> So it does that during the bootin procedure?
[10:08] <mneptok> next!?
[10:08] <sdpurtill> omeil: yes, apparently?
[10:08] <sdpurtill> let me go check if its still on the screen
[10:08] <desire> I have a problem with ubuntu
[10:08] <riaal> mneptok, I don't have to activate the server or ssh or something?
[10:08] <mneptok> riaal: nope
[10:08] <desire> my synptic work not properly
[10:08] <yellow_chicken> mneptok: like this? http://rafb.net/p/376MHT72.html
[10:08] <sdpurtill> ok, now abasolutely NOTHING is showing up on the screen
[10:08] <sdpurtill> is this normal for install from boot cd ?
[10:09] <desire> I can not install any program anymore
[10:09] <digdug> it's not normal, but my computer freezes when booting the live cd as well
[10:09] <sdpurtill> so...
[10:09] <digdug> I'm not sure if my problem is the same as yours
[10:09] <sdpurtill> should i just reinstall?
[10:09] <omeil> sdpurtill: so its black?
[10:09] <mneptok> yellow_chicken: use the CD entries as a template
[10:09] <sdpurtill> yes, all black :)
[10:09] <karakara> gnome-screensaver-Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken
[10:09] <SirOSOriS> is it possible to play wmv files on linux with most video and audio programs please?
[10:10] <omeil> sdpurtill: So you haven't actually got into ubuntu yet?
[10:10] <karakara> pleez halp :D
[10:10] <sdpurtill> no!!!
[10:10] <sdpurtill> should i have by now ?
[10:10] <aimaz> SirOSOriS, yes, but you have to install extra things
[10:10] <omeil> sdpurtill: looks like you have a vid card problem :P
[10:10] <digdug> sdpurtill: yeah, booting the live cd shouldn't take very long
[10:10] <sdpurtill> SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[10:10] <sdpurtill> dude
[10:10] <sdpurtill> i swear
[10:10] <sdpurtill> computers hate me
[10:10] <yellow_chicken> mneptok: deb-src /mnt/DVD   ?
[10:10] <mneptok> !ohmy > sdpurtill
[10:10] <SirOSOriS> aimaz, will xine play wma/wmv?
[10:10] <nanothief> i'm having a problem with open office, the spellcheck has stopped working
[10:10] <omeil> sdpurtill: one thing you can try is to change your vid card settings to vesa
[10:11] <digdug> sdpurtill, is it a newer computer?
[10:11] <sdpurtill> no no this is different computer
[10:11] <aimaz> SirOSOriS, yes, provided you have the codecs installed
[10:11] <omeil> sdpurtill: in other words software mode :)
[10:11] <doug-M12> Evening all, Im having difficulties getting ubuntu server to boot with hard drives attached to sata raid controllers. Anyone familiar with this topic?
[10:11] <sdpurtill> this is a windows xp one
[10:11] <sdpurtill> im installing ubuntu on diff partition
[10:11] <omeil> sdpurtill: yea i know, it happens to anyone
[10:11] <SirOSOriS> aimaz, ty
[10:11] <omeil> sdpurtill: happened ti me :D
[10:11] <sdpurtill> omeil: so, what should i do?
[10:11] <riaal> mneptok, Connection refused
[10:11] <mneptok> sdpurtill: get the alternate CD
[10:11] <omeil> sdpurtill: kk 1 sec
[10:11] <Ademan> are there any GUI frontends to automake/autoconf files?
[10:11] <mneptok> riaal: it needs to be the internal IP
[10:11] <aimaz> SirOSOriS, there are howtos on getting wmv to work in ubuntu on the forums
[10:12] <omeil> whats that reconfigure command again? of the xorg conf?
[10:12] <mneptok> riaal: what address did you use?
[10:12] <riaal> mneptok, oh, external ;)
[10:12] <aimaz> omeil: dpkg-reconfigure?
[10:12] <mneptok> riaal: ain't gonna work until you forward port 22 to that machine
[10:12] <riaal> mneptok, well I was lacy and didn't want to change computer, can I ftp from the same one as the server is on?
[10:12] <desire> my synpatic shows always dpkg error. I have tried with sudo apt-get install -f and dpky --configure -a. they doesnt work
[10:12] <SirOSOriS> aimaz, I'm downloading 3gig distribution ubuntu ultimate gamers edition. that has mp3 support built right in. also hopeing it has wma/wmv support
[10:13] <mneptok> riaal: sure. connect to "localhost" (no quotes)
[10:13] <riaal> mneptok, tryed that first, didn't work
[10:13] <mneptok> riaal: 127.0.0.1
[10:13] <desire> my synpatic shows always dpkg error. I have tried with sudo apt-get install -f and dpky --configure -a. they didnt work
[10:13] <zero-9371> can someone tell me a bash command i can use to append an extension to a group of files? i have a collection of wav files produced using arecord they each end in .wav.0 or .wav.1 ..2...3 etc and i need to make them end in .wav
[10:14] <mneptok> riaal: and you MUST change the protocol to SSH2 in gFTP
[10:14] <omeil> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:14] <omeil>  does that require sudo if its at the live cd boot command line?
[10:14] <Ktron> Just thought I'd check before I go to sleep... anyone with any suggestions about what is wrong with my ubuntu install if whenever I 'shutdown' Xorg the screens go black and the system is unresponsive?
[10:14] <mneptok> omeil: there's no point
[10:14] <riaal> mneptok, works, im getting this far: Connected to 127.0.0.1:22
[10:14] <riaal> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-5ubuntu1
[10:14] <Smoke2k> what i should use for something exactly like ubuntu
[10:14] <desire> who can tell me what I can do with the follows
[10:14] <desire> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:14] <desire> feng@feng-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:14] <desire> Setting up texlive-lang-mongolian (2005-2) ...
[10:14] <desire> Running mktexlsr. This may take some time... done.
[10:14] <desire> Running updmap-sys. This may take some time... done.
[10:14] <desire> Building format(s) --byhyphen language.dat. This may take some time...
[10:14] <desire> fmtutil-sys failed. Output has been stored in
[10:15] <desire> /tmp/texlive.fmtutil.Euyd6401
[10:15] <omeil> mneptok: why not?
[10:15] <desire> Please include this file if you report a bug.
[10:15] <desire> dpkg: error processing texlive-lang-mongolian (--configure):
[10:15] <desire>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:15] <Smoke2k> if live cd still won't partition external usb tomorrow i need alternative
[10:15] <desire> Setting up texlive-lang-finnish (2005-2) ...
[10:15] <desire> Running mktexlsr. This may take some time... done.
[10:15] <desire> Building format(s) --byhyphen language.dat. This may take some time...
[10:15] <Smoke2k> what is just like ubuntu ?
[10:15] <desire> fmtutil-sys failed. Output has been stored in
[10:15] <digdug> desire: careful, you might get booted
[10:15] <desire> /tmp/texlive.fmtutil.sZqn7150
[10:15] <riaal> lol, I know paste a book in here
[10:15] <desire> Please include this file if you report a bug.
[10:15] <Smoke2k> i need a good new distro
[10:15] <mneptok> omeil: uhhh ... why would you reconfigure an X server that was just configured
[10:15] <mneptok> !pastebin > desire
[10:15] <aimaz> desire, normally if you want to share more than 3 lines you use a paste bin
[10:16] <omeil> mneptok: we want to configure it to vesa
[10:16] <asianCOOL> may i know which deb ubuntu package got stdio.h stdlib.h file?
[10:16] <desire> sorry
[10:16] <riaal> mneptok, what do you think is going on?
[10:16] <sdpurtill> guys im out
[10:16] <sdpurtill> im going to try to install this on my laptop
[10:16] <sdpurtill> peace
[10:16] <digdug> sdpurtill, night, good luck
[10:16] <mneptok> omeil: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf || change driver || ctl-alt-bkspc
[10:16] <sdpurtill> thanks, later
[10:17] <aimaz> asianCOOL, if you `apt-get install build-essential`i think it will get all that
[10:17] <desire> my problem tortured me already three days
[10:17] <mneptok> riaal: ssh -vvvvvvv 127.0.0.1
[10:17] <omeil> mneptok: yeah thats what i was thinking...can he get to a terminal before boot up?
[10:17] <mneptok> riaal: pastebin the results
[10:17] <riaal> mneptok, what is that??? =S
[10:17] <mneptok> omeil: is this sd?
[10:17] <riaal> !pastebin
[10:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:17] <Ktron> No insight on how to stop my system from locking up and the screens going blank whenever I shutdown/restart/logout/etc from Xorg?
[10:17] <omeil> mneptok: sd? dunno ask sdpurtill
[10:18] <Ktron> (Or switch TTYs to a text one from the graphical TTY I booted to)
[10:18] <mneptok> omeil: he should use the alt CD
[10:18] <omeil> mneptok: i think he is using the alt CD
[10:18] <digdug> that's assuming it's his video; his screen didn't go black until he'd left the install going for 15 minutes
[10:18] <mneptok> if X is an issue, he's not
[10:18] <digdug> sorry, left the live cd booting for 15 minutes
[10:18] <riaal> mneptok, ops, have to run to work.. will try to figure it out later.. thanks for the help!
[10:18] <SirOSOriS> how does the ubuntu community feel about there not being a United Nations anymore?
[10:19] <desire> thank you mneptok I got to visit that site
[10:19] <Ktron> ah well
[10:19] <Ktron> g'night
[10:19] <mneptok> !offtopic > SirOSOriS
[10:21] <nu-> connect irc.freenode.net
[10:22] <nu-> oh
[10:22] <nu-> it connected me automatically
[10:22] <nu-> !nvidia
[10:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <benwolf> hi guys
[10:23] <benwolf> !pastebin
[10:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:23] <nugenoa> What is the difference between the stable version and the LTS version?
[10:24] <benwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10455/
[10:24] <benwolf> HELP
[10:24] <mneptok> LTS will be supported for 5 years. others will not.
[10:24] <asianCOOL> how to remove installed program using gebi?
[10:24] <Logos`>  [ . . hihi . . ] 
[10:24] <Logos`>  [ . . hola . . ] 
[10:24] <Logos`>  [ . . ciao . . ] 
[10:24] <benwolf> shut up
[10:24] <benwolf> stupid hippie
[10:24] <Logos`>  [ . . shut up you . . ] 
[10:24] <asianCOOL> what is the program in window that remove installed program?
[10:24] <Logos`>  [ . . fuck u . . ] 
[10:24] <Logos`>  [ . . :) . . ] 
[10:24] <desire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10453/ help!!!!
[10:24] <benwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10455/ help!!
[10:24] <rocioujaque> OLA
[10:25] <desire> just tell me a command that can help
[10:25] <karakara> man
[10:25] <rocioujaque> ola
[10:26] <desire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10453/ just tell me a command that can help me to get out of this problem
[10:26] <adrenalin1983> Hi there, I was wondering if someone could help me get glx running on my mobility radeon 7500?
[10:26] <rocioujaque> ola
[10:26] <benwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10455/ help!!
[10:26] <mneptok> desire: pleas do not repeat
[10:26] <desire> mneptok, can you help me? pleeese :)
[10:27] <mneptok> desire: not ATM. working on a paying customer's case.
[10:27] <aimaz> benwolf, what is the problem?
[10:27] <benwolf> aimaz
[10:27] <benwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10455/
[10:27] <omeil> if you type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the boot command line will that work?
[10:27] <benwolf> the package is 86kb ?
[10:27] <asianCOOL> may i know the program to view installed programs ?
[10:27] <benwolf> its apache2
[10:28] <asianCOOL> deb manager?
[10:29] <bcochofel> hi, I'm having trouble with apache2 and accents
[10:30] <nu-> anyway to change computer name?
[10:30] <nu-> for example. mynamehere@localhost~
[10:31] <nu-> is there a way to change localhost?
[10:31] <dusty-work> Hey guys I have a really wierd problem.  I run an ubuntu gateway at my work, it provides inet access to the workstations.. usually when i come into work my boss is like the internet is not working low and behold when i check the workstations there is not inet connectivity, when i goto the gateway i push the monitor button and it just flashes as if it can't come on, so i have to hard reboot, it comes back up and everything is
[10:31] <dusty-work> fine.  This happens 4/5 days mon-fri.  I Have looked at the logs and can't see anything, the hardware is fine.. any ideas what could be causing this as i need to get to the bottom?
[10:32] <MasseR> Are you sure the hardware is fine?
[10:32] <adrenalin1983> Anyone have time to help me?
[10:32] <MasseR> "Don't ask to ask, ask" :)
[10:33] <adrenalin1983> I asked before got no responce
[10:33] <desire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10456/ here is the last lines of the problem
[10:33] <lulu> hi
[10:33] <adrenalin1983> I need help with settin up my radeon 7500
[10:33] <adrenalin1983> when I run glxinfo I get this respone Error: unable to open display (null)
[10:34] <adrenalin1983> however I can run opengl screensavers
[10:34] <lulu> is it possible ti install ubuntu 6.10 via internet (I have internet but CD reader does not work)
[10:34] <adrenalin1983> no worries
[10:34] <Slart> lulu: I don't think so.. you need at least a minimal startup system
[10:35] <lulu> sure?
[10:35] <Slart> lulu: ehh.. not 100%... but I'd be very surprised if there was a way
[10:35] <benwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10455/
[10:35] <lulu> I have got a windows working on machine, that helps?
[10:35] <Slart> lulu: nope.. not really
[10:35] <benwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10455/
[10:36] <lulu> thx
[10:36] <lulu> other linux that could be installed through internet/ftp?
[10:36] <gn0me> I've installed Ubuntu on VMware, made it as Guest OS, while Windows XP is my main OS, Ubuntu was working flawlessly, I can connect to internet etc, until today, I couldn't connect to the internet with my Ubuntu, I have "x" next to the connection on the notification area, but Windows XP works great with the internet, any idae plz?
[10:36] <bcochofel> lulu: I believe every debian based distros
[10:36] <Slart> lulu: I guess, theoretically you could download a small program that sets up a partition for boot using perhaps.. java?.. but i've never seen nor heard anything about such a system
[10:36] <benwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10455/
[10:37] <bcochofel> !pt
[10:37] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:37] <lkthomas> guys, any suggestion for small weight pointpoint editor ?
[10:37] <Seveas> !repeat | benwolf
[10:37] <ubotu> benwolf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:37] <benwolf> dude
[10:37] <benwolf> i been here for 20 mins
[10:37] <Seveas> so?
[10:37] <benwolf> so what?
[10:37] <Seveas> all you do is paste a url
[10:37] <Slart> does anyone here know of a linux distro you can install using only internet? ie without a cd to boot from.
[10:37] <benwolf> really?
[10:38] <Seveas> why do you expect help?
[10:38] <benwolf> u want me to paste 20 lines?
[10:38] <LOLZebra> ?
[10:38] <benwolf> wtf
[10:38] <Seveas> you might want to say what the problem is...
[10:38] <benwolf> at the end of day
[10:38] <benwolf> i have to paste the link
[10:38] <benwolf> and i did say what it iwas
[10:38] <benwolf> when i download apache2 from apt-get
[10:38] <benwolf> it downloads only 86kb
[10:38] <Seveas> so?
[10:39] <Seveas> apache2 is an empty package depending on the actual apache package
[10:39] <benwolf> so what/
[10:39] <finalbeta> You should be happy ;)
[10:39] <Seveas> so that was installed already
[10:39] <gn0me> I've installed Ubuntu on VMware, made it as Guest OS, while Windows XP is my main OS, Ubuntu was working flawlessly, I can connect to internet etc, until today, I couldn't connect to the internet with my Ubuntu, I have "x" next to the connection on the notification area, but Windows XP works great with the internet, any idae plz?
[10:39] <benwolf> why do u keep saying so? r u retarded?
[10:40] <z9999> Running Ubuntu 6.06 with an Nvidia GF6150 video card in a Compaq notebook WXGA (1280x800), we only have resolution choices of 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x400. How do we enable setting the correct resolution?
[10:40] <Madpilot> ubotu, fixres | z9999
[10:40] <ubotu> z9999: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:41] <lulu> which program tu use wifi under Ubuntu 6.10/Gnome?
[10:41] <lulu> to use, sorry.
[10:41] <adrenalin1983> Can someone help me get my video card working correctly? Its a mobility radeon 7500 and I want to get applications like XGL working and 3ddesktop
[10:41] <Slart> does anyone know of a IM-client that handles icq, aim, msn and has a little more configurability than gaim? more like miranda but for linux
[10:41] <MasseR> !xgl
[10:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:41] <MasseR> There you go
[10:41] <lulu> Slart:gwain
[10:42] <Slart> !gwain
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gwain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <adrenalin1983> thanks ill give it a try
[10:42] <Seveas> Slart, kopete perhaps
[10:42] <Slart> thanks lulu and seveas.. I'll look into those
[10:43] <gn0me> Slart There is Miranda for Linux
[10:43] <Slart> gn0me: oh.. is that a new thing? never seen it available for linux before..
[10:44] <gn0me> Miranda for Linux was released in 2005, iirc
[10:45] <Slart> gn0me: hmm.. don't see any info on the official miranda site.. is it some kind of fork?
[10:46] <andeol> Hi! My nautilus folder views do not show file changes automatically - i need to refresh manually. Could this be gam_server related? I don't have a gam_server process running.
[10:47] <Slart> andeol: I don't have a gam_server process running either.. and my folders refresh automatically
[10:47] <sipior> andeol: i don't have one either, but it seems to work for me
[10:47] <bcochofel> well, anyone here can help me w my apache problem
[10:48] <andeol> Slart: okay, then that's probably not the problem then
[10:48] <Frogzoo> !anyone | bcochofel
[10:48] <ubotu> bcochofel: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:49] <nibbo> My mp3-player mounts as "read only"
[10:49] <Slart> gn0me: hmm.. it seems miranda for linux is just "run miranda using wine".. =/
[10:50] <gn0me> I've installed Ubuntu on VMware, made it as Guest OS, while Windows XP is my main OS, Ubuntu was working flawlessly, I can connect to internet etc, until today, I couldn't connect to the internet with my Ubuntu, I have "x" next to the connection on the notification area, but Windows XP works great with the internet, any idae plz?
[10:50] <gn0me> Slart My  bad, i thought it was released.
[10:51] <nibbo> what files determine if my mp3-player mounts as read only?
[10:51] <bcochofel> ubotu: I did and got no answer. But here it goes again: I can't seen to have accents on my apache served pages
[10:51] <Madpilot> nibbo, is it formatted w/ NTFS?
[10:51] <Slart> gn0me: no worries.. I just got excited at the thought of a native miranda for linux =)
[10:52] <sipior> gnomefreak: did you patch windows?
[10:52] <Slart> bcochofel: I'd check if it's some kind of codepage/language setting
[10:52] <sipior> bcochofel: don't bother replying to ubotu, he's cybernetic :)
[10:52] <Slart> bcochofel: and ubotu is a bot.. he's helpful in some ways but oh so stupid when it comes to conversation =)
[10:53] <mneptok> why Miranda and not GAIM?
[10:53] <bcochofel> Slart: I have my kbd correct and have my LANG var to pt
[10:53] <nibbo> Madpilot: nah, its a ipod, formatted and made to runt rockbox, witch i think is fat32. Rockbox makes it act like a normal usb-stick type mp3
[10:53] <bcochofel> thanks for the ubotu, didn't know
[10:53] <Slart> mneptok: because gaim works fine... if you want what gaim gives you.. not much you can change compared to miranda
[10:54] <desire> Slart can you help me with synpativ problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10453
[10:54] <Slart> bcochofel: no language/codepage settings in apache? I don't really remember, it's been a long time since I setup an apache server
[10:54] <Madpilot> nibbo, some sort of permissions error on mounting, then - not something I know much about, sorry. Someone else should be able to help you.
[10:55] <Slart> desire: from a quick look it seems like you've run into a bug.. I don't have a quick and easy answer for you.. sorry
[10:55] <bcochofel> Slart: don't know either, that's why I'm asking
[10:56] <nibbo> Madpilot: ok, thanks anyway :D
[10:56] <sipior> gnomefreak: did you patch windows?
[10:56] <Slart> bcochofel: ok, let me check my installation.. you can't get  and such to show?
Ooops! what a painful answer! But thank you anyway?
[10:56] <sipior> sorry, stupid xchat thinks it knows who i'm talking to better than i do...
[10:57] <Slart> bcochofel: or rather.. could you copy paste a small page that doesn't display right, in pastebin preferably
[10:57] <sipior> gnome: did you patch windows?
[10:57] <Slart> desire: there is probably some way to remove the package that isn't working.. but I'm not that good with the package system.. perhaps someone else is.. keep asking
[10:58] <Rooy> !fat32
[10:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:59] <gregors> guys I'm writing a script to install java6 with script on ubuntu how can I check in which repository I get make-jpkg-mustang ??
[10:59] <detectiveinspekt> how do I add intergal formulas in open office?
[11:00] <Dev1> first time user here, how can I tell that I've sucessfully installed nvidia drivers?
[11:00] <sipior> desire: i'd say try "apt-get -f" and see how that does
[11:00] <Slart> Dev1: you get a nice nvidia splash screen when starting X
[11:00] <Dev1> ah I see which I have not :/
[11:00] <Slart> Dev1: there are probably other ways too
[11:00] <detectiveinspekt> nevermind the window did not show
[11:01] <bcochofel> Slart: do you mean here or in apache? Here: , but in apache no good
[11:01] <gregors> detectiveinspekt, simple just use Insert->Object->Formule
[11:01] <Slart> bcochofel: aren't you trying to show some html-page using apache as a server?
[11:01] <gregors> And add a formula with Integral sign :)
[11:02] <detectiveinspekt> do you know how to insert logical operators also? like logical NAND?
[11:02] <gregors> I'm sure you will get enough special characters there detectiveinspekt
[11:03] <gregors> it's very good part of open office but you'll need some time to get used to it
[11:03] <Slart> grrr... I'm installing more and more KDE stuff on my gnome-machine.. if I keep this up I might as well run KDE full out.
[11:04] <bcochofel> Slart: yes, right
[11:04] <gregors> most efective editing of formula is by using text editing below I was writing some very large and complex formulas like that
[11:04] <tbf> how do i prevent ubuntu from clearing by shell history on startup?
[11:04] <Slart> bcochofel: is the page very big? can you paste it in the pastebin? just so I can try it on my local apache server.. see if I get the same thing here
[11:04] <tbf> this is not a pool machine, so killing the history is a real productivity killer
[11:05] <Madpilot> Gah. It seems only some Ubuntu apps talk to cups-pdf properly... and neither Firefox or Epiphany are among them...
[11:05] <gregors> how do I check package apt- repository origin ????
[11:05] <gregors> make-jpkg-mustang
[11:05] <Slart> gregors: have you tried looking at all the package info in synaptic?
[11:05] <gregors> Slart, well I did ....
[11:05] <bcochofel> Slart: yes, it has several frames. But I can try to get a smaller one
[11:06] <desire> thank you Slart! I wait here for someone who can resolve it.:)
[11:06] <phanter> is there an ubuntu feisty irc?
[11:06] <Slart> bcochofel: or if you can try creating a smaller page that still has the error.. that would be very useful
[11:06] <gregors> Slart, it says nothing about repository origin
[11:06] <tbf> Madpilot: dunno, maybe feisty will show some progress there - considering some gnome 2.18 apps switched to the printing framework of gtk
[11:06] <Madpilot> phanter, #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <Slart> gregors: hmm.. I'll take a look as soon as my synaptic is done installing
[11:07] <phanter> thanks
[11:07] <bcochofel> !pastebin
[11:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <Madpilot> tbf, we can only hope. I'm currently trying Opera, because it's got the most complete/complex printer setup of any of the three browers I'm currently running...
[11:07] <gregors> Slart, ok
[11:07] <gregors> the thing is that I need to check this in a bash script
[11:07] <soundray> Is there a way to find out from a running kernel the boot options with which it was started?
[11:08] <desire> gregors,can you help me with my problem,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10453
[11:08] <Slart> gregors: hmm.. what info do you need? the url for the package to download?
[11:08] <StoneNote> detectiveinspekt, you might want to check Open Office Documentation like OpenOffice.org HowTo: http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/formula/Formula_HowTo_1_0.pdf
[11:08] <gregors> exactly
[11:08] <andeol> after googling, searching forums and bugzillas I cannot find anyone having the same problem. Does anyone have an idea on what to do if nautilus views don't refresh automatically? I have a feeling my installation is borked somehow
[11:08] <gregors> I know just for trevino repository right now ...
[11:09] <bcochofel> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10458/
[11:09] <gregors> i need to check other repos if that package exists already Slart
[11:09] <tbf> Madpilot: well, and if the central printing dialog of gtk doesn't fill your needs, you always can leave constructive critism - which includes concrete use cases - on gnome's bugzilla
[11:10] <tbf> Madpilot: stressing it again: use-cases. as long as they are plausible and not too exotic there is not reason to not consider them
[11:11] <gregors> maybe I should ask this apt guys or something
[11:11] <sipior> tbf: is your HISTFILE environment variable set?
[11:11] <Madpilot> tbf, the use-case is pretty straightforward - output a given webpage as a multi-page PDF file. Actual implementation is proving harder than I thought it would be
[11:11] <nospi> hey+
[11:12] <tbf> sipior: yup it is, and during one session i have history -- but i want my history preserved during reboots
[11:12] <Slart> bcochofel: hmm.. I don't get accents either.. I'm thinking you'll have to specify your codepage in the html-file
[11:12] <sipior> tbf: and the .bash_history gets blown away at reboot? that's weird
[11:12] <Frogzoo> Madpilot: tried the cups PDF printer driver?
[11:12] <sipior> tbf: i did a quick grep of my /etc/rc.d and didn't notice anything that would do that
[11:13] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, that is cups-pdf, is it not?
[11:13] <sipior> tbf: besides it being generally bad policy for system scripts to touch user data :-)
[11:13] <tbf> sipior: duh, found the reason
[11:13] <sipior> tbf: don't keep me waiting, man :-)
[11:13] <Frogzoo> Madpilot: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[11:13] <tbf> sipior: sometimes it already helps someone tells you it should not be like that
[11:13] <tbf> sipior: for some reason root owns my history file
[11:14] <sipior> tbf: hmm, that'd do it :-)
[11:14] <mneptok> tbf: you have to specify a history file in order for bash to use one
[11:14] <tbf> sipior: maybe i am doing sudo bash too often :-)
[11:14] <sipior> tbf: yeah, i think i'll go check mine now...
[11:15] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, nice. Bookmarked for tomorrow, thanks. How did it get to be past 0300 while I was messing with this, anyway?
[11:15] <bcochofel> Slart: that's my problem, with that page on another computer I get accents and I can't seen to figure out the difference
[11:15] <soundray> tbf: probably. Use sudo -i instead, then it'll write the history to /root/
[11:15] <mneptok> tbf: and when you exit bash after running sudo, guess wha'ppens? ;)
[11:15] <tbf> mneptok: already found the reason: i somehow managed it to give root ownership of my bash history
[11:15] <mneptok> tbf: sudo did that
[11:15] <sipior> mneptok: he knows :)
[11:15] <tbf> sipior: nah, i just supposed
[11:16] <Slart> bcochofel: ah.. fixed it... what kind of editor do you use to edit the html files?
[11:16] <tbf> sipior, mneptok: thanks
[11:16] <bcochofel> Slart: emacs
[11:17] <bcochofel> Slart: but has the latin-iso defined, and I can get accents on that
[11:17] <bcochofel> I just edit that page on emacs and works on the other pc
[11:17] <tbf> Madpilot: tried to talk to the kind guys at #epiphany of irc.gnome.org or to their bugzilla?
[11:17] <Slart> bcochofel: if you just start up gedit and select save.. you can chose between utf-8 or western character coding.. chose the later.. or perhaps you can specify that you use utf in the <head> section
[11:18] <Madpilot> tbf, not yet, but I'll file bugs when I've done a bit more poking around. I hate filing vague bugs.
[11:18] <mneptok> bcochofel: don't specify a charset. let the browser figure it out.
[11:18] <bcochofel> Slart: under emacs I'm not using UTF
[11:18] <mneptok> tbf: what's broken in Epi now?
[11:18] <bcochofel> mneptok: I'm not. Under one apache I get accents and on the other I don't
[11:18] <tbf> mneptok: Madpilot just has some ideas how to improve printing
[11:18] <Slart> bcochofel: then you'll have to ask emacs to play nice with your text files.. I think this is a character encoding problem..
[11:19] <Slart> bcochofel: I don't use emacs myself so I cant help you there
[11:19] <StoneNote> bcochofel, are you using firefox?
[11:19] <tbf> Madpilot: good attitude
[11:19] <bcochofel> StoneNote: yes, but what has firefox to do with apache config?
[11:19] <Madpilot> mneptok, I'm having some trouble with cups-pdf & various browsers, not sure if the problem is user error, browsers being dumb, or cups-pdf in Edgy at this point
[11:20] <bcochofel> Slart: if the problem was emacs I wasn't able to see the accents on the other pc either, right?
[11:21] <StoneNote> bcochofel, the long answer is: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/content-negotiation.html  the short answer is type "about:config" on a firefpx address bar and then "langauge" in  the filter and see if your firefox is set up to negotiate an ENGLISH session with apache web servers
[11:21] <bcochofel> Slart: other files that I have where edited with quanta by someone else
[11:21] <Slart> bcochofel: one other thing.. if you're not specifying what encoding the html file is , <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /> , you can only use standard ascii I think.. which means no accents.. no  for swedes etc.. there are special codes for there &auml and such weirdness
[11:22] <soundray> Does a kernel store its boot options somewhere in the running system? /proc ?
[11:23] <tbf> soundray: /proc/cmdline
[11:23] <Slart> bcochofel: I guess you could setup your system to work for you but if you're going to show this to other people you'll have put this info in the html file.. so the reciever knows how to interpret the html source you're sending them
[11:23] <soundray> tbf: ah, thanks. I was looking deeper in the tree for some reason.
[11:23] <nospi>  /join #hacking
[11:24] <nospi> damn. no hackin channel :p
[11:24] <maverick> hey guys im trying to install java and im getting this error /usr/bin/fakeroot: 152: make-jpkg: not found
[11:24] <N3WB> Dosnt "Realtek PCI-E Gigabit Lan Connecter" Work with Ubuntu?
[11:25] <soundray> maverick: that program is provided by java-package. Do you have it installed?
[11:25] <Slart> bcochofel: I think you'll have to ask someone who knows html/web stuff if you want better explanations of this.. I don't think it's a matter of configuring your server in some special way
[11:25] <mneptok> maverick: why not just install it the right way/ ;)
[11:25] <bcochofel> Slart: well, I'm new to this site and was trying to fix this localy. The site it's on for a long time without problems
[11:26] <mneptok> maverick: use the package system. that's what it's there for.
[11:26] <Slart> bcochofel: I'll see if I can find some info on this for you.. hang on
[11:26] <bcochofel> Slart: for me I always include the encoding on the html files, and I know that's the right way, but I can change thousands of files now
[11:26] <maverick> mneptok, u assume im running the system with the package manager ;)
[11:26] <Slart> bcochofel: mm.. I see the problem..
[11:27] <N3WB> Dosnt "Realtek RTL8111B - Ethernet" work with Ubuntu?
[11:27] <mneptok> maverick: all Ubuntu installations have the package management tools
[11:28] <N3WB> Opz sorry for blod font
[11:29] <maverick> mneptok: lol, im use synaptic now
[11:29] <mneptok> and .... ?
[11:30] <Madpilot> tbf, mneptok - any idea where cups-pdf puts it's output files, by default? They aren't appearing in /$home...
[11:30] <z9999> We would like to be able to click on a file with a .txt extension and have it automatically open with gedit each time, not ask if we want to read or execute each time. Can we make gedit the default program to open all .txt files?
[11:30] <maverick> mneptok: although following ubuntu guide it says to use apt-get etc
[11:30] <xipietotec>  I'm having a hell of a problem, trying to make a new convert, and she finally got her wireless card "working" ( I use this in a very limited sense) but she can't seem to connect to anything http://rafb.net/p/7ljVlA44.html is the output from an ifup command
[11:30] <mneptok> Madpilot: /etc/cupspdf.conf (or somesuch)
[11:30] <bcochofel> Slart: well, this his even worse. I did put <meta ... charset..> and still I can't get accents
[11:30] <nospi> maverick, im from NSW, i just saw when you logged in it said optusnet.
[11:31] <mneptok> maverick: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[11:31] <Slart> bcochofel: try using iso-8859-1 instead of utf-8
[11:32] <bcochofel> Slart: that's what I did.
[11:32] <tbf> Madpilot: not really. i am not that deep with printing.
[11:32] <bcochofel> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
[11:32] <Slart> bcochofel: still doesn't work? that's odd
[11:32] <bcochofel> Slart: that's my problem
[11:32] <Slart> bcochofel: and you put it in the <head> ?
[11:32] <xipietotec> or, alternatively, is there a way to find out the AP address of a wireless router from being plugged into it with an ethernet cord?
[11:33] <bcochofel> I believe my apache2 it's passing files has utf-8
[11:33] <bcochofel> Slart: yes, within <head> and </head>
[11:33] <nospi> is there a way to play .wma files in ubuntu>?
[11:33] <mneptok> xipietotec: iwlist scan
[11:34] <xipietotec> mneptok: ethernet cords do not support scanning
[11:34] <flaminguican> Is there any way to install ubuntu without all of the extra garbage?
[11:34] <Madpilot> mneptok, /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf actually - but output is set to /$home/PDF, which I just created, and still not seeing any output there... bug report in the morning, I guess...
[11:34] <mneptok> xipietotec: wireless cards do
[11:34] <xipietotec> see, she's getting nothing from scanning via the wireless card (which we're trying to set up, but I can't seem to explain AP to her) so I need some other method of finding out the AP address of her router
[11:34] <Madpilot> flaminguican, define "extra garbage"?
[11:35] <Slart> bcochofel: ok.. check the file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf or similar
[11:35] <Slart> bcochofel: in that file is a section about default encoding
[11:35] <mneptok> xipietotec: my guess is that her card is not really set up
[11:35] <xipietotec> I *believe* her router firewall is blocking the machine.... http://rafb.net/p/7ljVlA44.html
[11:35] <flaminguican> Madpilot: I'd rather not have all of the games installed, or the "productivity" apps and such.  Basically, I just want a base system with drivers and a gui, no apps.
[11:35] <Slart> bcochofel: AddDefaultCharset to be more precise
[11:36] <maverick> well java is installed but not working in firefox
[11:36] <soundray> xipietotec: the errors you pasted point to a lower-level problem
[11:36] <mneptok> maverick: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[11:36] <soundray> maverick: i386 system?
[11:36] <bcochofel> Slart: ok, I was trying to find that same thing
[11:36] <maverick> x64
[11:36] <Madpilot> flaminguican, Ubuntu server install + sudo aptitude install gnome?
[11:37] <mneptok> maverick: no plugin for you!
[11:37] <soundray> maverick: no firefox plugin for amd64
[11:37] <maverick> gar
[11:37] <c0nv1ct> maverick: why are you using x64?
[11:37] <flaminguican> Madpilot: heh, I tried that before.  But the server install uses an entirely different kernel, which doesn't support my wireless network card and such.
[11:37] <mneptok> maverick: no Flash, either
[11:37] <soundray> maverick: search the forums for Kilz's instructions for installing firefox32
[11:37] <tehxed> How do I tell if I have open source drivers installed for my ATI Radeon 9800SE in Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10?
[11:37] <xipietotec> mneptok: http://rafb.net/p/Cb9l1I47.html this is what iwconfig and ifconfig print out...supposedly the device is up
[11:37] <maverick> i got a 64 bit cpu. i plan to go to 32 bit once next version of ubuntu comes out
[11:38] <mneptok> xipietotec: are you using ndiswrapper or firmware injection?
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> 64bit is only useful if you have tons of ram, and have a need to run 64bit apps
[11:38] <maverick> well yea
[11:38] <xipietotec> mneptok: fwcutter yes
[11:38] <verwilst> is there a way to disable dbconfig-common?
[11:38] <maverick> it was a late nite lol when i installed it
[11:38] <soundray> c0nv1ct: that's not entirely accurate
[11:38] <mneptok> xipietotec: internal card or PCMCIA?
[11:39] <c0nv1ct> soundray: then why else would you install a 64bit OS?
[11:39] <xipietotec> internal
[11:39] <mneptok> grah.
[11:39] <Slart> bcochofel: here's another article discussing this http://www.webstandards.org/learn/articles/askw3c/dec2002/
[11:39] <maverick> hey wats the release data for next version of ubuntu btw??
[11:39] <soundray> c0nv1ct: you can benefit from 64 bit processing with as little as 256 MB RAM
[11:39] <c0nv1ct> soundray: that beneifit is minimal
[11:39] <bcochofel> Slart: got it right, thanks so very much
[11:39] <mneptok> xipietotec: i'm SO glad we don't support Broadcom ;)
[11:39] <c0nv1ct> soundray: and at the cost of limited compatability
[11:40] <soundray> c0nv1ct: it depends on what you use your computer for
[11:40] <daschl> lo guys
[11:40] <Slart> bcochofel: no problem.. you're welcome
[11:40] <c0nv1ct> soundray: exactly, if you are accessing huge databases, then maybe it'll be useful
[11:40] <xipietotec> mneptok: I'm trying to convert her, and I have a broadcom in my laptop, that I got working, I can't figure out why hers isn't working...oi
[11:41] <c0nv1ct> soundray: that is why i said "unless you have a need to run 64bit apps"
[11:41] <N3WB> Ubuntu = 2.6.
[11:41] <N3WB> Ubuntu = 2.6.* Kernel?
[11:41] <mneptok> xipietotec: turn off all encryption on the WAP for testing
[11:41] <N3WB> !kernel > N3WB
[11:41] <soundray> c0nv1ct: I was referring to the part of your statement about RAM
[11:41] <c0nv1ct> soundray: that was only part of my statement :)
[11:41] <maverick> anyone using feisty?
[11:41] <mneptok> maverick: tons of people
[11:41] <soundray> maverick: #ubuntu+1
[11:42] <Madpilot> tbf, thanks for the assist, I'm going to crash and keep poking at this in the morning.
[11:42] <Madpilot> g'night, all
[11:42] <soundray> c0nv1ct: which is why I said it wasn't entirely accurate
[11:42] <maverick> i mite install herd 5 over the top of this 64bit install
[11:42] <aimaz> i would be using feisty but the torrent doesn't work nor does the jigdo download and the last time i tried to download the ISO it was removed before i finished downloading it
[11:43] <maverick> fark its slow only 40kb a sec download
[11:43] <maverick> ahh thats better going over 100 now
[11:43] <xipietotec> mneptok: okay, having her do that
[11:43] <c0nv1ct> soundray: i guess my "and" should of been an "and/or" to be entirely accurate
[11:43] <Slart> gregors: sorry for the delay.. have you tried using "apt-cache show packagename"... it will give you a couple of lines of info.. there's one line starting with filename that ought to be useful
[11:43] <xipietotec> mneptok: okay, her response is that there is no encryption
[11:44] <gregors> Slart, I'll check that ....
[11:44] <gregors> thank you very much Slart
[11:45] <tehxed> How long should I wait until I repost my question?
[11:46] <xipietotec> mneptok: evidently at one point her router spat out: Thu Mar 15 01:34:15 2007 1 Blocked by DoS protection 73.123.248.1
[11:46] <desire> anyone can resolve my problem please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10453/
[11:46] <soundray> tehxed: run 'grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf'. If you have a line containing 'ati', that's the open source driver.
[11:46] <soundray> tehxed: the binary one is fglrx
[11:47] <mneptok> xipietotec: talk to the router people
[11:47] <soundray> tehxed: also, try glxinfo
[11:47] <triplc> hi all, i've just install timidity; i need to add a soundfont (sf2) to replace the current (freepats) tone 24 (guitar) but i do not know how to do it. the soundfont file is downloaded but if i use "soundfont ...." directive in timidity.cfg, it simply change the tone 1 (piano). can anyone please help. i am sorry for asking about timidity here, but i do not know timidity channel. google does not have answer (sorry)
[11:47] <Slart> tehxed: if you post a question and noone answers it probably means noone knows the answer.. so wait until a number of new people has come in or until you think a couple of the sleepy ones here are awake.. I'd say about 5 minutes is enough
[11:47] <tehxed> soundray: I see a line that says ati..! Thank you.
[11:47] <tehxed> Slart: Thank you. I'll keep that in mind for future reference.
[11:48] <Gurpartap> accidentally changed download server in software sources to "Server for United States". And lost the option for own country. What's the way to get back to server for my own countryZ?
[11:48] <Gurpartap> s/countryZ/country/
[11:48] <AndrewWilliams> Gurpartap, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:49] <Gurpartap> oh right thanks
[11:49] <AndrewWilliams> change any .us to your two letter country code
[11:49] <AndrewWilliams> then do a apt-get update
[11:49] <bullgard4> What means 'raw binary'? Synaptic writes under 'acpidump': "utilities to dump system's ACPI tables to an ASCII file. This package contains a small collection of utilities ACPI system tables:* acpidump: to dump tables, * acpixtract: to convert ASCII acpidump output to raw binary; * acpitbl: to dump the table header or contents of a raw ACPI table. Note: Upstream package is called pmtools."
[11:49] <DavidHKMrPowers> i want to know the number of logins in gmail/yahoo/hotmail per day
[11:49] <soundray> Gurpartap: best to exit synaptic before you edit sources.list
[11:49] <desire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10453/ anyone can help me?Please!
[11:50] <AndrewWilliams> or, just change it back in the Software Sources panel
[11:50] <voltagex> netinstaller has halted on "Setting Up the Clock"
[11:51] <Gurpartap> voltagex, similar thing happened in livecd install too, way is don't set time while installation, change it later on
[11:51] <Gurpartap> and for now restart installation
[11:52] <voltagex> uhh, does that mean I have to download everything again?
[11:53] <desire> can I reinstall my system UBuntu through internet?
[11:53] <Gurpartap> don't know any way, someone else might have a solution
[11:53] <Gurpartap> desire, ask voltagex
[11:53] <Gurpartap> :)
[11:53] <shilpi> hi how do i install gnu make
[11:53] <jrib> shilpi: install build-essential
[11:53] <Gurpartap> build-essential
[11:53] <jrib> !compiling | shilpi
[11:53] <ubotu> shilpi: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:54] <soundray> desire: what do you want to do now? Fix the packaging error or reinstall?
[11:54] <Gurpartap> shilpi, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:54] <desire> Voltagex, can I reinstall my system through Internet with eth0?
[11:54] <shilpi> ok i';ll try that thanks :)
[11:54] <razzorz> Morning all
[11:55] <Tricore> Hey
[11:55] <razzorz> is there a yahoo protocal chat program for ubunto
[11:55] <desire> soundray if I can fix the package, then I need not to reinstall anymore
[11:55] <tehxed> I get a line that says "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" when I do "glxinfo | grep direct" in terminal. I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy#head-9be938b13755765a0351ab019a5aab89a3ec1114   to install Beryl on my Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 (64bit). It says if I get "direct rendering: Yes", my video card should work. Do I still have to modify that xorg.conf (for 'Enable compo
[11:55] <tehxed> siting in X')  with the information listed (for ATI) in that guide?
[11:55] <Tricore> Is it possible to play Apple Lossless Format encoded audio files under Ubuntu ?
[11:55] <soundray> desire: please pastebin the contents of /tmp/texlive.fmtutil.sZqn7150
[11:56] <razzorz> guess thats a no....
[11:56] <desire> soundray, how?
[11:56] <cwillu> can anyone tell me offhand what a typical power consumption of an idle low-end workstation would be?  (400mhz'ish, one hd)
[11:56] <soundray> desire: run 'cat /tmp/texlive.fmtutil.sZqn7150' and do the same as you did with your other post on pastebin.
[11:56] <voltagex> cwillu: Official Aussie power rating: bugger all
[11:56] <SubMOA> how come './configure" isn't found?
[11:57] <cafuego_> What arch? What disk?
[11:57] <cwillu> voltagex, and if I have 6?  running 24/7?
[11:57] <soundray> SubMOA: it's not in the current directory
[11:57] <voltagex> cwillu: bugger all x6
[11:57] <desire> soundray, thank you! I go to paste it
[11:57] <cwillu> voltagex, I'm trying to convince people that my 6headed monstrosity might or might not be saving power
[11:57] <mneptok> SubMOA: because there's no such file in the pwd?
[11:57] <Tricore> Is it possible to play Apple Lossless Format encoded audio files under Linux ?
[11:57] <SubMOA> hmm
[11:57] <voltagex> cwillu: sorry, I don't know enough to be serious
[11:57] <razzorz> lol cwillu
[11:57] <soundray> cwillu: 30 to 50 W without monitor
[11:57] <cwillu> voltagex, is that a bigger all, or just half a deca-bugger?
[11:58] <SubMOA> wherre would it be?  I tried it in my home folder and in "/"
[11:58] <cwillu> soundray, at idle?  k, thanks
[11:58] <cafuego_> cwillu: 6 400Mhz old crufty machines would certainly eat more power then a single modern 3GHz one
[11:58] <cwillu> cafuego, that's what I'm hoping
[11:58] <kmeng> hello
[11:58] <kmeng> df
[11:58] <gn0me> I've installed Ubuntu on VMware, made it as Guest OS, while Windows XP is my main OS, Ubuntu was working flawlessly, I can connect to internet etc, until today, I couldn't connect to the internet with my Ubuntu, I have "x" next to the connection on the notification area, but Windows XP works great with the internet, any idae plz?
[11:58] <TheInfinity> hmm ... in 6.10 theres an known cyrus error - something like
[11:58] <TheInfinity> Mar 11 18:48:18 landwege-server cyrus/notify[5813] : incorrect version of Berkeley db: compiled against 4.3.29, linked against 4.4.20
[11:58] <TheInfinity> Mar 11 18:48:18 landwege-server cyrus/notify[5813] : Fatal error: wrong db version
[11:58] <voltagex> cafuego: ah, I forgot older PSUs are more likely to be inefficient
[11:58] <cafuego_> cwillu: The old PSUs probably lose more power than a new box uses when idle.
[11:58] <razzorz> ok am i way off base.. can ubunto get voice for chat?
[11:59] <TheInfinity> the bug is known since october, when is it possible to get a fix?
[11:59] <cafuego_> voltagex: And odler disks eat more power
[11:59] <SubMOA> razzorz, my distro (edgy) came with ekigia (sp?)
[11:59] <razzorz> yes ok..
[11:59] <cwillu> TheInfinity, you can probably compile your own version (usually not too hard), or see if somebody's packaged a 4.4 deb anywhere
[12:00] <razzorz> i kinda lookin for a yahoo chat protocal client
[12:00] <voltagex> cafuego_: hmm, interesting. You'd think with the amount of heat the core 2 duos put out they'd burn more, same with 10k rpm drives
[12:00] <gregors> Hmm one question is wget in ubuntu by default ??????
[12:00] <TheInfinity> how to find it cwillu?
[12:00] <SubMOA> I use that... I THINK you can integrate most popular chat clients with it... it may be a nother, thogh... openwegno is supposedly good, but I can't get it to work
[12:00] <razzorz> whats chances?
[12:00] <razzorz> ok
[12:00] <cafuego_> voltagex: new bearings, less drag
[12:00] <SubMOA> razzorz, not certain of the yahoo thing
[12:00] <SubMOA> one sec
[12:00] <razzorz> i c
[12:00] <razzorz> sure i will be here
[12:00] <mneptok> razzorz: GAIM
[12:00] <cwillu> TheInfinity, google for that name + debian OR ubuntu OR deb, or go to the db's homepage, and look for compilation instructions
[12:00] <mneptok> razzorz: already installed
[12:00] <voltagex> cafuego_: oh, do you mean a drive that is x years old will use less power than the same model that is x+2 years old?
[12:01] <desire> Soundray I have pasted it! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10460/
[12:01] <razzorz> yes but no chat rooms nor voice
[12:01] <cafuego_> CPU wise, a 400 MHz P3 uses just under half the power a current AMD64 uses
[12:01] <gregors> Hmm one question is wget in ubuntu by default anyone ???
[12:01] <voltagex> cafuego_: but can support far less users than a 3ghz machine
[12:01] <cafuego_> exactly
[12:01] <SubMOA> razzorz, http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/
[12:01] <SirOSOriS> did u know that australia is an evil place to be?
[12:01] <cafuego_> a P4 eats more power then god
[12:01] <cwillu> gregors, believe so
[12:02] <SubMOA> have you seen that razzorz
[12:02] <razzorz> ty i will look
[12:02] <cwillu> cafuego, conveniently, I'm just replacing 166
[12:02] <cwillu> bah
[12:02] <soundray> desire: how much memory do you have in your machine?
[12:02] <cafuego_> SirOSOriS: No, they didn't advrtise that on the immigration form.
[12:02] <gregors> ok
[12:02] <voltagex> cafuego_: so if you were going to get anal about it, it would be less power per user
[12:02] <cwillu> 166's-400's with a single 1ghz
[12:02] <desire> Soundray 256M
[12:02] <mneptok> razzorz: uhhhh .... GAIM does Y! chat
[12:02] <cafuego_> voltagex: The new machine? Yes, that's the idea :-)
[12:02] <voltagex> cafuego_: we're evil buggers, strewth, stone the crows we're evil
[12:02] <shilpi> when i type this in terminal :sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:02] <_JP> hi. i'm creating a .deb package with checkinstall. i'm able to add required package dependencies with "--requires=blaa" but how do i specify the required version? "--requires=blaa>=1.2.3" doesn't work; the version is not taken into account by checkinstall but an empty file called "=1.2.3" is created in cwd
[12:02] <shilpi> i get
[12:02] <desire> with hd 20G
[12:02] <shilpi> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:02] <SubMOA> mneptok, he want's voice chat
[12:02] <shilpi> sudo timestamp too far in future
[12:02] <SirOSOriS> why would they. the United Nations wont stop the murder of innocent civilians here
[12:02] <SirOSOriS> neither will the police
[12:03] <cafuego_> !topic | SirOSOriS
[12:03] <ubotu> SirOSOriS: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[12:03] <desire> Soundray with 20 G Harddisk
[12:03] <Gurpartap> ubuntu repos are slow today?
[12:03] <mneptok> SirOSOriS: i told you once about #ubuntu-offtopic. this is your last reminder.
[12:03] <SirOSOriS> dont you know what ubuntu means?
[12:03] <SirOSOriS> i am on topic
[12:04] <SirOSOriS> unless ur evil too
[12:04] <apokryphos> SirOSOriS: stop.
[12:04] <soundray> desire: it fails apparently because you are compiling to many language related TeX items. Do you really need mongolian, finnish and all that stuff?
[12:04] <apokryphos> SirOSOriS: this is a *support* channel. #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for general chatter.
[12:04] <Gurpartap> SirOSOriS, u r disturbed, control please, we all sympathize u
[12:04] <shilpi> GNU make is not present in ubuntu repositories ..i enabled all repositories .. i'musing 6.06
[12:04] <cafuego_> telstra user, kinda like aol, except worse
[12:04] <Menasim1> when I want to install a packege it will tell me E: Couldn't find package audacity
[12:04] <SirOSOriS> not in australia Gurpartap
[12:05] <cafuego_> thx mneptok
[12:05] <desire> Soundray, In fact I have not chosen them. and I have tried to remove them. but they just like king come back and back again
[12:05] <voltagex> go mnetpok
[12:05] <apokryphos> Menasim1: then you haven't got all the necessary repos, or you're typing the package name wrong. See the FAQ in /topic
[12:05] <cafuego_> Honestly, if someone here *would* torture such morons I think we'd all be happier ;-)
[12:06] <cwillu> I love power saving websites that compare what a computer uses at 100 usage with what it uses in suspend mode
[12:06] <cwillu> "gee, thanks for the misleading information"
[12:06] <mneptok> shilpi: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:06] <soundray> desire: do you need TeX at all?
[12:06] <cafuego_> cwillu: You're replacing a bunch of Pentiums with a 1GH P3?
[12:06] <desire> Soundray, and the Synaptic will always automatically search and reinstall them
[12:06] <desire> yes
[12:06] <cwillu> cafuego, yep
[12:07] <SubMOA>  voltagex how's that looking for you?
[12:07] <cafuego_> cwillu: Well, the P3 uses around 30Watts
[12:07] <shilpi> mneptok:  timestamp too far in the future: Mar 15 21:11:11 2007
[12:07] <desire> Soundray, yes I need it
[12:07] <cwillu> cafuego_:  yep;  prototype machine is built, and survived the initial testing
[12:07] <SubMOA> cafuego, 30 or 300?
[12:07] <voltagex> SubMOA: err, what?
[12:07] <my_haz> how do i set up so to use a gateway?
[12:07] <cafuego_> cwillu: A 166 would use around 9-10
[12:07] <soundray> desire: and do you prefer texlive over tetex?
[12:07] <cwillu> SubMOA, probably 30;  we're talking average, not peak
[12:08] <cafuego_> SubMOA: 30 - just the cpu
[12:08] <SubMOA> voltagex, opps, sorry... mistaken identity... good thing I wasn't a hit man
[12:08] <my_haz> i have a fbsd gateway box and i need a ubuntu box to connect to inet via that fbsd box
[12:08] <SubMOA> cwillu, cafuego oOo, cool
[12:08] <mneptok> shilpi: sudo ntpdate tick.berkeley.netdot.net && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:08] <voltagex> my_haz: do you know the IP of the fbsd box?
[12:08] <cwillu> so, saving about 20 watts an hour, plus a bit more if the box handles sleep better (unused about 8 hours a day)
[12:08] <desire> Soundray it is equal for me.
[12:08] <cafuego_> cwillu: The P3 should be able to use cpu frequence scalong
[12:08] <gn0me> I've installed Ubuntu on VMware, made it as Guest OS, while Windows XP is my main OS, Ubuntu was working flawlessly, I can connect to internet etc, until today, I couldn't connect to the internet with my Ubuntu, I have "x" next to the connection on the notification area, but Windows XP works great with the internet, any idae plz?
[12:08] <mario> hi
[12:08] <cafuego_> cwillu: And if it's idle and clocks down, it will use less power.
[12:08] <my_haz> voltagex: yes
[12:08] <SubMOA> razzorz, still reading?
[12:09] <desire> SoundrayI just want a tex, which work properly
[12:09] <soundray> desire: shall we try to get rid of all texlive stuff then, so you can install tetex?
[12:09] <voltagex> my_haz: /etc/networks
[12:09] <desire> Soundray, jut tell me what to do, you are my last straw
[12:09] <mario> what i shout to write in sourcelist to instal kadu
[12:09] <SubMOA> oh yea... I almost forgot my question:  where is ./configure located?  I thought it was a command... like "man" or "ical" that worked anywhere
[12:10] <desire> Now I am under KDE 3.5
[12:10] <SubMOA> ...I know ical isn't a command... but... well, it works in whatever directory I am in
[12:10] <desire> Soundray, I am using KDE 3.5 Desktop
[12:10] <cafuego_> SubMOA: It's typically included in a software source tarball or generated by autotools from configure.in files
[12:10] <desire> Soundray, will that bother you?
[12:10] <SubMOA> cafuego, that's what the "./" means, right?  does "configure" by itself do anything?
[12:10] <soundray> desire: no, we can do it in konsole or any other terminal.
[12:11] <desire> ok
[12:11] <SubMOA> cafuego, and if my tarball doesn't have it... can I make one or what?
[12:11] <cafuego_> SubMOA: it's a script that's unique for a specific source tree, it calls macros and searches for installed packages/headers/libraries/compilers.
[12:11] <desire> Soundray, tell me what to do?
[12:11] <cafuego_> SubMOA: It may not need one, depends on the source.
[12:11] <SubMOA> cafuego, oOo...
[12:11] <mario> mowi tu ktos po polsku
[12:11] <soundray> desire: what we have to do is force a success on all the texlive-lang packages. It's a bit involved:
[12:12] <desire> Ok! I can follow every step you tell me!
[12:12] <SubMOA> well I downloaded a tar... untared it (grammer?) and found the "installation" file... i am readin git and it says to type 'To Configure, type './configure <options>'
[12:12] <desire> Soundray, I will follow you.
[12:12] <soundray> desire: 'for i in /var/lib/dpkg/info/texlive-lang* ; do echo -e '#!/bin/bash'\\n exit 0 >$i ; done'
[12:12] <soundray> desire: then 'dpkg --configure -a'
[12:12] <my_haz> so how do i use /etc/networks to configure this box to use a gateway?
[12:12] <SubMOA> and the optoin is '--with-gtk-ui=<yes/no>
[12:12] <SubMOA> 			Controls Whether the GTK UI Is Built. Default: Yes
[12:13] <soundray> desire: hold on...
[12:13] <soundray> desire: have you done it already?
[12:14] <desire> I am working on it
[12:14] <soundray> desire: slight modification
[12:14] <soundray> desire: 'for i in /var/lib/dpkg/info/texlive-lang*postinst ; do echo -e '#!/bin/bash'\\n exit 0 >$i ; done'
[12:15] <desire> Soundray  i in /var/////texliv-lang*postinst should I also write in console
[12:16] <soundray> desire: %for i in /var/lib/dpkg/info/texlive-lang*postinst ; do echo -e '#!/bin/bash'\\n exit 0 >$i ; done%
[12:16] <soundray> desire: everything *between* the % marks
[12:16] <soundray> desire: can you cut and paste it?
[12:17] <bony> i am unable to open pdf file's from firefox. I installed adobe acrobat 7 and installed the plguin too but when click a pdf file a pop up box comes saying "Could not launch Adobe reader 7. Please make sure it exists in the PATH variable in environment".
[12:17] <tehxed> I get a line that says "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" when I do "glxinfo | grep direct" in terminal. I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy#head-9be938b13755765a0351ab019a5aab89a3ec1114   to install Beryl on my Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 (64bit). It says if I get "direct rendering: Yes", my video card should work. Do I still have to modify that xorg.conf (for 'Enable compo
[12:17] <tehxed> siting in X')  with the information listed (for ATI) in that guide?
[12:18] <bony> how to set the path?
[12:18] <nospi> my psp usb mode is not being recognised by ubuntu
[12:18] <nospi> are there any packages i need to install?
[12:18] <F00BaR> From SSH, how do i remove PHP5 and install PHP4
[12:18] <soundray> bony: have you installed the acroread package from the repos? If you do that, it should already be on the path.
[12:19] <SubMOA> ok, I clicked on the "configure" icon and had it run in terminal... how do I "make" it?
[12:20] <IdleOne> SubMOA, not sure what you are compiling but in terminal just type make
[12:20] <desire> Soundray, permission denied
[12:20] <bony> soundray, no i installed acrobat from adobe's site
[12:20] <F00BaR> Soundray: From SSH, how do i remove PHP5 and install PHP4
[12:21] <SubMOA> the terminal has closed IdleOne will it "know" to make that
[12:21] <soundray> desire: do a 'sudo -i', enter your user password, then paste the command again
[12:21] <desire> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[12:22] <soundray> bony: that's not such a good choice. Still, you can set up the path to /etc/environment
[12:22] <soundray> bony: in, rather
[12:22] <SubMOA> MUAHAHAHA I got it!
[12:22] <IdleOne> SubMOA, like I said I am not certain what it is you are compiling
[12:22] <F00BaR> Soundray: From SSH, how do i remove PHP5 and install PHP4
[12:23] <SubMOA> after "make" I am good to go, right?  It's called cire
[12:23] <soundray> desire: you must have missed something
[12:23] <IdleOne> SubMOA, usualy it's ./configure make and then make install
[12:23] <desire> I have already done
[12:23] <soundray> desire: has it worked now?
[12:23] <SubMOA> IdleOne, so i just typed "make" and it did some hoodoo voodoo, now "make install"
[12:23] <desire> Soundray, look
[12:23] <IdleOne> yes
[12:23] <desire> feng@feng-laptop:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ sudo -i
[12:23] <desire> root@feng-laptop:~# for i in /var/lib/dpkg/info/texlive-lang*postinst ; do echo -e '#!/bin/bash'\\n exit 0 >$i ; done
[12:23] <desire> root@feng-laptop:~#
[12:24] <SubMOA> thanks!
[12:24] <N3WB> anyone got a vlc.deb installer?
[12:24] <soundray> desire: well done, now "dpkg --configure -a"
[12:24] <SubMOA> I got an "error 1" an "error 2" and then an "error 1" again
[12:25] <IdleOne> SubMOA, is there not a readme file in the .gz file you downloaded?
[12:25] <F00BaR> IdleOne
[12:25] <F00BaR> can you help
[12:25] <IdleOne> F00BaR, dont know
[12:25] <bony> soundray, ok i will try that
[12:25] <SubMOA> IdleOne, I'm an idiot... I'm sorry, RTFM, I know... I looked, but I must have glazed over it...
[12:25] <Rooy> SubMOA: the helpful error is the first line with "error" in it, not the last one
[12:26] <F00BaR> IdleOne From SSH, how do i remove PHP5 and install PHP4
[12:26] <SubMOA> rooy
[12:26] <SubMOA> rooy, would you like me to copy paste?
[12:26] <SubMOA> IdleOne, turns out the readme is junk
[12:26] <IdleOne> SubMOA, no no we dont use the RTFM in here . I was saying check the readme file because it should have instructions on installing
[12:26] <Rooy> SubMOA only the first line with "error"
[12:26] <desire> Soundray, I have done
[12:26] <desire> Setting up texlive-lang-ukenglish (2005-2) ...
[12:26] <desire> Setting up texlive-lang-german (2005-2) ...
[12:26] <desire> root@feng-laptop:~#
[12:27] <desire> That is the last two lines
[12:27] <IdleOne> F00BaR, sorry i dont know. be patient someone will be along sooner or later that can help
[12:27] <SubMOA> well, reading it... I think I need to sudo it...
[12:27] <SubMOA> /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/bin/cire': Permission denied
[12:27] <SubMOA> make[2] : *** [install-binPROGRAMS]  Error 1
[12:27] <IdleOne> SubMOA, yes sudo
[12:27] <soundray> desire: now run 'apt-get --purge remove texlive ; apt-get autoremove'
[12:27] <SubMOA> MAHA!
[12:27] <Rooy> SubMOA: exactly, and it didn't contain "error" ;)
[12:28] <desire> roger that Soundray
[12:28] <cafuego_> SubMOA: Don't sue sudo.
[12:28] <bullgard4> What means 'raw binary'? Synaptic writes under 'acpidump': "utilities to dump system's ACPI tables to an ASCII file. This package contains a small collection of utilities ACPI system tables:* acpidump: to dump tables, * acpixtract: to convert ASCII acpidump output to raw binary; * acpitbl: to dump the table header or contents of a raw ACPI table. Note: Upstream package is called pmtools."
[12:28] <SubMOA> rooy... last two words... :O)
[12:28] <cafuego_> SubMOA: use 'sudo checkinstall'
[12:28] <SubMOA> cafuego, pun or should I really not do "sudo su"
[12:29] <IdleOne> SubMOA, listen to cafuego sudo checkintall will make a .deb you can uninstall if need to later
[12:29] <cafuego_> SubMOA: Using `checkinstall' (you may need to apt-get that) will allow you to build a .deb, for easy management.
[12:29] <asianCOOL> got a question
[12:29] <asianCOOL> i did dpkg -r package
[12:29] <Zta> My Ubuntu server runs with locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 as its only locale.  I'd like to change this to da_DK.UTF-8?  Or at least add the locale?  locale -a  only provides C, POSIX, and en_US.utf8 (and doesn't this match $LANG?)
[12:29] <Rooy> SubMOA: "sudo su" is definitely no-no, as people may forget they are root always
[12:29] <asianCOOL> then the package is marked as "purge"
[12:29] <asianCOOL> it still exist there
[12:29] <asianCOOL> how to remove it?
[12:29] <jrib> asianCOOL: dpkg --purge
[12:30] <SubMOA> so "su" overrides the (I think) 15 minute auto-log off?
[12:30] <asianCOOL> after i issued  that
[12:30] <asianCOOL> i get dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove pvm which isn't installed.
[12:30] <asianCOOL> but it still there
[12:30] <Rooy> SubMOA: i diddn;t know that 15min before
[12:30] <desire> Soundray, hold on, the computer is working on it
[12:30] <soundray> bullgard4: in this case, my guess is that it's just a machine-readable format
[12:30] <SubMOA> cafuego, IdleOne I did do a checkinstall... seems to be working... what exactly is the advantage of checkinstall
[12:30] <SubMOA> rooy... I'm not sure if I'm right
[12:30] <asianCOOL> after i execuate dpkg --purge package
[12:30] <asianCOOL> i get dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove pvm which isn't installed.
[12:31] <asianCOOL> but pvm still in my machine
[12:31] <Rooy> SubMOA: checkinstall create a deb file which registers with apt which files it installs
[12:31] <SubMOA> rooy, oOo
[12:31] <michiel__> hello
[12:31] <Rooy> SubMOA: so later on you can cleanly remove it
[12:31] <SubMOA> hi
[12:32] <Heroin> hallo
[12:32] <pubo> Hi everyone :)
[12:32] <SubMOA> rooy, oOo, ok... would if it has a dependency that is shared, would it remove that as well, possibly crippling my other programs?
[12:32] <soundray> desire: when it's done, run 'apt-get install tetex-bin tetex-extra tetex-doc' and you'll have a nice TeX setup with latex2e, pdflatex and everything.
[12:32] <Zta> How do I add a locale?
[12:32] <cafuego_> SubMOA: Now the package system knows about all the files you just installed.
[12:32] <michiel__> does anyone know of a signal monitoring tool? (process signalls you can also send with kill (SIGALARM,SIGTERM,SIGKILL,etc)
[12:32] <cafuego_> SubMOA: No, it a CRUDE deb, it has no depends :-)
[12:32] <SubMOA> cafuego, oOo, ok
[12:32] <SubMOA> cafuego, hehe, ok, thanks
[12:32] <pubo> Has anybody configure propperly Beryl + AIGLX + ATI Xpress 200M???
[12:32] <Rooy> SubMOA: in the checkinstall step, people can say what're dependencies, you didn't, so nothing got effected
[12:33] <pubo> I have a laptop with this card and I can't configure it :S
[12:33] <michiel__> I want to know which process send my process a signal
[12:33] <jrib> asianCOOL: dpkg -l pvm    on pastebin please
[12:33] <soundray> asianCOOL: the pvm you have on your system still probably hasn't been installed from an ubuntu package.
[12:33] <desire> Soundray, it look quite healty. Thank you very much!
[12:33] <SubMOA> cafuego, Rooy IdleOne that you SOOO much!  one other question real quick:  to open this program, and then close the terminal, i would type "<program> &" right?
[12:33] <SubMOA> i wouldn't use nohup as that is for keeping something running even though I may  log off or switch users, right?
[12:33] <Rooy> SubMOA: you can use the app launcher alt+f2
[12:33] <pubo> Anybody has installed Festy in an ATI 200M??
[12:34] <asianCOOL> nvm , desire. i already reinstall pvm
[12:34] <soundray> desire: enter 'exit' in that shell now, because it's still running with advanced privileges (dangerous)
[12:34] <SubMOA> rooy... true... I think I want to stick to terminal, though, as I'm trying to learn it... i will use the launcher, though, for sure when I get in a pinch...
[12:34] <soundray> pubo: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[12:34] <tant102> I've just installed Ubuntu, and trying to get dual monitors working. I've got a Nvidia Geforce FX 5200, and managed to install the binary driver. With this I get only one screen, and back into a single processor kernel. Any thoughts?
[12:34] <desire> you mean after apt-get install tetex-bin tetex-extra tetex-doc or now
[12:34] <pubo> soundray, thanks
[12:34] <soundray> desire: after
[12:35] <Rooy> tant102: about the single processor kernel, you need linux-restricted-modules-generic so you can use the binary driver with the generic kernel
[12:35] <desire> Soundray: ok! I have to wait for that. can you belive It will make 194M free space!
[12:36] <tant102> Rooy, but the binary driver depends on a non generic kernel. Wont it just ignore my choice?
[12:36] <OrTigaS> where is the latest tutorial in installing xgl/compiz in Dapper
[12:37] <Rooy> tant102: you can installl both -generic and -i386, later on you can try removing the -i386 to see if the driver depends on that
[12:37] <soundray> desire: well, yes...
[12:38] <Jstuts5797> Hello I am having a problem installing themes.  I have downloaded several themes as a tar.gz file. When I go to install the theme I get the error message "invaild file format" I've tried several different themes. What could I be doing wrong?
[12:38] <IdleOne> how do I remove old kernels from my system?
[12:38] <Rooy> tant102: nvidia-glx just depends directly on linux-restricted-modules-common, so i'm sure -generic will work
[12:39] <IdleOne> Jstuts5797, if it's a gdm theme you need to go to System > Administration > Login window to install the theme
[12:39] <soundray> IdleOne: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic' or similar
[12:39] <tant102> Rooy: roger, time for a reboot. =)
[12:39] <Jstuts5797> hmmm ok
[12:40] <IdleOne> soundray, I have about 6 or seven kernels how can I list the kernels so I know what to remove?
[12:40] <Zta> How do I add a locale to my list of "locale -a" to use in e.g. $LANG or $LC_MESSAGES?
[12:40] <Jstuts5797> wow ok
[12:40] <Jstuts5797> I kept trying to use System>preferences>Theme
[12:41] <IdleOne> Jstuts5797, yeah I did the same mistake
[12:41] <soundray> IdleOne: 'dpkg -l linux-image-2*' (zoom out and make the window as wide as possible to see the full package names'
[12:41] <soundray> )
[12:41] <tant102> Rooy: thanks, that helped. now i only need to get both monitors up. =)
[12:42] <Jstuts5797> is there anyway to preview the theme before actually using it?
[12:42] <desire> Soundray as did the apt-get remove things I got problem with language polish
[12:42] <desire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10467/
[12:42] <OrTigaS> where can i find latest tutorial in installing xgl/compiz in Dapper?
[12:42] <Jstuts5797> Like I"m noticing that I selected the new theme but nothing has changed. Do I need to restart for the theme to take effect
[12:42] <Jstuts5797> ?
[12:42] <Rooy> tant102 maybe look in output of nvidia-xconfig --advanced-help for smt helpful
[12:43] <ph8> eep - i've just installed apache2-mpm-event and i don't have apachectl! can anyone tell me which package contains it?
[12:43] <nospi> My psp usb device is not recognized, it used to work fine in windows
[12:43] <Gurpartap> are the ubuntu repos slow today :'( ?
[12:43] <Gurpartap> or is it only me? :(
[12:44] <desire> Soundray, the process returns with the following sentences
[12:44] <desire> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:44] <desire>  texlive-lang-polish
[12:44] <desire> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:44] <tant102> Rooy, do you know of any graphical interface to xorg.conf, preferably something similar to the display settings that windows is using?
[12:44] <ikonia_> tant102 gnome has a display properites
[12:44] <IdleOne> soundray, ty
[12:44] <nospi> what do i have to install to get 3ddesktop working?
[12:44] <Rooy> tant102: nvidia-glx comes with nvidia-settings
[12:45] <my_haz> how do i set up the dns stuff when my box uses a gateway?
[12:45] <ikonia_> nospi install it - and configure it
[12:45] <Rooy> nospi: special interest group is in #ubuntu-effects
[12:45] <tant102> nvidia-settings looks right, thanks once again. =)
[12:45] <ikonia_> my_haz your gateway will probably supply the dns servers via dhcp
[12:45] <Rooy> nospi: sorry, wrong reading
[12:45] <Jstuts5797> IdleOne: Do I need to restart my machine for the new theme to take effect?
[12:45] <my_haz> i can connect to the inet no problem but the dns isn't working through the gateway :(
[12:45] <nospi> ikonia, thanks
[12:45] <IdleOne> Jstuts5797, yes
[12:45] <Rooy> tant102: you're welcome
[12:45] <OrTigaS> !xgl/compiz
[12:45] <nospi> Rooy, sorry, is there a channel list so that i can look these things up? i'll head there now
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xgl/compiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <Jstuts5797> wow ok
[12:46] <Rooy> nospi: i know that because people ask ubotu stuffs )
[12:46] <nospi> Rooy, oh ok :P
[12:47] <Jstuts5797> IdolOne: Once the theme is installed can I delete the file from my desktop or does it need to remain?
[12:48] <IdleOne> Jstuts5797, I believe you can delete the .gz yeah
[12:48] <Jstuts5797> ok cool. Thanks alot!
[12:48] <Jstuts5797> =)
[12:48] <ikonia_> the .gz is not referenced
[12:48] <UbuntuniX> Installing WoW on ubuntu, can't open drive for next disc because it's busy... Little help?
[12:48] <bullgard4> soundray: What you have called 'machine-readable format' was called 'machine code' in earlier times, wasn't it?
[12:48] <my_haz> how do i dns resolution via my gateway?
[12:48] <ikonia_> its copied into either ~/.theme or /usr/share/theme
[12:49] <ikonia_> my_haz what is your gateay device, an ADSL router or a server
[12:49] <nospi> anyone know anything about the usb device not recognised thing?
[12:49] <nospi> it doesn't even pick it up
[12:49] <ikonia_> nospi maybe your usb ports don't work or the device is broke
[12:49] <soundray> desire: what was the command you entered?
[12:49] <Rooy> nospi: try dmesg and see at the end
[12:49] <nospi> ikonia, it works fine on windows
[12:49] <keith> Im using ubuntu 6.10 how do I see how much hd space I have used or left?
[12:49] <my_haz> ikonia_: its an fbsd box
[12:49] <soundray> bullgard4: no, "machine code" implies that it is executable
[12:50] <gn0me> keith df -h , i think
[12:50] <ikonia_> my_haz then you either need to set up freebsd box as a dns forwarder or as a dhcp server to supply dns info
[12:50] <bullgard4> soundray: Ah, yes. So thank you for explaining.
[12:50] <Rooy> nospi: my front ports suddenly acted up today; [ 5937.721263]  usb 1-3: device descriptor read/64, error -62
[12:50] <ikonia_> keith df -h or right click on the driver and properties - like you do in windows
[12:50] <nospi> [17190996.436000]  usb 4-1: device not accepting address 5, error -110
[12:50] <ikonia_> Rooy did he say that earlier ?
[12:50] <d13egu> Hello. The kernel and modules of Ubuntu and Xubuntu they are equal ??
[12:51] <ikonia_> d13egu same kernel
[12:51] <soundray> bullgard4: "raw binary" can be an image, for example, where each pixel is represented by a grey value.
[12:51] <keith> ikonia: actually  its strange I cant see my hard disk on the desktop
[12:51] <desire> I have just pasted you commands? or maybe I tipped, but I can not find the command anymore
[12:51] <d13egu> ikonia and modules config?
[12:51] <gn0me> keith placese > computer
[12:51] <keith> ikonia: I can see otherdrives no prob though....df worked thanks  ;)
[12:51] <Rooy> ikonia: not yesterday... wait, that meant .20-9 kernel, not .20-10
[12:51] <ikonia_> d13egu should be the same as the desktop doesn't reference
[12:51] <soundray> desire: can you run 'apt-get -f install' and pastebin that please
[12:52] <d13egu> ikonia ok, thank you
[12:52] <keith> gn0me: in 6.06 I had places now Im runnng 6.10 its not there any more
[12:52] <d13egu> ikonia i need sch_htb, sch_sqf and cls_u32 modulos (HTB)...
[12:52] <ikonia_> d13egu and ?
[12:53] <d13egu> if have in ubuntu, 	
[12:53] <d13egu> xubuntu would have
[12:53] <ikonia_> d13egu I'll say it again "its the same kernel"
[12:54] <nospi> Rooy, do you know what that means?
[12:54] <d13egu> oh yes, ok... 11-generic :)
[12:54] <bullgard4> soundray: I have made a notice to keep it in mind.
[12:54] <OuZo> does anybody know if dia can generate source code from class diagrams? thanks
[12:54] <nospi> !3ddesktop
[12:54] <Rooy> nospi i think that line is normal, but mine has an "error -62" in it
[12:54] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[12:54] <ikonia_> OuZoI don't think so
[12:54] <ikonia_> nospi forget 3ddesktop - you can't even get usb working at the moment. Get the basics right first
[12:54] <Rooy> nospi: my solution is plug it in anotherport  though
[12:55] <nospi> Rooy, it's still not showing up in my computer file browser
[12:55] <nospi> ikonia, ok
[12:55] <nospi> Rooy, tried that
[12:55] <nospi> Rooy, didn't help me
[12:55] <nospi> i'll try some other ports
[12:55] <nospi> anybody know anything about USB?
[12:56] <UbuntuniX> Anyone know how to force open a busy drive? =\
[12:56] <omeil> Anyone know what folder the icons are located it?
[12:56] <desire> Soundray, I am repeating the remove things, I pasted the commands of yours and run them now
[12:57] <asianCOOL> got question . in the window.  what program can use to list deb that i already installed using gdeb?
[12:57] <desire> maybe after that I can do the command you gave me above?
[12:57] <desire> Soundray the computer is working on removing now
[12:57] <Zta> Anyone got an idea on how to change the f'ing locale, please?
[12:57] <ikonia_> Zta I know how to not imply bad language for no need
[12:58] <Gurpartap> omeil, usr/share/pixmap /usr/share/themes /usr/share/icons
[12:58] <Gurpartap> omeil, also ~/.icons and ~/.themes
[12:58] <omeil> thx
[12:58] <Gurpartap> ~/ is ur user directory
[12:58] <Zta> ikonia_, but can you help me with my locale problem?
[12:59] <soundray> !locales > Zta, read ubotu's pm pls
[12:59] <ikonia_> Zta I could, but as I said I know how to not imply bad lanaguage for no need, so I'm not interested in talking about it
[12:59] <ikonia_> Zta if you want or expect help, bad language is going to help you get the opposite
[12:59] <Zta> soundray, thanks
[12:59] <soundray> Zta: check the faq and don't swear next time please
[01:00] <Zta> soundray, I did check the faq.
[01:00] <Zta> And I did ask two times already and once on another #Ubuntu channel.
[01:00] <Zta> Aparrently the swearing helped.
[01:00] <ikonia_> Zta so ??
[01:00] <ikonia_> Zta no it didn't
[01:00] <barduck> hi all - is ubuntu suitable as a distro for router/firewall box on low-spec machine? Can it support dual-wan interfaces?
[01:01] <soundray> Zta: it'll help you on my ignore list if you do it again.
[01:01] <ikonia_> barduck totally
[01:01] <ikonia_> barduck you need roughtly 256 ram and 3 gig hardidks space and you'll be fine
[01:02] <barduck> ikonia: great, can I do a minimal install with server modules without all the x-windows stuff ?
[01:02] <ikonia_> barduck yes - the "server" iso install image
[01:02] <theneb> ikonia_: certainly! stuff like firewalling is best from cli
[01:02] <ikonia_> theneb what ?
[01:02] <barduck> cool. do you know if it supports 3 nics (two WANs) out of the box ?
[01:02] <Zta> The server requires 64MB of RAM and 500MB HD, I think.
[01:02] <ikonia_> barduck yes
[01:02] <theneb> ikonia_: erm, wrong tab key press
[01:02] <ikonia_> you'll do better havingmore than 64 meg
[01:02] <ikonia_> theneb ah
[01:02] <desire> Soundray, now I am runing the %apt-get -f install %. I am waiting for the result.
[01:03] <barduck> excellent. I will go download it now. thanks
[01:03] <Zta> well, that's what the FAQ states
[01:03] <Draco> can someone help me install a printer driver from a .tar.gz file please
[01:03] <ikonia_> Draco unzip it and use the readme in the dir
[01:05] <Draco> I dont understand greek :(
[01:05] <IdleOne> get the english version
[01:06] <Valdebbo> Hello everyone.
[01:06] <IdleOne> Valdebbo, hello
[01:06] <Valdebbo> Hi IdleOne. This is my first time here.
[01:06] <Valdebbo> How are you doing?
[01:06] <IdleOne> welcome
[01:06] <Valdebbo> Actually, I'm using xchat for the first time too.
[01:07] <soundray> Draco: what printer have you got?
[01:07] <Valdebbo> I cannot see the user list.
[01:07] <Draco> soundray Epson Aculaser C1100
[01:07] <IdleOne> Valdebbo, I am fine thank you . but this is a support channel so please keep on topic but if you would like to just chat then tpe /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:08] <IdleOne> Valdebbo, you should be able to click and open the list. it is on the right hand side
[01:08] <Valdebbo> Thanks.
[01:08] <IdleOne> no problem
[01:09] <IdleOne> Valdebbo, you just installed Ubuntu?
[01:09] <Valdebbo> And now, a specific question: I tried to install Ubuntu 6.10 PPC on my Beige G3 PowerMac.
[01:09] <heero> Is there a way to install Ubuntu using just a small program and downloadling the rest of the content from the internet?
[01:09] <soundray> Draco: have you tried with one of the drivers that come with ubuntu?
[01:09] <heero> I'm thinking Cygwin style
[01:09] <ikonia_> heero install the server iso
[01:09] <IdleOne> !install | heero
[01:09] <ubotu> heero: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:09] <ikonia_> heero then update to what you want
[01:09] <desire> Soundray, I have already done the 'apt-get install -f' , here is the result:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10470/
[01:09] <Valdebbo> I've been using Ubuntu for two weeks on this PC, I have no PC-specific problems. I managed to install and configure all my software.
[01:09] <Draco> soundray 6.10 doesnt have this model drivers
[01:09] <Valdebbo> I have problems with my other machine, the beige G3.
[01:10] <IdleOne> Valdebbo, what is the issue with the PPC version?
[01:10] <Valdebbo> I am going into details about it.
[01:10] <Draco> soundray the helpfile says rpm -U filename, rpm - command not found !
[01:10] <ikonia_> Draco rpm is not used on ubuntu
[01:10] <IdleOne> Draco, ubuntu uses .deb not rpm's
[01:10] <heero> I mean without even burning an iso... boot like from a usb key/whatever, format, partition, then run a downloading service to grab whatever packages straight from the net
[01:10] <Draco> stupid helpfile
[01:11] <Valdebbo> Since it's an "old world" Mac, I installed it with the help of BootX. The installation went smoothly, to the point where it said "cleaning up".
[01:11] <IdleOne> heero, look at the link ubotu gave you up there
[01:11] <ikonia_> Draco no - lazy user
[01:11] <Valdebbo> (After all packages were succesfully installed).
[01:11] <ikonia_> heero it can be done but its quite a long and manually tedious process
[01:11] <heero> tedious is my thing :)
[01:11] <Draco> ikonia dude if you have any idea how much time ive spent on forums and such... and lets not get personal im just asking for help
[01:11] <Valdebbo> Now the state "cleaning up" was reached at 97%. I switched to another console, where error messages were constantly appearing.
[01:11] <ikonia_> Draco don't blame the tools
[01:11] <heero> thanks
[01:12] <ikonia_> Draco if you had spent any time reading up on ubuntu you'd know it doesn't use rpm's
[01:12] <Valdebbo> But I noticed they weren't fatal errors, so I just waited, and finally the installation was finished.
[01:12] <ikonia_> do don't blame the author
[01:12] <ikonia_> its your fault you don't understand
[01:12] <Valdebbo> But after reboot, nothing happened, not even MacOS 9 could boot anymore.
[01:12] <soundray> ikonia_: I think Draco's got the message now
[01:12] <Valdebbo> It seems my partition table was damaged.
[01:12] <ikonia_> IdleOne I am chilled
[01:13] <IdleOne> Valdebbo, I remember something about bootstrapping and old world mac's but Im not sure
[01:13] <Draco> I didnt freaking research ubuntu and I dont think anyone should have to just to install a printer, I read up in the epson printer
[01:13] <ikonia_> Draco there you go then
[01:13] <IdleOne> !printer | Draco
[01:13] <ubotu> Draco: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:13] <ikonia_> Draco thats your issue - you need to know your OS
[01:13] <Valdebbo> IdleOne: after this I booted the MacOS 9 install CD, and the HDD Utility now saw all 3 partitons (MAC, Ubuntu root, Ubuntu swap).
[01:14] <IdleOne> !grub | Valdebbo check out this link to get grub working
[01:14] <ubotu> Valdebbo check out this link to get grub working: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:14] <Draco> ok well you tell my boss I need to go on courses to be able to install a printer and then we can just throw linux out the window and go back to microsoft
[01:14] <Rooy> Draco: good read for you http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[01:14] <ikonia_> Draco go back to microsoft then if thats best for your business or you have no funding or time for learning
[01:14] <Rooy> Draco: I really recommend you to read that link
[01:14] <IdleOne> Draco, stop wasting time arguing and look at the links ubotu gave you up there
[01:15] <ikonia_> Draco you can also pay for ubuntu consultanty and support that will help your business
[01:15] <soundray> ikonia_ please!
[01:15] <Valdebbo> IdleOne: good idea. My PowerMac even has a floppy disk, do you know about some PPC-based boot floppy from which I could install grub or perform basic repair tasks?
[01:15] <Draco> guys ive setup several cups printers 6.10 just doesnt have the drivers which I need to install
[01:15] <shilpi> can anyone please guide me how do i install GNU make i need it to build postgreSQL
[01:15] <Draco> soundray dont worry he doesnt bug me, some people are just like that
[01:15] <ikonia_> shilpi postgres is in the ubuntu repo
[01:15] <IdleOne> Valdebbo, I dont but those links should help you
[01:15] <ikonia_> shilpi you don't need to build it
[01:15] <Pici> !coc
[01:15] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:15] <Valdebbo> Thanks, I check them out now.
[01:15] <mattl> shilpi: if you want to build it, apt-get install build-essential
[01:15] <IdleOne> !build-essential | shilpi
[01:15] <ubotu> shilpi: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:16] <soundray> Draco: it's possible that you can coerce the driver from the tar.gz into your system, but it wouldn't be my first-choice approach
[01:16] <mattl> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39286295,00.htm -- more novell fud.
[01:16] <Pici> !offtopic > mattl
[01:16] <IdleOne> mattl, thanks for the spam
[01:16] <Draco> soundray ive downloaded the driver from Epson as per this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105590&highlight=aculaser
[01:17] <mattl> IdleOne: how is it spam?
[01:17] <coolio> is there some kind of changelog for feisty?
[01:17] <daya> what is the different bet. apttitude and apt-get
[01:17] <IdleOne> Draco, the driver probably works but it is in the wrong format i.e .rpm and ubuntu uses .deb
[01:17] <mattl> Pici: wtf?
[01:17] <ikonia_> language
[01:17] <shilpi> mattl: i wanted 8.2.3 in the repository its 8.1.4
[01:17] <ikonia_> fed up of bad langauge or implied bad language
[01:17] <IdleOne> mattl, it isnt ubuntu support related
[01:17] <ikonia_> mattl this is ubuntu  support - your post was nothing to do with ubuntu support
[01:17] <ikonia_> hence spam
[01:18] <mattl> shilpi: yeah, compiling it from source is your best bet.
[01:18] <IdleOne> !alien | Draco
[01:18] <ubotu> Draco: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:18] <ikonia_> shilpi why do you want that later version, whats the driver for it
[01:18] <soundray> Draco: do you know what is meant by "unpack, ./configure, make, sudo make install" (from that post)
[01:18] <shilpi> ikonia : i wanted it for kamap
[01:18] <abuyazan> hi all
[01:19] <ikonia_> shilpi kamap ?
[01:19] <Draco> IdleOne I dont see any rpm files within the zip, .sh .conf mainly
[01:19] <ikonia_> just googling
[01:19] <abuyazan> does any one install GNOME 2.18 on ubuntu edgy
[01:19] <soundray> Draco: don't worry about rpm/alien for now, follow me:
[01:19] <Draco> soundray nope i dont unfortunately
[01:19] <ikonia_> abuyazan no
[01:19] <Draco> k i mall ears
[01:19] <soundray> Draco: first you do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[01:19] <IdleOne> Draco, follow soundray 
[01:19] <shilpi> ikonia : it's related to GIS kamap.refractions.net
[01:19] <cwillu> !pastebin
[01:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:19] <abuyazan> i see it is released on gnome site,
[01:19] <Draco> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:20] <Draco> grr sorry :P
[01:20] <ikonia_> shilpi that domain name doesn't exist
[01:20] <ikonia_> abuyazan but not in the ubuntu packages
[01:20] <soundray> Draco: :)
[01:20] <mneptok> abuyazan: what piece(s) do you need in the 2.18 release?
[01:20] <soundray> Draco: then cd to the location of the tar.gz
[01:20] <ikonia_> mneptok I'll bet its the bigger number he wants
[01:20] <desire> Soundray, what should I do now? dpkg: error processing texlive-lang-polish (--remove):
[01:20] <desire>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[01:20] <desire> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:20] <desire>  texlive-lang-polish
[01:20] <desire> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:20] <shilpi> ikonia : sorry http://ka-map.maptools.org/
[01:21] <ikonia_> shilpi that doesn'tsay you need PG 8.2
[01:21] <soundray> desire: similar step to the one before:
[01:21] <ikonia_> for 1.0
[01:21] <aleksanteri> anyone got a repository for tzdata?
[01:21] <soundray> desire: %for i in /var/lib/dpkg/info/texlive-lang*postrm ; do echo -e '#!/bin/bash'\\n exit 0 >$i ; done%
[01:21] <Draco> soundray all done
[01:21] <soundray> aleksanteri: it exists for edgy only. For dapper, just update libc6
[01:21] <desire> Soundray, ok, I am doing
[01:22] <N3WB> Is it possible to degrade from Ubuntu 6.10 64Bit to Ubuntu 6.10 32bit (i386)
[01:22] <ikonia_> N3WB no
[01:22] <N3WB> without having to reinstall evrything
[01:22] <aleksanteri> soundray: well libc6 requires tzdata >_>
[01:22] <N3WB> Damit -.- o well
[01:22] <soundray> Draco: now, run 'tar zxf Epson-ALC1100-filter-1.0.tar.gz'
[01:22] <soundray> !info tzdata
[01:22] <ubotu> tzdata: Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data. In component main, is required. Version 2007b-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[01:22] <cwillu> easy way to move a plain x window to a specific location, without running metacity or anything with window decorations
[01:22] <shilpi> ikonia : ok i'm installing through repo
[01:23] <cwillu> suggestions?
[01:23] <ziadoz> anyone know if i can resize an EXT3 partition? make it larger
[01:23] <shilpi> thanks for the help :)
[01:23] <ikonia_> shilpi good man, you'll find it a better choice in the long run
[01:23] <soundray> aleksanteri: it's in main, so you should just be able to install it.
[01:23] <mattl> ikonia_: wtf isn't bad language.
[01:23] <davidisko> any webhosting control panel ported in ubuntu?
[01:23] <aleksanteri> ok
[01:23] <lynucs> kann mir einer sagen warum lshw mir 2 cpus anzeigt, obwohl ich nur einen amd athlon-xp-m habe??
[01:23] <ikonia_> ziadoz not without a tool or lvm
[01:23] <ikonia_> mattl it implies bad lanaguage
[01:23] <Charlie> i lost my "add remove button" from aplications, does any1 know how i can get it back?
[01:23] <ikonia_> mattl which is just as bad
[01:23] <Draco> soundray ok tar done
[01:23] <ziadoz> what tools can do it, ikonia ?
[01:23] <Pici> !de | lynucs
[01:23] <ubotu> lynucs: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:23] <mattl> ikonia_: how so?
[01:23] <shilpi> ikonia :i;m a girl!!!
[01:23] <soundray> Draco: now change into the unpacked directory
[01:23] <ikonia_> shilpi "good girl" sorry
[01:23] <lynucs> oh
[01:23] <ikonia_> mattl everyone knows what it means
[01:23] <lynucs> damn, didnt notice.., sorry
[01:24] <Pici> lynucs: no problem :)
[01:24] <shilpi> ikonia ::)
[01:24] <soundray> Draco: it's probably got the same name
[01:24] <Draco> soundray yup im there
[01:24] <lynucs> may anyone tell me why lshw shows me 2 cpu's although i have one amd athlon-xp-m??
[01:24] <aleksanteri> hmmm, got a error :|
[01:24] <aleksanteri> dpkg: error processing libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13_i386 (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[01:24] <lynucs> i'm just configuring my kernel, so i dont really know what to do :D
[01:24] <soundray> Draco: now run ./configure and see if you get any errors
[01:24] <Charlie> i lost my "add remove button" from aplications, does any1 know how i can get it back?
[01:25] <cypherdelic> hello
[01:25] <Draco> soundray run as in via terminal yes ?
[01:25] <soundray> Draco: yes
[01:25] <desire> Soundray ,Ok! the dpkg --configure -a?
[01:25] <lynucs> oh and the "2 cpu's " have differtn specifications.. one proper with 1.6 GHz and another with 2Ghz
[01:25] <soundray> desire: yes
[01:25] <lynucs> what might it be? or is lshw not really exact?
[01:25] <lynucs> or even buggy?
[01:26] <soundray> Draco: the rest is as in the second post by bogl
[01:26] <Draco> soundray cups-config missing error
[01:26] <Rooy> Draco: and please read the http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm article
[01:27] <Heroin> i installed the LAMP server, however how do i login into mysql?
[01:27] <aleksanteri> what is this? >_> "dpkg: error processing libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13_i386 (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[01:27] <ikonia_> Heroin mysql -u root -p
[01:27] <Heroin> whats the default pass?
[01:27] <Rooy> Draco: you need to install libcupsys2-dev
[01:27] <ikonia_> Heroin there isn't one
[01:27] <aleksanteri> Heroin: none afaik
[01:27] <ikonia_> Heroin you set on e
[01:27] <soundray> Draco: listen to Rooy
[01:27] <ikonia_> one
[01:27] <Heroin> none :X
[01:27] <daschl> how can i get the absolute file path withotu the filename.. i got File.expand_path(__FILE__) for now but this also displays the filename
[01:28] <ben_underscore> Heroin: sudo mysql will get you in as root, then you can set up an account for yourself
[01:28] <Heroin> howdo i set a password ikonia_
[01:28] <soundray> Draco: 'sudo apt-get install libcupsys2-dev', then try ./configure again
[01:28] <aleksanteri> hey!!!! "dpkg: error processing libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13_i386 (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[01:28] <ikonia_> Heroin read up on mysql and the grant option or mysqladmin
[01:28] <phiphe> hola
[01:28] <soundray> daschl: dirname
[01:28] <Draco> Rooy according to synaptic already installed
[01:28] <daschl> thanks
[01:28] <phiphe> alguien de espaa
[01:28] <phiphe> ?
[01:28] <Heroin> ben_underscore im logged in as root.. howdo i edit the password from being BLANK to MYPASS?
[01:28] <IdleOne> !es | philip
[01:28] <ubotu> philip: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:28] <IdleOne> !es | phiphe
[01:28] <ubotu> phiphe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:29] <ben_underscore> Heroin: have you created a user for yourself?
[01:29] <ikonia_> Heroin just told you the two things you need to read up on
[01:29] <phiphe> gracias
[01:29] <phiphe> thanks
[01:29] <ikonia_> Heroin read up on the mysql grant option - or the mysqladmin application
[01:29] <IdleOne> phiphe, de nada
[01:29] <soundray> Draco: sure? libcupsys2-dev (not just libcupsys2)
[01:29] <davidisko> any webhosting control panel ported in ubuntu?
[01:29] <ikonia_> davidisko search the repo's
[01:30] <Draco> Rooy sorry that was libcupssys2 abd libcupsys2image2 installed dev not listed
[01:30] <aleksanteri> hmmm i found the prob lol
[01:30] <soundray> Draco: 'sudo apt-get install libcupsys2-dev', then try ./configure again
[01:30] <aleksanteri> well however i have a new problem >_>
[01:30] <aleksanteri> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6:
[01:30] <aleksanteri>  libc6 depends on tzdata; however:
[01:30] <aleksanteri>   Package tzdata is not installed.
[01:30] <ben_underscore> Heroin: read this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/grant.html
[01:31] <Seveas> aleksanteri, looks like you want a too new libc6 on your system
[01:31] <Seveas> that is a very bad idea
[01:31] <aleksanteri> Seveas: libc6 is a dependency >_>
[01:31] <ikonia_> Seveas more so if its a 6.06 box without nptl
[01:31] <Seveas> aleksanteri, libc6 is installed by default
[01:31] <Seveas> without libc6 nothing works
[01:31] <aleksanteri> i know
[01:31] <aleksanteri> but i need a new version of it >_>
[01:31] <ikonia_> aleksanteri but it will break your box
[01:32] <Seveas> if you get errors about libc6 dependency you are trying to install packages on your system that are meant for newer versions of ubuntu
[01:32] <ikonia_> aleksanteri you can't really upgrade it as everything is built around it
[01:32] <Seveas> DO NOT DO THAT
[01:32] <aleksanteri> hmm
[01:32] <Seveas> you don't need a newer version of libc6
[01:32] <Linuturk> when I log into a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10, it logs me right back out
[01:32] <aleksanteri> well i originally want to install cinelerra (or i am being asked to)
[01:32] <Seveas> you need to find correct packages of whatever you try to install that says it needss a newer libc6
[01:32] <ikonia_> Linuturk no space or access to your home dir
[01:32] <ikonia_> Linuturk thats a common cuase
[01:32] <Seveas> then find proper cinelerra packages
[01:33] <aleksanteri> well it needs libquicktime
[01:33] <soundray> Rooy: can you continue helping Draco please? I was really just guiding him through the second post on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105590
[01:33] <aleksanteri> and it needs the new libc6
[01:33] <Seveas> no
[01:33] <Rooy> soundray: right on
[01:33] <Linuturk> ikonia_: usually it gives a message if it can't access the /home
[01:33] <Seveas> you need a proper libquicktime package
[01:33] <Seveas> not one needing a newr libc6
[01:33] <soundray> Rooy: thank you
[01:33] <ikonia_> Linuturk nah, just logs you out as it can't write to your desktop files
[01:33] <Seveas> you probably are trying edgy packages on dapper oslt
[01:33] <Draco> Rooy couldnt find package libcupsys2-dev
[01:33] <Seveas> that is a VERY bad thing to do
[01:33] <soundray> Draco: I'm logging off now, leaving you in the capable hands of Rooy ;)
[01:33] <aleksanteri> Seveas: i know... have you got a link/repos to a proper one?
[01:34] <Seveas> no
[01:34] <Draco> thanks soundray appreciate it
[01:34] <aleksanteri> >_<
[01:34] <Linuturk> ikonia_: I'm sure I setup te partitons right. I can't get to cli to check though
[01:34] <davidisko> i can't find perl modules MIME::Entity and MIME::Parser, any ideas?
[01:34] <Rooy> Draco: what's output of "aptitude search libcupsys2-dev"
[01:34] <aleksanteri> so i should upgrade to edgy?
[01:34] <Seveas> davidisko, apt-get install libmime-entity-perl libmime-parser-perl
[01:34] <Linuturk> ikonia_: I can't switch to tty1
[01:34] <ikonia_> Linuturk boot off the live cd - mount the disks and check the logs - or boot into recovery mode and check
[01:34] <Seveas> aleksanteri, that's a solution
[01:34] <ikonia_> oops desk move time
[01:34] <aleksanteri> !libquicktimei
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libquicktimei - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <aleksanteri> !libquicktime
[01:34] <Linuturk> ok ikonia_
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libquicktime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <aleksanteri> !libquicktimehv
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libquicktimehv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <aleksanteri> :|
[01:35] <Linuturk> ikonia: i'll probably be back
[01:35] <rambo3> use /msg aleksanteri
[01:35] <davidisko> Seveas: Couldn't find package libmime-entity-perl
[01:35] <Seveas> !find mime-ent
[01:35] <Rooy> Draco: mine is p   libcupsys2-dev                  - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - development files
[01:35] <Draco> Rooy this is a brand new installation of 6.10 I think it may be repository related
[01:35] <ubotu> Package/file mime-ent does not exist in edgy
[01:35] <Seveas> hmm
[01:35] <Rooy> Draco: good point
[01:35] <Seveas> then you'd need to install it from CPAN davidisko
[01:36] <Rooy> Draco: it's in main repo for sure
[01:36] <Draco> Rooy let me sort that out quick
[01:36] <davidisko> Seveas: any ideas?
[01:36] <IdleOne> !universe | Draco
[01:36] <ubotu> Draco: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:36] <Draco> !EasySource
[01:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:36] <lightseed> hello
[01:36] <humbolto> is there a channel for p2p software as well as for video portal discussions?
[01:37] <davidisko> ubotu: any ideas?
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about any ideas? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <rambo3> !ot > humbolto
[01:37] <aleksanteri> lol davidisko
[01:37] <davidisko> :D
[01:37] <aleksanteri> ubotu: Linux O_O
[01:37] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:38] <desire> Soundray, I have done!
[01:38] <aleksanteri> darn lol
[01:38] <lightseed> what if the repos all worked together but were seperate...so for example you dont install the latest nvidia driver and kill your system automaticcally
[01:38] <Rooy> desire: soundray has gone out
[01:38] <IdleOne> desire, soundray has left
[01:38] <lightseed> just an example
[01:38] <desire> Thank you guys
[01:39] <Linuturk> ok guys, I've checked, and my /home is accessible
[01:39] <desire> can anyone tell me  some books about linux, so that I can resolve the problem by myself?
[01:39] <Valdebbo> Does anyone have experience with Ubuntu PPC & "old world" Macs?
[01:39] <desire> and I have help others?
[01:40] <desire> please give me a tip
[01:40] <Linuturk> but, I have xsession errors in my ~ directory. How do I fix this?
[01:40] <lightseed> what about having seperate repos for each category like development/graphics/word procress/drivers/kernels
[01:40] <Rooy> desire: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm worth checking out, not a book though
[01:41] <IdleOne> !offtopic | lightseed
[01:41] <ubotu> lightseed: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:41] <lightseed> ok sorry
[01:41] <lightseed> :)
[01:41] <desire> Rooy, Thank you! I m getting to check it!
[01:42] <desire> I am quiting now. have lot of fun talking to you guys! bye!
[01:43] <SGorillaaaa> how can i uninstall beryl?
[01:43] <Rooy> how're things Draco
[01:43] <lightseed> where do i submit suggestions
[01:44] <mial> 'morning
[01:44] <Rooy> lightseed: i figure there's a ubuntu-users mailling list somewhere, or you may find some link at ubuntu.com
[01:44] <battlesquid> the edgy package for gtk-gnutella is so outdated that it has become "ancient" and is not permitted to run. how about updating the package?
[01:47] <SGorillaaaa> how can i uninstall beryl?
[01:47] <Pici> battlesquid: The best place to suggest that would be on that package's launchpad page.
[01:47] <harry_> I can't seem to open a terminal
[01:48] <Rooy> SGorillaaaa: did you install it with synaptic, then it should be uninstalled from there
[01:48] <Pici> SGorillaaaa: Did you try `sudo apt-get remove beryl` ?
[01:48] <_Rappy_> how can I print a .txt from the terminal?
[01:49] <Zta> I do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf  and I choose debconf to manage stuff, and I choose "en_DK.UTF-8 UTF-8" as the default system locale, and I choose no override.  When the program exits, it says: Generating locales...    en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date  Generation complete.
[01:49] <Zta> Why isn't it generating the locale I just selected?
[01:50] <rambo3> _Rappy_, man lpc
[01:50] <_Rappy_> rambo3 thanks
[01:51] <harry_> When I tell it to open a terminal, it says "Starting terminal..." for a while and then just disappears. How do I get it to open?
[01:51] <rambo3> _Rappy_, lpr too
[01:52] <_Rappy_> rambo3 : it was under lp, but you put me on the right track :)
[01:53] <lightseed> how do i clean off unused packages?
[01:53] <lynucs> how can i exactly identify my processors family?? lwhw says that my host bridge is k8 and my cpu is k7, but e.g. powernow-k7 module isnt loading saying "device not found"
[01:54] <harry_> isn't that sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[01:54] <IdleOne> yes
[01:54] <lightseed> ok thanks
[01:54] <assasukasse> hi all, i altered my xorg config, how can i restore the autodetected one?
[01:55] <I3ooI3oo> ikonia: you around ?
[01:55] <IdleOne> assasukasse, the autodetected one is the one you modified. you didnt make a backup of your xorg right?
[01:55] <assasukasse> no IdleOne
[01:56] <IdleOne> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do it
[01:56] <zoli2k> Hi, can anybody help me how to reset all connections with iptables?
[01:56] <rambo3> zoli2k, flush iptables
[01:57] <blackest> lisapc which tvtuner and webcam ?
[01:57] <blackest> whoops that was 7 hours ago
[01:57] <assasukasse> IdleOne, it doesn't
[01:57] <zoli2k> rambo3: flush reset only firewall rules not connection table
[01:57] <IdleOne> Rooy, that oneandoneis2 link is nice... Im not real new to linux but I like how it doesnt talk down to the reader
[01:57] <assasukasse> IdleOne, doesn't recognize automatically my card, neither my monitor
[01:58] <harry_> The terminal doesn't open: when I click on the button, either in the Applications > Accessories menu or on the shortcut on the top bar, it gives me a message "Starting Terminal..." but then it disappears.
[01:58] <digitalspaghetti> is there a repository for gnome 2.18 already?
[01:58] <AlbertK> hi, today i pressed the reset-button isntead of the off-button, so my pc did a cold-reboot
[01:58] <rambo3> zoli2k, then ask in #iptables . i didnt know about connection table
[01:58] <AlbertK> now my window-manager won't load
[01:58] <AlbertK> (metacity)
[01:59] <Rooy> IdleOne: english problem: "talk down" has negative meaning?
[01:59] <pooper> can someone help me with an update problem? http://pastebin.ca/395974
[01:59] <craigbass1976> I jsut installed noteedit, but when launching it I get kde errors.  I don't have kde.  Has anyone got notedit working in GNOME?
[01:59] <IdleOne> Rooy, yes " Talk Down" to treat like a child or a stupid person
[01:59] <craigbass1976> music notation software
[01:59] <zoli2k> rambo3: the #iptables chanel seems to be impotent, not like #ubuntu channel ;) I allready asked.
[01:59] <zoli2k> but no response
[02:00] <harmless> Hello. Is there someone that could help me out with video drivers? I just got a new monitor, widescreen, capable of very high resolutions. My options only go as high as 1024x768 under my current configuraiton. I assume I need to go get some drivers somewhere? I have a cd and it works great with my windows box, but the inf file seems useless on my ubuntu box.
[02:00] <IdleOne> assasukasse, sorry dont know how to help you
[02:00] <assasukasse> thanks anyway IdleOne
[02:01] <blackest> craigbass1976 kde aps tend to use kde related bits that you might not have
[02:01] <pooper> mu update is getting hung up on locales_2.3.18.2_all.deb...anyone know about this?
[02:01] <IdleOne> !offtopic | digitalspaghetti
[02:01] <daya> what is different bet. aptitude and apt-get
[02:01] <ubotu> digitalspaghetti: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:01] <I3ooI3oo> harmless you need to change the xorg.conf to have the resolutions your monitor supports
[02:01] <Rooy> digitalspaghetti: her home hasn't been done yet, visit #ubuntu+1 for more info
[02:01] <davascript_work> does wireless work out of the box on ubuntu
[02:01] <il_falco> HI. can anyone suggest a webcam, ez to install, no major surgery, for edgy?
[02:01] <n00buntu> Hi.
[02:01] <IdleOne> daya, aptitude is better at tracking dependencies
[02:02] <IdleOne> !webcam | il_falco
[02:02] <ubotu> il_falco: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:02] <harmless> I3ooI3oo: do you know of a wiki or site that can guide me through this?
[02:02] <Rooy> !wlan | davascript_work
[02:02] <davascript_work> !wireless | davascript_work
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <digitalspaghetti> so your saying Gnome 2.18 isn't available for edgy yet?
[02:02] <Rooy> digitalspaghetti: the way i understand it: no, and never
[02:02] <digitalspaghetti> ahh, ok
[02:02] <Rooy> digitalspaghetti: that's called stable release
[02:03] <I3ooI3oo> harmless : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[02:03] <il_falco> fantastic!  thank you!!
[02:03] <IdleOne> no problem il_falco
[02:03] <craigbass1976> blackest, I guess it's not kde issue but sequencer and alsa.  Balls...
[02:03] <n00buntu> GAMBAS pwns c++
[02:03] <IdleOne> n00buntu, great for gambas now go tell the world but do it somewhere else then here 
[02:04] <blackest> craig easy enough to install kde on top of ubuntu and run things that way
[02:04] <IdleOne> craigbass1976, you can install any kde app and run it on gnome/ubuntu . they run fine
[02:04] <EnsignRedshirt> This morning, gnome-cups-icon was using 100% of my CPU.  Was is gnome-cups-icon?
[02:04] <EnsignRedshirt> *What is
[02:04] <harry__> Never mind, I rebooted and it works now
[02:05] <IdleOne> harry_, k
[02:05] <harmless> I3ooI3oo: thanks mate.
[02:06] <craigbass1976> IdleOne, I wasn't planning on messign with this this morning.  I installed rosegarden, and it does what I need so now I'm all set.  Back to the database...
[02:06] <IdleOne> craigbass1976, ok cool
[02:06] <AlbertK> hi, today i pressed the reset-button isntead of the off-button, so my pc did a cold-reboot. now my windows-manager (metacity) won't load
[02:07] <I3ooI3oo> np man
[02:07] <omeil> Any gambas pros here?
[02:08] <AlbertK> can't anybody offer a solution? :(
[02:09] <IdleOne> try rebooting maybe it will help
[02:09] <IdleOne> the proper way
[02:09] <omeil> Could tell us any messages it is showing?
[02:11] <setuid> Riddle me this... isn't 'ulimit -c 0' how you stop core files from being created? Why doesn't that work on Ubuntu Edgy or Feisty?
[02:11] <setuid> For example: http://rafb.net/p/wiSj7932.html
[02:11] <rambo3> AlbertK  lol , start it from terminal
[02:11] <setuid> I can launch anything, and ^\ to kill it, and it dumps core, every time... even though I tell it not to write core files.
[02:12] <UB`> do you know if is there a similar app in Ubuntu like this: http://projects.tynsoe.org/en/geektool/index.php ?
[02:12] <AlbertK> hmm, no, metacity still doesn't load
[02:12] <setuid> UB`, gkrellm?
[02:13] <UB`> so bad gkrellm
[02:13] <rambo3> !info geek-tool
[02:13] <AlbertK> in safe-gnome my ubuntu loads up
[02:13] <ubotu> Package geek-tool does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:13] <rambo3> !info geektool
[02:13] <ubotu> Package geektool does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:13] <harry__> I'm just wondering: are there "widgets/gadgets" for gnome or kde ? I'm kinda new to the whole linux thing.
[02:13] <rambo3> AlbertK, start it from terminal
[02:13] <Heroin> i keep getting a anyoing apache error
[02:13] <setuid> harry__, What are you looking for?
[02:14] <setuid> harry__, widgets/gadgets that do what?
[02:14] <Heroin> howto fix >> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[02:14] <rambo3> how to read apache manual
[02:14] <UB`> look at ServerName directive
[02:14] <Heroin> UB` where?
[02:14] <AlbertK> rambo3: i honestly don't know how to
[02:14] <UB`> Heroin where do you want :)
[02:14] <rambo3> AlbertK, start terminal and type : metacity
[02:14] <UB`> google?
[02:15] <AlbertK> ah, k
[02:15] <Greenery> question, if my pc can boot up ubuntu using CD and everything looks fine, does it mean my hardwares works well with ubuntu then?
[02:16] <harry__> like the ones that appear on your desktop and tell you useless information.
[02:16] <AlbertK> rambo3: it says, i already have a window-manager.
[02:16] <Rooy> AlbertK: try metacity --replace then
[02:16] <setuid> Greenery, Have you tried all of your hardware? Sound, networking, scsi, firewire, usb, video, etc.?
[02:16] <Greenery> ah not all of them
[02:16] <AlbertK> k
[02:16] <name7ess> how can i change the langague of a ubuntu system after the installation
[02:16] <AlbertK> i'll try it
[02:16] <rambo3> AlbertK, try with metacity --replace
[02:17] <name7ess> i tought this would be trivial but it's not
[02:17] <harry__> I tried gdesklets but I didn't really like it b/c it didn't start on login - is there a way to script that ?
[02:17] <Heroin> UB` i cant figure it out man can i PM u?
[02:17] <name7ess> i  edited /etc/environment and stuff and $LANG is still worng
[02:17] <Rooy> name7ess: you first have to install that language-package
[02:17] <name7ess> of course i checked .bashrc and so
[02:17] <name7ess> i did
[02:17] <seraph> how do I get a minimal install of ubuntu from the edgy installer disk?
[02:17] <name7ess> apt-get install language-pack-en
[02:17] <name7ess> Rooy: but still
[02:17] <Rooy> name7ess: then on the login screen there's option to select lang
[02:17] <seraph> I don't want GNOME etc.
[02:18] <seraph> just the base system
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> seraph: you need the alternate install cd.
[02:18] <name7ess> well on kubuntu there is not
[02:18] <Heroin> howto fix >> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[02:18] <name7ess> that's also a problem
[02:18] <seraph> fyrestrtr: there's no way to get it from the standard?!
[02:18] <UB`> Heroin http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#servername
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> seraph: not anymore.
[02:18] <UB`> brb
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> Heroin: edit /etc/hosts
[02:18] <seraph> ARGH
[02:18] <rambo3> !info ubuntu-minimal | seraph
[02:18] <ubotu> seraph: ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[02:18] <unimatrix9> hello every one
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> rambo3: that's not it :)
[02:18] <seraph> rambo3: that's just a pacjkage froup
[02:18] <seraph> group
[02:19] <seraph> hmmm
[02:19] <Rooy> seraph: you wamt ubuntu without any gui? try the server cd
[02:19] <seraph> maybe I should just grab kubuntu then
[02:19] <gnomefreak> sipior: are you here?
[02:19] <fyrestrtr> seraph: its the same story there too.
[02:19] <seraph> cause I don't want GNOME is all
[02:19] <seraph> and removing GNOME is a pain
[02:19] <AlbertK> no, this isn't the problam... the load-up screen just stucks at "metacity - window manager", when i start a gnome session
[02:19] <fyrestrtr> seraph: you need the alternate or server cds.
[02:19] <Fanskapet> http://users.sidvicious.se/fanskapet/images/newdesktop/image1.png
[02:19] <seraph> cause it leaves 2000 deps around
[02:19] <setuid> seraph, Nope, its very easy
[02:19] <Fanskapet> ahh *love* awn and screenlets
[02:19] <seraph> setuid: really?
[02:19] <seraph> do tell
[02:19] <setuid> seraph, What is the issue you're trying to solve?
[02:19] <rambo3> fyrestrtr, isnt serve install and ubuntu-minimal same thing
[02:19] <linxeh> xubuntu ftw
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> rambo3: no.
[02:20] <unimatrix9> i have two hard disks, one master and one slave, the slave has ubuntu, now i would like to remove the master , and only use the slave ( with ubuntu ) , i know that the GRUB is on the master, how could i get this done , so ubuntu will boot from the replaced disk?
[02:20] <seraph> setuid: if I install edgy standard it comes with GNOME etc.
[02:20] <seraph> I don't want GNOME
[02:20] <gnomefreak> sipior: what did you maen when you asked did i patch windows?
[02:20] <seraph> I want KDE and all I have is a ubuntu (not kubuntu) disc
[02:20] <linxeh> seraph: install edgy kubuntu or xubuntu then ?
[02:20] <OrTigaS> latest guide installing xgl/compiz in Dapper?
[02:20] <linxeh> oh right
[02:20] <setuid> seraph, apt-get remove --purge libgtk1.2 libglib1.2 llibgtk2.0-0 ibglib2.0-0
[02:20] <seraph> is there any way to properly remove GNOME?
[02:20] <seraph> setuid: is that all?
[02:20] <setuid> That'll drag everything out
[02:20] <rambo3> fyrestrtr, and the difference is ?
[02:21] <seraph> hmmm
[02:21] <Heroin> fyrestrtr and what would i add there?
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> unimatrix9: boot from the desktpo cd, and run grub-setup
[02:21] <unimatrix9> from command line?
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> rambo3: there are some additional options on the server install cd, which you can read up on at the website :)
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> unimatrix9: yes.
[02:21] <unimatrix9> okk thnx alot!
[02:21] <Rooy> AlbertK: do you happen to have an wireless card?
[02:21] <AlbertK> Rooy: no, not at all
[02:22] <AlbertK> Rooy: is there any way of setting metacity back to defaults?
[02:22] <fyrestrtr> Heroin: 127.0.0.1 coolserver coolserver.myhome.net
[02:22] <Rooy> ah, not what i experienced then
[02:22] <AlbertK> Rooy: maybe this should work
[02:22] <fyrestrtr> Heroin: you can get more information at the wiki :)
[02:22] <rambo3> simple i don't know sounds the same to me
[02:23] <Greenery> do u need to have fat32 drive to use ubuntu?
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> rambo3: well, its not.
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> Greenery: no.
[02:23] <jfanaian> I'm having an issue with my laptop. I can't get internet. I can get in the network, I can ping other machines in the network, other people's and everything but I can't get internet. It worked fine yesterday, just not today. Could someone help me figure out why? :( I'm using nm-applet on a wireless network.
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> Greenery: only to share files with Windows (read/write)
[02:23] <Greenery> ah ic
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> jfanaian: what happened between yesterday and today?
[02:24] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: Nothing really, I didn't do anything last night other than play World of Warcraft on it
[02:25] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: I didn't mess with any of the configuration whatsoever last night.. yesterday I was messing with my sound configuration but thats a whole different problem
[02:25] <fyrestrtr> jfanaian: are you on a static ip or dhcp?
[02:25] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: DHCP
[02:25] <fyrestrtr> jfanaian: do you have the right gateway and dns information?
[02:25] <SeanTater> Is it possible to recompile a single xscreensaver hack? (I changed about 3 lines of C, but I don't want to compile and install the whole thing to see if it works...)
[02:25] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: Let me check
[02:26] <daya> do i need to aptitude update for aptitude
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> jfanaian: check the applet for your network card's settings, or ifconfig from the cli
[02:26] <Greenery> do i need to install ubuntu on the same drive with windows or can it be done on 2nd drive with no windows system on it??
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> Greenery: it can be on the second drive, no problems.
[02:26] <blamethrower> I can't see my cursor in xubuntu
[02:26] <blamethrower> and I can't live with that
[02:26] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: Ah, I see the default gateway is 192.168.1.1 but its supposed to be .7
[02:26] <Greenery> but it can still dual boot right?
[02:26] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: How could I change that?
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> Greenery: yes.
[02:26] <blamethrower> can anyone help me
[02:27] <fyrestrtr> jfanaian: try refreshing your connection (turn off the wifi adapter, then turn it back on, then renew your dhcp lease)
[02:27] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: Alrighty :)
[02:27] <Greenery> so if i want to install ubuntu on my 2nd drive, do i have to format the whole disk or use the available free space it got?
[02:27] <blamethrower> could this be a graphic card problem since I don't have onboard graphics
[02:28] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: No it still has .1 :(
[02:28] <blamethrower> using nvidia 7600gs
[02:28] <fyrestrtr> jfanaian: set the ip information manually.
[02:29] <Rooy> jfanaian: i'll help you with that
[02:29] <blamethrower> i can't find any help on the forum regarding this
[02:29] <jfanaian> well i'm using nm-applet because i'm in a WPA (I thinkt hats what its called) wireless network, and I didn't want to reconfigure it everytime i went home.. so i can't just change the interface file because that will break it
[02:30] <rylan> hey everyone, every time i run apt-get update i get this, it cant be good. maybe you can help figure it out W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[02:30] <javad> HI I'm a biginner and using ubuntu 6.10
[02:30] <javad> would you please let me know how can I access to NTFS files from windows?
[02:30] <Rooy> !ntfs |javad
[02:30] <ubotu> javad: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:31] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: I was trying to look if it could be done from ifconfig but I could only find how to change my IP address and how to change the broadcast address, not the default gateway
[02:31] <predaeus> blamethrower: you mean the mouse cursor? if you have the nvidia drivers installed you should have a nvidia settings application somewhere or run nvidia-settings there is an option about mouse rendering maybe that helps. But you have to try.
[02:31] <javad> tanx
[02:31] <blamethrower> yes I mean the mouse cursor
[02:31] <Rooy> jfanaian: the default gateway can be set in /etc/network/interfaces, but that means a static IP, and nm has problem with that
[02:31] <Nooobuntu> how do i change amaroks behaviour, so it plays a file rather than queue it to the list?
[02:32] <jfanaian> Rooy: Yeah thats what I was saying a bit ago :(...
[02:32] <blamethrower> I'll try installing the linux nvidia drivers
[02:32] <Greenery> so if i want to install ubuntu on my 2nd drive, do i have to format the whole disk or use the available free space?
[02:32] <Hammwell> i was trying to install imageMagick last night, but it bailed saying my C compiler could not compile executables. this is right after a fresh ubuntu install. any idea what i can install that would be a C compiler that can work?
[02:32] <predaeus> blamethrower: sry I was mistaken, there is no option in that program. You will have to try something else. Maybe some Xorg config option for mouse rendering
[02:33] <fyrestrtr> jfanaian: man interfaces ;)
[02:33] <blamethrower> xorg?
[02:33] <blamethrower> *srry first time linux user
[02:33] <predaeus> blamethrower: are you in windows now or on another computer?
[02:33] <TehDuffman> i need some help with getting dual screens working with Xinerama anyone able to help me?
[02:33] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: I can't change that file, it will break nm-applet
[02:33] <Rooy> blamethrower: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Hammwell: Install the package "build-essential"
[02:33] <blamethrower> i'm in windows
[02:33] <AlbertK> hi again, i reinstalled all metacity packages, but still it won't load on gnome startup
[02:33] <blamethrower> *wrting down*
[02:33] <Hammwell> EnsignRedshirt: thanks for suggestion. will do
[02:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Hammwell: ...but you know that imagemagick is in the ubuntu repositories?
[02:34] <blamethrower> going to reformat windows in a few hours
[02:34] <Rooy> blamethrower: wait a bit, i'm getting thing together, maybe something with hardware/software cursoe
[02:34] <blamethrower> i just need to get this cursor problem solved
[02:35] <AlbertK> can't anybody help me?
[02:35] <rylan> hey everyone, every time i run apt-get update i get this, it cant be good. maybe you can help figure it out W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[02:36] <jfanaian> rylan: You're missing the signatures for that repository
[02:36] <rylan> jfanaian, and how do i go about fixing it?
[02:36] <unimatrix9> AlbertK what does it load?
[02:36] <unimatrix9> just the shell?
[02:36] <jfanaian> rylan: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[02:37] <jfanaian> rylan: there's a wget command you should run, use the one for 6.10
[02:37] <Hammwell> EnseignRedshrit: I tried doing the sudo apt-get install imagamagick and it didnt really seem to do anything. Will maybe try that again before pressing ahead with the other.
[02:37] <rylan> jfanaian, danke shun
[02:38] <Rooy> blamethrower: ok, ececute that command, under the "Section Screen" add this line: Option "HWCursor" "1"
[02:38] <AlbertK> unimatrix9: when i start a normal gnome session. the load-screen appears, but it stops loading right at the "metacity - window manager" position
[02:38] <jfanaian> rylan: huh?
[02:38] <Hammwell> i wonder if not having the build-essentials tho will cause other problems with trying to build/install perl modules. I was having trouble even installing the DBI perl module too heh.
[02:38] <EnsignRedshirt> Hammwell: The package (at least in dapper) is "imagemagick"
[02:38] <rylan> jfanaian,  thanks
[02:38] <jfanaian> fyrestrtr: Is there any other alterantive than modifying the interfaces file?
[02:38] <jfanaian> rylan: Oh! no problem :)
[02:38] <Draco> I am trying to update my package information via synaptic but I am failing download on all Translatio-en_ZA repositories any idea why ?
[02:38] <blamethrower> ok i wrote that down
[02:39] <blamethrower> anything else i should try?
[02:39] <Rooy> blamethrower: nothing else i know
[02:39] <blamethrower> k i'll try that
[02:40] <blamethrower> can i do that while using the livecd?
[02:40] <Rooy> blamethrower: wait, nvidia-settings
[02:40] <nospi> how do i skin the taskbar and panel?
[02:40] <EnsignRedshirt> Hammwell: What do you mean when you say "it didn't really seem to do anything"?
[02:40] <Rooy> blamethrower: you can do that with the livecd if you know where the installation is mounted
[02:40] <psygrass> hi...can i ask a question?
[02:41] <blamethrower> I haven't actually installed anything yet
[02:41] <Draco> psygrass you just did :P
[02:41] <EnsignRedshirt> psygrass: !ask
[02:41] <nospi> anybody know?
[02:41] <EnsignRedshirt> ooops
[02:41] <nospi> can i get a program?
[02:41] <EnsignRedshirt> !ask
[02:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:41] <jfanaian> How can I change my default route on nm-applet? I can't do it through the editing the interfaces because that will break nm-applet
[02:41] <nospi> like in windows i used WindowBlinds and StyleXP
[02:41] <Rooy> blamethrower: uhm, you can't edit the cd
[02:41] <blamethrower> so I have to install first
[02:41] <psygrass> lol.... ok i was trying to install google earth through Gdeb package manager... and it took so long... so i killed the process
[02:42] <TMH_> Hi. I've set up Ubuntu as a server, and it will be routing my network traffic. Where do I set the defaults for my various interfaces?
[02:42] <blamethrower> which means if it doesn't work, I' screwd lol
[02:42] <rylan> one more thing. im stuck on really slow internet ( live in china) and im stuck behind a router i cant play with. is there any way i can fanangle some extra oomph out of my connection?
[02:42] <Rooy> nospi: there's system-->pref-->themes, and if those doesn't suit you, search apt for themes
[02:42] <TMH_> I would have thought that it would have been /etc/network/interfaces but that doesn't appear to do anything
[02:42] <Stonekeeper> hi. anyone got a highpoint rocket raid 2220 here?
[02:42] <psygrass> now i can't use my synaptic package manager....and also can't use the update manager
[02:42] <unimatrix9> AlbertK ; i did some looking around, but cant find an solution , yet, was the system running out of diskspace?
[02:42] <nospi> Rooy, yeah but they don't actually skin the bar or panel
[02:42] <Hammwell> EnsignRedshirt: well, I still couldnt do perl -e 'use Image::Magick', which installing that is supposed to be part of imagemagick I thought. I'm not actually ready to use imagemagick yet, just wanted to get it installed. I should probably wait to ask more about it.
[02:43] <Rooy> blamethrower: also after you have installed, there's the nvidia's own driver that you can select
[02:43] <AlbertK> unimatrix9: no, i just hit the reset button accidently
[02:43] <psygrass> it says this: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[02:43] <EnsignRedshirt> Hammwell: Oh, you want the perl module for imagemagick.
[02:43] <Rooy> blamethrower: try it to see if that make a difference first
[02:43] <unimatrix9> hmm
[02:43] <blamethrower> ok
[02:43] <blamethrower> one more thing
[02:43] <rylan> one more thing. im stuck on really slow internet ( live in china) and im stuck behind a router i cant play with. is there any way i can fanangle some extra oomph out of my connection?
[02:43] <predaeus> nospi: are you on Ubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[02:43] <psygrass> what am i supposed to do...... i am new here??:-D
[02:43] <unimatrix9> AlbertK can you get into terminal?
[02:43] <bayziders> How can i make a bootable iso cd in ubuntu?
[02:44] <bayziders> I burned a iso in gnomebreaker but it was not boot able
[02:44] <NY00123> Try K3b
[02:44] <blamethrower> if i wanted to setup my adsl i'll just have to go to the terminal and type adsl-setup right?
[02:44] <Rooy> !gimmie
[02:44] <NY00123> bayziders, somehow it worked for me -_-
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gimmie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <EnsignRedshirt> Hammwell: I haven't used it, but a quick search in Synaptic suggests that the package that you want is "perlmagick"
[02:44] <rylan> Psygrass just ask for help
[02:44] <AlbertK> unimatrix9: ofcourse
[02:44] <NY00123> and in the worst case bayziders, mkisofs + cdrecord (if I'm not wrong)
[02:44] <psygrass> i already did.....
[02:44] <blamethrower> I feel so noobish
[02:44] <bayziders> im limited on cd-rs so i just wanna get it right
[02:44] <psygrass> please someone help me.........
[02:45] <rylan> one more thing. im stuck on really slow internet ( live in china) and im stuck behind a router i cant play with. is there any way i can fanangle some extra oomph out of my connection?
[02:45] <billy> psygrass: sudo dpkg-reconfigure aptitude
[02:45] <Draco> are the repositories working correctly atm I am getting a lot of 404 not found messages with apt-update
[02:46] <unimatrix9> AlbertK in terminal do sudo touch /forcefsck
[02:46] <rylan> one more thing. im stuck on really slow internet ( live in china) and im stuck behind a router i cant play with. is there any way i can fanangle some extra oomph out of my connection? well aside from strangling my roomates and using their blood as a sacrifice to the great firewall of china?
[02:46] <EnsignRedshirt> psygrass: When you killed gdebi, it may have left behind a file that indicates that access to the apt database is still locked.  I'm not sure how to fix that, but I bet someone here does.
[02:46] <stephan> hi guys I have the problem with my webserver I can only access via localhost
[02:46] <predaeus> nospi, if you are on Ubuntu and using gnome you can find more themes at http://gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org.  Metacity themes are for window borders and title bars. GTK 2.x themes are for buttons, panel, scrollbars etc.
[02:46] <stephan> I can ping the webserver but not connect
[02:46] <Wait`And`Bleed> !pppoe
[02:46] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[02:46] <NY00123> To another topic: How to create an ISO with non-English filenames? They all become _ or something else
[02:46] <bayziders> ....im not running in kde
[02:46] <stephan> first I used apache2 but now I have the same problem with lighthttpd
[02:46] <bayziders> so how could i use this
[02:46] <AlbertK> unimatrix9: did it
[02:46] <unimatrix9> reboot
[02:47] <AlbertK> k, cya soon
[02:47] <psygrass> ok it asked me for password..... i entered it.... but nothing happened
[02:47] <unimatrix9> to do the fsck check
[02:47] <Rooy> Draco: probably ubuntu repos are updating
[02:47] <Draco> Rooy cool, will try tomorrow
[02:47] <Rooy> Draco: not sure how long it will last though
[02:48] <bayziders> !iso
[02:48] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:48] <billy> psygrass: sorry.  it was worth a shot.  I didn't read your entire problem.  I'll scroll up to see if I'm able to help.
[02:48] <NY00123> ubotu thanks
[02:48] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:48] <Rooy> Draco if waiting doesn't help, try selecting other servers from synaptic-->Settings--> repo
[02:48] <psygrass> ok i will say that again....
[02:48] <NY00123> haven't thought about that solution XD
[02:48] <stephan> any ideas ?
[02:48] <nospi> predaeus, thanks :)
[02:48] <bayziders> There is no program that can burn boot able isos???????????
[02:49] <EnsignRedshirt> bayziders: Probably *any
[02:49] <rylan> one more thing. im stuck on really slow internet ( live in china) and im stuck behind a router i cant play with. is there any way i can fanangle some extra oomph out of my connection? well aside from strangling my roomates and using their blood as a sacrifice to the great firewall of china?
[02:49] <nospi> predaeus, ubuntu, sorry i was afk
[02:49] <EnsignRedshirt> bayziders: Probably *any* program that can burn a CD can burn a bootable CD
[02:49] <Draco> Rooy first time im using 6.10 and seeing Translation-Za repositories but theyre all failing, any ideas I have chosen main server and not local server
[02:49] <Stonekeeper> hey, can anyone possible give me a link to a way i can add a custom driver to a ubuntu CD so when it installs, it picks up the driver?
[02:50] <bayziders> EnsignRedshirt: would like to tell me which one T_T
[02:50] <B|nTaRa> !mp3
[02:50] <NY00123> ubotu that's weird. Using the mount method filenames are alright. With an archive manager (and according to mkisofs) they get replaced by _
[02:50] <Rooy> bayziders: that mean a bootable iso will make a bootable cd, just some program/cd recorder/disc combination didn't workout well
[02:50] <Stonekeeper> or is there a way to give the installer a driver at install time (like redhat)
[02:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:50] <B|nTaRa> !mp4
[02:50] <NY00123> LOL, ubotu is a bot ;P
[02:50] <EnsignRedshirt> bayziders: Make sure you burn the image, and don't just write the file to the CD.  Also make sure you don't use too high a speed.
[02:50] <Rooy> Draco: don't worry about the translation repo failing, en_US does also
[02:50] <EnsignRedshirt> bayziders: I use k3b (and I am not using KDE either--k3b work fine under gnome).
[02:50] <Draco> Rooy ok cool thanks
[02:51] <rylan> i was enjoying that conversation, you and a bot...
[02:51] <bayziders> the burn worked it just was not boot able
[02:51] <alf> ll
[02:51] <NY00123> ;P
[02:51] <Rooy> bayziders: there's way to check the burned disk's quality
[02:51] <rylan> bayziders, you made sure to select boot from cd right?
[02:51] <bayziders> Well it
[02:51] <bayziders> s a mac so i held down c
[02:51] <psygrass> i killed lengthy google earth installation process......now when i try to use the synaptic or the update manager i got this massege: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:51] <whard> hi ! how i can install soft modem on ubuntu edgy . My soft modem is Ambient MD8822
[02:52] <whard> but i m not getting any howto for ubuntu
[02:52] <Rooy> bayziders: is there a program named md5sum on your mac?
[02:52] <rambo3> !modem
[02:52] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:52] <whard> sorry its MD8820
[02:52] <bayziders> Rooy wouldent know it isnt powerful enough to run tiger so owhen ever i open a app it crashes
[02:52] <bayziders> this is why i need to burn the disk ='(
[02:53] <Rooy> bayziders: can you open a terminal?
[02:53] <bayziders> yes
[02:53] <Rooy> bayziders: is the a command "md5sum" there?
[02:53] <billy> psygrass:  what happens when you try that command in a terminal, putting apt at the end of it?
[02:53] <bayziders> the files are not on the mac thou the files are on my ubuntu pc desktop
[02:53] <javad> sorry my fstab table is :
[02:54] <javad> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[02:54] <javad> #
[02:54] <javad> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[02:54] <javad> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[02:54] <javad> # /dev/sda4       /media/windows   vntfs   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[02:54] <javad> UUID=b9800a7d-19dd-40dd-92f6-e03f02ba4dd1 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:54] <javad> # /dev/sda6
[02:54] <javad> UUID=af7a81ab-c814-42df-882f-4de684ceebff none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:54] <javad> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:54] <unimatrix9> AlbertK and ?
[02:54] <javad> would you plz help me
[02:54] <Rooy> !paste | javad
[02:54] <javad> to have acorrection
[02:54] <ubotu> javad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:54] <AlbertK> unimatrix9: no problem at all
[02:54] <unimatrix9> so its fixed?
[02:54] <AlbertK> no
[02:54] <psygrass> it says the operation requires speruser privilages
[02:54] <AlbertK> still not working, but it guess the configuration is broken
[02:55] <unimatrix9> hmm, to bad...
[02:55] <billy> psygrass:  yes.  be sure to place a sudo before it, like this -> sudo dpkg --configure -a apt.
[02:55] <psygrass> ok
[02:55] <firedog> When installing using the default live image on the alternate cd, how long should I expect the install to be?
[02:55] <unimatrix9> back up data with the live cd and reinstall...
[02:55] <AlbertK> i reinstalled metacity and when i start a console-ubuntu und type "metacity" it won't load
[02:55] <javad> hey ubotu
[02:55] <AlbertK> so i wonder, how to set metacity defaults
[02:55] <javad> I'm really confused
[02:55] <bayziders> Rooy: the command is not found
[02:55] <javad> plz help me
[02:55] <AlbertK> no, i won't reinstall, thats hideous
[02:55] <javad> I cannot access to ntfs file in windows
[02:56] <javad> so that is my fstab table
[02:56] <javad> that I add one line to it
[02:56] <billy> !ntfs
[02:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:56] <billy> !ntfs | javad
[02:56] <ubotu> javad: please see above
[02:56] <bayziders> Rooy when i try to view the cd conetents on my pc it says it is right protected what does this mean?
[02:56] <Rooy> bayziders: i use that to check the burned cd's quality when using linux
[02:56] <Roadrunner1985> !ntfs-3g
[02:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:56] <unimatrix9> AlbertK you could also install icewm, or windowmaker...and try to get into that...then later fix gnoe
[02:56] <unimatrix9> gnome *
[02:57] <psygrass> it says that the command .... doesn't take any non-option arguments.... and shows a list of options.
[02:57] <Draco> Rooy I finally got libcup..dev loaded, ran ./configure and it seemed to run without errors
[02:57] <bayziders> well
[02:57] <unimatrix9> good luck, i hope you get it working soon..
[02:57] <bayziders> i uwill use that ntfs thingy and do it in windows
[02:57] <Rooy> bayziders: another try, is there a command dmesg on mac?
[02:57] <Rooy> Draco: great, now continue on with the dance: make
[02:57] <bayziders> rooy: no
[02:57] <B|nTaRa> !application
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about application - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <whard> My soft modem is Ambient MD8820
[02:58] <AlbertK> unimatrix thx
[02:58] <AlbertK> i'll try rm -rf .metacity
[02:58] <whard> and its drivers are not there on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:58] <Draco> Rooy make ? :P
[02:58] <B|nTaRa> !wine
[02:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:58] <billy> psygrass:  did you try the command with nothing behind it like, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:58] <psygrass> i put apt at the end
[02:58] <Hammwell> after installing build-essential, my perl DBI module installation worked! thats great. Now I'm trying to put in DBD::mysql but its bailing on not finding mysql_config ... I _did_ install mysql-server and its working as far as i can tell. is there some other connector type mysql package I need?
[02:58] <Rooy> bayziders: so i advise you to burn another disk, with lowest speed, and without other apps running
[02:59] <firedog> !ask
[02:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:59] <Rooy> Draco: yeah, after "./configure" always is "make"
[02:59] <SeanTater>  Is this normal? filefrag (a 700MB ISO) 613 extents found, perfection would be 6 extents
[02:59] <Draco> Rooy ok done make
[03:00] <bayziders> I burnt it at the lowest speed but it just seems to burn the iso not te files with in the iso
[03:00] <Draco> Rooy just said nothing to be done
[03:00] <Rooy> Draco: prolly you did make it before...
[03:00] <jfanaian> How can I set the default route using network manager?
[03:00] <psygrass> billy; do i have to put it as it is ...... without the apt at the end?
[03:01] <firedog> !tell me about !install
[03:01] <IdleOne> !install | firedog
[03:01] <ubotu> firedog: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:01] <Draco> Rooy ok so after configure and make ?
[03:01] <billy> psygrass:  I'd try that.  First, though, post the *exact* error message for me, k?
[03:01] <Rooy> Draco: anyway, next one is "make install", but it install in somewhere only root can write to, so you have to use "sudo make install"
[03:01] <flake> in programming games for linux, how do I detect key hits or mouse movements/buttons.. in windows I use getasynckeystate()
[03:01] <firedog> im usig a new irc client
[03:01] <EnsignRedshirt> Hammwell: Start Synaptic, and use the search button.  Search for "libdbd perl". Install what you need. For example, I see libdbd-mysql-perl in there.
[03:01] <psygrass> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:01] <firedog> and im trying to see how it displays certain things
[03:02] <firedog> for example, idleone, you just sent me a message and it highlighted it
[03:02] <firedog> i cant figure what this client does to do that
[03:02] <Rooy> flake: prolly you will find more answers in the language's channel
[03:02] <IdleOne> psygrass, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:02] <psygrass> k
[03:02] <flake> k thanks
[03:02] <IdleOne> firedog, xchat auto highlights anything with your current nickname
[03:02] <psygrass> billy: nothing happened
[03:02] <Draco> Rooy ok done couple of lines with printer name which i think is a good thing
[03:02] <Hammwell> EnsignRedshirt: thanks for suggestion. Will try. Synaptic is found in the applciations in the GUI?
[03:02] <TMH_> I've set up a load of rules with iptables. How do I make it so they get applied when i next start up my system?
[03:03] <TMH_> it'd be nice if there was an ubuntu specific way to do this
[03:03] <firedog> so just by you typing firedog, it highlights it?
[03:03] <IdleOne> firedog, you can add words you want highlighted in xchat preferences
[03:03] <peepsalot> my updater is saying I need to do a Ditribution Upgrade to get all the latest packages, does this mean it will put Feisty on this box? (I have Edgy)
[03:03] <Rooy> Draco next down the guide is restarting the CUPS daemon "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[03:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Hammwell: In dapper, anyway, it is in System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[03:03] <redDEAD> peepsalot, no
[03:03] <Hammwell> thx
[03:03] <seraph> it means a thorough upgrade of the existing version iirc
[03:04] <seraph> can someone confirm that?
[03:04] <Draco> Rooy done
[03:04] <Rooy> Draco: then he said In System > Administration > Printing, choose "AL-C1100"
[03:04] <AlbertK> unimatrix9: i fixed it
[03:04] <Rooy> Draco: that's the end of the guide, next is credit part: "Three evenings of fiddling over."
[03:04] <firedog> !install
[03:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:05] <AlbertK> unimatrix9: alt - ctrl - f1 -> login -> rm -rf .metacity
[03:05] <Draco> Rooy its not there :)
[03:05] <AlbertK> or sth like that :D
[03:05] <firedog> !time
[03:05] <peepsalot> ok thanks guys, I am doing the upgrade.
[03:05] <peepsalot> I get a new xchat, yay.
[03:05] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[03:05] <Rooy> Draco: oooopps
[03:05] <Draco> sigh grrrr sigh
[03:05] <psygrass> billy: what am i supposed to do now?
[03:05] <B|nTaRa> i have problem with Wine
[03:05] <Draco> i wonder if the acculaser will be included in ver 7
[03:06] <Draco> worst case I can wait till april
[03:06] <billy> psygrass: the first step is to take a deep breath and know that you're problem will be fixed.
[03:06] <whard> My soft modem is Ambient MD8820 . and its drivers are not there on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[03:06] <psygrass> i have taken the breath...:-D
[03:06] <Rooy> Draco: try restarting that daemon again maybe? or start all over from unpacking
[03:06] <billy> psygrass: I'm currently rummaging the internet, seeing if I can find clues.  try not to worry.
[03:07] <psygrass> k..thanx a lot
[03:07] <Draco> Rooy got the whole process recorded, ill give it a try again after restart. Thanks for the help
[03:07] <Rooy> Draco: hope you and your boss have a good time with GNU/Linux
[03:08] <conrad_> How can i identify my graphics card?
[03:08] <Rooy> conrad_: try lspci
[03:09] <Vedo> conrad_: try lshw
[03:10] <soweto76> What is the status of #ubuntu+?
[03:10] <EnsignRedshirt> conrad_: Or (assuming it is working and you are running gnome) System->Administration->Device Manager (in Dapper, anyway)
[03:10] <DDS> guys , what is the console command to force certain screen resolution?Thx in advance.
[03:10] <billy> psygrass: when you ran `sudo dpkg --configure -a`, nothing happened?  it took you straight back to the input prompt?
[03:11] <psygrass> yes
[03:11] <whard> My soft modem is Ambient MD8820 . and its drivers are not there on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto .. and not in further sites . wat should i do ????
[03:13] <EnsignRedshirt> soweto76: Do you mean #ubuntu+1 ?
[03:14] <billy> psygrass: someone earlier correctly diagnosed the problem: a file left behind from your earlier install attempt is trippiing things up.
[03:15] <omeil_> is Konqueror capable of using Java?
[03:15] <whard> My soft modem is Ambient MD8820 . and its drivers are not there on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto .. and not in further sites . wat should i do ????
[03:15] <defrysk> yes
[03:15] <omeil_> how do i get java for it?
[03:15] <psygrass> ok...... i have to remove it?
[03:15] <defrysk> omeil_, try #kubuntu
[03:15] <soweto76> EnsignRedshirt, It used to be #ubuntu+ -- trying it now thanks!
[03:16] <billy> psygrass: yes. you have to find the file and remove it.  it will probably end with either ~ or .swp.  Look in /home/yourname/.Gdeb
[03:17] <omeil_> its just that im writing a Linux runescape client and i have to use the KDE Konqueror for the browsing :(, can't use firefox :(
[03:17] <shilpi> how do i upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 using cdrom?
[03:18] <arrow> Does anyone know what catagory in synaptic package manager that gtk2gnutella is in? I can't seem to find it
[03:18] <psygrass> billy: i have no folder called .gdeb in home/ my name/
[03:18] <shilpi> i used the following commands sudo apt-cdrom update
[03:18] <billy> arrow:  are you just looking for the package?
[03:18] <arrow> yes
[03:18] <Cave`> is it possible to update gnome ro 2.18?
[03:18] <shilpi> can ne1 guide me?
[03:18] <ladonna> any wireless experts in here?
[03:18] <I3ooI3oo> arrow did you search for it
[03:18] <billy> arrow: you could do a sudo apt-cache search "packagename" in a terminal.
[03:19] <ekim_> Yo guys
[03:19] <ekim_> Ubuntu owns
[03:19] <ekim_> ...
[03:19] <arrow> billy: I think I'm spelling it wrong though
[03:19] <billy> psygrass: did you try .Gdeb or .gdeb?
[03:19] <billy> it's case sensitive.
[03:19] <psygrass> billy: both
[03:19] <frectomex> who can tell me how ca i install my tv tunner
[03:20] <EnsignRedshirt> arrow: There is no gtk2gnutella shown in packages.ubuntu.com.  How about gtk-gnutella?
[03:21] <ladonna> can anyone help with wireless pci card install
[03:21] <arrow> maybe, something like that
[03:21] <whard> My soft modem is Ambient MD8820 . and its drivers are not there on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto .. and not in further sites . wat should i do ????
[03:21] <arrow> found it, thzx
[03:21] <etion> Hello everybody
[03:21] <ladonna> is anyone using a wireless card to connect
[03:21] <kaushal> hi
[03:22] <mbac> word
[03:22] <etion> how can i do to change the module used by a usb wlan
[03:22] <billy> psygrass:  that file is somewhere.  just not sure where.
[03:22] <frectomex> where can i find support for LEADTEK DTV 2000 H
[03:22] <kylequamme> ladonna: i use an atheros
[03:22] <ladonna> did u use madwifi
[03:22] <psygrass> billy: if i find the ... just delete it or what?
[03:22] <kylequamme> ladonna: i believe atheros is built into the kernel, it recognized it out of the box
[03:22] <billy> psygrass: yes.  drop a bomb on that motha.
[03:23] <psygrass> billy: ok:-D
[03:23] <ladonna> kyle: how can you tell what chipset? lspci does not give me a chipset
[03:23] <Rooy> ladonna: lspc -nn tells you that
[03:24] <soweto76> kylequamme, perhaps atheros is in restricted linux-image instead
[03:24] <Rooy> ladonna: the pair of numbers at the end is manufacturer:device, unique
[03:24] <kylequamme> rooy: ty, i know lspc did it, didn't know what arguments you had to pass
[03:24] <freezey> whats the command to copy a DIR and all of the subDIRS and files?
[03:24] <Rooy> kylequamme: :)
[03:24] <jadacyrus> freezey: cp /my/dir -R
[03:24] <ladonna> Rooy: this is what I get: Belkin Unknown device 700f (rev 20)
[03:24] <billy> psygrass:  try this.  we're going to search for the file using wildcards.  first run `sudo updatedb`.
[03:25] <kylequamme> soweto76: perhaps, but i didn't have to install anything to make it work, it just did
[03:25] <psygrass> billy: ok
[03:25] <bayziders> im trying to burn a iso in k3b and it says my iso is not a use able image what is wrong
[03:25] <billy> psygrass:  now run `locate *.*~`.
[03:25] <tuxcrafter> i am dying
[03:25] <soweto76> What is the difference between linux-image generic and 386?
[03:25] <ladonna> kylequamme: this is what I have : Belkin Unknown device 700f (rev 20)
[03:25] <kylequamme> ladonna: have you done a search on google for that phrase?
[03:25] <EnsignRedshirt> psygrass, billy:  You might want to briefly explain what you now know to the channel. *Someone* here must know how to fix that.
[03:26] <billy> EnsignRedshirt:  I don't think either one of us has mentioned taking our conversation elsewhere.
[03:26] <ladonna> yes, only info I could find is for version 7001 and others. I have version 7000
[03:26] <whard> My soft modem is Ambient MD8820 . and its drivers are not there on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto .. and not in further sites . wat should i do ????
[03:26] <EnsignRedshirt> billy ?
[03:26] <soweto76> kylequamme, me too but it seems to be part of madwifi and in the linux restricted modules.
[03:26] <kylequamme> ladonna: what's the difference between the -00 and -01?
[03:26] <Pensa`MIA> is there a good bandwith monitor program for ubuntu wich shows me how much MB's I downloaded in a given period?
[03:27] <ladonna> I dont know? but I have tried both procedures for all
[03:27] <psygrass> billy: ok... i got a list of ...deb files. now what?
[03:27] <EnsignRedshirt> billy: I just reread my previous message... maybe it didn't say what I meant :)
[03:28] <ladonna> kylequamme: im not sure if its a broadcom chipset. Ive tried ndiswrapper with bcmwl5.inf, did not work
[03:28] <bayziders> Does any one know what's up?
[03:28] <billy> EnsignRedShirt:  psygrass was in the middle of downloading Google Earth using Gdeb when he/she cancelled the download.  This has caused synaptic and update manager to trip up over some file that is haning in midair.  From what I've read on the web, if psygrass deletes that mid-air file, apt will go back to working as usual.  We're now looking for that file, though I'm not sure where it is or what its extension might be.
[03:28] <kylequamme> ladonna: oic, maybe a different revision?
[03:30] <billy> psygrass:  do any of those seem to indicate that they have any relation to Google EArth?
[03:30] <ladonna> kylequamme: ive been trying to get this to work for 2 weeks. Do you have any suggestions
[03:30] <Vilhelms> I keep getting a "No profile for user 'myusername' found." on my ~/.xsession-errors file. Does anyone know what this means?
[03:30] <psygrass> no...they are about beryl and..ubuntu all, ubuntu i386
[03:30] <kylequamme> ladonna: you tried to use belkin's driver for the card under ndiswrapper?
[03:30] <bayziders> I'm trying to burn a iso and it says it is not a valid disk image what do i do???????
[03:30] <psygrass> billy: there is: /etc/apt/sources.list~
[03:31] <psygrass> billy: and : /etc/apt/trusted.gpg~
[03:31] <billy> psygrass: it *was* Google Earth that you cancelled right?
[03:31] <I3ooI3oo> bayziders : is it a know good file ?
[03:31] <EnsignRedshirt> billy: Heh, well, it was worth a shot.
[03:31] <psygrass> google earth yes
[03:31] <bayziders> I3ooI3oo what does that mean?
[03:31] <billy> EnsignRedshirt:  yeah.  you're right.  thanks for looking in.
[03:31] <ladonna> kylequamme: yes I tried bcmwl5.inf and result was invalid driver. I also tried the driver on the cd (XP driver) BLKWGDv7.inf
[03:32] <bayziders> a know good file?
[03:32] <billy> psygrass:  do you recall the name of the .deb file as it was downloading?  even part of it?  was "earth" part of the name?
[03:32] <kylequamme> ladonna: did you load the madwifi module?
[03:32] <EnsignRedshirt> billy, psygrass: You might poke around in /var/cache/apt, /var/cache/apt/archives, /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[03:33] <psygrass> not sure
[03:33] <ladonna> kylequamme: no, was not sure if i needed to
[03:33] <Vilhelms> I keep getting a "No profile for user 'myusername' found." on my ~/.xsession-errors file. Does anyone know what this means?
[03:33] <billy> EnsignRedshirt:  that's a great idea. psygrass: use your graphical file browser to search those directories and look for a file that would indicate it has some relation to Google Earth.
[03:33] <kylequamme> ladonna: well if u want to use madwifi try entering "modprobe ath_pci" into the terminal and see if that helps
[03:34] <psygrass> k
[03:34] <bayziders> I3ooI3oo you there?
[03:34] <livingdaylight> is Feisty going to be a 3-D desktop?
[03:34] <ladonna> kylequamme: Module ath_pci not found.
[03:34] <I3ooI3oo> bayriders: it means is this a file you downloaded or or a file that you had burned before and can't burn now.
[03:35] <billy> EnsignRedshirt:  isn't there a way to clear out the apt archives with a simple command in the terminal?
[03:35] <jrib> Vilhelms: does it say "myusername" or your ral username?
[03:35] <bayziders> I did burn it before but it was not bootable
[03:35] <Vilhelms> jrib, it says jfanaian
[03:35] <jrib> livingdaylight: not by default
[03:35] <Vilhelms> jrib, Which is my username
[03:35] <kylequamme> ladonna: well then madwifi is not installed correctly
[03:35] <I3ooI3oo> cause if it is a download, the file might not have been complete at the server
[03:35] <Vilhelms> jrib, Sorry i just put that so ... you know, I don't even know why i put that lol
[03:35] <livingdaylight> jrib: oh, good, coz my system is 2d
[03:35] <predaeus> billy: apt-get clean
[03:35] <jrib> Vilhelms: I'm googling for:  "no profile for user" found         and reading through some of the hits now
[03:35] <ladonna> kylequamme: very new to linux, how can this be accomplished
[03:35] <bayziders> It worked for other people
[03:36] <Vilhelms> jrib, I already tried that, :(
[03:36] <I3ooI3oo> so the first time you burned it , it worked but wasn't able to boot from it?
[03:36] <kylequamme> did you install from a .deb package?
[03:36] <bayziders> correct
[03:36] <Vilhelms> jrib, Tried the forums, google, yahoo, and the only result which had a fix was for breezy and didn't seem applicable to edgy :\
[03:36] <xpired> vir ath_pci.. do you have to have the "restricted-modules" with the kernel package?
[03:36] <capiira> hi all, does ubuntu have gnome 2.18?
[03:36] <I3ooI3oo> then you tried it again and couldn't burn it
[03:36] <kylequamme> ladonna: did you install from a .deb package?
[03:36] <billy> psygrass:  try that command predaeus just listed.  `sudo apt-get clean`.  that may clean the file out.
[03:36] <bayziders> correct
[03:36] <jrib> Vilhelms: I get that too, it's normal.  Seems to be related to Sabayon
[03:36] <I3ooI3oo> same exact file or a new Dl of it ?
[03:37] <bayziders> exact same file
[03:37] <predaeus> billy, psygrass: it clears the apt cache of packages.
[03:37] <bayziders> im not downloading another 1000mb file
[03:37] <Vilhelms> jrib, Yeah I found those but they don't apply to me because I don't have that ... whatever that is :\
[03:37] <I3ooI3oo> do it's a dvd  ?
[03:37] <ladonna> kylequamme: i followed a link in a howto, at one point i believe i used the terminal for install
[03:37] <psygrass> billy: ensignredshirt: there is nothing with a name google or google earth..... in those folders
[03:37] <bayziders> no it
[03:37] <I3ooI3oo> * so it's*
[03:37] <bayziders> 's 2 isos
[03:37] <jrib> Vilhelms: apt-cache policy sabayon
[03:37] <I3ooI3oo> oic
[03:38] <billy> psygrass: sudo apt-get clean
[03:38] <psygrass> billy: ok
[03:38] <bayziders> and my ibook really needs this cd to boot ='(
[03:38] <Vilhelms> jrib, wow its installed o.o
[03:38] <simon> heelo
[03:38] <simon> hello
[03:38] <Vilhelms> jrib, What is that?
[03:38] <kylequamme> ladonna: ok, so you probably did. try going back to the terminal and typing "sudo apt-get install restricted-modules"
[03:38] <billy> psygrass: sudo apt-get update
[03:38] <I3ooI3oo> have you tried to boot the cd in another computer ?
[03:38] <simon> is there anybody who can help me installing wpa in Ubuntu /?
[03:38] <Vilhelms> jrib, oh nvm... i see
[03:38] <jrib> Vilhelms: it lets you create user profiles for gnome,  try apt-cache show sabayon
[03:39] <bayziders> no because it only works on macs
[03:39] <jrib> Vilhelms: system > administration > user profile editor
[03:39] <simon> Do you know how to install WPA on UBUNTU ?
[03:39] <xpired> simon: with the wpa_supplicant you mean?
[03:39] <Vilhelms> jrib, Ah okay... so that is related to the issue then?
[03:39] <jrib> !wpa | simon
[03:39] <ubotu> simon: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:39] <babo> alias runserver='python manage.py runserver > output.txt 2>&1 &'
[03:39] <simon> I did it
[03:39] <babo> shouldn't runserver then start my python server ?
[03:39] <psygrass> all files in the var/cache/apt/archives are gone
[03:39] <simon> but I still does not work
[03:39] <ladonna> kylequamme: E: Couldn't find package restricted-modules
[03:39] <firedog> how am i able to switch between desktops and see the 3D cube?
[03:39] <jrib> Vilhelms: sorry, what issue?
[03:39] <capiira> so anyone know if 6.10 updates gnome to 2.18 ?
[03:40] <Vilhelms> jrib, The no profile for user found
[03:40] <billy> psygrass:  try using synaptic now.
[03:40] <bayziders> so I3ooI3oo what do i do?
[03:40] <babo> you can alias a command like that right ?
[03:40] <omeil> anyone here got yahoo ? i need someone to test a proggy
[03:40] <jrib> Vilhelms: yeah, that's exactly it.  The program just outputs that it didn't find a user profile.  It's not an error, just information
[03:40] <Vilhelms> jrib, Well not really an issue, but I think thats the reason I can't login using Xfce session because I made a new user and it can login to xfce session fine
[03:40] <xpired> ladonna: aptitude search restricted-modules
[03:40] <kylequamme> ladonna: ok, we'll need to add some repositories, what version of ubuntu are u running?
[03:40] <ardchoille> capiira: If you want gnome 2.18, you'll have to wait for feisty
[03:40] <jrib> Vilhelms: what happens when you attempt to login to xfce?
[03:40] <xpired> ladonna: then choose the one you want
[03:41] <psygrass> billy: i will try the update manager..... as there some updates. is that ok?
[03:41] <capiira> ah ok
[03:41] <I3ooI3oo> is the Ibook running ?
[03:41] <jrib> !effects | firedog
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <firedog> !effects
[03:41] <jrib> !beryl | firedog
[03:41] <ladonna> kylequamme: edgy eft
[03:41] <ubotu> firedog: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:41] <capiira> maybe there exist unofficial repositories for 2.18 for 6.10
[03:41] <billy> psygrass:  yes.  I think so.  update manager gave the error earlier, and I think it uses apt to work, so if there's an error, it ought to show up there too.  Give 'er a go.
[03:41] <Vilhelms> jrib, I get an error that my xsession lasted less than 10 seconds and i get an error about that and hrm... let me see if i can find the error hold on
[03:42] <Vilhelms> jrib, Okay here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10339/plain/
[03:42] <bayziders> Yes it is running but  when i open to many apps or move my mouse to quickly it crashes because tiger can run on 256 megs of ram but thats about all you can run on it
[03:42] <simon> so is here anybody who can help me ???
[03:42] <kylequamme> ladonna: ubuntuguide.org has instructions on adding additional repos
[03:42] <psygrass> billy: now it is checking for updates....... and stuck there
[03:42] <livingdaylight> jrib: do you know about integrated graphics? Mine is sis Is that any good for Feisty 3d?
[03:42] <billy> psygrass:  just relax for a moment.
[03:42] <tehxed> I have blue/green/red dots showing up randomly on my screen everywhere... after I installed Beryl on Ubuntu Edgy Eft. I have an ATI Radeon 9800SE (R350).
[03:42] <I3ooI3oo> well if the first CD burn fine. i would double check to see if the ibook was set to boot from the CD.  they normaly will not do so unless you specify it when shutingdown or while booting by holding a key
[03:42] <ladonna> kylequamme: okay, once repos are added, what should I do next
[03:42] <jrib> livingdaylight: no idea, but you should ask in #ubuntu-effects (or maybe #ubuntu+1 I'm not sure which one is more appropriate...)
[03:43] <simon> PLZ help me
[03:43] <psygrass> billy: k
[03:43] <kylequamme> ladonna: try to install the restricted modules again
[03:43] <jrib> !helpme | simon
[03:43] <ubotu> simon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:43] <bayziders> i inerted the cd and it siad click her to restrt your computer and being instalation
[03:43] <jrib> Vilhelms: how are you trying to login to xfce?
[03:43] <billy> simon:  what are you trying to install, again?
[03:43] <bayziders> it boots with a folder and question makr then right bakc into rtiger
[03:43] <ardchoille> ladonna: Once you add new repos, you should do: sudo apt-get update
[03:43] <bullgard4>  I need guidance how to configure the values in the file /etc/esound/esd.conf
[03:43] <kylequamme> ardchoille: good thinking
[03:43] <billy> psygrass:  still searching, is it?
[03:43] <kylequamme> ardchoille: dur, that would be beneficial
[03:44] <ardchoille> kylequamme: :)
[03:44] <bullgard4> !esd
[03:44] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[03:44] <psygrass> billy: still searching and stuck at the end
[03:44] <Vilhelms> jrib, Yeah, i was talking to a guy yesterday and he said that was probably the issue... but he didn't know how to resolev it
[03:44] <simon> So I have intel 3945ABG and I can see my wifi connection when I am writing iwlist scan but I cant connect to my wifi !! I am using netwrok menager
[03:44] <jrib> Vilhelms: are you logging in through gdm?
[03:44] <Vilhelms> jrib, Yeah
[03:44] <billy> psygrass:  didn't update manager return that error earlier though?
[03:44] <I3ooI3oo> bayriders is it a new OS for the Mac ?
[03:44] <kylequamme> ladonna: did u get ardchoille's message? you need to run that command and then try to install the restricted modules
[03:44] <psygrass> billy: no
[03:44] <jrib> Vilhelms: what version of ubuntu?  Are you using any packages not in the ubuntu repos?
[03:45] <billy> simon:  sorry.  I don't have any experience with wifi.
[03:45] <simon> oh damm
[03:45] <Vilhelms> jrib, I go to Sessions, and select Xfce Session and then login with jfanaian and it gives me that error, but if I do it with the test user (which i made yesterday) it works fine
[03:45] <Vilhelms> jrib, I'm using Ubuntu/edgy
[03:45] <bullgard4> !alsamixer
[03:45] <ladonna> kylequamme: okay, will I need ndiswrapper as well?
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <simon> Mayby there is somo one who can help me
[03:45] <jrib> Vilhelms: hmm what kind of ~/.[xX] *  files do you have?
[03:45] <kylequamme> ladonna: nope, shouldn't
[03:45] <ladonna> kylequamme: and what driver should i use
[03:45] <Yeason> does anyone know if there's a program for linux that will allow me to control the lights on a Dell XPS, I just want to turn them off and google has been no help.
[03:45] <capiira> hmm i found that: http://ftp.gnome.org/ubuntu/ it has 2.18 as repository
[03:46] <piggyg1>  #grub
[03:46] <kylequamme> ladonna: madwifi shouldn't need a driver, madwifi is the driver
[03:46] <capiira> anyone ever tried to add gnome.org as repository?
[03:46] <bayziders> I3ooI3oo no it is jaguar
[03:46] <marshall> hey guys
[03:46] <bayziders> and old os
[03:46] <billy> psygrass:  you search all *three* of those folders that were listed earlier?
[03:46] <marshall> is anyone here experienced with inkscape?
[03:46] <piggyg1> oops
[03:46] <piggyg1> hehehe
[03:46] <piggyg1> sorry about that
[03:46] <psygrass> billy: i think we messed up..... because there were package of beryl and many others gone when i used the last command...... now i have beryl updates in the background, and it is stuck...   although i am not sure
[03:46] <simon> how to configure my wifi /??
[03:46] <ladonna> kylequamme: i understans, I'm still unsure as to what chipset this card is using
[03:46] <kenthomson> Yeason, generally there are no programs for this stuff, you may search on blogs and forums about enthusiasts who have somehow manually configured and tweaked their system to turn them off
[03:46] <madhu> hi everyone here
[03:46] <billy> psygrass:  it's a weird error you've got.
[03:46] <Yeason> I figured that was probably the case, thanks.
[03:46] <kylequamme> ladonna shouldn't matter, looked like both revisions are supported by madwifi
[03:47] <Vilhelms> jrib, xchat2, x.et, xfce4-installer-log, xine, xinitrc, Xmodmap, xprofile, xscreensaver, xsession-errors, Xuathority (all with a . infront of course)
[03:47] <kylequamme> ladonna: shouldn't matter, looked like both revisions are supported by madwifi
[03:47] <madhu> I want a link for how-to install GRUB
[03:47] <tehxed> I have blue/green/red dots showing up randomly on my screen everywhere... after I installed Beryl on Ubuntu Edgy Eft. I have an ATI Radeon 9800SE (R350). Anyone know what the issue could be?
[03:47] <pc05b> anybody can help me to explore ubuntu....plz.plz.plz
[03:47] <wtigerguy> how do get dvd's to wotking unduntu 610
[03:47] <simon> DO I need madwifi to connetct my wifi router with WPA ??
[03:47] <kenthomson> !dvd | wtigerguy
[03:47] <ubotu> wtigerguy: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:47] <kenthomson> !vcd
[03:47] <ladonna> kylequamme: okay, add repos, update, upgrade, install restricted modules......
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <ladonna> kylequamme: ....correct?
[03:48] <psygrass> billy: still stuck at the end......
[03:48] <kylequamme> ladonna: yea, that should do it
[03:48] <madhu> ubotu: can you give link for help on GRUB
[03:48] <bayziders> I3ooI3oo what should i do?
[03:48] <billy> madhu:  i think you can install it with the Super Grub disk.  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot/Super-Grub-Disk-8071.shtml
[03:48] <zuuswa> !grub
[03:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:48] <wtigerguy> totem pops up and gives me an erre
[03:48] <ladonna> kylequamme: and if this does not work I can take a ball bat to my computer
[03:48] <billy> psygrass:  hmm ... just close it out.
[03:48] <kylequamme> ladonna: i hope not, hah
[03:49] <wtigerguy> i can't play dvd's
[03:49] <ardchoille> !restricted
[03:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:49] <felixruina> pc05b: what are you interested in exploring?
[03:49] <pc05b> how can i use the floppy in ubuntu
[03:49] <ladonna> kylequamme: okay, I'm going to give it a shot, you have been very helpful, thankyou
[03:49] <jmjones> wtigerguy: try doing "totem dvd://" at a command prompt
[03:49] <billy> pc05b:  you can't access your floppy drive?
[03:49] <jrib> Vilhelms: pastebin .xinitc and .xprofile
[03:49] <pc05b> yes
[03:50] <jmjones> wtigerguy: assuming you have libdvdcss as someone else mentioned.
[03:50] <ardchoille> wtigerguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[03:50] <psygrass> billy: i killed the update manager..... now when i tried to open the synaptic i got this message: E: The package googleearth needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:50] <psygrass> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[03:50] <kylequamme> ladonna: your welcome, not the greatest guru there is, but i had some of the same problems when i started, so i try to help out when i can
[03:50] <jmjones> wtigerguy: for some reason, clicking on "play dvd" in totem doesn't work.  nor does the autoloaunch.
[03:50] <billy> psygrass:  if we can find a repository for it, you may be good to go.
[03:50] <needhlp> i have a folder with 4 folders in it an i get operation not permitted when trying to delete them. i need help
[03:51] <Cave`> how do i update gnome to 2.18?
[03:51] <jrib> needhlp: how do you try to delete them?
[03:51] <kylequamme> jmjones: probably need the restricted libraries, go to ubuntuguide.org for detailed instructions
[03:51] <bayziders> he vanished on me =\
[03:51] <ardchoille> Cave`: You can do it manually or wait for Feisty
[03:51] <needhlp> sudo rm Music -R
[03:51] <ladonna> kylequamme: yes, this can be very daunting, the chat as been very helpful, the forums not so much
[03:51] <jrib> Cave`: you cannot
[03:51] <kenthomson> HELP; i generally use apt-get to install and remove stuff and occasionally aptitude, but never had i executed the command "aptitude -f install". When i do it now, i get a extremely long output, which at the end asks me whether i want to except what it said above so that it can remove some v.important packages. It wants to remove gfxboot, amarok, checkgmail and other very important programs that i use. Can someone please help me? I have pasted the out
[03:51] <kenthomson> put of "sudo aptitude -f install" here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10483/. I am seriously confused as it automatically thinks that v.imp packages that i use everyday are BROKEN and will be AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED. I am sitting at the command prompt, and it wants me to answer Yes/No/Quit. Please help
[03:51] <psygrass> billy: do u think it is a good idea to reboot.... and see what happens?
[03:51] <Cave`> okay :)
[03:51] <pc05b> any1 can help me
[03:51] <Vilhelms> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10484/plain/
[03:51] <kylequamme> ladonna: yea, i've found the forums to be quite worthless
[03:51] <billy> psygrass:  I'm always down with a good reboot.  :)
[03:51] <jmjones> kylequamme: i'm not having problems so much..... trying to help wtigerguy
[03:51] <jrib> Cave`: you can compile manually like ardchoille but honestly it's best to just wait if you aren't sure how to do that
[03:51] <madhu> Thank you everyone here
[03:52] <|NewUser|> my GRUB are not working fine.. when i restart my computer msg comes " GRUB loading stage1.5.,  GRUB loading. Please wait... "Error 17" " After then no screens nothing come.. i have 3 OS in my system .. Ubuntu, Redhat Enterprise Linux And Windows XP.. All things Working fine.. i just use windows today .. and just Reboot my system after that this screen comes.. how can i Fix my GRUB?
[03:52] <Shaba1> guys I hate to ask this
[03:52] <madhu> bye
[03:52] <billy> psygrass:  I'll have that repository when you get back.
[03:52] <felixruina> pc05b, I'll try to help, although I haven't used a floppy disk in forever
[03:52] <billy> by madhu
[03:52] <Shaba1> but is there a transitional document for window users trying to learn linux
[03:52] <psygrass> billy: k thanx
[03:52] <felixruina> pc05b, do you know about mounting file systems?
[03:52] <ardchoille> Cave`: Yeah, best to wait. I tried compiling gnome once and regretted it.
[03:52] <kylequamme> jmjones: oic, did he already follow the instructions on the ubuntuguide wiki?
[03:52] <pc05b> how about accessing USB flash drives
[03:52] <kenthomson> Shaba1, Ubuntu is a transitional distribution for windows users wanting to learn linux!
[03:52] <pc05b> how will i mount it
[03:52] <kenthomson> Can someone please HELP ME?
[03:53] <scarnia> Hi
[03:53] <jmjones> kylequamme: someone pointed him there.  i was just noting that even with the proper codecs installed, you can still get an error trying to play dvds.....
[03:53] <kenthomson> !hi | scarnia
[03:53] <ubotu> scarnia: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:53] <needhlp> rm: cannot remove directory `Music'
[03:53] <needhlp> :(
[03:53] <jmjones> kylequamme: sometimes you have to do "totem dvd://" to get it to work right....
[03:53] <Cave`> okay thanks for the advice
[03:53] <needhlp>  Operation not permitted
[03:53] <|NewUser|> needhlp: try to use rm -rf dirname
[03:53] <kenthomson> needhlp, "sudo rm -rf home/user/path-to-music-dire
[03:53] <Vilhelms> needhlp, sudo rm
[03:53] <felixruina> pc05b: a usb flash drive should mount automatically when you plug it in
[03:53] <needhlp> thats what i am doing
[03:53] <rm_you> omg so much beeping >_<
[03:54] <kylequamme> jmjones: ah, ok. ya, i hate totem with a passion. vlc is the way to go
[03:54] <felixruina> pc05b: does it not do so for you?
[03:54] <rm_you> I guess that's what I get for hanging out in linux related channels and having "beep on text 'rm'" set :P
[03:54] <|NewUser|> well anyone can help me with GRUB ? how can i fix GRUB?
[03:54] <ardchoille> rm_you: lol
[03:54] <pc05b> yah
[03:54] <kenthomson> kylequamme, vlc for me, can't play .mpg and .avi. Totem does it flawlessly
[03:54] <Vilhelms> rm_you, That made me laugh
[03:54] <kenthomson> !grub  |NewUser|
[03:54] <ubotu> NewUser|: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:54] <scarnia> hi anyone has been suceed recompilin kernel with an 965P board?
[03:55] <jrib> Vilhelms: ok that didn't help.  Here is my thinking atm: I don't use xfce so I can't check on how gdm starts it.  But I am assuming that startxfce4 is working properly and that is not the right way for gdm to start xfce when X is already running.  So something for your user is doing it.  I would grep for 'startxfce4' in your files.  Also check that the testuser is using the same selection in gdm for XFCE.
[03:55] <pc05b> wait felixruina
[03:55] <Shaba1> kenthomson that is not what I asked. Ubuntu is not a "document"
[03:55] <kenthomson> Shaba1, I answer what i feel i want to, i am not your slave
[03:55] <rm_you> :P
[03:55] <|NewUser|> kenthomson: i have 3 OS in system.. now GRUB not showing any one 0f OS .. how can i change my GRUB setting?
[03:55] <loca|host> wich utility do you use to compress in rar or zip archive format ?
[03:55] <Vilhelms> jrib, Okay :\ I'll try... Thanks for the help! :)
[03:55] <needhlp> sudo rm -rf Musikkvidioa/ -R
[03:55] <needhlp> rm: cannot remove directory `Musikkvidioa/': Operation not permitted
[03:55] <Shaba1> then if you cannot give a good answer why just answer stupidly
[03:56] <kenthomson> !grub | |NewUser|
[03:56] <ubotu> |NewUser|: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:56] <soweto76> Vilhelms, see /etc/xdg
[03:56] <jrib> kenthomson: more than likely your sources.list are broken
[03:56] <kenthomson> needhlp, maybe you are trying to remove a from a cd
[03:56] <Shaba1> Every here it better to be thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt
[03:56] <jrib> kenthomson: or you've installed outside pacakges somehow
[03:56] <kenthomson> jrib, I don't think so, is there a way to confirm it?
[03:56] <needhlp> hehe. it is not a cdrom. i can ensure you
[03:56] <kylequamme> kenthomson: hmmm interesting, haven't really had a problem with vlc yer
[03:56] <kenthomson> jrib, i have installed outside packages
[03:56] <kylequamme> kenthomson: hmmm interesting, haven't really had a problem with vlc yet*
[03:56] <omeil> Anyone know where our JAVA execution file is located?
[03:56] <kenthomson> kylequamme, i get it everyday
[03:57] <kenthomson> omeil, /usr/lib/jvm/<java_version>/bin/
[03:57] <kenthomson> omeil, /usr/lib/jvm/<java_version>/bin/java
[03:57] <stickyicky> http://www.starbucks.com/ourcoffees/coffee_break.asp?
[03:57] <jrib> kenthomson: pastebin your sources.list and a list of what packages you installed manually
[03:57] <kenthomson> jrib, alright!
[03:57] <fnf> I've seen screenshots of GNOME notification messages with nice thumbnails, not just ordinary tooltips, but my system just shows the normal tooltips. Does anyone have the same issue ?
[03:57] <psygrass> billy: i tried now to run search for updates and i got the same message.
[03:58] <Cave`> can I integrate my sudo password in a launcher commands?
[03:58] <felixruina> pc05b:  just holler when you need me :)
[03:58] <jrib> Cave`: use gksudo
[03:58] <kylequamme> peace otu
[03:58] <Cave`> roger:)
[03:58] <kylequamme> peace out
[03:58] <fnf> The notifications of Rhythmbox in particular, they're just normal tooltips.
[03:58] <Vilhelms> Is it safe to upgrade to gnome 2.18?
[03:58] <psygrass> billy: when i try to (show updates) the update manager shows up then goes off...... but the icon still in the systray
[03:58] <simon> Hey. When I am updating my ubuntu do I have to do sth after downloading all packeges . Do I have install them or it will be done automatic ??
[03:58] <jrib> fnf: did you enable the album art plugin?  I'm not sure what version of rhythmbox that was included in
[03:59] <I3ooI3oo> sorry bayriders : I don't have any good advice,
[03:59] <billy> psygrass:  well darn.  I've got a repository for Google Earth, but I'm not sure that'll solve your problem.
[03:59] <mbac> does ubuntu have a borg-style voice-synthesizer?
[03:59] <psygrass> ok
[03:59] <jrib> Vilhelms: no, but it might be ok to install it in a different place if you know what you are doing
[03:59] <mbac> you know, so you can make something say "we are the borg. resistance is futile. muffins for breakfast tomorrow" and it'll speak it just like the borg?
[03:59] <soweto76> Vilhelms, I think gdm starts xfce with /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc
[03:59] <rm_you> mbac: omg I NEED that now :P
[03:59] <scarnia> Has anyone sucessfully compiled a kernel with support for jmicron chipset present in 965p boards?
[03:59] <mbac> it can't be that hard, it's probably just like 100 voice synthesizers all playing at once
[03:59] <rm_you> Someone should get on that :P
[04:00] <jrib> fnf: "Cover Art" seems to be the exact plugin name
[04:00] <Vilhelms> soweto76, no it uses startxfce4
[04:00] <kenthomson> jrib, In day to day operations there is nothing wrong with my system, I can update all packages, run synaptic, aptitude apt-get, and do everything. the command "sudo apt-get -f install" to tell me everything is OK. It is onyl aptitude -f install, that is screwing things up!
[04:00] <fnf> jrib: yes, and its tooltips show the song's picture too. But the tooltip is just, well, old rectangle, not one looks like a cartoon dialog.
[04:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Mmmmmm... muffins....
[04:00] <rm_you> just make a new voice plugin for festival "borg" :P
[04:00] <jrib> fnf: oh, I'm not sure I understand.  Did you link to the picture you saw?
[04:00] <kenthomson> jrib, my sources.list is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10486/
[04:00] <billy> psygrass:  the best I can recommend is to go to ubuntuforums.org and start a thread.  Someone there will be able to help you.  Just remember to take deep breaths regularly. :)
[04:00] <jrib> kenthomson: aptitude probably worries about recommended packages too
[04:00] <fnf> jrib: sure, http://www.gnome.org/start/2.18/notes/en/
[04:01] <jrib> kenthomson: I ignore aptitude when it tells me packages are broken...
[04:01] <ardchoille> jrib: It does by default but you can disable that option
[04:01] <fnf> jrib: you may see the tooltip "Another user is viewing your desktop" is pretty.
[04:01] <omeil> is there any small app i can test my java on?
[04:01] <psygrass> billy: lol... ok. thanx a lot.
[04:01] <jrib> kenthomson: (I listen to apt-get) though
[04:01] <kenthomson> jrib, i manually installed packages like azureus (from jar) wengophone audacious, and other inconsequential stuff
[04:01] <billy> psygrass:  no prob.  wish I could have been a better help.  At least I did no harm.
[04:01] <pipe> irc.freenode.net
[04:01] <wtigerguy> totem is not working it says it needs necessary plugins
[04:01] <psygrass> billy: is there a way to back things up... just in case somethings goes wrong.. like this?
[04:01] <fnf> jrib: But mine is normal tooltip, not sure whether I disabled something. I tested it in a new Feisty system in vmware, still the same.
[04:02] <pipe> hi all
[04:02] <I3ooI3oo> www.time.gov
[04:02] <I3ooI3oo> have clock there
[04:02] <kenthomson> jrib, i want the command sudo aptitude -f install to go give cleam output, this is what it gives to me, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10483/, What do you suggest i do?
[04:02] <pantico> hi all
[04:02] <kenthomson> !hi | pantico
[04:02] <ubotu> pantico: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:02] <billy> psygrass: not of this nature, I don't think.  the closest thing would be a "system restore", which I don't know if ubuntu does.
[04:02] <jrib> fnf: well that's gnome 2.18, it may be why.  It also might be themeable now, I'm not sure
[04:02] <kenthomson> fnf, if a tooltip woories you so much; what about the candy-wrapper on the pavement? ;-)
[04:03] <fnf> jrib: are you using GNOME overthere ?
[04:03] <soweto76> Vilhelms, yes but startxfce4 calls /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc unless you have a custom one in .config/xfec4
[04:03] <psygrass> billy: thanx. i will try to look for it.
[04:03] <jrib> fnf: yes, by notifications are yellow rectangles
[04:03] <fnf> kenthomson: 'course not, I'm mainly a console user :) just curious
[04:03] <wtigerguy> i need help
[04:03] <kenthomson> fnf, alright! than
[04:03] <fnf> jrib: thanks.
[04:03] <billy> wtigerguy:  what plugins do you need?
[04:03] <kenthomson> jrib, so?
[04:03] <jrib> kenthomson: pressing enter will give you clean output, and then I imagine you will be missing things you want
[04:03] <Vilhelms> soweto76, Yeah it seems to do so
[04:04] <kenthomson> fnf, i too aspire one day to become a complete console user!
[04:04] <wtigerguy> i don't know i am trying to play dvd's
[04:04] <kenthomson> jrib, thats what i guesses i thought i would meet someone with deeper insight into this problem ;-)
[04:04] <Stonekeeper> anyone know how to setup fake raid from the dapper server CD? IE a way of installing dmraid from the installer?
[04:04] <kenthomson> jrib, what do you suggest
[04:04] <pipe> someone got Compiz?
[04:04] <kenthomson> !raid | Stonekeeper
[04:04] <ubotu> Stonekeeper: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:04] <kenthomson> pipe /join #compiz
[04:04] <fnf> kenthomson: yeah, it's real fun and efficient that way. Web browsing is the only thing that keeps me from shutting X though
[04:05] <kenthomson> fnf, you have w3m
[04:05] <billy> wtigerguy:  do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled in Synaptic Package Manager?
[04:05] <rausb0> kenthomson: w3m rocks
[04:05] <pipe> ok thnx
[04:05] <pipe> :P
[04:05] <kenthomson> fnf, w3m and elinks allow extremely effecient web-browsing in text-mode
[04:05] <kenthomson> rauble, sure as hell!
[04:05] <fnf> kenthomson: no images for you there though, I used links with framebuffer but that doesn't work with all sites.
[04:05] <wtigerguy> i don't know how i am new to this
[04:05] <Roadrunner1985> hello can somebody tell me how to activate 5.1 audio in ubuntu 5.10?
[04:06] <kenthomson> fnf, but graphics = X. So you can't want expect to watch movies, play-games at the CLI ;-0
[04:06] <CaptainMorgan> I don't see pid's for users... is there a way to kick someone from a server if they've already connected?
[04:06] <I3ooI3oo> roadruner 5.10 ot 6.10 ?
[04:06] <CaptainMorgan> via ftp, or sshd?
[04:06] <kenthomson> CaptainMorgan, ask in #help
[04:06] <pipe> how can i install a file.patch?
[04:06] <Roadrunner1985> ah sorry. 6.10
[04:06] <billy> wtigerguy:  no worries.  In the top panel, click on System, then Administration, then Synaptic Package Manager.  Let me know when you have it opened.
[04:06] <kenthomson> pipe, patch file-old file-new
[04:06] <sidny4> when I run aMSN it quickly minimizes to the tray and I can't access it. In the terminal it leaves: attempt to provide package tls 1.5 failed: tls 1.50 provided instead
[04:06] <fnf> kenthomson: not quite ;) except gaming, which I love nethack, I can watch movies with mplayer.
[04:06] <kenthomson> pipe, sudo it
[04:06] <sidny4> any idea how to fix that?
[04:07] <kenthomson> fnf, at the CLI?
[04:07] <pipe> ok
[04:07] <jrib> pipe: you don't install them, you use patch.  patch -p N < file.patch   see 'man patch' for an explanation of the -p thing
[04:07] <CaptainMorgan> kenthomson,  I don't understand.. this concerns ubuntu
[04:07] <kenthomson> jrib, so?
[04:07] <fnf> kenthomson: yeah, mplayer and links use the framebuffer to display high-res/high color depth at the console.
[04:07] <Roadrunner1985> I3ooI3oo, it is ubuntu 6.10
[04:07] <kenthomson> fnf, didn't know that
[04:08] <fnf> kenthomson: you may get at max 1024x768x24 with the vesafb.
[04:08] <I3ooI3oo> i saw that... looking
[04:08] <Roadrunner1985> okay
[04:08] <kenthomson> fnf, what are the packages i need to do that
[04:08] <jrib> kenthomson: ignore it really, or look into each line and find out what it says you need and why you can't have it etc.
[04:08] <wtigerguy> ok
[04:08] <kenthomson> jrib, ok
[04:08] <sidny4> is there a way to update TLS? I get the error: attempt to provide package tls 1.5 failed: package tls 1.50 provided instead
[04:08] <fnf> kenthomson: you just need to enable the framebuffer, vesafb is the most reliable, which can be enabled by passing vga=xxx as a kernel param
[04:08] <billy> wtigerguy:  be sure to prefix responses with my name, billy.  Click on "Settings", then "Repositories."
[04:09] <Andy___> I have an ATi Radeon Mobility 9200. They dont even have drivers at the site and when i installed the closest version, X wouldnt start
[04:09] <coeus> I am intaling ubuntu on my mac and i was wondering will my airport card work with ubuntu?
[04:09] <busfahrer> Excuse me, is Beryl 0.2.0 in the repository yet?
[04:09] <billy> busfahrer:  i think so.  I updated this morning.
[04:09] <Roadrunner1985> !dma
[04:09] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[04:09] <fnf> kenthomson: with mplayer, man or Google for "mplayer" "framebuffer"
[04:09] <billy> wtigerguy:  be sure that all of the repositories have a check mark beside them.
[04:09] <Andy___> So i am just asking how to install ati mob radeon 9200 drivers on ubuntu, if possible
[04:09] <|NewUser|> if i have no Floppy Drive then how can i reinstall my GRUB? i have just ISO burned Ubuntu-Desktop DIsk
[04:10] <jrib> busfahrer: beryl is not in ubuntu repositories
[04:10] <EnsignRedshirt> kenthomson: Have you mixed using aptitude with apt-get or some other apt program?  I don't know the details, but I have heard that once you start using aptitude, you should always use aptitude.
[04:10] <xlsty> hi
[04:10] <wtigerguy> ok mi got it
[04:10] <Andy___> Anyone going to answer?
[04:10] <billy> |NewUser| : use a super grub disc.  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot/Super-Grub-Disk-8071.shtml
[04:10] <fnf> !hi | xlsty
[04:10] <ubotu> xlsty: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:10] <dms--> does anyone have php/mysql up and running, and did you make the march 8th php updates? im nervous the updates will somehow break my little webserv. ;)
[04:11] <billy> wtigerguy:  OK.  Close Synaptic and open a terminal.  Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[04:11] <kenthomson> HELP; Here is the output of "sudo aptitude -f install" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10483/, my sources.list is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10486/. Aptitude wants to remove seemingly working packages ( i use them everyday) like abiword, gfxboot, audacious, beryl, amarok. Other than the output i get my system is perfectly stable i can install all packages using apt-get and aptitude perfectly fine moreover apt-get -f install to gives a clean output. p
[04:11] <kenthomson> lease help
[04:11] <|NewUser|> billy: i have 3 OS in my System.. its Nothing problem? the Super Grub Set i up again?
[04:11] <kenthomson> EnsignRedshirt, i have mixed tham, first i used apt-get and when i want to install something for my <whoever> i use aptitude ;-)
[04:11] <wtigerguy> ok reddy
[04:12] <billy> |NewUser|: having 3 operating systems ought not be a problem.  the supergrub disc can fix your MBR automatically, or you can use it to boot into any of your OS's.
[04:12] <kenthomson> fnf, i'll look it up
[04:12] <Andy___> How do i change my screen res to 1280x800? Its not in the settings
[04:12] <fnf> kenthomson: have you done "apt-get update" ? It sounds like the package DB was messed up
[04:12] <jrib> !fixres  | Andy___
[04:12] <ubotu> Andy___: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:13] <kenthomson> fnf, that works perfectly fine and my whole system is perfectly fine, it is just that "sudo aptitude -f install" that is driving me nuts
[04:13] <|NewUser|> billy: I just want to fix my GRUB .. well now having a problem " GRUB loading stage1.5.,  GRUB loading. Please wait... "Error 17"
[04:13] <Andy___> Thanks, now how do i get proper ATI drivers or this isnt necesary?
[04:13] <billy> wtigerguy:  copy/paste this into the terminal `sudo wget http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss2.9-1_i386.deb`.
[04:14] <kenthomson> !ati | Andy___
[04:14] <ubotu> Andy___: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:14] <rizhun> Can anyone help me with a problem with Xinerama (or point me in the right direction)?
[04:14] <Andy___> Thanks
[04:14] <kenthomson> Andy___, they are necessary if you want 3d-acceleration (games/astronomy-programs/etc)
[04:14] <jrib> !xinerama | rizhun
[04:14] <ubotu> rizhun: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:14] <kenthomson> Andy___, i recommend installing it
[04:14] <Andy___> ok thanks, im reading the page you sent
[04:14] <billy> |NewUser| : download the disc I linked to.
[04:14] <kenthomson> fnf, what ya suggest
[04:15] <billy> wtigerguy:  everything come back OK?
[04:15] <kenthomson> billy, could you hell me?
[04:15] <fnf> kenthomson: in which case I'd backup the package cache, /etc and reinstall the system
[04:15] <|NewUser|> billy ok.. then burn it to CD? then boot from that disc?
[04:15] <wtigerguy> it says 404 error not found
[04:15] <billy> correct
[04:15] <fnf> kenthomson: if it's fixed, it's not guaranteed to be broken someday anyway.
[04:15] <firedog> i am having trouble getting beryl working. its in synaptic for me to install and the command line says that deb is not found as a command
[04:15] <rizhun> jrib - I've done that and set it up. Everything loads normally except I can't actually see whats on the second monitor.  Anything that opens on it, I have to right click on and 'Move' to the working display.
[04:15] <kenthomson> fnf, could you be a little more detailed, i am a newbie. iwhat is backing up cache
[04:15] <billy> wtigerguy:  you copy/pasted that into a terminal right?
[04:15] <wtigerguy> yes
[04:15] <kenthomson> fnf, did you meant if its NOT fixed..?
[04:15] <coeus> will an air port exterme card work with edgy?
[04:16] <php-freak> any one know of palces where I can support open source software, and they show my link on there site showing my company supported them?
[04:16] <kenthomson> !hardware | coeus
[04:16] <ubotu> coeus: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:16] <EnsignRedshirt> firedog: "deb" is not a command.  What did you try to do?
[04:16] <coeus> thanks
[04:16] <thee3> my login screen is scrolling. how do i fix that?
[04:16] <fnf> kenthomson: assuming you've downloaded a lot, upon reinstalling you don't want to download hundreds of MBs again, just backup the cache and reinstall.
[04:16] <fnf> kenthomson: ah, sure.
[04:16] <billy> wtigerguy:  sorry.  here it is.  `sudo wget http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb`.
[04:16] <tehxed> Can anyone help with a Beryl related issue?
[04:16] <kenthomson> php-freak, all open-source programs need donators they may proudly display your company name
[04:16] <jrib> tehxed: try #ubuntu-effects
[04:17] <tehxed> jrib: Ehh.. I am about to.
[04:17] <Vilhelms> I'm having problems with alsa. Like, half the time I boot it won't work, and whenever I try to play anything I get 'device is busy' so I have to restart. Does anyone know why or how I could fix it? I'm getting really tired of this problem :(
[04:17] <kenthomson> fnf, how does one backup the cache. THis is a heavily modified ubuntu system, and i spent countless hours manually compiling and installing packages. You are asking me to take up a big ordeal,
[04:17] <firedog> ensignredshirt, i am looking at a wiki on Beryl... and it says that the repositories could be installed from synaptic, which doesnt have beryl listed, or through command line
[04:17] <fnf> kenthomson: the whole system config lies in /etc, your data should be in a separate /home already. So there's no hesitate to reinstall
[04:17] <fnf> kenthomson: it's in /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:17] <firedog> ensignredshirt, the command it says to add is deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[04:17] <kenthomson> fnf, right! and where are my manually installed progs?
[04:18] <EnsignRedshirt> firedog: That is not a command. That is a line to be added to sources.list.
[04:18] <billy> wtigerguy:  did that one come back OK?
[04:18] <fnf> kenthomson: I take it that you kept the deb packages ?.
[04:18] <Andy___> The things only support installs for 9500 and above, i have ati mob radeon 9200, i just have to configure x or do i have to install something?
[04:18] <coeus> kenthomson I dont see airport extreme listen any where
[04:18] <kenthomson> fnf, so you mean to say i backup /home /etc and /var/cache/apt/archives, and than re-install
[04:18] <php-freak> kenthomson: do you know where I can get a list of open source software companies that I can support that will show my link to my company showing that I supporeted them?
[04:18] <fnf> kenthomson: or you installed with 'make install' only ?
[04:18] <firedog> ensignredshirt, OHH, i guess i would add that using a txt editor?
[04:18] <kenthomson> fnf, they didn't have the .debs, only tar.gz, which needed to be ./configure && make
[04:19] <kenthomson> fnf, moreover checkinstall normally doesn't work for me and complains a lot
[04:19] <fnf> kenthomson: yup, and the customized data is intact, installing is faster  easier
[04:19] <kenthomson> coeus, sorry no idea
[04:19] <wtigerguy> no
[04:19] <Andy___> The things only support installs for 9500 and above, i have ati mob radeon 9200, i just have to configure x or do i have to install something?
[04:19] <kenthomson> php-freak, sorry i don't have a link
[04:19] <nikolaos> Is there any way to get VPN working (easily?) with ndiswrapper?
[04:19] <fnf> kenthomson: checkinstall 1.6.0 should work fine, what's your Ubuntu version ?
[04:19] <EnsignRedshirt> firedog: If the wiki that you are using doesn't explain it, then it may be a bad wiki (at least for someone with your experience).
[04:19] <kenthomson> php-freak, but you can go to gnu.org, and maybe they have a link like top-donators. And try bigwig OS-apps like GIMP, Amarok, GNOME, etc
[04:20] <Vilhelms> I'm having problems with alsa. Like, half the time I boot it won't work, and whenever I try to play anything I get 'device is busy' so I have to restart. Does anyone know why or how I could fix it? I'm getting really tired of this problem :(
[04:20] <kenthomson> fnf, 6.10
[04:20] <kenthomson> fnf, do you think my sources.list is causing all this problems?
[04:20] <wtigerguy> it is not working
[04:20] <firedog> ensignredshirt, i clearly am not that experienced, im just trying to get the 3D effect provided by Beryl to work, and at the same time learn new thing
[04:20] <|NewUser|> billy: can i use USB to boot sUper GRUB?
[04:20] <fnf> kenthomson: by installing with 'make install', you risked having a broken system anyway. the install script can do whatever it pleases, and it's not surprising that it may touch one of the files apt is controlling.
[04:21] <wtigerguy> that is werd
[04:21] <bullgard4> !mc | bullgard4
[04:21] <fnf> kenthomson: I'll have a look.
[04:21] <billy> |NewUser|:  never tried it.  seems feasible though.
[04:21] <kenthomson> fnf, what about me telling aptitude to "yes" and work its magic, if you are fairly experienced than from the output of aptitude -f install you could spot the possible hazards if i told it yes
[04:21] <kenthomson> fnf, but if i did checkinstall package, it complained like HELL. i wanted to get the package(s) installed, so there was no other but to use 'make'. WHat do you say i do in such a scenario than?
[04:22] <fnf> kenthomson: I have limited experience with aptitude misbehaving, since I usually take it very carefully upon installing new software.
[04:22] <|NewUser|> billy: there is a Problem. that.. i m using another PC.. this one d0nt have writer :< how can i burn super grub with writer.. damn my laptop have writer but .. the laptop not going start coz 0f grub.
[04:22] <EnsignRedshirt> firedog: Cool, just be careful--you can really muck up your system.  I haven't tried beryl, so I can't help you with that.
[04:22] <pipe> mmmm
[04:22] <fnf> kenthomson: what are those that weren't working with checkinstall ?
[04:22] <kenthomson> fnf, don't remember now., but pretty much 99/100 packages don't work with checkinstall
[04:23] <Andy___> I am going to reboot into ubuntu, BRB
[04:23] <kenthomson> fnf, personal experience
[04:23] <firedog> ensignredshirt, ya, ive heard that if this goes wrong, bad thigns happen, but im ok with that, im still on a fresh install
[04:23] <billy> wtigerguy: sudo apt-get install libdvdnav4 libdvdplay0 libdvdread3
[04:23] <khally> my cpu is at 3% but my box is going really slow and my load average is huge!!   how do i find out what's going on???
[04:23] <kenthomson> fnf,  what about me telling aptitude to "yes" and work its magic, if you are fairly experienced than from the output of aptitude -f install you could spot the possible hazards if i told it yes
[04:23] <pipe> hem... i'm just a newbie :P and i don't know what mean that number i have to insert in patch -p N ...
[04:23] <jrib> pipe: what are you trying to do?
[04:24] <wtigerguy> that worked
[04:24] <fnf> kenthomson: the sources.lst looks normal, can you comment the custom repos to see if it works ?
[04:24] <billy> wtigerguy:  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[04:24] <kenthomson> billy, could you please look at my problem?
[04:24] <omeil> Can someone here test something for me?
[04:24] <Vilhelms> I'm having problems with alsa. Like, half the time I boot it won't work, and whenever I try to play anything I get 'device is busy' so I have to restart. Does anyone know why or how I could fix it? I'm getting really tired of this problem :(
[04:24] <kenthomson> fnf, let me do that
[04:25] <kenthomson> fnf, you should understand that there are no-signs of a broken system except the command aptitude -f install complaining
[04:25] <jrib> !someone | omeil
[04:25] <ubotu> omeil: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:25] <pipe> sry, its for compiz (in that channel don't answer me, so i ask to you)... is a patch for compiz, there was a crash in compiz.real at first boot... i found this patch  but ... XD
[04:25] <billy> wtigerguy: if that one comes back error, do this one > sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[04:25] <fnf> kenthomson: I see, did it happen just recently ?
[04:25] <wtigerguy> it says command not found
[04:25] <jrib> pipe: are you supposed to patch source code?
[04:25] <billy> kenthomson:  sorry.  what were you trying to do again?
[04:25] <pipe> i think yes
[04:25] <grantgm> Vilhelms: what soundcard do you have?
[04:25] <jrib> pipe: have you built compiz from source before?
[04:25] <fnf> kenthomson: after commenting them, apt-get update once more.
[04:25] <billy> wtigerguy:  the second one came back error?
[04:26] <pipe> no, just installed
[04:26] <Vilhelms> grantgm, IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller
[04:26] <jrib> pipe: have you ever built anything from source?
[04:26] <kenthomson> billy, HELP; Here is the output of "sudo aptitude -f install" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10483/, my sources.list is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10486/. Aptitude wants to remove seemingly working packages ( i use them everyday) like abiword, gfxboot, audacious, beryl, amarok. Other than the output i get my system is perfectly stable i can install all packages using apt-get and aptitude perfectly fine moreover apt-get -f install to gives a clean ou
[04:26] <kenthomson> tput. please help
[04:26] <pipe> yes
[04:26] <wtigerguy> the second one worked
[04:26] <kenthomson> fnf, ok let's see
[04:27] <fnf> kenthomson: the package DB may also be messed up if there're different versions of the same package lie in multiple repos.
[04:27] <billy> wtigerguy:  yeah, there's a difference in the directories.  do this now > sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:27] <fnf> kenthomson: in which case, you may try moving /var/lib/apt/* (not all of them, keep the keys).
[04:27] <mozul> I tried to install 6.10 last night on a new system with one HD on IDE and another pair of HD's set up on a hardware raid card as a mirror.  The BIOS sees the raid array as a disk.  however on my alternate install cd I only got the opportunity to format/partition the IDE-HD.  Wasn't I supposed to be able to format/partition the raid mirror as well?
[04:27] <firedog> how do i get the correct permissions to modify sources.list
[04:28] <billy> kenthomson:  I don't know about that my friend.  limited experience there.
[04:28] <Seveas> !sudo | firedog
[04:28] <ubotu> firedog: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:28] <fnf> firedog: chown to your user, not recommened though
[04:28] <jrib> pipe: if it only patches a single file you can just go to the difrectory that contains the file and do 'patch < file.patch'.  Otherwise you need to specify -p N  where N is the number of '/' to strip from the beginning of the paths in the patch.  For example -p1 will change /foo/bar to foo/bar.  'man patch' explains this in detail
[04:28] <billy> firedog:  in terminal > sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:28] <Seveas> fnf, that's a very stupid idea
[04:28] <firedog> billy, thanks
[04:28] <kenthomson> fnf, I am sure i have multiple versions of same packages in all those repos
[04:28] <wtigerguy> ok that worked
[04:28] <billy> firedog: no problem.
[04:28] <Seveas> firedog, don't do what fnf sayd...
[04:29] <billy> wtigerguy:  you should be able to watch DVD's now.
[04:29] <fnf> Seveas: yeah, and I said /not/ recommended, or you're saying about my previous line ?
[04:29] <pipe> ok man thnx ;)... lets try
[04:29] <kenthomson> fnf, uncommented sources.list, apt-get update and than aptitude -f install is giving the same output as before, it didn't help
[04:29] <jrib> kenthomson: there is nothing wrong with your system..  aptitude is just being stupid.  You are wasting your time
[04:29] <eshaase> i'm using firefox 2.0.0.2 and I've noticed that firefox uses *alot* of CPU and lags alot for lots of sites (javascript?), any suggestions?
[04:29] <firedog> seveas, i dont even know what he said
[04:29] <fnf> kenthomson: let me check the /var/lib/apt again for files that are safe to remove.
[04:29] <grantgm> Vilhelms: do you have flash installed?
[04:29] <kenthomson> jrib, i too would like to think that
[04:29] <firedog> billy, whats the default root pass?
[04:29] <Vilhelms> grantgm, Yes
[04:29] <Seveas> firedog, good :)
[04:29] <Seveas> firedog, sudo wants your own pass
[04:29] <wtigerguy> ok thanks is there a link that i can got and save all that
[04:30] <omha> firedog, you passwor
[04:30] <omha> d
[04:30] <billy> firedog:  you in a LiveCD?
[04:30] <Seveas> !sudo | firedog, see here for all info about sudo
[04:30] <ubotu> firedog, see here for all info about sudo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:30] <grantgm> have you upgraded to flash 9?
[04:30] <kenthomson> fnf, lists(folder), periodic(folder), extended_states(file), these three are there in /var/lib/apt
[04:30] <kenthomson> Seveas, may i ask you a question?
[04:30] <Seveas> kenthomson, you are already doing so :)
[04:31] <grantgm> i found that helped (although didn't totally solve) my sound problems
[04:31] <kenthomson> Seveas, but the following one is bigger so i asked, anyways...
[04:31] <kenthomson> Seveas, Seveas, HELP; Here is the output of "sudo aptitude -f install" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10483/, my sources.list is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10486/. Aptitude wants to remove seemingly working packages ( i use them everyday) like abiword, gfxboot, audacious, beryl, amarok. Other than the output i get my system is perfectly stable i can install all packages using apt-get and aptitude perfectly fine moreover apt-get -f install to gives a
[04:31] <kenthomson>  clean output. please help
[04:31] <hang3r> "sudo apt-get --reinstall --purge install update-manager update-notifier" will reinstall all traces of update-manager and update-notifier including configuration correct?
[04:31] <Seveas> kenthomson, try apt-get instad of aptitude
[04:31] <jolger> hey... just a quick question: is there any way i can enable timestamps in xchat? x_x (totally new to xchat :P)
[04:32] <fnf> kenthomson: I lack the time to actually try it in a VM, but you may move the *Packages and *Sources in /var/lib/apt/lists away
[04:32] <kenthomson> jolger, Settings>preferences, select text-box and than, enable time-stamps
[04:32] <Seveas> kenthomson, this looks like you mixed dapper and edgy packages, or edgy and feisty ones
[04:32] <billy> eshaase:  lots of folks are having that problem.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=16283233  I don't know what the solution is though.
[04:32] <fnf> kenthomson: and update the system.
[04:33] <kenthomson> Seveas, apt-get -f install works perfeclty fine. there are no signs of broken system anywhere, but just this stubborn aptitude -f install complaining. apt-get -f install is clean too
[04:33] <AJIEX1> hi all
[04:33] <billy> !hi | AJIEX1
[04:33] <ubotu> AJIEX1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:33] <kenthomson> Seveas, no i ain't mixed the packages for any distro except edgy
[04:33] <Seveas> kenthomson, then don't use aptitude. It's pretty anal sometimes about wanting to remove things
[04:33] <jolger> ah... DOH... could have found out myself -_- just me not reading through the text again XD
[04:33] <AJIEX1> sombody use Berly ?
[04:33] <jolger> well thanks anyways...
[04:33] <billy> I do AJIEX1.
[04:33] <jolger> i had beryl...
[04:34] <jolger> but it slowed my system too much...
[04:34] <kenthomson> Seveas, you should however note that sudo aptitude install or remove package works perfectly fine
[04:34] <kenthomson> Seveas, i wanted to have a clean sudo aptitude 0f install so i asked
[04:34] <billy> AJIEX1:  Beryl gets upset when you call it berly though.  :(
[04:34] <kenthomson> fnf, you recommend me actually doing it?
[04:34] <AJIEX1> have you 1 second pause when you change tabs in firefox or gaim ?
[04:34] <grantgm> Vilhelms: try getting flash 9 from http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[04:34] <grantgm> download the tar.gz
[04:34] <Seveas> kenthomson, try aptitude install --reinstall [all the packages it wants to remove] 
[04:34] <Vilhelms> grantgm, okay
[04:34] <billy> AJIEX1:  no.  sometimes my firefox window spills over the screen a touch.  not always, but sometimes.
[04:35] <fnf> kenthomson: yup.
[04:35] <grantgm> give it a go and see how it works...its just that flash 7 was notoriously bad for screwing up the whole sound system
[04:35] <fnf> kenthomson: if it doesn't work, just move it back and things will get back to normal.
[04:35] <Vilhelms> grantgm, Do I need to restart after I do that?
[04:36] <AJIEX1> billy: hmm i use it and everething is good, but I have 1 second pause(may be 0,5 second) when a change tabs (firefox, gaim, opera ... )
[04:36] <fnf> kenthomson: it looks like aptitude DB is in a inconsistent state, so we try to update the whole DB again, without additional repositories.
[04:36] <grantgm> Vilhelms: you should just need to restart firefox...but if your sound isn't working at all right now, then you're best off just restarting the whole system
[04:37] <billy> AJIEX1:  remember that Beryl is still beta software.  I get little bugs like that sometimes.  With time, Beryl will fix it all.
[04:37] <grantgm> does anyone know how to restart sound without rebooting?
[04:37] <Administrador_> Hello all.....
[04:37] <billy> grantgm:  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[04:37] <AJIEX1> billy: what's your videocard ?
[04:37] <kenthomson> fnf, and how do i move all the *sources *packages away? is it "sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists*sources* /home/ken/backup && sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists*packages* /home/ken/backup
[04:37] <billy> AJIEX1:  Intel ICH7 family
[04:38] <AJIEX1> billy: I have Geforce 7600 gs
[04:38] <grantgm> billy: /etc/init.d/alsa: No such file or directory
[04:38] <cezeta> I need some help, Im installing ubuntu desktop 6.10 on a pavilion, and I get and error WHEN cd boot. The problematic mod its wlan...  hiy can I deactivate that to use the boot cd and install ubuntu?
[04:38] <kenthomson> fnf, and if i update aptitude again by commeting-out the additional repos, ain't we doing the same thing but in a more civilized manner? ;-)
[04:38] <AJIEX1> billy: you run on a notebook ?
[04:38] <kenthomson> cezeta, go to the BIOS and select boot-from-cd and first priority
[04:38] <fnf> kenthomson: "sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources /home/ken/backup" and "sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages /home/ken/backup"
[04:39] <ph8> eep - i've just installed apache2-mpm-event and i don't have apachectl! can anyone tell me which package contains it?
[04:39] <grantgm> billy: the only thing in there is alsa-utils, which doesn't seem to affect anything
[04:39] <billy> grantgm:  sorry.  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[04:39] <kenthomson> fnf, what about this;  if i update aptitude again by commeting-out the additional repos, ain't we doing the same thing but in a more civilized manner?
[04:39] <fnf> kenthomson: just a check, as I'd prefer a reinstall. I cannot afford a broken system
[04:39] <billy> grantgm:  you tried that and it didn't work?
[04:39] <cezeta> kenthomson: my problem is not that...  i know how to boot, but when ubuntu start booting from cd, try to setup the WLAN and CRASH . :(
[04:39] <fnf> kenthomson: not quite the same.
[04:40] <kenthomson> cezeta, you may need some additional parameters while booting ubuntu and not just start-liv-cd option or maybe the alternate install cd, sorry i can't help more
[04:40] <Smoke2k> any suggestions on garage band substitute for ubuntu?
[04:40] <kenthomson> fnf, alright let me do it than
[04:40] <Smoke2k> my brother is going to be disappointed i took garage band off computer
[04:40] <hang3r> The following apt-get "apt-get --reinstall --purge install update-manager update-notifier" will remove all configuration of update-manager and update-notifier and reinstall them both, is that correct? Someone answer ffs...
[04:40] <billy> Smoke2K : something like Jokosher?
[04:40] <grantgm> billy: i just did "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop", which succeeded, but i'm still playing a video with sound
[04:41] <billy> grantgm:  I keep forgetting that most Ubuntu'ers don't use alsa anymore.  Not sure what's used instead of alsa now.
[04:41] <kenthomson> grantgm, you may need to load-unload a certain module through modprobe or something, i don't know much
[04:41] <JohnPhys> billy:  why would they not use alsa?
[04:42] <cezeta> kenthomson: I know :(  pherhaps you can help me howto ask that
[04:42] <kenthomson> billy, first we had the OSS mixer and as of now all modern distros use Alsa instead
[04:42] <cezeta> becouse my englush sux ;(
[04:42] <kenthomson> cezeta, alright i will do it
[04:42] <cezeta> ;)
[04:42] <billy> JohnPhys:  that's what I was told.  I know that I have alsa.  kenthomson:  Oh.  Maybe one of you two could help grantgm then.  :)
[04:42] <hang3r> cezeta, "Sucks"
[04:43] <billy> grantgm:  is your mixer set to use alsa?
[04:43] <kenthomson> cezeta, you are booting a u.6.10, right? And what machine are you on?
[04:43] <cezeta> jejejej hang3r sorry, I not english speaker
[04:43] <cezeta> Yes, 6.10 destop
[04:43] <cezeta> desktop, sorry
[04:43] <kenthomson> cezeta, and what machine 32-bit processor?
[04:43] <kenthomson> cezeta, why is the w-lan automatically automatically switched on, can you manually disconnect it before booting?
[04:43] <cezeta> well, its a 64 bit, but I dont wankt 64, I using 32 bits only
[04:44] <grantgm> yea, i'm pretty sure that i am using alsa rather than oss
[04:44] <kenthomson> cezeta, ok what about the second question
[04:44] <Smoke2k> billy could you please help me here?
[04:44] <kenthomson> grantgm, all of us are
[04:44] <cezeta> I think, 6.10 see my WLAN and try to load the module but CRASH :(
[04:44] <billy> grantgm:  strange that sound would still be playing then.  I don't know man.
[04:44] <grantgm> np. thanks anyways
[04:44] <kenthomson> grantgm, you can check by selecting it in volume icon in the gnome-panel and than file>device>select it here
[04:45] <cezeta> No, its no switched on, its OFF, but ubuntu 6.10 detect and try to load module (w-lan is OFF)
[04:45] <billy> Smoke2k:  I'm not really familiar with Garage Band.  I just know that Jokosher is a multi-tracker.
[04:45] <grantgm> kenthomson: yea, that's what led me to believe that i'm using alsa...although changing that doesn't seem to have any effect
[04:45] <cezeta> how can I say the install program "not load wlan" :P
[04:45] <blanca30> ola
[04:46] <Cara_com_CAM> hi, can anyone tell me if ubuntu has got the "unichrome_dri.so" driver included in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri ?
[04:46] <freezey> to remove a dir and all of its subdirs etc thats rmdir
[04:46] <freezey> which option?
[04:46] <billy> freezey:  rmdir will remove full directories?
[04:46] <blanca30> ola
[04:46] <kenthomson> cezeta, what exactly happens when it crashes
[04:46] <blanca30> agregarlo
[04:46] <freezey> billy: na i wondering which option i have to use
[04:46] <cezeta> black screen and nothink happend
[04:46] <blanca30> blancan_taranchel@hotmail.com
[04:47] <freezey> does anybody know which option it is when your trying to rmdir to remove everything
[04:47] <billy> freezey: use rm -r to remove full directories.
[04:47] <freezey> ok
[04:47] <cezeta> (no console, nothink)
[04:47] <freezey> i was gonna use that
[04:47] <freezey> but i wasnt sure
[04:47] <billy> of course
[04:47] <predaeus> Cara_com_CAM, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10492/
[04:47] <fnf> !man | freezey
[04:47] <ubotu> freezey: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:47] <Crazytom> how do I edit grub to stop showing the splash screen permanently
[04:48] <cezeta> saing somethink about a firware not fount on module bcmxxx or something like that
[04:48] <fnf> Crazytorn: remove the 'splash' option at the kernel parameters line
[04:48] <Cara_com_CAM> predaeus: Thank you So Much! I'm installing Ubuntu RIGHT NOW...
[04:48] <kenthomson> cezeta, and thab, just blank screen-nothing or it re-boots?
[04:48] <kenthomson> cezeta, *than
[04:48] <cezeta> the problem, its that i have a broadcom whitOUT firmware, so ubuntu CANT loca the driver
[04:48] <cezeta> No, no reboot, stay there (on blask creen)
[04:49] <cezeta> (on black screen, sry)
[04:49] <CharlieChester> anyone know anything about streaming a webcam to the net?
[04:50] <kenthomson> HELP; I am trying to boot a ubuntu 6.10 live cd-32bit, on my 64-bit computer. When i select boot-from-cd, it starts loading all the modules, but when it wants to load wlan (please note that i have manually switched wlan off), it tries it and than crashes. it tells me something like: "firmware not found in module bcmxxx". And than a blank screen-nothing. Please help me get past this annoying startuo-issue. PLease direct all your answers to "cezeta" as
[04:50] <kenthomson>  it is his problem and i just helped him frame it better
[04:51] <cezeta> Ufff, thanks dude, really thanks :P
[04:51] <kenthomson> cezeta, i really think you are better off searching at ubuntuforums.org, about keywords like "wlan crashes cd" and "module bcm"
[04:51] <cezeta> yes, i will copy you question and will post there...  THANKS YOU A LOT :)
[04:52] <I3ooI3oo> kenthomson is there a reason you aren't using the 64bit version ?
[04:52] <matthew_> when feisty comes out, what is the best way to upgrade from 6.10 to feisty?
[04:52] <kenthomson> I3ooI3oo, this question is of "cezeta" please direct your questions to him, i just framed the question
[04:52] <kenthomson> cezeta, I3ooI3oo says "Why don't you use 64-bit ubuntu"?
[04:53] <VXWorks> hi all... I'm trying to install kismet, but when I run ./configure it says there is no libncurses! but libncurses5 is installed! Please anyone help me
[04:53] <billy> matthew_, replace "edgy" with "feisty" in your sources.list, `sudo apt-get dis-upgrade` and HOPE FOR THE BEST!!
[04:53] <cezeta> I3ooI3oo: just becouse some peole say that thers not enougth software for 64 (and its a laptop)
[04:53] <kenthomson> cezeta, a probably answer would be, most of the apps are not 64-bit and it is a lot harder to setup java, shockwave and flash on a 64-bit.
[04:53] <billy> *dist-upgrade, that is.
[04:53] <VXWorks> hi all... I'm trying to install kismet, but when I run ./configure it says there is no libncurses! but libncurses5 is installed! Please anyone help me
[04:53] <cezeta> so, i dont care about 64 bits.
[04:54] <kenthomson> cezeta, have you tried about switching wlan-ON and than booting it up?
[04:54] <matthew_> billy: what about using the GUI upgrade tool that ubuntu has? Or is apt-get still the best way?
[04:54] <kenthomson> cezeta, what make is your wlan-card? Company-model-name?
[04:54] <I3ooI3oo> while i can see your point about the software i would pose the question what do you plan on doing ? not what did everyone else say
[04:54] <cezeta> Its a broadcom
[04:55] <billy> matthew_ : hmm... I've heard good things about the GUI.  Myself, I'm going to wait to make sure there aren't horror stories before attempting it.
[04:55] <cezeta> came with a pavilion dv6000 series
[04:55] <cezeta> i dont know the exacly model....   (i cant even boot linux)
[04:56] <cezeta> i just whant to startup without the bcmxxx  module
[04:56] <matthew_> billy: thats what I thought, I might even run feisty in vmware for a while just to let them get the major bugs out
[04:56] <cezeta> how can I do that on "other boot options"=
[04:56] <cezeta> =
[04:56] <financier> can i get any help here
[04:56] <CharlieChester> anyone know anything about streaming video from a webcam to the net?
[04:56] <billy> financier:  sure we can help.  what's up?
[04:57] <Crazytom> how do I edit grub to stop showing the splash screen permanently
[04:57] <ikonia_> Crazytom nosplash
[04:57] <billy> matthew_ : well, they've been working on it a while.  I had Feisty on my laptop, Sony Vaio, and it worked fine.  When they release it, it should be fairly stable.  Expect frequent updates though.
[04:57] <cezeta> kenthomson: what do you think about the diferences installing 6.06 a. 6.10 on my laptop?
[04:57] <Crazytom> ikonia, what?
[04:58] <LightCatcher> Does it normally take forever to add a GPG key?
[04:58] <VXWorks> hi all... I'm trying to install kismet, but when I run ./configure it says there is no libncurses! but libncurses5 is installed! Please anyone help me
[04:58] <ikonia_> billy / matthew_ fesity support is in #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-offtopic maybe a better place for discussion
[04:58] <cezeta> becouse, the 6.06 i can install it whithout prpblems
[04:58] <billy> LightCatcher: sometimes it takes me a while.
[04:58] <matthew_> CharlieChester: do you listen to The Linux Link Tech Show?
[04:58] <ikonia_> Crazytom the boot option is "nosplash"
[04:58] <CharlieChester> matthew_: I have never heard of it.
[04:58] <Crazytom> ikonia, will that permanently disable it?
[04:58] <ikonia_> Crazytom yes
[04:58] <Crazytom> thanks
[04:58] <billy> Crazytom:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst.  put nosplash on the end of the kernel line that you don't want the splash for.
[04:59] <matthew_> CharlieChester: go to tllts.org and download the latest show (lastnight) they talked about a project for webcams
[04:59] <pc25b_> fr
[04:59] <financier> my x-window cannot start. error is No devices detected. here is the story. i install ubuntu with my old agp videocard. i upgrade my system to pci-e video. when i view the detail error log,it seems x-window is still using the agp video card.
[04:59] <billy> Crazytom:  oh sorry;  ikonia_ already helped you.  ikonia_ knows better than I.
[04:59] <ardchoille> billy: You can just remove the word "splash" for the same effect
[04:59] <ikonia_> financier if you have changed the motherboard/video card you'd be better doing a fresh install
[04:59] <matthew_> CharlieChester: I can't remember the project name
[04:59] <omeil> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[04:59] <billy> ardchoille:  cool.  learn something new everyday.  :)
[04:59] <omeil>   Major opcode:  147
[04:59] <omeil>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:59] <omeil>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:59] <omeil> Failed to open device
[04:59] <omeil>  ?
[04:59] <pc25b_> how can i use any USB stick in Ubuntu
[05:00] <omeil> err soz thought it was just 2 lines :)
[05:00] <billy> OK.  We've got real help in the room now.  I"m OUT>
[05:00] <ikonia_> omeil that means the device with a major number 147 and a minior of 3 could not be opened
[05:00] <billy> Bye y'all.  Have a good day.  I'm off to help a friend put Dapper on her Pentium 3 system.
[05:00] <financier> yes i also upgraded my motherboard and cpu(amd64). is there a way not to do a fresh install just fix the problem
[05:01] <ikonia_> financier you could fix it - but it would be a better idea to do a clean install
[05:02] <|NewUser|> ikonia: having problem with GRUB " GRUB loading stage1.5.,  GRUB loading. Please wait... "Error 17" after that just blank black screen. how can i fix my GRUB?
[05:02] <majimu> jimenez
[05:03] <ikonia_> |NewUser| let me check on error 17
[05:03] <financier> i rather fix it than to do clean install again. i hope you can guide on how to do fix
[05:03] <|NewUser|> ikonia sure. i have 3 OS installed
[05:03] <cezeta> anyone can help me booting ubuntu 6.10 whitout BCMXXX module (the wlan module) <---   boot-cd detect the wlan, try to load the module and CRASH, so I whant to start with an option that not load that module
[05:03] <kenthomson> cezeta, i tried searching the ubuntuforums.org for wlan, and i don't think out of the 249 posts that showed up in the search list any post had a title which meant that ubuntu-live-cd won't boot because of wlan-module-fail. Sorry can't help you more
[05:03] <kenthomson> cezeta, you may try getting a 6.06 boot-cd and boot-it-up.
[05:04] <nugenoa> In 6.06, why can I choose where grub will be installed?
[05:04] <kenthomson> cezeta, thats all i know about it
[05:04] <ikonia_> |NewUser| error 17 is cannot mount selected partition which suggests that either the partition that contains your menu.lst is unmountable (wrong) or your root file system partition is setup wrong (probably the first)
[05:04] <Smoke2k> does anyone have adobe creative suite premium 2.3
[05:04] <cezeta> kenthomson: with 6.06 i can install withoun problems linux. what do you think about diferences beetwin 6.10 and 6.06 ?
[05:05] <|NewUser|> ikonia: then how i set it again? i just put Ubuntu-Desktop Disk in Rom and boot from that. i have just 5 options there..
[05:05] <ardchoille> cezeta: 6.06.1 is much more stable and problem-free.. and it has longer support.
[05:05] <ikonia_> cezeta updated kernel, different init system, etc etc
[05:05] <nugenoa> How do I change where to install grub in 6.06??
[05:05] <cezeta> if you think its same, i install 6.06 and will be happy idem :P
[05:05] <kenthomson> cezeta, than go for-it!, if any there would be only subtle differences which you shouldn't worry about
[05:05] <LightCatcher> What does bash do with the pipe character?
[05:05] <cezeta> pUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffff    so, dont tell me more..   WELLCOME TO LIFE 6.06 :D
[05:05] <cezeta> JEJEJEJEJE
[05:05] <ikonia_> |NewUser| you basiclly need to re-apply the grub settings, do a "sudo grub" then root (hdX,X) then setup (hdX) replace X with the appropriate Hard disk partitions and you're away
[05:05] <cezeta> thanks to all of you guys. :P
[05:06] <ikonia_> !grub >|NewUser|
[05:06] <ardchoille> LightCatcher: the pipe takes the output of one command and sends it to the input of another command.
[05:06] <financier> i rather fix it than to do clean install again. i hope you can guide on how to do fix
[05:06] <kenthomson> cezeta, or you may try this, install a clean ubuntu 6.06 and than IMMEDIATELY upgrade to edgy ubuntu 6.10, through the u.6.06 system. This may work and may fail. But its worth trying. See below for more details
[05:06] <kenthomson> !upgrade | cezeta
[05:06] <ubotu> cezeta: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:06] <LightCatcher> ardchoille: Thank you
[05:06] <nugenoa> kenthomson, In 6.06, how do I choose where to install grub, since I don't want to replace my windows boot loader?
[05:06] <pedro15> hi!
[05:06] <|NewUser|> ikonia: i dont find ther terminal where it is.. i just boot from Ubuntu-Desktop disk
[05:07] <ardchoille> LightCatcher: You're welcome :)
[05:07] <kenthomson> cezeta, ubuntu 6.06 is a great distro with long term support, more software exist for it and is more stabel you will not loose anything by using it.
[05:07] <kenthomson> nugenoa, if you have two physical HDDs than that can happen otherwise not
[05:07] <omeil> can someone test if this works only 5 kb http://files-upload.com/131473/UnixScape.tar.bz2.html i think u need konqueror
[05:07] <cezeta> I undestand, nothing to loose, brand new system, so I will try tu upgrade, if not, Im sure be happy whith my 6.06 :P
[05:07] <ikonia_> |NewUser| you don't find the terminal ???
[05:07] <ardchoille> |NewUser|: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal. Or you can CTRL+ALT+F2 and type in gnome-terminal
[05:07] <cezeta> ubotu: thanks, Im reading that now .P
[05:08] <ikonia_> cezeta why do you want to upgrade ?
[05:08] <ardchoille> |NewUser|: Sorry, that's ALT+F2 , no CTRL
[05:08] <cezeta> jejeje, its a bot :P    (im new here) :D (talking with bots) :p
[05:08] <kenthomson> nugenoa, if you have two HDDS, than the one with the windows installation is having the ms-boot-loader, when ubuntu 6.10 installation asks whether it should install grub on a certain hdd, THAN choose something OTHER than the one with the windows hdd, and you should be safe. Than you can set the ubuntu hdd as master and everything will work, if in the future u wish to unplug the ubuntu HDD, than windows shall boot normally
[05:09] <kenthomson> ikonia, He's got a problem here it is: HELP; I am trying to boot a ubuntu 6.10 live cd-32bit, on my 64-bit computer. When i select boot-from-cd, it starts loading all the modules, but when it wants to load wlan (please note that i have manually switched wlan off), it tries it and than crashes. it tells me something like: "firmware not found in module bcmxxx". And than a blank screen-nothing. Please help me get past this annoying startuo-issue.
[05:09] <|NewUser|> ikonia: but without GRUB how can i select which version of linux i want to run ?
[05:09] <mehmetfy> slm
[05:09] <kenthomson> ikonia, i just framed the question for him, please help him if you can
[05:09] <kenthomson> everybody good-bye and good-night
[05:09] <ikonia_> |NewUser| you boot frmothe livecd
[05:09] <mehmetfy> hi
[05:09] <|NewUser|> kenthomson gn
[05:09] <metalhedd> hello, I have a program I wrote in C++ a while ago, all thats left is the cpp and .h files, no makefile or anything, but its only 2 files.. the thing is i'm not sure how to build this with out make... can someone run me through it really quick? I have to submit this assignment today and I refuse to make a visual studio project out of it. :(
[05:09] <kenthomson> fnf, and YEAH moving those file to another direcotry DIDN'T work, i will have to move them back
[05:10] <|NewUser|> ikonia ya i boot from the Ubuntu-Desktop CD
[05:10] <kenthomson> |NewUser|, HAPPY UBUNTU-ing to EVERYONE
[05:10] <mehmetfy> hello speak something
[05:10] <nugenoa> kenthomson, I am not using 6.10, I'm using 6.06 and I am on one hdd, And I want to install grub to the ext3 partition vice over riding my current windows bootloader.
[05:10] <Zaggynl> Who is running Feisty in here?
[05:10] <fnf> kenthomson: I'm out of idea then, sorry.
[05:10] <PriceChild> Zaggynl, > #ubuntu+1
[05:10] <ikonia_> kenthomson I see - I think he's missunderstanding the crash, the lack of firmware for card will just disable it not crash the boot, so I think he's missunderstanding the problem
[05:10] <Zaggynl> PriceChild, thanks
[05:10] <ikonia_> |NewUser| use grub off the live cd
[05:10] <fnf> kenthomson: perhaps I need to muck with aptitude really bad to see it. ;)
[05:10] <Smoke2k> does anyone have adobe creative suite premium 2.3
[05:10] <ikonia_> Smoke2k why ?
[05:11] <ikonia_> Smoke2k thats an windows based application
[05:11] <|NewUser|> ikonia there is no option like GRUB .. just 5 options there.
[05:11] <Smoke2k> yes it can be run on wine
[05:11] <|NewUser|> ikonia : ya i started my Ubuntu from live CD now
[05:12] <Smoke2k> thats reason i am installing ubuntu
[05:12] <Smoke2k> but i only have osx version
[05:12] <nugenoa> kenthomson, shit "installing GRUB to a location other than the Master Boot Record;"    I have to DL the Alternate install CD.
[05:12] <LightCatcher> Is there a place other than "http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/quinn.key.asc" that I can get a gpg key for beryl (I'm getting a 404 error)
[05:12] <PriceChild> !ohmy | nugenoa
[05:12] <ubotu> nugenoa: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:12] <Smoke2k> i need xp version
[05:12] <ikonia_> |NewUser| I'll tell you one more time. Pay attention. 1.) boot from the ubuntu cd 2.) in a terminal type "sudo grub" you are now in a grub shell 3.) re-apply the grub settings with the commands "root (hdx,0x) and setup (hdx)" replacing X with the appropriate grub hard drive partitions, to learn more about how to work out those partition read the output of ubotu when you query it with !grub
[05:13] <ikonia_> Smoke2k this isn't a wares house - find the install media elsewhere
[05:13] <|NewUser|> ikonia : okie.
[05:14] <LightCatcher> nevermind guys, I found the gpg key for beryl
[05:15] <nugenoa> Well, so much for ubuntu, time for DSL.
[05:15] <czester> Anyone alive?
[05:15] <czester> I need ubuntu not to lock screen
[05:15] <PupUser-702a9d> 1059 peoiple :)
[05:15] <czester> when suspend
[05:15] <tier`> hrmm whenever i go under system->admin-> networking or time/date or a couple others they never load, they freeze up and i have to force quit them.. and it's unexplainable
[05:16] <ikonia_> czester this has just been discussed
[05:16] <czester> ikonia_: I can't find anything with google, just bugs.
[05:16] <czester> ikonia_: I want to turn off screen locking
[05:16] <freezey> i want to reinstall something and when i apt-get install it it wont replace the config files.... how do i get it to replace the config files as well?
[05:16] <ikonia_> czester I thought your issue was that you couldn't boot edgy
[05:17] <metalhedd> I need to compile a small C++ program I wrote, but I dont have amakefile or anything... i can't get it to build :( can someone help?
[05:17] <tecta> hmm in totem-xine i cant play xvid or dvds but i can play rm files
[05:17] <czester> ikonia_: Everything works fine. Just after resume I don't want to have screel locked with password
[05:17] <ikonia_> metalhedd you don't need a make file, but if you do, you have to make a makefile yourself
[05:17] <ikonia_> czester I thought you couldn't boot - thats what you said 2 minutes ago
[05:17] <ikonia_> czester something about a wirless card crashing the boot
[05:17] <xhost> hello all
[05:18] <czester> ikonia_: That wasn't me
[05:18] <metalhedd> ikonia_: I know that i dont need the makefile, but I dont know how to build it otherwise... I tried gcc -o myExec *.cpp and i got a million "undefined reference to std::cout" messages.
[05:18] <metalhedd> i have no idea how to make a makefile either
[05:18] <ikonia_> metalhedd then you need to debug your c code
[05:19] <metalhedd> ikonia_: its perfect. compiled and built 100% under gentoo... when I installed ubuntu on this machine instead, i lost the makefile, but i salvaged the cpp and h files.
[05:19] <metalhedd> ikonia_: It builds in visual studio too.
[05:19] <ikonia_> metalhedd well keep in mind different distros use different gcc's, headers, libs and locations
[05:19] <jcaceres> hello does any of you has used openmcu, and can tell me some about it's experience
[05:20] <jrib> ikonia_: use g++ for cpp code
[05:20] <jrib> erm, taht was emant for metalhedd
[05:20] <ikonia_> I know - its c++
[05:20] <ikonia_> its not me doing it
[05:20] <ikonia_> ahh
[05:20] <ikonia_> sorry
[05:21] <dellolinux1> * - Freenode is a service of Peer-Directed Projects Center, an
[05:21] <dellolinux1> * - IRS 501(c)(3)
[05:21] <metalhedd> ikonia_: i figured as much, the problem is I dont know where they are or how to reference them, I'm in a real pinch, I need to show my teacher my compiled program under linux, he allows me to use linux instead of Visual studio as long as I can demonstrate the working solution, but now I cant ;( i only have an hour to figure this out.
[05:21] <ikonia_> metalhedd use gentoo you said it worked
[05:21] <metalhedd> ikonia_: gentoo is gone.
[05:21] <ikonia_> metalhedd or join a c++ channel
[05:21] <ikonia_> and debug it
[05:21] <jrib> metalhedd: g++ -o hello hello.cpp   doesn't work?
[05:22] <ikonia_> jrib apparantly not
[05:22] <metalhedd> jrib: no, there are 3 cpp files 3 h files, and it requires ncurses. so I tried G++ -o hello *.cpp -lncurses  no luck, still complains about std::everything.
[05:23] <metalhedd> ikonia_: as I said before, there is nothing wrong with the C++ code, im 100% sure of that, it builds on my teachers machine under visual studio, and it build fine under gentoo.
[05:23] <Seveas> metalhedd, install libstdc++-dev
[05:23] <ikonia_> metalhedd and as I said different distros use different locations and versions, so debug the code to find out what its missind/referencing
[05:24] <cezeta> well, 6.06 its BOOTED :P
[05:24] <metalhedd> Seveas: That is the answer i was looking for.
[05:24] <metalhedd> Seveas: thank you!
[05:24] <Seveas> yw
[05:24] <ikonia_> stdio.h
[05:24] <metalhedd> dunno if it works yet, but i'm assuming it will
[05:24] <UAnon> I hope Feisty is stable when its "officially" released
[05:24] <Seveas> metalhedd, you probably also need libncurses5-dev oslt
[05:25] <metalhedd> Seveas: i think i got it already
[05:25] <Seveas> ok
[05:25] <ikonia_> UAnon thanks for the pointless comment. I hope world peiece will be peaceful when it happens
[05:25] <metalhedd> Seveas: should i use libstdc++5 or 6?
[05:25] <ikonia_> 6 gof gcc 4
[05:25] <ikonia_> typo
[05:25] <UAnon> ikonia, No problem enjoy
[05:25] <tecta> is there a way to downgrade back to edgy from feisty?
[05:25] <ikonia_> 6 for gcc 4
[05:25] <UAnon> Just today I moved a "Documents" folder into one of the hidden folders within my ~/ directory by mistake, and I couldn't use the "Find Files" tool to find the folder, so I had to look by hand
[05:25] <Seveas> metalhedd, 6
[05:26] <drewzf> I modified my sources.list and replaced dapper with edgy and upgraded and it didn't install networking
[05:26] <tier`> ok, so every time i reboot or just restart x for that matter, i get an error about the gnome settings daemon not starting and i can't seem to find any resolution to it
[05:26] <drewzf> Now I have a remote server sitting without any ability of getting online
[05:26] <drewzf> And it's 1800 miles away
[05:26] <UAnon> drewzf, That sure does suck, a little bit
[05:26] <drewzf> Is there any way to fix this remotely?
[05:26] <tier`> there's some claim on the forums that gstreamer will fix it but i installed that and no go
[05:26] <ikonia_> not if its not on the network
[05:26] <drewzf> wow
[05:26] <UAnon> drewzf, well if you can't connect to it, then no
[05:26] <drewzf> that's awesome.
[05:26] <Crazytom> [17179580.212000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] 
[05:26] <Crazytom> [17179712.648000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA]  (IRQs 4 7 10 *11)
[05:26] <Crazytom>  I think this is where my computer hangs during boot. Can someone tell me what to do about this?
[05:27] <mbac> crazytom, try booting with noacpi option
[05:27] <drewzf> bleh.
[05:27] <drewzf> I'm never touching apt-get again
[05:27] <Crazytom> how exactly do i use a boot option?
[05:27] <predaeus> drewzf: so you rebooted it and it did not come back online or what?
[05:28] <mbac> crazytom, when you're presented with the boot menu, hit edit, find the kernel options line
[05:28] <drewzf> predaeus: Exactly.
[05:28] <mbac> add that option
[05:28] <UAnon> drewzf, what sort of suggestion did you expect about fixing a remote server if its networking is not enabled?
[05:28] <Crazytom> thanks
[05:28] <UAnon> drewzf, is that server connected wirelessly?
[05:28] <edan> can anyone help me edit the grub file?
[05:28] <drewzf> UAnon: I was hoping that I could revert to my old dapper install
[05:28] <ikonia_> how ?
[05:28] <ikonia_> you've just upgraded over it
[05:28] <ikonia_> and its not on the network
[05:28] <UAnon> drewzf, lets assume that you can, how can you revert if you are not able to reconnect?
[05:28] <Pollywog> how do I boot with the acpi option if I can't get to GRUB?
[05:29] <drewzf> I know, a bit retarded of me right?
[05:29] <ikonia_> Pollywog boot from the ubuntu cd
[05:29] <ikonia_> drewzf very
[05:29] <Pollywog> no, it is a logical question
[05:29] <drewzf> I was hoping that it would have saved the old kernel and magically fixed itself, Ubuntu has always been very good to me.
[05:29] <ikonia_> Pollywog I know - and I've just told you the answer
[05:29] <ikonia_> drewzf it updates more than the kernel
[05:29] <drewzf> And I've always been able to revert using a recovery kernel.
[05:29] <metalhedd> Seveas: one step closer, but I could really use a little more guidance... i ran g++ -o Maze *.cpp -lncurses   got NO errors. but ./Maze won't execute. permission denied, even when I chmod it.
[05:29] <BruceLeeds> hello guys
[05:29] <mbac> pollywog, you've got bigger problems than ACPI if you can't get to grub
[05:29] <Pollywog> ikonia: ty I thought maybe there was another option
[05:29] <LOLZebra> hey
[05:29] <UAnon> drewzf, is it networked wirelessly?
[05:29] <ikonia_> Pollywog no
[05:29] <DrthHmstr> hi
[05:30] <drewzf> I see that now, and have since learned the proper way to upgrade, and to install a network boot on my bios.
[05:30] <Seveas> metalhedd, do you have an int main() somewhere in there?
[05:30] <drewzf> UAnon: No, it's an ethernet connection
[05:30] <ikonia_> Pollywog unless you edit it on the fly at boot time
[05:30] <UAnon> Pollywog, I dont know why you are asking about acpi problems when you are unable to get into Grub :)
[05:30] <metalhedd> Seveas: Nevermind actually. couldn't execute it on a fat partition.
[05:30] <drewzf> And I have someone sitting at the server
[05:30] <drewzf> Right now
[05:30] <metalhedd> Seveas: works fine when I copy to ~
[05:30] <ikonia_> drewzf you're screwed
[05:30] <UAnon> drewzf, it wasn't very smart to do a system-wide update without having direct access to the system
[05:30] <metalhedd> Seveas: Thanks a TON
[05:30] <UAnon> drewzf, thats like attempting to "reinstall" Windows 1500 miles away
[05:31] <Pollywog> UAnon: you need a monkey for that, one cabable of initiating reboots
[05:31] <UAnon> drewzf, have that person manually go into Ubuntu and enable the network
[05:31] <LightCatcher> Yes, saveas, I would also like to thank you on behalf of metalhedd :)
[05:31] <elfosardo> 0.5.81
[05:32] <Pollywog> a monkey should be included in the XP box
[05:32] <Tigerman> this might be a silly question, but here goes.. I have been running RedHat with Kerio Mailserver.. Is there anything similar to kerio that run on ubuntu? (Preferrably free, of course)
[05:32] <UAnon> correction, an OS should be included with the XP monkey
[05:32] <predaeus> drewzf: can you ping the server? maybe just the sshd is not running or something similar.
[05:32] <BruceLeeds> i have this on my screen:
[05:32] <BruceLeeds> "Buffer I/0 error on device hdb6, logical block 64
[05:32] <BruceLeeds> Error reading block 8 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read). Ignore error (y)?
[05:32] <BruceLeeds> yes
[05:32] <BruceLeeds> Force rewrity (y)?"
[05:32] <BruceLeeds> I did fsck - but it says that I may loose data... What shall I do?
[05:33] <Seveas> BruceLeeds, buy a new disk and hope to be able to recover your data
[05:33] <Navid> Hey
[05:33] <BruceLeeds> Seveas: that's what I tried
[05:33] <edan> can anyone help me edit the grub file?
[05:33] <ikonia_> edan to do what
[05:33] <Navid> How do I enable tabs in the terminal?
[05:33] <BruceLeeds> Seveas: so you wouldn't do fsck?
[05:33] <DrthHmstr> ?
[05:34] <drewzf> UAnon: The package networking isn't installed.
[05:34] <edan> ikonia_, to change the backround to an image
[05:34] <drewzf> And it's saying eth0 is non existant
[05:34] <Pollywog> edan just reminded me I need to find the URL where it says how to password protect GRUB
[05:34] <ikonia_> edan there is instructions on doing that all over the web
[05:34] <drewzf> I'm having him download the 6.06 server images
[05:34] <UAnon> drewzf, Do you have anyone around the server? Have them install the package manually
[05:34] <drewzf> UAnon: How? Without networking and a CD?
[05:34] <drewzf> Someone is at the server right now.
[05:34] <BruceLeeds> Seveas: I didn't mangage to mount the partition with knoppix
[05:34] <fruitbag> So, any thoughts here/
[05:34] <drewzf> I've tried everything I can think.
[05:34] <UAnon> drewzf, manually, using a USB drive / floppy / whatever
[05:35] <ikonia_> fruitbag ib what ?
[05:35] <drewzf> ooh
[05:35] <drewzf> hmm
[05:35] <ikonia_> on what
[05:35] <edan> ikonia_, im sorry i looked 40 min for it and i didnt find it
[05:35] <fruitbag> ikonia, I wanted to enable tabs in the terminal.
[05:35] <ikonia_> edan poor
[05:35] <edan> ikonia_, every ting is just on colors
[05:35] <clusty> hey
[05:35] <ikonia_> edan http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/ first page on google
[05:35] <clusty> i am runing edgy and need wish
[05:35] <clusty> what bloody package implements this?
[05:35] <UAnon> What sort of a wish?
[05:36] <clusty> tcl thingie
[05:36] <Pollywog> isn't it called wish, the package?
[05:36] <ikonia_> fruitbag its normally an option in gnome-termainl on the menu
[05:36] <clusty> its virtual
[05:36] <Pollywog> it is related to TK and TCL
[05:36] <Pollywog> IIRC
[05:37] <clusty> Pollywog, so what is to be done?
[05:37] <UAnon> When did IIRC come around?
[05:37] <|NewUser|> ikonia: i tried to set GRUB .. but same problem again.
[05:37] <edan> ikonia_, hh sorry
[05:37] <UAnon> I rarely seen people using it just a few years ago
[05:37] <ikonia_> |NewUser| your partition data must be wrong
[05:37] <pestilence> i have mplayer plugin installed, and it plays all the videos found on the mplayer plugin testing ground page, but it won't play any streaming videos (i.e. cnn.com)
[05:37] <BruceLeeds> I have this on my screen:
[05:37] <pestilence> it seems to bounce around on redirects
[05:37] <BruceLeeds> "Buffer I/0 error on device hdb6, logical block 64
[05:38] <BruceLeeds> Error reading block 8 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read). Ignore error (y)?
[05:38] <clusty> pestilence, what format is the video?
[05:38] <BruceLeeds>  yes
[05:38] <BruceLeeds> Force rewrity (y)?"
[05:38] <BruceLeeds> I did fsck - but it says that I may loose data...
[05:38] <BruceLeeds> I didn't manage to mount the harddrive with knoppix...
[05:38] <BruceLeeds> What else could I do?
[05:38] <ikonia_> BruceLeeds your disk has a hardware issue - as Seveas told you earlier
[05:38] <|NewUser|> ikonia_: can i set GRUB on another location means with Another linux?
[05:38] <pestilence> clusty: i think it's wmv, but it's a streaming wmv (i think asf is the standard)
[05:38] <BruceLeeds> ikonia: yes, I know, but what shall I do? I can't mount it - even not with knoppix!!
[05:38] <ikonia_> |NewUser| no idea what you asking
[05:38] <Faolchu> Are there any console multiple-IM clients that allow multiple accounts on a single protocol? Centericq offers multi-protocols, but no multi-accounts on any one protocol.
[05:39] <ikonia_> BruceLeeds kiss your data good bye
[05:39] <Seveas> BruceLeeds, then I think it's time to do that panic thing
[05:39] <UAnon> |NewUser|, you can put grub onto a boot/usb/floppy
[05:39] <ikonia_> BruceLeeds this is not an ubuntu issue
[05:39] <pestilence> clusty: i have all the codecs, i think.  i never have trouble playing things outside of firefox in the standalone player
[05:39] <drewzf> UAnon: What package do I want to download?
[05:39] <Seveas> BruceLeeds, try copying an image with dd_rescue and do fsck on that
[05:39] <BruceLeeds> ikonia: ok - which kind of topic is it then?
[05:39] <clusty> pestilence, i had a hard time to install firefox mplayer plugin
[05:39] <UAnon> drewzf, no clue ask ikonia, I only act like I know what Im doing
[05:39] <clusty> cant really help you there
[05:39] <ikonia_> BruceLeeds hardware
[05:39] <BruceLeeds> Seveas: How can I do that, if I am not able to mount it=
[05:39] <BruceLeeds> ?
[05:40] <ikonia_> dd doesn't need to mount
[05:40] <BruceLeeds> ikonia: so who shall I ask then?
[05:40] <ikonia_> BruceLeeds I don't know
[05:40] <BruceLeeds> thanks
[05:40] <BruceLeeds> (honestly)
[05:40] <ikonia_> BruceLeeds but its nothing to do with ubuntu - call a PC support shop and ask them for hardware recovery help if you are that bothered about data
[05:41] <fruitbag> Is C programming really at the root of many software security issues?
[05:41] <ikonia_> fruitbag offtopic
[05:41] <jrib> fruitbag: #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place
[05:41] <ikonia_> fruitbag #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:41] <ikonia_> too slow my figners
[05:41] <jrib> my fingers > your figners
[05:41] <drewzf> ikonia: What package should I download to obtain 'networking'
[05:41] <ikonia_> drewzf none
[05:42] <drewzf> ikonia: Will netwox do it?
[05:42] <ikonia_> no
[05:42] <drewzf> ikonia: How do I get the networking package then?
[05:42] <fruitbag> Very well.
[05:42] <ikonia_> you should have it
[05:42] <drewzf> But I don't.
[05:42] <UAnon> drewzf, I believe you should check whether your Ethernet card is detected altogether
[05:42] <ikonia_> how do you no
[05:42] <ikonia_> know
[05:42] <|NewUser|> ikonia_: on the grub prompt i typed "find /boot/grub/stage1" then its show me two result 1."(hd0,6) this is my Ubuntu Volume And 2."(hd0,7) And this One is Fat file system
[05:42] <drewzf> ikonia: Because when I do dpkg-reconfigure networking it says "Unknown package: networking"
[05:43] <ikonia_> drewzf because that may not be the package name
[05:43] <drewzf> Then why would it be installed to /etc/init.d/networking ?
[05:43] <subMacrolize> I'm having trouble extracting music from my iPod.
[05:43] <ikonia_> drewzf thats just an init script
[05:43] <drewzf> And no, my ethernet card isn't being detected.
[05:43] <Seveas> !find /etc/init.d/networking
[05:43] <jrib> drewzf: netbase  owns that file
[05:43] <ikonia_> drewzf thats a kernel issue
[05:43] <ubotu> File /etc/init.d/networking found in netbase
[05:43] <|NewUser|> ikonia_ : after that i set root (hd0,6)
[05:43] <Seveas> drewzf, package is netbase
[05:44] <UAnon> drewzf, then google and resolve the issue with detecting your ethernet card
[05:44] <|NewUser|> ikonia_ : after that setup that partition?
[05:44] <ikonia_> |NewUser| setup is your boot DISK not partition
[05:45] <ikonia_> eggauah: (hd0)
[05:45] <ikonia_> oops
[05:45] <LightCatcher> How do I learn more about this find command you just used on ubotu that just blew my mind?
[05:45] <ikonia_> example (hd0)
[05:45] <UAnon> LightCatcher, try "man find"
[05:45] <jrib> !ubotu | LightCatcher , you might be interested in apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com package content search, but info about ubotu:
[05:45] <ubotu> LightCatcher , you might be interested in apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com package content search, but info about ubotu:: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:46] <LightCatcher> thank you
[05:46] <LightCatcher> I was just amazed that you could make ubotu do it for us
[05:46] <bafoc> !help
[05:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:46] <apollo13> moin, how kann I add a route (or whatever) to get another gateway for one ip, example: my computer ist 10.0.0.3 the default gw is 10.0.0.54, if I request the ip 10.3.2.1 I want to use the gateway 10.0.0.33 any idea how to do this. If no, it would be enough to use a different gateway for one single port (all traffic normal, smtp other gateway)
[05:47] <UAnon> LightCatcher, ubotu is an IRC bot which is scripted to accept "commands" from users and return information which is sometimes processed internally and the results are thus dynamic
[05:48] <sbn> How can you clean an dvd-rw in ubuntu?
[05:49] <LightCatcher> UAnon: Yes, I know what ubotu is, Thank you! I just didn't know that particular command was available, in other words I didn't realize how powerful ubotu was.
[05:52] <Pollywog> who was looking for "wish" command, are you still here?
[05:52] <fr500> is there something like this for linux http://www.orb.com/
[05:52] <fr500> ?
[05:52] <Faolchu> Are there any console multiple-IM clients that allow multiple accounts on a single protocol? Centericq offers multi-protocols, but no multi-accounts on any one protocol.
[05:53] <Pollywog> clusty you still here?
[05:54] <tier`> ... grr
[05:54] <alphagamma> Hi I was wondering if anyone could offer advice about installing DVD / win codecs. I've been on google and played around for a while. The freecontrib archives seem down still...
[05:54] <lvalue> hi, "ifconfig sit3 up" gives me "sit3: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" what did i do wrong ?
[05:56] <predaeus> alphagamma: I think one needs libdvdcss2 to play dvds.
[05:57] <fr500> !streaming video
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <fr500> is there any software to do streaming  video easly from linux?
[05:57] <tier`> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/59217 ... anyone know anything about this bug? the gstreamer package was already installed when i started getting these settings daemon errors
[05:57] <fr500> like www.orb.com
[05:57] <dyrne> fr500: vlc makes this pretty easy
[05:58] <fr500> dyrne: but have you seen orb?
[05:58] <fr500> dyrne: i mean the whole package like that
[05:59] <dyrne> fr500: never seen orb before
[05:59] <fr500> it pretty good software
[05:59] <fr500> should try it
[05:59] <haxality> hey all.
[06:00] <haxality> having a weird error pop up on boot. something about 'module not found: scanPCI'
[06:00] <KlasRudian> haxality dmesg
[06:00] <KlasRudian> what does it say?
[06:01] <KlasRudian> about the error?
[06:01] <haxality> I already tried greping my dmesg for it and it doesn't have anything
[06:01] <KlasRudian> grep (EE)
[06:01] <KlasRudian> grep (WW)
[06:02] <haxality> ?
[06:02] <Rambo3> haxality, do you have any unused PCI device?
[06:02] <haxality> hmmm.
[06:02] <haxality> what do you mean by unused PCI device?
[06:03] <haxality> I mean, I know what you mean by PCI device, but what do you mean by unused
[06:03] <KlasRudian> dmesg | grep (EE)
[06:03] <Rambo3> do an lspci and look for unknown
[06:03] <KlasRudian> dmesg | grep (WW)
[06:03] <haxality> I can't use grep with parantheses
[06:03] <KlasRudian> :O
[06:03] <haxality> it thinks it's a regex expression
[06:03] <haxality> one sec I'll put it in quotes
[06:03] <haxality> nada
[06:03] <KlasRudian> aaa wait
[06:04] <KlasRudian> i'm thinking about xorg.conf
[06:04] <KlasRudian> sorry my bad
[06:04] <haxality> hahaha
[06:04] <KlasRudian> rofl
[06:04] <haxality> it's all good
[06:04] <KlasRudian> lspci
[06:04] <KlasRudian> does it give you any complete unknow device ?
[06:05] <haxality> hmmmm I don't think so
[06:05] <haxality> no it sees everything
[06:05] <haxality> even the obscure-ass toshiba SD card reader
[06:05] <Gnomer[q] > Hey folks, need a bit of help with graphics
[06:05] <Gnomer[q] > Zaggynl, ;)
[06:05] <haxality> is there a way to view the bootup output
[06:05] <majimu> hola
[06:05] <mindstate> having some trouble getting the java plugin to work with swiftfox..  all my other firefox plugins show up in about:plugins but not java .. java does show up in firefox though..any help?
[06:06] <Rambo3> dmesg is your bootup output
[06:06] <Zaggynl> Gnomer[q] , (:>
[06:06] <Rambo3> has
[06:06] <haxality> ah but it's not, Rambo3
[06:06] <haxality> I mean, it is, but it doesn't have 100% of the bootup output
[06:06] <Gnomer[q] > My system just requires me to reinstall the nVidia driver every time I start
[06:06] <Gnomer[q] > Otherwise, X fails
[06:07] <haxality> one sec though lemme sift through dmesg
[06:07] <KlasRudian> haxality is there anything that's not working propely on you machine then??
[06:07] <bafoc> Gnomer[q] : Did you use the ubuntu gui, or did you download the nvidia installer from their website?
[06:07] <haxality> hmmm
[06:07] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, from the website.
[06:07] <haxality> afaik, everything is fine
[06:07] <KlasRudian> or is it just a modul it tryes to load and you don't have that hardware??
[06:07] <Gnomer[q] > I needed the video accelerator :)
[06:08] <bafoc> hmm, that's what I used and it works perfect...
[06:08] <bafoc> hmm
[06:08] <UbunAnon> Seveas, <3
[06:08] <bafoc> Ya me to.. to run beryl
[06:08] <bafoc> :-)
[06:08] <haxality> KlasRudian: if I had to venture a guess, that would be it
[06:08] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, It complains at X about the kernel module
[06:08] <Seveas> UbunAnon, I'm warning you. Last person who stalked me ended with a k-line
[06:08] <bafoc> Gnomer[q] : Can you BCC me your xorg.conf
[06:08] <UbunAnon> Seveas, Im not stalking you its you who is harassing me, a kline is more than welcome though
[06:09] <Phaqui_> Is anyone in here able to help me with my teamspeak problem? You see, I can't seem to be able to talk, or hear anything.
[06:10] <dyrne> Phaqui: other than that its working fine? :)
[06:10] <bafoc> Gnomer[q] : I'm guessing you didn't see any errors during the nvidia install like when it started building the driver with your kernel source?
[06:10] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, no errors
[06:10] <Gnomer[q] > I'm about to pastebin the conf for you.
[06:11] <haxality> KlasRudian: I guess my next question is where can I find the list of modules that are loaded on boot
[06:11] <Phaqui> yea, it seems to be working fine, the only problem is.. well, yeah, I can't use it for anything since I can't speak nor listen!
[06:11] <bafoc> Gnomer[q] : That's a big file.... would flood the screen
[06:11] <KlasRudian> well
[06:11] <linux_> 1
[06:11] <KlasRudian> "/etc/modules" one place
[06:11] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, it's text :/
[06:11] <Gnomer[q] > Pastebin = Website
[06:11] <Gnomer[q] > I'm actually using nopaste though
[06:12] <Gnomer[q] > Link to the conf in the notice.
[06:12] <bafoc> Ah, ok.. cool never heard of it... ( guess I'm begining to be an oldtimer of linux and stuff :-) )
[06:12] <Shane-S> not sure what happened, but runnng /etc/init.d/apache start or restart, I get an an error can not chown /var/lock/apache2, any idea why it is doing that, what the default permissions and mod should be on that folder?
[06:12] <bafoc> msg me the link
[06:12] <haxality> KlasRudian: any way I can search through all the text files on my system?
[06:13] <KlasRudian> ??
[06:13] <Shane-S> I just installed it from synaptic and modded my conf file
[06:13] <haxality> I'll just search for 'scanpci' and see what comes up
[06:13] <bafoc> sure hax grep -lir
[06:13] <haxality> oh, how I love grep
[06:13] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, get it?
[06:13] <bafoc> No bro sorry
[06:13] <bafoc> I'm using BitchX
[06:13] <bafoc> :-)
[06:13] <Gnomer[q] > Sigh.
[06:13] <Gnomer[q] > DCC?
[06:13] <bafoc> sure
[06:13] <pestilence> mediaplayerconnectivity plugin for firefox kicks ass!
[06:14] <haxality> pestilence: yes.
[06:14] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, meh. http://rafb.net/p/Iqh6IL11.html
[06:14] <Gnomer[q] > To lazy, there is the link.
[06:14] <pestilence> i can watch all the games at the same time :-D
[06:14] <haxality> haha
[06:14] <bafoc> cool got it
[06:14] <bafoc> one sec
[06:15] <alphagamma> predaeus et al, I know I need libdvdcss2 & w32codecs to play dvds and windows media files respectively. The issue is fining/getting a repository to work or finding a location where the packages can be downloaded
[06:15] <jenda> Hmm... I do translations... Is there a way I could have Ubuntu restore a translating session in full, so I wouldn't have to open and resize four windows individually? This would involve one pdf viewer at the top of teh screen, one OO.org window at the bottom, one OO.org fullscreened in the background and a browser open at my dictionary...
[06:15] <jenda> Tips?
[06:15] <pestilence> alphagamma: you can get the codecs from mplayerhq.hu
[06:15] <Gnomer[q] > pestilence, or automatix <.<
[06:15] <welch> i have not had any luck getting my onboard wireless hardware to work in ubuntu, everything i read seems to say my cause is hopeless. do any of you know where i can look for a driver?
[06:16] <pestilence> alphagamma: although they won't be in deb format, you just have put the contents of the archive in /usr/lib/win32
[06:16] <alphagamma> cheers I'll check that up
[06:16] <UbunAnon> I just got a weird error anyone has an idea what just happened?
[06:16] <bafoc> :Gnomer, can you pipe the error to a file and send that over....
[06:16] <daubs> welch, what wifi card do you have?
[06:16] <haxality> welch: what card do you have?
[06:16] <alphagamma> pestilence, what location should I put the DVD codecs in
[06:16] <UbunAnon> grep: 01010011.01100101.01110110.01100101.01100001.01110011.00100000.01101100.01101111.01110110.01100101.01110011.00100000.01110100.01101000.01100101.00100000.01100011.00110000.01100011.01101011.: No such file or directory
[06:16] <welch> i cannot find that information on the emachines site
[06:16] <LightCatcher> Is there a way to make it so I can see who's nicknames are registered or not in Gaim?
[06:16] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, to be honest I'm not sure how to recreate the error like that.
[06:17] <haxality> welch: what model computer do you have?
[06:17] <Pollywog> pestilence what is that plugin exactly?
[06:17] <welch> emachines m2352
[06:17] <Pollywog> it lets you watch tv ?
[06:17] <haxality> alright give me one second
[06:17] <bafoc> Xorg -configure and then follow what it says
[06:17] <bafoc> from command prompt
[06:17] <UbunAnon> That is so weird, gep gives me random error strings now its "536576656173206C6F76657320746865206330636B00"
[06:18] <UbunAnon> Anyone seen anything remotely familiar "%53%65%76%65%61%73%20%6C%6F%76%65%73%20%74%68%65%20%63%30%63%6B%00" ?
[06:18] <predaeus> UbunAnon, what are you doing?
[06:18] <bafoc> UbunAnon: whats your command line you are typing?
[06:18] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, xorg -configure isn't a command :/
[06:19] <bafoc> "X" not "x"
[06:19] <bafoc> caps X
[06:19] <bafoc> just as I typed it above
[06:19] <|NewUser|> ikonia u there?
[06:19] <Gnomer[q] > Sigh, it's going to make me kill this x session
[06:19] <Gnomer[q] > V.v
[06:19] <bafoc> hmm, oh yeah, it will
[06:20] <UbunAnon> I was trying to compile some package manually, Sakecvo ECS for Gentoo but its giving me those errors
[06:20] <bafoc> sorry, forgot to mention that
[06:20] <estupendocero> I want to use an ipod nano as removable storage, like a thumb drive, but ubuntu isn't recognizing it like it should. I've tried restarting the machine with the device connected, to no avail. This has always been an issue with USB storage devices, but it's neverbeen mission-critical till now.
[06:20] <Huffalump> Does anyone have experience with ntfs-3g?   I have it installed, but was unable to find out how to search/probe for NTFS partitions.  The instructions on the official site seem to imply that you should automagically know /dev/hda1/foo/bar ... but I don't.  What's the advice here on how to get a list of the partitions (plural, in my case)?
[06:20] <UbunAnon> 123145166145141163040154157166145163040164150145040143060143153
[06:20] <dalespc> is there web site of ubuntu vid how to
[06:20] <estupendocero> Can I manually mount it?
[06:20] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, couldn't I just check the log files for xorg?
[06:20] <UbunAnon> estupendocero, thats weird it does recognize my 5G Ipod
[06:20] <bafoc> Sure, send that over
[06:21] <Rep0rter> Hi how do you open a .rar archives ?
[06:21] <Huffalump> dalespc, how to what?  be specific, if you can.  Ubuntu is easy.
[06:21] <dyrne> Rep0rter: install unrar   the nonfree one
[06:21] <Rep0rter> ok
[06:21] <|NewUser|> ikonia: still same problem with the grub :< i am dont know about grub more.. i used Ubuntu first time :<
[06:21] <dyrne> Rep0rter: syntax is just: unrar e file.rar
[06:22] <estupendocero> UbunAnon, yeah, it's never recognized any usb storage device. I remember I've manually mounted thumb drives in the past, but it's supposed to just recognize as soon as it plugs in, right?
[06:22] <dalespc> i am looking for how to in video
[06:22] <UbunAnon> Thats what it does with mine thus yes estupendocero
[06:22] <Huffalump> dalespc, a video of how to..... how to what?
[06:23] <bafoc> Gnomer[q] : try something for me... just a hunch
[06:23] <dalespc> i want to know linux i like this but need to learn it
[06:23] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, name it.
[06:23] <bafoc> ls /dev/input/mice
[06:23] <Huffalump> dalespc, I understand you're saying you are very new to linux.  That's great!  What are you trying to learn how to do?
[06:23] <bafoc> or ls -al /dev/input/mice
[06:23] <UbunAnon> estupendocero, Seveas was able to auto mount his USB powered dildo-thumb-drive, so its definitely something wrong with your system
[06:24] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, this would work better if it were in PM
[06:24] <bafoc> sure, PM me
[06:24] <dalespc> i have a game called second life and want to install it
[06:24] <estupendocero> UbunAnon, what could be causing it?
[06:24] <bafoc> :-)
[06:24] <Odd_Bloke> Hi guys, whenever I try to play certain avis, I get "[mp3 @ 0xef7bb0] Header missing skipping one byte." spammed out to the screen and some static-y audio output (though video is fine). I assume I'm missing a codec, but don't know where to look. Playback of MP3 files is fine.
[06:24] <estupendocero> I'd be happy just to manually mount it for now
[06:24] <bafoc> I may need to use xchat..
[06:24] <bafoc> brb
[06:24] <Gnomer[q] > bafoc, k.
[06:25] <Gnomer[q] > One sec, need to register
[06:25] <Gnomer[q] > OR switch nicks
[06:25] <Huffalump> dalespc, I found some instructions.... the commentary is not English, but if you run the line commands... it doesn't look hard.  http://www.ubuntugames.org/SecondLife
[06:25] <Huffalump> dalespc, basically, you need to download second life.  then open a Terminal (where you put in the line commands).  and --it seems-- enter these commands.  presto!
[06:25] <alienseer23> !wine
[06:25] <dalespc> ok thanks
[06:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:26] <PriceChild> dalespc, it works perfectly... just download their client, extract it, then run ./SecondLife inside it and it launches fine
[06:26] <ScribbleJ> Hello brilliant people.  I installed xubuntu using debootstrap, and installed konqueror using apt, and my install of Konqueror has a blank "tools" menu.  Any idea what I need to install to fix that?
[06:26] <Huffalump> thanks, Price
[06:26] <PriceChild> dalespc, no need to compile or anything
[06:26] <dalespc> ok
[06:26] <_Luks> have someone ever used VIrtualBox ?
[06:27] <|NewUser|> can anyone help me with GRUB? i am new i dont know how to fix my GRUB again .. i have Three OS installed in my system. plz if anycan help i really thanksfull.. i just booted my system through Ubuntu-Desktop CD
[06:27] <Huffalump> dalespc, anything else you need help doing?
[06:28] <Shane-S> I asked a question earlier about Apache, but had a connection issue, did anyone answer me?
[06:28] <dyrne> !grub| |NewUser| start here. just ask if you have questions
[06:28] <ubotu> |NewUser| start here. just ask if you have questions: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:29] <Huffalump> Shane-s, have you tried #apache ?
[06:29] <|NewUser|> dyrne: i real almost all info but dont understand it how to fix it again :< i tried something but.. same problem.. my GRUB give me same problem when i reboot
[06:29] <_Luks> have someone ever used VIrtualBox ?
[06:29] <|NewUser|> *d
[06:30] <Shane-S> yeah I asked in there, no answer yet, but all I did was change the apache2.conf and restarted it and then it started erroring on a chown of /var/lock/apache2/ so I am not sure it is apache or the systme
[06:30] <|NewUser|> dyrne: on the grub prompt i typed "find /boot/grub/stage1" then its show me two result 1."(hd0,6) this is my Ubuntu installed partition And 2."(hd0,7) And this One is Fat file system
[06:31] <eBs|Jack> is there anything i can pass to the kernel at boot time to skip fsck?
[06:31] <Odd_Bloke> eBs|Jack: Why?
[06:31] <_Luks> have someone ever used VIrtualBox ?
[06:31] <c0nv1ct> has anyone been able to get lm-sensors working? i get "General parse error" when running sensors
[06:32] <eBs|Jack> Odd_Bloke it freezes at 57%
[06:32] <Crazytom> mbac, i tried that noacpi option and it still hung right here [17179580.368000]  PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 0000:00:02.5
[06:32] <Crazytom> [17179580.368000]  Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0
[06:32] <Crazytom> [17179580.368000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] 
[06:33] <dyrne> |NewUser|: new if ubuntu is on hd0,6 then from livecd id do: 'sudo grub' then at grub> do 'root hd(0,5)' then type setup hd(0)
[06:33] <eBs|Jack> I would rather boot into the gui and do it from there.
[06:33] <DerDieDasTim> hi
[06:33] <dyrne> |NewUser|: if that doesnt give errors then the only problem would be with the menu.lst
[06:33] <Rambo3> dyre?
[06:33] <Reschat> I need some help with changing the gedit's default settings
[06:34] <estupendocero> USB storage devices (particularly an ipod) don't automagically show up on the desktop when plugged in. In looking for solutions, all the info I've been able to find simply says they will do this, so no worries. How can I manually mount it?
[06:34] <|NewUser|> dyrne: what is my livecd id ? means how can i recognized it?
[06:34] <DerDieDasTim> hmm... kann hier auch wer deutsch?
[06:34] <Tomcat1> hi. where i can find schedule for 7.04?
[06:35] <dyrne> |NewUser|: i dont understand.
[06:35] <Rob_> hello all i would like some help
[06:35] <dyrne> |NewUser|: uuid?
[06:35] <|NewUser|> dyrne: i set root (hd0,6) it is ok?
[06:35] <Shane-S> here is a question as the default user on ubuntu I try and open file with gedit, but it will not allow saving as it does not have permission. Root is disabled by default correct? If so how do I make my user able to open the files and folders?
[06:35] <killemall> morning guys
[06:35] <rullie> hey, ubuntu ops, can u unban Seveass
[06:35] <PriceChild> Tomcat1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule further questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[06:35] <PriceChild> rullie, No
[06:35] <ScribbleJ> Shane-S, you want sudo
[06:36] <estupendocero> Rob_, jest ask, if someone knows the answer, they will reply
[06:36] <Rambo3> rullie, Seveas, you mean
[06:36] <Shane-S> well how do I used gedit via the GUI w/ sudo?
[06:36] <PriceChild> Rambo3, no
[06:36] <Shane-S> I know I can use a terminal
[06:36] <Rambo3> haha ok
[06:36] <dyrne> |NewUser|: yeah i thought your ubuntu was on hda6 but seems its hda7 so that is fine
[06:36] <Shane-S> but, strictly through the gui
[06:36] <Pici> Shane-S: gksudo gedit /path/file
[06:36] <poncho1> shane-s sudo gedit filename
[06:36] <killemall> even tho i add listen_port=1000 in vsftpd.conf, its still allowing connections on port21, but not 1000
[06:36] <Rambo3> keeo him baned
[06:36] <Rob_> i just loaded mepis i want to see my win 2k network how do i do it
[06:37] <Shane-S> as the command line waits for me to close gedit before it releases the command line back to me
[06:37] <killemall> oh maybe i should try a port greater than 1025
[06:37] <jacekowski> why 18:36 -!- 1 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@user-0cdfjj1.cable.mindspring.com [by Seveas!n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas, 782 secs ago]  - he is banned?
[06:37] <Pici> Shane-S: then put & after the command
[06:37] <PriceChild> Shane-S, yes, although if you type an & at the end, it gives it back
[06:37] <Shane-S> ahh ok
[06:37] <Pici> jacekowski: Contact the person who banned him (Seveas) about that
[06:37] <Reschat> How do I turn on "Always Autocheck Spelling" in gedit?
[06:37] <|NewUser|> dyrne; when i type root (hd0,6) on prompt. msg comes "filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83"
[06:37] <Shane-S> was wondering cause I want to open all my config files up, but was only able to do one at a time
[06:38] <rizhun> Hello, can anyone tell me the commands to run to restart X?
[06:38] <Yggdrasil> rizhun ctrl - alt -bkspc
[06:38] <Pici> rizhun: From a terminal or from inside xwindows?
[06:38] <|NewUser|> dyrne: now "setup" what?
[06:38] <rizhun> terminal - for a sciprt
[06:38] <Reschat> Does anybody know how to change the gedit default spellcheck-language?
[06:38] <rizhun> * script
[06:38] <PriceChild> rizhun, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:38] <Yggdrasil> there it is
[06:38] <dyrne> |NewUser|: yeah the setup hd(0) will write to the mbr
[06:38] <rizhun> Thanks guys.
[06:39] <kouga> rizuh /etc/init.d/gdm restart or ctr+alt+baclslash
[06:39] <jacekowski> Seveas: wtf?
[06:39] <PriceChild> Seveas, damn too quick for me :(
[06:39] <dyrne> |NewUser|: my syntax may be a little off ive been using lilo since a slack install been to lazy to change it
[06:39] <jenda> Openoffice doesn't do word completion... anyone know why?
[06:39] <PriceChild> jenda, lol where?
[06:40] <jenda> PriceChild: well, in a book I'm translating...
[06:40] <Jack> is there anything i can pass to the kernel at boot to skip fsck?
[06:40] <Pici> OO does too much word completion for me...
[06:40] <jenda> PriceChild: and it contains the word 'detoxification' about a thousand times...
[06:40] <PriceChild> jenda, I think it will autocomplete dates and things... but not random words :)
[06:40] <|NewUser|> dyrne: when i type setup (hd0) its shows me succeeded msg n done it? now just reboot?
[06:40] <ladonna> need help with wireless card install....
[06:40] <Pici> PriceChild: It does random words....
[06:41] <PriceChild> Pici, really?
[06:41] <Crazytom> my ubuntu bootup is hanging and i tried the noacpi boot option but it still hangs
[06:41] <Pici> PriceChild: Yeah, its odd
[06:41] <mib> hey guys, I want to install ubuntu on a mac, I got the "ubuntu for mac"-cd by shipping, gut there is no autostart and no button to start the installation. What can I do?
[06:41] <ladonna> trying to use madwifi, unsure how to install restricted-modules
[06:41] <Reschat> Does anybody know how to change the gedit default spellcheck-language?
[06:41] <dyrne> |NewUser|: yeah if you have a problem boot back to livecd and edit menu.lst
[06:41] <PriceChild> !install | mib
[06:41] <ubotu> mib: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:41] <jenda> whoa... it doesn't even recognise words with spellcheck...
[06:41] <PriceChild> mib, you have to boot off of the cd... you realise this isn't a windows program?
[06:41] <bsnider> they finally fixed mplayer this morning
[06:42] <PriceChild> mib, *mac program
[06:42] <dyrne> bsnider: ? problem with mplayer
[06:42] <ladonna> has anyone successfully installed a wifi card on edgy
[06:42] <colbert> I'm looking for a weather and calculator widget for my desktop, anyone ??
[06:42] <bsnider> dyrne: not anymore
[06:42] <jenda> Solarion: OO.org doesn't recognise any words for spellchecking, and doesn't store any words for completion (there is only one stored, and no new ones are added...)
[06:42] <jenda> Help! :)
[06:42] <Shane-S> does gedit make files with a ~ after them by default or is that an error somewhere?
[06:42] <PriceChild> jenda, did you fix beryl btw?
[06:43] <kalve> colbert: you want a widget that gives you both calculator ADN weather?
[06:43] <jenda> PriceChild: nope
[06:43] <jenda> PriceChild: I have no clue how
[06:43] <Shane-S> like I just edited a file named default, and doing an LS there is now a default~ as well
[06:43] <PriceChild> Shane-S, those are temporary files and its really annoying! :)
[06:43] <mib> PriceChild, what do you mean? It's teh first time I set of a OS on a MAc
[06:43] <bsnider> dyrne: it was a known bug, i read the info on it, but this morning's update fixed it
[06:43] <Seveas> Shane-S, your editor made a backup
[06:43] <PriceChild> jenda, i'd suggest trying to remove/rename your current ~/.beryl dir
[06:43] <Shane-S> k ty
[06:43] <Seveas> Shane-S, gedit and joe do that, probably others as well
[06:43] <colbert> kalve: Sorry, lol no I mean I'm looking for widgets for weather and calculator, etc.. individual ones that can be put on desktop and move around and such
[06:43] <ivx> hey i got one of my friends to try ubuntu, and he decided he didn't like it and just remove the linux partition, now his coomputer won't boot cause of no grub, anyway to fix this?
[06:43] <jacekowski> Seveas: wtf?
[06:43] <PriceChild> mib, You can't start the instillation from inside the OS, you need to boot off of the cd
[06:43] <Shane-S> problem is that will confuse the heck out of apache
[06:43] <ladonna> simple question, how do I install restricted-modules
[06:43] <Seveas> sigh
[06:43] <Shane-S> guess I will stick to PICO
[06:43] <dyrne> bsnider: what id like to see is mplayer switch to mp3lib when it detects a crappily made video so i dont have to -afm
[06:44] <foo> How much bandwidth have you guys seen 1 server push? The hardware I'm working with is a core 2 duo, raid 5 with 3 400GB drives with a 3mware card. Pushing 130mbit continuously.. I see the load at about 70. Server is still responsive, which is good... but iowait is still up there.
[06:44] <PriceChild> grrr
[06:44] <ladonna> trying to install madwifi
[06:44] <Shane-S> gui is just so much nicer :(
[06:44] <Pici> colbert: Check out gdesklets , I dont know the name of the K compatible version
[06:44] <bsnider> dyrne: i think that is what was fixed
[06:44] <Crazytom> my ubuntu bootup is hanging and i tried the noacpi boot option but it still hangs
[06:44] <winmutt> foo: we have alot of servers with gigabit uplinks
[06:44] <dyrne> bsnider: oh :)
[06:44] <|NewUser|> dyrne: after reboot GRUB show me menu 0f OS selection when i try to select Ubuntu or RHEL so msg comes ERROR 17: Cannot mount selected Partition.. same with RHEL too.. but Windows XP selection Working fine.. now what shold i do.. want to use Ubuntu
[06:44] <bafoc> Pici: KDE uses SuperKaramba...
[06:44] <bsnider> dyrne: but it has not been able to play mp3s for about a month now
[06:44] <Pici> bafoc: Thanks
[06:44] <bafoc> np
[06:45] <ScribbleJ> ladonna, if you are on Edgy, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[06:45] <foo> winmutt: Can I PM you? This channel is crazy
[06:45] <mib> PriceChild: I already tried this, but there is anything like "booting from cd" it's just booting Mac like it normaly does
[06:45] <AMD> hi
[06:45] <jenda> gah - fixed. For some reason, english (australia) was the language chosen :/
[06:45] <bafoc> hi AMD, how is ATI?
[06:45] <bafoc> hehe
[06:45] <PriceChild> mib, Im' not familiar with macs, but I'd guess you still have to edit the boot order in the bios
[06:46] <winmutt> foo: 587.05
[06:46] <ladonna> ScribbleJ: i was told this sequence to get my wifi card to work
[06:46] <winmutt> oh wait
[06:46] <dyrne> |NewUser|: id boot from live cd and 'gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' then pastebin that so we can look at it
[06:46] <bafoc> for Mac's you don't use the BIOS to set your Bootable disk
[06:46] <Reschat> Do anyone know how to change the gedit default spellcheck-language?
[06:46] <foo> winmutt: What's that? :)
[06:46] <Pici> mib: Theres a specific key combination you need to press during boot.  I havent touched a mac in years so I dont know what it is.
[06:46] <dyrne> |NewUser|: er actually /media/hda7/boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:46] <oopsy> hey
[06:46] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, what do you disc partitions look like , and that is grun saying ?
[06:47] <oopsy> I tried using ndiswrapper for my ralink
[06:47] <Rambo3> the menu
[06:47] <jacekowski_> Seveas: why you banned me?
[06:47] <winmutt> foo:183.16mb/s 95th
[06:47] <mib> PriceChild: Good idea, but there is nothing like bios like you'd know it from windwos. Do you know how to get into something like bios on a mac?
[06:47] <oopsy> I tried using ndiswrapper for my ralink, but when I rebooted
[06:47] <Seveas> that one is getting too annoying
[06:47] <oopsy> ubuntu doesn't start
[06:47] <oopsy> it just stays on the booting screen
[06:47] <Crazytom> ladonna, what kind of card do you have
[06:47] <AMD> bafoc: A  Little wet behind the ears :)
[06:47] <alienseer23> hello, if I want a doubble booting machine, is it necessary to install ubuntu after or before windows?
[06:47] <oopsy> in Configuring Network Interfaces
[06:47] <foo> winmutt: Ok, so it's pushing 183mbit/sec... what's 95th?
[06:47] <winmutt> foo: we run mostly debian
[06:47] <PriceChild> mib, I haven't a clue :) have you checked the install guide on the wiki?
[06:47] <alienseer23> ((so sad I am installing windows))
[06:47] <Rambo3> oopsy, doesn't ralink provide native drivers for linux
[06:47] <winmutt> 95th percentile
[06:47] <Pici> alienseer23: Easier if you install it after
[06:47] <PriceChild> mib, That's all I can suggest sorry.
[06:47] <mib> what would be really helpfull Pici, does anybody know this combination?
[06:48] <oopsy> Rambo3, I don't know.. does it?
[06:48] <Pici> mib: I'd try googling for it.
[06:48] <I3ooI3oo> you hold down "c" to boot from CD on a MAC
[06:48] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: before my GRUB not Working .. now my GRUB shows me Selection 0f Wchich OS to load. but now
[06:48] <mib> k, thx
[06:48] <ladonna> Crazytom: belkin F5D7000 ver.7000
[06:48] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 : after reboot GRUB show me menu 0f OS selection when i try to select Ubuntu or RHEL so msg comes ERROR 17: Cannot mount selected Partition.. same with RHEL too.. but Windows XP selection Working fine.. now what shold i do.. want to use Ubuntu
[06:48] <alienseer23> Pici, what do I have to do if I install Ubuntu first?
[06:48] <Rob_> i am soo lost can i have a coach just loaded mepis
[06:48] <ladonna> Crazytom: tried ndiswrapper w/bcmwl5 did not work
[06:48] <Seveas> Rob_, try the mepis channels/forums
[06:48] <Rambo3> oopsy, http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html , take a look at ubuntuforums too
[06:48] <winmutt> foo: you take all the 5 min data points over a month, order them by size and pick the 95th percenile
[06:48] <Rob_> how where
[06:48] <Pici> alienseer23: You may need to reinstall grub after you install windows
[06:48] <bafoc> alienseer23: you have to dd the first 512K blocks from your boot sector and save it to a file...
[06:48] <winmutt> foo: its how real hosting is billed
[06:49] <Pici> alienseer23: actually you WILL need to reinstall grub
[06:49] <winmutt> foo: some marketing weasel came up with it for sure
[06:49] <ladonna> Crazytom: also tried ndiswrapper w/ driver on cd (XP and 98)
[06:49] <jacekows1i_> Seveas: please answer
[06:49] <bafoc> alienseer23: do a google search for dual booting linux and windows, there are tons of docs out there
[06:49] <alienseer23> I won't have to do this if I can get WINE to run, but wine will not install anything?!?!
[06:49] <alienseer23> so, all I would have to do is reinstall grub?
[06:49] <winmutt> when you aggregate alot of 95th customrs into one line you get about a 12-15% markup off the bat
[06:49] <bafoc> Pici: only if you want to use grub as your bootloader
[06:49] <ladonna> Crazytom: I thought it used a broadcom chipset, but apparently not
[06:49] <Crazytom> ladonna, shouldn't need ndiswrapper on a broadcom chip
[06:49] <Horizon> mib: for mac you need to do cmd-opt-O-F
[06:49] <Horizon> on boot
[06:49] <Pici> bafoc: Most people do.
[06:50] <mib> I got it. it's "c"!
[06:50] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, press e to edit  ubuntu line at grub and tell me what it says , also paritions of you disc , is ubuntu on extended , or primery
[06:50] <cableguy> hi
[06:50] <Rob_> can someone coach me in a single im window
[06:50] <cableguy> can someone help me please?
[06:50] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: ubuntu is on Extended
[06:50] <PriceChild> Just ask your question and see cableguy :)
[06:50] <cableguy> i have a problem with my intel graphics card
[06:50] <cableguy> :)
[06:50] <ladonna> Crazytom: I used ndiswrapper on another belkin w/bcmwl5 worked as advertised. that is why im confused
[06:50] <bafoc> Pici: installing grub after you have installed windows from CD... that's harder than installing windows first, then linux :-)
[06:50] <cableguy> whenever i run 3d games it causes my system to freeze
[06:51] <Pici> bafoc: I had already suggested to him to install linux second, he wanted to know what to do if he did it in the other order.
[06:51] <Rob_> how can i connect linux to a windows network to see shares
[06:51] <Rambo3> |NewUser|,  ok is it on first extended ?
[06:51] <Crazytom> ladonna, what is the card doing
[06:51] <I3ooI3oo> pici samba is one way
[06:51] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: no it is on no 6
[06:51] <winmutt> foo: http://graphs.national-net.com/graphs/5996b5fb4a1f6becfdf7ada6501fdfa6m2.png
[06:51] <Pici> I3ooI3oo: Eh?
[06:51] <brianMan> Rob_: By using Samba (smbmount)
[06:51] <winmutt> that server peaked over 211
[06:51] <ladonna> Crazytom: nothing, it doesnt even show in networking just modem and wired. I'm using the wired connection now....
[06:51] <I3ooI3oo> program called SAMBA
[06:52] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, so you have one partition on extended then Ubuntu ?
[06:52] <bishopek> Hello. I have a problem with gnome-ppp/wvdial with nozomi. I have o Globetrotter Fusion+ card and gnome-ppp is somehow not working. Here is the output: http://rafb.net/p/zuNrg995.html - What could be wrong? Is it because the differences in the commands?
[06:52] <Pici> I3ooI3oo: I know, I didnt ask anything though ;)
[06:52] <winmutt> foo: its a single xeon p4
[06:52] <winmutt> lolz
[06:52] <I3ooI3oo> soory it was rob_
[06:52] <dkbg> I'm having some issues after setting up WPA2, it works perfectly, but I always have to restart the interfaces (/etc/init.d/networking restart) after I log in for it to connect
[06:52] <I3ooI3oo> scroll got me
[06:52] <winmutt> 1gb ram
[06:52] <bafoc> Pici: hehe, hard lessons.... all I can say is go for it :-)
[06:52] <ladonna> Crazytom: ndiswrapper -l bcmwl5 invalid driver. tried driver off the cd, loaded fine but no connection
[06:52] <Crazytom> ladonna, what about ifconfig -a
[06:52] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 i have 2 partitions for vfat. 1 partition for RHEL , 1 partition for Ubuntu And 1 for swap
[06:53] <ladonna> Crazytom: what info too extract?
[06:54] <bishopek> Anyone?
[06:54] <Rob_> Samba ?????? where how?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> For a good samba background Install 'sudo apt-get install  samba-doc '  and read the Books that wil/usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/using_samba " and " /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/ " docs WELL worth reading. l be in ..   "
[06:54] <Rambo3> |NewUser|,  [Windows /dev/hda1 ]    [ {RHEL dev/hda5} , {UBUNTU /dev/hda6 } ....] *extended
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !samba
[06:54] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:54] <Crazytom> ladonna, does the card show up?
[06:55] <Rob_> english please   or  slowly for a newbie
[06:55] <ladonna> Crazytom: eth0  Link encap:Ethernet
[06:55] <admin__> aiuto
[06:55] <ladonna> Crazytom: lo Link encap:Local Loopback
[06:55] <Horizon> Crazytom: for the bcmwl5 driver wouldn't fwcutter work?
[06:56] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: on Grub screen i press "e" there is 5 options . "1 root (hd0,8)" "2. Kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.6.15-28-386 root=/dev/hda9 ro quiet splash." "3 initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-28-386" "4 savedefulat" "5 boot"
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Rob_,  install those packages.. read theose digital books.. will explain all about samba.. in all its details.. Of coure if you got some Specific/simple  needs well - others here may help you
[06:56] <ladonna> Crazytom: sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
[06:56] <estupendocero> So ubuntu isn't autodetecting usb drives, does anyone know a fix or a workaround? I just need this thing mounted.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> estupendocero,  mount it manually
[06:56] <rizhun> Guys, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" just sends me to a blank screen with a cursor... But it's not a terminal, I can type, but no commands work.  Is there another way?
[06:56] <Rob_> ty so far dr wil
[06:56] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: its ok all partitions u said that its right.
[06:56] <estupendocero> Dr_willis, I'm perfectly willing to do that. Where is it? How?
[06:56] <Crazytom> Horizon, thanks i couldn't remember how i did my firmware
[06:57] <Crazytom> ladonna, have you installed fwcutter?
[06:57] <Shane-S> new to Ubunut/Linux what area in the gooey or command via shell can I issue to make it release and renew an IP
[06:57] <bishopek> Does anyone know what's with the gnome-ppp?
[06:57] <Pabl0Escobar> Seveas: might I aks, just curiosity, why did You ban jacekowski ?
[06:57] <ladonna> Crazytom: sorry, no idea?
[06:57] <PriceChild> Pabl0Escobar, troll
[06:57] <PriceChild> Pabl0Escobar, best you don't ask again ;)
[06:57] <Dr_willis> estupendocero,  i got to go to work.. id say google for some mount howto/tutorials. its not hard.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> estupendocero,  may want to try here first
[06:57] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, press "e" to change a line in there . and change  root (hd0,5) . enter to save changes * temporery
[06:57] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:57] <Dr_willis> bye all
[06:57] <Pabl0Escobar> ok, I won't :D
[06:58] <Crazytom> bcm43xx-fwcutter is the package name
[06:58] <Crazytom> ladonna, bcm43xx-fwcutter is the package name
[06:58] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, do the same for kernel line root=/dev/hda6
[06:58] <ladonna> Crazytom: i need to install this for the card to work?
[06:59] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, when you are done go to top line and press b
[06:59] <Crazytom> estupendocero, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266 try here
[06:59] <sputnik2012> Hi all, My kernel can't find it's modules. uname -r gives 2.6.20.1-custom but the modules are compiled in the /lib/modules/2,6,20.1 directory.  ls -l gives their  time of creaton, how can I set the module dir?
[06:59] <Crazytom> ladonna, it sounds like you don't have firmware installed... so yes
[06:59] <sputnik2012> or recompile the kernel with it's proper name?
[06:59] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 : there is Error 15: File Not Found
[07:00] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, syntax error
[07:00] <ladonna> Crazytom: okay, install bcm43xx-fwcutter, ndiswrapper, load driver and configure?
[07:01] <Crazytom> ladonna, you already have ndiswrapper installed right?
[07:01] <|NewUser|> root (hd0,5) Filesystem type is fat, partition type 0xb kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.6.15-28-386 root=/dev/hda9 ro quit splash Error 15: file not found
[07:01] <|NewUser|> Rambo3*
[07:01] <ladonna> Crazytom: yes
[07:01] <Nitro> I got a little problem, my mousewheel has just recently started to be a bit "laggy".
[07:01] <estupendocero> Crazytom, I have seen that link. It doesn't help. It assumes that the device will be autodetected. What I want is to type $ mount xxxxxxx /media/usb, I just need to know what goes in the xxxxx's.
[07:01] <bluffer_> well i need to compile this on ubuntu can some one point to me what i need to aptget to compile this driver ?http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linux/3c90x-102.tar.gz
[07:01] <eigenlambda> kgyz.  so 'apt-get remove sun-java5-bin' hangs on postrm.  how to pull out the postrm script, do it manually, and then mark the package as removed?
[07:02] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, try hd0,6 and root=/dev/hda7
[07:02] <eigenlambda> postrm hangs. plz advz.
[07:02] <ladonna> Crazytom: i would like to start from scratch though
[07:02] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: its opened :P
[07:02] <Crazytom> ladonna, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[07:03] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 : thankx alot man.. now tell me how to fix this setting permenant?
[07:03] <massctrl> yowz, the motherboard of my laptop changed, giving my nic another mac, .. udev now maps it to eth1 instead of eth0, ... where  can I find where my old mac address is mapped to eth0 ?
[07:03] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, start terminal
[07:04] <eigenlambda> apt is hanging.  plz advz.
[07:04] <PriceChild> eigenlambda, patience
[07:04] <Jasperk> hey hi i am newbie in linux...and i don't know how install my scann and my keyboard and webcam....some of you know a page with some good tutorial with that information......please!!
[07:04] <ladonna> Crazytom: i tried this before, when i  lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation I get something different
[07:04] <dkbg> after configuring WPA2 by following the tutorial here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834, I need to restart my network everytime I log in, any ideas?
[07:04] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: not open give me prompt root@freddy# im on root
[07:05] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, do you know linux ?
[07:05] <Rambo3> well
[07:05] <Rambo3> and vi
[07:05] <ladonna> Crazytom:  lspci: Belkin Unknown device 700f (rev 20)
[07:05] <PriceChild> |NewUser|, Best not to use a root terminal
[07:05] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 : some info 0f vi and nano pico.
[07:05] <PriceChild> !sudo > |NewUser|
[07:05] <dkbg> I've confirmed its WPA2 that's causing the trouble since removing encryption, it works automatically
[07:05] <|NewUser|> ya PriceChild
[07:05] <belyle> howdy all, I'm using gaim beta 6 and my system keeps wanting me to "upgrade" to gaim beta3-ubuntu.  I've tried locking the package version in synaptic, but it still insists that I need to upgrade.  It wouldn't be a big deal, really, except when I 'upgrade,' the AIM/ICQ plugin no longer works/loads.  Is there a way to hardcode/blacklist the gaim update so it will stop bugging me about it?
[07:05] <|NewUser|> no im in freddy@freddy
[07:06] <Rambo3> PriceChild, thats safe mode
[07:06] <estupendocero> I'm trying to mount this ipod - it's not in fstab, it's not in mtab, it doesn't autodetect, and I can't find anything online. What gives?
[07:06] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 : now im on on propmt freddy@freddy$
[07:06] <Rambo3> type tartx
[07:06] <Rambo3> startx
[07:06] <PriceChild> Rambo3, Its definitely not a good idea to start a root X ;)
[07:06] <Pollywog> if I chmod 600 my /boot/grub/menu.lst will my machine still boot?  I think it will but I am unsure
[07:06] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting
[07:07] <Rambo3> ok
[07:07] <Rambo3> |NewUser|,  type : /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:07] <|NewUser|> ya X server start i type sudo startx
[07:07] <|NewUser|> i m on terminal
[07:08] <eigenlambda> oic... lol
[07:08] <eigenlambda> postrm scripts are hidden in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[07:08] <Rambo3> |NewUser|,  type : gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:08] <eigenlambda> so all i need to do is run those commands manually, and delete the script there hehe
[07:09] <Crazytom> ladonna, how did you conclude it was a broadcom chip?
[07:09] <bishopek> I have a problem with gnome-ppp/wvdial with nozomi. I have o Globetrotter Fusion+ card and gnome-ppp is somehow not working. Here is the output: http://rafb.net/p/zuNrg995.html - What could be wrong? Is it because the differences in the commands?
[07:09] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: gksudo:3741: GtK-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:09] <BouRne> how to disable the boot splash screen-windowsxp-like ?
[07:10] <Rambo3> |NewUser|,  type : gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:10] <ladonna> Crazytom:  i wasnt sure, it is the same as the other belkin i have that uses a broadcom chipset
[07:10] <Rambo3> since you are root
[07:10] <eigenlambda> fortunately, dpkg is more open than gnome as to what its up to
[07:10] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: ya file is not open is not .list its .lst
[07:10] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 now its open.
[07:10] <ladonna> Crazytom:  the driver that was on the cd did not work with ndiswrapper either, is this of any consequence?
[07:10] <LightCatcher_> is it "safe" to run programs (like firefox and gaim) while ubuntu is installing updates?
[07:11] <Pollywog> Light in general, yes
[07:11] <Crazytom> ladonna, same version card?
[07:11] <Pollywog> LightCatcher_:  in general, yes
[07:11] <Rambo3> change groot  to 0.6 then scroll down and change parameters as you did on boot
[07:11] <Rambo3> ,
[07:11] <Pollywog> LightCatcher_: unlike that other OS
[07:12] <ladonna> Crazytom:  not sure, sorry. that is why I was tring to use madwifi becaus ei thought this card uses a different chipset
[07:12] <LightCatcher> pollywog: Thanks. What if firefox and gaim themselves are being updated?
[07:12] <Pollywog> LightCatcher: in that case, better to stop them and then update
[07:13] <LightCatcher> thank you
[07:13] <Husio> hello
[07:13] <BouRne> how to disable the boot splash screen-windowsxp-like ?
[07:13] <ladonna> Crazytom:  when using bcmwl5 i received invalid driver. when using the driver from the cd with ndiswrapper, the driver loads but the card does not show up anywhere
[07:13] <Crazytom> ladonna, any chance that you could try the other card?
[07:14] <Pollywog> Bourne in kdm?
[07:14] <Jasperk> hey nobody know some page with information about install drivers....
[07:14] <Husio> which idiot has banned half of polish ubuntu users?
[07:14] <ladonna> Crazytom:  the other card is installed in another system
[07:14] <BouRne> Pollywog: no, like when it boots... and loads the system....
[07:14] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 : dont understand the file :< means on start There is 5 options to set
[07:14] <jrib> Husio: try #ubuntu-ops but you should consider using a more friendly attitude
[07:14] <ladonna> Crazytom:  that is why im confused. i tried the exact same procedures on this card as i did on the card that is functional
[07:15] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: title. Root. kernel. initrd. savedefault. boot
[07:15] <Husio> hey, someone allready tryed to speak to those dude...
[07:15] <Pollywog> Bourne: I think that is in grub if I understand you correctly
[07:15] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: i set the kernel parameter?
[07:15] <Husio> and he said that it's ok
[07:15] <Husio> so... no comments
[07:15] <Rambo3> |NewUser|,  root(hd0,6)
[07:15] <BouRne> Pollywog: hmmmmm.....
[07:15] <Crazytom> ladonna, you can't swap temporarily?
[07:15] <PriceChild> Husio, #ubuntu-ops We are aware of your concerns
[07:15] <BouRne> Pollywog: i will take a look at that
[07:15] <Rambo3> |NewUser|,  and root=/dev/hda7 on all
[07:16] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: okie
[07:16] <Pollywog> and in kdm there are two ways to disable the boot splash you see when kdm starts
[07:16] <Rambo3> and groot(0,6)
[07:16] <Pollywog> depending on the version of KDE
[07:16] <ladonna> Crazytom:  what are you suggesting? trying to determine if its the card or the something else?
[07:16] <Crazytom> ladonna yes, I'm over my head here if anyone else wants to take over.
[07:17] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, groot=(hd0,6)
[07:17] <Rambo3> only one
[07:17] <bryguy_> I'm trying to get Ubuntu or Fedora installed on an old thinkpad.  Boots only from floppy or hard drive, no cdrom drive.  It has a nonbootable usb port, and I have a 1GB USB disk.
[07:17] <ladonna> Crazytom:  im going to swap cards, are you going to be avail.....
[07:17] <bryguy_> Any ideas?
[07:17] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 groot Whats that?
[07:17] <Crazytom> ladonna, i have about thirty cards so i just changed until i got one that worked
[07:18] <CharlieChester> anyone know if there are currently problems with the ubuntu repositories. Cant refresh.
[07:18] <czester> PriceChild: http://wklej.org/id/e81bf91f42 yeah
[07:18] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, use search
[07:18] <Pollywog> CharlieChester: works for me here
[07:18] <topgun553> hello
[07:18] <topgun553> could someone help me with something?
[07:18] <Crazytom> ladonna, i'll be here for a bit i'm trying to get my computer to boot in under ten minutes
[07:19] <ladonna> Crazytom:  i have an extra D-Link AirPlus Xtreme DWL-G520 H/W Ver::B2 F/W Ver::3.1.6 will this work?
[07:19] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 : ya get it change it to (hd0,6)
[07:19] <Crazytom> ladonna, what chipset is it
[07:19] <Crazytom> Does anyone know if ubuntu will hotplug wireless cards?
[07:19] <ladonna> Crazytom:  not sure i think it is atheros
[07:19] <topgun553> Hey Could someone tell me how to set up my Wireless Router (Linksys) with Ubuntu so no one can steal my internet?
[07:20] <ladonna> Crazytom:  is there a way to confirm on the card?
[07:20] <CharlieChester> Pollywog: thanks.
[07:20] <LightCatcher> CharlieChester: I was having problems with the canadian repos the other day, so I removed "ca." from all of them.
[07:20] <Rambo3> topgun553, wire it
[07:20] <Valdebbo> How can I add IRC channels to my "favourites" in XChat?
[07:20] <Rambo3> !WPA > topgun553
[07:20] <ladonna> Crazytom:  im so confused, ive been trying to get this to work for 2 weeks
[07:21] <PriceChild> Valdebbo, XChat > network list > choose your network then press "Edit..."
[07:21] <metres>  Hi all I have problem installing kaffeine under a 32bits chroot I got these errors : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10497/
[07:21] <PriceChild> Valdebbo, you can add them there :)
[07:21] <Valdebbo> Thanks, PriceChild!
[07:22] <topgun553> Rambo3, I don't even know what I would need on that page
[07:22] <topgun553> Is there an easy thing to change in the admin of a linksys router only to let my laptop have wireless?
[07:23] <dyrne> topgun553: mac filtering?
[07:23] <CharlieChester> strange. websterwoord, milone, pretty much any third party ones are failing
[07:23] <bafoc> is there a google bot setup on freenode or on this channel?
[07:23] <Valdebbo> I'd recommend setting WPA, disabling SSID transmit and applying MAC filtering.
[07:23] <Rambo3> topgun553, open firefox type wiki wpa
[07:23] <topgun553> dyrne, whats mac filtering?
[07:23] <grantgm> topgun553: yea, mac address filtering is probably the best way
[07:23] <colbert> Has anyone here tried to view Quicktime movies on apple.com/quicktime?? If I load a page  that links to HD Trailers, firefox freezes
[07:23] <eXistenZ> any geek around here?
[07:23] <CharlieChester> wpa in ubuntu? The chance of getting gnome network manager working with that is small
[07:23] <Crazytom> Does anyone know if ubuntu will hotplug wireless cards?
[07:24] <topgun553> What is mac filtering?
[07:24] <Valdebbo> Unfortunately MAC filtering in itself doesn't help, because MAC addresses are spoofable.
[07:24] <dong> hi
[07:24] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: i change those fields. now save the file and reboot?
[07:24] <zmaster> Hey all, since Gnome 2.18 just got released, how can i upgrade to it ??
[07:24] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, yeah
[07:24] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: 1 more thing..
[07:24] <grantgm> a mac address is a unique identifier for each different network device
[07:24] <dong> hi@all
[07:24] <eigenlambda> zmaster: why the fuck would you want to do that?
[07:24] <eigenlambda> are you a gnome developer?
[07:24] <PriceChild> !ohmy | eigenlambda
[07:24] <ubotu> eigenlambda: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:24] <zmaster> calm down asswipe
[07:24] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: for Windows XP i set root (hd0,0)
[07:25] <CharlieChester> topgun553: also simply consider turning down the transmission power to about 10% if you can. The best protection in the world is them not being to tune in to your wireless!
[07:25] <PriceChild> !ohmy | zmaster
[07:25] <ubotu> zmaster: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:25] <grantgm> topgun553: so you can set up your router to only allow connections from you laptop's wireless card
[07:25] <eigenlambda> ps- gnome has plenty of information about how to build it from source if you're trying to use gentoo
[07:25] <rizhun> Can anyone tell me how to restart X? /etc/init.d/gdm restart just gives me a blank screen...
[07:25] <bafoc> !help
[07:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:25] <zmaster> yea tell eigenlambda to do so as well
[07:25] <dong> does somebody feel in the mode to answer me some questions?
[07:25] <yo2lux> Hi
[07:25] <shatrat> rizhun, ctrl alt backspace
[07:25] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, thats ok
[07:25] <Yodude> hey i heard that beryl 2.0 got released, but ubuntu didn't tell me about any update, what's wrong?
[07:25] <rizhun> shatrat: I would like to do it from a script.
[07:25] <PriceChild> Yodude, ubuntu doesn't include beryl
[07:25] <|NewUser|> And for RHEL i set root (hd0,5) ANd kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.6.9-5.EL (on /dev/hda6)
[07:26] <eigenlambda> Yodude: that's because it isn't packaged in the repository you're using yet
[07:26] <Yodude> nono i have the RC installed
[07:26] <zmaster> isnt it good to upgrade to the latest gnome version
[07:26] <yo2lux> An Intel Pentium 4 at 2Ghz and 512MB RAM, 128MB Video Card is enough to run Ubuntu with GNOME at good speed ?
[07:26] <grantgm> does anyone know how to get a livecd to show whats happening while its booting?
[07:26] <zmaster> i heard its faster and more efficient
[07:26] <shatrat> rizhun, Im not sure if gdm restart doesnt work.
[07:26] <eigenlambda> not necessarily
[07:26] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, i dont know what RHEL is
[07:26] <dyrne> topgun553: mac filtering isnt foolproof. its easy to get around but you have to have some basic knowledge and most people dont. so its good in 95% of cases
[07:26] <eigenlambda> it's generally better to upgrade everything all at once
[07:26] <Yodude> i'm just wondering why i don't see no update
[07:26] <|NewUser|> And for RHEL i set root (hd0,5) ANd kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.6.9-5.EL root-LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
[07:26] <rizhun> why would gdm restart not work. where can i find a log file to tell me why?
[07:26] <Yodude> it IS hosted on the main repo no?
[07:26] <belyle> is there a way besides through synaptic to lock a package version?  When I select "lock package" in synaptic, update manager still tries to get me to update
[07:26] <eigenlambda> Yodude: no
[07:26] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: RHEL for Redhat Enterprse Linux
[07:26] <colbert> Can anyone here view quicktime trailers in Firefox ???
[07:26] <dong> ok, does ubuntu install a bootmanager?
[07:27] <eigenlambda> you got it from somewhere else, ubuntu does not package beryl
[07:27] <Pollywog> colbert: url?
[07:27] <topgun553> How do I determine my laptop's mac adresss
[07:27] <Pollywog> I think I see some
[07:27] <eigenlambda> and is not responsible for the repository its in
[07:27] <CharlieChester> dyrne: also, just consider limiting the number of connections at the router.
[07:27] <Rambo3> |NewUser|,  thats ok as long as you can boot into ubuntu and make changes for boot parameters
[07:27] <Valdebbo> topgun: ifconfig
[07:27] <Yodude> oh. i seem to have forgot about that, although the annoucer that something like "edgy main"
[07:27] <eigenlambda> ask the people who control that repositroy
[07:27] <Yodude> anyway i'll check the installation guide for the repo
[07:27] <Yodude> thnkx n bye
[07:27] <|NewUser|> Rambo3 : now finally save the file And reboot my system?
[07:27] <colbert> Pollywog: http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/slowburn/hd/
[07:27] <Crazytom> ladonna, did you swap cards yet
[07:28] <rizhun> What is the 'chkconfig' equivalent in Ubuntu?
[07:28] <Rambo3> yeo
[07:28] <zmaster> eigenlambda: i got ffmpeg compiled from scratch to support encoding for my psp but its an old version, but whenever i upgrade everything it upgrades ffmpeg as well and thus i loose the psp one. How can i upgrade everything else and leave ffmpeg build as it is ?
[07:28] <colbert> Pollywog: I just clicked on it and my Firefox froze.. because there are embedded links to the HD trailer, so it actually starts quicktime itself on that page
[07:28] <grantgm> rizhun: what does chkconfig do?
[07:28] <rizhun> grantgm: tells you what runlevel various things start at
[07:29] <eigenlambda> you need a pin
[07:29] <eigenlambda> um
[07:29] <dong> hello?
[07:29] <topgun553> How do you figure out what your MAC address is?
[07:29] <zuuswa> !hi
[07:29] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:29] <ladonna> Crazytom:  not yet. im sorry but i have to go. thanks for all your help. if I figure something out ill let you know, thanks again
[07:29] <eigenlambda> apt pinning.  i have to look it up every thyme :/
[07:29] <eigenlambda> !help pin
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help pin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <eigenlambda> !help pinning
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help pinning - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <dong> does somebody know if i can install a bootmanager by installing ubuntu?
[07:29] <rizhun> topgun553: arp -a
[07:30] <Crazytom> my ubuntu bootup is hanging and i tried the noacpi boot option but it still hangs please help
[07:30] <Pollywog> colbert: mplayer comes up but I think the codecs are missing on my system
[07:30] <eigenlambda> oic.  you need a /etc/apt/preferences file
[07:30] <eigenlambda> with Package: fackagename
[07:30] <rizhun> topgun553: oh, you mean the mac ad of ur nicard?
[07:30] <eigenlambda> Pin: release number
[07:30] <eigenlambda> Pin-Priority: something big
[07:30] <eigenlambda> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[07:30] <topgun553> rizhun, whatever mac addresss I need to put into my admin thing for the linksys
[07:30] <dyrne> topgun553: or just 'ifconfig' youll see a HWaddr
[07:30] <grantgm> Crazytom: what sort of a system are you running?
[07:31] <eigenlambda> hay !help-bot-controllers: plz2create an entry for apt pinning
[07:31] <Pollywog> colbert: konqueror is playing the sound but Firefox does not
[07:31] <mweichert> does anyone know if you can achieve "edge flip to workspace" without xgl?
[07:31] <colbert> Pollywog: Yeah, I get nothing but a frozen firefox lol.. is there some way to change the associations of what plays quicktime inside firefox? That filetype isn't in the list and yo ucan't add anything
[07:31] <Nitro> How do I make my super key work?
[07:31] <eigenlambda> kthxbye
[07:31] <Crazytom> 2.66 ghz p4 fujitsu laptop
[07:31] <rizhun> topgun553: ifconfig -a
[07:31] <grantgm> rizhun: give http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20583.html a try maybe?
[07:31] <Crazytom> grantgm, 2.66 ghz p4 fujitsu laptop
[07:31] <Pollywog> colbert: when I tried it a menu came up with choices of players
[07:31] <zmaster> any one know how i can make the gnome menu more responsive
[07:32] <Crazytom> grantgm, it hangs right here [17179580.368000]  PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 0000:00:02.5
[07:32] <dong> please please answer my questions
[07:32] <CaptainMorgan> !audio
[07:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:32] <Crazytom> dong, it installs grub
[07:32] <topgun553> so the eth0 HWaddr is what I want to put into the linsys admin?
[07:32] <rizhun> yes
[07:32] <dong> thx
[07:33] <dong> can i install it on a already runninng xp system?
[07:33] <logik-bomb> what's the best way to share resources between linux and windows computers (hdd)
[07:33] <dong> an
[07:33] <logik-bomb> samba?
[07:33] <Crazytom> dong, yes
[07:33] <dong> thx, do i need a new partition?
[07:34] <Crazytom> dong, as long as you have some freespace, i think grub can shrink an existing partition too
[07:34] <grantgm> crazytom: are there any ide options in the bios? ahci, perhaps?
[07:34] <Pollywog> colbert: try the mediaplayer connectivity plugin I think that is why I had a choice of players
[07:34] <Pici> Crazytom: I think you mean gparted.  grub is just a bootloader
[07:34] <colbert> Pollywog: Where I get that ?
[07:34] <Pollywog> because I had not seen this before
[07:35] <dong> that would be wonderful. i just dont want to crash my running system, i stil need my files, ok i think mounting and everything works like it always works
[07:35] <dong> thx a lot
[07:35] <Pollywog> colbert: just a sec it is on Firefox's site
[07:35] <topgun553> rizhun, so where do i put that number i got
[07:35] <Crazytom> Pici, sry that's what i meant
[07:35] <colbert> np
[07:35] <JayRott> Hi, I just installed ubuntu today, and it seems to be slower than molasses in January. any suggestions?
[07:35] <Pollywog> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[07:35] <Pollywog> colbert: ^^^
[07:35] <Crazytom> grantgm, i suppose I have the rest of dmesg around that time too if it would help
[07:36] <dong> ah, addtional, does ist have any problems with laptops? like driver problems?
[07:36] <JayRott> I am running  AMD ATHLON XP+ SYSTEM WITH 512 MEGS OF RAM
[07:36] <rizhun> topgun553: I have no idea what you are trying to do with you router...
[07:36] <zuuswa> JayRott, are you running the livecd?
[07:36] <colbert> Pollywog: installed and gonna try it now
[07:36] <Crazytom> grantgm, [17179580.368000]  Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0
[07:36] <JayRott> no, I just installed it on the hard drive
[07:36] <Pollywog> anyone know how to set file associations in Gnome?
[07:36] <topgun553> rizhun, I just want to make it so only I can acess my wirless
[07:36] <JayRott> the cd ran faster it seems
[07:36] <Pollywog> I forgot since I use KDE most of the time
[07:37] <shatrat> JayRott, probably need to install graphics drivers
[07:37] <rizhun> topgun553: Sounds like you're trying to turn on MAC Address Filtering?
[07:37] <colbert> Pollywog: I did that by right clicking on a file like .avi for example and properties, then Open With and choose prog.. then all .avi's open with that choice
[07:37] <Crazytom> topgun553, are you logged into your router?
[07:37] <topgun553> rizhun, Umich is cracking down on RIAA violations and I don't want some idiot with limewire getting my ass in trouble
[07:37] <topgun553> Crazytom, yes
[07:37] <topgun553> rizhun, perhaps??
[07:37] <JayRott> hmm where could I find those, I am new to linux in general
[07:37] <bafoc> Pollywog: Right-click on a file of that type, select properties, go to the "open with" tab, and choose an application. There is no centralized editor AFAIK.
[07:37] <funkja> is there a way to change the places listed in the Places menu of GNOME?
[07:38] <topgun553> Crazytom, Yeah I am logged into right now
[07:38] <Crazytom> topgun553, wireless tab
[07:38] <Pollywog> tnx colbert & bafoc
[07:38] <topgun553> Crazytom, ok there
[07:38] <rizhun> topgun553: Sounds like Crazytom's got it.
[07:38] <Crazytom> topgun553, security tab in there
[07:38] <Horizon> funkja: places just shows your bookmarks, just open nautilus and fiddle with your bookmarks
[07:38] <Pollywog> I think that player plugin for Firefox is what gave me a choice then
[07:38] <estupendocero> So basically either my USB support is hosed, or my USB storage device support is hosed. How do I fix it?
[07:38] <topgun553> Crazytom, ok there
[07:39] <Crazytom> do you see the wireless mac filter tab?
[07:39] <bafoc> Pollywog:  funny how I took your question and google'd it.. and the link to the gnomesupport.org forums came up :-)
[07:39] <topgun553> Crazytom, ehhh no
[07:40] <hoelk> hmm
[07:40] <topgun553> Crazytom, under the Wireless Network Access tab though I found a thign that says
[07:40] <hoelk> is there a cool screensaver for gnome that just randomly displays pictures from your harddisc?
[07:40] <Pollywog> I googled a calculus question yesterday and got just what I was looking for  :)
[07:40] <hoelk> and where to get it?
[07:40] <Gurpartap> congrats on new site!
[07:40] <bafoc> no hint Polly: just figured that for faster resolution to most things distro indepenant, google rocks...
[07:40] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: same problem.. but Ubuntu is starting. maybe i edit the file again
[07:40] <Crazytom> topgun553, http://192.168.1.1/WFilter.htm
[07:41] <topgun553> Crazytom, restrict acess with a whole bunch of empty Mac adress
[07:41] <Shane-S> anyone familiat with synaptic know if I can get perl barcode and PDF parts through it?
[07:41] <Shane-S> trying to install Koha
[07:42] <PriceChild> Gurpartap, you don't know how long i've been waiting for that... thanks for making me notice it :)
[07:42] <Gurpartap> PriceChild, http://www.bearfruit.org/blog/2007/03/14/the-new-ubuntu-website/ :)
[07:42] <topgun553> Crazytom, that link didn't work
[07:42] <topgun553> Crazytom, for me
[07:42] <Crazytom> you want to permit only pcs on the list to access your network then put your mac which looks like this  00:16:B6:EE:02:8E into one of the boxes
[07:42] <topgun553> Crazytom, do I want to mac adress of eth0 or eth1
[07:43] <Crazytom> topgun553, probably eth1
[07:44] <topgun553> Crazytom, Do i take out the colons when entering it?
[07:44] <GionnyBoss> when wireless lan signal goes down on 0%, then the signal doesn't resume and I can't connect even if I go very close to the router where signal is excellent. Is there a way to force Ubuntu to scan again the wireless signal and restore the signal?
[07:45] <GionnyBoss> I have to reboot the system to let it work again, it doesn't just connect again when I move in a place where there is a strong signal.
[07:45] <Crazytom> topgun553, read the box it probably says enter address in "this" format
[07:46] <alumna19> hola
[07:46] <alumna19> algun chile
[07:46] <Crazytom> topgun553, shortanswer no
[07:46] <topgun553> hmm
[07:46] <alumna19> ablan castellano
[07:46] <shatrat> !es | alumna19
[07:46] <ubotu> alumna19: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:46] <topgun553> it wouldn't let me put it in with colons
[07:47] <zmaster> hey all, whats the best video player for ubuntu, the one that gives the sharpest image quality, i used mplayer but the picture looked crappy
[07:47] <topgun553> I entered both eth0 and eth1 mac adress into the Wireless Network Access Tab
[07:48] <Valdebbo> zmaster: mplayer
[07:48] <bafoc> zmaster: I like xine
[07:48] <Valdebbo> What do you mean by "crappy"?
[07:48] <zmaster> it looked fuzzy, not clear /sharp
[07:48] <Valdebbo> Image quality has nothing to do with mplayer itself.
[07:48] <bafoc> but mplayer is good to.
[07:48] <Valdebbo> Ok, I got your point.
[07:48] <Horizon> the new ubuntu site looks too light...I don't mean light in colour
[07:48] <Valdebbo> Change the video codec family then.
[07:48] <bafoc> sure it's not your monitor?
[07:48] <Horizon> I guess it'll go through the usual process of slowly tweaking it
[07:48] <zmaster> nope since in my dual booting windows it looks great
[07:48] <variant> zmaster: they all support filters etc for improving picture quality. vlc is a nice one that is easy to use
[07:49] <Horizon> to make it look best
[07:49] <zmaster> yea i like vlc on windows, might give it a run on ubuntu
[07:49] <Pohket> Anyone know why I'm getting a 'cmds.c: at line 171' whenever I run ftp?
[07:49] <zmaster> thx
[07:49] <Crazytom> I think my laptop hangs during bootup on this line [17179580.368000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]   i have tried booting with the noacpi option but it doesn't change anything
[07:50] <variant> Pohket: sounds like a run time error.. does the ftp work?
[07:50] <Pohket> variant: hangs on that line
[07:50] <variant> Pohket: what command are you using exactly?
[07:50] <dv_> hello
[07:51] <Pohket> variant: just ftp
[07:51] <gumpish> Is there a command that will produce a file of a specified size?
[07:51] <Pohket> well, ftp <ipaddress>
[07:51] <Blackdesert> Is the gnutella network down or something? nothing works today...
[07:51] <dv_> I installed xubuntu, but now I need some functionality from  KDE apps. how bad is it to apt-get kde? I mean, xubuntu-desktop gets uninstalled, what consequences does that have?
[07:51] <variant> Pohket: try updateing the ftp program (apt-get update && apt-get install ftp)
[07:51] <bafoc> Crazytom: try adding acpi=off to the end of your grub.conf kernel line
[07:51] <Pohket> yeah - says I'm at the latest version
[07:52] <chump> hey
[07:52] <variant> dv_: there is nothing bad about it.. what app do you need specifically from kde?
[07:52] <piero> i love xubuntu ;)
[07:52] <Crazytom> bafoc, shouldn't grub.conf be in /etc?  I can't find it there
[07:52] <dv_> variant, kaffeine
[07:52] <bafoc> or when you see the grub splash screen hit a and then a again to append to the line and add the acpi from above
[07:52] <zeekstarr> how can I setup WPA-PSK
[07:52] <variant> dv_: run apt-get install kaffeine
[07:52] <capiira> uhh new site
[07:52] <capiira> nice
[07:53] <Valdebbo> Please give me the channel name of "ubuntu free talk".
[07:53] <Blackdesert> is gnutella down or something? nothing works at the moment..
[07:53] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Valdebbo
[07:53] <dv_> oh it doesnt uninstall xubuntu-desktop then? amazing..
[07:53] <ubotu> Valdebbo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:53] <Valdebbo> Thanks.
[07:53] <variant> dv_: correct
[07:53] <bafoc> !google
[07:53] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[07:53] <capiira> at least they renew their site compared to other distros that still loks like a something from 1994 ;)
[07:53] <bafoc> hehe, cool
[07:53] <bafoc> I like that
[07:53] <bafoc> !google fish
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google fish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <Tcharge> Hi, any ideas how to install Ubuntu on Windows 2000 laptop? Wubi failed to do that.
[07:54] <dv_> variant, but just in case I want to switch desktop for a while (been doing this in the past, xfce, then gnome, then kde, then xfce again....) apt-get kubuntu-desktop is harmless, correct?
[07:54] <chump> i got a 20 gb partition for windows and a 8gb partition for linux .. my home dir is on that 8 gb partition .. is it possible to split my windows partition to move my home dir on it without the need to reinstall linux ?
[07:54] <kleftisx> how can i install Xubuntu and Kubuntu on Ubuntu 6.10 ??
[07:54] <variant> dv_: it will change the boot splash etc to be like kde
[07:54] <jrib> kleftisx: install xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop packages
[07:54] <dv_> variant, yes, but I can change that with galternatives
[07:54] <variant> dv_: to the kubuntu boot splash i mean, yes
[07:54] <bafoc> kleftisx, partition your drive and install each 1 by 1
[07:54] <variant> dv_: there is no harm in doing ti
[07:55] <dv_> good
[07:55] <dv_> thanks :)
[07:55] <variant> dv_: you can still select xfce from the session manager
[07:55] <kleftisx> bafoc: there is no way to install it on ubuntu and choose at the startup with what enviroment to login?
[07:55] <sdac1> hi, I accidently selected "Chooser" in the "Login Window" settings menu of xubuntu.  Now i can't log in.. i get a different startup screen that has something to do with remote login.. any file i can edit to restore regular gdm ?
[07:55] <Crazytom> does ubuntu use a grub.conf file?
[07:56] <PriceChild> Crazytom, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:56] <bafoc> hmm, the last installed OS will have the boot options for each OS installed. I use to do it with Redhat and Windows and Suse all the time
[07:56] <variant> Crazytom: yes, but names menu.lst (same as grub.conf
[07:56] <Crazytom> thanks
[07:56] <_raphael_> how can I make ubuntu link my laptop volume buttons to pcm instead of headphones?
[07:57] <bafoc> variant: thanks.. I totally forgot that.. I'm new convert to ubuntu.. been a redhat guy for along time and all the systems I manager are centOS and fedora
[07:57] <capiira> raphael thats a alsa problem
[07:57] <capiira> its a intel8x0?
[07:57] <deep__> !ftpd
[07:57] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[07:58] <Ademan> would it be possible to mount an ubuntu liveCD ISO and modify it from there? and then burn it?
[07:58] <cypher1_> Ademan, you can install from a LiveCD
[07:58] <Pici> Ademan: What are you trying to do?
[07:59] <jaycie> i was told to check if there is a live cd, im wanting to do a dual boot if i can on this old laptop with xp and 2.10gig free
[07:59] <estupendocero> How do I format a drive completely?
[07:59] <Ademan> Pici: put together a liveCD containing all the tools i want
[07:59] <sha1sum> hey guys.  I was wondering if anyone could help me check compatibility on a new board, cpu, video, and pretty much altogether new system
[08:00] <slacker_nl> Ademan: http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[08:00] <Sergo> Hello, how can i join the ubuntu comunity?
[08:00] <sdac1> no
[08:00] <slacker_nl> Sergo: you just did ;)
[08:00] <jrib> Sergo: welcome :)
[08:00] <sdac1> bye
[08:00] <Sergo> thanks, i want to be a part of ubuntu comunity
[08:00] <Sergo> :)
[08:01] <JayRott> Hi, I just installed ubuntu onto my computer, and it is running incredibly slow. It actually worked faster from the live cd then from my hard drive. Any thoughts?
[08:01] <Ademan> JayRott: is it just the internet that's slow?
[08:01] <kongo102> helo all....
[08:01] <wo0lverine> i think you don't have the good kernel JayRott
[08:01] <h3h_timo> hey guys, reinstalling ubuntu, and i want to also have kde, should i install a seperate partition for kubuntu, or should i just install kde in ubuntu??
[08:01] <JayRott> ademan, no, the internet is very quick, just the operating sytem seems bogged
[08:01] <Ademan> slacker_nl: thanks, that's like a better version of what i'm trying to do, i got past mounting the ISO file, but then everythings in a squashfs thing
[08:01] <jrib> h3h_timo: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[08:02] <JayRott> wo0lverine, what do you mean?
[08:02] <Ademan> JayRott: interesting, go to system->administration->System Monitor  you should be able to see if any one proccess is taking up more cpu than it should
[08:03] <wo0lverine> write "uname -r" in a terminal
[08:03] <JayRott> might take a bit to load lol
[08:03] <jaycie> i was told to check if there is a live cd, im wanting to do a dual boot if i can on this old laptop with xp and 2.10gig free
[08:03] <h3h_timo> jrib: will it run any faster on kubuntu?? or does it matter?
[08:03] <capiira> you can install kde on ubuntu but i would not recommend that because sometimes apps fight for mime types, icons etc,
[08:03] <colbert> Um I just hit CTRL or something to select some files and now my mouse cursor is invisible, how do I get it back ?
[08:04] <h3h_timo> capiira: so should i make a seperate partition for kubuntu?
[08:04] <slacker_nl> capiira: I haven't noticed any strange behaviour
[08:04] <jrib> h3h_timo: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same except ubuntu installs ubuntu-desktop by default which pulls in a bunch of gnome stuff and kubuntu doesn't install ubuntu-desktop, instead it installs kubuntu-desktop which pulls in a bunch of kde stuff.  It's the same operating system
[08:04] <slacker_nl> I have bot gnome and kde
[08:04] <capiira> i would do that just to have a clean system
[08:04] <upd> hi
[08:04] <capiira> but both should work on the same system to
[08:04] <upd> if im root it is possible to see all users password ?
[08:04] <capiira> too
[08:04] <jrib> upd: no
[08:04] <Pici> upd: No.
[08:04] <slacker_nl> udp: no
[08:04] <h3h_timo> capiira: so im gonna manually set up the partitions how should i lay them out
[08:04] <B|nTaRa> !space
[08:04] <upd> ok
[08:04] <upd> :)
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about space - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <JayRott> Nothing seems to be using an insane amout of resources 20mb is about it
[08:05] <jaycie> hello?
[08:06] <capiira> as you need h3h_timo !
[08:06] <variant> h3h_timo: you can just install kde on ubuntu and use either at your whim.. there are no problems associated with doing this
[08:06] <_raphael_> capiira: how do I fix the alsa problem?
[08:06] <sisplau> hi
[08:06] <capiira> sec
[08:06] <JayRott> any other ideas?
[08:06] <capiira> its a intel8x0 ?
[08:06] <variant> h3h_timo: if you still want manual parititon then i find it very usefull to have /home on a seperate partition. this facilitates resinstallation if needed (no need to worry about your personal files when reinstalling)
[08:07] <_raphael_> I think it is a EL80
[08:07] <Tcharge> Any ideas on that - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2270620#post2270620 ? I'm stuck with the same...
[08:07] <jaycie> ubotu u talkin to me?
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u talkin to me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <jaycie> im freezing up Be Back Later
[08:07] <capiira> then check the alsa site!
[08:07] <capiira> i think its  a alsa prob becuase intel8x0 have it too
[08:08] <capiira> but my solution is for intel only
[08:08] <wo0lverine> hey JayRott if you want i can to try to help you in pm if you are register on freenode
[08:08] <_raphael_> capiira: it is an intel
[08:08] <sisplau> hola
[08:08] <cs_> hello could someone help me with my server crashing once a day ? (kernel problem)
[08:08] <capiira> then sec let me search
[08:09] <wo0lverine> i had the same problem.....
[08:09] <Host46> noob question, I'm using and AMD cpu x64, what kernel do you recommend. I'm using linux-image-generic, but I'm not sure if I'm using the kernel optimized for AMD
[08:09] <capiira> i did run alsaconfig
[08:10] <_raphael_> capiira: ok. I`ll try that
[08:10] <Phaqui> How can I make tilda startup everytime I startup ubuntu (or gnome), or how can I start it from the terminal and make it run in the background?
[08:10] <michoelc> Hi all. I am trying to boot ubuntu from a usb-hdd. Works fine on one computer with BIOS support for USB booting (after adding some modules to the initrd), but I would like to use with another PC which doesn't have BIOS support. Can't find much on google, can someone help? TIA
[08:10] <Crazytom> what is HAL?  I disable acpi and my computer doesn't take 10 minutes to boot now but it says failed to initialize hal
[08:10] <capiira> and after that i added options snd_intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only to the sound file in /etc/modprobe.d
[08:10] <Pici> Host46: image-generic is 32bit.  You could use the AMD64 kernel, but you might have some difficulting running some binaries
[08:10] <variant> Host46: it's best to stick iwth a 32bit kernel on 64 bit desktop machines. it does'nt make a great deal of difference to performance and you will have much easyer time with codecs etc
[08:11] <teicah> aptitude search amd64|grep linux
[08:11] <cs_> variant: how do you see if you are running a 32 or 64 bit kernel ?
[08:11] <Host46> variant: i'm not using any 32bit program, execpt one compiled with static libs
[08:11] <variant> Host46: is it a server or desktop?
[08:12] <_raphael_> capiira: except I don`t seem to have alsaconfig
[08:12] <Host46> variant: desktop but for serious use, nothing of flash, games, video
[08:12] <capiira> hmmmm
[08:12] <subMacrolize> I'm having trouble with my iPod, could someone spare a moment to help me?
[08:12] <variant> Host46: ok. still, 64bit makes little difference..
[08:12] <capiira> try sudo alsaconfig
[08:12] <capiira> you need to start it as root
[08:12] <VeganChick> i'm very sad that there is no shockwave for linux...
[08:12] <variant> Host46: < teicah> aptitude search amd64|grep linux tryt hat
[08:13] <Host46> variant:that kernel would permit 32bits static programs?
[08:13] <lavid> VeganChick: there is flash, if that's what you're looking for
[08:13] <variant> Host46: only in a chroot
[08:13] <Host46> variant: ok thx
[08:13] <VeganChick> no, i'm looking for shockwave...i'm glad there's at least flash for linux...
[08:14] <variant> Host46: simplest to just stick with 32bit
[08:14] <capiira> shockwave is old anyway
[08:14] <variant> VeganChick: there is no shockwave implementation for gnu/linux
[08:14] <variant> VeganChick: it is possible to integrate it with wine though
[08:14] <Pici> VeganChick: If you are disappointed contact Adobe with your concerns :/
[08:15] <VeganChick> pici, I signed a petition already :D
[08:15] <Pici> VeganChick: :)
[08:15] <VeganChick> variant, do you have a link for the wine route?
[08:15] <lavid> this is the petition, right? http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?linuxswp
[08:15] <variant> VeganChick: google
[08:15] <Crazytom> what is HAL?  I disabled acpi and my computer doesn't take 10 minutes to boot now but it says failed to initialize hal.
[08:15] <bafoc> Vegan: http://www.ubuntux.org/shockwave-player-ubuntu-linux
[08:16] <variant> VeganChick: http://www.ubuntux.org/shockwave-player-ubuntu-linux
[08:16] <VeganChick> thanks!
[08:17] <OuZo> hi, i am running Ubuntu64 but really need flash. how can i get the 32bit fire fox with flash? thanks
[08:18] <lavid> OuZo: i think automatix will do that for you
[08:18] <bafoc> OuZo: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/plugins/
[08:18] <Pici> !automatix | lavid
[08:18] <ubotu> lavid: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:19] <bafoc> lavid: synaptic is better :-)
[08:19] <william_> Hi all, I've just migrated from WINDOOF to Kubuntu and would like to find a music Program like Logic Audio. Has anyone a suggestion?
[08:19] <lavid> bafoc: i'm with you there
[08:20] <variant> william_: never seen logic audio but amarok is a very nice music manager/player
[08:20] <duggit> hello
[08:20] <lavid> bafoc: but i also know it was a pain to get flash on my 64bit install a few months ago
[08:20] <variant> william_: nm, a quick bit of research shows thats not what your looking for
[08:20] <alumna19> hello
[08:20] <Daffy_Dowden> has anyone got any experience with C and is prepared to answer a basic question on security (about format strings)???
[08:21] <capiira> logic audio is a editor right ?
[08:21] <alumna19> alguien abla espaol
[08:21] <sakharov> yo
[08:21] <sakharov> hola
[08:21] <variant> william_: you will find ardour.org to be what you're looking for i think
[08:21] <alumna19> ola sakharow
[08:21] <bafoc> lavid: yes, 64bit... still don't see the big deal unless your running some major 64bit code compile, or software app that will produce a much faster env
[08:21] <duggit> I'm having trouble - Iam trying to mount an NTFS partition on a laptop harddrive and I don't know what command to use to get it to work
[08:21] <sakharov> de donde eres alumna??
[08:21] <variant> william_: se to get it to work [20:40]  [variant(+ei) (zZzZ)]  [5:#ubuntu(+JLc
[08:22] <variant> william_: oops
[08:22] <alumna19> de chile y tu
[08:22] <capiira> william_: http://ardour.org/ ?
[08:22] <variant> william_: Ardour is a digital audio workstation.
[08:22] <william_> I'varient: Thanks but I don't need a program to organize my musik I need a prog to create music. Logic Audio is a professional prog to create own music
[08:22] <sakharov> jajaja de Quillota
[08:22] <Pici> !es | alumna19
[08:22] <ubotu> alumna19: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:22] <variant> william_: ardour.org
[08:22] <duggit> can someone help?
[08:22] <bafoc> duggit: mount -t ntfs /dev/"hda*" /place/where/you/want/the/mount/to/go
[08:22] <alumna19> eres hombre o mujer
[08:22] <sakharov> o el de chile que es ubuntu-cl
[08:22] <duggit> thanks
[08:22] <capiira> http://ardour.org/files/main-screenshot-big.png
[08:22] <alumna19> que edad tenes
[08:22] <sakharov> hombre
[08:22] <sakharov> 26
[08:22] <bafoc> duggit: type man mount at a command prompt
[08:23] <variant> duggit: instead of doing that it's probably easyer for you to add the disk mounter application to your panel
[08:23] <lavid> ...y se fue
[08:23] <colbert> alumna si usted necessita ayuda creo que chanel #ubuntu-es is para tu
[08:23] <duggit> is that included on the live cd
[08:23] <bafoc> capiira: nice, looks like you want Pro-Tools
[08:23] <variant> duggit: yes
[08:23] <Daffy_Dowden> has anyone got any experience with C and is prepared to answer a basic question on security (about format strings)???
[08:23] <ayelen> hola
[08:23] <lavid> colbert: quieres decir "para ti"
[08:23] <ayelen> speak spanish???
[08:23] <colbert> lavid: typo :)
[08:23] <william_> Variant: thx I'll trie it
[08:24] <variant> Daffy_Dowden: this is an inapropriate channel, try #c
[08:24] <Daffy_Dowden> cheers
[08:24] <TMH_> hi. I want to upgrade from Warty to Edgy. I've changed my sources in /etc/apt/sources.list from warty to edgy, but apt-get dist-upgrade fails with E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[08:24] <Joe_CoT> how do i use sed to rename directories?
[08:24] <TMH_> how can I solve this problem?
[08:24] <Ademan> what does mount -o loop do?    i mean, clearly it does something differently, does it tell mount that it's a file rather than a block device or what?
[08:24] <lavid> colbert: sure... :-p
[08:24] <william_> It seems that it is exactly what I've been looking for
[08:24] <Daffy_Dowden> I don't think there is such a channel
[08:24] <bafoc> Daffy_Dowden: check out http://www.ddj.com/dept/security/197002914
[08:24] <ayelen> spanish please
[08:24] <capiira> there exist something like cubase too
[08:24] <variant> Daffy_Dowden: there is, invite only by the looks of things. try #programming
[08:24] <capiira> rosen garden or so
[08:24] <sakharov> hay mucha gente hablando espaol
[08:24] <Daffy_Dowden> ahh cool
[08:25] <ayelen> hola
[08:25] <ayelen> queria saber
[08:25] <fabio> ola ola !
[08:25] <sakharov> hola ayelen
[08:25] <capiira> http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
[08:25] <capiira> ala cubase
[08:25] <ayelen> como de ubuntu puedo copiar un archivo hacia la computadora principal
[08:25] <variant> william_: good stuff
[08:25] <Crazytom> what is HAL?  I disabled acpi and my computer doesn't take 10 minutes to boot now but it says failed to initialize hal.
[08:25] <lavid> jaja, mira lo que ha pasado aqui
[08:25] <jrantam> Does someone know what is the problem when ndiswrapper says "ndiswrapper (iw_set_ap_address:645): setting AP mac address failed (C0010015)"
[08:25] <bafoc> !hal
[08:25] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[08:25] <fabio> nescesito que alguien me ayude a configugar algo
[08:25] <ayelen> usando la red
[08:25] <fabio> :)
[08:25] <variant> sakharov: try #ubuntu-es
[08:25] <lavid> !es | ayelen
[08:25] <ubotu> ayelen: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:26] <Tcharge> Is it possible to upgrade from Ubunto 6.06 to 6.10 via the Internet?
[08:26] <madsrh> Do I have to format my harddrive before installing Ubuntu or is there an option during the installation that will erase everything?
[08:26] <variant> Tcharge: yes, run update-manager
[08:26] <jrantam> madsrh :yes
[08:26] <bafoc> madsrh: during install
[08:26] <sakharov> esta prohibido hablar espaol por ac???
[08:26] <variant> madsrh: that is the default installer option
[08:26] <lavid> sakharov: ni idea...
[08:26] <madsrh> bafoc, variant -> thanks
[08:26] <rage|work> mysql is filling up /var/log/mysql/ with gigs and gigs worth of files -- how can I restrict how much is allowed to be stored here?
[08:27] <variant> sakharov: #ubunut-es, as you have allready been told, this is an english speaking channel
[08:27] <bafoc> np
[08:27] <lavid> sakharov: parece que si.
[08:27] <sakharov> see
[08:27] <sakharov> o sea si
[08:27] <sakharov> bueno me voy!
[08:28] <jrantam> Does someone know how to fix this.... "ndiswrapper (iw_set_ap_address:645): setting AP mac address failed (C0010015)" ?
[08:28] <jshriver> Greetings
[08:28] <jrantam> i am trying to get wifi work with wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper
[08:28] <jrantam> IPN2220 is my cart
[08:28] <jshriver> anyone know of a program like montage but instead of creating it decomposes to smaller images?
[08:29] <jshriver> trying to split an image with a bunch of sprites into individual files
[08:29] <variant> jshriver: are they all part of the same image? that will be hard without manual work/scripting
[08:29] <CapaH> Question why do I get this when I try to play a DVD: Buffer I/O error on device hdb. logical block 409460 ?
[08:29] <Crazytom> will hal work without apci?
[08:29] <jshriver> yeah.. like a large tiled image and I want to make each tile an individual file
[08:30] <variant> jshriver: good luck :)
[08:30] <jrantam> Does someone know how to fix this.... "ndiswrapper (iw_set_ap_address:645): setting AP mac address failed (C0010015)" ?
[08:30] <jshriver> CapaH: scratch on DVD
[08:30] <sittisal> CapaH: scratch on DVD
[08:30] <jshriver> variant: lol.. well montage will create those kind of files, trying to find the opposite
[08:30] <sittisal> ops
[08:30] <bafoc> jrantam: what chipset wireless device are you using?
[08:30] <CapaH> Really...
[08:30] <variant> CapaH: unless the image contains information about each individual tile (boundaries) you will have a hard time seperating it automatically
[08:30] <variant> jshriver: unless the image contains information about each individual tile (boundaries) you will have a hard time seperating it automatically
[08:30] <jrantam> IPN2220
[08:30] <CapaH> Now uhm, how do I --- eject it? :)
[08:30] <CapaH> I hit the eject button and its not doing anything
[08:30] <CapaH> and the computer itself is frozen
[08:30] <variant> CapaH: eject /dev/dvd
[08:31] <jshriver> variant: but the individual tiles are static sizes.. :) so you can always say for every 16x16pixel chunk make a new file
[08:31] <variant> CapaH: it should spin down after a while (might be a few minnuits
[08:31] <jrantam> I have tried using ndiswrapper with the acer 64 bit driver
[08:31] <matthew1429> hey guys... here's a noob question for anyone who uses firestarter... i've had a lot of shell attempted connects and my terminal said "sudo -u myusername firefox  http://www.fs-security.com/docs/... I know this was probably a command sent to bash from firestarter but what did it do?
[08:31] <jshriver> CapaH: unmount it.. mount will freeze... eventually it'll free up then you can eject
[08:31] <variant> jshriver: thats true, you can probably do it gimp script-fu
[08:31] <bafoc> jrantam: try this link. Just change the info for your chip set http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[08:31] <jshriver> script-fu?
[08:31] <variant> jshriver: gimps scripting language
[08:32] <jrantam> bafoc: ok thanks i ll check
[08:32] <bafoc> jrantam: when you do an lspci what does it say about your wireless card?
[08:32] <jshriver> hrm.. I'll check into it thanks
[08:33] <variant> matthew1429: opened firefox as your user instead of root
[08:33] <Jstuts5797> I have a question about themes. I learned last night that you have to install themes from system>administration>login window. But I'm noticing now that when I log out then log back in the only thing that changes themeing wise is the login screen. Nothing else seems to change. Am I doing something wrong?
[08:33] <matthew1429> okay
[08:33] <bafoc> Jstuts: try system->Prefs->themes
[08:33] <shatrat> Jstuts5797, there are different themes for different parts of the UI, try the themes bafoc mentioned
[08:34] <jrantam> bafoc: what is the exact cmd
[08:34] <matthew1429> i guess i just get paranoid when I see so many attempts.   I have a strong password I just get paranoid that something can happen behind the scenes
[08:34] <bafoc> jrantam: lspci
[08:34] <razzorz> having a few issues with GYach Enhanced...anyone played with it yet?
[08:34] <variant> matthew1429: install denyhosts
[08:34] <jrantam> bafoc: ok thanks :)
[08:34] <bafoc> you may need to run sudo lscpi
[08:34] <gubluntu> anyone know how i can get email upgrade alerts for my ubuntu server?
[08:34] <Rambo3> cron
[08:34] <Jstuts5797> shatrat and bafoc:  well thats what I was originally doing before. But I could never get a new theme to install. I always get "invalid file format" whenever trying to install a theme there.
[08:35] <jrantam> bafoc: Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn]  INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)
[08:35] <gubluntu> Rambo3: can you be more specific?
[08:35] <Seveas> gubluntu, subscribe to the dapper-changes list (or edgy-changes if you run edgy)
[08:35] <gubluntu> or point me in the right direction?
[08:35] <Daantee> hellooooooooooo
[08:35] <gubluntu> Seveas: i am only interested in upgrades to packages currently installed
[08:35] <ucskn> hello kurban
[08:35] <blamethrower> this is my first time using xubuntu... how do i install the nvidia drivers for a 7600GS?
[08:35] <Daantee> uckns are you trk
[08:35] <Daantee> ?
[08:36] <ozgurcocuk> aha geldim
[08:36] <ucskn> no
[08:36] <ucskn> i'm arabian
[08:36] <Daantee> :D
[08:36] <ozgurcocuk> buluntu :D
[08:36] <Daantee> zuahaha
[08:36] <dauoalagio1> hello, it seems as though my toolbar isn't working properly in gnome.  It adds my network-manager and volume control at the start up but doesn't load anymore apps as i do.  for instance the Gaim icon isn't there.  any ideas?
[08:36] <blamethrower> I downloaded the nvidia drivers
[08:36] <ozgurcocuk> :D:D
[08:36] <ucskn> yok lan bi bok olmaz NVIDIADAN
[08:36] <Daantee> benim yarra donwload yap
[08:36] <blamethrower> now when i try to run it using sh
[08:36] <ucskn> ATI drivers like it
[08:36] <ozgurcocuk> ka mb diye sorar imdi
[08:36] <Seveas> gubluntu, then you'd need some cron trick indeed
[08:36] <blamethrower> it says the X system must be dead
[08:36] <blamethrower> before it can continue
[08:37] <Crazytom> will hal work without apci?  can someone help me?
[08:37] <Daantee> olm ne diyo bunlar :D
[08:37] <Seveas> ozgurcocuk, Daantee: english only in here please
[08:37] <ozgurcocuk> svyolar
[08:37] <ozgurcocuk> :D
[08:37] <Daantee> seveas sorry
[08:37] <VeganChick> i'm seeing information for Feisty, but the latest download is edgy...is feisty not released for the public yet?
[08:37] <ozgurcocuk> error verdim ben ya
[08:37] <Daantee> thank you very much sikerim geri ka
[08:37] <Jstuts5797> bafoc: so how do I go about installing themes under system>prefs>themes? Because everytime I've tried before I get "invalid file format"
[08:37] <ozgurcocuk> :F
[08:37] <ucskn> did you use opengl sdks?
[08:37] <sittisal> dauoalagio1: maybe you removed the notification applet
[08:37] <dauoalagio1> sittisal, maybe let me trying adding one
[08:37] <ozgurcocuk> vat is yor neym?
[08:38] <sittisal> but you shouldnt see network manager...
[08:38] <Daantee> :D:D:D
[08:38] <Seveas> ozgurcocuk, english please
[08:38] <ucskn> ozgurcocuk please speak english
[08:38] <Daantee> he sad whats your name seveas
[08:38] <dauoalagio1> sittisal, hahaha, thanks for such an easy fix!
[08:38] <ozgurcocuk> puha
[08:38] <ozgurcocuk> oki
[08:38] <ozgurcocuk> yes
[08:38] <ozgurcocuk> ooo yeah
[08:38] <sittisal> dauoalagio1: np
[08:38] <Daantee> ahhhh yeah
[08:38] <Daantee> come on
[08:38] <Daantee> :D
[08:39] <bafoc> jrantam: try this http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[08:39] <ozgurcocuk> burann ad : buluntu
[08:39] <ozgurcocuk> bulduk
[08:39] <jrantam> bafoc: ok
[08:39] <ucskn> Do you know DASAK dirvers?
[08:39] <Daantee> :D:D:D
[08:39] <dauoalagio1> VeganChick:  gksu "update-manager -c -d" in a terminal
[08:39] <Daantee> maybe they know
[08:40] <blamethrower> do you have to run the nvidia installer before booting?
[08:40] <D--> Quick question. Having problems with xfce4 after last round of updates. xfce4-session is crashing on shutdown and not saving settings, so I am having to manually launch xfdesktop each load. I could toss it in ~/.config/xfce4/xinitrc, but then I lose everything in session. Is there any way to get it into ~/.config/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc manually?
[08:40] <Crazytom> will hal work without apci?  can someone help me? please?
[08:40] <razzorz> has anyone compiled gyach-enhanced b4.... need a tip or two
[08:40] <VeganChick> dauoalagio: is it stable yet?
[08:40] <D--> (asked in #xfce already, looks like nobody's home :( )
[08:41] <razzorz> need some advice for this script..
[08:42] <bafoc> blamethrower: no, you boot your system, then do ctrl+F1 and then type /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then install the driver, then /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:42] <kongo102> hi
[08:42] <jrantam> Is it possible to click links in this chat or do i have to copy everything manually... ??
[08:42] <razzorz> it has not worked for me alot
[08:42] <bafoc> jrantam, all depends on your IRC client
[08:42] <razzorz> but sometimes it does
[08:42] <jrantam> xchat
[08:42] <razzorz> bafoc: got a min?
[08:42] <bafoc> I use Xchat and I can click on links
[08:43] <jrantam> bafoc: ill check settings
[08:43] <VeganChick> I'm using Gaim and can click on links
[08:43] <imacoolkid> Is there any way I can permanently export an environment variable?  I need to set 2 for a software I use but I need to re do it every time I close terminal.
[08:43] <razzorz> bafoc:
[08:44] <razzorz> sorry ineed to register
[08:44] <razzorz> amsn?
[08:44] <ponsfrilus> Hi all... Anyone know which CMS is running ubuntu.com?
[08:44] <bafoc> imacoolkid: yes, edit .bashrc in your homedir or edit .bash_profile ( but that only works if your using the bash shell)
[08:44] <krang> So is it just me, or will Firefox always crash after a few days of use with 15-30 windows?
[08:44] <VeganChick> 15-30 windows? hah
[08:44] <bafoc> krang: lol, don't know never had that many open at one time
[08:44] <Seveas> krang, I'm not surprised if it always does that :)
[08:45] <ponsfrilus> Anyone knows which CMS is running ubuntu.com and when did they change the site?
[08:45] <imacoolkid> bafoc: I'm in it right now, where do I add the export command?
[08:45] <jdaiker> does anybody else know why gnome-system-monitor is so slow to startup?
[08:45] <N3WB> Anyone know where to get Xlibs.deb?
[08:45] <krang> Dagnabbit, that's annoying. It eats all of my memory, which I let it do, then shows gratitude for such a sumptuous meal like that. Dastardly.
[08:45] <bafoc> imacoolkid: type export BLAH="whatever you want like a path"
[08:45] <VeganChick> i didn't even notice the website changed! it must've been quite recently
[08:45] <ponsfrilus> yu
[08:45] <imacoolkid> bafoc: Though, where in the file?
[08:46] <ponsfrilus> I think a Drupal like but I'm not sure
[08:46] <razzorz> bafoc: looks like a task to register my nic..lol
[08:46] <Crazytom> will hal work without apci?  can someone help me? please?
[08:46] <DiMiX> Hi, how can I join ufuntu-fr ?
[08:46] <dooglus> imacoolkid: put it in ~/.bashrc
[08:46] <AMD> any way to cd to a fiel with out having to type the full name
[08:46] <AMD> i have cd to /tmp
[08:47] <dooglus> AMD: put "alias x='cd /tmp'" in your .bashrc
[08:47] <bafoc> /home/"your username/.bashrc
[08:47] <RudyValencia> How do I setup the universe repository in Ubuntu 6.06 server?
[08:47] <dooglus> AMD: then you can just run 'x' instead of 'cd /tmp'
[08:47] <N3WB> Anyone know where to get Xlibs.deb?
[08:47] <dooglus> N3WB: what is it?
[08:47] <jrantam> bafoc: ill read your link and ... ill try with other ndiswrapper
[08:47] <AMD> dooglus:
[08:47] <AMD> hi
[08:47] <dooglus> AMD:
[08:47] <dooglus> hi
[08:47] <bafoc> jrantam: ok cool
[08:47] <mat89> How can I shut down X
[08:47] <razzorz>  /msg nickserv link <RazzoR> <killkill>
[08:47] <razzorz> lol
[08:48] <razzorz> well that did not work
[08:48] <AMD> i dont have a issue with typeing cd /tmp
[08:48] <N3WB> for VLC
[08:48] <AMD> i want to get to a file in  "tmp"
[08:48] <razzorz> bafco:
[08:48] <razzorz> sorry to pester ya
[08:48] <dooglus> get to it?
[08:48] <Dane1> Howdy, all :-)  I've been having a problem with browsing Windows shares from a Dapper box (using Nautilus).  I can browse by workgroup and computer name fine as root, but I can only browse by IP address as any other user.  Any ideas?
[08:48] <bafoc> razzorz: now you need to save the file, and type source ~/.bashrc
[08:48] <dooglus> AMD: I'm sure there's a way of doing what you want, if only you could tell us what that might be...
[08:49] <AMD> can i then type a sort name for the file
[08:49] <razzorz> save what file?
[08:49] <dooglus> AMD: does it have a long name?
[08:49] <AMD> dooglus yes
[08:49] <dooglus> AMD: do you know about the TAB key in bash?
[08:49] <N3WB> Anyone know where to get Xlibs.deb its for VLC Media Player?
[08:49] <AMD> no
[08:50] <RudyValencia> wait, nvm
[08:50] <AMD> mabe "cd conn" intead of cd Connection
[08:50] <dooglus> AMD: type the first few letters of the name, then hit tab
[08:50] <Dane1> N3WB: have you searched for it on google?  sometimes you can even download it via HTTP.
[08:50] <N3WB> Yes i have
[08:50] <dooglus> AMD: you have to get the case right, but yes
[08:50] <AMD> dooglus:thans the one
[08:50] <N3WB> i have had to download allready 2 packages from HTTP
[08:50] <Dane1> hmmm.  Sorry, no ideas then.
[08:50] <bafoc> razzorz: I'm PM'ing you
[08:50] <ladonna> making progress in wifi card still need help. any takers?
[08:50] <razzorz> i know
[08:50] <razzorz> bafco: [12:50]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[08:50] <dooglus> AMD: thans?
[08:51] <ladonna> if you like a challenge then you will want to help with this one
[08:51] <razzorz> bafco:i am trying to pm you back
[08:51] <razzorz> but i get that
[08:51] <AMD> dooglus:i meant thats the one !!
[08:51] <Ademan> !virtualize
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <imacoolkid> Alright... I still need to manually export each time.  This is m .bashrc at the top: http://pastebin.ca/396465
[08:51] <bafoc> razzorz: in your xchat type /msg nickserv register "apasswordyouwant"
[08:51] <StoneNote> N3WB, you sure you don't mean xlibs-dev ?
[08:51] <Ademan> anyone know what the "best" way to run another os within ubuntu is at the moment? (i know kvm is comming)
[08:51] <dooglus> AMD: did this fix your problem?
[08:52] <bafoc> Ademan: Vmare
[08:52] <StoneNote> with a "-" and a "v"
[08:52] <bafoc> ooops
[08:52] <N3WB> idk whatever that works
[08:52] <bafoc> Vmware
[08:52] <AMD>  dooglus: worked like a charm
[08:52] <dooglus> AMD: oh, good :)
[08:52] <deep__> Is there no good ftpserver?
[08:52] <ladonna> anyone know were I can go for wifi card installation procedures for newbies
[08:52] <N3WB> VLC Package says XLibs
[08:53] <AMD> thanks
[08:53] <imacoolkid> Alright... I still need to manually export each time.  This is m .bashrc at the top: http://pastebin.ca/396465
[08:53] <ladonna> anyone here using a wifi card?
[08:53] <Rambo3> N3WB, use synaptic
[08:53] <deep> !anyone | ladonna
[08:53] <ubotu> ladonna: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:53] <Jstuts5797> Ok, how do I theme or "skin" my entire Ubuntu system? Like I want my wallpaper, desktop, icons, fonts, color, and everything to change?
[08:53] <bafoc> you shouldn't have to
[08:53] <wapityyy> synaptic ftw
[08:53] <ponsfrilus> Anyone knows which CMS is running http://www.ubuntu.com and when did they change the site?
[08:53] <imacoolkid> Alright... I still need to manually export each time.  This is m .bashrc at the top: http://pastebin.ca/396465
[08:54] <razzorz>  /msg nickserv identify killkill
[08:54] <razzorz>  /msg nickserv identify
[08:54] <ladonna> are there any pricks in here, oh wait I know the anser to that one
[08:54] <N3WB> rambo3 > No internet on Ubuntu computer -.-
[08:54] <PriceChild> razzorz, please change your password
[08:54] <imacoolkid> ponsfrilus: It's indeed drupal
[08:54] <razzorz> ya ya
[08:54] <ladonna> deep: can you assist in a rtl chipset install on edgy
[08:54] <imacoolkid> ponsfrilus: "<style type="text/css" media="all">@import "/misc/drupal.css";"
[08:54] <duggit> ok so I typed "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=000" and it returns this:
[08:54] <duggit> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[08:55] <ponsfrilus> imacoolkid:. how do you know that ? CSS?
[08:55] <I3ooI3oo> ikonia : you around today ?
[08:55] <Dane1> ladonna: first, please don't be negative.  second, have you searched the net?
[08:55] <deep> ladonna: i don't even know what an "rtl chipset" is (:
[08:55] <imacoolkid> ponsfrilus: View the page source, it uses drupal
[08:55] <duggit> I dont know what to do
[08:55] <ponsfrilus> I see that, but it's just a css
[08:55] <Dane1> ladonna: realtek?  you need to use ndiswrapper with the Windows drivers.
[08:55] <imacoolkid> ponsfrilus: What does it matter to you anyway? All major CMS (Drupal, E107, Joomla) are pretty well feature equivelent
[08:55] <Crazytom> ladonna, where are you at?
[08:55] <duggit> any help?
[08:56] <deep> duggit: You'r trying to mount an ntfs-device, i guess? :)
[08:56] <ladonna> deep: yes, I have searched for two weeks now, i can send a long list of links and howtos that i have tried to follow. i was on here earlier for a while as well
[08:56] <ponsfrilus> imacoolkid: I'm just curious and I like to know that
[08:56] <duggit> yes
[08:56] <imacoolkid> ponsfrilus: On top of that, drupal auto generates drupal.css, there's no reason why it would be anything else.  I could search more
[08:56] <ponsfrilus> imacoolkid: ok that's fine
[08:56] <deep> ladonna: <> Dane1
[08:56] <ladonna> deep: im not sure what RTL is either its what is listed on the card. since lspci does not give any useful info
[08:56] <imacoolkid> How do I permanently export an environment variable?
[08:57] <ponsfrilus> imacoolkid that's what I tought indeed
[08:57] <duggit> any ideas?
[08:57] <Crazytom> ladonna, did you install fwcutter?
[08:57] <I3ooI3oo> ladonna: wifi card ?
[08:57] <bafoc> duggit: I don't believe unless you complied it in yourself that the kernel out of the box supports mounting ntfs partitions. and if it does it's readonly
[08:57] <duggit> how do i find out the "hda1" or whatever it is label for the partition
[08:57] <deep> ladonna: what type of card is it, exactly?
[08:57] <ladonna> deep: ive tried ndiswrapper with bcmwl5 as well as the drivers on the cd both XP and 98
[08:57] <imacoolkid> !environment variable
[08:57] <Dane1> ladonna: I have done it using a Linksys PCMCIA wireless card.  You need to look up a how-to on installing ndiswrapper for ubuntu.  I know there are some out there.  Then, copy the windows drivers to your hard drive and set ndiswrapper to use them.
[08:57] <deep> ladonna: I'm pretty sure you'r smarter then me. (:
[08:57] <duggit> ntfs package is installed
[08:57] <l90bpm> is there a way to access bookmarks between root and non-root users?
[08:58] <ladonna> deep: belkin f5d7000 ver.7000
[08:58] <deep> duggit: ls /dev/ | grep hd :)
[08:58] <I3ooI3oo> bafoc : it does support ntfs and it is read only
[08:58] <pros1> or dmesg | grep hd
[08:58] <duggit> readonly is ok
[08:58] <duggit> thanks guys
[08:58] <bafoc> I3ooI3oo: funny edgy doesn't come that way.. I looked at the .config for the kernel..
[08:58] <imacoolkid> How can I permanently export an environment variable so I don't need to manually export it every time I run a program?
[08:59] <I3ooI3oo> ok i installed one last night that did
[08:59] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: u there dude?
[08:59] <deep> duggit: there is a package called "ntfs-3g", you can install that, then switch "-t ntfs" to "-t ntfs-3g", then you have read / write ;)
[08:59] <dooglus> imacoolkid: you can stick it in your .bashrc if you want it set when you're running shells
[08:59] <jdaiker> gnome-system-monitor, anybody?
[08:59] <duggit> ooo~ Im getting closer!
[08:59] <Tuxfan20> Once when I was like 9 years old, me and my friend lured a cat near us, cuddled it a little and then WOOSH threw sand and tiny rocks at it. It scared so hard we couldn't stop laughing and I think I even got a boner that time. And I guess my friend did too.
[08:59] <dooglus> deep: I tried using ntfs-3g to copy a CD image from linux to windows last night.  it's still copying now.
[08:59] <variant> matthew1429: on/lastlog variant
[08:59] <deep> duggit: :D
[08:59] <dooglus> deep: > 1 day for 700MB isn't good speed.
[09:00] <variant> doh
[09:00] <duggit> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[09:00] <duggit> mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[09:00] <duggit> hmm
[09:00] <Jstuts5797> bafoc: what do you mean I shouldn't have to? The only thing I'm finding are themes for the login window, or wallpaper, or icons... all seperate. I was wanting one theme that will change everything all at once. Is that possible and if so what exactly should I search for? Skins?
[09:00] <ladonna> deep: let me rephrase, i have ndiswrapper installed, i have followed the instructions for loading the drivers, blacklisting bcmXX modprobe and everything involved. I have tried several drivers all of which do not work. That is why I thought my card isnt using a broadcom chipset
[09:00] <deep> dooglus: hah, something is seriously wrong there. I've used ntfs-3g for quite awhile, i've had no problem whatsoever (:
[09:00] <ted__> Hi. For some odd reason whenever I run update manager and select to download them, it fails to connect to the repositores and times out after about 30 seconds. Yet my connection is fine, as you can see. Any ideas?
[09:00] <dooglus> deep: did you try copying a large file?
[09:00] <bafoc> jstuts: try gnome-look.org
[09:00] <variant> Jstuts5797: that does not currently exist, the next version, feisty will include something along those lines
[09:01] <Crazytom> ladonna, did you install fwcutter?
[09:01] <Jstuts5797> bafoc: I tried gnome-look but the only thing those themes over there seem to change is my login screen.
[09:01] <deep> ladonna: I'm sorry, but i dont think i can help you ;(
[09:01] <ladonna> crazytom: yes i installed
[09:01] <Xtyn> does anyone have any ideea how to make an internet connection with a cdma phone?
[09:01] <ladonna> deep: i didnt mean to be negative, thanks for your help
[09:01] <deep> dooglus: i've copied quite alot of stuff, including 4.3 gig images (: Working fine :)
[09:02] <Crazytom> ladonna ok so what is it doing now?  anything different?
[09:02] <gekkoo> how do i import my thunderbird mails in kmail?
[09:02] <l90bpm> anyone?  is there a way to access my bookmarks from non-root to root users and vice versa?
[09:02] <dooglus> deep: strange.  it works fine for me, too, but very very slowly.  it hardly touches the disk, spends all the time burning CPU
[09:02] <ladonna> Crazytom: the same if you need specifics I can give
[09:02] <Jstuts5797> variant: Ok that was what I was wanting to know. So basically I have to theme everything seperate and hope it all matches.
[09:02] <deep> dooglus: that is strange, yeah. ;(
[09:03] <ladonna> Crazytom: i also tried to install madwifi, ran into some errors on install
[09:03] <deep> dooglus: right now i have a 250 gig ntfs drive in my ubuntuserver computer, running a sambaserver, mounted on this computer. I can copy / delete / make all without any problems at all.
[09:04] <deep> dooglus: _not_ taking alot of time / cpu (:
[09:04] <VeganChick> Is Feisty relatively stable right now?
[09:04] <Tuxfan20>     i hit a metallic mailbox doing about 45 mph in my girlfriend's car and left it in a field. i haven't spoken to her since.
[09:04] <variant> VeganChick: no
[09:04] <teo_> ao
[09:04] <teo_> ce state
[09:04] <variant> VeganChick: it's not bad. I haven't had any crashes at all but some programs don't work correctly or at all sometimes
[09:04] <Crazytom> ladonna, have you done a iwconfig?
[09:04] <boci^> Hmm how can I use xfs_growfs and parted for reduce the root partition in live system?
[09:04] <pros1> relative to an undetonated hunk of C4, yes very stable
[09:05] <RDUBBALO> how do i connect to a certain sever
[09:05] <VeganChick> So I shouldn't use it until it comes out in April? I'm installing Ubuntu on a parition of my Macbook, I don't want to lose my whole computer...
[09:05] <variant> VeganChick: yes, wait till it is released
[09:05] <VeganChick> Ok, thanks!
[09:06] <RDUBBALO> how can i connnect to a certain server?
[09:06] <ladonna> Crazytom: lo  no wireless extensions. eth0  no wireless extensions. sit0  no wireless extensions.
[09:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> Is there a way I can check to see if a file descriptor is being written to?
[09:06] <deep> I need an ftpserver with only 3 users, one for me accessing the whole computer, one anon, and one for a folder with some symlinks to different places. Anyone got some tips? (:
[09:06] <Seveas> RDUBBALO, what kind of server?
[09:06] <I3ooI3oo> rdubblo: for what ?
[09:06] <Crazytom> ladonna, it didn't even show up?
[09:06] <RDUBBALO> irc.freenode.net
[09:06] <I3ooI3oo> this is freenode
[09:06] <RDUBBALO> oh
[09:06] <deep> Aaaw :D
[09:07] <ladonna> Crazytom: no even after everything i have tried this is the same result
[09:07] <RDUBBALO> i want this channel #winehq
[09:07] <I3ooI3oo>  try /join #winehq
[09:07] <RDUBBALO> where do i do that
[09:07] <I3ooI3oo> where are you typing now
[09:07] <huckster> Did Samba change the name of one of it's packages from Samba-Server to just Samba?
[09:08] <ladonna> Crazytom: if this card does not use the broadcom chipset then my options are use a linux driver if avail or use madwifi, is this correct?
[09:08] <johnrose> hi - this the appropriate venue for a newbie install question?
[09:08] <variant> johnrose: yes
[09:08] <Narb> Anyone know where to get Xlibs.deb its for VLC Media Player?
[09:08] <Seveas> RDUBBALO, /join #winehq
[09:08] <compilerwriter2> will a 64 bit processor put a kink into xming?
[09:09] <ladonna> Crazytom:even if it isnt a broadcom chipset should i be able to use ndiswrapper with the native driver?
[09:09] <Crazytom> as far as i know ndiswrapper works with other than broadcom chipsets
[09:09] <duggit> mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[09:09] <duggit> What am I supposed to do now? I cant find the partition
[09:09] <johnrose> perfect!  I'm installing 6.10 on a x86 machine with an existing Fedora partition.  I'd like to dual boot.  Will the grub installation automatically detect the existing Linux partition, or is there more tinkering I should do?
[09:09] <mhemu> i installed the gnome network manager on top of the regular network manager. Now, every time my computer boots up the keyring password manager asks for a password in order to connect to my wireless network even though the key ring already has my password for the network in it. My question is, how do i get the keyring to stop asking me for a password and to just allow the wireless connection automatically?
[09:09] <dyrne> Narb: if thats just a lib you shouldnt need a installer package right just drop it in vlc's folder
[09:09] <compilerwriter2> 1
[09:09] <Seveas> 2
[09:10] <Seveas> mhemu, feisty?
[09:10] <pros1> You can always tweak grub after the install
[09:10] <pros1> grub is easy
[09:10] <mhemu> Seveas, edgy
[09:10] <ladonna> Crazytom: when i loaded the native driver with ndiswrapper/ ndiswrapper -l listed the driver as present. but i was still unable to configure and connect
[09:10] <pros1> in the /boot directory
[09:10] <Crazytom> ladonna, yes u should be able to use ndiswrapper with the windows driver
[09:10] <Seveas> mhemu, in that case: not possible
[09:10] <Seveas> if you were running feisty, you could have installed libpam-keyring
[09:11] <mhemu> Seveas, there's no way around it? i can't make a script or something to automatically enter it?
[09:11] <ladonna> Crazytom: im thinking of doing a clean install, starting from scratch. do you have any advise......
[09:11] <Seveas> mhemu, you could try backporting libpam-keyring but that's not recommended
[09:11] <johnrose> pros1: thanks.  to append my question, do I allow grub to overwrite the MBR?  And will the /boot in question be on the existing Fedora partition hda2, or the new ubuntu in hda3?
[09:11] <ladonna> Crazytom: ......just the wireless configuration part
[09:11] <|NewUser|> After grub editing i open ubuntu but something problem .. x server are not starting auto.. and when i open startx my self there is no updated Ubuntu means all menus is going default
[09:11] <eck> mhemu: it probably wouldn't be too hard to compile it, it's just a pam module
[09:11] <gumpa> Howdy. I do many Edgy installs. How can I burn a CD with updates since the install CD, cut down on the download time?
[09:12] <Crazytom> ladonna
[09:12] <Crazytom> ladonna, hold on for a sec
[09:12] <mhemu> previously, i didn't have the gnome network manager and just played with the config files to automatically connect to my network, but that didn't allow me to easily join other networks without going through the config files each time...
[09:12] <ladonna> Crazytom: ok
[09:12] <LightCatcher> How do I change the options for the screensavers? Or do they not have any options?
[09:12] <Crazytom> anyone know how to check if firmware for a wireless card is installed?
[09:12] <mhemu> eck, i'm an ubuntu noob....dunno how to compile things
[09:12] <mhemu> Seveas, i don't even know what that means, so i guess you're right
[09:13] <eck> mhemu: it's in the NM goals for future releases to allow NM to store the keys for certain APs without prompting for a password, but it hasn't been implemented yet
[09:13] <eck> for now you'd have to use the pam module
[09:13] <garfield9> hey guys...question about GRUB and my MBR
[09:13] <AnxiousCo> hello
[09:13] <I3ooI3oo> backporting = to chage software to run a version older that the one it was made for.
[09:14] <mhemu> eck, is that difficult to do, to use the pam module?
[09:14] <PirateHead> Does anybody know when the new version of Inkscape will be a "recommended update" for Ubuntu users?
[09:14] <PirateHead> I would like to be able to upgrade without going outside of the normal Ubuntu package.
[09:14] <Crazytom> come-on guys firmware for wireless card?  how to check if it's installed? please
[09:14] <johnrose> garfield: i'm asking similar questions :)
[09:15] <johnrose> garfield9: ^
[09:15] <eck> i haven't compiled it, but i'd imagine it's not too difficult
[09:15] <Herrelol> I got the error 17 when loading grub, tried reinstalling but that didn't help, could it be because the disc I'm installing to is the slave disc?
[09:15] <eck> i think it just installs one .so file, so you can easily remove it later
[09:15] <guerby> hi, what does mean: The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[09:16] <guerby> (this is on feisty)
[09:16] <eck> guerby: it means you need to dist-upgrade to get them
[09:16] <PirateHead> !feisty | guerby
[09:16] <ubotu> guerby: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:16] <XelHa> my laptop (with Ati Radeon Xpress 200M) doe not recognise the native resolution 1280*800, it only works at 1024*768. what to do now?
[09:16] <ladonna> Crazytom: i appreciate it but i have already tried this howto, is it possible that the problem lies somewhere else?
[09:16] <mhemu> eck, i'd rather not go messing around with stuff i don't know much about. I guess i'll just deal with the password nag on each boot. thanks for the help!
[09:16] <guerby> eck, dist-upgrade show the same message
[09:16] <Ademan> !xen
[09:16] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:16] <Crazytom> ladonna try iwlist eth1 scan
[09:17] <mhemu> any ideas when the upgrade will come out with this new thingy you're refering to eck?
[09:17] <eck> guerby: try apt-get install then
[09:17] <Herrelol> XelHa: Did you try installing the drivers from ati?
[09:17] <ladonna> Crazytom: eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning.
[09:17] <PirateHead> XelHa: got System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution, and see if your native resolution is listed in the drop-down there.
[09:17] <johnrose> so, my questions are 1) will Ubuntu ask before overwriting my MBR and 2) should I just let it overwrite the MBR, assuming the other partition will be okay
[09:17] <PirateHead> XelHa: That is, go to system -> ...
[09:18] <eck> mhemu: the pam module will be in feisty, i'm not sure when the other functionality will be incorporated in NM (not by the time feisty comes out anyway)
[09:18] <pabst> Are there problems using an ATI Mobility Fire GL Video Card with Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[09:18] <mhemu> fiesty is the newer than edgy i'm assuming? (for some reason i thought it was between edgy and dapper, not after edgy...)
[09:18] <Crazytom> ladonna, I had these same problems and when I installed the firmware it cleared up
[09:18] <XelHa> PirateHead: yes, the resolution is listed but when I try to use it the display gets distorted. it is not usable. the right part of the screen appears on the left, etc.
[09:18] <eck> feisty is the next release (coming out in april)
[09:19] <PirateHead> XelHa: that sounds wierder than anything I've seen. :-(
[09:19] <garfield9> johnrose: question similar to yours that maybe you can help me with....if I get rid of GRUB and re-write my MBR using the WinXP Recovery Console...will all the partition info on my drive be lost?
[09:19] <ladonna> Crazytom  was this the firmware bcm43xx-fwcutter
[09:19] <mhemu> eck, is it easy upgrading to new releases from existing ones, or is it better to just do a clean install?
[09:19] <AnxiousCowboy> excuse me, * Install the driver provided by ati included in the repositories:, how does one do this?
[09:19] <pros1> Has Anyone here successfully gotten beryl to run on an ati card?
[09:19] <Rambo3> hateyla, ?
[09:19] <AnxiousCowboy> where do I find the repositories?
[09:19] <PirateHead> XelHa: do you know by chance whether the problem is specific to Ubuntu?
[09:20] <variant> pros1: me
[09:20] <ladonna> Crazytom  does the BCM mean that it is a broadcom chipset?
[09:20] <Lilandra> hey all, i have a problem with xubuntu (but i uninstalled xfce and am running icewm, so is it xubuntu anymore?)
[09:20] <johnrose> garfield9: no, but your linux partition won't show up as a boot option
[09:20] <garfield9> ladonna: yes BCM means broadcom
[09:20] <Herrelol> garfield9: The winXP recovery erases everything in the mbr, if that's what you were wondering about
[09:20] <pros1> variant: did it throw you errors at first?
[09:20] <PirateHead> Lilandra: are you using Gnome or Xfce?
[09:20] <PirateHead> Lilandra: IceWM, nvmd.
[09:20] <XelHa> PirateHead: it might be, I've seen a report on SuSE wiki claiming that video works. I'll dig the link.
[09:20] <PirateHead> Lilandra: We can try to help you, but no guarantees. =D
[09:21] <Crazytom> yes that's firmware but for broadcom i don't think it will work for you
[09:21] <Lilandra> heh
[09:21] <Dane1> Anybody know how to get Windows network browsing in Nautilus to work properly (ie. can browse by workgroup and by computer name) as a non-root user?
[09:21] <AnxiousCowboy> does the command "sudo apt-get update" install something in the repository?
[09:21] <Lilandra> PirateHead, I installed opera and now all my links from thunderbird etc open automatically in opera and not firefox. How do I change that? Is there a config file somewhere?
[09:21] <hateyla> how can i chk where is the kernel in which path?
[09:21] <ladonna> Crazytom  okay, i think this card might not be a broadcom. the chip on the card has a RTL on it
[09:21] <garfield9> Herrelol: yeah...that's what I was wondering about...so I will not be able to boot linux but I will not lose the partition info on my drive?
[09:21] <Rambo3> AnxiousCowboy, no
[09:21] <PirateHead> XelHa: If it's Ubuntu-specific, make sure to submit a bug to the Launchpad tracker asking the developers which files, specs, etc you should send in. I'm sure they would be interested in making native screen resolution Just Work for you.
[09:21] <compilerwriter2> Anyone know if xming can be made to work with 64bit processors?
[09:21] <eck> mhemu: i would just upgrade, i've done it twice now without any problems
[09:21] <AnxiousCowboy> How do I then? where do I access this? via terminal?
[09:22] <ted__> Hi. For some odd reason whenever I run update manager and select to download them, it fails to connect to the repositores and times out after about 30 seconds. Yet my connection is fine, as you can see. Any ideas?
[09:22] <ladonna> Crazytom  does this suggest that this belkin device uses a different chipset?
[09:22] <Herrelol> garfield9: You can recover grub with a bootable linux disc
[09:22] <Crazytom> can you msg me your ifconfig eth1 output and iwconfig eth1 output?
[09:22] <PirateHead> Lilandra: simply opening firefox ought to give you that option. At least, it does on Windows -- I never had another browser on Linux, so I have never had that come up. =D
[09:22] <Rambo3> !apt > AnxiousCowboy
[09:22] <XelHa> PirateHead: http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Laptops/Medion claims that it works, my model is the last on the list, the MD97300
[09:22] <PirateHead> Lilandra: if that does not work, there's a foolproof GUI menu to fix that up for you.
[09:22] <mhemu> eck, so it's not like with a windows based install where upgrading usually causes slow downs and problems?
[09:22] <Lilandra> hmmm...PirateHead, maybe I need to make it check for default browser. I'm not sure if it's there
[09:22] <AnxiousCowboy> I type !apt in terminal?
[09:22] <garfield9> Herrelol: I'm not worried about linux right now...I plan on re-installing it on a clean drive...it's my WinXP files that I'm afraid to lose
[09:23] <Rambo3> !apt | AnxiousCowboy
[09:23] <ubotu> AnxiousCowboy: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:23] <Herrelol> No, your windows xp files will be fine
[09:23] <eck> mhemu: that's correct, when feisty is released there will be some graphical tool that will do the apt-get dist-upgrade and handle any other things that might be incompatible
[09:23] <PirateHead> XelHa: if you have fast internet and are in no big hurry, I'd be interested to see what happens screen-wise if you download an OpenSUSE LiveCD and boot it up.
[09:23] <garfield9> Herrelol: awesome...thanks
[09:23] <eck> that's how it was with dapper -> edgy anyway
[09:23] <Herrelol> I have never managed to ruin any windows files with the recovery console
[09:23] <Herrelol> And I have used that quite a few times
[09:23] <Lilandra> PirateHead, it doesn't check
[09:24] <AnxiousCowboy> !Synaptic
[09:24] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:24] <Herrelol> Anyways, back to me =P
[09:24] <mhemu> eck, awesome! i'm liking ubuntu more and more...a lot easier to use than the debian distro i tried 6 or 7 years ago!
[09:24] <PirateHead> Lilandra: the GUI menu you want to tweak is in System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[09:24] <AnxiousCowboy> so by * Install the driver provided by ati included in the repositories: they mean just go in the package manager and find it?
[09:24] <Lilandra> PirateHead, I'm sure I tried that when I had xubuntu and it wouldn't take but...i'll see if such a menu is in icewm
[09:25] <ladonna> Crazytom  if i install ndiswrapper, load the native drivers and find the firmware for this device, then everything should work as advertised correct?
[09:25] <PirateHead> Lilandra: forgot you were using IceWM. I have never used that window manager, so I have no clue how it works. =D
[09:25] <PirateHead> Lilandra: I've heard good things about it performance-wise, though.
[09:25] <XelHa> PirateHead: this laptop can also boot a smal linux with an media player (from cyberlink). in there the display is OK. and they offer the X.org source code. I'll give OpenSuse a try as well, but it will take a little time
[09:25] <Rambo3> AnxiousCowboy, read on synaptic how to enable universe repos
[09:25] <Crazytom> ladonna, theoretically
[09:25] <Herrelol> I tried installing ubuntu 4.10 (because my intarwebs was broke and that was the only cd I found), and I got the grub error 17 on after installing it. I tried re-installing and got the same error, so my question is: Could this be because the os partition is on the slave hd?
[09:25] <Lilandra> PirateHead, you'd think there was a file to edit somewhere. I actually am liking ion3 but need time to learn it
[09:25] <SlickRich> hey guys, I'm trying to play enemy territory but can't get any sound, I'm getting the error "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy". does anyone have any suggestions?
[09:25] <Crazytom> ladonna, find your card here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[09:26] <PirateHead> XelHa: yeah, the download will definitely take a little time. In the meantime, I'm not a display guru, so I have no good suggestions for you.
[09:26] <Rambo3> !repos | AnxiousCowboy
[09:26] <ubotu> AnxiousCowboy: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:26] <XelHa> PirateHead: thanks anyway! I'll make sure I fill in a bug report on launchpad.
[09:26] <Crazytom> ladonna, what is the model of your card again?
[09:26] <PirateHead> Lilandra: the fun thing about Linux is I can hunt for hours for the right configuration file and never find it. They aren't always in the most intuitive places.
[09:27] <Kyle___> does anyone know what room i can go to for information about ubuntu studio?
[09:27] <PirateHead> XelHa: I hope they find a cause and fix for the bug. Display problems are the pits.
[09:27] <Lilandra> PirateHead, *sigh* i've been hunting :( i'm still trying to figure out why my computer would not have mutt installed but the default icewm theme would link to it
[09:27] <ladonna> Crazytom  belkin wireless g ver.7000 part#F5D7000
[09:28] <PirateHead> Lilandra: too bad you didn't decide that you liked Opera better anyway, or it wouldn't be a problem. =P
[09:28] <Lilandra> PirateHead: all my profiles are on firefox! and it's portable to my osx pc too...are opera profiles portable? it feels nicer on linux than the last time i used it on osx
[09:29] <AnxiousCowboy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? - What does this mean?
[09:29] <Lilandra> PirateHead: and greasemonkey scripts..it's all set up the way i like :(
[09:29] <mhemu> Lilandra, opera profiles should be portable, though i've never tried to do it myself
[09:29] <ladonna> Crazytom  couldnt find a F5D7000 with a RTL chipset
[09:29] <PirateHead> Lilandra: not being a regular Opera user, I know little about its inner workings. I know that it's purty, and closed source, and not as extensible as Firefox, which is enough info for me.
[09:30] <Kyle___> Does anyone know anything about ubuntustudio?
[09:30] <Lilandra> AnxiousCowboy: it usually means you're running another update session already
[09:30] <shatrat> AnxiousCowboy, only one program can install software at a time.  If you have synpatic open apt-get won't work and vice versa.
[09:30] <Lilandra> mhemu: thanks
[09:30] <PirateHead> Kyle___: I have heard about UbuntuStudio and read through some of its literature. Can I help you with something?
[09:30] <Kyle___> I'm trying to find out if avisynth will be in it
[09:30] <Lilandra> PirateHead: i just wanted an extra browser so i could login to my work account and home account for some stuff
[09:30] <mhemu> Lilandra, no problem. there's always a surefire way to find out though...give it a spin (and let me know how it goes ;-) )
[09:30] <AnxiousCowboy> ok, thank you, I had synpatic open
[09:31] <AnxiousCowboy> but now it is saying E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied
[09:31] <m3g4hertz> anyone tried to install ubuntu on a Macbook?
[09:31] <Herrelol> m3g4hertz: Yeah
[09:31] <PirateHead> Kyle___: I'm pretty sure that the best place to look is in the related wiki pages, though there might be a pertainant mailing list as well.
[09:31] <Herrelol> Works like a charm
[09:31] <michael_the_choi> m3g4hertz: I just did .
[09:31] <Lilandra> mhemu: man! but you know, that would involve...importing too! argh!! (also need to change harddrive in my osx machine)
[09:31] <AnxiousCowboy> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[09:32] <m3g4hertz> ohh...good to know...think I'm gonna buy one myself...it would be kinda cool to have a system76-laptop though
[09:32] <ladonna> Crazytom  so i'll be looking for realtek firmware for this thing to work?
[09:32] <PirateHead> Herrelol: did it automagically configure WiFi and BlueTooth and the camera? If it does, I'm definitely looking into a MacBook. =D
[09:32] <Rambo3> you are missing wine repo key
[09:32] <mhemu> Lilandra, lol, details details...atleast you didn't have to spend an hour at your parents trying to load up ubuntu only to find that their system has 128 ram causing the livecd to take 239042359432534534mins to load :-P
[09:32] <AnxiousCowboy> hmm, should I just uninstall and reinstall wine?
[09:32] <Crazytom> how did you conclude the realtek chipset?
[09:32] <huckster> Can someone help me with Samba?
[09:32] <Rambo3> AnxiousCowboy, google ubuntu wine and look at their wiki for gpg key
[09:32] <PirateHead> !someone | huckster
[09:32] <ubotu> huckster: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:33] <Lilandra> mhemu: lol! i never install from a livecd..it gives me shivers :-p
[09:33] <michael_the_choi> PirateHead: wifi, yes in the older, not in the core 2 duo.
[09:33] <huckster> Why is smb.conf write protected?
[09:33] <Lilandra> mhemu: i have spent hours configuring wireless tho :(
[09:33] <huckster> And how do I edit the file to setup my Samba server?
[09:33] <Herrelol> PirateHead: Depends, if you use parallells then it does ('cause parallells is magic, and about 3x better than sex)
[09:33] <michael_the_choi> PirateHead: I think with the core 2 duo you need the newer kernel than edgy.
[09:33] <PirateHead> michael_the_choi: shame. The core 2 duo is what I wanted. =D
[09:33] <m3g4hertz> sure huckster first you take 2steps to the left, then turn the lady around 180 degrees. right foot and so on...
[09:33] <AnxiousCowboy> thank god for wikis
[09:33] <poody> Hi all, I've been trying to install Edgy on my dell laptop for a while but always get the CPU Lockup error during the initial boot with the Cd... any clue ? :)
[09:33] <Herrelol> If you're gonna use linux as your main os then you're better off with an IBM
[09:34] <PirateHead> michael_the_choi: We'll have to see how Feisty handles the install, eh?
[09:34] <TMH_> does the ubuntu server install use a GUI?
[09:34] <Herrelol> I just sold my macbook because I found osX to be more of a toy than a great os
[09:34] <cecko> Hi all, how can I mount partition when it's not written in fstab? I am in a livecd with need to backup preinstalled windows
[09:34] <mhemu> Lilandra, as have i. managed to configure it two different ways. first involved rooting around for config files (not a fun task when you've never used ubuntu before) and the other involved an easy way but now it asks for a password everytime i boot up which is mildly annoying
[09:34] <omha> whats the cmd to see the changelog for a deb?
[09:34] <Crazytom> ladonna, i would google firmware for broadcom and also the atheros drivers in ndiswrapper
[09:34] <michael_the_choi> PirateHead:  Yah. I have no doubt it'll all be working soon though.  Yah. Feisty right now, from what I read, does some things better (especially on the core 2 duo) but breaks a couple things so far too.. :-/
[09:34] <PirateHead> TMH_: Yes, it does -- and if you don't like the initially installed GUI, you can uninstall it or install a different one.
[09:34] <michael_the_choi> Herrelol: How do you figure that?
[09:34] <CheshireViking> poody, which dell laptop?
[09:35] <ladonna> Crazytom  so you are saying use the broadcom drivers and firmware or the atheros drivers?
[09:35] <poody> CheshireViking : XPS M1210, the problem seems to be with the wireless network card.  I'm currently downloading herd5 cd to see if the bug has been resolved, but it might not be stable...
[09:35] <SlickRich> hey guys, I'm trying to play enemy territory but can't get any sound, I'm getting the error "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy". does anyone have any suggestions?
[09:35] <Crazytom> I would try and figure out if the firmware is installed to start off with
[09:36] <Lilandra> mhemu: you need a password on booting for your wireless?
[09:36] <Crazytom> ladonna, I would try and figure out if the firmware is installed to start off with
[09:36] <poody> CheshireViking : I looked on the forums, some people talk about switching the wireless on and off, but it doesn't work for me !
[09:36] <m3g4hertz> hey huckster , don't go berserker on me, it was quiet fun, wasn't it?
[09:36] <Crazytom> ladonna, then i would try all kinds of drivers with ndiswrapper
[09:36] <CheshireViking> poody, rite, i've installed Edgy on an inspiron 8100 & lattitude d400 with no problems, everything worked first time even wireless
[09:36] <Herrelol> michael_the_choi: Because I used it for 6 months
[09:36] <mhemu> Lilandra, yeah, gnome network manager setup a keyring entry, so now i need to enter a password for my keyring entry on boot so it will automatically enter my wireless wpa key to my network
[09:36] <michael_the_choi> Herrelol: I mean to say, what about it is "toyish"?
[09:36] <ladonna> Crazytom  how do you check for firmware install?
[09:37] <mhemu> Lilandra, seems like there's no easy work around for it in edgy, unless i want to go compiling stuff (which i don't/don't know how to)
[09:37] <Crazytom> I can't get an answer on that because NOONE WILL ANSWER ME !!!!!!!!!
[09:37] <Lilandra> mhemu: oooo ugh! i had that on fedora...annoyed me no end. i like how i have this set up with my wpa_supplicant.conf and it starts on boot before logging in
[09:37] <Herrelol> Everything is happy and gay and has funny colours, it's like playing with lego
[09:37] <michael_the_choi> So....    A nice appearance makes it a toy?
[09:37] <PirateHead> Herrelol: I'm particularly interested to know what you like better about IBMs. I've always had toshiba laptops, so I don't know anything about either apples or IBM/Lenovos.
[09:37] <TMH_> piratehead: the problem i have is that this machine has only 64mb of ram and therefore the gui does not run at all
[09:38] <Crazytom> can I ask a question?
[09:38] <poody> CheshireViking : Do you know if herd5 is stable enough to experience linux a little until the end of april ? or has anybody tried herd5 and could tell me if it's worth using for now ?
[09:38] <TMH_> however the apps i need will run fine on 64mb ram
[09:38] <N3WB2k> Anyone know where to get XLibs.deb for VLC Media Player tried google and all?
[09:38] <huckster> Sorry m3g4hertz, didn't realize red highlight meant whisper.
[09:38] <Rambo3> !ask  | Crazytom
[09:38] <ubotu> Crazytom: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:38] <XubuntuLover> CrazyTom, ask away
[09:38] <cairnz> anyone got a few seconds to remind me how i manually install grub from using the live ubuntu cd? it seems to want to install to the wrong boot device
[09:38] <Herrelol> PirateHead: I love the finger-scanning they have, all other finger scanners I've tried **** up sometimes, and I've never had problems with the one on IBM laptops
[09:38] <besonen_mobile> anyone using ubuntu on a lenovo thinkpad t60?
[09:38] <mhemu> Lilandra, that's how i did it the first time, but I access multiple wireless networks and didn't feel like having to play around with the configs manually each time i was at a new location. also my school's network does funky stuff on initial connects in order to get authorized, so it was a big headache
[09:38] <Flannel> poody: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[09:38] <PirateHead> THM_: do you desire to run your server from the console, or do you want to use a GUI?
[09:38] <Crazytom> how do i tell if firmware for a wireless card is installed?
[09:38] <Flannel> !grub | cairnz, first link
[09:38] <Seveas> N3WB2k, just install vlc from the ubuntu repos and you don't need xlibs.deb
[09:38] <ubotu> cairnz, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:38] <TMH_> piratehead: no only from the console
[09:38] <Rambo3> Crazytom, what card
[09:38] <huckster> I thought you were publicly humiliating me for my noobiness.
[09:38] <PirateHead> Herrelol: does the finger scanner play nice with Ubuntu?
[09:38] <michael_the_choi> Herrelol:  I like the aqua interface, but what I *really* like is that everything *works* without trouble. ;-) I can get to work without fighting to make the OS work.
[09:38] <Crazytom> belkin
[09:38] <Herrelol> But seriously, IBM uses quality components and you pay for a computer that works
[09:39] <TMH_> piratehead: i only need bind and iptables
[09:39] <PirateHead> TMH_: why is it a problem that the gui will not run, then?
[09:39] <Lilandra> mhemu, couldn't you just save more info in your config file? i think i have my sister's wireless there too...
[09:39] <hateyla> Rambo3: i edit the grub and now im on terminal .. but my packages my menus are not update.. before grup problem i updated my all thing
[09:39] <Rambo3> firmware is binary file it doesn't install
[09:39] <N3WB2k> Without internet? -.-
[09:39] <TMH_> piratehead: the gui is apparently necessary to install
[09:39] <cairnz> thanks Flannel - looking there
[09:39] <CheshireViking> poody, don't know about herd5 & its stability - you're best asking in #ubuntu+1 for that - most of the support questions on Fiesty get pointed in that direction
[09:39] <hateyla> Rambo3: can i get my Old grub setting from any where?
[09:39] <Seveas> TMH_, not if you use the server cd
[09:39] <pros1> I caught my ubuntu install porking the mac-book across the street. Should I switch to xfce ?
[09:39] <PirateHead> TMH_: try downloading the server CD. It does not require a GUI to install.
[09:39] <TMH_> seveas: that uses a non-gui install?
[09:39] <Herrelol> PirateHead: I have yet to try it in ubuntu, I don't owe one (yet) so I have never got close to one with *nix installed
[09:39] <Flannel> TMH_: get the alternate CD.  Although, I believe it still might need 128
[09:39] <Seveas> TMH_, indeed
[09:39] <poody> CheshireViking : Thanks for the tip ! I'll check this channel out !
[09:39] <TMH_> fantastic, that's exactly what i need
[09:40] <Crazytom> Rambo3, so it's already installed for a belkin because i had to install fwcutter for my broadcom
[09:40] <TMH_> thanks guys
[09:40] <mhemu> Lilandra, i guess I could've, but i'm lazy and on the chance that I go to a friends house and want to get access, i didn't feel like having to set something up each time. gnome network manager's gui interface was easier in my opinion, even if it does nag me for a keyring password each time.
[09:40] <Herrelol> OOOH! Burn process finished, time to go home and try installing it again ^^
[09:40] <PirateHead> Herrelol: I see. I'm not really interested in semi-useful gadgetry that doesn't work with Linux, so the finger-scanner sounds a little bit iffy to me. =D
[09:40] <Herrelol> Well, it certainly works, how much you have to do to get it working is another thing =P
[09:40] <TMH_> piratehead: i have a link for the finger print scanner howto if you would like to see it
[09:40] <Lilandra> mhemu: i have heard it is easier! :) maybe when i start travelling i'll succumb !!
[09:40] <Ryiel> Greetings! I have a laptop just installed ubuntu on it. (Asus M3N) And ubuntu does not recognize the AC'97 onboard soundchip. Any clue how to fix it?
[09:40] <Rambo3> Crazytom, if it is ndiswrapper then you can look at manual for you card
[09:41] <PirateHead> TMH_: is it google-search-able?
[09:41] <TMH_> i don't know
[09:41] <CheshireViking> poody, no problem, good luck solving the problem
[09:41] <TMH_> oh i think i have it saved on delicious
[09:41] <cecko> Hi all, how do I mount partition? Qtparted says it there are hda1, hda2 and hda3 but "mount hda1" does not work
[09:41] <Rambo3> hateyla, why old grub
[09:41] <pros1> try running alsaconf for sound
[09:41] <PirateHead> THM_: sure, I guess I'd be interested in seeing it.
[09:41] <Crazytom> Rambo3, manual?
[09:41] <TMH_> piratehead: check these two: http://del.icio.us/TMH/fingerprint
[09:41] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: c0z there is No updates Menu now :< and when i reboot my system the serverx not going up auto.
[09:41] <Herrelol> Is it ok to post links here?
[09:41] <mhemu> Lilandra, it's much easier, especially for someone like me who's not comfortable, or knowledgable, with the linux/ubuntu file system
[09:41] <Rambo3> !madwifi | Crazytom
[09:41] <ubotu> Crazytom: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:41] <PirateHead> TMH_: fingerprint scanners are basically an additional password mechanism, yes?
[09:42] <PirateHead> TMH_: does it make a fingerprint and a password both necessary for login?
[09:42] <XubuntuLover> Worst case scenario, as far as that server install, I found that command line server install from an "alternate install" version is the easiest and most compatible, and then just apt-get whatever desktop you want. Just a lot more downloading
[09:42] <Crazytom> ladonna, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:42] <Herrelol> PirateHead: Yes
[09:42] <Lilandra> mhemu: i'm daring!!! :-) nice talking to you! duty calls and all that :)
[09:42] <ladonna> Crazytom  got it im there now
[09:42] <mhemu> Lilandra, c ya, good luck with the opera profiles
[09:42] <Herrelol> PirateHead: You can use it for almost anything though, I have a friend that uses it when logging on wintendo, logging onto mail, ftp servers, etc
[09:42] <PirateHead> Herrelol: That's pretty neat. I hope they become standard, along with encrypted hard drives.
[09:43] <aconbere> is there anyway to turn of tooltips for launchers?
[09:43] <TMH_> piratehead: i believe it just plugs into pam
[09:43] <TMH_> piratehead: i have not tried it despite owning a thinkpad
[09:43] <ladonna> Crazytom  im going to sign off for now and try to get this working. Thanks again for you help. Ill get back with and keep you posted on the progress
[09:43] <mhemu> !pam
[09:43] <PirateHead> aconbere: there probably is. How much digging through Gnome's docs do you want to do? =P
[09:43] <Crazytom> ladonna, what does sudo pccardctl ident get you
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <Crazytom> ladonna, later
[09:43] <aconbere> PirateHead: ha... not very much
[09:43] <ladonna> Crazytom  hold on
[09:43] <TMH_> piratehead: it was on my "todo" list but i had other things to do and it slipped my mind
[09:43] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, that can effect of other things you've done
[09:43] <XubuntuLover>  is there anyway to turn of tooltips for launchers? bump
[09:43] <N3WB2k> Anyone know where to get XLibs.deb for VLC Media Player tried google and all (Offline Installation)?
[09:44] <poody> Does anyone knows a workaround for the "SOFT CPU LOCKUP on CPU #1 or CPU #0" because of the wireless card on Edgy ??
[09:44] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, did you remove gdm or x problems
[09:44] <CapaH> How can I determine the *ip address* of a hostname from the shell? nslookup will do the reverse of this.. ?
[09:44] <ladonna> Crazytom  nothing ?
[09:44] <TMH_> capah: nslookup
[09:44] <PirateHead> aconbere: as far as I know that's not in one of the GUI menus. Since Gnome is built for usability, the tooltips are sort of part of the package.
[09:44] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: if i want to check my Old grub setting what it is? can i?
[09:44] <riaal> really need some help installing madwifi, Im following a guide but they "drivers" are missing from the server, anyone done this resently?
[09:44] <XubuntuLover> Rambo3: ping works well for me
[09:44] <TMH_> piratehead: you can fool it with a gummybear by the way, don't put too much stock in it
[09:44] <aconbere> PirateHead: understood
[09:44] <jrib> CapaH: host   works too
[09:44] <CapaH> TMH_: nslookup doesn't give a host to an ip just an ip to a host --- or am I doing something wrong? nslookup <some ip> --- just fails
[09:45] <XubuntuLover> Rambo3: ping <hostname>
[09:45] <Rambo3> |NewUser|,  update-grub will restore it to default
[09:45] <TMH_> oh right
[09:45] <omha> how can i see the all my hdd's mounted and unmounted /dev/names
[09:45] <Crazytom> ladonna, just look at that troubleshooting doc that's all i can do from here
[09:45] <mhemu> PirateHead, can also fool it with jello :-P
[09:45] <PirateHead> TMH_: yeah, the whole idea sounds sort of silly and James Bond.
[09:45] <bafoc> CapaH: use dig instead... nslookup is old
[09:45] <jonez> CapaH: try reversing it.. 1.2.168.192.in-addr.arpa should look up "192.168.2.1"
[09:45] <TMH_> capah: you can try pinging the ip address but that is dependant on the ip address having a reverse hostname
[09:45] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: then my updated packages? will be going to install again?
[09:45] <beni> any webmaster helping chan on this server?
[09:45] <ladonna> Crazytom  will do, we made some progress wont be long before this thing is up and runnin
[09:45] <CapaH> basically I have the IP I need the hostname
[09:45] <XubuntuLover> omha: fdisk -l?
[09:46] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, what are you talking about now
[09:46] <PirateHead> TMH_: the idea of laptops with standard hardware-driven encryption support sounds realy yummy, though.
[09:46] <TMH_> piratehead: in theory it is cool but then you lose your encryption keys ;[
[09:46] <PirateHead> TMH_: no matter what file permissions I set on my laptop, anybody can pop in a LiveCD and recover my files.
[09:46] <TMH_> piratehead: good point
[09:46] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: i update my packages n all repo.. but now nothing is there in menus.
[09:46] <TMH_> piratehead: i use truecrypt for my important stuff
[09:46] <TMH_> i do recommend you check it out
[09:46] <Lilandra> mhemu: nooo good luck with making firefox default!
[09:47] <mhemu> PirateHead, lock the bios with a password and disabling booting from cd drive
[09:47] <Ryiel> Greetings! I have a laptop just installed ubuntu on it. (Asus M3N) And ubuntu does not recognize the AC'97 onboard soundchip. Any clue how to fix it?
[09:47] <PirateHead> TMH_: with hardware-driven encryption, there's little or no CPU/memory overhead, little lag time, and the whole shebang is encrypted. =D
[09:47] <Rambo3> |NewUser|, if you are thinking of new programs use alacarte to enable debian menu
[09:47] <MrRio> anyone know what theme opensuse uses?
[09:47] <bur[n] er> How can I set an ssh user to be scponly and jailed to a certain directory such as /var/www/
[09:47] <TMH_> piratehead: is that theory right now or is there a product out there that already does this?
[09:47] <ethernomad> wow, this place is hopping!
[09:47] <Flannel> |NewUser|: Each time you update a kernel, update-grub gets called.  If you want to set options that'll stick around, you need to do it in the comments at the beginning of the file, if youwant to add more kernels, you need to add them after the "End Debain automagic kernels" line, or they'll get erased
[09:48] <TMH_> piratehead: i also have a nice feature on my thinkpad; i have set a password on the hard drive so the heads won't engage unless the correct password is supplied
[09:48] <leftcase> Anyone think there's much of a demand for single-sign on ldap or active directory configuration in the installer process of Ubuntu? Personally, I think it'd help promote it corporately ...
[09:48] <mescon> hey, how can I remove the text captions from the icons of Nautilus menubar? (Back, Forward, Up, Stop, Reload, Home and so on)
[09:48] <mescon> cant find the option :/
[09:48] <cairnz> thanks Flannel , i hope i figured it out.. *crosses fingers and reboots*
[09:48] <bafoc> Lilandra: try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=504832
[09:48] <PirateHead> mhemu: seagate has a product on the market today with that technology -- but it's not nearly standard yet, so I don't plan on getting it until it's been tried and tested a bit more.
[09:48] <cables> When I resume from suspend, my CPU always runs a little hotter than it did before the suspend. Is there any way to fix this?
[09:48] <riaal> Where can I read about installing madwifi drivers??
[09:48] <bur[n] er> !madwifi
[09:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:48] <cables> riaal, they're included in ubuntu I believe...
[09:49] <riaal> cabldevil, oh, really? thanks
[09:49] <PirateHead> cables: I had to build madwifi from source, it wasn't included with my base Edgy install.
[09:49] <ethernomad> ubotu:  Does that include info on setting up wpa_supplicant.conf?
[09:49] <cables> riaal, I've got an Atheros chipset card, and it worked out of the box. cc PirateHead
[09:49] <Lilandra> bafoc, i think that was about suond
[09:49] <Lilandra> laterz all
[09:49] <PirateHead> ethernomad: ubotu is a bot. Address questions to the room. =D
[09:49] <Herrelol> Do any of you have some experience with grub errors?
[09:49] <ethernomad> sorry...first time in room
[09:49] <ardchoille> aconbere: What are you wanting to turn off tooltips for?
[09:50] <ardchoille> aconbere: Which app?
[09:50] <Flannel> !anyone | Herrelol
[09:50] <ubotu> Herrelol: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:50] <riaal> cables, how can I check what drivers its running on?
[09:50] <bafoc> lilandra: oops... wrong nice.. sorry
[09:50] <PirateHead> ethernomad: No problem. Ubotu is programmed to say stuff that we have to say constantly, so it saves us typing.
[09:50] <cables> riaal, I'm not sure... I think lsmod lists running modules, if that helps
[09:50] <mescon> hey, how can I remove the text captions from the icons of Nautilus menubar? (Back, Forward, Up, Stop, Reload, Home and so on)
[09:50] <Herrelol> ubotu: OI! I did the first two times, and that didn't work either
[09:50] <XubuntuLover> Did someone still have a question about getting sound to work after a fresh install (getting no sound)?
[09:50] <leftcase> hehehe
[09:50] <Seveas> !bot | Herrelol
[09:51] <ubotu> Herrelol: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:51] <Herrelol> Now don't make me find a screwdriver and put your hw on dis-array
[09:51] <Herrelol> in*
[09:51] <cables> riaal, I don't seeem to have "madwifi" running, I have ath_pci and ath_hal running though... not sure if that's an alias for atheros or something.
[09:51] <Herrelol> Seveas: I'm afraid I already know he's a bot
[09:51] <Seveas> !botabuse | Herrelol
[09:51] <PirateHead> cables: if ath_pci is running, then that's madwifi.
[09:51] <ubotu> Herrelol: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:51] <Seveas> ;)
[09:51] <Seveas> I'd consider your plans with his h/w abuse
[09:52] <Seveas> especially since that's *my* hardware :p
[09:52] <ethernomad> looking for how-to on configuring wpa_supplicant
[09:52] <Seveas> ethernomad, forget that and use network-manager
[09:52] <Herrelol> Seveas: And I'd have to go through the trouble of finding out where that hardware is located in the world, probably get a flight ticket and buy myself a screwdriver before I could even start abusing it
[09:52] <Herrelol> =P
[09:53] <PirateHead> Seveas: the applicable quote from HGTTG is "Now open the door right now, or I'll take a sledge hammer to your databanks and give you a reprogramming you won't forget!"
[09:53] <riaal> cables, me2, thanks
[09:53] <Seveas> PirateHead, heh :)
[09:53] <Seveas> indeed
[09:53] <Seveas> but ubotu isn't eddie
[09:53] <XubuntuLover> Anybody know a music player that handles large volumes of music and dynamically cross references searches through ID3 tags to catagorize results? I had a player like this and can't find it again.  :(
[09:53] <Flannel> Herrelol: which partition are you trying to boot to when you get that error?
[09:53] <Steve^> Is it possible save a session, but stop Gaim from loading when ubuntu starts?
[09:53] <Steve^> Or at least stop it from connecting
[09:53] <Herrelol> Flannel: /dev/hdb1
[09:54] <mhemu> ethernomad, http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[09:54] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know how I can stream the output of Amarok across the internet via VLC?
[09:54] <XubuntuLover> Steve^: stop gaim then save the session?
[09:54] <Flannel> Herrelol: and what hd#,# are you booting to in GRUB?  (and this is a linux partition?)
[09:55] <comicinker> hi
[09:55] <XubuntuLover> Why not broadcast directly through Amarok rather than VLC?
[09:55] <cables_> Hi guys, how can I stop a module from running at startup?
[09:55] <yurimxpxman> XubuntuLover: How could I do that?
[09:55] <XubuntuLover> There is a VLC Player / GUI
[09:55] <Steve^> XubuntuLover, I'd still like it to auto-update everytime I log out though
[09:55] <leftcase> Hi folks, does anyone know of any Ubuntu packages that make it easy to configure edgy for single-sign-on against an Active Directory Domain?
[09:56] <Herrelol> Flannel: I'm not sure, it's the grafic install of ubuntu and I haven't tried booting with a live-cd
[09:56] <comicinker> assumed that i have overwritten a directory that way, that the system thinks it is a file, can I change it back again?
[09:56] <CheshireViking> i'm trying to play an .avi file, but whatever I try playing it with Movie Player, Realplayer, vlc, gxine, all i get is a black window - i get sound, but no picture, anybody able to help?
[09:56] <yurimxpxman> XubuntuLover: What are you talking about? I thought you were talking about not using VLC at all..
[09:56] <yurimxpxman> is there an amarok script to do it?
[09:56] <cables_> CheshireViking, AVI isn't very informative... what codec is inside that AVI file?
[09:56] <Rambo3> xvid?
[09:56] <cables_> CheshireViking, right click and go to properties, then audio-video tab to find out.
[09:56] <mhemu> ethernomad, that link i posted is far easier than playing around with the wpa_supplicant.conf
[09:56] <jrib> !avi | CheshireViking
[09:57] <ubotu> CheshireViking: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:57] <Flannel> Herrelol: eh?  You don't need to.  Go to your grub menu (hit esc after your POST screen), on the offending menu item, and hit 'e' to view it (well, edit it, but part of editing is viewing)
[09:57] <cables_> Rambo3, you can stick a lot of things in an AVI
[09:57] <levander> Is no one else having the problem I'm having where Firefox seems flaky?  E.g., bookmarks stopped being saved, Tools -> Add Ons show you have no extensions installed (- although you know you do because the extension's dialogs and such still popup) ?
[09:57] <Herrelol> Flannel: I get the error so fast that I can't possible make it before the error occurs
[09:57] <XubuntuLover> Steve^: sorry, this is a bit of a guess, but what about running either an update script at start, or stop it after the update?
[09:57] <Herrelol> possibly*
[09:57] <Steve^> levander, that's firefox for you. It gave me enough random unique bugs that I switched to Opera
[09:58] <cables_> levander, run firefox -safe-mode to run Firefox in safe mode, to see what's up. From there you can disable/remove extensions to see what's causing the problem.
[09:58] <Flannel> Herrelol: Right, you can still do that though.  Hit escape to get to the grub menu (since it's hidden by default), and then hit 'e' to view the entry
[09:58] <CheshireViking> cables_, i try right clicking, i'm only getting an audio tab, nothing with video on it
[09:58] <Herrelol> Ahh.... ok
[09:58] <cables_> CheshireViking, that means there's no video in the AVI file
[09:58] <cables_> CheshireViking, no video track.
[09:59] <Herrelol> I learn, therefor I live
[09:59] <levander> cables_: yeah, I turn off extensions and everything in Safe Mode, restart in regular mode and it works fine.  I've been deleting my .mozilla directory when I do that too, but I'm not sure I have to do that.
[09:59] <CheshireViking> cables_, there is video, i can play it quite happily on a windows machine
[09:59] <Steve^> XubuntuLover, I may just turn sessions off.. thing is I have a bug that if Gaim opens before beryl, when opened from the system tray it is not the most-on top window
[09:59] <cables_> levander, it's repetitive?
[09:59] <Herrelol> Just for the record, how many extensions do you have in firefox?
[09:59] <cables_> CheshireViking, no idea then... sounds like a weirdly-encoded or weirdly-muxed avi
[09:59] <levander> cables_: yeah, after doing that, it starts working fine for maybe three weeks, but then it starts back up again.
[09:59] <levander> Steve^: I never had these problems till I upgrade to Edgy.
[09:59] <grndslm> anyone ever experience repeated keystrokes that continue for approx 5 sec. and cannot be interrupted by myself in any way....only happens on my laptop
[09:59] <cables_> levander, are you installing the same extensions?
[10:00] <leftcase> Hi folks, does anyone know of any Ubuntu packages that make it easy to configure edgy for single-sign-on against an Active Directory Domain?
[10:00] <Ched> *,
[10:00] <cables_> !repeat | leftcase
[10:00] <ubotu> leftcase: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:00] <CheshireViking> cables_, thanks anyway, i'll go & warm up a windows machine & see if i can work it out
[10:00] <levander> cables_: Yeah, I reinstall the same extensions (they're all pretty well known like the Web Developer Extension, Google Synch) I'm not installing any obscure ones.
[10:00] <cables_> leftcase, give it at least 15 minutes between repeats :)
[10:00] <XubuntuLover> Steve^: AH, Think that is it. I love Beryl, but it is just too heavy, and much to BETA to run all the time. I start in Gnome, then switch to Beryl manually. That fixed most of my problems with Beryl / everything desktop weird
[10:00] <leftcase> :|
[10:00] <leftcase> kk
[10:01] <levander> XubuntuLover: yeah, it sucks they've decide to leave Beryl out of Feisty cause it's still so flaky, I was looking forward to that.
[10:01] <Steve^> XubuntuLover, actually thats an Idea, assuming I can open Beryl with a single click
[10:01] <comicinker> help please! assumed that i have overwritten a directory that way, that the system thinks it is a file, can I change it back again?
[10:01] <poody> Anybody here with experience on how to bypass the wirless bug with the ipw3945 on my dell xps M1210 laptop so I can install Edgy ?
[10:01] <levander> Steve^: did you have these problems with Firefox before Dapper?
[10:01] <comicinker> watch therfor this: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8342/
[10:01] <Steve^> levander, I had them with Firefox before I used linux :P
[10:01] <Herrelol> Flannel: Thanks for helping, if I log on with xchat in around an hour then you know I got it working
[10:01] <Steve^> Opera is better anyway
[10:01] <levander> Steve^: I've never had them on XP.
[10:01] <Steve^> (Thats just why I switched)
[10:02] <Steve^> My Firefox behaved weirdly, I tried to clean my PC of it, but it was always weird, just for me, unique weird bugs
[10:02] <McQueen> hi, i have got a problem with xine. i can play wmv files, i can hear sound but i can not watch the video. how can i fix it?
[10:02] <aconbere> ardchoille: all the launchers in my panels
[10:03] <levander> Steve^: that is wierd
[10:03] <shadwan> Hello everyone. Does anyone know how to undo updates? i updated with package manager this morning and all of my settings have gone haywire, and i can't seem to change them back. I'm not at all good at these things. Any help would be great. ta
[10:03] <leftcase> what are you updating shadwan ?
[10:03] <cinex> 'lo
[10:03] <levander> shadwan: what tool did you use to update?  some of them have logs to tell you what you updated
[10:04] <XubuntuLover> I just installed Ubuntu onto a Dell Optiplex 530GX, from a 6.10 Live CD, and after Updating (did not check till after update) OpenOffice crashes immediately on startup with "Open Office could not start: an Internal error has occured". I tried using Symantic Package Manager to "Reinstall all the core components, and still getting same error
[10:04] <Steve^> levander, you can always try Opera whilst you fix it :)
[10:04] <McQueen> hi, i have got a problem with xine. i can play wmv files, i can hear sound but i can not watch the video. how can i fix it?
[10:04] <imacoolkid> What's the hotkey to switch workplaces?
[10:05] <comicinker> Hello! Can somebody help my with this: assumed that i have overwritten a directory that way, that the system thinks it is a file, can I change it back again? Watch therfor this: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8344/
[10:05] <XubuntuLover> McQueen: You must not have the codex for those videos installed
[10:05] <imacoolkid> What's the hotkey to switch workplaces?
[10:05] <AnxiousCo> hello
[10:06] <AnxiousCo> What is gnome-cups-manager? how do I access it? I am trying to set up a printer and someone said  Choose printer driver from gnome-cups-manager(Printers)
[10:06] <ethernomad> why does gedit say, "cannot open display"?
[10:06] <McQueen> XubuntuLover, i installed xine plugins from add/remove panel. so how can i upgrade the plugins?
[10:06] <leftcase> cups = common unix printing
[10:06] <Julie> can someone help me
[10:06] <XubuntuLover> iamacoolkid: Gnome, I think, is CTRL-Arrow
[10:06] <Flannel> ethernomad: because you are running it in a tty and not gnome terminal
[10:07] <ethernomad> ok, how do I comment something out in VI?
[10:07] <comicinker> vi?
[10:07] <imacoolkid> ctrl-arrow didn't work, Anyone else know? What the hotkey to change workplaces
[10:07] <Julie> Hi, I'm trying to delete a document from my external drive, but the folder has a locker on it and it says that I don't have permission. what can I do to delete it? It's a folder full of music and videos that I already have in another folder, so I have them in double, and it's taking place for nothing.
[10:07] <Julie> Thanks!
[10:07] <dyrne> AnxiousCo: alternative to gnome-cups is just to type localhost:631 in browser.
[10:07] <ethernomad> vi text editor
[10:07] <AnxiousCo> ok
[10:07] <Rambo3> ethernomad, thats not valid question
[10:07] <ardchoille> aconbere: Open gconf-editor and look at /apps/panel/global/tooltips_enabled  I think that is what you're looking for
[10:08] <leftcase> AnxiousCo: Or type gnome-cups-add in the terminal to bring up the program which allows you to add a new printer
[10:08] <XubuntuLover> McQueen: My choice is Automatix2. It is another program like Synaptic Package Manager and Add / Remove Programs, but has a lot more Driver / Codex related things
[10:08] <comicinker> thats pretty easy: <esc> move to the position, type ones "i" for instert insert, type whatever you want, press <esc> and finally :wq
[10:08] <AnxiousCo> thanks leftcase
[10:08] <erstazi> Julie: did you try su (root)
[10:08] <PriceChild> !automatix | XubuntuLover
[10:08] <ubotu> XubuntuLover: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:08] <leftcase> np m8
[10:08] <jhaig> If I install the current latest version of Feisty, will updates over the next month bring it up to the state of the official release (when it is released), or would a reinstall be required?
[10:09] <Rambo3> ethernomad, "i" for insert  # is usualy comment  for bash
[10:09] <Julie> well, i dont know what to write in the code box
[10:09] <riaal> what is the difference in the "linux-restricted-modules-????"
[10:09] <imacoolkid> ctrl-arrow didn't work, Anyone else know? What the hotkey to change workplaces
[10:09] <McQueen> XubuntuLover, thanks
[10:09] <erstazi> Julie: in the terminal?
[10:09] <DarkX> !worksforme
[10:09] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:09] <XubuntuLover> McQueen: Check the above note, Automatix is discouraged for many reasons.
[10:09] <Julie> yeah
[10:10] <Julie> im new to this
[10:10] <ethernomad> alright, back to my original question.  It appears that I am using the Gnome Terminal
[10:10] <erstazi> Julie: ok, open the terminal up
[10:10] <imacoolkid> ctrl-arrow didn't work, Anyone else know? What the hotkey to change workplaces
[10:10] <Julie> i did
[10:10] <McQueen> XubuntuLover, i c thanks for your help
[10:10] <erstazi> type in su
[10:10] <JohnPhys> imacoolkid : I believe it's ctrl + alt + left/right
[10:10] <Julie> ok
[10:10] <riaal> what is the difference in the "linux-restricted-modules-386 and linux-restricted-modules-generic ?
[10:10] <imacoolkid> Thanks JohnPhys!
[10:11] <erstazi> Julie: press enter key and then type in the root password
[10:11] <Flannel> riaal: one's for the 386 kernel, the other's for the generic kernl
[10:11] <ethernomad> grrr... gedit no worky
[10:11] <Rambo3> riaal, arch
[10:11] <Flannel> erstazi, Julie, don't use su, use sudo.  There's no reason to use su (or a root account), on Ubuntu
[10:11] <Julie> su: Authentication failure
[10:11] <Julie> Sorry.
[10:11] <cables_> riaal, did you get Atheros working?
[10:11] <riaal> Flannel, don't get it? if im running 386 and need madwifi drivers witch one?
[10:11] <Flannel> Julie: use sudo, type in your password.
[10:11] <cables_> riaal, hold on a sec
[10:11] <riaal> cables_, okey, thanks =)
[10:12] <Flannel> riaal: if you're running the -386 kernel, you need the -386 restricted modules
[10:12] <erstazi> Flannel: sorry, I use su all the time, old habits
[10:12] <Julie> when i write sudo, they dont ask for the password
[10:12] <riaal> Flannel, shall I remove generic fist?
[10:12] <XubuntuLover> JohnPhys: Ctrl-Alt + arrow just worked for me in Xcfe
[10:12] <Flannel> Julie: sudo remembers for 10 minutes, so if you've sudo'd recently, it won't
[10:12] <cables_> riaal, what type of processor do you have and what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[10:12] <jhaig> Julie: It will ask the first time, but then remember for a while.
[10:12] <Flannel> riaal: You probably want to use the generic kernel.  386 is for machines that can't run the generic kernel
[10:12] <Julie> ok so i wrote sudo
[10:12] <erstazi> Julie: or remember until you exit
[10:12] <Julie> what next?
[10:12] <AnxiousCo> I think I am misunderstanding this.   Choose printer driver from gnome-cups-manager(Printers). How do I do this?
[10:12] <riaal> cables_,  AMD 64 and 386
[10:12] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: i just g0t back Old look uBuntu.. now i want to save this grub info?
[10:13] <erstazi> Julie: what is the directory for the folder that needs permissions?
[10:13] <Julie> in a external driver
[10:13] <|NewUser|> Rambo3: now i have all things all updated menus.
[10:13] <erstazi> Julie: what is the external harddrive's format?
[10:13] <Julie> USB-HDD
[10:13] <riaal> Flannel, Im confused
[10:13] <cables_> riaal, sudo aptitude show linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` | grep State
[10:13] <Julie> i dont know, how do i check
[10:13] <Flannel> Julie: you sudo a particular command.  "sudo [something] ", in your case, you're looking to delete something with nautilus.  So, "gksudo nautilus" will do it.  And just be careful (and close nautilus after you're finished)
[10:13] <cables_> riaal, you don't need the sudo
[10:13] <Flannel> Julie: Is it a windows drive/
[10:13] <Julie> what is nautilus :S
[10:13] <cables_> Julie, Gnome file manager
[10:13] <erstazi> Flannel: can you explain, my hands hurt from coding
[10:13] <DarkX> whats the windows key under ubuntu, isnt it <Super>
[10:13] <Flannel> Julie: nautilus is the file browser
[10:13] <Julie> ummm i dunno...
[10:14] <riaal> cables_,  what is the difference in apt-get and aptitude?
[10:14] <XubuntuLover> Is there a way to lock the Settings Manager?
[10:14] <cables_> riaal, aptitude is smarter about dependencies. That command just checks if you have that installed
[10:14] <jfalvarez> hey! question, when I try to load a public_html dir via apache2 always I get a 403 error, I see that i dont vahe mod_userdir.c when I type "apache2 -l", somebody can help on this ?
[10:14] <Julie> so i write gksudo nautilus and then what?
[10:14] <jfalvarez> *I dont have
[10:14] <erstazi> jfalvarez: permissions
[10:14] <riaal> cables_, State: installed
[10:14] <cables_> riaal, damn, I thought I was getting somewhere
[10:14] <Flannel> Julie: is usermod in mods-enabled?  And yeah, make sure your public_html is 755
[10:14] <erstazi> jfalvarez: make sure its set to be read by OTHER
[10:15] <Flannel> jfalvarez, not Julie, sorry
[10:15] <riaal> cables_, thing is, the drivers seams to work but I need madwifi tools, when I try to install them it says I already have it, but I don't =S
[10:15] <Julie> haha i was like wtf?
[10:15] <jfalvarez> erstazi: really ? thats rare -> drwxr-xr-x 2 jfalvarez users     4096 Mar 15 21:06 public_html
[10:15] <cables_> riaal, lspci | grep Ath
[10:15] <AnxiousCo> hmm, never mind, it finally sent jobs to my printer
[10:15] <cables_> riaal, what are you trying to do that doesn't work?
[10:15] <AnxiousCo> but now it is not printing its jobs, lol. Anyone experience this?
[10:15] <grndslm> anyone ever experience repeated keystrokes that continue for approx 5 sec. and cannot be interrupted by myself in any way....only happens on my laptop
[10:15] <Flannel> Julie: gksudo nautilus, then enter your password (if it akss), then you can browse with the window that pops up, and delete the file, once you're done, close that window
[10:15] <erstazi> jfalvarez: is usermod in mods-enabled?
[10:16] <jfalvarez> Flannel: yes, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Nov  1  2005 userdir.conf -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf
[10:16] <jfalvarez> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Nov  1  2005 userdir.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.load
[10:16] <marshall> fun is fun
[10:16] <riaal> cables_, check pm
[10:16] <jfalvarez> erstazi: yes
[10:16] <AnxiousCo> Printing: open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds...
[10:16] <jfalvarez> erstazi: is a symbolic link
[10:16] <grndslm> no one has this repeated keystrokes problem??  thinking it could possibly be related to the hard drive
[10:16] <Julie> ummm ok i did and a window came up with home and desktop and stuff but my external driver is not there
[10:17] <XubuntuLover> Where would I find Add/Remove Programs or Settings Manager in the file system to change permissions?
[10:17] <jrib> XubuntuLover: change permissions of what?
[10:17] <Flannel> jfalvarez: what are the perms on your home dir? /home/username
[10:18] <erstazi> jfalvarez: I would type more but my hands are killing me... too much coding
[10:18] <Rambo3> !think-before-asking
[10:18] <Julie> guys, i typed gksudo nautilus, then the root window came up... but my external drive is not listed in it
[10:18] <Flannel> Julie: Where did your drive show up before?
[10:18] <jfalvarez> erstazi: hahaha :)
[10:19] <Julie> well, its on my desktop
[10:19] <XubuntuLover> I recently installed Xubuntu on a number of old machines in my classroom, Students are actually using them, and while "user" has a lot of restrictions, I want to lock more of the interface settings, and Settings Manager especially.
[10:19] <Julie> but when i click on desktop from root, nothing appears
[10:19] <clouder`grr> Why does moving windows take up 100% CPU usage?  I'm using gnome, fglrx, BigDesktop for dual display, and direct rendering says yes
[10:19] <riaal> cables_, you still here?
[10:19] <jfalvarez> Flannel: damn you are right :) drwx------ 4 jfalvarez users   4096 Mar 14 21:20 jfalvarez
[10:19] <cables_> riaal, yep
[10:19] <dyrne> Julie: are you asking howto mount it manually?
[10:19] <jfalvarez> Flannel: thx dude (y)
[10:19] <Flannel> Julie: alright, gksudo might put you on someone elses desktop.  You'll need to navigate to your own.  which is in /home/username, where username is your username
[10:19] <Julie> no, i want to delete a locked file on my external drive...
[10:19] <Flannel> Julie: er, /home/username/Desktop, that is
[10:20] <chrisjw> hi, i have two hard drives, one has linux, the other windows; I had to reinstall windows, it overwrote the GRUB multiboot that was set up
[10:20] <czubass> jjhkhljh;jl;kj
[10:20] <czubass> jnbkjbkb
[10:20] <XubuntuLover> clouder'grr: My suspicion is effeciency. Is your computer laggy when you move windows, or does the cpu just kick into full gear
[10:20] <chrisjw> can I setup dual boot again without reinstalling linux>?
[10:20] <cables_> !grub | chrisjw
[10:20] <czubass> fack windows
[10:20] <ubotu> chrisjw: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:20] <czubass> :P
[10:20] <riaal> cables_, sorry if im confusing you, the thing is, I tryed to get my old ralink card to work for ages. All things i read about got me confused. So now I have bouth a new nic but Im still confused.. =S
[10:20] <cables_> riaal, did you run lspci | grep Ath
[10:21] <ziadoz> does anyone have any idea why my laptop wont hibernate, it trys to, then just locks the screen :\
[10:21] <clouder`grr> It will idle at 6-7% then once I grab a window and move it, it jumps to 100% and windows behind it redraw very slowly
[10:21] <Julie> I did.... im in desktop right now... still not there... im confused
[10:21] <leftcase> ziadoz: Which laptop?
[10:21] <Rambo3> clouder`grr, sound like xorg.conf problem
[10:21] <jrib> XubuntuLover: Maybe you can use Sabayon though I'm not sure because I've never used it.  I don't know what "Settings Manager" is.  What version of ubuntu is this?
[10:21] <ran> i just got adsl and the connections works but surfing the net is slow. it takes some time till it connects but when its connected download is nearly 400kb. anyone know why?
[10:21] <Julie> OH
[10:21] <Julie> ok found it in media
[10:21] <Julie> hahaha
[10:22] <clouder`grr> Rambo3: any ideas as to what I should be looking for?
[10:22] <cairnz> is grub-install supposed to create a menu.lst in /boot/grub/ ?
[10:22] <riaal> cables_,  check pm again
[10:22] <Julie> thanks guys!
[10:22] <cables_> riaal, check pm :)
[10:22] <levander> I've installed the nvidia hardware accelerated drivers from the Ubuntu repositories.  Now "sudo aptitude update" wants to update the kernel.  Am I going to have to reinstall those drivers?
[10:22] <riaal> cables_,  Im not geting any, chage to a registerd nick
[10:22] <riaal> change*
[10:22] <ziadoz> leftcase, its a compaq presario v5000
[10:22] <Flannel> levander: no, the drivers are under package management too
[10:22] <levander> Flannel: thanks
[10:23] <cables_> riaal, damn, for some reason I'm not using my regular nick, which is regular...
[10:23] <Rambo3> clouder`grr, tweaking  the driver. most often that happends when installing ati-s or nvidia-s driver , and not using free one
[10:23] <XubuntuLover> In Xubuntu, there is a beautiful "Settings Manager", very much like a Control Panel on other OEM OS's that groups various settings together.
[10:23] <cables_> riaal, s/regular/registered
[10:23] <cables_> riaal, can you join #cables then?
[10:23] <clouder`grr> Rambo3:   The other day I came in asking this question but with the open source drivers.  I was told to try the binary drivers, but same thing
[10:24] <XubuntuLover> it is cleaner than the typical System and Administration menus
[10:24] <Rambo3> clouder`grr, try older kernel
[10:24] <jrib> XubuntuLover: oh right you said Xubuntu, I completely missed that
[10:24] <clouder`grr> Would you mind taking a glance at my xorg.conf?
[10:25] <leftcase> ziadoz: Has it got an amd64 processor in it mate~?
[10:25] <XubuntuLover> Jrib: I wish it was implemented into Ubuntu / Gnome. Wish I knew how to do that
[10:25] <ziadoz> its a celeron m i think
[10:25] <leftcase> ah rightho
[10:25] <jrib> XubuntuLover: if no one knows here, be sure to try #xubuntu as well
[10:26] <ziadoz> its a v5200 to be specific
[10:26] <clouder`grr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10517/
[10:26] <ziadoz> UK model of it
[10:26] <jhaig> XubuntuLover: What is it called?
[10:26] <AnxiousCo> my printer is getting its jobs in queue but does not actually print them, what is wrong?
[10:26] <dyrne> XubuntuLover: that is in ubuntu
[10:26] <dg10050> um, when I install anything with apt-get it tells me that I have probably close to 50 packages that are no longer needed, but they all seem to be related to KDE (I am using Ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop package installed)
[10:27] <dyrne> XubuntuLover: well.. what version are you in? inst in > dapper
[10:27] <XubuntuLover> dyrne: Edgy
[10:27] <jrib> XubuntuLover: gnome-control-center might be similar
[10:27] <dyrne> XubuntuLover: i know settings manager if that is what youre refering to is in dapper and feisty i skipped edgy
[10:28] <CheshireViking> cables_, just for info, that video problem I had, it was down to a wierd codec, booted windows up, took a few mins to find the codec down "MWV1" & install, converted the file, now runs on ubuntu.  Thanks for the advice
[10:28] <SGorillaaaa> when i play games on wine they go really slow, has anyone else had this problem? i have no windows :(
[10:28] <testar> does cnr come with feisty fawn?
[10:28] <dg10050> is it safe to remove those packages that show up?
 um, when I install anything with apt-get it tells me that I have probably close to 50 packages that are no longer needed, but they all seem to be related to KDE (I am using Ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop package installed)
[10:29] <bafoc> dg10050 try apt-get install -f
[10:29] <testy> Hi, just going through the dm-crypt howto on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowtoEdgy , at the bottom it says "Edit /etc/pam.d/(login|gdm) ... what does the (login|gdm) stand for?
[10:29] <jhaig> dg10050: It should be.  There was probably some package that you installed and uninstalled once which had a lot of dependencies.
[10:29] <madman91> hey guys
[10:30] <dg10050> bafoc: I can still install stuff, it just says "Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them."
[10:30] <madman91> is there a way to make cdparanoia create a rip log ?
[10:30] <leftcase> ziadoz - Checking the hardware compatibility list here https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsCompaq doesn't show up any reported issues with hibernating your model of laptop
[10:30] <testar> when does the freespire and ubuntu colaboration start?
[10:30] <leftcase> ziadoz: Saying that, there can be problems with various laptops (I know I've had issues) and suspend/hibernate
[10:30] <dg10050> jhaig: some of these seem important like "kubuntu-docs"
[10:30] <tjingboem> how can i boot ubuntu from a scsi cdrom?
[10:30] <XubuntuLover> jrib dyrne I will need to take another look. I know they are a bit different. Btw, is there conflict installing ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop on the same machine? Took a little bit to tweak the login manager to look the way I wanted, but appears smooth. I just "change session" between them (Gnome / Xfce). Any known conflicts?
[10:30] <ziadoz> leftcase, when i go to hibernate, it attempts, then just goes back to the locked screen
[10:31] <jrib> XubuntuLover: that's perfectly fine
[10:31] <h1st0> tjingboem: does the pc supporting booting to scsi?
[10:31] <DarkX> tjingboem, use boot floopies first
[10:31] <h1st0> DarkX: most pc's can boot to scsi in the bios
[10:31] <SlickRich> hey guys, I'm trying to play enemy territory but can't get any sound, I'm getting the error "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy". does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:31] <XubuntuLover> tjingboem: Is the Scsi controller onboard or installed to a slot?
[10:31] <Rambo3> clouder`grr, you have no videooverlay
[10:31] <h1st0> DarkX: unless its a scsi card then its up tot he card if it has options
[10:32] <Flannel> SlickRich: there are a few threads in the forums (ubuntuforums.org) that have instructions on getting it working
[10:32] <DarkX> h1st0, i have bunch of scsi cdroms n servers so far the UBUNTU CD has had 0 capability to boot directly off of them
[10:32] <clouder`grr> What's that?
[10:32] <dg10050> jhaig: some of these seem important like "kubuntu-docs"
[10:32] <dg10050> bafoc: I can still install stuff, it just says "Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them."
[10:32] <DarkX> ive had to use boot floopies
[10:32] <tjingboem> the scsi controller is installed to a slot, XubuntuLover
[10:32] <DarkX> which then loaded the cd
[10:32] <clouder`grr> !videopverlay
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videopverlay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <clouder`grr> !videooverlay
[10:32] <SlickRich> cheers flannel
[10:32] <h1st0> DarkX: hrm... maybe a driver issue with teh scsi then?
[10:32] <leftcase> ziadoz: The problem with hibernate/suspend problems in my experience tends that there's no standard solution. There is a thread here which kinda outlies some ideas http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71127
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videooverlay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <testy> Hi, just going through the dm-crypt howto on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowtoEdgy , at the bottom it says "Edit /etc/pam.d/(login|gdm) ... what does the (login|gdm) stand for? Can't figure out what this should be replaced with...
[10:32] <h1st0> !install | tjingboem
[10:32] <ubotu> tjingboem: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:32] <Rambo3> clouder`grr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:32] <DarkX> possible..but once ubuntu is installed it works fine, meaning the boot menu doesnt have full scsi drivers
[10:33] <XubuntuLover> tjingboem if it is not working, it is possible that the card is not supported by your bios. I am assuming you having problems?
[10:33] <DarkX> and has no way to install scsi drivers
[10:33] <BlackDalek> When I booted up this morning the 'puter told me "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The last error message was: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. GN
[10:33] <BlackDalek> OME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in." Is this anything I should be worried about?
[10:33] <clouder`grr> thanks Rambo3
[10:33] <ziadoz> ill take a look leftcase :)
[10:33] <h1st0> tjingboem: check out the links from ubotu your problem may be described there.  You may have to create floppies to boot to the cd.
[10:33] <henke> Are there any plans for a mechanism to allow both the ATI libgl and the mesa libgl to coexist peacefully?
[10:33] <leftcase> ziadoz - Ooooh I think I might have twigged what you where on about :-)
[10:33] <leftcase> lol - I might be leading you down the wrong path!
[10:34] <ziadoz> lol
[10:34] <leftcase> Do you mean that when you close the lid, it basically locks the laptop ?
[10:34] <tjingboem> h1st0, thanks i'll look into it
[10:35] <ziadoz> when i try to hibernate it, by closing it, or actually choosing hibernate from the shutdown menu, it attempts to, but doesnt work, and it just locks the screen and i have to type in my password to get back to the desktop
[10:35] <rkyraccoon55> !beryl
[10:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:35] <tjingboem> XubuntuLover, it's an adaptec card and should be able to get to boot from scsi. i tried every option but no luck:(
[10:35] <lisapc> when I turn on my PC first thing in the morning and load Ubuntu, sound never works.  But when I then reboot, sound always works.  Is there a solution for this so that sound works at first boot of the day?
[10:35] <DarkX> tjingboem, id suject a IDE to USB converter if your BIOS can boot off of USB
[10:35] <testy> Could anyone have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowtoEdgy and tell me what (login|gdm) should be replaced with?
[10:35] <DarkX> or an IDE PCI Controller temporary while u install
[10:35] <testy> Would be amazing
[10:36] <nolimitsoya_> are there any alternatives to gdesklets for the xfce4.4 desktop?
[10:36] <dyrne> lisapc: if you do 'sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart' does that fix sound?
[10:36] <cheeseboy> how do i run binary as root?
[10:36] <Flannel> !sudo | cheeseboy
[10:36] <ubotu> cheeseboy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:36] <dyrne> lisapc: im not sure if thats alsa-util or utils
[10:36] <tjingboem> DarkX, it's a P1 without USB. i'm trying to get the Ubuntu Server Edition installed
[10:36] <AaronMT> any bash scripting guru's want to help me on something so obvious I cant figure it out
[10:36] <cheeseboy> Flannel i know abu sudo just dont how to open the binary
[10:36] <leftcase> ziadoz: Have you taken a look at the power management settings program ?
[10:37] <dyrne> AaronMT: im abou to leave but ask anyway
[10:37] <XubuntuLover> tjingboem: I would recommend calling your board maker (asus has awsome tech support). It is likely you may be able to flash your bios with an updatefor support. You may also find documentation on the SCSI card from adapetics website.
[10:37] <JT__> can someone tell me how i can get all of the Updates without an internet connection
[10:37] <lisapc> dyrne, never tried it
[10:37] <jewbilee> Hello, my laptop has a VGA cable running from it, to a secondary monitor. Dapper has chosen to show my main image on my second Monitor and not my laptops.  How do I change this?
[10:37] <zues_62> could someone help me
[10:37] <nolimitsoya_> JT__, add the cd to your sources.list
[10:37] <lisapc> dyrne, sound works great, but just not at the very first boot of the day
[10:38] <dyrne> lisapc: that is very odd :)
[10:38] <XubuntuLover> Jt_: The only way I know is to download the individual updates, burn them to a CD, then add the CD as a repository
[10:38] <ziadoz> leftcase, i took a brief look
[10:38] <JT__> Thanks
[10:38] <zues_62> im using  a laptop and i have a PCMA sound card and each time i reset it defaults back to the  laptops soundcard
[10:38] <ziadoz> couldnt see anything in there, dont really know what im looking for thoguh
[10:38] <zues_62> how can i fix this
[10:38] <nolimitsoya_> superkaramba/gdesklets alternative for xfce, anyone?
[10:38] <lisapc> dyrne, yeah. sound works great!  but not when I do the first boot of the day!  any ideas why?
[10:38] <ziadoz> basically though the laptop wont hibernate
[10:38] <lisapc> dyrne, so I always have to boot Ubuntu twice each morning
[10:38] <XubuntuLover> Jt_:Problem is knowing all which packages you need / are even available
[10:38] <cheeseboy> how do i open binary in terminal?
[10:38] <leftcase> ziadoz: Well it's under system --> preferences --> Power Management
[10:39] <nolimitsoya_> cheeseboy, type the name
[10:39] <lisapc> dyrne, shall I try your clommand at the fuirst boot?
[10:39] <HollywoodCode> hi
[10:39] <cheeseboy> i tried that
[10:39] <tjingboem> XubuntuLover, thanks for the tips :)
[10:39] <JT__> Yea i just need the codecs and Like MPEG, AVI, etc.
[10:39] <nolimitsoya_> cheeseboy, what are you attempting?
[10:39] <zues_62> surely someone knows
[10:39] <sittisal> cheeseboy: "./binaryname"
[10:39] <h1st0> cheeseboy: what are you trying to do exactly?
[10:39] <ziadoz> i'll take a look, leftcase
[10:39] <HollywoodCode> i need help anyone available?
[10:39] <dyrne> lisapc: i would. i honestly dont know though if that is the case.
[10:39] <cheeseboy> to run fwnes
[10:39] <XubuntuLover> tjingboem: good luck  :)
[10:39] <leftcase> ziadoz: There's an 'Actions' bit down at the bottom with a drop down menu that lets you select the action you wish to happen when the laptop lid is closed.
[10:39] <tjingboem> :)
[10:40] <nolimitsoya_> cheeseboy, is it a linux binary to begin with?
[10:40] <lisapc> dyrne, any other ideas to try as well?
[10:40] <zues_62> y does it keep reseting itself
[10:40] <cheeseboy> yes
[10:40] <HollywoodCode> i need help anyone available? please
[10:40] <leftcase> Make sure it's set to hibernate
[10:40] <lisapc> dyrne, would save me having to rebooot each morning
[10:40] <ziadoz> oh, i have that set leftcase, it still doesnt hibernate
[10:40] <ziadoz> it just locks the desktop screen
[10:40] <LjL> !ask
[10:40] <nolimitsoya_> cheeseboy, then set the execute bit and type the name
[10:40] <XubuntuLover> HollywoodCode: It is easier to see the question, and others, when you ask away rather than ask to ask  :)
[10:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:40] <cheeseboy> nolimitsoya_ , ?
[10:40] <zues_62> ok guys i am trying something
[10:40] <nolimitsoya_> cheeseboy, chmod +x <filename>
[10:41] <dyrne> lisapc: restarting that should work. maybe running alsamixer in terminal and messing with volumes while playing an mp3 or something. thats a very strange problem not sure
[10:41] <zues_62> i have a laptop pc and each time i reboot back into linux the soundcard resets itself to the INTERNAL LAPTOP card and i use a PCMA sound card
[10:41] <xose> ola
[10:41] <zues_62> how do i get it to use that one all the time
[10:41] <HollywoodCode> I am trying to setup GNUMP3d , i put my mp3's on a cd, and i want to copy them to /var/music, and it wonlt let me, says i dont have permission how do i do this please anyone help?
[10:41] <zues_62> i have the alsa drivers instaled
[10:41] <BlackDalek> my question - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10521/
[10:41] <AaronMT> any bash scripting guru's want to help me on something so obvious I cant figure it out
[10:41] <cheeseboy> bash: fwnes: command not foun
[10:41] <dyrne> AaronMT: what is the question?
[10:41] <nolimitsoya_> AaronMT, not a guru, but just ask away
[10:41] <cheeseboy> im in its folder..
[10:42] <nolimitsoya_> cheeseboy, then you didnt set the bit correctly
[10:42] <XubuntuLover> nolimitsoya_: is there a way to get individual scripts to automatically run in terminal without prompting me for what I want to do with the script after it has been flagged for execute?
[10:42] <cheeseboy> whatd i do wrong?
[10:42] <nolimitsoya_> ... or its not a linux binary...
[10:42] <leftcase> ziadoz: - What a bummer!
[10:42] <leftcase> ziadoz: I have a suggestion though, but it aint pretty
[10:42] <ziadoz> whats that
[10:42] <ziadoz> ?
[10:42] <d_ed> hey dudes. when I run gcc it doesn't automatically include libraries from /usr/include...now I have to keep adding -I /usr... where can I make it permanent?
[10:42] <nolimitsoya_> XubuntuLover, im not sure what you are asking. run that by me again
[10:43] <HollywoodCode> how do i get permission to copy files off a cd to a folder, please help anyone?
[10:43] <JT__> Hollyword
[10:43] <cheeseboy> nolimitsoya_ , did what you said
[10:43] <JT__> *wood
[10:43] <HollywoodCode> JT can u help?
[10:43] <nolimitsoya_> HollywoodCode, you need to be the owner of the folder you are cpoying too, or at least have priviliges
[10:43] <leftcase> ziadoz: First, make sure that the problem happens on other laptops of the same model as yours, so you can make sure it's definitely a problem with the laptop rather than configuration.
[10:43] <HollywoodCode> how do i get privalege to var\music?
[10:44] <leftcase> ziadoz: I'd be inclined to start a thread over at the ubuntu forums tbh
[10:44] <Billen> Easy question: I am getting a 404 on all download links for the 64 bit desktop version of ubuntu. Isn't there one?
[10:44] <JT__> You have to be root.
[10:44] <nolimitsoya_> HollywoodCode, why in gods name are you in /var to begin with?!
[10:44] <d_ed> HollywoodCode: /var/ is a reserved folder
[10:44] <d_ed> it's for logs and things which "vary"
[10:44] <h1st0> lol
[10:44] <sorush20> hi
[10:44] <leftcase> ziadox: Then, there are two links here to read through - but they involve quite a bit of work
[10:44] <sorush20> is there any other way
[10:44] <ziadoz> leftcase, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385399
[10:44] <lisapc> does opera run on edgy?
[10:44] <HollywoodCode> setting up gnump3d
[10:44] <d_ed> HollywoodCode: in short music should probably go in /media
[10:44] <cheeseboy> nolimitsoya_ , why won't it work?
[10:44] <ziadoz> i dont mind a bit of work, leftcase :)
[10:44] <HollywoodCode> setting up gnump3d
[10:45] <nolimitsoya_> cheeseboy, you did something wrong
[10:45] <sorush20> I want to be able to setup samba but I can't get it to work
[10:45] <sorush20> I'm in kubuntu
[10:45] <HollywoodCode> it says copy to var\music
[10:45] <d_ed> HollywoodCode: read "man hier"
[10:45] <sorush20> I just want simple free sharing
[10:45] <slippyr4> can anyone name any good puzzle games for ubuntu?
[10:45] <nolimitsoya_> !samba | sorush20
[10:45] <ubotu> sorush20: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:45] <HollywoodCode> how do i get privaleges on this username, i just set this up
[10:45] <leftcase> ziadoz: links are both in this post mate http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2099125
[10:45] <sorush20> how do I reset my ip tables to no settings
[10:45] <crdlb> slippyr4, enigma, fish-fillets
[10:45] <XubuntuLover> nolimitsoya_: I wrote a... reasdonably complex, script to run WoW under Wine, with all kinds of tweaks to start it in its own session and such for both bragging rights, best performance, and convineience. But every time I start the script, it prompts me for "Run" "View" "Cancel". and a box that asks. "Do this every tine with this TYPE of file". I want THIS file run in a terminal every time, but certaintly not all scripts by default.
[10:45] <ziadoz> cheers, leftcase
[10:45] <nolimitsoya_> HollywoodCode, you shouldnt be copying things to /var to begin with. stop, and rethink'
[10:45] <cheeseboy> nolimitsoya_ i copied and pasted what you had g-fundies@g-fundies-desktop:~/Desktop/fwNES$ chmod +x fwnes
[10:45] <cheeseboy> g-fundies@g-fundies-desktop:~/Desktop/fwNES$ fwnes
[10:45] <cheeseboy> bash: fwnes: command not found
[10:45] <slippyr4> crdlb, installing now, thanks
[10:45] <leftcase> no probs - sorry i couldn't be of more help
[10:46] <Billen> Easy Question: are there any working download links for Ubuntu 6.10 64 bit desktop version?
[10:46] <Kooka> cya all
[10:46] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: can't you set up a new user in /home and then put the files in there?
[10:46] <Julie> how can i make a shortcut with a file on the desktop like i used to do with windows?
[10:46] <HollywoodCode> can anyojne tell me how to change privaleges on a folder?
[10:46] <cables> Julie, right click > make link
[10:46] <nolimitsoya_> XubuntuLover, make a launcher for it and place it on the desktop, or make a .desktop file that adds a menu entry
[10:46] <LjL> HollywoodCode: man chmod
[10:46] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: chown and chmod commands
[10:46] <XubuntuLover> Billen: You mean the Alpha Windows installer?
[10:46] <nolimitsoya_> HollywoodCode, you should be doing that. stop and rethink
[10:46] <Julie> it says that i dont have permission... but im the root right now gksudo nautilus
[10:46] <BlackDalek> should I be concerned about this? it's not happened before - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10521/
[10:46] <nolimitsoya_> LjL, chmoding /var might not be the best idfea imo...
[10:47] <nolimitsoya_> *-f
[10:47] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: but research this further before doing anything
[10:47] <gtc> Hi all!  Any tips on getting a USB mouse wheel to work?  I do have "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" set...
[10:47] <XubuntuLover> nolimitsoya: Ok, thank you
[10:47] <Billen> XubuntuLover: I mean Desktop Edition   Ubuntu 6.10 - Supported to 2008 and have selected 64bit AMD and Intel computers
[10:47] <LjL> nolimitsoya_: you ask for rotten fish, i give you rotten fish. anyway if you need support for your thesis - no, it most definitely isn't a good idea. HollywoodCode read.
[10:47] <Billen> XubuntuLover: all download links give me a 404
[10:47] <HollywoodCode> i just want to copy and paste some files, do i type chmod in the console, keep the console up, and then copy and paste?
[10:47] <XubuntuLover> Billen: Ah, one sec
[10:48] <LjL> HollywoodCode: err... no.
[10:48] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: no, you can copy from the command line
[10:48] <Julie> it says that i dont have permission... but im the root right now gksudo nautilus
[10:48] <Billen> XubuntuLover : nice one. taking my links from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download of course
[10:48] <nolimitsoya_> HollywoodCode, as said, stop and rethink., you are doing very dangerous things right now
[10:48] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: I think you should read about UNIX commands
[10:48] <DisabledBobcat> What's the easiest way to get Gaim to run when my computer starts?
[10:48] <LjL> !startup > DisabledBobcat    (DisabledBobcat, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:48] <nolimitsoya_> DisabledBobcat, add it to the autorunlist :)
[10:48] <globe> what would happen if I mounted a device to a non-empty directory?
[10:48] <h1st0> DisabledBobcat: add it to Preferences > Sessions
[10:48] <Billen> XubuntuLover : one sec, might ahave found a working link here
[10:48] <HollywoodCode> please just help me
[10:49] <BlackDalek> yes? no? will my PC explode?
[10:49] <nolimitsoya_> globe, you wouldnt be able to access the former content till you umount
[10:49] <Julie> can someone help me? :(
[10:49] <slyfox> Is there a program or a way to see which mouse button is mapped how? I need to know which mouse buttons are my mouse buttons, if you knwo what I mean.
[10:49] <nolimitsoya_> HollywoodCode, you are being helped
[10:49] <crdlb> slyfox, xev
[10:49] <HollywoodCode> no i am not
[10:49] <d_ed> slyfox: type xev in a termina
[10:49] <nolimitsoya_> HollywoodCode, then we dissagree :)
[10:49] <h1st0> slyfox: xev maybe?
[10:49] <nolimitsoya_> -s
[10:49] <LjL> HollywoodCode: if you're asking how to hose your system, which you are, then i'm sorry but i'm not helping you with that.
[10:49] <HollywoodCode> i just want to copy a .mp3 to the folder /var/music, and it says i dont have privaleges, how do i copy this file then?
[10:49] <Billen> XubuntuLover : never mind, that link created a 24 kb iso :D
[10:50] <XubuntuLover> Billen: Uhh.... Ubuntu has GREATLY changed their web site since yesterday. DAMN! Looks very easy now from Ubuntu.com -> Get Ubuntu
[10:50] <LjL> HollywoodCode: type "gksudo nautilus" and do it from there.
[10:50] <nolimitsoya_> HollywoodCode, you shouldnt be doing that to begin with. for the last time: stop and rethink
[10:50] <Janne_Doe> Hi
[10:50] <slyfox> crdlb: d_ed: thanks
[10:50] <h1st0> HollywoodCode: You should'nt put it in there.
[10:50] <globe> nolimitsoya_: I figured so. if a program is set to write to a directory (/backup/weekly) and a tape drive is mounted to that directory normally but is for some reason unmounted when it is written to, then does it go to the filesystem?
[10:50] <h1st0> HollywoodCode: create a folder in yoru home directory to put the mp3 in.
[10:50] <d_ed> slyfox: np, the name's not that clera
[10:50] <nolimitsoya_> globe, its just copied to that dir
[10:50] <cheeseboy> how do i run binary from terminal?
[10:50] <d_ed> *clear
[10:50] <LjL> nolimitsoya_, h1st0: to be honest, which that's probably not the right idea according to the latest filesystem hierarchy recommendations, it's quite a common setup. think of /var/www -- that's the way apache sets it up by default under ubuntu...
[10:51] <Billen> XubuntuLover : went there...download now...selected Ubuntu 6.10 - Supported to 2008 and 64bit AMD and Intel computers and the ISO seems to be nowhere to be found :D
[10:51] <Julie> I'm trying to make a link with a file, but it says that i don't have permission to do so, but im the root right now gksudo nautilus somebody HELP
[10:51] <d_ed> cheeseboy: type the name of it "put ./ at the front if it's in the current directory"
[10:51] <globe> nolimitsoya_: okay.  thx.  I was just trying to get a better handle on how the mount system works
[10:51] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: are you running a streaming server for music?
[10:51] <BlackDalek> quack! squawk! Cluck! - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10521/
[10:51] <XubuntuLover> Billen: Ok, I am getting the same 404 error. May have ot do with the fact that they changed their web site so much recently
[10:51] <levander> I'm running "sudo aptitude update" for the first time in a long time.  It says it's automatically holding back linux-image-generic and linux-restricted-modules-generic.  And that it's holding back linux-headers-generic (says this on another line without saying anything about automatic).  I did install the nvidia hardware acceleration drivers and I'm wondering if this has something to do with these being held back.  Anybody know why it's
[10:51] <levander> holding them back?
[10:51] <Janne_Doe> I have a problem when I'm using multiple p2p client at the same time: for example, I'm using mlnet and azureus at the same time but azureus work well but not mlnet, when Azureus is shuted down, mlnet works....
[10:52] <kitche> LjL: I think they even mention music in their standard also think they put it in /var/music or some such if I remember correctly
[10:52] <dt> How do you reinstall GNOME?
[10:52] <levander> Janne_Doe: have you capped the download and upload bandwidth on them, so they have enough bandwidth to operate at the same time?
[10:52] <HollywoodCode> Pollywog yes i am
[10:52] <jhon_armless> 
[10:52] <h1st0> Janne_Doe: possible that they are trying to use the same ports?
[10:52] <Billen> XubuntuLover : ok. seems so. even http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-64bit.iso seems to be wrong. however the i386 version is linked ok.
[10:52] <nolimitsoya_> dt, apt-get install gnome
[10:52] <LjL> levander: because you have an older version of the nvidia drivers that the one that matches your available modules, i would suppose
[10:52] <bafoc> dt: apt-get install gnome*
[10:52] <bafoc> bt: hehe
[10:52] <bafoc> bt: j/k
[10:52] <levander> Janne_Doe: P2P will eat all your bandwidth available.
[10:52] <cheeseboy> d_ed, isnt working
[10:52] <levander> LjL: I've just got the ones out of the repository.
[10:52] <XubuntuLover> Billen: I found a work around...
[10:52] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: I think you should add a user to the system and put the music in their $HOME
[10:52] <jewbilee> How do I install Beryl on Dapper with nVidia drivers?
[10:52] <LjL> kitche: i think there's /srv or somesuch in the latest standard for that sort of things, but i doubt anyone is actually using it...
[10:52] <Janne_Doe> I set different port and I took care of the bandwish
[10:52] <_bt> bafoc, ??
[10:53] <Pollywog> and not in /var
[10:53] <Janne_Doe> bandwidht*
[10:53] <LjL> levander: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[10:53] <bafoc> bt: why do you need to re-install gnome?
[10:53] <_bt> bafoc: i dont
[10:53] <Julie>  I'm trying to make a link with a file, but it says that i don't have permission to do so, but im the root right now gksudo nautilus somebody HELP
[10:53] <XubuntuLover> Billen: Someone yell at me if I got this wrong, but on the main page, follow the Xubuntu website link, and download the Xubuntu AMD64 Server edition link. Once installed "sudo apt-get Ubuntu-desktop"
[10:53] <HollywoodCode> Pollywog, i already have one user, if i create another user, will i have to logged in as that user on this linux box in order to stream music when im at work?
[10:54] <LjL> Julie: no idea, but can't you just do it from a console? i'll probably be better able to help if you do it there.
[10:54] <Billen> XubuntuLover : not running amd ;)
[10:54] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: I don't think so
[10:54] <bafoc> _bt: you just said you needed to or did I miss something
[10:54] <jewbilee> How do I install Beryl on dapper with nVidia
[10:54] <LjL> !beryl > jewbilee    (jewbilee, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:54] <Julie> what do you mean console?
[10:54] <LjL> !cli | Julie
[10:54] <ubotu> Julie: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:54] <_bt> bafoc: <dt> How do you reinstall GNOME?
[10:54] <XubuntuLover> Billen: what system?
[10:54] <BlackDalek> rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10521/ rhubarb?
[10:55] <kitche> LjL: yep it's /srv aand your right not many follow it
[10:55] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: I think there are howtos for that and if you put the music in /var, by your logic you would need to be root to hear the music at work
[10:55] <bafoc> _bt: see, the screen is going to fast for my eyes... :-) soory
[10:55] <_bt> :)
[10:55] <will> Is there a way to customize the desktop menu?
[10:55] <Billen> XubuntuLover : laptop, nc6400
[10:55] <Julie> yes.... i did all that, what im saying is that right now, im the boss of my files... but i cant make a link
[10:55] <leftcase> goodnite folks
[10:55] <LjL> kitche: including Ubuntu itself, given that it uses /var/www. so again, i do think that /var/music is a "reasonable" choice, though i wouldn't do that on my system
[10:55] <will> The menu that pops up when I right click the desktop.
[10:55] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: you should be able to do what you want to do by adding a new user and streaming as that user
[10:56] <cables> Whenever I resume from suspend, the system runs about 3 degrees Celcius hotter than before I suspended it. Frequency scaling still works fine after resuming, so I'm wondering if there's some other explanation for why this is happening.
[10:56] <jewbilee> How do I upgrade to edgy from dapper without having to burn a new cd?
[10:56] <XubuntuLover> Billen: then i386, not AMD64. other than that directions should work the same
[10:56] <cables> !upgrade | jewbilee
[10:56] <ubotu> jewbilee: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:56] <Checkka> !firewall
[10:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:57] <bafoc> who here is also on the west coast?
[10:57] <Pollywog> so the Ubuntu site was updated recently?  I need to have a look
[10:57] <bafoc> of the us that is
[10:57] <bafoc> :-)
[10:57] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode is a dangerous fellow  ;)
[10:57] <Billen> XubuntuLover : that release for a 64 bit system? not as mentioned at the mainpage? oh well, I'll have a go :D
[10:58] <BlackDalek> question = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10521/ : answer = ?????? yes??? no??? maybe??? rhubarb??? sausage????
[10:58] <Julie> ubotu... what im saying is that i did the command in the terminal allready... gksudo nautilus.. but if i try to make a link of a file, it dosent work, it says i dont have permission
[10:58] <Checkka> Is firestarter an iptables front end?
[10:58] <Julie> what to do?
[10:58] <XubuntuLover> billen: HP 6400 is a 64bit?  one sec...
[10:58] <cables> Julie, Ubotu is a bot.
[10:58] <Pollywog> Julie he is a bot
[10:58] <cables> Pollywog, he?
[10:58] <Pollywog> it
[10:58] <Pollywog> she
[10:58] <Julie> ok well someone help me LOL
[10:58] <LjL> Julie, i'm *not* telling you to just type "gksudo nautilus" in a terminal, i'm telling you to *make the link* from there
[10:59] <Julie> from the terminal? how?
[10:59] <Pollywog> hey I bumped into a mannikin at JCPenney and said "excuse me"
[10:59] <LjL> Julie,  ln -s path-and-name-of-the-file path-and-name-of-the-link  will create a symlink in the terminal
[10:59] <LjL> Julie: since you appear to need root privileges for the link you're creating, you'll probably need a "sudo" in front of that
[10:59] <XubuntuLover> billen:  2GHz Intel Core Duo T2500 is not a 64 bit system, unless I am crazy
[10:59] <Billen> XubuntuLover : 64-bit Computing  	Yes
[11:00] <LjL> Julie: also, anyway, what weird events are leading you to having to create a symlink as root?
[11:00] <jlgaddis> Billen: xw6400?  That's 64-bit.
[11:00] <Julie> but i want to the link to go on the desktop
[11:00] <Julie> omg talk to me in windows language LOL
[11:00] <Billen> XubuntuLover : http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpresentation/index.php?product_id=HPYANC6400&style=printable
[11:00] <cables> Julie, you create the link there, then drag it to the desktop.
[11:01] <Pollywog> BlackDalek: I do not see a big problem in what you pasted
[11:01] <bafoc> Julie: hehe your on ubuntu linux channel... not ubuntu windows channel
[11:01] <kuma> hi, how can i get the address of my DNS ip?
[11:01] <LjL> Julie: if you want the link to go to the desktop, then you absolutely *don't* need root privileges for that.
[11:01] <Julie> bafoc.. i know... this is just really complicated the codes and stuff :P
[11:01] <hector> there was any problem with the last update?
[11:01] <BlackDalek> Pollywog: ok, so long as my 'puter isn't going to explode or something...
[11:01] <bafoc> Julie: yes... just remember... it's only a computer
[11:02] <Julie> ln -s path-and-name-of-the-file path-and-name-of-the-link....i dont get that at all
[11:02] <Pollywog> BlackDalek: no, it won't do that
[11:02] <Julie> but the file has a lock on it
[11:02] <bafoc> Julie: PM me I'll explain
[11:02] <LjL> Julie: a lock? linux doesn't support locks
[11:02] <kuma> hi, how can i get the address of my DNS ip?
[11:02] <Julie> but there a lock on it... i dunno what to tell you lol
[11:02] <Billen> oh well, gotta go
[11:02] <LjL> kuma: ask your ISP
[11:03] <hypn0> Julie: do you want to create a launcher for an app on desktop?
[11:03] <Julie> no
[11:03] <StoneNote> kuma, type /whois kuma <-- and then look in your irc client server window
[11:03] <LjL> kuma: if you mean that you already have it, and just don't know where it's contained - it's in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:03] <Julie> i want my folder ''my document'' that is in my external drive to be on my desktop
[11:03] <cables> Julie, hold on, let me go through this from the beginning.
[11:03] <CheshireViking> is there a webpage with codecs for linux? I'm looking for the "mwv1" codec so i can play a couple of videos, i've got an .exe to install the codec on my windows pc which allows me to convert them to wmv files via the windows machine, but i'd prefer to be able to convert/play them through linux, any suggestions?
[11:03] <kuma> StoneNote thx
[11:03] <StoneNote> yw
[11:03] <LjL> StoneNote: that's kuma's IP, not the IP of the DNS, though
[11:03] <cables> Julie, please go to the external drive and right click the My Documents folder, then click Make Link.
[11:03] <StoneNote> LjL, ahh my bad I misread the question
[11:04] <StoneNote> kula, sorry about that
[11:04] <XubuntuLover> Billen: I can't find where it says 64-bit
[11:04] <StoneNote> kuma sorry about that
[11:04] <cables> Julie, is the external drive a Windows drive?
[11:04] <Julie> yeah,... it says i dont have permission
[11:04] <kuma> StoneNote nvm
[11:04] <cables> Julie, Windows drive?
[11:04] <kitche> XubuntuLover x86_64
[11:04] <hector> I just did an update last night and Ubuntu crashed completly, i had to reinstall
[11:04] <Julie> ERROR, operation not permitted
[11:04] <kuma> LjL: there are 3 ip addresses there
[11:05] <Julie> i dunno what kind of drive.. how can i know witch kind it is?
[11:05] <LjL> kuma: it's normal to have two DNS servers, one primary and one secondary. are two of those addresses very similar to one another?
[11:05] <hector> someone knows if there were any issues about that
[11:05] <cables> Julie, is that a My Documents folder from Windows?
[11:05] <kuma> LjL kinda
[11:05] <bafoc> Julie: right click your desktop and choose create launcher, then for the command type nautillus /path/to/your/external/drive, add an icon and then click ok
[11:05] <Julie> ummmm, well i just made it from other folders.. i just created the file under that name
[11:06] <kuma> LjL: ok, i'll try that, why isn't that info in the ifconfig?
[11:06] <bafoc> typo "nautilus not nautillus"
[11:06] <Comrade_Sergei> when i try to run UT2004 it says "Missingini" whats that supposed to mean?
[11:06] <cables> Julie, try saving a file to that drive to test things
[11:06] <XubuntuLover> kitche, Billen says his laptop, HP nc6400 is a 64 bit system, but the only 64 I see is in the model number. I am fairly certain this is an i386 machine, or that at least Ubuntu i386 will work for it.
[11:06] <Julie> you meen like a document file?
[11:06] <LjL> kuma: those that have "nameserver" in front of that should be DNS servers. you can also always check if an IP address is a DNS server by doing  host www.google.com <ip-address>    (with www.google.com being as good as any other known-working site, of course)
[11:07] <cables> Julie, sure... it doesn't matter
[11:07] <Julie> ok brb
[11:07] <LjL> kuma, it isn't in ifconfig because ifconfig deals with the IP level and down, while the DNS protocol is at a higher level (much higher)
[11:07] <XubuntuLover> Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 Processor 1.83GHz Kitche, this is a x86_64 processor?
[11:07] <kuma> LjL: I see, thanks a lot :)
[11:07] <kitche> XubuntuLover: i386 will work on x86_64 since x86_64 is i386 with 64bit extenstions not true 64bit
[11:08] <kitche> XubuntuLover: it might does it have EMT memory add on
[11:08] <Julie> cables, i did, worked
[11:08] <XubuntuLover> ah, 64-bit support, unlike the AMD64 which is 64bit with x86_32 compatability kitche?
[11:08] <cables> Julie, ok.
[11:09] <Julie> im gonna try what bafoc said
[11:09] <cables> Julie, can you open a terminal?
[11:09] <Comrade_Sergei> when i try to run UT2004 it says "Missingini" whats that supposed to mean?
[11:09] <kitche> XubuntuLover: AMD64 is not true 64bit either
[11:09] <Julie> yes i can
[11:09] <cables> Julie, what did bafoc say?
[11:09] <ssdg> hello, I need assistance for changing default keyboard layout on a server install.
[11:09] <ssdg> (I'm french, sorry if my sentences looks stranges)
[11:09] <sambiase> hi...i mounted a NTFS HD with ntfsmount  .... the thing is that I cant access the folder as normal user...just as root...how to change this permission towards the folder containing the HD?
[11:09] <Julie>  Julie: right click your desktop and choose create launcher, then for the command type nautillus /path/to/your/external/drive, add an icon and then click ok
[11:09] <XubuntuLover> kitche searchin the entire spec, there is no instance of EMT
[11:09] <kitche> XubuntuLover: sparc is true 64bit
[11:09] <cables> Julie, that will sorta work but it's not ideal
[11:09] <Julie> do you want me to try it?
[11:09] <Pollywog> Comrade_Sergei: you see this every time you run the game?
[11:09] <kitche> XubuntuLover: just go with i386 less headaches :)
[11:10] <c0nv1ct> kitche: agreed :)
[11:10] <cables> Julie, let's try something else first.
[11:10] <Julie> ok
[11:10] <cables> !who | Julie
[11:10] <ubotu> Julie: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[11:10] <Julie> who julie...? lol
[11:10] <Absolute0> how do i upgrade from ubuntu 5.10 to ubuntu 6.10?
[11:10] <HollywoodCode> hey where is XMMX media player located on my hard drive, i installed it, now i cant find it, any one help please?
[11:10] <LjL> !upgrade > Absolute0    (Absolute0, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:10] <Julie> I Ubotu! LOL
[11:10] <nysosym> how can THIS use 60kb of RAM? http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8346/
[11:10] <Flannel> Absolute0: you need to upgrade through 6.06
[11:10] <LjL> HollywoodCode: you mean XMMS perhaps.
[11:11] <HollywoodCode> yes
[11:11] <cables> Julie, !who | Julie was a command to tell Ubotu to tell you to use my nick in front of messages to me :)
[11:11] <Pollywog> HollywoodCode: the command is xmms in small case
[11:11] <kitche> !upgrade| Absolute0 you will have to upgrade to dapper then to edgy first
[11:11] <ubotu> Absolute0 you will have to upgrade to dapper then to edgy first: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:11] <Pollywog> lower case
[11:11] <cables> Julie, do you know the path to that documents folder?
[11:11] <riaal_> please, what does svn checkout http:/.... mean? how do I use it in ubuntu?
[11:11] <Julie> !cables blabla
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cables blabla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <Julie> like that?
[11:11] <Checkka> is there a command to colorize my terminal for commands like 'diff'?
[11:11] <HollywoodCode> im trying to open a .mp3, and i want to set the deault plauyer
[11:11] <LjL> Hollywood: type  dpkg -L xmms | grep bin  and you'll know. i bet it's in /usr/bin/xmms
[11:11] <compilerwriter> How does one mount a windows floppy?
[11:11] <Comrade_Sergei> Pollywog, yes
[11:11] <ssdg> nobody know where the keyboard layout is defined?
[11:11] <Absolute0> will it be same as installing straight from version 6.10?
[11:11] <cables> Julie, not the right place to talk about this, let's deal with your link problem first.
[11:11] <Julie> yes i know the path
[11:11] <HollywoodCode> Ljl,where would it be installed at?
[11:11] <Absolute0> or i should stick with installing staight from the new cd?
[11:11] <LjL> compilerwriter:  mount /media/floppy  (or floppy0) should work
[11:11] <Pollywog> Comrade_Sergei: and the game does not start?
[11:11] <XubuntuLover> kitche I just did that recently. most of my problems with getting rid of Redmond was lack of full support for 64bit. many useprograms unavailable. I gave up and tried i386, and I am happy to say that my machine is now Redmond free, short a few NTFS formatted 500Gb drives
[11:11] <Flannel> Absolute0: more or less, yeah
[11:12] <Comrade_Sergei> Pollywog ive done it before, on this thius computer  but its not working now
[11:12] <HollywoodCode> so i can point to it
[11:12] <cables> Julie, can we PM? This is a bit too hectic
[11:12] <cafuego_> LjL: pmount
[11:12] <LjL> HollywoodCode: didn't i just say it?   ". i bet it's in /usr/bin/xmms"
[11:12] <Comrade_Sergei> Pollywog can i PM the short error to you
[11:12] <c0nv1ct> XubuntuLover: i made the mistake of buying XP x64 :(
[11:12] <Julie> what do you meen om
[11:12] <Pollywog> Comrade_Sergei: I have not played it in a while but I had to cd to the working directory and execute the game binary there
[11:12] <Julie> pm
[11:12] <Flannel> HollywoodCode: try `which xmms`
[11:12] <Hydr0p0nX> think i broke my install
[11:12] <Pollywog> Comrade_Sergei: send it
[11:12] <Absolute0> Flannel, are there any major changes in ubuntu 6.10?
[11:13] <cables> Julie, can you type this? /join #cables2
[11:13] <Hydr0p0nX> somehow or another i managed to install the desktop-edubuntu package
[11:13] <Absolute0> from 5.10?
[11:13] <riaal_> what is "svn checkout" ??
[11:13] <cafuego_> Absolute0: Kinda.
[11:13] <Flannel> Absolute0: ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606 and ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/610
[11:13] <XubuntuLover> c0nv1ct: I am SOOOO sorry, I regret getting into beta for that years ago. What a nightmare
[11:13] <cafuego_> Absolute0: How much ram do you have and do you use Gnome?
[11:13] <kitche> riaal_: subversion checkout you need subversion
[11:13] <compilerwriter> LjL: mount: /dev/ is not a block device
[11:13] <Absolute0> 320
[11:13] <Flannel> riaal_: subversion (svn) is a version control thing.  When you 'checkout' code, you're downloading it from the server.
[11:13] <XubuntuLover> c0nv1ct:I couldn't imagine actually PAYING to run that system
[11:13] <Absolute0> 328...
[11:13] <LjL> compilerwriter: try with floppy0 instead of floppy0. see also what cafuego_ said.
[11:13] <cafuego_> That should just do, i guess
[11:14] <c0nv1ct> XubuntuLover: i'm using a cracked Vista x64 now, cuz i feel i deserve it for free, XP x64 was a ripoff
[11:14] <HollywoodCode> Ljl  -- thank you so much!!!, your great!!
[11:14] <riaal_> oh okey, is "subversion" an apt? =S
[11:14] <ctrl_x> where do i save my data , mp3, movie file etc.
[11:14] <levander> LjL: sorry, had to get up a sec - http://pastebin.ca/396617
[11:14] <Flannel> riaal_: yep, that's the package name
[11:14] <LjL> ctrl_x: in your home directory.
[11:14] <levander> LjL: for the problem with kernel packages being held back
[11:14] <c0nv1ct> XubuntuLover: i rarely run it though :D
[11:14] <Checkka> is there a way to give more colors to my gnome terminal for easier reading of commands like 'diff'
[11:14] <XubuntuLover> c0nv1ct what do you want from vista? Curiousity?
[11:15] <ssdg> ok, nobody knows, thank you anyway
[11:15] <kitche> c0nv1ct: xp 64 was xp just with 2003 kernel :)
[11:15] <|NewUser|> cables: when system reboot the Grub show me menu to selection of OS. i select Ubuntu . then i press e for edit. now there is a tab root And kernel .. just tell me what is for root and kernel for what?
[11:15] <riaal_> Flannel, thanks
[11:15] <c0nv1ct> kitche: exactly, which is why so many programs have to be hacked to install right
[11:15] <cables> |NewUser|, why are you asking me?
[11:15] <ctrl_x> LjL, ok, but when i click my computer icon it show me file system where is my drive
[11:16] <c0nv1ct> kitche: they say "requires XP" blah blah, gotta edit the MSI to get it to friggn install
[11:16] <|NewUser|> cables: i am so mess up.. dont know what i define there.. grub not working fine.
[11:16] <cables> |NewUser|, don't ask me, ask everyone...
[11:16] <ctrl_x> LjL, i got 40Gb HDD
[11:16] <Flannel> |NewUser|: root is the root drive (where / is).  That's a parameter to the kernel, which tells GRUB what file the kernel is.
[11:16] <c0nv1ct> XubuntuLover: i was hoping for some improvements over XP, the only decent thing was the sound control for each app
[11:16] <LjL> levander: the file looks fine to me. however... you said that you ran "aptitude *update*", and that it held back packages? but that kind of message should come from "aptitude *upgrade*" i think. so which one have you run? (or, in other words, run update first, and only then upgrade :P)
[11:16] <XubuntuLover> Any experience here with installing Ubuntu on a PowerMac G3?
[11:16] <nosse> ctrl_x: you have "my computer" on ubuntu? that's weird
[11:17] <c0nv1ct> XubuntuLover: the improved start menu was kinda nice... but nothing i found was worth paying 400 bucks for
[11:17] <LjL> ctrl_x, weird indeed. don't you have a "Places" menu which lists, among other things, and entry for your home directory?
[11:17] <|NewUser|> Flannel: thanks m8 bit confused with that.. dont know whats the problem . Windows XP n Redhat Enterprise linux working fine .. but problem with Ubuntu.
[11:17] <dg10050> I need some help. A little while back I installed the kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu so I could use Kubuntu. However, apt-get has been telling me that there are some files that should be removed, like 50 of them. I was a little hesitant, but I let it remove them. I figured that they were just left over. Well this screwed up my Kubuntu install. It worked, but a lot of the main programs were gone. So I tried reinstalling the kubuntu-desktop p
[11:17] <dg10050> ackage, which worked, but now all of my settings are messed up. Now I just want to uninstall kubnutu-desktop completely and reinstall it. However, I can't find how to completely uninstall kubuntu-desktop and KDE. Can anyone help me?
[11:18] <wtfux> meh..
[11:18] <wtfux> Brb.
[11:18] <LjL> levander: failing that, the only thing i can thing of is that either 1) you have some third-party packages installed, even though you only have the standard repos enabled or 2) there's something broken in some of the latest security updates
[11:18] <|NewUser|> Flannel: one more thing can i chk Which one Volume for Ubuntu or For Another Linux Version . i have 3 Ext3 partitions. And1 swap.
[11:18] <XubuntuLover> c0nv1ct Funny you would mention the start menu. I read a review that the start menu was 27 people working for 7 months full time. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about what you are paying for  :)
[11:18] <Flannel> |NewUser|: what?
[11:18] <LjL> levander: the latter is a possibility, since other people seem to be saying there might be something wrong with some of the latest updates. myself, i cannot really check, since i don't use the nvidia driver from the repos anyway ;)
[11:19] <|NewUser|> Flannel: how can i check Which ext3 partition is for Ubuntu.. can i ?
[11:19] <c0nv1ct> XubuntuLover: wow, and i thought microsoft employed only the best :P
[11:19] <Flannel> |NewUser|: sure, where did you install it?
[11:19] <|NewUser|> Flannel: from CD
[11:19] <Flannel> |NewUser|: right, which partition did you install it to?
[11:20] <|NewUser|> Flannel: i think its hda6 .. but when i try to root as (hd0,6) its not going fine.
[11:20] <XubuntuLover> dg10050 This is an excellent example of why you keep imporetant files seperate from the system. I am quite certain doing a fresh install will be much less of a headache.
[11:20] <XubuntuLover> c0nv1ct 27 of the very best
[11:20] <Flannel> |NewUser|: that's because hda6, is hd0,5 in grub
[11:21] <madsrh> when  I return from hibernate the pc crashes with "pnp: failed to activate device 00:0b Can anyone help???
[11:21] <c0nv1ct> XubuntuLover: kbfx has only 6 developers, and I think its better
[11:21] <XubuntuLover> dg10050 is everything on one drive, and the only drive / partition you have aside from swap?
[11:21] <LjL> madsrh: it might be the soundcard...
[11:21] <|NewUser|> Flannel : so i set root as (hd0,5) there?
[11:21] <dg10050> xubuntulover: I asked on here before I let apt-get uninstall the files and people said it was probably fine. Gnome still works fine.
[11:21] <XubuntuLover> c0nv1ct don't know kbfx
[11:21] <LjL> madsrh: not sure how to fix that though, but google for that very error you just gave, i know for a fact that there are some postings about it (though possibly not specific to ubuntu)
[11:21] <Flannel> |NewUser|: no.  root=/dev/hda6 for a kernel option
[11:22] <topgun553> I'm hot cause i'm fly you ain't cause you not
[11:22] <|NewUser|> Flannel : And for root?
[11:22] <XubuntuLover> dg10050 are the settings a matter of just going through and rethemeing them, or are there many broken settings?
[11:22] <c0nv1ct> XubuntuLover: its a really nice start menu for kde, similar to the vista one, even in beta its better IMO
[11:22] <topgun553> If you need a bird, I get them by the flock
[11:22] <dg10050> Xubuntulover: Ubuntu is all on one partition, though it shares a drive with Vista
[11:22] <madsrh> LjL -> thanks, ill look into it
[11:23] <dg10050> Xubuntulover: there are lots of broken settings, and I'd rather just reinstall kubuntu-desktop if possible, though I could probably fix it eventually
[11:24] <madsrh> can I remove hibernate from the shutdown menu???
[11:24] <topgun553> Poetry in its purest form:
[11:24] <topgun553>  This is why im hot, shorty see the drop
[11:24] <topgun553> Asked me what I paid, and I say yeah, I paid a guap.
[11:24] <topgun553> And then I hit the switch, that take away the top,
[11:24] <topgun553> So chicks around the way, they call me Creame of the Crop.
[11:24] <topgun553> They hop in the car, I tell em All aboard
[11:24] <topgun553> We hit the studio, they say they like how I record.
[11:24] <topgun553> I gave em Black Train and I Did You Wrong,
[11:24] <XubuntuLover> dg10050 Considering how fast it is to reinstall, particularly with a Live CD, I would consider backing everything up that you want to save that is personal and unique (why backup programs that don't have CD keys you threw away?) and do a fresh install reformating the PARTITION
[11:25] <tom3> Should I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 or Vista?
[11:25] <dg10050> XubuntuLover: meh, I'll probably just use Gnome now, it's not really worth reinstalling
[11:25] <XubuntuLover> tom3 ouch, dude
[11:26] <Flannel> |NewUser|: the root line? hd0,5
[11:26] <madsrh> tom3 -> wait for Feisty!
[11:26] <rogue780> I have an application that I need to make work in the X environment, but I have no idea how to program for X...can someone point me in the right direction please?
[11:26] <Kronuz> hello
[11:26] <|NewUser|> Flannel: i tried to set it but.. nothing happens
[11:27] <rogue780> tom3, from someone who uses vista on one computer...just say no
[11:27] <Kronuz> hey, how is that "do as root" stuff done in the gnome?
[11:27] <iceonnet> is feisty the release that comes after edgy?
[11:27] <XubuntuLover> kronuz gksudo
[11:27] <Kronuz> (when it asks about the administrative password to be able to continue)
[11:27] <gumpish> yes
[11:27] <Kronuz> hmm
[11:27] <Kronuz> gksudo
[11:27] <rogue780> iceonnet, feisty is ubuntu 7.04. it is being released 19april2007
[11:27] <iceonnet> ok
[11:27] <iceonnet> oh sweet
[11:28] <rogue780> !feisty
[11:28] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:28] <rogue780> iceonnet, there's all the info you could want
[11:28] <XubuntuLover> kronuz DANGER WILL ROBINSON! Never log into gnome as root. I found out the hard way how EASY it is to kill everything with a mistake. IMHO
[11:28] <iceonnet> rogue780: thx :)
[11:28] <mojo> this is gonna sound really stupid.. but if i rmdir a dir that is not empty, it will properly delete all the contents too, right?
[11:29] <Flannel> XubuntuLover: That's why you shouldn't even enable the root account
[11:29] <nosse> rogue780: if you get some glue about coding a program for x11, i'd be interested too
[11:29] <Kronuz> gksudo is part of what?
[11:29] <rogue780> mojo, it will give you an error actually
[11:29] <mojo> rogue780: i did sudom rmdir dirname and it was non-empty and i did *not* get an error..  so that made me wonder
[11:29] <nosse> mojo: only if you use -R or -f otherwise it refuses to delete anything
[11:29] <rogue780> you have to use the rmdir -rf  to delete a directory that has contents I believe...
[11:29] <Flannel> Kronuz: 'gksu' package
[11:30] <mojo> nosse: well it's gone anyway... weird.  just wanted to be sure i wasn't orphaning files somehow.  wouldn't think so but just want to be sure
[11:30] <XubuntuLover> Flannel I wanted to try some "custom security", and wanted to make a lot of file permission changes quickly... think you can imagine from there. I am much more consiverative about how I manage my system. no binary = no program for me till I learn a lot more
[11:30] <nosse> mojo: might be a bug
[11:31] <iceonnet> !feisty
[11:31] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:31] <nosse> you could check alias for that rmdir, mayde there is ='rm -rf'
[11:31] <Kronuz> thanks Flannel :)
[11:31] <mojo> nosse: hmm... how could i ever know?  i did "sudo rmdir efika" in my /nfsroot directory and efika was not empty.  but it is gone now.
[11:32] <Flannel> XubuntuLover: `sudo -i` will get you a root shell.  There's absolutely no need to ever enable the root account
[11:32] <mojo> i don't think i'm gonna loose sleep over it but it bugged me that i didn't get an error on non-empty dir
[11:32] <lisapc> does second life application run on Ubuntu?
[11:32] <synic> ??fesisty
[11:32] <synic> ??fesist??feisty
[11:33] <synic> d'oh
[11:33] <Kronuz> Flannel, and then how do you use gksudo?
[11:33] <bafoc> wb Pici
[11:33] <sisplau> oh my cat
[11:33] <XubuntuLover> Question: I had found an awsome music player before I reinstalled my system to get rid of Redmond, and utilize the entire drive, and now I can't remember the name of it. It is the only program I have ever found that does "on the fly" library search, and saves both library and play lists as MySQL. anyone know? The first option on install was "What type of database would you like to use"
[11:33] <Flannel> Kronuz: sudo/gksudo don't use the root account
[11:33] <colbert> Flannel: What do you mean? I am confused about root and accounts is there link that explains it ?
[11:33] <Kronuz> but I mean, how do you setup certain apps to open with gksudo?
[11:33] <Slart> XubuntuLover: banshee? amarok? audacious?
[11:33] <Flannel> !sudo | colbert
[11:33] <ubotu> colbert: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:34] <cables> Kronuz, in the menu?
[11:34] <nosse> XubuntuLover: maybe amarok
[11:34] <colbert> thx!
[11:34] <sisplau> i use feisty
[11:34] <XubuntuLover> not amarok
[11:34] <Kronuz> yep
[11:34] <|NewUser|> Flannel: can i paste something in ur pm if u dont mind? its return me 5/6 lines or paste another place?
[11:34] <Kronuz> how do one set those in the menu?
[11:34] <Slart> XubuntuLover: I think amarok lets yo chose between mysql and sqllite at the start
[11:34] <cables> Kronuz, you need to edit the menu entry
[11:34] <Onburiiku> I've got a fairly simple question; Is there a program similar to VMWare or Virtual PC that will allow me to boot my internal harddrive (Ubuntu runs off my ext drive) and run windows off it inside Ubuntu?
[11:35] <Flannel> colbert: root is a special user in *nix, one that can do anything.  In ubuntu, the root login is disabled (root can never login), which has some benefits.  In order to do things that require special privledges (installing software, etc), we use sudo (or a related GUI version) to temporarily get permission to do so
[11:35] <cables> Kronuz, right click on Applications menu, Edit Menus, select the item, edit it, and put gksudo before the command
[11:35] <synic> where can I ask questions about feisty
[11:35] <synic> ?
[11:35] <Flannel> !paste | |NewUser|
[11:35] <ubotu> |NewUser|: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:35] <brophat> is the same install disk used for 64 bit intel as well as 64 bit amd?
[11:35] <Flannel> synic: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[11:35] <kitche> Onburiiku: vmware but you can't boot windows unless you installed windows using vmware
[11:35] <riaal_>  modprobe ath_pci
[11:35] <riaal_> FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/net/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[11:35] <riaal_> *cry*
[11:36] <Kronuz> and what about the icons overlays?
[11:36] <riaal_> anyone understands that? =(
[11:36] <iceonnet> !feisty
[11:36] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:36] <colbert> Flannel: Ahh, so that is the main security measure rite? But then if I can just enter my password to get root then what is the difference?
[11:36] <XubuntuLover> slart hmm.... The feature I loved was that search results were displayed as you type, and from the results you could click "artist" "genere" or whatever elements of a id3tag and cross reference new search
[11:36] <ompaul> synic, #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <iceonnet> synic: at #ubuntu+1
[11:37] <XubuntuLover> slart if it is Amarok, or if Amarok has that feature, guess I need to poke at it some more :/
[11:37] <Kronuz> also, how can I make gksudo load the apps with the same gnome theme that the current user is using?
[11:37] <XubuntuLover> ubotu alpha to release in 1 month??
[11:37] <Onburiiku> Kitche: Would it be possible to tell VMWare's BIOS (or whatever the equivalent is) to boot from the drive instead of load whatever OS is on the virtual machine?
[11:37] <greg_> what package do i need to download to get the latest kernel
[11:37] <K-Rich> i think i'm gonna finally updaye to edgy from dapper
[11:37] <XubuntuLover> ubotu what about beta?
[11:37] <Flannel> XubuntuLover: feisty is already alpha, beta releases in a week.
[11:37] <Flannel> XubuntuLover: see the release schedule for full details
[11:37] <brophat> is the same install disk used for 64 bit intel as well as 64 bit amd?
[11:38] <kitche> Onburiiku: no since windows needs to be installed in a vmware to do what you want even if using a drive
[11:38] <Flannel> colbert: with 'root', you have to give the single root password to anyone who you want to be able to make changes.  And then, they have full control over the entire machine, as root.
[11:38] <XubuntuLover> brophat In my experience, i386 works great, and has many fewer problems than the 64 bit version
[11:39] <Onburiiku> kitche: Okay, thank you
[11:39] <kski> what's the difference between kernels 2.4 and 2.6?
[11:39] <Flannel> colbert: with sudo, each person has their own password (so it's easy to change, if something goes awry), you can customize exactly what sudo lets them do (or not do), and by not having a root login, attackers need to figure out both the password, and the username
[11:39] <bafoc> kski: a ton... check out kernel.org
[11:39] <XubuntuLover> brophat I just switched. It is slightly slower on the desktop, but all programs seem to run faster / more stable
[11:39] <brophat> XubuntuLover is the same cd used to install 64 bit intel as well as the 64 bit amd?
[11:39] <XubuntuLover> brophat as far as I know
[11:39] <brophat> thanks bro
[11:40] <colbert> Flannel: Oh ok. So if I always run as root then I could mess up stuff easy.. but that makes it limited to a specific task i need the pword for everytime rite?
[11:40] <Flannel> colbert: Er... You *dont* run as root 'all the time', ever.  That's one of the biggest problems with windows.
[11:40] <XubuntuLover> brophat sorry, clarification, I am running a AMD64 FX 3200
[11:40] <bafoc> wb razzorz
[11:40] <nothlit> colbert: theres a 15 minute session
[11:40] <bafoc> hehe
[11:40] <razzorz> piss me off
[11:40] <razzorz> how do i reg my nic again
[11:40] <razzorz> mind my spelling
[11:40] <sisplau> :O
[11:41] <colbert> Flannel: sorry that's what i meant hehe.. that the benefit is that it's limited
[11:41] <bafoc> type /msg nickserv identify "yourpassword"
[11:41] <ompaul> !language > razzorz
[11:41] <bafoc> guess if you don't add the "T" to the end of piss you get slammed for it?
[11:43] <XubuntuLover> is "stability", stable versus beta, a matter of what repositories I put in my sources.list? basically, with a 6.10 live install, and adding multiverse to the list, or only if I apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:43] <bafoc> ompaul: tad overboard don't you think?
[11:43] <ompaul> bafoc, na a removal would be overboard - lets keep it in check that way it is easy to spot the exception
[11:44] <greg_> what is, or how do i find out what the latest kernel released for ubuntu is?
[11:45] <ladonna> just performed a clean install of edgy. need help configuring a atheros chipset pci wifi card
[11:45] <ompaul> XubuntuLover, multiverse is a range of "non free software" that can be included in any distro, at that stage sudo apt-get update is needed to "see" what is in the repo
[11:46] <Absolute0> does update manager use different files than apt-get?
[11:46] <ompaul> greg_, you want the latest for your version in which case a >>sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade <<  does the trick
[11:46] <ompaul> Absolute0, no
[11:46] <JohnPhys> is there any way I can tell if my swap partition is active?  I'm using dapper
[11:47] <Absolute0> so i messed everything up!
[11:47] <Absolute0> :(
[11:47] <Onburiiku> I've got it!
[11:47] <XubuntuLover> Absolute0 though each updater does have some seperate scripts, they all share the same sources.list
[11:47] <ompaul> JohnPhys, type "free"
[11:47] <greg_> ompaul, thanks but i dont want to upgrade my whole system, just the kernel
[11:47] <Onburiiku> I convert my phicical computer to a VMware applance using VMWare converter, then run VMWare workstaion on Ubuntu and I have my windows computer!
[11:47] <Onburiiku> Yay!
[11:47] <Onburiiku> First thing's first though, I need to re-install Ubuntu.
[11:48] <Absolute0> XubuntuLover, is there a way i can restore all the config files to default?
[11:48] <ladonna> do i need to use madwifi for a atheros wifi card?
[11:48] <crdlb> ladonna, yes
[11:48] <XubuntuLover> Absulute0 what did you do exactly?
[11:48] <ladonna> crdlb i have been trying forever to get this to work
[11:48] <Absolute0> i changes from breeze to dapper
[11:48] <ompaul> greg_, not supported - but you can run any kernel you want the most up to date version you have is seen with "uname -a" but you don't randomly mix kernels from different ubuntus - that would be like in some other place using win.com from one version with another if they still use that notiation but that is all I can think of by way of explaining it
[11:48] <Absolute0> i'll just change back
[11:48] <Absolute0> lol
[11:48] <crdlb> ladonna, did you install linux-restricted-modules ?
[11:49] <XubuntuLover> Absolute ... you want to unupdate?
[11:49] <ladonna> crdlb i just did a clean install, i wanted to start from scratch
[11:49] <ompaul> Absolute0, you do that and then do; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get distupgrade << there is no way back if you did some of it
[11:49] <ladonna> crdlb will this work http://www.heathenx.org/hx_madwifi.html
[11:50] <makuseru> how can i check the version of a program?
[11:50] <assasukasse> hi what is the command for deleting the old kernels
[11:50] <greg_> ompaul, i run gentoo most of the time.  i'm used to compiling kernels from scratch.  i just really dont feel like it right now.  i just want my wireless card to work so i can get back to programming on the couch
[11:50] <Absolute0> no i still want to update
[11:50] <Absolute0> but it didnt work...
[11:51] <greg_> ompaul, thanks for the info
[11:51] <ompaul> !wireless > greg_ (check the message from the bot)
[11:51] <Absolute0> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:51] <Absolute0> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:51] <XubuntuLover> ompaul uhh... that brings up a question for me. I added multiverse to my repositories and when I apt-get dist-upgrade,, there is now a new kernel it starts up in that seems to crash relativly more often. Grub lists both, and just choosing the old one seems to work...
[11:52] <Absolute0> how can i fix that?
[11:52] <ompaul> Absolute0, so I have one question for you, can you paste your sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url please
[11:52] <ompaul> XubuntuLover, did you jump one version or two?
[11:52] <XubuntuLover> Absolute0 I get that when I add repositories that don't keep versions of packages for my system.
[11:53] <krich> i'm having an issue with an 'sudo apt-get upgrade' http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10531/ anyone able to help ?
[11:53] <crdlb> ladonna, you shouldn't need to do that
[11:53] <yurimxpxman> do you guys know whether I can install the shockwave plugin in the Linux version of Firefox using wine?
[11:53] <XubuntuLover> ompaul: only the last number changed. ???.10 -> ???.11
[11:53] <wxrkny> is any FTP software installed automatically with the LAMP install in 6.10?
[11:53] <Absolute0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10532/
[11:54] <Absolute0> i am an idiot
[11:54] <Chousuke> wxrkny: server?
[11:54] <ladonna> crdlb okay, im at a lost very new to linux
[11:54] <Absolute0> thers only one uncommented line!
[11:54] <ompaul> XubuntuLover, that is the kernel that should not do that
[11:54] <wxrkny> yes the server
[11:54] <PirateHead> yurimxpxman: that sounds unlikely, unless you're running the Windows version of Firefox in wine.
[11:54] <ompaul> XubuntuLover what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:54] <JohnPhys> ompaul: "free" returns and says that there is a total of 0 for "Swap"
[11:54] <Chousuke> wxrkny: I doubt it.
[11:54] <crdlb> ladonna, just type: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:54] <yurimxpxman> PirateHead: I got the win32 version of Firefox running Shockwave just fine, but that method is awkward
[11:54] <Absolute0> XubuntuLover, so whats my problem?
[11:54] <crashputer> Hi all
[11:55] <bafoc> hi
[11:55] <wxrkny> I need a way to transfer files to the webserver, should I set up FTP or is there a better way of doing this?
[11:55] <ompaul> JohnPhys, and so I guess (A) there is no swap showing in your /etc/fstab
[11:55] <cafuego_> wxrkny: scp
[11:55] <ompaul> JohnPhys, (B) maybe you have not installed the system
[11:55] <PirateHead> yurimxpxman: yes, that method is awkward. You want to somehow allow Wine to run Shockwave while allowing native linux to handle Firefox, though? I don't think you can do that without serious fiddling.
[11:55] <PirateHead> Hello crashputer.
[11:56] <XubuntuLover> Absolute0 I don't know. I only know how to fix the things I have broken before. I am new and only broken edgy several dozen times  :)
[11:56] <yurimxpxman> PirateHead: I read somewhere that someone got it working, but they were charging for their script :(
[11:56] <JohnPhys> ompaul:  it *used* to swap, though I did mess around with it, unfortunately I'm not sure what I could have done
[11:56] <Absolute0> i'll just get edgy and reinstall everything...
[11:56] <Absolute0> :(
[11:56] <ladonna> crdlb after this what will need to be done? will the driver for my card be loaded?
[11:56] <ompaul> JohnPhys, well you could have disabled it
[11:56] <XubuntuLover> ompaul I installed from 6.10 Live i386
[11:56] <bieb> Is there a volume size limit? I want to connect 5 750gb drives to a raid card in a backup server running Ubuntu and rsnapshot
[11:57] <JohnPhys> ompaul:  can you point me in a direction to re-enable it?
[11:57] <crashputer> I am having trouble setting up my video card (Sapphire X1550) in X using either the open source or the ATI proprietary driver. Has anybody had an issue with this?
[11:57] <PirateHead> yurimxpxman: One of the wonderful things about Ubuntu is that, with enough hacking, you can get just about anything to work -- but if it's something wierd like what you're asking for, chances are it takes a lot of jiggery pokery to get it just right. I don't doubt that somebody got it working, and if they're charging for their script, it's time to decide how much that functionality is worth...
[11:57] <PirateHead> ...to you in terms of time spent hacking or money.
[11:57] <XubuntuLover> onpaul I am primarly using Xubuntu, but also have ubuntu-desktop
[11:57] <ompaul> JohnPhys, paste cat /etc/fstab and sudo fdisk -l into paste.ubuntu-nl.org and tell us the URL
[11:57] <crdlb> ladonna, that's all (it may even already be installed)
[11:57] <JohnPhys> will do
[11:58] <FP> Ciao a tutti
[11:58] <ladonna> crdlb im going to give this a shot, can i post back with results?
[11:58] <ctrl_x> is there any book available on net to get familiar to ubuntu 6.06
[11:58] <crdlb> ladonna, of course :)
[11:58] <ladonna> crdlb thank you....
[11:58] <XubuntuLover> Absolute0: I never knew about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org before. that is really cool. thank you
[11:58] <kitche> yurimxpxman: if you installed flash I bet you have shockwave about:plugins should tell you
[11:59] <PirateHead> ctrl_x: There are general-purpose unix/linux/posix books, and there is lots of available reading material. Are you looking for something graphical and Ubuntu-specific?
[11:59] <FreeKFC_Guy> I cant install anything now because of corrupted samba installation - need help
[11:59] <Joe_CoT> .
[11:59] <PirateHead> FreeKFC_Guy: can you use apt-get to uninstall samba?
[11:59] <crashputer> I am using Ubuntu 6.06 x64 on Intel Core2 Duo / 945P... I can only get my video card to work in VESA mode.
[12:00] <FreeKFC_Guy> i tried to uninstall through synaptic
[12:00] <yurimxpxman> kitche: Flash doesn't include Shockwave.. they're two very separate projects
[12:00] <ctrl_x> PirateHead, Yes for ubuntu only, easy to understand
[12:00] <PirateHead> ctrl_x: I think there is some stuff available, but I'm not sure as to the quality or completeness. Let me see if I can find a link.
[12:00] <kitche> yurimxpxman: hmm odd how I install Flash but when I do about:plugins it says flash then there is another entry for shockwave