=== Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-12823.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu === aidanr [n=aidanr@83.147.134.5] has joined #xubuntu === Mordicu2 [n=ivan@APuteaux-154-1-43-84.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #xubuntu [] === squirrelpimp [n=squirrel@2001:6f8:915:0:230:1bff:feb9:742b] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-37-54.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === ForsakenSou1 [n=Il1an@87.118.161.9] has left #xubuntu [] === vrkhans [n=hkhan@cpe-65-185-119-90.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:12] hi i dont know what i did, i lost my application button on my taskbar [01:13] does there any way to get it back [01:13] right click on the taskbar.... [01:13] ghoose add [01:13] select application from the list [01:15] make that xfce menu === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-254-148.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] I dont see any application button [01:16] there is an xface menue [01:16] that one [01:16] but the what happen to the old one [01:16] which says application [01:16] no idea.... [01:17] try [Ctrl] [alt] [bkspc] that witll restart your desktop === dk_ii [n=Quake@dsl-217-155-41-100.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Prisoner_ [n=redstick@ip24-254-33-54.br.br.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:25] hello all [01:26] *wave* Prisoner_ [01:26] hola [01:26] Xubuntu rocks [01:27] I need to try and get my webcam working === vidd_laptop has never heard any success stories about web cams [01:28] I did some research on webcams and it looks like mine might work, I have to download and install something, can't remember what [01:29] I have it printed out somewhere === vrkhans [n=hkhan@cpe-65-185-119-90.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:31] wb vrkhans [01:31] did it work? [01:31] hi [01:31] it work [01:31] cool [01:32] but does there any way i can reset my desktop to the default [01:32] like i install [01:32] when i install it === vrkhans [n=hkhan@cpe-65-185-119-90.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:33] sorry [01:33] back again [01:34] there IS a way.... [01:34] make a new user,,,, [01:34] hmm [01:34] give it sudo rights,,,, [01:34] log in to it, [01:35] how i can make a new user [01:35] mkuser [01:35] or [01:35] ;-) [01:35] something else [01:36] there is a users thing in the system menu [01:36] when you log in to the new user.... [01:37] you want to delete the entire /.config file of your old user, [01:37] let me try [01:37] i just created a new user [01:37] now let see how it work [01:37] copy the entire /.config folder of the new user into the old user [01:37] ok [01:38] i will be back === vrkhans [n=hkhan@cpe-65-185-119-90.woh.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [01:45] Hi [01:45] I have a proble using the sudoer file. Could anyone take a look at this report: [01:45] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/92401 [01:45] Malone bug 92401 in sudo "regular user can't start admin application with sudo as specified in sudoers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [01:46] I am not sure why this doesn't work... any help appreciated === vrkhans [n=hkhan@cpe-65-185-119-90.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:03] welcome back [02:03] hi any body here using mutt fechmail and procmail [02:03] i just install it [02:04] not I [02:04] Prisoner_: are you useing [02:04] these [02:04] vrkhans, did you get your default desktop back? [02:04] vidd_laptop: ya thanks :-) [02:05] got it [02:05] Prisoner_: are you using mutt === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:05] Thunderbird [02:06] hmm === vidd_laptop uses thundarbird as well [02:06] no i want to learn how to use mutt and fetch mail and proc mail [02:06] I was able to copy all my info from Thunderbird in WIndows to Xubuntu [02:13] Prisoner_, you fire M$ after the relocaton of mail? [02:13] lol [02:13] I seldome boot XP anymore [02:14] I still don't have a DVD authoring program like Nero on Linux yet, and I don't have a Linux equivalent of Acronis True Image Backup yet [02:14] what DO you boot it for? [02:15] lin-nero dont work? [02:15] nero has a linux version now [02:15] I don't have it [02:16] well...so ive heard anyway [02:16] I went to the Nero site and couldn't find it [02:16] thats odd....id think they would have that as a big banner on thier site [02:17] maybe I need to go look again [02:20] However, I did find this cool program for linux that took an MPEG file that was in PAL in converted it to a file that was NTSC suitable for DVD [02:20] I burned it in Nero on the Windows site and it worked well === K3nto [n=k3nt@dhcp42-151.iqltvu.northwestel.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:22] can somebody help me with getting wireless working with ubuntu? [02:22] xubuntu* [02:23] K3nto, sure [02:23] what card you using? [02:23] haven't tried anythign WiFi yet [02:23] by the way, are you a ham? === vidd_laptop has [02:23] linksys pci card [02:23] its a lptop [02:24] run lspci | grep Network [02:24] post the output [02:25] ok [02:25] !paste | K3nto [02:25] K3nto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [02:25] the terminal is not on the desktop. how do i put it there (for future reference. i can get to it np [02:28] ? [02:29] anyway, heres the outout: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10423/ [02:29] you have the same card as me... [02:30] its easy [02:30] k [02:30] i know ubuntu, but xfce is alien to me [02:30] what version you running? [02:30] 6.06 [02:30] dapper, edgy, or fiesty? [02:30] the latest right? [02:30] edgy [02:31] 6.06 is dapper, 6.10 is edgy, 7.04 is fiesty [02:31] nuts [02:32] dont know how i ended up with dapper, but i guess i got that one. (in xubuntu). im on my main pc (ubuntu edgy) [02:32] u know how to enable the multi and universe repo's? [02:32] yep [02:32] you need to enable them [02:33] then sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter [02:35] couldnt find the package (prolly cause the card doesnt work?) [02:35] you have the repo's added and run sudo apt-get reload? [02:36] and do you have network access via the integrated NIC? [02:36] could not download all repository indexes [02:37] ok hold on them [02:37] are you connected? [02:37] no, the laptop only has wireless. thats why i had to get on my main pc [02:38] you dont have an integrated wired card? [02:38] nope [02:38] hmmmm. [02:38] let me do some research.... [02:39] I download software for my UPS, can't find where it went === icicled [n=icicled@adsl-209-30-164-212.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === vrkhans [n=hkhan@cpe-65-185-119-90.woh.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [02:41] K3nto, http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/ [02:41] I want the smallest setup for my boys that will play dvd's and avi/mpeg/divx movies ... should I got xubuntu, or ubuntu-server, then just apt-get mplayer ? [02:42] K3nto: you want the proper way, or the easy way ? [02:42] either [02:42] proper i guess [02:42] sponix, im TELLING him the easy way [02:42] AND the proper way [02:42] vidd_laptop: ndiswrapper ? [02:42] hell nop [02:42] vidd_laptop: sorry for intruding, please continue ;) [02:43] the two step method [02:43] ok [02:43] K3nto: ignore me, I'm a n00b ;) [02:43] theres like 50 on tha page [02:43] which one do i get? [02:43] K3nto, dl the latest version [02:43] ok [02:44] if its the one i think it is.....the one used in fiesty.....it will LOAD the firmware as well [02:47] ok i have ubuntu 6.10 but xubuntu 6.06? [02:47] retarded [02:47] vidd_laptop: when you get K3nto up and going, if you have a sec I'd like a quick overview of the process. I ended up using the win2k/xp driver from dell with ndiswrapper-1.8 and blocking the linux bcm43xx module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to make mine work... With the Linux module it would detect, and even find the AP, just not send packets (for me) -- I'm pretty sure [02:48] my wifi chip is a dell 1390 [02:48] K3nto, dont matter [02:48] k [02:49] while this is going, how can i put shortcuts on the desktop [02:49] its flippin confusing [02:50] K3nto, no idea here [02:50] see. xfce.... [02:51] sponix, you will need to un blacklist the bcm43xx, and purge ALL the ndiswrapper crap [02:51] activate the multi and universe repo's [02:52] then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter [02:52] then sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh [02:53] temporary failure in resolution? [02:53] K3nto, huh? [02:53] vidd_laptop: and then ? [02:54] set up your network [02:54] told ya...2 steps [02:54] vidd_laptop: thats it, it gives the proper module, and so forth ? [02:54] vidd_laptop: on the config, what device does it show as wlan0 or eth1 ? [02:54] yep === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [02:54] eth1 [02:55] yeah its not installing [02:55] hmm [02:55] what is the error messgae? [02:55] and the module name shows as what bcm43xx-fwcutter ? [02:56] sponix, shows as bcm43xx [02:56] Resolving boredlink.googlepages.com... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. [02:56] vidd_laptop: umm, but you had me blacklist bcm43xx still, correct ? [02:56] crap, I see _un_blacklist bcm43xx you said, sorry [02:57] ok, getting ready to give it a shot [02:57] brb [02:57] gl sponix [02:57] K3nto, http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/ [02:57] TRY THAT [02:58] i got http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_005-2_i386.deb [02:58] and i put it on the xubuntu one [02:58] and i got that error [02:58] ??? [02:59] tells me something about extracting older firmware [02:59] did you download the file? [02:59] going to try giving it a shot with the module though [02:59] ....yeah [03:00] I just ran the /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh as root [03:00] and it did the download [03:00] what happened when you copied the file to the new pc? [03:01] well, it appeared on the desktop. at which point i proceeeded with a double click operation followed by the error mentioned above === Centinul [n=CoreyJV@c-66-30-51-189.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:02] is there a DVD ISO of Xubuntu? [03:02] hmm, I ran apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter on the laptop, then the /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh ... thats all I need riiight ? [03:02] Centinul: just burn the cd one to a dvd. worked for me [03:02] sponix, yes...just need to set up your network [03:02] hmmm interesting never thought of that [03:03] vidd_laptop: what now lol [03:04] im not sure [03:04] which version did you dl K3nto ? [03:05] http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_005-2_i386.deb [03:05] get the 006 [03:07] K3nto, it would be SO much easier if you had a network cable to your lappy [03:07] =] [03:07] no nic card [03:07] lol [03:08] so you dl it to the desktop...what does it show up as? [03:08] a box icon? [03:08] yes [03:08] copy it to disk [usb whatever] [03:09] did that [03:09] then copy it to the new computer [03:09] did that [03:10] what does it look like on the new lappy? [03:10] a box icon [03:10] what options you get when you right click on it? [03:12] open with GDebi [03:12] open with other [03:13] extract... [03:13] vidd_laptop: hmm, got it working .. Thanks [03:13] sponix, cool [03:13] vidd_laptop: wanna here the funny part ? I was getting 2.5MB/s transfers before with the win driver, now I'm getting 18-20KB/s ... Honestly ;) [03:14] vidd_laptop: needless to say, I might try switching back, and see if its the driver/module, or if its just my network being under higher load right now [03:14] sponix, =\ [03:15] K3nto, open with gdebi [03:15] ok [03:16] you should get prompted to enter your password [03:16] i did the first time [03:16] D'OH.....you need the firmware! [03:16] now i get to the package installer and i have teh option to reinstall [03:17] give me a sec...... [03:17] kk === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [03:18] you need to get http://svit.epfl.ch/stuff/wl_apsta.o. [03:18] then sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` [03:19] where is the path to the second file i told you to get === Akuma_ [n=aaa@modemcable213.191-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:19] sorry K3nto i forgot you have no access =] === aios [n=aaa@modemcable213.191-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:21] ok its on the new laptop [03:21] wl_apsta.o [03:21] then sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` [03:21] where is the path to the second file i told you to get [03:21] o ok === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-102-176-127.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:24] cannot open input file [03:25] input il* [03:25] input file* [03:25] nvm its a goin [03:25] vidd_laptop: ok, network is under a bit of load, but even at that I went from 20KB/s to 550KB/s going back to the bcmwl5.inf && ndiswrapper-1.8 ... I love Linux, and like to support it, but if the win driver in Linux gets me that much of a speed boost -- I'm sticking with it :P [03:26] thats your choice === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [03:27] K3nto, awesome [03:27] ok im getting the same error [03:27] vidd_laptop: I'm getting corrupt in my old age, I even have wine/crossover with dvdshrink, utorrent, && ms office ... man I'm sick [03:27] the fw you game me worked [03:27] but the fwcutter doesnt [03:29] is it asking you to get a file or to configure it during its install? [03:29] no [03:29] it did the first time [03:30] is debian still one of the smallest installs around ? [03:30] I'm debating if I should put it on the kids box instead of ubuntu, the machine they have only has a 4gig drive [03:31] K3nto, try getting the fwcutter from http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb [03:32] its a *buntu .deb and not a debian .deb [03:32] it MIGHT be the issue [03:32] ok [03:33] sponix, if you are looking for an ULTRA-ultra lightwieght distro.....get Damn Small Linux [03:34] vidd_laptop: might look into that, but a bare server install of ubuntu && just installing xfce4 and mplayer might work ok as well [03:35] vidd_laptop: thinking xubuntu/mplayer/vlc ... can probably get that on there in under a gig [03:36] screw this im gonna get ubuntu [03:36] K3nto, you will have the same issue with ubuntu..... [03:36] K3nto: what are you on debian ? [03:36] check this howto..... [03:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy [03:37] nah [03:37] probs started with xfce === dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-37-54.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:38] K3nto, your wireless up then? [03:39] no [03:39] im getting rid of xubuntu [03:39] and im using something i know how to [03:40] the howto i posted https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy works for ubuntu as well as xubuntu === Jester45 [i=Jester45@69-29-173-139.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === K3nto [n=k3nt@dhcp42-151.iqltvu.northwestel.net] has left #xubuntu [] === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu [03:53] ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu .... its all the same :) [03:53] diff DE is all === LastMall-alt [n=here@adsl-70-232-44-35.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:56] ubuntu and kubuntu have some core diffrences [03:57] Jester45: honestly ? so if I install kubuntu, and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. when I log into gnome, there are different programs running than the normal ubuntu-desktop ? [03:57] one thing is the kubuntu doesnt have all the libs that ubutnu has it has diffrent ones [03:58] and so forth, because, when I add xubuntu-desktop && kubuntu-desktop to an ubuntu install they seem to run the same [03:58] it uses some still but try a apt-get ubuntu-desktop and you will see core libs get installed not only the DE libs [03:58] Jester45: true, but if you have kubuntu, and install ubuntu-desktop, doesn't it snag all the libs a normal ubuntu-desktop install would have ? [03:59] see, I had kubuntu before, when easyubuntu was young, ended up getting ubuntu-desktop just for lib support before it would run :P [03:59] yes will will get all the libs ubuntu has but.. kubuntu has some allready [03:59] its not a diffrent distro but they are not just a DE change [04:00] anyone done the ubuntu-server install before ? [04:00] i change installs monthly [04:00] yes [04:00] does it install lamp by default ? === DiscoStu [i=ich@krikkit.ee.uwa.edu.au] has joined #xubuntu [04:00] hi [04:01] umm yes i think if you were to just keep pressing enter [04:01] hi [04:01] sponix: yes [04:01] anyone experienced in tightvncserver problem fixing? [04:01] I'm looking for something bare, that I can just apt-get install xfce4 vlc-plugin-alsa mplayer w32codecs && my kids presto, have media player box [04:01] Whatcha need? [04:01] mine won't start [04:01] font problems [04:01] maybe I should just snag debian for this === clarklinux [n=clark@ip72-195-129-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:02] hate to though, because all the other boxen in the house run some flavor of ubuntu [04:02] sponix: Server would work; also, the alternate CD should have a minimal option - the difference being mostly that the server install will give you the server-optimized kernel by default [04:02] sponix so you want mulimedia try easyubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.169.26] has joined #xubuntu [04:02] hi: i'm hung up in a xubuntu 6.10 installation on a newworld g3 powerbook (ppc), can anyone tell me what I should do? [04:02] *wave*cell === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.131.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:03] hello cellofellow i havent see you in long time [04:03] *wave* cellofellow [04:03] *wave* [04:03] tonyyarusso: but does server give apache/mysql/php default, with no option to turn them off .. if so I want alt install if it has a bare bones option [04:03] how are you Jester? [04:03] cellofellow doing fine i got a few more pcs [04:03] cool [04:03] sponix, there is a command-line only option on the alt cd [04:03] sponix: Nope - LAMP is an option itself actually [04:04] Jester45, you got more pc's? [04:04] tying to catch up to me> [04:04] does anyone have any recommendations for a hung up installation? [04:05] cellofellow they are older but run :) im gonna put nice video cards on them and a custom case and have the media center thing for linux on them [04:05] clarklinux, you trying to install from the live cd? [04:05] MythTV? [04:05] each tv in my house all connected to fileserv [04:05] yea that one [04:05] vidd: nope, alt install...i was talking to you last night...I finally got the cd to work, now it's hung up haha [04:05] vidd_laptop tonyyarusso : ok, I'll try alt install first, then might look at server install just for the hell of it ... wanted to see what the others are like anyway [04:05] vidd_laptop tonyyarusso : thanks guys [04:05] np [04:06] np [04:06] clarklinux, where is it hanging? [04:06] cellofellow i got 3 gigabit pcs now :) my house is a nice little network [04:06] :) [04:06] No new additions here. [04:07] vidd: on the "select and install step", it is at 6% and "configuring xserver-xorg" [04:07] Jester45, i have 8 PCs and only 2 still run windows [04:07] i might make one of the pcs a ummm firewall (linux distro not sure name) [04:07] vidd: i had this problem a little earlier so i rechecked the md5 sum and reburned it [04:07] i got 12 [04:07] clarklinux, it always takes me a wile at that point....you sure its hung? [04:07] vidd: well, I left the house about 3 hours ago [04:08] cellofellow i been off irc working one them :) i uninstalled gaim so i wouldnt get borthed by irc [04:08] vidd: i could try leaving it over night [04:08] clarklinux, hit [ctrl] [alt] [f4] ....see what its doing === SportChick [n=essy@freenode/staff/about.essy.sportchick] has joined #xubuntu [04:09] 3 are broken with parts for 2 running ones i think the 3rd needs new ram [04:09] vidd: k, gimme a sec [04:10] Jester45, im not COUNTING the parts boxes...only running, fully functional machines.... [04:10] Offtopic: anyone know why my internet speed is higher than what i pay for? [04:10] Jester45, as soon as i can find a keyboard, mouse and monitor for this older MAC, ill have 9 [04:10] i got 9 running 11 capible just havnen got to changing parts [04:11] vidd: the last thing it says is "Obsolete command TITLE Configuring xserver-xorg called" [04:11] make it headless [04:11] and then [04:11] clarklinux, this box have internet access? [04:11] vidd: xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X;file has been customized [04:12] vidd: it can but currently it is not hooked up to the internet [04:13] connect it to the internet, do a command line install..... [04:13] how do I do that [04:13] plug the nic card to your router.... [04:14] restart the alt cd,,,, [04:14] no i mean a command line install [04:14] choose "command ine" [04:14] oh [04:14] hah [04:14] okay [04:14] i did not know i had to be online to install? [04:14] it might say minimum, or something similar [04:15] you dont HAVE to be..... [04:15] it helps, though? [04:15] but this way we see if there is any issue with your command line system using DHCP.... [04:15] which you will need for phase 2 [04:16] I need to sign off this computer to connect the other to the internet [04:16] what should I do after i restart the install connected to the internet [04:16] once the command line system is up.... [04:16] you want to edit the repo's.... [04:17] sorry, don't know what that is / how to do it [04:17] sudo nano /etc/apt/sourses.list [04:17] okay [04:17] bear with me....im giving a step by step and i type slow [04:17] =] [04:17] sure === kalikiana|away [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-176-77.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [04:18] you only need to remove the cd from the sourses list....make the SECOND line that references the cd the same as the first..... [04:18] by adding "# " [04:19] not sure if the space is needed but i always add it [04:20] then [ctrl] [x] ... [y] [enter] ... [enter] [04:20] then sudo apt-get install [distro of choose] -desktop [04:21] cellofellow i would make that mac a headless just take the things you need to isntall then run a server of somthing on it [04:21] sit back, relax, go to dinner.....you get the idea [04:21] distro of choice... [04:21] what format is that [04:21] xubuntu6.10? [04:21] just xubuntu [04:21] oh [04:21] okay [04:21] thanks a lot! [04:21] i'll let you know how it turns out [04:21] xubuntu-desktop [04:22] sorry vidd_laptop i beat you to it [04:22]