[12:19] <Burgwork> jgedeon: where in the US are you?
[12:33] <Burgwork> Laser_away: you still around?
[12:33] <jgedeon> Sorry about that.
[12:33] <jgedeon> In North East Ohio
[12:41] <Burgwork> jgedeon: no need to be sorry, did you hear my question?
[12:41] <jgedeon> Burgwork: yes I said in North East Ohio.
[12:42] <Burgwork> ah, didn't catch that
[12:42] <Burgwork> I apparently dropped for a bit
[12:42] <Burgwork> there are a bunch of ltsp devs in the midwest region
[12:43] <jgedeon> A couple of years ago I was helping a teacher in the school and one thing led to another and now we are looking at *nix district wide...
[12:44] <jgedeon> It's already been officially said that they want to try Edubuntu in the primary and Intermediate buildings.
[12:46] <Burgwork> cool
[12:47] <Burgwork> there is also somebody using Edubuntu in Illionios
[12:47] <Burgwork> as part of their state-wide rollout
[12:48] <jgedeon> Cool.  Then we won't be the only ones.  Makes one feel better.  LOL  Even though I don't think Edubuntu will have a problem it's just nice to know there are others.
[12:48] <jgedeon> In the area so to say.
[12:48] <cliebow_>  we are as close as your netrwork connection 8`)
[12:48] <jgedeon> LOL
[12:50] <jgedeon> I do know that the media will be watching this.  So it should be pretty interesting for Ubuntu as a whole!    The County Superintendent is keeping a close eye on this to and has an interest in it.
[12:50] <cliebow_> jgedeon: we switched cave hill to ltsp three years ago..but in libranet..then redhat..soon to e edubuntu
[12:50] <Burgwork> ah, libranet
[12:50] <Burgwork> cliebow_: which cave hill?
[12:51] <Burgwork> jgedeon: ironically I work for a company that sells a competing solution
[12:51] <cliebow_> at the time we  had a tech guy there..teaching first grade..but budget consolidation made him go
[12:51] <cliebow_> mAINE
[12:51] <cliebow_> when he left i puit all six schools in rhel3..
[12:51] <jgedeon> cliebow_: I think I have read something about your school on the internet while researching.
[12:52] <cliebow_> probably...i  admin six in Ellsworth and sis in surrounding union 92
[12:53] <jgedeon> cliebow_: how many clients are you running per server?
[12:53] <cliebow_> cliebow prob brings up all sorts of fabrications
[12:53] <cliebow_> i have a hundred in the high school..never more than 40 aT a time on
[12:54] <cliebow_> i ve been doing ltsp five years or so
[12:54] <jgedeon> cliebow_: what kind of server spec's are you running if you don't mind me asking?
[12:55] <cliebow_> eagle2 is 4 gig memory..have to look at the rest for you..dual opteron perhaps..
[12:55] <jgedeon> And 40 is at once is about the limit?
[12:56] <cliebow_> no..with no runaway forefoxes or online games we could do more
[12:56] <jgedeon> Ok..  KEWL
[12:56] <cliebow_> we have a trio..ldapserver//ltsp...fileserver
[12:57] <jgedeon> cliebow_: do you know what software your districts are using for reading comprehension?
[12:57] <cliebow_> well we are using read180...lexia//carnegie learning
[12:58] <cliebow_> yeah..dual opteron 1792 mhz 64 bit..
[12:58] <jgedeon> trying to find the name of the one they are currently using on doze network.
[12:59] <jgedeon> 3yo servers?
[12:59] <LaserJock> Burgwork: I am now
[12:59] <cliebow_> two hefty servers...one is files gfor all six schools..the other ltsp for high school..
[01:00] <cliebow_> and a pos fgor ldap
[01:00] <cliebow_> authentication
[01:00] <jgedeon> cliebow_: ok.
[01:01] <cliebow_> it comes and goes..still have a fifth grade pod of seven run by a totally non-savvy teacher..who loves it
[01:02] <cliebow_> i look in at every ubuntu release..other than that it just works
[01:02] <jgedeon> cliebow_: that is what I am seeing.
[01:03] <cliebow_> GReat..any help i can be just holler..i am in #ltsp most of the time
[01:05] <jgedeon> cliebow_: Thanks.  I have set up a couple of smaller labs just for testing but am looking at doing something a little bigger so that I can show the others more of a hands on and to do some training on so that they aren't blind sideded.
[01:06] <cliebow_> good...i have mine set up to feed the whole building..single nic..but some prefer the lab type setup
[01:06] <cliebow_> you are doing ltsp?
[01:08] <jgedeon> Yes ltsp, don't see a reason not to go ltsp.  Hoping to break the grades into like pods.  Think there will be 5 to 7 clients in a room.
[01:08] <jgedeon> cliebow_: is your network a mixxed network with *nix and M$?
[01:10] <cliebow_> oh yeah....osx nix ms..like 200 laptops just in the high school
[01:10] <cliebow_> 200 osx laptops..
[01:11] <cliebow_> maine laptop initiative...
[01:11] <jgedeon> Ok.
[01:11] <cliebow_> prob 400 ibooks in lall
[01:11] <cliebow_> for this district
[01:12] <jgedeon> Ok.
[01:14] <cliebow_> that is why i was so hot getting ltsp to wwork on ppc
[01:14] <cliebow_> i find the litlle bast..ds a pain..\
[01:17] <jgedeon> cliebow_: with the changes in ppc I don't think we will really be worrying about those since everything we have is so outdated and we are basically going to be starting out from scratch.
[01:23] <cliebow_> i started out with nubus mac...
[01:24] <cliebow_> my  terminals  are all junk donated..netvistas..boxes from the banks..the airforce..
[01:26] <cliebow_> 200 meg  boxes retired from the career  essentials labs
[01:37] <cliebow_> packing it in..til tomorrow
[01:37] <MrWizard14> ok, c ya
[01:50] <adrenalin1983> Anyone got some spare time to help me with something?
[01:51] <adrenalin1983> I need help with my video card
[02:35] <a_ty> can help me to enable 3D vga client
[03:47] <yo_> please help me
[03:48] <yo_>  to enable client 3D VGA card
[03:50] <Burgundavia> yo_: what is the make of your video card
[03:50] <Burgundavia> ?
[04:07] <a_ty> yo
[04:08] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: you pinged me earlier today, anything special?
[04:08] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: I forgot
[04:08] <LaserJock> k
[04:09] <a_ty> what
[04:10] <a_ty> what's the mean of laserjock. may i know
[04:12] <LaserJock> what does "LaserJock" mean?
[04:20] <a_ty> yeah
[04:32] <LaserJock> well, LASER is Light Amplified by Spontaneous Emission of Radiation
[04:32] <LaserJock> and Jock is kinda like an enthusiast
[05:07] <|speed|> can help me to configuration 3D vga card client
[05:09] <bimberi> |speed|: what kind of video card? nvidia? ati?
[07:34] <cbx33> hi alll
[07:36] <cbx33> hey burgundavia, howz it looking
[07:36] <RichEd> 'lo cbx33
[07:37] <cbx33> hey riched
[07:38] <RichEd> cbx33: pm4u
[07:38] <cbx33> i'm nagging as usual
[07:38] <RichEd> s/lagging/nagging ?
[07:38] <cbx33> nope nagging
[07:39] <Alpha_Cluster> wow people do actaully talk in here
[07:39] <cbx33> heh
[07:39] <cbx33> right i gotta go get up
[07:42] <cbx33>  /me bugs burgundavia one last time book book book.....
[07:42] <cbx33> i'm outta here
[09:10] <phoenix24> i am working on my idea, which i think could be a useful app for Edubuntu
[09:10] <phoenix24> is this the right place to get feedback on it?
[09:18] <highvoltage> phoenix24: yep
[09:18] <highvoltage> phoenix24: welcome to edubuntu
[09:18] <highvoltage> phoenix24: most people are still sleeping though :)
[09:21] <phoenix24> i guess so..
[09:22] <phoenix24> My Application is called WISIWYS; pronounced "wizz e wizz"
[09:25] <phoenix24> and i call it What-I-See-Is What-You-See
[09:25] <phoenix24> catered more towards, situtations like; a classroom; a workshop; or a seminar. Where the lead presenter wants all the attendees to focus on his screen, or rather their own which is a replica of his own( if everyone has one)
[09:26] <highvoltage> what technologies does it use?
[09:26] <phoenix24> X11 backend, GTK+
[09:26] <highvoltage> would it work with clients that are connected via ssh -X ?
[09:27] <phoenix24> would primarily be messing around with the X11 protocols
[09:27] <highvoltage> I suggest you mail about it to edubuntu-devel at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <phoenix24> i am yet to refine the idea, was thinking if it even had a potential ?
[09:27] <highvoltage> if it could be incorporated into the current edubuntu tools, that would be great
[09:28] <highvoltage> it has potential, yes, ogra and cbx33 are working on tools to do similar things
[09:28] <highvoltage> maybe you could contribute your ideas and knowledge?
[09:28] <highvoltage> if you hang around, they'll be in the channel a bit later.
[09:29] <phoenix24> a friend told me  to comtact orga. but he's not seen here now.
[09:29] <phoenix24> *contact
[09:30] <phoenix24> highvoltage: could give me the liks to orga's / cbx33's work on this?
[09:34] <highvoltage> ugh, I was just about to paste him the links
[09:36] <highvoltage> phoenix24: it was originally called the student control panel
[09:36] <highvoltage> phoenix24: here's the specification: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/student-control-panel-completion
[09:36] <highvoltage> phoenix24: I think it's now called LTSP manager
[09:37] <highvoltage> phoenix24: but I suggest you hang arround for cbx33 and ogra for more details
[09:37] <phoenix24> yeah i will.
[01:15] <mherweg> hi edubuntu-people!  I tried to build CipUX on ubuntu and get this error: dh_installinit -pcipux-rpc -o --name=cipux-rpcd
[01:15] <mherweg> > Unknown option: o
[01:15] <mherweg> > dh_installinit: unknown option; aborting
[01:32] <phoenix24> hi ogra
[02:39] <wima> does anyone know where I can find a description of the local devices mechanism used in ubuntu ltsp?
[02:40] <wima> I'm having troubles with cdroms, and I don't really know where to begin debugging
[02:40] <wima> I fount this: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-ltsp-devel/2006-August/000339.html
[02:41] <wima> but it doesn't say anything about cdrom
[02:41] <wima> (other local devices work fine)
[02:56] <cliebow> wima:wiki.ltsp.org
[02:57] <wima> thqnks cliebow
[02:58] <wima> but that is about ltsp 4.2
[02:58] <wima> I belief there are quite some changes in ubuntu ltsp
[02:59] <wima> ( in ltsp 4.2 cdroms work, btw)
[03:01] <cliebow> ah..then ogra may be your best resource..i know he is wicked busy with beta freeze
[03:02] <wima> yeah, he was also the author of the mail i referenced
[03:02] <cliebow> i believe localdev system is the same..but dont quote me..
[03:02] <cliebow> pop in #ltsp..Gadi is there i know..
[03:02] <wima> I believe there are some changes in how things are mounted server side
[03:02] <cliebow> heh..was there
[03:03] <wima> on the client, things seem to work
[03:03] <wima> cd is mounted
[03:03] <cliebow> did you do the 12 step diagnosis?
[03:03] <wima> no. where can I find this?
[03:04] <wima> are those the ones at ltsp.org?
[03:04] <wima> are those applicable for ubuntu ltsp?
[03:05] <cliebow> well i thought so..still need ltspfsd and stuff
[03:06] <cliebow> what are permissions on /dev/fuse
[03:06] <wima> rw-rw----
[03:06] <wima> everyone is in the fuse group
[03:07] <wima> usb sticks work fine
[03:07] <wima> local hard drives as wel
[03:08] <wima> skimming trough the 12 steps, I see at least one step that goes wrong:
[03:08] <cliebow> hmmm
[03:08] <wima> "Does your workstation know its name?"
[03:08] <cliebow> that should bother all else though huh?
[03:08] <wima> I believe there is something wrong with the hostname script
[03:09] <ogra> its not needed in ltsp5 ....
[03:10] <wima> no, I thought so
[03:10] <wima> my dhcp server hqnds out hostnames based on mac
[03:10] <ogra> ltsp5 uses a socked of the ssh tunnel to communicate, you dont need any TCP stuff set up correctly for it ... (less error prone)
[03:10] <wima> I see the hostname scrolling by during boot
[03:11] <wima> but then it gets overwritten by the hostname of the server
[03:11] <ogra> in ltsp 4.2 a separate communication bus makes the TCP connection, so it depends on correct TCP setup there
[03:11] <cliebow> echo $DISPLAY on a client gives server name?
[03:11] <cliebow> seesm irrelevant anyway
[03:11] <ogra> cliebow, should give you :6 on a client
[03:12] <ogra> and at least localhst:11 in the session
[03:12] <wima> can you think of anything that can cause cdroms to fail while other devices work?
[03:12] <ogra> set a roowpw in the client chroot: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd
[03:13] <ogra> hit ctrl-alt-f1 on the client and log in as root ...
[03:13] <ogra> check if the cdpinger script is running
[03:13] <wima> I have an account with sudo rights
[03:13] <ogra> no
[03:13] <ogra> the chroot the client boots from is a completely independent system
[03:13] <ogra> it has no user accounts at all and root is locked
[03:14] <wima> yes, I know
[03:14] <ogra> so you need a rootpw to log in on the console on a booted client
[03:14] <wima> but I created one in the chroot
[03:14] <ogra> ah
[03:14] <ogra> ok
[03:14] <wima> cdpinger is running
[03:14] <ogra> hmm, then there is no reason you shouldnt see the CD
[03:14] <wima> this is a python script right?
[03:14] <ogra> yep
[03:15] <wima> it is mounted locally
[03:15] <wima> but it doesn't appear on the server
[03:15] <ogra> hmm, so cdpinger even works right
[03:15] <ogra> thats a bit weird
[03:16] <wima> sorry, it _used_ to work
[03:16] <wima> now not anymore
[03:16] <wima> and it won't give me back my cd
[03:17] <wima> for other devices, I saw two mounts on the server
[03:17] <wima> like:
[03:17] <wima> ltspfs on /tmp/.wima-ltspfs/floppy0 type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=wima)/tmp/.wima-ltspfs/floppy0 on /media/wima/floppy0 type none (rw,bind)
[03:17] <wima> sorry
[03:17] <wima> ltspfs on /tmp/.wima-ltspfs/floppy0 type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=wima)
[03:17] <wima> /tmp/.wima-ltspfs/floppy0 on /media/wima/floppy0 type none (rw,bind)
[03:18] <wima> for cdroms, there was only one
[03:20] <ogra> hmm
[03:20] <ogra> check if /media/wima has a cdrom dir
[03:21] <wima> no
[03:21] <wima> maybe it did before I messed things up completely
[03:23] <wima> unfortunately I cannot reboot the server without having a lot of angry users
[03:24] <wima> (for the moment they are happy ltsp users, thank you very much :))
[03:25] <wima> is this what is supposed to happen?:
[03:25] <wima> 1. cdpinger sees that there is a cd and mounts the cdrom
[03:25] <wima> 2 server is notified
[03:26] <wima> 3. server mounts ltsp filesystem
[03:26] <ogra> right
[03:26] <wima> 4 ???
[03:26] <wima> this is then mounted again?
[03:26] <ogra> the only thing i could have imagined was that the dir wasnt deleted on unmount, it sometimes chokes on that
[03:27] <ogra> but if you say /media/wima is empty that cant be it
[03:27] <wima> well, floppy is there
[03:27] <wima> but no cdrom
[03:28] <wima> what is running on the server to manage these things?
[03:28] <wima> and can I get it to log something?
[03:29] <ogra> there is the ltspfsmounter script that gets executed through the tunnel
[03:29] <ogra> its respnsible for the payload connection
[03:30] <ogra> but if your floppy woirks all should be fine
[03:30] <wima> why are there two mounts for every device?
[03:31] <ogra> one is the ltspfs mount, the other is a bind mount, so the device ends up in /media/$USER
[03:31] <wima> ok
[03:31] <ogra> gnome-volumke manager monitors that dir
[03:32] <ogra> so we didnt need to touch the desktop with any hacks ;)
[03:32] <wima> strange then that the bind mount happened, but the ltspfs mount didn't
[03:32] <wima> the bind mount made the icon appear
[03:33] <ogra> right
[03:33] <ogra> and you bsee an empty dir if you open it
[03:33] <wima> can I run ltspfsmount manually?
[03:33] <wima> as a test?
[03:35] <ogra> hmm, might work
[03:38] <ogra> oh, wait !
[03:39] <ogra> check if a cdrom dir still is in /tmp/.$USER
[03:39] <ogra> ltspfsmounter wont work if either side exists ...
[03:39] <ogra> (either side of the bind mount)
[03:39] <wima> no
[03:39] <wima> well
[03:39] <wima> not anymore
[03:40] <wima> it was created when I tried ltfsmounter
[03:40] <wima> and then I used the remove option and it was gone
[03:40] <wima> (i have no idea what I am doing :))
[03:41] <ogra> try putting in a cdrom now
[03:41] <wima> problem is:
[03:41] <ogra> btw, is that edgy or feisty ?
[03:41] <wima> there is already a cdrom in, and it wont come out
[03:42] <ogra> oh
[03:43] <wima> umount -f on client says device is busy
[03:43] <ogra> oh
[03:43] <ogra> eject
[03:43] <ogra> well, indeed, you said you see the mount on the client ...
[03:44] <ogra> ususally there are no mounts as long as no data is transferred, ltspfs works dynamically
[03:44] <ogra> and unmounts the clientside secretly 2secs after the last byte was transferred
[03:45] <wima> eject: device is busy
[03:46] <ogra> well, thats very likely an HW issue, what kind of CD is that ?
[03:46] <ogra> plain data ? mixed audio/data ? or something differently weird ?
[03:46] <ogra> audio CDs are not yxet supported ...
[03:46] <wima> plain data
[03:46] <ogra> i havent tried mixed ones
[03:47] <wima> tried multiple workstations
[03:47] <wima> I could do an ls on client and see the data
[03:47] <ogra> right
[03:48] <ogra> which release is that ?
[03:50] <wima> edgy
[03:50] <ogra> k
[03:51] <ogra> run lsof on the client to see what hogs the CD
[03:51] <ogra> or better: lsof|grep cd
[03:51] <wima> already tried it
[03:51] <wima> nothing
[03:52] <wima> maybe best to reboot client
[03:52] <wima> is there anything I can do server side so everything is clean?
[03:53] <wima> remove tmp/user-ltsp?
[03:53] <wima> and /media/user/*
[03:54] <ogra> if you shut down from the clients login manager (with the button on te bottom left) a cleanup script is run
[03:54] <ogra> that will delete all dirs
[03:54] <wima> ok
[03:54] <wima> ah, the button doen't work on this machine
[03:54] <wima> it works on all others
[03:55] <wima> it just freezes
[03:55] <wima> I will check if everything is remeved when I log back in
[03:55] <ogra> weird machine ... but even if it freezes it will run the script before the acpi call is done
[03:55] <wima> ok
[03:55] <wima> well, I'm going to reboot now
[03:56] <wima> thanks already for your time!
[04:02] <wima> and we are back...
[04:03] <ogra> with working CDrom ?
[04:04] <wima> haven't tried
[04:04] <wima> was checking if all dirs where gone
[04:04] <ogra> and they were i hope
[04:04] <wima> on client, there is still a cdrom dir in /var/run/drives
[04:04] <wima> is this ok?
[04:04] <ogra> yes
[04:05] <wima> ok
[04:05] <ogra> thats created on boot
[04:05] <ogra> (as the whole /var/run dir)
[04:05] <wima> inserting disc...
[04:05] <wima> icon appears
[04:05] <ogra> if you ever need something to vanish on reboot in asn ubuntu system, use /var/run ;)
[04:06] <wima> hmm
[04:06] <wima> I see an empty folder
[04:06] <wima> on server, both mounts are there
[04:06] <wima> ltspfs and bind
[04:07] <wima> ls /tmp/.wima-ltspfs/cdrom gives nothing
[04:07] <ogra> no, it shouldnt
[04:07] <ogra> but you see the mount in the output of the mount program ?
[04:08] <wima> ah, it is not mounted on client
[04:08] <wima> mount |grep cd gives nothing
[04:09] <wima> on server,  mount |grep cdrom |grep wima gives
[04:09] <wima> ltspfs on /tmp/.wima-ltspfs/cdrom type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=wima)
[04:09] <wima> /tmp/.wima-ltspfs/cdrom on /media/wima/cdrom type none (rw,bin
[04:10] <wima> I forgot to check if these weren't there before I inserted this disk of course
[04:11] <ogra> it should get mounted as soon as you acess it
[04:12] <wima> removed cd now
[04:12] <wima> icon is gone
[04:12] <wima> mounts are also gone on server
[04:12] <wima> i'll try another cd
[04:14] <wima> ah, now nautilus gives an error
[04:14] <wima> 'could not display contents'
[04:14] <wima> it is mounted on client now
[04:14] <ogra> hmm
[04:15] <ogra> right, thats what should happen
[04:15] <ogra> but i wonder why you dont have read access
[04:15] <wima> ls /var/drives/cdrom on client works
[04:16] <ogra> are you logged in multiple times with the same user ?
[04:16] <wima> ls /media/wima/cdrom
[04:16] <wima> gives:
[04:16] <wima>  /media/wima/cdrom: Transport endpoint is not connected
[04:17] <wima> no only on this machine
[04:17] <wima> I think
[04:21] <ogra> sounds like a bug in ltspfs or so ...
[04:21] <ogra> we'll need to wait until sbalneav shows up...
[04:21] <wima> can there be anything specific to my setup that cases this problem?
[04:22] <wima> network maybe?
[04:22] <ogra> not really, you client boots from the net and works ... that would exclude network probs
[04:22] <ogra> the scriptsa work fine as well and create all the mountpoints
[04:23] <ogra> so the only thing that could be broken is ltspfs
[04:23] <ogra> which is responsible for the payload ...
[04:24] <wima> we had a lot of problems with nfs
[04:25] <wima> it was so bad that ubuntu ltsp zas unusable
[04:25] <wima> then I changed nfsp to use tcp in the init scripts
[04:25] <wima> now it is fine, and we could finally switch to ltsp ubuntu
[04:27] <wima> ok. I'll wait for sbalneav :)
[04:28] <wima> thanks very much for your help
[04:28] <wima> now I understand a bit better what is going on
[04:29] <wima> once cdrom is fixed, we're moving the whole office over to ltsp
[04:29] <wima> ( we have a few test users at the moment)
[04:29] <ogra> nice
[04:30] <wima> is pulse audio going in in the next release?
[04:30] <ogra> its already in, yes
[04:30] <wima> great!
[07:26] <sbalneav> cbx33: Hey dude!  How's stands the empire?
[07:26] <sbalneav> s/'s//
[07:36] <LaserJock> sbalneav!
[07:38] <sbalneav> hey LaserJock
[07:38] <Burgwork> sbalneav: hey!
[07:40] <sbalneav> hey hey
[07:40] <sbalneav> is cbx33 around?
[07:41] <LaserJock> not sure
[07:41] <sbalneav> Who's controlling the doco these days?  ogra said there was some weirdness in the doco, but when it moved off of hedgemage's repo, I never got access to it after that.
[07:42] <LaserJock> sbalneav: the doc team has it
[07:43] <LaserJock> http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/
[07:44] <LaserJock> sbalneav: we just need to make sure all your work got there
[07:44] <LaserJock> nixternal: thought it was but now we aren't sure
[07:45] <LaserJock> s/://
[07:46] <sbalneav> Some of it wasn't finished yet, but I lost access to the server and COULDN't finish it.
[07:47] <LaserJock> lost access to HedgeMage's server?
[07:48] <sbalneav> Well, they moved the doco off of that, right?
[07:48] <LaserJock> well, we *were* periodically syncing from it
[07:48] <LaserJock> but we've moved totally to the doc team server
[07:49] <sbalneav> Any chance I could get access to it?
[07:49] <LaserJock> sure
[07:49] <LaserJock> but you can always send us patches too ;-)
[07:49] <sbalneav> That's fine, what's the address?
[07:49] <LaserJock> it'll take time to get write access
[07:49] <sbalneav> bzr or svn?
[07:50] <LaserJock> svn
[07:50] <sbalneav> What's the addrss?
[07:50] <LaserJock> Canonical sysadmins have to create the accounts
[07:50] <LaserJock> well, you can send it to me
[07:50] <LaserJock> or ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <sbalneav> No, I mean the svn address.
[07:51] <LaserJock> oh sorry
[07:51] <sbalneav> I can do a checkout, fix up what needs fixing, then send you the patches.
[07:51] <LaserJock> svn checkout https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk ubuntu-doc
[07:52] <sbalneav> k got it
[07:52] <LaserJock> the handbook is in edubuntu/handbook/
[07:53] <sbalneav> Grabbing it now.
[07:53] <cbx33> hey sbalneav
[07:53] <cbx33> I'm here
[07:53] <cbx33> gonna be jumping out in just a sec though
[07:55] <cbx33> hey LaserJock
[07:57] <LaserJock> well, I got 6hrs of sleep last night ;-)
[07:57] <sbalneav> urgh, yeah, hasn't got all the up-to-date stuff.  I'll work on it for the rest of the day.
[07:57] <LaserJock> sbalneav: thanks so much dude. I'm not sure what happened there
[07:58] <LaserJock> I've just been doing packaging, etc. for it not any content
[07:59] <cbx33> 6 hours
[07:59] <cbx33> that's tonnes
[07:59] <cbx33> try 4
[08:00] <cbx33> i did that for a whole month once
[08:00] <LaserJock> yucky
[08:00] <LaserJock> I feel like crap
[08:00] <LaserJock> it's only noon and I'm wasted
[08:00] <Burgwork> hmm, drugs
[08:01] <Burgwork> makes irc a much better place
[08:01] <LaserJock> no drugs for me :/
[08:01] <LaserJock> I shouldn't even be drinking soda, according to the dentist
[08:01] <cbx33> Burgwork, chapter?
[08:01] <LaserJock> I hate coffee
[08:01] <cbx33> awww sorry LaserJock
[08:01] <LaserJock> so I'm stuck with my daily *buntu-drip
[08:01] <Burgwork> cbx33: I played Wesnoth last night
[08:02] <cbx33> BURGWORK!!!!
[08:02] <Burgwork> I am turning into a coffee fiend
[08:02] <LaserJock> I really should
[08:02] <LaserJock> cbx33: where'd you get the trout?
[08:02] <Burgwork> I only drink coffee with chocolate
[08:02] <Burgwork> LaserJock: it came out of the Thames and has legs
[08:02] <LaserJock> yeah
[08:03] <Burgwork> warty was ugly: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=664&num=2
[08:03] <Burgwork> what verb is "gaught"
[08:03] <Burgwork> is that how you over the ponders are spelling got these days?
[08:04] <cbx33> hehe
[08:04] <cbx33> caught
[08:04] <cbx33> I gtg
[08:04] <cbx33> see y'all later
[08:04] <cbx33> CHAPTER Burgwork  :p
[08:05] <cbx33> please...even if it's just makos version ;)
[08:05] <Burgwork> cbx33: wesnotttthhh
[08:05] <LaserJock> Burgwork: I played it once a little while back on OS X
[08:05] <LaserJock> pretty cool
[08:05] <Burgwork> I am gotten rehooked
[08:05] <LaserJock> I'm not much of a RPG guy
[08:05] <LaserJock> I like the first person shooters more I guess
[09:23] <lulemurfan> I can't connect my network printer to edubuntu, CAN anyone Help
[09:25] <lulemurfan> Can anyone help me please
[09:28] <lulemurfan> please
[09:28] <lulemurfan> I can't connect my network printer to edubuntu, CAN anyone Help
[09:29] <lulemurfan> I can't connect my network printer to edubuntu, CAN anyone Help
[09:35] <sbalneav> lulemurfan: hello
[09:35] <sbalneav> What kind of network printer is it/
[09:35] <sbalneav> ?
[09:40] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: in response to what I saw in my away log... we took my repo offline when everything was moved to the doc repo in order to try to avoid confusion.  I can put mine back up if needed, though.
[09:40] <sbalneav> Nah, that's ok.  I've checked out the source, I'll finish it off, and send in a patch.
[09:41] <HedgeMage> ahh cool
[09:41] <sbalneav> Haven't seen you in a long time! How's it going?
[09:41] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: okay, just insanely busy
[09:42] <sbalneav> :)
[09:43] <HedgeMage> Hopefully, I'll find time to come back in a few more (9+?) months.
[10:30] <LaserJock> HedgeMage: how's the family?
[10:32] <HedgeMage> LaserJock: okay I guess... just a lot going on :)
[10:32] <HedgeMage> LaserJock: how've you been?
[10:35] <LaserJock> busy busy
[10:36] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:38] <LaserJock> just got my car back from the shop
[10:38] <LaserJock> took over 1 week
[10:41] <cliebow__>  spark plugs?
[10:46] <LaserJock> cliebow__: accident repair
[10:46] <LaserJock> 2 accidents to be precise
[12:00] <cliebow__>  should have been two weeks then\