[12:20] which character did we end up with for passwords? [12:20] bug 75496 [12:21] Malone bug 75496 in kdelibs "Dots in password entry field too big" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75496 === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-021-021.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-038-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-047-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@dyn-129-64-208-56.wireless-bg.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-020-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-154-17-241.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:28] alleeEdgy32: mailman unsubscribed you from kubuntu-devel for bouncing === manchicken [n=mstemle@network-65-167-67-16.doubleclick.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:40] moins === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:41] hola === freeflying_ [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:51] Riddell, you gonna make the MC meeting to plead the KDE4 case ( i will be there ) [01:51] moin imbrandon! :D [01:51] heya Jucato === jack_wyt [n=jack@58.61.198.26] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ is now known as freeflying [02:04] yikes! ubuntu.com has a new face [02:16] imbrandon: hmm, when is that? [02:16] imbrandon: ug, early [02:16] imbrandon: yes, probably, but I should go to bed now === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm4.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:17] Riddell, ok, i'll be there too, i've been chiming in on irc alot [02:17] aobut it === Riddell does so [02:17] sleep well [02:17] g'night Riddell! :) [02:19] night Riddell === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:24] claydoh: ping === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:26] Jucato: pong! [02:27] spam in KFN. search for "nokia n95" :) [02:27] dang just got home fromone job, already on the next :0 [02:28] heheh sorry :) === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] s'ok, all taken care of, about 10 reports from users im mmy inbox :) [02:32] usually someone else beats me to them [02:32] heh :) === Jucato hasn't gotten a PM in KFN for months :D [02:33] I only get pms from bad post reports, and the occaisional support questionm [02:33] hehe :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:03] KFN? [03:03] KubuntuForums.Net [03:05] Kentucky Fried Nuggets [03:06] gr.. you just made me hungrier... [03:06] and since it's a friday, I can't eat meat :( [03:06] kernel farking nutjobs [03:06] thursday here :) [03:07] Jucato: don't worry, lent will be over soon :) [03:07] :D [03:08] yeah... but part of me doesn't want holy week to come soon... coz it means tons of work for me :( [03:08] heh === ajmitch also === ajmitch is in the cathedral choir, so it's our busiest week of the year === Jucato is an altar server, a choir member, and a council chairman... :( [03:10] you will be busy.. [03:10] and unofficially an errand boy.... [03:10] hehe [03:10] sucks to be the youngest male in the council === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:17] Jucato: You can't eat meat on Fridays? [03:17] fish is allowed [03:17] Daskreech: nope. jjesse: yep :D [03:18] Lent? [03:18] yep [03:18] yep [03:19] ah ok === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.149.6.181] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin_ [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A71F3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:59] Jucato: that guy who just logged out [04:59] is that allowed? [05:14] Daskreech: which guy? the fuk! guy? [05:14] Yeah [05:14] no, but he didn't stay long enough for a warning :) [05:14] Ok just wanted to know [05:16] heh, beta got nabbed by the flood script [05:17] I forgot to unload that earlier, glad I was around === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire__ [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:57] Daskreech: sorry I was busy eating fish [05:57] Ha ha :) [06:00] are you limited in the type of fish you can eat> [06:00] ? [06:00] no [06:01] actually I don't have to eat fish. just anything != meat [06:03] Why can't you eat meat? [06:03] Don't say lent :-P whats the reasoning behind it [06:03] Lent [06:03] lol [06:03] :D [06:04] actually, if I were a vegetarian, I would be eating meat today... if going by the reasoning behind it === Alpha_Cluster [n=chatzill@12-208-202-183.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:19] Which is? [06:19] Give up something you normally subsist on? [06:20] give up something you normally like/do/eat/crave [06:20] for one day a week [06:22] So for me it would be lack of sleep? [06:23] hey, I received a job offer for 17,000 pesos a month. is that good? === nixternal finds a currency converter [06:23] Xe.com [06:23] around $340? [06:24] reminds me of Futurama :) [06:24] that's it? [06:24] lol [06:24] that is a management position in Mexico? [06:24] might be even lower these days... [06:24] they have to pay more than that [06:24] er.. which Pesos btw? [06:24] lol === Jucato thinks Mexico uses pesos too... === Jucato is not from Mexico... [06:25] Jucato: that is 1,500+ a month [06:25] LOL, that is definitely not enough [06:25] mexico does use the peso === Alpha_Cluster [n=chatzill@12-208-202-183.client.mchsi.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["User] [06:25] nixternal: I converted that to Philippine peso, which isn't the same as Mexican peso === Alpha_Cluster [n=chatzill@12-208-202-183.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:28] ya, you scared me a little there [06:30] :P [06:31] well if 1500 is not enough anyway.... [06:31] lol === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:31] heh, considering for me to purchase a house, I am looking at about $350,000 [06:32] yeah but did they say anything about living arangements?> [06:35] they will move me and set me up with a condo [06:35] this sucks, I have a year left before I finish my business degree, and I want to go right now [06:36] so I am guessing, in about 16 months, I will be oceanside hacking in Mexico! [06:36] who is coming to visit? [06:36] lol [06:36] so now you l9ike that idea? [06:36] hhehe :) [06:37] http://www.cabovillas.com/real_estate_property.asp?PID=489 [06:37] that has my name written all over it, if only it was about 1mi further west :) [06:38] lol [06:38] to live in Cabo San Lucas Mexico right now, I would take a hotel job [06:38] http://www.cabovillas.com/real_estate_property.asp?PID=486 [06:38] read the first sentence... imbrandon ^^ I would be drunk daily [06:40] I am going to bed, this has gotten me way to excited for one night [06:40] g'nite all === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire__ [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.6.181] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire__ [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.149.6.181] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-74-44.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ayabara [n=anr@194.196.35.3] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waves === ajmitch waves back === Jucato does nothing... === Hobbsee has lost her USB stick, dammit! [08:44] oh no :( [08:45] yep :( [08:45] at uni? === Jucato dreams of ice... [08:47] ajmitch: no, coming out of work. === _al_ [n=al@vento.yok.utu.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:50] <_al_> hello [08:50] hi [08:50] <_al_> is it known problem that konqueror on 64-bit feisty doesn't display any wep pages? === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:51] <_al_> 64-bit ff from installation source works ok [08:51] is there a bug filed on it already? [08:52] <_al_> Hobbsee: where can I check it? [08:53] _al_: the ubuntu bugtracker. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/ [08:56] <_al_> I don't find this kind of bug [08:57] <_al_> could someone else test konqueror on 64-bit feisty? [08:57] <_al_> konqueror shows the icon of page beside the address bar [09:00] what is the name of the packe I need for Qt headers and libraries? [09:01] Ayabara: kde-devel. libqt4-dev, iirc. [09:01] but kde-devel has all of them === Hobbsee doesnt have 64 bit, and is writing out a prac [09:02] Hobbsee, thanks. I'm building krusader, so I'll just take kde-devel to be on the safe side [09:02] Ayabara: try apt-get build-dep krusader then [09:03] Ayabara: libqt3-mt-dev (or libqt4-dev for Qt4) [09:03] Hobbsee: kde-devel doesn't install the Qt headers [09:04] thanks for the tips === RadiantFire__ [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:06] Jucato: dodgy. [09:06] :) [09:07] is it as dodgy as nvidia-glx not linux-restricted-modules-generic (or linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) ) with it? [09:07] I get a warning that my QTDIR variable is empty. do I need to set this one? [09:08] after you've installed libqt3-mt-dev? [09:09] Jucato, yep [09:09] hm... === Jucato doesn't know... [09:10] I'm in ubuntu instead of kubuntu now, because I have some problems with two monitors and kubuntu. is that relevant? [09:10] shouldnt do [09:10] might help if you restart gnome-terminal or whatever you're using, though, so that the variables get set [09:10] did you install kdelibs4-dev already (kde headers) [09:11] Hobbsee: btw, normally I'd recommend installing kde-devel directly... but after what I observed in upgrading to kubuntu.org KDE packages... I'm a bit reluctant... :( [09:12] Jucato: *shrug* - they're slightly broken? [09:13] Hobbsee: the KDE 3.5.6 packages didn't include a the kde-devel, kdebase, kde-core metapackages... (remember I asked you about it before) somehow that sort of conflicted a bit when I was trying to dist-upgrade === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:13] it's not set even if I restart konsole. is it vital? [09:14] anyway... that's over now... :) [09:14] Jucato: ahh, yes, i remember something about that now [09:15] yes, it would, if kde-devel etc wasnt a part of kde 3.5.6 [09:19] Hobbsee: are you suing the "Name (Description)" format in your K Menu? [09:19] yes [09:20] um.. is it showing the parenthesis? like Amarok (Audio Player)? === Jucato anxiously waits for Hobbsee... [09:22] can I set the qtdir manually then? [09:22] seems to be, yes [09:22] hm.. so we reverted to a previous behavior? [09:23] Ayabara: afaik yes. export the QTDIR variable... just don't know the correct path for it... === francis [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:23] it's /usr/qt3, iirc [09:23] or /usr [09:25] Jucato, Hobbsee, I don't have the /usr/qt3 dir [09:25] must be somewhere else then === Hobbsee keeps watching the troll [09:26] Ayabara: most probably you will use QTDIR=/usr [09:26] in #kubuntu? [09:26] no [09:26] ah [09:26] Jucato: ubuntu-devel, ubuntu, ubuntu-offtopic [09:26] ouch [09:26] good thing I'm not there :P [09:27] he's not really started trolling yet, and i cant kickban on sight === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@dslb-082-083-136-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:29] btw.. Feisty's kernel is 2.6.20.. does that mean we have the built-in read/write NTFS support? [09:30] there he goes. [09:30] and he's filing an official complaint to the ops council [09:30] hehe :) === Jucato gonna watch === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-253-163.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:31] go for it. === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:48] I would be right in thinking that, seeing as I don't have voice in #ubuntu-ops, my "hey Hobbsee" back wasn't heard? :P [09:50] stdin: it was [09:50] stdin: it's not moderated at the moment [09:50] stdin: i'm writing a prac out too, hence the lack of reply, and rejecting PEBKAC bugs [09:50] "my kernel doesnt fully work" - yes, that's because you havent actually updated all of your kernel, only some of it. [09:51] heh [09:51] I'm just trying to figure out hoe to "detect" a gnome session from a script === stdin puts off going to ##gnome for now === RadiantFire__ [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:16] detect how? as in if one is running ? [10:16] ps ax|grep gnome-session ? [10:18] that's what I'm doing [10:18] but what if one user is on KDE, and one is on KDR? [10:18] *KDE [10:18] guess it depends on what you are trying to do [10:20] just detect what environment the user is running to specialise a command to kde or gnome [10:21] stdin: just a hunch... take a look at the Amarok script to install MP3 codecs that Tonio made. I think it has a sort of detection.. but not sure if it tried to detect the session or the presence/absence of an app... [10:21] have a look at install-mp3 from amarok [10:21] O.o [10:22] what I'm using now is, "ps aux|grep gnome-session|grep $USER", but I want a "better" way [10:22] Jucato, Ridd*ell made that fyi, iirc ( not that it hasent been hacked on by almost all of us hehehe ) [10:22] stdin, as i said check the way install-mp3 does the check [10:22] imbrandon: ah ok. sorry for the misattribution.. :) === Jucato can barely remember who makes w/c script... but thinks he's sure that Tonio made the Flash installer script.. === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:24] he made the flash installer patch for konqui , not the flash installer script , thats from upstream debian [10:24] :) [10:24] hehe ok :) [10:24] install-mp3 is just a load of "if [ -x app ] ; then use it; elif [ -x app2 ] use that; else use this, and I can do that, but what if they have *ubuntu-desktop installed [10:25] stdin, then your golden either way === hunger_t is now known as hunger [10:26] yeah, but I don't want a GTK style app on a Qt desktop, and vice verse. And, yes, I know i'm being picky here :P [10:26] well your kinda screwed there by the very nature of open source, because you can have both installed [10:27] you you really cant check for one or the other , there is no "alternatives" , and secondly you can have a gnome AND kde session going too [10:27] but the user can only have 1 session running at a time, well not quite, at one login anyway [10:27] i can have 5 sessions going each with a diffrent DE ;) === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-244-121.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:27] yeah, I meant 1 session per login [10:28] point is your probably going to make one "default" and fallback to the other IF you want it in the same package [10:28] (without getting to deep) for the average user [10:28] no i can login once, and have 5 sessions going , each with a diffrtent DE [10:28] I can detect if KDE is running, easy, just use a dcop command [10:29] sure, but can you detect if thats what i'm using ? [10:29] i may have it running, then click on your app from a fluxbox de session, but ps ax|grep startkde will be ther and dcop will work [10:29] see ? [10:29] mmm, beer [10:30] beer? on a friday? hm... :) [10:31] bahh, I give, lots of if statements for me then :P [10:32] or just create two packages ;) [10:32] it's just a script, and I don't feel like having script-gtk and script-kde, just lazy I guess [10:33] but to tell you the honest truth , if your only worried about the toolkit ( e.g. look of it ) and not intergration and using the features of one toolkit and libs vs another, ubuntu/kubuntu have packages installed by default that make gtk look qt in kde and vice versa [10:33] so if your not using say khtml vs geko or something, your better off just picking one, it will look ok anyhow [10:34] yeah, It just captured my curiosity, wanted to see if i could do it :) [10:34] ( and have a fallback incase the other isnt installed , like install-mp3 falls back to plain old xdialog ) === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-77156.0x5734b54a.naenxx12.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:36] <_StefanS_> mornings :) [10:37] _StefanS_: !!!!!! [10:37] <_StefanS_> hey you [10:37] <_StefanS_> havent you gone sleeping yet ? [10:37] <_StefanS_> it must be very late hehe [10:37] hm.. 5:36 PM :D [10:37] <_StefanS_> heh ZzzzZzz [10:37] I have another "bug" for you :) [10:38] :P [10:38] <_StefanS_> heh, why am I not suprised [10:38] <_StefanS_> I have to get some coffee, or else I will die on the keyboard soon.. brb [10:38] it's not that "critical" anyway.. maybe can be put off for some other time if you want :D [10:41] <_StefanS_> ok back [10:42] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I'm curious, let me know :) [10:43] if (doUbuntuLogout=0) RestartButton = NOT_WORKING; [10:43] (yeah I know, terrible code) [10:44] <_StefanS_> what the .. [10:44] <_StefanS_> hm [10:44] but like I said, it's not critical because few people will probably be using the old logout menu (or would know how to revert to the old one) :D === naught101 [n=naught10@202.43.229.95] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:46] <_StefanS_> hmm thats weird, because both the new and the old restart button use the same : connect(btnReboot, SIGNAL(clicked()), SLOT(slotReboot())); connect(btnReboot, SIGNAL(clicked()), SLOT(slotReboot())); [10:46] <_StefanS_> exactly the same code [10:47] how do I turn off unmounted media auto-mounting? [10:47] I unset the auto action in system settings/kcontrol, and when I start it again, it's set on again [10:47] _StefanS_: maybe my system is just wacky... could you test it on yours? [10:48] <_StefanS_> sire [10:48] <_StefanS_> sure [10:48] on your very reliable vmware system :) === Jucato hopes that he is wrong to save _StefanS_ additional work :D [10:48] <_StefanS_> luckily i have a vmware image to test it on.. [10:48] <_StefanS_> its booting, so lets see [10:49] hm.. btw, I'm guessing that there's another separate setting to change the "Shutdown" dialog box in the Login screen back to the old one, right? [10:50] if I go to kcontrol>peripherals>storage media>unmounted removable media, and toggle the auto-action for "open in new window" off, it comes back next time I open kcontrol... === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db442dc.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:52] I can set "do nothing" as the auto action, but I can't turn the auto action off... [10:54] and even with "do nothing" set as the auto action, everytime I edit the partitions on my USB harddrive, the partitions get mounted after every operation, which really buggers things up.... === _neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db44512.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:14] <_StefanS_> Jucato: It should use the same switch, however I'm not sure if it actually works [11:14] <_StefanS_> Jucato: just add that [Logout] \n doUbuntuLogout=0 to kdmrc [11:16] _StefanS_: ok. how about that restart button not working? [11:16] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I haven't tested it yet [11:17] <_StefanS_> had to do some work [11:17] ah ok [11:17] no worries :) [11:18] <_StefanS_> hmm restart doesn't work - you're right [11:18] :( [11:21] <_StefanS_> hmm it must be related to the dropdown === naught101 [n=naught10@202.43.229.95] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:23] <_StefanS_> if you enable grub in login manager, and select a kernel entry it works.. === Riddell plays bad cop, imbrandon plays good cop [11:24] hah [11:24] :D === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:31] <_StefanS_> Jucato: cant really see what is wrong.. [11:31] <_StefanS_> Jucato: code is the same, and dont get activated at the same time [11:31] :( [11:32] <_StefanS_> Jucato: maybe there's something to find in the unpatched kdebase === apokryphos finds Jucato's blog and picture at the same time :P [11:32] heh :) [11:33] is it just me or has the K Menu entries reverted to having parentheses if you use the Name (Description) format? [11:34] does seem to have [11:34] I thought upstream removed the brackets [11:35] yeah I thought so too.. [11:35] possibly our fault I'm not sure [11:35] I asked someone from Gentoo using KDE 3.5.6 and he says he still has no parentheses... trying to look for others to confirm === Jucato likes the parentheses to be there though... :) [11:36] <_StefanS_> Jucato: ah crap :) - the code was commented out for the classic button [11:36] <_StefanS_> just noticed the // in front of the declaration [11:36] heh :) [11:39] Riddell, you catch all that ? [11:39] yay \0/ [11:41] yes [11:42] now you just have to wait for NEW to be pushed through [11:43] btw, Filelight 1.0 didn't make it to Feisty? It has the fix to the crash on exit bug [11:44] <_StefanS_> Riddell: Jucato found a bug in the classic logout (if you decide to enable it), restart button doesn't work [but is FIXED] . maybe its too much to upload just for that [11:44] _StefanS_: if you have a patch that should be fine to upload [11:44] <_StefanS_> ok [11:44] <_StefanS_> just a removal of two / [11:44] <_StefanS_> heh, I made a stupid mistake there.. [11:45] Riddell: psn says that Kubuntu Edgy w/ KDE 3.5.6 doesn't have the parenthesis in K Menu. might be a Feisty only "bug" [11:46] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I have the paranthesis on both my feisty's [11:46] hm... ok... O.o [11:46] <_StefanS_> will try an edgy w/3.5.6 now [11:48] <_StefanS_> edgy with 3.5.6 has parenthesis also [11:49] <_StefanS_> I'm trying a regular edgy now [11:49] Sho_ pointed me to http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/kicker/kicker/ui/service_mnu.cpp?view=log#rev635743 [11:49] _StefanS_: are both your feisty's fully updated? [11:50] Sho_ said aseigo returned the parentheses and made it changeable by i18n === naught102 [n=naught10@202.43.229.95] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:50] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well the feisty that wasn't upgraded from edgy only have the updates yesterday [11:51] Jucato: that commit was after 3.5.6 [11:52] yeah. could it be that we somehow got kde from branches? [11:52] <_StefanS_> however the standard edgy does not have the parenthesis even though "Name (Description)" was enabled [11:52] _StefanS_: yeah. that's the "feature" in KDE 3.5.5 and 3.5.6 [11:53] <_StefanS_> well I dont see the problem in _any_ 3.5.6 [11:53] <_StefanS_> only with edgy and 3.5.5 [11:54] _StefanS_: do you have the file /etc/alternatives/xinput-all_ALL on many of your setups? [11:54] <_StefanS_> 2secs [11:56] <_StefanS_> on my current feisty (latest upgrades)=NO [11:56] <_StefanS_> edgy standard=NO [11:56] <_StefanS_> more comming.. [11:58] <_StefanS_> edgy w/3.5.6=NO [11:59] <_StefanS_> another feisty without todays updates= NO [11:59] <_StefanS_> so . . no xinput-all_ALL [12:01] crazy, where did it go? [12:01] maybe I just imagined it [12:01] <_StefanS_> ehm donno.. what does it do ? :) [12:01] <_StefanS_> nothing important I hope hehe [12:02] funky things for inputting complex characters [12:02] <_StefanS_> uhm ok [12:02] <_StefanS_> let me know if you want to check more === Tonio_ [n=tonio@205.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:06] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ! [12:07] hey _StefanS_ ;) [12:07] hi Tonio_! [12:08] hi Jucato, hi everyone [12:15] <_StefanS_> show me the money ! [12:15] <_StefanS_> :D === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] _StefanS_: hehe :) [12:24] hiya [12:24] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee [12:25] :) [12:26] hiya hiya [12:26] :) [12:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: check you email , the bugfix is there for you :) [12:30] <_StefanS_> Jucato: ^ [12:33] _StefanS_: why does that need to be commented out? [12:35] <_StefanS_> Riddell: well it doesn't, it was an error from my side [12:36] <_StefanS_> just grab the attached file, it is fixed [12:39] _StefanS_: I know, it just helps to understand how it has been fixed [12:40] <_StefanS_> yep I understand [12:41] _StefanS_: the patch you sent is the opposite of what your introduction says [12:41] <_StefanS_> ah :) [12:41] > +// connect(btnReboot, SIGNAL(clicked()), [12:41] but it removes the // [12:41] <_StefanS_> well thats just me and diff's :D [12:41] <_StefanS_> just ignore me [12:41] so removing the comment is good? [12:42] _StefanS_: is there a bug number for this? [12:42] <_StefanS_> donno, Jucato reported it .. [12:43] <_StefanS_> Think it was because he decided to test the classic logout, he stumbled upon that bug [12:43] <_StefanS_> you can hold it till you have more things going into kde [12:44] <_StefanS_> (just my opinion ) [12:46] _StefanS_: uploaded [12:47] <_StefanS_> goody [12:47] <_StefanS_> Jucato: did you get that ? or are you sleeping ? :) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-041-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:50] he shouldn't be sleeping at this time [12:51] no, he wont be sleeping now [12:51] may be eating dinner though === mbiebl [n=michael@e180065156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180065156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato was eating fish again... [01:03] Riddell: no there wasn't a bug report for it. I just ran across the bug when I was playing w/ the new and old logout dialogs [01:03] give em to wus rwarr! [01:04] :D [01:05] Jucato: sushi? [01:06] Hobbsee: nah... plain, dried, salted, fish [01:06] ahhh [01:08] "crips fried sun-dried rabbitfish" <--- seems to be the English name/term for what I just ate :D === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:21] excuse my ignorance, but how easy is it to create a live CD? [01:22] is it possible to make a cvs/svn version? [01:31] seele: it needs lots of bandwidth and disk space and memory but it's not hard === Hobbsee goes argh @ kile [01:31] seele: version of what? you would need .deb packages of anything you wanted on the CD === luis_lopez [n=jabba@68.182.89.125] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:35] Tonio_: is there a way to modify which theme the Kopete main window uses? or is stuck that? [01:35] Jucato: talk about the contact list ? [01:35] yep [01:35] Jucato: that requires a patch I removed since that causes visibility issues on high resolutions [01:35] Jucato: so no way for now [01:35] ah [01:35] ok thanks :) [01:36] Jucato: maybe that'll be merged upstream so we'll use that then [01:36] that was discussed for kopete kde4 plan [01:36] ah yeah, they're going to use that right? kool :) [01:37] yep they'll just have to fix the high res issue [01:40] hm... we hid the Katapult systray icon right? === Jucato wonders why it suddenly showed up after dist-upgrade to Feisty... [01:41] shouldn't do [01:41] must be some silly config I somehow mucked up... [01:41] Riddell: version of the kubuntu tools such as whatever is latest for ubiquity and system settings and etc. [01:43] seele: latest versions in the archive you can get from http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/ [01:44] seele: if there's a fix that hasn't been uploaded or has only been uploaded today so isn't on the daily CD you can get it out of revision control from the running live CD session and use that [01:44] Riddell: ok thanks === apachelogger [n=me@N862P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:55] fabo: poke [02:06] Riddell: with the dist-upgrader, do we first upgrade apt, then the rest, or what? [02:06] Riddell: aptitude, etc, seems to end up with broken packages, seeing as libapt seems to have an API bump === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] Hobbsee: you let it do what it does [02:09] Riddell: a guy in #ubuntu+1 ran the kubuntu dist-upgrader, and it broke. [02:09] Hobbsee: can you bring him in here? [02:11] Riddell: asking === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [02:11] I think there are also problems w/ the kde metapackages (kde-devel, kdebase, kdelibs, and kde-core, namely) specially if installed w/ aptitude... === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === soulrider [n=root@201.221.46.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:11] hi [02:12] heya [02:12] Riddell: ^ [02:12] oh it's soulrider... [02:12] hi soulrider, you had a problem with the dist upgrade tool? [02:12] (soulrider: you shouldn't IRC as root) [02:12] i know, im usign the recovery console [02:13] apokryphos: it's mid dist-upgrade, anything's possible :P [02:13] and i dont know how to log in as me :P [02:13] Jucato: what problems? [02:13] Hobbsee: ah, more exciting 8) [02:14] Riddell: i had to cancel the dist-upgrade tool when it was downloading the packages, after i came back to kubuntu, i didnt know how to open it so i decided to do 'aptitude dist-upgrade' [02:14] Riddell: I forgot to take note. but version conflicts since the Edgy KDE 3.5.6 repo doesn't seem to contain those metapackages (or something like that...) sorry I really forgot to take note [02:14] soulrider: so it was running fine before you cancelled? [02:14] at the end of the upgrade it gave me some trouble with some packages so i went into the recovery console and did a dist-upgrade again, but now a dependency of adept-* and aptitude is gon [02:14] e [02:14] apokryphos: it was [02:15] its my fault i ahd to close it [02:15] ah, the dist-upgrade tool is non-cancellable once it has started installing stuff [02:15] maybe we should make that more clear [02:16] Riddell: yeah, i had no idea about that... [02:16] soulrider: why did you have to cancel it? because of a problem in the process or just a user issue? [02:16] Riddell: i had around 850mb of updates and it was downloading at 20kb/s [02:16] user issue [02:16] the program was working alright [02:16] cancelling during downloading should be fine, but during install it will break things [02:17] no, it was downloading [02:19] Riddell: i tried looking for the package im missing in packages.ubuntu.com and it doesnt seem to be there =/ [02:19] what are you missing? [02:19] its [02:19] libapt-pkg6.4-63.53 [02:19] libapt-pkg6.4-6-3.53 * [02:21] that's part of apt [02:21] all adept-* packages and aptitude are broken [02:23] Riddell: next week I'll reinstall my machine and I will do a complete review of kds and all default installed apps [02:24] Riddell: can't do much in packaging now === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:24] Riddell: I'll have to prepare the zagreb conference so I might not be available for one or 2 days [02:24] Riddell: and appart from that, howdy ? ;) [02:24] heh :) === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm4.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] Tonio_: I'd tech you some Croat but I've completely forgotten it [02:27] soulrider: make sure apt is installed [02:29] Riddell: apt is ok [02:29] i can use apt-get [02:29] Riddell: hehe, I hope their english is correct, and better than french one :) [02:29] Riddell: good news is that luka will be there too :) === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee takls to the basket guy [02:29] heya toma === DHGE [n=alois@i577A943A.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:29] hi Hobbsee [02:30] hi all [02:30] hey toma [02:31] where is the kdepim bug squash party? [02:32] i wish i could do more progamming and be able to help.... :( [02:33] soulrider: there are many ways to help. testing the dist-upgrader was/is one of them :) [02:33] you can help triage bugs (so many old ones...) too [02:34] Jucato: as soon as we fix this (or reinstall) im gonna see if i read more aboutt hat [02:34] i can do programming, just not in c++ or python :P [02:34] hehe :) === Hobbsee wonders how one closes http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=313671 [02:35] Debian bug 313671 in basket "basket: [INTL:de] German PO file corrections" [Minor,Open] [02:38] Hobbsee: where does upstream live? [02:38] kde svn? [02:38] toma: basket.kde.org. not sure exaclty [02:38] toma: apparently not, based on the amarok development channel - at the moment, anyway [02:39] Hobbsee: true, can not find the translations there [02:39] i guess you should sent it to the maintainer [02:40] s/t/d/ [02:40] toma: according to the upstream guy, the german translation is complete for 1.0 [02:40] [00:34] In 1.0, German translation is full, and I think they solved the "BasKet is also translated and it shouldn't be" issue [02:40] the report states he fixed some issues [02:41] they should be reviewed i gues [02:41] im gonna reboot and try to use the new kernel [02:41] s [02:41] if that fails i think im gonna have to reinstall everything [02:41] goodbye! ^_^ === manchicken [n=mstemle@network-65-167-67-16.doubleclick.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm4.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:50] Hobbsee: do i need additional permissions to close others' bugs? [02:50] toma: in debian or ubuntu? [02:50] launchpad [02:51] when i link to an upstream report that is closed, will the report be closed as well? [02:54] !release [02:54]