| Ubugtu | New bug: #92679 in rosetta "Disable distro release translations with EOL" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92679 | 12:26 |
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| jml | good grief, there's a pie chart | 12:29 |
| ddaa | oh, shiny! where? | 12:40 |
| thumper | ddaa: you haven't seen them yet? | 12:40 |
| ddaa | sorry, been too busy staring at my belly button | 12:40 |
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| ddaa | thumper: sorry, that was rude | 12:48 |
| thumper | ddaa: rude? I didn't think so | 12:49 |
| jml | ddaa: bugs page | 12:49 |
| ddaa | good... sometime self-derision does not come across right | 12:49 |
| jml | although there doesn't seem to be a bug listing any more, just a bug search :\ | 12:49 |
| ddaa | https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bugs | 12:50 |
| ddaa | no pie... | 12:50 |
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| jml | https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/ | 12:50 |
| Fujitsu | ddaa: Take out the +bugs | 12:50 |
| ddaa | that's where I go by clicking on the bugs tab... | 12:51 |
| jml | I'm not sure that it's possible to navigate to that page. | 12:51 |
| jml | oh. | 12:51 |
| ddaa | label positioning is broken | 12:51 |
| jml | nope | 12:51 |
| ddaa | here, the count of in progress ovelap with the work "committed" | 12:52 |
| ddaa | * the word | 12:52 |
| Fujitsu | ddaa: I saw a bug about that, I think. | 12:52 |
| ddaa | it's pretty, and useless... good | 12:52 |
| Fujitsu | That's all that matters, prettyness. | 12:53 |
| ddaa | I do not really understand the kicks people get from project stats... | 12:53 |
| Fujitsu | The Ubuntu one isn't pretty, though. It's outright depressing. | 12:53 |
| ddaa | mh | 12:54 |
| ddaa | okay... I think I understand better | 12:54 |
| Fujitsu | ? | 12:54 |
| ddaa | when you compares to two pie charts, is does say something | 12:54 |
| ddaa | nothing that each project does not already know about itself | 12:54 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah. | 12:55 |
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| Fujitsu | You do seem tolike doing that, ddaa. | 12:55 |
| Fujitsu | *to like | 12:55 |
| ddaa | I understand now | 12:55 |
| ddaa | I have that bug again | 12:55 |
| ddaa | where "ctrl-a" behaves like "ctrl-q" | 12:55 |
| Fujitsu | Sounds like fun. | 12:56 |
| ddaa | iz gtk bug | 12:56 |
| Fujitsu | You always quit, come back, have your connection reset, then come back again. | 12:56 |
| jml | oh wow. the fonts on the advanced search page are really tiny. | 12:57 |
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| radix | hm | 01:00 |
| radix | so occasionally when I click on a bug link in beta I'm getting prompted by firefox about whether I want to download a bin file | 01:00 |
| radix | the name of the bin file being the bug number | 01:01 |
| Fujitsu | radix: I got that a few times a couple of days ago. | 01:01 |
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| radix | generally cancelling it and clicking again works. | 01:01 |
| Fujitsu | I thought it was at my end. | 01:01 |
| Fujitsu | Yep. | 01:01 |
| radix | I guess something is randomly forgetting to set the Content-Type. | 01:01 |
| radix | by which I mean intermittently. | 01:01 |
| Fujitsu | Intermittent bugs. The best kind. | 01:02 |
| LarstiQ | radix: I had that a lot at the end of January | 01:02 |
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| jml | ddaa: that has got to be frustrating. | 01:05 |
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| khermans__ | can someone explain to me the 'karma' feature? | 02:33 |
| jamesh | khermans__: does https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaCalculation amswer your questions? | 02:37 |
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| khermans__ | jam, better -- who has the highest karma? | 02:38 |
| jamesh | khermans__: I am not sure. You can see the people with the most karma for individual products or distributions though | 02:42 |
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| khermans__ | who has the most karma for Ubuntu, and how is this determined | 02:53 |
| LaserJock | khermans__: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | khermans__: and it's determined on how much work and where you do it | 03:03 |
| jamesh | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors is the page he'd be able to actually view :) | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | oh darn, yeah | 03:10 |
| LaserJock | jamesh: oh, I was told you might know something about librarian | 03:13 |
| jamesh | LaserJock: spiv is the one who wrote most of the librarian, but I might be able to help | 03:13 |
| jamesh | what's the problem? | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | well, it's the each file get's it's own directory thing | 03:14 |
| LaserJock | it's difficult to get source packages off of LP | 03:14 |
| LaserJock | because normally all the files in a source package .dsc, .diff.gz, and .orig.tar.gz are in the same dir | 03:14 |
| LaserJock | so the tools we use to get them like dget won't work with LP | 03:15 |
| LaserJock | I was trying to think of a way to get around this problem, but I don't know how it all works obviosly | 03:15 |
| LaserJock | I could imagine maybe a file that had the URLs for the files | 03:16 |
| LaserJock | that could be parsed by a tool | 03:16 |
| jamesh | like the source package release page? :) | 03:16 |
| LaserJock | or some sort of fancy URL redirect | 03:16 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but that means screen scrapping, no? | 03:17 |
| jamesh | can't you use apt for this? | 03:17 |
| jamesh | or are you talking about old versions of packages? | 03:17 |
| LaserJock | both | 03:17 |
| LaserJock | people using Edgy who want to grab the Feisty package | 03:17 |
| LaserJock | or the other way around | 03:17 |
| LaserJock | or grabbing from -proposed | 03:18 |
| LaserJock | or whatever | 03:18 |
| LaserJock | we very often want to grab source packages that are not apt-getable | 03:18 |
| LaserJock | normally we use dget | 03:18 |
| LaserJock | you give it the .dsc and it automatically wget's the files that are referenced in it | 03:18 |
| jamesh | so you are always looking for the latest version for some repository though, right? | 03:19 |
| LaserJock | no | 03:19 |
| LaserJock | sometimes we are trying to figure out diffs between packages | 03:19 |
| LaserJock | they might not even be in the archives | 03:19 |
| LaserJock | only on LP | 03:19 |
| LaserJock | once a packages is superseded it gets removed from the archives | 03:20 |
| jamesh | I don't think the librarian will change to put multiple files in a directory or similar (it is designed for serving individual files) | 03:20 |
| LaserJock | right | 03:20 |
| jamesh | but you could file a bug for the "URLs for all the files for this package" idea | 03:20 |
| LaserJock | I was just thinking maybe it's possible to tie the files together in a way that makes it possible to get them in a non-web way | 03:21 |
| jamesh | (of course, using Bazaar branches instead of source packages might help here too ... | 03:21 |
| LaserJock | heh | 03:21 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that would to a fair extent | 03:21 |
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| zarul | anyone around? | 03:48 |
| LaserJock | no | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | maybe | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | you never know :-) | 03:49 |
| zarul | Just wanna ask, how come the mailbox of my group ,members been bombarded with "support request" for the last 2 days | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | hmm, are they related to your group at all? | 03:51 |
| zarul | no | 03:51 |
| zarul | the reason why it pissed off a lot of my members | 03:51 |
| zarul | ticket4202@support.launchpad.net> | 03:52 |
| zarul | tozarulshahrin@gmail.com | 03:52 |
| zarul | dateMar 16, 2007 10:48 AM | 03:52 |
| zarul | subject[Support #4202] : Is there any way to choose which OS when the comp start? | 03:52 |
| zarul | Support request #4202 on Ubuntu changed: | 03:52 |
| zarul | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/4202 | 03:52 |
| zarul | Description changed to: | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | how many are you getting, roughly? | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | and what is your team? | 03:55 |
| zarul | scary,you don't want to know, its like every support tickets was mailed to us.. | 03:55 |
| zarul | MalaysianTeam | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | ok, yeah | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | I see you are subscribed to it | 03:55 |
| zarul | is it? How was that possible? | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | I really don't know | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | on your team page I don't see it | 03:56 |
| zarul | yeah, the reason why I am here...this sounds so weird.. | 03:57 |
| zarul | a bug? | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm not a Launcpad dev | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | but I think you might want to email the launchpad-users mailing list | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | it looks pretty funky to me | 03:58 |
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| sabdfl | zarul: can you unsubscribe your team | 04:09 |
| sabdfl | ? | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | oh, hi sabdfl | 04:10 |
| sabdfl | howdy | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | kinda early there isn't it? | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | wherever you are | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | probably getting ready to hit the slopes :) | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | oh man, we had excellent skiing there for a while | 04:10 |
| zarul | sabdfl, there is no way I can do that | 04:10 |
| sabdfl | it's somewhere between very late and very early | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | now this week it's record highs | 04:10 |
| sabdfl | zarul: the person to speak with is flacoste | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | we hit 80F an people are still skiing up at the top | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | *and | 04:11 |
| sabdfl | zarul: is it just that ticket, or lots of them? | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | sounds like lots of them | 04:11 |
| zarul | sabdfl, a lot of them | 04:12 |
| LaserJock | although it could be just lots of comments on that one | 04:12 |
| sabdfl | zarul: do you think someone maliciously subscribed your team to a lot of tickets? | 04:12 |
| sabdfl | stub: there's an oddness in the db | 04:12 |
| zarul | sabdfl, I am not sure with that... | 04:12 |
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| zarul | Some of my members have deactivated their accounts | 04:13 |
| zarul | and others sending me email complaining | 04:13 |
| zarul | I wish I know who is the culprit | 04:14 |
| sabdfl | yeah, this is frustrating | 04:17 |
| sabdfl | stub: is there a way to remove the Malaysian Team from all questions? | 04:17 |
| sabdfl | zarul: in a copy of the db from yesterday, your team has zero subscriptions | 04:19 |
| sabdfl | i can look again tomorrow to see which ones are there | 04:20 |
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| zarul | yeah, that's the reason why is so weird, cause we didn't subscribe to it and our page also tell us the same story... | 04:20 |
| spiv | LaserJock: sorry, was busy pairing with lifeless on something | 04:20 |
| lifeless | PPA is all about this | 04:21 |
| spiv | LaserJock: talk to cprov | 04:21 |
| lifeless | theres more to an archive than just the immediate source files | 04:22 |
| spiv | As lifeless says, PPA is intended to help with this I think. | 04:22 |
| lifeless | theres the metadata for what distrorelease its for etc | 04:22 |
| spiv | (and more) | 04:22 |
| zarul | the latest one I got was | 04:22 |
| zarul | New support request #4225 on Ubuntu: | 04:22 |
| lifeless | so I'd expect that to be a solid solution. | 04:22 |
| zarul | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/4225 | 04:22 |
| lifeless | also, we could have four urls in the main lp namespace that redirect, if we wanted | 04:22 |
| lifeless | i.e. lp.net/ubuntu/+source/foo/2.5.4-23/foo_2.5.4-23.dsc | 04:23 |
| lifeless | we dont today, but thats a possibility | 04:23 |
| LaserJock | lifeless: I was thinking about that | 04:23 |
| lifeless | only works for stuff uploaded though | 04:23 |
| LaserJock | but it might be interesting with non-native vs native packages | 04:23 |
| LaserJock | but yeah PPA might help there | 04:24 |
| LaserJock | but will PPA affect the Ubuntu archive? | 04:24 |
| spiv | The librarian is the wrong level to address this at. | 04:24 |
| lifeless | LaserJock: hang on, why do you want to give lp urls at all ? | 04:24 |
| lifeless | LaserJock: why not give ubuntu archive urls ? | 04:24 |
| lifeless | spiv: the librarian doesn't serve the archive yet does it ? | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | lifeless: because archive packages come and go | 04:25 |
| spiv | lifeless: not AFAIK | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | we want access to every source package ever :-) | 04:25 |
| lifeless | LaserJock: the librarian has garbage collection too though | 04:25 |
| zarul | sabdfl, could this be a bug? | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | well, it's a lot better than archive.u.c | 04:25 |
| lifeless | LaserJock: AFAIK no | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | sure it is | 04:25 |
| sabdfl | zarul: yes, it could be | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | I've been able to get lots of superseeded (sp?) packages from LP | 04:26 |
| spiv | lifeless: in my extremely limited experience, packages I've wanted that have disappeared from the archive are always available in the librarian via LP. | 04:26 |
| jamesh | zarul: so you can't uncheck Malaysian Team at "https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+support-contact" ? | 04:26 |
| lifeless | LaserJock: hmm, its probably because we're gc'ing the archive more aggressively to be nice to mirrors | 04:26 |
| LaserJock | lifeless: I get stuff waaay back | 04:27 |
| lifeless | LaserJock: anyhow, the key things are: theres no base url you can use today, if you want to do something like that put in a spec request, otherwise you may end up being stufed. | 04:27 |
| lifeless | LaserJock: and if you can get all the files from lp, consider using beautiful soup to gather the urls easily. | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | so far I've never run across a case where a source version was on the source package but the package files weren't there | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | bah, that was an aweful sentence | 04:28 |
| sabdfl | oh | 04:28 |
| sabdfl | i see what's going on | 04:28 |
| sabdfl | someone has made a bunch of teams into answer-contacts for ubuntu | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | it's just a tad frustrating that it's much easier to get packages from Debian or REVU or pretty much any archive other than Launchpad :/ | 04:29 |
| sabdfl | mpt: we were talking about having a registrant and datecreated for every table? | 04:29 |
| sabdfl | this is why | 04:29 |
| zarul | jamesh, thanks for that, I unchecked it .. | 04:30 |
| jamesh | zarul: check the subscriber lists for a few of the tickets you got email about | 04:31 |
| jamesh | zarul: to make sure the team is off the list | 04:31 |
| sabdfl | https://answers.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+support-contact | 04:31 |
| zarul | but, can anyone just check the thing? | 04:31 |
| jamesh | zarul: given the way the UI is at the moment, it would have been done by a member of the team | 04:31 |
| sabdfl | we need to track who creates any given record, and when | 04:31 |
| sabdfl | then we would know | 04:32 |
| jamesh | it would probably be worth only letting team admins set a team as a support contact or bug contact | 04:32 |
| lifeless | sabdfl: also who changes one I think, to catch people that unsubscribe when a team is meant to be subscribed | 04:32 |
| zarul | yeah, this doesn't sound cool as people have malicious things in their head.. | 04:32 |
| zarul | *some people | 04:33 |
| jamesh | sounds like the time for a witch hunt | 04:33 |
| sabdfl | burn 'im | 04:33 |
| LaserJock | more witches! | 04:33 |
| zarul | sabdfl, anyway we can track who changed the status? | 04:33 |
| jamesh | LaserJock might be a witch | 04:33 |
| sabdfl | zarul: no | 04:34 |
| LaserJock | but ... | 04:34 |
| sabdfl | shhhh... | 04:34 |
| LaserJock | I swear, sabdfl turned me into a newt! | 04:34 |
| ajmitch | jamesh: depend if he's heavier than a duck | 04:34 |
| jamesh | ajmitch: I hear that witches aren't fire proof, which is why burning at the stake is a good way of detecting them | 04:35 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 04:35 |
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| jamesh | LaserJock: that sounds like the sort of thing a witch would do | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | shhh | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | I might have to get out my Holy Hand Grenade to protect myself | 04:37 |
| LaserJock | that LP has big pointy teeth | 04:37 |
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| zarul | gosh, LP should have an option to let us email all our team members.. | 04:49 |
| thumper | zarul: interesting, file a bug | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | I think there's already bugs for having team ML or some such | 04:58 |
| thumper | hmm | 04:59 |
| thumper | thinking though it may be open to abuse if you have a general "contact team" button ;-) | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | it's got to be carefully done I think | 04:59 |
| thumper | perhaps have it visible if you are a member of the team | 04:59 |
| thumper | and not if you aren't | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | perhaps | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | although maybe it should be configurable like personal email addresses | 05:00 |
| zarul | sorta like | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | considering that many/most people have contact emails on LP | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | maybe it's not a huge stretch to have team emails available | 05:01 |
| zarul | users allowed to configure whether to only receive emails from admin or every members | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | I think there was a suggestion of just having like <teamlpid>@lists.launchpad.net or something similar | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | but that would seem open to a lot of abuse | 05:03 |
| stub | zarul, sabdfl: Is this sorted, or is there something I need to remove manually? | 05:38 |
| stub | (sorry - was making a screencast for tom) | 05:38 |
| zarul | stub, problem solved | 05:38 |
| zarul | for now atleast | 05:39 |
| sabdfl | stub: it's sorted | 05:40 |
| sabdfl | but please make a note that we need a date_created and registrant on every table | 05:40 |
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| sabdfl | so we know, for example, who made the Malaysian Team a bug contact on Ubuntu | 05:41 |
| sabdfl | thanks stub | 05:41 |
| sabdfl | this is true even for things like subscriptions - because Joe can subscribe Paul, and we need to know whodunnit | 05:41 |
| stub | ok | 05:47 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #92751 in rosetta "Translation export does not indicate release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92751 | 09:15 |
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| carlos | morning | 09:31 |
| mdke | morning carlos! | 09:32 |
| carlos | mdke: hey, I didn't have time yesterday to finish with kubuntu-docs and ubuntu-docs | 09:33 |
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| carlos | mdke: I just approved all ubuntu-docs templates, they should be full imported in next hours | 10:18 |
| carlos | /away I'm not here | 10:31 |
| carlos | :-P | 10:31 |
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| sabdfl | stub: also, registrant+date_created gives us easier RSS feeds etc | 12:25 |
| sabdfl | i noticed we don't have date_created on distrorelease! | 12:25 |
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| cprov | good morning folks ! | 12:47 |
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| Kmos | new ubuntu.com webpage online :) | 12:56 |
| stub | sabdfl: I went through a while ago and added a lot to all the things that seemed sensible. It didn't click at the time for subscriptions, but I agree we should have it. | 12:57 |
| sabdfl | thanks stub | 12:57 |
| stub | sabdfl: distrorelease - I somehow think I left it off there for some reason. Are there other dates appropriate already in there? | 12:57 |
| sabdfl | oh, weird | 12:58 |
| sabdfl | it's in the db, just not in the class | 12:58 |
| stub | distrorelease has a date_reated | 12:58 |
| sabdfl | or maybe i'm on crack | 12:58 |
| stub | yup. I added it to the tables but left updating the classes to others... | 12:58 |
| sabdfl | ah... | 12:58 |
| sabdfl | cop-out ;-) | 12:59 |
| sabdfl | did you file bugs where they don't exist, at least? | 12:59 |
| stub | Prime goal was landing the patch quickly so we started collecting the data asap :) | 12:59 |
| stub | Nope | 12:59 |
| sabdfl | furry muff | 12:59 |
| stub | My aim is to get the interfaces validated against the db schema, or even generate most of the interfaces. | 01:00 |
| sabdfl | validation i would go with | 01:00 |
| stub | chicken | 01:00 |
| sabdfl | we could easily check that SQLObject classes map correctly to the db | 01:00 |
| stub | I'm leaving it until Storm so I don't have to do it twice | 01:01 |
| stub | (and also because I won't have time until then anyway...) | 01:01 |
| sabdfl | that's reasonable | 01:01 |
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| kiko-zzz | bon giorno | 01:49 |
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| kiko | stub, ah, so date_created is missing from distrorelease too? | 01:49 |
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| Kmos | kiko: http://www.goplan.info - made in portugal :) | 02:44 |
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| kiko | where's jordi | 04:08 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #92853 in launchpad "output missing lpm namespace (invalid XML)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92853 | 06:05 |
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| lfittl | is "nominate for release" the correct thing if something should be fixed in feisty and edgy? | 06:54 |
| pochu | lfittl: I think so | 06:55 |
| pochu | of course, you should nominate for edgy :) | 06:55 |
| lfittl | ok, and should i nominate it for feisty as well? | 06:56 |
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| pochu | lfittl: what bug is it? | 07:05 |
| lfittl | 69701 | 07:06 |
| lfittl | malone #69701 | 07:06 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 69701 in tktable "tktable installs faulty pkgIndex.tcl" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69701 - Assigned to Daniel Rus Morales (rus-daniel) | 07:06 |
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| statik | ddaa: know anything about that python-subversion crash on AMD64? bug 91848 | 07:28 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 91848 in subversion "segfault when importing libsvn.wc in python 2.4 on feisty/amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91848 | 07:28 |
| ddaa | statik: upstream python bindings suck more than an industrial vacuum cleaner in a whorehouse? | 07:29 |
| ddaa | or did you ask about specific knowledge about this bug? | 07:29 |
| statik | ddaa: not a SWIG fan, eh? | 07:30 |
| ddaa | nothing against SWIG | 07:30 |
| statik | ddaa: yeah, I'm more interested in avoiding or helping to solve this particular bug | 07:30 |
| ddaa | something against how it's used in this case, and AFAICT it's "badly" by any measure. | 07:30 |
| statik | I tried the workaround of removing svn_oo from cscvs/moduels/SCM/__init__.py, but that doesn't seem to avoid the crash in my case | 07:30 |
| ddaa | ha right | 07:31 |
| statik | just thought I would check if you had particular knowledge about it | 07:31 |
| ddaa | so your actual problem is what, running a test suite? | 07:31 |
| ddaa | I guess you're not really interested in cscvs at this point. | 07:32 |
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| ddaa | statik: the only way I can suggest working around it is by not use he upstream bindings. | 07:33 |
| ddaa | I and do have work in the pipe to do exactly this, but it got stalled by more urgent things. | 07:33 |
| ddaa | s/not use he/not using the/ | 07:33 |
| statik | ddaa: ok, understood. yeah, my problem is that when I run test.py, the python interpreter crashes | 07:33 |
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| statik | jamesh narrowed it down in the bug report, its a crash when libsvn.wc is imported | 07:34 |
| statik | I can just run python2.4, and type "import libsvn.wc", and it crashes | 07:34 |
| ddaa | I'm curious about which bits actually need to import this when do you test.py | 07:35 |
| ddaa | got it... | 07:35 |
| ddaa | mh no... | 07:35 |
| ddaa | ha yes, must be the import fascist | 07:36 |
| ddaa | maybe if you tell the import fascist to ignore lib/importd/tests and the stuff below it | 07:37 |
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| ddaa | there does not appear to be anything in the actual launchpad test suite that needs cscvs | 07:38 |
| ddaa | and the importd test suite is still using a separate test runner for historical reasons | 07:38 |
| statik | ddaa rescues me again | 07:38 |
| ddaa | you could also just remove lib/importd/tests/test_svnstrategy.py from your tree and patch its __init__.py to not import it | 07:38 |
| ddaa | but please do not land it... | 07:39 |
| ddaa | another option, you could do all my other work so I can focus of getting rid of upstream python bindings :) | 07:39 |
| statik | ddaa: :) | 07:39 |
| statik | any idea how I can tell import fascist to ignore this path? | 07:39 |
| ddaa | none | 07:40 |
| statik | fair enough. last question: who should that bug be assigned to? is that a contact upstream thing? | 07:40 |
| statik | ddaa: and thanks very much for the help and suggestions, as always | 07:41 |
| ddaa | statik: well, there's only an ubuntu bug so far | 07:41 |
| ddaa | it should be assigned to whoever is in charge of maintaining this ubuntu package | 07:41 |
| ddaa | for upstream, I guess you'd have to file the bug on their own bugtracker and create an upstream bugwatch. | 07:42 |
| ddaa | on second thought, i'm not sure that the importfascist trick will do it, but it's worth exploring | 07:45 |
| ddaa | there might be other places that indirectly end up importing the svn bindings | 07:45 |
| SteveA | statik: I can answer questions about the fascist | 07:46 |
| SteveA | statik: but after I get back from food shopping | 07:47 |
| statik | SteveA: I've just been talking about this python-subversion crash on AMD64 with ddaa, and wondering whether it is possible to tell the fascist to ignore a particular module | 07:47 |
| statik | statik: ok, enjoy your shopping! this is not so important at the moment, I just happened to remember about it | 07:48 |
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| ddaa | statik: I guess if you hack cscvs into not importing the upstream bindings, it might work too | 07:51 |
| ddaa | it would be horribly broken, but that should not matter to you | 07:51 |
| ddaa | and then you need not touch launchpad at all | 07:52 |
| ddaa | so, hunt for things that "import svn" and "import from svn" | 07:52 |
| ddaa | s/import from svn/from svn import/ | 07:53 |
| ddaa | actually, just "from svn" | 07:53 |
| statik | ddaa: grep -R --include=*.py 'import svn' . | wc -l gives me 81 imports | 07:53 |
| statik | I'm going to take a quick look at the crash under GDB to see if there is anything obvious, and then just switch to running tests on the laptop | 07:54 |
| mdke | carlos: ok, thanks. any progress on kubuntu-docs? | 07:57 |
| carlos | mdke: it's next in my queue | 07:57 |
| carlos | mdke: is ubuntu-doc as it should? | 07:58 |
| carlos | mdke: btw, did you manage to prepare the .po files? | 07:58 |
| mdke | carlos: not yet. ubuntu-docs templates look great | 07:59 |
| carlos | ok | 07:59 |
| ddaa | statik: there's probably a lot of noise in this stat | 07:59 |
| ddaa | because it matches "svn_oo" as well | 07:59 |
| mdke | carlos: thanks for that | 07:59 |
| carlos | mdke: don't worry, Sorry for being a bit late with it | 07:59 |
| carlos | mdke: I didn't thought you changed so much the templates | 08:00 |
| mdke | np | 08:00 |
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| sabdfl | kiko-afk: date_created is in the db, not in the content class | 09:25 |
| sabdfl | stub did a round of adding them to the db in lots of places, but not to the db classes | 09:25 |
| kiko-afk | sabdfl, I'll add it in | 09:25 |
| sabdfl | also, we need the registrant everywhere, too | 09:25 |
| kiko-afk | sabdfl, in DistroRelease I can see date_created. | 09:26 |
| kiko-afk | and I added one to Distribution this week which was missing | 09:26 |
| kiko-afk | anyway, physiotherapy and I'm late bbiab | 09:26 |
| sabdfl | it might have been distribution i noticed didn't have it | 09:30 |
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| Cypherix | I wanted to ask a question if possible to the admins, I want to mirror Kubuntu on my servers, I have unlimited bandwidth and a 100Mbit line, who should I contact? | 10:06 |
| salgado | Cypherix, either Znarl or send an email to mirrors@ubuntu.com | 10:08 |
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| LaserJock | kiko: I've got a question | 11:54 |
| kiko | I may have an answer. | 11:56 |
| LaserJock | sometimes in LP there are bugs that kind of attempt to all fix one issue | 11:58 |
| LaserJock | we were just looking at bug #90846 bug #55795 and bug #48735 | 11:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 90846 in soyuz "Please include the complete changelog on the <srcpkg>/+changelog page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90846 | 11:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55795 in soyuz "+changelog includes misleading information related to package versions and authors" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55795 | 11:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 48735 in soyuz "changelog histories for packages are not viewable/searchable" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48735 | 11:59 |
| LarstiQ | ah, 55795 | 12:00 |
| kiko | okay so far. | 12:01 |
| kiko | they are related, yes | 12:01 |
| LaserJock | so is there anyway to kind of keep track of them? | 12:02 |
| LaserJock | I guess they aren't really true dups or anything | 12:02 |
| LaserJock | I just find a fair amount of kinda vague and related bugs when it comes to LP | 12:02 |
| LaserJock | do you guys ever use like an umbrella bug that references several related bugs | 12:03 |
| LaserJock | ok, well maybe I'm not even making sense :-) | 12:04 |
| kiko | we don't have tracker bugs, no | 12:05 |
| kiko | we could use tags to group | 12:05 |
| kiko | but only 3 bugs? easier to search | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | ok, I just wondered if you guys found it difficult sometimes and had some nifty solution | 12:05 |
| kiko | not really. related bugs would be a cool feature though. | 12:06 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 12:06 |
| LaserJock | for occasions when a tag is overkill | 12:06 |
| LaserJock | but kinda ties related bugs together | 12:07 |
| kiko | yeppers. | 12:07 |
| kiko | in particular when fixing one bug will solve another | 12:07 |
| kiko | or fixing one bug will uncover another issue | 12:08 |
| LaserJock | yes | 12:08 |
| Fujitsu | I'd like to see such a feature. | 12:08 |
| Fujitsu | Sort of like specs blocking things, but not. | 12:08 |
| ddaa | kiko: ++ | 12:08 |
| ddaa | I actually often put "Related to bug 1234 and bug 4567" in bug summaries. | 12:09 |
| Ubugtu | Bug 1234 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 is private | 12:09 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 4567 in eclipse "Eclipse won't start on ubuntu dapper (amd64) (dup-of: 3074)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4567 - Assigned to Matthias Klose (doko) | 12:09 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 3074 in eclipse "Eclipse fails to boot" [Medium,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3074 | 12:09 |
| Fujitsu | Especially useful for sync requests, which often fix several reported bugs, but they have to be tracked manually. | 12:09 |
| ddaa | but keeping the links in sync is a pain. | 12:09 |
| LarstiQ | 'ref bug #' is kinda nice in trac | 12:09 |
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| ddaa | not sure what would be the best way to solve through... | 12:10 |
| ddaa | either bidirectional links or N-directional groups... | 12:10 |
| ddaa | the latter would probably be hard to handle in the UI. | 12:10 |
| kiko | the former sounds more practical yeah | 12:11 |
| ddaa | but please, do not put more semantic in that... | 12:11 |
| ddaa | just a simple annotation that creates links on two bugs, no lifecycle, no status update, etc. | 12:12 |
| ddaa | "related to" is just a handwavy way to help navigation. | 12:12 |
| LaserJock | yes | 12:13 |
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