| nixternal | Laser_away: ubuntu-docs package doesn't install a .desktop file, so that is coming from somewhere else. | 12:44 |
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| nixternal | But that doesn't matter, just tell me where this .desktop file is supposed to go and that is all I need to know, what dir is it going into | 12:44 |
| dsas | nixternal: it's installed by gnome-panel if you're talking about about-ubuntu.desktop | 12:51 |
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| dsas | but I guess edubuntu-docs is the correct place for the edubuntu one, as long as gnome-panel is patched to look for it | 12:54 |
| dsas | ubuntu-docs is probably the right package to install the about-ubuntu.desktop too really... | 12:54 |
| LaserJock | dsas: yeah | 12:58 |
| LaserJock | gnome-panels is what sets up the menu | 12:58 |
| LaserJock | so it kinda makes some sense to put it in gnome-panels-data | 12:58 |
| LaserJock | but we need to keep things a bit tighter | 12:58 |
| dsas | who do I have to bug to get revert rights on h.u.c ? | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | revert? | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | probably mdke or Burgundivia | 01:28 |
| dsas | I want to revert a wikipage from rev 46 to 44 | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | are you a member of the wiki team? | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | I honestly don't know how the ACLs on h.u.c are set | 01:29 |
| dsas | LaserJock: I'll try that. | 01:29 |
| dsas | bah, moderated team. | 01:30 |
| dsas | if someone who does have rights could revert https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200?action=info to revision 44 I'd be greatful :) | 01:31 |
| dsas | I could do it manually I guess. | 01:31 |
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| bimberi | dsas: I can do it (although by the looks of the comments I'm too late) | 02:16 |
| dsas | yeah, thanks for the offer anyway bimberi, I just did things the "manual" way | 02:17 |
| bimberi | Righto. | 02:18 |
| bimberi | dsas, LaserJock: delete/rename/revert rights on h.u.c/c are assigned by someone with administrative access to Moin. mdke has it (iirc). Not sure who else. | 02:23 |
| bimberi | it's intended that it be linked to membership of the LP wiki team but I'm fairly sure it's not been implemented. | 02:24 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | There used to be a wiki page detailling how to port ubuntu to a new platform. does anyone know what happened to it? i'v been sewarching for about 30 min and cant see a sign of it | 05:52 |
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| mdke | morning | 08:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi | 08:53 |
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| CIA-5 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3985 / (26 files in 20 dirs): | 09:24 |
| CIA-5 | Ubuntu Documentation: * large string changes to windows.xml, as discussed on mailing list | 09:24 |
| CIA-5 | Ubuntu Documentation: * refreshing pot templates | 09:24 |
| Madpilot | spambot | 09:25 |
| Madpilot | ;) | 09:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | when did -docs grow another bot? | 09:26 |
| Madpilot | fairly recently | 09:26 |
| mdke | it took many months to add it but we've been looking for it for ages | 09:26 |
| mdke | it's pretty cool! | 09:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hehe. i only just saw one in another chanel... i feel like i'm being stalked by CIA-* bots ;) | 09:27 |
| Madpilot | of course the CIA is watching you. We're all Communist penguin-lovin' Open Source freaks, right? | 09:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | s/O*/Free/g | 09:31 |
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| XiXaQ | should this page really be on help.ubuntu.com? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VHCS | 07:57 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: got a sec? | 07:58 |
| mdke | XiXaQ: well, the subject matter looks right. It's pretty ugly though | 08:00 |
| XiXaQ | I think it should be on the wiki instead. | 08:02 |
| LaserJock | why? | 08:03 |
| XiXaQ | because it doesn't explain anything, and it sais it's a work in progress. | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | so? | 08:05 |
| Burgwork | XiXaQ: feel free to edit it | 08:06 |
| Burgwork | in progress is from may of last year | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | help.u.c vs wiki.u.c is help documentation vs developer documentation not good doc vs. bad doc | 08:06 |
| XiXaQ | oh | 08:07 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: yo yo | 09:06 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: sorry, was picking up my car from the shop | 10:26 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: did you have a chance to look at the About Edubuntu stuff? | 10:26 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: I just need to know where to place that .desktop file. telling me gnome-panel doesn't help | 10:32 |
| nixternal | need the absolute directory | 10:32 |
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| dsas | could someone revert RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs to revision 18 or so? | 10:32 |
| nixternal | I can't do anything on h.u.c/community | 10:33 |
| nixternal | I can edit a page and that is it | 10:33 |
| dsas | can anyone? :( | 10:33 |
| nixternal | rediculous the way it is setup | 10:33 |
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| dsas | someone removed the post-dapper instructions for reading dvds anyway. | 10:33 |
| nixternal | call it community documentation yet it is restricted | 10:33 |
| dsas | oh hang on. | 10:36 |
| dsas | i'm losing my mind. | 10:36 |
| nixternal | heh | 10:36 |
| dsas | do you need libdvdread3 *and* libdvdcss2 ? | 10:36 |
| nixternal | dsas: I don't think so, but I am not 100% positive | 10:37 |
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| nixternal | hehe | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | well there are a few issues with the wiki stuff | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | the problem is that right now it's sort of "all or nothing" | 10:39 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: I need a MOTU mentor! I am going for MOTU this next build cycle no matter what! | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | so people who can delete, etc. have virtually complete admin rights to the wiki | 10:40 |
| nixternal | I can't do anything but edit | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | right | 10:40 |
| nixternal | which defeats the purpose, but who am I? | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | the plan is to let all wiki team members have delete/rename, etc. rights | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | it's not designed that way | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | it's a bug | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | one that is not easy to fix apparently | 10:41 |
| nixternal | ya, for about 6 months now | 10:41 |
| nixternal | hehe | 10:41 |
| nixternal | you beat me to the punch on that one | 10:41 |
| nixternal | we need to update moin as well or switch to mediawiki | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | yes that's another item | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | it's all Canonical so it's a bit tough | 10:42 |
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| LaserJock | well, there used to be problems | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | we couldn't easily upgrade moin | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure if it was because ubuntu.com was running moin or not | 10:43 |
| nixternal | MoinMoin is a pain to admin, I will give them that | 10:43 |
| nixternal | we use it at school and recently did an upgrade to the latest version | 10:43 |
| nixternal | it wasn't fun, but it wasn't that crazy | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | we might be able to do better now | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | but it still means getting sysadmins to do it | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | we've wanted to upgrade for over a year now | 10:44 |
| dsas | haven't they upped their sysadmin power over the last few months though? I think there's 3 of them now... | 10:44 |
| nixternal | ya, and towards the end of a build cycle isn't the best time for them either I am sure | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | and Corey keeps wanting to move to mediawiki ;-) | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | dsas: yes | 10:44 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: sabdfl wants to move to mediawiki | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | which is funny | 10:45 |
| nixternal | he stated it in a blog post about 6 months back | 10:45 |
| LaserJock | since the reason we went with Moin was because they wouldn't let PHP on the Canonical servers | 10:45 |
| LaserJock | we've got so much data, it's not easy to just up and migrate | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | we'll probably have to discuss it for Feisty+1 | 10:46 |
| nixternal | and feisty+2, feisty+3, and so on... ;p | 10:47 |
| LaserJock | nah | 10:47 |
| LaserJock | one of the reasons we stayed with Moin is because it was better for developer work, I think | 10:48 |
| LaserJock | now that we have help.u.c we can separate the 2 | 10:48 |
| LaserJock | but then we put quite some effort into moin->docbook | 10:49 |
| LaserJock | I really like moin for personal use (Desktop Moin) | 10:49 |
| nixternal | really? | 10:49 |
| dsas | and there's possibly the launchpad -> Moin integration | 10:49 |
| nixternal | I was thinking about using it | 10:49 |
| LaserJock | for personal use it's great because you just drop it in and go | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | no MySQL or Apache or anything | 10:50 |
| dsas | dvd page is fixed I think. | 10:50 |
| dsas | doesn't kde have a equivalent to tomboy? | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | basket | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | perhaps | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | I think that's how it's spelled | 10:50 |
| nixternal | basket is correct, but far from equivalent to tomboy | 10:51 |
| nixternal | basket is way more involved and complicated. you can do so much with it, but hell it is nuts | 10:51 |
| LaserJock | I so wish I could get tomboy for OS X | 10:51 |
| dsas | sounds like kde </troll> | 10:51 |
| nixternal | I like tomboy because 1) super easy, and 2) wiki effect | 10:51 |
| dsas | I still use a scattering of text files and paper notes. | 10:52 |
| nixternal | hrmm, actually I have looked at tomboy and noticed it is a fairly straight forward and easily coded app, wonder how difficult it is to port from gtK to Qt | 10:52 |
| dsas | nixternal: does qt have mono bindings? | 10:52 |
| Burgwork | nixternal: use basket | 10:53 |
| nixternal | dsas: yes | 10:53 |
| dsas | cool, didn't know that | 10:53 |
| nixternal | Burgwork: basket is more than what I need | 10:53 |
| Burgwork | KDE is more than I need | 10:53 |
| nixternal | more than what many people need | 10:53 |
| Burgwork | indeed, why I use GNOME :) | 10:54 |
| nixternal | sorry, been 10 years with KDE. I won't go anywhere else :) | 10:54 |
| nixternal | I would rather use Vista :) | 10:54 |
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| dsas | ouch. | 10:55 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinX | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | yep | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | I used it a fair bit | 10:56 |
| LaserJock | works very well | 10:56 |
| nixternal | ahh, I just brain farted | 10:56 |
| LaserJock | but not quite as light as tomboy | 10:56 |
| nixternal | you said tomboy for mac, not moin | 10:56 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 10:56 |
| LaserJock | although it's sorta similar | 10:56 |
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