[12:44] Laser_away: ubuntu-docs package doesn't install a .desktop file, so that is coming from somewhere else. [12:44] But that doesn't matter, just tell me where this .desktop file is supposed to go and that is all I need to know, what dir is it going into [12:51] nixternal: it's installed by gnome-panel if you're talking about about-ubuntu.desktop === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:54] but I guess edubuntu-docs is the correct place for the edubuntu one, as long as gnome-panel is patched to look for it [12:54] ubuntu-docs is probably the right package to install the about-ubuntu.desktop too really... [12:58] dsas: yeah [12:58] gnome-panels is what sets up the menu [12:58] so it kinda makes some sense to put it in gnome-panels-data [12:58] but we need to keep things a bit tighter [01:28] who do I have to bug to get revert rights on h.u.c ? [01:28] revert? [01:28] probably mdke or Burgundivia [01:28] I want to revert a wikipage from rev 46 to 44 [01:28] are you a member of the wiki team? [01:29] I honestly don't know how the ACLs on h.u.c are set [01:29] LaserJock: I'll try that. [01:30] bah, moderated team. [01:31] if someone who does have rights could revert https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200?action=info to revision 44 I'd be greatful :) [01:31] I could do it manually I guess. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:16] dsas: I can do it (although by the looks of the comments I'm too late) [02:17] yeah, thanks for the offer anyway bimberi, I just did things the "manual" way [02:18] Righto. [02:23] dsas, LaserJock: delete/rename/revert rights on h.u.c/c are assigned by someone with administrative access to Moin. mdke has it (iirc). Not sure who else. [02:24] it's intended that it be linked to membership of the LP wiki team but I'm fairly sure it's not been implemented. === Burgwork [n=corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bodhizazen [n=bodhizaz@host-69-144-246-69.hln-mt.client.bresnan.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jubu [n=jbusam@60.242.113.21] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jubu [n=jbusam@60.242.113.21] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Ex-Chat"] === bodhizazen [n=bodhizaz@host-69-144-246-69.hln-mt.client.bresnan.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:52] There used to be a wiki page detailling how to port ubuntu to a new platform. does anyone know what happened to it? i'v been sewarching for about 30 min and cant see a sign of it === Admiral_Chicago [n=Admiral_@adsl-68-255-99-163.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan_ [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === n1c0las [n=nicolas@nicolas.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-133-166.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:52] morning [08:53] hi === AndrewB [n=andy@tuxhacker/pdpc.supporter.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-197-231.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:24] Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3985 / (26 files in 20 dirs): [09:24] Ubuntu Documentation: * large string changes to windows.xml, as discussed on mailing list [09:24] Ubuntu Documentation: * refreshing pot templates [09:25] spambot [09:25] ;) [09:26] when did -docs grow another bot? [09:26] fairly recently [09:26] it took many months to add it but we've been looking for it for ages [09:26] it's pretty cool! [09:27] hehe. i only just saw one in another chanel... i feel like i'm being stalked by CIA-* bots ;) [09:29] of course the CIA is watching you. We're all Communist penguin-lovin' Open Source freaks, right? [09:31] s/O*/Free/g === mdke nods === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC9FFD41.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@bohr.gbar.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda` [n=jenda@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda` [n=jenda@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda` [n=jenda@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda` [n=jenda@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda` [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === [hawk] [n=hawk@host228-69.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === [hawk] [n=hawk@host228-69.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation] === bodhi_zazen [n=bodhizaz@stpete.helmednet.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-117.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === effie_jayx [i=c9eae5f1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-b9b8edea8b05fc2e] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@24.68.237.193] has joined #ubuntu-doc === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-173-95.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@24.68.237.193] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TheVeech [n=jase@82-37-38-146.cable.ubr01.brom.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@212-139-78-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === XiXaQ [n=joerlend@237-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc [07:57] should this page really be on help.ubuntu.com? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VHCS [07:58] nixternal: got a sec? [08:00] XiXaQ: well, the subject matter looks right. It's pretty ugly though [08:02] I think it should be on the wiki instead. [08:03] why? [08:05] because it doesn't explain anything, and it sais it's a work in progress. [08:05] so? [08:06] XiXaQ: feel free to edit it [08:06] in progress is from may of last year [08:06] help.u.c vs wiki.u.c is help documentation vs developer documentation not good doc vs. bad doc [08:07] oh === XiXaQ [n=joerlend@237-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc [09:06] LaserJock: yo yo === jenda_ [n=jenda@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda_ [n=jenda@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda_ [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === judax [n=judax@adsl-67-67-197-238.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:26] nixternal: sorry, was picking up my car from the shop [10:26] nixternal: did you have a chance to look at the About Edubuntu stuff? === Burgundavia [n=corey@24.68.237.193] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:32] LaserJock: I just need to know where to place that .desktop file. telling me gnome-panel doesn't help [10:32] need the absolute directory === judax [n=judax@adsl-68-90-189-195.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:32] could someone revert RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs to revision 18 or so? [10:33] I can't do anything on h.u.c/community [10:33] I can edit a page and that is it [10:33] can anyone? :( [10:33] rediculous the way it is setup === dsas wonders why it's locked down so tight [10:33] someone removed the post-dapper instructions for reading dvds anyway. [10:33] call it community documentation yet it is restricted [10:36] oh hang on. [10:36] i'm losing my mind. [10:36] heh [10:36] do you need libdvdread3 *and* libdvdcss2 ? [10:37] dsas: I don't think so, but I am not 100% positive === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas shouldn't assume things [10:38] hehe [10:39] well there are a few issues with the wiki stuff [10:39] the problem is that right now it's sort of "all or nothing" [10:39] LaserJock: I need a MOTU mentor! I am going for MOTU this next build cycle no matter what! [10:40] so people who can delete, etc. have virtually complete admin rights to the wiki [10:40] I can't do anything but edit [10:40] right [10:40] which defeats the purpose, but who am I? [10:40] the plan is to let all wiki team members have delete/rename, etc. rights [10:40] it's not designed that way [10:40] it's a bug [10:41] one that is not easy to fix apparently [10:41] ya, for about 6 months now [10:41] hehe [10:41] you beat me to the punch on that one [10:41] we need to update moin as well or switch to mediawiki [10:41] yes that's another item [10:42] it's all Canonical so it's a bit tough === nixternal leaves that one alone === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:43] well, there used to be problems [10:43] we couldn't easily upgrade moin [10:43] I'm not sure if it was because ubuntu.com was running moin or not [10:43] MoinMoin is a pain to admin, I will give them that [10:43] we use it at school and recently did an upgrade to the latest version [10:43] it wasn't fun, but it wasn't that crazy [10:44] we might be able to do better now [10:44] but it still means getting sysadmins to do it [10:44] we've wanted to upgrade for over a year now [10:44] haven't they upped their sysadmin power over the last few months though? I think there's 3 of them now... [10:44] ya, and towards the end of a build cycle isn't the best time for them either I am sure [10:44] and Corey keeps wanting to move to mediawiki ;-) [10:44] dsas: yes [10:44] LaserJock: sabdfl wants to move to mediawiki [10:45] which is funny [10:45] he stated it in a blog post about 6 months back [10:45] since the reason we went with Moin was because they wouldn't let PHP on the Canonical servers [10:46] we've got so much data, it's not easy to just up and migrate [10:46] we'll probably have to discuss it for Feisty+1 [10:47] and feisty+2, feisty+3, and so on... ;p [10:47] nah [10:48] one of the reasons we stayed with Moin is because it was better for developer work, I think [10:48] now that we have help.u.c we can separate the 2 [10:49] but then we put quite some effort into moin->docbook [10:49] I really like moin for personal use (Desktop Moin) [10:49] really? [10:49] and there's possibly the launchpad -> Moin integration [10:49] I was thinking about using it [10:50] for personal use it's great because you just drop it in and go [10:50] no MySQL or Apache or anything [10:50] dvd page is fixed I think. [10:50] doesn't kde have a equivalent to tomboy? [10:50] basket [10:50] perhaps [10:50] I think that's how it's spelled [10:51] basket is correct, but far from equivalent to tomboy [10:51] basket is way more involved and complicated. you can do so much with it, but hell it is nuts [10:51] I so wish I could get tomboy for OS X [10:51] sounds like kde [10:51] I like tomboy because 1) super easy, and 2) wiki effect [10:52] I still use a scattering of text files and paper notes. [10:52] hrmm, actually I have looked at tomboy and noticed it is a fairly straight forward and easily coded app, wonder how difficult it is to port from gtK to Qt [10:52] nixternal: does qt have mono bindings? [10:53] nixternal: use basket [10:53] dsas: yes [10:53] cool, didn't know that [10:53] Burgwork: basket is more than what I need [10:53] KDE is more than I need [10:53] more than what many people need [10:54] indeed, why I use GNOME :) [10:54] sorry, been 10 years with KDE. I won't go anywhere else :) [10:54] I would rather use Vista :) === judax_ [n=judax@adsl-70-135-90-237.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:55] ouch. [10:55] LaserJock: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinX [10:55] yep [10:56] I used it a fair bit [10:56] works very well [10:56] ahh, I just brain farted [10:56] but not quite as light as tomboy [10:56] you said tomboy for mac, not moin [10:56] yeah [10:56] although it's sorta similar === Jisao [n=etchian@1meg-mtl-adsl219.securenet.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-43.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === merriam_ [n=merriam@84-12-81-29.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc