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mjg59crimsun: Are there still patches from you pending?04:35
mjg59Still no MBP audio love for me04:35
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neuralismjg59: by the way, is "ec kills touchpad after resume" a known bug for hp's latest laptop series, including the nc4400 and at least one of the nxes, and if not, do you need bugs filed and information provided?06:28
fabbionehey Ivan06:30
lifelesshola neuralis 06:30
neuralishey folks! long time no see06:30
neuralisfabbione: how's the little dude?06:31
fabbioneneuralis: you mean that fat-o-saurus rex? he is good :)06:31
neuralislifeless: don't know if you heard yet; we're currently using bzr as the vcs we ship and integrate with the laptop's built-in IDE06:31
neuralisfabbione: haha.. fatosaurus rex is a good name06:31
lifelessneuralis: yes, I think thats fantastic06:31
fabbionehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/pics/chris/swimming.jpg06:32
fabbioneneuralis: ^^06:32
lifelessneuralis: we just got a 100% performance boost for you for 0.1506:32
lifeless(for local ops)06:32
neuralisfabbione: he has that scary look of a kernel hacker :)06:33
neuralislifeless: nice! we'll have to pull that in.06:33
fabbioneneuralis: ahahha06:33
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neuralislifeless: we're still trying to figure out how to reconcile the "we keep everything in git, but we want to ship bzr" asymmetry, but hopefully we can work something out there. input appreciated, certainly.06:34
lifelessneuralis: well, you could convert to bzr :)06:34
lifelessneuralis: more seriously, I'd be happy to provide guidance on finishing the git foreign branch plugin for bzr, so you could just do 'bzr pull' to pull your git branch into bzr06:35
neuralisthat sounds reasonable. we can't go all-bzr since we deal with kernel trees and maintaining two vcses seems suboptimal. presumably with the git fb plugin, we could automate maintenance of a bzr mirror for all our git trees?06:36
lifelessyup06:37
lifelessI dont have time to finish it myself at the moment unfortunately.06:38
neuralisworry not, i have summer interns.06:39
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lifelesslp.net/bzr-git06:40
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fabbioneBenC: ping?07:17
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TheMusoc09:19
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MithrandirBenC: please make sure to grab my building fix to linux-backports-modules and not just blindingly blast over it like you did on this last upload (causing it to fail to build..)09:37
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tumbleweedhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/6582710:32
tumbleweedwe've hit this with a lab of 50 ubuntu PCs10:32
tumbleweedcan someone please look into it.10:32
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crimsunmjg59: yes, to differentiate between 1st- and 2nd-gen macbook pros10:57
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fabbionepkl_: ping?01:10
pkl_fabbione: pong01:17
fabbionepkl_: hey dude.. are you busy? otherwise i would like to steal 10 minutes of your time01:17
pkl_nope, never busy :)01:17
fabbioneehhehe01:18
BenCMithrandir: I had no idea it failed, or that you had fixed it01:20
MithrandirBenC: it ended up in depwait since you uploaded with ancient debian/control; doesn't kernel-team get upload notifications for uploads of those packages?01:22
BenCMithrandir: I've no idea01:23
BenCdebian/control probably isn't being rebuilt when the clean target is run01:23
Mithrandirit's not, no01:23
BenCMithrandir: is it going to be a problem if a kernel I upload today bumps ABI?01:25
BenCit really needs to be there for beta01:25
kylemBenC, can you revert my libata-hpa patch for now?01:26
MithrandirBenC: if it's needed, it's needed.  I'm not happy about it, but rather now than later.01:26
kylemapparently it's the cause of the macbook failing to boot.01:26
kylemthough i haven't the foggiest idea why01:27
BenCkylem: don't you have a macbook?01:27
BenCkylem: Are you sure it's not caused by the piix problem?01:27
kylemBenC, no... mjg59 said blacklisting piix didn't help01:27
BenCMithrandir: thanks, I'll get it up as soon as possible01:28
fabbionehey BenC 01:28
fabbioneBenC: queued one more change for you01:28
fabbioneit's in the usual repo on people01:28
BenCfabbione: Thanks01:28
fabbioneBenC: when i re-enabled ocfs2/gfs* in the generic kernels i forgot to add Provides: rhcs-modules...01:28
fabbioneBenC: this makes the cluster suite installable on any of our kernels01:29
BenCkylem: Do you have a commit sha I can revert?01:29
kylema0e61542121a0519bfbe9f6e43980ec96a16156e01:31
kylemshould revert cleanly01:31
dade`re01:32
dade`I filled a bug, with a mistake on the title I don't feel proud of01:33
kylemmight want to revert upstream:8ce5e3e45e01ffab38a9f03900181132b9068543 too if you haven't already (the watchdog thing someone complained about yesterday.)01:33
dade`is there anything I can do ?01:33
fabbionedade`: edit the description01:33
dade`hm01:33
dade`done, thx01:35
dade`I thought it was not possible01:35
BenCkylem: So we want to enable NMI by default again?01:36
kylemno.01:37
kylem"    Disable NMI watchdog by default properly01:37
kylem    This reverts commit 6ebf622b2577c50b1f496bd6a5e8739e55ae7b1c and01:37
kylem    replaces it with one that actually works.01:37
kylem"01:37
kylemfrom linus01:37
BenCShould we revert 6ebf622b2577c50b1f496bd6a5e8739e55ae7b1c then? :)01:38
kylemoh. er.01:38
kylemdon't revert, cherry-pick01:38
kylemsorry, early morning and such. :)01:38
BenCah, makes much more sense now :)01:39
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BenCgit-diff-tree wasn't telling me that wasn't in my HEAD01:39
mjg59crimsun: Ok - let me know when it should work and I'll letyou know if it does :)01:39
BenCkylem, mjg59: BTW, I cherry-picked ide-acpi from upstream last night01:40
mjg59BenC: That's only for drivers/ata01:40
mjg59Uh.01:40
mjg59drivers/ide01:40
mjg59I need to port it to libata01:40
BenCright, is there one for drivers/ata too?01:40
mjg59Not yet. I need to write it.01:42
BenCmjg59: Don't suppose it will be done in 1 hour? :)01:44
BenCmjg59: After this upload, We're probably doing only one more after beta, just before RC01:45
dade`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_inhibition01:45
dade`sould be perfect english01:45
dade`right ?01:45
dade`should :P01:45
mjg59BenC: No chance01:47
BenCmjg59: Ok, guess it will wait for RC. Do you have any idea what bugs, if any, would be caused by not have libata-acpi?01:49
mrecBenC: the disk problem was a false alarm, it works well.01:52
BenCmrec: Good to hear, thanks01:52
mrecnot sure if you're still interested in the em28xx driver, people are testing the latest version now01:53
mjg59Failure to resume on various machines01:53
BenCmjg59: ugh, sounds like 5% of our bug reports :/01:54
mrecBenC: are you still willing to include it in upcoming versions?01:55
BenCmrec: I have one kernel upload today for next weeks beta, and one (unless something horrible happens) after that for RC, and hopefully release, so it looks like it wont make it for feisty01:55
mrecok01:55
BenCmrec: Unless you can give me a quick patch to drop into the ubuntu-2.6 tree01:56
mrecBenC: the patch needs some more testing, it has around 8500 lines now01:56
mrecand it affects parts of the dvb-core framework, so it touches quite alot01:56
BenCmrec: Ah, definitely no chance then01:57
mrecyes, it's better to keep it out for now01:57
mrecis there any schedule for the next version?01:59
BenCmrec: If you find the feisty release schedule, basically you can take that and adjust it 6 months out for the next release (no guarantee, but it's close)02:00
BenCwe'll most likely be 2.6.22 based, but no guarantee there either02:01
mrecBenC: do you directly compile any v4l/dvb support into the kernel or just as modules?02:01
BenCmrec: All modules02:02
mrecmaybe a solution would be to provide deb packages02:02
mrecmodules would be fine02:02
BenCmrec: Yeah, that sounds like a good idea02:20
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BenCmjg59: Any comments about this patch: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=9254&action=view02:25
BenCwait wait, I already have that one02:26
BenC*sigh*02:26
BenCguess I can leave the other one out, doesn't seem to be needed02:26
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BenCmjg59: FYI, I already had libata-acpi in our tree, but I'm syncing with the one in upstream now to make sure we have all the features04:22
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bluffer_i need some instructions to get a network card driver can some one point me what would i need 04:49
bluffer_compile a network card sources04:50
bluffer_i installed dapper drake 6.06.01 from alternate cd04:50
bluffer_this does not detect my network card which is 3c905c-tx from 3com04:52
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BenCbluffer_: That card should be detected05:18
bluffer_thanks benc for replying but no it is not detected (neither in edgy nor in drapper)05:19
BenCbluffer_: what's the vendor/device ID of the card (as shown in lspci)?05:19
bluffer_i m telling this from windows device manager ( i havent booted dapper vm yet)05:21
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bluffer_3com 3c920 integrated fast ethernet controller 3c905c-tx compatible)05:22
bluffer_i would try to compilesome of these sources if i can http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linuxdownload.htm05:24
bluffer_or hold on ill boot the vm now 05:25
BenCbluffer_: I'd need to know the PCI vendor/device ID's to help you any05:26
BenCI'm more interested in finding out why it's not working with edgy/dapper05:26
BenCbecause it definitely should05:26
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bluffer_ok no problem im booting the dapper vm05:26
bluffer_i had lots of problem installing this distro (edgy live cd never went farther than the splash screen kernel panic edgy alternate went all the way till grub install and failed to install either grub or lilo dapper alternate installed only text mode (no x ) some fine people at ubuntu ardchoille especially helped me install ubuntu-desktop)05:29
bluffer_from commandline 05:29
bluffer_and all these distros never detected my ethernet card05:29
bluffer_i always said them to continue without network 05:30
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bluffer_now ihave a working installation im trying to find how i could get network on it 05:30
bluffer_ok vm is on ( open a terminal and did a lspci this is the output05:38
bluffer_bluffer@ubuntu:~$ lspci05:41
bluffer_0000:00:00.0 Host bridge INtel corporation 440BX/ZX/DX -82443bx/zx/dx host bridge (agp disabled) (rev 03)05:41
bluffer_0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge intel corporation 82371ab/eb/mb05:42
bluffer_pIIx4 ISA (rev 01)05:42
bluffer_ im typing it to as i see so its late to paste all info there are five more lines05:43
kylemjust type the 3com line05:44
bluffer_0000:00:07.1 IDE interface Intel corporation 82371ab/eb/mb PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)05:44
bluffer_there is no 3 com line05:44
bluffer_there is an ethernet controller line shall i type it ? first05:45
bluffer_0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation Decchip21140 [fasternet]  rev 20)05:46
bluffer_this is the ethernet controller line05:46
kylemthat's a tulip.05:47
bluffer_hold on ill image shack this screen05:47
BenCbluffer_: Get another one of the "lspci -n" output so we can see the numeric ids05:47
bdmurraysorry to interrupt but before I forget you might want to check out bug 9279205:48
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BenCbdmurray: crappy...guess I'll revert rt61 and others back to rt2x00-legacy05:50
BenCbdmurray: thanks for the heads up05:50
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bdmurrayBenC: no problem05:51
kylemBenC, can't we ship both? :P05:51
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bluffer_sorry for the delay im on a super low memory machine (128 mb in host running a ubuntu vm with 44 mb on vpc)05:55
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emefeihi05:56
BenCkylem: I could remove the module aliases and leave it in05:58
lfittlhmm, I am currently trying KVM on AMD64, but somehow it seems to think I want a 32bit guest system, how can I change that?05:59
lfittlqemu offers qemu-system-x86_64, which works, but there is nothing like qemu-kvm-x86_6406:00
bluffer_damn image shack is too loaded :( ill upload the screen shot some where else06:02
bluffer_http://www.geocities.com/blufferisme2/lspci.PNG06:05
bluffer_here it is06:05
bluffer_you want lspci -n ok 06:05
bluffer_ill upload it too06:05
BenCbluffer_: virtual PC on your machine does us no good06:08
BenCbluffer_: We need ubuntu booted directly on that box06:08
bluffer_i see then i think ill have to live like this :(06:09
bluffer_i cant boot it from my machine coz i have just 128 mb memory live cd of edgy doesnt go farther than the spalash screen06:10
BenCbluffer_: Use alternate CD, it installs ubuntu-desktop just like the livecd06:10
BenCbluffer_: In fact, you don't need to install Ubuntu to get the lspci output we need, just boot the alternate, switch to VT2 (Alt+F2) and type the commands06:11
bluffer_i dont have a cd rom on this machine its too much trouble :(06:12
bluffer_i can provide you those details if windows provides it can you tell me or shall igoogle06:13
bluffer_or i if it of any consolation i can boot dsl (damn small linux) it detected my card without problems ?06:21
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bluffer_if this result willsatisfy you ?06:42
bluffer_http://www.unliterate.net/lspci/06:42
bluffer_its a windows exe 06:42
bluffer_dont know if it works or not :) but av says no virus so ran it andi get C:\>"Documents and Settings\deep\Desktop\lspci.exe"06:45
bluffer_PCI BIOS Call reveals that the PCI BIOS is not installed06:45
bluffer_C:\>06:45
bluffer_i downloaded belarc advisor and ran it 06:52
bluffer_the result06:52
bluffer_3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) 06:52
bluffer_ primary   IP Address:  192.168.1.51 / 24 06:52
bluffer_ Gateway:  192.168.1.254 06:52
bluffer_ Physical Address:  00:06:5B:2F:01:C5 06:52
bluffer_3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) - Virtual Machine Network Services Driver 06:52
bluffer_06:52
bluffer_Networking Dns Servers:  202.54.10.206:52
bluffer_203.197.12.42 06:52
bluffer_BenC  still wanna help ?06:53
BenCbluffer_: I need the actual numeric PCI id's for at least the device ID06:54
BenC3C920 claims to be supported by the 3c95x driver, but I can't be sure unless I see the device ID06:54
bluffer_if you dont mind can you tell me will this get you what you need ?07:03
bluffer_http://support.microsoft.com/kb/31127207:03
BenCbluffer_: probably07:04
bluffer_is this ok07:08
bluffer_PCI\VEN_10B7&DEV_9200&SUBSYS_00FE1028&REV_78\4&2DA278D3&0&60F007:08
bluffer_    Name: 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)07:08
bluffer_    Hardware ID's:07:08
bluffer_        PCI\VEN_10B7&DEV_9200&SUBSYS_00FE1028&REV_7807:08
bluffer_        PCI\VEN_10B7&DEV_9200&SUBSYS_00FE102807:08
bluffer_        PCI\VEN_10B7&DEV_9200&CC_02000007:08
bluffer_        PCI\VEN_10B7&DEV_9200&CC_020007:08
bluffer_    Compatible ID's:07:08
bluffer_        PCI\VEN_10B7&DEV_9200&REV_7807:08
bluffer_        PCI\VEN_10B7&DEV_920007:08
bluffer_        PCI\VEN_10B7&CC_02000007:08
bluffer_        PCI\VEN_10B7&CC_020007:08
bluffer_        PCI\VEN_10B707:08
bluffer_        PCI\CC_02000007:08
bluffer_        PCI\CC_020007:08
bluffer_ROOT\CNTX_VPCNETS2_MP\000007:08
bluffer_    Name: 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) - Virtual Machine Network Services Driver07:08
bluffer_    Hardware ID's:07:08
bluffer_        Cntx_VPCNetS2_MP07:08
bluffer_ROOT\MS_PSCHEDMP\000007:09
bluffer_    Name: 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) - Packet Scheduler Miniport07:09
bluffer_    Hardware ID's:07:09
bluffer_        ms_pschedmp07:09
bluffer_those are the results from devcon hwids * matching 3com07:09
bluffer_C:\Documents and Settings\deep\Desktop\devcon\i386>devcon find pci\*07:11
bluffer_PCI\VEN_10B7&DEV_9200&SUBSYS_00FE1028&REV_78\4&2DA278D3&0&60F0: 3Com 3C920 Integ07:11
bluffer_rated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)07:11
bluffer_PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2410&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&F8: Intel(r) 82801AA L07:11
bluffer_PC Interface Controller07:11
bluffer_PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2411&SUBSYS_24118086&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&F9: Intel(r) 82801AA B07:11
bluffer_us Master IDE Controller07:11
bluffer_PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2412&SUBSYS_24128086&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&FA: Intel(r) 82801AA U07:11
bluffer_SB Universal Host Controller07:11
bluffer_PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2413&SUBSYS_24138086&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&FB: Intel(r) 82801AA S07:11
bluffer_MBus Controller07:11
bluffer_PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2415&SUBSYS_01081028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&FD: Intel(r) 82801AA A07:11
bluffer_C'97 Audio Controller07:12
bluffer_PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2418&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&F0: Intel(r) 82801AA P07:12
bluffer_CI Bridge07:12
bluffer_PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7120&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&00: Intel(r) 82810 Sys07:12
bluffer_tem and Graphics Controller07:12
bluffer_PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7121&SUBSYS_01081028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&08: Intel(r) 82810 Gra07:12
bluffer_phics Controller07:12
bluffer_9 matching device(s) found.07:12
bluffer_C:\Documents and Settings\deep\Desktop\devcon\i386>07:12
bluffer_for pci07:12
bluffer_is there something usefull ?07:13
BenCbluffer_: Dude, please do not paste that into a channel07:15
BenCpastebin was created for a reason07:15
bluffer_ok ill be idling here i have to quit now ill talk to you tommorow around same time 07:16
bluffer_thanks for trying to help me out 07:16
BenCbluffer_: That device is supported by the 3c95x driver, if it doesn't work, then the driver is broken07:16
bluffer_i see so no solution for me yet isnt it ?07:18
bluffer_thanks anyway if there is some news for me ill gather it tommorow ill be idling here till then hope its ok07:20
bluffer_cyal l8r07:20
BenCbluffer_: bottom line is, if you want help with this, you need to install ubuntu07:25
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eeanmy intel audio, after upgrade to 2.6.20-11, dmesg gives hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC660VD/ALC861VD, trying auto-probe from BIOS...09:25
eeanso sound no longer wokrs09:25
eeanworks09:25
eeanwith -10 it did all work09:25
eeanthis is the snd_hda_intel module09:26
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BenCcrimsun: ^^09:38
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eeanmwell I'll submit a bug09:43
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eeanmhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/9290909:55
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crimsuneeanm: looking. Please be aware that I'm traveling this weekend and have intermittent Internet access.10:54
eeanmok10:54
crimsunRealtek, correct?10:57
crimsunPlease attach ``lspci -vvn'' to the report, though I believe I can guess.10:57
crimsuneeanm: ^^11:06
eeanmcrimsun: ok11:11
crimsunthanks.11:11
eeanmlspci -vvn | grep Real turns up nothing11:11
eeanmI'll make the attachment11:11
crimsunyou just need ``lspci -vvn''11:12
crimsunI can tell by the SSID who manufactures the codec11:12
crimsunnot to mention the dmesg bit says11:12
eeanmcrimsun: its attached11:14
eeanmafter about 4 tries on launchpad ;)11:14
crimsunthis is a fairly serious regression from -8 if it's what I think it is; likely it's completely broken upstream, too11:15
eeanmI'm pretty sure it worked in -1011:17
eeanmI can reboot and double check11:17
crimsunyeah, it's broken upstream11:17
crimsunplease do, though I'm fairly certain -10 should be broken (albeit only slightly less broken)11:18
eeanmthere were already reports about a regression in -9 from -811:18
eeanmok, brb11:18
crimsun-8 should have been the last one to actually produce "normal" audible sound11:18
eeanmhaha, maybe I have dog ears then11:19
crimsunit's using the wrong model, for starters11:19
crimsunshould definitely be using ALC861_TOSHIBA instead of ALC*6*VD*11:20
crimsunlovely, there goes my weekend11:20
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eeanmy sound works fine now11:23
eeanLinux gomashio 2.6.20-10-generic #2 SMP Mon Mar 12 00:02:49 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux11:23
crimsunok, by fine do you mean "only barely audible" or "audible with nearly the same perceptive loudness as in $another_os"?11:24
eeanas loud as in edgy yea11:24
eeansounds fine11:24
crimsunman, these Toshibas suck11:24
eeanoh, but its so cute11:25
crimsunyours "works", but half a dozen others with the same SSID break11:25
eeanlol11:25
crimsunok, can you confirm something in both -10 and -11 for me?11:25
crimsunplease modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && modprobe snd-hda-intel model=toshiba11:25
stgrabercrimsun: I've solved my problem with my Toshiba :), I've just bought an all new HP laptop :)11:25
eeanboo11:26
crimsunstgraber: (great, more troubles, *grumble* :)11:26
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stgrabercrimsun: with working snd-hda-intel on -11 :)11:26
eeanseemed like HP's had all the trouble11:26
eeancould of been their users though ;)11:26
crimsuneean: all laptops are moderately broken, some more severely than others [audio-wise] 11:26
eeanyea11:27
eeanI put off getting a laptop for a while11:27
crimsuneean: anyhow, please test the above model=toshiba under both -10 and -1111:27
eeanok11:27
crimsunyou'll need to close/kill all apps using the sound dev, certainly11:27
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eean[  461.840000]  si3054: cannot initialize. EXT MID = 000011:28
crimsunstgraber: which model?11:28
eeanlets see if audio works11:28
stgrabercrimsun: Compaq nx740011:28
eeanyea audio still works11:28
crimsuneean: ok, so that's correct, since that's what -10 defaults to. For shites and giggles, please post your current dmesg to the bug report and label it for -10, thanks.11:29
crimsunstgraber: what's the class 0403 SSID for your machine?11:30
eeancrimsun: heh um do you have its URL handy?11:31
crimsunhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/9290911:32
eeanthanks11:32
stgrabercrimsun: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403] : Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8]  (rev 01)11:32
crimsunstgraber: one line further down, please11:32
stgraber        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device [103c:30a2] 11:32
eeanok, back to my audioless computer11:33
crimsunstgraber: yep, AD1981_HP11:33
crimsunor the silly conexant equiv, which would likely be 5047 something11:34
stgraberat least it works :)11:35
=== stgraber remembers of his old laptop with a good Sound Blaster soundcard and absolutely no sound problem :)
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eeancrimsun: the model=toshiba didn't do anything11:37
eeansame errors as before on -1111:38
crimsuneean: ok, thanks, that helps.11:39
eeancool11:39
crimsuneean: I'll likely need you to test something in an hour(ish) if you're still around11:39
eeanwell I'll be around for hourish11:40
johanbrI never realized audio support was such a royal pain in the butt. I guess I've just been lucky.11:40
eeanI've never had a problem before11:40
eeannot since the Bad Old Days11:40
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crimsuneean: please also attach /proc/asound/card0/codec* contents to the bug12:00
eeanok12:05
eeancrimsun: its up there now12:06
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crimsuneean: ok, if you're in -11, please try model=6stack-digout12:16

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