[12:26] I've nothing against gentoo, but why would it not have a problem like that? [12:27] different distros do things different. [12:27] grazie: thanks, i'll check it out...is it as low-spec friendly as xubuntu? [12:28] clarklinux: even lower spec [12:28] you can use any DE you like [12:28] grazie: oh wow [12:28] from EvilWM to KDE+Beryl [12:28] cellofellow thats a big diffrence [12:29] i'd never install knoppix, but if I've got a hardware problem knoppix is my first choice [12:29] Portage is sort of slower than APT isn't it? It has to compile everything. Makes the apps run faster though. [12:29] no and yes [12:29] you can make it compile or you can get binaries [12:30] You can compile with APT too. So, is it just that Gentoo prefers source and Debian binaries? [12:30] portage is slower even without compiling, but it is much more powerful..it's gentoos best asset === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-2926.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [12:31] also, there are no pre-compiled binaries for any arch other than x86 I believe [12:32] anyone know a website that will let you build a custom computer? like select everything from a BIG list === null__ [n=null@pool-72-95-179-146.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:33] clarklinux: but installing a complete gentoo system is quite a lot work and time === brohan [n=brohan@bas1-montreal45-1177791762.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [12:35] Hi, I've got a slight issue with my resolution: that it is like.. giant (it might be font size) [12:36] I set sub-pixel smoothing, and relogged in and then everything has since looked bigger === cellofellow likes bigger [12:38] brohan try changing the font size or if icons are large change the resoultion [12:39] Yeah, I've tried that [12:39] and it still is gigantic [12:39] Well, some of it is gigantic [12:39] Like, my conky is big [12:40] Jester45, I'm also running a laptop and the resolution has been fixed at 1280x800 [12:40] is that what it says it is in Settings -> Display? [12:41] cellofellow, default [12:42] and if I take a screenshot with 'export' its 1280x800 [12:42] I have a feeling this is an xfce-specific issue [12:42] the laptop might only have that res? [12:42] Yeah, that's the res I want [12:43] It's an ultraportable, I wub its resolution [12:43] It's a font thing I'm pretty sure [12:43] I'm looking in ~/.config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb and picking nothing up [12:44] this sounds like the inverse of the issue i just had, where everything suddenly got smaller [12:44] lol === SamRose [n=chatzill@c-71-206-125-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:44] i fixed it by adding a dpi line in Xft.xrdb and a DisplaySize line in xorg.conf, if that's any help === looping2 is now known as looping_ [12:44] http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-more-on-fixing-fonts-problems.html yeah, I see this [12:45] brb === brohan [n=brohan@bas1-montreal45-1177791762.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=Commande@unaffiliated/bftd] has joined #xubuntu [12:46] Yay, dpi change in ~/.config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb worked :) === Jester45_ [i=Jester45@d45-194.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:47] clarklinux: before burning again you could try booting the live cd with 'live single' at the boot: prompt [12:55] that link helped me fix firefox, too. thanks [12:56] now i just have to figure out keymapping :( [12:56] brb [12:56] specifically, i remapped alt-gr to the "windows" key, which is where alt-gr ought to be according to my pinky, [12:57] and some applications stopped recognizing either key as alt-gr [12:57] which is a pain because on a spanish keyboard, you need it a lot. [12:58] use xmodmap and xev [12:58] !xmodmap [12:58] xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB [12:58] !xev [12:58] xev: X client - xev. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 68 kB [12:59] you open a text editor and put keycode ### = whatyouwant [12:59] use google to get mroe help im a bit busy [01:00] i did that, and it worked [01:00] except that like i say some apps won't recognize the key afterwards [01:01] grazie: I'm back...what does live single do? [01:01] clarklinux: change the runlevel...you'll not start the X windows gui [01:02] clarklinux: might not bother looking for the swap [01:02] grazie: is there anyway I can wipe the HD clean? there's a half installed xubuntu on it, i think [01:02] from the alt install [01:02] once you've booted yes === aidanr [n=aidanr@83.147.134.5] has joined #xubuntu [01:03] grazie: could yo tell me how to do that? i think I'll be able to install it if I can wipe everything first [01:04] clarklinux: we've got to get you booted somehow...did you try 'live single'? === PuMpErNiCkLe [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu [01:05] i'm reburning the live [01:05] it'll take a minute [01:05] clarklinux: why not do the minimal then? if you're burning anyway === ryno [i=ryno@rrcs-67-53-84-14.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #XUbuntu [01:09] grazie: i gotta go, but could you give me an idea of what to look for after live single? [01:10] grazie: there was a problem configuringthe network and I do not want to have to deal with that hahaha [01:12] clarklinux: you'll need to delete some partitions...I don't think I can give a single command to sort it [01:12] clarklinux do you have the ablity of wiping the drive [01:12] it would be easier to just reinstall with a alt or lice cd [01:13] clarklinux: if you've got an OS X install cd wipte the disk with that [01:13] jester: nope...andthe alt kept hhanging up [01:13] grazie: no osx disk === PuMpErNiCkLe [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu === fxr_ [n=fxr@84.13.70.166] has joined #xubuntu === XubuntuLover [n=teacher@199.80.154.68] has left #xubuntu [] === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA is now known as BFTD [01:28] grazie: there's no live-single option [01:28] ther's a live-nosplash [01:28] and a check [01:29] clarklinux: no. just enter 'live single' it's not on the menu [01:29] okay [01:29] thank you..i'll be back a little later === Winball [i=Winball@er.ut.ro] has joined #xubuntu [01:34] :D [01:35] hi [01:35] :) [01:36] :0 [01:39] grazie: live single did not go to a no-gui interface [01:39] it started loading with the little splash screen thing and did not finish (same error about swap [01:39] )* [01:41] clarklinux: did you try burning and booting the minimal cd? [01:41] grazie: yes but there was a problem with the network configuration [01:41] that did not allow it to work [01:41] clarklinux: ok. but it booted ok? [01:41] yes [01:42] clarklinux: well that doesn't have the swap problem then [01:42] should I try wiping the disk with that disk? [01:43] *the hard disk with that boot disk [01:43] clarklinux: you can get a primitive shell that you may be able to wipe the disk with...I don't know. [01:43] alright [01:44] i'll play around with it and see if i can find anything [01:44] i'll be back a little later [01:44] clarklinux: I'd use gentoo now myself...but that doesn't help you [01:44] clarklinux: I probably will not be around later === grazie_ [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie_ is now known as grazie [01:53] PuMpErNiCkLe: do you know if it's possible to wipe a disk from the built-in shell (Ash) [01:54] no dd, no fdisk, etc === limbert65 [n=limbert6@65-73-120-121.nas1.ski.ia.frontiernet.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] ah, dd is available === Winball [i=Winball@er.ut.ro] has left #xubuntu [] === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === R[a] ndom [n=random@bas9-toronto01-1242392991.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-2926.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu === AaronMT [n=Aaron@CPE00400549143c-CM0011aec89138.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:11] !fiesty [03:11] The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.220.148.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Sultanovich [n=sultan@host199.190-31-33.telecom.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.169.26] has joined #xubuntu [03:20] what's a good graphical utility for complicated ALSA settings? [03:21] How complicated? [03:25] choose soundcard mostly [03:28] That should be available in xfce4-mixer. [03:28] yeah, but my PCI soundcard I added isn't in the list. Just the onboard [03:29] Is it otherwise detected? === bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu [03:35] in lspci [03:36] but not anywhere else === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.169.26] has left #xubuntu [] === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === erigby [n=erigby@cpe-065-190-197-056.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=dsl@69.71.169.26] has joined #xubuntu [04:51] ok, something weird just happened to my computer. (this isn't my main computer, thank goodness.) GRUB is getting Error 17's, which I looked up and means bad filesystem type. in cfdisk, the type shows as Amoeba. It is really ext3. Can I use cfdisk to fix the partition table? (It got corrupted somehow.) [04:52] while keeping the data, of course === Sultanovich [n=sultan@host199.190-31-33.telecom.net.ar] has left #xubuntu ["Abandonando"] [04:54] any help here guys? [04:58] cellofellow: have you booted a livecd to it? [04:59] err .. booted it to a livecd [04:59] cellofellow: preferably knoppix if you have it [05:03] maxamillion, yes [05:03] sorry, was searching for Windows NIC drivers. [05:03] DSL, so Mini-Knoppix :) [05:03] rgr [05:03] cellofellow: are you able to see the data using the live cd? [05:04] yes [05:04] I'm just worried using cfdisk will break even that [05:04] hmmm... honestly, i would try to backup the data and then change the filesystem type in cfdisk and see what happens [05:05] there isn't any real data, just a brand new (yesterday) Xubuntu installation. [05:05] 3.1 GB [05:05] oh ... uhmmm, it might be a bad hard drive (or failing hard drive) [05:06] www.ultimatebootcd.org <--- good utility for hard drive checking [05:06] it didn't do it all on its own. Something happened when I tried to boot a windows installtion on another hard drive === cellofellow wishes he had some CD-R's. === cellofellow also doesn't think that ultimatebootcd.org is the right address. [05:08] it's dot-com [05:08] ohhhh [05:08] yeah === erigby [n=erigby@cpe-065-190-197-056.nc.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu ["Ah,] [05:10] I don't know how to select ext3 in cfdisk. :$ [05:11] its like #42 i think [05:11] you have to hit pg-down to see it [05:11] its been a while since i used cfdisk [05:13] 85 Linux Extended? [05:14] uhmm.... i dunno [05:14] lemme check something [05:14] ok, thanks [05:15] ah! on DSL there is no udev, and therefore I can't tell which /dev nodes are real or not. [05:16] cellofellow: brilliant [05:16] brilliant panic or brilliant 85 is ext3? [05:17] brilliant that DSL has no udev [05:17] just find that interesting === cclampblue1 [n=cclampbl@cpe-24-210-222-190.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:18] sup yall [05:18] you've been using linux long enough that udev is this cool new toy. [05:18] partition table problems === cclampblue1 is now known as cclampblues [05:20] cellofellow: do you have a xubuntu live disk? ... this would be easier with gparted [05:20] cellofellow: but yes, 83 appears to be ext3 [05:20] I have Ubuntu. I can install gparted, I'm not going to reboot now I'm backing up data from a messed-up Windows drive [05:21] cellofellow: rgr [05:22] no worries, but yeah ... i actually think 83 is just a "linux filesystem" and then from there you have to make the filesystem either ext2, ext3, reiser, etc... so i think gparted will end up being the easiest way because i think doing something like mkfs -t ext3 /some/drive would end up fragging the data [05:23] hey i have a question for you gurus: i added a network monitor to my panel and i dont know how to tell it wwhat device i am using. i dont even knoow where to find that informatiton. its a pcmcia wireless (generic-as-hell) card. i hammered it in and it works. other than that i know nothing. any suggenstions? [05:23] yeah [05:23] just type eth0 in the network monitor properties [05:24] cclampblues: you added the xfce network monitor panel? [05:24] yea. thanks. cellofellow i got it now. [05:25] yea max [05:25] is there some sort of monitor to show all machines connected to the netwrok [05:25] or program? [05:26] cclampblues: uhmmm... yeah, but that would be completely different ... check out nagios.org [05:26] i figured so... thanks. [05:26] cclampblues: its a very powerful program that is generally run on a server but i don't see why you can't run it on a desktop machine ... afterall, its linux :) [05:28] maxamillion, so, gparted can set the fs-type WITHOUT running mkfs? [05:29] I thought gparted always used mkfs. [05:29] cellofellow: you know what, now that you mention it .... i think it might [05:29] would fdisk be more straightforward in its fs-type names? [05:31] not quite sure to be honest ... never used it for more than viewing a partition table, i always used cfdisk in the command line and gparted for gui (once it came into existence) [05:31] ok, I'm taking the plunge and calling /dev/hda1 a type 85. === maxamillion crosses his fingers [05:32] Cannot change FS Type to extended [05:32] it stayed Amoeba [05:33] going with 83. Seeing if that works. If it doesn't, setting it to 85 may work this time. [05:34] what's 85? [05:34] Linux Extended is 85. 83 is plain Linux [05:34] It did mount as 83 but to be safe I think I'll try 85. [05:35] yeah [05:35] i think extended should be ext3 because ext2 was the "original linux fs" [05:36] how do i create this file in this transparency setup: http://blog.xfce.org/?p=77 ----i just make a text file right? [05:36] maxamillion, it still won't let me change to "extended" [05:37] Cannot change FS Type to extended [05:37] :( [05:39] if grub will still boot... it should be fine [05:40] yeah [05:41] it wouldn't work cause it couldn't fine /boot/grub/menu.lst because that was in an FS that the partition table said was Amoeba but acted like ext, so it errored and died. [05:42] jeebus, that's no good [05:50] so, enough of my gloominess. anything good happening? [05:51] !filesystem [05:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:51] great [05:51] !ext3 [05:51] ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org [05:52] thx. [05:52] I guessed [05:52] :) [05:52] i wouldntthave guessed that one [05:53] cclampblues: but you used the bot ... that puts you a step ahead of most users who come through the channel [05:53] :) [05:53] :D [05:54] !anything [05:54] Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:54] robots are funny. [05:55] yeah .... ubotu is "all knowing" [05:55] does it do tricks? [05:56] !anything [05:56] Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:56] !botsnack [05:56] Yum! [05:56] My two favorites. [05:56] oh yeah .. botsnack is a favorite :P) [05:57] no Fing way. thats great [05:57] they need a botslap too [05:58] i cant even navigate to this 'folder' ... http://blog.xfce.org/?p=77 [05:59] cclampblues: that folder doesn't exist by default on xubuntu (i think it will in feisty because of the inclusion of 4.4-stable) so you have to make it [06:00] cclampblues: wait sorry [06:00] cclampblues: i read ti wrong ... the folder is there, but not the config files [06:00] file* === maxamillion hates this laptop [06:00] and the keyboard [06:00] cclampblues, you trying to use compositing (transparency) ?? [06:00] yes [06:01] edit ~/.config/xfce4/mcs(something).xml and find the line with Compositing in it and change te value from 0 to 1. [06:02] wait [06:03] ~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/wmtweaks.xml [06:03] yes thats for the windows. the one on the website affects the panel [06:03] and i cant figure out how to edit it at all. it opens in firefox but i cant change anything. does it need to be opend in something else? [06:04] you can't edit files in firefox [06:04] try vim or mousepad or scite. [06:04] ok. [06:05] what does ~/ mean? [06:05] you're home directory [06:05] /home/yourname [06:06] some scripts use the $HOME shell variable. [06:06] ok. gimmie a min. thanks. im a novice (obviously) . i appriciate your / this rooms help [06:08] i dont see a /.config folder at all [06:09] ~/.config [06:09] i got to go guys. thanks for the help === Eagle_101 is now known as EagleZzZ === notMaxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:28] lol ... python fragged that laptop [06:28] brb === notMaxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has left #xubuntu [] === maxamill1on [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:29] note to self ... when using older hardware issued to you from work: don't push its limits, it will lock up [06:30] what'd i miss? [06:33] this maxamillion guy left and returned [06:33] yeah, i kicked him off and took his identity :) [06:34] well, that's about it [06:35] cool [06:35] thanks for the update [06:36] you wouldn't know of a vim syntax file for re2c, by any chance? I know it's seriously OT but we've established nothing is going on. [06:38] yeah, i wouldn't happen to know .... sorry :( [06:40] no worries, i was just getting irritated for the millionth time about the lack. [06:40] i should just write one, but vim syntax files are such a pita and c.vim is one of the worst. === ghetek [n=ghetek@c-76-21-13-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.216.123.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === kross [n=kross@adsl-75-36-148-116.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:01] Hi guys, is this a good place to ask a question about xubuntu? === kross [n=kross@adsl-75-36-148-116.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has left #xubuntu [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === ghetek [n=ghetek@c-76-21-13-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:41] how do i make a gui inputbox popup for my "sh" script? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === kupo [i=kupo@pdpc/supporter/student/Kupo] has joined #xubuntu [07:58] hallo, I'm getting bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy when i run 'cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp' and restarting alsa-utils doesn't seem to fix it [07:59] can anyone tell me how to troubleshoot it ? === squirrelpimp [n=squirrel@2001:6f8:915:0:230:1bff:feb9:742b] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === arualavi [n=Iva@67.Red-83-33-5.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === fxr [n=fxr@84.13.70.166] has joined #xubuntu [08:40] hi just a quickie, can someone recommend an application that i can edit an iso image with.. i.e add a folder to the disk image.. dont seem to be able to do it with K === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === arualavi [n=Iva@67.Red-83-33-5.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA is now known as BFTD === padrigal [n=hoganpj@cpc1-warw5-0-0-cust671.sol2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-197-231.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === nonever [n=david@Wa9d0.w.pppool.de] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:21] egads I just needed to add xfce4-mixer to the panel and adjust the pcm output [09:21] that 'tarded === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@upcoguildford.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === apokryphos [n=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #xubuntu === ghetek [n=ghetek@c-76-21-13-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === grazie_ [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === nonever [n=david@Wa9d0.w.pppool.de] has left #xubuntu [] === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-47-190.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu === ghetek [n=ghetek@c-76-21-13-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === ^^CatTuX^^ [n=Shoaibi@mbl-65-129-173.dsl.net.pk] has joined #xubuntu === baconvanhood [n=bacon@vhe-367407.sshn.net] has joined #xubuntu === kupo [i=kupo@pdpc/supporter/student/Kupo] has left #xubuntu [] === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu85-84-20-61.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu === Ademan [n=dan@h-68-167-204-118.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu85-84-20-61.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [11:04] Anyone know why apt-get segfaults and coredumps on a new install of xubuntu? === ^^CatTuX^^ [n=Shoaibi@mbl-65-129-173.dsl.net.pk] has joined #xubuntu [11:21] !games [11:21] Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org [11:21] !game [11:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:24] !chess [11:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about chess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:24] padrigal: no, but does the machine work with another OS? === ghetek [n=ghetek@c-76-21-13-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:26] No, not tried it with anything else yet. [11:26] I can't think what apt would be doing that should cause a coredump... [11:27] strace shows it failing just after a stat64 call, although the call completes OK. [11:27] padrigal: have you run the memtest? [11:27] You mean at the BIOS? [11:28] the install cd has a memtest option [11:28] Ah right, no, will try that now. [11:29] its runs continously, but the first complete pass shouldn't take too long === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #xubuntu === looping_ [n=cybertoo@ARennes-352-1-153-76.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [11:49] grazie_: Test seems OK so far. Might try kubuntu seeing as I have it to hand. === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-32-199.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@F73d8.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #xubuntu === SportChick [n=essy@freenode/staff/about.essy.sportchick] has joined #xubuntu === fenrig [n=chatzill@d5152D72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #xubuntu [01:01] hi [01:01] can i use xubuntu as firewall between the intenet and a server [01:02] i think i know what the answer is [01:02] fenrig: yes [01:02] ah okay [01:02] a crap i have to go [01:02] il catch u guys later [01:02] over 4 hours okay [01:02] i have to ask a lot so [01:03] see u guys soon === fxr [n=fxr@84.13.70.166] has joined #xubuntu === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [01:18] hiho === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has left #xubuntu [] === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [01:21] hi hyper_ch [01:22] gotta program a bit.. I still want to get this project done :) [01:25] TheSheep_: I believe the live cd uses a swap partition if it finds one on booting. Do you know of any way to stop it from doing this? [01:27] grazie: you can disable swap... [01:27] swapoff [01:28] TheSheep_: with a boot parameter? [01:28] hi i have a bad problem.. i want to install xp then ubuntu on my new lappy.. tho.. i have floppy or working cd rom drive, and no usb drive... it boots xp atm, but i wanna reinstall... & repartion.. where should i go for help.. any suggesstions..? [01:28] *no floppy or cd drive [01:29] i have access to a network... how hard would it be to set up a PXE boot server? [01:29] TheSheep_: the problem was the live cd was attempting to use a bad swap partition and the boot was failing because of it [01:30] or am i would repartioning the drive & putting extracting iso images to a new partion work? === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #xubuntu [01:31] grazie: I'm not sure, maybe there is a boot option for that :/ [01:31] fxr: I set up netboot yesterday on x86 server for ppc machine...wasn't too hard [01:31] !install | fxr [01:31] fxr: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues [01:32] fxr: you have no working floppy or cd-drive? [01:32] nope.. damned ebay bargins.. : s\ hyper_ch [01:33] grazie: how does the PXE server serve installations.. can you serve an entire iso.. or what? [01:33] or netboot.. even [01:33] fxr: you just serve something like a bootdisk [01:34] actually a bootdisk image [01:34] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows [01:34] fxr: or do you have a 1gb usb-stick? [01:35] nope.. hyper_ch but i might just run out and get one if needed.. id rather not tho tbh [01:35] fxr: you have a second computer? [01:36] yeah 2 hyper_ch all on a wireless network [01:36] oh well, have a look at the Installation from windows link above [01:37] ok.. thanks guys i have a wee wonder round these links and see if i can come up with some kind of plan.. : ) [01:37] fxr: before getting a usb stick, make sure the bios can boot from it. [01:37] well, a usb-stick is not really necessary [01:38] it should be working from within windows [01:38] yeah.. id rather do it as cheaply as possible tbh.. plus the shop is a 1hr walk away.. : ) [01:39] fxr: however there is one problem... if you mess up the installation from windows then you probably can't boot into windows either anymore [01:42] fxr: i think you'd be able to hook two machines together with a null modem cable so long as they both have nics [01:43] actually the manual approach from installation from windows shouldn't mess up windows [01:43] however the install can if it fails for some reason [01:47] fxr: BTW null modem cable is not what I meant...I meant a cat5 cable without the twist, although newer nics autodetect anyway me thinks === Kasplatt [n=n@81.18.230.53] has joined #xUbuntu [01:52] ... the applications tab in the top left corner dissapeared... [01:53] Kasplatt: you can add it back to the panel....Xfce menu [01:54] how ? [01:55] Kasplatt: right click on panel...add new item [01:55] okay, thanks [01:56] is there like a command to play a beep ? [01:56] play (beep) or something ? [02:00] what is the device for Wireless LAN ? [02:00] oh... nevermind... I found it eth1... right ? [02:04] Yeah, it all works :) thanks grazie. [02:04] np === fxr [n=fxr@89.241.53.69] has joined #xubuntu === squirrelpimp [n=squirrel@2001:6f8:915:0:230:1bff:feb9:742b] has joined #xubuntu === xjonex [n=jone@dsl-roigw1-fe8ede00-5.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu === cas1 [n=ubuntu@sci102.sci.unich.it] has joined #xubuntu === stev1 [n=stephen@spc2-lanc4-0-0-cust199.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === cas1 [n=ubuntu@sci102.sci.unich.it] has left #xubuntu [] === jpc [n=Turk@unaffiliated/jpc] has joined #xubuntu === pillo1 [n=ombre@p5492361E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === arualavi [n=Iva@67.Red-83-33-5.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === stev1 [n=stephen@spc2-lanc4-0-0-cust199.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has left #xubuntu [] === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@c-71-225-172-3.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === vrkhans [n=hkhan@cpe-65-185-119-90.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:21] hi [05:22] i have a question, I am using Xubuntu 2.6 if I upgrade do i lost all the setting i have in 2.6 or not [05:22] to 2.10 [05:22] what is the difference [05:22] or does it worth === sacater [n=sacater@host86-136-137-189.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:24] vrkhans: Where did you get that number from? More likely you have version 6.10. [05:25] or 6.06 [05:30] sorry i have 6.06 [05:30] thinking something else [05:30] vrkhans: if you upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 most of your setting will be fine, although I wouldn't guarantee everything will be the same [05:31] from 6.06 to 6.10 what the difference [05:31] vrkhans: are there any settings you are particularly worried about? [05:31] vrkhans: I don't really know 6.06 [05:32] becaue i have a 6.10 cd but when i try to install it it doest install because may be of my video card setting or something else [05:32] vrkhans: desktop cd (live cd)? [05:33] grazie: i tried both desktop and the alternate [05:34] it start installation but then for some reason "no signal found" msg appear on my monitor [05:34] vrkhans: you can upgrade to 6.10 using the alternate cd, but not the desktop [05:34] vrkhans: re-installation is very different to upgrading. you are describing re-installation [05:35] does there a big difference in 6.10 [05:35] ya [05:35] but i am little shaky, of losing what i have [05:35] grazie: which one you are using [05:36] vrkhans: you will lose your setting with a re-installation or new installation unless you have a separate /home partition [05:36] vrkhans: I'm using 6.10 [05:36] so i can not upgrade my system by doing apt-get upgrade [05:37] vrkhans: I have been testing 7.04 as well, but never used 6.06 [05:38] vrkhans: yes you can upgrade, but not quite like that [05:38] !upgrade | vrkhans [05:38] vrkhans: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [05:39] vrkhans: it would be quite a big download [05:39] ok another issue is i wont able to play any realplayer file in firefox . it give me a msg plugin install, i just install realplayer but firefox, how i can set that [05:40] vrkhans: as you already have the 6.10 alternate cd, you can do a big part of the upgrade using that [05:40] vrkhans: I don't understand your last message === g333k_work [n=gonzalo@64.76.110.15] has joined #xubuntu [05:43] I am trying to play realplayer format files on the web, in different site, but got a msg in firefox that i dont have the plugin . But i just install the realplayer and it is running seperately but not in the browser, what do you think i should do, to fix that. === gonzaloaf_work [n=Gonzalo@64.76.110.15] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.169.26] has joined #xubuntu === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === fxr_ [n=fxr@89.242.196.12] has joined #xubuntu === Romaan [n=Roman@80.48.71.52] has joined #xubuntu [05:46] grazie: did you got my msg [05:46] vrkhans: yes ok [05:47] vrkhans: when you installed realplayer the plugin should work too. Have you looked at this >> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.29 [05:47] it is running seperately, outside the browser but some how give that msg in firefox === Lorvija [n=lorvija@adsl-215-238-227.kymp.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:49] i am checking your link [05:53] grazie: I have to man , I will try the 6.10 and let you know, but does there any why i did mess up my current setting i can go back to my old version and delete the changes [05:55] vrkhans: no you cannot go back [05:56] grazie: the best thing to do is make a backup of everything first [05:56] vrkhans: if you mess up you can restore the complete backup === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu85-84-20-61.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.219.189.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu85-84-20-61.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === oopsy [n=PX2@217.129.104.220] has joined #xubuntu [06:10] hey [06:10] can anyone help me out? === malnilion [n=malnilio@adsl-70-233-254-190.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:12] I can't type commands like "Make" or "make install" in xubuntu? === cga [n=cga@213-140-6-101.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #xubuntu [06:16] !build-essential | oopsy [06:16] oopsy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!) === puppyfan12 [n=puppyfan@bas1-guelph22-1177735810.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [06:17] so I need tha build essential package for "make" commands to work? [06:17] that* [06:19] oopsy yes [06:19] thanks :) [06:19] oopsy: most software is installed through packages, "apt-get install xchat" for example [06:20] or apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [06:22] yea but I don't have an ethernet connection and I'm trying to get my wireless to work [06:22] so I really need all the needed packages first [06:23] build essential has some dependencies, are those fulfilled? [06:27] and one more thing : breezy > dapper > egdy [06:27] (breezy is the oldest, then dapper..) [06:40] Surprised that dude's ethernet didn't work out of the box... 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