[12:23] <Riddell> k3b works great
[12:26] <Tonio_> Riddell: currently building here
[12:26] <Tonio_> Riddell: just a little question, how did you get the non installed file list ?
[12:26] <XVampireX> Hi
[12:26] <XVampireX> k3b 1.0 is out, no chance?
[12:26] <Tonio_> Riddell: on that page : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4593
[12:26] <Tonio_> Riddell: I alsways wondered where to find that info :)
[12:29] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: It's getting funny now. Just installing the KubuntuDistupgrade Tool in an edgy chroot. So will kick of the upgrade soon.
[12:29] <toma> XVampireX: : we're pretty late in the release cycle, so it moght not be possible to include it in feisty, but it will be in updates in that case
[12:29] <XVampireX> In what updates?
[12:30] <Tonio_> Riddell: forget this..... damn stupid I am... buildlog
[12:30] <XVampireX> You mean in a separate repository, like amarok?
[12:31] <Riddell> Tonio_: dh_install --list-missing
[12:31] <toma> XVampireX: feisty-updates it is called iirc
[12:31] <Riddell> is invaluable
[12:31] <Riddell> toma: -updates is bug fixes only, -backports is new versions
[12:31] <XVampireX> toma: Oh, ok, thanks :)
[12:31] <toma> Riddell: ah, oki ;-)
[12:34] <Riddell> rbrunhuber: good luck, let me know how it goes
[12:34] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: What output is most valuable to you in case of an error? just the konsole output?
[12:35] <Riddell> rbrunhuber: konsole, dialogue error, and /var/log/dist-upgrader files
[12:36] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: lol it's just downloading OO from edgy-proposed so we'll have to wait a bit longer
[12:36] <Riddell> nasty
[12:38] <yuriy> ok time to dist-upgrade i think
[12:39] <toma> yeah updating from edgy-proposed took a while
[12:40] <Riddell> yuriy: using the tool?
[12:40] <yuriy> Riddell: will be
[12:41] <Riddell> yuriy: great, let me know what happens
[12:42] <yuriy> koffice, amarok, and kde4 repos aren't expected to cause problems?
[12:43] <yuriy> oh and amaranth's and compiz repo..
[12:46] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: The dist-upgrade wants to remove files. Could you add a filter so it's easy to find the packages which should get removed?
[12:47] <kwwii> how does one set a bug to fixed?
[12:47] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: It's no problem now because it is just a chroot for testing. but i feel very uncomfortable if a upgrade wants to remove something.
[12:49] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: Not really started and crashed already. Shall I attach the data to the bugreport?
[12:50] <yuriy> well that's not a good start
[12:50] <yuriy> i haven't used adept on edgy in a while, for all i know it was doing it already
[12:50] <yuriy> but i added the repo, clicked fetch updates. it instantly said "error downloading updates" and crashed silently
[12:51] <rbrunhuber> yuriy: Do you test the dist-upgrader too?
[12:51] <yuriy> i just added edgy-proposed. haven't actually installed the tool yet
[12:52] <yuriy> !fixapt
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <yuriy> !aptfix
[12:52] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:53] <yuriy> hmm different problem..
[12:57] <kwwii> Riddell: so are we going to change the website for Feisty?
[01:00] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: No luck the adept_tool is not running here.
[01:02] <Riddell> kwwii: not for feisty, unless someone works fast
[01:02] <Riddell> rbrunhuber: what happens?
[01:03] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: Backtrace to pastebin?
[01:03] <Riddell> rbrunhuber: ok
[01:03] <rbrunhuber> !pastebin > me
[01:04] <kwwii> Riddell: so I should wait to work on the design?
[01:05] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10697/
[01:05] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: This is the DialogOutput
[01:09] <Riddell> rbrunhuber: that was run from adept?
[01:11] <Riddell> rbrunhuber: that was run from adept?
[01:11] <rbrunhuber_> Riddell: yes adept_manager
[01:11] <Riddell> do you have /usr/bin/killall ?
[01:12] <Riddell> kwwii: dunno, it's not a priority for feisty certainly, but if you want to come up with designes that would be a good start
[01:12] <rbrunhuber_> Riddell: No there is no killall around just killall5 and it's in /sbin
[01:13] <Riddell> rbrunhuber_: how on earth can you not have killall installed?
[01:13] <rbrunhuber_> Riddell: Do not know
[01:13] <Riddell> rbrunhuber_: apt-get install psmisc
[01:14] <rbrunhuber_> Riddell: ok but have to hack sources list to have the edgy tools
[01:14] <Riddell> rbrunhuber_: oh and please report that backtrace to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+filebug saying that you don't have killall installed
[01:14] <Tonio_> hum, new k3b is very impressive
[01:14] <Riddell> Tonio_: flicker on resizing is quite nasty
[01:15] <rbrunhuber_> Riddell: Although it's just a chroot environment?
[01:15] <Tonio_> Riddell: on resizing what ?
[01:16] <Riddell> rbrunhuber_: did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[01:16] <Tonio_> Riddell: when resizing the window ?
[01:16] <Riddell> Tonio_: yes
[01:16] <Riddell> bottom panel flickers a lot for me
[01:16] <Tonio_> indeed
[01:17] <Tonio_> Riddell: tried to remove the background ?
[01:17] <Riddell> no
[01:17] <Riddell> it's not a big issue
[01:17] <Riddell> just something I noticed
[01:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: yes, I just tried with another theme, which is a bit better
[01:18] <Tonio_> ideal would be a nice and lite kubuntu theme in fact
[01:18] <jjesse> Riddell: just wanted to let you know that I am now running a fresh install of fiesty on my new laptop and it is awesome, you guys have done a great job
[01:18] <rbrunhuber_> Riddell: I installed kubuntu-desktop. But my setup seems to be really screwed now.
[01:18] <Riddell> jjesse: excellent :)
[01:18] <Tonio_> jjesse: hehe cool :)
[01:19] <jjesse> i even have suspend working correctly and also beryl w/ the whole flip 3d stuff
[01:19] <jjesse> its pretty cool
[01:19] <rbrunhuber_> Riddell: My sources.list is extremely short though
[01:19] <Tonio_> I can't say the same, the 2 latest kernel packages released refuse to boot on any apple machine, from the imac to the macbook pro
[01:19] <Hobbsee> jjesse: wow.
[01:20] <Tonio_> good point is that cjwatson and elmo have reported the issue, will probably get fixed hehe :)
[01:20] <jjesse> yeah its pretty sweet
[01:22] <jjesse> even all my buttons on my laptop work correctly
[01:22] <jjesse> including suspend
[01:23] <Tonio_> nite Riddell
[01:24] <jjesse> nite Riddell
[01:28] <Hobbsee> night Riddell
[01:35] <rbrunhuber> is ptrace disabled in kubuntu?
[01:35] <rbrunhuber> if I try to attach gdb to a process i always get ptrace: Operation not permitted. Even if i run gdb with sudo
[01:40] <yuriy> ok problem with the dist-upgrade tool
[01:40] <yuriy> doesn't go on after a 404 on a not important repo
[01:40] <Rumo_> strange
[01:41] <Rumo_> what happens if you comment that repo
[01:41] <yuriy> also doesn't show anything other than the progress bar while it's fetching updates at the beginning
[01:41] <yuriy> i just removed it, i'll try again
[01:42] <yuriy> ah NOW it disables third party sources
[01:45] <yuriy> ok starting upgrade :) can't wait
[01:46] <rbrunhuber> had gdb attached twice ...
[02:10] <zakame> morning all
[02:21] <bddebian> Heya zakame
[02:22] <zakame> hi bddebian :D
[03:58] <Paleo> Hi guys
[03:58] <Paleo> is there a "seen" command available here ? I'm looking for ryanakca
[03:59] <Hobbsee> Paleo: /msg seenserv seen username
[03:59] <Hobbsee> (for all of freenode)
[04:00] <Paleo> yeah, tried that, but
[04:00] <Paleo> -SeenServ- I haven't seen ryanakca recently
[04:02] <Hobbsee> !seen ryankca
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ryankca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <Paleo> :|
[04:02] <Hobbsee> nope.  ubotu doesnt do it anymore.  there's no way to tell
[04:03] <Paleo> He inquired me about setting up a Kolab server for the kubuntu-dev team last week, which I'm doing.
[04:03] <Paleo> Just getting sure it's still cool with him
[04:03] <Hobbsee> ahh
[04:03] <Hobbsee> i'm presuming it's still OK
[04:04] <Paleo> hope so:)
[04:09] <Hobbsee> !hardware
[04:09] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:14] <Hobbsee> interesting.  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.releases/157
[04:17] <yuriy> wow june 1 for feature freeze
[04:19] <Hobbsee> indee
[04:19] <Hobbsee> dd
[04:19] <Hobbsee> which, theoretically, wouldnt be too bad for a kubuntu release...
[04:19] <Hobbsee> maybe
[04:19] <yuriy> yeah seems reasonable
[04:19] <Hobbsee> well, we'd have to have it pretty soon after the release anyway, if we didnt put it into feisty
[04:19] <Hobbsee> er, feisty+1 sorry
[04:19] <yuriy> either way kubuntu is probably screwed for lts
[04:20] <Hobbsee> feisty+1 wasnt going to be a LTS, was it?
[04:20] <yuriy> no afaik, but then feisty+2... well i guess that's not bad
[04:20] <yuriy> if it gets into feisty+1 that is
[04:20] <Hobbsee> yes
[04:21] <yuriy> damn slow d/l... dist-upgrading takes long enough as it is
[04:23] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:23] <Hobbsee> yes
[07:35] <yuriy> ahh hooray for snow!
[07:36] <Jucato> :)
[07:36] <Jucato> what is snow? ;)
[07:36] <Hobbsee> snow?  hrm, dont know what htat is
[07:36] <Hobbsee> we're getting some rain though
[07:37] <Jucato> Hobbsee: for a moment there, I thought I accidentally entered #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:37] <Hobbsee> lol
[07:37] <Jucato> yuriy: not you. just someone in #u+1
[07:37] <yuriy> i usually go to #ubuntuforums for off topic but i figuered heck it's quiet in here
[07:38] <Hobbsee> Jucato: oh, holycow...yes...
[07:38] <yuriy> heh looks like a typical #ubuntuforums convo
[07:38] <Jucato> hm.. anyway for some reason I had to add a new printer... and the old printer just doesn't work...
[07:38] <yuriy> except without jdong
[07:39] <Hobbsee> heh
[07:39] <yuriy> hmm upgrader was waiting with a question while i was building snowmen. woulda been done by now
[08:51] <yuriy> upgrader done. be back in feisy, hopefully!
[09:16] <nixternal> http://chi.ubuntu-us.org :)
[09:54] <norbia> hi all
[09:54] <norbia> i need help in C++ prog in linux
[11:36] <Riddell> freeflying: patch for you
[11:37] <Riddell> in e-mail
[11:37] <Jucato> moin Riddell :)
[11:38] <freeflying> Riddell: got it, will test it later
[11:38] <Jucato> too late to have k3b 1.0 in feisty, right?
[11:41] <freeflying> Jucato: you may have a try  :)
[11:41] <Jucato> :)
[11:42] <Riddell> Jucato: dunno, I've asked
[11:42] <Jucato> oh kool :)
[12:10] <SlimG> Is there a way to make kdesu read the /etc/sudoers ?
[12:13] <Riddell> SlimG: it does
[12:16] <Riddell> although everything goes through kdesu_stub
[12:17] <SlimG> I've granted a specific user to run sudo kvpnc without getting prompted for a password, It works thru sudo but not kdesu
[12:18] <Riddell> they need kdesu_stub as I say
[12:20] <SlimG> just replace kdesu with kdesu_stub? if yes it doesn't work
[12:21] <Riddell> no, give access to kdesu_stub in sudoers
[12:24] <SlimG> Riddell: thanks! I would ask for an autograph but kinda hard on irc ;)
[12:24] <Riddell> note that kdesu_stub then gives access to anything
[12:26] <SlimG> note taken
[12:55] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:04] <weatherman> hi, are there any chances to see k3b 1.0 in feisty?
[01:04] <Riddell> weatherman: yes, there is a chance
[01:07] <Hobbsee> Riddell: what's the plan for k3b?
[01:11] <toma> Hobbsee: hi! k3b is ready on revu, i think the plan is to convince Riddell to write a beautifull exception request....
[01:12] <Hobbsee> toma: ahhh. he's not the only one who can write it, you know
[01:12] <toma> Hobbsee: we know, we just figured that this late in the process, Riddells name might be convincing.
[01:12] <Hobbsee> meh
[01:13] <fdoving> yay.. k3b 1.0
[01:15] <fdoving> 0.12.17 -> 1.0
[01:15] <toma> k
[01:18] <Riddell> toma: done that
[01:19] <Riddell> waiting on reply from release dude
[01:20] <toma> ah, great
[01:22] <Hobbsee> Embedded Kaffeine crash is fixed in svn...
[01:22] <Hobbsee> cant actually get in to see where though
[01:34] <jeroenvrp> well, properly this question had been asked a thousand times, so I'm sorry:
[01:34] <jeroenvrp> Will K3b 1.0 in feisty or is it to late!?!
[01:34] <toma> jeroenvrp: we are trying to get it in
[01:35] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: 3 days after the last person asked.
[01:35] <jeroenvrp> toma: good to hear
[01:35] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: ah :-)
[01:35] <jeroenvrp> but it's finally out after 10.000 RC's :-
[01:35] <toma> Hobbsee: lol ;-)
[01:35] <jeroenvrp> so I am the first after the official release!!
[01:35] <toma> cant we program the bot to answer it?
[01:36] <toma> ah well, personal interaction is ok as well
[01:36] <jeroenvrp> anyhow, if it is approved, how long will it take that it will be in the repos!?
[01:36] <jeroenvrp> in other words, is it worth compiling for the mean time
[01:37] <toma> jeroenvrp: for feisty?
[01:37] <jeroenvrp> toma: off course
[01:37] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: no you're not
[01:37] <toma> i should have a compiled version on my disk, if you have a second, i can upload it to my repository
[01:38] <jeroenvrp> oh well, I will try to compile it first by myselg
[01:38] <jeroenvrp> f
[01:39] <jeroenvrp> although I don't have the time to fix missing depenendencies
[01:42] <toma> jeroenvrp: fwiw: http://archive.omat.nl/feisty/
[01:42] <jeroenvrp> fwiw?!
[01:42] <jeroenvrp> aaah
[01:42] <jeroenvrp> for what it is worth
[01:43] <jeroenvrp> thanks toma
[01:43] <toma> yw
[01:43] <imbrandon> hey toma Hobbsee
[01:44] <toma> hi imbrandon
[01:44] <Hobbsee> hi imbrandon
[01:45] <jeroenvrp> toma: not the translations I see
[01:46] <jeroenvrp> or are they included
[01:46] <toma> jeroenvrp: no, thats a separate tarball iirc
[01:47] <toma> jeroenvrp: i only compiled this one because there were some problems with it earlier
[01:47] <jeroenvrp> oh properly it can use the existing translation
[01:48] <toma> probably tes
[01:48] <toma> yes
[01:58] <manchicken> hiya folks
[01:58] <Hobbsee> hey manchicken!
[01:58] <jeroenvrp> toma: I have added deb http://kubuntu.omat.nl/feisty ./ to my sources.list, but: http://kubuntu.omat.nl/feisty/./Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[01:58] <manchicken> ^_^
[01:59] <toma> jeroenvrp: change kubuntu to archive
[01:59] <toma> i moved it recently ;-(
[01:59] <jeroenvrp> toma: oh
[01:59] <jeroenvrp> I had it from http://archive.omat.nl/
[01:59] <jeroenvrp> I wqill change
[02:00] <toma> jeroenvrp: adjusted the page, thnxs
[02:01] <jeroenvrp> toma: great
[02:01] <jeroenvrp> ah there they are
[02:04] <manchicken> Can anybody help me with this problem?  I can't get any kubuntu work done while my chroot can't access the network :'(
[02:04] <manchicken> Google has failed me.  I'm so ashamed.  ;)
[02:04] <Hobbsee> manchicken: what problem?
[02:04] <manchicken> chroot can't touch the network.
[02:06] <manchicken> Wait, it's starting to look like a DNS issue....
[02:07] <manchicken> Yeah, DNS is broken in my chroot.
[02:07] <jeroenvrp> oh wos k3b1 looks  good
[02:08] <jeroenvrp> not only looks good, but it works better
[02:09] <manchicken> Anybod know how to fix DNS in a chroot? :)
[02:15] <imbrandon> edit the /etc/resolve.conf ?
[02:15] <imbrandon> ( or make one )
[02:15] <imbrandon> s/ve/v/g
[02:18] <manchicken> imbrandon: Thank you sir for slapping me upside the head with what should have been obvious... yet I didn't even think about it.
[02:19] <fdoving> this kdar issue is starting to annoy me.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> fdoving: it doesnt biuld
[02:20] <Hobbsee> fdoving: i'm thinking about filing a removal from the archive request, until debian packages it
[02:20] <Hobbsee> it cant find the libdar libraries, whcih is a build-dep.
[02:20] <fdoving> libdar64-4 ?
[02:20] <fdoving> that's what libdar-dev depends on.
[02:21] <Hobbsee> dunno
[02:21] <fdoving> i'll have a look.
[02:21] <Hobbsee> so shouldnt be a problem
[02:29] <fdoving> Hobbsee: i think there has been a change to the libdar package, building it with 64bit ints, that means it can handle dates until ~500 billion years from now, and files around 18 EB, instead of 32bits which means dates until 2106 and file sizes ~4G.
[02:39] <Hobbsee> fdoving: wouldnt surprise me
[02:40] <fdoving> Hobbsee: i'll prepare a new version.
[02:51] <manchicken> Is kwii in?
[02:52] <manchicken> (I don't see him, so I guess not)
[03:15] <manchicken>  /var/cache/apt/archives/hotkey-setup_0.1-17ubuntu6_amd64.deb <-- giving trouble
[07:56] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[07:56] <jjesse> hello
[07:59] <dinosaur-rus> audacious rocks! :P
[08:24] <fdoving> better than amarok?
[08:24] <fdoving> oh.. it's a bmp/xmms clone.
[08:28] <dinosaur-rus> which supports huge amount of formats out-of-the-box :)
[08:30] <fdoving> sounds cool.
[08:30] <fdoving> i'll try it just for fun.
[08:42] <dinosaur-rus> fdoving: the version in packages repository is a bit outdated :P
[08:42] <fdoving> dinosaur-rus: even in feisty ?
[08:43] <dinosaur-rus> fdoving: yeah...
[08:43] <fdoving> 1.2.2, ok.
[08:44] <fdoving> anyhow. i don't bother compiling yet.
[08:44] <dinosaur-rus> fdoving: http://audacious-media-player.org
[08:44] <dinosaur-rus> fdoving: the current stable version is 1.3.1
[08:46] <fdoving> i'll consider packaging 1.3.1 if i like it.
[09:01] <dinosaur-rus> shame on nVidia feedback -- they still hasn't fixed problems with their GL/glext.h
[09:12] <fdoving> must say i like amarok better, it integrates better with kde.
[09:14] <dinosaur-rus> fdoving: have you tried "Status Icon" plug-in?
[09:14] <fdoving> dinosaur-rus: no, it's not there in the feisty version.
[09:15] <dinosaur-rus> fdoving: I said it's not full and old :)
[09:31] <rbrunhuber> The more i play around with bluetooth in feisty the more I think it is completely broken
[09:34] <Riddell> rbrunhuber: it's entirely untested, we badly need someone who knows about it and has the hardware to work out what's up
[09:35] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: I have the hardware but no knowledge about this. It's is just to complex for a total newbie. I tried debugging it yesterday but no chance.
[09:36] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: to much interconnections kdebluetooth, bluez...
[09:36] <_StefanS_> evening
[09:38] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: The worst of all is that the packages seem to get "no love" at all. The bugs are just stacking up...
[09:42] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: hi
[09:42] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: Do you know a volunterr for this? I'd offer a bt dongle and if needed some money to get another device to talk to (mouse) etc.
[09:42] <_StefanS_> hey dinosaur-rus
[09:43] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: what is that bt you're talking about ?
[09:43] <rbrunhuber> bluetooth
[09:43] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: bluetooth I know, the thing you want fixed I mean
[09:44] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: I want to have bluetooth fixed in feisty. It is quite broken
[09:44] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: I gonna dislike nVidia's feedback team as there's still nothing about problem in their GL/glext.h... :/
[09:44] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: like file transfers and such ? I mean regular mouse stuff works (at least for me, even though hidd is not enabled default)
[09:45] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: err, nvidia ?
[09:45] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: sorry I dont know what you're talking about :)
[09:45] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: No pin request. Mouse is not working here. Every reboot it gets disconnected.
[09:46] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: oh, my bt mouse(s) does not use a pin . .
[09:46] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: their glext.h contains duplicate function prototype and that makes it uncompilable
[09:46] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: they work with hidd enabled, and with one hidd --search the first time I started using them
[09:46] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: can't you just merge the prototypes ?
[09:46] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: Mine neither but these are two bugs. Can't pair my phone anymore and my mouse is not working
[09:47] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: merge?
[09:47] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: well I'be got a few bt phones, so I guess I could try
[09:48] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: If they are unpaired you want succeed in feisty.
[09:48] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: glGetUniformuivEXT function, lines 6916 and 6952
[09:49] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: hmm (long text, i deleted), could you pastebin those functions, or mail the files to me, I could try to look at it
[09:50] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: hmm I've got both a nokia 6610i and a sony ericsson z550i let me try that . ..
[09:50] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: I wrote them a message may be a month ago, but still nothing...
[09:50] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: want = won't
[09:50] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: I got that ;)
[09:52] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: file /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-dev/include/GL/glext.h
[09:52] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: lines 6916 and 6952
[09:52] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: "extern void APIENTRY glGetUniformuivEXT (GLuint program, GLint location, GLuint *params);" and "typedef void (APIENTRY * PFNGLGETUNIFORMUIVEXTPROC) (GLuint program, GLint location, GLuint *params);"
[09:53] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: ok, I will look at that stuff in a moment
[09:53] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: I've enabled the bt mouse, and attached to the phone - and you can't get the ping through, correct ?
[09:53] <rbrunhuber> yes
[09:53] <_StefanS_> lemme try
[09:54] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: line 6916 is dup of 6905, line 6952 is dup of 6941
[09:56] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: obex push worked, but that doesn't require the passcode
[09:56] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: will try another thing
[09:58] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_:  I use obex-file transfer to test
[09:58] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: I just pushed a 10kb log file to my phone without a problem
[09:59] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: using "OBEX Object Push"
[09:59] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: the Obex file transfer requires you to set a password on your pc (I guess)
[10:00] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: Normally the phone asks if it should pair then entery passcode then the kdebluetooth paskkey thingi should show up but it does not. So pairing fails
[10:01] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: so you mean the bluez-pin should launch automatically or something like that ?
[10:01] <rbrunhuber> no not bluez pin but kbluepin
[10:01] <_StefanS_> ha
[10:01] <_StefanS_> ah
[10:02] <_StefanS_> well its not installed on my system
[10:02] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: I can't belief this. kubuntu-desktop is dependent on this AFAIK
[10:03] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: well there isn't path to it... let me check another feisty
[10:03] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: nope it aint there on the other feisty as well..
[10:03] <rbrunhuber> its in /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin
[10:04] <_StefanS_> hmm i see
[10:04] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: so which is no friend here :-)
[10:05] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: let me check my edgy, and see if it works there
[10:05] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_:  it works there
[10:06] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: I just reinstalled two machines including an upgrade from edgy to feisty and it worked on both
[10:06] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: good thing... I think pin_helper is missing in the config file on feisty
[10:06] <_StefanS_> but i'm checking now
[10:06] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: Nope. They changed the interface of bluez to dbus. pin_helper want help you
[10:07] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: nevertheless I have an edgy to compare with
[10:07] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: if you do a ps ax|grep passkey you should see something like this: /usr/bin/passkey-agent --default /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin
[10:07] <_StefanS_> oka
[10:10] <dinosaur-rus> :)
[10:10] <rbrunhuber> hi allee
[10:11] <allee> hi rbrunhuber
[10:12] <rbrunhuber> allee: talked to vpri* today but I'm afraid i was not a big help to him. He filed a bug on bt though.
[10:13] <allee> rbrunhuber: I'll have a look at lauchpad later
[10:24] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: maybe this could be related to the dbus version ?, it seems like the passkey is not sent correctly on to passkey-agent from dbus
[10:24] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: if the key is >16 && <1 that errors occurs..
[10:24] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: it might be likely that the key is simply null
[10:25] <_StefanS_> && -> || ;)
[10:25] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: edgy use dbus 0.93, and feisty uses 1.0.2
[10:25] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: I know the api wasn't stable until 1.0, so maybe that could be it..
[10:28] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: I dont have those nvidia files since I have an ati card ;)
[10:29] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: could you send it to me ?
[10:29] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: what's your e-mail?
[10:29] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: sfs@enhance-it.dk
[10:29] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: I will try to see if I can figure it out
[10:30] <dinosaur-rus> _Stefans_: sent
[10:30] <_StefanS_> goody
[10:31] <_StefanS_> not here yet
[10:34] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: still not here....
[10:35] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: hmm...
[10:38] <_StefanS_> nothing yet
[10:40] <dinosaur-rus> _Stefans_: strange...
[10:40] <_StefanS_> yea it is
[10:47] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: now I got it ;)
[10:47] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: sent again, but this time as unsigned message
[10:47] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: well I got both now..
[10:47] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: donno why it would be so slow
[10:47] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: lol
[10:48] <_StefanS_> hey manchicken_
[10:49] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: hmm, doesn't it work when you just uncomment one of the entries ?
[10:49] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: sorry comment
[10:50] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: redundant entries were commented out by myself :))
[10:50] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: ok, doesn't it work then ?
[10:51] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: ah there's another one. .
[10:51] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: it works, but I have to edit that file each time nvidia-glx-dev package is updated... annoying
[10:51] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: ah jeeez.. well I thought you had two protos that used different arguments  :)
[10:52] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: and wanted them to work both
[10:52] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: well, is it the official nvidia you've installed, or is it ubuntu version ?
[10:52] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: ahh... things aren't sooo bad :P
[10:52] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: it's in nvidia-glx-dev package
[10:53] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: you should be able to look up the maintainer
[10:54] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: when this problem appeared for the first time, somebody here told me to write a bugreport to nVidia
[10:54] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_: If i use kdebluetooth from debian it works
[10:55] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: well it must be possible to just incorporate that check into the .deb, but ofcourse the best way is to have nvidia fix it
[10:55] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: well then.. you should contact Riddell then, maybe he can shed some light on how kde's bluetooth is setup in feisty
[10:55] <dinosaur-rus> _StefanS_: I wrote to nVidia, but no fix or even any answer from them
[10:56] <_StefanS_> dinosaur-rus: commercial companies... typical
[11:58] <gnomefreak> k3b is in main :(
[11:58] <gnomefreak> can i still fix a bug once the fix has been acked?
[11:59] <Riddell> gnomefreak: acked by who?
[11:59] <crimsun_> yes
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Riddell: you maybe?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> bug 64863
[11:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64863 in k3b "It would be nice if k3b could automatically fetch mp3 decoder (package libk3b2-mp3)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64863
[11:59] <Riddell> you're welcome to fix bugs any time
[11:59] <gnomefreak> its wishlist
[11:59] <Riddell> ah, that's a feature
[11:59] <gnomefreak> yeah
[11:59] <gnomefreak> maybe late for feisty
[11:59] <Riddell> it could only go in if the patch was small and readable
[12:00] <gnomefreak> its just a suggested package
[12:00] <gnomefreak> just to add libk3b2-mp3 to suggest
[12:01] <Riddell> oh, that's pretty trivial then :)
[12:01] <Riddell> doesn't really close the bug mind
[12:01] <gnomefreak> it doesnt?
[12:03] <Riddell> the package still won't get installed unless the user does it
[12:03] <gnomefreak> true
[12:03] <Riddell> I'd have thought the bug ment something like what we have in amarok
[12:03] <gnomefreak> that would be too hard to implenment this late in release i would think
[12:03] <gnomefreak> implement
[12:04] <gnomefreak> thats a bit over my head too :(
[12:05] <gnomefreak> ah i see what happened
[12:05] <gnomefreak> its bug 44838 that the above would fix
[12:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 44838 in k3b "k3b should suggest libk3b2-mp3 for .mp3s (dup-of: 64863)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44838
[12:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64863 in k3b "It would be nice if k3b could automatically fetch mp3 decoder (package libk3b2-mp3)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64863
[12:05] <gnomefreak> someone marked it as a dupe
[12:06] <gnomefreak> i would say if you cant implement the script in k3b still should atleast close one bug out of it
[12:07] <gnomefreak> s/still/we still
[12:07] <Riddell> sure, I can mind and do that if I get to upload 1.0