[03:52] <Jisao> Is there a feedback team for the new ubuntu.com site?
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> Jisao: No idea - but if you babble here there's a more-than-decent chance the appropriate folks will see and/or hear about it later.
[03:53] <dsas> Jisao: yeah.
[03:54] <dsas> Jisao: you can file bugs on it here: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+filebug
[03:54] <dsas> the editors are listed here: https://beta.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-website
[03:54] <Jisao> This new download ubuntu page is bad.  Too many questions.
[03:54] <Jisao> tx
[03:54] <dsas> or you can email webmaster@ubuntu.com
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> dsas: much better answer :)
[03:55] <Jisao> I don't think an opinion would qualify as a bug...
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> Jisao: Note that you'll need to remove the beta. if you aren't a beta tester
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> Jisao: "wishlist" - sure it can!
[03:55] <Jisao> Oh, I see.
[03:55] <Jisao> No, I am not a beta tester.  Just an interested user.
[03:56] <Jisao> I just find it annoying to need 5 slides to explain how to choose the right iso.image instead of one.
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> Maybe there should be a long explanation as well as an "I know what I'm doing, gimme" button.
[03:59] <Jisao> I don't know.  I liked the debian explanation:  "If you don't know what we are talking about, then choose this one" :-)
[04:00] <Jisao> They omitted the name of the version.
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> From the iso names?  Yeah, I've heard that - and think it's shockingly dumb
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> I thought that was being fixed
[04:03] <Jisao> Nope.  I deal with new people to Linux.  They are going to freak reading that page.
[04:03] <Jisao> But I better get over the shock, otherwise I am going to come across as a first class complainer.
[04:04] <dsas> Jisao: filing bugs is all about complaining.
[04:05] <Madpilot> Jisao, if you click the silver 'download' button in the top orange banner on ubuntu.com, you get one screen with four sets of choices, then you get the ISO.
[04:05] <Madpilot> where's the '5 screen' version?
[04:05] <Jisao> not screens, slides.  As in a slide show.
[04:06] <Jisao> I need to explain more about this page now than before.
[04:06] <Madpilot> just aim people straight to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[04:08] <Jisao> There are going to be a s...load of broken links on the internet, believe you me.
[04:09] <Madpilot> how? I think the old URL was ubuntu.com/download, which now nicely forwards to the URL I just gave...
[04:10] <Madpilot> and if links directly to ISOs have broken, that just proves that you shouldn't link directly to ISOs...
[04:12] <dsas> oh dear, they're pushing IdeaPool on the mainpage now, as if it hasn't been cesspooly enough.
[04:12] <dsas> s/mainpage/mainsite
[04:12] <Jisao> Yes, it seems many links forward.  Good.
[04:13] <Madpilot> Jisao, every link should forward if URLs have changed, If you find one that does, file that as a bg
[04:13] <Madpilot> bug, even
[04:13] <Jisao> ok
[04:14] <Madpilot> that's just basic good webmastering - do not break links
[04:16] <Jisao> You'd be surprised at how many people don't do that.
[04:16] <Madpilot> there's lots of crap websites out there. Ubuntu's generally aren't among them.
[04:18] <Jisao> Well, that will be a premiere:  my first bug report in Linux.
[04:29] <Jisao> Bug #92999
[04:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 92999 in Ubuntu "Error 404 on page of the ubuntu.com web site " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92999
[04:40] <Madpilot> Jisao, that URL you get a 404 on redirects to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/610
[04:40] <Madpilot> there is no 404
[12:04] <kalon33> good morning !
[12:36] <Jisao> good morning
[12:36] <Jisao> See the bar on the right hand side of this page to view our draft documents which are currently under development for release with Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake!
[12:37] <Jisao> Does that need to be updated, or you are still developing for that?
[12:40] <Jisao> http://doc.ubuntu.com/
[12:43] <mdke> yes, it needs updating
[12:44] <Jisao> To Feisty?
[12:44] <mdke> right
[12:45] <Jisao> ok.
[12:45] <mdke> (done)
[02:13] <CIA-5> Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3986 / (2 files in 2 dirs): small fix for Universe/Multiverse, as per bug 91355
[02:13] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 91355 in ubuntu-docs "Universe and Multiverse enabled by default" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91355
[06:01] <bodhi_zazen> anyone know a quick link to wiki guidelines for screen shots ?
[08:09] <mdke> bodhizazen: DocumentationTeam/TakingScreenshots is the best we've got. But I don't think it is particularly up to date or well prepared
[08:09] <mdke> damn, I mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TakingScreenshots
[08:09] <bodhizazen> mdke, thanks
[08:12] <bodhizazen> mdke not exactly what I was looking for
[08:13] <bodhizazen> I thought I had run across a page asking for default desktop
[08:13] <mdke> what are you looking for?
[08:13] <bodhizazen> and suggesting taking screen shots with a virtual machine
[08:13] <bodhizazen> sound familiar at all ?
[08:14] <mdke> screencasts maybe?
[08:15] <mdke> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam?action=show
[08:15] <mdke> bbl