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[03:48] Hobbsee: There is some confusion regarding things being announced as "GMT", which as I understand it is not the same, since GMT does daylight savings, while UTC is stable. Is that right? [03:48] http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx :) [03:48] @schedule New_York [03:48] Schedule for America/New_York: 17 Mar 11:00: Xubuntu | 19 Mar 11:00: Kernel Team | 19 Mar 19:00: IRC Operators | 20 Mar 14:00: Community Council | 21 Mar 08:00: Edubuntu | 22 Mar 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team [03:48] that should answer the question . . . thx, Hobbsee [03:49] Nice link j1mc, thanks :) [03:50] gouki: :) there were three of us talking about it in #xubuntu (we have a meeting tomorrow), so . . . 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[01:12] @schedule Calcutta [01:12] Schedule for Asia/Calcutta: 17 Mar 20:30: Xubuntu | 19 Mar 20:30: Kernel Team | 20 Mar 04:30: IRC Operators | 20 Mar 23:30: Community Council | 21 Mar 17:30: Edubuntu | 22 Mar 21:30: Ubuntu Development Team [01:12] @schedule dili [01:12] Schedule for Asia/Dili: 18 Mar 00:00: Xubuntu | 20 Mar 00:00: Kernel Team | 20 Mar 08:00: IRC Operators | 21 Mar 03:00: Community Council | 21 Mar 21:00: Edubuntu | 23 Mar 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:16] :/ [01:16] :S [01:16] :| [01:16] :O [01:16] :@ [01:16] :D [01:16] ok dude [01:16] we get it [01:16] :D [01:16] wat? === mode/#ubuntu-meeting [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === HyperDUDe [n=chatzill@59.95.195.210] has left #ubuntu-meeting [requested] === HyperDUDe [n=chatzill@59.95.195.210] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:17] HyperDUDe: this is a meeting channel. [01:17] HyperDUDe: why are you spamming it? [01:17] sry [01:17] sry === mode/#ubuntu-meeting [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [01:18] hey'all [01:19] hiya effie_jayx [01:19] poor guy... I bet he misses the emticons on his messenger :S [01:19] hey Hobbsee :D [01:20] heh === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === BackwardsDown [n=niels@ip51cf1183.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === BackwardsDown [n=niels@ip51cf1183.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === kalon33 [n=kalon33@i02v-62-34-145-118.d4.club-internet.fr] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Kopete] === kalon33 [n=kalon33@i02v-62-34-145-118.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:28] @schedule sydney [02:28] Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 18 Mar 02:00: Xubuntu | 20 Mar 02:00: Kernel Team | 20 Mar 10:00: IRC Operators | 21 Mar 05:00: Community Council | 21 Mar 23:00: Edubuntu | 23 Mar 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team === BuffaloSoldier [n=firdaus@ubuntu/member/BuffaloSoldier] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === emonkey-x [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DAA58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:55] any xubuntu-ites here? [03:56] j1mc, xubunteros is the word ;) [03:56] i mean, xubunteros? :) === Romaan [n=Roman@80.48.71.52] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:00] hi Romaan [04:00] hi === Grey_Loki [n=Loki@212.49.210.38] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:00] hey Grey_Loki [04:00] Hihi :) [04:00] you two here for the xubuntu meeting? [04:01] Hrm, I see in the topic there's a MOTU council. Is this MOTU as in, Mark of the Unicorn? [04:01] Even though I missed it >.< [04:01] heh . . . === j1mc can't change the topic, but according to the fridge, this is xubuntu time === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.169.26] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:03] Hi [04:03] hi cellofellow [04:03] thanks for stopping by === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:03] Who else is here? [04:04] looks like it might be a short meeting, cellofellow [04:05] j1mc, you can change it now [04:07] (topic is messed up, bot is broken) === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:j1mc] : xubuntu meeting [04:07] @topic [04:07] hmm [04:07] ok, stupid bot [04:08] @reload Webcal [04:08] @topic === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Xubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 19 Mar 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 19 Mar 23:00 UTC: IRC Operators | 20 Mar 18:00 UTC: Community Council | 21 Mar 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 22 Mar 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team [04:08] Seveas: thanks [04:08] Is there a log of this MOTU meeting somewhere? I'd quite like to read up on what was said, assuming that it's the sound-related MOTU... [04:09] Grey_Loki, check #ubuntu-motu === Grey_Loki frowns [04:09] Damn [04:09] Masters Of The Universe? [04:09] Grey_Loki, aham === Grey_Loki sighs [04:09] Xubuntu meeting here :D ? [04:10] yeah, I think. === nothlit_ [n=nothlit@pcd416055.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:10] supposed to be [04:10] hey effie_jayx yeah . . . [04:10] we don't have many people here right now, but . . . any of you involved with documentation or artwork? [04:10] not really. [04:10] effie_jayx: you? [04:11] j1mc, In spanish [04:11] ok [04:11] sometimes I give jmak artwork tips. I support his ideas more than some of the other devs. [04:11] I fixed the xubuntu usplash theme, that's all art I do :) [04:11] not that i'm a dev [04:11] j1mc, I ma interested in begining xubuntu docs in spanish... I currently manage a team of spanish documentation [04:11] well, i guess i can provide a brief update on docs . . . === Grey_Loki [n=Loki@212.49.210.38] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === TheSheep_ [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:12] unlike edgy, did provide some updates to our docs === j1mc welcomes TheSheep_ [04:12] the updates primarily were to make them current, and fix glaring errors but no major overhauls [04:13] hello everyone [04:13] effie_jayx: do you know who you'd contact to help with translating them in spanish? [04:13] I'm not exactly sure what is new in Feisty. New versions of all the bits and pieces as usual. [04:13] j1mc, I came here hopeful that Iwould network with someone doing some spanish doc [04:14] I would if I knew a lick of spanish. :) [04:14] effie_jayx: ok, i'll see who i can put you in touch with. i know one of the main kubuntu doc people. [04:14] can you /msg me and send me your email address? [04:15] sure [04:15] TheSheep_: what have you been involved in? === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp85-141-149-82.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:16] Welcome Centre? [04:17] cellofellow: do you know if that made it through? [04:17] not sure. === dennda [n=dennda@ubuntu/member/dennda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:17] TheSheep_: how is Welcome Centre going anyways? It's sort of like docs . :) [04:19] cellofellow: what have you been up to, other than providing good support on #xubuntu? :) [04:20] Learning to program with Python. [04:20] Adding some insights to xubuntu-devel mailing list. === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-71-202-49-23.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:22] although it wasn't listed as an agenda item, xubuntu ISO testing is getting better, with more community participation. [04:22] I don't have a CD burner, and so I am limited to using QEMU. [04:22] I can use QEMU to install on a normal hard drive and run from there. [04:23] hey guys [04:23] hi [04:23] ok, if you want, i can see if they have a specific spot to report QEMU tests [04:23] hi highvoltage [04:23] j1mc: oh, sorry, mainly welcome centre, it's not doing very well [04:24] I install using qemu, but then run in the normal box. [04:24] hey j1mc and cellofellow [04:24] highvoltage: how are things with xubuntu packages in edubuntu? [04:24] TheSheep_: what needs help in welcome centre? just more manpower? what skills are required to work on it? [04:25] j1mc: the program is more or less finished, we don't really have any content for it though [04:25] highvoltage: do we NEED to compete with TuxLabs or can we just let them fill their niche? [04:25] in content, you mean docs? [04:26] TheSheep_: where is the content wiki again? [04:26] cellofellow: welcome.sheep.art.pl === BackwardsDown [n=niels@5351BB29.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:26] cellofellow: we can move it to regular ubuntu wiki [04:26] cellofellow: or anywhere else [04:26] cellofellow: I don't think tuXlabs and Xubuntu ever competed [04:27] cellofellow: I think tuxlab has done good in getting xubuntu out there, and getting it more wider testing [04:27] TuxLabs is Edubuntu stuff with XFCE desktop. Designed for LTSP installations. [04:27] so, why we need Edubuntu stuff in Xubuntu? [04:27] tuxlabs does that. [04:27] ah, I see === nothlit [n=nothlit@n219077184133.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:28] oh . . . pardon my comment, i was just going off of some notes from the last meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [04:28] (my comment about xubuntu packages in edubuntu) [04:28] cellofellow: well, Edubuntu is going to use Xubuntu packages on the edubuntu-add-on disk, so there's not any additional load on the xubuntu team has to do in terms of education at the moment [04:29] ok, so an XFCE-Edubuntu option disk? [04:29] something like that, yes [04:29] Edubuntu will install a gnome desktop, and there will also be an Edubuntu CD 2 disk [04:29] that will contain Xfce for those who would like to implement it [04:30] ok then. [04:30] cellofellow: but if anyone would like to get more involved with xubuntu-edubuntu collaboration, I'd urge them to join #edubuntu too [04:30] (and vice-versa) [04:31] highvoltage: sounds good. thanks for that tip. [04:31] well, allright then. I might try that. I just installed Xubuntu on a computer that is mostly for younger kids. [04:31] i think both edubuntu and xubuntu struggle a bit with manpower, no? i know nixternal was asking for edubuntu doc help. [04:31] j1mc: yes, both need help [04:32] if we can work together on some items, maybe we can pool resources. [04:32] both have strong, small cores, but I think they are at a stage where both needs to expand [04:32] j1mc: sounds very good [04:32] I would think Canonical would put a lot of effort behind Edubuntu, because it's a more commercial-oriented version than the otehrs. === j1mc will look into edubuntu project. cellofellow i agree. esp because edubuntu is an official Canonical project. === j1mc thinks the welcome centre looks pretty great [04:34] the demand for Xfce is *definitely* growing, imho, it's just a matter of time before Canonical will have to provide for Xfce as well [04:34] especially on large LTSP deployments. [04:34] I think the language is a bit too technical and needs to be lively and written for the lay-man or even the semi-technophibic. === j1mc *nods* [04:35] cellofellow: was the welcome centre intended to replace the "getting started guide"? [04:36] It was supposed to pop up and "welcome" the user on first boot I believe. [04:37] j1mc: it was supposed to have links to the most important parts of documentation [04:37] j1mc: something like the windows' one [04:38] TheSheep_: ok, kind of like an introduction to the documentation - more concise [04:38] j1mc: I'm not convinced it's needed, but it was fun to write :) === highvoltage thought that big parts of it was already written [04:38] :-) yeah [04:39] I think the language in it should be bright and happy. It seems technical and concise right now. Not that concise is bad, you want it in serious docs, but in a Welcome! thing it should say the basics in a nice happy way. [04:39] cellofellow: you are absolutely right [04:39] cellofellow: some dialog would be nice too [04:39] been a while since I've seen Adam on IRC, anyone been in contact with him? [04:39] Dialog? how do you mean. [04:39] cellofellow: unfortunately, most of it is just copied from the ubuntu docs or written by tech people [04:39] Adam? you mean maxamillion? [04:39] I saw him yesterday. and on jabber too. [04:40] he's offline ATM. [04:40] j1mc: yep [04:40] was he heading up the welcome centre? [04:40] I thought it was Radomir here. (If we are using real names. ;) ) [04:40] cellofellow: dialog like in books, you know, also some narration and maybe even plot [04:41] him and cody somersville, iirc [04:41] Don't know about that. Perhaps so. [04:41] Cody's been in the hospital or something. [04:41] oh yes, indeed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications/Feisty/XubuntuWelcomeCenter [04:41] cellofellow: yes. :( i hope he's ok. [04:42] I think I can juice up the Welcome Centre if I find time. My family and I are going to England this week, will be gone for three. [04:43] I currently have some Home LAN admin issues too. [04:44] i am not an expert, but it looks like the UI is off to a decent start. i would be willing to help write for the welcome centre. [04:44] sounds like we're looking at feisty+1 for this? [04:44] Maybe [04:45] (I think Feisty+1 should be Groovy Gazelle.) === j1mc thinks grande giraffe [04:45] both cool. [04:45] hehe :) [04:45] geeky gazelle [04:46] hehehe [04:46] Grande Giraffe sounds big. Groovy Gazelle sounds cool and fast. === j1mc pings mark shuttleworth to ask which he prefers. ;-) [04:47] so . . . sounds like we need to get in touch with the welcome centre devs. [04:48] hey, jmak is online [04:48] oh, cool... [04:48] Gtalk, I just IM'd him. [04:48] thanks. === nothlit [n=nothlit@pcd555190.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:50] cellofellow: did he respond? [04:50] not yet [04:50] he must be busy. === Jmak [n=mak@h66-201-246-27.gtcust.grouptelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:51] *wave* [04:51] hello, Jmak! [04:51] Hi [04:52] howdy. thanks for stopping by. [04:52] What's going on [04:52] Nothing really. Might we ask how the artwork is going? [04:52] so far we have briefly discussed documentation, working with edubuntu, and also spent some time talking about the welcome centre. [04:53] . . . so now would be a good time for artwork. :) [04:53] Everything is already done [04:53] i must say that the default wallpaper has grown on me. [04:53] How so? [04:54] at first i thought it was a bit too dark or rich, and i thought something glass-ier might look better, but now i like it. [04:54] just one person's opinion. [04:54] Jmak: how about my face-browser-enabled login screen idea? [04:55] Jmak: there are some new icon sets available in the repos. have you given any of them a try? [04:55] What repos? [04:55] well, i'm not sure if they're "new" but they are new to being in the repos. [04:56] i'll check . . . [04:56] I am also working on an orange version of the tango [04:57] Isn't that already? Tangerine? [04:57] Tangerein is too oragne [04:57] Mine is more brownish [04:58] And i also have an aluminium version [04:58] gnome-icon-theme-gartoon tangerine-icon-theme gnome-extra-icons gnome-humility-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme-blankon gnome-icon-theme-dlg-neu gnome-icon-theme-gperfection2 gnome-icon-theme-nuovo gnome-icon-theme-suede [04:58] those are new to me from the repos, anyway. [04:59] i just did an "apt-cache search icon --names-only" [04:59] perhaps we can provide overall "themes". You seem to like either Blue or Gray. I like green myself. [04:59] I know the nuovo and the neu, i check out the rest [04:59] Green icons? [04:59] Jmak: there are a few others, too. those are just what i picked out. [05:00] never seen any, I just like green desktops. [05:00] Everythin is better than the blue tango [05:00] someone must have packaged a bunch of icons for debian. [05:00] Jmak: i haven't done a thorough test, but using some of those as my icon set doesn't convert *all* of my icons to the selected settings. [05:01] that means they aren't quite complete. [05:01] I like the green themes as well for feisty + === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:01] cellofellow: might it mean that xfce looks for icons to be in a specific file hierarchy, and that it doesn't always match up with gnome?? [05:02] Most icon sets are incomplate [05:02] I do like the Gcezanne icons you linked to on the mailing lists once, and they work great for ROX, but not enough icons in the right places for full XFCE. [05:02] Jmak: do gnome and xfce use the same file tree structure to store icons? [05:02] XFCE uses the Tango standard for icon locations, I think. right? [05:03] There is a nice Gcezanne one of my favorite too. [05:03] xfce has some icons named differently -- there are symbolic links to amend that] === PuMpErNiCkLe [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:03] can't we all just settle on the gnome or tango standard please? [05:03] welcome, PuMpErNiCkLe [05:03] yo [05:04] cellofellow: agreed :) [05:04] cellofellow: is that a rhetorical question? :) [05:04] Blue tango is very dull [05:04] I thought Tango was more than just an iconset, it was also a icon tree standard wannabe. [05:04] j1mc: sort of. === highvoltage quite likes blue tango === vinze [n=kvirc@ip4da1ded4.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:06] I like Firefox themes that match or look like the native iconset. I can do that with Tango but not others. [05:06] Hey [05:06] Could we make a complementary Firefox theme too? [05:06] perhaps not for Feisty, but next time. [05:07] There is a tango icon set for firefox [05:07] better make firefox use the system icons and theem ;) === highvoltage agrees strongly with TheSheep_ [05:08] Trouble is Firefox doesn't acces the system icons. [05:08] you have to make a firefox theme addon. [05:08] can't the theme contain symlinks to the system icons? [05:09] (an add-on theme, that is) [05:09] themes are sort of self-contained. [05:09] the default firefox theme uses the system GTK colors, it just has its own icons. [05:10] Also, they're not just icons - themes cover other aspects of the appearance, iirc. [05:10] yeah, I think we're talking about icons right now. We settled on a murrina GTK theme right? [05:11] Great then we have to add the murrina configurator as well [05:11] That will be a big success [05:12] Everyone is going to like it [05:12] is the Murrina engine package in the repos yet? [05:12] I think so [05:13] not here in Edgy, I have to hunt it down on the web. [05:13] I find the author web site for you [05:14] It's in the Feisty repos. [05:14] I use it already, it's ok jmak. [05:15] I'll be back in a sec [05:15] Just testing Herd 5 :P [05:15] There was en error burning it [05:15] <_MMA_> Ubuntu Studio also uses murrine for its engine. We got it in. [05:16] cool then [05:16] the murrine engine allows easy customization of the theme, right? [05:16] <_MMA_> .51 is in. [05:16] of murrine-based themes. . . [05:17] <_MMA_> With the configurator. [05:17] is the configurator in the repos? [05:17] Yes, you need the configurator [05:17] haven't tried the configurator yet. [05:17] <_MMA_> I havnt messed with that much myself. [05:17] <_MMA_> I did ours by hand. [05:17] <_MMA_> I dont think thats in the repos. [05:17] The confugurator is not in the repo you can get it from the authour website === j1mc answers his own question: no. :) === _MMA_ looks at the new queue. [05:18] Thsi is the author web site [05:18] http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine/download.php [05:19] Jmak: do you think it would be a good idea to include the configurator for feisty+1? [05:19] _MMA_: do we have Murrine themes in the repos [05:19] ? [05:19] In feisty [05:19] <_MMA_> gpocentek: I think there are a couple. [05:19] none [05:20] <_MMA_> Our art packages didnt make the freeze. :( [05:20] there is OranSun in feisty [05:20] TheSheep_ is correct, we just have the engine. [05:20] but I think it's in a separate repositorium [05:20] _MMA_ your art package? [05:20] <_MMA_> j1mc: This is OT but all the Ubuntu Studio art. [05:21] <_MMA_> We struggled a little with the packages. [05:21] _MMA_: :( [05:21] <_MMA_> We'll host it on the site. [05:21] <_MMA_> All the apps made it though. [05:21] well, any other art-related subjects for anyone? [05:22] any other topics? :) [05:23] anything that anyone would like to bring up? [05:23] web site? [05:23] TheSheep_: yes? [05:23] j1mc: actually, no, it's good :) [05:24] vincent has been helpful in providing updates about my ISO tests. :) to me, it meeds cody's criteria that it be clean, warm, and fuzzy. :) === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:25] anything else? [05:26] i will get a few notes up on the meeting wiki about our conversations here today. [05:26] anyone know how / if these meetings are logged? === j1mc didn't log anything from irssi. [05:27] there is ubuntulog here... [05:28] !ubuntulog [05:28] TheSheep_: can you access it? or let me know how to? [05:29] j1mc: no, no idea where it logs :/ [05:29] hehe ok. hmmm... [05:30] i see a link up at the top here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ [05:30] /msg ubotu logs [05:30] thanks, all. 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