[12:01] <beast_> anyone have java6?
[12:01] <AndyCR> sethk: sorry, thats what I meant
[12:01] <sethk> Zenerek, that's the default, so the question is kind of unclear.
[12:01] <Zenerek> alright hold on while i restate my question
[12:02] <eck> AndyCR: also use apt-get build-dep if you want to actually build the package
[12:02] <eck> otherwise you will be missing a ton of dev packages
[12:02] <etchris> When installing the nvidia drivers,  I dont see the software preferences box thats supposed to come up
[12:02] <etchris> ?
[12:02] <hejsa> Flannel: Apache problem again... Apache2 is running and working now, but php isn't working. php is installed and a2enmod php5 says it's enabled and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf got the right file indexes... and i have restarted the apache2 server a couple of times... also when apache2 isn't running i got no other webservers answering... what could the problem be ?
[12:02] <AndyCR> eck: thanks. and if I modify it, just make install? or do I have to do something to tell apt that I modified it so it wont steamroll it with an update?
[12:02] <beast_> please does anyone have java6?
[12:03] <eck> AndyCR: iirc the make file will build a .deb
[12:03] <AndyCR> nice, thats great! thanks
[12:03] <sethk> hejsa, I don't know what you mean about other webservers.  apache2 is your web server (obviously) so what are you expecting to answer?
[12:03] <AndyCR> i moved to gentoo partly because i couldnt get source, and didnt think to ask... :/ now im sick of recompiling everything
[12:03] <jrib> beast_: ask your real question
[12:04] <eck> AndyCR: oh, you have to use dpkg-buildpackage
[12:04] <Flannel> sethk: he wants to know why PHP isn't being processed.  hejsa, it happens.  We see it ocassionally.  I... don't remember the fix at the moment.
[12:04] <sethk> AndyCR, source is available for everything.  All the distros are built from the same source, except for a tiny bit that might be different distro to distro
[12:04] <sethk> Flannel, I know, but he also asked a second question, which I was addressing
[12:04] <beast_> ok how did you download java6 because i've tryed various methods and wanted to see what actally worked for people
[12:04] <AndyCR> eck: thanks
[12:04] <Flannel> hejsa: you may want to try asking in #apache.  But I'll keep trying
[12:04] <sethk> Flannel, you also have to tell apache that .php is an allowable executable file name
[12:04] <jrib> beast_: use sun-java6-jre from edgy-backports
[12:04] <eck> AndyCR: here's one I did a while ago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10689/
[12:04] <Flannel> sethk: That's in php5.conf
[12:04] <sethk> Flannel, you also have to tell apache that the directory in which a .php file lives is allowable for executable files.
[12:05] <sethk> Flannel, so?  did I say it isn't in php5.conf?
[12:05] <eck> I keep notes :-)
[12:05] <beast_> jrib: i have dapper and would it be alright to get it from synaptic?
[12:05] <AndyCR> sethk: yeah, but if im using edgy, and it uses a certain version of an app, and the version the project site for that app releases is much more up-to-date, chances are ill need a bunch of extra newer libraries as well
[12:05] <Dato> fdhfj
[12:05] <Dato> this is a chat?
[12:05] <somniis> Dato: yep :)
[12:05] <jrib> beast_: java6 is not packaged for dapper
[12:05] <dager> Dato: of course :)
[12:05] <sethk> AndyCR, oh, sure, it's much more practical to use the distro's source packages.  But the availability of source does not differ from distro to distro.
[12:06] <Flannel> jrib: its in backports
[12:06] <sethk> AndyCR, as I think you said you discovered.
[12:06] <sethk> Dato, I don't know, is it?
[12:06] <beast_> jrib: i see it here in synaptic
[12:06] <sethk> AndyCR, I answered before I read the whole thing.  :)
[12:06] <jrib> Flannel: for dapper?  packages.ubuntu.com doesn't show it
[12:07] <bubb> bye everyone
[12:07] <jrib> beast_: ok then install it, but to quell my curiousity can you show me the output of this command:  apt-cache policy sun-java6-jre
[12:07] <Zenerek> ok since i am not sure what part you did not get i will explain, I created a new user for someone, i want them to be able to use wvdial to go online, i have given them every permission except admin and it seems that to use wvdial you need admin permissions
[12:08] <jrib> Flannel: ah you are right, I just typed it wrong :)  (and ubotu doesn't search dapper-backports)
[12:08] <beast_> jrib: sun-java6-jre:
[12:08] <beast_>   Installed: (none)
[12:08] <beast_>   Candidate: 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1
[12:08] <beast_>   Version table:
[12:08] <beast_>      6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1 0
[12:08] <beast_>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Packages
[12:08] <erUSUL> Zenerek: add them to the dial group
[12:08] <beast_>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:08] <dager> Zenerek: dial group
[12:08] <jrib> beast_: thanks, that should be ok.  In the future please use a pastebin for large pastes
[12:08] <eck> beast_: please don't flood
[12:08] <sethk> Zenerek, oh.  you need the SUID feature.  that allows the program, the dialer in this case, to execute with admin privileges, even though started by a normal (non-admin) user
[12:09] <AndyCR> ah
[12:09] <AndyCR> thanks again!
[12:09] <beast_> sorry whats a pastebin?
[12:09] <cmatheso2> i'm writing a upstart script on feisty, but my pre-start script doesn't seem to get executed... how can i debug this?
[12:09] <jrib> !pastebin | beast_
[12:09] <ubotu> beast_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <sethk> Zenerek, try the group suggestion first, it's simpler
[12:09] <beast_> jrib: just the jdk and bin should be ok right?
[12:09] <Zenerek> ok i will try and thanks
[12:09] <spinster> hi, i'm running linux ubuntu and i want to download and install some stuffs to i watch movies/dvd/mp3/mpeg/ can somebody help me ?
[12:09] <ep2011> wow, im getting pretty mad now...
[12:10] <jrib> beast_: yes, unless you also want the plugin for firefox
[12:10] <ep2011> 8 checksums failed
[12:10] <ep2011> this is my 4th time burning
[12:10] <ep2011> low speed... with correct md5
[12:10] <somniis> ep2011: :(
[12:10] <ep2011> Any ideas? :(
[12:10] <spinster> jrib: you helped me one time, and that was a good help can you help me this time ?
[12:10] <eck> ep2011: put the iso on your hard drive and boot off of it with grub (if you already have linux on)
[12:10] <Kronuz> hey, are the nautilus key bindings in some configuration file?
[12:10] <erUSUL> Zenerek: in the graphical front end to groups and users (System>Admin>users and gro..) in the properties of a user you can check "Use modems" as a permision in the third tab
[12:11] <ep2011> I dont have linux, eck
[12:11] <Kronuz> 'cause I want to set the location bar to alt+d
[12:11] <jrib> !restricted | spinster
[12:11] <ubotu> spinster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:11] <AMD> what the correct way to run mythtv front end from a terminal ?
[12:11] <sethk> ep2011, you mean you do md5sum on individual files on the cd, and there is a mismatch for some files?
[12:11] <eck> well then you have to take your chances with burning
[12:11] <spinster> jrib: i know that but look, i need to remove some # from some file i dunno where what to remove can you tell me what to do ?
[12:11] <jrib> spinster: have you read the wiki page?
[12:12] <spinster> jrib: nope wait i will read it now :)
[12:12] <toulouse> whenever i format a partition as ext3 journaled, my file system check fails and then i have to press ctrl-D to continue the boot--why?
[12:12] <ep2011> sethk: I did md5sum on the iso, and then when I checked the disk when running it it found 8 errors
[12:12] <ep2011> but this time, it acually runs, unlike last time
[12:12] <deek_> Hey guys, when I try starting X it gives me an error about not having the module "wfb". Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[12:12] <sethk> ep2011, you mean the installer's "check cd" thing finds these errors?
[12:12] <ep2011> yes.
[12:13] <sethk> deek_, turn off the frame buffer feature
[12:13] <khaled> how come telinit 3 does not take me to console mode ?
[12:13] <khaled> is it disabled by default ?
[12:13] <sethk> deek_, take it ouf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:13] <ep2011> but sethk, now the live cd runs
[12:13] <deek_> How?
[12:13] <ubuntu> hey ubuntu users. how do you do?
[12:13] <ep2011> but im worried the install will be messed up..
[12:13] <mand0> fantastic, thanks for asking
[12:13] <sethk> khaled, ubuntu has assigned the run levels differently than all the other distros
[12:13] <flyinghippo> Hello.  I have done something very stupid.
[12:13] <mand0> uhoh what ?
[12:13] <eck> ep2011: run the disc check on the CD, maybe the burning software is incorrectly detecting errors
[12:13] <sethk> khaled, it's unfortunate, because the lowest normal run level includes the gui.  You can, of course, stop the gui.
[12:13] <flyinghippo> I installed the Feisty repository software... turns out it was developer software.
[12:13] <somniis> ep2011: do you have another computer to test the install on first?
[12:14] <flyinghippo> Now gnome fails to start.
[12:14] <sethk> flyinghippo, I got married once, can't be any more stupid than that.
[12:14] <mand0> Tis so
[12:14] <ep2011> no somniis
[12:14] <ep2011> and eck, that is the check i did
[12:14] <somniis> ah :(
[12:14] <flyinghippo> Is there a system restore?
[12:14] <dager> flyinghippo: any error logs?
[12:14] <beast_> jrib: i installed it but the java commands in the terminal don't work
[12:14] <ep2011> I don't get why it isnt burning right, I used 2 programs too
[12:14] <ubuntu> what what?
[12:14] <jrib> beast_: what java commands?  WHat errors do you get?
[12:14] <eck> i would just try to install it anyway
[12:14] <mand0> yea, are you getting any errors/problems? or just the developer title scares u ?
[12:14] <jrib> beast_: details are important :)
[12:14] <deek_> sethk, would I comment out Load "vbe"?
[12:15] <eck> do you know what files it thinks are bad?
[12:15] <ep2011> no, it doesnt show me
[12:15] <sethk> deek_, that's the general idea; let me check on the name of the frame buffer feature.
[12:15] <ubuntu> Tis so??
[12:15] <flyinghippo> Dager: I'm sure I could fetch some, but I'm not sure how I could send them.
[12:15] <flyinghippo> I'm currently in nIRC.
[12:15] <eck> ep2011: you could also do network install...
[12:15] <beast_> jrib: java -version and the error is bash:java:command not found
[12:15] <mand0> ubuntu: i said fantastic thanks for asking
[12:15] <ep2011> whats the negatives of installing dapper and upgrading? I have dapper from shipit i got about a year ago
[12:15] <erUSUL> beast_: have you done 'sudo aptdate-alternatives --config java' and choosed sun java?
[12:15] <ubuntu> What do you mean?
[12:15] <mand0> way to pay attention
[12:15] <eck> you'd have to redownload everything though
[12:16] <khaled> sethk: how can stop the GUI? i am using ubuntu on vmware.. gui is taking up too much resource.. i do not want uninstall as i might need it back sometimes
[12:16] <beast_> erUSUL: no
[12:16] <jrib> beast_: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:16] <Lamego> beast_, you don't have java installed
[12:16] <dager> flyinghippo: ah, i see.. do you remember getting any error messages to begin with? or does it just fail to start?
[12:16] <ep2011> eck, I only have wireless internet...
[12:16] <sethk> deek_, I'd have to google for the module name, which you can do as well as I.
[12:16] <flyinghippo> It was actually the GDM that wouldn't start.
[12:16] <eck> ep2011: there's nothing wrong with it, if you have a good dapper disc that's probably the way to go
[12:16] <erUSUL> beast_: if you instaled java do that
[12:16] <sethk> khaled, you can edit the inittab file (in /etc)
[12:16] <eck> ep2011: some wireless drivers are supported -- i did network install with an intel wireless chipset!
[12:16] <erUSUL> !java > beast_
[12:16] <flyinghippo> Perhaps I could wait for feisty to be out, then update everything, and for now, use my laptop?
[12:16] <Toma-> the forums look all messed up since the upgrade :/
[12:16] <mand0> backup the stuff u want to keep and reinstall edgy ?
[12:17] <dager> flyinghippo: im sure its fixable.. did gdm give you any errors?
[12:17] <khaled> sethk: edit which line ?
[12:17] <spinster> jrib: look the error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xine-lib/libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.6_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[12:17] <sethk> khaled, let me look at mine, hold on
[12:17] <flyinghippo> The basic xorg diagnosis thing.
[12:17] <khaled> sethk: thanks
[12:17] <jrib> spinster: sudo apt-get update, then try whatever you were doing again
[12:17] <khaled> sethk: id:2:initdefault:
[12:17] <khaled>  ?
[12:17] <etchris> Anyone know how to install MoBlock?
[12:17] <dager> flyinghippo: when you updated to the fiesty repos.. what did you install?
[12:17] <flyinghippo> Dager: I pretty much updated everything
[12:18] <sethk> khaled, I'm wrong, it's only in inittab when it needs the auto restart.  You need to remove the link to gdm (or kdm or whichever display manager you use) in /etc/rc1.d
[12:18] <dager> flyinghippo: you might be missing part of xorg, modular does that to people :(
[12:18] <spinster> jrib: k
[12:18] <dwhsix> aaargh... I keep not being able to get sound in swiftfox (macromedia flash, e.g. youtube etc)... any suggestions?
[12:18] <jrib> ok
[12:18] <flyinghippo> I'll try things out and come back later.
[12:18] <ep2011> eck, my wireless isn't even showing up in Network Settings
[12:18] <sethk> khaled, rc1.d for run level 1, rc2.d for run level 2, etc.
[12:18] <deek_> sethk, according to the nvidia forums wfb should be included in the nvidia drivers. I installed them with envy..
[12:18] <eck> ep2011: yeah, just use the dapper cd then
[12:18] <sethk> deek_, I run nvidia without frame buffer with no problems at all.
[12:18] <dwhsix> other sound (e.g. cd, mp3) is fine
[12:18] <khaled> sethk: so just delete the file ?
[12:18] <etchris> Okay, little help...I installed wine through Add/Remove yet it isnt working, even installed all other packages from synaptic still nothing, any help?
[12:18] <sethk> deek_, you could of course install the missing libraries
[12:19] <khaled> sethk: i guess i am using gdm
[12:19] <sethk> khaled, right.  It's a sym link.
[12:19] <spinster> jrib: don't work that to i install to watch dvd/mp3/mpeb
[12:19] <spinster> jrib: don't work that to i install to watch dvd/mp3/mpeg
[12:19] <deek_> sethk, what's the missing libraries?
[12:19] <Jaguar> etchris: What're you trying to run on wine?
[12:19] <spinster> jrib: sure i need to add or remove some # from some file can you tell me ? please
[12:19] <somniis> ep2011: can you run ethernet to the comp?
[12:19] <sethk> deek_, you mentioned it before, wfb.somethingorother
[12:19] <etchris> Jaguar, the steam install
[12:19] <jrib> spinster: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <spinster> k
[12:20] <sethk> khaled, in /etc/rc1.d, do this:    ls | grep gdm
[12:20] <Jaguar> etchris: I take it you did the entire winecfg thing and have set up your c_drive in your .wine folder?
[12:20] <khaled> sethk: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-03-10 19:19 /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm -> ../init.d/gdm
[12:20] <ubuntu> psi
[12:20] <sethk> khaled, that's the one.
[12:20] <khaled> sethk: would renaming it help ?
[12:20] <etchris> Jaguar, I just did it through the package installer
[12:20] <khaled> sethk what if i want to get back to GUI later?
[12:20] <sethk> khaled, probably, but it's cleaner to just move it to another directory.
[12:20] <spinster> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10691/ here
[12:20] <sethk> khaled, you can always recreate it this way:
[12:20] <spinster> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10691/ here i paste it
[12:20] <deek_> sethk, Okay, thanks!
[12:20] <khaled> sethk: ah thnaks
[12:21] <khaled> sethk thanks
[12:21] <sethk> ln -s  ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[12:21] <sethk> khaled:    ln -s  ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[12:21] <Jaguar> etchris: Ok, there's a few things you need to do now that it's installed. First as your user (not root) run `winecfg`. This will create your user's .wine folder and c_drive folder
[12:21] <ep2011> somniis: no, its on the other side of the house
[12:21] <kingcobra> does anybody know the up down commands for wireless network device
[12:21] <etchris> Jaguar, Just did that
[12:21] <khaled> sethk: rebooting.. hope it works
[12:21] <sethk> khaled, should.
[12:21] <Jaguar> etchris: Ok, good. What version of wine did you install?
[12:22] <ep2011> You guys are sure that upgrading is just as good as installing the 6.10?
[12:22] <etchris> Jaguar, latest one im guessing
[12:22] <ep2011> well, installing 6.06 and then upgrading
[12:22] <etchris> Jaguar, straight off the package installer
[12:22] <spinster> jrib: are you here ?
[12:22] <jrib> spinster: add "universe multiverse" to the end of lines 28 and 29
[12:22] <wyndblade> ep2011: personally I haad no issues with the upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10
[12:22] <Jaguar> etchris: type `wine --version` and let me know.
[12:22] <Kronuz> is there any way I can change the CTRL+L in Nautilus for ALT+D ?
[12:22] <somniis> ep2011: it should be just as good.
[12:22] <spinster> humm ok
[12:22] <Kronuz> (I'm very very used to alt+d
[12:22] <sethk> ep2011, I wouldn't upgrade as part of a new install unless there was absolutely no alternative.
[12:22] <Liam11> Hello, I just have a simple question, does 6.10 Support the Enhanced visual styles? (the cubed workspaces and such)
[12:23] <etchris> Jaguar, 0.9.22-0
[12:23] <Flannel> Liam11: #ubuntu-effects, and yes.
[12:23] <wyndblade> ep2011: but I did a fresh install of 6.06 and had nothing else installed
[12:23] <khaled> Liam11: just install xgl
[12:23] <etchris> Jaguar, Version: 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (wine)
[12:23] <eck> Kronuz: _maybe_ in gconf-editor, but i wouldn't bet on it
[12:23] <Kronuz> also, in Firefox, CTRL+E is not working (as to go to the search bar)
[12:23] <ep2011> sethk: Is burning 4 disks all with errors but the right md5 with the iso no alternative?
[12:23] <spinster> jrib: where to add it ?
[12:23] <ep2011> with a speed of 3x
[12:23] <spinster> jrib: give me example
[12:23] <spinster> aha to the end
[12:23] <spinster> ok
[12:23] <Liam11> Thanks flannel and khaled!
[12:23] <Kronuz> eck, I looked there but I couldn't find it... where would it be?
[12:23] <jrib> spinster: yes
[12:23] <sethk> ep2011, I'd expect it to burn errors with 6.06 also.
[12:23] <eck> Kronuz: um, maybe under apps > metacity ?
[12:24] <ep2011> I have the one from shipit
[12:24] <sethk> ep2011, unless you mean you already have a good 6.06 cd
[12:24] <spinster> jrib: okay i add it and ?
[12:24] <eck> or else in the nautilus settings
[12:24] <jrib> spinster: sudo apt-get update
[12:24] <Jaguar> etchris: You might want to consider changing the repository you update from to the official winehq one before you start - http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[12:24] <sethk> ep2011, oh, ok.  You can try it, certainly.
[12:24] <ep2011> im assuming the shipit was good, but I would of course test it
[12:24] <spinster> jrib: look
[12:24] <spinster> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please, check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[12:24] <Kronuz> eck, also, do you know where gconf files are kept 'cause I removed one folder in ~/.gconf but it's still showing at gconf-editor
[12:24] <Jaguar> etchris: But that's at your discretion
[12:24] <spinster> i can't save it
[12:24] <etchris> Jaguar, Would you do it?
[12:24] <Alonea> Ok, now that I got my video card working again, I am unable to shutdown, just like before. It closes all the programs and the screen goes black and stays there.
[12:24] <jrib> spinster: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <ep2011> the live cd seems fine even with the errors :\
[12:24] <eck> Kronuz: if you remove it then when the files are neededthey're just created with the default settings
[12:24] <etchris> Jaguar, I dont have a clue what it does anyhows, but would you reccommend?
[12:24] <spinster> k
[12:25] <eck> Kronuz: some settings are also in ~/.gnome2
[12:25] <Alonea> This is after installing the binary drivers so I could get 3d accel. with my ati card
[12:25] <sethk> ep2011, then give the install a try.  nothing to lose, really.  odds are you can get away with it, and fix any anomolies later.
[12:25] <khaled> sethk: cool, it started to console.. but one more issue.. it uses the GUI loader (the one with ubuntu, and status scrolling).. is it possible to take that off as well ?
[12:25] <Jaguar> etchris: I'd recommend following the instructions on the page I sent you (first uninstall the version of wine you just installed and remove .wine from your home folder).
[12:25] <somniis> ep2011: if the livecd runs, it might be ok to try
[12:26] <Kronuz> eck, is it possible to bind the alt+d to the ctrl+l ?
[12:26] <Kronuz> using perhaps xbindkey
[12:26] <spinster> jrib: i type sudo apt-get update and now ?
[12:26] <sethk> khaled, it is, but I'd have to look up how to do it.  It will be in an init file in /etc, but not in rc1.d.
[12:26] <jrib> spinster: yes
[12:26] <eck> Kronuz: i am not sure, you might try asking on the gnome irc network (irc.gnome.org)
[12:26] <ep2011> sethk, what im worried about is it messing up my windows install
[12:26] <spinster> jrib: and now what to do ? now i can watch ?
[12:26] <Jaguar> etchris: That way you'll be fully updated. Then you can check out - http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554 which will give you the low down on how well Wine supports Steam. Luckily for you it has a superb rating.
[12:26] <somniis> ep2011: do you have the Windows cd to reinstall just in case?
[12:26] <khaled> sethk: oh, thanks, i look it up sometime.. i can live with this for now
[12:26] <sethk> ep2011, any such risk is minimal.
[12:26] <ep2011> no, just the hp restore disk
[12:26] <khaled> sethk: thanks a lot
[12:26] <jrib> spinster: no, now follow the wiki page ubotu told you about
[12:27] <etchris> Jaguar, how do i delete the .wine from home pal?
[12:27] <spinster> jrib: ok
[12:27] <etchris> Jaguar, I know it does :)
[12:27] <andre_pl> this may sound crazy, but when I load ipw3945, my keyboard stop responding and cpu shoots up to 50%
[12:27] <spinster> jrib: can you tell me the website again, i type /clear sorry about that
[12:27] <sethk> etchris, rm -fr $HOME/.wine
[12:27] <jrib> !restricted > spinster
[12:27] <etchris> Thanks sethl :)
[12:27] <xtknight> andre_pl, do you have a wireless kb?
[12:27] <sethk> etchris, be careful with rm -rf, it's dangerous for obvious reasons.
[12:27] <Jaguar> etchris: How do you want to delete it, command line or GUI? :)
[12:27] <kingcobra> gyaresu: hey are you here i cant remember what the up and down commands for wifi devices are
[12:27] <eck> andre_pl: weird -- open up a console with top so you can see what is happening
[12:27] <spinster> jrib: there have 3 website so what website to i read it ?
[12:28] <etchris> Jaguar, Command
[12:28] <andre_pl> xtknight: no.itsa laptop
[12:28] <jrib> spinster: start with the first one
[12:28] <spinster> jrib: ok
[12:28] <xtknight> andre_pl, what kind of cpu load?  i/o (disk, dark blue) or processing (light blue)?  you can see the different kinds of cpu load via gnome-system-monitor
[12:28] <rogue780> if I install the current Feisty release now...will I have to completely reinstall it on the official release? or will I be able to upgrade via apt?
[12:28] <kingcobra> jrib cud u help me with wifi rob
[12:28] <Jaguar> etchris: Ok, and like he said, be careful with rm commands, but open a terminal and type `rm -r ~/.wine`
[12:28] <andre_pl> conincidentally enough the computer im using niw has a broken spacebar\
[12:29] <andre_pl> im pasting these\
[12:29] <xtknight> rogue780, dist-upgrade should be able to get you to the final version reliably, as far as i know at least
[12:29] <ep2011> Okay, my last question for awile: any reccomendations for windows backup tool? :\
[12:29] <Jaguar> etchris: That'll delete everything created when you ran `winecfg`
[12:29] <rogue780> xtknight, night
[12:29] <etchris> Jaguar, Done thanks, now ill follow website?
[12:29] <rogue780> xtknight, err...thanks
[12:29] <andre_pl> isThisTooAnnoying
[12:29] <bruenig> ep2011, files or the OS
[12:29] <eck> andre_pl: do you have sshd running?
[12:29] <rogue780> xtknight, not sure why I typed night...brain fart. but thanks
[12:29] <jrib> !wifi | kingcobra , I've never setup wifi, but ehre are the docs
[12:29] <ubotu> kingcobra , I've never setup wifi, but ehre are the docs: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:29] <xtknight> rogue780, heh no problem
[12:29] <eck> andre_pl: ifyou do you can ssh in and use another computer to investigate
[12:30] <andre_pl> eck: ill_try
[12:30] <xtknight> rogue780, ask in #ubuntu+1 to be sure
[12:30] <ep2011> bruenig: Either, really, I don't really care
[12:30] <andre_pl> hard_with_no_space
[12:30] <andre_pl> lol
[12:30] <bruenig> ep2011, well I backed up my files and just burned them onto dvds
[12:30] <Jaguar> etchris: Yup, the first page I sent you is how to update where you get your wine packages from so you can be up-to-date directly from winehq.org, and the second site shows how Steam runs on Wine and also has instructions on how to get it working.
[12:30] <rogue780> and while I'm on the topic...feisty's support for the turion dual core processor? anyone know anything about that? I've heard that there are issues with the core duo but...
[12:30] <xtknight> andre_pl, hm how did you spacebar break?  damage to the kb circuit?  maybe it's related?
[12:30] <rogue780> xtknight, will do thanks
[12:30] <ep2011> I guess ill just do that.
[12:30] <ep2011> Thank you everybody.
[12:30] <andre_pl> xtknight: different_computer
[12:30] <etchris> Jaguar, Can you post me the second one again? didnt see that
[12:31] <spinster> jrib: i select Other but i can't find package with name: Ubuntu restricted extras package
[12:31] <xtknight> andre_pl, oh. hmm well check the cpu thing
[12:31] <somniis> ep2011: good luck :)
[12:31] <sethk> andre_pl, it'shardtounderstandthingswhentypedonakeyboardwithnospacekey
[12:31] <spinster> jrib: so ?
[12:31] <jrib> spinster: I don't know what youa referring to
[12:31] <Jaguar> etchris: Sure, this is to the AppDB WineHQ Steam entry, it's very helpful - http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[12:31] <bruenig> spinster, there is no ubuntu restricted extras packages, they are bringing that out in feisty iirc for all in one codec install
[12:31] <etchris> Jaguar, Thank you soo much :)
[12:31] <fatlip> No package 'gnome-vfs-2.0' found -- where is PKG_CONFIG_PATH supposed to be set to?
[12:31] <Jaguar> etchris: Not a problem.
[12:31] <rogue780> or does anyone have comments on edgy's laptop usability? I've been thinking about putting it on my acer aspire 5100
[12:32] <eck> fatlip: do you have the dev libraries?
[12:32] <spinster> bruenig: so what is the name on the file ?
[12:32] <fatlip> i guess not then
[12:32] <beast_> when i try to open eclipse, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10693/
[12:32] <xtknight> fatlip,  /usr/lib/pkgconfig/  generally on debian/ubuntu
[12:32] <jrib> heh
[12:32] <andre_pl> xtknight: the_irony_was_incredible._i_was_coming_to_ask_about_the_keyboard_ lockup_thing_and_the_batteries_died_in_the_wireless_ and_all_thats_left_is_this_garb
[12:32] <ClinicalMistake> rogue780: I installed it on my sony, and most everything seems to work okay
[12:32] <bruenig> spinster, yeah don't know what that last question means, what I mean by my statement is that you can't get those packages in edgy
[12:32] <crimsun> fatlip: install libgnomevfs2-dev
[12:32] <fatlip> i guess i dont have the dev packages
[12:32] <fatlip> k
[12:32] <rogue780> ClinicalMistake, thanks
[12:32] <spinster> bruenig: so i can't watch movie ?
[12:32] <xtknight> andre_pl, hrmm??
[12:33] <bruenig> spinster, you can, but you need to install the proper codecs another way than with that package
[12:33] <rogue780> I did try installing edgy on my aspire 5100 once, but it hung at the disk partition section. has anyone else experienced this?
[12:33] <spinster> bruenig: so please can you help me ? where to go to install that codecs ?
[12:33] <spinster> a
[12:33] <rogue780> would the alternate install maybe fix that?
[12:33] <ClinicalMistake> rogue780: Im having some troubles with an external moniter, but I believe there is a fix on the forums for it.  I need to mess around with xorg.conf some more
[12:33] <bruenig> !codecs | spinster
[12:33] <ubotu> spinster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:33] <bruenig> rogue780, probably would
[12:33] <spinster> bruenig: to i write this in term: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui ???? a ?
[12:34] <beast_> when i try to open eclipse, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10693/
[12:34] <julioh> h4x0rs
[12:34] <bruenig> spinster, yeah assuming you have the right repositories enabled
[12:34] <mojo> i am having problems getting tftpd-hpa daemon to run.  whether started by inetd or stand-alone, it reports to syslog that it can't grab it's port because it's in use.  how can i tell what is using it's port? (69)
[12:34] <spinster> k
[12:34] <eck> mojo: lsof -i
[12:34] <spinster> ogle-gui is already the newest version.
[12:34] <spinster> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 66 not upgraded.
[12:34] <spinster> :S ?
[12:34] <bruenig> spinster, wow you need to upgrade some stuff
[12:34] <xtknight> mojo, `netstat -nap` should
[12:34] <mojo> eck: thx will try that
[12:35] <spinster> bruenig: so what stuffs ?
[12:35] <bruenig> spinster, sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:35] <Zenerek> hey you guys still here?
[12:35] <eck> xtknight: but that won't show the application that is bound to the port, will it?
[12:35] <ClinicalMistake> spinster: have you tried clicking mark all upgrades?
[12:35] <sethk> mojo, probably an inet daemon is using it.  do this:    sudo netstat -ap | grep tftp
[12:35] <spinster> bruenig: k
[12:35] <Helmi> good evening - any php developers around?
[12:35] <fatlip> okay well ig ot rid of most of the errors.. which package is this: No package 'gnome-desktop-2.0' found
[12:35] <xtknight> eck, well, shows the pid of it (-p parm)
[12:35] <fatlip> i treid gnome-desktop2-dev
[12:35] <fatlip> doesnt exist :)
[12:35] <xtknight> eck, oh also showas program name (format: pid/program)
[12:36] <jrib> fatlip: what are you compiling?
[12:36] <fatlip> affinity
[12:36] <bruenig> fatlip, perhaps libgnome-desktop-dev
[12:36] <eck> aha
[12:36] <fatlip> oh libgnome ;) thanks ya
[12:36] <sethk> fatlip, in synaptic, use the search function and enter gnome-desktop.  it will show you all the packages with gnome-desktop as part of the name
[12:36] <mojo> sethk: it says inetutils-ine is using it
[12:36] <eck> fatlip: if there is a package for whatever you are compiling, try apt-get build-dep package_name
[12:36] <eck> that will grab all of the dependencies
[12:36] <etchris> Jaguar, How do i go about installing the Tahoma font into ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts?
[12:37] <bruenig> etchris, get the tohama font and move it into that directory
[12:37] <mojo> sethk: what is that?  is it the inetd?
[12:37] <esaym> If an app is backported from say edgy to dapper, will dapper automatically update to the backported app??
[12:37] <sethk> mojo, ok, we have to find the configuration for that, and tell it not to handle incoming tftp connections.  (Or, configure it to run the tftp daemon you want to use)
[12:37] <etchris> bruenig, how do i open that directory to view it though?
[12:37] <bruenig> esaym, when it does its periodic updating yes
[12:37] <xpoint> i got my su brokken in someway so "su root" and "sudo apt-get update" gets permission denied
[12:37] <bruenig> etchris, you don't need to, just mv it into that directory
[12:37] <xtknight> xpoint, use single user mode (recovery mode) at bootup
[12:38] <sethk> mojo, it's clearly a version of inetd, but I'm not sure which one.  Neither inetd nor xinetd uses that name.  But I'm a rev back on the machine where I run the tftp server, so the name may have changed.
[12:38] <Jaguar> etchris: If you have a Windows install you can bring it over from WINDOWS\Fonts
[12:38] <xtknight> xpoint, and then you may be able to add your user back to admin or fix a sudo executable problem
[12:38] <esaym> bruenig:  what do you mean by "periodic updating"?
[12:38] <jinho> wat's the command to update to a newer kernel?
[12:38] <etchris> Jaguar, nope i havent, how do i go about placing it in that folder?
[12:38] <bruenig> etchris, but to answer the question, go to ~ and then press ctrl + h and then find .wine and go from there, or you can do "nautilus ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts" in the terminal
[12:38] <mojo> sethk: i want it to use the tftpd-hpa server, which is invoked by /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
[12:38] <xtknight> jinho, it should be automatic with all your other updates
[12:38] <dfcarney> Has anyone had any success setting up TwinView (dual-head display for nVidia cards) under Edgy?  AFAICT, I've set up everything properly (according to Xorg.log), but my secondary display doesn't turn on.
[12:38] <Jaguar> etchris: just use the `cp` command.
[12:38] <xtknight> jinho, if you want a newer kernel than is in the repositories, you must compile it yourself
[12:38] <sethk> mojo, yes, I know, and on my box I removed it from inetd.  I'm just not sure of the name of the configuration file associated with that particular version of inetd
[12:38] <bruenig> esaym, well you realize that the update manager does not just automatically pop up when there is an update available, it runs via a cron job every once in a while and looks for updates and then pops up if it finds one
[12:39] <esaym> oh ok thats what you meant.  I use kubuntu.  It checks at every log in I think
[12:39] <mojo> sethk: i woulda thunk /etc/inetd.conf because that is where dpkg-reconfigure configures it
[12:39] <bruenig> esaym, I am sure it checks more often than that
[12:39] <jinho> xtknight- what's the newest kernel then?
[12:39] <xtknight> jinho, for Edgy?  2.6.17-11
[12:40] <esaym> bruenig: thanks for the info
[12:40] <Zenerek> ok so my problem had been giving another usder the permission to use wvdial without giving admin rights, it was suggested i put him in the dialup group, it work, now i have another problem which is that user can't run firestarter, and since a user can only be in one group... ideas?
[12:40] <xtknight> !info linux-kernel-genreic
[12:40] <ubotu> Package linux-kernel-genreic does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:40] <sethk> mojo, indeed.  so it's normal old inetd.  On my netstat -ap I see inetd, which is why I was confused by the name you found in the netstat output
[12:40] <xtknight> !info linux-kernel-generic
[12:40] <ubotu> Package linux-kernel-generic does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:40] <etchris> Jaguar, It doesnt even recognise .exe files?
[12:40] <etchris> :S
[12:40] <bruenig> !info linux-image-generic
[12:40] <{NmE}> Anyone here got Steam up and running on their box?
[12:40] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:40] <xtknight> ah thanks
[12:41] <eternalswd> I'm having a problem with wireshark not detecting either of my ethernet connections on edgy.  Any ideas?
[12:41] <mojo> sethk: i had it configured to have inetd start it, but thinking it wasn't doing anything i could find in ps or in the syslog i dpkg-reconfigured it to standalone... perhaps i need to restart inetd
[12:41] <xtknight> eternalswd, i think you have to run it as sudo
[12:41] <sethk> mojo, you definitely need to restart inetd if you enable or disable a type of server for inetd
[12:42] <sethk> mojo, remember that ps will only show the daemon running (when it is started by inetd) when a connection exists
[12:42] <eternalswd> xtknight, thanks, that was it
[12:42] <Jaguar> etchris: You must .exe's with the Wine command, it's preferable that you drop the .exe into your drive_c folder and run `wine c:\\installer.exe`, installer being the name of the executable.
[12:42] <mojo> sethk: okay now netstat is not claiming anything listening on the port... let me try to start the daemon stand-alone...
[12:42] <mojo> sethk: yeah, i figured that.
[12:42] <mojo> sethk: does inetd log somewhere?
[12:42] <sethk> mojo, it'll work.  Or, at least, you'll get a different error.  :)
[12:42] <sethk> mojo, I believe to syslog.  It's probably configurable.
[12:43] <beast_> jrib: i found the problem. The eclipse version in the repos is a bit old and isn't compatible with java 6. I downloaded  1.5 and changed the default and it works perfect :D
[12:43] <etchris> Jaguar, get my PM?
[12:43] <jrib> beast_: ah, great
[12:43] <beast_> thank you to everyone who helped me
[12:43] <cobelloy> hi, I installed dapper server on an old imac, then apt-get indtalled icewm icewm-common and xdm but I dont know how to start it up
[12:43] <beast_> you guys are great
[12:43] <Jaguar> etchris: Not seeing it.
[12:43] <cobelloy> does xorg install as a dependancy of icewm?
[12:43] <cobelloy> how do I configure it?
[12:44] <etchris> Jaguar, Argh
[12:44] <{NmE}> Can anyone help me with dual monitors on an ATI 9600 system?
[12:44] <xtknight> mojo, you are setting up a tftpd right?  this may help http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478
[12:44] <Pelo> nme try looking it up in the forum
[12:45] <etchris> Jaguar, how do i navigate to my wine folder to drop the exe in there?
[12:45] <Jaguar> etchris: I opened a dialog to you, I don't know if I did that properly, this is a new IRC client for me :/
[12:45] <mojo> xtknight: yep, i am trying to netboot a device but it repeatedly times out waiting for tftp packet (the device)
[12:46] <etchris> Jaguar, how do i navigate to my wine folder to drop the exe in there?
[12:46] <bafoc> mojo: check out this link - http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/ubuntu_pxe.html
[12:46] <spinster> bruenig: its 51% i must wait to be 100 ? and then to i again type that command ?
[12:46] <somniis> would anyone perhaps know why a cd drive would keep opening and closing by itself?
[12:46] <bruenig> spinster, sure
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> WHICH ubunto to replace VISTA?
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> Sick of Vista
[12:46] <spinster> bruenig: okay, i'll wait
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> Sick of MS
[12:46] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: any
[12:46] <Jaguar> etchris: In your home directory is a hidden folder named .wine, inside of that folder is the dosdevices folder, drive_C folder, and registry files, in the drive_c folder is where you drop the executable (at at least that's what I do, you should be able to just run it with `wine /path/to/exe/installer.exe`)
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> Kubunto?
[12:46] <Pelo> somniis,  your computer is being haunted by XP and it won't let go
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> or Ubunot?
[12:46] <{NmE}> Can anyone help me with dual monitors on an ATI 9600 system?
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> K or U?
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> Kevlar_Soul: Ubuntu 6.10 isnt bad, i run it on my laptop
[12:47] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-head system?
[12:47] <somniis> Pelo: lol the computer I am referring to has XP on it :P
[12:47] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: they'd both work.  Depending on what you like.
[12:47] <q_> how can i share my internet connection with a cross-over cable,  one desktop and one laptop, both with ubuntu-edgy ?
[12:47] <cobelloy> Kevlar_Soul: kde is much more windows like
[12:47] <Jaguar> etchris: Use the `cd` command to navigate to drive_c if you need to on a command line `cd ~/.wine/drive_c`
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> Kubuntu is the lighter version of ubuntu apperently
[12:47] <Kevlar_Soul> Difference?
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> er
[12:47] <bruenig> Kevlar_Soul, there are three main derivatives, ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu, they have essentially the same base, the only difference is the desktop environment, wikipedia gnome, kde and, xfce to see what they look like
[12:47] <bruenig> kubuntu is not lighter
[12:47] <xtknight> xubuntu perhaps
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> KDE rather, not lighter
[12:47] <Pelo> somniis,  seriously,  borked cd probably,  try it on another computer or/and make a new one
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> yeah I was thinking xubuntu
[12:47] <etchris> Jaguar, how can i move the exe in there?
[12:47] <Kevlar_Soul> Which is more GUI like VISTA?
[12:48] <cobelloy> you can dress any of them up for a vista feel
[12:48] <Pelo> Kevlar_Soul,  kde probably
[12:48] <xtknight> Kevlar_Soul, probably kde with beryl
[12:48] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: neither/both
[12:48] <somniis> Pelo: no no, the cd drive itself opens and closes on its own.  no cds are in it
[12:48] <cobelloy> but kde behaves more like windows
[12:48] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: The eye candy can be given to either
[12:48] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-head system?
[12:48] <bruenig> Kevlar_Soul, they can all be modified, kde by default appears to have a bar at the bottom with one menu at the left and a tray at the right
[12:48] <cobelloy> so.... can anyone help me set up xorg?
[12:48] <Pelo> somniis,  oh I get it,  I had that problem a while back,  I never figured it out either,  I re-installed ubuntu and now I am fine
[12:49] <etchris> Jaguar, how can i move the exe in there?
[12:49] <somniis> cobelloy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:49] <cobelloy> aha!
[12:49] <cobelloy> thats what I did last time, I think
[12:49] <Jaguar> etchris: Hmm, I think I should send you linux command line primer :P. The command would be `cp /path/to/exe/installer.exe ~/.wine/drive_c`
[12:49] <somniis> Pelo: ty :)
[12:49] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-head system?
[12:50] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-seat** system?
[12:50] <cobelloy> somniis: it says xserver-xorg not installed, i assumed it was a dependancy of icewm?
[12:50] <xtknight> cheeseboy, what do you mean precisely?
[12:50] <hyper-cool> can anyone help me with an install issue?
[12:50] <hyper-cool> i can only boot in safemode
[12:50] <xtknight> !anyone | hyper-cool
[12:50] <etchris> Jaguar, how do i execute it now?
[12:50] <ubotu> hyper-cool: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:51] <anolis> anyone running feisty?
[12:51] <cheeseboy> xtknight, two keyboards two mice two monitors one pc
[12:51] <Jaguar> etchris: `wine c:\\installer.exe`
[12:51] <xtknight> anolis, yup #ubuntu+1
[12:51] <sethk> hyper-cool, try the text mode install on the alternate cd
[12:51] <brent_> Has it been stated somewhere when the next LTS release will be for Ubuntu?
[12:51] <hyper-cool> i got the install to run
[12:51] <anolis> lol it scared me a few days ago, i did my tri-daily dist-upgrade and it broke my firefox and gnome lol
[12:51] <xtknight> !LTS
[12:51] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:51] <Zenerek> if you like gaming go back to xp...better yet 2k (less crap to eat ram) if not go ubuntu and kde does seem to have more options to change the desktop look
[12:51] <hyper-cool> using text on the alternate
[12:52] <Kevlar_Soul> No functional difference between KDE and GNOME versions?
[12:52] <anolis> but i figured it would be fixed and sure enough i did it again a few days later in kde and i could then install gnome again
[12:52] <brent_> yikes that doesn't help
[12:52] <xtknight> anolis, i actually havent had any breaks
[12:52] <Flannel> hyper-cool: and whats wrong with finishing it with the alternate CD?
[12:52] <hyper-cool> sethk: the problem now is that i can only boot into safemode or i get ACPI exceptions
[12:52] <Zenerek> oh there is also dual boot option
[12:52] <Kevlar_Soul> Thanks
[12:52] <cheeseboy> xtknight, understand?
[12:52] <xtknight> cheeseboy, yup just don't know... sorry
[12:52] <Kevlar_Soul> I can dual boot with Ubunto?
[12:52] <anolis> it was when they were upgrading the gnome to 2.18
[12:52] <sethk> hyper-cool, did you complete the installation?
[12:52] <hyper-cool> I finished installing and am now running native ubuntu
[12:52] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: there are differences, but they're not very concrete differences.
[12:52] <hyper-cool> BUT
[12:52] <xtknight> cheeseboy, youll definitely need modifications to X.org though
[12:52] <anolis> and all the opther dep's were 2.16
[12:52] <xtknight> cheeseboy, at least the xorg config
[12:52] <khaled> how do i find which version of ubuntu i am running ?
[12:52] <Kevlar_Soul> Anything FUnctional?
[12:53] <cheeseboy> ya i know
[12:53] <xtknight> khaled, lsb-release -a
[12:53] <xtknight> khaled, lsb_release -a
[12:53] <cheeseboy> havin trouble with gdm tho
[12:53] <khaled> xtknight thanks
[12:53] <khaled> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[12:53] <khaled> is this too old ?
[12:53] <khaled> i did .. apt-get install make
[12:53] <xtknight> khaled, well it's the latest !LTS but Edgy is out
[12:53] <Zenerek> yeah it's easier to install windows first and then ubunto. when you install ubunto the grub loader takes care of the dual boot for you
[12:53] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-seat system?
[12:54] <hyper-cool> i am running it in safemode. if i use regular mode it freezes [or at least takes more than an hour because thats as long as i waited]  during the fsck
[12:54] <khaled> xtknight for some reason, i have all these beta old packages installed
[12:54] <Flannel> cheeseboy: multiseat?
[12:54] <khaled> its like a mess
[12:54] <Pelo> Zenerek,  windows first , the when you install ubuntu grub gets configured automaticaly
[12:54] <xtknight> khaled, personally im' not sure why anyone would stick with Dapper (well may be better for grandparents etc since they need a rock solid system).
[12:54] <brent_> xtknight: for servers
[12:54] <brent_> that's partly why i need to know when the next LTS will be
[12:54] <xtknight> khaled, old beta what do you mean?
[12:55] <cheeseboy> Flannel, two keyboards two mice two monitors one pc = 2 seperate computers
[12:55] <cheeseboy> kinda
[12:55] <cheeseboy> http://netpatia.blogspot.com/2006/09/multiseat-v-gdm-and-xkb.html
[12:55] <sethk> xtknight, I have servers running happily on dapper and I have absolutely no need to touch them
[12:55] <tiago_deliberali> hi! i'm looking for a handwriting recognition software for my tablet pc... someone has a tablet pc with that???? : )
[12:55] <Zenerek> uh pelo could you say that more clearly
[12:55] <khaled> xtknight i did apt-get install automake
[12:56] <khaled> xtknight and it installed an automake which is pretty old
[12:56] <cheeseboy> Flannel, havin trouble editing  gdm
[12:56] <xtknight> khaled, it would install whatever is it in Dapper repos
[12:56] <woyrz> Need help on Installation of ubuntu
[12:56] <cheeseboy> can you help
[12:56] <bafoc> wow, ubuntu and beryl group tabbing is great
[12:56] <khaled> xtknight and some of the packages were beta, for example.. make
[12:56] <Flannel> cheeseboy: what trouble?
[12:56] <canute> Hi there, im trying to automaticly mount an sshfs. I have got it working however, my problem is that I have to type in the password every single time and its getting pretty anoying. I've tried multiple tutorials on the net (which basicly just says to create a key pair, transfer one and rename it authorized_keys).  Any tips on what might be wrong?
[12:56] <eck> brent_: i think the LTS releases are supposed to be every 3-5 releases, i don't think that the next one has been officially anouned though
[12:56] <xtknight> sethk, servers ya but for general desktop use i think edgy is better, i'm loving feisty atm
[12:56] <Zenerek> hey i'm running dapper here
[12:56] <khaled> xtknight i guess dapper repo is not good for latest dev packages
[12:57] <sethk> tiago_deliberali, see if tealscript is available for you environment
[12:57] <Pelo> Zenerek,  install windows first, that way, when you install ubuntu  the boot menu ( grub) will also find your window installation and add it to the boot menu so you can boot either OS at your leasure
[12:57] <sethk> xtknight, only better if it does something that you need to do that dapper doesn't do.
[12:57] <Pelo> Zenerek,  you are talking about a dual boot system right ?
[12:57] <spinster> bruenig: done is 100% and i type again sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui but still i can't watch movies why ?
[12:57] <bafoc> canute: check out - http://www.math.ualberta.ca/imaging/snfs/passwordless.html
[12:57] <sethk> xtknight, it is a BIG mistake to upgrade only because an upgrade is available
[12:57] <Louey> cheeseboy you wanting to be able to use one montior/keyboard mouse on 2 systems?
[12:57] <hyper-cool> Zenerek, make sure you dont tell it to reformat the windows partition though
[12:57] <cheeseboy> Flannel , i don't understand howto change it
[12:57] <bruenig> spinster, define movie
[12:57] <xtknight> sethk, i'm just someone who always likes the latest stuff.  i use the newest kernels for kvm support and stuff
[12:57] <woyrz> Need help installing ubuntu
[12:57] <spinster> bruenig: the movie is mpeg
[12:57] <cheeseboy> Louey, no
[12:58] <Pelo> woyrz,  can you be a little more specific ?
[12:58] <bruenig> spinster, mpeg should play even without those codecs
[12:58] <somniis> woyrz: please ask a question :)
[12:58] <Flannel> cheeseboy: you open it up in a text editor, 'sudo nano /etc/gdm/gdm.conf' (and, like that page recommends, I'd make a backup too)
[12:58] <spinster> bruenig: mpeg play but DVD can't play
[12:58] <spinster> why ??
[12:58] <woyrz> Cd start the kernel but froze there
[12:58] <bruenig> !dvd | spinster
[12:58] <spinster> mpeg search some codec f.
[12:58] <sethk> xtknight, on a system that isn't critical to your network that may be a good attitude,  But in general it is not, and thus "no reason to use dapper" is 100% wrong.
[12:58] <ubotu> spinster: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:58] <Zenerek> umm pelo that's what i told Kevlar_Soul, it was not a question
[12:58] <cheeseboy> Flannel , i know that i just don't get what to change
[12:59] <Flannel> cheeseboy: That page seems to explain it quite well.  You'll be using Xephyr, whatever that is.
[12:59] <xtknight> sethk, imo 'bobby's home pc' != critical in most cases and the aesthetic/small improvements will mean more to him
[12:59] <hyper-cool> I keep getting ACPI errors during boot and had to boot into safemode to get going. Does anyone know what the deal with ACPI and amd64 ubuntu is?  anyone familiar?
[12:59] <Pelo> Zenerek,  sorry I lost track of the thread
[12:59] <xtknight> sethk, i'd prolly use Debian Sarge for servers
[12:59] <Pelo> woyrz,   a borked cd maybe, try it on another computer
[01:00] <cheeseboy> Flannel, can you pastebin me what xorg confshould look like after edited?
[01:00] <Zenerek> yeah it goes by quick eh
[01:00] <sethk> xtknight, I'm only pointing out that there _are_ reasons to run earlier releases.  They may not apply to you, and they may not apply to most people, but they do exist.
[01:00] <woyrz> i creat 3 different CD
[01:00] <spinster> bruenig: i install that too but still i can't watch :S
[01:00] <somniis> woyrz: have you tried using a different burner?
[01:00] <Flannel> cheeseboy: it's right there on that site.
[01:00] <woyrz> yes
[01:00] <Galga> hi
[01:00] <woyrz> same result
[01:00] <bruenig> spinster, ok ask someone else, if you installed that it should work or your dvd is messed up
[01:00] <cheeseboy> Flannel , not the whole thing
[01:00] <somniis> hmm.. where are you downloading the iso from?
[01:00] <Galga> what is the command to search for a package, like apt-get search ?
[01:00] <spinster> bruenig: look www.mkhost.org i want to buy a shell from there and i can't see the hosts.. bla bla... look check it the website what i need to install to see that things ?
[01:00] <Pelo> woyrz,  there is an alternate install cd ,  command line interface, no live,    try downloading and installing form that
[01:01] <hyper-cool> woyrz have you tried the alternate install?
[01:01] <etchris> Will the Nvidia driver, that the bot advertises, work with Beryl
[01:01] <cheeseboy> i tried puttin it in it didnt work
[01:01] <Flannel> cheeseboy: No, but the section they edited.  Everything else, in theory, is the same as it was
[01:01] <userund> Galga, apt-cache search
[01:01] <Galga> userund thanks
[01:01] <cheeseboy> Flannel, i did something wrong just don't kno what
[01:01] <cheeseboy> i need to see the whole thing
[01:01] <Flannel> cheeseboy: I have no idea how Xephyr works. You might consult it's documentation.  Check your error logs, stuff like that.
[01:01] <spinster> jrib: look
[01:01] <spinster> can somebody give me a WEBSITE To i install download flash player ?
[01:02] <spinster> a
[01:02] <khaled> xtknight would a source.list from edgy work in dapper safely?
[01:02] <Flannel> khaled: no.
[01:02] <spinster> !flashmedia spinster
[01:02] <spinster> is that command ?
[01:02] <Flannel> !flash | spinster
[01:02] <ubotu> spinster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:02] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:02] <spinster> k thx :D
[01:02] <jrib> spinster: it's on the same site as before
[01:02] <woyrz> Yes i try different installs
[01:02] <Galga> i want a package which is in backports repository, how can i get it userund
[01:02] <jrib> !backports | Galga
[01:02] <spinster> jrib: bro look
[01:02] <ubotu> Galga: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:02] <spinster> ogle is already the newest version.
[01:02] <spinster> ogle-gui is already the newest version.
[01:02] <spinster> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[01:02] <spinster> i can't see the www.mkhost.org
[01:02] <spinster> :(
[01:02] <spinster> i need flash player
[01:02] <khaled> Flannel ah
[01:03] <Zenerek> so back to my question,ok so my problem had been giving another usder the permission to use wvdial without giving admin rights, it was suggested i put him in the dialup group, it work, now i have another problem which is that user can't run firestarter, and since a user can only be in one group... ideas?
[01:03] <jrib> spinster: that's ogle, not flash.  Click on the link about "flash" on the wiki
[01:03] <spinster> jrib: what link ?
[01:03] <sethk> Zenerek, a user can be in many groups, as many as you want
[01:03] <xtknight> khaled, no
[01:03] <sethk> Zenerek, man usermod          will show you how to add secondary groups
[01:03] <Zenerek> what?
[01:03] <spinster> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ?
[01:03] <jrib> spinster: you see the table of contents at the top?  Go to "Web" and the "Flash"
[01:03] <jrib> spinster: yes
[01:04] <spinster> ok
[01:04] <sethk> Zenerek, a user has only one primary group, but may join any number of other groups
[01:04] <spinster> jrib: i don't see Flash
[01:04] <sethk> Zenerek, and for this purposes that's just as good as it being his primary group
[01:04] <spinster> jrib: please g ive me example ( give me the website for flash )
[01:04] <jrib> spinster: do you see the table of contents at the top?
[01:04] <Zenerek> ok let me chek it out
[01:04] <sethk> Zenerek, usermod -g sets the primary group,   usermod -G allows you to supply a list of groups
[01:04] <spinster> jrib: yes i see
[01:04] <xtknight> khaled, only time you want to use Edgy list in dapper is to dist-upgrade
[01:04] <spinster> jrib: look
[01:04] <spinster> 5 results of about 2470 pages. (0.07 seconds)
[01:04] <spinster>    1. Firefox2AMD64Flash9Java
[01:04] <spinster>    2. FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:04] <spinster>    3. FlashPlayerStandalone
[01:04] <spinster>    4. RestrictedFormats/Flash
[01:04] <Winball> My mouse lags during quake2, anybody know how to solve this?
[01:05] <spinster>    5. UsbFlashDrives
[01:05] <spinster> what flash ?
[01:05] <jrib> spinster: do not paste here.
[01:05] <spinster> jrib: sorry :(
[01:05] <spinster> so can you tell me what flash ?
[01:05] <spinster> a
[01:05] <xtknight> Winball, mess with the in_mouse cvar maybe?  not sure, but that's the quake3 one
[01:05] <Zenerek> alright i'll check it out
[01:05] <jrib> spinster: click on #4
[01:05] <etchris> Is restarting x the same as logging in and out?
[01:05] <spinster> ok
[01:05] <jrib> etchris: no
[01:06] <etchris> cause ctrl+alt+backspace dont work :O
[01:06] <jrib> etchris: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[01:06] <livingdaylight> hello Peeps
[01:06] <livingdaylight> Q: i have an XP and a Linux. Can they talk and transfer files to one another?
[01:07] <xtknight> livingdaylight, yes if you use certain protocols
[01:07] <sethk> livingdaylight, sure
[01:07] <jrib> !samba | livingdaylight
[01:07] <ubotu> livingdaylight: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:07] <sethk> livingdaylight, there are several ways
[01:07] <sethk> livingdaylight, so tell us a typical situation and we'll tell you what's available
[01:07] <livingdaylight> sethk: the easy way for noob like me :s
[01:07] <canute> Hi there, im trying to automaticly mount an sshfs. I have got it working however, my problem is that I have to type in the password every single time and its getting pretty anoying. I've tried multiple tutorials on the net (which basicly just says to create a key pair, transfer one and rename it authorized_keys).  Any tips on what might be wrong?
[01:08] <Winball> xtknight yeah, I found out what the problem was :) in_dgamouse 0 -> Set to value 1. Thx for the tip!
[01:08] <sethk> livingdaylight, none of them are really hard.  But, do you mean you have linux and xp dual booting on a single machine?  do you have a network with both linux and windows on it?
[01:08] <livingdaylight> sethk: i have the xp on laptop with ntfs filesystem and teh ubuntu (ext3) on desktop
[01:08] <xtknight> Winball, ah ya that's what it was...dga mouse
[01:08] <Winball> :D
[01:08] <sethk> livingdaylight, ok, then samba (as someone already suggested) is probably the thing to use
[01:08] <livingdaylight> yes, jrib intuited samba style
[01:09] <spinster> jrib: Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
[01:09] <spinster> or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): look now what to type there ?
[01:09] <xtknight> livingdaylight, windows uses something called SMB for file sharing.  all you do is share files/printers on the network the conventional way in XP, and then with Samba (linux SMB implementation), it should be able to see the shares from your Windows machine
[01:09] <xtknight> spinster, /usr/lib/firefox
[01:09] <svu_> gnome-settings-daemon cannot connect to dbus. I wonder why?
[01:09] <svu_> "Connection refused"
[01:10] <Sergi0> canute: i use this script http://wiki.openvz.org/Ssh_keys check that page, works great
[01:10] <xtknight> livingdaylight, personally i've had a couple issues with getting samba to reliably work although most of my experiments consisted of WAN (Internet) sharing not LAN (local network) sharing
[01:10] <spinster> FREENODE.COM IS THE BEST SERVER ! :D
[01:11] <canute> Sergi0: i'll try that
[01:11] <scv> dotcom?
[01:11] <delaney> does anyone know how to get a link to the trash folder with an icon on idesk.. or even whre its located on ubuntu so that i might set one up??
[01:12] <xtknight> delaney, well the `nautilus ~/.Trash` command goes to your trash folder afaik
[01:12] <livingdaylight> xtknight: i can install SMB on windows?
[01:12] <xtknight> delaney, hold up that cmd is a bit messy
[01:12] <Sergi0> canute: execute #./script user@host then type password and the ssh keys will be put
[01:12] <sethk> livingdaylight, don't need to
[01:12] <delaney> xtknight,  yeah.. i dont have a .Trash folder in my home directory but i do in fact have a trash..
[01:12] <livingdaylight> sethk: i dunno what to do exactly
[01:12] <sethk> livingdaylight, samba is software that makes a linux box look like a windows box, for use in a windows network
[01:13] <xtknight> livingdaylight, yes, choose to install the File and Printer Sharing.  that installs SMB on Windows
[01:13] <xtknight> livingdaylight, it is a protocol under your network adapter options under Windows
[01:13] <sethk> livingdaylight, after you install samba, and configure it, the windows box will talk to your linux box in the same way one windows box talks to another windows box
[01:13] <livingdaylight> xtknight: where do i find that in windows?
[01:13] <excitemike>  h
[01:13] <mojo> okay i dont' get why this isn't working (tftp).. i have the server listening, even explicitly to 10.1.1.1:69 and i see packets in syslog coming in on br0 (phys eth0) with DPT=69 but my device still times out waiting on tftp packets.. hmph
[01:13] <livingdaylight> sethk: ok, so install samba
[01:13] <livingdaylight> first
[01:13] <xtknight> livingdaylight, control panel->Network Connections.  choose your adapter, right click properties.  make sure the Sharing protocol is listed.
[01:13] <sethk> livingdaylight, right  :)
[01:14] <xtknight> livingdaylight, and also you should disable XP's 'simple sharing' thing , well it gets on my nerves.  that shows up when you right click and goto sharing on a file or printer.  to disalbe simple sharing go in Tools->Folder options
[01:14] <livingdaylight> sethk: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[01:14] <sethk> xtknight, what happens that is undesirable if you don't disable simple sharing?
[01:15] <excitemike> delaney  config editor  then apps then nautilus then desktop tick box
[01:15] <sethk> livingdaylight, that's part of samba, but not all.  that's just the file sharing part
[01:15] <livingdaylight> xtknight: i think i 'm gonna try and set it up from the linux box by setting up samba like sethk and jrib suggest
[01:15] <xtknight> sethk, can't remember exactly but i've never liked it
[01:15] <livingdaylight> sethk: sudo apt-get install samba?
[01:15] <sethk> livingdaylight, in synaptic do a search for all the packages with "samba" in the name
[01:15] <sethk> livingdaylight, that's part of samba, but not all.  that's just the file sharing part
[01:16] <Sergi0> canute: did u try it?
[01:16] <xtknight> livingdaylight, ok sounds good
[01:16] <delaney> excitemike,  taht would be fine and good were i in gnome.  but im not.  im in openbox trying to get a trash icon on the desktop with idesk
[01:16] <canute> Sergi0: yes, but i think i did a mistake when i was copying the script
[01:16] <excitemike> cool
[01:16] <delaney> basically what i figure is i need to know where the folder is.. cause its not ~/.Trash like in nautilus.. (i use thunar)  and then I can make thunar open it
[01:16] <delaney> thunar shows it as Trash:///
[01:16] <delaney> which is a whole lot of nothing from what i can tell
[01:16] <peter77> I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop and have gotten aiglx and beryl to work
[01:16] <xtknight> delaney, `thunar Trash:///` ?
[01:17] <quaal> what is the apt-get install for a terminal services client
[01:17] <delaney> xtknight,  Thunar: Failed to open "Trash:///": The URI "Trash:///" is invalid
[01:17] <quaal> so i can connect from ubuntu to a windows machine
[01:17] <peter77> do I need to install any drivers for my intel graphics chip as I haven't installed any?
[01:17] <xtknight> delaney, that actually works for me better with nautilus.  it opens the shell trash with all the trash related options vs. just the .Trash folder
[01:17] <delaney> and there is my problem ;)
[01:17] <bruenig> delaney, in xubuntu, trash is ~/.local/share/Trash
[01:17] <quaal> oh nevermind
[01:17] <quaal> i already have it
[01:17] <bruenig> delaney, or are you not talking about that
[01:17] <Billious> quall: apt-get install rdesktop
[01:17] <quaal> Billious, thanks
[01:17] <aorith> is there a way to remove gnome and install xfce or its better to make a fresh install?
[01:18] <Zenerek> ok i checked it out, currently the user i was talking about primary group is dialout, i checked and firestarter's group is root, i just want the user to use firestarter along with wvdial,
[01:18] <delaney> bruenig, EXCELLENT
[01:18] <delaney> bruenig,  you found it.. SO GREATFUL thanks.
[01:18] <xtknight> aorith, probably remove ubuntu-desktop and install xubuntu-desktop but a clean install of Xubuntu might be better
[01:18] <Hackmo> hey, anyone know when the latest version of wesnoth will be making it into the ubuntu repositories
[01:18] <xtknight> !info wesnoth
[01:18] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[01:18] <xtknight> Hackmo, it's in universe, i think it only gets updated every 6 mo
[01:18] <aorith> xtknight okay :)
[01:19] <xtknight> aorith, not 100% sure on that though, you could always use the one off the website
[01:19] <Zenerek> i was hoping firestarted had it's own group kinda like me being able to give selective access to wvdial and firestarted
[01:19] <Billious> anyone have an idea how to make edgy's gksudo play nice with dpkg-reconfigure
[01:19] <xtknight> Billious, what do you mean?  you wouldn't use gksudo with dpkg-rec..
[01:19] <bruenig> Billious, dpkg-reconfigure is not graphical...
[01:19] <livingdaylight> sethk: looks like samba is already installed
[01:19] <Billious> it is with -fgnome
[01:19] <xtknight> Billious, huh?
[01:19] <Billious> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -fgnome postfix
[01:20] <sethk> livingdaylight, good, now you just need to configure it.
[01:20] <xtknight> Billious, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -fgnome postfix
[01:20] <Billious> you can choose the dpkg front-end
[01:20] <Zenerek> oops i meant firestarter... damn typos
[01:20] <bruenig> dpkg has a front end? this is the first I am hearing of this
[01:20] <xtknight> Billious, oh hrmm.  well it doesn't work with sudo?  or does it use an ncurses
[01:20] <xtknight> bruenig, i think he means it brings up a gnome config dialog instead of the ncurses typical with dpkg-reconf
[01:21] <livingdaylight> sethk: i don't even know where it is> is ther a gui for it?
[01:21] <Billious> xtnight: i'm running a script that is started from menu, sudo won't prompt for password unless it has a tty
[01:21] <sethk> livingdaylight, there are several.  I use webmin, but the latest ubuntu doesn't ship with webmin.
[01:21] <sethk> livingdaylight, someone here will know
[01:21] <xtknight> Billious, oh so you're adding dpkg-reconf to a menu?
[01:22] <livingdaylight> sethk: i do see webmin in synaptic
[01:22] <Billious> xtknight: something like that
[01:22] <neopsyche> this really sucks.. i get new ubuntu loaded.. and my mouse doesnt work.. so i cant click on the stupid icon
[01:22] <xtknight> Billious, and gksudo doesn't work properly?  it should still execute dpkg-reconf afaik
[01:22] <sethk> livingdaylight, good.  try it, I find it a great help
[01:22] <Billious> i can make the graphical dialog work, however gksudo doesn't let dpkg-reconfigure write configuration files like 'sudo' does
[01:23] <etchris> Can someone explain how i make a desktop cube using beryl please?
[01:23] <Flannel> etchris: #ubuntu-effects
[01:23] <xtknight> Billious, odd.  well if no one here has an idea, try #debian
[01:23] <kwtm> How do I run a bash script every time the computer boots up, whether or not I log on to the GUI desktop environment?
[01:23] <bruenig> kwtm, call it from /etc/rc.local
[01:23] <ijmi> I installed Vista and I can't log into Ubuntu now because Vista automatically boots. How can I resolve this?
[01:24] <Fujitsu> !grub | ijmi
[01:24] <ubotu> ijmi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:24] <kwtm> bruenig: Thanks for the advice.  Will check that out.
[01:24] <andre_pl> so does anyone know how I can map a different key to use for my broken spacebar?
[01:24] <xtknight> Billious, i can't send you PMs because your nick is not registered.  like i say i'm not sure, try #debian
[01:25] <xtknight> andre_pl, google xmodmap perhaps
[01:25] <Billious> thanks xtknight
[01:25] <etchris> Jaguar, Need your help again :)
[01:25] <etchris> Jaguar, If your still there?
[01:26] <Jetfighter> How do I make a folder writeable?
[01:26] <xtknight> Jetfighter, sudo chmod a+w foldername
[01:26] <PedroS> Jetfighter: use the chmod command
[01:26] <andre_pl> xtknight: thanks.. it appears I need to know the keycode of the space, that could be a problem. :P
[01:27] <etchris> How do i move a .exe from my desktop to my wine c drive please?
[01:27] <xtknight> Jetfighter, actually you don't need sudo if your user owns it.  a+w means writable for all users.  likewise u+w for users write, o+w for Others write i think
[01:27] <Madpilot> Anyone familiar with cups-pdf? The PDFs it creates don't actually contain text - you can't cut and paste out of them. Is there a way to get real text out of it?
[01:27] <bruenig> don't forget g+w
[01:27] <xtknight> andre_pl, ASCII code 32 ?
[01:27] <sethk> Madpilot, use one of the pdf viewers:  kghostview, acroread, etc.
[01:28] <Jaguar> etchris: Yeah, I'm partially here :)
[01:28] <andre_pl> xtknight: doesn't go by ascii codes though, they unique to every keyboard.
[01:28] <Madpilot> sethk, I'm creating PDFs from webpages (printing to cups-pdf, that is) and every PDF viewer I've tried won't copy text from them...
[01:28] <xtknight> andre_pl, use xev to grab the keycode for space?
[01:28] <etchris> Jaguar, think you could give me the command to move exes from desktop to c drive again please buddy?
[01:29] <bruenig> etchris, mv ~/Desktop/whatever.exe ~/.wine/drive_c
[01:29] <sethk> Madpilot, oh, that doesn't really produce pdf, pdf is just an interrum format that it uses.
[01:29] <xtknight> andre_pl, state 0x0, keycode 65 (keysym 0x20, space), same_screen YES,
[01:29] <xtknight>     0x20 which is 32 dec...
[01:29] <sethk> Madpilot, the output is specific to the printer
[01:29] <xtknight> andre_pl, well maybe it's 65 for my KB
[01:29] <sethk> Madpilot, do you need to create a pdf from something?  if so, what?
[01:29] <Jaguar> bruenig: Faster typer than I, though I think you were just waiting for an easy one :P
[01:29] <xtknight> andre_pl, i think i use the standard 103 kb or w/e it is, it's probably 65 for most people?
[01:29] <Zenerek> well not one without my own ideas, i came up with a temp idea using gksudo nautilus, i went in and changed to group ownership of firestarter to dialout... now i wonder if it wil work
[01:29] <Madpilot> sethk, I'm not using a printer, I'm using cups-pdf to produce actual PDF files from webpages.
[01:30] <sethk> Madpilot, cups-pdf does not produce pdf.  as you've discovered
[01:30] <sethk> Madpilot, open office writer can produce pdf from html
[01:30] <aaaaaa> hi
[01:30] <aaaaaa> :D
[01:30] <sethk> Madpilot, might be a filter   html2pdf also
[01:30] <Madpilot> sethk, it produces files that the system seems to think are PDF. Can OOo accept URLs to produce PDFs from? (I don't think it can, but...)
[01:31] <mEck0> I can't hear any sound when I try to use optical cable from my laptop (intel hda on-board soundcard). The optical cable is connected from spdif (on laptop) to optical interface on my surround decoder. What could be the problem? After I installed Ubuntu, sound didn
[01:31] <sethk> Madpilot, it would take a bit of scripting, but it wouldn't be terribly hard.
[01:31] <xtknight> mEck0, digital/analog switch in gnome-volume-control Switches tab?
[01:31] <aaaaaa> i`m tried today to dist-upgrade to fiesty from edgy. On amd64 with kernel 2.6.20 splashy won`t work automatically. Any suggestion or config i`m supposed to do in order to let it work? tnx
[01:31] <sethk> Madpilot, what cups produces is too specialized for what you need to do.
[01:31] <elventear> Hello. I have computer whose screen has gone completely blank. I cannot go the console or anything, but I can still SSH to it. Any ideas why this might and what can be done besides rebooting to get the screen/console/X working again?
[01:31] <lufi1> aaaaaa: you mean usplash?
[01:31] <lufi1> aaaaaa: or something else?
[01:31] <aaaaaa> nope, splashy
[01:31] <Madpilot> sethk, does cups-pdf produce PS, then, or what?
[01:32] <xtknight> elventear, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:32] <aaaaaa> it`s in feisty rep splashy
[01:32] <sethk> Madpilot, I'm not certain.  Easy enough to tell, though; name the output xyz.pdf and open it with ghostview
[01:32] <xtknight> !info splashy
[01:32] <ubotu> Package splashy does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:32] <elventear> xtknight: That didn't work
[01:32] <livingdaylight> sethk: webmin is not authenticated?
[01:32] <xtknight> elventear, anything in gdm or X logs?
[01:32] <sethk> Madpilot, there is a ps2pdf, but it doesn't produce acceptable output IMHO
[01:32] <eck> elventear: check your logs to see if there is anything that jumps out at you
[01:32] <livingdaylight> sethk: where do i find it?
[01:33] <sethk> livingdaylight, google for it, it isn't hard to find.
[01:33] <livingdaylight> sethk: it is in synaptic
[01:33] <Jetfighter> I need DB extensions....Where can I get?
[01:33] <Madpilot> sethk, um, have you ever actually *used* cups-pdf? It produces actual PDF files already, you don't have to rename anything or use ghostview. They just don't have copyable text.
[01:33] <Jetfighter> !db extensions
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about db extensions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <sethk> livingdaylight, then why did you ask where to find it?
[01:33] <Jetfighter> !db
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about db - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <Jetfighter> !database
[01:33] <livingdaylight> sethk: but when i type webmin in commandline it is not there
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about database - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <crimsun> Madpilot: if it doesn't produce ponies, it's shite!
[01:33] <livingdaylight> sethk: coz i install it and i don't know where it is
[01:33] <bruenig> !fishing | Jetfighter
[01:33] <Eifersucht> anyone want to help me get my sound working
[01:33] <ubotu> Jetfighter: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:33] <sethk> Madpilot, ok, then I guess you already know your answer.  there is no such thing as producing pdf that can't be copied.
[01:33] <Zenerek> elventear you could also try alt+ctrl+backspace. it's supposed to reset the gui i think (never tried it)
[01:34] <xtknight> Jetfighter, what are DB extensions?  are you compiling something, or what?
[01:34] <elventear> Zenerek: That didn't work either
[01:34] <sethk> Madpilot, and, yes, I've used it, but the pdf it produced was not usable
[01:34] <elventear> CTRL+ALT+F[1-5]  doesn't give me the console either
[01:34] <mEck0> xtknight, it looks like this http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=disablediec958ba0.png (disabled), but when I enable it: http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enablediec958yi8.png , I can't hear any sound either :(
[01:34] <aaaaaa> wait. with splashy i got to append quiet splash vga=XXX or just vga=XXX ?
[01:34] <Madpilot> sethk, shall I email you the PDF that cups-pdf just produced that isn't copyable? Trust me, I've got it open on another desktop...
[01:34] <Eifersucht> Pollywog you here
[01:34] <elventear> That last part is what confuses me
[01:34] <sethk> Madpilot, but not because I couldn't copy it.
[01:34] <Jetfighter> I'm trying to install a forum software.
[01:34] <elventear> The console should be always there, right?
[01:34] <Pollywog> yes
[01:34] <sethk> Madpilot, sure, send it to me, I'll open it here.
[01:34] <sethk> Madpilot, seth@cql.com
[01:34] <kkerwin> Hi. Trying to compile xpertmud, and ld complains with this error: `/usr/local/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl'
[01:34] <mojo> sethk: you know, i am beginning to wonder if tftpd-hpa does not like running on my bridged port setup br0 = 10.1.1.x for both eth0 and eth2, where eth1 = 192.168.1.x (home lan and router to cablemodem)
[01:34] <userund> Madpilot, I've experienced the same thing.  you can only copy a block which comes as an image to the clipboard
[01:35] <Zenerek> that's because it ctrl+alt+f1 for the console
[01:35] <lufis> kkerwin: do you have all dependencies installed?
[01:35] <xtknight> mEck0, hmm i dont know
[01:35] <elventear> Zenerek: +F1 doesn't give anything either
[01:35] <mEck0> okay
[01:35] <xtknight> kkerwin, you need the perl dev library
[01:35] <kkerwin> lufis: Not entirely sure, as it's a source package, but I do have perl installed, which seems to be the problem.
[01:35] <Jetfighter> bruenig
[01:35] <lufis> kkerwin: hm, what app?
[01:35] <Zenerek> oh and alt+f7 to get back to the gui
[01:35] <sethk> mojo, I run it on a machine with multiple ethernet addresses.  You can point it at a particular address, I believe in /etc/default/tftp-hpa
[01:35] <kkerwin> xtknight -- There we go, thanks.
[01:35] <kkerwin> lufis: xpertmud
[01:35] <xtknight> !info libperl-dev | kkerwin
[01:35] <ubotu> kkerwin: libperl-dev: Perl library: development files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1392 kB
[01:35] <lufis> kkerwin: oh, right, heh
[01:35] <livingdaylight> can or would someone like to patiently talk me through setting up Samba? :D
[01:36] <mojo> sethk: i installe the hpa tftp client to test (locally) and it works fine on localhost
[01:36] <elventear> Zenerek: Nothing. Nothing happens. The screen is blank.
[01:36] <Jetfighter> How can I install Database Extensions?
[01:36] <sethk> mojo, try assigning it to a particular address
[01:36] <elventear> Is there a way to restart the tty?
[01:36] <iulian_> hi, I need to make my pc (Ubuntu 6.10 Server) a nat router. Can someoane help me, please?
[01:36] <livingdaylight> i have Samba installed but have no idea where it is or how to configure it :(
[01:36] <elventear> Or something like that?
[01:36] <Zenerek> then you're in trouble my friend
[01:36] <bruenig> Jetfighter, I don't know what that is, but fishing the bot in the channel won't do it
[01:36] <elventear> Zenerek: I still have VNC and SSH
[01:36] <elventear> :)
[01:36] <kkerwin> xtknight and lufis: thanks for the help
[01:36] <sethk> mojo, I use it to do tftp onto an embedded system we are building .
[01:36] <Jetfighter> >.<
[01:36] <Zenerek> don't know hwat to say
[01:36] <elventear> But I don't want to reboot
[01:36] <Jetfighter> I installed lamp....but...
[01:36] <andre_pl> xtknight: got it working, thanks... guess i need some new AAAs
[01:36] <elventear> It's processing some stuff
[01:36] <andre_pl> those things alsted forever
[01:37] <xtknight> elventear, what about the logs..
[01:37] <Jetfighter> Error
[01:37] <Jetfighter> The MyBB Requirements check failed due to the reasons below. MyBB installation cannot continue because you did not meet the MyBB requirements. Please correct the errors below and try again:
[01:37] <Jetfighter>     *
[01:37] <Jetfighter>       MyBB requires one or more suitable database extensions to be installed. Your server reported that none were available.
[01:37] <elventear> It says there is a lock already
[01:37] <elventear> But I've erased them
[01:37] <mojo> sethk: i tried editing /etc/default/tftpd-hpa and adding the -a 10.1.1.1:69 option but it still didn't pick up my device's requests
[01:37] <elventear> And there is nothing running in :0
[01:37] <lufis> kkerwin: look in the readme file in the source tarball and see if you're missing a dependency or something
[01:37] <elventear> AFAIK
[01:37] <mojo> sethk: that is what i'm trying to do too... i have this dev board called EFIKA from a company called Genesi
[01:37] <sethk> mojo, let me look at my config.  give me a few minutes, I have to log into my work server
[01:37] <elventear> xtknight: Still, if X was crashing I should be able to get to the Console, right?
[01:37] <Alonea> Ok, now that I got my video card working again, I am unable to shutdown, just like before. It closes all the programs and the screen goes black and stays there.
[01:37] <mojo> sethk: thank you for being so helpful
[01:37] <aaaaaa> Does anyone know why 2.6.20 on feisty blocks at Configuring net interfaces?
[01:38] <xtknight> elventear, i'd think so
[01:38] <Alonea> This is after installing the binary drivers so I could get 3d accel. with my ati card
[01:38] <Jetfighter> The MyBB Requirements check failed due to the reasons below. MyBB installation cannot continue because you did not meet the MyBB requirements. Please correct the errors below and try again:
[01:38] <Jetfighter>     *
[01:38] <Jetfighter>       MyBB requires one or more suitable database extensions to be installed. Your server reported that none were available.
[01:38] <sethk> mojo, it's definitely usable that way.  give me a couple of minutes; hopefully I can get in through the vpn
[01:38] <Jetfighter> What the...
[01:38] <mojo> xtknight: (and thx to you too)
[01:38] <iulian_> is there someoane that can help me to transform my pc into a router
[01:38] <iulian_> ?
[01:38] <kkerwin> lufis: Ya. Just came up with an error for python now. I'm going to check and see what's going on. Sheesh. I just wish all of these programmers would get with the picture and start submitting .deb packages *evil grin* *duck*
[01:38] <elventear> I'll just wait for it to finish and reboot it
[01:38] <elventear> *sigh*
[01:38] <mojo> sethk: thanks. i was worried my bridge setup cornfuzed it
[01:38] <preaction> iulian_: yes, you can
[01:38] <Madpilot> sethk, email w/ pdf sent
[01:38] <xtknight> mojo, tftp thing?  actually my dad was using tftp for a dev board from Ubuntu too, he got it working evenutually
[01:38] <elventear> Musts be a freak bug
[01:38] <Alonea> The last time someone said something like st acpi=off, but it didnt work
[01:38] <preaction> iulian_: umm... iptables is rather complicated
[01:38] <lufis> kkerwin: :P half the fun of running an app is hunting down all the dependencies and compiling it XD
[01:38] <iulian_> preaction, can you give me some advices?
[01:38] <Eifersucht> iulian do you have a dual nic card ?
[01:38] <sethk> Madpilot, ok, give me a few minutes to look at it.
[01:38] <Zenerek> yes you should i think (i'm still learning myself)
[01:38] <xtknight> mojo, it was for a blackfin lnux
[01:39] <preaction> iulian_: there are some nice scripts available, let me try to find them
[01:39] <iulian_> Eifersucht, yes I have 2 network cards
[01:39] <livingdaylight> Is there a Samba guru in da house, who can patiently talk me through configuring it? :D
[01:39] <sethk> Madpilot, I have to run out with the dog, so give me more like 15 minutes; he's looking dangerous.  :)
[01:39] <shadowhywind_> hay all, when i try instaling the nvidia drivers, from the nvidia webpage, when i startx, I most of the time get a black screen with green vertical lines
[01:39] <kkerwin> lufis: True, yes. But I quit using Gentoo expressly so I didn't have to do that anymore.
[01:39] <lufis> kkerwin: ubuntu has just about everything though in its repos. not a whole lot of hunting necessary, just look for them in synaptic
[01:39] <Madpilot> sethk, np, I'll be around
[01:39] <Pollywog> it's easier to just buy a router and they are probably more energy efficient anyway
[01:39] <livingdaylight> !samba
[01:39] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:39] <Eifersucht>  Pollywog!
[01:39] <sethk> mojo, I have two network cards and three IP addresses (one virtual) on my server, so I doubt it's the bridging.  (Mine aren't bridged, though, just up)
[01:39] <Jetfighter> Ugh
[01:39] <Eifersucht> hey man i got that wireless working
[01:39] <kwtm> bruenig: Now rebooting to see if rc.local will run my script correctly.  Here we go!
[01:39] <kkerwin> lufis: The bigger problem is figuring out what the program wants. It's readme: install like any other program. Great ...
[01:39] <gbv22> hi, is there some way I can create a bootable usb pen drive (256 or 512 MB capacity)......with some lite versionn of ubuntu??
[01:39] <Pollywog> oh good,
[01:40] <lufis> kkerwin: heh
[01:40] <Pollywog> ndiswrapper?
[01:40] <Eifersucht> ha yeah it was gay
[01:40] <Eifersucht> no
[01:40] <preaction> iulian_: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/chunkyhtml/index.html <- good luck. i've always thought that BSD and pf were the way to go
[01:40] <kkerwin> lufis: Literally ...
[01:40] <xtknight> Jetfighter, have you tried google?  it's probably mysql apache extensions or sometihng
[01:40] <Eifersucht> right click the network connection on the top right thingy
[01:40] <iulian_> Pollywog, I want to keep a site on server too. And in the same time to be a lan router at home.
[01:40] <Eifersucht> i had to manually type wlan0
[01:40] <Jetfighter> xtknight, I think it's MySQL?
[01:40] <Eifersucht> then i had to manually enter the ESSID
[01:40] <Pollywog> julian:oic
[01:40] <xtknight> Jetfighter, i have no clue but that might point you in the right direction
[01:41] <Eifersucht> which i shouldt have to o] 
[01:41] <Eifersucht> do*
[01:41] <mojo> xtknight, sethk  the link to my project page is http://projects.powerdeveloper.org/project/efika/81  and the device is described at http://www.genesippc.com/efika.php
[01:41] <trev_> does anyone know a program that converts .img files to .iso
[01:41] <etchris> Please can i get the move command again please, to move something from home folder to wine c driver?
[01:41] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: so the thing essentially works out of the box?
[01:41] <Eifersucht> it should find and auto connect to it
[01:41] <xtknight> mojo, are you booting a linux from a small chip via PXE?
[01:41] <Eifersucht> well.....kinda
[01:41] <xtknight> mojo, on a small chip*&
[01:41] <preaction> iulian_: there are also other advantages to having a full-fledged computer doing your routing, such as QoS, scheduling, bandwidth limiting, and fun advanced stuff
[01:41] <Eifersucht> it needs better support
[01:41] <Eifersucht> but yes
[01:41] <SirBob1701> anyone got decent tutorial for setting up the apache2 error log?
[01:41] <SirBob1701> lol
[01:41] <Eifersucht> and the meter bar doesnt work
[01:41] <Eifersucht> =/
[01:41] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: you are using plain WEP?
[01:41] <Zenerek> does anyone know how to create new groups?
[01:41] <Eifersucht> well for kwifi it works
[01:41] <Eifersucht> no
[01:41] <Eifersucht> i am at a cafe
[01:41] <etchris> Please can i get the move command again please, to move something from home folder to wine c drive?
[01:42] <mojo> sethk: oh, well i didn't think the bridging _should_ be the problem, but still the device is not getting it's tftp image and i DO see the req's in syslog
[01:42] <Pollywog> oic
[01:42] <Eifersucht> so no encryption
[01:42] <mboso> how do i know what options a package was compiled with?
[01:42] <Eifersucht> and at home i just have mac filtering set up
[01:42] <eck> Zenerek: groupadd
[01:42] <iulian_> preaction, I agree with you. For the moment I only need it for basic stuff
[01:42] <Jetfighter> xtknight, what if I have LAMP installed?
[01:42] <xtknight> Jetfighter, sorry no idea dude
[01:42] <kkerwin> lufis: Now more problems. I'll let you and everyone else take a look.
[01:42] <Zenerek> thanks
[01:42] <iulian_> preaction, you have some scripts?
[01:42] <asc> etchris: mv ~/file ~./wine/drive_c
[01:42] <kkerwin> Ok. Small compile problem, here's the output: http://rafb.net/p/90iN4x23.html
[01:43] <ijmi> I don't know if anyone here has experience with the "Super Grub Disk," but it says it recovers the first copy of GRUB it finds. The old copy of GRUB I had did not know that I had Windows. Does this mean that when it recovers GRUB, it still won't see Windows?
[01:43] <Eifersucht> Pollywog i need to get the sound working though
[01:43] <mojo> xtknight: pxe is actually not in the picture.  it is getting it's ip addr via dhcp okay (dhcp3-server), and getting it's next-server (same one, me @ 10.1.1.1) and filename for tftp dl just fine.  it then tries several times to dl from tftp and then gives up
[01:43] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: if you have a ssh server at home you can use ssh tunneling
[01:43] <preaction> iulian_: read the link i gave you. at the bottom are example scripts
[01:43] <kkerwin> Trying to compile xpertmud. Have python-dev headers installed.
[01:43] <Pollywog> to get encryption
[01:43] <unclemike> ? can i make ubuntu look like this..Linux XP desktop...its gnome based..   http://www.linux-xp.com/upload/iblock/533/533e1ee114f17813197eaf5ab0361324.png
[01:43] <preaction> iulian_: do NOT use those examples without understanding them
[01:43] <preaction> unclemike: yes, but why? who cares?
[01:43] <Eifersucht> well first thing Pollywog i need to get the sound working on this lappy
[01:44] <eck> kkerwin: i think your compile is too new, and it doesn't like the syntax in the source
[01:44] <Pollywog> k
[01:44] <pchilds> Has anyone succesfully set up the mt-daapd server?
[01:44] <Eifersucht> any sugestions
[01:44] <preaction> unclemike: http://art.gnome.org
[01:44] <eck> pchilds: yes
[01:44] <etchris> asc, I want to move.. `/home/chris/Desktop/xfire_installer_25104.exe' so what would the command be ?
[01:44] <mojo> xtknight: the EFIKA is a Freescale 5200B SoC dev system (powerPC)
[01:44] <kkerwin> eck: Damn.
[01:44] <Pollywog> which sound device?
[01:44] <iulian_> preaction, thank you, I missed that link :)
[01:44] <Eifersucht> and why cant i use alsaconf with ubuntu ?
[01:44] <Eifersucht> i dunno
[01:44] <Jetfighter> unclemike, tell me if you find out. That looks sweet.
[01:44] <eck> kkerwin: ask the developers what they used to compile it, and install that version
[01:44] <PedroS> unclemike: why do you want that? gnome themes are nicer than XP themes :)
[01:44] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: you can
[01:44] <Eifersucht> i can PM you the lspci
[01:44] <ep2011> !rm
[01:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:44] <Pollywog> k
[01:44] <preaction> iulian_: again, good luck. i've tried to use iptables before, and failed
[01:44] <Eifersucht> whats the command for it
[01:44] <unclemike> preaction, i like the single bar better then the top and bottom bars
[01:44] <asc> techris: mv ~/Desktop/xfire_installer_25104.exe ~/.wine/drive_c
[01:44] <Eifersucht> because just alsaconf doesnt work
[01:44] <pchilds> Cool are there any good how to sites that might help me get it up and running?
[01:45] <mojo> sethk: i can pastebin whatever you think might help
[01:45] <kkerwin> eck: That would explain why the compiler kept complaining about a `;' sign preceding a // coment.
[01:45] <preaction> unclemike: then customize them? right-click on them you'll get a menu
[01:45] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: you need to install it, let me find out which package
[01:45] <sethk> mojo, k.  but give me a few minutes here to walk my dog.
[01:45] <Pollywog> I think it is alsa-utils
[01:45] <mojo> sethk: no problemo
[01:45] <eck> pchilds: it is very simple. you pretty much just install it and edit /etc/mt-daapd.conf
[01:45] <eck> the config file explains itself
[01:45] <unclemike> k
[01:45] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: first, find out what hardware you have
[01:45] <unclemike> thanks
[01:46] <Eifersucht> Pollywog check your PM's
[01:46] <eck> pchilds: there is also a web interface, if you set up apache (again, the config file explains it)
[01:46] <Eifersucht> Pollywog*  just sent you the lspci list in a PM
[01:47] <ep2011> YES! finally, no checksums failed!!!
[01:47] <Pollywog> I do not see it
[01:47] <mboso> how do i know what options a package was compiled with?
[01:47] <somniis> ep2011: good :)
[01:47] <Eifersucht> bleh ok
[01:47] <Eifersucht> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
[01:47] <ep2011> :)
[01:47] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: go to System > info center
[01:47] <ep2011> Do you think 20 gigs is enough?
[01:47] <ep2011> (for ubuntu)
[01:47] <Pollywog> on the main menu
[01:47] <Eifersucht> k hold on
[01:47] <somniis> yes, plenty
[01:48] <ep2011> Okay.
[01:48] <eck> it's a lot more than i have :-)
[01:48] <ep2011> How much would you reccomend?
[01:48] <Eifersucht> dont see that Pollywog
[01:48] <ep2011> 15 with a 2 swap?
[01:48] <somniis> hehe, i have an entire 60 gig hd to it ;)
[01:48] <Eifersucht> i see a device manager though
[01:48] <userund> ep2011, 2 swap is mass overkill.
[01:48] <harry_> can I login to my computer over a network from a computer which does not have ubuntu installed
[01:48] <ep2011> I thought 2x ram?
[01:48] <ep2011> 1 swap?
[01:48] <pchilds> Thanks again eck.
[01:48] <somniis> 1 ext3 partition and 1 swap partition
[01:48] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: I think that is the same thing
[01:48] <userund> ep2011, if you have a gig of ram, you'll probably never even use swap.  1gb at most.
[01:49] <Skwid_> hey guys, i have a fat32 partition that is automagically mounted (and works well) but its not in /etc/fstab, any idea where it comes from ?
[01:49] <Pollywog> Kinfocenter
[01:49] <Eifersucht> k
[01:49] <Pollywog> you using KDE?
[01:49] <Eifersucht> i am using ubuntu
[01:49] <ep2011> Wow, much different from Windows.
[01:49] <ep2011> :P
[01:49] <Eifersucht> bleh
[01:49] <Eifersucht> gnome
[01:49] <bruenig> what is the deal with priorities in update-alternatives, how do you know, the numbers seem arbitrary
[01:49] <Pollywog> oh that's why you don't have Kinfocenter
[01:49] <userund> bruenig, yeah they're a real pain
[01:50] <Skwid_> or how i could mirror the currently mounted partitions in fstab ?
[01:50] <harry_> can I login to my computer over a network from a computer which does not have ubuntu installed
[01:50] <Eifersucht> Pollywog i am there so errrmmm..... what now ?
[01:50] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\setup.exe": Module not found'
[01:50] <{NmE}> What do I do?
[01:50] <userund> harry_, sure, with an ssh client like putty
[01:50] <asc> ep2011: 2x is probably overkill unless you're real low on RAM.  I've got 768 and it never touches the swap, so if you've got a decent ammount of RAM you don't need much swap.
[01:50] <{NmE}> or does this not really matter?
[01:50] <Pollywog> do you see the sound card info?
[01:50] <Skwid_> anyone ?
[01:50] <Eifersucht> nope
[01:50] <harry_> how do I do that?
[01:50] <userund> harry_, windows?
[01:51] <asc> Unless you're planning to do something strange, anyway.
[01:51] <harry_> yeah
[01:51] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: what is the chipset of your mobo?
[01:51] <koper> I have a pdf file and I want the text from it with the formatting. bold text and so on. any way to do this?
[01:51] <ep2011> So how much of each do you guys recommend? 15 gigs for ubuntu and 1 for swap?
[01:51] <userund> harry_, go download putty.
[01:51] <Jaguar> asc: Hibernation :)
[01:51] <ep2011> more? less?
[01:51] <Eifersucht> errmmmmm
[01:51] <koper> ep2011, 15gb is alot for just the system
[01:51] <Eifersucht> dunno
[01:51] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[01:51] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: apt-get install alsa-utils
[01:51] <PedroS> Skwid: are you sure that the partitions isn't in /etc/fstab? ubuntu automatically detects partitions and the device is something like this: UUID=4E904850904840A7
[01:51] <userund> ep2011, 8 for root ( / ), the rest for /home
[01:51] <asc> Jaguar: Oh, hm.  Never done that.  How much does it need?  About the same as RAM?
[01:51] <PedroS> and not /dev/hda2 p.e
[01:51] <Eifersucht> i think i installed that already through the synaptics packet manager
[01:51] <Jetfighter> If I download a theme, how do I get it?
[01:52] <Pollywog> then if you use sudo you should see the alsaconf command
[01:52] <Eifersucht> Pollywog ATI everyting with intel dual core proc
[01:52] <Eifersucht> ok lemme see
[01:52] <Madpilot> ubotu, themes | Jetfighter
[01:52] <ubotu> Jetfighter: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:52] <jrib> Jetfighter: system > preferences > themes   drah it into that window
[01:52] <ep2011> I'm going to have a duelboot, so should I have /home seperate? If I do, how much for /home?
[01:52] <Pollywog> sudo alsaconf
[01:52] <jrib> Jetfighter: drag*
[01:52] <kkerwin> What is the command to find all files installed by a package?
[01:52] <koper> ep2011, I have 7gb for / and only 2.9 used. But I have /home on another partition
[01:52] <Pollywog> kkerwin: dpkg -L packagename
[01:52] <Jetfighter> {NmE} - wine PROGRAMNAME.exe IN the directory thatfile is located
[01:53] <kkerwin> Pollywog: Thanks
[01:53] <Jaguar> asc: Yeah, hibernation is basically a semi-shutdown state, all your memory gets paged and the system cuts most of its power. I have trouble with suspending in Ubuntu so I've never tried hiberation :/
[01:53] <Eifersucht> Pollywog ...... not working
[01:53] <koper> ep2011, how much you should have for home only you can decide, it's for your personal files
[01:53] <arrenlex> Jaguar: hibernation IS a shut-down. It saves its ram to the swap partition and sets a hook to restore from it at boot. Then it turns off.
[01:53] <Eifersucht> dunno whats wrong
[01:53] <mojo> xtknight: the way i understand it, pxe net-boots a pxelinux program that in turn presents a menu of other kernel images to load from the tftp server, right?  don't know if that will work on a powerpc platform if pxelinux.0 is x86 code
[01:53] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: what does it do?
[01:54] <Pollywog> try to install alsa-utils again using apt
[01:54] <arrenlex> Jaguar: suspend is the semi-shutdown state. It dumps everything into ram and shuts down everything but the ram.
[01:54] <Jetfighter> jrib - It says th file type is invalid
[01:54] <asc> Jaguar: Hum.  Maybe I'll play around with that.
[01:54] <Eifersucht> errrmmmm lemme register with the server so i can PM you thats why it didnt work earlier
[01:54] <Eifersucht> how do i register ?
[01:54] <jrib> Jetfighter: where did you get this theme from?  can you link me?
[01:54] <arrenlex> !register > Eifersucht
[01:54] <Jaguar> arrenlex: I'm pretty sure I said that, without saying it was just blatantly a shutdown (because then what would the difference be?)
[01:54] <Eifersucht> ight
[01:54] <Jetfighter> jrib - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=35897
[01:54] <ep2011> Maybe ill do 5 for / and 15 for /home and 1 for /swap... That sounds pretty good to me
[01:54] <Eifersucht> !register
[01:54] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:54] <Eifersucht> lol
[01:54] <Pollywog> or to identify /msg nickserv identify password
[01:54] <khermans1> i installed xubuntu-desktop, but now i want to go back to ubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <arrenlex> Jaguar: Difference is you get your session back. :)
[01:54] <Jetfighter> Eifersucht, /ns register PASS
[01:54] <Eifersucht> thats what i thought Pollywog
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> Hello there, is there any command-line OGG player for Ubuntu, please?
[01:55] <khermans1> i did aptitude purge xubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <Eifersucht> ight
[01:55] <koper> ep2011, sounds fine
[01:55] <Eifersucht> no e-mail ?
[01:55] <khermans1> but it still shows xubuntu login
[01:55] <Jaguar> arrenlex: Technicalities, technicalities :P
[01:55] <arrenlex> !ogg123 | superkirbyartist
[01:55] <ep2011> Okay, thank you.
[01:55] <Jetfighter> I don't belive so
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg123 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <koper> ep2011, good luck
[01:55] <ep2011> Thanks :)
[01:55] <arrenlex> ...hmm.
[01:55] <Eifersucht> damn it
[01:55] <Jetfighter> !ogg | superkirbyartist
[01:55] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:55] <Eifersucht> already registered
[01:55] <Eifersucht> crap
[01:55] <Eifersucht> um....
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> "Package ogg123 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> is only available from another source
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> E: Package ogg123 has no installation candidate
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> "
[01:56] <bruenig> !paste | superkirbyartist
[01:56] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:56] <harry_> how do i find what my computer's ip adress is ?
[01:56] <PedroS> superkirbyartist: I think mplayer can do it
[01:56] <superkirbyartist> Isn't "ogg" a free format?
[01:56] <Jetfighter> bruenig, you beat me to it
[01:56] <Shaba1> Hello ladies and gents
[01:56] <PedroS> harry: ifconfig
[01:56] <superkirbyartist> !mplayer
[01:56] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[01:56] <Eifersucht> Polly doesnt look like thats working
[01:56] <Pollywog> k
[01:56] <arrenlex> superkirbyartist: Oh! That executable is in the vorbis-tools package.
[01:56] <xtknight> mojo, dunno but i dont think an x86 image will work on ppc
[01:56] <superkirbyartist> Pedros: Madplay is a command-line?
[01:57] <superkirbyartist> arrenlex: Talking about ogg123?  How can I fetch it?
[01:57] <Pollywog> I guess I can't initiate the chat either if you are not identified to Nickserv
[01:57] <arrenlex> superkirbyartist: install vorbis-tools
[01:57] <Jaguar> Jetfigher: bruenig is good at that hehe.
[01:57] <etchris> Anyway that i can set my pc to turn it self off at a set time?
[01:57] <arrenlex> superkirbyartist: That'll give you ogg123
[01:57] <jrib> etchris: man shutdown, you can specify a time
[01:57] <Jetfighter> jrib - How can I?
[01:57] <superkirbyartist> Arrenlex and others, thanks for your time, see you later.
[01:57] <mojo> xtknight: that is what i figured too..
[01:57] <jrib> Jetfighter: you are dragging the tar.gz right?
[01:57] <Jetfighter> Yes
[01:58] <Shaba1> Hey I have a question. I have a 37.5 gb hd on my laptop semperon 1800mhz with 256mb ram. I have 22.5gb free. I just defraged and cleaned it. What size of ubuntu and swap partitions would everyon reccomend for me. Taking it account that I need to keep window XP for work
[01:58] <jrib> Jetfighter: it works fine for me
[01:58] <mojo> xtknight: though i may be able to find source for pxelinux and compile a ppc version, dunno... not really necessary for my project though.  i did find the page you linked me useful, though.
[01:58] <Jewbilee> Hey, I just installed ubuntu on an external hardrive.  Both the / and swap partitions are on the external harddrive.  My intent was to be able to run windows on my laptop, and when the external is with me, be able to boot ubuntu if wanted.  If my external is unplugged or turned off though, I get a GRUB error.  Error 21
[01:58] <asc> etchris: You can set it to execute a command (such as 'shutdown -h now') daily with chrontab.
[01:59] <VeganChick> I think Ubuntu just died on me...
[01:59] <Jetfighter> jrib - tell me EXACTLY what to do
[01:59] <xtknight> mojo, wish i could remember how my dad set it up but alas i can't...all i know is that he booted off a precompiled Blackfin vmlinuz from tftp
[01:59] <jrib> Jetfighter: download the tar.gz file to your desktop.  Open system > preferences > themes.  Using your mouse, drag the tar.gz file into the theme window
[01:59] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[01:59] <etchris> asc, Chrontab?
[01:59] <PedroS> Shabal: 512mb for swap and 10/15gb for ubuntu
[02:00] <fannagoganna> hi, i am trying to install a very minimal Ubuntu system with debootstrap onto my linux machine
[02:00] <bruenig> !hi | fannagoganna
[02:00] <ubotu> fannagoganna: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:00] <fannagoganna> however, i am installing onto a currently configured LVM2 system
[02:00] <asc> Shaba1: 256-392 swap.  You can use all the rest for ubuntu, or set it up into several partitions (probably one for / and one for /home so it saves your settings and stuff after a reinstall).
[02:00] <VeganChick> Error msg = "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[02:00] <Shaba1> Hello?
[02:00] <somniis> VeganChick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:01] <fannagoganna> will the kernel and grub installed with debootstrap work -- will it have the kernel modules to recognize the LVM2 partitions?
[02:01] <bruenig> !hi | Shaba1
[02:01] <ubotu> Shaba1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:01] <asc> etchris: My bad, spelling is 'crontab', no h.  Run 'man crontab' in a terminal.
[02:01] <PedroS> Shabal: I answered your question :)
[02:01] <VeganChick> somniis: where should I enter that command?
[02:01] <PedroS> that should do it
[02:01] <xtknight> mojo, didnt you say you couldn't connect to the tftp esrver?
[02:01] <somniis> VeganChick: it should bring up the cli after X fails, to allow you to log in
[02:01] <xtknight> mojo, i dont think it even attempts to connect untli you request a file, thus the failing though i could be wrong
[02:01] <userund> fannagoganna, unless you compile it yourself it should recognize it by default.  I don't know why you're bootstrapping though but anyway
[02:01] <VeganChick> ok, thanks a lot!
[02:01] <Jewbilee> Hey, I just installed ubuntu on an external hardrive.  Both the / and swap partitions are on the external harddrive.  My intent was to be able to run windows on my laptop, and when the external is with me, be able to boot ubuntu if wanted.  If my external is unplugged or turned off though, I get a GRUB error.  Error 21
[02:02] <somniis> np :)
[02:02] <VeganChick> hope it works...wish me luck!
[02:02] <Shaba1> I will scroll back PedroS
[02:02] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: grub (the boot loader) is looking for its configuration file, which lives in the ubuntu partition. It can't find it and thus can't load.
[02:02] <Jetfighter> jrib, I got it in, but now, I can't apply it :(
[02:02] <Shaba1> thanks pedro.
[02:02] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: well, i wasnt even expecting grub to load unless i booted from my external drive
[02:03] <fannagoganna> i am doing it this way because the 6.10 alternate CD's don't recognize my LVM2 partition
[02:03] <jrib> Jetfighter: what does it say when you try?
[02:03] <Shaba1> NOw off to partion logic
[02:03] <asc> etchris: Come to think of it, that man page isn't very helpful.  There's a more readable guide here: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucrontab.htm
[02:03] <Shaba1> Hopefully it will allow resize
[02:03] <Jetfighter> I select it, then nothing happens
[02:03] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: i should be booting from my internall HDD and that only has windows installed
[02:03] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: You can solve this by making a small (100mb) partition on your main hard drive and installing grub to that. Or else use a different boot loader of some sort.
[02:03] <Jetfighter> How do I apply it?
[02:03] <harry_> How do I set up my computer to run as a server for thin clients on a home network?
[02:03] <mojo> xtknight: i can run tftp on my desktop and connect to localhost and it works fine... but the efika is timeing out... it DOES get packets to me, though, as i see them in syslog with DPT=69 (dest port)
[02:03] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: is it possible that my boot order has been switched?
[02:03] <jrib> Jetfighter: selecting it suppose to apply it.  Are you using metacity? (not beryl or compiz)
[02:03] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: and its trying to boot from the external
[02:04] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: grub is installed to the master boot loader of the internal hard drive. For the effect you want to achieve, you'd need to install grub to the boot record of the external hard drive and then configure the bios to boot from the external hard drive first.
[02:04] <Jetfighter> jrib - I don't know.
[02:04] <jrib> Jetfighter: do your windows wobble?
[02:04] <xtknight> mojo, can you retrieve the linux image from another pc on your network though.  maybe it's only bound to localhoost..?
[02:04] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: what i want to be able to do is when the laptop is turned on, have it go straight to windows, unless i press f12 to boot specifically from the external
[02:04] <Zambezis> I tried to run rsync and when I tabbed I found this "|1|pqqrg+33MApZa77uu0ih8xPU7sM=|o78W1tBwVHfJDI7Ju20LlhNVXB8=:". What is that? It's not there when I ran ls -la
[02:04] <runtime> Will Feisty Fawn have Compiz or Beryl by default?
[02:04] <xtknight> mojo, or instead of using localhost at least use the 10.x.x.x or 192.x.x.x ip of your lan computer, i think that bypasses lo interface
[02:04] <mojo> xtknight: dunno... don't have any other linux boxen set up on the lan
[02:04] <xtknight> runtime, no
[02:04] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[02:05] <{NmE}> Can no one see what I type??
[02:05] <jrib> runtime: no, but it will have a menu option to enable it
[02:05] <mojo> xtknight: good suggestion.. will try
[02:05] <xtknight> {NmE}, im afraid we all can but none of us may know the answer
[02:05] <runtime> Ok thanks
[02:05] <xtknight> mojo, arent there windows tftp clients too
[02:05] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: What does f12 do?
[02:05] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: f12 on my main startup page is my "boot from" menu
[02:05] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: Is that from the bios or from software?
[02:05] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: itll let me choose interal, external, cdrom, blah blah you know
[02:06] <{NmE}> Has anyone used wine here? or no?
[02:06] <VeganChick> somniis: I forgot to write it down...copy-paste shuts down on reboot. lol
[02:06] <PedroS> someone knows when will the new Gnome 2.18 be available in the ubuntu repositories?
[02:06] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: bios
[02:06] <trev_> can anyone tell me what ubuntu app will execute a mdf file?
[02:06] <jrib> {NmE}: ask your real question
[02:06] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[02:06] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: Then I would put the windows boot loader back onto the internal hard drive's MBR and put grub on the external drive.
[02:06] <xtknight> {NmE}, #winehq
[02:06] <{NmE}> Thank you
[02:06] <Jetfighter> {NmE} - wine program.exe
[02:06] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: i dont know what you mean
[02:06] <mojo> xtknight: sure there problably are... btw i tested 10.1.1.1 and 192.168.1.103 locally and they work
[02:06] <Skwid_> what'S the difference btw mtab and fstab ?
[02:06] <xtknight> mojo, so it is able to save the linux image to a file and everything?
[02:07] <mojo> xtknight: the other boxen are my brother and roommate's pc's.. there is one in the living room i could go play with though
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, mtab is a record log of all <currently> mounted drives and their parameters.
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, if you remove something from mtab it has no way of knowing it is still mounted
[02:07] <{NmE}> Jetfighter, what do you want me to do with that? I cant put that in the term  can I?? I would not think that it would do anything..
[02:07] <mojo> xtknight: sure.
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, fstab is a table of how to mount the file systems
[02:07] <Skwid_> xtknight: hum, how come i have partitions mounted in mtab that are not in fstab ? and i did not mount them manually
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, automount
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, example..?
[02:08] <Skwid_> xtknight: a fat32 partition ..
[02:08] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: Boot ubuntu. Run sudo grub-install /dev/<secondary drive here>. Then, restore windows' boot manager for your internal drive (you'd have to google or ask around about how to do that, I've never gone the other way down that road =))
[02:08] <Skwid_> it's not in fstab, but it is mounted, and in mtab
[02:08] <VeganChick> Can someone look back <5 min ago and see what command line somniis gave to me?
[02:08] <Jetfighter> jrib, I try to install a new theme, it's a tar.gz file...Not valid
[02:08] <invisibleman> anyone can help me config adsl on edgy?
[02:08] <xtknight> Skwid_, is it listed under 'mount'?  if so, paste the entry
[02:08] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: thanks, ill ask around
[02:08] <mojo> xtknight: i will try from the pc downstairs... bbiab
[02:08] <PedroS> Skwid: you or some script automatically mounted the partition without the need of fstab
[02:08] <jrib> Jetfighter: is this the same theme as before?  Didn't you say it installed?
[02:08] <Skwid_> VeganChick: <somniis> VeganChick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:08] <VeganChick> thanks!
[02:09] <Zenerek> i use wine
[02:09] <{NmE}> OOO
[02:09] <{NmE}> help then!
[02:09] <Skwid_> xtknight: /dev/hda5 on /media/DATA type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077)
[02:09] <{NmE}> please
[02:09] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[02:09] <jrib> !repeat | {NmE}
[02:09] <ubotu> {NmE}: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:09] <xtknight> Skwid_, ah yeah that's automatically mounted (don't know the details) by ubuntu
[02:09] <Skwid_> xtknight: weird ...
[02:09] <Skwid_> xtknight: i dont really care as much as it stays that way
[02:10] <xtknight> Skwid_, i tried to find out how the automount worked but didnt get very far
[02:10] <bruenig> {NmE}, if everything works fine, don't worry about it
[02:10] <peter77> I'm having some trouble getting totem to play mpeg4
[02:10] <fannagoganna> hi harry_, what are you trying to do?
[02:10] <{NmE}> I am.. been in here for almost an hour.. :P lol and I have been searching
[02:10] <xtknight> Skwid_, i dont know if it's a kernel/hal thing or what
[02:10] <peter77> I've tried installing mplayer and ffmpeg
[02:10] <{NmE}> Anyway, i think i almost have it
[02:10] <Skwid_> xtknight: ok, i like the magic though lol
[02:10] <peter77> I've also installed totem-xine
[02:10] <xtknight> {NmE}, um #winehq cant help?
[02:10] <arrenlex> peter77: totem sucks. Just use mplayer.
[02:10] <Zenerek> don't know what to say, mine installed fine, i using dapper
[02:10] <fannagoganna> hi peter77, i have a grand apt sources.list that would be useful
[02:10] <bruenig> {NmE}, wine spits out a bunch of stuff, you can generally ignore it
[02:10] <userund> !xvid | peter77
[02:10] <ubotu> peter77: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:10] <fannagoganna> you can just install from there and have an ffmpeg and mplayer that "just works"
[02:11] <Skwid_> is there a front end for manaing multiple monitors ? or do i have to manually edit xorg.conf ???
[02:11] <xtknight> why is -phigh a commonly used parameter for dpkg-reconfigure?  nothing in the man page seems to correspond properly with those parameters
[02:11] <peter77> Thanx
[02:11] <bruenig> Skwid_, just have two xorg.confs and mv them back and forth as needed
[02:11] <Jetfighter> jrib, PM me please?
[02:11] <{NmE}> Yeah, thats kinda the answer I was looking for bruenig
[02:11] <Skwid_> bruenig: that really sucks lol
[02:11] <rbil> does the command "init 3" still work in Edgy?
[02:11] <xtknight> rbil, yes
[02:11] <jrib> Jetfighter: just ask here
[02:11] <userund> xtknight, because it sets the defaults and you only have to answer one question instead of all of them
[02:12] <jrib> xtknight: -pvalue
[02:12] <invisibleman> anyone can help me config adsl on edgy?
[02:12] <Jetfighter> jrib, I'm trying to install xpde but Idk how. PLease help
[02:12] <xtknight> jrib, ohhh i got it.  -p with attribute of 'high'.  thanks
[02:12] <FiRaRdA> Arkadaslar ubuntu nvidia yuzunden aclmyor upgradeleri falan yaptm x'e ckamyorum ne yapmalym
[02:12] <bruenig> Skwid_, your question is kind of odd, no it doesn't have a front end, the only way the front end could work is using x...
[02:12] <bruenig> and you see the problem I hope
[02:12] <jrib> Jetfighter: ok, what is xpde?
[02:12] <Jetfighter> Theme, www.xpde.org
[02:12] <Skwid_> bruenig: hum ... windows has a front end :p
[02:12] <Jetfighter> .com*
[02:13] <xtknight> !tr | FiRaRdA
[02:13] <ubotu> FiRaRdA: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[02:13] <perverted> hey doods, just a pipe / grep question, how do i type this command for each line in list.txt ?: sudo route del {LINE FROM FILE list.txt} gw 192.168.0.1 eth0
[02:13] <FiRaRdA> thnks
[02:13] <Zenerek> hey almost forgot install automatix and have it install wine for you (installs newer version too)
[02:14] <Alonea> so, my computer will not shut down anymore after installing the binary drivers for my video card. video card is perfectly fine. acpi=off noacpi to my boot does not fix it either.
[02:14] <bruenig> Skwid_, it wouldn't be that hard to create a front end, I could probably create a script with zenity that was pretty much a front end
[02:14] <arrenlex> perverted: cat list.txt | while read line ; do sudo route del $line gw 192.168.0.1 eth0 ; done
[02:14] <bruenig> Skwid_, all you do is mv the xorg.conf and then restart x
[02:14] <bruenig> that is two commands
[02:14] <Daem> I would like to mount an Nforce raid that's partitioned as NTFS, can anyone point me in the right direction? (Ubuntu is installed on a different drive)
[02:14] <ScreaminIke> i'm inclined to encrypt my filesystems except for a very small /boot partition. but i want to know... if encrypt my /home partition, will i be able to access it if i reinstall the system (assuming i remember the passswords...)
[02:14] <Skwid_> bruenig: haha, you have to find the right parameters for xinerama though ... and that's not fun
[02:14] <Jetfighter> jrib?
[02:15] <jrib> Jetfighter: that's a different desktop environment (like GNOME), it's not a theme.  You'll probably need to compile it.  I don't see a package for it
[02:15] <SubMOA> TOP OF THE MORNING!
[02:15] <bruenig> Skwid_, well you have to create the xorg yeah, I thought you were just talking about switching between the two after you had created the two xorg.confs
[02:15] <perverted> arrenlex: thx
[02:15] <lisapc> azuerus keeps telling me perission denied when trying to install plugins and updates.  any solution pls?   do I need to give myself persission to use the azuerus folder?
[02:15] <Jetfighter> How can I do it jrib?
[02:15] <Skwid_> bruenig: no ...
[02:15] <userund> lisapc, try running azureus as root if you're doing it through az.
[02:15] <davascript_home> how can i add src to apt-get
[02:16] <davascript_home> which file do i add the server to
[02:16] <lisapc> userund, yes that works!  but isnt it dangerous running azuers are root all the time?
[02:16] <Slick_> hey guys I'm trying to install a virtualbox additions file which is VBoxAdditions.run can anyone give me any tips as how I can run it?
[02:16] <xtknight> davascript_home, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:16] <jrib> Jetfighter: http://www.xpde.com/releases.php
[02:16] <Legion> Hey. I'm pondering making the switch to Ubuntu from WinXP. I've been playing around with the liveCD a little and I kinda like it. One of my main problems is that there seems to be a sound problem. No sound what so ever! Is there a site where one can check if the hardware one has is supported?
[02:16] <xtknight> Slick_, sh asdf.run
[02:16] <Slick_> cheers
[02:16] <Helmi> hmm thought i'd find gvim in the repositories - anyone knows where i can get it?
[02:16] <davascript_home> thank you  would you know which src to add alos or a list or a website
[02:16] <bruenig> !sound
[02:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:16] <userund> lisapc, potentially, but you shouldn't run it ALL the time, all you need root privs for is to install them.
[02:17] <lisapc> userund, you are not being helpfu;l
[02:17] <xtknight> !info vim-gnome | Helmi
[02:17] <ubotu> helmi: vim-gnome: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GNOME2 GUI. In component main, is extra. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 1796 kB
[02:17] <lisapc> userund, can I sudo chmod +x the azur folder?
[02:17] <Slick_> its working xtknight, cheers, I'll remember that
[02:17] <xtknight> Helmi, found it via 'apt-cache search gvim'
[02:17] <davascript_home> thansk you xtknight
[02:17] <enlightenedpsych> hey anyone know how I can change the default language of the profile currently used?
[02:17] <userund> lisapc, heh, I'm not being helpful.  nevermind.
[02:17] <xtknight> davascript_home, no problem.  not sure i understand the question about 'src' though
[02:17] <Helmi> xtknight: thanks will relook that
[02:18] <davascript_home> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[02:18] <davascript_home> deb-src sorry
[02:18] <xtknight> yea
[02:18] <lisapc> userund, you are trolling
[02:18] <userund> lisapc, I gave you the solution.  you don't have to use it, but don't attack me for it.
[02:18] <xtknight> lisapc, don't think you know what trolling is
[02:18] <Helmi> xtknight: arrggl ok it's named "vim-gnome" not "gvim" :)
[02:19] <xtknight> Helmi, ah yeah...well did you see the msg from ubotu?
[02:19] <AMD> hi , i have just mounted a drive ...is it possible to have write access with out having to be root ? its not ntfs
[02:19] <lisapc> userund, you should not tell new ubuntu users to run anything as root.
[02:19] <harry_> can i run the terminal-server client app installed in the internet menu by default off a live cd?
[02:19] <bruenig> lisapc, what is the problem...
[02:19] <Helmi> xtknight: yeah but i missed that the vim-gnome part at the beginning is the package name
[02:19] <xtknight> AMD, hmm umask=  option i belive
[02:19] <Jetfighter> lisapc, what fool are you? I've used this for less than 5 days, I'm using sudo stuff...
[02:19] <real_aussie> Hi, anyone, I get UDP packets arriving from the net at about 1.8kb/sec: Anyone know how do I log and inspect these to see what they are?
[02:19] <xtknight> AMD, or uid= or user= ....
[02:20] <brando> is there someone who can help me with my initial boot.  ubuntu is being stubborn and the forums arent giving me a concrete answer
[02:20] <xtknight> real_aussie, Wireshark
[02:20] <nexousNET> Hi
[02:20] <bruenig> Jetfighter, seems like years
[02:20] <userund> lisapc, you don't know what you're talking about.  I won't bother with you anymore.
[02:20] <IamUnsai1> good evening everyone
[02:20] <nexousNET> Okay, I've tried this a ton of times, How can I get MonteCarlo, windows font onto ubuntu?
[02:20] <sethk> real_aussie, ethereal is very easy to use
[02:20] <xtknight> !ask | brando
[02:20] <ubotu> brando: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:20] <bruenig> !howdy | IamUnsai1
[02:20] <ubotu> IamUnsai1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:20] <Jetfighter> bruenig, shhhh pl0x.
[02:20] <xtknight> wireshark = new name for ethereal
[02:20] <sethk> real_aussie, tcpdump is the underly8ing program that captures the packets
[02:20] <Jetfighter> !themes > Jetfighter
[02:21] <AMD> confused :)
[02:21] <h3xagram> hello im having an issue installing tftp.. im getting this error: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10700/
[02:21] <real_aussie> xtknight, sethk, etc: thanks.
[02:21] <xtknight> AMD, well what filesystem, ext3?
[02:21] <h3xagram> any help is greatly appreciated
[02:21] <Zenerek> ok need help here, am trying to add a second group to this other user using usermode but i it tells me the group does not exist and it does i created it using addgroup, i think i may be giving the wrong commands     usermod user -G firestarter    (note i created a group called firestarter)
[02:21] <rbil> What is causing Edgy to dump "crash" files in /var/crash and how can this "feature" be turned off?
[02:21] <nexousNET> How do i add .FON, .PCF, .BDF fones?
[02:21] <AMD> xtknight:yes
[02:21] <nexousNET> fonts*?
[02:21] <OrcD3vil> I'm trying to install ubuntu and I'm trying to find out how do I go about taking my 2 hard drives that are 200 gigs each and spanning them on to the same Volume for Ubuntu?
[02:21] <brando> thx and sry.  as i do an inital boot through the ubuntu cd it stops and says /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[02:21] <bruenig> h3xagram, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:21] <lisapc> userund, go troll elsewhere
[02:21] <ScreaminIke> i want to encrypt my /home... but it scares me a bit. is there a proper method for going about this?
[02:21] <AMD> xtknight: i think i knwo why it wont work :P dev/hda2 /media/bkup ntfs-fuse auto,gid=1002,umask=0002 0
[02:21] <xtknight> AMD, umm use the 'user' option perhaps?  i'm not really sure...
[02:22] <bruenig> lisapc, explain the issue
[02:22] <xtknight> AMD, believe you want umask=0022?
[02:22] <IamUnsai1> Is there anyone who can help me with a problem?  I am trying to get a working driver for my graphics, Intel 945GM Express chipset.  It is supposed to use the i810 driver, but it causes x server to fail so I have to use vesa, which is almost as old as I am
[02:22] <brando> AMD 64 here
[02:22] <xtknight> brando, athlon 64 processor using amd64 arch or i386 arch?
[02:22] <brando> amd64
[02:22] <brando> arch
[02:22] <AMD> i have changed it from /dev/hda2 /media/bkup ntfs-fuse auto,gid=1002,umask=0002 0 0  to /dev/hda2 /media/bkup ext3-fuse auto,gid=1002,umask=0002 0 0
[02:22] <xtknight> brando, it's an athlon not a Core 2 Duo too right?
[02:23] <davascript_home> arent there any radius server packages for ubunt
[02:23] <brando> correct
[02:23] <bruenig> AMD, was is the fuse stuff
[02:23] <bruenig> s/was/what/
[02:23] <lisapc> bruenig, ok ty
[02:23] <brando> dual core amd64 4000+
[02:23] <xtknight> brando, not really sure as that problem is common with Core 2s but i don't think they ever found a solution (yet)
[02:23] <AMD> bruenig:i dont know
[02:23] <bruenig> AMD, what is the filesystem
[02:23] <xtknight> AMD, i thought you said it was ext3
[02:23] <AMD> its is
[02:23] <IamUnsai1> is there anyone that can help with my problem?
[02:23] <brando> can you just have it run one processor perhaps?
[02:23] <xtknight> brando, yes 'nosmp' kernel option
[02:24] <bruenig> AMD, /dev/hda2 /media/bkup ext3 defaults 0 0
[02:24] <bruenig> or whatever else options you want, but it should just be ext3
[02:24] <lisapc> bruenig, whenever I try to run Azuerus and update it or install plugins, it says permission denied.  it works if I run sudo azuerues. but isnt that a security risk?  How can I give myself persmission to run azuerus normally with uopdate ability etc?
[02:24] <Daem> I would like to mount an Nforce raid that's partitioned as NTFS, can anyone point me in the right direction? (Ubuntu is installed on a different drive)
[02:24] <xtknight> brando, you may also want to try 'noacpi nolapic acpi=off noapic irqpoll' ... various combos of them anyhow
[02:24] <brando> ok thx ill give it a shot
[02:24] <harry__> I am trying to login to my computer from a windoze box with a live cd, using the terminal/server client app, but it won't show my computer
[02:24] <AMD> so it should be /dev/hda2 /media/bkup ext3           not            /dev/hda2 /media/bkup ext3-fuse auto,gid=1002,umask=0002 0 0
[02:24] <bruenig> lisapc, how did you install azureus
[02:24] <xtknight> brando, do you know how to boot using different kernel params?
[02:25] <brando> wiht f6 correct?
[02:25] <Jetfighter> Is Linux XP a distribution of Linux?
[02:25] <Loof> Is there a mini-install CD? My laptop is not having a good time /w the oversized std. install CD?
[02:25] <lisapc> Jetfighter, u should not run anything like firefox etc as root.  read the topic in context bfore you pass juydgement
[02:25] <xtknight> brando, hrm well depends where you are i guess
[02:25] <bruenig> AMD, the filesystem is wrong, as far as the options, that is on you, but yes ext3 not ext3-fuse
[02:25] <_Digi_> Can anyone help me with a GIMP problem?
[02:25] <Loof> i.e. a pure install like debian-installer
[02:25] <xtknight> brando, this is the livecd crashing?
[02:25] <lisapc> bruenig, i dl the package and installed it manusally
[02:25] <bruenig> Jetfighter, did you seriously just ask that question
[02:25] <IamUnsai1> Is there anyone that can help with my X Server issue?
[02:25] <xtknight> Loof, oversized?  how do you mean that exactly?
[02:25] <davascript_home> yea he did
[02:25] <brando> i thnik so its the iso i dled from the ubuntu website.  the x64 version obviously
[02:25] <bruenig> lisapc, was it a deb or what
[02:25] <OrcD3vil> Does anyone have some time to possibly help me with a partitioning problem on ubuntu install?
[02:26] <lisapc> bruenig, i wanted the latest azuer not the old apt-get
[02:26] <xtknight> Loof, there is an alternate text only install though i dont believe it's a mini install or anything
[02:26] <Jetfighter> bruenig, YES I DID
[02:26] <AMD> bruenig: is this correct            /dev/hda1 /media/mediafiles ntfs-fuse auto,gid=1002,umask=0002 0 0
[02:26] <AMD> /dev/hda2 /media/bkup ext3
[02:26] <lisapc> bruenig, yes
[02:26] <Loof> xt: It's a 700+M image
[02:26] <Loof> xt: A standard CD is 650M
[02:26] <bruenig> AMD, ntfs-fuse is not something I am aware of, now maybe it is some ntfs rw driver or something but by default ntfs should work
[02:26] <Loof> in fact, I had to enable overburn on k3b to burn it
[02:26] <lisapc> bruenig, soprry, it was a tar
[02:27] <bruenig> lisapc, ok and where did you install it?
[02:27] <xtknight> Loof, ahh... so you didnt have any 700M cds with ya?
[02:27] <rbil> how does one turn off crash reports in Edgy? And stop placing dumps in /var/crash ? Is Edgy running in debug mode or something?
[02:27] <lisapc> bruenig, I untareed it and ran ./configure
[02:27] <AMD> bruenig: ntfs works its just ext3
[02:27] <lisapc> bruenig, into home/stuff/azuerus
[02:27] <AMD> ok time for reboot
[02:27] <IamUnsai1> Anybody that can help me with a X Server issue involving Intel graphics chipset 845GM Express?
[02:27] <bruenig> lisapc, azureus does not ./configure, I installed it manually before, it was just extract and move, maybe link me to this package
[02:27] <xtknight> rbil, it's not really debugging it's just dumping.  why disable?
[02:27] <lisapc> bruenig, sorry i meant. /home/understame/stuff/azuerus
[02:28] <Loof> xt: I have them yes... my LAPTOP doesn't like 'em
[02:28] <xtknight> rbil, if it's crashing a lot you may want to report a bug
[02:28] <IamUnsai1> 945GM Express*
[02:28] <lisapc> bruenig,  yeah you are right. sorry for memory lapse
[02:28] <rbil> xtknight: because it's annoying. Dapper was stable. Edgy ... well apps for no apparent reason just shutdown.
[02:28] <Loof> So I want just a simple install CD
[02:28] <Loof> no live CD
[02:28] <lisapc> bruenig, http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
[02:28] <Loof> nothing fancy
[02:28] <Loof> just an installer
[02:28] <robertcdh> anyone know why the ubuntu window list would no longer blink newly opened window buttons?
[02:28] <lisapc> bruenig, thats the one I download foe linux
[02:28] <xtknight> rbil, disabling /var/crash isnt going to fix that though.  downgrade to dapper?
[02:28] <bruenig> lisapc, ok so it is installed where then?
[02:28] <Billious> xtknight: figured it out
[02:29] <xtknight> Billious, yeah?  sorry fill me in, i forgot what you were asking
[02:29] <kittiwake> Which Ubuntu forum would be appropriate for an issue with Feisty (non-developer)?
[02:29] <robertcdh> OrcD3vil:  what kind of partitioning problem?
[02:29] <lisapc> bruenig, /home/maria/stuff/azuerus
[02:29] <xtknight> Billious, oh the dpkg reconf thing..
[02:29] <rbil> xtknight: I know it won't fix anything. But surely there's a way to disable this "feature"
[02:29] <Billious> gksudo -D"Mail configuration" -p | sudo -S dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -fgnome postfix
[02:29] <bruenig> lisapc, you should have the ability to write to that directory
[02:29] <enlightenedpsych> Anyone can help me out on how to translate my ubuntu, I changed the language to english into the language support
[02:29] <lisapc> bruenig, well it saus permisssion denied
[02:29] <bruenig> lisapc, do sudo chmod +w -R /home/maria/stuff/azureus
[02:29] <lisapc> bruenig, whenever I try to update azur or instyall plugins. permission denied
[02:29] <stodge> Hi - Firefox refuses to open PDFs but Epiphany works fine. I haven't changed anything recently. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks
[02:30] <rbil> xtknight: and every crash like this adds more to the swap partition
[02:30] <Zenerek> so can anyone tell what is wrong with this command      usermod name -G groupname    (the man doc is a bit vague for this command)
[02:30] <calc> are their beryl 0.2 debs for feisty?
[02:30] <harry__> how do I get a box running under a live cd to recognize my computer for the terminal server client app?
[02:30] <calc> erm there
[02:30] <xtknight> rbil, i guess i dont see the point of disabling /var/crash.  are you saying you'd rather deal with the crashes and have some more free space?
[02:30] <Loof> Hmm
[02:30] <xtknight> rbil, i dont know the answer to your question, though
[02:30] <Billious> goodnight all, thanks for the help!
[02:30] <crimsun> calc: see #ubuntu-effects (yes)
[02:30] <rbil> xtknight: when firefox closes down, I certainly don't need to be reminded it crashed :-)
[02:30] <Loof> Is there seriously no media other than the 700+M 'install' CD?
[02:30] <calc> crimsun: thx, btw hi long time no see ;)
[02:30] <Loof> I'm looking around, and I see bits and pieces... but no other images
[02:30] <crimsun> calc: hi to you, too.
[02:30] <xtknight> Loof, for ubuntu, i dont think so
[02:30] <enlightenedpsych> anyone can help me out on how to translate my ubuntu, I changed the language to english into language support but my profile still in french as much of the applications I have
[02:30] <xtknight> Loof, the alternate is also 700M+ right?
[02:31] <Loof> I don't even see an alternate
[02:31] <rbil> xtnight: I'm assuming that dropping stuff in swap makes one able to then restore the app to its previous state?
[02:31] <bruenig> lisapc, also do sudo chown maria:maria -R /home/maria/stuff/azureus
[02:31] <Zenerek> actually i have a dvd that came with a book
[02:31] <lisapc> bruenig, i just notived its trying to use: .azuerus/plugins
[02:31] <smo> hi all i have a asrock dual vsta motherboard when  i plug a usb 2 key (pny with good speed 28x) it s damn slow i can t but my customized ubuntu form it, works normally at home with an asus motherboard any idear??
[02:31] <jrib> enlightenedpsych: when you login, click on options.  Ther should be settings for language there
[02:31] <Loof> Where would I find it?
[02:31] <smo> from*
[02:31] <sakobatoneko> how can i change the root password
[02:31] <sakobatoneko> ?
[02:32] <jrib> !root | sakobatoneko
[02:32] <smo> sudo passwd
[02:32] <ubotu> sakobatoneko: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:32] <robertcdh> Zenerek:  the -G should be followed by a list of groups separated by commas
[02:32] <real_aussie> back again: using tcpdump it gives:
[02:32] <real_aussie> 11:26:13.650851 arp who-has c210-49-37-152.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au tell c210-49-37-1.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au
[02:32] <real_aussie> 11:26:13.697376 IP c210-49-85-200.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au.1097 > dns.syd.optusnet.com.au.domain:  51591+ PTR? 245.65.49.210.in-addr.arpa. (44)
[02:32] <real_aussie> 11:26:13.723282 IP dns.syd.optusnet.com.au.domain > c210-49-85-200.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au.1097:  51591 1/2/2 (167)
[02:32] <sethk> sakobatoneko, sudo passwd.
[02:32] <xtknight> Loof, http://releases.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/ alternate  it's 698M though
[02:32] <real_aussie> & lots mor like that:
[02:32] <real_aussie> Is this my PC sending out crap or is it incoming?
[02:32] <euclid__> i got a weird problem with my sound... one day i was randomly pressing keys on my keyboard to find a command of mplayer, when suddenly the sound disappeared... anyone has any suggestion?
[02:32] <jrib> !paste | real_aussie
[02:32] <ubotu> real_aussie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:32] <xtknight> rbil, not sure why it's making swap bigger
[02:32] <OrcD3vil> robertcdh, I was just wanting to ask some questions on my hardware and what I want to do what is the best method to do partitioning
[02:32] <CharonX> Can anyone recommend a webcam ? Something that could work out of the box with Ubuntu and skype ?
[02:32] <xtknight> rbil, writing to swap rather
[02:32] <nexousNET> Does anyone know how to install .PCF fonts?
[02:32] <nexousNET> that or .FON fonts
[02:32] <Loof> Seems kinda silly
[02:33] <lisapc> bruenig, shall I type your command in /home/maria/.azuerus/plugins?
[02:33] <Loof> Maybe a flash based installer?
[02:33] <xtknight> Loof, i dont think so.  i mean most drives do 700M without an issue
[02:33] <rbil> xtknight: I'm assuming, maybe wrongly, it's what then enables one to restore the app???
[02:33] <Newbi1> hey!!! can any1 help me to optimise my graphics,the refresh rates are terrible, and whenever  i minimize programs i get black flashing! thanks
[02:33] <enlightenedpsych> jrib ty i'll try that
[02:33] <nrdb> does anyone know if Linux supports the 'AMD opteron' 'power now' feature ?
[02:33] <bruenig> lisapc, what are you doing, are you telling me now that the directory that all this is installed in is /home/maria/.azureus
[02:33] <xtknight> Loof, there is a program that lets you install ubuntu off a windows boot sector somehow.  cant remember the name atm
[02:33] <sethk> Newbi1, start by running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:33] <Jetfighter> I downloaded a theme thats in a .deb...What do I do with it?
[02:34] <robertcdh> OrcD3vil:  I've used the default partitioning scheme and it's been just fine.  Having a separate partition for home can sometimes come in useful.  What were you planning?
[02:34] <xtknight> nrdb, yes i believe it does but i'm not sure how to configure it properly
[02:34] <lisapc> bruenig, no!  but for some reason its also using /home/maria/.azureus/plugins folder
[02:34] <rbil> xtknight: that's ok. but this idea of dropping crash files onto my hard drive, I'm not happy with. I'd like to be able to turn off that "feature"
[02:34] <bruenig> Jetfighter, sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[02:34] <Loof> No windows boot sector on that machine ;)
[02:34] <Jetfighter> ok
[02:34] <Newbi1> ok
[02:34] <xtknight> nrdb, i think it's called Cool 'n Quiet for amd64
[02:34] <lisapc> bruenig, it seems to be using 2 folders for plugins when I just checked the plugins in azur
[02:34] <xtknight> rbil, sorry not sure how
[02:34] <bruenig> lisapc, you should already have write permissions there but yeah you can do those same commands there to, but do them to .azureus not to the plugins, it includes the plugins directory too
[02:34] <nrdb> xtknight: just wondering, looking at getting one sometime.
[02:35] <lisapc> bruenig, ok ty :)_
[02:35] <lisapc> brb
[02:35] <Newbi1> says it has to be run as a root? i have a funny feeling im suppose to know what that meens, but i dont
[02:35] <OrcD3vil> robertcdh, Well my goal is to *test* a webserver with apache 1.3/php/mysql/phpmyadmin with FTP for users to their home directory and a public FTP Folder for upload/download along with a shoutcast server.  I have a 40 gig sata and 2x 200 gig IDE drives
[02:35] <rbil> xtknight: funny, but can't find anything in the Ubuntu Forums about this behavior. So I don't know whether this is a gnome "feature" or something new in the o/s itself?
[02:35] <lisapc> bruenig, do i need to include the / on the end?
[02:35] <xtknight> rbil, firefox feature i thought
[02:35] <OrcD3vil> robertcdh, got to grab some food brb in 5 do you think we can do this convo in private?
[02:36] <Joshooa> Does anybody know of any virtual aquarium software for linux so I can virtually have an aquarium that's not just a screen saver?
[02:36] <xtknight> nrdb, CONFIG_X86_POWERNOW_K8 and CONFIG_X86_POWERNOW_K8_ACPI kernel options
[02:36] <bruenig> lisapc, if you want, will work either way
[02:36] <lisapc> bruenig, ok
[02:36] <xtknight> nrdb, k8=opteron
[02:36] <rbil> xtknight: that's what I thought too, until Skype just crashed on it's own and it too dumped to /var/crash, increased swap usage and allowed me to restore
[02:36] <smo> can t find it joshooa lol
[02:36] <smo> impossible
[02:36] <xtknight> rbil, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=var+crash+dump+debian&btnG=Google+Search
[02:36] <robertcdh> OrcD3vil:  sure, I'll be running out in about a half hour though
[02:36] <Zenerek> i followed the G with one group because that is what i needed, i have the intial group for the user as dialout and i wanted to add the new firestarter group i created with addgroup, don't tell me you have to add more than one group after -G
[02:36] <smo> 2 months ago don t know for now...
[02:37] <Joshooa> smo dang
[02:37] <OrcD3vil> robertcdh, thnx
[02:37] <tovella> Joshooa: do you mean something like an animated background for your desktop?
[02:37] <harry> on the Terminal/Server Client app on the Ubuntu Live CD greys out the XDMCP protocol. How do I enable it?
[02:37] <xtknight> !info apport | rbil
[02:37] <AMD> hi.i staill cant creat a file on my extc3 mount
[02:37] <ubotu> rbil: apport: automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 0.28 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 156 kB
[02:37] <xtknight> rbil, maybe that's what you want to disable or uninstal.  apport package
[02:37] <AMD> i have to be root ?
[02:37] <harry> Do I need to install?
[02:38] <Joshooa> tovella: No something i can have to like, feel like I have an aquarium, so I can put fish and crap in it and play with it.  Like High Times where you grow pot, but with fish
[02:38] <nrdb> xtknight: thanks,
[02:38] <Joshooa> Also, how do I make Gaim and GMail notifier open when I log into Ubuntu?
[02:38] <robertcdh> ZenereK:  I'm no expert but from what I read you use the -g to set the initial login group and -G to LIST all supplementary groups.  It says that the user will be removed from any group you don't list.
[02:39] <bruenig> Joshooa, system>preferences>sessions go to the startup tab
[02:39] <xtknight> nrdb, or symlink /var/crash to /dev/null?
[02:39] <lisapc> bruenig, I typed those 2 command, but Azuerus says:  Error! Failed t install update - /home/maria/,azuerus/plugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar (permission denied)
[02:39] <brando> xtknight those combinations didnt do anything for me. any other ideas?
[02:39] <brando> is there another install method
[02:39] <lisapc> bruenig, any other ideas pls?
[02:39] <rbil> xtknight: thanks ... led me to this ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[02:39] <robertcdh> Would anyone know why my window list buttons no longer blink orange when a window needs attention?
[02:39] <xtknight> brando, sorry cant remember your question.  recap?
[02:39] <bruenig> lisapc, is that a comma before azureus
[02:39] <AMD> can any one help .i want to be able to creat a file on my extc3 mount with out having to be root
[02:40] <tovella> Joshooa: as for the aquarium, thing... sounds like that could be really interesting.
[02:40] <brando> cant access tty; job control turned off
[02:40] <lisapc> bruenig, i did the sudo chmod +w -R  command and the sudo chown maria:maria
[02:40] <brando> on initial boot
[02:40] <lgc> Why does aptitude (or apt-get, for that matter) tells me it is done removing a package (Scilab), but I can still run it?
[02:40] <xtknight> brando, ahh hrmm.. not really any other ideas besides searching ubuntu forums or launchpad
[02:40] <lisapc> bruenig, dont worry about the comma! my typo
[02:40] <Joshooa> bruenig: Awesome thank you
[02:40] <brando> thx for the help
[02:40] <sethk> brando, the o/s didn't come up fully into multiuser mode
[02:40] <Joshooa> tovella: I think so, like a game type thing.  It will also help me learn about how to not kill my expensive fish when I get them
[02:40] <sethk> brando, any error messages?  run dmesg, look for something helpful
[02:40] <lisapc> bruenig, it says: Error! Failed t install update - /home/maria/.azuerus/plugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar (permission denied)
[02:40] <brando> no multiuser mode
[02:41] <Newbi1> how to i run something as a root?
[02:41] <lisapc> bruenig, im open for any other suggestions
[02:41] <brando> i have (initramfs) up right now
[02:41] <bruenig> Newbi1, gksu whatever
[02:41] <userund> Newbi1, put sudo in front of the command
[02:41] <brando> gets there every time
[02:41] <lgc> Newbi1, sudo <command>
[02:41] <AMD> Newbi1:sudo su
[02:41] <AMD> Newbi1: sudo -i
[02:41] <bruenig> Newbi1, command line sudo, graphical applications gksu
[02:41] <tovella> Joshooa: something like SimCity but for fish.
[02:41] <real_aussie> I get lots of internet even when no user apps are running: typicaly tcpdump is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10703/ There's at least 3 types of message: "IP dns...", "IP c210..." and "arp who-has ..." How do I stop these?
[02:41] <sethk> brando, this is seen when using the busybox shell; that in turn happens when boot up doesn't complete normally
[02:41] <Newbi1> ok thanks
[02:42] <bruenig> lisapc, what does ls -l /home/maria/.azureus/ | grep plugins give you
[02:42] <AMD> no one can help me with my extc mount
[02:42] <AMD> ?
[02:42] <xtknight> rbil, i was saying if removing apport didnt work you could also try symlinking /var/crash to /dev/null ...
[02:42] <Jetfighter> Where can I find a theme that looks like windows XP?
[02:42] <LordKeiden> does 64bit linux run significantly faster that 32bit?
[02:42] <bruenig> Jetfighter, art.gnome.org gnome-look.org
[02:42] <xtknight> Jetfighter, why not compile that xpde environment you were speaking of earlier?
[02:42] <lisapc> bruenig, drwxr-xr-x
[02:42] <lgc> Why does aptitude (or apt-get, for that matter) tells me it is done removing a package (Scilab), but I can still run it?
[02:43] <Jetfighter> I don't know how xtknight
[02:43] <xtknight> LordKeiden, no
[02:43] <robertcdh> AMD:  do you mount it with the 'user' option?
[02:43] <bruenig> lisapc, did you run that chmod command on /home/maria/.azureus like I said
[02:43] <brando> maybe this will help.   cp: unable to open'/root/var/log/' no such file than it tries to mount 3x and fails
[02:43] <xtknight> LordKeiden, on most CPUs 32bit is actually faster for most things
[02:43] <lisapc> bruenig, i did the sudo chmod +w -R  command and the sudo chown maria:maria
[02:43] <Death_Sargent> my built in wifi wont work, I tried using wifi radar to disconect and then reconect and now it wwont work at all, iwconfig shows my system still sais it is there
[02:43] <AMD>  robertcdh:i reboot and fint it there
[02:43] <bruenig> lisapc, paste the whole line
[02:43] <AMD> but yeh sudo mount/media
[02:43] <Jetfighter> xtknight, can you help me compile it?
[02:43] <Joshooa> tovella: Yeah pretty much, pick some stuff to put in the tank, pick some fish, feed them and check water stats now and then or they die, that'd be awesome, as real as possible without any money involve
[02:43] <Joshooa> involved*
[02:43] <xtknight> Jetfighter, probably ;)
[02:43] <LordKeiden> xtknight, is that just because 64bit is not mature?
[02:43] <Newbi1> how important is this xserver? apprantly not installed
[02:43] <agracey> what do I need to add to xorg.conf to get my tablet's pen to control the mouse
[02:44] <lisapc> bruenig, sudo chmod +w -R /home/maria/.azureus
[02:44] <Jetfighter> xtknight, go on then. What do I do?
[02:44] <sethk> brando, it's all part of the same problem.  The failure to mount /var/log isn't the cause, though.  The cause will be much earlier
[02:44] <blind> I need some help sharing my wifi with my Playstation 2 via a crossover cable.
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> xserver is the heart without it little to knothing will work
[02:44] <sethk> brando, can you paste the dmesg output to the paste web site?
[02:44] <bruenig> lisapc, the whole line of output on that ls -l command
[02:44] <xtknight> LordKeiden, not really, it's becaues of 64bit itself.  bigger registers, it's not always faster.  for floating point calculations it has some advantages.  also modern CPUs like the Core 2 Duo run 32-bit code faster due to more optimizations (maybe 5-8% faster than 64bit mode)
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> my built in wifi wont work, I tried using wifi radar to disconect and then reconect and now it wwont work at all, iwconfig shows my system still sais it is there
[02:44] <Newbi1> ahh, guess thats y ubuntu looks like poo
[02:44] <lisapc> bruenig, and the other was:   sudo chown maria:maria -R /home/maria/.azureus
[02:44] <xtknight> Jetfighter, grab the source tarball
[02:44] <bruenig> lisapc, the whole line of output on that ls -l command
[02:44] <Jetfighter> Huh
[02:44] <lgc> nalioth, you there?
[02:45] <Death_Sargent> please help
[02:45] <brando> sethk pls hold my hand quick on this
[02:45] <xtknight> Jetfighter, http://www.xpde.com/releases.php
[02:45] <lisapc> bruenig, ok its: drwxr-xr-x 2 maria maria    4096 2007-03-17 10:19 plugins
[02:45] <nalioth> lgc: hi
[02:45] <sethk> brando, you can capture dmesg output to a file, as follows:      dmesg > filename
[02:45] <xtknight> Jetfighter, xpde-0.5.1.tar.gz [ 4,726,057 bytes]   i think looks like the latest
[02:45] <Death_Sargent> i seriously need wifi working
[02:45] <bruenig> lisapc, ok you should be able to write to it
[02:45] <lgc> nalioth, long time no see!
[02:45] <brando> ok
[02:45] <Jetfighter> I downloaded that, what do I do with it?
[02:45] <nalioth> lgc: in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:45] <sethk> brando, then, hopefully, you can get that file onto a machine where you can edit the file, and copy and paste into your browser to put it up on the paste site.
[02:46] <xtknight> Jetfighter, open a terminal to where you downloaded it
[02:46] <lisapc> bruenig, but Azureus says:  Error! Failed t install update - /home/maria/.azuerus/plugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar (permission denied)
[02:46] <sethk> brando, the paste site URL is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, I believe
[02:46] <agracey> Death_Sargent: have you updated your install
[02:46] <brando> thx
[02:46] <bruenig> lisapc, well that is an azureus bug
[02:46] <nalioth> Jetfighter: good luck getting xpde to run
[02:46] <sanityx> anybody here running ubuntu/ubuntu server on sparc?
[02:46] <Newbi1> was wondering maybe some1 could tell me where i can get this xserver thing, unless its some elite club
[02:46] <lgc> nalioth, (I thought you were retired). Before you shove me off, perhaps you can help me on-topic.
[02:46] <Joshooa> so what file do I choose for my startup to start Gaim?
[02:46] <bruenig> lisapc, try that chmod command but put the / at the end of .azureus
[02:46] <Death_Sargent> agracey: no i "my built in wifi wont work, I tried using wifi radar to disconect and then reconect and now it wwont work at all, iwconfig shows my system still sais it is there"
[02:46] <agracey> once I updated my wifi started working
[02:46] <nalioth> lgc: just ask your question, i'm sure we can fix you up
[02:46] <robertcdh> AMD:  your problem will probably be solved by modifying your /etc/fstab file.  Check 'man fstab' and 'man mount'
[02:46] <lisapc> bruenig, but if i load azur as root from terminal, it doesnt give me any errors
[02:46] <xtknight> nalioth, is it known to be impossible to use xpde or sometihng?
[02:46] <userund> Newbi1, you've got ubuntu installed?  then you already have xserver unless you installed the server ubuntu.
[02:47] <blind> Joshooa: using KDE or Gnome?
[02:47] <Death_Sargent> i am at latest state
[02:47] <lisapc> bruenig, ok brb
[02:47] <lgc> nalioth, Why does aptitude (or apt-get, for that matter) tells me it is done removing a package (Scilab), but I can still run it?
[02:47] <Lupin> I have a quick question about the nvidia drivers. Im not running any Linux atm but any time I do I always hit a road block where I install the drives from NVIDIA but it messes up my xorg.conf. I notice that on the synaptic there is a package for NVIDIA but is it the same/as good?
[02:47] <LordKeiden> xtknight, so why all the hype i see lately about 64bit on the desktop? if my system maxs out at 2GB of ram, there's no benefit it seems.
[02:47] <Death_Sargent> i run update manager i get nothing
[02:47] <xtknight> LordKeiden, youre right there really isn't for most stuff
[02:47] <nalioth> xtknight: i've tried many times to get xpde to run, but they don't offer any buildable source code
[02:47] <Jetfighter> xtknight, I am there, no what?
[02:47] <nalioth> lgc: how did you install it in the first place?
[02:47] <rbil> xtknight: for your information ... there's a file /etc/default/apport where apport can be enabled or disabled
[02:47] <xtknight> rbil, cool
[02:47] <blind> Lupin: after installing the nVidia drivers, it's good to manually edit your xorg, as the nvidia tool can sometimes make mistakes.
[02:47] <Jetfighter> xtknight, I am there, now what?
[02:47] <lgc> nalioth, by apt-get, if I recall right.
[02:48] <xtknight> Jetfighter, i dont know, first i've got to figure out if xpde is even compile-able
[02:48] <LordKeiden> xtknight, that sucks. Well, thanks anyhow
[02:48] <Jetfighter> >.<
[02:48] <userund> !fishing > userund
[02:48] <nalioth> lgc: i'm not sure.
[02:48] <Joshooa> blind: gnome
[02:48] <blind> lgc: apt-get remove program --purge  (thats what you're doing, right?)
[02:48] <xtknight> LordKeiden, what sucks?
[02:48] <lisapc> bruenig, still says permission denied
[02:48] <nalioth> xtknight: let me know if you figure it out
[02:48] <rbil> xtknight: assume apport server would have to be restarted after making a change?
[02:48] <agracey> Death_Sargent: if you have access to a wired connection just update wireless assistant... in add/remove programs
[02:48] <Death_Sargent> agracey: I am all the way up to date
[02:48] <blind> Joshooa: System > Preferences > Sessions
[02:48] <Lupin> blind im not very savvy when it comes to that stuff what would I need to change?
[02:48] <sanityx> Has ubuntu 6.10 completely replaced init with upstart?
[02:48] <lisapc> bruenig, maybe its not changing permissions to the sub folders~ whats another command?
[02:48] <lgc> blind, "aptitude remove", actually. I've shifted to aptitude...:).
[02:48] <Lupin> it says something about device nv or nvidia not found xserver couldnt be started
[02:48] <blind> lgc: ah
[02:49] <agracey> Death_Sargent: what chip are you using
[02:49] <Death_Sargent> agracey: atheros built in
[02:49] <Jetfighter> xtknight, do you know yet
[02:49] <xtknight> LordKeiden, all the latest cpus are 64bit.  i dont think it's that you spent all your money on 64bit and didnt get anything, or sometihng like that.  the latest CPUs are the fastest.
[02:49] <blind> Lupin: make sure your card is compatible with the drivers.
[02:49] <LordKeiden> xtknight, that I have a 64 bit CPU and have no real benefit over a 32bit at simular clock speeds
[02:49] <Lupin> it is its a 6600
[02:49] <Joshooa> blind: Okay, I did that
[02:49] <blind> Lupin: should work fine. you're using the correct pci bus, right?
[02:49] <Lupin> at least I was under the impression it was
[02:49] <xtknight> Jetfighter, no
[02:49] <Joshooa> blind:  But I don't know what file to pick, I got to /usr/lib/ whatever into gaim
[02:49] <Death_Sargent> agracey : it has worked flawlessly until I tried using WIFI radar to set my connection
[02:49] <Joshooa> but there's so many folders, and I'm used to selecting exes
[02:49] <nalioth> lisapc: what are you working on?
[02:49] <brando> hwo doyou direct a message to a user with :
[02:49] <blind> Joshooa: /usr/bin/gaim
[02:49] <Lupin> umm i just have it run the package from nvidia it never asked about location
[02:50] <bruenig> lisapc, ok it appears to be this problem: sudo chmod a+w
[02:50] <lisapc> bruenig, when I load Nautilus and look at permissions, says it belongs to root
[02:50] <xtknight> Jetfighter, to be honest with you it's pretty weird.  i dont know how to compile it
[02:50] <bruenig> lisapc, put the a in there
[02:50] <agracey> Death_Sargent: have you uninstalled wifi radar
[02:50] <lisapc> nalioth,  hello :)
[02:50] <Jetfighter> OMG.
[02:50] <blind> Lupin: yeah, you're gonna have to find out what the pci bus address is for your card, then edit your xorg to match.
[02:50] <Lupin> ok
[02:50] <Lupin> whats the command for PCI device list?
[02:50] <mjr> lspci
[02:50] <Death_Sargent> agracey: yes
[02:50] <xtknight> Lupin, lspci
[02:50] <blind> lspci
[02:50] <LordKeiden> xtknight, i just ran a test on grc.com, securable, that told me that my sempron cpu is a 64bit. For about 5 minutes I had visions of a 40% speed boost on linux...
[02:50] <Lupin> ok cool
[02:51] <lisapc> nalioth, when I try to update or install plugins for azurues, it says:  Error! Failed t install update - /home/maria/.azuerus/plugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar (permission denied)
[02:51] <lisapc> nalioth, and we cant figure out why
[02:51] <bruenig> lisapc, I just told you why
[02:51] <Lupin> ill keep that in mind next time I  get the hankering to use UBUNTU or any linux distro
[02:51] <Lupin> ty
[02:51] <xtknight> LordKeiden, not for anything except scientific/math apps
[02:51] <lisapc> bruenig, so just type sudo chmod a+w ?
[02:51] <nalioth> lisapc: have you asked in #azureus?
[02:51] <lisapc> nalioth, yes, they dont have a clue :P
[02:51] <bruenig> lisapc, sudo chmod a+w /home/maria/.azureus/
[02:51] <xtknight> LordKeiden, there are no 32bit cpus as fast as 64bit cpus atm though, so you didn't really waste your money
[02:51] <lisapc> bruenig, type sudo chmod a+w on its own>
[02:51] <lisapc> ?
[02:51] <lisapc> bruenig, ok brb
[02:51] <xtknight> nalioth, i dont know how to compile it.  looks like pascal, amazingly poor docs
[02:52] <Death_Sargent> agracey: i have uninstalled it
[02:52] <bruenig> lisapc, sorry forgot to put the -R in there: sudo chmod a+w -R /home/maria/.azureus/
[02:52] <nalioth> xtknight: yes, it's quite vexing, to say the least
[02:52] <blind> I need some help sharing my wifi with my Playstation 2 via a crossover cable.
[02:52] <sethk> LordKeiden, 64 bits gets you, maybe, 5%, often not even that much.
[02:52] <bjorn__> After I have installed ubuntu 32bit and reboot it wont boot. But the 64bit version works fine
[02:52] <sethk> bjorn__, run the 64 bit version?
[02:52] <lisapc> bruenig, ahh ok brb
[02:52] <agracey> Death_Sargent: ok well you are using a different chip than i so I have no clue. I am fairly new I just know wht I did
[02:52] <sethk> bjorn__, seriously, compile the kernel for the target processor
[02:52] <bjorn__> I'm running the 64bit now
[02:52] <LordKeiden> xtknight, so it would not be a great benefit to buy a turion cpu, except the larged L1 cache huh?
[02:52] <Jetfighter> xtknight, PM me.
[02:53] <lisapc> bruenig, do I need the other command you gave me too?
[02:53] <xtknight> Jetfighter, why?
[02:53] <agracey> Death_Sargent: sorry about that
[02:53] <Jetfighter> Because
[02:53] <bruenig> lisapc, the other command should have worked, I just tried this out on my computer
[02:53] <lisapc> bruenig, the maria:maria one?
[02:53] <bruenig> lisapc, it worked on mine, everything should be owned by you
[02:53] <lisapc> bruenig, i typed: sudo chmod a+w -R /home/maria/.azureus/  but do I need to type the maria:maria one too?
[02:54] <bruenig> lisapc, no
[02:54] <xtknight> Jetfighter, i can not PM you because your nickname is not registered, but i received your pm
[02:54] <sethk> lisapc, no,
[02:54] <Death_Sargent> agracey: its fine
[02:54] <Jetfighter> My nick is registered...
[02:54] <s|k> :/
[02:54] <tovella> lisapc: i'm still curious as to why you don't have "write" permissions in "/home/maria".  is that your home directory/folder?  it sounds like something was changed/screwed up, or the other possibilty...directory belongs to a different person.
[02:54] <Jetfighter> -NickServ- You have already identified
[02:54] <xtknight> Jetfighter, i guess mine wasn't
[02:54] <real_aussie> Anyone: apart from turning off the cable modem, how do I stop these messages chewing up my monthly bandwidth? "IP dns...", "IP c210..." and "arp who-has ..."
[02:54] <Death_Sargent> agracey: now please help me
[02:54] <xtknight> Jetfighter, sudo cp -a bin /usr/share/  if you really want to try it
[02:55] <lisapc> bruenig, says permission denied still :(
[02:55] <bruenig> tovella, so am I
[02:55] <nalioth> tovella: it may have something to do with how the azureus was extraced/installed
[02:55] <bruenig> lisapc, do the ls -l command again
[02:55] <xtknight> Jetfighter, just sounds like a bad idea to me.  there is no source code from what i can tell, making it potentially dangerous
[02:55] <sethk> lisapc, use sudo, as in   sudo chmod .....
[02:55] <nalioth> lisapc: can you and bruenig join me in #ubuntu-classroom ?
[02:55] <bruenig> nalioth, that is how I was thinking but .azureus should have been created afterwords
[02:55] <lisapc> tovella, yeah everything is ok in home !  but i keep getting Error! Failed t install update - /home/maria/.azuerus/plugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar (permission denied)
[02:55] <lisapc> bruenig, ok
[02:55] <davascript_home> ktorrent works better than azureus anyway
[02:56] <lisapc> bruenig, says drwxrwxrwx
[02:56] <arrenlex> Hey! I use ktorrent! It rules.
[02:56] <bruenig> lisapc, right, that means everybody can write to it
[02:56] <nalioth> lisapc: can you join us in #ubuntu-classroom ?
[02:56] <naught102> anyone know how to find a /dev/* device name once I know the info from lsusb?
[02:56] <bruenig> utorrent ftw
[02:56] <davascript_home> rtorrent hide it
[02:56] <lisapc> bruenig, i wonder why it says permission denied :P
[02:56] <davascript_home> your not the owner
[02:56] <blind> utorrent ftl
[02:56] <hyper-coo1> hey i managed to install ubuntu edgy eft but only using the alternative install cd. Now i can only boot in safemode because of some kind of ACPI exceptions or errors or something. is anyone familiar with this? i'm using the amd64 build
[02:57] <Zenerek> brake time
[02:57] <davascript_home> seems like you need to recompile your kernel or try passing acpi functions when installing
[02:57] <glick> excuse me does anyone know where i can get the latest version of gtk-gnutella for dapper
[02:57] <glick> the one supplied with dappre no longer works
[02:57] <nalioth> glick: have you looked in backports?
[02:58] <jrib> glick: doesn't the error message suggest what to do?
[02:58] <glick> nalioth, where would i look for that
[02:58] <davascript_home> uncomment backports in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:58] <Daem> I would like to mount an Nforce raid that's partitioned as NTFS, can anyone point me in the right direction? (Ubuntu is installed on a different drive)
[02:58] <davascript_home> glick:
[02:58] <glick> jrib, yeah i did what the message told me but it still doent work
[02:58] <davascript_home> glick: then update adept
[02:58] <youkilldkenned1> !MOUNT
[02:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:58] <glick> ok
[02:58] <jrib> glick: oh ok
[02:58] <youkilldkenned1> Why won't my blank CDs mount properly?
[02:58] <hyper-coo1> davascript_home: can you explain further what youe saying? im a linux noob
[02:59] <davascript_home> youkilldkenned1: you need to use mount -o loopback
[02:59] <arrenlex> youkilldkenned1: How do you mount a blank CD? There's no filesystem.
[02:59] <davascript_home> read man page it will tel lyou how to use loopback
[02:59] <davascript_home> oh yea blank
[02:59] <arrenlex> davascript_home: How do you mount a blank CD? There's no filesystem.
[02:59] <davascript_home> sorry i was thinking iso
[02:59] <youkilldkenned1> Hmm
[02:59] <davascript_home> you cant moutn a blank
[02:59] <youkilldkenned1> Well, my computer isn't reading CDs from my drive
[02:59] <Joshooa> which so file opens gaim?
[03:00] <glick> hmm it says that gtk-gnutella is already at the latest version
[03:00] <blind> I need some help sharing my wifi with my Playstation 2 via a crossover cable..
[03:01] <jrib> glick: I don't believe there is a gtk-gnutella package in dapper backports.  Can you pastebin the full error you received?
[03:01] <glick> jrib, where should i post it?
[03:01] <jrib> !paste | glick
[03:01] <ubotu> glick: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:01] <nalioth> glick: then you'll have to compile from source
[03:01] <hyper-coo1> dv8n11, can you explain what you mean or how to do that? you told me to recompile or boot without acpi.
[03:01] <dv8n11> mmm compile
[03:02] <dv8n11> well you would have to recomoile yoru kernel to add the acpi support
[03:02] <real_aussie> Help, please? Apart from turning off the cable modem, how do I stop these messages chewing up my monthly bandwidth? "IP dns...", "IP c210..." and "arp who-has ..." More text at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10703/
[03:02] <dv8n11> !kernel hyper-coo1
[03:02] <glick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10705/
[03:02] <glick> thats the error i get
[03:02] <ghatak> hello Guys, Does Ubuntu Provide drivers for Intel Media Accelerator 3000 On board graphic cards ?
[03:03] <Fossilet> HELLO>
[03:03] <dv8n11> hyper-cool i am not sure how to do it in ubuntu
[03:03] <edub> hi
[03:03] <glick> how can i get a root shell?
[03:04] <jrib> !root | glick
[03:04] <ubotu> glick: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:04] <dv8n11> normally it involves entering the directory with your kernel source and running make menuconfig  and such you shoudl read about it
[03:04] <jrib> glick: what does /home/dbunch/.gtk-gnutella/config_gnet look like?
[03:04] <shuffdog> can anyone troubleshoot wireless card problems under edgy eft?
[03:05] <dv8n11> shuffdog: does ti show up on dmesg
[03:05] <glick> cant i get a root shell so if i have to do a bunch of things as root i dont have to keep typing sudo?
[03:05] <dv8n11> su
[03:05] <jrib> glick: yes, I just told you how
[03:05] <edub> could  anyone help with a couple questions???
[03:06] <jrib> !ask | edub
[03:06] <edub> regarding running a live cd
[03:06] <ubotu> edub: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:06] <edub> well when i set boot to cdrom first,
[03:06] <jrib> !enter | edub
[03:06] <ubotu> edub: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:06] <blind> Having some issues trying to start Firestarter firewall. It says "The device eth0 is not ready. Please check your network device settings and make sure your Internet connection is active" -- im trying to SHARE the connection through eth0.
[03:06] <Fossilet> WHere is the run command item in the main menu?
[03:06] <xtknight> Fossilet, you can press alt F2 for a run box
[03:07] <Jaguar> jrib: Where do I get me one of those scripts? lol.
[03:07] <thugren> Hey Does anyone have Ubuntu running with a Soundblaster X-Fi SoundCard
[03:07] <thugren> ?
[03:07] <dv8n11> blind do yo uhave 2 nics
[03:07] <Fossilet> xtknight: I know, but what if I were a newbie ?
[03:07] <edub> the cd boots to an extent, scans usb, and etc and then leaves me in DR-DOS    A:\
[03:07] <xtknight> thugren, i dont think they have x-fi support yet
[03:07] <jrib> ubotu: tell Jaguar about yourself
[03:07] <xtknight> Fossilet, dont think there is a Run menu item
[03:07] <real_aussie> glick: if doing more than one thing: "sudo bash" then "exit" after you're finished
[03:07] <lgc> blind, nalioth, Scilab won't come off even with "aptitude purge scilab".
[03:07] <blind> dv8n11: yes. one wireless, one wired. trying to share my internet with my PS2
[03:07] <jrib> glick: sudo -i  is preferred to sudo bash
[03:07] <dv8n11> you mean internet in on wired and out on wirelss
[03:08] <nalioth> lgc: you may have to remove it by hand, but i'd be careful
[03:08] <shuffdog> dv8n11:  i'll write down dmesg and try it when i boot back into ubuntu.  i suppose that lists whether the hardware is detected, yes?  because the card is detected in the 'networking' utility in the main menu, among the ethernet card and the modem
[03:08] <blind> dv8n11: no. opposite.
[03:08] <zero88> Ah HA! i am BACK! finally i have gotten my laptop back from gay ass geek squad for a broken screen.i was so bored waiting i had to go out and buy me a new kawasaki ninja
[03:08] <Fossilet> xtknight: ......
[03:08] <eXcAliBuR> oh guys
[03:08] <Specialbuddy> how can I fix my xserver using a livecd?
[03:08] <eXcAliBuR> i'm having the hardest time installing java
[03:08] <lgc> nalioth, is there a dpkg option for that?
[03:08] <dv8n11> shuffdog: trim dmesg with grep  ie dmesg | grep wlan
[03:08] <Jaguar> jrib: Ooo, neat, time to do some reading.
[03:08] <xtknight> Fossilet, what?
[03:09] <dv8n11> shuffdog:
[03:09] <Fossilet> hello! why rcconf does not list all the run command script in /etc/init.d?
[03:09] <dv8n11> shuffdog: if it show up on the wirelss config then dmesg will show it '
[03:09] <glick> k
[03:09] <thugren> Damn.. I am want to install it for my main system but with out the support for that Soundblaster X-Fi? I am not up to waiting.. :( I must say The Ubuntu it works assome on my laptop.
[03:09] <thugren> ;)
[03:09] <Fossilet> e.g.: ntp-server
[03:09] <Specialbuddy> how can I fix my xserver using a livecd?
[03:09] <dac_> Hey guys. I installed Beryl yesterday and I just realized there was a new released. How can I check to see what release I'm currently using?
[03:10] <Fossilet> xtknight: I think there should be a run command menu
[03:10] <eXcAliBuR> need help installing java
[03:10] <xtknight> Fossilet, ehh me too but there isn't at least in GNOME
[03:10] <dv8n11> blind dont you have a router
[03:10] <tovella> zero88: welcome home
[03:10] <blind> dv8n11: I do, but it's upstairs.
[03:10] <xtknight> dac_, how did you install beryl?  debian repository?
[03:10] <Fossilet> is theer a rcconf substitution?
[03:10] <OzzyBB> hello all
[03:10] <rogue780_> I've installed edgy on my acer aspire 5100 and everything works except for wireless. I configured the wireless during setup, and I have even received an update notification...but ath0 isn't up. The Atheros wifi card is listed in the device manager, but I can't figure out how to get it working now that I've installed ubuntu. Can someone please help me?
[03:10] <bruenig> !hi | OzzyBB
[03:10] <ubotu> OzzyBB: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:10] <dac_> Knight, I think so.
[03:11] <shuffdog> dv8n11:  one other thing, i'm not getting eth0 or the wlan0 or whatever, just the loopback.
[03:11] <dac_> I'm not entirely sure. Someone walked me through.
[03:11] <OzzyBB> Nice to see such a friendly room
[03:11] <xtknight> dac_, check the version of the package.  `dpkg -s package-name-of-beryl`.  perhaps 'apt-cache search beryl' would point you towards the right package name
[03:11] <rogue780_> hey ozzy
[03:11] <dv8n11> shuffdog: you networkinghasnt started
[03:11] <rogue780_> what is up yo
[03:11] <OzzyBB> I-m trying ubuntu 6.06 in my Toshiba Tecra A6
[03:11] <OzzyBB> I-m using the Live CD
[03:11] <thugren> Well I should be  off later guys
[03:11] <peter77> I've just uninstalled the satanic theme and the old ubuntu startup splash has gone, now all I see is that horrible gnome splash!
[03:11] <xtknight> thugren, x-fi support is coming soon i believe
[03:11] <OzzyBB> By the way, greetings from Peru, South America
[03:11] <real_aussie> Is there anybody out there? Help, please? Apart from turning off the cable modem, how do I stop these messages chewing up my monthly bandwidth? "IP dns...", "IP c210..." and "arp who-has ..." More text at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10703/
[03:12] <dac_> Ah, it looks like I have 1.9
[03:12] <Fossilet> any one has the same problem with rcconf?
[03:12] <peter77> is there a way to get this back?
[03:12] <xtknight> peter77, gdm-setup ?
[03:12] <xtknight> peter77, gdmsetup rather
[03:12] <rogue780_> OzzyBB: how's the food down there? I've heard great things about peruvian food
[03:12] <shuffdog> Ozzy:  tell them hola for us
[03:12] <dac_> How would I go about upgrading to 2.0?
[03:12] <OzzyBB> Rogue, you should come over and try our cebiche
[03:12] <wilee85> I've installed edgy on my acer aspire 5100 and everything works except for wireless. I configured the wireless during setup, and I have even received an update notification...but ath0 isn't up. The Atheros wifi card is listed in the device manager, but I can't figure out how to get it working now that I've installed ubuntu. Can someone please help me?
[03:12] <xtknight> dac_, 0.1.9999 and 0.2.0 respectively
[03:12] <peter77> I've tried that
[03:13] <xtknight> dac_, so actually not even 1.0 yet
[03:13] <OzzyBB> Hey shuffdog, I will!
[03:13] <peter77> selescted human theme, still the same
[03:13] <Specialbuddy> how can I fix my xserver using a livecd?
[03:13] <shuffdog> : )
[03:13] <OzzyBB> I think I need some help here
[03:13] <wilee85> OzzyBB: I will. (i was formerly rogue780)
[03:13] <dac_> Oh, I'm sorry, that's what I meant.
[03:13] <dac_> 0.1.9999
[03:13] <voidmage> Specialbuddy: tried recovery mode and done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:13] <xtknight> dac_, about upgrading, perhaps the repository has a new version.  when it does, it should appear in the periodic updates you will get through update manager (along with the security updates, etc).  to check immediately do 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[03:13] <wilee85> join the club OzzyBB, I can't get wifi to work on my laptop
[03:13] <dac_> Thanks
[03:14] <OzzyBB> wilee, shuffdog, most everything is running fine... except it wont open my hard disk
[03:14] <jrib> glick: hi, did you paste that file? I got disconnected
[03:14] <xtknight> dac_, if you don't want to wait you will have to compile manually.  i would just wait unless there's something you need immediately that's in 0.20.0
[03:14] <Specialbuddy> voidmage, no I haven't tried that
[03:14] <dv8n11> i am just starting to use ubuntu how do you manage runlevels
[03:14] <OzzyBB> Cant test wifi here
[03:14] <Specialbuddy> I tried to do it in the regular one
[03:14] <dv8n11> like boot and defautl
[03:14] <tovella> OzzyBB: if you like ubuntu 6.06, just wait until 7.04 is released. i've been playing around with some alpha versions, and it's gonna be great.
[03:14] <peter77> does anyone know how to get the old ubuntu startup splash working?
[03:14] <dv8n11> add splash.xpm.gz to your /boot/grub
[03:14] <OzzyBB> tovella, I hope its as great as it sounds
[03:14] <wilee85> tovella: what do you think is the biggest advantage to 7.04 over the 6.x ?
[03:15] <xtknight> dv8n11, i think he means gdm
[03:15] <OzzyBB> But right now, I can not see the contents of my hard disk with my 6.06
[03:15] <xtknight> dv8n11, about run levels isnt it in the rc things somewhere?
[03:15] <dv8n11> then add the line splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz to grub.conf or menu.lst
[03:15] <xtknight> more or less standard linux runlevel stuff..
[03:15] <dac_> Oh wow, the update manager is amazing.
[03:15] <dac_> I didn't know that took care of other programs, too.
[03:15] <dv8n11> rc-update
[03:15] <OzzyBB> and my guess is, if it cant read my hard disk, it probably wont install
[03:15] <wastrel> "Ubunto"
[03:15] <voidmage> wtf is a ubunto
[03:16] <tovella> wilee85: there really are lots of them, but one of my favorites (for converts) is the migration assistant... to help migrate settings from windows to ubuntu.
[03:16] <wastrel> hi voidimage
[03:16] <xtknight> dac_, yup all the stuff you have repositories for (security, general apps, beryl or other third party apps).  'gksu update-manager' to use the GUI version, or it will appear periodically in the system tray
[03:16] <shuffdog> dv8n11, if all i was getting was a loopback, would iwconfig or iwlist get me anywhere?
[03:16] <dv8n11> iwconfig will show you your wlan
[03:16] <wilee85> OzzyBB: what steps have you taken to view the contents of your hard drive? and what file system does your hard drive currently employ?
[03:16] <dv8n11> if  your wired
[03:16] <xtknight> dac_, so is beryl 0.2.0 in the repositories?
[03:17] <OzzyBB> my laptop is less than six months old, its hard disk is a toshiba brand80 GB  SATA disk
[03:17] <blind> dv8n11: any other ideas?
[03:17] <wilee85> tovella: how stable would you say feisty is at its current release state?
[03:17] <bruenig> !feisty | wilee85
[03:17] <dac_> Ok, thanks.
[03:17] <dac_> It's in the update manager thing.
[03:17] <ubotu> wilee85: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:17] <wilee85> bruenig: thanks...I know what feisty is. I'm asking about first hand experiences right now
[03:18] <tovella> wilee85: i've already switched my server... nuf said?
[03:18] <OzzyBB> wilee, i can see the icon for my hard disk at the File Browser window
[03:18] <dv8n11> blind it seems you need to configure iptables correctly and pretty much turn you laptop into a router
[03:18] <bruenig> wilee85, Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:18] <shuffdog> dv8n11, i'm not wired now either (have a card though), so would it show me nothing?
[03:18] <OzzyBB> But, when I double/click on it, it shows me an error message
[03:18] <wilee85> tovella: indeed
[03:18] <OzzyBB> rror: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[03:18] <dv8n11> nah it shoudl show up shuffdog even if you not using it
[03:18] <Qweenz> hay.............
[03:18] <peter77> I've just uninstalled the satanic theme and the old ubuntu startup splash has gone, now!
[03:18] <peter77> Is there a way to get the startup splash back?
[03:19] <glick> jrib, yeah i got it working apparently gedit didnt save my changes from before
[03:19] <glick> thanks
[03:19] <jrib> glick: great
[03:19] <wilee85> bruenig: right...um, tovella brought it up in a conversation, and we were finishing the topic. sorry to go a little offtopic but not really
[03:19] <bruenig> peter77, if you uninstall the satanic theme, it replaces the old splash
[03:19] <tovella> wilee85: i should mention that there still are some problems with sound and LTSP, but i've been loving it since alpa 3 (herd3).
[03:19] <jrib> !usplash | peter77 , if that doesn't work
[03:19] <ubotu> peter77 , if that doesn't work: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:19] <peter77> I've uninstalled the satanic theme and it's not replaced the old splash
[03:19] <Fracture> is there any way to make the name column in nautilus default to a wider width ?   every time I open nautilus I have to make it wider to read the names
[03:20] <voidmage> peter77: sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash?
[03:20] <bruenig> peter77, it should have, I looked at the postrm script in the deb and it replaces everything
[03:20] <wilee85> tovella: right on. I wonder if i'd have better luck with my wifi using feisty. I'll have to go burn the image I downloaded
[03:20] <dv8n11> blind you might want to look into some routing docs.  i have tried to turn my server intoa router and it was a littel bit a pita
[03:20] <peter77> I mean the splash after you log in, not during boot up!
[03:20] <voidmage> oh, that
[03:20] <voidmage> check in your something
[03:20] <voidmage> i don't know where it is in GNOME
[03:20] <eXcAliBuR> why must i be so stupid?
[03:20] <tovella> wilee85: i'm totally convinced that April 19th (the release date) will be a great day.
[03:20] <dv8n11> iptables can be tricky and very frustratiing at first  try #iptables
[03:20] <wastrel> gnome it's configured in the gconf-editor
[03:20] <wastrel> "gnome's registry"
[03:21] <shuffdog> thanks dv8,  i'm outta here
[03:21] <OzzyBB> tovella, wilee, anyone?
[03:21] <aimee> i am having so much trouble installing java please help
[03:21] <voidmage> april 19th WILL be a great day
[03:21] <bruenig> aimee, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[03:22] <tovella> wilee85: i can tell you that one problem i have is network manager (on feisty) doesn't allow for multiple concurrent network connections.
[03:22] <wastrel> peter77:  http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8   question 8
[03:22] <dv8n11> np shuffdog you should look into why your eth0 isnt starting
[03:22] <real_aussie> Anyone? Is there a TCP-IP chat room that I can get help for interpreting a tcpdump?
[03:22] <wilee85> OzzyBB: ubuntu should probably install. I'd give it a go, but I'd recommend 6.10
[03:22] <dv8n11> #networking
[03:22] <eXcAliBuR> 30 mins ago <eXcAliBuR> i'm having the hardest time installing java
[03:22] <real_aussie> dv8n11: ta.
[03:22] <wilee85> tovella: thanks, fortunately I only need one
[03:22] <eXcAliBuR> >:(
[03:22] <OzzyBB> eehhh....... I dont have a fast connection where I am
[03:22] <shuffdog> i bet you i don't even have the eth0 card in
[03:23] <shuffdog> i think i replaced it with the wlan0
[03:23] <dv8n11> you should start both
[03:23] <wastrel> peter77:  default seems to be splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[03:23] <robbie_crash> what do I need to change this to so that files get copied to /media/tempo instead of /media/tempo/var: $ sudo cp /var -r  /media/tempo
[03:23] <OzzyBB> Until next month, when I get back home from my work site camp
[03:23] <dv8n11> well configure both correctly and they have to use differnet subnets
[03:23] <aimee> i tried in both add/remove and in synaptic both say it is missing a piece
[03:23] <peter77> thanx wastrel
[03:23] <VeganChick> Hi guys. Can someone help me set my resolution for my MacBook?
[03:23] <blind> !fixres > VeganChick
[03:23] <aimee> i went to sunjava and downloaded the missing part but cant get it installed
[03:23] <glick> damn why is gtk-gnutella so crappy to compile it asks me all these questions why cant it have a decent auto config script
[03:24] <shuffdog> i'm gonna go reboot and play around
[03:24] <sudhir> i am new to linux i have installed MEPIS.I want to know is it good for newbies
[03:24] <shuffdog> adios
[03:24] <tovella> wilee85: yeah, that's something that's usually only required for routers.
[03:24] <OzzyBB> see ya shuffdog
[03:24] <Lam_> is win2k the best environment for wine to emulate in? why not win2003?
[03:24] <Dacvak> Hi there. I have an Audigy 2 sound card. I was wondering how I could get that to work in Ubuntu.
[03:24] <tovella> wilee85: i found a work-around, though.
[03:24] <blind> sudhir: if you installed MEPIS, why are you in #ubuntu ?
[03:24] <shuffdog> peace
[03:24] <userund> glick, you could use frostwire, it connects to the gnutella network
[03:24] <voidmage> because everyone knows MEPIS means "my EPISbuntu"
[03:24] <glick> hmm frostwire?
[03:25] <userund> glick, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_P2P_Gnutella_Client_.28FrostWire.29
[03:25] <robbie_crash> Dacvak, what doesn't work about it?
[03:25] <sudhir> Because i want to know from you guys is ubantu better than mepis.I
[03:25] <sudhir> for new users
[03:25] <dv8n11> ubuntu is great for new linux users
[03:25] <wilee85> I'm using edgy and I just installed it on my laptop with an atheros wifi card. when I try to bring up the network I get an ath0 no such device error, but it detected it during the install. does anyone have any ideas?
[03:25] <blind> I like it better?
[03:25] <Dacvak> It's just not functioning. I don't have sound. I never installed drivers or anything.
[03:25] <glick> frostwire is not available in the repos?
[03:25] <OzzyBB> so, who can tell me about this hard disk issue_
[03:26] <r4nge> are the getty ttys just if you are sitting at the actual console?
[03:26] <aimee> oh well i guess i can always go back to windows
[03:26] <tovella> OzzyBB: i agree... 6.10 would be my choice.
[03:26] <dv8n11> <--uses a lot of flavors of linux and ubuntu is the easiest
[03:26] <userund> glick, I think it's in some unofficial repos but it works just fine, I've tried it
[03:26] <VeganChick> blind: thanks, that worked!
[03:26] <blind> VeganChick: no problem at all.
[03:26] <robbie_crash> Dacvak, When I installed it was working straight out of the box so to speak, did it work with the live cd?
[03:26] <OzzyBB> tovella, i dont have bandwidth to donwload another ubuntu iso image
[03:27] <Dacvak> I don't believe so.
[03:27] <tovella> OzzyBB: i see...
[03:27] <aimee> please help my java will not install
[03:27] <userund> glick, I was thinking about amule when I said it's in the repos up there.  but frostwire is as simple as apt-getting to install
[03:27] <robbie_crash> Do you have the volume icon by your system clock?
[03:27] <wilee85> aimee: go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:27] <tovella> OzzyBB: ubuntu will send you a brand new cd.
[03:27] <robbie_crash> !java
[03:27] <xtknight> !java|aimee
[03:27] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:27] <ubotu> aimee: please see above
[03:27] <OzzyBB> tovella, i had a previous ubuntu cd
[03:27] <OzzyBB> it takes about two months to arrive
[03:27] <glick> userund, so frostwire is in the repos?
[03:28] <tovella> OzzyBB: yes, it does take a while.
[03:28] <blind> Why did ubotu say "please see above" ? :O
[03:28] <aimee> ubotu: i am really new at this i dont know what a multiverse is
[03:28] <userund> blind, because ubotu is so smart
[03:28] <xtknight> blind, robbie_crash typed !java, i typed !java and redirected it to a specific user.  he did not want to repeat the message
[03:28] <dv8n11> ubotu is not smart
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is not smart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:28] <robbie_crash> what do I need to change this to so that files get copied to /media/tempo instead of /media/tempo/var: $ sudo cp /var -r  /media/tempo
[03:28] <OzzyBB> what i would like is to be able to install this CD i just burned
[03:28] <dv8n11> wow
[03:28] <blind> Ah, I missed that
[03:29] <userund> glick, not anymore apparently, but you can still get a deb for it and install it smoothly (and later remove it with apt if you don't like it)
[03:29] <pier> hi, I need help with my laptop's xserver it is failing to start and I can't make the reconfiguration work
[03:29] <wilee85> OzzyBB: you can purchase an ubuntu cd through amazon.com
[03:29] <mojo> sethk: are you still about?
[03:29] <xtknight> robbie_crash, sudo cp /var/* -r /media/tempo  ?
[03:29] <userund> yes ubotu is smart.
[03:29] <sethk> mojo, yes, but I haven't been able to get the vpn to connect
[03:29] <wilee85> I'm using edgy and I just installed it on my laptop with an atheros wifi card. when I try to bring up the network I get an ath0 no such device error, but it detected it during the install. does anyone have any ideas?
[03:30] <userund> it's a well written bot.
[03:30] <OzzyBB> I can...... but im at a mining camp, five hours away from the nearest city
[03:30] <OzzyBB> hello secret engineer
[03:30] <OzzyBB> Greetings from a fellow engineer from Peru
[03:30] <glick> userund, why was it taken out?
[03:30] <dv8n11> robbie_crash: why doesnt that copy file to /media/tempo
[03:31] <dv8n11> it shoudl
[03:31] <mojo> oh, np then.  i did more testing.  i downloaded pumpkin tftp pkg on windows box on the 192.168 lan and it works from there... but no joy on the 10.1.1 lan... however i only have the one device on that link.  i'll probably play with it some more or try atftpd if i get no further
[03:31] <dv8n11> maybe try cp -r /var/* /media/tempo/var
[03:31] <tovella> OzzyBB: you can install it from the CD... getting the updates without a fast internet connection....well, that's another story.
[03:31] <Dekkard> wilee85,  have you tried en0?
[03:31] <tbuss> want to check if hardware is compatible with linux. geforce 6280, sb audigy 2 es, hauppauge pvr 150, mn-700 microsoft wireless router
[03:31] <userund> glick, I don't know, what does it matter?  it's not malicious.  there was an outdated version.
[03:31] <OzzyBB> ill give it a try
[03:31] <dv8n11> tbuss yes to all but i  am not sure about your wireless
[03:32] <sethk> mojo, if practical, sniff the packets on the working network and find out where the streams diverge
[03:32] <xtknight> tbuss, geforce: yes, audigy: yes.  not sure about PVR150, not sure about router
[03:32] <dv8n11> oh its a router so dotn worry aobout it
[03:32] <robbie_crash> xtknight, Thanks
[03:32] <dv8n11> yes to the pvr 150
[03:32] <mojo> sethk: good idea
[03:32] <KyleCardoza> Does anyone know if upgrading from 32-bit Edgy to 64-bit Feisty will cause any breakage?
[03:32] <dv8n11> i know guys who use them in mythtv boxes
[03:32] <robbie_crash> dv8n11, it copies everything in /var/ to /media/tempo/var instead of just to /media/tempo
[03:32] <tbuss> dv8n11 are saying that my royter might not work? I've heard of wine could this be a possibility?
[03:32] <pier> can some one give me some hints on what needs to be done to make the xserver work? the problem was that I had dapper installed and upgraded to edgy using apt-get and didn't overwrite the xconf file and now I can't make it work reconfiguring it... any ideas?
[03:32] <wastrel> feisty on #ubuntu+1 and yes
[03:32] <userund> !x | pier
[03:33] <ubotu> pier: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:33] <dv8n11> robbie_crash: try cp -r /var/* /media/tempo
[03:33] <tbuss> xtknight any suggestions on linux friendly routers?
[03:33] <wastrel> pier:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  maybe
[03:33] <dv8n11> all of em are tbuss
[03:33] <xtknight> tbuss, actually any router should work..it's the wireless adapter u should be worried about
[03:33] <robbie_crash> cp /var/* -r /media/tempo worked
[03:33] <dv8n11> yessir
[03:33] <mojo> tbuss: i have an audigy 2 zs working but not every part of it, the nvidia gfx cards generally work but not sure on your model, happauge pvr150 probably will, is popular i think with mythtv and freevo folks - those projects have hardware compatibility pages iirc
[03:34] <wastrel> pier:  did you have ati or nvidia drivers before you upgraded, you may need to install them to get X running
[03:34] <dv8n11> robbie_crash: hang out in #bash to learn some cool stuff
[03:34] <robbie_crash> thanks
[03:34] <eXcAliBuR> any easy way to get and install apache ant ?
[03:34] <tbuss> mojo I was worried how I might get the eax console and such to work
[03:34] <tovella> KyleCardoza: i've heard of some problems with some of the plugins on 64 bit cpu.  i don't have one to test.
[03:34] <mojo> tbuss: the wireless router should unless it is nonstandard somehow
[03:34] <peter77> wastrel I can't find ubuntu-splash.png
[03:35] <xtknight> tbuss, afaik there is no EAX console for the audigy in linux.  you might be able to enable environmental effects, not sure
[03:35] <mojo> tbuss: no joy on eax (enhanced audio effects)
[03:35] <tbuss> mojo i believe it is standard; just old
[03:35] <superkirbyartist> Is there a way that I can change partition sizes without a LiveCD?
[03:35] <xtknight> !gparted | superkirbyartist
[03:35] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:35] <dv8n11> parted gparted or qtparted
[03:35] <VeganChick> What do I do if I get this error: "E: Type 'universe' is not known on line 34 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list" ?
[03:35] <rbil> tbuss: do u configure the router using a web browser?
[03:35] <tovella> KyleCardoza: 32 bit works fine on the 64 bit machine, though, right?
[03:35] <tbuss> mojo is is still possible to benefit from all the cardss capabilities in linux?
[03:36] <tbuss> rbil yes
[03:36] <mojo> tbuss: the chips in the audigy 2 are reasonably well supported, but you won't get the sofware side that creative offers the windows folks, like eax or cmss
[03:36] <blanky> hey guys my videos aren't being embedded into web pages, like trailers for example, instead, it spawns an instance of totem. What do I have to do to make them embedded?
[03:36] <rbil> tbuss: then it shouldn't be a prob with Linux
[03:36] <Dacvak> How do I get Ubuntu to use my Audigy 2 as my main sound output as opposed to my motherboard?
[03:36] <aimee> ubotu:  i went to the site you named and it tells me i need  j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip j2sdk-1_4_0-doc-ja.zip j2sdk-1_4_2-doc-ja.zip
[03:36] <wilee85> Dekkard: no I haven't. I'm still confused as to why it would detect ath0 in the install, let me configure it, and also be active long enough to give me an update notification with 100+ upgrades, but not work
[03:36] <blind> aimee: ubotu is a bot.
[03:36] <Jaguar> Hehe.
[03:36] <superkirbyartist> xtknight, what I am trying to do is to change a partition's size (mountpoint is /), take some of its space for swap.
[03:36] <aimee> ubotu:  went to sun java and cant find it anywhere
[03:36] <tbuss> mojo okay that was what i needed to know, thank you
[03:36] <xtknight> superkirbyartist, you will have to do it outside of linux if your root is that /
[03:37] <VeganChick> aimee: ubotu will not respond
[03:37] <dv8n11> aimee: ubotu isnt a person
[03:37] <aimee> lol well then can someone please help me
[03:37] <Jaguar> aimee: ubotu is a bot, it won't actually answer your questions.
[03:37] <jewbilee> how do i find out what harddrive/partition my install is on?
[03:37] <arides1> i can't get my computer to take a static IP address, even though i defined the IP to use in the configuration files
[03:37] <wilee85> Dekkard: en0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:37] <superkirbyartist> xtknight, then use livecd?
[03:37] <arides1> anyone?
[03:37] <dv8n11> mount
[03:37] <blanky> anyone?!
[03:37] <blanky> anyone?!
[03:37] <xtknight> that's for the next version of uboto ;p
[03:37] <blanky> hey guys my videos aren't being embedded into web pages, like trailers for example, instead, it spawns an instance of totem. What do I have to do to make them embedded?
[03:37] <mojo> tbuss: i have even had the remote working, though it took a lot of serious mojo.. you have to echo an init string out the midi channel that causes the ir controller to start up, then you listen on midi in for the ir events
[03:37] <rbil> superkirbyartist: u can create a swapfile so that you don't need to increase the swap partition. that's another option
[03:37] <userund> !patience | blanky
[03:37] <ubotu> blanky: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:37] <xtknight> superkirbyartist, yes Gparted LiveCD
[03:37] <blanky> I know about patience but today everything's going by too fast, it's not a matter of waiting but making myself heard haha
[03:37] <superkirbyartist> rbil and xtknight, I'll go with the livecd.  Thanks for your time.
[03:37] <mojo> tbuss: but of course i have the external 'livedrive' thingy that comes with the 2 Zs platinum pro
[03:38] <xtknight> rbil, eh how do you make a swapfile?
[03:38] <dv8n11> arides1: what happesn when you config static ip
[03:38] <Daem> !mount
[03:38] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:38] <VeganChick> is there an alternative command to "sudo apt-get update" ?
[03:38] <iambt21> hello
[03:38] <tweety> hey folks ! is it normal that in feisty SSHD segfault at 0 rip 0 on start-up ? i just did an apt-get update apt-get upgrade with be.archive.ubuntu.com for the amd64 dist
[03:38] <Daem> Who manages ubotu?
[03:38] <arides1> dv8n11: nothing -- it takes a dynamic ip. i set it in the config files, restart, ifconfig says it takes the static but my router says otherwise
[03:38] <dv8n11> VeganChick: you could make and alis in ~/.bashrc
[03:38] <xtknight> VeganChick, it sounds like your sources.list is messed up.  can you pastebin it?
[03:38] <iambt21> can i install .exe files on ubuntu?
[03:39] <xtknight> !wine | iambt21
[03:39] <arides1> iambt21: no
[03:39] <blanky> !wine | iambt21
[03:39] <ubotu> iambt21: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:39] <userund> iambt21, no.
[03:39] <rbil> xtknight: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[03:39] <tbuss> mojo right i have the external module for input and output, as far as what you said earlier; newbie here, i think some of that might be over my head
[03:39] <mojo> blanky if i knew i'd tell you but i use the mplayer plugin with ffox
[03:39] <OzzyBB> just in case any of you wonder.... I'm installing now...... wish me success!!!
[03:39] <iambt21> dang
[03:39] <blanky> mojo: then it's the mplayer plugin, haha
[03:39] <dv8n11> arides1:  you are stting up you netmask and gatewaya and dns right
[03:39] <aimee> i have no idea what to do with this stupid thing someone please help
[03:39] <calc> what key on the keyboard is <super> on a US keyboard?
[03:39] <Madpilot> Daem, one of the senior IRC ops does - why?
[03:39] <xtknight> rbil, ah neat never knew
[03:39] <JohnPhys> VeganChick:  Well, you can run sudo aptitude update.......but I don't hink that's what you're asking.  You can run synaptic (with sudo), which gives you a gui for package management
[03:39] <SubMOA> how do you install binaries as an update?
[03:39] <arides1> dv8n11: probably, since i can connect to the internet as normal. i need a static ip to forward ports
[03:39] <rbil> xtknight: it'll work in conjunction with the swap partition
[03:39] <tbuss> rbil i might have mislead you you. i connect to the router using software bundled with device
[03:39] <xtknight> SubMOA, what do you mean?
[03:40] <mojo> blanky: shoot, let me see if i can remember..
[03:40] <SubMOA> it's for googleearth... I downloaded it (the upgrade, in binary) now what?
[03:40] <blanky> mojo: I already have the mplayer plugin installed :'(
[03:40] <xtknight> tweety, #ubuntu+1 for feisty.  segfaults are not normal, no
[03:40] <blanky> mojo: thanks for the trying to help though
[03:40] <mojo> tbuss: well you can get the audio working with little trouble
[03:40] <tweety> xtknight: thanks
[03:40] <rbil> tbuss: I have no experience with MickeyMouse routers, but figured there's always a possibility they'd come up with some backasswards way of doing things
[03:40] <VeganChick> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10706/
[03:40] <mojo> blanky: sry don't think i was much help
[03:40] <aimee> can someone please tell me where my multiverse repository is and how to enable it
[03:41] <xtknight> VeganChick, we need your sources.list file
[03:41] <blanky> mojo: it's alright, at least you tried :(
[03:41] <tbuss> rbil okay, thanks for your help rbil
[03:41] <Madpilot> ubotu, repos | aimee
[03:41] <tovella> SubMOA: how did you install it the last time?
[03:41] <mojo> blanky: you say the media tries to all load external to ffox?
[03:41] <ubotu> aimee: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:41] <VeganChick> JohnPhys: that's the command I was thinking of, thanks. but it makes no difference in this case...
[03:41] <SubMOA> it was from Synaptic
[03:41] <aimee> thank you whoever
[03:41] <rbil> tbuss: of course if u have another Windoze box or dualboot you'll be able to deal with the router should that become necessary
[03:41] <Jenny-> hi, when i try to start ubuntu live-cd from my new pc it give me errors as: [17179572.924000]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:02:00,0 (idem for region 1,2 and 3) and PCI: Error while updating region 0000:02:00.0/0 (+ region *.0/2). What i need to change please ?
[03:41] <tbuss> mojo would it be easy to configure settings ie 5.1 and such
[03:41] <blanky> mojo: yeah like trailers from apple.com/trailers loads up in totem (external app) instead of being embedded in the page
[03:41] <VeganChick> xtknight: ohh, I was wondering why you'd want the terminal output...just a sec.
[03:41] <JohnPhys> VeganChick: can you post your sources.list?
[03:42] <iambt21> anyone willing to help me decide if ubuntu is for me?
[03:42] <xtknight> Jenny-, do you have a core 2 duo cpu?
[03:42] <xtknight> iambt21, sure
[03:42] <linxeh> iambt21: run the live cd ?
[03:42] <tovella> SubMOA: in that case, the easiest way would be to wait for the update to hit the repositories.
[03:42] <AsusM2N-MX> how can i change the colour of my window title bar?
[03:42] <Jenny-> xtknight yes
[03:42] <xtknight> AsusM2N-MX, use a metacity theme
[03:42] <tbuss> i would like to make a clean break all together o all machines (maybe I should find a different router as well)
[03:42] <SubMOA> tovella... ok... that should be all automatic, right?
[03:42] <xtknight> Jenny-, a motherboard with a JMicron controller?
[03:42] <SubMOA> tovella, thanks
[03:42] <Jenny-> xtknight yep
[03:42] <AsusM2N-MX> xtknight: where can i get a dark brown metacity theme?
[03:43] <xtknight> Jenny-, heh sorry to hear.  so do i.  it's a known issue, jmicron is very buggy.  i recommend a separate PCI-IDE controller such as Promise
[03:43] <xtknight> AsusM2N-MX, www.gnome-look.org
[03:43] <glick> damn i cant get frost wire working
[03:43] <mojo> tbuss: yeah you can set the volumes of all the channels... but there is no fancy 'positioning' setup because creative labs doesn't bother with linux drivers themselves.  the chip is supported, emu10k1, though
[03:43] <glick> it keeps complaining about not being able to find java exec
[03:43] <glick> even though its installed
[03:43] <glick> the java gre
[03:43] <Smotang> Hello all, I have a querie. I have a couple of DVD's that come up with I/O errors when i try do copy stuff from them or read from them. I know there is a way to retrieve the data in windows using a program called diskroller but it costs $30 USD to register it and use it. Is there a free way via linux of retrieving the data?
[03:44] <linxeh> glick: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:44] <iambt21> xtnight can we talk in pm?
[03:44] <xtknight> AsusM2N-MX, something like this maybe http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/iCrystal+Metacity?content=50253
[03:44] <sarixe> !dvd
[03:44] <blanky> hey guys my videos aren't being embedded into web pages, like trailers for example, instead, it spawns an instance of totem. What do I have to do to make them embedded?
[03:44] <xtknight> iambt21, let's talk here so everyone can leanr something
[03:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:44] <iambt21> ok
[03:44] <VeganChick> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10707/
[03:44] <OzzyBB> ubotu, sata????
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata???? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <mojo> blanky: there is a ffox plugin that lets you direct diff. media types to diff. players... MediaPlayerConnectivity... you don't happen to have that add-on do you?
[03:44] <OzzyBB> ubotu, sata
[03:45] <tbuss> mojo one more thing, I can still record guitar and mix correct?
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <tovella> SubMOA: yes, when the developers get the latest googlearth working correctly with all the other programs, it will get merged into the repositories.  then when you do an update, it will be one of the programs included in the list.
[03:45] <blanky> mojo: not sure what you mean heh
[03:45] <iambt21> i am going to reformat my cpu.  i use alot of .exe's i was going to get vista, but i dont think my CPU is good enough for it
[03:45] <xtknight> VeganChick, remove line 33 from that file.  it does not belong there.  save and 'sudo apt-get update' again you should be good
[03:45] <Madpilot> OzzyBB, ubotu is a bot - and Ubuntu should install just fine on SATA drives, if that's what you're wondering.
[03:45] <iambt21> so i wanted more than xp pro
[03:45] <Zambezis> I found a really odd thing in my firewall. Can someone check: http://pastebin.ca/398296
[03:45] <arides1> iambt21: xp pro > ubuntu for you
[03:45] <JohnPhys> VeganChick: I think you just need to remove line 33 ("universe")
[03:45] <SubMOA> tovella, rgr, thanks... although come to think of it, i think I got it from automatix, not Synpatic... thank you, though
[03:45] <iambt21> i see
[03:45] <arides1> iambt21: using ubuntu will end in tears for you
[03:45] <iambt21> i have a few computers
[03:45] <OzzyBB> Madpilot, thanks for the advice
[03:45] <Madpilot> iambt21, a lot of .exes of what? They're just programs...
[03:45] <VeganChick> thanks guys!
[03:45] <mojo> blanky: i thought maybe if you went add-on happy you might have installed the ffox add-in that makes it load media in external programs
[03:45] <tovella> SubMOA: that's a totally different scenario.
[03:46] <Smotang> Hello all, I have a querie. I have a couple of DVD's that come up with I/O errors when i try do copy stuff from them or read from them. I know there is a way to retrieve the data in windows using a program called diskroller but it costs $30 USD to register it and use it. Is there a free way via linux of retrieving the data?
[03:46] <arides1> iambt21: pick one that you wont be afraid to FUBAR and install ubuntu on it to see what i mean
[03:46] <xtknight> iambt21, what do you use your PC for, mainly?
[03:46] <iambt21> yes, poker sites.
[03:46] <JohnPhys> xtknight:  does she need "universe" on line 32?
[03:46] <iambt21> i play poker for a living
[03:46] <mojo> tbuss: probably so
[03:46] <SubMOA> tovella, how so?  isn't it similar?
[03:46] <glick> thanks linxeh
[03:46] <OzzyBB> I'm having a bit of trouble right now, trying to install ubuntu in my Toshiba laptop
[03:46] <glick> wow thats super unintuitive
[03:46] <xtknight> JohnPhys, i dont know, it doesnt belong on 33 tho
[03:46] <Jisao> Did Ubuntu.com change in the last few days?  It seems very different.
[03:46] <linxeh> glick: yeah - i think the java packages should run that in their post install automatically
[03:46] <xtknight> JohnPhys, looks like universe is already on line 29
[03:46] <bruenig> Jisao, yes it did
[03:47] <Madpilot> Jisao, yes
[03:47] <iambt21> xtnight i use it for poker, i also use another program poker tracker to record all my poker hand histories. i also use itunes and bittorrent
[03:47] <Dacvak> What's the Ubuntu Beryl channel called?
[03:47] <iambt21> i use dragon a speech program
[03:47] <tovella> SubMOA: not similar at all. automatix uses it's own scripts to install programs, many of which are not part of the ubuntu repositories.
[03:47] <Jisao> Oh.
[03:47] <iambt21> so what do you think
[03:47] <blanky> mojo: no, I DONT want to load media in external applications, I want them to be embedded int he pages
[03:47] <rbil> Dacvak: ubuntu-effects
[03:47] <Daem> Madpilot, I was gonna suggest they put something about "dmraid" in the !mount template for RAID mounting
[03:47] <SubMOA> tovella, so that can be read "bad"
[03:47] <xtknight> iambt21, i'm afraid it's not for you.  sounds like proprietary programs to me, but i can't say for sure
[03:47] <tbuss> mojo okay, i just wanted to see if I would be able to everything on ubuntu as I can do now, some things are more important than others. I'm going to look around for some info, I appreciate your help
[03:48] <iambt21> i might try that arides
[03:48] <delire> xtknight: you might want to ask if Jenny- knows what a PCI-IDE controller is. it's far from common knowledge.
[03:48] <Jisao> I guess I'll have to get used to it.  Tx
[03:48] <linxeh> iambt21: try the live CD. see if you like it  - there may be linux alternatives to your programs, there may not be
[03:48] <JohnPhys> xtknight: aha, she may want it on line 30, in case she ever checks out source code
[03:48] <mojo> blanky: i realize that... it just came to mind because it gives you the effect (symptom) you describe.  but if you don't know what it is you probably didn't install it then so it's not your culprit
[03:48] <xtknight> delire, alright :)  i figured he/she would ask
[03:48] <tovella> Jisao: yeah i was just looking at the site, and noticed a much improved picture.
[03:48] <delire> xtknight: pretty obscure ;)
[03:48] <iambt21> what is hte live CD, i just burned the ubuntu 6.10 64bit amd version onto cd
[03:48] <mojo> tbuss: you can always dual-boot until you are comfortable with linux
[03:49] <Madpilot> Daem, thanks, I'll suggest it to some of the ops that know more about RAID than I do.
[03:49] <xtknight> Jenny-, so do you use an IDE drives?
[03:49] <Madpilot> iambt21, livecd = the desktop CD, which is probably what you burned?
[03:49] <iambt21> yes
[03:49] <linxeh> iambt21: that will work as a live cd - just boot it and start playing around with it - you can use it as a proper linux distribution without hvaing to install anything
[03:49] <tovella> SubMOA: i've used automatix successfully, and UNsucessfully.  ubuntu does NOT recommend using it.
[03:49] <blanky> mojo: oh I get what you mean now, nah dont got that, dont worry I'm getting help in mozilla irc channel
[03:49] <Jenny-> xtknight it's meaning that i must change my motherboard because foxconn dual core isn't good? and it's impossible to run linux on that ?
[03:49] <iambt21> so what is hte main point of ubuntu
[03:49] <Jisao> Well, tovella, the pictures might be crisp, but the site now have the crowded look of the forums :-(
[03:49] <Daem> Madpilot, yeah, it'd be helpful, I spent a few hours trying to figure it out myself and all I got from the channel was the !mount thing over and over again :)
[03:49] <superkirbyartist> Come to think of it, I'll need a swap file for my laptop.
[03:49] <rbil> iambt21: u might want to consider installing the 32-bit version. there are certain plugins and apps that don't work on 64-bit version
[03:49] <vox754> iambt21, use the 32-bit even if you have AMD64. The 64 bit don't support a few things and some programs might not work.
[03:49] <mojo> tbuss: i'd say the hardware works, just no 'polish' on the software side with the creative stuff.. they have a lot of polished drivers and support programs on windows
[03:49] <xtknight> Jenny-, what motherboard do you have?
[03:50] <orangey> Hey all!
[03:50] <iambt21> oh k.. i think i will do that instead.
[03:50] <iambt21> it will save alot of hassle?
[03:50] <iambt21> to get hte 32 bit one instead
[03:50] <mojo> blanky: glad to hear it.. i was not sure what could be wrong
[03:50] <SubMOA> tovella, darn... ok, well I'll mess around with it a bit.  thank you for your time!
[03:50] <xtknight> Jenny-, i am using a Core 2 Duo right now with Ubuntu Linux.
[03:50] <orangey> Quick question.. Where is the CVS / SVN / whatnot for ubuntu?
[03:50] <mojo> blanky: good luck
[03:50] <xtknight> !info subversion | Orange1
[03:50] <ubotu> orange1: subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[03:50] <superkirbyartist> Anyone can help me make a swap file, please^
[03:50] <orangey> So, how can I track all the changes to a package?
[03:50] <Jenny-> xtknight foxconn P9657AA
[03:50] <tovella> Jisao: i have to look at it more closely when i get a chance.
[03:50] <xtknight> orangey, sorry mis-spelled your name.  look above for package names "subversion" and "cvs"
[03:50] <OzzyBB> !info sata
[03:50] <ubotu> Package sata does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[03:50] <linxeh> iambt21: I switched from Windows XP and windows 2000 to ubuntu about 2 months ago (I used to use linux alongside Windows for a long time before that). For the things I want to do, Linux is far better than Windows, and Ubuntu seems like the best distribution for me
[03:50] <orangey> xtknight: right.
[03:50] <orangey> xtknight: I'm wondering about Ubuntu's, not the general concept
[03:51] <tovella> SubMOA: no problem, you're welcome.
[03:51] <xtknight> Jenny-, lots of core 2 duo motherboards have JMicron controllers.  do you use IDE drives though?
[03:51] <iambt21> well. waht do you want to do with linux?
[03:51] <Smotang> Hello all, I have a querie. I have a couple of DVD's that come up with I/O errors when i try do copy stuff from them or read from them. I know there is a way to retrieve the data in windows using a program called diskroller but it costs $30 USD to register it and use it. Is there a free way via linux of retrieving the data?
[03:51] <jrib> orangey: launchpad.net
[03:51] <Led-Hed> I'm trying to enable root access to my MySQL server,  I ran this, but it has no effect.  GRANT ALL ON *.* TO root@'10.0.1.%' IDENTIFIED BY 'MyPassword';  But I still cant connect to the DB from a computer on 10.0.1.x
[03:51] <linxeh> iambt21: however, I don't have a need to use dictation software, and the games I want to play run under Cedega/WINE
[03:51] <iambt21> what are the main things that peopel do with linux, specifically you
[03:51] <v1nce> is Ubuntu compatible with a core2duo dell insprion or xps?
[03:51] <superkirbyartist> !swapfile
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swapfile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <superkirbyartist> !vorbis-tools
[03:51] <ubotu> vorbis-tools: several Ogg Vorbis tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1-5 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 728 kB
[03:51] <sethk> v1nce, generally.  power save is questionable
[03:51] <orangey> jrib: OK.. I'm there, and can't track it. It says general things, but it seems that only  when the maintainer makes a fixed change do I see it.
[03:51] <sethk> v1nce, so is hibernate
[03:51] <glick> yeah frostwire blows
[03:51] <iambt21> ya , but i have multiple comptuers so im figuring i can put it on one of them. i just want ot know why it's pros and cons basically
[03:51] <xtknight> v1nce, probably although core 2 duo desktop motherboards are questionable
[03:51] <aroman> hello
[03:51] <superkirbyartist> Ogg Vorbis is open source?
[03:51] <iambt21> i know the cons are it has compatibility issues it seems, i just dont know the cons
[03:51] <aroman> should SD cards work on feisty?
[03:51] <blind> yes
[03:51] <cables> superkirbyartist, very :)
[03:51] <Tb0n3> I've got the cpu scaling applet, but how do I scale?
[03:51] <mojo> superkirbyartist: see xiph.org i think... yes
[03:51] <xtknight> v1nce, if it uses a newer Marvell ethernet/PATA or JMicron controller it will not work with Edgy
[03:52] <Jenny-> xtknight i use ide for dvd but sata for hdd
[03:52] <Vorian> aroman, yes mine works fine
[03:52] <DeL3e7> crud i killed thunderbird
[03:52] <linxeh> iambt21: I mainly do software development (enterprise java, c++), and write latex documents, as well as web browsing, skype, msn messenger, IRC, email, newsgroups, etc
[03:52] <v1nce> xtknight: questionable???
[03:52] <superkirbyartist> xtknight can you help me make swapfile please?
[03:52] <linxeh> iambt21: it doesnt have compatibility problems at all
[03:52] <orangey> jrib: For example, in a bug I contributed to in launchpad, Ben collins said that he committed a fix. But I don't see where.
[03:52] <lxuser_> how can I configure X from the command line
[03:52] <vox754> iambt21, 32 bit is ideal for desktop users; 64 bit are for servers which use a lot of memory and might not even use screen displays. Linux is great to learn about programming stuff.
[03:52] <aroman> I have an SD controller with the TI chip, the tifm_core kernel module... dmesg says: "tifm_core: MMC/SD card detected in socket 0:3" when I plug the card in, but it doesn't create a block device for it. any ideas?
[03:52] <linxeh> iambt21: you can't use a lot of windows software on it, but you can't use Ford parts on a GM car either....
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> orangey: probably to the new version (development)
[03:52] <lxuser_> changed monitor and now dont have image
[03:52] <kyle___> Hi, why doesn't capslock work at the command line?
[03:52] <xtknight> Jenny-, ok, same here.  i recommend getting a card like this for Linux. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816102027
[03:53] <rbil> iambt21: if you're into games, then most require Windoze. there are alot of Windoze apps and hardware that run successfully in a vmplayer vm that has xp or w2k loaded
[03:53] <orangey> tonyyarusso: I don't understand.
[03:53] <tovella> aroman: not only on feisty, but on feisty through an LTSP server... it's beautiful, man.
[03:53] <DeL3e7> i did a sudo mozilla-thunderbird cause i thought it would let me the open file extensions options <open filetype with> but lo an behold it like earased my thunderbird email setup
[03:53] <iambt21> what do you mean by a vm player?
[03:53] <JohnPhys> lxuser_: you can try sudo dpkg -reconfiguer xserver-xorg
[03:53] <xtknight> superkirbyartist, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[03:53] <Dacvak> How do I check to see if I'm currently running the latest Beryl? Is there an "About" somewhere that I'm not seeing?
[03:53] <Jenny-> k thx xtknight
[03:53] <aroman> I have the tifm_7xx1, sdhci, mmc_core and tifm_core modules loaded
[03:53] <Tb0n3> when I try to left click on cpu scaling it freezes the applet
[03:53] <lxuser_> cant remember the commad to changer xorg configuration
[03:53] <v1nce> i will be purchasing a laptop next month - any recommendations that will work nicely with UBUNTU?
[03:53] <xtknight> Jenny-, i recommend disabling JMicron controller in BIOS if possible.  that's what i did.  other than that, my core 2 duo works fine
[03:53] <mojo> superkirbyartist: vorbis, flac, theora, ogg container, speex, and more at http://www.xiph.org/  go read up on their mission, they are cool.
[03:53] <pianoboy3333> What's the best type of wav file, for instance, what's the difference between 16 bit pcm, and 32 bit float?
[03:53] <rbil> iambt21: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
[03:54] <DeL3e7> whats wierd is the .thunderbird files are still there but thunderbird opens like it does from a fresh ijnstall
[03:54] <xtknight> Jenny-, do you have any network problems with that motherboard?
[03:54] <DeL3e7> all my saved stuff is gone
[03:54] <JohnPhys> lxuser_: you can try sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:54] <guidex> hey all
[03:54] <xtknight> pianoboy3333, 32bit float can store more accurate waveforms afaik
[03:54] <iambt21> how do i make it say the persons name when i reply to them?
[03:54] <jrib> orangey: it was probably comitted to feisty's repos
[03:54] <lxuser_> thanks JohnPhys
[03:54] <pianoboy3333> xtknight: ok...
[03:54] <JohnPhys> lxuser_: ...there might need to be two dashes in front of the reconfigure
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> orangey: By general policy, bugfix changes don't go into already released versions.  Big stuff can, and security fixes do, but most new stuff will simply be put in the current development version for the next release (currently Feisty).
[03:54] <xtknight> pianoboy3333, but you'll probably want to ask an audio forum about that, this isn't realy the place
[03:54] <jrib> !tab | iambt21
[03:54] <ubotu> iambt21: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[03:54] <orangey> jrib: It doesn't seem to be.
[03:54] <linxeh> iambt21: type their name in
[03:54] <jbelli1> I didn't have a desktop install CD handy so I installed the server version.  Is there an easy way to switch it to the desktop personality now that it's installed?
[03:54] <MTecknology> Well, I'm going to try to switch my server from Windows to Ubuntu 6.06
[03:54] <iambt21> linxeh: whats up
[03:54] <mojo> iambt21: depends on your irc client.  in xchat i type the first part of your name and press tab
[03:55] <jrib> orangey: maybe #ubuntu-motu will know more, I'm interested too :)
[03:55] <orangey> jrib: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/75398
[03:55] <aroman> anyone?
[03:55] <tovella> pianoboy3333: perhaps another channel (more music or sound oriented) could better answer this question.
[03:55] <delire> Jenny-: the problem you have is pretty rare and fairly unfixable unfortunately. the hardware manufacturers keep a closed shop so developing for it is guesswork..
[03:55] <Jenny-> xtknight okay but what is JMicron controller job ?
[03:55] <v1nce> laptop compatibility anyone?
[03:55] <linxeh> iambt21: well, I'm battling with the JBoss embedded ejb3 container at the moment - you ? :)
[03:55] <xtknight> Jenny-, it is the IDE controller that supports your DVD drive right now
[03:55] <pianoboy3333> tovella: xtknight: do any of you know a better channel?
[03:55] <orangey> jrib: In that example, the newest version is from 14 March, but Ben only did it on 16 I think.
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> v1nce: Thinkpads are nice
[03:55] <xtknight> Jenny-, you would instead plug your DVD drive into the Promise PCI controller i linkde.
[03:55] <delire> tonyyarusso: agreed.
[03:55] <xtknight> Jenny-, linked*
[03:56] <xtknight> pianoboy3333, #music ? #sound ?  #audio?   i dont know, try em
[03:56] <sethk> v1nce, I've had good results with thinkpad, and with fujitsu.  dell, results are mixed
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> v1nce: also, system76.com looks pretty good and I've heard good reviews, but don't own one personally (yet).
[03:56] <iambt21> can i put ubuntu and xp pro on my cpu?  i only have 1 hard drive however
[03:56] <tovella> aroman: what version of ubuntu? all the updates installed?
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> v1nce: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport > Machines > Laptops
[03:56] <guidex> whats the best linux movie/audio player? (so far mplayer and xmms works best, but in windows i prefer something like winamp, is there something like winamp?)
[03:56] <Jenny-> ok i see xtknight so if i set JMicron controler to OFF ... my live cd will not start .... it's ?
[03:56] <rbil> iambt21: yes, but install xp first
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot | iambt21
[03:56] <ubotu> iambt21: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:56] <linxeh> iambt21: your CPU is a processor, you can't install software on it. you can install software on the hard drive though, and you can install ubuntu and XP side by side
[03:56] <Cannoli> hiya
[03:56] <JohnPhys> v1nce: I put edgy on a buddy's core2duo gateway with intel chipsets (graphics and wireless), all works great
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> !players | guidex
[03:56] <ubotu> guidex: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:57] <fabiano> I want help to install my hp printer
[03:57] <tovella> Cannoli: wzup, dude.
[03:57] <linxeh> iambt21: generally one installs XP first in one partition (eg up to half the drive space) and installs Linux afterwards
[03:57] <Cannoli> ubuntu is a form of linux right>
[03:57] <Cannoli> ?
[03:57] <linxeh> Cannoli: yes - it is a linux distribution
[03:57] <iambt21> ok im going to try that
[03:57] <Cannoli> ah ic
[03:57] <v1nce> cannoli, yes based on debian
[03:57] <tovella> Cannoli: it's a "distribution" of linux.
[03:57] <aroman> tovella: running fiesty.. updated today
[03:57] <iambt21> i am not a programmer of any sort, is this a mistake for installing it and using it?
[03:57] <glick> how easy is it to go from dapper to fiesty
[03:57] <dv8n11_> konverstaion sucks in ubuntu
[03:57] <xtknight> Jenny-, you will just have to wait until you get an external PCI IDE controller
[03:57] <jewbilee> My version of beryl is for some reason not letting me see my desktop, its just a black screen.  I can see all of my running programs and gnomes two bars but i cant see icons or anything.  #ubuntu-effects is dead so I cam here
[03:57] <glick> is it going to screw my system up?
[03:58] <Cannoli> so can i have ubuntu on one hd and windows on the other and use both of them?
[03:58] <xtknight> Jenny-, or you can boot off a usb drive or something like I did.
[03:58] <Jenny-> xtknight thx a lot for your precious help :)
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> glick: Go to edgy first - one step at a time
[03:58] <linxeh> iambt21: nope - there is lots of end user software. I do lots of audio work on my linux machine as well (there are programs comparable to cubase for example)
[03:58] <xtknight> Jenny-, in the mean time you can try a modified version of Debian Sarge...
[03:58] <aroman> tovella:  this really should be a kernel thing though and feisty is running a 2.6.20 stable which should have all the sd card stuff in (merged in 2.6.17-rc1)
[03:58] <fabiano> how do i intall my printer?
[03:58] <linxeh> Cannoli: yup
[03:58] <Cannoli> ~ linxeh ~ thanx
[03:58] <OzzyBB> which is which? I have Ubuntu 6.06.......
[03:58] <glick> i dont want to upgrade
[03:58] <TheVault> Can someone help me finish setting my wireless. I got most of the dirty work with Ndiswrapper and I need some help to make sure that I have done everything correctly
[03:58] <glick> i just want the latest version of gtk-gnutella
[03:58] <guidex> thank you for the list of audio/video players, but what is most like winamp?
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> glick: And the answer is "Quite probably".  Never trust development versions on production machines, with sensitive/valuable data, or as your only available installation.
[03:59] <linxeh> glick: what was the problem ?
[03:59] <dv8n11_> guidex: xmms
[03:59] <JohnPhys> iambt21: not at all, I'm not a programmer, and I love using linux.  Most of the advanced configuring of linux is optional, and when you *really* need to change something, all of the forums (and google) are super helpful, and the configuration files are all plain text (no crazy programming stuff).
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> OzzyBB: that's Dapper
[03:59] <tovella> aroman: development seems to advancing a a blistering pace.  you may have to wait for the next update... or the release.
[03:59] <OzzyBB> thanks!
[03:59] <aroman> and I recall that it worked on a previous install
[03:59] <superkirbyartist> Mojo, I'll take time to read, but i'm on livecd.
[03:59] <linxeh> oh
[03:59] <glick> linxeh, gtk-gnutella is aincient
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> !printer | fabiano
[03:59] <ubotu> fabiano: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:59] <glick> and there are no latest backports
[03:59] <JohnPhys> xtknight: Is that Core 2 Duo problem there with all of those PCI/IDE controllers?
[03:59] <linxeh> have you checked to see if there is a newer version in backports? does anyone use nutella any more  ? :o
[03:59] <aroman> tovella: yes, but I'm curious why a block device isn't created... maybe udev's rules are a bit messed up
[04:00] <xtknight> Jenny-, sarge-custom-1023.iso at   http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/   works for JMicron controllers.  it is still unreliable though and i still recommend getting the PCI IDE controller.  you will never be able to use ubuntu dapper or edgy on jmicrons.  Feisty does work with them, but again the support is just as partial as with the debian images
[04:00] <jrib> orangey: from the wiki: Fix Committed: Means for package maintainers, that the changes are pending and to be uploaded soon
[04:00] <xtknight> JohnPhys, it's actually not a core 2 duo problem at all, but most core 2 duo platforms just happen to use JMicron for IDE
[04:00] <OzzyBB> ok, gotta go now
[04:00] <dv8n11_> and sata
[04:00] <aroman> is there an ubuntu dev channel where I may ask about feisty?
[04:00] <TheVault> Can someone help finish setting up my wireless with Ndiswrapper. I got most of the work finished, I just need a few things to see if I have done things correctly
[04:00] <OzzyBB> See you later!
[04:00] <Fizzbane> What version of ubuntu would i download if i wanted to install it onto a AMD Athlon X2 3800+ cpu?
[04:00] <xtknight> !feisty | aroman
[04:00] <ubotu> aroman: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:01] <dv8n11_> !xtradius
[04:01] <ubotu> xtradius: Free radius server implementation. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-beta2-5 (edgy), package size 209 kB, installed size 764 kB
[04:01] <Zambezis> One computer did a portscan. It's not me! How can I check for strange things on the computer?
[04:01] <xtknight> Fizzbane, depends if you want the 32-bit or the 64-bit version
[04:01] <iambt21> JohnPhys, so can i use itunes on ubuntu and my ipod?  also is there anyway to convert a file .exe so i can use it on ubuntu?
[04:01] <Jenny-> thx xtknight :)
[04:01] <dv8n11_> Zambezis: what kind of strange things
[04:01] <guidex> Fizzbane: i'm running ubuntu edgy on a amd 2100 512 ram dvd burner/nvidia geforce 4
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> !itunes | iambt21
[04:01] <ubotu> iambt21: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[04:01] <eXcAliBuR> how to find the dir where JDK is ?
[04:01] <guidex> and it runs fantastic
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> !wine | iambt21
[04:01] <ubotu> iambt21: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:01] <aroman> xtknight: yes, I know it's alpha and that's why I'm using it, but there has to be some way of talking to the devs and inquiring a bit about things :)
[04:01] <Fizzbane> which is better and more compadible with most programs?
[04:01] <JohnPhys> xtknight: ah, alrighty.  I wish more retailers/manufacturers would give detailed chipset info
[04:01] <tovella> aroman: yeah, i've been testing feisty, and sound worked (from my LTSP server to my thin-client) until a few days ago, when i did an update.  still, i'm completely confident that it will be fixed by the time the official release comes through.
[04:01] <guidex> i'm also dual booting with vista and it runs like windows 3.1 on a 286
[04:01] <xtknight> aroman, it said #ubuntu+1
[04:01] <dv8n11_> Zambezis: try nmap
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> Fizzbane: 32-bit is generally easier.
[04:02] <TheVault> ???
[04:02] <xtknight> and faster.
[04:02] <linxeh> iambt21: there are alternatives to iTunes too - you dont have to use it to put stuff on your ipod (though you must use it if you want the itunes store)
[04:02] <v1nce> what's the difference between 32 and 64 bit?
[04:02] <sethk> guidex, gee, I can't wait to get a copy
[04:02] <TheVault> Can someone help me please?
[04:02] <Fizzbane> then which disc do i download?
[04:02] <aroman> xtknight: ok, sorry
[04:02] <eck> aroman: if you want to get in touch with the developers, launchpad is the best way
[04:02] <sethk> v1nce, 32 bits
[04:02] <Fizzbane> since the whole website changed i dont know which one to download
[04:02] <JohnPhys> iambt21: I haven't used itunes or an ipod in windows, so I really can't say.
[04:02] <xtknight> v1nce, 64bit uses bigger registers in the CPU for processing more data at once.  it also supports 48-bits of RAM addressing
[04:02] <sethk> v1nce, and lots of software that doesn't quite run in 64 bit mode
[04:02] <v1nce> nice sethk
[04:02] <guidex> sethk if you get a copy and you install it , all you will be doing is waiting
[04:02] <Cannoli> so here is my situation: i have 2 hds (250gb strictly files, 60gb for windows) now can i install ubuntu on my 250 gb hd without formatting? and when my pc boots up can i switch between windows and ubuntu?
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> Fizzbane: 32 bit PC "Desktop"
[04:03] <sethk> v1nce, always happy to serve  :)
[04:03] <Fizzbane> standard desktop?
[04:03] <dv8n11_> cannoli yes
[04:03] <v1nce> will 32 bit programs run on 64 bit
[04:03] <iambt21> sounds good, i think im going to have to try it. i dont know why. the one thing im worried about is not being able to use .exe files... will wine take care of this?
[04:03] <xtknight> v1nce, yes with some workarounds
[04:03] <sethk> guidex, thankfully I've managed to avoid vista thus far, although eventually I'll have to deal with it.
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> Fizzbane: Sounds right.  (Haven't looked at the new site much yet)
[04:03] <Fizzbane> mmkay
[04:03] <Cannoli> ~ dv8n11_ ~ thanx
[04:03] <tovella> fabiano: using the 32 bit version (386) is safer if you want to use things like Adobe's flash plugin.
[04:03] <dv8n11_> you have to resize the space needed to put ubunt on it
[04:03] <Fizzbane> thanks mate
[04:03] <sethk> v1nce, there is sometimes an emulation mode but it will be slow
[04:03] <JohnPhys> v1nce: no, but I think there's some sort of wrapper that can be used
[04:03] <Kevlar_Soul> What file format does ubuntu use?>
[04:03] <TheVault> is it good if your wireless is showing up as eth1 instead of wlan0?
[04:03] <dv8n11_> then preferrable add it to the beginning of the disk
[04:03] <Kevlar_Soul> FAT32?
[04:03] <xtknight> running 32-bit apps on 64-bit cpu is not emulation
[04:03] <v1nce> is this duo 2 core 64 bit
[04:04] <xtknight> v1nce, yes
[04:04] <dv8n11_> and add grub.conf/menu.lst entries fro windows
[04:04] <Cannoli> ~ dv8n11_ ~ any tuts out there on how to do tht?
[04:04] <linxeh> iambt21: to a degree, yes, wine will let you run .exes. I use it to run some old apps
[04:04] <Kevlar_Soul> Does linux use FAT32?
[04:04] <v1nce> seems all new laptops have 64 bit
[04:04] <JohnPhys> Kevlar_Soul: it uses ext3 by default, but can read and write to fat32 (vfat) partitions
[04:04] <xtknight> Kevlar_Soul, it can, but generally ext3
[04:04] <iambt21> is windows better installed as ntfs or fat32?
[04:04] <xtknight> iambt21, ntfs
[04:04] <sethk> v1nce, hardly.
[04:04] <iambt21> linxeh, what do you mean to a degreee
[04:04] <TheVault> ntfs
[04:04] <guidex> it takes 1-3 minutes on my (amd2100/512 ram/geforce4) pc to change from one avi to another avi with winamp under vista. fortunetly, after days of tinkering, I got visual studio 6 and sp5 to install without problems, but that was after signifigant modification of sp5
[04:04] <iambt21> whats hte difference?
[04:04] <linxeh> iambt21: its an emulation - it isnt perfect. some apps will not work properly
[04:04] <rbil> iambt21: install xp on ntfs
[04:04] <sethk> v1nce, IMHO 64 bits isn't worthwhile at this point, due to lagging software availability
[04:04] <Kevlar_Soul> is ext3 function better or worse than FAT32?
[04:04] <TheVault> iambt21: Different file systems
[04:04] <dv8n11_> gonna start flames but go to the gentoo forums and search for author Darth_Daver subject two hard drives
[04:04] <guidex> it has some pretty icons and stuff, but other than that bah
[04:04] <kitche> Kevlar_Soul: it can but you need to use ext3 or reiserfs on linux system for the main system
[04:04] <iambt21> is wine , much slower?
[04:04] <v1nce> does linux not support 64 bit processors very well currentyly?
[04:04] <linxeh> iambt21: you can also get Cedega for windows games (improved version of Wine, but you have to pay for it) or Crossover Office for normal desktop software and some games
[04:04] <Qlippoth> I clean installed ubuntu to my system, is there a way for me to partition about 10 gigs so i can install windows xp on that?
[04:05] <xtknight> all AMD64 (Athlon 64, Core 2 Duo) CPUs can run 32-bit and 64-bit code natively with NO emulation.  Core 2 Duo CPUs feature optimizations to make 32-bit faster than 64-bit in a lot of genreal purpose cases.  the 64-bit mode lacks the optimization
[04:05] <rbil> iambt21: faster usually
[04:05] <TheVault> iambt21: Not really, wine runs pretty good
[04:05] <linxeh> iambt21: no, its about the same speed. World of Warcraft plays about the same speed as on windows with my amd64 machine
[04:05] <eck> kitche: no, you can use fat for your root partition
[04:05] <sethk> v1nce, some are supported, yes, but not all of the applications have been built and tested in 64 bit.
[04:05] <kitche> Qlippoth: install windows first then ubuntu
[04:05] <sethk> v1nce, you can run the 32 bit o/s on 64 bit hardware, without problems
[04:05] <eck> i have done it before :-)
[04:05] <Qlippoth> ouch
[04:05] <linxeh> xtknight: does that apply for xeons too ?
[04:05] <guidex> Qlippoth
[04:05] <VeganChick> if I'm looking for ways to make my desktop look prettier, xface is probably my best bet, right?
[04:05] <sethk> v1nce, the problems occur trying to run 32 bit apps with the 64 bit version of the o/s.
[04:05] <guidex> if you resize your drive first, you may be able to do it
[04:05] <JohnPhys> Kevlar_Soul: I think it mostly depends on what the partition is used for, but I think for the main OS partition, ext3 is far better than fat32, since it protects against data loss from sudden power outages and such a bit more robustly.
[04:05] <TheVault> Can someone help me real quick on my wireless, I am almost done and I need some help on a few things... Please and thank you
[04:05] <linxeh> v1nce: I run the 32bit distro on my amd64 - I wouldnt dream of using 64bit at home yet
[04:05] <xtknight> linxeh, yup as far as i know
[04:05] <JohnPhys> Kevlar_Soul: I'm by no means an expert, though.
[04:06] <sethk> v1nce, you understand what I mean?  you can run 32 bit linux on your 64 bit laptop (or desktop or whatever) with no problem
[04:06] <dv8n11_> Zambezis: google grub dual boot two hard drives and read up on partitioning
[04:06] <linxeh> xtknight: glad I just bought quad dual-core opteron servers then :)
[04:06] <Kevlar_Soul> tHanks
[04:06] <xtknight> linxeh, Itaniums are different though they use IA64, different than AMD64
[04:06] <guidex> however vista may decide to render your boot partition defunct
[04:06] <eXcAliBuR> how to find the dir where JDK is ?
[04:06] <v1nce> sethk, oh so i could run the 32 bit ubuntu on a duo 2 core
[04:06] <sethk> v1nce, I'm saying I don't recommend installing the 64 bit distro.
[04:06] <linxeh> xtknight: yeah, I don't use itaniums :)
[04:06] <Qlippoth> so i need to reinstall everything again? :p
[04:06] <sethk> v1nce, yes, absolutely
[04:06] <sethk> v1nce, and you will not see problems.
[04:06] <v1nce> sweet thanks sethk!!!
[04:06] <dv8n11_> guidex: windows overwrites the mbr by default
[04:06] <JohnPhys> v1nce: definitely, I set edgy 32 bit up for a friend on his 64 bit dual core machine
[04:06] <Zambezis> dv8n11_, Damn! That's a huge application.
[04:06] <kitche> Qlippoth: well you will have to reinstall the bootloader the way your doing it
[04:06] <dv8n11_> use grub-install --no-floppy /dev/hda
[04:06] <ramza4> I am having an issue with my graphics card (via agp integrated with asus board), I run dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it doesnt recognize the card; what should I do
[04:07] <dv8n11_> Zambezis: what is
[04:07] <tovella> i've finished my second beer (22 ounces) and am fearful of giving bad advice.  i'm going to shut up and just listen (read), now.
[04:07] <v1nce> johnpys: i may be getting a 64 bit dual 2 core machine
[04:07] <xtknight> v1nce,  i've used 32-bit and 64-bit on a Core 2 Duo.  i've found 32bit faster for most things.  and indeed, it is for real world apps: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-64bit_4.html   << this article is about Core 2 Duo's 32-bit only optimization called macrofusion
[04:07] <Qlippoth> hmm, thanks.
[04:07] <v1nce> any difference
[04:07] <Zambezis> dv8n11_, nmap have alot of flags. I'm looking for a fullscan.
[04:07] <linxeh> tovella: that's quite embarassing :)
[04:07] <eck> haha, beer and irc, a classic combination
[04:07] <kitche> ecks: yes but why would you since it has so many restrictions
[04:07] <Dacvak> Hi there. How can I check to see what version of Beryl is currently running on my machine?
[04:07] <Zambezis> dv8n11_, I can't turn it off now. :-/
[04:07] <VeganChick> tovella: you can still type just fine, you shouldn't be that bad off. :D
[04:07] <eck> kitche: i have used it to install linux to a flash drive before
[04:08] <v1nce> thanks xtknight!
[04:08] <linxeh> mind you, the US doesn't exactly have proper beer does it :)
[04:08] <r4nge> how do i reload event.d once i make a change?  telinit q didnt seem to work
[04:08] <kitche> eck: that is different
[04:08] <dv8n11_> ctrl+xc
[04:08] <dv8n11_> ctrl+c
[04:08] <eck> it is the same
[04:08] <dv8n11_> interupt
[04:08] <Madpilot> Kevlar_Soul, the desktop CD is a LiveCD, so it runs without touching your harddrive. Great for hardware testing.
[04:08] <JohnPhys> v1nce: aside from the pci/ide controller issue that xtknight can tell you about, I'd highly recommend the core 2 duo, it flies.
[04:08] <tovella> linxeh: heineken!!!
[04:08] <iambt21> im having a beer also
[04:08] <iambt21> lol
[04:08] <eck> if you wanted full read/write support from windows of your linux partition you could use fat fine
[04:08] <dv8n11_> use nmap -F0 localhost
[04:08] <iambt21> just miller lite
[04:08] <jewbilee> Hey, I have ubuntu installed on my external harddrive.  This harddrive had a partition on it for backup of my windows files.  My windows install is on my main HDD.  I want to be able to boot up my laptop and have it only load winodws and only show grub if i boot from my external.  But group loads without having to boot from my external
[04:08] <eXcAliBuR> how to turn off ubuntu?
[04:08] <linxeh> tovella: well, that's not beer for a start
[04:08] <dv8n11_> corona and lime here
[04:08] <eck> well
[04:08] <eXcAliBuR> from term.
[04:08] <dv8n11_> hopdevils a beer
[04:08] <kitche> eck
[04:09] <tovella> linxeh: agreed... later, all.
[04:09] <eck> well permissions would be really messed up
[04:09] <kitche> opps hit enter on accident
[04:09] <Pollywog> Miller Lite is not beer?
[04:09] <linxeh> :)
[04:09] <VeganChick> haha, I hate beer
[04:09] <Kevlar_Soul> Madpilot Can I also install it with a clean install if I so choose from the very same disk, booting the machine to the cd?
[04:09] <dv8n11_> its water
[04:09] <eck> i guess you'd have to run things as root :-\
[04:09] <Pollywog> I hate the smell of beer
[04:09] <linxeh> Pollywog: no, it is lager ?
[04:09] <iambt21> it gets the job done
[04:09] <v1nce> whats the pci/ide controller issue?
[04:09] <dv8n11_> miller is a pilsner
[04:09] <sethk> eck, sure, don't forget to do rm -fr /  :)
[04:09] <Pollywog> I thought it was beer
[04:09] <Madpilot> Kevlar_Soul, yes
[04:09] <Pollywog> but it is still a beer
[04:09] <sethk> v1nce, what do you mean?
[04:09] <Cannoli> so is ubuntu the best linux out there?
[04:09] <xtknight> v1nce, many core 2 duo platforms use JMicron or Marvell PATA controllers.  these aren't supported by Ubuntu Edgy (though they are in the future Feisty)
[04:09] <VeganChick> installing xface won't do anything scary, will it?
[04:09] <Madpilot> Kevlar_Soul, there's an Install icon right on the desktop of the LiveCD
[04:09] <Cannoli> and wht can i customize in it? (visually)
[04:09] <dv8n11_> cannoli that depend on what you want out of linux
[04:10] <iambt21> miller won the 2006 light lager award
[04:10] <Pollywog> Cannoli I think it depends
[04:10] <BigLebowski> Hi :-)
[04:10] <iambt21> so its gotta be ok
[04:10] <Cannoli> well wht can i get?
[04:10] <v1nce> xtknight: when is Feisty set for release?
[04:10] <Cannoli> like wht do u use it for?
[04:10] <xtknight> !feisty | v1nce
[04:10] <dv8n11_> for routers openwrt for junkies gentoo fro computer users ubuntu
[04:10] <ubotu> v1nce: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:10] <Pollywog> for giving to your granny if she knows nothing about Linux, I would say Linspire
[04:10] <jrandolph> it seems like no matter what method of installing ati drivers i use, i always get to the point of fglrxinfo returning info about mesa project, and not ATI stuff... any suggestions?
[04:10] <sethk> Cannoli, you have to look at the distros yourself and decide which one meets your requirements.  "best" is meaningless in the context of your question
[04:10] <xtknight> v1nce, next month..
[04:10] <jewbilee> I've installed ubuntu on an external HDD thats connected to my laptop. Problem is, if i boot up my laptop without my external connected, I get a grub error 21.
[04:10] <Kevlar_Soul> Madpilot and it will overwrite the harddrive?
[04:10] <kevin0> hello
[04:10] <iambt21> anyone know how to slow down a heat sink fan?  mine is way too fast and its sooo loud.
[04:10] <Pollywog> if for a geek then maybe Ubuntu is better
[04:10] <jrandolph> hi kevin0
[04:10] <intelikey> hello i'm running dapper drake, and have a question about the startup process, i have edited /etc/inittab and /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh  but something is still activating vc[2-6]  at boot time, i have grep'd all of /etc  and don't see what would do that,  anyone have recomendations ?
[04:10] <Madpilot> Kevlar_Soul, there is an install option for 'wipe the whole HD', but there are also options to setup dualboots or work w/ existing partitions
[04:10] <xtknight> v1nce, i've gotten ubuntu edgy running on a jmicron controller but it was a huge pain (had to use alternate boot and install methods).  not worth it.  IMO just get another PCI IDE controller like a Promise PCI card for your IDE drives.  JMicron is unstable.
[04:11] <v1nce> xtknight: nice that's when i will be purchasing my laptop
[04:11] <Cannoli> k tahnx for ur help everyonem
[04:11] <VeganChick> cannoli: what would you like to customize?
[04:11] <sethk> intelikey, check /etc/inittab
[04:11] <kevin0> can someone point me to a good tutorial for upgrading the kernal for ubuntu
[04:11] <linxeh> iambt21: a variable resistor should work fine
[04:11] <Cannoli> i dont really know y i want it
[04:11] <xtknight> v1nce, ah if it's a laptop you can't use pci cards obviously but i can check if whatevre model you get uses JMicron
[04:11] <jrandolph> !ati
[04:11] <Pollywog> that's just it, some distros like Linspire do not allow too much customization
[04:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:11] <dv8n11_> !kernel kevin0
[04:11] <Kevlar_Soul> Madpilot, Im getting the feeling this was really thought through very well
[04:11] <intelikey> sethk i'm running dapper drake, and have a question about the startup process, i have edited /etc/inittab and /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh  but something is still activating vc[2-6]  at boot time, i have grep'd all of /etc  and don't see what would do that,  anyone have recomendations ?
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel kevin0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <linxeh> iambt21: another option is to power it off 5 or 7v rather than 12
[04:11] <VeganChick> cannoli: are you used to mac or windows?
[04:11] <jewbilee> I've installed ubuntu on an external HDD thats connected to my laptop. Problem is, if i boot up my laptop without my external connected, I get a grub error 21.
[04:11] <Cannoli> i just need something tht crashes less then windows
[04:11] <dv8n11_> ubotu sucks
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <Madpilot> Kevlar_Soul, the whole project tries, yes. ;)
[04:11] <dv8n11_> lol
[04:11] <sethk> intelikey, you removed the references in inittab?
[04:11] <kevin0> :)
[04:11] <iambt21> linxeh, which is the quickest and easiest solutoin?
[04:11] <intelikey> sethk yes
[04:11] <VeganChick> cannoli: well, you should have a blast then ;)
[04:11] <TheVault> Can someone please help me with my wireless, I am almost done and I just need some help
[04:12] <v1nce> xtknight: probably a dell inspiron e1705
[04:12] <JohnPhys> v1nce: xtknight:  Not sure how reliable it is, but the laptop I installed edgy on successfully was a Gateway (came with xp though, right before vista was released), so gateways might not use that controller
[04:12] <Pollywog> unotu should have a late night comedy show
[04:12] <Pollywog> ubotu
[04:12] <jrandolph> hi ubotu
[04:12] <Kevlar_Soul> Madpilot could I do a dual boot, then switch to just linux?
[04:12] <xtknight> JohnPhys, or maybe they all had sata drives hooked up to the intel ich8
[04:12] <dv8n11_> ubotu distcc compile farm
[04:12] <sethk> intelikey, looking at it, yes, removing from inittab just stops the respawn.
[04:12] <Pollywog> he is funnier than Letterman
[04:12] <ubotu> distcc: Simple distributed compiler client and server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.18.3-3 (edgy), package size 138 kB, installed size 360 kB
[04:12] <intelikey> sethk there is no getty running on them.  but they have been activated
[04:12] <Madpilot> Kevlar_Soul, yes
[04:12] <sethk> intelikey, ah, ok
[04:12] <jin> !mp3
[04:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:12] <linxeh> iambt21: well it really depends on what you have available to you :)
[04:12] <jrandolph> !mesa
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <sethk> intelikey, there is a parameter that sets the number of virtual consoles.
[04:12] <TheVault> Can someone please help me?
[04:12] <dv8n11_> !aimsniff
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aimsniff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <linxeh> iambt21: I'd probably just go and buy a variable speed fan
[04:13] <sethk> intelikey, reducing it might help.  let me see if I can remember where it is.
[04:13] <jrandolph> !mesa3d
[04:13] <JohnPhys> xtknight: ...good point, I think it is a sata in that machine
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <xtknight> v1nce,  hrmm actually it'd be kind of hard to find out how the drives are wired internally.  just wait for Feisty ;)
[04:13] <Pollywog> why does ubotu say to use free formats?  is that not an individual preference?
[04:13] <linxeh> iambt21: my modding days are well and truely over - its more important to have stable machines
[04:13] <dv8n11_> man the ops here have to do something about this bot
[04:13] <dv8n11_> he sucks
[04:13] <Kevlar_Soul> Madpilot our little discussion should be on the front page. Marketing is ubuntu's weak point. Get the features known.
[04:13] <v1nce> xtknight, ok
[04:13] <linxeh> Pollywog: yes, you dont have to use ubuntu
[04:13] <v1nce> anything else i should look out for
[04:13] <iambt21>  i do  not have a variable resistor easily accessible
[04:13] <xtknight> dv8n11_, tell us how you really feel
[04:13] <dv8n11_> i feel left out
[04:13] <JohnPhys> v1nce: if you're browsing the laptops in a brick and mortar store, you can always go to the device manager in vista and look at the controller
[04:13] <Madpilot> dv8n11_, you don't seem to know how to talk to the bot. How is that the bot's fault?
[04:13] <intelikey> sethk /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh  by any chance ?
[04:14] <cyberfr0g> Hello
[04:14] <v1nce> i would rather not run windows vista
[04:14] <Kevlar_Soul> Is Kubuntu KDE4?
[04:14] <Pollywog> oh I see we have Debian ppl here ;)
[04:14] <TheVault> Can someone help me? Been asking a few times now and nobody seems to be acknowledging that I need a little help
[04:14] <iambt21> linxeh: should i restar and go to bios and lower to 7v? is that how i do it?
[04:14] <sethk> intelikey, that's not the one I'm thinking of.
[04:14] <linxeh> iambt21: you cant do it in the bios like that
[04:14] <dv8n11_> but anyway lets start alking abotu using a radius server to hack the la fonera
[04:14] <rbil> iambt21: ear plugs until u do
[04:14] <intelikey> sethk ok.
[04:14] <iambt21> lol
[04:14] <jrandolph> TheVault, what's your question?
[04:14] <xtknight> !ask | TheVault
[04:14] <ubotu> TheVault: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:14] <iambt21> so what do i do?
[04:14] <Pollywog> just ask the question
[04:14] <cyberfr0g> not sure
[04:14] <linxeh> iambt21: you will likely have to connect the fan over the 12v and 5v leads, rather than 12v and ground
[04:14] <linxeh> well, 12v and 0v :)
[04:14] <kevin0> how do i add joystick support without compiling a new kernel?
[04:14] <iambt21> 0v wont work too we1ll
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> Kevlar_Soul: I believe work is being done to try to get as much of KDE4 in Feisty (April release) as possible.  If KDE4 is final in time, it might just barely squeak it's final version into October's release.
[04:15] <VeganChick> what's the RC2 version of XFCE 4.4?
[04:15] <Madpilot> TheVault, you need to be less vague - "I need a little help" is pretty open-ended...
[04:15] <xtknight> kevin0, you may be able to compile and insert a module, although i am not sure how exactly
[04:15] <linxeh> iambt21: your fan is currently connected to the 12v and 0v of the psu...
[04:15] <cobelloy> hi i am having trouble with xorg, it wont start - error mssg about font files?
[04:15] <JohnPhys> Does anyone know of a likely reason that liveCD burns would be failing the md5 checks, even if the original iso checks out?
[04:15] <cobelloy> there is no /usr/share/X11/fonts dir
[04:15] <v1nce> thanks all
[04:15] <linxeh> iambt21: remember learning about potential difference in physics classes ? :P
[04:16] <Kevlar_Soul> tonyyarusso will my kubuntu automatically update to the new versions?
[04:16] <sethk> kevin0, the module may already exist; if you, modprobe will find it for you assuming you know the name
[04:16] <kevin0> what i really want is xpad support
[04:16] <TheVault> Alright, I'm setting up my wireless using Ndiswrapper. I finally figured out why before everything was not working out the way I had hoped for. Anyway, I'm to the part where I'm suppose to edit the thing, something about iwconfig and its telling me that my wireless needs to be on wlan0 instead of eth1 and I'm not sure what to do
[04:16] <dv8n11_> JohnPhys: does the iso work after being burnt] 
[04:16] <iambt21> linxeh: i dont remember
[04:16] <sethk> TheVault, the wireless _should_ be wlan0 instead of eth1
[04:16] <iambt21> i'm still in school
[04:16] <Pollywog> because the iso is not the same as the image that gets put in the CD right?
[04:16] <iambt21> im in college
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> Kevlar_Soul: Come April, you will get something asking if you would like to, and if you say yes, it will walk you through that
[04:16] <intelikey> JohnPhys burning at too high speed.  burn at 8x or less
[04:16] <sethk> TheVault, there is a rename interface command, but why would you want to change it?
[04:16] <TheVault> sethk: How do I change that then?
[04:16] <JohnPhys> dv8n11_: nope, read/write errors on various things, though it mounts fine
[04:16] <linxeh> iambt21: well, its probably best you just go and buy something quieter then
[04:16] <sethk> TheVault, why do you want to change it?
[04:16] <iambt21> lol k
[04:16] <TheVault> All I care about is getting my wireless working
[04:16] <iambt21> i understand what a resistor is
[04:17] <dv8n11_> re download and mayeb try a differnet mirrotr
[04:17] <JohnPhys> intelikey: I should have mentioned both disks were done with 4x burn
[04:17] <sethk> TheVault, the name doesn't make it work or stop it from working
[04:17] <dv8n11_> s/mirrotr/mirror
[04:17] <intelikey> k
[04:17] <sethk> TheVault, just use wlan0 in your configuration commands
[04:17] <TheVault> sethk: Oh ok
[04:17] <TheVault> alright, so now I just edit the /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:17] <kevin0> the module is called xpad, but i dont know if its enabled in the generic kernel
[04:17] <BigLebowski> Does it really matter what the device name is aslong as it works correctly and is detected as a wireless net card and not just an ethernet device.
[04:17] <ramza3> I have a cheap via card, it looks like ubuntu doesnt detect it; yet I have vesa? graphics, is that bad or should I seek to detect my card
[04:17] <dv8n11_> yes BigLebowski
[04:18] <linxeh> ramza3: what card is it ?
[04:18] <BigLebowski> dv8n11_, why?
[04:18] <JohnPhys> I guess it's just a sign of eventual hardware failure then.
[04:18] <dv8n11_> how would the kernel know which device it is
[04:18] <linxeh> ramza3: ideally you want to avoid the vesa driver - it isnt very quick on most hardware
[04:18] <TheVault> sethk: So I just edit my /etc/network/interfaces file? I also notice that my wifi light is on
[04:18] <ramza3> linxeh: bough an asus board, integrated agp
[04:18] <dv8n11_> imagine having ten eth interfaces
[04:18] <linxeh> ramza3: what motherboard?
[04:18] <Pollywog> Vault you do know you only need ndiswrapper when there is no linux driver, right?
[04:18] <xtknight> kevin0, it looks like XPAD might be, but I have Feisty.  CONFIG_USB_XPAD=m  why not modprobe?  'sudo modprobe xpad'  to see if it loads
[04:18] <cobelloy> is there some package i might have missed that will install the /usr/share/X11/fonts dir?
[04:18] <ramza3> linuxeh: some asua a8v-vm - via vga card?
[04:18] <kevin0> i type modprobe and nothing happens
[04:18] <xtknight> kevin0, that means it loaded
[04:18] <kevin0> sry modprobe xpad
[04:18] <sethk> TheVault, you can try that.  I usually set it up at the command line, make sure I know what needs to be run, and then change the config files.  but if you don't know all the commands, try changing the config file.  back it up first, then you can always revert
[04:19] <TheVault> pollywog: Yeah I know, because the drivers that come with linux does not work but allows it to show that you have wireless
[04:19] <yell0w> lol, has anyone seen gparted saying you've got swap on a partition while the rest of the system says ext3 ?
[04:19] <BigLebowski> dv8n11_, The kernel clearly knows what it is if it's working correctly.
[04:19] <rbil> dv8n11_: I've seen wireless cards run as all sorts of different devices, from eth0 to eth1 to wlan0, to ath0
[04:19] <Pollywog> k
[04:19] <xtknight> kevin0, if it doesn't report any errors at least.  i have no idea what to do from there, but what you just did was load the xpad kernel module if it didn't report errors.
[04:19] <kevin0> ok, how do i use it now :)
[04:19] <xtknight> kevin0, i suggest looking for HOWTOs for that one
[04:19] <kevin0> k
[04:19] <kevin0> thanks
[04:19] <dv8n11_> well the classification of the device that liek asking why does each pci slot havea number
[04:19] <TheVault> sethk: I also use WPA2 as my security for my Wifi
[04:19] <BigLebowski> Yeah, i have my wireless as eth0 in ubuntu and wlan0 in FC.
[04:19] <intelikey> sethk i have searched for this thing for several days now off and on.  you are the first one that has mentioned something i hadn't already visited.   hope you remember where it is...  :)
[04:19] <Qlippoth> so i format and install windows, then install ubuntu and choose the last option to partition most of my HD for ubuntu?
[04:19] <Pollywog> so when does this March Madness stuff end?
[04:19] <xtknight> april?
[04:19] <xtknight> ;p
[04:20] <sethk> intelikey, I'm looking.  I'll be on and off (I'm working also)...
[04:20] <Pollywog> oh :(
[04:20] <dv8n11_> rbil that due to chipset device type and how many there are
[04:20] <jrandolph> when i run aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv i get two warnings... can i safely ignore these, or does it depend on the warnings?
[04:20] <linxeh> ramza3: hmm, it looks like there are open source drivers from VIA for that card, but whether there are binaries already for Ubuntu I'm not sure
[04:20] <dv8n11_> when you setup linux routers you will see why the name matters
[04:20] <intelikey> sethk would you care to pm me if/when you find it>?
[04:20] <linxeh> ramza3: that said, it looks like they were incorporated into X directly
[04:20] <rbil> dv8n11_: possibly. I never knew why. But to insist it must have a particular device name is clearly wrong
[04:20] <TheVault> sethk: So what do you suggest that I do right now?
[04:20] <TheVault> sethk: Kinda confused, this is why i'm asking
[04:20] <ramza3> linuxeh: I am still on dapper 6.06, hmm should I try an upgrade
[04:20] <dv8n11_> you need something to specify the device to tell it whether to use lan wan or wlan and whether its a vlan or not
[04:21] <lisapc> whats a great torrent client for Edgy?  Is ktorrent good?
[04:21] <rbil> dv8n11_: you are missing my point. never mind
[04:21] <dv8n11_> well udev is what decides its name
[04:21] <linxeh> ramza3: www.viaarena.com apparently has downloads and instrucftions
[04:21] <dv8n11_> and thats how udev works
[04:21] <blind> lisapc: there's loads of torrent clients out there. you have to decide that for yourself.
[04:21] <lisapc> blind, where is a listing of all the torrent client available for Edgy?
[04:21] <JohnPhys> lisapc: people have varying success with azureus (doesn't update ratios correctly always), but it's pretty good.  Other than that I use bittornado
[04:21] <linxeh> ramza3: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2
[04:21] <TheVault> I still have my wireless work even though its eth1 right?
[04:22] <dv8n11_> ktorrent is good lisapc
[04:22] <xtknight> lisapc, 'apt-cache search torrent'
[04:22] <dv8n11_> i like more than azureus for gui
[04:22] <lisapc> JohnPhys, bittornado for uuntu?
[04:22] <linxeh> ramza3: ooh http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45&CatID=3220
[04:22] <linxeh> :)
[04:22] <xerophyte> does anybody like the domain name www.linuxbee.org to put all the info i collected for the past few month about linux ?/
[04:22] <ramza3> linuxeh: thanks, we will get this
[04:22] <Zambezis> I though I was safe with Linux, but it seems like I got hacked. :-/
[04:22] <JohnPhys> lisapc: yup, it's in the repositories
[04:22] <kevin0> hmm i think xpad support is for the 360 controller only
[04:22] <BigLebowski> I like Ktorrent personally, Azureus is a bit heavy.
[04:23] <rbil> TheVault: from my experience if your wireless card is recognized as eth1 it should work
[04:23] <Pollywog> Zambezis: you need to be careful or that can happen
[04:23] <dv8n11_> ktorrent does all azureus doesn and you dont knwo its running
[04:23] <BigLebowski> Zambezis, you'll never be totally 'secure', especially out of the box.
[04:23] <xtknight> Zambezis, how did you deduce that?
[04:23] <TheVault> rbil: Alright, now I also use WPA2 as my security, so will I have to download something for that?
[04:23] <dv8n11_> security is a measure of usability
[04:23] <jewbilee> How do I put grub on my second HDD, remove it from my first, and reinstall my Windows MBR?
[04:23] <dv8n11_> yes whay do you think you go thacked
[04:23] <dv8n11_> s/go/got
[04:23] <Pollywog> I thought Linux did not support WPA2 yet
[04:23] <sethk> jewbilee, you don't have to remove it, installing the windows MBR will cover it up
[04:24] <Pollywog> am I wrong?
[04:24] <dv8n11_> it does
[04:24] <Pollywog> oic
[04:24] <xtknight> through wpa_supplicant doesnt it?
[04:24] <BigLebowski> I believe it does through wpa_suplicant
[04:24] <jewbilee> SethK: ok, so how do i install grub on my second HDD
[04:24] <rbil> !wireless|TheVault
[04:24] <ubotu> TheVault: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:24] <sethk> jewbilee, you can't copy the binary image to the second hard drive.  well, you _can_, but it won't work
[04:24] <sethk> jewbilee, you can use grub_install, or use the setup command within the grub utility
[04:24] <pepesmith> hello all: do you know of some basic guides of installing ubuntu dapper drake for amd athlon 64? note that my ubuntu cd is 32 bit only..please help
[04:24] <jewbilee> SethK: my ubuntu install is on my second HDD, which is external
[04:24] <TheVault> rbil: Thanks
[04:24] <dv8n11_> wpa_supplicant can be a pain if you have ipw2200 wlan
[04:24] <jewbilee> SethK: my main HDD is a windows install on my laptop
[04:25] <sethk> jewbilee, the boot loader has to be on the first hard drive.  unless the BIOS has a select boot device command.
[04:25] <Zambezis> Pollywog, BigLebowski xtknight http://pastebin.ca/398320
[04:25] <jewbilee> SethK: and if my external isnt conncted when i boot, i get grub error 21, so i need to make it so grub only comes up if i boot from my external
[04:25] <TheVault> dv8n11: I have a broadcom chipset card
[04:25] <even> list
[04:25] <sethk> jewbilee, a command for choosing the boot device at boot time, not changing the default device.
[04:25] <jewbilee> sethK: yes, it does
[04:25] <lisapc> JohnPhys, does bittornado support encryption?
[04:25] <dv8n11_> grub can reside on any disk the mbr has to be on the first drive
[04:25] <JohnPhys> jewbilee: you'll have to point the grub installer to the external drive, and make sure your computer can boot from the external
[04:25] <intelikey> jewbilee sudo grub-install /dev/hdb   or what ever device
[04:25] <jewbilee> sethk: yes, it does
[04:25] <wilo> xtknight: hye, i got this problem with me terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10708/
[04:25] <even> hello there
[04:25] <dv8n11_> yoru good
[04:25] <sethk> jewbilee, it has "press f12 for boot menu" or something similar?
[04:25] <wilo> how do i fix it?
[04:25] <JohnPhys> lisapc: not sure on that one
[04:25] <dv8n11_> TheVault: you should be fine
[04:25] <jewbilee> sethk: yes, thats how my old ubuntu install use to be
[04:25] <even> hello
[04:25] <jewbilee> sethk: unless i did that, it would go to windows
[04:26] <sethk> jewbilee, ok, in that case, your plan should work
[04:26] <jewbilee> sethK: thats how i want it
[04:26] <ajayc> hey anyone of you know any software with which I can create a magazine like Tux?
[04:26] <jewbilee> sethk: so how do i do that?
[04:26] <sethk> jewbilee, do the windows mbr; typical is to use    fdisk /mbr
[04:26] <TheVault> dv8n11: Yeah, I got most of the work done, just needing to verify a few things before I go messing around with what I need to edit
[04:26] <jewbilee> sethk: i want to get grub working on my external first, so i dont loose my linux install
[04:26] <even> I search a good channel for meet
[04:26] <sethk> jewbilee, then use grub_install to install grub on the external.  you'll want to boot the live cd with the external connected
[04:26] <rbil> ajayc: use a desktop publishing app and write to a PDF :-)
[04:26] <BigLebowski> Zambezis, that just looks like a port scan.
[04:26] <dv8n11_> try using -Dwext instead of you normal driver in the wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:26] <jewbilee> sethk: i cant do it the other way around?
[04:26] <sethk> jewbilee, yes, doing the external first is definitely a good precaution
[04:26] <sethk> jewbilee, yes, you can do either order
[04:27] <intelikey> jewbilee   sudo grub-install /dev/sdb      or what ever device
[04:27] <ajayc> rbil: I need some sort of a template man
[04:27] <BigLebowski> and a few [probably]  automated exploit attempts.
[04:27] <jewbilee> intelikey: how do i find out the device?
[04:27] <Pollywog> I am not convinced that someone successfully cracked you Zambezis
[04:27] <dv8n11_> use grub --no-floppy and use the command line to install tothe mbr
[04:27] <dv8n11_> it works beter
[04:27] <rbil> !scribus|ajayc
[04:27] <Pollywog> I just saw attempts
[04:27] <ubotu> ajayc: scribus: Open Source Desktop Publishing. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1.dfsg-1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 5127 kB, installed size 15416 kB
[04:27] <ajayc> rbil: making a new page with DTP is going to be some pain in the ass
[04:27] <BigLebowski> Pollywog, i second that :-)
[04:27] <intelikey> jewbilee  sudo fdisk -l
[04:27] <sethk> jewbilee, if it's booting from the external now, you can just boot, run grub_install.  then use the f12 thing to make sure it works, then do windows mbr
[04:27] <jewbilee> intelikey: i have three partitions on my external /dev/sda 1-3
[04:27] <Zambezis> BigLebowski, But why did my computer portscan? I didn't do that.
[04:27] <sethk> jewbilee, which is what you are suggesting, I think?  it should work
[04:28] <dv8n11_> Zambezis: for one your root is seperate from your user and unles you opened a bunch of ports onyour router and box you ddnt get hacked
[04:28] <dv8n11_> someone portscanned yo umaybe
[04:28] <jewbilee> ssethk: correct, i want to make sure i can boot from the external first
[04:28] <intelikey> jewbilee you are not wanting a partition just the device
[04:28] <Zambezis> Pollywog, But I going to change firewall very soon. I'm not safe with IPCop.
[04:28] <dv8n11_> Zambezis: nmap is a port scanner
[04:28] <wilo> can someone help me fix this error: ryone can pay for their hotel rooms except me lol
[04:28] <wilo> [14:26:25]  And now you want somebody..To cure the lonely nights..You wish you had somebody..That could come make it right.. says:
[04:28] <wilo> cause i got $30
[04:28] <wilo> [14:26:30]  And now you want somebody..To cure the lonely nights..You wish you had somebody..That could come make it right.. says:
[04:28] <wilo> 10 is mels, 10 is louis
[04:28] <sethk> jewbilee, that's a good plan, and it should work
[04:28] <jewbilee> intelikey: so i do sudo grub-install /dev/sda?
[04:28] <intelikey> jewbilee yes
[04:28] <Pollywog> I thought IPCop was good
[04:28] <dv8n11_> brb smoke
[04:28] <BigLebowski> "MS-SQL version overflow attempt" It's automated, was an attempt.
[04:28] <wilo> sorry i meant : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10708/
[04:28] <sethk> jewbilee, assuming the external is /dev/sda, yes.  :)
[04:28] <r4nge> anyone have any luck removing a tty entry from event.d and getting it to disappear with reboot?  the faq for upstart says the definition wont be removed until the job is stopped, i terminated the process but it just restarts another tty
[04:29] <r4nge> disappear *without
[04:29] <Zambezis> dv8n11_, One port is opened. hosts.deny is SSH: all
[04:29] <briancm> #sabayon
[04:29] <briancm> oops...
[04:29] <Pollywog> Zambezis for SSH get fail2ban
[04:29] <jewbilee> intelikey: it said that installation was finished and at the bottom it says (hd0) /dev/hdc (hd1) /dev/sda
[04:29] <jewbilee> is that what i want
[04:29] <Zambezis> Pollywog, Is it in the repos?
[04:29] <intelikey> yes
[04:29] <JohnPhys> wilo: Most likely you have another program accessing the package database (such as synaptic or aptitidue or update), close that out and it should work
[04:30] <Pollywog> Zambezis: I believe it is
[04:30] <jewbilee> intelikey: so now if i reboot my computer and hit f12 and boot from external it should work?
[04:30] <wilo> JohnPhys: i closed all my apps out
[04:30] <intelikey> jewbilee yes it should
[04:30] <jewbilee> intelikey: because i was told to do that earlier and it doesnt
[04:30] <jewbilee> intelikey: it says something along the lines of Grub Error 22
[04:30] <sethk> jewbilee, check the drive map in the /boot/grub directory.
[04:30] <wilo> i was doing a JRE install, and got to the message at the end, and it needed me to hit retun or select "ok" and i coudln't so i just quit terminal
[04:31] <jewbilee> sethk: sorry, i need more detailed instructions, im new to all of this
[04:31] <sethk> jewbilee, it's the file that translates between grub notation (like hd1,0, for example) and /dev notation
[04:31] <JohnPhys> wilo:  how were you doing the jre install?
[04:31] <Zambezis> Pollywog, It is. I'm installing it now. Anything more good to install?
[04:31] <Pollywog> Zambezis: logcheck
[04:31] <sethk> jewbilee, there is a file in /boot/grub called device.map
[04:31] <zyth> Anyone know why totem-mozilla won't play apple trailers, but if I dl a quicktime file totem itself WILL, and mplayer and the mozilla-mplayer WILL?
[04:32] <sethk> jewbilee, I would expect two lines such as:
[04:32] <jewbilee> sethk: alright, im there
[04:32] <Pollywog> some ppl also like portsentry
[04:32] <sethk> jewbilee, (hd0) /dev/hda
[04:32] <sethk> jewbilee, then (hd1) /dev/sda
[04:32] <sethk> jewbilee, see if that is what you have
[04:32] <intelikey> jewbilee  cat /boot/grub/device*    and gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst     make sure that the root= is the correct device and that the devices match
[04:32] <jewbilee> sethk: it says (hd0) /dev/hdc (hd1) /dev/sda
[04:32] <Pollywog> I don't use it anymore because I have a router firewall
[04:32] <fabiano> how do i install firefox ?
[04:32] <Lam_> is there a way to pause cpu-scaling and just enable the max?
[04:32] <dv8n11_> logsentry is agood choice if you use syslog-ng
[04:32] <andre_pl> I lost my log-out and switch user options, all I have is "quit" which drop right to gdm. what gives?
[04:32] <jewbilee> intelikey: none of that made sense to me sorry
[04:32] <LordLimecat> fabiano
[04:32] <sethk> jewbilee, good.  now make sure menu.lst is set correctly  (uses hd1 when referencing the external drive)
[04:32] <intelikey> jewbilee ok.
[04:33] <LordLimecat> fabiano: are you new to ubuntu
[04:33] <caveman> hello
[04:33] <fabiano> yes
[04:33] <sethk> jewbilee, if grub_install didn't work, you can try running the grub utility (which is just called grub)
[04:33] <even> yes mee too
[04:33] <sethk> jewbilee, then you enter two commands
[04:33] <mark_2007> anyone using ubuntu on a laptop and had a change in video lately?
[04:33] <LordLimecat> fabiano: alright :)  welcome.  Go to the ubuntu symbol and click
[04:33] <sethk> jewbilee, the first is:         root (hd1,0)
[04:33] <JohnPhys> wilo: How were you installing the JRE?
[04:33] <sethk> jewbilee, that's assuming the boot partition is /dev/sda1
[04:33] <LordLimecat> then go down to Add/Remove
[04:33] <dv8n11_> grub command line works better
[04:33] <sethk> jewbilee, then the second command is:
[04:33] <BigLebowski> Ubuntu should have something like the FreeBSD handbook.
[04:33] <sethk> setup (hd1)
[04:33] <Zambezis> Pollywog, Thanks. It's almost 05.00 here, but I have to work all night. Thansk for the tip.
[04:33] <Pollywog> for the question about JRE, I use java-package to install the JRE, it makes a deb of it
[04:33] <BigLebowski> (correct me if it already does)
[04:34] <LordLimecat> although i BELIEVE firefox is installed by default?
[04:34] <jewbilee> im not sure what the boot partition is
[04:34] <fabiano> yes
[04:34] <jewbilee> how do i check
[04:34] <sethk> jewbilee, I've found that when grub_install fails, using grub and entering the commands interactively often works.
[04:34] <sethk> jewbilee, it's the partition where the kernel lives.
[04:34] <wilo> JohnPhys: i was following this tut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:34] <jewbilee> sethk: how do i check that again?
[04:34] <kingrayray> hey, on ubuntu how do you fix Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" ? using fglrx
[04:34] <dv8n11_> sethk do you use grubs tab-completion
[04:34] <sethk> jewbilee, you can list the partitions this way:       fdisk -l /dev/sda
[04:34] <jewbilee> alright
[04:34] <fabiano> but my ubuntu is 5.10
[04:34] <sethk> dv8n11_, not in a case like this where grub_install is failing.  if tab completion will work, then grub_install would have worked
[04:34] <jewbilee> the linux is /dev/sda2
[04:34] <JohnPhys> can you paste the results of ps aux | grep apt ?
[04:34] <dv8n11_> fdisk -lu will list all hdd and parts
[04:35] <JohnPhys> wilo: can you paste the results of ps aux | grep apt to the paste site?
[04:35] <sethk> jewbilee, if you don't understand the output, you can capture the fdisk command output and put it on the paste web site, then we can all look at it.
[04:35] <intelikey> dv8n11_ do you think grub could be installed here on a partitionless disk ?
[04:35] <LordLimecat> fabiano: i dont know if its installed by default on 5.10, and you may want to consider upgrading....
[04:35] <jewbilee> sethk: i understand the output
[04:35] <LordLimecat> but you can certainly install firefox by going to add-remove
[04:35] <LordLimecat> and searching for firefox
[04:35] <jewbilee> sethk: /dev/sda2 is my linux partition
[04:35] <wilo> JohnPhys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10710/
[04:35] <dv8n11_> sethk: grubs tab completion works like root (hd<tab>   possible options are hd0 hd1 hd2 and same for parts
[04:35] <BigLebowski> I have a quick question about 6.10, did 'upstart' change much?
[04:35] <fabiano> yes I want to update but i don know
[04:36] <LordLimecat> did you just install ubuntu?
[04:36] <sethk> dv8n11_, I know how it works.  as I said, if tab completion were working, grub_install would have worked.
[04:36] <dv8n11_> not always
[04:36] <sethk> jewbilee, then you would use the command:        root (hd1,1)
[04:36] <sethk> jewbilee, then the command    setup (hd1)
[04:36] <sethk> dv8n11_, I'll go with a method that always works over one that may or may not work.
[04:36] <dv8n11_> intelikey: do youmean 1 disk 1 part
[04:36] <sethk> dv8n11_, especially as you are using tab completion to avoid typing exactly two keys
[04:37] <intelikey> dv8n11_ no  1 disk 0 partitions
[04:37] <jewbilee> sethk: it said succeeded and then done
[04:37] <LordLimecat> fabiano: ...?? are you still there?
[04:37] <dv8n11_> when you have five disks and three os's it helps
[04:37] <sethk> jewbilee, ok, try the f12 thing again.
[04:37] <fabiano> yes
[04:37] <dv8n11_> scsi and ide
[04:37] <jewbilee> sethk: ok, ill be back
[04:37] <LordLimecat> alright :)  did you just install ubuntu, and do you have a cd burner?
[04:37] <hxx> I downloaded the deb package for kiba-dock and installed. However, when i run kiba-dock from the terminal i get the following error:
[04:37] <hxx> philip@philip-laptop:~$ kiba-dock
[04:37] <hxx> GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:135: failed to allocate 4\
[04:37] <sethk> jewbilee, I'm walking the dog, so I may not be back yet, but people here will help
[04:37] <whta> what would you guys recommend as the best torrent program? i used utorrent pretty faithfully but i don't have that option here
[04:38] <Toma-> whta: deluge
[04:38] <BigLebowski> whta: KTorrent
[04:38] <dv8n11_> ktorrent
[04:38] <wilo> JohnPhys: this is wat u wanted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10711/
[04:38] <LordLimecat> whta:  i miss utorrent too, but bittornado isnt bad
[04:38] <whta> that'll run on gnome?
[04:38] <hxx> help
[04:38] <intelikey> dv8n11_ so can it be done ?
[04:38] <hxx> I downloaded the deb package for kiba-dock and installed. However, when i run kiba-dock from the terminal i get the following error:
[04:38] <hxx> philip@philip-laptop:~$ kiba-dock
[04:38] <hxx> GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:135: failed to allocate 4294967295 bytes
[04:38] <hxx> aborting...
[04:38] <hxx> Aborted (core dumped)
[04:38] <BigLebowski> If you're using GNOME, you may need to install kdelibs.
[04:38] <dv8n11_> yea
[04:38] <mark_2007> any ideas on working with video issues?
[04:38] <intelikey> dv8n11_ can you walk me through it ?
[04:38] <LordLimecat> !paste |hxx
[04:38] <ubotu> hxx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <LordLimecat> :)
[04:39] <fabiano> hi
[04:39] <intelikey> dv8n11_ i have a root console open, what do i do ?
[04:39] <fabiano> hi
[04:39] <dv8n11_> exit
[04:39] <dv8n11_> err
[04:39] <LordLimecat> fabiano: do you have a cd burner, and did you just install ubuntu?
[04:39] <BigLebowski> +What the.....? why is it trying to allocate so much memory :-/
[04:39] <fabiano> I have
[04:40] <LordLimecat> you have a cd burner?
[04:40] <JohnPhys> wilo: hmm, well I'd try killing off the apt-get process, with "sudo kill 5266"
[04:40] <fabiano> i have
[04:40] <LordLimecat> you can download the latest ubuntu @ www.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <LordLimecat> and then burn it to disk, and install that way
[04:40] <wilo> JohnPhys: ok
[04:40] <jewbilee> sethk: still not working Grub Error 22 Partition not found
[04:40] <LordLimecat> that will bring you up to the latest version, 6.10
[04:40] <BigLebowski> hxx, there must be a problem with that application, i have no idea why its trying to allocate so much memory
[04:40] <jewbilee> sethk: i think those are the remnants from an old install, but i comepletely removed the partitions using device manager in windows
[04:41] <dv8n11_> intelikey: yea sure join #dv8n11
[04:41] <BigLebowski> hxx, the reason it's failing is because it can't physically allocate all of that memory
[04:41] <fabiano> but in this case I will update all my sistem
[04:41] <fabiano> system
[04:41] <wilo> JohnPhys: i did it and got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10715/
[04:41] <intelikey> jewbilee can bios boot that disk ?   if bios can't boot it grub can't
[04:41] <LordLimecat> that is correct, fabiano.
[04:41] <jewbilee> intelikey: what do you mean?
[04:41] <LordLimecat> do you not want to update?
[04:42] <jewbilee> intelikey: my bios gives me the optoin to boot from my external when i want to chose where to boot from
[04:42] <BigLebowski> hxx, ie: it seems to be trying to allocate 4gb of memory
[04:42] <jewbilee> intelikey: at the one time boot screen
[04:42] <fabiano> I want to install my webcantoo
[04:42] <LordLimecat> i cant help you with that :(
[04:42] <JohnPhys> wilo: Aside from running through and killing off all of the apt and dpkg related processes, I'm not sure how to free up the database other than a reboot at the moment (and *everything* should be possible without a reboot).  It's not the most elegant method, but it *should* work.  can you run ps aux | grep apt again?
[04:43] <BigLebowski> *mental note* avoid kiba-dock
[04:43] <intelikey> net split ?
[04:43] <fabiano> how can i install?
[04:43] <wilo> ok ill run ps aux | grep apt
[04:43] <dv8n11> intelikey: are you gonna join
[04:43] <dv8n11> #dv8n11
[04:43] <fabiano> is genius webcan
[04:43] <DMU> hey
[04:43] <intelikey> dv8n11 i did.  it's desybced
[04:44] <wilo> JohnPhys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10716/
[04:44] <LordLimecat> fabiano: i dont know how to install webcams :(
[04:44] <dv8n11> huh
[04:44] <intelikey> desync'd
[04:44] <dv8n11> im there
[04:44] <intelikey> but the channel is not on freenode
[04:44] <fabiano> thanks
[04:45] <jewbilee> intelikey: any suggestions?
[04:45] <dv8n11> yes it is
[04:45] <JohnPhys> wilo: do you have the the output from when you orignally exited the terminal?
[04:45] <zen> Are there ISOs for Fawn already released, and if so, where the heck can I find them?
[04:45] <wilo> nope
[04:45] <wilo> i closed it down
[04:45] <intelikey> jewbilee no not for grub.    lilo might work.
[04:45] <mark_2007> any video driver help?
[04:45] <wilo> it completed jre and then come up with a window tellin me terms and conditions
[04:45] <jewbilee> intelikey: how can i remove grub from my external
[04:45] <JohnPhys> wilo: try killing off 5576
[04:45] <wilo> but couldn';t let me confirm or deny those conditions so i quit it
[04:45] <jewbilee> intelikey: maybe a fresh install and setup will fix it
[04:45] <VeganChick> I'm trying to XFCE 4.4 and the following commands don't work:
[04:46] <VeganChick> chmod +x xfce4-4.4RC2-installer.run  sudo ./xfce4-4.4RC2-installer.run
[04:46] <JohnPhys> wilo: Though you're going to have to reinstall the items
[04:46] <wilo> "kill -9 5576"
[04:46] <JohnPhys> wilo: sudo kill 5576
[04:46] <kingrayray> anybody got a moment to help me get fglrx working w/ my 9600? i followed the binary guide on the wiki but it's still not working :/
[04:46] <Varsendaggr> hey what is a good program that will help me make playlist and then be able to to sync it to my mp3 player.
[04:47] <wilo> JohnPhys: done
[04:47] <prevone> zen, http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04075
[04:47] <fabiano> how can i do to have a cube with my screen?
[04:47] <Varsendaggr> anyone?
[04:47] <andre_pl> I lost my log-out and switch user options, all I have is "quit" which drop right to gdm. what gives?
[04:48] <prevone> fabiano, you need beryl or compiz
[04:48] <wheels3572> jrib you here
[04:48] <JohnPhys> wilo: can you apt-get install stuff now?  What did you mean by it not letting you agree to the terms or conditions?
[04:48] <prevone> Varsendaggr, amarok works well for me
[04:48] <jrib> wheels3572: yes
[04:48] <kuzmaster> hey all!
[04:48] <Varsendaggr> prevone, cool
[04:48] <mark_2007> vars: try rythmbox
[04:48] <BigLebowski> Hey kuzmaster
[04:48] <billy> greetings earth_creatures.
[04:48] <Madpilot> zen, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ - and #ubuntu+1 for Feisty questions
[04:48] <fabiano> i din  t understend
[04:48] <Varsendaggr> i'll try both of them
[04:48] <billy> !pastebin
[04:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:49] <BigLebowski> Will there be a PPC Release of Feisty?
[04:49] <ramza3> where can I install dos2unix
[04:49] <zen> ramza3: did you try apt?
[04:49] <fabiano> hi
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> BigLebowski: #ubuntu+1
[04:49] <prevone> fabiano, what kind of video card do you have
[04:49] <zen> Madpilot, prevone: thanks.
[04:49] <ramza3> zen, sysutils package? I did but dont know what package
[04:49] <BigLebowski> tonyyarusso, Sorry, i just assumed someone may know.
[04:49] <fabiano> fx440
[04:50] <wilo> JohnPhys: when i was installing JVE from apt get, it installed and completed install, then it came up with some sort of gui in the terminal, ,like a dos terms and conditions, and asked em to confirm or deny terms and conditons
[04:50] <JohnPhys> BigLebowski: I think so, though I'm not sure if it's officially supported.
[04:50] <prevone> im not sure what that is, nvidia or ati?
[04:50] <fabiano> nvidia
[04:50] <prevone> k
[04:50] <wilo> and i couldn't do either, so i quit the terminal and yeah
[04:50] <fabiano> is nvidia
[04:50] <prevone> fabiano, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> BigLebowski: And they might - but they probably aren't paying attention here and they are there ;)
[04:51] <zen> ramza3: I'd be more help  if I was actually on Ubuntu...did you try, "apt-cache search dos2unix"?
[04:51] <JohnPhys> wilo: ok, that sounds normal, I can't remember exactly what to do there, but if it said something like (C)onfirm or (D)eny, then you would press C or D, respectively.
[04:51] <BigLebowski> Ah ok JohnPhys, thanks, saves me having to rebuild the 6.10 release.
[04:51] <wheels3572> can someone help me iwth a keybaord shortcut im trying to edit please
[04:51] <JohnPhys> BigLebowski: I could be 100% wrong though.
[04:51] <billy> wheels3572:  what sort of shortcut are you trying to make?
[04:52] <BigLebowski> JohnPhys, heh, aren't we all from time to time?
[04:52] <billy> wheels3572:  most can be edited by going to the top panel, System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts.
[04:52] <JohnPhys> BigLebowski: This might be useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376274
[04:53] <NETWizz> Hi
[04:53] <wheels3572> billy, that's not the one i want to edit.  im trying to get a shortcut to Terminal window
[04:53] <TheVault> I don't think I did something right for my wireless
[04:53] <NETWizz> Is the new ubuntu Beryl stable?
[04:53] <wheels3572> billy, wanna make it control t
[04:53] <wheels3572> billy, but when i go and do that it gives me a Capital C for control t
[04:54] <billy> wheels3572:  there is, in fact, a "run terminal" shortcut in System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts.
[04:54] <prevone> Beryl just released .2.0 the other day. it should be stable
[04:54] <TheVault> Its showing my wireless which is good, but its not showing how much signal strength I have when I view it. Its also not letting me conenct
[04:54] <NETWizz> Is it any better?
[04:54] <enderxim> NETWizz: I had no trouble installing 0.2.0 beryl whereas it took alot of effort to install 0.1.x on my machine.
[04:54] <Jrabbit> TheVault,  iwconfig
[04:54] <NETWizz> I have the update manager asking questions
[04:54] <Jrabbit> TheVault, sudo iwconfig
[04:55] <wheels3572> billy, there is?
[04:55] <TheVault> jrabbit: Alright, 1 sec
[04:55] <enderxim> NETWizz: What questions?
[04:55] <TheVault> jrabbit: Now what?
[04:55] <billy> wheels3572:  it's the last one in the desktop category in "Keyboard Shortcuts".
[04:55] <NETWizz> Just wanted to make sure it won't fuck up Beryl
[04:55] <NETWizz> I have installed beryl about 5 times so far
[04:55] <NETWizz> Every other time, something didn't work out
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | NETWizz
[04:55] <ubotu> NETWizz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:56] <wheels3572> billy, it might make a difference that im using Xubunut
[04:56] <NETWizz> What language?
[04:56] <wheels3572> Xubuntu*
[04:56] <enderxim> NETWizz: Yeah, same here. Just use their repos, install beryl and all that. Should be alright.
[04:56] <NETWizz> Did I not use ENglish?
[04:56] <davascript_home> !seen inteikey
[04:56] <billy> I want to help a friend install Gnome-ppp onto her computer so that she can configure her dial-up modem.  Where should I install Gnome-ppp?  /usr/bin perhaps?
[04:56] <davascript_home> !seen intelkey
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen inteikey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen intelkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <NETWizz> This is an English chatroom right?
[04:56] <davascript_home> god
[04:56] <JohnPhys> wilo:  have you tried reinstalling the java yet?
[04:56] <ardchoille> NETWizz: yes
[04:57] <dv8n11> i wouldnt install beryl on my workstation
[04:57] <BigLebowski> NETWizz, It was the swearing that got that reaction
[04:57] <ardchoille> NETWizz: Which language would you prefer?
[04:57] <billy> wheels3572:  oh, I'm sorry.  I shouldn't have assumed.  I'm only familiar with Gnome and KDE (a little).  no experience with the other, xfce, I think it's called.
[04:57] <wilo> JohnPhys: nope
[04:57] <dv8n11> is there #ubunut-de #ubuntu-es
[04:57] <dv8n11> guess not
[04:57] <JohnPhys> wilo: give it a try
[04:58] <kitche> !es | dv8n11
[04:58] <ubotu> dv8n11: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:58] <kitche> !de | dv8n11
[04:58] <ubotu> dv8n11: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:58] <dv8n11> hahah  donde esta el bano ubotu
[04:58] <wheels3572> billy, right xfce
[04:59] <TheVault> jrabbit: This is what I get when I do the sudo iwconfig http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/kylewitt/Iwconfig.png
[04:59] <billy> wheels3572:  sorry I can't help, though.  Seems like there ought to be something similiar for xfce.
[04:59] <TheVault> jrabbit:I have not configure the wpa-psk thing cause I'm not sure what to do
[04:59] <JohnPhys> wilo: if you get to the same terms and conditions screen, then paste the output
[05:00] <Dacvak> Ok, so I have a hard one, here... I'm using a Gyration Air Mouse with 5 buttons, and I'm trying to configure the remaining buttons to have some sort of function in Ubuntu. Anyone have any idea how I could go about doing that?
[05:00] <BigLebowski> JohnPhys, i believe the terms and conditions thing is just an ncurses GUI
[05:00] <dv8n11> yes you have to map the buttons using imwheel
[05:00] <Jrabbit> TheVault,  Sudo iwconfig ESSID "ESSIDNAME" ap any
[05:00] <enderxim> Besides bittorrent of course, what is a decent p2p app in linux/ubuntu? I'm looking for some obscure mp3's, should I just stick to direct connect, or would something else work just as well?
[05:00] <BigLebowski> Press tab untill it highlights the 'OK' or 'ACCEPT' or whatever it is, then press enter
[05:00] <noodles12> there is no shockwave for linux... wow that sucks =/
[05:01] <BigLebowski> Atleast, thats how i remembeer it.
[05:01] <JohnPhys> BigLebowski: ah, alright.  I couldn't remember what I did when I installed it
[05:01] <BigLebowski> Yeah, been a while since i installed java too
[05:01] <kitche> noodles12: there is flash that's what I use
[05:01] <wheels3572> billy, i agree
[05:01] <TheVault> jrabbit: I'm confused
[05:01] <noodles12> can flash view .swf ?
[05:02] <prevone> enderxim, frostwire (limewire clone), nicotine or pysoulseek (soulseek clients) are a start
[05:02] <TheVault> noodles12: Yuppers
[05:02] <kitche> noodles12: flash is .swf
[05:02] <somniis> noodles12: yes   swf stands for shockwave flash
[05:02] <enderxim> prevone: thank you
[05:02] <kuzmaster> !gtk2
[05:02] <andre_pl> I lost my log-out and switch user options, all I have is "quit" which drops right to gdm. what gives?
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <kuzmaster> !GTK2
[05:02] <kuzmaster> !Metacity
[05:02] <ubotu> metacity: A lightweight GTK2 based Window Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.16.3-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 385 kB, installed size 764 kB
[05:03] <noodles12> oh heheh thank sguys.. i don't get why it won't play >.<
[05:03] <Player> I'm trying to get my resolution and refresh rates set correctly for edgy. I've changed xorg.conf, I've tried installing the fglrx driver for my Radeon 9200, but the screen resolution tool just won't let me choose the right refresh rate and resolution.
[05:04] <madman91> how do i login?
[05:04] <madman91> to cus
[05:04] <madman91> cups
[05:04] <dv8n11> Dacvak: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171396&page=2
[05:04] <kuzmaster> hey....
[05:04] <Player> Is there a way to force set the refresh and resolution in X?
[05:04] <BigLebowski> Player, try sudo apkg-recconfigure xserver-xorg (i believe)
[05:04] <Dacvak> Thanks!
[05:04] <dv8n11> np
[05:04] <Player> thanks
[05:04] <kuzmaster> is there like a 'widget' app for ubuntu, like dashboard for mac, or konfabulator/yahoo widgets?
[05:04] <BigLebowski> Reconfigure X to use the resolutions and refresh rates you want
[05:04] <Dacvak> Does it matter that it's not a PS/2?
[05:04] <BigLebowski> backup xorg.conf incase it screws it though
[05:05] <bayziders> What progam could I use to delete my windows partition and add it to my linux one?
[05:05] <BigLebowski> GParted
[05:05] <rocca> hi
[05:05] <madman91> what is the url to access the cups network?
[05:05] <BigLebowski> Or fdisk
[05:05] <Player> hum, program not found
[05:05] <Player> (apkg-recconfigure)
[05:06] <BigLebowski> dpkg
[05:06] <JohnPhys> BigLebowski: should be dpkg (typo)
[05:06] <billy> Is Gnome-ppp included in the LiveCD.  My friend needs Gnome-ppp to configure dial-out.  Can she install it from the LiveCD?
[05:06] <BigLebowski> Sorry, typo
[05:06] <dv8n11> kuzmaster: superkaramba
[05:06] <kuzmaster> thanx
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> billy: I don't think so.  You can also configure dialup via the usual networking interface, or more powerfully, through wvdial directly.  Yes.
[05:06] <dv8n11> madman http://server:631
[05:06] <bayziders> My system is starting to get really slow
[05:06] <kitche> kuzmaster: superkaramba is for kde just so you know
[05:07] <dv8n11> madman http://<server>:631
[05:07] <bayziders> is there any thing I can do to speed it up
[05:07] <kuzmaster> i see....
[05:07] <kuzmaster> is there one that was made for gnome?
[05:07] <BigLebowski> Or GDesklets
[05:07] <dv8n11> who cares your using binaries
[05:07] <BigLebowski> if you're using gnome
[05:07] <rocca> my touchpad is very very slow, I changed the speed with "synclient MinSpeed=0.9 MaxSpeed=1.8", it works but I can't fix it at the reboot, what should I do ?
[05:07] <Dacvak> How do you message someone in red?
[05:07] <dv8n11> Dacvak:   type dv8 hit tab
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> Dacvak: say their nick
[05:07] <bayziders> I will be right back
[05:08] <Dacvak> dv8n11, Nice
[05:08] <BigLebowski> kuzmaster, gdesklets
[05:08] <kuzmaster> thanks
[05:08] <dv8n11> ther is also adesklets
[05:08] <kitche> dv8n11: superkaramba depends on some kde libs
[05:08] <dv8n11> yes but its just binaries
[05:08] <Dacvak> dv8n11, Anyway, that didn't actually work. The gyration mouse is kinda weird. I couldn't find any help in the forums, either.
[05:08] <intelikey>            does anyone know how to install grub on a partitionless disk ?       or can it even be done ?
[05:09] <BigLebowski> Wouldn't it be easier just using something liek gdesklets instead of something that uses QT?
[05:09] <dv8n11> for your intellimouse
[05:09] <billy> tonyyarusso:  thx for reply.  I was thinking that too, though there seem to be success stories with Gnome-ppp.  I was at her house yesterday (out of town) and couldn't get it working with wvdial.  The modem appeared in the Device Manager, yet I could never activate the modem through the panel applet (as suggested).  Any thoughts would really be appreciated.  No internet is the only thing holding my friend back.
[05:09] <dv8n11> try changing your drier in xorg.cofn
[05:09] <dv8n11> conf
[05:09] <intelikey> dv8n11 what happened to you while ago ?
[05:09] <dv8n11> can you paste your xorg.xonf in www.rafb.net
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> billy: You could certainly put the gnome-ppp .deb on a flash drive and install it in the live session if you think that will help
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> billy: Do you have the right driver for it?
[05:10] <bayziders> Can some one help me install frostwire some thing keeps on going wrong with my java install
[05:10] <dv8n11> i rebooted into my gento system cus knoversation wouldnt work and i couldnt use irssi correctly for multiple roooms
[05:10] <intelikey> ok.
[05:10] <dv8n11> if you still want #dv8n11
[05:10] <Dacvak> dv8n11, Did you want me to paste my xorg.conf?
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> !java | bayziders
[05:10] <ubotu> bayziders: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:10] <dv8n11> yes please
[05:11] <dv8n11> adn type of mouse
[05:11] <Dacvak> http://rafb.net/p/9W4p3s15.html
[05:11] <colbert> How do I change my recycle bin icon ??
[05:12] <VeganChick> Both of my dvd players are acting weird. The screen is split in half diagonally, and each half is moving at a slightly different speed...
[05:12] <ramza3> random observation, everything with UBUNTU = good, other stuff (like misc linux docs) = sucks
[05:12] <billy> tonyyarusso, this lady has an older computer. no flash drive.  she dual boots with windows, so downloading and then copying over would be feasible.  Not sure about the driver.  Used scanModem.  Couldn't find driver online.
[05:12] <Player> thanks BigLebowski, that worked for me. Could you tell me why the Screen Resolution app was so restrictive on options?
[05:12] <ramza3> everytime I veer from the ubuntu site, I get scared
[05:13] <dv8n11> Dacvak: what kind of mouse
[05:13] <Madpilot> ramza3, there are some good 3rd party docs out there - the Gentoo wiki is generally good, for example.
[05:13] <dv8n11> Dacvak: instal xev
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> billy: Try sending the scanModem results to the linmodems.org mailing list - they're very good
[05:13] <Dacvak> Gyration Optical 2.4 Air Mouse
[05:13] <madman91> what is the url to access the cups network?
[05:13] <ramza3> Madpilot, gentoo is pretty cool, I went from gentoo to ubuntu a while back. ok, outside of gentoo and ubuntu info
[05:14] <billy> tonyyarusso, thank you.  I'll try that.
[05:14] <Dacvak> dv8n11, What's xev?
[05:14] <dv8n11> you ar egoing to have to find out which buttons to map i use 6 7  but i have a diff ouse
[05:14] <dv8n11> X event
[05:14] <bayziders> How can I put a trash icon on my desktop?
[05:14] <dv8n11> you run it and when you hit buttons on your mouse it will let you know how th mouse talks to X
[05:15] <BigLebowski> ramza3, gentoo is cool, i just hate spending 2 days compiling stuff to get a usable system.
[05:15] <ramza3> uea
[05:15] <bayziders> Each day I use Ubuntu I get more enthusiastic about it.
[05:15] <Dacvak> dv8n11, where can I get it?
[05:15] <ramza3> BigLebowski, that is why I quit it, and worse, whenever you need latest and greatest and start getting the latest and greatest dependencies, and then your system is hosed
[05:15] <VeganChick> anyone have any tips on what to do when you have DVD playback problems?
[05:16] <delire> VeganChick: what sort of problems?
[05:16] <madman91> dv8n11: what do i fill in for server
[05:16] <VeganChick> delitre: the screen is split in half and running at slightly different speeds
[05:16] <VeganChick> delire*
[05:16] <JohnPhys> VeganChick: Sorry, no idea on the diag/split/differentspeeds
[05:16] <BigLebowski> ramza3, Yep, i tend to setup an rsync server so i don't have that problem though
[05:16] <BigLebowski> Just revert to a working setup
[05:17] <dv8n11> Dacvak:  apt get instal xev
[05:17] <dv8n11> madman91: the hostname of the pc that has cupsd running
[05:17] <delire> VeganChick: that's odd. doesn't sound like raw bus bandwidth.
[05:17] <madman91> dv8n11: how do i check hostname,, is that the thing in the terminal?
[05:17] <delire> ..problems
[05:17] <VeganChick> delire: yeah, I have no idea why it's doing this...
[05:17] <dv8n11> run hostname
[05:17] <delire> madman91: 'hostname'
[05:17] <delire> VeganChick: have you tried mplayer?
[05:17] <VeganChick> delire: I just switched to xubuntu from ubuntu, would that make any difference?
[05:17] <dv8n11> no
[05:18] <delire> VeganChick: 'mplayer dvd://'
[05:18] <Dacvak> How do I run the program, again?
[05:18] <madman91> delire + dv8n11 : thanks
[05:18] <delire> VeganChick: hmm, i'd say that should improve things.
[05:18] <dv8n11> np anytime
[05:18] <VeganChick> delire: is that the same thing as Movie Player?
[05:18] <billy> bayziders: it'd be far simpler to put one in the panel, but I'm sure you know that already.  Not sure how to add one to the desktop.
[05:18] <diego_> hello i need some help
[05:18] <delire> VeganChick: no it's a commandline application that is very good for playing video.
[05:18] <BigLebowski> VLC > *
[05:18] <bayziders> Does any one else know?
[05:18] <BigLebowski> Whats up diego_?
[05:18] <diego_> i cant get the same resolution in my screen that i have in windows
[05:19] <bayziders> I am trying to keep it to one pannel and I am running out of room
[05:19] <diego_> i need 1024x768 70hz
[05:19] <JohnPhys> diego_: what resolution?
[05:19] <ramza3> I just installed a device driver (just got out of make install and ldconfig), is there a way that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will pick it up or do I hve to do it manually
[05:19] <diego_> but i cant get that
[05:19] <diego_> i tried everything
[05:19] <delire> VeganChick: see if you can install mplayer and then try 'mplayer dvd://' on the command line. it gives very useful debug output.
[05:19] <JohnPhys> diego_: what kind of graphics card do you have, and what specifically have you tried?
[05:19] <^_genie_^> diego_: re-config x
[05:19] <diego_> im using the driver i810
[05:19] <bayziders> in chmod what command can I use to make the file read and write able by every one
[05:20] <^_genie_^> diego_, re-config x
[05:20] <diego_> i tried editing the x config file
[05:20] <delire> bayziders: chmod ugo+rw file
[05:20] <dv8n11> chmod 744 i think
[05:20] <billy> diego_ : have you tried `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` ?
[05:20] <diego_> i get the 1024 but with 60hz
[05:20] <dv8n11> no no chmod 777
[05:20] <colbert> How do I change my recycle bin icon ??
[05:20] <dv8n11> world writeable
[05:20] <diego_> yes
[05:20] <tombow> ssh hostname:portnumber is proper syntax, right?
[05:21] <VeganChick> delire: would that be the same thing as mplayer32?
[05:21] <Rodekil> ubuntu defaults to 60 hz. I've never tried to change it, but I think that you need to change the file
[05:21] <jbraddoc> Wholy cow are there alot of people in here...
[05:21] <ghatak> Hi, I am currently using Edgy, How do i upgrade to Fiesty ?
[05:21] <Rodekil> xconfig that is
[05:21] <NETWizz> @cpudan
[05:21] <NETWizz> you there?
[05:21] <billy> !upgrade | ghatak
[05:21] <ubotu> ghatak: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:21] <delire> bayziders: i prefer the letter syntax over the number syntax. u == user, g == group, o == other, + == add, r == read, w == write.
[05:21] <diego_> billy, the timing i need to use is 56.5khz 70hz NN
[05:21] <BigLebowski> bayziders, chmod 777?
[05:22] <NETWizz> got to restart X
[05:22] <NETWizz> brb
[05:22] <NETWizz> I replaced beryl
[05:22] <Dacvak> dv8n11, Hey, the other buttons aren't being recognized as buttons. They're being recognized as KeyPresses.
[05:22] <dv8n11> yes that how they ar eused
[05:23] <dv8n11> you will have to use imwheel
[05:23] <billy> diego_ : when you lspci in terminal, is your graphics card ICH7 family?
[05:23] <bayziders> !java
[05:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:23] <dv8n11> adn edit ~/.imwheel.rc
[05:23] <dv8n11> adn edit ~/.imwheelrc
[05:23] <diego_> no
[05:23] <diego_> ICH4
[05:23] <billy> diego_ : perhaps i810 isn't the right driver.
[05:24] <VeganChick> weird...the clock says "0:23"
[05:24] <VeganChick> so not used to that format...
[05:24] <cosmo_> is there a way to be able to write to a NTFS drive?
[05:24] <NETWIzz> back
[05:24] <billy> VeganChick:  you have it set to 24 hr format.
[05:24] <Dacvak> dv8n11, So, what am I supposed to do?
[05:24] <diego_> my card is a intel 845G
[05:24] <NETWIzz> @cosmo
[05:24] <NETWIzz> Yes
[05:24] <NETWIzz> Install NTFS3G
[05:24] <dv8n11> install imwheel
[05:24] <VeganChick> billy: oh...
[05:24] <JohnPhys> !ntfs3g
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <dv8n11> ubotu stupidass
[05:24] <blanky> !ntfs | johnm
[05:24] <BigLebowski> cosmo_ ntfs-3g
[05:24] <cosmo_> sweet thanks
[05:24] <BigLebowski> Ahh, too late :P
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stupidass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <ubotu> johnm: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:24] <blanky> LOL
[05:25] <blanky> ubotu life
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Madpilot> Folks, stop spamming the bot
[05:25] <billy> diego_ : perhaps try driver just above i810 when you `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`.
[05:25] <blanky> sorry, had to do that :(
[05:25] <blanky> I love ubotu though
[05:25] <blanky> !botsnack
[05:25] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:25] <tombow> i changed the sshd port to a non-standard port and now i can't log in, "connection refused"...
[05:25] <BigLebowski> :O We shalt not speak of YUM.
[05:25] <diego_> i740
[05:26] <kingrayray> anybody wanna help me get the OSS radeon driver to work with acceleration? or point me to a helpful howto or something? i'm stumped and getting pretty frustrated.. direct rendering worked when i installed and then i decided to toy with fglrx which was a bad idea
[05:26] <billy> diego_ : it's worth a shot.  just theory though.
[05:26] <kingrayray> i can't get it back lol
[05:26] <VeganChick> billy: where do I go to change the time settings? I can't find it...
[05:26] <billy> VeganChick:  right click the clock.
[05:26] <mboso> how do I check what options a package was compiled with?
[05:26] <billy> VeganChick:  then select preferences.  there ought to be a toggle for 24hr format.
[05:26] <VeganChick> billy: hah, my right-click isn't working. i just installed xubuntu
[05:27] <diego_> billy, i think that the auto detect overides my config file
[05:27] <diego_> (II) I810(0): Using detected DDC timings
[05:27] <Dacvak> dv8n11, I don't understand what imwheel does. I downloaded it, and apparently it's running. Nothing is different.
[05:27] <billy> diego_ : when reconfiguring, do not select "automatically."
[05:27] <chalmer> why did my screen res. change to 600x480 by it's self?
[05:28] <chalmer> help any1?
[05:28] <diego_> ok
[05:28] <chalmer> help !!!
[05:29] <diego_> billy, where?
[05:29] <billy> chalmer:  what did you do just before it changed resolutions?  Any new packages?
[05:29] <chalmer> no i dont think so
[05:30] <Joshooa> How can I find out what file to add to my startup for Gaim and GMail Notifier?
[05:30] <silver6> kingrayray, did you change back your xorg.conf to the original (i.e. "ati" not "fglrx")
[05:30] <dv8n11> you will have to write login script for it
[05:30] <kingrayray> is it ati that i use? i can't find a clear answer
[05:30] <chalmer> just been running all day and about 6 hours later it was changed to 600x480
[05:30] <kingrayray> i know ZERO about using ati these days
[05:30] <dv8n11> man imwheel and what wm/de do yo uuse
[05:30] <silver6> kingrayray, yes. ati and radeon do the same thing
[05:31] <dv8n11> x k or g
[05:31] <kingrayray> silver6, so if its on radeon it'll work too?
[05:31] <MikeC2> pft
[05:31] <chalmer> everthing is big
[05:31] <billy> diego_ : write this down.  drop to a command line with ctrl-alt-f1.  then type `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`.  go through the process.  do not select automatically detect video.  when done, do `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop` then `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start`.  If you get an error, go back through dpkg-reconfigure and select another driver.
[05:31] <silver6> kingrayray, it should, but when you first load ubuntu it is "ati" in the xorg.conf, so maybe try that
[05:32] <kingrayray> well, i did a dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and chose ati
[05:32] <chalmer> billy
[05:32] <kingrayray> which should revert it to defaults right?
[05:32] <kingrayray> but it doesn't work :(
[05:32] <nooaa> hi guys
[05:32] <shadowman> /mode $me +x
[05:32] <billy> chalmer:  that's strange.  you cannot change it back in Preferences?
[05:32] <maxamillion> feisty will include gnome 2.18 correct?
[05:33] <billy> maxamillion:  feisty talk is in #ubuntu+1
[05:33] <nooaa> does anyone know if ubuntu has asp server support
[05:33] <maxamillion> billy: rgr
[05:33] <silver6> also, make sure Composite isn't set to false in your xorg.conf. why don't you paste your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ i'll have a look
[05:33] <Dacvak> dv8n11, I don't know, I'm really new to this. I installed Ubuntu last night, so I really don't understand most of it.
[05:33] <madman91> Dacvak: dont give up
[05:33] <chalmer> no when i click to change the res. nothing. it want even let me change the monitor refresh rate either
[05:33] <dv8n11> i understand
[05:33] <nooaa> does anyone know if ubuntu has asp server support
[05:34] <kingrayray> silver6, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10721
[05:34] <nooaa> or is there a apt-get function to install asp server support
[05:34] <billy> chalmer:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in command line.
[05:35] <Dacvak> madman91, Do you know how I could get an 8-button mouse to work? The last three buttons are being recognized as keypresses, not actual buttons.
[05:35] <shadowman> should be in your mouse settings
[05:35] <chalmer> how do i open the command line?
[05:35] <shadowman> accessories
[05:35] <shadowman> teminal
[05:36] <chalmer> k
[05:36] <billy> chalmer:  ctrl-alt-f1.  write down the command before you go there.
[05:36] <VeganChick> EIGHT buttons? wtf?
[05:36] <shadowman> lol
[05:37] <nooaa> can anyone help me please
[05:37] <exs> hello guys!! I'm back from a night club and I have just realized, it is impossible to get pissed whilst you have a cold!!
[05:37] <billy> exs:  true.
[05:37] <kingrayray> exs, hahahahaha
[05:38] <exs> Thankd for your replies
[05:38] <nooaa> does anyone know if ubuntu can have asp server support
[05:38] <madman91> Dacvak: no i dont.. i havent made mine to work either
[05:38] <madman91> Dacvak: i have given up
[05:38] <kingrayray> silver6, ???
[05:38] <exs> i spent lots of phone credit talking to a fat girl i know for an hour.
[05:38] <silver6> kingrayray, xorg.conf looks ok. maybe try changing "radeon" to "ati" in the device section, since it's the ubuntu default. but not sure that's what it is
[05:38] <kingrayray> ok
[05:38] <mand0> why is that exs ?
[05:38] <billy> Dacvak:  do you have an "Options" "ButtonLayout" "1 2 3 6 7" line in your xorg.conf ?
[05:38] <whta> ok guys. time for the million dollar question. which text editor should i use for programming? i'd prefer NOT to have a command line text editor >_>
[05:38] <chalmer> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[05:39] <billy> whta:  vi
[05:39] <exs> mand0:  why is what?.. the chat on the phone??.. because she's actually a nice girl
[05:39] <chalmer> whats that mean?
[05:39] <billy> whta:  oh sorry.  nvmind.
[05:39] <nooaa> anyone
[05:39] <nooaa> anyone
[05:39] <nooaa> anyone
[05:39] <Dacvak> billy, Yeah
[05:39] <kingrayray> ok well i changed it, gonna reboot for a fresh start. thanks for helpin me out silver6, was getting desperate
[05:39] <Dacvak> billy, Wait, maybe not.
[05:39] <mand0> exs: No, i meant getting pissed while you have a cold
[05:40] <billy> Dacvak:  also a "YZAxis" "4 5" line?
[05:40] <Dacvak> billy, Yes
[05:40] <nooaa> anyone
[05:40] <nooaa> anyone
[05:40] <nooaa> anyone
[05:40] <nooaa> anyone
[05:40] <nooaa> anyone
[05:40] <nooaa> anyone
[05:40] <nooaa> anyone
[05:40] <billy> !enter | nooaa
[05:40] <ubotu> nooaa: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:40] <mand0> nooaa: shush
[05:40] <silver6> kingrayray, no prob let me know how it goes
[05:40] <BigLebowski> nooaa, You're not going to get an answer like that.
[05:41] <nooaa> sorry
[05:41] <billy> Dacvak:  and you've restarted X since adding those lines?
[05:41] <nooaa> guys
[05:41] <Dacvak> billy, Yes
[05:41] <BigLebowski> What is the problem nooaa?
[05:41] <nooaa> was not sure if my connection was working a
[05:41] <nooaa> does anyone know if ubuntu has asp server support
[05:41] <billy> Dacvak:  what model mouse?
[05:41] <nooaa> ***can have
[05:41] <Dacvak> billy, I think the main problem is, the extra buttons aren't being recognized as buttons. They're being recognized as "keypresses" KeyPress 183, 184, and 185.
[05:41] <BigLebowski> I believe there is an apache module for ASP support, you're SOL on ASP.NET though
[05:42] <Dacvak> billy, It's a Gyration Air Mouse.
[05:42] <tombow> asp.net is shit though
[05:42] <BigLebowski> tombow, compared to?
[05:42] <tombow> asp
[05:42] <exs> mand0: well, it seems as though that if you have a cold, you are unable to get pissed. that is all!
[05:42] <kingrayray> silver6, mind if i PM?
[05:42] <nooaa> just that there is a cms system i want
[05:42] <silver6> sure
[05:42] <nooaa> and it runs on flippen asp[
[05:42] <tombow> actually, mono supports asp.net
[05:42] <BigLebowski> Heh, I love linux, but, .NET is a fantastic dev platform
[05:43] <tombow> .net sucks ass
[05:43] <BigLebowski> And mono is getting better.
[05:43] <tombow> .net is for corporate drones
[05:43] <BigLebowski> tombow, any technical reasons for such a statement? or just pure eletism?
[05:43] <Varanger> hi !
[05:44] <tombow> BigLebowski, not much specific to .net (most apply to C++ and java as well)
[05:44] <Varanger> Is there any option to make a backup of a folder  and subfolder including .* files but avoiding some extension... ??
[05:44] <nooaa> i dont think i set my server up properly is there anyone that can help me
[05:45] <BigLebowski> tombow, fair enough, and you're prefered dev language/framework?
[05:45] <shadowman> why the hell woudl you want to do that
[05:45] <davascript_home> what up nooaa
[05:45] <Dacvak> billy, How do I assign KeyPress XXX to have a function?
[05:45] <BigLebowski> And i agree on C++, half arsed OO Implementation
[05:45] <|3lack|ce> Good evening. Needing help with an older version of Ubuntu - running off live cd. Anyone have time?
[05:45] <Pablo> what is the problem?
[05:46] <davascript_home> Dacvak: you have to use imwheel and xmodmap to map the buttons
[05:46] <billy> Dacvak:  not sure about that.  I'm not getting any helpful returns with Google Linux either.  Wish I could help more.
[05:47] <Scunizi> Suddenly Ekiga will not register me. How can I help you help me get this working again?
[05:47] <Dacvak> davascript_home, I do not. I'm not sure how do use those programs. I'm new as of last night.
[05:47] <davascript_home> ~/.Xmodmap is where yo map the buttons
[05:47] <|3lack|ce> Video issues - running 5.04 ubuntu - amd64bit machine 2gigs ram nvidia 7800xfx video card.  screen is scrolled about 2 inches to the right and I can't resolve.
[05:47] <davascript_home> its a file
[05:47] <Dacvak> Where is it?
[05:48] <davascript_home>  /home/username/.Xmodmap  it is a script you might have to create it
[05:48] <Dacvak> What would I type?
[05:48] <davascript_home> pm me and i will show you my ~/.Xmodmap
[05:49] <tombow> keysym Escape = grave asciitilde
[05:49] <tombow> keysym grave = Escape asciitilde
[05:49] <tombow> ^^^ 1337 xmodmap mapping
[05:50] <ravigehlot> If asked between Sendmail, Postfix or QMAIL which one would you choose and why?
[05:50] <Dacvak> davascript_home, Did you get my pm?
[05:51] <dilch> ravigehlot, i use postfix ... easy to set up and configure
[05:51] <tombow> one of my goals in life is to be able to set up sendmail
[05:51] <MikeC2> tombow: <3
[05:51] <BigLebowski> tombow, come on, set your sights a little higher ;-)
[05:52] <ravigehlot> dilch: ok
[05:52] <dilch> it's not hard to set up sendmail, just involved
[05:52] <davascript_home> no
[05:52] <BigLebowski> The biggest pain in the ass on linux is X, period.
[05:52] <noodles12> this is a dumb question but where are the temporary internet files?
[05:52] <dilch> X? what's the problem?
[05:53] <tombow> "setting up sendmail" is right below "cure cancer" and "sleep with japanese twins" in my list of things to do before i die
[05:53] <BigLebowski> Almost any problem i've ever spent more than 20 mins fixing is normally X.
[05:53] <MikeC2> I just gave up on compositing, caused way to many issues for a spiffy cube.
[05:53] <chalmer> billy
[05:54] <billy> chalmer
[05:54] <tombow> tombow
[05:54] <tombow> wait..
[05:54] <dilch> chalmer?
[05:54] <chalmer> never mind
[05:54] <Dacvak> How do I set up Xmodmap?
[05:54] <diego_> billy, i get the same refresh rate
[05:54] <BigLebowski> tombow, does it matter about the gender of the twins? :P
[05:54] <tombow> ubuntu's gnome should detect it upon log in Dacvak
[05:54] <ijmi> I'm having a hard time connecting to my wireless network on edgy-eft. I can use my wireless card, see ssid's in the area, but when I try to connect to my router, all I get is "DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval #"
[05:54] <billy> diego_ : nothing's better?
[05:55] <diego_> nop
[05:55] <chalmer> i restarted tha comp and tha screen res. went back to normal instead og 600x480
[05:55] <davascript_home> !xmodmap Dacvak
[05:55] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[05:55] <diego_> same timing 48.3/60
[05:55] <diego_> i want 56.5/70
[05:55] <davascript_home> Dacvak: did you get my pm
[05:55] <davascript_home> Dacvak: have you registered your nicname
[05:56] <Dacvak> I have not.
[05:56] <billy> chalmer:  that's progress.  :)
[05:56] <yell0w> hey guys, i know this's a long shot, but after doing mk2fs e2fsck , is it still possible to recover data from a partition ?
[05:56] <dilch> Dacvak, you can try xkeycaps
[05:56] <MikeC2> Hey, how can I disable CPU throttleing?
[05:56] <billy> diego_ : not sure how to change that.  never had to deal with that issue.
[05:56] <chalmer> so how do i config my internet?
[05:56] <dilch> Dacvak, as in "sudo apt-get install xkeycaps"
[05:56] <vir3nt> Using the automatic ati xgl beryl script, my resolution is messed and my monitor wont display it.
[05:56] <Dacvak> I'll try that, thanks for the command.
[05:57] <davascript_home> Dacvak: run /msg nickserv register Dacvak
[05:57] <billy> MikeC2:  what's the problem with the throttling?
[05:57] <chalmer> so how do i config my internet?
[05:57] <billy> chalmer:  using dial-up.
[05:57] <billy> ?
[05:57] <chalmer> DSL
[05:57] <Dacvak> Already registered. Maybe I registered a while ago?
[05:57] <chalmer> bellsouth
[05:57] <MikeC2> usually I like it, but with amarok its... kinda funny the visulization jumps frame rates as the scale changes ;p
[05:57] <Dacvak> I can't imagine anyone else using this nick.
[05:58] <MikeC2> I assume just keep it at max, the power savings isnt that amazing.
[05:58] <RiverRat> Does the install CD have chroot on it?
[05:58] <buddha> what does sudo apt-get do?
[05:58] <MikeC2> buddha: its a way to install software
[05:58] <billy> MikeC2:  can you disable it in your BIOS?
[05:58] <chalmer> my other 3 comp's run grest but this 1 w/ edubuntu run slower than dialup
[05:59] <davascript_home> Dacvak: run /msg nickserv identify <password.
[05:59] <davascript_home> Dacvak: run /msg nickserv identify <password>
[05:59] <MikeC2> buddha: sudo(root mode) apt-get(apt method) then you would use something like install firefox
[05:59] <chalmer> is there something that needs to b config.?
[05:59] <davascript_home> MikeC2: run man apt-get  and man apt-cache
[05:59] <MikeC2> billy: I bet I can, just wondering if theres a apci setting or something I can just set in linux
[05:59] <buddha> MikeC2:does it go to the ubuntu website or is it stored locally?
[05:59] <Dacvak> Accepted. Ok, now I can PM.
[05:59] <roe> about 2 weeks ago I did a dist-upgrade which installed 2.6.17-11 kernel, but when I boot to it the nvidia module is broken, is this something I can fix or is it something ubuntu needs to?
[06:00] <MikeC2> buddha: online
[06:00] <MikeC2> davascript_home: why o.O?
[06:00] <buddha> thanks
[06:00] <MikeC2> np
[06:00] <chalmer> is there something that needs to b config.?
[06:00] <davascript_home> MikeC2: man pages will teach you everything
[06:01] <billy> MikeC2:  does `cpufreq-info` return anything?
[06:01] <dilch> roe, reinstall the nvidia drivers
[06:01] <erstazi> buddha: the manual has more information http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[06:01] <MikeC2> davascript_home: I was explaining to someone else about apt-get ;p
[06:01] <roe> dilch, nvidia-glx package?
[06:01] <davascript_home> oh
[06:01] <dilch> roe, yeah
[06:01] <davascript_home> sorry
[06:01] <ijmi> Can anyone tell me why my laptop is trying to DHCPDISCOVER to 255.255.255.255 instead of 192.168.0.1, and specifically, how I can change that?
[06:01] <roe> did that
[06:01] <chalmer> is there something that needs to b config.? for my network for tha dsl
[06:01] <dilch> roe, well it has to rebuild the modules for the new kernel
[06:01] <MikeC2> billy: I dont have that command o.O
[06:02] <billy> MikeC2:  oh.  you're using a different package to scale than me then.  Not sure how to pull it off.
[06:02] <MikeC2> whatever is built into kubuntu?
[06:03] <billy> MikeC2:  the good folks in #kubuntu would probably know.  :)
[06:03] <eck> ijmi: that is how dhcp works
[06:03] <MikeC2> hehe, alirght
[06:03] <MikeC2> ty tho
[06:04] <dilch> roe, maybe install linux-restricted-modules if you haven't already
[06:04] <ijmi> eck: Oh yeah, good call.
[06:04] <eck> ijmi: that will be broadcast to all link-local devices
[06:04] <slvmchn> is there any program to see how hot my processor is running
[06:04] <eck> how else would the computer know the ip address of the router?
[06:04] <roe> dilch, yea, i have those packages already
[06:04] <ijmi> eck: No, I understand, I blacked out or something for a minute there. Any idea why the router isn't DHCPOFFERing anything?
[06:04] <chalmer> is there something that needs to b config.? for my network for tha dsl
[06:04] <erstazi> slvmchn: is your mobo set up to be able to give that information?
[06:04] <dilch> ijmi, it is a broadcast address .. it is looking for everything on the network
[06:05] <dilch> roe, and you've reinstalled them both?
[06:05] <eck> ijmi: uh, see if you can make your router keep logs (or let you view them), most routers can do that
[06:05] <chalmer> help w/ internet?
[06:05] <roe> dilch, I did not re-install the restricted modules package
[06:06] <dilch> roe, try that now
[06:06] <dilch> roe, as they are different modules :)
[06:06] <chalmer> help w/ internet?
[06:07] <poningru> chalmer: whatsup?
[06:07] <chalmer> help w/ internet?
[06:07] <nooaa> davascript_home ???
[06:07] <poningru> see that doesnt explain it to me
[06:07] <diego_> How can i get the same modeline for my x config file that windows use for my monitor
[06:07] <poningru> diego_: what do you mean modeline?
[06:07] <poningru> like refresh rate?
[06:08] <dilch> roe, everytime you update the kernel, you'll have to update the restricted modules, as they have to match
[06:08] <poningru> or like resolution?
[06:08] <diego_> modeline for my monitor configuration
[06:08] <diego_> i need the same refresh rate that i have in windows
[06:08] <chalmer> do i need to config anything for my dsl to wrrk?
[06:08] <erstazi> diego: look on the internet for your model
[06:08] <poningru> chalmer: how are you connected to dsl modem?
[06:08] <chalmer> its slower than dial-up
[06:08] <tombow> chalmer, is your dsl configured correctly?
[06:08] <diego_> poningru, i did
[06:08] <poningru> chalmer: ethernet or usb?
[06:09] <erstazi> diego_: what model do you have?
[06:09] <diego_> i have the horizontal refresh and the vertival refresh
[06:09] <diego_> samsung 551v
[06:09] <chalmer> router/ wrt54-g
[06:09] <diego_> in windows i have 56.5khz 70hz NN 1024x768
[06:09] <poningru> chalmer: so ethernet cable right?
[06:09] <davascript_home> openwrt ftw
[06:09] <poningru> davascript_home++
[06:09] <diego_> but in ubuntu i get 48.3 60 1024x768
[06:09] <chalmer> 4 port w/ 3 other comp's w/ windows
[06:10] <intelikey> diego_ not important but one is refresh the other is sync  :)
[06:10] <chalmer> yes
[06:10] <poningru> chalmer: what version of ubuntu?
[06:10] <diego_> i need 70hz for the refresh
[06:10] <davascript_home> yessir poningru
[06:10] <diego_> and im getting 60
[06:10] <chalmer> edubuntu LTs
[06:10] <diego_> in 800x600 i get 85 the same i get in windows
[06:10] <diego_> but in 1024 i cant get the 70hz
[06:11] <erstazi> diego_: your xorg.conf needs edited to match the settings
[06:11] <chalmer> edubuntu LTs
[06:11] <poningru> chalmer: ok here lets try couple of things
[06:11] <erstazi> diego_: do you know the min and max of both refresh and sync?
[06:11] <poningru> chalmer: open up a terminal
[06:11] <diego_> erstazi, yes
[06:11] <erstazi> diego_: what are they?
[06:11] <poningru> chalmer: type this and press enter: ping google.com
[06:12] <Guest52285> hey anyone here studying IT At The Moment?
[06:12] <whta> does the vim tutorial come with ubuntu?
[06:12] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, can anyone suggest an OCR (Optical Character Recognition) package with high-percentage recognition for ubuntu?
[06:12] <poningru> Guest52285: studying IT?
[06:12] <diego_> erstazi, horiz 30 - 55 vert 50-120
[06:12] <Guest52285> yeah, infomation technology
[06:12] <poningru> Guest52285: I know what IT means
[06:12] <`anthony> anyone got suggestions for printing onto a CDROM - are there gimp templates or similar?
[06:12] <diego_> but i think in windows the timing i use es 56.5 70 nn
[06:12] <poningru> just ask your question man
[06:12] <Hobbsee> whta: run vimtutor
[06:12] <erstazi> diego_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[06:12] <intelikey> sethk did you ever remember/find what sets the number of consoles ?
[06:12] <ott0> running ubuntu edgy on a laptop with irregular screen, got 915resolution which modifies the bios to recognize the new resolution, but I need to run it at startup before x starts -- haven't found any good information about how to do this... can anyone point me to a good place / help me?
[06:12] <Madpilot> `anthony, use glabels, it's got templates for CDROM labels
[06:13] <chalmer> k
[06:13] <poningru> ott0: install the package
[06:13] <Guest52285> well, its sorta indepth, if theres a more appropriate chatroom for my questions, can you please refer me?
[06:13] <poningru> 915resolution
[06:13] <whta> hobbsee: it says that it's not a valid command
[06:13] <poningru> Guest52285: just ask here dude
[06:13] <`anthony> Madpilot: Ta much!
[06:13] <Guest52285> im doing an assignment, systems overview
[06:13] <Hobbsee> whta: install vim, not just vi
[06:13] <Madpilot> Guest52285, if it's not directly related to Ubuntu tech support, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:13] <compilerwriter> Has anyone else had strange things occur with the mounting and unmounting of floppy drives?  If so, did you get the thing solved?  How did you solve it?
[06:13] <Varsendaggr> i have a link for an itunes pod cast (the link is going to the itunes store...)   how do i make ipodder do it.
[06:13] <ott0> poningru: I already installed it and it works great, but right now I have to run it and then restart x each time
[06:13] <poningru> wth
[06:13] <ott0> i don't know how to make it run at startup
[06:13] <poningru> that should do it automagically
[06:14] <poningru> hmm weird
[06:14] <dilch> intelikey, for the number of consoles see /etc/initttab, and specifically the getty entries
[06:14] <Varsendaggr> is there i tunes for linux
[06:14] <`anthony> compilerwriter: People still _own_ floppy drives? :)
[06:14] <slvmchn> erstazi: to be honest i have no idea if it's set up to show it
[06:14] <poningru> ott0: do you know init scripts?
[06:14] <slvmchn> erstazi: i just assumed it would be able to
[06:14] <compilerwriter> Yes they some people still do own the damned things.
[06:14] <starseed> this might be a common question, I'm trying to install 6.10 , after i manually edit my partitions it asks me to set the mount points. I the get a "no root file system" error, not letting me proceed / i have the partition I want set to "/" though .. anyone else run across this ?
[06:14] <poningru> chalmer: press ctrl+c after like a few times
[06:14] <dilch> intelikey, the entries that look like "2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2"
[06:14] <diego_> i did that but i cant get the 70 refresh rate
[06:14] <poningru> and put the output in pastebin
[06:14] <Alonea> compilerwriter: hmm, you got any friends with floppy drives?
[06:14] <poningru> !pastebin | chalmer
[06:14] <ubotu> chalmer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:14] <intelikey> dilch yeah i know that.  but if you comment out all but one.  the other 5 consoles are still activated only there is no getty running on them.
[06:15] <compilerwriter> 'anthony and I occaisinally have to deal with them.
[06:15] <erstazi> slvmchn: some mobo's can't read the temp
[06:15] <erstazi> diego_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:15] <billy> starseed:  that has happened to me before.
[06:15] <erstazi> diego_: run that in terminal
[06:15] <intelikey> dilch i want them to not be active.
[06:15] <diego_> erstazi, i did that like 3 times
[06:15] <compilerwriter> I have one or two friends with floppy drives alonea?
[06:15] <ott0> poningru: yeah, I was thinking I would have to edit one but I can't find them in ubuntu
[06:15] <poningru> starseed: your root should be atleast 2 gig big
[06:15] <poningru> ott0: /etc/init.d
[06:15] <ott0> it's like ubuntu has a different startup system or something?
[06:15] <glick> hey how can i tell what version of gtk-gnutella comes with edgy?
[06:16] <poningru> ott0: yes but it is systemv compatible
[06:16] <erstazi> diego_: System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[06:16] <ott0> called upstart?
[06:16] <intelikey> dilch i also know that /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh  affects that.  i have edited it also.  but something is still activating them.
[06:16] <poningru> glick: apt-cache show gtk-gnutella
[06:16] <poningru> or whatever the name of the package is
[06:16] <erstazi> diego_: change the refresh rate there
[06:16] <glick> poningru, im on dapper
[06:16] <starseed> poningru : yah, it is .. I actually have a kubuntu fiesty install on it now, I kind of use it as a test partition
[06:16] <glick> can you check that for me please?
[06:16] <poningru> glick: right
[06:16] <chalmer> ccits still pinging
[06:16] <intelikey> dilch i should mention the version.  dapper.
[06:16] <poningru> glick: uh on feisty
[06:16] <poningru> I'm on feisty
[06:17] <compilerwriter> alonea why?
[06:17] <glick> what is it on feisty?
[06:17] <chalmer> its still pinging
[06:17] <erstazi> diego_: the first two I gave you were to give the min and max, the last is the gnome way of selecting a refresh rate
[06:17] <chalmer> what now?
[06:17] <Alonea> compilerwriter: well, if you really need that file I would try asking them to get it off for you. I honestly dont know how to get linux to see it. Have you tried describing your problem in ##linux? they got my MMC reader working.
[06:17] <poningru> chalmer: stop it using ctrl+c
[06:17] <dilch> intelikey, hmm, i'm thinking, because i've done the same thing in the past and it has worked
[06:17] <poningru> I told you this like a minute ago
[06:17] <erstazi> diego_: I been there before with an odd refresh and it hurts your eyes
[06:17] <compilerwriter> I managed to get the file off the disk, but now I am stuck with the blasted icon on my desktop.
[06:17] <erstazi> slvmchn: how new or old is your mobo?
[06:17] <chalmer> ok now what?
[06:18] <compilerwriter> I will go talk to them.
[06:18] <poningru> glick: 0.96.3
[06:18] <poningru> chalmer: put the output in a pastebin
[06:18] <poningru> !pastebin | chalmer
[06:18] <ubotu> chalmer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:18] <glick> damn thats the version i need
[06:18] <dilch> intelikey, i'm not sure ... i just remember commenting out the getty entries. Sorry
[06:18] <poningru> glick: upgrade to edgy then to feisty
[06:18] <glick> damn there should be an easy way to upgrade single packages in the distro to the latet version without having to upgrade the entire distro
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | glick
[06:18] <ubotu> glick: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:18] <intelikey> dilch i have grep'd all of /etc  looking for what might mention vt or tty [2-6]    i can't find it.     like i said inittab and console.screen.sh  but i have rewritten both.
[06:18] <poningru> glick: backports
[06:19] <glick> poningru, i enabled backports but gtk-gnutella is not in the backports repo unless im doing it wrong
[06:19] <dilch> intelikey, i'd better have a sandwich while i think
[06:19] <billy> i have fairly recently produced mobo and CPU.  How can I be sure Ubuntu is juicing them for all their worth?
[06:19] <intelikey> dilch well thanks
[06:19] <poningru> glick: yeah sorry dude you are out of luck
[06:19] <Madpilot> ubotu, info gtk-gnutella
[06:19] <ubotu> gtk-gnutella: shares files in a peer to peer network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1982 kB, installed size 7016 kB
[06:19] <LOWER_CASE> Hi: can anyone suggest an OCR package with high-percentage recognition for ubuntu?
[06:20] <cantervil> hello, someone uses Nicotine???
[06:20] <glick> damn the edgy one is too old too
[06:20] <ott0> t
[06:20] <poningru> glick: dude ...
[06:20] <poningru> stop cursing in ere please
[06:20] <glick> whose cursing?
[06:21] <poningru> glick: why dont you just upgrade to feisty
[06:21] <Alonea> ok, after installing the binary drivers for my video card my computer will no longer restart or shutdown. It starts to, but just sticks at a black screen.
[06:21] <poningru> glick: go check your last three statements
[06:21] <Hobbsee> Alonea: probably a fault of the binary drivers, then.  might need to remove them.
[06:21] <glick> damn isnt a cuss
[06:21] <shadowman> lol
[06:21] <poningru> glick: please dont do it in here
[06:21] <dilch> please! he's hurting my beautiful eyes with his profanity!
[06:21] <starseed> okay, so if I set the installer to anything but the default partition is choose for "/" it gives me the "no root file system error" .
[06:22] <shadowman> lol thats like mormon crusing
[06:22] <starseed> is = it
[06:22] <Pthag> ..
[06:22] <Pthag> You got on somebody for saying DAMN?
[06:22] <TraceGreen> Hello, how can i get my sata hard disk's serial number? I try to use hdparm -I /dev/sda, but with error: HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed
[06:22] <poningru> ...
[06:22] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, can anyone suggest an OCR (Optical Character Recognition) package with high-percentage recognition for ubuntu?  I got some newspaper articles from 1960's I want to scan to text.
[06:22] <poningru> lets keep this family friendly people
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> Pthag: especially after the third time.  Don't make yourself be included too.
[06:22] <erstazi> Pthag: welcome to freenode
[06:22] <intelikey> i would like to do two things to this box     1. stop whatever it is, from activating tty[2-6]  at boot time.      2. install grub       both of which seem impossable.
[06:22] <Alonea> Hobbsee: umm, no, I NEED my 3d acceleration. I have apps and screensavers that wont work without it. I saw other people had this too, but the acpi=off noacpi thing doesn't work for me
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> LOWER_CASE: You could try tesseract - I'm not sure which versions it's in, and haven't used it myself, but have heard good things.
[06:23] <glick> cant i just install the .deb from feisty?
[06:23] <Hobbsee> Alonea: right.  unfortunately, ubuntu cant fix the binary drivers, so you're kind of stuck, if it's a bug in the binary driver
[06:23] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, should we also kick for typos? ;)
[06:23] <ijmi> Okay, so I finally got my laptop connected to my wireless router. Is there any reason why it's going so slowly? To the tune of peaking out at 15 KB/s?
[06:23] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: tempting.  :P
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> glick: check the deps.  "maybe"
[06:23] <LOWER_CASE> tonyyarusso: ta, I'll check in the package manager...
[06:23] <wastrel> Alonea:  did you follow the howto on the wiki
[06:23] <intelikey> tonyyarusso my man.   long time no  C++   :)
[06:24] <Alonea> well, all I know is that the acpi thing is supposed to fix that little bug (this has onlybeen reported as an ubuntu thing) but it doesn't for me
[06:24] <poningru> intelikey: lol
[06:24] <shadowman> ilmi get etherap and see how amny people are using the network and what there doing
[06:24] <Alonea> wastrel: for my binary drivers? yeeessss. and they nicely.
[06:24] <Alonea> *they work
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: lol.  Works in so many ways - still no C++ for me (although I've starting glancing furtively at a C book I found...)
[06:25] <intelikey> cool.
[06:25] <nooaa> can anyone help me with a perfect web server setup on ubuntu server with ftp and so everything works
[06:25] <pop> I got an error while booting from ubuntu WUBI  -- mounting /proc on /root/proc failed
[06:25] <glick> there should be an easy way to upgrade
[06:25] <glick> thats a problem with linux
[06:25] <dilch> tonyyarusso, get the only C book that matters; "The C Programming Language" Kernighan and Ritchie :)
[06:25] <billy> glick:  also a problem with Microsoft.
[06:25] <erstazi> NOOAA: LAMP and ProFTPD
[06:26] <wastrel> Alonea:  so they work but you can't boot?
[06:26] <intelikey> glick there is.  install clean   same as upgrading M$
[06:26] <tombow> i don't like K&R
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> dilch: Is that the "classic C" one, or did they update for the standards?
[06:26] <tombow> there's a much better C book
[06:26] <glick> im talking about upgrading a single program
[06:26] <ijmi> shadowman: There are three systems on the network. One is downloading a file at 14.2 KB/sec, the second is using IRC, and the third is idling.
[06:26] <dilch> tombow, funny, they speak highly of you ...
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> nooaa: LAMP and vsftpd is what I use.
[06:26] <shadowman> anyone know how to get airsnort with a card that not supported by prism 54. Like can I write my own info for something like that?
[06:26] <tombow> Darnell & Margolis or something
[06:26] <dilch> tonyyarusso, there is an updated one ANSI
[06:26] <Alonea> wastrel: Oh, I can boot my computer fine, but when I goto the little log out, then shutdown or restart, it closes my programs, screen goes black, then it just stays there.
 got lamp installed but there is a problem with the script im trying to install
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> dilch: good to know
[06:27] <eck> all you need to learn C is the man pages
[06:27] <bullgard4> What is meant with 'ath0'? My file /etc/network/interfaces lists the entries 'auto eth0', 'auto ath0' and  'auto wlan0'. Why?
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> nooaa: describe the problem please
[06:27] <erstazi> nooaa: you can msg me if you want
[06:27] <dilch> tombow, yeah, that's another good one
[06:27] <wastrel> Alonea:  ah i get that sometimes.  fglrx?
[06:27] <erstazi> nooaa: then you won't be offtopic
[06:27] <tombow> dilch, but for some reason no one's ever heard of it
[06:27] <dilch> "C: A Software Engineering Approach"
[06:27] <intelikey> bullgard4 trying ot cover whatever networking card you have.
[06:27] <tombow> yea
[06:27] <tombow> that's the one i learned C from
[06:28] <chalmer> does edubuntu support wireless cards?
[06:28] <dilch> tombow, heh, it was one of our required texts, along with K&R
[06:28] <tombow> after K&R put me to sleep
[06:28] <Alonea> wastrel: yup. I have an ATI Xpress 200
[06:28] <tombow> dilch, what college?
[06:28] <intelikey> bullgard4 eth = ethernet card    wlan = wireless nic
[06:28] <chalmer> does edubuntu support wireless cards?
[06:28] <shadowman> chalmer if your wireless ism't supported use ndiswrapper
[06:28] <aldin> chalmer, it supports all cardes that ubuntu supports, AFAIK
[06:28] <dilch> tombow, University of Western Australia ... probably one you aren't familiar with :)
[06:28] <eck> ath0 is also a wireless card
[06:28] <bullgard4> intelikey: I know what interfaces my laptop has. But I do not know what ath0 means in that file.
[06:28] <eck> ath for atheros
[06:29] <tombow> dilch, lol.. yea that's pretty cool; most places don't even teach C any more
[06:29] <tombow> the operating system course at berkeley uses java
[06:29] <dilch> tombow, haha this was a long time ago
[06:29] <tombow> oh
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> chalmer: edubuntu has the same drivers, etc. as Ubuntu
[06:29] <wastrel> Alonea:  well are you sure it's noacpi and not noapic?  (i have no idea, just askin)
[06:29] <eck> tombow: are you a student at berkeley?
[06:29] <chalmer> ok when i install tha card and then boot up . how do i install tha drivers ?
[06:29] <tombow> eck, graduated recently
[06:29] <glick> alot of the CS students at my school only knew java
[06:30] <eck> i'm a junior :-)
[06:30] <tombow> at berkeley?
[06:30] <glick> thats sad
[06:30] <eck> yes
[06:30] <tombow> cool
[06:30] <davascript_home> CS is just school
[06:30] <davascript_home> learn IT on your own
[06:30] <shadowman> download ndiswrapper make sure its not version 1.0 then download a windows driver inf of your card
[06:30] <aldin> chalmer, u do this: type in google ubuntu yourcardname
[06:30] <jhsands> is evolution 2.10 in the update manager for edgy?
[06:30] <dilch> tombow, heh, this was pre-internet, but post usenet and arpanet :)
[06:30] <davascript_home> adept
[06:30] <glick> feisty hasnt been released yet
[06:30] <glick> officially
[06:30] <shadowman> after that open your terminal type ndiswrapper -i yourdriver.inf
[06:30] <eck> jhsands: it is in feisty
[06:30] <eck> or will be, rather
[06:31] <chalmer> when i insert tha disk it just shows a bunch of folders thats on tha cd
[06:31] <shadowman> then iwconfig
[06:31] <bullgard4> eck: I do not have an atheros interface in my computer. Why is it mentioned in my file /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:31] <jhsands> eck: yes I am on feisty :)
[06:31] <aldin> chalmer, perhaps it works out of the box.... if u have centrino...
[06:31] <jhsands> why I was wondering
[06:31] <eck> well it is not in edgy
[06:31] <aldin> chalmer, are u already on ubuntu?
[06:31] <intelikey> jhsands looks like  Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy)
[06:31] <chalmer> y
[06:31] <LOWER_CASE> dilch: fyi, I've renamed myself from real_aussie to LOWER_CASE... (it's a pretty dumb visual pun, but it stands out nicely in the handles listing.)
[06:31] <aldin> chalmer pres alt+F2 and type gnome-terminal
[06:31] <eck> bullgard4: maybe just in case? wired ethernet has standard names (basically always ethX), but wireless comes in a lot of names --- raX, athX, wlanX, ethX, etc.
[06:31] <tombow> but I can't stand the CS majors at berkeley
[06:31] <davascript_home> so deo real_aussie
[06:32] <glick> im not sure if i like kubuntu or hate it
[06:32] <dilch> LOWER_CASE, lol it certainly does. I'm not so rabid today ... no bundy ;)
[06:32] <eck> good, i am a math major, and i can't stand them either :-)
[06:32] <davascript_home> screw it talk to them about iptables and bearing leaf routers they wont know ish
[06:32] <LOWER_CASE> bfn...
[06:32] <tombow> eck: oh you majored in math? so did i (only minor in CS)
[06:32] <tombow> maybe i know you
[06:33] <Dacvak> Ok, I'm officially confused.
[06:33] <bullgard4> eck: Yes, that's an idea.
[06:33] <eck> tombow: well, i am majoring in math
[06:33] <dilch> haha i started majoring in math, but decided i wanted an easier ride :)
[06:33] <poningru> Dacvak: whats wrong?
[06:33] <aldin> chalmer, ? or go to Applications -> Accessories-> Terminal
[06:33] <davascript_home> Dacvak: enter #dv8n11
[06:33] <SKATO101> hey
[06:33] <Dacvak> Is there any way I can make it so a keycode can perform some sort of function?
[06:34] <jhsands> anyone know how to save the packages you have selected in synaptics so you can put it in a new install?
[06:34] <SKATO101> who plays NetBattle?
[06:34] <Dacvak> My bottom 3 mouse buttons are keycodes as opposed to button presses, and I just want to figure out if I can make them function.
[06:34] <chalmer> Could not open location 'file:///gnome terminal'
[06:34] <dilch> ah .. i really miss the VAX
[06:34] <davascript_home> Dacvak: enter #dv8n11
[06:34] <tombow> yea but over all college was a waste of time for me
[06:34] <SKATO101> does any one play netbattle?
[06:34] <davascript_home> word
[06:34] <cantervil> how does it fell feisty fawn???
[06:34] <chalmer> ok
[06:34] <davascript_home> Dacvak: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-526119-highlight-intellimouse.html
[06:34] <aldin> chalmer, pressing ALT+F2 keys.... u get run window
[06:34] <arooni> hey folks.... if i have asterisk 1.2 ... installed on my ubuntu... and i want to install 1.4 ... should i first uninstall 1.2?
[06:34] <chalmer> y
[06:34] <shadowman> anyone screw with beryl?
[06:34] <Dacvak> Actually
[06:34] <davascript_home> read how it works and adapt it to your mouse
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> cantervil: feisty chat is in #ubuntu+1
[06:35] <aldin> chalmer that is terminal now type iwconfig
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> arooni: nope.
[06:35] <chalmer> iwconfig
[06:35] <Dacvak> I sort of figured it out... They'll map to regular Keyboard Shortcuts. Is there any way to add to those Keyboard Shortcuts, to include a "Back" and "Forward" function?
[06:35] <chalmer> sorry
[06:35] <shadowman> oh
[06:35] <shadowman> oh
[06:35] <chalmer> wrong window
[06:35] <davascript_home> iwlist eth1 scanning for those that know
[06:35] <chasmarang> hi people
[06:35] <shadowman> this has been bugging the hell out of me
[06:35] <SKATO101> hi
[06:35] <eck> dilch: if you could go back and use one i bet you wouldn't miss it anymore
[06:35] <Madpilot> chalmer, this is not your terminal window :)
[06:35] <aldin> chasmarang hi
[06:35] <SKATO101> hi hi
[06:36] <chalmer> lol
[06:36] <arooni> tonyyarusso: so i can just overwrite the pervoisu version?
[06:36] <SKATO101> lol
[06:36] <chalmer> ok now what?
[06:36] <shadowman> does anyone know how to set a launcher so that it opens the file in root?
[06:36] <chasmarang> can I ask a question
[06:36] <SKATO101> eating
[06:36] <aldin> chalmer ? what is going now
[06:36] <intelikey> Dacvak in the console loadkeys    in the gui set up a hotkey.
[06:36] <aldin> chalemr what iwconfig says
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> arooni: yep.
[06:36] <SKATO101> who are the admins?
[06:36] <shadowman> anyone?
[06:36] <intelikey> sorry that was late.
[06:36] <davascript_home> Dacvak: the kb shortcuts your thinkin of dont actually understansd back and forward it will look more like {F
[06:36] <aldin> chalmer command is "iwconfig"
[06:36] <davascript_home> well [F
[06:36] <chalmer> chalmer@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig
[06:36] <chalmer> lo        no wireless extensions.
[06:36] <chalmer> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[06:36] <chalmer> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[06:36] <chalmer> chalmer@ubuntu:~$
[06:36] <Dacvak> intelikey, Where's that?
[06:36] <dilch> eck, haha, not really, it's kinda the same .. i mostly only use console anyway :)
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> arooni: Well, check the release notes in case something's really screwy, but normally you just install packages on top of each other.
[06:36] <intelikey> Dacvak which ?
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> !paste | chalmer
[06:36] <ubotu> chalmer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:37] <Dacvak> intelikey, Console loadkeys?
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> SKATO101: for?
[06:37] <aldin> chalmer go to and paste ur clipboard here pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:37] <arooni> tonyyarusso: so should i be looking for a .deb package (instead of intsalling it from source)
[06:37] <chasmarang> If I have dapper on a drive slave to my cdrom is there a way to boot to dapper
[06:37] <aldin> chalmer and sen us a link ok?
[06:37] <chalmer> k
[06:37] <chasmarang> *slaved
[06:37] <billy> chasmarang:  check the setting in your BIOS.
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> arooni: Yeah, if possible.
[06:38] <arooni> tonyyarusso: do you know where i'd find the .deb file/
[06:38] <ott0> so if i want to run a program during startup before x starts... should I put it in /etc/event.d somewhere?
[06:38] <jhsands> anyone know how to save the packages you have selected in synaptics so you can put it in a new install?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> arooni: you can build your own .deb from the source and then install taht too.
[06:38] <chasmarang> and what will I learn
[06:38] <ijmi> I had Vista installed on a partition and working just fine, and then I ran gparted -- it said it couldn't read my Vista partition, that it was all messed up. I didn't do anything to change the partition table whatsoever. Why can't Ubuntu read that partition?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> arooni: Check the asterisk site first.  Who knows.
[06:38] <intelikey> Dacvak a command like         echo 'keycode 125 = Decr_Console' | loadkeys     will set the left windows key to switch one console down.     and echo 'keycode 126 = Incr_Console' | loadkeys    the right winkey one console up    you can use that as a starting point    but i'm not convinced you are talking about the console...
[06:38] <aldin> chalmer 2nd command u should to to find out what is ur card is "lspci", from now on i will ut commands like this in quotas "command" OK?
[06:38] <davascript_home> ijmi: vista use diskimage instead f a FS
[06:38] <billy> chasmarang:  there will be boot options in your BIOS.  be sure that booting from your second CD/DVD-ROM drive is enabled.
[06:39] <aldin> chalmer so type "lspci" and al it comes send on pastebin link i gave u ok?
[06:39] <ijmi> davascript_home: Is there any way to read my Vista files with Ubuntu?
[06:39] <dilch> ott0, you can use sysv-rc-conf and update-rc.d for that
[06:39] <chasmarang> it's my first cd rom that the other drive is slave tp
[06:39] <intelikey> Dacvak if you are in gnome.  then ignore all that.  you don't want console commands.  you want to edit the gnome hot keys.
[06:39] <davascript_home> intelikey: he need s to use xev to find out the keycodes
[06:39] <chalmer> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10727/
[06:39] <davascript_home> no ijmi
[06:39] <chasmarang> *to
[06:40] <intelikey> davascript_home or showkeys
[06:40] <davascript_home> mv your files to ntfs partition and then read\
[06:40] <aldin> chalmer now paste "lspci" command
[06:40] <Dacvak> intelikey, Well, my keycodes are keycode 182, 183, and 184. I want them to function as Back and Forward (then something else for the other one.) That's Back and Forward in a browser, like Firefox.
[06:40] <zen> Anyone just happen to know where firefox stores passwords?
[06:40] <davascript_home> true intelikey
[06:40] <billy> chasmarang:  do you not have the option of booting from your slave drive in your BIOS?
[06:40] <eck> davascript_home: no, mostly in gnome you can just hit the key, or else type the name of it
[06:40] <aldin> chalmer lspci lists ur pcidevices...
[06:40] <eck> you do not need the key code
[06:41] <davascript_home> it isnt gnome its xev
[06:41] <Dacvak> intelikey, I am in Gnome
[06:41] <chalmer> past that n tha terminal?
[06:41] <chasmarang> no
[06:41] <davascript_home> ran from the terminal
[06:41] <ijmi> davascript_home: But I'd have to do that in Vista then, am I right?
[06:41] <aldin> chalmer, something like this http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10728/
[06:41] <intelikey> Dacvak in gnome. yes  you want xkb or something like that.  i'm not sure.  someone else can jump in...
[06:41] <chalmer> yea thats it
[06:41] <davascript_home> i dont use windows but you should be able to write to a ntfs part in vista
[06:42] <chasmarang> thats why I was hoping I could write something in my grub menu.lst
[06:42] <billy> chasmarang:  if you don't have the option in your BIOS, I don't think you can boot from it then.  I could be wrong though.  90% sure, though.
[06:42] <intelikey> Dacvak i have gnome installed and actually looked at it once....
[06:42] <ijmi> davascript_home: As in I can't do it in Ubuntu I meant.
[06:42] <Dacvak> Ah
[06:42] <davascript_home> no u cant
[06:42] <billy> chasmarang:  the actual devices that you may boot from are separate from menu.lst
[06:42] <chalmer> ok i typed that in now what
[06:42] <Dacvak> Ok, let's say this is the case....
[06:42] <davascript_home> ntfs stil isnt fully supported
[06:43] <Dacvak> I want F12 to be used as the Back function.
[06:43] <Dacvak> Any way to do that?
[06:43] <davascript_home> but jfs and reiserfs work better
[06:43] <chalmer> u need me to past that at that site
[06:43] <aldin> chalmer commands are typed in terminal, echos are pasted on pastebin so u dont flood here on irc ok, chalmer send it here to see name f ur card so we could googleit...
[06:43] <eck> davascript_home: just use F12 as the name of the key
[06:43] <eck> oops
[06:43] <eck> to Dacvak
[06:43] <davascript_home> i knew
[06:43] <chasmarang> oh! I have winXP and Edgy Eft is the grub that comes up first when I start my computer
[06:43] <TraceGreen> Hello, can anybody help me? how can i get serial number for sata harddisk?
[06:43] <davascript_home> ubunut is fun but i like compiling more
[06:43] <dilch> davascript_home, the ntfs-g drivers seem to be stable and working correctly now
[06:44] <intelikey> Dacvak i'll start gnome and look around.  but i promise you nothing.
[06:44] <davascript_home> yeas but you can still screww your drive
[06:44] <aldin> chalmer, u see, mine is this 02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:44] <billy> chasmarang:  no.  grub isn't first.  first is the boot device as per your BIOS settings.
[06:44] <dilch> davascript_home, not in my extensive testing ... there used to be real problems, but so far, so good
[06:44] <chasmarang> I see
[06:44] <davascript_home> i dont have to use it so i am ok   windows can understand ext2 and ext3 do who cares about ntfs
[06:45] <chasmarang> thanx billy
[06:45] <billy> chasmarang:  that's why if you have a nonsystem floppy in your floppy drive, your computer won't boot.
[06:45] <billy> chasmarang:  your welcome.  I hope I've been a little help.
[06:45] <intelikey> Dacvak system.menu > preferances > keyboard shortcuts
[06:45] <davascript_home> and ther is eve a reiserfs driver for windows
[06:45] <chasmarang> yes you always are
[06:45] <shadowman> I'm friggin bored
[06:45] <chalmer> Blitzz super G wireless pci adapter model:BWI 715
[06:45] <davascript_home> so go drink beeer
[06:45] <billy> thanks chasmarang.
[06:45] <chasmarang> let me talk to your boss about a raise
[06:45] <shadowman> I'm at work
[06:46] <billy> chasmarang:  that's not possible.  I'm already paid all that I can be paid.
[06:46] <chasmarang> ;-) take care
[06:46] <eck> billy: you can give the raise to me :-)
[06:46] <Dacvak> I accidentally closed the chat. Did someone have some solution for me?
[06:46] <billy> eck:  no.  sorry.  You'll have to talk to the bossman for that, but ....
[06:46] <chalmer> Blitzz super G wireless pci adapter model:BWI 715
[06:46] <aldin> chalmer: ?
[06:46] <chalmer> y
[06:47] <gloria_estephan> hello, i am looking for the help session
[06:47] <aldin> chalmer type lspci n show us results
[06:47] <X86echo> lol
[06:47] <gloria_estephan> thank you,
[06:47] <aldin> chalmer: results post on pastebin...
[06:47] <X86echo> hello everyone
[06:47] <Dacvak> Is there any way to map F12 to perform the function of Close, or Back, or Forward, or anything like that?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> gloria_estephan: You found it - just ask your question; if someone knows, they'll answer, if not, be patient.
[06:47] <billy> howdy x86echo.  How can we help?
[06:47] <toulouse> hey guys, i just installed a package that had all the stuff for the xfce desktop enviroment, but now i dont know how to start up xfce
[06:48] <toulouse> i guess i need to add a session
[06:48] <Dacvak> Or is there any way to add actions to the Keyboard Shortcuts?
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> toulouse: Log out, on the GDM screen go to options > sessions, chose xfce, and log in.
[06:48] <billy> toulouse:  ctrl-alt-backspace. then select in sessions.
[06:48] <eck> Dacvak: some of those need to be set on a per-application basis
[06:48] <aldin> chalmer: ?
[06:48] <gloria_estephan> sorry to bother, i will come back later then
[06:48] <toulouse> tonyyarusso: but there is no xfce session available
[06:48] <glick> has anyone here tried kubuntu
[06:48] <eck> Dacvak: there is only so much the WM can control
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> Dacvak: Not that I know of, sadly.
[06:48] <glick> i only did once a year ago and i didnt like it, i found it unstable
[06:48] <Dacvak> eck, Well, is there a way to do that?
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> toulouse: sounds like a bug in the package then.... did you use xubuntu-desktop?  I suppose xfce4 might not include it.  Yeah, you'll need to add it then.
[06:49] <billy> toulouse:  did you `sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop` ?
[06:49] <eck> Dacvak: most of them are in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts, there are a few other ones that can be set with gconf-editor
[06:49] <chalmer> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10730/       here it is aldin
[06:49] <eck> otherwise you need to read the documentation for the program you are using and see if it has configurable keybindings
[06:49] <Dacvak> Isn't there a way to, like, set up a macro or something so that F12 performs some complicated keyboard function or something?
[06:49] <toulouse> guys: i used xfce4
[06:49] <toulouse> is that wrong?
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> glick: Try that one in #ubuntu-offtopic , would be more appropriate sort of chat for there.
[06:49] <eck> Dacvak: not in gnome
[06:49] <jrandolph> when i press ctrl+alt+f1 i get the ubuntu loading screen, and then it freezes
[06:50] <Dacvak> eck, How do I edit gconf-editor?
[06:50] <X86echo> Iam enjoying  Gnome for a change billy all the other distro's I aways use KDE but this one I find  ubuntu is running just fine just passed my bed time up late tonight or morning
[06:50] <eck> just run it, it is a program
[06:50] <aldin> chalmer: i cant see any of wireles device here, is it on usb or pci
[06:50] <dilch> toulouse, you can create a file .xinitrc in your home directory with "exec startxfce4" in it
[06:50] <dilch> toulouse, see if that works
[06:50] <toulouse> dilch: how about i just get xubuntu desktop ?
[06:50] <toulouse> will that fix it?
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> toulouse: Depends what you wanted to do.  It's a valid way to get xfce4, but usually not the most convenient.
[06:51] <billy> X86echo:  I too like Gnome.  I also like KDE.  ARe you wanting to install KDE?
[06:51] <dilch> toulouse, or even just try startxfce4 from the console
[06:51] <chalmer> will tha drivers for it work n ubuntu?
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> toulouse: You could install xubuntu-desktop now, get a few extra apps and fix your session problem at the same time
[06:51] <toulouse> i didnt know what to do, so i found xfce4, didnt see xubuntu desktop
[06:51] <chalmer> i got tha driver cd that came w/ it
[06:51] <toulouse> i'll try xubuntu desktop
[06:51] <jrandolph> is it just me, or are ATI cards horrible with ubuntu?
[06:52] <dilch> toulouse, well either way, you can create a xinitrc file to exec it
[06:52] <billy> toulouse:  that's probably the easiest try to fix.  )
[06:52] <eck> jrandolph: they're horrible with everything (linux related, anyway)
[06:52] <eck> nvidia too :-(
[06:52] <toulouse> billy: which one is easiest? the xinitrc file?
[06:52] <X86echo> I did and it turned into a nightmare xubuntu was not bad in KDE I had a lot of errors apt manger
[06:52] <jrandolph> really? do any graphics cards have a good track record with ubuntU/
[06:52] <eck> jrandolph: intel graphics
[06:52] <toulouse> i already installed xfce4
[06:53] <billy> toulouse:  getting xubuntu-desktop.  in a terminal, ` sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop `.
[06:53] <aldin> chalmer, u have wireless card right? and u want to install it right? can u tell me is it connected on USB, or in PCI (in computer)
[06:53] <dilch> billy, as easy as "echo "exec startxfce4" > $HOME/.xinitrc" ? ;)
[06:53] <eck> the intel graphics drivers are open source (and developed and maintainted by intel)
[06:53] <eck> most of the Xorg developers use them
[06:53] <toulouse> billy: ok, i did it in synaptic, but same thing
[06:53] <shadowman> ati works fine with ubuntu
[06:53] <arfy> Hi all. In the user's guide, it says to mount windows partitions, go to system -> administration -> disk manager. However, I can't see it in there. Where abouts can disk manager be found under edgi?
[06:53] <chalmer> neither yet.
[06:53] <kuzmaster> heya
[06:53] <chalmer> but it will b pci
[06:53] <jrandolph> shadowman is it easy to get the two to play together?
[06:54] <toulouse> jrandolph: i have no problem with nvidia so far
[06:54] <shadowman> I had it running one my desktop with a x1300 worked the balls
[06:54] <billy> toulouse:  just try that out.  trust me.  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.
[06:54] <kuzmaster> !gnome
[06:54] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:54] <kuzmaster> !theme
[06:54] <shadowman> ya you can apt-get the ati driver info
[06:54] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:54] <toulouse> billy: that's what ima do, if that doesnt work, then i'll start tearing up files like the other guy suggested
[06:54] <shadowman> i did that than ran beryl on my desktop and it worked fine
[06:54] <aldin> chalmer, ok, so u are preparing to get one right?
[06:54] <toulouse> beryl be tight!
[06:54] <jrandolph> i've tried a bunch of different methods of getting the ati drivers working, and each one seems to end up with fglrxinfo returning info about mesa3d
[06:54] <shadowman> i also play WoW with wine
[06:55] <billy> toulouse:  dilch's recommendation is fairly simple.  Trust your own judgement.
[06:55] <jrandolph> shadow, what processor and card do you have?
[06:55] <toulouse> ooh my hard drive doesnt sound like it used to?
[06:55] <aldin> chalmer, could u type my name before text so i can notice u easier ok?
[06:55] <chalmer> i guess im gonna have to d/l xchat for windows so that when a problem acures i can still talk to u
[06:55] <arfy> wow, is wine advanced enough to play Wow now?
[06:55] <arfy> that's impressive
[06:55] <shadowman> on that computer i don't rember I'm using my laptop right now
[06:55] <toulouse> whoa, wine wouldnt play halo demo last time i tried
[06:55] <chalmer> aldin:i guess im gonna have to d/l xchat for windows so that when a problem acures i can still talk to u
[06:55] <toulouse> well, ima try and get into xfce, brb
[06:56] <shadowman> i got WoW running with regualr wine by mounting my windows partion
[06:56] <shadowman> i still ahve some sound issues though
[06:56] <aldin> chalmer: what is "d/l "
[06:56] <chalmer> download
[06:56] <aldin> chalmer: ok
[06:56] <chalmer> brb
[06:57] <toulouse> yay, xfce works
[06:57] <toulouse> very nice interface
[06:57] <shadowman> anyone know why i can view wmv with totem-xine but when I try to watch them while like downloading live i get a black screen?
[06:57] <toulouse> dont know why it's not as popular as gnome or kde
[06:57] <billy> toulouse:  that's good to hear.  I've never used xfce.  How is it different from Gnome?
[06:57] <intelikey> Dacvak well the settings will be in  ~/.gconf/apps/metacity/*keybindings/*.xml   but i have no idea what all one can and can't do in there.     sorry i can't help you any further on that.
[06:58] <carlosA> Hola
[06:58] <billy> Hello carlosA.  Is Spanish your native language?
[06:58] <toulouse> xfce is supposed to be lighter weight, but the most pretty example has to be dreamlinux
[06:58] <dilch> billy, much lighter
[06:58] <aldin> chalmer: look, when u put ur pci card in comp, next u boot to ubuntu, then see if it works already with "iwconfig" command, that command shows ur wireles interfaces, if it doesnt work u try "lspci" and it will list ur devices so from that u can find out exact wireless data
[06:58] <intelikey> i have no doubt that it is possable to edit the .xml files and set things the way you want.  just don't know how.
[06:58] <toulouse> billy: google dream linux
[06:58] <toulouse> it's pretty nice
[06:58] <toulouse> comes with all codecs and such
[06:58] <carlosA> si es espaol
[06:59] <dilch> i don't use linux for "pretty" ...
[06:59] <billy> dilch:  "lighter" is a reference to memory usage, right?
[06:59] <dilch> billy, yes, and general resource use. The speed difference is noticable
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> !es | carlosA
[06:59] <ubotu> carlosA: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:59] <toulouse> ok, on to next problem: i made some partitions, but now when i start up, my computer has a file system check error
[06:59] <whta> since the vim channel is dead, can anyone help me out with some basic syntax highlighting? ;o
[06:59] <kuzmaster> !dvd
[06:59] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:59] <X86echo> toulouse don't it change the loggin screen ect...
[06:59] <kuzmaster> !mp3
[06:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:59] <carlosA> gracias
[06:59] <eck> whta: have you tried :help ?
[07:00] <toulouse> i think i need to somehow clean off the partitions through the terminal, but i dont know how
[07:00] <toulouse> i used gparted to make them
[07:00] <intelikey> billy generally no.  lighter is normally a referance to the total install size of a thing.   but on occation used in referance to the ram footprint.
[07:00] <eck> toulouse: what exactly do you want to do?
[07:00] <toulouse> well, my new partitions mess up the file system check
[07:00] <eck> toulouse: and you want to recreate the FS?
[07:01] <toulouse> im not sure
[07:01] <billy> intelikey:  thank you for the info.  perhaps I'll try xubuntu-desktop to give it a try.
[07:01] <toulouse> someone mentioned they needed to be wiped off or something like that
[07:01] <intelikey> imo linux is not very "heavy" when you talk about ram.  with default gnome running as we speek.  Mem usage: 51/249 MB (20%)
[07:01] <eck> toulouse: if you do (it will wipe the contents of your partition) you can use mkfs.ext3 (or whatever filesystem you want to use)
[07:02] <tombow> i have ratpoison running and it's using 400
[07:02] <blind> What can I use to convert mp4's to mp3's?
[07:02] <dilch> intelikey, if you use xfce4 you will see a difference
[07:02] <buddha> how do i get rid of a not responding app
[07:02] <buddha> i tried kill
[07:02] <dilch> of course, if you want a real difference, use fluxbox :)
[07:02] <intelikey> dilch i have used it.
[07:02] <eck> intelikey: agreed
[07:02] <blind> and don't just say "mencoder" tell me what commands to use.
[07:02] <blind> dilch: fluxbox = <3
[07:02] <dilch> blind, :)
[07:02] <toulouse> eck: well, im not sure if that's what im trying to do, i want to try another linux on that partition
[07:02] <intelikey> dilch of kde xfce gnome and blackbox/fluxbox  gnome uses the most ram.
[07:02] <blind> kde
[07:03] <dilch> intelikey, lol, ns
[07:03] <toulouse> but when i make the partition, i fails the file system check on boot up
[07:03] <toulouse> change "i " to "it"
[07:03] <eck> toulouse: well i am not really sure what you are trying to do -- you want to delete the partition and recreate it with another filesytem? then use mkfs. do you want to install another linux? if so, in that installer they will just run the mkfs command anyway
[07:03] <toulouse> ok
[07:03] <toulouse> i'll try that
[07:04] <toulouse> thanks:)
[07:04] <billy> buddha:  have you tried stopping the process in the System Monitor?
[07:05] <intelikey> logged out gnome and logged in kde  now   Mem usage: 45/249 MB (18%)
[07:05] <billy> intelikey:  how are you checking your mem usage?
[07:05] <eck> the DE you use doesn't have as much to do with the memory footprint as you would think. you're probably going to be loading up applications from at least one of gnome/kde which will load pretty much all of the libraries for that DE, and X11 will suck up a lot of ram no matter what WM you use
[07:06] <kuzmaster> ... is there an switch for apt-get to download all of the recomended packages?
[07:06] <eck> kuzmaster: you can do it with aptitude
[07:06] <eck> i don't think you can do it with apt-get
[07:06] <kuzmaster> ...
[07:06] <kuzmaster> thanx anyway
[07:06] <intelikey> billy a script that does... mem=(`cat /proc/meminfo | tr -d "[A-z]  :" | tr "\n" " " | cut -d' ' -f-4`) ;memused="$((( ${mem[0] } - ${mem[1] } - ${mem[2] } - ${mem[3] } ) / 1024))" ;memtotal="$(( ${mem[0] } / 1024))" ;memper="$((( $memused * 100 ) / $memtotal ))" ;echo "Mem usage: $memused/$memtotal MB ($memper%)"
[07:06] <blind> eck: Xorg doesn't take much ram for me, on fluxbox.
[07:07] <blind> er, wait, that's cpu.
[07:07] <billy> Wow.  According to my system monitor, I'm using 348MB of 1003.1MB.
[07:07] <eck> intelikey: no free -m ?
[07:07] <SirML> asdasd
[07:07] <intelikey> billy but you can use  free -m    and look at the third line
[07:07] <Joshooa> Can someone help me add programs to my start up
[07:07] <Joshooa> I know about the sessions thing, but I don't know what file to select
[07:07] <intelikey> eck why use that when you have writen a script for the accurate count ???
[07:07] <tombow> rightclick muthafucka!! can you click it?
[07:08] <eck> why would you write a script when you have a program that alreayd does it?
[07:08] <intelikey> the output.
[07:08] <eck> anyway, all you need to do is subtract cached/buffered from the memory used in whatever you see in /proc/meminfo
[07:08] <billy> intelikey:  yep.  352MB.  Humongaloid.
[07:09] <bruenig> eck, writing scripts is run
[07:09] <bruenig> s/run/fun/
[07:09] <intelikey> billy yeah probably including cache and buffered ram
[07:09] <billy> how can I make sure my swap is activated, intelikey.  just want to make sure.
[07:09] <eck> bruenig: yes, but this one isn't a very good one
[07:09] <tombow> intelikey, Mem usage: -109/500 MB (-21%)
[07:09] <bruenig> eck, if it works, it is good
[07:09] <bruenig> negative
[07:09] <bruenig> hmmm ok maybe you have a point
[07:09] <blind> intelikey: that script doesn't work for me
[07:10] <blind> -bash: ( MemTotal: -  -  -  ) / 1024: missing `)' (error token is ": -  -  -  ) / 1024")
[07:10] <billy> intelikey:  swap won't be used unless there's some spillover right?
[07:10] <intelikey> billy normally
[07:10] <ivan_> hello
[07:10] <intelikey> billy but swappiness can be adjusted.
[07:11] <blind> What can I use to convert mp4's to mp3's? and please don't just say "mencoder" tell me what commands to use.
[07:11] <bruenig> blind, man mencoder is a good command to start
[07:11] <billy> intelikey:  ok thanks.  it read zero used.  just making sure.  will increasing swappiness make stuff faster?  at times there is a little freeze.  I'm satisfied, really, but if I can make it faster, then, hey, why not?  :)
[07:12] <stiv2k> can someone help me figue out what this means?  configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub
[07:12] <billy> hello ivan_.
[07:12] <eck> billy: the freezing you see sometimes has more to do with the preemption model than anything else
[07:12] <ivan_> hello billy
[07:13] <Kai-laptop> im using tar and --exclude=/path but it doesnt exclude /path , what am i doing wrong?
[07:13] <bruenig> stickyicky, in that directory, there is a file called config.sub that is run the ./configure script but the ./configure script can't run it for some reason
[07:13] <billy> eck:  that's a kernel attribute, right?
[07:13] <bruenig> run by the*
[07:13] <eck> billy: there are a couple (well, i think three) preemption models in the kernel, the one in the desktop system is the one that gives the lowest latency, so you can't change that
[07:13] <intelikey> billy it can.   but it can also 'just move the hesitation to another point'  so i don't really recommend changing it.
[07:14] <eck> mucking with swapiness won't really help you that much, if it did it would be set to something different by default
[07:14] <bruenig> Kai-laptop, put the whole command
[07:14] <eck> desktop systems are pretty well tuned (servers are a different matter)
[07:14] <bruenig> s/put/paste/
[07:15] <billy> eck:  i see.  thanks for the info.  I wonder if Ubuntu is juicing my system is all it's worth sometimes, being such recently produced motherboard and processor.
[07:15] <wilo> sexy: http://www.beryl-project.org/features.php
[07:15] <stiv2k> can someone help me figue out what this means?  configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub
[07:15] <bruenig> stickyicky, I just told you
[07:15] <eck> billy: that doesn't have much to do with the efficiency of the scheduling in the kernel
[07:15] <bruenig> stiv2k, oh sorry, tab complete is failing me
[07:15] <bruenig> stiv2k, in that directory, there is a file called config.sub that is run the ./configure script but the ./configure script can't run it for some reason
[07:16] <wilo> stiv2k: open new server and channel, irc.freenode.org and move to #ubuntu
[07:16] <bruenig> run by the*
[07:16] <stiv2k> wilo: i'm in #ubuntu already
[07:16] <Plamo> Quick question: Does anyone have A guide that adresses the problems with installing ubuntu with an ATI X800 series graphics card? I'm having a hard time finding anything.
[07:16] <intelikey> billy probably not.  but some times stability is better than speed.  so it's like the bot says !worksforme
[07:16] <billy> eck:  usually faster for newer kernels?
[07:16] <billy> !worksforme
[07:16] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:17] <eck> billy: the scheduling model has not changed recently
[07:17] <stiv2k> bruenig: config.sub has sufficient permissions to be read and executed it looks
[07:17] <bruenig> stiv2k, perhaps that script is messed up
[07:17] <stiv2k> dammit man
[07:17] <Kai-laptop> bruenig, theres no need.... im taring a folder and need to exclude a folder within it, and the only part thats not working is the --exclude=/path
[07:17] <stiv2k> a lot of other people in the thread that i found the script from reported it working fine though..
[07:18] <bruenig> Kai-laptop, well --exclude=/path does work, so I assume that you are messing up somewhere else
[07:18] <ramza4> anybody know if the ati radeon line works with ubuntu so far, it looks like it doesnt run; it gets detected (ie: dpkg-reconfigured xserver-xorg) but I get errors and get thrown back to console
[07:18] <bruenig> you can rename the folder if it is pr0n or something, but just give me the crux of the command
[07:18] <intelikey> Kai-laptop normal workaround would be simply move the subdir out of the path until tar runs and put it back...
[07:18] <Kai-laptop> well if i do tar -cvf blah.tar --eclude=/home/kai/Desktop ./*   it still tars the desktop folder
[07:18] <eck> billy: i think the last change in the kernel that was really impactful to desktop systems (drivers aside) was the change to udev, which was somet time ago now
[07:19] <intelikey> --eclude
[07:19] <Kai-laptop> intelikey, not possible in the actual case
[07:19] <billy> intelikey:  perhaps I was just expecting too much from the hardware that I recently purchased.
[07:19] <jrandolph> so when i press Ctrl+Alt+F1 ubuntu locks up... this is a completely fresh install of ubuntu, so i have no idea why this would be happening
[07:19] <Kai-laptop> intelikey, i retyped that, exclude is in the actual line
[07:19] <stiv2k> bruenig: it seems config.sub is a symbolic link
[07:19] <Kai-laptop> bruenig, that exclude typo isnt in the actual line
[07:19] <bruenig> stiv2k, file config.sub
[07:19] <bruenig> Kai-laptop, yeah I figured
[07:20] <bruenig> Kai-laptop, well that should work then certainly
[07:20] <Kai-laptop> bruenig, yea but on two systems with differnt paths being tar'd it doesnt exclude
[07:20] <intelikey> Kai-laptop i would make sure it's not a typo.   --exclude=  and tab complete the path.
[07:21] <intelikey> but i typo more than the avarage bear
[07:21] <bruenig> Kai-laptop, you could as someone else said mv the Desktop folder out for a second, but that doesn't explain why it fails
[07:21] <ramza4> ati xl rage pro?
[07:22] <bruenig> I would also just do ./ not ./* but I doubt that is the problem
[07:22] <rogue780|laptop> finally! wireless working! praise be to feisty
[07:22] <Kai-laptop> bruenig, thats just the example im using where its still not working.
[07:22] <Kai-laptop> bruenig, in the real situation thats not possible.
[07:22] <pdxkid> hi all - can anyone hook me up with a module (a320raid) for an adaptec 29320 HostRAID enabled card?
[07:22] <Plamo> Ramza, who are you adressing?
[07:22] <Plamo> addressing, pardon my speeling skills.
[07:22] <pdxkid> adaptec stinks and only provides modules for the SCSI card - no host RAID
[07:23] <ramza4> Plamo, anyone, trying to ask if ati radeon rage pro xl is supported
[07:23] <Kai-laptop> intelikey, tab does not autocomplete in this case, at all.
[07:23] <pdxkid> the hostRAId part is proprietary..
[07:23] <billy> eck:  oh.  I was thinking of the possibility of Feisty running faster, perhaps.  Honestly, though, I've worked hard getting Edgy all nice and functional, so I should hold off on Feisty, I think.
[07:24] <tallman> good morning
[07:24] <billy> Mornin tallman.
[07:24] <Geadin> ah crap it's morning.
[07:24] <eck> billy: it might run faster, not from changes in the kernel though
[07:24] <billy> eck:  ooooooh.  don't tell me that!  :D
[07:25] <tallman> billy, you're also from europe?
[07:25] <eck> there's a good chance that the applications have been improved in the meantime though :-)
[07:25] <billy> tallmen:  no.  I hail from Sirius Prime.
[07:25] <pdxkid> i have tackled google pretty hard - it seems the only way to get the module is install and old version of RH ... maybe someone out there has this module already?
[07:25] <tombow> is there a magical command I can run to fix a broken software index? the network went down yesterday when I was upgrading dapper to edgy. apt-get install -f isn't working
[07:25] <hayden_> how can i mount a disk image to a directory?
[07:25] <intelikey> confirmed --exclude=   is broken.
[07:26] <billy> eck:  I guess I could always put it on another partition and check it out.  :)
[07:26] <intelikey> someone file a bug on tar
[07:26] <mirra> hey everyone
[07:26] <tallman> hayden_, what is the image?
[07:26] <billy> Hi mirra.
[07:26] <mirra> i got a few simple questions - is it alright if I ask?
[07:26] <l90bpm> hello
[07:26] <tallman> hey mirra
[07:26] <mirra> my first time here
[07:26] <billy> Mirra: of course.  What can we help you with?
[07:26] <l90bpm> my third..
[07:26] <l90bpm> maybe 4th
[07:27] <mirra> well first off, what exactly do I have to add in iptables to allow name servers to resolve?
[07:27] <Plamo> Okay, when booting from the live CD, I get to the point with the orange-ish loading bar, and then Ubuntu freezes, or something, it stops at about 95% of the bar full. Anyone know whats going on?
[07:27] <tallman> billy, Sirius Prime ? USA?
[07:27] <mirra> i tried just allowing all traffic from my name servers but they change..and that doesnt even work now...
[07:27] <tallman> !resolve
[07:27] <bullgard4> hayden_: You can only mount a file system
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <eck> intelikey: it works for me
[07:28] <eck> are you sure you're using it correctly?
[07:28] <hayden_> bullgard4, can't mount an iso created from a cd?
[07:28] <Plamo> !worksforme
[07:28] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:28] <Plamo> :D
[07:28] <intelikey> eck on dapper it is broken.
[07:28] <mirra> does anyone else know about name servers and iptables that can help?
[07:28] <tallman> hayden_, you can
[07:28] <intelikey> i have ran about 8 tests now and they all fail.
[07:28] <tallman> man mount
[07:28] <bullgard4> hayden_: if it is a file. Then yes, otherwise no.
[07:29] <l90bpm> I installed from 6.06..  updated.. seems fine thus far
[07:29] <intelikey> changing syntax and order of options.   it will NOT exclude a /dir/ or /path/*
[07:29] <hayden_> bullgard4, tallman well how do i mount that file
[07:30] <mirra> anyone here good with apache2 ? have two simple questions..
[07:30] <tallman> !man | hayden_
[07:30] <ubotu> hayden_: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:30] <bullgard4> hayden_: read first 'man mount'. Then put a more detailed question here.
[07:30] <billy> tallman:  Follow the imaginary line created by Orion's Belt to the left, the brightest star in Canis Major.
[07:30] <Plamo> 666 threads in News and Announcements.
[07:31] <tallman> billy, you alien, or sth ?)))
[07:31] <mirra> how can I use htaccess to redirect all traffic within a specific directory to a certain page
[07:31] <mirra> example..someone goes to myurl.com/certaindirectory/thing.php and they get redirected to .../certaindirectory/index.php
[07:32] <tallman> mirra, if I knew that I would be here =)
[07:32] <billy> tallman:  I've lived on earth all my life, but I know I'm from Sirius Prime.  The voices confirm this daily.  8D
[07:32] <mirra> what?
[07:32] <eck> mirra: you need a Redirect
[07:32] <eck> look at the apache docs
[07:33] <mirra> i know..i couldn't figure it out
[07:33] <eck> there are different kinds of them, so you need to figure out which one you want
[07:33] <mirra> alright..i'll look more
[07:33] <tallman> billy, what are those voices?
[07:33] <billy> tallmen:  my Masters.
[07:34] <l90bpm> just stopped in to see what was happening..   you all have a good one
[07:34] <jrandolph> !ati
[07:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:34] <mirra> where should the entire servers htaccess to moved to for better performance (know it was httpd.conf for apache, its different with apache2 right?)
[07:34] <l90bpm> hey wait
[07:34] <tallman> !envy
[07:34] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[07:34] <eck> mirra: put it in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[07:34] <Pepper> !ping
[07:34] <ubotu> pong
[07:34] <mirra> it doesnt work
[07:34] <l90bpm> I do have a question about that..  does nividia have a linux display manager?
[07:34] <Pepper> heh
[07:34] <eck> well, it depends on the distro
[07:34] <eck> but that will work in ubuntu
[07:34] <l90bpm> nvidia*
[07:34] <mirra> i have mod_rewrite..and it screws up
[07:35] <mirra> clean_urls enabled for a drupal site
[07:35] <mirra> it also doesn't block the user-agents I have listed
[07:35] <l90bpm> so I can cast to tv and (fine tune)
[07:35] <tallman> billy, and who are your masters?
[07:35] <hayden_> bullgard4, tallman thanks -,-
[07:35] <eck> mirra: have you tried #apache?
[07:35] <tallman> hayden_, you're welcome
[07:36] <mirra> i will now..i dont really use irc at all
[07:36] <bullgard4> !ping | bullgard4
[07:37] <eck> intelikey: which ubuntu release?
[07:37] <eck> dapper?
[07:37] <intelikey> 6.6
[07:37] <intelikey> yes
[07:37] <lisapc> whats the diff between /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java and /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java?
[07:37] <eck> uh, i think you need to edit /etc/inittab to stop the gettys from spawning
[07:37] <eck> it is different in edgy though, since upstart deprecated inittab
[07:37] <intelikey> eck yes there is no getty running on them.
[07:38] <eck> and they are still activated?
[07:38] <intelikey> eck have also edited /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh.    yes
[07:38] <eck> weird
[07:38] <zarul> ok great
[07:38] <intelikey> that's what i though.
[07:38] <eck> haha
[07:38] <lisapc> i get this error all of a sudden whe runing azureus:  No SSL provider available.  Whats that mean?
[07:38] <zarul> where to get the mss2 codec?
[07:39] <intelikey> so eck got any thoughts on   #2. ?
[07:39] <eck> what is the grub issue?
[07:39] <intelikey> no partitions
[07:39] <intelikey> :)
[07:39] <eck> you have no partitions?
[07:39] <intelikey> exactly
[07:39] <l90bpm> play anything ---->  http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[07:40] <eck> well if you happen to be using FAT you can use syslinux, probably doesn't apply
[07:40] <zarul> l90bpm,  seen that...
[07:40] <l90bpm> 3 easy steps
[07:40] <eck> intelikey: did you try manually mapping the drive device node in the grub shell? i guess that mjight work
[07:40] <l90bpm> it fixed my problem the other night
[07:41] <intelikey> eck i'll let you walk me through it if you like...
[07:41] <l90bpm> may not want some of the extras though.. like skype
[07:41] <mikefoo> ok so I just installed lm_sensors, ran sensors, and it says "no sensors found" this happens on two different servers. Anyone have an idea if I am missing something?
[07:41] <intelikey> eck  grub --no-floppy   ?
[07:41] <linux_user400354> im logged into a machine through ssh. i have an app running. how can i use screen so that when i logout, the app is still running?
[07:41] <even> hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllpppppp
[07:41] <l90bpm> lol
[07:42] <even> I have a very big problem witch apache2
[07:42] <eck> intelikey: is there a grub error when you boot up?
[07:42] <even> about htdocs
[07:42] <intelikey> eck can't be.  grub has never been installed.
[07:42] <even> somebody can help me ?
[07:42] <eck> intelikey: yeah, go to the grub shell
[07:42] <intelikey> k there
[07:43] <zarul> l90bpm,  I will look and see, but I guess most if not all of  them already on my machine
[07:43] <tombow> is there a command to find out what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[07:43] <tallman> !ask | even
[07:43] <ubotu> even: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:43] <eck> try just running root (hd0) or whatever, and then the setup command
[07:43] <l90bpm> @ even, I'm sure sombody will
[07:43] <even> I can't create a folder in htdocs
[07:43] <intelikey> grub> root (hd0)
[07:43] <intelikey>  Filesystem type unknown, using whole disk
[07:43] <even> beacause acess restriction
[07:43] <user1> exit
[07:44] <tallman> even, what about sudo su ?
[07:44] <eck> hmm.... remove the stage 1.5 stuff from /boot/grub and run it again and see if grub is actually putting them in the right place
[07:44] <l90bpm> zarul, what did you say you was trying to play again?
[07:44] <eck> if it is it might work
[07:44] <even> htdocs
[07:44] <intelikey> k
[07:44] <tombow> so is there a command to find out what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[07:45] <even> I want to create a folder in htdocs but I can
[07:45] <zarul> wmv that requires mss2 codec
[07:45] <eck> tombow: cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:45] <lisapc> what java should I be using?  it seeems I have 3 versions installed.
[07:45] <even> beacause it is lock
[07:45] <tombow> eck: thanks, looks like my upgrade succeeded
[07:45] <intelikey> eck ok now what ?
[07:45] <tallman> mikefoo, you can try searching on ubuntuforums.org
[07:45] <even> I have already us chmos but nothing .. snifff
[07:45] <eck> intelikey: when you run the setup command it should put grub on the mbr, after that you have to hope it works
[07:45] <l90bpm> haven't tried to play a wmv yet, so I can't answer that one.. wish I could
[07:46] <intelikey> setup ?
[07:46] <tallman> even, what about chmode ?
[07:46] <intelikey> setup (hd0) ?
[07:46] <eck> i have never put grub on a disk where i put the FS on the whole device though, not sure if it will work
[07:46] <l90bpm> VLC won't play it?
[07:46] <tombow> does ubuntu generally have problems with opterons?
[07:46] <eck> yeah
[07:46] <intelikey> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[07:46] <zarul> vlc, only the audio
[07:47] <eck> intelikey: you are probably out of luck. why can't you partition the drive?
[07:47] <chalmer> help with wireless connection???
[07:47] <linux_user400354> insteresting website
[07:47] <intelikey> eck it has linux on it....
[07:47] <intelikey> i don't want to reinstall
[07:47] <l90bpm> sounds like you definitely need a codec
[07:47] <chalmer> help with wireless connection???
[07:47] <l90bpm> I'm a n00b.. wish I could help
[07:48] <l90bpm> a very infatuated n00b
[07:48] <whta> !dvd
[07:48] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:48] <chalmer> help with wireless connection???
[07:48] <l90bpm> I like my suggestion for dvd playback..  just 3 steps
[07:49] <intelikey> i mean granted i got pretty good at it.  i used to reload twice a weak whether i needed too or not... but i installed this system just this weak,  it was several months sense the last install.
[07:49] <linux_user400354> ubuntu is soon to be sold on dells
[07:49] <l90bpm> and wah' la
[07:49] <mattyv> chalmer: No guarentees but I can try to help you
[07:49] <linux_user400354> i mean the dells are soon to be sold with ubuntu
[07:49] <chalmer> k
[07:49] <chalmer> matt:ok
[07:49] <Lgndryhr> i have a few questions about booting and restarting......i recently upgraded to 6.10 from 6.06 and didnt have these problems
[07:49] <l90bpm> killer..  glad somebody is coming around  (dell) figures it would be them
[07:49] <arfy> hi all. Well after configuring and compiling the latest alsa drivers, I successfully have an audigy 2 zs working, after alsaconf. However, when the system is rebooted it appears the audigy isn't ven loaded, and the sounds return to the internal card. Any suggestions here?.
[07:50] <eck> intelikey: what filesystem? i have never heard of anyone not partitioning except with fat and iso
[07:50] <mattyv> chalmer: is it usb or oci wireless card
[07:50] <zarul> l90bpm, no worries, everyone is a n00b...nobody knows everything till they die
[07:50] <mattyv> *pci
[07:50] <intelikey> eck ext2
[07:50] <eck> hmm, i am surprised it will do that
[07:50] <intelikey> you can have any fs that will support the size of the disk...
[07:50] <l90bpm> so very true
[07:51] <ohana> can someone please help me out with installing ubuntu? every time i try, just before it loads the screen goes blank
[07:51] <eck> i thought it would check to make sure you are putting it on a partition
[07:51] <eck> i guess not
[07:51] <chalmer> matt: pci
[07:51] <ohana> then ive got no keyboard/mouse access
[07:51] <ohana> all i can do is reboot :(
[07:51] <intelikey> eck thought what would ?
[07:51] <eck> mkfs
[07:51] <ohana> any ideas people? muchly appreciated
[07:51] <l90bpm> bet that will knock a couple hundred of the selling price of those dells
[07:51] <intelikey> nah
[07:51] <mattyv> chalmer: ok, try lspci and look for what sort of card it is (chipset)
[07:51] <billy> ohana:  more than likely your xserver is misconfigured.
[07:52] <ohana> billy: i dont understand. im booting from the cd. how am i supposed to configure it even before installing?
[07:52] <chalmer> i got it activated and put n mt SSID and key
[07:52] <l90bpm> your probably right, just a way for them to make a proffit w/o sharing w/ microsuck
[07:52] <whta> !dvd
[07:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:52] <chalmer> but there is still no internet
[07:52] <l90bpm> http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[07:52] <arfy> where is disk manager located? I looked under system, administration as suggested by the users guide, but can't see it.
[07:52] <mattyv> chamler: did you enter anything for the DNS server addresses?
[07:52] <billy> ohana:  there's a video mode option in the boot menu when you first start it up.
[07:53] <Schalken> does anyone have the md5sum of the ubuntu 6.06 (not 6.06.1) iso?
[07:53] <ohana> billy: ive tried setting that to 1024x768 32 and same thing happens
[07:53] <mattyv> chalmer: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:53] <intelikey> ohana assuming sufficient ram. (196m+) i'd guess you need to hit [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]   and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:54] <Lgndryhr> i have a few questions about booting and restarting......i recently upgraded to 6.10 from 6.06 and didnt have these problems before
[07:54] <intelikey> when it blanks out on you  ^
[07:54] <chalmer> chalmer@ubuntu:~$  lspci
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]  (rev 08)
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:00:10.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[07:54] <chalmer> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]  (rev 15)
[07:54] <chalmer> chalmer@ubuntu:~$
[07:54] <Schalken> !paste > chalmer
[07:54] <intelikey> nice flook
[07:54] <ohana> intelikey: tried ctrl-alt-f1, nothing happens. ive ot 768mb ram
[07:54] <intelikey> flood
[07:54] <chalmer> i did
[07:55] <buddha> how can u see the command line programs that u have on your system
[07:55] <Schalken> buddha: cd /usr/bin; ls
[07:55] <buddha> thanks
[07:55] <kaushal> Hi
[07:55] <chalmer> matt
[07:55] <mattyv> chalmer: ok atheros cards should work, and you have DNS. Can you ping anything?
[07:56] <Lgndryhr> i have a few questions about booting and restarting......i recently upgraded to 6.10 from 6.06 and didnt have these problems
[07:56] <Lgndryhr> when i restart it just hangs there and when i boot it doesnt look the same at all. and i dont mean the graphical look. i mean the text i see
[07:56] <Schalken> Lgndryhr: but it still boots?
[07:56] <Lgndryhr> yea
[07:56] <Lgndryhr> i can turn it off
[07:56] <intelikey> ohana frame buffer is out of sync.   that happens    boot with  vga=normal nosplash     added to the kernel line.   that might get you as far as a console so you can reconfig the xserver
[07:56] <Lgndryhr> and then turn it right back on
[07:56] <ohana> intelikey: to give you a better idea of what happening: just as xserver is about to load, its as if someone has unplugged my monitor/keyb/mouse. its not that my monitor has gone black, but has no signal
[07:56] <Schalken> Lgndryhr: but it wont reboot?
[07:56] <Lgndryhr> yea
[07:56] <l90bpm> mine boots slower after the very same upgrade..  but no problems
[07:56] <Lgndryhr> when i select reboot
[07:57] <Lgndryhr> it go to the text with some numbers in front saying system restarting
[07:57] <Lgndryhr> then it all of a sudden hangs
[07:57] <Lgndryhr> my keyboard is turned off
[07:57] <intelikey> ohana yeah  try that boot line  ^   might help.
[07:57] <Lgndryhr> but my computer stays on
[07:57] <chalmer> i ping google.com and it keeps going ? what am i looking 4
[07:57] <Schalken> Lgndryhr: my friend has the same problem.... never found a fix. not too much trouble to hit the reset button after the system has shut down
[07:57] <l90bpm> strange
[07:57] <Lgndryhr> true
[07:57] <ohana> intelikey: so vga=normal nosplash?
[07:57] <kaushal> I have posted to ubuntuforums
[07:57] <mattyv> chalmer: just looking for a response, press crtl + c to stop it
[07:57] <Lgndryhr> didnt know if there was a fix
[07:58] <Lgndryhr> i figured i shouldnt have upgraded to 6.10
[07:58] <kaushal> for apt-get install
[07:58] <dougb> does grub work if you have vista already installed?
[07:58] <intelikey> ohana yes.    but i make no promices  that it will fix it.   it "might."
[07:58] <Lgndryhr> i should have kept 6.06 lTS
[07:58] <kaushal> no one has replied
[07:58] <Lgndryhr> *LTS
[07:58] <kaushal> :-/
[07:58] <Schalken> does anyone have the md5sum of the ubuntu 6.06 iso?
[07:58] <chalmer> ok now what?
[07:58] <Lgndryhr> also when i boot
[07:58] <Schalken> or know where to get it?
[07:58] <Lgndryhr> i dont see the normal text
[07:58] <whta> i have libdvdread3 installed but I can't play any DVDs (i'm playing from VLC if that matters). what could be the problem?
[07:58] <Lgndryhr> like i did when i would boot in 6.06
[07:58] <Schalken> whta: you also need libdvdcss.
[07:59] <MasseR> Those with boot trouble, make sure apt-get has installed properly to the end
[07:59] <ohana> intelikey: thanks for that. this is probably asking too much, but any ideas on how to reconfigure the xserver once i hit console?
[07:59] <jlgaddis> Schalken: gimme a sec for the md5sum
[07:59] <l90bpm> whta..   just go here..  http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full  and do exactly what it says
[07:59] <mattyv> chalmer: thinking...
[07:59] <chalmer> mattyv> no what?
[07:59] <Lgndryhr> MasseR: what do you mean
[07:59] <l90bpm> it will take about 7-10 minutes
[07:59] <jlgaddis> Schalken: what's the filename of your iso?
[07:59] <l90bpm> and you won't have this problem
[07:59] <Schalken> jlgaddis: thanks. wait on...i can just do "check cd for defects" on boot instead. lol my bad
[07:59] <chalmer> mattyv>113 packets transmitted, 112 received, 0% packet loss, time 112481ms
[07:59] <intelikey> ohana the xserver on the live CD uses vesa   the splash uses frame buffering  some times the two are incompatable    if that don't help you can try the "alternate" install CD it has the textmode installer.
[08:00] <jlgaddis> Schalken: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS
[08:00] <chalmer> mattyv> is that what u r wanting to c ?
[08:00] <MasseR> Lgndryhr: Lgndryhr Nevermind I thought I was in #ubuntu+1
[08:00] <intelikey> ohana  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:00] <Lgndryhr> oh k lol
[08:00] <mattyv> chalmer: that shows a response, so yeh it's good
[08:00] <ohana> intelikey: and where can i get the 'alternate' install CD from?
[08:00] <intelikey> that's the command you want in the console ^ ohana
[08:00] <Schalken> jlgaddis: yeah they are of 6.06.1 and not 6.06. nevermind i will just do the check cd for defects.
[08:00] <whta> l90bpm: that just installs xine. will that let me play DVDs from VLC?
[08:01] <intelikey> ohana from the same place you got the live.
[08:01] <jlgaddis> ohana: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.10/, for one
[08:01] <whta> ahh never mind
[08:01] <mattyv> chalmer: are you going through a proxy by any chance?
[08:01] <chalmer> mattyv> ok
[08:01] <intelikey> !alternate | ohana
[08:01] <ubotu> ohana: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:01] <jlgaddis> Schalken: s/6.06/6.06.1/ in that url i pasted then, or run the check
[08:01] <l90bpm> xine?
[08:01] <jlgaddis> Schalken: comparing md5sum's is usually faster though
[08:01] <chalmer> mattyv> whats that?
[08:01] <l90bpm> are you logged in to a user that has privelidges?
[08:02] <mattyv> chalmer: I guess you're probably not
[08:02] <Lgndryhr> is it normal to not see anymore when booting in 6.10 the usual booting system files, etc... with [ok]  directly horizontal from the item on the right side like i would in 6.06 when i would boot........i now see something about swap file and loading and then it loads
[08:02] <chalmer> mattyv>  DSL
[08:02] <l90bpm> sp
[08:02] <idiot_> i'm having some trouble getting an initial xterm to pop up when logging into X.  running ubuntu and gdm...
[08:02] <Lgndryhr> it does load faster i noticed though
[08:02] <intelikey> i'm gone for a while. later folks.
[08:02] <ohana> intelikey: ok, so once i use that command in console, what will that do? or is there something else i need to do once that goes through?
[08:02] <chalmer> mattyv>  lynksys 54 G router
[08:02] <Schalken> jlgaddis: yeah ill just do the check cya
[08:02] <cosmo_> this is going to drive me nuts, I have searched both the ubuntu and kubuntu forum for a soulution and have tried what they suggest but it is still happening, when I boot up into kubuntu both of my moniters come on and show the splash screen, but as soon as I log in the CRT moniter on the DVI output turns off and I cant seem to figure out how to get it working
[08:02] <mattyv> chalmer: did you try cat /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:03] <Lgndryhr> is it normal to not see anymore when booting in 6.10 the usual booting system files, etc... with [ok]  directly horizontal from the item on the right side like i would in 6.06 when i would boot........i now see something about swap file and loading and then it loads
[08:03] <Lgndryhr> it does load faster i noticed though
[08:03] <cavediver> Hi. Anyone knows if it's possible to activate the new gnome 2.18 controlcenter in Feisty ? I see it uses the old way as a default.
[08:03] <chalmer> mattyv>  with 3 other comp's with windows they run fine
[08:03] <mattyv> chalmer: the fact that you can ping google shows the wireless itself is working fine
[08:03] <wazesz> anyone know how to update my graphic driver? i cant get widescreen for some reason
[08:03] <mattyv> cavediver: edit the menu
[08:04] <chalmer> mattyv>  what that is it a program/ or the terminal
[08:04] <Lgndryhr> wazesz: what kind of gfx card you have?
[08:04] <wyndblade> !envy | Wazesz
[08:04] <ubotu> Wazesz: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[08:04] <Lgndryhr> nvm they bet me to it
[08:04] <mattyv> chalmer: your router and wireless card should be fine under linux, it's a config problem of some sort...Oh yeah, run it from the terminal, Apps > Accessories > Terminal
[08:04] <Lgndryhr> *beat
[08:05] <cavediver> mattyv: what do you mean? What's the command for the new thingy then ?
[08:05] <wazesz> i have an hp a1640n with a GMA 3000 graphic card running on a i810 driver
[08:05] <l90bpm> I would like to have a display manager for a nvidia 5500 fx so I can fine tune a few settings if anyone knows anything.. let me know..
[08:05] <cavediver> If you mean removing all the stuff and adding the cc.
[08:05] <ohana> jlgaddis: sorry to bother you but intelikey went away, are you able to help me for a moment?
[08:05] <chalmer> what about tha drivers for tha card i have not installed them yet?  mattyv
[08:05] <jlgaddis> ohana: perhaps, what's up?
[08:06] <lisapc> when i ./configure it says: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!.  Whats the solution?
[08:06] <mattyv> cavediver: Right-click the System menu, and select Edit Menus, you can then add the control centre to Prefs I think. AFAIK you can't use the Contorl Centre by default though. Ask in #ubuntu+1 for more info
[08:06] <chalmer> mattyv>  will that matter?
[08:06] <Lgndryhr> is it normal to not see anymore when booting in 6.10 the usual booting system files, etc... with [ok]  directly horizontal from the item on the right side like i would in 6.06 when i would boot........i now see something about swap file and loading and then it loads
[08:06] <Lgndryhr> it does load faster i noticed though
[08:06] <mattymonkey> anyone know how to do a text only install using the 6.06lts cd they send out?
[08:06] <ohana> jlgaddis: intelikey told me to enter sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, once i hit the console when installing ubuntu. what do i do from there? does that open a file for me to edit or what?
[08:06] <mattyv> chalmer: the drivers are built in already :)
[08:06] <chalmer> mattyv>  will that matter?
[08:06] <chalmer> ok
[08:06] <GuHaSe> [ws]  Error in display.
[08:06] <GuHaSe> [ws]   Error code: 2 ( BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) )
[08:06] <GuHaSe> [ws]   Request code: 12
[08:06] <GuHaSe> [ws]   Minor code: 0
[08:06] <GuHaSe> [ws]   Modules: decode_video
[08:06] <cavediver> mattyv: ah I see. Found it.
[08:06] <GuHaSe> anyone know why gmplayer crashes with that msg?
[08:07] <lisapc> how do I install the x development libraries
[08:07] <GuHaSe> gmplayer crashes but mplayer works fine
[08:07] <mattymonkey> anyone know how to do a text only install using the 6.06lts cd they send out? sorry for repeating didnt think anyone saw
[08:07] <wazesz> i dont have an ati or nvidia card..its an intel
[08:07] <jlgaddis> ohana: you'll probably want to use dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg, then it'll open up a dialog box and prompt you
[08:07] <l90bpm> wish I did mattmonkey
[08:07] <Lgndryhr> wazesz: so it's integrated?
[08:08] <wazesz> yea
[08:08] <chalmer> mattyv: would i need to do a reboot after the card was installed
[08:08] <eck> lisapc: easiest way might be to apt-get build-dep something that depends on them, there are a lot
[08:08] <eck> lisapc: they are mostly named libX*-dev
[08:08] <tombow> whats my super key if i don't have a windows key on my keyboard?
[08:08] <l90bpm> <--- dumb as a wet rock
[08:08] <ohana> jlgaddis: is it pretty clear what i have to do from there or is there something else that ill need to know?
[08:08] <mattyv> chalmer: I don't have an atheros card so don't know about any problems they might have, don't think I can help you any more. Jump on ubuntuforums.org and have a search, or start a thread and describe that you can ping but not get internet. Reset shouldn't be needed
[08:08] <wazesz> Graphic Media Accelerator 3000
[08:08] <chalmer> mattyv: i guess not if i did'nt need tha driver cd then
[08:08] <lisapc> eck, when I try to ./configure ktorrent, it says: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!    What can I do?
[08:08] <ohana> jlgaddis: (im relatively new to linux... sorry to be a pain)
[08:08] <Lgndryhr> wazesz: hmm? much about integreated gfx card......i dont think you can upgrade it
[08:09] <jlgaddis> ohana: i dont recall what it asks right offhand.  if you're not sure, you can usually just accept the defaults.  worst case, you can hit ctrl-c to exit out
[08:09] <Lgndryhr> *i dont know much about
[08:09] <eck> lisapc: is ktorrent in universe? if so try apt-get build-dep ktorrent
[08:09] <ohana> jlgaddis: thanks for that, ill give it a try. although  i might be back here in about 20 mins :p
[08:09] <Lgndryhr> also if it doesnt allow widescreen is it b/c ur monitor cant do it
[08:09] <lisapc> eck, i cant as its old.  i got the latest version from website
[08:09] <ohana> jlgaddis: thanks again
[08:09] <eck> lisapc: that's ok, this is just for the libraries
[08:10] <wazesz> my monitor is widescreen
[08:10] <Lgndryhr> oh k
[08:10] <Lgndryhr> was just checking
[08:10] <eck> lisapc: the X11 dependencies and so forth are probably the same
[08:10] <wazesz> i was able to get widescreen on the same monitor but older pc
[08:10] <chalmer> mattyv: yea i got another same card in my windows comp and not 1 problem installing it
[08:10] <Lgndryhr> did u use ubuntu on older pc?
[08:10] <Lgndryhr> and was its gfx integrated
[08:10] <wazesz> no same version
[08:10] <wazesz> gfx wasnt integrated
[08:10] <Lgndryhr> that might be ur problem
[08:11] <wazesz> so ubuntu got problems with integrated gfx?
[08:11] <Lgndryhr> that i dont know
[08:11] <eck> integrated intel is the best :-)
[08:11] <wazesz> lol eck
[08:11] <Lgndryhr> ive only been using ubuntu for about 6 motnhs
[08:11] <Lgndryhr> *months
[08:11] <l90bpm> I downgraded but upgraded my integrated..  lol..  went from a 6100 to a 5500 w/ 256mb..  so yeah.. it made sense in the end
[08:11] <wazesz> i only use for 2 days ^_^
[08:11] <Lgndryhr> lol
[08:12] <Lgndryhr> i can only do a few things but can get around overall just fine
[08:12] <wazesz> the stretch screen is driving me insane
[08:12] <Lgndryhr> i bet
[08:12] <Lgndryhr> hmm u search the forums?
[08:12] <wazesz> yea i tried 915
[08:12] <wazesz> i tried xorg.conf
[08:12] <eck> 915 is intel only
[08:13] <wazesz> its intel integrated gfx
[08:13] <eck> wazesz: then it should work with the right magic
[08:13] <wazesz> but it didnt
[08:13] <tombow> omg upgrading to edgy solely for beryl was soooo worth it
[08:13] <mattyv> chalmer: atheros is the chipset, have a search for issues with that
[08:13] <eck> wazesz: what resolution?
[08:13] <l90bpm> magic.. lol   ain't that the truth
[08:13] <wazesz> all res except none on wide screen mode
[08:14] <wazesz> let me see the 915..i got an error on that
[08:14] <chalmer> mattyv: is there a network setup wizard in ubuntu that i can run?
[08:14] <QRZ> chalmer: If you can get traffic to/from a remote host, then your wireless connection is working!  Look elsewhere if your browser cannot retrieve Websites.
[08:15] <l90bpm> does it say eth0 is already running?
[08:15] <wazesz> i try to set it at 1280x800
[08:15] <l90bpm> had that problem w/ suse..  wanted to break something
[08:15] <l90bpm> try another card
[08:15] <eck> wazesz: i have used this for 1440x900 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10736/
[08:15] <l90bpm> if you have one
[08:15] <eck> three is probably some other magical command for that resolution
[08:15] <mattyv> chalmer: Not so much a wizard, the System > Admin > Networking tool should be all that's required in most cases. You could try a program called Network Manager Gnome, if your card works with it life will become very easy
[08:15] <wazesz> cool thanx eck, i'll check it out
[08:15] <eck> i'm not really sure how 915resolution works
[08:15] <buddha> does sudo aptitude install whatever install the librarys auto.?
[08:16] <mattyv> chalmer: Are you using dhcp?
[08:16] <chalmer> mattyv> yea
[08:16] <eck> maybe if you replace the 1440 and 900 by the numbers for your res?
[08:16] <wazesz> me neither lol..i just follow the direction on forum
[08:17] <chalmer> mattyv: the card works cause i had it n another comp w/ windows
[08:17] <eavawter> I'm trying to get my wireless card to connect through belkin F5D7231-4 and keep getting the message from the firewall on the router "1 blocked by DoS protection.  Anyone know how to fix this problem?
[08:17] <wazesz> oh yea i get that error
[08:17] <wazesz> Intel chipset detected.  However, 915resolution was unable to determine the chipset type.
[08:17] <eck> hm
[08:17] <wazesz> Chipset Id: 29a08086
[08:17] <mattyv> chalmer: Last thing I can think of is to manually put your DNS server addresses in. Did your ISP gives you 2 IP addresses for DNS? If so, go to the Network setup dialog and click on the DNS tab.
[08:18] <l90bpm> well yeah.. w/ windoze..  mine did too.. but my integrated absolutely will not work in linux.. so I have two cards installed.. the on-board.. and the extra
[08:18] <mattyv> chalmer: yeah I'm sure the card works, you wouldn't be able to ping google otherwise
[08:18] <wazesz> maybe i810 driver doesnt support that type of intel gfx
[08:18] <eck> what model is that?
[08:18] <wazesz> GMA 3000
[08:18] <chalmer> mattyv: o ok
[08:18] <Lgndryhr> wazesz try this here ----> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262236
[08:18] <wazesz> thanx lgndryhr
[08:18] <chalmer> mattyv: it must b ubuntu
[08:18] <eck> eavawter: if you don't have any windows machines on your network, you can just drop the firewall on your router
[08:18] <wazesz> i'll check it out
[08:18] <l90bpm> thats just how I had to do it (the lazy way) got tired of flipping back and forth from static ip's to dhcp etc. nothing ever worked
[08:18] <Lgndryhr>  and here -----> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p7.html
[08:18] <Cryoniq> eavawter, that is not a problem, DoS stands for Denial of Service, if I place it in the correct environment
[08:19] <eavawter> unfortunately I have xp as well eck
[08:19] <mattyv> chalmer: yeah almost definitely a DNS issue
[08:19] <Cryoniq> eavawter, You really want to deny DoS and what is defined as DoS attacks
[08:19] <mattymonkey> anyone else notice the live cd runs *really*really* slow?
[08:19] <eck> Cryoniq: yes, but the firewall probably thinks the linux computer is trying to attack the network and is dropping it
[08:19] <mattymonkey> like painfully slow i wish i could just install this but i cant even set it up to install cuz its so slow
[08:19] <jlgaddis> chalmer: are there any dns servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf?
[08:20] <Lgndryhr> wazesz -----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[08:20] <eavawter> I have no clue what this means ... but I do KNOW that it's me .. on my ubuntu machine trying to get in
[08:20] <l90bpm> well that depends on ram.. and drive speed and cpu..   runs fine on mine.. but not on the old latitude
[08:20] <eck> eavawter: well if it was me i'd drop the router's firewall, it is obviously incompetent. maybe you can run a firewall on the windows machine?
[08:20] <wazesz> thanx for the help guys..i really appreciated it...im going to try one of those methods and restart x
[08:20] <mattymonkey> i dont know why but every comp ive tried it on its as slow as molasses
[08:21] <bartist> hi there
[08:21] <bartist> i cant login
[08:21] <mattymonkey> newer laptops and stuff.. not blazingly fast ones but newer ones
[08:21] <Lgndryhr> make sure to check out that last link too
[08:21] <mattymonkey> *shrug*
[08:21] <bartist> i can log in by konsole
[08:21] <mattymonkey> wish i could figure out a text mode install
[08:21] <wazesz> ok lgndryhr ^_^
[08:21] <bartist> but i cant log in using the graphical way
[08:21] <chalmer> man
[08:21] <Lgndryhr> hope they work
[08:21] <arooni> hey folks.... when i load up 'sound recorder' i cannot select a drop down... for audio input.... and i get other apps complaining there's no audio input option available.... ideas?  (i have a sony laptop if that helps)
[08:21] <l90bpm> well like I said.. it's fast on my acer.. but it is a dual core amd
[08:21] <eavawter> belkin told me if I did that I wouldn't be able to connect to sites on my xp system .. that's not what I want
[08:22] <eck> you wouldn't be able to connect to sites?
[08:22] <Lgndryhr> ok now to get my question finally answered since i am still being ignored lol
[08:22] <l90bpm> this one it runs pretty good on..   but I only have 512mb of ram.. and its just a sempron 3200
[08:22] <Lgndryhr> is it normal to not see anymore when booting in 6.10 the usual booting system files, etc... with [ok]  directly horizontal from the item on the right side like i would in 6.06 when i would boot........i now see something about swap file and loading and then it loads
[08:22] <eck> why? are you running some sort of vpn or something?
[08:23] <eavawter> that's what they told me .. although I wouldn't put it past them to be full of sh.... either
[08:23] <l90bpm> poor Lgndryhr
[08:23] <yvone> hola
[08:23] <yvone> hi
[08:23] <Lgndryhr> you making fun of me l90bpm
[08:23] <l90bpm> no hablo espanol..   sorry
[08:23] <mirra> can anybody help me configure iptables to allow nameservers
[08:23] <Lgndryhr> ich sprache sie Desutch
[08:23] <l90bpm> nah' just feelin' bad 4 ya
[08:23] <bartist> i can log in with konsole, but i cant log in in kde
[08:23] <Lgndryhr> und du?
[08:23] <l90bpm> wish I could help
[08:24] <Lgndryhr> lol thanks dude
[08:24] <Ademan> can anyone tell me if wine 0.9.33 is in the wine repository yet? if it is i can't see it
[08:24] <eck> eavawter: i would try disabling the firewall completely, if the router web interface doesn't have better access controls
[08:24] <Lgndryhr> anyone here a 6.10 user and has been a 6.06 user
[08:24] <eavawter> unfortunately I'm not sure how to do that eck
[08:25] <eck> eavawter: it is probably an option in the web interface for the router
[08:25] <l90bpm> it's not a WRT54G by chance is it?
[08:25] <yvone> hola
[08:25] <yvone> hola
[08:25] <l90bpm> hola
[08:25] <yvone> trodos
[08:25] <l90bpm> mucho la cerveza
[08:25] <yvone> hablan ingles
[08:25] <yvone> ?
[08:25] <l90bpm> no hablo
[08:25] <l90bpm> no hablo
[08:25] <l90bpm> lmao
[08:25] <tungarbulb> I'm having a problem with XMMS - IT SIMPLY WILL NOT START. I have uninstalled it completely and reinstalled it, several times. I've removed any unneeded audio programs. What is going on?
[08:25] <Alonea> goto the spanish ubuntu
[08:26] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. maybe if he logged netstat and his process log we could figure out if there are something that can produce that
[08:26] <yvone> ?
[08:26] <yvone> not inglich you
[08:26] <Lgndryhr> tungarbulb: you have xine installed and its lib's
[08:26] <yvone> !!!
[08:26] <tungarbulb> I believe so. I'll check.
[08:26] <Alonea> umm, whats the command someone to show the other channels that are different languages?
[08:26] <yvone> yes
[08:27] <Alonea> #ubuntu-es
[08:27] <Alonea> er, that might be it
[08:27] <yvone> guats?
[08:27] <Alonea> yeah, thats it, yvone, goto that channel
[08:27] <lisapc> anyone here using ktorrent?
[08:27] <yvone> not inglich you
[08:28] <eck> !es
[08:28] <Lgndryhr> lisapc: i use it
[08:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:28] <Cryoniq> lisapc, I have been using it, but a lot of ahum ratio sites doesnt like it for some reason
[08:28] <l90bpm> yvone ----->  #ubuntu-es
[08:28] <Alonea> eck: thankyou, I didnt know the command to do it.
[08:28] <ohana> jlgaddis: hi, sorry to be a bother, but it didnt work
[08:28] <l90bpm> my wife could have helped but she is sleeping
[08:29] <ohana> jlgaddis: same thing happened as before, i didnt even get a chance to type anything into the console
[08:29] <eck> Alonea: it is ! and then the country code
[08:29] <yvone> bye
[08:29] <l90bpm> bye
[08:29] <Alonea> adios
[08:29] <eck> or language code i guess
[08:29] <ohana> jlgaddis: it seems to die at the same point, i cant quite read what its saying: something like "Setting up HP Linux Printer..."
[08:29] <kane77> hi, is there any program that would put a program into tray (and not show it on the taskbar?)
[08:29] <Alonea> eck: yeah, I just vaguely remembered the name of the channel. I forget the ! thing
[08:30] <lisapc> Lgndryhr, whenever I chose IP blocking filter i settings and press Downlooad/Convert it says: The file or folder http://www.btack.info/splist.zip does not exist.   Any ideas?
[08:30] <l90bpm> theres my next headache..   setting up all the printers in this house
[08:30] <l90bpm> ouch
[08:30] <ohana> !alternative | ohana
[08:30] <tungarbulb> LGNDRYHR: Everything seems to be properly installed.
[08:30] <eck> l90bpm: i hope the printer supports ipp
[08:30] <Lgndryhr> hmm h/o
[08:31] <l90bpm> what's ipp?
[08:31] <Cryoniq> !ipp
[08:31] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:31] <eck> l90bpm: it is the best thing ever. if your printer supports it, all clients need to do is enter the ip of the printer and it is set up
[08:31] <eck> generally you can just use post script, so you don't have to mess with printer drivers or anything like that
[08:31] <ohana> can someone please point out where to get the "alternative" install cd?
[08:31] <eck> works with any operating system :-)
[08:31] <l90bpm> really, I only need the one to work...  HPlaserjet 4..  that all-in-one isn't worth the ink
[08:32] <Lgndryhr> tugnarbulb: when you say it wont play you mean it wont play mp3's or what?
[08:32] <Lgndryhr> lisapc: idk never used that much of ktorrent sorry
[08:32] <eck> l90bpm: nmap -A your printer and see if it is running lpd or ipp
[08:32] <tungarbulb> "Lgndryhr: hmm h/o" - What do you mean?
[08:32] <Lgndryhr> lisapc: i just use it to dl stuff thats it
[08:32] <eck> if so, you might be able to save yourself some trouble
[08:33] <Lgndryhr> h/0 means "hold on"
[08:33] <eck> err, this would have to be a network printer of course
[08:33] <Lgndryhr> *h/o
[08:33] <l90bpm> thanks uboto
[08:33] <Lgndryhr> tugnarbulb: when you say it wont play you mean it wont play mp3's or what?
[08:33] <l90bpm> ubotu*
[08:33] <tungarbulb> It won't even start, period.
[08:33] <Lgndryhr> oh k give me a second
[08:34] <ohana> !alternate
[08:34] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:34] <l90bpm> I don't have it hooked up at the moment.. we've been doing a bit of re-arranging
[08:34] <ohana> can someone please give me the link to get the alternate install cd?
[08:34] <tungarbulb> I should say I just upgraded to Edgy a few days ago.
[08:34] <buddha> does sudo aptitude install whatever install the librarys needed to run the program too?
[08:35] <l90bpm> that's a huge printer..  I'll wait to move it..  lol  it's late
[08:35] <Imsdle> Hi, Everyone... I have run out of diskspace after deleting a large number of photos on my computer... and now i cannot log in. two question. how do I delete files/folders in the .Trash folder and two.. isn't there any way I can stop this from happening again?
[08:35] <mattyv> buddha: should do
[08:35] <Lgndryhr> k i am too but my xmms still works hold on a second
[08:35] <l90bpm> bought it at an auction..   $2 bucks.. and it prints like 25 pages a minute or so
[08:36] <l90bpm> way better than that hp 1210v
[08:36] <lisapc> anyone here using ktorrent?
[08:36] <l90bpm> just not in color :C
[08:36] <tungarbulb> I should also say that I installed a few interesting-looking audio programs from the "Add-Remove" function. I've since removed them.
[08:36] <tungarbulb> I hope I didn't hose something.
[08:36] <eck> ohana: it is on the page with the desktop cd
[08:37] <eck> ohana: network printers are the way to go, if you can afford them
[08:37] <eck> oops
[08:37] <eck> not to you, ohana
[08:38] <QRZ> Imsdle: Can you get to a command prompt?
[08:38] <l90bpm> yeah that would be great..  for the laptops
[08:38] <Imsdle> yup.. i can ssh in
[08:38] <l90bpm> as far as the desktop goes..  it don't matter that much 2me
[08:38] <Lgndryhr> tungarbulb: odd i cant think of a reason why
[08:38] <Lgndryhr> all i can say is
[08:38] <Imsdle> i can't delete the folders in the .Trash file.. i have tried the --ignore-fail-on-non-empty
[08:38] <QRZ> Imsdle: Ok then.  You can manually delete all the items in your .Trash dir by doing something like, "rm -f ~/.Trash/*"
[08:39] <H264> quich question: where is the preference file for the clock that displays in the upper right hand of the screen?
[08:39] <H264> *quick
[08:39] <Lgndryhr> make sure everything that was there before is installed and xine is up to date and all lib's are there and uninstall xmms and reinstall (in that order)
[08:39] <H264> I broke 7.04 by changing it from 24 hour to UNIX time
[08:40] <H264> so I am limited to the command lineright now
[08:40] <tungarbulb> I uninstalled and reinstalled several times. Damn, I don't want to erase the HD and reinstall from scratch but I cannot think of what else to do.
[08:40] <eck> H264: you don't like unix time? ;-)
[08:40] <l90bpm> running out of space is no good..  makes a pc act up constantly..   you need to always have a lil space to write to..
[08:40] <H264> don't know
[08:40] <Lgndryhr> let me search real quick
[08:40] <H264> I was going to check it out
[08:41] <H264> but when I chaned it, it flashed several times and then both the top and bottom pannel was gone
[08:41] <H264> leaving me with nothing to click on
[08:41] <Imsdle> nope.. that didn't work
[08:41] <Imsdle> still have all the directories in there
[08:41] <eck> H264: /apps/panel/applets/clock_screen0/prefs/*_time
[08:41] <eck> it is a gconf string
[08:41] <eck> so you have to use gconf-editor or the comand line tool for it
[08:41] <H264> ok
[08:41] <QRZ> Imsdle: Then do it with root privs (use sudo).
[08:42] <Lgndryhr> tungarbulb: put this in terminal "xmms %U"
[08:42] <Lgndryhr> and tell me the outcome
[08:42] <eck> haha, you definitely don't want unix time
[08:42] <tungarbulb> What will that do?
[08:42] <H264> can you post a command to do it?
[08:42] <Imsdle> yeah tried that too
[08:42] <Imsdle> same thing
[08:42] <eck> H264: you have to do it from the command line?
[08:42] <H264> lol, poor us
[08:43] <l90bpm> I'm a recovering "point and clicker" myself
[08:43] <QRZ> Imsdle: But you will need to specify the whole path. (ie: sudo rm -f /home/username/.Trash/*)
[08:43] <Imsdle> rm: cannot remove `/home/melissa/.Trash/rdiff-backup-data': Is a directory
[08:43] <Imsdle> :(
[08:43] <H264> I dont see any other way to do it
[08:43] <Lgndryhr> will bring up xmms it will work no matter what and say something in terminal "Message: device: default"
[08:43] <tungarbulb> I did as you said. Nothing. No response. Cursor just sits there
[08:43] <Lgndryhr> *if it will work
[08:43] <eck> H264: run gconf-editor
[08:43] <Lgndryhr> let me know what happens
[08:43] <QRZ> Imsdle: Ok, then do, "sudo rm -rf /home/melissa/.Trash/*"
[08:43] <tungarbulb> No response, no error message, no action of any kind.
[08:44] <H264> meh
[08:44] <Lgndryhr> just goes to a new line?
[08:44] <H264> mind if I pm you?
[08:44] <eck> sure
[08:44] <tungarbulb> That's right, but without the prompt.
[08:44] <Lgndryhr> hmm
[08:44] <l90bpm> anyone know where I can find a crafty shell replacement?  want to be tacky..  something CSI'ish if you can
[08:44] <l90bpm> lol
[08:45] <Imsdle> QRZ - I get the same error
[08:45] <tungarbulb> Either something went flaky during the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, or I punched the wrong button someplace.
[08:45] <QRZ> Imsdle: Even with the -rf switches?
[08:45] <l90bpm> hey, I noticed someone on jericho earlier using the gimp.. made me happt to see linux in use on tv
[08:45] <Lgndryhr> i think something went flaky
[08:45] <Lgndryhr> b/c it shouldnt be doing that
[08:45] <Lgndryhr> as far as i know
[08:46] <tungarbulb> Damn. So what do I do? Can I repair my installation or is it totally hosed?
[08:46] <Lgndryhr> that idk
[08:46] <tungarbulb> What's IDK?
[08:46] <Lgndryhr> i dont know
[08:46] <Lgndryhr> (sorry sorta sleepy)
[08:46] <tungarbulb> You too huh?
[08:46] <Lgndryhr> (so becoming lazy)
[08:46] <Lgndryhr> actually i should be in bed since i have work in the morning
[08:47] <Lgndryhr> lol
[08:47] <robby> k can i get a quick tut on how to get wireless to work
[08:47] <l90bpm> sleep is over rated
[08:47] <tungarbulb> Any idea as to what else I could do in the way of research, repairs, etc.?
[08:47] <robby> im using edgy on a toshiba satalite m105
[08:47] <billy> Anyone else ever have mplayer mozilla plugin just suddenly stop after playing a few seconds of quicktime format movies?
[08:47] <robby> i hate work, but dam i love the paycheck
[08:47] <l90bpm> must have a good job
[08:48] <Imsdle> it's doing something
[08:48] <l90bpm> hate work and the paycheck too'
[08:48] <Flannel> !wifi | robby
[08:48] <ubotu> robby: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:48] <robby> nope
[08:48] <Lgndryhr> post in ubuntu forums help, google around, and try looking around the synaptic installer
[08:48] <robby> i just need money
[08:48] <tungarbulb> Can I re-run the upgrade?
[08:48] <Lgndryhr> u can try to re-run it but ive never tried that
[08:48] <tungarbulb> I've been all over Synaptic. No dice. I wish there were some kind of diagnostic tool.
[08:48] <QRZ> Imsdle: Hopefully deleting everything in your .Trash dir.  :-)
[08:48] <Lgndryhr> hate to run but i got to go
[08:49] <Imsdle> fanks dude
[08:49] <helfrez> well there goes osx 10.4.9 patch
[08:49] <l90bpm> later Lgn
[08:49] <Flannel> tungarbulb: What's your sources.list look like?  And, what errors does "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" give?
[08:49] <Imsdle> thats awesome
[08:49] <kane77> what is the program that sets the amd cool n quiet?
[08:49] <QRZ> Imsdle: welcome
[08:49] <tungarbulb> Good night and thanx Lgndryhr.
[08:49] <Lgndryhr> np
[08:49] <Lgndryhr> night tungarbulb and l90bpm
[08:49] <Lgndryhr> peace
[08:49] <l90bpm> night night
[08:49] <eck> kane77: i think powernowd
[08:49] <l90bpm> xoxoxox
[08:49] <kane77> eck, right! thanx
[08:49] <foutrelis> good morning :)
[08:49] <tungarbulb> Flannel - I'm a recovering Windows user so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Please clarify.
[08:50] <l90bpm> we all are
[08:50] <Flannel> tungarbulb: Pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list (open it in a text editor)
[08:50] <l90bpm> winblows got us all started except maybe a few old heads that used unix
[08:50] <l90bpm> @ work..
[08:50] <Flannel> !paste | tungarbulb
[08:50] <ubotu> tungarbulb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:50] <l90bpm> or they had one hell of a power bill
[08:51] <l90bpm> ubuntu is sexy..
[08:52] <tungarbulb> Flannel - Oh, you mean the list of sites where Ubuntu downloads files & updates from. Those are sll set to pull down from the Edgy archives.
[08:53] <Flannel> tungarbulb: alright, then open a terminal, and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[08:53] <kane77> how do I temporarily disable powernowd?
[08:53] <tungarbulb> Ubotu - Not sure I understand what pastebin is for. I have no dumps or bug logs that I know of, if that's what it's for.
[08:54] <robby> can someone walk me thru gettign my wifi up please
[08:54] <Flannel> tungarbulb: I had said to pastebin your sources.list, so I gave you the URL, incase you didn't need it
[08:54] <robby> the tut is making me feel inferior
[08:54] <tarelerulz__> my ip keeps changing that that  make azureus stop working
[08:54] <lostdream> QQ
[08:54] <Priest-o1-Psi> is there a subversion client like tortoise svn?
[08:54] <buddha> ubuntu is WAY better than windows
[08:54] <lostdream> 88
[08:54] <QRZ> kane77: "/etc/init.d/powernowd stop" I'd say.
[08:55] <wyndblade> !vista
[08:55] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[08:55] <foutrelis> lol
[08:55] <foutrelis> ^.^
[08:55] <jlgaddis> damn, i can hear lindsey snoring all the way in here in my office
[08:55] <Flannel> Priest-o1-Psi: no, just standalone clients.
[08:55] <l90bpm> stupid question alert:  how do I check to see what version I'm currently running?
[08:55] <jlgaddis> erm, wrong channel
[08:55] <jlgaddis> heck, wrong network for that matter
[08:55] <tungarbulb> Flannel - I ran the sudo command. It says there's nothing to upgrade.
[08:55] <kane77> QRZ, but now it stayed at 1GHz...
[08:55] <l90bpm> vista: that shit is poop
[08:55] <robby> i agree
[08:56] <QRZ> kane77: Ok.
[08:56] <l90bpm> drm
[08:56] <Flannel> tungarbulb: alright, so, what's going wrong?
[08:56] <l90bpm> yuck
[08:56] <jlgaddis> l90bpm: cat /etc/issue should work
[08:56] <robby> can someone walk me thru getting my wifi up please
[08:56] <l90bpm> thanks
[08:56] <jlgaddis> Vista is nice.
[08:56] <robby> ive done it before i jsut want to write it down correctly so i can do it again if need be
[08:56] <tungarbulb> I wish I knew. XMMS will not start, period. Everything else works (as far as I know) but I could be wrong about that.
[08:56] <aldin> robby: say ur probl
[08:56] <mirra> can anyone here help me with iptables w/ nameservers ?
[08:56] <mirra> cant resolve names
[08:56] <Flannel> tungarbulb: in a terminal, type "xmms" and see what errors it gives
[08:57] <jlgaddis> mirra: You know the IP addresses of your nameservers?
[08:57] <robby> i am trying to get my wifi working so i can surf in bed
[08:57] <Flannel> tungarbulb: but, a quick way to fix it would be to remove xmms (completely), then reinstall
[08:57] <l90bpm> lol...  well I thought I upgraded
[08:57] <H264> :)
[08:57] <jlgaddis> iptables -I INPUT -s $dns_ip/32 --sport 53 --dport 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT
[08:57] <tungarbulb> Flannel - I type XMMS and NOTHING happens. No response whatsoever.
[08:57] <l90bpm> nope..  still running 6.06
[08:57] <H264> life is too easy
[08:58] <wyndblade> tungarbulb: using lowercase for xmms I hope
[08:58] <l90bpm> guess I better upgrade huh?
[08:58] <tungarbulb> Flannel - I removed then reinstalled several times. No dice. Feels like I'm using WIN 98 again!
[08:58] <mirra> yes..i tried adding them to the tables to accept but it doesnt work..it used to..
[08:58] <mirra> jlgaddis, that was to you
[08:59] <Flannel> tungarbulb: Did you "remove" or "complete removal" in synaptic?
[08:59] <tungarbulb> Flannel - Uppercase or lowercase, same thing - Nothing.
[08:59] <jlgaddis> mirra: can you post your iptables to pastebin?
[08:59] <tungarbulb> Perhaps it's time to empty out my bank account and buy a Mac.
[08:59] <mirra> pastebin is a channel?
[08:59] <jlgaddis> !pastebin
[08:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:00] <Flannel> tungarbulb: Did you remove the package completely? or just "remove" it?
[09:00] <l90bpm> is an upgrade absolutely nessesary?
[09:00] <tungarbulb> Flannel - completely.
[09:00] <l90bpm> I mean just so long as your updated
[09:00] <mirra> jlgaddis, one second
[09:01] <l90bpm> nanoo nanoo
[09:01] <jlgaddis> man, busy day tomorrow for a saturday... taco bell at 10am, looking at a bike at noon, another one at 2pm, then migrating a database server at 4.30.
[09:01] <l90bpm> sounds fun
[09:01] <Flannel> !offtopic
[09:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:01] <l90bpm> why taco hell at 10 in the am?
[09:02] <l90bpm> talk about heart burn
[09:02] <jlgaddis> l90bpm: heh, have to pull a dead hub and put a switch in its place
[09:02] <l90bpm> take the pink stuff
[09:02] <l90bpm> oic
[09:02] <Marupa> Heya, quick question about JRE, if anyone can help.
[09:02] <mirra> jlgaddis, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10739/ - i use webmin to configure the tables..
[09:02] <l90bpm> great.. now I have the song stuck in my head
[09:03] <Flannel> !anyone | Marupa
[09:03] <ubotu> Marupa: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:03] <Flannel> l90bpm: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:03] <tungarbulb> Flannel - you there?
[09:03] <l90bpm> oops..  ok chief
[09:03] <jlgaddis> !foad
[09:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:03] <Marupa> I'm running an applet on a windows computer and on an ubuntu computer, both use JRE6, yet windows uses 0-2% CPU, while linux uses 92-100% CPU.  Is there a reason why?
[09:03] <Flannel> tungarbulb: I am.  I don't know what to say.  It not running, and not giving an error is most odd.
[09:04] <aldin> robby: can u post "lspci" command on pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:04] <jacquesmerde> quick question, if i boot a fesity livecd, i assume it will automount a fat32 partition on the harddrive, yeah? will it monut it ro or rw?
[09:04] <aldin> robby: and "iwconfig" too
[09:04] <tungarbulb> Flannel - So it's pile the data onto DVD's and wipe the HD and reinstall from scratch, right?
[09:04] <Marupa> rw, I'm pretty sure, jacquesmerde.
[09:04] <l90bpm> it's easy to get off subject when nobody answers your questions..
[09:04] <robby> aladin, do i do those in terminal
[09:04] <mirra> jlgaddis, any idea?
[09:04] <Flannel> tungarbulb: Do you have /home on it's own partition?
[09:05] <jlgaddis> mirra: well, your input chain is a little... weird, but it looks like it should work
[09:05] <tungarbulb> Flannel - No.
[09:05] <mirra> it doesnt
[09:05] <jlgaddis> mirra: i'd add a rule to the end that logs anything that's dropped
[09:05] <yvone> hi
[09:05] <jlgaddis> mirra: that might give you some more clues
[09:05] <mirra> where do i check the lgos
[09:05] <mirra> logs*
[09:05] <aldin> robby: yes
[09:05] <yvone> hello
[09:05] <jlgaddis> it'll log to /var/log/messages by default, iirc
[09:05] <yvone> hola
[09:06] <mirra> k ill check..thanks
[09:06] <robby> aladin how do i do it in paste bin?
[09:06] <aldin> robby: lspci & iwconfig -> paste it
[09:06] <robby> i havent used it yet
[09:06] <Zambezis> Is 225.255.252.0 called subnet? "Ntmask" in Swedish, I'm not sure.
[09:06] <yvone> nadien habla espaol?????????????
[09:06] <jlgaddis> Zambezis: subnet mask, or just netmask
[09:06] <Flannel> !es | yvone
[09:06] <ubotu> yvone: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:06] <eck> subnet and netmask are interchangeable
[09:06] <Flannel> tungarbulb: Ah, then... yeah.  Backup I suppose.  When you reinstall, you might want to put /home on it's own partition, to cut out the "backup" parts later, you can reinstall around all your personal stuff.
[09:06] <aldin> robby: ok, just open this site pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org and all ur results copy/paste there and send us link here
[09:06] <Flannel> !backup | tungarbulb, these might help
[09:06] <ubotu> tungarbulb, these might help: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:06] <aldin> robby: i am aldin, not aladin ok
[09:06] <Zambezis> jlgaddis, Tack.
[09:07] <yvone> hola
[09:07] <Zambezis> jlgaddis, Oh. I mean thanks. :-)
[09:07] <yvone> nadien habla espqaol
[09:07] <robby> im sorry
[09:07] <l90bpm> peace vO   see you all later
[09:07] <robby> im incredibly tired
[09:07] <Zambezis> yvone,
[09:07] <jlgaddis> Zambezis: np
[09:07] <Zambezis> !es
[09:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:08] <robby> aldin
[09:08] <robby> k i got it
[09:08] <robby> sry
[09:09] <yvone> hola
[09:09] <yvone> nadien habla espaol???????????
[09:09] <jlgaddis> !es | yvone
[09:09] <ubotu> yvone: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:09] <jlgaddis> yvone: va a #ubuntu-es o habla ingle
[09:09] <yvone> ke??
[09:09] <yvone> hablas ingles
[09:10] <yvone> ?
[09:10] <yvone> o espaol
[09:10] <robby> ingles
[09:10] <aldin> yvone: cambio para #ubuntu-es
[09:10] <yvone> no aka me sale en espaol
[09:10] <mirra> jlgaddis, how exactly do i log only dropped packets??
[09:11] <aldin> yvone: por favor cambio de esta #ubuntu-es
[09:11] <yvone> k
[09:11] <yvone> ?
[09:11] <robby> aldin did i do it right?
[09:11] <Slynderdale> Hmm, anyone happen to know where one can find a distributable/open source/gnu font package that support international characters such as japanese?
[09:11] <yvone> no le entiendo
[09:11] <jlgaddis> mirra: "iptables -A INPUT -j LOG" will do it, iirc
[09:11] <aldin> robby: where is ur pastebin? something like this mine http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10741/
[09:11] <Slynderdale> yvone: #ubuntu-es
[09:11] <yvone> kieren mi fon?
[09:11] <robby> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10740/
[09:12] <yvone> kieren mi numero  de celilar o casa??????
[09:12] <phinite> I've added an HP1020 using the foo2zjs driver and I don't see an error, but a test page isn't printing either.  what log file can I look into to figure out what's happening?
[09:13] <aldin> robby: good now try this: sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[09:13] <yvone> kieren mi numero  de celular o casa????????????????????????????????????????????????
[09:13] <eriksomebody> forgive me, i'm new here... are there any special rules i should be mindful of?
[09:13] <yvone> perdon
[09:13] <dilch> eriksomebody, yes, asking questions like that is forbidden
[09:13] <jlgaddis> eriksomebody: speak english, no profanity, use common sense.  that'll take care of 99% of it.
[09:14] <eriksomebody> k... just making sure
[09:14] <yvone> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:14] <robby> aldin k then what?
[09:14] <aldin> yvone: caramba, cambio to este chanale... tu es on #ubuntu cambio tu #ubuntu-es
[09:14] <aldin> robby: what it says
[09:14] <mirra> jlgaddis, nothing is being added in messages
[09:14] <dilch> yvone, hula?
[09:14] <yvone> halgien habla espaol???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[09:14] <robby> aldin to pastebin
[09:14] <robby> ?
[09:15] <eriksomebody> i don't know if anyone can help, but none of my screensavers work... when the ten minutes pass and a screensaver should kick in, i just get a black screen
[09:15] <aldin> robby: what says this -> "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" -> paste it on pastebin
[09:16] <yvone> espaolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[09:16] <dilch> ubuntu fiesty fawn is the top story on slashdot atm ... it says fiesty will be the greatest OS ever produced, bar none
[09:16] <yvone> hablen espaolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[09:16] <robby> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10742/
[09:16] <MainEiac> phinite: try dmesg
[09:16] <billy> dilch:  do you have a link?
[09:17] <bkw> Even if I install Xfceubuntu on a computer, can I still install and run applications such as kwrite kate etc from the kde packages?
[09:17] <dilch> billy, to slashdot?
[09:17] <phinite> checking that now MainEiac
[09:17] <dilch> billy, i'll let you guess it
[09:17] <eriksomebody> any screensaver tips here?
[09:17] <Slynderdale> yvone: espaol -> #ubuntu-es
[09:17] <billy> dilch: i don't understand.  I must be out of the loop on something.
[09:17] <tarelerulz__> have any of used qtorrent and if so well it load a torrent and  pick up where you lleft off?
[09:17] <dilch> billy, go to slashdot.org or direct to http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17505/Ubuntu-Feisty-Fawn-Desktop-Linux-Matured/
[09:17] <aldin> robby: "encryption key:on" hmmm, well i dont know how to do this, i heard that u need some wpasuplicant package,...
[09:18] <billy> dilch:  thanks for the link.
[09:18] <aldin> robby: but u can try this
[09:18] <bullgard4> What is the effect of the line 'iface ath0 inet dhcp' in the file /etc/network/interfaces? (I have read 'man interfaces'.)
[09:18] <aldin> robby: it works for me on unencrypted networks
[09:18] <robby> aldin i know what the key is so how do i put it in so i can use the wireless
[09:18] <mirra> jlgaddis, you there?
[09:18] <dilch> billy, haha, i thought you were joking about a link for slashdot
[09:18] <phinite> MainEiac: I'm not seeing anything in dmesg to be honest.
[09:18] <aldin> robby: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid Terrazas
[09:18] <joshjosh> quick gnome question: how do I set my texts on panels to appear in a color other than black? I want to change them to white
[09:19] <billy> dilch:  no.  i'm just out of the loop.  :)  I've only used linux for about two months now, so there's lots I don't know.
[09:19] <phinite> would a reboot need to be done before I see anything in there anyway?
[09:19] <robby> aldin then what?
[09:19] <dilch> billy, ok .. well slashdot is good for a browse now and then, especially for a nice linux bias ;)
[09:20] <billy> dilch:  bookmarked.
[09:21] <MainEiac> phinite: was the printer on and connected when you installed the driver?
[09:21] <phinite> yes, it was.
[09:21] <aldin> robby: robby now with iwcongfig see if u got an network
[09:21] <dilch> billy, you liking linux? You must be, you lasted 2 months heh
[09:21] <phinite> linux printing is one of the one things that always makes me nervous.  I never seem to get it right
[09:21] <robby> aldin sudo iwconfig eth1 essid Terrazas
[09:21] <MainEiac> phinite: maybe you need to config cups,or,start cupsd
[09:22] <Cryoniq> !panel
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <robby> aldin sry
[09:22] <phinite> looking up where to do that now MainEiac
[09:22] <robby> unassociated
[09:22] <aldin> robby: what is sry
[09:22] <robby> aldin unassociated
[09:23] <robby> aldin is what it says
[09:23] <robby> aldin i dont know
[09:23] <dilch> sry == sorry
[09:23] <billy> dilch:  yeah.  I like Linux.  I like the freedom, the novelty.  I enjoy the challenge of learning new stuff.
[09:24] <dilch> billy, lol, you'll get over that when you run into some hard-core problems .. then you'll see how much you like it. That's when it becomes really fun though
[09:24] <aldin> dilch: thx
[09:24] <mirra> where does iptables keep its logs????????
[09:24] <aldin> robby: can u make ur wireless unencrypted
[09:24] <graulich> I'm sharing a folder via SMB but when I try to access it on Windows it asks for un+pass and none of the accounts on the Ubuntu machine work. how can I access this folder?
[09:24] <dilch> mirra, it logs to /var/log/messages by default
[09:24] <aldin> robby: ur AP so we connect on it
[09:24] <tarelerulz__> Do any of you know any torrent client that will pick up where other one  left off . So you don't have to start all over again if you have download alot of an iso
[09:24] <MainEiac> well way past my bedtime goodnight all
[09:25] <robby> aldin what?
[09:25] <robby> aldin ap?
[09:25] <mirra> nothing is being logged there tho
[09:25] <billy> dilch:  I haven't hit any hardcore problems yet.  I learn lots (especially what *not* to do) just reading this chat.
[09:25] <mirra> i added a rule for it
[09:25] <aldin> robby: acces point
[09:25] <robby> aldin oh
[09:25] <robby> aldin k what do i do tho?
[09:26] <dilch> billy, yeah it's good .. would have been handy when i was learning *nix back in the stone ages
[09:26] <aldin> robby: can u make it withtout encryption
[09:26] <dilch> mirra, do you have any logging rules?
[09:26] <robby> nope
[09:26] <mirra> yes..log all incoming
[09:27] <dilch> mirra, did you use firestarter?
[09:27] <robby> aldin nope sry
[09:27] <mirra> no
[09:27] <robby> aldin i know the wpa password tho
[09:27] <cypher1> !firestarter | mirra
[09:27] <ubotu> mirra: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:27] <dilch> mirra, does the rule show up when you do "iptables -L"?
[09:27] <aldin> robby: ok, wpasupplicant is thing what u need, AFAIK
[09:27] <mirra> yes
[09:28] <robby> aldin afaik?
[09:28] <aldin> robby: i never tried to connect on crypted wireless but i heard it is ok, it is possible
[09:28] <robby> where do i get it from?
[09:28] <dilch> mirra, and is it high enough up to actually get the traffic (ie not last so it only logs the dropped)
[09:28] <aldin> As Far As I Know = AFAIK
[09:28] <mirra> nope
[09:28] <mirra> good call...one sec
[09:28] <aldin> robby: dpkg -l | grep wpa
[09:28] <AzMoo> Hey, I'm having an issue connecting to a Vista share from this Ubuntu box. It keeps asking for a password, but there it shouldn't be.
[09:29] <aldin> robby: this one is to seee if it is installed
[09:29] <AzMoo> s/there//
[09:29] <Cryoniq> Anyone know how to edit color and text color etc for the gnome panels? One have to dive into config files and do it manually from there?
[09:29] <aldin> AzMoo: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[09:29] <aldin> AzMoo: sudo smbpasswd -e $USER
[09:29] <robby> aldin how do i install it or see if it is?
[09:29] <AzMoo> aldin, that's only required for connecting to the ubuntu box, isn't it?
[09:29] <Priest-o1-Psi> hmmmm rugby time
[09:30] <aldin> robby: to se if it is do dpkg -l | grep wpa
[09:30] <robby> ii  wpasupplicant                              0.5.4-5                       Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11
[09:30] <aldin> to install it sudoa pt-get install wpasupplicant
[09:30] <aldin> AzMoo: is Vita sking u for pass or ubuntu
[09:31] <AzMoo> When I try to access the Vista share (smb://vistamachine/share) I'm asked for a password.
[09:31] <aldin> robby: ok, it is installed
[09:31] <robby> aldin k then what?
[09:31] <mirra> dilch, not working................
[09:31] <billy> dilch, nice article.  Once feisty is released April, I'm going to install it on a separate partition and see how it all goes.
[09:32] <dilch> mirra, ok, did you get the iptables script you're using from somwhere? Like maybe it's has it's logging set up to go somewhere else
[09:32] <aldin> robby: just sec i will explore a bit, never done this for my own cause i dont use crypted wirelles.. ok, brb, in meantime u can ask here how to connect u crypted wireless
[09:32] <kosnick> i try to compile some game, the instructions say "sh ./configure" but when i do so i get the response "can not guess the build type" . Can someone explain?
[09:32] <mirra> nope
[09:32] <mirra> did it in webmin
[09:32] <robby> anybody know how to conenct to a wap encrypted wireless
[09:32] <dilch> mirra, ah .. i kinda avoid webmin ... i wouldn't be surprised if it logged to somewhere else
[09:33] <cypher1> !wifi-radar | robby
[09:33] <mirra> any idea how to figure that out
[09:33] <ubotu> robby: wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:33] <AzMoo> aldin, When I try to access the Vista share (smb://vistamachine/share) I'm asked for a password.
[09:33] <robby> ubotu where do i get that from?
[09:34] <cypher1> robby, sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[09:34] <joshjosh> cypher1, sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[09:34] <kosnick> ubotu!
[09:34] <dilch> mirra, um, there could be if you pasted the iptables script to pastebin ... i don't know where webmin keeps it though
[09:34] <kosnick> ubotu
[09:34] <kosnick> !ubotu
[09:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:34] <phinite> I see the printer now through cups (v1.1.23) web administration, and I can send another test page, but nothing actually comes out
[09:34] <aldin> robby: ubotu is just a bot it automatically answers... u can try this sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[09:34] <kosnick> robby see this
[09:34] <kosnick> !ubotu
[09:34] <dilch> mirra, maybe /etc/rc.d/init.d/webmin-iptables
[09:34] <mirra> it doesn't list it when i view the tables from the command line
[09:35] <robby> aldin it didnt work
[09:35] <phinite> I can't see any errors in /var/log/syslog /var/log/cups/error_log or /var/log/dmesg
[09:35] <dilch> mirra, doesn't list what?
[09:35] <phinite> thoughts?
[09:35] <aldin> did u enabel ur repositories?
[09:35] <aldin> robby: is it WPA WEP or third..
[09:35] <robby> wpa
[09:36] <mirra> dilch, i dont have a rc.d directory...rc.local, rc0.d, rc1.d, etc... i was saying that iptables -L doesnt show any log paths
[09:36] <aldin> robby: what about ur repositories?
[09:36] <robby> aldin how do i check?
[09:37] <aldin> robby: hmm cat /etc/apt/sources.list or go to system->administration->synaptic
[09:37] <dilch> mirra, ah ok ... well there is a couple things to do ... are you registered? Can we go pm?
[09:37] <aldin> system->adinistration>software sources
[09:37] <aldin> robby: the upper line
[09:37] <mirra> dilch, i am not registered
[09:38] <phinite> how can I see what jobs are in a print queue?
[09:38] <v_> lpq
[09:38] <kosnick> in my panel the same "buttons" are collected under the same tab. How can i change that?
[09:38] <v_> phinite: lpq
[09:38] <mirra> dilch, i dont remeber how far our conversation goes..by my end result is to figure out why i cannot get nameservers to work with my iptables
[09:38] <eriksomebod1> can anybody help me with turning on my screensaver?
[09:38] <dilch> mirra, well, do /msg nickserv mirra <password>
[09:39] <robby> aldin k i think i turned them on now do i just try again for wifi radar?
[09:40] <mirra> dilch, i hate to sound like a moron but that isnt working
[09:40] <mirra> dilch, ooh its owned by someone else
[09:40] <aldin> robby: first reload them
[09:40] <robby> aldin i think im gettin git i found it online
[09:40] <aldin> robby: u can do this by sudo apt-get update
[09:40] <hole> is the fish floppy?
[09:41] <dilch> mirra, lol, well register a nick, only because it probably isn't wise to be advertising what your doing to the firewall while testing
[09:41] <foutrelis> kyriakosax: I <3 you too.
[09:41] <aldin> robby: i think im gettin git?
[09:41] <aldin> robby: i am not englihman hehe
[09:41] <eriksomebod1> screensavers anyone?
[09:41] <robby> aldin it*
[09:41] <aldin> robby: understand some words but some u will have to explain
[09:42] <robby> aldin i think im getting it i found it online
[09:42] <root__> uuhm hello i've been stupid and now that bar on the top is gone
[09:42] <aldin> robby: i lost connection
[09:42] <root__> with the programs
[09:43] <aldin> robby: where were we
[09:43] <phinite> ok, something worked, it prints now.  how can I share a printer via samba to my windows/mac machines?  can someone point me at a good howto for doing that?  now that it's working (not that I know how) through cups?
[09:43] <hyper-cool> does anyone know how to read the boot log?
[09:43] <root__> i can only go into a terminal :/
[09:43] <robby> aldin i was getting wifi radar
[09:43] <hole> i like penguins,theyre friendley
[09:43] <aldin> robby: ok ist it done
[09:43] <robby> i think
[09:43] <root__> can someone help me getting the taskbar back again?
[09:44] <aldin> type wifi-radar and go
[09:44] <robby> aldin how can i see?
[09:44] <phinite> hyper-cool: check dmesg
[09:44] <joshjosh> root__, how'd you lose it?
[09:44] <dilch> mirra, you still here?
[09:44] <hyper-cool> phinite: how can i do that?
[09:44] <joshjosh> root__, And KDE or Gnome?
[09:44] <aldin> robby: ?
[09:44] <phinite> cat /var/log/dmesg
[09:44] <sysko> Is that WAP gui still available in Edgy?... It was available in Drake if I am correct.
[09:44] <robby> aldin ?
[09:44] <aldin> robby: u can read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[09:45] <phinite> I don't know if that is what you are looking for, but it's what I'd start with
[09:45] <aldin> robby: did u run wifi-radar
[09:45] <billy> gnight folks.
[09:45] <hyper-cool> I keep getting acpi exception errors when i try to boot, so i have to boot into safemode.
[09:45] <robby> k thnx
[09:45] <mirra> dilch, sorry my computer just froze for a minute
[09:45] <hyper-cool> phinite: thanks
[09:45] <mirra> one second
[09:45] <root__> joshjosh gnome and i deleted it myself
[09:45] <dilch> ok
[09:46] <eriksomebod1> phinite: do you know anything about the default screensavers?
[09:46] <joshjosh> root__, you still got your other panel? what's missing?
[09:46] <robby> aldin i still cant see eth1 as a connection
[09:46] <root__> joshjosh, the panel at the top is missing and the other is still there
[09:46] <aldin> robby: what wifi-radar finds?
[09:46] <robby> it finds the network
[09:46] <joshjosh> root__, right click on the bottom panel and click "new panel"
[09:47] <robby> aldin i just cant connect to it as my internet
[09:47] <root__> joshjosh done
[09:47] <aldin> robby: that is why u need to configure ur key, as i said i never did this on my ovn but i am trying to help AFAIK
[09:47] <joshjosh> then right click again, and add to panel and find what you need. starting with Menu Bar. Should be at the bottom
[09:47] <aldin> robby: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=16382797
[09:47] <root__> thank you joshjosh :D
[09:47] <robby> aldin i jsut need to be able to make my eth1 card my connection not my eth0
[09:48] <eriksomebod1> joshjosh: do you know anything about screensavers? i've been trying to get some help for a few minutes now
[09:48] <robby> aldin i go to system->admin->networking then my eth1 says not configured
[09:48] <robby> i want to configure it
[09:48] <joshjosh> eriksomebod1, nope. I just use blank screen
[09:49] <robby> but i cant even see the network through it
[09:49] <albertjh> hi
[09:49] <albertjh> ola
[09:49] <albertjh> spanish???
[09:49] <eriksomebod1> joshjosh: is that what most people do? like is this a common problem?
[09:49] <albertjh> need help
[09:49] <joshjosh> eriksomebod1, what's your problem? I just don't use screen savers
[09:50] <aldin> robby: i know eth1 is wireles... nevermind for now, it is important that u can see it with "iwconfig" and "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" take momment and read this article http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[09:50] <albertjh> eriksomebod1, can you help me??
[09:50] <eriksomebod1> joshjosh: when i try to activate a screensaver i use default 10 mins and when it kicks on i only get black screen
[09:50] <joshjosh> hmm
[09:50] <eriksomebod1> albertjh: i can try, but i'm brand new...
[09:51] <joshjosh> eriksomebod1, yeah. I have no clue
[09:51] <joshjosh> albertjh, what's up?
[09:51] <hole> whats the command for deleting files in the console
[09:51] <mattyv> rm
[09:51] <hole> thx
[09:51] <albertjh> eriksomebod1, ok look i have a problem whit eth1, but a friend help me
[09:51] <mattyv> as in reomve
[09:51] <mattyv> *remove
[09:51] <robby> brb
[09:51] <hole> i gotcha
[09:51] <aldin> robby: i took a read and this was compicatet...
[09:51] <hole> i'vetried like everything but rm
[09:51] <blackhole> Has anyone configured or used DataCard On Ubuntu
[09:51] <eriksomebod1> albertjh: good to know, that's out of my league in linux at the moment
[09:51] <aldin> robby: we should find something better
[09:52] <albertjh> eriksomebod1,  then it put a comand for start up to recognice me the eth1
[09:52] <joshjosh> albertjh, are you trying to get wireless working?
[09:52] <albertjh> joshjosh,  i tri to start up whit wireless
[09:52] <joshjosh> albertjh, what card?
[09:53] <aldin> robby: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136&highlight=wpa
[09:53] <blackhole> The DataCard is bassically EC325 From HuaWEI
[09:53] <albertjh> joshjosh, but y have to go to the terminal and put cd /usr/scr/ipw..../ sudo ./load always
[09:53] <blackhole> Can Some one help me out configuring it..?
[09:53] <joshjosh> albertjh, what card?
[09:53] <albertjh> joshjosh, INTEL PRO WIRELESS
[09:53] <albertjh> joshjosh, i dont remenber the code number
[09:53] <mattyv> hole: hehe, although it wouldn't give the answer in this case, apropos is a useful command
[09:54] <albertjh> joshjosh, 3495b?? or something like that
[09:54] <joshjosh> ok
[09:54] <joshjosh> albertjh, what version of Ubuntu?
[09:54] <albertjh> 6.06
[09:54] <mattyv> hole: do you know about pressing "tab" to help complete commands, another handy thing
[09:54] <joshjosh> ok
[09:54] <aldin> robby: brb too i think that article should work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136&highlight=wpa
[09:55] <albertjh> joshjosh, sorry im not english , im traying it's ok??
[09:55] <joshjosh> albertjh, you're good. don't worry about it. just trying to find a fix right now.
[09:56] <joshjosh> albertjh, I'm not familiar with your card...but try reading this thread and using what they've done; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140085
[09:56] <albertjh> joshjosh, i configure all, i need to put the code for when i start ubuntu that my computer recongnize my eth1
[09:57] <joshjosh> albertjh ifconfig eth1 up
[09:57] <joshjosh> add that to system: preferences: sessions
[09:57] <albertjh> joshjosh, and that's all?
[09:57] <joshjosh> albertjh, yeah, that should work.
[09:57] <Newbi1> hey! does any1 know how to fix my 'system sanity check!, says it failed?
[09:58] <AzMoo> How do you change the sudo password?
[09:58] <albertjh> joshjosh,  look this :albertjh@albertjh-portatil:~$ sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[09:58] <albertjh> Password:
[09:58] <albertjh> albertjh@albertjh-portatil:~$
[09:58] <Newbi1> says something trying to run "dpkg  configure--a?
[09:58] <albertjh> joshjosh, when i start again its configure??
[09:58] <IndyGunFreak> well, i'd start with running that command, albertjh
[09:59] <joshjosh> albertjh, it should be
[09:59] <Newbi1> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.    any1 understand this?
[09:59] <albertjh> joshjosh, ok im going to try now, see in a minut ty!!
[09:59] <IndyGunFreak> Newbi1: open a terminal and run that command.
[10:00] <joshjosh> albertjh, alright. if that doesn't work...we'll try something else
[10:00] <IndyGunFreak> its telling you how to fix it.
[10:00] <Newbi1> ok
[10:00] <rambo3> morning
[10:01] <pierodelta> hi how i can mount a second hard disk
[10:01] <robby> how do i find network manager?
[10:01] <robby> or the installer for it?
[10:01] <robby> terminal commands are fine
[10:02] <rambo3> robby, sudo network-admin
[10:02] <alecjw> robby, system>administration>networking
[10:02] <joshjosh> robby, type networkmanager in console
[10:02] <rambo3> robby use tab fo autocomplete for commands you dont know
[10:02] <robby> really?
[10:02] <robby> k thnx
[10:03] <alecjw> rambo3, gksudo, not sudo
[10:03] <rambo3> alecjw, i use sudo and there is no way i ll change
[10:04] <aldin> robby: i am in again
[10:04] <IndyGunFreak> is networking-admin, different than the network-manager-gnome(which Id on't have installed)
[10:04] <aldin> robby: what is situation
[10:04] <alecjw> rambo3, using sudo for graphical apps can cause the program not to work properly. do it to your own computer by all means, but please dont tell anyone else to
[10:04] <albertjh> joshjosh, doesnt work
[10:04] <joshjosh> albertjh, hmm...
[10:04] <rambo3> alecjw, thanks for compy/paste i ve read it before
[10:04] <albertjh> joshjosh, i have to write ./load in ipw....
[10:05] <joshjosh> alberjh, so you know what commands to use to do it/
[10:05] <joshjosh> albertjh, just add those commands to system: preferences: sessions and it should work
[10:05] <albertjh> joshjosh, yos i have a block
[10:05] <albertjh> joshjosh, wait i put all here
[10:06] <albertjh> joshjosh,  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) wireless-tools
[10:06] <albertjh> http://ieee80211.sourceforge.net/   bajo y descomprimo
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo mv ieee80211-1.2.16 /usr/src
[10:06] <albertjh> cd /usr/src
[10:06] <albertjh> cd iee....
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo sh remove-old   [acepto todo] 
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo ln -sf /bin/bash /bin/sh
[10:06] <albertjh> pillar repos
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo apt-get update
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:06] <albertjh> en carpeta cd /usr/src/ie....
[10:06] <albertjh>  sudo make IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include
[10:06] <joshjosh> dude
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo make install
[10:06] <albertjh> http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[10:06] <albertjh>  sudo mv ipw3945-1.2.0 /usr/scr
[10:06] <joshjosh> you're going to get kicked
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo ./unload
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo make IEEE80211_IGNORE_DUPLICATE=y
[10:06] <joshjosh> for flodding the channel
[10:06] <albertjh> cd..
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo wget http://bughost.org/ipw3945/ucode/ipw3945-ucode-1.13.tgz
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo tar xvzf ipw3945-ucode-1.13.tgz
[10:06] <albertjh> cd ipw3945-ucode-1.13/
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo cp ipw3945.ucode /lib/firmware
[10:06] <albertjh> cd..
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo wget http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/ipw3945d-1.7.22.tgz
[10:06] <alecjw> !paste | albertjh
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo tar xvfz ipw3945d-1.7.22.tgz
[10:06] <ubotu> albertjh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:06] <albertjh> cd ipw3945d-1.7.22/
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo cp x86/ipw3945d /sbin
[10:06] <albertjh> cd..
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo cp x86/ipw3945d /sbin
[10:06] <albertjh> sudo ./load
[10:07] <albertjh> cd /usr/src
[10:07] <alecjw> !ops
[10:07] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[10:07] <albertjh> cd ipw3945-
[10:07] <albertjh> joshjosh, that all i do
[10:07] <albertjh> ups sorry
[10:07] <jlgaddis> you idiot
[10:07] <Mez> albertjh, please join #ubuntu-ops
[10:07] <jlgaddis> thanks guys
[10:07] <joshjosh> well, i don't know how to help you. i have no idea what you're trying to do
[10:07] <Mez> albertjh, please join #ubuntu-ops
[10:08] <IndyGunFreak> some just don't listen
[10:08] <Mez> albertjh, are you there ?
[10:08] <pierodelta> how can I mount a second hard disk ?
[10:08] <rambo3> !mount | pierodelta
[10:08] <ubotu> pierodelta: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:09] <pierodelta> thanks rambo
[10:09] <rambo3> any time
[10:10] <pierodelta> under administration i have not disk ..
[10:10] <albertjh> joshjosh, can we chat alone?
[10:11] <joshjosh> albertjh, sure
[10:11] <rambo3> !Diskmounter | pierodelta
[10:11] <ubotu> pierodelta: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:11] <albertjh> joshjosh, how
[10:12] <nightrid3r> !beryl
[10:12] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:12] <ubtu> hi! how can i activate wireless ethernet card in asus a3e notebook ?
[10:13] <aldin> robby: ?
[10:13] <albertjh> joshjosh, are you there?
[10:13] <robby> aldin yes?
[10:13] <joshjosh> albertjh, yes. I messaged you. You're not respondong.
[10:14] <joshjosh> Hold on, i'll be back in a bit, dog ran off
[10:14] <aldin> robby: what is situation
[10:14] <IndyGunFreak> albertjh: you have to be registered to do private messages
[10:14] <robby> aldin i cant figure it out
[10:14] <joshjosh> albertjh, search for your card on http://www.ubuntuforums.org and you'll find out how to fix it
[10:15] <Huffalump> pierodelta - by chance, I'm intrigued by the diskmounter script.  any idea if it works with ntfs-3g?  I've got that installed... but was looking for a way to automount my ntfs drives.
[10:15] <aldin> robby: didi u red that link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136&highlight=wpa
[10:15] <robby> anybody know how to get a eth1 wireless card to be configured to work?
[10:15] <albertjh> joshjosh, im talking to you in the other windows
[10:15] <robby> yes i did
[10:15] <albertjh> joshjosh, dont read me?
[10:15] <robby> it didnt work
[10:15] <robby> aldin brb
[10:15] <aldin> robby: sory, i tried to help as i could
[10:15] <alecjw> ubtu, are you in edgy?
[10:15] <robby> aldin its great thnx
[10:15] <ubtu> i m in edgy
[10:16] <scv> in? on? at?
[10:16] <alecjw> ubtu, go to system>admin>networking
[10:16] <alecjw> and configure it there
[10:16] <Huffalump> aldin - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[10:16] <scv> hi, I'm ba..ba..ba..back
[10:16] <Huffalump> oops, robby - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[10:16] <robby> huffalump thnx ill read it
[10:17] <ubtu> but wireless light doesnt switchin on :pp
[10:17] <alecjw> ubtu, do you know what wireless card you have?
[10:18] <ubtu> intel 2200bg
[10:18] <alecjw> ubtu, it should be fine. my friend has one of those. it works fine, but the wireless light doesnt switch on
[10:18] <aldin> Huffalump: thx in my name... btw if i go ad-hoc would i be able to have wpa crypto
[10:19] <ubtu> well
[10:19] <ubtu> ok
[10:19] <ubtu> thanks
[10:20] <Huffalump> aldin - I don't see why ad-hoc or infrastructure would be different.
[10:22] <IndyGunFreak> Linux is pretty easy, but if you're so braindead you can't do a google search, you should stay away
[10:22] <phinite> ok, the printer is now installed on the linux box and working from there, working from the windows box correctly.  and finally, I have to get it printing from the mac..... I'm ALMOST there
[10:22] <phinite> peace all and thanks for the help
[10:22] <IndyGunFreak> oops, that shoulda been a PM..lol
[10:22] <Huffalump> haha
[10:23] <IndyGunFreak> well, not really a PM< just for another room
[10:23] <Huffalump> #ubuntu-oh-noez!!!
[10:23] <kalin> hi, i have an ubuntu installation completed on a hdd and i am trying to edit my existing windows xp bootloader boot.ini to add the ubuntu installation to the list. I used bootpart to create a boot file, but i think that requires lilo to be installed on the linux installation and i dont think it is. Is there some way I can setup grub for use from the xp bootloader?
[10:24] <IndyGunFreak> kalin: grub should have installed with your installation(at least it always has for me)
[10:24] <aldin> Huffalump: cause once i saw in XP's that it becomes disabled automatically whey u point to ad-hoc... nevermind perhaps i saw WEP instead WAP?
[10:24] <kalin> yeah, that's what i thought also, but i'm not sure how to get the xp bootloader to load it
[10:24] <Huffalump> yes, grub should have.  did you tell it not to, during the install?
[10:24] <robby> can i run kde and gnome on the same edgy comp?
[10:24] <aldin> robby: of course
[10:24] <kalin> the ubuntu is not on the boot partition
[10:24] <aldin> i do it on mine
[10:24] <Huffalump> kalin, the xp boot loader doesn't.  grub becomes the boot loader.
[10:24] <IndyGunFreak> kalin: are you running ubuntu on a second hard drive?
[10:25] <Huffalump> ah.
[10:25] <kalin> IndyGunFreak, yes
[10:25] <rambo3> i know i used loadlin for that kalin
[10:25] <IndyGunFreak> kalin: set your bios to boot that hard drive first
[10:25] <pierodelta> !fstab
[10:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:25] <DivineLight> Does Ubuntu manages binaries of packages not included in the distro cd?
[10:25] <Huffalump> DivineLight, can you be more specific?
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> kalin: most likely, you installed grub to that drive, instead of your windows drive, not a huge deal, you just need to set your bios to boot your linux drive first
[10:26] <Huffalump> There's always something you could download which might not be on the CD.  But the CD has everything you need.
[10:26] <DivineLight> I need to download Bison package, is it available on the Ubuntu site as a binary ?
[10:26] <alecjw> kalin, you're go9ing to have ro reinstalll grub to the mbr. do you know how to do that?
[10:26] <DivineLight> Compiling from source is sometimes problematic.
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> alecjw: its probably on his second drive,
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> DivineLight: sometimes?..lol
[10:26] <Priest-o1-Psi>  root@jeanre-desktop:/home/jeanre# apt-cache search bison
[10:26] <Priest-o1-Psi> bison - A parser generator that is compatible with YACC
[10:27] <DivineLight> Huffalump: No, to compile wine I need flex and bison that are not included
[10:27] <Priest-o1-Psi> DivineLight: its in the repos
[10:27] <alecjw> IndyGunFreak, kalin, thn you need to tell your bios to boot from your second hard drive first
[10:27] <DivineLight> Yeah, 90% of the time :D
[10:27] <Huffalump> DivineLight, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=bison&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[10:27] <IndyGunFreak> alecjw: thats what i told him
[10:27] <rambo3> hahaha
[10:27] <alecjw> IndyGunFreak, oh sorry
[10:27] <DivineLight> Thanks Huffalump !
[10:27] <Fujitsu> DivineLight: Why would you compile wine? Just open up Synaptic Package Manager (System->Applications->Synaptic Package Manager), and locate the packages you need (wine, in this case)
[10:28] <robby> can i run kde and gnome on the same computer and just choose which i use at bootup?
[10:28] <DivineLight> Fujitsu: My Uber Modem (Huwai Wireless Modem) doesn't work on Ubuntu :(
[10:28] <Huffalump> robby, yes.
[10:29] <Fujitsu> DivineLight: You can find the packages at packages.ubuntu.com. There are download links there, if you can't access the Internet in Ubuntu.
[10:29] <robby> huffalump how can i do that?
[10:29] <DivineLight> Fujitsu: Yes i am searching them. thanks :)
[10:30] <IndyGunFreak> robby: search synaptic for kde... then install the kde-desktop GUI....(i think its named just, kde).
[10:30] <Huffalump> robby - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-kde-kubuntu-on-ubuntu/
[10:30] <IndyGunFreak> it'll take about 5mn or so to install.
[10:30] <xc_legend> hello i have a question concerning e17 on 6.06 lts
[10:30] <svu> why would user apps be refused connection to dbus - if system dbus-daemon is running and user dbus-launch as well???
[10:30] <Fujitsu> robby, IndyGunFreak: It's kubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <Huffalump> robby, after you play with that and have it working.... then try xfce w/ Beryl
[10:30] <IndyGunFreak> Fujitsu: i'm pretty sure last time i installed it, it was just kde
[10:30] <IndyGunFreak> in synaptic that is.
[10:30] <Fujitsu> IndyGunFreak: I can assure you it is, and always has been, kubuntu-desktop.
[10:31] <Fujitsu> Huffalump: ... why?
[10:31] <pierodelta> !fuse
[10:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:31] <robby> huffalump does beryl work with a laptop touchpad?
[10:31] <`nicola> which port does ubuntu remote desktop use ? I need to forward it because I'm behind a router
[10:31] <`nicola> thanks
[10:31] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - I've decided xfce is not longer for free
[10:31] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - freaks
[10:31] <Fujitsu> robby: Of course!
[10:31] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: lol.
[10:31] <Huffalump> Fujitsu - Because it's great?
[10:31] <Fujitsu> Well, as much as Beryl works with anything.
[10:31] <Huffalump> robby, most likely it will work just great.
[10:31] <Fujitsu> Huffalump: Beryl is unstable as anything. You shouldn't tell newish users to use it.
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> Fujitsu: so whatis the kde package in synaptic?  kde...... The K Desktop environment official modules
[10:32] <tombow> beryl is the greatest thing ever
[10:32] <robby> huffalump thnx
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> thats the one i've always installed, and it worked fine
[10:32] <Huffalump> Fujitsu - I am new.  Under a month and now have it on multiple machines with vastly different video cards.  All working fine.
[10:32] <robby> ill have to try that
[10:32] <Fujitsu> IndyGunFreak: That's a small component of it.
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> Fujitsu: but when i choose to install it, it installs all dependencies, programs, etc.
[10:32] <Fujitsu> kubuntu-desktop is what you should use to get the whole thing.
[10:32] <Fujitsu> IndyGunFreak: ... that's the point.
[10:33] <kalin> rambo3, so loadlin will allow me to boot from my windows install, but i want to get it added to the bootloader list so i dont have to boot windows first :)
[10:33] <IndyGunFreak> Fujitsu: i guess i'm missing the point, what do you mean?
[10:33] <Priest-of-Psi> man gnome feels so uh how can I explain this...... stupid
[10:33] <Fujitsu> Having KDE without any of its applications is sort of losing the whole effect.
[10:34] <IndyGunFreak> i don't even have kubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <Fujitsu> Priest-of-Psi: Some feel that way.
[10:34] <IndyGunFreak> Fujitsu: it installs all the applications
[10:34] <Huffalump> Priest-of-Psi, if you find yourself unable to use it effectively, then change to KDE or XFCE
[10:34] <Fujitsu> IndyGunFreak: Your point? That's the ideal situation.
[10:34] <Priest-of-Psi> Huffalump: yeah
[10:34] <Priest-of-Psi> it does not feel effective
[10:34] <Huffalump> Or put Beryl on top.
[10:34] <IndyGunFreak> Fujitsu: i guess i'm trying to figure out why mine says kde.... and yet you recommended kde-desktop.
[10:34] <Huffalump> Vrrrooooom.
[10:34] <Fujitsu> IndyGunFreak: I recommended kubuntu-desktop.
[10:35] <IndyGunFreak> thats what i meant, sorry
[10:35] <IndyGunFreak> i guess it doesn't matter, end result is the same
[10:35] <Fujitsu> kubuntu-desktop depends on the entirety of KDE, so brings in more than just kde.
[10:36] <IndyGunFreak> Fujitsu: everyti8me i've installed kde using apt-get kde.., i got a zillion programs with it, it was definitely kubuntu in its entirety
[10:36] <Jimmey> What kind of cable do I need to be able to watch what's going on on my Xserver on my TV?
[10:36] <tritoch> Jimmey: depends on what kind of output/inputs you have
[10:38] <Jimmey> tritoch, I've got a nVidia FX5700LE, on the box next to "TV-Out", it says "DVI-I"
[10:38] <Jimmey> tritoch, but the card didn't come with any cables/adapters
[10:39] <tritoch> what does your tv have?
[10:39] <tritoch> for inputs
[10:39] <Jimmey> tritoch, scart, and normal AV
[10:40] <tritoch> sounds like you want a dvi-->scart ?
[10:40] <Fujitsu> tritoch: More likely S-VIDEO->SCART or normal AV.
[10:40] <aalhamad> I've installed vim-ruby but i can't make it work  plz help
[10:40] <Fujitsu> !doesn'twork
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <Fujitsu> !doesnt work
[10:40] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:41] <tritoch> hey i work hard on irc!
[10:41] <Fujitsu> aalhamad: ^^
[10:42] <Huffalump> What he wants is a new TV!
[10:45] <Cryoniq> !webcam
[10:45] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:48] <MrStein> where are the testing web pages ? (I see they wre screw.. err, resdesigned)
[10:49] <MrStein> What I want to know is , is "Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn" - Alpha i386 (20070215)"   Herd 4 or 3 ?
[10:50] <`nicola> which port does ubuntu remote desktop use ? I need to forward it because I'm behind a router
[10:50] <`nicola> for feisty you can try #ubuntu+1
[10:50] <Fujitsu> That's Herd 4, MrStein.
[10:51] <Cryoniq> What is the best webcam software to use under ubuntu edgy?
[10:51] <MrStein> Fujitsu:  thanks
[10:51] <MrStein> a table would come handy thou....
[10:51] <Flannel> !feisty | MrStein, check the schedule
[10:51] <ubotu> MrStein, check the schedule: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:51] <Cryoniq> If anyone have any suggestions around successfull applications that is :)
[10:52] <aalhamad> Fujitsu, yes im here
[10:52] <Flannel> Cryoniq: what sort of "Webcam" are we talking about?
[10:52] <aalhamad> Fujitsu, can you help me with my issue
[10:53] <aalhamad> i've install vim-ruby but i can't make them work with vim
[10:53] <xc_legend> hello
[10:53] <aalhamad> hello
[10:53] <Flannel> aalhamad: try also installing the full fledged "vim" package
[10:54] <xc_legend> i have a question concerning e17 and the update manager
[10:54] <aalhamad> i have that
[10:54] <MrStein> BTW, the Herd x links on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing are broken. I mean they require some password...
[10:54] <MrStein> bye
[10:55] <Flannel> xc_legend: e17 isn't in ubuntu.
[10:55] <xc_legend> i used a tutorial from the forums to install it
[10:56] <justin420> anybody know if there is a .deb for gspy for ubuntu? or is there another application that does the same thing?
[10:56] <Geak> can you please tell me whats the difference betwean edubuntu and ubuntu?
[10:59] <KDan> if i install something under "Program Files" under Wine, where does it actually go?
[10:59] <bero> sziasztok
[10:59] <KDan> (default location settings... or where's the config?)
[10:59] <Flannel> KDan: wine keeps it's own C drive in your home folder
[10:59] <MrStein> szevasz
[10:59] <Rooy> KDan: in ~/.wine/drive_c/Pro...
[10:59] <Fujitsu> KDan: ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files
[10:59] <Flannel> KDan: ~/.wine/drive_c/
[10:59] <xc_legend> flannel i am sorry the tutorial was from edbuntu i believe
[10:59] <bero> ez itt most mi a frsz?
[10:59] <xc_legend> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319336&highlight
[10:59] <KDan> cheers guys!
[10:59] <Flannel> !hu | bero
[10:59] <ubotu> bero: Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[10:59] <MrStein> ez itt egy "english only, please" csatorna ;-)
[10:59] <xc_legend> should i go to that channel?
[11:00] <bero> elnzst, ksznm!
[11:00] <xc_legend> but i am running e17 on 6.06
[11:00] <greenplastic> hi people
[11:00] <Flannel> xc_legend: What's your question about it?
[11:01] <greenplastic> i am searching for multitrack,multichanel recording program under edgy,i am using audacity,do you know another  ones?
[11:02] <xc_legend> should i use apt to do my system updates since uthe update manager is not appearing in the menus?
[11:02] <Flannel> xc_legend: You won't get any enlightenment updates.
[11:02] <Flannel> xc_legend: but, any package manager will be able to update your packages (synaptic is a gtk GUI one, adept is a qt based)
[11:02] <poningru> greenplastic: yes
[11:02] <poningru> greenplastic: jokosher
[11:02] <presario6131> hi there
[11:03] <presario6131> from italy
[11:03] <greenplastic> its name of program?
[11:03] <xc_legend> ok thanks that was my only question
[11:03] <xc_legend> thanks again
[11:03] <greenplastic> jokosher?
[11:03] <scv> is italy like a boot?
[11:03] <MaximusBrood> How would I search through all apps availible via apt-get?
[11:03] <Fujitsu> greenplastic: It is the name of an application, yes.
[11:03] <EADG> Geak: EUbuntu is a distro loaded up with Educational softwares... Ubuntu is the plain old vanilla release.
[11:04] <presario6131> yes it is WORST than a boot :)
[11:04] <Flannel> !info jokosher
[11:04] <ubotu> jokosher: simple and easy to use audio multi-tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 605 kB, installed size 1676 kB
[11:04] <greenplastic> mercy i'll try
[11:04] <scv> presario6131: I mean italy is like a boot on the map
[11:04] <presario6131> does anybody installed ubuntu on a preario turion ?
[11:04] <Fujitsu> EADG: Have you got a link for that?
[11:04] <presario6131> yes SCV, i was just kidding....
[11:05] <presario6131> the shape is like a boot
[11:05] <Rooy> scv and it gots a ball right on track :)
[11:05] <scv> presario6131: do you know what's corea looks like?
[11:05] <EADG> gimme a sec
[11:05] <presario6131> no scv
[11:05] <presario6131> i never figured out
[11:05] <scv> presario6131: a.... hahaha
[11:06] <Flannel> presario6131, scv, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[11:06] <presario6131> i've installed ubuntu on my old laptop
[11:06] <scv> oh, sorry
[11:06] <presario6131> it was an ASUS A2S
[11:06] <presario6131> and all was ok also with XGL and compiz
[11:07] <presario6131> but now, my new laptop...a presario 6131, is very bad ubuntu friendly
[11:07] <presario6131> does anybody tried to install it on this machine ?
[11:07] <EADG> Fujitsu: www.ubuntu.com   <--- start there
[11:08] <tombow> ooboontoo?
[11:08] <presario6131> googling around i cannot find anything about this issue...
[11:08] <presario6131> the graphic card (nvidia chipset) is not recognized by ubuntu on this laptop
[11:10] <kraut> moin
[11:10] <nugenoa> What does forked to the background me?
[11:10] <nugenoa> *mean
[11:10] <Fujitsu> EADG: You mean Edubuntu?
[11:10] <jpjacobs> nugenoa, that an app keeps running, but isn't running in foreground, so you can launch other things
[11:12] <EADG> same same
[11:12] <tombow> how come .Xdefaults isn't being read?
[11:12] <tombow> or is it only read on startup?
[11:13] <OuZo> hi, i get a error with mplayer Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. how can i fix this? thanks
[11:13] <MaximusBrood> What is a good rar utility to use? I've tried to get 'rar', but it isn't a package.
[11:14] <riaal> how can I see divx tumbnails in filebrowser? (playing them whit vlc) do I need some codec?
[11:17] <jenda> any idea how to send through scp all files in /home that don't start with a ".", and with three exceptions?
[11:18] <nugenoa> Thanks again jpjacobs. BTW: Are you in Japan?
[11:19] <EADG> MaximusBrood: Did you type 'sudo apt-get install unrar' ? Works for me.
[11:19] <etchris> Morning guys, Ive installed Beryl, but how can i make it so it starts up with my linux please?
[11:22] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:22] <milos> hi hi
[11:22] <rod> hi
[11:22] <Ace2016> can anyone give me a link with info on how to compile Xorg?
[11:23] <Ace2016> I compiled Xgl before but now i want to start with xorg, then xgl and then to beryl
[11:23] <rod> my dad has like 200 pictures on cd of his holiday... He wants to add comments to them and then watch the pictures including comments (somewhere in the picture) on his dvd player
[11:23] <bero> .
[11:24] <rod> is there an easy way to put comments into a picture?
[11:24] <Orta> hey guys, i installed bluej and i want to run it from the command line as "bluej" instead of "./bluej_dir/bluej". how do i do that?
[11:24] <MaximusBrood> EADG: I forgot to add universe repositories too my sources.list :)
[11:25] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm running a live CD trying to install onto a Raid0 array, using DMraid, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto - it all works, except for the fact that I can't do a apt-cdrom add - and don't want to download loads of packages to do the install, can anyone help?
[11:25] <Lattyware> It gives me the error: E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[11:26] <EADG> MaximusBrood: Oh dear.
[11:26] <Shaffox> how can you search wireless networks ?
[11:26] <EADG> MaximusBrood: All is good now I hope.
[11:26] <Shaffox> i have wireless card, how can i search the networks in my range?
[11:26] <MaximusBrood> 'rar' doesn't seem to support multifile archieves by itself, is there any way I'm still able to extract a two-file archieve?
[11:27] <Ace2016> Orta: make the file /usr/bin/bluej and then put in it: #!/bin/sh  (new line)  /bluej_dir/bluej "$@"
[11:27] <nitalaut> hello guys
[11:27] <Shaffox> MaximusBrood, install unrar :)
[11:27] <Ace2016> That should work
[11:27] <gn0me> Running any apt-get command except "upgrade" results in the following error: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." -- but when I do run dpkg --configure -a, it returns no output, and running any apt-get command again gives the error again. Is there some kind of lockfile I could get rid of or something to make dpkg restart on whatever package it's stuck on?
[11:27] <pitt0071> Shaffox: iwlist ethX scanning
[11:27] <MaximusBrood> Shaffox: Allright, will do.
[11:27] <Ace2016> bye all
[11:28] <nitalaut> is there any kind of PC emulators with GUI for ubuntu ?? I found qemu but it hasn't GUI =(
[11:28] <MrStein> any chance of NTFS r/w in feisty ?
[11:28] <EADG> MaximusBrood: unrar -e filename.rar
[11:28] <jrib> !ntfs-3g | MrStein
[11:28] <ubotu> MrStein: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:28] <nitalaut> ntfs3g
[11:29] <MrStein> nitalaut: tried VirtualBox ? It is free as in GPL. I don't know if it is packaged for Ubuntu
[11:29] <mattyv> nitalaut: vmware-player is one
[11:29] <MrStein> let me refrase: Will Feisty have or have not ntfs r/w support ? As is "having",  not "being able to download and do it yourself".
[11:30] <MrStein> is=in
[11:30] <jrib> MrStein: feisty support is in #ubuntu+1
[11:30] <Craeo> Greetings, how would I go about editing my partition, I have some unallocated space that I want added to my NTFS partition but can't seem to find a workable partition manager under Ubuntu. Am I over looking something?
[11:30] <MrStein> jrib: opps, soory.
[11:30] <Lattyware> Craeo: gparted
[11:30] <Craeo> GParted, do I install that with Synaptic?
[11:31] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm running a live CD trying to install onto a Raid0 array, using DMraid, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto - it all works, except for the fact that I can't do a apt-cdrom add - and don't want to download loads of packages to do the install, can anyone help? It gives me the error: E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[11:31] <Lattyware> Craeo: Yeah, it's the one used in the installer.
[11:31] <nitalaut> MrStein, thanks, it seems virtualbox it that what i need, already downloading
[11:31] <Craeo> Lattyware: Is it installed by default or do I need to install it manually?
[11:32] <MetaMorfoziS> what i need, if i have two network interface, and i want something like dhcp server, that automatically manages the ipadresses for the connecting clients
[11:32] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[11:32] <Lattyware> Craeo: you need to install it manually, unless you are running the live CD
[11:32] <Lattyware> synaptic with a search for gparted should do it.
[11:32] <Craeo> Lattyware: Thanks for the info, I will put it to good use
[11:32] <sonium> does someone know how I can forward sound output from windows to a esound server?
[11:33] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm running a live CD trying to install onto a Raid0 array, using DMraid, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto - it all works, except for the fact that I can't do a apt-cdrom add - and don't want to download loads of packages to do the install, can anyone help? It gives me the error: E: Failed to mount the cdrom. - Also note I can't boot my original install on my IDE drives, becau
[11:33] <Lattyware> se it crashes every time I try and boot into it since I added my SATA Hard/DVD drives.
[11:34] <me-> ive installed the nvida driver but when i restart my pc i get always only the console. kde doesnt start... so i have to install the nvidia driver everytime at startup to get my kde loaded. can anyone help me pls?
[11:37] <bieniu> Hi all
[11:37] <etchris> Morning
[11:37] <bieniu> someone from poland?
[11:37] <ompaul> !pl
[11:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:39] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm running a live CD trying to install onto a Raid0 array, using DMraid, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto - it all works, except for the fact that I can't do a apt-cdrom add - and don't want to download loads of packages to do the install, can anyone help? It gives me the error: E: Failed to mount the cdrom. - Also note I can't boot my original install on my IDE drives, becau
[11:39] <Lattyware> se it crashes every time I try and boot into it since I added my SATA Hard/DVD drives.
[11:39] <Orta> hey guys, i installed bluej and i want to run it from the command line as "bluej" instead of "./bluej_dir/bluej". how do i do that? beware, i'm no expert... thanks
[11:40] <jrib> Orta: the easiest way would be to create a symlink in /usr/local/bin .  If you want to understand more, google for "linux path"
[11:41] <clarkphp> me-: If you hit http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ and click the tag cloud tag "nvidia", you may find a decent starting place for solving your problem.  I don't know how to help, myself.  Good luck with it.
[11:41] <Orta> what would a symlink be?
[11:41] <jrib> Orta: ln -s TARGET NAME
[11:41] <Lattyware> Orta: Think Shortcut.
[11:41] <Orta> i thought about that tbh
[11:42] <me-> clarkphp: ty
[11:42] <Andeh> I finally got beryl up and running!
[11:42] <unop> Orta,  you might want to add ./bluej_dir to your path ..  export PATH=$PATH:./bluej_dir
[11:42] <Andeh> Tho i used a script :P
[11:43] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm running a live CD trying to install onto a Raid0 array, using DMraid, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto - it all works, except for the fact that I can't do a apt-cdrom add - and don't want to download loads of packages to do the install, can anyone help? It gives me the error: E: Failed to mount the cdrom. - Also note I can't boot my original install on my IDE drives, becau
[11:43] <Lattyware> se it crashes every time I try and boot into it since I added my SATA Hard/DVD drives.
[11:44] <Orta> let's see...
[11:44] <Orta> I will re-install bluej and go from tehre
[11:46] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm running an edgy live CD trying to install onto a Raid0 array, using DMraid, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto - it all works, except for the fact that I can't do a apt-cdrom add - and don't want to download loads of packages to do the install, can anyone help? It gives me the error: E: Failed to mount the cdrom. - Also note I can't boot my original install on my IDE drives,
[11:46] <Lattyware>  because it crashes every time I try and boot into it since I added my SATA Hard/DVD drives.
[11:46] <Orta> is /usr/lib/bluej a recommendable location?
[11:46] <Wooksta> "/dev/hdb1       /media/200gig   defaults                0       0"  <--- any reason this line wouldn't work when the mount point & hd / partition are correct?  (i dont seem to get any errors on boot up, is there a log from failed fstab attempts?
[11:47] <Lattyware> Wooksta: Where is the filesystem?
[11:47] <Lattyware> ext3? fatx?
[11:47] <Wooksta> hmm good point lol
[11:47] <Wooksta> doh!
[11:47] <Wooksta> its ext3
[11:47] <Lattyware> lol.
[11:48] <Wooksta> jesus sorry, slow this morning :D
[11:48] <Lattyware> NP - I've done similar.
[11:48] <Lattyware> Now I have to wait 2 hours to download packages I allready have.
[11:48] <Lattyware> ugh
[11:48] <kingrayray> I LOVE THAT
[11:48] <kingrayray> lol
[11:48] <clarkphp> Lattyware: Wish I knew what to tell you; is it possible to contact the author of the guide?  I'm sure you've looked in other forums, too.
[11:49] <Lattyware> clarkphp: Yeah, But contacting the author will take longer than just downloading the packages.
[11:50] <Lattyware> I never thought setting up 1TB of hard disks would become this hard :/
[11:50] <clarkphp> Lattyware: Oh.  True.  If you need a quick solution, I'm afraid I'm not the one to ask this morning.
[11:50] <Lattyware> heh
[11:50] <Lattyware> At least the SATA DVD drives worked fine from the word go.
[11:51] <Lattyware> Now I have two writers, at 16x. Much better than one at 8X
[11:51] <colo_intevo> Lattyware: why are you fiddling around with dmraid?
[11:51] <colo_intevo> do you have windoze installed in parallel?
[11:51] <Lattyware> I will do.
[11:51] <colo_uni> poor soul
[11:52] <Lattyware> Unfortunately, as much as I hate to dirty the PC with windows, there are a few things I just hate trying to do in Linux.
[11:52] <Lattyware> One being getting Video on my ipod.
[11:52] <Lattyware> two being playing games. Wine works to an extent, but still.
[11:53] <aspetos> hi, is there a gui to edit fstab?
[11:53] <Lattyware> I use Ubuntu for 99% of stuff though.
[11:53] <Lattyware> aspetos: Why bother? It's easy enough.
[11:53] <infidel> when did they change modtools to module-init-tools?
[11:54] <Lattyware> colo_intevo: If I didn't have windows aswell, what would be the alternative?
[11:54] <aspetos> Lattyware cause i see the uuid entries on the default fstab and i'm wondering if there might be some aytomations from the distro that like that format
[11:55] <pixi> cool
[11:55] <Rooy> aspetos: no, uuid is permanent and unique, therefore it's used to point to /, not the /dev/hda* stuff
[11:56] <Nookie> has anyone managed to install this theme? http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus+%28Gentoo+ebuild%29?content=54702
[11:57] <aspetos> so there is no danger in puttint plain old /dev/sda1 etc entries in fstab
[11:57] <aspetos> because the default entries i'm seeing have uuid as the first part of the line
[11:57] <ompaul> aspetos, why not system -> administration -> disks
[11:58] <Rooy> aspetos: if you don't bring the drive to another comp where it may become sdc or smt else
[11:58] <aspetos> ompaul i dont have such an entry under system-> administration. what do i search for in synaptic to install that utility?
[11:58] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm running an edgy live CD trying to install onto a Raid0 array, using DMraid, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto - it all works, except for the fact that I can't do a apt-cdrom add - and don't want to download loads of packages to do the install, can anyone help? It gives me the error: E: Failed to mount the cdrom. - Also note I can't boot my original install on my IDE drives,
[11:59] <Lattyware>  because it crashes every time I try and boot into it since I added my SATA Hard/DVD drives.
[11:59] <ompaul> aspetos, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:59] <aspetos> 6.10
[11:59] <aspetos> desktop
[11:59] <aspetos> ompaul 6.10 desktop
[11:59] <ompaul> aspetos, hang on until I boot a laptop with that
[12:00] <aspetos> :)
[12:00] <ompaul> battery flat back in three
[12:00] <etchris> Guys, how do i make Beryl startup with ubuntu?
[12:00] <HONKyTONK> Wow! Nice support channel here ;)
[12:00] <Lattyware> etchris, System -> Prefs -> Sessions
[12:01] <aspetos> etchris you go to system -
[12:01] <Lattyware> Then add 'beryl-manager'
[12:01] <twager> Anyone know if the md5sum generated by k3b needs to be checked against the md5sum file or is it correct ?
[12:01] <aspetos> etchris you go to system -> preferences-> Sessions and put beryl-manager on the programs
[12:01] <etchris> Lattyware, Argh i only missed out the -
[12:01] <Lattyware> heh
[12:01] <aspetos> and i was overtaken by Lattyware (-:
[12:02] <etchris> hehe
[12:02] <Lattyware> lol
[12:02] <Lattyware> denied.
[12:02] <Lattyware> :P
[12:02] <aspetos> heh
[12:02] <MartinE> Hi all
[12:02] <MartinE> Can someone tell me how to install an nvidia video card driver as I'm a noob!
[12:03] <HONKyTONK> Hey MartinE
[12:03] <MartinE> hi
[12:03] <HONKyTONK> There are a lot of "HowTo's"
[12:03] <HONKyTONK> Wait, I'm searching for a very good one for you...
[12:03] <MartinE> i thought this was going to be complicated
[12:03] <Rooy> MartinE: open a terminal and execute :"sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx"
[12:04] <[WaZ] > anyone been able to set beryl on dual monitors with ATI/XGL?
[12:04] <HONKyTONK> ;) Thank ya rooy
[12:04] <MartinE> I downloaded the nvidia driver from the nvidia website
[12:04] <jpjacobs> !nvidia>MartinE
[12:04] <MartinE> was this the correct thing to do?
[12:04] <MartinE> !nvidia
[12:04] <[WaZ] > im using xinerama for dual monitors and the fglrx driver
[12:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:04] <Lattyware> [WaZ] : I've done it with an nVidia card.
[12:04] <[WaZ] > Lattyware: yeah I know it works on nvidia
[12:04] <foutrelis> MartinE: There are basically 3 steps :)
[12:04] <[WaZ] > but session crashes on fglrx
[12:05] <MartinE> ok
[12:05] <MartinE> carry on
[12:05] <impact> hi
[12:05] <impact> this sounds a  little bit stupid, I cannot remember if I installed 64 bit or 32 bit version of ubuntu. What is the easiest way to find that out?
[12:05] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm running an edgy live CD trying to install onto a Raid0 array, using DMraid, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto - it all works, except for the fact that I can't do a apt-cdrom add - and don't want to download loads of packages to do the install, can anyone help? It gives me the error: E: Failed to mount the cdrom. - Also note I can't boot my original install on my IDE drives,
[12:05] <Lattyware>  because it crashes every time I try and boot into it since I added my SATA Hard/DVD drives.
[12:05] <foutrelis> MartinE: First you stop gdm by running sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (don't do that now)
[12:05] <MartinE> ok
[12:05] <MartinE> what is gdm?
[12:06] <[WaZ] > Gnome Desktop Manager
[12:06] <ompaul> aspetos, system preferences removable drives and media
[12:06] <MartinE> k
[12:06] <Lattyware> impact: What CPU do you have?
[12:06] <juan_> buenos dias
[12:06] <MartinE> but not yet?
[12:06] <impact> dual core opterons
[12:06] <foutrelis> MartinE: Next you [apt-get install build-essential]  and [apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common] 
[12:07] <foutrelis> MartinE: Write down these steps cause you will get into command line after stopping gdm :)
[12:07] <MartinE> foutrelis, where do i type those commands into, a terminal window?
[12:07] <Lattyware> impact: I'm pretty sure they are 64bit, so you can install either version, 32 bit has better support and apps, 64 has better speed.
[12:07] <foutrelis> MartinE: Yep
[12:07] <MartinE> without the brackets?
[12:07] <impact> that is not the problem
[12:07] <etchris> Ok....I added that beryl-manager line to startup, then when i rebooted, all icons off desktop disappear, and upon load it opens my home folder like 7 times
[12:07] <foutrelis> MartinE: Yep
[12:07] <impact> I have already installed xubuntu
[12:07] <impact> but I cannot remember which version ;(
[12:08] <foutrelis> MartinE: Last step is to run the nvidia installer you downloaded from nvidia.com
[12:08] <Lattyware> oh, right.
[12:08] <MartinE> how do i run it. its not a .deb file
[12:08] <aspetos> ompaul i believe that is for hotplug devices and actions to be automatically executed when plugged in. what i had in mind is the scenario where one edits her hard disks with something like gparted and then wants to have the new prtition(s) mounted after reboot
[12:08] <HONKyTONK> Is there a translator for ubunutu available...like Babylon for Windowsj???
[12:08] <impact> and my kernel is 2.6.16.-11-generic
[12:08] <foutrelis> MartinE: You [cd directory_where_you_saved_the_nvidia_installer] 
[12:09] <[WaZ] > MartinE: sudo ./file
[12:09] <impact> so it does not impl that it is amd64
[12:09] <MartinE> its on the desktop
[12:09] <Lattyware> impact: Ah, then it'll be 32bit, I think. 64bit would be named differently.
[12:09] <Lattyware> I'm not 100% sure though.
[12:09] <MartinE> I'm a bit confused as to what steps to do first now!
[12:09] <[WaZ] > Lattyware: correct
[12:10] <[WaZ] > MartinE you should just follow a tutorial
[12:10] <Rooy> impact: the generic kernel replace x86_64 kernel (saw that in Synaptic description)
[12:10] <MartinE> the tutorial link is not for my video card. I have a 7600
[12:10] <foutrelis> MartinE: Stop gdm, [apt-get install build-essential]  and [apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common] , and then run the nvidia installer :)
[12:10] <[WaZ] > MartinE just a sec
[12:10] <impact> the origin of my problem is something different: I tried to install VMWare Server, and I get a strange error message with the config script ...
[12:10] <MartinE> k
[12:11] <MartinE> is there mirc for ubuntu as I'm doing this on my windows pc
[12:11] <impact> according to the inet, multilib support is missing. But multilib is only needed if I have amd64, or am I missing the point?
[12:11] <[WaZ] > MartinE: yes
[12:11] <Rooy> MartinE: there's xchat for IRC
[12:11] <[WaZ] > MartinE: install X-chat
[12:11] <MartinE> that simple?
[12:12] <krzysiek> jest kto z Polski?
[12:12] <worzl> nope xD
[12:12] <foutrelis> MartinE: The PC you're talking from now is the same with the PC you 'll install the nvidia drivers?
[12:12] <MartinE> no
[12:12] <HONKyTONK> No Dictionary's or Texttranslators AV for ubuntu???
[12:12] <ompaul> aspetos, have a look at endeavour2 I am not saying it is what you want but it might work
[12:12] <MartinE> I wanted to be able to chat with you guys from my ubuntu pc
[12:13] <ompaul> !pl
[12:13] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:13] <[WaZ] > Martin-E: in terminal: sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[12:13] <MartinE> I tried the install x-chat but get an error. something to do with destination
[12:13] <me-> does anyone know how to execute "/sbin/modprobe -a nvidia" before kdm starts?
[12:13] <aspetos> ok, thanks for the effor ompaul :)
[12:14] <enyc> me-:  i would think nvidia module is loaded autematically when X server starts the nvidia driver
[12:14] <me-> sry "/sbin/modprobe -r nvidia" i mean
[12:14] <me-> enyc: not by me :(
[12:14] <enyc> me-: hrrm remove the module?
[12:14] <enyc> me-: well i dont see why youd want that...
[12:15] <enyc> me-: reconfigure the xserver so it doesn't use the nvidia binary driver?
[12:15] <[WaZ] > MartinE_ worked?
[12:15] <MartinE_> hi
[12:16] <MartinE_> now i'm on my ubuntu pc
[12:16] <MartinE_> excellent!
[12:16] <MartinE_> now can you very helpful people help me with this video driver
[12:17] <foutrelis> MartinE: I tried but I guess I'm not very good at tutoring.. : (
[12:17] <enyc> me-: if you want to switch between the "nv" driver (no 3d acceleration, does not need the nvidia module) and the "nvidia" driver... use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:17] <MartinE_> now i'm on the correct pc, can you run through it again for me please?
[12:17] <enyc> me-: if you really want to stop a module loading at all I think you can put it in a modules "blacklist" somewhere
[12:17] <[WaZ] > MartinE_ why didn't it work exactly?
[12:18] <nugenoa> If I have a winxp pc and a ubuntu pc, and I connect them to each other with lan, can I share files?
[12:18] <enyc> nugenoa: yes
[12:18] <MartinE_> the driver i donwloaded from nvidia won't open
[12:18] <kenthomson> I LOVE the new ubuntu website! ;-)
[12:18] <MartinE_> cz i don't know what i'm doing
[12:18] <foutrelis> MartinE: I'll try. But I think it would be better if you were on your other pc, so when gdm is stopped we could still talk.
[12:18] <[WaZ] > nugenoa: you need so install SAMBA
[12:18] <MartinE_> im a windows man!
[12:18] <enyc> nugenoa: gnome/nautilus can connect to samba shares provided by windows
[12:19] <MartinE_> ok foutrelis
[12:19] <neonlinux> hey all, having problems seeing hdd temp.. i have smartmon tools and hddtemp installed.. using feisty. i can see it under dapper. any ideas?
[12:19] <MartinE_> i'll go back to the other pc
[12:19] <enyc> nugenoa: ubuntu can have samba installed, and folders shared.. you need to create an "smbpasswd" for the user... so you ccan then connect to it over the network from windows machine too
[12:19] <foutrelis> MartinE: Great. ^.^
[12:19] <lisapc> is there any way I can copy files from my ubuntu ext3 to my NTFS partition?
[12:19] <rambo3> !ntfs | lisapc
[12:19] <ubotu> lisapc: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:20] <MartinE> ok
[12:20] <[WaZ] > MartinE_ might want to "sudo chmod 777 file"
[12:20] <CheshireViking> HONKyTONK, have you looked in Synaptic for translation software, there's something called libtranslat0 and gnome-translate which is a graphical front end that says it translates text or webpages
[12:20] <foutrelis> MartinE: Open a terminal and write sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:20] <rambo3> lisapc, there is write support for ntfs
[12:20] <lisapc> rambo3, does it corrupt the NTFS partition?
[12:20] <lisapc> !ntfs-3g
[12:20] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:21] <rambo3> !ntfs-3g | lisapc
[12:21] <ubotu> lisapc: please see above
[12:21] <[WaZ] > brb
[12:21] <MartinE> done foutrelis
[12:21] <foutrelis> MartinE: Next, after X is shutdown, login in the command promt with your username and password
[12:21] <krzysiek> I search for for internet camera controller WCam 300A
[12:21] <foutrelis> MartinE: And do: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:22] <MartinE> i just have a flashing cursor at the top
[12:22] <foutrelis> MartinE: It says "login:"?
[12:22] <MartinE> no
[12:22] <krzysiek> I search for for internet camera controller WCam 300A
[12:22] <foutrelis> MartinE: ctrl+alt+f1
[12:22] <kenthomson> HELP; Can't play VCDs. I have installed all the codecs at the restrictedFormats page. I have gxine, mplayer, vlc, totem. All fail to play a VCD. When i browse through nautilus to a VCD->Mpegav->Avesaq1.dat, and when i right click that .dat file it suddenly changes icon to become a icon of text-file. When i right-click to see open-with, it displays all text-editors on my system to open that file (ubuntu thinks its text). I can't copy-paste the file to
[12:22] <kenthomson>  my HDD, it tells me that it can't read from source. This happens with ALL the VCDs. I than have to reboot into windows, copy the .dat file to HDD, and than boot back into ubuntu and play it with any of the players-than it works like a charm. Is there someway i can prevent rebooting into windows just to copy the VCD file to my HDD to play it? (thats the only thing that i use windows for nowadays). Please help, this is a seriously annoying problem!!!
[12:23] <MartinE> ok, logged in now
[12:23] <sdac221x_> hi what is  the easiest way to get extended desktop on edgy, for new linux users.   I have ati card .  Is there a way without messing with xorg.conf
[12:23] <krzysiek> If (or) anybody < somebody > can help me ??
[12:23] <foutrelis> MartinE: Great. Now: do: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:23] <foutrelis> MartinE: And: apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common
[12:24] <kenthomson> Someone please HELP!
[12:24] <ilmedita> somebody set the ATI card X1400 on fiesty ?
[12:24] <MartinE> sudo apt-get or just apt-get?
[12:24] <krzysiek> I  search for for internet camera controller WCam 300A
[12:24] <rambo3> I ain't reading all that
[12:24] <foutrelis> MartinE: Sorry. sudo apt-get
[12:24] <kenthomson> foutrelis, please suggest people to use aptitude
[12:24] <kenthomson> !aptitude
[12:24] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:25] <MartinE> done
[12:25] <nugenoa> enyc, Thank you!
[12:25] <foutrelis> MartinE: Now cd /home/(your username here)/Desktop
[12:26] <kenthomson> Someone please please help me play a VCD ;-(
[12:26] <foutrelis> MartinE: and sudo sh NVIDI (press tab to auto compete the filenme)
[12:26] <MartinE> no such file or directory
[12:26] <foutrelis> *filename
[12:26] <MartinE> cant cd to that location
[12:26] <foutrelis> MartinE: cd ~/Desktop ?
[12:26] <tdn> I have a system on which when one user logs in, she gets this error message: The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly. You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it. Or you can restart the application right now. [Restart app.]  [close]  [inform developers] .
[12:26] <sdac221x_> pleas reply if anyone can see this message.  I'm afraid my posts seem to have been invisible for over a week.
[12:26] <lisapc> whats more stable and safe?  copying from ubuntu using ntfs3g or copying from vista using ext2fsd?
[12:27] <tdn> What can be causing this?
[12:27] <foutrelis> sdac221x_: it's visible
[12:27] <tdn> How do I debug it?
[12:27] <rambo3> tdn is it from the last session ?
[12:27] <kenthomson> tdn, have you put in any programs for that user in System>preferences>sessions, startup Programs? Or are you having multiple instances of X running?
[12:28] <sdac221x_> fourtrelis:  ok thanks
[12:28] <infidel> !gnome
[12:28] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:28] <tdn> kenthomson, no.
[12:28] <tdn> rambo3, what do you mean?
[12:28] <kenthomson> tdn, thats all i know
[12:28] <tdn> kenthomson, ok. Do you have any idea how to debug it?
[12:28] <foutrelis> MartinE: How are you doing?
[12:28] <kenthomson> tdn, are you loggin-out-in at that computer
[12:28] <rambo3> tdn cleaning nautilus cache maby
[12:29] <kenthomson> tdn, Do you get it even after a fresh restart
[12:29] <lisapc> whats more stable and safe?  copying from ubuntu using ntfs3g or copying from vista using ext2fsd?
[12:29] <tdn> rambo3, how do I do this? Remember that I cannot log in with this user in X. So I will have to do it from another user (using sudo) or from the console.
[12:30] <rambo3> tdn every use has .nautilus dir , and in it is saved sessions
[12:30] <rambo3> delete them
[12:30] <tdn> kenthomson, yes. I have both restarted the machine and even rebooted it several times. It makes no difference.
[12:30] <kenthomson> lisapc, i would consider ntfs-3g to be pretty safe. You can use it if you are not associated with the NASA gathering intelligence from the Hubble Telescope!
[12:30] <MartinE> driver installed foutrelis, I think
[12:30] <MartinE> do i need to reboot now?
[12:30] <tdn> rambo3, so I just need to delete all of the dir ~/.nautilus?
[12:30] <infidel> anyone know about upgrading gnome in edgy to 2.18?
[12:30] <foutrelis> MartinE: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:30] <P5YCH0> hey guys
[12:30] <kenthomson> tdn, sorry don't know anything mroe
[12:30] <Fujitsu> infidel: Don't even try.
[12:30] <rambo3> tdn not the dir session files in it
[12:31] <tdn> kenthomson, ok.
[12:31] <P5YCH0> im down with the lastest fashion the newst fashion style
[12:31] <P5YCH0> straight out of hollywood
[12:31] <kenthomson> !hi | P5YCH0
[12:31] <ubotu> P5YCH0: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:31] <P5YCH0> i walk around naked with nothing but a condom on
[12:31] <P5YCH0> its the best style ever
[12:31] <kenthomson> !language | P5YCH0
[12:31] <P5YCH0> sometimes you can wear it rugged
[12:31] <ubotu> P5YCH0: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:31] <tdn> rambo3, which files are session files? Should I just do a rm ~/.nautilus/* ?
[12:31] <P5YCH0> like u can wear the condom half way
[12:31] <infidel> Fujitsu, did you?
[12:31] <P5YCH0> or full way its the fashion
[12:31] <P5YCH0> >=|
[12:31] <MartinE> excellent
[12:31] <sdac221x_> where is the main xorg.conf stored ?
[12:31] <MartinE> thanks so much four
[12:31] <MartinE> foutrelis rather!
[12:32] <rambo3> tdn rm -rf ~/.nautilus/s*
[12:32] <kenthomson> P5YCH0, this is a support channel for ubuntu-linux, could you please discuss this somewhere else?
[12:32] <foutrelis> MartinE: Did it work ok? :)
[12:32] <P5YCH0> why did bring your family
[12:32] <P5YCH0> on irc
[12:32] <P5YCH0> >=|
[12:32] <MartinE> do you know anything about Linux MCE ?
[12:32] <P5YCH0> in this same chan is this some kind perverted thing
[12:32] <P5YCH0> actually
[12:32] <P5YCH0> i have a hardware error so RARE
[12:32] <kenthomson> !ops | P5YCH0
[12:32] <ubotu> P5YCH0: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[12:32] <foutrelis> !ops | P5YCH0 is not cool :\
[12:32] <ubotu> P5YCH0 is not cool :\: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[12:32] <tdn> rambo3, ok. Thanks.
[12:32] <P5YCH0> only tech exports
[12:32] <P5YCH0> will be able to assist
[12:32] <P5YCH0> any techs here
[12:33] <rambo3> tdn tell if it worked
[12:33] <etchris> P5YCH0, Theres some hence a support channel.....
[12:33] <etchris> Hah
[12:33] <foutrelis> MartinE: Sorry I don't know anything about MCE :(
[12:33] <kenthomson> Can someone help me with the VCD problem, please?
[12:34] <tdn> rambo3, I will.
[12:34] <Rooy> kenthomson: what's the trouble?
[12:35] <kenthomson> HELP; Can't play VCDs. I have installed all the codecs at the restrictedFormats page. I have gxine, mplayer, vlc, totem. All fail to play a VCD. When i browse through nautilus to a VCD->Mpegav->Avesaq1.dat, and when i right click that .dat file it suddenly changes icon to become a icon of text-file. When i right-click to see open-with, it displays all text-editors on my system to open that file (ubuntu thinks its text). I can't copy-paste the file to
 my HDD, it tells me that it can't read from source. This happens with ALL the VCDs. I than have to reboot into windows, copy the .dat file to HDD, and than boot back into ubuntu and play it with any of the players-than it works like a charm. Is there someway i can prevent rebooting into windows just to copy the VCD file to my HDD to play it? (thats the only thing that i use windows for nowadays). Please help, this is a seriously annoying
[12:35] <kenthomson>  problem!!!
[12:35] <MartinE> foutrelis, how do i get thes ubuntu pc on my mshome network?
[12:35] <kenthomson> Rooy, thats it!
[12:35] <kenthomson> !samba | Marsmensch
[12:35] <ubotu> Marsmensch: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:35] <kenthomson> !samba | MartinE
[12:35] <ubotu> MartinE: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:35] <foutrelis> kenthomson ^.^
[12:36] <sdac221x_> i found  the following xorg files : xorg.xonf, xorg.conf.fglrx-0, xorg.conf.fglrx-1, xorg.conf.fglrx-2   which one do i edit ??
[12:36] <kenthomson> foutrelis, ;)
[12:36] <Rooy> kenthomson: truely wierd :)
[12:36] <kenthomson> sdac221x_, xorg.conf for X-configuration
[12:36] <pixi> nerdlanguage for "haven't got a clue"
[12:36] <lisapc> kenthomson, i work for NASA
[12:36] <lisapc> !ntfs-3g
[12:36] <kenthomson> Rooy, is there anything beyond that?
[12:36] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:36] <rambo3> one again i ain't reading all that
[12:36] <sdac221x_> kenthomson:  ok thanks, i wont mess with the fglrx ones then
[12:36] <kenthomson> lisapc, You wake up now?
[12:37] <Rooy> kenthomson: not any idea from me :(
[12:37] <lisapc> kenthomson, no :)Zzzz
[12:37] <kenthomson> sdac221x_, remember that you can easily loose X, if you mess that file
[12:38] <sdac221x_> ok i backed up.   im editing it to make extended desktop work
[12:38] <kenthomson> someone please help me with VCD prob ;(
[12:39] <MartinE_> !samba
[12:39] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:39] <foutrelis> kenthomson: What is the problem?
[12:40] <kenthomson> HELP; Can't play VCDs. I have installed all the codecs at the restrictedFormats page. I have gxine, mplayer, vlc, totem. All fail to play a VCD. When i browse through nautilus to a VCD->Mpegav->Avesaq1.dat, and when i right click that .dat file it suddenly changes icon to become a icon of text-file. When i right-click to see open-with, it displays all text-editors on my system to open that file (ubuntu thinks its text). I can't copy-paste the file to
  my HDD, it tells me that it can't read from source. This happens with ALL the VCDs. I than have to reboot into windows, copy the .dat file to HDD, and than boot back into ubuntu and play it with any of the players-than it works like a charm. Is there someway i can prevent rebooting into windows just to copy the VCD file to my HDD to play it? (thats the only thing that i use windows for nowadays). Please help, this is a seriously annoyin
[12:40] <kenthomson> g problem!!!
[12:40] <jpjacobs> MartinE_, if it's for own use, better use "/msg ubotu !samba", that keeps the channel a bit quieter
[12:40] <kenthomson> foutrelis, there you go
[12:40] <jpjacobs> a bit more quiet*
[12:40] <rambo3> kenthomson, http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/10/how-to-play-vcd-dat-files-using.html
[12:42] <foutrelis> kenthomson: Strange problem. You can play .dat files on the hdd but not on the cd rom :S
[12:42] <kenthomson> rambo3, i could kiss you if that advice works, let me try
[12:42] <MartinE_> this smb thing is real complicated
[12:42] <MartinE_> I only want ubuntu to see my other window pc's hard drives
[12:42] <kenthomson> foutrelis, yeah absolutely strange
[12:43] <rambo3> maby couse you mounted cd
[12:43] <Fujitsu> MartinE_: That's very simple. Just open up a filebrowser and enter `smb://server/c$'. That will give you C:
[12:44] <MartinE_> what does the //server mean?
[12:44] <foutrelis> kenthomson: from what I understand, ubuntu can't read from the cd. that's the only logical explanation
[12:44] <MartinE_> i want it on my mshome network
[12:44] <kenthomson> rambo3, telling me?
[12:44] <kenthomson> foutrelis, but that occurs with ALL the VCDS, which than need to be manually copies through windows to HDD, and than re-reboot to ubuntu to play it
[12:45] <kenthomson> rambo3, its not working ;(
[12:45] <foutrelis> kenthomson: for some odd reason, ubuntu dislikes vcds :)
[12:46] <GaiaX11> Which is the best jabber chat? I am using gabber, but it does not have option to open tabs in the same window. That's a pity!
[12:46] <foutrelis> kenthomson: other cds work fine?
[12:46] <kenthomson> foutrelis, that could he potentially disastorous for its measly survival amongst the Monolithic VISTA ;(
[12:46] <kenthomson> foutrelis, they work ABSOLUTELY fine
[12:47] <Bieniu> !pl
[12:47] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:48] <foutrelis> brb
[12:48] <mazaredo> h
[12:50] <Lord_Illidan> Hi
[12:51] <foutrelis> kenthomson: just confirmed your issue. I can't play vcds either :S
[12:51] <AndrewFelix> Hi All
[12:51] <darkcommon> how to download feisty? in spanish
[12:52] <kenthomson> foutrelis, we all cant
[12:53] <kenthomson> foutrelis, try this "mplayer   vcd://1" and "mplayer   -cdrom-device   /dev/cdrom   vcd://1" Can you NOW?
[12:53] <foutrelis> I don't have mplayer :(
[12:53] <thcmonkey> i worked out to add 1280x1024 that i add it to depth 24 - where do i add 1680x1050?
[12:53] <kenthomson> foutrelis, i can't even with that, player pops a black window for a sec, and than tells me End-of-file, and nothing, it disappears, no playback
[12:53] <AndrewFelix> who here knows a thing about wireless?
[12:54] <kenthomson> !wireless | AndrewFelix
[12:54] <ubotu> AndrewFelix: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:54] <enyc> AndrewFelix: hrrrm you will find info on wiki pages...
[12:54] <coffeegrinds> i just swappped video cards, how do i reconfigure x?
[12:54] <foutrelis> kenthomson: I'm looking at this atm http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318481
[12:54] <thcmonkey> i worked out to add 1280x1024 that i add it to depth 24 - where do i add 1680x1050?
[12:54] <thcmonkey> woops
[12:54] <thcmonkey> didn't mean to send that again
[12:54] <kenthomson> coffeegrinds, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <kenthomson> foutrelis, let me look at it too
[12:55] <kenthomson> foutrelis, did you try my above advice?
[12:55] <coffeegrinds> kenthompson: thanks
[12:55] <kenthomson> coffeegrinds, :)
[12:55] <etchris> Anyone help with Java?
[12:55] <foutrelis> kenthomson: I don't have mplayer. let me upt-get it
[12:56] <thcmonkey> does no one know?
[12:56] <kenthomson> foutrelis, HOLY COW! "mplayer vcd://2" this works! but the sound is garbled, i have to mute it and listen
[12:56] <foutrelis> kenthomson: holly cow.. lol ^.^
[12:57] <AlbertK> hi, can anybody tell me an easy to use ftp-client ?
[12:57] <etchris> If I need JRE 1.4.x, Which version of java would i install from the package manager?
[12:57] <pochi__> lftp
[12:57] <Gurpartap> is there an application to install fonts using it? for gnome?
[12:57] <teh_pox> Filezilla for me
[12:57] <AlbertK> thx you two
[12:58] <AlbertK> filezilla ist
[12:58] <AlbertK> filezilla is stable?
[12:58] <foutrelis> filezilla rules
[12:58] <teh_pox> hell yah
[12:58] <AlbertK> got it
[12:58] <etchris> If I need JRE 1.4.x, Which version of java would i install from the package manager?
[12:58] <teh_pox> you wouldn't
[12:58] <teh_pox> because java is evil
[12:58] <teh_pox> >_>
[12:58] <kenthomson> AlbertK, sudo aptitude install gftp
[12:58] <teh_pox> not gftp
[12:58] <teh_pox> gftp is clumsy
[12:58] <pjv> what
[12:59] <kenthomson> teh_pox, java is NOT evil!!!
[12:59] <netcrash_> !offtopic
[12:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:59] <pjv> err is there an flv player for linux?
[12:59] <AlbertK> kenthomson: i just  tried it, but it seems to wide-ranged. i just want to upload files on my arcor-homepage
[12:59] <pixi> doesn't vlc play flv?
[12:59] <etchris> teh_pox, Yeah but i need it :P
[12:59] <teh_pox> firefox? :P
[12:59] <foutrelis> pjv: you can convert it with ffmpeg :)
[12:59] <teh_pox> hmm
[12:59] <kenthomson> AlbertK, put in ftp in add/remove
[12:59] <Fujitsu> pjv: mplayer can do it.
[12:59] <teh_pox> i'm new to *buntu
[12:59] <Fujitsu> Probably vlc too.
[12:59] <pixi> pjv: use vlc
[12:59] <teh_pox> what does "in the universe repo" mean?
[01:00] <teh_pox> supposedly murrine's in there
[01:00] <AlbertK> kenthomson:  ye, i did, but now i'll use filezilla ;)
[01:00] <kenthomson> !universe | teh_pox
[01:00] <ubotu> teh_pox: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:00] <AlbertK> kenthomson:  i always try add/remove before i ask in here
[01:00] <pjv> ahh ty guys
[01:00] <kenthomson> AlbertK, good!
[01:00] <teh_pox> kenthomson: thanks, will read
[01:00] <foutrelis> kenthomson: mplayer works for me too ^.^
[01:01] <kenthomson> foutrelis, but i  have got GARBLED sound
[01:01] <kenthomson> foutrelis, :(
[01:01] <teh_pox> mplayer is the ownage
[01:01] <teh_pox> does everything
[01:01] <foutrelis> kenthomson: sound is ok here ^.^
[01:01] <kenthomson> foutrelis, looks like i am stuck with it than
[01:03] <foutrelis> kenthomson:  :( If I find anything else I 'll let you know
[01:03] <foutrelis> kenthomson: have you tried gxine?
[01:03] <kenthomson> foutrelis, please please please let me know, i shall be grateful, you can email me at kenthomson799@yahoo.com, thank you :)
[01:03] <daniel90|chemia> hi/by i wanted just show to my brother how many people are in this channel :P windows sux !
[01:03] <kenthomson> foutrelis, gxine fails
[01:03] <foutrelis> kenthomson: ok
[01:04] <coffeegrinds> is there some messed up reason that i cant get gdm to stay logged in in 6.10 (even live) unless i pull my video card and use the onboard?
[01:04] <teh_pox> yeye windows < *
[01:05] <AlbertK> is filezilla in the ubuntu-repositories?
[01:05] <nalioth> !info filezilla
[01:05] <ubotu> filezilla: Port of the famous Win32 graphical FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0~beta2-2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 659 kB, installed size 1716 kB
[01:06] <foutrelis> kenthomson: gxine plays my vcd nicely :)
[01:06] <foutrelis> kenthomson: what error do you get with gxine?
[01:09] <etchris> Anyone help with Frostwire? I installed it but when it opens i cant see anything at all?
[01:09] <zyth> etchris, are you using compiz or beryl?
[01:09] <etchris> zyth, beryl
[01:09] <Muiske> Does anyone have an idea why I am not able to access the programs under "System" (like Synaptic)? I can open those using a shell, but just clicking the item might be easier.
[01:10] <Muiske> Whenever I want to open such a program, it asks for my pw then nothing happens.
[01:10] <zyth> etchris, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316398
[01:10] <seshomaru1234> hi , i'm trying to set 'image viewer' as default application in icewm , it asks me what command , so what is the command for  it?
[01:11] <zyth> etchris, it's an issue with swing and the compisiting window manager
[01:11] <etchris> zyth, works now mate :)
[01:11] <zyth> etchris, good :)
[01:11] <fabiano> how I update my ubuntu?
[01:12] <peter77> there doesn't seem to be libdvdcss in any of the repositories!
[01:13] <zyth> peter77, that's right.
[01:13] <peter77> how do I get this codec so that I can play dvd videos?
[01:13] <zyth> !seveas
[01:13] <peter77> I'm using totem-xine
[01:13] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:13] <Fujitsu> !restrictedformats | peter77
[01:13] <zyth> there, peter77
[01:13] <ubotu> peter77: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:13] <eriksomebod1> does anyone know how to make you tube videos and myspace songs work?
[01:13] <charl_ie> does anyone know where i can download the source code for the ubuntu installer?
[01:13] <peter77> I've enabled the multiverse repo
[01:14] <Muiske> eriksomebod1: You need to install Flash.
[01:14] <Fujitsu> peter77: See the RestrictedFormats link ubotu mentioned.
[01:14] <fabiano> how I update my ubuntu?
[01:14] <peter77> k
[01:14] <Fujitsu> charl_ie: `apt-get source ubiquity' will do it.
[01:14] <Fujitsu> fabiano: To the next release?
[01:14] <Muiske> eriksomebod1: For which many HOWTO's exist, just check the Ubuntu internet forum!
[01:14] <eriksomebod1> i have flash installed as well as the flash extension for firefox, but they still don't play
[01:14] <fabiano> yes
[01:14] <epimer> anyone use nx/freenx with fluxbox on a bare server install (on the server side)? i can't seem to get an X login to work properly
[01:14] <Fujitsu> eriksomebod1: Make sure you restart Firefox.
[01:14] <Muiske> eriksomebod1: Restart FF
[01:15] <fabiano> mine is 5.10
[01:15] <Fujitsu> !upgrade | fabiano
[01:15] <ubotu> fabiano: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:15] <Muiske> eriksomebod1: Check if it is installed properly (on the Flash website)
[01:15] <eriksomebod1> they've were installed days ago and i've rebooted since then
[01:15] <epimer> it authenticates fine, but then gives me a black screen. could it be because i don't have xdm installed?
[01:15] <eriksomebod1> muiske, how would i do that exactly?
[01:15] <eriksomebod1> i'm assuming i go to the flash site, but how to test?
[01:16] <charl_ie> Fujitsu: thanks
[01:16] <Muiske> eriksomebod1: go to the Adobe Flash website, and there you can see if it's installed. I don't know exactly how you get there, just check the menus.
[01:16] <eriksomebod1> k... thanks i might be back in a bit
[01:16] <Muiske> eriksomebod1: You might also want to check which version you have installed. Version 8+ is required for YouTube and MySpace.
[01:17] <Iglooo> I have troubles getting the nvidia drivers to work on my system. Followed the steps listed in the help section on help.ubuntu.org and some other tips but I still get errors. Could anybody help me?
[01:18] <foutrelis> Iglooo: What errors do you get?
[01:18] <foutrelis> Iglooo: and could you provide a link to the guide you followed?
[01:18] <unimatrix9> hello all
[01:18] <Iglooo> thnx foutrelis: ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'. when I start nvidia-settings
[01:19] <etchris> Can anyone recommend a gnutella client for linux?
[01:19] <xtknight> !hi | unimatrix9
[01:19] <ubotu> unimatrix9: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:19] <xtknight> morning..
[01:19] <Iglooo> oh wait, this is the first error: ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[01:19] <xtknight> Iglooo, is the nvidia kernel module loaded?  if so, is 'direct rendering' enabled?
[01:20] <unimatrix9> how would you solve this : you have got two disks, on with ubuntu ( slave ) one with  data ( master ) wich has the MBR of GRUB, now the master disk dies ( with MBR and GRUB )
[01:20] <xtknight> Iglooo, additionally, where are you getting that error?
[01:20] <unimatrix9> the ubuntu disk becomes master now, and has no MBR with GRUB
[01:20] <xtknight> unimatrix9, reinstall grub onto the other mbr
[01:20] <Iglooo> when starting nvidia-settings. How do I see if the nvidia kernel module is loaded?
[01:20] <joenavelh> join#ubuntu
[01:20] <xtknight> Iglooo, lsmod | grep nvidia
[01:20] <xtknight> joenavelh, you're in here already ;)
[01:20] <joenavelh> michiel are you there
[01:20] <unimatrix9> thats what i did, but the menu.lst was then wrong..
[01:21] <Iglooo> xtknight | no, it isn't..
[01:21] <fblade> how do i get my 5.1 surround working on ubuntu?
[01:21] <unimatrix9> because its not updated
[01:21] <xtknight> Iglooo, and that's what you were trying to install, right?
[01:21] <unimatrix9> to the new situation...
[01:21] <Bieniu> !pl
[01:21] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:21] <lisapc> anyone had ntfs-3g corrupt their NTFS partition?
[01:21] <xtknight> unimatrix9, you can edit menu.lst and change the (hdx,x) and root=/dev/xxx identifiers
[01:21] <unimatrix9> can i force grub to update the menu.list?
[01:21] <joenavelh> why cant a client login to a server
[01:21] <Iglooo> xtknight | yes. Followed the steps in the help pages of Ubuntu.
[01:21] <xtknight> unimatrix9, also you will need to edit fstab of the root partition via a livecd
[01:21] <worzl> hello, i tried to install ubuntu, but it doesnt recognize my S-ATA Raid
[01:21] <charl_ie> i've just downloaded some source code using apt-get source. Where can I find it?
[01:22] <fblade> anyone?
[01:22] <eriksomebod1> retarded question, but how do i switch to a root user?
[01:22] <xtknight> charl_ie, current directory
[01:22] <Fujitsu> charl_ie: In a new folder in the current directory.
[01:22] <xtknight> eriksomebod1, sudo -i
[01:22] <Fujitsu> !sudo | eriksomebod1
[01:22] <ubotu> eriksomebod1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:22] <unimatrix9> thats a lot of work for an newbee, is there any easy solution?
[01:22] <charl_ie> thanks
[01:22] <AlbertK> thx, filezilla is doing great
[01:22] <xtknight> Iglooo, do you have the nvidia kernel module in Xorg.conf ?
[01:22] <Lord_Illidan> Hi people
[01:22] <xtknight> Iglooo, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia
[01:23] <joenavelh> ihave a srver that the thin client cant boot through he network
[01:23] <etchris> Can anyone recommend a gnutella client for linux?
[01:23] <Lord_Illidan> I want to ask, has anyone experienced a bug with games running too dark in Ubuntu Edgy?
[01:23] <jrib> etchris: gtk-gnutella
[01:23] <Iglooo> xtknight, no it is not there
[01:23] <unimatrix9> what game?
[01:23] <xtknight> Lord_Illidan, dont know about that, but try increasing gamma.  `xgamma 1.2`for example, 1.0 is the base value
[01:23] <joenavelh> its like the network is unreachable
[01:23] <ompaul> unimatrix9, system adminstration is not "desktop use" but it has come a long way in the last 10 years
[01:23] <joenavelh> can any one help me
[01:23] <unimatrix9> yes thats true
[01:23] <Lord_Illidan> Games like tremulous
[01:23] <unimatrix9> :)
[01:23] <Fujitsu> joenavelh: Does it bring up the login screen?
[01:23] <Lord_Illidan> It's an SDL bug
[01:23] <xtknight> Iglooo, alright, have you run the nvidia installer yet?
[01:23] <joenavelh> no
[01:23] <Lord_Illidan> Did anyone else notice it?
[01:24] <Fujitsu> Lord_Illidan: There's a bug on that...
[01:24] <Fujitsu> joenavelh: Does it display any messages on the client?
[01:24] <xtknight> well wtih tremulous, adjust the r_gamma variable
[01:24] <joenavelh> no
[01:24] <unimatrix9> ok got to go, thanx for the info....
[01:24] <joenavelh> just can boot
[01:24] <Lord_Illidan> I know, there is a fix
[01:24] <unimatrix9> bye all have an nice day  / night
[01:24] <Lord_Illidan> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183677&highlight=games+are+too+dark
[01:24] <unimatrix9> :)
[01:24] <joenavelh> through the network
[01:24] <Lord_Illidan> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183677
[01:25] <Iglooo> xtknight, I got the nvidia-glx package and then did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable. Followed by pressing ctr-alt-backspace to restart X
[01:25] <dhaval> someway i can remove kubuntu and shift to ubuntu?
[01:25] <xtknight> Iglooo, what does this command return?  'sudo modprobe nvidia'
[01:25] <Lord_Illidan> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/61389
[01:25] <xtknight> Iglooo, if it doesn't return anything, it succeeded.  if it did, that means there was an error and i need to know the error
[01:25] <robjo> man page trouble; can see the man pages in the GUI via system help but want to use the man command, to the best of my knowledge I have all packages installed, i.e manpages-{,dev,posix,posix-dev} yet man ls comes up blank???
[01:25] <Iglooo> xtknight, that looks promising: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[01:25] <xtknight> Iglooo, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[01:25] <jrib> dhaval: it's very easy to install ubuntu (GNOME), just install the ubuntu-desktop package.  You can safely use both.  Removing kubuntu is a bit more difficult
[01:26] <joenavelh> fujitsi: I am loged in throught the server now
[01:26] <fabiano> I have many pac in the synaptic
[01:26] <fabiano> do i have to upgrade all the pac?
[01:26] <jrib> fabiano: are you upgrading to a new version of ubuntu?
[01:26] <ferronica> How to burn .cue and .bin file in ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[01:27] <eriksomebod1> ok, another question: when it says close any browsers running, is that anything using internet connection or just firefox?
[01:27] <dhaval> jrib: so its just an issue of choosing the correct desktop environment?
[01:27] <xtknight> eriksomebod1, just firefox, since youre probably installing a plugin
[01:27] <fabiano> yes I want
[01:27] <fabiano> do i don t know how to do
[01:27] <jrib> dhaval: right, you can choose when you login, just hit the "options" button in the corner.  This way you can switch back and forth to whatever you feel like
[01:27] <jrib> !upgrade | fabiano
[01:27] <ubotu> fabiano: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:27] <joenavelh> Fujitsu: can you please help me with that
[01:27] <Iglooo> xtknight: that command returns E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:27] <Iglooo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:28] <xtknight> Iglooo, close any open package managers such as update-manager (wait for it to complete) or synaptic
[01:28] <insomninja> Does changing of the charset or linebreak format change the md5sum of a file?
[01:28] <ferronica> How to burn .cue and .bin file in ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[01:28] <xtknight> insomninja, yes
[01:28] <lisapc> how can  I convrt .wmv files to mpeg?
[01:28] <Iglooo> xtknight, heh sry, now it gives: E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules
[01:28] <xtknight> Iglooo, ok did you add the -`uname -r` part
[01:28] <dhaval> jrib: and if i want to get rid of kubuntu altogether? is it a major pain, or just a question of removing kde packages?
[01:28] <massctrl> Hi all, I was wondering in what way ubuntu-server differs from a debian-server install ? (no distrowar just some basic differences pls)
[01:29] <Aardwolf> Hi, I have version "breezy" of ubuntu. I'd like to get the newest version of dosbox. So I type "apt-get install dosbox". But it says: "Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter". I don't think I have the cdrom here, and I think it should be possible to install it without a cdrom (after all pacman of archlinux can do that too). How can I get the n
[01:29] <Aardwolf> ewest version of dosbox on my system the quickest way now?
[01:29] <Iglooo> xtknight, missed the last char: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic is already the newest version.
[01:29] <Iglooo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:29] <xtknight> Aardwolf, run synaptic and disable the CD repository.  instead use internet repositories
[01:30] <joenavelh> does any one know why thin client cant boot from a network server
[01:30] <robjo> man pages help anybody?
[01:30] <xtknight> eh where is nvidia.ko in Edgy?  anyone?
[01:31] <ferronica> How to burn .cue and .bin file in ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[01:31] <erUSUL> xtknight: what package? or where in the filesystem?
[01:31] <jrib> dhaval: it's a pain really.  There are a couple of approaches: one is to remove a qt library which will force everything else to get removed, another way is to use deborphan or apt-get autoremove (I hear the latter is buggy), and yet another way is to use the list found at: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.phphttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[01:31] <xtknight> erUSUL, package..
[01:31] <BioGeek> hey, I try to view all the *.ico files on my system, but "slocate *.ico | eog" doesn't quite work
[01:31] <insomninja> Can someone explain this then?: I run make to compile a couple of files - it compiles. I open Test.c in gedit press save (no editing) and run make again it doesn't compile even thought md5sums have not changed. o_O???
[01:31] <xtknight> erUSUL, it doesn't turn up any results at the ubuntu packages search
[01:31] <yellow_chicken> is there a howto for /etc/apt/source.list? i want to tell it to use dvd.iso to install apts for a machine that has no internet access
[01:31] <erUSUL> xtknight: linux-restricted-modules afaik
[01:31] <insomninja> *...run make again and it doesn't compile...
[01:32] <ferronica> How to burn .cue and .bin file in ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[01:32] <erUSUL> ferronica: man cdrdao
[01:32] <xtknight> Iglooo, ls -a /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile   should be about two lines, just paste it here
[01:33] <jrib> ferronica: gnomebaker can do .cue
[01:33] <Aardwolf> how can I recognise what is a cdrom repository, in the list of repositories in synaptic?
[01:33] <ferronica> erUSUL: i sont know how to use terminal commands
[01:33] <Iglooo> .           fcdsl2.ko   fcdslslusb.ko  fcdslusb.ko  fxusb.ko
[01:33] <Iglooo> ..          fcdsl.ko    fcdslusb2.ko   fcpci.ko     .mounted
[01:33] <Iglooo> ath_hal.ko  fcdslsl.ko  fcdslusba.ko   fcusb.ko
[01:34] <xtknight> Iglooo, well kernel version 2.6.17-11 is out, you should perhaps update
[01:34] <jrib> Aardwolf: it will usually say something like "deb cdrom:"
[01:34] <ferronica> jrib: .cue and .bin files are Movie files
[01:34] <insomninja> ferroica, you could check if k3b supports the format
[01:34] <insomninja> ferronica, you could check if k3b supports the format
[01:34] <insomninja> (mispelled name)
[01:34] <linxeh> ferronica: you could learn the commands ;-)
[01:35] <IRCMonkey> NEED HELP!!!! quick .. gotta get internet wroking on ubuntu.. how do i configure network card to work
[01:35] <DeL3e7> lol
[01:35] <eriksomebod1> too easy... thanks for all that helped with the flash installation
[01:35] <foutrelis> could someone help me understand what && and || do in the command prompt? for example: cd / && ls O.o
[01:35] <IRCMonkey> it says its on eth0 which would be the only network card .. i have put in the parameters for the ip, gateway, dns .. whatelse do i need to do ?
[01:35] <ferronica> linxeh: Is there any site available to learn commands
[01:35] <DeL3e7> ifconfig show anything besides lo interface?
[01:35] <IRCMonkey> Gotta go to work in 5 minutes need to set it up for friend
[01:35] <jrib> foutrelis: && will only do the second command if the first is successful
[01:36] <DeL3e7> try dhclient
[01:36] <SubMOA> can somebody tell me the different "splash" screens at start up?
[01:36] <Fujitsu> IRCMonkey: how do you connect to the internet?
[01:36] <humbolto> is there a way to encrypt a root partition?
[01:36] <ferronica> insomninja: do i need to download k3b???
[01:36] <SubMOA> I know of usplash and the "Splash Screen"
[01:36] <IRCMonkey> Lan .. to Wireless ISP
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> SubMOA: there's a bunch of them you can download.
[01:36] <linxeh> ferronica: there is the ubuntuguide.org which has some, and there are plenty of linux beginner guides on google
[01:36] <xtknight> Iglooo, also put the results of this on pastebin (you can just do this command right now):  find /lib/modules/* -name nvidia*
[01:36] <IRCMonkey> Direct connection to radio..
[01:36] <foutrelis> jrib: and || will stop if the first command was unsuccessful?
[01:36] <IRCMonkey> so basically LAN
[01:36] <SubMOA> i scoured (sp?) the forums and those are the two i found, but I still see about four different screens from boot up until I'm up and running
[01:37] <Iglooo> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
[01:37] <insomninja> ferronica, if you don't have it already -yes, sudo apt-get install k3b in terminal or just fire up synaptic and sesarch for it
[01:37] <Iglooo> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
[01:37] <Iglooo> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[01:37] <jrib> foutrelis: no, you have a double negative there, || only does the second command if the first is unsuccessful
[01:37] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: The login screen? That's GDM... What do the others look like?
[01:37] <foutrelis> jrib: thanks man. I understand it now ^.^
[01:37] <IRCMonkey> any ideas fijitsu?
[01:37] <xtknight> Iglooo, i guess you will have to download the nvidia drivers off www.nvidia.com
[01:37] <Iglooo> heh =] . Do you give that a good probability of succes?
[01:38] <Fujitsu> IRCMonkey: Do you have a LAN with an internet connection not directly connected to your computer?
[01:38] <xtknight> Iglooo, yeah, higher than this that's for sure
[01:38] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, well... here is what I see first, i see an "Edubuntu" style splash screen (after the BIOS, etc. stuff) this is weird to me as I don't have edubuntu
[01:38] <xtknight> !nvidia
[01:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:38] <IRCMonkey> It will be directly connected to the linux machine
[01:38] <IRCMonkey> its on my laptop atm how im speaking to you
[01:38] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: Ah, you probably installed edubuntu-desktop at some point, or similar.... Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:38] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, then, I see the progress bar... styled similar to the edubuntu splash screen I stated earlier.
[01:38] <Iglooo> hehe. Well thanks a bunch for you help, xtknight. Going to get the driver from nvidia then.
[01:38] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, 6.10
[01:38] <xtknight> Iglooo, ok
[01:39] <ferronica> insomninja: i found k3b in Add/ Remove options
[01:39] <Fujitsu> IRCMonkey: What kind of internet connection is it, and how do you connect in Windows?
[01:39] <ferronica> insomninja: do i installlit from there???
[01:39] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, THEN i see a picture that I wanted for the splash screen (a windoze BSOD... to remind me that even though linux has its difficulites, it's better than windows)
[01:39] <insomninja> ferronica: Yes you could
[01:39] <IRCMonkey> I plug it into my laptop .. LAN cable coming from roof .. coneccted to radio / antenna.. then i configure static ip with gateway.
[01:39] <IRCMonkey> in settings.
[01:39] <IRCMonkey> and it works fine
[01:39] <Fujitsu> IRCMonkey: Well, configure the static IP and gateway, then.
[01:40] <IRCMonkey> i have
[01:40] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, THEN (sorry) I see a light brown screen for a few seconds and voila, my desktop appears.
[01:40] <IRCMonkey> when i open firefox.. no page access
[01:40] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: Is the BSOD the login screen?
[01:40] <etchris> I know this isnt WINE support, but do any of you run Counter Strike Source through WINE?
[01:40] <rausb0> IRCMonkey: you have to configure DNS as well
[01:40] <ferronica> insomninja: can burn my .bin file via terminal tooo without installing K3b
[01:40] <Fujitsu> IRCMonkey: You may need to configure DNS too.
[01:40] <Fujitsu> ... as rausb0 said.
[01:40] <IRCMonkey> yes i put in 10.9.0.3
[01:40] <IRCMonkey> and 10.9.0.4
[01:40] <ferronica> insomninja: Is it possible???
[01:40] <Fujitsu> IRCMonkey: Are you able to ping any other machines?
[01:40] <IRCMonkey> these are dnses?
[01:40] <IRCMonkey> no
[01:40] <SubMOA> that's sort of what I wanted, but no, it's not.  It is what comes on after (usually it's brown and shows things loading like Nautilis etc.)
[01:41] <etchris> I know this isnt WINE support, but do any of you run Counter Strike Source through WINE?
[01:41] <insomninja> ferronica I think that's when what this is for "<erUSUL> ferronica: man cdrdao"
[01:41] <Fujitsu> etchris: Please don't repeat so frequently.
[01:41] <maisonefou> #proformatique
[01:41] <IRCMonkey> thanks for your help
[01:41] <IRCMonkey> going now
[01:41] <ferronica> insomninja: Yes
[01:41] <IRCMonkey> Keep well all
[01:42] <etchris> Fujitsu, Sorry got a bit impatient :(
[01:42] <maisonefou> #join proformatique
[01:42] <dhaval> jrib: sorry, was out. copy waste seems to work for me. first let the shift to ubuntu finish
[01:42] <robjo> howto change user GID an UID without breaking sudo?
[01:42] <SubMOA> Idealy i would like this:  press button... shows text scrawling about.  nothing but black background and white letter, then, it will display a blank screen with a blinking cursor (this will be where i log in) then it will switch to BSOD while loading everything, then finally to my desktop
[01:42] <ferronica> insomninja: but he didnt provides me all command, and i am new in Linux
[01:42] <SubMOA> sorry Fujitsu I keep forgetting to type your name in there so you can see it easier.
[01:43] <dhaval> jrib: btw, i am trying to get my family to use linux, and 3d desktop seems to be a major selling point. which one is more stable, compiz or beryl?
[01:43] <Fujitsu> dhaval: Compiz.
[01:43] <insomninja> well, man cdrdao shows the cdrdao manual page (scroll up anddown with arrow keys) and from there you can determine what parameters you need
[01:43] <SubMOA> dhaval, I am running beryl... love it.  Don't really use the features to much, but it looks cool for when my friends as what I'm use.
[01:43] <dhaval> Fujitsu: and feature wise?
[01:43] <dhaval> SubMOA: has it crashed yet?
[01:43] <Fujitsu> dhaval: Beryl, probably.
[01:44] <Fujitsu> But Beryl is rather unstable.
[01:44] <dhaval> i have not been able to find much googling :(
[01:44] <SubMOA> dhaval, not sure about compiz, but the only thing I don't like about beryl is that my shortcuts are overridden and only the beryl shortcuts work...
[01:44] <insomninja> ferronica: ^(previous message forgot to prefix it)
[01:44] <dhaval> SubMOA: i guess that is a problem when you know the shortcuts :). i am trying to get my parents on, and they will probably never use the shortcuts
[01:44] <SubMOA> dhaval, at first I had some difficulty... it never crashed my computer, but I had to revert to metacity (I think that was it)... i've been running it for some months now without a hitch
[01:44] <SubMOA> dhaval, rgr :O)
[01:45] <dhaval> SubMOA: so i guess apt-get install compiz should do it? (I use FC btw, so i am also completely new to the ubuntu scene)
[01:45] <SubMOA> dhaval... it has a feature where if it does crash, it will automatically switch to your regualeer manager... sometimes, it would do that and I owuldn't notice for hours (usually when I tried the 3d desktop and nothing happened)
[01:46] <dhaval> SubMOA: sorry, beryl
[01:46] <impact> yes
[01:46] <impact> u need to add a repo to your sources.lst
[01:46] <BioGeek> hey, I try to view all the *.ico files on my system, but "slocate *.ico | eog" doesn't quite work
[01:46] <dhaval> SubMOA: i have used compiz, so I know immediately when i was running compiz and when i was not
[01:46] <impact> and the find the beryl package and install it
[01:46] <BioGeek> anyone has a better command?
[01:46] <SubMOA> dhaval, well I am completely new the whole whole scene period.  To be honest, i forget how I got it... I know I did a TON of reading to get it... took me a few weeks, but I wasn't comfortable w/ the command line.  I will try to find the site I used... it was very easy with all the steps.  The problem i had was that most of the tutorials ended up with bad repositories.
[01:47] <Fujitsu> dhaval: Why not use Compiz? It's supported, and a whole lot more stable.
[01:47] <dhaval> impact: you meant me? which repo is required for beryl?
[01:47] <rausb0> BioGeek: i'd rather use   eog $(slocate \.ico)
[01:47] <dhaval> Fujitsu: i don't mind using any, i just want my parents to be wowed :)
[01:47] <impact> wait i have a look at it @dhaval
[01:47] <Fujitsu> dhaval: Crashes don't wow people, generally
[01:47] <IdleOne> !beryl | dhaval
[01:47] <ubotu> dhaval: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:47] <dhaval> Fujitsu: that is true, therefore i need more information
[01:47] <shadowhywind> Hay all, still having issues with my nvidia drivers, i found out of i connect a external monitor everything works right, but if it just my laptop alone, everything breaks.. any ideas?
[01:47] <yellow_chicken> why is feisty dvd iso out? http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/?C=M;O=A       when the final release is out, how to tell, if indeed this is not beta dvd iso?
[01:48] <impact> #deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[01:48] <impact> #deb-src http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main
[01:48] <Fujitsu> yellow_chicken: That is an alpha ISO, not even beta.
[01:48] <jrib> dhaval: why not try both and choose what you feel works better for you.  I agree with what Fujitsu said, compiz is generally more stable but beryl has more features
[01:48] <BioGeek> rausb0: it first throws up some error messages, but then works nice enough. Thanks!
[01:48] <impact> dhaval: got it?
[01:48] <Fujitsu> yellow_chicken: The official ISO will be ubuntu-7.04-*.iso, not feisty-*.iso.
[01:48] <dhaval> jrib: i think i will give it a shot.. btw, does either beryl or compiz run on kde as well?
[01:48] <dhaval> impact: yep! thanks!
[01:49] <joenavelh> Fujitsu: i am not a thea technical and am new to this chart the problem is the server is working fine but the but when the thin client is booted up is doesnt boot and it gives me this message(no boot file receive ......Exiting intel PXE rom............Non-system disk or disk error
[01:49] <schaalml> does anybody know the replacement for base-config/late_command using preseeding or is this still correct for edgy?
[01:49] <MrStein> Stupid question: how do I make a beep in ubutnu ? I tried echo -e \\a , but there is no sound. Tried on  a latop and in vmware on a PC.
[01:49] <rausb0> BioGeek: piping some output to a command is different from giving the output as a parameter list
[01:49] <impact> dhaval: since it is a layer between the window manager and the xserver it does not matter which WM you use
[01:49] <SubMOA> dhaval, in regards to the beryl vs compiz, I think beryl is more active... not sure about now, but that was the reason I went with beryl... they had  more stuff and it was (I read) more developed considering how long it had been running (i.e. not as advanced and compiz, but when compiz was where beryl was, it was way behind... does that make sense?)
[01:50] <yellow_chicken> Fujitsu: ok alpha then, but ubuntu.com did not list md5sum for 6.10 dvd iso image, my friend gave me dvd iso.  how to tell if this is final release of 6.10 i am using?
[01:50] <impact> dhaval: I use XFCE for example
[01:50] <impact> and it works great with beryl
[01:50] <dhaval> impact: i have never used XFCE, how is it looks wise?
[01:50] <SubMOA> I think I used this tutorial: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/10/29/beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-aiglx-no-xgl-ubuntu-610/
[01:50] <Fujitsu> yellow_chicken: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ has the file with the md5sums.
[01:50] <insomninja> dhaval: A little like gnome
[01:50] <SpacePuppy> beep
[01:50] <yellow_chicken> Fujitsu: he already burnt the 6.10 dvd for me, how to check if this is not pre-release
[01:50] <yellow_chicken> ok
[01:51] <dhaval> SubMOA: well, i have not been able to find beryl screenshots, so i really have no idea how it looks
[01:51] <impact> dhaval: it looks really nice, 'cause you re using the emerald themes of beryl
[01:51] <Luis07> Hello! Could you guys tell me which version of GNOME will be included in Festy Fawn?
[01:51] <Fujitsu> Luis07: 2.18
[01:51] <dhaval> SubMOA: as such i thought that compiz was better organized
[01:51] <dhaval> impact: and that is in the ubuntu-alternate package if i am right
[01:51] <Luis07> Fujitsu, Great, that's what I wanted to hear :) Thank you
[01:51] <SubMOA> dhaval, oOo, hmm... yea, not sure on that, that's just what I read and it was awhile ago
[01:51] <flake> what's a good free php photo album - and easy?
[01:51] <joenavelh> Fujitsu: can you please help me
[01:51] <dhaval> impact: apt-get install ubuntu-alternate
[01:51] <SubMOA> i can send you a video of mine... or, actually... let me find a utube of it
[01:51] <Fujitsu> joenavelh: I really don't know, unfortunately.
[01:52] <dhaval> SubMOA: a youtube will be good
[01:52] <joenavelh> ok
[01:52] <dhaval> btw, dumb question to ask, but is flash on apt-get?
[01:52] <impact> dhaval: no, just add the lines I posted ...
[01:52] <SubMOA> dhaval, rgr, one sec
[01:52] <Fujitsu> dhaval: Yep.
[01:52] <impact> dhaval: and then use synaptic to find the stuff
[01:52] <Fujitsu> dhaval: Install flashplugin-nonfree, from multiverse.
[01:52] <impact> dhaval: the package is named beryl, I guess but I am not 100% sure
[01:53] <dhaval> impact: no, i meant for xfce
[01:53] <yellow_chicken> Fujitsu: sorry, i do not see the dvd iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/MD5SUMS
[01:53] <jonhurlock> 8)
[01:53] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[01:53] <jenda> Where can I find the list of packages on the CD?
[01:53] <Fujitsu> DVD...
[01:53] <impact> dhaval: and u need the emerald-themes package ... ah ok
[01:53] <Fujitsu> Let me look for it.
[01:53] <jenda> Ubuntu CD, that is.
[01:53] <impact> dhaval: I just installed xubuntu direclty
[01:53] <Crazytom> Fujitsu, do you have a fujitsu laptop?
[01:53] <Fujitsu> Crazytom: No, a Dell.
[01:53] <impact> dhaval: but if you want it now from your installation you shoudl install xubuntu-desktop package
[01:54] <impact> dhaval: i am not sure in which repo it is sry
[01:54] <Fujitsu> yellow_chicken: I'm not sure where the DVDs are hosted.
[01:54] <dhaval> impact: well, my ubuntu download got corrupted  after 692 mb
[01:54] <rausb0> !info xubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.23 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 36 kB
[01:55] <robjo> help with user management, need to change UID and GID to match with the machines on my network but don't want to break sudo or nlock the root account, what to do?
[01:55] <dhaval> impact: and i had the kubuntu dvd iso, so i installed that, now i am trying to shift to ubuntu desktop
[01:55] <yellow_chicken> Fujitsu: he get it via bit torrent, not sure if this 6.10 is the pre-release or the actual release
[01:55] <impact> dhaval: np, just install the desktop package u like and thats it normally
[01:55] <Fujitsu> yellow_chicken: Why does it matter? Upgrading a pre-release will give the same results anyway.
[01:56] <Crazytom> My laptop was taking about 10 minutes to boot but then I disabled acpi on startup and it boots in about 45 seconds now but now hal doesn't start.  how can I fix my slow startup problem without disabling acpi?  Thanks in advance
[01:56] <impact> dhaval: I have the 'howto' beryl link somewhere give me a second ...
[01:56] <SubMOA> dhaval, this one is lengthy... i was trying to find the one that really make me decide on beryl but I couldn't find it, sorry, anyway:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOWeeVvhiAw
[01:56] <yellow_chicken> Fujitsu: the machine that i will be putting it on, has no internet access.
[01:57] <Fujitsu> yellow_chicken: Ah...
[01:57] <tallman> hello everybody!
[01:57] <Fujitsu> !hi | tallman
[01:57] <ubotu> tallman: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:57] <dhaval> SubMOA: np! let me check this one out
[01:57] <dhaval> hello everybody!
[01:58] <tallman> helo
[01:58] <BigLebowski> Hi
[01:58] <robjo> dhaval: Here is a starting point for beryl http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[01:58] <dhaval> ok, i was just trying the ubotu :)
[01:58] <yellow_chicken> Fujitsu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/   found it
[01:58] <robjo> GID, UID changes anyone?
[01:59] <dhaval> impact: i need to step out for a moment, hopefully i will much more on my way to gnome by the time i am back
[01:59] <SubMOA> dhaval, it looks jumpy, but I think that's the recording software as mine runs smooth as could be, but doesn't look nearly as good when I record it.
[01:59] <impact> dhaval: I will be on for a while np
[01:59] <dhaval> SubMOA: i will view it soon. i need to step out now..
[01:59] <SubMOA> dhaval, rgr, bye
[01:59] <K3nto> LordLimecat: yo
[01:59] <dhaval> SubMOA: :( bye
[01:59] <SubMOA> haha
[02:00] <tallman> !bye
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, any luck with the start up screens... perhaps a good tutorial on everything happening on start up?
[02:00] <Crazytom> My laptop was taking about 10 minutes to boot but then I disabled acpi on startup and it boots in about 45 seconds now but now hal doesn't start.  how can I fix my slow startup problem without disabling acpi?  Could someone point me in the right direction?  Thanks in advance
[02:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> i am having problems accessing my cdrom1 drive it says i do not have access rights any help with fstab would be appreciated.
[02:00] <tallman> Crazytom, optimize
[02:00] <rbd> hey guys, I can't find a libapache2-auth-ldap type package with server 6.10 ...I am subscribed to ubuntu universe....
[02:00] <K3nto> !brightness
[02:01] <Crazytom> tallman, what do you mean?
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brightness - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <IdleOne> !info libapache2-auth-ldap
[02:01] <ubotu> Package libapache2-auth-ldap does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:01] <yellow_chicken> for the calendar command, "cal", it does not hightlight today's date.  how to make it hightlight today's date?  will 7.04 do that?
[02:01] <tallman> Crazytom, http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2006/11/11/howto-set-up-edgy-for-speed/
[02:02] <tallman> !date
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <Fujitsu> yellow_chicken: Are you running 6.06? It does so on 6.10 and 7.04.
[02:03] <SubMOA> anyway to get xchat in firefox as a tab?
[02:03] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: Not that I know of.
[02:03] <Smotang> Hi, I have a problem reading off a DVD drive I keep coming up against an I/O error is there any way to download the data from the DVD? I know that it is possible in XP using a program called dataroller or somesuch, do we have a program in linux that is equal to that?
[02:04] <tallman> SubMOA, great idea...
[02:04] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, hmm...
[02:04] <tallman> SubMOA, maybe chatzilla ?
[02:04] <Smotang> uboto I/O error
[02:04] <bimberi> rbd: 'apt-cache search apache2 | grep ldap'   - I get 2 results
[02:04] <yellow_chicken> Fujitsu: yes, on lappy 6.06. on mac i have 6.10, let me check. i hardly use the mac.
[02:04] <SubMOA> tallman i will check it out
[02:05] <gnudo> i'm thinking about buying a core2 duo laptop. Have any of you encountered any issues (bios,acpi,etc) when running ubuntu on such a laptop? i'm talking 64bit here!
[02:05] <bimberi> or 'apt-cache search apache2 ldap' for that matter :)
[02:05] <zues_62> a question
[02:05] <Fujitsu> zues_62: Go ahead.
[02:06] <zues_62> how do i set the default media player in ubunt
[02:06] <DaveTarmac> anyone good with setting up vnc on edgy? i've done the 'sudo apt-get install vnc4server' and it installed with no problem, but i cannot seem to access it from my windows machine
[02:06] <SubMOA> tallman chatzilla doesn't appear to be able to be loaded in a tab
[02:06] <tallman> gnudo, you can install 32 bit version of ubuntu on it
[02:06] <zues_62> so it opens audio files in it
[02:06] <zues_62> does anyone know?
[02:06] <tallman> SubMOA, then I don't no too...
[02:06] <tallman> know*
[02:06] <SubMOA> tallman hehe, thanks
[02:06] <joenavelh> can someone tell me what a ../var disk is?
[02:07] <Crazytom> tallman, I have a problem with acpi hanging for about 5 or 10 minutes, is this going to help?
[02:07] <zues_62> i want rythem box to open my music not the defualt player
[02:07] <zues_62> how can i change this
[02:07] <Kristov> hi
[02:07] <bimberi> !defaultapp | zues_62
[02:07] <ubotu> zues_62: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[02:07] <SubMOA> zues_62, i think under properties of the song you can change what program it opens with and you can select to apply to all types of files with this extension
[02:07] <tallman> Crazytom, why not try...but carefully, you don't need to apply all of the optimizatoins
[02:07] <joenavelh> what is a var disk
[02:08] <SubMOA> zues_62, yea, what ubotu said
[02:08] <LjL> !nickspam > foutrelis_away    (foutrelis_away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:08] <tallman> !var
[02:08] <foutrelis_away> sorry :(
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about var - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <Crazytom> tallman, i know the problem is with acpi because when it is disabled the computer starts in under a minute, i'm not trying to run it on a 75 mhz processor or anything
[02:08] <yellow_chicken> Fujitsu: yes, you are right, ppc with 6.10's cal did do what i want
[02:09] <TooR4u> How to create a server in ubuntu?
[02:09] <TooR4u> i need to create a FTP server ...
[02:09] <LjL> TooR4u: a server for what?
[02:09] <LjL> !ftpd
[02:09] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[02:10] <Crazytom> i think multiple things are trying to use irq 11.  can someone please help me?
[02:10] <gnudo> tallman: what about the 64bit version?
[02:10] <tallman> Crazytom, it's you to choose =)
[02:10] <tallman> gnudo, not all the software exists for 64
[02:10] <TooR4u> !FTP
[02:10] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:11] <Fujitsu> tallman: Only non-free (ie. proprietary) stuff doesn't exist for 64-bit.
[02:11] <tallman> gnudo, you'll have a headache and not much of spped
[02:11] <tallman> speed*
[02:11] <Crazytom> tallman, none of those things have anything to do with acpi
[02:12] <tallman> Crazytom, but some of them do with speeding up the boot time!
[02:13] <SubMOA> how would I go about makeing it so i have NO startup/splash/usplash screens whatsoever?  I just want blank screens and white letters flying down.
[02:13] <tallman> gnudo, by the C2D and install 32 bit version of ubuntu on it ;)
[02:13] <SubMOA> this would include the logn in screen... it want to to look like a terminal when you type "sudo su"
[02:13] <Crazytom> tallman, if acpi the whole thing boots in under 1 minute I don't need to speed up other things I need to FIX ACPI
[02:14] <tallman> SubMOA, http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2006/11/11/howto-set-up-edgy-for-speed/  ??
[02:14] <jrib> SubMOA: disable the graphical login (system > administration > services).  Remove "quiet" and "splash" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:14] <Fujitsu> Crazytom: Which version of Ubuntu are you trying to run?
[02:14] <SubMOA> tallman, domo arigato
[02:14] <SubMOA> jrib, thanks
[02:14] <HaMBoNE79> I am having a problem with my swap space turning on automatically at boot
[02:14] <Crazytom> 6.10 edgy i beleive
[02:14] <Fujitsu> HaMBoNE79: Is that a problem?
[02:14] <tallman> Crazytom, acpi is a module... how do you think you can fix it?
[02:15] <Fujitsu> Crazytom: your best bet is probably to file a bug at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17, and let the experts look at the problem.
[02:15] <tallman> Crazytom, upgrade to feisty
[02:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> could someone here that knows about fstab give me a hand with it? I have no access rights on my dvdrom and this is a fresh install of edgy
[02:15] <SubMOA> jrib, it says bad things will happen
[02:15] <HaMBoNE79> Fujitsu: yes, it is on a laptop and I need swap to hibernate the laptop
[02:15] <Fujitsu> tallman: Do NOT advise that for an issue like that.
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> tallman: why would you recommend someone upgrade to feisty?
[02:15] <Crazytom> tallman, i thought it wasn't available
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> Crazytom: you'd be crazy to listen to him..lol
[02:15] <tallman> new kernel
[02:15] <tallman> 2.6.20
[02:15] <HaMBoNE79> I can manually create swap and mount it no problem, but it will not turn on automatically at boot
[02:16] <Fujitsu> Crazytom: It is available, but for testing or development only.
[02:16] <tallman> new acpi module
[02:16] <Crazytom> IndyGunFreak, who?  tallman or Fujitsu
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> Crazytom: ... tallman, feisty is still very experimental, and really not wise for people who are not very comfortable with linux
[02:16] <JazziB> i want to install MP-player and  trix where i can download n installed them? i m new linux user .. using Ubuntu 1st time.?
[02:17] <jrib> SubMOA: it should work afaik.  I don't know why it says taht
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> "It usually always works"
[02:17] <SubMOA> jrib, let me get the exact words
[02:17] <Crazytom> I don't think anything is really wrong with the module.  I just know that when it is disabled I cut 10 minutes off my  boot time
[02:17] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: It's probably to dissuade users who don't know what they're doing from disabling the GUI.
[02:17] <jrib> SubMOA: that's ok, I see the message here as well
[02:17] <SubMOA> This may affect your system behavior in several ways, possibly leading to data loss.
[02:17] <Fujitsu> Crazytom: That means there is something wrong with it :P
[02:18] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, so I should be ok, then, ne?
[02:18] <tallman> SubMOA, domo arigato  what that means? what if I speak to you in russin? huh? =))
[02:18] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: I'm pretty sure.
[02:18] <Fujitsu> Good to see some Japanese being spoken :)
[02:18] <Fujitsu> tallman: `thankyou'
[02:18] <SubMOA> tallman, it means thanks! :O)  I would love to learn some russian!
[02:19] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, are you in Japan?
[02:19] <Crazytom> IndyGunFreak, I'm comfortable with linux i'm just not an expert.  I wouldn't expect to be able to fix acpi problems at this level in windows either
[02:19] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: No, but I like the language, and know a tiny amount.
[02:19] <tallman> SubMOA, Fujitsu ,  ;)
[02:19] <theBrave> Hello, I have a problem, I installed ATi binaries drivers but I still have '(EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)
[02:19] <theBrave> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering' error in Xorg0.log
[02:19] <Fujitsu> I really should be heading off to bed, anyway... Night all.
[02:19] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, that's cool... I'm stationed  here :OP
[02:19] <EdgEy> how can i get auto-mounting to work properly?
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> Crazytom: I understand
[02:19] <EdgEy> i created a partition in gparted
[02:19] <tallman> !night
[02:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> here is what my fstab looks like could anyone tell my why I do not have access rights for /media/cdrom1 ??????  http://pastebin.ca/398683
[02:20] <Crazytom> Fujitsu, thanks for the help
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about night - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <SubMOA> tallman, uhh....
[02:20] <EdgEy> KDE tries to automount it (kubuntu) and it just doesn't do anything after that
[02:20] <TooR4u> LjL, i want to do some thing for Open soure.Yesterday micosoft selected 6 students in our college in microsoft sudent team
[02:20] <theBrave> /join #beryl
[02:20] <dhaval> TooR4u: contribute :)
[02:20] <erUSUL> theBrave: i think that fglrx does not support aiglx
[02:20] <tallman> SubMOA, that's thanks in russian
[02:20] <SubMOA> jrib, so I should be ok with turning off the gdm
[02:20] <jrib> SubMOA: yes
[02:20] <JazziB> is anysoftware apps packager ? with that i can find apps easily n download them?
[02:20] <TooR4u> is there any other way to work for opensource?
[02:20] <Fujitsu> erUSUL: That's correct, but that wouldn't cause the first of those errors.
[02:20] <SubMOA> tallman... how is that written with english; how is it pronounced?
[02:20] <theBrave> erUSUL:  yes error happen even with xgl
[02:20] <mheath> SubMOA, Where you stationed at? (other than 'Japan')?
[02:20] <SubMOA> jrib, thanks!
[02:21] <Fujitsu> !contribute | TooR4u
[02:21] <ubotu> TooR4u: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[02:21] <SubMOA> mheath, this is my first base... I'm heading off to enland in a bit though
[02:21] <SubMOA> England*
[02:21] <tallman> SubMOA, like [spasibo] 
[02:21] <Fujitsu> JazziB: There is `Add/Remove' in the Applications menu.
[02:21] <dhaval> Fujitsu: is there a help for using ubotu?
[02:21] <Smotang> Hi, I have a problem reading off a DVD drive I keep coming up against an I/O error is there any way to download the data from the DVD? I know that it is possible in XP using a program called dataroller or somesuch, do we have a program in linux that is equal to that?
[02:21] <SubMOA> tallman, hmm... that's cool
[02:21] <mheath> SubMOA, Hmmm. USMC?
[02:21] <[BTF] Chm0d> sigh this is frustrating.  I have a hard time believe out of 1025 nicks nobody can help with fstab.
[02:21] <SubMOA> mheath, negative, Chair Force
[02:21] <TooR4u> dhaval, he gave 2hr lecture on microsoft visual studio,.net ....etc
[02:21] <TooR4u> :p
[02:22] <Crazytom> is there a way to update to fiesty?
[02:22] <Fujitsu> dhaval: Not sure. I just know from using it for a couple of years in various incarnations. No idea how.
[02:22] <dhaval> TooR4u: well, there are better ways to do things :). give a hands on linux
[02:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> or atleast acknowledge the fact that I am asking for help
[02:22] <mheath> SubMOA, Heh. Didn't know air force had a very large presence in Japan. Or England for that matter.
[02:22] <dhaval> [BTF] Chm0d: well, what is the problem?
[02:22] <SubMOA> We are the biggest base in the pacific (USAF base anyway)
[02:22] <tallman> Crazytom, yes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[02:22] <TooR4u> dhaval, yah ... i am working with linux from 1yr
[02:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> http://pastebin.ca/398683 i have no access rights to /media/cdrom1
[02:22] <TooR4u> but ... i need some work
[02:22] <mheath> SubMOA, Yeah, but Naval and Marine presence is far larger.
[02:22] <TooR4u> heheh
[02:22] <bimberi> !ubotu | dhaval
[02:22] <ubotu> dhaval: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> fresh install of edgy
[02:22] <SubMOA> mheath, this is true.
[02:23] <SubMOA> mheath, maybe not for long, though...
[02:23] <dhaval> TooR4u: i am running an open source entusiasts group at my institute
[02:23] <SubMOA> mheath i think they are gearing up to go to Guam in a few years... not sure though, just what I read in the papers
[02:23] <dhaval> TooR4u: and its an experience, and i found the best way is to get people to actually do stuff
[02:23] <Fujitsu> mheath, SubMOA: This isn't really on topic, and we like to keep the channel fairly tidy. If you want to continue this discussion, please consider taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:23] <dhaval> TooR4u: i think even we are going offtopic :)
[02:23] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, rgr, sorry about that.
[02:24] <TooR4u> dhaval, What kind of work do u r doing?
[02:24] <TooR4u> related to Operating systems (or)..?
[02:24] <mheath> Yep, Sorry about that. Time to head to the galley and eat, anyway :)
[02:24] <SubMOA> mheath, see yea
[02:25] <JazziB> is there any apps packager except SYNAPTIC?
[02:25] <mheath> JazziB, Yep.
[02:25] <Fujitsu> JazziB: What is wrong with Synaptic?
[02:25] <mheath> You can use the Add/Remove Programs dialog (though truth be told that uses synaptic as a backend)
[02:25] <tallman> JazziB, aptitude :;)
[02:25] <SubMOA> JazziB, not sure it they are "approved" but I know of automatix.. .I've heard  bad things, though
[02:25] <BigLebowski> apt-get? aptitude?
[02:25] <mheath> Or, if you're familiar with the command line, use tools like apt-get or aptitude
[02:25] <JazziB> mheath:  can  you plz tell me where i can found them And Whts the name?
[02:25] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: Automatix is the evil of all evils.
[02:26] <Fujitsu> JazziB: Why do you want alternate ones?
[02:26] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, so I've heard... what's the beef?
[02:26] <erUSUL> !automatix
[02:26] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:26] <mheath> JazziB, sure. On your Programs menu, near the bottom, there is something that says Add/Remove Programs.
[02:26] <tallman> Fujitsu, sound like RMS =)
[02:26] <Rondom> wird das forum jetzt an tanslators-de weitergeleietet, oder was?
[02:26] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: It breaks a lot of upgrades.
[02:26] <Fujitsu> !de | Rondom
[02:26] <ubotu> Rondom: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:26] <mheath> JazziB, That can be used for adding and removing a lot of things.
[02:26] <BigLebowski> Fujitsu, Yeah how lazy do you have to be to use automatix?
[02:26] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, ut oh... I use it... haven't had a problem... hmm... maybe I should remove it...
[02:26] <BigLebowski> Fujitsu, i say this while using dpkg selections :D
[02:27] <mheath> BigLebowski, How lazy do you have to be to use a computer?
[02:27] <JazziB> !apt-get
[02:27] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:27] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, I was trying to upgrade googlearth (I got GE off of automatix)
[02:27] <mheath> BigLebowski, Computers are about making your life easier. :)
[02:27] <JazziB> ok
[02:27] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: Don't bother removing it... Once you've used it once, you've likely done the damage.
[02:27] <BigLebowski> mheath: Unless you use linux, in which case, that goes out the window ;-)
[02:27] <tallman> Fujitsu, do you have vrms running regularly ?)))
[02:27] <Rondom> sorry
[02:27] <tallman> !vrms
[02:27] <Smotang> Hi, I have a problem reading off a DVD drive I keep coming up against an I/O error is there any way to download the data from the DVD? I know that it is possible in XP using a program called dataroller or somesuch, do we have a program in linux that is equal to that?
[02:27] <Fujitsu> SubMOA: Just expect enormous explosions if you try to upgrade to the next Ubuntu release.
[02:27] <ubotu> vrms: virtual Richard M. Stallman. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.11 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 92 kB
[02:27] <SubMOA> Fujitsu, that's not encouraging... hmm... what kind of damage and how can I go about fixing it?
[02:27] <Fujitsu> tallman: Pardon?
[02:28] <LjL> !medibuntu > SubMOA    (SubMOA, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:28] <LjL> SubMOA: this is an unofficial repository that features a Google Earth package
[02:28] <LjL> no need for autoanything
[02:28] <tallman> Fujitsu, try vrms
[02:28] <BigLebowski> Automatix doesnt cause any damage, other than not failing gracefully, if i recall.
[02:28] <Sp4rKy> SubMOA: take a look at http://medibuntu.sos-sts.org if you want information about medibuntu
[02:28] <Fujitsu> tallman: I know about it, but I don't use it, cause I don't use non-free stuff.
[02:28] <Fujitsu> BigLebowski: THen why did most users Edgy upgrades fail? Got you there...
[02:28] <LjL> BigLebowski: if you define "not failing gracefully" as "keeping going even if you're running the wrong version of it for your distribution, and thereby installing a wrong libc version", then yeah
[02:28] <tallman> even rar, unrar ?
[02:29] <SubMOA> LjL, thanks! Sp4rKy I will... can I "undo" my automatix stuff and restart w/o wiping everything?
[02:29] <Fujitsu> tallman: Urgh. Why would I want to use RAR?
[02:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> is there any other support channels for ubuntu since nobody here can help with fstab?
[02:29] <BigLebowski> Installing the wrong libc? ouch!
[02:29] <BigLebowski> Sorry, i didn't know that.
[02:29] <baggito> Hi. i'm having trouble adding a user for SSH login. I tried using the users-admin tool, but it doesn't add anything to /etc/passwd and the next time i start it, the user isn't there. I tried using useradd but it complains that the group is already present. the group! any ideas?
[02:29] <BigLebowski> I stand corrected.
[02:29] <LjL> SubMOA: hardly... but if your system, right now, is working OK, i suppose you can just remove the automatix packages and hope everything's ok
[02:29] <BigLebowski> I've never used it myself, just read a few posts about it on the mailing list.
[02:30] <tallman> Fujitsu, are you running gnewsense ?
[02:30] <EdgEy> does anyone know of a good program i can use to monitor net usage ?
[02:30] <tallman> EdgEy, conky
[02:30] <baggito> EdgEy: iftop works fine for bandwidth monitoring in a terminal
[02:30] <Fujitsu> tallman: No, as I would find developing Ubuntu a little irritating on gNewSense.
[02:30] <BigLebowski> I never saw the point in automatix anyway, it's easy enough to install them yourself.
[02:30] <EdgEy> i have a monthly limit during peak times, 12pm-7am is unlimited
[02:30] <SubMOA> LjL, hmm.. darn maybe I will back up important stuff and just start clean.
[02:30] <LjL> BigLebowski: indeed, the whole APT structure was created for that...
[02:31] <EdgEy> well, i need more than just the current bandwidth usage, like a log of what's been used over the last month or so.
[02:31] <barosl> hey hey
[02:31] <SubMOA> howdy
[02:31] <barosl> i need a program to draw lines on my desktop screen
[02:31] <barosl> anyone knows?
[02:31] <BigLebowski> Ubuntu needs an unstable repo, so i can install newer software without compiling from source.
[02:31] <BigLebowski> barlos1, why would you wanna draw lines?
[02:31] <barosl> such as http://www.roggel.com/NGNeer/DesktopGraffitist/UScreenshots/UScreenshot01-W430.jpg
[02:31] <Fujitsu> BigLebowski: A lot of people say that, and I believe it has been thought about.
[02:31] <tallman> BigLebowski, backports?
[02:32] <dhaval> when is the next version going stable?
[02:32] <Fujitsu> dhaval: April 19th.
[02:32] <barosl> dhaval, you mean feisty? April 5th
[02:32] <barosl> what? 19th?
[02:32] <EdgEy> it's mid april or so
[02:32] <Fujitsu> 19th.
[02:32] <Factory> Hey guys, I'm still ont he lookout for an application that'll allow me to stream a videofile as if it's a webcam cast... as in display a video instead of my webcam feed.
[02:32] <dhaval> barosl: its called feisty?
[02:32] <BigLebowski> Backports isn't exactly complete.
[02:33] <barosl> dhaval, yeap
[02:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> you know I would rather someone just acknowledge the fact I am asking for help and not help me other than not acknowledging the fact that I exist in the channel
[02:33] <SpudULike> Hi room.  I am trying out Evolution as a mail client, I fancied a change from KMail.  The message pane in Evolution opens at the bottom of the message.  Anyone know of a way to get it to show the top of the message from the start?
[02:33] <dhaval> how good an idea is it to keep porting to the latest distro version?
[02:33] <Fujitsu> Ubuntu 7.04 "The Feisty Fawn" is the full title.
[02:34] <EdgEy> dhaval, i see no problem with keeping up to date :p
[02:34] <tallman> SpudULike, why not Thunderbird?
[02:34] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, what kind of help do you need with fstan
[02:34] <Factory> stab*
[02:34] <foutrelis> Has anyone installed Gnome 2.18 on Edgy?
[02:34] <dhaval> EdgEy: well, generally with other distros i tend to wait for some time (and esp with windoze :) )
[02:35] <foutrelis> dhaval: no need for waiting with linux distros :)
[02:35] <EdgEy> windows is kind of radically different with each upgrade, linux distros are incremental
[02:35] <SpudULike> tallman, no real reason, just chose Evolution first.  You reckon Thunderbird is good?
[02:35] <tallman> !Thunderbird
[02:35] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[02:36] <tallman> SpudULike, not sure, but more popular anyway...I'm not using any
[02:36] <SpudULike> tallman, I know what it is, indeed, I have set it up for my mother on her windows machine.
[02:37] <dhaval> foutrelis: on the contrary, we really need to wait with anything new
[02:37] <BigLebowski> I like thunderbird :-)
[02:37] <SpudULike> I suppose I really chose Evolution because it seemed to be the most default client on Ubuntu.
[02:37] <Yodude> hey i need an islamic prayer times application for ubuntu, is there any good one out there?
[02:37] <TL_CLD> Ubuntu 6.10: Is there an alternative menu editor? Alacarte is acting really weird. It refuses to save my changes, and more often than not it wont even "activate" new menus..
[02:37] <dhaval> foutrelis: ubuntu 6.10 refuses to install on my core 2 box, and fc's 64 bit version never installs cleanly
[02:37] <N3WB> Anyone know where installed programs (like VLC Media player) is stored?
[02:37] <dhaval> N3WB: try to locate it
[02:37] <BigLebowski> N3WB: whereis <appname>
[02:38] <baggito> dpkg -L vlc   N3WB will show you all the files it installed too
[02:38] <BigLebowski> Ususally in /usr/local/bin or any of the other bin directories,
[02:38] <foutrelis> dhaval: Well. You can always try it and if you are not happy with it just keep the previous version :)
[02:38] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Why do you not have udf,iso9660 as its type
[02:38] <N3WB> thanks
[02:38] <disposable> can feisty handle AHCI sata mode or do i need to switch to IDE mode?
[02:38] <foutrelis> dhaval: By installing on a seperate partition I mean.
[02:38] <dhaval> foutrelis: well, it should install proper first :)
[02:38] <rausb0> !info aircrack-ng
[02:38] <ubotu> aircrack-ng: Wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 460 kB
[02:39] <foutrelis> dhaval: LiveCDs ^.^
[02:39] <dhaval> foutrelis: grub was corrupted on install (a clean one mind you), and i was really not in the mood to debug it that day
[02:39] <dhaval> foutrelis: the livecds work, but, it should install right.. :)
[02:39] <Yodude> i need an islamic prayer times application for ubuntu, is there any good one out there?
[02:39] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: i did its just I have been trying so many different things to get it working.  it was exactly like /media/cdrom0 and it didn't work also this is a fresh install of edgy
[02:39] <foutrelis> dhaval: Just boot with Super Grub Disk and restore grub to BMR :)
[02:39] <BigLebowski> Yodude, Can't help ya there, sorry
[02:39] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, I see. What is the drive? rw, r ?
[02:40] <Factory> or just a cdrom
[02:40] <dhaval> foutrelis: what is the super grub disk?
[02:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: rw
[02:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> dvdrw
[02:40] <tallman> Yodude, consult the guys from Arabic linux
[02:40] <Yodude> BigLebowski: then can you help me with my existing .BIN file? the problem is that it says it need java to be installed, i downloaded it but still doesn't install!
[02:40] <redmonkey> i've got sound issues when playing a dvd movie. it interrupts every 3 seconds for half a second. anybody knows that problem and knows how to solve it please?
[02:40] <foutrelis> dhaval: A bootable cd with a few options like restoring grub to the mbr, booting linux etc
[02:41] <ferronica> can anyone tell me how do i burn my .bin and .cue file using k3b?????
[02:41] <Yodude> tallman: do they have a website?
[02:41] <dhaval> foutrelis: where do i get it from?
[02:41] <foutrelis> dhaval: It has saved me quite some times :)
[02:41] <dhaval> foutrelis: fwiw, i don't mind debugging grub directly.. did a lot of it, just was not in the mood that day :(
[02:41] <BigLebowski> Yodude: have you installed java? or is that the problem?
[02:42] <foutrelis> dhaval: sgd homepage seems to be moved :S
[02:42] <foutrelis> *have been
[02:42] <Yodude> BigLebwoski: i did, from the repo, + the firefox plugin
[02:42] <BigLebowski> Yodude, So it's working then?
[02:42] <Yodude> BigLebwoski: i don't know what it's still missing
[02:42] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, just for kicks, try out : /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:42] <BigLebowski> Yodude: what is the bin file your trying to run?
[02:42] <Yodude> BigLebwoski: java is but the installation of the prayer app no
[02:43] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory i just finished doing that :)
[02:43] <[BTF] Chm0d> still no go
[02:43] <baggito> oh never mind. i used the -r switch to create a 'system' account
[02:43] <dhaval> foutrelis: seem to have found http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[02:43] <Factory> gauhg.
[02:43] <tallman> Yodude, http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=arabian
[02:43] <Yodude> BigLebwoski: in the propreties it says it's a shell script. the website told me to run it with the command "sh"
[02:43] <[BTF] Chm0d> do I have to restart fstab or anything after making changes?
[02:43] <Yodude> tallman: i'll check that out thnkx
[02:43] <Factory> yes, you need to mount/remount
[02:43] <foutrelis> dhaval: Yeah! This is it ^.^
[02:44] <Factory> kay dude
[02:44] <dhaval> foutrelis: what do you know.. sometimes google does work :)
[02:44] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, try out mount -a
[02:44] <Factory> after you've finished making changed.
[02:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> i did Factory
[02:44] <Factory> changes*
[02:44] <Factory> gdi.
[02:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> still permissions denied
[02:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only
[02:44] <kaiden> Anyone here had experience running edgy on a Core 2 Duo (Asus P5B) motherboard, i know a while ago it just wouldn't install due to the jMicron bugs in the kernel. It installed fine for me with a 2 hd (installed on hd1) multi-partition setup however my network driver appears to not function correctly. It gives no errors i just can't get it working, dhcp never finds an address, when i static config it i always get destination host unreachable
[02:44] <Factory> and you did it with sudo
[02:44] <Factory> ah
[02:44] <Factory> try with sudo?
[02:45] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[02:45] <kaiden> it's using the marvell gigabit lan onboard nic
[02:45] <Factory> sudo mount -a
[02:45] <Factory> usually read only is because a user less than super used tried  to do something.
[02:45] <Factory> super user*
[02:45] <Yodude> BigLebwoski: i'll download the file from Softpedia now n retry, maybe i downloaded something a bit wrong
[02:45] <axisys> is there a wireless client that will keep me connected while I am on the road?
[02:46] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: i just got the same thing using sudo mount
[02:46] <dhaval> kaiden: it refused to boo for me..
[02:46] <Factory> hm
[02:46] <dhaval> kaiden: s/boo/boot
[02:46] <axisys> i am looking for one that will just find a open wireless connection and connect me to it without me manually reconnect using wlassistant
[02:46] <kaiden> dhaval :( not looking good, i downloaded xubuntu Desktop cd but it won't boot for me either i get some crap about tty's being in use
[02:47] <lisapc> how can I decompress rar files pls?
[02:47] <foutrelis> dhaval: What was your search string? With "super grub disk" I can't find any useful results on the first page.
[02:47] <tallman> lisapc, install unrar
[02:47] <BigLebowski> lisapc: install rar, sudo apt-get install rar
[02:47] <dhaval> kaiden: well, the first result's cached file showed me the link
[02:47] <axisys> wlassistant already does that? searching for active connection and connect me to it?
[02:47] <BigLebowski> Or unrar as tallman said.
[02:47] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Not sure if this'll work, but try sudo mount -w /dev/hdb
[02:47] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: what is the 400 and 401 in this?  -rwx------ 1 400 401    4581 2005-07-15 13:20 0x0409.ini
[02:47] <dhaval> sorry.. that ws meant for foutrelis
[02:47] <dhaval> foutrelis: well, the first result's cached file showed me the link
[02:47] <foutrelis> dhaval: oh! smart :)
[02:48] <dhaval> kaiden: i actually had boot loader problems
[02:48] <Factory> qthose are the permissions.
[02:48] <dhaval> foutrelis: thanks! :)
[02:48] <kaiden> dhaval, hrm, i'm not having boot problems. my os boots and runs fine
[02:48] <ferronica> can anyone tell me how do i burn my .bin and .cue file using k3b?????
[02:48] <Yoy> its ok to install synaptic on xubuntu?
[02:48] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, One sec, I'll grab a link that'll better explain that.
[02:48] <kaiden> it's the network side of things
[02:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: i get this mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected but explicit `-w' flag given
[02:48] <dhaval> [BTF] Chm0d: do you have a writable disc inside
[02:48] <dhaval> [BTF] Chm0d: by writable i mean, you can burn it
[02:48] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask
[02:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> this is weird cuz i can cd my cdrom0 with no problems whatsoever
[02:49] <Factory> That'll tell you what those numbers mean'
[02:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> no i do not quake4 is in the dvd drivve
[02:49] <dhaval> well, then it *will* be read only!
[02:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> im assuming the 400 401 are root only
[02:49] <dhaval> can you read the disk?
[02:49] <Factory> Hah, dude take out the cds
[02:49] <Yodude> BigLebwoski: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10762/
[02:49] <kaiden> Anyone think that maybe compiling the latest kernel will fix my problems with onboard lan on the Asus p5b not functioning?
[02:49] <axisys> anyone know the answer?
[02:49] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Disk's are going to be read only -.-
[02:50] <Yodude> Biglebowski: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10762/
[02:50] <dhaval> kaiden: what is your current kernel version?
[02:50] <axisys> if wlassistant look for active connection and connect me while i am on the road?
[02:50] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Unless they are, of course, rw disks (or blank)
[02:50] <tallman> kaiden, why not try?
[02:50] <BigLebowski> Yodude: Your java installation either didn't work properly, or your missing a library
[02:50] <[BTF] Chm0d> no they are not
[02:50] <Yodude> BigLebowski: this is the error i'm getting, although i have Sun Java
[02:50] <dhaval> tallman: well, if he is on a new enough kernel itreally does not make much difference
[02:50] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, If you have a disk, such as quake4, in your frive, it'll be read-only.
[02:51] <kaiden> dhaval, currently, whatever comes on edgy 6.10
[02:51] <Yodude> BigLebowski: do you think it may be because of my version, i'm using Sun Java 5
[02:51] <kaiden> i believe 2.6.17?
[02:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> but i should still be able to view the files as user
[02:51] <lisapc> tallman, ty :)
[02:51] <lisapc> BigLebowski, thanks
[02:51] <zyth> My issue is as follows: I can connect to my system via ssh on my 192 and 127 IP.  I can telnet to port 22 and get the OpenSSH prompt on my external IP.  I cannot, however, get an ssh connection on my internal IP.  Any ideas?
[02:51] <dhaval> kaiden: which is 2.6.17
[02:51] <BigLebowski> yodude: Sorry, i can't really help, i don't use java, you may want to google "libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[02:51] <dhaval> kaiden: yep, it might make a difference.. (IIRC, 2.6.19 supported 945 and onwards first, so yes, it would be good)
[02:52] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Were you able to access the device sans disk?
[02:52] <Yodude> BigLebowski: you heped me enough though thnkx
[02:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> sans disk?
[02:52] <Factory> without a disk.
[02:52] <jrib> Yodude: I've received a similar error, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2184587 for clues (last post)
[02:52] <lisapc> what ;ports do socks proxy use?
[02:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> how would i do that Factory
[02:53] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Take out the disk.
[02:53] <kaiden> dhaval, ok, kinda nervous.. :P I haven't ran linux in about 4 years (not since i started working near microsoft campus) all of the companies around here are anti *nix
[02:53] <kaiden> dhaval, thanks for your help
[02:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> i took it out nothing is in there now
[02:53] <axisys> please help with wlassistant
[02:53] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Good. What are the permissions on the device now?
[02:53] <Yodude> jrib: i'll check it out
[02:53] <axisys> or direct me to a irc chnl
[02:53] <redmonkey> i've got sound issues when playing a dvd movie. it interrupts every 3 seconds for half a second. anybody knows that problem and knows how to solve it please? thanks.
[02:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> how do i get the permissions?
[02:53] <t7vu> is anyone running ubuntu on an ibm thinkpad t20?
[02:54] <dhaval> kaiden: its no rocket science :). so, you will do well, i am sure
[02:54] <BigLebowski> t7vu: I have it on a T23, if that helps
[02:54] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: brw-rw-rw- 1 0 24 3, 64 2007-03-16 16:16 /dev/hdb
[02:54] <dhaval> kaiden: lol.. like the idea of linux running in the middle of m$ land :)
[02:54] <BigLebowski> redmonkey: do you have libdvdcss?
[02:54] <t7vu> biglebowski, are you having any problems with detecing your ethernet card?
[02:54] <BigLebowski> t7vu: not at all, i just added an entry in /etc/network/interfaces.
[02:55] <tallman> kaiden, howto copile a kernel in ubuntu http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[02:55] <tallman> compile*
[02:55] <t7vu> ah okay... great, thanks for your help!
[02:55] <BigLebowski> t7vu: Have you tried network manager?
[02:55] <dhaval> tallman: ah, i prefer the standard technique.. its distro independent
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> redmonkey: sounds like you might need to enalbe dma
[02:56] <BigLebowski> Or is the card just not detected?
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> !dma | redmonkey
[02:56] <redmonkey> BigLebowski: i can play dvd movies, so i guess i have libdvdcss.
[02:56] <ubotu> redmonkey: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[02:56] <dhaval> kaiden: btw, i suggest that you do not use the default gcc version on edgy
[02:56] <redmonkey> IndyGunFreak: i cant enable DMA mode on a S-ATA II drive. i already tried it
[02:56] <BigLebowski> dhval: whats wrong with gcc on edgy?
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> redmonkey: hmm, no clue then
[02:56] <t7vu> biglebowski, yes, i was in there but didn't have much luck
[02:56] <dhaval> kaiden: i did have some problems with it (then again, i was running a pure experimental kernel, though even vanilla failed)
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> i don't see why you couldn't though
[02:56] <K3nto> could somebody helo me trouble shoot my sound?
[02:56] <jrib> BigLebowski: what do you believe is wrong with it?
[02:56] <dhaval> BigLebowski: ^^
[02:57] <jrib> BigLebowski: erm, never mind
[02:57] <kaiden> dhaval, well at the moment what i'm having to do is run windows to download what i need to compile on that side
[02:57] <BigLebowski> t7vu: Theres a thinkpad forum, you could try posting there.
[02:57] <Lattyware> brno223: Doesn't that involve very little?
[02:57] <dhaval> kaiden: what are you on atm?
[02:57] <Lattyware> :P
[02:57] <BigLebowski> dhaval: I've had no problems compiling under edgy, after installing build-essential that is
[02:57] <t7vu> biglebowski, it's worth a shot.... thanks for the tip
[02:57] <dhaval> jrib: ah, finally ubuntu-destop, 80% done
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> brno223: why would you want to run utorrent under wine?.. KTorrent, BitTorrent, Azeurus, are all more than acceptable linux native torrent clients
[02:57] <dhaval> BigLebowski: well, my kernel locked up
[02:57] <K3nto>  could somebody help me trouble shoot my no-sound prolem in ubuntu
[02:57] <brno223> Lattyware: very little indeed, it was very easy
[02:57] <K3nto> !sound
[02:57] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:58] <dhaval> BigLebowski: i downgraded to gcc-3.4 and compiled, and there were no issues
[02:58] <[BTF] Chm0d> did you get this Factory brw-rw-rw- 1 0 24 3, 64 2007-03-16 16:16 /dev/hdb
[02:58] <BigLebowski> dhaval: i have no idea, I'm using a previously compiled kernel, so i dunno about kernel compilation under edgy
[02:58] <BigLebowski> dhaval: but my apps compile fine under edgy :-/
[02:58] <dhaval> BigLebowski: OTOH, gcc on FC 6 (4.1.x), i had no issues
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> brno223: but why?
[02:58] <kaiden> this is what i'm wondering, can i skip all of this conjecture with edgy and go straight to feisty
[02:58] <kaiden> is it stable enough to just play around with?
[02:58] <dhaval> BigLebowski: i have not had any app compile problems. well, the kernel is quite tricky
[02:59] <kaiden> i would hope so considering it releases in a months time
[02:59] <brno223> IndyGun..: why not?
[02:59] <dhaval> BigLebowski: don't want unwanted compiler optimizations
[02:59] <BigLebowski> dhaval: fair enough, i'll try compiling a kernel later.
[02:59] <dhaval> kaiden: why not?
[02:59] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, ah thank you.
[02:59] <berent> join #zope3-dev
[02:59] <enyc> Note! something is wrong buth ubotu -- if asked about !codecs seems to give no answer at all...
[02:59] <enyc> !codecs
[02:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:59] <brno223> uTorrent much to be preferred to Azureus...
[02:59] <enyc> when asked with /msg this is
[02:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: no thank  YOU for trying to help me
[03:00] <BigLebowski> brno223: KTorrent isn't bad. Az is a wee bit heavy.
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> brno223: and why is that?
[03:00] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Thank me when we get it working ;)
[03:00] <kaiden> dhaval, ok then possibly i need a different question answered, whenever i attempt to boot from the Desktop cd of Feisty herd5 i get this error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[03:00] <dhaval> kaiden: i guess if you are not running any critical code running, you can always go for some experimentiation :)
[03:00] <peter77> ia it possible to recover deleted files?
[03:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> ill do that to
[03:00] <enyc> peter77: erm... how deleted?
[03:00] <kaiden> dhaval, no in all honesty im just trying to get back to my roots
[03:00] <enyc> peter77: if you have deleted them in gnome... they have gone into wastebasket/trash
[03:00] <kaiden> i used to dev on linux and refused to use any other os, i miss the complexity
[03:00] <dhaval> kaiden: ah.. tty -> seemst to be unable to access the display (i think..)
[03:00] <peter77> enyc, trash can then emptied deleted
[03:01] <enyc> peter77: which means they are in .Trash-peter77 folder
[03:01] <enyc> peter77: aah
[03:01] <dhaval> kaiden: complexity?
[03:01] <enyc> peter77: erm not really... what filesystem were they on?
[03:01] <peter77> ext3
[03:01] <enyc> peter77: on ext3 linux hard disk? on a FAT12/16/32 p?
[03:01] <dhaval> kaiden: i think it is far simpler to develop on a *nix as compare to windoze
[03:01] <peter77> ext3
[03:01] <enyc> peter77: not really  then... youd need to search for the data sectors
[03:01] <K3nto> somebody help me with my no-sound problem?
[03:01] <FrOzenBit> hey guys! is there a way to get teamspeak running on ubuntu?
[03:01] <enyc> peter77: ext3 undelete = not really
[03:01] <kaiden> dhaval, well, you have to understand, the last time i ran linux.... there was no ubuntu :) and redhat was still in it's release 4 state
[03:01] <kaiden> things were a tad different back then
[03:01] <BigLebowski> dhval: there are alot more variables deving on linux.
[03:02] <enyc> peter77: restore from backup ;-)
[03:02] <dhaval> kaiden: :)
[03:02] <dhaval> BigLebowski: one of them being gcc :)
[03:02] <peter77> so that isn't as easy as it is on ntfs
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> brno223: how is Utorrent so much better than azeurus?
[03:02] <peter77> backup?
[03:02] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Gonna try to umount then re-mount the drives again. sudo umount -o /dev/hdb && sudo mount -o /dev/hdb
[03:02] <BigLebowski> libc version, which librarys are where, useless bloody compiler errors/warnings.
[03:02] <Lattyware> IndyGunFreak: It doesn't eat your memory, for a start
[03:02] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[03:02] <Lattyware> IndyGunFreak: It's cleaner, faster, etc...
[03:02] <dhaval> BigLebowski: what i basically meant was that it is far simpler to develop on linux as you have far more *standard* tools available.. eg, gcc
[03:02] <Lattyware> Even under wine.
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> ok,
[03:02] <BigLebowski> Aha, fair enough, got ya
[03:02] <enyc> peter77: due to the way linux ext3 works ... you cant really undelet things... ext2 is somewhat possible... can be done on FAT... depending how os removeds the dir entries and fragmentation
[03:03] <enyc> peter77: ntfs is a proprietary filesystem...
[03:03] <FrOzenBit> is teamspeak running on ubuntu with wine?
[03:03] <BigLebowski> Any dev i do on windows is normally .NET anyway, i kinda got away from C on windows.
[03:03] <kestaz_> what i need to run after install ?
[03:03] <enyc> peter77: you should never rely on undelete on any filesystem really.. its a risky business
[03:03] <enyc> peter77: what do you know about ntfs undelete anyway?
[03:03] <dhaval> kaiden: wonder if this helps you.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346469
[03:03] <tallman> has anyone tried to run linux on ntfs file system ?))
[03:03] <peter77> cool, so once a file is deleted on linux it is deleted?
[03:03] <kestaz_> setup was going.. i am silly turn off the computer.. but gentoo works..
[03:03] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: umount: invalid option -- o
[03:03] <dhaval> kaiden: first hit on google :)
[03:03] <BigLebowski> tallman, read/write is  buggy enough, let alone trying to run linux on ntfs.
[03:04] <enyc> peter77: well its hard to get back on EXT3 ... deuo to the way the structure works...
[03:04] <BigLebowski> ntfs is a piece of crap, i hope they do better with winfs, and release the standards/docs/reference material
[03:04] <enyc> peter77: data blocks are NOT overwritten by default!
[03:04] <tallman> BigLebowski, ntfs-3g ?
[03:04] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, my mistake... sudo umount -a -o /dv/hdb %% sudo mount -o /dev/hdb
[03:04] <enyc> peter77: so you shouldnt conseider it "secure" from that point of view
[03:04] <BigLebowski> tallman: it's still not perfect, more stable and reliable, but not perfect.
[03:04] <Factory> make that /dev
[03:04] <Factory> /dev/hdb*
[03:04] <Factory> Christ -.-
[03:05] <tallman> nothing is perfect =)
[03:05] <BigLebowski> I also fail to see why you'd want to run linux on NTFS.
[03:05] <Factory> What peter77 really meant: I have an extremely illegal file and the cops are coming right now. Is it COMPLETELY gone forever so I don't get hauled off?
[03:06] <BigLebowski> Linux on ext2/3 is fine, and a home partition as ext2/3 mounted in windows with ext2fs drivers
[03:06] <enyc> peter77: Factory ;-)
[03:06] <enyc> Factory: ;-) lol
[03:06] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: it doesn't like the option -o
[03:06] <Factory> =p
[03:06] <enyc> Factory: badlocks -wvs can be handy ;-)
[03:06] <nut543> bleh.. Have anyone gotten swfdec-mozilla to build?
[03:06] <tallman> !jfs
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <berent> !plone
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <berent> ! plone
[03:07] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Capital O
[03:07] <berent> ! zope
[03:07] <Factory> yar.
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zope - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <Factory> Really not on the ball today
[03:08] <etchris> Someone tell me good dvd player software?
[03:08] <maxagaz> is there a soft to make video conference between linux and windows ?
[03:08] <tallman> !torrentflux
[03:08] <ubotu> torrentflux: web based, feature-rich BitTorrent download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 410 kB, installed size 2688 kB
[03:09] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: her is the output http://pastebin.ca/398731
[03:09] <etchris> Someone tell me good dvd player software please?
[03:09] <Ind[y] > Hello. How can I write a kernel image file, to my USB, sector-by-sector (to be able to boot from USB)?
[03:09] <tallman> has anyone tried torrentflux ?
[03:09] <berent> has anyone installed plone here
[03:09] <BigLebowski> etchris: VLC
[03:09] <BigLebowski> tallman: Torrentflux is cool.
[03:10] <dhaval> kaiden: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com/msg00385.html even this seems to  be useful
[03:10] <tallman> BigLebowski, thanks, then I'll try it
[03:10] <berent> has anyone installed plone/zope here
[03:11] <tallman> berent, nope
[03:11] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, -.- keep the -a with the mount command as well. sudo mount -a -O /dev/hdb
[03:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: did you get that output?  http://pastebin.ca/398731
[03:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> LO
[03:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[03:12] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d,  Yes I did sir
[03:12] <madsrh> can I update Feisty Fawn Herd 5 to the beta or even the final realease?
[03:12] <[BTF] Chm0d> k idid that
[03:12] <tallman> maddler, yes
[03:12] <tallman> ofcourse!
[03:12] <K3nto> can somebody help me with my sound issue?
[03:13] <Factory> Did the output include /media/cdrom0
[03:13] <kaiden> dhaval, neither of those bode well for me
[03:13] <kaiden> more or less just people saying nyah nyah you are screwed because you have a high end mobo / cpu
[03:13] <kaiden> :P
[03:13] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: i had no output when i did that
[03:13] <[BTF] Chm0d> this time
[03:14] <TheVault> Good morning everyone. I need some help, I keep installing and unistalling Ubuntu cause I keep screwing up something when installing wireless. Can someone take me on a 1 on 1 help session so I can get this right and not have to unistall it again. I use Ubuntu on my desktop just fine because I don't have to use wireless
[03:14] <dhaval> kaiden: lol
[03:14] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Alright. Try it now and let me know what happens
[03:14] <dhaval> kaiden: well, you can always try the kernel update first
[03:14] <Crazytom> TheVault, what kind of card are you using
[03:14] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[03:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: brw-rw-rw- 1 0 24 3, 64 2007-03-16 16:16 /dev/hdb
[03:15] <TheVault> Crazytom: You probably guessed it yourself but its a Broadcom 43xx and I'm using WPA-PSK(WPA2) security
[03:15] <Factory> now try putting a disk in
[03:15] <TheVault> Broadcom 4311 to be exact
[03:15] <Crazytom> TheVault, i assume you've tried it without the wpa?
[03:15] <TheVault> Crazytom: Well WEP has flaws
[03:16] <Crazytom> TheVault, i assume you've tried it without any security?
[03:16] <TheVault> Crazytom: What do you mean without any security?
[03:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> Factory: i just tried putting in a DVD and i still have no permissions LOL
[03:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> :(
[03:17] <Crazytom> TheVault, no wep no wpa no mac address filtering just to see if it works
[03:17] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, Well that's frustrating.
[03:17] <TheVault> Crazytom: No not really, cause I'm afraid that someone will get into my network
[03:17] <Crazytom> TheVault, not suggesting anything permanently
[03:17] <TheVault> Crazytom: it only takes a few mins of unprotection to get hacked
[03:18] <[BTF] Chm0d> i dont understand whey i have this problem on fresh install of edgy by default i should have access to my own drives =)
[03:18] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, The most I can tell you at the moment is to just chill in here for a bit until someone else with a better understanding comes in. Or try your hand at dalnet or some other network... although they aren't quite as friendly there =)
[03:18] <Crazytom> TheVault, what are they going to do?  look at porn for five minutes?
[03:19] <TheVault> Crazytom: You got a point but then I would have to hear complaining from my parents for messing with the security, but I guess I could give it a whirl
[03:19] <kaiden> dhaval, i seem to have just a horrible combination of hardware, it appears that the dev's slipped in a bug that has yet to be fixed in the latest kernel releases that makes that /sbin/tty error come up repeatedly .. so edgy works but the network device doesn't work, the latest kernel that the network device works in.. edgy doesn't
[03:19] <kaiden> i'm wondering if it would just be more productive to go buy a stinking pci network adapter
[03:19] <kaiden> and call it a day :P
[03:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok well nonetheless I really do appreciate the help you have given me it is better to be acknowledged n here even though what needed fixing doesn't get fixed it is still greatly appreciated by me anyways thx\
[03:19] <Winball> :)
[03:19] <TheVault> Anyway, I was working with Ndiswrapper last night and everything was going alright, until I got to the part where you make so and so file and add so and so in it and do some crazy stuff
[03:19] <Crazytom> TheVault, are they using the wireless right now?
[03:19] <TheVault> Crazytom: No, everyones asleep
[03:20] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d,  Heh, no worries dude. And while you wait there's always the ubuntu forums.. you could search that to see if anyone else has had a problem with that. That's just kinda nuts. My optical drives always worked.
[03:20] <Crazytom> TheVault, then just put it back
[03:20] <TheVault> Crazytom: well i'm installing ubuntu right now, on the LIVE CD
[03:20] <dhaval> kaiden: how does the kernel make a difference?
[03:20] <przemo> siem jest kto??
[03:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> yea i have done that already that hasn't been much help either
[03:20] <Crazytom> TheVault, hold on for a sec
[03:20] <sarixe> hey, i'm having a problem with vmware player.  I tried installing it yesterday, and the install script from the deb gave me an exit status 1.  now it runs the install script every time i want to install something.  i tried uninstalling it, but then it gave me exit status 1 on the uninstall.  is there any way to get this to go away?
[03:20] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, You might also check to see if there's  a specific problem with the exact model of the drive. Some hardware isn't supported under nux yet... but to have an optical not is odd.
[03:20] <dhaval> kaiden: use a kernel from http://www.kernel.org
[03:20] <TheVault> Crazytom: alrighty
[03:21] <[BTF] Chm0d> thats the funny thing its worked before just fine....
[03:21] <BigLebowski> dhaval: is it possible to apply the ubuntu patches to a vanilla kernel?
[03:21] <[BTF] Chm0d> ive been on ubuntu for over a year
[03:21] <Crazytom> TheVault, have you installed fwcutter?
[03:21] <zyth> where is inetd.conf in edgy?
[03:21] <TheVault> Crazytom: I'm installing ubuntu right now and using the LIVE CD so I have not done nothing but installing right now
[03:21] <kaiden> dhaval, that's what i downloaded
[03:21] <dhaval> BigLebowski: it is, but it is a major pain
[03:22] <BigLebowski> dhaval: so not worth it then?
[03:22] <Cyrus25801> can i loginto ubuntu with windowsxp remote desktop
[03:22] <Crazytom> well it would be pointless to disable security right now then
[03:22] <dhaval> BigLebowski: well, you can use the morton kernels, those are bleeding edge
[03:22] <jpjacobs> Cyrus25801, use putty+Xming :)
[03:22] <TheVault> Crazytom: thats why I have not done so yet
[03:22] <Crazytom> TheVault, have you installed it at any point in the past?
[03:22] <dhaval> kaiden: and that is not owrking?
[03:22] <BigLebowski> dhaval: ehh ok, i should just cry 'DIFF!!!"
[03:22] <Crazytom> TheVault, fwcutter i meant
[03:22] <TheVault> Crazytom: Yes, Iv used this tutorial, lemme find it
[03:22] <gumpish> Anyone know what the .thumbnails directory in the home dir is used by? Just nautilus?
[03:23] <dhaval> BigLebowski: :)
[03:23] <kaiden> dhaval, won't know for a bit, covering a few basis, i'm downloading the latest dvd of Sabayon and if i can't get edgy working with this new kernel and can't get feisty working
[03:23] <kaiden> i'm going to install it
[03:23] <kaiden> because i have a few people saying they have my exact hardware make up and having no problems running sabayon 3.3
[03:23] <TheVault> Crazytom: hold, taking a min for firefox to load up
[03:23] <lcandell> /lfs1
[03:23] <Cyrus25801> jpjacobs: so i must install putty+Xming and then i can use xp to loginto ubuntu (will it work the othe way round)
[03:23] <dhaval> kaiden: hmmm.. try the 32 bit versions of fc even.. (i use them, and i use a similar config to yours)
[03:24] <kaiden> fc? fedora core?
[03:24] <kaiden> sorry, reacquainting myself with the lingo ;p
[03:24] <dhaval> kaiden: yeah
[03:24] <dhaval> kaiden: np :)
[03:25] <ott0> what do the deb and deb-src commands in front of the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list mean? you can'
[03:25] <foutrelis> Can someone tell me how I could install Gnome 2.18 on Edgy?
[03:25] <ott0> t run them in the console
[03:25] <Factory> [BTF] Chm0d, If you want to hang out for a sec, I'm asking a friend of mine.
[03:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> ill be here
[03:25] <Crazytom> i just saw a bestbuy commercial "must be virus free" and then they show her a computer with vista on it........
[03:25] <dhaval> ok, this is really weird.. i download an entire package, and at 99% it hangs!
[03:25] <kaiden> vista's the biggest pile of crap to ever come out of ms :(
[03:25] <BigLebowski> kaiden: That would be ME
[03:26] <TheVault> Crazytom: Iv used this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 but I used the file wl_apsta.o
[03:26] <kaiden> ok second biggest pile of crap
[03:26] <kaiden> :P
[03:26] <kaiden> millennium was pretty bad hehe
[03:26] <dhaval> kaiden: i like your opinions :)
[03:26] <TheVault> Crazytom: Not sure if thats the file I'm supposed to be using, just followed that tutorial
[03:26] <BigLebowski> Vista has some good ideas in it, other than that, i won't touch it. Take your TPM, Protection this and that, wga and stick it.
[03:27] <livingdaylight> Hi
[03:27] <kaiden> vista started off in the right direction then ms realized how big an undertaking an entire os rewrite was
[03:27] <shane634> good ideas yes... no worky though
[03:27] <Cyrus25801> jpjacobs: so i must install putty+Xming and then i can use xp to loginto ubuntu (will it work the othe way round)
[03:27] <livingdaylight> Q: Can somone help me with my Samba?
[03:27] <kaiden> so they screwed it all up building off of old source
[03:27] <BigLebowski> The moment controll of my computer goes out of my hands and into mr billy gates or steve jobs hands, then they can piss off.
[03:27] <ott0> i have to admit I want a tablet pc
[03:27] <ott0> i think ms windows is the only one really capable to doing it at this point
[03:27] <BigLebowski> kaiden: 7 years and $9B later, they still made a hash of it.
[03:27] <kaiden> yup
[03:27] <kaiden> I will stand by xp though..
[03:28] <dhaval> kaiden: i won't
[03:28] <BigLebowski> I have to, i don't have a choice.
[03:28] <kaiden> well when you aren't given a choice of what to run
[03:28] <kaiden> it's not all that bad
[03:28] <shane634> kaiden, stand by for updates
[03:28] <BigLebowski> College stuff, ie, office, macromedia studio and visual studio
[03:28] <kaiden> btw, how does cedega run on 64 bit installs?
[03:28] <TheVault> Crazytom: Did you read what I said?
[03:28] <kaiden> should i stick to the 32 bit distro releases if i want to use cedega to play warcraft etc?
[03:28] <Crazytom> TheVault, yes
[03:29] <shane634> kaiden, yes
[03:29] <BigLebowski> but heh, lets face it, linux isn't perfect either, getting there though :-)
[03:29] <dhaval> kaiden: since i use my box for development, i am a one distro man :)
[03:29] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me with Samba?
[03:29] <TheVault> Crazytom: Well, I was using that wl_apsta.o file, not sure if thats what I was supposed to use though.
[03:29] <shane634> BigLebowski, true
[03:29] <Crazytom> TheVault, how close are you to being finished installing
[03:29] <kaiden> ok then ;) guess i shouldn't be downloading sabayon 64bit huh? :p
[03:29] <BigLebowski> Linux needs to take a step in the OpenBSD direction, decent code audits.
[03:29] <ady33> My ubuntu bible talks about a disk manager to format an extra Hard drive. However I can not find this in my applications or as an option to download with my packet manager. Any ideas anyone??
[03:29] <TheVault> Crazytom: 64%
[03:29] <BigLebowski> Feature freeze and audit.
[03:30] <seshomaru1234> do you guys know if windows can view a gedit text file?
[03:30] <TheVault> Crazytom: it usually starts jumping really quick, so maybe around 5 mins or so
[03:30] <Fear_cult> anyone know how to get rid of bootsplash?
[03:30] <kaiden> dhaval, so you highly suggest fc 6 for my specific setup?
[03:30] <Rooy> Fear_cult: you mean the loading bar when it boots?
[03:30] <BigLebowski> fear_cult, remove the splash param from /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:30] <wondr> i'm trying ubuntu for the first time. it's going to run on a celeron poweredge server running apache 2.0, modpython and postgres. i'm downloading the LTS server image right now. is that generally recommended for servers rather than the shorter term support image?
[03:30] <dhaval> kaiden: i do not highly suggest :). just suggest. the 32 bit version
[03:30] <BigLebowski> Or remove usplash from the init scripts
[03:30] <BigLebowski> or both
[03:30] <Crazytom> I don't understand what you want to do if you haven't installed yet
[03:30] <dhaval> kaiden: i know that works for sure
[03:30] <kaiden> dhaval, lol ;)
[03:30] <TheVault> Crazytom: I was also hearing that you need to apply all the system updates and things in order for most of all the tutorials you use to work correctly
[03:31] <Crazytom> I believe broadcom devices are supported in ubuntu without ndiswrapper
[03:31] <TheVault> Crazytom: well my wifi light is on running the LIVE CD
[03:31] <shane634> Crazytom, most are yes
[03:31] <kaiden> ok then, well i'm off to attempt this kernel fix then i guess i'll try to compile a new kernel
[03:31] <dhaval> ok, if someone can help me here. after completing the apt-get install downloads, is it normal for it to remain stuck at 99% [Working]  ?
[03:31] <BigLebowski> I'm not looking forward to getting a new laptop.
[03:31] <dhaval> kaiden: best of luck!
[03:31] <TheVault> Crazytom: but when ubuntu is installed, my wifi light is off
[03:31] <BigLebowski> Anyone know how well linux runs on macbooks?
[03:31] <AaronCampbell> I'm looking to move my desktop to kubuntu.  Last time I tried (6-8 month ago), I had problems getting my main monitor to display at the right resolution (1680x1050), and I couldn't get my second monitor to be anything but a clone of the first.  I've been told this was because I have an ATI video card.  What kind of card can I buy that will work on ubuntu, support 2 monitors, and that kind of resolution?
[03:31] <Crazytom> TheVault, what does iwconfig give you?
[03:32] <TheVault> Crazytom: one moment
[03:32] <Grey_Loki> Does anyone here use Superkaramba? I'm having difficulty installing it
[03:32] <BigLebowski> My old T23 with interated wireless runs fine out of the box.
[03:32] <BigLebowski> I'll miss that
[03:32] <kaiden> anyone have a howto on kernel compilation for non network capable machines at the moment?
[03:32] <Factory> AaronCampbell, Rule of thumb: Never get ati ever.
[03:32] <Grey_Loki> AaronCampbell, an nVidia card would do you, one of the middle-range GeForce series.
[03:32] <kaiden> the one on howtoforge i was linked earlier depends on apt-get
[03:32] <Factory> AaronCampbell, Ever.
[03:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> LOL ati
[03:32] <BigLebowski> kaiden, either way you'll need to download the kernel and headers
[03:32] <Crazytom> TheVault, everyone will yell probably yell at you if you flood
[03:32] <kaiden> BigLebowski, yup, have them already, i just didn't see page 2 on this howto
[03:33] <kaiden> ;p
[03:33] <TheVault> Crazytom: I'm not making that mistake again
[03:33] <kaiden> got it now
[03:33] <kaiden> well thanks everyone nice talking
[03:33] <shane634> AaronCampbell, geforce 5200 here dual no probs
[03:33] <TheVault> eth1
[03:33] <AaronCampbell> Ok, I thought nvidia and ati were in the same boat when it came to linux...proprietary, closed drivers
[03:33] <TheVault> shows that I have a 802.b/6
[03:33] <dhaval> BigLebowski: ok, if someone can help me here. after completing the apt-get install downloads, is it normal for it to remain stuck at 99% [Working]  ?
[03:33] <TheVault> b/g
[03:33] <Vandal9> i am having a audio problem with my computer.. nd i just need to know if ubuntu 6.10 uses the same gnome kernal as ubuntu fiesty? does anyone know both version numbers off hand?
[03:33] <Factory> AaronCampbell, ATI runs terrible on linux.
[03:33] <shane634> AaronCampbell, nvidia is rowing the boat
[03:33] <Factory> AaronCampbell, Always been that way
[03:33] <TheVault> Broadcom 4311
[03:33] <dhaval> BigLebowski: just to attract attention :)
[03:33] <crdlb> Vandal9, 2.16 and 2.18
[03:33] <Vandal9> thank you very much
[03:34] <BigLebowski> I beldhaval: I've nerver had that.
[03:34] <enyc> dhaval: sounds ike ity trying to connect to another server.....
[03:34] <BigLebowski> dhaval*
[03:34] <TheVault> Crazytom: Its showing that I have a broadcom 4311 and 802.11b/g
[03:34] <dhaval> jrib: i did a apt-get install ubuntu-destop and it is stuck at 99% now
[03:34] <enyc> dhaval: does it give an error eventually?
[03:34] <BigLebowski> We should bug the shit out of ATI
[03:34] <Crazytom> TheVault, you see the other window?
[03:34] <dhaval> BigLebowski: enyc any ideas how do debug it
[03:34] <enyc> dhaval: does it give an error eventually?
[03:34] <dhaval> enyc: its been like that for the last 15 mins
[03:34] <TheVault> Crazytom: other window?
[03:34] <BigLebowski> Get a few thousand people together, and call every 10 mins about linux support.
[03:34] <shane634> TheVault, the 4311 is well documented on the forums
[03:34] <enyc> dhaval: ctrl-c it ...
[03:34] <TheVault> shane634: Can ya show me please
[03:35] <dhaval> enyc: and restart it?
[03:35] <enyc> dhaval: "clear" screen
[03:35] <shane634> TheVault, sure let me do a search
[03:35] <enyc> dhaval: restart "sudo apt-get update" and then paste onle  pastebin ;-)
[03:35] <TheVault> Crazytom: If ya want, i'll pastebin what I have of what its showing in the terminal
[03:35] <BigLebowski> Anyone up for annoying ATI?
[03:35] <Soul_Trader> hello, could anybody help me, after upgrade (dapper -> edgy)  system says that there are a packidge which has dependies which could not made.  If i try to delete package, system says that this packge should be reinstall before delete, but reinstall didn't help. Package name is courier-authdaemon. Sorry for my english, it is not my native language :)
[03:36] <Crazytom> TheVault, are you using xchat?
[03:36] <foutrelis> Can someone tell me how I could install Gnome 2.18 on Edgy? :)
[03:36] <TheVault> Crazytom: no, using Gaim
[03:36] <livingdaylight> Are there any samba gurus here?
[03:36] <Crazytom> damn
[03:36] <Crazytom> sry
[03:36] <TheVault> Crazytom: I see your messages in the PM, are you reading mine?
[03:36] <BigLebowski> Soul_trader: install the dependency, failing that purge the initial package with dpkg, install the dependancy then reinstall
[03:36] <shane634> TheVault, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=16394869
[03:36] <nevermind> does anyone handle different encodings here?
[03:37] <Crazytom> TheVault, i'm not getting them
[03:37] <berent> !pastebin
[03:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:37] <TheVault> thanks shane634
[03:37] <Vandal9> oh is thier a command to replace my current xorg.conf file  with the backup one? that that could potential save me alot of time
[03:37] <BigLebowski> foutrelis: compile from source, or see if there is a binary release, i dont think its in the repos yet
[03:37] <Soul_Trader> dependies depend for first package )))
[03:37] <TheVault> Crazytom: Thought so, had a similar problem like this awhile back
[03:37] <shane634> TheVault, check that for help should get ya done
[03:37] <nevermind> !encoding
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encoding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <dhaval> enyc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10763/
[03:37] <BigLebowski> Valdal19, sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.backup
[03:37] <nevermind> !charset
[03:37] <enyc> dhaval: looking....
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about charset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <nevermind> oO
[03:37] <Crazytom> TheVault, if you can pastebin me the output of ifconfig iwconfig and iwlist eth1 scan
[03:37] <BigLebowski> Oh, replace orig with backup? other way round.
[03:38] <crdlb> nevermind, what exactly are you trying to find out?
[03:38] <Soul_Trader> How can I just remove this pack?
[03:38] <Vandal9> thanks alot BigLebowski
[03:38] <TheVault> Crazytom: alright, one momemnt. Also installation is almost done, 95%
[03:38] <dhaval> enyc: ok
[03:38] <Crazytom> do you normally need ndiswrapper with a broadcom 4311?
[03:38] <Vandal9> replace back up with original.. i might said it wrong but thats what i want to do
[03:38] <nevermind> crdlb: i'm on this IRC channel where they complain that i'm using UTF-8 and the # uses iso
[03:38] <shane634> Crazytom, it depends
[03:39] <Vandal9> ahh
[03:39] <Vandal9> replace original with backup is what i watn to do
[03:39] <Vandal9> haha
[03:39] <Crazytom> shane634, on?
[03:39] <dhaval> enyc: i don't need backports i guess
[03:39] <enyc> dhaval: hrrm i cant see anything wrong with http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz myself
[03:39] <nevermind> crdlb: but i've changed my encoding and it's still the same
[03:39] <shane634> Crazytom, other hardware and setup
[03:39] <Smotang> Hi, I have a problem reading off a DVD drive I keep coming up against an I/O error is there any way to download the data from the DVD? I know that it is possible in XP using a program called dataroller or somesuch, do we have a program in linux that is equal to that? can someone send me a msg with the answer, will be greatly appreciated!
[03:39] <foutrelis> BigLebowski: I was hoping to avoid building Gnome from source but if this is the only way I 'll do it! :P
[03:39] <Seveas> nevermind, tell them to join us in the 21st century :)
[03:39] <enyc> dhaval: and you have beryl-projocts' ubuntu repository whith doesnt verify ubuntu pgp signing which makes sense
[03:39] <crdlb> nevermind, what irc client are you using?
[03:39] <dhaval> enyc: i have commented them all out now
[03:39] <nevermind> Seveas: wish i could, i'm not their leader :P
[03:40] <nevermind> crdlb: xChat
[03:40] <dhaval> enyc: and i ran update again.. that seems to have worked
[03:40] <dhaval> enyc: but on runningth einstall again, wait i will paste in in a pastebin
[03:40] <nevermind> crdlb: i understand it uses iconv, but i've been trying to convert from utf-8 to iso without success
[03:40] <enyc> dhaval: there could be a problem with that mirrorsite at present
[03:40] <Vandal9> sorry i have to ask this question again.. so i don't get  confused. i'm tired from messing with this all night.. basically i want to replace xorg.conf with xorg backup config backup
[03:41] <TheVault> Crazytom: My pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10765/
[03:41] <nevermind> crdlb: and i don't want to change my whole system encoding just for a single #
[03:41] <beerockxs> how do i disable the shift-backspace hotkey for restarting X?
[03:41] <BigLebowski> Valdal19: What is your xorg backup called?
[03:41] <enyc> Vandal9: well stop gdm, restore the backup, start gdm
[03:41] <BigLebowski> Vandal, where is it?
[03:41] <xtknight> beerockxs, do you mean ctrl shift backspace?  or is shift backspace doing it for you?
[03:41] <Vandal9> its the one in X11
[03:42] <Vandal9> etc/X11/
[03:42] <beerockxs> xtknight: shift backspace is doing it, too
[03:42] <enyc> Vandal9: yes...
[03:42] <mintol> hi guys
[03:42] <xtknight> beerockxs, that's odd.  do you have compiz or beryl?
[03:42] <enyc> Vandal9: you using normal "gnome" ubuntu (not kubuntu) ?
[03:42] <Lattyware> Is there any way to force Synaptic to install as files are downloaded, rather than downloading then installing?
[03:42] <TheVault> Crazytom: did you get my pastebin?
[03:42] <beerockxs> xtknight: yes, beryl
[03:42] <Crazytom> TheVault, yse
[03:42] <BigLebowski> Well, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorgbackupfilename /etc/X11/xorg.conf then just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:42] <TheVault> Crazytom: Alrighty
[03:42] <dhaval> enyc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10766/
[03:42] <BigLebowski> And your backup should be restored and X/GDM restarted
[03:42] <Crazytom> TheVault, done installing yet?
[03:42] <TheVault> Crazytom: Installation is done
[03:42] <Lattyware> As in, If I have 3 packages, and It finishes package 1, can it install package 1 while downloading package 2 and 3?
[03:42] <xtknight> beerockxs, i think it's a bug in XGL or AIGLX (these host Beryl).  you may be able to find help quicker in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[03:42] <Crazytom> TheVault, are you going to reboot?
[03:42] <dhaval> enyc: and its still stuck there :(
[03:43] <TheVault> Crazytom: yeah, brb
[03:43] <beerockxs> xtknight: ok, thanks
[03:43] <crdlb> nevermind, who's complaining? my xchat is set to utf-8 too
[03:43] <enyc> BigLebowski: sure... Vandal9 also needs to know how to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  if there is a prblem
[03:43] <Vandal9> thanks again BigLebowskim, and enyc
[03:43] <ott0> how does sudo get room privs for ordinary users?
[03:43] <Vandal9> i am using regular ubuntu gnome
[03:43] <nevermind> crdlb: it's a LUG channel
[03:43] <mintol> hey, i'm running ubuntu 6.10 with GNOME, and I was thinking of installing KDE alongside it.. however, since my hdd space is limited, does anyone perhaps know how much MB the KDE install would approximately take?
[03:43] <enyc> dhaval: hrrm bad mirror I suspect
[03:43] <nevermind> crdlb: they use ISO-8859-1
[03:43] <xtknight> ott0, well a list of users is in /etc/sudoers (or the admin group)
[03:43] <enyc> dhaval: try changing all the "in." for a different mirror site
[03:43] <shane634> mintol, kde is big
[03:44] <enyc> dhaval: i.e. "de.archive.ubuntu.com" or something else
[03:44] <dhaval> enyc: hmm. ok, i will do that.
[03:44] <nevermind> crdlb: but when i set my xChat to that, the conversion has no effect
[03:44] <Vandal9> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  what do i have to do enyc?
[03:44] <mintol> shane634, yea that's what i'm worried about :] 
[03:44] <mintol> but how big is 'big'?
[03:44] <razzorz> Morning all
[03:44] <BigLebowski> enyc: if his backup was previously working, he shouldn't have to reconfigure
[03:44] <Vandal9> i don't think my problem is that.. i have a logitech mouse.. and i tried to get my foward back buttons to work but xorg crashed
[03:44] <crdlb> nevermind, you can set it on a per-server basis in the properties window of the network list
[03:45] <crdlb> nevermind, is that what you're doing?
[03:45] <shane634> mintol, it installs a lot of stuff if you are low on disk space don't do it
[03:45] <Popoi> mintol: but you can install just kde-core, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[03:45] <dhaval> enyc: nope.. its still stuck there
[03:45] <razzorz> running a ati capture card.... whats the best tvtuner program thats out there?
[03:45] <nevermind> crdlb: right, but it doesn't 'translate'
[03:45] <Vandal9> i stil lhaven't gotten my forward and back button to work on my logitech mouse i followed the instructions given on the website
[03:45] <dhaval> enyc: where does it download everything to?
[03:45] <Faithful> I'm having a real hard time trying to get X running with an ATI 9300 card
[03:45] <TheVault> Alright, rebooted and using my fresh install
[03:45] <mintol> Popoi, sure but how much hdd space would that take approximately, you reckon?
[03:46] <shane634> Faithful, what kinda problems?
[03:46] <BigLebowski> Faithful: call and bitch at ati, then look at the wiki
[03:46] <crdlb> nevermind, you sure you set the encoding for the right irc network?
[03:46] <TheVault> Crazytom: My wifi light is on
[03:46] <Popoi> mintol: when you try to install it, APT will tell you how much space will need
[03:46] <TheVault> Crazytom: which the last time I don't remember it ever being on
[03:46] <crdlb> nevermind, which lug is it?
[03:46] <enyc> dhaval: /var/cache/apt
[03:46] <nevermind> crdlb: yes, the thing is that if you try the same in a terminal, iconv doesn't translate either (ie: echo "" (alt+160) | iconv -t iso-8859-1)
[03:46] <Faithful> shane634: BigLebowski the same usual stuff ... black screen (lockup I guess)
[03:47] <Faithful> BigLebowski: which wiki?
[03:47] <Crazytom> TheVault, is xchat installed
[03:47] <nevermind> crdlb: not listed, they say it's secret :P
[03:47] <TheVault> xchat?
[03:47] <BigLebowski> Faithful: the ubuntu wiki
[03:47] <enyc> dhaval: /var/cache/apt/archives/  actually...  "sudo apt-get clean" clears the cache
[03:47] <shane634> Faithful, have you tried envy?
[03:47] <TheVault> No I don't believe so, want me to install it?
[03:47] <Crazytom> apps internet xchat
[03:47] <Faithful> envy?... what people with nVidia cards?
[03:47] <Crazytom> TheVault, it should be installed
[03:47] <TheVault> crazytom: nope, only gaim
[03:48] <shane634> Faithful, it works for ati as well
[03:48] <dhaval> enyc: i will install it manually and hope it works :)
[03:48] <TheVault> crazytom: got msn, yahoo?
[03:48] <enyc> dhaval: install what?
[03:48] <Crazytom> TheVault, it works better than gain
[03:48] <Faithful> shane634: I will give it a whirl
[03:48] <mintol> Popoi, ah really? I kept trying to get it to tell me, but I couldn't find it.. i'll try that, thanks:)
[03:48] <TheVault> Crazytom: alright, so I do sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:48] <Factory> any reason why an install of xubuntu would hang on a compaq sr1000z ?
[03:48] <shane634> TheVault, yahoo me at shane634
[03:48] <Crazytom> TheVault, sounds good
[03:48] <TheVault> shane634: Alright
[03:48] <razzorz> anyone know of a good progy for my capture card to watch tv .??
[03:49] <enyc> Factory: bad cdrom... bad cpu/ram/motherboard of some form?  does the machine pass "memory test"?  does the "test cd integrity" work?
[03:49] <dhaval>  enyc: the downloaded packages
[03:49] <grout> how can I install a printer on my lamp server?
[03:49] <Factory> enyc to tell the truth I didn't even think to try it.
[03:50] <Factory> enyc, Probably would be the disk
[03:50] <enyc> Factory: check memtest
[03:50] <Factory> enyc since other distros work fine
[03:50] <enyc> Factory: its worth running memtest for some hours.... and seeing that it doesnt give errors or crash... to know the machine is okay
[03:50] <enyc> Factory: and then check cd integrity....
[03:50] <Factory> alrighty roo
[03:51] <Crazytom> TheVault, did it work?
[03:51] <ctothej> are command line options different for p7zip versus the windows version of 7z?
[03:51] <TheVault> crazytom: hold on, yahoo being a jerk right now
[03:51] <grout> I have a lamp server with a usb printer, how can I install the printer on the command line?
[03:51] <enyc> ctothej: not sure... see manpage
[03:52] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm trying to build wine, and it says I don't have the opengl development headers, how can I fix this?
[03:52] <crdlb> Lattyware, sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[03:52] <shane634> TheVault, i have msn as well shane47143
[03:53] <Winball> sudo aptitude remove whine
[03:53] <Lattyware> crdlb: Thanks.
[03:55] <mintol> hm here's another, perhaps stupid, question.. if in the status bar of the package manager it says '447MB will be used', does that imply the download size, or the (unpacked) install size?
[03:55] <apokryphos> unpacked
[03:55] <gepatino> mintol: afaik, the install size
[03:55] <Keyseir> Anybody here personally installed WoW on edgy using Wine and can endorse a howto?
[03:55] <gepatino> the downloads are cleaned eventually
[03:56] <mintol> so a full KDE install alongside my GNOME would take only 447MB? ;o
[03:56] <novacaine> hi all. I'm trying to install openchrome driver..but when i run ./autogen.sh i get this error configure.ac: 30: required file `./[config.h] .in' not found
[03:56] <mintol> that's not a lot
[03:56] <Lattyware> Keyseir: Just check the AppDB at WineHQ
[03:56] <apokryphos> mintol: they share quite a few things, of course. Ubuntu base system, OO.o, etc
[03:56] <novacaine> is it a problem with the automake version?
[03:56] <Crazytom> TheVault, msn?
[03:57] <mintol> apokryphos, i'm just pleasantly surprised.. i was expecting somewhere along the lines of 243TB
[03:57] <TheVault> crazytom: Shane is helping right now, hang on
[03:57] <TheVault> crazytom: my msn is kylewitt@gmail.com
[03:58] <Keyseir> lattyware: swt
[03:58] <Blissex> TheVault: you just begged for a lot more spam :-)
[03:59] <BigLebowski> Blissex: Why would he get spam from a linux chan?
[03:59] <apokryphos> !logs
[03:59] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:59] <BigLebowski> ah
[03:59] <apokryphos> and several other places
[04:00] <BigLebowski> Aha, didn't realised it was logged.
[04:00] <BigLebowski> Grr, MAC OS X is a pile of crap
[04:00] <Blissex> BigLebowski: almost everything you say online is going to exists for decades...
[04:01] <Blissex> BigLebowski: Mac OSX is a nice UNIX variant... not too bad overall.
[04:01] <BigLebowski> Blissex: Good :-)
[04:01] <Keyseir> lattyware: I'm not seeing any information on how to install WoW through the appdb entry on it
[04:01] <BigLebowski> Blissex: i was talking about 'cocoa' and ObJC specifically.
[04:01] <Blissex> BigLebowski: not too different from GNU/Linux overall. Which must be good indeed :-).
[04:01] <BigLebowski> And apples dev docs, they're shit.
[04:02] <Keyseir> Anybody here personally installed WoW on edgy using Wine and can endorse a howto?
[04:02] <Blissex> BigLebowski: ahhhh, yes some of the Apple middleware could be better documented and less of a hack. But then we have GNOME too :-)
[04:02] <BigLebowski> Blissex: It's totally different from GNU/Linux, the only similarities are GNU userland.
[04:02] <Blissex> BigLebowski: it is really rather similar, the only difference is the desktop environment...
[04:03] <deep_> Anyoe knows what the first zero in fstab "umask" means?
[04:03] <BigLebowski> Blissex: and the kernel, the way devices are handled, etc.
[04:03] <dun> g
[04:03] <Blissex> deep_: octal...
[04:04] <BigLebowski> It's more NeXT than linux, imo
[04:04] <Blissex> BigLebowski: ah sure, but NeXT was based on a UNIX clone itself.
[04:04] <deep_> Blissex, yeah, but there is 4... and afaik, 3 of them is owner, group and guest.
[04:04] <Factory> Hey, enyc , in the case that it IS my cd integrity that's causing the problem, what would a good iso burner be? so that I can burn it at a lower speed? the one built into gnome runns at the highest possible speed
[04:05] <Blissex> deep_: the leading 0 usually is to indicate the number really is octal, like in C.
[04:05] <Blissex> Factory: the one built into GNOME almost certainly just uses 'cdrecord' as the burning program, and then you can set speed.
[04:05] <deep_> Blissex, aaah. Okay (:
[04:06] <BigLebowski> Blissex: Ya got me there, still the kernel is pretty different
[04:06] <Factory> thanks Blissex =)
[04:06] <Thinkpad_Guru> question guys, what would make samba copy only half of my files during a networked transfer?  It doesn't stop on the same folder or file when tried repeatedly. Any ideas?
[04:06] <Blissex> deep_: to set 'umask' properly you need to understand the 16-bit field for permissions in an i-node.
[04:07] <Blissex> Thinkpad_Guru: our claivoyant advisors are all busy on other lines :-)
[04:07] <deep_> Blissex,  i understand the chmod command? :D haha
[04:07] <Blissex> Thinkpad_Guru: please have a look at the Samba logs for information on possible errors.
[04:07] <deep_> Blissex, and from what i've seen, it's just 7 - the int @ fstab (:
[04:07] <Thinkpad_Guru> where do those logs live at?
[04:08] <JohnPhys> Thinkpad_Guru: most likely in /var/log/something samba
[04:08] <Thinkpad_Guru> JohnPhys, Blissex, thanks..
[04:08] <Factory> so Blissex , not to be a pest, but using the option speed=4 would do the trick?
[04:08] <JohnPhys> Thinkpad_Guru: it's /var/log/samba
[04:09] <Thinkpad_Guru> JohnPhys thanx
[04:09] <edub> good mornign folks
[04:09] <Blissex> Factory: perhaps. Lower speeds for CD burning often give better quality than higher speeds (this does not hold for DVD burning, where lower speeds can give worse quality).
[04:09] <Blissex> Factory: anyhow going lower than 8x or 12x usually is not necessary.
[04:09] <Factory> Blissex, this I've heard. was just curious if I needed to do speed=8x or if speed=8 woudl work
[04:10] <Tominator> hi! my prism 2.5 card doesn't work any more after I installed the newer kernel from the repos (2.6.17-11-generic)
[04:10] <bulmer> got a working freenx installation ? can you give some pointers on how this thing is done right? confusing as heck to get it working not really understanding which key and user do which
[04:11] <Thinkpad_Guru> Thats outstanding, my samba logs are blank
[04:11] <Tominator> does anybody know why? and how can i solve my problem?
[04:11] <shane634> Tominator, which card exactly?
[04:11] <crdlb> Thinkpad_Guru, /var/log/samba/log.smbd  is blank?
[04:11] <woyrz> I have a Dell Intel dual core 2 and none of the installation work. Any ideas
[04:12] <Thinkpad_Guru> crdlb yes
[04:12] <Tominator> oh i don't know... one moment please...
[04:12] <bulmer> Tominator you have your old kernel around? boot off of the old and look in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/  see if there are differences?
[04:12] <ctothej> my system monitor keeps saying that some application are taking up 17179869180.0GiB !! why is it doing this?
[04:12] <ctothej> of memory that is
[04:12] <unh0ly> Greetings. :o)
[04:12] <Thinkpad_Guru> crdlb It's just the header copyright, and thats it.
[04:13] <thornomad> Hello everyone. I have  quick bash question.  I am trying to paths to certain file locations and save them into a bash array.  I am using: find -type f -name *.doc | cut -c2- .... this lists all my files with paths, but how do I get each entry into an array ? anyone know ? thanks!
[04:13] <bulmer> ctothej: it has a pid?
[04:13] <ctothej> bulmer: yes
[04:13] <edub> what the fuck???? thats un shit load of mem lol
[04:13] <mbac> my laptop hard disk spins up and down all the time while i'm using ubuntu
[04:13] <crdlb> Thinkpad_Guru, that's not what I thought you mean by blank
[04:13] <mbac> but it doesn't do that with windows
[04:13] <Tominator> shane634: Its a netgear ma311
[04:13] <mbac> what gives?
[04:13] <crdlb> meant*
[04:14] <shane634> Tominator,  hang on a sec
[04:14] <xst> How do I get inkscape 0.45 for ubuntu?
[04:14] <LjL> !language | edub
[04:14] <ubotu> edub: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:14] <crdlb> mbac, if you have enough ram, try lowering the kernel's swappiness
[04:14] <ctothej> bulmer: usually it is fine, but sometimes, it give an insanely large number to some (only some) applications.
[04:14] <Keyseir> Anybody here personally installed WoW on edgy using Wine and can endorse a howto?
[04:14] <woyrz> I have a Dell Intel dual core 2 and none of the installation work that i found on the web site work. Any ideas
[04:14] <gepatino> thornomad: have you tried 'while read VAR' or something like that?
[04:14] <shane634> Tominator, look here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=16396676
[04:14] <mbac> crdlb, i don't think it's swapping
[04:15] <Thinkpad_Guru> crdlb It's blank as in no error info, no it doesn't
[04:15] <Tominator> shane634: oh :) thank you ;)
[04:15] <rp_> xst : it's in synaptic
[04:15] <unh0ly> Maybe someone can help me. I am an on Ubuntu Edgy, running a ATI Radeon x800 with the xorg-drivers from X11 7.2 and when I change to tt1 to tt6 just fails. All I see are tiny blocks of the ubuntu-bootscreen.
[04:15] <shane634> Tominator,  no problem
[04:15] <Blissex> woyrz: we are sorry, but our telepathic advisors are still all busy :-)
[04:15] <xst> synaptic?
[04:15] <crdlb> mbac, by default ubuntu really likes to use the swap even when you have unused ram
[04:15] <thornomad> gepatino: hmm, i did play with the read command, but couldn't find a good explanation of how it works. if you think that is it, let me play with it some more
[04:15] <kenthomson> HELP; Can't play VCDs. I have installed all the codecs at the restrictedFormats page. I have gxine, mplayer, vlc, totem. All fail to play a VCD. When i browse through nautilus to a VCD->Mpegav->Avesaq1.dat, and when i right click that .dat file it suddenly changes icon to become a icon of text-file. When i right-click to see open-with, it displays all text-editors on my system to open that file (ubuntu thinks its text). I can't copy-paste the file to
[04:15] <kenthomson>  my HDD, it tells me that it can't read from source. This happens with ALL the VCDs. I than have to reboot into windows, copy the .dat file to HDD, and than boot back into ubuntu and play it with any of the players-than it works like a charm. Is there someway i can prevent rebooting into windows just to copy the VCD file to my HDD to play it? (thats the only thing that i use windows for nowadays). Please help, this is a seriously annoying problem!!!
[04:15] <cwill1> I've got a short script I need to run when one particular window gains or looses focus;  is there any easy way to do that in metacity?
[04:15] <cwill1> (edgy or feisty)
[04:16] <rp_> xst : yes the one automated installer for linux, system - synaptic then seach for it
[04:16] <woyrz> I have a Dell Intel dual core 2 and none of the installation work that i found on the web site work. The cd launch the kernel but it froze there
[04:16] <Blissex> kenthomson: well, some VCDs are in an odd format, and the Linux CD drivers does not support all VCD formats unfortunately.
[04:16] <kenthomson> Blissex, i am talking about absolutely ALL VCDs
[04:16] <Blissex> kenthomson: however I have seen in the past some patches that help with that. So have a search.
[04:17] <mbac> crdlb, top says swap usage is at zero
[04:17] <bulmer> got a working freenx installation ? can you give some pointers on how this thing is done right? confusing as heck to get it working not really understanding which key and user do which
[04:17] <Blissex> cwill1: use a scriptable window manager :-)
[04:17] <cwill1> Blissex: that's about the most useless response you could've given, thanks :p
[04:17] <gepatino> thornomad: try redirecting your commands through a pipe to 'while read files'
[04:18] <mbac> my guess is windows is keeping the hard disk powered on for a long time, whereas linux is powering it down frequently
[04:18] <Blissex> cwill1: sometimes resizing your ambitions is useful advice...
[04:18] <gepatino> thornomad: then inside the while you'll have a different file inside $file for each cycle
[04:18] <Blissex> cwill1: there are several nice scriptable window managers.
[04:18] <unh0ly> No ideas? :)
[04:18] <ep2011> Hi all :)
[04:18] <cwill1> Blissex: I just recall running across an app that did that for metacity, and was hoping somebody would remember the name
[04:18] <ofer0> what's the default password for root/ssh ?
[04:18] <Blissex> unh0ly: in general repeat questions *in full* and spaced at least 5 mins apart.
[04:19] <Blissex> ofer0: none, you cannot do it.
[04:19] <gepatino> thornomad:  find -type f -name *.doc | cut -c2- | while read file
[04:19] <cwill1> ofer0: there is none
[04:19] <gepatino> thornomad: do
[04:19] <kenthomson> !damn
[04:19] <LjL> !root > ofer0    (ofer0, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:19] <gepatino> thornomad: echo $file
[04:19] <kenthomson> exit
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about damn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <kenthomson> quit
[04:19] <gepatino> thornomad: done
[04:19] <cwill1> ofer0: you can set a password, but its strongly discouraged
[04:19] <unh0ly> Blissex: Are you serious?
[04:19] <ofer0> cwill1, okay. thank you.
[04:19] <unh0ly> I don't want to be rude by constantly repeating my question.
[04:20] <ctothej> I had a program launch firefox and it launched it without my plugins. How/why did it do this?
[04:20] <mbac> hmm, after about a minute of inactivity hdparm -C /dev/hda says the drive is on standby
[04:20] <Blissex> unh0ly: yes... Questions scroll, people join, so you cannot assume that people can easily remember your question.
[04:20] <thornomad> gepatino: thanks. let me get that in the script and see if it is working.
[04:20] <mbac> instead of active/idle
[04:20] <unh0ly> Okay, fine. Thank you.
[04:20] <Blissex> unh0ly: also leave at least 5 mins between repetitions, ideally 10.
[04:20] <unh0ly> I will do that.
[04:20] <Blissex> unh0ly: some people take a bit to think about questions, do Google searches, etc.
[04:21] <Blissex> unh0ly: it may take 20-30 minutes to get a comment.
[04:21] <shane634> Blissex, or check the forums
[04:21] <woyrz> I have a Dell Intel dual core 2 and none of the installation work that i found on the web site work. The cd launch the kernel but it froze and it froze on a black screen
[04:21] <Blissex> mbac: is that wrong?
[04:21] <unh0ly> Sure. It's not like I didn't try that, but maybe I'm just searching with the wrong keywords.
[04:21] <Blissex> woyrz: that's very odd.
[04:21] <mbac> blissex, yeah, because going from standby -> active/idle takes about 4 seconds
[04:21] <unh0ly> woyrz: What about the safe mode?
[04:21] <woyrz> i know i cnat find anything on the web
[04:21] <Blissex> unh0ly: I mean to answer a question people may want to take 5-10mins doing Google searches themselves.
[04:22] <drake_> Hey guys
[04:22] <woyrz> i was able to run it on my portable but not on this one
[04:22] <Blissex> mbac: well, 4 s is pretty obvious for resuming, the disk has to spinup again.
[04:22] <unh0ly> Blissex: Yes. I just wanted to point out, that I'm not too much a couchpotatoe to search by myself. :o)
[04:22] <shane634> unh0ly, what is your problem?
[04:22] <mbac> blissex, yes, therefore it's an obnoxious default
[04:22] <Blissex> mbac: the 1min is just the idle timeout. You can change it.
[04:22] <unh0ly> Maybe someone can help me. I am an on Ubuntu Edgy, running a ATI Radeon x800 with the xorg-drivers from X11 7.2 and when I change to tt1 to tt6 just fails. All I see are tiny blocks of the ubuntu-bootscreen.
[04:22] <FluxAR> Hello folks! I need some help. I need to use my notebook in a place where there is no Internet connection and I need to install many packages like mesa libraries (gl, glu, glut) but I don't know how to achieve this with official Ubuntu 6.10 only CD
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[04:23] <mbac> blissex, i can't find where it's set, it's not in /etc/hdparm.conf, for example
[04:23] <FluxAR> Hello folks! I need some help. I need to use my notebook in a place where there is no Internet connection and I need to install many packages like mesa libraries (gl, glu, glut) but I don't know how to achieve this with official Ubuntu 6.10 only CD... could somebody help me? What might I put in sources.list?
[04:23] <Blissex> mbac: 'man hdparm' the '-S' setting.
[04:23] <shane634> unh0ly, sorry can't help with that
[04:23] <cwill1> FluxAR: apt-cdrom add or something like that
[04:23] <unh0ly> FluxAR: You can activate your CD as a repository with synaptic.
[04:23] <Blissex> unh0ly: there are often very many bugs in graphics status save/restore. Usually they get eventually fixed.
[04:23] <LjL> not the desktop CD though, i'm afraid, only the alternate CD...
[04:23] <mbac> blissex, just wondering if ubuntu was setting it on init
[04:24] <Blissex> unh0ly: however, if you are running *any* sort of framebuffer kernel driver disable it, and that usually helps.
[04:24] <cwill1> LjL: you could search the cd for the deb files you need, don't know if that's the best way though
[04:24] <FluxAR> cwill1, yes.. I did that ... but how can I add more repositories than "main restricted"  from Cd rom?
[04:24] <LjL> cwill1: but the desktop CD doesn't *contain* .debs
[04:24] <unh0ly> Blissex: Any idea on how to find out if I am running a fb-module?
[04:24] <Blissex> mbac: probably somewhere, but 1min seems a bit short for a default, unless your machine is a laptop and you have asked for high powersaving mode.
[04:24] <cwill1> FluxAR: I'm pretty sure the cd doesn't include any universe or multiverse packages
[04:24] <FluxAR> cwill1, because as long as I see, I can't find development packages, like mesa libraries inside...
[04:25] <Blissex> unh0ly: well, if you see the little penguin icon at the beginning of boot, you got one.
[04:25] <Blissex> unh0ly: else try 'lsmod | grep fb'
[04:25] <drake_> Can you guys help me with my screen resolution?
[04:25] <LjL> FluxAR: that's because they aren't there. you just need to fetch them from the network.
[04:25] <unh0ly> No tux-icoiin there.
[04:25] <edub> why are some poeple getting stuck at a dos prompt (A:)when trying to get there live cd running? the versions that are being tried are ubuntu 6.10, phlak 0.3 phlak little boy beta1, TPM server Security, GNome 2.17 Demo......
[04:25] <Blissex> unh0ly: or 'ls -ld /dev/fb*'
[04:25] <thornomad> gepatino: that works, I can print each line, but I think I am not adding it to the array correctly. I tried just doing(where $i is an incrementing variable in the do while loop): array[$i] =$file ... but that doesn't work
[04:26] <Blissex> edub: the boot code is in a virtual A: floppy disk.
[04:26] <FluxAR> LjL, but ... mmmmmmmmmm... I only need to write some little programs in C with gl.h, glu.h ... mmmm... only that
[04:26] <Blissex> edub: it is ipart of ISO9660.
[04:26] <woyrz> concerning my problem i found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=355603 so FYI
[04:26] <cwill1> FluxAR: but if they're not on the cd... :p
[04:26] <edub> alright,so i esentialy need to donwload a boot file to 3.5 flopy for each individiual OS?
[04:26] <unh0ly> Blissex: Thank you. The output is crw-r--r-- 1 root root 29, 0 2007-03-16 18:44 /dev/fb0.
[04:26] <LjL> FluxAR: well, as "only" as it may sound, if those .h files aren't on the CD (and they aren't), you need to fetch the corresponding packages from the network, there's no other way
[04:27] <edub> or one primary linux os based
[04:27] <Blissex> edub: nooo.
[04:27] <FluxAR> Ljl Ok ... there is no alternative CD with more repositories inside? so I could fetch the ISO and take it with my notebook when I have no Internet connection.
[04:27] <Blissex> edub: each bootable ISO image has the image of a floppy on it, and to boot a CD the BIOS creates a virtual floppy drive with that image.
[04:28] <Blissex> edub: if you get an A: prompt probably the BIOS is trying to boot the virtual floppy image and failing.
[04:28] <LjL> FluxAR: you can get a DVD, that will have more package. but i think it's still only the packages in main and restricted
[04:28] <edub> alright how do i find the virtual file?
[04:28] <Blissex> unh0ly: looks like you have a framebuffer driver. There is an option to prevent it loading.
[04:28] <LjL> FluxAR: anyway, you're running Ubuntu from the live CD - you don't have it installed - correct?
[04:28] <FluxAR> LjL, ... do you know where is that DVD?
[04:28] <Blissex> edub: it should be already on the CD
[04:28] <FluxAR> LjL, no .. I have Ubuntu installed, not live
[04:29] <edub> ok its happening with 3 seperate boxes
[04:29] <unh0ly> Blissex: By excluding the module from booting, like I already did wit fglrx?
[04:29] <LjL> FluxAR: uh?! then why can't you just fetch those packages while you *have* an internet connection available, and then just use them later? :o)
[04:29] <FluxAR> LjL, the problem is that I will need to install more packages when I was without Internet connection, I'm sure it will happen
[04:29] <fs-a> how can i erase a dvd+rw in k3b? i don't want to add to it.
[04:29] <unh0ly> *loading
[04:29] <eXcAliBuR> ok, so i used apt-get to get java JDK 5... now i need to find the path that it is installed in.... anyone know where it went?
[04:29] <Blissex> unh0ly: yes.
[04:29] <mbac> ahah from the -S option description: a value of 0 means disable timeouts, a value of 1-240 specifies timeouts in multiples of 5 seconds, 241 to 251 specify 1 to 11 multiples of 30 minutes, 252 = 21 minutes, 253 is vendor specific, 254 reserved, 255 as 21 minutes 15 secs
[04:29] <edub> ok lets see here, i have a couple recently downloaded iso's
[04:29] <Blissex> unh0ly: there is also an option to tell the driver to not activate itself if it gets loaded.
[04:29] <edub> maybe i can find the file s before i burnem
[04:29] <unh0ly> Blissex: Will I have performance-issues or something similar?
[04:30] <Blissex> unh0ly: no.
[04:30] <FluxAR> LjL, ... could be.. but.. dependencies and so on ... :( mmm... fetching only .deb's don't ensure me all the dependencies
[04:30] <mbac> i have this really twisted idea -- why doesn't the software just ask you what you want it to be in plain english and then do the annoying calculations for you?
[04:30] <unh0ly> Great. :o)
[04:30] <dhaval> enyc: funny thing, rebooting seems to have started apt-get working
[04:30] <drake_> Can someone help me with my screen resolution? My monitor says it needs to run at 1280x1024 but it's not an available option on the resolution menu.
[04:30] <LjL> FluxAR: look, i'm not saying to "download" the .debs... i'm just saying to *install the packages*
[04:30] <unh0ly> But what is the name of the module to exclude, Blissex?
[04:30] <mbac> if cvs, which is as baroque as can be, can parse a date spec like -D 'a week ago', surely hdparm can at least learn to read '1 minute' and understand what i mean
[04:31] <Blissex> unh0ly: depends on *which* framebuffer driver you are using.
[04:31] <edub> ok well i gues i need to start screwing around with the md5 error check prog...
[04:31] <unh0ly> Ah, okay.
[04:31] <FluxAR> LjL, ye.. well .. suppose my notebook doesn't have NEVER an internet connection ... and the only way to add packages is by CD ROM
[04:31] <Blissex> mbac: 'hdparm' is meant to live in the bare ''root'' filesystem, e.g. '/sbin', so it should be as small as possible.
[04:31] <LjL> !apt-zip | FluxAR
[04:31] <ubotu> fluxar: apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:32] <thornomad> gepatino: seems like if I add items to the array inside of the "dowhile" loop they don't remain outside of the loop.  I am not sure why.  Hmm.  I don't know enough about this to make it work
[04:32] <mbac> blissex, it's 52kB, it fails
[04:32] <zafod77> Hey guys has anyone ever had sudo give die on them? I run things as sudo, it prompts for a password, the password is correct but if fails to run the command any thoughts?
[04:32] <scotelaro> helo
[04:32] <Crazytom> is capslock on?
[04:32] <cwill1> zafod77: are you running a gui command via sudo?
[04:32] <Blissex> zafod77: look at the 'secure' log.
[04:32] <dhaval> zafod77: did you reboot?
[04:32] <scotelaro> he
[04:32] <frojnd> what's the command to test how many FPS my graphic card has??
[04:32] <gepatino> thornomad: shure, the $file variable only lives in the while loop
[04:32] <LjL> FluxAR: you sure realize that the full collection of official packages is, like, 40GB or somesuch?
[04:32] <scotelaro> helo
[04:32] <jyfc> hello
[04:32] <scotelaro> friend
[04:32] <ubunt2> someone here
[04:32] <cwill1> zafod77: does "sudo ls" work?
[04:32] <ubunt2> error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[04:32] <ubunt2> error: could not execute pmount
[04:33] <zafod77> it's a command line command, and no I haven't rebooted it's in the middle of some rather lengthy processes and I would rather not
[04:33] <scotelaro> kurumin
[04:33] <ubunt2> i can't mount ntfs hdd
[04:33] <ubunt2> error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[04:33] <ubunt2> error: could not execute pmount
[04:33] <scotelaro> alguem fala portugues
[04:33] <LjL> !pt | scotelaro
[04:33] <ubotu> scotelaro: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:33] <scotelaro> habla espanhol
[04:33] <gepatino> thornomad: you could try using xargs, that switches a 'vertical' list to a 'horizontal' one , separated by spaces
[04:33] <zafod77> no sudo ls does not work it's as if sudo just doesn't get the command
[04:33] <LjL> !es | scotelaro
[04:33] <ubotu> scotelaro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:33] <lupus_> jie
[04:33] <FluxAR> LjL, ... that's true...
[04:33] <ubunt2> tonyrusso man
[04:33] <ubunt2> bruenig man
[04:33] <thornomad> gepatino: oh, how do I make the $file variable a "text" string or something ?  I want to list all the files in the array, then be able to go through the loop. xargs ? i will look at that
[04:33] <ubunt2> error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[04:33] <ubunt2> error: could not execute pmount
[04:33] <ubunt2> 
[04:33] <FluxAR> well .. mmmmmmmmmm... I'll need to find some way to install Mesa libraries in a non networked notebook
[04:33] <scotelaro> ok
[04:33] <LjL> !paste | ubunt2
[04:33] <ubotu> ubunt2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:33] <cwill1> zafod77: does sudo -s give you a prompt?
[04:34] <squall> hello
[04:34] <scotelaro> by
[04:34] <gepatino> thornomad: xargs could help
[04:34] <zafod77> cwill1: just a normal command prompt comes up after -s
[04:34] <ubunt2> Ljl man can you tell me what is happening i can't acces in error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[04:34] <ubunt2> error: could not execute pmount
[04:34] <cwill1> zafod77: not a root prompt?
[04:34] <eilker> i cant see my webcam when i type lspci
[04:34] <ubunt2> !paste | LjL
[04:35] <LjL> ubunt2: don't use pmount. /dev/hdb1 is a partition of a fixed hard drive (or at least it looks like one). just use mount
[04:35] <ubotu> LjL: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:35] <LjL> !mount > ubunt2    (ubunt2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:35] <LjL> ubunt2: ?
[04:35] <zafod77> cwill1: nope and whoami still shows normal user
[04:35] <ubunt2> LjL and do you thing that will work
[04:35] <eilker> i cant see my webcam when i type lspci, should i see it ?
[04:35] <LjL> ubunt2: it should. follow the link from Ubotu
[04:35] <ubunt2> LjL ok moment
[04:36] <cwill1> zafod77: weird
[04:36] <zafod77> It's as if sudo doesn't see any options or commands afterward
[04:36] <cwill1> zafod77: this is unlikely, but "  ls -l `which sudo`  " shows -rwsr-x-r-x root root, right?
[04:37] <ubunt2> LjL what??? this link say that i need to format the hdd i don't want it.
[04:38] <AlbertK> !permissions
[04:38] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[04:38] <LjL> ubunt2: what are you talking about? the word "format" isn't mentioned *once* in the link.
[04:38] <ubunt2> LJL i see that in the first link of the fstab
[04:38] <ubunt2> it say format
[04:38] <zafod77> cwill1: yes those are the permisions on /usr/bin/sudo
[04:38] <LjL> ubunt2: you know what a "link" is, right? it's an URL. a web address.
[04:39] <LjL> !mountwindows | ubunt2
[04:39] <brent> (hopefully quick) question: i'm working on a dev project that needs to use roughly 1.5 gb of RAM.  I've got 2 gb.  For some reason, my cache is currently around 800mb.  Is there a way to check which apps are using the cache or is there a way to flush the cache???  Any help would be much appreciated!!
[04:39] <ubotu> ubunt2: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:39] <LjL> that one above is a link.
[04:39] <pchilds> I need some help please in setting up mt-daapd please. When I try to start mt-daapd I get an error stating it cannot find the directory where music is located.Maybe I am overlooking something
[04:39] <ubunt2> LJL sudo fdisk -l
[04:39] <ubunt2> LjL and this command ????
[04:40] <LjL> ubunt2: that command lists all the partitions on a given drive (you need to specify the drive).
[04:40] <eilker> !network
[04:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:40] <ubunt2> LjL moment
[04:40] <LjL> moment what
[04:40] <Poul^Laptop> Could use a bit of help. After i used update manager, it updated and i rebooted. Then there was added one new line to sellect on boot screen. new kernel or what it is, not sure. Anyway, when useing that i get some x-server error and no grafic are loaded,
[04:40] <cosmodad> LjL: he wants you to wait
[04:41] <LjL> i'm not going anywhere
[04:41] <zafod77> cwill1: oh well I was planning on bringing it down later this afternoon anyway to install a PCI card, maybe a reboot will help it.
[04:41] <Lupin> is there an easy install guide/disc floating around for PS3 UBUNTU?
[04:41] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: did you compile your video driver yourself?
[04:41] <mintol> ps3 ubuntu is planned for next release but not yet finished, from what I can remember
[04:41] <Poul^Laptop> no cosmo
[04:42] <sebrock> Is it still a big issue with sound not working after suspending?
[04:42] <Lupin> mintol we talking about next heard or when 7 is final
[04:42] <Poul^Laptop> i just used a script whihc installed the eyecandy and nvidia drivers
[04:42] <mintol> Lupin, i'd say the latter
[04:42] <thornomad> gepatino: I think what I might do is write the list of files to a file temporarily, and then, when I am in the loop performing each function on each file, will just run down the loop using: cat tmp | read while var ... thanks
[04:42] <Lupin> ahh I havent been keeping up on 7 do you know the ETA?
[04:42] <Helmi> is there a good alternative to gdesklets or a repo somewhere with further desktlets?
[04:42] <mintol> not the easiest of tasks to make it work properly with the cell architecture, especially when it should not be the main priority
[04:42] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: you might need to run that script again
[04:42] <Poul^Laptop> hmm
[04:43] <Lupin> mintol thats true but I think the PS3 could turn into a real good thing for Linux as a whole
[04:43] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: when you make custom changes to your kernel (like compiling and adding drivers) not included in Ubuntu's kernels, they'll not be moved into an updated kernel
[04:43] <mintol> Lupin, I see it the other way around, myself
[04:43] <Poul^Laptop> gotta find it then. But anyway, what is it that change when it add a new line on the boot screen.
[04:43] <mintol> linux could turn into a real good thing for the PS3
[04:43] <Lupin> its a unified hardware platform which for the end user could make linux simplier
[04:43] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: it installs a new kernel, probably due to security reasons
[04:43] <Poul^Laptop> aha, so it is a update to the kernel
[04:43] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: right
[04:43] <wba> Lupin, the wikipedian?
[04:44] <ubunt2> LjL Ignoring /dev/hdb1 - already in /etc/fstab
[04:44] <Lupin> wba?
[04:44] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: to your safety, the old one won't be deleted from your system
[04:44] <wba> Lupin, ?
[04:44] <wba> are u?
[04:44] <Poul^Laptop> ye, have like 5 now to sellect on boot screen
[04:44] <Poul^Laptop> gotta learn how to delete em
[04:44] <Lupin> Are you asking if Im some big name editor from the Wiki?
[04:44] <Lupin> if so then no
[04:44] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: you may delete one of those older ones if you think you won't need them anymore
[04:44] <wba> ah
[04:44] <Poul^Laptop> Anyway, whats the command for running the xserver config thing
[04:45] <ubunt2> LjL mount hdb1
[04:45] <ubunt2> mount: can't find hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:45] <Lupin> and if a distro of linux ever takes full advantage of the PS3 or any 3rd Party OS then it could become the cheapest most powerful PC
[04:46] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:46] <ubunt2> LjL man this link are not working the now can't mount the partition
[04:46] <mintol> Lupin, just a shame you don't have access to the gpu as of yet so it's only a good story on paper :P
[04:46] <Poul^Laptop> ye thats the one cosmo
[04:46] <Lupin> yeah these are all pretty big "ifs"
[04:48] <LjL> ubunt2: may you kindly give me the *full* commands that you typed? you surely didn't just type "mount hdb1", especially not when it gave you the error " Ignoring /dev/hdb1 - already in /etc/fstab"
[04:48] <Poul^Laptop> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia    cosmodad - thats the script i ran
[04:48] <Lupin> wow 1046 people and no Ops. Somehow that just feels very "Linux" to me
[04:49] <ubunt2> LjL man i can mount but i can't put files in that hdd
[04:49] <Poul^Laptop> cosmo, can i copy that to file and save it and then run it with a command when i get in with the new kernel, so i dont have to write all that stuff
[04:49] <superkirbyartist> !epsxe
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epsxe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <superkirbyartist> !psx
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: hold on, not faimilar with beryl
[04:49] <Poul^Laptop> k
[04:49] <Faithful> Ok... envy rocks!!!
[04:49] <superkirbyartist> Anyone knows of an Ubuntu PSX emulator, please?
[04:49] <ubunt2> is there some program that make i auto.
[04:49] <thinh> can anyone help me with external monitor in docking station?
[04:49] <LjL> ubunt2: perhaps you should have said that. you didn't even really ask a question.
[04:50] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad - i belive the script is installing the nvidia driver and beryl
[04:50] <Blissex> superkirbyartist: they are illegal in most places, but there are a few floating around, find the sources and compile.
[04:50] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: yeah seems to be
[04:50] <LjL> ubunt2: anyway, by default only root can write to a FAT or NTFS drive. follow the instructions on the site carefully, and you'll be able to write files as a normal user. otherwise, just type "gksudo nautilus" in a shell, and you'll have a root-mode filebrowser
[04:50] <ep2011> Is there any reason not to resize and create partitions with the ubuntu installer? Im reading a tutorial which says not to, but I was given the idea that you should use it?
[04:50] <superkirbyartist> Blissex: I have a PS1 and CDs.  That's not illegal.
[04:50] <Lupin> superkirbyartist http://www.epsxe.com/files/epsxe160lin.zip
[04:50] <superkirbyartist> Lupin: Is that proprietary?
[04:51] <ubunt2> LJL are you shure?
[04:51] <Lupin> its source
[04:51] <Crazytom> what's the package for wpa wireless security again?
[04:51] <Lupin> i think idk
[04:51] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, can i copy it to a file save it and run the file in some way, because i wont have grafic/firefox to find the script when i reboot with the new kernel
[04:51] <Thug-N-Me> does anyone know how to (mount) browser nokia phones ?
[04:51] <Blissex> superkirbyartist: but copyright law gives Sony absolute control over how their stuff is handled...
[04:51] <superkirbyartist> Crazytom: Feisty will have better wireless.
[04:51] <LjL> ubunt2: i'm not even sure the universe is not an illusion so no.
[04:51] <Crazytom> ok?.....
[04:51] <thinh> is there a way to probe to see what monitor is connecting to the computer or docking station?
[04:51] <clearzen> In postgres how can I list the tables that have already been created?
[04:52] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: which method did you use, the 123-method?
[04:52] <pharsalus> Anybody know details about the next release of Feisty?
[04:52] <mbac> clearzen, \dt ?
[04:52] <nexousNET> Hi, I have a png icon that I want to have as my start icon, How do I go about doing that?
[04:52] <Lupin> oh my friend is having problems getting his Linksys WiFi working on UBUNTU is there a guide I could link him to?
[04:52] <Crazytom> superkirbyartist, i'm trying to help someone right now i just can't remember the name of the package
[04:52] <pharsalus> Release times etc.?
[04:52] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad yes
[04:52] <Thug-N-Me> anyone here able to help me mounting ... a nokia phone using the usb connection ? i would like to browser the phone contend
[04:52] <clearzen>  mbac: thank you
[04:52] <superkirbyartist> !wireless
[04:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:52] <Thug-N-Me> !nokia
[04:52] <ubunt2> LJL it say that the drive is read-only
[04:52] <mbac> clearzen, that worked?
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nokia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad the stuff in "2:"
[04:52] <Thug-N-Me> !phone
[04:52] <superkirbyartist> !my mom
[04:52] <mbac> it's been awhile since i used postgres
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <LjL> !botabuse
[04:52] <thinh> anyone have good documentation on xorg?
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my mom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:52] <LjL> ubunt2: after you did what.
[04:53] <CheshireViking> how can i reset the password on kde wallet? I installed Kopete (running under gnome) to give me webcam facilities for msn and mistakenly entered a password for kwallet - I want to delete the password so that Kopete will connect automatically
[04:53] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: ok... yeah sure copy that stuff into a file, make it executable and next time make sure you execute it  with sudo
[04:53] <nexousNET> How do i change my main menu icon?
[04:53] <ep2011> Is there any reason not to resize and create partitions with the ubuntu installer? Im reading a tutorial which says not to, but I was given the idea that you should use it?
[04:54] <Crazytom> superkirbyartist, funny
[04:54] <cosmodad> ep2011: you should always backup data before doing resizing with any tool
[04:54] <thinh> anyone good with xorg conf?
[04:54] <ubunt2> LjL i didn't so nothing,for that i ask you how to mount ???
[04:54] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, i am very new to linux, whats the command to run the file  / make it executable
[04:54] <superkirbyartist> Thank you for your time.
[04:54] <ep2011> cosmodad: Thats not what I'm asking, I'm  asking if theres any reason to use Gparted live cd to partition instead of the ubuntu installer?
[04:55] <Menasim1> is it ubuntu or Ubuntu?
[04:55] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: do you have GUI right now?
[04:55] <Poul^Laptop> ye
[04:55] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad yes
[04:55] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: so open a file in an editor, like "gedit ~/beryl-nvidia-installation"
[04:55] <cosmodad> ep2011: not that I know of
[04:55] <ep2011> Okay, Thank you
[04:56] <spawn311> all I am having issues with the dhclient connecting thur my router
[04:56] <ep2011> Once I finish defragging I'll install. :)
[04:56] <LjL> ubunt2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-2a64a964ff8833576586c7216a1199f022c505a6 explains how to add an entry to fstab, and how to make it so that all users have write access to it, and how to finally mount it. read it. do it. if it doesn't work, *then* ask.
[04:56] <cosmodad> ep2011: let me rephrase this: not that *I* know of
[04:56] <spawn311> when I connect directly to the asdl modem everything is fine
[04:56] <bayziders> Is any one here familiar with vmware?
[04:56] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: copy and paste the stuff from 2. into the opened file
[04:56] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, the file is made, now how to run it from command line
[04:57] <bayziders> I need help installing it
[04:57] <Menasim1> how can I update GNOME?
[04:57] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: ok once you saved and close it, open up a terminal and do "chmod u+x <filename>"
[04:57] <erUSUL> !vmware > bayziders
[04:57] <spawn311> I am using edgy -- makes no sense when the adsl modem gives me back an ip address via dhcp and the same thing is happening thur the router but no ip address comes back
[04:57] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: next time you need to call it from console, do "sudo ./<filename>"
[04:58] <nexousNET> How do i change my main menu icon?
[04:58] <levmatta> #ubuntu
[04:58] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad thx, gonna try then
[04:58] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: sorry wrong one... this is right: sudo bash <filename>
[04:58] <scane> hi. why can't i say "aptitude install mc" and then "mc" on 6.10?
[04:58] <Poul^Laptop> aha
[04:58] <LjL> !info mc edgy | scane
[04:58] <ubotu> scane: mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[04:58] <LjL> scane: probably because you don't have universe enabled
[04:58] <spawn311> has anyone seen the dhclient do strange things like I describe above?
[04:58] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, wronge one for running or make it executable
[04:58] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: alternatively, you may put "#!/bin/bash" at the top of the script and just use "sudo ./<filename>"
[04:59] <ryan_> Any tips for Flash 9?
[04:59] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: for running
[04:59] <thinh> anyone see me typing or do i need to be a register user for someone to respond back too?
[04:59] <LjL> !flash9 | ryan_
[04:59] <ubotu> ryan_: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:59] <ubunt2> LJL it is in NTFS \
[04:59] <ryan_> ty :)
[04:59] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad ok, adding that stuff to it and rebooting to try. :) thx for help
[04:59] <erUSUL> spawn311: afaik ppp (adsl modem) connections doesn't use dhcp
[04:59] <scane> LjL, thank you. I will try and find out what the heck that means *grmpf*
[04:59] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: np
[04:59] <doriano71> ciao a tutti mi potreste aiutare, non capisco un passaggio nell'abilitare 3DAti
[04:59] <erUSUL> thinh: we can read you
[04:59] <LjL> !universe > scane    (scane, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:59] <thinh> okey thanks
[04:59] <LjL> !it | doriano71
[04:59] <ubotu> doriano71: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:00] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, last thing  "#!/bin/bash"  dont the # mean its outcomment?
[05:00] <doriano71> ok
[05:00] <scane> LjL, oh great thank you!
[05:00] <thinh> need help with external monitor connected to a docking station
[05:00] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: usually yes, but #! is special: it means "use the following binary to interpret this script"
[05:00] <LjL> ubunt2: then you can't write to it. not by normal means, at any rate.
[05:00] <LjL> !fuse | ubunt2
[05:00] <ubotu> ubunt2: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:00] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, ok rebooting thx.
[05:00] <thinh> anyone whenever you are free
[05:00] <Varsendaggr> akkk     "music player"   rhythmbox    can't recognize mp3's   how do i get it to do this?
[05:00] <spawn311> erUSUL: the adsl modem gets the settings from the co I guess and hands them off to the client -- which should be the same thing as the router is doing just an extra step
[05:01] <LjL> !ntfs-3g | ubunt2, also
[05:01] <ubotu> ubunt2, also: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:01] <spawn311> erUSUL: the adsl modem gets the settings from the co I guess and hands them off to the client -- which should be the same thing as the router is doing just an extra step
[05:01] <FrOzenBit> can i run ts with wine??
[05:01] <LjL> ubunt2: i'd recommend against both, though. if you need to write to NTFS, just use Windows
[05:01] <ubunt2> LjL and if this ntfs-3g delete some data
[05:01] <FrOzenBit> can i run ts with wine??
[05:01] <LjL> ubunt2: that is why i recommend against it.
[05:02] <crdlb> FrOzenBit, ts?
[05:02] <FrOzenBit> teamspeak
[05:02] <erUSUL> spawn311: yes i know but in ppp connections is pppd the program getting the ip adresses no dhcp...
[05:02] <nexousNET> I put my file as /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:02] <LjL> FrOzenBit: winehq has a list of applications that run with wine.
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> !mp3 | Varsendaggr
[05:02] <nexousNET> but the main menu icon, didn't change.
[05:02] <ubotu> Varsendaggr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:02] <ubunt2> LjL ok and th UBUNTU 7 is will be enable to do it auto
[05:02] <FrOzenBit> @LjL: where can i find such a list?
[05:02] <LjL> ubunt2: i doubt it
[05:02] <LjL> FrOzenBit: err... at winehq.
[05:03] <ubunt2> LjL ok and then that is
[05:03] <FrOzenBit> @LjL: ubuntuusers.de??
[05:03] <LjL> FrOzenBit: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[05:03] <spawn311> erUSUR: I do dhclient eth0 when it is directly connected to adsl modem and I get DHCPREQUEST on eth0 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 72.x.x.x bound to 72.x.x.x -- renewal in xxxx seconds
[05:03] <m1r> hi all
[05:03] <FrOzenBit> LjL: thx!
[05:03] <erUSUL> spawn311: and the problem is?
[05:04] <spawn311> when I go thur the router it just does DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 port 67 interval xxx and never gets a ACK and never gets bound
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> he can't get connected... sounds like a vmware issue... i have to do ifconfig vmnet* down to get my connection working with this verizon ppp0
[05:05] <spawn311> the same ADSL modem is connected to the router
[05:05] <spawn311> so in theory it just has one more hop to make
[05:05] <erUSUL> spawn311: what are trying to do?
[05:06] <spawn311> just bring up the eth0 interface so I can connect to inet and not have to be directly plugged into asdl modem like I am right now
[05:08] <spawn311> the interface is up but it is just not bounding to the dhclient and therefore I get no connection to inet when connecting thur the router to the adsl modem
[05:08] <BENN92647> hey all been awhile..ubuntu 6.10 Edgy rules the world!
[05:08] <erUSUL> spawn311: what type of reouter are you connected to?  72.x.x.x ip's are not of the ones used in LANs (10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x) are you directly wired to inet?
[05:10] <BENN92647> automatix did a great job installing abunch of things...but now i cant use my IDE CD ROM or my IDE DVD/DVD-RW i tried to mounting and unmounting focefully but nothing is working can you help please
[05:10] <spawn311> erUSL: here is the deal right now my laptop has a cat cable going from the port on the back of the computer and plugged directly into a black box that my isp gave me that on the bottom it says adsl modem that box then uses the phone lines in my house to connect to the isp/inet and so on
[05:11] <ikonia> spawn311: with you so far...
[05:11] <smacnay> holly cow - people in here!!!  I am thinking of putting ubuntu on a machine for the first time.  I have the install cd.  Should I be partitioning the hd for various dir (/var /etc) or just do a default install?
[05:11] <ikonia> smacnay: up to you
[05:11] <ikonia> personal choice
[05:12] <ikonia> (/etc can't be a partition FYI)
[05:12] <spawn311> and doing that ifconfig reports that eth0 I get 72.49.123.252
[05:12] <JohnPhys> smacnay: I haven't had any issues doing the default install, have done it on 3 machines
[05:12] <ikonia> spawn311: ok
[05:12] <spawn311> and connection to the inet works
[05:12] <ikonia> yup
[05:12] <ikonia> with you so far
[05:12] <spawn311> what I am trying to do is this
[05:13] <smacnay> JohnPhys: thanks
[05:13] <BENN92647> i just did a clean install of ubuntu and then got one of my old IDE window XP hardrives to dual boot
[05:13] <ikonia> BENN92647: and ?
[05:13] <zismuc> Hola
[05:13] <smacnay> ikonia: seems on my Debian machine, I run out of /var space with installation of gnome or kde and latex with fonts.
[05:13] <dirrty>  Morning Ya'll...I have firestarter and Iam getting hits on port 41385 from one IP a lot ???
[05:13] <BENN92647> didnt see a real reason to do a partion
[05:13] <zismuc> tengo problemas con mis particiones de disco duro
[05:13] <zismuc> alguien me ayuda
[05:13] <thinh> what the command for see how many monitor you have connected to the computer?
[05:13] <cosmodad> smacnay: if you're new to linux and you're not sure how to partition the space, I'd recommend sticking to one or two partitions
[05:13] <zismuc> uso ubuntu edgy
[05:13] <zismuc> ??
[05:13] <spawn311> take my laptop cat5 cable connect it to my belkin router port, it's uplink port is connected to the adsl modem/black box from the isp and get an inet connection
[05:13] <ikonia> dirrty: and ?
[05:13] <Desp_> hi all
[05:14] <Desp_> how can i add scanner to ubuntu 6.10
[05:14] <ikonia> Desp_: plug it in
[05:14] <cosmodad> !spanish | zismuc
[05:14] <ubotu> zismuc: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:14] <dirrty>  Why am I being attacted
[05:14] <MrFeetio> im looking for a instant messanger for linux (I don't like gaim)
[05:14] <Desp_> then how to scan
[05:14] <megabunny> That's exactly why you partition. var fills and the machine grinds down gracefully
[05:14] <ikonia> dirrty: because you're on the internet
[05:14] <spawn311> when I do that eth0 never gets 72.x.x.x address and the dhclient reports back no working leases perstistant in database and sleeping now
[05:14] <megabunny> you just log on single user and clear some cruft out of var
[05:15] <ardchoille> ikonia: lol
[05:15] <Desp_> I was trieng to fix it from epson.conf file
[05:15] <megabunny> then you reboot normally and clean the underlying problem
[05:15] <thinh> is there a nvidia  configuration file for scanning the monitor?
[05:15] <Desp_> but still dont work
[05:15] <BENN92647> if you plan on running window and linux on the same drive i can see the need obviously for a partion, otherwise I agree you dont really need to...LINUX is so incredible with making it easy to creat folders you can just use them to store things
[05:15] <smacnay> cosmodad: I have been using linux for some time but have not installed a distro in ages.  I plan to install on to a 250 gig drive and would like to partition some of the drive but don't want to run out of space on any used partition like /var
[05:15] <phreakazoid> MrFeetio: Kopete (KDE based packages)
[05:15] <disposable> i have two SATA drives(sda,sdb) in AHCI mode. feisty install went ok (to sda), grub went onto (hd0). when i try to boot i get no bootable device. anybody's got a clue what could be wrong?
[05:15] <ikonia> spawn311: because your machine has got the public facing ip address, so plugging in your laptop at the same time won't allow it to get an ip
[05:15] <spawn311> I even tweaked the interfaces file to have gateway pointing to the correct ip address
[05:15] <intelikey> would someone that knows grub take a look at my configs and tell me what is wrong     http://pastebin.ca/398849     if lilo loads the vmlinuz and initrd pair it boots just fine,  if grub loads them  "and it does that ok"  it times out waiting for the root fs then i have to mount it and it continues booting...
[05:15] <cosmodad> smacnay: then I'd recommend using google and learn a bit about partitioning
[05:16] <cosmodad> smacnay: or even lvm which is a more elegant way of partitioning
[05:16] <brainiac8008> Anyone know how to fix this?  Sometimes, when I shut down my computer in ubuntu dapper, it brings me to a black and white screen.  It then says something like "noah-login:"  If I wait about 15 secs, it continues shutting down and shuts off.  Any ideas?
[05:16] <eXcAliBuR> My Ubuuntu is saying I need JUnit ... how can i get it?
[05:16] <ikonia> brainiac8008: its called "shutting down"
[05:16] <spawn311> well if it worked then I should get a 192.168.x.x from router right
[05:16] <Iskios> amsn is a good an easy messenger
[05:16] <intelikey> grub help  ?
[05:16] <ikonia> eXcAliBuR: what wants Junit ?
[05:16] <spawn311> not the 72.x.x.x address right
[05:16] <rausb0> spawn311: in this scenario your router must do the dhcp request itself. dhcp from the notebook cannot be routed.
[05:16] <ardchoille> ikonia: May I pm you?
[05:16] <ikonia> spawn311: yup
[05:16] <cosmodad> brainiac8008: hit ctrl+alt-f1 and you'll see that image again
[05:16] <ikonia> ardchoille: yeah sure
[05:16] <aldin> intelikey: say ur problem
[05:16] <BENN92647> i have a fairly simple question, but the standard answers haven't worked:automatix did a great job installing abunch of things...but now i cant use my IDE CD ROM or my IDE DVD/DVD-RW i tried to mounting and unmounting focefully but nothing is working can you help please
[05:16] <eXcAliBuR> ummm apache-ant needs it to compile
[05:16] <cosmodad> brainiac8008: it's just the console, don't worry
[05:16] <linxeh> brainiac8008: so it shut down X first, then took you to a virtual console before that shutdown, and then turned off
[05:17] <intelikey> aldin i did
[05:17] <intelikey> aldin do you want me to repost ?
[05:17] <brainiac8008> so it's normal?
[05:17] <eXcAliBuR> ikonia: ummm apache-ant needs it to compile
[05:17] <spawn311> rausb8: so do I need to set something on the router
[05:17] <rausb0> spawn311: so if your router's uplink port cannot be configured as a dhcp client, you are out of luck
[05:17] <cosmodad> brainiac8008: at least it's nothing to worry about :)
[05:17] <phreakazoid> intelikey: i think there's no "boot" at line 15
[05:17] <ikonia> eXcAliBuR: where ar eyou getting apache-ant from ? the ubuntu repo's ?
[05:17] <intelikey> phreakazoid does it need one ?
[05:17] <thinh> is there a problem if you dual monitor if one of them is not connected?
[05:17] <Riga> unsure
[05:17] <aldin> intelikey: wait i will look up for it
[05:18] <BENN92647> lol
[05:18] <eXcAliBuR> ikonia: i downloaded it from site and trying to do sh build.sh
[05:18] <cosmodad> BENN92647: what do you mean forcefully?
[05:18] <spawn311> but, here is the strange part this laptop is a dual booting machine and it works using the exact same procedure under windoze -- so I have no idea what the issue is then
[05:18] <phreakazoid> intelikey: yeah, it wont boot if you did tell it to boot, it will just mount the kernel, and the initrd
[05:18] <smacnay> hmm, I wish I knew why my cdrom drive gives a 'lost interrupt' error.
[05:18] <cosmodad> BENN92647: can you mount/umount "without force" at least?
[05:18] <ikonia> eXcAliBuR: thats the problem, use the ubuntu repo's
[05:19] <eXcAliBuR> ikonia: how do i make that happen?
[05:19] <brainiac8008> anyone know when the next lts version of ubuntu is coming out?
[05:19] <ikonia> eXcAliBuR: use synatpci for example to get it from the repo
[05:19] <BENN92647> cosmodad-did the sudo -0 hide to get edgy to release all then did the code to mount and nothing is working
[05:19] <intelikey> phreakazoid it does that and drops me into a busybox shell after 5 minutes.  i hope it's a simple as one word addition
[05:19] <jgrau> if my system works when i modprobe a device, how do i make that module run at startup?
[05:19] <aldin> intelikey: sory i dont know this
[05:19] <cosmodad> BENN92647: sorry, I don't know a thing about automatix -- is this mounting part of it=?
[05:20] <ikonia> I know not to use automatix
[05:20] <erUSUL> jgrau: add it to /etc/modules
[05:20] <intelikey> aldin k thanks.
[05:20] <intelikey> phreakazoid i'll test it but it takes for ever to get back if it fails.
[05:21] <AaronMT> Any bash script gurus online? Im wondering how I can output something between certain rows (tput)
[05:21] <Callipides> ich bin nicht hierfr zustndig.
[05:21] <phreakazoid> intelikey: hold on lemme checks mine
[05:21] <ikonia> AaronMT: bash support in #bash
[05:21] <erUSUL> jgrau: sudo sh -c "echo modulename >> /etc/modules" should work but you can use any text editor
[05:21] <BENN92647> cosomodad no all automatix2 (similar to easy ubuntu) did was install alot of apps i needed one of them was a DVD back up utility and i was dumb and had a DVD in there and now it wont allow me to mount either
[05:21] <HollywoodCode> hey how do i open a .rar file with ubuntu, anyone??
[05:21] <erUSUL> !rar > HollywoodCode
[05:21] <phreakazoid> intelikey: yup, correct. :D
[05:21] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: install rar from the none from repo's and unrar it
[05:22] <eXcAliBuR> ikonia: i'm lost wit synatpci ... can u give me a full command to type?
[05:22] <HollywoodCode> should i apt-get rar    ?
[05:22] <ikonia> eXcAliBuR: if you're lost the the package manager - then you shouldn't be trying to compile software
[05:22] <intelikey> phreakazoid ok edited and going to test.
[05:22] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: no - search for the correct package name in the repo's
[05:22] <eXcAliBuR> i'm running Ubuntu Server
[05:22] <thinh> under nvidia display device its says seiko is that my external screen or is that my internal screen?
[05:22] <ikonia> eXcAliBuR: so ?
[05:22] <cosmodad> BENN92647: if you mount something, it should be displayed on your desktop... what happens if you right click -> umount?
[05:22] <cosmodad> BENN92647: or remove or whatever it's called...
[05:22] <phreakazoid> intelikey: cool. hope it works!
[05:22] <bayziders> How can I  delete my windows partition and add it to my ubuntu one?
[05:22] <HollywoodCode> what package should i get?
[05:22] <KlasRudian> hmmm i have some trouble with my mic, i can't seem to get up the volume on the mic... hda intel sndcard, any1 got any idea??
[05:23] <brainiac8008> anyone dissapointed with not being able to view shockwave files, quicktime files and/or windows media on the internet?  is there any way to work around it (anyone know of plugins for this?)
[05:23] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: search the repos
[05:23] <enyc> dhaval: weird....
[05:23] <darren> hi all
[05:23] <HollywoodCode> in console or add/remove  ?
[05:23] <ikonia> brainiac8008: not disspointed as it works like a charm
[05:23] <BENN92647> all that is showing on my desk top is my downloads folder and my hdc1
[05:23] <pestilence> bayziders: use parted, or a graphical frontend like qtparted
[05:23] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: your choice
[05:23] <cosmodad> brainiac8008: same here
[05:23] <jgrau> thanxx :)
[05:23] <cosmodad> brainiac8008: I mean it works
[05:23] <darren> as a noob can someone tell me how my username can have the same permissions as root
[05:23] <brainiac8008> how does it work?
[05:23] <cosmodad> darren: sudo
[05:23] <pestilence> darren: you can't.
[05:23] <ikonia> darren: change the uid to 0 - but you don't need that as you have sudo
[05:23] <enrique> Hi, I can't install my printer, the printer option isn't in the menu, how can i solve that?
[05:23] <erUSUL> ubotu tell darren about sudo | darren see priv msg from ubotu
[05:24] <rausb0> spawn311: maybe windows does some zeroconf braindeadness with your router, making it a proxy for dhcp requests
[05:24] <aldin> bayziders: which one u want to delete
[05:24] <darren> i want to edit a text file but when i do and try and save it it tells me that i dont have permission
[05:24] <rvega> hi all room!!!
[05:24] <pestilence> !hi
[05:24] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:24] <ikonia> darren: change the permissions on the file, or write to a place you have permissions
[05:24] <brainiac8008> cosmodad, how do the things i listed work for u?
[05:24] <rvega> i have e problem with xubuntu installation
[05:24] <shatrat> darren, what file is it? if its a system file you need to edit as administrator
[05:24] <pestilence> darren: use sudo
[05:24] <rvega> i was talking with people of #xubunut
[05:25] <darren> its a file which contains the bluetooth info
[05:25] <cosmodad> brainiac8008: I'm not sure about shockwave but WMV works out of box
[05:25] <cosmodad> brainiac8008: using firefox
[05:25] <rvega> but nothing
[05:25] <BENN92647> cosmodad- all that is on my desktop is my hdc1 and my download folder
[05:25] <pestilence> !tell darren about sudo
[05:25] <salty> darren: 'sudo gedit <filetobeedited>
[05:25] <rvega> gparted not recognize my partitions
[05:25] <cosmodad> BENN92647: is there a disc mounted right now?
[05:25] <jgrau> after installing beryl, the border of my windows have disappeared. I'm using an nvidia card.
[05:25] <darren> thanks everyone, i'll give that a try now
[05:25] <cosmodad> BENN92647: hdc1 is your CD/DVD drive isn't it?
[05:25] <bayziders> im in gparted but all my partitions have locks next to them,so it wont let me resize and delete.
[05:25] <cosmodad> brainiac8008: using firefox
[05:25] <bayziders>  What do I do?
[05:26] <brainiac8008> cosmodad, when i try to view a wmv online, it says i need a plugin, and then it doesn't find 1
[05:26] <BENN92647> cosmodad-nope its my SATA drive
[05:26] <eXcAliBuR> ikonia: I searched for synatpci in the Ubuntu manual and it wasn't found
[05:26] <pestilence> bayziders: are you running as superuser?
[05:26] <bayziders> umm
[05:26] <bayziders> no
[05:26] <pestilence> bayziders: run under gksu
[05:26] <ikonia> eXcAliBuR: its not on the server edition as you don't have x
[05:26] <cosmodad> brainiac8008: there's this FF extension called media connectivity or something, you could try that
[05:26] <bayziders> just gksu GParted ?
[05:26] <eXcAliBuR> ikonia : so then about getting apache-ant ?? how to??
[05:26] <pestilence> bayziders: should be
[05:26] <cosmodad> BENN92647: so something mounted right now?
[05:26] <cosmodad> BENN92647: a disc, that is?
[05:26] <chalmer> help
[05:26] <ikonia> eXcAliBuR: you need to read the basic "how to use ubuntu" docs on ubuntu.com
[05:27] <Lamego> or help.ubuntu.com
[05:27] <chalmer> help w/ services
[05:27] <eXcAliBuR> :(
[05:27] <intelikey>          adding boot changed nothing.
[05:27] <bayziders> it says command not found
[05:27] <LordLimecat> hey, i have a question o.0
[05:27] <ikonia> LordLimecat: you may get an answer if you ask it
[05:27] <LordLimecat> how can i make a video of my desktop so i can show off
[05:27] <ss4x> rc.azzurra.net
[05:28] <BENN92647> cosmodad-no it has been there it shows my hadrdrive and my downloads folder i created but no other storage devfices (i.e my CD ROM or my DVD-RW)
[05:28] <LordLimecat> :D
[05:28] <pestilence> bayziders: are you running ubuntu?
[05:28] <bayziders> yes
[05:28] <bayziders> edgy
[05:28] <ikonia> LordLimecat: some sort of screen capture app, search the repo
[05:28] <LordLimecat> i need to show others how inferior their desktops are
[05:28] <KlasRudian> i got extremly low volume from my microphone, can't seem to get it up to any "hearble" level.... is there a mic boost somewere i missed  or??
[05:28] <ikonia> LordLimecat: other desktops are probably fine
[05:28] <LordLimecat> no recommendations?
[05:28] <ikonia> no
[05:28] <bayziders> Lord: I feel the same way
[05:28] <LordLimecat> (i meant windows desktops) :)
[05:28] <bayziders> google screencast
[05:28] <ikonia> whats wrong with windows desktops
[05:28] <ikonia> nothing
[05:28] <cosmodad> BENN92647: can you re-open the drive and close it again? or is that what's not working?
[05:28] <LordLimecat> screencast?
[05:28] <LordLimecat> tanks
[05:28] <LordLimecat> :D
[05:28] <pestilence> bayziders: what command did you type?
[05:28] <ikonia> never used screencast so I'll have a look at it too
[05:28] <intelikey> can someone give me the url to that pastebin i posted just a few minutes ago?
[05:28] <chalmer> starting PCMCIA service (faild) on boot up ?
[05:28] <bayziders> gksu GParted
[05:29] <pestilence> bayziders: no caps
[05:29] <pestilence> bayziders: gksu gparted
[05:29] <LordLimecat> oh, other question--what exactly about automatix do ppl think is bad?
[05:29] <oem_fh> quit
[05:29] <jason_> where is the feisty channel?
[05:29] <ikonia> LordLimecat: its rubbish
[05:29] <LordLimecat> i dont use it much, but it seems to work well o.0
[05:29] <chalmer> starting PCMCIA service (faild) on boot up ?
[05:29] <pestilence> #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <LordLimecat> jason_: ubuntu+1
[05:29] <bayziders> it worked but they still all have locks
[05:29] <cosmodad> LordLimecat: it's automation
[05:29] <ikonia> jason_: ubuntu+1
[05:29] <bayziders> should I just pop in my live cd and do it from there
[05:29] <LordLimecat> cosmodad: but all that its doing is apt-get installs, right?
[05:29] <LordLimecat> whats so bad about automating that
[05:29] <BENN92647> cosmodad-i can open and close it but for some reason it doesnt show in my cdrom0 file or on my directory but they do show connected to my computer ???
[05:29] <ikonia> LordLimecat: not really
[05:30] <pestilence> bayziders: probably
[05:30] <rausb0> intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/398849
[05:30] <ikonia> LordLimecat: if you like it - use it
[05:30] <nexousNET> How do I change the icon size of icons in the menu?
[05:30] <ikonia> most hate it
[05:30] <darren> another odd thing. I just spent about 45 mins installing LinuxMCE (before updating ubuntu from a fresh install) and it hasn't appeared under applications
[05:30] <pestilence> you shouldn't do it on mounted partitions
[05:30] <bayziders> in that case i will be back
[05:30] <intelikey> rausb0 ty
[05:30] <LordLimecat> alright o.0
[05:30] <cosmodad> LordLimecat: things can go wrong if stuff changes
[05:30] <chalmer> starting PCMCIA service (faild) on boot up !!!   whats that mean?
[05:30] <LordLimecat> ah
[05:30] <LordLimecat> i see
[05:30] <Andeh> Hello
[05:30] <ikonia> darren: how did you install linuxMCE
[05:30] <cosmodad> LordLimecat: and if you keep automating while stuff is screwed, more stuff will get screwed
[05:30] <chalmer> anyboddy
[05:30] <Andeh> I installed wine but every single program gives me errors!
[05:30] <darren> from the cd
[05:30] <ikonia> darren: and then you installed ubuntu
[05:30] <Andeh> Is there something i missed? It seems they cant access other files...?
[05:31] <dumezil> anyone know much about chinese input in ubuntu?  ive got it working in most programs, but in firefox it doesn't work...
[05:31] <chalmer> starting PCMCIA service (faild) on boot up !!!   whats that mean?
[05:31] <darren> no
[05:31] <cosmodad> BENN92647: did you try a different disc?
[05:31] <darren> ubuntu first
[05:31] <darren> then linuxmce
[05:31] <ikonia> darren: linuxmce from the ubuntu cd ?
[05:31] <darren> no, seperate download
[05:32] <ikonia> ok - ubuntu isn't aware of linuxmce as its not package for ubuntu
[05:32] <intelikey> so who is good with grub issues ?   i have a grub that loads the kernel and initrd but doesn't mount the root fs    http://pastebin.ca/398849   ?
[05:32] <chalmer> starting PCMCIA service (faild) on boot up !!!   whats that mean?
[05:32] <ikonia> darren: so it won't appear on your applications as gnome isn't aware of it
[05:32] <KlasRudian> chalmer, that you PCMCIA isn't working... you even got it on you computer??
[05:32] <BENN92647> cosmodad-well first i have to get linux to mount my DVD ROM lol I can put anything I want in ther ebut it wont let me see anything
[05:32] <Andeh> Anybody here good with Wine?
[05:32] <thinh> what the line i need to add in xorg to disable nvidia?
[05:32] <ikonia> Andeh: the people in #wine and #wine-hq are really good
[05:32] <bayziders> =D
[05:32] <Andeh> ok
[05:32] <Andeh> thanks
[05:32] <bayziders> tru dat
[05:32] <LordLimecat> ihuh
[05:32] <ikonia> thinh: you don't disable nvidia - you select the drivers
[05:32] <chalmer> what is it?
[05:32] <LordLimecat> theres built in screencastingin edgy
[05:32] <cosmodad> BENN92647: I don't get that
[05:32] <KlasRudian> chalmer, it's mostly laptop's that has it
[05:32] <LordLimecat> ffmpeg
[05:32] <LordLimecat> installed by default
[05:32] <cosmodad> BENN92647: you have Ubuntu up and running or not?
[05:32] <chalmer> ok
[05:33] <darren> ok thanks
[05:33] <thinh> i mean disable the nvidia logo on boot up my bad
[05:33] <KlasRudian> chalmer, it's extention cars that you could hotplug...
[05:33] <ahubcap> #newuser
[05:33] <darren> not i think it'll be any good to me anyway as I'm in the UK and i think its a very US centric product
[05:33] <KlasRudian> cards*
[05:33] <ikonia> thinh: option logo false (something like that) in the video card options
[05:33] <Andeh> Ok that's great, except there are no persons in wine and wine hq
[05:33] <Andeh> Nobody active anyway
[05:33] <chalmer> so its nothing to do w/ why i cant get my wireless pci card to get internet?
[05:33] <thinh> okey thanks
[05:34] <BENN92647> cosmodad-everything is fine, i cant get ubuntu to mount my IDE drives is the only problem
[05:34] <thinh> anyone know how to enable a external monitor in xorg?
[05:34] <darren> is there any way I can access the contents of my shared PC's on this ubuntu machine?
[05:34] <thinh> what the command to probe for a monitor?
[05:34] <Andeh> Now i installed wine and my programs give me errors when i start them because they cant load files that are right next to them
[05:34] <KlasRudian> chalmer, as long it's not a PCMCIA card it has nothing to do with that
[05:34] <cosmodad> BENN92647: even your hard disks?
[05:34] <ikonia> thinh: configure a secon screen
[05:34] <Andeh> Do i have to configure something?
[05:34] <cosmodad> darren: ssh, samba, nfs
[05:34] <intelikey> grub help  ?        http://pastebin.ca/398875
[05:34] <cosmodad> darren: pick one
[05:34] <thinh> what you mean >
[05:34] <HollywoodCode> i need a .rar extractor can anyone help??
[05:34] <darren> sounds way complicated to me!
[05:34] <Andeh> 7-Zip is a good rar extractor i think
[05:34] <ikonia> thinh: there are sections called screens - configure a second one, then add it to your layout
[05:34] <Andeh> google it
[05:35] <ikonia> darren: then don't do it
[05:35] <darren> can't I just tell this pc that its part of my windows workgroup?
[05:35] <arooni> hey folks... hwo di i delete an alias value?
[05:35] <KlasRudian> HollywoodCode, Ark with installed unrar
[05:35] <Andeh> Can anyone here help me with wine? Anyone set it up before?
[05:35] <rausb0> intelikey: root=/dev/sda is most unusual? why didn't you partition your scsi disk?
[05:35] <erUSUL> !samba > darren
[05:35] <thinh> not sure i have it in mine too
[05:35] <AaronMT> Any bash script gurus online? Im wondering how I can output something between certain rows on a terminal (tput)
[05:35] <chalmer> gosh then i dont know what else to do
[05:35] <salty> HollywoodCode>I use file-roller
[05:35] <Dougie> shatrat: you around?
[05:35] <thinh> i have copy that section
[05:35] <ikonia> thinh: then add it
[05:35] <Andeh> I installed wine and my programs cant acces files and dlls so they wont start
[05:35] <thinh> but there is nowhere to tell what port to use
[05:35] <ikonia> Andeh: I told you where the wine support is
[05:35] <BENN92647> cosmodad- I have ubuntu on my SATA drive and that is fine-only other things arre my CD and my DVD ROM drives that ubuntu wont mount
[05:35] <darren> I had a feeling this was gonna be complex
[05:35] <ikonia> darren: its not
[05:35] <darren> i'm a complete linux noob
[05:35] <ace86> hi i am a beginner and wanted some help to install ubuntu
[05:35] <intelikey> rausb0 yeah it was a real trick to install there.   and getting grub installed wasn't easy.
[05:35] <thinh> will xorg know automatically which one to look for?
[05:36] <ikonia> darren: then do some reading
[05:36] <cosmodad> rausb0: sda is probably SATA
[05:36] <HollywoodCode> ark wont do it
[05:36] <HollywoodCode> where file-roller
[05:36] <Andeh> ikonia: Theres nobody in the rooms. the 5 people in #wine arent talking and im the only one in #wine-hq!!!
[05:36] <darren> ok
[05:36] <ikonia> Andeh: try winehq
[05:36] <Andeh> ok
[05:36] <shatrat> Dougie, im around
[05:36] <rausb0> cosmodad: anyway, it is used without partitioning and thats not reasonable
[05:36] <HollywoodCode> why is it so hard to decompress a file in linux?
[05:36] <cosmodad> intelikey: shouldn't it be (hd0,2) for that partition which is on hdc?
[05:36] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: its easy
[05:36] <BENN92647> cosmodad this is the error code i get:
[05:36] <Andeh> Thanks it worked
[05:36] <chalmer> help w/ internet ? anyone !!
[05:36] <shatrat> HollywoodCode, how hard is it to right click and Extract Here?
[05:36] <rausb0> intelikey: did you compile the kernel yourself?
[05:36] <thinh> i copy and paste that and change the second section to refrect my external monitor refresh rate but there is no where i specify what port it is on
[05:36] <HollywoodCode> it doesnt work
[05:37] <LordLimecat> andeh
[05:37] <intelikey> cosmodad no
[05:37] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: is this the rar file
[05:37] <salty> HollywoodCode>you can also 'apt-get' rar and then type 'man rar' for instructions
[05:37] <cosmodad> BENN92647: so that's why I asked you to try at least 2 different discs to see if it's not an issue with the media
[05:37] <BENN92647> cosmodad-mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[05:37] <BENN92647>        missing codepage or other error
[05:37] <BENN92647>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:37] <BENN92647>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:37] <LordLimecat> you still there?
[05:37] <KlasRudian> HollywoodCode installed unrar for starters??
[05:37] <intelikey> raush0 no
[05:37] <BENN92647> sorry
[05:37] <Dougie> hmm
[05:37] <BENN92647> for that all
[05:37] <chalmer> help w/ internet ? anyone !!
[05:37] <Dougie> shatrat: you were trying to help me with my printer yesterday right? lol
[05:37] <ikonia> chalmer the interenet is working fine
[05:37] <cosmodad> intelikey: why no?
[05:37] <cosmodad> intelikey: it doesn't seem to be corresponding
[05:37] <rausb0> intelikey: it seems like the initrd/initramfs wasnt correctly created
[05:38] <steveire> Hi. I have two laptops I'd like to share folders between. I have installed smbclient. What's next?
[05:38] <intelikey> cosmodad there is no hd0,2
[05:38] <steveire> Oh, the other one is winXP
[05:38] <ikonia> steveire: set up a share
[05:38] <salty> HollywoodCode> "apt-get rar unrar
[05:38] <bullgard4> My kernel has a module ipw2200. When I have set the BIOS to 'wireless=laststate' and have come from Windows with wireless on, sudo lshw will show "configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ipw2200 driverversion=1.2.0kmprq firmware=ABG:9.0.2.6 (Mar 22 2005) latency=32 link=no maxlatency=24 mingnt=3 multicast=yes wireless=unassociated." iwconfig will show: "eth1 unassociated  ESSID:"". Mode:Managed  Channel=0  Access Point: Not-Associated." The Wi
[05:38] <steveire> ikonia: on the windows one?
[05:38] <cosmodad> intelikey: then why you got hdc?
[05:38] <chalmer> ikionia: no its not
[05:38] <shatrat> Dougie, not me, but check linuxprinting.org
[05:38] <intelikey> rushdy but it works perfectly when lilo loads it...
[05:38] <ikonia> steveire: on which ever one you want to share
[05:38] <phreakazoid> intelikey: where did it failed?
[05:38] <ikonia> chalmer: it is - your chatting on it
[05:38] <intelikey> phreakazoid timed out waiting for root fs
[05:39] <LordLimecat> andeh: are you still here?
[05:39] <BENN92647> cosmodad- wrong fs type,bad option, bad superblock on dev/hdc, missing code page or other error in some cases useful info found in syslog
[05:39] <HollywoodCode> salty if i have a dir called downloads on my desktop, and the file is beer.rar, how would i unrar it from the console with unrar?
[05:39] <rausb0> intelikey: then i dont know. grub should behave just the same.
[05:39] <Dougie> shatrat: hmm ok its a wireless printer thats what i'm having trouble with.. the printer has built in wireless and connects to my access point and i'm not sure how to tell linux to acces it... but let me look on that site
[05:39] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: man unrar
[05:39] <intelikey> cosmodad read the configs you will see
[05:39] <cosmodad> BENN92647: yeah I read that... did you try *a different disc*?
[05:39] <BENN92647> cosmodad- i dont know what that means
[05:39] <chalmer> ikonia: it works threw my ethernet card but i need help to get it to work n my wireless card
[05:39] <KlasRudian> use Ark HollywoodCode
[05:39] <cosmodad> BENN92647: it can mean a lot
[05:39] <salty> unrar  <command> [-<switch 1> -<switch N>]  archive [files...]  [path...] 
[05:39] <intelikey> rausb0 i agree  but for some reason it doesn't
[05:39] <ikonia> chalmer: right so your question is "I need help getting my wirless card working"
[05:40] <thinh> do i just add another screen layout after what current there?
[05:40] <chalmer> ikonia: yes sorry
[05:40] <darren> why is this so hard!
[05:40] <HollywoodCode> ark doesn't support .rar
[05:40] <ikonia> thinh: join #xorg or read docs on x.org
[05:40] <ikonia> darren: its not
[05:40] <nexousNET> How can I get rid of the ubuntu login, and just have a command prompt, once I enter my credentials, it will bring me to the desktop
[05:40] <ikonia> darren: stop complaining - it adds no value
[05:40] <ikonia> nexousNET: disable X(gdm)
[05:41] <chalmer> "I need help getting my wirless card working"
[05:41] <erUSUL> !wifi > chalmer
[05:41] <ikonia> chalmer: is it supported under linux ?
[05:41] <shatrat> HollywoodCode, rar is proprietary, if you want to open it the first thing is to install unrar.  then you can extract with "unrar e archive.rar" or I believe you will be able to use Ark after doing that
[05:41] <intelikey> rausb0 if it was a simple misaddress or something i could see it.  but i don't have to change anything just run three commands that the scripts should naturally do...
[05:41] <nexousNET> ikonia: How do I do that?
[05:41] <BENN92647> cosmodad-there is a disk in the DVD ROM its not a DVD though and it shows the contents on my desktop
[05:41] <Dougie> chalmer: what card do you have?
[05:41] <darren> ikonia, was that a slap on the wrist remark ?
[05:41] <ikonia> nexousNET: look at the init scripts
[05:41] <ikonia> darren: no
[05:41] <darren> good
[05:41] <cosmodad> BENN92647: so it's working
[05:41] <ikonia> darren: just a fact, complaining won't help
[05:41] <nexousNET> ikonia: Sorry, I'm a n00b. Don't have a clue where those are.
[05:41] <darren> I was moaning
[05:41] <chalmer> linksys 54G router
[05:42] <eilker> how can i have last account in amarok ??
[05:42] <ikonia> nexousNET: /etc/init.d and /etc/inittab
[05:42] <HollywoodCode> how do i open console from the dir where the .rar is located?
[05:42] <nexousNET> okay.
[05:42] <Dougie> is your wireless network adapter working though?
[05:42] <intelikey> rausb0 is there a way to tell the kernel or the initrd to load the aic7xxx module ?
[05:42] <eilker> how can i have last *fm account in amarok ??
[05:42] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: open a console and cd into it
[05:42] <ace86> hi i had two hdd on my pc. primary installed with win98, secondary installed with winxp. the problem now is i wan ubuntu on the secondary harddisk (more space) but i wanted a triple boot menu after install ubuntu. how i do that?
[05:42] <cosmodad> BENN92647: looks like the disk you had in your drive before wasn't working I assume?
cd ~/downloads
[05:42] <arooni> hey folks whats up with chasetoys@LilArooni:~$ alias sshrimu=ssh root@72.123.456.789  ; terminal says: bash: alias: root@72.1234.456.778: not found
[05:42] <erUSUL> nexousNET: 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[05:42] <rausb0> intelikey: i dont know the internal structure of ubuntus initrd
[05:42] <shatrat> HollywoodCode, just open a terminal and use "cd /path/to/the/directory" to go there, or "unrar e /path/to/the/file/in/question.rar"
unrar -ev beer.rar
[05:42] <BENN92647> cosmodad-OMG! i AM AN IDIOT, lol I had the DVD in the CD ROM...Sorry to have taken up your time thanks
[05:43] <cosmodad> arooni: quota the part after = and at the end as well
[05:43] <rausb0> intelikey: but i guess there is a file with a list of modules to be loaded in there
[05:43] <cosmodad> BENN92647: ;)
[05:43] <AaronMT> Any bash script gurus online? Im wondering how I can output something between certain rows on a terminal (tput)
[05:43] <phreakazoid> intelikey: wow no idea, but here something from the forum, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164458
[05:43] <chalmer> dougie:"Blitzz " Super G Wireless PCI Adapter card Model: BWI 715
[05:43] <ikonia> AaronMT: I told you bash support is in #bash
[05:43] <cosmodad> AaronMT: people told you before to go to #bash
[05:43] <intelikey> fusheh i may have to rebuild it by hand...
[05:43] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, atleast i got it running now with the new kernel. But it wont let me load the byrel windows manager, as soon as i do it will come with the blue error screen, somethin about it cant load the nvidea something
[05:43] <erUSUL> AaronMT:  output something between certain rows ? explain this
[05:43] <HollywoodCode> how do i cd into it, if its on my desktop?
[05:43] <Dougie> chalmer: is it installed and do you have the network icon in the upper right hand corner?
[05:43] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: are you listening ?//
[05:43] <HollywoodCode> yes
[05:43] <erUSUL> HollywoodCode: cd ~/Desktop/
[05:44] <HollywoodCode> do i cd desktop?
[05:44] <james296> is it at all possible to hide offline friends in GyachE? I dunno where else to ask this sorry
[05:44] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: why can you not read/grasp the commands people have told you 5 times
[05:44] <JoaoJoao> I'm looking for a Wireless NIC PCI card that works perfectly with Linux/Ubuntu, what do you guys recommend?
[05:44] <salty> cd ~/Desktop/fileyouextracted
[05:44] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: is nvidia loaded? what's the ouptut of "lsmod|grep -i nvidia"?
[05:44] <ace86> if anyone could help: i had the cd, but kinda afraid to click install might delete my data
[05:44] <salty> cd ~/Desktop
[05:44] <chalmer> Dougie: yes / & no
[05:44] <ace86> hi i had two hdd on my pc. primary installed with win98, secondary installed with winxp. the problem now is i wan ubuntu on the secondary harddisk (more space) but i wanted a triple boot menu after install ubuntu. how i do that?
[05:44] <rausb0> ikonia: people are just too dumb to read...
[05:44] <cosmodad> JoaoJoao: look for stuff using the madiwfi driver
[05:44] <Poul^Laptop> hmm, nothing cosmodad
[05:44] <mindchild> So I have installed (so it seems) the linux-686 kernel... only, looking at the properties in synaptic, it only installed crap into /usr/share/doc, and there is no other kernel in /boot. Am I missing something?
[05:44] <Dougie> chalmer: what do you mean and no?
[05:44] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: so it's not loaded
[05:45] <shadowhywind> is there a way to disable the external monitor port?
[05:45] <AaronMT> erUSUL I need to register a nickname hold on
[05:45] <HollywoodCode> ikonia it worked
[05:45] <Dougie> chalmer: you don't see the icon?
[05:45] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: what does "modprobe nvidia" give you?
[05:45] <ikonia> mindchild: if ther is no kernel in /boot - how does your box boot
[05:45] <tbuss> where can i find info on installing ubuntu on external hdd connected to a already partioned windows machine
[05:45] <Varsendaggr> is fiesty released?
[05:45] <intelikey> phreakazoid ok. but i don't use lvm so that's not the issue.
[05:45] <ikonia> no
[05:45] <JoaoJoao> my rtl8187 card kernel-panics  with Feisty for example
[05:45] <chalmer> Dougie: its installed but there is not a icon
[05:45] <shatrat> JoaoJoao, I believe to rtl2500 is one that works well, but it is hard to tell what card is using what chipset because a lot of manufacturers make one model of card with a completely different chipset in different revisions.  You should probably hit the forums.
[05:45] <HollywoodCode> now how do i get into the folder i made called downloads on the desktop after im cd into desktop?
[05:45] <Dougie> ok go to system
[05:45] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad - Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:45] <BENN92647> its amazing the clearity of a DVD as apposed to running it through window is outstanding-I wonder why more home theatre media computers don't run linux
[05:45] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: read the docs on ubuntu.com
[05:45] <Dougie> chalmer: go to system admin and networking
[05:45] <LjL> HollywoodCode: maybe, just maybe, "cd downloads"
[05:45] <shatrat> HollywoodCode, cd downloads
[05:45] <rausb0> shatrat: note, rt (ralink) is not rtl (realtek)
[05:45] <JoaoJoao> I want something that doesn't make me deawl with the CLI all the time (as I had to do with the God-awful dwl-520+)
[05:45] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: also man "cd" - if its at that basic level you'll struggle to progress through any linux distro wihtout reading the basiscs
[05:46] <mindchild> ikonia: It has the original 386 vanilla kernel. hence "no other kernel"
[05:46] <shatrat> rausb0, what harm can one little l do
[05:46] <ikonia> mindchild: so whats the problem ?
[05:46] <Thug-N-Me> does anyone know how to browse a nokia phone in linux ?
[05:46] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: grep -i nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:46] <Dougie> chalmer: there should be a couple connections in the list like wired connection and wireless connection
[05:46] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: gnoki
[05:46] <rausb0> shatrat: that little l means a totally different chipset
[05:46] <LjL> ikonia: make that "help cd"
[05:46] <intelikey> anyone else    http://pastebin.ca/398875   ?
[05:46] <chalmer> Douggie: yes
[05:46] <ikonia> LjL: oooh really, I never use "help" just man
[05:46] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad -         Identifier      "nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] "
[05:46] <Poul^Laptop>         Device          "nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] "
[05:46] <LjL> ikonia: yeah but "man" has no pages for bash built-ins
[05:46] <salty> ikonia is right... you have to read the 'how-to's' to understand
[05:47] <cosmodad> JoaoJoao: I just had to buy a wifi PCI card myself and most tp-link cards are good: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility#TP-LINK
[05:47] <ikonia> LjL: ahhhhhhh
[05:47] <Dougie> chalmer: you can adjust your wireless settings there. If your router has wep encryption you will have to put the wepkey in there it's usually a HEX format and just put in the ssid of your router which if you didn't change it from default would be linksys
[05:47] <ikonia> LjL: I've never had to tell anyone to man cd, so I didn't think
[05:47] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: doesn't seem to be loaded
[05:47] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia no packages with that name (google says)
[05:47] <iulian_> hi, can someone tell me what can I do to get back the text document if I prezz ctrl-z in pico?
[05:47] <Dougie> chalmer: if you do all that it should connect automatically unless something is not installed right :)
[05:47] <mindchild> ikonia: I "grabbed" the linux-686 kernel via synaptic... but it doesnt seem to have installed ANYTHING but crap under /usr/share/doc/linux-686
[05:47] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad - any sugestions to solve it?
[05:47] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: there is and its in the ubuntu repo
[05:47] <jrib> iulian_: fg, google for "bash job control"
[05:47] <ikonia> mindchild: what ubuntu version
[05:47] <intelikey> iulian_ thpe fg
[05:48] <intelikey> type fg
[05:48] <mindchild> 6.10
[05:48] <BENN92647> i'm going but in a final note to all noobs-stick with LINUX ubuntu 6.10 EDGY is by far the easiest (stay far away from AMD 64, I had it it was a hassle) it takes some tweaking and a little bit of work but it's worth it
[05:48] <iulian_> intelikey, thanks
[05:48] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia what repo ? i have all repos enabled and there is no such gnoki
[05:48] <ikonia> mindchild: there is no i686, i586, amd, kernels any more - just generic
[05:48] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the section with the nvidia stuff and tell me what argument is given to "driver"
[05:48] <erUSUL> ubotu tell mindchild about generic | mindchild see priv msg from ubotu
[05:48] <tbuss> if i use live cd to install can i choose to install to external hdd without affecting windows partition?
[05:48] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: gnokii
[05:48] <nexousNET> Hi, how do I go about adding the login again, rather than '  sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove  '
[05:49] <ikonia> nexousNET: remove will remove - not add
[05:49] <mindchild> what a waste
[05:49] <intelikey> can anyone tell me why if lilo loads the kernel it boots but if grub loads it it hangs waiting for root fs ?     http://pastebin.ca/398875
[05:49] <erUSUL> nexousNET: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults'
[05:49] <nexousNET> ikonia: I know, I want to add it again.
[05:49] <salty> brb... gotta make some coffee
[05:49] <nexousNET> erUSUL: thanks
[05:49] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad = driver is set to "nv"  But that what i give it as argument when i ran the setup i think
[05:49] <erUSUL> nexousNET: man update-rc.d the next time ;)
[05:49] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: nv is the open source driver most likely incompatible to your card
[05:49] <rausb0> intelikey: so why dont you use lilo for the time being?
[05:50] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: you probably need to supply "nvidia"
[05:50] <nexousNET> erUSUL: I just run 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults' and then I get > i don't have to do anything else?
[05:50] <chalmer> Dougie: when i click SSID it showed tha name of the network, then i entered tha key, and then i deactivated the ethernet card to make sure the wireless card was working but there's nothing
[05:50] <intelikey> rausb0 i do.  but that doesn't get it fixed.
[05:50] <eilker> anyone using last fm in amarok ?
[05:50] <rausb0> intelikey: i see
[05:50] <bayziders> I have a windows xp pro disk in my cd drive and i have the .vmx for it but it still wont load
[05:50] <bayziders> in vmware player
[05:50] <bayziders> what is wrong
[05:50] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia i should be able to mount it manually isnt it ?
[05:51] <intelikey> rausb0 i only got grub installed a little while ago.
[05:51] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: don't know, not used it for a while
[05:51] <erUSUL> nexousNET: you typed something wrong...
[05:51] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad - ye i ran the install script again, and checked the file. It have updatet it to nvidia now
[05:51] <erUSUL> nexousNET: try again
[05:51] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia is is recong. lsusb Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0421:0487 Nokia Mobile Phones
[05:51] <nexousNET> 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults'
[05:51] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, but when i reload the grafic or reboot it wont load the grafics
[05:51] <intelikey> rausb0 had to make the boot partition.   didn't have any partitions.  and you can't install grub without a partition.
[05:51] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: does it say "nvidia" in your xorg.org now?
[05:51] <Dougie> chalmer: are you connected directly to your router right now? can you check the settings to see if you have a hex or ascii wep key also you may need to restart...i found that somtimes it didn't want to update my wireless settings until i restarted
[05:51] <chalmer> Dougie: does the "kay type" need to b plain (ASCII) or (HEXADEC)  ?
[05:51] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad ye
[05:52] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: try "modprobe nvidia" now
[05:52] <Dougie> chalmer: its usually HEXADEC
[05:52] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: sudo modprobe nvidia
[05:52] <Dougie> chalmer: but you can change it on your router
[05:52] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: sry
[05:52] <nexousNET> erUSUL: I type 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults' and then it comes up in a new line ' > '
[05:52] <chalmer> Dougie: yes threw tha ethernet card
[05:52] <rausb0> intelikey: and why didnt you partition /dev/sda in the first place?
[05:52] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad - FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[05:52] <Dougie> chalmer: if that doesn't work then try disableing the wep encryption and see if you can get it connected that way
[05:53] <intelikey> rausb0 i don't want partitions
[05:53] <tbuss> going to install with live cd do i choose create default setup if i want to install to external hdd to use windows and xp
[05:53] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: huh?
[05:53] <Dougie> chalmer: if not then i'm not sure :)
[05:53] <rausb0> intelikey: why is that?
[05:53] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: this looks strange
[05:53] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad - thats what i got
[05:53] <killermach> does anyone do any multilanguage writing, I'm new to ubuntu and need to write docs in openoffice in english and spanish, any pointers?
[05:53] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: check your dmesg.  it may have tainted the kernel
[05:53] <erUSUL> nexousNET: that's becouse bash thinks you hasn't ended the comand so you obviusly misstyped something... do not put the '
[05:53] <chalmer> Dougie ok brb
[05:53] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: is that all?
[05:53] <eilker> anyone using last fm in amarok ?
[05:53] <intelikey> rausb0 cause i'm wierd that way.
[05:53] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia how do i find the assigned device for Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0421:0487 Nokia Mobile Phones  any idea ?>
[05:53] <rausb0> intelikey: partitions are good to organise your hard disk
[05:53] <shatrat> killermach, theres a link to information about helping with documentation at ubuntu.com
[05:53] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: nope
[05:53] <nexousNET> erUSUL: sorry didnt see that.
[05:53] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, yes its all. But guess it havent "start" using the new settings before i do the alt-ctrl-backspace
[05:54] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: not used it for a long time. Try the docs
[05:54] <rausb0> intelikey: well, if you insist in the weirdness, you'll probably have to stick to lilo
[05:54] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: that's for suer
[05:54] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - huh?
[05:54] <nexousNET> How do I restart it now, because Shutdown, and restart are gone from my quit
[05:54] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia im not talking about the package gnokii
[05:54] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: ok
[05:54] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: type "dmesg | grep nvidia"
[05:54] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad - but when i do that, it will give me the error and i  only have the comman line to wrork from
[05:54] <intelikey> rausb0 we'll see.   and thanks for having a look see at my paste.
[05:54] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: check the udev rules
[05:54] <shatrat> nexousNET, you could right click the panel and use Add to panel to add a shut down button
[05:54] <neo_> I have ar eal quick question guys....what is the shortcut key for the launcher? I mean, if I wanted to launch xchat for example...I remember there used to be a shortcut key that would give me a dialog where I'd type "xchat" and it would open up. Do you guys know what this might be?
[05:55] <rausb0> intelikey: no problem
[05:55] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - no output
[05:55] <Varsendaggr> how do i easily upgrade to edgy
[05:55] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: you might find more in /var/log/xorg*
[05:55] <andy101> neo_ alt-F2
[05:55] <Varsendaggr> from dapper
[05:55] <erUSUL> neo_: alt + f2
[05:55] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: what about "dmesg | tail" ?
[05:55] <nexousNET> shatrat: I already have my quite icon on my panel, but since I removed the gdm before those options aren't there.
[05:55] <neo_> Thanks guys, that was driving me crazy.
[05:55] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - nothing
[05:55] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: nothing at all or nothing related to nvidia?
[05:56] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia check them for what man ? just search for nokia or how ? :) i wish i know what the " dev/what " for the usb nokia connection so i can mount it manually
[05:56] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight nothing at all
[05:56] <shatrat> Poul^Laptop, the actual file address is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:56] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: umm, okay...i suppose just try 'dmesg', does it do anything?
[05:56] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: look in udev rules for nokia
[05:57] <FOAD> Hey.
[05:57] <chalmer> Dougie: will i need to do a restart after each change (HEX) and disabeling tha wep key?
[05:57] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: try this too: find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ -iname "*nvidia*"
[05:57] <FOAD> I just got a new external HD and it shows up on the Desktop fine, as "LACIE".  How do I change the name?
[05:57] <darren> well I tried the tips to mount my windows PC but I get an error after i try he mount -a command
[05:57] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: and see if it finds any nvidia kernel driver...
[05:57] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - give alot of outputs
[05:57] <darren> it says couldn't close namecache on top of gencache
[05:57] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia seems like its Disk /dev/sdb: 2007 MB, 2007368192 bytes 2 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1019 cylinders nits = cylinders of 3844 * 512 = 1968128 bytes
[05:57] <erUSUL> Thug-N-Me: some mobile phones get identified as usb modems and get a /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyACM0 or something like that. do a 'sudo tail -f /var/log/messages' and unplugg/plugg the mobile and see what the msgs are
[05:58] <xtknight> cosmodad: in his case the kernel module was loaded (it exists), but the install function within the module did not succeed.
[05:58] <chalmer> Dougie: will i need to do a restart after each change (HEX) and disabeling tha wep key?
[05:58] <cosmodad> xtknight: ok
[05:58] <Thug-N-Me> erUSUL ok
[05:58] <xtknight> i had the problem the other day, it generally means you didn't compile against the right kernel sources
[05:58] <xtknight> though in my case it was because i had a new kernel with GPL/legal issues
[05:58] <Dash1> I've just installed 6.10, but I'm unable to logon successfully.  I put in my auth details and I get that funny sound (which sounds like it's cut short...), the loading box gets to Nautilis and then... nothing.  I have a desktop, a mouse, but nothing else.  Any suggestions?  The Live CD worked fine.
[05:59] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad - could not get it to work the last thing there
[05:59] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad - no such fle....
[05:59] <Dougie> chalmer: after you get the settings that you think are right if they arent working try restarting
[05:59] <bayziders> !vmware
[05:59] <Thug-N-Me> erUSUL Mar 17 16:59:12 thug kernel: [17182096.948000]  cdc_acm 3-1:1.8: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[05:59] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:59] <Thug-N-Me> #
[05:59] <chalmer> Dougie: ok
[06:00] <FOAD> Anyone?
[06:00] <darren> any ideas?
[06:00] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: it shouldn't be an issue but I'd like to make sure: type "find" and see if it outputs something (list of files)
[06:00] <erUSUL> Thug-N-Me: so it seems the phone is acting as a modem when you plug it...
[06:00] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad yes alot
[06:01] <Thug-N-Me> erUSUL which is no good. so this way i wont be able to mount it will i?
[06:01] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: and you say this: find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ -iname "*nvidia*"          <-- gives you "file not found"
[06:01] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: ?
[06:01] <FOAD> Bueller?
[06:02] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad now it do
[06:02] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad must have been typo before
[06:02] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: i recommend posting the whole output of 'dmesg' on !pastebin
[06:02] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad /lib/modules/2.6.20-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
[06:02] <Poul^Laptop> /lib/modules/2.6.20-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[06:02] <Poul^Laptop> /lib/modules/2.6.20-11-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
[06:02] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: ok... do what xtknight recommended please
[06:02] <darren> the drive seems to have mounted but the contents are letters of the alphabet
[06:02] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: um, do you have Feisty ?
[06:02] <Poul^Laptop> yes
[06:02] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight yes
[06:03] <Poul^Laptop> !pastebin
[06:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:03] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: ok well still do the dmesg thing.  feisty is experimental so i wouldn't be surprised if there were problems.  generally the channel for Feisty problems is at #ubuntu+1   i'll see what i can do though after you post dmesg
[06:03] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad xtknight - not sure what you mean with !pastebin
[06:03] <cosmodad> !pastebin | Poul^Laptop
[06:03] <ubotu> Poul^Laptop: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:04] <xtknight> with the 2.6.20 kernel and nvidia i believe there are problems because the new kernel exports symbols as GPL-only, which the nvidia module does not expect.  i had to recompile mine and export the symbols normally again to get the nvidia kernel module's install to succeed
[06:04] <erUSUL> Thug-N-Me: i do not know... maybe some config in the phone itself can change the way it identifys itslef to the usb bus?
[06:04] <dignick> hi everybody, quick question - configure just failed and told me to look in config.log.  where is config.log?
[06:04] <erUSUL> Thug-N-Me: try googling around...
[06:04] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, is the newest kernel not .21?
[06:04] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: we don't want you to clutter the channel with tons of dmesg output lines so go that URL, enter the output there and just return the URL to it
[06:04] <liquiddoom> Do directories in /tmp get deleted on boot?
[06:04] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: newest kernel is 2.6.20.3.
[06:05] <Poul^Laptop> cosmodad, well !pastebin gave me nothing. its just a url for a page where i can paste it right?
[06:05] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: do you understand how to use pastebin?
[06:05] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: right
[06:05] <Poul^Laptop> no i dont understand how to use it :PP
[06:05] <xtknight> nvidia said a new driver would fix the problem but for now you must recompile the kernel to get current nvidia drivers to install.
[06:05] <Poul^Laptop> but give me a sec
[06:05] <Dashers> Could anybody help me with troubleshooting bootup?  I'm unable to get very far past logon.
[06:05] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: ok all you have to do is paste the output of 'dmesg' into the text box on pastebin
[06:06] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: i should ask, do you really want to use Feisty?  it doesn't sound like it's really for you
[06:06] <Poul^Laptop> cant copy the hole output of dmesg
[06:06] <erUSUL> Thug-N-Me: http://www.gnokii.org/
[06:06] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, well we gotta learn right :)
[06:06] <foormea> ahey
[06:07] <tecta> like 20 diff progs say they cant be installled because im using i386, and everytime i open synaptic i need to reload my list
[06:07] <fatima> how can i change the root password without knowing it
[06:07] <foormea> anyone has an idea why grub won't load my system into runlevel 3 when i add a 3 at the end of the kernel line in grub?
[06:07] <spawn311> rausb: if windows is making braindead proxy dhcp request -- am I SOL under ubunutu?
[06:07] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: yeah imo it's bad to start on an experimental OS though :).  eh whatever, well increase your terminal scrollback and copy the whole dmesg
[06:07] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight. i did not have problems with the latest kernel, just when it updatet i have had problems with beryl
[06:07] <dignick> hi everybody, quick question - configure just failed and told me to look in config.log.  where is config.log?
[06:08] <xtknight> dignick: cat ./config.log
[06:08] <yet_another_noob> hi all... a noob question! ...how do I easily installed mozilla seamonkey? (i use badger)
[06:08] <cosmodad> dignick: probably in the same directory where you did configure from
[06:08] <jjmoncar> hi
[06:08] <assasukasse> does anyone know if clamav packages for debian works in ubuntu?
[06:08] <xtknight> !clamav | assasukasse
[06:08] <ubotu> assasukasse: clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[06:08] <tecta> something is messed up with ubuntu
[06:08] <N3WB> How to i run a .jar file with Ubuntu?
[06:08] <xtknight> assasukasse: is there a reason you're not using the clamav ubuntu package?
[06:08] <N3WB> gji file?
[06:09] <cosmodad> N3WB: with java
[06:09] <illusina> How can I copy 150gb from drive to drive without my entire system becoming unusable (laggy)?
[06:09] <assasukasse> xtknight: i tought debian was more up to date
[06:09] <xtknight> N3WB: `java -jar asdf.jar ` i <think>
[06:09] <N3WB> oh ok :P
[06:09] <Dashers> Could anybody help me with troubleshooting bootup?  I'm unable to get very far past logon.
[06:09] <xtknight> assasukasse: depends.  Sarge isn't but sid or etch maybe
[06:09] <fatima> i accidentally change my password and i couldnt log in back and i tried to change my password with another account but the root password changed
[06:09] <N3WB> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from file.jar
[06:09] <lauren__> can anyone help with a wireless setup issue (broadcom 4306) ?
[06:09] <dignick> thanks. found it
[06:09] <cosmodad> N3WB: I agree use: java -jar <jarfile>
[06:10] <Poul^Laptop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10781/  cosmodad
[06:10] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight
[06:10] <assasukasse> xtknight: what about the gui, which one do u use
[06:10] <yet_another_noob> ...could anybody point me in the right direction for installing mozilla seamonkey? (i use badger)
[06:10] <xtknight> assasukasse: i dont use an antivirus personally
[06:10] <wsjunior> is there any way to disable the beagle ui from starting at system startup? i would like to do this because i use kde and i would like to use beagle here. so i installed kerry but the ugly gtk ui for beagle is also started at system startup, is there any way to prevent this?
[06:10] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: odd, i don't see anything about the nvidia module in there
[06:11] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: did you try the driver off nvidia.com?
[06:11] <iulian_> hi, I have Ubuntu 6.10 Server and LAMP installed by default. PHP versione delivered with Ubuntu distro is 5.1.6. How can I install last version of PHP without losing current configuration
[06:11] <Poul^Laptop> nope
[06:11] <iulian_> ?
[06:11] <Poul^Laptop> i just ran a script, 2sec
[06:11] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: well i didn't see nvidia.ko in your /lib/modules...
[06:11] <Poul^Laptop> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia
[06:11] <Poul^Laptop> that one
[06:11] <Dashers> iulian_: you should just be able to backup your php.ini
[06:11] <bas> iulian_: you might try and search for a 'backport'
[06:11] <CheshireViking> is there a way in kopete to show whether i'm online/away/busy etc in the kopete contact list and also to show whether contacts are similarly online/away rather than having the small icon showing that info?
[06:11] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: where did you get that output from?
[06:11] <Poul^Laptop> dmesg
[06:12] <cosmodad> Poul^Laptop: hmm...
[06:12] <Dashers> I've just installed 6.10, but I'm unable to logon successfully.  I put in my auth details and I get that funny sound (which sounds like it's cut short...), the loading box gets to Nautilis and then... nothing.  I have a desktop, a mouse, but nothing else.  Any suggestions?  The Live CD worked fine.
[06:12] <iulian_> bas, what do you mean by searching for a 'backport'?
[06:12] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, i ran the script listet  at 2:  and it worked on the last kernel
[06:13] <Poul^Laptop> havent installed any nvidia drivers at any point
[06:13] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: i dont recommend using that.  try the driver off www.nvidia.com
[06:13] <Poul^Laptop> easy to install?
[06:13] <Factory> Poul^Laptop, Or envy always works.
[06:13] <Factory> !envy | Pollywog
[06:13] <ubotu> Pollywog: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[06:13] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: in my opinion ,yes
[06:13] <Factory> er
[06:13] <Factory> !envy | Poul^Laptop
[06:13] <ubotu> Poul^Laptop: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[06:13] <Factory> I appologize, pollywog =p
[06:15] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - i am gonna need abit help on that i think. Should i just try with taht envy stuff, or is it as i remember, not good to use with fiesty
[06:16] <NetLarIrvine> What is the latest version, Edgy?
[06:16] <liquiddoom> Hey, does sudo work in a shellscript?
[06:16] <liquiddoom> Or do I have to run the script with sudo
[06:16] <Poul^Laptop> factory- sure it works properly with fiesty
[06:16] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: umm i don't know.. like i said, Feisty is really a can of worms, it's alpha.  the final will be released in like a month.  i just don't think it's a good idea to use right now.  but whatever, goto www.nvidia.com and download the latest linux drivers
[06:17] <Dougie> shatrat: this is what i'm having trouble with finding my URI..... it's not in the CUPS list they dont have canon listed...
[06:17] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, well i dont know for sure, just a friend who said it was as close to release that it would not matter much anyway
[06:17] <Corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[06:17] <Poul^Laptop> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html  xtknight
[06:17] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: ehh that's bad advice.  my Feisty install just broke, actually.
[06:18] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight well, but more trobble also mean you learn more :)I
[06:18] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - i am not sure which i should dl from the link i just posted
[06:18] <Pollywog> what is a good vnc client for XP?
[06:19] <liquiddoom> Pollywog: RealVNC's client isn't bad
[06:19] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: ia32 if you have the i386 version of ubuntu.  amd64 if you have the amd64 version
[06:19] <bas> iulian_: a backport is a 'newer' version of a package on an older version of ubuntu
[06:19] <Pollywog> liquiddoom: ty
[06:19] <theneb> Pollywog: make sure you're using vnc over ssh
[06:19] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight ok
[06:19] <baxter_kylie> Help, please. I can't get mysql to start! :-p
[06:19] <Pollywog> theneb: oh yes of course, that is how I do it
[06:19] <theneb> Pollywog: yay :D
[06:19] <smacnay> cosmodad: thanks, lvm is something I will look into.
[06:20] <theneb> Pollywog: Though I'd also point out http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ to you
[06:20] <cosmodad> smacnay: np
[06:20] <Pollywog> theneb: ty
[06:20] <lauren__> using dapper, can i ve to compile it from source?easily install 2.6.19 kernel, or do i ha
[06:21] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - Verifying archive integrity... Error in check sums 3174892817 778851319
[06:21] <Poul^Laptop>    HHE
[06:21] <Poul^Laptop> :P
[06:21] <lauren__> using dapper, can i easily install 2.6.19 kernel or do i have to compile it?
[06:21] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: where did it say that?
[06:21] <Poul^Laptop> "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run"  xtknight
[06:21] <erUSUL> lauren__: you will have to compile it
[06:21] <xtknight> lauren__: you have to compile it unless you can find a 2.6.19 kernel package for Dapper
[06:22] <lauren__> thanks
[06:22] <xtknight> lauren__: i had some here that you might try actually http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326343
[06:22] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, just have to try redl it i think
[06:22] <Necromaniac> hi there i have a question... is there an option to level the playback volume in amarok?
[06:22] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: probably..
[06:22] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, did not see it was downloading so slow, so might not have been done :PP
[06:23] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, so if thise solve my problems, i will ahve to do it each time the kernel is updated right?
[06:23] <Poul^Laptop> this
[06:23] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: yup
[06:24] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[06:24] <Poul^Laptop>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[06:24] <Poul^Laptop>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[06:24] <Poul^Laptop>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[06:24] <Rkyraccoon55> !ati
[06:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:24] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, so i will reboot and try see if this help. dropping in later to tell if it do. thx so far
[06:24] <Poul^Laptop> and cosmodad also
[06:24] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: you don't want to run it just right away anyway.  you have to do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' which will kill your X session (the GUI you're on right now).  then you have to run "sudo sh asdf.run"
[06:25] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, well when ireboot the GUI wont load so not a problem :P
[06:25] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: really?
[06:25] <mfd> Is it wise to install fiesty fawn?
[06:25] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: why is that hh
[06:25] <xtknight> mfd: not really
[06:25] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, ye as i have updatet the xorg config file
[06:25] <chalmer> Dougie: u still here ?
[06:25] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: ah alright.
[06:25] <mfd> xtknight: Why not
[06:25] <Poul^Laptop> so when it try to load taht, where the problem startet with not ahving the nvidia installed properly
[06:26] <xtknight> mfd: it's still in alpha stage and very volatile (prone to breakage)
[06:26] <chalmer> Dougie: u still here ?
[06:26] <mfd> xtknight: I'm coming from a Gentoo background, I'm not sure I'd be fussed enough to download 6:10 when 7.04 comes out next month.
[06:26] <Necromaniac> hi there i have a question... is there an option to level the playback volume in amarok?
[06:26] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, cya lator :P hope its fast and load first time :PPP
[06:26] <mfd> I have slow net, so I'd have to update a whole lot of stuff.
[06:26] <xtknight> mfd: well my Feisty just broke so i may be biased
[06:27] <mfd> What happened?
[06:27] <crummie> hello, can someone help me? it's important :/
[06:27] <xtknight> mfd: it freezes at "mounting local filesystems.." i assume it's a feisty problem, ive never seen it anywhere else.  additionally, my Edgy still boots fine
[06:27] <Dougie> chalmer: yep
[06:27] <mfd> xtknight: :[
[06:27] <ramza3> is 300 worth watching
[06:28] <erUSUL> !offtopic > ramza3
[06:28] <xtknight> mfd: you can give it a shot though, chances are you wont have the same problem as I
[06:28] <chalmer> Dougie: ok i got my wireless card working. now how do i get it to show my other 3 comps on tha network?
[06:28] <xtknight> mfd: this is the only case i've heard of it, though probably not many people using Feisty have rebooted in awhile ;P
[06:28] <mfd> xtknight: Yes, but it would still have problems.
[06:28] <Dougie> lol
[06:28] <Dougie> chalmer: go to places
[06:28] <Dougie> chalmer: and then network
[06:28] <mfd> Where can I get the daily builds?
[06:29] <Dougie> chalmer: you should see windows network pop up double click that and then you should see the other computers
[06:29] <xtknight> mfd: http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/
[06:29] <mfd> xtknight: Thanks.
[06:29] <mfd> If it tries any funny business I'll make an attempt to patch it up.
[06:29] <xtknight> mfd: latest semi-stable herd 5 is available here http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/feisty/herd-5/
[06:29] <Rkyraccoon55> !ntfs-3g
[06:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:29] <sharp15> anyone here know of documentation I can read to give my ubuntu box a static ip on my network?
[06:30] <crummie> a friend of mine was using amsn and then after she installed some progs from synaptic it just started to freeze
[06:30] <crummie> and then she rebooted it and now she can't login
[06:30] <crummie> it doesn't enter anymore on gnome
[06:31] <TheVault> I finally gotten my Wifi to work using fw-cutter. How can I make fwcutter bootable so I won't loose my wireless configurations when I restart my computer or whatnot?
[06:31] <xtknight> mfd: there are like 50 updates a day in Feisty (at least sometimes)
[06:31] <TheVault> This is vital, as in the past I gotten it work but restart or shutdown computer and wireless did not work again
[06:31] <mfd> xtknight: Hmm..
[06:31] <xtknight> mfd: so when you say you have slow net i'm not sure it's a good idea...unless you just dont want to update it
[06:32] <mfd> xtknight: Nah, I can go to a friends house to make regular updates.
[06:32] <mfd> He has a 20Mbit connection, so I think I'd be good.
[06:32] <mfd> Is there an ftp link?
[06:33] <xtknight> mfd: not sure, why?  is the http unsuitable?
[06:33] <mfd> xtknight: I prefer ftp.
[06:33] <chalmer> Dougie: no it didnt pop up. but i click "network server" and then click "window network" and then "home" and then it showed my other comps
[06:33] <sharp15> i take it that's a "no".
[06:33] <chalmer> Dougie is that tha same?
[06:34] <sakobatoneko> can some one help me change my password from another account and without knowing the root password
[06:34] <xtknight> mfd: livecd daily FTP ftp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/daily-live/current     alternate textmode install daily FTP  ftp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/daily/current/
[06:34] <xtknight> mfd: if you prefer ftp because it lets you resume, well not all ftp servers support resume so dont count on it
[06:34] <chalmer> Dougie: no it didnt pop up. but i click "network server" and then click "window network" and then "home" and then it showed my other comps
[06:34] <xtknight> at least as far as i know
[06:34] <Dougie> chalmer: yeah that should be good lol
[06:35] <zerogt86> hey guys, i messed up my sound and i hope someone on here can help me fix it...
[06:35] <chalmer> lol ty
[06:35] <Wyvern> hi.. this might be a stupid question, but I have a software raid 5 partition that I want to expand with one more drive. Is it possible to do this without reformatting the partition?
[06:35] <cosmodad> sakobatoneko: log in to the account you know the password, then: passwd <user to change account for>
[06:35] <guest101> hello, glad to be here. i want to know what patches are applied on programs bluez-utils and ncurses lib in ubuntu. can you help me?
[06:35] <xtknight> mfd: the livecd for feisty also lets you install to disk although it has no text mode installer
[06:35] <Steve^> Is it possible to make the Gnome terminal larger by default?
[06:35] <costaspapa> Trouble intstalling VMSERVER
[06:35] <costaspapa> any help ?
[06:36] <sakobatoneko> fatima@yoshitsune:~$ passwd sakobatoneko
[06:36] <sakobatoneko> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for sakobatoneko.
[06:36] <TheVault> Question- how do I make bcm43xx-fwcutter boot on startup? I want my wireless to work after i was to restart or shutdown
[06:36] <chalmer> Dougie:
[06:36] <Dougie> huh?
[06:36] <jrib> Steve^: yeah, just change the shortcuts to call  gnome-terminal --geometry=GEOMETRY
[06:36] <mfd> xtknight: That's fine.
[06:37] <GHost__> hello
[06:37] <chalmer> Dougie: ?
[06:37] <Steve^> jrib, what format is GEOMETRY in?
[06:37] <Dougie> chalmer: you said dougie...
[06:37] <FireCat> Does anyone know of a resource for getting gdm to start on multiple login pages, so you can ctrl-alt-x to a different login
[06:38] <costaspapa> anyone one know how to install VMServer on ububntu?
[06:38] <jrib> Steve^: man X, but basically: WIDTHxHEIGHT will do what you want
[06:38] <GHost__> i am using parallels to install an ubuntu-server, but it cannot find the cd-drive any idea?
[06:38] <erUSUL> !vmware > costaspapa
[06:38] <hume> how can I extract a few pdf-pages from a larger document in ubuntu?
[06:38] <jrib> FireCat: edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[06:39] <chalmer> Dougie: when i click "my network drive " with all my music on it it will show only tha albums with MP3's but not tha other albums with WMA. how do i fix this?
[06:39] <FireCat> jrib: I got that far but man gdn.conf returns No Manual entry for gdm.conf
[06:39] <TheVault> Quick question: how can I shut off my touchpad when typing, and press a shortcut to re-enable it again when i'm done, or maybe have my touchpad shut off automatically when I type and turn on again when im done?
[06:39] <asad2005> where does  fetchmail -v --keep  save the email
[06:39] <jrib> FireCat: it is well commented, I don't remember what the option is exactly
[06:39] <Dougie> chalmer: no clue...lol
[06:40] <costaspapa> i get this error any one know y? Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".
[06:40] <FireCat> jrib: Actually from what I understand updates should be made to gdn.conf-custom
[06:40] <Flannel> asad2005: ~/Maildir by default, I believe
[06:40] <FireCat> jrib: gdn.conf-custom
[06:40] <chalmer> Dougie: does ubuntu not support .wma formats?
[06:40] <jrib> FireCat: yeah
[06:40] <Tomcat_> chalmer: It does.
[06:41] <Dougie> chalmer: yeah it does
[06:41] <FireCat> jrib: This issue really is what to change, it's not well commented at all
[06:41] <chalmer> Tomcat_: when i click "my network drive " with all my music on it it will show only tha albums with MP3's but not tha other albums with WMA. how do i fix this?
[06:41] <erUSUL> !mp3 > chalmer
[06:41] <asad2005> Flannel, I dont have that directory in my home
[06:41] <Tomcat_> chalmer: Click where?
[06:42] <Tomcat_> chalmer: But generally, see what ubotu told you... on that site there is information on how to get WMA support.
[06:42] <jrib> FireCat: 0=Standard, new line, 1=Standard
[06:42] <Dougie> when he goes to a computer on his network
[06:42] <TheVault> chalmer: You might wanna enable  the mp3 codec
[06:42] <costaspapa> Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".
[06:42] <costaspapa>  When installing VMserver
[06:42] <FireCat> There is a reference to an admin page in help, however going into help that page is deleted by what I am sure is a minor cletical error
[06:42] <costaspapa> anyone know y?
[06:42] <ubuntu> ok, so i accidentaly typed "sudo rm -r /*", is there a way i can fix this ? pls don't tell me i have to reinstall...
[06:42] <Pollywog> what is sveas?  Is that a person who distributes Ubuntu packages?
[06:42] <Dasnipa`> ubuntu, um... thats not good
[06:42] <Decadent> is there a working source list?? for the last three months i have problems with my source list
[06:42] <FireCat> jrib: In which section
[06:42] <clearzen> ubuntu: how do you type that on accident?
[06:42] <Dasnipa`> ubuntu, how do you accidently do something like that?
[06:42] <jrib> FireCat: [servers] 
[06:42] <ubuntu> Dasnipa`: tell me about it, my ~ key is sticky....
[06:43] <FireCat> jrib: Thanks
[06:43] <Decadent> i've checked ubuntu guide
[06:43] <ubuntu> i know i know, its dumb
[06:43] <erUSUL> ubuntu: you have erased every single file of the ubuntu install.... for sure you will have to reinstall
[06:43] <w0rmy> hi, my local area network works REALLY slow, 9-5 MS ping to router as less than 1MS on Windows, is there a remedy out there ?! I disabled IPV6 but still no change !!
[06:43] <zerogt86> can someone please help me?
[06:43] <Dougie> i downloaded a user guide for my printer and i guess the html's are written in like capse and lowercase but all the files are named in caps and firefox is not opening them because they are different like in the html it says Index.htm but the file is INDEX.HTM
[06:43] <Decadent> but the source list it has there wont work either
[06:43] <ubuntu> jeesh
[06:44] <costaspapa> CAn some one HElp Me Please?
[06:44] <costaspapa> Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".
[06:44] <costaspapa> what to do?
[06:44] <asad2005> what is the path to local mail folder for ubuntu user
[06:44] <erUSUL> asad2005: /var/spool/mail/ ?
[06:44] <Pollywog> nm ubotu answered my question
[06:44] <Dasnipa`> costaspapa, suco chmod with the correct flags
[06:44] <Dasnipa`> costaspapa, sudo *
[06:45] <costaspapa> sorrY?
[06:45] <costaspapa> dasnipa wat u mean???
[06:45] <Dasnipa`> costaspapa, man chmod then
[06:45] <w0rmy> arrr.... howcome windows networking is working so fast as compared to ubuntu ?
[06:46] <Pollywog> wget http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[06:46] <ortega10> what (gtk-based) app would you reccomend for internet radio browsing / exploring?  i've seen streamtuner, but it hasn't been updated in 3 years, so maybe there's something better ...
[06:46] <asad2005> erUSUL, and how to set up a mail client to that dir, ls shows only one file with user name
[06:46] <chass> hey, cool robotics and kitty-cat research:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=2bPtlDwr7P4   http://youtube.com/watch?v=iPKsXTVTLqI
[06:46] <pchilds> Is there any compatible player in ubuntu that will play itunes music files. I think they are in m4p format.
[06:46] <mrebola> hi ! excuse me , somebody help me mi xfc when i open a shell the shell are closed automaticaly :s
[06:46] <costaspapa> dasnipa i do not understand!!
[06:46] <ortega10> pchilds: yes many players, with the right codecs
[06:46] <mrebola> what its grong with my xfc?
[06:46] <steve_> hi, i am having a probelm with my system update.  it looks like it is something to do with a kernel image update that it wants to do.
[06:46] <pchilds> OK this is a restricted format thing?
[06:47] <ortega10> pchilds: m4p is just mp4/aac audio, you can play that with totem or rhythmbox or whatever, if you install the appropriate gstreamer plugins
[06:47] <steve_> i have posted at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10791/
[06:47] <Dasnipa`> costaspapa, is your problem not being able to access the files in a certain folder right? where is this folder located
[06:47] <steve_> i wonder if i have to delete some of these other kernel images...
[06:47] <ortega10> pchilds: open up synaptic, search for gstreamer plugins, then install them all, and voila
[06:47] <mrebola> hi, somebody know an espanish chanel of ubuntu?
[06:48] <sakobatoneko> the account that im using doesnt have sudo how can activate it
[06:48] <Dasnipa`> !es
[06:48] <pchilds> Cool. Thanks.
[06:48] <iulian_> hi, can someoane give me some assistance on compiling php5.2.1 from sources on ubuntu 6.10?
[06:48] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:48] <ortega10> pchilds: but if those files have drm, then you won't be able to play them at all, unless you remove the drm with an utility
[06:48] <greig_> Hey folks, im new to ubuntu and i plugged my webcam in and i tried to use it with kopete, but i have to drivers for the cam, is there anywhere i can get drivers for a trust web cam.... thanks in advance
[06:48] <mrebola> gracias :D
[06:48] <mrebola> thankz
[06:48] <kristjans> How can I fix the issue that sometimes when Ubuntu is booted up, the USB devices are not working?
[06:48] <ortega10> pchilds: if you bought them in the itunes store, they most likely have drm
[06:48] <sakobatoneko> anyone know how
[06:48] <Poul^Laptop> sadly, xtknight, the istaller spamed me with errors. something with some kernel which was not supportet
[06:48] <LordLimecat> anyone know an easy tool for making those .desktop files for the apps menu?
[06:48] <costaspapa> dasnipa  I try to install vmserver and i choose all the default.. but ii get an error
[06:48] <w0rmy_> hi, I have problem, ubuntu LAN is 500% slower as compared to windows, I tried turning off IPV6 but still no luck (and Im starting to lose it :S ). help ?
[06:49] <gu014> i have an .avi i want to burn to dvd. i will be using DeVeDe to convert it to dvd format. i also have the .srt subtitle file. i was wondering how i can burn this in to the dvd so that the resulting dvd will have subtitles?
[06:49] <ortega10> pchilds: drm are those stupid restrictions on media files, like you can play them only in some computers, and/or a certain number of times, and/or only in certain players, etc
[06:49] <pchilds> Yes most of them I did purchase. I already have the gstreamer plugins on my system so that must be the issue
[06:49] <Pollywog> does the "-" character have some special function in bash?
[06:49] <Pollywog> bash shell
[06:49] <quirin> root@ubuntu:~# sudo chroot /mnt/hda7
[06:49] <quirin> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
[06:49] <erUSUL> asad2005: iirc you have to configure procmail to make postfix deliver the mail to your home dir and then point your mail client to the mail dir/file
[06:49] <quirin> what can i do?
[06:49] <guest101> HEY YOU! SALE! Ubuntu 6.10 ONLY FOR $99! SALE! Only $99 and you`ll lose much time configuring it!
[06:49] <Flannel> quirin: You shouldn't be running as root
[06:49] <chalmer> Tomcat_ :  when i click" windows network" / home/soyo comp/shared music . it displays tha folders w/ MP3's in it but when i click some  folders w/ .WMA's in it it will show them but other folders it will say this"The folder contents could not be displayed."Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Transistor"
[06:49] <ortega10> pchilds: let me find you the utility that kills the drm in apple mp4 files
[06:50] <quirin> without root it's : ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ chroot /mnt/hda7
[06:50] <quirin> chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/hda7: Operation not permitted
[06:50] <Tomcat_> chalmer: That's a security permissions problem, not a problem of supporting WMAs I think.
[06:50] <chalmer> Tomcat_ ok ty
[06:50] <Pollywog> in: sudo apt-key add -    what does the - do?
[06:50] <ortega10> pchilds: wow jon lech johansen (dvd jon) did it again  :)
[06:50] <ep2011> How many times should I defrag my hard drive? Is once enough?
[06:50] <pchilds> Thanks for the info. I knew something funny was up after I set up mt-daapd. I can view any of my mp3 that are on ubuntu. Cool deal but I want to transfer my entire itunes library to ubuntu in order to free up space on my laptop
[06:50] <costaspapa> dasnipa  I try to install vmserver and i choose all the default.. but ii get an error
[06:51] <Tomcat_> chalmer: Check if the user has the correct permissions on Windows.
[06:51] <ortega10> pchilds: he found a way of circumventing the drm without even re-encoding the file
[06:51] <ep2011> (Before installing ubuntu)
[06:51] <ortega10> pchilds: check it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay#DeDRMS.2C_PlayFair.2C_QTFairUse.2C_and_Hymn
[06:51] <Tomcat_> chalmer: Eh sorry... on the file system.
[06:51] <atomiku> Any programs like MixMeister/Traktor Dj Studio available for linux?
[06:51] <guest101> Fucking #ubuntu room! flood only
[06:51] <quirin> can anyone help me? i dont know how to access and save my data:/
[06:51] <asad2005> erUSUL,  I have used the following command fetchmail -v --keep  and it has downloaded all mails they must be some where
[06:52] <Pollywog> quirin: please explain
[06:52] <ortega10> what (gtk-based) app would you reccomend for internet radio browsing / exploring?  i've seen streamtuner, but it hasn't been updated in 3 years, so maybe there's something better ...
[06:52] <chalmer> Tomcat_ : does edubuntu LTS come w/ a media player to play these songs?
[06:52] <JohnPhys> costaspapa: what error?
[06:52] <steve_> pchilds: i just set mt-daap this morning on my server.  i was able to stream my DRMd Apple songs to my windows computer, since it was "authorized"
[06:52] <iulian_> how can I compile a something? (php int this case)
[06:52] <quirin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt/hda7
[06:52] <quirin> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
[06:52] <quirin> iam on the live cd
[06:52] <erUSUL> asad2005: http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~lativyn/articles/debian-mutt/
[06:53] <Tomcat_> chalmer: Sure, rhythmbox + amarok should do it.
[06:53] <erUSUL> asad2005: /var/spool/mail/youruser afaik
[06:53] <Pollywog> quirin what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:53] <quirin> i have a problems with the rights of home
[06:53] <Pollywog> oh
[06:53] <quirin> i wanted to access my system with live cd
[06:53] <steve_> steve
[06:53] <zerogt86> I tried to set up my nvidia soundstorm, but it will not compile the nivdia drivers. ive given up on the nvidia drivers, but now the intel8x0 driver does not give me any sound (it used to before i tried the nvidia drivers). any idea how to get it working?
[06:54] <Pollywog> I think you have to mount the partition
[06:54] <quirin> i already did so
[06:54] <Pollywog> k
[06:54] <Pollywog> the mount command says it is mounted?
[06:54] <quirin> but i cant get into home
[06:54] <quirin> he always says permission denied
[06:55] <quirin> or something
[06:55] <quirin> i can see my home folder in nautilus
[06:55] <Pollywog> I think perhaps you mounted it with incorrect permissions
[06:55] <steve_> so, i think my kernel upgrade problem is due to my /boot partition being too full.  is there a command to check which kernel is being used so that i can safely remove the old versions?
[06:55] <chalmer> Tomcat_: when i click a song its displays this message "Totem could not play 'smb://daddys/Music (E)/2Pac/2Pac Live/01 Live Medley- California Love-So Many Tears.wma'.You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.   how do i fix this? ty
[06:55] <Tomcat_> !restrictedofmrats | chalmer
[06:55] <ortega10> chalmer: open synaptic
[06:55] <Pollywog> can someone help quirin with accessing a partition from the LIVE cd?
[06:55] <odat> hi everyone
[06:55] <Tomcat_> !restrictedformats | chalmer
[06:55] <odat> how do i create a  symlink?
[06:55] <ubotu> chalmer: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <quirin> :/
[06:56] <ortega10> chalmer: search for gstreamer plugins, then install them all
[06:56] <BigLebowski> chalmer, you need to install mp3 codecs
[06:56] <Tomcat_> chalmer: See that page.
[06:56] <ortega10> BigLebowski: no man, it said wma
[06:56] <zerogt86> would anyone know what to do?
[06:56] <Dumahen> how can i get back my ubuntu ? it has some problem after update :S
[06:56] <BigLebowski> Either that, or linux is just saying 'eww 2pac, no hanks'
[06:56] <quirin> i messed up with the rights of home because i wanted to create a second account
[06:56] <BigLebowski> Then you'll need to install w32codecs
[06:56] <quirin> shit:/
[06:56] <pchilds> Thanks folks and have a good day.
[06:56] <PriceChild> !ohmy | quirin
[06:56] <ubotu> quirin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:57] <ortega10> BigLebowski: no man
[06:57] <Pollywog> BigLebowski: is that legal in US, do you know ?
[06:57] <quirin> cant i restore the rights of my home folder by any chance?
[06:57] <ortega10> BigLebowski: wma audio has been supported for years by free software
[06:57] <FreeKFC_Guy> im having difficulty installing ubuntu edgy on laptop - its stuck on detyecting file system - any idea
[06:57] <Dumahen> how can i get back my ubuntu ? it has some problem after update plzz help me
[06:57] <BigLebowski> Pollywog, i assume it is, i have no idea. couldn't care less either way really.
[06:57] <Pollywog> quirin: have you tried chmod -R /home/username ?
[06:57] <ortega10> BigLebowski: no need for proprietary illegal win32codecs, which aren't allowed in any country not just the usa
[06:57] <quirin> yes, i think so
[06:57] <BigLebowski> ortega10. well, sorry, i didnt know wma was supported, i never use wma
[06:58] <Flannel> quirin, Pollywog, you don't want to recursively chmod your homedir
[06:58] <BigLebowski> ortega10, define illegal.
[06:58] <Pollywog> quirin: have you tried chown username.username -R /home/username ?
[06:58] <bayziders> I am in the ubuntu live cd and i deleted my windows partition so it is now unalocated space. but it will now let me add that space to my ubuntu partition. So how do I add it to my ubuntu partition?
[06:58] <ortega10> BigLebowski: what's forbidden by the law?  :)
[06:58] <BigLebowski> ortega10: Who's law? microsofts?
[06:58] <Pollywog> Flannel: yes I made a mistake
[06:58] <Pollywog> quirin: have you tried chown username.username -R /home/username ?
[06:58] <ortega10> BigLebowski: nope, copyright laws
[06:58] <quirin> aehm
[06:58] <hasahotrod> does anyone know how to fix problems with battery status?
[06:58] <quirin> iam not sure
[06:58] <Pollywog> quirin: have you tried chown -R username.username /home/username ?
[06:58] <quirin> sorry
[06:58] <BigLebowski> ortega10: 'You used wma on linux, we're suing you' would NEVER hold up in court, atleast in the UK.
[06:59] <ortega10> BigLebowski: reverse-engineered media codecs may violate patents in countries that have them (eg usa), but they don't violate copyright laws
[06:59] <BigLebowski> And how does a codec come under copyright law? patent maybe.
[06:59] <quirin> the problem is that i cant access my home folder any longer
[06:59] <Poul^Laptop> what was the command again to shutdown all GUI, to be able to run nvidia driver install
[06:59] <Pollywog> oic
[06:59] <foutrelis> Poul^Laptop: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:59] <BigLebowski> ortega10: Then how is the free codec less illegal, it'd have to be reverse engineered to find out how the codec works
[06:59] <sakobatoneko> the account that im using doesnt have sudo how can activate it
[06:59] <hasahotrod> poul^laptop:  "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[07:00] <Daem> For some reason, the Nvidia Xserver settings is not saving the resolution for the next time I login, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[07:00] <sakobatoneko> can someone help me
[07:00] <bayziders> can some one help me?
[07:00] <erUSUL> BigLebowski: but 'You distributed patented algorithms that decompress wma and you didn't pay us any royalties will hold up in court'
[07:00] <BigLebowski> sakobatoneko, add the username/group to the sudoers file.
[07:00] <foutrelis> Sakarias: By editing /etc/sudoers I think.
[07:00] <hasahotrod> does anyone know how to make gnome-power-manager use acpi instead of apm?
[07:00] <odat> can anyone help me get the java firefox plugin working
[07:00] <BigLebowski> erUSUL, if it was bundled with ubuntu, maybe, but thats a different story
[07:01] <Pollywog> sakobatoneko: I think you have to use the visudo command to do it
[07:01] <shadowhywind> hay all just installed nvidia for the 20th time, and it actraulyl is semi-working.. it takes 15-20 mins for KDE to start.. any ideas?
[07:01] <erUSUL> BigLebowski: see what happened with m$ and thomsom. m$ was condened to pay thomsom royalties for distributing mp3 codec
[07:01] <bayziders> no one knows what is wrong???
[07:01] <IndyGunFreak> 15-20min?.. damn... use Gnome.. ;)
[07:01] <Dumahen> how can i get back my ubuntu ? it has some problem after update plzz help me ...
[07:01] <hasahotrod> erUSL: that's current;y being appealed
[07:01] <BigLebowski> erUSUL, as i said, thats bundling it with the distribution, thats different.
[07:01] <foutrelis> shadowhywind: Do you use the ones provided at nvidia.com?
[07:01] <shadowhywind> its a nvidia problem.. if i change xorg back to nv everything works fine
[07:02] <BigLebowski> Plenty of chinese device manufacturers seem to get away with it fine.
[07:02] <shadowhywind> foutrelis yes
[07:02] <msgmikeh> Hi, I am getting gibberish trying to install U 6.10. The CD boots up, I get to the orange background, with would looks like bad pixels all over the screen. Any one have any ideas?
[07:02] <shadowhywind> along with the ones in the repo's and the ones from the envy script
[07:02] <shadowhywind> all do the same thing
[07:02] <msgmikeh> with what rather.. not would
[07:02] <BigLebowski> I'd personally just convert to flac, but as with dvd and swf, i need nonfree stuff aswell.
[07:02] <bayziders> not a single one of you knows what is wrong O_O
[07:02] <shadowhywind> if i connect an external monitor up, everything works peftect, expect of course the laptop monitor just turns off
[07:02] <Pollywog> msgmikeh: have you tried the alternate install CD?
[07:02] <FireCat> jrib: Thanks, that worked beautifully, now I can run a chooser on another vt and don't need a kvm switch :)
[07:02] <BigLebowski> bayziders, whats up?
[07:03] <eilker> where is kept *.deb files ? in etc/apt ?
[07:03] <foutrelis> shadowhywind: I suggest you removed those drivers and use only the ones provided by nvidia.com
[07:03] <jrib> FireCat: great
[07:03] <Pollywog> eilker: /var/cache/apt/archive
[07:03] <IndyGunFreak> msgmikeh: i agree with Pollywog try the altnerate install cd
[07:03] <shadowhywind> the ones from nvidia.com do the same issues
[07:03] <bayziders> I'm in my ubuntu live cd. I deleted my windows partition and now I want to add that to my ubuntu partition but it wont let me. So how do i do it
[07:03] <eilker> Pollywog>:thanx
[07:03] <Rkyraccoon55> !ntfs-3g
[07:03] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:03] <rEvolution27> in what folder can I find the gnome icons
[07:04] <rennen01> hello all
[07:04] <foutrelis> shadowhywind: I can't help further :(
[07:04] <IndyGunFreak> rEvolution27: usr/share/pixmaps i think
[07:04] <Pollywog> eilker: /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:04] <msgmikeh> Pollywog: Okay, thank you, what alternate install CD? Sorry, I'm just a linux noob. :)
[07:04] <shadowhywind> k thanks anyways
[07:04] <Pollywog> I forgot the "s"
[07:04] <IndyGunFreak> !alternate | msg
[07:04] <ubotu> msg: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:04] <bayziders> so Biglwbowski do you know whats wrong?
[07:04] <Pollywog> msgmikeh: where you downloaded your iso you will also find the alternate CD iso
[07:04] <BigLebowski> bayziders, what is the problem?
[07:05] <bayziders> it wont let me add unallowcated space to existing partition.
[07:05] <BigLebowski> then i'm not sure
[07:05] <rEvolution27> are any of the gnome icons vector icons?
[07:05] <BigLebowski> brb
[07:05] <msgmikeh> Gotcha. Will, Is there instructions on the expert model install?
[07:05] <Pollywog> bayziders: you try qtparted?
[07:05] <IndyGunFreak> msgmikeh: its easy
[07:05] <bayziders> im in the ubuntu live cd
[07:05] <IndyGunFreak> just follow the instructions
[07:06] <msgmikeh> ok, I'll try it. :)
[07:06] <Daem> For some reason, the Nvidia Xserver settings is not saving the resolution for the next time I login, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[07:06] <theBrave> Hello, When I use Xgl, the fonts are twice as big, any ideas to fix that ?
[07:07] <Pollywog> bayziders: find QTparted on the CD or gparted if it is Gnome based
[07:07] <bayziders> okay then what
[07:07] <Pollywog> if it is not there use a Knoppix CD.
[07:07] <Pollywog> that should allow you to allowcate the space
[07:07] <Pollywog> allocate
[07:08] <bayziders> why can't I just do it from the live cd install thing
[07:08] <Pollywog> it is a graphical partitioning utility
[07:08] <msgmikeh> http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/
[07:08] <Pollywog> bayziders: I think you can I am just not certain
[07:08] <witless> is it possible to set the AI difficulty of xboard/gnuchess?  preferably to "brain-damaged"?
[07:08] <bayziders> its downloading qt parted
[07:09] <IndyGunFreak> witless: lol
[07:09] <rEvolution27> pixmaps doesn't have what I want, i'm looking for the icons that gnome uses, like the folder icon and hard drive icon
[07:09] <Pollywog> bayziders: no you don't need to downlaod it I think it is available from the Live cd
[07:09] <IndyGunFreak> rEvolution27: you'll have to change that another way, can't remember how.
[07:09] <IndyGunFreak> within your theme i think
[07:09] <Pollywog> is it KDE?
[07:10] <rEvolution27> i don't wanna change em, I just want to find the images themselves
[07:10] <bayziders> no its gnome
[07:10] <rennen01> hello all
[07:10] <colbert> i Want to remove /media/music, how do I do this in terminal ??
[07:10] <Poul^Laptop> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:10] <Poul^Laptop>     did not realy give an option to run anything after :P
[07:10] <Pollywog> k then go to the main menu and look around the system utilities
[07:10] <Pollywog> it will be gparted
[07:10] <Pollywog> not qtparted
[07:11] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, around?
[07:11] <Pollywog> if it is not there use a Knoppix CD then use the Ubuntu install CD after you are done
[07:11] <bayziders> im downloading qtparted
[07:11] <Pollywog> I know Knoppix has it
[07:11] <ortega10> thebiglebowski: i don't think this is the right channel for explaining the difference between copyright and patents
[07:12] <rennen01> can anyone help with the ens1371 soundcard problems....i have done the comprehensive todo list already
[07:12] <Pollywog> was there a movie called thebiglebowski?
[07:13] <Pollywog> anyone know if qtparted or gparted are included on the live cd's?
[07:13] <bayziders> there not
[07:13] <Pollywog> oh
[07:13] <bayziders> but you can download them
[07:13] <ayyub> Hmm, any idea why my sound would just cease to work? I'm running 7.04.
[07:13] <bayziders> which i did
[07:13] <Pollywog> k
[07:13] <Flannel> ayyub: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[07:13] <ayyub> Ah, okay.
[07:13] <Pollywog> my Knoppix CD comes in handy at times
[07:13] <bayziders> i dont have one
[07:14] <bayziders> so this is impossbile
[07:14] <bayziders> qtparted does not see my hdd
[07:14] <bayziders> i can nto do it in the install
[07:14] <colbert> I want to remove the dir  /media/music, how do I do this in terminal ???
[07:14] <bayziders> and im not sdonwloading koppinix
[07:14] <bayziders> because i dont have the room on my hd
[07:14] <bayziders> d
[07:14] <ortega10> what app would you reccomend for internet radio browsing / exploring?  i've seen streamtuner, but it hasn't been updated in 3 years, so maybe there's something better ...
[07:15] <Pollywog> ortega10: look up songbird
[07:15] <rennen01> can anyone help with the ens1371 soundcard problems?....i have done the comprehensive todo list already...Please PM me if you can help
[07:15] <Pollywog> I think it might do that
[07:15] <ortega10> Pollywog: thanks a lot but i kinda hated it  :)
[07:15] <Pollywog> k
[07:15] <bayziders> can some one help me add unalocated space to my ext3 partition in the ubuntu live cd
[07:16] <leemoreau> .server mesa.az.us.undernet.org
[07:16] <Pollywog> bayziders: did you try deleting the ext3 partition and then creating a new one?
[07:16] <bayziders> that will whipe my ubuntu install
[07:16] <bayziders> wont it
[07:16] <Pollywog> yes it will
[07:16] <bayziders> I can not do that
[07:17] <bayziders> i will lose all my files
[07:17] <Pollywog> k
[07:17] <Leo> Hello everyone. I'm having trouble and was wondering if anyone could help me. I've just installed ubuntu edgy eft 6.10 which seemed to work fine. But when I tried to start it up i got a message like "fatal server error: no screens found." Can someone help? I think my graphics card is Radeon X800Pro. thanks
[07:17] <phaedrus_> hello
[07:17] <phaedrus_> os[Linux 2.6.17-11-generic i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU        420  @ 1.60GHz @ 1.60GHz]  mem[Physical : 494MB, 61.4% free]  disk[Total : 72.40GB, 91.10% Free]  video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller]  sound[] 
[07:17] <phaedrus_> sorry
[07:17] <Pollywog> you can't move the files and then replace them later?
[07:17] <bayziders> we;; aucctualy
[07:17] <bayziders>  wait
[07:17] <broad> who has lib for playing ape music
[07:17] <bayziders> I could jsut partition it and save files to that parttion
[07:17] <Pollywog> ape?
[07:17] <bayziders> correct?
[07:17] <broad> yes
[07:17] <Qcho> Hi! does anyone have the PvPGN statics release - 2.4.5 out there?
[07:17] <Pollywog> bayziders: I don't know if that would work
[07:18] <bayziders> worth a shot
[07:18] <Pollywog> don't do it if you are not sure
[07:18] <steve_> so, i think my kernel upgrade problem is due to my /boot partition being too full.  is there a command to check which kernel is being used so that i can safely remove the old versions?  my /boot dir is in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10791/ lines 41-48
[07:18] <Pollywog> can you burn the files to a CD?
[07:18] <Pollywog> or move to another machine?
[07:19] <phaedrus_> how do i give my main user permissions to write to sda2 disk?
[07:19] <bayziders> this will work'
[07:19] <broad> no
[07:19] <Pollywog> what is ape music?
[07:20] <broad> i have no CD-RW
[07:20] <broad> ape file of music
[07:20] <Leo> I'm having trouble and was wondering if anyone could help me. I've just installed ubuntu edgy eft 6.10 which seemed to work fine. But when I tried to start it up i got a message like "fatal server error: no screens found." Can someone help? I think my graphics card is Radeon X800Pro. thanks
[07:20] <Pollywog> oh a format?
[07:20] <hardcampa> ape music = hiphop imho
[07:20] <Pollywog> oic
[07:20] <hardcampa> E=
[07:20] <Pollywog> I had not heard of it
[07:20] <broad> yes
[07:21] <rennen01> Can anyone help with the ens1371 soundcard problems? I have done the Comprehensive Sound Problems Guide already. Please PM me if you can help
[07:21] <Dumahen> how can i get back my ubuntu ? it has some problem after update plzz help me ...
[07:21] <Pollywog> I was thinking Planet of the Apes or something
[07:21] <Poul^Laptop> When trying to install nvidia drivers, its saying taht i havent installed libc headers? anyone know?
[07:21] <Pollywog> or Jane Goodall
[07:21] <Lynoure> Dumahen: a bit more detail, please.
[07:21] <Dumahen> i try to install bery theme and i couldnt do it
[07:22] <Dumahen> after restart it updated itself
[07:22] <Dumahen> ( ubuntu )
[07:22] <nyc-h0st> can anyone shine some light onto why my perl gd wont compile?
[07:22] <bayziders> Will all linux versions be able to read and write to ext3?
[07:22] <Pollywog> anyone know which Ubuntu package contains alsaconf?
[07:23] <nyc-h0st> Pollywog apt-cache search alsaconf
[07:23] <Leo> I'm having trouble and was wondering if anyone could help me. I've just installed ubuntu edgy eft 6.10 which seemed to work fine. But when I tried to start it up i got a message like "fatal server error: no screens found." Can someone help? I think my graphics card is Radeon X800Pro. thanks
[07:23] <Pollywog> bayziders: you need to have it enabled in your kernel but the stock kernels have that enabled
[07:23] <Lynoure> Dumahen: sorry, I don't do beryl stuff
[07:23] <Pollywog> in Debian, alsaconf is part of the alsa-utils package but the Ubuntu package does not have it
[07:24] <bayziders> hold on
[07:24] <bayziders> have to boot out of the live cd
[07:24] <house_> i have the java firefox plugins installed but firefox isn't seeing them
[07:24] <Dumahen> Lynoure : i want to uninstall last installed pacages
[07:24] <Pollywog> I think the Live CD can handle it
[07:25] <Lynoure> !ati | Leo
[07:25] <ubotu> Leo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:26] <Dumahen> Lynoure : i want to uninstall last installed package
[07:26] <Pollywog> apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:26] <ep2011> I just finished fragmenting my computer, and it looks like this now - http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/1969/fraggm9.png - Do you think I should defrag it again?
[07:26] <Dumahen> or get back my computer !
[07:26] <Pollywog> sudo that
[07:26] <ep2011> defragging*
[07:26] <Lynoure> Dumahen: I told you, I do not help with beryl related stuff...
[07:26] <Pollywog> sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:26] <Leo> thanks, will do
[07:26] <Dumahen> but it is not about berly
[07:27] <Dumahen> it is about ubuntu updates
[07:27] <Lynoure> Dumahen: Pollywog's command works if you know the package names and do not mind the packages being completely gone.
[07:27] <Pollywog> Dumahen: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:27] <nall> are there torrents of the install cds?
[07:27] <msgmikeh> Does U 6.10 support hard drives on controller cards?
[07:27] <ep2011> Yes nall - its on the download page
[07:27] <IndyGunFreak> msgmikeh: you mean like scsi cards?
[07:27] <ep2011> i'll find you the link
[07:27] <Lynoure> Dumahen: Which version of Ubuntu are you using? And were the updates from the standard repositories?
[07:27] <ep2011> pc normal cd?
[07:27] <Poul^Laptop> RROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system.
[07:28] <Poul^Laptop> cant seam to solve that
[07:28] <steve_> so, i think my kernel upgrade problem is due to my /boot partition being too full.  is there a command to check which kernel is being used so that i can safely remove the old versions?  my /boot dir is in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10791/ lines 41-48
[07:28] <Pollywog> Poul^Laptop: are you trying to compile a package or install one?
[07:28] <Poul^Laptop> trying to install nvidia drivers
[07:28] <msgmikeh> IndyGunFreak: I have a Promise SATA/IDE controller card with a 200GB drive on it. Didn't know if U 6.10 supported these or not.
[07:28] <Lynoure> steve_: uname -a
[07:28] <Dumahen> i cant read the konsole the letters r invisible all in my ubuntu is the same :(:(:(:(:(:(
[07:28] <Pollywog> Poul^Laptop: sudo apt-get build-dep packagename
[07:29] <nall> ep2011: i must be blind. i don't see any torrent info there
[07:29] <Poul^Laptop> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1085490&postcount=8   same problem as said there
[07:29] <Pollywog> that will get the packages you need
[07:29] <ep2011> nall: http://ftp.ucr.ac.cr/ubuntu-cd/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[07:29] <Lynoure> steve_: that shows the name of the running kernel
[07:29] <IndyGunFreak> msgmikeh: i see, not real sure to be truthful.
[07:29] <ep2011> thats the i386 desktop edition
[07:29] <nall> ep2011: thanks. x86 desktop'll do just fine
[07:29] <ep2011> they are on the normal download pages when you pick a mirror
[07:29] <Poul^Laptop> pollywog - just copy paste taht to terminal?
[07:29] <ep2011> and on the bottom theres torrent links
[07:29] <ep2011> no problem
[07:29] <Dumahen> Lynoure: i cant read the konsole the letters r invisible all in my ubuntu is the same :(:(:(:(:(:(
[07:29] <Pollywog> yes but use the name of the package
[07:29] <Pollywog> not packagename
[07:30] <theBrave> hello, where is modprobe.conf, I need to add a line to make my soundcard work
[07:30] <Poul^Laptop> i am lost, i dont know what the name is
[07:30] <steve_> Lynoure:  Ah!   that returns:  2.6.15-27-386 #1 so i can wipe out anything that is not -27?
[07:30] <Pollywog> Poul^Laptop: what command gave you the libc6 error?
[07:30] <Dumahen> i wanna cryyyy :(
[07:30] <ep2011> I just defraged my hard drive and now it looks like this http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/1969/fraggm9.png - should I defrag it again before installing ubuntu?
[07:30] <mohamed> i am a complete newbie and i do not know if i am in the right place
[07:30] <bayziders> I have a ext3 partition on my hdd but ubuntu does not realize it how do i make it realize it
[07:30] <klick> Hey all, anyone know why when i do a df -h I can't see my root partition?
[07:30] <Poul^Laptop> pollywog, not a command, it was the nvidia installer
[07:30] <mohamed> i need help mounting a ntfs drive
[07:30] <rennen01> Can anyone help with the ens1371 soundcard problems? I have done the Comprehensive Sound Problems Guide already. Please PM me if you can help
[07:31] <ep2011> !mount | bayziders
[07:31] <ubotu> bayziders: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:31] <Poul^Laptop> pollywog - http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1085490&postcount=8  that guy have same problem
[07:31] <Pollywog> Poul^Laptop: oh the installer you used from nvidia site?
[07:31] <bayziders> ep2011: How do i make it so it is permintaly mounted?
[07:31] <Pollywog> why not just 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'?
[07:31] <aozaki>  Bonjour  tout le monde ! (Yes, I'm Frensh so : Hello everybody)
[07:31] <Lynoure> steve_: if you have established that the current one works to your satisfaction.
[07:32] <rennen01> i am just gonna but a new sound card
[07:32] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia
[07:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:32] <Poul^Laptop> yes pollywog
[07:32] <rennen01> *buy
[07:32] <Poul^Laptop> pollywog- i dnt have the libc6-dev installed, thats the one=?
[07:32] <steve_> i believe so.  my main reason to update is that not being able to update the kernel seems to break synaptic
[07:32] <Pollywog> I just use 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' and that gets everything I need
[07:32] <ep2011> Can someone please look at my disk defragmener output picture and tell me if I should defrag again? http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/1969/fraggm9.png
[07:32] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: current nvidia drivers do not work with feisty
[07:32] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight ok
[07:33] <Atraeyu> Is it possible to update gaim?  The newest version is 2.0b6 ... but edgy came with 2.0b3 installed ...
[07:33] <Pollywog> but read the reference just posted if you really want to use the installer
[07:33] <msgmikeh> IndyGunFreak: no prob. I'll find out soon enough :)
[07:33] <iceonnet> anyone:
[07:33] <iceonnet> glxinfo|grepdirect outputs:
[07:33] <iceonnet> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:33] <iceonnet> direct rendering: No
[07:33] <iceonnet> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:33] <iceonnet> Whats wrong??
[07:33] <Pollywog> IcemanCZ: you installed Nvidia packages?
[07:33] <robokop> !pastebin | iceonnet
[07:33] <ubotu> iceonnet: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:33] <Pollywog> oops
[07:33] <bayziders> how do i keep a partition permintaly mounted?
[07:33] <mohamed> I attempted to read as much as possible about mounting i downloaded some packages but i still get errors
[07:33] <Pollywog> iceonnet: : you installed Nvidia packages?
[07:33] <mohamed> it does not work
[07:34] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, so basicly i cant get byrel to work with the new kernel.
[07:34] <lagartero> hello I have problems with the sound card, Help me!!!
[07:34] <iceonnet> Pollywog: nope.. ATI
[07:34] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: that's correct
[07:34] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: not until nvidia releases a fixed driver for kernel 2.6.20
[07:34] <Pollywog> oh I don't know about ATI
[07:34] <Poul^Laptop> well, i have had it working with 2.6.20-(theone before 11)  xtknight
[07:35] <robokop> is there an xfce replacement for synaptic
[07:35] <iceonnet> Pollywog: ok
[07:35] <mohamed> hello can someone help me
[07:35] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: well all i know is that it doesn't work with 2.6.20.2.  i assumed this was more or less the same problem
[07:35] <dhaval> ok, so i did a sudo apt-get install compiz
[07:35] <bayziders> !fstab
[07:35] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:35] <dhaval> now how do i use compiz?
[07:35] <`nicola> guys I have this problem with grub http://pastebin.ca/399074
[07:36] <bayziders> dhaval : Go to #ubuntu-effects, they will be able to help you.
[07:36] <mohamed> ok i will try that website
[07:36] <Poul^Laptop> hmm, xtknight, let me reboot and i will check which one it was. its something 2.6.20
[07:36] <Thorny> The last batch of software updates were marked "not authorized".  What's up?
[07:36] <xtknight> uname -r ..
[07:36] <dhaval> bayziders: thanks!] 
[07:36] <bayziders> np
[07:37] <Pollywog> Thorny were those errors about not having a gnupg key?
[07:37] <sorush20> my grub is messed up
[07:37] <sorush20> any idea how to fix it?
[07:37] <bayziders> How do I mount a partition?
[07:37] <sorush20> I keep getting error 15 file not found..
[07:38] <Thorny> Not sure.  Just a warning about how I could compromise my system by installing them.
[07:38] <megabunny> bayziders use mount
[07:38] <steve_> Lynoure: ok, i mv'd the other versions of all the files out to a backup dir and i'll see if the apt-get -f  works now. thanks!
[07:38] <greig__> whats the command to login as root please?
[07:38] <Shaffox> !mount | bayziders
[07:38] <ubotu> bayziders: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:38] <bayziders> sudo mount /dev/hda1/ >
[07:38] <Lynoure> steve_: eek, you moved the files?
[07:38] <whta> is filezilla the recommended FTP client?
[07:38] <jrib> !root | greig__
[07:38] <ubotu> greig__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:38] <Lynoure> steve_: you should have rather uninstalled the packages.
[07:38] <jrib> !ftp | whta
[07:38] <ubotu> whta: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[07:39] <Lynoure> steve_: easier, cleaner, better.
[07:39] <`nicola> is anyone available for some help with grub ? http://pastebin.ca/399074
[07:39] <mohamed> i think i screwed up my fstab tile
[07:39] <mohamed> file
[07:39] <Pollywog> whta: I don't know, I like gftp
[07:39] <theBrave> is i normal that I dont have a /etc/modprobe.conf
[07:39] <PedroS> greig: in ubuntu you must add the user root.    sudo passwd root
[07:39] <PedroS> greig: then you can login using the   su  command
[07:39] <chris_> whta, Filezilla, is very good would definatly recommend it
[07:40] <megabunny> fstab is pretty tough to mess totally read man fstab and edit a copy not the live one
[07:40] <root__> server irc.security-portal.cz
[07:40] <steve_> Lynoure: ah...well, the -28 kernel update seems to be working.  so does this mean my package system will be out of sync?
[07:40] <whta> i used filezilla on windows. just wondering if that's what the linux crowd prefers as well.
[07:40] <bwlang> <`nicola: i think you're looking for the chainload +1 command...
[07:41] <thcmonkey> i can't change my res to 1680x1050 anyone know why?
[07:41] <`nicola> thanks bwlang I'll investigate for this chainload stuff
[07:41] <Lynoure> steve_: yes, it will think you have those kernel packages installed and might hickup if you try to remove them. But probably no major effect from it being this way
[07:41] <jazzi> !apt-get
[07:41] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:41] <thotz> whta: yes it looks nice, but it's only beta
[07:41] <greig__> :( i think linux is a bit much for me, i can barely do simple things~:(
[07:41] <mohamed> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[07:41] <mohamed> #
[07:41] <mohamed> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[07:41] <mohamed> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[07:41] <mohamed> # /dev/hdb5
[07:41] <robokop> is there an xfce replacement for synaptic?
[07:41] <mohamed> UUID=93101cac-8ab2-4b90-a85d-40b32470a7ed none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:41] <mohamed> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:41] <mohamed> /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[07:41] <mohamed> /dev/hda1 /windows ntfs nls=utf8,unmask=0222 0 0/dev/hda1 /windows ntfs nls=utf8,unmask=0222 0
[07:41] <mohamed> that is what it says
[07:41] <Atraeyu> Anyone have any experience with fetchyahoo & thunderbird?
[07:41] <mohamed> i deleted something from it
[07:41] <thcmonkey> woah mohamed
[07:41] <robokop> !pastebin | mohamed
[07:41] <ubotu> mohamed: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:41] <mohamed> and back is the same
[07:41] <thcmonkey> know what spamming is?
[07:41] <`nicola> bwlang, I alread have chainloader +1 in my menu.lst entry
[07:41] <whta> filezilla isn't in synaptic?
[07:41] <PedroS> greig__: hmm ok :)   it is always a bit hard in the beginning
[07:42] <jazzi> !kmatix
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <ompaul> !pastebin | mohamed
[07:42] <robokop> thcmonkey: it isn't spamming it is flooding
[07:42] <bwlang> robokop: yeah - aptitude in a nice xfce shell ;)
[07:42] <greig__> all im trying to do is get a web cam working too :(
[07:42] <mohamed> i am sorry
[07:42] <greig__> im getting nowhere fast
[07:42] <steve_> Lynoure: ok, well, it looks like it finished and wants a reboot.  thanks for your help.. here goes!
[07:42] <thcmonkey> robokop: like it matters?
[07:42] <Pollywog> spamming is when you try to sell widgets
[07:42] <PedroS> greig__: so... for default you cannot login with root in ubuntu
[07:42] <mohamed> just want to load my partition and all the tutorials are quick
[07:43] <thcmonkey> Pollywog: what?
[07:43] <nexousNET> If I install ubuntu-server edition, can I still use BlueFish with it?
[07:43] <Pollywog> PedroS: what about sudo su ?
[07:43] <lonran> hi everybody
[07:43] <robokop> bwlang: well it is for my brothers old pc for me a bit of cli programs wouldn't be a prob but my brother is used to whindhows
[07:43] <mohamed> i need to open things like photoshop and flash thats all i want
[07:43] <ephemeral> hello, may i get some help regarding Beryl n Ubuntu?
[07:44] <PedroS> greig__:  to execute something with root permissions you must do something like  sudo command
[07:44] <greig__> Pedros- i need the command to log in as root( looking thro the link u send) then i have no idea how to install this driver, oh its alllll over my head lol
[07:44] <jazzi> !worksforme
[07:44] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:44] <chris_> #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <bwlang> robokop: sorry - don't know of anything... but you can run synaptic from window managers other than gnome...
[07:44] <megabunny> you can get a root shell with sudo bash
[07:44] <thcmonkey> ephemeral: /join #beryl
[07:44] <chris_> Ohh
[07:44] <ephemeral> thcmonkey: thanks
[07:44] <chris_> I got told ubuntu effects or sommit
[07:44] <whta> why is filezilla not listed in synaptic?
[07:45] <robokop> bwlang: i know that but it is way to heavy for a 200Mhz 114Mb ram pc :S
[07:45] <Pollywog> won't 'sudo su' log someone in as root?
[07:45] <lonran> when i open the gnome-theme-manager i get the error: /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml': No such file or directory and can't change the gtk theme, any idea?
[07:45] <thcmonkey> Pollywog: su
[07:45] <greig__> Pollywog, yes that worked
[07:45] <thcmonkey> is all you need
[07:45] <PedroS> Pollywog: yes that works
[07:45] <bwlang> robokop: i think your only other option is aptitude then...
[07:45] <Pollywog> just be careful when you do it
[07:45] <thcmonkey> lol
[07:45] <greig__> now i have to smash my head off my monitor trying to get web cam drivers installed oh oh
[07:45] <robokop> bwlang: okay thanks
[07:45] <`nicola> bwlang, my system froze (?) did you answer ?
[07:46] <PedroS> extra caution when using root :)
[07:46] <robokop> greig__: ohoh that would be heavy
[07:46] <bwlang> nicol: no... i don't know what's wrong.
[07:46] <`nicola> ok
[07:46] <nexousNET> How do I completely remove ubuntu from my laptop? Command based only?
[07:46] <`nicola> thanks
[07:46] <atomiku> Any programs like MixMeister/Traktor Dj Studio available for linux?
[07:46] <Yeason> I'm trying to get excel working in kubuntu with wine but I get the error "IOPL not enabled" and I can't find any clear solutions on google, anyone have an idea what I need to do?
[07:46] <IndyGunFreak> !remove
[07:46] <jazzi> i want to install build-essential, how can i install?
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <PedroS> greig__: what is the link you're talking about?
[07:47] <Lynoure> nexousNET: you can just install another OS over it and let it format the whole disk
[07:47] <Pollywog> jsudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:47] <Pollywog> jazzi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:47] <greig__> it was just the info on root access, ive got that worrking
[07:47] <nexousNET> Lynoure: I'm going to install ubuntu server edition over it, Will server-edition remove EVERYTHING?
[07:47] <captainron> i'm having issues getting the network connection going on my recent ubuntu server setup, dns works and pppoe doesn't help, anybody had same prob before?
[07:47] <PedroS> greig__: do you need some help instaling that driver?
[07:47] <Pollywog> greig__: make sure you add the user to the video and audio groups
[07:47] <Lynoure> nexousNET: if you tell it to repartition and format the whole disk, yeah
[07:47] <nexousNET> Lynoure: okay thanks.
[07:48] <greig__> i need help help and more help lol
[07:48] <Pollywog> and maybe webcam group as well
[07:48] <jazzi> Pollywog:  Thanks :)
[07:48] <delmar> anyone here know their way around Postfix? I've found a solution to a problem I am having, but im not understanding the implementation too well.
[07:48] <nexousNET> Also, Ubuntu Server Edition, can I still run 'sudo nano' to edit files and even have Bluefish?
[07:48] <tman_ubuntu> i need help
[07:49] <jazzi> is there any package installer except synaptic ? which one ubuntu support?
[07:49] <tman_ubuntu> lost my desktop.  please help
[07:49] <greig__> is there such a thing as remote assistance or similar with linux
[07:49] <briguyd> tman_ubuntu, what do you mean?
[07:49] <Pollywog> jazzi there are several
[07:50] <steve_> Lynoure: so the -28 kernel booted and launched my mythtv, so that's all working and good
[07:50] <tman_ubuntu> was changing my themes, then i got messages about gnome-panel erroring out.
[07:50] <Lynoure> steve_: That's good
[07:50] <chris_> I have backup of files in my wine program files, how do i move them to my desktop to allow them to be burnt?
[07:50] <jazzi> Pollywog:  tell me Some which one Ubuntu support?
[07:50] <steve_> Lynoure: the package manager can launch now too, but want's to install the -27 kernel
[07:50] <PedroS> greig__: what is the name of that driver? so you have some tutorial or something else to install it?
[07:50] <tman_ubuntu> did search on internet, said to delete the .gconf file to return to default.
[07:51] <Lynoure> steve_: wants to means what kind of text?
[07:51] <Pollywog> I am not sure if one other than apt is officially supported but ppl use apt, synaptic, and aptitude
[07:51] <tman_ubuntu> did that except that there's no more icons on desktop and lost right-click functionality.
[07:51] <greig__> Pedros__ driver is called sn9c101
[07:51] <Lynoure> steve_: you possibly have something depending on it
[07:51] <nexousNET> Can I have wireless with my Server Edition, and have it only Localhost? For a dev server?
[07:52] <briguyd> tman_ubuntu, did you restart your desktop manager after deleting the file?
[07:52] <Pollywog> and there is a new one called automatix but it is still experimental I think
[07:52] <riad> hello
[07:52] <robokop> Pollywog: don't forget adept for kde
[07:52] <Pollywog> I have used automatix a few times
[07:52] <tman_ubuntu> no.  logged out and back in but it didn't help.  how do i restart desktop manager?
[07:52] <LjL> !automatix | Pollywog
[07:52] <ubotu> Pollywog: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:52] <briguyd> tman_ubuntu, try doing control-alt-backspace
[07:52] <PedroS> greig__: I'm googling a bit to see if I can find something...
[07:52] <kompressor> Hey ive this problem im setting up a serial laplink and im getting a tcflush failed error because of a bad file descriptor what is this and how to fix this?
[07:52] <jancor> TEST MY SELF
[07:52] <Pollywog> LjL thanks
[07:53] <riad> does any one kow any thing about a BadGC parameter error?
[07:53] <jancor> he het werkt
[07:53] <chris_> I have backup of files in my wine program files, how do i move them to my desktop to allow them to be burnt?
[07:53] <steve_> Lynoure: ok.  i didn't touch the -27 files in the /boot partition (that was the kernel i was running)  but maybe it is a patch or something to the -27
[07:53] <greig__> Pedros__ I have found this... http://www.linux-projects.org/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=6
[07:53] <jazzi> Pollywog:  but Ubuntu not support it .. i think.
[07:53] <steve_> Lynoure: i'll find the exact test of the update notice...
[07:53] <tman_ubuntu> briguyd, is there a commandline I can try first?
[07:53] <Pollywog> yeah don't use automatix yet
[07:53] <briguyd> tman_ubuntu, why?
[07:53] <LjL> no, don't use it at all.
[07:53] <greig__> Pedros__ but as i say, i only installed ubuntu a few hours ago, im struggling aot
[07:53] <Pollywog> I have only used it a few times
[07:53] <IndyGunFreak> Pollywog: are you trying to get flogged?
[07:53] <tman_ubuntu> well i don't want to lose this chat session.
[07:53] <Lynoure> steve_: if it is long, remember pastebin
[07:54] <briguyd> tman_ubuntu, oh, i dont know
[07:54] <devtrash> Is there a simple way to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[07:54] <mage___> !timezone
[07:54] <briguyd> tman_ubuntu, you can save the text of the chat, then do it
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timezone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <jazzi> LjL:  is any other Ubuntu support ? except Synaptic.. i aint understand synaptic as well. so looking for another one
[07:54] <riad> hmm no one knows any about a BadGc parameter  error?
[07:54] <Pollywog> I mostly stick with apt-get
[07:55] <mage___> how am I supposed to set my timezone correctly?
[07:55] <bwlang> riad: try google
[07:55] <chris_> Well, how would i navigate .wine folder, in my explorer?
[07:55] <riad> I did
[07:55] <PedroS> greig__: this driver is for a webcam, right? what is the model of the webcam?
[07:55] <riad> got nothing
[07:55] <AnxiousCo> hello, I have a hard drive that I'm tryting to install on my new ubuntu machine that is from my old computer. It is only data (music, documents, video, etc), no OS or programs installed to it. I tried just putting it in my machine to see if ubuntu would just detect it and have it be usable, but it does not--how do I make it work?
[07:55] <bwlang> mage: right click on the clock adjust date and time
[07:55] <LjL> jazzi... the installation system is APT. it's standard. then there are frontends, and you can use the one you prefer: Synaptic, Add/Remove Programs, Adept, apt-get, aptitude...
[07:55] <tman_ubuntu> well here goes.  i'll see u in a minute if it doesn't work.
[07:55] <greig__> Pedros: webcam is a Trust spacecam 120
[07:56] <chris_> How would i navigate .wine folder, in my explorer?
[07:56] <mage___> heh im currently remote but i guess i'll have to do that when i get home
[07:56] <Pollywog> PedroS: does it work without too much trouble?
[07:56] <killermach> I need spanish chars from my keyboard when I create a doc in openoffice, googling hasn't produced anything, how do I do this?
[07:56] <Pollywog> the spacecam
[07:56] <Apreche> Is anyone here an expert on acpi and laptops and such? I'm trying to get the brightness buttons on my laptop to work.
[07:57] <jazzi> LjL:  if am looking a programe like for eg. trix or vlc player or whatever then how can i search ? like "sudo apt-get install trix" this is the right command?
[07:57] <TheVault> Apreche: You should have a blue FN button your keyboard
[07:57] <Pollywog> killermach: maybe #ubuntu-es  ?
[07:57] <chris_> How would i navigate .wine folder, in my explorer?
[07:57] <LjL> jazzi: type "apt-cache search trix" to search
[07:57] <Apreche> jazzi: you can search by doing apt-cache search searchstring
[07:57] <eXcAliBuR> Apreche: make sure to have all drivers installed and tools for ur model aswell
[07:57] <TheVault> Apreche: do you have a fn button on your keyboard?
[07:57] <briguyd> chris_, you have to show hidden folders
[07:57] <ep2011> Do I need to defrag again before installing ubuntu? http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/1969/fraggm9.png
[07:57] <LjL> !packages | jazzi
[07:57] <ubotu> jazzi: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:57] <bwlang> killermach: depends on how many... if you need just a few you could use the insert special character menu in oo... otherwise you need to reconfigure your keyboard i think.
[07:57] <AnxiousCo> can I do this with my hard drive or will it need formatted?
[07:57] <PedroS> Pollywog: I am not sure, but I think he just needs to compile the driver to get it working
[07:57] <Apreche> yes, I have the Fn button, and I have collected a lot of information about what is going on
[07:57] <AnxiousCo> excuse me, reformatted
[07:57] <riad> well, This BadGc (nvalid parameter) is a known error, that's what I gathered so far, but there's no fix for it?
[07:57] <chris_> briguyd, I thought it would be that, how do i do that?
[07:58] <jazzi> !apt > jazzi
[07:58] <AnxiousCo> !harddrive
[07:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:58] <Hansel> ep2011 - if you want to split a windows partition then yes... otherwise you dont need to defrag for linux.
[07:58] <AnxiousCo> !diskmounter
[07:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:58] <killermach> Pollywog: maybe.. except I'm doing the research for someone and I don't speak spanish
[07:58] <TheVault> Apreche: hold the fn button and find the buttons that look like a sun or something like that and your brightness should go up or down
[07:58] <Pollywog> PedroS: oh I thought you were saying that spacecam works for you
[07:58] <ep2011> Hansel - I already did defrag, and Yes I am splitting the partition, so I should defrag again?
[07:58] <Pollywog> killermach: oic
[07:58] <Apreche> thevault: I'm not that dumb. Trust me, it doesn't work
[07:58] <chris_> How do i allow myself to see hidden folders in home directory?
[07:58] <jazzi> LjL:  thanks man alot :) will look after that packages.. after Updates complete :)
[07:59] <Pollywog> chris ls-la
[07:59] <Pollywog> ls -la
[07:59] <Hansel> ep2011 - yes... it is always a good idea to defrag before splitting partitions
[07:59] <jazzi> !packages > jazzi
[07:59] <chris_> ls -la?
[07:59] <TheVault> Apreche: Thats weird cause I just did it on my laptop and it worked and i did not have to do configurations....you got all drivers installed?
[07:59] <ep2011> Hansel: I know that, but more than once is good?
[07:59] <Hansel> chris_ - from command line you ls -la... from nautilus push CTRL H I believe
[07:59] <Pollywog> yes if you are using the command line
[07:59] <Hansel> ep2011  -  yes...  :)
[07:59] <PedroS> Pollywog: nop, I'm just trying to help a new ubuntu user :)
[07:59] <Apreche> TheVault: Yes. Trust me, I've been using Linux for 6 years. This is a kernel-level ACPI problem.
[07:59] <tman_ubuntu> briguyd, duh.  i checked my xsession-error log and it showed an error with nautilus.  It was nautilus that need restarting.  i'll log out and back in and make sure it restarts on it's on now.
[08:00] <ep2011> Thank you Hansel.
[08:00] <Hansel> np
[08:00] <TheVault> Apreche: Alright then ya know what your doing. Iv been using Linux now for 3 weeks
[08:00] <briguyd> tman_ubuntu, cool
[08:00] <Pollywog> oh yes on Nautilus it is ctrl-H
[08:00] <Apreche> TheVault: lol
[08:00] <Pollywog> just learned that one myself
[08:00] <tman_ubuntu> i'll let u know what happens.
[08:00] <TheVault> Apreche: And three weeks without using Windows may I add :)
[08:00] <briguyd> chris_, in your file browser, hit control-H
[08:00] <TheVault> Apreche: Trying to make a full month without using Windows
[08:00] <AnxiousCo> "sudo fdisk -l" is this all I have to do to have have it detect the new HD?
[08:00] <ep2011> Hansel: If after this defrag all the freespace is together, then I should install?
[08:01] <killermach> bwlang: they want to translate their website
[08:01] <Hansel> I have been using Linux for about 10 years.  I have been completely Windows-free at home (at work I have to use it) for about 6 months now.
[08:01] <Lamego> AnxiousCo, that is to check if the disk was detected, not to detect it
[08:01] <Hansel> ep2011 - yup.
[08:01] <steve_> Lynoure: i guess i dont mind if it puts it back to fulfull a dependancy, as long as it doesn't take out the -28 kernel and start the problem again
[08:01] <TheVault> Hansel: Congrats :)
[08:01] <AnxiousCo> hmm, how do I detect it?
[08:01] <ep2011> Thanks.
[08:01] <Apreche> So, does anyone here know how acpi stuff works?
[08:01] <Lamego> it should be "detected" by the kernel during the system boot
[08:01] <Hansel> AnxiousCo,  - do you want to mount the new drive every time you boot?
[08:01] <greig__> does linux have some kind or remote access built into it to allow someone to access and control my pc?
[08:02] <Lamego> do you see it listed on fdisk ?
[08:02] <Hansel> AnxiousCo, if so then you need to make an /etc/fstab entry.
[08:02] <TheVault> I myself finally, after weeks of playing around on the LIVE CD, I got my WIFI to work with my broadcom chipset
[08:02] <Lamego> Hansel, he is not sure the disk is available yet
[08:02] <ICQnumber> hi ppl, where can i find any examples how to use streamripper?
[08:02] <AnxiousCo> I want the drive to just be readable, all it is is music and video files and school files
[08:02] <soundray> greig__: not Linux per se, but ubuntu does.
[08:02] <AnxiousCo> so do I want it to read it every boot time?
[08:02] <steve_> but i guess the best solution woudl be to find out if something needs -27 and maybe get rid of that prog
[08:02] <ICQnumber> i just have tried kstreamripper, but it was not working for me
[08:02] <greig__> sorry yes i ment ubuntu
[08:02] <bwlang> killermach: well.. probably they'll want to change their keyboard then. system->prefs->keyboard
[08:03] <Lamego> AnxiousCo, google :) ?
[08:03] <soundray> greig__: it's configured through System-Preferences-Remote Desktop
[08:03] <Hansel> AnxiousCo, try to mount /dev/hda1, hda2, etc... to /mnt/testdrive          mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/pleasework        if you want you can pass a -t ntfs if it is a Windows drive...
[08:03] <Lamego> ops, i meant ICQnumber
[08:03] <TheVault> I got a question. Is anyone elses wireless a bit slow when using wireless?
[08:03] <AnxiousCo> this is what my sudo fdisk -l says, tell me if it should be working please
[08:03] <Hansel> TheVault - that might be a bit vague to answer... "a bit slow" is difficult to gauge.
[08:03] <AnxiousCo> "/dev/hda1   *           1        4678    37576003+  83  Linux
[08:03] <AnxiousCo> "/dev/hda2            4679        4865     1502077+   5  Extended
[08:04] <TheVault> Hansel: hmmm you got a good point on that
[08:04] <Lamego> AnxiousCo, you you have a single disk with 2 partitions
[08:04] <oopsy> hey
[08:04] <AnxiousCo> "/dev/hda5            4679        4865     1502046   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[08:04] <AnxiousCo> thats it
[08:04] <TheVault> Hansel: Like for downloads, its really slow here in ubuntu for downloading, but on windows its fast
[08:04] <oopsy> did anyone installed the native linux drivers for Ralink here?
[08:04] <eXcAliBuR> i need some help getting apache-ant on my Ubuntu Server
[08:04] <Pollywog> oopsy: yes
[08:04] <oopsy> Pollywog
[08:05] <Pollywog> rt2500 is what I use
[08:05] <oopsy> you needed qtX something right?
[08:05] <oopsy> just like mine!! D:
[08:05] <TheVault> Hansel: So I guess I should ask, is downloads usually slow in wireless when using ubuntu?
[08:05] <oopsy> but I can't get it to work
[08:05] <zafod77> Hey guys has anyone ever had sudo give die on them? I run things as sudo, it prompts for a password, the password is correct but if fails to run the command any thoughts?
[08:05] <AnxiousCo> so is that bad? it is not detecting the second HD only the master?
[08:05] <AnxiousCo> and the master has two partitions?
[08:05] <Pollywog> I used a howto on the ubuntu site
[08:05] <ep2011> Hansel: Since you were so helpful, for a newbie with Ubuntu, only playing around a little with it, would 7 Gb for / and 15 for /home and 1 for /swap be good?
[08:06] <greig__> i know this isnt the safest way to sort a issue i have out, but would anyone want to remote access my comp to install a web cam for me? Thats the only way i'll get this i think lol
[08:06] <Dumahen> !nvidia
[08:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:06] <Lamego> ep2011, /home depends on the data you expect to have :)
[08:06] <zafod77> Where is the config file for groups? I think I may have mucked up and messed up the admin line so I can't run sudo
[08:06] <Hansel> ep2011 - if you are brand new to Linux I recommend 15 gigs and just let it partition for you... it does a good job of "guessing" appropriate sizes.
[08:06] <PedroS> greig: i am trying to talk to you in private
[08:06] <Lamego> 7 GB / is ok for a regular system install
[08:06] <TheVault> greig_: That sounds better than reading lol
[08:06] <Hansel> ep2011 - I just recommend that you keep an external drive as well for all of your music and files in case you have to reinstall (most new linux users prefer a reinstall than diagnosing and fixing)
[08:06] <greig__> oh i didnt get the messages sorry
[08:06] <AnxiousCo> so what should I search for keyword wise to find out how to make the second HD work?
[08:07] <ep2011> Hansel: Not brand new, I have it on my powerbook, just new to using it more than once in awile, im installing it on my main computer
[08:07] <Lynoure> steve_: well, depending on what depends on it, you could prolly remove both
[08:07] <TheVault> Whats better, Xchat or Gaim?
[08:07] <Hansel> AnxiousCo, it could be hdb1, hdc1, etc... although hdc is usually cd drives
[08:07] <Lynoure> steve_: I mean, also the thing that depends on it.
[08:07] <AlexC_> TheVault: they do differnt things really, xChat is not better for MSN or AIM for example
[08:07] <ep2011> Lamego: The problem with how much I need for /home is I don't know how often I am going to end up using it, If I can get my wireless working, Ill need a lot, if not, I probally wont need much
[08:07] <PirateHead> Lmego: 7GB ought to be fine for a normal system install.
[08:07] <tailsfan92> barry
[08:07] <lynucs> hey, guys, maybe anyone can help me.. as soon as my processor is swithcing from 800MHZ to 1600MHZ and vice versa, my ubuntu hngs for 3 secs! what might i do?? that happened with every kernel except 2.6.15 which came with dapper.. now i'm using edgy.
[08:07] <AlexC_> TheVault: but for IRC, I would say xChat
[08:07] <PirateHead> Lamego: you probably weren't asking. Sorry. =D
[08:08] <soundray> ep2011: your partitioning plan sounds fine to me
[08:08] <AnxiousCo> how do I see if it is reading the drive then? is there a file exporer?
[08:08] <kitsuneofdoom> 
[08:08] <PirateHead> AnxiousCo: nautilus?
[08:08] <MisterN> lynucs: disable frequency switching?
[08:08] <Hansel> TheVault - agreed... IRC = XChat... IMing = gAIM.
[08:08] <Hansel> those are my preferred apps.
[08:08] <Lamego> :P
[08:08] <ep2011> Okay, Thank you soundray
[08:08] <lynucs> MisterN, that isn't what i wanted to hear :D
[08:08] <soundray> AnxiousCo: if fdisk doesn't see your drive, no file manager will
[08:08] <TheVault> Hansel: Alrighty, but I'm on IRC right now(duh lol) using Gaim and its sweet
[08:08] <PirateHead> TheVault: neither! ChatZilla is the best by far in my experience.
[08:08] <MisterN> lynucs: is this a laptop?
[08:08] <lynucs> yes
[08:09] <Atraeyu> Anyone know how to make gaim automatically join #ubuntu on startup?
[08:09] <TheVault> PirateHead: LOVE chatzilla
[08:09] <MisterN> lynucs: yeah then this would suck :)
[08:09] <AnxiousCo> so fdisk is not seeing the drive?
[08:09] <TheVault> But thats when your using the browser though
[08:09] <tailsfan92> I have a problem
[08:09] <AnxiousCo> hmm, what should I look up "how to mount second hard drive?"
[08:09] <CheshireViking> TheVault, I 'd agree about xchat for irc, but i prefer Kopete for msn - gaim & aMSN don't work with my webcam
[08:09] <Hansel> TheVault - different strokes for different folks.  Whatever is clever... don't use apps based on others opinions.  :)  You will end up ping ponging back and forth between emacs and vi if you listen to other opinions all day.
[08:09] <tailsfan92> I have a problem
[08:09] <tailsfan92> eed time to figurwe it out
[08:09] <TheVault> Hansel: Yup, your right. But I find Gaim better than the windows trillian
[08:10] <mrebola> the esp ubuntu chanel what is excuse me?
[08:10] <PirateHead> AnxiousCo: did you just put a new hard drive into your box, or what?
[08:10] <AnxiousCo> yes
[08:10] <AlexC_> mrebola: #ubuntu-es ?
[08:10] <TheVault> Hansel: But like ya said, different programs for differ people :P
[08:10] <ep2011> !spanish
[08:10] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:10] <mrebola> thankz alexC
[08:10] <mrebola> !spanish
[08:11] <AnxiousCo> was I incorrect in doing so? I cannot find how to do it in the forums
[08:11] <soundray> AnxiousCo: have you set the jumpers on the new drive to configure it as slave?
[08:11] <guthos> fala povo
[08:11] <TheVault> Heres another problem that I'm kinda having. When I type, sometimes my thumbs hit the touchpad causing the text to jump somewhere else or mess me up on typing, anyway to fix this?
[08:11] <AlexC_> TheVault: cut off you're thumb
[08:12] <AnxiousCo> yes, it was a slave in my first machine
[08:12] <AlexC_> TheVault: or download the latest patch to shorten you're thumb
[08:12] <TheVault> AlexC_: I could
[08:12] <Cryptid> i want to record every thing that is happening on the desktop (i am trying to make a video tutorial) please tell me which software will help me do this
[08:12] <TheVault> AlexC_: Your the funny one today lol
[08:12] <Hansel> TheVault - I recommend you set aside a full weekend and just test EVERY app you can get your hands on.  I found a bunch of cool stuff... Griffith for managing my video collection, I figured out OpenVPN one day, tinkered with Cinelerra... there are tons out there  :)
[08:12] <AlexC_> TheVault: lol, well there is not much you can do really
[08:13] <soundray> TheVault: have a look at tpconfig and gsynaptics
[08:13] <ep2011> Hansel, do you have experience with helping me get my Linksys WUSB54Gv2 working once ubuntu is installed?
[08:13] <soundray> TheVault: you can disable the touchpad when it's not in use
[08:13] <kheaslett> Hi you guys.  I'm having the error 17 message from grub after installing 6.06.  I know what the error message means but I'm not sure on how to fix it.  I think it's within the bios
[08:13] <TheVault> soundray: Will those programs help?
[08:13] <AnxiousCo> so what could it be? should I set up the second HD as master (unplug the first master) and just run linux live to see if it reads?
[08:13] <Cryptid> I need a desktop recording software!!!
[08:13] <Hansel> ep2011 - sure... we might even be able to flash it with OpenWRT (a Linux-based firmware) lol
[08:13] <AlexC_> Cryptid: then wait more than 5 mins
[08:13] <AlexC_> soundray: wouldn't that get very annoying? Having to disable and enable it every time you wanted to use it ??
[08:14] <ep2011> Hansel - only problem is that is wouldn't it not work on windows then?
[08:14] <ep2011> Hansel - I'm dual booting
[08:14] <TheVault> soundray: YAY, That Gsynaptics looks to be my answer :)
[08:14] <Hansel> ep2011 - nah... its just the operating system that the router uses... it will work with any OS  :)
[08:14] <soundray> AlexC_: you clearly have no idea how annoying a touchpad can be if you keep hitting it accidentally ;)
[08:14] <Hansel> I use my OpenWRT Linksys for my work computer which runs Windows and my home computers which are all Linux and FreeBSD.
[08:15] <danieleboyo> hi im having some dual boot trouble...my other os is perfoming at sub par
[08:15] <TheVault> soundray: Yes indeed. Thanks for the find :)
[08:15] <Apreche> Nobody knows how to get laptop brightness buttons to work if the kernel eats the ACPI signal?
[08:15] <kheaslett> Can someone help me with GRUB error 17?
[08:15] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, around?
[08:15] <ep2011> Hansel - how easy is it to do?
[08:15] <soundray> TheVault: hope your tp is compatible with it
[08:15] <AlexC_> soundray: I don't own a laptop so I can't say really. but having to manually disable and enable it would surely be more annoying?
[08:15] <TheVault> soundray: tp?
[08:15] <AlexC_> touchpad
[08:15] <Hansel> ep2011 - very easy.  :)  Assuming your router is supported...
[08:15] <tailsfan92> hey
[08:15] <AnxiousCo>  b) to have the drive mounted at boot, you'll have to add it to /etc/fstab
[08:15] <AlexC_> tailsfan92: hey
[08:15] <TheVault> AlexC_: Thanks
[08:15] <AnxiousCo> what does that mean?
[08:15] <tailsfan92>  Mesa won't work, version of Ubuntu, the specific error
[08:15] <soundray> AlexC_: I don't think so. You could even assign a toggling hotkey
[08:15] <tailsfan92> I have GLX problems
[08:15] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - i fixed it now. Got beryl running with lates kernel. Using the nvidia drivers within the apt-getinstall.
[08:16] <ep2011> Hansel - Is there a page to check if it is? like a list of supported routers?
[08:16] <AlexC_> AnxiousCo: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:16] <Hansel> kheaslett, you might want to try #grub
[08:16] <TheVault> soundray: Well my touchpad is a Synaptics Touchpad, so it should work right?
[08:16] <AlexC_> !mount | AnxiousCo
[08:16] <Hansel> ep2011 - yup...
[08:16] <ubotu> AnxiousCo: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:16] <kheaslett> oh sorry thanks though
[08:16] <ep2011> Hansel - Can you link me?
[08:16] <AnxiousCo> I dont think that's what I need to do, is it?
[08:16] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: ahh hrmm.  i did forget that feisty had a fix for that in the repositories
[08:16] <Hansel> http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware?action=show&redirect=toh
[08:16] <soundray> AnxiousCo: if fdisk doesn't see your drive, you have a hardware problem to solve first.
[08:16] <tailsfan92> are you listening to me
[08:16] <greig_> oops, hit the off button
[08:16] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: congrats on figuring it out though
[08:16] <AnxiousCo> hmm
[08:16] <AnxiousCo> how do I know if fdisk is showing it?
[08:16] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight :)
[08:17] <Cryptid> AlexC_: will u please help me now ?
[08:17] <AnxiousCo> is this because the drive was used in a windows machine?
[08:17] <soundray> tailsfan92: we're waiting for a description of your problem. Be precise, and say what you've tried so far.
[08:17] <AlexC_> tailsfan92: excuse me? =) How do you expect us to help if all you say is "I have GLX Problems"
[08:17] <tailsfan92> sorry
[08:17] <soundray> AnxiousCo: no
[08:17] <xtknight> Poul^Laptop: sounds like feisty might be for you after all.  i haven't been too ambitious today to tell you the truth so i was sorta hoping you'd just give up and go back to edgy :P
[08:17] <AlexC_> Cryptid: with what?
[08:17] <AnxiousCo> because that would mean I'd have to reformat it.... The main reason I want to use it is because of the data on it
[08:17] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight - its just about getting the xorg config configured right, els its realy hard to get it working
[08:17] <AnxiousCo> hmm
[08:17] <tailsfan92> I try an app like blender, and it gives me that error message
[08:17] <danieleboyo> im having some dual boot problems, my second os is performing really subpar
[08:17] <Hansel> Cryptid, I recommend xvidcap.. http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/
[08:17] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, i will take it as a compliment :PPP
[08:18] <AnxiousCo> and it's none of these? /dev/hda1   *           1        4678    37576003+  83  Linux
[08:18] <AnxiousCo> /dev/hda2            4679        4865     1502077+   5  Extended
[08:18] <AnxiousCo> /dev/hda5            4679        4865     1502046   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[08:18] <tailsfan92> u talking to me?
[08:18] <ep2011> Hansel - It isn't supported :\
[08:18] <Cryptid> Hansel: will that record everythig that is happening on the screen ?
[08:18] <Hansel> Cryptid - sure will.
[08:18] <AlexC_> tailsfan92: normally if someone is talking to you, they prefix it with you're name.
[08:18] <soundray> AnxiousCo: do not paste stuff like that in here. It's considered spamming/flooding.
[08:18] <tailsfan92> AlexG okay
[08:18] <Cryptid> Hansel: thanx will check it out
[08:18] <tailsfan92> I'm new
[08:19] <ep2011> Hansel - Any other ideas since it isn't supported?
[08:19] <TheVault> soundray: So ya think I should download and install gsynaptics then?
[08:19] <Poul^Laptop> xtknight, funny tho. I am not sure, but almost positive that i was able to run ~1400x900  with 60hz before, but it wont let me sellect 60hz now :PP
[08:19] <danieleboyo> im having some dual boot problems, my second os is performing really subpar
[08:19] <soundray> TheVault: yeah, why not?
[08:19] <Poul^Laptop> but guess i will survive that my beryl working
[08:19] <AnxiousCo> but i am trying to find out what my problem is... it was data
[08:19] <TheVault> soundray: alrighty, I'm going for it
[08:19] <Hansel> ep2011 - nah.  Just use the default firmware  :)
[08:19] <TheVault> soundray: Thanks again :)
[08:20] <greig_> still with me?
[08:20] <Hansel> greig?
[08:20] <_`XeOn_> hello how do i give r/w permition to a folder that is created by root?
[08:20] <greig_> oops that was ment as a private message
[08:20] <PirateHead> AnxiousCo: if you are pasting 3 or more lines of text, you ought to use paste.ubuntu-nl.org -- I think you were okay pasting what you pasted there, but some users will object.
[08:20] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: what folder?
[08:21] <_`XeOn_> is not a folder is a document
[08:21] <Hansel> _`XeOn_, sudo chmod 777 /the/spot/file
[08:21] <_`XeOn_> in /usr/bin/
[08:21] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: why say folder then :P
[08:21] <Poul^Laptop> Anyone got solution or alternativ application for speeking with friends over ventrilo, without having to use those windows emulations
[08:21] <Hansel> XeOn - that will give full access to everybody... bad idea but will get things done  :)
[08:21] <eck> _`XeOn_: do not chmod that directory
[08:21] <x386> hello *
[08:21] <PirateHead> _`XeOn_: you can use sudo to access it , and/or chmod it to your user.
[08:21] <eck> that is a very bad idea
[08:21] <PirateHead> Hello, x386
[08:21] <soundray> AnxiousCo: what you pasted means that fdisk sees one drive, no more.
[08:21] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: but like eck said - do not chmod /usr/bin
[08:22] <PirateHead> _`XeOn_: /usr/bin is a bad choice for chmod. =D
[08:22] <Hansel> /usr/bin/$file  <--- chmod that where $file is the file you want.
[08:22] <soundray> AnxiousCo: check your BIOS setup to see if that registers the drive. Also, answer my question about jumpers. Use my nick to prefix the answer.
[08:22] <x386> anybody has suggestion for CD/DVD cataloguing sw which runs OK on 6.10 and has archive browsing support?
[08:22] <_`XeOn_> the thing is my config file for eggdrop is in /usr/bin/eggdrop.conf
[08:22] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: actually ... why is a document in /usr/bin?? would a document normally be in you're home folder
[08:22] <greig_> ahh i was chatting to someone and i cant find them now about installing my cam.
[08:22] <eck> _`XeOn_: that is the wrong place for a config file, it should be in /etc
[08:22] <PirateHead> _`XeOn_: Just use "gksudo gedit /usr/bin/eggdrop.conf"
[08:22] <AnxiousCo> soundray: the newly added harddrive was already set up as slave on the windows machine... so it is set as slave
[08:22] <Hansel> XeOn - you can cp it to /home/user/eggdrop/eggdrop.conf  and then when you invoke eggdrop just pass it the switch to use your /home directory conf
[08:22] <greig_> linux takes a lot to get everything set up huh
[08:23] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: then to edit it, in terminal do gksudo gedit /usr/bin/eggdrop.cof ... doh PirateHead beat me!
[08:23] <soundray> AnxiousCo: okay, have you checked the BIOS or bootup messages?
[08:23] <AlexC_> greig_: I take it you've never installed Windows! =D
[08:23] <PirateHead> AlexC_: a winrar is me.
[08:23] <Hansel> greig_, it can... especially if you want things to be like how your Windows box was.  If you are willing to accept that it wont act exactly like Windows and you try different things or even just get used to the default it is very quick  :)
[08:23] <eck> _`XeOn_: maybe you should read the man page for 'hier'
[08:23] <AlexC_> PirateHead: lol you're a winrar?
[08:23] <AnxiousCo> soundray: typically the boot up messages occur before my monitor even flips on... what should I be looking for in my BIOS?
[08:23] <_`XeOn_> yes but how do i make eggdrop.sh find the new location for .conf
[08:24] <greig_> AlexC__: windows is all done for u, thats my downfall lol
[08:24] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: keep the config file where it is for now - but just edit it
[08:24] <Hansel> greig_, if you want to get the base OS installed, configure all of your apps, install and configure beryl, etc it can take a solid day...
[08:24] <soundray> AnxiousCo: something that lists your IDE drives
[08:24] <PirateHead> AlexC_: it's a mutation of "A winner is you!", a famous japanese to english pseudo-translation.
[08:24] <AlexC_> greig_: exactly my point - you don't know how much work you have to do to a fresh Windows install ... it's much more work than Linux
[08:24] <eck> _`XeOn_: is this a script that you are trying to run as a user, and the config does not have o+r permissions?
[08:24] <_`XeOn_> yes
[08:24] <_`XeOn_> eck, thats correct
[08:25] <AnxiousCo> so if it does not list the second IDE drive, it is a hardware failure or something else erroneous relating to the drive?
[08:25] <snaidis> Hi
[08:25] <eck> then you need to move the script to a location readable by regular users,not open up some part of your filesystem to reading by everyone
[08:25] <x386> anybody has suggestion for CD/DVD cataloging SW which runs OK on 6.10 and has archive browsing support?
[08:25] <eck> try ~/.eggdrop.conf or something like that
[08:25] <AlexC_> PirateHead: oh right :P I love how things get 'lost in translation'
[08:25] <snaidis> Having little problems with Envy
[08:25] <eck> the program ashould have documentation for how to do that
[08:25] <AnxiousCo> soundray: so if it does not list the second IDE drive, it is a hardware failure or something else erroneous relating to the drive?
[08:25] <hateyla> i want to make a shorcut for a app on desktop how can i create a shortcut? on terminal when i type " trix" App opened but i want to create shortcut on desktop?
[08:25] <AlexC_> hateyla: right click -> Create Launcher
[08:25] <Hansel> hateyla - depends on your window manager... are you using gnome?
[08:25] <greig_> I just wish i could figure out how to install a driver for my web cam and i'd be happy lol
[08:25] <snaidis> every time i'm restarting the computer the resolusion changes
[08:26] <_`XeOn_> let me see
[08:26] <ochosi> hi, i have a question about wine. i compiled the latest alsa-driver from source and now i get an error whenever i start a game (e.g. error8815 generic...). any idea how to fix that?
[08:26] <hateyla> Hansel:  ya i m using GNOME
[08:26] <ochosi> oh, and of course i don't have any sound in the games
[08:26] <Hansel> ochosi - go to www.winehq.org and see if for that application/game they have info on that error.
[08:26] <hateyla> AlexC: right Click ? where on terminal lol ?
[08:26] <soundray> AnxiousCo: hardware failure, BIOS incompatibility, wrong jumper setting, loose cable...
[08:26] <PirateHead> greig_: web cam drivers are notoriously shaky. I hope you get lucky. :-)
[08:26] <AlexC_> hateyla: in the command put the name of the program - eg, "firefox" no quotes
[08:26] <AlexC_> hateyla: nono - on the desktop
[08:26] <CheshireViking> greig_, which webcam do you have?
[08:26] <Hansel> hateyla, then yes, as was previously stated then right click on your desktop in a blank area and choose Create launcher
[08:26] <ochosi> Hansel been there, done that, got the t-shirt :)
[08:26] <soundray> AnxiousCo: possibly even a wrong cable
[08:27] <greig_> cheshireviking:Trust spacecam 120
[08:27] <_`XeOn_> eck, if my eggdrop.sh is in /usr/bin/ how do i make it find the config file in /home/user/
[08:27] <soundray> ubotu, please tell greig_ about webcam
[08:27] <Andeh> Hello
[08:27] <AnxiousCo> soundray: ok thanks. Are there two different settings for Master jumper? (master with no other hard drives, and a master that allows a slave?)
[08:27] <greig_> PirtateHead: as i have no idea about ubuntu.linux, then i have no chance lol
[08:27] <hateyla> Hansel: there is tab Command what i typed there?
[08:27] <Hansel> XeOn - eggdrop --help        it should give you a list of possible parameters to pass... maybe eggdrop -c /home/user/eggdrop.conf
[08:27] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: you're best of not moving the config file. But just edit it with "gksudo gedit /usr/bin/eggdrop.conf"
[08:27] <PirateHead> !webcam | greig_
[08:27] <ubotu> greig_: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:27] <B|nTaRa> !proxy
[08:27] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[08:27] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[08:27] <AnxiousCo> !sound
[08:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:28] <snaidis> Anyone?
[08:28] <Hansel> hateyla - in the command you type the program name... like for example if you want gimp then type gimp there. :)
[08:28] <CheshireViking> greig_, maybe this website will help you - http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/devices.shtml it lists a couple of Trust webcams
[08:28] <snaidis> I installed Envy
[08:28] <msgmikeh> should I use ext3 or ext2?
[08:28] <Hansel> I prefer ext3
[08:28] <hateyla> Hansel: i m new user i dont know much about commands.. i just know i have GNOME.
[08:28] <soundray> AnxiousCo: yes, some drives do have two different settings (slave present/no slave), but they are becoming rare
[08:28] <void^> msgmikeh: use ext3
[08:28] <Hansel> hateyla - what program do you want an icon for on your desktop?
[08:28] <greig_> I shall read all those links, thank you all!
[08:28] <snaidis> And set the resoultion to 1024X1028
[08:28] <B|nTaRa> how i wanna set proxy conenction for my xubuntu ?
[08:28] <robokop> msgmikeh: ext3 is ext2 + journalling so ext3
[08:28] <B|nTaRa> !network
[08:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:28] <eck> _`XeOn_: i think you should have installed it to your home directory
[08:28] <snaidis> but it always changes after restart to 1024X768
[08:28] <Sam__> how well does wine actually work?
[08:29] <eck> _`XeOn_: did you compile it yourself?
[08:29] <Sam__> is it slow
[08:29] <hateyla> Hansel : App name is " trix "
[08:29] <Hansel> hateyla - then type that in the commandline.
[08:29] <PirateHead> hateyla: getting used to entering commands at the terminal will be very beneficial when you run into problems with Linux. Don't be afraid to try things out.
[08:29] <snaidis> anyone?
[08:29] <AlexC_> !anyone | snaidis
[08:29] <ubotu> snaidis: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:29] <robokop> my xubuntu hasn't found my soundcard
[08:29] <Hansel> snaidis, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set the default resolution to whatever you want.  (need to do this as root - ie; sudo)
[08:29] <hateyla> Piratedhead: thanks for advice :) ya i want to used too with terminal :)
[08:30] <soundray> AnxiousCo: if you have an extra cable, try connecting your drive to the second IDE channel. This tends to be better for throughput, anyway. You may have to disconnect your CDROM unfortunately.
[08:30] <B|nTaRa> !install
[08:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:30] <eck> _`XeOn_: also, i just looked at the documentation, and there is an option to specify where your configuration file is
[08:30] <eck> it is -m
[08:30] <robokop> my xubuntu hasn't found my soundcard, what could i do to fix that
[08:30] <CheshireViking> greig_, I just remembered, I ended up using an app/script called "Easycam" to get my webcam working - I think it's included in Synaptic if that helps
[08:30] <Dreamxtreme2> buy a new card
[08:30] <hateyla> !automatix > hateyla
[08:30] <AlexC_> B|nTaRa: please next time message the bot you're self instead of flooding the bot with random bot commands, do !install < B|nTaRa instead please
[08:30] <kaiden> Anyone know of a faster apt-get mirror for ubuntu updates? ubuntu.com barely touches 5k/s for me :(
[08:31] <Andeh> How do i compile stuff on ubuntu? the make command doesnt work
[08:31] <AlexC_> B|nTaRa: woops I mean !install > B|nTaRa
[08:31] <kaiden> i've tried both the us one and the ca one
[08:31] <B|nTaRa> AlexC_, thank you
[08:31] <eck> Andeh: you need to install build-essential
[08:31] <AlexC_> Andeh: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:31] <Hansel> kaiden - google for ubuntu repository.. there are tons.
[08:31] <Andeh> Thanks
[08:31] <cyber_cop> hi channel
[08:31] <AlexC_> morning internet,
[08:31] <_`XeOn_> eck, i downloaded the eggdrop in .deb cuz my computer is not compiling dunno why
[08:31] <Hansel> Andeh - you need to install a compiler.  Google for ubuntu C compiler
[08:31] <soundray> AnxiousCo: in any case, I hope you can get it going. I'm logging off now, but do ask the channel again if you can't.
[08:31] <kaiden> Hansel, was just worried that some of them may not be up to date
[08:32] <Hansel> Andeh - but once you get that installed its a matter of         ./configure && make && make install
[08:32] <eck> _`XeOn_: you probbaly did it wrong :-P
[08:32] <Andeh> It says i have it
[08:32] <Andeh> but when i use make it says make command not found...?
[08:32] <eck> _`XeOn_: anyway, try using the -m option
[08:32] <AlexC_> Andeh: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:32] <greig_> CheshireViking : I actually have installed easycam2 but when i load the app it says no device found
[08:32] <Hansel> Andeh - install gcc
[08:32] <thcmonkey> how is feisty any different to edgy?
[08:32] <Andeh> It says i already have build essentials!
[08:32] <ep2011> Err, Disk Defrager just froze 3 times in a row...
[08:32] <Andeh> ok never mind
[08:33] <_`XeOn_> eck, i tryed diferent compile and nothing but some programs compile right away
[08:33] <eck> make is provided by the make package, _not_ by gcc
[08:33] <AlexC_> thcmonkey: latest software, loads of back end changes, easier to use, much easier to install codecs, wireless and ATI/nVidia drivers, for more Feisty talk go in #ubuntu+1
[08:33] <AnxiousCo> !players
[08:33] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:33] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: you could install Blootbot - another IRC bot,
[08:33] <eck> _`XeOn_: did you get an error in the ./configure part?
[08:33] <Hansel> I prefer VLC... for all videos and sound files.
[08:33] <PirateHead> thcmonkey: There are many differences, You can find more information on the Ubuntu wiki, or ask in #ubuntu+1 about something in particular and see if anybody has details.
[08:33] <CheshireViking> greig_, rite, i can't remember whether i had to do anything else to get mine working, mine is a creative nx webcam
[08:33] <AnxiousCo> !mp3
[08:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:33] <_`XeOn_> eck, is not the config
[08:34] <cyber_cop> hi channel
[08:34] <hateyla> can i get all terminal cmds with description?
[08:34] <cyber_cop> my language Turkish
[08:34] <thcmonkey> cool cheers
[08:34] <Hansel> hateyla - man commandname
[08:34] <cyber_cop> help please
[08:34] <Andeh> Has anyone here ever used Xen virtual machine? I am currently compiling it from a source i downloaded
[08:34] <AlexC_> AnxiousCo: please private message the bot,
[08:34] <_`XeOn_> eck, is a tcl that needs to read config file
[08:34] <hateyla> i want to learn more about cmds and about used
[08:34] <jason_> hello all.. first time ubuntu user..  very rusty linux user
[08:34] <cyber_cop> install AMSN 0.9.2
[08:34] <AlexC_> cyber_cop: you've asked no question.
[08:34] <cyber_cop> problem
[08:34] <eck> hateyla: you want _all_ of them? man -k ".*"
[08:34] <PirateHead> hateyla: to get a detailed description of any command, run the command "man the-command". This includes "man man"
[08:34] <Andeh> Wow this compiling thing is fun
[08:34] <greig_> CheshireViking : im just looking up some info, my problem is once i get the drivers i still dont know how to install them, lol
[08:34] <AlexC_> PirateHead: man man? lol
[08:34] <Andeh> :-D
[08:35] <cyber_cop> AMSN pakgace intalled
[08:35] <_`XeOn_> eck, but since config is in root it cant be read so the bot doesnt start
[08:35] <PirateHead> hateyla: don't do what eck suggested. It's a pretty bad idea.
[08:35] <hateyla> Hansel: i said to you i m new :S i dont know the commands .. if i dont know the commands then how can i get info it through man :)
[08:35] <cyber_cop> console command please
[08:35] <AlexC_> PirateHead: sudo apt-get install sudo  E: package sudo not found
[08:35] <eck> _`XeOn_: copy it to your home directory and use the -m option
[08:35] <PirateHead> AlexC_: How will you ever get sudo installed???
[08:35] <Andeh> I am looking for a GAIM alternative with support for as many MSN features as possible, like webcam and audio.
[08:35] <Andeh> What's a good one to use?
[08:35] <eck> PirateHead: what is wrong with that?
[08:35] <AlexC_> PirateHead: :P
[08:35] <Poul^Laptop> wonder if i should try out all the crap with wine for running wow
[08:35] <_`XeOn_> eck what if i move eggdrop.sh to home folder?
[08:36] <cyber_cop> amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package install HELP
[08:36] <Poul^Laptop> guess thats the only way to do so
[08:36] <jason_> has anyone here installed Uplink the game?
[08:36] <cyber_cop> console command please
[08:36] <Hackmo> Andeh, check out amsn
[08:36] <PirateHead> eck: running man -k ".*" is a really big operation, and I'm sure it's not something that would be helpful to a newbie.
[08:36] <taigeR_`> I'll soon find out
[08:36] <cyber_cop> packgace from desktop
[08:36] <eck> _`XeOn_: sure, but you still need to know where it is looking for the config, it might be hardcoded into the shell script
[08:36] <Andeh> AMSN, does it support webcam?
[08:36] <AlexC_> yes
[08:36] <AlexC_> I think :P
[08:36] <Hackmo> Andeh, it's a bit slower than gaim tbh but it supports webcams and look a lot more like msn
[08:36] <Hackmo> yeah it does
[08:36] <Hackmo> definitely
[08:36] <Hackmo> I use it
[08:36] <eck> _`XeOn_: are you familiar with any shell scripting?
[08:36] <CheshireViking> greig_, ok, i'll leave you to it - good luck, i had problems with canorama freezing the computer
[08:36] <thcmonkey> do i need to download a dvd codec for ubuntu?
[08:37] <_`XeOn_> eck, it looks in the same directory where .sh is
[08:37] <MostKnown53> hey i have a question how is ubuntu compared with kubuntu
[08:37] <cyber_cop> support please
[08:37] <eck> _`XeOn_: yeah, then copying it to your home directory should be fine
[08:37] <PirateHead> Poul^Laptop: getting it working under Cedega is reportedly easier, and if you're a frequent linux gamer, you might want to check it out.
[08:37] <PirateHead> Poul^Laptop: It's a wine-like compatability layer designed totally for gaming.
[08:37] <AlexC_> MostKnown53: Ubuntu uses Gnome as it's Desktop Environment, Kubuntu uses KDe
[08:38] <Poul^Laptop> piratehead - ok, i am just not sure if i wanna use time on getting it to work.
[08:38] <MostKnown53> i know about the different gui but how are the communitys for both
[08:38] <ep2011> Err... HELP.. Windows isn't booting now, its stuck at the welcome screen after I defragged...
[08:38] <AlexC_> MostKnown53: personally I prefer Gnome for it's simplicity, others perfer KDE because you can customize it more. Some like tea some like coffee - try both and see what is best for you
[08:38] <buddha> isnt kubuntu kinda kde and gnome combined?
[08:38] <AlexC_> ep2011: this is Ubuntu support, not Windows
[08:38] <Andeh> lol
[08:38] <B|nTaRa> how i wanna set my connectio to use proxy instead of direct connect
[08:38] <AlexC_> buddha: Kubuntu is just Ubuntu without Gnome and with KDE instead,
[08:38] <ep2011> AlexC_: I know, but I was told to defrag again at this channel
[08:38] <Poul^Laptop> Speeking of Amsn, is kmess not decent aswell
[08:38] <Andeh> You must have used a bad defragger :D
[08:38] <Andeh> kmess?
[08:38] <Poul^Laptop> or dont it support webcams
[08:38] <PirateHead> MostKnown53: they both use the exact same package repository, so there is nothing you can do in one that you have no way of doing in the other. The only difference is the default package installation, with one coming from the Gnome camp (www.gnome.org) and the other from the K Desktop Environment.
[08:39] <AnxiousCo> " Ensure the relevant repositories are enabled. Click System  Administration  Synaptic Package Manager  Settings  Repositories and then click Add. Check the Community maintained (Universe) and Non-free (Multiverse) boxes. When you close the window, click Reload" When I open settings->respositories there are tabs. and the only "Add" button is in the third party tab... it does not give me an option as stated... What could I be doin
[08:39] <Poul^Laptop> kmess, msn chat application
[08:39] <Pir8> I installed Edgy on a T60 Lenovo, and I can't seem to get my NIC working? Any suggestions/pointesr ?
[08:39] <eck> buddha: it's kind of hard to run a desktop without gtk+ installed at all...
[08:39] <hateyla> when i rebooted my system there is something problem with FAT partitions in that Screen it shows No FSinfo .. this error comes with all fat partitions.. and after then its clears it self and start the machine
[08:39] <Andeh> kmess better than AMSN?
[08:39] <AlexC_> eck: not really,
[08:39] <PirateHead> MostKnown53: the communitites of Ubuntu and Kubuntu are closely intertwined, so thought there are differences, there is nothing in particular to report.
[08:39] <Poul^Laptop> dont know, havent tryed amsn
[08:39] <Andeh> Whats that other one, kotote or something?
[08:39] <AlexC_> Kopete
[08:39] <Poul^Laptop> But i love kmess, but havent tryed webcams with it
[08:39] <MostKnown53> well thanks that helped alot i like kde i just tought it i used kubuntu i would miss out on the community and other sutuff
[08:40] <Scottty> hello
[08:40] <AlexC_> hi
[08:40] <N3WB> Is it possible to get a PHP Script to restart a program lets say steam?
[08:40] <eck> no firefox and no gaim at the very least, plus i think most of the in-house tools written at canonical use gtk+
[08:40] <Poul^Laptop> general speeking, i havent got my webcam to work on this laptop
[08:40] <AnxiousCo> I am using 6.10 btw
[08:40] <Poul^Laptop> dont seam like the lspci find it
[08:40] <PirateHead> Hello Scottty.
[08:40] <AlexC_> MostKnown53: nope - they are both from the same great community =)
[08:40] <Andeh> Which is faster / less resource munching, GNOME or KDE?
[08:40] <xtknight> Andeh: gnome i'd say
[08:40] <Andeh> Ok
[08:40] <eck> Andeh: there is not much difference, despite what people will tell you
[08:40] <Scottty> I'm trying to install the latest nvidia driver, off nvidia's website, but I'm unable to stop the Xorg server, and I can only start the installation of Xorg is off
[08:40] <Andeh> But GNOME is less configurable
[08:40] <Scottty> sorry for jumping in like this
[08:40] <xtknight> yup
[08:40] <Andeh> AFAIK
[08:40] <Andeh> Ok
[08:40] <AlexC_> !nvidia | Scottty
[08:40] <ubotu> Scottty: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:41] <Andeh> I am going to get KDE then
[08:41] <MostKnown53> i love pretty
[08:41] <eck> gross
[08:41] <Andeh> How would i do that?
[08:41] <AlexC_> Scottty: jump straight in is fine =)
[08:41] <eck> sorry, couldn't help it :-)
[08:41] <wikityler> i've connected to my server via ssh, so i can edit the interfaces file with gedit, but how to i open the file with root permissions to edit it?
[08:41] <CheshireViking> Andeh, aMSN doesn't work with my Creative Webcam - i was getting an error message about it not supporting something so i changed to Kopete
[08:41] <Andeh> I have to install some KDE packages, and then change a reference in a file?
[08:41] <Scottty> ubotu: will you please tell me how to shut down Xorg completely, temporarly
[08:41] <PirateHead> Andeh: good luck. It's a neat environment,. To install it, type "sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop" -- that's the easy way, anyhow.
[08:41] <AlexC_> !sudo | wikityler
[08:41] <ubotu> wikityler: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:41] <Hackmo> Scottty, I don't suppose you are from Dundee?
[08:41] <Andeh> Thanks a lot everybody!
[08:41] <PirateHead> Andeh: correction
[08:41] <AlexC_> Scottty: ubotu is a bot,
[08:41] <Scottty> Dundee? nope
[08:41] <Scottty> ah
[08:41] <Scottty> I see
[08:41] <AnxiousCo> anyone else have the same problem as me? this should be simple...
[08:41] <AlexC_> :P
[08:41] <Andeh> I was trying to remember the name, kopete
[08:42] <AnxiousCo> is the one under third party correct?
[08:42] <_`XeOn_> eck, i got both egg exec and config in home directory how to change permition?
[08:42] <PirateHead> Andeh: "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop" -- for got to put install in there. =D
[08:42] <Scottty> what file do I need to edit to disable auto Xorg start?
[08:42] <wikityler> alexc: how do i run gedit from this computer while sudoing a file over ssh then?
[08:42] <eck> _`XeOn_: chmod of course, you probably need to use sudo in front of it
[08:42] <Andeh> ok thanks
[08:42] <AnxiousCo> n/m found it
[08:42] <AnxiousCo> thanks
[08:42] <PirateHead> AnxiousCo: still trying to get your new HDD mounted?
[08:42] <eck> Scottty: you need to disable te run script
[08:42] <findeton> hi
[08:42] <AlexC_> wikityler: you can't. You have to do everything via terminal - so instead use nano. "sudo nano /path/to/file"
[08:42] <findeton> i'm on kubuntu
[08:42] <eck> Scottty: the easiest way is to install sysv-rc-conf
[08:43] <xtknight> PirateHead: kubuntu-desktop or kde-desktop?
[08:43] <Andeh> Around how long would a compile take?
[08:43] <msgmikeh> Random Thought, I used to use StarOffice back in the day of OS/2. :)
[08:43] <x386> Anybody has suggestion for CD/DVD cataloging SW which have archive browsing support?
[08:43] <Scottty> eck: how?
[08:43] <AlexC_> xtknight: kubuntu-desktop
[08:43] <_`XeOn_> eck, what is the complete string?
[08:43] <eck> Scottty: apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[08:43] <PirateHead> xtknight: kubuntu-desktop, for sure. I keep mistyping!
[08:43] <hateyla>  when i rebooted my system there is something problem with FAT partitions in that Screen it shows No FSinfo found /dev/hda1 and other FATS.. this error comes with all fat partitions.. and after then its clears it self and start the machine.. how can i correct this?
[08:43] <findeton> i don't know why, but when i play a video the screen 'jumps' (there are frames that are lost)
[08:43] <Andeh> How long would it take to compile a big program?
[08:43] <xtknight> heheh ;)
[08:43] <eck> _`XeOn_: sudo chmod $USER:$USER ~/eggdrop.sh
[08:43] <xtknight> Andeh: such as?
[08:43] <AlexC_> Andeh: impossible to say.
[08:43] <PirateHead> Andeh: depending on your machine, it could take minutes or hours.
[08:43] <Andeh> XEN virtual desktop enviroment?
[08:43] <findeton> i don't know why, but when i play a video the screen 'jumps' (there are frames that are lost)
[08:43] <Ltar> this is a problem-- my period and comma keys don't resopond anymore--  I can't use greater than or less than either
[08:43] <findeton> :p
[08:43] <AlexC_> Andeh: what could be 46 days on one pc, could take 46 seconds on another
[08:43] <B|nTaRa> !yahoo > B|nTaRa
[08:44] <Pollywog> or days on Gentoo ;)
[08:44] <Andeh> Well i dont own the former :D
[08:44] <B|nTaRa> !yahoo | B|nTaRa
[08:44] <PirateHead> Andeh: it's likely to take awhile.
[08:44] <xtknight> main problem is, what is the definition of a "big" program..
[08:44] <_`XeOn_>  $USER:$USER is from:to
[08:44] <_`XeOn_> ?
[08:44] <B|nTaRa> !yahoo
[08:44] <eck> _`XeOn_: no, it is user:group
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <Andeh> Would i be able to use sudo apt-get while compiling with "make"?
[08:44] <AlexC_> xtknight: one that is this <-----------------------> big
[08:44] <eck> _`XeOn_: when you type it in the shell will replace it with your user
[08:44] <AlexC_> Andeh: yers
[08:44] <eck> _`XeOn_: try running echo $USER
[08:44] <Andeh> Thanks again
[08:44] <B|nTaRa> !ym B|nTaRa
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ym b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <B|nTaRa> !ym | B|nTaRa
[08:44] <whta> is there any way to get filezilla from a repository?
[08:44] <findeton> i don't know why, but when i play a video the screen 'jumps' (there are frames that are lost)
[08:44] <findeton> !
[08:45] <xtknight> findeton: what codec?  xvid?
[08:45] <findeton> yes
[08:45] <findeton> it's xvid
[08:45] <Pollywog> btw why does fakeroot not work in Ubuntu as it does in Debian?  I need sudo in Ubuntu, plain fakeroot won't work
[08:45] <eck> _`XeOn_: you could also just use your username, i just don't know what it is
[08:45] <findeton> on vlc and kaffeine, for example
[08:45] <Scottty> sysv-rc-conf wasn't found :(
[08:45] <xtknight> i was just going to say if it was H.264 i could understand that, although any modern CPU should be able to do xvid without issues
[08:45] <cheeseboy> how do i make iso?
[08:45] <_`XeOn_> /home/sasser
[08:45] <whta> is there any way to get filezilla from a repository?
[08:45] <Ltar> this is a problem-- my period and comma keys don't respond anymore--  I can't use greater than or less than either
[08:45] <PirateHead> man ubotu
[08:46] <eck> Scottty: it is in universe
[08:46] <xtknight> !info filezilla | Scottty
[08:46] <PirateHead> I want the ubotu manual!
[08:46] <PirateHead> !bot > piratehead
[08:46] <ubotu> scottty: filezilla: Port of the famous Win32 graphical FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0~beta2-2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 659 kB, installed size 1716 kB
[08:46] <cheeseboy> how do i make bootable iso?
[08:46] <findeton> xtknight: and the thing is that i believe it's because i updated yesterday the vlc through synaptic
[08:46] <eck> _`XeOn_: anyway, the command i gave will work
[08:46] <AlexC_> whta: don't think so - just download the latest nightly build and go to the directory it is in and run the command "filezilla"
[08:46] <jim> Is there a quick utility/program that can test the 3D on my graphics card please?
[08:46] <xtknight> findeton: hrmm did you try a different video output device?
[08:46] <Pollywog> jim: nvidia?
[08:46] <Andeh> Would running windows XP in a virtual enviroment on ubuntu on a dual core be better than running it normally?
[08:46] <Andeh> Maybe ubuntu would make better use of the dual cores and thus improve performance?
[08:46] <cheeseboy> how do i make bootable iso?
[08:46] <kaiden> going to ask a silly question, used to you could kill the xserver via ctrl - alt - backspace, nowadays it just reruns it when you attempt to do that, is there a stopx command or anything along the lines to gracefully close X?
[08:47] <findeton> xtknight: i don't understant, a different video output device?
[08:47] <AlexC_> PirateHead: huh?! Filezilla is not in the repos,
[08:47] <xtknight> Andeh: i dont quite understand what you mean...
[08:47] <eck> Andeh: it will not make it perform better
[08:47] <cheeseboy> anyone?
[08:47] <jim> No, ATI Polly
[08:47] <cheeseboy> how do i make bootable iso?
[08:47] <Pollywog> oh
[08:47] <eck> Andeh: it will probably be slower
[08:47] <Andeh> ok thanks again
[08:47] <xtknight> !info filezilla | AlexC_
[08:47] <ubotu> alexc_: filezilla: Port of the famous Win32 graphical FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0~beta2-2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 659 kB, installed size 1716 kB
[08:47] <Pollywog> then I do not know
[08:47] <AlexC_> !repeat | cheeseboy
[08:47] <ubotu> cheeseboy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:47] <hateyla> i want to install win32 codecs where i can find this codec?
[08:47] <findeton> xtknight: i don't understant, a different video output device? :P
[08:47] <Andeh> Because windows meant not for dual core doesnt use both optimally
[08:47] <jrib> kaiden: ctrl-alt-backspace kills it, then gdm starts it agiain, so stop gdm like so:  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[08:47] <Pollywog> hateyla: w32codecs
[08:47] <AlexC_> xtknight: yeah I just saw that from when PirateHead did it ... but it's not in the repos (for me) and I have universe enabled ...
[08:47] <jrib> kaiden: I would log out first btw
[08:48] <kaiden> jrib: ah thanks ;)
[08:48] <eck> Andeh: does not windows ___ pro have smp support?
[08:48] <xtknight> AlexC_: need backports
[08:48] <CheshireViking> jim, what do you want to test? if its just whether it works, try typing glxgears into a terminal
[08:48] <kaiden> yup yuup
[08:48] <hateyla> Pollywog: ya i want this how can get this codec?
[08:48] <xtknight> findeton: umm...it's in the VLC options somewhere
[08:48] <Ltar> cheeseboy: try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948
[08:48] <AlexC_> xtknight: doh, thanks
[08:48] <Pollywog> but you need to get them from .... hang on
[08:48] <ep2011> cheeseboy: Search Imgburn on google. I am assuming you are using Windows
[08:48] <PirateHead> AlexC_: I do not know what the deal with tha tis.
[08:48] <AlexC_> PirateHead: I didn't have Backports turned on :P
[08:48] <cheeseboy> im on ubuntu
[08:48] <hateyla> Pollywog:  ok.
[08:48] <Ltar> cheeseboy: or do you mean--- how do you burn an iso to boot?
[08:48] <Ltar> cheeseboy: oh
[08:48] <findeton> xtknight: i'l search for that
[08:48] <MostKnown53> does ubuntu use rpms or what to install programs
[08:48] <cheeseboy> i want to make an iso
[08:49] <AlexC_> MostKnown53: .debs
[08:49] <eck> cheeseboy: you cannot make any iso bootable, the iso needs to have a bootloader on it
[08:49] <cheeseboy> not burn
[08:49] <jim> Cheers Viking, that works!!!!!
[08:49] <eck> cheeseboy: you need to use isolinux
[08:49] <Pollywog> medibuntu has the codecs
[08:49] <greig_> CheshireViking : im still fighting with this cam, on the install instructions it says... "First, download the sources. Then type make. It should produce nw802.o"..... where do i type make? sorry to bother u
[08:49] <PirateHead> MostKnown53: it uses the Debian GNU/Linux .deb installer. You can install .rpm packages using the experimental "alien" installer, howerver.
[08:49] <cheeseboy> eck i want to make iso from win 98 oem setup files
[08:49] <Andeh> My sound card input isnt getting anything. It works in windowsxp so i know the hardwares fine.
[08:49] <hateyla> Pollywog:  where i found this?
[08:50] <cheeseboy> is it possible?
[08:50] <Andeh> The microfone
[08:50] <MostKnown53> ok are .deb files easy to install
[08:50] <eck> cheeseboy: and you want it to boot linux, or what?
[08:50] <AlexC_> MostKnown53: should double click on them
[08:50] <xtknight> MostKnown53: sudo dpkg -i <asdf.deb>  in the console
[08:50] <AlexC_> s/should/just
[08:50] <PirateHead> MostKnown53: they are very easy to install. You can use apt-get, aptitude, or Synaptic, at your choice.
[08:50] <findeton> xtknight: i see x11, opengl, xvideo, imagearchive and opengl (glx) but on xvideo and x11 there are no options!
[08:50] <AlexC_> or just double click :P far easier
[08:50] <PirateHead> MostKnown53: Synaptic lets you find, download, in install .deb packages via a graphical menu.
[08:51] <cheeseboy> eck: i want to make iso out windows 98 installer files then boot win 98 installer iso in vmware
[08:51] <AlexC_> !pm | cyber_cop
[08:51] <ubotu> cyber_cop: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[08:51] <Andeh> My microphone isnt getting anything on ubuntu! It worked on windows, how do i fix this??
[08:51] <CheshireViking> greig_, i'm probably not the best person to ask about using the make command, i've rarely had to use it & I end up asking for help myself
[08:51] <Pollywog> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:51] <xtknight> findeton: which video output is selected right now?
[08:51] <robinsjostrom> will the next version of ubuntu support more ATI cards?
[08:51] <AlexC_> robinsjostrom: that's up ti ATI not Ubuntu
[08:51] <AlexC_> s/ti/to
[08:51] <hateyla> PiratedHead: if Synaptic aint find what am i looking for than?
[08:51] <greig_> CheshireViking : ok thanks anyway!
[08:51] <eck> cheeseboy: you will not be able to do it without downloading/ripping the installer cd
[08:51] <Pollywog> hateyla: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:51] <findeton> xtknight: i don't know, i don't see that option/information there
[08:51] <Andeh> Cant anyone help??
[08:51] <PirateHead> hateyla: What is the problem? Synaptic can't find what you want?
[08:52] <robinsjostrom> AlexC_: so..... NVIDIA is better than ATI?
[08:52] <cyber_cop> support me. My private
[08:52] <findeton> xtknight: i'm yet searching that
[08:52] <eck> cheeseboy: you can't just put the files on a cd and make the cd bootable, you need a bootloader and a kernel on the cd at the very least
[08:52] <Andeh> HOW DO I GET MY MICROPHONE TO WORK?
[08:52] <AlexC_> robinsjostrom: for Linux support I would say so yes. Infact I am about to buy a nVidia to replace my ATI so I get better support
[08:52] <PirateHead> hateyla: You might need to enable an additional repository, or download an upstream package.
[08:52] <AlexC_> !shout | Andeh
[08:52] <ubotu> Andeh: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:52] <CheshireViking> greig_, which website are you using, i'll have a look anyway
[08:52] <cyber_cop> ubuntu Turkish support please
[08:52] <Pollywog> nvidia has better support in Linux than ATI
[08:52] <PirateHead> !shout | andeh
[08:52] <ubotu> andeh: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:52] <cyber_cop> AlexC_: support me
[08:52] <MostKnown53> lol yall know all that just went over my head i just started using linux yesterday
[08:52] <Dumahen> !chm
[08:52] <Andeh> I know you can read lowercase... But i asked 5 times.
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <hateyla> PiratedHead : want to say if i want something for eg trix.. if this package is not in Synaptic?
[08:53] <Pollywog> hateyla: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:53] <AlexC_> cyber_cop: Hello I'm Alex and I;m support you, my name is Alex and I'm support you.
[08:53] <MostKnown53> does this synaptic program come with kunbuntu
[08:53] <robinsjostrom> damn i always have linux incompatible hardware. no matter how hard i try
[08:53] <Dumahen> how ccan i read chm files ?
[08:53] <cyber_cop> AlexC_: you private send message
[08:53] <greig_> CheshireViking : http://nw802.sourceforge.net/faq.html i have downloaded the files i think...
[08:53] <xtknight> lol
[08:53] <PirateHead> Andeh, don't ask the same questio over and over either. If somebody in the room was able to help you, they would have responded.
[08:53] <hateyla> Pollywog:  thanks man i download it.
[08:53] <Flare183> chm viewer
[08:53] <xtknight> !tr
[08:53] <ep2011> !patience Andeh
[08:53] <neonimr> hi
[08:53] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patience andeh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <AlexC_> cyber_cop: Please. stop sending me personal messages and just ask in this channel.
[08:53] <findeton> xtknight: now i see that it was selected the 'default'. I've now selected opengl
[08:53] <eck> ep2011: you forgot the pip
[08:53] <Andeh> Well thats lovely.
[08:53] <eck> pipe even
[08:54] <hateyla> Pollywog:  After This Package install can i play .avi .dat .mpeg video files?
[08:54] <ep2011> I know :P sorry
[08:54] <xtknight> findeton: ok, good idea.  see if it's any bette rnow
[08:54] <cyber_cop> #ubuntu-tr channel empty
[08:54] <PirateHead> Andeh, if nobody can help you here, it's a good idea to check the archives of the Ubuntu Forums and make a new post if you don't find anything helpful.
[08:54] <ep2011> I reliezed that after I pressed enter
[08:54] <cyber_cop> dont help
[08:54] <cyber_cop> ubotu:
[08:54] <Andeh> !patience > Andeh
[08:54] <ep2011> !patience | Andeh
[08:54] <ubotu> Andeh: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:54] <feniks> hello... what is cups web admin password?? root pass doesnt work
[08:54] <cyber_cop> ubotu: = bot ??
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot ?? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <cyber_cop> channel bot?
[08:54] <AlexC_> cyber_cop: yes
[08:54] <Andeh> Good on ye practicing your IRC skills ep2011
[08:55] <cyber_cop> :))
[08:55] <findeton> solved, thanks people!
[08:55] <neonimr> #!/bin/csh isnt that enough to make a shell script?
[08:55] <Andeh> So, if i read correctly, nobody here knows anything about sound cards?
[08:55] <cyber_cop> ubuntu-tr no user
[08:55] <cyber_cop> empty
[08:55] <hateyla> !w32codecs
[08:55] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:55] <feniks> neonimr: chmod +x file.sh ?
[08:55] <cyber_cop> my AMSN package installed
[08:55] <feniks> hello... what is cups web admin password?? root pass doesnt work???
[08:55] <cappy> Andeh: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2312945
[08:55] <BlueEagle> andeh: Either that or noone has gotten around to reading your question yet. Some of us are helping other people at the momebt.
[08:55] <eck> Andeh: try the forums, for things that are hardware-specific you are more likely to find someone familiar with your setup there
[08:55] <BlueEagle> moment.
[08:55] <Scottty> thanks, bye
[08:55] <AlexC_> !repeat | feniks
[08:55] <ubotu> feniks: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:55] <neonimr> feniks: i did that too
[08:55] <CheshireViking> greig_, looking at it, presumably you've downloaded a file called nw802-2.4-0.0.99.tar.bz2
[08:55] <cyber_cop> console command write install
[08:56] <neonimr> but still doesnt work
[08:56] <Ltar> this is a problem-- my period and comma keys don't respond anymore--  I can't use greater than or less than either-- I messed around a bit with the keyboard shortcuts in Ubuntu earlier-- attempting to assign period or comma to something gives a weird result-- imputting ctrl-period for the command displays ctrl-0xc3 and ctl-XF86AudioPlay-- --alternately
[08:56] <Andeh> Ok thanks
[08:56] <feniks> neonimr: and ./script.sh ?
[08:56] <Joly> hello there is the channel italian? Please
[08:56] <hateyla> !codecs > hateyla
[08:56] <Andeh> Can i run multiple apt-gets at the same time?
[08:56] <eck> Ltar: is this in gnome?
[08:56] <eck> Ltar: or at the command line?
[08:56] <void^> Andeh: no.
[08:56] <greig_> CheshireViking : yes correct
[08:56] <feniks> neonimr: just script.sh only search inside PATH, not in current dir
[08:56] <Andeh> darn
[08:56] <BlueEagle> andeh: No, the first one will lock the database.
[08:56] <AlexC_> !france | jloy
[08:56] <ubotu> jloy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:56] <Andeh> darn
[08:56] <AlexC_> france?! what . I meant italy :P
[08:56] <BlueEagle> andeh: You can however set apt-get to install several apps in one go.
[08:56] <fellacious> does ubuntu have anything like iChat AV?
[08:56] <AlexC_> !italy | joly
[08:56] <BlueEagle> !aptitude
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[08:57] <Andeh> ok, too late for that tho blueeagle
[08:57] <cyber_cop> AlexC_: I send you prevate message
[08:57] <Ltar> eck: this is happening in gnome
[08:57] <cyber_cop> answer please
[08:57] <AlexC_> No.
[08:57] <PirateHead> !pm | cyber_cop
[08:57] <Andeh> Whats the command for choosing the default Desktop Enviroment? The terminal just set mine to KDE and i wonder how to turn it back?
[08:57] <ubotu> cyber_cop: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[08:57] <Ltar> eck: attempting to remap keyboard shortcuts via system-preferences-keyboard shortcuts
[08:57] <cyber_cop> ok PirateHead
[08:57] <eck> Ltar: i would just wipe out ~/.gconf and maybe ~/.gnome2 and hope it fixes your mistake. you will lose any configuration you did
[08:57] <TheVault> I'm not sure if you get question everyday but does linux come with a system restore kinda function like windows(oh god, he said windows)
[08:57] <fellacious> i want to audio chat with aim users... does ubuntu have any software to do that with?
[08:58] <eck> you could back them up and copy things over as needed
[08:58] <AnxiousCo> fdisk is finally reading my hard drive :) now for it to be visible and navigable do i mount it, correct?
[08:58] <TheVault> eck: So there is no system restore function kinda program?
[08:58] <Andeh> Whats the command for choosing the default Desktop Enviroment? The terminal just set mine to KDE and i wonder how to turn it back?
[08:58] <eck> TheVault: it's called tar :-)
[08:58] <thcmonkey> ubuntu got an app to write isos?
[08:58] <eck> (just kidding, of course)
[08:58] <CheshireViking> greig_, from memory, all i would do is right click on the file & extract it, then open a terminal, then cd to the directory that has just been created when the files were extracted and then type make in that directory - BUT - before you do that, maybe someone else can confirm it
[08:58] <TheVault> thcmonkey: yes
[08:58] <eck> there is no equivalent of system restore in windows
[08:58] <Andeh> thcmonkey: isolinux
[08:59] <TheVault> thecmonkey: try k3b
[08:59] <BlueEagle> thevault: System restoration is usually done manually in linux.
[08:59] <Ltar> eck: /gconf and /gnome are the shortcut maps? I presume?
[08:59] <eck> AnxiousCo: that is correct
[08:59] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Oh, that makes sense
[08:59] <thcmonkey> gonme baker writes them to though right?
[08:59] <eck> Ltar: ~/.gconf and ~/.gnome2 are where all your gnome settings are stored
[08:59] <thcmonkey> gnome*
[08:59] <greig_> CheshireViking: i have beeing a linux noobie lol
[08:59] <BlueEagle> thevault: Well figuring that linux runs on more platforms than windows does making a generic "rescue" is harder.
[08:59] <Andeh> How do i change my desktop environment back to GNOME after installing KDE?
[08:59] <TheVault> Oh, alrighty
[08:59] <AnxiousCo> ok thanks, does partition mean to divide into seperate drive letters or does it also mean to assign a drive a letter?
[08:59] <AnxiousCo> or is that windows only gibberish
[08:59] <BlueEagle> thevault: What exactly needs to be restored?
[08:59] <CheshireViking> greig_, that makes two of us
[08:59] <Andeh> How do i change my desktop environment back to GNOME after installing KDE?
[09:00] <cappy> Andeh: when you boot up, at the login screen you get to pick your desktop environment in SESSIONS
[09:00] <PirateHead> greig_: That's okay. You'll catch on if you hang in there.
[09:00] <eck> AnxiousCo: windows gibberish
[09:00] <fooo> AnxiousCo: everything but the letters part
[09:00] <jc-denton> complaint
[09:00] <Andeh> Sessions?
[09:00] <ubuntu> using the live cd, how do i browse the drives in the computer ?
[09:00] <jc-denton> i installed manpages-dev
[09:00] <Andeh> ok
[09:00] <jc-denton> and man stdio works
[09:00] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Nothing, just asking now so maybe later on when I screw something up, I know what to do
[09:00] <jc-denton> man complex too
[09:00] <cappy> Andeh: It's a button
[09:00] <cyber_cop> I format Ubuntu sistem. nstall windows. Ubunntu not support
[09:00] <cyber_cop> bye channel
[09:00] <jc-denton> but man math not
[09:00] <jc-denton> i don't see why
[09:00] <eck> AnxiousCo: partitions are sort of like separating a disk into multiple disks
[09:00] <fooo> I installed manpages... but not installed the dep-yue-tee....
[09:00] <jc-denton> i guess a but, should be fixed
[09:00] <eck> AnxiousCo: both separate drives and separate partitions will have different drive letters in windows
[09:00] <PirateHead> ubuntu: you can use GParted if you like,
[09:00] <TheVault> BlueEagle: First thing I learned about linux is, for all newbs anyway, is create a backup of whatever file you edit, so later you can restore
[09:01] <ubuntu> PirateHead: and that will let me see the drives ?
[09:01] <MostKnown53> bootloader on usd flashdrive who knows how to do that
[09:01] <Andeh> What is the command to startup beryl?
[09:01] <Andeh> I want to add it to my startup scripts
[09:01] <BlueEagle> thevault: Well I keep a live-cd handy with the same kernel version as the system I run. That way I can boot off the live-cd, mount up the drives and chroot into the system to fix anything that needs fixing.
[09:01] <PirateHead> ubuntu: yes it will.
[09:01] <Section31> I so love the Beryl "beam up" animation for minimizing/maximizing apps.
[09:01] <Andeh> What is the command to start beryl?
[09:01] <peija-kas> beryl-manager
[09:01] <ubuntu> Andeh: beryl-manager
[09:01] <Andeh> Thanks
[09:01] <BlueEagle> !beryl
[09:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:02] <hateyla> i want to download some repos from seveas.ubuntu.nl its not free ?
[09:02] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Oh i see. Well I also used the LIVE CD to configure alotta the programs before I actually install them on my machine, pretty useful if ya ask me
[09:02] <eck> Andeh: if i see your question multiple times on the same screen, you're asking it too often
[09:02] <Seveas> !seveas > hateyla
[09:02] <BlueEagle> hateyla: I'm not sure if seveas still offers packages.
[09:02] <Seveas> BlueEagle, I do
[09:02] <DelTa_K> hi
[09:02] <Andeh> eck: you must have a giant monitor then :-)
[09:02] <BlueEagle> seveas: Oh. Good stuff. :)
[09:02] <BlueEagle> seveas: :)
[09:02] <someguy142> ...
[09:02] <hateyla> Seveas: want to download some repos from ur web can i download?
[09:02] <eck> Andeh: you waited for three people to enter things before repeating the question
[09:03] <someguy142> wth can't i join #python?
[09:03] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Thats how I got my wireless to work. Thats how I got Limewire to work and may other programs. So that way, I know what to do. See on the live cd, if I screw up something, a simple restart and try again and it works
[09:03] <Seveas> someguy142, they have a join limit
[09:03] <Andeh> eck: I knew it! I wish i had a huge plasma too
[09:03] <Andeh> Does anyone know where i might find premade beryl configuration files?
[09:03] <eck> haha
[09:03] <CheshireViking> greig_, looking at the instructions on that website, its mentions that it is setup to run when its based on 2.4.18 kernel, so if your ubuntu is using the 2.6.17.11 kernel like mine, maybe it won't work without having to use some different files
[09:03] <ubuntu> PirateHead: wheres the option to browse the disk ? i don't see it
[09:03] <AnxiousCo> "NTFS drives will be mounted read-only!" does this mean I will not be able to save to it?
[09:03] <BlueEagle> thevault: Yeah. It's a great way to cut your teeth. :)
[09:03] <fellacious> lol im using your #python slot
[09:03] <jim> why plasma?
[09:03] <fellacious> you have been trolled.  you have lost.
[09:03] <iAmTheDave> anyone ever attempt anything like this:
[09:03] <someguy142> well
[09:03] <Andeh> because otherwise my laptop would weigh 700 kilos
[09:03] <someguy142> seveas where could i get support than?
[09:03] <peija-kas> AnxiousCo yes by default Ubuntu cannot write to NTFS
[09:03] <iAmTheDave> http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[09:04] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Yeah I know. Problem being is that, I donno if I can install Beryl on the live cd
[09:04] <peija-kas> AnxiousCo you would need NTFS-3g driver to write to ntfs
[09:04] <TheVault> or can I?
[09:04] <greig_> CheshireViking : I see, how do i check my version?
[09:04] <BlueEagle> thevault: Short answer: You can't.
[09:04] <feniks> AnxiousCo: writing to ntfs doesnt work well.. normally people use fat32 for file exchange
[09:04] <peija-kas> AnxiousCo and its not perfect yet
[09:04] <Andeh> Will my current beryl install work on KDE too?
[09:04] <BlueEagle> thevault: Long answer: You can, but you don't want to.
[09:04] <OuZo> hi, all
[09:04] <xtknight> BlueEagle, TheVault: it's not really any harder than doing it normally
[09:04] <Andeh> hello
[09:04] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Yeah, laggy and all
[09:04] <greig_> CheshireViking: as i just dont what u instructed and i got errors, so perhap u are correct
[09:04] <toulouse> #xubuntu
[09:04] <toulouse> whoops
[09:04] <CheshireViking> greig_, type uname -r in terminal
[09:04] <peija-kas> feniks NTFS-3g is perfectly usable...its only missing some special things...but its still not recommended for writing to any real important drives imho
[09:05] <OuZo> i am trying to use gobby & i get this error... Howl initialisation failed. Probably you need to run mDNSResponder as root prior to Gobby. Zeroconf support is deactivated for this session.. how can i fix this thanks
[09:05] <TheVault> xtknight: Well honestly, I'm not sure what I would use Beryl for. I love the Expose effects, so that would be the only reason.
[09:05] <peija-kas> !ntfs-3g
[09:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:05] <AnxiousCo> peija-kas: is it very buggy or should i give it a try?
[09:05] <AnxiousCo> thanks
[09:05] <greig_> CheshireViking: 2.6.17-11
[09:05] <AlexC_> TheVault: grouping of Windows is also very handy
[09:05] <CheshireViking> greig_, rite, i think thats the default
[09:06] <TheVault> AlexC_: Oh. Iv been reading around that Beryl killed Vista so bad :)
[09:06] <AlexC_> TheVault: you can then compact the group so it apperas as one window, and cylce through them by pressing alt+left or right arrow
[09:06] <feniks> why neither root nor normal user can login to CUPS web admin??
[09:06] <AlexC_> TheVault: yes, yes it has
[09:06] <Ltar> etc: where can I find the gconf and gnome2 files?
[09:06] <peija-kas> AnxiousCo its not very buggy..ive used it and weve tested the files on Windows...seems to work pretty nicely..
[09:06] <greig_> CheshireViking: so perhaps these drivers wont work with this version as it is a newer kernel?
[09:06] <feniks> this ubuntu is weird
[09:06] <Tessa> hi all. does someone know what i could do to make evince give me a better result with an in kile created pdf? http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4246/screenshot1np3.png when i open a "normal" pdf evince has no problems showing it with good font.
[09:06] <ep2011> And my windows crashed and I need to reinstall it from defragging :\
[09:06] <brynk_> any people here know how to setup a bluetooth headset properly?
[09:06] <eck> feniks: look at the cups documentation, it might be set in a config file
[09:06] <Andeh> The reason its not perfectly reliable to use NFTS from linux is because microsoft wont tell anyone how NFTS works so all the utilities to use it are from guesswork
[09:06] <AlexC_> feniks: no - it's just not Windows.
[09:06] <erUSUL> feniks: becouse the web interface is disabled by default
[09:06] <AnxiousCo> peija-kas:  thanks for the info
[09:06] <feniks> AlexC_: it works flawlessly on gentoo
[09:06] <feniks> erUSUL: localhost:631 works.. just login is rejected
[09:06] <TheVault> AlexC_: Well once I finish re-installing Ubuntu on my laptop again, I'll give beryl a whirl. I did something and I screwed something up big on the system(im a newb, just exploring)
[09:06] <eck> feniks: it also could be the cups user
[09:06] <sarixe> hi, can someone help me with a faulty deb package installation?
[09:07] <erUSUL> feniks: i know you have to enable it there is page in the wiki
[09:07] <AlexC_> TheVault: best way to learn that is! exploring then breaking it :P
[09:07] <eck> no, the best way to learn is to read the man pages!
[09:07] <TheVault> AlexC_:Yeah, I just learned that the hard way 10 minutes ago
[09:07] <Andeh> I love linux. I reccomend anyone here who never used linux to use it.
[09:07] <AlexC_> eck: you can read all the books in the world ... but it will not stick untill you have expirance in doing it =)
[09:07] <Andeh> * to at least try it
[09:07] <xtknight> i can't stand reading books
[09:08] <PirateHead> Andeh: it's nice to see that the difficulties aren't turning you off. Keep at it!
[09:08] <eck> AlexC_: it's a two way street though
[09:08] <TheVault> AlexC_: Was going into this thing, messing around and then i screwed something up, the system locked up and all. Restarted and I got errors and things, it screeped me out so I'm re-installing
[09:08] <sarixe> metzen_: how's fios working out for you? just curious
[09:08] <Andeh> Thanks PirateHead
[09:08] <AlexC_> TheVault: probably that X server failed to load?
[09:08] <Andeh> I dread having to even boot windows now :D
[09:08] <erUSUL> feniks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface <<<< see here
[09:08] <XelHa> is there a known USB problem after hibernate (on Feisty) ?
[09:08] <TheVault> AlexC_: Yeah, all texted based things
[09:08] <AlexC_> Andeh: I agree, it pissses me off so much lol,
[09:08] <BlueEagle> feniks: For security reasons (and since ubuntu sets no password for root by default) the web interface login for cups is disabled by default. There are other ways to configure your printers that are (for most people) more intuitive. (Ie the gnome printer management interface)
[09:08] <Ltar> eck: where can I find the gconf and gnome2 files?
[09:09] <TheVault> AlexC_: I could not see no GUI, just all text based when I restarted with errors & whatnot
[09:09] <BlueEagle> feniks: Atleast that's what I've been told.
[09:09] <Andeh> This is a fact of common knoledge: Windows runs smoothly as long as you dont run it too much :-D
[09:09] <eck> Ltar: ~/.gconf and ~/.gnome2
[09:09] <feniks> BlueEagle: well i have root password set
[09:09] <whta> ugh stupid sourceforge needs to come back up
[09:09] <AlexC_> TheVault: if you mess X up run the command "sudo dpkgi--reconfigure xserver-xorg" to write a new xorg.conf file .. that should get you're X back (gui)
[09:09] <AlexC_> woops,
[09:09] <eck> Ltar: also, if you switch to a VT your keyboard should be fine
[09:09] <AlexC_> TheVault: sudo dpkg--reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:09] <TheVault> AlexC_: Well its to late for that, fresh install of Ubuntu is being installed on my laptop now, I'm sitting here on my desktop, enjoying linux :)
[09:09] <BlueEagle> feniks: Then you just need to enable the login to cups web interface. I don't remember how that was done exactly but I am sure it's documented on the cups home pages.
[09:09] <BlueEagle> !cups
[09:09] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:09] <CRNewsom> Can someone please help me with the link in firefox for java?
[09:10] <AlexC_> "Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups" I tend to use a printer rather than cups =D
[09:10] <CRNewsom> I installed J2RE, created the link, but it no work
[09:10] <hateyla> can i paste 3 lines on main?
[09:10] <CRNewsom> What is the difference between j2re and jre
[09:10] <AlexC_> hateyla: 3 lines is ok,
[09:10] <CRNewsom> besides a 2
[09:10] <BlueEagle> alexc_: How can you print when you don't speak the same language as the printer does?
[09:11] <hateyla>        You can use apt to download and install the packages. Use the following       lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and use the command sudo       apt-get update to enable downloading from this component.
[09:11] <TheVault> AlexC_: Whats crazy is that, My desktop is a Pentium 3 Processor @ 993MHZ with 256mb of RAM and 20gig HD and it this computer runs linux better than it does Windows. Plays videos, music & programs faster and smoother than it did on Windows. I'm like WOW
[09:11] <hateyla> for this i want to add text in source.list?
[09:11] <CheshireViking> greig_, there maybe something at the bottom of that webpage that helps, it talks about what to do if you have a 2.5 kernel  - maybe you can do a similar thing for the 2.6 kernel
[09:11] <eck> BlueEagle: you can if your printer speaks postscript :-)
[09:11] <moosa> can someone help me it seems that i cant access my BIOS at start up :(
[09:11] <Danila> Hi everyone! I am a new linux/ubuntu user. Couldn't  set up wireless connection. Is there anybody who can / is willing to help? (I looked up at community forums but it didn't help; maybe because I dont know where to start from)
[09:11] <robinsjostrom> CRNewsom: maybe you should join the #java channel
[09:11] <AlexC_> BlueEagle: I took languages in "cup" and I speak cup fluenty on a regular basis, my printer isn't the most talkative though
[09:11] <Ltar> eck: typing ~/ brings me to my home folder-- I don't see gconf or gnome2----  argh
[09:11] <BlueEagle> eck: But then you do speak the same langauge as the printer don't you? ;)
[09:12] <TheVault> Danila: I can help, but I'm only good with Broadcom chipset cards
[09:12] <eck> Ltar: they are hidden, hidden files start with a .
[09:12] <CRNewsom> robinsjostrom: thanks for the ref
[09:12] <BlueEagle> alexc_: Atleast it's a good listner.
[09:12] <eck> Ltar: try this: ls -l ~/.gconf ~/.gnome2
[09:12] <CheshireViking> greig_, I just tried following the suggestion it made, but the make command failed at the same point
[09:12] <AlexC_> BlueEagle: hehe true!
[09:12] <CheshireViking> not sure what else to suggest
[09:12] <Aeolien> moosa: What have you tried so far?
[09:12] <robinsjostrom> CRNewsom: no problem. Just make sure youre identified or you cant join the channel
[09:13] <CRNewsom> robinsjostrom: how do I perform that in xchat
[09:13] <greig_> ChesireViking: I think it looks like my cam is not supported, for this kernel version at least?
[09:13] <moosa> Aeolien: the old delete at start-up only
[09:13] <maryush> siema
[09:13] <TheVault> CRNNewsom: sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:13] <peija-kas> greig_ what cam do you have
[09:13] <AlexC_> CRNewsom: /msg nickserv register password    then /msg nickserv identify password
[09:13] <CRNewsom> robinsjostrom: it's been quite a while since I was on IRC regularly
[09:13] <Aeolien> Have you previously accessed your BIOS?
[09:13] <Andeh> wow. i was going to wait for my kde install to finish before installing kopete but apparently it did it for me :-D
[09:13] <maryush> jakie mloty
[09:13] <moosa> Aeolien: on this machine no
[09:13] <maryush> I FROM POLAND :D
[09:13] <CRNewsom> AlexC_: thanks
[09:13] <Andeh> I FROM CROATIA D:
[09:13] <greig_> peija-kas: Trust spacecam 120
[09:13] <CRNewsom> thanks all, see you soon
[09:13] <CRNewsom> maybe
[09:13] <AlexC_> bye
[09:13] <TheVault> brb, gotta finish setting up things on my laptop, thanks for the help guys
[09:14] <moosa> however i did on others and booted ubuntu just fine
[09:14] <Andeh> Bye TheVault!
[09:14] <AlexC_> TheVault: cya
[09:14] <TheVault> I'll be back once I'm done
[09:14] <eck> !pl
[09:14] <TheVault> peace until then
[09:14] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:14] <AlexC_> I suppose I'd etter be going as well!
[09:14] <AlexC_> bye all!
[09:14] <CheshireViking> greig_, have a look at this website http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html that mentions a patch for the 2.6 kernel
[09:14] <Aeolien> moosa: Perhaps [Delete]  isn't the key for you. Sometimes you need to hit a function key. F1, F2, F8, F10, and F12 are popular ones. Escape and Backspace also are used.
[09:14] <Ltar> eck: ahh I see-- It hadn't even occurred to me that ubuntu would hide system files
[09:14] <Aeolien> moosa: The entry into BIOS key differs on each computer. Try others.
[09:15] <Andeh> I am curious, do all linux distros: Use the newest kernel + Desktop Enviroment + Apps??
[09:15] <eck> Ltar: it is not system files, it is any file that starts with a .  this is a very old unix thing :-)
[09:15] <peija-kas> greig_ check out this site: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=2324
[09:15] <sethk> Ltar, doesn't hide them, really.  the ls listing doesn't show them without the flag, but they aren't hidden
[09:15] <moosa> the start up dosnt wait for me to try them all
[09:15] <greig_> CheshireViking: do i just copy and past that command into terminal?
[09:15] <void^> Andeh: no.
[09:15] <greig_> peija-kas: i will
[09:15] <eck> Ltar: if you use the -a option in ls you can see them
[09:15] <Andeh> void^: why not?
[09:15] <eck> Ltar: e.g. try this: ls -la ~
[09:15] <peija-kas> greig_ someone there commented: working driver available at: http://mxhaard.free.fr/index.html
[09:15] <Andeh> void^: what do they use then?
[09:15] <CheshireViking> greig_, no, i don't think so
[09:16] <Aeolien> moosa: Do what you can. It will prolly involve rebooting a few times.
[09:16] <void^> Andeh: if you want things to be stable you need to stick an older version and just apply bugfixes to that
[09:16] <void^> +to
[09:16] <eck> Ltar: you can toggle seeing hidden files in nautilus with ctrl-h, iirc
[09:16] <moosa> Aeolien: it is a laptop by the way
[09:16] <peija-kas> greig_ might be painful to set up thou
[09:16] <fellacious> audio chat in ubuntu: am i correct in saying that there is no program for this functionality?
[09:16] <Aeolien> moosa: What's the manufacturer?
[09:16] <peija-kas> greig_ but wont hurt to try ;)
[09:16] <Andeh> void^: so they use what i said and the latest stable one?
[09:16] <moosa> dell
[09:16] <Andeh> ok
[09:16] <greig_> peija-kas, this is all painfull, first time on linus lol
[09:16] <peija-kas> oh :)
[09:16] <Andeh> Whats a good IRC client? Looks like i'll come here often :-D
[09:16] <eck> greig_: get off of him
[09:17] <Aeolien> moosa: Try F2 then.
[09:17] <fellacious> Andeh: try irssi
[09:17] <fellacious> or xchat
[09:17] <moosa> Aeolien: ok thanks
[09:17] <greig_> CheshireVikings being a good help;)
[09:17] <peija-kas> greig_ i just set up a friends cam and almost went nuts...and im not a new user ;) cams can be difficult because theyre often not officially supported
[09:17] <moosa> *boots*
[09:17] <greig_> eck:lol
[09:17] <Andeh> Which is the best for IRC with easy ways to use all the commands?
[09:17] <feniks> ok found ubuntu blog
[09:17] <feniks> l8r
[09:17] <fellacious> xchat is easy, irssi is powerful
[09:17] <eck> Andeh: irssi (and you're gonna start a flame war :-)
[09:17] <unh0ly_> Andeh: irssi.
[09:17] <Andeh> irssi for me then
[09:17] <Hansel> bitchx...  :x
[09:17] <greig_> peika-kas, i shall check the site u sent also and see how it goes, thanks
[09:17] <fellacious> irssi is the chat program of choice of the gaynigger association of america
[09:18] <Andeh> sudo apt-get install irssi?
[09:18] <peija-kas> Andeh yes
[09:18] <Danila> TheVault, thank you. When I write "lshw" command, I see that my wireless (eth1) is disabled. When I try to enable it by "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" I get "Connection timed up" message. I am very new to linux and do not know from where to start. I entered the necessary information in "network manager" program, but "search domains"  and "domain name"  fields are empty. Are they necessary (sorry if stpid question)? By the way I use ndiswrapper and my wireless mode
[09:18] <Andeh> Wow thats easier than i thought. Very standard, ubuntu :D
[09:18] <peija-kas> fellacious maybe you should leave for using that kind of language
[09:18] <Hansel> gg LjL  :)
[09:18] <Hansel> peija-kas, he is gone.
[09:18] <peija-kas> ops
[09:18] <peija-kas> :)
[09:18] <unh0ly_> And whats so bad about fellatio?
[09:19] <whta> wait what
[09:19] <Hansel> unh0ly_, don't tempt the gods (err.. ops)
[09:19] <peija-kas> on this channel, ONLY discussion of Ubuntu and help
[09:19] <peija-kas> nothing else thank you
[09:19] <unh0ly_> No problem. I was just confused. ;-)
[09:20] <MostKnown53> hey whats a good firewall for linux
[09:20] <liquiddoom> MostKnown53: Linux has a firewall built in
[09:20] <liquiddoom> MostKnown53: Install the package "firestarter"
[09:20] <LjL> !firewall
[09:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:20] <jaycie> how do i intall ubuntu6.10 from desktop after i have booted up with the cd in?
[09:21] <JohnPhys> MostKnown53: I think "iptables" is the system linux uses for the firewall, and most everything else is a frontend.  I use firestarter, but I'm not sure if that's being maintained anymore.
[09:21] <LjL> jaycie: click on the icon that says "Install"?
[09:21] <peija-kas> jaycie double click the Install icon
[09:21] <jaycie> hit the install icon?
[09:21] <unh0ly_> jaycie: You click the Install-icon on the desktop.
[09:21] <Aeolien> jaycie: Yeah, do that.
[09:21] <jaycie> ok thanks.. great.. can i sit here case i need more help?
[09:21] <peija-kas> yes
[09:21] <LjL> JohnPhys: no, iptables is a frontend too. the system linux uses is called netfilter
[09:21] <LaserLine> I have somthing that won't delete in the trash bin.  How do I force delete it?
[09:21] <Aeolien> jaycie: That's why we're here. :P
[09:21] <peija-kas> jaycie if you have a windows partition in the same machine, make sure to backup any important data!
[09:21] <hateyla> i just add a source in source.list after then i update my apt-get with 'sudo apt-get update" now how can i install selected package from select source?
[09:22] <JohnPhys> LjL: alrighty, thanks for the info
[09:22] <unh0ly_> LaserLine: cd into it via your console, then rm it.
[09:22] <jaycie> thanks muich Aeolien will it take along time?
[09:22] <eck> LaserLine: you can delete it at the command line, the trash direcotyr is ~/.Trash
[09:22] <Danila> Help wanted! : )   Subject Wireless installation.              When I write "lshw" command, I see that my wireless (eth1) is disabled. When I try to enable it by "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" I get "Connection timed up" message. I am very new to linux and do not know from where to start. I entered the necessary information in "network manager" program, but "search domains"  and "domain name"  fields are empty. Are they necessary (sorry if stpid question)? By the 
[09:22] <Danila> Can anybody help?
[09:22] <peija-kas> jaycie if you happen to make some mistakes in partitioning and accidentally erase windows etc
[09:22] <peija-kas> jaycie installing should take 20-30 mins in livecd
[09:22] <jaycie> peija-kas ok
[09:22] <unh0ly_> brbr
[09:22] <unh0ly_> -r
[09:22] <unh0ly_> ;)
[09:22] <Aeolien> jaycie: *Do* make sure you back up your hard drive if you are installing besides Windows.
[09:22] <NETWizz> I need help installing RAID
[09:23] <jaycie> Aeolien nope no windows
[09:23] <peija-kas> jaycie then no problem ;)
[09:23] <Aeolien> jaycie: Wonderful. It's a lot easier then.
[09:23] <Danila> :(
[09:23] <jaycie> i am tryin to get rid of ms.. but have 6 puters i think so it takes time and im new to linux
[09:23] <hume> hi...how can I play a dvd.iso, mounted loopback, in dapper?
[09:23] <peija-kas> oh yeh..well its best to learn by doing..
[09:24] <hume> mplayer seems to crash all the time
[09:24] <Aeolien> jaycie: Indeed.
[09:24] <peija-kas> hume try VLC player
[09:24] <eck> Danila: the error was connection timed up?
[09:24] <N3WB> Is it possible to get a PHP Script to restart a program lets say steam?
[09:24] <jaycie> yes peija yer rite, i hope the networking is not hard with the cable connection not wireless on this one
[09:24] <peija-kas> "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[09:24] <eck> N3WB: of course, if it had the proper permissions
[09:24] <X86echo> hello peeps
[09:24] <Andeh> !irssi
[09:24] <peija-kas> jaycie wired networking works better
[09:24] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[09:25] <jaycie> peija-kas so im told but is it hard to set up?
[09:25] <Aeolien> jaycie: What networking do you have? Modem? LAN? PPPOE?
[09:25] <peija-kas> jaycie youre on the net now :) so no its not hard
[09:25] <jaycie> dsl router linksys
[09:25] <NETWizz> I have a prolient ML 370 Server and wish to run Ubuntu Server on it
[09:25] <NETWizz> I cannot get it to work though
[09:25] <jaycie> i hear the cd working bout dont see anything going on
[09:25] <peija-kas> jaycie if youre on the livecd now?
[09:25] <NETWizz> RAID isn't supported
[09:25] <NETWizz> please help
[09:25] <jaycie> peija-kas i  didnt think so.. i ordered it online
[09:25] <eck> NETWizz: find out what raid card you have and then search the forums
[09:26] <rbellamy> what's the recommended way to add language bindings to gedit?
[09:26] <vijay> how do i get yahoo messenger??........... im behind proxy server and was unable to config gaim to use as yahoo messenger
[09:27] <N3WB> eck: How?
[09:27] <peija-kas> vijay you can use gaim thru proxy cant you?
[09:27] <msgmike> Hi again, I used the alternate iso installer for 6.10 and I'm still getting the orange screen with gibberish when I start up. I have an 7800GT PCIX videocard, could anyone shed some light on this problem? I think the OS installed OK, as grub is setup and loads up, I get to the username screen and when I login I see lines like bad pixels and an orange background.
[09:27] <vijay> ye but my p[roxy does not allow 5050 tunneling
[09:27] <eck> N3WB: i don't know php, but you would just have to send a kill signal to the program and then bring it back up with however you do system calls in php
[09:27] <jaycie> peija-kas should i see anything on desktop going on or jsut a mouse sittin there and hear the cd going?
[09:28] <peija-kas> jaycie try rebooting and doing it again
[09:28] <peija-kas> it should start a graphical installer program
[09:28] <eck> N3WB: it wouldn't be too much different from how you do it at the command line though
[09:28] <peija-kas> ive had it crahs sometimes
[09:28] <thugren> Hello, SO has anyone tried the kubuntu 6.10 in x64? Mine  keep freeze up at the video card init string?
[09:28] <Aeolien> jaycie: How old is that computer?
[09:28] <vijay> wht ever port i try to connect it gives errors
[09:28] <peija-kas> afk..
[09:29] <clearzen> thugren: I tried it and then I went back to 32 bit
[09:29] <thugren> I am going to see if I can get the 6.06 and see if it will work better?
[09:29] <jaycie> tis a dell um had ME on it
[09:29] <jaycie> deminsion4300.. not sure.. my sister gave it to us
[09:29] <thugren> clearzen why what is the difference?
[09:29] <clearzen> thugren: there is not as many available packages
[09:29] <clearzen> thugren: like flash
[09:29] <jaycie> its not doing anything that i can tell but the cd is running
[09:30] <msgmike> Hi again, I used the alternate iso installer for 6.10 and I'm still getting the orange screen with gibberish when I start up. I have an 7800GT PCIX videocard, could anyone shed some light on this problem? I think the OS installed OK, as grub is setup and loads up, I get to the username screen and when I login I see lines like bad pixels and an orange background.
[09:30] <clearzen> thugren: And it seems to be more buggy
[09:30] <mozul> anyone here know about installing ubuntu on a system with a raid card?
[09:30] <unh0ly_> msgmike: You can access your OS via Ctrl Alt F1-6. Then open your xorg.conf via vim and edit the first resolution listed in 24bit-section.
[09:30] <thugren> clearzen Aaaa.. That might explain my I can't get that system to work.
[09:30] <Aeolien> jaycie: Have you told it to boot from CD?
[09:30] <jaycie> Aeolien i hit install at the boot up screen
[09:31] <thugren> mozul What type of raid card do you have?
[09:31] <Aeolien> jaycie: OK, good.
[09:31] <unh0ly_> Just erase the first one, just see if it's a problem with your drivers. Alternatively just edit your device to vesa.
[09:31] <vijay> plz help me out...... i even cant instll the package from yahoo website also.... it gives me some dependencies error
[09:31] <Aeolien> jaycie: Have you seen any text since then?
[09:31] <mozul> Promise FastTrak TX2000
[09:31] <jaycie> Aeolien so still need to hit the INSTALL icon?
[09:31] <msgmike> unh0ly: how do I access vim?
[09:31] <unh0ly_>  - vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:31] <jaycie> Aeolien i hit the install desktop icon but hav not seen anything since.. just hear cd working
[09:31] <unh0ly_> without "-" in front of it.
[09:32] <NETWizz> Where are the forums
[09:32] <NETWizz> I need help installing RAID on an ML370
[09:32] <NETWizz> That is a Compaq Server
[09:32] <unh0ly_> Make sure to read the manual of vim and the beginner lesson for vim-users.
[09:32] <thugren> mozul Aaaa.. Well I did it with a promise ATA100 Raid. But I didn't seem to matter if it was drivers where raid.
[09:32] <Aeolien> jaycie: Make sure you double-click. The mouse cursor will turn to a spinning pinwheel while the "Install" window loads.
[09:32] <jaycie> i need to run out and do my chores will take bout half hour.. if this has not moved when i come back i think it wont work lol,, mouse diid work a bit i forgot but quit
[09:33] <jaycie> shall i double click it again?
[09:33] <Aeolien> jaycie: I don't see why not.
[09:33] <jaycie> ok ty
[09:33] <thugren> mozul, It would see 2 different drive even if I has them part raided..
[09:33] <unh0ly_> Hm. Just click it once, then hit Return.
[09:33] <jaycie> gr mouse is froze up
[09:33] <mozul> thugren: i tried instaling 6.10 from the alternative cd.  and it doesn't see the raid mirror when the bios does.  Promise has drivers for SUSE, redhat and turbo
[09:33] <unh0ly_> Hm. Not good, jaycie.
[09:33] <Aeolien> jaycie: Well, it's doing something :P
[09:33] <cappy> vijay: you can configure GAIM to work with your proxy, that's going to be the easiest way
[09:33] <K3nto> hey guys this may seem a lil bit off topic, but it kinda is. My isp keeps track of how much i download/upload. is there some whay to hide that from them?
[09:33] <jaycie> the cd is working
[09:33] <nexousNET> Hi
[09:33] <unh0ly_> K3nto: No.
[09:34] <clearzen> K3nto: yeah, mod your cable modem
[09:34] <nexousNET> I just installed ubuntu-server
[09:34] <unh0ly_> You cant't cheat you volume.
[09:34] <nexousNET> I just logged in via "cmd" What can I go about doing now?
[09:34] <K3nto> unh0ly_: somebody was telling me something about using proxy settings?
[09:34] <jaycie> ah shoot there went aeolien lol
[09:34] <clearzen> K3nto: you can uncap your bandwidth too, but the feds will kick down your door if you don't know what you are doing
[09:34] <thugren> mozul Yea.. I have tried to install that the x64 bit? but didn't get installed keep freeze up.
[09:34] <sethk> K3nto, no
[09:35] <erUSUL> nexousNET: to do what?
[09:35] <kitche> K3nto: umm it still goes though your ISP
[09:35] <unh0ly_> clearzen: Uhm, the ISP will still be able to connect the traffic to the account.
[09:35] <mozul> ok
[09:35] <thugren> mozul Are you using the i386?
[09:35] <Pollywog> why isn't ifrename in Ubuntu repositories?
[09:35] <sethk> K3nto, proxies are not going to hide anything.  if you download through their pipe to your machine, they'll see it
[09:35] <mozul> thugren: yes
[09:35] <K3nto> nuts
[09:35] <nexousNET> erUSUL: Well, I'm wondering what all I can do with ubuntu-server now, am I able to get a graphical interface?
[09:35] <unh0ly_> sethk: exactly.
[09:35] <jaycie> its been doing this for over 10 mins.. and its not doing anything on dt i think
[09:35] <nexousNET> or what that just be ubuntu desktop pretty much
[09:35] <K3nto> mkay, thanks for the destruction of hope :D
[09:35] <K3nto> lol
[09:35] <thugren> mozul Another thing to try is use the 6.06.
[09:35] <vijay> hey cappy but my schol proxy server does not allow 5050 port tunneling
[09:35] <unh0ly_> You're welcome.
[09:36] <vijay> so i cant cinfigure
[09:36] <vijay> it
[09:36] <clearzen> unh0ly_: you can sniff comcast with blackcat firmware and using nieboring mac addys to throw them off I think.
[09:36] <CheshireViking> greig_, are you still around? have you got anywhere with the webcam?
[09:36] <jaycie> what should i do.. its been 15 mins and done nuttin
[09:36] <thugren> mozul And When I install Suse to that raid Had nothing but headaches..
[09:36] <kitche> nexousNET: yes sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will install gnome with everything that a desktop ubuntu would have
[09:36] <greig_> im still here, still reading up atm
[09:37] <mozul> thugren: is it possible to press f3 during the cd boot process for ubuntu and install a driver disk like other distros can?
[09:37] <unh0ly_> clearzen: I don't think so. As I said, if they're not stupid, they will log the traffic to the account of the customer.
[09:37] <nexousNET> kitche: okay, what If I want xfce or some other thing? Rather than gnome
[09:37] <jaycie> i have to go now.. i think the ubuntu is not working .. bbl thanks
[09:37] <kitche> nexousNET: just do xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop if you want the otehr ones just install their packages
[09:37] <greig_> CheshireVikin: yea im here, still reading up about others having issues with it
[09:37] <nexousNET> okay
[09:38] <K3nto> gaaahhhhh. my sound in ubuntu isnt working
[09:38] <K3nto> i have a game in one workspace, and my music player in the other. i disabled the sound from the game and now theres no music
[09:38] <thugren> mozul  hmmm, I belive there is a hardware manger like that of suse and you can add your custom hardware?
[09:38] <CheshireViking> greig_, i've been looking round, came across this website of someone who sounds like the same problem as you - needing to install on a 2.6 kernal & having to use the patch as well, http://www.unixgroups.com/showthread.php?s=450747dd758333b1d62728b899fe2224&t=73189&page=1&pp=10 - i don't know if it'll help, also found this message about having to use the cvs files, not the main release - i can't help with that i'm afraid, but good luck
[09:39] <unh0ly_> Maybe its still using the sound-demon, just without any sound-ouput, K3nto?
[09:39] <mozul> ok thanks
[09:39] <thugren> mozul So what are the hard drive size that you are raiding?
[09:39] <greig_> Cheshireviking: thanks alot, i appreciate it
[09:39] <mozul> two 200 gig drives that are a mirror.  I want to put /home on that.
[09:39] <thugren> mozul and What Raid are you using?
[09:39] <K3nto> unh0ly_: maybe. how do i fix it
[09:39] <cappy> vijay: you could connect to your home computer then, and tunnel port 5050
[09:40] <CheshireViking> greig_, your welcome, just wish i'd been able to help better
[09:40] <unh0ly_> K3nto: The only way that comes to mind would be, to quit the player and the game.
[09:40] <mozul> thugren: ill put everything else on a single 200gig drive.
[09:40] <unh0ly_> Then start your music, followed by the game.
[09:40] <K3nto> ok
[09:40] <mozul> thugren: i really want raid 5 but dont have a card that will do it.
[09:40] <unh0ly_> That's how I'd do it with Q3.
[09:41] <K3nto> yesss
[09:41] <K3nto> unh0ly_: yep
[09:41] <unh0ly_> Worked? :)
[09:41] <K3nto> yep
[09:41] <unh0ly_> Fine.
[09:42] <thugren> mozul wow..    man what are you planing to do? ;) LOL.. Man I have a 40Gig Partion on my main pc and 12 gig on my laptop for ubuntu. AndI have add Almost every peice of software ubuntu has to offer and I still have like 5 gig or more left..
[09:42] <thugren> ;)
[09:42] <unh0ly_> thugren: Lots of music, movies and games, maybe? ;o)
[09:43] <anolis> anyone know anything about kiba-dock
[09:43] <mozul> thugren: we plan to put or music and pictures on the mirror (currently over 120g) and the non mirrored drive will be torrenting down any tv shows we want to watch
[09:43] <unh0ly_> Btw, I have a very stupid problem. I have and IDE hard disk, that I have to mount every time I boot.
[09:43] <thugren> unholy.. LOL.. Yea.. I guess.. But That is what CD and DVD are for.. ;)
[09:43] <anolis> and why when i run it it doesnt let me click on anything but kiba
[09:43] <Alonea> So, does Linux have any nice video editing software? like somthing similar to Pinnacle , Showbiz, Primier, etc.
[09:44] <kitche> unh0ly_: did you add that drive to your /etc/fstab?
[09:44] <unh0ly_> I know its being done in /etc/fstab, but I don't know how.
[09:44] <thugren> mozul.. Aaaa. Becare doing torrent service for games and ythat
[09:44] <unh0ly_> Don't I need to know the UUID?
[09:45] <kitche> unh0ly_: you cna use device names instead if you wish
[09:45] <mlalkaka> does anyone know of a good website where i can pay for and download music (without DRM)? the only one i could find so far is http://www.allofmp3.com.
[09:45] <knoppix> Servus!
[09:45] <unh0ly_> so /dev/hdb5 /home/user/name should be enough?
[09:46] <unh0ly_> Or do I need to add the filesystem too?
[09:46] <mozul> thugren: Thanks. cya later.  Ill try a driver disk later.
[09:46] <thugren> mozul and whatcha your bandwidth when your using the torrents..
[09:46] <kitche> unh0ly_: you have ot add the filesystem also like /dev/hdb5 /home/user/name/ filesystem 0 0 or 0 1 depending
[09:46] <mozul> thugren: FIOS rules
[09:47] <erUSUL> Alonea: maybe kino
[09:47] <unh0ly_> What does 0 1 and 0 0 mean?
[09:47] <FreeKFC_Guy> can i upgrade ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 from a cd
[09:47] <thugren> mozul ;) LOL..
[09:47] <Alonea> erUSUL: hmmm, some other guy said it sucks.
[09:47] <rbellamy> i need some remedial help... when i try to use "readline -p" in my script... it says that the command wasn't found...
[09:47] <thugren> mozul and money get priority. ;) Teehee
[09:47] <rbellamy> but i've got both readline-common and libreadline5 installed
[09:47] <erUSUL> Alonea: i can not say otherwise becouse i never used it
[09:47] <kitche> unh0ly_: man fstab will tell you about those
[09:47] <steve_> Lynoure: i removed all the old kernel vers via synaptic.  i watched the terminal window and noticed that it didn't find the files i moved, but kept going anyway
[09:48] <nexousNET> How do I get my ethernet connection working in server-edition?
[09:48] <unh0ly_> kitche: Ah, sure. Thank you!
[09:48] <Andeh> Hello again!
[09:48] <unh0ly_> Got to grab something eat. Laters. :)
[09:48] <erUSUL> nexousNET: configure it in /etc/network/interfaces and bring it up
[09:48] <rbellamy> so... my question is... is there a magic incantation i'm missing to get readline working in a bash script?
[09:48] <steve_> Lynoure: rebooted, and mythtv fired right back up.  as  long as i didnt' break that i'm happy :)
[09:48] <Andeh> I am back
[09:49] <nexousNET> erUSUL: I added 'auto eth0' and 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[09:49] <zafod77> quick question about mount points. I have a system with an smb share mount on it...the server went down before unmounting the drive now that the server is back up I'm trying to remount it but it sais the device is busy how can I regain control of it?
[09:49] <erUSUL> nexousNET: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:49] <nexousNET> erUSUL: okay brb
[09:50] <greig_> sorry, whats teh command to see what kernel im running again please?
[09:50] <Andeh_> Hello
[09:51] <FreeKFC_Guy> hey
[09:51] <FreeKFC_Guy> i gotta question aboiut installing ubuntu
[09:51] <Andeh_> How do i check if i am running KDE?
[09:51] <gunawan> hello
[09:51] <Andeh_> I think its gnome!
[09:51] <gunawan> im from indonesia
[09:51] <scv> oh
[09:51] <gunawan> im use ubuntu versi 5.01
[09:51] <zafod77> greig_: cat /proc/version
[09:51] <thugren> mozul and money get priority. ;) Teehee?
[09:51] <thugren> Opps
[09:51] <gunawan> im satisfied
[09:52] <thugren> Andeh what did you download?
[09:52] <FreeKFC_Guy> i want to upgrade to 6.10 from cd - is it possible
[09:52] <Andeh_> How do i check if i am running kde?
[09:52] <FreeKFC_Guy> andeh: which ver of ubuntu u running
[09:52] <Andeh_> Latest
[09:53] <Andeh_> Edgy Eft 6.10
[09:53] <thugren> andeh What version did you download? ubuntu kubuntu or edubuntu?
[09:53] <liquiddoom> Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[09:53] <Andeh_> UBUNTU and i did apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[09:53] <rennen01> ens1371 still not working fully.  just hearing static.  can anyone help?
[09:53] <Andeh_> about ten minutes ago
[09:53] <mallow23> hey, I just installed xubuntu 6.06 and was unable to log in . . . so I used the rescue disc and added a user but I dont have admin rights, how can I add admin privaleges?
[09:53] <hateyla> Andeh_: i m new but.. i want to say.. try to install it.. u just download it ... i think
[09:54] <gxr1> hi...
[09:54] <thugren> andeh, Going into log off and check the session's? You can log into and see what is there?
[09:54] <gxr1> is there any website that contains a list og repositories for ubuntu
[09:54] <Andeh_> well it was a kubuntu login screen
[09:54] <gxr1> i mean extra repositories for 6.10
[09:54] <Andeh_> but it looks exactly the same after
[09:54] <Andeh_> and i cant find the KDE options
[09:55] <thugren> andeh then it is more like the kde version?
[09:55] <void^> Andeh_: switch your session to kde on the login screen.
[09:55] <Andeh_> i dont know, i want to find out if i am running kde!
[09:55] <mallow23> can anybody help me?  I need to know how to give an acount admin rights through a terminal
[09:55] <Andeh_> everything but the desktop im in now looks like KDE but this is gnome i think
[09:56] <Andeh_> How do i make SURE that its KDE?
[09:56] <CheshireViking> greig_, if you can get somebody to explain about the CVS files, this sounds exactly what you need http://andatche.com/2006/05/27/nw802-webcam-linux-driver/
[09:56] <Andeh_> the login screen IS KDE
[09:56] <smarteeo> hi, I recently installed ubuntu on my thinkpad t41, and I am absolutely unable to get the trackpoint scrolling button to work. Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions. I have already tried as many of the google results as I can, but nothing seems to work
[09:56] <thugren> andeh, do what void just told ya..
[09:56] <darkfusion> hey guys gnome keeps renaming my hard drive end.end
[09:56] <kitche> Andeh_: look at the about
[09:56] <darkfusion> tried to change fstab but no luck
[09:57] <Andeh_> The only place to GET about is the gnome about
[09:57] <Andeh_> the login and boot says KUBUNTU but everything else is gnome
[09:57] <Andeh_> weird
[09:57] <rennen01> happened to me too
[09:57] <rennen01> i removed kde
[09:57] <kitche> Andeh_: then you are using gnome did you select kde before you logged in?
[09:57] <rennen01> and the usplash stayed kubuntu
[09:58] <rennen01> did you remove kde?
[09:58] <greig_> cheshireviking: yea looks right, im just going to read it, thanks:)
[09:58] <thugren> andeh But Do a Session change in the logging screen. You will see the KDE or Gnome, or lite or some others.
[09:58] <Andeh_> I didnt select anything, the login screen was KUBUNTU so i didnt think i had to
[09:58] <Andeh_> all the apps running now are GNOME
[09:58] <void^> think again
[09:58] <rennen01> when you install kubuntu it does that
[09:58] <Andeh_> it says so in sessions
[09:58] <Andeh_> ok
[09:58] <Andeh_> ill log out then?
[09:58] <Andeh_> bye
[09:58] <rennen01> no
[09:58] <smarteeo> does anyone here have a thinkpad that they have working with the trackpoint based scrolling?
[09:58] <rbellamy> in bash scripting, what's the difference between "select" and "readline" and why would one work (select) and not the other (readline)?
[09:58] <Flare183> has anybody gotten compiz to work with AIGLX
[09:58] <darkfusion> any idea on the hard drive renaming ?
[09:59] <robokop> how can i set x to autostart on boot?
[09:59] <rennen01> you have to un-install the kubuntu usplash to see the ubuntu instead of kubuntu again
[09:59] <brophat> booted with live cd get the msg "GNOME error. It says: Did not receive reply. Remote application did not send reply, security blocked reply, network conection broken." does that mean graphics card not compatible?
[10:00] <Flare183> has anybody gotten compiz to work with AIGLX
[10:00] <smarteeo> the touchpad scrolling works for me, but the trackpoint does not. I have tried modifying xorg.conf in many of the ways suggested online, but i cant make it work
[10:00] <smarteeo> help?
[10:00] <rennen01> no but i have beryl =)
[10:00] <FreeKFC_Guy> i tried to install ubuntu 6.10 on ubuntu 6.06 machine - installation goes fine but it get stuck at detecting system files - help
[10:00] <quaal> why does gnome partition editor not give me the option to make an ext partition
[10:00] <Flare183> beryl i know
[10:00] <rennen01> =(
[10:01] <bayziders> how do you edit your start up porgrams?
[10:01] <Flare183> I had fedora core 6 running with compiz and AIGLX but i couldn't connect to the internet so i switched back to ubuntu so i know that compiz will work i have tried to make it work but with no success
[10:02] <nexousNET> Do I have to install an extra repo to do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[10:02] <rennen01> bayziders System>Prefences>Sessions
[10:02] <robokop> how can i set x to autostart on boot?
[10:02] <rennen01> robokop System>Prefences>Sessions
[10:03] <Flare183> so can anybody help me?
[10:03] <brophat> booted with live cd get the msg "GNOME error. It says: Did not receive reply. Remote application did not send reply, security blocked reply, network conection broken." does that mean graphics card not compatible?
[10:03] <robokop> rennen01: i don't have gnome installed
[10:03] <Poul^Laptop> After i have reinstalled ubuntu, my other partions of my hardisk(those with windows on) Arent mountet, i cant see em like i used to? do i have to do anything special to see this?
[10:03] <rennen01> aw shucks =(
[10:03] <rennen01> one sec
[10:04] <Andeh> hello again
[10:04] <rennen01> hi
[10:04] <FreeKFC_Guy> hey
[10:04] <Andeh> i got kde running
[10:04] <lokam> how do i play rmvb movie files?
[10:04] <Andeh> its horrible :D
[10:04] <FreeKFC_Guy> candy
[10:04] <Flare183> I had fedora core 6 running with compiz and AIGLX but i couldn't connect to the internet so i switched back to ubuntu so i know that compiz will work i have tried to make it work but with no success
[10:04] <Flare183> so can anybody help me?
[10:04] <nexousNET> Do I have to install an extra repo to do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[10:05] <user-land> Is there a way to make the system realise a file is gone ?
[10:05] <rennen01> other than the internet howd you like the fc6 compiz?
[10:05] <robokop> nexousNET: not that i know
[10:05] <Jack_Minster> Hi, can anyone help me with my WRT54GX4?
[10:05] <Flare183> rennen01:> i really like it!
[10:05] <Jack_Minster> (Linksys PCI Adapter)
[10:05] <FreeKFC_Guy> which is better fluxbox or xfce - i mean performance wise
[10:06] <Flare183> just great
[10:06] <nexousNET> robokop: Well I just installed ubuntu server edition, added my ethernet connection. Internet works fine. When i run 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' it says package ... not found
[10:06] <rennen01> flare183: ill have to do that tonight
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> if i want to record the top and average cpu usage of a process - how do i? what im looking for is something similar to top, but for resources
[10:06] <GaiaX11> nexousNET: I think not.
[10:06] <Flare183> rennen01:> what do you mena
[10:06] <Flare183> rennen01:> what do you mean
[10:06] <rennen01> flare183: install fc6 compiz
[10:06] <robokop> nexousNET: do you have the internet repos installed or just the cd
[10:06] <rennen01> flare183: or at least start the install =)
[10:07] <Flare183> rennen01:> well try to connect to the net
[10:07] <nexousNET> robokop: not sure, what file has the repos listed in it?
[10:07] <blake__> \list
[10:07] <nexousNET> "/etc/apt/sources.list" isnt it
[10:07] <VR_> is there going to be another herd before the final release?
[10:07] <Flare183> rennen01:> i have a broadcom wireless pc card an i can't get it to connect on Fedora (WMP 11)
[10:07] <robokop> nexousNET: should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <nexousNET> robokop: k
[10:08] <quaal> how do i make an ext partition on a new drive? gparted doesnt seem to have the option
[10:08] <GaiaX11> nexousNET: right. Have a look there
[10:08] <GaiaX11> And enable the repos
[10:08] <robokop> can sb help me with setting x to autorun?
[10:09] <Flare183> rennen01:> and i can't even get it to connect
[10:09] <nexousNET> Wait, what will the repos be for server edition?
[10:09] <GaiaX11> robokop: Do you mean getting in without gdm asking for a pass?
[10:09] <nexousNET> Or should they just be commented in there right now?
[10:09] <Flare183> well had problems connecting to the net with the same card when i first got ubuntu but i wrote a script that fixed that
[10:10] <rennen01> Flare183: im not sure but if i see you in here later i will give you how my install is going
[10:10] <robokop> GaiaX11: don't have gdm but xfce4
[10:10] <Flare183> rennen01:> ok
[10:10] <wazzles> hey charlies
[10:10] <Flare183> i'll be here
[10:10] <GaiaX11> robokop: whatever.
[10:10] <robokop> robokop: and i wan't it to ask for a pass
[10:11] <robokop> but now i have to login first and then startx
[10:11] <N3WB> How to i set folder permissions?
[10:11] <quaal> chmod
[10:11] <GaiaX11> N3WB: chmod
[10:11] <Flare183> rennen01:> oh yeah by the way i have a ATI Radeon Graphics card if that helps
[10:11] <N3WB> a yes thats right, thanks
[10:12] <penius> what package installs Magick-config? I just did an apt-get install imagemagick and mogrify/compare/etc are there, but there's no Magick-config
[10:12] <quaal> does anyone know how to make an ext partition? gnome partition editor doesnt even give ext as an option for some reason
[10:12] <thugren> hey what is the ubuntu's Xconfigure file that I can type to do the x window fixing?
[10:12] <quaal> Xorg.conf ?
[10:12] <erUSUL> quaal: man mkfs
[10:12] <robokop> quaal: why whould you want ext instead of ext2 or ext3
[10:12] <quaal> erUSUL, thanks
[10:12] <quaal> robokop, i meant extx
[10:12] <quaal> 2 or 3
[10:13] <erUSUL> quaal: man mkfs.ext3 more precisely
[10:13] <quaal> ok
[10:13] <quaal> just thought there would be a gui or something
[10:13] <quaal> dunno why gparted would offer everything from msdos to amiga to bsd file system but not linux's native ext
[10:13] <robokop> quaal just checked mine has ext2 and ext3 options
[10:13] <quaal> hmm
[10:13] <quaal> weird
[10:14] <nolimitsoya> quaal,  why would you want ext to begion with? (or are we talkinjg about ext2/3?)
[10:14] <taigeR_`> tell me
[10:14] <nolimitsoya> *begin
[10:14] <N3WB> What do i need to write to get full permissions to folder "www" then? .-.-
[10:14] <nolimitsoya> N3WB, depends on what you want to do...
[10:14] <robokop> N3WB: you your group or everyone?
[10:15] <ferronica> How to open rar file
[10:15] <N3WB> Just me
[10:15] <N3WB> and all permissions
[10:15] <N3WB> read write delete create etc.
[10:15] <erUSUL> !rar > ferronica
[10:15] <nolimitsoya> N3WB,  you can either log in as a user with rights, chown it to make it yours, or add yourself to the group, or open the permissions for everyone. take a pick. :)
[10:15] <quaal> nolimitsoya, ext2/ext3
[10:15] <pepie34> is ther a devel feisty special irc channel somewhere?
[10:15] <jfalvarez> hey :), question, where can I look some fail error when I try to start a service, I mena, it just say "fail"
[10:15] <jfalvarez> :|
[10:15] <ferronica> erUSUL: yes rar
[10:15] <jfalvarez> *mean
[10:15] <N3WB> permissions for evryone..
[10:15] <ferronica> erUSUL: A .rar file
[10:15] <erUSUL> ferronica: see the pm from ubotu
[10:15] <robokop> N3WB: chmod 700 <file>
[10:16] <erUSUL> !rar
[10:16] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:16] <N3WB> (its a folder, works then too?)
[10:16] <robokop> N3WB: yes, but for the files in the folder add -R
[10:16] <nexousNET> It's still asking for cd
[10:16] <nexousNET> when I run install for xubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <rEvolution27> i messed up my xorg.conf and did a dpgk-reconfigure but i didn't tell it to include my laptop's native widescreen resolution... I don't even know what the native resolution is... Any ideas?
[10:17] <robokop> nexousNET: out comment the cd line
[10:17] <nolimitsoya> robokop, 700? sure you dont mean 777?
[10:17] <brophat> if live cd does not work on a particular box, then you could safely say that ubuntu is not compatible with that box?
[10:17] <robokop> nolimitsoya: 700 is just you
[10:17] <Priest-of-Psi> brophat: no
[10:17] <nexousNET> that'd be why :-p
[10:17] <nexousNET> brb
[10:17] <Priest-of-Psi> Linux/ unix is compatible with anything that does not run mac os
[10:17] <Priest-of-Psi> :D
[10:17] <nolimitsoya> robokop, yes, but thatd be daft for the www dir. then people wont be able to browse it :)
[10:17] <robokop> nolimitsoya: he asked for just him
[10:17] <brophat> Priest-of-Psi we are getting a gnome error. could it be that the correct video driver does not get installed with the live cd?
[10:17] <N3WB> with user rights 700 it shows nothing but with 777 it shows but still i cant add edit delete or anything just view the files and read them
[10:18] <fabio> olaa
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> brophat: gnome sucks anyway
[10:18] <robokop> N3WB: using a browser like firefox to view them?
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> its well developed
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> but I dont like it
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> :D
[10:18] <N3WB> File Manager
[10:18] <ferronica> erUSUL: how to open .rar
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> fluxbox for life!
[10:18] <brophat> Priest-of-Psi true. how do i get the live cd to load a different wm ??
[10:19] <X86echo> Konqueror is real slow for me for some reason
[10:19] <fabio> no puedo cambiar los permisos
[10:19] <fabio> que puedo hacer
[10:19] <robokop> N3WB: what if you try to edit them from comand line
[10:19] <erUSUL> ferronica: install unrar and use that command (unrar x file.rar)
[10:19] <VR_> brophat, you can't, each cd has only one wm
[10:19] <CheshireViking> greig_, just been playing around & trying a few things, using synaptic, i installed cvs, after that, i copied each line starting "cvs" from that last webpage i sent, that downloaded a directory to my home directory, then i just followed the instructions starting with the cp Makefile.26 Makefile etc, it still crashed out on me, but i'm not sure if i've got the kernel source that it says is needed.  Hope that helps a bit more
[10:19] <robokop> !espanyol > fabio
[10:20] <VR_> brophat, ubuntu has gnome, kubuntu kde, xubuntu xfce,  and so on...
[10:20] <X86echo> anyone know does this have to do with something I'm missing in the install
[10:20] <brophat> VR_ so even if i was to install ubuntu, I would be stuck initialy using the wm that comes with it?
[10:20] <nexousNET> Now it's coming up with errors
[10:20] <VR_> brophat, not necessarily
[10:20] <ferronica> erUSUL: i saved that .rar file on desktop
[10:20] <robokop> !spanish > fabio
[10:20] <greig_> CheshireViking: thanks i'll try that also and see if i get any further, i hope i get there in the end
[10:20] <VR_> brophat, you can always do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" if you wanted kde
[10:20] <Takoda_Sky> Does linux support WPA?
[10:21] <X86echo> well shoot it seems fine now
[10:21] <brophat> VR_ ahh ok.
[10:21] <VR_> brophat, or xubuntu-desktop, whatever you want
[10:21] <erUSUL> Takoda_Sky: depends on the wifi card driver
[10:21] <peter07> Takoda_Sky: yes
[10:21] <robokop> can sb help me with setting x to autorun?
[10:21] <nexousNET> It's possible to have xubuntu-desktop on server-edition right?
[10:21] <Takoda_Sky> I see
[10:21] <Takoda_Sky> well I obviously don't have that driver
[10:21] <robokop> nexousNET: should be yes
[10:21] <Takoda_Sky> ugh
[10:21] <brophat> VR_ if gome is giving probs on live cd, if i was to get the kde ubuntu disk, it may be ok?
[10:21] <Spanska> How can I install a new package from the command-line? I don't know the name of the package, I just want to install an application called "joe".
[10:22] <ferronica> erUSUL: i used this command   sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:22] <erUSUL> Takoda_Sky: what wifi card do you have?
[10:22] <eck> nexousNET: ugh, why would you want to have X11 on a server?
[10:22] <nexousNET> robokop: give me a minute, and I'll tell you the error
[10:22] <Takoda_Sky> was trying to get an older latitude up on the network so I could toy around with xubuntu a bit
[10:22] <eck> nexousNET: sure, you can do it if you really want
[10:22] <Takoda_Sky> one sec
[10:22] <X86echo> anyone want a hot cup of green tea?
[10:22] <VR_> brophat, what kind of problems are you having w/ gnome?
[10:22] <robokop> Spanska: try apt-cache search "joe"
[10:22] <ferronica> erUSUL: at ;ast it showed me this error -> E: Couldn't find package unra
[10:22] <peter07> Takoda_Sky: do you can connect to not encrypted network?
[10:22] <brophat> VR_ Did not receive reply. Remote application did not send reply, security blocked reply, network conection broken.
[10:22] <eck> X86echo: i do :-)
[10:23] <erUSUL> !info unrar
[10:23] <brophat> VR_ that is with live cd
[10:23] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[10:23] <pepie34> I'm looking ofr the linux-image-2.6.20-9 package because this is the only one to work on the macbook pro C2D on fesity
[10:23] <Takoda_Sky> haven't tried yet, in fact the encryption isn't really even nec. just do it as a safe gaurd
[10:23] <robokop> X86echo: no tea is evil COFFEE COFFEE
[10:23] <erUSUL> ferronica: you have to enable multiverse
[10:23] <brophat> VR_ the puter is a 1998 dell
[10:23] <pepie34> and it is not on the repository anymore
[10:23] <VR_> brophat, i think even if you tried the kubuntu cd, you'd be in the same spot because all it is, is just a different wm, but the same stuff under the hood
[10:23] <Verithrax> Hm, is it possible to install Beryl on herd 5? I'd like to test it.
[10:23] <pepie34> any idea where can i find it?
[10:23] <nexousNET> Well, I wanted server-edition because of the minimalisticness of it. I just wanted to have my server, with a minimal 'os'
[10:24] <eck> Verithrax: you could, but it comes with compiz which might be a better bet
[10:24] <Takoda_Sky> it's an IEEE 802.11b card.. need more info?
[10:24] <quaal> holy jesus
[10:24] <brophat> VR_ true it is probably a prob with X
[10:24] <robokop> pepie34: check #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[10:24] <nexousNET> Because ubuntu desktop had to much to get rid of for what I wanted.
[10:24] <Verithrax> Compiz won't work properly; it didn't on Edgy either at any rate.
[10:24] <brophat> VR_ you think it is a video card incompatiblity?
[10:24] <quaal> mkfs requires me to know the blocksize of the hard drive and all this bullshit?
[10:24] <cherva> i have a little problem when i copy a text from firefox then i close it and reopen it again the copied text is gone pls help
[10:24] <quaal> why doesnt my gparted just have ext2/3 in it ?
[10:24] <quaal> this doesnt make sense
[10:24] <X86echo> eck one for you robokop none for you  ;-)
[10:24] <eck> Verithrax: well pretty much all of the compositing code in beryl comes from compiz, so it will probably work if beryl will...
[10:24] <VR_> brophat, to be honest, i have no idea. i thought it was something with your network/internet connection...
[10:24] <peter07> Tokoda_sky: have you tried network-manager?
[10:25] <Spanska> robokop: it's found by that command
[10:25] <brophat> VR_ internet is not set up
[10:25] <X86echo> I cant dring coffie at this time I'll get real hyper and pull my hair out ;-)
[10:25] <Verithrax> eck: Beryl worked on Edgy; Compiz did not.
[10:25] <X86echo> drink*
[10:25] <robokop> Spanska: well then run sudo apt-get install "joe"
[10:25] <eck> Verithrax: well in any event, you can use beryl in feisty
[10:25] <brophat> VR_ could it be that the puter is not hooked up to the internet?
[10:25] <kevlar> okay installed ubunto, updates were interrupted i get this error dpkg --configure -a  ?????
[10:25] <pepie34> thanks robokop
[10:25] <Verithrax> Because I use AIGLX. Although, I'm not sure AIGLX is enabled in Feisty.
[10:25] <kevlar> install manually????????   wtf
[10:25] <ferronica> erUSUL: how to do this
[10:25] <Spanska> robokop: woah, thanks :D
[10:25] <Takoda_Sky> I just got it installed and running so no I haven't yet.. I just went to network settings and was gonna enter my WPA key and noticed it diodn't have a way of doing so
[10:25] <VR_> brophat, could be, yes... i think it's not recognizing your nic, or something
[10:25] <erUSUL> !repos | ferronica
[10:26] <ubotu> ferronica: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:26] <robokop> pepie34: np
[10:26] <robokop> Spanska: np
[10:26] <kevlar> dpkg --configure -a   ??????
[10:26] <Takoda_Sky> just WEP
[10:26] <brophat> VR_ there is not nic in the puter yet. but why would X need to have a nic installed?
[10:26] <void^> kevlar: try running that.
[10:26] <kevlar> it says i need superuser how do i switch??
[10:26] <Sam__> how well does wine work?
[10:26] <VR_> brophat, when exactly do you get that error?
[10:26] <robokop> kevlar: sudo infront
[10:27] <brophat> VR_ when the live cd is loading
[10:27] <eck> Sam__: it depends on the program you are running
[10:27] <brophat> VR_ X needs to have a nic installed?
[10:27] <VR_> brophat, no
[10:27] <robokop> Sam__: some programs work some barely some don't
[10:27] <Sam__> I am thinking about switching oto linuc
[10:27] <Sam__> *linux
[10:27] <VR_> brophat, i just *thought* that you were having internet-connectivity issues
[10:27] <brophat> ahh ok
[10:27] <VR_> i misunderstood
[10:27] <eck> Sam__: there are still components in the windows api that have not been written in wine, so those things will not work at all
[10:28] <kevlar> ahhhhhhh  sudo is the key
[10:28] <brophat> VR_ the live cd worked on another puter
[10:28] <brophat> so the cd is ok
[10:28] <Takoda_Sky> is network manager on xubuntu?
[10:28] <VR_> brophat, so you just get to X, and cannot boot into gnome, or whatever you're using, correct?
[10:28] <Sam__> photoshop, flash
[10:28] <Sam__> dreamweaver
[10:28] <Takoda_Sky> by the way..  I'm using ubuntu on this pc.. that's why I always come here
[10:28] <kevlar> why cant i browse my files folders?????
[10:28] <hateyla> is Amsn Support webcam chat?
[10:28] <peter07> Takoda_sky: the simplest way to use wpa is network-manager: please read this:http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[10:29] <eck> Sam__: i doubt it. flash will run on linux without wine, probably not dreamweaver or photoshop
[10:29] <brophat> VR_ gnome finally boots but it is real slow and all i get is the top menu bar, not the bottom one
[10:29] <Sam__> oh
[10:29] <Takoda_Sky> thank you very, very much
[10:29] <eck> Sam__: there are linux alternatives, of course
[10:29] <Sam__> for flash?
[10:29] <VR_> brophat, ok, that probably is an issue with graphics, yeah. might be a resolution problem
[10:29] <eck> Sam__: no, for the other programs
[10:29] <eck> there is a native port of flash to linux by adobe
[10:29] <VR_> brophat, either that or it could be a driver problem
[10:29] <robokop> Sam__: or dualboot for some time and see if it fits
[10:29] <kevlar> broken package??????
[10:29] <Sam__> yeah
[10:29] <peter07> Takoda_Sky: :( it's for gnome ...
[10:29] <ferronica> erUSUL: i have downloded one Movie file which is .rar compressed from torrent so i wanna open it.
[10:29] <brophat> VR_ I tried to play video and it said: Totem could not start up.
[10:30] <Takoda_Sky> that will definitely do the trick, thanks
[10:30] <robokop> argh still haven't x to autostart could sb help me with that
[10:30] <erUSUL> ferronica: allright, i have already told you what you have to do
[10:30] <kevlar> ou have 1 broken package on your system!
[10:30] <kevlar> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
[10:30] <brophat> VR_ can it be that a correct driver is out there, but is not part of the live cd?
[10:30] <ferronica> erUSUL: after adding repositories what i do
[10:30] <VR_> brophat, yes, that could be
[10:30] <eck> Sam__: tbh, if you're going to try to switch to linux but run all of your windows applications in wine, then what's the point?
[10:30] <kevlar> Broken filter; jesus christ
[10:30] <brophat> VR_ is there anyway to get it loaded while in live cd?
[10:31] <erUSUL> ferronica: install unrar
[10:31] <Sam__> I think linux is better but there are some programs that I can't do without
[10:31] <VR_> brophat, do you know what sort of graphics you have?
[10:31] <hateyla> can i use windows .exe setups in linux through WINE?
[10:31] <kevlar> ou have 1 broken package on your system!
[10:31] <kevlar> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
[10:31] <kevlar> ?????
[10:31] <ompaul> Sam__, nano, vi, emacs and the like - yeah we know
[10:31] <brophat> VR_ it is my brothers machine who I am corresponding with via email. his box is a 1998 dell
[10:32] <brophat> i told him to do a dmesg in terminal
[10:32] <brophat> he replied what is a terminal bwahahahaha
[10:32] <VR_> lol
[10:32] <eck> Sam__: you can install linux on a few gigabytes of space to just try it out
[10:32] <robokop> Sam__: dual booting would be a nice thing for you maybe
[10:32] <brophat> VR_ i am not familiar with gnome... where does one grab the terminal in gnome?
[10:32] <ferronica> erUSUL: should i do unselect two options that i did in repositories
[10:32] <Sam__> I think you can run your existing windows through xen
[10:33] <brophat> VR_ can terminal be gotten from top menu?
[10:33] <VR_> brophat, im not in linux right now, but yeah, it's under applications someplace.
[10:33] <Sam__> so I could keep it and never have to start into windows
[10:33] <erUSUL> ferronica: what options?
[10:33] <brophat> ok thanks
[10:33] <kalin> my fresh ubuntu installation hangs during startup while displaying the progress bar, is there some way to disable the loading screen so that i can see what failed to load?
[10:33] <samuraimak> Is gnome 2.18 included in edgy ports ?
[10:33] <brophat> VR_ it will say xterm?
[10:33] <kevlar> no mirc???
[10:34] <ferronica> erUSUL: that i did on software properties
[10:34] <eck> Sam__: that is possible, you would need to have a lot of ram though, at the very least
[10:34] <VR_> brophat, it'll just say "Terminal"
[10:34] <kalin> (booting into the installation using the installation cd, not from the systems bootloader)
[10:34] <Sam__> poop
[10:34] <kevlar> my wifi wont work
[10:34] <ferronica> erUSUL: universe and mulltiverse
[10:34] <erUSUL> ferronica: no you shouldn't there are many other usefull software in ther universe and multiverse repos it is a good idea to have them enabled
[10:34] <kevlar> in my laptop
[10:35] <eck> samuraimak: i highly doubt that gnome 2.18 will be backported to edgy
[10:35] <eck> samuraimak: it will be in feisty, however
[10:35] <samuraimak> eck, Can I get it from feisty ports ?
[10:35] <iAmTheDave> hey all
[10:35] <Spartacus> How do I get gcc-g++ for ubuntu edgy?
[10:35] <eck> samuraimak: you would be replacing like half of your system
[10:35] <eck> samuraimak: probably not
[10:36] <robokop> argh still haven't x to autostart could sb help me with that?
[10:36] <samuraimak> eck, better not :-) thanks
[10:36] <iAmTheDave> trying to install 6.10 from net install - only have a wireless card though (drivers are fine) - how can i configure the card to pick up the right open access wifi network?
[10:36] <quaal> oh..
[10:36] <eck> Spartacus: apt-get install g++
[10:36] <robokop> iAmTheDave: iwlist scan
[10:36] <quaal> this is not giving me the ext2/ext3 option to make a "disklabel"
[10:36] <quaal> not the partition
[10:36] <quaal> is msdos ok for the 'disklabel'
[10:36] <iAmTheDave> robokop: that'll not only give me a list but let me select one?
[10:36] <eck> samuraimak: feisty will be out in a month or so, however
[10:37] <kevlar> ??
[10:37] <eck> quaal: yes, that is correct
[10:37] <robokop> iwconfig <devicename> essid "<apname>"
[10:37] <quaal> gah
[10:37] <quaal> cant read
[10:37] <quaal> cool thanks
[10:37] <Spartacus> thanks, eck
[10:37] <jpjacobs> kevlar, not really, more like seperate desktops
[10:38] <iAmTheDave> robokop: and i can get the dev name from ifconfig right?
[10:38] <jpjacobs> !wireless > kevlar
[10:38] <kevlar> not helpful
[10:38] <robokop> iAmTheDave: yes
[10:38] <robokop> or from iwconfig
[10:38] <iAmTheDave> alright, thanks - gonna give it a go :)
[10:39] <kevlar> why do i have to enter the id?
[10:39] <brophat> VR_ live cd just takes a guess at what driver to use?
[10:39] <VR_> brophat, i think it just uses a generic one
[10:39] <jpjacobs> kevlar, be clear... id = essid of your accespoint?
[10:39] <kevlar> yes
[10:39] <jpjacobs> you can use any
[10:39] <kevlar> why cant it find it
[10:39] <kevlar> sure?
[10:40] <jpjacobs> are you looking on the right channel?
[10:40] <kevlar> if i need a password
[10:40] <jpjacobs> yes
[10:40] <brophat> VR_ ok and so conceivably it may likely not be good for a 1998 dell, but a good one could be gotten?
[10:40] <kevlar> its WPA
[10:40] <jpjacobs> wep should work without much toruble, for wpa, use wpa_supplicant
[10:40] <jpjacobs> trouble*
[10:40] <kevlar> hrm
[10:41] <VR_> brophat, yeah, if you know what sort of graphics you have, you could get another driver. i'm not very familiar with graphics issues, though
[10:41] <kevlar> how do i install beryl???
[10:41] <brophat> VR_ can dmesg be done with live cd?
[10:41] <Yeason> I just jumped in, but if you're talking WPA on old compies it works, I've got a Dell PII, year unknown, that talked to my WPA encrypted network without a problem
[10:41] <kevlar> which beryl do i install???
[10:41] <erUSUL> brophat: yes
[10:41] <VR_> brophat, i've never used it, don't know. sorry
[10:41] <brophat> erUSUL sweat
[10:42] <jrib> !beryl | kevlar
[10:42] <ubotu> kevlar: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:42] <brophat> VR_ so your best guess is a video driver issue?
[10:42] <kevlar> ubotu: yes but there are many there it is confusing
[10:42] <VR_> brophat, i'd say so
[10:42] <brophat> VR_ thats bud
[10:42] <brophat> i mean thanks bud
[10:44] <covert> Hey...I want to install Ubuntu on a 10+ year old computer, but the BIOS won't let me boot from CD.  What should I do?
[10:44] <erUSUL> !install > covert
[10:44] <kmarius> what's the name of the program that controls wireless settings in ubuntu? what's the /path/to/it?
[10:44] <asc> !install > asc
[10:45] <ferronica> erUSUL: So i did nothing wrong???
[10:46] <Pwnzorz> do you guys like suse 10.2?
[10:46] <erUSUL> ferronica: no afaics
[10:46] <hivemind> Hi everyone, I installed swiftfox but I don't know how to run it from console
[10:46] <hivemind> Anyone know the command?
[10:46] <hivemind> (It's not "swiftfox"
[10:46] <hivemind> )
[10:46] <Takoda_Sky> (had a phone call)  somebody commented about that being for ubuntu, packages install the same from ubuntu to kubuntu to xubuntu..  correct?
[10:46] <jfalvarez> hey, where can I find the mysql logs, I mean when I try to start it and it fails _
[10:46] <jfalvarez> ?
[10:46] <ferronica> erUSUL: what???
[10:47] <nooaa> hi guys somethings wrong with mysql im getting an error from phpmyadmin saying this------>>>#1045 - Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[10:47] <Flannel> Takoda_Sky: they're all the same thing, so yes.
[10:47] <Takoda_Sky> thought so
[10:47] <evo> hivemind: if you installed it through synaptic or a .deb look in the "installed files" section
[10:47] <zhelezka_> 
 is it man switfox?
[10:47] <kuzmaster> hey peoples
[10:47] <Takoda_Sky> ok.. gonna go try it out now, wish me luck
[10:47] <evo> for for something in /usr/bin
[10:47] <erUSUL> ferronica: no As Far As I Can See
[10:47] <erUSUL> ferronica: have you finally installed unrar ??
[10:47] <Pwnzorz> hivemind: try typin swiftfox... or browse the directory it installed itself in...
[10:48] <TheVault> Im back everyone
[10:48] <kuzmaster> !ntfs
[10:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:48] <robokop> argh still haven't x to autostart could sb help me with that?
[10:48] <Takoda_Sky> I'll need to plug in the ethernet *cable for this..  ugh..  gotta do some moving, see you all in afew
[10:48] <TheVault> If you can read my posts, then say TheVault
[10:49] <ferronica> erUSUL: yes i did thanx, do you know any book to or site where i learn ubuntu basic i am very new
[10:49] <ghata1> Hi, i run Edgy 6.10. Does Ubuntu have the Intel 965G driver for this distribution. I can not get proper resolution or 3D on my system. Can any one Help ?
[10:49] <void^> robokop: install a display manager, such as xdm or gdm or kdm
[10:49] <TheVault> ghata1: I can help you with that
[10:49] <erUSUL> robokop: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults'
[10:49] <TheVault> ghata1: You need 915resolution
[10:50] <ghata1> TheVault: it is not just the resolution, and i have tried that already. It does not work
[10:50] <kevlar> find gtkwifi great for roaming wireless
[10:50] <TheVault> ghata1: What are you trying to do?
[10:50] <robokop> erUSUL: no gdm here
[10:51] <asc> covert: I've been reading through that netboot guide, and it looks as though Debian's net-install-with-boot-floppies might be worth looking at, if you're not dead set on using Ubuntu.
[10:51] <ghata1> TheVault: I have WideScreen Monitor. 1680x1050 and using 915 did not work. I need the driver first. No 3D right now on 965G chipset that i have
[10:51] <Sam__> does beryl include xgl and compiz or is it something different
[10:51] <erUSUL> robokop: do as void^ said
[10:51] <Sam__> should I get xgl or beryl
[10:51] <erUSUL> Sam__: beryl runs on top xgl or aiglx
[10:51] <ubuntu__> bhgdjgjhgjg
[10:52] <TheVault> ghata1: Did you set 915resolution properly?
[10:52] <robokop> erUSUL void^: thanks
[10:52] <erUSUL> Sam__: beryl is a fork of compiz
[10:52] <Flannel> Sam__: #ubuntu-effects for Beryl/XGL/et al. support, thanks.
[10:52] <ghata1> TheVault: When i updated to Fiesty, the 3D was avaiable but resolution problem still did not get solved.
[10:52] <administrador> hola
[10:52] <nox-Hand> If I install Ubuntu with the install.exe, is it 100% sure that my Windows will not be affected?
[10:52] <Sam__> so I should just get beryl
[10:52] <administrador> any spanish?
[10:52] <Flannel> !es | administrador
[10:52] <ubotu> administrador: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:52] <TheVault> ghata1: Oh, then I can't help ya cause I'm not sure about whats new in Fiesty.
[10:52] <erUSUL> !es | administrador
[10:52] <ghata1> well i changed the /etc/default/915conf file.
[10:52] <TheVault> can someone help ghata1?
[10:52] <Flannel> ghata1: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[10:53] <TheVault> Thanks Flannel
[10:53] <Howdy125> Help ! .. sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[10:53] <Howdy125> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[10:53] <jpjacobs> nox-Hand, wth... now there is a "windows ubuntu-installer" or what?
[10:53] <ghata1> TheVault: Flannel: I switched back to Edgy as Fiesty was not stable on my system. I was noticing crashes etc and kernel Panic
[10:54] <erUSUL> Howdy125: sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[10:54] <Verithrax> Speaking of beryl... Beryl-core seems to be missing from the herd5 repos.
[10:54] <void^> Verithrax: beryl isn't in feisty.
[10:54] <Howdy125> ty erUSUL  .. I'll try that.
[10:54] <erUSUL> Verithrax: compiz is used in feisty
[10:54] <TheVault> ghata1: Well 915resolution was my problem for the resolution stuff. If you need help, then go to http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/08/20/absolute-beginner-guide-915resolution/
[10:54] <Verithrax> void^: Ah. I considered that, but it's odd given how the beryl config app is in the repos.
[10:55] <nox-Hand> jpjacobs: Yes sir
[10:55] <void^> just some leftovers
[10:55] <nox-Hand> jpjacobs: wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
[10:55] <void^> Verithrax: the beryl folks have a working repo online themselves
[10:55] <TheVault> ghata1: Cause I myself I think i have a 945gm chipset
[10:55] <Verithrax> Pity; Compiz won't work on my system under Ubuntu (Although it worked under Fedora)
[10:55] <kuzmaster> !compiz
[10:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:55] <Ohana> can someone please help. ive installed ubuntu using the alternate desktop cd, however i have the same problem: just before xserver is up, my monitor goes blank and i lose keyb/mouse input
[10:55] <kalin> using a super grub boot disk to boot into a fresh ubuntu install i get 'Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7'. As far as i can tell, 0x7 is a ntfs partition, but i'm not sure why the boot disk is trying to load off that, it appears to be selecting the correct partition to boot from, any ideas?
[10:56] <X86echo> I got to set auto spell checking in Konqueror when I type it does not do it anymore anyone know a trick ?
[10:56] <Ohana> can someone tell me how to boot ubuntu from a grub command line that will go straight to console please?
[10:56] <ghata1> TheVault: that is supported in i810 driver
[10:57] <kuzmaster> !Beryl
[10:57] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:57] <asc> Ohana: No, but I have two things that you might try, even if they probably won't work.  You can't switch to a console with ctrl-alt-F1?
[10:57] <TheVault> ghata1: Oh. Well I wish I could help. You said something about resolution problem and the first thing that came to mind was the 915resolution
[10:58] <Ohana> asc: tried that, didnt work unfortunately
[10:58] <ghata1> TheVault: I appreciate mate
[10:58] <Heroin> can somone help me setup a postfix mail server?
[10:58] <Ademan> how does ubuntu work on ppc?   Are there ppc versions of all(or most) of the binary packages? or what?  Do you have to compile all of the packages yourself?
[10:58] <TheVault> ghata1: Thnx. Just trying to be supportive and help as the same people do for me
[10:58] <asc> Ohana: Hit alt-sysreq (same as print screen key)-k.  I find that still works when they keyboard freezes.
[10:59] <asc> If that does work, you might be able to switch to a console then.
[10:59] <TheVault> ghata1: returning the favor is what i'm trying to do
[10:59] <bengb> Hi everyone, I am a beginner to ubuntu and just installed 6.10 via live cd.  documentation has referred to a disk manager in order to partition disks/create more space.  My problem is there is not any Disk Manager nor anything with "Disk" on it via System/Administration.  Any suggestions??
[10:59] <Ohana> asc: ok, ill give that a try. so its alt-sysrq-k... is that right?
[11:00] <asc> Ohana: Yeah.  Hey, I never realised I didn't know how to spell that....
[11:00] <Ohana> asc: lol. also, when this happens, i can't even ctrl-alt-del.... you think ths may work even though that doesnt?
[11:02] <asc> Ohana: I think it *might*.  It seems to bypass the X server; it works for me when nothing else does (even the numlock key).
[11:02] <jpjacobs> bengb: try gparted
[11:02] <Ohana> asc: ok, ill give it a try. you mind if i bug you again in the next 5 mins if it doesnt work? :p
[11:02] <jpjacobs> but there should be some diskmanager thing
[11:03] <asc> Ohana: Sure, but if it doesn't there's probably not a lot I can to to help. :p
[11:03] <Ohana> asc: no worries, ill let you know how i go, thanks again
[11:03] <kalin> is there any way to kill the graphical boot screen?
[11:03] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:03] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:03] <asc> kalin: Once, or permanently?
[11:04] <firefoxman> help! Ubuntu installer is hanging at the partitioning table. I clicked forward twice, and now it is on th e BUSY curser. Been like this for 20 min
[11:04] <hateyla> !install > hateyla
[11:04] <cyphase> *sigh* when will there be a good GUI configuration tool for X in Ubuntu..
[11:04] <kalin> asc, once, either via keyboard command or boot options from live cd boot screen
[11:05] <asc> kalin: switch to a console with control-alt-F1 and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[11:05] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:05] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:06] <orehon>  I have HP dv 2120us. When i plug in my headphone my speakers keep working. How can i fix it?
[11:06] <kalin> hmm, i tried ctrl-alt-f1, but it did not take me to a console
[11:06] <hateyla> cheeseboy: i m new but i would say first try to remove it. then try to install it again
[11:06] <cheeseboy> i did
[11:06] <bengb> jpjacobs, forgive me but what do you mean when u say try gparted? I am a serious newbi both to IRC and linux/ubunto.  I have been windows since 3.1, but can only be described as a user.
[11:07] <sdac221x_> how do i remove the ear-splitting system  beep sound in xubuntu edgy ?   Everytime im on earphones and im working on some document i get this annoying sound.
[11:07] <asc> kalin: Hrm.  Is the screen frozen or something?
[11:07] <kuzmaster> !pastebin
[11:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <covert> erUSUL: SBM doesn't recognize my cd drive
[11:07] <covert> Does anyone know what to do if SBM doesn't recognize the drive?
[11:08] <livingdaylight> Q: can somone help me setup samba?
[11:08] <kalin> it does freeze during startup and usually displays some corrupt loading screen graphics - but since i was busy typing here after a long time it actually made its way into ubuntu successfully but there is no mouse control and gnome has some error during startup
[11:08] <hateyla> !samba > livingdaylight
[11:08] <kalin> trying to figure out how to get into console for now, but ctrl-alt-f1 or f7 doesn't seem to do it
[11:09] <kalin> or ctrl+alt+backspace/esc, i'm sure i used to use something like that once
[11:09] <thak> does anyone know how to change the desktop environment (from xfce to enlightenment, for example)?
[11:09] <livingdaylight> hateyla: i installed swat but where is it?
[11:09] <covert> Does anyone know what to do if SBM doesn't recognize the drive?
[11:09] <erUSUL> covert: what sbm is?
[11:09] <jim> livingdaylight: dpkg --help
[11:10] <Ohana> asc: well.... it didnt work :(
[11:10] <Pollywog> !samba > pollywog
[11:10] <livingdaylight> jim: what?
[11:10] <covert> SmartBootManager...it is supposed to allow you to pick any drive to boot frome
[11:10] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:10] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:10] <covert> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:10] <asc> kalin: Heh, you're the second person in five minutes I wish I had a spare machine to test this on.  If you kit alt-sysrq-k, it should (hopefully) kill the display, and then might let you switch to a console.
[11:10] <asc> *hit
[11:10] <asc> Ohana: Did it do anything at all?
[11:11] <jim> livingdaylight: you just asked a question... running the command will give you a partial answer in addition to whicyh
[11:11] <recon39> can someone help me add to the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:11] <jim> you will see all the little things dpkg can dop
[11:11] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:11] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:11] <Ohana> asc: well.... i tried it before and after the problem occurs. if i did it after the screen dies, nothing. same prob. if i did it before: the startup process halts, but we blank screen again
[11:11] <livingdaylight> jim: what does dpkg have to do with swat?
[11:12] <Ohana> asc: it obviously does SOMETHING... just not what i hoped it would do :(
[11:12] <jim> did it come from a package?
[11:12] <recon39> i am trying to get a dvd to play and need to add to a /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:12] <livingdaylight> Can someone actually help me with samba and dont' give me !samba and all that coz it is goobledeegook to me
[11:12] <recon39> help me please
[11:12] <jim> think things through... it's good for you
[11:12] <kuzmaster> eh eh eh eh... i seem to be having troubles with my sources.list (my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10823/)
[11:12] <livingdaylight> i need a samba guru, who can walk me through
[11:12] <Ohana> asc: i was speaking to someone else about this yesterday and they thought that i would need to reconfigure my xserver. if i could just get to the console, i might be able to fix this
[11:13] <asc> Ohana: Hrm.
[11:13] <kuzmaster> when ever i do sudo apt-get update i get this output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10822/
[11:13] <jim> why would one be here? what about #samba?
[11:13] <kuzmaster> alot of 404's
[11:13] <kuzmaster> :(
[11:13] <quaal> anyone know of a guide that explains the chmod command. i just did chmod 777 on my new drive's mountpoint but i have no idea what 777 means
[11:13] <livingdaylight> jim: wtf has dpkg to do with swat?
[11:13] <orehon>  I have HP dv 2120us. When i plug in my headphone my speakers keep working. How can i fix it?
[11:13] <livingdaylight> Yea, Anyone can go !samba
[11:13] <asc> Anybody know if there's a GRUB option to boot to runlevel 1 instead of 2?
[11:13] <jim> did swat come from installing a package? yes or no
[11:13] <livingdaylight> does anyonen know something about samba?
[11:13] <orehon> livingdaylight: i am trying to configure it! :P
[11:13] <recon39> does anyone know how to get a dvd to play on ubuntu
[11:13] <Lynoure> !anyone | livingdaylight
[11:13] <ubotu> livingdaylight: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:13] <hexidigital> !anyone > livingdaylight
[11:14] <jim> if YES and the question is WHERE IS SWAT, dpkg can tell you.
[11:14] <jim> you don't need a guru for that
[11:14] <air0day> Anyone here familiar with how to use Groovy as a unix scripting language?
[11:14] <kalin> Ohana, my bootup eventually went through to X after leaving it for a very long time, but froze within here
[11:14] <livingdaylight> orehon: i asked my real question, if you only bothered to read it
[11:14] <asc> Ohana: Do you have access to the drive it's booting from, right now?  Can you access the files?
[11:14] <Sam__> should I get beryl or just xgl
[11:15] <Ohana> kalin: sounds like we're having the same troubles
[11:15] <brokenbin> hi guys
[11:15] <livingdaylight> orehon: sorry, i am trying to configure it too
[11:15] <brokenbin> how do you install ubuntu from harddrive
[11:15] <kalin> yeah, i managed to boot from th super grub boot disk now
[11:15] <brokenbin> i have read stuff on the net
[11:15] <brokenbin> but they don't seem to work
[11:15] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: please do not do that
[11:15] <kalin> it got to drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c, v2.6:USB HID core driver
[11:15] <Ohana> asc: not really, im dual booting xp :( unless you know of a way to acess a linux partition from xp...
[11:15] <livingdaylight> !anyone | Lynoure
[11:15] <kalin> then it hung for about 4min
[11:15] <ubotu> Lynoure: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:16] <orehon> livingdaylight: first i need to fix my sound driver
[11:16] <Flare183> can't stay bye
[11:16] <livingdaylight> orehon: do you know how to configure this samba
[11:16] <jim> Sam__: fvwm2 or mwm or twm or sawfish or enlightenment or scwm or windowmaker or ... (lots more, pick one, try it)
[11:16] <recon39> am I in the wrong room for help on ubuntu?
[11:16] <Ohana> asc: im doing a google atm on how to boot runlevel1 w/ grub
[11:16] <kalin> and now it dropped to a (initramfs) shell with '/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off'
[11:16] <asc> Ohana: It's possible, but I don't know how to do it.
[11:16] <orehon> livingdaylight: no too much... but you can find a lot of tutorials at google.com
[11:16] <brokenbin> anyone?
[11:16] <skull> Sam_ well both :>
[11:16] <air0day> how do I make the whole #!/usr/bin/env shebang work for shell scripts? it can't seem to find executables i need...
[11:16] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: ok, I get it, you do not want to be helped.
[11:16] <kalin> Ohana, i have xp on primary drive and ubuntu on a secondary drive, is your configuration similar?
[11:17] <bruce1354> can browse from my root directory to files and folders on a network server?
[11:17] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: no you don't get it you moron
[11:17] <Ohana> kalin: my primary is partitioned: 10gb to xp and 10gb to linux
[11:17] <jim> orehon: s/he is evidently unwilling to help himself, and is also fairly hostile as well
[11:17] <livingdaylight> !anyone | Lynoure anyone can do that
[11:17] <hexidigital> livingdaylight:  that's not necessary
[11:17] <ubotu> Lynoure anyone can do that: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:18] <kalin> hmm, ok, i'm wondering if my input devices are causing a problem, the g15 keyboard seems to be detected ok, and i think the g5 mouse is, i'm not sure what input device it seems to be hanging on
[11:18] <recon39> 8-)
[11:18] <livingdaylight> hexidigital: i'm frustrated especially with people like Lynoure who give their !anyone commands
[11:18] <kalin> i thought maybe it was the USB portable drive too
[11:18] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: You clearly have a bigger problem with me than with samba, I hope you solve both
[11:18] <hexidigital> livingdaylight:  ask more specific questions....
[11:18] <air0day> /usr/bin/env doesn't seem to work for me in the first line of scripts - how do i fix it?
[11:18] <wazzles> i can't get on my wpa encrypted access point; i just got ubuntu installed
[11:18] <BigLebowskiMac> livingdaylight: As i imagine it's frustrating to be asked vague questions all the time
[11:19] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[11:19] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: I would have helped you with samba, but understandably not anymore.
[11:19] <recon39> help me please!
[11:19] <livingdaylight> hexidigital: specifically, i need help setting up samba full stop. i dont know where the guis are or how to configure
[11:19] <BigLebowskiMac> livingdaylight: the support is free, people offer up their own time to help people, if you cant be bothered to form a good question, why should they help
[11:19] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i do to all of my internet conenctions going through my privoxy tor proxy?
[11:19] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: you never were going to otherwise you would have instead you gave me your !anyone command
[11:19] <sirwilliam> do you guys know if amd turion64 mobile proc should be considered athlon-xp athlon-mp athlon64 or k8??  trying to configure apt-build btw...
[11:20] <livingdaylight> BigLebowskiMac: if someone really wanted to help they could ask. As it is i have been specific.
[11:20] <air0day> hey can you take a quick break from arguing with each other and help me real quick? i think it's probably an easy fix
[11:20] <recon39> am I in the wrong room for help with ubuntu setup?
[11:20] <jim> livingdaylight: if you take out your frustrations on a channel full of people who might otherwise have been willing to help you and THEN you are seen by all these helpers calling someone a moron, why in HELL should anyone help you now? (unless you are prepared to pay their rate for consultation of course)
[11:20] <BigLebowskiMac> livingdaylight: You don't think describing the problem as apposed to 'anyone know anything about samba'  would help?
[11:20] <Ohana> asc: i think ive figured it out
[11:20] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: I only anyone people I could possibly help. But, well, I'll stop wasting my time on you
[11:20] <asc> Ohana and kalin: It looks like to boot to a runlevel you just add the number to the beginning of the kernel boot line.  You'll want to boot to runlevel 1, in order to not start X.  Information from here: http://www.fedorafaq.org/basics/ ; hopefully it's distro independent.
[11:20] <BigLebowskiMac> livingdaylight: Also, i would attempt to help, but i have never had the need to set up samba
[11:21] <Ohana> asc: i was just about to say that! :p
[11:21] <livingdaylight> BigLebowski i have posed my question regarding samba several times in differnt ways
[11:21] <Ohana> asc: i just found that in google
[11:21] <Ohana> asc: ill try and report in ;)
[11:21] <asc> Ohana: So who wins the race? :)
[11:21] <jim> but I digress... assuming you keep your frustration (something you built up in your own mind) to yourself, someone will be along shortly
[11:21] <recon39> can anyone help me
[11:21] <sirwilliam> i'm trying to configure apt-build...do you guys know if amd turion64 mobile proc should be considered athlon-xp athlon-mp athlon64 or k8??
[11:21] <Ohana> asc: bah, you take the medal, you've been a big help. ill let you know how i go
[11:21] <air0day> god. this channel is such a waste of time
[11:21] <asc> Ohana: good luck.
[11:22] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: please stop it. You have really winded me up with your ! command. I have been very clear i need help with samba, configuring settging up the whole 9yards.
[11:22] <livingdaylight> jim: wow...
[11:22] <asc> kalin, you catch that?
[11:23] <kalin> yep thx :)
[11:23] <jim> livingdaylight: getting the picture yet? :)
[11:23] <asc> Righto.
[11:23] <kalin> trying it now from the live install disc
[11:23] <recon39> livingdaylight can you help me get a dvd player set up need to add libdvdcss to ubuntu
[11:23] <jim> either be nice to the volunteers or hire someone
[11:23] <livingdaylight> recon39: sure
[11:23] <recon39> thank you
[11:23] <BigLebowskiMac> recon39: look at restrictedformats on the wiki
[11:23] <kalin> well that's neat, it started the graphical bootup and i hit alt-sysrq-k and it drew a nice green line across the center of the screen
[11:24] <livingdaylight> recon39: go to ubuntuguide.org and scroll down to adding libdvdcss
[11:24] <recon39> I have looked at them
[11:24] <mbac> developers developers developers developers
[11:24] <livingdaylight> recon39: i think it is sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[11:24] <asc> Well that's something. :p
[11:24] <livingdaylight> jim: are you enjoying yourself at my expense?
[11:24] <kalin> indeed lol
[11:24] <lisapc> my download speed is 1.59 MB/s (1632 KB/s).  Is that good?
[11:24] <BigLebowskiMac> You may need to add repos, not sure
[11:24] <asc> I mean, you can't argue with green.
[11:25] <kalin> yeah, it was a particularly nice hue
[11:25] <asc> lisapc: Yes, that's good.
[11:25] <recon39> ok I read where i need to add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list this line here deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[11:25] <recon39> but I dont know how to add it
[11:25] <livingdaylight> jim: i asked plenty of times before Lynoure vexed me and i called him a moron which was personal to him. Ofcourse i didn't hear from you before..
[11:25] <mrbrdo> anyone knows anything about this error "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode"? i'm getting it while trying to run video4linux (v4l-conf) or xawtv.. so tv tuner related
[11:26] <mrbrdo> i use nvidia's drivers from envy
[11:26] <linuxnewbie755> i just upgraded from dsl to charter cable, and it doesnt work with my dapper drake, but works fine on this windows pc. why?
[11:26] <asc> kalin: Hmm, okay.  You're trying to boot from the desktop install CD?
[11:26] <mrbrdo> and direct rendering works.. and i'm not using beryl at the moment
[11:26] <BigLebowskiMac> recon: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:26] <dmitri> hello, how can i use apt to install some program if i already have the .deb packages?
[11:26] <mrbrdo> dmitri: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:26] <BigLebowskiMac> dmitri: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:26] <mrbrdo> lol.
[11:26] <BigLebowskiMac> Damnit, got beat :P
[11:26] <linuxnewbie755> my dapper drake box worked fine with the dsl, but isn't working at all with this cable.
[11:27] <livingdaylight> jim: i think samba is a hot-potato no one reall wants to help with coz its complicated
[11:27] <asc> dmitri: put the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives and do what they said.
[11:27] <mrbrdo> asc: there's no need for that
[11:27] <linuxnewbie755> dmitri, can't you just install the .deb by clicking on it?
[11:27] <BigLebowskiMac> why would he need to put the package in the apt cache?
[11:27] <razzorz> is there a way for ati capture card tro work with ubuntu..
[11:27] <livingdaylight> jim: so now you have a good excuse because i called your cousin a moron
[11:27] <recon39> ok thanks
[11:27] <dmitri> mrbrdo: BigLebowski no, I want to use the apt-get install mozilla for example
[11:28] <asc> mrbro: News to me, but my system's a little screwy.  Presumably they have to be in the current directory, then?
[11:28] <BigLebowskiMac> dmitri: what's wrong with using dpkg if you already have the .deb?
[11:28] <asc> *mrbrdo
[11:28] <mrbrdo> dmitri: if you have the deb package downloaded, then you must use dpkg and not apt-get
[11:28] <asc> Oh, dpkg/apt, never mind.
[11:28] <void^> livingdaylight: if you need generic samba help you might want to try #samba or ask a specific question here
[11:28] <livingdaylight> i asked for help with samba but no one wants to help but when i call someone a moron suddenly everyone has wise words abouthow they were just about to help me but now they won't and how my quesiton is not clear. Common Guys!
[11:28] <mrbrdo> dmitri: if you want to install a package from the ubuntu repos then just use apt-get install whatever
[11:28] <livingdaylight> void^: i need ubuntu samba help
[11:29] <void^> livingdaylight: interesting.
[11:29] <dmitri> I know but I have 2 cds of packages and the packages are named different
[11:29] <dmitri> you understend?
[11:29] <livingdaylight> void^: besides they'll just give me more websites to look at
[11:29] <kalin> asc, yeah, live install cd.. it seems to have booted into it now, but it's in the install-mode, not from the drive
[11:29] <mrbrdo> dmitri: dpkg -i each package..
[11:29] <dmitri> I try to put them on /var/cache/apt/archives/ but still not working
[11:29] <razzorz> anyone?
[11:29] <linuxnewbie755> anyone use charter internet with dapper?
[11:29] <asc> kalin: Oh, we can work with that.  Shiny.
[11:29] <mrbrdo> dmitri: are you trying to do an offline update\install of some sort?
[11:29] <hateyla> Where i can found Vlc And mplayer?
[11:29] <dmitri> exact
[11:29] <kalin> it is shiny
[11:29] <BigLebowskiMac> dimitri: you still haven't said whats wrong with just installing with dpkg?
[11:29] <briguyd> hateyla, have you installed them?
[11:30] <orehon>  I have HP dv 2120us. When i plug in my headphone my speakers keep working. How can i fix it?
[11:30] <BigLebowskiMac> And if its on the cd, you could add the cd to sources.list
[11:30] <mrbrdo> dmitri: check around the ubuntu wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com type offline update or something like that, maybe only offline
[11:30] <wazzles> is there any way to get wpa to work out of the box in ubuntu 6.10?
[11:30] <hateyla> briguyd:  want to download them..
[11:30] <briguyd> hateyla, "sudo apt-get install mplayer vlc"
[11:30] <briguyd> in the terminal
[11:30] <briguyd> or you could use synaptic
[11:30] <firefoxman> Help. I am installing xubuntu, it freezis when I tell it to resize the partition table to 40%.
[11:31] <asc> kalin: You'll want to mount the partition that Ubuntu is installed on somewhere.  something like 'mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/ubuntu-partition /mnt/ubuntu'
[11:31] <dmitri> BIgLebowski for example I want to install mozilla, I am shure that I have the .deb package but in hundred packages I dont know witch it is and maybe it needs some depencies
[11:31] <dmitri> understend?
[11:31] <shadowhywind> anyone have any ideas why nvidia drivers will work on external monitor and not on my laptop monitors?
[11:31] <hateyla> briguyd:  something problem..
[11:31] <hateyla> Package vlc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:31] <hateyla> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:31] <hateyla> is only available from another source
[11:31] <hateyla> E: Package vlc has no installation candidate
[11:31] <poningru> hateyla: please dont paste
[11:31] <BigLebowskiMac> ahh, add the cdrom
[11:32] <hateyla> poningru:  sorry
[11:32] <BigLebowskiMac> apt-cdrom add
[11:32] <BigLebowskiMac> i believe
[11:32] <BigLebowskiMac> And then apt-get update
[11:32] <BigLebowskiMac> you should be able to install the packages then
[11:32] <dmitri> BigLebowski something like that :)
[11:32] <bayziders> In kde how do you manage start up programs?
[11:33] <kalin> asc, is mount /dev/sdb -t ext3 /mnt/ubuntu valid?
[11:33] <jonathan_> hola q tal
[11:33] <briguyd> is VLC in universe?
[11:33] <firefoxman> Help. I am installing xubuntu, it freezis when I tell it to resize the partition table to 40%. This happens wheter I am installing ubuntu, xubuntu, or kubuntu
[11:33] <ardchoille> bayziders: I haven't used kde in a while but I think it's ~/.kde/config/startup os some such.
[11:33] <jonathan_> alguien habla espaol
[11:33] <briguyd> hateyla, i think you have to enable some extra repositories
[11:33] <kalin> it syas 'wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb'
[11:33] <xtknight> !es | jonathan_
[11:33] <ubotu> jonathan_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:33] <hateyla> briguyb : how ?
[11:33] <bayziders> It isn't grahpical like in gnome?
[11:33] <hateyla> briguyd:  i m Newbie
[11:33] <jonathan_> gracias
[11:33] <asc> kalin: sounds like it should work, though you can probably exclude the -t ext3; it should be able to detect fs type.
[11:34] <mbac> kalin, mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /mnt/ubuntu ?
[11:34] <xtknight> kalin: sdb is not a partition
[11:34] <briguyd> hateyla, try "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:34] <BigLebowskiMac> Yes vlc is in universe
[11:34] <mbac> to me it looks like you have the options in the wrong order
[11:34] <kalin> ah, i was wondering that, i'll try sdb1 :)
[11:34] <hateyla> briguyd:  then?
[11:34] <briguyd> hateyla, then uncomment the lines having to do with the universe repositories
[11:34] <firefoxman> Help...
[11:34] <asc> Ooh, yeah.  sdb1 or something.
[11:34] <void^> livingdaylight: i've grep'd the log for your samba question. why not use system->administration->shared folders to set up a simple share? if you want to access it from windows without using a password you have to set "security = share" in smb.conf. i think that about covers your question, as far as i can see.
[11:34] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: with what, exactly?
[11:34] <xtknight> kalila: unless you have some freak partition table.  but 99.999999% of the time you'll want sdbx where x is the partition number
[11:34] <asc> ./slap self
[11:34] <mbac>  /dev/sdb COULD be a partition ;)
[11:34] <briguyd> hateyla, (by uncomment, I mean remove the "#")
[11:34] <xtknight> mbac: beat you to that
[11:34] <xtknight> :D
[11:34] <kalin> yeah, sdb1 worked
[11:34] <firefoxman> BigLebowskiMac: I am installing xubuntu, it freezis when I tell it to resize the partition table to 40%.
[11:35] <kalin> hurrah, now i can hax the files
[11:35] <mbac> *sigh* let me just give up
[11:35] <firefoxman> The installer.
[11:35] <livingdaylight> void^: coz i know nothing about setting up and using samba ^^
[11:35] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: I'm not sure what to suggest, other than do it manually with fdisk, unless you're trying to resize an ntfs partition
[11:35] <firefoxman> It is a NFTS
[11:35] <bayziders> well how do you do it in gnome?
[11:36] <firefoxman> Is that a problem?
[11:36] <Sebboh> I want to create a dummy package that "provides" evolution.  How do I do that, or something else that will achieve the same goal?  (I want to keep ubuntu-desktop installed but not evolution...)
[11:36] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: in which case it may be bad blocks on the ntfs partition, etc, too full, etc.
[11:36] <firefoxman> Only using 50 gb of a 111 gb disk
[11:36] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: try doing a chkdsk and defrag, see if that helps, and make sure atleast 40% of it is free.
[11:36] <oopsy> can someone help me out?
[11:36] <void^> livingdaylight: i don't see why you'd have to know about setting up samba when using a shiny gui for it.
[11:36] <firefoxman> So, what should I do??
[11:36] <asc> kalin: Now we just need to know how to disable gdm without breaking things.  One way would be to 'gedit /mnt/ubuntu/etc/inittab' and change the fourth line to 'id:1:initdefault:', but there's probably a better way.
[11:36] <BigLebowskiMac> oopsy: with what?
[11:36] <oopsy> BigLebowskiMac
[11:36] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: see my above comments, that would be the first step, the second being manual partition with fdisk.
[11:37] <oopsy> my pc won't boot in ubuntu
[11:37] <aedes> has anyone gotten a usb2ps2 connector to work?
[11:37] <hateyla> briguyd:  yeah i edit and save the file now ?
[11:37] <BigLebowskiMac> oopsy: thats a little vague, what's happening when you try?
[11:37] <oopsy> it just sits there, in Configuring Network interfaces
[11:37] <firefoxman> So, I just defrag?
[11:37] <livingdaylight> void^:  well, i mean i didn't even know that was a gui i could use for that. :( NOw i've found it :) and wondering how to set it up so i can access windows
[11:37] <briguyd> hateyla, "sudo apt-get install mplayer vlc"
[11:37] <Sebboh> aedes, I've done that for a mouse, but not a keyboard.
[11:37] <oopsy> with no "ok" confirmation
[11:37] <hateyla> ok
[11:37] <oopsy> then it switches from graphical boot screen to plain text
[11:37] <oopsy> and stays that way
[11:37] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: Yeah, defrag then chkdsk, if the problem persists, try using fdisk.
[11:37] <aedes> Sebboh: was it automatically recognized?
[11:37] <hateyla> briguyd:  still same error
[11:38] <mbac> has anyone developed an open source alternative to mathematica?
[11:38] <asc> kalin: Um, I've never tried it, but if you 'apt-get install sysv-rc-conf' then 'chroot /mnt/ubuntu sysv-rc-conf' it might work correctly and let you edit startup services for the installed copy.
[11:38] <firefoxman> thx
[11:38] <briguyd> hateyla, hmm
[11:38] <briguyd> hateyla, i have to go, im sorry, you're going to have to ask someone else
[11:38] <firefoxman> Thanks, BigLebowskiMac!
[11:38] <kalin> asc, hmm, there appears to be no inittab file there
[11:38] <Sebboh> aedes, uh, I don't know what you mean by automatically recognized.  ..Well, yes, I guess so.  I've never had a ps2 mouse fail to be recognized..
[11:38] <firefoxman> I will try that.
[11:38] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: hope that helps.
[11:38] <livingdaylight> void^: so, i've added a shared folder
[11:38] <hateyla> briguyd: : np man thanks :)
[11:38] <briguyd> can someone help hateyla install VLC and mplayer?
[11:38] <oopsy> BigLewboskiMac, any ideas?
[11:38] <asc> kalin: Okay, that's... um, interesting.
[11:39] <aedes> Sebboh: I've got things plugged in, but the kernel isn't creating any devices and dmesg doesn't say anything about it
[11:39] <BigLebowskiMac> oopsy: Try booting from the livecd, mount your ubuntu partition, and comment out the lines in /etc/network/interfaces, then try booting and see if you can fix, only thing i can think of, i never had that problem
[11:39] <Sebboh> hum
[11:39] <asc> kalin: Does the directory /mnt/ubuntu/etc exist?
[11:39] <Sebboh> dunno aedes
[11:39] <BigLebowskiMac> I'll brb, gotta get a drink
[11:39] <livingdaylight> void^: i've left comment out
[11:39] <ardchoille> hateyla: I installed mplayer with: sudo apt-get install mplayer mplayer-fonts
[11:40] <kalin> asc, yeah, most things appear to be there - init.d and other things that look normal (i dont know linux filesystem all that well though)
[11:40] <oopsy> how do I mount my ubuntu partition BigLebowskiMac?
[11:40] <xtknight> Sebboh: i believe what you want is called  a "virtual package"  perhaps ask #debian  http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html#s-virtual_pkg
[11:40] <hateyla> ardchoille:  not going install here.
[11:40] <ferronica> my ubuntu 6.06 LTS never show me correct time what i do????
[11:40] <BigLebowskiMac> oopsy, mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/ubuntu
[11:40] <asc> kalin: Hum, it looks as though there's no inittab in Edgy.  I've been doing upgrades since breezy, so I guess mine is a leftover.
[11:40] <BigLebowskiMac> brb
[11:40] <ardchoille> !mplayer
[11:40] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[11:40] <hateyla> ehmm damn i aint update the apt-get :>
[11:40] <ardchoille> hateyla: Did you enable the multiverse repo?
[11:41] <oopsy> thanks
[11:41] <Sebboh> thank you xtknight
[11:41] <hateyla> ya
[11:41] <kalin> asc, well, i suppose that's better than a missing file :)
[11:41] <linuxnewbie755> is there any reason my dapper install shouldn't work with charter cable? it worked fine with dsl, and right now the cable works fine on this windows machine.
[11:41] <xtknight> Sebboh: actually you could just add something to your debian status file to fake it into thinking it has a virtual package installed, without the need for an actual deb at all
[11:41] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:41] <ardchoille> hateyla: What does it say when you try to install it?
[11:41] <hateyla> ardchoille:  well i forget to update apt.
[11:41] <cheeseboy> how do i fix?
[11:41] <ardchoille> hateyla: lol
[11:41] <hateyla> ardchoille:  now i update it maybe now it will be fine
[11:41] <livingdaylight> void^: where in the smb.conf do i put "security=share" ?
[11:41] <asc> kalin: I'll work on that.  Edgy uses a different system... try the sysv-rc-conf thing for now.
[11:42] <void^> livingdaylight: you don't need samba/a shared folder to access a share on your windows box. you should be able to browse windows shares on your network with nautilus out of the box (sorry, i'm a little occupied here)
[11:42] <ardchoille> hateyla: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer mplayer-fonts
[11:42] <Ohana> asc: well, i got to console...
[11:42] <ardchoille> hateyla: I think it will
[11:42] <xtknight> where is the master debian status/control file that contains all the package names and version/dependencies/etc information?
[11:42] <livingdaylight> void^: will i also be able to print from either computer?
[11:42] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:42] <cheeseboy> how do i fix?
[11:42] <void^> livingdaylight: it should have commented out line with security = user, just modify that (and the ;)
[11:42] <hateyla> ardchoille:  can i paste ya in pm
[11:42] <BrendanM> Ok, so for some reason touching near the bottom of my touchpad makes firefox navigate forward/backward. This feature is really annoying. Anyone know how to turn it off?
[11:42] <helfrez> dang feisty keeps geting stuk at 90% installing
[11:42] <cheeseboy> help
[11:42] <ardchoille> hateyla: Sure
[11:42] <Ohana> asc: and i was able to use the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:43] <Ohana> asc:
[11:43] <devtrash> BrendanM: what touchpad?
[11:43] <kalin> asc, sysv-rc-conf has no installation candidate (but is referred to by another package), perhaps it has been removed too?
[11:43] <Ohana> asc: but i get an error when i finish configuring
[11:43] <lolole> hi
[11:43] <BrendanM> laptop touchpad, it's synaptics
[11:43] <void^> livingdaylight: yes, you can print to samba printers.. but due to the nature of the smb protocol you need to setup the printer with drivers as if it was a local printer.. read the wiki about that.
[11:43] <lolole> is there a mac-os-x equivalent for wine?
[11:43] <lolole> or a mac os X emulator
[11:43] <BrendanM> devtrash, I have qsynaptics installed and I disabled horizontal scrolling
[11:43] <xtknight> Sebboh:  gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:43] <devtrash> BrendanM: look in your xorg.conf file should be a setting in there
[11:43] <asc> kalin: gah.
[11:43] <BrendanM> devtrash, it's only in FF
[11:43] <devtrash> BrendanM: hmmmmm odd
[11:43] <kalin> lolole, i think some people have managed to get macosx running on a VM
[11:44] <asc> Ohana: When you try to start GDM, or does the configuration tool itself break?
[11:44] <BrendanM> devtrash, I think it's a FF feature somewhere
[11:44] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:44] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:44] <zach> how do I configure X
[11:44] <linuxnewbie755> does ANYONE use charter internet? with dapper?
[11:44] <lolole> kalin, ah i see... thing is i don't have mac os ;)
[11:44] <BigLebowskiMac> cheeseboy, remove the previous installation?
[11:44] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755, i did
[11:44] <kalin> lolole, i hear the OS image is on the internets :)
[11:44] <Sebboh> xtknight, cool!  Thanks!
[11:44] <cheeseboy> BigLebowskiMac , yes
[11:45] <Ohana> asc: the tool itself breaks as far as i can tel. this is the error: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.[random numbers] 
[11:45] <xtknight> Sebboh: you know how to add a virtual pkg there?
[11:45] <zach> how do I configure X
[11:45] <jrib> zach: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <cheeseboy> Help!
[11:46] <jrib> !helpme | cheeseboy
[11:46] <ubotu> cheeseboy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:46] <BigLebowskiMac> cheeseboy: try apt-get remove <packagename>
[11:46] <asc> Ohana: That sounds okay - it's just saying that you're making a new configuration.
[11:46] <Sebboh> xtknight, I think so.  The document you linked to has a lot of information.
[11:46] <BigLebowskiMac> Cheeseboy: if it still fails, sudo dpkg -P <packagename>
[11:46] <Ohana> asc: hmm... yet it still blanks on me
[11:46] <Ohana> asc: its literally just like if someone were to unplug my monitor
[11:47] <asc> Ohana: Um, interesting.  This happens when you start gdm?
[11:47] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, did you have to do anything extra?
[11:47] <Ohana> asc: like it has no signal. its not like the screen just turns black. it literally is not being sent any signal from my pc
[11:47] <ab12> hello!
[11:47] <dg10050> is "apt-get clean" safe? It just removes cached packages, right?
[11:47] <Ohana> asc: here's a noobie question. whats GDM?
[11:47] <ab12> what's the repo name that include package skype
[11:47] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755, no
[11:47] <BigLebowskiMac> dg10050: yes.
[11:48] <dg10050> ok
[11:48] <dg10050> thx
[11:48] <asc> Ohana: gnome display manager.  The graphical login screen.
[11:48] <cheeseboy> -p isnt working
[11:48] <Ohana> asc: and whats the console command to load that?
[11:48] <asc> ohana: sudo gdm
[11:48] <livingdaylight> void^: i can't find security=user  in teh smb.conf
[11:48] <livingdaylight> Ohana: do you know samba?
[11:48] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, i don't get it. my box worked fine with bellsouth dsl, but won't work at all with this charter. i don't understand why. maybe because i disabled ipv6, i am just downloading 6.10 right now, going to start from their. any ideas?
[11:48] <Ohana> asc: well i spose ill give that a try too
[11:48] <asc> Ohana: I can't imagine any reason it would blank while you're at a console.
[11:48] <Ohana> livingdaylight: probably not enough to be of any real help :(
[11:49] <BigLebowskiMac> cheeseboy, uppercase P
[11:49] <cheeseboy> i did
[11:49] <cheeseboy> im still gettin sme error
[11:49] <asc> khana: Well, Edgy doesn't have sysv-rc-conf either.  Fascinatin'.
[11:49] <Ohana> asc: it doesnt blank while in console. only just as xserver or gdm (i dont know which one) Is about to load
[11:49] <asc> *khalin
[11:49] <asc> *kalin
[11:49] <kaiden> Anyone else experienced this problem with the nVidia Drivers to where they will work fine, except if you ctrl+alt+f1 etc out to a different tty you can't get back into X (it freezes when you ctrl+alt+f7) then when you reboot you get errors everytime you start X until you reinstall the nvidia driver?
[11:49] <asc> ./slap self again
[11:49] <xtknight> asc: sure it does
[11:49] <xtknight> !info sysv-rc-conf | asc
[11:49] <xtknight> :)
[11:49] <ubotu> asc: sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-5 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[11:50] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 , you can always get a router
[11:50] <asc> xtknight: Then why is there no installation candidate for kalin?
[11:50] <xtknight> asc: no idea
[11:50] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, well, i tried directly to the modem, didn't work, i tried through a switch, (works fine for this windows machine, modem and switch). i have an old dsl router thing, would that do it?
[11:50] <xtknight> kalin: what version of ubuntu and what architecture?
[11:50] <Ohana> asc: ill try sudo gdm and report
[11:50] <firefoxman> Help.
[11:51] <asc> Ohana: It'l most likely break in the same way.
[11:51] <firefoxman> I have norton GoBack installed, will it not work with linux?
[11:51] <kalin> xtknight, 6.10 desktop, x86
[11:51] <xtknight> sysv..rc installs fine here
[11:51] <xtknight> hmm
[11:51] <jrib> firefoxman: ask norton
[11:51] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 , is internet just not working?
[11:51] <firefoxman> how
[11:51] <kalin> xtknight, strange
[11:51] <asc> xtknight: Yeah, me either.  I've been upgrading; I figured that it might be a leftover, like my inittab file.
[11:51] <cheeseboy> or you not getting connected?
[11:51] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, on this windows, working fine, but hasn't worked at all with my linux box.
[11:52] <purpleplether> i'm having trouble
[11:52] <firefoxman> also computer will not let me run chkdisk
[11:52] <slipttees> OSx86 Development Platform CPU: Intel Pentium D 2.80GHz @ 2.8GHz [SSE3/PAE/XD/EM64T/DualCore]  L2 Cache: 1024K FSB: 200MHz RAM: 351.5MB/512.0MB Virtual: 543.69M/1024.00M Disk: 57.4GB/113.69GB Display: GeForce FX 5200 [256 MB/CI/QE/Q2DE/Natit]  1024x768@60Hz OS: Mac OS X 10.4.8 (8L2127) Kernel: Darwin 8.8.1 Net: [en0/In: 205.99MB/Out: 8.25MB]  Uptime: 
[11:52] <slipttees> 2:16
[11:52] <jrib> firefoxman: http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/support/index.jsp
[11:52] <kkrusty> Im having some problems with apt-get update, there are a couple of "404 not found" and one with "public key not found".
[11:52] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755, usb or ethernet?
[11:52] <peija-kas> slipttees no posts like that here plz
[11:52] <firefoxman> !pastebin | slipttees
[11:52] <linuxnewbie755> ethernet on both
[11:52] <ubotu> slipttees: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:52] <c01100011> happy st pats day everyone, i have a peculiar problem. T60p installed 686-smp kernel (apt-get install  linux-68....) rebooted, it isn't in the grub menu. Did a grub-update, still not there. tried all options there doing uname-r they are all what they say they are (not 686-smp)
[11:53] <purpleplether> everytime i download something from the synaptic package manager, i can never find it
[11:53] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, do you know if charter uses/requires ipv6?
[11:53] <void^> livingdaylight: pastebin your smb.conf
[11:53] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 , and otherstuff has worked on that ethernet port on linux?
[11:53] <asc> kalin: Eh, run synaptic.  Go to settings->repositories->Ubuntu 6.10 and make sure all the boxes are checked.
[11:53] <kalin> hmm, i can't see how to change the default runlevel without inittab
[11:53] <jrib> firefoxman: note that the system requirements do not list linux, but do list various windows version
[11:53] <kkrusty> does anyone know whether the media.blutkind.org repository is working?
[11:53] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, yes, bellsouth dsl, i spent forever trying to disable ipv6, because it made dsl slow, now im thinking maybe charter needs it to work.
[11:53] <asc> universe should be checked by default I think, but maybe it isn't for some reason.
[11:54] <matthew_> what is a good spam filter for Linux that will work with thunderbird?
[11:54] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, you using charter and dapper now?
[11:54] <kane77> is there any benchmarking utility?
[11:54] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 , im on charter on edgy now
[11:55] <jpjacobs> kane77, apt-cache search bench
[11:55] <asc> kalin: after doing that, but 'reload' in the main window and search for sysv-rc-conf
[11:55] <asc> *hit
[11:55] <kalin> yeap, dling package info now
[11:55] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, well, im downloading that right now, 370k a sec (so fast compared to dsl), almost finished, i'll see what a fresh install does. (booting off the live disk should work shouldn't it?)
[11:56] <lolole> is there a floor plan designer for linux?
[11:56] <Ohana> asc: sudo gdm.... same problem :(
[11:56] <antotos> hi all from Italy
[11:56] <asc> kalin: If we're really lucky it may just be that your package list was unhappy.
[11:56] <livingdaylight> void^: thank you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10827/
[11:56] <lolole> or some architecture design program
[11:56] <jpjacobs> lolole, try qcad/xfig with their libraries
[11:56] <asc> Ohana: Yeah, you probably need to get a working xorg configuration before starting GDM.
[11:56] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 ya if your internet works on the livecd ull be fine
[11:56] <Ohana> asc: im thinking of trying to reinstalling using vmware to test this as opposed to rebooting all the time
[11:56] <purpleplether> everytime i download something from the synaptic package manager, i can never find it......can anyone help
[11:56] <lolole> jpjacobs, ah ok thaks
[11:57] <asc> Ohana: Are you by any change using an ATI video card?
[11:57] <cheeseboy> A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:57] <cheeseboy> Failure
[11:57] <cheeseboy> Execution aborted.
[11:57] <aild> what program can I use to create a torrent file... someone know?
[11:57] <void^> livingdaylight: line 91, remove ; and replace user with share
[11:57] <Ohana> asc: yeah i am
[11:57] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:57] <Ohana> asc: ati radeon x800se
[11:57] <asc> Ohana: Oh, well in that case we can just blame everything on ATI and go on our merry way. :p
[11:58] <Yeason> I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on an old ibook but the computer isn't showing the cd at the boot selection screen. anyone know where to start?
[11:58] <Ohana> asc: lol, i thought that might be coming :p
[11:58] <asc> Ohana: I'll do a little searching.
[11:58] <Sebboh> xtknight, I added these lines to the status file: Package: hobbes-evol-blocker, Status: install ok installed, Version: 1.0, Provides: evolution  .. Then I do an apt-get install hobbes-evol-blocker and it says already newest version..  But then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop still tries to install evolution...  I missed something.
[11:58] <Ohana> asc: thanks so much
[11:58] <livingdaylight> void^: ahh..under the authentication section.
[11:58] <kraypius> How do i install new screensavers?
[11:58] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, go into somewhere and delete /vmware. i think it is wherever you installed it before. or at least tried to.
[11:58] <c01100011> upgraded kernel to smp-686, it does not show up in grub even after grub-update. any advice ?
[11:58] <void^> livingdaylight: and restart samba, something like sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:58] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, you have to sudo rm -R ~~~~/vmware.
[11:58] <asc> Ohana: When you did 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', what video driver did you choose?
[11:59] <Ohana> asc: ati
[11:59] <livingdaylight> void^: i have to take the ';' semicolon away to uncomment yes? and replace user with 'share'?
[11:59] <francois> hi, when i try to install sun-java5-jre is says that there is no installation candidate, but refered to by other packages, solution ?
[12:00] <Sebboh> linuxnewbie755, cheeseboy, uh, manually deleting directories that vmware was installed to isn't a good idea, because it installs to /usr/bin, and other main system directories.  You want to run the uninstaller script that it came with.
[12:00] <purpleplether> please help me
[12:00] <Sebboh> francois, I think that you need to select the right repository..
[12:00] <linuxnewbie755> Sebboh, well, it worked for me, but i agree with you, i just didn't know it came with one.
[12:00] <asc> Ohana: Out of curiosity, how old is that card, about?
[12:00] <Sebboh> dpkg tell francois about java
[12:00] <kalin> x800 is only a few years old