[04:27] <r4nge> i dont quite understand the re-read.. i removed an entry from event.d and then terminated the process and it just restarts
[04:05] <AlexExtreme> \o/
[04:05] <AlexExtreme> My upstart-native jobs worked
[04:24] <_ion> \/
[04:50] <AlexExtreme> hmm, when i say worked... they booted ok, then when i tried to shutdown, they broke badly :)
[05:38] <AlexExtreme> http://members.optusnet.com.au/clausen/ideas/upstart/index.html << does that have any relationship with the upstart we have now?
[05:43] <_ion> Probably not. :-)
[05:43] <_ion> I'll try to get the sysblock program done some day.
[05:44] <_ion> So you can do 'sysblock --physdev /dev/mapper/vg-root' and receive '/sys/block/sda /sys/block/sdb'
[05:44] <_ion> Or 'sysblock --dev --physdev /dev/sda1' and receive '/dev/sda' etc.
[05:45] <AlexExtreme> cool
[05:48] <_ion> And also the 'locking' program, so you can e.g. start 'locking sda sdb -- fsck /dev/mapper/vg-root' and 'locking sda -- fsck /dev/sda2' etc. simultaneously and have locking(1) take care of not running 
[05:48] <_ion> multiple fsck instances on a single physical device.
[05:51] <AlexExtreme> cool
[06:03] <_ion> The idea on the mailing list about having the fsck job do something like 'initctl variable append filesystems-checked /dev/mapper/vg-root', 'initctl variable append filesystems-checked /dev/sda2' and the mount job do something like 'initctl variable list filesystems-checked | while read filesystem; ...' and 'initctl variable remove filesystems-checked /dev/sda1' etc. is really nice IMO.
[06:06] <AlexExtreme> :)
[06:06] <AlexExtreme> i might try to make a patch to do that sometime
[06:07] <_ion> The ordering of the names in the list shouldn't matter, and there shouldn't be any duplicate entries.
[06:07] <_ion> That is, duplicate entries should be ignored.
[06:08] <AlexExtreme> yes
[07:07] <concept10> Hello all.  Quick question, is bootchart compatible with upstart?
[07:11] <_ion> I don't see why not.
[07:19] <AlexExtreme> concept10, yes, i've used it with it
[07:19] <concept10> _ion, AlexExtreme thanks guys
[07:21] <AlexExtreme> mbiebl, do the upstart packages in experimental work on sarge or do i need unstable?
[07:22] <mbiebl> AlexExtreme: You'd have to recompile them.
[07:22] <AlexExtreme> damn
[07:22] <AlexExtreme> oh well
[07:23] <mbiebl> I'm also not sure if the 2.6 kernel in sarge is recent enough and has inotify support.
[07:23] <mbiebl> AlexExtreme: recompiling is simple then
[07:23] <AlexExtreme> meh, probably the glibc and gcc in sarge are too old
[07:25] <mbiebl> hm, right.
[07:25] <AlexExtreme> one day etch will be out and it'll probably work there :)
[07:26] <AlexExtreme> i would upgrade to testing anyway if my debian machine wasn't a server
[07:26] <mbiebl> he
[07:50] <AlexExtreme> damn
[07:50] <AlexExtreme> i keep forgetting to add upstart-devel to CC when replying to the list
[08:21] <mbiebl> AlexExtreme: http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension