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cellofellow http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/sound-debug12:25
cellofellowno tarball12:25
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cheeseboymaxamillion you still there?12:41
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cheeseboycan someone help me out?12:46
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kupowhats going on cheeseboy ?12:52
cheeseboytryin to setup multi-seat system12:53
cheeseboycan you help me out?12:53
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kupooh nah cheeseboy you prolly should as over in #xorg12:57
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cheeseboyno help there either01:11
ormiretI'm probably not much help either, but, what is the problem?01:14
cheeseboytryn to setup gdm for multiseat01:17
cheeseboydon't get how to change the file01:17
kupono you don't want to mess with gdm01:22
kupothats your display manager01:22
kupoit starts and stops xsessions01:22
cheeseboyhttp://netpatia.blogspot.com/2006/09/multiseat-v-gdm-and-xkb.html01:22
cheeseboysays to01:22
kupoi don't know anything about how Xephyr works01:25
cheeseboyX(01:25
PuMpErNiCkLeWhat's the problem you're facing while changing the file?  I don't see anythign in particular missing from the instructions.01:25
PuMpErNiCkLes/anythign/anything/01:25
cheeseboythe problem is im dumb and am editing it rong01:26
cheeseboycan you pastebin me an example of what it should look like?01:26
PuMpErNiCkLegdm.conf is a bit big to paste entirely - what problems are you facing with the conf snippet on the site?01:28
cheeseboyi duuno if i delete everything or what i delete..01:29
cheeseboycan you give me whole [server]  section?01:30
PuMpErNiCkLeThat's what they gave you on the site.  Just replace your [servers]  section with theirs.01:31
crimsunkupo: what did you need?01:36
cheeseboyhttp://pastebin.ca/39817401:37
cheeseboylike that...?01:37
PuMpErNiCkLeYeah, though you'll probably want to comment out line 571, too.01:40
cheeseboywait opps01:40
cheeseboyediting wrong file..01:40
cheeseboydoh01:41
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cheeseboyoh my gaws01:46
cheeseboygawd*01:46
cheeseboyit works01:46
PuMpErNiCkLewoot01:47
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noenoehi01:48
noenoewhat kinda games kinna i install?01:48
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cheeseboynow to set up keyboards..01:49
cheeseboymodel = "pc105"01:49
cheeseboykeycodes = "evdev"01:49
cheeseboylayout = "es"01:49
cheeseboywhats us version of that?01:50
noenoedoin a brand new Xubuntu installation after 1/2 year of hellish Ubuntu/xubuntu experiencew01:50
noenoefor schrist sake!!!!01:50
PuMpErNiCkLecheeseboy: 'us'01:51
cheeseboykno that but keycodes?01:51
PuMpErNiCkLenoenoe: I'm mostly into FPS, so I've got Nexuiz, Quake, BZflag, and Sauerbraten installed.01:52
cheeseboynexuiz pwns01:52
PuMpErNiCkLenoenoe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_first_person_shooters is a decent resource for more like that.01:52
noenoeis there somethign like xfce-games or do I need to use xfce4-games01:53
PuMpErNiCkLeNo, there're no xfce-specific games.01:53
cheeseboyPuMpErNiCkLe, i need to change keycodes?01:54
PuMpErNiCkLecheeseboy: No, that should be fine as-is.01:54
noenoeok this is my FIRST priority question01:54
noenoefor Camera load and picture transfer what program do I use? Ubuntu recoginitize it on the spot01:54
noenoenow I've plugged the camera in and nothing popped up01:55
noenoe:'-(01:55
noenoeplzzzzz01:56
noenoeyo... I need some help on this01:58
noenoei am going to be held accountable01:58
PuMpErNiCkLeI'd probably install F-Spot, since it apparently works, or has worked, for you before.02:00
noenoePuMpErNiCkLe: ohh... excellent idea!!02:00
noenoethanks02:00
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j1mchi maxamillion02:08
j1mcsomerville32_: are you around?02:09
maxamillionhello02:09
j1mcmaxamillion: do you think you'll make the xubuntu irc chat tomorrow?02:09
maxamillionj1mc: uhmm... what time?02:10
j1mcmaxamillion: 1500 GMT02:12
j1mchttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/77702:13
maxamillionoh yeah ... jeebus i am out of the loop02:13
j1mcgrumpymole: hey!  i used a tip off of your blog!  :-)02:13
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j1mccody somerville has done so much for xubuntu.  it's tough having him unavailable.02:14
maxamillionj1mc: yes, yes it is02:15
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noeneohi02:15
noeneook02:16
noeneobig problem02:16
j1mchi noeneo02:16
j1mcwhat's wrong?02:16
noeneobfore i installed ubuntu and move to xubuntu02:16
noeneothis is like a 6 year old hard drive02:16
BFTDoh?02:16
noeneothat installation began with random crashes that became more and more02:17
noeneonow I made a new installation from scratch and the thing still crashes02:17
noeneotwo so far after a 3 hours old xubuntu installation02:17
j1mchmmm... it sounds like you think it is hardware related, noeneo02:17
noeneoI AM AT LOSS02:17
noeneo:'-(02:18
noeneook the first crash was during transfering 1GB DVD data into the hard drive02:18
j1mcnoeneo: unfortunately, i don't think i'm qualified to help here.02:19
maxamillionnoeneo: sounds like a bad hdd02:19
noeneothe second crash has been during Amarok installation, it stopped right at the middle of setting up the programs02:19
maxamillionnoeneo: www.ultimatebootcd.com <--- check out their hard drive diagnostic tools02:19
noeneomaxamillion: thanks02:20
maxamillionnoeneo: anytime :)02:21
noeneo:-(02:22
noeneothis is sad02:22
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maxamillionhardware failure normally is02:22
noeneomaxamillion: what program off the usb do I need to use?02:32
noeneosorry of the UBCD/02:32
noeneo?02:32
maxamillionnoeneo: in hard drive utilities you will probably want to run IBM DFT (Drive Fitness Test) its pretty generic and will run on almost all hard drives and give an accurate reading of the hard drive02:33
noeneothnaks02:40
BFTDnoeneo yeah sounds like its the HDD02:41
maxamillionnp02:42
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vrkhanshi02:50
vrkhansproblem wont able to install realplayer02:51
vrkhansthis is what is got:sudo apt-get install realplay02:52
vrkhansReading package lists... Done02:52
vrkhansBuilding dependency tree... Done02:52
vrkhansE: Couldn't find package realplay02:52
vrkhanshkhan@hkhan-desktop:~$02:52
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noeneoBFTD: mm... it crashed several times before having xubuntu iso completely loaded. I three times.02:52
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maxamillionvrkhans: do you have the correct repository in your sources.list to be able to install realplay?02:53
vrkhanshi i am having problem installing realplayer: this is what i got :sudo apt-get install realplay02:53
vrkhansReading package lists... Done02:53
vrkhansBuilding dependency tree... Done02:53
vrkhansE: Couldn't find package realplay02:53
vrkhanshkhan@hkhan-desktop:~$02:53
maxamillionvrkhans: please don't post more than once, especially if it is more than one line02:53
vrkhansoh sorry02:54
maxamillionits ok02:54
maxamillionvrkhans: do you have the right repository in your sources.list?02:54
vrkhansso what you are talking about the correct repo... i dont know , and i dont know how to check02:54
maxamillionvrkhans: if you don't know, then you don't02:54
maxamillionvrkhans: let me get you a link02:54
vrkhansok02:55
vrkhansthen do i have to edit some file02:55
maxamillionvrkhans: yes02:55
vrkhanshmm what is the file name02:56
vrkhansand what link02:56
vrkhansi have to put in02:56
maxamillionhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.29 <--- on that link there is a pre-cursor to "sudo aptitude install realplay" that says "#How to add extra repositories", read that first and you will be fine02:56
maxamillionvrkhans: it will give you a step by step02:57
vrkhanshey maxamillion, the alternate install is asking me where to install ,03:07
maxamillionvrkhans: the alternate install of xubuntu?03:08
vrkhansEnter the complete path to the directory where you want03:08
vrkhansRealPlayer to be installed.  You must specify the full03:08
vrkhanspathname of the directory and have write privileges to03:08
vrkhansthe chosen directory.03:08
vrkhansDirectory:  [/home/hkhan/Desktop/RealPlayer] :03:08
vrkhansno realplayer03:08
vrkhanssorry alternate source03:09
maxamillionvrkhans: yeah, why didn't you just do "sudo aptitude install realplay"?03:09
maxamillionvrkhans: i've never done it the way you are describing03:09
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RedBlade7hi03:09
BFTDHI!!!!03:10
RedBlade7what package enables the sound in gnome-games and gaim?03:10
BFTDun-mute03:10
RedBlade7(my sound works in everything else)03:10
RedBlade7no, it's fine through alsa03:10
RedBlade7and oss03:10
maxamillionRedBlade7: add the volume manager to the panel and open it, one of the sound channels is probably just turned off/down03:10
vrkhansmaxamillion: which dir i have to install03:11
RedBlade7nothing's down, i'm just wondering what package is needed for gnome's sound in xubuntu03:11
RedBlade7it was esd, right? i just don't know what pacakge03:11
RedBlade7there's a bunch of them03:12
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maxamillionvrkhans: i don't know ... never done it that way, and i don't think it matters if you are the only one who uses the computer03:14
vrkhanshmm what you suggest03:14
maxamillionRedBlade7: gaim sound works off a fresh install for me on every machine i've ever installed03:14
maxamillionvrkhans: i suggest using the link i told you to use and install it that way .... that's why i posted the link03:14
vrkhansthats what i am using03:15
vrkhansi give you another option03:15
maxamillionvrkhans: yeah, use the first one that edits the file and installs with aptitude ... its the best way to do it03:16
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vrkhansok any how, I also want to upgrade xubunt03:16
vrkhansto 6.1003:16
vrkhanscurrently i am using 6.0603:17
vrkhansbut the problem is i try to install the 6.10 from the desktop and alternate cd but after few min i got a msg on my screen that "signal not found"  now i am little shaky to upgrade to 6.1003:18
maxamillionvrkhans: lemme get you a link for that too03:19
j1mcvrkhans: there are known difficulties in upgrading from 6.06 to 6.1003:19
maxamillion!upgrade03:19
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:19
maxamillionwell there is one03:20
maxamillionvrkhans: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-0ee455b2d02f220b043c084f09dffb86c1c6bd7903:20
vrkhansmaxamillion: what you mean do not upgrade03:21
maxamillionvrkhans: i didn't say do not upgrade03:25
vrkhans:-) !upgrade03:26
vrkhanswht does that mean03:26
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vrkhanssorry i am back03:27
ormiretthat was an instruction to ubotu to tell you about upgrading.03:27
vrkhanshmm03:27
vrkhansoey !(not ) upgrade03:27
vrkhansfine03:27
vrkhanswhat is ubotu03:28
ormiret!help03:28
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:28
vrkhansubotu03:29
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maxamillionvrkhans: you are obviously a C/C++ or Java coder ;)03:30
maxamillionor you are just going to leave03:30
BFTDsorry maxamillion, don't feel bad, he just went for a drink of water....or something03:31
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j1mchello cellofellow03:35
cellofellowhi03:35
j1mccellofellow: i was going over some of the xubuntu meeting archives today... you were pretty active in some of them.03:36
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cellofellowone of them03:36
j1mcdo you think you'll make the meeting tomorrow?03:36
j1mcoh, one of them.  :)03:36
cellofellowI haven't been able to make any since.03:36
cellofellowwhen exactly is it?03:37
j1mc1500 UTC03:37
j1mcerrr GMT03:37
cellofellowok. Does UTC adjust for daylight time?03:37
cellofellowIt's -7 on standard time from here.03:37
cellofellowso, would it be -6 now?03:38
j1mcthe actual listing on the fridge says GMT03:38
cellofellow(mountain time.)03:38
cellofellowUTC = GMT03:38
cellofellowI think03:38
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cellofellowmaybe one does do daylight and the other doesn't.03:38
tonyyarussocellofellow: UTC does not change.03:38
j1mci'm in u.s. central time, so i was planning on showing up at UTC-6, but now i need to check.  :)03:39
tonyyarussoGMT does03:39
maxamillionbrb03:39
tonyyarussoj1mc: US Central Daylight is UTC-503:39
tonyyarussoUCT, rather.03:39
cellofellowUTC actually03:40
j1mctonyyarusso: thanks . . .03:40
tonyyarussocellofellow: I suppose we can thank the French for that, eh?03:40
j1mcso, cellofellow i guess you would be utc -6 for tomorrow then.03:40
j1mcanyway, cellofellow i hope you can make it.03:42
maxamillionback03:42
cellofellowso 1500 GMT -7?03:42
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j1mccellofellow: i think -6 for you.  tonyyarusso was saying -5 for me03:42
cellofellowright now it is Mountain Daylight Time.03:43
j1mcsee tonyyarusso's comment above03:43
j1mc j1mc: US Central Daylight is UTC-503:43
cellofellowI see that. but the time you gave me was in GMT. GMT does use Daylight Savings stuff. So 1500 GMT -7 = 1400 UTC -603:44
cellofellowI hope03:44
j1mclemme ask around . . . brb03:45
cellofellowbrb03:45
j1mccellofellow: check it out: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx03:49
cellofellowok03:53
cellofellow11pm03:53
j1mclooks like you're UTC-6 for now.  :)03:53
j1mc11pm?03:54
cellofellow103:54
cellofellow110003:54
cellofellow11am03:54
cellofellowgot it03:54
cellofellow:P03:54
j1mc:)03:55
cellofellowgah, it' 9am04:05
cellofellowwhen did I learn to count?04:05
tonyyarussoNext year, apparently04:06
cellofellowlol04:07
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kupocrimsun: still around/04:25
maxamillion well ... so far lexical analyzer: 1      maxamillion: 004:26
maxamillionit works ... i get the first token, but from there it dies :(04:26
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vrkhanshey any of you guys can tell me any replacement for visual studio, I need a good c++ compiler and editor04:52
VeganChickI'm trying to install XFCE, and these 2 command lines don't work...04:53
VeganChickchmod +x xfce4-4.4RC2-installer.run  [[and] ]  sudo ./xfce4-4.4RC2-installer.run04:53
tonyyarussoVeganChick: You'll need to define "don't work" for someone to know04:53
VeganChicksorry, Terminal says it can't access the file/directory because it doesn't exist04:54
VeganChickI was installing the regular 4.4, so I changed the file name, and it still didn't work.04:54
maxamillionvrkhans: you want an IDE or a real compiler and a text editor with syntax highlighting?04:55
maxamillionVeganChick: you have xubuntu installed?04:56
vrkhansmaxamillion: something that can replace visual studio04:56
VeganChickmaxamillion: no04:56
maxamillionVeganChick: you running ubuntu?04:56
tonyyarussoVeganChick: You're in the directory that xfce4.4*.run resides in?04:56
VeganChickyes04:56
VeganChickyes, i'm running ubuntu04:56
maxamillionVeganChick: open a terminal and type "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" ... that would be easier :)04:56
maxamillionvrkhans: you want the mono project04:57
maxamillion!mono04:57
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ubotumono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB04:57
VeganChickmaxamillion: and xfce is bundled in that, right?04:57
wheels3572can someone help me out with editing a shortcut please04:57
maxamillionVeganChick: sure if :)04:57
maxamillionis*04:57
VeganChickhaha, I always find the hard way to do things...04:57
vrkhansthats for c++ or .net04:57
VeganChickand then I just reboot and I'll be using xubuntu?04:58
maxamillionvrkhans: both04:58
vrkhanswhat about g++, does there any good front end for g++ and gdd04:59
maxamillionVeganChick: don't even have to reboot, just log out and click on "sessions" at the login screen and select xfce, then login :)04:59
wheels3572does a capital C for the word Control make a difference in shortcuts04:59
VeganChickmaxamillion: I have to reboot anyway, lol. thanks for the help!04:59
maxamillionVeganChick: no problem :)04:59
maxamillionwheels3572: yes, its case sensitive05:00
wheels3572maxamillion, damn thats why ic ant do it.  everytime i goto create a shortcut for terminal05:00
maxamillionyup05:01
wheels3572maxamillion, I hit control and it does a capital C05:01
maxamillionwheels3572: does it do C^ ?05:01
wheels3572yes it does C05:02
wheels3572i hit the control button05:02
wheels3572and it does C05:02
wheels3572exactly this here Control-t05:02
maxamillionwheels3572: if you are trying to do ctrl+c in the terminal it's ctrl+shift+c ... same for paste (add shift)05:02
wheels3572nope05:02
maxamillion?05:02
wheels3572maxamillion, what im doing is this05:03
wheels3572i open up terminal window05:03
wheels3572goto preferences05:03
wheels3572then where it says open terminal05:03
wheels3572i clear that command out05:03
wheels3572and then hit ctrl05:03
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wheels3572onc ei do that05:03
wheels3572it shows up as Control05:03
wheels3572not control05:03
maxamillionohhhh that ... no, it shouldn't matter05:03
wheels3572well i cant get it to open period05:04
maxamillionLOL my dog is chasing her tail ... never seen her do that05:04
wheels3572unless there is a terminal window already open05:04
maxamillion.... she caught it :)05:04
maxamillionwheels3572: that's a tad strange05:04
wheels3572very05:04
wheels3572if there is a terminal window already open05:04
wheels3572i can hit ctrl t05:04
wheels3572and it opens up a second one05:04
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wheels3572if there is NO windows open05:04
wheels3572it wont work05:05
maxamillionwheels3572: ctrl+t might be translated to "open a _new_ window"05:05
wheels3572thats' what i wanna do :)05:05
wheels3572i wanna open a window period05:05
wheels3572lol05:05
maxamillionwheels3572: no ... i meant _another_ window ... sorry :/05:05
maxamillionwheels3572: i think you want to add the shortcut in Applications->Settings->Settings Manager->Keyboard->Shortcuts05:06
maxamillionwheels3572: because the terminal is only listening to your keyboard for shortcuts when the application is open and in focus, but the desktop environment is always listening to your keyboard :)05:07
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maxamillionwb VeganChick05:08
VeganChickI can't seem to get my right-click emulation to work. (I'm on a one-button MacBook)05:08
VeganChickty maxamillion05:08
wheels3572maxamillion, ok so waht would be the terminal command05:08
wheels3572gnome-terminal?05:08
maxamillionVeganChick: out of my league on the multitouch trackpad :/05:08
VeganChickhaha05:08
maxamillionwheels3572: Terminal (case sensitive)05:08
wheels3572ok05:08
maxamillionwheels3572: xubuntu uses the xfce terminal which is apparently just called "Terminal" :)05:09
wheels3572sweeeeeeeeeeet ty max :)05:09
wheels3572tha's what I wanted :)05:09
maxamillionwheels3572: no problem05:09
wheels3572headache gone :)05:09
wheels3572ty lol05:09
maxamillionwheels3572: i just didn't understand what you had wanted in the beginngin ... sorry ;)05:09
maxamillionnp, anytime05:09
wheels3572np05:09
wheels3572im new05:09
wheels3572so didnt' explain it right05:09
wheels3572lol05:09
VeganChickhmm, both DVD players seem to be doing something weird...05:10
wheels3572ohhh while im here05:10
VeganChickthe screen is split in half diagonally05:10
wheels3572does anyone know if FeistyFawn is out for Xubuntu05:10
VeganChickand the two halves are moving at slightly different speeds05:10
wheels3572or will it not be out till Official release05:10
tonyyarusso!feisty | wheels357205:11
ubotuwheels3572: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)05:11
maxamillion:)05:11
maxamillion!botsnack05:11
ubotuYum!05:11
maxamilliongood ubotu05:11
wheels3572tonyyarusso, i know about Ubuntu :) just wondering about Xubuntu flavor :)05:11
tonyyarussowheels3572: Xubuntu has the same devel process - we'll hit beta shortly here.05:12
maxamillionwheels3572: should be either the same day or within the same week05:12
wheels3572ok05:12
wheels3572ty max05:12
maxamillionnp05:12
wheels3572just wish they had beta versions for Xubuntu of Feisty :)05:12
maxamillionwheels3572: we aim for the same day, but it will depend on final testing and bug fixes05:12
wheels3572right05:12
wheels3572night05:13
maxamillionwheels3572: we lack man power so it is subject to how much freetime our community members have05:13
maxamillionlaters05:13
wheels3572ok05:13
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vrkhansmaxamillion: does mono is g++ to something different05:28
maxamillionwait ... what?05:28
maxamillion!mono05:29
ubotumono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB05:29
maxamillion!g++05:29
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:29
maxamillionyeah ... that help.ubuntu link, go there05:29
kalikianaThat remembers me: firefox conflicts with libxul headers :'(05:29
maxamillionvrkhans: and then go to http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page to check out the Mono project05:30
maxamillionkalikiana: firefox conflicts with life05:30
maxamillionkalikiana: i love it but i can't stand how slow it has become05:30
VeganChickAnyone online know about right-click emulation?05:30
kalikianamaxamillion, There was a reason to install libxul headers (aka gecko library) ;)05:31
maxamillionkalikiana: this is why i use aptitude ... it handles all that for me :)05:32
maxamillionkalikiana: you know about right click emulation on a macbook?05:32
kalikianamaxamillion, on a macbook apple+click should be like right button ,shouldn't it?05:33
maxamillionkalikiana: yes, but the new macbooks have a dual touch sensor pad so you can tap with a second finger and it will right click05:34
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kalikianamaxamillion, sounds cool, my gf's laptop has an extra button below for that. i wonder how it can distinguish the two fingers...05:36
maxamillioni dunno :/05:36
VeganChickBut none of the cool MacBook touchpad stuff ports into ubuntu05:38
VeganChickand xubuntu won't even take my emulation commands05:38
maxamillionVeganChick: i know there is a driver for it, i heard of a friend who got it working but he isn't online right now05:39
VeganChickkalikiana: iirc, it's ctrl+mouse for right-click05:39
kalikianaVeganChick, ctrl+click is xfce-specific iirc05:41
VeganChickkalikiana: sorry, I thought you were wondering about OS X05:42
kalikianano idea. personally i have xubuntu and a mac menubar :P05:43
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VeganChickkalikiana: haha, mac menubar in xubuntu?05:45
VeganChickI'm dual-booting OS x and xubuntu05:45
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graziekalikiana: do you mean some kind of dock?05:46
maxamillionVeganChick: yeah ... there are alot of linux dock copy cats out there05:46
VeganChickoh, I was wondering why a mac menubar would be so great05:47
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maxamillionVeganChick: its pretty ;)05:48
kalikianaVeganChick, No, I mean that I have a global menubar for Gtk apps, like on OSX05:48
maxamillionkalikiana: like Finder?05:49
VeganChickkalikiana: like a dock?05:49
kalikianaNO DOCK. fullstop. :)05:49
VeganChicklol05:49
VeganChickprobably the finder menu05:50
VeganChicki forgot that existed, i never use it05:50
kalikianaIt's a menubar on top of the screen where every app's menu appears when it's active but there are no menus in windows anymore.05:50
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graziekalikiana: I thought you may have set up a dock like SAM or Dreamlinux....it's not straight forward to do05:50
kalikianagrazie, I don't see a real advantage in a dock - xfce's launchers are pretty much the same I think.05:51
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kalikianaIn contrast the global menubar saves me screen space when I have several windows open.05:52
maxamillionkalikiana: oh ... like the apple menu05:52
maxamillionkalikiana: how'd you pull that off?05:52
kalikianamaxamillion, that's it, with screenshots: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24186805:54
maxamillionkalikiana: thanks05:55
maxamillionkalikiana: that's awesome05:55
kalikianaThe problems currently are two: 1) There is no 'default' menu. 2) It's not in the official Gtk. :/05:57
kalikianaI really hope it'll get official as soon as possible.05:58
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noeneohi06:27
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noeneohow do I install a program that's not in synaptic?06:27
noeneothe prog in question is Forswriste06:27
BFTD!Forswriste06:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about forswriste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:28
BFTDhrm06:28
BFTDis it source?06:28
noeneoFrostwire06:28
noeneosorry06:28
BFTD!frostwire06:28
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:28
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BFTDnoeneo fairly simple06:32
noeneothanks06:39
noeneogood06:39
maxamillioni've never heard of frostwire06:42
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maxamillioninteresting06:42
vrkhansbig problem06:42
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vrkhansmaxamillion: i just finish upgrade for 6.1006:42
maxamillionvrkhans: awesome, i assume everything went well?06:43
vrkhansbut when restart got msg that "signal not found"06:43
maxamillionvrkhans: what said "signal not found"?06:43
vrkhansjust like if you take the vga cable out from cpu ,06:44
maxamillionoh ... does it eventually come back?06:44
vrkhansthis problem is only when i boot linux06:45
vrkhansont when xp06:45
vrkhansi believe some problem in xserver06:45
maxamillionright, but when you boot linux does the login eventually show up? ... i could just be your usplash messed up06:45
vrkhansno06:46
vrkhansjust that msg06:46
maxamillionoh ... hmmm06:46
vrkhanskeep on blinking06:46
maxamillionare your hard drive leds blinking?06:46
grazievrkhans: have you tried booting with the old kernel?06:47
maxamilliongrazie: ooo, good idea :)06:47
vrkhansi hard that drum beat, so i believe that it reach that logon screen but dont show that to me06:47
maxamillionoh ... huh06:49
maxamillionthat's different06:49
maxamillioni'm gonna run ... bbl06:49
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grazievrkhans: try booting with the old kernel06:50
vrkhansgrazie: no06:50
grazievrkhans: you can select it in the grub menu06:50
vrkhansok06:51
vrkhansthen what i have to do06:51
vrkhansif it boot06:51
graziehang on...I will try to describe it06:52
grazievrkhans: when you boot you get a menu, yes?06:53
vrkhansok06:53
grazievrkhans: Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17.......06:54
grazievrkhans: Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17.......(recovery mode)06:55
grazievrkhans: do you follow?06:55
vrkhansya06:55
vrkhansi know06:56
vrkhansand there is another one 2.6.1506:56
grazieselect that one06:56
vrkhansok06:56
vrkhansbut who i can fix this issue06:56
graziewhen you've booted06:56
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vrkhansthen06:58
graziedo you get the same problem?06:58
vrkhanslet me try06:58
vrkhansok06:58
vrkhansi will come back06:58
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vrkhanssame problem I tried all option07:12
vrkhansany other suggestion07:12
vrkhansgrazie: r u here07:14
grazievrkhans: not so good07:14
vrkhansso that mean I lost everthing07:15
vrkhansbut where is the problem07:15
grazievrkhans: no....it's just xorg config problem that needs sorting07:15
vrkhansI upgrade it in 6.0607:15
vrkhansand when it reboot07:15
vrkhansgrazie: how i can do that07:16
grazievrkhans: I've seen similar problems to this due to the framebuffer driver07:16
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vrkhanshmm07:17
grazievrkhans: when you have no video output it's hard to fix07:17
vrkhansi know07:17
grazievrkhans: you'll need to fix it with a live cd07:17
vrkhansbut can i use alternate cd07:17
grazievrkhans: not really07:18
vrkhanshmm07:18
vrkhansbut does there any why I can stop loding of X07:18
vrkhansat the time to booting07:19
grazievrkhans: yes. by selecting "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17.......(recovery mode)" but you said that didn't work07:19
vrkhansbecaue it show that xbuntu logo and then try to load driver and then start blinking07:20
vrkhansya recovery mode also try to load X or something and cause that problem07:20
vrkhansso now, grazie: what option i have07:21
grazievrkhans: when you select "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17.......(recovery mode)" you should not get the xubuntu logo....just  lines of text07:22
vrkhansya then blank screen07:22
vrkhanslet me try again07:23
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vrkhansgrazie: I can login in recovery mode07:37
vrkhansas root07:37
vrkhansdoes that help me07:37
graziethat's great07:37
vrkhansgrazie: so still I have some hope :-)07:38
grazievrkhans: trouble is I don't know what is causing your problem07:38
grazievrkhans: I'm sure it can be fixed quite easily07:38
vrkhansgrazie: I think its the xserver07:39
vrkhanswhich is causing the problem07:39
grazievrkhans: yes a very strong possibility07:39
grazie!xorg07:40
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:40
vrkhansi try tha apt-get install - - reinstall xserver-xorg07:40
grazievrkhans: no07:40
grazievrkhans: work through this >> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:41
vrkhansi am regrating now my 6.06 is running fine07:41
grazievrkhans: it's all part of  using linux :)07:42
grazietry something for me07:42
graziesudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:43
vrkhansif i login as root do i still have to do sudo07:44
grazieyes, but you not need to enter a password07:44
vrkhansok then07:45
vrkhanswhat you want me to do07:45
grazieenter ctrl+w07:45
grazieenter "Monitor"07:45
vrkhansok07:46
graziescroll down to Section "Device"07:46
graziewhat does it have next to Driver?07:46
vrkhans:-07:47
vrkhans:-)07:47
vrkhansi am writing what you are telling me07:47
vrkhansbecause to do all that i have to restart07:47
grazieoh I see07:47
vrkhansi have a dual boot , and curentl y i am in xp07:48
grazieof course07:48
vrkhans:-)07:48
vrkhansso just tell me everything and I will do all that07:48
vrkhanswhen i reboot07:49
grazieChange......Driver    "???????" to ......Driver    "vesa" and reboot. Make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf (just in case)07:50
vrkhanshow i can make the backup in linux07:50
vrkhanscp07:50
grazieMust be in the section ..... Section "Device"07:50
vrkhansor ok07:51
grazieyes..... sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup07:51
vrkhansok07:51
vrkhanslet me restart07:52
graziehang on07:52
vrkhansok07:52
grazieyou will still get the no signal found problem,  but video may return when you get the drum sound07:53
vrkhansok07:53
grazieI'd also post your problem on the forum07:54
grazieand ask again in here later07:54
vrkhansthnaks07:54
vrkhanshow i can  post problem07:54
vrkhanssorry07:54
vrkhansi am new to this irc thing too07:55
grazievrkhans: the ubuntu forums >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/07:55
vrkhansok thanks07:55
vrkhanslet me restart07:56
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hyper_chmorning08:24
graziemorning hyper_ch08:26
hyper_chI like gnump3d :)08:27
grazienever used it08:28
hyper_chI use it now all the time08:28
hyper_chI have rented a backup server with 160gb diskspace and 100mbit connection08:28
hyper_chcosts me 20 per month08:28
hyper_cha minimal debian is running there with just ssh, gnump3d, squid :)08:29
hyper_chgrazie: wanna see it?08:29
grazieyeah ok08:29
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adrian15hello10:04
adrian15I am using Xubuntu 6.1010:04
adrian15I have some problems with xfce having some problem with10:04
adrian15the session... the top menu and the bottom menu is not shown10:05
adrian15what should I do ?10:05
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hyper_chTheSheep_: somerville32_ you're online?10:07
TheSheep_hyper_ch: no10:13
hyper_choh :(10:13
hyper_chmy wifi card stopped working in the last update in feisty :(10:13
TheSheep_!bugs10:14
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hyper_chTheSheep_: first I want to see is it can be made running again somehow :)10:16
hyper_chI don't like to use the 20m cable through the appartement :)10:16
graziehyper_ch: did you get a kernel update?10:16
hyper_chgrazie: yes I did10:17
hyper_ch2.6.20-1110:17
graziebut no driver update?10:17
hyper_chgrazie: not that I remember10:18
hyper_chgrazie: but there have been a few updates10:18
graziecheck /var/log/dpkg.log10:18
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hyper_chgrazie: what would be the driver to look for in that log?10:22
BFTDhey all10:23
graziehyper_ch: dunno...my wifi knowledge is zero10:23
hyper_chgrazie: no wifi?10:23
grazieno10:23
hyper_chlucky you :)10:24
grazie:)10:24
hyper_choh well, new install then :)10:25
grazie:(10:26
hyper_cheasy :)10:26
hyper_chbtw, if I chose not to formate the current root partition10:26
hyper_chwill the configs in /etc remain the same?10:26
BFTDI got a new computer10:27
BFTDooh yeah10:27
BFTDoh yeah10:27
graziehyper_ch: you can install without formatting / ?...seems very risky to me10:29
hyper_chgrazie: yes, but I've never done it so far... except for the /home paritition :)10:29
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grazie"/home" -no problem... "/" - I wouldn't even if it was an option10:32
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adrian15!update10:56
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:56
adrian15Should I upgrade xfce somehow to fix the problem or should I use Xubuntu 6.06 ?10:57
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adrian15how do I update xfce version from the command line10:59
adrian15sudo apt-get update10:59
adrian15sudo apt-get upgrade xfce ?11:00
adrian15!install11:01
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adrian15hi MaximusBrood how the hell do you update an application from the command line ?11:02
MaximusBroodErr, why was I highlighted? I didn't say anything yet.11:04
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hyper_chTheSheep_: well, I did now boot with the old kernel and the card works with it... can you assist me on how to file the bug report?11:15
hyper_ch!bug11:17
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TheSheep_hyper_ch: this should be easy11:21
TheSheep_hyper_ch: put the make and model of your card, the exact versions of both kernels, maybe the relevant lines from dmesg...11:22
hyper_chTheSheep_: I just don't know what is required to include and I just trying to find out if the bug was reported before11:22
TheSheep_hyper_ch: ah, search for the bug before you file your own11:22
TheSheep_right11:22
hyper_ch:)11:22
TheSheep_hyper_ch: if any additional information is needed, you'll get an e-mail11:22
hyper_chbug no. 1 on launchpad is cool :)11:23
TheSheep_yeah11:23
TheSheep_that's the reason for creating ubuntu11:23
hyper_chseems the bug has been filed already:   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/9274211:24
UbugtuMalone bug 92742 in linux-source-2.6.20 "RT2500-based wireless G network card cannot be set or reset on 2.6.20-11" [Undecided,Confirmed] 11:24
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TheSheep_hyper_ch: put a 'mee too' on it :)11:30
TheSheep_hyper_ch: I mean, put your make and model of the card, of course11:30
hyper_chjust added the me too :)11:31
hyper_chI put in the model of the card, the lspci output, then the iwconfig output and the modinfo output :) I hope that's enough11:32
TheSheep_:)11:33
hyper_chwohoo, my first time :)11:33
TheSheep_confirmations of bugs are important11:33
hyper_chsome people already did confirm it11:33
TheSheep_and the more people do, the faster they'll fix it ;)11:34
hyper_chhehehe11:34
hyper_chI guess I have to alter grub meanwhile11:34
TheSheep_or just remove the new kernel11:34
hyper_chTheSheep_: hmmm.... but then it keeps telling me everyday that there are updates :)11:35
hyper_chTheSheep_: linux is great :)11:36
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MaximusBroodpart11:48
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teh_poxhmmmm12:57
teh_poxlooking for murrine gtk engine package12:57
teh_poxthe site says it's "in universe"12:57
teh_poxbut synaptic turns nothing up...12:57
teh_poxam I doing something wrong?12:57
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grazieteh_pox: it's in feisty01:01
teh_poxsorry, what does that mean?01:01
teh_poxi'm new to *buntu01:01
graziexubuntu 7.0401:02
teh_poxwait01:02
teh_poxthat's a beta, right?01:02
graziealpha I think...but not stable01:03
teh_poxah right01:03
teh_poxso for edgy i'll need an rpm?01:03
graziedunno01:03
grazieteh_pox: there's .deb on the website01:05
grazieteh_pox: >> http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine/download.php01:05
teh_poxah01:05
teh_poxthere is too01:05
teh_poxwhy'd i say rpm01:05
teh_poxmeant deb01:06
grazie:)01:06
teh_poxi should stop switching distros XD01:06
teh_poxgentoo was good.. but portage is soo dying01:06
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LaibschI am trying to get my computer to support squashfs.  squashfs-tools is installed, but "cat /proc/filesystems|grep squash" still does not show anything.  Anybody got this working?02:25
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vrkhansgrazie: hi02:31
reaVerhi02:31
reaVeris there any 32bit support on Xubuntu?02:31
vrkhansI tried but my video card driver is not "vesa" its mga02:31
vrkhansi dont know what to do02:32
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vrkhansgrazie: r u there02:35
TheSheep_reaVer: yes02:38
reaVeris there a way in debian to make flash work with firefox?:P02:39
reaVererr02:39
reaVerXubuntu02:39
TheSheep_reaVer: in 32 bit? just install the flash plugin02:39
reaVerin 64bit02:40
TheSheep_no02:40
TheSheep_since flash plugin is closed source...02:40
TheSheep_you can try one of the open source plugins, but they won't play everything02:40
reaVerother distros have an pluginwrapper02:40
TheSheep_ah, then I don't know02:41
TheSheep_!flash02:41
reaVerthat makes 32bit plugins work on 64bit firefox02:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:41
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash02:41
vrkhanshi i have a problem: I just upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 but when the system reboot it a msg appear on my screen that " signal not found" I dont know what to do. another fellow over here told me that login as root and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  in the device section change the driver to "vesa" but doent help me either02:41
TheSheep_vrkhans: what graphics card do you have?02:42
TheSheep_reaVer: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-38245bd46a3334b4cc11601e161ddaa63439d2db02:44
vrkhansTheShee I have an onborg mga200 card02:46
vrkhansand it is the right one in that xorg.conf file02:46
TheSheep_vrkhans: no other cards?02:47
vrkhansi dont where is the problem because 6.06 is running fine02:47
vrkhansno02:47
vrkhanson bord mga20002:47
TheSheep_vrkhans: does the computer react to keaystrokes when you have "no signal"?02:47
vrkhansits the chip it is using02:47
TheSheep_vrkhans: for example, does alt+ctrl+del reboot it?02:48
reaVerTheSheep_: http://freshmeat.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/02:48
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vrkhansno02:48
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vrkhanshmm02:48
vrkhansi think no02:48
TheSheep_reaVer: well, you can compile it an use or try searching the forums for a ready deb02:48
TheSheep_vrkhans: so it seems that the graphics driver makes the system crash for some reason02:49
TheSheep_vrkhans: and it's the same with vesa?02:49
vrkhansya02:50
vrkhanswith vesa it doesnt give me that on signal msg but stuck on that postinstall configuration screeen02:51
reaVerTheSheep_: sorry, but where's the forum?02:51
TheSheep_reaVer: forum.ubuntu.com02:51
vrkhansdoes there any way i can restore my previous version02:51
reaVertnx02:51
TheSheep_vrkhans: "postinstall configuration screen"?02:51
vrkhansbecause its is working fine02:51
vrkhanssomething like that02:52
reaVerWarthogs Bugzilla02:52
reaVerBugzilla has gone away. Please use Launchpad instead.02:52
reaVerIf you came here looking for a particular Bugzilla bug, please enter the bug ID number in the form below:02:52
reaVerBug # TheSheep?02:52
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TheSheep_reaVer: ???02:52
reaVergo to forum.ubuntu.com02:52
reaVerand you'll see that02:52
TheSheep_reaVer: sorry, use http://forums.ubuntu.com02:52
TheSheep_reaVer: they must be breaking something at the moment ;)02:53
reaVer:D02:53
reaVertnx02:53
vrkhansany suggestion03:07
TheSheep_vrkhans: outo f ideas03:08
TheSheep_of03:08
TheSheep_vrkhans: you can install the dapper back, it shoudn't overwrite your home if you don't tell it to do it03:08
TheSheep_vrkhans: you may want to report a bug03:09
TheSheep_!bugs | vrkhans03:09
ubotuvrkhans: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots03:09
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reaVerTheSheep_: is there any way I can get an more up to date Xubuntu kernel?03:20
reaVer2.6.17 is giving me problems with sound drivers03:20
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TheSheep_reaVer: you can try and compile your own03:24
TheSheep_reaVer: or upgrade to feisty03:24
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cellofellowmeeting today?03:33
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j1mcxubuntu meeting getting started in #ubuntu-meeting.  please join if you're interested.  topics include documentation and artwork.03:59
reaVerTheSheep_: where are the kernels located?04:01
reaVerthe normal branch or the security branch?04:01
TheSheep_!kernel | reaVer04:02
ubotureaVer: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:02
reaVerTheSheep_: that doesn't really help me04:04
j1mcTheSheep_: you interested in joining the xubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting?04:04
reaVerI want to know which reposity I have to upgrade04:04
cellofellowmain and restricted04:04
reaVerk04:04
cellofellownormal, security, and updates too I think.04:05
reaVerwhy do I need to upgrade security?:P04:05
reaVerin which one is the kernel?04:05
cellofellowthere are different versions of different kernels in the different repos. Plain is the way it was when it was released. Security and Updates (maybe) have newer ones.04:06
reaVerk04:07
PuMpErNiCkLeThe kernel is in main.04:15
cellofellowrestricted modules are restricted.04:16
reaVerokidoki04:16
cellofellowduh04:16
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reaVeris there a way to install the -dev version of already installed packages?04:16
cellofellowyeah, just do it.04:17
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reaVercellofellow: I mean the dev version of all packages in an easy way04:17
cudgelhello..  i just switched from fedora core to xubuntu.  how do i do the equivalent of "yum -y update" to pull in the latest updates?04:18
cellofellowdon't think so. Not all packages have -dev versions. Lots of libs do.04:18
cellofellowcudgel: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade04:18
cudgelcellofellow: thanks04:18
cellofellowworks much better than yum junk. :)04:18
cudgelok, so, thats doing it's thing.  can i apt-get stuff while that's running?  for instance, next for me is OpenVPN.  I tried "apt-get install openvpn" but that didn't do a damn thing.  How do I search for packages using apt?04:20
Grey_Lokicudgel, I tend to open up Synaptic and use its search function04:20
cellofellowno, only one apt-based program can run at a time. Synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, dpkg, gdebi.04:20
PuMpErNiCkLeYou won't be able to run two apt sessions at a time - it uses a lock feature to make sure install procedures stay sane.04:21
cudgelok, thats sane04:21
cudgelso...  synaptic?  this is installed by default?04:21
cellofellowyes04:21
cellofellowall those I listed are installed by default actually.04:21
cudgelah, ok, thats good to know04:22
cudgelgah.  what's the location of the default right-click menu?  I need a terminal on there...04:24
cellofellowMenu -> Settings -> Edit Menu.04:24
cellofellowYou can add stuff to the root of the menu with that.04:25
reaVercudgel: to add, while installing you're still able to search using apt-cache search04:25
cudgelthat most definitely doesn't match the menu i have when i right-click...04:25
reaVercudgel: the default menu is gay:P04:25
reaVergo to proprties04:26
reaVerand then tell it to draw a menu on right click04:26
cellofellowoh, yeah04:26
cellofellowopen Desktop Settings, and in Behavior check Desktop Menu on Right Click.04:26
cudgeloh, that is MUCH better04:27
cudgeltyvm04:27
cudgelgah.  how do i list package names?  and the contents of packages?  i'm sooo used to 'rpm -qif `which foo`' for instance04:34
TheSheep_dpkg -l04:35
cellofellowtry using aptitude too.04:35
cudgelno openvpn package, eh?04:41
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Grey_LokiAnyone here use SuperKaramba?04:46
bur[n] ercudgel, there's an openvpn package.. you have universe?04:46
cudgeli have no idea?04:46
bur[n] er!universe | cudgel04:46
ubotucudgel: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource04:46
cellofellowGrey_Loki: I use adesklets instead. SuperKaramba is great, in KDE>04:46
cudgelah, universe is a repository?04:46
Grey_Lokicellofellow, aha, i've just realised that since i'm on my desktop machine, i'm running Ubuntu, and KDE, not Xubuntu and XFCE :S04:47
cellofellowtry #kubuntu then :)04:47
Grey_LokiHeh04:48
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cellofellowcudgel: yeah. Main has the Canonical-supported stuff, and Universe is community supported on just non-supported stuff pulled from Debian Sid.04:51
rvegahello to all channel!04:51
rvegai have a problem with my xubuntu installation04:52
rvegamy disk have partitions win and ext204:52
rvegabut when i try tu install xubuntu i can see this partitions04:53
cellofellowwin NTFS or win FAT32?04:53
rvegaNFTS04:53
rvegai have slackware installed04:53
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rvegaand i want to overwrite it04:53
cellofellowjust Slack?04:53
rvegaslack+XP with lilo04:54
cellofellowoverwrite all of it, just Slack, just XP?04:54
rvegajust slack04:54
rvegabut when i try to make manual partitions04:54
rvegai can't see any partitions in my disk04:54
rvegaGNOME partition editor04:55
rvegasay that all disk is clean04:55
cudgelwoo, this is pretty straightforward.  besides universe, any other components I should add?04:55
cellofellowmultiverse if you want stuff like mp3 support.04:55
cudgelnah, thats why there's a mac attached to the home theater. :)04:55
cudgelthis is for work!04:56
cudgel:)04:56
cellofellowok04:56
cudgeloh, i suppose sound might be nice.04:56
cellofellowrvega: open a terminal and run sudo cfdisk and see what's in there.04:56
rvegaok04:56
rvegay can see all my partitions04:57
rvegasorry04:57
rvegamy mistake04:57
cellofellowhuh.04:57
rvegawin have FAT32 partitions04:57
cellofellowclose cfdisk and run sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd(the slack partition)04:58
rvegabut... how can install xubuntu...?04:58
rvegaok04:58
rvegaready04:59
cellofellownow open Ubiquity, the installer app.04:59
rveganothing... i can see my partitions05:00
rvegai can't05:01
rvegai can't see any partition... i only can see my disk with all space not asigned05:02
cellofellowin the Manual Partitioner?05:03
rvegayes05:03
cellofellowclose ubiquity and open gparted.05:04
rvegaready... the same thing05:05
cellofellowwhich Device is it reading?05:05
rvega/dev/hda05:05
cellofellowit should see what cfdisk sees.05:05
rvegayes... fot this reason i'm here... i don't understand what append05:06
cellofellowsee if Windows or Slack will still boot maybe.05:07
cellofellowoh, wait05:07
rvega?!05:07
cellofellowmaybe gparted is having a hard time reading a strange partition table. Open cfdisk, don't actually change anything, and write it. It may fix that.05:08
rvegayes i think that05:08
rvegaok05:08
rvegaready05:09
cellofellow(Ubiquity loads and embedded Gparted, just so you know why we are using gparted.)05:09
rvegai image that05:09
rvegayes... i make the same test before05:09
cudgelso...  i'm used to chkconfig & service from fedora.  what do i use in ubuntu?05:10
cellofellowgparted see stuff?05:10
cellofellowwhat's chkconfig do?05:10
rveganothing05:10
cudgelchkconfig controls what service start in which runlevels, from the command line05:10
cudgelfor instance "chkconfig --level 3 openvpn on" would start openvpn when transitioning to runlevel 305:11
cellofellowcudgel: install sysv-rc-conf05:11
rvegasystem->services05:11
cellofellowI think that's it. I always mispell and use tab-completion05:11
cellofellow!sysv-rc-conf05:11
ubotusysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-5 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB05:11
cudgelah, i don't need it per se; ubuntu is bsd based?05:11
cellofellowyuo05:11
cellofellowcudgel: its Debian GNU/Linux based.05:12
rvegadebian based05:12
cudgel:)  ok, i deserve that.  i'm not a debian person.  i've been using red hat since...  the beginning i guess05:12
cellofellowwelcome to the... other half of linux.05:12
cudgelhehe, thanks!05:13
rvegajeje05:13
cudgelso, without adding anything, how would i start/stop services?  simply /etc/init.d/service start|stop ?05:13
cellofellowyeah05:13
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cudgelok, cool, i can live with that05:13
cellofellowI thought you wanted to configure the runlevels. For that use sysv-rc-conf (curses, in terminal.)05:14
reaVerk, how do I install an older version of gcc?:P05:15
cellofellow:/ dunno05:15
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reaVergcc (GCC) 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)05:15
reaVerthis one is broken05:15
vrkhansgrazie: back05:16
PuMpErNiCkLereaVer: Broken in what way?05:16
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rvegacellofellow: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda3 format my partition?05:16
cellofellowyes05:16
reaVer /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2/collect2 --eh-frame-hdr -m elf_x86_64 --hash-style=both -dynamic-linker /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 crt1.o crti.o /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtbegin.o -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2 -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2 -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib64 -L/lib/../lib64 -L/usr/lib/../lib64 /tmp/cc6HLRMj.o -lgcc --as-needed -lgcc_s --no-as-needed -lc -lgcc --as-needed -lgcc_s --no05:16
reaVer /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2/collect2 --eh-frame-hdr -m elf_x86_64 --hash-style=both -dynamic-linker /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 crt1.o crti.o /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtbegin.o -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2 -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2 -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib64 -L/lib/../lib64 -L/usr/lib/../lib64 /tmp/cc6HLRMj.o -lgcc --as-needed -lgcc_s --no-as-needed -lc -lgcc --as-needed -lgcc_s --no05:16
cellofellowrvega: that formatted it ext305:16
reaVercollect2: ld returned 1 exit status05:16
reaVerthat way05:16
rvegathanks god i make a backup05:16
rvegajeje05:16
rvegai think... maybe... lilo instalation move partition table to ohter place... where gparted car read it05:17
rvegacan read it05:17
reaVerPuMpErNiCkLe05:17
cellofellowubuntu will install GRUB.05:17
reaVerboth crt1 and crti are no present on my system05:18
rvegayes but in this moment i have lilo installed from slackware installation05:18
cellofellowjust a warning05:18
rvegafor me?05:18
rvegaok05:18
reaVercellofellow: grub ain't that bad:P05:18
PuMpErNiCkLereaVer: Is there more before that?  If you pastebin it, I might be able to help.05:19
PuMpErNiCkLe!paste05:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:19
rvegai was searching in google but i can't found anything with this problem05:20
reaVerPuMpErNiCkLe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10775/05:21
PuMpErNiCkLek05:21
cudgelwell.  this was pretty damn easy to get setup and useful.  woo!05:22
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cudgelthankgs folks!05:23
cudgels/g//05:23
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rvegaim frustrated....05:27
reaVerhappens to me all the time05:27
rvegajeje05:27
cellofellowrvega: how about you image your windows and slack installations and do a full repartition? Leave some space for windows.05:28
cellofellowor you can make space later.05:28
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rvegais valid....05:28
rvegabut i have 20GB of win files05:28
rvegai can do something05:29
rvegay have05:29
rvegatwo win partitions05:29
rvegay can try make a backups in mi second win partition05:29
rvegabut05:29
cellofellowdo you have another hard drive somewhere?05:30
rvegai think that no solve my problem05:30
rvegano05:30
PuMpErNiCkLereaVer: Looking into it, still.05:30
rvegareally yes05:30
rvegabut i have a notebook05:30
rvegay can't connect both disks05:30
cellofellow:/05:31
reaVerPuMpErNiCkLe: pm me the result once you have it:P05:31
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PuMpErNiCkLereaVer: libc6-dev is installed on your system?05:34
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vrkhanswhich directory is for the repository05:36
vrkhanslixting05:36
mindchildOk, so I have installed (so it seems) the linux-686 kernel... only, looking at the properties in synaptic, it only installed crap into /usr/share/doc, and there is no other kernel in /boot05:36
vrkhanslisting05:36
mindchildam I missing something05:36
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vrkhansi am looking to install eclipse but it is not found in synap05:38
reaVerPuMpErNiCkLe: no05:39
reaVer:P05:39
reaVerPuMpErNiCkLe: do you know an automatic way to install dev versions of packages?05:40
reaVerPuMpErNiCkLe: you hit the bullseye05:40
PuMpErNiCkLereaVer: Not for all of them, no.05:40
PuMpErNiCkLe'build-essential' depends on the normal requirements for building from source.05:40
PuMpErNiCkLeYou can, if there's a version of the program in repos already, do `apt-get build-dep packagename` to get the development files required for that specific program.05:41
vrkhansdoes any one know the directory where all the links for download are available05:42
vrkhansrepositories05:42
PuMpErNiCkLevrkhans: What do you mean by 'links for download', exactly?05:42
PuMpErNiCkLeAre you looking for the packages.ubuntu.com site?05:42
vrkhansPuMpErNiCkLe: i am looking to download eclipse through synap but it is not found05:43
vrkhanssome one told me before a directory which need to edit to download universal packages05:43
vrkhansor file05:43
PuMpErNiCkLe!info eclipse edgy05:43
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB05:43
PuMpErNiCkLeIn Synaptic, go to Settings -> repositories, enable universe, reload the package cache, and then search for it agian.05:44
PuMpErNiCkLes/agian/again/05:44
PuMpErNiCkLemindchild: Which version of Xubuntu are you using?05:45
vrkhansin setting i dont see any link for repositories05:45
grazievrkhans: hi...did you sort yout problem?05:45
vrkhans:-) just install 6.06 again05:45
PuMpErNiCkLevrkhans: The settings menu in synaptic should have 'repositories' listed as the second option.05:45
vrkhansok05:46
vrkhansgrazie: that shows i wont able to install the 6.1005:46
grazievrkhans: it was a very strange problem!05:47
reaVer  CC [M]   /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/memalloc.o05:48
reaVerIn file included from /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/memalloc.c:1:05:48
reaVer/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/memalloc.inc:1:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory05:48
reaVerPuMpErNiCkLe: what's that about?:P05:48
vrkhansgrazie: I know05:48
vrkhansgrazie: what do you think that happen05:48
vrkhansi tryied both ways destop and alternat05:49
grazievrkhans: don't know....I've seen a similar loss of video signal with framebuffer driver problems05:50
vrkhanshmm05:51
grazievrkhans: did you use the ext3 file system?05:51
vrkhansya05:51
grazieI was going to suggest installing a driver on XP so you can read your linux partitions05:52
grazievrkhans: >> http://www.fs-driver.org/05:52
vrkhanswhy is that05:52
vrkhansso i can read my ext3 partition05:53
grazieyes05:53
vrkhanshow does that help05:53
grazieit would have helped with debugging you config files....so you could have pastebinned details from XP05:54
PuMpErNiCkLereaVer: Looks like this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=50636305:54
vrkhansgrazie: can you help me in synaptics05:55
grazieyes of course05:55
vrkhansi am looking to install eclipse05:56
grazieok05:56
vrkhansbut synaptics is not showing me that05:56
grazie!eclipse05:57
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB05:57
vrkhanswhich file i have to edit because i think its the universal package05:57
grazievrkhans: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:57
grazievrkhans: remove # from the universe repos lines05:58
vrkhansok05:58
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vrkhansgrazie: what do you think i download that 7.04 that also give me the same problem06:01
grazievrkhans: dunno....most probably yes06:01
grazievrkhans: have you searched launchpad for your video card?06:02
vrkhansgrazie : which launchpad06:02
vrkhanscan i check now about my setting06:03
vrkhansand make the same setting after installing 6.10306:03
vrkhans6.1006:03
vrkhanslike my video card and frame buffer06:03
grazievrkhans: >> https://launchpad.net/06:03
unikum!adesklets06:05
ubotuadesklets: interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-2 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 544 kB06:05
grazievrkhans: do you mean upgrading to 6.10 with the same settings as you have now on 6.06?06:05
vrkhanssome reason firefox is not opening, giving error that it is already open. but it is not06:05
vrkhansya06:05
graziedo you have enough disk space for another installation?06:06
vrkhansmay be that will solve the problem like which hardware driver, because 6.04 everything runs fine06:06
vrkhansi men over write this current one but copy all the config files on a floopy and replace them after installing 6.1006:07
graziei understand what you mean, but I don't think it would work06:08
vrkhanshmm06:08
graziei woul,d make a separate installtion...just in case something goes wrong06:08
graziealso you could download the 7.04 live cd and see if that has the same the same problem without installing06:09
vrkhansgrazie: can i ask where are you from06:09
vrkhans:-)06:09
grazieuk06:09
vrkhansoh other wise i will bring my desktop to your place06:10
graziewhere abouts are you?06:10
vrkhansI am in USA06:10
vrkhansso too far06:10
vrkhans:-)06:10
graziepop round :)06:10
vrkhansi know06:10
vrkhansnotting i can do06:11
graziewhat was your video card?06:12
vrkhansya i check that in the xorg.conf file but that the right one, mga20006:12
vrkhansthats the chip i have , its an onbord card06:13
vrkhansyou told me to chage it to vesa , but that doest help either06:13
graziewhat does 'lspci | grep -i vga'  output?06:14
vrkhans0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP (rev 03)06:16
vrkhansit wont let me edit that file because its a read only (for eclipse)/etc/apt/sources.list06:18
grazievrkhans: you need sudo06:18
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grazievrkhans: there's a bug for that card on edgy, but the details are slightly different >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/edgy-backports/+bug/5872106:20
UbugtuMalone bug 58721 in edgy-backports "Edgy upgrade breaks multiple Matrox cards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 06:20
vrkhansi did edit that file but still got this: sudo apt-get install eclipse06:22
vrkhansReading package lists... Done06:22
vrkhansBuilding dependency tree... Done06:22
vrkhansE: Couldn't find package eclipse06:22
grazievrkhans: did you 'sudo apt-get update' first?06:22
grazievrkhans: there's a workaround that I think may have solved your problem06:23
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vrkhansno06:24
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vrkhansok06:24
vrkhansi am doing that06:24
vrkhansbut i dont have this video card as pci its is onboard06:25
vrkhanson the mother board06:25
grazieyour system thinks you have this device06:26
grazieit doesn't need to be a pci card06:26
vrkhansok06:27
Jasperkhey hi....someone...know some repository of driver's...???06:27
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vrkhansgrazie: it seems like many people have problem with with card06:30
vrkhansso how do we know that wether ubuntu fix this bug or not06:31
grazieyes...it's a shame you went back to 6.06 so quickly06:31
vrkhans:-)06:33
vrkhanswhat option I have06:33
vrkhansi am new06:33
graziedo you really need 6.10?06:33
vrkhansso guys cant able to help me06:33
vrkhansI think It feel good that you are up to date06:34
vrkhansbut what we can do06:34
vrkhansif you are not the only poor fellow06:34
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grazieno not really....many people still prefer 6.06 over 6.1006:35
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vrkhanswhy06:36
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maximusbroodHow would I disable the standard window manager (xfce) and just have a console window?06:36
reaVerctrl+alt+f106:37
reaVerremove gdm from runlevel 206:37
grazievrkhans: because of problems like this....dapper has been tested more thoroughly than edgy06:37
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cellofellowso, what's new?06:39
cellofellowI have a little problem. I'd like my IDE ZIP disk to show on the XFCE desktop when a disk is inserted. I think I can configure HAL to do that. How though?06:40
maximusbroodreaVer: And how would I remove gdm from runlevel 2 then?06:41
cellofellowuse sysv-rc-conf06:41
reaVerrm /etc/rc2.d/gdm06:41
reaVeror cellofellow's method06:41
cellofellowsimpler06:41
cellofellowunless you need it quick06:41
vrkhansgra06:42
cellofellowanybody know how to configure HAL?06:42
maximusbroodgdm isn't in /etc/rc2.d06:42
cellofellowthen use sysv-rc-conf06:42
cellofellow!sysv-rc-conf06:42
ubotusysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-5 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB06:42
maximusbroodOkay, will do :)06:42
vrkhansgrazie: : how i can get the curent firefox because the one which is in 6.06 is 1.5 now fire fox have 2.0.02 is available for windows06:44
grazie!mozilla-firefox06:45
ubotumozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.2+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 55 kB, installed size 116 kB06:45
cellofellowuse !firefox06:46
vrkhansso i just need to go in synap and search for mozilla-firefox06:46
cellofellowjust run sudo apt-get install firefox06:46
grazie!firefox | vrkhans06:46
ubotuvrkhans: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:46
vrkhansi know but its the old version06:46
vrkhansnot the most current one06:47
vrkhansand some extension need the 2.006:47
cellofellow!firefox edgy06:47
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.2+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 9009 kB, installed size 28608 kB06:47
graziecellofellow: can you get FF 2.0 on dapper from the repos?06:47
cellofellow2.0.0.206:47
cellofellownope06:47
cellofellowtry swiftfox. I ran 2.0 on Dapper no problemo.06:48
vrkhansya but the one which is install by 6.06 is  1.506:48
cellofellowgetswiftfox.com06:48
cellofellowok06:48
cellofellowI didn't realize you were using Dapper.06:48
grazievrkhans: do you follow?06:48
vrkhanssorry:06:48
vrkhansi dont get ?06:49
grazievrkhans: swiftfox is an optimised version of firefox06:49
cellofellowworks with extensions great06:49
grazievrkhans: you could also jsut install firefox .deb from the firefox website06:50
cellofellowor manually download firefox 2 from packages.ubuntu.com06:50
graziefirefire 1.5 is actually quicker than 2.006:51
graziefirefox :)06:51
vrkhansgrazie which one you use06:51
vrkhansswift or06:52
=== grazie uses opera :)
vrkhanswhy opera06:52
graziecos I like it06:52
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vrkhansi use it long time ago06:52
vrkhansgrazie so i can not install firefox 2.0 in syanp06:53
vrkhansi have to download it06:53
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graziefor dapper yes06:54
odathi everyone06:54
graziewhen i use firefox or swiftfox the first thing I have to do is add plugins to make it llke opera!06:54
odatmy java firefox plugin was not installed06:54
odathow do i create a symlink from my java to firefox?06:54
odathow do i create a symlink?06:55
PuMpErNiCkLeln -s /source/file /target/file06:56
odatfuc***07:00
odati can not get the java firefox plugin working07:00
odatcan anyone help?07:00
odatdflkjadslfhadsjhfkjashdfkja07:03
odatdshfasdjfhk;shadf07:03
odat'asdljfpkojasdhfka07:03
odatasdfhkajsghdf;dsa07:03
odat'[dasfhasLDfhdsa;07:03
odatfklakl;bdf['kadf07:03
Grey_Lokiodat, shut up :)07:03
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frojndhello !07:04
odatsorry got really pissed for a second07:04
frojndhow can I convince file browser to show hidden files?07:04
odati have absolutely no idea why firefox is not picking up java07:04
Grey_Lokiodat, put it into a notepad document, next time.07:04
Grey_Lokifrojnd, if you're using thunar, just press ctrl+H07:04
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MaximusBroodHello07:05
frojndGrey_Loki: the truth is I don't know what I am using :)07:05
frojndI just clicked file browser07:05
frojndin applications07:05
Grey_Lokifrojnd, well, if you're using XFCE, it's prolly thunar07:05
looping_odat: j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin07:06
odatlooping uhm no07:06
looping_why not?07:06
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MaximusBroodI'm in need of a text-based task manager that is able to show processor usage. Is there one availible?07:06
PuMpErNiCkLeMaximusBrood: htop07:07
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MaximusBroodThank you07:07
PuMpErNiCkLenp07:07
looping_odat: why not?07:07
odatlooping_,  that is very very old07:08
looping_oops, yes.07:08
looping_1.407:08
looping_sorry07:08
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PuMpErNiCkLe!info sun-java5-plugin07:10
ubotusun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB07:10
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PuMpErNiCkLe!info sun-java6-plugin feisty07:10
ubotusun-java6-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 72 kB07:10
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frojndwhere is located firefox07:11
frojndif I installed it via apt07:11
frojndusually07:11
Grey_Loki/usr/bin/firefox, I think07:12
Grey_LokiRun slocate -vu, then slocate firefox07:12
Grey_LokiUhm07:12
Grey_Lokisudo slocate -vu07:12
PuMpErNiCkLe`which firefox` will show where the executable is.07:12
grazie'which firefox' is more efficient I think07:12
odatit worked on every other machine i installed it in except this one07:13
odatthen what07:13
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frojndok I will ask something similar: where are located bookmarks of firefox07:15
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frojndcouse I wanna import bookmarks that I used on kubuntu07:16
PuMpErNiCkLefrojnd: ~/.mozilla/firefox/[your profile number] /07:17
TheSheep_it's usually a file called bookmarks.html07:18
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house_hello everyone07:23
house_i have the java firefox plugins installed but firefox isn't seeing them07:23
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house_anyone?07:26
TheSheep_house_: which plugins exactly?07:27
TheSheep_house_: and do you have firefox installed from the ubuntu or from some other source?07:27
house_all my plugins show up and work except for java07:27
house_the java plugin/symlink are in there though07:28
house_firefox from ubuntu07:28
TheSheep_house_: is it the sun-java-plugin or any other?07:28
house_i'm more than sure everything is where it is supposed to be07:29
TheSheep_house_: is it a 64 bit system?07:30
house_no07:30
frojndhow can I rename xorg.conf.backup files into xorg.conf07:31
frojndrn xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?07:31
TheSheep_frojnd: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:31
TheSheep_frojnd: or just run 'gksu Thunar'07:32
frojndoh my07:35
frojndI' ve done terrible mistake07:35
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frojndinstead to copy xorg.conf.backup in to /media/sda2/etc/X11/ where is my other disto I copyed it into /etc/X11 :S07:36
TheSheep_frojnd: just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and it will autodetect the settings...07:36
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DanilaHi, it's my first time I use IRC and log in to xubuntu channel. I am a new ubuntu user and would be glad if and of you can tell where can I get online help regarding the installation of wireless connection.07:42
TheSheep_!wifi | Danila07:43
ubotuDanila: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:43
TheSheep_Danila: here you go :)07:43
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TheSheep_Danila: ask if you have any problems07:43
Danila:) Thanks, I already have been there, but couldn't solve problem07:43
TheSheep_I'm generally very weak with wifi, but maybe others will be able to help07:44
DanilaIs there any IRC channel specially dedicated to wireless problems, or is this channel the only one?07:44
TheSheep_Danila: you can also ask on #ubuntu, it's much more busy, more people -- and xubutu is very similar to ubuntu under the hood07:45
DanilaThanks TheSheep : )07:45
TheSheep_Danila: you can also try searching http://forums.ubuntu.com for your specific problem -- chances are someone had a similar one] 07:45
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DanilaI did so : ) Will try to get help on ubuntu channel07:46
TheSheep_Danila: there shouls be more people here soon too, you can try describing your problem07:47
TheSheep_should07:47
DanilaThanks again07:47
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odathi everyone07:48
odatwhat do the red x's mean07:48
odati have plugins and or symlinks that have red x's on them07:48
BFTDGOLD!!!07:48
BFTD"dig here"07:48
Grey_LokiThey can also mean that you don't have the permissions to access whatever plugin or symlink the file points to.07:49
TheSheep_BFTD: behave07:49
TheSheep_odat: where do you have them?07:49
Grey_LokiSo the file was created by root, but you're browsing as an unpriviledged user07:49
TheSheep_odat: in what application? in Thunar?07:49
odatTheSheep_, in thunar07:49
odat?07:51
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TheSheep_odat: Grey_Loki is probably right :)07:51
TheSheep_odat: it can also mean a symlink to a non-existing file07:51
Grey_LokiProbably!?07:51
=== Grey_Loki is ALWAYS right!
Grey_Loki:P07:51
TheSheep_Grey_Loki: sure, just not always in *this* universe ;)07:52
NkuMikehey can someone tell me what i should set up if I want to be able to access my files from school? SSH VNC FTP!? I am behind a router and don't have a static ip from my isp if this helps07:52
odatGrey_Loki, ok how do i make them accesible by everyone07:52
Grey_LokiTheSheep_, just because I think outside the box :(07:52
Grey_Lokiodat, you can use chmod07:52
TheSheep_NkuMike: no static ip makes it pretty hard07:52
Grey_LokiBut be careful with it07:52
odatGrey_Loki, ok how do i do it'07:52
TheSheep_odat: wait, wait, what kind of plugins?07:53
Grey_Lokiodat, I think it's something like sudo chmod (octal permission) (file)07:53
NkuMikeWhat about those free dns services that say they like track your ip and you just put in a url?07:53
Grey_LokiBut pay more attention to TheSheep_07:53
odatTheSheep_, java plugins07:53
TheSheep_NkuMike: no experience with them07:53
TheSheep_odat: for firefox?07:53
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NkuMikeoh ok07:53
odatTheSheep_, yea07:53
Grey_LokiNkuMike, those need a router that can tell the DNS service that the router's WAN IP has changed.07:53
TheSheep_odat: so it's probably a symlink to a non-existing file07:54
odatTheSheep_, that is not it the file exist07:54
aoupiin the OSX terminal I can scroll in a ssh screen session, but I can't in the xfce terminal, is there some terminal that'll let me scroll?07:54
TheSheep_odat: at exactly the same path?07:54
NkuMikewell some of them install a program on the computer, I thought that was what would update the  dns service07:55
odatTheSheep_, yes07:55
aoupiNkuMike: I just joined, are you talking about services like no-ip.com?07:55
NkuMikehold on let me see07:56
aoupiif soo, you can install no-ip07:57
NkuMikeits like this place   http://freedns.afraid.org/  which offers it for free07:57
NkuMikeall I want to do is be able to get my files from school or work, there is no easy way to do that?07:58
aoupiNkuMike: no-ip is also free unless you want their other services07:58
aoupiI use it and it has been working really good for over 3 years07:58
NkuMikeoh ok so can you explain what u do?  what service do you set up on your computer?07:59
aoupiI just apt-get install no-ip07:59
aoupithen run no-ip -C07:59
aoupibut you must register on no-ip.com first07:59
NkuMikealright08:00
NkuMikeaoupi: So once you have that set up how do you connect to the computer?08:03
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aoupissh and http08:03
aoupido you have a webserver running?08:03
NkuMikeno08:03
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aoupihow do you want to get the files?08:04
cellofellowtry lighttpd first, and then apache if lighttpd doesn't cut it.08:04
aoupi^ yes08:04
cellofellowgftp is a good little FTP client that works with sftp (ssh_08:05
cellofellow)08:05
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NkuMikeif I install the lighttpd and run it then do I just enter the url that I got from no-ip ?08:05
cellofellowyeah08:05
TheSheep_WInScp if you have windows on the other box...08:05
vrkhansi am using Tvtime08:05
Grey_LokiWinSCP3++08:05
aoupitransmit is good on OSX08:06
cellofellowyou may need to set up an update client for no-ip. I use ddclient with dyndns.com08:06
cellofellowWinSCP rocks. uses MC's keys.08:06
hyper_chcellofellow: you're using feisty?08:06
cellofellowedgy.08:06
hyper_chTheSheep_: you are using feisty right?08:06
vrkhansbut the problem is on the left side there are many horizontal lines , not on the whole screen just on the left side .08:06
cellofellowmaybe it's a refresh rate setting08:07
vrkhansdoes any one know how to get a clear picture without those lines08:07
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cellofellowvrkhans: what's the refresh rate?08:07
odatok java firefox plugin just doesn't work08:07
odatperiod08:07
cellofellowone sec odat08:08
odatworks on every other system i've put it on just not this one08:08
TheSheep_hyper_ch: yes08:08
TheSheep_hyper_ch: it just erased my config files two days ago :E08:08
hyper_chTheSheep_: do you have the newest updates installed?08:08
TheSheep_hyper_ch: yes08:09
vrkhanscellofellow: are you telling me to set the refresh rate08:09
cellofellowyeah08:09
hyper_chdoes the xfce start menu also disappear for you?08:09
TheSheep_hyper_ch: no 'start', but the desktop menu survived :)08:09
hyper_chTheSheep_: well, I keep adding now the Xfce Menu but it keeps disappearing08:10
hyper_chjust wanted to check if that's another bug08:10
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cellofellowodat: run `file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so`08:10
TheSheep_hyper_ch: when it disappears?08:10
hyper_chTheSheep_: I don't know... it just keeps disappearing after a while08:11
hyper_chI've added it at least 5x today already08:11
cellofellowodat: (java 6 or java 5?)08:11
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cellofellowhyper_ch: TheSheep_: can we do that in #xubuntu-devel ?08:11
hyper_chcellofellow: sure08:12
TheSheep_hyper_ch: hm... didn't disappear08:12
cellofellowodat: you there?08:12
hyper_chTheSheep_: it started for me to do so today08:12
hyper_chxfburn - can it only burn cds?08:13
TheSheep_hyper_ch: do you have a weird colored strip at the left side of the menu when you open it?08:13
hyper_chTheSheep_: no08:13
TheSheep_funny08:13
hyper_chI added not through right-clikc --> add items --> Xfce Menu08:13
hyper_chand that also keeps disappearing08:14
TheSheep_hyper_ch: maybe it crashes on your menu for some reason :/08:14
aoupihow stupid would it be to put my home on a usb stick?08:14
Grey_Lokiaoupi, not that stupid - a few people do it08:14
hyper_chTheSheep_: but shouldn't the whole taskbar then crash?08:14
aoupiGrey_Loki: that means it'll work, good08:15
TheSheep_hyper_ch: no, it was changed from 4.2 -- not all panel plugins work in the panel process, some (the less stable ones) work as separate ones08:15
hyper_chTheSheep_: ok...08:15
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cellofellow!mp308:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:19
cellofellowsorry, needed the link.08:19
TheSheep_cellofellow: you can also /msg the bot :)08:19
cellofellowoh, yeah. forgot08:20
Grey_LokiTheSheep_, mind if I PM you about something?08:21
TheSheep_Grey_Loki: you don;t need to ask08:22
Grey_LokiTheSheep_, 's good manners, I think :P08:23
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Grey_LokiTheSheep_, aha. Just realised that PMs are being blocked at the moment08:25
Grey_LokiGotta register :S08:25
TheSheep_Grey_Loki: or come to a new channel08:26
Grey_LokiAlright - #sheepmessage :P08:26
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aorithcan i configure multimedia keys in xfce like in gnome?08:28
aoupiaorith: I use xbindkeys, it works pretty good, use xbindkeys-config to set it up08:29
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BFTDhow do i get a new login?08:36
BFTDor how do i login as another user without logging out of this one?08:36
TheSheep_BFTD: there was a menu entry for that, let me look08:36
TheSheep_BFTD: you can also use xnest to do it in a window :)08:36
MikeC2Heya, how do I reditect hardware? I cloned a pc to another (same hardware config) it seems to need a refresh however08:37
BlueEaglemikec2: redetect it? What's not working?08:37
MikeC2sound and network08:37
MikeC2they are identical PCs however :|08:37
BlueEaglemikec2: do they show up on lspci?08:38
BlueEaglemikec2: or lsusb if they are usb devices?08:38
MikeC2let me check08:38
BlueEaglemikec2: When cloning systems borking on the /dev directory is very very easy to do.08:38
TheSheep_MikeC2: remove /etc/iftab08:39
MikeC2and it will redetect the hardware?08:41
MikeC2It shows the ethernet controller, not sure about the sound08:41
MikeC2unless its on the chipset or something of that nature...08:41
TheSheep_MikeC2: are the boxes identical?08:43
MikeC2indeed08:44
TheSheep_hmm... then the sound *should* work08:44
TheSheep_maybe clearing the /tmp directory and restart would help :/08:44
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TheSheep_or the /var/lock/ ...08:45
TheSheep_hi kalikiana08:45
TheSheep_kalikiana: thank you for all the fish08:45
aorithaoupi thx, finally i use keytouch works better for me08:46
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kalikianaTheSheep_, all the fish?08:47
TheSheep_especially the cat ones08:47
kalikianaI'm glad you like it. *g08:48
kalikianaYou don't by chance have an example of drag'n drop implementation?08:48
TheSheep_kalikiana: I think there is one in the pygtk faq08:48
kalikianaHm... let me have a second look.08:49
TheSheep_kalikiana: I played with it a little when I tried to make thunar-like gestures for my web browser :)08:49
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Sultanovichwho can reinstall virtualbox in xubuntu 6.10?08:51
Sultanovichthis file is corrupted08:51
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TheSheep_Sultanovich: sudo apt-get --reinstall install virtualbox08:52
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Sultanovichy proved in this moment08:53
TheSheep_kalikiana: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/index.py?req=show&file=faq23.031.htp08:53
BlueEaglethesheep_: I assume by "remove" you actually mean "move /etc/iftab to /etc/iftab.bak", right?08:54
kalikianaTheSheep_, I found it already, but thank you. :)08:54
TheSheep_BlueEagle: yes, good idea, although that particular file is not really needed if you only have one network card08:54
Sultanovichi can't reinstall08:55
Sultanovichthis is te prompt08:55
Sultanovichroot@aco-linux:/home/sevor/instalables# sudo apt-get --reinstall install virtualbox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386.deb08:55
SultanovichLeyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho08:55
SultanovichCreando rbol de dependencias08:55
SultanovichLeyendo informacin de estado... Hecho08:55
SultanovichE: El paquete virtualbox necesita ser reinstalado, pero no se encuentra un archivo para ste.08:55
TheSheep_!pastebin | Sultanovich08:56
ubotuSultanovich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:56
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Grey_Loki!sp | Sultanovich ?08:57
ubotusultanovich ?: sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB08:57
Sultanovichsorry y don't now this is bad08:57
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TheSheep_Sultanovich: do 'sudo apt-get update' first08:58
Sultanovichubotu: i don undertand08:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i don undertand - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:58
TheSheep_Sultanovich: that's a bot, ingonre it ;)08:58
Sultanovichsudo apt-get update finish08:58
TheSheep_Sultanovich: I just wanted to give you an url to the pastebin, so that you don;t have to paste text into the channel08:59
Sultanovichsorry, not repite any more08:59
TheSheep_Sultanovich: that's ok, it's just more comfortable that way09:01
MikeC2ok, one rig cloned perfect, network and sound work, this other, I got the network working via rming the iftab, now how to redetect sound?09:02
Sultanovichsomebody speak spanish?09:02
TheSheep_!sp09:03
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB09:03
TheSheep_ah09:04
grazie!es09:04
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:04
TheSheep_Sultanovich: that explains why Grey_Loki did that :)09:04
TheSheep_grazie: thanks :)09:04
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Grey_LokiThere there, TheSheep_ - don't feel bad :)09:04
Grey_LokiHrmz09:04
Grey_LokiSeems that KDE has crashed09:04
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cellofellowTheSheep_: Do you know how to set the GTK iconset the old-fashioned way?09:05
TheSheep_cellofellow: elaborate?09:05
cellofellowI have Fluxbox, instead of XFCE, and the icon theme I picked in XFCE doesn't load in Fluxbox, cause XFCE sets its own settings instead of the system settings. (does the same thing for GTK themes too.) So, what's the non-XFCE way?09:06
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arnorhello World!09:07
TheSheep_cellofellow: no idea09:07
SultanovichI can't uninstall virtualbox. Can i delete folder  of virtualbox with my hands?09:08
cellofellowdid GTK not have icon themes before XFCE?09:08
cellofellowand GNOME09:08
toulousehey, im looking for an OS X like dock for xfce, is there such thing?09:08
cellofellownone I know of. You can put the bottom panel to be big and centered and it looks like.09:08
cellofellowadesklets YAB (Yet Another Bar) looks good too.09:09
toulousekiba dock looks sweet, but its kde i believe09:09
toulouseok, i'll check that out09:09
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cellofellowkxdocker rocks on kde.09:09
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TheSheep_there was that cairo demo porgram, but it wasn't relly function -- still pretty :)09:10
MikeC2Trying to redetect a sound card in xubuntu, whats the xubuntu equal of alsa config?09:10
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grazieI think SAM linux has extended cairo and called it wbar...not certain about that though09:11
cellofellowtoulouse left anyway09:11
graziemust be really keen09:12
TheSheep_MikeC2: I think that ubuntu uses alsa too09:14
TheSheep_ah, there was that physics engine demo too :)09:15
TheSheep_with jumping icons and stuff ;)09:15
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DanilaHi everybody. Sorry for stupid question, I am new ubuntu user.  Triying to set up wireless internet connection. Are "domain name" and   "search domains" fields that are found in "network manager" program necessary?09:29
DanilaAnybody?09:32
TheSheep_Danila: no, I think they are used to 'complete' the domain names if you only specify the first part of the name09:33
TheSheep_Danila: for example, we have a server called atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl, but I can type just 'atos' because I have 'wmid.amu.edu.pl' in the serach domains09:33
cellofellowyeah, that's cool09:34
TheSheep_otherwise typing the IP would be faster ;)09:34
cellofellowmy LAN is .local and it's in the search domains and09:34
TheSheep_unless it's ipv6 ;)09:34
cellofellowIPv6 is weird. I never see it except lying around the config stuff, doing nothing.09:34
TheSheep_cellofellow: it's obligatory in Japan09:35
TheSheep_cellofellow: no ipv4 there09:35
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ed62hey all09:41
TheSheep_hi ed6209:41
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BlaaskaasHi09:44
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BlaaskaasI have a question09:44
BlaaskaasOne day when I was using my computer, the panels on the top of my screen and at the bottom of my screen were gone09:44
BlaaskaasThey were just gone09:44
BlaaskaasI can't find them anywhere09:44
BlaaskaasWhat do I need to do to get my panels back?09:45
DanilaTheSheep_, sorry, didn't get the answer. Have too little knowledge.  I use wireless modem (US Robotix) and Wireless USB stick. When I enter 192.168.2.1 in my browser I see configuration window of my modem. There I can see the information about my ISP ( such as -myusername-@ttnet.net ).  Is "ttnet.net" the "domain name" which I should enter in "network manager" program? I guess not, because as I know firstly  my linux should connect to wireless modem and th09:45
TheSheep_Danila: your text got cut off at " my linux should connect to wireless modem and th"09:46
TheSheep_Danila: afaik the domain name and search domains fields are optional09:47
DanilaI guess not, because as I know firstly  my linux should connect to wireless modem and then my modem will do other things for me (such as using the saved -myusername-@ttnet.net record). So can "domain name" and "search domains" fields be empty? Will I be able to make wireless internet connection witthout them?09:47
Danilaok09:47
Danilathank you09:47
ed62Is there a french channel ?09:47
TheSheep_!fr09:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:48
ed62thks ! :d09:48
DanilaOne more question: when I write "lshw" command I see that my wireless network (eth1) is disabled. I try to enable it via "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" but get the "connection timed out"09:49
DanilaIs there any way I can enable  wireless network?09:49
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kupoDanila: what is your networks essid?09:53
kupoyou probably want to go 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up'09:54
Danilamy essid is USR911009:54
kupothen 'iwconfig eth1 essid USR9110'09:54
kupothen 'dhclient3 eth109:54
TheSheep_Danila: are you sure it's not your wired card?09:54
kuposorry Danila put sudo in front of those last two commands also09:55
DanilaTheSheep_ Wired card?  No. It is USB Adapter09:56
TheSheep_ah, ok09:56
TheSheep_Danila: as I said, not much experience :)09:56
TheSheep_Danila: you're probably better off with kupo09:57
Danila:) Thank you TheSheep_09:58
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Danilakupo Thank you. At the moment talking with you on windows, will try your suggestions on linux and come back.  And do you know how can I make my essid permanent? I set it, and see that it is set via iwconfig   But after some time it dissapears10:03
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kupoDanila: when do you notice it dissapears10:06
kupooh i'm lagging bad10:08
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kupooh she left10:14
TheSheep_she'll be back soon10:15
TheSheep_(why "she" btw?)10:15
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kupooh seemed like a girl  speaking10:17
kuponow that you mention it not sure10:17
TheSheep_:)10:17
TheSheep_the first feeling is usually right though10:17
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vrkhanshow i can install realplayer10:18
kupowhen it comes back tell it that  you can set essid on boot in10:18
kupowhen it comes back tell it that  you can set essid on boot in                     [#xubuntu]  when it comes back tell it that  you can set essid on boot in10:18
kupo/etc/network/interfaces10:18
TheSheep_ok, thanks10:19
TheSheep_you can also make iwconfig connect to the first essid it sees10:19
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TheSheep_maxamillion: \o/10:20
maxamillionhi hi10:21
maxamillionTheSheep_: how have things been around here lately?10:21
vrkhanshi maxamillion10:21
maxamillionhello vrkhans, how are you today?10:21
TheSheep_no idea, I had poor connectivity for the last few days10:21
vrkhansfine10:21
vrkhansfail to install 6.1010:21
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cellofellowvrkhans: whatever was wrong?10:22
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vleonihave two questions, one is xubntuu and the other relates to all *ubuntu versions10:23
Danilakupo I tried your commands. sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "USR9110" was ok.10:23
vrkhanshey maxamillion: which site you showed me for how to realplayer install10:23
DanilaWhen I tiped iwconfig I saw that my essid was set correctly10:24
maxamillionvrkhans: oh that's right ... when you boot linux do you see the GRUB menu before it does the "signal not found" thing?10:24
vleon1) how do i configure the keybord languages and their chnaging sequence in xfce?10:24
maxamillionDanila: so "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" to see if you're is even in range10:24
DanilaBut "sudo dhclient3 eth1" was problematic10:24
vleon2) how do i make a sound blaster 16 card to run on *ubuntu10:24
vrkhansmaxa10:24
vrkhansmaxamillion: ya10:25
vrkhansi can login in as root too in the other mode10:25
DanilaI got SIOCSIFFLAGS: "Connection Timed Out" and "network is down" messages10:25
vrkhansbut after that dont know how to fix it10:25
vrkhansso i just came back to my 6.0610:26
maxamillionvrkhans: ok, does it list more than one kernel? (it normally keeps the old one as a backup to boot)10:26
vrkhansyaa10:26
vrkhans I tried all of them10:26
maxamillionvrkhans: oh, you just went back to 6.06? .... well, i guess atleast its working10:26
Danilamaxamillion my network is disabled, I am trying to enable it.10:26
vrkhansnone of them work, may be becase the configuration file are overwriten10:26
DanilaI am in range, because I can connect to network in Windows, bt I can not in ubuntu10:27
maxamillionDanila: oh ... "sudo ifup eth1"10:27
vrkhansya no choice10:27
vrkhanswhat i can do10:27
vrkhansi dont know where is the problem10:27
vrkhansand dont know what to fix10:27
maxamillionvrkhans: you can backup the data and then download the 6.10 installation iso image .... more people have success with that, there were alot of issues with the upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 on all the ubuntu flavors10:28
Danilamaxamillion I tried ifconfig eth1 up and got "SIOCSFFLAGS: Connection Timed Out " message10:28
maxamillionDanila: that's different10:28
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Danilamaxamillion I will try it, thanks10:29
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maxamillionnp10:29
vrkhansI know i tried it before like a fresh install but after that loading sign of xubuntu  first appear pretty dim  and then no signal found appear10:29
grazievrkhans: did your read that bug report? >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/edgy-backports/+bug/5872110:30
UbugtuMalone bug 58721 in edgy-backports "Edgy upgrade breaks multiple Matrox cards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 10:30
maxamillionvrkhans: strange... it might be you xorg config putting syncs out of range ..10:30
vleoni have two questions, one is xubntuu and the other relates to all *ubuntu versions  1) how do i configure the keybord languages and their chnaging sequence in xfce?  2) how do i make a sound blaster 16 card to run on *ubuntu10:30
vrkhans0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP (rev 03)10:30
grazievrkhans: you problem looks fixed in feisty and there's a backport for edgy10:30
vrkhansthis is my vga card10:30
maxamillionvrkhans: oh ... huh10:30
vrkhansand i heard lot of problem about it10:31
maxamillionvrkhans: yeah, you might just wait for feisty, its out in about a month10:31
vrkhanshmm, i wish10:31
vrkhansthey work on my card10:31
vrkhansand clear those bugs10:31
vrkhansgrazie: thats what i am telling maxamillion10:32
vrkhanshey guys i lost all my links too which you guys told me about how to install the realplayer , can you guys tell me one more time10:33
maxamillionvrkhans: yeah, just a moment10:34
maxamillionvrkhans: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.2910:34
vrkhansthanks10:35
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maxamillionnp10:36
huntingowlYo10:36
vrkhanshey do you guys know any good replacement for wintv10:36
huntingowlHow's everyone tonight?10:36
huntingowlI have run into a bit of a problem10:36
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cellofellowI have SWAT installed on my server, but I forgot how to access it.10:37
hyper_ch!swat10:37
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:37
huntingowlI'd like to install Firefox 2 on Dapper Drake10:38
Danilamaxamillion I typed "sudo ifup eth1" and got the following message: "interface eth1 already configured". Bu my wireless network is still disabled . Any idea?10:38
huntingowlSynaptics only lists 1.5.x10:38
maxamillionDanila: huh ... uhmmm, just a moment10:38
hyper_chcellofellow: could it be port 8001?10:38
huntingowlwhat's the best way to do this?10:39
cellofellowit's port 9** something like that.10:39
hyper_ch933?10:39
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hyper_ch9001?10:39
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cellofellowI thought it was 939 but that no worky10:40
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vrkhansdoes gaim support voice and video10:41
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huntingowlHello?10:41
cellofellowvrkhans: no10:41
vrkhanscellofellow: any other option then10:41
cellofellowPhoneGaim is a VoIP program, as is Ekiga.10:41
maxamillionDanila: have you checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?10:41
maxamillionDanila: alot of really good information there10:42
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huntingowlCananyone recieve this?  I just installed XChat and I'm not sure if its working correctly10:43
vleoni have two questions, one is xubntuu and the other relates to all *ubuntu versions  1) how do i configure the keybord languages and their chnaging sequence in xfce?  2) how do i make a sound blaster 16 card to run on *ubuntu10:43
maxamillionhuntingowl: yes, it is10:43
huntingowlGroovy. :D10:43
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vrkhansany good multi messenger client, which support voice and video10:44
huntingowlDoes anyone know how I might best install Firefox 2?10:44
maxamillionvleon: 1) i'm not really sure .... 2) check this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth10:44
vleonthanks10:45
huntingowlI downloaded the tarball from Mozilla.org...but I'm thinking theremust be a better way10:45
maxamillionhuntingowl: if you are running 6.10 then it is installed, otherwise check to see if there is a backport of it10:45
maxamillionvleon: anytime10:45
huntingowlWhere do I look for that?10:45
maxamillion!backports | huntingowl10:45
ubotuhuntingowl: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports10:45
huntingowlthanks10:46
vleonumm maxamillion it doesnt help me :/ im talking about the old sound blaster 16 card10:46
maxamillionvleon: ohhhh .... uhmmm10:46
maxamillion!sound | vleon10:46
ubotuvleon: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:46
vleonthanks10:47
maxamillionnp10:47
maxamillion!botsnack10:47
ubotuYum!10:47
maxamilliongood ubotu10:47
j1mc!botsnack | maxamillion10:48
ubotumaxamillion: Yum!10:48
j1mcum, that's kind of weird.10:48
j1mcit sounds like ubotu just ate maxamillion10:48
j1mcbut now i know how to have ubutu say something to someone else.10:49
Danilamaxamillion I did. I know these is a solution for my problem somewhere on internet/forums. From what I read on forums and wifi troubleshooting I couldn't find the solution, and it is more difficult for me because i have just installed ubuntu/linux three days ago, it first time in my life : )10:49
maxamillionj1mc: lol10:49
j1mc:)10:49
maxamillionDanila: ah ... yes, that can make things a little more difficult10:49
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j1mcDanila, i'm glad to see you giving things a try, though.  :)  you will get it!10:50
vleonthanks maxamillion you solved my problem! :)10:50
Danilaj1mc thanks, hope so10:50
Stormx2What are the recommended specs for CPU/RAM for running xubuntu 6.10?10:50
huntingowlthanks10:51
huntingowlI don't think this computer has the horsepower for 6.1010:51
maxamillionvleon: np, anytime :)10:51
huntingowlso this is good. :D10:51
j1mcStormx2, To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM.10:51
j1mcTo install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk.10:51
j1mcOnce installed, Xubuntu can run with 64 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to use at least 128 MB RAM.10:51
hyper_chso, another bug report filed10:51
maxamillionStormx2: www.xubuntu.org/get10:51
maxamillionStormx2: that site lists the minimal, but i recommend 256mb of ram and roughly 350MHz (thats just a personal recommendation for good performance)10:52
Danilamaxamillion, do you know if I should set up wireless address such as 00:14:xx:xx:etc manually to set up the network, or if it will be determined automaticly by ubuntu when it connects with wireless modem via ip/gateway10:54
huntingowlI'm looking at the backports list10:54
huntingowlI don't see Firefox 2. :(10:54
Danilamaxamillion Or can it be the raeason why the network is disabled? Should I firstly look for commands that will help to enable it?10:55
Danilahuntingowl I didn't use firefox, but I use opera and it is fine : ) Maybe you should try it10:55
j1mcDanila, have you checked out the ubuntu wireless troubleshooting guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide10:56
maxamillionDanila: that looks like the MAC address, which is burnt into the hardware and can't be altered without some spoof hacking10:56
maxamillion!mac10:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:56
maxamillionbah10:56
j1mcDanila, in my experience, i haven't needed the mac address if i have the AP name.  maxamillion has that been your experience, too?10:57
huntingowlgotta bail10:57
huntingowlLater. :D10:57
Danilaj1mc is AP name = essid?10:58
j1mcDanila, yes.  :)10:58
maxamillionj1mc: yes10:58
Danilaj1mc :) thanks, you will find much opportunity to laugh with me10:59
j1mc:)10:59
maxamillionno no ... no laughing, everyone starts somewhere10:59
DanilaI love people laughing :)11:00
maxamillionwell ok11:00
j1mcand he said, "laughing with me," not "laughing at me."  :)  it's ok to laugh with someone.  :)11:01
maxamillionohhhh11:02
maxamillionrgr11:02
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vrkhanshey maxamillion: how can i get rid of Mozilla browser because i have tow browser, I just need firefox to be my default browser11:02
hyper_chvrkhans: remove the packages mozilla-browser11:03
maxamillionvrkhans: what hyper_ch said :)11:03
vrkhansactually i tried that but i just install openoffice and it says if i remove mozilla openoffice will be removed too11:04
vrkhansin syanp11:04
hyper_chvrkhans: hmm, you could try it in a terminal11:04
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vrkhanshyper_ch: what is the terminal command to remove11:06
vrkhanspurge or ...11:06
WebHi,  can i install nl@euro from the locales or is it all utf-8 ?11:06
hyper_chvrkhans: sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-browser11:06
hyper_ch(I think)11:06
vrkhansthnaks11:07
hyper_chdoes it still want to remove OOo?11:07
vrkhanslet me check11:07
DanilaWell, I can get essid name (although it is not permament and dissapears somewhere sometimes : ), after when I type "iwconfig" I see that there is no MAC address recognized.  With "lshw" I see that my network (eth1)  is still disabled. I can not enable it with "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" (connection timed out) nor with "sudo ifup eth1" (interface already configured). Any other suggestions? Or I will have to return to these complicated texts of troubleshooting :11:08
Weblspci11:08
Danilat is usb11:08
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hyper_chWeb: you should be able to install nl@euro11:09
brokenbinhello11:09
vrkhanssorry its not open office it the other program "eclipse"11:09
brokenbincan someone tell me how to install xubuntu from harddrive?11:09
brokenbini don't have a cd burner11:09
hyper_chvrkhans: hmm, remove mozilla-browser and then install eclipse again... maybe that helps11:09
vrkhansand on terminal too it is saying that it will remove :The following packages will be REMOVED:11:09
vrkhans  eclipse* eclipse-jdt* eclipse-jdt-common* eclipse-pde* eclipse-platform*11:09
vrkhans  eclipse-rcp* eclipse-source* libswt3.1-gtk-java* libswt3.1-gtk-jni*11:09
vrkhans  mozilla-browser*11:09
hyper_ch!install | brokenbin11:09
ubotubrokenbin: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues11:09
WebIt was there till release 5.04 without an update, ican't find  it anymore, only on debian dists11:10
brokenbini have tried to read over them11:10
brokenbinbut i still couldn't boot the installation image11:10
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vrkhansi think that way it will install mozilla again11:10
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hyper_chvrkhans: I don't know for sure... it's worth a try11:10
hyper_chbrokenbin: you can also install it from floppy, from netboot, usb-pen stick, ...11:10
brokenbinfloppy?11:11
brokenbincan you link me to an instruction?11:11
hyper_chbrokenbin: it's all on that help.ubuntu installtion webiste11:11
Danilamaxamillion, j1mc, TheSheep_, thanks for your time, will share the solution if find one, or will have to use winxp for surfing. brrrr : (11:11
WebUse Debian etch             have a nice evening.  bye11:12
maxamillionDanila: sorry to hear that, i'm sure there is some solution out there .... good luck11:12
vrkhansya i am trying to install eclipse and it is installing mozilla again11:12
DanilaBye11:12
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vrkhansany suggestion11:13
brokenbinyea... i have read the whole thing11:13
brokenbinwhen i boot from grub, it sais file not found11:13
maxamillionvrkhans: thats strange11:13
maxamillionvrkhans: .... its things like this why ubuntu fails ... too many meta packages randomly grabbing extra apps11:14
hyper_chmaxamillion: ubuntu isn't perfect... but neither is any other OS :)11:15
hyper_chbesides, if ubuntu was perfect I wouldn't be here anymore :)11:15
vrkhansya that is strange11:15
hyper_chvrkhans: so try uninstalling mozilla and reinstall eclipse11:16
vrkhanshyper_ch: then what do you think you will be :-)11:16
kuposup maxamillion11:16
maxamillionnodda11:16
vrkhansthats what i did its ecliplse which is installing mozilla11:17
maxamillionhyper_ch: define "perfect"?11:17
maxamillion:)11:17
hyper_chmaxamillion: perfect: anything works the way I want it to without me being required to do something11:17
maxamillionhyper_ch: you should own a Mac11:17
vrkhansi wish11:17
hyper_chmaxamillion: macs aren't perfect either11:18
vrkhansI think too11:18
maxamillionhyper_ch: they fit your description11:18
hyper_chmaxamillion: they don't11:18
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brokenbinhyper_ch: i can't find anything...11:18
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hyper_chbrokenbin: it's there how to do... I've never tried it but it seems to work for others11:19
brokenbinwell, can someone point me to some light?11:19
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maxamillionhyper_ch: i think debian stable is as perfect as you can get by the definition of "without flaw" but ... well, there are so many more factors its pointless to make such a statement11:20
brokenbinlol11:20
kupowhats up brokenbin ?11:21
vrkhanshey guys which one is the program files dir over here where i can install my custom apps like realplayer11:21
brokenbinjust wondering how to install xubuntu11:21
hyper_chmaxamillion: even debian has flaws :)11:21
brokenbinhere's what i have done so far... i have downloaded the iso file,11:21
maxamillionhyper_ch: that's subject to opinion ;)11:21
vrkhansbrokenbin : which one11:21
vrkhansdesktop or the alternate one11:22
hyper_chmaxamillion: can debian be run on any hardware?11:22
brokenbinvrkhans: xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso11:22
brokenbinand also vmlinuz and intrd.gz11:22
maxamillionhyper_ch: almost11:22
brokenbini have also edited the grub configuration file11:23
hyper_chsee, almost11:23
hyper_chthere's a limitation hence not perfect11:23
maxamillionhyper_ch: debian can run on more hardware than any other OS on the planet11:23
brokenbinbut when i try to book11:23
brokenbin*boot11:23
vrkhansits a self boot just boot from this CD and then it will explain it self what to do11:23
brokenbinit says error 15, can't find the file or soemthing like that11:23
vrkhanshmm11:23
vrkhansdid you burn the iso image properly11:24
kupovrkhans: I believe he's tring to boot off the iso image not a cd11:24
vrkhansthats what i think11:24
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kbrookswheeeeeeeee!11:24
brokenbini didn't burn it11:24
maxamillionkbrooks: hi11:24
vrkhansoh11:24
brokenbinbecause i don't have a burner11:24
maxamillion:)11:24
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vrkhans:-)11:25
maxamillionlol11:25
brokenbinthat's why i am trying to install it from a hd11:25
kupobrokenbin: what do you have?11:25
vrkhansthen you have too burn a cd from this iso image11:25
brokenbinit says on the site that you can boot from this image11:25
kupobrokenbin: floppy, network boot?11:25
brokenbinfrom a harddrive11:25
kupoyou need someway to mount the image first though11:25
kuposomething to boot the image11:25
brokenbinBooting the installation system directly from a hard disk is another option for many architectures. This will require some other operating system to load the installer onto the hard disk.11:26
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brokenbini would try floppy, but i don't know how11:26
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kupoI've done floppy with debian its not fun11:26
brokenbinhow so?11:26
kupoyou could remove the hd an put it in a computer with a burner11:27
kupofloppies tend to die11:27
kupooh write incorrectly11:27
brokenbinok...11:28
brokenbinanyway to point grub to boot from the install system?11:28
brokenbinim on fedora right now11:28
maxamillionbrokenbin: i'm sorry11:28
hyper_chbrokenbin: how did you get fedora installed?11:30
hyper_chbrokenbin: and can't you burn the cd anywhere? It's the simplest thing to do...11:30
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brokenbincd11:30
brokenbini bought it11:30
brokenbineven if i didn't11:31
hyper_chbrokenbin: what about having the cd burnt at some friends place?11:31
brokenbini can use a floppy11:31
brokenbinwell, right now im on a vacation11:31
brokenbinbrb, let me try something11:32
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graziehey I see partman is being used on feisty desktop instead of gparted11:45
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vrkhansi just install realplayer in a wrong place, how can i remove it: this is how i install it:chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin11:49
vrkhansnot trying to remove it11:50
vrkhansdont know how11:50
kupowhy would anyone install Realplayer?11:50
maxamillionkupo: i dunno11:51
kupoyou're prolly gonna have to fish around on realplayer's site vrkhans for how to uninstall it11:51
reaVeris there a source package for madwifi?11:51
=== grazie the realplayer guys don't like people uninstalling :(
kupoi don't believe so reaVer11:52
kupograzie: which brings me back to the first question11:52
kupo"why would anyone install Realplayer?"11:52
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reaVerkupo: then how am I supposed to use the ubuntu sources to build my own kernel?:'(11:53
reaVer(alsa drivers in that kernel are fubarred)11:53
vrkhanskupo to play those file format11:53
kupoyou've got to compile the madwifi source against the kernel sources to create a module reaVer11:53
reaVervrkhans: get mplayer11:53
kupoor vlc11:53
reaVerkupo: I'm not a newb:/11:54
kupook so then you're good to go?11:54
reaVer-_-11:54
grazie!kernel | reaVer11:54
ubotureaVer: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild11:54
reaVersigh11:55
graziebut I think there is a better guide...let me check11:55
reaVerI know how to build a custom kernel11:55
kupoyeah he only needs to compile a module not the whole kernel11:55
reaVerI'm just saying it's rather hard if you can't get your wireless card to work afterwards11:55
reaVerkupo: no11:55
reaVeralsa sound in the kernel is broken11:55
reaVerand I can't compile alsa source at all11:55
reaVerI compiled a new kernel to see if I could fix that11:56
kupooh I though you were asking about madwifi11:56
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reaVerI didn't fix it, but at the same time there was no way for me to reactivate my wireless11:56
reaVerwhat I wondering is, is where did that package go?11:56
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kupowhich package ? alsa or madwifi?11:57
reaVermadwifi-source11:57
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kupooh old ones were depreciated and removed11:58
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reaVeroh, and how am I supposed to get a driver for my atheros card if it's been deprecated?11:59
kupomadwifi.org11:59
cellofellowIs there any software for processing Pentax RAW images? of perhaps Nikon would work, same sensor chip.12:02
cellofellow!raw12:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:02
cellofellow:(12:03
reaVerhow do I compile modules for a binary kernel?12:04
PuMpErNiCkLe!info dcraw12:04
ubotudcraw: decode raw digital camera images. In component main, is extra. Version 8.38-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 344 kB12:05
cellofellowok12:05
cellofellowcan try it.12:05
cellofellowreaVer: get the headers12:05
PuMpErNiCkLeThere's even a GIMP plugin for dcraw.12:05
cellofellowcool12:05
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reaVercellofellow: doesn't work that way12:06
reaVerI already tried that12:06
cellofellowbuild a kernel then. download linux-source-`uname -r` I think that's it.12:07
reaVercellofellow: yeah, if that would work-_-12:07
kuporeaVer: you'll need the headers and the source of your running kernel12:08
reaVeryes12:08
reaVerremember I said BINARY kernel12:08
kupoyeah you'll need to get the SOURCE of your kernel12:09
kupouse apt-get12:09
reaVerif I do that it will still get build for a different kernel then the binary kernel12:10
kupowhy what kernel are you using?12:10
reaVer2.6.20-11 is the binary kernel12:11
reaVer2.6.20.3 will by my own compiled version of it12:11
kupoyou've lost me12:12
kupowhats the output of uname -r12:12
reaVerroot@NeoSkystalker:/usr/src/modules/madwifi-0.9.2.1# uname -r12:12
reaVer2.6.20-11-lowlatency12:12
reaVerthis is the binary kernel12:12
kupoi think we're having a communication issue here12:13
kupowhen you say binary kernel you mean the kernel you have compiled yourself that is now loaded and runnig12:14
reaVerwhen I say binary I'm talking about a kernel I recieved in binary form12:14
reaVerthus the one I got from Xubuntu12:14
kupobut that kernel has to come from somewhere, true you can download a kernel image and run in that way but the source is still available12:14
kupoyes thats called a kernel image12:14
kuposince someone already compiled it for you12:14
kuposo what you want is the source for that image12:15
kupowhich would be 2.6.20-1112:15
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