[12:12] <morvok> RadiantFire: brb, reboot.. I loaded a new module last time. maybe it is causing the issue.
[12:13] <gamer_> !adept locked
[12:13] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[12:14] <gamer_> !unlock repository
[12:14] <gamer_> does anyone know how to unlock the adept repository so im not stuck in read only mode
[12:14] <mrbrdo> can you configure kdetv to use composite instead of tuner method?
[12:15] <cosmo_> how do I tell what version of the nvidia driver I am using?
[12:18] <morvok> RadiantFire: no affect. any ideas?
[12:19] <philipp__> hello, good evening, i have a problem. when i press strg alt f1 (-f6) the X (xgl with fglrx) hangs up, the output freeze (a lot of vertical lines). i cannot go back with strg alt f7
[12:19] <gamer_> !apt locked
[12:19] <ubotu> apt: Advanced front-end for dpkg. In component main, is important. Version 0.6.45ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 1398 kB, installed size 4324 kB
[12:20] <gamer_> !locked
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <gamer_> !repository
[12:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:23] <gamer_> !kill process
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kill process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <gamer_> !kill
[12:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:23] <intelikey> where is that info page on why freenode doesn't allow tor connetions ?
[12:23] <beta> could someone do me a favour and try to put 127.0.0.1 as port in firefox then close the prefernce dialoge and bring it up again?
[12:23] <gamer_> !process
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <beta> and see if localhost is still set
[12:24] <intelikey> fond it.
[12:24] <gamer_> !process
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <niklaus> ...
[12:29] <gamer_> !unlock repository
[12:30] <Lynoure> gamer_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment. (You are welcome, and this was hopefully my last bit of support for at least a week)
[12:31] <acme> hi all
[12:32] <beta> hi
[12:32] <acme> does anybody know how to get rid of the login screen after suspend?
[12:34] <gamer_> thank you Lynoure
[12:34] <gdiebel> acme: no way to do that
[12:34] <acme> gdiebel: really? that
[12:34] <acme> a pitty
[12:35] <acme> gdiebel: I found in /etc/default/apci-suppoort "LOCK_SCREEN=true", but changing it, didn
[12:35] <acme> didnt help
[12:35] <gamer_> !aptitude
[12:35] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:38] <gamer_> anyone know how to unlock the packaging system database
[12:38] <gamer_> ive tried killing processes but that doesnt work
[12:38] <acme> gdiebel: I'm trying to set up a media pc, and come pretty far, but this login screen on resume from S3 is very ugly
[12:42] <acme> all: OK, thanks for your support anyway. I'll keep on trying, maybe its possible somehow.
[12:44] <gdiebel> acme: the kde screen lock does not respect the setting in acpi-support
[12:46] <fdsfsf> http://taleworld.sytes.net Join Please
[12:47] <acme> gdiebel: :-) yes, thats exacley my experience too ;-)  your answer: "No way" sounds very bad. I really hope, theres a way to fool the system to get rid of this screen
[12:47] <nagyv> Which is the best way to help out feisty without touching your actual os?
[12:48] <crimsun_> use a vm image of feisty? use a feisty desktop cd?
[12:49] <morvok> hrm.. I managed to fix mplayer but I don't understand why it and kaffeine broke.
[12:49] <nagyv> crimsun_: the desktop CD is not fully functional, so where could I find a howto for the vm? (what should I google for?)
[12:50] <morvok> radiantFire: I found how you remove those annoying messages that you said you get on it some times too :)
[12:50] <crimsun_> nagyv: how do you mean it's not fully functional?
[12:51] <nagyv> crimsun: given it's just a live CD,it has some limitations
[12:51] <acme> nagyv: Im running feisty, it seems to be functional :-)
[12:51] <Pupeno--> does anybody know the name of channel about "professional" sound on linux?
[12:52] <khirr> !rar
[12:52] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:54] <nagyv> acme: arrgh, I did not said that it is wrong, but it is a beta, and I would like to try it out, check the bugs I have submitted, etc, but I do not want to risk my actual stable setup
[12:56] <acme> nagyv: to be honest, Im not the type of guy whos using a vmware-instance, I plug a hd into my system and do a install from scratch, there, so my system isnt compromised at all
[12:58] <acme> OK, thanks for your support, I have to sleep now, its late here in germany! bye
[01:00] <beta> can i attch a terminal to konq somehow
[01:00] <beta> attach
[01:00] <beta> im just reading it in a tut but its wrong
[01:01] <beta> Windows --> show terminal emulator
[01:01] <beta> no window entry in the menu bar so obviously wrong
[01:02] <beta> it would be great to have an attched terminal in the file browser though...my desktop is a mess...windows flying around everyhwere
[01:05] <Linux_Galore> beta: ?? there is a terminal option in the browser
[01:06] <beta> Linux_Galore: where then? or were you asking as well?
[01:06] <Linux_Galore> beta: press alt T
[01:07] <martiny> como configurar una tarjeta de sonido audigy 7.1
[01:07] <beta> Linux_Galore: doenst do it
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> beta: settings -> configure shortcuts   type  term in the searcc box
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> search*
[01:08] <martiny> exuseme, some body can tell me about configure a sound card audigy 7.1 ?
[01:08] <Linux_Galore> beta: click on terminal emulator
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> beta: set it to custom and I try alt T as the settings
[01:09] <beta> Linux_Galore: ah it was on F8 here....searching didnt work thoug
[01:09] <beta> thx, this is great
[01:10] <beta> this will be a good starting point to clean up my messy desktop
[01:10] <beta> i really need to develop some kind of....workflow or whatever you may call it ;)
[01:10] <Pupeno__> Does anybody know what's the name of that channel dedicated to audio on Linux?
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> beta: another trick to save you having multiple windows is to split the one you have, make it easy to do drag and drop
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> beta: right click on the bottom of the file browser window and select split left right
[01:11] <beta> Linux_Galore: already got that :)
[01:12] <beta> why is it called a terminal emulator though...whats the difference to a real terminal?
[01:12] <Pupeno__> beta: a real tearminal is a piece of hardware with a monitor and a keyboard.
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> beta: you have to search within the configure shortcuts menu
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> s/menu/window
[01:13] <beta> doesnt show a thing...didnt even show anthing when i put "Alt" in
[01:14] <beta> something isnt working there...but not an issue for now
[01:14] <johey> When running java from the term, it starts GNU java (gij) or something. I want it to start Sun java. How to I do that?
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> beta: I often forget the keyboard shortcuts for konqueror so I use Settings-> Configure shortcuts   then just type a few letters in the search box  ie  "term"
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> johey: you missed a step in the howto
[01:15] <johey> Linux_Galore: What howto?
[01:15] <beta> Linux_Galore: so why is it called a terminal emulator?
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> !java
[01:15] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:15] <Pupeno__> Any recommende audio player that can play through Jack (other than XMMS and alsaplayer)?
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> beta: because its not a true terminal
[01:16] <vursitis> im so sorry to whomever has to install java
[01:16] <johey> Thanks!
[01:16] <vursitis> lol
[01:16] <crimsun_> Pupeno__: there's an alsa-lib jack plugin.
[01:16] <vursitis> i don't remember exactly how to do it, i only remember it taking somewhere around 3 hours
[01:16] <beta> Linux_Galore: so whats the differnece to the bash terminal i bring up via the mneu....or are both actually called tterminal "emulator"?
[01:16] <Linux_Galore> johey: type sudo update-alternatives --config java  in a terminal
[01:17] <johey> Linux_Galore: sun-java5-jre is already installed.
[01:17] <johey> Linux_Galore: Ok.
[01:17] <Linux_Galore> johey: that command allows you to set the system default version of java
[01:18] <johey> Linux_Galore: Ah. Now we're talking... :) Thanks alot!
[01:18] <Pupeno__> crimsun_: what does that do?
[01:19] <crimsun_> Pupeno__: routes native alsa apps to jack
[01:19] <Pupeno__> crimsun_: interesting.
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> beta: they are both emulators
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> beta: in fact your desktop is running in a termina
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> terminal*
[01:21] <beta> Linux_Galore: ok thx:)
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> beta: even more fun you can have up to 16 desktop running all at the same time, I think ubuntu has 8 tty sessions you can use by default,  press ctrl alt F1 to see another terminal  and ctrl alt F7  to get back to your desktop
[01:22] <vursitis> i think you can have up to 20 can't you?
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> beta: you can run gnome and kde both at the same time if you want too and just swap from one to the other
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> beta: run gnome in one session and kde in another
[01:23] <beta> Linux_Galore: did it close that terminal after ctrl + alt + f7 or do i have to close it now somehow?
[01:23] <Moniker42> what's a good msn/jabber client for kde?
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> beta: nope it never closes "they are always there"
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> Moniker42: gaim or kopete
[01:24] <beta> Linux_Galore: er, what do you mean? if i boot linux it automatically starts 20 terminal sessions that are always up and running?
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> Moniker42: gaim does the whole lot, even has yahoo chat and irc
[01:25] <Moniker42> but i don't like gaim ;)
[01:25] <Moniker42> at least, i didn't like it in gnome...
[01:25] <Moniker42> and it has a bunch of FTP problems with msn that annoy me
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> beta: ok when linux boots it loads the kernel then runs some scripts but also it starts a few tty terminal sessions,  in one it runs your desktop
[01:25] <beta> Linux_Galore: allright thx
[01:26] <Linux_Galore> beta:  ie  ctrl alt F1/F2/F3->F8  are all tty terminal sessions that are running
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> beta: F7 is the default for the "first" X session (desktop)
[01:27] <niklaus> Hallo@l.
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> beta: you can have others
[01:27] <beta> as a linux noob i always tried to read up on edit config files and stuff after a fresh install....trying to understand linux. but having kde now for the first time i see what a blatand mistake that was
[01:27] <Yeason> I'm trying to install kubuntu on an older dell laptop, it's a PII, does anyone know what cd module I need to tell it to load?
[01:28] <niklaus> Habe ein kleines Problem, kann mir jemand helfen? (Ich versuchs erst in deutsch)
[01:28] <beta> i mean its obviously such a powerful working environment...its worth getting confident with it as well at the same time
[01:29] <beta> niklaus: there is a german kubuntu channel usually has around 30-60 users
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> beta: well Linux for starters is "trully" multi user so it allows multiple users to use a single machine, and that also includes connecting multiple screens and keyboard to one machine with each user having his/her own desktop
[01:29] <Pupeno__> crimsun_: is alsa-lib jack plugin packaged for Kubuntu?
[01:29] <crimsun_> Pupeno__: of course. libasound2-plugins
[01:30] <crimsun_> (unless you're using feisty)
[01:30] <cpk1> beta: terminals 1-7 are always running and then if you start another X session it will start more, is how I believe it works
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> beta: great in schools because you dont have to have heaps of machines, you can have 4 or more students on one machine
[01:30] <niklaus> Kann mir jemand auf "deutsch" helfen.
[01:30] <Pupeno__> !de
[01:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:31] <beta> cpk1:  thx
[01:31] <Pupeno__> crimsun_: I am ot, but what's the difference if I am?
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> cpk1: varies I find,  ie many distro set the :1  session on F6
[01:31] <niklaus> Thanks!
[01:31] <crimsun_> Pupeno__: because we don't build it in feisty.
[01:31] <Pupeno__> crimsun_: why?
[01:31] <crimsun_> Pupeno__: because it was promoted to main for pulseaudio, and jack is in universe.
[01:31] <beta> linux_Galore: yes, the windows multiuser support is horrible...actually there isnt really a working one
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> ie   ctrl alt F1  login     xinti  /usr/bin/startkde  -- :1
[01:32] <Yeason> does anyone know what module I need to tell kubuntu to load, the alternate cd isn't detecting it automatically, this is for an old Dell laptop running a PII processor
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> beta: try what I just typed,  get two different desktops
[01:32] <Pupeno__> crimsun_: what is pulseaudio?
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> beta:   typo on the command  xinit /usr/bin/startkde  -- :1   heh
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> beta: kill the second desktop with ctrl alt backspace  and ctrl alt F7 to get back to the default
[01:34] <nagyv> Linux_Galore: isn't this the same then right click over the desktop, and choose new whatever from the Change user submenu?
[01:34] <beta> Linux_Galore: i better dont for the moment...dont want to mess soemthing up i dont need it for now :) but thx anyway
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> beta: it has no effect on the system, you not changing anything
[01:36] <beta> Linux_Galore: i for sure would forget some of the keystrokes or bashinputs then being cuaght up on the bash where im not confident yet hehe
[01:37] <beta> being lost
[01:37] <beta> on the bash suits better i guess
[01:38] <ernie> beta: Use the ole Pen and paper to write these things down with - they you jsut have to remember how to read - and not remember keystrokes :)
[01:38] <Linux_Galore> beta: you can do the same with the start new session   in your menu
[01:39] <Linux_Galore> beta: just this way you actually see how it works
[01:40] <beta> ernie: so true...i wish all the time i had a book in my hands to read stuff up instead of having to drag around multiple pdf documents on the desktop ;)
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> beta: dont fear bash, especially if your not using sudo
[01:41] <beta> Linux_Galore: yes im thankful for the lesson didnt knew there were several terminals running per default - interesting
[01:42] <beta> but for now i allow myself to be blown away by the kde enviroment, reading the handbook at the moment....then later back to the "technical stuff"
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> beta: www.kde-look.org  is a great place to get extra stuff for changing kde
[01:43] <beta> knew = know
[01:44] <beta> Linux_Galore: thx, might go there after completing the handbook...need something "slimmer" i feel
[01:45] <ernie> beta: when you do learn something - no matter how basic - write it down - I'm just realising I should have when I 1st set my system - cause I'm head scratching on my reinstall right now :)
[01:46] <beta> ernie: your right...and i just started with it yesterday!
[01:47] <nagyv> beta: the funny thing is when you write it down on your computer, and then you are thinking how to get to your notes :)
[01:48] <morvok> does Kubuntu not have a linux-tree package?
[01:48] <ernie> beta: Well I'm upto getting my dual monitors working (again) and I think I am doing what I did last time - but I'm hitting hurdles :) Although fun - I shouldn't be relearning stuff I conquered once before
[01:49] <ernie> nagyv: all the notes I did make are on my old HD :)
[01:49] <beta> nagyv: hehe im actually surprised by myself but so far i managed that part without problems....uhm, no wait yesterday i almost erased my notes x)
[01:50] <ernie> beta: Pen and paper rules - just make sure you have no hungry little paper munching beasties around :)
[01:52] <slackman007> hasrat_usa
[01:53] <Hasrat_USA> yo slack what's up
[01:53] <Hasrat_USA> sending ya the file
[01:53] <slackman007> ok
[01:53] <beta> ernie: yes, it seems theres some stuff that causes you the same problems everytime no matter which distro...so i started it makes a lot of sense to write them down i realzied....;) build your own personal manual with core stuff you need to get into your head and reread it
[01:54] <beta> i played around with linux before but i realize its time to get more serious with it
[01:54] <beta> - started
[01:55] <ernie> beta:Same here - although while I'm playing - I'm not getting my work done :( but all work and no play makes ernie a dull boy :)
[01:56] <Hasrat_USA> slack you're getting it?
[02:00] <slackman007> yep, its coming
[02:00] <slackman007> eta is 7 hours now
[02:00] <slackman007> now 46
[02:00] <slackman007> lol
[02:00] <slackman007> now 164
[02:00] <slackman007> DCC RECV BuildingGodsRoughCut.avi to Hasrat_USA stalled - aborting.
[02:03] <thompa> hi, how do i install grub to linux partition, cant remember..?
[02:03] <thompa> im installing on someones intel macbook, and cant use the mbr because of refit issues
[02:09] <thompa> i got the feisty alternative cd so i guess im ok
[02:10] <losguachones> NickServ
[02:10] <losguachones> #nickserv
[02:10] <neo_> hey all
[02:10] <neo_> im new to this kubuntu
[02:11] <neo_> but wow it rocks
[02:11] <NDPowerBook> neo_: Sure does.
[02:11] <neo_> anyone here know how stable the 6.1 is
[02:11] <NDPowerBook> 6.10 you mean?
[02:11] <neo_> oyea
[02:11] <NDPowerBook> I'm running it and its very stable.
[02:11] <neo_> man linux has come a long way from Mandrake 10
[02:12] <neo_> i just cant believe this
[02:12] <neo_> it was pre installed with the newest version of OpenOffice.org
[02:12] <neo_> ive dabbled
[02:13] <neo_> but the older versions i have played with made it so hard to install software
[02:13] <DoctorEternal> the trick is to replace windoze alltogether and see if you can cope
[02:13] <DoctorEternal> I still have to have a windoze partition for 3ds max
[02:13] <neo_> im on a MS Virtual PC
[02:13] <DoctorEternal> hoping they port it
[02:14] <neo_> on with xp as the host
[02:14] <neo_> man it runds just fine here on the Virtual PC though
[02:14] <NDPowerBook> neo_: As soon as you install Kubuntu you should also install EasyUbuntu (an app not a distro) which will easily install all your video codecs that you'll need (such as wmv, quicktime..etc)
[02:15] <neo_> ill check it out
[02:15] <neo_> any one know how i can get the sound to work on a Virtual PC running Kubuntu
[02:15] <neo_> thats the only thing that doen't work
[02:16] <neo_> god this is soooo slick
[02:16] <cpk1> neo_: NO do not use easyubuntu
[02:17] <neo_> its like a cross between windows xp, vista and osx
[02:17] <cpk1> getting media to work is already incredibly simple you dont need to use something that might cause problems later when you dont need to
[02:18] <neo_> i love this they actually got linux to be really GUI functional
[02:18] <NDPowerBook> http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hd3-complication/vulcania-naval-watch-what-no-cannons-245022.php
[02:18] <C2H5OH> hi
[02:18] <NDPowerBook> cpk1: What are you talking about?
[02:19] <C2H5OH> I'm a bit puzzled, the rsync server from cdimage.ubuntu.com only contains DVD ISO images of stable releases
[02:19] <C2H5OH> where can I find the edgy livecd iso?
[02:19] <C2H5OH> (from rsync)
[02:19] <neo_> Im a network admin and we are looking at a public internet pc kiosk system that uses linux with openoffice
[02:20] <neo_> and quite frankly i did'n't like the idea but if it works this well i might buy it
[02:20] <NDPowerBook> For an internet kiosk that people aren't going to be able to install stuff too Linux is an excellent choice.
[02:20] <NDPowerBook> In fact it may be the best choice.
[02:21] <neo_> this is a system that lets you use one box and emulates up to 10 desktops that whipe completely clean when the user logs off
[02:21] <neo_> but i was so out of the net on how far linux has come since i first played with it
[02:22] <neo_> it seams really stable, and the openoffice is so much like MS Office i no longer have a reason to stay away from it
[02:22] <NDPowerBook> Yeah OO is great.
[02:23] <NDPowerBook> And of course Google Docs is getting better everyday too.
[02:23] <neo_> this whole system is great
[02:23] <neo_> im soooo impressed
[02:23] <neo_> the only thing that had me messed up for a while was the video
[02:24] <NDPowerBook> Wrong resolution?
[02:24] <neo_> when i installed and rebooted my video was very distorted yes
[02:24] <_spaz> hmm...
[02:24] <_spaz> weird...
[02:24] <_spaz> i can't log into my regular user account
[02:25] <_spaz> it says it can't start kstartupconfig
[02:25] <neo_> i found a walk through with screen shots that got me rolling to edit the xconf file and i was runing smooth
[02:25] <_spaz> >_>
[02:25] <C2H5OH> is it normal that I can't find the edgy livecd iso image from cdimage.ubuntu.com from rsync?
[02:25] <_spaz> atm i'm using an alternate account
[02:25] <neo_> sorry spaz im stepping on you
[02:26] <NDPowerBook> Yeah but neo is.... The One.
[02:26] <Bi||aBong> why when i install ubuntu gnome and kde run very slow?
[02:27] <_spaz> so?
[02:27] <neo_> im using kde and it seams just fine on 512 meg and AMD3000+
[02:27] <neo_> im running in a virtual pc
[02:27] <_spaz> hehe
[02:28] <_spaz> my computer's worse, and it runs great
[02:28] <NDPowerBook> neo_: When (K)Ubuntu hits 9.x or 10.x thats when I'll start converting certain "problematic" friends and family members over to Linux.
[02:28] <neo_> im ready to do that now
[02:28] <NDPowerBook> Right now I'd limit it to the elderly as they're the least likely to need/want to install new things.
[02:28] <NDPowerBook> But thats just me.
[02:29] <C2H5OH> Bi||aBong: try xfce, if it's still slow, then you'll have to tweak
[02:29] <neo_> you can convert .doc .xls there is no reason to stay with ms office
[02:29] <neo_> it is sooooo cool
[02:29] <NDPowerBook> Yeah I use Open Office or Neo Office on all my computers. (NeoOffice is a Mac port)
[02:30] <neo_> i need to get some theme packs for kde anyone know any real cool transparent ones
[02:30] <neo_> i wanna geek this thing out
[02:31] <neo_> and man IRC is like geek haven
[02:31] <neo_> im with freinds
[02:32] <neo_> i just had a tear in my eye i can feel the geeky warmth here
[02:32] <cpk1> neo_: superkaramba has some cool stuff
[02:32] <neo_> ill check it thanks man
[02:33] <neo_> can i get opera for linux???
[02:33] <_spaz> yes afaik!!!
[02:33] <_spaz> :p
[02:34] <_spaz> brb
[02:36] <neo_> Is that superkaramba.com???
[02:36] <_spaz> meh, fixed my own problem
[02:36] <Schuenemann> Hi, I'm getting X restarted all the time I use blender... what could I do? I have a (crappy) SiS915
[02:36] <_spaz> i just removed my account and added it again
[02:37] <Schuenemann> I mean everytime
[02:37] <neo_> is that superkaramba .org
[02:38] <neo_> i found it
[02:49] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: sounds like a lack of resources
[02:49] <AaronCampbell> Ok, I'm looking to get a video card that will work well with kubuntu, with 2 monitors, and decent resolution (1680x1050).  I was told to go for an nVidia chipset.  Does the manufacturer matter?  Or the version of OpenGL support?  Or anything else?
[02:49] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore, anything I could do? that happens when I type 'glxinfo' too
[02:49] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: you shouldnt run blender with something as basic as an sis chipset
[02:50] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: no 3D support thats why it crashes
[02:50] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore, it was a simple modelling, that should work...
[02:50] <Schuenemann> blender exists before these 3d boards were invented
[02:50] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: lol, not with an sis chipset
[02:51] <Schuenemann> why not? I had blender in my old p133 :p
[02:51] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: imagine I went and bought a really crappy chipset, 9 out of 10 it would have sis slapped on it
[02:52] <Schuenemann> I believe it's a driver problem
[02:52] <Schuenemann> I don't have that problem in window$
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: 3D cards have been around far longer than blender
[02:52] <cpk1> I have an SIS mobo...
[02:52] <Schuenemann> yeah, I but had a really crappy trident 1 MB
[02:52] <Schuenemann> but I*
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: to put it simple, the driver sux in Linux
[02:53] <cpk1> and I like it a lot, it has built in digital out and everything
[02:53] <Schuenemann> can't I do anything?
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: nope
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: might want to try swapping to xfce
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: for the desktop
[02:54] <Schuenemann> what if I try a 32MB geforce?
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: that will work
[02:54] <Schuenemann> but the SiS is 64 MB =)
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: actually its not, it uses system ram
[02:55] <Schuenemann> how can they make something so awful?
[02:55] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: it designed to work with simple 2d apps like office or a web browser
[02:55] <Schuenemann> you think the geforce will have a better overall performance?
[02:57] <NightBird> ?
[02:57] <NightBird> Schuenemann: as in comparison to what?
[02:57] <Hasrat_USA> oh i remember the time when i had a 8 MB S3 (SIS) card in my machine
[02:57] <Schuenemann> can I just switch cards and restart? will it recognize the new card?
[02:57] <Hasrat_USA> and after 5 years i have 256 MB nvidia geforce 7300 LE
[02:57] <Schuenemann> NightBird, to the *sigh* SiS
[02:58] <Hasrat_USA> why isn't XVidCap added to Ubuntu's software repository?
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: yes it will swap over
[02:59] <Hasrat_USA> i launched Synaptics package manager and searched for it but failed to find it anywhere
[02:59] <Schuenemann> ok, I'll try that later, thanks
[02:59] <NightBird> er... I don't know if it will switch to the right driver...
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: the gf card will use proper high speed video ram
[02:59] <NightBird> it might continue to work...
[03:00] <NightBird> but I would suggest downloading the driver you plan on using(such as the nvidia prop driver), change the x server to use that driver, then shutdown, install the card, and start it back up
[03:00] <Schuenemann> I always found it weird... the geforce has a cooler, the SiS doesn't
[03:00] <NightBird> it would be the easiest..
[03:00] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: disable the on board video in the bios
[03:00] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore, why disable?
[03:00] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: forces the issue
[03:00] <NightBird> Schuenemann, because it's not unheard of having onbaord video to mess with a new graphics card
[03:01] <Schuenemann> I don't have onboard video
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: lol so you actually paid for an sis video card
[03:02] <Schuenemann> hehehe
[03:02] <Schuenemann> well, luckily the motherboard isn't like it
[03:02] <beta> is koffice based around openoffice?
[03:03] <Linux_Galore> beta: nope, but both support the ODF file formats
[03:03] <beta> k
[03:03] <bogdan_> hello all
[03:05] <morvok> has anyone compiled rivaTv on edgy?
[03:05] <Linux_Galore> morvok: should just work last I heard
[03:06] <Linux_Galore> morvok: need to install the binary drivers though
[03:06] <beta> everyone seems to be talking about egdy around here lately...dapper is still the latest stable release right?
[03:06] <morvok> Linux_Galore: it won't compile :)
[03:07] <SilentDis> beta: edgy is latest stable, dapper is LTS
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> beta: yes, and we are feature whores
[03:07] <neo_> ok im a newbie im trying to install superkaramba and the instructions tell me to comple the source i did that now what
[03:07] <beta> er edgy is latest stable? since when?
[03:08] <Schuenemann> since october
[03:08] <SilentDis> !edgy | beta
[03:08] <ubotu> beta: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> neo_: ?? why ?  its on the repo you just install the thing with the package manager
[03:08] <neo_> oh ok duh thanks
[03:08] <SilentDis> beta: are you thinking about feisty fawn, Ubunto 7.04?  that's due out next month :)
[03:09] <beta> silent: no i installed dapper cuz i thought the kubuntu website suggested it was the latest stable release
[03:09] <beta> im confused now
[03:10] <beta> i knew the release structure changed somehow since breezy hm
[03:10] <Linux_Galore> beta: dapper has lts (long term support) were edgy is the latest new stable but it wont have the long term support of dapper so you have to update every 6-12 months
[03:11] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore, sorry, what video card should I buy in your opinion?
[03:11] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: if you on a budget a nvidia 6200/7200 is fine if you have a bit of cash 7600
[03:11] <pollyo> Hello
[03:12] <beta> so dapper will never see updates to a newer release?
[03:12] <SilentDis> beta: support for dapper will last longer (very much so on server) than a 'normal' ubuntu release.  otherwise, they are released every 6 months (dapper being an exception, 8 month leadin for it), and supported for 12 or 18 months (I can't remember right now).  dapper was a 'special case' deal, with extra emphasis placed on it's reliability and given 'long term support' status.
[03:12] <Linux_Galore> beta: dapper will have bug fixes for a few years were edgy and feisty wont
[03:12] <pollyo> Anyone have a suggestion for how to boot a live cd or dvd on a Dell Dimension E510.  Kubunutu bombs when I attempt to boot it.
[03:12] <Schuenemann> nvidia is ATI?
[03:12] <SilentDis> beta: dapper will continue to see updates for a full 5 years on server, i believe.
[03:13] <SilentDis> Schuenemann: nope.  those are 2 different vid card chipsets
[03:13] <pollyo> I have an ATI card on it and it appears to have problems with the X windows system.
[03:13] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: dont buy ati for Linux, drivers suck get nvidia
[03:13] <Schuenemann> damn...
[03:13] <SilentDis> pollyo: did you try booting with the 'safe graphics mode' or the like?  by 'bombs' what do you mean?  locks up at some particular point or some such?
[03:13] <beta> bah, i got it from the german kubuntu site which indeed suggests dapper is the latest stable release :(
[03:14] <pollyo> SilenDis: I attempted the safe graphics mode.
[03:14] <Schuenemann> when you login as root, the wallpaper is a lot of bombs
[03:14] <Schuenemann> at least on some distros
[03:14] <beta> quote: Die derzeit aktuelle stabile Version ist Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS "Dapper Drake" which translates to: " the latest stable version is kubuntu 6.06. LTS Dapper drake
[03:14] <pollyo> SilenDis: It comes up with a text based screen that has a red box with information on the error.  I think it said something about not finding a window or a display or something like that.  I can go downstairs and attempt to boot it and get the exact error if you like.
[03:14] <SilentDis> pollyo: during the bootup of the LiveCD, there should be a log console on one of the screens.  I believe you can reach it with ctrl-alt-F8.
[03:15] <gabo> Im tring to convert the macromedia.reg
[03:15] <SilentDis> pollyo: exactly what I was pointing toward.  if you get an error, let us know, we can help with that :D
[03:15] <gabo> but cant intall recode
[03:15] <neo_> Linux_Galore hey im still not getting it im a stupid newbie
[03:15] <gabo> is there an alternate way to do it?
[03:15] <pollyo> SilentDis: Ok.  Thanks.. Be right back...
[03:16] <SilentDis> beta: hit the main site:  http://www.kubuntu.com/ and branch from there.  I'm betting the translation team just hasn't gotten around to it.  :)
[03:16] <beta> silent: yes i just saw it...what a bummer
[03:16] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: there is a project for 3D open source drivers for Linux and Intel have open source drivrs for their stuff ie i950 etc  but ati seem to treat Linux users like they are second class users
[03:16] <gabo> how do i convert a text fiel to ascii
[03:16] <Schuenemann> that sucks
[03:17] <SilentDis> beta: if you download from the main site, translation into german is fully available, just might have to muddle through an english install is all :)
[03:17] <beta> starting out on kubuntu and get an outdated installation because of a translation failure
[03:17] <beta> }:|
[03:17] <SilentDis> Linux_Galore: i'd agree with that statement.  I was due for a vid card upgrade myself, so I switched to nvidia. !envy really helped in that regard too :)
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> beta: try feisty,  its in feature freez right now and it pretty stable so you wont have to update the install for ages
[03:18] <gabo> how do i convert a text file to ascii??
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> gabo: text is ascii
[03:18] <beta> so dapper will always stay dapper...where edgy will update to the newest release via the update manager (once its released)?
[03:19] <SilentDis> gabo: what do you mean by 'convert a text file to ascii'?  most of the time, text files use either UTF-8 or ASCII character sets, and linux supports both fine.  what is the 'end result' you are aiming for?
[03:19] <beta> for example your on edgy and when feist is out ands stable you just upgrade via the updatemanager?
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> beta: it will tell you there is a new version and ask you to update
[03:20] <Schuenemann> wow, that nvidia costs more than an ordinary PC
[03:20] <gabo> im following the instructions to to install the dreamweaver , it says i need to convert the reg file to ascii
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> beta: if you do or not thats your choice, but I would go with feisty right now on a new install less hassle
[03:20] <SilentDis> beta: dapper has the 'dist-upgrade' turned off by default, you can force an update though, see !update.  other (non LTS) distros will not have that restriction on them, and will suggest the upgrade
[03:21] <gabo> but recode wont install throws me an error
[03:21] <SilentDis> Schuenemann: depends on what card you are looking at.  the high end ones can run you $700 or more, yes :)
[03:21] <beta> Linux_Galore: yeah that what i intended to do actually ;)
[03:21] <beta> thx guys
[03:21] <beta> thats a bummer hehe
[03:21] <SilentDis> Schuenemann: I picked up a 7600GS myself, does a great job, cost all of $130 :)
[03:21] <Schuenemann> SilentDis, Alienware ALX Dual 512MB Nvidia 7800GTX's $600
[03:22] <SilentDis> Schuenemann: yeah, that's a high end card hehe.  though, you wouldn't need to worry about upgrading it for a few years :)
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> gabo: actually I have a feelining they mean convert the file from a windows text file to a linux text file
[03:22] <gabo> http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-dreamweaver-and-flash-8-running-on-ubuntu-dapper/
[03:22] <ari> hello !!!
[03:23] <SilentDis> mike__: another TDS user, hello! :D
[03:23] <Linux_Galore> gabo: thats the hard way
[03:23] <Where|here> Hey ari
[03:23] <gabo> and the easy way?
[03:23] <Linux_Galore> gabo: just grab codeweavers it will install it for you
[03:23] <gabo> but it isnt free isnt?
[03:23] <beta> man how can something like that happen....just because of someones laziness to update the official german website
[03:24] <beta> sorry, this reallky sucks
[03:24] <SilentDis> beta: I wouldn't say 'lazy'.  I would say busy.  the LoCo teams and such in germany have been QUITE busy on the various planets as of late :)
[03:24] <beta> its not forgiveable
[03:25] <neo_> ughhh im such an idiot can some one tell me how to install this program i downloaded
[03:25] <Linux_Galore> gabo: no it isnt <cough> http://www.mininova.org/tor/556228
[03:25] <Schuenemann> SilentDis, you bought a 256 MB one?
[03:25] <SilentDis> beta: that is your choice.  and also why we're here, to help fix things like this :)  unless they're distributing rootkits as part of the default install, everything in FOSS is forgiveable to me ;)
[03:25] <SilentDis> Schuenemann: yep.  works awesome :)
[03:26] <beta> FOSS?
[03:26] <Schuenemann> SilentDis, like this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/nVidia-Geforce-7600-GS-256MB-DDR2-PCI-E-Graphics-card_W0QQitemZ260096811072QQcategoryZ3762QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[03:26] <mike__> neo_: what's the program, and how's it packaged?
[03:26] <neo_> its superkramba
[03:26] <neo_> i downloaded the source at the site and cant figure it out
[03:26] <SilentDis> Schuenemann: actually, i went with an AGP card, to extend the life of my aging system.  I really need to build a new box, but this stopgap allowed me a few more months of use :)
[03:27] <Schuenemann> didn't realize it was pci
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> neo_: what are you trying to do ? install superkeramba or a plugin ?
[03:27] <neo_> install it
[03:27] <SilentDis> Schuenemann: it's not, it's PCIE, PCI-Extended.
[03:27] <ari> i installed beryl a few days ago and i found out that my mouse (that used to be to the left of my screen) couldn't work out some of beryl's functions that needed clicking (like changing desktops with ctrl+alt+mouse). is there a way to fix that and have my left-handed mouse again ?
[03:27] <Schuenemann> hmm
[03:27] <johey> I just updated Firefox to the latest version, and by doing that, it now segfaults when trying to choose Show->Toolbar->Settings (or whatever it is called in English (I'm using a Swedish version)). Is it just me or is this a bug in the latest release?
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> neo_:   sudo apt-get install superkeramba
[03:28] <neo_> ok ill try that im such a blunder head
[03:28] <mike__> neo_: what he said.
[03:28] <mike__> neo_: compiling from source wouldn't be to hard, but why when apt-get will get what you need
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> neo_: latest ver of suprkeramba will download and install the plugins for you
[03:29] <johey> I have Firefox Version: 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3
[03:29] <beta> which kernel version does the latest stable debian use?
[03:29] <mike__> whee. new system76 laptop.
[03:29] <SilentDis> beta: 2.6.17-11
[03:30] <beta> thx
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> neo_: command should be  sudo apt-get install  superkaramba  sorry
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> typo on the name
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> in*
[03:30] <neo_> ok
[03:31] <SilentDis> beta: looks like they're going with 2.6.20-x for feisty at this point.  first ubuntu to have realtime kernel stuff as a default.  yay! :D
[03:32] <Linux_Galore> SilentDis: RHEL 5 has 2.6.20
[03:32] <SilentDis> Linux_Galore: yep.  I said first UBUNTU for a reason.  I was hoping to see 2.6.18 make it for edgy, but it just squeeked under.  ah well :)
[03:33] <Linux_Galore> SilentDis: with multi core cpu virtualisation seems to be the new buzz word
[03:33] <SilentDis> Linux_Galore: feels like the '80s all over again.  Blast-fax kudos to you! :D
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> SilentDis: I cant see the ubuntu guys releasing feisty after rhel 5 is out with an older kernel lol
[03:35] <beta> iam at a point where i wonder if there is actually just one linux distro out there with manuals and a handbook that is really up to date
[03:35] <SilentDis> Linux_Galore: eh.  DSL still runs a 2.4 kernel... then again, they're tailored for more low-end hardware :)
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> beta: trying to nail Linux down in a book is like trying to stop the tide
[03:35] <beta> i can understand the problems
[03:36] <beta> but ist a pain in the ass
[03:36] <SilentDis> beta: that's REALLY hard to do for linux in general, and especially hard for ubuntu.  with the 6-month release cycle, by the time the book hits the shelves, the next version is already out.
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> SilentDis: yeah but there is a reason for dsl running a 2.4 kernel, for allot of older hardware 2.4 works better than 2.6
[03:36] <beta> especially as they seem to drop standards all over
[03:36] <beta> silent: yes i can clearly see how it is especially hard for ubuntu
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> beta: the base rules stay pretty static though, I did my Linux certification about 3 years ago and I have no issues with new stuff
[03:38] <Linux_Galore> beta: Ive got a big thick Unix book from 9 years ago i still use it to this day
[03:38] <beta> the debian installation guide says Copyright  2004, 2005 so i cant expect it to be up to date i assume ;)
[03:39] <Linux_Galore> beta: also the kde desktop is getting a big update this year  ie kde 4
[03:39] <beta> Linux_Galore: yes, but your are computer literate actual a profesional as you suggest....im not im just a user who cant spent all 12 hours available per day on computers...nor am i willing to
[03:39] <SilentDis> beta: won't be perfect, but the basic stuff is still right.  file locations usually don't change, as an example, just the tools to access them.  apt-get to aptitude to synaptic/adept as example.  same basic underlying code, just a new 'face' on top :)
[03:39] <beta> and there isnt anything wrong with both of it
[03:40] <Linux_Galore> beta: well the idea is to get it all setup then just let the auto update manager do the rest
[03:40] <beta> and its kinda disappointing that the distro that wants to reach out to the most users...has some of the worst documentation
[03:40] <beta> i will probably get falmed for saying this but its how i feel
[03:40] <SilentDis> beta: and, come here and ask.  that's why most of us hang out here.  I might not know much, but I know enough to help :)
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> beta: there is a really good book by O'Rielly  covering Ubuntu
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> beta: its called Ubuntu hacks
[03:41] <wheatie> There are other popular distros with much MUCH worse documentation in general then Ubuntu.
[03:42] <Linux_Galore> Gentoo has the best documentation but then it needs it
[03:42] <Linux_Galore> its very complex
[03:42] <SilentDis> beta: that's one thing about the ubuntu community i've found.  for the most part, unless someone degenerates into personal attacks, the flame never starts out "oh you stupid noob".  that REALLY put me off of linux on the desktop about 5 years ago when I was playing with Red Hat.  I'm glad I tried ubuntu out, the community is AWESOME :)
[03:42] <Schuenemann> of course
[03:42] <Schuenemann> you need to recompile the kernel just to use a single pen drive
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> Gentoo = tweakers wet dream
[03:43] <pollyo> Hello
[03:43] <SilentDis> !hi | pollyo
[03:43] <ubotu> pollyo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:43] <SilentDis> *giggle*
[03:43] <pollyo> I got a version of Kubuntu to boot up on my Dell E510 but now the wireless network card doesn't work.
[03:43] <pollyo> SilentDis: Any idea how to get a Netgear WG311v3 to work?
[03:43] <SilentDis> pollyo: i haven't messed with wireless yet... but the FAQs usually do a good job of things...  some areas to check out...
[03:44] <SilentDis> !wireless | pollyo
[03:44] <ubotu> pollyo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:44] <Linux_Galore> pollyo: what version of kubuntu
[03:44] <beta> SilentDis: its honorable you say that...linux users can actually be really unhelpful to put it mildly to beginners...quite controverse to what youre being told ;)
[03:44] <pollyo> SilentDis: Ok Thanks.
[03:44] <pollyo> Linux_Galore: It is Feisty...  I couldn't get the earlier version to boot at all.
[03:45] <beta> great english there ;)
[03:45] <pollyo> Linux_Galore: I attempted a Live DVD of the the one that is currently releast (Before Feisty) and just got a black screen discussing the Linux ubuntu 2.6.17....etc..etc..
[03:45] <Linux_Galore> pollyo: yeah, feisty seems to be more dell friendly
[03:45] <SilentDis> beta: i chalk that up more to familiarity than anything.  I can sit here and tap out commands on a term screen all day and wonder why other's can't.  it wasn't until I tried ubuntu and had my first taste of the X Windows environment (I'd been running BSD servers without xwindows installed for years) that it really struck me that 'this is not something everyone does, and people do need help with it' :)
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> pollyo: edgy has a bug but can be fixed
[03:46] <pollyo> Linux_Galore: Is it a boot option that will fix it from the Live DVD?
[03:46] <reldruh> does anybody know if/when k3b 1.0 will get into the repos?
[03:47] <SilentDis> reldruh: let me check something right quick...
[03:47] <reldruh> SilentDis: thanks :-)
[03:49] <Linux_Galore> pollyo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron510m
[03:49] <pollyo> Linux_Galore: Thanks.
[03:50] <DisabledDuck> is there any way to disable the splash screen and just have Kubuntu show the processes being run?
[03:50] <SilentDis> reldruh: i'm pulling the current package list for feisty now, this might take me a few moments, i'm unforunatly stuck on dialup :P
[03:51] <beta> maybe i should give debian a try again
[03:51] <reldruh> SilentDis: will I have to wait for feisty to get it? That would be sad...
[03:51] <beta> i need to get more  serious with linux and i need to choose a distro to stick to for the next year or so
[03:52] <beta> a debian based one is probably a good choice
[03:52] <SilentDis> reldruh: you can pull latest version and hand install, but that's a huge pain.  let me check another repo, give me a moment here
[03:52] <SilentDis> reldruh: also, feisty is all of a month away ;)
[03:52] <reldruh> SilentDis: who says I'm going to upgrade right away? :-)
[03:52] <DisabledDuck> how can i disable the kubuntu splash screen?
[03:52] <reldruh> SilentDis: and I'm still on dapper at work, but it would be nice to not be stuck with older versions of software
[03:53] <SilentDis> reldruh: what, you aren't a feature whore like the rest of us?  lol
[03:53] <beta> meh...giving me an outdated instalkl cuz you cant upgrade the official website of the distro
[03:53] <beta> i cant get over it
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> beta: you will try a few then stick with one, we all do it, bit like buying cars, we swap around for a while then settle on one maker
[03:53] <beta> Linux_Galore: yeah, and i ned to settle down now
[03:53] <reldruh> SilentDis: of course I am. It was a purely hypothetical statement :-) If I wasn't a feature whore would I be complaining about it not being in the repos less than week after it was released? :-)
[03:54] <SilentDis> reldruh: lol point taken, and it's not even been 1 day!  LOL
[03:54] <beta> but ubuntus problems with keeping their documentation up to date drives me away as much as the gebneral ease of use is attracting me :(
[03:54] <Linux_Galore> beta: you got on the boat just as we are getting it all working lol
[03:55] <reldruh> SilentDis: I'm looking at the feisty package list on launchpad right now and I still see 0.12.17
[03:55] <beta> it seems still seems to be the only distro i can setup without much hassle out of the box...being the braindead noob iam
[03:55] <SilentDis> reldruh: ahh, right from the k3b website (http://www.k3b.org/), Kubuntu will have it available in backports soon :)
[03:55] <HacksawSA> Hi, folks. I'm having a problem installing 6.10: it crashes
[03:56] <beta> Linux_Galore: hehe, yes not wanting to flame ubuntu for anything...its great what they do
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> beta: well Ubuntu main aim is to make the whole thing as simple as possible without removing the ability to be changed
[03:56] <HacksawSA> I even know why it crashes: bad video hardware.
[03:56] <reldruh> SilentDis: " k3b's latest binary packages are available in the 'edgy' branch" Doesn't that sound like it should already be available on edgy?
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> beta: its a fine balancing act, make it too simple and its annoying, too complex and people get confused
[03:57] <DisabledDuck> does anyone know how to disable the Kubuntu boot-up screen?
[03:57] <beta> yes
[03:57] <HacksawSA> I know the work around: software cursor. But I don't know how to get the installation disk to start in text mode.
[03:58] <SilentDis> reldruh: i'm running official, and k3b is still version 0.12.17.  I don't have backports enabled though.
[03:58] <Schuenemann> DisabledDuck, kcontrol > appearence and themes
[03:59] <HacksawSA> Is it possible to install full fledged kubuntu strictly in text mode?
[03:59] <reldruh> SilentDis: oh well, I suppose I'll live :-)
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> HacksawSA: it in the first screen when the cd boots
[03:59] <Schuenemann> appearance*
[03:59] <reldruh> HacksawSA: yes, use the alternate CD to do a text install. It's a pretty wonderful process
[03:59] <reldruh> HacksawSA: you can also install a command line system from the alternate cd
[03:59] <HacksawSA> The alternate has all the packages KDE and whatnot?
[04:00] <SilentDis> reldruh: well... due the the announcement of hitting 1.0 was only yesterday, give the repos a week or so to pick it up.  probably less :)
[04:00] <HacksawSA> I wasn't sure.
[04:00] <reldruh> HacksawSA: yep, all the same stuff. It's just not a liveCD
[04:00] <HacksawSA> Great, that'll be fine. Thanks.
[04:00] <DisabledDuck> *Sigh*
[04:01] <Linux_Galore> <-- running k3b 1.0 in edgy , I swapped over yesterday
[04:01] <SilentDis> DisabledDuck: do you mean 'disable usplash', the pretty picture you get as kubuntu boots?
[04:01] <reldruh> SilentDis: what about digikam? (See, I am a feature whore) That may have been out for a whole week :-) i just have to wait and when it gets in, it gets in?
[04:01] <DisabledDuck> SilentDis: the one where it just says "Kubuntu" and the line that shows that its loading
[04:01] <beta> hm, if the distro makers could just note when a handbook has last been updated it would be a great starting point
[04:01] <SilentDis> reldruh: or when it hits !backports :)
[04:02] <Linux_Galore> edgy wont be running k3b 1.0 because growisofs in >= 7.0
[04:02] <SilentDis> DisabledDuck: are you looking to 'see what's behind it', to get a log, or another reason? what's the end result you want to achieve through disabling usplash?
[04:02] <beta> oh wowie...debian actually does that
[04:02] <reldruh> SilentDis: what is backports? I don't have any experience with it. Is it a different repo? one that doesn't come in sources.list at all by default?
[04:02] <beta> 28. Januar 2007
[04:02] <SilentDis> !backports | reldruh
[04:02] <ubotu> reldruh: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> edgy uses growisfs 6.1  I had to update it to 7.0 manually
[04:03] <beta> Linux_Galore: are you part of the ubunut development team?
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> growisofs*
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> beta: nope
[04:03] <DisabledDuck> SilentDis: My laptop won't show it, all i get when it's supposed to be showing the "upsplash" is that my screen gets all staticy for about a minute then shows the logon screen
[04:03] <reldruh> Linux_Galore: am I supposed to understand that updated packages don't get updated in a default install?
[04:04] <Linux_Galore> reldruh: doubt it, because they have to also update growisofs
[04:04] <SilentDis> reldruh: ahhh.  sounds like it's having trouble switching to that vid mode.  It's been a while since I disabled mine, and I can't remember how I did it (and I can't figger out how to turn it back on, either lol)
[04:04] <SilentDis> !usplash | DisabledDuck
[04:04] <ubotu> DisabledDuck: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:04] <SilentDis> reldruh: sorry, comment was supposed to go to DisabledDuck
[04:05] <SilentDis> DisabledDuck: : ahhh.  sounds like it's having trouble switching to that vid mode.  It's been a while since I disabled mine, and I can't remember how I did it (and I can't figger out how to turn it back on, either lol)
[04:05] <DisabledDuck> SilentDis: is there any way to just have it show the processing that are loading?
[04:05] <beta> may i ask you more experienced guys the odd question why you settled for ubuntu instead of debian?
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> reldruh: its actually easy to compile in edgy (k3b 1.0) you just have to install a pile of dev packages from the repo and download and compile growisofs (its called  dvd-rw-tools on the web)
[04:06] <SilentDis> beta:  spit and polish mostly.  debian is great, but lacks the 'cohesion' that ubuntu offers.  at least, that's why i went ubuntu
[04:07] <DisabledDuck> SilentDis: ah, thanks
[04:07] <beta> SilentDis: cohesion in which sense? and what do you mean with spit and polish?
[04:08] <beta> sorry, quite poor english here unfortunetaly
[04:09] <Linux_Galore> beta: its an old military term,  soldiers used to spit on their boots then polish them to make it shinier/look better
[04:09] <SilentDis> beta: the idea behind ubuntu is everything "Just Works (TM)".  everything is easy to get to/use/available.  there's a bit more hunting to do with straight debian.
[04:10] <beta> SilentDis: so cohesion referring to the actual distro not to the community
[04:10] <beta> (had to look the term up not sure if i got it right ;)
[04:10] <kristjans> how do i get vmware working on feisty?
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> beta: Linux and the community are very much the same thing
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> !vmware
[04:11] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:11] <kristjans> thx
[04:11] <Darkkish> man all the chans are so busy today
[04:11] <SilentDis> kristjans: check out #kubuntu+1 for feisty questions... they've still got some issues going on, and it would be best to get 'em tracked down there :)
[04:11] <kristjans> :) thx
[04:12] <Linux_Galore> kristjans: basically if you have the package manager setup properly you just type  apt-get install vmware
[04:12] <Linux_Galore> sorry sudo apt-get install vmware
[04:13] <kristjans> yeh
[04:13] <SilentDis> beta: with the fast release cycle of ubuntu, you're better guarnteed to get stuff that 'just works' and is the latest version.  with debian, you're either running unstable and dealing with bugs, or running stable and quite a bit behind.
[04:13] <beta> SilentDis: i see
[04:13] <kristjans> hmm, i guess i don't have package manager set up
[04:13] <kristjans> do i need to uncomment feisty-backports?
[04:14] <skittles> how bout with the new 1 coming out, Fiesty, upgrade?
[04:14] <Linux_Galore> kristjans: read the howto I posted, it tells you what you need to add to the package manager
[04:14] <kristjans> oh, okay
[04:14] <kristjans> thx
[04:14] <beta> SilentDis: hm, with ubunut the handbook is very basic obviously (and for good reason) to dig further you have to crawl all over and pick the info together you need (wiki, online official ressource and so on..)
[04:15] <Linux_Galore> kristjans: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[04:15] <beta> silentdis: how would you judge debains handbook on this issue.....will it really cover almost everything or do you need a lot of online stuff?
[04:15] <SilentDis> beta: i usually recommend people just come here for help.  if anything, we'll point you in the right direction.  it might seem 'inefficent' at first, but it also helps to build community :)
[04:15] <kristjans> "Feisty 7.04 Users: Feisty 7.04 requires [WWW]  VMware Workstation 6 beta."
[04:15] <kristjans> workstation version seems to be not free
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> kristjans: you need to install vmware-player
[04:16] <SilentDis> beta: i haven't looked over debian's handbook personally.  though, a lot of what is said there will apply here.  I might have a look through at some point :)
[04:16] <kristjans> sudo apt-get install vmware-player ?:)
[04:17] <beta> silentdis: no this channel is great and i actually feel a bit ashamed for having hassled you for so long now...and not even on ubuntu sepcific stuff
[04:17] <SilentDis> beta: as I said, think nothing of it.  I woulda told you to fsck off a long time ago had you given me a hard time :)
[04:17] <beta> SilentDis: oh ok. thought you were really literate with it
[04:17] <beta> SilentDis: :) all right thx a lot
[04:18] <SilentDis> beta: that's the best way to learn, for both the questioner, and the questionee.  i've learned a LOT just looking up info for people hehe
[04:18] <skittles_> my dad and i want to install the new upgrade Fiesty, but thought we'd get some opions from others before we installed it....
[04:19] <beta> silentdis: hehe
[04:19] <SilentDis> skittles_: might be best to go bug folks in #kubuntu+1 for feisty impressions.  most of us are still running edgy here :)
[04:19] <skittles_> what is edgy?
[04:19] <kristjans> kubuntu+1 is empty though
[04:19] <kristjans> there's me and someone else
[04:19] <pollyo> skittles: Are they saying Feisty is going to be official next month?
[04:20] <SilentDis> kristjans: check out #ubuntu+1 then.  while more geared toward gnome, they'll still be able to help :)
[04:20] <SilentDis> !edgy | skittles_
[04:20] <ubotu> skittles_: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:20] <skittles_> i heard something bout a new upgrade coming in April
[04:20] <pollyo> skittles: I was planning on waiting to put it on my main machine after the official release.
[04:20] <beta> well i will take this as a broad hint and drown my anger in the manual again for some time ;)
[04:20] <pollyo> skittles: I have it on this machine here that I am using though.
[04:20] <skittles_> is there any way i can tell if i have the edgy installed and how?
[04:21] <SilentDis> skittles_: the general release schedule places it next month, April.  The releases are x.04 and x.10 usually (April and October).  Dapper (6.06) was an anomoly, due to it's Long-Term Support
[04:21] <Pupeno__> !version
[04:21] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[04:21] <Pupeno__> skittles_: what ubotu said.
[04:21] <skittles_> ok, tks <ubotu>
[04:21] <skittles_> brb
[04:22] <pablo7> adept just helped me do a lobotmy on my Dapper, anyone interested in providing some LTS?
[04:22] <SilentDis> pablo7: ask away.  if anything, we'll find something somewhere that'll help :)
[04:23] <pablo7> SilentDis:  went to uninstall/re-install cupsys because of error messages and it wasn't starting...
[04:23] <skittles_> have version 6.5
[04:24] <sadistic_kitten> hey peeps
[04:24] <sadistic_kitten> anyone want to help with a simple networking problem
[04:24] <SilentDis> skittles_: version 6.5 of what?
[04:24] <skittles_> IUb untu
[04:24] <pablo7> SilentDis:  next thing i know adept was uninstalling konqueror and everything else.
[04:24] <skittles_> ubuntu
[04:24] <SilentDis> !ask | sadistic_kitten
[04:24] <cosmo_> ok so I went into the system settings window and adjusted my moniter settings, then rebooted and now it will only boot into the command line, how do I fix it(being forced to talk in windows /cry)
[04:24] <ubotu> sadistic_kitten: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:24] <sadistic_kitten> both comps are kubunt, one is only cli
[04:25] <sadistic_kitten> cli comp is a laptop, and I pretty much just want to move files from the laptop to the desktop via a router
[04:25] <SilentDis> skittles_: never herd of such a thing.  run this command, it'll tell us the kernel version, and we can deduce from there:  uname -r
[04:25] <pablo7> SilentDis:  now I am left with a semi-working system, but things are missing like kmenu.
[04:25] <skittles_> uname -r
[04:25] <SilentDis> pablo7: aak.  I'd say possibly reinstalling kubuntu-desktop would be in order, to pick up all the missing bits
[04:26] <SilentDis> pablo7: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <bdb> I installed Kubuntu, i added MPlayer, to play some .mpg's, they play and I hear audio, but I get this error.... "Requested audio codec family [MP3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available Enable it at compilation". Any ideas of meaning and or a fix for it?
[04:26] <pablo7> SilentDis:  thanks, i will try that now.
[04:27] <skittles_> ok, <silent> this is waht it said when i run what you gave me in the room<2.6.15-28-386>
[04:27] <SilentDis> skittles_: you are running Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake)
[04:27] <sadistic_kitten> bdb try installing easyubuntu
[04:27] <skittles_> okay now we have that figured out aND TKS SO MUCH SILENT
[04:27] <sadistic_kitten> that worked for me
[04:27] <xavior2180> hi people :)
[04:28] <skittles_> dang cpas, sry
[04:28] <bdb> thanks Kitten, I will try
[04:28] <sadistic_kitten> kk
[04:28] <SilentDis> !upgrade | skittles_ - if you're looking to upgrade to edgy, this is the info you'll need
[04:28] <ubotu> skittles_ - if you're looking to upgrade to edgy, this is the info you'll need: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:29] <skittles_> tks Ubotu
[04:29] <SilentDis> skittles_: you have to go 1 distro hop at a time (6.06 > 6.10 > 7.04) as example
[04:29] <skittles_> is there any thing i can read on it before installing it?
[04:30] <SilentDis> !edgy
[04:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:30] <SilentDis> skittles_: check out that last link for release notes for Ubuntu 6.10, Edgy Eft
[04:30] <skittles_> tks so much, silent and ubotu
[04:31] <skittles_> i will leave so you can help other pplz and thanks again so much
[04:31] <SilentDis> skittles_: ubotu is the all-knowing, all-seeing, always-helpful bot that resides in the *ubuntu support channels.  while he does his best, he's still just a bot ;)
[04:33] <kristjans> any graphics application in kde that would be suitable for pixel art?
[04:33] <sadistic_kitten> kristjans: gimp?
[04:33] <kristjans> no kde apps for that?
[04:34] <sadistic_kitten> I dunno, gimp runs on kde and is pretty good
[04:34] <kristjans> i know that gimp is good:P
[04:34] <SilentDis> kristjans: the Gimp usually does a pretty good job at most graphics stuff.  not sure if it's particularly suited to doing pixel art, but it can do it.  Gimp is for X Windows, not for gnome/kde specifially
[04:34] <kristjans> okay
[04:34] <sadistic_kitten> yeah what SilentDis
[04:34] <sadistic_kitten> said
[04:34] <kristjans> time to get gimp installed
[04:35] <kristjans> again
[04:35] <kristjans> btw gimp is awesome for pixel art
[04:35] <sadistic_kitten> SilentDis: could you help me quickly now
[04:35] <SilentDis> kristjans: good to know, thanks :)
[04:35] <SilentDis> sadistic_kitten: ask away.  I must've missed your question, sorry :)
[04:35] <sadistic_kitten> that's k
[04:36] <sadistic_kitten> i basically want to move files from one comp to another via a router
[04:36] <SilentDis> sadistic_kitten: ask quickly though, i need to run out and buy ciggies VERY soon lol
[04:36] <savor> kristjans: you might want to look at krita
[04:36] <sadistic_kitten> both comps are kubuntu
[04:36] <sadistic_kitten> and one is only cli
[04:36] <xavior2180> sadistic_kitten: you could use sftp or ftp
[04:36] <kristjans> savor: i'll try it out
[04:36] <kristjans> thx
[04:37] <savor> np
[04:37] <sadistic_kitten> xavior2180: k how do I set that up
[04:37] <SilentDis> sadistic_kitten: so, both machines are on an internal network, same general IP space, right?  I'd say NFS is one way, another is a small-ish webserver
[04:37] <SilentDis> sadistic_kitten: or, you could go the samba route.  really up to you.  how often are you looking to perform the transfers?
[04:37] <sadistic_kitten> SilentDis: yes both comps connect via a netgear router
[04:37] <xavior2180> sadistic_kitten: you have openssh or anything installed?  it's easier to setup than ftp, IMO
[04:38] <sadistic_kitten> SilentDis: well after the files are transfered I'm wiping the machine...
[04:38] <SilentDis> sadistic_kitten: xavior2180 is also correct, an openssh transfer works as well :)
[04:38] <xavior2180> and yeah, if you transfer stuff often then nfs would be better
[04:38] <SilentDis> sadistic_kitten: ahh.  if you're just doing this 'one time', I'd say setup NFS
[04:39] <sadistic_kitten> SilentDis: ok how would I go about doing that?
[04:39] <SilentDis> sadistic_kitten: one moment, got a really nice howto on that...
[04:39] <sadistic_kitten> in the cli
[04:39] <SilentDis> sadistic_kitten: http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-ubuntu-linux-nfs-file-sharing
[04:39] <sadistic_kitten> SilentDis: cool, I shall check out
[04:40] <xavior2180> ssh/sftp is easier to set up than nfs, but nfs is easier to use after it's set up once
[04:40] <xavior2180> at least in my opinion
[04:40] <SilentDis> now, if you'll excuse me.... this existant anomoly of space-time needs to make a ciggie run.  be back later :)
[04:40] <kouran> is there a way to start the kubuntu installer without booting into the os when you load the disk? just that the comp im using is lean on ram..
[04:41] <kristjans> alterantive install?
[04:41] <kristjans> alternative*
[04:41] <sadistic_kitten> xavior2180: if it is easier to set up, could you tell me how
[04:41] <SilentDis> kouran: so long as it has 256mb or greater, you should be ok.  use the alternate CD, rather than the desktop CD though.
[04:41] <sadistic_kitten> and keep in mind I have no gui on one machine
[04:41] <ira> can some one help with feisty aptep updator errors?
[04:41] <xavior2180> sadistic_kitten: you don't need a gui to set up either
[04:41] <kouran> ah thanks.
[04:41] <xavior2180> they both run as a service on either machine
[04:41] <sadistic_kitten> xavior2180: ok so how would I go about doing it then?
[04:42] <SilentDis> kouran: if it's less than 256, go with Xubuntu.  I've got Xubuntu running great (from the alternate cd) on a P1 300Mhz laptop with all of 64mb ram :)
[04:42] <xavior2180> or deamon, rather
[04:42] <kouran> the alternate cd will give me a gui right?
[04:42] <cpk1> ncurses I think
[04:42] <Minataku> TUI
[04:42] <Minataku> Text User Interface
[04:42] <kristjans> alternate is like windows xp
[04:42] <kristjans> install
[04:42] <xavior2180> sadistic_kitten: if you want openssh, then just apt-get install openssh, or whatever the name of that package is
[04:42] <SilentDis> now, off with me.  be back later :)
[04:42] <kristjans> or was it 2000
[04:42] <kristjans> :P
[04:42] <Minataku> It's different from CLI in that you get a GUI made out of text
[04:43] <xavior2180> sadistic_kitten: and then start it.  then you can ssh/sftp to that machine
[04:43] <sadistic_kitten> ok cool
[04:43] <xavior2180> sadistic_kitten: sftp works just like ftp
[04:43] <Minataku> Anyone watching the Formula 1 race?
[04:43] <kouran> let me get this straight. alternate cd will be completely text based?
[04:43] <sadistic_kitten> xavior2180: I wouldn't know as I've never networked before
[04:43] <xavior2180> ah
[04:43] <Minataku> It's a bit early to say, but it looks like Kimi Raikkonen is gonna take it easy
[04:43] <ira> can  any one help with adept updater error? on feisty
[04:44] <xavior2180> sadistic_kitten: well ssh is pretty easy to set up.  you basically just install it and turn it on
[04:44] <sadistic_kitten> ok
[04:44] <ira> kouran it can be
[04:44] <kouran> so theres an option to change it to gui?
[04:45] <ira> up to you
[04:45] <chino> do you guys have logs ?
[04:45] <ira> sure
[04:45] <kouran> ira you're being rather vague..
[04:45] <ira> you can texc base or gui
[04:45] <Minataku> kouran: It'll be easy as GUI with the TUI
[04:46] <kouran> ok thanks
[04:46] <ira> so no one for the adept  updater help?
[04:47] <ira> damn!
[04:47] <ira> what the heck is an incorrect nice value?
[04:48] <kristjans> ira: i have the same exact error
[04:48] <ira> ah have you made any headway?
[04:49] <kristjans> i got the next button working i think
[04:49] <kristjans> sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[04:49] <maddog39> wat r u guys talking about
[04:49] <kristjans> i think i messed around with that
[04:49] <cosmo_> ok so I went into the system settings window and adjusted my moniter settings, then rebooted and now it will only boot into the command line, how do I fix it? I am running 6.10 edgy and have a nvidia 6600gt vid card
[04:50] <ira> maddog using the adept updater
[04:50] <maddog39> aah
[04:50] <sadistic_kitten> cosmo_: try sax2
[04:50] <cosmo_> sax2?
[04:50] <sadistic_kitten> as in in the cli type sax2
[04:50] <ira> getting a incorrectnice value
[04:50] <sadistic_kitten> I think that works
[04:50] <sadistic_kitten> but it's been a long time since I've done things like that
[04:50] <sadistic_kitten> and I was running Suse
[04:51] <ira> Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN47> line 17.
[04:51] <sadistic_kitten> but at lease try it
[04:51] <kristjans> i think i'm going to downgrade to 6.10
[04:51] <ira> is what is happening
[04:51] <cosmo_> ok I will try that
[04:51] <maddog39> im attempting LFS/BLFS
[04:51] <maddog39> :D
[04:51] <maddog39> not as hard as many ppl think
[04:52] <menisk> I have just setup my WiFi using ndiswrapper, but I have to go into the terminal and type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" to turn it on. Is there a way to make it do this at boot?
[04:52] <cecstation> adonoh
[04:52] <ira> insmod?
[04:53] <maddog39> menisik: go into K > Internet > Wireless Assistant
[04:53] <ira> kaj 	am trying to nexct past it
[04:54] <menisk> Ah, thanks maddog39.
[04:54] <maddog39> np
[04:54] <menisk> :D
[04:54] <maddog39> :D
[04:54] <menisk> I love this community.
[04:54] <maddog39> lol yup
[04:54] <maddog39> i did too
[04:54] <menisk> Bye.
[04:54] <menisk> :P
[04:54] <maddog39> bye
[04:55] <dystopianray> menisk: wireless assitant is pretty lame, try knetworkmanager if possible
[04:55] <ira> line 2521
[04:55] <Kite_DH> got a little question
[04:55] <maddog39> i was trying to rule out the package manager
[04:55] <maddog39> lol
[04:55] <Kite_DH> i saw a screenshot of a guy, he had IRC in his terminal
[04:55] <Kite_DH> how can i do that
[04:55] <sadistic_kitten> Kite_DH: irssi
[04:56] <dystopianray> Kite_DH: use a terminal irc client
[04:56] <sadistic_kitten> sudo apt-get install irssi
[04:56] <Kite_DH> oh
[04:56] <maddog39> lol
[04:56] <Kite_DH> thx
[04:56] <maddog39> has ne1 attempted LFS yet
[04:56] <Minataku> Ah... one of the best sounds on Earth... the screaming wail of a Formula 1 engine <3
[04:56] <maddog39> lol what??
[04:57] <ira> not I
[04:57] <dystopianray> maddog39: i've played with it, it takes too long though
[04:57] <maddog39> lol i aggree
[04:57] <maddog39> im trying it but making a bash script
[04:57] <maddog39> to redbuild the system
[04:57] <ira> I just want adept work
[04:57] <maddog39> if i want
[04:57] <ira> ing right
[04:58] <maddog39> adept never works right on 6.10
[04:58] <maddog39> is that wat ur using?
[04:58] <dystopianray> adept is lame
[04:58] <maddog39> yes
[04:58] <maddog39> it is
[04:58] <ira> Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN47> line 5433.
[04:58] <NightBird> uh... adept works fine on 6.10.... for me
[04:58] <ira> nope festgy
[04:59] <ira> 6.10 fine also
[04:59] <maddog39> adept crashes like a m* f*er on my computer
[04:59] <maddog39> all the time
[04:59] <maddog39> every time i do something
[04:59] <maddog39> i crashes
[04:59] <ira> dont do what ever you do!
[04:59] <scotty> Is there anyway to have Kubuntu lock my session whenever I close my laptop lid?
[04:59] <maddog39> lol
[04:59] <dystopianray> i wasn't even using adept and suddenly a crash dialog appear saying adept crashed!
[05:00] <maddog39> lol
[05:00] <maddog39> rofl
[05:00] <maddog39> see, kde blows
[05:00] <maddog39> i keep telling ppl
[05:00] <dystopianray> scotty: click on the power icon thing in the system tray, look at the bottom of the dialog
[05:00] <dystopianray> no way, kde is awesome, it's just adept that sucks
[05:00] <ira> Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN47> line 5433.
[05:00] <ira> arghg
[05:00] <scotty> dystopianray:
[05:00] <scotty> thanks
[05:00] <cosmo_> nope that didn't work, sax2 did nothing
[05:01] <maddog39> debconf is written in perl?
[05:01] <ira> isnt sax suse?
[05:02] <ira> who knows?
[05:02] <maddog39> suse is backed by "The Corporations"
[05:02] <maddog39> so i nvr used it
[05:02] <maddog39> and never will
[05:02] <maddog39> and therefore have no clue
[05:02] <maddog39> sry
[05:02] <Minataku> SuSE fails it nowadays
[05:03] <Minataku> It used to be top choice for new users
[05:03] <Minataku> Now it's just crap
[05:03] <maddog39> lol
[05:03] <maddog39> ubuntu is top choice for new users, aint it?
[05:03] <ira> it was awsum now it goes begging fcoir crack
[05:03] <iamsam9895> maddog39, yeah, but the kde desktop is the best.
[05:03] <bonbonthejon> !alsa
[05:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:04] <maddog39> rofl *chokes and vomits vigorously on iamsam9895*
[05:04] <NightBird> throw kubuntu on there... see how long I can go without switching to Windows...
[05:04] <ira> frankly 	would use frdora for a new user
[05:04] <iamsam9895> maddog39, ?
[05:04] <ira> then you dont run into the ati crap
[05:04] <maddog39> KDE blows
[05:04] <iamsam9895> HAH
[05:04] <maddog39> especially for mobile devices
[05:04] <iamsam9895> KDE YUM!
[05:04] <iamsam9895> Well, duh
[05:04] <xavior2180> lol
[05:04] <maddog39> now im not saying GNOME is any better
[05:04] <maddog39> but i like to stay neutral
[05:05] <dystopianray> gnome is stupider and more resource intensive than kde
[05:05] <maddog39> i dont use gnome
[05:05] <maddog39> lol
[05:05] <NightBird> I think ubuntu and fedora core are probably the big linux distros..
[05:05] <iamsam9895> GNOME IS TEH PUKE
[05:05] <maddog39> i dont use gnome
[05:05] <maddog39> or kde
[05:05] <maddog39> or fluxbox
[05:05] <iamsam9895> xfce?
[05:05] <maddog39> or xubuntu
[05:05] <iamsam9895> oh
[05:05] <delrey> Could someone help me with wireless issues please? I've got a wireless card to the point where ifconfig -a shows all the proper information about wlan0 and iwconfig wlan0 shows me that i'm 'connected' to the essid with the proper wep key
[05:05] <NightBird> maddog39 makes use of the basic x interface
[05:05] <maddog39> i use xfce
[05:05] <ira> festy is supposet to fix the ati krap
[05:05] <maddog39> but no xubuntu
[05:05] <dystopianray> i use twm
[05:05] <maddog39> not*
[05:05] <iamsam9895> xfce == xubuntu
[05:05] <maddog39> no
[05:05] <NightBird> no fancy user interfaces for him!
[05:05] <iamsam9895> lol
[05:05] <delrey> dhclient wlan0 gives me weird No DHCPOFFERS received issues
[05:06] <maddog39> i use a default custom compile of xfce on top of Ubuntu LTS
[05:06] <iamsam9895> oh
[05:06] <ira> maddog uses lynx!
[05:06] <maddog39> :D
[05:06] <NightBird> draw, drop, recise and the ability to spawn more consoles... what more do you need?
[05:06] <maddog39> rofl
[05:06] <iamsam9895> so, like, custom xubuntu
[05:06] <dystopianray> delrey: have you connected to the access point?
[05:06] <maddog39> yea
[05:06] <NightBird> draw.... drag..
[05:06] <maddog39> sort of
[05:06] <cosmo_> I went into the system setting->moniter's and display and tried to set it up for my system (I have a Gforce 6600GT and 2 CRT moniters hooked up) whern I restarted now the only thing it will do is come up with the command line interface, it will not boot into the GUI at all, anyone know how to fix this
[05:06] <NightBird> er... and resize, not recise..
[05:06] <iamsam9895> AUGH, LOTS OF TEXT
[05:06] <maddog39> im trying to switch to BLFS
[05:06] <ira> startx?
[05:06] <maddog39> using scritps
[05:06] <ira> see what happens
[05:06] <maddog39> im making along the way
[05:06] <iamsam9895> Heh.
[05:06] <maddog39> as i build my initial system
[05:06] <iamsam9895> I love my kde
[05:07] <delrey> dystopianray: okay, so ndiswrapper module made. sudo modprobe ndiswrapper && iwconfig wlan0 essid MYESSID && iwconfig wlan0 enc MYWEPKEY && dhclient wlan0
[05:07] <maddog39> because i require special kernel options
[05:07] <iamsam9895> But I have bothe kde and gnome apps
[05:07] <delrey> dystopianray: it gets up to the last stage and then fails
[05:07] <maddog39> to run
[05:07] <NightBird> yeah, well I'm switching to RSUG..
[05:07] <dystopianray> delrey: do you have dhcp on the network?
[05:07] <ira> cosmo startx
[05:07] <delrey> dystopianray: yes
[05:07] <dystopianray> delrey: maybe try one of the gui wireless apps
[05:07] <ira> I amswitching to Vista ducking
[05:08] <iamsam9895> What is the easiest way to play an avi on kubuntu?
[05:08] <maddog39> ira: nooooooooooooooooooo, dont doo it!!!
[05:08] <iamsam9895> Wait, I might have it
[05:08] <cosmo_> tried that is gave me 2 errors (EE) failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so and (EE) failed to load module "GLcore"(loader failed, 7)
[05:08] <iamsam9895> BTW, wine hates me.
[05:08] <maddog39> lol
[05:08] <maddog39> i got HL2/CSS/HL2DM working in Wine
[05:08] <maddog39> :D
[05:08] <ira> re install the nvidia drivers?
[05:08] <delrey> dystopianray: well seeing as though the gui tools are basically wrappers for the underlying tools i'm using, i don't see the point, but i tried that as well using the Internet -> Wireless Assistant
[05:09] <iamsam9895> So, how do I watch an avi.
[05:09] <iamsam9895> I just need a simple player
[05:09] <ira> oh avi use thatg automatux2
[05:09] <delrey> Man, I hate the #ubuntu channel with a great passion.
[05:09] <iamsam9895> Hopefully an apt-get thing.
[05:09] <iamsam9895> delrey, yeah
[05:09] <cosmo_> how do I reinstall the drivers when I can't get into the GUI
[05:09] <iamsam9895> delrey, They all suck at advice.
[05:09] <delrey> iamsam9895: mplayer works for me
[05:09] <delrey> iamsam9895: You could use vlc as well I suppose
[05:09] <dystopianray> delrey: like kwirelessassitant or knetworkmanager
[05:09] <ira> google nvidia on kubuntu
[05:10] <delrey> dystopianray: Yeah, I'm probably using that
[05:10] <iamsam9895> My built in mplayer refuses to play it.
[05:10] <delrey> dystopianray: Those fail as well, at least with command line tools, it's easy to pipe output around
[05:10] <iamsam9895> Aww, automatux2 isn't in the repositories.
[05:10] <delrey> dystopianray: But anyway, dhclient seems to be the issue. how would i configure it?
[05:10] <ira> i liek automatux plays dvds
[05:10] <ira> nope you need to get it with another program
[05:10] <delrey> dystopianray: i'm running the exact same commands i run on gentoo to get it to work on ubuntu
[05:10] <iamsam9895> BUT MPLAYER IS
[05:11] <delrey> the only think that is different is that i use dhcpcd instead of dhclient
[05:11] <iamsam9895> Well, I'm going back to windows anyways.
[05:11] <ira> google automatux on unbuntu
[05:11] <iamsam9895> *kick me*
[05:11] <iamsam9895> not from the chan
[05:12] <maddog39> lool
[05:12] <maddog39> wooaaahh
[05:12] <iamsam9895> I need to be able to play halo.
[05:12] <maddog39> nikkiana
[05:12] <iamsam9895> Therefore i require windows.
[05:12] <maddog39> your from NH?
[05:12] <delrey> Could someone please help me out?
[05:12] <maddog39> nikiana has the same last 4 parts of my hostname
[05:12] <maddog39> thats freaky
[05:13] <delrey> I've tried this for a couple of months already and it must be really trivial because the same commands work on a gentoo setup minus the dhclient part which is replaced by dhcpcd
[05:13] <delrey> it doesn't work and i really appreciate help because i can't get a kubuntu convert otherwise :(
[05:14] <ira> http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=38
[05:14] <ira> super easy to install
[05:15] <iamsam9895> MY GOD, NOTHING WANTS TO PLAY THIS AVI
[05:15] <ira> http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=38#Ubuntu_6.10_.28Edgy_386.29
[05:15] <ira> iamsam read the line above this
[05:16] <ira> and use the link
[05:16] <maddog39> iamsam: download VLC palyer
[05:16] <iamsam9895> Doing that now
[05:16] <delrey> I guess I actually have to go to the Debian channel because even this channel is coming up short
[05:16] <maddog39> lol
[05:16] <ira> automatix is better
[05:16] <ira> :-P
[05:16] <iamsam9895> Vlc has always been my favorite
[05:17] <iamsam9895> And I can apt-get vlc
[05:17] <iamsam9895> So bleh
[05:17] <ira> you have the wrong favorite
[05:17] <ira> lol
[05:17] <iamsam9895> But i can't apt-get  echo "deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt edgy main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <iamsam9895> err
[05:17] <iamsam9895> BAH
[05:17] <iamsam9895> So maybe I can.
[05:17] <ira> why not?
[05:17] <mervteck> #winehq
[05:17] <iamsam9895> But vlc is almost done
[05:17] <iamsam9895> What about winehq?
[05:17] <iamsam9895> I've been there lots.
[05:18] <iamsam9895> AUGH!!!!
[05:18] <iamsam9895> VLC FAILED ME!
[05:18] <iamsam9895> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
[05:18] <Daisuke_Ido> automatix messes things up and is NOT supported
[05:18] <ira> iasam why not?
[05:18] <ira> works for me
[05:18] <Daisuke_Ido> using it is *stupid*
[05:18] <Daisuke_Ido> now good night, gentlemen
[05:18] <ira> plays dve and the stupid windows stuff
[05:19] <delrey> I've heard not to recommend automatix a lot as well
[05:19] <iamsam9895> like my fucked up avi?
[05:19] <maddog39> khtml has a really crappy renderer
[05:19] <ira> yeah
[05:19] <maddog39> all the text is off on ubuntuforums
[05:19] <maddog39> gtkhtml
[05:19] <ira> iamsam try porno convert?
[05:19] <maddog39> is way better
[05:19] <iamsam9895> What?
[05:19] <iamsam9895> ira, What?
[05:20] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to update the sources on a friends computer.  All the source work except universe.  It comes up with an error about gzip or something similar.  What can I do to fix it?
[05:20] <iamsam9895> I'm not fucking converting one vid.
[05:20] <dx11101> i have a question about dvd::rip
[05:20] <iamsam9895> This is just and instruction vid for a windows custom combined install cd
[05:20] <dx11101> which repository is it in?
[05:20] <ira> hey if itg fu*king ....
[05:20] <iamsam9895> an*
[05:21] <iamsam9895> I'm installing windows again.
[05:21] <Elvis_Presley> !es
[05:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:21] <iamsam9895> I love linux very much, but I need my games.
[05:21] <delrey> iamsam9895: Quit trolling about it then
[05:21] <ira> ok I am getting no where on adapt
[05:21] <r1nux> all my games work lovely in wine
[05:22] <r1nux> havn't failed me yet
[05:22] <iamsam9895> delrey, I'm just telling him why I need the video, he obviously thinks its porno
[05:22] <dx11101> if the game is worth playing it works in linux somehow
[05:22] <iamsam9895> r1nux, tried halo?
[05:22] <r1nux> No, wouldnt even try it on windows
[05:22] <iamsam9895> HA
[05:22] <iamsam9895> You're missing out.
[05:22] <delrey> Why would dhclient wlan0 produce No DHCPOFFERS received even when iwconfig wlan0 shows that it is connected to the AP
[05:22] <r1nux> And I did say my games. ;)
[05:22] <kouran> how do i use gui install on the alternate cd?
[05:23] <dx11101> the more windows games you buy the richers bill gates gets
[05:23] <iamsam9895> Who said I buy them?
[05:23] <iamsam9895> O_o
[05:23] <iamsam9895> Nobody saw that.
[05:23] <kouran> how do i use gui install on the alternate cd?
[05:23] <dx11101> without valid cd-keys your not playing any games
[05:24] <iamsam9895> Uhh.
[05:24] <iamsam9895> Really now.
[05:24] <dx11101> really now
[05:24] <iamsam9895> Halo will take a key of 00000-00000-000....
[05:24] <iamsam9895> Then with an online product id, you can play online
[05:24] <dx11101> ohh wow i can download a cd key generator and get 200 viruses to play single player
[05:24] <iamsam9895> just a little registy edit.
[05:24] <kouran> i dont think this is a channel to discuss PIRATED GAMES
[05:24] <ira> iasam i did the first echo no problem
[05:25] <iamsam9895> We are just talking about hte what-if, kouran
[05:25] <kouran> lol
[05:25] <kouran> im no saint either, hehe
[05:25] <delrey> Why would dhclient wlan0 produce No DHCPOFFERS received even when iwconfig wlan0 shows that it is connected to the AP
[05:26] <beta> what could be the reason why unclutter and cascading doenst do anything at all?
[05:26] <beta> (middle click on desktop in kde)
[05:26] <iamsam9895> Ok, I'm trying your qutomatic2
[05:26] <ira> it unpluged?
[05:26] <dx11101> anyone here see dvd::rip in adept?
[05:26] <iamsam9895> -q +a
[05:27] <jhutchins> delrey: AP isn't forwarding?  DHCP server fubar?
[05:27] <ira> running setup here onold laptop iamsam
[05:27] <jhutchins> delrey: DHCP client timed out prior to PA associating?
[05:28] <ari> i installed beryl a few days ago and i found out that my mouse (that used to be to the left of my screen) couldn't work out some of beryl's functions that needed clicking (like changing desktops with ctrl+alt+mouse). is there a way to fix that and have my left-handed mouse again ?
[05:28] <iamsam9895> What the hell, how many things does automatic do?
[05:29] <jhutchins> !automatix
[05:29] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:30] <dx11101> !dvd::rip
[05:30] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[05:30] <iamsam9895> dx11101, automatix2 has a couple of dvd rippers.
[05:30] <ira> wellworks for me
[05:30] <delrey> jhutchins: Ah, finally someone I've seen given good advice to before :)
[05:30] <iamsam9895> Oh damn.
[05:30] <dx11101> can someone tell me the link to the multiverse repository please?/
[05:30] <delrey> jhutchins: Well, the DHCP server is fine, because the rest of the network works.
[05:30] <iamsam9895> Thanks alot, ira
[05:31] <iamsam9895> Break my linux install.
[05:31] <iamsam9895> How aobut not.
[05:31] <binks_> dx11101: just enble it in adept
[05:31] <ira> wellit didnt break mine
[05:31] <iamsam9895> No more automatix for me.
[05:31] <ira> but you mentioned the word windoes didnt you
[05:31] <dx11101> adept has universe but not multiverse
[05:31] <jhutchins> delrey: Try assigning an IP manually and seeing if you can ping.  You may not have WEP or whatever fully negotiated; or you may just need to re-start the Wireless card.
[05:31] <iamsam9895> I think adept does have multiverse.
[05:32] <kouran> um in the text based kubuntu installer, it asks for a WEP key. i use WPA. is there an option for WPA?
[05:32] <binks_> ok sudo kate /etc/apt/ources.list and un comment the multiverse lines
[05:32] <dx11101> i dont see it in my sources.list
[05:32] <iamsam9895> binks_, did you forget a s?
[05:32] <dx11101> could you tell me the link?
[05:32] <binks_> iamsam9895:
[05:32] <binks_> yes
[05:32] <jhutchins> !easysources
[05:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:32] <binks_> dam keyboard
[05:32] <kouran> um in the text based kubuntu installer, it asks for a WEP key. i use WPA. is there an option for WPA?
[05:32] <jhutchins> G'Night folks
[05:33] <binks_> jnight
[05:33] <delrey> jhutchins: Hold on, please
[05:33] <Minataku> !!! K Raikkonen / F Alonso / L Hamilton / N Heidfeld / G Fisichella / F Massa / N Rosberg / R Schumacher << FINAL RESULTS - TOP 8 - 2007 FORMULA 1 AUSTRALIA GP [ ROUND ONE ] 
[05:33] <delrey> jhutchins: I have to get my dinner, and I'll be right back, I really need help
[05:33] <iamsam9895> Anybody know how much a Windows NT 3.51 CD costs?
[05:34] <NightBird> iamsam9895: that came on a cd?
[05:34] <kouran> minataku, im from melbourne, i know already lol.
[05:34] <Minataku> lol
[05:34] <Minataku> Well, I'm from the USA, so there was a slight delay
[05:34] <kouran> hehe
[05:34] <iamsam9895> NightBird, I do believe it did.  I need it to use my XP upgrade.
[05:34] <kouran> i was gonna go this year... but no money!
[05:34] <Minataku> That and I'm rusty on names and had to look them up to make sure I got them right XD
[05:34] <kouran> haha
[05:34] <delrey> jhutchins: Sorry buddy, I really help, so here goes
[05:34] <NightBird> iamsam9895, do you not have any other windows install cd?
[05:34] <kouran> um in the text based kubuntu installer, it asks for a WEP key. i use WPA. is there an option for WPA?
[05:34] <iamsam9895> Nope
[05:34] <iamsam9895> NightBird: I had one.
[05:35] <iamsam9895> But a friend took it.
[05:35] <NightBird> iamsam9895: sad day
[05:35] <delrey> jhutchins: I got a Linksys PCI WMP11v4 wifi card and it seems to have the proper ndiswrapper module made for it
[05:35] <NightBird> iamsam9895: you should kick him till he returns it
[05:35] <iamsam9895> NightBird: hE MOVED AWAY WITH IT
[05:35] <delrey> jhutchins: When I try all the standard wifi tests, like 'can i detect other networks?' etc. they all work
[05:35] <iamsam9895> Damn caps
[05:35] <dx11101> ohhh i see whats up
[05:35] <NightBird> iamsam9895: kick him anyways
[05:35] <NightBird> :P
[05:35] <delrey> jhutchins: But dhclient wlan0 doesn't work for whatever reason. this machine is on the same network as other machines that already work, so it's not a server side problem
[05:36] <NightBird> besides, you have access to the internet, right? >_>
[05:36] <NightBird> <_<
[05:36] <NightBird> use froogle.com
[05:36] <NightBird> find out there
[05:36] <kouran> can anyone answer my question?
[05:36] <iamsam9895> NightBird: I tried _obtaining_ one from certain sources *cought*torrent*cough*.  But all too slow.
[05:36] <kouran> about wpa instead of wep in this text installer...
[05:36] <delrey> Can anyone answer _my_ question? :)
[05:36] <NightBird> iamsam9895: well, I would never suggest doing it in an illegal manor...
[05:36] <delrey> Ideally WPA2, but some routers can't handle that
[05:36] <iamsam9895> Of course not.
[05:37] <iamsam9895> But what is the worth of NT 3.51?  12 cents?
[05:37] <iamsam9895> The cost of theCD
[05:37] <delrey> iamsam9895: Ask in ##windows
[05:37] <iamsam9895> ?
[05:37] <NightBird> acoording to froogle... $56.11
[05:37] <iamsam9895> Thanks
[05:37] <NightBird> ... or $9.99 from ebay
[05:37] <NightBird> apparently
[05:39] <iamsam9895> 56.11?
[05:39] <delrey> This makes no sense why the machine can't get hooked up to the network via wifi.
[05:39] <iamsam9895> cents?
[05:39] <dx11101> okay i figured it out
[05:39] <NightBird> iamsam9895, no, there was a '$' infront of that
[05:39] <dx11101> thanks for the help!
[05:39] <iamsam9895> NightBird: Must be a typo
[05:39] <NightBird> that indicates dollars
[05:39] <iamsam9895> lol
[05:39] <NightBird> no....
[05:39] <dx11101> iamsam thx 4 teh helpz
[05:39] <NightBird> though, $10 from ebay
[05:39] <iamsam9895> Still.
[05:39] <iamsam9895> I think I'll head over to my schools computer lab and ask them.
[05:40] <iamsam9895> OR
[05:40] <NightBird> iamsam9895: I saw a copy of windows 3.1 at my schools book store one time for $300
[05:40] <iamsam9895> Oh, I'll just ghost windows off of my other computer.
[05:40] <NightBird> (yeah...)
[05:40] <iamsam9895> I forgot about that.
[05:40] <NightBird> cool
[05:40] <dx11101> windows sucked and still sucks
[05:40] <iamsam9895> But I need my games, man.
[05:41] <iamsam9895> America's army is free, and a good game.
[05:41] <iamsam9895> I'm going for a dual boot.
[05:41] <NightBird> dx11101: yes, but until wine is farther along, it may be a nessesary evil for some people
[05:41] <NightBird> iamsam9895: have you tried America's army using wine?
[05:42] <iamsam9895> NightBird: yes
[05:42] <iamsam9895> NightBird: To no avail.
[05:42] <iamsam9895> NightBird: I get it installed and everything, but it doesn't run.
[05:42] <NightBird> ...hm.... 20gb mp3 player(also supports ogg vorbis and flac, along with several other formats) for $150
[05:42] <dx11101> nobody understands!
[05:42] <NightBird> iamsam9895: have you tried with 0.9.33?
[05:42] <dx11101> YOU DONT WANT WINE TO CONTINUE FARTHER ALONG
[05:42] <iamsam9895> Using that now, Nightbird
[05:43] <NightBird> because there was alot of bug fixes to dx
[05:43] <enzo_> I upgraded my hard drive from 250GB to 500GB. I have hda1 as WinXP, hda5 as SWAP and hda6 as Ext3 (Kubuntu Edgy)
[05:43] <dx11101> you want developers to code opengl not craptastic direct x
[05:43] <enzo_> I can boot into WinXP, but not Kubuntu
[05:43] <sadistic_kitten> what command would I use to find out the size of a dir
[05:43] <dx11101> wine and cedega is only a bandaid
[05:43] <sadistic_kitten> or a file
[05:43] <hackdaddy> join #ruby
[05:43] <NightBird> dx11101: until microsoft runs itself into the ground and out of the OS buisness, wine will have a place
[05:43] <dx11101> yes
[05:44] <dx11101> i agree
[05:44] <NightBird> besides, there is still the legacy apps
[05:44] <dx11101> but its not the longterm solution
[05:45] <hackdaddy> what's the best source editor for Kubuntu?
[05:45] <dx11101> windows vista is the beginning of the end for microsoft
[05:45] <sadistic_kitten> anyone want to help me?
[05:45] <iamsam9895> With?
[05:45] <iamsam9895> oh
[05:45] <sadistic_kitten> what command would I use to find the size of a dir
[05:45] <hackdaddy> dx, how do you see the end of ms??
[05:45] <NightBird> hackdaddy: uh... for what programming language? c? dunno... kdevelop is a popular ide for kde programs...
[05:46] <iamsam9895> Why not rightclick --> properties?
[05:46] <sadistic_kitten> iamsam9895: in the cli
[05:46] <iamsam9895> hmm.
[05:46] <NightBird> hackdaddy: dx11101 is a little anti-microsoft... haven't you noticed?
[05:46] <hackdaddy> ruby, nightbird
[05:46] <NightBird> hackdaddy: well... kdevelop has support for ruby, but you may want to ask in #ruby...
[05:46] <hackdaddy> i like scite on XP when I have to use windows
[05:46] <hackdaddy> thanks
[05:47] <NightBird> hackdaddy: well... scite is avaiable on linux I believe..
[05:47] <dx11101> microsoft is already beginning to lose ground to linux in many sectors including the workstation
[05:47] <NightBird> yes, scite should be available on linux
[05:47] <NightBird> so you can install that
[05:47] <NightBird> if you want to keep on using it
[05:47] <hackdaddy> dx11101, look up "Strategy Tax" in google
[05:48] <hackdaddy> you'll find some interesting info on ms, etc, dx11101
[05:48] <enzo_> When I did a ghose image of my Kubuntu partition, it grew by about 4GB
[05:48] <enzo_> any clues?
[05:48] <NightBird> ...
[05:49] <NightBird> enzo_: we need more than 6 seconds to explain that kind of stuff..
[05:49] <sadistic_kitten> lol
[05:49] <hackdaddy> why should i run Kubuntu vs other linux flavors?  and does it support beryl?  and why do i need beryl?
[05:50] <NightBird> hackdaddy: you can install beryl on kubuntu(in fact, I have it running on my laptop right now)
[05:50] <NightBird> enzo_: we need more than 6 seconds to explain that kind of stuff..
[05:50] <enzo_> Sorry, video card issue
[05:51] <NightBird> and you don't really need beryl, it's just nice to play with the eye candy
[05:51] <enzo_> NightBird: So, you were saying
[05:51] <NightBird> enzo_: how big is the partition
[05:51] <NightBird> because, if it's 4gb, the image of that partition would be... 4gb
[05:51] <enzo_> which partition, there are 3
[05:51] <dx11101> take my advice, the 3d gui's are more trouble then they are worth
[05:51] <NightBird> the one you are taking the image of
[05:51] <dx11101> for mere eye candy
[05:51] <NightBird> dx11101: yes, but they are fun to play with
[05:51] <dx11101> yes
[05:52] <dx11101> i have only messed with xgl and compiz
[05:52] <enzo_> NightBird: well, the original is about 118GB, but now it is 360GB, roughly
[05:52] <dx11101> a little more development and it will be ready
[05:52] <delrey> Can someone please help me?
[05:52] <hackdaddy> i don't see kdevelop in adept?  where is it?
[05:52] <delrey> I've searched for this bugger of a problem for a while now to no avail.
[05:52] <NightBird> enzo_: hm.... well, it compresses the space and the data... but it would seem odd that it's only 4gb..
[05:53] <NightBird> hackdaddy: if you have used SciTE in the past, just download it and use that instead
[05:53] <enzo_> NightBird: It went from 18GB used to 22GB used on the ghost'd image
[05:53] <NightBird> oh, so you gained 4gb?
[05:53] <NightBird> uh... maybe information on physical aspects? *shrugs*
[05:53] <fami> !kaffeine
[05:53] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2160 kB, installed size 5868 kB
[05:54] <NightBird> mmmcaffeine...
[05:54] <NightBird> thats right... I'm going to get a mocha tomorrow...
[05:54] <fami> NightBird: wait
[05:54] <enzo_> NightBird: I wish I knew
[05:54] <NightBird> fami: wait on what?
[05:54] <beta> quick question will amarok change my filenames or structure when i build a collection?
[05:55] <fami> NightBird: need it to play non-free media format
[05:55] <NightBird> fami: then you would need to install some non-free media format decoders
[05:55] <savor> beta: no
[05:56] <beta> thx
[05:56] <fami> NightBird: which for kaffeine? w32...  ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[05:56] <NightBird> !mp3
[05:56] <beta> had a horrible experience once with itunes changing my whole filenames
[05:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:56] <beta> ;)
[05:56] <enzo_> fami: w32codecs
[05:56] <enzo_> NightBird: What do you suggest I do?
[05:56] <dx11101> man linux is sooo awesome
[05:57] <NightBird> since vlc also includes it's own decoders that handles practically every format known to man...
[05:57] <fami> NightBird: vlc needs w32 too?
[05:57] <NightBird> fami, it implements it's own decoders
[05:57] <savor> beta: you should be safe with Amarok.  I'm running 1.4.3 and have ran previous version and my filenames and directory structure all remained intact.
[05:57] <NightBird> I believe it handles most w32 formats...
[05:57] <kristjans> 30 more secs then i have 6.10 kubuntu downloaded, then i install it, and then i get vmware and then i can play games too and my friends won't be scared of linux any more:P
[05:57] <dx11101> install libdvdcss2 before you install vlc
[05:57] <fami> NightBird: oh, is it in repos too? (not in unver.. or multi... repos pls)
[05:57] <NightBird> but!  vlc is likely to be illegal in most places if you don't have permission for those codecs to be installed..
[05:57] <beta> since this the topic right now: would anyone know how to get monkey audio playing?
[05:58] <NightBird> beta: install monkey audio codecs? >_>;
[05:58] <fami> NightBird: with kaffeine, i can to watch but can't hear mpg, avi
[05:59] <NightBird> dx11101: does vlc not auto handle dvd's like that?
[05:59] <NightBird> fami: then... find out what audio format they are using, and install those
[05:59] <SilentDis> hi hi :)
[05:59] <beta> nighbird: yeah its not available via a repos unfortunately it seems...i compiled the source without any errors and checkinstalled
[05:59] <NightBird> that will probably fix that up
[05:59] <dx11101> vlc cannot play commercial dvd's out of the box without libdvdcss2
[05:59] <beta> but it isnet working
[05:59] <dx11101> i think..........
[05:59] <Skuller> dx11101: no...you will ned the libdvd thingy to play commercial dvds
[05:59] <hackdaddy> yeah, scintilla is building
[05:59] <NightBird> beta: it might be in multiverse..
[06:00] <beta> i was really surprised since its free...lossless and all
[06:00] <dx11101> you have to add repos to get libdvdcss because its illegal to play dvd's in linux
[06:00] <SilentDis> dx11101: you are correct.  libdvdcss2 is needed by pretty much every DVD player in linux i've run across.
[06:00] <sadistic_kitten> anyone want to help me?
[06:00] <fami> enzo_: this is enough for kaffeine, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs ?
[06:00] <sadistic_kitten> what command would I use to find the size of a dir
[06:00] <beta> maybe im just to dull to come up with the right search term (apt-cache) ;)
[06:01] <NightBird> dx11101: it's not that it's illegal to play dvd's in linux... it's that libdvdcss2 did not pay the people to redistribute the code
[06:01] <enzo_> NightBird: What do you suggest I do about the partition?
[06:01] <NightBird> enzo_: I have no idea
[06:01] <NightBird> is the extra 4 gb a problem?
[06:01] <fami> NightBird: .mpg .avi .dat is non-free format?
[06:01] <NightBird> it might disappear when you apply it to a machine
[06:01] <dx11101> the whole proprietary format game is moot to me, it works anyways so who gives a ****
[06:02] <NightBird> fami: no, but the audio codec they use might be..
[06:02] <enzo_> NightBird: I can't boot into Kubuntu, so I'm saying that it MIGHT be the problem, it might now
[06:02] <enzo_> s/now/not
[06:02] <hackdaddy> what's a good way to intercept the cmd line from the Konsole?
[06:02] <NightBird> .avi, .mpg, .dat, .ogg are just wrappers around different streams of data in various forms of compression..
[06:02] <NightBird> a .avi might have the audio stream in a .mp3 format
[06:03] <NightBird> or as a vorbis, or wav, or one of many other possibilities
[06:03] <fami> oh a wrapper
[06:03] <dx11101> flac/vorbis > ALL
[06:03] <beta> hackdaddy:  you mean stop a running bash command you entered?
[06:03] <dx11101> mp3's can go to hell
[06:03] <Skuller> wheres the OP of this channel?
[06:03] <SilentDis> sadistic_kitten: du will help you find the size of a directory.  some basic info is available here: http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/22.html
[06:03] <kristjans> dx: true that :)
[06:03] <NightBird> dx11101: should I get this mp3 player that also supports flac and ogg?  it's $150... 20gb...
[06:04] <hackdaddy> no, get the entries as i type them
[06:04] <dx11101> i think all the jetaudio players support flac
[06:04] <NightBird> (it's a rio karma)
[06:04] <beta> no idea sry
[06:04] <kristjans> i won't be saying anything bad about mp3, it's just getting old
[06:04] <sadistic_kitten> ok cool
[06:04] <mrbigdownlow> hello
[06:04] <fami> ah nice
[06:04] <NightBird> hi mrbigdownlow
[06:05] <mrbigdownlow> how can i change the way i click on everything so its double click not single... i went into mouse and it didnt work for all files
[06:05] <dx11101> whatever you do dont buy and ipod or a zune whatever its called
[06:05] <fami> NightBird: need remove kaffeine before get vlc into?
[06:05] <kristjans> what's wrong with ipod and zune?
[06:05] <NightBird> fami, nah
[06:05] <dx11101> no flac
[06:06] <enzo_> I don't even know what to look for anymore
[06:06] <kristjans> oh
[06:06] <kristjans> okay
[06:06] <kristjans> never had it
[06:06] <kristjans> :P
[06:06] <dx11101> microsoft and apple are anti flac
[06:06] <dx11101> anti vorbis
[06:06] <NightBird> dx11101: sure there is... with the firmware fix...
[06:06] <kristjans> okay, now i know that if i am ever going to get a mp3 player, i am not going to get these
[06:06] <dx11101> warranty void?
[06:06] <mrbigdownlow> i know when i first installed ubuntu then over top all i had to do is go though a wissard but in the version off the cd it doesnt give me a wissard is there a manual way to bring it up
[06:06] <NightBird> dx11101: meh
[06:06] <kristjans> what about ipod + linux?
[06:06] <kristjans> i mean you can install linux on ipod
[06:07] <dx11101> howabout buying something you dont have to reverse engineer to do something simple?
[06:07] <delrey> How can I get a WMP11v4 (pciid: 17fe:2120) to work with a 2WIRE 1000HW on Kubuntu 6.10?
[06:07] <hackdaddy> thanks, dx11101 and nightbird, i got scite built and installed
[06:07] <kristjans> i won't be reverse engineering, i'll be just following a tutorial
[06:07] <dx11101> :D
[06:07] <SilentDis> mrbigdownlow: i assume you mean to choose between single/dbl click, right?  give me a moment, let me find that package...
[06:07] <mrbigdownlow> ok
[06:08] <gdiebel> mrbigdownlow: try going to peripherals/mouse in kcontrol
[06:08] <dx11101> my main issue with proprietary lossless is that you dont have access to the source
[06:08] <enzo_> kristjans: I'm curious about that too, iPod + Linux. I just bought my fiance an iPod and wondered about using it with Kubuntu. She uses WinXP, which is fine, but I use Kubuntu Edgy.
[06:08] <enzo_> Question for all...
[06:08] <mrbigdownlow> gdiebel: hum wheres kcontrol?
[06:08] <dx11101> so in the future if support dissappears it turns into vaporware and you have no support for you archvices
[06:09] <mrbigdownlow> gdiebel: i just installed fresh
[06:09] <enzo_> I have WinXP on HDA1, SWAP on HDA5 and KUBUNTU Edgy Ext3 on HDA6.
[06:09] <kristjans> http://ipodlinuxinstl.sourceforge.net/
[06:09] <Hobbsee> mrbigdownlow: use system settings
[06:09] <enzo_> I can't boot into Kubuntu
[06:09] <enzo_> I can get into WinXP, but not Kubuntu
[06:09] <enzo_> GRUB menu freezes when "loading"
[06:09] <savor> mrbigdownlow: iirc, you need to install it with apt
[06:09] <mrbigdownlow> Hobbsee: i did that
[06:10] <eduard> hello guys, who might know how use wireless card Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) on HP Pavilionzd8185ea laptop? please
[06:10] <kristjans> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page
[06:10] <SilentDis> mrbigdownlow: just alt-f2 and type in kcontrol.  can't remember where it puts it in the menu myself either lol
[06:10] <kristjans> restart now
[06:10] <enzo_> I ghost'd an image from my old HDD and gained 4GB on the new image
[06:10] <gdiebel> mrbigdownlow: you can probably find the settings in system settings as well
[06:10] <pollyo> I read that iTunes can run under wine.  I am not sure of the functions that work though...
[06:10] <mike__> i <3 that in linux, you can install an OS without having to reformat
[06:10] <pollyo> Doesn't an iPod connect to the iTunes software?
[06:10] <mrbigdownlow> gdiebel: i did that already and it didnt work
[06:11] <mrbigdownlow> gdiebel: it works for everyhitn in the desktop but not the taskbar
[06:11] <Hobbsee> !wireless | eduard
[06:11] <ubotu> eduard: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:11] <eduard> i am going there
[06:11] <eduard> ths for now ;)
[06:12] <gdiebel> mrbigdownlow: the taskbar is single click. they are buttons
[06:12] <mrbigdownlow> gdiebel: so i cant change the taskbar icons on the right say the update icon and sound?
[06:13] <beta> how can i exclude subfolders when building a collection in amarok
[06:13] <lotusleaf> beta, #amarok
[06:13] <beta> (though scanning recursively)
[06:13] <dx11101> !envy
[06:13] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[06:14] <SilentDis> beta: check the folder you want, then expand it, and uncheck the others, i believe.  otherwise, you might have to select all the directories individually.  it's been a while since I needed to do something like that :P
[06:14] <mrbigdownlow> gdiebel: finnal question then what is the command to update kubuntu to 6.10
 what did you wany to say?
[06:14] <SilentDis> !upgrade | mrbigdownlow
[06:14] <ubotu> mrbigdownlow: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:14] <eduard> want*
[06:14] <beta> silentdis: unfortunately you cant deslect them...but no problem...stupid question anyways ;)
[06:14] <dx11101> when is the next release of ubuntu happening?
[06:15] <lotusleaf> !release > dx11101
[06:15] <Hobbsee> eduard: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs for bcm stuff
[06:15] <eduard> ok<Hobbsee>
[06:15] <lotusleaf> !feisty > dx11101
[06:15] <dx11101> ohh crap next month
[06:16] <dx11101> is it easy to upgrade?
[06:16] <fami> ah
[06:16] <fami> sorry but which shortcut to open Terminal ? Alt+F2 ?
[06:16] <SilentDis> dx11101: if you're going from edgy > feisty, it should be a few clicks and a download.  from dapper, you have to upgrade to edgy, then feisty.  either way, the instructions will be placed on !upgrade when the time comes :)
[06:17] <dx11101> im in edgy, im a linux noob still so thats why im askin
[06:17] <savor> fami: Alt+F2 brings up the run dialog. not sure what the default is for terminal, I usually set it to Win+T
[06:17] <SilentDis> dx11101: if you're on edgy, it'll be a snap.  your update manager will automatically offer it to you.  expect a ~200+MB download :)
[06:18] <dx11101> my 10+ years being a certified bonified windows gui operator gives me about [this much]  knowledge
[06:18] <savor> fami: Go into system setting -> Keyboard & Mouse and you can set it to whatever you like in the command shortcuts tab
[06:19] <pollyo> What exactly makes up the change?  Is it simply a configuration of software packages or do the ubuntu people program specific portions of the system?
[06:19] <fami> savor: thanks.
[06:19] <savor> np
[06:19] <SilentDis> dx11101: hehe :)  welcome to a true multi-user, multi-threaded os.  welcome to freedom :)
[06:19] <dx11101> im no expert, but id say it has to do with where the debian project is with its builds and the condition of ubuntu packages
[06:20] <SilentDis> pollyo: what change are you refering to, the various ubuntu releases?
[06:20] <pollyo> SilentDis: Yes
[06:21] <dx11101> i bought the book, "The Debian System" im on page 99 w00t
[06:21] <dx11101> then i get my Linux+ cert
[06:21] <dx11101> when i get the linux+ book........
[06:21] <SilentDis> pollyo: each new release of *ubuntu packages the latest software from the kernel, x.org client/server, windows manager, desktop environment, office apps, and other apps.  puts them all together into a nice, neat package that's supposed to be easy to use, and 'flows' well
[06:22] <dx11101> in other words
[06:23] <SilentDis> pollyo: they pull from the general FOSS community, as well as debian, and push updates upstream, etc.  the idea is "It Just Works (tm)", and you get regular predictable updates to the latest stuff.
[06:23] <dx11101> yeah
[06:23] <dx11101> dont the pull from the debian sid, or experimental builds or something
[06:24] <dx11101> or is it testing?
[06:24] <dx11101> because debian stable is always old old old stuff
[06:24] <SilentDis> pollyo: basically, rather than watching and waiting for app x, app y, window manager z, and so forth and making sure they're all latest versions by hand, ubuntu does it for you.  (a VERY generalized example)
[06:25] <pollyo> SilentDis: Thanks.
[06:25] <SilentDis> dx11101: they pull from all over.  sid and experimental are prime targets, of course, as the packages are mostly 'done' to work on a debian-based system.
[06:25] <dx11101> from my understanding, if you want mission critical servers and stuff, you run vanila debian, if you want leading edge you run ubuntu
[06:25] <pollyo> Any idea why some packages say something like BREAK when you go to install them?
[06:25] <SilentDis> pollyo: could you give an example?
[06:26] <pollyo> SildentDis: When you are in Adept and go to install a package sometimes it comes up in read and says BREAK ... I think that is the word it uses.
[06:27] <dx11101> BREAK sounds like some seriously cryptic debugging code
[06:27] <lahcen007> hi guys,
[06:27] <SilentDis> dx11101: i wouldn't say "if you want leading edge you go ubuntu", as debian unstable has many of the packages.  if you want a very stable system that's spit and polished and pre-packaged for conveniance, that's where ubuntu fits in :)
[06:28] <dx11101> i stand corrected :D
[06:28] <lahcen007> whenever i run kxdocker and run the mouse over it, there is a black background covering the whole qtsubapplication area, do you know how to fix that?
[06:29] <dx11101> is there something better then xmms that isnt as bulking as amorak?
[06:30] <lahcen007> so, no solution to my kxdocker problem,
[06:30] <lahcen007> ??
[06:30] <pollyo> Does the Live DVD install more packages then the CD version?
[06:30] <SilentDis> lahcen007: researching, never herd of that app
[06:30] <lahcen007> because i did uninstalled, and install like 3 times and nothing happened
[06:30] <SilentDis> !kxdocker
[06:30] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[06:31] <sdlnxgk> anyone around??
[06:31] <SilentDis> lahcen007: are you running a composite window manager?
[06:31] <lahcen007> yes
[06:31] <SilentDis> sdlnxgk: nope, we all left.  *shuts off lights* *hides behind counter* *giggle*
[06:32] <sdlnxgk> just loaded edgy and can't use konsole  to edit fstab is this normal??? and root files don't show up anymore to view... did something change??
[06:32] <sdlnxgk> SiletDis that would be my luck tonight ;)
[06:33] <SilentDis> sdlnxgk: hmm... did you try using a root konsole?  did you try just prefacing your command with sudo?  did you try dropping to a root shell (sudo -i)?
[06:33] <dx11101> how high up on the popularity totem pole in ubuntu?
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> yes tried using root and it will not let me insert just keeps beeping
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> I would say it's right at the top of the pole !!!
[06:33] <dx11101> root is disabled by default in kubuntu
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> that is my .02 cents
[06:34] <SilentDis> lahcen007: check the homepage, that's where I am right now gleaning info: http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php
[06:34] <fami> cya
[06:34] <dx11101> you have to change somehting somewhere in kde to login as root
[06:34] <dx11101> i think,....
[06:34] <mike__> all you have to do to get root is 'sudo su -'
[06:34] <Hasrat_USA> dx11101: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHAdVv6KFJc << M'ho munto amb l'Ubuntu :-)
[06:34] <dx11101> i did it like 2 months ago
[06:34] <lahcen007> just to double check, where do you if compsite is on?
[06:34] <lahcen007> i checked that SlientDis
[06:35] <lahcen007> I even tried the patch they offer, but no luck
[06:35] <SilentDis> sdlnxgk: walk me through command by command, what you did to try to edit /etc/fstab please.  i must be missing something hehe :)
[06:35] <sdlnxgk> I just changed use as on kate and then edited fstab that way
[06:35] <SilentDis> sdlnxgk: try this instead:  open up a term, and type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[06:36] <seven11> i need help with genview plug in for creating slideshow mpg i get the massage Cannot find 'identify' binary program from ImageMagick package. Please install it. ????? somebody know....
[06:36] <Hasrat_USA> dx11101: you like it? :)
[06:36] <SilentDis> sdlnxgk: it's not as pretty, but nano is very easy to use, and does the whole auto backup thing :)
[06:36] <dx11101> i dont have a youtube login
[06:36] <sdlnxgk> opened root console> sudo su > cd /etc> vi fstab   then hit the insert key but just beeped at me and the arrow keys were putting letters down on the screen..
[06:36] <dx11101> why is it 18+?
[06:37] <Hasrat_USA> just click on 'confirm;
[06:37] <Hasrat_USA> i dont know
[06:37] <Hasrat_USA> oh crap you dont? lol
[06:38] <SilentDis> lahcen007: I'd say check their official IRC channel.  Server: irc.azzurra.net channel: #kxdocker
[06:38] <sdlnxgk> works great using nano :)
[06:38] <sdlnxgk> but never used nano before how do you save it...
[06:39] <sdlnxgk> I can exit but not sure how to save
[06:39] <kouran> ctrl+x
[06:39] <SilentDis> sdlnxgk: ctrl-x, it'll prompt to save
[06:39] <kouran> asks you to save, press y, enter
[06:39] <lahcen007> thanx SilentDis\
[06:39] <SilentDis> lahcen007: sorry i wasn't more help.  always good to hit up the 'official' places though :)
[06:39] <sdlnxgk> I got it ctr+o :)
[06:40] <sdlnxgk> thanks SilentDis
[06:40] <sdlnxgk> is anyone else having issues  with the normal konsole editing stuff??
[06:40] <lahcen007> thanx tho
[06:40] <SilentDis> sdlnxgk: nt.  you know, in all my time using various *nix, i've NEVER gotten used to using vi and vim.  i always end up muddling my way through it... just barely lol
[06:41] <sdlnxgk> that is all I used to use :)
[06:41] <sdlnxgk> guess it's time to learn something new
[06:42] <Orange1> whats the kde equivilant of a calender / appointment  program?
[06:42] <sdlnxgk> SilentDis what is up with  viewing  stuff in " / " in the file browser everything is hidden now??
[06:42] <Skuller> Orange1: kontact?
[06:42] <makki>  
[06:42] <Orange1> hmm
[06:42] <makki>       
[06:42] <Skuller> !urdu
[06:42] <makki>  
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about urdu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <lahcen007> wa 3alaikom asallam ya maki
[06:42] <Hasrat_USA> lol are you taking a quiz orange?
[06:43] <makki>    
[06:43] <SilentDis> sdlnxgk: yeah, by default konqueror hides stuff.  gatta go View > Show Hidden :P
[06:43] <lahcen007> makki speaks urdu too , nice!
[06:43] <SilentDis> makki: language?
[06:43] <Hasrat_USA> wtf is this arabian camel sheet?
[06:43] <sdlnxgk> SilentDis is that something new for Edgy???
[06:43] <Skuller> umm cant makki chat in english at all?
[06:43] <makki>   
[06:43] <Orange1> Skuller: thanks
[06:43] <Skuller> np
[06:44] <makki>      
[06:44] <SilentDis> !wft | Hasrat_USA
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <SilentDis> aargh, lol
[06:44] <Orange1> burned.
[06:44] <Skuller> is there no urdu channel?
[06:44] <Skuller> !ur
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ur - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <makki>       
[06:44] <lahcen007> is there an arabic channel?
[06:45] <SilentDis> Hasrat_USA: it's not polite to refer to other's native languages as such.  it's best, instead, to refer to the proper channel for help :)
[06:45] <Skuller> !arabic
[06:45] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[06:45] <Skuller> ahh
[06:45] <Skuller> !arabic | makki
[06:45] <ubotu> makki: please see above
[06:45] <Orange1> lol
[06:45] <Orange1> theres no1 there
[06:45] <SilentDis> Skuller: thank you, i was stuck on trying to remember the 2-letter code myself lol
[06:45] <Orange1> thats just mean Skuller
[06:45] <Skuller> lol
[06:46] <Skuller> damn...its only makki in the arabic channel
[06:47] <SilentDis> sdlnxgk: i couldn't tell you if it's 'something new' in edgy, as I only just started using kde with edgy myself.  I was a gnome user in dapper and for quite a while in edgy.  I'm warming up to it now though :)
[06:47] <makki> no arabic or urdu channel
[06:47] <makki> sad
[06:47] <makki> i m going
[06:48] <SilentDis> sorry makki :(
[06:48] <Orange1> Skuller: i can only imagine hes having trouble enabling english on his OS after messing around and changing it to arabic
[06:48] <Orange1> oo he can speak english
[06:48] <makki> no Problem i eill try later
[06:48] <Skuller> hehe yea he can
[06:49] <makki> broken english only
[06:49] <Skuller> ohh
[06:49] <Orange1> makki:  if u understand even a lil - im sure u can get some sort of help
[06:49] <Skuller> now i know why english is so important to know even if its not the most spoken language
[06:49] <lahcen007> makki, i speak arabic
[06:49] <makki> 
[06:49] <Orange1> or that works too.
[06:50] <makki>   
[06:50] <makki>   
[06:50] <lahcen007> la, ma aktub 3arabi!
[06:50] <lahcen007> ma fi mushkila!
[06:50] <makki>   
[06:50] <Skuller> umm luks like you dont write arabic...is it?
[06:50] <Orange1> lol - is he messing with makki?
[06:51] <lahcen007> no i don't, but i hope he understand the englishised arabic,
[06:51] <Skuller> lol...no idea...but i dont know what to interpret from the !
[06:51] <Skuller> yea hope so
[06:51] <hackdaddy> hi aaron
[06:51] <Hasrat_USA> vista is an arabian word
[06:51] <lahcen007> sho hiya el mushkila ya makki?
[06:52] <makki> aataqel la yumkin liaahad musaadati
[06:52] <Orange1> Skuller: is Kontact the only program?
[06:52] <Skuller> Orange1: its the only one i know since it came with a base kubuntu install
[06:52] <Hasrat_USA> ya akbaru vista fuct upppa :)
[06:52] <lahcen007> anta aidan,
[06:52] <hackdaddy> bungko eebee poohay! binkie flardo! yah!
[06:52] <Orange1> i want to write down when/what days i work-- keep a record
[06:52] <Skuller> lahcen007: you just asked him his problem dint ya....mushkila...
[06:53] <lahcen007> i asked him what the prob is! yes
[06:53] <Orange1> i need to plan a budget and prepare for a 50 day vacation to carribbean
[06:53] <Skuller> Orange1: sorry i cant help you there....:(
[06:53] <lahcen007> can we get into a private room, makki?
[06:54] <Orange1> go to ubuntu-sa ? or was it kubuntu-sa
[06:54] <lahcen007> fina nedkhul ila ghurfa khasa?
[06:55] <lahcen007> finak ya makki?
[06:55] <sdlnxgk> nv video drivers just stopped and put me in 800x600 :( gotta fix it !!
[06:55] <Skuller> lahcen007: just open up a private chat session with him..../msg makki
[06:55] <lahcen007> it won't open, it says it has been restricted!
[06:56] <Skuller> lahcen007: are you registered?
[06:56] <delrey> I got everything to work on my wireless card just as it works on another machine in the house (both wifi cards connect to the AP), but I can't get this one to dhclient properly.
[06:56] <delrey> Can someone _please_ help?
[06:56] <lahcen007> skuller: no ia m not!
[06:56] <Skuller> lahcen007: then do so..../msg nickserv register "password"
[06:57] <lahcen007> how do i register?
[06:57] <kouran> what do i need to do to enable wpa?
[06:57] <sdlnxgk> delray never got my wireless working with linux yet..
[06:57] <kouran> it only gives me a wep option
[06:57] <Skuller> !register | lahcen007
[06:57] <ubotu> lahcen007: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:58] <delrey> I'm trying to get WEP access + DHCP to work with a WMP11v4 Linksys card
[06:58] <kouran> im using wpa, but i only get a wep option? how do i get wpa?
[07:01] <kouran> anyone?
[07:01] <Orange1> Skuller: how do i make this irc client save any msgs with my name on it - cuz sometimes ppl msg me in this channel but the msg is gone cuz too much text scrolled it away by the time i get back
[07:01] <Orange1> Skuller: using Konversation
[07:03] <Skuller> Orange1: the logs are auto created in /home/username/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs
[07:05] <bdb> where would i put my own iptables rules ?
[07:05] <Skuller> Orange1: if it is disabled you can enable it in Settings-->configure konversation-->behaviour-->logging-->'check enable logging'
[07:07] <Orange1> Skuller: tx
[07:07] <Skuller> Orange1: np
[07:08] <bdb> yo ?
[07:08] <bdb> yo
[07:08] <bdb> opps
[07:08] <bdb> iptables ?
[07:11] <enzo_> Does Kubuntu Edgy have an issue reading a 500GB hdd?
[07:12] <Skuller> enzo_: shouldnt.....try google
[07:12] <enzo_> Skuller: It's a bigger issue than the 500GB
[07:12] <chin2> dudde
[07:12] <chin2> somone wak eup
[07:12] <Skuller> enzo_: ??
[07:12] <enzo_> I can't get GRUB to load from a ghost'd hdd
[07:12] <chin2> where do i put iptables rules
[07:13] <chin2> i know you guys have a place for it
[07:13] <Skuller> enzo_: k sorry...no idea....hope someone else helps
[07:13] <enzo_> Skuller: Many have tried and I've come up with blanks
[07:14] <Skuller> enzo_: :(
[07:14] <enzo_> It just freezes when it says "GRUB is loading..."
[07:14] <enzo_> Instead of using Norton Ghost, I'm using Partition Magic
[07:14] <enzo_> It's strange because I gained 4GB on the new image
[07:15] <Skuller> enzo_: you mean you are using a back up soft on the hdd while dual booting?
[07:15] <enzo_> I'm not gaining/losing anything with Partition Magic doing the "Copy Partition" feature
[07:15] <enzo_> I had 250GB hdd
[07:15] <losdog> well hello. this is my first day on a new ubuntu install
[07:15] <enzo_> hda1 is winxp, hda5 is swap, hda6 Ext3
[07:15] <enzo_> I upgraded to 500GB hdd
[07:15] <enzo_> I used ghost to copy EVERYTHING over
[07:16] <enzo_> somehow I gained 4GB with the ghost of Kubuntu Edgy
[07:16] <chin2> yo this chqt room sucks ass
[07:16] <Skuller> enzo_: hope this gives an idea.....but i tried installing norton GoBack and it wudnt let me...just coz i was dual booting...i think theres something about it that doesnt let thses softs work properly
[07:16] <enzo_> Skuller: I really hope its something as simple as me doing something wrong
[07:16] <enzo_> AND
[07:17] <hackdaddy> why does "su" not take my password?
[07:17] <Skuller> enzo_: so according to me your best bet would be start over from scratch and NOT use any imaging/ghosting soft
[07:17] <Alpha_Cluster> hackdaddy: you have to use sudo su - to get root
[07:17] <enzo_> I've tried to reinstall GRUB using Super GRUB Disk. Nothing. Freezes when trying to find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:17] <Skuller> losdog: welcome to the world of ubuntu/kubuntu
[07:17] <hackdaddy> thanks alpha!!!
[07:17] <Alpha_Cluster> np
[07:17] <enzo_> Skuller: I was actually thinking about doing that if all else fails
[07:18] <Skuller> enzo_: you could try removing the ghosting program and try to install the GRUB once more
[07:18] <Orange1> losdog: welcome! - if you have any questions just ask. Don't ask to ask.
[07:18] <enzo_> I was also thinking that it might have something to do with the change of the allocated space for Kubuntu. I expanded it to use the remainder of the drive
[07:18] <losdog> i installed the kubuntu package and it doesnt look any different and how do i get xgl/compiz
[07:19] <enzo_> losdog: Check out Beryl
[07:19] <Skuller> enzo_: well the partition gurus would be able to comment on that
[07:19] <enzo_> Skuller: and they are...?
[07:19] <enzo_> Skuller: and who are they?
[07:19] <Orange1> enzo_: probably sleeping
[07:19] <Skuller> enzo_: the 'whos who' people would be able to know that
[07:19] <enzo_> intelikey?
[07:19] <enzo_> Hobbsee?
[07:19] <Skuller> yea...true that...prolly away or sleeping
[07:20] <Skuller> yes i wudnt doubt any of them
[07:20] <enzo_> I like intelikey's patience with me :P
[07:20] <losdog> bery?
[07:20] <enzo_> I bug him quite a bit
[07:20] <enzo_> losdog: beryl
[07:20] <Skuller> hehe
[07:20] <Skuller> hes quie patient
[07:20] <enzo_> !beryl | losdog
[07:20] <ubotu> losdog: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:21] <enzo_> Skuller: 93% completed
[07:21] <enzo_> Skuller: Lets see if I can get this working
[07:21] <Skuller> enzo_: losdog: please get used to kubuntu's basic functions first and get your basic requirements up and running before going into risky things
[07:21] <enzo_> Skuller: I have (or had) Beryl on my old hdd
[07:21] <enzo_> I LOVED using Beryl
[07:22] <enzo_> I showed it to a supervisor and he was psyched
[07:22] <Skuller> enzo_: i was just trying to tell you not to recommend someone to install beryl on their first day with kubuntu....
[07:22] <Skuller> lol
[07:22] <Skuller> yea he must be...it does rock
[07:22] <enzo_> Skuller: Whoopsie!
[07:22] <enzo_> I have a video of it online
[07:22] <enzo_> on my website
[07:22] <Skuller> enzo_: they need to be able to do basic things first
[07:22] <enzo_> but somehow it won't play
[07:22] <Skuller> hmm
[07:23] <Skuller> losdog: ask away ur basic requirements first
[07:23] <enzo_> so I removed it and I will play with it once I get Kubuntu running again
[07:23] <Skuller> nice
[07:23] <Skuller> ok guys...i'll be off...need to get started with my school HW....lazy me startin on sunday evenin...:D
[07:24] <enzo_> It all started off with some rubber mallet that initiates a desktop animation that breaks the window/screen and then just shuts off.
[07:24] <enzo_> I showed him the Desktop Destroyer app for win and he was happy. I showed him the Beryl vidz on YouTube and he just got excited
[07:25] <enzo_> Noob question: What are inodes?
[07:25] <DisabledDuck> does anyone know how to remove the usplash?
[07:25] <lotusleaf> DisabledDuck, should be listed in services, disable it
[07:26] <mike__> enzo_: inodes are like data blocks on the hard drive
[07:26] <DisabledDuck> lotusleaf
[07:26] <DisabledDuck> lotusleaf: forgive the noobness, services?
[07:27] <enzo_> thank you mike__.
[07:27] <nospi> hey
[07:27] <enzo_> I give up trying to recover the info
[07:27] <enzo_> g'night all
[07:27] <nospi> need help. how do i install themes?
[07:27] <nospi> i downloaded some
[07:28] <xavior2180> enzo_: i could be wrong, but it's something like that
[07:28] <nospi> i am actually using ubuntu, but i have the KDE desktop, but in gnome you just drag the theme into the window, i don't know how to do it in KDE
[07:28] <chochis> hi
[07:28] <enzo_> xavior2180: something like what?
[07:28] <nospi> anybody know?
[07:28] <chochis> i need help abput a command
[07:29] <chochis> about a command
[07:29] <enzo_> sorry xavior2180, I didn't see the name change
[07:29] <xavior2180> enzo_: inodes being data blocks, address of data blocks actually i think
[07:29] <chochis> how i know what xorg, i have ?
[07:29] <enzo_> g'night all
[07:29] <chochis> how i know what xorg, i have ?
[07:30] <xavior2180> enzo_: if you google symlinks, it'll give you a good idea of how they work
[07:30] <nospi> !themes
[07:30] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:30] <xavior2180> well, the difference between symlinks and hardlinks
[07:32] <nospi> !changethemes
[07:32] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[07:32] <jarle> Does mplayer and gmplayer have different settings? I have some files that will only play with mplayer and not with gmplayer?
[07:33] <jarle> I though gmplayer was just a symlink to mplayer telling it to use GUI?
[07:33] <chochis> how i know what xorg, i have ?
[07:33] <chochis> how i know what version xorg, i have ?
[07:33] <chochis> anybody know ?
[07:33] <chochis> please i need help
[07:34] <chochis> :(
[07:34] <jarle> chochis: Xorg -version
[07:34] <chochis> thanks
[07:36] <lotusleaf> DisabledDuck, though I've not tried this myself, have you tried removing splash from /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:36] <thumper> why does firefox look so crap in feisty?  I've got this ugly black line between the url bar and the link bar that wasn't there in edgy
[07:36] <thumper> is there a "make firefox look good in kde" package that is missing?
[07:36] <lotusleaf> thumper, have you configured in kubuntu kcontrol the settings to make gnome apps appear nicer in KDE?
[07:37] <DisabledDuck> lotusleaf: i found a howto in google
[07:37] <thumper> I had in edgy before the upgrade
[07:37] <lotusleaf> DisabledDuck, excellent
[07:37] <DisabledDuck> lotusleaf: i appreciate it
[07:37] <thumper> lotusleaf: somewhere in system settings?
[07:37] <lotusleaf> DisabledDuck, thought I lost you there, glad you popped back in :)
[07:37] <lotusleaf> thumper, ALT+F2 type kcontrol hit enter then go to the area for gtk/gnome
[07:38] <thumper> lotusleaf: which area for gtk/gnome?
[07:38] <lotusleaf> thumper, one sec, I think it's in or around look and feel
[07:39] <thumper> lotusleaf: appearance & themes
[07:39] <thumper> but is already had use my kde style in gtk apps
[07:39] <thumper> and use kde fonts in gtk apps
[07:39] <lotusleaf> modify it to say Qt
[07:39] <lotusleaf> then restart ff
[07:39] <thumper> ok
[07:40] <DisabledDuck> lotusleaf: heh, yeah, i restarted to see if it fixed it, it did
[07:40] <lotusleaf> :)
[07:40] <thumper> lotusleaf: still got the ugly line separating the two bars
[07:40] <lotusleaf> thumper, one sec
[07:41] <lotusleaf> I'm not on my kubuntu box atm, but if I remember correctly I think you install some gtk-qt related package
[07:41] <thumper> lotusleaf: ta, I'll go look
[07:43] <lotusleaf> thumper, this may be it: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[07:43] <lotusleaf> it's been awhile since I've done it
[07:45] <Priest-of-Psi> hi all
[07:46] <Priest-of-Psi> how does kopete do with webcams?
[07:49] <marek_> hi
[07:50] <marek_> is there anyone?
[07:51] <DisabledDuck> does anyone know if there is a way to get google earth on Linux?
[07:51] <marek_> did U try automatix?
[07:51] <beta> Diasbled: medubuntu repository i think
[07:51] <beta> DisabledDuck:
[07:51] <beta> hell..i need to catch some sleep
[07:52] <beta> medibuntu
[07:52] <marek_> I've got quite big problem
[07:52] <beta> !medibuntu
[07:52] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[07:52] <marek_> i have laptop Asus with Realtek High Definition Audio
[07:53] <marek_> and I'm not able to run sound on kubuntu
[07:53] <beta> DisabledDuck: googleearth  4.0.2414-1medibuntu3 seems to be in there
[07:54] <marek_> does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[07:55] <lotusleaf> you can download and install google earth from google's site too
[08:02] <thumper> lotusleaf: got gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed already
[08:03] <lotusleaf> thumper, hmm, I forget then, sorry, and I'm not on my kubuntu box atm, you could try ubuntuforums.org if it's quiet in here or #ubuntu or ask again when more people are awake :)
[08:03] <lotusleaf> thumper, or ask in #kde about it and mention KDE not kubuntu as they will refer you here, but it's a KDE related question
[08:04] <thumper> lotusleaf: ta
[08:04] <lotusleaf> thumper, I say #ubuntu as it's kinda gtk related :P
[08:04] <lotusleaf> thumper, yw
[08:06] <bbeck_> I was wondering if Kirocker will be included in the next version of Kubuntu?
[08:11] <Hobbsee> bbeck_: by default?  no
[08:11] <Hobbsee> !info kirocker
[08:11] <ubotu> Package kirocker does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[08:11] <Hobbsee> !info kirocker feisty
[08:11] <ubotu> Package kirocker does not exist in feisty
[08:12] <emanuele11> hi all
[08:13] <bbeck_> Hobbsee: It's an applet for Amarok.  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kirocker+Music+Display?content=52869
[08:13] <bbeck_> It's quite nice.
[08:13] <emanuele11> is there a program that eliminates duplicates files in a directory?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> nice
[08:15] <bbeck_> emanuele11: Do you mean duplicate contents or duplicates names with different cases?
[08:20] <sdlnxgk> anyone have issues  with nvidia card??
[08:21] <sdlnxgk> my video driver will not reinstall i'm stuck in 800x600
[08:21] <sdlnxgk> !nvidia
[08:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:22] <emanuele11> i mean that in my pc i have 2 times the same mp3
[08:23] <emanuele11> e.g /home/tux/data/mp3/blue-guilty.ogg and /home/tux/mp3_2/Blue/blue_guilty.ogg
[08:24] <emanuele11> kleansweep?
[08:25] <bbeck_> emanuele11: So what you are saying is that you have two duplicate directories?  Or that in two directories some of the files are duplicates, but not all files?
[08:26] <emanuele11> i have 2 dirs with several files. Some files are in 1st, some in 2nd and some in both
[08:26] <emanuele11> now i tried kleansweep but it doesnt works
[08:27] <emanuele11> !info kleansweep
[08:27] <ubotu> kleansweep: File cleaner for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 131 kB, installed size 448 kB
[08:27] <emanuele11> !help
[08:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:29] <bbeck_> emanuele11: I guess I just don't understand why you don't pick the dirctory you want and copy the files from the directory you don't want to use anymore to the directory you do want to use.  cp olddir/* newdir/
[08:30] <emanuele11> well i have lots of subdirs
[08:30] <bbeck_> emanuele11: ah
[08:30] <emanuele11> now i try kleansweep
[08:31] <emanuele11> the command tree sayes: 1504 directories
[08:31] <sdlnxgk> bbeck_ you know anything about video drivers???
[08:32] <emanuele11> thanks anyway, kleansweep is user-friendly and useful!
[08:32] <bbeck_> sdlnxgk: very little, I have an Nvidia card, and just use the ubuntu packages to get the drivers.
[08:34] <bbeck_> emanuele11: let us know if it solves your problem, if it does I'm sure that someone else could benefit from that app.
[08:36] <emanuele11> kleansweep is a powerful app, for duplicated, obsolete,empty, temp,... files and, for duplicated files it lists them and then do:
[08:36] <emanuele11> [checkbox]  file a.mmm
[08:36] <emanuele11>          [checkbox]  file a.mmm (dup)
[08:37] <emanuele11> this second case it is as times as there are
[08:38] <emanuele11> eg, it lists at same file such as:   Moriro_damore.mid; moriro-damore.mid and Russo_moriro-damore.mid
[08:39] <emanuele11> but its slow with lots of files
[08:39] <DisabledDuck> can anyone suggest a program for converting mp3s to ogg?
[08:39] <emanuele11> ogg123 file.mp3 file.ogg
[08:39] <emanuele11> DisabledDuck: ogg123 file.mp3 file.ogg
[08:40] <Lynoure> DisabledDuck: if possible, convert from flac... better sound that way than by converting from mp3
[08:40] <DisabledDuck> thx
[08:40] <emanuele11> sorry i have to go.. i keep alive kleansweep and konversation so when i return i read your posts
[08:41] <DisabledDuck> ah, just downloaded some audio files (not music) from a torrent and they came in mp3 format
[08:41] <Lynoure> But if you go for low quality level, it probably does not make much difference
[08:41] <emanuele11> in Italy is breakfast-time
[08:41] <Lynoure> I was shocked to notice my fave songs only made me smile at ql 7, not lower
[08:41] <DisabledDuck> it's voice, so i'm happy with it
[08:41] <Lynoure> :)
[08:44] <DisabledDuck> hey, when i use ogg123 it says the file is corrupt... but i know it's not
[08:45] <bbeck_> DisabledDuck: I don't know about using ogg123, perhaps try using mp32ogg.
[08:45] <Pupeno> Hello.
[08:46] <Pupeno> Is there a midi on-screen keyboard packaged for (K)Ubuntu?
[08:51] <emanuele11> !midi*
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about midi* - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <emanuele11> !info midi*
[08:51] <ubotu> Package midi does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[08:51] <bbeck_> Pupeno: The only one I'm aware of is matchbox-keyboard see if that satisfies your needs.
[08:51] <Pupeno> bbeck_: anything that can generate midi will be good... I'll try that.
[08:52] <sdlnxgk> how can I change resolutions seems to be stuck in 800x600 !!1
[08:52] <bbeck_> Oops I'm sorry I misunderstood.  I thought midi was a spelling error for mini.
[08:52] <bbeck_> doh
[08:53] <Pupeno> bbeck_: oh, no... I am doing an application which should receive midi events and do something with them, but I have no midi keyboard (and no midi port anyway).
[08:53] <emanuele11> sdlnxgk: menu K/system/monitor & display/
[08:53] <emanuele11> system panel control
[08:53] <sdlnxgk> emanuelell does not let me make changes there
[08:54] <sdlnxgk> was working just fine and BAM went to 800x600
[08:54] <sdlnxgk> I even installed the nVidia drivers
[08:54] <emanuele11> sometimes it does te same thing with me
[08:55] <emanuele11> try ctrl-alt-backspace (before close all programs
[08:55] <emanuele11> try ctrl-alt-backspace (before close all programs)
[08:55] <sdlnxgk> tried that too
[08:56] <sdlnxgk> maybe I need to edit the file myself..
[08:56] <emanuele11> use xorgcfg
[08:56] <emanuele11> in ctrl alt f1 console
[08:56] <kristjans> hi
[08:56] <emanuele11> hi
[08:57] <kristjans> i am running windows 2000 through vmware and i have only 16 colours and no sound
[08:58] <sdlnxgk> emanuelell thanks will try that.. just looked in /etc/X11 and there are like 9 different settings in there... wierd
[08:58] <emanuele11> windows settings
[08:58] <emanuele11> kristjans: windows settings
[09:08] <cosmo_> this makes 3 days I have been figting with this and 3 reinstalls, I am running edgy, have a Gforce 6600GT a amptron cs17 CRT on the primary display and a optiquest q71 CRT connected to DVI out(with a CRT converter that came with the card) every time I try and follow the guides I have found to enable both with twinview it toasts the xorg.conf anyone able to help?
[09:09] <dystopianray> cosmo_: keep a replacement xorg.conf that works
[09:10] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm having some problems with my wlan card
[09:10] <Hail_Spacecake> it was working fine until a week ago
[09:10] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: what chipset?
[09:10] <Hail_Spacecake> and I didn't change anything in the system that I know of
[09:10] <Hail_Spacecake> dystopianray: broadcom
[09:10] <Hail_Spacecake> but I already had it working with ndiswrapper
[09:10] <Hail_Spacecake> perfectly fine
[09:10] <Hail_Spacecake> so I know I must've had the right driver
[09:10] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: how is it not working? what error messages do you get?
[09:11] <Hail_Spacecake> well, 1) the fact that the system no longer recognizes wlan0 as an existing device :)
[09:11] <cosmo_> I did that this time, any advice on getting twinview working?
[09:11] <Hail_Spacecake> also, a bunch of ndiswrapper errors with dmesg | grep ndiswrapper
[09:11] <Hail_Spacecake> there are a bunch of them
[09:11] <Hail_Spacecake> of the form
[09:11] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: pastebin them
[09:12] <Hail_Spacecake> alright
[09:12] <Hail_Spacecake> it'll take a bit, I have to transfer the text over the lan onto this computer
[09:12] <Hail_Spacecake> since I'm without any internet connection on the laptop
[09:13] <DisabledDuck> anyone else know of any audio conversion tools?
[09:13] <dystopianray> DisabledDuck: what sort of conversion?
[09:13] <crackhead_25> how do i see which audio cards i have installed?
[09:13] <Hail_Spacecake> what sort of audio conversion?
[09:13] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: /proc/asound/cards
[09:14] <DisabledDuck> mp3 to ogg
[09:14] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm not an expert
[09:14] <dystopianray> DisabledDuck: transkode is pretty good if you use amarok
[09:14] <crackhead_25> dystopianray: hey! im having the same problem i did last night with the new creative audigy card..
[09:14] <Hail_Spacecake> but won't the default ogg encoder take mp3 as an input?
[09:15] <Priest-of-Psi> hi all
[09:15] <crackhead_25> i got it to work with your instructions last night, running the modprobe snd_emu10k1.. even without removing the old audio driver..
[09:15] <crackhead_25> but now it's not working?
[09:15] <Priest-of-Psi> why does my pc lock up when I use my webcam
[09:15] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: does /proc/asound/cards show the card?
[09:15] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: have you adjusted the volume and made sure the card is not muted?
[09:15] <crackhead_25> how do i see what's in that folder? is there a command?
[09:15] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: probably not
[09:16] <crackhead_25> no, not muted
[09:16] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: it only does WAV or AIFF format
[09:16] <Hail_Spacecake> oh
[09:16] <Hail_Spacecake> well, then, go with transkoder
[09:16] <Priest-of-Psi> hmmm
[09:16] <Hail_Spacecake> my ndiswrapper error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10865/
[09:16] <Priest-of-Psi> ok I need to fix my webcam \
[09:16] <Priest-of-Psi> this is crappy
[09:17] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: lame --decode blah.mp3 - | oggenc -o blah.ogg -
[09:17] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: but that won't preserve tags
[09:17] <waylandbill> crackhead_25: is the module being loaded at startup? added to a file in /etc/modprobe.d?
[09:17] <Hail_Spacecake> why do you need the - between blah.mp3 and the pipe?
[09:18] <crackhead_25> i havent added the file yet. i didnt know how to do it. i know you said use a text editor, but i wasnt sure exactly what i added where in what file..
[09:18] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: tells lame to output to stdout
[09:18] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: the last '-' tells oggenc to read from stdin
[09:18] <cpk1> how was everyone st patricks day?
[09:18] <cpk1> you guys all sound too sober
[09:18] <waylandbill> the tags for an ogg can be specified on the command line. See oggenc man page.
[09:18] <crackhead_25> my kubuntu is drunk enough sometimes on the wrong drivers and other things for all of us -- and me
[09:19] <waylandbill> !info mp32ogg
[09:19] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:19] <Hail_Spacecake> is that '-' a standard bash thing?
[09:19] <Hail_Spacecake> or is that specific to lame or oggenc?
[09:19] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: it's a lame option
[09:19] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: look at the man pages for lame and oggenc
[09:21] <waylandbill> crackhead_25: you need to put the name of the module in a file in that directory on it's own line.
[09:21] <crackhead_25> so just snd_emu10k1
[09:21] <Hail_Spacecake> so does anyone know what those ndiswrapper errors might mean?
[09:21] <waylandbill> crackhead_25: yes
[09:21] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: no you put the module name in /etc/modules
[09:21] <crackhead_25> and then restart, and it should use that sound driver automatically? is there a way for me to stop it from using the old oens? how do i know which the old ones are?
[09:22] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: I believe you use the 'index' module parameters to tell alsa which is the first and second sound card
[09:23] <waylandbill> crackhead_25: to make it not use a driver, you need to blacklist it
[09:23] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: if you don't want to use the onboard sound just disable it in your bios
[09:24] <crackhead_25> ooh i see -- good idea.. disable in the bios..
[09:24] <crackhead_25>  i only have two entries in the modules currently: lp and sbp2?
[09:24] <crackhead_25> is that correct?
[09:25] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: there is no correct, it's your choice as to what goes in there
[09:25] <crackhead_25> are those good things to have?
[09:25] <crackhead_25> in pico, do i click ctrl+x to save and exit a change in that modules file?
[09:26] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: yes ctrl+x is correct
[09:26] <crackhead_25> ok. so i added it. now i just restart, bios disable onboard sound, and it should work? wish mel uck!
[09:27] <crackhead_25> is there a way to save my kde session to reload exactly as is after restart?
[09:27] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: it saves your session by default
[09:28] <waylandbill> crackhead_25: yeah. just logout. :-)
[09:28] <crackhead_25> nicccee
[09:28] <crackhead_25> k bb
[09:28] <Hail_Spacecake> anyone?
[09:29] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: bad driver? just a guess.
[09:29] <Hail_Spacecake> that's what I would've though
[09:29] <Hail_Spacecake> except I had the system working
[09:29] <Hail_Spacecake> using the exact same driver
[09:29] <Hail_Spacecake> until last week
[09:29] <kristjans> i can't change win 2000 colour depth and resolution from the minimum
[09:29] <kristjans> in vmware
[09:29] <Hail_Spacecake> is it possible to indanvertantly change the driver ndiswrapper loads?
[09:30] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: I've had a driver work and then not. with the supplied driver for this laptop. I had to get a driver for another laptop before it would work again.
[09:31] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: but doesn't mean the same thing would work for you
[09:31] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm using the driver that the ndiswrapper install guide recomended
[09:31] <Hail_Spacecake> bcmwl5 or something
[09:31] <waylandbill> kristjans: did you install vmware tools?
[09:31] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: bcm4318 card?
[09:31] <kristjans> waylandbill: it says i don't have these installed. sudo apt-get install vmware-tools?
[09:32] <Hail_Spacecake> waylandbill: 4306
[09:32] <waylandbill> kristjans: in the virtual machine!
[09:32] <Hail_Spacecake> *bcm4306
[09:32] <kristjans> how?
[09:33] <kristjans> oh, from vmware site?
[09:33] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: oh. I have a 4318. it uses the bcmwl5 driver. I tried 3 or 4 different bcmwl5 drivers before I found one that worked 100%
[09:33] <dystopianray> kristjans: go ask in #vmware this isn't a vmware or windows support channel
[09:33] <waylandbill> kristjans: from the menu.
[09:33] <Hail_Spacecake> waylandbill: I forgot where I got mine
[09:33] <Hail_Spacecake> where did you get yours?
[09:33] <kristjans> ok thx
[09:34] <kristjans> :)
[09:34] <crackhead_25> dystopianray: woo hoo i think the sound works now!
[09:34] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: I'll look if I bookmarked it.
[09:36] <crackhead_25> anyone know why the color of the screen is off in the monitor? everything looks a bit too light. the blue in the background of gmail, for instance, is a teal/lt blue instead of a ocean/darker/more grey-like blue.. ?
[09:37] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&page=116
[09:37] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: one those two is the one I used. don't recall which
[09:37] <Hail_Spacecake> waylandbill: okay, thanks
[09:37] <Hail_Spacecake> I'll try uninstalling and reinstalling the driver I have
[09:37] <Hail_Spacecake> first
[09:37] <Hail_Spacecake> see if that works
[09:37] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: good plan
[09:38] <Hail_Spacecake> it probably won't work
[09:38] <Hail_Spacecake> nothing in linux has ever worked if I uninstalled and reinstalled :)
[09:38] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: possibly gamma
[09:39] <waylandbill> crackhead_25: in firefox, gmail has a light blue background for me, not a dark one
[09:39] <crackhead_25> waylandbill: have you seen it in a windows system, though, even in firefox, it usually has a sort of darker blue..
[09:39] <crackhead_25> dystopianray: what's gamma, and how do i know ?
[09:40] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: look in the monitor and display section of system settings
[09:40] <waylandbill> crackhead_25: kcontrol .. peripherals, monitor, color & gamma.
[09:41] <waylandbill> crackhead_25: how do you know windows isn't displaying it right? :-P
[09:42] <crackhead_25> 'cause ive seen it on other linux boxes, and it looks that way too
[09:42] <crackhead_25> and i was using firefox in the windows anyway..
[09:42] <crackhead_25> and in my last install of opensuse10.2, i used firefox, and it looked that way, too..
[09:42] <Hail_Spacecake> hmm
[09:42] <crackhead_25> the gamma doesnt seem to have any effect.. i keep changing them around, and i hit apply, and nothing really seems to change on the screen..?
[09:42] <Hail_Spacecake> I got an error
[09:42] <Hail_Spacecake> when I tried reinstalling with the same driver
[09:43] <Hail_Spacecake> with modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:43] <Hail_Spacecake> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): invalid arguement
[09:43] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: you adjusted the colour sliders?
[09:44] <Hail_Spacecake> does that tell anything about my problem?
[09:44] <angela> when will a feisty fawn beta release be ?
[09:44] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: try reinstalling ndiswrapper as well to be sure.
[09:45] <cpk1> before april!
[09:45] <waylandbill> !feisty
[09:45] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:45] <Hail_Spacecake> waylandbill: how do I do that without a working internet connection?
[09:45] <eilker> how to add a program to start up ?
[09:46] <angela> 21/22 march beta release is scheduled
[09:46] <dystopianray> eilker: what program?
[09:46] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: don't have a way to hard wire connect the laptop?
[09:46] <crackhead_25> i'm playing around with 'em.. i dont know which one is best.. none of the configurations really change the color of the blue in that page.. (using it as a test..)
[09:46] <waylandbill> !autostart | eilker
[09:46] <ubotu> eilker: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:46] <dystopianray> crackhead_25: it could just be your imagination
[09:46] <crackhead_25> it's def not. i've seen it and compared.
[09:46] <Hail_Spacecake> waylandbill: is there a way to get the laptop to share the desktop's internet connection?
[09:47] <Hail_Spacecake> apart from that I don't have any wired internet connection
[09:47] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: there is, but it's not a simple process.
[09:47] <Hail_Spacecake> the router only has one ethernet jack and my brother is using it :)
[09:47] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: your brother doesn't need it :-D
[09:48] <eilker> dystopianray> it is kiba-dock
[09:48] <cpk1> Hail_Spacecake: YES there is
[09:48] <Hail_Spacecake> does synaptic maybe keep the original rpms around?
[09:48] <kristjans> debs?
[09:49] <fdoving> Hail_Spacecake: synaptic keeps the .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if you're lucky.
[09:49] <Hail_Spacecake> oh, it uses debs?
[09:49] <fdoving> of course.
[09:49] <Hail_Spacecake> I thought ubuntu was compatible with both, though
[09:49] <kristjans> ubuntu uses debs
[09:50] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: you can use rpm files, but it's best to use files that are intended for the distro if possible
[09:50] <waylandbill> !rpm
[09:50] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:50] <Hail_Spacecake> woah
[09:50] <cpk1> Hail_Spacecake: you can share internet connection through another computer
[09:50] <Hail_Spacecake> synaptic shows ndiswrapper as not even being installed!
[09:50] <Hail_Spacecake> cpk1: how do you do that?
[09:50] <cpk1> Hail_Spacecake: does the other computer have windows or ubuntu?
[09:50] <Hail_Spacecake> suse 10.1
[09:51] <Hail_Spacecake> but I can boot into windows if necessary
[09:51] <cpk1> its really quite easy and thankfully for you I've sobered up enough to help
[09:51] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: I figured something was up with ndiswrappers kernel module being missing. :--)
[09:51] <cpk1> Hail_Spacecake: alright so the computer that is connected to the modem has 2 nics?
[09:52] <Hail_Spacecake> nics?
[09:52] <waylandbill> network adapters
[09:52] <cpk1> Network Interface Card
[09:52] <Hail_Spacecake> it's got an ethernet card and a wireless card
[09:52] <Hail_Spacecake> so yeah
[09:52] <Hail_Spacecake> it gets the connection on the wireless card
[09:53] <cpk1> oh, well then you would need to get your wireless on the laptop working in the first place anyways
[09:53] <dystopianray> no, he just needs a crossover cable
[09:53] <Hail_Spacecake> I have a crossover cable
[09:53] <dystopianray> unless he has gigabit on both ends, then he can use patch
[09:53] <waylandbill> why? a crossover between the ethernet cards would do
[09:53] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm not entirely sure of hte terminology
[09:53] <Hail_Spacecake> but I've networked the two computers with a cable before
[09:54] <Hail_Spacecake> they both have both ethernet and wlan cards
[09:54] <cpk1> I'm confused, if the desktop is connected to the modem and only has one ethernet interface how is he going to successfully connect with his wireless when it doesnt work and he needs to download stuff?
[09:54] <Hail_Spacecake> the desktop isn't connected to the modem
[09:54] <Hail_Spacecake> the desktop is also on a wireless network
[09:54] <cpk1> oic
[09:54] <cpk1> alright
[09:55] <Hail_Spacecake> that's what I'm on now, the suse desktop
[09:55] <cpk1> there is actually a wiki for that then
[09:55] <waylandbill> :)
[09:55] <cpk1> lucky you
[09:55] <Hail_Spacecake> what's the link?
[09:55] <cpk1> hold yer horses
[09:56] <waylandbill> lol
[09:56] <cpk1> Hail_Spacecake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing several things though use kdesu instead of gksudo and use kate instead of gedit
[09:56] <Puaff> please, what is the package name of kdevelop in edgy?
[09:56] <Hail_Spacecake> okay
[09:57] <Hail_Spacecake> but won't gksudo still work in kde?
[09:57] <dystopianray> Puaff: kdevelop
[09:57] <cpk1> no clue
[09:57] <Hail_Spacecake> I think I've done it before
[09:57] <cpk1> use kdesu save us the trouble
[09:57] <Puaff> dystopianray: I can't find it by this name
[09:57] <Hail_Spacecake> but kdesu is probably more reliable anyway
[09:57] <dystopianray> gksudo will work if you have it installed
[09:57] <cpk1> any questions ask me
[09:57] <dystopianray> Puaff: it's in universe
[09:57] <Hail_Spacecake> speaking of kdesu
[09:57] <Puaff> dystopianray: ok, thanks :)
[09:57] <Hail_Spacecake> does anyone else think of it as the K Desu program?
[09:57] <Hail_Spacecake> desu being the japanese equivalent of "is" / 4chan meme?
[09:57] <Hail_Spacecake> or is this just me? :)
[09:58] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: no, nobody
[09:58] <runtime> hi
[09:58] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: you've been watching too much anime
[09:58] <cpk1> I know it means is in japanese but no never thought of it like that
[09:58] <Hail_Spacecake> well, that's true
[09:58] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: I would've never known. :)
[09:59] <runtime> whats up?
[09:59] <runtime> the ubuntu rocks
[09:59] <Hail_Spacecake> I would prefer to think of it as stemming from my linguistics interest rather than my otaku-ism, though
[10:00] <cpk1> read that wiki and figure out if you are going to have problems
[10:00] <Skuller> did anyone notice that theres not even a single person marked 'away' in this chat room?
[10:00] <cpk1> I think I am sleeping soon
[10:00] <cpk1> yes there is
[10:00] <runtime> :D
[10:01] <dystopianray> Skuller: there are many people marked away
[10:01] <Hail_Spacecake> cpk1: that wiki says something about needing a separate router
[10:01] <runtime> fck
[10:01] <waylandbill> !away
[10:01] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[10:01] <runtime> amarok crashes again :(
[10:01] <Hail_Spacecake> which I don't have
[10:01] <cpk1> Hail_Spacecake: you have a crossover so you are fine
[10:01] <Skuller> dystopianray: like whom?
[10:01] <Hail_Spacecake> okay
[10:02] <runtime> hey guys
[10:02] <cpk1> Skuller: it would be mean to ping them but look at the person whose name starts with apok
[10:02] <runtime> can i ask you something?
[10:02] <cpk1> no
[10:02] <cpk1> no questions allowed
[10:02] <runtime> please
[10:02] <waylandbill> !ask
[10:02] <dystopianray> runtime: no, please leave
[10:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:02] <runtime> ok
[10:02] <runtime> i want just to give me a think
[10:02] <runtime> kde or gnome?
[10:02] <runtime> i am in a big deal
[10:03] <dystopianray> runtime: try both and make your own decision
[10:03] <runtime> i tried
[10:03] <cpk1> obviously this channel will say kde
[10:03] <Hail_Spacecake> cpk1: should I be editing dhcpcd on the ubuntu laptop or the suse desktop?
[10:03] <runtime> a lot of times
[10:03] <dystopianray> runtime: so use your favourite
[10:03] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: ubuntu comes with dhclient
[10:03] <runtime> it is gnome :P
[10:03] <runtime> but i like kde
[10:03] <dystopianray> runtime: so use it
[10:03] <cpk1> Hail_Spacecake: the desktop is connected to the router right? so it will be serving the ips right? so then the desktop needs dhcpd
[10:03] <Skuller> omg theres something wrong....i just whois apok and his status appeared away.....i think the status is not updating itself in my konversation auto
[10:03] <Hail_Spacecake> okay
[10:03] <waylandbill> runtime: pick one or run a different one for different days of the week.
[10:04] <cpk1> I am really in a smartass mood so sorry if I offend
[10:04] <runtime> yeah but i kde the startup scripts allways crashes
[10:04] <Hail_Spacecake> the desktop has dhcpcd, so that's okay
[10:04] <runtime> i will use gnome
[10:04] <cpk1> Skuller: in konversation they have a little person icon thing when they are away
[10:04] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: you need a dns daemon on the system that is providing the internet access
[10:04] <runtime> waylandbill what time is there?
[10:04] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: dhcp and dns i mean
[10:05] <waylandbill> runtime: 5am
[10:05] <Skuller> cpk1: yes i am aware of that...and the problem is that no one except 'apok...' has it...and even he got it when i 'whois'ed him
[10:05] <runtime> oh
[10:05] <Hail_Spacecake> suse comes with those
[10:05] <runtime> here we have 11:05 morning
[10:05] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: dhcpcd is not a dhcp server, it's a client
[10:05] <runtime> do u know from whre my ickname is?
[10:05] <cpk1> dhcpd is the server name in ubuntu
[10:05] <runtime> nickname*
[10:05] <Hail_Spacecake> dystopianray: suse has dhcpcd
[10:06] <runtime> runtime error "windows message":D
[10:06] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: ubuntu will be providing internet to suse?
[10:06] <Hail_Spacecake> no, suse provides the internet to ubuntu
[10:06] <cpk1> Hail_Spacecake: ok well find the configuration file for dhcpd hopefully it is in the same place as in ubuntu
[10:06] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: dhcpcd is not a dhcp server
[10:06] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: you need a dhcp server to assign an address to the system that is going to use the shared internet.
[10:06] <cpk1> dont confuse the man!
[10:06] <Hail_Spacecake> oh!
[10:06] <Hail_Spacecake> I get it
[10:06] <runtime> ???????????????????????????????????
[10:06] <Hail_Spacecake> yeah, that makes sense
[10:06] <Hail_Spacecake> suse does have dhcpcd
[10:07] <runtime> i am confusing
[10:07] <runtime> lol
[10:07] <dystopianray> Hail_Spacecake: dhcpcd is NOT a dhcp server
[10:07] <Hail_Spacecake> and I'm pretty sure it has some sort of dhcp server
[10:07] <cpk1> tell me again that dhcpd is not a server when I am running dhcpd to serve my laptop
[10:07] <runtime> one more question
[10:07] <waylandbill> Hail_Spacecake: dhcpcd dhcpd  <-- see the difference?
[10:07] <Hail_Spacecake> waylandbill: I see the difference :)
[10:07] <runtime> what music player to use in ubuntu?
[10:08] <dystopianray> runtime: ask in #ubuntu
[10:08] <Hail_Spacecake> runtime: amarok
[10:08] <runtime> ok
[10:08] <Hail_Spacecake> use it anyway, I think it will work ok in gnome
[10:08] <cpk1> oh I see he typoed
[10:08] <waylandbill> runtime: amarok is for KDE btw. :-)
[10:08] <runtime> i know
[10:08] <runtime> its for windows xp too
[10:09] <pisedoffcracker1> can you run fedoracore in virtualbox?
[10:09] <dystopianray> runtime: an experimental development build?
[10:09] <runtime> yes
[10:09] <waylandbill> runtime: what's for windows?
[10:09] <waylandbill> pisedoffcracker1: I don't see why not.
[10:09] <runtime> it will be realese in stable version
[10:09] <runtime> soon
[10:10] <runtime> amarok
[10:10] <runtime> waylandboy>>>amarok
[10:10] <pisedoffcracker1> what versian of linux should you select for that?
[10:10] <dystopianray> runtime: very unlikely
[10:11] <runtime> for what?
[10:11] <cpk1> amarok WILL be on windows
[10:11] <runtime> yes
[10:11] <runtime> suck
[10:11] <cpk1> but it isnt yet
[10:11] <runtime> it will
[10:12] <aseigo> waylandbill: amarok is written using kde libs, but it runs quite well in non-kde workspaces
[10:12] <runtime> it has some betas
[10:13] <pisedoffcracker1> well in virtualbox it has linux versians you have to pick like 2.somthin
[10:13] <emacla> How do i run a python file?
[10:13] <dystopianray> emacla: python file
[10:13] <aseigo> lol
[10:13] <aseigo> "answer's in the question" indeed
[10:13] <emacla> I can't make it work!
[10:13] <dystopianray> emacla: are you sure it's not perl or something?
[10:14] <emacla> It's a .py file i wrote myself.
[10:14] <cpk1> aseigo: but i thought qt was going to be available on windows for sure when kde4 comes out?
[10:14] <emacla> How do i run it?
[10:14] <dystopianray> cpk1: open source qt4 is available for windows
[10:14] <emacla> If i clicks at it, it opens up in kate.
[10:15] <aseigo> cpk1: a) qt has always been available for windows, b) the open source on windows is the new bit, c) kde is a lot more than qt
[10:15] <dystopianray> emacla: set it as executable
[10:15] <waylandbill> dystopianray: yeah, but qt4 isn't kde
[10:15] <dystopianray> waylandbill: i'm not saying it is
[10:15] <cpk1> oh
[10:16] <aseigo> cpk1: so there's a lot of work to go into getting kdelibs properly supported on win32. backends for phonon, solid, etc.. file and print dialog integration, etc
[10:16] <waylandbill> dystopianray: right. missed the message you were replying to. :-O
[10:17] <aseigo> at this point it looks like the win32 build will be beta or even alpha quality when 4.0 is released
[10:17] <cpk1> shucks
[10:17] <aseigo> it may not firm up until 4.1 ... it builds, but it lags behind the linux/unix ports
[10:17] <aseigo> not surprising, really. windows is a very, very different beast from the rest of the supported platforms and there are relatively few devs working on it
[10:17] <waylandbill> I wonder how many users of windows will actually run kde when it's ported.
[10:18] <aseigo> waylandbill: well, i don't know if that question actually makes sense =)
[10:18] <waylandbill> aseigo: I mean a win32 version of kde.
[10:18] <aseigo> waylandbill: one won't "run kde" on windows.. people will run (and more importantly, hopefully write) applications that use kde libs
[10:18] <beta> there will be a kde port for windows?
[10:19] <cpk1> its just the libs
[10:19] <cpk1> so you can run cool apps like amarok
[10:19] <aseigo> beta: trunk/ already builds on win32, yes
[10:19] <waylandbill> aseigo: understood
[10:19] <beta> not sure if thats good or bad but ill be using it if it works
[10:19] <emacla> When i runs the python file, it says "Warning, unknown mimw type. Using application/"
[10:19] <emacla> *mime
[10:19] <dystopianray> emacla: run it in a terminal
[10:19] <waylandbill> kdevelop on win32 would be interesting.
[10:20] <dystopianray> emacla: do you have #!/usr/bin/python at the start of the file?
[10:20] <emacla> Haha, i forgot that.
[10:20] <aseigo> cpk1: that's a side effect, yes. there's not a whole lot of benefit for kde in people running our apps on windows, to be honest. reinforcing standards, opening up migration possibilities (think: kontact) and growing the developer base are the real goals
[10:20] <emacla> Thanks!
[10:20] <aseigo> cpk1: having kde apps on windows is just a happy by product of that goal
[10:20] <emacla> I just forgot the #!/usr/bin/python in the beginning. Sry
[10:21] <cpk1> imo it helps people see if they can use linux and still live
[10:21] <cpk1> to which the answer is yes of course
[10:21] <dystopianray> aseigo: are you that guy who is working on the oxygen icons?
[10:22] <aseigo> dystopianray: i'm not an artist; i help with some oxygen project coordination and i was the one who put the icons in kdelibs and ported the codebase to use them
[10:23] <dystopianray> ah
[10:23] <dystopianray> the shadows under the icons look awful, it's like they're disconnected entities floating randomly in space, rather than part of applications
[10:23] <aseigo> cpk1: if that was how it worked, open office and firefox would be having that affect. they haven't been.
[10:24] <aseigo> dystopianray: as i said, not an artist =) i write code... i'll pass on your thoughts though... =)
[10:25] <aseigo> (to the artists, that is)
[10:25] <waylandbill> hmm emacla left before I was going to say  "#!/usr/bin/env python"
[10:26] <Ayabara> I have a Dell Inspiron laptop with media keys. Is it possible to adjust how much the volume is changed when I use these buttons?
[10:28] <dystopianray> Ayabara: they're handled by kmilo, i just ended up turning off kmilo and setting up my own input actions
[10:28] <waylandbill> Ayabara: you can use dcop actions to kmix
[10:29] <dystopianray> Ayabara: or you can call amixer directly
[10:29] <Ayabara> dystopianray, waylandbill, sounds like what I want, but I have no idea how to do it :-)
[10:29] <waylandbill> Ayabara: for my suggestion, this may help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDEMultimediaKeys
[10:29] <dystopianray> Ayabara: in the service manager disable and stop kmilo, then in accessibility -> input actions, configure some actions for the multimedia keys
[10:30] <cpk1> Ayabara: thats from a book isnt it?!
[10:30] <lupul> hi. need some help
[10:30] <Ayabara> cpk1: Perrin Aybara from The Wheel of Time :-)
[10:30] <cpk1> I knew it
[10:30] <lupul> what do i do to let valknut go through guarddog?
[10:32] <dystopianray> lupul: you have to use the poisonous flower on the meat and give it to the guard dog, so it falls asleep
[10:32] <Ayabara> dystopianraym waylandbill, thanks for the input. seems pretty straightforward
[10:32] <lupul> :)) OK THANKS
[10:34] <runtime> hi bot
[10:34] <runtime> kubotu
[10:34] <ubu> hi
[10:35] <runtime> any bot?
[10:35] <runtime> bot
[10:35] <ubu> what command do i use to change my nick?
[10:35] <dystopianray> !hello
[10:35] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[10:35] <Skuller> !info hello
[10:35] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[10:36] <ubu> what's up?
[10:37] <Skuller> hey guyss.....i just apt-get hello....what is it and what do i do with it?
[10:38] <dystopianray> Skuller: read the man page
[10:38] <ubu> what's the best game to play on Kubuntu feisty fawn?
[10:38] <Skuller> dystopianray: man page?
[10:38] <dystopianray> ubu: angband
[10:39] <dystopianray> Skuller: man hello
[10:40] <ubu> what's angband, dystopianray?
[10:41] <ubu> Ubuntu should let ppl watch free movies and stuff while they install
[10:41] <dystopianray> ubu: "A single-player, text-based, dungeon simulation game."
[10:41] <ubu> that would be cool
[10:41] <dystopianray> ubu: you can watch all the movies you want in the livecd environment
[10:41] <dystopianray> ubu: you can do anything, even install new packages
[10:41] <ubu> tyahks, dystopianray
[10:42] <ubu> why does my keyboard seem to repeat characters?
[10:42] <dystopianray> ubu: you're not releasing the key fast enough
[10:43] <JohnFlux> Does kubuntu's synaptic support porn-get too?
[10:43] <JohnFlux> :-D
[10:44] <ubu> what's xresprobe?
[10:44] <dystopianray> ubu: read the man page
[10:44] <ubu> brb, have to restart the install
[10:45] <Ayabara> does krename use rename to do what it does? if so, is it possible to view the command line(s) it runs? could be useful to learn regexp
[10:47] <JohnFlux> Ayabara: no
[10:47] <JohnFlux> Ayabara: but there's a gui for building regexp's
[10:47] <jmiller565> !xresprobe | ubu
[10:47] <JohnFlux> Ayabara: kregexpeditor
[10:48] <ubotu> ubu: xresprobe: X Resolution Probe. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.24 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 96 kB
[10:48] <dystopianray> !angband
[10:48] <ubotu> angband: A single-player, text-based, dungeon simulation game.. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.0.6-1 (edgy), package size 669 kB, installed size 2400 kB
[10:50] <Ayabara> JohnFlux: great. a guy at work did some query-replace with regexp in emacs the other day. it scared/impressed me so much that I need to learn it.
[10:50] <JohnFlux> Ayabara: heh
[10:50] <JohnFlux> Ayabara: they are consider write-only
[10:50] <alexandre> hello all
[10:50] <JohnFlux> Ayabara: it's actually quite easy to write complex regexp's
[10:50] <JohnFlux> Ayabara: if you do it in one go.   you just can't read them again later
[10:51] <waylandbill> try reading a perl script after 6 months. :-)
[10:52] <Ayabara> waylandbill: heh. another guy at work tried to explain to me what his perl script (3 months old) did, but he didn't understand it..
[10:52] <alexandre> I am french
[10:53] <Ayabara> JohnFlux: oh, and there's another reason why I must learn it. http://xkcd.com/c208.html
[10:53] <Ayabara> waylandbill: and one that explains a lot. http://xkcd.com/c224.html
[10:53] <alexandre> Do you speak french
[10:54] <Ayabara> alexandre: nope, but there is a french ubuntu channel? ubuntu-fr??
[10:54] <JohnFlux> Ayabara: I always like xkcd :-)
[10:54] <Ayabara> :-)
[10:55] <alexandre> ok, but I am new utilisator and I want use Konverstion client IRC
[10:57] <`Z`> poy ( amsg )
[10:58] <alexandre> I would use my wifi conection but I don't know softwere for
[11:00] <ab12> !libxine-extracodecs
[11:00] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[11:00] <ab12> !codecs
[11:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <alexandre_^_> I would use my wifi conection but I don't know softwere.
[11:03] <alexandre_^_> ^_
[11:04] <ab12> why can't I isntall libxine-extracodecs
[11:04] <ab12> and I have enabld universe ,ultiverse!
[11:04] <ab12> ,ultiverse=multiverse
[11:04] <waxyfresh> im folling these directins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and i keep getting this error:E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate'
[11:06] <alexandre_^_> I don't understand lol
[11:06] <hackdaddy> feisty is working well
[11:06] <hackdaddy> unbelievable
[11:07] <hackdaddy> no real bugs so far on vmware
[11:08] <alexandre_^_> bye because I am french and I don't undrstand
[11:08] <hackdaddy> hello because i understand
[11:08] <waxyfresh> im folling these directins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and i keep getting this error:E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate'
[11:08] <hackdaddy> sorry bad karma
[11:11] <hackdaddy> when i click complete upgrade in adept, what am i getting???
[11:12] <Smurphy[ACS] > !beryl
[11:12] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:13] <crackhead_25> does kubuntu have a built-in firewall?
[11:13] <waxyfresh> im folling these directins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and i keep getting this error:E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate'
[11:13] <Smurphy[ACS] > crackhead: Every Linux kernel - which supports iptables - has one ..
[11:13] <crackhead_25> how do i protect myself best from the internet? is there any necessary antivirus or firewall programs i need to run?
[11:13] <hackdaddy> other than a complete upgrade?
[11:13] <Smurphy[ACS] > waxyfresh: seems your eisty repository is not completely in sync with ubunt packages. Wait 30mins - run sudo aptitude update and try it again.
[11:14] <hackdaddy> not the set of all things not in the complete upgrade?  i'm confused...
[11:16] <eilker> !printer
[11:16] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:19] <Smurphy[ACS] > !#beryl
[11:19] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:20] <crackhead_25> anyone know why, after i lock current and start a new kde session, then end that session, and switch back to the originally locked one, my mouse cursor always disappears?
[11:20] <angela> hey, i dunno why my kubuntu is so slow at starting applications ...
[11:21] <angela> the kde spends too much time starting apps
[11:21] <crackhead_25> angela, how fast is your computer? what are its specs?
[11:21] <Smurphy[ACS] > angela: How much Ram  you  have in your computer ?
[11:21] <angela> windows is blazing fast compared to this
[11:21] <angela> Dell optiplex gx260 1.8ghz pentium4 512 ddram
[11:22] <angela> kde 3.5.6
[11:22] <angela> kubuntu 6.10
[11:22] <crackhead_25> video card?
[11:22] <c1|freaky> angela: r u on a laptop?
[11:22] <Smurphy[ACS] > It's a desktop system.
[11:22] <angela> radeon 9550 128mb
[11:23] <Smurphy[ACS] > angela: 512MB of Ram is definlty enough - have you enabled OpenOffice Quickstarter ?
[11:23] <c1|freaky> do you have a CPU with frequency scaling?
[11:23] <angela> no, its a first generation pentium 4 nothing fancy
[11:23] <Smurphy[ACS] > It's a Pentium 4 - so a heating station :)
[11:23] <c1|freaky> k
[11:23] <crackhead_25> is your bios configured correctly? (automatic is probably the best setting)
[11:23] <angela> i have openoffice but how do i know if quickstarter is active
[11:23] <angela> yes my bios is fine
[11:23] <Smurphy[ACS] > You see it in the Kicker Bar - if there is a OpenOffice button ...
[11:23] <angela> i mean ubuntu ran better
[11:23] <angela> no
[11:23] <ab12> I tryed to isntall apache on my edgy and at the end was this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10872/ can someone tell how can I rid of that error??
[11:23] <angela> in kicker there is no oo button
[11:24] <Smurphy[ACS] > ok. Then there seems to be something else slowing it down.
[11:24] <angela> i waited now about 20 secs for firefox to show up
[11:24] <angela> and the app kept loading..
[11:24] <Smurphy[ACS] > ab12: try out:L dpkg-reconfigure apache
[11:24] <c1|freaky> ab12: there is apache and apache2 ... u need to decide which one you want
[11:24] <hackdaddy> what does complet upgrade in adept mean?
[11:24] <crackhead_25> have you checked out your thread table / ksysguard? did you have a bunch running that is still and shouldnt be running?
[11:25] <ab12> c1|freaky: which one is newer
[11:25] <Smurphy[ACS] > angela: open a konsole - and type in free, check how much ram is available - then start in that console: top
[11:25] <c1|freaky> ab12: apache2
[11:25] <Smurphy[ACS] > angela: and start firefox again ...
[11:25] <Smurphy[ACS] > Guess your system runs out of Ram ...
[11:25] <Smurphy[ACS] > or there is a broken process somewhere.
[11:25] <angela> 515total,499608 used,15940 free
[11:25] <c1|freaky> ab12: do apt-get remove --purge apache and then apt-get install apache2
[11:26] <angela> ok im checking top
[11:26] <hak5fan> Hi I'm trying to install ubuntu on a very old 200 mhz computer with 256 mb ram. I only want to install the base packages because I want to use it as a webserver. I have the full kubuntu cd. The computer can't boot the live cd. What should I do?
[11:26] <c1|freaky> hak5fan: why can't your pc boot the live-cd? what error do u get?
[11:26] <Smurphy[ACS] > Hmmm... 15940 is low memory ... How much buffers/Cached you have ?
[11:26] <crackhead_25> angela, did you partition a proper swap partition?
[11:27] <hak5fan> It just hangs... and I haev to run it with nosplash boot option to see the errors
[11:27] <angela> buffers 31156 cached 313980
[11:27] <c1|freaky> hak5fan: just install in textmode
[11:27] <Smurphy[ACS] > hak5fan: In that case - use Ubuntu LTS 6.06.1 - and make sure you download the Server version... You can directly install a a LAMP Server with it.
[11:27] <angela> crackhead_25: yea i have a properly configured swap partiition active
[11:27] <angela> from kubuntu install
[11:27] <Smurphy[ACS] > angela: there definitly is enough memory available. Your system has all in cache/buffers.
[11:28] <angela> hmm
[11:28] <Smurphy[ACS] > what does top tell you ? when starting Firefox - the system load- and especially system utilization ?
[11:28] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] : ok so I have to download another cd then?
[11:28] <angela> now things feel a bit more fast
[11:28] <Smurphy[ACS] > hk5fan: the server verison has no X-Gui - just text based - and needs way less memory.
[11:28] <Smurphy[ACS] > Yes ...
[11:29] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] : Ok thanks.
[11:29] <angela> and then there is one more problem with kde , im sure its a bug and i can reproduce it easily
[11:29] <angela> its about text files
[11:29] <angela> in konqueror
[11:29] <Smurphy[ACS] > hak5fan: Don't find the Link right now. let me check.
[11:29] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] : ok
[11:30] <Smurphy[ACS] > angela: All security update installed ?
[11:30] <angela> Smurphy[ACS] : system is up to date with all updates
[11:30] <Smurphy[ACS] > hak5fan: check out: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[11:31] <Smurphy[ACS] > angela: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:31] <Smurphy[ACS] > is what I always do :)
[11:31] <Smurphy[ACS] > hak5fan: check if there is a newer iso :)
[11:32] <Smurphy[ACS] > hak5fan: Having this version running on 3 systems ;)
[11:32] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] : I'll do... Nice
[11:32] <c1|freaky> what is the advantage of using atitude instead of apt-* ?
[11:33] <Smurphy[ACS] > hak5fan: There is a 6.06.1 Server edition available. Take that one :) Go onto the Downloadpage and choose the Server Edition :)
[11:34] <Smurphy[ACS] > BTW : Hak5fan: Server LTS Version gets security updates until 2011 :)
[11:34] <c1|freaky> :)
[11:34] <c1|freaky> im running edgy server on my server ;D
[11:34] <c1|freaky> upgraded from dapper
[11:34] <c1|freaky> because of newer versions
[11:35] <Smurphy[ACS] > angela ??? Still there ?
[11:35] <Smurphy[ACS] > still have 20minutes ... After that I'll have to make lunch for the family ;)
[11:35] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] :
[11:35] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] : Downloading now
[11:36] <Smurphy[ACS] > hak5fan: ok ... :) Have even built my own firewall with that version... :) booting from CF-Card etc. :) Is really cool.
[11:37] <jeanre> hi all
[11:37] <jeanre> what do I need to install to get amarok to play mp3's?
[11:37] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] : cool it's a relativly large download... but I have a fast connection
[11:38] <Smurphy[ACS] > hak5fan: Me too. 6MB Downstream :) 512K Upstream :)
[11:38] <jeanre> anyone?
[11:38] <Smurphy[ACS] > !mp3
[11:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <Smurphy[ACS] > jeanre- check the robots answer :)
[11:39] <jeanre> yeah but I dont want to install gstreamer crap
[11:40] <Smurphy[ACS] > jeanrenault ? never mind ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[11:40] <Smurphy[ACS] > check that one. Using it here ... mp3 formats - as I can play them on my Ipod too ...
[11:41] <Smurphy[ACS] > jeanre: Check the Kubuntu stuff - not the Ubuntu stuff ...
[11:41] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] : I have 502 KB/s It's not extremly fast but It's ok
[11:42] <Smurphy[ACS] > *lol* ;) Sorry for you... That's my upload speed ... :) Takes me rough 10 minute to download :) *lol*
[11:43] <c1|freaky> i only have a 3Mbit/s connection
[11:44] <jeanre> haha
[11:44] <jeanre> amarok install it
[11:44] <jeanre> but it says I must restart
[11:44] <jeanre> and when I do
[11:44] <jeanre> it moans again\
[11:44] <eilker> i installed a program from source code, it is called turquaz, but when i do alt+f2 then type turquaz, it is not opened (going konqueror), and when i write it in console, again no sense (bash: turquaz: command not found), everytime will i type ./turquaz ??
[11:45] <Smurphy[ACS] > jeanre: You have all updates installed ???
[11:45] <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: make a: echo $PATH
[11:45] <jeanre> yes
[11:45] <ninHer> eilker in a console it is turquaz &
[11:45] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] : I only pay for 1 mbit. But a bug in the central gives me more speed!
[11:45] <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: Then you know why the bash or any other programm does not find it :)
[11:45] <ninHer> not just turquaz
[11:45] <Smurphy[ACS] > hakfan: *lol*
[11:46] <hak5fan> Smurphy[ACS] : so I'm very happy with it
[11:46] <Smurphy[ACS] > Here my line quality & Speed: http://stargate.solsys.org/mod.php?mod=systat&op=disp_ind&host_id=3
[11:46] <Smurphy[ACS] > :)
[11:46] <ninHer> eilker if it works it will be opened and if it doesn't will show you why
[11:47] <jeanre> I am paying for 1mb
[11:47] <jeanre> but our ISP is so stupid
[11:47] <eilker> ninHer: command not found
[11:47] <Smurphy[ACS] > jeanre: did the system install korrectly everything ? I'd advise to stop amarok, and start it from within a console, e.g. konsole: amarok - and check the output/logs
[11:47] <jeanre> I get 450kb/s downstream
[11:48] <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: export PATH=$PATH:.
[11:48] <ninHer> did you see the " & " after the turquaz ?
[11:48] <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: and try again :)
[11:48] <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: from inside the console, inside the directory the application is.
[11:48] <eilker> <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: export PATH=$PATH:.  // i didnt understand this
[11:48] <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: what gives:  echo $SHELL
[11:49] <eilker>  /bin/bash
[11:49] <jeanre> ok I have one last question
[11:49] <jeanre> why when I use my webcam
[11:49] <jeanre> my pc locks up after a while
[11:50] <Smurphy[ACS] > jeanre: Seems a USB Bug ... Dunno. Any more informations ?
[11:50] <jeanre> well I cant trace it
[11:50] <jeanre> as my pc locks up completly
[11:50] <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: smurphy@deimos:~$ export PATH=$PATH:.
[11:50] <Smurphy[ACS] > works here ...
[11:51] <Smurphy[ACS] > jeanre: Bad. Any clue ? I guess it's a USB Driver issue ...
[11:52] <Damian> Hi I am having some problems with installing tp-link wi fi device on my kubuntu. How can i check if my wi fi card works?
[11:52] <Smurphy[ACS] > Damian: iwconfig and ifconfig
[11:53] <eilker> <Smurphy[ACS] > ~/Desktop/TurquazLinux08Beta5/TurquazLinux08Beta5/turquaz/08Beta5$ export PATH=$PATH
[11:53] <eilker> <Smurphy[ACS] > is it ok ?
[11:53] <Smurphy[ACS] > export PATH=$PATH:.
[11:53] <Smurphy[ACS] > You forgot the :.
[11:53] <Smurphy[ACS] > at the end ... . stands for the local Directory... and you need it.
[11:53] <ninHer> cd ~
[11:54] <ninHer> in a console
[11:56] <eilker> Smurphy[ACS] > i did it and wrote       //        turquaz& // command not found
[11:56] <Smurphy[ACS] > Eilker: It's all a matter of security. Usually - admin or users with higher access levels - don't have "." in their Path - to prevent from spoofed packages.
[11:56] <eilker> ninHer> i did it
[11:56] <Smurphy[ACS] > in which Directory are you ?
[11:56] <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: in which Directory are you ?
[11:56] <Damian> Ok my wi fi card looks to work, but i still cant get connection. I opened Wireless Assistant, found my connection I typed in IP, NETMASK, GATEWAY, and DNS just like they were in windows, but it still doesent work. I also added wep key. Schould i type something in Broadcast and Domain? I havent found it on windows.
[11:57] <Smurphy[ACS] > Damian: Open Knetworkmanager
[11:57] <Smurphy[ACS] > Damian: Only use the Knetworkmanager under Kubuntu.
[11:57] <eilker> Smurphy[ACS] > i am here ~/Desktop/TurquazLinux08Beta5/TurquazLinux08Beta5/turquaz/08Beta5$
[11:58] <Smurphy[ACS] > eilker: make a: ls -l turquaz
[11:58] <Damian> Smurphy[ACS] : looks like i dont have it
[11:59] <ninHer> eilker: r u sure you have installed it ?
[11:59] <Smurphy[ACS] > Damian: Then: sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager
[11:59] <Smurphy[ACS] > ok folks. Have to go. My girls are hear - and it's my turn to make lunch ...
[12:00] <ninHer> bye Smurphy[ACS] 
[12:00] <Smurphy[ACS] > Cya ... Sorry I can't continue the support mission - but maybe someone else could take over :)
[12:00] <Smurphy[ACS] > cheers.
[12:00] <eilker> Smurphy[ACS] > rwxr-xr-x 1 machine user 43 2007-03-18 12:35 turquaz.sh
[12:01] <Damian> Yep but how can i download it if i dont have network connection :/
[12:01] <eilker> ninHer: yes when i do ./turquaz.sh , it opens program
[12:01] <ninHer> Damian: kde is nice but not miraculous......by now
[12:01] <ninHer> ;-)
[12:02] <Damian> ok maybe i wil download it on this pc on move to kubuntu on pendrive
[12:07] <nospi> hey guys, im having trouble. I'm using Ubuntu, but i installed the KDE-Desktop, and now i want to change my login window, but when i try to open the preferences, it won't open. It asks for my password, so i put it in, then it does nothing
[12:07] <nospi> this happens on both gnome and kde
[12:08] <nospi> can anyone help me fix it?
[12:08] <nospi> brb
[12:10] <nospi> can anyone help me?
[12:11] <Damian> ok i have it i wil try to install it rom source...
[12:12] <Damian> is there any knetworkmanager in deb?
[12:14] <Damian> yep looks like i am not going to install anything i am missing a lot of libriares
[12:14] <Damian> hmmmm.
[12:16] <Damian> configure says c++ processor fails sanity check
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> Damian: install the kde developer package, usually gets it all working
[12:18] <Damian> ok but will i be able to move it on pc on pendrive?
[12:18] <Damian> and where can i download it?
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> Damian: no because its actually a meta package that triggers a whole load of things to be installed
[12:20] <Linux_Galore> Damian: just use the package manager
[12:20] <Damian> But i have no internet connection on my kubuntu pc
[12:20] <Linux_Galore> Damian: then you up the creek
[12:21] <Linux_Galore> without a cd
[12:21] <Damian> what you mean?
[12:21] <Linux_Galore> Damian: you can magically make stuff appear on your install
[12:21] <Linux_Galore> cant*
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> Damian: I think your way out of your depth
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> bbl
[12:22] <miltos> hi ppl-:] 
[12:23] <max_> hi
[12:23] <angela> damn, i cant believe it how slow and unstable openoffice is now..
[12:23] <srecko> hello
[12:23] <srecko> I'm having problems with installin vmware tools on my kubuntu.
[12:23] <srecko> [/etc/init.d]  -> at this line, it says it cant create the .sh file
[12:23] <srecko> please help me :\
[12:23] <max_> how can i active the dual monitor with an nvidia card? (i used it under windows..)
[12:24] <srecko> if you understand what my problem is
[12:24] <miltos> my firefox can't handle mms://.... links any ideas? totem player starts and a message pops up with error...
[12:24] <corecode> hey
[12:25] <corecode> where would i find a list of packages contained on the kubuntu cd?
[12:25] <srecko> huh, anyone?
[12:25] <filthpig2> morning all
[12:25] <Damian> is opensuse better than kubuntu?
[12:25] <corecode> i need to decide if to use ubuntu or kubuntu now, because i will have to install it offline :/
[12:26] <max_> better kubuntu than opensuse
[12:26] <uros> hi all. does anyone know how to change the save as/open dialogue in opera from gtk to qt style?
[12:26] <srecko> in #kubuntu everybody says kubuntu, and in #ubuntu the other, so... :\
[12:26] <sylvain__> hi
[12:27] <filthpig2> can somebody dedicate some time to help me get my D-LINK DWLG120EUB2 wireless usb network card to work?
[12:28] <filthpig2> I've followed a few howtos on the net for my exact card, but I can't get it to work
[12:28] <ab12> I tryed to make index.php in my /var/www but there is somekind of error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10877/
[12:28] <filthpig2> (using ndiswrapper; prism54usb does not work)
[12:29] <filthpig2> the system notices that something is connected and ndiswrapper is enabled, but I do not get the wlan0-connection
[12:29] <filthpig2> iwconfig gives lo and eth0, no wireless extensions
[12:30] <Crashed> Hey guys, I want to dual-boot my current OS (Win88SE) and Kubuntu.
[12:30] <Crashed> I was wondering if you guys could step me through the process of how to do it.
[12:30] <filthpig2> win88? :D
[12:31] <filthpig2> Crashed: do you have the partitions ready?
[12:31] <Crashed> Win98 :)
[12:31] <Crashed> filth, I really don't know much about computers and all that.
[12:31] <waylandbill> the install CD will walk you through it.
[12:31] <Crashed> But I'm pretty sure my HD is already partitioned.
[12:32] <Jisao>   hi
[12:32] <Crashed> I have a C: and a D: drive.
[12:32] <Crashed> but only one HDD
[12:32] <waylandbill> Crashed: if you don't have free space, you'll have to have the installation reduce the partition size.
[12:33] <waylandbill> Crashed: of the existing partition I should say.
[12:33] <waylandbill> Crashed: before you even start, make sure you back up important data.
[12:33] <Crashed> Uhm, I want to do it on this computer. :)
[12:33] <Crashed> My only computer.
[12:33] <Crashed> It might be a problem.
[12:34] <Crashed> Windows uses my C: drive as its main drive, and my D: drive for my recycle bin.
[12:34] <Crashed> And other stuff.
[12:34] <waylandbill> Crashed: what will be a problem?
[12:34] <cvk77> my kasbar doesn't update correctly and "forgets" opened windows once in a while.
[12:34] <Crashed> Well, I want to install Kubuntu on my D: drive no?
[12:35] <waylandbill> Crashed: you can install it to either drive.
[12:36] <waylandbill> Crashed: if you don't have unallocated space, the installer will guide you on reducing the existing partition's size to make some.
[12:37] <mooseshaped> morning
[12:37] <Jisao> morning, mooseshaped
[12:38] <Crashed> I downloaded the iso, will I have to burn that onto a CD? :/
[12:38] <eilker> konversation -caption "%c" %i %m   // what does these mean -caption "%c" %i %m ?
[12:38] <Crashed> I haven't installed my burner software and don't know where the installer is :|
[12:38] <mooseshaped> I'm just getting over the shock of KUbuntu
[12:38] <mooseshaped> :needs something strong
[12:38] <waylandbill> Crashed: yes. get isorecorder for windows if you don't have anything else installed.
[12:38] <eilker> solved tahnx
[12:40] <waylandbill> morning mooseshaped, Jisao
[12:41] <Crashed> Ack
[12:41] <cvk77> my kasbar doesn't update correctly and "forgets" opened windows once in a while. anyone else noticed that?
[12:41] <mooseshaped> I think I've been converted from Debian hah
[12:41] <Jisao> Lol, join the club, mooseshaped
[12:41] <mooseshaped> I just installed this in about 20 mins my laptop which debian won't even see the disk for
[12:41] <mooseshaped> the wireless card even works!
[12:42] <filthpig2> mooseshaped: good to hear!
[12:42] <mooseshaped> the modem however I'm still battling with
[12:42] <waylandbill> Debian will get to this point in a while. Once they decide it's stable enough :-)
[12:42] <filthpig2> I have a problem with my d-link card
[12:43] <filthpig2> it's not even mine, really. it's my brother's
[12:43] <mooseshaped> hehe stable is so behind, tho it runs nicely for servers
[12:43] <filthpig2> :S
[12:43] <lupul> which is the command to find an app's process?
[12:43] <lupul> grep apt .....?
[12:43] <filthpig2> trying to convert my family to kubuntu, but not getting the wlan-card to work is not good for buisness
[12:44] <Jisao> maybe in 2008, waylandbill, lol.  Too bad, it's a good distro with a good philosophy
[12:44] <mooseshaped> ahh this is true filthpig I must admit I still run some M$ software via Citrix
[12:45] <mooseshaped> I'm yet to find anything which lets me into the an exchange server decently in Linux, I suspect I should get on and have a go myself
[12:45] <waylandbill> lupul: ps
[12:46] <Jisao> I am burning Kubuntu right now.  I will see if I have more success with it on my older PC than with Ubuntu.
[12:46] <mooseshaped> jiaso> xubuntu might be better for you if it's an older PC
[12:46] <mooseshaped> XFCE is a lot lighter than KDE
[12:47] <waylandbill> I agree with mooseshaped. Depending on how old is old.
[12:47] <Jisao> xfce is the mousy desktop
[12:47] <waylandbill> yeah. the mouse. :-D
[12:47] <Jisao> Pentium 500
[12:47] <eilker> !make
[12:47] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:47] <Jisao> :-(
[12:48] <__-osh-__> Anyone know anything about this (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/91399) bug? Is it critical? Does it kill my X or something else annoying?
[12:48] <mooseshaped> how much RAM jisao?
[12:48] <waylandbill> Jisao: I find it a little too lightweight for my tastes.
[12:48] <Jisao> 256M
[12:48] <Jisao> I prefer fluxbox if I am going to be minimal
[12:49] <Jisao> There we go.  Install of Kubuntu launched (after a successful md5sum check)
[12:49] <__-osh-__> Jisao: I am. A fan of the mouse. (As mouse could mean 'female genitalia' in my language.)     ;-)
[12:50] <lupul> ps what?
[12:50] <waylandbill> Jisao: that'll just about do! :)
[12:50] <waylandbill> [07:43:32]  <lupul> which is the command to find an app's process?
[12:51] <markus_> hallo, bin neu hier.
[12:51] <lupul> yes. it was something with grep? but i don't know more
[12:51] <Jisao> sprichst english, markus_ ?
[12:51] <markus_> yes i do..
[12:51] <Jisao> ok
[12:51] <lupul> an application's process
[12:51] <markus_> thanks jisao
[12:52] <waylandbill> lupul: ps ax | grep myApp
[12:52] <cvk77> !de | markus_
[12:52] <ubotu> markus_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:52] <Jisao> you're welcome
[12:52] <markus_> tks ubotu
[12:52] <lupul> k thanks
[12:53] <Jisao> not everybody is aware of bots,  cvk77
[12:53] <waylandbill> !bot
[12:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:54] <cvk77> Jisao: no offense meant, just making fun of something i did several times before
[12:54] <__-osh-__> cvk77: Besides, it's polite. Bots have feelings too you know.
[12:54] <Jisao> we are trying to figure out what runs such a bot to try to put one on #lbo
[12:54] <Jisao> I was not offended, cvk77.
[12:54] <waylandbill> Jisao: it's just a special irc client process.
[12:56] <waylandbill> Jisao: they are incredibly simple to write. Filling them with useful information is another issue. :-)
[12:56] <Jisao>  Yes, I have seen people go nuts on #kanotix with Sonya (their bot)
[12:58] <filthpig2> waylandbill: are you any good on networking?
[12:59] <spark_> hi
[12:59] <Jisao> I am a KDE fan anyway, waylandbill.  I
[12:59] <Jisao> hi space_ninja
[12:59] <Jisao> hi spark_
[12:59] <spark_> :)
[12:59] <waylandbill> filthpig2: I'm pretty good at it.
[12:59] <waylandbill> filthpig2: got a question?
[01:00] <filthpig> a device that SHOULD work with ndiswrapper, that is recognized by ndiswrapper, but is not recognized by kubuntu :S
[01:01] <filthpig> I've seen howtos that have fixed it for some people, but it does not work for me
[01:02] <__-osh-__> !console-setup
[01:02] <ubotu> console-setup: Setup the font and the keyboard on the console. In component main, is important. Version 1.7ubuntu19 (edgy), package size 409 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[01:02] <waylandbill> filthpig: do you have an /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ? does have an alias definition?
[01:03] <filthpig> waylandbill: ah, no
[01:03] <filthpig> how do I fix that? oO
[01:03] <manfred_> hi
[01:03] <filthpig> ah, nevermind, silly me
[01:04] <filthpig> yes, I have waylandbill
[01:04] <waylandbill> no, you don't have ndiswrapper there, or no it doesn't have an alias definition.
[01:04] <filthpig> alias wlan0 ndiswrapper is what it says
[01:04] <filthpig> I have both, sorry
[01:04] <waylandbill> filthpig: lsmod shows the ndiswrapper module loaded?
[01:04] <ab12> I have this problem with "sudo"
[01:04] <ab12> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:04] <ab12> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 19 12:40:19 2007
[01:05] <ab12> how can I fix this?
[01:05] <filthpig1> geez
[01:06] <filthpig1> got disconnected after typing "used by 0", if somebody said anything after that
[01:06] <filthpig1> and the powerled on the network card is not on
[01:07] <mooseshaped> any ideas on the connect strings I need to add to get the modem to see the dial tone in the UK?
[01:07] <waylandbill> filthpig: lsmod shows the ndiswrapper module loaded?
[01:07] <filthpig1> ndiswrapper -l gives "prisma02, driver loaded, hardware present" though
[01:07] <filthpig1> waylandbill: yes
[01:08] <filthpig1> HMM
[01:08] <waylandbill> ab12: sounds like the time clock drifted and was set back.
[01:08] <filthpig1> I noticed something: module "80211, used by 1, prism54common
[01:09] <hackdaddy> i'm on feisty
[01:09] <filthpig1> prism54usb is the default driver for the card, but it doesn't work :/
[01:10] <hackdaddy> and i had to kill the adept process, but now i can't resume the upgrade cuz another process has it locked, what do i do?
[01:10] <waylandbill> filthpig: I had the same problem with my bcm4318. The supplied driver didn't work, but another one from a link in the forums did.
[01:10] <waylandbill> hackdaddy: it gave the name of the lock file, delete it.
[01:11] <hackdaddy> not on feisty, it doesn't display the locked file name
[01:11] <rob_> maybe restart the X server
[01:11] <ab12> well I am fu***
[01:12] <ab12> how can I set time back if I can't use sudo
[01:12] <ab12> :s
[01:12] <ab12> oh my
[01:12] <waylandbill> ok. use the command line to 'apt-get update' and it will.
[01:12] <hackdaddy> waylandbill, it says database locked, ok, will do
[01:12] <waylandbill> ab12. bios setup utility can set the clock maybe.
[01:13] <shng007> hello all
[01:13] <rob_> im tryin to get Xfce on kubuntu, installed ubuntu-desktop and xbuntu-desktop but when i log into them there is nothing there
[01:13] <Jisao> hi shng007
[01:13] <ubuntu> hi
[01:14] <hackdaddy> thanks, waylandbill, that worked
[01:14] <waylandbill> hackdaddy: good
[01:14] <Jisao> hi ubuntu
[01:15] <hackdaddy> i had to run: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to fix iiit
[01:15] <Filthpig666> GEEZ
[01:15] <shng007> someone know where is root folder of apache2 after installation?
[01:15] <waylandbill> rob_: does the desktop load for a xfce4 session??
[01:15] <Filthpig666> I got disconnected all the time with the opera client, so I had to install mirc :P
[01:16] <rob_> yes but no task bar or anything
[01:16] <waylandbill> shng007: it should be in the apache config file.
[01:16] <mooseshaped>  /var/www/html I believe usually shng007
[01:16] <Filthpig666> last thing I posted and saw was the forum link
[01:17] <shng007> ah i found it ! /var/www :D
[01:17] <shng007> 10x
[01:17] <Filthpig666> waylandbill, would you mind trying to find the forumpost that helped you?
[01:17] <Filthpig666> getting desperate here :S
[01:18] <waylandbill> filthpig: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&page=116
[01:19] <waylandbill> filthpig: not sure if that'll help since you have a different card FWIW
[01:20] <rob_> im usin adept manager to install the ubuntu desktop now, hopefully that'll sort it, back after a while
[01:21] <ab12> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 19 12:40:19 2007   how can I fix tthis??? I can't use sudo aaaaaaaaaaa
[01:22] <waylandbill> ab12: the time has to be different than Mar 19 12:40:19. That's the same time you posted previously.
[01:23] <waylandbill> ab12: or is it still giving that time in the error?
[01:23] <waylandbill> ab12: what time does your clock say now?
[01:23] <marton> Pls help me! I can't enable the WiFi. Maybe it can be a driver problem.
[01:24] <Jisao> Hummm, this install stalls at 6% of the installation, just like Ubuntu did.  Wonder what happens at 6%?
[01:24] <waylandbill> marton: what card is it? have you checked the wiki to see if there is instructions for it?
[01:24] <ab12> waylandbill: it's the same everytime that returnes error
[01:24] <Filthpig666> marton: what card?
[01:24] <waylandbill> Jisao: don't know. you could try the alternate install CD.
[01:24] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[01:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:24] <marton> It is in an Asus notebook A6R. I don't know.
[01:25] <waylandbill> ab12: that's gotta be the date/time that the last sudo command was used. Is that far in the future?
[01:25] <ab12> no
[01:26] <waylandbill> mariusk: lspci will tell.
[01:26] <ab12> now its' 13:26
[01:26] <ab12> and the error is 12:40:19
[01:26] <waylandbill> ab12:  at that time, it'll fix itself. Is it Mar 19th there?
[01:26] <ab12> no..
[01:26] <ab12> it's Mar 18th
[01:27] <waylandbill> ab12: that's your problem. It will fix itself tomorrow. :-)
[01:27] <Jisao> well, waylandbill, I switched to TTY 4 to see what happens.
[01:27] <ab12> so I can't use sudo untill tommorow??
[01:27] <Filthpig666> ab12:
[01:27] <Filthpig666> erh
[01:27] <Filthpig666> nevermind
[01:28] <waylandbill> ab12: you can use the install CD in recovery mode and remove sudo's timestamp I think
[01:28] <waylandbill> ab12: did you change the date, or did something else is the real issue
[01:28] <ab12> I change the date
[01:29] <waylandbill> ok. let me figure out where the sudo timestamp is stored. :-)
[01:29] <ab12> and I tryed to set my area in my time zone
[01:29] <Filthpig666> waylandbill: since ndiswrapper can see the card, can I somehow manually hook it up with a network device name and "force" it to work?
[01:29] <Filthpig666> poor waylandbill has to help everybody :p
[01:30] <waylandbill> Filthpig666: if it's working properly, you'll have a wlan0 in ifconfig.
[01:30] <waylandbill> Filthpig666: otherwise it aint gonna be much good.
[01:30] <Filthpig666> that's what I'm not having
[01:30] <Filthpig666> :[
[01:31] <Filthpig666> I'm so sure it's just a minor detail that has to be fixed
[01:31] <Filthpig666> I wonder if it'll work with edgy
[01:31] <Filthpig666> using fiesty atm
[01:31] <Filthpig666> feisty*
[01:31] <shng007> how to run konqueror as root?
[01:32] <Jisao> Are you sure it's not a bug with Feisty, Filthpig666?  This is still beta software.
[01:32] <rob_> i couldnt get wireless to work on fiesty with my RT2500 :S
[01:32] <ab12> so my solution here is to use live cd and boot it and remove timstamp?
[01:32] <Jisao> open a terminal, and sudo konqueror, shng007
[01:32] <waylandbill> ab12: that would be a way to fix it, yes.
[01:33] <ab12> or to wait one day?
[01:33] <markus_> pls help, how to go to kubuntu .de ??
[01:33] <marton> :( aaaaahh. Can anybody tell me where can I find Asus a6r notebook drivers for Linux? Or how does it work? (The driver "installing".)
[01:33] <shng007> jisao 10x
[01:33] <Jisao>  /join #kubuntu-de, markus_
[01:33] <waylandbill> ab12: look here: http://my.opera.com/render/blog/show.dml/337121
[01:34] <Filthpig1> hm, maybe it's the windoze firewall that keeps disconnecting me :s
[01:34] <Filthpig1> hm
[01:34] <waylandbill> marton: did you get the name of the card via 'lspci' yet?
[01:35] <marton> What? :)
[01:35] <shadowhywind> hi all, where are power options at.. like after 3 hours go on standy by or something?
[01:35] <marton> Where can I look it? :S
[01:35] <waylandbill> open a konsole, type lspci and find what the wireless card is
[01:36] <marton> Ok. Thx.
[01:36] <Filthpig1> hm
[01:36] <Filthpig1> I'll try rebooting the computer with the sabayon live cd
[01:36] <Filthpig1> maybe it'll work there
[01:36] <Filthpig1> then I can check what makes it work :)
[01:37] <ziyun> At the beginning  for me it is best to be a silent person and learn by myself about Kubuntu. Wish everyone best!
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[01:38] <waylandbill> shadowhywind: some bios setups have power options
[01:38] <angela> openoffice sucks
[01:38] <ab12> Ok I managed to login with root acc
[01:39] <ab12> in console..
[01:39] <shadowhywind> waylandbill mine don't, looked yesterday
[01:39] <earl_> hey fellas - i have what is probably a stupid question
[01:39] <ab12> how can I set date and time in console?
[01:39] <earl_> is there any sort of linux-based OS that runs on a pocket PC?
[01:39] <HymnToLife> ab12, date
[01:39] <shadowhywind> this is just werid. I went to bed, and about 2 hours later my computer shutdown. I start up today, it brings it out of hibernate with 10% of my battery left
[01:39] <HymnToLife> earl_, if it's x86 based, any Linux will run
[01:39] <shadowhywind> and no i did not have a power failure last night
[01:40] <kukost> cheers again, filthpig here
[01:40] <earl_> I think it runs on an ARM, that's not x86 is it?
[01:40] <kukost> waylandbill, are you in the development team of (k)ubuntu?
[01:40] <waylandbill> shadowhywind: is the ac adapter ok?
[01:40] <shadowhywind> yah
[01:40] <shng007> hey, ppls, i love kubuntu XD
[01:41] <waylandbill> kukost: no. I haven't developed anything for kubuntu. I've done work on other projects though.
[01:41] <shadowhywind> thats why i want to find some power options, if there are any
[01:41] <marton> Waylandbill: Im' fully beginner in linux. :) Where can i find the Console? :) In kubuntu. :S
[01:41] <shadowhywind> and the only ones that i am finding is if the battery time drops to X or if th elaptop lid is cloded do Y
[01:41] <waylandbill> shadowhywind: if your battery was at 10% or so, then the system didn't have power. Its pretty simple.
[01:42] <waylandbill> marton; K menu, system, konsole
[01:42] <shadowhywind> waylandbill i know it might sound funny, But i am thinking that somehow it went into stand by, and the standyby took the power from the battery
[01:42] <marton> If found yet :) but
[01:43] <waylandbill> shadowhywind: not if there was ac power it wouldn't.
[01:43] <waylandbill> shadowhywind: or shouldn't. :-)
[01:43] <marton> I typed "ispci" and it says command not found
[01:43] <waylandbill> marton: not i ... l   lspci
[01:43] <Jisao> l like in Linux, marton lspci
[01:43] <n33o> Im trying to configure network to work on ubuntu.. i have an internet connection with wireless ISP coming down from the roof on 10/100 cable.. (which i am talking to you on now) When i plugin the cable to my XP laptop all is fine.. but when i plugin to ethernet port on Netwrkcard on pc its not giving me access to webpages etc.. even when i have put in all the settings .. IP gateway .. dns etc.?? can anyone help wiht this?
[01:43] <waylandbill> mariusk: lower case L
[01:43] <marton> :ohh
[01:44] <shadowhywind> waylandbill would there be some log somewhere if it went into standby or hibernate or switch to battery?
[01:44] <marton> Ispci <enter>. not found,,, :(
[01:44] <waylandbill> n33o: they don't offer dhcp address?
[01:44] <n33o> its set to static because it works better
[01:45] <waylandbill> shadowhywind: I'm not sure if that's in the syslog or not.
[01:45] <n33o> had pppoe .. terrible
[01:45] <Jisao> LSPCI all in lowercase, marton
[01:45] <marton> :) aaaah
[01:46] <waylandbill> n33o: something isn't right in the address setup maybe? are you able to do an nslookup or ping a site?
[01:46] <shadowhywind> hehe, looking threw the dmesg, i found a line Freezeing cpus... cpu1 is now offline.. stopping tasks
[01:46] <n33o> its wierd
[01:46] <shadowhywind> oh and my favoriate line, Thawing cpus....
[01:46] <marton> 02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.                            11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[01:46] <waylandbill> kukost: why do you ask BTW?
[01:46] <n33o> when i use the default static ip they gave me .. the pc acts as if its "thinking"
[01:46] <waylandbill> marton: same card as me. Let me give you a link.
[01:47] <n33o> (when i try to access google)
[01:47] <marton> Thank You!
[01:47] <filthpig2> hmsk
[01:47] <waylandbill> n33o: but knowing if you can nslookup names, or ping sites would be fundamental.
[01:47] <filthpig2> this is getting annoying :S
[01:47] <n33o> yes
[01:47] <n33o> Im pretty new to linxu
[01:47] <n33o> *linux
[01:48] <waylandbill> marton: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&page=116
[01:48] <n33o> could you help me with how to set this up.. do ping etc... I tried pinging using terminal or something .. but it KEEPS PINGING!
[01:48] <n33o> and i diddnt get a response last time
[01:48] <n33o> going to get broadband router on monday
[01:48] <waylandbill> n33o: ctrl-c stops it from continually pinging.
[01:48] <n33o> what should i do in the meantime though.. i want to update ubuntu
[01:49] <n33o> oh.. thanks man!
[01:49] <waylandbill> n33o: then you'll be able to use dhcp from the router then. :)
[01:49] <n33o> yes .. then i will.
[01:49] <waylandbill> n33o: did the pings succeed?
[01:49] <n33o> but i hope to try get connection working to update ubuntu before then
[01:49] <n33o> im using the connection to talk to you now..
[01:49] <yacoob> which kde version will be in feisty?
[01:49] <n33o> i will need to disconnect and reconnect to test.. im using XP laptop at the moment
[01:50] <n33o> what program do i use to ping?
[01:50] <waylandbill> n33o: oh. ok.
[01:50] <waylandbill> ping
[01:50] <waylandbill> :)
[01:50] <n33o> applications > accessories > terminal?
[01:50] <waylandbill> !feisty | yacoob
[01:50] <ubotu> yacoob: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:50] <n33o> my ethernet card says ETH0
[01:50] <Jucato> yacoob: KDE 3.5.6
[01:51] <waylandbill> n33o: you know this is the kubuntu channel?
[01:51] <n33o> yes.. but you are being more helpful than the other channel
[01:51] <n33o> :-(
[01:51] <n33o> :-)
[01:51] <Jisao> roflolstca
[01:51] <waylandbill> n33o: LOL
[01:52] <n33o> For DNS servers .. I have 10.9.0.3 / 4
[01:52] <n33o> hosts has a bunch of IP6 stuff
[01:52] <n33o> is this correct?
[01:52] <waylandbill> they would know more than I would about ubuntu, but yes. terminal is what you want. :-)
[01:52] <n33o> shouldnt it be ip4?
[01:52] <Rome> excuse me, i am extremly new to unix enviroment and i just installed my kubuntu version. I am trying now to install firefox.. I downloaded it and unpacked it. What is the next step? Checked there website it does not say anything
[01:53] <Jisao> don't install it like that, Rome.
[01:53] <waylandbill> n33o: if you set one statically it should.
[01:53] <Beeema> rome why don't you install firefox with apt-get or adept?
[01:53] <Jisao> sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:53] <morvok> Rome: pat-get install firefox
[01:53] <waylandbill> !apt | Rome
[01:53] <ubotu> Rome: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:53] <n33o> can i type ping www.google.com in terminal?
[01:53] <Jisao> in a terminal, Rome
[01:53] <morvok> ack
[01:53] <Rome> Perfect. Thank you guys
[01:53] <n33o> will that work?
[01:53] <Beeema> why don't you try it n33o
[01:54] <waylandbill> n33o: I think google will respond to pings.
[01:54] <waylandbill> or yahoo even. :)
[01:54] <n33o> Beeema.. because i have to disconnect from this channel.. first to try
[01:54] <n33o> so to save timem just ask
[01:54] <waylandbill> n33o: I just tried. google responds to pings. And you do know that windows has ping too?
[01:55] <shng007> someone know why my apache don't read php files?
[01:55] <waylandbill> shng007: missing mod-php and setup probably
[01:56] <shng007> ill try it
[01:57] <shng007> the php mod..
[01:57] <waylandbill> shng007: libapache-mod  search for that in apt
[01:57] <waylandbill> there's a php4 and php5
[01:58] <beta_> can you get GIMPshop via apt?
[01:59] <Jucato> beta_: not from Ubuntu's repositories
[01:59] <n33o_> so .. PING diddnt work.
[01:59] <beta_> Jucato: which repo do i need?
[02:00] <beta_> being the noob iam i assume there shouldnt be any stability problems with it or anything since its gimp basically?
[02:00] <ziyun_> thanks a lot
[02:00] <marton> Ok. Where is the PackageManager? Sorry.. :)
[02:00] <Jucato> beta_: I don't know. I don't use it. all I know is that gimpshop isn't in Ubuntu's repositories... might have to search for others
[02:00] <beta_> ok thx
[02:00] <n33o_> can anyone help wiht internet problem?
[02:03] <waylandbill> n33o_: did it at least resolve the address?
[02:04] <n33o_> no..
[02:04] <n33o_> it just thinks
[02:04] <n33o_> ...
[02:04] <n33o_> ....
[02:04] <n33o_> ...
[02:04] <n33o_> but doesnt say anything
[02:04] <n33o_> like its trying .. but just cant.. kind of like a blocked pipe..
[02:04] <waylandbill> n33o_: PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[02:04] <n33o_> ok
[02:04] <waylandbill> n33o_: the first thing is it needs to know google is 64.233.167.99
[02:05] <waylandbill> if you don't get that then dns is not right
[02:05] <beta_> Jucato: ok asking the obvious is there a resource anywhere that lists all repos and lets you search their packages?
[02:07] <waylandbill> beta_: http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/
[02:07] <shng007> whats the command to restart apache??
[02:07] <n33o__> says: bash: syntax error near unexpected token '( '
[02:08] <waylandbill> n33o: no don't type what I pasted. I showed you what the first line of output should look like.
[02:08] <n33o> uh..
[02:08] <n33o> what should i type?
[02:09] <n33o> because when i type ping www.google.com
[02:09] <n33o> it gives me nothing.
[02:09] <waylandbill> you said that it did not resolve the name. google.com is (64.233.167.99)
[02:09] <Rome> Does anyone know why when i try to download with ktorrent, it says "stalled" ? its not working
[02:09] <n33o> it just stays there after i press enter
[02:09] <waylandbill> nslookup google.com should give you that. If not, your dns settings are incorrect.
[02:09] <n33o> doesnt show ping replies or pinging or anything
[02:10] <n33o> im using the same dns settings as on laptop
[02:10] <n33o> which im talking to you on now
[02:10] <beta_> waylandbill: ok, too complicated for my current abilities  thx nontheless
[02:10] <n33o> waylandbill, 10.9.0.3
[02:10] <n33o> ?
[02:10] <waylandbill> n33o: do an nslookup for google.com and then paste what it said.
[02:10] <n33o> is what is on my laptop
[02:10] <n33o> how do i do an ns lookup?
[02:11] <waylandbill> nslookup google.com   :-)
[02:11] <n33o> thanks.. brb
[02:11] <waylandbill> !pastebin | n330
[02:11] <ubotu> n330: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:12] <Rome> anyone knows why ktorrent is not working for me? the torrentfiles is not downloading. it just says: "Stalled".. Any idea?
[02:13] <n33o__> waylandbill, it says.. ;;  connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[02:13] <n33o__> but the connectioin IS working .. or i woulnet be talking to you guys
[02:14] <waylandbill> n33o__: if you can't look up names, the connection is pretty useless. Unless you know everyone's ip number. :-)
[02:14] <n33o> yes.. however .. it is working.. because i can use dns on my laptop
[02:15] <waylandbill> n33o: you get that working.
[02:15] <n33o> which im using now
[02:15] <n33o> on XP
[02:15] <n33o> get what working?
[02:15] <waylandbill> n33o: the dns info under linux. you need to get that working.
[02:15] <filthpig> firewall?
[02:15] <n33o> hmm
[02:15] <n33o> so it is connected to the network.. but dns isnt working under linux?
[02:15] <n33o> why wouldnt it be working
[02:15] <waylandbill> n33o: yes
[02:16] <morvok> hrm.. someone knicked my TNT2.. not good.
[02:16] <n33o> I have two dns set up
[02:16] <waylandbill> n33o: I can't tell you what the correct info to put in there, only your ISP can.
[02:16] <n33o> yes i have already put it in
[02:17] <waylandbill> n33o: could be your gateway isn't right and no letting you reach those servers.
[02:17] <n33o> gateway is: same as XP
[02:17] <n33o> which im talking to you on now
[02:17] <waylandbill> n33o: it's a fundamental issue of some sort, most likely incorrect configuration.
[02:17] <morvok> n330: have you checked the Linux boxeds numbers against the XP box numbers?
[02:18] <n33o> box numbers????
[02:18] <n33o> where are those?
[02:18] <n33o> oh
[02:18] <n33o> you mean ips etc
[02:18] <n33o> yes
[02:18] <n33o> the same
[02:18] <morvok> yeah.
[02:18] <n33o> exactly the same settings
[02:19] <morvok> n33o: just the dns isn't working?
[02:19] <morvok> *scrolls*
[02:19] <n33o> The dns said timed out when i did dns lookup
[02:19] <n33o> the pings never returned anything from the sites
[02:19] <n33o> wehen i pinged google
[02:20] <waylandbill> n33o: can you ping google's address?
[02:20] <n33o> no
[02:20] <n33o> I can but it doesnt do anything
[02:20] <waylandbill> no. not google.com, but their actual ip
[02:20] <n33o> how do i do that
[02:20] <bigdad1e> how can i get my comp. to see my camera?
[02:20] <n33o> ping 192.000 etc.
[02:20] <morvok> n33o: it just says nothing? not even 'no route to host'?
[02:21] <waylandbill> n33o: do ping 72.14.207.99
[02:21] <n33o> maby if i wait a bit more ..
[02:21] <n33o> is that google?
[02:21] <waylandbill> n33o: it is as of this second. :-)
[02:21] <n33o> oh
[02:21] <n33o> lol
[02:21] <n33o> brb
[02:22] <bigdad1e> can someone help me get my comp so see my camera? or sd card?
[02:22] <Dr_willis> what kind of camera.. and how are yoyu trying to see the card.
[02:22] <n33o> nb.. that ip has reached redirection limit
[02:22] <bigdad1e> canon powershot a540
[02:23] <shng007> i've enabled php5 but now there is another error in my installation of my website
[02:23] <shng007> Loading php_gd2.dll Falied!
[02:23] <shng007> Please Enable php_gd2.dll in ur php.ini
[02:23] <bigdad1e> im trying to see the pictures anyway i can
[02:23] <bigdad1e> my comp has a built in sd reader but its not working
[02:23] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  we trying todo 2 things at once? or are you trying to access your cameras SD card?
[02:24] <bigdad1e> no
[02:24] <Dr_willis> no to which part. :)
[02:24] <bigdad1e> i tryed to access the sd card that didnt work i tryed to see the camera
[02:25] <bigdad1e> it doesnt even see the cam when i do lsusb in konsole
[02:25] <bigdad1e> ive read all forums and none have helped me
[02:25] <Dr_willis> ok. lets start with the sd card. its a normal 'fat32' formated sd card?
[02:26] <shadowhywind> .join #nvidia
[02:26] <shadowhywind> doh!
[02:26] <waylandbill> n33o: it doesn't have to be that address. try any address from the net.
[02:26] <bigdad1e> fat32?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  normal windows formated card
[02:26] <shadowhywind> why do they have to be so clsoe to each other *snickers
[02:26] <bigdad1e> just a 2gb scandisk
[02:26] <bigdad1e> most likely
[02:27] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  right.. and youve done nothing special to it.. now what aer you plugging it into to read the card?
[02:27] <waylandbill> n33o: ping under windows to get the address and then try under linux pinging to that same ip address. This will tell you if you even have a route to the net.
[02:27] <bigdad1e> my sd reader thats built into my comp
[02:27] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  and this is a laptop?
[02:27] <bigdad1e> no desktop
[02:27] <nagyv> Dr_willis: like two versions before I could access my camera only with digikam, and not with gwenview, before it worked only from the command line (there was a good article on the O'Reilly network). It can happen that bigdad1e has a similar problem. (Sorry, but right now I don't have time to go through all this with bigdad1e, but I hope I could help.)
[02:27] <Dr_willis> hmm.. thee goes my line of thinking then.. so its going into a USB MEDIA reader?
[02:27] <bigdad1e> no, desktop*
[02:28] <n33o__> ok
[02:28] <nagyv> Dr_willis: but of course, this was not an SD reader, but a camera connected directly
[02:28] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  the media reader is plugging into SOMTHING. :) most likely its an internal usb media reader  connected to an internal usb conector
[02:28] <n33o__> It says: 10 packets transmitted, 0 recieved, +6 errors, 100% packet loss, time 9000 ms , pipe 3
[02:28] <bigdad1e> yes
[02:29] <Dr_willis> which is odd.  use 'dmesg' to see if the card is seen as you plug/unplug it.
[02:29] <n33o__> destination host unreachable
[02:29] <n33o__> Dr willis are you speaking to me?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> n33o__,  not at all. :)
[02:30] <waylandbill> n33o__: see. you have no route out to the net. Your configuration must not be right.
[02:30] <bigdad1e> dr willis, what would it say?
[02:30] <bigdad1e> dmesg
[02:30] <n33o> yes.. how can i fix this.. because it works on my XP laptop im using now.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  it should mention some SD## device for the card at the end.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> 'works on xp' means very little. :)
[02:30] <Dr_willis> other then to show the problem is not hardware related.
[02:30] <n33o> yeah
[02:31] <Dr_willis> n33o,  this is a wireless network?
[02:31] <n33o> doesn anyone know how i can troubleshoot my netowrk
[02:31] <n33o> the network is cable
[02:31] <n33o> in the house
[02:31] <bigdad1e> all fats-failed, sde-4=2gbs?
[02:31] <bigdad1e> 4 scsi-sde 512mbs a piece
[02:31] <pzler> i'm now running xubuntu, what files do i need to download to get a full kubuntu aswell?
[02:31] <n33o> there is a wireless antenna on the roof connecting to wireless ISP but local in house network is 10/100 cables
[02:31] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  thats an interesting message. it seems confused about that card for some reason.
[02:32] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  try 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sde'
[02:32] <waylandbill> n33o: just because it works on windows doesn't mean the configuration under linux is correct.
[02:32] <n33o> waylandbill, how can i fix this?
[02:32] <bigdad1e> 2032mbs \
[02:32] <bigdad1e> its there
[02:33] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  that fdisk command shows sde and a partition on it?
[02:33] <beta_> how do i launch a java .jar when im in a different folder?
[02:33] <bigdad1e> ya
[02:33] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  then you 'should' be able to mount  the sde1 device some where
[02:34] <beta_> java -jar program.jar [directory path]  ?
[02:34] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  with a command similer to...
[02:34] <waylandbill> n33o: why again don't you use dhcp addressing?
[02:34] <jermain> quick question: I'm learning C++, what would be a good compiler to install?
[02:34] <n33o> because ISP has assigned static IP to me
[02:34] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,     sudo mkdir /media/sde1
[02:34] <n33o> Only my static ip will give me internet access
[02:34] <n33o> it seems
[02:34] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,     sudo mount /dev/sde1 /media/sde1
[02:34] <waylandbill> n33o: then a router will help
[02:34] <n33o> yes it will
[02:34] <Dr_willis> that mount command may need work.. it may need a -t option.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[02:35] <n33o> but i need to update linux so i can get a tv card working
[02:35] <bigdad1e> didnt work
[02:35] <n33o> cant update without internet access
[02:35] <n33o> want to run myth tv
[02:35] <n33o> then broadcast out to the web
[02:35] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  try  sudo mount /dev/sde1 /mnt/sde1 -t vfat
[02:36] <bigdad1e> does not exist
[02:36] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  yoyu need to be a little MORE verbose in whats going on.
[02:36] <waylandbill> n33o: if you're getting a router monday, then you only have to wait one day. :-)
[02:36] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  you did make the directory like i mentioned?
[02:36] <bigdad1e> what directory?
[02:36] <Dr_willis> sudo mkdir /media/sde1
[02:36] <Beeema> wah modems suck
[02:36] <Dr_willis> like i said earlier. :)
[02:36] <n33o> yeah..
[02:37] <n33o> do you think it will work?
[02:37] <n33o> I mean.. do i need to configure the router also?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  sudo mkdir /media/sde1     then sudo mount /dev/sde1 /mnt/sde1 -t vfat
[02:37] <Dr_willis> n33o,  the static ip - goes to the router.. the linux machine then 'should' gets its own internal ip from the router
[02:37] <Dr_willis> n33o,  unless you giot a real odd system
[02:37] <leighton> anyboby knows why the make command is not installed on kubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:37] <waylandbill> n330: yes. you'll just need to configure the router's ip and then the PCs will use dhcp to the router
[02:37] <bigdad1e> cannot creat directory  "/media/sde1' file exists
[02:37] <Dr_willis> leighton,  none of the C stuff iis installed
[02:38] <n33o> but .. how does the router know what the static ip is?
[02:38] <n33o> hmm
[02:38] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  do it exists.. ok. now try the miount command
[02:38] <n33o> wonders how to configure router
[02:38] <Dr_willis> n33o,  it gets it from the dhcp server of the isp. OR you tell it.
[02:38] <waylandbill> n33o: the one that your ISP provides.
[02:38] <leighton> dr how do i install the c stuff ?
[02:38] <bigdad1e> invalid option
[02:38] <Dr_willis> leighton,  thats such a FAQ. :) install the build-essential package for a start
[02:38] <waylandbill> n33o: routers are fairly easy to configure. They come with instructions and default to dhcp on.
[02:38] <morvok> leighton: sudo: apt-get install gcc make
[02:39] <leighton> thanks very helpful
[02:39] <waylandbill> n33o: so you'll just need to set it to your isp's assigned address and you'll be good to go
[02:39] <leighton> new to this come from mac osx
[02:40] <Dr_willis> leighton,  fire up the package manager. search for the build-essential package
[02:40] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  so what is the exact command you are using?
[02:40] <leighton> thanks dr
[02:41] <bigdad1e> i dont know i just lost myself
[02:41] <bigdad1e> ok mount point does not exist
[02:41] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  hmm..  you must be making a typo then.. if you allready made that dir.
[02:41] <bigdad1e> i did "sudo mount /dev/sde1 /mnt/sde1 -t vfat" and nothing happen
[02:41] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  aha.. :)
[02:41] <sebbar> hi, is it normal not to have a shutdown splash in kubuntu feisty yet?
[02:42] <bigdad1e> it said mount point does not exist
[02:42] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  we want /media/sde1 i bet.,
[02:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:42] <shng007> someone who know where is the apache2 PHP.ini File??
[02:42] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  used to be everything got mounted to /mnt/ now its /media/
[02:42] <bigdad1e> already mounted
[02:42] <Dr_willis> if its allready mounted.. use a ls /media/sde1 and see whaats there.
[02:42] <kubuntu> qualcuno mi sa dire come fare e mettere i permessi per una partizione windows ntfs?
[02:42] <bigdad1e> according to mtab yes
[02:42] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  we ,maybe having an issue where your USERS cant access the thing.
[02:43] <bigdad1e> im the admin
[02:43] <waylandbill> shng007: search for it in konqueror or with locate.
[02:43] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  try sudo ls -l /media/sde1
[02:43] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  you dident log into X as the admin/root however.
[02:43] <maki> where can i find the repositories for feasty
[02:43] <bigdad1e> no i didnt
[02:43] <maki> i have it now
[02:43] <maki> but they are a mess
[02:44] <bigdad1e> 3 bigdad1e #### dcim then 2 bigdad1e same##### misc
[02:44] <Dr_willis> ubuntu has always had a bit of an issue with auto-setting up the windows drives and stuff where users could use them fully (a bit of a security paranoia feature)
[02:44] <bigdad1e> total 64
[02:44] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  its mounted then.  now as a 'user' see if you can access /media/sde1
[02:44] <shng007> waylandbill: how to search it?
[02:45] <bigdad1e> what command do i do?
[02:45] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  use the konquerorer. or open up another konsole tab. :)
[02:45] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  the pics 'should' be in /media/hde1/dcim  (i think)
[02:46] <bigdad1e> ok
[02:46] <shng007> i found it!
[02:46] <bigdad1e> i can see the card in konquerorer but i cant see any pics
[02:48] <bigdad1e> nevermind Dr willis i did it
[02:49] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e, oh?
[02:49] <bigdad1e> thank you for all your help i apreciate it very much
[02:49] <bigdad1e> i had to preview in gview
[02:49] <bigdad1e> gwenview*
[02:49] <Dr_willis> bigdad1e,  one of these days ya may want to read up on mounting linux drives.  it pays to learn how that funamental stuff works. for emergfancies like this
[02:49] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[02:49] <Dr_willis> is worth reading some time.
[02:50] <bigdad1e> thank you for your time u guide me through the job everytime perfect
[02:50] <bigdad1e> your great
[02:51] <Dr_willis> yea - if there was a  Linux 101 course..Mounting of drives would be on day 2 i think. :)
[02:51] <Dr_willis> well i will bbl perhaps. take care
[02:53] <morvok> this sucks, it took a day to get rivatv to compile.. and know my card that supports video-in is missing.
[02:55] <wrhowc> hello
[02:55] <morvok> hi
[02:56] <wrhowc> um do you know how to install applet on kubuntu?
[02:56] <angela> do i risk breaking my system if i try to upgrade to feisty?
[02:57] <angela> in the sense of a unrecoverable system
[02:57] <morvok> angela: I don't think its stable yet
[02:57] <angela> morvok: its still alpha phase
[02:57] <wrhowc> ktechlab?
[02:58] <angela> but i would love to help test it, i am a good bug catcher and can see things into great detail
[02:58] <wrhowc> elow i need to instal ktechlab on kubuntu
[02:58] <morvok> angela: that means it buggy.. if you want to try it I would suggest installing it on a seperate parition than mount your data
[02:59] <morvok> angela: than you can bug test and when you need a stable system you can just reboot :)
[03:01] <wrhowc> can i ask something
[03:01] <Jucato> !ask
[03:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:02] <wrhowc> ok
[03:02] <wrhowc> how do i install ktechlab on my kubuntu
[03:02] <wrhowc> im new in linux so for start how do i install any aplication
[03:03] <Jucato> wrhowc: look for ktechlab in Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager (they're in the K Menu).
[03:03] <kubuntu__> ciao
[03:04] <wrhowc> ok thanks
[03:04] <wrhowc> what oabou any aplication i download it form the net
[03:04] <wrhowc> about*
[03:05] <Jucato> wrhowc: well that depends. You normally don't have to do that, as the repositories (online collection of installable programs) contain most apps already.
[03:05] <wrhowc> ok thanks
[03:05] <wrhowc> i find some of them on add/remove packige meneger
[03:06] <wrhowc> i switched from windows to linux
[03:06] <wrhowc> and it' great
[03:06] <Jucato> wrhowc: you might want to take a look at these pages to give you an idea on installing programs in Kubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[03:06] <xushi> Jucato: got any links on how to install nvidia drivers in kubuntu ?
[03:08] <angela> hey whats the main differences between synaptic and adept? is adept the advanced package manager for kde while synaptic is for gnome?
[03:08] <wrhowc> i have nvidia 7300 gs and i didn't have to instal driver it's working perfect
[03:08] <Jucato> xushi: usually "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-generic" (if you're on Edgy and later). then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart X
[03:08] <xushi> thanks Jucato. Are the nvidia drivers stable on amd64 ?
[03:08] <Jucato> oh... that I don't know
[03:08] <wrhowc> yes runing on amd 3800+
[03:08] <xushi> good =] 
[03:09] <wrhowc> as far i know
[03:09] <wrhowc> it works great for me
[03:09] <xushi> and wrhowc, i was refering to the 3d accelerated drivers, not the open source ones. Because i need the power
[03:09] <Jucato> wrhowc: the proprietary/binary nvidia drivers are only needed if you want/need 3D hardware acceleration. if not, the free/open source driver (nv) will work
[03:09] <marton> anybody has Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)?
[03:10] <wrhowc> i question
[03:10] <wrhowc> how do i create server
[03:10] <wrhowc> oh forget that
[03:10] <wrhowc> i just want to ask
[03:10] <wrhowc> how do i use windows aprtitioned discs
[03:11] <wrhowc> partitioned*
[03:11] <wrhowc> i run windows and linux
[03:11] <filthpig> are 3Coms usb wireless cards nicely supported with linux?
[03:11] <wrhowc> and with linux i can't write files on win partitions
[03:11] <filthpig> wrhowc: which version are you using?
[03:11] <Jucato> wrhowc: you really can't/shouldn't write on NTFS partitions
[03:12] <Jucato> !fat32
[03:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[03:12] <wrhowc> tnx
[03:12] <filthpig> Jucato: nonsense, the ntfs-3g driver has full rw support
[03:12] <wrhowc> oh that's bad
[03:12] <wrhowc> i can see what is on disc listen music but i can't save there
[03:12] <Jucato> filthpig: yes, but he'll have to install it. I'm talking about default stuff
[03:13] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[03:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:13] <wrhowc> ok i have the last verison of kubuntu so i use edgy
[03:15] <Jucato> filthpig, wrhowc: although the stable version of ntfs-3g (1.0) is only available in Feisty (to be released next month)
[03:15] <wrhowc> i found something on adapt and i am testing it
[03:16] <angela> damn anyone know what is wrong with openoffice2 its so slow,bloated, it randomly hangs when working with large documents or using find/replace function and now koffice kword is acting strange and slow too
[03:17] <angela> both have the interface buttons and everything erased
[03:18] <razor__> question: i have 3 packages in Adept Manager that i ~do not~ want to update/upgrade. how do i tell Adept Manager to stop telling me i have packages to update for these 3?
[03:18] <RealisticDragon> hey guys
[03:18] <angela> right now kword sits there loading a document(you cant see anything its doing because the buttons and text area dissapeared) for 10 minutes
[03:19] <RealisticDragon> angela: both kword and openoffice are having problems? kword is part of koffice not open office
[03:19] <executer> hi all
[03:19] <executer> :)
[03:19] <executer> cn i ask u something
[03:19] <executer> :)
[03:19] <executer> about dc++
[03:19] <RealisticDragon> sure executer
[03:19] <angela> is there a decent and lightweight office suite for linux ?
[03:19] <angela> that actually works
[03:19] <RealisticDragon> do you need word compatibility?
[03:19] <angela> RealisticDragon: i know they are different suites but both work bad
[03:19] <angela> or  dont work at all
[03:20] <angela> i dont need ms compatibility
[03:20] <RealisticDragon> i hear good things about google office, and abiword is pretty good (but i dont know how well the word import works)... personally i use open office and/or latex but i have a fast machine :o
[03:20] <executer> cn smone give mi debian pack of working dc++ client for kubunto linux :)
[03:20] <executer> am very new xD
[03:20] <RealisticDragon> executer: have you checked the dc++ website? im afraid i havent used DC++ in years, but i think theres a client
[03:20] <angela> well my machine is not too slow either.. 1.8ghz p4, 512 ddram, 128mb radeon 9550 that should be enough to keep those office suites in shape
[03:20] <angela> but wrong..
[03:21] <RealisticDragon> hmm well if even kword is slow then something doesnt seem right :( its normally pretty snappy
[03:21] <RealisticDragon> if you really cant find one you like then crossover office lets you run microsoft office on linux as a last resort :)
[03:21] <executer> :)) yeah :) i check them but i have problems with cvs
[03:21] <angela> its still hanging there doing nothing(pretending to load or work on something) with the erased interface(you cant interact with it at all) for now... like 20 minutes
[03:21] <morvok> angela: did you turn down all the kde showy crap?
[03:22] <executer> am trying to install Linux dc++ form the official web there is a cvs download
[03:22] <RealisticDragon> executer: direct connect is in kubuntu already
[03:22] <RealisticDragon> you can install it from adept
[03:22] <RealisticDragon> !dcgui
[03:22] <ubotu> dcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[03:22] <angela> morvok: didnt turn anything off, its the default kde 3.5.6
[03:22] <RealisticDragon> executer: you need to add the universe repo to adept, let me get you the link...
[03:22] <RealisticDragon> !universe
[03:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:23] <RealisticDragon> once you have added universe you can just install it from the adept programme
[03:23] <RealisticDragon> one click, nice and easy, and you will get updates automtically :)
[03:23] <executer> realistidragon :) sorry for asking so nooby :PPP u mean open adept and :">
[03:23] <angela> KWord ... Loading application... took a lot to load... now theres no document it cant show it omg
[03:24] <tehArtist> Morning all
[03:24] <angela> i had to terminate it
[03:24] <executer> RealisticDragon: sorry for the name mistake :)
[03:24] <tehArtist> Does anyone know of a C++ IDE for kubuntu?
[03:24] <angela> tehArtist: kdevelop
[03:24] <[pyro] > kdevelope?
[03:24] <RealisticDragon> executer: no problem :) did you see the link above? to the page about how to add repositories?
[03:24] <[pyro] > -e
[03:24] <dettoaltrimenti> what's the best html/css editor for ubuntu?
[03:24] <razor__> question: i have 3 packages in Adept Manager that i ~do not~ want to update/upgrade. how do i tell Adept Manager to stop telling me i have packages to update for these 3?
[03:25] <RealisticDragon> dettoaltrimenti: try nvu
[03:25] <RealisticDragon> razor__: sorry im not sure... have you tried the adept page on the wiki?
[03:25] <razor__> no, but i will.
[03:25] <tehArtist> where would I get kdevelope
[03:25] <RealisticDragon> run adept and ask it for kdevelop
[03:26] <RealisticDragon> press alt-space then type adept :)
[03:26] <tehArtist> i did, but it didn't pull anything up
[03:26] <angela> omg... Add/Remove Programs is so slow to start :(    Loading application Loading application....
[03:26] <angela> and then theres no package manager
[03:27] <dettoaltrimenti> realisticdragon- that's what I'm using now, but it doesn't color code tags (at least not CSS tags)- is there a way to change that in the settings?
[03:27] <RealisticDragon> angela: im sorry but it sounds like there is a problem with your installation, that speed seems to be very wrong compared to what i see on a similar machine... can you open a console, type 'top' and see if something is running?
[03:27] <RealisticDragon> dettoaltrimenti: hmmm to be honest i dont know, sorry, i write CSS in vi which does colour tags (but its a bit arcane)
[03:28] <morvok> angela: I can run anything and fast with my amd 2200+.. I have /alot/ more ram though.
[03:28] <angela> yea i can and i just saw... nothing fancy cpu-eating resource-hog app runs.. it just shows the regular linux processes there
[03:28] <RealisticDragon> what is the load average showing as?
[03:28] <RealisticDragon> its one of the lines that top outputs, at the top
[03:28] <RealisticDragon> of the list
[03:28] <RealisticDragon> bah, confusing programme names there :)
[03:28] <razor__> wiki is a flop. :\
[03:29] <RealisticDragon> itll say something like Load average: 0.0 0.0 0.0
[03:29] <angela> top - 18:13:44 up  5:48,  1 user,  load average: 0.15, 0.52, 0.60
[03:29] <MostKnown53> hey
[03:29] <wrhowc> noooo ntfs does not work
[03:29] <nagyv> dettoaltrimenti: if you want to be serious then try eclipse, but I think kate also highlits css, and there is quanta too
[03:29] <RealisticDragon> angela: thank you... and so it seems you are right, theres nothing too wierd running :)
[03:29] <MostKnown53> i just installed kubutu but it didnt give me a chance to make a user name only a password
[03:29] <MostKnown53> what do i use
[03:29] <RealisticDragon> so the problem is elsewhere, hmm
[03:29] <RealisticDragon> MostKnown53: on a console type whoami
[03:29] <RealisticDragon> itll tell you who you are ;)
[03:29] <executer> RealisticDragon: i will write u pm :D just traing registrate now
[03:29] <executer> :D
[03:30] <razor__> Konsole
[03:30] <executer> so nooby :P...
[03:30] <executer> :D
[03:30] <RealisticDragon> razor__: i apologise, you can try asking on launchpad, they know more there :) let me get you a link
[03:30] <MostKnown53> how do i get to a console at the login screen
[03:30] <jiang> hello
[03:30] <angela> im removing the damn koffice packages now
[03:30] <RealisticDragon> MostKnown53: ahh, you cant log in?
[03:30] <nagyv> !aptitude
[03:30] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[03:30] <razor__> RealisticDragon : thanks
[03:30] <RealisticDragon> d'oh, my bad
[03:30] <MostKnown53> no
[03:31] <MostKnown53> i dont kno what i did after i put the cd in it said install ome
[03:31] <RealisticDragon> razor__: launchpad.net - it's the offical ubuntu help system
[03:31] <razor__> heh
[03:31] <MostKnown53> oem or something like that
[03:31] <MostKnown53> i installed that way
[03:31] <nagyv> MostKnown53: oem is for mass distributors
[03:31] <RealisticDragon> MostKnown53: id try a couple of things... "root" and "default" if those dont work im afraid you might need to reinstall and make sure you enter a user name
[03:31] <MostKnown53> i tried root
[03:31] <wrhowc> have to go see ya soon
[03:32] <RealisticDragon> executer: be happy to answer a PM to help you more :)
[03:32] <rob_> whats the difference between "generic" and "386" kernel versions?
[03:32] <MostKnown53> so how do i install it
[03:32] <tehArtist> hmm, I can't seem to get into root
[03:32] <RealisticDragon> rob i think generic is pentium and higher these days
[03:32] <nagyv> MostKnown53: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuOEMInstaller?highlight=%28oem%29
[03:32] <mail> hi
[03:32] <tehArtist> when I do 'su --login'
[03:32] <tehArtist> and enter the password, it seems to not be the correct password
[03:32] <RealisticDragon> tehArtist: try sudo su (but its better to just use sudo all the time)
[03:32] <Adlai> well, 386 would be a kernel that only uses instructions valid on a 386 processor
[03:33] <nagyv> !sudo > tehArtist
[03:33] <MostKnown53> how do i install the real thing then
[03:33] <nagyv> !sudo | tehArtist
[03:33] <rob_> ah so generic ie better?
[03:33] <ubotu> tehArtist: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:33] <Adlai> I don't know if "generic" would use a subset or a superset of those instructions
[03:33] <Adlai> I hope it uses a superset
[03:33] <RealisticDragon> i think these days it uses a superset, 386 is for people with really old machines
[03:33] <mail> what can i do for install firefox (i download and extract it) but i dont install it i search some forums but it not works
[03:33] <nagyv> MostKnown53: read at least until point 4, but even better if you read the whole page
[03:33] <mail> im new linux user:)
[03:34] <Adlai> because I can't imagine most anyone using something older than 386 trying to put kubuntu on it
[03:34] <RealisticDragon> mail: try installing firefox through adept (you can find adept on the start menu)
[03:34] <nagyv> MostKnown53: I have never installed as oem, so have no clue, just found that page, and it seems to me that has the solution
[03:34] <rob_> i have kubuntu, thats KDE, i have got GNOME to work, but i want Xfce, any advice?
[03:34] <nagyv> !adept | mail
[03:34] <ubotu> mail: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:34] <RealisticDragon> rob i think you can just install xbuntu-desktop
[03:34] <RealisticDragon> !xbuntu-desktop
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbuntu-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <RealisticDragon> !xfce
[03:35] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[03:35] <RealisticDragon> yep, there you go
[03:35] <nagyv> mail: always try to install everything through adept or some similar package management sotfware
[03:35] <tehArtist> rob, you can't apt get xubuntu and have your kubuntu install boot all 3 Desktop environments if you like..
[03:35] <rob_> yeah tried that, but when i log into it it comes up blank :S
[03:35] <RealisticDragon> may be a bug :( im sorry - i think you are best asking in the xbuntu channel
[03:35] <RealisticDragon> or possibly on launchpad
[03:35] <tehArtist> rob, you have to select it from the settings to your left when you log in
[03:35] <mail> thanks
[03:35] <rob_> yeah i did that
[03:36] <tehArtist> then I dunno
[03:36] <mail> i check the file on wiki ...
[03:36] <RealisticDragon> my shoulders slope so much you could ski down them ;)
[03:36] <tehArtist> heh, I'm trying to figure out how to install kdevelop
[03:36] <RealisticDragon> tehArtist: did you find adept?
[03:36] <nagyv> rob_: did you tried to install it through aptitude? or reintsall it? aptitude is a bit more informative, then adept and apt-get
[03:36] <rob_> im fonna try install xubuntu on gnome see if it makes any difference
[03:36] <tehArtist> realisticdragon: yes but it wasn't listed in the package manager, so I was atempting to do it from Konsole to get the package
[03:37] <RealisticDragon> mmm its in the universe repo
[03:37] <tehArtist> but i'm not 100% sure, I'm not ver familiar with the *nix interface...
[03:37] <RealisticDragon> !kdevelop
[03:37] <nagyv> rob_: it shouldn't. Actually I installed xubuntu over kubuntu a week ago, and after had to fight hard to clean it.
[03:37] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[03:37] <RealisticDragon> i think you need to add that repo in order to be aable to install it
[03:37] <RealisticDragon> !universe
[03:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:38] <RealisticDragon> you wont see it until you add universe as a source of packages for your system
[03:38] <RealisticDragon> imo universe should be turned on by default but there you go :)
[03:38] <tehArtist> ok thanks
[03:39] <RealisticDragon> good luck :)
[03:39] <ubuntu_> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:39] <tehArtist> The package manager is my main reason for comming ot Kubuntu, I was running Fedora core 6 for a few days, but the package manager drove me nuts
[03:39] <RealisticDragon> 'lo :)
[03:39] <ubuntu_> wazz up guys???
[03:39] <RealisticDragon> tehArtist: fedora core 6 is pretty decent, but i do prefer kubuntu :)
[03:40] <RealisticDragon> depends on which way you believe is up ubuntu_
[03:40] <nagyv> tehArtist: you can find a nice sources.list file at ubuntuguide.org
[03:40] <tehArtist> Fedora Core 6 would be excellent if they would fix the package manager and make it more stable.
[03:41] <tehArtist> Who knows, it possibly had a personal vendetta against me.
[03:41] <RealisticDragon> Fedora and Ubuntu have slightly different purposes
[03:41] <tehArtist> I guess, I'm basically a newbie when it comes to *nix..
[03:42] <RealisticDragon> Fedora is slightly more cutting edge, so they focus on that more than on being quite so polished :) Its good tho, means if thats what you want you can have it... something for everyone ;)
[03:42] <tehArtist> I've been programming for windows (games) for about the past year and a half.
[03:42] <RealisticDragon> nice
[03:42] <tehArtist> So I'm spoiled by windows...
[03:42] <RealisticDragon> im more a mathematical programmer, algorythms, parallelism, formal proofs
[03:42] <RealisticDragon> that kind of thing
[03:42] <tehArtist> ah, well, I'm still learning, I'm a computer science major. I will get there. My focus is games though.
[03:43] <filthpig> hi all
[03:43] <RealisticDragon> there are some good free games
[03:43] <RealisticDragon> !globulation
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about globulation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <RealisticDragon> !globulation2
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about globulation2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <filthpig> in ndiswrapper, what does smp=yes mean?
[03:43] <RealisticDragon> grrr
[03:43] <RealisticDragon> globulation is nice :)
[03:43] <filthpig> what's that, RealisticDragon?
[03:43] <RealisticDragon> filthpig: smp is symetric multi processing, ie more than 1 processor
[03:43] <rob_> nah xubuntu still doesnt work, same thing, logon then blankness...
[03:43] <RealisticDragon> globulation is a game thats open source
[03:44] <Jucato> !info glob2 | RealisticDragon
[03:44] <ubotu> realisticdragon: glob2: innovative state-of-the-art Real Time Strategy (RTS) game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.21-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 9531 kB, installed size 27192 kB
[03:44] <RealisticDragon> sorry rob, id recommend a question on launchpad.net (the official help system)
[03:44] <RealisticDragon> thanks Jucato
[03:44] <tehArtist> RealisticDragon, you wouldn't be able to point me to a walk through on managing repositories for Kubuntu 6.10 could you?
[03:44] <RealisticDragon> id recommend taking a look if you like tehArtist :) glob2 is (too much) fun :D
[03:44] <RealisticDragon> !universe
[03:44] <filthpig> RealisticDragon: oh, all right! That might be my problem, then, because I do not have more than one processor, but ndiswrapper has smp=yes :|
[03:44] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:45] <Jucato> rob_: how did you install xubuntu?
[03:45] <RealisticDragon> filthpig: i havent used ndiswrapper im afraid, but it could be that
[03:45] <filthpig> yup
[03:45] <marton> marton@kubuntu:~/Desktop$ ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[03:45] <marton> Installing bcmwl5
[03:45] <marton> Unable to create directory /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5.Make sure you are running as root
[03:45] <rob_> apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[03:45] <marton> What is the problem with it?
[03:45] <RealisticDragon> i was looking at new laptops and i think i want another mac (to run kubuntu on, of course) but the new macbook pros only haave drivers with ndiswrapper :(
[03:46] <delight> is there any place i can get a pre-packaged edgy k3b 1.0.0
[03:46] <razor__> run that after you do sudo bash
[03:46] <Jucato> rob_: can you try to run it again (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop) to make sure everything is installed?
[03:46] <RealisticDragon> marton: try sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[03:46] <razor__> that will make you root
[03:46] <rob_> yeah tryin again now at console
[03:47] <marton> Thanks!
[03:47] <marton> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[03:47] <marton> Its good?
[03:47] <marton> or bad? :D
[03:47] <RealisticDragon> god knows :P
[03:48] <RealisticDragon> a priest of my acquantance said that he was considering going back to windows because now he had ubuntu up and running he didnt have to pray as much as he used to when trying to avoid a windows crash ;)
[03:49] <rob_> what do i type at CLI to get the logon screen?
[03:49] <RealisticDragon> sorry executer_, it wont let me send you messages without logging in and im on an insecure connection :( so pms wont work
[03:49] <nagyv> rob_: what kind of logon screen?
[03:50] <executer_> :)
[03:50] <rob_> the kubuntu one
[03:50] <executer_> ok :)))
[03:50] <RealisticDragon> sorry about that
[03:50] <executer_> just here is too :D colorfull :D
[03:50] <executer_> :D:D:D::D:D
[03:50] <RealisticDragon> how are you getting on? did you manage to add universe to the list ok?
[03:50] <executer_> i :) dnt know how to add it :">
[03:50] <rob_> the nice GUI one that lets me choose which shell to use
[03:50] <executer_> it might be prety easy but :)
[03:51] <executer_> and :D very new :) this night i installd my firs linux :D
[03:51] <RealisticDragon> its not too hard ;) have you got konsole open?
[03:51] <nagyv> rob_: so you have switched with ctrl+alt+f1 to the command line, and would like to switch back to the gui? click alt+f7
[03:51] <executer_> i even dnt know is kubuntu good edition
[03:51] <executer_> :)
[03:51] <marton> ndiswrapper -d 1468:0311 bcmwl5   ---- What does it mean? The 1468:0311
[03:51] <executer_> eh this IRC chanal :) answers me but
[03:51] <rob_> nah alt f7 dont work
[03:51] <executer_> yeah
[03:51] <executer_> i have consle open
[03:51] <executer_> :P
[03:51] <RealisticDragon> executer_: in the console type "sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:51] <nagyv> rob_: do you have a gui now? or not?
[03:52] <rob_> no GUI
[03:52] <rob_> il just reboot
[03:52] <executer_> w0w
[03:52] <executer_> :)
[03:52] <RealisticDragon> executer_: do you see a file? :)
[03:52] <nagyv> good, what happens if ... as you prefer
[03:52] <RealisticDragon> executer_: you should see the third block says "Uncomment the following 2 lines to add software from the universe repo"
[03:52] <executer_> yes
[03:52] <executer_> :)
[03:53] <RealisticDragon> executer_: do, delete the comment symbols (##) from those lines
[03:53] <RealisticDragon> then you should have this...
[03:53] <RealisticDragon> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[03:53] <RealisticDragon> deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[03:53] <matrix> hi, when i plug in my headset the microphone is not used. it is still the build laptop mic active. how can i make my headset work?
[03:55] <RealisticDragon> executer_: all ok so far?
[03:55] <animimotus> k3b has been released, is it backported to Edgy?
[03:55] <executer_> hmm :) :D
[03:55] <executer_> am still searchinf tor the
[03:55] <executer_> lines
[03:55] <RealisticDragon> should be about line 16 and 17
[03:55] <RealisticDragon> from the top
[03:55] <executer_> that must says sudo uncommented the following 2 ...
[03:56] <executer_> :) ok
[03:56] <RealisticDragon> once you are done press control-O then control X
[03:56] <morvok> !raid
[03:56] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:57] <RealisticDragon> executer_: that will save (O) and quit (X)
[03:57] <razor__> a newer version of K3b?
[03:57] <executer_> RealisticDragon i think i open wrong doc
[03:57] <executer_> i c
[03:57] <executer_> in first line
[03:57] <executer_> sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:57] <executer_> ops
[03:57] <executer_> not thsi :"><
[03:57] <executer_> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[03:58] <RealisticDragon> mmm
[03:58] <RealisticDragon> ok, quit with ctrl-X and ill get the link thatll help you more :)
[03:58] <executer_> how big is kubuntu anyway :) ?
[03:58] <executer_> 1 cd :P ?
[03:59] <executer_> or just my distribution sux :D
[03:59] <RealisticDragon> 1cd + lots over the internet
[03:59] <executer_> aha :">
[03:59] <RealisticDragon> theres about 14,000 different applications i thin
[03:59] <executer_> i miss the seccond part :D + lost over the internet :)
[03:59] <RealisticDragon> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:59] <RealisticDragon> that will show you what you need to do
[03:59] <RealisticDragon> hopefully its better at explaining than me :)
[04:00] <executer_> :)) thank u :)
[04:00] <executer_> linux behaviour is prety much different :)
[04:00] <RealisticDragon> im sorry its so tough, normally its easier than this :)
[04:00] <executer_> :PPPPP thx god haves this changel :D
[04:00] <executer_> i had install only skype :D nothing others :D
[04:00] <RealisticDragon> hang on a sec
[04:00] <RealisticDragon> this will be easier
[04:00] <RealisticDragon> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_apt-get_the_easy_way_.28Synaptic.29
[04:00] <RealisticDragon> try it that way
[04:01] <executer_> :)))
[04:01] <executer_> really thanx
[04:01] <executer_> :))))
[04:01] <RealisticDragon> afraid i need to go :( they want to close up here ;)
[04:01] <RealisticDragon> good luck
[04:01] <executer_> gl u too i have to go to
[04:01] <executer_> :)
[04:02] <executer_> bb all :P
[04:02] <executer_> c ya ^^
[04:07] <tehArtist> hmm, well adding universe didn't seem to work
[04:08] <srecko> hello, help! :P
[04:08] <srecko> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list throws a bunch of errors
[04:08] <rob_> ignore
[04:08] <rob_> kate throws errors for me but works fine
[04:09] <chijin> hello
[04:10] <srecko> other thing
[04:10] <chijin> i'm running edgy with kde 3.5.5 and kde just stopped working. it says "could not start ksmserver" when i try to log in, i can't find anything from google with this error message
[04:10] <srecko> when I try:
[04:10] <mirko2007> how to install a kubuntu server profile by using the kubuntu live-/installation-cd?
[04:10] <PlusOne> good day, anyone got the same problem with x and the nvidia driver - that i cant set a higher resolution as : 1024x768 ?
[04:11] <srecko> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` - says it cant find package
[04:11] <rob_> you need ot edit the xorg.conf file manually
[04:11] <srecko> i enabled all 'deb' repositories
[04:11] <PlusOne> rob, yes i already checked the xorg.conf
[04:11] <chijin> any ideas on the ksmserver thing?
[04:12] <rob_> and did you add the resolutions you wanted?
[04:12] <PlusOne> yes , the xlog shows me this information : (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1280x1024"; removing.
[04:13] <srecko> rob_, any ideas?
[04:13] <PlusOne> i am using the "nvidia" driver , perhaps the edid read out wrong things.
[04:14] <Bi||aBong> why when i install ubuntu and kubuntu kde and gnome run very slow?
[04:15] <yaccin> srecko: try linux-headers-*TAB*
[04:15] <srecko> ok
[04:15] <Jucato> srecko: or "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[04:16] <leighton> hi dr wiil
[04:16] <srecko> umm
[04:16] <srecko> forgot to run update afterwards :)
[04:16] <Jucato> O.o
[04:16] <yaccin> :D
[04:16] <arvid> I just upgraded to feisty, and now PHP can't find the mysqli-class. any idea why, or how I'll fix it? apt-cache search mysqli doesn't really return anything
[04:17] <razor__> i didn't know fiesty was ready for release?
[04:17] <razor__> still in Beta?
[04:17] <arvid> razor__: I think so
[04:17] <leighton> hi can anyone tell me why make command does not work ? been told to download essential package ?
[04:17] <Jucato> leighton: did you install the package "build-essential" ?
[04:18] <leighton> no
[04:18] <leighton> how do i do that ? jucato
[04:18] <leighton> gone onto adept manager
[04:18] <Jucato> either from Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager or "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:19] <razor__> jucato: might you know how to to get Adept Manager to not want to update/upgrade packages i ~do not~ want to upgrade?
[04:19] <PlusOne> anyone got an Samsung940BF running with 1280x1024 ?
[04:19] <leighton> have tried sudo apt-get build-esstential but returns can find package
[04:19] <Jucato> razor__: afaik, Adept doesn't have that feature from the GUI. you'd have to use apt-get commands... (don't know which)
[04:19] <Jucato> leighton: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:20] <razor__> apt-get keeps them back, but i still get the icon on the toolbar claiming package updates.. that is what i want to get rid of
[04:20] <Jucato> leighton: check if you have the "main" repositories enabled in your sources.list (or in Adept Manager -> View -> Manage Repositories)
[04:20] <Jucato> razor__: ah... even after clicking on Fetch Updates in Adept or sudo apt-get update?
[04:21] <razor__> yes, apt-get gives me :
[04:21] <razor__> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:21] <razor__>   k3b libk3b2 libk3b2-mp3
[04:21] <leighton> done that but can see what am i looking for ?
[04:21] <razor__> and that is fine
[04:21] <razor__> i do not want those 3 packages updated
[04:22] <leighton> only comes up with a new repository line at the bottom ?
[04:22] <razor__> i still have them after i click Fetch in Adept
[04:22] <razor__> i do not see a way to bypass updating.. i see Remove (which i do not want to do)
[04:23] <Jucato> don't know either...
[04:23] <waylandbill> razor__: you want to hold them?
[04:23] <bomber> has anyone successfully installed the nvidia drivers in edgy eft?
[04:23] <razor__> apt-get is giving correct info. Adept still tries to get me to update.
[04:23] <rob_> oops, broken kubuntu, time to reinstall...
[04:23] <razor__> Bomber :: i had BAD luck with nvidia drivers
[04:23] <Jucato> bomber: yes
[04:23] <Jucato> rob_: er?
[04:23] <bomber> hmm
[04:24] <bomber> was it a huge project?
[04:24] <waylandbill> I've never had a lick of trouble on with nvidia drivers.
[04:24] <razor__> bomber: i tried to get dual monitors working and it seemed the driver nvidia-glx drivers didn't like me and crashed
[04:25] <bomber> i want to install them
[04:25] <razor__> waylandbill are you using dual monitors?
[04:25] <Jucato> razor__: dual monitors are always problematic, whatever the video card
[04:25] <Jucato> :)
[04:25] <rob_> was tryin to get xfce to work and made a huge mess, deleted stuffs and couldnt open a onsole window, think its best to reinstall
[04:25] <waylandbill> razor__: no. I had it set up before, but it was a pain.
[04:25] <razor__> i am down to 1 monitor and the other waiting to be used
[04:25] <bomber> where did you find directions for it?
[04:25] <razor__> ahh.. bad news for my dreams of g33kn355
[04:25] <Jucato> !nvidia
[04:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:26] <razor__> i have 2 video cards an ATI and an nVidia
[04:26] <razor__> but Kubuntu didn't seem to like ATI drivers either
[04:26] <waylandbill> razor__: oh. my nvidia card has two outputs for dual head.
[04:27] <razor__> mine does as well.. digital and an analog
[04:27] <razor__> geforce fx 5200
[04:27] <waylandbill> ah. mine has two digital outputs. 7900 I think
[04:27] <razor__> i hate to say this.. but windows xp pro worked well will dual monitors
[04:28] <Filthpig> waylandbill: do you know if smp=yes in ndiswrapper can affect how a driver works?
[04:28] <Filthpig> since I have a non-smp computer? :S
[04:28] <Hasrat_USA> razor is my nvidia geforce 7300 LE 512 MB any better than yours?
[04:28] <razor__> i recently converted to kubuntu
[04:28] <razor__> yes
[04:28] <razor__> 5200 is the low low low end of nVidia cards
[04:28] <angela> will installing the ATI binary proprietary drivers instead of the opensource frglx speed up my desktop graphics.. make it feel faster?
[04:28] <Hasrat_USA> razor then why is it called FX?
[04:28] <razor__> i do not know.
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Hasrat_USA: that's just what they chose to call the 5* series
[04:29] <rob_> the mx and fx were crappy versions
[04:29] <rob_> and as i remember kubuntu doesnt like pci gfx cards for games an stuff
[04:29] <Filthpig> hm
[04:29] <razor__> i have an AGP Radeon 9000 series.. ATI drivers didn't mesh well
[04:29] <Filthpig> as long as you install the nvidia drivers it shouldn't be a problem?
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> the entire 5 series was FX, the low end 4s were MX (high end there were ti
[04:30] <rob_> i hav a agp raedon 9200 (or something) at home, works fine
[04:30] <rob_> even plays ut2004
[04:30] <razor__> hmm
[04:30] <razor__> well that Raedon card doesn't have digital out. must go digital for the flat panel
[04:31] <tehArtist> I have added the Universe/Multiverse repositories but oddly, it's still not showing kdevelope in adept
[04:31] <rob_> try "kdevelop"
[04:31] <rob_> no "E"
[04:31] <tehArtist> I have..
[04:31] <Jucato> !pastebin | leighton
[04:31] <ubotu> leighton: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:31] <tehArtist> makes no difference
[04:32] <Jucato> leighton: use pastebin to paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list file
[04:32] <waylandbill> tehArtist: did you update after enabling those repos?
[04:32] <Jucato> tehArtist: Dapper or Edgy?
[04:32] <rob_> maybe use the sources list on the unofficial edgy starter guide
[04:32] <tehArtist> edgy
[04:32] <leighton> hi jucato
[04:32] <Jucato> tehArtist: did you do "sudo apt-get update" or Fetch Updates as waylandbill mentioned?
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> razor__: i've tried analog with a flat panel (my 19" allows both), but digital is just so much nicer
[04:32] <tehArtist> yes, I did fetch updates
[04:33] <angela> wich kernel works better for pentium 4 ? 2.6.17-generic or 2.6.17-386 ?
[04:33] <Jucato> tehArtist: can you use pastebin to show your sources.list contents please?
[04:33] <razor__> Daisuke_Ido i agree.. digital is the only way to go with a flat panel
[04:33] <Jucato> !generic | angela
[04:33] <ubotu> angela: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[04:33] <angela> ok thanks
[04:33] <tehArtist> jucato, I don't know how to access sources.list, I'm still a *nix newbie
[04:34] <waylandbill> tehArtist: kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:34] <tehArtist> no such file or directory
[04:35] <tehArtist> wait i got it
[04:35] <razor__> Daisuke_Ido : i bought a 17".. for the fact of i couldn't find a 19" in a reasonable price range that had larger resolution.. was no real point.. unless widescreen
[04:36] <tehArtist> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10901/    <<< source.list
[04:36] <Jucato> leighton: you too. "kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:36] <Jucato> leighton: press Alt+F2, then type: kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:37] <dromer> how can I downgrade my firefox? I like 1.5 alot better !
[04:37] <razor__> heh
[04:37] <tehArtist> lol
[04:37] <razor__> uninstall then REinstall the older version?
[04:38] <Jucato> waylandbill: tehArtist might have to try to use a different mirror/server
[04:38] <leighton> jucato the sources.list seem to be rem out ? all have the # infront ?
[04:39] <leighton> jacato > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10902/
[04:40] <angela> wich makes my desktop faster? ati drivers or opensource ati driver?
[04:41] <Hasrat_USA> ati drivers
[04:41] <angela> the proprietary ones right?
[04:41] <Hasrat_USA> opensource ones aren't supposed to enable even 3d acceleration yet
[04:41] <Hasrat_USA> yes
[04:42] <angela> ok
[04:42] <angela> i will install
[04:42] <Hasrat_USA> does anyone know if there is an install-fest going on anywhere in new york city?
[04:43] <razor__> thanks all.
[04:43] <leighton> hi jacato
[04:43] <Hasrat_USA> by the way dromer what's wrong with firefox 2.0?
[04:44] <dromer> er, it's slow
[04:44] <dromer> and I dunno, I just don't like it :S
[04:44] <Jucato> leighton: sorry, was a bit busy. hold on let me check
[04:44] <waylandbill> dromer. Synaptic and aptitude allow you to lock a package at a version.
[04:44] <leighton> no problems
[04:45] <dromer> waylandbill: ox, didn't know that, should have done that before upgrading :P
[04:45] <easytiger> is there no webmin package?
[04:45] <Jucato> leighton: ok the problem is that you seem to have deleted the repositories that you need and the others that you have are disabled
[04:45] <dromer> really I should get a new mobo and cpu .. mine is getting slow
[04:45] <Jucato> !webmin | easytiger
[04:45] <dromer> ancient technology :P
[04:45] <ubotu> easytiger: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[04:45] <easytiger> so whats the alternative?
[04:45] <leighton> what do i do ? remove the #
[04:45] <Jucato> leighton: let me think of an easy way to correct this
[04:46] <waylandbill> easytiger: cpanel is one alternative, there are others.
[04:47] <angela> hey where do i get the ati proprietary driver for kubuntu
[04:47] <angela> i searched the package manager and nothing
[04:48] <Jucato> !ati | angela
[04:48] <ubotu> angela: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:48] <bomber> nice... there we go
[04:48] <bomber> thanks fellaz
[04:49] <bomber> so much different than the generic ones
[04:49] <Jucato> leighton: just a few more seconds...
[04:49] <leighton> ok
[04:51] <CaBlGuY> ok, since no one is answering me in the other channel. if I got the latest distro of plain Ubuntu, are all the bugs and whatnot fixed on it..
[04:51] <CaBlGuY> 6.10 edgy is what I;'m refering to..
[04:53] <waylandbill> CaBlGuY: depends if the developers fixed the bug in the versions that get installed.
[04:54] <CaBlGuY> well, in particular I was interested in the issues with Firefox freezing up and whatnot..
[04:55] <Jucato> leighton: ok, press Alt+F2 and type in: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <leighton> jucato> done that
[04:57] <Jucato> leighton: ok, now replace the contents of that file w/ this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10904/
[04:57] <frojnd> !nvidia
[04:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:57] <scotty> Where does Kopete store logs?
[04:58] <cosmo_>  if I set up 2 xscreens for my 2 moniters do I have to do anything special to move my mouse between the 2 screens for example I like to play a MMO on one screen but I like to have a browser open on the second screen) is this possible?I'm new to ubuntu so trying to decide how I want to set up my 2 moniters
[04:58] <Jucato> scotty: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs
[04:58] <hatta> it's kind of hit or miss cosmo_
[04:58] <Bi||aBong> why when i install ubuntu and kubuntu gnome and kde run too slow?
[04:58] <hatta> some games grab mouse input
[04:58] <Knightlust> or you could just hit Ctrl+O to open a log for a channel
[04:58] <hatta> so you can't get to the 2nd screen without going back to windowed mode
[04:59] <hatta> others don't though
[04:59] <Knightlust> sorry, i read wrong, i read konversation, not kopete. hehe
[04:59] <cosmo_> with this MMO if I run it in windowed mode(which I normally do) in windows it doesn't hold the mouse
[05:00] <Filthpig> waylandbill: do you think that the fact that I'm using feisty herd 5 unupgraded can be a reason for my not-working d-link card?
[05:00] <biohazard> #slug
[05:00] <Bi||aBong> somebody can help me?
[05:00] <waylandbill> Filthpig: it's a possibility. I've not use feisty, so I can't be sure.
[05:01] <waylandbill> Bi||aBong: was it always slow?
[05:01] <Bi||aBong> yes
[05:01] <rob_> fiesty didnt work with my card, rt2500
[05:02] <Bi||aBong> i install ubuntu and kubuntu and i have the same problem
[05:02] <waylandbill> Bi||aBong: what are you comparing it to?
[05:02] <Filthpig> Bi||aBong: maybe your computer is too slow?
[05:02] <Filthpig> hm
[05:02] <Filthpig> I'll try downgrading if my bro has any cd-r's
[05:03] <biohazard> #pplug
[05:03] <Filthpig> biohazard: what are you doing?
[05:03] <bXi> can i set my kubuntu so that harddrives will sleep after not being used?
[05:03] <morvok> bXi: yes
[05:04] <bXi> morvok: where would i do that?
[05:04] <rob_> does ubuntu work okay with FAT32 drives? better than with NTFS?
[05:04] <waylandbill> rob_: ntfs is only read-only
[05:04] <bXi> rob_: from what i've just seen it seems to work correctly
[05:04] <bXi> and ntfs works with ntfs-3g
[05:04] <morvok> !apm
[05:04] <rob_> I had NTFS workin fine but it was a bit of hassle to set up
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <Bi||aBong> i have a Pentium 4 2.0Ghz, 512 MB DDR and  Ati Radeon 9200SE 128 MB
[05:05] <morvok> bXi: google apm..
[05:05] <Bi||aBong> my computer is not the problem
[05:05] <rob_> i have a big had drive for things like music, im thinkin of makin it fat32 for easy access
[05:05] <hatta> fat32 works as well in linux as it does anywhere
[05:05] <rob_> cool
[05:05] <rob_> thankyou
[05:06] <morvok> bXi: you are looking for advanced power management, I can't really help you with it though because it gave nothing but grief.
[05:06] <waylandbill> Bi||aBong: what are you basing the slow comparison to? what is not slow on that pc?
[05:06] <hatta> just keep in mind the file size limitation
[05:06] <leighton> thanks jucato ...very much
[05:06] <hatta> 2gb iirc
[05:06] <Jucato> leighton: working now?
[05:06] <leighton> seeems to be downloading stuff
[05:06] <rob_> what is the file size limitation?
[05:06] <leighton> and found build-essesntials
[05:06] <Jucato> leighton: ok. then you'll be able to install build-essential
[05:06] <waylandbill> also keep in mind fat32 isn't a journalized fs
[05:07] <leighton> seems to be again thanks jucato
[05:07] <tehArtist> sweet, I figured out what twas going on with the adept...I wasn't clicking 'unspupported'
[05:07] <bXi> morvok: i'll look around thanks
[05:07] <tehArtist> thats where kdevelop was listed
[05:07] <morvok> bXi: the kernel modules always hung my computer
[05:07] <tehArtist> thanks for the help
[05:07] <Jucato> tehArtist: ah using Add/Remove when we presumed you were using Adept Manager
[05:08] <morvok> bXi: considering I have 3 nics, 3 video cards and 6 HD's I wanted it to work :)
[05:09] <morvok> bXi: try this:pidertools.com/ub_power.php
[05:10] <morvok> bXi: you should also be able to set the hd power down in the bios.
[05:10] <tehArtist> lol
[05:11] <Bi||aBong> well now when i run any program in kde this take many seconds to open
[05:11] <frojnd> !nvidia
[05:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:11] <Bi||aBong> and kde run extremely slow
[05:12] <bXi> morvok: that site is dead
[05:13] <ubuntu_> Hello, I am facing a problem with Kubuntu Edgy...This morning my system wasn't able to get out of the screen saver, moving the mouse bashing the keyboard didnt really do, it would take like 5 min for the password prompt to appear...so i just ctrl+alt+f1 and restarted from there....now it boots but when i put my user name and password the screen goes black and then back to the password prompt with a new session
[05:14] <chijin> heh i can't login to kde either
[05:14] <cosmo_> PCI:2:0:0 would be the AGP bus ID correct?
[05:14] <chijin> screen goes black and the login prompt reappears
[05:14] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: look in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log for what went wrong.
[05:14] <morvok> bXi: it worked for me, it more covers working with gnome though.. I'll look for something else for ya
[05:15] <mervteck> hey wayland have u ever run CSS on wine?
[05:15] <chijin> mine was saying "Could not start ksmserver", then i ran fsck.ext3 with the live cd and the message disappeared but kde still won't start
[05:15] <ubuntu_> I looked into that but didnt really understand...ill pastebin :)
[05:15] <waylandbill> mervteck: what's css?
[05:15] <waylandbill> counter strike? no
[05:17] <chijin> if i run fsck.ext3 with the -fyc switch, should it be finding bad sectors if there are any?
[05:17] <chijin> i'm suspecting hdd failure, but fsck didn't report bad sectors
[05:17] <chijin> it just said filesystem was modified, or something
[05:18] <chijin> kde stopped suddenly working for no good reason
[05:18] <chijin> and the status file dpkg uses had some weird characters in it
[05:18] <Hasrat_USA> is googletalk with voice available for gnu/linux?
[05:18] <Midspeed> Hi, does anybody know of a mpg to avi converter for kubuntu?
[05:18] <Bi||aBong> somebody can help me?
[05:19] <waylandbill> chijin: could be ram troubles or other hardware trouble.
[05:19] <Midspeed> Hi, does anybody know of a mpg to avi converter for kubuntu?
[05:19] <chijin> waylandbill: i ran memtest86(?) for one long night and it didn't find any errors in the memory
[05:20] <waylandbill> chijin: that's good.
[05:21] <rob_> just reinstalled kubuntu, at the grub menu i try to load ubuntu, it says "no such partition"
[05:22] <Kevlar> How do I tell which Kubuntu upgrade I need to get?
[05:23] <ubuntu_> I don't know whats wrong with my net connection its not opening websites...anyways this is the error
[05:23] <ubuntu_> Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory
[05:23] <ubuntu_> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[05:23] <ubuntu_> 	No such file or directory.
[05:23] <rob_> yay fixxored it :D
[05:23] <bXi> check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:25] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: That's an error due to some idiot who keeps trying to push support for every device ever made by wacom into the kernel.
[05:25] <jhutchins> wacom makes drawing pads and is responsible for touch screen/tablet input devices.
[05:26] <jhutchins> In other words, useless to 99% of linux users, but we all have to deal with it.
[05:26] <jhutchins> rob_: What was the problem?
[05:26] <cosmo_> can it be removed?
[05:26] <Jucato> jhutchins: actually it has more to do w/ tablet PC's than wacom tablets
[05:26] <rob_> just reinstalled kubuntu, at the grub menu i try to load ubuntu, it says "no such partition"
[05:26] <rob_> but fixed by edit in the partition
[05:26] <mervteck> wayland: counter strike source
[05:26] <jhutchins> Jucato: Yeah, but still.  99% of us don't have one, but we still have to deal with the fact that it hoses X>
[05:27] <ubuntu_> jhutschin: what's the solution? and does that really stop me from logging in??
[05:27] <jhutchins> rob_: You pointed grub at a different partition?
[05:27] <rob_> yes
[05:27] <rob_> it was lookin in the wrong one :S
[05:27] <Jucato> jhutchins: it actually doesn't hose X. and I don't think it's fair to presume that 99% don't have Tablet PC's
[05:27] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: No, you can still log in on a console.
[05:28] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: WHere do you see that error?
[05:28] <jhutchins> Jucato: Right, because desktops are SO last century.
[05:28] <ubuntu_> jhutschin: This is what I posted earlier "Hello, I am facing a problem with Kubuntu Edgy...This morning my system wasn't able to get out of the screen saver, moving the mouse bashing the keyboard didnt really do, it would take like 5 min for the password prompt to appear...so i just ctrl+alt+f1 and restarted from there....now it boots but when i put my user name and password the screen goes black and then back to the password prompt with a new session"
[05:29] <ubuntu_> so it just restarts X
[05:29] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Ok, let's try the simple stuff first.
[05:29] <Jucato> jhutchins: no. because it's hard to determine the number of people using this or that device. statistics don't always work (and in this case, there isn't even any statistics)
[05:29] <Hasrat_USA> what did you do last night ubuntu_?
[05:30] <jhutchins> ubuntu_:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:30] <ubuntu_> nothing really, just ur simple browsing and watched a video
[05:30] <jhutchins> Jucato: Yeah, but it's stupid to be devoting so much effort/space to such a marginal device.
[05:30] <maxime> hello guys, what are U using to connect the emule network under ubuntu ?
[05:30] <ubuntu_> jhutschins: Keep in mind that i on livecd now,...and I did that ...actually i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phugh xserver-xorg
[05:31] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: You'll need to do that from a console, booted from disk.
[05:31] <ubuntu_> ok could do that, but as I said i already did that command...didnt work...any other suggestions?
[05:31] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: YOu might also sudo rm -r /tmp/* and rm -r ~/tmp/*
[05:32] <Jucato> jhutchins: I don't see what's the big deal actually. the error messages are harmless (but yes, they need to be handled better). but that's a small price to pay to accommodate other users.
[05:32] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: boot from disk, go to console, try startx, see if you get errors in the console.
[05:32] <cosmo_> is there a way to find out what the bus ID is for my video card? (I have a AGP Gforce 6600GT)
[05:32] <ubuntu_> startx renders that error
[05:32] <rob_> could try lspci
[05:32] <ahlalo_elyon> Would I be foolish to upgrade to Feisty now if I plan on using it as my main OS?  I know it's still in developement, but is it relatively stable?
[05:32] <jhutchins> Jucato: I've just seen a lot of people who run into problems that traced back to the wacom support.  Look at the xorg.conf file - grep -c wacom!
[05:33] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: It's crude, but you could go through your xorg.conf file and strip out every line that references wacom.
[05:33] <waylandbill> smb4k setting up sudoers file with those wacom errors caused me grief
[05:33] <waylandbill> or comment them out.
[05:34] <cosmo_> it says 00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) (rev c1) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev c1)
[05:34] <Jucato> jhutchins: what problems? the only problem is that they don't really know what those error messages mean and think that something's really wrong. and that's what needs to be addressed. but as far as actual problems caused by those, I haven't encountered any (except from those actually using a wacom tablet)_
[05:34] <jhutchins> waylandbill: It's not like he's ever going to need them.
[05:34] <ubuntu_> thats simple, i like that idea....I didnt even know what wacom is 5 minutes ago...ok ill try that
[05:34] <waylandbill> jhutchins: maybe not, but commented out in there doesn't hurt anything
[05:35] <PlusOne> anyone got an idea why i can use only 1024x768 on a Samsung 940BF ? http://nopaste.php-q.net/283638 > xorg.conf
[05:35] <mdtyke> Hello everyone
[05:36] <PlusOne> and thats the xlog : http://nopaste.php-q.net/283637
[05:37] <chijin> PlusOne: you probably need to enter the right vert and horiz syncs into the xorg.conf
[05:38] <PlusOne> chijin: yes i i wil try again and relog to irc.
[05:38] <jhutchins> chijin: Actually, most non-dead monitors these days have vesa capabilty and can supply the sync info.
[05:39] <PlusOne> jhutchins: they are communicate over DCC ? UseEdidFreqs ?
[05:39] <angela> anyone have some kubuntu 7.04 herd 5 screenshots pls
[05:39] <chijin> jhutchins: i have a samsung 930bf and i had to enter those values myself
[05:39] <rob_> fiesty loks same as edgy
[05:40] <angela> i wanna se
[05:40] <rob_> i took off fiesty and put edgy back on
[05:41] <PlusOne> chijin: which nvidia driver u are using ?
[05:41] <mervteck> #winehq
[05:41] <chijin> PlusOne: the one from the edgy repo
[05:42] <PlusOne> chijin: can u post your xorg.conf ?
[05:43] <chijin> i'm using these values, horizsync 31.5 - 67.0, vertrefresh 50.0 - 72.0
[05:44] <cosmo_> is there a command to find the moniter identifier for my second moniter?
[05:44] <deathplanter> hi guys
[05:44] <deathplanter> im wondering if any of you know
[05:44] <cosmo_> or is the identifyer arbitrary
[05:44] <deathplanter> what's the line to add in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <deathplanter> to enable nvidia's ubuntu repository?
[05:44] <jhutchins> !easysources | deathplanter
[05:44] <ubotu> deathplanter: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:45] <jhutchins> !ati | deathplanter
[05:45] <ubotu> deathplanter: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:45] <mervteck> WOW the #winehq channels full of assholes supream
[05:45] <deathplanter> jhutchins: actually,ati isn't actually what i needed ;p
[05:45] <mervteck> pardon my language
[05:46] <mervteck> can anyone tell me the 2 commands i run to update my wine. i forget but one has update other one i forget
[05:46] <deathplanter> damnit,there are no nvidia repositories in source-o-matic
[05:46] <mervteck> deathplanter : get automatix2 it will auto install the nvidia drivers for you
[05:47] <deathplanter> i don't want the drivers installed from source
[05:47] <deathplanter> i prefer to add a repository and get notified whenever there's new version of driver
[05:47] <mervteck> understandable
[05:47] <jhutchins> deathplanter: ati is fewer letters to type than nvidia
[05:47] <jhutchins> !nvidia > deathplanter
[05:47] <deathplanter> xP
[05:48] <jhutchins> It's the same factoid though.
[05:48] <mervteck> xD ATI SUCKS!
[05:48] <deathplanter> will it lead me to the repository adress? ;P
[05:48] <mervteck> RAHHH
[05:48] <ubuntu_> jhutchins: ok I edited Xorg.conf and ready to restart...however there is another error in the log: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/, removing from list!
[05:48] <mervteck> xD
[05:48] <cosmo_> is there a command to find the moniter identifier for my second moniter? or can the identifier be set to whatever I want to put in there?
[05:48] <jhutchins> deathplanter: Not unless nvidia decides to make deb packages for ubuntu.
[05:48] <ar> chijin: thanx ! my : HorizSync	31.0-81.0 VertRefresh	56.0-75.0
[05:49] <tehArtist> I'm back
[05:49] <tehArtist> haha
[05:49] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: That too is not a critical error.
[05:49] <ubuntu_> jhutchins: plus 2 more lines of the same but with /X11/OTF and /X11/CTF
[05:49] <tehArtist> well, i have a problem..
[05:49] <scotty> Alright, I have Power Manager set to lock the screen when I close my laptop lid. However, it doesn't work. Anyone know how to get this to work?
[05:49] <deathplanter> jhutchins: crap. i heard somewhere they actually've already done it
[05:49] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: X logs a lot of stuff that isn't really a problem, it's just unused options.
[05:49] <ubuntu_> ok great will restart now :)....thanx a lot jhutschins :)
[05:49] <jhutchins> deathplanter: Ask wherever you heard that where the repository is.
[05:49] <tehArtist> the package manager is frozen, how do I kill the package manager from the command line, every time I attempt to start add remove programs, it notify's me it's busy and I should finish the current session before starting a new one..
[05:50] <enzo_> I ghost'd my 250GB to a new 500GB hdd. I can boot into hda1 (Winxp), but not Kubuntu on hda6. I also noticed I gained 4GB on the new hdd with the Kubuntu partition.
[05:50] <mervteck> so can anyone give me the commands to make my wine get an update off the site?
[05:50] <jhutchins> deathplanter: They may make the packages available without setting up a full-fledged repository complete with index files.
[05:51] <mervteck> anyone?
[05:51] <deathplanter> jhutchins: english,please. now i need to use the dictionary ;p
[05:51] <jhutchins> enzo_: It's 4GB smaller and you can't boot to it.  You don't suppose those two items are related?
[05:51] <enzo_> It's 4GB LARGER and no, can't boot into it
[05:52] <enzo_> jhutchins: well, here's the thing. I'm referring to the amount used
[05:52] <jhutchins> deathplanter: A ubuntu repository has an index file that tells apt what packages and versions it offers.
[05:52] <mervteck> #winehq
[05:52] <enzo_> the partition is going from 118GB to 360GB
[05:52] <deathplanter> yeah,i know that
[05:53] <mervteck> WOW what an effing fagget channel the Wine channel banned me for asking how to update it properly
[05:53] <deathplanter> and i thought nvidia hosts such repository,isn't it?
[05:53] <tehArtist> I was installing VMware, and add/remove programs froze. So i closed it, then I couldn't get back in, so I rebooted, now when I attempt to return to add remove programs it tells me 'Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other adept application or apt-get or aptitude). please close the other application before using this one'...I don't have another adept installer open. How do i fix this? Thanks
[05:53] <deathplanter> tried rm /var/dpkg/lock?
[05:53] <LjL> mervteck: are if you aren't *way* more careful with words, the same is going to happen here.
[05:53] <jhutchins> !adept crash fix | tehArtist
[05:53] <ubotu> tehArtist: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:54] <cosmo_> under monitor in the xorg.conf file what does Option         "DPMS" do?
[05:55] <jhutchins> cosmo_: Power management, allows the PC to turn off the screen instead of just blank it.
[05:55] <cosmo_> ah ok
[05:55] <jhutchins> cosmo_: Digital Power Management System or some such acronym.
[05:55] <tehArtist> OK, it has something about setting up vmware-player
[05:56] <deathplanter> okay,so i guess the only sensible way to install newest nvidia drivers and control what's going on is to install it from sources? ;<
[05:57] <tehArtist> jhutchins, now when I attempt to launch add/remove programs, it starts to launch, then it just closes
[05:59] <tehArtist> jhutchins, ok its launching add remove now, but the vmware isntall has became corrupt, how can i fix this problem?
[05:59] <tehArtist> the install didn't compete
[05:59] <chijin> daemon.log says that x server died during startup, what's going on?
[05:59] <tehArtist> complete* and i'm unable to remove whats there..
[06:01] <skittles> quiet in here this am
[06:01] <jean-benoit> !fr
[06:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:04] <cosmo_> on a desktop PC if I comment out the wacom stuff will it hurt it?
[06:05] <skittles> i went to the site that say to order kubuntu.....it also says that the drapper drake is more suppported with free upgrades, ect. for 5yrs and the kubuntu is something you have to pay for what is the cost for kubuntu?
[06:05] <cosmo_> kubuntu is free if you just download the ISO and burn it to a CD
[06:05] <skittles> i am new to this so plz don't get irraited with my questions
[06:06] <skittles> tks cosmo
[06:08] <mervteck> k some one wanna help meh? i told to update to wine because i guess 0.9.33 is out and im running 0.9.32 but when i tell it to upgrade it says its up to date...
[06:09] <ubuntu_> jhutschin: I am back, and unfortunatly it didn't work
[06:09] <Rossi> Hello to everyone. Anyone who tried an Highpoint RocketRaid 1740 with (k)ubuntu? I always get the same compilter-error :-/ I someone got thes HP-Driver compiled plesase contact me (query, dcc, ...)
[06:10] <Sayers> For some reason robocode wont work :S
[06:10] <Sayers> it cant find a compiler
[06:11] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: So aside from font errors, what's the last error when you try startx?
[06:14] <skittles> do you have to update to edgy before ou can do the update to fiesty fawn? ok, i have drapper drake, all the stuff i have now will i have to reinmstall it all after i update to edgy/fiesty fawn?
[06:14] <ubuntu_> jhutschins: Just a sec I am trying to pastebin my log...for some reason the browser is very slowwww
[06:18] <Sayers> Whats the name of the Java Compiler binary
[06:18] <ubuntu_> jhutschin: I don't know whats wrong with the browser...but this is the error before the wacom section: "(WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap"
[06:22] <jonnybecker> Hi. Newbie question: What is the difference between linux-headers and linux-headers-generic? And when would I need the 'generic'?
[06:24] <cosmo_> would someone mind taking a look at my modified xorg.conf to see if I have everything set right to run 2 monitors as 2 Xwindows http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10917/
[06:25] <scotty> Okay, for the life of me I can't figure this out.
[06:25] <scotty> I set power manager to lock the screen when I close my laptop lid.
[06:25] <scotty> But it doesn't.
[06:25] <scotty> It just stays the same as if I had the laptop lid up.
[06:25] <scotty> It's the same thing when I set it to hibernate or shut down.
[06:25] <scotty> It's like it doesn't recognize the laptop is shut.
[06:26] <scotty> Anyone have any ideas?
[06:29] <enzo_> jhutchins: Sorry, I had video driver issue
[06:29] <enzo_> jhutchins: What would you recommend me to do so that I can get Kubuntu running again?
[06:31] <jhutchins> enzo_: I'd re-do the ghost transfer - the partition should be exactly the same size.  That, or I'd use some other method to copy the data to a partition I created with fdisk.
[06:32] <enzo_> jhutchins: I am doing the transfer again right now.
[06:32] <enzo_> I also noticed that my winxp partition lost 250MB on the new hdd
[06:32] <enzo_> of used space
[06:33] <enzo_> I'm trying another method, though
[06:33] <enzo_> I'm using Partition Magic this time
[06:34] <enzo_> Last time I tried it this way I got a handle error. Handle not found or something similar
[06:36] <jhutchins> enzo_: Why not just partition the drive and copy the data over?
[06:37] <enzo_> How so?
[06:37] <jhutchins> Dunno how well that works for windows, but it works fine for linux.
[06:37] <jhutchins> dd, cp, scp, rsync.
[06:37] <enzo_> My last resort will be to take everything 1:1 through a new install on the new hdd
[06:39] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:39] <khirr> someone have install icecast?
[06:40] <khirr> !icecast
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <enzo_> jhutchins: the entire copy process is 92%
[06:40] <rob_> anyone like to recommend something to make kubuntu really pretty? i was checkin out beryl
[06:41] <enzo_> rob_: a bit more detail helps
[06:41] <Hasrat_USA> is there any gyachi user/fan in here>
[06:41] <rob_> well thats the thing, im open to any suggestions :P
[06:41] <maddog39> ubuntu needs to fix the dang ipv6 glitch in debian cuz konqueror is making me want to punch myself in the head
[06:42] <maddog39> with its utter slowness
[06:42] <enzo_> rob_: The thing is that there are many types of things that you can do.
[06:42] <ashmaus> wireless
[06:42] <ashmaus> !wireless
[06:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:42] <rob_> well would you like to suggest any?
[06:42] <Hasrat_USA> rob beryl is the only thing you need to use with either gnome or kde to turn heads and enable you and your gf/friends to spend some REAL quality time with the computer :)
[06:43] <rob_> thankyou hasrat :D
[06:43] <enzo_> I have Beryl on my desktop, not this old laptop
[06:43] <Hasrat_USA> maddog you're not using Konqueror to browse the internet, are you?
[06:43] <rob_> nah im gonna leave my lappy alone, its too slow :(
[06:44] <enzo_> I only use my laptop for IMs and Konversation
[06:44] <enzo_> Basic communications
[06:44] <Hasrat_USA> Dell, along with other famous OEMs and retailers are soon coming up with laptops and desktops with Linux preinstalled in 'em, which also would include support for hardware peripherals
[06:45] <ashmaus> Wish Broadcom would support Linux
[06:45] <enzo_> jhutchins: CROSS YOUR FINGERS. NO ERRORS. TIME TO REBOOT THE DESKTOP
[06:45] <Hasrat_USA> rob beryl gave me the inspiration to really really learn C/C++ :P
[06:45] <rob_> lol enzo thats the exact purpose of my laptop too
[06:46] <rob_> really? i know c++ quite well, what does beryl use it for?
[06:46] <enzo_> SWEET MERCIFUL LINUX DEITIES!!!!
[06:47] <Vorian> #kubuntu-dev
[06:47] <rob_> any tutorials for beryl?
[06:47] <enzo_> Ok, new issues. I had this before but I messed up Kubuntu.
[06:47] <rob_> or other things i should read?
[06:47] <Hasrat_USA> the only silly problem i have with my beryl is that it craps out completely if i start a 3d game. well what i do normally now is that i turn off beryl, which takes 2 seconds to do so, and then launch my favourite game and after i'm finished with playing, i turn beryl back on. simple. apart from that Beryl rules and i have also upgraded it to 0.2.0 recently
[06:47] <maddog39> wiki.beryl-project.org
[06:47] <jhutchins> ashmaus: The problem is that the FCC requires that manufacturers make it difficult for users to change the power and frequency settings so that they can't get outside the regulated specs.  Open source drivers mean that users can change whatever they want.
[06:47] <enzo_> fsck died with exit status 8
[06:47] <maddog39> the wiki i alwaysw use for beryl
[06:47] <enzo_> File system check failed.
[06:47] <maddog39> http://wiki.beryl-project.org   <----------- best beryl tutorial(s)
[06:47] <Hasrat_USA> rob in my humble opinion there are different tutorials available for different types of hardware configuration
[06:48] <enzo_> A log is being saved in /var/log/fsck/checkfs if that location is writable. Please repair the file system manually.
[06:48] <enzo_> A maintenance shell will now be started
[06:48] <rob_> cheers maddog, and hasrat gonna hav a wee read now
[06:48] <intelikey>       8    - Operational error
[06:48] <maddog39> np rob
[06:48] <enzo_> CONTROL-D will terminate this shell and resume system boot.
[06:48] <enzo_> Gice root password for maintenance
[06:48] <Hasrat_USA> rob well which card you got?
[06:48] <enzo_> I know my root password, but what would I do?
[06:48] <mdtyke> Hey , can someone tell me how I can make more right click menus for Konqueror?
[06:49] <maddog39> i gave him the link to the official beryl tutorial
[06:49] <maddog39> shows u how to setup on either card
[06:49] <Hasrat_USA> installing beryl and avoiding some nightmares is so easy but still so many newbies complicate it all for themselves and others as well
[06:49] <maddog39> the official beryl tutorial
[06:49] <maddog39> always works
[06:49] <maddog39> without a hitch
[06:50] <maddog39> i even edited the ubuntu page so that all the mirrirors were up-to-date and such
[06:50] <rob_> sorry i hav a 7900GS
[06:50] <enzo_> Hasrat_USA: I complicated the install for myself. I took a deep breath, got a new set of eyes and took everything I did as progress
[06:50] <enzo_> Sure enough, I'm using Beryl
[06:50] <intelikey> enzo_ enter the passwd and run  fsck /dev/<where_ever_it_is>
[06:50] <enzo_> intelikey: HELLO! HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?
[06:50] <rob_> should i be using XGL? what is it?
[06:50] <intelikey> well, and you ?
[06:51] <enzo_> AIGL
[06:51] <maddog39> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu#Ubuntu_6.06.x_.28Dapper_Drake.29
[06:51] <maddog39> for beryl on dapper
[06:51] <maddog39> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu#Ubuntu_6.10_.28Edgy_Eft.29
[06:51] <Hasrat_USA> lol enzo that's cool. whenever i ran into problems with anything in gnu/inux, i just went crazy, made for myself a gallon of coffee and kept on working until the problem was resolved. this always worked! :)
[06:51] <maddog39> for beryl on edgy
[06:51] <Filthpig> hi
[06:51] <rob_> im on edgy, i have the page up on other machine
[06:51] <maddog39> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu#Ubuntu_6.10_.28Edgy_Eft.29
[06:51] <maddog39> thats the link for install instructions
[06:52] <maddog39> rob: ^^
[06:52] <rob_> but what is XGL?
[06:52] <Hasrat_USA> and yeah i love to confront problems in GNU/Linux environment. any problem in this particular environment kicks ass
[06:52] <Filthpig> how do I set winxp as the default boot option in grub?
[06:52] <maddog39> XGL is the engine which allows beryl to use 3D
[06:52] <maddog39> on the desktop
[06:52] <Hasrat_USA> delete XP entirely lol
[06:52] <rob_> ah
[06:53] <Filthpig> funny man, Hasrat_USA. I'd love to do it, but it's my brothers PC and he wants xp for games
[06:53] <rob_> edit your /boot/grub/menu file then fine the default value and change it to whatever you want
[06:53] <Filthpig> and also his wifi card does not work in linux
[06:53] <l90bp1> XGL is the cube, right?
[06:53] <intelikey> Filthpig the "default" line
[06:53] <Filthpig> hm
[06:53] <intelikey> !wifi | Filthpig
[06:53] <ubotu> Filthpig: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:53] <Hasrat_USA> tell your bro that he would be able to play most (although not all) of his favourite games using either Xine or Vmware. ( what are the games he plays anyways?)
[06:54] <Filthpig> intelikey, I've tried everything the last few days
[06:54] <Hasrat_USA> last time i checked it was possible for xine to run world of warcraft also
[06:54] <Filthpig> prism54 driver does not work, installing ndiswrapper and xp drivers does not work
[06:54] <Hasrat_USA> although i don't give a squat about playing games. it's just a mere waste of time, although it's necessary for some quick refreshment
[06:54] <intelikey> Filthpig maybe i should be more specific.   edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  it's the line that says     default=0   set it to the listing number of the system you want.
[06:54] <rob_> i ran CSS in wine, wasnt as good as in XP but way better than in Vista ;)
[06:54] <maddog39> u,mm
[06:54] <maddog39> in CSS
[06:55] <maddog39> did u have problems
[06:55] <maddog39> with text
[06:55] <maddog39> in wine
[06:55] <Hasrat_USA> rob CSS?
[06:55] <maddog39> CSS= counter strike soyurce
[06:55] <maddog39> source*
[06:55] <Hasrat_USA> holy crap counter strike runs also?
[06:55] <maddog39> its a game
[06:55] <maddog39> yes
[06:55] <maddog39> i have it working too
[06:55] <Hasrat_USA> yeah i heard of that
[06:55] <maddog39> i have counter strike working
[06:55] <maddog39> but i see absolutely no text
[06:55] <intelikey> !enter | maddog39
[06:55] <maddog39> except
[06:56] <ubotu> maddog39: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:56] <maddog39> i have no clue how to use IRC
[06:56] <Hasrat_USA> if counter-strike runs at present then it would take, at best, some more few months for xine to run almost any 3D game in gnu/linux i can bet confidently.
[06:56] <maddog39> its too complicated
[06:56] <rob_> you need to install some fonts | maddog
[06:56] <maddog39> i did
[06:56] <maddog39> in several places
[06:56] <maddog39> stilll didnt solve anything
[06:56] <Hasrat_USA> they already have full-blown linux versions of Unreal tournament 2004 and quak4 too
 i did <maddog39> in several places <maddog39> stilll didnt solve anything  <<< could and should all be on one line.
[06:57] <rob_> lol, i copied some from windows drive to rob/.wine/cdrive/windows/fonts (or something like that
[06:57] <maddog39> i know, i did that too, but it didnt work
[06:58] <intelikey> thank you
[06:58] <maddog39> just leave me alone please
[06:58] <maddog39> people complaining about how i use irc
[06:58] <Filthpig> rob_: cannot find any default=0
[06:58] <Hasrat_USA> i, for one, don't need to run xine. Ubuntu already came up with enough software to enable me to flawlessly perform my everyday tasks. Running a windows-based application is seriously unnecessary
[06:59] <intelikey> Filthpig it's near the top
[06:59] <enzo_> Now it's time to see if GRUB works
[06:59] <enzo_> YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:59] <maddog39> lol
[07:00] <maddog39> q
[07:00] <maddog39> gaah, it didnt work
[07:00] <intelikey> oh Filthpig it may not be set to 0 it may be something else but it's the line that starts with the word     default
[07:00] <Hasrat_USA> i don't know how people unintentionally/intentionally mess up GRUP, to start with.
[07:00] <Filthpig> rob_, yes found it
[07:00] <Filthpig> rebooting to see what happens now
[07:00] <rob_> if you read the file you'll see it and a explanation
[07:00] <Filthpig> yes
[07:00] <Filthpig> thanks a lot
[07:01] <Filthpig> but... in the event of a kernel upgrade, I guess you have to change the default to i.e. 6
[07:02] <Filthpig> (it's 4 now, but after installing a new kernel you get two more options)
[07:02] <Hasrat_USA> i have a question about the network i'm in. what's the difference between irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net?
[07:02] <intelikey> Filthpig one can move the default entry to the top of the listings and set default to 0  then it "should" remain even through an upgrade
[07:03] <Filthpig> intelikey, yes, that was what I was looking for
[07:03] <Filthpig> but oh well
[07:03] <rob_> filthpig, you could move the windows entry to the top, then it will always be zero
[07:03] <khirr> Starting icecast2
[07:03] <khirr> Detaching from the console
[07:03] <khirr> Could not create listener socket on port 8000
[07:03] <khirr> Server startup failed. Exiting
[07:03] <Filthpig> I guess nobody will touch the linux partition until I come back here to set it up nicely
[07:03] <Filthpig> (need to get the wifi working, but the kid has to sleep now, and the kid sleeps in this room
[07:05] <rob_> BERYL!!! yay its all workin, thankyou sooo much, its gorgeous ;)
[07:05] <intelikey> or as in my particular case having to use a seperate boot partition  (system not on a partition) the boot partition won't be tuched by an upgrade anyway.
[07:07] <knapp> Anyone here familiar with rdesktop?
[07:08] <intelikey> knapp  better to just ask your specific question, or as case may be describe your issue.
[07:10] <knapp> I am trying to use rdesktop coupled with VMWare server to run windows applications. I have the server side seemeless client on the windows install. When I run the rdesktop command from terminal it just sits there and never creates a window.
[07:11] <kristjan_> how do I set logverbose to 6 for xorg?
[07:11] <Skuller> ubotu: !ubotu
[07:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:12] <Skuller> i was wondering if we could edit the factoid for !ubotu and place !ubotu in it....this would undoubtedly create an endless loop
[07:13] <Cugel> It would have got you banned, probably.
[07:13] <agente2012> hi
[07:13] <Skuller> yes i know its unethical...but i wouldnt mind a bit of fun :D
[09:25] (mdtyke/#kubuntu) I already have them
[09:25] (bianconeri/#kubuntu) that worked perfeclty fine intelikey! Thanks man...now all this happened because of no space??
[09:25] <intelikey> well that third forth and fifth party  hehhe
[09:26] <intelikey> of the second part
[09:26] <intelikey> bianconeri yes
[09:26] <intelikey> bumping the end of a partition is never good
[09:27] <bianconeri> ok thanks man! You have been great :)
[09:27] <intelikey> bianconeri if you have any other hd's or unpartitioned space you could add it
[09:27] <bianconeri> ya i was just about to ask you if i could resize it
[09:30] <srecko> yo
[09:30] <bianconeri> but from a live cd?
[09:30] <intelikey> bianconeri that's one area where linux out guns M$ so greatly it's pathetic.   you just make the fs on the space and add a line in /etc/fstab to mount it somewhere as part of the system.    if it's small you might just add it as /tmp  if it's medimum sized maybe as /var or /usr   if it's big as /home     anyway.  you first mount it someplace like /media and move everything over and then remount it to it permanant place...
[09:31] <intelikey> bianconeri don't even need to touch the partition table for what i just said.  and it can be done form the running system.   specially if it's /home you mount it on.     'peace of cake'
[09:32] <bianconeri> Ok so I have another 30 GB untouched now....I want that to be my /home and migrate everything from my existing /home (on hda1) to hda3
[09:32] <billy> ok, i have a little problem i'm hoping you guys can help me with.  my laptop screen is resolution 1400x1050, and i just figured out ubuntu is still running 1280x1024, despite my efforts to make it 1400x1050...
[09:33] <Ryiel> Hey! Can someone point me to a site that describes how to install kde on ubuntu? I don't really like gnome...
[09:34] <srecko> install kubuntu :)
[09:34] <Fizzbane> How do I install Xlink Kai onto kubuntu?
[09:34] <intelikey> bianconeri ok you do this then    sudo -i   that makes you root.    mke2fs -c -j /dev/hda3 && mount /dev/hda3 /media && echo '/dev/hda3 /home defaults 0 0' >> /etc/fstab
[09:35] <srecko> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[09:35] <srecko> @ Ryiel
[09:35] <billy> somehow earlier i figured out that i had to edit my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, so that everything in there is 1400x1050, but, even so, ubuntu still appears to be running in 1280x1024.  any ideas?
[09:35] <Ryiel> thanks!
[09:35] <bianconeri> intelikey: hda3 is already mounted and in fstab....that doesnt change anything
[09:35] <sunnyhours4130> wtf.... this envy thing is not cutting it. I got it installed, and ran it (two processes running /usr/bin/envy -g, and gtkenvy.py    though i see nothing
[09:36] <intelikey> bianconeri then you'll need to umount it first and comment out the line in fstab that pretains to it.
[09:36] <sunnyhours4130> i'm going to try to run it from the command line
[09:37] <Fizzbane> sunnyhours4130: why not manualy install?
[09:38] <sunnyhours4130> not sure what's easiest here
[09:38] <mdtyke> Hey... can anyone tell me how I can enable my CPU stepping in Kubuntu?
[09:39] <mdtyke> My battery drains like you wouldn't believe
[09:39] <sunnyhours4130> i've been having really bad luck with nvidia drivers lately. i've done it on 2 other computers fine. not getting anywhere on this third one
[09:39] <Fizzbane> im a completely new linux user and i sucessfully manualy installed the 9755 nvidia drivers
[09:39] <sunnyhours4130> heh brag brag brag
[09:39] <sunnyhours4130> =P
[09:40] <Fizzbane> meh
[09:40] <sunnyhours4130> what video card do you have?
[09:40] <Fizzbane> 7300gs
[09:40] <sunnyhours4130> hmm
[09:40] <sunnyhours4130> i have the mx 440. i don't think i can use that driver. i guess i tried 9746 and now i can't uninstall it
[09:41] <Fizzbane> ....hmm
[09:41] <sunnyhours4130> yeah
[09:41] <mdtyke> Anyone know?  Cpu stepping.. laptop
[09:41] <intelikey> bianconeri after that there is only three commands  1. init 1  (that will switch the system to single user mode and put in a root console)  2. mv /home/*  /media/   (mv is move )      3. mount -o remount /dev/hda3 /home && init 2   ( that will put you back at the gui login )
[09:41] <Fizzbane> i followed this tut. See if this helps. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy#HOWTO:_Latest_NVIDIA_drivers
[09:42] <intelikey> bianconeri think you can handle that ok ?   cause i need to go,
[09:42] <bianconeri> I already invoked that long command earlier...its performing a test
[09:42] <intelikey> yes it's set to format and check for errors hda3
[09:43] <tuksik-foksik> what is time ?
[09:43] <sunnyhours4130> Fizzbane: i think i already tried that one. i may just wipe the system and start over
[09:43] <intelikey> i supposed ext3 was acceptable fs.
[09:43] <sunnyhours4130> i haven't gotten too far on this
[09:43] <bianconeri> ok just to recap 1-init (just like that nothing else?) 2- move my home (after remounting hda3?)
[09:43] <Fizzbane> alright
[09:43] <intelikey> bianconeri init 1   the number is important
[09:43] <bianconeri> ya i figured :)
[09:44] <intelikey> it switches runlevels
[09:44] <bianconeri> thanks a lot man I am really grateful
[09:44] <intelikey> you bet.    and good luck to your pinguin.
[09:45] <SilentM> Does anyone know where AWN keeps its configuration files?
[09:45] <tuksik-foksik> whois oupa
[09:47] <vxp> Hello
[09:48] <SilentM> Hello
[09:48] <Fizzbane> how do i know what kind of app to download if it gives me options like x86, MIPS, PPC static, PPC dynamic ?
[09:49] <Fizzbane> as different types to download
[09:50] <vxp> You download it for whatever arch your computer is
[09:50] <srecko> x86
[09:50] <billy> does anyone know how to set your display resolution to 1400x1050?  I tried editing my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but that didn't work :(
[09:50] <Fizzbane> how do i know what arch to get?
[09:50] <Chousuke> x86
[09:50] <Chousuke> if you don't know, it's x86
[09:50] <vxp> If you dont know, you're most likely using regular x86
[09:50] <Fizzbane> ok
[09:50] <vxp> Or, you can do uname -a
[09:51] <vxp> vxp@seraphim:~$ uname -a
[09:51] <vxp> Linux seraphim.yoda.im 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:51] <vxp> see that i686 there?
[09:51] <vxp> That "i" is for intel. intel = x86
[09:51] <Fizzbane> so what do i type?
[09:51] <vxp> That's why it's called x86 also.. Because it can be 8086, 386, 586, 686, etc...
[09:52] <vxp> You type uname -a and look at what archecture you're using
[09:52] <Chousuke> AMD's chips are x86 too
[09:52] <vxp> Chou: I'm simplifying it for him
[09:52] <vxp> AMD is x86 compatible
[09:52] <Chousuke> or rather, they implement the x86 instruction sets. :)
[09:52] <vxp> Right
[09:52] <Chousuke> no processor nowadays is internally x86 ;P
[09:52] <Fizzbane> x86_64 is what it says
[09:52] <vxp> So you are using 64 bit
[09:52] <Fizzbane> umm
[09:53] <vxp> That's what you need to get
[09:53] <mdtyke> Is it safe to add Debian Repos to Kubuntu?
[09:53] <Fizzbane> no i installed the 32 bit i believe
[09:53] <Chousuke> mdtyke: no
[09:53] <mdtyke> ok
[09:53] <vxp> I wouldn't recommend installing a 32 bit package on a 64 bit box. If you can't find whatever package, in binary form, built for 64 bit - I'd suggest you get the sources and compile it
[09:54] <Fizzbane> its just a engine thingy
[09:54] <vxp> If it says you have x86_64 then no, you didn't install 32 bit.
[09:54] <vxp> I don't really care what it is
[09:54] <Fizzbane> the kubuntu live disc is 32bit i thought
[09:54] <vxp> Thats wonderful
[09:54] <vxp> [16:54]  <vxp> If it says you have x86_64 then no, you didn't install 32 bit.
[09:54] <Fizzbane> alright
[09:55] <Fizzbane> fine with me
[09:55] <Fizzbane> so do i install the x86 one?
[09:55] <vxp> You can also type: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:55] <vxp> It'll also tell you details about your CPU.
[09:55] <vxp> [16:52]  <vxp> So you are using 64 bit
[09:56] <vxp> [16:53]  <vxp> That's what you need to get
[09:56] <vxp> Refer back to what I typed earlier, if youll just repeat your questions
[09:56] <Fizzbane> it gives me options like x86, MIPS, PPC static, PPC dynamic. which one do i need?
[09:57] <Ryiel> Any sources that's faster than 10kbyte/s? I'm getting annoyed by shitty servers :(
[09:57] <miso> Hi all. Can anyone suggest a quick & dirty way to check if I've got faulty RAM?
[09:57] <sunnyhours4130> there's a ram tester on the ubuntu live cd if you still have it
[09:58] <miso> sunny: Does if run faster than memtest?
[09:58] <Fizzbane> it doesnt give me a 64bit option what do i do now?
[09:59] <Fizzbane> !java
[09:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:04] <scott_> hi!
[10:05] <scott_> can i quest something? (I'm not english so i excuse me for my terrible english)
[10:06] <scott_> it's about the ati acceleration in kubuntu dapper
[10:06] <scott_> there's someone here?
[10:08] <scott_> well, I've got a ati 9200 SE and after to compile the drivers manually i have the mesa driver but not the gl what can i do?
[10:08] <fignew> you want the ati drivers, not mesa
[10:09] <scott_> of course, but it's only i got after read about 5 or 6 howto
[10:10] <scott_> (espaol no habla aki nadie no? y me ahorro la humillacion de hablar eningles estropajoso)
[10:10] <blue_> tried to run beryl on my laptop for shits an giggles and suprise suprise it wouldnt work, had ot restore the backed up xorg.conf file :D
[10:11] <blue_> lol
[10:11] <scott_> fignew do you know some howto that it works really for the GL with an ati in kubuntu dapper?
[10:11] <delight> is there any plans for a k3b 1.0 package release for kubuntu edgy ?
[10:12] <delight> or is there any 3rdparty repo for k3b 1.0 ?
[10:12] <JohnFlux> delight: feisty is out fairly soonish
[10:13] <JohnFlux> hmm
[10:13] <delight> JohnFlux: I know about feisty
[10:13] <JohnFlux> 1 month
[10:13] <delight> and probalby I will upgrade
[10:13] <delight> pretty much like a couple weeks after release
[10:13] <delight> but for know ;)
[10:13] <blue_> i tried fiesty, same as edgy, but wireless wouldnt work on it, back on edgy now
[10:14] <delight> besides i thought feisty is already in the package freaze phase ... so they might ship the old k3b with it
[10:16] <pstryder> Hello folks...how goes it today?
[10:18] <pstryder> Anhyone awke this afternoon?
[10:19] <blue_> i am :P
[10:20] <pstryder> Blue...feel like helping a newbie?
[10:20] <thumper> morning
[10:21] <blue_> whats up man?
[10:21] <blue_> il try
[10:21] <blue_> im pretty new myself though
[10:21] <nagyv> go on pstryder, ask! :)
[10:21] <pstryder> I have an IBM R31 laptop that I installed Kubuntu on.
[10:21] <pstryder> So far, I love it.
[10:21] <pstryder> Only one problem, and it's driving me nuts.
[10:22] <blue_> wireless?
[10:22] <pstryder> WHen I installed the wireless network worked just fine.
[10:22] <blue_> lol
[10:22] <pstryder> Next time I booted up, the wireless adapter doesn't even show up.
[10:22] <pstryder> There is no eth1 listed.
[10:22] <Ash-Fox> pstryder, do this in a terminal, 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop'
[10:23] <blue_> i brb
[10:23] <Ash-Fox> Then open the wireless manager and see if it works.
[10:23] <pstryder> No card
[10:23] <pstryder> Ok, so reload the networking stack and see if it finds the card.
[10:23] <pstryder> BRB
[10:24] <Ash-Fox> No... I said stop the networking daemon..
[10:24] <pstryder> K.
[10:24] <Ash-Fox> I find the network daemon messes with the wireless manager
[10:24] <pstryder> Really...interesting.  WOn't my wired NIC stop then also?
[10:24] <Ash-Fox> Yes
[10:24] <yknott> no
[10:25] <pstryder> That's clear as mud.
[10:25] <pstryder> lol
[10:25] <Ash-Fox> I know it will stop the NIC.
[10:25] <yknott> lol ;)
[10:26] <pstryder> I'll be back.
[10:27] <calcmandan> a friend of mine running 6.06 installed a new video card and now x fails to start. is there an xconfig program he can run to setup the new card?
[10:27] <SilentDis> calcmandan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:28] <SilentDis> calcmandan: also, what vid card is in the machine now?  if it's ati/nvidia, and you prefer to use the binary blob drivers from the company, check out !envy
[10:30] <calcmandan> SilentDis: it is nvidia
[10:30] <calcmandan> SilentDis: installed a card to improve graphics over the onboard card.
[10:30] <SilentDis> calcmandan: might wanna consider checking out !envy then as well.  it downloads and sets up the binary blobs 'perfect every time' :)
[10:32] <pstryder> ok, didn't work
[10:33] <SilentDis> pstryder: what didn't work?  if you were trying to chat on #kubuntu, i'd say it worked perfectly! :D *giggle*
[10:33] <Kevlar> WHich package do I pick to install BERYL through synaptic, or can I?
[10:33] <pstryder> lol
[10:33] <SilentDis> !beryl | Kevlar
[10:33] <ubotu> Kevlar: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <Kevlar> Yes, so, can I?
[10:34] <Hasrat_USA> no you can't
[10:34] <SilentDis> Kevlar: basic instructions are add a repo, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install beryl emerald emerald-themes
[10:34] <Kevlar> darn
[10:34] <Hasrat_USA> nor would you be able to do so in Feisty
[10:34] <Kevlar> hrm how about if I want to install Gnome can I do that through synaptic?
[10:34] <pstryder> Ok, when I try /etc/init.d/network start - eth1 no such device.
[10:35] <Kevlar> Silent thanks, but I assume you mean do that in a console?
[10:35] <SilentDis> Kevlar: gnome is part of ubuntu-desktop package.  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop :)
[10:35] <pstryder> But it did work the first time I booted the system.
[10:35] <Hasrat_USA> Kevlar's instructions couldn't be much simplier and safer given that you know what you're doing and you also know how exactly you installed your video card drivers
[10:35] <Hasrat_USA> oh sorry i meant to say SilentDis
[10:35] <SilentDis> Kevlar: i tend to use console commands here, as they're a lot harder to fsck up :)  you can add the same packages via synaptic if you choose.
[10:35] <Kevlar> welp using a laptop so I dont know which video card is used
[10:35] <Kevlar> I believe its nvidia
[10:36] <SilentDis> Kevlar: drop to a console and type lspci, and give us the output in a !pastebin.  easy to tell that way :)
[10:37] <SilentDis> Kevlar: I should mention, if you see someone say something like "see !paste" or whatever, you can type that command, and ubotu will give you more info if you're not sure :)
[10:37] <Kevlar> oh
[10:37] <Kevlar> interesting
[10:37] <Kevlar> can I install locally held files with synaptic?
[10:38] <SilentDis> Kevlar: not with synaptic directly, it's more for handling packages coming from repos.  there's built in handlers in both gnome and kde that'll take care of .deb packages though.
[10:39] <SilentDis> Kevlar: in gnome, you double click a .deb file and it'll prompt to install.  in kde, right click and choose install :)
[10:39] <Kevlar> I wish everything was .deb
[10:39] <Kevlar> practically nothing is
[10:39] <Kevlar> Realplayer Gold isnt
[10:39] <pollyo> Hello
[10:39] <Kevlar> again its Bin
[10:39] <SilentDis> Kevlar: realplayer, being propriatary and all, is a bit of a pain, but there's alternatives that'll play the files without issue :)
[10:40] <SilentDis> !realplayer | Kevlar
[10:40] <ubotu> Kevlar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:40] <Kevlar> but realplayer is free
[10:40] <kgx> beryl is overrated...i hate it
[10:40] <pollyo> I'm updating somethings with Adept and a window poped (Debconf) up that has an "Incorrect nice value" message.  Anyone familiar with this?
[10:40] <Kevlar> really?
[10:40] <Kevlar> I was told Beryl is like VIsta
[10:41] <pollyo> kgx: Overrated in what way?
[10:41] <SilentDis> Kevlar: i wouldn't say Beryl is like 'vista', but it is darn pretty and fun :)
[10:41] <pollyo> kgx: I do not use it but i was interested in setting it up.
[10:41] <yknott> vista is like beryl?
[10:41] <yknott> you meant?
[10:41] <yknott> wink
[10:41] <yknott> but done in the unix way?
[10:41] <Kevlar> hrm
[10:42] <SilentDis> pollyo: beryl is a toy.  it does not really add any usability, sucks resources, and does nothing but look pretty.  but it does a good job at looking pretty :)
[10:42] <pollyo> SilentDis: Something to be said about things that look pretty.
[10:42] <kgx> pollyo: well its pretty and all, but nothing about it makes me want it. nothing in beryl improves usability
[10:43] <SilentDis> pollyo: agreed, or I wouldn't have installed it.  lol
[10:43] <SilentDis> kgx: very much agreed.  it's an 'extra' that some people think looks cool.  nothing more. :)
[10:43] <pollyo> kgx: I see.
[10:43] <pstryder> I am really loving Kubuntu though...makes me very happy that I can throw all my MS stuff away.
[10:44] <SilentDis> kgx: though, spinning the cube is a rather good pasttime of mine *spins the cube some* lol
[10:44] <yknott> i may install it to have a look at it, but would likely take it off right away
[10:44] <pollyo> how do you install updates using apt?
[10:45] <yknott> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:45] <pollyo> yknott: Thank you.
[10:45] <SilentDis> pollyo: i did a little update script that does it for me, but usually i do: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitdue dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude autoclean
[10:46] <tariq> hi! I'm trying to install wine (I'm using kubuntu edgy eft), but it seems to have conflicts with a "libgphoto2-2" package. what can I do?
[10:46] <sunnyhours4130> anyone know what i need to have in sources.list in order to be able to get module-assistant?
[10:46] <pollyo> SilentDis: What is the aptitude part?
[10:46] <SilentDis> !info module-assistant
[10:46] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.6 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 404 kB
[10:46] <sunnyhours4130> thanks SilentDis    =)
[10:47] <SilentDis> !universe | sunnyhours4130
[10:47] <ubotu> sunnyhours4130: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:47] <tariq> I'm trying to install wine (I'm using kubuntu edgy eft), but it seems to have conflicts with a "libgphoto2-2" package. what can I do?
[10:47] <SilentDis> pollyo: I prefer to use aptitude vs apt-get... it seems to handle dependancies and such a little better, imo.  both work equally well though :)
[10:48] <alectbm> somebody that have experiense with beryl on kubuntu?
[10:48] <alectbm> kubuntu dapper
[10:48] <SilentDis> tariq: I just installed wine myself, but I did so via !backports... no problems.  check !wine for more info, there's probably just something being overlooked like a needed repo :)
[10:48] <sunnyhours4130> d'oh!!! i uncommented out the universe repos and tried to instal it. Now its saying "package module-assistant is not available, but is referred to by another package" package has no installation candidate
[10:48] <sunnyhours4130> *scratch*
[10:49] <sunnyhours4130> this is a fresh install. i must have forgotten something
[10:49] <SilentDis> alectbm: while it is possible to do beryl under dapper... I'd REALLY recommend upgrading to edgy if you insist on it.  the built-in XGL of edgy makes it a LOT easier
[10:49] <alectbm> hmm
[10:50] <pstryder> Is 6.10 considered stable?
[10:50] <SilentDis> pstryder: yep.  has been since october of 2006 :)
[10:50] <alectbm> i tried yesterday not very sucesfull
[10:50] <pstryder> K.
[10:50] <alectbm> i will see what i do
[10:50] <alectbm> but i am going to bed now
[10:51] <SilentDis> alectbm: check out !beryl, the chatroom and website might have more info to help :)
[10:51] <alectbm> the clock here in norway is 11 pm
[10:51] <alectbm> thanx
[10:51] <mdtyke> Hey.. does anyone know if there's an equivalent to SPOTLIGHT for KDE/Kubuntu?
[10:51] <sunnyhours4130> !module-assistant
[10:51] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.6 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 404 kB
[10:51] <mdtyke> ie: for kicker of course
[10:52] <pstryder> So, why doesn't my install see the wireless card that it saw immediately after install?
[10:53] <pstryder> The OS just doesn't think there is a wireless card.
[10:54] <SilentDis> pstryder: i haven't personally had any experiences with wireless under linux yet.  I've got a wired network here at home... having said that, there's some docs at !wireless, and people do report good success with them :)
[10:54] <pstryder> K.  I'll check them out
[10:54] <pstryder> !wireless
[10:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:55] <sunnyhours4130> isn't there a step after adding repo's to the sources.list file before you can actually use them?
[10:55] <sunnyhours4130> some update thing?
[10:55] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: yes, have to update your repo list.  sudo aptitude update
[10:55] <sunnyhours4130> thanks
[10:55] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: nt :)
[10:56] <sunnyhours4130> =)
[10:56] <pstryder> Intersil Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset...
[10:56] <pstryder> ?
[10:57] <sunnyhours4130> prism does make a wireless chipset
[10:57] <sunnyhours4130> that might be it
[10:57] <pstryder> I wonder if when the battery died, the WiFi card quit working?
[10:58] <wrhowc> elow
[10:58] <pstryder> when I first installed, eth1 was the wireless card.
[10:58] <SilentDis> !hi | wrhowc
[10:58] <ubotu> wrhowc: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:58] <pollyo> Do they have video drivers for nvd that would work better then the ones that are installed with kubuntu?
[10:58] <pstryder> now, there is no eth1
[10:58] <tariq> !wine
[10:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:58] <wrhowc> hhe kubuntu owns
[10:58] <sunnyhours4130> wow that envy crap really doesn't want to work for me
[10:58] <SilentDis> !envy | pollyo
[10:58] <ubotu> pollyo: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[10:58] <tariq> !backports
[10:58] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[10:59] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: what problems are you having?  i've used it with much success
[10:59] <wrhowc> om i have on problem
[10:59] <wrhowc> one*
[10:59] <sunnyhours4130> i just used it to try to install the nvidia driver on a fresh install. no dice. the error logs are really bad too. it doesn't say what it failed on
[10:59] <wrhowc> om does kubuntu has firewall
[10:59] <SilentDis> !firewall | wrhowc
[10:59] <ubotu> wrhowc: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:59] <sunnyhours4130> have an mx440 gpu
[11:00] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: I believe that's legacy... are you using the GUI interface or the text based interface?
[11:00] <wrhowc> how do i open ports
[11:00] <sunnyhours4130> text based
[11:00] <sunnyhours4130> i think its legacy too
[11:01] <pstryder> sunnyhours4130: The wireless worked fine when I installed, then the laptop went to sleep due to loss of power.  I plugged it in and it kinda came back up, I preformed a graceful reboot, and now, no card.
[11:01] <sunnyhours4130> weird pstryder
[11:01] <sunnyhours4130> SilentDis: does envy not work with legacy?
[11:01] <pstryder> I'll say
[11:01] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: it should autodetect.  envy -t, then choose option 1.  envy does the rest.
[11:01] <wrhowc> have to go see ya
[11:01] <sunnyhours4130> yeah, that's what i tried. didn't work
[11:02] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: did you get an error message?
[11:02] <sunnyhours4130> lol. here it is!
[11:02] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: if it's long, please use !pastebin :)
[11:03] <sunnyhours4130> "Build log file starting, file: /var/cache/modass/nvidia-kernel-source.buildlog.2.6.17-10generic.1174255367 Date: sun, 18 March 2007 18:02:47 -0400"
[11:03] <SilentDis> pstryder: I've had incidents of my graphics card getting really weird data and causing no end to weird issue till i've cold booted my box.  have you tried a cold boot?
[11:03] <sunnyhours4130> that is absolutely no help. are there any log files that might have more info?
[11:04] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: so, it starts building a log file then fails immediately?
[11:04] <pollyo> SilentDis: That envy looks great but I'm thinking I better wait it doesn't discuss Feisty and that is what I have on this machine.
[11:04] <sunnyhours4130> i guess?
[11:05] <pstryder> I think I found the issue.
[11:05] <SilentDis> pollyo: ahhh, yes.  envy does NOT work with feisty.  check out #kubuntu+1 for help getting the binary blobs in fiesty.  I always assume edgy or dapper while in here :)
[11:05] <pstryder> Now I just remember how to make vi let me type new text into the file
[11:05] <pollyo> SilentDis: OK.  Thanks for the suggestion.
[11:05] <pollyo> BBL
[11:06] <SilentDis> pstryder: rofl i am NOT a fan of vi personally.  I tend to just use nano :)
[11:06] <sunnyhours4130> joe is a real man's text editor
[11:07] <sunnyhours4130> ;-)
[11:07] <pollyo> SilentDis: Ok.. I am also new irc ... IT looks like there is noone in kubuntu+1
[11:07] <pollyo> SilentDis: Is that possible?
[11:07] <Hobbsee> #ubuntu+1
[11:07] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: never used joe...
[11:07] <SilentDis> !info joe
[11:07] <pollyo> Oh....
[11:07] <sunnyhours4130> make sure you get the # in there
[11:07] <ubotu> joe: user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3-5 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 868 kB
[11:07] <pollyo> ubuntu_1
[11:07] <pollyo> +1
[11:08] <SilentDis> pollyo: check out #ubuntu+1 then, and make sure you let them know that no one is around in kubuntu+1, and you are using KDE rather than gnome.  most things (especially the issue you're dealing with) will have the same solutions though :)
[11:08] <pollyo> SilentDis: Will do.
[11:10] <meme-1> I am having a heck of a time making VLC the default player for everything (including FF). Any tips? I am having trouble playing WMV and QuickTime in FF.
[11:10] <meme-1> Thanks to the folks who assisted me with the .rar problem earlier.. Works like a charm now.
[11:10] <SilentDis> meme-1: i haven't had any experiences with that yet.... lets see what ubotu knows...
[11:11] <SilentDis> !vlc
[11:11] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:11] <sunnyhours4130> alright!!! forget envy. i just followed the instructions off the nvidia website and the driver installed piece of cake
[11:11] <sunnyhours4130> envy didn't work for me
[11:12] <SilentDis> sunnyhours4130: cool, glad you got it working!
[11:12] <sunnyhours4130> me too. that was very easy that time
[11:13] <sunnyhours4130> and 8774 worked for my mx440
[11:13] <meme-1> ubotu: I guess that was for me... but I was asking how to make VLC the default video player.
[11:13] <SilentDis> meme-1: kubuntu, right?
[11:14] <meme-1> SilentDis: yes
[11:14] <SilentDis> in Konquerer, Settings > Configure Konquerer, File Associations on the left, and change as needed for audio/media/video on the right
[11:15] <meme-1> Actually I had regular Ubuntu until I installed a bunch of educational apps from Synaptic and the next reboot... I had kubuntu
[11:15] <MostKnown53> hey how do i install kubuntu
[11:15] <meme-1> But functionally, there isn't any diff between kubuntu and ubuntu, right?
[11:16] <MostKnown53> if i install the oem  way can i install all the apps i want
[11:16] <SilentDis> meme-1: you can choose which windows manager you prefer at boot.  on the login screen, click options > sessions, and you can choose kde, gnome, xfce, whatever is installed :)
[11:16] <SilentDis> MostKnown53: what are you running now?
[11:16] <meme-1> I am using gnome.
[11:16] <MostKnown53> i just installed the oem version but i wanted to know can i install what ever i want
[11:17] <RteD> can i install beryl on a RivaTNT2? ;-D
[11:17] <SilentDis> meme-1: there's lots of different ways to do things in both WMs, you can pick which you like best and go with it.  I recently switched to KDE myself :)
[11:17] <SilentDis> MostKnown53: what do you mean by "oem version"?
[11:17] <SilentDis> MostKnown53: did you buy a computer with Ubuntu of some sort pre-installed?
[11:18] <SilentDis> RteD: i'm not sure, actually... if there's drivers for it to work with XGL then yes... but I'm not sure on that card if it's available lol
[11:18] <MostKnown53> no i downloaded the kubuntu cd and i installed the oem version on the menu becuase i didnt know what i was doing
[11:18] <meme-1> SilentDis: I just WISH I could run all programs in GNOME.  I recently wanted to install a X Win program and Synoptic wanted to remove GNOME first.
[11:18] <MostKnown53> i wanted to kno i can install the updates and programs i want
[11:19] <SilentDis> meme-1: most kde apps will run just fine in gnome, with the corrisponding kde libraries to refrence to. you can get gnome back with sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <SilentDis> MostKnown53: what program are you trying to install?
[11:20] <MostKnown53> just any i wanted to know if i installed the right thing when i installed oem from the main menu
[11:21] <frojnd> hello
[11:21] <Hasrat_USA> oh meme-1 I also needed to make VLC the default media player. thanks for asking that question on my behalf :-D
[11:22] <frojnd> is there any site that has list of all beryl commands?
[11:22] <Hasrat_USA> commands?
[11:23] <frojnd> Hasrat_USA: u know ctrl+alt+left arrow
[11:23] <frojnd> shortcuts*
[11:24] <Hasrat_USA> oh
[11:24] <meme-1> But getting back to VLC.... can anyone explain how to make VLC the default media player in FireFox?
[11:25] <pstryder> YEA!
[11:25] <pstryder> Wireless works again!
[11:25] <pstryder> New question
[11:25] <meme-1> Hasrat_USA: Still don't know. lol
[11:25] <pstryder> I have rebooted to find a file named .directory on my desktop.
[11:25] <pstryder> WHat is this, why is it here, and how do I make it not appear anymore?
[11:27] <nagyv> pstryder: .desktop file stores some special details about all of your folders. Probably you have set the "show hidden files" somewhere.
[11:27] <meme-1> Hasrat_USA: (et al) I think I found the answer on how to make VLC the default media player - see this page: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-and-use-the-vlc-media-player-on-ubuntu-linux/
[11:27] <khaije1> prefered python ide anyone?
[11:27] <pstryder> AH!
[11:27] <pstryder> That would be exactly what I did.
[11:27] <pstryder> Thanks
[11:27] <Hasrat_USA> uh really meme
[11:28] <meme-1> still reading it.
[11:28] <pstryder> Now I have to remember where that was.
[11:29] <mrbrdo> guys, what's that command you prepend wine with to get a virtual desktop regardless of what u set with winecfg?
[11:30] <new_to_ubuntu> I have a quick question
[11:30] <new_to_ubuntu> I have just upgraded to feisty
[11:30] <new_to_ubuntu> and I have the main user profile in kubuntu and had another secondary user on ubuntu
[11:30] <new_to_ubuntu> both on the same computer
[11:31] <pstryder> Ah...a clean desktop...better
[11:31] <new_to_ubuntu> well the secondary user does not have the option "shutdown" on the screen that lists the possible options for logging out
[11:32] <new_to_ubuntu> can anybody help me get re-enable the shutdown option on that logout screen?
[11:32] <new_to_ubuntu> better say "logout dialog box"
[11:32] <pstryder> Thanks for the help folks!
[11:34] <meme-1> dang! VLC either doesn't work for wmv or it still isn't defaulting correctly in FF!  I still get "no video" in FF where there is wmv content.
[11:35] <N6REJ> HELP!  hey guys 'n gals, whats the proper way to setup a INTRANET server so that other machines on the lan can call it by name.
[11:37] <meme-1> Harsrat_USA: Still out there?
[11:37] <meme-1> Check this page: http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/01/howto-play-windows-media-video-wmv-in-ubuntu/
[11:37] <meme-1> A little more specific.... at least for playing wmv
[11:41] <meme-1> that reference was useless because the file no longer exists at that location. ARRGH!
[11:42] <muru>  I need some help in changing display manager
[11:43] <muru> The below is what I get :
[11:43] <muru> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:43] <muru> grep: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: No such file or directory
[11:43] <muru> Please be sure to run "dpkg --configure kdm".
[11:43] <muru>  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[11:43] <muru> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[11:44] <muru>  Anyone has any idea how to fix the above ???
[11:44] <stdin> muru: have you run "sudo dpkg --configure kdm" ?
[11:44] <muru>  This is what I get when i run dpkg --configure kdm
[11:44] <muru> 
[11:44] <muru> sudo dpkg --configure kdm
[11:44] <muru> dpkg: error processing kdm (--configure):
[11:44] <muru>  package kdm is already installed and configured
[11:44] <muru> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:45] <muru>  kdm
[11:45] <wsjunior> u typed gdm instead
[11:46] <stdin> muru: you can run "echo /usr/bin/kdm | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager", that would set it to kdm
[11:47] <muru>  the file contents are already /usr/bin/kdm
[11:47] <muru>  I just now checked
[11:48] <muru> %c5 Here is what happens - when my PC starts, it shows KDE login screen and then it starts Xubuntu display manager
[11:49] <muru>  Here is what happens - when my PC starts, it shows KDE login screen and then it starts Xubuntu display manager
[11:49] <stdin> "it shows KDE login screen and then it starts Xubuntu display manager" ? huh, the login screen is the display manager
[11:49] <kmi> hi... does anyone know a way to list the last installed package on kubuntu?
[11:50] <stdin> kmi: look in /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:51] <muru>   Well.. i  guess something is not right then.. it doesnt start KDE after the login screen
[11:51] <kmi> stdin: thanks, it worked
[11:52] <stdin> muru: you have to make sure kde is selected in as the session you want
[11:53] <RteD> where can i get a good tutorial on installing and configuring samba?
[11:53] <muru>  Ok.. i hv to restart my PC to test it.. I will let you know .. thx for ur help
[11:53] <stdin> !samba | RteD
[11:53] <ubotu> RteD: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:53] <crackhead_25> hey there, how do i know if my gamma settings are as close to perfect as can be?
[11:54] <ubuntu> <,k
[11:54] <stdin> crackhead_25: all depends on your monitor, it's type, age, etc..
[11:54] <ubuntu> aloha everyone!
[11:54] <neo_> Ok Konqueror wants to use Kate to automatically open files as I download them from the Internet
[11:55] <crackhead_25> so, how do i know?
[11:55] <mervteck> hey guys
[11:55] <crackhead_25> i have an x2gen 19" from a year or so ago
[11:55] <stdin> neo_: right click, save as ?
[11:55] <neo_> I'll try thhat
[11:56] <N6REJ> anyone know how to set up a kubuntu server so that other machines can recognize apache by name?
[11:56] <neo_> well  htat wont work im trying to get opera from their site and it wont let me righht click
[11:57] <stdin> N6REJ: add the name & ip to the hosts file (in linux /etc/hosts)
[11:57] <neo_> its like there is a messeed up file association
[11:57] <stdin> !opera
[11:57] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[11:57] <neo_> Kate to  binaries
[11:57] <mervteck> I need someones help getting the newest install of wine on my computer, im running edgy and having some probs with the instructions from the winehq site, can ANYONE help me please??
[11:58] <stdin> !wine
[11:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:58] <N6REJ> stdin: i've done that but whenever my wife types in the name "ubuntu" on her mac osX 10.3.9 it load ubuntu.com
[11:58] <stdin> mervteck: instructions there ^^
[11:58] <mervteck> ...
[11:58] <mervteck> i already did them
[11:58] <mervteck> its the errors im getting
[11:58] <neo_> now its working right
[11:58] <mervteck> i need help with them
[11:58] <stdin> N6REJ: that's probably to do with the mac settings, auto adding .com
[11:58] <Alonea> How do I configure my wacom tablet to work correctly with the gimp? It wasn't listed under input devices.
[11:58] <neo_> i tried a different downloaad  site oon the selection
[11:59] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrr
[11:59] <stdin> neo_: got firefox?
[11:59] <wsjunior> does anybody know if the kubuntu artwork for feisty will be different from the herd 5 one?
[11:59] <stdin> wsjunior: ask in #kubuntu-devel
[12:00] <neo_> im geetting firefox too ii like opera alot though
[12:00] <Alonea> #gimp
[12:00] <Alonea> whoops
[12:01] <Alonea> I keep forgetting the stupid join command
[12:01] <neo_> i got it to work now though seems like some of the sites were sending it  as a binary that Kate wanted to open without asking
[12:03] <crackhead_25> ..anyone know if there is an automatic program that can adjust gamma settings to what is perfect for the monitor one has?
[12:03] <wsjunior> I'm having problems with beagle here. it seems that the beagle package was built with the ugly gtk ui so even installing kerry i get two beagle gui's loaded at system startup, kerry and the ugly gtk one. Does anybody know if it is possible to prevent this gtk on from loading or the only way is to recompile beagle without the ui?
[12:05] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[12:06] <neo_> My problem brougght up a question:  Where do I change file type assocciations in Kubuntu
[12:06] <ubuntu> when i download the kubuntu   dvd are there programs on the cd that i can install because it gives me no option to install more software
[12:07] <wsjunior> neo_: kde control center at kde components -> file associations
[12:07] <neo_> Thankks
[12:08] <ubuntu> anyone know when im going to get to install programs if they are on the dvd
[12:08] <utnubuk> ubuntu: i think there are some packages that you can get by activating the cd as a 'repo,' but they mostly relate to compiling i guess.
[12:09] <ubuntu> lol so i downloaded a 4gb dvd and its nothing on it
[12:09] <deiwales> hi, will feisty have the kicker menu?
[12:11] <most_known53> ?????
[12:11] <deiwales> like opensuse 10.2?
[12:12] <most_known53> im trying to find out y a 4gb dvd has not menu where i install software at
[12:12] <stdin> deiwales: never used opensuse, what "kicker menu) are you on about?
[12:13] <deiwales> it's not like the normal KDE menu