[12:01] <aild> what program can I use to create a torrent file... someone know?
[12:01] <erUSUL> francois: enable multiverse
[12:01] <linuxnewbie755> aild, azuerus
[12:01] <brophat> my brother is converting over from windows, he is in another state. he can't find the video card entry on dmesg. I don't use ubuntu so i don't know how it looks on ubuntu. what does it look like?
[12:01] <DidRocks_test> Does someone know why when I send PM in Xirc ou gaim, nobody receive my messages contrary to the chan ? (but I can receive PM from others ...)
[12:01] <Sebboh> the vmware uninstall script should be in /usr/bin .. look for *vm*.pl ..
[12:01] <Ohana> asc: honestly im not sure. i bought it probably just under 1 year ago, and i think at that time it retailed for about $500, so i spose not to old
[12:01] <Ohana> too*
[12:01] <Sebboh> to cheese: the vmware uninstall script should be in /usr/bin .. look for *vm*.pl ..
[12:01] <francois> Sebboh: maybe i shouldn't run the generic,
[12:02] <erUSUL> ubotu tell francois about java | francois see priv msg from ubotu
[12:02] <livingdaylight> void^: does this look better? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10829/ is there anything else i should uncomment?
[12:02] <francois> Sebboh: maybe i shouldn't run the generic ?
[12:02] <Ohana> asc: ive been running openSuSe 10.2 prior to this without these issues, so do you still think its the card?
[12:02] <Sebboh> francois, the generic?  I dunno, I use sun java.  Thanks erUSUL..
[12:02] <brophat> what does the video card entry look like on dmesg?
[12:03] <jason_> hello, trying to get video out working on my mt6821 laptop.  it uses the intel graphic media accelerator 950.  cany anyone give me a link to how to get this working
[12:03] <cheeseboy> Sebboh, i installed from apt-get
[12:03] <recon39> can someone help me I am trying to get a dvd to play on ubuntu edgy and I get this error message "No URI handler implemented for "dvd"."
[12:03] <asc> Ohana: Probably not.  It's surely possible to get the card working, but ATI cards have in my experience been a little tricky.
[12:03] <Ohana> asc: dang, i thought you were gonna say that
[12:03] <cellofellow> My dad has a Pentax *ist D digital camera. He likes to shoot with the RAW file format. Is there any software that would process those files?
[12:03] <kalin> asc, yeah, its apt-gettig successfully now
[12:03] <Sebboh> I didn't know that we had an apt-get for vmware anything.. other than the vmware interesting exciting widgets..
[12:04] <Sebboh> (VIEW)
[12:04] <Ohana> asc: im just installing vmware now. i figure i could make a virtual machine to play with as opposed to rebooting all the time :s
[12:04] <void^> livingdaylight: should work
[12:04] <cheeseboy> Sebboh, ther vmware player in apt
[12:05] <thak> recon:  have you checked out ubuntuguide?  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[12:05] <c01100011> upgraded kernel to smp-686, it does not show up in grub even after grub-update. any advice ?
[12:05] <asc> Ohana: Haven't come across a whole lot of useful information yet, but there is a report of that card working with the 'vesa' driver - probably worth a try.
[12:05] <Sebboh> btw, in case any of you thought you'd build a single machine that could run any sort of virtual machine by running vmware on a xen host..  Give it up.  The vmware kernel modules are incompatible with the xen kernel.  It GPFs. =(
[12:05] <kalin> asc, hmm i can't run sysv-rc-conf after running chroot
[12:05] <recon39> yes I have and I am trying to install everything but it dont work
[12:05] <Ohana> asc: sounds like a plan
[12:06] <livingdaylight> void^: how can i test it now? ^^
[12:06] <asc> kalin: Yech, I'll try to remember how to use that.
[12:06] <Poul^Laptop> anyone able to help me to setup so i can see the windows partions of my hardisk, back when i had edgy i could see them as standart
[12:06] <thak> recon: sorry, man.  i don't know what to tell you--it worked for me :(
[12:06] <Poul^Laptop> cant see them anymore
[12:06] <Sebboh> cellofellow, use the 'file' utility on the 'raw' files and see what they are.  The camera might be saving TIFF files and calling them .raw ...
[12:07] <kalin> its working ok normally, just not after chroot'ing. ah, i will try and update the repositories from there too
[12:07] <void^> livingdaylight: go to your windows pc, open some explorer window, type \\hostname in the address bar, with hostname being your linux pc's host name
[12:07] <Sebboh> d'oh, I should work on the truck while it's light out.. The PC can wait. =)  peace.
[12:07] <cellofellow> Sebboh: no, they're not TIFF. I found dcraw.
[12:07] <kalin> hmm, synaptic doesn't want to startup from the chroot'ed term, is there some way i can add the repositories from command line?
[12:07] <Marsmensch__> anyone remembers odigo?
[12:08] <jrib> !repos | kalin
[12:08] <ubotu> kalin: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:08] <c01100011> upgraded kernel to smp-686, it does not show up in grub even after grub-update. any advice ?
[12:08] <kalin> thanks
[12:08] <clearzen> kalin:gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:08] <Ohana> asc: alright, ill try reconfiguring xserver to use vesa drivers and ill see what happens
[12:08] <asc> Ohana: Good luck.  Agian. :p
[12:09] <asc> *again
[12:09] <Ohana> asc: vmware is taking its sweet time :s thanks mate :)
[12:09] <livingdaylight> void^: so, open some firefox works too? what is my linuxpc's hostname?
[12:10] <void^> livingdaylight: no, firefox won't work. you need windows' file browser thingie. and if you don't remember your hostname, run 'hostname' on a terminal.
[12:10] <recon39> when I try to install livdvd2 it tells me they are kept back for some reason
[12:10] <Yeason> I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10 on an old ibook but the computer isn't showing the cd at the boot selection screen. anyone know what might be goin on?
[12:10] <Heroin> lease do your best to ensure no one can become this user. We'll call the account "virtual". Add it any way you want to the system (eg, useradd) and make note of it's uid and gid.
[12:10] <Heroin> how would i do this?
[12:10] <clearzen> recon39:sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:11] <livingdaylight> void^: oh...host is the name i gave my box it looks like...no problem. Ok, good i kept xp on my laptop then
[12:11] <kalin> ok, so i added the universe and multiverse servers to my sources.list, but apt-get install sysv-rc-conf doesn't seem to find an installation candidate still. I ran apt-get update too, with no luck
[12:11] <c01100011> happy st pats day everyone, i have a peculiar problem. T60p installed 686-smp kernel (apt-get install  linux-68....) rebooted, it isn't in the grub menu. Did a grub-update, still not there. tried all options there doing uname-r they are all what they say they are (not 686-smp)
[12:11] <psygrass> hi... when i try to watch online video stream i got this message: (Can't parse that). what does that mean? by the way i use VLC with firefox plugin
[12:12] <Guerra> you should better use MPlayer with the firefox plugin, i think
[12:12] <clearzen> c01100011: you can add it by hand to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:12] <livingdaylight> void^: explorer said it couldn't find \\Dune
[12:12] <asc> kalin: You're doing that while chrooted to /mnt/ubuntu
[12:12] <brynk> anyone here to successfully setup bluetooth headphones?
[12:13] <asc> *?
[12:13] <kalin> asc, yeah
[12:13] <covert> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu on a computer that can't boot from cd?  I've tried SmartBootManager(SMB), but it won't detect the cd drive.
[12:13] <asc> kalin: When you installed sysv-rc-conf on the livecd, did it have any dependencies that it also installed?
[12:13] <IndyGunFreak> whats the channel for beryl support?
[12:14] <clearzen> covert:you can either use a usb drive or a network install
[12:14] <covert> #ubuntu-effects
[12:14] <covert> or #beryl
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> covert: trhanks
[12:14] <Guerra> @Covert: the cheapest solution would be to buy a cd rom drive, really
[12:14] <kalin> asc, yeah, 3 perl libraries
[12:14] <c01100011> clearzen, 686 smp is not in /boot
[12:14] <Yeason> I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on an old ibook but the computer isn't showing the cd at the boot selection screen. anyone know what might be wrong?
[12:14] <Poul^Laptop> is there a wroking wine out for fiesty?
[12:14] <brophat> does ubuntu have the lspci command?
[12:14] <covert> Guerra: I have a cd rom drive...but the bios won't let me boot from it
[12:15] <void^> livingdaylight: does your network work? can you ping the ip?
[12:15] <Fujitsu> Poul^Laptop: Was it not working?
[12:15] <somniis> brophat: yes
[12:15] <kalin> asc, is there some conf file that controls all this stuff that i can modify manually?
[12:15] <clearzen> c01100011:it's my understanding that kernel is obsolete now and is instead -generic branch.
[12:15] <asc> kalin: This is me grinning mischeviously.
[12:15] <brophat> somniis how about on live cd?
[12:15] <Poul^Laptop> dont know, just when i saw the deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main (Edgy Systems)
[12:15] <Jetfighter> Does Ubuntu have a PHP Interpreter?
[12:15] <livingdaylight> void^: from the xp laptop?
[12:15] <Poul^Laptop> if thers any for fiesty or
[12:15] <Fujitsu> Jetfighter: Of course.
[12:15] <somniis> brophat, i don't know, but i would think so
[12:15] <Jetfighter> Ok
[12:16] <Fujitsu> The php5 package will do fine.
[12:16] <Fujitsu> libapache2-mod-php5 if you want it in Apache.
[12:16] <Guerra> covert: ye could erase the bios memory.. otherwise, ye could do a network install, but i never did one, so can't help you
[12:16] <void^> livingdaylight: doesn't really matter. ping the xp box from linux or the linux box from xp.
[12:16] <clearzen> c01100011: I am assuming you want dual core support right?
[12:16] <sasch> hi all any users have courier pop3 with mysql ??
[12:16] <mkquist> IndyGunFreak - i believe its #ubuntu-effects
[12:16] <brophat> somniis one more question. i think lspci is a root command, do i need to get to root on live cd to use it?
[12:16] <asc> kalin: The programs to be started and stopped for runlevel 2 are in /etc/rc2.d . It may be possible to modify them manually, but I don't know how.
[12:16] <Fujitsu> brophat: You don't need root access.
[12:16] <c01100011> clearzen, yep and i think i have it as they both show up in /proc/cpuinfo
[12:16] <brophat> ok thanks
[12:17] <Fujitsu> c01100011: All non-386 Ubuntu kernels since Dapper support SMP.
[12:17] <clearzen> c01100011: yeah if cat /proc/cpuinfo shows both of them you have it
[12:17] <livingdaylight> void^: ok, how? *gulp
[12:17] <Poul^Laptop> fujitsu : deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main (Edgy Systems)  that work for fiesty also?
[12:18] <Fujitsu> Poul^Laptop: I don't know why you'd want to, as we have the latest Wine in universe anyway.
[12:18] <Poul^Laptop> fujitsu, well i dont know, thats just the one i could find
[12:18] <asc> kalin: While *not* chrooted to /mnt/ubuntu, run 'cp /var/cache/apt/archives/* /mnt/ubuntu/var/cache/apt/archives'.  Then, while chrooted, run apt-get install sysv-rc-conf.
[12:18] <Fujitsu> Poul^Laptop: You don't need any extra apt repositories.
[12:18] <livingdaylight> void^: in command line i just type ping <ip address> ?
[12:18] <kalin> asc, ah nice one
[12:19] <void^> livingdaylight: yes.
[12:19] <asc> kalin: And if apt-get doesn't work, then, while chrooted, run ''dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/sysv-rc-conf.deb'
[12:19] <Poul^Laptop> fujitsu, i am not that much into linux. And never worked with wine before, so i am just lost to how to install it
[12:19] <asc> kalin: Also, sacrificing a small animal might help.
[12:19] <indgo> Hi gang, if I have the Nvidia GForce FX 5200, do I install the Nvidia Legacy drivers or the regular Nvidia Oficial drivers?
[12:20] <c01100011> clearzen, - thanks a lot. everything is starting to add up. under the 386 kernel the fan was spinning and the laptop was still burning my lap. with both cpus it is running cool and silent. i put that one cpu under some nasty abuse playing with beryl ; hehe
[12:20] <Fujitsu> Poul^Laptop: Open up the package manager (Synaptic) and find the wine package.
[12:20] <Fujitsu> !wine | Poul^Laptop
[12:20] <ubotu> Poul^Laptop: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:20] <livingdaylight> void^: to find the ip address i use www.ip-adress.com And obviously the ip address is the same for both my linux desktop and xp laptop
[12:20] <kalin> asc, ah, almost... its failing to deal with the dependent libraries :/
[12:21] <IceGuest_7> hey everyone, my ubuntu is totally useless. i'm very frustrated. it won't load past the login screen. can anyone help me? I don't want windows anymore!! >.<
[12:21] <terlmann> yea
[12:21] <terlmann> Ill help ya
[12:21] <IceGuest_7> thank you
[12:21] <terlmann> whats the prob ?
[12:21] <clearzen> IceGuest_7: do you have a laptop or desktop?
[12:21] <IceGuest_7> i have a toshiba sattelite P10. laptop
[12:21] <livingdaylight> void^: so, i've done ping 82.45.205.43 from my linux command line but i don't know if it is pinging. I am getting constant stream of times scrolling down
[12:21] <asc> kalin: That's strange; they should have been put into the apt cache when you installed them on the livecd
[12:22] <clearzen> IceGuest_7: Does it give you any errors?
[12:22] <kalin> asc, ah, its ok, i dpkg'd in reverse dep order and now i have sysv-rc-conf running
[12:22] <IceGuest_7> it loads everything until nautiulus i think, no errors, it fails to load any kind of useable GUI past the login screen
[12:22] <granden> Hi
[12:22] <IceGuest_7> i get a background image at most
[12:22] <granden> If I can't play two sound at the same time
[12:22] <void^> livingdaylight: err, 82.45.205.43 isn't a local ip.
[12:22] <asc> kalin: Ah.  Now scroll down to the entry for 'gdm', move over to runlevel 2, and press space to disable it.
[12:22] <Xzenome> Hi, where do the logs etcetera for wireless networking live
[12:22] <clearzen> IceGuest_7: can you still type in a terminal after it crashes or does it lock up the entire laptop?
[12:22] <kalin> asc, i need to figure out how to set the default runlevel and how to change runlevels so i can start up each manually now, i think
[12:22] <granden> and one program uses oss and I cant change
[12:22] <granden> and then I use alsa-oss
[12:23] <john_> Testing
[12:23] <granden> but still not working to use both sounds at once
[12:23] <granden> Would it be helped to buy a card with hardware mixing?
[12:23] <livingdaylight> void^: aahhhh...how do i get local ip then?
[12:23] <void^> livingdaylight: you should ping the other computer's local ip on the network, presumably starting with 10. or 192.
[12:23] <IceGuest_7> clearzen: it doesnt crash or anything, i just doesnt load anything, how can i get to the terminal? is there a keyboard shortcut?
[12:23] <xtknight> Sebboh: hm not sure man
[12:23] <newbuntwo> hi. i have a machine that's winxp, but it was installed dual-boot with debian sarge, which is not being used.  can i get the  installer from the livecd to install to the debian partitions without touching the winxp partition?
[12:23] <void^> livingdaylight: on the linux box you can type 'ifconfig' to see all network connections and the associated ips
[12:23] <Mirth> Can anyone help me with a networking problem?
[12:23] <quaal> can linux actually copy files that are in use?
[12:23] <blackend> hi
[12:23] <livingdaylight> void^: oh... i think my local ip is 192.168.1.1
[12:23] <clearzen> IceGuest_7: yeah, ctrl + alt + F1
[12:24] <funpop> whats the command line to shutdown my computer in 3 hours ?
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: i've moved files that were in use.
[12:24] <clearzen> IceGuest_7: that should take you to a terminal
[12:24] <asc> kalin: apparently 'sudo telinit runlevel' changes the runlevel.
[12:24] <quaal> IndyGunFreak, oh
[12:24] <quaal> my
[12:24] <quaal> god
[12:24] <quaal> it cant be !!
[12:24] <IceGuest_7> clearzen: okay, but what do i do then?
[12:24] <blackend> what ??
[12:24] <terlmann> shutdown -time 360
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:24] <granden> Anyone?
[12:24] <kalin> asc, oh, not the default
[12:24] <quaal> when will windows get rid of its stupid ntfs bullshit ?
[12:24] <funpop> terlmann, 360 are 6 hours ?!?!
[12:24] <kalin> there goes gdm, lol
[12:24] <quaal> anyone
[12:24] <clearzen> IceGuest_7: login and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:24] <granden> When do I need hardware mixing ?
[12:24] <livingdaylight> void^: is it inet addr:192.168.1.103?
[12:24] <clearzen> IceGuest_7: tell me if that works
[12:25] <Mirth> My Wireless Connection isn't detecting any networks on its own.  Anyone know what that might be?
[12:25] <asc> kalin: Still working on the default.  It looks like you can change it by adding it to the kernel line in /boot/grub/*lst , or there may be a way to add an inittab to edgy.
[12:25] <terlmann> 180
[12:25] <Ab3L> ubuntu es?
[12:25] <terlmann> eehehe
[12:25] <IceGuest_7> clearzen: okay, may i PM you from here on? my computers are in 2 different rooms i will have trouble keeping track of this conversation
[12:25] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: i've downloaded videos to my desktop, started watching them(mostly tv shows), realized i wanted to keep it, then moved it to a folder in my home folder that i back up once a week, never a problem... keeps playing.
[12:25] <clearzen> IceGuest_7: thats fine
[12:25] <livingdaylight> void^: inet addr:192.168.1.103  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[12:25] <c01100011> all of my terminals are filled with colored scan lines (X garbage)  possible reasons why ?
[12:25] <granden> Anyone?
[12:25] <newbuntwo> will the livecd safely install dual-boot on a winxp machine?
[12:25] <snowpunk98> I miss utorrent is there anything good for linux like that
[12:25] <quaal> IndyGunFreak, amazing.
[12:25] <cheeseboy> how do i delete a folder from command line?
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: not sure how it does it, but ive done it several times w/o a problem
[12:26] <quaal> cheeseboy, rm -rf
[12:26] <jrib> quaal: you can delete files in use and your player will still play them too
[12:26] <asc> kalin: We've been on this for a while, we're trying to start without GDM so you can run the configuration tool, right?
[12:26] <Mirth> My Wireless Connection isn't detecting any networks on its own. Anyone know what that might be?
[12:26] <kalin> asc, i think i have gdm running now from the chroot'd setup, is there some way to check where your root is?
[12:26] <livingdaylight> void^: so, i am now doing 'ping 192.168.1.103
[12:26] <quaal> IndyGunFreak, im backing up my entire music drive right now
[12:26] <quaal> while playing music from it
[12:26] <quaal> its an ntfs drive
[12:26] <quaal> which is about to be ext3'd
[12:26] <kalin> asc, well, it would hang during startup so i wanted to see what it was stopping on and just start in a shell
[12:27] <Mirth> Any Ubuntu chat rooms that aren't busy and I can get some help from?
[12:27] <newbuntwo> anyone??
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: how exactly does it do that?.. i can only imagine it must put the file in your swap or something, until its done playing...
[12:27] <jrib> Mirth: ask here
[12:27] <kalin> then i need to figure out why grub isn't booting properly
[12:27] <Mirth> I did twice :(
[12:27] <snowpunk98> WTB good torrent client
[12:27] <asc> kalin: You can only have one copy of GDM running at a time, and if you're in graphical mode that's the one.  So probably the chrooted one is not running.
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> snowpunk98: ktorrent and bittorrent are fine... azeurus is good.
[12:27] <Mirth> There's just too much talking, hehe...
[12:28] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: it unlinks the file but it's still there and the program knows where it is
[12:28] <kalin> asc, ok, so telinit will change my runlevel, do you know how i can change the default?
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: lol, wonder if vista does tat?...lol
[12:28] <Jetfighter> How do I run a PHP Script?
[12:28] <asc> kalin: At about what point during startup does it freeze?  Do you see the splash screen?
[12:28] <Fujitsu> !php | Jetfighter
[12:28] <ubotu> Jetfighter: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:28] <CluessGuy> Mirth: yup it is pretty busy.  Let's try talking about your wireless card problems and maybe we'll get an answer
[12:28] <Poul^Laptop> Anyone who can help me acces my harddisks. After i updatet to fiesty, i cant see the fat32 parts of the hardisk
[12:28] <Fujitsu> Jetfighter: See that link.
[12:28] <clearzen>  kalin: you can have multiple x sessions though. use something like startx --:1 to start it in a different terminal
[12:28] <Mirth> Okay
[12:28] <Jetfighter> I got LAMP, that don't help >.>
[12:29] <Pooky> meh, I cannot get my stupid m4a files to play >.<
[12:29] <bayziders> Is there a spotlight like program for ubuntu?
[12:29] <asc> ...can you run X from a chrooted environment?
[12:29] <Fujitsu> !restrictedformats | Pooky
[12:29] <ubotu> Pooky: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:29] <asc> that would be so cool
[12:29] <Mirth> The device says "eth1", but isn't Wireless supposed to be "wlan0"?
[12:29] <c01100011> bayziders,  beagle
[12:29] <jrib> Mirth: I understand, but you will have a better change in a room with a lot of people.  Just try again every 15 minutes until someone knows how to help you.  You can also try the forums and mailing list or browse the wiki while you wait
[12:29] <bayziders> thanks
[12:29] <Fujitsu> Mirth: It depends on the driver. Intel comes up as eth1, among ohters.
[12:29] <bayziders> is it in synpac?
[12:29] <CluessGuy> Mirth: do you don't see networks?
[12:29] <Fujitsu> *others
[12:29] <Mirth> Okay, I think it's an intel
[12:29] <gordonjcp> bayziders: haven't played with spotlight, but it looks like a bit like beagle
[12:29] <Fujitsu> Mirth: Does iwconfig give anything useful?
[12:29] <brophat> fellas, we have an ATI Radeon 9200 Pro (RV280) video card. seems like the live cd is not doing so well with it. anything we can do?
[12:29] <helfrez> beagle is about the same
[12:29] <xtknight> Sebboh: try this package: equivs
[12:29] <Mirth> Never tried iwconfig
[12:30] <helfrez> get the deskbar-applet
[12:30] <snowpunk98> IndyGunFreak, which is ligher
[12:30] <xtknight> !info equivs | Sebboh
[12:30] <Jetfighter> How do I run a PHP Script?
[12:30] <ubotu> sebboh: equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[12:30] <snowpunk98> lighter
[12:30] <helfrez> and add python-beagle for beagle live search
[12:30] <Mirth> Im new to Ubuntu, so I'll try that
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> snowpunk98: ?.. lighter?
[12:30] <asc> kalin: You can change the runlevel by adding the desired level to the kernel line in /boot/grub/*lst, e.x. 'kernel          '/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17.14-ubuntu1-686-3 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet 1'
[12:30] <bayziders> I should of phrased my question diffrent. Is there a live search program that is built into a pannel for linux?
[12:30] <Fujitsu> Mirth: Run lspci, and look for an Intel Ethernet controller in the list.
[12:30] <kalin> asc, ok, what i think i want to do now is install grub to my primary boot partition so that i can try booting normally without a boot cd of any kind
[12:30] <kalin> ahh, thanks
[12:30] <Jetfighter> Do I run a PHP script by php filename.php?
[12:30] <Mirth> And Cluess Guy, I don't see any networks in the drop down box, but I manually typed "linksys" and it connected
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> snowpunk98: i'm not really sure, probably bittorrent, as ktorrent seems more robust, but i don't think either are to hard on resources
[12:30] <helfrez> bayziders, i just told u
[12:30] <Mirth> Will try that too Fujitsu
[12:30] <bayziders> I know
[12:31] <xtknight> Jetfighter: i suggest you read up on PHP.  it's a server-side script
[12:31] <asc> kalin: You can also get a more verbose startup sequence by removing the words 'splash' and 'quiet' from that line.
[12:31] <xtknight> Jetfighter: you can not execute it locally
[12:31] <bayziders> I just re phrased my question cause im board
[12:31] <bayziders> =\
[12:31] <funpop> !sudo
[12:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:31] <Jetfighter> xtknight: I need to run this script. Just tell me how to run it please.
[12:31] <c01100011> there is a beagle deskbar ?
[12:31] <Jetfighter> How do I theme?
[12:31] <Jetfighter> then*
[12:31] <funpop> whats gksu of kde ?
[12:31] <CluessGuy> Mirth: Well, that is encouraging that you can connect when you specify the ssid.  I'm stuck.  Anyone?
[12:31] <crimsun_> funpop: kdesu
[12:31] <helfrez> gnome-applet called deskbar
[12:31] <funpop> thanks
[12:31] <livingdaylight> void^: are you still there?
[12:31] <Mirth> Yeah, it's weird
[12:32] <kalin> asc, ah, i think that's what i want... the other thing is that grub references drives as hd0/hd1 etc, is there some way to see how these map to /dev/ drives?
[12:32] <helfrez> install python-beagle and you should have a plugin called beagle live you can enable
[12:32] <MaximusBrood> Does anyone know of a good GUI partition manager capable of formatting into FAT or NTFS?
[12:32] <helfrez> hotkey it to alt-space and oyou have ur own spotlight
[12:32] <kalin> i know i want to boot from sdb1, and i think it's hd3, but i'm not sure
[12:32] <Jetfighter> xtknight: I need to run this script. Just tell me how to run it please.
[12:32] <asc> kalin: grub-install /path/to/device should do that.  Also, overwriting the boot area is something that should be done carefully
[12:32] <Fujitsu> MaximusBrood: gparted
[12:32] <xtknight> Jetfighter: because i can't explain it in one sentence.  you need to host a web server that has php extensions, and you need to request the php page from a web browser.
[12:32] <brophat> does driver exist for ATI Radeon 9200 Pro (RV280) video card?
[12:32] <void^> livingdaylight: so, does ping work?
[12:32] <MaximusBrood> Thanks
[12:32] <asc> kalin: hd0 = hda, hd1 = hdb
[12:32] <kalin> asc, yeah, i have a boot cd to get back to my windows box in case of emergency :)
[12:32] <Jetfighter> I installed LAMP, how do I run it?
[12:33] <xtknight> Jetfighter: it's not like i'm trying to insult you by telling you to read the docs on it.  PHP is drastically different than what you seem to think it is, that's all.
[12:33] <kalin> asc, so it counts hd[a-z]  then sd[a-z]  in sequence?
[12:33] <Fujitsu> Jetfighter: Where have you put the PHP script?
[12:33] <Jetfighter> I saved it in Desktop
[12:33] <livingdaylight> void^: how do i know its working? i've got all these times scrollingdown
[12:33] <Ab3L> Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0302 WebCam is supported for ubuntu?
[12:33] <Mirth> I'm new to Ubuntu, but where do I find the like, "Run" to put in ifconfig?
[12:33] <Ab3L> i cannot read /dev/video0
[12:33] <gordonjcp> Jetfighter: what's the script?
[12:33] <Poul^Laptop> now we talking about hd0, hd1 and whatnot. help me access those, i can only see my hd4 or something i think, the partion which my linux is on. swap is on hd3 i think. Cant see hd1 and hd2 which are window(fat32)
[12:33] <Ab3L> someone ?
[12:34] <gordonjcp> Ab3L: have you tried googling?
[12:34] <liquiddoom> Ab3L: run it as root?
[12:34] <Fujitsu> Mirth: Open up a terminal, under Applications->Accessories
[12:34] <Jetfighter> gordonjcp: It is a PHP Script that connects to IRC. It;s a bot
[12:34] <IceGuest_7> clearzen: i PMed you
[12:34] <Ab3L> i tried everything
[12:34] <gordonjcp> Jetfighter: then it sounds like it would use php from the command line
[12:34] <asc> kalin: The drive letters and numbers may be related to their physical position on the data cables - my second HD is on the second ATA bus, and it's device is /dev/hdc
[12:34] <Mirth> Okay, thatnks Fujitsu
[12:34] <Fujitsu> Jetfighter: What does said bot do?
[12:34] <helfrez> Jetfiighter, php -f /peth/to/file
[12:34] <Jetfighter> tell me command? File name is bot.php
[12:34] <Ab3L> i've installed ubuntu in other machine and the webcam it works
[12:34] <snowpunk98> Isnt it bad to install K applications on Gnome
[12:34] <bayziders> How do I luanch beagle?
[12:34] <kalin> asc, ah i see. ok, so is it safe to grub-install /dev/windows-hdd-partition ?
[12:34] <Fujitsu> snowpunk98: No.
[12:34] <Ab3L> but in this machine not works
[12:34] <soundray> snowpunk98: no
[12:35] <xtknight> kalin: no
[12:35] <void^> livingdaylight: that's probably good, then. try \\ip on windows, ip being the linux box's ip address.
[12:35] <Ab3L> $ sudo camstream
[12:35] <Ab3L> Password:
[12:35] <Ab3L> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:35] <kalin> ok, i'm not sure how to setup grub as the default boot loader then, my windows partition is on the primary partition that is being booted from
[12:35] <Ab3L> sorry
[12:35] <asc> kalin: I'm with xtknight.
[12:35] <Mirth> Is there an equivalent to a Device Manager in Ubuntu?
[12:35] <xtknight> kalin: installing grub on a windows partition's boot sector is actually a really bad idea.  it can corrupt the partition in some cases.  you want grub on the mbr, or the boot sector of a linux partition
[12:35] <Jetfighter> I type php, it says it is not a command
[12:35] <gordonjcp> Mirth: what are you trying to do?
[12:35] <Fujitsu> Jetfighter: Have you installed php5?
[12:35] <gordonjcp> Jetfighter: ... then you don't have php installed
[12:36] <Fujitsu> php5-cli, sorry.
[12:36] <helfrez> ubuntu needs to split up the main channel lol...to many people in one room, its choatic
[12:36] <asc> xtknight: So it would be grub-install /dev/first-boot-drive (e.g. hda)?
[12:36] <gordonjcp> Jetfighter: as Fujitsu says
[12:36] <Poul^Laptop> ab3l, what applications do you use for your webcam, i have webcam in this laptop, just never got it used/installed any applications for it
[12:36] <xtknight> kalin: to specify the mbr (Master Boot Record, 512 bytes and outside of other partitions), you need to specify a disk drive device like sdb, not a partition like sdb1
[12:36] <Mirth> I want to reinstall my Wireless Card so maybe it'll detect networks gordonjcp
[12:36] <xtknight> asc: yup
[12:36] <gordonjcp> Mirth: hm, don't know about wireless cards.  What kind is it?
[12:36] <Fujitsu> helfrez: It gets a whole lot worse than waht it is now.
[12:36] <livingdaylight> void^: WoaH!!!
[12:36] <soundray> helfrez: it's fine, just use nick-based highlighting
[12:36] <psygrass> hi.. when i use the synaptic manager i got this message (E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1). what does that mean ?? please
[12:36] <Mirth> Intel, on a laptop
[12:36] <livingdaylight> void^: i can see my linux box!!!
[12:36] <Mirth> Not sure what model or anything
[12:37] <Ab3L> Poul^Laptop: i use camstream, kopete, camorama, and not works anyway
[12:37] <kalin> ok, that makes sense, let me try that
[12:37] <Mirth> When I installed Ubuntu bout a month ago, it was fine
[12:37] <gordonjcp> Mirth: I've not really played with wifi on Ubuntu, sorry
[12:37] <livingdaylight> void^: OMG! Wicked! Thank You!
[12:37] <Fujitsu> Mirth: Run `lsmod | grep ipw'
[12:37] <soundray> Ab3L: did you say the *same* camera works on another computer?
[12:37] <Jetfighter> I justdid << sudo apt-get install php5 >> but it still says it
[12:37] <helfrez> im well aware of how bad it gets and nick based highlighting, that dosnt change the fact that 1000+ people in one room is a mess  lol
[12:37] <Fujitsu> Jetfighter: php5-cli
[12:37] <Ab3L> soundray: that's right, its very strange
[12:37] <brophat> if the generic display driver on live cd is not working for my ATI board, can I "install" a different one while on live cd to check it out?
[12:37] <Jetfighter> install that?
[12:37] <Fujitsu> Jetfighter: Yes.
[12:37] <gordonjcp> Jetfighter: the "-cli" bit is important
[12:38] <Mirth> Fujitsu, it gives me this:
[12:38] <Fujitsu> I remember back when we first broke 1000 people, around Dapper release.
[12:38] <Mirth> ipw2200               115652  0
[12:38] <Mirth> ieee80211
[12:38] <soundray> Ab3L: on the problem machine, do you see a line corresponding to the camera when you run 'lsusb'?
[12:38] <xtknight> helfrez: not really.  in fact i think it's ideal.  it's sort of like Checks and Balances, you can make sure good advice is being given
[12:38] <colbert> Anyone here who uses a Creative Audigy card and\or 5.1 speakers, or have a ugpraded sound-card can you plz help ??
[12:38] <livingdaylight> void^: how about the other way round?
[12:38] <Fujitsu> Mirth: OK, that's the same one I have.
[12:38] <Fujitsu> Mirth: Can you run `sudo iwlist scan'?
[12:38] <Ab3L> soundray: yes.. Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0ac8:0302 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0302 WebCam
[12:38] <Jetfighter> IRSSI is a bitch to read though >.>
[12:38] <livingdaylight> void^: how can i read my laptop from linux?
[12:38] <Fujitsu> Mirth: Does that command show you anything?
[12:38] <brophat> can i change video drivers while on live cd?
[12:39] <Fujitsu> brophat: Why do you wish to?
[12:39] <void^> livingdaylight: you should be able to see the windows pc in places->network, "windows network"
[12:39] <Ab3L> soundray: the problem is /dev/video0
[12:39] <anolis> i think i just messed up kinda bad...
[12:39] <infidel> !ntfs
[12:39] <xtknight> brophat: yes
[12:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:39] <soundray> Ab3L: good. Have you tried running 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and observing the messages as you plug in the camera?
[12:39] <helfrez> xtknight, not so much, just the community is big enough to have so subset channels
[12:39] <Fujitsu> Ab3L: ls -l /dev/video0
[12:39] <brophat> Fujitsu because the generic driver on live cd is not working
[12:39] <bayziders> helfrez: How do I luanch beagle?
[12:39] <Poul^Laptop> I cant see any devices in camstream, so my webcam properly are not isntalled :P
[12:39] <kalin> hmm, ok, 'Could not find device for /boot/: not found or not a block device'
[12:39] <Jetfighter> !php-cli
[12:39] <Ab3L> soundray: let me see
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php-cli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <Mirth> Fujitsu, am I allowed to paste what it gave me here, because it's pretty long...
[12:39] <void^> livingdaylight: if you have any shares/shared printers on it, that is
[12:39] <anolis> i did bind ctrl-t gnome-terminal, now t doesnt work in my terminal, because i used the command wrong
[12:39] <Fujitsu> brophat: If you head into a terminal, and run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg' you'll be able to select it.
[12:39] <brophat> xtknight you mean the live cd has a lot of drivers you can check out?
[12:39] <helfrez> bayziders, search and indexing in preferences shold set it to start at login
[12:39] <Jetfighter> !php5-cli
[12:39] <ubotu> php5-cli: command-line interpreter for the php5 scripting language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3 (edgy), package size 2250 kB, installed size 5016 kB
[12:39] <Fujitsu> Mirth: Does it list any networks at all? (please don't paste here)
[12:40] <soundray> Ab3L: post them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if need be
[12:40] <helfrez> bayziders, you can add beagle-search --icon to your session startup for a icon
[12:40] <Ab3L> Mar 17 17:39:47 fdez-net kernel: [17209315.420000]  drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found. Type Vimicro Zc302
[12:40] <anolis> how do i fix it, or replace the keymap file
[12:40] <Mirth> eth1 it does
[12:40] <helfrez> bayziders, or add the deskbar applet to your tooolbar
[12:40] <RedEyess> hi
[12:40] <xtknight> brophat: i'm not sure if restricted modules is on there by default.  but if the safe graphics mode doesnt at least get you to some kind of desktop, you're pretty much screwed when it comes to getting a proprietary driver on to there
[12:40] <Poul^Laptop> ab3l, what command was that to see that?
[12:40] <RedEyess> where are the openssl libraries located?
[12:40] <bayziders> how do i add it to my tool bar?
[12:40] <helfrez> bayziders, i would go the deskbar-applet route since thats what you want anyway
[12:40] <Jetfighter> My computer is lagging like a [CENSOR] 
[12:40] <Fujitsu> xtknight: No... There are quite a number of a cards that require the proprietary drivers to work at all.
[12:40] <bayziders> kay
[12:41] <bayziders> so how do i do it?
[12:41] <soundray> Ab3L: please don't paste messages here.
[12:41] <brophat> xtknight we have a desktop, just a little bit screwed up
[12:41] <Ab3L> Poul^Laptop:  tail -f /var/log/syslog
[12:41] <Fujitsu> Mirth: Is the network in question listed?
[12:41] <Ab3L> soundray: ok, sorry
[12:41] <Mirth> Yes, it is
[12:41] <Jetfighter> Why is my comp dying
[12:41] <Mirth> It's what Im connected to now
[12:41] <soundray> Ab3L: so now it's not creating a video device at all?
[12:41] <xtknight> Fujitsu: sorry didn't quite understand what you mean?
[12:41] <brophat> Fujitsu you think there is a driver in there for ATI Radeon 9200 Pro (RV280) ?
[12:41] <helfrez> bayziders. rclick add applet, if its not available install it
[12:41] <soundray> Ab3L: how many lines of output from 'lsmod | grep v4l'?
[12:41] <Mirth> I had to manually type in the ESSID to get it to work
[12:41] <Marsmensch__> anyone remembers odigo?
[12:41] <Fujitsu> brophat: The vesa, ati and radeon drivers should be able to handle that.
[12:42] <hateyla> well on system startup on the "Checking All filesystem" tab i get a msg "dosfsck 2.11 12 Mar 2005, FAT32
[12:42] <hateyla> No FSINFO sector
[12:42] <hateyla> not automatically Creating it
[12:42] <hateyla> /dev/hda1: 104362 files, 764442
[12:42] <hateyla> dosfsck  2.11, 12 March 2005, FAT32
[12:42] <hateyla> No FSINFO sector
[12:42] <hateyla> Not Automatically Creating it
[12:42] <Fujitsu> Mirth: Which application are you using to select the network.
[12:42] <xtknight> Fujitsu: never mind, i understand
[12:42] <hateyla> S0rry *
[12:42] <Fujitsu> !paste | hateyla
[12:42] <Ab3L> soundray: no one
[12:42] <ubotu> hateyla: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:42] <Poul^Laptop> But how do it check if my webcam is found, installed properly?
[12:42] <brophat> Fujitsu the command you gave me lets you choose from a list?
[12:42] <Jetfighter> PHP5-CLI IS A VIRUS
[12:42] <bayziders> helfrez: I just installed it and it's not there
[12:42] <Fujitsu> brophat: Yes.
[12:42] <hateyla> Fujitsu: ya i know i just type here :< by mistake i press enter
[12:42] <Fujitsu> Jetfighter: ... or not. Please don't shout.
[12:42] <Seveas> Jetfighter, behave
[12:42] <soundray> Ab3L: give me a couple of minutes pls
[12:42] <Jetfighter> It is a virs. It's frozen my computer to death.
[12:42] <Mirth> I just go to System>Administration>Networking, Fujitsu
[12:42] <Ab3L> soundray: sure
[12:42] <brophat> Fujitsu ok thanks
[12:43] <Seveas> Jetfighter, that's nonsense.
[12:43] <RedEyess> anyone know where the openssl libraries are located.
[12:43] <Ab3L> my line of /dev/video... crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2007-03-17 17:39 /dev/video0
[12:43] <snowpunk98> How do I change file associations?
[12:43] <helfrez> bayziders if you installed deskbar but its not available as an applet logout and log back in
[12:43] <Jetfighter> No it's not. It says reading Database and kills comp
[12:43] <livingdaylight> void^: there is Places/Network Servers   When i go in there is 'Windows Network' but when i go in there is 'Dune' again and all my linux folders
[12:43] <Seveas> Jetfighter, that's dpkg (actually debconf) being busy
[12:43] <Seveas> that sometimes takes a while
[12:44] <Seveas> especially on slower machines
[12:44] <Jetfighter> Tell it to stop, this isn't a slower machine
[12:44] <Jetfighter> It was fine till I did this
[12:44] <void^> livingdaylight: hm, hit ctrl+l in that nautilus window and enter 'smb://ip', with ip being your windows pc's ip.
[12:44] <livingdaylight> void^: Network Servers/ mshome/Dune
[12:44] <Jetfighter> I'm sueing you for telling me to isntall a virus....
[12:44] <xtknight> !troll
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <fdsfsf> http://taleworld.sytes.net Join Please
[12:44] <fdsfsf> http://taleworld.sytes.net Join Please
[12:44] <infidel> anyone know how to mount a usb drive with a ntfs file system?
[12:44] <Seveas> Jetfighter, chill down.
[12:44] <Fujitsu> Thankyou Seveas.
[12:45] <Fujitsu> !ntfs | infidel
[12:45] <ubotu> infidel: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:45] <bayziders> It still aint there
[12:45] <void^> livingdaylight: (don't ask me how to fix that name resolution stuff, i really don't know much about samba/smb/nmb. i can only suspect it's due to broadcast issues in your wireless network?)
[12:45] <infidel> Fujitsu, did that
[12:45] <livingdaylight> void^: is the windows pc's ip the same as linux? (192.168.1.103)?
[12:45] <void^> livingdaylight: no, it has another ip. check the details of the network connection in windows
[12:45] <naught101> anyone know why friefox sometimes opens the "save as.." dialog when opening *.php pages?
[12:45] <livingdaylight> void^: ifconfig?
[12:45] <jrib> naught101: server-side issue
[12:45] <kalin> trying to grub-install on my primary boot drive which has only a windows partition, and it says 'could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device', any ideas?
[12:46] <bayziders> Should I reinstall?
[12:46] <void^> livingdaylight: i think it's called ipconfig if you want to do it from a command line on windows
[12:46] <soundray> Ab3L: any output from 'lsmod | grep videodev'?
[12:47] <livingdaylight> void^: ipconfig, yes, so, it is 192.168.1.101
[12:47] <soundray> Ab3L: have you still got the tail -f running?
[12:47] <james296> help, Im having trouble changing my default player when inserting a music CD
[12:47] <Ab3L> soundray: videodev               10752  1 spca5xx
[12:47] <hateyla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10832/
[12:47] <hateyla> startup problem on "Checking All FileSystem"
[12:47] <jlulian38> For some weird reason, I can't get X11 to set my resolution higher than 800x600, and it used to run (on windows D=) at 1024x768
[12:47] <jrib> !fixres | jlulian38
[12:47] <james296> I know what to do to do that
[12:47] <ubotu> jlulian38: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:47] <james296> but when I do
[12:47] <james296> nothing changes
[12:48] <jlulian38> thanks
[12:48] <jrib> james296: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[12:48] <naught101> jrib: it's on localhost :) know what server-side issue? maybe I should restart php
[12:48] <james296> yeah I did that
[12:48] <james296> I changed the file to banshee
[12:48] <james296> but the sound-juicer still opened
[12:48] <GuHaSe> [ws]   Error code: 2 ( BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) )
[12:48] <jrib> naught101: after you've enabled php in apache, restart apache and clear your browser's cache
[12:48] <GuHaSe> anyone know how to resolve that error in gmplayer?
[12:48] <Ab3L> soundray: [17209562.128000]  drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
[12:49] <asc> kalin: Some random site says to 'cp /proc/mounts /etc/mtab', but doesn't explain what would cause the error.
[12:49] <jcaviedes> i speak spanish
[12:49] <Ab3L> soundray: sounds like an error
[12:49] <jrib> !es | jcaviedes
[12:49] <ubotu> jcaviedes: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:49] <soundray> Ab3L: yep
[12:49] <james296> any ideas how to fix this?
[12:49] <Ab3L> grr
[12:49] <jlulian38> =O This might work!
[12:49] <Ab3L> soundray: any idea?
[12:49] <jrib> james296: what exactly did you change?
[12:49] <jcaviedes> ok
[12:50] <james296> Im TRYING to change the default CD player from sound-juicer to Banshee
[12:50] <jrib> james296: yes, I know
[12:50] <soundray> Ab3L: try this: 'sudo rmmod spca5xx ; sudo modprobe spca5xx usbgrabber=1'
[12:50] <asc> kalin: plus the site is for installing gentoo.  But if the problem is that the livecd hasn't properly detected all the disks or something it might help.
[12:50] <soundray> Ab3L: (shot in the dark)
[12:50] <Fujitsu> james296: Have you tried in System->Preferences->Removable Devices?
[12:50] <Ab3L> soundray: ok.. thank you
[12:51] <kalin> asc, hmm, well, i've added a runlevel 1 and verbose startup to my grub list and i will try it from the super grub boot disk now
[12:51] <james296> I did use Automatix I admit...is trhat what could have caused the problem?
[12:51] <james296> yes
[12:51] <blitzchecker> hello
[12:51] <hateyla> can anyone help me with that? pastebin link?
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> james296: automatix always causes the problem, wether it does or not..lol
[12:51] <james296> lol
[12:51] <Ab3L> soundray: not works ...
[12:51] <blitzchecker> can anyone help me with xgl?
[12:51] <Fujitsu> blitzchecker: #ubuntu-effects
[12:52] <snowpunk98> Should I use Adobe Reader or is there something better for PDFs?
[12:52] <asc> kalin: Somebody says the same solution works for Debian, so it might help.  In any case, good luck.
[12:52] <Seveas> !xgl | blitzchecker
[12:52] <ubotu> blitzchecker: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:52] <james296> well I had to find an easy way to install my Nvidia driver w/ out the X server crashing lol
[12:52] <Fujitsu> snowpunk98: evince comes with Ubuntu, and works fine.
[12:52] <soundray> Ab3L: okay, revert this with : 'sudo rmmod spca5xx ; sudo modprobe spca5xx'
[12:52] <kalin> asc, ok, i have to afk soon so thanks for the help
[12:52] <livingdaylight> void^: says sorry, couldn't display all teh contents of 192.etc.etc
[12:52] <Ab3L> soundray: ok, i'll try
[12:52] <asc> kalin: Righto.  Hope it works out somehow.
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> james296: you'll get no grief from me, i don't use it a lot, but i've had zero probs with it, on several different pcs
[12:53] <soundray> Ab3L: now check 'ls -l /dev/video*' (don't paste, just say whether it finds a device now)
[12:53] <Schalken> How come System Monitor reports 9 instances of "apache2" running? I only installed it once.
[12:53] <void^> livingdaylight: do you know if it is possible to access your windows pc from another windows pc?
[12:53] <Ab3L> soundray: ok
[12:53] <soundray> Schalken: it's threaded, each thread shows up
[12:53] <Fujitsu> Schalken: It runs multiple processes to handle multiple connections.
[12:53] <Schalken> ahhh
[12:53] <livingdaylight> void^: no, i don't
[12:53] <Schalken> well thats clever.
[12:53] <Schalken> cheers!
[12:53] <Ab3L> soundray: it finds
[12:54] <soundray> Ab3L: okay, check your camorama or whatever you use
[12:54] <livingdaylight> void^: that could bbe teh issue, huh?
[12:54] <Ab3L> soundray: could not connect to video device... blah blah
[12:54] <void^> livingdaylight: hm, on linux try 'smbclient -N -L 192.168.1.101'
[12:54] <blitzchecker> i have installed the package xserver-xgl from the ubuntu repositorys and created a shell script to start xgl. i can already choose xgl in the options dialog of the login screen, but whrn i login with my account, he does nothing and suddenly i'm logged off again...
[12:54] <james296> so what can I do to fix my problem, WITHIOUT having to reinstall Ubuntu again...lol
[12:54] <soundray> Ab3L: does it work when you start 'gksudo camorama'?
[12:55] <livingdaylight> void^: in teh command line?
[12:55] <void^> livingdaylight: yes
[12:55] <Ab3L> soundray: no
[12:55] <soundray> Ab3L: same error or a different one?
[12:55] <Ab3L> soundray: the same error
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> james296: what is your problem
[12:56] <Ab3L> soundray: it's very strange, but the same camera works in other machine
[12:56] <bulmer> got a working freenx installation ? can you give some pointers on how this thing is done right? confusing as heck to get it working not really understanding which key and user do which
[12:56] <Ab3L> soundray: and the same distribution of ubuntu
[12:56] <phinite> anyone know  a good howto for getting an ubuntu live boot onto a USB key?
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> james296: are you still having the banshee/soundrecorder issue?
[12:57] <Arko> Hi!
[12:57] <james296> I want Banshee to open automatically when inserting a music CD, instead of sound-juicer
[12:57] <james296> yes
[12:57] <livingdaylight> void^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10833/
[12:57] <soundray> Ab3L: can you paste the output from 'ls -l /dev/video*' (I don't think anyone will object if it's only one line)
[12:57] <Ab3L> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      6 2007-03-17 17:57 /dev/video -> video0
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i'm not a 100% sure on that
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> i doubt it requires a reinstall though..lol
[12:57] <Arko> to connect to Internet, I have to type "route add default gw 192.168.0.1 ra0" every boot. How to make it automatically?
[12:58] <james296> then what should I do...lol
[12:58] <void^> livingdaylight: i suspect the problem is on windows then, need to set it up for network file sharing somehow
[12:58] <james296> what should I reinstall in Synaptic to fix the problem?
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> i dont have any music cd's to test it with, but with DVD's(when I was wantign to use VLC, but totem always opened)
[12:58] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy?
[12:58] <james296> could be the same problem
[12:58] <bayziders> what in the hel
[12:58] <cheeseboy>  linuxnewbie755 , ya?
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> i simply inserted a disk, right click, properties/permissions.. then choose to use VLC, and it has worked fine.
[12:58] <james296> did you fix that?
[12:58] <bayziders> its lightining and snowing
[12:59] <Arko> hmmm
[12:59] <livingdaylight> void^: i see
[12:59] <Rozza> hey
[12:59] <livingdaylight> void^: control panel or someplace
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> james296: well, totem doesn't open anymore.
[12:59] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, booted from live cds, nothing. won't work at all, it's like i don't even have an ethernet cable hooked up to it. wish i still had dsl just to test it.
[12:59] <kmarius> Arko, add the line to a script that runs when ubuntu boots
[01:00] <Rozza> can anyone help me about geting ubuntu up and working on my iMac g5?
[01:00] <void^> livingdaylight: i don't remember. might be in some network setup wizard too.
[01:00] <Arko> kmarius: where?
[01:00] <soundray> Ab3L: normally udev should create the device, but it didn't. Let's try it manually: 'sudo mknod /dev/video0 c 84 0'
[01:00] <james296> damn it says permissions of "cdda" could not be determined...
[01:00] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 nothing in system>administration>networking?
[01:00] <Megaqwerty> hey, I'm wondering if anyone can tell me how I can get the usbserial.c file for the usbserial driver?
[01:00] <Ab3L> soundray: ok
[01:00] <linuxnewbie755> hold on, take me a moment.
[01:00] <blitzchecker> was anyone on the CeBIT today?
[01:01] <snowpunk98> is there an ubuntu server channel
[01:01] <crimsun_> snowpunk98: only for development.
[01:01] <Shrimpy_> IndyGunFreak: long time no see
[01:01] <snowpunk98> :(
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy_: hey... indeed, been on the shelf a bit.
[01:02] <Ab3L> soundray: i've already try that, and nothing
[01:02] <soundray> Megaqwerty: it's in the kernel source: 'sudo apt-get install linux-source'
[01:02] <snowpunk98> Anyone happen to know how to check which ClamAV virus definitions my server is using?
[01:02] <Megaqwerty> soundray: Thanks!
[01:02] <soundray> Ab3L: did it succeed in creating the device?
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> james296: wait, i don't thinkt hat was how i did it... hang on
[01:02] <Ab3L> soundray: yes
[01:03] <Reiser_x> Hi
[01:03] <Schalken> How come even after restarting Firefox, it still has things in the add-ons window that "will be installed/applied/upgraded/removed when Firefox is restarted"?
[01:03] <Reiser_x> i need to configure samba
[01:03] <soundray> Ab3L: try changing the permissions: 'sudo chmod 666 /dev/video0'
[01:03] <Reiser_x> already installed
[01:03] <Reiser_x> how can i share
[01:04] <Ab3L> soundray: it not works
[01:05] <linuxnewbie755> cheesecake, right now there was something there, but everything was so slow, i am installing edgy. but there was stuff in networking, but it didn't mean anything to me. i am thinking maybe something to do with the way charter works, maybe ip address problem or something?
[01:05] <soundray> Ab3L: when you type 'groups' in a normal terminal (no root, no sudo), does it list 'video'?
[01:06] <piranesi> I have a program that works if I launch it from the terminal and If I launch it from the gnome menu it doesn't start, how can it be?
[01:06] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 how do you have both comps hooked up at once?
[01:06] <hex_u_up> anyone here successfully move a windows xp installed partiton to a a new larger hdd and have it boot correctly?
[01:06] <Heroin> how can i see a users uid and gid?
[01:06] <brophat> can anyone explain why the xscreen-saver is showing great graphics with the ati video board, but the gnome is messed up, only showing top menu bar, etc..... do they use different graphics cards?
[01:06] <Ab3L> soundray: yes
[01:07] <rowdog> Heroin, id username
[01:07] <linuxnewbie755> well, i tried only mine, other is my dad's, and that didn't work. i might should have unplugged the modem (reset?) and waited a few moments.
[01:07] <brophat> I mean do they use different drivers
[01:07] <soundray> Heroin: yourself: 'id'. Another user: 'sudo su - username -c id'
[01:07] <james296> so?
[01:07] <Schalken> piranesi: go into System > Preferences > Menu Layout and check what command the menu entry points to.
[01:07] <RobertM> hey guys, got a question
[01:07] <Ab3L> soundray: i'm already in the video group
[01:07] <soundray> Ab3L: I'm out of suggestions now, sorry.
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> james296: i'm trying o remember, i just can't.
[01:07] <RobertM> I keep getting this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:07] <Heroin> soundray what does the su option do?
[01:07] <soundray> Ab3L: ...just one more thing
[01:07] <Ab3L> soundray: thanks for your support, i'll search in google till die
[01:07] <Schalken> RobertM: when do you get the error?
[01:08] <clearzen> hex_u_up:no, it won't work. At least I haven't ever had it work and I've been told you can't do it either.
[01:08] <james296> so I guess I have to reinstall this again huh...
[01:08] <soundray> Heroin: runs a command with the privileges of another user
[01:08] <piranesi> Schalken it points to the same identical command I write in the terminal (it's simply "jin")
[01:08] <Heroin> k
[01:08] <Ab3L> soundray: yes?
[01:08] <hateyla> !opera
[01:08] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[01:08] <RobertM> When running make for Amarok
[01:08] <soundray> Ab3L: try with another program, like xawtv
[01:08] <Schalken> piranesi: check "run in terminal" and see if what output you get from the menu.
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> james296: i wouldn't go that far
[01:08] <Ab3L> soundray: ok
[01:08] <soundray> Ab3L: I take it you've read through the wiki docs?
[01:08] <Ab3L> soundray: yes
[01:09] <brophat> screen saver is being displayed good, but gnome is messed up. is that a problem with gnome only then
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> james296: do you actually use soundrecorder?  why not just uninstall it, and maybe banshee will become default
[01:09] <soundray> Ab3L: just making sure
[01:09] <RobertM> Schalken: When running make for Amarok
[01:09] <Ab3L> soundray: ok
[01:09] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, what i don't get, it worked fine with dsl, and charter works fine with this windows machine, i am thinking of hooking up my brother's computer to my ethernet and see if it works (windows machine). but i dont see how it could be the cable, it worked fine just the other day. but what else could it be?
[01:09] <Ab3L> soundray: i'm download now the xawtv
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> james296: if anything, it only takes 2sec to close soundrecorder and open banshee.+
[01:09] <james296> I dont use soundrecorder and it doesnt recognize it either, it recognizes sound-juicer as the default
[01:09] <Schalken> RobertM: oh okay, you probably need to install a bunch of header files. look for something like xorg-dev
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> james296: sorry, i meant sound-juicer
[01:10] <soundray> Ab3L: I don't really believe that it will work, but maybe it will give you a more clueful error message.
[01:10] <RobertM> Schalken:  Where?
[01:10] <Schalken> RobertM: in SYnaptic
[01:10] <Schalken> to install
[01:10] <spanglesontoast> hey does anyone know why my wireless is being detected as eth1 and not wlan0
[01:10] <Schalken> libraries/header files for compiling amarok
[01:10] <piranesi> Schalken, if I check the "run in terminal" it doesn't start and I don't see any output
[01:10] <james296> I uninstalled it, now it says this...
[01:10] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, because you use a proper wifi card
[01:11] <Ab3L> soundray: i'm running xawtv and send me the same error.. can't open /dev/video0: No such device or address
[01:11] <james296> Couldn't display "cdda:///dev/hdd".
[01:11] <Seveas> or a broadcom crap thing
[01:11] <Schalken> piranesi: odd :S
[01:11] <james296> There was an error launching the application.
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> james296: hmm. wonder what the issue is.
[01:11] <Yeason> I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on an old ibook but the computer isn't showing the cd at the boot selection screen. anyone know what might be wrong?
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> it should be simple.
[01:11] <Fujitsu> james296: Are you sure that Banshee can play audio CDs?
[01:11] <Schalken> piranesi: maybe make your own menu entry pointing to the command and see what happens
[01:11] <kmarius> Arko, /etc/rc.local maybe? i don't want to give any bad advice sicne i'm not knowledgable with sysv scripts
[01:11] <soundray> Ab3L: but you did the mknod command! Did you check 'ls -l /dev/video0' after mknod?
[01:11] <james296> yes I just was
[01:11] <Pupeno__> Does anybody know what's the name of that channel dedicated to audio on Linux?
[01:11] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Wired_Ethernet_Troubleshooting
[01:11] <Ab3L> soundray: yes
[01:12] <cheeseboy> try that
[01:12] <Ab3L> soundray: and looks normal
[01:12] <soundray> Ab3L: and does it show?
[01:12] <crimsun_> Pupeno__: there are a number of them.
[01:12] <hateyla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10832/   can someone fix this ? because on this stage my systems goes too much slow
[01:12] <Schalken> Pupeno__: #linux-audio ? (guessing)
[01:12] <Ab3L> soundray: yes..
[01:12] <spanglesontoast> is there anyway of making eth1 be recongnised as wlan0
[01:12] <RobertM> Schalken: Found nada.
[01:12] <james296> for the Audio CD area in Removeable Devices dialog, is all I need to type for it is Banshee?
[01:12] <Pupeno__> Schalken: nope, that's empty.
[01:13] <Pupeno__> crimsun_: can name any?
[01:13] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, thanks, i'll look into that after it's installed, (edgy). right now i am testing the cable, and btw, how do you go into modem settings for charter?
[01:13] <piranesi> Schalken I created a symlink to /path/jin in /usr/bin so when I type in terminal the command "jin" the application start but if I type jin in the command filed of menu entry it doesn't do anything :
[01:13] <Schalken> RobertM: theres a package called xorg-dev, install that.
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> james296: where is this removalbe devices?
[01:13] <cheeseboy>  linuxnewbie755 , im not sure if you can..
[01:14] <TheBrain> i have just installed ubuntu today and i have a noob problem i think, can someone help me please?
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> james296: thats it..
[01:14] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, well thats sucks
[01:14] <Schalken> piranesi: hmm maybe menu entries dont like symlinks :S does it work pointing it to /path/jin?
[01:14] <clearzen> TheBrain:what is your problem
[01:14] <JohnPhys> !ask
[01:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:14] <RobertM> Schalken: mmkay, found it with agp-get
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> you should just abe able to put banshee there, and i think that will do it.
[01:14] <james296> System-->Preferences-->Removable Drives and Media?
[01:14] <Schalken> RobertM: i found it in synaptic :P
[01:14] <Pupeno__> Any recommende audio player that can play through Jack (other than XMMS and alsaplayer)?
[01:14] <AMD> hi i have a proeblem, i  have no display after i resume / wake the computer or hibernate
[01:15] <RobertM> Schalken: I can't. :\
[01:15] <snez> Hello, I am trying to set up an ftp daemon, I have tried vsFTPd and pure-ftpd by now, but both daemons will fail normal ftp user authentication, while sftp works. Is this ubuntu specific or daemon specific? What can I do about it?
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> james296: yeah, thats it, change the audio cd to banshee.
[01:15] <RobertM> Schalken: but it's all good, found it with agp-get. :P
[01:15] <TheBrain> i am trying to get my wireless network card working. i am following the instruction on the wiki but i cant get the bcm4306 thing working because i'm not on the internet yet...
[01:15] <james296> I already did
[01:15] <james296> thats why Im havin a problem
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> then that should work.. insert a cd
[01:15] <james296> I changed that
[01:15] <james296> but it doesnt think I did so
[01:15] <Shrimpy_> TheBrain: did you try nidswrapper?
[01:15] <crimsun_> Pupeno__: #lad, #alsa among them
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> james296: opena terminal, and type banshee and see if banshee starts
[01:16] <TheBrain> i saw it mentioned but i couldnt see instructions that were as clear for that
[01:16] <Fujitsu> !ndiswrapper | TheBrain
[01:16] <james296> I can start Banshee
[01:16] <ubotu> TheBrain: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:16] <Pupeno__> crimsun_: thanks.
[01:16] <soundray> Ab3L: I've done a search on that error message... There's a recommendation to plug the camera direct into a root hub (the motherboard) -- did you do that?
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> james296: then it makes no sense the issue you're aving.
[01:16] <james296> but I want it to start automatically when I insert an audio CD
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> reinstall ubuntu...lol(just kidding)
[01:16] <Schalken> RobertM: you may encounter inconsistency (i.e. it looks and feels different) with using amarok. it was made for kde rather than gnome.
[01:16] <MikMik7> hi
[01:16] <Ab3L> soundray: no i don't
[01:16] <Shrimpy_> TheBrain: the nidswrapper is going to be the solution to your problem i had the same thing
[01:16] <TheBrain> !ndiswrapper
[01:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:16] <Ab3L> soundray: let me try
[01:17] <MikMik7> first time in linux
[01:17] <TheBrain> ok thanks i will take a look
[01:17] <MikMik7> itz nice
[01:17] <MikMik7> how can i switch languge ?
[01:17] <piranesi> Schalken no It doesn't work if I make it point to /path/jin and it doesn't work if I type that things in ALT+F2 run window... it only works in the terminal :
[01:17] <eck> MikMik7: have you installed it, or are you in the live cd?
[01:17] <MikMik7> installd
[01:18] <Schalken> piranesi: eep
[01:18] <soundray> MikMik7: System-Administration-Language Support
[01:18] <MikMik7> ok im there
[01:18] <piranesi> Schalken what does eep mean?
[01:18] <Schalken> piranesi: okay, what if you just make a symlink on your desktop pointing to some random image in your ~ or something, point a menu entry to that and see what happens
[01:18] <soundray> MikMik7: now follow your instinct
[01:18] <Schalken> piranesi: im out of clues
[01:19] <Schalken> piranesi: except for that one ;)
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: lol
[01:19] <Ab3L> soundray: cuando hago un  xawtv -hwscan me sale:  /dev/video0: No hay espacio libre en el dispositivo
[01:19] <MikMik7> hehe , i aded
[01:19] <MikMik7> the languge i want
[01:19] <eck> MikMik7: i think you need to log out and log back in after the language is installed
[01:19] <MikMik7> now how can i switch ?
[01:19] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: what am I supposed to say ;)
[01:19] <Schalken> RobertM: luck?
[01:19] <eck> MikMik7: in the login screen there will be an option to choose your langauge
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: lol, well id on't know, but what you said tickled me.
[01:19] <MikMik7> not the linux languge
[01:20] <justin420> anybody know if a dlink dbt-120 bluetooth usb adapter will work with ubuntu edgy? or is there a better "linux friendly" usb adapter that i should be looking into?
[01:20] <MikMik7> input languge
[01:20] <piranesi> If I make a symlink on my desktop that program doesn't run
[01:20] <soundray> Ab3L: I think I've seen that error on the wiki, sec...
[01:20] <Poul^Laptop> dont know if you solved the webcam stuff before. But i got some problems aswell. I followed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322218 without problems, used a newer driver then the guide said tho. But no problems, but camsteam or camorama could not find the device
[01:20] <Errpast1> How do I tell what version of ubuntu I am running, from the command line?  In Slackware there is a /etc/slackware-version file
[01:20] <Ab3L> soundray: at last
[01:20] <MikMik7> i want to write both hebrew and english
[01:20] <Ab3L> soundray: /dev/video0: OK                         [ -device /dev/video0 ] 
[01:20] <Schalken> piranesi: what if you point the symlink to "eog"
[01:20] <Shrimpy_> ubuntu has the most "ready" usb devices justin420
[01:21] <piranesi> "eog"   ?????
[01:21] <Fujitsu> Errpast1: /etc/issue
[01:21] <Schalken> piranesi: eye of gnome, the image viewer
[01:21] <Ab3L> soundray: thank you for your support
[01:21] <Fujitsu> Errpast1: That's the Linux standard.
[01:21] <Poul^Laptop> ab3l, did you get it solved?
[01:21] <Ab3L> Poul^Laptop: yes
[01:21] <AMD> i have no display after hibernate  ??
[01:21] <Poul^Laptop> i had to reboot, but guess its somehow the same issues i have
[01:21] <NineTeen67Comet> Grrr .. Hi all .. I've worn the Forums out with no help... I just tossed in a Linksys WMP54G wireless card. It shows up in networking fine, I set everything up (static ip) and walla, still nothing. ipconfig shows the card with appropriate ip address and ESSID .. (no WEP) help?
[01:22] <RobertM> Schalken: re configing now
[01:22] <soundray> Ab3L: it works?
[01:22] <soundray> amazing...
[01:22] <Ab3L> soundray: yes
[01:22] <Errpast1> Fujitsu, thanks
[01:22] <Poul^Laptop> ab3l - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322218 its somehow the same you been doing?
[01:22] <soundray> Ab3L: well done for having the patience
[01:22] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, time to make mine work then :P
[01:22] <Ab3L> soundray: i plug in the root hub
[01:22] <kheaslett> Will someone help me with my problem?
[01:22] <Ab3L> soundray: and works wery fine
[01:22] <Ab3L> soundray: thanks to you
[01:22] <eck> MikMik7: maybe you want system > preferences > keyboard? i'm not sure how hebrew input works
[01:23] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: oh no, can't you give me a hard disk problem to solve now?
[01:23] <Ab3L> Poul^Laptop: ok
[01:23] <soundray> ;)
[01:23] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: what's the trouble with yours?
[01:23] <RobertM> Schalken: now I get looking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[01:23] <RobertM> :(
[01:23] <mattie10> hi, there was some distro based on Ubuntu, that had fluxbox (I think) as its default wm, and was mainly for dealing with "network things".. so yes, it was pre-loaded with lots of utilities which may had been need when doing network things. What was its name? I forgot XD
[01:23] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, naa its also the webcam
[01:23] <SpacePuppy> arf
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> !fluxbuntu
[01:23] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[01:23] <Schalken> RobertM: now u gotta grab qt-dev or libqt-dev or something like that
[01:23] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: what about it?
[01:23] <piranesi> Schalken I moved to Desktop directory and did  "ln -s eog try" it creates a link on the desktop but it doesn't work If I double click on it
[01:23] <RobertM> mmkay
[01:24] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, installed, ok. i checked, there is nothing in dns servers, but there should be shouldn't there?
[01:24] <Schalken> piranesi: well so far it seems gnome doesnt like symlinks
[01:24] <eck> mattie10: there was also nubuntu
[01:24] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, i gave up on the hardisk as noone response to it :P i followed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322218 and no problem. But non of the applications can find the device
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> eck: not heard of that one.
[01:24] <RobertM> Schalken: can
[01:24] <Poul^Laptop> soundray: raider@s-web:~$ ls /dev/video*
[01:24] <Poul^Laptop> /dev/video0
[01:24] <mattie10> eck, yep! thank you
[01:24] <BigLebowskiMac> What is LPAE standard?
[01:25] <kheaslett> I have installed ubuntu into a partition that the bios can't recognize.  the HD is a 160GB drive and the bios can only detect 136gb  so grub is giving me "error 17".  Has someone come across this problem?
[01:25] <RobertM> Schalken: can't find qt, and with libqt... Package libqt-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:25] <RobertM> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:25] <RobertM> is only available from another source
[01:25] <RobertM> E: Package libqt-dev has no installation candidate
[01:25] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: are you plugging yours directly into the machine?
[01:25] <SpacePuppy> !cthulhu ubuntu
[01:25] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, its buildin
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cthulhu ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <bayziders> how do you install grub?
[01:25] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, a laptop -  Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:0896 Logitech, Inc.
[01:25] <piranesi> Schalken it says that can't run that application cause /home/username/Desktop/try doesn't exist, maybe I have to do a symlink to the real position of the eog bin
[01:26] <AzMoo> Hey, apparently I need samba 3.0.24, but it's not in the repos. Would it be safe to install the debian package from the samba website?
[01:26] <BigLebowskiMac> bayziders: grub-install or sudo grub, and use the grub commands interactively
[01:26] <justin420> NineTeen67Comet: I used this to help me setup my Linksys WMP54GS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy
[01:26] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: okay. Does ubuntu load the drivers for it?
[01:26] <BigLebowskiMac> Theres a million and 1 posts about it on the forum, search
[01:26] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, how to i test that?
[01:26] <piranesi> Schalken *because /home/username/Desktop/eog
[01:26] <bayziders> I am going to install windows and it will whipe grub so I will have no way to boot into ubuntu so i dont think i can do that
[01:27] <Schalken> i see so its searching the current directory rather than your path (/usr/bin)?
[01:27] <NineTeen67Comet> justin420: I'll give it a try, but my chipset is the RaLink RT2561/RT61 .. Not the broadcom (Like my other Linksys card .. ? .. lol) ..
[01:27] <AzMoo> bayziders, just boot to your liveCD afterwards and reinstall grub.
[01:27] <piranesi> Schalken yes
[01:27] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: 'lsmod | grep gspca' -- if there's any output, the driver is loaded.
[01:27] <Schalken> piranesi: so point it to /usr/bin/eog
[01:28] <piranesi> Schalken ok I'm going to do that
[01:28] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, 3 lines output, think its loaded
[01:28] <piranesi> Schalken pointing it to /usr/bin/eog works
[01:29] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: okay, now it gets difficult. Since your camera is built in, we can't just unplug it and plug it back in to follow the error messages.
[01:29] <Schalken> piranesi: so do the same with your originally problematic menu entry
[01:29] <Schalken> wait, i mean the symlink that the menu entry points to
[01:29] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: quick question thrown in: have you rebooted since you compiled the driver?
[01:29] <RobertM> Schalken: can't find qt, and with libqt... Package libqt-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:29] <Pollywog> Samba should be in the repositories
[01:29] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, nope havent
[01:29] <Pollywog> it is, because I have it
[01:30] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, is linux not the , dont reboot thing :PPP
[01:30] <Schalken> RobertM: got restricted/universe enabled?
[01:30] <CraZyLeGs> I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 got into console mode with a login prompt
[01:30] <Schalken> well, universe
[01:30] <eck> Poul^Laptop: you don't need to reboot to get a kernel module, you just need to unload the old one and load the new one
[01:30] <RobertM> Schalken: no idea what that is. :\
[01:30] <CraZyLeGs> how to return to the desktop
[01:30] <Poul^Laptop> eck, how would i do that :P
[01:30] <terlmann> need help , esd is broken
[01:30] <terlmann> how to fix ?
[01:30] <eck> Poul^Laptop: you can do both with modprobe -- do you know what the module is named?
[01:31] <clearzen> CraZyLeGs: ctrl+alt+f7
[01:31] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: it is, but that's mainly for software experimentation, not hardware. I suggest you do a 'sudo depmod -a', then reboot. If only to have a clean log.
[01:31] <soundray> eck: I've got it under control
[01:31] <eck> soundray: sounds good
[01:31] <piranesi> Schalken I did, and it doesn't run :
[01:31] <Y3n4> ciao qualche italiano?
[01:31] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, ok will do so, back in 5
[01:31] <soundray> !it | Y3n4
[01:31] <ubotu> Y3n4: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:31] <TheVault> I know you guys probably wanna back hand me in the face for asking but "is there a beryl like program for windows?"
[01:31] <jrib> TheVault: ##windows
[01:31] <piranesi> Schalken this program is really strange... maybe that being a java application it may cause some error...
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: yeah, its called Vista
[01:32] <CraZyLeGs> clearzen: thanks, my desktop shockes and I can't click on the bars ( only on icons on the desktop )
[01:32] <clearzen> TheVault:Your joking right??
[01:32] <Schalken> RobertM: the universe repository. go sys > admin > software sources and check all checkboxes on the first tab
[01:32] <CraZyLeGs> how can I restart it ?
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> clearzen: no, i think he's serious
[01:32] <AzMoo> Is it ok to install debian packages on ubuntu?
[01:32] <TheVault> clearzen: Just asking
[01:32] <whta> every time i log on, 'hdc2' is mounted and on my desktop. i unmount it with no problems, but it comes back every time. how can i fix that?
[01:32] <soundray> AzMoo: no
[01:32] <eck> AzMoo: i don't think it would be problematic...
[01:32] <soundray> AzMoo: avoid it if you can.
[01:32] <TheVault> Hey IndyGunFreak, hows it going
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> AzMoo: sometimes, but avoid it.
[01:33] <clearzen> TheVault: it's cool I just thought you were joking. It's for linux
[01:33] <silensius> how can install rhythmbox 0.98 on kubuntu dapper
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: going well.
[01:33] <eck> AzMoo: if there isn't an ubuntu deb, i would just go for it
[01:33] <Schalken> AzMoo: only as a last resort, but prepare for breakage. should ask someone if the package in question works.
[01:33] <AzMoo> soundray, damn. I need samba 3.0.24 but it's not in the repos
[01:33] <Fujitsu> !info samba edgy
[01:33] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Thats good.
[01:33] <Rozza> bugga
[01:33] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 2956 kB, installed size 7392 kB
[01:33] <eck> AzMoo: get the feisty one
[01:33] <Fujitsu> AzMoo: Why that version?
[01:33] <eck> AzMoo: feisty is at 3.0.24
[01:33] <AzMoo> It fixes NTLMv2 support to interact properly with vista
[01:33] <TheVault> clearzen: Well I was just asking, cause a friend of mine told me to ask since he does not have internet at the moment so he could not look up the info
[01:33] <AzMoo> eck, that's awesome, thanks.
[01:34] <whta> every time i log on, 'hdc2' is mounted and on my desktop. i unmount it with no problems, but it comes back every time. how can i fix that?
[01:34] <Rozza> just after downloading, burning, and tring out ubuntu, i find out ive got dapper and edgey is the one that will work for me comp.
[01:34] <TheVault> clearzen: Thats why I'm asking on his behalf
[01:34] <Rozza> ugh
[01:34] <EdgEy> dum de dum
[01:34] <soundray> AzMoo: the official line is not to recommend feisty for production use, but in a situation like yours, I wouldn't have any hesitation.
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> I'm scared of feisty
[01:34] <soundray> AzMoo: join #ubuntu+1 if you're interested in that option
[01:34] <mEck0> Hirvinen, I want to learn programming with Glade. Someone knowing a nice webpage with guide/tutorial or something?
[01:34] <CraZyLeGs> the buttons disappeared how to restart ?
[01:35] <AzMoo> soundray, so if I'm using the feisty packages do I need to actually use feisty? This isn't my box and the person using it doesn't really know too much.
[01:35] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: I was, too, but I've been running it for close to two months now without a single problem.
[01:35] <mEck0> Ohh, I didn't mean the message to you Hirvinen... accidently pressed wrong button :/
[01:35] <eck> AzMoo: you can just download that package (and possibly its dependencies)
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: yeah, but if there's a problem, i seem to have it..lol, i'll wait till its final for about a month then move on.
[01:36] <AzMoo> eck, nice one, thanks.
[01:36] <Fujitsu> AzMoo: You'll most probably need to rebuild it.
[01:36] <RobertM> Schalken: only one not checked off was sources, and still same errors
[01:36] <terlmann> how do I fully update to fiesty ?
[01:36] <soundray> terlmann: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:36] <eck> AzMoo: http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/
[01:37] <Lattyware> terlmann: update-manager -d
[01:37] <mattyv> AzMoo: Check the dependencies for that version of samba at http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/samba, then you might be able to see if a deb will work in edgy
[01:37] <Schalken> RobertM: there should be a libqt-dev-tools or libqt3-dev-tools or something like that
[01:37] <Poul^Laptop> soundray - still not working. X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169 is output from camstream
[01:37] <Fujitsu> AzMoo: It's unlikely to install, you'll probably need to rebuild it.
[01:37] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: does /dev/video0 exist?
[01:37] <Poul^Laptop> soundray - just check if the foulder is there?
[01:38] <AzMoo> Fujitsu, well, i'll give it a go first.
[01:38] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: it's not a folder, it's a device special file
[01:38] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: check with ls -l /dev/video0
[01:39] <Poul^Laptop> soundray - crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2007-03-18 01:33 /dev/video0
[01:39] <whta> every time i log on, 'hdc2' is mounted and on my desktop. i unmount it with no problems, but it comes back every time. how can i fix that?
[01:39] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: check if video is listed when you run 'groups'
[01:39] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, check this out. i hooked up my cable modem to my old dsl modem (built in 4 port etherntet router). again, this setup works fine with windows, but on linux, nothing. at least now i can bring up the modem (dsl modem) settings in linux, so i know the line is working.
[01:39] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, that output did it for me, ofcause i have to do sudo camsteam or what application i use
[01:39] <eck> AzMoo: i think if you grab 3.0.24 of all the packages in that directory you'll be fine
[01:40] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: no, you shouldn't really if you can make it work without sudo
[01:40] <AzMoo> eck, yep, doing that now :)
[01:40] <eck> well i guess you don't need the dev or dbg packages
[01:40] <terlmann> could someone elp me - my esd system is broke , and I think it is my fault. alsa works fine.
[01:40] <piranesi> Schalken look this! if I launch from the terminal that program with this -> java -jar /home/spike/jin-2.14.1/jin.jar it says that the program have to be launched from its directory! So it may be that the executable jin is not well written...
[01:40] <crimsun_> terlmann: what's the issue?
[01:40] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, then how do we make so i can use it without sudo?
[01:40] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: check if video is listed when you run 'groups'
[01:40] <cheeseboy> hats the aguement to unzip tar.bz2 ?
[01:40] <crimsun_> tar xf
[01:41] <bruna> what channel fpr ubuntu portuguese
[01:41] <crimsun_> ubuntu-pt
[01:41] <eck> cheeseboy: tar -xvjf foo.tar.bz2
[01:41] <RobertM> Schalken: found it, it is sudo apt-get install libqt3-headers libqt3-compat-headers
[01:41] <terlmann> no gnome sounds play
[01:41] <crimsun_> bruna: or if you're in S.A., use the appropriate CC.
[01:41] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, it is not listet when running groups
[01:41] <jrib> cheeseboy: double click on it, or just use tar -xf  it will figure out the 'j' part
[01:42] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: great, run 'sudo adduser yourusername video' (substitute your real username), then log out and back in.
[01:42] <crimsun_> terlmann: don't query me, I can't send messages.
[01:42] <terlmann> ok
[01:42] <terlmann> card , alsa channels, test play works fine, but esd sounds wont work
[01:42] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, is it video0 or video?
[01:43] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: video
[01:43] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, ok
[01:43] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, brb relogging
[01:43] <crimsun_> terlmann: how did you enable esound? via System> Preferences> Sound?
[01:43] <terlmann> yea
[01:43] <terlmann> but it was already on
[01:43] <terlmann> I migrated
[01:43] <crimsun_> terlmann: from?
[01:44] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, working thx :)
[01:44] <soundray> phew
[01:44] <chatainsim> Bonsoir
[01:44] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, now did you have solution to my hardisk problem also :PP
[01:44] <jrib> !fr | chatainsim
[01:44] <ubotu> chatainsim: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:44] <terlmann> but it stopped working a while back when I custom compiled a kernel with 2 fake cards...
[01:44] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: can you describe that again pls
[01:44] <crimsun_> terlmann: so which card is esd attempting to use?
[01:44] <exs> can someone tell me the best way to download an iso from http?.. firefox is a bit too buggy for me to download it with
[01:45] <jrib> exs: wget
[01:45] <soundray> exs: wget
[01:45] <Yeason> I'm trying to boot an old dell Pentium 2 laptop from one of the alternate cd's and it's asking me to choose a module and then give the location, can anyone tell me what these might be?
[01:45] <exs> how do i use wget and where does wget save it to?
[01:45] <RobertM> Schalken: nevermind, those still give the same error, any idea?
[01:45] <jrib> exs: wget http://some.place.on/the/internet    and it saves wherever you issued the command
[01:45] <soundray> exs: wget URL saves to the present working directory
[01:45] <terlmann> I have a new kernel now, none of that matters , rythmbox works and the fake cards are gone
[01:45] <bulmer> exs just type it in your cli and see if wget is already there
[01:46] <exs> bulmer:  what's cli ?
[01:46] <crimsun_> terlmann: so what's the default GSt sink set to?
[01:46] <bulmer> command line interface
[01:46] <ThaNerd> how do i restart apache under ubuntu?
[01:46] <exs> is there a gui for wget?
[01:46] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, its just before i installed fiesty i could access the partition of my harddisk where windows is located(fat32) as standart. Now i only can view the part where linux is installed
[01:46] <jrib> ThaNerd: sudo invoke-rc.d apache restart
[01:46] <Pollywog> the directory where you invoked wget
[01:46] <Poul^Laptop> soundray, just need to acces the files on the windows partition
[01:46] <terlmann> no idea
[01:46] <terlmann> how do I check it ?
[01:46] <ThaNerd> thanks jrib
[01:46] <Pollywog> wget http://urlhere.com
[01:47] <crimsun_> terlmann: gstreamer-properties
[01:47] <Pollywog> wget http://urlhere.com/file
[01:47] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: did you get feisty by upgrade or fresh install?
[01:47] <Pollywog> command line interface
[01:47] <Poul^Laptop> soundray fresh install
[01:47] <mattyv> You can even resume downloads with wget...it's state of the art
[01:47] <Pollywog> exs yes there is kget
[01:47] <linuxnewbie755> anyone have any trouble using charter internet and ubuntu?
[01:47] <exs> thanks
[01:47] <soundray> Poul^Laptop: can you join #ubuntu+1 please, I'll meet you there
[01:47] <foormea> hi all. i'm trying to get second life running through wine (i know there's also a linux version.). but it says: unable to detect directx 9.0b or greater. how could i make it work, please? :)
[01:48] <Kunk> Hi. I'm having probs getting php files to show up as web pages in 6.10 using Apache + PHP. I've configured apache with php4 'x-application-httpd' is correct, but it still asks me whether to save file etc. My guess is that the apache file is not been saved, even though I restarted apache. Aanyone -- help?
[01:48] <terlmann> automatic , and it tests fine
[01:48] <naught101> what's the root password for a ubuntu install before running 'sudo passwd PASSWORD'?
[01:48] <Poul^Laptop> soundray sure
[01:48] <ThaNerd> jrib: unknown init script (blah blah blah) /etc/init.d/apache not found
[01:48] <foormea> naught101, no password.
[01:48] <foormea> oh no no
[01:48] <foormea> your user password?
[01:48] <crimsun_> terlmann: leave the test running, and tell me the output from lsof /dev/dsp*
[01:48] <jrib> ThaNerd: apache2 maybe?
[01:49] <ThaNerd> jrib: yup... i'll do that now ;-)
[01:49] <AzMoo> eck, so do I have to install these in any order, or can I just do: sudo dpkg -i pkg1.deb pkg2.deb ...  ?
[01:49] <terlmann> COMMAND     PID     USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE  NODE NAME
[01:49] <terlmann> gstreamer  1012 terlmann   14w   CHR   14,3      10267 /dev/dsp
[01:49] <terlmann> rhythmbox 19925 terlmann   25w   CHR   14,3      10267 /dev/dsp
[01:49] <Galga> hi
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> !paste
[01:49] <naught101> foormea: a user account doesn't require a password, or the password is simply ""
[01:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:49] <linuxnewbie755> someone want to help me in setting up (YES, SETTING UP MY INTERNET) in edgy? i'm using charter cable, and i just can't get it to work.
[01:49] <naught101> ?
[01:49] <terlmann> terlmann@raven:~$  gstreamer-properties
[01:49] <terlmann> ALSA lib pcm_route.c:1121:(_snd_pcm_route_open) ttable is not defined
[01:49] <terlmann> gstreamer-properties-Message: Skipping unavailable plugin 'artsdsink'
[01:49] <terlmann> gstreamer-properties-Message: Skipping unavailable plugin 'esdsink'
[01:49] <crimsun_> terlmann: don't flood.
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> !paste | terlmann
[01:50] <ubotu> terlmann: please see above
[01:50] <terlmann> sorry
[01:50] <eck> AzMoo: i think it is ok if you install them in any order, as long as you stop the samba service before hand
[01:50] <Galga> is there a textonly mode or version of ubuntu ? ubuntu server ?
[01:50] <jepler> AzMoo: should be OK to install multiple packages with one 'dpkg -i'
[01:50] <ThaNerd> jrib: ok it worked. now where's the "php.ini" ?
[01:50] <foormea> naught101, uh? you have the choice not to choose a password, but that's not really recommended
[01:50] <AzMoo> thanks :)
[01:50] <mattyv> Galga: Yes server edition is text only by default
[01:50] <jrib> !php | ThaNerd
[01:50] <ubotu> ThaNerd: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:50] <cantervil> hello, some one can helpme with this
[01:50] <cantervil> http://fr.pastebin.ca/399473
[01:51] <Galga> mattyv, if i have installed ubuntu desktop version, can i switch to server ?
[01:51] <cantervil> i got problems with Java 6.0
[01:51] <Yeason> does anyone know what cdrom module to use, and what the location is for an old Dell P2 laptop? it's a modular bay cdrom
[01:51] <terlmann> Galga , yes
[01:51] <wilo> can someone help me with my terminal JRE gui
[01:51] <wilo> http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=explanationjm8.png
[01:51] <jepler> Galga: you can easily stop gdm from running by removing its entry from /etc/rcX.d, where X is your runlevel
[01:51] <ThaNerd> jrib: i didn't use lamp... i installed with synaptic
[01:51] <cantervil> please help me!
[01:51] <Galga> terlmann, any hint or page to read exactly what and how to do ?
[01:51] <jrib> ThaNerd: that page applies
[01:51] <mattyv> Galga: You can install the server components in the desktop edition and disable the gui if you want, probably won't be as lean
[01:51] <wilo> thats a screendump, and i cant progress in the configuration becuase it doesn' not give or allow any input from terminal
[01:52] <terlmann> galga : it is in synaptic : it is a ll packaged
[01:52] <jrib> wilo: you can't press up or tab maybe?
[01:52] <linuxnewbie755> everyone look here, http://charter.com/Visitors/Support.aspx?SupportArticleID=1659, does this make any sense? how can i get my cable internet to work with edgy?
[01:52] <Galga> terlmann, please what is the search string ?
[01:52] <ThaNerd> jrib: thanks again, then ;-)
[01:52] <mattyv> Galga: Have you only just installed the desktop edition? If you're comfortable with no gui then a fresh server install is easier IMO
[01:52] <wilo> jrib: lol whoops i nmever tried tab :(
[01:52] <terlmann> ubuntu ?
[01:52] <wilo> my bad
[01:52] <terlmann> crimsun- ?
[01:52] <wilo> it worked, sorry
[01:52] <terlmann> crimsun_?
[01:53] <crdlb> linuxnewbie755, it should work fine
[01:53] <Schalken> how can i create a link to my home folder on my desktop that i can drag files onto?
[01:53] <Galga> mattyv, i have 6.10 desktop version, with all the updates and couple of nifty other packages
[01:53] <jrib> wilo: that's ok, just try playing the piano on your keyboard next time :)
[01:53] <wilo> heheheh yeah i tried everything i could think of, return, e, o, k, y, a nothign wortked
[01:53] <wilo> till tab ;)
[01:53] <mattyv> Galga: If you're using it as a desktop that's perfect
[01:53] <AzMoo> eck, libpam-smbpass requires libc6 2.5 :\
[01:54] <Schalken> i tried dragging "places > homefolder" onto my desktop but it turns out to be a nautilus application launcher that you can drag files onto.
[01:54] <linuxnewbie755> crdlb, i don't get it, dsl worked fine on my ubuntu, but charter won't work at all. i don't know why, i have the internet going through a linksys workgroup switch, and it works fine like that for this windows machine, just not at all for linux.
[01:54] <whta> every time i log on, 'hdc2' is mounted and on my desktop. i unmount it with no problems, but it comes back every time. how can i fix that?
[01:54] <wilo> can anyone help me run limewire on ubuntu
[01:54] <jrib> !limewire | wilo
[01:54] <ubotu> wilo: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[01:54] <jrib> wilo: I'd recommend frostwire
[01:54] <Galga> mattyv, thanks
[01:54] <terlmann> could someone elp me - my esd system is broke , and I think it is my fault. alsa works fine.
[01:54] <Schalken> whta: see if its in your /etc/fstab
[01:54] <Mirth> Guys, I accidentally deleted my "panel" at the top.
[01:54] <crdlb> linuxnewbie755, if it's going to a router, then it should definitely work
[01:54] <Mirth> How do I get it back?
[01:54] <wilo> i converted the .rpm files to .deb packagesand i installed it and it comes up in "run command" ectb but wont actually run it
[01:54] <cantervil> !java
[01:54] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:54] <jrib> Mirth: right click on the bottom panel and create a new panel
[01:55] <kheaslett> I've installed ubuntu but grub gives me error 17 help?
[01:55] <gepatino> Schalken: in nautilus open the /homes folder
[01:55] <wilo> jrib: frostwire?
[01:55] <jrib> !frostwire | wilo
[01:55] <ubotu> wilo: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:55] <gepatino> Schalken: and drag your home dir while pressing alt
[01:55] <linuxnewbie755> crdlb, well, switch, router? same thing? right? well, dsl worked fine, but this won't work at all. i so want it to work. any ideas?
[01:55] <Galga> terlmann, thanks
[01:55] <Schalken> gepatino: okay...
[01:55] <cantervil> to install limewire
[01:55] <mattyv> Agreed, frostwire install was easy following instructions
[01:55] <wilo> ok ill try it jrib
[01:55] <cantervil> go yo synaptic
[01:55] <Mirth> jrib, that added just the panel and nothing in it :(
[01:55] <whta> schalken: it is. do i just comment that part out?
[01:56] <gepatino> Schalken: then you select make link, or something like that (i have ubuntu in spanish)
[01:56] <cantervil> or get frostwire (it's the same) on www.frostwire.com there's a .deb
[01:56] <Schalken> gepatino: yay! that worked, thanks!
[01:56] <jrib> Mirth: yes, know right click on that one > add to panel  and add the things you want.  There is no "undo" unfortunately
[01:56] <gepatino> Schalken: thats ok
[01:56] <Mirth> Dammit :(
[01:56] <Mirth> Im just gonna reinstall Ubuntu I guess
[01:56] <jrib> Mirth: wait, no
[01:56] <Mirth> Oh?
[01:57] <kraetzja_> im converting from gentoo, where im used to being able to get bleeding edge stuff pretty easily. is there an easy way to go about, say, getting all of gnome bleeding edge?
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Mirth: why would you do that?
[01:57] <Mirth> Because I don't remember what the panel had
[01:57] <Mirth> And maybe it would fix my Wireless Card.
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> Mirth: hmm, i doubt that, but i guess its possible.
[01:58] <gepatino> kraetzja_: you can get 'pretty' bleeding edge, each six months you have a new release
[01:58] <jrib> Mirth: add whatever you want.  You can create a new user or delete your current user's config files to start anew
[01:58] <gepatino> kraetzja_: you just have to be a little patient :)
[01:58] <Schalken> where are icons stored?
[01:58] <kraetzja_> gepatino, otherwise its manual?
[01:58] <kraetzja_> patience is a virtue i lack
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> Mirth: thats a good suggestion, create a new user, and it will have the default taskbar
[01:58] <jrib> Schalken: wherever you want but some are at /usr/share/pixmaps/
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> but i doubt anything was ther that will help with your wireless connection
[01:59] <Mirth> Ah
[01:59] <kraetzja_> theres got to be a mirror or too with bleeding edge packages i could throw in apt?
[01:59] <Mirth> Can I make that new user the admin?
[01:59] <linuxnewbie755> charter, ubuntu , internet problems, help!
[01:59] <Mirth> and delete this user?
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> probably, but not a 100% sure.
[01:59] <jrib> Mirth: yes, system > administration > users and groups.  The options there will let you add admin privileges
[01:59] <gepatino> kraetzja_: the versions of ubuntu are in sync with the stable verseions of gnome, so each ubuntu includes the last gnome antd the latest apps in general
[01:59] <ncaller> on ubuntu server how do you get apache2 to listen on ipv4 port 80, it seems by default to listen on ipv6 port 80
[02:00] <gepatino> kraetzja_: if you really need to have svn/cvs versions of everything, well... you'll have to do it by hand
[02:00] <kraetzja_> ohhh allllright
[02:00] <kraetzja_> thanks
[02:01] <gepatino> kraetzja_: but you could have trouble when upgrading to a later release
[02:01] <AzMoo> Well, that didn't go well.
[02:01] <FairWitness> Hey people.  Can someone lend a hand with setting up my forcedeth driver?
[02:01] <kraetzja_> im bored when things arent broken
[02:01] <gepatino> kraetzja_: :) install win
[02:01] <Schalken> jrib: the "home folder" icon isnt in there, along with all the other generic icons
[02:01] <jrib> Schalken: /usr/share/icons/
[02:01] <kraetzja_> *rimshot*
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> kraetzja_: surely you can find something to break.
[02:02] <jrib> Schalken: what do you want to do?
[02:02] <kraetzja_> IndyGunFreak, im trying!
[02:02] <AzMoo> You could fix my issue!
[02:02] <AzMoo> :D
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> kraetzja_: install automatix, people love to blame it for things..lol
[02:02] <Schalken> jrib: i have a link to my home folder on my desktop and im trying to give it its proper icon
[02:03] <jrib> Schalken: it should do that if you use gconf to place HOME on your desktop:
[02:03] <jrib> !icons | Schalken
[02:03] <ubotu> Schalken: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[02:03] <kraetzja_> front end for apt-get?
[02:03] <AzMoo> So, any other ideas of how I can get samba 3.0.24 on edgy?
[02:03] <piranesi> what does the %u do in the gnome menu editor? (i.e. firefox %u , azureus %U ...)
[02:03] <Schalken> jrib: ahh so thats the proper way to do it?
[02:04] <wilo> does anyone use beryl?
[02:04] <jrib> Schalken: the link is fine too, but this probably lets GNOME treat it as your $HOME
[02:04] <AzMoo> Wilo, I do at home.
[02:04] <cantervil> http://fr.pastebin.ca/399473
[02:04] <AaronCampbell> Ok, I'm looking to get a video card that will work well with ubuntu, with 2 monitors, and decent resolution (1680x1050).  I was told to go for an nVidia chipset.  Does the manufacturer matter?  Or the version of OpenGL support?  Or anything else?
[02:04] <gepatino> Schalken: right click on the access you've created, and click on que icon button that appears in the first tab
[02:04] <cantervil> pliz
[02:05] <linuxnewbie755_> i am having a hell of a time getting ubuntu to work with my new charter internet, (taking it through a switch)
[02:05] <wilo> AzMoo: do you like it/recommend?
[02:05] <GMWeezel> Where's the Disk Manager in Edgy Eft?
[02:05] <Schalken> gepatino: yeah i was just looking for where hte icons are, but the gconf method seems to have worked better
[02:05] <AzMoo> wilo, definitely. It's awesome.
[02:06] <Schalken> jrib: thanks that worked a treat
[02:06] <Takoda_Sky> charter here too
[02:06] <torstein> :S
[02:06] <wilo> AzMoo:  it looks hard to install
[02:06] <Takoda_Sky> no problems though
[02:06] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: how do you do it?
[02:06] <gepatino> Schalken: system icons are somewhere like /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pics
[02:06] <Takoda_Sky> do what?
[02:06] <Schalken> gepatino: yeah i got it thanks
[02:06] <linuxnewbie755_> charter internet
[02:07] <Takoda_Sky> I think your problme is deeper than charter
[02:07] <wilo> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia
[02:07] <wilo> looks difficult
[02:07] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: why do you say that?
[02:07] <AzMoo> wilo, there can be some issues during the install, but as long as you use the repositories and back up any config files you change it's easy to fix if something goes wrong.
[02:07] <Pollywog> charter must not be too difficult
[02:07] <Takoda_Sky> well I have no trouble w/ charter at all
[02:07] <cyphase> is it easy to tell which Herd a feisty alpha cd is by looking at the files?
[02:07] <Takoda_Sky> just a pile of other things ... lol
[02:07] <ncaller> is there a file in ubuntu to set the dnsdomain name of the machine in aside from /etc/hosts ?
[02:08] <Pollywog> I get lots of spam from there and spammers are not too smart, doesn't their website have the info you need?
[02:08] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: Takoda_Sky , i had no problem with dsl, but this charter seems to be too much. i don't get it. it works fine for this windows machine, but its like my linux doesn't recognize it. my linux and this windows are two different machines.
[02:08] <Takoda_Sky> I can't pretend to have the know how..  but what's up w/ charter?
[02:08] <Pollywog> oic
[02:08] <Takoda_Sky> what is the problem?
[02:08] <gepatino> ncaller: you can do it from the network manager app
[02:08] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: it doesn't work at all
[02:09] <Pollywog> You can try getting a broadband router
[02:09] <Takoda_Sky> probably your ethernet card or wifi card then
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> whats charter?
[02:09] <Takoda_Sky> just a guess
[02:09] <Pollywog> I used roaring penguin but now there is the PPPoE module
[02:09] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: well, i have this linksys 5 port workgroup switch. does that work any?
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> oh Charter cable.
[02:09] <MrFeetio> how can i add higher resolutions to xorg?
[02:09] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: but my ethernet worked fine with dsl, but what else could it be?
[02:10] <LjL> !xconfig | MrFeetio
[02:10] <ubotu> MrFeetio: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[02:10] <LjL> !fixres > MrFeetio    (MrFeetio, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:10] <Takoda_Sky> just because something works fine in windoze does not mean it will in linux
[02:10] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: well, just saying that the internet is WORKING.
[02:10] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie755: you want to connect the Linux machine directly to the Internet?
[02:10] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: yes, i think so.
[02:10] <Pollywog> you might need the PPPoE module
[02:10] <Takoda_Sky> I had a lot of trouble out of my onboard card..  installed another card.. and it auto-magically worked
[02:11] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: explain
[02:11] <wilo> AzMoo: what repositories? and how do i back up config files?
[02:11] <arrummzen_> When I do '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' the script hangs after shutting down apache2. What is wrong?
[02:11] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie755: try googling Linux and charter in a search
[02:11] <AaronCampbell> I often see 4 choices for video drivers when looking at installation instructions for things.  nVidia, ATI, XGL, and AIGLX.  Everyone says ATI is tough, nVidia is a little better, but they make is sound like having XGL or AIGLX is easiest.  Does that just require a specific video card?
[02:11] <Takoda_Sky> is that your problem? just can't browse?
[02:11] <Pollywog> if they use PPPoE
[02:11] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: now that may work, but lets see....how much would one work
[02:11] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: i can't connect with gaim, evolution, or firefox
[02:11] <Takoda_Sky> I see
[02:11] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: i did google it, but i found nothing
[02:12] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: how much does one cost?
[02:12] <Pollywog> let me check their site
[02:12] <Takoda_Sky> I'm a linux dummy.. but that is how I did it
[02:12] <AzMoo> wilo, follow the tutorial. It'll tell you what repos you need. To backup config files just copy them to somewhere else before you change the original, so you can overwrite it with the old one if you need to.
[02:12] <Pollywog> a router will cost you about $60
[02:12] <thornomad> Quick Question: from the CLI how do I determine which graphics card (chipset, whatever) my computer uses ?  I have a Dell laptop, and want to see which version of beryl I could try and install.  Don't know if it is ATI, nVidia, whatever.  Thanks.
[02:12] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: got a switch (same thing?????)
[02:12] <Pollywog> not the same thing
[02:12] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: i wouldn't mind paying for it if i new it worked.
[02:12] <hateyla> can i install *.rpm package in Ubuntu?
[02:12] <Takoda_Sky> but yeah, had all kinds of of trouble out of the integrated card
[02:12] <wilo> AzMoo: ok
[02:13] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: so you think a router would work?
[02:13] <Takoda_Sky> wifi or ethernet?
[02:13] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: ethernet
[02:13] <gepatino> hateyla: yes, using the alien utility
[02:13] <hateyla> LjL:  Welcomeback.
[02:13] <AzMoo> wilo, good luck :)
[02:13] <Takoda_Sky> you can find those pretty cheap
[02:13] <m4t> thermo: lspci
[02:13] <Takoda_Sky> hate to go that route
[02:13] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: like how much (are you talking about a card or a router?)
[02:13] <m4t> matt@deep-thought:~$ lspci|grep ATI
[02:13] <m4t> pichu0102_:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M10 NT [FireGL Mobility T2]  (rev 80)
[02:13] <Takoda_Sky> but still.. sometimes buying our way out of a headache is worth it
[02:14] <gepatino> hateyla: with alien you can convert rpm packages to debs
[02:14] <Takoda_Sky> a card
[02:14] <FairWitness> Any help with setting up eth0 to be linked to forcedeth?
[02:14] <gepatino> hateyla: then you install it using dpkg
[02:14] <Takoda_Sky> I have an extra one here..  lol   how far from TN are you?
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> Takoda_Sky: what are you buying yourself out of?
[02:14] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: ah, i agree. just wish i new for a fact it would fix it, my luck=buy it, find out something is wrong.
[02:14] <AmuLeo> Hell
[02:14] <AmuLeo> Hello
[02:14] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: , lol, thats where i am.
[02:14] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: an extra what?
[02:14] <hateyla> gepatino: thanks
[02:14] <Takoda_Sky> so buy it @ wally world.. if it don't fix it.. take it back
[02:15] <AmuLeo> Where can I download HSP56 MR driver for Ubuntu 6.06...
[02:15] <AmuLeo> ?
[02:15] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: whats that, the card, or the router? thats a good idea.
[02:15] <thornomad> m4t: thanks. got it. awesome
[02:15] <Takoda_Sky> the card
[02:15] <ee_duo> Having Trouble installing a printer driver. dpkg: error processing m2300w_0.51-2_i386.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/m2300w.xml' I renamed the file and it still gives the same error
[02:15] <m4t> yea
[02:15] <Takoda_Sky> what router are you using?
[02:15] <AmuLeo> Do you know where can I find Ubuntu 6.06 HSP56 Winmodem Driver in .deb ?
[02:15] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: so you had some sort of problem with charter with onboard? well, i am using a linksys switch.
[02:16] <gepatino> AmuLeo: search in synaptic, i think there is a package for some modems
[02:16] <Takoda_Sky> I'm using linksys WRT54G router myself
[02:16] <thornomad> m4t: ATI ... Radeon R250.  Thanks again.
[02:16] <AmuLeo> but if I search there I'll neeed to be conected
[02:16] <gepatino> AmuLeo: for example, the lucent drivers are inside restricted-modules
[02:16] <Takoda_Sky> but I think your pointing the finger at charter when really it's a hardware issue
[02:16] <AmuLeo> I'm in windoze now to search for this driver
[02:17] <cantervil> http://fr.pastebin.ca/399473
[02:17] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: i never said it was charter, i just was starting somewhere, so far i love charter, i downloaded edgy in 30 min, thats great.
[02:17] <Takoda_Sky> charter is just a tap..  to the outside world.. as long as it works in windoze.. it will work in linux
[02:17] <gepatino> AmuLeo: these packages should be in the insall cd, just add it in the repositories
[02:17] <AmuLeo> Hmmm... thanx! I dont knkow too much about Ubuntu
[02:17] <AmuLeo> I use Linux for just about 3 years!
[02:18] <AmuLeo> I was using Conectiva 10
[02:18] <AmuLeo> /;
[02:18] <AmuLeo> thanx
[02:18] <Takoda_Sky> do you have your settings set to DHCP?
[02:18] <linuxnewbie755_> Takoda_Sky: so, should i try the routher instead of a switch? the switch is working fine for this windows
[02:18] <mattyv> AmuLeo: For info try linmodems.org or the Ubuntu dialup help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:18] <blanky> questions questions questions!!
[02:18] <blanky> anyone?!
[02:18] <gepatino> AmuLeo: you can always find some help here
[02:19] <ee_duo> linuxnewbie755 What is the swict hooked to. The Cable Modem?
[02:19] <linuxnewbie755_> ee_duo: yes
[02:19] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie755: I found that Charter uses DHCP, did you specify that in your settings?
[02:19] <AmuLeo> Thanx :D
[02:19] <linuxnewbie755_> ee_duo: and the two computers, windows and linux
[02:19] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: i'm not sure. on my linux box? well, it is detected, i'm just not sure what to type or anything. got some sort of site?
[02:19] <Fujitsu> AzMoo: You'll need to rebuild it for Edgy.
[02:20] <AzMoo> Fujitsu, how?
[02:20] <Takoda_Sky> pollywog is correct..   dynamic
[02:20] <ee_duo> linuxnewbie755 Is the cable modem a router?
[02:20] <mattyv> what was your question blanky?
[02:20] <linuxnewbie755_> ee_duo: nope, just one ethernet port.
[02:20] <FairWitness> I'll just try it out.  I'm trying to set up my onboard ethernet (nforce).  The forcedeth driver worked in gentoo, but wasn't automatically set up in ubuntu.  I can load the driver, but "ifconfig eth0" gives me "Device not found".  Any suggestions?
[02:20] <AzMoo> Fujitsu, I know how to compile from source, but not make it into a package
[02:20] <blanky> mattyv: no I'm asking if anyone has one haha
[02:20] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie755: the other thing is did you specify nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[02:20] <ee_duo> linuxnewbie755 Does it have a router built in?
[02:20] <Takoda_Sky> brb
[02:20] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: nameservers? i don't know what you mean. and built in, i don't know,
[02:21] <mikefoo>  I setup samba on linux machine so I can connect from windows machine, I can see samba users home directory fine, how do I add directories outside of users home dir?  Anyone have an idea?
[02:21] <mattyv> blanky: ah, hahaha
[02:21] <blanky> mikefoo: maybe #samba
[02:21] <AzMoo> mikefoo, are you using ubuntu?
[02:21] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie755_: you need to specify nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf or you can't surf with textual urls
[02:21] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: i think you might can get it working, i just don't know much about his dhcp, and nameservers
[02:21] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: wouldn't it be default?
[02:22] <gepatino> mikefoo: you define the shares inside /etc/samba/smb.conf, inside that file you'll find some examples
[02:22] <ee_duo> linuxnewbie755 If you do not have a router, The cable modem will only assign one IP. Therefore only one computer will work on the internet.
[02:22] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie755_: cable or dsl?
[02:22] <linuxnewbie755_> ee_duo: hum..but wouldn't it work if i only had my linux box hooked up?
[02:22] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: cable
[02:22] <Pollywog> ohhh then it's not PPPoE problem
[02:23] <Pollywog> so it is probably a DHCP or nameserver problem
[02:23] <ee_duo> linuxnewbie755 It should if Linux is setup correct. Id it work on DSL before?
[02:23] <Pollywog> go to the network settings
[02:23] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: so tell me about nameserver, shouldn't it be default?
[02:23] <Pollywog> no you need to specify them
[02:23] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: ee_duo this will be hard, my linux box is upstairs.
[02:23] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: how do i do that?
[02:24] <Pollywog> system settings > network
[02:24] <Pollywog> system settings > network settings
[02:24] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: ok, ???
[02:24] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: im using edgy
[02:24] <Lattyware> umount /dev/hdd1 -> umount: /dev/hdd1 mount disagrees with the fstab .... What am I doing wrong?
[02:24] <C2H5OH> hi
[02:24] <Pollywog> do you see the network card or modem listed there?
[02:25] <Pollywog> system settings > network settings
[02:25] <C2H5OH> is it normal that I can't find the edgy livecd iso image from cdimage.ubuntu.com from rsync?
[02:25] <linuxnewbie755_> network card, yes i do, but my linux box is upstairs, so this could get complicated, could you give me some sort of tutorial?
[02:25] <Pollywog> oh are you using Gnome or KDE
[02:25] <Pollywog> ?
[02:25] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: gnome
[02:26] <Pollywog> oh then I don't recall but there is a place to specify network settings
[02:26] <Jaguar> Lattyware: Your /etc/fstab file doesn't contain the rest of the information to properly unmount the drive your specified (ie, no entry for /dev/hdd1).
[02:26] <Pollywog> I am in KDE atm
[02:26] <Pollywog> or
[02:26] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: but what do i need to do? enable nameservers?
[02:26] <Pollywog> you can specify the nameservers by editing /etc/resolv.conf
[02:26] <Lattyware> Jaguar: But there is an entry
[02:26] <Pollywog> like this:
[02:27] <Jaguar> Lattyware: What's the entry look like?
[02:27] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: what do you mean specify the nameservers? would i have to do that for each site i visit?
[02:27] <Pollywog> nameserver  the.ip.add.ress
[02:27] <Lattyware> # /dev/hdd1
[02:27] <Lattyware> UUID=b151bd58-b23c-4282-a13f-3cbd4904bd9e /media/hdd1   	ext3    	defaults        			0 2
[02:27] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie755_: no
[02:27] <ee_duo> Can Any one tell me why Dpkg tells me that it can not over-right a file that does not exist?
[02:27] <Pollywog> you specify the ones charter gave you
[02:27] <Pollywog> usually one or two
[02:27] <linuxnewbie755_> ok, /etc/resolv.conf, what do i do? i don't have anything charter gave me, i don't think.
[02:28] <Pollywog> let me see if I can get some for you
[02:28] <Pollywog> hold on
[02:28] <linuxnewbie755_> Pollywog: roger
[02:28] <Lattyware> ...
[02:28] <Pollywog> like this:
[02:28] <Pollywog> nameserver 24.196.241.10
[02:28] <linuxnewbie755_> .
[02:29] <Pollywog> is it charter.com?
[02:29] <Lattyware> Jaguar: Anything wrong?
[02:29] <linuxnewbie755_> so, what is that? my ip address? or what/ dhcp address?
[02:29] <Jaguar> Lattyware: Give me a second :P.
[02:29] <Pollywog> just put that in the file
[02:29] <Pollywog> if it is charter.com
[02:29] <Pollywog> is that your domain?
[02:29] <linuxnewbie755_> my domain?
[02:29] <Pollywog> hold on
[02:30] <Jaguar> Lattyware: Do you manually mount /dev/hdd1 or is it automatic?
[02:30] <Lattyware> Automatic
[02:30] <Jaguar> Lattyware: That's rather strange, they shouldn't disagree...
[02:31] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie755_: charter.net?
[02:31] <Pollywog> or com?
[02:31] <linuxnewbie755_> .com, or i think.
[02:31] <deviantintegral> 1) Ubuntu live cd is awesome. If anyone here is involved with that, thank you for saving me much pain :)
[02:32] <linuxnewbie755_> well, .net is this windows machine's homepage
[02:32] <Pollywog> nameserver 24.196.241.10
[02:32] <Pollywog> try that one
[02:32] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: now you can send me whatever you needed to.
[02:32] <Pollywog> I was trying to find out your hostname
[02:32] <Pollywog> could not get it
[02:33] <Jaguar> So much for looking up a solution for Lattyware....
[02:33] <deviantintegral> 2) I've discovered that /etc/init.d/evms is somehow *breaking* evms as set up by the script in initramfs, causing my raid 5 devices to be discovered as md devices instead as evms volumes. I can't seem to find any similar problems via google, is this something I should file a bug for somewhere?
[02:33] <Jaguar> His loss I guess.
[02:33] <Pollywog> so put that in your file
[02:33] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: what do you mean my hostname,
[02:33] <Pollywog> nameserver 24.196.241.10
[02:33] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: put what?
[02:33] <Pollywog> nameserver 24.196.241.10
[02:33] <Pollywog> in /etc/resolv.conf
[02:33] <Pollywog> try it see if that works
[02:34] <Meshezabeel> what is the text web browser in ubuntu?
[02:34] <Coffeegrindah> has anyone in here ever attempted at modifiying the Live CD? I've used reconstructor and came out with a fairly sweet custom live/install CD. now I've just got to deal with a persistant live issue.. fun times.
[02:34] <Meshezabeel> lynx, links, and links2 don't work
[02:35] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: hold on a sec.
[02:35] <SubMOA> is Fujitsu active today?
[02:35] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: i've modified a dapper cd for an interesting project last year, what's your problem
[02:35] <naught101> when I try to run 'sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart' I get:
[02:35] <naught101> apache2: Syntax error on line 189 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory
[02:35] <naught101> anyone know what's up?
[02:36] <cafuego_> You have an incomplete install
[02:36] <Pollywog> seems that way
[02:36] <cafuego_> You probably didn';t install an mpm. get 'apache2-mpm-prefork'
[02:36] <naught101> that's what I thought... just installed through apt-get though
[02:37] <naught101> ok
[02:37] <Coffeegrindah> gepatino: simply put users// when i boot "live" i know there has to be a user besides root, I've called mine geek2go. now the issue is once I've booted to a persistant envidronment I no longer have a need for a live User, but booting even live persistant will load the user again
[02:37] <kalin> i've got grub trying to boot with 'root (hd3, 0)' and using kernel <image> root=/dev/sdb1, but it gives an error of Filesystem unknown: Type 0x7, which is NTFS. I suspect that grub is trying to use the wrong hdd and i need to setup some map() commands in the grub configuration, but i dont really understand it. Does this sound like the issue?
[02:37] <cafuego_> prefork is the standard one that works with php; if you don't need php, and are running a high-volume sit,m you may want to experiment with other mpms.
[02:37] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: i put it there, do i need to restart?
[02:37] <naught101> cafuego_: that's already installed
[02:37] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie: email charter and ask them to tell you where you can find the nameserver info and such
[02:37] <Coffeegrindah> gepatino: basically, I need to remove the geek2go user after booting persistantly.
[02:38] <Pollywog> no you don't need to restart
[02:38] <Pollywog> this is Linux not windows
[02:38] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: didn't work, if i bought me a router, would it work?
[02:38] <gar> Can I use my windows smart phone as a modem in ubuntu? I can do it in xp.
[02:38] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie756: yes but you would still need to enter correct info, like DHCP
[02:38] <maddash> kalin: how sure are you that /dev/sdb1 is not NTFS?
[02:38] <cafuego_> Hmm
[02:38] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: what do you mean with booting persistantly? do you use a pendrive for homes, or have you installed to hard disk?
[02:38] <Coffeegrindah> i realize i may have to chroot into my squashfs and remove him manually. sure it will break the "Live" session but thats ok as I need just the Persistance
[02:39] <Pollywog> call or email charter and ask them to advise you
[02:39] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: what do i need to enter there? dhcp?
[02:39] <DWRZ> Hello everyone. So... I created a partition in Windows XP (should've used GParted but I didn't know at the time), it uses W95 FAT 32. How do I mount it from Ubuntu? I've read FAQS that do NTFS of the actual windows, but this is just a separate partition that is FAT32...so... how do I mount and have it mount automatically in the future?
[02:39] <kalin> maddash, i was fairly sure it was the partition that i installed ubuntu on, when it boots the live cd i will just double check with gparted
[02:39] <AaronMT> !dual
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <AaronMT> !dualboot
[02:39] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:39] <Pollywog> You need to set up the network settings
[02:40] <maddash> !fat32
[02:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:40] <AaronMT> !inspiron
[02:40] <maddash> !fat32 | DWRZ
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inspiron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <ubotu> DWRZ: please see above
[02:40] <AaronMT> !dell
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <Pollywog> the reason they did not tell you nameservers is that XP detects them, but Ubuntu does not
[02:40] <Coffeegrindah> gepatino .. Usb. Its' a side project for an admin team.. they need bootable usb drives that have VPN access.. I can get that far, however for security reasons, the "geek2go" user has to be removed.
[02:40] <Meshezabeel> !fat64
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fat64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <linuxnewbie756> like the ip address, subnet mask, and default gateway? i know what they are in windows, would i just copy those over to my linux box?
[02:40] <Pollywog> but you probably just need to set up the network settings
[02:41] <KlasRudian> kalin, i have that issue to with my server, because i'v got alot of extention cards in it, so grub marks a disc by default that's isn't the boot disc... what i do then is reboot an change grub "on-the-fly"
[02:41] <kalin> ok, /dev/sdb1 is certainly the ubuntu installation drive
[02:41] <naught101> cafuego_: if I try re-installing it, which packages should I re-install?
[02:41] <cafuego_> naught101: I'm checking
[02:41] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie756: look around the Ubuntu website, that might help you
[02:41] <naught101> cool
[02:41] <KlasRudian> by hitting "e" when grub boot's up, and change the boot disc to the right one
[02:41] <kalin> KlasRudian, i'm not sure what you mean. i am using super grub boot disc to try and boot from the partition, but grub fails to load off the partition
[02:41] <AaronMT> I allocated 10gigs for ubuntu is that enough for a default installation
[02:42] <cafuego_> naught101: Actually, doesn't matter: 'sudo touch /etc/apache2/httpd.conf'
[02:42] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: look for what? and why does everyone else that has charter have such an easy time?
[02:42] <cafuego_> naught101: It' an empty file anwyay.
[02:42] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: is the squashfs file readonly? in that case i doubt it could be modified, so no geek2go dir saved
[02:42] <Coffeegrindah> Aaron, I'm running off 4 :)
[02:42] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: just guessing
[02:42] <naught101> cafuego_: empty? ok, I'll give it a go
[02:42] <Schalken> where can i set "kernel options"?
[02:42] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie756: it's because they know how to set up the networking settings
[02:42] <Pollywog> go to that menu I told you about
[02:42] <linuxnewbie756> but they say they didn't have to do anything
[02:42] <linuxnewbie756> cheeseboy: you still here?
[02:42] <KlasRudian> kalin, when grub boot's up, hit e and edit the boot line until you find the right disc, then remember that and edit grub.list when it's completly booted up
[02:42] <KlasRudian> that's how i do it
[02:42] <Pollywog> Gnome has one but I am not in front of Gnome
[02:43] <cafuego_> naught101: Yes, all configuration is done via symlinks in sites-enabled and mods-enabled, and ports.conf
[02:43] <Pollywog> they told you that because they are windows friendly
[02:43] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie756 , in spirt
[02:43] <Pollywog> windows detects the settings
[02:43] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: ok, but i have the dhcp info in windows, can i copy that to my linux box?
[02:43] <Pollywog> yes
[02:43] <Coffeegrindah> gepatino, well even f it is I have access to the squashfs that i need to modify. I've just never done it (other than using reconstructor which btw it pretty farking sweet)
[02:43] <KlasRudian> menu.list*
[02:43] <Pollywog> use the same info
[02:43] <naught101> cafuego_: cool, it worked, but i got this:sudo touch /etc/apache2/httpd.con
[02:43] <SubMOA> I would like to change my usplash... is there an easy way to do it? (I don't know C, etc.)
[02:43] <Pollywog> and nameservers
[02:43] <naught101> sorry
[02:43] <linuxnewbie756> cheeseboy: WHAT exactly in linux did you do to get your charter to work?
[02:43] <Pollywog> if you see that info
[02:43] <naught101> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[02:44] <naught101> seems to work anyway
[02:44] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: nameservers in windows? i haven't ever seen anything like that
[02:44] <cafuego_> naught101: yeah, that's fine
[02:44] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie756: because XP detects it
[02:44] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie756 ,latest dapperand edgy eft 6.10
[02:44] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: well.. i think it's inherent to the media you are using,is there any usbdrive with a hardware readonly switch?
[02:45] <BigLebowski> You'd have to fill in the name servers in windows if you weren't using dhcp.
[02:45] <linuxnewbie756> so, there is a charter.com and charter.net, .net is the homepage for this windows machine, the one the tech guy set up.
[02:45] <Pollywog> k so use that
[02:45] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: i've only used CDROMs, so never had that kind of problems, sorry
[02:45] <linuxnewbie756> i don't know the nameserver type thing you did.
[02:45] <eegore> anyone play with fluxbuntu?
[02:45] <naught101> cafuego_: now, when I got to http://localhost/test.php it tries to downlowd the file... know how to fix that? I have php installed properly as far as teh instructions go
[02:45] <bayziders> Is there any word on the realease date of Fiesty?
[02:46] <blanky> guys, I urgently need to ssh into my friends computer but I don't want him to give me his password and username, how can he make a separate username/password for me to ssh into his computer?
[02:46] <Taxman> bayziders: april 19
[02:46] <Coffeegrindah> gepatino:  s'ok, and unless my google-fu is weak today, it doesn't apear many people have
[02:46] <naught101> eegore: downloaded it, but haven't go around to installing it yet :/
[02:46] <BigLebowski> naught: theres a problem with httpd.conf, you havent added php properly
[02:46] <cheeseboy>  bayziders, april 19th
[02:46] <jrib> blanky: just have him create a new user:  system > administration > users and groups
[02:46] <naught101> heh. BigLebowski: what should be added there?
[02:46] <eegore> naught101: I was thinking of using it on a hardcore gaming box
[02:46] <blanky> jrib: how can he do this through the terminal
[02:46] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie756: go to their website they might have setup info so you can connect.
[02:46] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: i'm really sorry i have to go, my pizza is ready and my girl waiting for me for dinner
[02:46] <jrib> blanky: adduser
[02:47] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: good luck
[02:47] <gar> is there a linux program similar to activesync?
[02:47] <blanky> jrib: you got an example? thanks though
[02:47] <Coffeegrindah> Gepatino thanks
[02:47] <jrib> blanky: sudo adduser blanky
[02:47] <Pollywog> otherwise you will have to get Linspire  ;)
[02:47] <AWOSDev> What is the file .xsession-errors for?
[02:47] <gepatino> see you
[02:47] <blanky> jrib: then it asks for password, thanks
[02:47] <AWOSDev> It is 2 gigabytes in size, in my home directory.
[02:47] <blanky> jrib: and it should let me ssh into his computer with that information?
[02:47] <Pollywog> gotta go fix my wifi
[02:47] <jrib> blanky: yes, you may want him to add you to the "admin" group so you can sudo
[02:47] <Taxman> my bios doesn't seem to see my USB cd-rom, is there a good boot floppy that might be able to help?
[02:48] <blanky> jrib: oh, right, how can he do that? through the terminal
[02:48] <AWOSDev> Is it necessary?
[02:48] <idn> hi i am running a server on one of my computers with ubuntu installed and I was wondering if there is a way to list the packages pending to be updated without running apt-get upgrade because sometimes I just want to see what is pending and not update
[02:48] <jrib> blanky: sudo adduser blanky admin
[02:48] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: what do you mean, could you check the website with me?
[02:48] <blanky> jrib: thanks for the help I apprecaite it
[02:48] <BigLebowski> naught: i'm not too sure, it's been a while, i'm pretty sure you'll need to AddType and set index.php as an index though
[02:48] <jrib> blanky: np
[02:48] <dekela> Hi People
[02:48] <gar> hi
[02:48] <Coffeegrindah> From the sounds of things (and I'm quasi-newb 7 years in the making) I'm going to have to mount my squashfs from within a live Environment, chroot into it and remove a user.. anyone care to help?
[02:49] <AaronCampbell> Ok, I'm looking to get a video card that will work well with ubuntu, with 2 monitors, and decent resolution (1680x1050).  I was told to go for an nVidia chipset.  Does the manufacturer matter?  Or the version of OpenGL support?  Or anything else?
[02:49] <AWOSDev> Hrm.
[02:49] <dekela> Anyone knows how can I enable my mounted partitions to be seen on the desktop? Gnome 2.18 feisty
[02:49] <AWOSDev> The ~/.xsession-errors file is continually growing, and now over 2GB in size.
[02:49] <Schalken> !kernel options
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel options - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <naught101> is the apache 1.3 httpd.conf significantly different to the one for apache2?
[02:49] <thugren> Aaroncampbell. I am working on tha same problem..
[02:49] <naught101> could I just copy it over, since it seems to be there
[02:50] <idn> arranCampell: yeah go for nvidia definately, the manufacturer doesnt really matter. I would go for a 7 series card if i were you, something like the 7300 would be ok, i think you can get that passive (wuthout a fan) as well
[02:50] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: well, im turning in for tonight, i will try some more tommorow. thanks for the help
[02:50] <AaronCampbell> thugren: trying to get yours working?  Or looking for a new card?
[02:50] <thugren> Aaroncampbell. I am just trying to get the latest version working on my pc..
[02:50] <theherbalizer> okay, so i used "pmount sdb1" to mount my muvo 100 and copied my files over, but "umount sdb1" gives me "umount: sdb1 is not mounted (according to mtab)" what's going on here?
[02:50] <idn> also make sure you get a card with two dvi outputs and not one div, one vga
[02:51] <AaronCampbell> idn: what about OpenGL 2.0 vs OpenGL 1.5?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> idn: why's that, you can jus use dvi to vga adaptes if you want.
[02:51] <thugren> Aaroncampbell, No getting the Nvidia Drivers going.. I know with SuSe There is another Program Call Compiz or somthhing to that effect to get the Dual monitor going
[02:51] <dekela> Do you know why gaim in the SW repositories is suppose to come with sametime support but its not?
[02:51] <AaronCampbell> Because DVI->VGA loses nothing, but the other way is not so nice
[02:52] <idn> yeah but you loose quality from going dvi->vga->dvi, its better to get two dvi then its digital all the way to the monitor, no loss of quality.
[02:52] <jrib> tonyyarusso: no, but... can it still handle teg?!
[02:52] <AWOSDev> Nevermind, the problem was that Kate was continually checking a file and logging it to .xsession-errors.
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> i see
[02:52] <thugren> Aaroncampbell, Depends on whatyou are need it for? :)
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> jrib: with lots of stutter, sure
[02:52] <dekela> found it.. Need to add meanwhile support from synaptic
[02:52] <john__> Question
[02:53] <idn> i am not sure on the opengl version tho, i have a 7 series and it was awesome for linux, no problems at all
[02:53] <AaronCampbell> idn: what exact card do you have?  I'll check the openGL version on it
[02:53] <john__> I wanna edit "Interfaces" in the text editor, but it won't let me "Save"; it's greyed out.  Thoughts?
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> john__: use sudo
[02:53] <john__> Im new to ubuntu :(
[02:54] <john__> Maybe I should just stick to windows...
[02:54] <ardchoille> john__: use gksudo with gui apps
[02:54] <john__> oh..
[02:54] <idn> i did have a 7800gtx 512, not anymore tho sold it to get a macbook with a crappy ati card lol
[02:54] <ardchoille> !gksudo | IndyGunFreak
[02:54] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[02:54] <eegore> john__: try kubuntu
[02:54] <xtknight> john__: just wait a couple weeks, you'll think windows sucks :)
[02:54] <Jaguar> john__: You're going to want to learn about privilleges in linux, it'll save you a lot of headache.
[02:54] <theherbalizer> okay, so i used "pmount sdb1" to mount my muvo 100 and copied my files over, but "umount sdb1" gives me "umount: sdb1 is not mounted (according to mtab)" what's going on here?
[02:55] <idn> if you want to run compiz i would check out the compiz/beryl forums, you may need a better card to run it over two screens, although personall i dont see it being a problem at all
[02:55] <scubasteve> would anyone happen to know any reasons for a slow booting ubuntu (fresh install)
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: so why is gksudo so much better?
[02:55] <eegore> john__: I remembder the days of dos
[02:55] <john__> lol
[02:55] <Schalken> where can i set/view "kernel options"?
[02:55] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[02:55] <john__> DOS was whack :D
[02:55] <xtknight> Schalken: grub menu.lst
[02:55] <eegore> everything was command line and batch start files
[02:55] <Schalken> i want to check if "extended attributes" is set
[02:55] <xtknight> Schalken: hm no idea what you mean by that?  context?
[02:56] <Linuturk> what is the most likely cause of gnome settings deamon throwing an error at the load up of a system.
[02:56] <Linuturk> ??
[02:56] <kalin> hmm, well, turns out that grub just wanted to boot from hd0, not hd3, even though its /dev/sdb1... confusing
[02:56] <xtknight> Linuturk: corrupted ~/.gnome or ~/.gnome2 folders?  (just  a guess)
[02:56] <Schalken> xtknight<a href="http://beagle-project.org/Enabling_Extended_Attributes">: im following the beagle howto: Enabling Extended Attributes - Beagle</a>
[02:56] <theherbalizer> anyone?
[02:56] <Schalken> xtknight: lol did that go across linked?
[02:56] <napsy> hello. does anyone know the name of a program in the repository that simulates the pc ... simething like visualpc?
[02:56] <xtknight> Schalken: nah irc doesn't use html.  i've got it though, don tworry
[02:57] <X86echo> john__: try it for a few weeks read read read stay up all night until your get headaches
[02:57] <X86echo> :-)
[02:57] <Schalken> napsy: you mean vmware or wine?
[02:57] <AaronMT> !vista
[02:57] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[02:57] <john__> So, using the terminal, what do I type so I can edit the file in: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:57] <idn> so does anyone know how to list the packages pending upgrade without a gui and without typing apt-get upgrade?
[02:57] <theherbalizer> lol @ ubotu
[02:57] <xtknight> Schalken: they are actually talking about the kernel configuration itself
[02:57] <Nab> vista is the best operating system ever made!
[02:57] <DWRZ> Hello everyone. So... I created a partition in Windows XP (should've used GParted but I didn't know at the time), it uses W95 FAT 32. How do I mount it from Ubuntu? I've read FAQS that do NTFS of the actual windows, but this is just a separate partition that is FAT32...so... how do I mount and have it mount automatically in the future?
[02:57] <Schalken> xtknight: do you know where i can see that?
[02:57] <napsy> Schalken: not a virtualization program ... a program that shows how the pc works
[02:57] <ardchoille> john__: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:57] <xtknight> Schalken: kernel options are generally what is passed to the kernel at bootup.  the kernel config describes how the kernel was actually built
[02:57] <Nab> ....from microsoft :P
[02:58] <DWRZ> (sorry for double posting, had to leave computer)
[02:58] <xtknight> Schalken: Edgy?
[02:58] <taliban> +3
[02:58] <Schalken> xtknight: yup
[02:58] <xtknight> Schalken: cat /boot/config-2.6.17-11-generic | grep OPTION_REFERRED_TO
[02:58] <mEck0> hmm, what does "computer savvy" means?
[02:58] <xtknight> mEck0: smart with computers
[02:58] <john__> Thanks ardchoille
[02:58] <theherbalizer> anyone know anything about pmount/umout?
[02:58] <mEck0> xtknight, aha, ok thx
[02:59] <ardchoille> john__: You're welcome :)
[02:59] <binskipy2u> anyone else checking out ubuntu ultimate 1.2
[02:59] <john__> Gotta reboot and see if this works. Be back in a little! :)
[02:59] <Schalken> xtknight: "/boot/config-2.6.17-11-generic: No such file or directory" :(
[02:59] <binskipy2u> its really nice
[02:59] <theherbalizer> binskipy2u: link?
[02:59] <xtknight> Schalken: cat /boot/config-`uname -r` | grep OPTION_REFERRED_TO
[02:59] <theherbalizer> !pmount
[02:59] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[02:59] <binskipy2u> http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/index.html
[03:00] <theherbalizer> !umount
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <binskipy2u> grab 1.2
[03:00] <Schalken> xtknight: i yeah i see it in /boot..lets see...
[03:00] <theherbalizer> ty
[03:00] <binskipy2u> yw
[03:00] <xtknight> Schalken: damn this is a record for me.  ok we will just do it the old fashioned way :).  type "cat /boot/config-" then immediately press tab
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | xtknight
[03:00] <ubotu> xtknight: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:00] <xtknight> ehh my bad
[03:01] <Jaguar> Never new that was classified as a 'bad' word.
[03:01] <Jaguar> know'
[03:01] <Jaguar> knew'... :/
[03:01] <Schalken> xtknight: yay it found "CONFIG_EXT3_FS_XATTR=y"
[03:01] <binskipy2u> pc police action
[03:01] <theherbalizer> oi, dualcore kernel built in? nice
[03:01] <blanky> jrib: are you there
[03:01] <theherbalizer> !ohmy | ubotu
[03:01] <ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:01] <blanky> jrib: I ssh'ed into his computer under the username I created but he can't screen -x cause we're different users, how can he screen into my screen?
[03:01] <xtknight> Schalken: that (=y) means it was built in to the kernel.  if it said =m, that would mean it was a separate module, which you could load using modprobe.  if it said n, that would mean it was not compiled
[03:01] <theherbalizer> lol
[03:02] <binskipy2u> ubuntu has one hello-of-a community
[03:02] <Schalken> xtknight: okay, now it says to add "user_xattr" to the line in fstab. should i do that for both my root and home partitions?
[03:02] <xtknight> Schalken: the =y ones are always with you.  you don't need any .ko files, they are "statically linked" into the kernel image, meaning they are all packed into the huge (relatively) kernel file
[03:02] <jrib> blanky: oh, you have to do something like setuid root screen... I think man screen talks about it.  google for it if it doesn't.  I don't remember the exact steps off the top of my head.  Let me know if you can't find anything and I"ll search too
[03:02] <xtknight> Schalken: if you want to be able to search root and home.
[03:03] <xtknight> Schalken: i recommend it
[03:03] <blanky> jrib: yeah I'm manning screen but I'm not really smart about all this :(
[03:03] <Schalken> xtknight: lol well beagle isnt going to index root, but might as well.
[03:03] <xtknight> Schalken: no?
[03:03] <Schalken> xtknight: no?
[03:03] <xtknight> Schalken: beagle doesn't index root you're saying?  or is it that you just have it set up that way?
[03:03] <john__> Eh, guys, I really help....
[03:03] <Schalken> i mean, what?
[03:03] <jrib> blanky: join me #ubuntu-classroom
[03:03] <john__> I just can't figure this out, being new and all.
[03:03] <Schalken> xtknight: no it only indexes your home directory.
[03:04] <leku> how do you add ram to a dell latitude d620?
[03:04] <slvmchn_> can anyone recommend an IRC client besides x-chat or xchat-gnome
[03:04] <xtknight> Schalken: ah alright, didn't know
[03:04] <john__> Been trying for hours
[03:04] <binskipy2u> figure what out john_?
[03:04] <binskipy2u> i didnt see you ask anyway
[03:04] <binskipy2u> anything
[03:04] <Schalken> xtknight: but you can have it index the whole FS if you want...
[03:04] <theherbalizer> leku: go to crucial.com if you don't know what kind you need, open it, add ram.
[03:04] <theherbalizer> leku: oh, forgot the 'buy the ram' step
[03:04] <leku> slvmchn: irc2.9_roof
[03:04] <leku> I have it
[03:04] <binskipy2u> when i hit the 15mil flalotto tonight
[03:04] <theherbalizer> you need that too
[03:04] <binskipy2u> ill hvae me a nice quad core intel
[03:04] <leku> i'm hoping i just unscrew this thing on the back
[03:04] <binskipy2u> ;)
[03:04] <leku> but i fear it might be under the keyboard
[03:05] <john__> My Wireless Card won't automatically detect any networks, but if I put in the ESSID as "hello" (my network's name) it works
[03:05] <theherbalizer> leku: well, unscrew the thing on the back
[03:05] <theherbalizer> leku: it wont hurt anything
[03:05] <leku> i know
[03:05] <john__> Someone told me to install NetworkManager, and I did, but that only has the option for "Wired Connection"
[03:05] <thugren> I am Draw a blank how do you enable the root account again?
[03:05] <binskipy2u> i dont have a wireless network
[03:05] <john__> Ah :(
[03:05] <xtknight> !root | thugren
[03:05] <ubotu> thugren: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:05] <binskipy2u> you are in ubuntu right john?did you check their forums
[03:05] <SilentDis> hello :)
[03:05] <Schalken> xtknight: okay done. anyway to know if it worked?
[03:06] <binskipy2u> they have every issue under the sun darn near addressed
[03:06] <john__> Yeah, I made a thread
[03:06] <sanityx> How do I control what services run at boot with upstart?
[03:06] <xtknight> Schalken: you'll have to remount your file systems for the change to take effect
[03:06] <leku> yeah i am sure it is on the back
[03:06] <leku> brb
[03:06] <Schalken> xtknight: did so
[03:06] <xtknight> Schalken: meaning somehow forcefully unmount your home partition, but i'd just reboot
[03:06] <Schalken> xtknight: k will do
[03:06] <Schalken> sanityx: sys> admin> services
[03:06] <xtknight> Schalken: what do you mean when you said 'did so'?
[03:06] <sanityx> Schalken, non gui
[03:06] <Sayers> is there a java channel?
[03:07] <xtknight> !info sysv-rc-conf | sanityx
[03:07] <ubotu> sanityx: sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-5 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[03:07] <sanityx> sysv config tool works for upstart?
[03:07] <Schalken> okay brb
[03:07] <xtknight> sanityx: oh, didnt catch that part.  i'm not sure
[03:07] <john__> Not to be offensive or anything, but how are we going to get people to switch from Windows to Linux when it really isn't that newbie friendly?
[03:07] <sanityx> xtknight, I'm running 6.10 so I need upstart controls.
[03:07] <cdmwebs> is there a way to recursively find identical directories??
[03:08] <Sayers> john_ : it's friendly whats the problem
[03:08] <sanityx> Anybody know?
[03:08] <SilentDis> john__: i wouldn't call *nix harder than windows, just different.  there is a difference :)
[03:08] <Jaguar> john__: That's why Ubuntu is constantly being improved, it is working towards that completely user friendly state.
[03:08] <xtknight> john__: it gets more newbie friendly every release.  Feisty will be more so, as edgy does have some usability flaws imo.  after you have someone set up video drivers (unaccelerated ones are unacceptable), it's very friendly though
[03:08] <hateyla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10832/      this problem is in the system startup when checking all filesystem .. c0z of this my linux starting bit slow
[03:08] <john__> I suppose.
[03:08] <sanityx> SilentDis, I would call it harder than windows. I love it anyway, but it's harder.
[03:09] <john__> I asked like 50 people about my problem, and it's just too hard for everyone.
[03:09] <Sayers> john_: Everytime some programmer helps the community by adding somthing , may it be a game all the way to a Mp3 converter, and inbetween, people are making it easier and better.
[03:09] <xtknight> john__: what problem?
[03:09] <Coffeegrindah> for usability problems I've got an old copy of caldera 2.1 somewhere or Mandrake 6..  I'd say we've come a long way
[03:09] <bayziders> Does edgy use the newest linux kernel?
[03:09] <john__> My Wireless Card not detecting any networks in the drop down box.
[03:09] <xtknight> some day everybody will need to edit a config file..that's pretty much inevitable with any Linux distro unless all you do is browse the web
[03:09] <sanityx> Nobody knows upstart here?
[03:09] <jrib> !upstart | sanityx
[03:09] <ubotu> sanityx: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:09] <xtknight> john__: it would probably be harder to debug that problem on windows, actually.
[03:10] <sanityx> jrib, ... I know what it does
[03:10] <SilentDis> sanityx: while I admit i'm a 'latecommer' to linux on the desktop (didn't start using it as such till about july 06), i had been using various *nix distros on server equipment for years before.  I guess that's colored my perceptions :)
[03:10] <jrib> sanityx: "Nobody knows upstart here?"
[03:10] <john__> I could probably figure it out in Windows, but I'm going to school for that stuff
[03:10] <john__> because*
[03:10] <xtknight> john__: there are plenty of people here who know about wireless quite a bit.  unfortunately my knowledge of it is rather limited.
[03:10] <Jaguar> john__: What kind of card? `lspci | grep 'Network'`
[03:10] <john__> it's an Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG
[03:11] <xtknight> john__: report results of " sudo lshw -class network | grep driver"
[03:11] <tjl30> does anyone know how I can extract a RAR archive file?
[03:11] <xtknight> !unrar | tjl30
[03:11] <ubotu> tjl30: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:11] <sanityx> thats interesting, it seems not all daemons are running using upstart. otherwise the stop/start commands would be able to control them.
[03:11] <hateyla> no one familier with my problem?
[03:12] <kingcobra> please tell me how to open or install gnome partition editor
[03:12] <jrib> sanityx: upstart in edgy just runs the sysv init scripts
[03:12] <tjl30> which unrar
[03:12] <xtknight> !gparted | kingcobra
[03:12] <ubotu> kingcobra: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:12] <sanityx> jrib, ok.
[03:12] <tjl30> the one by RAR labs ?
[03:12] <sanityx> jrib, so what use is that?
[03:12] <jrib> sanityx: preparation
[03:12] <sanityx> jrib, good point
[03:12] <sanityx> What about 7.04?
[03:12] <boontux> Hey guys. I'm having problems getting the nonfree flash package to work. It works under firefox but I can't get it to work under Mozilla. I'm using Edgy. Any suggestions?
[03:13] <mattyv> bayziders: Edgy uses a a 2.6.17 kernel, not the newest
[03:13] <jrib> sanityx: and you can write stuff for it I guess.  I think 7.04 is starting to move them over, but I am not sure.  There is a policy set in place for a timeframe that I don't recall
[03:13] <kingcobra> xtknight: thanx very much
[03:13] <xtknight> the latest kernel is 2.6.20.3
[03:13] <xtknight> the next version of ubuntu will use some version of 2.6.20...
[03:13] <Netham45> does feisty have any WIFI support currently?
[03:13] <jrib> !feisty
[03:13] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:14] <xtknight> Netham45: i'd sure hope so
[03:14] <Netham45> need to reconnect, brb
[03:14] <blanky> hey guys I got apache, what packages should I get for mysql and php ?
[03:14] <xtknight> !lamp | blanky maybe this
[03:14] <ubotu> blanky maybe this: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:15] <john__> Testing
[03:15] <blanky> meh
[03:15] <sanityx> !runlevel
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <sanityx> !runlevels
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <sanityx> !init
[03:15] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:15] <AndrewB> sanityx: can you pm the bot please.
[03:15] <sanityx> sorry
[03:15] <kingcobra> xtknight: brilliant thanx again
[03:15] <john__> I think I got it finally.
[03:15] <xtknight> kingcobra: no problem
[03:16] <john__> Well, got the NetworkManager to work
[03:16] <john__> Not sure if it detected my network because I had it in there before or cause i scanned it...
[03:16] <xtknight> blanky: "sudo apt-get install php5 php5-mysql mysql-server-4.1" or something like it
[03:16] <blanky> xtknight: thanks
[03:16] <ThaNerd> i have a bug in crontab (or i am stupid...)
[03:17] <zoot666> when will there be better support for WLAN.... like the linksys USB wusb54
[03:17] <xtknight> zoot666: that card requires ndiswrapper, right?
[03:17] <zoot666> didn't work
[03:17] <AndrewB> zoot666: when people like linksys openly distribute the specs.
[03:18] <zoot666> has not worked for 5 years! and i have not been able to use linux.
[03:18] <Fujitsu> zoot666: You can thank Linksys for that.
[03:18] <xtknight> zoot666: why not get another pci card supported by linux and use the usb on another windows system
[03:18] <AndrewB> zoot666: look online.. you may find a petition.
[03:18] <kieran> hi, im new to ubuntu and i would like to get my wireless pc card working, can any one help?
[03:18] <mattyv> zoot666: when the chipset manufacturer makes a driver or releases specs...ie. never
[03:18] <GMWeezel> How do I mount a "dd" image?
[03:18] <salty> get a new card and enjoy linux...i did
[03:18] <xtknight> kieran: yes, we need to know the model of it
[03:18] <zoot666> what card?
[03:19] <salty> i got the netgear wg511t
[03:19] <john__> Anyone have "Wifi Radar"?
[03:19] <zoot666> works out of the box?
[03:19] <sanityx> Ok so upstart just runs the init script. but there's no longer an inittab file. so for example how do I make my system boot into runlevel 1 by default.
[03:20] <kieran> the bcm4306 and i have the driver and have used ndicwrapper Gui version to install it but it seems like im not getting any power to the card
[03:20] <salty> i have a linksys wpc11 ver4 but never use it
[03:20] <salty> yes zoot666
[03:20] <zoot666> thats for a labtop?
[03:20] <salty> yes
[03:20] <babyju> fwbuilder or firestarter for managing iptables?
[03:20] <zoot666> im on a deskto[
[03:21] <zoot666> what card do i use?
[03:21] <john__> Is there a popular free burning software for Ubuntu?
[03:21] <salty> anything with an atheros chip will work or a prism chip
[03:21] <xtknight> !wireless
[03:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:21] <kieran> yes it is
[03:22] <mattyv> babyju: shorewall, although firestarter is simpler
[03:22] <thak> does anyone know how to change the desktop environment in ltsp (from xfce to enlightenment, for example)?
[03:22] <mattyv> john__: K3B, gnomebaker
[03:22] <Stormx2> Hey everyone. Need some advice on an installation! I've downloaded, verified, burnt (then verified) xubuntu version 6.10. The CD boots fine on this machine, but another, it won't boot. The boot order is correct. The BIOS says "Checking for boot record on cd.." for a few seconds then boots from the hard drive. I know the CD is bootable (it is on this machine), but it won't boot on the other. Any suggestions?
[03:22] <crimsun_> sanityx: linux single
[03:22] <sanityx> crimsun, ?
[03:22] <john__> thanks mattyv
[03:22] <Stormx2> Oh, and I tried with ubuntu dapper drake, shipit CDs.
[03:23] <crimsun_> sanityx: at the boot prompt. If you want the equivalent of inittab(5), see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/72058
[03:23] <salty> is th bios set to boot from cd?
[03:23] <babyju> thanks for your opinion mattyv
[03:23] <sanityx> crimsun, yes but how do I change the DEFAULT runlevel.
[03:23] <crimsun_> sanityx: again, see the bug report.
[03:23] <sanityx> ok
[03:23] <mattyv> john__: no probs, gnomebaker fits more nicely with gnome, but K3B is a very nice app
[03:23] <hateyla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10832/    problem with checking all file system on system boot. if anyone can solve i really thanksfull to him
[03:24] <john__> I have Ubuntu though.
[03:24] <Stormx2> john__: it doesn't matter.
[03:24] <thak> stormx: if the bios is set correctly, you might also try forcing the cd drive to be the primary master (no cable select)
[03:24] <john__> Oh,
[03:24] <mattyv> babyju: for the record, I haven't used fwbuilder so I don't have an opinion on it
[03:24] <Stormx2> thak: Fiddle with the jumper?
[03:25] <Netham45> YAY!
[03:25] <Netham45> now connected through a WEP Enabled WIFI router VIA ndiswrapper!
[03:25] <thak> storm: yes.  and see if it'll boot if it's the only drive in the system (and primary master).  i've seen some older machines wig out when booting from cds
[03:25] <Netham45> w00t
[03:25] <thak> netham: congrats!
[03:26] <zoot666> vdoes anyone use a pci wifi card for linux?
[03:26] <Stormx2> thak: I don't know what the configuration is at the moment. The machine has been a firewall for years, running windows 2000. I know next to nothing about the hardware. The boot order when i first got hold of it was CD ROM, HDD.
[03:26] <xtknight> hateyla: i saw the same problem the other way, although all the information i could find said to ignore the problem
[03:27] <Stormx2> thak: So what exactly do I do? CD ROM becomes primary master, HDD stays as it is?
[03:27] <xtknight> hateyla: it does not appear to be a serious problem
[03:27] <Flare183> ok
[03:27] <Stormx2> thak: unless the HDD is primary master, then it becomes.... ?
[03:27] <thak> storm:  depends on what the...yeah.  you figured it out.  ;-)
[03:27] <thak> storm:  i'd put them on two separate cables, that way, you're guaranteed to not have any issues.
[03:27] <popetmaster> / server www.irc.cl
[03:28] <Stormx2> thak: Primary Slave? Secondary master? I'm not used to fiddling with this...
[03:28] <hateyla> xtknight:  i ignore it.. but at that particuler time my HD reading alot.. and system going too slow..
[03:28] <thak> lol
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[03:28] <zoot666> are the IBM r40 thinkpads fully supported?
[03:28] <Flare183> now i have a problem i have aiglx working but this i what i get when i type in glxinfohttp://pastebin.ca/399578
[03:28] <Stormx2> (^.^)
[03:28] <Flare183> now i have a problem i have aiglx working but this i what i get when i type in glxinfohttp://pastebin.ca/399578
[03:28] <Flare183> now i have a problem i have aiglx working but this i what i get when i type in glxinfo
[03:28] <salty> ide0 hdd primary master... ide1 cd primary master
[03:28] <xtknight> !repeat | Flare183
[03:28] <ubotu> Flare183: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:28] <Flare183> http://pastebin.ca/399578
[03:28] <Flare183> sorry
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> zoot666: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[03:28] <zoot666> are the IBM r40 thinkpads fully supported?
[03:28] <Flare183> sorry
[03:28] <Stormx2> Flare183: Stop right now.
[03:28] <sirwilliam> hello all...how can i get my Broadcom BCM4318 wireless working?
[03:28] <xtknight> hateyla: it is doing a file system check, meaning it is checking your hard disk.  even if you did not have the FSINFO error, it would still have to check the disk
[03:29] <thak> storm: you have primary and secondary ide channels in most (ide-based) machines.  each channel has a master/slave
[03:29] <Flare183> sirwilliams with my script
[03:29] <sirwilliam> i have tried bcm43xx-fwcutter or whatever....and running that script, but it apparently doesn't work
[03:29] <vox754> sirwilliam, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[03:29] <Fagnuttius> i'm feelin bom bom diggy DCC SEND "JEWS_DID_WTC" right
[03:29] <sirwilliam> sweet...thanks
[03:29] <xtknight> sirwilliam: i can give you a few pointers.  the kernel has a module called bcm43xx which supports some of the 43xx series.  you might have to extract "firmware" out of a windows driver for it, using a program called fwcutter
[03:29] <Netham45> o.o
[03:29] <xtknight> !ops
[03:29] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[03:29] <Flare183> what is your e-mail
[03:29] <Netham45> netsplit....
[03:29] <sirwilliam> xtknight:  i have used this script
[03:29] <bruenig> Netham45, DCC
[03:29] <Netham45> ?
[03:30] <Fagnuttius> bom bom jiggy DCC SEND "JEWS_DID_WTC" right
[03:30] <hateyla> xtknight:  just problem with the FAT partition .. i have 2 ext3 And 1 NTFS nothing problem with them.. just problem with FAT
[03:30] <Netham45> bruenig: what?
[03:30] <bruenig> Netham45, it wasn't a netsplit, it is Fangnuttius
[03:30] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> what is your e-mail address and I will send it to you?
[03:30] <Netham45> ?
[03:30] <thak> storm: so if you set the jumper on the cd drive to 'master' and plug it into the 'primary' channel, that's "primary master"
[03:30] <Stormx2> thak: Ah, I see! In the bios, hdd is on primary master, cdrom is on secondary master. Could you confirm to me what the jumpers need to be set to? >__< I'm quite inexperienced at this.
[03:30] <xtknight> Netham45: it was some ddc exploit
[03:30] <vox754> sirwilliam, according to that page your specific chipset 4318 is unstable so you may need to use ndiswrapper.
[03:30] <Stormx2> Ah, okay
[03:30] <Stormx2> Thanks thak!
[03:31] <thak> storm: then you can leave the jumper on the hard drive however it was and plug it into the secondary controller.
[03:31] <Stormx2> thak: How will I know which is the primary channel? xD
[03:31] <sirwilliam> vox754:  sounds lame...is ndiswrapper easy?
[03:31] <Netham45> sirwilliam: nope
[03:31] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> exactly no
[03:31] <Netham45> took me a week, but Im finally runing on it.
[03:31] <thak> storm:  lol.  you've got to read the (tiny) writing on the motherboard.  ;-)
[03:31] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> that's why i made a script to get over it all
[03:31] <thak> storm: your bios should also give you some indications on what's installed where when you boot up
[03:32] <vox754> sirwilliam, pretty easy actually. Although I'm not sure if you need to use fwcutter to get the drivers.
[03:32] <Flare183> I need some help to through: with AIGLX
[03:32] <xtknight> hateyla: yeah, i know.  it can only happen on FAT partitions.  for now you will just have to ignore the problem.  if you really want to try fixing it you can try running "sudo fsck.vfat /fat/device"
[03:32] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  where's this script?  fwcutter is yours?
[03:32] <Flare183> fwcutter (I know) won't cut it
[03:32] <Flare183> no
[03:32] <Netham45> sirwilliam: ndiswrapper lets you use your windows drivers for it in linux
[03:33] <hateyla> want to ask one more thing.. can i boot my system through USB?
[03:33] <xtknight> i've used fwcutter with success
[03:33] <sirwilliam> i'd rather it be native if possible
[03:33] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> what is your e-mail?
[03:33] <xtknight> in tandem with the kernel module
[03:33] <xtknight> hateyla: like, boot off a usb drive?
[03:33] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> and i will send it to you
[03:33] <Jaguar> fwcutter worked for me as well -  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[03:33] <xtknight> hateyla: i think that may be possible.  i got SUSE Linux on a USB hard drive one time.  i'm not sure if ubuntu can install to USB hard drives, though.
[03:33] <sirwilliam> Flare183: jvitosky a t gmail d o t com
[03:33] <Flare183> fwcutter didn't for me so
[03:34] <bruenig> xtknight, it can I saw it on digg
[03:34] <salty> yes ubuntu is bootable from usb drive
[03:34] <xtknight> Flare183: why isn't the script publicly available ?
[03:35] <Flare183> xtknight:> no i made it
[03:35] <ubuntu610> hola
[03:35] <Netham45> does EDGY support dual-screen?
[03:35] <xtknight> Netham45: yes
[03:35] <hateyla> salty: can i ask how ? how can i boot from USB?
[03:35] <bruenig> !xinerama
[03:35] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[03:35] <Netham45> ooh
[03:35] <Netham45> !DualHead
[03:35] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:35] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  you could pastebin it
[03:36] <xtknight> you can also have the screens independent
[03:36] <sirwilliam> whatever
[03:36] <Flare183> yeh
[03:36] <tjl30> what is it called what a rar file is split up into a bunch of smaller files?
[03:36] <xtknight> tjl30: spanning
[03:36] <vox754> I've read that the only special thing you need to boot from USB is that your BIOS supports it, that is it must be a recent BIOS.
[03:36] <salty> boot up live cd and locate the usb drive name and then install to that drive...then change the location in grub
[03:36] <Flare183> http://pastebin.ca/399587
[03:36] <ubuntu610> cuando va estar ubuntu feisty?
[03:36] <Flare183> there you go
[03:36] <bruenig> !es
[03:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:37] <Flare183> part of it
[03:37] <vox754> !feisty
[03:37] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:37] <hateyla> salty:  tx
[03:37] <salty> yw
[03:38] <Hyper-cool> does ubuntu not install gstreamer by default? all my apps are complaining that they don't have the right gstreamer plugins to play mp3's or movies
[03:38] <Jaguar> Out of pure curiousity, is there a rhyme or reason to Ubuntu release names (like how Debian releases were named after Toy Story characters)?
[03:38] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> ok check your e-mail
[03:38] <bruenig> Hyper-cool, it does not, you need to install it
[03:38] <xtknight> Jaguar: well all of them are related to animals afaik
[03:38] <bruenig> !quicktime | Hyper-cool
[03:38] <ubotu> Hyper-cool: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:38] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>should be there in a minute or two
[03:38] <hateyla> is there any option name " gdm setup " ?
[03:38] <xtknight> hateyla: are you talking about the "gdmsetup" command?
[03:39] <hateyla> xtknight:  want to change login screen.
[03:39] <fnf> hateyla: gdmsetup
[03:39] <salty> not all gstreamer plugins are loaded by default
[03:39] <xtknight> hateyla: yes that is what you want
[03:39] <vox754> Flare183, you mean you are not using the native driver but a different setup using ndiswrapper?
[03:40] <Flare183> no because this version is modified esp. for the broadcom wireless card
[03:40] <cleric> for some reason on my laptop (toshiba satellite a105-s2051 uses ati chipset w/ celeron m) in ubuntu only ... my usb mice stop working
[03:40] <cleric> like after a few mins
[03:41] <fnf> cleric: is there anything in syslog ?
[03:41] <Netham45> hmm
[03:41] <Netham45> did I loose connection?
[03:41] <sirwilliam> nope
[03:41] <salty> nope
[03:41] <Netham45> nope
[03:41] <Netham45> just got a major lag
[03:41] <xtknight> :P
[03:41] <Flare183> nope
[03:41] <salty> lol
[03:41] <Flare183> figure
[03:41] <Goldfire> installing ubuntu seems difficult.... does a remote connection should help me ?
[03:42] <kingcobra_> nope
[03:42] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  so the ndiswrapper in the repos is no good for me?
[03:42] <Flare183> depends on the kernel
[03:42] <Netham45> sirwilliam: you want to get 1.38(latest) most likely.
[03:42] <Flare183> but just go with mine.
[03:42] <sirwilliam> hmm....
[03:42] <vox754> sirwilliam, actually, it seems that is better to get the latest as other people suggest.
[03:42] <sirwilliam> can i trust you Flare?
[03:42] <Flare183> try that if you can't get it stop it
[03:42] <cleric> there are some IRQ INTR_SF lossage errors
[03:43] <blanky> jrib: you there, how can I delete ln -s's
[03:43] <jrib> blanky: rm
[03:43] <cleric> fnf: but after i unplug the mouse cause it stops, it doesn't get detected again ... and noacpi isn't an option cause then nowireless :(
[03:43] <sirwilliam> flare183:  what version is your ndiswraper?
[03:43] <blanky> jrib: example? please? :(
[03:43] <vox754> cleric, sorry, no experience with that
[03:43] <balzac> my ubuntu won't upgrade because of some package problem
[03:43] <kingcobra_> is there a gui for mounting partitions
[03:43] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>the one i am using now?
[03:44] <salty> rm -v <wheteveryouareremoving>
[03:44] <xtknight> kingcobra_: in dapper there was some disk manager.  i dont know about edgy
[03:44] <AzMoo> How can I remove packages that are no longer required?
[03:44] <balzac> salty, do you think i can strip out some packages and thereby regain my ability to upgrade?
[03:44] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>1.8-0ubuntu2
[03:44] <xtknight> AzMoo: sudo apt-get remove pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 pkg4 pkgN
[03:44] <cleric> vox754: never seen anything like this before myself ... none of my other systems do this, nor does this laptop do this in any distro other than ubuntu ... including debian
[03:44] <vox754> kingcobra_, there was in 6.06 and they removed it. It is not hard to mount them, and this is stuff an administrator should do, so the terminal is actually a good way to do it.
[03:45] <kingcobra_> :)
[03:45] <salty> you should still be able tto upgrade
[03:45] <Flare183> did you get that?
[03:45] <kingcobra_> vox754, why shud administrators hav to use the terminal only
[03:46] <xtknight> i like Windows xp's computer management/disk management page actually
[03:46] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  yes
[03:46] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>did it work?
[03:46] <balzac> i wish i were in charge of designing interfaces for open-source projects
[03:46] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>it does require sudo
[03:46] <kieran> i have tried the steps prescribed in the wifidocs for the trouble with my wireless card, but to avail, any more help? i did a iwconfig command and eth1 does recognise my card.
[03:47] <vox754> kingcobra_, because they are smart. You need to perform a lot of stuff without GUI in some computers that lack any X server
[03:47] <voltagex> why would I not be getting any cron logs at all?
[03:47] <Jaguar> vox754: I wouldn't say smart... proficient is a better word :P.
[03:47] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  gimme one sec...i'll tell ya in a few
[03:47] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>ok
[03:47] <vox754> xtknight, where is that disk management?
[03:47] <russell190> hi every1
[03:47] <balzac> voltagex,  you didn't make the proper sacrifice to the cron gods
[03:47] <vox754> Jaguar, okay. I agree.
[03:48] <xtknight> vox754: i was talking about XP.  in XP it's control panel->administrative tools->computer management->Disk management on left treeview
[03:48] <balzac> sorry for the useless smartass answer.
[03:48] <voltagex> balzac: that's not helpful, I"m currently being laughed at for my choice of distro in #linux
[03:48] <Jaguar> vox754: But I do agree if you, sometimes it's just easier to do something via command line, if, of course, you know how.
[03:48] <balzac> what, ubuntu?
[03:48] <russell190> ppl, i need your help. Please dont get angry at me. I need people to come to irc.wii-battle.com . We are trying to get it more active, so people plz type /server -m irc.wii-battle.com
[03:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> what is a good a program to burn cds for gnome?
[03:49] <vox754> xtknight, yeah, I know you were talking about XP. I wanted to try that one. What is so special about it?
[03:49] <Pelo> btf  gnomebaker
[03:49] <bruenig> !burn
[03:49] <voltagex> balzac: yes
[03:49] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty
[03:49] <balzac> shit, my ubuntu upgraded successfully
[03:49] <kingcobra_> vox754, can you please tel me how to mount a partition using terminal then
[03:49] <xtknight> vox754: not really that special, i just find it a convenient GUI for managing HDs/partitions and i think that Ubuntu should have an equivalent
[03:49] <balzac> good deal
[03:49] <xtknight> !language | balzac
[03:49] <ubotu> balzac: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:49] <balzac> merde
[03:49] <bruenig> kingcobra_, sudo mount -t <filesystem> /dev/<name> /mount/point
[03:49] <mEck0> is there a vizulations plugin for Rhythmbox?
[03:50] <vox754> kingcobra_, okay, enter my realm #vocx
[03:50] <Airforce5555> I need a fl studio type program for linux!!!!!!!
[03:50] <russell190> ppl, i need your help. Please dont get angry at me. I need people to come to irc.wii-battle.com . We are trying to get it more active, so people plz type /server -m irc.wii-battle.com
[03:50] <bruenig> !ops | russell190
[03:50] <ubotu> russell190: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[03:50] <adcurtin> I am having some trouble with a usb key: it has two partitions, a cdfs one (read only) and a normal one.  I don't care about the size, the cdfs partition is only 2MB, but it is read only and has autosvr (which is flagged as a virus) and autoruns that (I don't know why it's there, that is how it came, it was a freebie from Cisco). I would like to wipe out the whole key and just have it be one partition. how would I do this?
[03:50] <xtknight> Airforce5555: fruity loops?
[03:50] <Airforce5555> I need a fl studio type program for linux!!!!!!!
[03:50] <Airforce5555> yep
[03:50] <kieran> anyone in for a challenge with the problem that i have?
[03:50] <balzac> voltagex, i would ask the distro of the people laughing at your distro
[03:50] <xtknight> Airforce5555: there are a couple.  sadly the names escape me at the moment, but just know that there are some out there ;)
[03:50] <Airforce5555> ive tried rosegarden but the midi output didnt work
[03:50] <xtknight> !ask | kieran
[03:50] <ubotu> kieran: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:51] <Pelo> kieran,  we don't play guess the problem here,  if you have one , state it
[03:51] <rEvolution27> hey, I just installed compiz and when I start it, I get windows with no borders
[03:51] <xtknight> Airforce5555: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/11/28/linux-music-lmms-linuxs-own-fruity-loops/
[03:51] <kieran> going and reading the wifidocs did help but im not any further with my wireless card issue
[03:51] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  stuck at "DHCPACK from 10.112.37.1
[03:51] <sirwilliam> bound to 24.117.153.8 -- renewal in 38200 seconds."
[03:51] <bruenig> !compiz | rEvolution27 #ubuntu-effects
[03:51] <ubotu> rEvolution27 #ubuntu-effects: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:51] <Airforce5555> k thanks
[03:52] <Pelo> rEvolution27,  change the theme, don't ask me how, try in #compiz
[03:52] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>then it worked
[03:52] <SurfnKid> hi guys
[03:52] <Flare183> close the termainl
[03:52] <sirwilliam> and restart nm-applet??
[03:52] <cleric> to any who care about the usb HID devices "crashing" ... - noapic irqpoll pci=routeirq is what's needed :)
[03:52] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>yes
[03:52] <Netham45> whoa
[03:52] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  i can disconnect ethernet??
[03:52] <Netham45> x just restarted.
[03:52] <Flare183> yes
[03:52] <SurfnKid> can anyone help me figure out why sometimes when I initiate any program in the Administration section, the window doesnt fully initiate. or it takes a few minutes
[03:52] <sirwilliam> alright, bbiaf
[03:52] <kieran> i did a iwconfig command and it does recognise my card but there is no signal and subsequently no power going to the card
[03:53] <kingcobra_> bruenig, thanx
[03:53] <Netham45> kieran try iwconfig --help
[03:53] <Netham45> There is a power level option
[03:53] <kieran> i will thanks
[03:53] <Pelo> SurfnKid,  what program ?
[03:53] <Netham45> (but I forgot the paramaters)
[03:53] <xtknight> Airforce5555: lmms is available in the repositories
[03:53] <xtknight> !info lmms | Airforce5555
[03:53] <ubotu> airforce5555: lmms: Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 1543 kB, installed size 3784 kB
[03:53] <john__> Does Ubuntu have a "Restore Point" feature?
[03:53] <bruenig> !backup | john__, no
[03:54] <Airforce5555> ill just sudo apt-get install lmms
[03:54] <ubotu> john__, no: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:54] <Pelo> john__,  I don't think so , but the install takes only 30 minutes so ...
[03:54] <levander> Where can I look up Ubuntu's release schedule?
[03:54] <bruenig> !feisty | levander
[03:54] <ubotu> levander: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:55] <john__> Well, I wanna do some messin around with, but wanna make sure I can go back to a point, hehe
[03:55] <Dracula}X{> anyone here really familiar with wine?
[03:55] <xtknight> Dracula}X{: #winehq maybe
[03:55] <bruenig> Dracula}X{, relatively, throw out the question
[03:55] <Pelo> Dracula}X{,   #winehq
[03:55] <bruenig> john__, you can't unless you want to backup
[03:55] <bruenig> john__, or just keep track of what you are doing and make sure you know how to undo it before you do it
[03:56] <Dracula}X{> ok, so this prolly has come up, but I am trying to install WoW using wine, I am not using the CD's I am using the full installer from blizzard, half way or more through the install it errors out
[03:56] <xtknight> john__: like messing with what?
[03:56] <bruenig> !wow
[03:56] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:56] <balzac> hello again
[03:56] <voltagex> games, ubuntu? *cough*
[03:56] <john__> Well I wanna put NTFS-3G or whatever on here
[03:56] <balzac> how do i test the version of my ubuntu?
[03:56] <salty> wb balzac
[03:56] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g
[03:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:56] <john__> But since Im new to Ubuntu, I might mess something up
[03:56] <balzac> thanks salty
[03:56] <john__> STFU ubotu :(
[03:56] <Jaguar> There were really that many WoW questions for ubotu to get a factiod? I'm impressed.
[03:56] <Pelo> john__,  you can make your home folder on a seperate partition,  this would enable you to reinstall from scratch without loosing your parameters and data
[03:56] <guideX> so is ubuntu winning over vista?
[03:56] <john__> Hrm..
[03:57] <guideX> as far as desktop users go
[03:57] <Pelo> john__,  ubotu  is a bot
[03:57] <kawaiitentaclebe> hm
[03:57] <bruenig> guideX, no
[03:57] <john__> Oh, hehe
[03:57] <kawaiitentaclebe> so
[03:57] <Jaguar> !ubotu
[03:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:57] <adcurtin> How can I repartition a usb stick from terminal
[03:57] <Pelo> guideX,  vista is loosing to XP ,
[03:57] <guideX> ahh
[03:57] <bruenig> you can partition usb sticks?
[03:57] <john__> I shall try your method Pelo
[03:57] <xtknight> yup
[03:57] <salty> ok...good nite all
[03:57] <mobiGeek> ubotu: php5 segfault
[03:57] <ubotu> php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[03:57] <blanky> can someone help me in #ubuntu-server? no one seems to be awake in there
[03:57] <kawaiitentaclebe> so
[03:58] <xtknight> adcurtin: fdisk or cfdisk  i suppose, if you must do it from the terminal.  there is also 'parted'
[03:58] <kieran> netham45, is the power management level "iwconfig power" ?
[03:58] <kawaiitentaclebe> I can't boot from hdd
[03:58] <mobiGeek> ubotu: segfault
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about segfault - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <blanky> I installed php5 and when I view my site it doesn't read php files, it just shows them as textfiles
[03:58] <bruenig> !fishing | mobiGeek
[03:58] <blanky> I already restarted my server, nothing
[03:58] <ubotu> mobiGeek: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:58] <kawaiitentaclebe> GRUBHard DIsk Error
[03:58] <mobiGeek> bruenig: thanks
[03:58] <kawaiitentaclebe> what does that mean?
[03:58] <guideX> anyone know of operating system useage comparisons or percentages?
[03:59] <Darkkish> what is the diff between ubuntu and debian?
[03:59] <guideX> how many % wise are using what
[03:59] <Pelo> kawaiitentaclebe,  I think that grub can't find your boot partition , might want to go and ask in #grub
[03:59] <Netham45> x.x
[03:59] <Netham45> stupid wifi
[03:59] <guideX> Darkkish ubuntu is based on debian
[03:59] <balzac> ok, my ubuntu did not upgrade
[03:59] <xtknight> guideX: maybe look on google's statistics.
[03:59] <kawaiitentaclebe> hm
[03:59] <kawaiitentaclebe> ok
[03:59] <balzac> it seemed like it had succeeded but it did not
[03:59] <Sugr> Has anyone used Splunk for managing log files?
[03:59] <Netham45> it wouldn't be nearly as bad if I wasn't so far away from the damn router...
[03:59] <Darkkish> then why shouldn't i just get debian with gnome?
[03:59] <bruenig> guideX, breakdown for you here: windows 95% mac: 3.5 % linux: 1.5%, approximations
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Netham45
[03:59] <ubotu> Netham45: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:59] <Pelo> Darkkish,  ubuntu is a fork of debian , intended to be more user friendly and noob freindly
[03:59] <balzac> i added a couple shady reposititories, i suppose
[03:59] <Netham45> oh
[03:59] <Netham45> yea
[03:59] <mattyv> Darkkish: More manual configuration
[04:00] <Netham45> this server doesn't have server censors.
[04:00] <balzac> what log can i consult to see what is blocking my upgrade?
[04:00] <mattyv> Darkkish: in debian that is
[04:00] <guideX> Darkkish ubuntu is easier to install with a larger device database (i think? (i'm noob to ubuntu too))
[04:00] <Pelo> Darkkish,  by all means if you want debian go for it
[04:00] <guideX> debian is cool too.. i've tried them both, i prefer ubuntu though.. although they're very similar
[04:00] <Jaguar> Darkkish: Ubuntu is geared towards a more user-oriented type of OS, meaning more packages that you might use as a normal user will be updated more often, and I personally find the community far more helpful towards new users.
[04:00] <Darkkish> Pelo no, actually i already have xubuntu on my lappy and kubuntu on my desktop,
[04:00] <Darkkish> i was asking for someone else
[04:01] <Darkkish> trying to get an opinon
[04:01] <Darkkish> opinion
[04:01] <SurfnKid> Ubuntu
[04:01] <SurfnKid> period
[04:01] <bruenig> gtnoo
[04:01] <Darkkish> i said ubuntu, someone else said debian.
[04:01] <bruenig> gentoo
[04:01] <balzac> somebody help me
[04:01] <balzac> my ubuntu won't upgrade
[04:01] <guideX> debian sarge when i tried it was cool... it wasn't as user friendly though
[04:01] <Darkkish> anyways, second question
[04:01] <SurfnKid> but if you like to go deep debian/gentoo
[04:01] <balzac> what log can i consult to see what is blocking my upgrade?
[04:01] <bruenig> freebsd
[04:01] <eck> Darkkish: you might want to ask #debian for their thoughts
[04:01] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>well got to go
[04:01] <voltagex> Jaguar: more user friendly but not hardware friendly, I can't even get my TV card to work in it
[04:01] <Flare183> bye
[04:01] <Darkkish> meh
[04:01] <Sugr> Has anyone had any experiances with Splunk? http://www.splunk.com/products/218
[04:01] <guideX> anyone here tried feisty, is it much different
[04:01] <bruenig> !tvout | voltagex
[04:01] <ubotu> voltagex: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[04:01] <Darkkish> his install is hanging on 83%
[04:02] <SurfnKid> guideX: i have not, im still on edgy
[04:02] <voltagex> eck: wow, that's a way to start a flamewar
[04:02] <guideX> me too
[04:02] <kieran> how do i manage the power on my wireless card?
[04:02] <SurfnKid> is Fiesty final?
[04:02] <voltagex> bruenig: no, not tv-out, DVB
[04:02] <Pelo> Darkkish,  ubuntu is the flavor of the month, it's a great intro into the linux world for windows user,  all distros have their strong points,  except for Suse which is a sell out
[04:02] <bruenig> SurfnKid, no
[04:02] <guideX> no
[04:02] <balzac> maybe i should start my own distro
[04:02] <Netham45> guideX: is it stable at all?
[04:02] <balzac> i'll call it ballzbuntu
[04:02] <SurfnKid> bruenig: cool, not that i wanna go to it, but im having some weird issues on Edgy
[04:02] <guideX> i do not know i have not tried it.. i am too wondering if i should but i asume it's not too different
[04:02] <cables> SuSe itself isn't so bad, Novell, who makes it, is.
[04:03] <mattyv> Darkkish: Try booting with noapic nolapic at boot prompt. F6, go along to the end of the line and add those, then press enter
[04:03] <bruenig> suse was bad for me
[04:03] <guideX> hey wait, don't tell me the linux flavor of the month changes from month to month?
[04:03] <voltagex> balzac: I don't even want to think about the default desktop background on that one
[04:03] <eck> voltagex: as opposed to going on #ubuntu and asking why you shouldn't just use debian?
[04:03] <SurfnKid> guideX: ubuntu i thinkn every 6 mo
[04:03] <Jaguar> I use Debian on one of my servers, I like it for its stability (at least stable build, though it does lag behind in updates because of all the testing).
[04:03] <voltagex> eck: true
[04:03] <voltagex> eck: either way ot
[04:03] <balzac> hey, i know why dell won't put linux on their machines
[04:03] <SurfnKid> Jaguar: thats why i went with ubuntu cuz its based on debian
[04:03] <voltagex> eck: either way it's a flamewar eventually
[04:04] <balzac> dell doesn't want their brand associated with linux at this point
[04:04] <SurfnKid> balzac: y?
[04:04] <Pelo> guideX,   it's a figure of speach, but there is a new distro ( or at least a new release of a distro) about every month
[04:04] <RocketRay> ummm anyone know where I can find a list of packe=age requirements for quicktime ?
[04:04] <Jaguar> SurfnKid: Same here, I like aptitude a lot.
[04:04] <SurfnKid> balzac: yea not yet
[04:04] <naknomik> I need to buy a Wireless PC Card for my laptop, are there some cards that are known to work well with ubuntu?
[04:04] <balzac> you know what needs to happen?
[04:04] <mobiGeek> is anyone here successfully running apache2 and php5 ubuntu-server ?
[04:04] <bruenig> balzac, what do you want, the suggestion thing is what 3 weeks old. How fast do you think they move
[04:04] <SurfnKid> i gotta get a littlre more into aptitude
[04:04] <DWRZ> Hello. I mounted a partition I made in windows, in fstab I have this /dev/hda4 /media/hda4 vfat users,rw 0 0. But for some reason I do not have permissions to read-write on the partition...any place I can find good documentation on how to mount a partition?
[04:04] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: i am
[04:04] <SurfnKid> cuz i'll eventually overdose on CLI
[04:04] <SurfnKid> so i bettter learn it
[04:04] <Netham45> naknomik: I am on a Belkin F51070(or something) that I got to work
[04:04] <Sugr> mobiGeek: Yes, with eaccelerator too :)
[04:04] <Netham45> it's a PCMCIA card
[04:04] <mobiGeek> I'm getting a segfault from apache when I enable the php5 mod and try to start it up
[04:04] <Pelo> !restricted | RocketRay  this will let you play qucktime files
[04:04] <ubotu> RocketRay  this will let you play qucktime files: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:05] <pisedoffcrack> anyone know where to get bios for ubuntus psx emulator?
[04:05] <SurfnKid> !mountt
[04:05] <SurfnKid> !mount
[04:05] <Netham45> http://www.google.com
[04:05] <Darkkish> mattyv isn't F6 for raid and sata? there are no sata or raid drivers
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <DWRZ> ?
[04:05] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: is everything up to date? what version of php/apache are you running
[04:05] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:05] <Darkkish> mattyv drives*
[04:05] <balzac> linux has some issues to deal with before it will be embraced by vendors of home computers
[04:05] <SurfnKid> !DiskMounter -> DWRZ
[04:05] <bruenig> DWRZ, /dev/hda4 /media/hd4 vfat user,auto.fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:05] <DWRZ> ok thanks
[04:05] <voltagex> pisedoffcrack: that's not a question you can ask here
[04:05] <balzac> it's internal political differences which may require arbitration
[04:05] <RocketRay> thank You
[04:05] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: what's the quickest cmd I can run to get versions for php and apache?
[04:05] <DWRZ> thanks!
[04:05] <SurfnKid> np
[04:06] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: (sorry, I'm coming from a Fedora/RH background)
[04:06] <mattyv> Darkkish: Umm, I'll try to be a bit clearer. Once the cd has gotten to the screen where you can select Boot/Install, Safe graphics mode etc. That's where you press F6
[04:06] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: php -v and apache2 --version or something around that
[04:06] <kieran> does anyone know how to set the power of a bcm4306 pcmcia wireless card?
[04:06] <lordhelmet> apache2 -v
[04:06] <sirwilliam_> Flame183:  wired connection only!
[04:06] <DWRZ> I keep getting "/media/hda4...ycled/info2" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder.
[04:06] <balzac> sometimes it's bad when communities compete instead of cooperate
[04:06] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: ah, okay...i thought it would be an "apt" or "dpkg" cmd
[04:06] <bruenig> DWRZ, change the fstab and remount it
[04:07] <Sugr> Has anyone had any experiances with Splunk? http://www.splunk.com/products/218 need to know if Its worth using it
[04:07] <Pelo> kieran,  try looking up the make and model in the forum you might find answers there
[04:07] <Darkkish> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12355-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=31199&messageID=579806&start=43
[04:07] <balzac> sometimes there's too many redundant alternatives all fighting for mind-share, creating uncertainty
[04:07] <Sugr> Or are any better packages available
[04:07] <DWRZ> I did change the fstab, let me try unmount and remounting though.
[04:07] <Netham45> ooh
[04:07] <Netham45> kbuntu appears to support 2 monitors out of the box
[04:07] <balzac> if two groups could be convinced to merge in certian cases, it might be better
[04:07] <sirwilliam_> wow....Flame183 isn't hear anymore??
[04:07] <DWRZ> huh. I am getting: "mount: mount point /media/hd4 does not exist"
[04:07] <guideX> so anyone have experience installing beryl with a nvidia gforce 440 under ubuntu?
[04:07] <Pelo> DWRZ,  caps count
[04:08] <tesla> Can anyone please recommand some simple and fun games on ubuntu?
[04:08] <kieran> pelo, i have all the drivers setup but there doesn't seem to have any power to it, is that a problem with the card?
[04:08] <DWRZ> wait...typo maybe X)
[04:08] <bruenig> tesla, frozen-bubble, supertux
[04:08] <lordhelmet> Sugr: what's this accelerator??
[04:08] <Netham45> tesla: well, I like playing half-life on it.
[04:08] <Netham45> but that's not 'simple'
[04:08] <Pelo> kieran,  no idea,  that's why I was directing you to the forum
[04:08] <Netham45> nor is it 'easy' to install.
[04:08] <bruenig> I like to play N
[04:08] <bruenig> but that install is a little different
[04:08] <Sugr> lordhelmet: No, it's a log manager, just wondering if anyone used it before, and suggest it or can suggest using something else
[04:08] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: php 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.6  and apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1
[04:08] <kieran> pelo, thanks
[04:09] <sirwilliam_> anybody know how to get broadcom bc4318 working??
[04:09] <tesla> OK, thanks for the suggetion, I'll try it!
[04:09] <Pelo> Netham45,  menu > applications > add /remove,  there is a list of games in there
[04:09] <guideX> is there a great space sim for linux on the line of: freelancer, freespace 2, descent 1/2/3?
[04:09] <DWRZ> OK. Typo fixed, and it mounts the drive, but I still don't have permission to edit folders!
[04:09] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: (I used:   dpkg -l | egrep "(apache2|php5)"   )
[04:09] <Netham45> pelo: why was that directed at me?
[04:09] <DWRZ> edit/create/etc.
[04:09] <mattyv> I'm rather sure that zdnet post was deliberate, sarcasm
[04:09] <DWRZ> read-write :P
[04:09] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: have you configured a bunch of stuff or can you aptitude purge apache and php related things and get a fresh start?
[04:10] <Pelo> Netham45,  is had your name in front of it, so yes
[04:10] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I can certainly undo/redo.
[04:10] <balzac> pastebin
[04:10] <Netham45> pelo: ***why*** was that directed at me?
[04:10] <balzac> !pastebin
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:10] <CaptainMorgan> I am about to apply a driver for the UPS made by APC - the ES series... 550va, from a third hit off google for Edgy. It wasn't official, so I am asking here if anyone has done this or things this is a good idea?
[04:10] <Pelo> Netham45,  caused you asked about games ?
[04:10] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: so do I  "sudo aptitude purge apache2 php5"  ?
[04:11] <Netham45> pelo: nope, no I didn't. :)
[04:11] <Netham45> tesla asked that.
[04:11] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek only do that if you are just starting out and haven't configured a bunch of things. also are you running 6.06.1 or 6.10? make sure everything else is up to date as well with an 'aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade'
[04:11] <Pelo> Netham45,  sorry my mistake
[04:12] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: for all intents and purposes, I'm just starting out.
[04:12] <Netham45> will programs that run in GNOME run in KDE(such as Opera)?
[04:12] <balzac> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10846/
[04:12] <balzac> that's my error message
[04:12] <guideX> opera? why not use firefox?
[04:12] <Pelo> Netham45,  they will install the extra stuff they need to run so yes
[04:12] <balzac> Show me some ubuntu, guys!
[04:12] <eck> guideX: why question someone else's use of software?
[04:12] <sirwilliam_> anybody know how to get broadcom bc4318 working??
[04:12] <levander> Why does Ubuntu call beta CD's "Herds"? In the right hand column: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[04:13] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: apparently I'm already at 6.10
[04:13] <Netham45> guideX, I loathe Firefox.
[04:13] <guideX> just because opera isn't very compatible with all websites where firefox works for everything outside of microsofts activex controls
[04:13] <guideX> whys that
[04:13] <Netham45> -.-
[04:13] <Netham45> you do realize that firefox and opera are built on the same engine, right?
[04:13] <levander> I thought they were talking about GNU Hurd when I first saw that.
[04:13] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I believe it was right after I upgraded from 6.06.1 to 6.10 that I got this segfault (but I didn't notice that my website was down...  :-( )
[04:13] <guideX> i didn't!
[04:13] <eck> guideX: anyway, software advocacy is really quickly going to start a flamewar and be off topic
[04:13] <Pelo> balzac,   open up synaptic and reennable all the extra repos
[04:14] <trond> How do I remove a symbolic link? I went for binding the ftpdirectories in fstab instead.
[04:14] <balzac> ok
[04:14] <guideX> but when i use opera to view my website it comes up garbled
[04:14] <Pelo> trond,   delete it
[04:14] <Netham45> anyone know the size of KDE off of the top of their head?
[04:14] <guideX> but maybe it was an old version
[04:14] <mobiGeek> trond: rm <path_to_symlink>
[04:14] <kbrosnan> Netham45: wrong opera uses Presto, Firefo uses Gecko
[04:14] <Netham45> kbrosnan: both are built off of the netscape engine.
[04:14] <balzac> Pelo, including one repository i added myself?
[04:14] <kbrosnan> Netham45: no
[04:14] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: are you running 6.10 ?
[04:14] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: upgrades can do silly things some times. make sure everything got updated and try installing things from scratch
[04:15] <john__> They need to get like, better application installation support
[04:15] <lordhelmet> (apache and php that is)
[04:15] <PMantis> Does anyone know where usleep is? apt-cache can't find it... is there a replacment?
[04:15] <Netham45> hey
[04:15] <Netham45> I could just use internet explorer
[04:15] <john__> There's like 50 steps just to install NTFS-3g
[04:15] <DWRZ> Yeah. I reformatted the partition, then edited the fstab to /dev/hda4 /media/hda4 vfat user,auto.fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:15] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: so "purge" apache2 and php5 packages, then install again?
[04:15] <Pelo> balzac,  shouldn't make a difference to the update
[04:15] <mattyv> levander: I think the herd name is specific to the release, ie. with dapper drake thet were flight cd's. This time it's a herd of Fawn
[04:15] <kingcobra_> bruenig, sorry can tell me how u said to mount a partition again please
[04:15] <Netham45> I have it installed
[04:15] <guideX> i have ie installed too so i can read my hotmail :D
[04:15] <kbrosnan> Netham45: Opera is not based on Netscape code
[04:15] <balzac> ok, i re-enabled them all
[04:15] <DWRZ> it mounts but I still don't have permissions
[04:15] <guideX> but i only use it for that
[04:15] <DWRZ> any ideas?
[04:15] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: yeah
[04:15] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I just don't know what the cause of the segfault is.
[04:15] <balzac> now i re-attempt the upgrade...
[04:15] <Pelo> DWRZ,  sudo chmod  755  /media/...
[04:16] <aburrent> does Ubuntu 6.06LTS still support SMP?
[04:16] <guideX> kbrosnan isn't opera it's own code? not based off anything?
[04:16] <eck> aburrent: yes
[04:16] <Flannel> mobiGeek: you'll need to purge apache2-common to get any of the real config files gone
[04:16] <DWRZ> Pelo: that's secure?
[04:16] <james296> ok for some reason when I insert a audio CD, Banshee doesnt show any text at all in the track fields, yet at the top area with the description and everything, it shows the accurate track data
[04:16] <poningru> guideX: yes
[04:16] <james296> whats wrong here?
[04:16] <kbrosnan> guideX: correct
[04:16] <eck> aburrent: you need the server kernel, i think
[04:16] <balzac> maybe first i'll install the updates
[04:16] <aburrent> eck: do I have to do anything special to get that kernel?
[04:16] <balzac> then go for the upgrade
[04:16] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: you should make sure your packages are up to date. i'm running a newer version of apache and php i'm pretty sure and i'm using 6.10
[04:16] <poningru> kbrosnan: yarr
[04:16] <mobiGeek> Flannel: k, thanks
[04:16] <bruenig> kingcobra_, mount -t filesystem /dev/name /mount/point
[04:16] <Netham45> hmm
[04:16] <Flannel> aburrent, eck, no you don't.
[04:16] <Pelo> DWRZ,  it's just regular permission
[04:16] <eck> aburrent: um, check the output of uname -a
[04:16] <Netham45> where'd I misplace that cable.....
[04:16] <eck> aburrent: i don't know how many processors the desktop kernel has support compiled in for
[04:17] <aburrent> Linux 2.6.15-28-386
[04:17] <james296> is there certain plugins Im missing?
[04:17] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: what version of apache and php are you running?
[04:17] <james296> I JUST did a reinstall on Ubuntu
[04:17] <DWRZ> nothing. still no permissions. :(
[04:17] <balzac> you know what would be cool? if you had an error dialog which would automatically drop a report on paste bin and open up an irc client to #ubuntu
[04:17] <Flannel> aburrent: what processor do you have?  You'll probably want to change to 686 kernel.
[04:17] <aburrent> i have a dual athlon mp box...but for some reason...at some point in the updates...it switch me to a 386 kenerl
[04:17] <eck> Flannel: do you know how many processors the desktop kernel can do?
[04:17] <guideX> anyone have experience running visual studio 2005 under wine/ubuntu6.10
[04:17] <Flannel> aburrent: k7 is what you want then
[04:17] <eck> i'm just curious
[04:17] <rjones> anyone know much about grub?
[04:17] <Fujitsu> eck: I believe it is 8.
[04:18] <Flannel> !anyone | rjones
[04:18] <ubotu> rjones: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:18] <Pelo> balzac,  that would not be cool, the channel would get flooded
[04:18] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: php 5.1.6ubuntu2.3 and apache2 2.0.55ubuntu4
[04:18] <guideX> rjones what do you want to know
[04:18] <Pelo> rjones,  #grub
[04:18] <james296> well?
[04:18] <rjones> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2314746#post2314746 :)
[04:18] <aburrent> Flannel: so I should just select the kernel in the package manager?
[04:18] <balzac> Pelo, suppose there were a special channel for it?
[04:18] <rjones> sorry, first-time caller on this channel :)
[04:18] <Flannel> aburrent: yeah, linux-image-k7
[04:18] <aburrent> Flannel: thanks
[04:18] <Flannel> rjones: is this on feisty?
[04:18] <aburrent> eck: thanks
[04:18] <rjones> Flyep
[04:18] <Flannel> rjones: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support, thanks.
[04:18] <DWRZ> Pelo: I did it, but no permissions :(
[04:18] <Pelo> balzac,  no one would hangout in such a channel
[04:18] <rjones> ok, thanks
[04:19] <james296> I really need help
[04:19] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I run "aptitude upgrade apache2" and it comes back saying nothing to update.
[04:19] <balzac> true
[04:19] <Pelo> DWRZ,  what are you trying to do in that folder ?
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> james296: you actually reinstalled over that issue?
[04:19] <DWRZ> create a folder/copy a file
[04:19] <DWRZ> it says I do not have permissions to write
[04:19] <Pelo> DWRZ, 777
[04:19] <mobiGeek> I'm new to apt, so is there some newer repository or some other command I should be running to upgrade?
[04:19] <DWRZ> ok thanks
[04:19] <james296> haha, yeah, I did...couldnt figure it out and it was buggin the HECK out of me
[04:19] <Netham45> anyone here besides me program on calculators?
[04:19] <james296> but hey, it works now
[04:20] <Pyranix> good evening
[04:20] <Fujitsu> Netham45: What kind of calculators?
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> sounds like you're still having banshee issues
[04:20] <Netham45> Ti Graphing Calculators
[04:20] <Netham45> Im just wonderin
[04:20] <Netham45> g
[04:20] <Fujitsu> Netham45: I have done some in the past.
[04:20] <james296> no no, banshee opens after inserting a CD
[04:20] <Netham45> BASIC or ASM?
[04:20] <Flannel> Netham45: Yes.  But that's a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:20] <DWRZ> Pelo, nothing. It still says I can't write to it. Any idea where I can find a full FAQ on mounting a partition?
[04:20] <james296> NOW theres no text showing in Banshee
[04:20] <james296> lol
[04:20] <james296> for the tracks
[04:21] <Pelo> DWRZ,  man mount
[04:21] <Fujitsu> Netham45: Mostly BASIC, though a little ASM.
[04:21] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I'm new to apt, so is there some newer repository or some other command I should be running to upgrade?
[04:21] <Pelo> DWRZ,  or try the ubuntu wiki
[04:21] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: run 'aptitude update' to update aptitudes package list
[04:21] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: done that a few times.
[04:21] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: then  run 'aptitude dist-upgrade' to upgrade all installed packages to the latest ones
[04:21] <james296> how can I install the LATEST version of it on Edgy?
[04:22] <Netham45> do you have a .deb of the latest?
[04:22] <Pelo> james296,   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[04:22] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: done that, still comes back saying "0No packages will be installed, upgraded or removed"
[04:22] <DWRZ> google just gives me mounting windows ntfs :(
[04:22] <DWRZ> ok
[04:23] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: interesting...did you get through purge/reinstall and still no dice?
[04:23] <Pyranix> any ideas on how to fix nautilus? U ran an update awhile back and it hosed nautilus, so i upgraded it and now i cant even get a gui up.
[04:23] <kingcobra_> bruenig, thanx
[04:23] <Pyranix> i ran
[04:23] <Netham45> hmm
[04:23] <Netham45> wtf
[04:23] <Netham45> I can't upgrade to the latest kernel.
[04:23] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I haven't gone down that road yet.  I'll do apache2 and php5 purge/install now.
[04:24] <james296> that doesnt help me, I want to install the latest official build of Banshee, but I dont know how
[04:24] <Flannel> mobiGeek: this is edgy?
[04:24] <Pelo> Netham45,  you'll get banned for that pluggin
[04:24] <Netham45> Pelo: oops
[04:24] <mobiGeek> Flannel: how can I tell?
[04:24] <Flannel> mobiGeek: What did you install?  lsb_release -a
[04:25] <Pelo> james296, do you have the latest official build of banshee ?
[04:25] <SubMOA> Can i burn a dvd with HD resolution in Ubuntu (one that will work in my DVD player)?
[04:25] <infidel> anyone know about mounting a usb drive with ntfs?
[04:25] <SubMOA> ...I have Elephants Dream and want to burn it in all it's HD goodness
[04:25] <Flannel> !ntfs | infidel
[04:25] <ubotu> infidel: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:25] <mobiGeek> Flannel: 6.06.1 LTS
[04:25] <mobiGeek> Flannel: dapper
[04:25] <balzac> SubMOA, good question
[04:25] <james296> I have version 0.11.1
[04:25] <infidel> Flannel, tried that
[04:25] <Netham45> anyone know a good IRC client?
[04:25] <Pelo> james296,  what format is the install file you have ?
[04:25] <SubMOA> Netham45, i'm on xchat
[04:25] <bogor> SubMOA: did you try k2b
[04:25] <Jaguar> Netham45: X-Chat is nice.
[04:26] <Netham45> I tried xchat
[04:26] <Netham45> didn't really like it
[04:26] <bogor> sorry k3b
[04:26] <james296> it came with Synaptic
[04:26] <SubMOA> bogor, k2b, eh?  Not sure what that is, uno momento and I will google
[04:26] <Netham45> does irssi have a GUI version?
[04:26] <Jaguar> Netham45: What exactly are you looking for in an irc client?
[04:26] <divoxx> hey guys... i'm trying to install ubuntu but it freezes during X initialization, the cursos appears and them it just freezes.... any ideas what could be causing it?
[04:26] <Flannel> Netham45: uh, no?  You could... run irssi in a gnome terminal
[04:26] <cables> Netham45, the whole point of irssi is that it's CLI. Xchat is a good GUI IRC client
[04:26] <Flannel> divoxx: did you check the integrity of the CD?
[04:26] <divoxx> Flannel: yes
[04:27] <divoxx> and it's happening in both ubuntu, and xubuntu
[04:27] <Flannel> mobiGeek: then you're up to date.  no ammount apt-get upgrading will help.  What is the error you get?
[04:27] <divoxx> which is probably some hardware thing ;/
[04:27] <Flannel> divoxx: Try the alternate CD
[04:27] <divoxx> Flannel: what're the differences between them?
[04:27] <Pelo> Netham45,  don't confuse  xchat with xchat-gnome ( the second one is the one that comes default in ubu, it's crap)
[04:27] <Netham45> ok
[04:28] <Netham45> once kbuntu finishes its install, I'll try to get it.
[04:28] <Flannel> divoxx: the alternate CD doesn't have a LiveCD/GUI.  It plops you straight into a textmode installer.
[04:28] <Netham45> XD
[04:28] <Pelo> Netham45,  both are in synaptic,
[04:28] <mobiGeek> Flannel: when I try to start apache2, either by running /etc/init.d/apache2 start  or by running it by hand (/usr/sbin/apache2 -k start) with the PHP mod enabled, I get a segfault.
[04:28] <jrr> is the text-based installer still available (6.10 disc)
[04:28] <Flannel> Netham45: for regular 'xchat', you'll need to enable universe
[04:28] <balzac> Could not calculate the upgrade
[04:28] <balzac> A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug.
[04:28] <Netham45> Pelo: I used apt-get to install kbuntu
[04:28] <balzac> i wish i could get a more specific error message
[04:28] <Netham45> !universe
[04:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:28] <Flannel> jrr: Yes.  On the Alternate CD.  The desktop CD is *only* a live CD
[04:28] <divoxx> Flannel: k, thanks :)
[04:28] <balzac> what log should i consult?
[04:28] <Pelo> Netham45,  that's very leet of you
[04:28] <jrr> Flannel: D=
[04:28] <mobiGeek> Flannel: no message in error.log, nothing obvious.  An strace shows that libapache2-mod-php5 just finished being open, read and closed right before the segfault.
[04:28] <Netham45> :)
[04:28] <jrr> even in safe mode, i get garbled graphics
[04:28] <Flannel> balzac: /var/log/apt?
[04:29] <jrr> on my super weird unsupported *nvidia* card
[04:29] <Flannel> jrr: Use the alternate CD to install.
[04:29] <francois> Hi, i want to buy a wireless card for my laptop,  would usb or pcmcia be better?
[04:29] <jrr> downloading now
[04:29] <Pelo> balzac,  look up your error message in  the forum,  there is a good chance you'll find an answer there
[04:29] <mobiGeek> Flannel: I believe it started segfaulting right after upgrading to edgy (the website certainly worked fine right after I installed dapper...I dist-upgraded last week and didn't notice the site was down)
[04:30] <jrr> Flannel: where do i find it?
[04:30] <infidel> Flannel, any other ideals?
[04:30] <jrr> (apparently not at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download)
[04:30] <Flannel> jrr: on the download page.  For edgy, youll have to get past the facade, with "More Installation Options"
[04:30] <balzac> /var/log/dist-upgrade*.log
[04:30] <balzac> that's the log in question
[04:30] <balzac> Pelo, i googled the error message
[04:31] <Flannel> mobiGeek: Well, removing (with purge) of apache and php should work.  Just make sure you get all the components
[04:31] <Flannel> mobiGeek: obviously, that means backup your sites and stuff
[04:31] <Pyranix> flannel or pelo, when either of you have a moment, i need some help.
[04:31] <Flannel> mobiGeek: the config files,not /var/www
[04:31] <divoxx> Flannel: one quick question... i have other partitions i'd like to save, does the alternate cd gives me the choice of which partition to install ?
[04:31] <jrr> Flannel: found it, thanks
[04:31] <vox754> Flannel, I'm confused with the whole xchat and xchat-gnome thing, I think I have installed xchat manually, and xchat-gnome was never installed in the first place, are you sure the latter is not just a frontend, please read "aptitude show xchat" and "aptitude show xchat-gnome" and tell men what you think
[04:31] <Pelo> Pyranix,   I don't play guess the problem  as your question and wait for someone to help out
[04:31] <Death_Sargent> Can someone help me unblock my udb ports
[04:31] <Flannel> divoxx: the alternate CD gives you more choices.
[04:32] <mobiGeek> Flannel: thanks
[04:32] <Pyranix> any ideas on how to fix nautilus? i ran an update awhile back and it hosed nautilus, so i upgraded it and now i cant even get a gui up.
[04:32] <Death_Sargent> i was using firestarter and now i can't file share
[04:32] <Flannel> divoxx: the alternate CD is the tried and true installer of old.  with LVM support, and plnty other
[04:32] <Pelo> vox754,   just open up synaptic and search for xchat,  you'll see which is installed
[04:32] <Death_Sargent> all udb ports have nat blocking
[04:32] <Death_Sargent> udp
[04:32] <francois> Hi, i want to buy a wireless card for my laptop,  would usb or pcmcia be better?
[04:32] <Flannel> Pyranix: A gui?  As in gnome? or just a nautilus window?  What errors do you get?
[04:32] <Pelo> Pyranix,  sudo apt-get reinstall nautilus
[04:33] <Pyranix> flannel:gnome comes up but nautilus is non exsistant...
[04:33] <vox754> Pelo, I use xchat, from the aptitude description... so why do people say that xchat-gnome is crap?
[04:33] <Death_Sargent> thats why you are reinstalling it
[04:33] <Pelo> francois,   go and see user comments on wireless cards in the forum
[04:33] <Pyranix> pelo: tried that now i am here
[04:33] <Death_Sargent> does someone know how i can remove all udp blocks from my iptables
[04:33] <francois> Pelo: thanks, its just that i don't know anything about laptops :S
[04:34] <Pelo> vox754,  I said it was crap .  it's just a different gui then xchat,  and I don't like it
[04:34] <darkholme> hi everybody ...
[04:34] <Flannel> Pyranix: yeah, try reinstalling nautilus (and other associated files, like perhaps nautilus-data and stuff), if you had an error message, You'd probably be able to pinpoint, but right now we're shotgun debugging
[04:34] <Pelo> Pyranix,  what exactly is the problem ?
[04:34] <Death_Sargent> PLEASE i need to unblock udp
[04:35] <Netham45> Death_Sargent: did you google it?
[04:35] <hateyla> thanks for all peoples.. takecare all gudbye.
[04:35] <Netham45> o.o
[04:35] <Netham45> whoa
[04:35] <Netham45> I have 2 apt-gets running at the same thime
[04:35] <Netham45> time*
[04:35] <Death_Sargent> no i kinda come here first and ask for a bit before i google stuff
[04:35] <Netham45> Death_Sargent: try googling it.
[04:35] <darkholme> please please....I need you help...I have been searching like 3 weeks in the web....for the solution of my problem and no one knows it:
[04:36] <Death_Sargent> aight but im gona be back if i don't find anything
[04:36] <Netham45> darkholme:  what's your problem?
[04:36] <Pelo> Death_Sargent,  if this is for torrent purposes,  there are no active udp trackers around so it's not realy an issue
[04:36] <aSt3raL> y0
[04:37] <Pyranix> Flannel. i did some upgrading and came back i got an error saying nautilus failed to start. i re installed it via synaptic. it dumped some of my python libs and fell back on the native c. when i rebooted and login i get just a brown background. cant even pull up a terminal.
[04:37] <darkholme> I have a laptop xps m1710 and i have been trying to install a lot of different distros of linux...but it is not recognizing the installation cd!!! it's just going above it!! I mean bypassing it and not showing anything...the problem is not the cd because it runs ok in other computers and is not the boot order of the bios because I can install ubuntu dapper but not ubuntu edgy!
[04:37] <wheels3572> how do you tell what version of ubuntu your running?
[04:37] <zorplex> Are you sure you have inserted it right side up? jkjk :p
[04:37] <Pyranix> <--- not good with linux commandline
[04:37] <mobiGeek> Flannel: I just purged and reinstalled... I get the exact same segfault
[04:37] <darkholme> so....do you know what's the difference between the installation of dapper and edgy?
[04:37] <voltagex> for zsh, where would I put http://www.aperiodic.net/phil/prompt/prompt.txt ?
[04:38] <darkholme> why my computer is not running the setup of edgy???:S
[04:38] <Pelo> darkholme,  try the alternate install cd,  it's command line
[04:38] <Netham45> darkholme: why don't you install dapper, then do an update-manager -d ???
[04:38] <zorplex> is it possible to force a command line install from a live cd?
[04:38] <Pelo> Pyranix,   boot in safe mode ( or whatever it is ) and  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[04:39] <Steve-O> MOUNTING AND UNMOUNTING USB:  Can anyone tell me how to mount and unmount a USB pen drive?  How do I know if it's mounted or not?  What is the point of mounting it if I can read it without doing that?
[04:39] <darkholme> I tried it also....but it does the same!
[04:39] <Pyranix> pelo: will try.
[04:39] <darkholme> I did that also...
[04:39] <darkholme> but it takes hours to update
[04:39] <Pelo> Steve-O,  it should auto mount when you plug it in ,  mount point is /media/somethng
[04:40] <darkholme> now i have edgy but i would like to reinstall it because it's having troubles
[04:40] <voltagex> zorplex: should be, but I almost always use the server CD so I can't remember
[04:40] <darkholme> but i don't want it to take hours again!
[04:40] <Steve-O> Is that exactly what I type in the terminal?
[04:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> what are the cmds in terminal to give eth0 and additional gateway addy?
[04:40] <Pelo> darkholme,  could be a borked cd, checkout the ubuntu site, it has a section on instalation issues
[04:41] <NETWizz> I have a problem with Beryl on my laptop.  Please advise
[04:41] <dj_killa> could someone please read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343239 and tell me whether its possible to solve this or not? I've been trying to solve this for more than 3 months now unsuccessfully
[04:42] <Pelo> Steve-O,   in the terminal  try       cd /media          then type        ls     to see what the dir contains
[04:42] <Netham45> darkholme: put the CD in another computer and do an integrity check.
[04:42] <darkholme> no way..the cd is working fine in other computers
[04:42] <Netham45> is it installing fine?
[04:42] <darkholme> yes
[04:42] <darkholme> is installing perfectly....
[04:43] <Steve-O> I didn't put the pen drive in yet.  I should do that before typing in the command, right?
[04:43] <Netham45> darkholme: how old is the computer your tring to install it on?
[04:43] <Pelo> Steve-O,   how would you like a virtual slap upside the head ?
[04:43] <darkholme> that's why I would like to know the difference between the installation of dapper and edgy because dapper installs ok
[04:43] <Steve-O> I deserve it
[04:43] <darkholme> the computer is new
[04:43] <darkholme> is a XPS M1710
[04:43] <darkholme> Dell
[04:44] <Pelo> Steve-O,  plug in your pen drive and see if it mounts,  it should appear on your desktop
[04:44] <kingcobra> why does sudo gedit command not work for me anymore
[04:44] <Steve-O> Does that come with free pr0n?
[04:44] <slap_me> hmm
[04:44] <slap_me> how do i go about uninstalling ubunut, and getting all that space back...on a tri boot partitioned hard?
[04:44] <slap_me> hard drive*
[04:45] <Netham45> bbl
[04:45] <balzac> i'm in package hell
[04:45] <Pelo> darkholme,  you can try looking up the laptop model in the forum  to see if there are any issues reported
[04:45] <slap_me> ubuntu* too
[04:45] <darkholme> yes I have done that also..
[04:45] <balzac> i'm probably going to just back up my files and re-install like i've done with windows 100 times
[04:45] <Pelo> slap_me,  just repartion it
[04:45] <slap_me> mm?
[04:45] <Steve-O> I see an icon that says USB 2.0 flash disk
[04:45] <tupa> does anybody knows what this error in dmesg means?
[04:45] <darkholme> it doesnt say anything about edgy
[04:45] <tupa> APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[04:45] <darkholme> in this machine
[04:45] <tupa> I have a P4 HyperThreading 3.0 GHz and a pcchips mobo
[04:45] <Pelo> Steve-O,  congradulations your usb drive is mounted
[04:46] <infidel> /j #linuxhelp
[04:46] <Steve-O> I must be an expert now.
[04:47] <mobiGeek> Flannel: what version of apache2 do you have installed right now?
[04:48] <Pyranix> pelo: no go. E: unknown operation ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <Sukarn> anyone? please? could someone please read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343239 and tell me whether its possible to solve this or not? I've been trying to solve this for more than 3 months now unsuccessfully
[04:48] <dumezil_> anyone know about scim chinese input and how to select which chinese font to use?
[04:49] <Pelo> Pyranix,   just backup your /home/user  folder and re-install ubuntu from scratch,  ( you'd have been done by now )
[04:49] <sirwilliam> i have a turion64....if i download amd64 will i still be able to get flash, w32codecs, etc. to work easily??
[04:49] <void^> sirwilliam: no.
[04:49] <Fujitsu> sirwilliam: Just use the i386 version, otherwise you'll have a lot of trouble.
[04:49] <darkholme> thanks for all I have to leave
[04:49] <darkholme> bye!
[04:49] <sirwilliam> kk
[04:49] <sirwilliam> that's what i thought
[04:50] <voltagex> I'm using zsh on ubuntu, and I'm getting zsh: command not found: prompt
[04:50] <void^> flash works on amd64 with nspluginwrapper, bit of a pain to make it work right though
[04:50] <tbuss> need help installing ubuntu on external firewire hdd
[04:50] <zorplex> I am attempting to install 6.10 using a live CD but the desktop freezes shortly after displaying the background. The 6.06 installs just fine. The vid card is an Geforce 7800 GT, any ideas?
[04:50] <nixnoob1> anyone in here ever use opensuse?
[04:50] <Pyranix> pelo: i could have done that, however, i am still quite new to linux and i would like to learn from my mistakes so that i can fix them without reinstall.
[04:51] <CaptainMorgan> zorplex, what background? the desktop? or the startup background with the Ubuntu logo ?
[04:51] <tbuss> can i install ubuntu on a external firewire hdd without affecting my current windows partions?
[04:51] <zorplex> desktop
[04:51] <mobiGeek> morning Cap'n !
[04:51] <CaptainMorgan> mobiGeek, !
[04:52] <Pelo> Pyranix,  that,s the nice thing about linux,  when you mess up you reinstall and you don't loos youre config and stuff
[04:52] <zorplex> gnome loads but shortly after the background displays it tears and the desktop freezes save for the mouse
[04:52] <thugren> zorplex Yea... I had the same problem... Just Give up and install the x86 ver
[04:52] <Pelo> Pyranix,  provided that you back up yoru home folder or mount it to a different partition
[04:52] <Spartacus> If I'm running ubuntu Edgy, is there a terminal command I can use to install qt 4.2.3 instead of downloading the file?
[04:52] <Flannel> mobiGeek: packages.ubuntu.com and you can get version information.  But, the same that you had.
[04:52] <Netham45|Shower> holy crap, KDE has ALOT of dependencies
[04:52] <Netham45|Shower> ok
[04:52] <Netham45|Shower> bbl
[04:52] <zorplex> It isn't the x64 distro
[04:52] <mobiGeek> Flannel: ah, okay, lordhelmet indicated he had newer versions.
[04:52] <Flannel> mobiGeek: He must be on Edgy
[04:52] <Pelo> Netham45|Shower,  for heaven sakes put on some clothes
[04:53] <Pyranix> pelo: how would i restore the back up after reinstall?
[04:53] <mobiGeek> so is it hard to go to edgy?  Is it smart?
[04:53] <tbuss> is it hard to install ubuntu on a external firewire hdd
[04:53] <Pelo> Pyranix,   I was thinking just coying home folder back
[04:54] <Steve-O> It is a desktop icon.  When I double click on it.  I don't see any icon representing the USB drive.  I did it before, but I can't remember.  Can you help me, Pelo?  I only see [/ - File Browser]  with a bunch of folders in it.
[04:54] <zorplex> iirc 6.10 is distributed with an OS Nvidia driver, no? Is there a way to disable it?
[04:54] <Pelo> Pyranix,  but seriously,  mounting your home folder on a seperate partition is the best
[04:54] <Sukarn> zorplex: happened to me once. i fixed it by doing ctrl+alt+f1, and "killall esd" in the terminal there, then ctrl+alt+f7
[04:54] <zorplex> @ Sukarn kk I'll try it
[04:54] <vox754> Sukarn, so you were having problems with ethernet connection? how weird!
[04:54] <Sukarn> very very weir
[04:55] <Sukarn> weird*
[04:55] <Pelo> Steve-O,  that would be the content of your usb drive ,  just change the icon from the properties ( probably just a theme issue)
[04:55] <mobiGeek> Flannel: so is it hard to go to edgy from dapper?  Is it smart?
[04:55] <tbuss> is grub necessary for ubuntu install on external hdd
[04:55] <thugren> zorplex, I had the same problem. With that today, I What do you have for hardware..
[04:55] <Sukarn> and now i've had a shiny new ubuntu 6.06 install with nothing extra on it cause i don't have a working ethernet connection on it for 4 months
[04:55] <Pyranix> pelo: ok i guess ill have to try that
[04:56] <Steve-O> Is there a better way?  I think that a terminal command may give a more clear answer.
[04:56] <Flannel> Spartacus: Give the devs a bit of time, and you'll have the fixes in edgy.  The release was only four days ago
[04:56] <Pyranix> pelo: thanks.
[04:56] <Pelo> Pyranix,  I made a 10 gig partition for ubuntu , a 2 gig part for the swap and I left the rest for the home folder , works very nicely for me
[04:56] <tbuss> any suggestions on how to install ubuntu to external firewire hdd
[04:56] <zorplex> I am booting the disc again, I am attempting an install on a machine with 1GB DDR, Athlon64 3800+, Geforce 7800 GT
[04:57] <Flannel> mobiGeek: The dapper update manager is pretty good, yeah.  But, Im still on dapper, so I don't know firsthand
[04:57] <Flannel> !install | tbuss
[04:57] <ubotu> tbuss: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:57] <Pelo> Steve-O,  what exactly do you expect to happen when you plug your usb pen drive in ?
[04:57] <Steve-O> To be able to see what's on the drive; I did it before.
[04:57] <balzac> I guess i better not mess around with my system until i back my sh!t up
[04:57] <Flannel> !backup | balzac
[04:57] <ubotu> balzac: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:57] <Pelo> Steve-O,  and you don't now ?
[04:57] <tbuss> at least you didnt tell me to google it...............
[04:58] <balzac> then i'll wipe it clean and reinstall
[04:58] <balzac> i can't handle all these dependencies
[04:58] <tbuss> so what kind of help can i find here
[04:58] <delrey> I desperately need help with wireless on Ubuntu. Could someone please help me out? I've done the proper research, and I'd consider myself pretty experienced with Linux and wireless in general, but I really can't figure this out.
[04:58] <Steve-O> I was using somebody else's computer when I did it.
[04:58] <Pelo> tbuss,  help you ask questions for
[04:58] <delrey> I've got a wireless card to the point where iwconfig wlan0 list properly determines all the nearby ESSIDs
[04:58] <akirksey> hey does anyone know if there is a way to make a Texas Instruments SD Card reader work in ubuntu without building a new kernal from the 2.17-cr1
[04:58] <delrey> But when I dhclient wlan0 it doesn't get an IP.
[04:59] <linux_> hi
[04:59] <delrey> Can anyone help me out? I'm not really sure how to fix this.
[04:59] <akirksey> delray are you using a broadcom chipset?
[04:59] <Pelo> Steve-O,  when you plug the usb drive in , you get an icon on the desktop , just double click it and you get the content of your usb drive displayed ,
[04:59] <delrey> delrey: No, it's a Linksys WMP111v2
[04:59] <Pelo> !wireless | delrey
[04:59] <ubotu> delrey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:59] <linux_> yes
[04:59] <thugren> zorplex, I only got up to the logo when it goes after bootin to the set. It kept hang on the Graphics card.
[05:00] <tbuss> im not trying to be negative. i have read a lot of documentatio, im just confused at this point. i dont have the experience to deciede what pertains and what does not
[05:00] <linux_> you are using ubuntu?
[05:00] <delrey> Er, akirksey.
[05:00] <akirksey> well bcmwl5 drivers were necessary for a linksys card i purchased a few weeks ago
[05:00] <Steve-O> I see a whole bunch of folders that I think are executable files?  Like bin, boot cd rom, dev, etc.
[05:00] <delrey> akirksey: This is an old PCI card
[05:00] <mobiGeek> Flannel: update-manager appears to be needing X....I'm running on a headless server.  Is there a better way to upgrade to Edgy?
[05:00] <Pelo> tbuss,  if you have an ubuntu related problem just ask the question and we will try and help
[05:00] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <delrey> I really need help with this please help me.
[05:01] <Voytek> Hi everyone. I just installed OpenOffice 2.1 and the SDK 2.1 on Edgy Eft, and was wondering -- I did both using dpkg -i and now I need to know the directories where they were installed. How do I find out?
[05:01] <Sukarn> wah...sob sob...no one is able to help me with http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343239 , and there are no professionals that I can hire where I live
[05:01] <Voytek> (err OpenOffice SDK 2.1)
[05:01] <delrey> dhclient wlan0 won't work, but iwconfig wlan0 list works perfectly
[05:01] <Pelo> Steve-O,   in the menu > places > my computer ,   what do you see there
[05:01] <delrey> It even tells me that the link connection is 100/100 and all the signal / noise stuff in iwconfig wlan0
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <mikejanssen> hehe
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <Pelo> linux_, ask in #winehq
[05:01] <delrey> linux_: Shut up
[05:01] <mikejanssen> nice job linux_
[05:01] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:02] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:02] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:02] <Pelo> linux_,  you are about to get banned
[05:02] <Spartacus> bye
[05:02] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:02] <Pelo> !ops | linux_
[05:02] <ubotu> linux_: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[05:02] <delrey> seriously, i need help, please help me out
[05:02] <zorplex> don't we all
[05:02] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, way too slow ;)
[05:02] <tbuss> Pelo: it's not really a problem, im just trying to figure out what i need to do so i can install ubuntu on a external firewire hdd, i dont want to create a boot floppy with grub on, and my existing windows partitions need to go unaffected
[05:02] <delrey> well i state my issues already, i think it's enough to at least help me out
[05:02] <Hobbsee> so i see
[05:02] <Hobbsee> what a moron
[05:03] <Flannel> tbuss: You'd need a boot floppy, or some other form of boot media
[05:03] <Sukarn> I seriously do, I can't use my network in Ubuntu... thats a major problem for me
[05:03] <akirksey> do you have a wireless card entry under system>administration>networking
[05:03] <void^> tbuss: depends on your bios i guess
[05:03] <delrey> akirksey: yes, look i know the wireless card works, otherwise iwconfig wlan0 wouldn't work
[05:03] <delrey> akirksey: what doesn't make sense is why dhclient wlan0 gives me 255.255.255.255 on a 172.16.1.x network
[05:03] <Pelo> delrey,
[05:03] <delrey> Pelo: what?
[05:04] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:04] <tbuss> Flannel: how will ubuntu load from external hdd, do i install grub on the master boot record on windows
[05:04] <Pelo> delrey, never mind, it was a typo
[05:04] <tbuss> void: im not sure if my bios will boot a firewire device
[05:04] <void^> tbuss: if your bios can't detect the firewire disk grub alone on ide/sata won't even help
[05:05] <mikejanssen> how do i go about uninstalling ubuntu on a tri-boot system? i never use it, and i wanna alocate that space to xp for my music collection
[05:05] <mobiGeek> Flannel: update-manager appears to be needing X....I'm running on a headless server.  Is there a better way to upgrade to Edgy?
[05:05] <zorplex> So I booted back into the 6.10 live CD and everything except the mouse has frozen. ctrl+alt+f1 or f7 has no effect
[05:05] <Steve-O> Floppy 1, Floppy Drive, CD-RW Drive, CD-RW/DVD+-Drive: DVD Video Recording, and Filesystem.
[05:05] <void^> tbuss: connect a random firewire hd, see if you can bring up some sort of boot device selection and if it's offered there
[05:05] <levander> I'm trying to get my onboard NIC to work.  I've had it set up so that a PCI NIC has been working, but I wanna try again to get the onboard NIC working.  The onboard NIC is being recognized, but I think it's eth1, and the PCI NIC is eth0.  I've removed the kernel module that is acting as a driver for the PCI eth0 NIC.  But, when I "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it says "device not found".
[05:05] <zorplex> I am also having to use "safe video mode" or w/e in order to even get to view the desktop before it freezes
[05:05] <levander> I'm wondering if it's looking for eth0 and not eth1?
[05:05] <levander> Is there any way to tell it to look for eth1?
[05:05] <levander> Or, swtich eth0 and eth1 easily?
[05:05] <Flannel> mobiGeek: that's correct
[05:05] <Flannel> !upgrade | mobiGeek
[05:05] <ubotu> mobiGeek: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:05] <mattyv> mikejanssen: delete the partition, then extend the xp one into the free space
[05:06] <ifree> hello, i have a problem after manual installing the lastest Nvidia driver 9755...
[05:06] <akirksey> mikejanssen: load the live cd run gnome partition manager and wipe the ext3 file system. although I'm not entirely sure you can expand a fat32 file system which windows is on, but you might be able to make another mountable drive with the partition manager to allocate space for keeping that information you want
[05:06] <tbuss> void^: if this is the case i can install ubuntu on the external and boot both os's
[05:06] <xlsty>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:06] <ifree> the graphical interface refuse to start
[05:06] <john___> Anyone know how I can configure my Touchpad?
[05:06] <Flannel> !synaptics | john___
[05:06] <ubotu> john___: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[05:06] <mikejanssen> but what about the grub menu
[05:06] <akirksey> oh make sure the ext3 file system is the part of the parition that is actually part you want to remove
[05:06] <mobiGeek> Flannel: yeah...so the part about NOT RECOMMENDED when upgrading via apt-get leaves me a bit ...uh...frightened.
[05:06] <akirksey> that's beyond me.
[05:06] <Netham45|Shower> back
[05:06] <mikejanssen> mattyv, what about the grub menu, wont my boot menu be jacked up?
[05:07] <john___> Where do I type !synaptics, flannel?
[05:07] <ifree> API mismatch: the Nvidia Kernel modules has the version 1.0-7*** but the X module has the version 1.0-955
[05:07] <mattyv> mikejanssen: can't remember exatly, but you'll just need the xp disk do do a mbr repair
[05:07] <Flannel> mobiGeek: that's for desktop users, because that *used* to be the method.  And it doesn't really count for us non-GUI people either. Update-manager makes sure to reinstall the metapackages (ubuntu-desktop, etc) before the upgrade
[05:07] <mikejanssen> i dont have a full xp disk
[05:07] <mikejanssen> just restore disc
[05:07] <Flannel> john___: you don't.  Read the link ubotu gave you
[05:07] <john___> Oh
[05:07] <Madpilot> Netham45, please don't nickspam. Use your IRC client's /away function if you're afk...
[05:07] <john___> OKay.
[05:07] <mikejanssen> and, the other menu is taken up from vista bootmenu
[05:08] <mobiGeek> Flannel: so you are saying, go ahead with the apt-get approach?
[05:08] <Flannel> mobiGeek: that's correct.
[05:08] <mobiGeek> Flannel: thank you sir, you've been a big help.
[05:08] <voltagex> any zsh users here?
[05:09] <voltagex> does prompt get installed when you install the zsh package?
[05:09] <DWRZ> hello... i am trying to install banshee following this guide (http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Banshee_and_plugins) but when I get to "sudo apt-get build-dep banshee", I get the following error: Reading package lists... Done
[05:09] <DWRZ> Building dependency tree
[05:09] <DWRZ> Reading state information... Done
[05:09] <DWRZ> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/xgl.compiz.info_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:09] <mattyv> mikejanssen: does that let you get into the recover console?
[05:09] <john___> Is there a shortcut of keys to open the terminal?
[05:09] <DWRZ> I have _absolutely no idea_ as to what this is... any ideas?
[05:10] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi, i wanted to try aiglx + beryl + ati, but when i run beryl-manager and select beryl as windows manager the X die, and just before it crash i got http://pastebin.ca/399665 , ubuntu 6.10 + open source driver "radeon", could someone help me or if this is not the place to ask tall me where do i need to ask?
[05:10] <DWRZ> I'm not even using XGL or Compiz...
[05:10] <mobiGeek> Flannel: I guess I can skip the "apt-get ubuntu-desktop" that they say has to be done (step #2) ?
[05:10] <levander> I'm wanting to enable eth1 instead of eth0, but when I "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" I think it's looking for eth0.  Is there a way to tell it to look for eth1?
[05:10] <mattyv> mikejanssen: the vista disk can probably do the mbr thing as well
[05:10] <kalin> what does it mean when apt-get update states that 'The following packages have been kept back'?
[05:10] <Flannel> mobiGeek: right.
[05:11] <Centaur5> Does Ubuntu ever clean up old kernels when you update?
[05:11] <blanky> hey guys, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start doesn't return anything and it's not running from the looks of ps aux | grep httpd
[05:11] <blanky> what should I do?
[05:11] <mikejanssen> mmm
[05:11] <levander> kalin: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[05:11] <Voytek> Can anyone please let me know how I can check where DPKG installed a package?
[05:11] <mikejanssen> recover cd lets me do nothing...just goes straight to restore menu
[05:11] <maddog39> centaur: no, it makes backups of them and keeps them so u can revert to an old one if need be
[05:11] <zorplex> think I may have found an answer, 7800 GT is apparently incompattible with the default nvidia driver, as I suspected, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2268952 seems to have a workaround
[05:11] <Steve-O> Can anybody help me with my USB?  I am trying to read the contents and I also want to be able to remove it safely.
[05:11] <Flannel> blanky: httpd wouldn't be listed in ps aux
[05:11] <blanky> Flannel: where, then?
[05:11] <Flannel> blanky: try apache2
[05:12] <blanky> Flannel: ps aux | grep apache2? same thing
[05:12] <Voytek> Steve-O -- what's the problem, exactly? Is it detecting it at all?
[05:12] <DWRZ> anybody?
[05:12] <blanky> Flannel: same thing :(
[05:12] <Flannel> blanky: what errors do you get then?  Check your log
[05:12] <Netham45> http://www.case-mod.com/aerocool-extremengine-extreme-engine-case-with-250mm-fan-black-p-1844.html *sparkle* *sparkle*
[05:12] <blanky> Flannel: wheres my log ?
[05:12] <acu> I am in KDE and I want to delete few folders from an external HD connected trough USB - when I click the folder and press DELETE I got a message : COULD NOT WRITE ...... Disk is full - anyone can help me  why is that ?
[05:12] <kalin> levander, thanks, that will help
[05:12] <Flannel> blanky: /var/log/
[05:12] <blanky> thanks Flannel
[05:12] <voltagex> are there any issues reported for the zsh package at the moment? It's not installing the prompt utility
[05:12] <blanky> Flannel: but what file in there?
[05:13] <levander> kalin: are you getting that for the kernel after having installed the nvidia driver?
[05:13] <Voytek> acu - might be the file system. Is it running NTFS or FAT / FAT32 or EXT3?
[05:13] <john___> Damn, they really need to make Synaptics easier...
[05:13] <john___> There are like, 30 steps...
[05:13] <blanky> nevermind i got it
[05:13] <ifree> hello, i have a problem after manual installing the lastest Nvidia driver 9755...
[05:13] <ifree> the graphical interface refuse to start
[05:13] <ifree> API mismatch: the Nvidia Kernel modules has the version 1.0-7*** but the X module has the version 1.0-955
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | john___
[05:13] <ubotu> john___: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:13] <acu> VoytekL is a FAT32
[05:13] <john___> Language?
[05:13] <mattyv> mikejanssen: Instructions for getting into vista recovery console, you'll seed the command prompt for fixmbr...See the below the screenshot...http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78082
[05:13] <mattyv> *need
[05:13] <Sukarn> ifree:reboot your computer
[05:13] <blanky> Flannel: there's nothing in either /var/log/apache2/access.log or error.log
[05:13] <john___> Since when is "damn" a horrible word...
[05:13] <Voytek> acu - try doing it through terminal... using "sudo".
[05:14] <levander> john___: I know, it's wierd.  They consider damn profanity in here.
[05:14] <john___> Hehe
[05:14] <john___> Crazy
[05:14] <ifree> Sukarn: i did it multiple times alr
[05:14] <levander> It's like Romper Room rules
[05:14] <ifree> same error msg
[05:14] <john___> lol
[05:14] <vox754> !ask > kingcobra
[05:14] <mattyv> The ubuntu christian edition guys might have complained
[05:14] <Centaur5> maddog39: Are there any programs or things that can be done to clean up packages that aren't needed or being used?
[05:14] <ardchoille> levander , john___ You don't have to stay here if you don't like following the rules.
[05:14] <Steve-O> Kurwa!  I really don't know.  I see an icon on the desktop that says, USB Flash Disk, and when I click on it.  I see a [/ - File browser]  and it's contents are bin, root, boot CD Rom, etc.
[05:15] <levander> yes sir ardchoille
[05:15] <Voytek> acu --- try sudo rm -r <your folder path> if it's protected on your USB
[05:15] <Sukarn> ifree: sorry, can't help then. haven't been able to use linux in 4 months cause of my damn ethernet not working in it
[05:15] <Voytek> (assuming you were doing it otherwise before)
[05:15] <maddog39> centaur: you can run: sudo apt-get clean and sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:15] <maddog39> to do that
[05:15] <Flannel> blanky: do you have any other http daemons on this computer?  (or did you at one point?)
[05:15] <enderxim> I just tried upgrading to feisty, and when I checked my orphaned packages, I found a ton of them. Is this typical when upgrading? Would it be different had I installed from a cd? Or did I just upgrade using a poor method (editing sources.list and changing edgy to feisty)? It was running fine but I am kinda anal about keeping my system clean and orphan is something I depend on to do that.
[05:15] <Flannel> enderxim: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[05:16] <ifree> thanks though... i think i just lay here and wait + random spamming of my problem
[05:16] <Centaur5> maddog39: Okay, that helps.  Thanks for the info!
[05:16] <DWRZ> hello... i am trying to install banshee following this guide (http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Banshee_and_plugins) but when I get to "sudo apt-get build-dep banshee", I get the following error:
[05:16] <DWRZ> Reading package lists... Done
[05:16] <DWRZ> Building dependency tree
[05:16] <DWRZ> Reading state information... Done
[05:16] <DWRZ> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/xgl.compiz.info_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:16] <Flannel> enderxim: but yes, manually changing sources list is not recommended.
[05:16] <enderxim> Flannel: Thank you, sorry. :-)
[05:16] <blanky> Flannel: yes I did at one point, my friend accidentally compiled from source. I killedall httpd instances and transfered everything to the apache2 installed by apt, but now I Can't start it, like I said earlier
[05:16] <maddog39> centaur: no problem
[05:16] <DWRZ> Any ideas? :(
[05:16] <enderxim> Flannel: Ah, thanks again.
[05:16] <Flannel> blanky: So, you're sure that it's not running currently?
[05:16] <blanky> nevermind Flannel I got it with sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[05:16] <zorplex> gah, you think there would be some heads up on the 7800 GT compatability issue with the default nv driver >: /
[05:16] <john___> Was there ever a Touchpad options built into Ubuntu?
[05:16] <eeyore_> can somebody tell me if there is a way to set flac compression to -8 using sound juicer?
[05:17] <thechris> I am a fan of consistency in my desktop.  Is there any gtk option to allow the gtk save dialogs to open in "advanced mode" by default?
[05:17] <john___> I can swear I used it last time I tried Ubuntu
[05:17] <anolis_> hello, i have a question about data manipulation
[05:17] <anolis_> its slightly amusing actually
[05:17] <montyp> anolis_, we'll be the judge of that
[05:17] <Flannel> thechris: check gconf
[05:18] <anolis_> i have calculated that in the game second life the maximum ammount of data that can be placed into a notecard is about 66kilobytes
[05:18] <Flannel> anolis_: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place, not here.
[05:18] <anolis_> the amount of notecards required to send a cd in this method would be around 10700
[05:18] <thechris> Flannel: from what i can tell, gconf is like the windows registry -- gret if you know the exact name of what you want, no so good otherwise
[05:18] <anolis_> no i havent told you my question
[05:18] <Steve-O> Any ideas, Voytek?
[05:19] <anolis_> how would i split an iso image into 10700 individual files?
[05:19] <Flannel> thechris: well, not as convoluted.  Things are pretty good at being where you think they ought to be.
[05:19] <ardchoille> thechris: I believe that depends on which widget was used when the devs wrote the app. I recenly found a pygtk app that had the old open/save dialog, but it used a .glade file. I opened that file in glade designer, switches the old widget for the new one, saved it and the app now uses the new open/save dialog.
[05:20] <Wo|f> anolis_ Not sure what your question has to do with Ubuntu ... you might Google for ways to split up ISO files into mutli-part binary archives. RAR is one option
[05:20] <thechris> Flannel: in the past i was unable to find such an option.  does one now exist?
[05:20] <acu> Voytek: I just found that my primary HD is full (how the heck I manage that?)
[05:20] <Flannel> thechris: I have no idea.
[05:20] <mattyv> zorplex: the default nv driver does its best, but it's only guessing how to work, the devs don't have access to any of the hardware specs
[05:20] <anolis_> ok, thanks
[05:20] <eeyore_> does anybody know if there is a way to set flac compression to -8 in sound juicer because it uses -5 by default it seems?
[05:20] <jrib> anolis_: man split
[05:20] <thechris> archangelpetro: i don't particularly like the
[05:20] <anolis_> alright awesome
[05:21] <thechris> archangelpetro: i don't particularly like the new dialog, i would like it better if it was a single dialog that only opened in "advanced mode"
[05:21] <montyp> anolis_, hmm i think mkisofs will only split into pre-defined sizes, and the program split probably won't work on an iso .. so ...
[05:22] <ardchoille> thechris: I agree with you :)
[05:22] <mattyv> eeyore_: try going to edit > prefs > format > edit profiles, choose the flac profile and edit it
[05:22] <levander> Where is the IP address stored on my computer?
[05:23] <montyp> levander, if you are directly connected to the net, do "ifconfig" in terminal
[05:23] <eeyore_> mattyv: the setting don't make sense. there is no option to set command line for the flac encoder
[05:23] <levander> montyp: I want to know what file it's stored in.
[05:23] <thechris> ardchoille: that is comforting, but not particularly helpful.
[05:23] <eeyore_> mattyv: there's just a bunch of gstreamer pipes of which i know nothing
[05:24] <delrey> Why would dhclient wlan0 produce No DHCPOFFERS received even when iwconfig wlan0 shows that it is connected to the AP
[05:24] <montyp> levander, it's not stored in a file, it is usually dynamically assigned to you when you connect to your ISP
[05:24] <Sukarn> well, I'm off now, if anyone can help, please reply to the topic http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343239
[05:24] <mattyv> eeyore_: I don't have flac installed and I've never changed profiles before, that's the only suggestion I have for now...although I'll have a peek at gconf
[05:24] <Netham45> ifconfig
[05:24] <Netham45> type that at a terminal
[05:24] <levander> montyp: No, I'm on a LAN connected to the internet.  I have a private static IP address on this network.
[05:25] <montyp> levander, well then /etc/network/interfaces
[05:25] <levander> thanks
[05:25] <eeyore_> mattyv: thanks
[05:25] <eeyore_> mattyv: i'll figure it out eventually
[05:25] <Netham45> am I the only one who finds it ironic that the right mouse button wore out first on my mouse?
[05:26] <Madpilot> mattyv, Ubuntu has flac support by default. You don't have to install anything, at least for every media player I've ever used in Ubuntu
[05:26] <montyp> when is the Fiestmeister official release date?
[05:26] <jrib> montyp: 19th of april is scheduled
[05:27] <montyp> jrib, ok thanks
[05:27] <Netham45> oh?
[05:27] <Netham45> I thought it was early april(3rd or 4th)
[05:27] <mattyv> Madpilot: Ah so it does, just missed it in Sound Juicer
[05:27] <Netham45> oh
[05:27] <Netham45> :(
[05:27] <eeyore_> the problem is that sound juicer doesn't use the flac encoder
[05:27] <Madpilot> mattyv, yeah, SJ will rip to flac as one of it's two default options
[05:28] <eeyore_> but gstreamer's something or other
[05:28] <eeyore_> but it's not the max compression
[05:28] <eeyore_> and it just bothers me
[05:28] <eeyore_> =)
[05:28] <Priest-of-Psi> anyone here use svn?
[05:28] <eeyore_> Priest-of-Psi: i do a little bit
[05:28] <Netham45> if I upgrade to feisty, is it possible to downgrade?
[05:29] <jrib> Netham45: no
[05:29] <jrib> not without a reinstall
[05:29] <Netham45> oh
[05:29] <eeyore_> Netham45: be patient for another 4 weeks or so
[05:29] <Netham45> ok
[05:29] <QsM`> Hey, can anyone please assist me on login into my server who is running ubuntu 6.0.6.1? Shamefully I've never used Linux before.
[05:29] <Netham45> QsM' um, type your account and password. :)
[05:29] <montyp> QsM`, oh, how shameful!
[05:29] <Netham45> or
[05:29] <Flannel> QsM`: hwo are you logging in? (and, it's just 6.06)
[05:29] <Netham45> do you want to ssh into it?
[05:30] <QsM`> I have all info (username, pass, ip) but I don't know how to log in or what software I need.
[05:30] <Netham45> QsM' did you install SSH on the server?
[05:30] <Pollywog> I have WPA working on my home wifi but what is the easiest way to change configs if I want to use my laptop at a library or other pllace?
[05:30] <Netham45> Pollywog: wifi-radar
[05:31] <Pollywog> Netham45: ty
[05:31] <QsM`> No I haven't I don't know how to log into my server
[05:31] <Pollywog> I think I have that installed
[05:31] <Flannel> QsM`: are you sitting at the server?
[05:31] <thugren> I am have a problem enable root account to access the gnome interface? How do I do it
[05:31] <QsM`> No it is rented.
[05:32] <Flannel> thugren: you don't.  Ubuntu doesn't use the root account
[05:32] <jrib> !root | thugren
[05:32] <ubotu> thugren: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:32] <BeepAU> i bought a laptop which came with a nvidia mcp51 chipset which I can't get sound to work with anything linux. could someone guide me as to how to get sound working in ubuntu?
[05:32] <Flannel> QsM`: well, what interface do they give you to login?  It's probably SSH, but you should find out for sure.
[05:33] <admix> greetings all!
[05:33] <admix> just installed ubuntu =)
[05:33] <Netham45> thugren:  system > administration > login window ... > security
[05:33] <Netham45> cool
[05:33] <Netham45> like it/?
[05:33] <QsM`> They just gave me the IP, username, and pass. Nothing else. I don't even have a control panel
[05:33] <montyp> QsM`, if you are using windows get putty, if not use terminal
[05:33] <Netham45> QsM' try getting putty
[05:33] <admix> yeah, much more than i have before
[05:33] <Netham45> then enter the IP
[05:33] <Netham45> then select yes to the hash key
[05:33] <Netham45> then enter your username/pass
[05:33] <needhelp> i need some help in getting my phillips USB sound card to work; i can get systems sounds but no music plays, for example.
[05:33] <admix> but' unable to launch my GPRS till installed gnome-ppp
[05:33] <montyp> QsM`, what are you on now? Windows or Linux?
[05:34] <QsM`> Alright I will google it thanks.
[05:34] <QsM`> Winxp
[05:34] <Netham45> yea
[05:34] <Netham45> use putty
[05:34] <montyp> QsM`, ok, get putty, put the information in, and make sure you select ssh
[05:34] <Netham45> ssh is selected by default, btw.
[05:34] <QsM`> Alright thanks alot guys.
[05:34] <Pollywog> is there something like wifi radar but for Gnome?
[05:34] <montyp> QsM`, because your login is most probably ssh ... unless they got tricky and put the sshd server listening on another port :)
[05:34] <Netham45> wifi-radar is for gnome. :)
[05:35] <QsM`> I'm hoping for ssh :)
[05:35] <Pollywog> oh I wonder what it was I used today in KDE
[05:35] <Pollywog> I think it was wifi radar
[05:35] <Netham45> it might work in KDE too, havn't tried personally.
[05:35] <BeepAU> i bought a laptop which came with a nvidia mcp51 chipset which I can't get sound to work with anything linux. could someone guide me as to how to get sound working in ubuntu?
[05:35] <montyp> QsM`, yeah ... only a fool would use telnet anyway
[05:35] <Pollywog> probably was then
[05:35] <thugren> natham45.. Thanks!!!!!!!!!! That was what I need
[05:35] <thugren> ;)
[05:35] <Pollywog> I was a foo once
[05:35] <Netham45> :)
[05:35] <Pollywog> long ago
[05:36] <Pollywog> well I might still be a foo but not because of telnet
[05:36] <QsM`> Alright, thanks man. I'll go check out putty and I'll be back if any issues. thanks again.
[05:39] <montyp> Pollywog, hmm maybe some other clear-text protocol then ;)
[05:39] <Pollywog> ahhh IRC
[05:40] <Netham45> wicd, try it, but it doesn't work well with encryption.
[05:40] <kraypius> for some reason my mic isnt working in ubuntu. I have set all the volume control tracks to on.. Mic is selected for recording.. all volume slides are up
[05:40] <montyp> Pollywog, that's the one!
[05:40] <needhelp> #
[05:40] <needhelp>     /msg nickserv register <ircdad>
[05:41] <mattyv> kraypius: Try alsamixer from a terminal, check that the mike isn't muted in there
[05:41] <Flannel> needhelp: You'll want to change that password
[05:41] <QsM`> Guys I logged in successfully! Is there a VNC like program for ubuntu? where I can login remotely and view the servers desktop?
[05:42] <montyp> QsM`, yeah, strangely called VNC
[05:42] <Pollywog> which package contains alsaconf?
[05:42] <Pollywog> in the Debian world it is alsa-utils
[05:42] <Pollywog> but I don't know about Ubuntu
[05:43] <Netham45> did you try apt-get install alsa-utils?
[05:43] <QsM`> Ah, I thought it only worked on windows. Can you instruct me on how to install it?
[05:43] <Hyper-cool> i'm having issues playing mp3's and some other "bad" file types. I looked on the ubuntu wiki and installed the suggested things using synaptic but i'm still getting "gstreamer could not find proper codec" does anyone know that's up? it's a freshly installed ubuntu edgy
[05:43] <I_Eat_Plastic> How do I allow users to WRITE (can already read) files via FTP in their own directory?
[05:43] <kraypius> mattyv, it seems as though its using the wrong mic
[05:43] <Netham45> QsM' do you have root access?
[05:43] <montyp> QsM`, well you have to know if there is a vnc server running on the remote machine
[05:43] <BeepAU> i bought a laptop which came with a nvidia mcp51 chipset which I can't get sound to work with anything linux. could someone guide me as to how to get sound working in ubuntu?
[05:43] <QsM`> Yes.
[05:43] <Pollywog> Netham45: I asked someone to install it yesterday but after he did, there was no alsaconfig in it
[05:43] <kraypius> mattyv, its using the one built into my monitor
[05:43] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: you need to install gstreamer-plugins bad and ugly
[05:43] <Pollywog> alsaconf
[05:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> !ftp
[05:44] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[05:44] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: look for packages named like that in synaptic
[05:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> !FTPd
[05:44] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[05:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> !vsftpd
[05:44] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[05:44] <mattyv> kraypius: Ah, not sure how good mike support is in Ubuntu, although my built-in one works too
[05:44] <Pollywog> bad and ugly?  I think that is what my mother called me
[05:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> !proftpd
[05:44] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[05:44] <BeepAU> i bought a laptop which came with a nvidia mcp51 chipset which I can't get sound to work with anything linux. could someone guide me as to how to get sound working in ubuntu?
[05:45] <Pollywog> BeepAU: have you Googled for it?
[05:45] <Netham45> BeepAU: Noone knows, stop pasting the same thing over and over and over.
[05:45] <Bohica032> can anyone spare some time?   I'm total green horn to ubuntu... just installed it 20 min ago.  Need help/advice.
[05:45] <kraypius> hrm. when i plug in my mic it turns off the monitor mics but i cant hear my plugged in mic
[05:45] <BeepAU> loads. i've beeen trying to fix it for like a week
[05:45] <Pollywog> BeepAU: use Google Linux and you might find that card listed
[05:45] <Pollywog> oic
[05:45] <Netham45> Bohica032: about what?
[05:46] <Bohica032> got so many questions
[05:46] <Netham45> well
[05:46] <Netham45> Im rather new to ubuntu
[05:46] <kingcobra> how do i import a firefox profile from windows
[05:46] <montyp> QsM`, type "gksudo xvncviewer" to get the viewer up on the client machine
[05:46] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_ which one's are they exactly? i installed the ones that are just called "bad" and "ugly" but there are others called "bad-dbg" and "bad-doc" and the same for the "ugly" packages
[05:46] <Netham45> about 2 weeks on the desktop, had the server for about 2 months.
[05:46] <asc> Bohica032: This channel works better when you just ask.
[05:47] <Bohica032> got the desktop 6 version, can I use it as a web server after installing Appchie, PHP and MySQL?
[05:47] <Netham45> Bohica032: ask some questions. someone may know.
[05:47] <Netham45> yes.
[05:47] <kingcobra> asc im asking but not getting response
[05:47] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: you don't need the -dbg and -doc. i'm not sure what's wrong
[05:47] <Flannel> Bohica032: yep.  There's no difference between a desktop and server machine
[05:47] <mattyv> kraypius: That's something I guess, try looking at the command "dmesg | tail" straight after you plug it in...don't paste the output here though
[05:47] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Migrating_settings_to_a_new_profile
[05:47] <Netham45> Flannel: not true, Desktop has a GUI
[05:47] <kingcobra> asc its ok :)
[05:48] <asc> kingcobra: Righto.
[05:48] <montyp> Netham45, exactly what makes Windows not a server :)
[05:48] <jessid> hi!
[05:48] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: which format does not play? is it mp3?
[05:48] <jimd3299> hi there, I'm having a problem with my laptop and speedstep.  My laptop is only running at 700mhz, accourding to 'lshw' and the it is a 1ghz PIII.
[05:48] <Pollywog> BeepAU: I read that your card is not yet known by ALSA drivers
[05:48] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: there are a few more that you can install. they are ffmpeg fluendo-mp3
[05:48] <jessid> i have a question: do you know some wysiwyg app to design web sites? Thanks!
[05:48] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_ : yeah it's not playing mp3's. I installed ffmpeg
[05:48] <blanky> !wireless
[05:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:48] <Netham45> montyp, what?
[05:48] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: try fluendo then
[05:49] <kbrosnan> jessid: nvu
[05:49] <lotusleaf> !nvu > jessid
[05:49] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_: it also won't stream mms
[05:49] <kraypius> mattyv, http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[05:49] <Flannel> Netham45: but you can remove it.  There's absolutely no difference in the systems, except the default grouping of packages installed.
[05:49] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: what's mms?
[05:49] <QsM`> hmm, it says -bash: gksudo: command not found
[05:49] <slavik> has there been any progress with bcm43xx???
[05:49] <mattyv> kraypius: Hmm, open the gnome volume control, edit preferences, tick the other mic options, there's a mic select that might work
[05:49] <mattyv> kraypius: looking now
[05:49] <Netham45> Flannel: yup.
[05:49] <jessid> kbrosnan thanks!
[05:49] <montyp> Netham45, Windows servers have a GUI, hence, by your logic, they aren't servers
[05:49] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_:streaming audio protocol... used by internet radio often
[05:49] <Netham45> no
[05:49] <kingcobra> kbrosnan, thanx very much
[05:50] <Netham45> by my logic Windows is different than DOS
[05:50] <montyp> Netham45, relax
[05:50] <slavik> Netham45: Windows NT line and Windows 9x are very different :)
[05:50] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: i don't know about that, sorry. did fluendo-mp3 work?
[05:50] <Pollywog> BeepAU: try this driver: snd-hda-intel
[05:50] <I_Eat_Plastic> How do I allow users to WRITE (can already read) files via FTP in their own directory?!! +++
[05:50] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: it does say that that's the actual mp3 decoder in the description of the package
[05:50] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, trying it.. just a sec:)
[05:50] <Flannel> I_Eat_Plastic: make sure they have permission
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> I_Eat_Plastic: Make the ftp non-anonymous
[05:50] <slavik> I_Eat_Plastic: chmod o+w /home/user/
[05:50] <kraypius> everything seems to be in order here
[05:50] <slavik> I_Eat_Plastic: sudo chmod o+w /home/user/
[05:51] <slavik> not sure if o is owner ...
[05:51] <BeepAU> pollywog - i've tried that out, but had no success. could i get the windows one and install with ndiswrapper?
[05:51] <I_Eat_Plastic> Thanks everyone. :D
[05:51] <slavik> I_Eat_Plastic: sudo chmod 0644 /home/user/ is safer
[05:51] <mattyv> kraypius: Whoops, you need to give me the full address of your pastebin
[05:51] <Pollywog> ndiswrapper for sound cards?
[05:51] <Pollywog> I thought it was for wifi
[05:51] <kraypius> http://pastebin.ca/399704
[05:51] <Netham45> ndiswrapper IS for wifi
[05:51] <kiah> Hi!
[05:51] <slavik> Pollywog: ndiswrapper si for entwork, but the idea can be applied to other drivers
[05:52] <Pollywog> slavik: oic
[05:52] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, Oh now it's changed error messages. it used to say that gstreamer didn't have the right codec for mp3, but now it says "Problem occurred without error being set. This is a bug in Rhythmbox or gstreamer"
[05:52] <Netham45> ndis is the windows network controller
[05:52] <kiah> hi
[05:52] <kiah> help me!
[05:52] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: there you go=) it's a bug
[05:52] <Flannel> !ask | kiah
[05:52] <ubotu> kiah: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:52] <kiah> ubuntu doesn't work!
[05:52] <BeepAU> slavik - is there a way i can apply the same idea?
[05:52] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: does that happen with all mp3s?
[05:52] <bayzider1> Yeah one of my downloads just randomly stoped when i touched absoulutly nothing!!!
[05:52] <Netham45> kiah: be way more descriptive.
[05:52] <Flannel> !doesntwork | kiah
[05:52] <ubotu> kiah: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:52] <Pollywog> kiah that is a broad statement
[05:52] <bayzider1> How do i get it to start back up again
[05:52] <slavik> BeepAU: a Windows API on top of Linux for drivers?
[05:53] <Pollywog> ubotu is funny sometimes
[05:53] <kiah> I go to Start > Run > uname -a
[05:53] <montyp> kiah, get your money back
[05:53] <kiah> and it doesn't work!
[05:53] <Netham45> um
[05:53] <slavik> It would be nice if Wine was extended to provide API for drivers ... could be interesting to run drivers through Wine
[05:53] <montyp> ah, a bad troll
[05:53] <bayzider1> firefox downloads that is
[05:53] <Flannel> kiah: You're on windows.  Please stop trolling.
[05:53] <Netham45> because there is no start > run.
[05:53] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, nope.. i just realized that it was an .m4a file to start with.
[05:53] <kiah> :( damn. I suck at trolling
[05:53] <Bohica032> trying to get web sserver runnig on the desktop version
[05:53] <kiah> I've been practising.
[05:53] <Netham45> yes you do
[05:53] <kiah> but I still suck
[05:53] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, mp3's are playing now thx
[05:53] <Pollywog> Bill Gates kid
[05:53] <slavik> Bohica032: install the apache2 package
[05:53] <Flannel> !lamp | Bohica032, link has instructions
[05:53] <ubotu> Bohica032, link has instructions: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:53] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: i have a bunch of those and they play for me. what it probably is is that it is encrypted
[05:54] <Netham45> now get out of here before I trace you and come and kill you.
[05:54] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: in that case there'd be nothing you can do
[05:54] <kiah> lol I'm not a windows user I'm a gentoo user who thinks trolling is funny
[05:54] <kiah> :D
[05:54] <BeepAU> slavik - converting windows drivers for use in linux. i have a cd which should have the windows drivers, but not with me.
[05:54] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: if it was bought off itunes for example
[05:54] <mattyv> kraypius: Ok, doens't look like there's anything about the mic in dmesg. To be honest it might not be detected/supported. But I don't know much about them. I have an old mic I tried at it did the same as yours, turned of internal but didn't work
[05:54] <art_> is everyone here using xchat?
[05:54] <kiah> anyway, bye guyys. Going to go learn how to troll on another channel now.
[05:54] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, well i certainly didn't pay for it
[05:54] <Flannel> art_: no
[05:54] <Hyper-cool> lol
[05:54] <slavik> BeepAU: ahh, can't really do it AFAIK
[05:54] <montyp> kiah, ah gentoo .. the wannabe freebsd-ers
[05:54] <slavik> ooh, I set up a LAMP server from scratch in a presentation in 2 hours :D
[05:54] <kbrosnan> bayzider1: you can reaname the .part file to the exact file name and then use wget to continue the file download
[05:54] <Pollywog> art: I am using kvirc presently
[05:54] <I_Eat_Plastic> !proftpd
[05:54] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[05:54] <Netham45> art_, no
[05:54] <kraypius> kthx
[05:54] <Pollywog> I have used xchat
[05:55] <Netham45> Im using Opera
[05:55] <Hyper-cool> i had gentoo
[05:55] <kiah> lol ahh... ubuntu.. the "I can't install debian"ers.
[05:55] <montyp> art_, no, irssi
[05:55] <bayzider1> kiah if you want to troll why did you say you are a troll exactly? If people can't just pick up on it you shouldn't be trying it.
[05:55] <slavik> kiah: more like we want a working stable "UP TO DATE" system :P
[05:55] <Netham45> can someone kick kiah? it's really bad at trolling.
[05:55] <Pollywog> kiah: or don't like Debian or ....
[05:55] <kiah> oh.
[05:55] <kiah> fair enough.
[05:55] <kiah> but gentoo is different to freebsd too
[05:55] <kiah> I use freebsd as well.
[05:55] <Netham45> wow, your bad at trolling.
[05:55] <bayzider1> I use lfs
[05:56] <montyp> kiah, right ... so even though I use AIX and Solaris at work, and FreeBSD on my home servers, I'm still a newbie because i also use ubuntu?
[05:56] <Bohica032> when I install LAMP on desktop, will I still have the GUI interface?
[05:56] <kiah> I said I was a troll because you guys caught me
[05:56] <mattyv> eeyore_: I had a look in gconf about your flac issue, couldn't find anything that wasn't already changeable in sound juicer. Might need to look for an alternative app
[05:56] <Madpilot> kiah, begone. Or you'll be assisted in leaving.
[05:56] <Madpilot> Bohica032, yes
[05:56] <montyp> kiah, or maybe, i think that by compiling, but never using CFLAGS, will make me an uber-*nixer?
[05:56] <Flannel> Bohica032: yep.  You'll have the GUI stuff (normal desktop) with the server stuff running as well
[05:56] <bayzider1> So you continue to mess with people not say "you are right im sorry i will try and be nice now"
[05:56] <kiah> montyp: no you aren't. but many are :). Alright, I shall begone.
[05:56] <eeyore_> mattyv: yeah i think i figured it out. i found a way to set the compression, it made the file smaller but not as small as using the flac encoder separately. i guess gstreamer has an old encoder
[05:56] <Hyper-cool> i would like to point out that everyone is wasting a lot of energy yelling at the "terrible" troll
[05:56] <bayzider1> kbrosan: How do you wget a file?
[05:56] <eeyore_> mattyv: thanks for your effort
[05:57] <TooR4u> how to create a web browser .....;In .net it is possible to create a web browser.How to do it in linux?
[05:57] <slavik> bayzider1: wget http://www.server.com/file.zip
[05:57] <blanky> !lamp
[05:57] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:57] <slavik> bayzider1: or soem such
[05:57] <TooR4u> By using which porgramming language?
[05:57] <montyp> TooR4u, lol sure is ... i'm writing one atm
[05:57] <detectiveinspekt> How do I put lines about characters in openoffice, kind of like underlining but overlining?
[05:57] <eeyore_> TooR4u: actually the whole of firefox's rendering engine is already in .net=)
[05:57] <montyp> TooR4u, i'm doing it in C++
[05:57] <bayzider1> Thanks
[05:57] <mattyv> eeyore_: No worries, nothing better to do right now ;)
[05:57] <eeyore_> TooR4u: you could probably do it with 10 line sof code
[05:57] <bayzider1> it died at 82 percent
[05:57] <bayzider1> my hear stoped
[05:57] <Hyper-cool> is there a better choice than rhythmbox for mp3 library management? i do need ipod integration one way or another
[05:58] <montyp> TooR4u, you could get all limp wristed though and do it in mono and C#
[05:58] <montyp> but you could never live with yourself
[05:58] <boune> amarok
[05:58] <zues_62> does anyone know of a program i can use to magnify the screen as i am a bit hard of seeing
[05:58] <kbrosnan> bayzider1: you also need the continue flag -C I think
[05:58] <Netham45> wow
[05:58] <Netham45> I love Ubuntu
[05:58] <eeyore_> hear hear
[05:58] <TooR4u> eeyore_, kool .....
[05:58] <zues_62> ubuntu is good
[05:58] <montyp> zues_62, there are accesibility options for ubuntu .. i'm unfamiliar with them, but others won't be
[05:58] <zues_62> windows is hell on earth LOL
[05:58] <TooR4u> montyp, i hate .Net
[05:59] <Netham45> Windows usually filled up my RAM and went to swap on boot, havn't even gotten past 300mb usage in Ubuntu
[05:59] <zues_62> oh ok i have had a look at them but cant figure them out lol
[05:59] <eeyore_> TooR4u: if you're really interested look for the package libmono-gecko or something and look up some docs
[05:59] <TooR4u> okk
[05:59] <montyp> TooR4u, lol, well i use what the boss tells me, but i have mixed feelings about it
[05:59] <kbrosnan> bayzider1: I was slightly wrong, it is lowercase 'c' wget -c http://example.com/file.exe
[05:59] <zues_62> wat is that berry package
[05:59] <zues_62> Iberry or something
[05:59] <thugren> Hey how do you start in the termail mode?
[05:59] <eeyore_> TooR4u: libgecko-cil
[06:00] <mister_roboto> zues_62: kmag is a kde screen magnifiier
[06:00] <Hyper-cool> is there a better choice than rhythmbox for mp3 library management? i do need ipod integration one way or another. Also is there a way to make GAIM not so huge and screen destroying? perhaps another client?
[06:00] <thugren> when your booting?
[06:00] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: amarok is much better but runs in kde
[06:00] <pegasus> you can amarok in gnome as well
[06:00] <zues_62> i cant use that in gnome tho
[06:00] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: so you would need kdelibs installed and it doesn't really work correctly under gnome sometime
[06:00] <TooR4u> eeyore_,  i have to install libgecko-cil&libmono-gecko?
[06:00] <mister_roboto> zues_62: gnome-mag
[06:00] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: I am trying out banshee for a while
[06:00] <zues_62> what is the name of that program u can do all sorts of cool stuff with ur desktop
[06:00] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: and it works ok
[06:00] <boune> amarok  needs kde packages but will work in any window manager
[06:01] <eeyore_> TooR4u: sorry libmono-gecko was wrong and i corrected myself with the latter
[06:01] <pegasus> the program is callled beryl
[06:01] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, does it do ipod integration?
[06:01] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: yes
[06:01] <zues_62> whts the link
[06:01] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, and how big is your library?
[06:01] <TooR4u> okkk
[06:01] <boune> zues do you mean gdesklets?
[06:01] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: about 1500 songs
[06:01] <zues_62> what that
[06:01] <montyp> thugren, you could stop gdm loading on boot
[06:01] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: banshee is not good with big libraries. amarok is! very much so
[06:02] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: you can even hook it up to use mysql and get it lightning fast with not much more effort
[06:02] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, why aren't you using it then?
[06:02] <enderxim> what seems to be the prefered gnome mp3 player?
[06:02] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: because it isn't gnome and that means installing an extra 100 mbs of useless stuff. i'm pressed for disk space
[06:02] <zues_62> whats the link for the berry program
[06:02] <Factory> I like exaile
[06:02] <bayzider1> Wow that aucctualy worked.
[06:02] <boune> amarok or xmms are the most popular audio players
[06:03] <bayzider1> I love amarok
[06:03] <Madpilot> enderxim, take your pick. There are about as many 'favourite players' as there are people who play music on Gnome.
[06:03] <TooR4u> eeyore_, yesterday microsoft came to our college & he take 16 students in our college as 'Microsoft student partners'.At that time he gave 2 hour lecture on .net & microsoft products
[06:03] <Madpilot> I like muine, myself
[06:03] <Netham45> my favorite player is Winamp
[06:03] <Hyper-cool> hey we had microsoft come too
[06:03] <zues_62> does anyone know the Berry link
[06:03] <Hyper-cool> it was boring as hell
[06:03] <bayzider1> I recomend amarok, coming from some one with a full video ipod with no videos. =D
[06:03] <eeyore_> haha
[06:03] <enderxim> Madpilot: I hear that. ;-) Was looking for something with the simplicity of xmms but with a few more functions.
[06:03] <montyp> thugren, if you want to do that you could do "update-rc.d gdm remove"
[06:03] <Netham45> except it glitches alot on song change
[06:03] <kbrosnan> bayzider1: wget is an amazing tool for downloading files
[06:04] <bayzider1> truly.
[06:04] <kraypius> i am using amarok for my music player
[06:04] <eeyore_> TooR4u: well what they were talking about is not linux friendly.
[06:04] <Factory> Question: It shows removable drives on my desktop. Is there a way to disable this deature?
[06:04] <bayzider1> I need to read the man wget
[06:04] <eeyore_> TooR4u: they were talking about .NET which is different from what runs here on linux which is called mono
[06:04] <eeyore_> TooR4u: they are two different implementations of the same standard language C#. .NET runs only on windows while mono runs on everything
[06:04] <Netham45> sudo iwlist scan
[06:04] <Netham45> oops
[06:04] <Netham45> wrong window
[06:05] <TooR4u> eeyore_, Yah ...
[06:05] <thugren> montyp, I am trying to get the  Nvidia driver installed.
[06:05] <thugren> :(
[06:05] <Factory> !envy
[06:05] <montyp> thugren, you won't need to disable gdm then
[06:05] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[06:05] <bayzider1> The hell
[06:05] <kraypius> mono is what you get from kissing dirty girls
[06:05] <montyp> thugren, have you installed nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy?
[06:06] <thugren> montyp K.., I have those installed So How do I get them working?
[06:06] <montyp> thugren, you may also need to install the linux-restricted-modules
[06:07] <montyp> thugren, i am guessing this is the problem ... did they restricted modules get installed as well?
[06:07] <montyp> s/they/the
[06:08] <Hyper-cool> is anyone using enlightenment?
[06:08] <enderxim> Is envy recommended? It performs well?
[06:08] <peepsalot> does anyone know how to allow a popups just once in firefox?
[06:09] <buddha> shift?
[06:09] <thugren> montyp k know what? :)
[06:09] <montyp> thugren, what?
[06:10] <TooR4u> eeyore_, can u gimme the URL for that?
[06:10] <TooR4u> eeyore_, i need some basic tutorial
[06:11] <eeyore_> TooR4u: hmm don't think i can help you out there
[06:11] <kbrosnan> peepsalot: there is no default way to do what you want, I suspect there is an extension at https://addons.mozilla.org that does that. irc://irc.mozilla.org/addons or #firefox might be helpful in finding the exact extension
[06:11] <eeyore_> TooR4u: i haven't used gecko at all
[06:11] <montyp> TooR4u, haha, wow if you can't find mono, you probably shouldn't be using it ;)
[06:11] <eeyore_> TooR4u: what do you need it for anyway?
[06:11] <thugren> montyp Okay.. I have those all installed..  I have the nvidia-glx. Because i have a 6800 PCI-e card
[06:11] <montyp> oh, haha i thought he wanted to know where to get mono
[06:11] <eeyore_> TooR4u: there's enough browsers out there that work. don't start another one=)
[06:12] <TooR4u> eeyore_, :p
[06:12] <TooR4u> i am not working with mono
[06:12] <TooR4u> But i know about it
[06:12] <montyp> thugren, did you upgrade recently or anything? When you upgrade the kernel, you have to get the new restricted modules
[06:12] <eeyore_> TooR4u: what do you want to do exactly?
[06:12] <EADG>  /connect irc.torrent-damage.net
[06:13] <Hyper-cool> it's possible to have more than one window manger installed and to switch back and forth right/
[06:13] <montyp> thugren, so get install the new restricted modules, then install nvidia-glx again
[06:13] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: yup. i've done it with beryl and gdm
[06:13] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: oh you mean enlightenment and another?
[06:13] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, are there any walkthrough pages on that? i'd like to get enlightenment
[06:13] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: yeah that's also possible
[06:14] <kaled> hi
[06:14] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: yeah there was a pretty good step-by-step guide i saw on installing E17 on ubuntu
[06:14] <kaled> how to access root login?
[06:14] <kraypius> im lookin in my package manager and I see this 3ddesktop, is it any good?
[06:14] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: google it. should come up
[06:14] <montyp> kaled, short answer - you don't. You use "sudo"
[06:14] <kingcobra> where does this mean
[06:14] <kingcobra> On Linux, the path is usually ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default/
[06:15] <TooR4u> eeyore_, i want to create a browser ....;I know c,c++,.net only
[06:16] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: found this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216
[06:16] <kraypius> anyone use 3ddesktop?
[06:16] <TooR4u> oops eeyore_ soory i know c,c++,python only
[06:16] <montyp> kaled, hmm that's good .. i thought you would ask for the long answer :)
[06:16] <TooR4u> kraypius, yah i am using
[06:16] <eeyore_> TooR4u: creating a web browser is an unimaginable ton of work
[06:16] <eeyore_>  an actual html+javascript+css interpreter
[06:16] <eeyore_>  what that package allows you though is make a mock up browser
[06:16] <eeyore_>  you would still be using firefox
[06:16] <eeyore_>  but it would be up to you how you shape the gui of the program
[06:16] <eeyore_>  and there's actually a package of gecko for c++ too
[06:16] <kaled> im sorry
[06:16] <eeyore_>  possibly even python<
[06:16] <lotusleaf> kraypius, lots of people use Compiz and Beryl
[06:16] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: your home folder, generaly folders starting with . are hidden. you can view the hidden folders by right clicking an empty area of the file browser and choose view hidden files
[06:16] <mattyv> TooR4u: any reason in particular why you want to make your own, rather than perhaps contributing to one of the already open source ones
[06:16] <montyp> TooR4u, you can create a browser in c++ ... in fact, there are tutorials all over the net
[06:17] <kraypius> lotusleaf, Which one seems more usefull to you?
[06:17] <thugren> montyp Okay.. so how do Install it?
[06:17] <kraypius> out of the three
[06:17] <thugren> montyp Okay.. Or does it add it when you select it?
[06:17] <lotusleaf> kraypius, both have their uses
[06:17] <montyp> thugren, um, "apt-get install linux-restricted-modules"
[06:17] <lotusleaf> kraypius, there's also Project Looking Glass
[06:18] <kingcobra> kbrosnan, it does not work i cant view them
[06:18] <TooR4u> okk
[06:18] <thugren> k
[06:18] <mattyv> I might be completely out of the loop but, Compiz for better stability, Beryl for more features...generally
[06:18] <lotusleaf> !plg > kraypius
[06:18] <enderxim> mattyv: that sounds about right.
[06:18] <montyp> mattyv, and Fluxbox FTW!
[06:18] <montyp> ;)
[06:18] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: have you ever launched firefox in linux?
[06:18] <con-man> !
[06:18] <kingcobra> im in it at the moment
[06:18] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[06:19] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:19] <con-man> lololol
[06:19] <mattyv> montyp: 'cmon, metacity is way cooler :P
[06:19] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: are you using ubuntu or one of the vairants like kubuntu?
[06:19] <blanky> !lamp
[06:19] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:19] <kingcobra> ubuntu
[06:19] <kraypius> ahh, mozilla has taken over as the default browser. how do I change it back?
[06:19] <montyp> mattyv, a fluxbox user would call it bloated ;)
[06:20] <con-man> mattyv: beryl ftw imo
[06:20] <mattyv> lol
[06:20] <montyp> beryl ain't winning nothin' at the moment ... soon though, perhaps
[06:20] <mattyv> con-man: I personally can't form an opinion, savage S3 integrated laptop graphics, w00t
[06:20] <zues_62> who can tell me what the link is for the berry project
[06:20] <con-man> beryl=win
[06:20] <con-man> I love it
[06:21] <zues_62> THE LINK
[06:21] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: on the top of the screen there is an item called places click on that and select home
[06:21] <montyp> mattyv, hmm, probably can't play Supreme Commander on that card ;P
[06:21] <jrib> zues_62: http://www.google.com/search?q=beryl
[06:21] <kingcobra> kbrosnan, im there
[06:21] <mattyv> asciijump!!!
[06:22] <montyp> wow, the spoonfeeding is getting even better ... now instead of referring to google, people supply the search URL!
[06:22] <|Jason8|> !mp3
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: in your home folder choose view -> show hidden files, apparently it was removed from the context menu
[06:22] <zues_62> now how easy is this thing to install
[06:22] <zues_62> how easy is berry to install
[06:22] <con-man> zues_62: depends on your system
[06:22] <con-man> zues_62: #beryl
[06:22] <kingcobra> kbrosnan, thanx very much
[06:23] <zues_62> chears
[06:23] <zues_62> is it #berry?
[06:23] <con-man> no
[06:23] <con-man> #beryl
[06:23] <montyp> zues_62, also depends on the user ... if you don't have the motivation to find the link yourself, you may not have the motivation to fight through install/running problems
[06:23] <kalin> #ubuntu-effects
[06:23] <con-man> thats the channel name
[06:23] <zues_62> ty
[06:23] <kalin> does anyone know how i can modify gnome session startup from a shell?
[06:24] <zues_62> excuse me
[06:24] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: the other thing to note is that the files must be replaced when firefox is not running
[06:24] <montyp> kalin, what do you want to modify?
[06:24] <zues_62> motervation i hav that ok
[06:24] <kalin> i'd like to remove a program i added to the session startup
[06:24] <zues_62> i just wanted a wee bit of help this is the help server after all lol
[06:24] <kalin> in this case, beryl-manager, which seems to be freezing my system after a 15sec or so
[06:24] <kingcobra> yes thank you kbrosnan
[06:25] <montyp> kalin, gconf, if it's a gnome session thing
[06:25] <mEck0> If I install an application (.deb file), can I remove it by using "sudo apt-get remove appname" then if I want? or just manually when installing from .deb files?
[06:25] <kalin> thanks!
[06:25] <Megaqwerty> Hi, can someone help me install a driver patch?
[06:26] <Netham45> mabye
[06:26] <Netham45> what's in it for us?
[06:26] <Netham45> :)
[06:26] <Megaqwerty> the satisfaction of knowing you fixed something :)
[06:26] <mobiGeek> Flannel: upgrading to Edgy has been successful....and Apache2/PHP5 are running once again!
[06:26] <kingcobra> how do i create a link to folder
[06:26] <montyp> kalin, or look under System->Preferences->Sessions and look under the startup tab
[06:27] <mobiGeek> ubotu: Flannel++
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flannel++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <Megaqwerty> Netham45: can you help?
[06:27] <kalin> yeah, i've already added beryl-manager to the session startup, and it causes a hang, so i need to remove it without loading desktop environment :)
[06:28] <anolis> Hi, i am  having a problem with my sound can anyone be of assistance to me?
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> !sound
[06:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:28] <anolis> well, i can hear sound, but its as if the sound control thingy doesnt control anything
[06:29] <montyp> anolis, try the PCM or Headphone slider
[06:29] <kingcobra> does anybody know how to create a link to folder
[06:29] <anolis> i have selected each device in the sound control
[06:29] <slavik> kingcobra: man ln :)
[06:29] <anolis> and messed with pcm
[06:29] <anolis> and normal output
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> can anyone here help me install a driver patch?
[06:29] <anolis> i have also tried with alsamixer
[06:29] <kingcobra> slavik how with gui
[06:29] <bonii> !players
[06:29] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:29] <anolis> and the -c option
[06:29] <slavik> kingcobra: beats me :P
[06:30] <bonii> !mp3
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <kingcobra> slavik ok thanx
[06:31] <r4nge> which is the file that lists all the ports and their uses?
[06:31] <jrib> r4nge: /etc/services
[06:31] <montyp> r4nge, /etc/services
[06:31] <montyp> booya
[06:32] <r4nge> :)
[06:32] <ananse> is there an equalizer plug in for rhythmbox?
[06:32] <r4nge> i try to write everything down as i learn it but that one slipped me
[06:33] <slavik> r4nge: write this down: /boot is actually the MBR :)
[06:33] <arrenlex> slavik: ...what?
[06:33] <montyp> r4nge, good move .. I still have notebooks from over 15 years ago when i was learning *nix that i use :)
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> slavik: well, that's not really true.
[06:33] <Megaqwerty> So...can anyone here help me install a driver patch?
[06:33] <slavik> and " the name of the root directory is a null scring"
[06:33] <arrenlex> slavik: /boot is a folder just like any other folder. Grub just happens to read its configuration out of it.
[06:33] <slavik> tonyyarusso: isn't it? it's the first track :P
[06:33] <r4nge> montyp: yeah too much going on to think i can remember evrything without writing stuff down
[06:33] <slavik> arrenlex: how can grub read something that isn't mounted?
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> slavik: The MBR just says where /boot is, and how to look at it, but /boot isn't the MBR itself.
[06:34] <dougie> where can you search for packages on apt-get
[06:34] <arrenlex> dougie: apt-cache search <keywords>
[06:34] <kingcobra> hard link not allowed for directory
[06:34] <dougie> ok thanks
[06:34] <slavik> tonyyarusso: so, where is /boot located? my emphasis is that it is not exactly part of the / filesystem
[06:34] <slavik> kingcobra: ln -s :)
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> slavik: it is too part of / - how would it not be?
[06:34] <arrenlex> slavik: Sure it is...
[06:35] <bikini> how do i change the size of my icons on the desktop? they're enormous.
[06:35] <kingcobra> slavik, thanx
[06:35] <montyp> dougie, although, i can look nicer with "aptitude search <keywords>" :)
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Mine's on a separate partition, but it doesn't need to be at all
[06:35] <dougie> why does it look better?
[06:35] <slavik> montyp: why aptitude, why not apt-cache search?
[06:35] <arrenlex> dougie: what montyp suggests searches only for packages whose names match keyword. My command searches for packages whose descriptions match keyword.
[06:36] <montyp> sladen, as i said, looks nicer .. and arrenlex is correct
[06:36] <slavik> tonyyarusso: how can grub read the config file if there is no file system mounted?
[06:36] <slavik> tonyyarusso: are you saying that grub reads the hdd directly?
[06:36] <arrenlex> dougie: Oh... I think they're referring to the fact that aptitude search formats its results into columns. But you get less results.
[06:36] <slavik> block by block?
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> slavik: yes
[06:37] <dumezil_> how do i update the font database after manually adding some fonts?
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> slavik: No, it figures out the filesystem I think, but it operates by hardware location, not mount point
[06:37] <jrib> dumezil_: fc-cache
[06:37] <dumezil_> thx
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> slavik: (hence not being able to put /boot on certain types of filesystems - grub only understands some)
[06:37] <bhavi> my open gpg keys have been confirmed.. How to decrypt?
[06:38] <jrib> !gpg | bhavi
[06:38] <ubotu> bhavi: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> bhavi: Seahorse makes it uber easy, btw.
[06:38] <__Krush> Hi Guys, can anyone give me some cues to getting DVB sorted on ubuntu?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> bhavi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts, class #8
[06:38] <slavik> tonyyarusso: but why not just put grub and all of its stuff in the first track of an hdd, since the first track is unused (besides the first block) anyway ...
[06:38] <PingFloyd> that's where the stage1_5 files come in iirc
[06:38] <slavik> should be enough space for grub there
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> slavik: It depends.  (and is being discussed by the powers that be)
[06:39] <arrenlex> slavik: The kernels also live in /boot.
[06:39] <slavik> arrenlex: not all kernels ...
[06:39] <PingFloyd> slavik: why change it?  It works great now
[06:40] <slavik> PingFloyd: waste less space? :P
[06:40] <slavik> PingFloyd: this is one of the things that I think would be better by changing them, although it is not always the case ...
[06:40] <__Krush> DVB??
[06:40] <PingFloyd> slavik: if grub is a space issue, there's a bigger issue :P
[06:41] <slavik> also, why does grub need the chainloader +1 for windows? doesn't grub just exec the kernel/loader?
[06:41] <slavik> PingFloyd: good point
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> slavik: b/c windows boot is weird?
[06:41] <PingFloyd> slavik: I think the chainloader just passes onto the VBR
[06:41] <mEck0> have you guys seen the facelift of ubuntu.com? I really like the new design of the site
[06:42] <slavik> tonyyarusso: besides the obvious things ...
[06:42] <slavik> so, it relocates the windows boot loader?
[06:42] <robby> anybody know how to connect to a wireless connection protected by wap?
[06:42] <slavik> wait, it does ...
[06:42] <PingFloyd> slavik: not really
[06:42] <slavik> doesn't it?
[06:42] <robby> i would like a person on person walkthrough
[06:42] <Netham45> robby: do you mean WEP or WPA?
[06:42] <Madpilot> mEck0, yeah, some nice function changes too - the whole download setup has been redone
[06:42] <robby> wpa
[06:42] <robby> sry
[06:42] <slavik> hmm, on my system grub and win are on diff physical hdds ...
[06:43] <PingFloyd> slavik: with windows part of it's bootloader is in the VBR and MBR is a system that say used only windows, but in the case of grub, just the code in the VBR is ran
[06:43] <mEck0> Madpilot, aha, thats nice
[06:43] <PingFloyd> slavik: grub handles the MBR aspect
[06:43] <tritoch> !wpa | robby
[06:43] <ubotu> robby: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:43] <amar> !mount
[06:43] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:43] <kraypius> Gah! all the 3d desktop environments look so fun and I know i can only have one
[06:43] <slavik> PingFloyd: when pressing F8 during windows boot, the menu given, is that the loader from vbr or mbr?
[06:44] <amar> !mounting windows partition
[06:44] <robby> those dont really help me to much i dont understand much about how to do that stuff
[06:44] <robby> so i need some person on person
[06:44] <PingFloyd> slavik: not sure off hand
[06:44] <montyp> slavik, if all else fails, you can check out the GAG bootloader
[06:44] <nol13> hi, anyone have any experience burning .mp4 files in linux?
[06:44] <slavik> montyp: I don't like the name of that ...
[06:44] <amar> !mount windows partition
[06:44] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB
[06:44] <nol13> sorry, i mean .m4a
[06:45] <PingFloyd> slavik: this explains it better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntldr
[06:45] <montyp> slavik, yeah, grub sounds much better
[06:45] <montyp> slavik, but anyway, it's solved a lot of people's problems
[06:45] <bikini> anyone know how to change the size of desktop icons?
[06:46] <art2k2> yeah those icons are humongous!
[06:46] <slavik> bikini: right click and select change size or whatever option it is
[06:46] <mattyv> Stretch
[06:46] <slavik> yeah, that
[06:46] <slavik> mattyv: ty
[06:47] <slavik> shouldn't 'smart' boot loaders just be in the BIOS? make things easier ...
[06:47] <bikini> slavik: i'd have to do that with every single one of them though.
[06:47] <slavik> just stick grub into BIOS and you're done :D
[06:48] <slavik> bikini: otherwise, learn a bit of scripting and how to use imagemagick :)
[06:48] <slavik> that will allow you to resize all pictures in a dir to whatever size you want :)
[06:48] <nol13> cana i burn .m4a files?
[06:48] <art2k2> is there a console irc program?
[06:48] <arrenlex> !irssi | art2k2
[06:49] <Alma_Negro> Hello.
[06:49] <ubotu> art2k2: irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[06:49] <nol13> art2k2: yes
[06:49] <art2k2> thank you
[06:49] <Netham45> !irc
[06:49] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[06:49] <amar> can anyone help me to mount windows partition
[06:49] <Netham45> ooh!
[06:49] <Netham45> clients!
[06:49] <slavik> !ntfs-3g
[06:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:49] <art2k2> how about changing the resolution and font of the console?
[06:50] <crdlb> art2k2, you need to enable the framebuffer
[06:50] <crdlb> !framebuffer
[06:50] <bulmer> got a working freenx installation ? can you give some pointers on how this thing is done right? confusing as heck to get it working not really understanding which key and user do which
[06:50] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[06:50] <montyp> amar, what sort of partition? NTFS or FAT?
[06:50] <amar> both FAT n NTFS......
[06:50] <Alma_Negro> art2k2: in grub add vga=7xx
[06:50] <jarrad> Does anyone know where I can change the keybinding that is set to restart x and others
[06:50] <amar> montyp:i'm experiencing some weird problem
[06:50] <montyp> amar, for the NTFS install ntfs-config
[06:50] <aedes> has anyone gotten lvm working?
[06:51] <montyp> amar, which will give you ntfs-3g, as suggested
[06:51] <art2k2> thank you crdlb and Alma_Negro
[06:51] <art2k2> thank you arrenlex
[06:51] <amar> montyp: i used the commands given in official ubuntu guide to mount FAT partition........ but same drive will be mounted repeatedly
[06:51] <arrenlex> yw
[06:52] <nol13> how do i hack into peoples computers?
[06:52] <amar> montyp: i mean all drives contain the same folders...... even though i mount different drives
[06:52] <montyp> amar, are you mounting these different drives on different mount points?
[06:53] <amar> no....... i'm using /media/windows to all the drives
[06:53] <slavik> http://www.bash.org/?737693
[06:53] <amar> montyp:no....... i'm using /media/windows to all the drives
[06:53] <montyp> amar, you have to mount each partition on a different mount point
[06:53] <bonii> I am facing a key problem with Dapper. I have got an English US keyboard layout set and all keys work fine but the problem is whenever I press the caps lock although caps lock works but it gives me an error message saying Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-Devil's--Temple/0/numlock_on": `'' is an invalid character in key/directory names...... cAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[06:54] <robby> anybody know how to connect to wpa wireless network?
[06:54] <amar> montyp, but in dat documentation they have mounted all the drives in same point
[06:54] <nol13> any of you guys seen the phish brooklyn dvd?
[06:54] <montyp> amar, well, if that is actually what the doc says, it is wrong. You would just keep mounting over the previous mount
[06:55] <kalin> does anyone know a good standardish resource for keyboard shortcuts for gnome?
[06:55] <amar> montyp, thank u very much, i will try with different mounting points
[06:55] <bonii> I am facing a key problem with Dapper. I have got an English US keyboard layout set and all keys work fine but the problem is whenever I press the caps lock although caps lock works but it gives me an error message saying Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-Devil's--Temple/0/numlock_on": `'' is an invalid character in key/directory names...... cAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[06:55] <montyp> amar, so make mount points for each of the partitions (use "sudo fdisk -l" if you need to see them), then mount them ("sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows" for example)
[06:56] <nol13> kalin: try: F1 - F12, and cntrl
[06:56] <montyp> amar, cool, you may have better luck :)
[06:56] <robby> anybody know how to connect to wpa wireless network?
[06:56] <nol13> robby: yes
[06:57] <amar> montyp, so to mount another drive shld i use mounting point as /mnt/windows2
[06:57] <robby> nol13 would you mind walking me through it please?
[06:57] <bikini> where is the xorg.conf file?
[06:57] <bonii> I am facing a key problem with Dapper. I have got an English US keyboard layout set and all keys work fine but the problem is whenever I press the caps lock although caps lock works but it gives me an error message saying Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-Devil's--Temple/0/numlock_on": `'' is an invalid character in key/directory names...... cAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[06:57] <montyp> amar, yeah
[06:57] <arrenlex> !repeat | bonii
[06:57] <ubotu> bonii: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:57] <amar> montyp, thanx :-)
[06:57] <nol13> robby: what kind of card do you have
[06:58] <montyp> amar, and remember if you want to read/write to NTFS partitions to do "sudo apt-get install ntfs-config" , then when it's installed "gksu ntfs-config"
[06:58] <robby> nol13 idk
[06:58] <art2k2>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:58] <r4nge> does cron.hourly send a report back to root?  run-parts --report?  and would that mean an email to root
[06:58] <bonii> !patience
[06:58] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:58] <montyp> it's true. I only help people with bad attitudes
[06:59] <nol13> robby: what does the "lspci" command give you under "network controller"
[06:59] <sid> The step 5(migration) just does nothing on the latest Feisty build while installing. How can I skip it?
[06:59] <sid> I can do steps 1 through 4 fine, step 5(migration) just has the time come on forever, and I can't click Forward... it's faded out)
[07:00] <CoRnJuLiOx> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/teh_sAbEr/CIMG2030.jpg, http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/teh_sAbEr/CIMG2029.jpg <-- could someone take a look at those? i just burned the ubuntu 6.10 release onto a CD, and whenever i try to 'start or install ubuntu' it ends up like that
[07:00] <sid> the hour glass thingy
[07:00] <CoRnJuLiOx> this is the second CD thats done this to me
[07:01] <CoRnJuLiOx> i burned this one at the slowest setting possible
[07:01] <robby> nol13  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[07:01] <mattyv> Anybody know if it's possible to remove something (file/folder) from your Tracker database once it's already been "tracked"?
[07:01] <CoRnJuLiOx> i ran md5sum on the ISO and it seems fine
[07:02] <sid> ubiquity --desktop %k gtkui --no-migration-assistant
[07:02] <sid> that works, nevermind
[07:02] <Coffeegrindah> I'm trying to mount a squashfs but keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10851/
[07:02] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: Do you know how to change boot options? Like nolapic etc
[07:03] <CoRnJuLiOx> nope
[07:03] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: ^
[07:04] <mEck0> is there a mindmapping app for gnome?
[07:04] <bonii> I am facing a key problem with Dapper. I have got an English US keyboard layout set and all keys work fine but the problem is whenever I press the caps lock although caps lock works but it gives me an error message saying Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-Devil's--Temple/0/numlock_on": `'' is an invalid character in key/directory names...... cAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[07:04] <nol13> robby: try this maybe, http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html   goodluck, hold on though
[07:05] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: Alright, you know when you get the livecd screen where it says, install ubuntu, start in safe graphics mode etc?
[07:05] <CoRnJuLiOx> yeah
[07:05] <CoRnJuLiOx> safe gfx mode doesn't work either, btw
[07:06] <nol13> how do i burn .m4a files?
[07:07] <Angelus> hi there, was wondering, I need to download a file to use with Ubuntu to use my work's system
[07:07] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: That's ok, at that screen press F6, this gives you a line of options down the bottom, ending with quiet splash...correct?
[07:07] <Jabberman> Can anyone tell me how do install WinXp over the WindowsXPPRO.vmx?
[07:07] <Angelus> it's called MetaFrame Presentation Server Client for Linux x86, I was wondering do I download the x86 version or the ARM version?
[07:07] <nol13> Angelus: msybe
[07:07] <kraypius> is it true that only certain programs will work with project looking glass? should I not install it? i was reading that it is much more innovative than beryl and others but I dont want it if I cant use my apps
[07:08] <CoRnJuLiOx> dunno, i'd need to restart this computer to see it. (don't have another PC i can use).
[07:08] <Jabberman> Vmware anyone?
[07:08] <Angelus> it's a secure citrix thing, I don't understand!
[07:09] <nol13> Angelus: first you need to figure out who YOU are, x86, or ARM. The answer lies within.
[07:09] <Angelus> what's the difference?
[07:09] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: ALright, when you get there, after "ro" but before quiet, add the code acpi=off, then boot
[07:09] <Jabberman> Anyone help/
[07:09] <Jabberman> ?
[07:10] <nol13> Angelus: what is the same?
[07:10] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: isn't acpi that power management thing? why would it cause a kernel panic?
[07:10] <Angelus> that's not very helpful nol13!
[07:10] <Angelus> I'm new to this stuff and I like using it!
[07:11] <Angelus> but like I said I'm NEW
[07:11] <Bohica032> how do i add a new HDD?
[07:11] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: The last thing before your panic seems to be acpi related, I know for a fact that sometimes the acpi impementation is broken, i need that option for mine to boot. Your fans and stuff still work
[07:12] <nol13> Angelus: but what is it not helpfull with? ya know?
[07:12] <CoRnJuLiOx> hmm. alright, i'll try it out right now and get back to you.
[07:12] <matrix> how change the icon on the menu the gnome?
[07:12] <nol13> Angelus: i am sorry, i do know the path to your quest
[07:12] <Angelus> ok, let me ask again. What is the difference between 86 and ARM?
[07:13] <mirra> anyone have any idea as to why, after allowing ALL udp traffic through iptables, that pinging domain names, or any domain resolves, will not work
[07:13] <mirra> ??
[07:13] <Bohica032> I got 2 HDD, a 20GB and 40GB.  I want the 20 GB to be the primary and 40 additional.  Pain in the neck to set it that way....HELP
[07:14] <montyp> Angelus, um, they are different architectures ...
[07:14] <montyp> mirra, do you have nameservers in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:14] <mirra> yes
[07:15] <Angelus> montyp, ok cool, I'm getting somewhere but now, further from this, I need to download a file from my work's website so I can use their server
[07:15] <mirra> it works fine when i accept all incoming
[07:15] <montyp> mirra, and you can ping those nameservers by ip?
[07:15] <kalin> nol13, i've found basic commands, i wanted to find an extensive list though. i only used a mouse in windows on a rare occasion and would like to keep the usage down in ubuntu also
[07:15] <mirra> right now its default drop
[07:15] <snaidis> Where do wine installs itself?
[07:15] <Angelus> montyp, I guess I need to know how to install the file they are asking me to install!???
[07:15] <PingFloyd> you can talk shit about linus thouhg
[07:15] <Bohica032> wow tough crowd
[07:15] <nol13> Angelus: A-1 + R-18 + M-13 = 32    86 - 32 = 54
[07:16] <snaidis> Where does wine install itself?
[07:16] <mirra> montyp, no I cant, thats what I dont understand
[07:16] <lotusleaf> !language > PingFloyd
[07:16] <montyp> mirra, hmm, can you ping your router (if you are using one)?
[07:16] <mirra> i used tcpdump to monitor udp port 53 while i pinged and thats where the traffic is
[07:16] <mirra> its a VPS server, so I am not sure
[07:16] <S0crates> Synaptic is complaining about a bad dependency.  How do I fix it?
[07:16] <montyp> Angelus, i don't really know what you are asking
[07:16] <mirra> but once i accept all income it works fine
[07:16] <Angelus> nol13, I don't know what you are saying and you're not helpful
[07:16] <snaidis> Anyone know?
[07:16] <Priest-of-Psi> why does my pc lock up once I access my webcam?
[07:16] <snaidis> Where do wine installs itself?
[07:16] <Madpilot> S0crates, got any unofficial repos installed?
[07:16] <montyp> mirra, because maybe the router isn't routing back to you
[07:17] <S0crates> Madpilot, No, just the default ones
[07:17] <mirra> montyp, it works fine though once I accept all though
[07:17] <montyp> mirra, it sounds like a rule ordering problem in iptables then
[07:17] <Angelus> is anyone familiar with Citrix ICA Client for Unix Version 9???
[07:17] <S0crates> Here's the error" libgnomevfs2-0: Depends: libgnomevfs2-common (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.16.1-0ubuntu7 is to be installed"
[07:17] <tritoch> Angelus: what kind of processor do you have
[07:17] <snaidis> ?
[07:17] <mirra> montyp, the udp stuff is first
[07:18] <Madpilot> S0crates, could you pastebin your sources.list for me?
[07:18] <mirra> montyp, and I tried it as last too
[07:18] <dougie> ok i just used alien to convert limewire.rpm to a deb file and installed it but it wont run
[07:18] <snaidis> Where does wine install itself?
[07:18] <Angelus> Triroch, I have a centrino
[07:18] <S0crates> Madpilot, sure, just a second
[07:18] <tritoch> its x86
[07:18] <montyp> mirra, and do you have "related" and "established" rules?
[07:18] <Madpilot> snaidis, ~/.wine
[07:18] <Angelus> thank you tritoch!
[07:18] <snaidis> I cant find it there
[07:18] <mirra> montyp, no..i thought allowing all incoming UDP (just to test) would have no problem
[07:18] <nol13> kalin: im not really to experienced in your problem, but the people who say that you dont need to use a command line in linux are dirty liars, sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet, most things you need are on google though.
[07:19] <snaidis> I installed it by sudo aptitude install wine
[07:19] <snaidis> and it is not there...
[07:19] <mirra> montyp, what rules should I use for dns then
[07:19] <montyp> mirra, i'll pm you and talk
[07:19] <mirra> ok
[07:19] <nospi> hey
[07:19] <mirra> thx
[07:20] <McQueen> hi, what is the best movie editor for ubuntu 6.10?
[07:20] <robby> ok im still having problems connecting wirelessly
[07:20] <snaidis> Madpilot, it is not there, I installed it by sudo aptitude install wine
[07:20] <montyp> mirra, um, are you registered? I'm talkiing to you in pm :)
[07:21] <McQueen> can you help me?
[07:21] <Madpilot> snaidis, .wine is where wine installs the Windows apps - wine itself is whereever it needs to be, I've no idea where it is.
[07:21] <mirra> montyp, hey sorry
[07:21] <mirra> montyp, i am not registered
[07:21] <mirra> montyp, can you give me a minute??
[07:21] <montyp> mirra, ok. To register: /msg nickserv register <passwd>
[07:22] <mirra> i need to change names..this is reg'ed...one sec
[07:22] <montyp> mirra, you may have to change your nick, if someone else has registered it ( they proabbly have)
[07:22] <nospi> im using the KDE desktop, how do i change the desktop settings so i have to double click to run files instead of single click?
[07:22] <montyp> :)
[07:22] <nol13> kalin: try: sorry, didnt mean to confuse you, for i am confused, ya see?
[07:22] <snaidis> Madpilot, but there should be a wine folder at Home, why isn't it there?
[07:22] <elliottcable> HOLY SHIT there are a lot of users in here
[07:22] <lotusleaf> snaidis, open up Synaptic and search for wine, then highlight it/select it and click the tab which says 'installed files' for locations of installed files (minus the Windows programs you've installed which are in ~/.wine)
[07:22] <dougie> can anyone help with limewire install?
[07:22] <lotusleaf> !language | elliottcable
[07:22] <ubotu> elliottcable: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:22] <nol13> robby: follow the white rabbit
[07:22] <McQueen> what is the best movie editor for ubuntu
[07:22] <McQueen> ?
[07:22] <Madpilot> snaidis, it'll be created when you first install something via wine
[07:22] <robby> anybody know how to connect to wpa wireless network?
[07:23] <omkar86> hi is there any word-list vocabulary building software in gnome?
[07:23] <snaidis> Ah ok..
[07:23] <lotusleaf> snaidis, see also #winehq
[07:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, paste > S0crates
[07:23] <S0crates> robby, You need to work with wpa_supplicant.  Check it out
[07:23] <nospi> !paste | S0crates
[07:23] <ubotu> S0crates: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:23] <robby> i ahve all the wireless programs i can find and i dont know how to use them to connect
[07:23] <kingcobra> why is video playback jittery on my comp in ubuntu
[07:23] <Priest-of-Psi> why is kubuntu a dvd
[07:23] <nospi> Madpilot, is that how you do it? or is the > personal?
[07:23] <Priest-of-Psi> and ubuntu a cd?
[07:24] <Madpilot> nospi, the > made the bot PM S0crates
[07:24] <lotusleaf> Priest-of-Psi, kubuntu is available as a CD ISO and DVD ISO
[07:24] <Madpilot> Priest-of-Psi, there are CD & DVDs for both
[07:24] <nospi> Madpilot, oh ok, and the | is the whole channel?
[07:24] <Madpilot> nospi, yes
[07:24] <nospi> Madpilot, ok, thanks
[07:24] <lotusleaf> Priest-of-Psi, see also #kubuntu
[07:24] <S0crates> Madpilot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10852/
[07:24] <Madpilot> nospi, actually, kind of. the | is to stick someone's nick in front of the bot's tell
[07:25] <montyp> !pastebin
[07:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:25] <nol13> Priest-of-Psi: do you have ubuntu running right now?
[07:25] <nospi> Madpilot, yeah, so they know it's talking to them
[07:25] <mattyv> Anybody know if it's possible to remove something (file/folder) from your Tracker database once it's already been "tracked"? I've blacklisted it in the config file but it was already tracked earlier
[07:25] <Madpilot> nospi, yes
[07:25] <nospi> Madpilot, i see
[07:25] <robby> i ahve all the wireless programs i can find and i dont know how to use them to connect to wpa, could somebody please tell me how?
[07:25] <Flannel> !wifi | robby
[07:25] <ubotu> robby: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:26] <nospi> Madpilot, do you know how to install themes to use with the KDE desktop?
[07:26] <Priest-of-Psi> hmmm
[07:26] <nospi> Madpilot, i downloaded some
[07:26] <Priest-of-Psi> I am moving to KDE :D
[07:26] <magic_ninja> is there a way to update to the latest wine without updating everything else
[07:26] <S0crates> How does one go about installing packages from different releases of Ubuntu?
[07:26] <Madpilot> S0crates, your sources.list is a bit messed up. you're missing at least a few standard repos there. Use the source-o-matic thing to rebuild them
[07:26] <Flannel> S0crates: you don't
[07:26] <magic_ninja> i'm using .22 and i wanna use the latest with no cvs
[07:26] <nol13> mattyp: is your internet running right now?
[07:26] <robby> ubotu that doesnt help me much you tryed helping me yesteday and i couldnt figure out what to do
[07:26] <Madpilot> nospi, I'm a Gnome victim, never been afflicted w/ KDE
[07:26] <shatrat> magic_ninja, you mean 9.33?
[07:26] <magic_ninja> shatrat: no i mean 0.9.33
[07:27] <nospi> Madpilot, i just installed it to see what i like better, but KDE is a bit more professional, gnome is easier i think
[07:27] <lotusleaf> nospi, see #kubuntu
[07:27] <nospi> Madpilot, might stick with gnome for a while
[07:27] <shatrat> magic_ninja, well, you can get up to 0.9.32 by using the wine.budgetdedicated repository. if you want 33 youll need to compile it as far as I know.
[07:27] <nospi> lotusleaf, thanks
[07:27] <lotusleaf> nospi, yw :)
[07:27] <S0crates> Flannel, Interesting.  I would like to install a different version of Anjuta than what is in the Edgy tree,  So It isn't possible to retro back to an older version?
[07:27] <mattyv> nol13: were you talking to me?
[07:27] <Flannel> S0crates: Sure, but not using the Feisty repositories
[07:27] <robby> i ahve all the wireless programs i can find and i dont know how to use them to connect to wpa, could somebody please tell me how? can somebody other than a bot help me please
[07:27] <Madpilot> S0crates, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic to rebuild your sources.list
[07:27] <Flannel> !prevu | S0crates
[07:27] <ubotu> S0crates: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[07:27] <kingcobra> does anybody know why video playback could be jittery
[07:27] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: nope, didnt work.
[07:28] <omkar86> can someone point me to list of keyboard shortcuts for gnome?
[07:28] <nol13> mattyv: ya, my bbad
[07:28] <mattie10> I'm running the live disc.. I'm in shell right now, how do I shut down?!?!
[07:28] <Flannel> S0crates: but, do what Madpilot is recommending, since your current setup is rather... disturbing
[07:28] <lotusleaf> magic_ninja, see #winehq for wine related chat, also, re: the budgetdedicated repo, unless you want to compile, .33 should be available within a few days or so
[07:28] <Flannel> mattie10: sudo shutdown -h now
[07:28] <nol13> mattyv: ya, is it running?
[07:28] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: Was worth a try, not sure what else to try
[07:28] <Madpilot> S0crates, you're missing edgy-updates and at least a few of the -security repos from that list you pasted. Easiest is to rebuild it.
[07:28] <Welfaric> Hi, I tried to add the Ubantu restricted  extras thru add and remove and I have the CD I loaded Ubantu 7.04 with in the CD drive, but it keeps asking for the CD
[07:28] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: i hit f6, moved the cursor over to between 'rw' and 'quiet splash --' and typed in 'acpi=off' and then hit enter. was i right?
[07:28] <Angelus> how do you copy something to a directory
[07:28] <mattyv> nol13: On the previous kernel it is
[07:28] <Angelus> ?
[07:29] <Flannel> Welfaric: You'll need to remove the CD from your repositories.
[07:29] <Angelus> I mean I want to copy some files from one directory to another
[07:29] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: did you use the "" or not? You need to do it without
[07:29] <nol13> mattyv: on the previous kernel, you better go cath it!!!!!!!!!!!1   ahahahaahahhahahahaahahahahahahahhahahaahahhaa
[07:29] <shatrat> Welfaric, you shouldnt be using 7.04
[07:29] <mattyv> ugh that was bad
[07:29] <Welfaric> Right shatrat but I am
[07:29] <magic_ninja> lotusleaf: winehq referred me here to ask about the packaged version, they only support source as far as installation goes
[07:29] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: i didn't use "".
[07:29] <CyberCod> whats the syntax for using the "grub-install" command to install grub to hda when used in a script?
[07:30] <nol13> mattyv: ugh u smell bad
[07:30] <Flannel> !grub | CyberCod, first link
[07:30] <ubotu> CyberCod, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:30] <shatrat> Welfaric, dev releases are for people who answer questions, not ask them
[07:30] <Flannel> shatrat, No need to be so hostile.
[07:30] <kingcobra> flannel yes there is
[07:30] <LaNCeloT_RW-out> dudes, i have beryl installed, and all the windows that are opened, start minimized... i couldnt find where to fix it.. anyone knows?
[07:31] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: alright, only other boot options I can think of that might help are noapic nolapic, if those don't work I have no idea
[07:31] <Flannel> LaNCeloT_RW-out: #ubuntu-effects
[07:31] <shatrat> Flannel, im not being hostel, just pointing out that it's not appropriate to ask questions about dev. stuff in here.
[07:31] <lotusleaf> magic_ninja, correct, just sit tight (unless you want to build it yourself) and it should be updated within a few days. Sometimes it takes a few days or a week or two and other times it's released with a day, it just depends on the maintainer
[07:31] <Welfaric> shatrat, that is wrong, except my question is not a dev level question, is that what you mean
[07:31] <mattyv> nol13: was there any point to your posts?
[07:31] <Flannel> shatrat: his question isn't specific to Feisty.
[07:31] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: and do i need to place these somewhere specific in the boot options menu?
[07:31] <LaNCeloT_RW-out> Flannel, yeah, i know that channel, but there's no one there right now =/
[07:31] <magic_ninja> lotusleaf: ty
[07:31] <snaidis> Madpilot, Do you know ho to install ventrilo by wine?
[07:32] <lotusleaf> magic_ninja, yw :)
[07:32] <Flannel> Welfaric: like I said, remove the CD from your repositories.  If you can't do it from the source properties thing, you can just comment it out (#) in your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[07:32] <S0crates> Madpilot, The source-o-matic worked well.  Thanks man!
[07:32] <Madpilot> snaidis, no idea, I've used wine exactly once, and it failed to install anything that time...
[07:32] <S0crates> It's amazing how simple that was.  woot
[07:32] <Flannel> LaNCeloT_RW-out: then try #beryl
[07:32] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: Not really afaik, I just generally do it before the quiet splash because i know it works there
[07:32] <snaidis> oh
[07:32] <Welfaric> Thank you Flannel
[07:32] <Madpilot> S0crates, np. Anytime someone says "apt-get is complaining about depends" the answer is almost always messed up sources..
[07:32] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: ok, thanks.
[07:33] <snaidis> Madpilot,there is a tutorial, but there you sould get into ~/.wine but I cant...
[07:33] <kingcobra> flannel it sounded like it was a feisty prob he was havin dats y i thot he was out of order
[07:33] <nol13> mattyv: the point to my posts is as sharp as the scoundrel tounge
[07:33] <snaidis> Madpilot,there is no such afolder...
[07:33] <Madpilot> snaidis, in Ubuntu's file manager, use Ctrl+H to show hidden files
[07:33] <snaidis> I know
[07:33] <Angelus> I'm being asked to install something to this directory (/usr/lib/ICAClient), but I want to copy the files into that directory, how do I do that???
[07:34] <snaidis> Madpilot,I know but it isn't there...
[07:34] <nol13> mattyv: ponder my words and think of the sum
[07:34] <Madpilot> snaidis, dotfiles are only created after the app has run for the first time. if you've never run wine, .wine won't exist
[07:34] <snaidis> Madpilot,because I'v never installed anything by wine yet
[07:34] <infidel> Angelus, sudo?
[07:35] <Madpilot> snaidis, you can create it, it won't be destroyed when you do first run wine
[07:35] <Bohica032> can someone help me with my HDD delema
[07:35] <Angelus> is there a beginners forum???
[07:35] <Bohica032> I wish there was
[07:35] <infidel> this is
[07:35] <Bohica032> lol
[07:35] <snaidis> Madpilot,So what can I install for the first time?
[07:35] <Angelus> well me too i feel so stupid in heree
[07:36] <Bohica032> same here
[07:36] <Madpilot> snaidis, anything - or you can just create .wine manually, and wine will use it
[07:36] <snaidis> Madpilot,something small and something which i can install by I line
[07:36] <infidel> state the full problem
[07:36] <snaidis> yes but I have to see the files there
[07:36] <nol13> how do i stop the nsa from tracking me?
[07:36] <Bohica032> I even tried following the forum, but that is pain in the neck as well
[07:36] <kingcobra> why is video playback jittery on my comp in ubuntu
[07:36] <snaidis> Madpilot,yes but I have to see the files there
[07:37] <kingcobra> does anybody know why video playback could be jittery
[07:37] <shatrat> kingcobra, do you have video card drivers installed?
[07:37] <Angelus> whats your problem Bohica032?
[07:37] <Bohica032> I got 20Gig and 40Gig HDD
[07:37] <Madpilot> snaidis, I've no idea what you should install - like I said, I've used wine exactly once
[07:37] <Bohica032> I want the 20 to be primary and 40 secondary
[07:37] <nol13> kingcobra: have you made sure that your monitor is securely held in place?
[07:37] <kingcobra> shatrat, i think they are installed automatically
[07:37] <Angelus> maybe we should go back to Windows!!
[07:38] <Bohica032> I can't mount the 40, an if i manage than I cant write to it
[07:38] <kingcobra> nol13, monitors fine
[07:38] <snaidis> Madpilot,OK :) thanks anyway!
[07:38] <shatrat> kingcobra, what card do you have? does "glxinfo | grep rendering" say yes?
[07:38] <kingcobra> ati radeon 9200
[07:38] <nol13> kingcobra: any recent earthquakes?
[07:38] <kingcobra> 1 sec
[07:38] <kingcobra> nol13, no :)
[07:38] <Bohica032> it's a lot different with linux
[07:38] <Angelus> Bohica032, i have no idea to help you but there could be a program you can download to do that, if you search the add/remove thing
[07:39] <Bohica032> THIS IS PAIN IN THE A$$.....AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
[07:39] <infidel> Bohica032, ntfs?
[07:39] <kingcobra> shatrat, direct rendering: Yes
[07:39] <gudneo> Hi .. My name is Neo. This is my first time in IRC. I was fedora user before. I just tried ubuntu edgy live cd 1 month b4 and instantly fell in love with it.
[07:40] <shatrat> kingcobra, is it all video or just some files? DVDs?
[07:40] <nol13> Bohica032: yup, honestly osx is alot better
[07:40] <kingcobra> shatrat, all video
[07:40] <Bohica032> it use to be NTFS.  i managed for format it, but I cant write to it
[07:40] <gudneo> Now I am using ubuntu only ... No XP, No Fedora ... only ubuntu ...
[07:40] <cables> gudneo, APT is great, huh?
[07:40] <Bohica032> OSX ROCKS
[07:40] <shatrat> kingcobra, what are you using as a player?
[07:40] <gudneo> cables - Yes ... Fantastic ...
[07:41] <Bohica032> I got this old PC use to be XP, but I want to change it to a web server.
[07:41] <cables> gudneo, do you have any problems with it?
[07:41] <Angelus> Bohica032, I wish I could help mate! I have no idea how do fix your problem
[07:41] <kingcobra> shatrat, totem movie player
[07:41] <infidel> Bohica032, what does ls -l say?
[07:41] <goodwill> I am installing ubuntu on one computer and planning to move the harddrive to a diffrent system (both pentiums, but diffeent mobo's, nics and such). Will I need to rerun hardware detection?
[07:41] <kingcobra> shatrat, default in ubuntu
[07:41] <infidel> Bohica032, what does fdisk -l say?
[07:41] <tovella> cables: ...apt is great... part of why i abandoned redhat/fedora
[07:42] <PingFloyd> aptitude is better
[07:42] <Bohica032> huh?
[07:42] <gudneo> But I am having some problems ... since i used only redhat based distros ... But learning and improving
[07:42] <Bohica032> fdisk what?
[07:42] <cables> gudneo, anything we could help you with?
[07:42] <supaneko> Hello there.
[07:42] <Bohica032> I see it uder the Computer - File Browser
[07:42] <Angelus> how do you change permissions on a directory?
[07:42] <cables> Bohica032, copy/paste the command to terminal
[07:42] <supaneko> I am wondering if there is a package called "ibm-buttons" and if there is, where and how I download and install it.
[07:42] <cables> Bohica032, paste with ctrl-shift-v
[07:43] <tom47> !chown > Angelus
[07:43] <cables> Bohica032, then paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:43] <Bohica032> when I check properties it's read only and it will not allow me to change it
[07:43] <Priest-of-Psi> kde is actually neat
[07:43] <Priest-of-Psi> abit bloated
[07:43] <gudneo> Could I tell my problem here ... does it make you all angry ... because I am seeing a lot of chats going on .. ;)
[07:43] <NETWizz> Is Ubuntu better than Windows 98?
[07:43] <Priest-of-Psi> but its way ahead of gnome
[07:43] <cables> gudneo, go ahead, that's what this channel is for
[07:43] <cables> NETWizz, it's better than XP!
[07:43] <shatrat> kingcobra, well, totem doesnt have too many options.  If you try gmplayer you should be able to change the the video output settings around, try xv and gl and some other stuff and see if any of those play more smoothly
[07:43] <cables> Bohica032, do you know how to open a terminal?
[07:43] <gudneo> NETWizz: ~% better
[07:44] <james00> ubuntu+beryl kicks ms vi$ta's ass!
[07:44] <tovella> NETWizz: and much, much better than vista.
[07:44] <kingcobra> shatrat, ok thanx
[07:44] <nol13> PingFloyd: what do you preffer, with syd or post syd?
[07:44] <NETWizz> Does that mean XP is better than Vista?
[07:44] <cables> tovella, I would have to disagree with you on some points... but Ubuntu is definitely my preference.
[07:44] <supaneko> Is there a way to search the Ubuntu package databse?
[07:44] <supaneko> *database
[07:44] <tovella> NETWizz: everything is better than vista.
[07:44] <cables> supaneko, Synaptic could do that
[07:44] <PingFloyd> if kde and/or gnome is too bloated for your tastes, try out icewm
[07:45] <supaneko> ^^ I agree with that. :D
[07:45] <gudneo> My Gnome is loading very slow ... Is there a way to optimize gnome loading
[07:45] <NETWizz> I think vista is okay
[07:45] <NETWizz> I have used it
[07:45] <Bohica032> im on OSX right now, and I have to type all commands to the other PC
[07:45] <cables> tovella, I've got to admit, hibernate/suspend is great in Vista.
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: no is means that Vista is great
[07:45] <NETWizz> I don't like their new WDDM driver requirement for Aero
[07:45] <mattyv> supaneko: several, seach in Synaptic, apt-cache search form the command line, Package Search in Firefox 2
[07:45] <lotusleaf> !windows
[07:45] <NETWizz> I think that is bullshit
[07:45] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: .....................
[07:45] <cables> Bohica032, fdisk -l (l as in lemon)
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: .....................
[07:45] <lotusleaf> !language > NETWizz
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: .....................
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: FOR ME TO POOP ON
[07:45] <supaneko> mattyv, I have tried searching under Firefox 2 but it always says I didn't enter a keyword.
[07:45] <Bohica032> when i typed fdisk -l  it don't give me nothing
[07:45] <NETWizz> If Beryl runs on old video cards, I don't see why Vista can't
[07:46] <cables> Bohica032, sorry, sudo fdisk -l
[07:46] <NETWizz> I also don't see why vista spread everything out
[07:46] <tom47> !offtopic > NETWizz
[07:46] <mattyv> supaneko: I think it has problems when entering 2 words, try a single word
[07:46] <PingFloyd> try enclosing in quotes, otherwise it's enterpretting as seperate arguments
[07:46] <tovella> cables: hibernate/suspend works quite well on my crappy dell notebook, too (ubuntu).
[07:47] <Angelus> there was no information on Basic commands!
[07:47] <Bohica032> Disk /dev/hda: 20GB and Disk /dev/hdb 40 GB
[07:47] <cables> tovella, I'm talking about the combined one... it writes the memory to the disk AND suspends, so it starts up quickly, but is fail-safe (if you lose power it just unhibernates)
[07:47] <Angelus> I would like to know how to change permissions on a file please
[07:47] <cables> Angelus, if you want to do it graphically, right click and click Properties.
[07:47] <kalin> chmod
[07:48] <james00> anybody know how to edit panel fonts to WHITE? i've tried making that .gtkrc-2.0 file but in feisty theres a ".gtkrc1.0-2" file thats auto written by gnome-settings-daemon that's used by the system instead.
[07:48] <tom47> Angelus use man chown in a termianl
[07:48] <cables> Angelus, otherwise, use chmod (man chmod)
[07:48] <gudneo> Angelus .: you can use chmod
[07:48] <Angelus> thank you!!!!
[07:48] <tom47> oops chmod
[07:48] <Angelus> chmod that's what I'm after!
[07:48] <t3soro> chmod -r 0777 /some/thing
[07:48] <t3soro> the -r is recursive (all subdirs/files as well)
[07:48] <tom47> Angelus sorry i was confused
[07:48] <Bohica032> can I use that to a HDD?
[07:48] <james00> its -R capital
[07:48] <t3soro> 0777 means allow everyone to read/write/execute
[07:49] <kingcobra> shatrat, how do i install gmplayer, its not in synaptic
[07:49] <kalin> kingcobra, maybe you need to add universe and multiverse repositories to synaptic
[07:49] <shatrat> kingcobra, I believe you install "mplayer" and gmplayer is the executable if you want a GUI menu, mplayer is kind of command-only
[07:49] <cables> Bohica032, you'll have to give us more of the fdisk -l
[07:49] <cables> Bohica032, what's the filesystem on each one?
[07:49] <gudneo> Angelus: Please see this tutorial .. "http://www.evolt.org/article/A_quick_and_dirty_chmod_Tutorial/18/541/" Excellent one ..!
[07:50] <Angelus> thanks gudneo!
[07:50] <goodwill> hmmm
[07:50] <kingcobra> shatrat, thanx again
[07:50] <gudneo> No probs Angelus ..
[07:50] <shatrat> kingcobra, good luck
[07:50] <kingcobra> kalin theyre added
[07:50] <gudneo> Afterall we all are here to help ...
[07:51] <kalin> kingcobra, i was just guessing, looks like shatrat's suggestion was what you needed :)
[07:51] <Bohica032> "/hda (20GB)  /dev/hda1 /hda2 /hda5"
[07:51] <gudneo> Can I shoot my problem ... ???
[07:51] <goodwill> so noone knows
[07:51] <kingcobra> kalin no prob, thanx
[07:51] <goodwill> I am installing ubuntu on one computer and planning to move the harddrive to a diffrent system (both pentiums, but diffeent mobo's, nics and such). Will I need to rerun hardware detection?
[07:52] <lineman60_> most of it shoudl be pritty automatic
[07:52] <Bohica032> AHHHHHHH
[07:52] <Bohica032> what else do you guys need
[07:52] <gudneo> goodwill: I think it will work fine ..
[07:53] <gudneo> Bohica032: My gnome loading very slow ,, Y so?
[07:53] <cables> Bohica032, it'll say something like ntfs, fat, hfs, ext, or something like that
[07:53] <goodwill> gudneo: thank you
[07:53] <cables> gudneo, did gnome load slowly on fedora?
[07:54] <gudneo> cables: when i first install ubuntu it is loading superfast ... after sometimes it becomes slow ...
[07:54] <slavik> night all
[07:55] <gudneo> It will wait at the splash screen for about a minute b4 loading desktop
[07:55] <Golstaff> I cannot get sound to work on my new eft machine. I have followed the walkthroughs I can find online to no avail. I am thinking of buying a new sound card. Any recommendations as to which one would be compatible?(looking to spend <$100)
[07:55] <cables> gudneo, any startup programs?
[07:55] <Bohica032> Infidel - you still here?
[07:55] <goodwill> Golstaff: any soundblaster should do
[07:56] <gudneo> cables, not at all
[07:56] <Golstaff> k, so stick with creative then?
[07:56] <gudneo> cables, i have kde installed ..
[07:56] <cables> gudneo, I'm not sure why that's happening
[07:56] <Bohica032> cabels - I was able to format both HDD with ext3
[07:56] <Golstaff> thanks
[07:56] <gudneo> cables, its okay ... :) ... U tried to help me ... thats gr8 .. Thank You cables ,,
[07:57] <gudneo> Could anyone help me on Gnome please .. :)
[07:57] <Angelus> how do you change the owner of a directory?
[07:57] <cables> !permissions | Angelus
[07:57] <ubotu> Angelus: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[07:58] <cables> !away | LaNCeloT_RW
[07:58] <ubotu> LaNCeloT_RW: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[07:58] <LaNCeloT_RW> Sorry! =(
[07:59] <akirksey> whats the word on  Texas Instruments PCI7420/7620 mass storage controller?
[07:59] <gudneo> Angelus: Use chown command ... chown neowner,newownergroup dir
[08:00] <tovella> i'm feeling an uncontrollable urge to re-do my server... later all.
[08:00] <t3soro> have fun
[08:00] <gudneo> :( ... I am sad ... no one is trying to help me  .. except cables ...
[08:00] <````bulldogg> I have a laptop that I am going to use for college and I am enrolled in a network security program which version of ubuntu should I run  edgy, fawn, or the previous one whos name escapes me at the moment
[08:01] <cables> !patience | gudneo
[08:01] <ubotu> gudneo: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:01] <````bulldogg> I was looking at feisty but I wonder how stable it is?
[08:01] <cables> gudneo, maybe that wasn't the best message... what I WANTED ubotu to say was that people will help you if they know how to fix your problem
[08:01] <cables> ````bulldogg, it's an alpha... do the math :)
[08:01] <akirksey> word on the street is feisty is about as stable as a new born fawn still slick from mothers womb.
[08:01] <gudneo> ubotu: I understand ..
[08:01] <````bulldogg> laugh... okay... that answers that question
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i understand .. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <Jaguar> lol
[08:02] <cables> gudneo, bot :)
[08:02] <````bulldogg> so do you guys reccoment edgy or hoary?
[08:02] <Jaguar> That was the best one I've sene tonight.
[08:02] <Jaguar> seen'
[08:02] <cables> ````bulldogg, neither
[08:02] <cables> ````bulldogg, Dapper or Edgy
[08:02] <cables> ````bulldogg, which is not neither, but whatever :)
[08:02] <akirksey> Dapper's your best bet since it's supported
[08:02] <````bulldogg> okay sorry it would be dapper yes
[08:03] <Jaguar> 'Night folks.
[08:03] <cables> akirksey, so is edgy, but not for as long
[08:03] <````bulldogg> so which?  dapper or edgy?
[08:03] <cables> ````bulldogg, Edgy is better, but isn't supported with updates for as long. Dapper is older and has older software.
[08:03] <akirksey> Why isn't edgy supported for as long?
[08:03] <kmitch87> hola, peoples!
[08:03] <cables> !lts | akirksey
[08:03] <ubotu> akirksey: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:03] <akirksey> !lts | akirksey
[08:03] <````bulldogg> okay thanks for the information.... I have been running fedora but was looking to try something different
[08:04] <akirksey> sure so Edgy should have longer support then Dapper? I'm sorry, I'm still seeing places on the forums were people still arn't 100% confident in Edgy
[08:04] <````bulldogg> I can load all of my network security stuff like... kismet etc..
[08:04] <nol13> akirksey: mainly becasue of software piracy
[08:05] <gudneo> cables: Thanks :)
[08:05] <````bulldogg> okay the five million dollar question.. which version will support my intel 3945bg wireless the best?
[08:06] <nol13> dont you guys ever get sick of all these n00bz?
[08:06] <cables> akirksey, Edgy is really fine... but it's less tested than Dapper. It's still a stable release, though, and if the LiveCD works for you, then it should work fine
[08:06] <cables> !coc | nol13
[08:06] <ubotu> nol13: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:06] <gudneo> bulldog: Edgy
[08:06] <kmitch87> bulldogg: intel should have opensource drivers available
[08:06] <DavidHKMrPowers> who likes Paris Hilton?
[08:06] <mattyv> akirksey: Sorry if I've missed something, but no, Dapper was released with long term support in mind, edgy has support half as long
[08:06] <````bulldogg> well that settles it
[08:06] <nol13> cables: sorry
[08:06] <cables> ````bulldogg, probably Edgy, but you can try the LiveCD to make sure
[08:06] <akirksey> oh yeah it works fine. The only hiccup was the generic kernal forcing me into a three month brawl with my Broadcom chipset, but other then that it's excellent.
[08:06] <akirksey> i'm delighted by Edgy.
[08:07] <kmitch87> bulldogg: however, you will need to get the firmware separately
[08:07] <````bulldogg> and no113 I am not a noob just haven't used ubuntu that muck
[08:07] <````bulldogg> I can do that... I just don't want to have to fiddle with it for hours
[08:07] <cables> i think nol13's either a trolling bot or just a troll
[08:08] <````bulldogg> sorry if I am asking to many questions... just trying to figure out what to load and have the best of everything
[08:08] <cables> ````bulldogg, you're certainly not asking too many questions
[08:08] <````bulldogg> some day if I get brave enough I am going to triple boot my Mactel
[08:08] <nol13> what is muck?
[08:08] <cables> !ops | nol13
[08:08] <akirksey> mattyv: then will fiesty be bestowed with the LTS once it's past beta?
[08:08] <ubotu> nol13: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[08:08] <gnomefreak> i see it cables
[08:08] <````bulldogg> I have xp and osx on it right now.. and would like to add a linux distro
[08:09] <mattyv> cables: re: troll, agreed
[08:09] <gnomefreak> nol13: stay on topic please
[08:09] <nol13> sorry guys, have a good night everyone, dont drink and drive
[08:09] <Helmi> good morning
[08:09] <mattyv> akirksey: Feidty no, maybe Feisty+1 or +2, it will be chosen when things are likely to be stable and long support is more plausable
[08:09] <Hobbsee> akirksey: no.
[08:09] <Helmi> is there a possiblitys to have .* files shown in nautilus permanently?
[08:10] <kmitch87> Helmi: yes
[08:10] <cables> akirksey, only every few releases are LTS
[08:10] <````bulldogg> have a nice night you guys helped me out a lot.... if I get around to triple booting my mac intel I might have to look you up again
[08:10] <jrr> what happened to my gnome disk manager?
[08:10] <Helmi> kmitch87: oh cool - will you tell me how? :)
[08:10] <kmitch87> Helmi: View-->Show hidden files in nautilus toolbar
[08:10] <Amaranth> jrr: it was buggy and iirc had security problems so it was removed from GNOME
[08:11] <Helmi> thanks ;) kmitch87
[08:11] <jrr> wowsers
[08:11] <akirksey> oh ok.
[08:11] <supaneko> Hmm, is there a way to display the boot sequence for Ubuntu rather than the Windows-like Ubuntu load screen (which just shows the Ubuntu logo and a small status bar)?
[08:11] <cables> supaneko, sure
[08:11] <kmitch87> Helmi: also Ctrl + H keyboard shortcut
[08:11] <supaneko> Hmm, cables, could you please enlighten me?
[08:11] <cables> supaneko, alt-f2 then gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:11] <Amaranth> superlou: remove quiet from the boot line in grub
[08:11] <jrr> supaneko: i believe that's the "splash" argument in grub's conf
[08:11] <Helmi> kmitch87: yeah i saw that - does this setting get saved automatically or do i have to save it to have it switched on by default?
[08:11] <cables> Amaranth, I'll walk him thhrough
[08:12] <ardchoille> supaneko: Remove 'splash' from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:12] <cables> supaneko, do you want to see the splash but under it see the boot sequence, or not see the pretty graphics at all?
[08:12] <kmitch87> Helmi: I think it is just for the one time the nautilus is openned
[08:12] <Helmi> kmitch87: yeah i thought that - but must be possible to save somewhere as a standard hm?
[08:13] <supaneko> What is the quiet option in boot.lst?
[08:13] <supaneko> *menu.lst
[08:13] <cables> supaneko, find the "defoptions" line
[08:13] <kmitch87> Helmi: go to Preferences in nautilus toolbar and tick the check box next to show hidden files and folders
[08:13] <cables> supaneko, do you want to see the splash but under it in a box see the boot sequence, or do you want to get rid of the splash entirely?
[08:13] <Helmi> kmitch87: thanks
[08:13] <kmitch87> Helmi: no prob
[08:14] <supaneko> Actually, that would be perfect, cables.
[08:14] <cables> supaneko, which one?
[08:14] <supaneko> Having the splash with boot sequence below.
[08:14] <kmitch87> Helmi: Edit--> Preferences in nautilus toolbar to be exact
[08:14] <Helmi> kmitch87: yeah found it already thx
[08:14] <cables> supaneko, ok. Find the defoptions line (ctrl-f is your friend)
[08:15] <akirksey> Well anyways, on a side note, I'm trying to get my SD Card reader to mount the SD cards, and I was curious if anyone had any insight in how I could maybe, possibly, somehow get that to work.
[08:15] <akirksey> i know that's a vauge summation of the issue so let me post my lspci which says I have a  Texas Instruments PCI7420/7620 Mass Storage Controller
[08:15] <cables> supaneko, it should look like this: # defoptions=quiet splash
[08:15] <supaneko> Yep, that's exactly what it looks like.
[08:15] <cables> supaneko, once you see it, delete "quiet"
[08:15] <cables> supaneko, then save it and close it
[08:15] <yigal> oh its nice to turn the quiet option off
[08:15] <yigal> then you can see the processes as you boot up
[08:16] <yigal> but the logo is still there
[08:16] <cables> supaneko, then open a terminal and run the command "sudo update-grub"
[08:16] <supaneko> Do I remove it on the commented out line or in the boot options area?
[08:16] <supaneko> Where it has title, root, kernel, initrd, quiet, etc.
[08:16] <cables> supaneko, commented out line
[08:17] <supaneko> Really...? Okie.
[08:17] <cables> supaneko, then it will automatically re-add it whenever you get a kernel update
[08:17] <cables> supaneko, sudo update-grub will automatically update all your kernel lines with the new options
[08:17] <fnf> I've seen a feature request on multiple-segment apt-get downloads. But is there anyway to make apt-get download multiple packages (when updating/installing) simultaneously currently ?.
[08:17] <eshaase> for some .avi files (divx) i get garbled audio using mplayer, any ideas? i've tried all the -ao xxx drivers and had no luck
[08:17] <supaneko> WELL, I will BRB. :)
[08:17] <yigal> Wasn't there a gui boot manager for grub, I recall there being one in GNOME 2.10
[08:17] <yigal> you could ask for grub, vga=794 etc.
[08:18] <supaneko> cables, thank you.
[08:18] <Bohica032> why is it such a pain in the a$$ to add 2nd HDD?
[08:18] <ardchoille> yigal: You mean bum?
[08:18] <ardchoille> !bum
[08:18] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:19] <cables> ardchoille, but that doesn't let you change the menu.lst, just the init scripts.
[08:19] <Schalken> !awn
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <ungar88> hello :)
[08:19] <Schalken> !avant
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <ungar88> !avant
[08:19] <Schalken> hi
[08:19] <AtlanticBoy> !ipfilter
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipfilter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Golstaff> any recommendations on keeping beryl from crashing on eft, or should i install fawn?
[08:20] <Bohica032> does anyone know how to attach 2nd HDD to ubuntu?
[08:21] <eshaase> for some .avi files (divx) i get garbled audio using mplayer, any ideas? i've tried all the -ao xxx drivers and had no luck
[08:21] <Schalken> Golstaff: you shouldnt try to fixing an unstable piece of software by making your whole system unstable
[08:21] <Golstaff> lol, gotcha
[08:22] <Golstaff> sorry a little drunk. too much celebrating st my day (patrick)
[08:22] <procyon> whats the crash message from beryl gol
[08:23] <mirra_> was anyone else around for my iptables / nameservers problem????
[08:24] <gbv22> hi, i installed ubuntu, but when i boot up it always loads to windows. windows and ubuntu are on seperate drives. how can i get the grub menu to show up?
[08:24] <Golstaff> i didn't see a message, comp stopped responding for a sec, then beryl closed completely and went back to default display settings
[08:24] <nospi> hey
[08:25] <nospi> wat's happenin?
[08:25] <city-lights> hello .. i can't find a way to connect to the internet in ubuntu (just installed it)
[08:25] <procyon> beryl closed? the beryl manager icon vanished?
[08:25] <tom47> city-lights adsl cable or dial-up
[08:25] <city-lights> i have a broadband connection, that does not use modem
[08:25] <Golstaff> yes, it vanished
[08:25] <gbv22> city-lights: is eth0 enabled?
[08:26] <Golstaff> I may have missed something (i'm a bit of a newb, and I've had too much Guiness tonight)
[08:26] <city-lights> gbv22: sorry, i'm noob into this. some docs or something?
[08:26] <d0lph1n> !VPN
[08:26] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[08:26] <procyon> nice, ive had my fill as well
[08:26] <Bohica032> i guess noone knows how to install 2nd HDD here?
[08:26] <city-lights> gbv22: and yes ethernet enabled
[08:27] <cables> !ipfilters | AtlanticBoy
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipfilters - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <eshaase> i get garbled audio when i use mplayer to play divx files with "MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)", i've tried all the -ao xxx drivers and still no luck, any ideas?
[08:27] <cables> !iptables | AtlanticBoy
[08:27] <ubotu> AtlanticBoy: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:27] <AtlanticBoy> thanks cables
[08:27] <dfdfsfdsf> what the best mp3 to m4a converter out there ?
[08:27] <procyon> does it crahs randomly or when you run certain programs?
[08:27] <cables> dfdfsfdsf, you probably have to convert to something like wav first
[08:28] <Golstaff> whenever i try to move a window it dies
[08:28] <cables> dfdfsfdsf, you could write a script I guess
[08:28] <gbv22> city-lights: ok...try this...in ur browser window type in 66.102.7.147 and see if it takes you anywhere. just chekin if its dns
[08:28] <cables> dfdfsfdsf, just curious, why are you converting mp3 to m4a?
[08:28] <procyon> was it ever working properly?
[08:28] <yooluca> cables because its better for my  n73 nokia
[08:28] <city-lights> gbv22: it does not
[08:29] <Golstaff> I can minimize and restore ok, but when I move a window it freezes, then closes. It never worked properly
[08:29] <gbv22> city-lights: are u behind a router?
[08:29] <city-lights> the problem is i cannot access my internet connection, because it's not there.
[08:29] <cables> yooluca, you have a phone that prefers m4a to mp3? I've never heard of that
[08:29] <procyon> cool, that narrows things then
[08:29] <city-lights> i just need to provide my ISP's name, user and pass
[08:29] <city-lights> but instead i only have modem options
[08:29] <city-lights> i don't use a modem
[08:29] <gbv22> city-lights: oh...ok..dls?
[08:29] <gbv22> dsl?
[08:29] <c0llisi0n> Hi there.
[08:29] <gbv22> ?
[08:29] <yooluca> cables when i copy music file to n73 nokia the pc suite its asking me if i would like to convert the files to the best know mobile files ... and when i hit yes it start converting the file (mp3 to m4a) so it seems like m4a its better for the mobile
[08:29] <city-lights> fiber optics
[08:30] <c0llisi0n> I am having a problem where Ubuntu is unable to see my Windows XP computer under "Network Servers."
[08:30] <cables> yooluca, alright, ffmpeg is probably your best bet.
[08:30] <gbv22> city-lights: damn...ok....so no modem? router?
[08:30] <c0llisi0n> I have all the SMBs installed, or so I think.
[08:30] <Nighteye> sup
[08:30] <c0llisi0n> Windows Network shows up but no servers.
[08:30] <yooluca> cables yes it does that ... it can also play mp3 ... but no clue why is asking me if i would like to convert the files
[08:30] <procyon> if i were you i'd launch beryl-manager from a terminal then open up a seperate window. Then you can see what meassge you get when it crashes
[08:30] <cables> yooluca, then why not just use mp3?
[08:30] <city-lights> no. just a username and password. is there a patch for this? can't believe it does not exist
[08:31] <yooluca> cables im i confusing now m4a with mp4 ?
[08:31] <Golstaff> cool thanks. don't know why i couldn't think of that
[08:31] <cables> yooluca, m4a is actually Apple's filename extension for AAC, which is mpeg-4 audio
[08:31] <Golstaff> I'll try that out as soon as I sober up
[08:31] <cyberfr0g> hello
[08:31] <procyon> then you can just google the error message
[08:31] <procyon> mostly likely many have had it before
[08:31] <yooluca> cables well i did use it .. but the music player for n73 nokia seems to be a bit slow in refreshing music sometimes even crashing if the files are mp3
[08:31] <Golstaff> Thank you much procyon
[08:31] <cables> yooluca, ah
[08:31] <procyon> word
[08:32] <l90bpm> (making sure I didn't lock it up) testingtesting123 (been working on this broken laptop all day)
[08:32] <akirksey> its been my experience that if ever you want to migrate audio files to another device you should keep them mp3 just incase where you put them doesn't have the decryption keys. WMA are notorious for that.
[08:32] <Golstaff> night all
[08:32] <Officer`Thasp> can I un rm 2 MB of files from a folder if I haven't written to the HD since I rm'ed them?
[08:32] <Golstaff> quit time to sleep it off
[08:32] <Bohica032> nihgt
[08:32] <yooluca> cables and also m4a are a lot smaller then mp3 ... and its good :)
[08:32] <yooluca> cables converting mp3 to m4a will the quality be same ?
[08:33] <Helmi> hmm i'm currently starting to code under linux with eclipse (with pdt extension) and i've opened some files from a central NAS-Box in the network - eclipse tells me every view seconds that the file has changed on the server and if i want to reload it but that's definitely wrong
[08:33] <cables> yooluca, not really, it depends on the bitrate. And you will definately lose quality converting a lossy format like mp3 to another one (aac)
[08:33] <kraypius> i just installed beryl and now when I start X I get: Xsession: unsupported number of arguements: (3); falling back to default session
[08:33] <gbv22> city-lights: im sorry man...i have never connected to the net in tht manner
[08:33] <Helmi> any ideas where this may come from or how i can get rid of it?
[08:33] <kraypius> what should I do?
[08:33] <cyberfr0g> unsure
[08:33] <l90bpm> ok, great
[08:34] <yooluca> cables god dam they are small .. from a 10 mb mp3 file its making about 1.5 mb 2 Mb something like that
[08:34] <cables> yooluca, then you're definitely losing a ton of quality
[08:35] <yooluca> cables ok i see what i can do
[08:35] <yooluca> cables do you know any nokia help channel ?
[08:35] <cables> yooluca, you don't need that
[08:35] <c0llisi0n> What can I do so that I can see my Windows XP media server?
[08:35] <cables> yooluca, you want to convert mp3 to aac, I'll help you. just hold on a sec
[08:35] <cables> yooluca, you're using Ubuntu, right?
[08:35] <yooluca> cables yes
[08:36] <Random12341> i dont understand this version of azureus. I think its downloading a torrent. the files have been created in the directory i specified, however, i cant get the azureus to show me anything about whats going on. its a blank window
[08:36] <Bohica032> OK now i'm getting a headache... still can't add a 2nd HDD to this bloody system....  WINDOWS was easier
[08:36] <yooluca> cables well i would like to find a mobile helping channel too ... i have some other problems with it too
[08:36] <Random12341> Bohica032, apparently you havent used vista.
[08:36] <Bohica032> lol
[08:36] <Bohica032> no XP
[08:37] <cypher1> does someone has had any problems with xmms options menu font
[08:37] <Random12341> Bohica032, dont worry, linux has been kicking my ass too
[08:37] <kraypius> can anyone help me with my X and beryl? nobody is talking in #beryl
[08:37] <cables> yooluca, can you tell me what audio bitrate you want them to be encoded at? 128 sounds pretty good
[08:37] <Bohica032> this is my 5th time re-installing the damn thing
[08:37] <Random12341> this is my 100th. no lie.
[08:38] <Rooy> kraypius: what about #ubuntu-effects?
[08:38] <Random12341> i've gone through EVERY distro.
[08:38] <Bohica032> and they say it's the better system... LOL
[08:38] <victoria> hello, what is the correct dpkg command to reconfigure a package?
[08:38] <pwnzorz> ive reinstalled like5
[08:38] <yooluca> cables yeah should be ok
[08:38] <Random12341> Bohica032, it has its advantages. But microsoft is nuts. $200 for an OS that takes up that many resources and runs that crappy? their insane.
[08:39] <kraypius> Rooy, nobody talkin in there
[08:39] <Random12341> Bohica032,  you have to accept that linux was developed based on different logic.
[08:39] <pwnzorz> i dont get why ppl can hate a free os...
[08:40] <Rooy> kraypius: how are things messed up?
[08:40] <yooluca> cables once again :) ... when i try to copy music to the mobile i i get a info saying "do you want to convert music tracks to mobile optimised format "it might be not bad doing it
[08:40] <kraypius> Xsession: unsupported number of arguements: (3); falling back to default session
[08:40] <Random12341> pwnzorz, they hate that they dont wanna use microsoft and linux so fickel.
[08:40] <kraypius> thats what I get when I start X with beryl
[08:40] <Bohica032> I know... personally I use MAC OSX, and trying to set-up my old PC as web server
[08:40] <Bohica032> but 1st i need to attach the f@#$%G 2nd HDD
[08:40] <pwnzorz> im forced to windows, only os that plsys games
[08:41] <Rooy> kraypius: how did you start beryl? with a custom session script?
[08:41] <gbv22> pwnzorz: what games?
[08:41] <kraypius> rooy, yes
[08:41] <Random12341> pwnzorz, they say vista slows games down 25%
[08:41] <kraypius> rooy, i will show it to you
[08:41] <gbv22> pwnzors: what games do u play...
[08:41] <pwnzorz> bf2 cs:source farcry, civ iv
[08:42] <Rooy> kraypius: how about starting it with gnome-session? (WAG: you're using KDE)
[08:42] <ropha> pwnzorz, give them all away for tuxkart then ;P
[08:42] <pwnzorz> alot of others im too lazy to name
[08:42] <Random12341> windows is nice, its just evovled into a pile of 3 ton crap.
[08:42] <pwnzorz> ya
[08:42] <kraypius> rooy, yeah thats what I meant
[08:42] <pwnzorz> it looks ugly too
[08:42] <gbv22> pwnzorz: i play plenty of games on linux..so i dont think its right to say windows is the only OS that plays games!!
[08:43] <pwnzorz> im usin touchscreen to type, hard
[08:43] <kraypius> Rooy, http://pastebin.ca/399775
[08:43] <Random12341> atlest with linux, as much as i hate it, if i dont like something, i can remove it... after 14 1000 page manuals, 3 6packs, 4 pizza's and 3 weeks.
[08:43] <procyon> windows is the only os games are developed for, would be more appropriate
[08:43] <gbv22> procyon: true
[08:43] <pwnzorz> gbv22: actual games, or just frozen bubble ;)
[08:43] <pwnzorz> windows has directx
[08:44] <gbv22> pwnzorz: actual games....if u consider stuff like half life 2 or gta games..yeah..i play them on linux
[08:44] <procyon> opengl?
[08:44] <pwnzorz> ...
[08:44] <pwnzorz> bf2142?
[08:44] <pwnzorz> will you be able to play crysis, spore?
[08:45] <catxk> if I wanna dualboot ubuntu and win xp, does it matter which partition is first so to speak?
[08:45] <gbv22> pwnzorz: i cannot predict the future yet
[08:45] <pwnzorz> windows os has directx backin them up, nuff said
[08:45] <ropha> catxk, install windows first
[08:45] <pwnzorz> linux needs support.
[08:46] <gRaCiOsO> good evening well im a newbe here in linux and im trying to install and configure a web server but i dont have any idea what to look for or what to do anyone here could be nice and tell me about what can i read and where please ?
[08:46] <procyon> directx is rather meaningless. You dont NEED directx to make a game
[08:46] <gbv22> pwnzorz: im sure it is...but im just pointint out to u that u can play plenty of mainstream games on linux, announcing that u cant play games on linux here.. is misleading
[08:46] <ropha> gRaCiOsO, apache2
[08:46] <pwnzorz> procyon: tell thst to producers...
[08:46] <Random12341> pwnzorz, nah, linux needs... flow. Its a heaping pile of 1000 different projects.
[08:46] <gRaCiOsO> ropha,  does it have a website to read something about it?
[08:47] <catxk> ropha: right... so I install windows just as I've always done and then run the ubuntu install and everything should be fine? or? :)
[08:47] <procyon> dont need too. game producers use directx because it runs on windows and the vast majority of peoiple run windows
[08:47] <ropha> gRaCiOsO, so many, it's not funny
[08:47] <Pupeno2> Is there a midi on-screen keyboard packaged for Ubuntu?
[08:47] <cables> yooluca, ok, got it
[08:47] <pwnzorz> theres no gettin around the fact that producers dont see a community that plays games and uses linux.
[08:47] <Rooy> kraypius: on this site, your same arguments to Xsession is used with exec http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL
[08:47] <ropha> catxk, yep. and if it's not, come back here ;)
[08:47] <procyon> making games multi paltform istn profitable
[08:47] <Bohica032> WELL IF ALL GOES WELL I WILL HAVE BOTH OF MY HDD ON MY MACHINE...5 min to go
[08:47] <cables> yooluca, you there?
[08:47] <cables> !attitude | Bohica032
[08:47] <ubotu> Bohica032: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:47] <Rooy> kraypius: and on this one xession is used only with gnome-session as argument http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_XGL
[08:47] <gRaCiOsO> ropha,  ok thanks sorry i just told im a novice sorry
[08:48] <Flannel> !lamp | gRaCiOsO
[08:48] <ubotu> gRaCiOsO: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:48] <cables> !offtopic | pwnzorz, procyon
[08:48] <ubotu> pwnzorz, procyon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:48] <Flannel> gRaCiOsO: check that URL
[08:48] <gbv22> pwnzorz:true..but the fact remains..may of thoes games tht were made for windows can be played fine on linux....and thats a fact
[08:48] <Bohica032> !sorry
[08:48] <cables> yooluca, are you there?
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <catxk> ropha: mmkay, how much space would the ubuntu install need? would 10 gb be well enough?
[08:48] <kraypius> rooy, what should I do?
[08:48] <ropha> gRaCiOsO, yeah, not a problem. Just check out apache2 ... don't worry about LAMP for now ...
[08:48] <ropha> catxk, yep, more than enough
[08:48] <procyon> oh bt its so easy to get off topic
[08:48] <ralph-nader> Eh, I get an error in Camorama which won't allow me to take pictures. The error is: "Could not create directory '~/Webcam_Pictures'"
[08:48] <ralph-nader> What should I do to correct this?
[08:48] <catxk> ropha: cool, thanks a lot
[08:48] <gRaCiOsO> ok thanks a lot
[08:48] <Bohica032> !sorry | cables
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <pwnzorz> i know, but they cant run as well without directx
[08:49] <Random12341> i dont understand this version of azureus. I think its downloading a torrent. the files have been created in the directory i specified, however, i cant get the azureus to show me anything about whats going on. its a blank window
[08:49] <procyon> yes they can
[08:49] <Bohica032> LOL
[08:49] <Rooy> kraypius: try removing "dbus-launch --exit-withsession" part
[08:49] <cables> !offtopic | pwnzorz, procyon
[08:49] <ubotu> pwnzorz, procyon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:49] <ropha> gRaCiOsO, so the place to start is "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[08:49] <pwnzorz> port dx 10 then.
[08:49] <gbv22> pwnzorz: why dont u run some games on linux..try it out..and then talk about it...
[08:49] <Rooy> kraypius: i'm on nvidia, not xgl, can't test that out
[08:50] <ropha> ralph-nader, well, you could create the directory ... and give it permissions that will allow you to use it
[08:50] <yooluca> cables yes im here
[08:50] <kraypius> rooy,  kbrb
[08:50] <pwnzorz> gbv 22: i know they run but the gfx arent as refined, the drivers are lame, and as far as support, your screwed...
[08:50] <ralph-nader> ropha; Which permissions? :o
[08:50] <cables> yooluca, do this: sudo aptitude install lame faac
[08:51] <cellofellow> I have a Debian Sarge server and two problem Windows98/ME clients. The Win98 boxes can browse shares just fine, but when printing to a shared printer, I get: "There was an error writing to \\SERVER1\hplaser for printer (Network1): The network name cannot be found."
[08:51] <ropha> ralph-nader, well first create the directory $HOME/Webcam_Pictures
[08:51] <cellofellow> Like I said, browsing shares works fine.
[08:51] <ralph-nader> Okay.
[08:51] <billy> Greetings fellow earth_creatures.
[08:51] <ropha> ralph-nader, see what happens with camorama then
[08:51] <Bohica032> is there a guide for dummies for ubuntu?  something that explains things step-by-step?
[08:51] <gbv22> pwnzorz: true...i dual boot with vista myself..cause configuring some things can be a pain..but 90% of the apps i need work...and if i had a little more knowledge..i guess mroe would
[08:51] <ralph-nader> It gives the same error.
[08:51] <ralph-nader> I tried it a minute ago.
[08:51] <ropha> Bohica032, it's called Windows. Next!
[08:52] <Bohica032> lol
[08:52] <ralph-nader> ropha; Haha.
[08:52] <kraypius> rooy, X started up but everything looks the same
[08:52] <Bohica032> lmao
[08:52] <yooluca> cables and then ? that would not install me a gui package is it ?
[08:52] <cables> yooluca, no gui.
[08:52] <ralph-nader> Let me try to change the permissions.
[08:52] <Bohica032> thaks guys I needed that
[08:52] <ropha> ralph-nader, and you still get the "could not create" error? Have you looked to make sure it really is created?
[08:52] <cellofellow> Bohica032: yes, all over. I haven't found one personally cause I like the nitty gritty.
[08:52] <Rooy> kraypius: have you start beryl-manager?
[08:52] <mattyv> Bohica032: It won't go through everything, but the guide in System > Ubuntu is pretty good
[08:52] <ralph-nader> I'm positive.
[08:52] <kraypius> rooy, yeah i see a little diamond
[08:52] <billy> Bohica032:  using Edgy?
[08:52] <kraypius> rooy, but nothing seems different
[08:53] <ralph-nader> mkdir is idiot proof. (Well, almost.)
[08:53] <Bohica032> this is my 1st exposure to this system
[08:53] <cables> yooluca, to convert a file, run this command: lame --decode <in>.mp3 - | faac -b 128 - -o <out.m4a>
[08:53] <Bohica032> I have no ideas about command lines and such
[08:53] <pwnzorz> linux needs to get rid of console
[08:53] <billy> Bohica032, it can be a little overwhelming.
[08:53] <yooluca> cables cheers mate
[08:53] <cellofellow> help please? Samba problems.
[08:53] <Rooy> kraypius: rightclick the beryl icon and see what's selected in "window manager"
[08:53] <cellofellow> pwnzorz: never!
[08:53] <ropha> pwnzorz, now you are just talking crap
[08:53] <cables> yooluca, replace <in> with the name of your file, in single quotes. Replace <out> with the name of the output file, in single quotes
[08:53] <Bohica032> i read the LAMP guide, and I'm lost
[08:53] <rowdog> Random12341, you probably need to get "My Torrents" open again, "View | My Torrents" or CTRL+1
[08:54] <yooluca> cables yes .. thanks a lot for your help mate
[08:54] <kraypius> rooy, metacity
[08:54] <procyon> pwnzorz: pwnzorz = pwnzorz--
[08:54] <billy> Bohica032, are you using Edgy?
[08:54] <Random12341> billy: a little? in my opinion, its insane to have any sort of multi tasking OS for general use so dependent on the console. NO ONE in their right mind would wanna use it like that.
[08:54] <cables> yooluca, no problem
[08:54] <yooluca> cables got to go now ...  see yoo
[08:54] <Rooy> kraypius: select Beryl there
[08:54] <cables> yooluca, hold on
[08:54] <kraypius> rooy, woh
[08:54] <cables> damn
[08:54] <pwnzorz> cellofellow: when i use i feel like im back in DOS, not cool for something thats tryin to be revolutionary...
[08:54] <snaidis> How do I uninstall programs using wine?
[08:54] <mattyv> pwnzorz: Windows needs to add a more powerful console, oh hang on...they did in Vista. Maybe because console is great for those who know it
[08:54] <kraypius> JELLO!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:54] <ralph-nader> ropha; It still gives the error.
[08:54] <Rooy> kraypius: :)
[08:54] <Bohica032> no idea... i think so... the 6.06 desktop
[08:54] <ropha> Random12341, right ... so your thinking is servers should always have a GUI, ala Windows?
[08:54] <cables> mattyv, I thought Monad was taken out of vista?
[08:54] <ralph-nader> Even when I try it using sudo.
[08:54] <kraypius> tyvm
[08:54] <gbv22> pwnzorz: you clearly have no idea wht ure takin bout...lol...
[08:54] <cellofellow> pwnzorz: DOS? No way. Linux terminals way way way way better than DOS.
[08:55] <mattyv> cables: their loss then :)
[08:55] <ralph-nader> sudo /usr/bin/camorama -d /dev/video0 etc.
[08:55] <Random12341> ropha, a server is not a "Multi tasking os for general use"
[08:55] <gbv22> pwnzorz: revolutionary!=no console
[08:55] <cellofellow> pwnzorz: when you use the terminal, you are in CONTROL of your computer. Feel the power.
[08:55] <pwnzorz> gbv 22: it uses it way too much... thats all im sayin.
[08:55] <ropha> Random12341, of course it is
[08:55] <billy> Random12341, yes, the console dependecy is a bit too much to ask when it comes to some cases.  There are other distros though.
[08:55] <procyon> pwnzorz: Just because something doesnt have pretty buttons doesnt make it useless. Every day I admin windows systems I wish I had the command line ability of *nix
[08:55] <Random12341> ropha, perhaps you should reread the definition of a server.
[08:56] <ropha> and anyone who doesn't realise the power of the console should go back to Windows
[08:56] <ralph-nader> procyon; Amen.
[08:56] <Rooy> kraypius: for academic purpose, try replace "Xsession gnome-session" with "dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session" :)
[08:56] <gbv22> pwnzorz: true...after the first 3 weeks..u get used to it tho...heck i actually prefer the consol in some instances
[08:56] <ropha> Random12341, yeah right. Perhaps you should learn to use the console
[08:56] <ralph-nader> Console is like Jesus of the *nix biblical world.
[08:56] <Bohica032> what isthe differance between the 6.06 and the 6.10
[08:56] <billy> Bohica032, this is a good guide.  https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[08:56] <Rooy> !edgy
[08:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[08:56] <ralph-nader> Except, it wasn't nailed to a cross.
[08:56] <ropha> procyon, exactly ... for me the worst thing about windows is the lack of a useable shell
[08:56] <cables> Bohica032, one is newer, one will be supported for 3 years.
[08:57] <pwnzorz> gbv 22: console isnt the biggest killer of people migratin from microsoft
[08:57] <procyon> ropha: yup
[08:57] <pwnzorz> is
[08:57] <nalioth> !offtopic
[08:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:57] <Rooy> Bohica032: the highlights are in the release notes
[08:57] <cellofellow> please help with my crazy advanced samba problems. I tried everywhere but no one knows a thing.
[08:57] <ralph-nader> Anywho, it stills gives the same error.
[08:57] <Bohica032> so I guess i should upgrade to 6.10 than?
[08:57] <ralph-nader> I could always search the package manager for another suitable program.
[08:57] <Random12341> ropha, it is clearly ignorant to stick to command line for everything. There is no point in having to memorize the name for the command and all of its options for EVERYTHING. It is ease of use. a simple GUI for anything reduces the errors and time that it takes to run any given application.
[08:58] <billy> Bohica032, not necessarily.
[08:58] <ropha> Random12341, memorize all the options? You should learn about man pages ....
[08:58] <rickyfingers> does anyone here know of a good text editor for programming besides vi or emacs?
[08:58] <ralph-nader> rtfm.
[08:58] <ralph-nader> haha
[08:58] <coopster> gah! does ubuntu's wiki cache things that you make a preview of when you're creating a page?
[08:58] <cellofellow> scite
[08:58] <kraypius> rooy, what will that do?
[08:58] <ralph-nader> Gah, back to packages.
[08:58] <cellofellow> rickyfingers: scite.
[08:58] <mattyv> cellofellow: I assume everywhere means #samba?
[08:58] <kraypius> this is what I have
[08:58] <procyon> rickyringers: gecit?
[08:58] <kraypius> exec /etc/X11/Xsession gnome-session
[08:58] <kraypius> # dbus-launch --exit-with-session
[08:58] <cellofellow> mattyv: yes
[08:59] <procyon> err gedit
[08:59] <rickyfingers> thanks cellofellow, I'll check it out.
[08:59] <Random12341> ropha, again... takes more time to search through all those pages, when a gui is straight foreward. anyways, you are thickheaded and a fanboy, im done argueing with you. :)
[08:59] <cellofellow> mattyv: quiet as a tomb
[08:59] <nospi> anyone know of a good graphical editor like dreamweaver?
[08:59] <nospi> for HTML, PHP, CSS, JS etc
[08:59] <Rooy> kraypius: i can;t test it (nvidia card), just curious out of academic sense
[08:59] <nalioth> nospi: you might try nvu
[08:59] <Matic`Makovec> Hey. How can I mount .iso movie?
[08:59] <cellofellow> nospi: Nvu maybe.
[08:59] <Rooy> kraypius: you know, many ways to do one thing
[08:59] <nospi> nalioth, ok. i'll check it out, thanks
[08:59] <nospi> cellofellow, thanks :)
[08:59] <procyon> Random12341: --help
[08:59] <ropha> Random12341, and if you don't understand the power of the console over a GUI, you clearly haven't used the console. A GUI increases time used ... jeez, where we getting these people
[08:59] <mattyv> cellofellow: Hmm, I setup mine using webmin so I doubt I'll be of help
[08:59] <kraypius> is it bad that I have this commented? # dbus-launch --exit-with-session
[09:00] <kraypius> cause i know the things it tells you to add are to correct issues
[09:00] <cables> Random12341, have you ever actually used the console? Do you know what piping is?
[09:00] <ropha> Random12341, lol, yeah right. I feel sorry for you that the console is too hard for you to figure out. That's why Windows is there for ppl like you. Like classes for special kids at school.
[09:00] <Bohica032> billy can i PM you?
[09:00] <coopster> ropha, a console doesn't restrict input by only offering specific choices with limited options, that obviously makes it inferior and scary
[09:00] <cellofellow> mattyv: I have webmin but the option is just not there.
[09:00] <kraypius> if u want me to change it post me exactly what the line should be
[09:00] <kraypius> so i dont mess it up
[09:00] <rickyfingers> I like gedit, especailly how it colors the text, but once upon a time I had an editor that also auto-completed stuff like function names, cut down on errors a lot.
[09:00] <billy> Bohica032, absolutely.
[09:01] <cables> coopster, inferior? I don't think so...
[09:01] <coopster> rickyfingers, look at eclipse
[09:01] <Rooy> kraypius: ok, just skip that, start customising your experience!! :D
[09:01] <ralph-nader> (camorama:24784): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:01] <ralph-nader> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:01] <coopster> cables, (sarcasm)
[09:01] <ralph-nader> I broke it.
[09:01] <ralph-nader> :(
[09:01] <cellofellow> rickyfingers: DrPython is based off of scite and can do that sort of stuff, for HTML and C/C++ too.
[09:01] <ropha> coopster, exactly ;)
[09:01] <cables> coopster, omg, i just scrolled up and re-read it again and realized that :)
[09:01] <rickyfingers> I'll check out eclipse too, but isn't that for Java?
[09:01] <cables> coopster, when I don't recognize sarcasm, it's time for me to go to bed
[09:01] <procyon> rickyfingers: what lang are you using?
[09:01] <coopster> rickyfingers, it's made with java in mind, but there are plugins for ruby, c++, and i'm sure others
[09:02] <rickyfingers> I mainly use C.
[09:02] <cellofellow> Java has C plugins
[09:02] <coopster> there's a C plugin
[09:02] <ropha> coopster, these people think they were born with an intuitive grasp of windows .. when the truth is, it was foistered upon them, they could barely learn that, and anything that requires learning anything else is beyond them
[09:02] <darkholme> hi again
[09:02] <ropha> !ot|ropha
[09:02] <rickyfingers> let me check out eclipse and DrPython...
[09:02] <darkholme> I have been asking a lot of times the same question
[09:02] <ropha> i thought i'd warn myself
[09:03] <procyon> ropha: haha, nice
[09:03] <darkholme> I hope this time i'll find someone who knows the answer
[09:03] <cables> ropha, the minute I learned about | I was hooked on the cli :)
[09:03] <coopster> ropha, yeah.  that's always the big problem.  when you teach someone that windows [09:03] <Bohica032> WOOHOO I did it!!!
[09:03] <billy> darkholme, what's going on?
[09:03] <rickyfingers> sweet, I see SciTE compiles stuff for me too.
[09:04] <ropha> coopster, yep, and that's what gets me. Heh, i was using 'console' before windows came around, and I'll be using it when it's gone :)
[09:04] <coopster> "Help file?  ahahah, that's what the IT department is for.  you're just crazy if you think i could look up how to do something, if it's not written in big bold letters.  preferably bigger letters than the actual button that does the thing."
[09:04] <catxk> one more thing... I got a 60 GB harddrive in my laptop divided in 20gb for windows and 40gb for files like music etc... I dont mind reinstalling windows and splitting the 20gb, but I dont want to alter the contents of the 40gb partition
[09:04] <catxk> is this at all possible?
[09:04] <Random12341> all you people are close minded fools. It has nothing to do with windows. Its like saying its better to have to drive a car with a hand on each wheel to steer it rather then using a steering wheel.
[09:04] <darkholme> I have been trying with to install ubuntu edgy in a laptop computer Dell XPS M1710 but it is not running the setup...I don't know why... the cd is ok because I have tested it in other machine and it installs fine... and the boot order is ok because Im able to install ubuntu dapper drake
[09:04] <darkholme> i just want to know why I cant run the install of edgy
[09:04] <darkholme> :S
[09:05] <coopster> rickyfingers, i highly recommend eclipse, it does compiling, debugging, CVS and SVN sychronizing, etc...
[09:05] <Bohica032> hey billy, I guess my chat program doesn't allow me to PM you
[09:05] <Random12341> perhaps you just cant handle more then one thing happening at a time, but for multitasking, no person in their right mind would prefer commandline. period.
[09:05] <ropha> Random12341, and again, as anyone with any computer experience hear will tell you, it is more efficient, faster, easier and more precise to use the console
[09:05] <billy> Bohica032, which chat program?
[09:05] <Random12341> lmfao.
[09:05] <cables> darkholme, a bug perhaps? Also try re-burning the CD in case for some reason it's not reading the CD in that computer.
[09:05] <Bohica032> conversation for MAC
[09:05] <ropha> Random12341, come back in a couple years when you have experience with it, and actually know what you are talkiing about
[09:05] <coopster> Random12341, ahahah.  guess what?  how many consoles do you think i can open up?
[09:05] <Bohica032> is there something better out there?
[09:05] <procyon> Random12341: Show me how to quickly parse a log file for events on a certain date, add that data to a new file and ftp that to a server using windows gui
[09:05] <rickyfingers> speaking of installing edgy on a laptop, I convinced my little brother to install it on an inspiron 8100 (dell) last weekend.
[09:05] <darkholme> I think is a bug regarding my cd drive but im not sure
[09:05] <Rooy> Bohica032: no, the freenode server requires registered nicks for PM
[09:05] <ropha> Random12341, go google "screen" ... jeez, is it me, or are these ppl getting dumber?
[09:06] <Rooy> !register | Bohica032
[09:06] <ubotu> Bohica032: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:06] <Random12341> lmfao. you are fools.
[09:06] <coopster> Random12341, GUIs have a purpose.  it is _not_ flexibility.  if you think that, you're missing the point of having a window with buttons instead of an infinitely expandable scripting language.  period.
[09:06] <rickyfingers> When he was finished, the w, s, and x buttons didn't work on the keyboard.
[09:06] <Random12341> all three of you meet ignore. :)
[09:06] <nalioth> ropha: please be civil
[09:06] <billy> Bohica032, look at your left hand column.  You should see my name.  Click on it.
[09:06] <ropha> procyon, heh, i was going to go there too ... with a nice awk script
[09:06] <liuxh> hello,everybody
[09:06] <rickyfingers> Any one know what might be causing the problem (besides a busted keyboard>?
[09:06] <cosmo_> this makes 3 days I have been figting with this and 3 reinstalls, I am running edgy, have a Gforce 6600GT a amptron cs17 CRT on the primary display and a optiquest q71 CRT connected to DVI out(with a CRT converter that came with the card) every time I try and follow the guides I have found to enable both with twinview it toasts the xorg.conf anyone able to help?
[09:06] <liuxh> hello
[09:06] <billy> darkholme, it could be.  the feisty experts are in #ubuntu+1
[09:07] <ajayc> wtf whenevr I open java.freenode.net in firefox it crashes!!! other java apps work
[09:07] <ajayc> any idea?
[09:07] <ropha> procyon, let's pipe some commands with a GUI ... wait a sec ....
[09:07] <darkholme> but ...i tried also with another distro: Zabayon
[09:07] <darkholme> and the same is happening...
[09:07] <procyon> haha
[09:07] <darkholme> Im able to install only ubuntu dapper drake
[09:07] <billy> darkholme, are you sure you have boot from CD enabled in the BIOS?
[09:08] <coopster> eh, either way, linux is not just a console, but windows is (or is trying to be) just a GUI.  i like options. ;)
[09:08] <billy> darkholme, you could always install dapper and then upgrade.
[09:08] <darkholme> yes...It's true...but it takes hours...
[09:08] <Random12341> i dont understand this version of azureus. I think its downloading a torrent. the files have been created in the directory i specified, however, i cant get the azureus to show me anything about whats going on. its a blank window.
[09:08] <darkholme> actually i have right now edgy
[09:08] <darkholme> because i installed dapper and then upgraded
[09:08] <ropha> coopster, and the best thing? I started on a VAX back in the stone ages, and I can still use most of the same commands with todays *nixes
[09:08] <darkholme> but I need a clean edgy
[09:09] <darkholme> :S
[09:09] <procyon> ropha, geez a vax
[09:09] <ropha> procyon, as i say, the stone ages
[09:09] <billy> darkholme, so neither Edgy nor Feisty will install from CD, but Dapper will?
[09:09] <rickyfingers> ouch eclipse won't run because it's saying there's no jre but I thought open office (which I have) uses java?
[09:09] <darkholme> exactly...
[09:10] <cosmo_> on another subject anyone know of a guide for a newbie intro to terminal commands?
[09:10] <procyon> ropha, i didnt even exist when those first came into existance
[09:10] <darkholme> I have tried also with Feisty and it's not running the setup
[09:10] <ropha> procyon, LOL
[09:10] <rickyfingers> cosmo_ not to be a jerk, but try man man
[09:10] <rickyfingers> and man bash
[09:10] <darkholme> even with the alternate cd
[09:10] <darkholme> is very strange
[09:10] <darkholme> :S
[09:10] <billy> cosmo_ : http://www.linux.org/lessons/
[09:10] <mattyv> rickyfingers: Ubuntu ships with the Free Software Foundation java, that's what office uses. Maybe eclipse can't find it
[09:10] <nalioth> !tell cosmo_ about cli
[09:11] <ardchoille> !bash | cosmo_
[09:11] <ubotu> cosmo_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:11] <ropha> cosmo_, or google for general unix commands
[09:11] <kraypius> rooy, why isnt it chaning my emerald themes when I select them?
[09:11] <billy> darkholme, yes, that is strange.  I'd still recommend you ask the folks in #ubuntu+1.  They're privy to the differences in editions more so than I.
[09:11] <billy> Bohica032, you there?
[09:11] <Bohica032> ok so i want to register my nick but what and where?
[09:11] <rickyfingers> mattyv: I'm a little miffed because this is the first time in months that synaptic didn't install something perfectly.
[09:12] <ardchoille> !register | Bohica032
[09:12] <ubotu> Bohica032: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:12] <ropha> Bohica032, /msg nickserv register <passwd>
[09:12] <darkholme> #ubuntu+1 is another channel?
[09:12] <darkholme> in this server?
[09:12] <ardchoille> yes
[09:12] <Bohica032> ok where do i write that?
[09:12] <Rooy> kraypius: wierd, last time i use emerald, just clicking on one applies it instantly
[09:12] <ropha> Bohica032, right here!
[09:12] <billy> darkholme, yes.  Server > Join Channel
[09:12] <ropha> Bohica032, then do /msg nickserv identify <passwd>
[09:12] <Random12341> well i've had fun with the dicktards of tonight. good night everyone. :) Ropha: someday you should i dunno, grow a brain cell and stop being a fanboy. :)
[09:13] <ropha> lol
[09:13] <coopster>  i just wrote an awesome howto in ubuntu's wiki, and then firefox ate it after i previewed it.  anyone know if firefox caches POST actions, or if ubuntu's wiki caches previewed pages?
[09:13] <mattyv> rickyfingers: understood, there is possibly a mistake in /etc/alternatives, but I'm a bit of a noob in that area
[09:13] <darkholme> ok thanks for the advice!
[09:13] <rickyfingers> now, if I use synaptic to install sun-java5 or whatever, is that going to hose my other applications that use a different java?
[09:13] <ropha> he got owned, cried, and ran away home :)
[09:13] <billy> coopster:  I've salvaged forum posts with the backspace button.  Not sure about your case though.
[09:13] <kosnick> hi all. I have installed the icecast2 server with synaptic.But i can not access even the icecast directory. It was built (during the "synaptic" process) with the icecast user. Any ideas? (someone suggested to run the icecast daemon on rc.conf but there is no rc.conf)
[09:14] <mattyv> rickyfingers: Try java -version to check you have something
[09:14] <procyon> Random lacked heart
[09:14] <nalioth> rickyfingers: no, it will not
[09:14] <nalioth> !offtopic
[09:14] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:14] <nalioth> rickyfingers: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[09:14] <nalioth> hi lisapc
[09:14] <m4t> kosnick : try reading the man page?
[09:14] <ropha> !annoying_ops|nalioth
[09:14] <lisapc> nalioth, hello
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about annoying_ops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <rickyfingers> nalioth: will do
[09:14] <cosmo_> nalioth: thanks for that link
[09:14] <bonii> .win 6
[09:15] <lisapc> how can I create a DVD menu etc ready to burn to DVD?
[09:15] <madsrh> When I boot processlist writes: "Checking root file system      FAILED", Why and can I fix it?
[09:15] <kraypius> I HATE RED
[09:15] <m4t> kosnick : and make sure you have the configuration file edited properly
[09:15] <kraypius> :P
[09:16] <nanana> oh noes
[09:16] <Rooy> kraypius: you can select GTK window decorator
[09:16] <z9999> We followed some instructions for our nvidia graphics card and now can only get a login window, after telling us we have no driver for the video card installed. Anyone know how to get the driver reinstalled from this point?
[09:16] <Rooy> kraypius: back to orange :)
[09:16] <noob> Mounting a newly installed hard drive, any body?
[09:17] <eroll> anyone know how to change the style of the taskbars while using beryl/xgl?
[09:17] <kraypius> rooy, i figured it out.. i have to reload the decorator each time i change it
[09:17] <madsrh> noob -> theres a guide in the forum, worked really well for me!
[09:17] <ardchoille> noob: Do yo have a mount point made for the drive and have you formatted it yet?
[09:17] <kosnick> m4t : i downloaded with synaptic. i can not have access to the directory at all . permission denied
[09:17] <Thinkpad_Guru> eroll, you can right click, go to properties, and manual change them, or use a metacity theme that automaticly changes the color
[09:18] <Th3o> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu feisty (hda2) from another installed feisty (hda11), but when step 5 starts (after partitions) it tells to me, that it couldn't be able to umount hda11, so how could install ubuntu from another installed version?
[09:18] <Rooy> kraypius: left a message on #beryl and someone will get attention, i'm not sure that's the way it works
[09:18] <noob> This is an old hard drive of mine, and when I run sudo fdisk -l, it's detected
[09:18] <Rooy> kraypius: yesterday lupine_85 was really helpful for me on #beryl
[09:18] <eroll> i tried using the "theme" in system>preferences, but i get the error that says "the default theme schemas could not be found on your system. this means that you probably don't have metacity installed or that your gconf is configured incorrectly
[09:18] <noob> but other than that.. not really sure what I'm doing
[09:18] <kosnick> m4t the directory which was created belongs to "icecast" user . I dont know the password , it was created during the process
[09:19] <m4t> kosnick: edit the files with sudo
[09:19] <fiction> !nvidia
[09:19] <kraypius> k
[09:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:19] <Rooy> !mount
[09:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:19] <m4t> try going to a console and typing 'sudo -c'
[09:19] <nanana> nalioth, it's good you do your only job of telling people when they are OT or not being polite ... but why don't you earn your keep and actually *do* something. Dopey cunt
[09:19] <Rooy> !diskmounter | noob
[09:19] <nanana> :)
[09:19] <nanana> bye
[09:19] <ubotu> noob: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:19] <m4t> you could even do 'sudo su - icecast'
[09:19] <Bohica032> noob - I just finished the same problem
[09:19] <madsrh> ANYONE, When I boot processlist writes: "Checking root file system FAILED", Why and can I fix it?
[09:20] <noob> Bohica, what was your solution?
[09:20] <Bohica032> PM me
[09:20] <nalioth> !register | noob
[09:20] <ubotu> noob: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:20] <ardchoille> Bohica032: he can't, he isn't identified to nickserv
[09:21] <Bohica032> oh...I just did that too...LOL
[09:21] <eroll> i'm trying to theme the taskbars and the icons but no luck
[09:21] <hole> hello i'mtrying to read my ntfs partition but when i enabled it in disk manager and clicked browse it told me i didn't have the permissions necessary to view it
[09:22] <ardchoille> eroll: System -> Preferences -> Themes
[09:22] <Bohica032> ardchoille - can you PM me so to see if my registration worked?
[09:22] <kosnick> m4t : with sudo su i will need the icecast password , right? i dont have it
[09:22] <ardchoille> Bohica032: It worked, you're id'd
[09:22] <m4t> no
[09:22] <Flannel> kosnick: you don't need to sudo su, just sudo.
[09:22] <Thinkpad_Guru> I was on here last night with a Samba issue, it would automaticly just quit, in the middle of a network transfer.  I came to figure out, that there were two files that had the same name but with different case.  I didn't catch this at first, but then It dawned on me about Windoze case insensitivity, and just renamed the file and it worked.  Make note of this if someone has a similar issue..
[09:22] <eroll> ardchoille, tried that... gives me this error
[09:22] <eroll> i tried using the "theme" in system>preferences, but i get the error that says "the default theme schemas could not be found on your system. this means that you probably don't have metacity installed or that your gconf is configured incorrectly
[09:22] <nalioth> kosnick: don't use sudo su
[09:22] <ardchoille> eroll: You using beryl?
[09:23] <eroll> yeah
[09:23] <kosnick> m4t : i will give it a try then
[09:23] <ardchoille> eroll: /join #ubuntu-effects
[09:23] <kosnick> sudo su -icecast
[09:23] <kosnick> i meant
[09:23] <Flannel> kosnick: no.
[09:23] <nalioth> kosnick: use sudo -i instead
[09:23] <Flannel> kosnick: sudo icecast
[09:23] <snaidis> My wine uninstaller doesn't work
[09:23] <Flannel> kosnick: but, you shouldn't need to sudo icecast anyway.
[09:23] <nalioth> this is not debian, kosnick
[09:23] <snaidis> It doesn't uninstall...
[09:23] <kosnick> ???
[09:24] <Bohica032> Where can i find a good IRC program for ubuntu
[09:24] <m4t> kosnick: yup
[09:25] <kosnick> the direcotory ,from bulit . belongs to "icecast user who was created during built and i dont know anything about it (i mean password) . Sudo wont give me access to the directory (at least this wont help -> sudo cd /etc/icecast2
[09:25] <m4t> dont be afraid to use google
[09:25] <kosnick> )
[09:25] <Flannel> kosnick: `sudo /etc/init.d/icecast2 restart` will restart your icecast server
[09:25] <ardchoille> Bohica032: xchat (gui) is good, or irssi (text-based) is also good
[09:25] <Thinkpad_Guru> bohica032 I use and like X-chat-gnome
[09:25] <Flannel> kosnick: you don't need to use sudo to change to that directory, just cd to it
[09:25] <m4t> kosnick: by the way, you can get a root shell by typing 'sudo -c'
[09:25] <Flannel> m4t, kosnick, sudo -i, but we don't need a root shell at this point, or shouldnt
[09:25] <m4t> then just edit the files with nano or whatever you prefer
[09:25] <kosnick> Flannel : shouldnt that work with restart? Last night i closed my pc and this mornigh stil the same
[09:26] <m4t> o
[09:26] <hole> hello i'mtrying to read my ntfs partition but when i enabled it in disk manager and clicked browse it told me i didn't have the permissions necessary to view it
[09:26] <Joshooa> Bohica032: Gaim works good for Ubuntu I think
[09:26] <Flannel> kosnick: what?
[09:26] <m4t> root shells are fun though
[09:26] <Thinkpad_Guru> bohica032 X-chat-gnome is a slightly simpler version of regular full feature X-chat, and has some cool plugins.
[09:26] <magic_ninja> is the geforce 7800 osoc a very good card?
[09:26] <kosnick> Flannel : the restart of the server should have been during restart of the computer. I closed it last night but this morning same things happen
[09:27] <Joshooa> magic_ninja: My brother has that one, it's cool and can run Doom 3 on Ultra, but it has problems with his driver and fails on startup sometimes
[09:27] <Joshooa> magic_ninja: But he's in Winblows
[09:27] <Flannel> kosnick: `cd /etc/icecast2` gives you what?
[09:27] <kosnick> Flannen : or not ? Am i wrong about it?
[09:27] <Flannel> kosnick: that's correct.  Restarting your computer will restart icecast.
[09:27] <kosnick> Flannel : on sec
[09:27] <mattyv> Bohica032: My personal fav is xchat, but give them all a try and see what you like
[09:27] <Bohica032> thanks
[09:28] <ajayc> guys I just upgraded to edgy and with easyubuntu I installed everything now when I open firefox and java.freenode.net firefox crashes!!!
[09:28] <magic_ninja> so its worth 90 dollars
[09:28] <m4t> make sure the init file is +x
[09:28] <kosnick> Flannel : bash: cd: /etc/icecast2 : Permission denied
[09:28] <Flannel> kosnick: eh?  That shouldn't be.
[09:28] <kosnick> yeap i know
[09:28] <kosnick> but still its happening
[09:28] <Flannel> kosnick: did you fiddle with the permissions?
[09:28] <ajayc> oh come on someone help
[09:28] <mkquist> hey all
[09:29] <kosnick> nope nothing
[09:29] <Flannel> kosnick: what are the perms on that folder?  (cd /etc, then ls -al | grep icecast)
[09:29] <kosnick> it was created like it. And it belongs to icecast user
[09:29] <kosnick> one sec
[09:29] <mkquist> having grub problems...  rt now ive got a machine that i tried to use SGD to fix and its just filling the screen w/the word GRUB on reboot
[09:30] <billy> is there a way to become superuser in nautilus to change the permissions on a folder?
[09:30] <Flannel> billy: `gksudo nautilus` will get you a root nautilus.  Just close it the moment you're finished.
[09:30] <Thinkpad_Guru> billy gksudo nautilus
[09:30] <billy> Flannel, Thinkpad_Guru, thank you.
[09:30] <Thinkpad_Guru> billy n/p :)
[09:31] <kosnick> ls -la icecast : ---> "ls : icecast2 : permission denied" .
[09:31] <kosnick> my gosh
[09:31] <kosnick> really wieard , isnt it?>?
[09:31] <Flannel> kosnick: no no.  `ls -al | grep icecast`
[09:31] <kosnick> ah yes you want all of them , wait
[09:32] <Flannel> kosnick: no, not all of them.  Just the icecast line, that's what the grep is for
[09:32] <kosnick> yes on moment
[09:32] <Thinkpad_Guru> ajayc you try reinstalling java, or firefox, just incase something got poo'd up in the upgrade?
[09:32] <kosnick> dwrxwrx--- 4 icecast2 icecast
[09:32] <kosnick> and more things i believe you dont need
[09:33] <Flannel> kosnick: what user:group?
[09:33] <Flannel> kosnick: and, is this edgy or dapper?
[09:33] <noob> Fdisk detects a newly installed hard drive, but when I go to mount it it says "mount: can't find /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[09:33] <billy> Thinkpad_Guru, so just setting myself to owner and setting root to read/write should set everything cool, right?
[09:33] <noob> What am I doing wrong?
[09:33] <kosnick> user and group as mentioned . 6.10
[09:34] <m4t> kosnick check your system log
[09:34] <m4t> make sure that there is an init file for icecast to start
[09:34] <kosnick> m4t : what for? and where are the logs?
[09:34] <Flannel> kosnick: I suggest removing icecast2 package (with --purge) and then reinstalling it.
[09:34] <m4t> make sure you edit and possibly rename the icecast configuration file so the program knows where to find it
[09:34] <kosnick> Flannel : already did (twice- icluding just using apt-get install instead of synaptic)
[09:34] <m4t> kosnick: http://www.google.com/search?q=icecast+configuration
[09:35] <ajayc> what is the alternate cd?
[09:35] <ajayc> what is an alternate cd?!
[09:36] <Flannel> kosnick: very odd.  Well, alright.  We'll assume this is correct then.  Ok.  So, since I imagine you don't want to use sudo a couple of times, go ahead and `sudo -i` to get a root shell, then you can navigate to /etc/icecast2 and fiddle with the config stuff.  Once you're done, make sure you exit out of the root shell
[09:36] <billy> ajayc:  an alternate CD is designed for install only, no LiveCD.
[09:36] <walrusman> is there any advantage to having version 7.04 (fiesty fawn) over 6.10 (edgy eft)?
[09:36] <kosnick> m4t : i read yesterday somewhere that i need to change something about rc.conf . But i have no rc.conf file
[09:36] <ajayc> billy where can I download it from?
[09:36] <billy> walrusman:  most say yes, but feisty talk is in #ubuntu+1.
[09:36] <billy> ajayc:  you want Edgy?
[09:37] <kosnick> Flannel ok it is working this way
[09:37] <ajayc> fiesty billy
[09:37] <m4t> u better be playin some good music with that
[09:37] <kosnick> m4t : after all that trouble youmean?
[09:37] <noob> #ubuntu+1
[09:37] <noob> whoops
[09:38] <billy> ajayc:  you sure you don't want to wait a few weeks until it is officially released?  it's still in alpha.
[09:38] <kosnick> what is the differrence between sudo -s and sudo -i
[09:38] <ajayc> billy i can update cant I?
[09:38] <walrusman> billy: thanks
[09:38] <billy> ajayc:  yes.
[09:38] <ajayc> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/feisty-desktop-i386.iso <---- is this the one?
[09:38] <billy> !update | ajayc
[09:38] <ubotu> ajayc: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:38] <eck> !alternate
[09:39] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[09:39] <josch> hi!
[09:39] <kosnick> m4t and Flannel : what is the difference between sudo -s and sudo -i ?
[09:39] <ajayc> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/feisty-alternate-i386.iso <this one?
[09:39] <eck> ajayc: yes, that is the alternate cd
[09:40] <eck> kosnick: whether the shell in /etc/passwd is run when you execute the command, it isn't a big difference
[09:40] <billy> ajayc:  yes, that'll do you, but keep in mind there are features that will be missing until the official release next month.
[09:40] <RaidenCX> ubuntu for noobs? do i go for it? and is the dvd better?
[09:40] <ajayc> is this like the install we used to have in 4.10?
[09:40] <eck> kosnick: it is documented in the man page :-)
[09:40] <billy> RaidenCX, just do it man.
[09:40] <eck> ajayc: i believe so, it is the old debian text installer
[09:40] <ajayc> that wonderful
[09:40] <kosnick> eck : yes i am checking it right now
[09:41] <eck> i would suspect that for most purposes you can use them interchangeably
[09:41] <RaidenCX> do i have to erase a logical partition to create another one on the hdd? of 3 partitions, primary has WinXP, and i want Ubuntu on a logical. Any tools (no fdisk please)
[09:41] <sensoph> anyone in here have any success with getting a geforce 8800 gts to boot up into x at all?
[09:41] <kosnick> eck : thx
[09:42] <eck> RaidenCX: you only need to delete a partition if you have four primary partitions and want to have more than four partitions
[09:42] <RaidenCX> oh
[09:42] <eck> RaidenCX: in that case, you would need to delete a primary partition and create a logical partition in its place
[09:42] <RaidenCX> hmm...yes!
[09:42] <kosnick> Flannel and m4t thx for your time
[09:43] <RaidenCX> and KDE or Gnome? after my upgrade i'll have a C2duo and a 7600GTX
[09:43] <JHSands> so I'm thinking, if I use this to backup evolution, what programs do I need to restart after all the killing? http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/03/how-to-backup-evolution/
[09:43] <eck> RaidenCX: try them both out, people have very strong opinions both ways
[09:43] <RaidenCX> and i do want it to look sweet
[09:43] <RaidenCX> ok eck, thanks for your time
[09:44] <Bohica032_> ok i'm back
[09:44] <Bohica032_> Got the xChat
[09:44] <blitzchecker> hi
[09:45] <eck> JHSands: i think you'd want to restart your gnome session, i'm not sure that you can bring gconfd back up correctly in a manual way (or at the least, it would be difficult)
[09:46] <josch> gt
[09:46] <blitzchecker> i fixed my xgl problem, but now ther's a new...
[09:46] <JHSands> eck: do you think using the "simple backup config" with "use recommended backup settings" would backup evolution and solve my problem?
[09:47] <blitzchecker> when i log in with xgl ther's only a black screen and a mouse cursor...
[09:47] <blitzchecker> !xgl
[09:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:48] <eck> JHSands: what is your problem?
[09:49] <JHSands> eck: I'm paranoid about hard drive failures and want to backup my evolution settings/email/contacts daily
[09:50] <eck> JHSands: I would run the tar command daily without stopping gconfd/evolution, and then periodically (maybe once a week) do it the right way with gconf/evolution stopped
[09:51] <GenNMX> Can I have I have two X servers showing something on two different monitors using two different video cards without using Xinerama?
[09:52] <eck> JHSands: you could also run something like isync or fetchmail and have evolution read the email from that if you are just interested in backing up mail
[09:52] <eck> (that is sort of what i do)
[09:53] <JHSands> will check into isync
[09:53] <eck> i use isync and a local imap server on my laptop
[09:54] <eck> just because i was tired of evolution not properly synchronizing my imap email if I checked it from more than one computer
[09:54] <yarza> helo everybody
[09:55] <JHSands> *still looking for crontab gui in Ubuntu*
[09:56] <eck> haha, crontabe is pretty simple, just run 'crontab -e'
[09:57] <eck> here's one to get you started http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10868/
[09:58] <eck> GenNMX: i think it would be pretty simple if you were ok with running two different login sessions
[09:59] <JHSands> 59 23 * * * root /home/jhsands/evolution-backup.sh  will back it up daily? (considering I have proper commands in the .sh file)
[09:59] <eck> um, set the mailto variable to an empty string, or else the local user will get mail
[10:00] <eck> and why do you have root in there?
[10:00] <JHSands> eck: cuz I'm a n00b
[10:00] <eck> the part after the time component is the command, so just have the line with the location of the script
[10:01] <JHSands> so: 59 23 * * * /home/jhsands/evolution-backup.sh
[10:02] <eck> yes, that looks right (make sure there the script is executable though)
[10:03] <eck> and you should name the backup something like evolution-backup-`date +%f`.tar.gz
[10:03] <eck> oops, date +%F
[10:03] <JHSands> awesome :) thanks
[10:03] <eck> it will create backups like evolution-backup-2007-03-18.tar.gz
[10:03] <Bohica032> What is the easiest way to install LAMP
[10:03] <Bohica032> I have the server CD
[10:04] <eck> Bohica032: there is an install lamp option when you run the installer
[10:04] <mn> :)
[10:04] <Bohica032> yeah but I'm running desktop
[10:04] <eck> JHSands: for extra credit, delete backups more than X days old :-)
[10:05] <Bohica032> how can I set up LAMP off the server CD
[10:05] <eck> Bohica032: apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[10:06] <eck> if you are running your desktop just install the packages with apt, the server cd would only be for if you are doing a new install
[10:06] <Bohica032> this is what I got "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:06] <Bohica032> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[10:06] <Bohica032> "
[10:06] <JHSands> eck: is the ` the thing by 1
[10:06] <eck> yes
[10:07] <eck> to test it out, try: echo evolution-backup-`date +%F`.tar.gz
[10:07] <khaoshizon> whats up people, just wanted to ask just in case anyone knew how to fix this. I clean installed ubuntu a couple of hours ago and ive been installing the patches, ati drivers and samba. now my pc is just crawling, it takes a really long time to open applications.
[10:07] <LaNCeloT_RW> how do I use a transparent "terminal" ?? i forgot the name of application that do this
[10:08] <eck> LaNCeloT_RW: most terminals have such a feature... the default terminal in gnome does if you go to edit > current profile
[10:08] <eck> it's under effects
[10:08] <billy> what's the "commercial" repository?
[10:08] <runtime> hi
[10:08] <billy> hi runtime.
[10:08] <pisedoffcracker1> can anyone tell me if you can run fedora core in virtualbox
[10:09] <runtime> hey guys
[10:09] <runtime> tell me what mediaplayer to use in ubuntu
[10:09] <eck> khaoshizon: look at gnome-system-monitor and see if you can see anything using a lot of ram/cpu
[10:09] <Bohica032> !LAMP | Bohica032
[10:09] <rambo3> !codecs | runtime
[10:09] <ubotu> runtime: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:09] <eck> make sure to set all processes in the view thing
[10:09] <rambo3> !bug 92433
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug 92433 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <JHSands> !raid
[10:10] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:10] <runtime> what u mean freee formats?
[10:11] <runtime> ubotu!!!
[10:11] <nospi> runtime, lol
[10:11] <nospi> runtime, ubotu is a bot
[10:11] <nospi> runtime, so you'll have to trigger him
[10:11] <nalioth> runtime: visit the page ubotu showed you
[10:12] <runtime> what is ubotu?
[10:12] <Flannel> !ubotu
[10:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:13] <runtime> lol
[10:13] <khaoshizon> eck: ok, ill get back to you on that. im transferring my files from the other laptop to this computer.
[10:13] <mattyv> rambo3: I really can't believe that bug ever came into existance, some people have strange minds...phallic :/ whatever
[10:13] <runtime> ubotu hi
[10:13] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:13] <khaoshizon> as of now it shows 60%+ cpu, 20%+ ram
[10:13] <runtime> whats up?
[10:13] <runtime> ubotu how are you?
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how are you? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <runtime> lolz
[10:13] <khaoshizon> 80% cpu rather
[10:14] <runtime> ubotu media player?
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about media player? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <runtime> what media player to use ubotu?
[10:14] <rickyfingers> runtime: vlc is pretty good
[10:14] <runtime> vlc
[10:14] <JHSands> so now my major dilemna... I have an acer ast180 that has built in raid... and i only currently have 1 HD installed with Ubuntu on it... what is the best way to add another disk?
[10:14] <runtime> wait to try
[10:15] <runtime> i am downloading vlc
[10:15] <rambo3> mattyv, it is just funny that some noticed it.
[10:15] <mattyv> rambo3: yeah i think so too, never would have occurred to me at all
[10:15] <runtime> what is your favourite operating system?
[10:16] <JHSands> runtime: dos 5
[10:16] <mattyv> Oh well, quite like the newest splash when the icons are on it
[10:16] <runtime> lolz
[10:16] <JHSands> and pc-dos at that
[10:16] <eck> khaoshizon: what process is using all the cpu?
[10:16] <runtime> my favourite its mac osx 10.4
[10:16] <khaoshizon> umm
[10:16] <runtime> and unix
[10:16] <runtime> and linux of cource :P
[10:16] <rickyfingers> runtime: it depends on what applications i want to use...
[10:16] <runtime> no it is not
[10:16] <Bohica032> need help installing LAMP on desktop
[10:16] <runtime> cause dos applications
[10:17] <Flannel> Bohica032: what do you need help with?
[10:17] <runtime> u can run them anywhere
[10:17] <JHSands> i wonder if i could h4x0r some systems with a qbasic program?
[10:17] <runtime> even in linux enviroment
[10:17] <eck> haha, real hackers use qbasic
[10:17] <runtime> 67% of vlc
[10:17] <fishor> hi all! i have one problem with use of WINS on my desktop. This desktop is konnectet to the student network with two subnets. the second subnet is thrue router available, i can see the machines with nautilus but i can't acces it (i can access machines in my subnet). It's look like this is nautilus specifick becous thre command line there is no problem. Please help me lazy web, what i macking wrong  (em i so stupid or it's bug )
[10:17] <Bohica032> Flannel - I got the server CD and I want to instal LAMP onto ubuntu desktop
[10:17] <rickyfingers> Bohica032 if memory serves, the easiest way is just to use synaptic to install apache with the apropriate plugins
[10:17] <runtime> qbasic lolz
[10:17] <runtime> 80%
[10:17] <Flannel> Bohica032: eh?  So, you have a desktop installation already?
[10:18] <runtime> one question guys?
[10:18] <khaoshizon> eck: no big numbers with the running programs
[10:18] <runtime> can i ask you something?
[10:18] <rickyfingers> then you can control apache through system->administration->services
[10:18] <Joshooa> When I am trying to install stuff, is there a way to make it get stuff from the internet that's on the Ubuntu DVD, so I don't have to always have it in my drive?
[10:18] <eck> khaoshizon: do you have the view set to all processes?
[10:18] <Bohica032> Flannel - yes I got desktop up and running, now I want to ad LAMP
[10:18] <Bohica032> I'm not code oriented
[10:18] <Flannel> Joshooa: remove the DVD from your repository list
[10:18] <runtime> i want to make my ubuntu desktop look like osx
[10:18] <Bohica032> I got ubuntu today
[10:19] <Flannel> Bohica032: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  walks you through adding it
[10:19] <Joshooa> Flannel: But I still want those options, aren't they available online?
[10:19] <rickyfingers> runtime: don't ask if you can ask a question, just ask
[10:19] <runtime> but how?
[10:19] <Hyper-cool> has anyone gotten video support to work with gaim?
[10:20] <mattyv> runtime: "i want to make my ubuntu desktop look like osx" It seems everyone does at first, I got over that stage a few weeks into ubuntu use ;)
[10:20] <Flannel> Joshooa: Yes, but it needs to think about where everything is.  Uncommenting the CD, will make stuff only online, and you'll no longer be asked for the DVD
[10:20] <runtime> how to make my ubuntu look like osx? and with beryl osx theme of cource
[10:20] <khaoshizon> nautilus - 25, gnome vfs-daemon - 20+
[10:20] <Flannel> runtime: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[10:20] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: iirc it doesn't have it yet
[10:20] <billy> are there security issues with using bittorrent?
[10:20] <mattyv> What protocol you using Hyper-cool ?
[10:20] <runtime> i am seeking for osx beryl theme
[10:20] <runtime> but i can't quite find
[10:20] <khaoshizon> whose are the only things i see. im using edgy btw
[10:20] <Flannel> runtime: #ubuntu-effects or #beryl, not here.
[10:21] <rambo3> !repeat | runtime
[10:21] <ubotu> runtime: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:21] <Bohica032> Flannel - what command do I use?
[10:21] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, i want to do yahoo vid chat through gaim. i found a site that claims it's possible but i can't get the source files to make correctly
[10:21] <Flannel> Bohica032: That page walks you through all the commands
[10:21] <runtime> do u know how to modify?
[10:21] <eck> khaoshizon: are you still transferring files?
[10:22] <Bohica032> Flannel - I don't want to sound like pain in the a$$, but it's not doing anything
[10:22] <Bohica032> I pasted the command and nothing
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> The compiler ends with the following message.........checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... no
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> *** exact error that occurred. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> configure: error:
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> *** GLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GLib
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> *** development headers installed. The latest version of GLib is
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> *** always available at http://www.gtk.org/.
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> ............. i went to gtk.org and got the glib files and installed them and still got this error
[10:22] <eck> billy: i think bittorrent is farily safe...
[10:22] <Hyper-cool> yikes.... didn't mean to do that...
[10:22] <khaoshizon> yeah, but even when i wasnt it would open up programs and folders slowly. and when i log in, the screen where it loads the windows manager, nautilus etc takes a long time to load as well
[10:22] <runtime> ubotu hi
[10:22] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: It might be added, I just wasn't aware of it. Kopete does video for some protocols I think
[10:22] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:23] <runtime> ubotu hi
[10:23] <Flannel> Bohica032: Which command did you do?
[10:23] <runtime> this bot rocks
[10:23] <Bohica032> apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[10:23] <khaoshizon> you think samba might have something to do with that? i only experienced the problem after installing it
[10:23] <runtime> ubotu apache install?
[10:23] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, can you explain that error i'm getting?
[10:23] <ubotu> apache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 812 kB
[10:23] <eck> khaoshizon: another place to look would be ~/.xsession-errors to see if there is anything weird going on in your gnome session
[10:23] <billy> eck:  thx.  I've been considering using bittorrent, but I have my reservations.  never used before.
[10:23] <runtime> ubotu how to install apache?
[10:23] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Do you have build-essential installed?
[10:23] <runtime> lol ubotu talks me in private
[10:24] <Flannel> Bohica032: You need to read the line before that.  Those are packages you need to install, not a command.
[10:24] <runtime> it says Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[10:24] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, I have no idea.... how do i check
[10:24] <eck> Hyper-cool: run this command to get all the libraries you will need to build it: apt-get build-dep gaim
[10:24] <Bohica032> Flannel - how do I know what package I got
[10:24] <flo> when i bootup on my packard bell laptop i get this starnge list of numbers , then a bug: soft lockup on cpu #0! or something like this then nothing happens, the boot process wont go on , can someone help me?
[10:24] <rambo3> runtime, you have something in common then
[10:24] <Flannel> Bohica032: open up synaptic package manager, and install those packages
[10:24] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: If you haven't installed it on purpose it won't be installed. But check Synaptic
[10:24] <eck> Hyper-cool: well, you still might need one or two things, but that will pretty much grab everything to build gaim
[10:25] <Bohica032> Flannel - I'm a total green horn here, I installed ubuntu today... like 2 hours ago.
[10:25] <runtime> guys i want to setup a website
[10:25] <runtime> in my pc with apache an mysql
[10:25] <Bohica032> same here
[10:25] <ompaul> !lamp > runtime
[10:25] <Flannel> Bohica032: that's fine.  Uh, lets see... System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, I think.
[10:25] <runtime> is it any tool like xampp for ubuntu?
[10:25] <Flannel> runtime: No need for anything silly like xampp, you've got the real thing
[10:26] <eck> i think xampp works on linux, not sure i'd recommend it though...
[10:26] <rambo3> !xampp
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <runtime> maybe i will buy a host
[10:26] <ompaul> runtime, read the note from ubotu and the associated web pages you will have a working web site in install time
[10:26] <runtime> S
[10:26] <runtime> :S
[10:26] <Bohica032> Flannel - I'm in, what's next?
[10:26] <Hyper-cool> ok trying this compile again.....
[10:26] <ompaul> !enter | runtime
[10:26] <ubotu> runtime: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:26] <runtime> OK UBOTU
[10:26] <Hyper-cool> no i'm still getting the same error
[10:27] <ompaul> runtime, caps on is considered shouting
[10:27] <eck> Hyper-cool: you need to run apt-get build-dep gaim
[10:27] <carlesoriol> how can i get the uuid number of a drive for fstab?
[10:27] <eck> gaim has dozens of libraries you will need to be installed
[10:27] <Flannel> Bohica032: You'll want to find each of those packages, then indicate you want to install them by, uh, clicking (maybe double?) them.  Then once you're done selecting packages to install, hit the "apply" button, and you'll install them
[10:27] <eck> it would be a lot of work to get them all individually
[10:27] <Hyper-cool> eck, i just ran it and still got the error
[10:27] <runtime> hey guys
[10:27] <eck> Hyper-cool: pastebin the error
[10:27] <Hyper-cool> just a sec
[10:27] <khaoshizon> eck: the log is kind of long, what do i exactly need to look for?
[10:27] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Ok, probably means that Gaim wants a newer version of glib, my best suggestion is to search the forums for a .deb of the version of Gaim you want
[10:27] <eck> carlesoriol: vol_id
[10:28] <runtime> in future will  be build a robot like ubotu but it will ansewr for all questions
[10:28] <runtime> like in artificial inteligence movie
[10:28] <eck> carlesoriol: in the future, the way i found that out was by running 'apropos uuid'
[10:28] <Bohica032> Flannel - How do I know which is which and for what?
[10:28] <ompaul> runtime, this is not a chat channel it is a support channel please stop with the one liner and the enter key stuff put your full comments on one line and you should be reading that info from the bot about now :)
[10:28] <carlesoriol> eck: Thanks!
[10:28] <Flannel> Bohica032: what?  Take the list from the howto, find those packages (it lists package names).
[10:29] <eck> khaoshizon: i guess you are just looking for anything unusual. there will probably be a lot of things in there even if things are going ok though
[10:29] <ompaul> !nickspam > Noah0504
[10:29] <runtime> ok
[10:29] <khaoshizon> sorry i dont exactly know what im looking for in particular :p this is my first day as a linux user
[10:29] <Hyper-cool> eck, pastebin isn't working....
[10:30] <runtime> do u know the music oceans eleven laser?
[10:30] <runtime> "the ala menthe"
[10:30] <Flannel> runtime: please take it elsewhere
[10:30] <Noah0504> Is the server install the best way for just a basic install with no DE? Or is the alternative install CD the way to go?
[10:30] <runtime> what?
[10:30] <khaos_eating> brb
[10:30] <Hyper-cool> eck, shall i pm it to you?
[10:30] <Flannel> Noah0504: they both do it.
[10:30] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Which pastebin you try?
[10:31] <Flannel> Noah0504: server will get you server kernel, and the lamp pre-install.  You may or may not want the server kernel.
[10:31] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, how many are there? i used http://pastebin.com/
[10:31] <Flannel> Noah0504: Alt. CD has more hardware support
[10:31] <mattyv> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:31] <JHSands> so now my major dilemna... I have an acer ast180 that has built in raid... and i only currently have 1 HD installed with Ubuntu on it... what is the best way to add another disk?
[10:31] <mattyv> Our own ubuntu one :D
[10:31] <runtime> bb ubotu
[10:32] <runtime> good bye
[10:32] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, thanks
[10:32] <Hyper-cool> eck, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10869/
[10:32] <runtime> hi
[10:32] <catxk> the 2gb req hard drive space specififed on the ubuntu site, does that include all programs like open office etc.?
[10:33] <Flannel> catxk: that'll include all of the stuff installed by default, so yes
[10:33] <Noah0504> Flannel: Ahh, okay.  I think the Alt. CD is the way I'll go.  I'm using Debian right now, but I'd like to get Ubuntu installed.  I've got a Compaq Presario 5222 with a 350MHz processor and and 64MB of RAM I'm trying to get up and running.
[10:33] <eck> Hyper-cool: did the buil-dep command install a bunch of packages?
[10:33] <Hyper-cool> eck, yeah... let me look
[10:33] <catxk> Flannel: sweet, thanks
[10:33] <eck> you should _definitely_ have gotten glib
[10:34] <progek> I'm using recordmydesktop but I get a little lag. I'm running Beryl and trying to capture some decent video. Without recording I don't have any lag. Is there any parameters I can add to recordmydesktop to possibly help this lag issue?
[10:34] <Hyper-cool> eck, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10870/
[10:35] <progek> maybe a video of lesser quality
[10:35] <eck> Hyper-cool: install libglib2.0-dev and try to build it again
[10:35] <Hyper-cool> eck, here is the website that i got the vidsupport source from..http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Gaim-Video-and-Voice-Support-104.shtml
[10:36] <Hyper-cool> eck, ok hold on
[10:36] <kira_> Hi all! I have installed Ubuntu 6.06 but i have the Kernel 2.6.15-28-386 installed, but isnt it better to use the 2.6.15-28-k7 kernel cause i have a AMD Athlon XP +2000 ???
[10:36] <eck> oh wait, that was downloaded and installed already
[10:36] <mattyv> Hmm, surprised gaim needed that many extra deps, or is that a total list
[10:36] <Flannel> kira_: yep.  Go ahead and install linux-image-k7
[10:36] <mattyv> Ah nevermind, I think you answered it eck
[10:36] <Hyper-cool> eck, "already the newest version"
[10:36] <eck> make sure you have pkg-config too
[10:37] <mattyv> Gaim is asking for a slightly older version if i'm reading pastebin 1 right
[10:37] <Hyper-cool> eck, same for pkg-config
[10:37] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, shouldn't the new one also work?
[10:37] <Hyper-cool> do i have to downgrade.. lol?
[10:37] <eck> Hyper-cool: wait, did you install two versions?
[10:38] <mattyv> Not sure Hyper
[10:38] <Hyper-cool> eck, i have no idea... should i have had to uninstall the old one?
[10:39] <eck> Hyper-cool: you should just be using the ubuntu one
[10:39] <eck> if you manually installed another version then remove it
[10:39] <eck> otherwise things will just be a mess if you have multiple versions of the same library installed
[10:40] <Bohica032> Flannel - Thanks for your help, it wasn't so bad
[10:40] <Bohica032> Now just to figure out how to make it all work
[10:40] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Which version of Gaim are you trying to install btw?
[10:40] <Hyper-cool> eck, i don't know exactly what you mean. how can i do that. (i've been running linux for a total of 6 hours or so if you can't tell)
[10:41] <Hyper-cool> it is.... version 2.0.0 beta3.1
[10:41] <waxyfresh> im folling these directins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and i keep getting this error:E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate
[10:41] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Then I'll re-iterate the suggestion of looking for a .deb...I've run gaim2 betas by getting debs off ubuntuforums before
[10:42] <mattyv> On dapper anyway
[10:42] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, a .deb of what? the glib?
[10:43] <mattyv> Gaim itself
[10:43] <mattyv> Beta 5 or 6 should be around, I'll help look
[10:43] <Hyper-cool> i'm going to need some tech tutoring here..... what exactly is a .deb file? is it some kind of specific debian file?
[10:44] <Hyper-cool> is it a source?
[10:44] <rambo3> !deb | Hyper-cool
[10:44] <ubotu> Hyper-cool: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[10:44] <jmiller565> !make
[10:44] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:45] <Hyper-cool> thanks bot boy
[10:45] <waxyfresh> im folling these directins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and i keep getting this error:E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate
[10:45] <rambo3> Hyper-cool, it conatains binery data and instructions
[10:45] <mattyv> I might be close to finding you a good link
[10:45] <sensoph>  /quit
[10:45] <jmiller565> !buid-essential | jmiller565
[10:45] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Are you using Ubuntu Edgy?
[10:46] <Hyper-cool> yes
[10:46] <jmiller565> !Edgy
[10:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[10:46] <mattyv> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303232
[10:46] <jmiller565> !Feisty Fawn | jmiller565
[10:46] <waxyfresh> anyone know about setting up via drivers
[10:47] <mattyv> That;s one option, using an extra software source by adding it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:47] <thesaltydog> in my System Menu a lot of entries have been hiddened. Synaptics too!! Why?
[10:47] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: This should be even better http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359466
[10:48] <mattyv> 2nd post gives a link to the /.deb, should make it easy...should
[10:48] <waxyfresh> E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate whats this mean?
[10:49] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, thanks
[10:49] <mattyv> np, Let us know if it works
[10:49] <shockwave1> hi
[10:50] <fotoflo_> hmm im using gnome and multiple desktops and I want to do, say, gedit /etc/passwd from the shell, but i would like it to open on desktop 2... anyone know how to do this?
[10:50] <thesaltydog> synaptics is no more in the System menu!
[10:50] <waxyfresh> how do i fix this ?E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate
[10:50] <shockwave1> where can i check to see how much room i have left on my hard drive?
[10:50] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, these are all i386... i am running amd64 edgy.. that won't do will it?
[10:51] <waxyfresh> thesaltydog: run an update with apt-get
[10:51] <thesaltydog> just did it..
[10:51] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Hmm, no. Check debuntu.org for an x86_64 PACKAGE
[10:51] <fotoflo_> waxyfresh, type sudo synaptic from the terminal
[10:51] <Hyper-cool> ok
[10:51] <mattyv> *package
[10:52] <waxyfresh> fotoflo_: yes?
[10:52] <thesaltydog> waxyfresh, I see it in alacarte, but if I check the box, it will be auto-unchecked again
[10:53] <fotoflo_> waxyfresh, whoops that was for thesaltydog
[10:53] <tovella> shockwave1: in a terminal window, type "df"
[10:53] <fotoflo_> Thesaltydog, type sudo synaptic from the terminal
[10:53] <shockwave1> where can i check to see how much room i have left on my hard drive? I was playing wesnoth, and got a message saying that the auto save couldn't work because there was the disk was full. now even when I try to load a game it just crashes and shuts down the game
[10:53] <shockwave1> tovella:thanks
[10:53] <thesaltydog> fotoflo_ thanks I know how to run synaptics, bit I would like to have it in my System menu..
[10:53] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Otherwise you can use a program called alien to install the official 64bit one, it's not hard and will hopefully work
[10:54] <tovella> shockwave1: actually, "df -h" makes it a little easier to read/understand.
[10:55] <anke>  good morning everybody! I have a pinnacle analog tv card and a ATI graphic card but it doesn't goes! There is something written that there is no overlay! I didn't understand why! Maybe somebody can help me, please
[10:55] <shockwave1> tovella: i have over 6 gigs left so could it be a wesnoth problem
[10:55] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, i can't find a proper deb. how does alien work?
[10:55] <fotoflo_> tovella, do you know how to find out the size of my mysql databases?
[10:56] <tovella> fotoflo_: don't really recall, just now.
[10:56] <waxyfresh> im folling these directins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and i keep getting this error:E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate
[10:56] <fotoflo_> k
[10:56] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Ok, you need to install alien first. Then download the fedora x64 gaim from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=235&package_id=253&release_id=479631
[10:57] <ardchoille> mattyv: alien is dangerous
[10:57] <tovella> fotoflo_: do you use phpmyadmin?
[10:57] <waxyfresh> !alien
[10:57] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:57] <fotoflo_> tovella: no
[10:57] <mattyv> ardchoille: It has had good success with gaim
[10:57] <ardchoille> mattyv: Please dont recommend dangerous things for others.
[10:58] <tovella> fotoflo_: though i don't recall the command to check it, installing phpmyadmin makes it real easy.
[10:58] <mattyv> ardchoille: Your turn to help then
[10:58] <Hyper-cool> mattyv, does any of this explain why i get that error i pastebin'd?
[10:58] <mattyv> No
[10:58] <mattyv> :(
[10:58] <Hyper-cool> lol
[10:58] <waxyfresh> im folling these directins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and i keep getting this error:E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate'
[10:59] <fotoflo_> tovella: ok
[10:59] <fotoflo_> tovella: right now i have the mysql admin app
[11:00] <fotoflo_> tovella, but i generally just use the terminal
[11:02] <fotoflo_> heres the question i came here for actually: i want to write a shell script that launches my default desktop:  whats the shell command to "gedit testfile" in desktop 2?
[11:02] <FP> Hi all
[11:02] <waxyfresh> hi
[11:02] <fotoflo_> generally, if i were to gedit testfile, from the shell, it would open in whichever desktop i am currently using
[11:05] <shockwave1> is there a quick way to delete auto saved games in wesnoth
[11:06] <kingcobra> hey everybody
[11:07] <Hyper-cool> holy crap
[11:07] <Hyper-cool> LATEST NEWS:
[11:07] <Hyper-cool> Oct 07, 2005 - Forward potr of gaim-vv 1.2.0 to gaim cvs head is working. I would like to clarify that gaim-vv isn't completely dead, we're working on merging with gaim. There will be no further gaim-vv releases, as code will be added to the main gaim program.
[11:07] <waxyfresh> im folling these directins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and i keep getting this error:E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate
[11:07] <Hyper-cool> that's why nothing friggin works
[11:08] <locke> Is there anyway to get my external harddrive to allow me to set write permissions? I get an error when trying to chmod saying the file system is read-only =x
[11:08] <Hyper-cool> i'm off to bed
[11:08] <fotoflo_> how do i completely remove a package's configs and reconfigure it from scratch?
[11:08] <grasfrog> hmm ... hello ... in KMediaFactory (kubuntu 6.10) I get the error "non-conforming drawing primitive definition 'rectangle' - how do i get this error away? i just compiled the latest version of kmediafactory ..
[11:08] <Hyper-cool> exit
[11:08] <mattyv> Hyper-cool: Try kopete tomoz
[11:09] <Hyper-cool> will do thanks
[11:09] <mattyv> bye
[11:09] <Hyper-cool> bye
[11:09] <Flannel> waxyfresh: it's xserver-xorg-video-via  not -driver-
[11:10] <Flannel> waxyfresh: er, unless you're on dapper.
[11:10] <kingcobra> what do people here think the best linux bit torrent client is
[11:10] <kingcobra> i know i know !best
[11:10] <Flannel> fotoflo_: "completely remove" in synaptic, or --purge with apt-get
[11:10] <rambo3> !best
[11:10] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:10] <waxyfresh> flannel, 6.10
[11:11] <Flannel> waxyfresh: that's Edgy.  You need the -video- not the -driver-
[11:11] <locke> Does linux not allow usb external harddrives to be writable? =x
[11:11] <fotoflo_> flannel thanks
[11:11] <Flannel> locke: what format is it?
[11:11] <locke> ntfs i would guess
[11:11] <Flannel> !ntfs | locke
[11:11] <waxyfresh> locke you can right click and change file permissions if your root
[11:11] <ubotu> locke: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:11] <billy> is swiftfox in any of the stock repositories?
[11:11] <Flannel> locke: *nix can't write to NTFS by default.
[11:12] <Flannel> billy: no, it can't be.
[11:12] <locke> ah
[11:12] <kingcobra> rambo3 my preferences are that it works the features i require is that it works and the other factors are does it work
[11:12] <billy> Flannel:  it *can't* be?
[11:12] <alimurat> need a hand...
[11:12] <alimurat> help (about beryl)
[11:12] <kingcobra> im asking what do you use
[11:13] <kingcobra> what do the people here use
[11:13] <Flannel> billy: correct.  http://getswiftfox.com/source.htm
[11:13] <waxyfresh> im folling these directins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome and i keep getting this error:E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-via has no installation candidate
[11:13] <ardchoille> alimurat: beryl help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:13] <waxyfresh> oppps
[11:13] <Flannel> kingcobra: bittornado, the ncurses interface.
[11:13] <waxyfresh> nevermind i fot it
[11:13] <alimurat> ok, I'll try, thanks..:)
[11:14] <billy> Flannel:  too bad.  I don't know how to work tarballs.
[11:14] <thcmonkey> when's the final release of feisty out?
[11:14] <alimurat> no response yet from there..:(
[11:14] <ardchoille> thcmonkey: April 19th
[11:14] <Flannel> thcmonkey: the 19th, I think.
[11:15] <tovella> locke: ...writable? =x" seems weird... x is typically an attribute for executable.
[11:15] <EvilPeter> hi there
[11:15] <thcmonkey> i got the pre-release, it's not a great deal different
[11:15] <EvilPeter> i need help please
[11:15] <Flannel> billy: there's a deb available.  If you're dead set on swiftfox
[11:15] <thcmonkey> synaptic doesn't have xchat on it
[11:15] <thcmonkey> only gnome xchat
[11:16] <tovella> EvilPeter: say it.
[11:16] <Flannel> thcmonkey: it is.  But it's in universe
[11:16] <ardchoille> thcmonkey: xchat is in the universe repo, enable universe and update your sources
[11:16] <Flannel> thcmonkey: you'll need to enable universe to install the real xchat
[11:16] <thcmonkey> flannel, sorry to be dense but how do i go about updating that?
[11:16] <Flannel> !universe | thcmonkey
[11:16] <ubotu> thcmonkey: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:17] <ElfeJoyeux> coucou
[11:17] <thcmonkey> flannel: cheers
[11:17] <tovella> EvilPeter: what kind of help do you need?
[11:17] <EvilPeter> ok. i cant start ubuntu. everytime i try it freezes. leaving a very blank beige scree. it started right after i tried to make beryl show some reflections. unfortunayedly beryl is set to start automatically. how do iu removet it from the upstart without being able to see the gui. i'll try to see if i can get into the commandline at the upstart
[11:18] <Flannel> EvilPeter: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[11:18] <EvilPeter> there is a channel called that ?
[11:18] <Flannel> EvilPeter: but, at GDM, under "session" you might be able to choose "failsafe gnome"
[11:18] <Flannel> EvilPeter: yes
[11:19] <EvilPeter> have tried it
[11:19] <EvilPeter> didnt work
[11:19] <Flannel> EvilPeter: alright, then I don't know.  They'll know
[11:20] <EvilPeter> ok.. thanks
[11:21] <EvilPeter> and there is no way u can edit the upstart manager from the commandline
[11:22] <thcmonkey> hmm
[11:22] <thcmonkey> software properties isn't on feisty
[11:22] <kingcobra> Flannel, how do u get the ncurses interface for bittornado
[11:22] <thcmonkey> there's software sources but that doesn't seem right
[11:23] <Flannel> thcmonkey: that's the one
[11:23] <Flannel> thcmonkey: it changes names each release, it seems
[11:23] <thcmonkey> o really, looks very different
[11:24] <Flannel> kingcobra: `btdownloadcurses`, the bittornado package has a half dozen interfaces (bt[tab] [tab] )
[11:24] <ab12> I tryed to isntall apache on my edgy and at the end was this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10872/ can someone tell how can I rid of that error??
[11:25] <Flannel> ab12: er, are you trying to install apache? or apache2?
[11:25] <thcmonkey> hmm... i can't find the settings the website shows
[11:25] <thcmonkey> or anything similar
[11:25] <kingcobra> Flannel, what do i do with `btdownloadcurses`
[11:25] <ab12> Flannel: I thought there was only apache
[11:25] <Flannel> ab12: apache2 is version 2, apache1 is 1.3
[11:26] <grasfrog> does anybody know a komfortable dvd authoring tool (with gui)?
[11:26] <Flannel> kingcobra: give it a torrent file as an argument
[11:26] <grasfrog> it should be really easy
[11:26] <grasfrog> getting an mpeg2 it should prepare the dvd - without menues or anything like that
[11:26] <Flannel> thcmonkey: You'll want to ask in #ubuntu+1, they support Feisty.  That webpage hasn't been updated for feisty yet
[11:27] <kingcobra> Flannel, do u mean in terminal and also as an argument shud it hav a dash before it
[11:27] <rickyfingers> grasfrog: tried k3b?
[11:27] <runge> hi. is there a way to make the notification area show up in more then one panel?
[11:27] <Flannel> kingcobra: "btdownloadcurses [torrentfile] 
[11:27] <runge> I use gnome
[11:27] <Flannel> kingcobra: eh, without the quote
[11:27] <thcmonkey> Flannel: cheers
[11:28] <tovella> ab12: looking at your paste, tells me something weird is happening - tries to install apache2-utils with apache(1)-common.  i don't think that's normal.
[11:28] <kingcobra> Flannel, thanx
[11:28] <ab12> tovella: I know I just wanna to install apache: sudo apt-get install apacje
[11:28] <ab12> apache*
[11:29] <Flannel> ab12: then just install `apache`
[11:29] <ab12> I decided since there is apache2
[11:29] <ab12> that  I will remove apache sudo apt-get remove --purge apache and than install apache2 sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:29] <ab12> so now I have apache2
[11:30] <tovella> ab12: make sure to purge apache-common, as well.
[11:31] <nugenoa> How do I actully start samba or is it on always after I install it?
[11:32] <Helmi> anyone around with eclipse experience? i got a really weird problem
[11:32] <fotoflo_> whats the diff between an A record and a CNAME?
[11:33] <OrTigaS> i installed mediaplayer connectivity.... how can i uninstall it?
[11:33] <ab12> tovella: how can I reinstall apache2
[11:33] <ab12> tovella: couse I forgot to purge apache-common :s
[11:34] <gabriel82> does anyone know how to put a second monitor in portrait mode with an ATI card
[11:34] <tovella> ab12: not sure you'd have to re-install one, after purging the other.
[11:35] <Habbie> hello; on ubuntu 6.10, how do i edit the motd without rebooting -and- without having to edit both /etc/motd.tail and /var/run/motd ?
[11:36] <tovella> ab12: apache should use apache-common, while apache2 should use apache2-common
[11:37] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone knows a good tutorial about how to Install w32codec ubuntu 6.10 - AMD64?
[11:37] <IndyGunFreak> LaNCeloT_RW: good luck
[11:37] <LaNCeloT_RW> IndyGunFreak, LOL
[11:37] <locke> how do i get synaptic to allow installation of unauthenticated software?
[11:38] <nugenoa> System > Admin > Synaptics Package Manager ?
[11:38] <SuperID> I have a fresh server install and I'm trying to configure raid.  I had no /dev/md* devices so I ran MAKEDEV md and it made them in /dev/.static/dev/md*.   did I run MAKEDEV incorrecty?   I expected them to show up right in /dev
[11:39] <locke> im in that and it says "6 packages will be help back and not upgraded" =\
[11:39] <Habbie> locke, are you sure lack of authentication is the reason for holding those back?
[11:39] <locke> the 6 packages are listed under "not authenticated"
[11:40] <Habbie> ok
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> so just hit ok.
[11:41] <tovella> need sleep... good night, all.
[11:42] <nugenoa> Night.
[11:42] <imanabidi> hello guys,I am new both to ubuntu and IRC, can anyboy help me with "bootloader administraition tool"
[11:42] <locke> damn errors installing ntfs-3g ;[
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> bootloader administration tool?
[11:42] <nugenoa> imanabidi, What is that?
[11:42] <imanabidi> i can't find system tool->boot
[11:43] <nugenoa> grub, lilo, or windows?
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> imanabidi: what exactly are you trying to dol.
[11:43] <imanabidi> yes i want to edit my boot
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> imanabidi: why?
[11:43] <AlleAuei> buongiorno a tutti
[11:43] <AlleAuei> qualcuno potrebbe darmi una mano con ubuntu?
[11:43] <nugenoa> imanabidi, Ok, are you dual booting or what?
[11:43] <imanabidi> where that list the options for loging in
[11:43] <imanabidi> beside windows and other os
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> imanabidi: ok, how do you want to edit it, add something, take something away, etc.
[11:44] <imanabidi> i want to set default to windows
[11:44] <nugenoa> imanabidi, are you using grub?
[11:44] <imanabidi> ??
[11:44] <imanabidi> what is grub
[11:44] <nugenoa> I'm guessing you did. Read this.
[11:44] <thoreauputic> !it
[11:45] <nugenoa> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-windows-as-default-os-when-dual-booting-ubuntu/
[11:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:45] <nugenoa> imanabidi, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-windows-as-default-os-when-dual-booting-ubuntu/
[11:45] <imanabidi> thanks man
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> imanabidi: type this command in a terminal.   sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and see if it opens up your os listing
[11:45] <nugenoa> I hope he reads that.
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> nugenoa: i doubt he wil...lol
[11:46] <nugenoa> Else he'll set "Other Operation Systems" as his default ;x
[11:46] <locke> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:46] <locke> =x
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> what he's probably dealing with.... is Ubuntu is set to default, and when grub installs, it only gives you like 3sec to hit a key, before going to the default(generally Ubuntu)...,
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> one of the things that annoys me about new installs.
[11:47] <nugenoa> IndyGunFreak, Yea. I made windows my default boot loader.
[11:47] <locke> ubuntu dapper gives 7 secs i think :P
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> nugenoa: well, i don't have windows anymore..lol, i just remember that beign an issue.
[11:47] <nugenoa> I like grub and lilo, but I can restore window's bl more quickly then I can grub.
[11:47] <Habbie> anyone know what ubuntu release was the first one to move motd to /var/run/motd ?
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> don't think i'e ever used Windows bootloader.
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> or edited it,e tc.
[11:48] <Habbie> the windows bootmanager is actually pretty nice
[11:48] <nugenoa> I like it. Compared to the grubbster.
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> well, i dont have windows anymore either, so that could also being an issue...lol
[11:48] <grasfrog> does anybody know an application which can burn a mpeg2 video direct to dvd - without a menue or something like that? just the video?
[11:48] <nugenoa> Tru.
[11:49] <Fracture> how can I downgrade (remove extra packages) to change a ubuntu-desktop to a ubuntu-minimal ?
[11:49] <Fracture> I tried removing ubuntu-desktop, but everything that it depends on is still there
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> Fracture: just go to synaptic and remove the packages you don't want
[11:50] <Fracture> IndyGunFreak: that's a lot of work.. since there would be hundreds of them
[11:51] <LaNCeloT_RW> !w32codecs
[11:51] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:51] <IndyGunFreak> Fracture: well, nothing worth doing is easy
[11:51] <Fracture> IndyGunFreak: well.. I thought that there may be a way, based on the dependency information in the packages
[11:52] <IndyGunFreak> Fracture: i'm not saying there isn't... i'm not sure to be truthful.. never really saw that question here.
[11:52] <Habbie> Fracture, something like deborphan may be of help
[11:52] <Fracture> Habbie: thanks.. i'll check it out
[11:55] <locke> is there any way to allow remote connection from a computer whose ip you don't know before hand?
[11:55] <Fracture> incase anyone else is interested, I found this : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:55] <locke> *and can't install software onto the computer remoting either
[11:57] <thoreauputic> locke: you might have a look at port knocking ( see apt-cache show knockd )
[11:58] <thoreauputic> locke: enables access to for example ssh, by using a sequence of "port knocks" and iptables
[12:00] <anke> I have the mistake /dev/video0 [v4l2] : no overlay support
[12:00] <anke> ! (tv card)  Why?
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv card)  why? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <anke> ubotu: thanks
[12:01] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:01] <locke>   /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "fuse"    dpkg: error processing fuse-utils (--configure):
[12:01] <locke> =\
[12:01] <locke> how do i fix that?  =\
[12:02] <kontingenz> How can I get VLC playing ASF-Videofiles? Do I have to install win32 video codecs?
[12:04] <nospi> hey guys im having trouble again
[12:04] <nospi> i can't open the Login Window preferences
[12:04] <nospi> the first time i try it asks for a password, but doens't open
[12:04] <nospi> then after that, nothing happens when itry to open it
[12:05] <nospi> anyone got any ideas?
[12:06] <nospi> :(
[12:07] <ardeni> udao sie komu zainstalowa i uruchomi wine pod systemem 64bitowym?
[12:07] <kontingenz> I think you have to speak in english ;-)
[12:07] <Heroin> Can anyone help me setup a postfix mail server?
[12:08] <nospi> brb
[12:08] <cvk77> well.. he doesn't have to, but it would help ;)
[12:08] <cvk77> !pl
[12:08] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:09] <mattyv> Anybody know if it's possible to remove something (file/folder) from your Tracker database once it's already been "tracked"? I've blacklisted it in the config file but it was already tracked earlier
[12:10] <progek> I created a video in .ogg format and would like to embed it into a webpage. I'm running my own webserver and need an encoder to convert .ogg to .flv   any ideas?
[12:10] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi dudes.. im looking for w32Codecs that work on Ubuntu 6.10 AMD64.... but i could find a way to set it... anyone could help me?
[12:10] <LaNCeloT_RW> couldnt*
[12:10] <Heroin> !nl
[12:10] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:11] <cvk77> LaNCeloT_RW: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+flv+encoder
[12:11] <valdi> is there anyone here runing ubuntu on a Fujitzu Siemens notebook? i cant get the volume button to work
[12:11] <cvk77> err, sorry lancelot, wrong person ;)
[12:11] <cvk77> progek: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+flv+encoder
[12:12] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, np
[12:12] <cvk77> LaNCeloT_RW: the w32codecs package should be in universe or multiverse
[12:12] <graabein> hi! i'm having trouble with auto-mount. when i insert cd's and usb stuff (like digital camera) they don't show up like they used to. how do i fix this?
[12:12] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, by the way, could you help me?
[12:12] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, I use AMD64
[12:13] <valdi> anyone?
[12:13] <valdi> anyone have a volume (wheel)button working on their laptop?
[12:14] <cvk77> LaNCeloT_RW: you can download the codec package from mplayer's website (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/)
[12:14] <cvk77> LaNCeloT_RW: there's also an amd64 package available
[12:14] <progek> thanks cvk77 but I cant seem to find what im looking for. I have googled but mostly found converting from .flv to divx or using windows programs for converting. I tried using ffmpeg but that did not seem to work although it created an output.flv. Is there any other way to encode in linux without using ffmpeg?
[12:14] <daryl_> Hello! How is everybody tonight?
[12:14] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, already did that, and copied it to /usr/lib/win32
[12:15] <graabein> fine daryl :) but here in norway it's noon!
[12:15] <daryl_> everytime i hit shift+backspace, my screen turns black.  Does anybody know how to fix this?
[12:15] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, but there're some wmv files that dont work
[12:16] <predaeus> progek, another encoder is mencoder. no idea if it is able to encode .flv though.
[12:16] <progek> thanks oredaeus
[12:16] <progek> p^
[12:16] <Drumer> hmm
[12:16] <Drumer> je tu nejakej cech?
[12:16] <cvk77> LaNCeloT_RW: the wmv codec only supports up to wmv 9, maybe it's wmv 10?
[12:17] <cvk77> !cz | Drumer
[12:17] <PirateHead> The extra buttons on my Satellite A105-S2001 don't work, nor do any of the function keys. Is there a way I can bind those keys to do things?
[12:17] <ubotu> Drumer: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[12:17] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, i dont know the version of file... maybe should be it... im looking for another file to test
[12:17] <locke> system << preferences << keyboard shortcuts?
[12:18] <mattyv> graabein: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:18] <PirateHead> locke: if your comment is directed at me, please put my name at the start; beyond that, the keys are not recognized for keypresses, so I cannot use that menu to bind them.
[12:18] <rotarised> Does anyone know how to enable auto-select URL in the Opera address bar? That is, the URL is automatically selected when you click on it.
[12:19] <locke> hm, my satellite notebook function keys work
[12:19] <PirateHead> locke: Did you have to do any special configuration, or did they work automagically?
[12:19] <locke> automagically
[12:19] <PirateHead> Shame. None of mine do anything, or are recognized.
[12:19] <locke> though my volume doesn't control what i want it to
[12:20] <valdi> all buttons work on mine except for the volume
[12:20] <PirateHead> My volume control wheel does work, incidentally.
[12:20] <locke> it controls pc volume which doesn't actually change the volume...
[12:20] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, just tested another file and now its working .. maybe the other one is wmv > 9
[12:20] <locke> not sure how to make the wheel change PCM volume rather than PC volume
[12:20] <PirateHead> Does anybody know if there's a configuration program that attepts to get extra keys working, but which perhaps failed during my install?
[12:20] <valdi> pc volume?
[12:20] <cvk77> LaNCeloT_RW: wmv can be a real pain in the a** :)
[12:21] <locke> pc speaker*
[12:21] <daryl_> everytime i hit shift+backspace, my screen turns black.  Does anybody know how to fix this?
[12:21] <valdi> ok
[12:21] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, LOL.. thanks God I dont have videos in wmv
[12:21] <PirateHead> daryl_: Why are you hitting shift+backspace? =P
[12:21] <mattyv> PirateHead: I think it's up to a bit of luck, some laptops are supported for whatever reason, maybe cooperative manufacturers, others don't. Mine don't
[12:21] <LaNCeloT_RW> now, i want to know a good video capture program to record my beryl working :-)
[12:21] <LaNCeloT_RW> any idea?
[12:21] <Wooksta> im trying to install yank (yet another note keeper) from synaptic package manager but i get the following error which i try and select the package (" Depends: libpisock8  but it is not installable"), is there a repo i need to enable to get this package from?
[12:22] <mattyv> You're probably most likely to have lukc with IBM, Lenovo, HP...others are more hit and miss
[12:22] <PirateHead> mattyv: It probably isn't a matter of a cooperative manufacturer, because other people report getting various Toshiba Satellites working just fine,
[12:22] <cvk77> LaNCeloT_RW: take a look at xvidcap
[12:22] <mattyv> *special keys that is
[12:22] <LaNCeloT_RW> !xvidcap
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <locke> i have a toshiba satellite u205-s5044 and the keys work =x
[12:23] <PirateHead> !info xvidcap
[12:23] <ubotu> Package xvidcap does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:23] <PirateHead> Evidently that's not the name of an Ubuntu package. =D
[12:23] <mattyv> In that case, not manufacturuer, but it's still a matter of luck and I don't know why some work
[12:24] <cvk77> afair it's in debian testing
[12:24] <daryl_> Happened again.
[12:24] <Niek> Hi
[12:24] <daryl_> PirateHead, whenI am typing something IN CAPS and make a mistake
[12:24] <locke> How can I change the volume shortcut to change PCM volume rather than PC speak volume? I don't see it in the keyboard shortcuts menu.
[12:24] <PirateHead> daryl_: What are you talking about?
[12:25] <locke> shift+backspace
[12:25] <Niek> Question: Is it very easy to setup a Dual-Display configuration in Ubuntu? I know Linux supports it very well. But.. ?
[12:25] <locke> lol
[12:25] <daryl_> If i press shift+backspace my screen turns black
[12:25] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, only i386 packages for xvidcap =/
[12:25] <PirateHead> daryl_: Oh, I see. In response to my question awhile ago.
[12:25] <srecko> hello people
[12:25] <LaNCeloT_RW> srecko, morning!
[12:25] <daryl_> PirateHead, yeah, it happened again and i had to restart
[12:25] <PirateHead> Helo srecko.
[12:25] <Niek> Question: Is it very easy to setup a Dual-Display configuration in Ubuntu? I know Linux supports it very well. But.. ?
[12:26] <srecko> I've got problems with my vmware tools installation - [/etc/init.d] 
[12:26] <afflux> is there any way to set a label for a ntfs-filesystem?
[12:26] <PirateHead> daryl_: That sucks. I have no clue how to disable it, though. I tried it on my machine and it has no response.
[12:26] <srecko> cant copy a file there, please help me, if you understand me?
[12:26] <hayden> do cds get automatically mounted when using ubuntu server (no gui)
[12:26] <sipols> guys, how can i format other parts of hdd, when i am using ubuntu?
[12:26] <locke> PirateHead: My Fn keys don't register in keyboard shortcuts either.
[12:26] <PirateHead> afflux: what do you mean by a label?
[12:26] <Niek> Question: Is it very easy to setup a Dual-Display configuration in Ubuntu? I know Linux supports it very well. But.. ?
[12:26] <afflux> PirateHead: you can label your ext2/3 partitions for accessing them via LABEL=<label> in /etc/fstab for example
[12:27] <srecko> anyone? :P
[12:27] <PirateHead> locke: I think there is probably a program that lets you fiddle with that interface, but I don't know what it is. That's why I'm asking in channel - but it appears that people here don't know either. I'll be making a post on the forums at some point.
[12:27] <Niek> Question: Is it very easy to setup a Dual-Display configuration in Ubuntu? I know Linux supports it very well. But.. ?
[12:27] <Niek> Question: Is it very easy to setup a Dual-Display configuration in Ubuntu? I know Linux supports it very well. But.. ?
[12:27] <Niek> Question: Is it very easy to setup a Dual-Display configuration in Ubuntu? I know Linux supports it very well. But.. ?
[12:27] <Habbie> Niek, once is really enough
[12:27] <afflux> PirateHead: in case you have e.g. a removable device that isn't always mapped at the same device
[12:27] <PirateHead> afflux: that's cool. I always just use the device name.
[12:27] <Niek> But nobody responds! :(
[12:27] <xfab> hi there
[12:27] <monsoon_king> hi all
[12:27] <tomaszx> hi
[12:27] <monsoon_king> how do i change the permission for a folder
[12:27] <afflux> PirateHead: sudo tune2fs -L <label> <device> sets the label
[12:28] <ab12> I tryed to make index.php in my /var/www but there is somekind of error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10877/
[12:28] <ab12> can someone tell me what's missing in my settings
[12:28] <xfab> I'm compiling a new kernel and my mouse and keyboard are connected via USB; can I unselect 8250 support for serial mice and keyboards?
[12:28] <cvk77> !info istanbul
[12:28] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[12:29] <PirateHead> afflux: are you using ntfs-3g for read and write access?
[12:29] <afflux> PirateHead: yes
[12:29] <Niek> Question: Is it very easy to setup a Dual-Display configuration in Ubuntu? I know Linux supports it very well. But.. ?
[12:29] <cvk77> LaNCeloT_RW: istanbul should do about the same and is in universe
[12:29] <locke> PirateHead: when I tried installing ntfs-3g i got errors =x
[12:29] <xfab> Niek: it depends
[12:29] <tombow> xfab: obviously
[12:29] <PirateHead> afflux: I would look at the ntfsprogs documentation for info on how to set a label.
[12:29] <Niek> xfab: how do you mean?
[12:29] <xfab> Niek: I think with an ATI or nVidia-card it should be very easy
[12:30] <xfab> tombow: thank you! :-)
[12:30] <LaNCeloT_RW> cvk77, i 'll try it
[12:30] <monsoon_king> how do i change the permission for a folder?
[12:30] <locke> chmod
[12:30] <xfab> Niek: with an ATI-card you can set up the whole thing over the fglrx-panel
[12:30] <billy> monsoon_king:  open nautilus with gksudo nautilus.
[12:31] <PirateHead> monsoon_king: do not do what billy suggested.
[12:31] <Niek> I have a onboard video card, and I want to buy another (cheap) one, and place it into my computer. Then connect another (second) monitor on my second video card, and than i want to configure a dual display setup :) Would it work xfab?
[12:31] <xfab> Niek: and for nVidia there is a tool too, but I don't remeber the name at the moment
[12:31] <billy> PirateHead:  it works just fine.
[12:31] <monsoon_king> :(
[12:31] <PirateHead> monsoon_king: Use chmod or chown. Do you know how to use those commands?
[12:31] <PirateHead> !worksforme | billy
[12:31] <ubotu> billy: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:31] <locke> chmod --help :)
[12:31] <monsoon_king> PirateHead: nope
[12:31] <xfab> Niek: you want to use both cards at the same moment?
[12:31] <Niek> yup
[12:31] <locke> monsoon_king: open a terminal and type chmod --help
[12:32] <xfab> Niek: as far as I know, thats not possible
[12:32] <PirateHead> monsoon_king: chmod changes the permissions for a folder, and chown changes who owns it. What folder are you wanting to change?
[12:32] <Niek> Hmm, my dad says it is :P
[12:32] <xfab> Niek: but just buy a card with two outputs
[12:32] <locke> Can someone help me install ntfs-3g =x
[12:32] <Niek> Is that expensive?
[12:32] <monsoon_king> its a folder on a ntfs partition
[12:33] <Niek> okay, this really doesn;t work. Hmm, name before i say somehting :P
[12:33] <Niek> xfab: is that expensive?
[12:33] <xfab> Niek: hmm, I don't know exactely if there are cards with two analogports
[12:33] <PirateHead> monsoon_king: yike, I don't know how that works. ntfs doens't support full unix file permissions, etc.
[12:33] <xfab> Niek: but there are cards that have got two DVI-Ports
[12:33] <Niek> xfab: It doesn;t matter what kind of output it is. There are some plugs that convert DVI to VGA
[12:33] <monsoon_king> PirateHead: ok anyway i will give it a try
[12:34] <locke> PirateHead: Can you help me install ntfs-3g?
[12:34] <PirateHead> monsoon_king: Good luck.
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> Niek: what are you looking for again?
[12:34] <xfab> Niek: so you would also have to buy a little converter (~10 Dollars) if you want to connect it to a non DVI-monitor
[12:34] <monsoon_king> PirateHead: :)
[12:34] <xfab> Niek: hehe
[12:34] <locke> I tried earlier and it felt like screwing me over
[12:34] <PirateHead> locke: Don't ask the same questions over and over. My best guess is "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g", but that's a completely uneducated guess.
[12:34] <Niek> Hmm.. xfab, Where can i buy, and how much does it costs, a Dual Display Video card?
[12:34] <billy> !ntfs-3g
[12:34] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:35] <PirateHead> good call, billy.
[12:35] <xfab> Niek: you want to game with your new card (almost not possible under linux ^^) or is it just for office / multimedia use?
[12:35] <PirateHead> Wanna try following one that howto, locke?
[12:35] <eilker> konversation -caption "%c" %i %m   // what does these mean -caption "%c" %i %m ?
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> Niek: were you looking into dual monitors?
[12:36] <PirateHead> eilker: type "man konversaton" for detailed info on what things like -caption mean.
[12:36] <locke> i tried earlier but something errored i think
[12:36] <Niek> office, programming etc. xfab
[12:36] <billy> locke, what sort of error returned?
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> Niek: try this card for dual monitor setup..., it works awesome...   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133010
[12:37] <Niek> for programming use. On one display a Terminal, on the other Firefox. :) xfab
[12:37] <xfab> Niek: I think most new models got 2 DVI or an analog and a dvi port
[12:37] <locke> billy: i think it was an error with fuse
[12:37] <xfab> Niek: I both a ATI x1600 last summer and it got two ports
[12:37] <billy> locke:  did you try copy/pasting the error into ubuntuforums search?
[12:37] <PirateHead> locke: make sure you have a very recent version of FUSE if you are trying to run ntfs-3g
[12:38] <jrib> eilker: maybe as in http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html ?
[12:38] <locke> I tried installing fuse, but that errors too =x
[12:38] <xfab> Niek: but I can't name a model, because the choice is enormous
[12:38] <eilker> jrib: thanx
[12:38] <Niek> xfab: Thnq for the help. I will look further. Now I've to go... :(
[12:38] <xfab> Niek: but for 150$, you should be able to get a good card with two ports
[12:38] <Niek> Bye, and thnx!
[12:39] <xfab> Niek: ok, cu
[12:39] <xfab> Niek: np
[12:40] <locke>  /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "fuse"
[12:41] <locke> fuse-utils is already the newest version.  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.  1 not fully installed or removed.
[12:41] <zues_62> does anyone know bout KTorrent here
[12:41] <zues_62> what does Stalled mean?
[12:42] <xfab> cu guys
[12:42] <billy> locke:  wonder what's up with the "1 not fully installed" message.
[12:42] <zues_62> does anyone know
[12:42] <zues_62> what does stalled mean in KTORRENT
[12:42] <billy> not me zeus_62
[12:42] <locke> I wonder too, but don't know how to check. =x
[12:43] <PirateHead> !patience | zues_62
[12:43] <ubotu> zues_62: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:43] <cvk77> zues_62: the question is, what "stalled" means for bittorrent - it's not ktorrent-specific, i think
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> zues_62: means the download has stalled.
[12:43] <zues_62> oh ok
[12:43] <zues_62> ty
[12:43] <billy> locke:  that may be one of the sources of your error messages.
[12:43] <zues_62> im just real new to linux aye
[12:43] <zues_62> been ussing it for about 2 days
[12:44] <zues_62> but its nice
[12:44] <locke> How can I find out which one it is?
[12:44] <PirateHead> zues_62: That's alright, you'll catch up. I'm glad your impression so far has been good.
[12:44] <billy> zeus_62:  it's cool. we understand. just try to work with us, k?
[12:44] <cvk77> IndyGunFreak: if i knew that he would be happy with THAT answer, i would have written it myself :-)
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:44] <zues_62> ok all g
[12:44] <zues_62> windows is so blah lol
[12:44] <locke> Hm, I'll try reinstalling fuse-utils
[12:45] <PirateHead> The last version of windows that I liked was 3.1 -- and that was because I was like "ooh, shiny!" after having used DOS for years.
[12:45] <zues_62> LOL Same
[12:45] <ahaslam> hey, anything going on?
[12:45] <zues_62> once they brought out 95 it went so down hill
[12:45] <billy> I liked Win98 OK.  XP was tooo newbie-user friendly
[12:46] <zues_62> lol
[12:46] <innu> Hey. Suggest graphical ftp clients except gFTP beacuse it crashes somewhy...
[12:46] <ahaslam> I find xp hard ;)
[12:46] <PirateHead> I liked XP better than 98 -- it made lots of common tasks take fewer mouse clicks, which is a big thing for me.
[12:46] <zues_62> welly i didnt like 98 was kernal 32 error once that died ur system had to be rebooted
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> xp is easy, its dealing with the complete nonsense that comes with XP that sucks..
[12:46] <zues_62> lol
[12:46] <locke> E: fuse-utils: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> XP was the best M$ has done since 95
[12:46] <locke> D:
[12:46] <billy> maybe it was 95 I'm thinking of.  it's all a blur.
[12:46] <zues_62> agread
[12:46] <zues_62> LOL
[12:47] <valdi> i want my volume button!
[12:47] <locke> last week is a blur to me =\
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> valdi: add it
[12:47] <zues_62> so with ubuntu whn u update the version do u download a new iso or?
[12:47] <PirateHead> valdi: add it.
[12:47] <billy> valdi:  is there no volume button in your panel?
[12:47] <valdi> add it how?
[12:47] <zues_62> ur volume buttom can be found
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> zues_62: thats what i do, then do a clean install.
[12:47] <jburns131_> hello folks
[12:47] <locke> valdi try system << preferences << keyboard shortcuts
[12:47] <PirateHead> Hello jburns131_
[12:47] <billy> valdi:  right click the panel, and select add to panel.
[12:47] <zues_62> if ur using gnome just add a buttom to task bar
[12:47] <locke> ah, or that >.>
[12:47] <zues_62> oh ok
[12:48] <zues_62> will the xconfig die
[12:48] <billy> valdi:  volume control is in the third group, the very last one.
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> zues_62: the way i do it, yes, its a clean install(i prefer it that way), but there is a terminal command that will upgrade you and keep everything you have(atleast it should)
[12:48] <innu> Hey. Suggest graphical ftp clients except gFTP beacuse it crashes somewhy...
[12:48] <valdi> im not talking about panel... the wheel on my laptop
[12:48] <rickyfingers> on upgrading ubuntu: I have two hd's and I always have currnet version and previous version installed that way if anything goes wrong, I'm not totally ****ed
[12:48] <billy> valdi:  you can move it around by right clicking and and selecting "move".
[12:48] <jburns131_> Im having keyboard issues, my single quotes are turning into back ticks, and thats after hitting it twice
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> rickyfingers: damn, now thats cautious...lol
[12:49] <billy> valdi:  I'm sorry.  I misunderstood.  I don't think this forum can help you with hardware issues such as that.
[12:49] <zues_62> cool coz it took me abswolutly ages to get it going
[12:49] <zues_62> coz of my laptop hardware is strange lol
[12:49] <rickyfingers> anyone here installed edgy on an inspiron 8100?
[12:49] <zues_62> no wsorri
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> zues_62: good thing is, at least my experience, once i got it working under Dapper.. i made a folder of word files, indicating how i fixed certain problems(for instance, configuring my TV card, dual monitor, etc.)
[12:50] <jburns131_> it seems to be using the single quote as a modifier, because Im getting foriegn characters
[12:50] <billy> rickyfingers:  once feisty comes out, that's how I'll try it out as well.  Worked too hard getting Edgy just right to totally bomb it.
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> i then put that file with my backups.
[12:50] <jburns131_> yet I have my keyboard is set to us english
[12:50] <MrFeetio> how can i create user accounts without a password?
[12:50] <zues_62> kool very kool
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> it has yet to burn me
[12:51] <gerhard> hi
[12:51] <gerhard> I'm using xine and xmms
[12:51] <zues_62> but i will admit once u have ubuntu all configured correctly itws real real nice
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> i can have edgy up and running a 100% in about 40min
[12:51] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell
[12:51] <thoreauputic> MrFeetio: umm - what on earth for? Why would you do that to yourself?
[12:51] <gerhard> when i quit xine, the master volume is somehow set very low
[12:51] <zues_62> anywayz guys i am outies
[12:51] <pacho2> Can I ask for a Ubuntu Feisty question?
[12:51] <zues_62> take care all
[12:51] <gerhard> only when i run it again, the volume can be set higher via xine
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> gerhard: open a terminal, and type "alsamixer" no quotes
[12:52] <billy> IndyGunFreak:  you should be called IndyMachineGun
[12:52] <gerhard> ok
[12:52] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: according to that page, ubuntu installs well on the Inspirion 8100. You can view more information on that samge page.
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> billy  why's that?..lol
[12:52] <billy> IndyGunFreak: cuz, 40 mins?  That's quick.
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok..lol, had me confused.
[12:52] <locke> Anyone know how I can set keyboard shortcut to change PCM volume rather than Headphone or PC speaker volume?
[12:53] <billy> IndyGunFreak: it's ok.  my messages typically have that effect.
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> bout 20min for the install, then just sit and install programs for about 15-20min.. doesn't take me to long.
[12:53] <rickyfingers> PirateHead: install was not a problem, I walked my brother through the install over the phone last weekend, but when it came up, he didn't have use of the 'w' 's' or 'x' keys on the keyboard.
[12:53] <MrFeetio> thoreauputic: my account is password protected, my root/admin account are password protected, but my mom dosent seem to understand(plus is 7.04 it needs to be 6 char long)
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:53] <gerhard> thanks
[12:53] <pacho2> In http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-panel/gnome-panel_2.18.0-0ubuntu2.diff.gz I read: "debian/patches/09_help_submenu.patch:drop, the menu is replaced by a new item"
[12:53] <gerhard> and how can i shuffle the xmms playlist?
[12:53] <pacho2> What menu item replaces the patch?
[12:53] <rickyfingers> PirateHead: I think the keyboards probably busted, but hoping not.
[12:53] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: that is very very strange, and I have not heard that from any other Inspirion users (in fact, I have never heard of that problem period)
[12:53] <xfab> would you guys suggest to compile the Open Sound System as a module or just leave it away?
[12:53] <locke> gerhard: press s :P
[12:54] <gerhard> k
[12:54] <locke> turns on shuffle
[12:54] <gerhard> thx
[12:54] <locke> np
[12:54] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: Do the buttons work under Windows?
[12:54] <thoreauputic> MrFeetio: you can configure gdm to allow direct login to the desktop - but what's the problem with your mom? Explain that not having a password is a security risk on the IntarWeb or something like that...
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> gerhard: did you figure it out?
[12:54] <thoreauputic> MrFeetio: takes about a second to type a password...
[12:54] <rickyfingers> Probably a busted keyboard.  My little bro's kind of clueless when it comes to computers.  I told him he should just plug another keyboard, that kind of blew his mind. Plus he wants to keep the thing mobile.
[12:55] <locke> lol
[12:55] <gerhard> yes
[12:55] <rickyfingers> PirateHead: I don't know if the keys worked under windows or not.  I had him blow windows away.
[12:55] <MrFeetio> thoreeauputic: well she isnt the only one my aunt doesn't like having an password, and my sisters dont really care but it should be there choice
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> xmms is awesome...
[12:55] <xfab> at the kernelcompilation: can I unselect the Open Sound System though it's deprecated?
[12:55] <rickyfingers> All he really needs is open office word processor so he can type a report.
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> skins can be hard to find at times thoug
[12:55] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: if it's a laptop and he wants to keep it working despite a busted keyboard, obviously no amount of software fixes will help. He will have to get the laptop serviced.
[12:55] <locke> what's a good keyboard shortcut for terminal? :P
[12:56] <billy> IndyGunFreak:  the "doublesize" option always freezes it for me.
[12:56] <rickyfingers> locke: I use f7
[12:56] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: If it's a desktop, it should be easy to walk him through plugging in a new keyboard. =D
[12:56] <rickyfingers> locke: you have to set it up though
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> billy  i think it does that for everyone to be truthful
[12:56] <locke> sounds good to me :)
[12:56] <thoreauputic> MrFeetio: well it's tike they learnt a bit about internet security and such - you may quote me 9this isn't windows, thank goodness)
[12:56] <rickyfingers> PirateHead: it's a laptop.
[12:56] <billy> IndyGunFreak: suffering together is much more fun.  :)
[12:56] <thoreauputic> s/tike/time
[12:56] <innu> Hey. Suggest graphical ftp clients except gFTP beacuse it crashes somewhy...
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> i don't like the double size anyways.
[12:56] <omha> PirateHead, it's also easy to plugin a keyboard on a laptop
[12:56] <MrFeetio> thoreeauputic: i understand the risks, can you tell me is it is possible?
[12:56] <rickyfingers> MrFeetio: I don't know if I'm repeating someone else, but you can just delete the x after the user name in /etc/passwd
[12:57] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: Tell him to decide how much the x s and w keys mean to him, and if he isn't willing to switch to a langauge that doesn't use them, he ought to take his laptop to a computer shop and get it fixed.
[12:57] <rickyfingers> but I don't reccomend it.
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[12:57] <catxk> I just installed ubuntu and got about 2 minutes experience, and I can't make this supposedly simple walkthrough work... where it says that I should simply write "make" to compile it into the driver, I get "No target specified and no makefile found. stop." could I get some help please? this is what I try to do: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[12:57] <PirateHead> omha: it makes the laptop less portable, however/
[12:57] <thoreauputic> MrFeetio: I won't encourage it, sorry
[12:57] <Flannel> !wifi | catxk
[12:57] <ubotu> catxk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:57] <billy> IndyGunFreak: when it froze, i killed it with System Monitor, which brought up a bug that got filed under libsexy.  The guys at the bug center seemed to know what was up though.
[12:57] <xfab> at the kernelcompilation: can I unselect the Open Sound System though it's deprecated?
[12:58] <rickyfingers> PriateHead: the other thing was it didn't detect the wireless nic.  So I'll also have to walk him through installing ndiswrapper...
[12:58] <rickyfingers> unless, can that be done through synaptic?  That would be so much easier.
[12:58] <catxk> Flannel: I'll have a look, thanks
[12:59] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: that may be a difficult walkthrough. Perhaps it would be easier to have him set up a remote shell for you, so you can do the installation over the network?
[12:59] <rickyfingers> ah yes...you can...I can just tell him to use synaptic to install ndiswrapper.
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> billy  yeah, the xmms thing is prett well known
[12:59] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: installing ndiswrapper does not solve the problem. You have to actually *utilize* ndiswrapper
[01:00] <rickyfingers> PirateHead: that's true, but he's smart enough to be able to type commands that I tell him.
[01:01] <locke> How come the media player keyboard shortcuts don't affect xmms?
[01:01] <rickyfingers> PirateHead: the thing about setting up ssh server is that's almost just as much of a pain because I'd have to walk him through setting up a dmz host on the router
[01:01] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: suit yourself.
[01:02] <pacho2> In http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-panel/gnome-panel_2.18.0-0ubuntu2.diff.gz I read:
[01:02] <pacho2> "* debian/patches/09_help_submenu.patch: +    - drop, the menu is replaced by a new item""
[01:02] <rickyfingers> I see there's even a gui tool for ndiswrapper - ndiswrapper gtk
[01:02] <pacho2> Where can I find this new item?
[01:02] <pacho2> Thanks a lot
[01:02] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: if it's a high-quality app, go for it. I have never used ndiswrapper-gtk.
[01:02] <bXi> rickyfingers: why would he need a dmz host on his router?
[01:02] <bXi> forwarding port 22 will do
[01:03] <rickyfingers> bXi: then that's what I should do.
[01:03] <PirateHead> rickyfingers: or just do it insecurely via telnet on port 80!!!
[01:03] <locke> anybody have any ideas about my question? =x
[01:04] <bXi> locke: probably because xmms doesnt know about them
[01:04] <rickyfingers> or maybe have him run ssh on a non-standard port.
[01:04] <ikonia> locke: whats the problem
[01:04] <locke> to change which volume setting the volume shortcut changes
[01:04] <bXi> rickyfingers: that could work as well as long as that port is forwarded
[01:04] <rickyfingers> Anytime I run sshd on 22, after about a day, I start to get mad brute force break-in attempts.
[01:04] <locke> it changes pc speaker, i want it to change pcm
[01:04] <ikonia> locke: no idea
[01:04] <gerhard> lag 0,1 sec what does that mean?
[01:05] <ikonia> gerhard: 0.1 lag in the chat session
[01:05] <gerhard> whats a lag?
[01:05] <ikonia> delay
[01:05] <fortran01> Hi, any tips on how to integrate svn with kate? something like cervisia. Thanks.
[01:05] <billy> gerhard:  you mean the little message in the lower left hand corner?
[01:05] <gerhard> ah alright
[01:05] <gerhard> yeah
[01:05] <billy> i think that's how long your typed message displays, but I could be wrong.
[01:05] <billy> how long it takes to display, I should say.
[01:06] <gerhard> your right i think
[01:06] <billy> time for my morning crack treatment.
[01:06] <ab12> how can I fix this problem:
[01:06] <ab12> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:06] <ab12> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 19 12:40:19 2007
[01:06] <ab12> I can't use sudo! :S
[01:06] <kuun-lann> hello
[01:07] <ikonia> ad12 fixyour clock
[01:07] <gerhard> billy drugs harm you
[01:07] <sharperguy> Has anyone ever made a debian package for Armagetron Advanced?
[01:07] <ikonia> sharperguy: this is ubuntu - not debian support
[01:07] <kuun-lann> i have a problem with guild wazrs and wine .. I try the updatewine.sh that's in the forum but when i launch GW .. it makes that wined3d.dll is not found and then, cannot load d3d8.dll et d3d9...
[01:08] <kuun-lann> and my Gw is on a fat32 partition of data
[01:08] <thcmonkey> grr i can NOT get ubuntu to display in 1680x1050
[01:08] <rickyfingers> ab12: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505
[01:08] <sharperguy> ikonia, I know, but ubuntu is based on debian so it used .deb files to install stuff
[01:08] <kuun-lann> who can help me plz?
[01:08] <sharperguy> ikonia, and I _am_ running ubuntu
[01:08] <thcmonkey> 1280x1024 is the biggest. but i KNOW my monitor displays 1680x1050
[01:08] <ikonia> sharperguy: ah, a deb package - not a package for debian
[01:08] <sharperguy> ikonia, yea
[01:08] <ikonia> sharperguy: if its not in the repo, log a launchpad request to get a package made
[01:09] <billy> thcmonkey:  there's a package, something like 935resolution, or something, that'll help.
[01:09] <pacho2> Someone is running ubuntu feisty here?
[01:09] <ikonia> no
[01:09] <MrFeetio> pacho2: i am
[01:09] <ikonia> pacho2: ubuntu alpha support (festiy) is ubuntu+1
[01:09] <pacho2> ok
[01:09] <pacho2> MrFeetio: Can you please run:
[01:09] <cvk77> !info kmymoney
[01:09] <ubotu> Package kmymoney does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:09] <rickyfingers> kunn-lann: is the directory where all those dll's are in your path (wild guess)
[01:09] <thcmonkey> billy: on synaptic?
[01:09] <ikonia> pacho2: ubuntu fesity support is in #ubuntu+1
[01:10] <pacho2> ikonia: thanks
[01:10] <pacho2> I go to ubuntu+1 channel
[01:10] <locke> Hm, I changed something....now volume controls change Headphone not PC speaker 0o;
[01:10] <billy> thcmonkey: yeah.  it's called 915resolution.
[01:10] <thcmonkey> billy: sweet cheers
[01:10] <cvk77> !info moneyplex
[01:10] <billy> thcmonkey: but it's for Intel.
[01:10] <billy> oops.
[01:10] <ubotu> Package moneyplex does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:10] <thcmonkey> i'm intel
[01:10] <sharperguy> ikonia, What do I file it as?
[01:10] <kuun-lann> i have a problem with guild wazrs and wine .. I try the updatewine.sh that's in the forum but when i launch GW .. it makes that wined3d.dll is not found and then, cannot load d3d8.dll et d3d9...
[01:10] <kuun-lann> and my Gw is on a fat32 partition of data
[01:10] <kuun-lann> who can help me plz?
[01:11] <bXi> is there a way to see the temperature of harddisks in ubuntu?
[01:11] <ikonia> sharperguy: request, enchancent, your judgment is best
[01:11] <ikonia> kuun-lann: what do you want
[01:11] <jrib> billy: right click on the applet > preferences (not sure if this exists on edgy)
[01:11] <rickyfingers> kuun-lann first thing is check and make sure partition is mounted
[01:11] <thoreauputic> locke: xmms/beep/audacious and co have their own keycodes - see the man page
[01:11] <kuun-lann> ikonia, i try to run guild wars with wine
[01:11] <ikonia> kuun-lann: you'll get good wine support in #wine or #winehq
[01:11] <kuun-lann> ikonia, : ok thanks :)
[01:11] <locke> bXi:  Install the package hddtemp from the Universe repository by doing a: $sudo apt-get install hddtemp
[01:12] <billy> jrib: i think you sent me a message on accident.
[01:12] <jrib> locke: right click on the applet > preferences (not sure if this exists on edgy).  Thanks billy
[01:12] <locke> jrib: what applet?
[01:12] <thcmonkey> billy: i can't find it on feisty
[01:12] <thcmonkey> ah well
[01:12] <billy> jrib:  no prob man.  :)  just wanna make sure the right folks get the right messages.
[01:13] <ikonia> thcmonkey: fesity support is in #ubuntu+1
[01:13] <billy> thcmonkey:  #ubuntu+1
[01:13] <locke> I'm running dapper.
[01:13] <bXi> locke: thanks
[01:13] <jrib> locke: the  volume one, in the notification area.  It should look like a speaker
[01:13] <thcmonkey> yeah, they don't like me lol
[01:13] <billy> thcmonkey: try backports repository, perhaps.
[01:13] <thcmonkey> cheers though
[01:13] <locke> Oh, I did that, but I want my keyboard shortcut to change PCM, not just that menu
[01:13] <billy> thcmonkey: don't know about that though.
[01:13] <ikonia> thcmonkey: thats no reason - fesity support is #ubuntu+1 - address why they don't like you
[01:13] <thcmonkey> ikonia: i think it's just because i don't know a huge amount
[01:14] <jrib> locke: the keyboard shortcut, if you used the "keyboard shortcuts" program in your preferences menu, should respect the settings there
[01:14] <ikonia> thcmonkey: thats no reason to discuss fesity problems in here, fesity support is #ubuntu+1 - ask yourself why if you don't know much your running an alpha product
[01:14] <locke> jrib: that changes headphone volume for some reason
[01:14] <rickyfingers> thcmonkey: ever tried linux from scratch? Those guys don't like anybody - I dare you to ask a n00b question on that mailing list.
[01:14] <thcmonkey> lol i'm not discussing feisty problems in here, i merely mention them
[01:15] <ikonia> rickyfingers: thats nonsense
[01:15] <jrib> locke: when you right click, is there a "preferences" menu option?
[01:15] <locke> In keyboard shortcuts?
[01:15] <catxk> what does "-ng" in madwifi-ng mean?
[01:15] <jrib> locke: no, on the speaker icon in the corner
[01:15] <ikonia> rickyfingers: but the book does say its not for "new linux users" so of couse asking new to linux questions is not welcome
[01:15] <locke> Oh, yes.
[01:15] <thcmonkey> rickyfingers: i've tried asking Qs in linux.eu on quakenet
[01:15] <thcmonkey> yeah, they hate me!
[01:15] <jrib> locke: when you click there it should let you "select the device and track to control"
[01:16] <billy> thcmonkey: your resolution is pretty good.  sometimes we just have to deal.
[01:16] <locke> jrib: The one I want is chosen.
[01:16] <jrib> locke: ok
[01:16] <locke> But keyboard doesn't change it. :/
[01:17] <thcmonkey> billy: i know what you're saying... it's just when i know something is capable of doing something and i can't get it to do it
[01:17] <rickyfingers> ikonia: what I'm trying to do is give an example that there are some linux groups out there that, while they will help, it's not always given  in the most gracious manner
[01:17] <thcmonkey> it anoys me
[01:17] <Freierfall> hi.
[01:17] <thcmonkey> i spent a couple of hours getting beryl to work last night, just because i wanted to see it
[01:17] <ikonia> rickyfingers: thats a bad example, LFS will help in a gracious manner, but will be kurt to those who reguse to read the book they are asking for help on
[01:17] <thcmonkey> turns out i think it looks awful, but i knew it could be run on my system so i wanted it to
[01:17] <billy> thcmonkey: i know what you mean.  if it really bugs you, perhaps try enabling the backports repository in Feisty, if it even has one.  Don't know.
[01:18] <ikonia> thcmonkey: if you want to learn, learn from a stable build, not an alpha product
[01:18] <slayer|uni_> hi
[01:18] <billy> !hi | slayer|uni_
[01:18] <thcmonkey> ikonia: yeah man, i got ya... but i may just wait 'till the 19th
[01:18] <ubotu> slayer|uni_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:18] <thcmonkey> feisty works basically well enough for me at the mo.
[01:19] <ikonia> thcmonkey: then I suggest you don't discuss feisty in here until the 19th
[01:19] <slayer|uni_> have some trouble with my second monitor...don't want to work right....
[01:19] <thcmonkey> his*
[01:19] <thcmonkey> woops
[01:19] <billy> thcmonkey: please don't use vulgarity.
[01:19] <thcmonkey> billy: sorry dude
[01:20] <rickyfingers> slayer|uni: I've got a dual monitor setup...do you want me to pastebin my xorg.conf?
[01:20] <billy> thcmonkey: not me personally, but it's a room rule that we all have to respect.
[01:20] <thcmonkey> billy: i know
[01:20] <slayer|uni_> would be nice
[01:20] <slayer|uni_> @ rickyfingers
[01:20] <rickyfingers>  slayer|uni: will do, just give me a minute...
[01:21] <slayer|uni_> np dude
[01:21] <slayer|uni_> take yourtime
[01:21] <melon> any ideas where i can pick up the divx4 encoder? i've got just about every single thing installed - but when i try to encode.. it still says that divx4 encoder doesn't exist - i can't seem to find info elsewhere
[01:21] <jrib> locke: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79717 suggests not using gnome's shortcuts and using xbindkeys to create your own
[01:21] <locke> hm, k, thanks :)
[01:22] <ab12> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 19 12:40:19 2007  How can I fix this??  Ican't use sudo aaaaaaaa
[01:22] <ikonia> ab12: fix your clock
[01:22] <ab12> how
[01:22] <ab12> If I can't use sudo
[01:22] <ikonia> you should be able ot use sudo
[01:22] <ikonia> thats not date / timestamp dependant
[01:22] <locke> sudo should work, the error was the other command
[01:22] <ikonia> exactly
[01:23] <grimboy> I'm trying to see why ndiswrapper isn't working. In dmesg I get "loadndiswrapper failed (32512); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'". Which system log? Where?
[01:24] <ab12> if I go into systme settings -> date & time, and I wanna chacne clock I need to be admin! so I click admin mode but there is a message: su returned with an error :SSSS
[01:24] <ikonia> grimboy: syslog
[01:24] <grimboy> Thanks
[01:24] <void^> ab12: try 'sudo -K'
[01:25] <ab12> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 19 12:40:19 2007
[01:25] <ikonia> ab12: actually - check your bios clock, it may be that thats screwing the clock
[01:25] <rickyfingers> slayer|uni: I pastebinned /etc/xorg.conf, but it's taking forever to submit...
[01:26] <thcmonkey> anyone know a decent site with hi-def pics on it?
[01:26] <ikonia> rickyfingers: you do know that its pointless copying your config due to his drivers/monitors/options being different
[01:26] <ikonia> thcmonkey: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:26] <thcmonkey> ikonia: god man
[01:27] <rickyfingers> ikonia: yes I was going to mention that he would have to edit the file to match his system, but it's a good starting off point.
[01:27] <ikonia> rickyfingers: cool
[01:27] <ikonia> just checking
[01:27] <albert> !ati
[01:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:27] <locke> i get distracted to easily :(
[01:28] <locke> what's the keyboard shortcut to go to a different workspace without moving the current window?
[01:28] <albert> hi, i used to install the fglrx-driver fr my ati radeon, but the performance was really terrible
[01:28] <albert> isn't there a better driver available?
[01:28] <ikonia> locke: all the shortcut keys are in the intro docs
[01:28] <locke> nevermind :)
[01:29] <slayer|uni_> rickyfingers: can't you c&p it into a query?
[01:29] <rickyfingers> sheesh! is pastebin always so slow?
[01:29] <rickyfingers> slayer|uni: if you can tell me how to do it...
[01:30] <rickyfingers> slayer|uni: I'm not really hip to all this irc stuff....
[01:30] <omha> rickyfingers, pastebin.com is dead
[01:30] <omha> !pastebin
[01:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:31] <tsoler> !chmod
[01:31] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:31] <gerhard> try nopaste.biz
[01:31] <albert> !terminal
[01:31] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:32] <billy> !botsnack
[01:32] <rickyfingers> omha: thanks for the tip http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10882/
[01:32] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:32] <rickyfingers> slayer|uni: here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10882/
[01:33] <rickyfingers> slayer|uni: there's a few things you will have to do to get this working for your system...like you'll have to change xorg.conf to match your system
[01:33] <slayer|uni_> i show you my corg.conf maybe you see the problem
[01:34] <slayer|uni_> rickyfingers: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10884/
[01:34] <slayer|uni_> i have 2 tfts which are exactly the same
[01:34] <catxk> when trying to "make" the madwifi I get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10883/ I'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[01:35] <catxk> any help would be greatly appreciated
[01:35] <slayer|uni_> the horizontal/vertival sync are from the manufacturer data sheet
[01:35] <rickyfingers> slayer|uni: my little bro just called from the states got to talk to him
[01:35] <jrib> slayer|uni_: you need build-essential
[01:35] <locke> Is there a panel for showing ram usage like there is for cpu and processor?
[01:36] <jrib> wow, I can't send messages to the right people today
[01:36] <rickyfingers> wait everybody my brother's got a funny linux story
[01:36] <jrib> catxk: you need build-essential
[01:36] <rickyfingers> he took this broken computer to radio shack
[01:36] <jrib> rickyfingers: #ubuntu-offtopic is for linux stories :)
[01:36] <rickyfingers> to get the keyboard fixed...told the guy he was running ubunto
[01:36] <rickyfingers> ok ok ok
[01:36] <shadowhywind>  hi all, where are power options at.. like after 3 hours go on standy by or something?
[01:36] <catxk> jrib: ok, what's that? I'm just installed ubuntu and trying to get the wlan to work...
[01:37] <superbia> Hi, anyone have any good tips on how to change to system from utf-8 to 8859-1 simply? I checked forum and it's not really working for me...
[01:37] <locke>  shadowhywind: System << preferences << power management
[01:37] <jrib> catxk: build-essential is essential stuff needed to build programs.  Basically just gievs you a bunch of standard header files that you will need when you compile most things.  And also gives you some tools you will need
[01:37] <jrib> catxk: you can install it using synaptic or apt-get
[01:38] <void^> catxk: are you sure you need to compile madwifi yourself?
[01:39] <locke> Is there a panel for showing ram usage like there is for cpu and processor?
[01:39] <catxk> void: I'm not sure of anything, I'm following these guides to the letter...
[01:40] <n33o> hello all
[01:41] <PirateHead> I am having trouble installing fnfxd on Ubuntu. Does anybody have experience in that area?
[01:41] <void^> catxk: run 'modinfo ath_pci', does it give an error or a lot of text?
[01:41] <PirateHead> Hello n330
[01:41] <catxk> void: says no such file or dir
[01:42] <drcode> hi all
[01:42] <rpc> can someone tell me what kind of problem does this thing indicate? TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:31245 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:42] <n33o> Im trying to configure network to work on ubuntu.. i have an internet connection with wireless ISP coming down from the roof on 10/100 cable.. (which i am talking to you on now) When i plugin the cable to my XP laptop all is fine.. but when i plugin to ethernet port on Netwrkcard on pc its not giving me access to webpages etc.. even when i have put in all the settings .. IP gateway .. dns etc.?? can anyone help wiht this?
[01:42] <drcode> hi all
[01:42] <PirateHead> Hello drcode.
[01:42] <drcode> any one know a gui tool for checking files/folder size?
[01:43] <PirateHead> drcode: are you running Ubuntu?
[01:43] <rpc> drcode du in console will work best :)
[01:43] <catxk> void^: I think I might have uninstalled madwifi somewhere down the lane...
[01:43] <PirateHead> drcode: Nautilus ought to do that just ifne.
[01:43] <drcode> yep
[01:43] <rpc> du -shm /path
[01:43] <quaal> does ext3 use more space to make a partition than something like ntfs? i backedup an ntfs drive, converted it to ext3, now trying to move the backup back to the drive, and it wont fit ?
[01:43] <PirateHead> drcode: in Nautilus (the default file browser), right click the folder and hit Preferences. It will show you the size.
[01:43] <drcode> k
[01:43] <n33o> any ideas anyone?
[01:44] <drcode> I want it in one list
[01:44] <rpc> quaal you can use ntfs on linux with the newest driver available... no need to convert
[01:44] <matrix> where do i find the network manager to setup wpa connections?
[01:44] <quaal> rpc, its already converted.
[01:44] <void^> catxk: as far as i know, madwifi should work out of the box in dapper and edgy, at least if the restricted-modules package is installed.
[01:44] <quaal> rpc, it still wasnt very stable, from what i remember
[01:44] <n33o> Also.. i got a tv card recently.. how do i get viewing software going in linux?
[01:44] <PirateHead> drcode: what do you mean by want it in one list?
[01:45] <PirateHead> n33o: you might want to check out MythTV?
[01:45] <catxk> void^: well, it doesn't show up in the system>administration>networking, it did before when I just had installed ubuntu... but I followed this guide which might have been a bit outdated, and it said to remove it and then reinstall it, so I guess I removed it successfully but now I can't get it to install again. everything I've come across on wifi and fujitsu-siemens says "uninstall the restricted-modules!!"
[01:45] <drcode> I want to sort what is the biggest dir
[01:45] <n33o> yes.. but i first need to get linux on the net lol
[01:45] <n33o> ;-)
[01:45] <drcode> and so
[01:45] <drcode> I had long time some gui tool in ubuntu
[01:45] <void^> catxk: err.. that's probably very old information.
[01:46] <n33o> can anyone help me with my internet on ubuntu problem?
[01:46] <PirateHead> drcode: Applications -> Accessories -> Disk Usage Analyzer ought to do what you're aksing for, I think.
[01:46] <void^> catxk: unless, perhaps, you have a newer atheros chipset that requires a really up to date madwifi version to work
[01:46] <billy> n33o:  what sort of problem are you having?
[01:47] <robinlinth> How to uninstall the Xubuntu version of Xfce completely so i can install the new version with the installer
[01:47] <slayer|uni_> rickyfingers: say something when you're ready with phoning.. ;)
[01:47] <catxk> void^: doubt it, but still, I guess whatever I did I just uninstalled it - no reason for it not to reinstall anew, or am I seriously lacking in the logic here?
[01:48] <drcode> hmm
[01:48] <drcode> I am under xfce
[01:48] <drcode> I can install it?
[01:48] <void^> catxk: you are probably waging a war against your package management system. how did you uninstall it?
[01:48] <Gh0sty_> is there a specific channel for beta testers of feisty?
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> void^: lol, waged war?
[01:49] <void^> Gh0sty_: #ubuntu+1
[01:49] <Gh0sty_> ty
[01:49] <rpc> quaal update your knowledge on ntfs in linux... there is a new driver out (hungarian team) and it works perfect
[01:50] <robinlinth> How to uninstall the Xubuntu version of Xfce completely so i can install the new version with the installer
[01:50] <catxk> void^: basically what it says under "removing old modules" here http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[01:51] <billy> robinlinth:  you ~could~ sudo apt-get remove xunbuntu-desktop, but that may remove more than what you're wanting to remove.
[01:52] <matrix> matrix: test
[01:52] <Drel3> best programs for ip scanning network in range!!!anyone pls
[01:52] <robinlinth> billy, No, it removes only that package
[01:53] <catxk> void^: I got the build-essential and now it's working! to install atleast
[01:53] <void^> catxk: site doesn't want to load for me.. anyway i guess you just deleted the modules. to get them back you'd have to reinstall the kernel package. or compile and install your svn build. remember you have to recompile it after each kernel update.
[01:55] <Drel3> need  program for ip scanning network in range!!!anyone pls
[01:56] <thoreauputic> !repeat
[01:56] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:56] <catxk> void^: sorry, I don't know kernel package, is that kernel as in linux kernel or..? :)
[01:56] <thoreauputic> !info kismet
[01:56] <billy> testing
[01:56] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[01:57] <void^> catxk: yes, those drivers are part of the linux kernel packages in ubuntu.
[01:57] <raboof> i'm having some trouble with hibernate: when going into hibernate, X goes blank, but I can still switch between VT's with alt-f1/alt-f2 etc, and the machine does not shut down
[01:57] <raboof> I cannot type any characters to login though
[01:57] <Drel3> i ll try this thx
[01:57] <jpjacobs> Drel3, if it's wired: nmap, or ettercap,...
[01:57] <raboof> only option seems to be to hard-shutdown the machine, which then just boots like normal instead of coming out of hibernate.
[01:58] <raboof> any ideas what could cause that?
[01:58] <Rome> Excuse me, which is the best torrentsoftware for ubuntu?
[01:58] <[WaZ] > hey
[01:58] <[WaZ] > I need to share a printer over samba network, any good tutorials around?
[01:59] <[WaZ] > !samba
[01:59] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:59] <Pascutti> Rome: the best i dont know, but i'm quite happy with ktorrent
[01:59] <drcode> any one know a p2p tv project in gpl ? that working like raid or grid?
[01:59] <Rome> okey thanks Pascutti
[01:59] <Pascutti> :)
[02:00] <catxk> void^: ok... I'm still not sure what that means, sorry if I'm sille or just not listening... but I apt-get:ed the build-essential, did the "make" and "make install" on the madwifi and I didn't get no error, and now I see my wireless connection in network settings, however it doesn't seem to work still
[02:00] <jordin> I have had a little problem upgrading to 7.04
[02:00] <n33o_> billy, my PC doesnt connect to internet.. im using 10.100 cable to connect.
[02:00] <catxk> can I somehow check if I installed it "wrong" or something?
[02:00] <jordin> I don't know where else to look for info
[02:00] <n33o_> using laptop at the mo.. so connection is fine through XP but in ubuntu it doesnt work
[02:00] <n33o_> anyone help?>
[02:00] <jordin> I was using my 6.10 in a desktop computer, ok
[02:00] <jordin> then I upgraded to 7.04 yesterday
[02:00] <jordin> I cant boot know
[02:01] <locke> =x
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> dumb, dumb dumb dumb............ dumbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
[02:01] <madMike666> i had the same problem jordin
[02:01] <jordin> The error I get with the 2.6.20 kernel is /sbin/modprobe : abnormal exit
[02:01] <shriphani> guys can someone tell me how to mount a disk ?
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> !experimental
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about experimental - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <Pascutti> lol this is the cause that i dont use unstable :|
[02:01] <DM|> Can anyone help me, when i do a deb package install or an apt-get it takes a REALLY long time to "read the database" is there a reason?
[02:01] <shriphani> a disk as in external harddisk
[02:01] <void^> catxk: you can look at dmesg output to see if the driver reports any errors. run 'ifconfig ath0 up && iwlist ath0 scan' to see if it finds any wireless networks.
[02:01] <madMike666> upgraded four computers,
[02:01] <jordin> I can get to the shell of the initrd
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> madMike666: 4?...lol
[02:02] <IdleOne> jordin, /join #ubuntu+1 and ask in there
[02:02] <jordin> and I see that there are some problems with USB drivers
[02:02] <jordin> ok
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> lol,
[02:02] <jordin> Thank you IdleOne
[02:02] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[02:02] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:02] <shriphani> !mounting
[02:02] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:02] <bXi> any idea what could cause an irq timeout on a harddisk?
[02:03] <catxk> void^: it didn't but then I guess the wifi radio is turned off, I think I know how to turn it on, one sec...
[02:03] <F0> hey
[02:04] <thcmonkey> why might a dvd not display correctly? lots of green and pixelated...
[02:05] <madMike666>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[02:05] <DM|> im getting the following error pysqlite2.dbapi2.ProgrammingError, any ideas?
[02:07] <finalbeta> thcmonkey: because of not 100% compatible codecs.
[02:07] <thcmonkey> hmm
[02:08] <albert> !compiz
[02:08] <thcmonkey> finalbeta: any suggestions?
[02:08] <Ayabara> what app would you recommend for connecting to Nokia phones with bluetooth?
[02:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:08] <finalbeta> thcmonkey: if you are using gstreamer, try xine, if that doesn't work, perhaps VLC can play the thing.
[02:08] <thcmonkey> finalbeta: nah, not even vlc will play it
[02:08] <locke> Anyone know what the volume setting which is set to 1 in the sound-juicer configuration editor app is for?
[02:09] <AfroMan> when trying to login, i get this error: http://rafb.net/p/zStJtV53.html
[02:09] <AfroMan> when trying to login, i get this error: http://rafb.net/p/zStJtV53.html
[02:09] <AfroMan> oops
[02:09] <AfroMan> sorry for double paste
[02:10] <catxk> how do I edit a text file via the GUI that is read only with root as owner?
[02:10] <locke> catxk: save as somewhere writable and move it with the terminal?
[02:10] <locke> that's what i do =x
[02:10] <Rome> anyone knows why ktorrent is not working for me? the torrentfiles is not downloading. it just says: "Stalled".. Any idea?
[02:11] <locke> But I think you can do something like gsudo and run the program and it'll allow you to write
[02:11] <locke> not sure though..
[02:11] <catxk> locke: ok, convenient :) thanks
[02:11] <locke> no problem
[02:12] <billy> does the default bittorrent program allow others to download files by default.  i'd like to share the feisty install iso.
[02:12] <jrib> catxk: alt-f2, gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[02:12] <shriphani> locke: can you tell me how to use mouse in console...example for mc ?
[02:12] <sharky--> anyone know how I can get a "registered version" of rar?  I did an apt-get install rar but the archive I am trying to unrar requires rar to be registered.
[02:12] <locke> oh, gksudo, my mistake
[02:12] <locke> mc?
[02:13] <shriphani> locke: midnight commander
[02:13] <locke> Don't know what that is. :)
[02:13] <shriphani> !mc
[02:13] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[02:13] <Lord_Illidan> commandline
[02:13] <Cunning_stunt> will ubuntu work on a p2-200 with 16mb of ram?
[02:13] <locke> ah, hm
[02:13] <locke> Don't know, sorry :)
[02:13] <locke> <-- noob
[02:14] <Cunning_stunt> <- n00b also
[02:14] <ikonia> Cunning_stunt: no
[02:14] <Lord_Illidan> Cunning Stunt, nope..I don't think so
[02:14] <shriphani> ahh
[02:14] <IdleOne> Cunning_stunt, yes if you run xfce or fluxbox or some other light window manager like that
[02:14] <Kkeksas> any help? i want make internet on dlink dsl-200 modem but not working :(
[02:14] <Lord_Illidan> Try Damn Small Linux
[02:14] <ikonia> Cunning_stunt: your nick is also a tad offensive
[02:14] <Guest43572> i get this when trying to log on: http://rafb.net/p/zStJtV53.html
[02:14] <Cunning_stunt> what would be the minimum ram to run it then?
[02:14] <Lord_Illidan> Will Xubuntu work with 16 mb RAM?? I think not
[02:14] <DM|> Whats the command to apt-get remove and purge configuration data
[02:14] <shriphani> deli linux
[02:14] <shriphani> runs on a 386
[02:14] <Lord_Illidan> or at least, it will be extremely slow
[02:14] <ikonia> Cunning_stunt: 128 minimum 256 recommended
[02:14] <jrib> DM|: aptitude purge PACKAGE or apt-get --purge remove PACKAGE
[02:15] <Lord_Illidan> Try DSL...should work
[02:15] <shriphani> Cunning_stunt: try deli linux
[02:15] <Cunning_stunt> ok cheers
[02:15] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[02:15] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:15] <jogis> !dsl
[02:15] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[02:15] <shriphani> Lord_Illidan: can you tell me how to use mouse in a virtual console
[02:16] <Otacon22> anyone know how to put linux in an ipod?
[02:16] <Lord_Illidan> gpm
[02:16] <shriphani> oh
[02:16] <shriphani> that was quick
[02:16] <Lord_Illidan> Deli Linux requires at least 32 MB of RAM
[02:16] <ikonia> Otacon22: ubuntu doesn't support that
[02:16] <shriphani> Lord_Illidan: 386 boxes had 32 mb ram ?
[02:16] <Cunning_stunt> yaeh i just read that
[02:16] <Lord_Illidan> nope, but it says so on the web page
[02:17] <Cunning_stunt> ive got this shit box here with only 16mb in it
[02:17] <Cunning_stunt> the rams that old, its not even SD ram
[02:17] <ikonia> Cunning_stunt: watch your lanaguage
[02:17] <Cunning_stunt> EDO ram was it called?
[02:17] <Lord_Illidan> aw shucks, I think I have the wrong page
[02:17] <shriphani> Cunning_stunt: deli would be a better bet than xubuntu
[02:17] <Lord_Illidan> Ok, it will work on 16 mb RAM
[02:17] <Lord_Illidan> my bad
[02:17] <Lord_Illidan> but it mentions 486 not 386
[02:17] <shriphani> :D
[02:17] <Lord_Illidan> http://delili.lens.hl-users.com/#about
[02:18] <Cunning_stunt> well i dont wanna put ubuntu on my dual core
[02:18] <Lord_Illidan> Why?
[02:18] <Cunning_stunt> coz if it corrupts my harddrive
[02:18] <Cunning_stunt> im screwed
[02:18] <Cunning_stunt> ive never used linux before you see
[02:18] <Lord_Illidan> Hmm, I'm running it on a pentium D, and no problems
[02:18] <shriphani> Cunning_stunt: you need an smp kernel or something
[02:18] <Cunning_stunt> thats why i picked up this shitbox, so if it did damage, it didnt bother me
[02:18] <Lord_Illidan> Ubuntu Edgy supports dual core ok
[02:18] <ikonia> Cunning_stunt: PLEASE watch your language - second time
[02:18] <IdleOne> !ohmy | Cunning_stunt last warning
[02:18] <ubotu> Cunning_stunt last warning: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:19] <Cunning_stunt> so if i installed ubuntu 6.10
[02:19] <Cunning_stunt> i shouldnt have any problems with it whatsoever?
[02:19] <Gorlist> Afternoon
[02:19] <Lord_Illidan> Well, depends on the rest of your hardware
[02:19] <Lord_Illidan> what hardware have you got, and what are the specs?
[02:20] <Gorlist> quick question - ive downloaded a .deb package but can't install on AMD 64
[02:20] <Gorlist> is their some force command?
[02:20] <ikonia> Gorlist: is it build for ubuntu x86_64
[02:20] <Gorlist> not sure, Alien Arena 2007
[02:20] <Cunning_stunt> 2.8Dual core, radeon x300 graphics card, 512ram
[02:21] <IdleOne> Cunning_stunt, you should dualboot on that machine till you decide to get rid of windows
[02:21] <void^> Cunning_stunt: a simple solution: disconnect your oh so valuable harddisk and use some older disk for experiments if you don't feel secure about it
[02:21] <Lord_Illidan> Yes, I agree
[02:21] <Lord_Illidan> And backup!
[02:21] <locke> Hm, why is linux using 781 mb of ram o0;
[02:21] <Lord_Illidan> The only potential mixup I see is the Radeon card
[02:21] <ikonia> locke: caching
[02:21] <IdleOne> Cunning_stunt, take the drive from the old machine and put it in the dual core
[02:21] <locke> ah, k
[02:21] <Cunning_stunt> yeah i was gonna dualboot anyways
[02:21] <Lord_Illidan> locke, type free in the terminal to see how much RAM it is actually using
[02:21] <Cunning_stunt> is 1.5GB enough?
[02:22] <IdleOne> Cunning_stunt, heh nope
[02:22] <Lord_Illidan> hmm...
[02:22] <Cunning_stunt> didnt think so :P
[02:22] <locke> i think you need atleast 2 gigs to install ubuntu on it
[02:22] <Lord_Illidan> Have you a 20 gig harddrive lying around somewhere?
[02:22] <Cunning_stunt> ive got a 40 and a 60
[02:22] <Cunning_stunt> and both are knackered
[02:22] <shriphani> Cunning_stunt: use 40
[02:22] <IdleOne> Cunning_stunt, go pick up a used 20Gig at the local pc store
[02:22] <IdleOne> or use the 40 lol
[02:22] <drcode> any one know a p2p tv project in gpl ? that working like raid or grid?
[02:22] <Cunning_stunt> ill just backup onto DVD's
[02:22] <Lord_Illidan> or else backup your data and just repartition
[02:23] <Lord_Illidan> good idea
[02:23] <shriphani> btw i am gonna install puppy on a celeron now whoppie
[02:23] <Cunning_stunt> bout time i cleaned my HD anyhoo :P
[02:23] <locke> Lord_Illidan: so the +/- buffer is how much is actually free?
[02:23] <ikonia> shindig
[02:23] <ikonia> uups
[02:23] <ikonia> ops
[02:23] <Lord_Illidan> yes
[02:23] <Lord_Illidan> locke yes
[02:23] <locke> used: 236240   free:1831780 :)
[02:24] <Lord_Illidan> for example, linux is using all but 36 mb of 512 mb, when in reality, it is only using half
[02:24] <locke> Though...I would like to know why my left arrow key isn't working =x
[02:24] <juanmabc> hello, exists a file that holds the distribution name like /etc/fedora-release in fedora?
[02:24] <LjL> juanmabc: type "lsb_release -a" to know the release
[02:24] <Lord_Illidan> locke, also consider downloading htop, a very good console alternative to top
[02:25] <LjL> juanmabc: or "cat /etc/issue" if you really want a file
[02:25] <Lord_Illidan> About your left arrow key, what do you mean it doesn't work?
[02:25] <locke> if I have text, I can't go left with the arrow key. o0;
[02:25] <Lord_Illidan> does it work at all, though?
[02:25] <catxk> how can I get permission denied when I use sudo?
[02:26] <ikonia> catxk: what are you trying to do
[02:26] <locke> I'm not sure it was working a little while ago.
[02:26] <catxk> I thought sudo was the destroyer of worlds?
[02:26] <LjL> catxk: files can be -w or -r even for root
[02:26] <ikonia> catxk: what are you trying to do
[02:26] <jrib> catxk: what are you trying to do?
[02:26] <Lord_Illidan> Open a terminal and type xev
[02:26] <juanmabc> I'm not in ubuntu, I'm developing a GPL command that output the distribution name of the system :), please can someone paste the output of lsb_release -a to http://www.rafb.net/paste ?
[02:26] <LjL> catxk: but then root can change the permissions, so yeah, it's the destroyer of worlds anyway
[02:26] <catxk> I'm trying to activate my wifi radio by sudo echo 1 > /proc/fsaa1655g/radio
[02:26] <ikonia> juanmabc: that command already exists
[02:26] <locke> yes, it works
[02:26] <Lord_Illidan> so...
[02:26] <bb> I want to change my files from my external HD. But I'Ve got no rights...how can I change it?
[02:26] <LjL> juanmabc: i will, but "lsb_release" *is* that command. it's supposed to be a standard. google the "LSB" in it ;)
[02:27] <Lord_Illidan> the problem is where? It doesn't work in Openoffice or in vi? or firefox?
[02:27] <locke> Gaim
[02:27] <jrib> catxk: echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/fsaa1655g/radio
[02:27] <locke> and console as well
[02:27] <Lord_Illidan> just GAIM?
[02:27] <locke> let me check my shortcuts =x
[02:27] <gharz> guys, how do i set my wifi to access a network with WPA PSK TKIP encryption? there's no option in the network-admin... please help./
[02:27] <Enselic> I can't eject my computer because it claims to be busy (although no programs that could use it are open). Is there a way to figure out ecavtly why it isbusy_
[02:27] <jrib> catxk: the redirection in your command is done by the shell, which is running as your user, so it doesn't have permissions to write to /proc/fsaa1655g/radio
[02:27] <juanmabc> ok, thank you, LjL
[02:28] <najzlijiji> can somebodz tell me how to enable my USB mouse on Notebook ? it was working until i reinstalled Ubuntu...
[02:28] <LjL> juanmabc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10887/
[02:28] <shriphani> gharz: i use airsnort to crack wep keys
[02:28] <catxk> jrib: ok, thanks... didn't get an error but it didn't work for activating the radio eitherway :/
[02:28] <bb> shriphani...and wor WPA2?
[02:28] <locke> shriphani: how long does that take?
[02:28] <Gorlist> Whats the best ATI drivers to run? that would allow me to play Alien Arena on Ubuntu (Radeon 9800 Pro)
[02:28] <najzlijiji> anzbody.... my USB mouse is not working on notebook.. im using edgy gnome...
[02:29] <Gorlist> as theirs alot of threads about it on the forums :|
[02:29] <ravi> guys, I was trying to add new fonts and in the process I end up crashing all of the gnome login
[02:29] <ravi> need help
[02:29] <najzlijiji> zeah and im stuck with touchpad...
[02:30] <gharz> shriphani, i own the network... i used to have the network opened until somebody's using my network to connect to the internet... when i enable security (with password), my eth1 can't connect because of this password thing.
[02:30] <najzlijiji> can anybody tell me how to reenable USB mouse on notebook
[02:30] <ravi> the only notable info in my X org log is: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/, removing from list!
[02:30] <ravi> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/OTF, removing from list!
[02:30] <ravi> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/CID/, removing from list!
[02:30] <dabaR> if you stop being so evil...
[02:30] <locke> shriphani: how long does netsnort take to crack a wep?
[02:30] <najzlijiji> :P
[02:30] <ravi> anyone willing to help me out?
[02:31] <shriphani> locke: over here........... 2000 packages
[02:31] <shriphani> connection's not mine
[02:31] <shriphani> my neighbour's
[02:31] <ravi> I just want to reset all of the font stuff to their original places, how do I do this?
[02:31] <locke> How long is that in minutes?
[02:31] <ikonia> ravi: how did you change them
[02:31] <shriphani> hmm 10 mins ?
[02:31] <locke> ah, not too bad
[02:31] <jogis> !kernel
[02:31] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:32] <locke> My college has a wireless network but it has WEP ;x
[02:32] <ravi> ikonia was following this guide: http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php
[02:32] <ravi> ikonia, I*
[02:32] <jogis> !recompling kernel
[02:32] <ikonia> so undo what you did
[02:32] <shriphani> locke: i know some guys who spent weeks at the box waiting for airsnort to crack the wep key
[02:32] <locke> =x
[02:32] <shriphani> locke: which college do you go to ?
[02:32] <locke> St. Josephs in NY
[02:32] <shriphani> nice
[02:33] <najzlijiji> there is 1025 of you here and im sure some of you knows how to solw my problem... my USB mouse is not working after reinstalation of ubuntu
[02:33] <bXi> what harddisk manufactorer do you guys recommend
[02:33] <locke> Though, we're getting island wide wifi by the end of the year supposedly :)
[02:33] <ikonia> bXi: doesn't matter
[02:33] <ikonia> bXi: this isn't a hardware channel
[02:33] <ravi> cracking wep really is determined by how many packets you can encounter, if your guy placed his computer in some very low traffic, but high signal place, then it would have concievably taken him weeks
[02:33] <najzlijiji> and what is hardware channel
[02:33] <ran> can someone tell me why a partition i mounted on /mnt/storage doesn't show up on my desktop even though i set it nautilus to show mounted volumes?
[02:33] <ikonia> why are we discussing cracking wep ?
[02:33] <ikonia> najzlijiji: no idea
[02:34] <ravi> use media ran
[02:34] <tbenita> hi, I can't find the packet  gstreamer0.10-cdparanoia in dapper : I only find gstreamer0.8-cdparanoia
[02:34] <ikonia> theneb: then thats all thats available
[02:34] <tbenita> any tip to read cd from gstreamer ?
[02:34] <najzlijiji> media what?
[02:34] <ikonia> theneb: the later version is probably for a later ubuntu release
[02:34] <ran> ravi: even though its a partion on my current hdd which is ext3?
[02:34] <ravi> mount it in the ./media  it'll show up on the desktop for sure
[02:34] <locke> hm, stupid left arrow key doesn't work in gaim or console
[02:35] <ran> ok thx
[02:35] <kharloss> hi . i have a folder inside var/www    var/www/myspace   named    i need to have full read/write privileges for a user named MyName . how can i do this  ?  i need this because i often use WinSCP for connecting , and user account is disabled .
[02:35] <ravi> can anyone solve my problem?
[02:35] <kharloss> hi . i have a folder inside var/www    var/www/myspace   named    i need to have full read/write privileges for a user named MyName . how can i do this  ?  i need this because i often use WinSCP for connecting , and root user account is disabled .
[02:35] <ikonia> kharloss: man chmod
[02:36] <ravi> chmod 777 is your best bet
[02:36] <Guest43572> when trying to log in
[02:36] <kharloss> no no
[02:36] <Guest43572> i get this error
[02:36] <ikonia> ravi: 777 is NOT
[02:36] <Guest43572> http://rafb.net/p/zStJtV53.html
[02:36] <kharloss> i don`t want to chmod 777 my folder
[02:36] <kharloss> just for a custom user
[02:36] <ikonia> kharloss: good choice
[02:36] <ravi> you said full privilege, right?
[02:36] <ravi> for everyone?
[02:36] <ravi> oh, hnvm
[02:36] <kharloss> but only for this user
[02:36] <jrib> kharloss: create a group
[02:36] <ravi> nvm
[02:36] <ravi> didn't see it
[02:36] <ikonia> kharloss: make that user the owner
[02:36] <kharloss> how ?
[02:37] <ikonia> or put him in a group and make that the owner
[02:37] <ikonia> kharloss: man chown
[02:37] <ravi> chown the folder with Myname:myname
[02:37] <ikonia> ravi:  that changes the group too
[02:37] <ravi> yes, depends on what he wants, that's just an option
[02:37] <jrib> kharloss: you can create a group using the 'addgroup' command
[02:37] <ikonia> ravi: he said just the user - not a group
[02:37] <kharloss> and i need it recursive
[02:38] <ikonia> kharloss: man chown
[02:38] <kharloss> right now i`m reading
[02:38] <ravi> karlos, look at the man page as ikonia pointed out, you use the recursive tag
[02:38] <ravi> ok
[02:38] <ravi> kind of new to irc, how do I talk to one person in private ?
[02:38] <ikonia> ravi: /msg
[02:39] <ravi> ah, thx
[02:40] <esaym> what is the traceroute command in ubuntu?
[02:40] <ravi> tracepath?
[02:40] <LjL> esaym: tracepath
[02:40] <esaym> ah thanks
[02:40] <LjL> you can install the "original" traceroute if you like though
[02:40] <thoreauputic> there's also tcptraceroute and mtr
[02:41] <gharz> does edgy uses wpa_supplicant when u first install the system?
[02:41] <LjL> there's a ton, i like xt :)
[02:41] <esaym> is traceroute better?
[02:41] <LjL> esaym: couldn't say. mtr seemed to be quite effective for some reason, here
[02:41] <thoreauputic> esaym: I think tcptraceroute is better but mtr is nice ( continuous update)
[02:42] <thoreauputic> esaym: sometimes traceroute gets blocked, but mtr and tcptraceroute alasys seem to go right throught
[02:42] <thoreauputic> *throught
[02:42] <esaym> ok, well thanks guys
[02:42] <thoreauputic> bah drop the final t ;)
[02:42] <ravi> can anyone help me figure out how to totally reset my font directory structure ?
[02:43] <LjL> thoreauputic: by the way, do you happen to know of anything that would allow me to see a *map* (as in, a graph) of *several* tracerouted sites? in other words, have a glance at which parts of the net are reachable and which are not, by checking a bunch of "key" sites
[02:43] <ikonia> ravi: undo the guide you followed
[02:43] <ikonia> LjL: there is a product called "network notepad" I'm not sure ubuntu has it packaged, that may help
[02:43] <Guest43572> LjJ, can you help, when loggging on i get this error: http://rafb.net/p/zStJtV53.html
[02:43] <thoreauputic> LjL: no, sorry - sounds like a nice idea though :)
[02:44] <LjL> thoreauputic: well, depending on the time interval, the sites involved might not like it, but anyway ;-) even just a version of xt allowing for several traceroutes at once would be nice (though xt doesn't really work so well right now...)
[02:44] <malverian> !seen mjg59
[02:44] <Cunning_stunt> Sorry ( malverian )mjg59 Is not in my Memory.
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen mjg59 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <raboof> LjL: google for 'traceroute graphviz', I imagine you might come up with something
[02:45] <tbenita> When I try to rip a cd with sound-juicer under dapper, it crashes
[02:45] <kenthomson> PLEASE HELP; when i do "sudo aptitude -f install", aptitude wants to install "azureus" and "wengophone" automatically (both of which I have manually installed from source), but that would mean either aptitude would overwrite the existing software or i would have two copies of the same thing on my system. Can you tell me how do I prevent that message from popping up/specify to aptitude that I dont want those software?
[02:45] <salego> server irc.quakenet.org
[02:45] <tbenita> is it a local bug or does somebody else have the same issue ?
[02:45] <dn4> hello
[02:45] <LjL> raboof: that's probably a good idea, i'll see. i was also aware of a (windows, closed source, never tried in WINE) program that could do something like that, though in a weird way, but there's no way i can recall the name
[02:45] <ikonia> kenthomson: you have broke you systems dependencies
[02:46] <ikonia> kenthomson: if you don't allow the package to install its dependencies - it will not work
[02:46] <dn4> I was wondering how does the Feisty release work if I was to use herd-5 right now, and later wanted to upgrade when a final release was done int april?
[02:46] <kenthomson> ikonia, so how do i go about correcting this
[02:46] <gharz> guys, anybody here who could help me connect to my wifi network with WPA PSK TKIP encyption? i can't seem to find an option using the network-admin. please help.
[02:46] <ikonia> kenthomson: remove the packages you installed from source
[02:46] <ikonia> kenthomson: hope nothing is linked against them
[02:46] <kenthomson> ikonia, i want the latest version of this software which i can only get by installing from source, and the .debs are older version.
[02:46] <LjL> Guest43572, i'm not sure, but at a quick reading it would seem you cannot create a file/directory in /tmp for some reason... perhaps check "ls -l / | grep tmp"
[02:46] <ikonia> kenthomson: then you're screwed, you're breaking your system dependencies
[02:46] <jrib> dn4: #ubuntu+1 for feisty, but you would just dist-upgrade on release day
[02:47] <ikonia> kenthomson: the correct thing to do would have been to package the software up in a deb format and link it against the correct dependencies - or log a request in launchpad to have the package made for you
[02:47] <kenthomson> ikonia, so a person who wants latest software (which can only got by installing from source) than the one available in repos, is there no way to do it
[02:47] <LjL> ikonia: windows only, it would seem... network notepad, that is
[02:47] <ikonia> LjL: let me check I have seen a port
[02:48] <ikonia> kenthomson: the correct way is to link and package it correctly not just make/make install - or ask someone to do it for you
[02:48] <kenthomson> ikonia, could you please be kind enough to illustrate how would i go about doing it
[02:48] <kenthomson> ikonia, but when i do sudo checkinstall it fails to install
[02:48] <kenthomson> ikonia, and as it is azureus was just a .jar, i simply copies the files and manually made a shortcut
[02:48] <ikonia> kenthomson: you need to learn how to package software properly and link it properly - or log a request for someone to do it for you
[02:49] <kenthomson> ikonia, can you please explain it to me?
[02:49] <ikonia> kenthomson: I just have - you've installed software outside of the package manager, so software in the package manager is not aware of it so wants to download the dependencies its linked against, rather then your installed software
[02:50] <LjL> raboof: looks like it was a good idea, the second google hit was http://geek00l.blogspot.com/2005/11/scapy-better-traceroute.html , and scapy is available in the repos
[02:50] <ravi> ok, for the fifth time, can someone show me how to reinstall all my fonts to their original placements through the use of apt?
[02:50] <bronze_0_1> anyone know where I can get the list of meta packages?
[02:50] <kenthomson> ikonia, I was talking about the process of "linking it properly" and doing other fancy stuff
[02:50] <ikonia> kenthomson: thats part of building the packages
[02:50] <jrib> ravi: explain your current situation and how it got that way
[02:50] <kenthomson> ikonia, Is there a way i can tell the package manager to ignore that there is something of this sort existing in my system?
[02:51] <ikonia> kenthomson: you need to link the package against packages in the repo at build time so that when you install it gets the packages from the repo rather than different versions
[02:51] <ikonia> kenthomson: no - as if you ignore it and it just downloads the package the dependencies its linked against won't exist so it won't run
[02:52] <kenthomson> ikonia, " you need to link the package against packages in the repo at build time so that when you install it gets the packages from the repo rather than different versions". I am very new to this stuff. You could help by doing execute this, than this, than this. Otherwise give me some web-source. please?
[02:52] <jrib> kenthomson: sudo aptitude remove wengophone azureus
[02:52] <ikonia> kenthomson: there is no websource as you have to understand how to build and link packages against correct dependencies, I can't give you the commands as its a whole process
[02:52] <kenthomson> jrib, aptitude thinks that those software are not installed
[02:53] <kenthomson> ikonia, so be it than, thanks anyways
[02:53] <ikonia> kenthomson: because they are not installed via the package manager
[02:53] <ajayc> well I have dapper installed and I downloaded fiesty alternate CD can I directly upgrade?
[02:53] <jrib> why would it want to install them
[02:53] <ikonia> jrib: a package he wants has dependencies on them
[02:54] <jrib> ikonia: wengophone has no reverse depends, is there another way?
[02:54] <jrib> !away | Kristov
[02:54] <ubotu> Kristov: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:55] <ikonia> jrib: not checked the deps in detail
[02:55] <kenthomson> ikonia, jrib, what about this problem than? I installed gfxboot, which lets me show a message.ububrown file on startup (picture). but i had installed it from a external .deb and the package manager doesn't have it. So aptitude tells me that grub-gfxboot package is broken, and it wants to install the package "grub". But the external deb gfxboot conflicts with "grub" so i cant have it installed. please understand that the package gfxboot is working fla
[02:55] <kenthomson> wlessy and the system is fine, i just need to convince the package manager.
[02:55] <ikonia> kenthomson: again - you have broke your package manager dependencies
[02:56] <ravi> ok, I was following http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php to turn Ubuntu to a more OSX feel. At the point where it starts going on talking about fonts, I followed their exact directions and when they asked me to log in and log back out, I simply fc-cache'd the system to update the fonts. I continued with the newly installed font and all was fine. However, on the subsequent login after a reboot, I wasn't able to login to gnome. I saw the gnome s
[02:56] <ravi> creen for a second and it just crashed on me. Looking at X org logs, everything looks fine bot a lot of the font directories seemed to have been shifted.
[02:56] <jrib> kenthomson: does apt-get -f install  also prompt you to install azureus and wengophone?
[02:56] <ikonia> ravi: undo what you have done - for the last time
[02:56] <tbenita> kenthomson, did you look at the dpkg option --ignore-depends ?
[02:56] <kenthomson> ikonia, how do i go about solving this time, in the previous attempt it was from source through make, but this time, it is from a .deb. than too it fails?
[02:56] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: you are doing all the things that you should not do ( 3rd party debs etc)
[02:56] <kenthomson> jrib, yes
[02:56] <kenthomson> tbenita, i am not that profecient to make sense of it
[02:56] <ikonia> kenthomson: becacuase your package manager isn't aware of that package so it wants to fix what it thinks is corrupted grub
[02:57] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, i understand that, but i need a way to tell the package manager it is OK what i am doing, or someone could tell me what should i do to install it "correctly"
[02:57] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: the packaging system isn't magic - it can't know about stuff yu install from outside it
[02:57] <thoreauputic> *you
[02:57] <kenthomson> ikonia, but i had uninstalled grub from the package manager
[02:57] <najzlijiji> if anyone wants to know i enabled my USB mouse by using "noapic" boot option....
[02:57] <ikonia> kenthomson: but for example ubuntu base depends on grub (random example)
[02:57] <bXi> can i let a hdd manually sleep?
[02:57] <locke> if anyone is curious i fixed my left arrow key but logging out :P
[02:57] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: basically, you have confused the system something terrible :)
[02:57] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, please tell me how to tell it to than, do you mean to say i can't have any external packages, whether they are .debs or from source (as make)?
[02:58] <kenthomson> ikonia, yes it does
[02:58] <ikonia> kenthomson: so thats why it wants to install grub
[02:58] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: source - I would suggest atleast using checkinstall
[02:58] <ravi> can anyone help me out on my issue with fonts? it's not as simple as reverting the guide.
[02:58] <niu> where can i get printers driver for canon ip1600?
[02:58] <ikonia> thoreauputic you've opened a can of worms
[02:58] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, checkinstall fails installing the software and the only option left is make
[02:58] <ikonia> ravi: yes it is
[02:58] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: 4rd party debs - not unless you know what you are doing
[02:58] <ikonia> kenthomson: no - the option is to fix the checkinstall
[02:58] <thoreauputic> umm 3rd party
[02:59] <kenthomson> ikonia, how do i fix a checkinstall
[02:59] <locke> Hm, I did something that now ubuntu doesn't feel like mounting my external anymore..
[02:59] <catxk> ok guys, although my wifi led is not lit, I can scan for networks and it seems I can connect, according to iwconfig ath0, but I still cant surf! what is matter?
[02:59] <ikonia> kenthomson: depended on the error - but I'd guess as your system is messed up any way thats part of it
[02:59] <catxk> maybe I gotta conf dhcp or something?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> ikonia: I realise that checkinstall is not optimal :)
[03:00] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, ikonia i am looking for solution, i told you about my problem, so what shouldi do now?
[03:00] <thoreauputic> kenthomson:  try sudo aptitude -f install and pray a lot
[03:00] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, it wants to install azureus wengophone and grub, but i dont want it to
[03:00] <ikonia> kenthomson: re-install so you have a clean box and try not to break the dependency tree and package things properly
[03:00] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, i want to use the latest versions
[03:01] <catxk> how do I check network status, like windows ipconfig?
[03:01] <ravi> niu: bad printer for linux but you can try http://gentoo-wiki.com/Canon_pixma_series
[03:01] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: *sigh* we understood that. You have just screwed up the packaging system
[03:01] <kenthomson> ikonia, from where will i learn to correctly install a .deb so that the package manager doesn't act foolishly, and also how to compile from source. In a fresh install the sam,e thing is going to happen
[03:01] <ikonia> kenthomson: 1.) don't compile from source - package properly or request a packager do it for you from say launchpad 2.) don't install random .deps - package properly
[03:01] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, you should understand that sudo apt-get install -f, is perfectly happy with everything and there is no other evidence of a broken computer system, except that aptitude thing, it insists too much
[03:02] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: the apckaging manager is not acting foolishly - you made the mistake because you didn't understand how it works
[03:02] <ikonia> kenthomson: the evidence is that your system has screwed dependencies - thats a broke system
[03:02] <lightseed> hello is there some kind of project management software?
[03:02] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, alright i understand that, but now that i have done it how do i tell it what i want to do?
[03:02] <jrib> lightseed: something like trac?
[03:02] <ravi> wow, who is supposed to work for who? package manager < user.
[03:03] <ikonia> kenthomson: re-install your system
[03:03] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: get rid of the offenders - you may be able to delte them or use "make uninstall" for example
[03:03] <thoreauputic> *delete
[03:03] <lightseed> jrib: no not really
[03:03] <kenthomson> ikonia, but after reinstallation i will do the same things i did, as i want the latest version of certain things
[03:03] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, dont have the source anymore
[03:03] <ikonia> kenthomson: but I've told you what to do with your clean system
[03:04] <ikonia> kenthomson: this is always your problem, you don't listen
[03:04] <locke> pmount doesn't seem to want to mount my external hard drive ;[
[03:04] <xfab> hi there
[03:04] <lightseed> jrib: just to manage stuff so its organized
[03:04] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: 1) azureus is not source - you can just unpack it somwhere safe like ~/bin
[03:04] <ravi> NOTE: ikonia, don't tell me to revert the guide, I have already done that. ok, I was following http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php to turn Ubuntu to a more OSX feel. At the point where it starts going on talking about fonts, I followed their exact directions and when they asked me to log in and log back out, I simply fc-cache'd the system to update the fonts. I continued with the newly installed font and all was fine. However, on the subseque
[03:04] <ravi> nt login after a reboot, I wasn't able to login to gnome. I saw the gnome screen for a second and it just crashed on me. Looking at X org logs, everything looks fine bot a lot of the font directories seemed to have been shifted.
[03:05] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: well if you have deleted the source you have a fishing expedition to find all the files
[03:05] <lightseed> maybe taskjuggler
[03:05] <ikonia> ravi: sounds like it may be easier to install
[03:05] <xfab> my selfcompiled kernel hangs while / after loading the keyboard, anyone could help me?
[03:05] <tiagoboldt> by now, we can only order ubuntu 6.06 cd's, will this change? will feisty be available from ship it?
[03:06] <ikonia> xfab: why did you build your own kernel
[03:06] <ravi> why not? ikonia
[03:06] <ikonia> ravi: why not what ?
[03:06] <ravi> rebuild a kernel
[03:07] <ravi> I did it for wireless drivers
[03:07] <ikonia> ravi: because if you don't know what you're doing it can wreck your whole system
[03:07] <grimboy> ikonia, So? All part of learning new stuff.
[03:07] <ikonia> exactly yes
[03:07] <ravi> generally speaking, the kernel rebuild process will not be stupid enough to let your keyboard die on you
[03:07] <ikonia> but I'm asking what his driver was behind it to understand why he did it
[03:08] <xfab> ikonia: I wanted to safe boottime and enlarge the hardware compability
[03:08] <ravi> k
[03:08] <ikonia> xfab: why ? a new kernel doesn't increase hardware compatability as ubuntu builds all the modules
[03:08] <jrib> ravi: does a new user work?
[03:08] <xfab> ikonia: hmm well, but at least I'll save some boot time
[03:08] <ikonia> xfab: a failed keyboard config shouldn't hang your kernel, I suggest is something else
[03:08] <drcode> .///quit
[03:08] <ikonia> xfab: doubtful
[03:09] <rambo3> 0,1 micro seconds
[03:09] <xfab> ikonia: I've got a USB-Keyboard and USB-Mouse going over one receiver
[03:09] <ikonia> xfab: that shouldn't hang a boot
[03:09] <xfab> ikonia: and I disabled the support for serial input devices, could that be the cause?
[03:09] <ikonia> no
[03:09] <ravi> xfab, try to edit your kernel boot parameters and add noapci
[03:10] <ikonia> xfab: you can boot  box without a keyboard nad mouse
[03:10] <ikonia> ravi: what makes you think its noapci ?
[03:10] <xfab> ravi: ok, I'll try that
[03:10] <ikonia> xfab: are there any apci warnings ?
[03:10] <xfab> ikonia: I see
[03:10] <bb> My Computer: 2 Network Cards - 1 Internet and 1 to Windows. How can I join with my WinPC over the Ubuntu the Internet?
[03:10] <ravi> it's a guess but I've had that work in the past with rebuilt kernels
[03:10] <ikonia> ravi: don't make random guesses with the kernel
[03:10] <xfab> ikonia: I mounts the root file system, loads the mouse, then the keyboard and then there's just nothing further
[03:10] <xfab> ikonia: I just hangs, no error
[03:10] <ravi> no big deal, it's just a freaking tag
[03:11] <bulmer> bb umm you're using your ubuntu as the gateway for your pc's ?
[03:11] <bb> I will!
[03:11] <ikonia> ravi: not its not - it changes the way your kernel deals with apci requests
[03:11] <ikonia> ravi: that is a reasonable deal
[03:11] <bb> But till yet I've not found out how to... .
[03:11] <ravi> it can be changed extremely easily
[03:11] <ravi> no big
[03:11] <ravi> deal
[03:11] <ikonia> nice way to debug a problem - make random changes
[03:11] <bb> Hey bulmer, can U help me plz?
[03:12] <wheels3572> Anyone help me with LaTeX and tell me if it's really simple to use?
[03:12] <ravi> in fact, just a few minutes ago, someone in this very irc channel did that and got it to work with their usb gear
[03:12] <ikonia> xfab: I suggest you listen to ravi and his random debugging
[03:12] <bulmer> bb: here are the things you need to do, have a hub or switch between your pc and your ubuntu (call that network 1 and have it subnet to 192.168.x.x)
[03:12] <vox754> wheels3572, it requires to learn basic commands, then read manuals of specific packages.
[03:12] <jrib> wheels3572: it's like html for text
[03:12] <xfab> ikonia: I don't think that this solution is the best one
[03:12] <wheels3572> vox754, oh ok
[03:12] <bulmer> bb then on the 2nd interface of your ubuntu, connect that to your modem/dsl router
[03:12] <ikonia> xfab: best of luck
[03:13] <ravi> yeah, hope that turns out for you
[03:13] <catxk> just installed madwifi and now I can successfully scan for wifi networks, and it sort of seems like I can connect to mine (open access), but I don't get any ip from the dhcp, I think... any tips?
[03:13] <bb> Have I allready done :)
[03:13] <bulmer> bb then run iptables and allow NAT and forwarding
[03:13] <jrib> wheels3572: google for "not so short guide to latex", that's a good intro
[03:13] <bb> Need to configure it right... .
[03:13] <bb> NAT and forwarding...okay.
[03:13] <wheels3572> jrib, ty
[03:13] <vignesh> Hey..
[03:13] <ravi> latex is a pain to learn but great once you have it
[03:14] <xfab> ikonia: just one question, what comes after loading the input devices?
[03:14] <savvas> when will k3b 1.0 be added in the repos?
[03:14] <vox754> wheels3572, some people think of it (TeX) as a complete programming language. My experience is that you can start using LaTeX immediately but you may have trouble setting specific options.
[03:14] <bulmer> bb google is your friend :)  say look for iptables tutorial  by gandalf
[03:14] <xfab> ikonia: normally
[03:14] <vignesh> Can I install the gnome menu that is used in opensuse on ubuntu ?
[03:14] <wheels3572> vox754, ok ty
[03:14] <bb> Thank ya bulmer! Very nicefull!!!! THANX! CyA
[03:15] <bulmer> catxk: you can try using iwlist  commands.
[03:16] <catxk> bulmer: what to do more specifically? I can see all the networks...
[03:16] <vox754> vignesh, GNOME menu or GRUB menu?
[03:16] <HydroUK> anyone know when i add /usr/sbin/855resolution 5x 1280 800 to my rc.local its seamingly ignorded?
[03:16] <HydroUK> ignored*
[03:16] <vignesh> gnome menu
[03:16] <bulmer> catxk: you tried ifup wlan0 or maybe just run 'dhcpclient'
[03:16] <vignesh> The menu that shows frequently used , recently used and so on..
[03:17] <troughton> can some one advise me where to go to have a live chat about the live usb drive
[03:17] <catxk> bulmer: I ran dhclient ath0 and got No DHCPOFFERS received.
[03:18] <jrib> ravi: k, just try changing the settings for your old user by editing his config files then
[03:18] <vox754> vignesh, I installed SUSE a year ago, so I don't recall exactly what you mean.
[03:18] <albert> !compiz
[03:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:18] <bulmer> catxk: is the AP yours? if yours, can you disable encryption first to get you started?
[03:18] <vignesh> vox754: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2641/gmenu1wh5.jpg
[03:18] <catxk> bulmer: it is disabled, and it works with dhcp under windows
[03:19] <catxk> bulmer: ifup wlan0 says no device a lot of times, ifup ath0 says "interface ath0 already configured"
[03:19] <HydroUK> anyone able to instruct me as to what im doing wrong, works on all my other linux distro's except ubuntu
[03:20] <HydroUK> anyone???
[03:20] <vox754> vignesh, oh, very nice... 30 hard drives... I'm sure there is someway to do that.
[03:20] <xfab> could someone tell me what happens at booting after loading the keyboard?
[03:20] <bulmer> catxk: you alternate between ifup and ifdown -- i believe both calls dhcpclient to acquire and release ip addr respectively
[03:20] <vignesh> vox754: no that.. see the gnome main menu
[03:21] <ziadoz> is there a command that will let me take ownership of a folder in ubuntu?
[03:22] <locke> chown
[03:22] <ziadoz> i have a dir in /home thats owned by root
[03:22] <vignesh> vox754: found it
[03:22] <bulmer> as root you use chown to "change ownership"
[03:22] <vignesh> vox754: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/gnome/gnome-main-menu
[03:22] <ziadoz> ahhh
[03:22] <vox754> vignesh, I think I used KDE so it is different. What I did liked about SUSE was the fact that I could select which OS to boot next time; I don't know if this depends on the desktop since then I was using KDE and now GNOME.
[03:22] <AnxiousCo> What do you guys use for RealMedia?
[03:23] <jrib> AnxiousCo: mplayer
[03:23] <jrib> !restricted | AnxiousCo
[03:23] <ubotu> AnxiousCo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:23] <ravi> just created new user to replace my old one. how can I copy all non config file data over to my new user properly?
[03:23] <vignesh> vox754: ya .. I liked that feature too.. that feature existed in Mandrake 10.1 too...
[03:23] <bulmer> vox754: selection of OS is inserted via the GRUB
[03:24] <ziadoz> ahh, cool i have ownership again, thanks guys :)
[03:24] <ravi> /home/user1 = user1's home, /home/newuser = new user's home
[03:24] <goundy> guys, how to boot on console with the live CD?
[03:24] <troughton> can some one advise me where to go to have a live chat about the live usb drive
[03:25] <bulmer> ravi you use cp
[03:25] <bulmer> then chown
[03:25] <jrib> ravi: cp -a /home/user1/* /home/newuser  I guess, then: sudo chown -R newuser: /home/newuser
[03:25] <ravi> awesome, thx
[03:25] <locke> goundy: isn't there a choice when the cd loads?
[03:25] <vox754> bulmer, yeah, we know. But have you used SUSE? There is a way to select which OS to boot next time when you turn of the PC. I guess someway the parameters are passed to the bootloader before actually booting the next time.
[03:25] <goundy> locke, my teacher says no :P
[03:25] <jrib> ravi: you won't get any hidden files.  hidden files may or may not be "data"
[03:25] <goundy> i'm trying helping him but i don't have CD to test now
[03:26] <bulmer> vox754: yes SuSE is my reliable distro
[03:26] <giuseppe> it
[03:26] <catxk> bulmer: it's so weird, it doesn't work, I cannot surf, but when I do ifdown it says "DHCP RELEASE on ath0 to 192.168.1.254 port 67", 192.168.1.254 is my router so the radio and all is obviously working
[03:26] <locke> Hm, not sure then, I thought there was
[03:26] <catxk> I can't see what the problem might be? everything seems to be ok but it's not
[03:26] <ravi> what about those dot config files and folders jrib?
[03:26] <ravi> I don't want those either
[03:26] <raboof> jrib: cp -a (-R) will copy hidden files afaik, just not pipes etc
[03:26] <|freddy|> there is no shutdown option in my Gnome.
[03:27] <|freddy|> how can i add shutdown option ? in logoff switchuser hibernate. all options there but no shutdown option :<
[03:27] <jrib> raboof: but the glob won't glob to any hidden directories directly under his $HOME, I think?
[03:27] <vox754> bulmer, if you have used SUSE then how can you do that booting another OS from the turn off button? I tried SUSE but I think Ubuntu worked better for me and it is easier.
[03:28] <raboof> jrib: ah, true. 'cp -a /home/user1 /home/newuser' would though.
[03:28] <linux1> does anyone know how to use the lightscribe gui in 6.06...unable to figure out how to enter text,
[03:28] <ravi> ok, I just want to move all non config files over
[03:28] <ravi> not just copy
[03:28] <ziadoz> bah, xampp keeps telling me i dont have permission to access my webpages
[03:28] <jrib> ravi: then use mv instead of cp -a
[03:28] <bulmer> vox754: i do things manually, i can always change the default OS to boot from, ehh modify /boot/grub/menu.lst  which i believe can also be done via yast2
[03:28] <raboof> ravi: how do you determine which files are config files?
[03:28] <ravi> :-) config files == .*
[03:29] <bulmer> ravi not all of them are
[03:29] <troughton> dose anyone in here know about the live usb disc ??
[03:29] <ravi> bulmer: I don't care for the rest of them
[03:29] <raboof> ravi: 'mv /home/olduser/* /home/newuser/' would probably do it, like jrib suggested
[03:29] <ravi> I jus want my data over
[03:30] <bulmer> ravi thats too generic, all "data"..may as well copy everything
[03:30] <bulmer> but dont forget generic
[03:31] <ravi> gah... ok, I am done
[03:31] <bulmer> but dont forget chown*
[03:31] <ravi> yes, I didn't
[03:31] <vox754> bulmer, well I don't want to modify menu.lst, SUSE had this great option where I could select turn off the PC and reboot using Win XP so I could go to the bathroom and return already logged in on WinXP. That is, without waiting to select the OS on the GRUB menu, and still keeping Linux as the default OS. I hope I made myself clear.
[03:31] <coopster> is there any documentation on how to make a package and submit it to be considered for inclusion in Ubuntu repositories?
[03:32] <diogo> ola
[03:32] <bulmer> vox754: i hope you understood what I meant by modifying GRUB menu, it can be done via your text editor or yast2 menu (graphically)
[03:32] <mikerob1> is there a seperate developers channel?
[03:32] <diogo> alguem pode me ajudar?
[03:32] <diogo> anyone can help me ?
[03:33] <jrib> !pt | diogo
[03:33] <ubotu> diogo: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:33] <ravi> ask away diogo
[03:33] <vox754> bulmer, yeah I understood, but well... I'm ranting since I don't use SUSE anymore. Have a nice day.
[03:33] <bulmer> vox754: at next boot, the effects happens
[03:33] <diogo> pt
[03:33] <matrix> hi, i have an a8js and my sound is generally working. but when i plug in my mic (headset) it still uses the latpos build in ones instead of the just pluged in. any idea how to change this??
[03:38] <madsrh> Newbie here! How do I install a .run file???
[03:39] <lakcaj> maddler, where did you get it from?
[03:39] <lakcaj> chmod 755 filename.run
[03:39] <lakcaj> ./filename.run
[03:39] <ompaul> madsrh, not a great idea to just run these things - what is it
[03:40] <madsrh> It's a 3d game. Got it here: http://returntocastlewolfenstein.filefront.com/file/Enemy_Territory;14408#Comments
[03:41] <lakcaj> yeah, chmod it, and then ./filename.run
[03:41] <snaidis> Ho do i remove wine and install it again?
[03:41] <lakcaj> snaidis, rm /home/username/.wine -rfv
[03:42] <snaidis> OK thanks
[03:42] <snaidis> And How do I install it again?
[03:43] <Karark|away> anyone know how i can disable my power/sleep/wake buttons?
[03:43] <lakcaj> snaidis, winecfg will configure wine again, or just install something
[03:43] <SanketMedhi> hello
[03:43] <snaidis> OK thanks :)
[03:44] <madsrh> I can run the file with chmod!!
[03:44] <snaidis> How do I delete it from the aplications menu?
[03:44] <SanketMedhi> Problem: I am using Abiword to create a new file and save it in DOC format. But it always saves the file in RTF format. Is anyone facing this problem?
[03:44] <AnxiousCo> !restricted
[03:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:45] <madsrh> I get this: chmod: missing operand after '/home/madsrh/Desktop/et-linux-2.55.x86.run'
[03:45] <bulmer> madsrh: what is it supposed to do? have you read its README files?
[03:46] <lakcaj> maddler, chmod 755 et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[03:46] <lakcaj> ./et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[03:46] <madsrh> bulmer -> there is no. It's just a .run file that's all!
[03:46] <snaidis> hmm what does it mean -rfv?
[03:46] <lakcaj> (r)ecursive (f)orce (v)erbose
[03:46] <bulmer> madsrh: it is expecting some options when your run it
[03:47] <lakcaj> maddler, you need the 755
[03:47] <ThaNerd> could anyone tell me how i can set up ubuntu so that it automatically logs me in when i start the computer?
[03:47] <AlexC_> morning.
[03:47] <SanketMedhi> My Problem: I am using Abiword to create a new file and save it in DOC format. But it always saves the file in RTF format. Is anyone facing this problem?
[03:48] <lakcaj> maddler, chmod 755 filename.run makes it executable, and then ./filename.run runs it
[03:48] <SanketMedhi> anyone?
[03:48] <bulmer> SanketMedhi: how did you verify that its RTF? btw there are several .doc formats
[03:48] <Karark|away> anyone know how i can disable my power/sleep/wake buttons?
[03:49] <SanketMedhi> bulmer: when I click it to open it, I get an error message saying... The filename "sanket.doc" indicates that this file is of type "Word document". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "RTF document". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[03:49] <bulmer> Karark|away: you have look under the Preferences menu yet? power management?
[03:49] <madsrh> lakcaj --> what is wrong? nothing happens, the terminal just changes to the next line!
[03:49] <snaidis> I tried to remove it with rm
[03:50] <snaidis> but it didn't remove it...
[03:50] <Karark|away> bulmer, yea, neither have the option
[03:50] <lakcaj> madsrh, after the chmod command?  That's correct.  Now run the .run file
[03:50] <ThaNerd> kabtoffe: yeah. i disabled them with a screw diver and a dremel ;-)
[03:50] <Karark|away> bulmer, power management just allows me to set it to power down or ask... i want the key to be dead
[03:50] <lakcaj> madsrh, cd to the directory that the file is in, and then ./et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[03:51] <snaidis> lakcaj, I tried to remove it with your command but it didn't remove it...
[03:51] <bulmer> Karark|away: thats a mobo option eh? your speaking of a keyboard key?
[03:51] <snaidis> lakcaj,I tried with sudo too...
[03:51] <Karark|away> a keyboard key, yes
[03:51] <SanketMedhi> bulmer: any idea?
[03:51] <snaidis> lakcaj,woops sorry my fault
[03:51] <bulmer> Karark|away: as someone suggested, screw driver and or  a dremell
[03:51] <madsrh> cd  /home/madsrh/Desktop/
[03:52] <Karark|away> lol
[03:52] <Karark|away> guess that's one way to go about it
[03:52] <bulmer> Karark|away: replace the keyboard?
[03:52] <Karark|away> isn't there a conf file somewhere where i can just delete the entry for that key?
[03:52] <bulmer> look into loadkeys
[03:53] <AlexC_> Karark|away: xbindkeys ?
[03:53] <Karark|away> i will look for both
[03:54] <bXi> i have a 160gb hdd with a linux install on first partition and some data on the 3rd partition
[03:54] <bXi> how big is the chance that parted screws up on this?
[03:54] <madsrh> Nothing! it will just try to open it with Gedit
[03:54] <crdlb> bXi, it's always smart to have a backup
[03:54] <kenthomson> bXi, Data not backed up as as good as lost!
[03:55] <kenthomson> bXi, that hold true if you have a IBM Data-Warehouse or a HomePC
[03:55] <kenthomson> bXi, *holds
[03:55] <bXi> i got a custom home pc :p
[03:55] <tbuss> thinking of installing ubuntu on a second internal hdd. i have found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot I want to keep my existing windoze partitions intact. if i understand correctly, once i load the disk ubuntu should recognize my windoze partitions and I can select which hdd i want to install ubuntu?
[03:55] <AlexC_> tbuss: yep
[03:56] <AlexC_> tbuss: then when you start the PC up it will ask you if you want to boot into Windows or Ubuntu
[03:56] <tbuss> AlexC_ how safe is this?
[03:56] <Taxman> tbuss: but if you install windows later, it will tend to wipe out the master boot record
[03:56] <bXi> tbuss: when you read what the installer tells you very
[03:56] <AlexC_> tbuss: how unsafe is it? Hard to say.
[03:56] <Taxman> tbuss: pretty safe, but backup. you should anyway
[03:57] <CreepyCrawly> good evenning people
[03:57] <AlexC_> morning,
[03:57] <CreepyCrawly> i having major problems with my sources.list
[03:57] <locke> How do I know which sda is the external harddrive I want to mount?
[03:57] <Karark|away> AlexC_, and bulmer, know how i can find out the keycode for a key?
[03:57] <CreepyCrawly> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/multiverse Packages             99% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.89.8)] 
[03:57] <CreepyCrawly> then it halts
[03:58] <Taxman> locke: boot without it and see which one isn't there? :)
[03:58] <tbuss> you all have been very helpful, what would be a good setup for ubuntu as far as partitions. I was planning on using the default, i believe this creates two partitions?
[03:58] <AlexC_> tbuss: yes it creates 2 and is what I use, the default is good
[03:58] <CreepyCrawly> ubuntu is so fine , i dont have except it on my lappy
[03:58] <CreepyCrawly> AlexC_,  can you guide me
[03:59] <AlexC_> CreepyCrawly: please ask everyone and not just me =)
[03:59] <tbuss> AlexC_ one last question i have both the alternative and liveCD which should I use for this procedure?
[03:59] <AlexC_> tbuss: which ever one you want really, they both install the same thing - though, I would say LiveCD as it's easier (has a GUI)
[04:00] <CreepyCrawly> AlexC_, erm your the only one alive
[04:00] <CreepyCrawly> heheh
[04:00] <AlexC_> :P
[04:00] <CreepyCrawly> ;)
[04:00] <CreepyCrawly> its just a sources.list issue
[04:00] <Netham45> XD
[04:00] <Taxman> anyone know of a boot floppy that will let me boot from a USB cd-rom if my bios doesn't see it?
[04:00] <Netham45> this is a wrong number
[04:00] <Netham45> I got a call from a debt collector.
[04:00] <tbuss> AlexC_ i appreciate your help, ill post back when im done, hopefully everything will work as advertised......
[04:00] <Netham45> what he/she doesn't realize is that im 15...
[04:00] <Netham45> oh well
[04:01] <AlexC_> CreepyCrawly: try a "sudo apt-get autoclean"  "sudo apt-get clean"
[04:01] <albert> if i unsinstall a program with dependencies, but don't remove the dependencies, do they influence my system ?
[04:01] <AlexC_> albert: influence?
[04:01] <Taxman> they just take up space for the most part
[04:01] <lakcaj> albert, no
[04:01] <albert> alexc: f.e. i install amarok on xubuntu and remove amarok
[04:02] <ooglaboogla> after a recent update i get the following message when compiling from source
[04:02] <ooglaboogla> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:02] <CreepyCrawly> AlexC_,  testing
[04:02] <Enselic> How do I list which files are installed for a specifc package?
[04:02] <lakcaj> albert, unless you are concerned about HD space, then no
[04:02] <ooglaboogla> any ideas on how to correct this
[04:02] <WorldDomination> hi
[04:02] <albert> k, thank you
[04:02] <AlexC_> Enselic: gah! I use to know this :P
[04:02] <ThaNerd> what's the "default" ftp server in ubuntu (so that i google for docs...) ?
[04:02] <CreepyCrawly> AlexC_,  still hangs
[04:02] <Taxman> Enselic: man dpkg
[04:02] <lakcaj> Enselic, dpkg -L packagename
[04:02] <CreepyCrawly> can you give me ur sources list
[04:02] <Enselic> ty ppl
[04:02] <Stickymaddness> Hey everyone!
[04:03] <AlexC_> hi
[04:03] <CreepyCrawly> hey
[04:03] <Taxman> wow this channel scrolls fast, I wish gaim could turn off the enter and exit notifications
[04:03] <AlexC_> Taxman: yeah I wish xchat would do that to
[04:03] <AlexC_> CreepyCrawly: hold on,
[04:03] <Stickymaddness> Could someone help me out a little with installing applications?
[04:04] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: not if you don't ask a question,
[04:04] <Stickymaddness> Well, first off all, how do I install an application....say bitchx ?
[04:04] <rambo3> !install | Stickymaddness
[04:04] <ubotu> Stickymaddness: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:04] <rambo3> sorry about that
[04:05] <rambo3> !synaptic | Stickymaddness
[04:05] <ubotu> Stickymaddness: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:05] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: System->Admin->Synaptic then serach for it
[04:05] <AlexC_> rambo3: no need to do it twice,
[04:05] <AlexC_> CreepyCrawly: http://pastebin.ca/400162
[04:05] <ThaNerd> rambo3: what's the default ftp server's name in edgy?
[04:05] <CreepyCrawly> ok
[04:05] <Stickymaddness> AlexC_ I don't have Synaptic!
[04:05] <rambo3> AlexC_, do that twice ?
[04:05] <AlexC_> rambo3: you did !install twice
[04:05] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: you sure?
[04:05] <ompaul> Stickymaddness, so what are you using ..
[04:05] <Death_Sargent> What is so important about tcp/udp port 36111 and why do people keep trying to connect to me through it
[04:06] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: System->Admin->Synaptic Package Manager
[04:06] <Stickymaddness> Yes, using Feisty Faun
[04:06] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: why are you using Feisty ><
[04:06] <rambo3> AlexC_, no i didn't
[04:06] <Stickymaddness> It's the only version I could get hold of....
[04:06] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: Feisty is under heavy development and it _will_ break.
[04:06] <ompaul> Stickymaddness, that is unstable beta go to #ubuntu+1 and install edgy or dapper for help here
[04:06] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: how do you mean??
[04:07] <kestaz> Stickymaddness, apt-get install bitchx
[04:07] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[04:07] <Stickymaddness> kestaz: gives me an access denied error
[04:07] <kestaz> Stickymaddness, so log with root with su
[04:07] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: I highly suggest you uninstall Feisty and installed Edgy (6.10)
[04:07] <kestaz> "su"
[04:08] <Stickymaddness> AlexC_ Ok, I'll do that then.....
[04:08] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: Feisty is not released until April 19th and it will break, if you want a stable system us 6.10
[04:08] <ompaul> !root > kestaz
[04:08] <seabag> hey, I didn't think su worked in Ubuntu.... it's always sudo -i
[04:08] <kestaz> working su
[04:08] <ompaul> kestaz, have a look at the message from ubotu root is not enabled on Ubuntu
[04:08] <Taxman> su works just fine
[04:08] <Death_Sargent> Does anyone know what tcp/udp port 36111 is used for in instant messaging and is it a bad thing that i have it blocked
[04:08] <Stickymaddness> kestazL: what is the root password though?
[04:08] <CreepyCrawly> AlexC_,  thanks
[04:08] <ompaul> kestaz, ergo there is no su
[04:09] <bulmer> darn, i didnt even notice til now, the AGP video card i bought only has only one notched..can someone verify if their AGP card has one or two notched where the pins are?
[04:09] <Taxman> Death_Sargent: google for the port
[04:09] <Taxman> you can usually find what uses it that way
[04:09] <ooglaboogla> any help with this -> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:09] <AlexC_> CreepyCrawly: does it work now?
[04:09] <Taxman> ooglaboogla: need to use su?
[04:09] <CreepyCrawly> yeah
[04:09] <CreepyCrawly> amazingly yeah
[04:10] <Stickymaddness> Thanks everyone, I will download 6.10 and give that a go......
[04:10] <ompaul> Stickymaddness, so where did you get this link to the development version?
[04:10] <AlexC_> CreepyCrawly: cool cool,
[04:10] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: may I ask where you got the link to download Feisty from, or where you heard about Feisty?
[04:10] <Stickymaddness> ompaul, I have a friend who gave me a the cd.....
[04:10] <ooglaboogla> Taxman: i'm root, do i need to be a normal user and su -c 'blah' instead
[04:10] <ompaul> Stickymaddness, not a good friend then - they should have given you edgy or dapper
[04:10] <kestaz> i am using feisty because i need support for my hardware ;)
[04:10] <ido_> hi there I'm new to ubuntu and have a simple question.  Many times people refer to a specific version of ubuntu, like breezy, sneezy, etc.  how do i know what i have?
[04:10] <kestaz> everything great in feisty ;)
[04:11] <ompaul> kestaz, so be in #ubuntu+1
[04:11] <Taxman> ooglaboogla: shouldn't. sorry I'm not going to be able to help on that one
[04:11] <Stickymaddness> omgpaul, yeah I guess :P
[04:11] <AlexC_> ido_: System->About Ubuntu
[04:11] <ooglaboogla> Taxman: i'm using 'fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage'
[04:11] <ido_> thank alex!
[04:11] <ooglaboogla> Taxman: ok
[04:11] <Death_Sargent> Aparently its an irc related port especially on linux
[04:11] <Stickymaddness> Thanks guys, later....
[04:11] <ravi> I knew this at some point but how do I call the same command again and again ?
[04:11] <AlexC_> Stickymaddness: cya
[04:11] <ravi> something with watch?
[04:11] <AlexC_> cron?
[04:11] <ravi> no, not scheduling
[04:12] <ravi> just want to see the output of one command at timed intervals
[04:12] <Taxman> ravi: up arrow in terminal?
[04:12] <ravi> timed intervals and automated, don't want the up arrow
[04:12] <AlexC_> ravi: cron then,
[04:12] <Taxman> sorry, that was a joke
[04:12] <unimatrix9> how would i convert an ogg video to avi?
[04:12] <unimatrix9> on the bash...
[04:12] <ravi> this is a very simple command, forgot it though. not cron.
[04:12] <AlexC_> ravi: setup a cron that would run a file that has like "ls > ls_out.txt"
[04:13] <srecko> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` says it cant find the package
[04:13] <ravi> anyone here know of a watch command?
[04:13] <stone123_> screensaver ceashed . and AlexC_ what did you say ?
[04:13] <unimatrix9> so theora to avi?
[04:13] <srecko> kernel is: 2.6.15-23-386
[04:13] <unimatrix9> how to
[04:13] <SanketMedhi> unimatrix9: you will have to use mencoder, see the mplayer manual for help
[04:13] <srecko> edited repositories
[04:13] <srecko> please help me
[04:13] <AlexC_> stone123_: don't think I said anything,
[04:13] <ravi> ?
[04:13] <stone123_> good mind your own bussines
[04:13] <seabag> srecko: what did you edit?
[04:14] <alex____> ravi: yep
[04:14] <AlexC_> stone123_: excuse me?
[04:14] <unimatrix9> i you know? mencoder name.ogg ...and then...
[04:14] <unimatrix9> ?
[04:14] <franco> lu
[04:14] <SanketMedhi> unimatrix9: I dunno the syntax sorry
[04:14] <srecko> seabag: just enabled all offered repositories
[04:14] <unimatrix9> ah
[04:14] <CreepyCrawly> AlexC_,  if some sources are timing out will it fsck up my apt-get ?
[04:14] <srecko> seabag: 'cause my network works now :P
[04:15] <AlexC_> CreepyCrawly: nope, it will just take a bit longer and you wont recieve updates from them
[04:15] <seabag> srecko: cool, and did you run update afterwards?
[04:15] <srecko> seabag: oh... let's try that, i did it before ... :P
[04:15] <CreepyCrawly> then i dont want them i just hope there is any kind of otp , cuz my bsd box uses otp :(
[04:15] <seabag> srecko:  yup, just type in "sudo apt-get update" into the terminal
[04:16] <srecko> thanks
[04:16] <Varsendaggr> hey how do i upgrade ubuntu with GUI?
[04:16] <seabag> srecko: sometimes you may have to run update twice just to iron out what it missed the first time
[04:16] <quaal> why does gparted say this drive has 183.2gb unused, and when I try to put things on it in nautilus, it only says it has 173.9gb
[04:16] <CoXP> hi
[04:16] <ravi> ah nvm everyone, what I need to do is watch -n 6 "beagle-info --status |grep Crawling" where 6 is the second interval and stuff in the quotes is my command that needs to repeated
[04:16] <srecko> seabag: thanks man =)
[04:16] <stone123_> srecko, sta je problem
[04:17] <CoXP> i need help
[04:17] <AlexC_> CoXP: ask away
[04:17] <srecko> stone123_: vise nista :)
[04:17] <CoXP> how can i get my wireless working in ubuntu
[04:17] <LadyNikon> CoXP: ask your question.
[04:17] <ravi> AlexC, you note that right?
[04:17] <Taxman> is booting from a USB drive that the BIOS doesn't see really that hard?
[04:17] <ravi> no need to involve cron on such a simple job
[04:17] <AlexC_> ravi: ahh nice, never knew about that
[04:18] <rickyfingers> dave: hey it's mi
[04:18] <CoXP> ive got wireless problems
[04:18] <seabag> CoxP: just plug it in and it will work 80% of the time.
[04:18] <CoXP> Nope
[04:18] <CoXP> i installed the driver and it shows as there but it aint showing up
[04:18] <srecko> seabag: umm, could you tell me how to install some packages from my ubuntu cd, if I can do that
[04:18] <alex____> ravi: true true
[04:18] <srecko> e.g. build-essential? :P
[04:19] <maisonefou_> atique
[04:19] <AlexC_> srecko: I don't think build-essentials is on the Ubuntu cd
[04:19] <srecko> cant run them when I click them, or run with terminal
[04:19] <seabag> CoXP: oh.... what doesn't wok?
[04:19] <ompaul> Rambo3, less of the nick spam please in a 1k+ channel thanks
[04:19] <CoXP> my wireless
[04:19] <Flare183> does anyone here have a broadcom wireless card?
[04:19] <CoXP> i can install the driver] 
[04:19] <rickyfingers> does anyone here know a good wireless nic to use with a laptop?
[04:19] <srecko> E:\pool\main\b\build-essential ?
[04:19] <CoXP> i have abroadcom card
[04:19] <dhorn> Hey, has anyone here used Herd 5?
[04:19] <seabag> srecko: you would install them the same way that you wouild install them off the internet... just make sure that the CD is not commented out on your repositories
[04:19] <AlexC_> srecko: ahh, maybe it is then
[04:19] <Rambo3> ompaul, do you have some auto script ??
[04:19] <Flare183> CoXP:>bcm4318?
[04:19] <AlexC_> dhorn: #ubuntu+1 please, as Fesity is under heavy development
[04:20] <dhorn> thx
[04:20] <gerro> rickyfingers: hmm people always talking about those prism ones I think
[04:20] <ompaul> Rambo3, no - but I do watch
[04:20] <seabag> coxp: Ok... umm, it's not my specialty, but I found that the program Network Manager helped me solve all of my problems
[04:20] <CoXP> can i download it ?
[04:20] <srecko> seabag: ok
[04:20] <seabag> coxp: you can get it from add-remove programs... and it runs in your task bar
[04:20] <Rambo3> ompaul, mmm ok screensaver crashed so my nick stayed in irc room for a while
[04:20] <seabag> lets you sort through which networks you're connecting to, etc. etc.
[04:20] <snaidis> Ubuntu doesn't recognuze my Mic
[04:21] <CoXP> does it need to connect to the net to download it
[04:21] <seabag> if that doesn't work...then all I know is that it's a problem with drivers, and you'l need NDIS-wrapper
[04:21] <ravi> seabag, what kind of laptop do you have?
[04:21] <Flare183> yes
[04:21] <snaidis> Ubuntu doesn't recognuze my Mic
[04:21] <Taxman> shouldn't there be some boot floppy that can handle USB?
[04:21] <AlexC_> !repeat | snaidis
[04:21] <ubotu> snaidis: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:21] <CoXP> Seabag .. thedrivers work in ndiswrapper
[04:21] <seabag> ravi: I used it on both a toshiba and an Averatec
[04:21] <CoXP> flare183.. how do i no what model the drivers are
[04:22] <Flare183> go to system, administration, networking
[04:22] <seabag> CoXP: No, you can install it off of the CD I believe
[04:22] <seabag> CoXP: not sure though
[04:22] <ravi> COXP: if you already have a notebook with these built in adapters, your best bet is to google for a guide that walks you through setting up ubuntu for your particular laptop
[04:22] <Flare183> or the device manager
[04:22] <Lunderhage> Is there anyone who knows about how to boot an ubuntu installation from a hdd which was connected through usb before, but on the ide interface now?
[04:22] <ravi> that way, you'll have everything from media buttons to power management taken care of.
[04:23] <CoXP> im on a prebuilt PC Ravi
[04:23] <CoXP> Flare it says BCM43xx
[04:23] <srecko> seabag: do I need complete path, or it looks in all directories ?
[04:23] <Flare183> i have a script that can make the bcm43xx wireless cards work
[04:23] <seabag> Ravi is right... the manuals are always more informative than what we can think up
[04:23] <Varsendaggr> hey how do i upgrade from dapper to edgy   easlily
[04:23] <Flare183> if anybody wants it
[04:23] <AlexC_> !upgrade | Varsendaggr
[04:23] <ubotu> Varsendaggr: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:23] <CoXP> flare ... can i have it plz LD
[04:23] <Flare183> yeh
[04:24] <CoXP> wanna send over msn
[04:24] <Flare183> sure
[04:24] <CoXP> add me
[04:24] <seabag> srecko: could you repeat the question... I'm getting confused between 3 conversations here... and I just woke up :(
[04:24] <CoXP> johnrandall51@hotmail.com
[04:24] <srecko> seabag: no problem. umm. do I have to write full path, or I can just type /pool/ and it looks in all subfolders? :)
[04:24] <CoXP> u got that flare
[04:25] <ompaul> acto, nick spam ever think to join the channel with the right nick?
[04:25] <wims> !gparted
[04:25] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:25] <srecko> seabag: didnt work when I addressed the file itself, as I remember, it said something like it cant find the file ... :\
[04:26] <ravi> !qtparted
[04:26] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[04:26] <seabag> srecko: hhhmmmm
[04:26] <ravi> holy crap, didn't know I could do that ! thing
[04:26] <srecko> seabag: ok, sorry for saying that, hope not confused you :)
[04:26] <fotoflo> what package is sendmail-msp part of? sendmail?
[04:26] <AlexC_> ravi: please send a PM to the message to do that
[04:26] <srecko> let me try again... :P
[04:26] <AlexC_> ravi: send a PM to the bot I mean
[04:26] <Zewey> woot, one SoC proposal written, 5 more to go :|
[04:27] <fotoflo> whoops, i uninstalled postfix and it removed my sendmail
[04:27] <AlexC_> ravi: or do !install > ravi to send it to you're self
[04:27] <seabag> srecko: you're addressing the file when you do what? update? or when you edit sources.lsit?
[04:27] <AlexC_> Zewey: is it too late to add projects to SoC ?
[04:27] <ravi> !qtparted > ravi
[04:27] <srecko> seabag: sorry, could you wait few seconds, please :\
[04:27] <ravi> !qtparted > ravi_
[04:27] <Zewey> AlexC_: I surely hope not :P
[04:28] <AlexC_> Zewey: hum ... I may see if I can get my content management system on there ... it's hard work creating a php cms to compete with the big ones single-handed!!
[04:28] <Zewey> AlexC_: but the later it gets the harder new proposals will impress... being near the end of the list and all
[04:28] <mcp_> Is feisty slower then edgy? I updated today and now everything is slower. Can i do something about that?
[04:29] <AlexC_> mcp_: you do understand Feisty is under heavy devlopment
[04:29] <ompaul> mcp_, go to #ubuntu+1 for fesity cheers
[04:29] <Zewey> AlexC_: sounds interesting :)
[04:29] <AlexC_> Zewey: should be when finished! I've just got the new php5 framework done for it, all I've gotta do now is code all the modules and plugins - hoping to release it late June 2007
[04:29] <Zewey> by the way... does anyone's network manager work in Feisty 2.6.20.11 yet?
[04:30] <ravi> anyone in here have a SLVR phone hooked up to Ubuntu?
[04:30] <AlexC_> #ubuntu+1 Zewey
[04:30] <srecko> seabag: when I try to install the .deb file from the cd
[04:30] <Zewey> AlexC_: oh thanks
[04:30] <seabag> srecko: Oh.... hmmm that's odd.   You are installing it through atp-get, right?
[04:30] <srecko> seabag: apt-get install /media...blabla/build-essential.deb I get the error: no package found
[04:30] <srecko> I use sudo too
[04:31] <ravi> srecko, aren't you supposed to use dpkg -i?
[04:31] <AlexC_> srecko: you'll have to do "dpkg -i /path/to.deb
[04:31] <AlexC_> srecko: and use sudo, so "sudo dpkg -i path/to/.deb"
[04:31] <The_Storm_N> hi all
[04:31] <AlexC_> morning,
[04:31] <The_Storm_N> I need some help
[04:31] <ravi> hi storm
[04:31] <srecko> AlexC_, thanks, and that does what? :P
[04:31] <The_Storm_N> I will install ubuntu server
[04:31] <poningru> The_Storm_N: no you dont
[04:32] <The_Storm_N> and I wonder witch version of ubuntu to choose
[04:32] <The_Storm_N> 6.10 or 6.06
[04:32] <ompaul> The_Storm_N, 6.10
[04:32] <seabag> srecko: ok... try just making sure that the CD is enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list ... then it will look at the CD if it can't get online
[04:32] <poningru> The_Storm_N: what kinda server is this going to be?
[04:32] <AlexC_> srecko: installs the file. Or you could just copy the .deb file off the CD and to you're home folder for example and double click it
[04:32] <poningru> ompaul: well he may want the lts
[04:32] <ravi> no real big differences for server
[04:32] <The_Storm_N> web server and game server
[04:32] <srecko> ok
[04:32] <jo1> check
[04:32] <poningru> The_Storm_N: personal use?
[04:32] <The_Storm_N> apache2, mysql5, php5, mail
[04:32] <seabag> srecko: or the dpkg method... there is a ton of documentation about that, it's a helpful ocmand to know
[04:33] <The_Storm_N> nope
[04:33] <AlexC_> The_Storm_N: 6.10 then
[04:33] <seabag> anyway, I gotta go :(
[04:33] <poningru> The_Storm_N: company server?
[04:33] <The_Storm_N> oki thanks
[04:33] <poningru> yeah got with 6.10
[04:33] <The_Storm_N> no its not commersial but it will be
[04:33] <The_Storm_N> if the distro is good
[04:33] <AlexC_> afaik, 6.06 doesn't have php5 in the reops
[04:33] <jo1> anybody care to help me with a quick simple problem?
[04:33] <mae_> where can i download something to read adobe illustrator files?
[04:33] <The_Storm_N> I need to proove the ubuntu have always the latest software
[04:33] <ompaul> AlexC_, that is to change as a security fix iirc
[04:33] <ravi> meh, I don't like Ubuntu as a server, stripped down debian is better in my opinion
[04:33] <The_Storm_N> I don't want apache 1.3 or php4
[04:34] <The_Storm_N> thats why I leave debian
[04:34] <ravi> ah
[04:34] <AlexC_> ompaul: oh really - wouldn't that cause a lot of problems though? As many php4 scripts that are OOP wont work in php5
[04:34] <predaeus> !ask | jo1
[04:34] <ubotu> jo1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:34] <dhorn> Hey all, what command do I use to access the sudo config file?
[04:34] <The_Storm_N> so 6.10, thanks guys :)
[04:34] <Flare183> this still sucks i can't make compiz work!
[04:34] <cables> dhorn, sudo visudo
[04:34] <poningru> The_Storm_N: go with 7.04 then
[04:34] <srecko> I get when copying it to desktop -> the utillity is not in your PATH
[04:34] <ravi> /etc/sudoers
[04:34] <AlexC_> The_Storm_N: you're welcome
[04:34] <dhorn> thanks
[04:34] <Sam__> I heard you could run your existing windows in linux but it required a lot of ram, how much
[04:34] <poningru> thats what all my servers run
[04:34] <cables> ravi, no way!
[04:34] <AlexC_> poningru: !!!!
[04:34] <cables> ravi, don't recommend that.
[04:35] <The_Storm_N> poningru where is 7.04 ?
[04:35] <ompaul> AlexC_, well we shall see what happens but I was reading something about it the other day let me see if I can get a url on same
[04:35] <poningru> AlexC_: yeah
[04:35] <AlexC_> poningru: do not reccomend 7.04 for production use!
[04:35] <poningru> The_Storm_N: yeah
[04:35] <The_Storm_N> I need some kind of secure too, I don't want testing software
[04:35] <ompaul> The_Storm_N, not release yet
[04:35] <jo1> thx predaeus.  how do you start the network tools configuration window with root privileges?
[04:35] <Flare183> compiz works on Fedora but not on ubuntu
[04:35] <cables> dhorn, use sudo visudo. It makes sure you won't end up with a broken sudoers file.
[04:35] <poningru> Sam__: 512MB is minimum
[04:35] <Flare183> does anybody know why?
[04:35] <poningru> Sam__: 768MB for most stuff, and a gig is recommended
[04:35] <AlexC_> poningru: we already have a large amount of users using Feisty because people have reccomended it and not known it's under development .... we don't need any more. 7.04 will break, wait untill it's released to reccomend it please,
[04:36] <cables> Sam__, you can, but you need as much ram as you want for both OS's combined
[04:36] <poningru> AlexC_: pish posh
[04:36] <predaeus> jo1, sudo network-admin
[04:36] <Sam__> poninguru: good at least I have min
[04:36] <jo1> thanks very much!
[04:36] <The_Storm_N> AlexC_ ok I will use 6.10, I belive that after 7.04 is officialy released I will be able to update via apt ?
[04:36] <_Jaak_> When i insert a dvd-video, ubuntu sees it as a recordable disc? Help?
[04:36] <Flare183> compiz works on Fedora but not on ubuntu
[04:36] <Flare183> does anybody know why?
[04:36] <AlexC_> The_Storm_N: yep, you should be able to upload from 6.10 to 7.04 easily, hopefully
[04:37] <AlexC_> s/upload/upgrade
[04:37] <The_Storm_N> ok thanks :)
[04:37] <ravi> _Jaak_ what happens when you try to play it?
[04:37] <The_Storm_N> you are the best support that I have seen
[04:37] <The_Storm_N> great people
[04:37] <jo1> actually, i meant the devices...  where you can change mtu, etc
[04:37] <quaal> why does gparted say this drive has 183.2gb unused, and when I try to put things on it in nautilus, it only says it has 173.9gb
[04:37] <quaal> ext3 partition
[04:37] <cables> quaal, maybe there's another partition besides your Ext3 partition?
[04:38] <gwylim> jo1, sudo gnome-nettool maybe?
[04:38] <jo1> i'll give it a shot.
[04:38] <ompaul> AlexC_, see the devel archives and the mail subject: PHP 4 will be removed from the archive shortly my Martin Pitt on 21 Feb 2007
[04:38] <quaal> cables: the only listing in gparted is the one ext3 partition i made?
[04:38] <shark-1> how can i upgrade to gnome 2.18
[04:38] <ompaul> AlexC_, s/my/by
[04:38] <cables> quaal, I'm not sure...
[04:38] <_Jaak_> ravi, can't the option is grey in totem
[04:38] <jester626> Good morning everyone
[04:38] <poningru> shark-1: best method is to use the development version of ubuntu
[04:38] <AlexC_> shark-1: it's not an easy task with a release based distro like Ubuntu. You'll have to wait untill 7.04 is released on April 19th
[04:39] <poningru> feisty 7.04
[04:39] <AlexC_> poningru: Please stop doing that
[04:39] <neo2dot0> hi, im getting messages about gdm crashing
[04:39] <poningru> what dude?
[04:39] <ravi> someone help _Jaak_ out, he has a problem with DVD movies being sensed as Recordable Media.
[04:39] <_Jaak_> ravi, on my laptop (also ubu) everything works fine
[04:39] <poningru> :p
[04:39] <alex____> jester626: gm
[04:39] <cables> poningru, quit recommending an unstable testing version that hasn't even hit beta yet.
[04:39] <shark-1> alright i can wait then prolly nothing extremely important
[04:39] <AlexC_> shark-1: Feisty, 7.04 is under heavy development ,please do _not_ take poningru advise and install it.
[04:40] <shark-1> AlexC_, i know been there done that just gonna wait it out
[04:40] <gerro> shark-1: unless you want to be a beta tester
[04:40] <poningru> _Jaak_: whatsup?
[04:40] <netsplit_> anyone have experiance getting dialup tow work with ubuntu 6.10?
[04:40] <ElbridgeGerry> _Jaak_: Do you have libdvdcss?
[04:40] <shark-1> the 64-bit cds dont seem to work
[04:40] <cables> netsplit_, no, but this may help, hold on a sec
[04:40] <cables> !dialup | netsplit_
[04:40] <ubotu> netsplit_: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[04:40] <Menasim1> is it ubuntu or Ubuntu?
[04:40] <shark-1> thank you everyone :)
[04:40] <_Jaak_> ElbridgeGerry, yes
[04:40] <jo1> ok friends...  anyone have any tips on setting up the DHCP server?  it keeps failing to restart
[04:40] <ElbridgeGerry> Menasim1: Ubuntu
[04:41] <AlexC_> poningru: why do you find it funny and ammusing to keep recommending 7.04 to people? Not wise at all. Please stop it.
[04:41] <ravi> Ubuntu
[04:41] <Desmaano> hi all
[04:41] <comosicus> how can i play wmv videos on ubuntu?
[04:41] <AlexC_> !wmv | comosicus
[04:41] <ubotu> comosicus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:41] <ravi> w32codecs
[04:41] <ElbridgeGerry> comosicus: What Ravi said. Go to Synaptic and install w32codecs
[04:41] <_Jaak_> pningru, my plextor dvd-rw works fine with data discs, but sees dvd-video as blank disks
[04:41] <poningru> _Jaak_: hmm
[04:42] <ravi> _Jaak_: what happens if you try to force mount
[04:42] <netsplit_> okies lemme check the link cables, but I think I already read that
[04:42] <Psychoman> hello all
[04:42] <AlexC_> hi
[04:42] <ElbridgeGerry> Hey.
[04:42] <Psychoman> :)
[04:42] <_Jaak_> ravi, it automounts...
[04:42] <comosicus> i installed them but.. when i play the video it`s all green...
[04:42] <netsplit_> no wait loaded, and it's new stuff, lemme look ty :)
[04:42] <cables> comosicus, try playing it with vlc
[04:42] <alex____> Psychoman: hi
[04:43] <comosicus> ok
[04:43] <AlexC_> _Jaak_: do you have another computer to confirm the disks are not actually black?
[04:43] <poningru> !vlc | comosicus
[04:43] <ubotu> comosicus: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:43] <alex____> _Jaak_: try to mount it manually
[04:43] <Psychoman> got a strange problem. after I updated apache it didn't start anymore. so I reeinstalled it (backed up my configuration) and it seems I lost my init.d script
[04:43] <alex____> AlexC_: s/black/blank/
[04:43] <Desmaano> Question: Does someone succesfully installed Ubuntu on a Apple Imac ?
[04:43] <_Jaak_> AlexC_, if i put the same dvdplayer in another pc (win os) it works fine with the same disk
[04:43] <Psychoman> shouldn't the init.d script be reinstalled with apt-get?
[04:44] <AlexC_> alex____: haha, woops
[04:44] <shark-1> AlexC_, do you know if after the release of feisty could i upgrade gnome on my edgy install because when feisty is released i dont wanna upgrade right away because it will still be new
[04:44] <ElbridgeGerry> Desmaano: Is it Intel or PowerPC?
[04:44] <_Jaak_> how do i mount it manually?
[04:44] <poningru> shark-1: you can compile and all that stuff right now if you want
[04:44] <poningru> but it would be pointless
[04:44] <AlexC_> shark-1: I honestly don't know, even though it's new it will still be stable and safe to use
[04:44] <Lunderhage> Does anyone know how to boot ubuntu, previous installed on hdd via usb from the ide interface? It waits for usb drive to come up. but it won't (of course).
[04:44] <Desmaano> a powerpc Gerry
[04:44] <alex____> Desmaano: havent tried it, maybe next month
[04:45] <jo1> no ideas on DHCP server, anyone?
[04:45] <Desmaano> well do you know how to boot from the cd mayby?
[04:45] <comosicus> !codecs comosicus
[04:45] <poningru> Lunderhage: take it out of the usb and put it in the computer?
[04:45] <Desmaano> press which buttons when starting up
[04:45] <poningru> jo1: hmm?
[04:45] <AlexC_> !codecs | comosicus
[04:45] <ubotu> comosicus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:45] <poningru> Desmaano: how old is you computer?
[04:45] <jo1> i can't seem to make the DHCP server work
[04:45] <comosicus> :)
[04:45] <jo1> rather it won't start
[04:45] <Desmaano> an old Imac g3 from '99
[04:46] <Lunderhage> poningru: Doesn't work. It waits for usb drive and times out.
[04:46] <ElbridgeGerry> Desmaano: If you're running OS X then press C starting up.
[04:46] <AlexC_> jo1: hold on,
[04:46] <poningru> jo1: you wanna run dhcp serveron ubuntu?
[04:46] <ElbridgeGerry> Desmaano: Be sure to use the PowerPC version of Ubuntu
[04:46] <AlexC_> jo1: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10
[04:46] <jo1> i think so :)
[04:46] <poningru> AlexC_: dont recommend that please
[04:46] <Desmaano> ElbridgeGerry: i know, i downloaded and burned the powerpc live cd from ubuntu
[04:46] <poningru> glaring security troubles
[04:46] <ravi> jol: why? explain your scenario?
[04:47] <AlexC_> poningru: very funny, now please grow up.
[04:47] <jo1> experimenting at the moment.
[04:47] <nhy> I'm having some problems compiling awn
[04:47] <poningru> AlexC_: no I am serious dude
[04:47] <Laibsch> I am trying to get my computer to support squashfs.  squashfs-tools is installed, but "cat /proc/filesystems|grep squash" still does not show anything.  Anybody got this working?
[04:47] <poningru> that thing has serious glaring security issues how they have you setup
[04:47] <jo1> i want my intel mac mini to talk to the ubuntu box with gigabit speed.  my POS gigabit switch doesnt support 9000k frames, so i want to take it out of the mix
[04:47] <poningru> unless you have a pretty good firewall setup
[04:48] <Desmaano> ElbridgeGerry: Thanks now i can boot from the cd.
[04:48] <locke> Can anyone help me, my external hard drive stopped automatically mounting for some reason, how do i fix it? =x
[04:48] <poningru> jo1: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/dhcp.html
[04:48] <ElbridgeGerry> Desmaano: No problem.
[04:48] <nhy> autogen.sh outputs shift: 347: can't shift that many
[04:48] <poningru> locke: what file system is it?
[04:48] <locke> ntfs
[04:48] <nhy> what does that mean?
[04:48] <poningru> !automount | locke
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <poningru> wth
[04:48] <jester626> I have been playing around with Ubuntu for a couple of days now and I like it very much. The only complaint I have is the amount of software available for linux. for instance for word processing I could use AbiWord, OpenOffice, KOffice, etc. I know the complaint is trivial, but does anyone know of a site that displays a concise list of software without giving me all the different alternatives?
[04:48] <ravi> hahah
[04:48] <CaBlGuY> if I get the latest distro of plain Ubuntu, are all the bugs and whatnot fixed on it.. IE firefox freezing and the like?
[04:49] <tbuss> im trying to set up a dual boot w/ ubuntu and xp. i have 2 internal hdd and one external (firewire) my 2 internal hdd are divided into three partitions. the partition i want to install to is 75 gig partition from a 120 gig hdd. when asked to mount / and swap i tried to use this partition but was not allowed, very confused
[04:49] <poningru> !mount | locke
[04:49] <ubotu> locke: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:49] <Flare183> anybody know how to open a .sea archive?
[04:49] <Lillen> Hello! Is it possible to change from Gnome to KDE without. An easy way?
[04:49] <nhy> yes
[04:49] <Lillen> How?
[04:49] <poningru> locke: follow the guide under !diskmounter
[04:49] <nhy> just install kde ;-)
[04:49] <CaBlGuY> Lillen just install the Gnome desktop...
[04:49] <Flare183> anybody know how to open a .sea archive?
[04:49] <CaBlGuY> !tell Lillen about Gnome
[04:49] <locke> I have diskmounter on my panel but it isn't showing up there anymore =x
[04:49] <Desmaano> btw, are there install cd's available without the live-part? so it immediatly starts installing without running from cd first ?
[04:49] <crdlb> Lillen, install kubuntu-desktop and choose the Kde session at login
[04:50] <Lillen> I want to install KDE desktop
[04:50] <nhy> what does "shift: 347: can't shift that many" mean?
[04:50] <alex____> jester626: U have 2 try each peace by yourself
[04:50] <nhy> its outputed by autogen
[04:50] <gpled> need a howto doc on getting my onboard sound working
[04:50] <crdlb> Lillen, you'll find "kubuntu-desktop" in synaptic
[04:50] <CaBlGuY> Lillen Ahh than just install KDE Im sorry.. use synaptic
[04:50] <tbuss> Desmaano: try the alternate cd
[04:50] <poningru> locke: hmm
[04:50] <ElbridgeGerry> jester626: Check "Applications > Add/Remove programs". That has a nice list of programs available
[04:50] <Desmaano> tbuss: thx i will look for them :)
[04:50] <shark-1> would anyone be williing to tutor me in themeing gnome?
[04:51] <Lillen> How do I install the KDE-desktop?
[04:51] <Flare183> !gnome | Lillen
[04:51] <ubotu> Lillen: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:51] <poningru> gaah
[04:51] <tbuss> Desmaano: ur welcome
[04:51] <locke> poningru: And I can't use console to mount it because I don't know what it's called =\
[04:51] <Flare183> !kde | Lillen
[04:51] <crdlb> Lillen, open synaptic and find the kubuntu-desktop package
[04:51] <ubotu> Lillen: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[04:51] <Lillen> thx
[04:51] <gpled> msg me if you know how
[04:51] <Flare183> welcome
[04:51] <ElbridgeGerry> Lillen: Or "sudo apt-get install kuubuntu-desktop"
[04:51] <jester626> I was afraid of that :)
[04:52] <shark-1> ElbridgeGerry, you dont wanna install that way
[04:52] <poningru> locke: most likely /dev/sdx where x is either a,b,c,d etc.
[04:52] <CaBlGuY> gpled what sound do you have?
[04:52] <ElbridgeGerry> shark-1: Oh, why?
[04:52] <poningru> who wanted to know about sea?
[04:52] <ElbridgeGerry> shark-1: Doesn't get the dependents?
[04:52] <shark-1> Lillen, do "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[04:52] <Desmaano> Ubuntu rocks :)
[04:52] <Lillen> oh I tried that, forgot the duoble "a" :/
[04:52] <Lillen> haha
[04:52] <shark-1> ElbridgeGerry, harder to remove later
[04:52] <valdi> what is the main difference... KDE vs Gnome?
[04:52] <AlexC_> jester626: but what would they choose to reccomend? Thats why Linux offers you so much choice, so you can choose
[04:52] <bb> Hi, I've just installed ardour (package). It doesn't work properly. Can't use all the menues. (Edit etc.)
[04:52] <fotoflo> whats argv in bash scripting?
[04:52] <gpled> CaBlGuY: not even sure. need to probe.  ubuntu did not find the device
[04:53] <wims> !bittorrent
[04:53] <locke> poningru:  all i have is sda up to 5 in my dev folder
[04:53] <ElbridgeGerry> valdi: KDE focuses on more configurability, GNOME on usability
[04:53] <shark-1> valdi its all preference they do basicly the same thing except the look is different
[04:53] <valdi> i have gnome... why would i want KDE
[04:53] <wims> stupid bot
[04:53] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[04:53] <poningru> locke: you sure thats not your usb drive?
[04:53] <jester626> I know, Choice is a good thing, but sometimes for someone who doesn't know, choice can be over whelming
[04:53] <valdi> ok
[04:53] <shark-1> GNOME is also simpler
[04:53] <poningru> do you have 5 partitions on your usb disk?
[04:53] <_Jaak_> Ok, the dvd-video does mount manually
[04:53] <shark-1> jester626, then go with gnome its easier and has less bugs
[04:53] <CaBlGuY> gpled then in that case, you need to go to your hardware venders website and see what sound you have.. and go from there.. you need to find out so u can get the correct package for it..
[04:54] <Desmaano> btw, can Ubuntu handle plug-and-play usb sticks ??
[04:54] <poningru> _Jaak_: whats probably happening is that the empty field is a partition and the video area is a partition
[04:54] <alex____> poningru: sda is also hard drive, dude
[04:54] <locke>  /dev/sda1   *           1       12853   103241691    7  HPFS/NTFS  /dev/sda2           12854       14495    13189365   83  Linux  /dev/sda3           14496       14569      594405    5  Extended  /dev/sda5           14496       14569      594373+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:54] <valdi> i like gnome... i think it is a great vacation from f****** windows
[04:54] <kazuka> !ask
[04:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:54] <ElbridgeGerry> valdi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE
[04:54] <Flare183> anybody know how to open a .sea archive?
[04:54] <gpled> CaBlGuY: no way with the computer to tell that?
[04:54] <shark-1> KDE is great but is still buggy for many things and by sticking with the default your less likely to get into trouble
[04:54] <poningru> Flare183: ...
[04:54] <ElbridgeGerry> valdi: If you're happy with GNOME, no need to switch
[04:54] <poningru> I asked you where you went...
[04:54] <valdi> ok
[04:54] <poningru> Flare183: http://sourceforge.net/projects/arc/
[04:54] <jester626> Gnome was my intention, but to decide on all the extra stuff. Like, CD Burning software, Office Application Suites, etc.
[04:54] <Varsendaggr> hey how do i get rymthm box to sync with my mp3 player?
[04:55] <_Jaak_> poningru, but the dvd plays on my labtop running ubu os
[04:55] <locke> poningru:  sda doesn't show up...but it says it's mounted, could that be the usb? but i don't see where i can access it then o0;
[04:55] <nhy> how can i check what version of a program I'm running from the command line
[04:55] <kazuka> anyone knows why vmware in ubuntu when booting windows gets stuck in starting up
[04:55] <kazuka> anyone knows why vmware in ubuntu when booting windows gets stuck in starting up?
[04:55] <nhy> i need to find out what version of automake i have installed
[04:55] <shark-1> once you get the feel for linux feel free to branch off and try things thats the greatness about linux lots of choices all free
[04:55] <CaBlGuY> gpled if you have the original packaging that your hardware came in yea,.. other than that.. just boot back into winblowz and it will tell you there (IF) you still have winblowz installed..
[04:55] <poningru> _Jaak_: you probably dont have dvdrw on laptop
[04:55] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[04:55] <_Jaak_> i do
[04:55] <poningru> _Jaak_: can you go to launchpad.net and file that as a bug then?
[04:55] <ravi> kazuka: because windows is crud
[04:55] <kazuka> hmm
[04:55] <_Jaak_> ok
[04:56] <comosicus> how can i see info on my video card
[04:56] <Varsendaggr> enlightenment is a \nother great DEsktop environment/shell
[04:56] <nhy> the only competition is between apple and linux
[04:56] <poningru> nhy: apt-cache show automake
[04:56] <nhy> thanks
[04:56] <ElbridgeGerry> nhy: And Microsoft's large cash reserves
[04:56] <ravi> kazuka: ok, fine, what messages do you see on that start up?
[04:56] <Varsendaggr> nhy, that is so true
[04:56] <kazuka> the virtual windows under ubuntu host wont start
[04:56] <poningru> comosicus: lspci -v
[04:56] <ElbridgeGerry> I use Mac OS X _and_ Ubuntu
[04:56] <poningru> comosicus: lspci with its various flags
[04:56] <comosicus> thanks
[04:56] <ravi> kazuka: any more info?
[04:56] <CaBlGuY> ElbridgeGerry yea.. lots o cash....
[04:56] <poningru> comosicus: man lspci
[04:56] <Xteven> hello, I wonder if standard ubuntu allows me to encrypt my homedirectory ? and does ubuntu have some way to integrate the subversion filesystem into it's GUI ?
[04:56] <netsplit_> well I can dialout okay with kpp, and checking networking it's auto configuring the dns okay but nothing can find a server when I dialout
[04:56] <CaBlGuY> dang Micro$haft..
[04:56] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:57] <nhy> I have a mac but I'm beggining to switch to linux anyways ;-)
[04:57] <shark-1> anyone know the best way to learn to theme from the ground up
[04:57] <kazuka> ravi: when i choose windows to but on grub under the ubuntu host it get stuck on the part that says starting up....
[04:57] <CaBlGuY> good 4 u nhy
[04:57] <Flare183> thx
[04:57] <ravi> ok guys, put aside your microsoft bash sticks for a second and help the man out
[04:57] <gpled> it is strange lspci does not see it
[04:57] <Desmaano> Question: Can Ubuntu handle plug-and-play usb sticks ??
[04:57] <poningru> Flare183: its in the repository
[04:57] <ravi> man==man/woman
[04:57] <tbuss> is it possible to install ubuntu to a logical partition?
[04:57] <poningru> apt-get install arc
[04:57] <ElbridgeGerry> Desmaano: It handles mine
[04:57] <ElbridgeGerry> tbuss: I did
[04:57] <Bsims> Desmaano: ya mean thumbdrives?
[04:57] <poningru> tbuss: ofcourse
[04:57] <Desmaano> yes
[04:57] <Flare183> yeah i know thanks
[04:58] <Bsims> Desmaano: It does and better than windows
[04:58] <ravi> kazuka: why do you have grub on a virtual machine?
[04:58] <Desmaano> awesome :)
[04:58] <tbuss> im in the middle of a install....cant seem to get the partition right?
[04:58] <valdi> should i upgrade to Feisty beta or should i stick with 6.10 until realease of feisty?
[04:58] <shark-1> valdi
[04:58] <shark-1> valdi, dont upgrade
[04:58] <poningru> valdi: depends on what kinda crazy you are
[04:58] <_Jaak_> oh well mythtv does play it
[04:58] <valdi> hehe ok
[04:58] <Lunderhage> I managed to solve my boot problem. Just change the root drive in grub before booting.
[04:59] <AlexC_> valdi: it's not even beta yet, if you like things breaking and want to help report bugs - go ahead,
[04:59] <Psychoman> bye all :-)
[04:59] <Bsims> ya feed it a webcast and it records the radio stream and makes mp3s from it
[04:59] <predaeus> shark-1, http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html is for Metacity window border themes. GTK2(?) is for buttons, etc.
[04:59] <tbuss> trying to install ubuntu to a 75GB logical partition, on a 130 gb hdd the second of 2 internall hardrives
[04:59] <AlexC_> bye] 
[04:59] <valdi> i think ill wait :)
[04:59] <ikonia> why do people constantly ask if they should upgrade to alpha software
[04:59] <Bsims> ikonia: because its bleeding edge and cool...
[04:59] <valdi> to get an answer
[04:59] <ElbridgeGerry> ikonia: Because they want to help?
[04:59] <ikonia> its not though
[04:59] <Bsims> I used to run Sid on Debian
[04:59] <ikonia> ElbridgeGerry: I doubt that
[05:00] <predaeus> shark-1, thats for gnome
[05:00] <AlexC_> ikonia: I have no idea. I think it's because of the amazing bright and in-your-face banner on the forums ... it's causing more damage than good!
[05:00] <tbuss> the internal hdd are divided into three partitions. C D and F
[05:00] <Bsims> Just because I wanted the newest and to help by reporting bugs
[05:00] <ElbridgeGerry> ikonia: I've been tossing around installing the latest Fiesty alpha
[05:00] <tbuss> D and F are the smae drive trying to install to F but will not let me
[05:00] <ikonia> AlexC_: is that the one that says "Fesity is alpha - its not ready for production use"
[05:00] <shark-1> predaeus, yea but i am looking for someone to walk me through some of it is there a channel anywhere on irc where i can get some help
[05:00] <kazuka> ravi: i am trying to but the installed version of windows that i have
[05:00] <AlexC_> Bsims: yes but debians 'expiremental' is everyone else's stable lol
[05:00] <Bsims> AlexC_: Heh true dat
[05:00] <AlexC_> ikonia: yes .. but people ignore that sentence
[05:01] <nhy> why is automake1.10 more recent than automake1.9?
[05:01] <kazuka> ravi: I have windows and ubuntu installed on a single machine
[05:01] <kazuka> ravi: I have grub as a boot loader
[05:01] <AlexC_> nhy: 9 is lower than 10
[05:01] <predaeus> shark-1, I do not know about such a channel. Sorry.
[05:01] <ikonia> nhy: because 1.10 is a bigger number than 1.09
[05:01] <ravi> kazuka: ok, but you said something about vmware?
[05:01] <Desmaano> some other question: what kind of irc clients you people use? It's hard to follow all th lines with mIRC
[05:01] <nhy> o
[05:01] <nhy> kk
[05:01] <shark-1> predaeus, thanks for your help its appreciated
[05:01] <nhy> thanks
[05:01] <kazuka> ravi: yes i wanted vmware in ubuntu to boot my installed version of windows
[05:01] <ravi> kazuka: so which one, windows or ubuntu, is the host machine?
[05:01] <Bsims> Desmaano: I use irssi myself, though Xchat is quite nice
[05:02] <ravi> kazuka: ok, thanks for making that clear
[05:02] <AlexC_> Desmaano: you're using mIRC on Ubuntu :S ... mad. I use xChat personally
[05:02] <kazuka> ravi: ubuntu is the host machine
[05:02] <ElbridgeGerry> Desmaano: mIRC?
[05:02] <tbuss> when asked to select a root and swap mount points is it illigal to choose the same partition?
[05:02] <shark-1> :X mIRC?! OH NO!!!
[05:02] <ravi> kazuka: did you read about the fact that you could do this some place?
[05:02] <kazuka> ravi: any ideas
[05:02] <Desmaano> yes thats what i think
[05:02] <valdi> is there anywhere i can download preinstalled images of ubuntu... (someone installs ubuntu, configures it, takes an image of it and posts on the web)
[05:02] <AlexC_> tbuss: yes you have the same ... infact I don't think it will let you
[05:02] <ElbridgeGerry> Desmaano: Do you use Firefox?
[05:03] <Desmaano> yes i do
[05:03] <Bsims> valdi: for vmware?
[05:03] <kazuka> ravi: no i havent read it
[05:03] <ElbridgeGerry> Desmaano: Check out ChatZilla
[05:03] <alex____> irssi ruleZZZZZ
[05:03] <nhy> from where can I install dbus-glib-1
[05:03] <art2k2> can anyone recommend a good usenet newsreader?
[05:03] <Desmaano> ok thx i'll have a look
[05:03] <wng_z3r0> hello, I am new to linux. I want to install linux to my 4 gig thumb drive. Is ubuntu a good distro for this?
[05:03] <kazuka> ravi: any ideas?
[05:03] <Bsims> art2k2: slrn and pan
[05:03] <Desmaano> mirc is really messed-up to follow a conversation
[05:04] <tbuss> AlexC_ thank you, im trying to install to a second hard drive that has two partitions, im trying to figure out how to install ubuntu without affecting the data on the other half of the hdd
[05:04] <chetu> alguien habla espaol?
[05:04] <Bsims> pan would be my choice for GUI newsreader
[05:04] <art2k2> Bsims: thanks I'll try them out
[05:04] <ravi> kazuka: you're pretty much out of luck, you will not be able to boot a windows instance that is on your hard drive with vmware and have it be recognized as another windows instance in vmware.
[05:04] <ikonia> wng_z3r0: yes, just be aware that ubuntu isn't portable and isn't designed to be swapped amongst computers once installed
[05:04] <_joey_> minimal ubuntu with gui is needed. what install would recommend?
[05:04] <AlexC_> !es | chetu
[05:04] <ubotu> chetu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:04] <wng_z3r0> ok
[05:04] <chetu> hola alex
[05:04] <chetu> buenas tardes
[05:04] <wng_z3r0> so would something like a liveCD word best?
[05:04] <AlexC_> !es | chetu
[05:04] <ikonia> _joey_: either server and add X or desktop and remove what you don't want
[05:04] <ikonia> wng_z3r0: yes
[05:05] <wng_z3r0> what liveCD's are there? knoppix is the only one I know of
[05:05] <_joey_> ikonia sorry?
[05:05] <ravi> kazuka: http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[05:05] <_joey_> I am new
[05:05] <ikonia> wng_z3r0: ubuntu
[05:05] <ravi> kazuka: check that documentation
[05:05] <_joey_> ikonia I need minimal image
[05:05] <ikonia> _joey_: either do a server install and add Xorg - or do a desktop install and remove the apps you don't want
[05:05] <Steve^> I just followed the instructions on installed mysql to my apache server on ubuntuguide, but I get this error when trying to log into phpmyadmin:   "#2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)"   Ideas?
[05:05] <shark-1> wng_z3r0, you could put ubuntu live cd on a flash drive and run it from there
[05:05] <wng_z3r0> I would be using the liveCD for troubleshooting windows boxes as well as for learning linux
[05:05] <_joey_> okay
[05:05] <fabiim> my pdflatex is saying that i don't have inpuntenc.sty installed , but i do have it ( /usr/share/texmf-tetex/base/    ) . what's wrong ?
[05:05] <alex____> wng_z3r0: try slax - its small and nice
[05:05] <_joey_> ikonia is there network install?
[05:05] <wng_z3r0> which liveCD would be the best for that
[05:06] <ikonia> wng_z3r0: the livecd won't do much to help you troubleshoot windows
[05:06] <ikonia> _joey_: no
[05:06] <wng_z3r0> I thought linux had ntfs support
[05:06] <nhy> will most programs for debian (specifically dbus-glib-1) run on ubuntu?
[05:06] <wng_z3r0> I already have a BartPE cd
[05:06] <_joey_> so smallest will be 700Mb image?
[05:06] <ikonia> wng_z3r0: it does
[05:06] <ikonia> _joey_: check the server install
[05:06] <shark-1> nhy, yes ubuntu based on debian
[05:06] <_joey_> where?
[05:06] <ikonia> nhy: no
[05:06] <gpled> CaBlGuY: found it with dmesg - CS4235
[05:06] <alex____> ikonia: fuck me running... i allways use livecd to recover the crappy ms thing
[05:06] <ikonia> _joey_: the ubunt.com site
[05:06] <shark-1> ikonia, no?
[05:07] <ikonia> alex____: no need for the language
[05:07] <locke> Does it log the last installed updates?
[05:07] <ikonia> shark-1: no what ?
[05:07] <wng_z3r0> thanks all
[05:07] <ikonia> !ohmy |  alex____
[05:07] <ubotu> alex____: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:07] <nhy> so will adding the debian repos and installing some software mess things up or not?
[05:07] <shark-1> ikonia, most debian programs wont work on ubuntu?
[05:07] <ikonia> shark-1: they are built for a different OS
[05:07] <ikonia> nhy: probably
[05:08] <shark-1> ikonia, yes but isnt ubuntu based on debian
[05:08] <nhy> but isn't ubuntu based on debian
[05:08] <shark-1> ikonia, nevermind its the arch
[05:08] <ikonia> based on is not "the same"
[05:08] <ElbridgeGerry> Hm, most .deb's have worked fine for me
[05:08] <alex____> ikonia: kk
[05:08] <ElbridgeGerry> In fact, I've never had a .deb that didn't work
[05:08] <nhy> how risky is it
[05:08] <tbuss> okay well i installed ubuntu on my second hard drive.......lost all data on the other partition. Lost everything, good thing i backed-up.
[05:08] <ikonia> ElbridgeGerry: I suppose it depends on the versions and what the want to do
[05:08] <ElbridgeGerry> Most programs have a "Debian/Ubuntu" install option
[05:08] <shark-1> nhy, if the deb doesnt work i am almost positive you can compile it
[05:08] <ikonia> nhy: variable ElbridgeGerry has had no problems, I've seen tons
[05:09] <locke> Does ubuntu log updates?
[05:09] <Flare183> anybody have Fedora?
[05:09] <ikonia> locke: yes
[05:09] <ikonia> Flare183: yes
[05:09] <locke> Where?
[05:09] <nhy> does anyone know about dbus-glib-1
[05:09] <ikonia> nhy: what about it
[05:09] <nhy> will that work on ubuntu
[05:09] <Flare183> ikonia:>well does the net work?
[05:09] <nhy> i found it in the debian repos
[05:09] <ikonia> nhy: why do you want that - ubuntu has dbus already
[05:09] <ikonia> Flare183: yes
[05:09] <crdlb> nhy, you already should have it
[05:09] <nhy> it does?
[05:09] <ikonia> yes
[05:09] <crdlb> nhy, and you *absolutely* don
[05:10] <Flare183> ikonia:>got a broadcom wirless card that works with Fedora
[05:10] <ikonia> nhy: and the fact that you don't know that suggests you shouldn't be playing with stuff you don't know about
[05:10] <crdlb> nhy, dont want to replace dbus
[05:10] <ikonia> Flare183: this isn't fedora support
[05:10] <nhy> i'm being told that i need to install it as a dependency
[05:10] <ikonia> nhy: what are you installing
[05:10] <Flare183> i know but i can't compiz to work with ubuntu
[05:10] <ikonia> Flare183: so ?
[05:10] <nhy> i'm trying to build awn
[05:10] <crdlb> nhy, there's a repo
[05:10] <locke> ikonia: where does it log the latest updates installed, i need to find the last 6 to uninstall them to figure out why my hard drive won't mount
[05:10] <crdlb> for ubuntu
[05:10] <ikonia> nhy: from source or a source deb
[05:10] <nhy> source
[05:10] <Flare183> and i coudnt' get fedora to connect to the net with my wireless card
[05:11] <tbuss> need help with eclipse get this error on startup testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...not found
[05:11] <crdlb> nhy, let me find the repository link
[05:11] <ikonia> Flare183: this it NOT fedora support
[05:11] <nhy> powerpc
[05:11] <Flare183> not asking that
[05:11] <Flare183> just i need some help with COMPIZ!!!!
[05:11] <crdlb> nhy, http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/Ubuntu+Edgy+Repository
[05:11] <nhy> i get an error when using autogen.sh that "checking for AWN... configure: error: Package requirements ( glib-2.0 gobject-2.0 gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0 libwnck-1.0 gnome-desktop-2.0 libgnome-2.0 gnome-vfs-2.0 gconf-2.0 x11 xproto dbus-glib-1) were not met:
[05:11] <nhy> No package 'dbus-glib-1' found
[05:11] <nhy> "
[05:11] <AlexC_> !paste | nhy
[05:11] <ubotu> nhy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:11] <nhy> sorry
[05:11] <Flare183> metacity is really geting on my nerves
[05:11] <ikonia> nhy ahhhhh pkg_config
[05:11] <nhy> i know what pastebin is
[05:11] <alex____> tbuss: in debian just update-alternatives, but what in ubuntu?
[05:12] <crdlb> Flare183, #ubuntu-effects for compiz help on ubuntu
[05:12] <jester626> What would Ubuntu's equivelent to M$ Active Directory?
[05:12] <yipe> is anyone else getting this warning about ancient software when they run gtk-gnutella?
[05:12] <nhy> i got to go somewhere
[05:12] <ikonia> jester626: linux uses ldap
[05:12] <yipe> what's up with that?
[05:12] <crdlb> yipe, yep
[05:12] <nhy> I'll be back
[05:12] <ElbridgeGerry> Wow, I'm looking at IRC logs from September 11, 2001.
[05:12] <crdlb> nhy, go here: http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/Ubuntu+Edgy+Repository
[05:12] <crdlb> just use that
[05:12] <jester626> Kool, thanks, I'll research that, is it very difficult to set up?
[05:12] <ElbridgeGerry> Whoops, meant to say that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:13] <ikonia> jester626: not really
[05:13] <jester626> thanx
[05:13] <rasmus> as a newbe in ubuntu i'm having problems with easy ubuntu, any body who could take some time to help me??
[05:13] <hdxx> yes
[05:13] <gwylim> yipe, yes
[05:13] <Steve^> I've installed all the mysql stuff, apache, php, but I can't get to my mysql server.. isn't there something to test mysql is actually there?
[05:14] <ikonia> rasmus: whats up
[05:14] <gwylim> yipe, I think you need a newer version
[05:14] <shark-1> who here has been using linux for a long time?
[05:14] <Stu_2> hello.  How does one figure out which tty# belongs to the serial port?
[05:14] <ikonia> Steve^: mysql is the client command
[05:14] <Steve^> ikonia, ok, that doesn't work
[05:14] <ikonia> shark-1: I've used it a while
[05:14] <alex____> Steve^: ps aux|grep mysqld
[05:14] <Flare183> no answer
[05:15] <yipe> gwylim, then why doesn't someone put one in the repos?
[05:15] <ikonia> Flare183: so wait
[05:15] <shark-1> ikonia, you might find this funny - warning mild language - http://nanocrew.net/2005/10/03/despair-linux/
[05:15] <Steve^> alex____, that gave a result
[05:15] <ikonia> Flare183: someone will answer
[05:15] <Flare183> ok
[05:15] <ikonia> just not in here
[05:15] <kazuka> anyone beta testing fiesty fawn?
[05:15] <gwylim> yipe, maybe enable universe?
[05:15] <LjL> !fesity > kazuka    (kazuka, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:15] <ikonia> kazuka: fesity support/chat is in #ubuntu+1
[05:15] <alex____> Steve^: what result ?
[05:15] <alex____> Steve^: past it here
[05:15] <Steve^> steve     8969  0.0  0.0   2800   752 pts/1    R+   16:14   0:00 grep mysqld
[05:15] <ikonia> alex____: its probably just not started
[05:15] <kazuka> thanks
[05:16] <ikonia> Steve^: start up mysql server
[05:16] <alex____> ikonia:  ic
[05:16] <Steve^> where is it?
[05:16] <yipe> it should be enabled already
[05:16] <ikonia> Steve^: use the init script - it should be started at install time
[05:16] <tbuss> ramus there is a lot of knowledge in this forum unfortunately it will not be share with others unless the powers that be have come to the conclusion that you are worthy
[05:16] <Desmaano> is it normal my desktop cd with ubuntu is allready 1 hour busy with starting up on my imac 333Mhz :(
[05:16] <Steve^> I followed this:   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_MYSQL_for_Apache_HTTP_Server
[05:17] <Steve^> So everything should be installed
[05:17] <gwylim> yipe, I have 0.96.4 (unstable) and it works
[05:17] <arkanes> looking for a utilty that can show available wirefi networks, perhaps save & configure profiles for them, any syggestions?
[05:17] <ikonia> how can people not follow the official ubuntu docs
[05:17] <alex____> Desmaano: how much RAM?
[05:17] <ikonia> Steve^: you just need to "apt-get install mysql-server"
[05:17] <tbuss> arkanes are speaking of a network manager?
[05:17] <Desmaano> i think 128 MB
[05:17] <ikonia> Steve^: no guide needed, or use synaptic to find the packages
[05:17] <arkanes> tbuss: sure
[05:17] <N3WB> Can ubuntu run .rpm files?
[05:18] <crdlb> !alien
[05:18] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:18] <tuxhelfer> hiho
[05:18] <alex____> Desmaano: try xubuntu
[05:18] <ikonia> N3WB: I strongly advise against using it
[05:18] <eeyore_> #banshee
[05:18] <clearzen> N3WB: no, but you can make a .deb using alien
[05:18] <yipe> ah-ha! I found the culprit, I looked under synaptic and apparently I was only getting security updates... I wonder when this got all mucked up?
[05:18] <clearzen> N3WB: a .deb out of a rpm
[05:18] <guille> hi
[05:18] <N3WB> ok wont use them then
[05:18] <Desmaano> less Ram needed?
[05:18] <ikonia> N3WB: I strongly advise against doing anything with any rpm's on an ubuntu system
[05:18] <tbuss> arkanes look at wifi-tools or there is a network manager you can install for gnome
[05:18] <rasmus> first of all the easy ubuntu tells me that it can't verifi the public key.
[05:18] <will``> hi, i want to install ubuntu on drives connected to a Silicon Image 3132 controller, but when I boot from the DVD, it doesn't see them. I assume that's because the kernel on the dvd doesn't have the driver built in. Any suggestions on how I should proceed?
[05:19] <yipe> oh wow! There's a LOT of stuff that needs updating!
[05:19] <arkanes> tbuss: I'm not showing a wifi-tools package, do you know the name of the GNOME manager?
[05:20] <alex____> Desmaano: yes
[05:20] <tbuss> arkanes it might be network-manager
[05:20] <cosmo_> is there a way to find out what the bus ID is for my video card?
[05:20] <ikonia> lspci
[05:20] <Desmaano> IF i will upgrade in the future to 512 MB ram, will it to the trick ?
[05:20] <Desmaano> do*
[05:20] <arkanes> tbuss: the gnome network-manager doesn't support wifi networks
[05:20] <yipe> thanks for making me think to look at my repos gwylim
[05:20] <Steve^> ikonia, thanks, but why doesn't the guide say that? :/
[05:20] <tbuss> arkanes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[05:21] <ikonia> Steve^: poor guide
[05:21] <gwylim> yipe, yeah that will be quite a lot to dowload
[05:21] <gwylim> download*
[05:21] <JamesDS> hi
[05:21] <alex____> Desmaano: maybe yes, but the best thing is upgrading the whole computer
[05:21] <rapha> Hi all!
[05:22] <JamesDS> there's like a million people on here!
[05:22] <JamesDS> :-o
[05:22] <Desmaano> i know upgrading is the best, but yeah buying a ubersystem is too :P
[05:22] <rapha> What would be the best software to bring into order a COMPLETELY unsorted bunch of MP3 and OGG files (a couple thousand) without having to spend years on the task?
[05:22] <francois> !limewire
[05:22] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:23] <JamesDS> is anyone able to help me with a wireless connection?
[05:23] <Desmaano> an other simple question, the multiple desktops in ubuntu where can i set how many i want ?
[05:23] <rapha> Desmaano: right-click em
[05:23] <b00gz> JamesDS what chipset is on the wireless card?
[05:23] <clearzen> JamesDS: I probably can
[05:23] <alex____> Desmaano: no need for uber... i run my duron 1,2 with 512MB with ease
[05:23] <Desmaano> how easy :P
[05:23] <locke> Is there a way to rollback packages without completely uninstalling them?
[05:23] <JamesDS> I got the driver working, I think, because the button lights up Broadcom 4318 (the problematic one...)
[05:23] <comosicus> wmv still won't play.. my video card is ati rage mobility... when  i play the files i see only squares and lots of greeb
[05:23] <rapha> Desmaano: ain't it? :-)
[05:23] <comosicus> green
[05:24] <clearzen> JamesDS: what type of card is it?
[05:24] <JamesDS> Broadcom
[05:24] <gwylim> JamesDS, I have that too.
[05:24] <JamesDS> 4318 airforce 1
[05:24] <rapha> Hey c'mon boys... nobody here ever had to sort their music collection?!
[05:24] <codecaine> anybody know a program to stream videos to xbox 360 like windows media player?
[05:24] <draggie> hello
[05:24] <JamesDS> cool - does it work?
[05:24] <gwylim> Yes.
[05:24] <Desmaano> well it is so easy but when everything is so new .... well where to start ? yes i know irc #ubuntu :P
[05:24] <gwylim> I am using ndiswrapper.
[05:24] <clearzen> JamesDS: does it show up when you type iwconfig in the terminal?
[05:24] <JamesDS> yes, and the button lights up
[05:24] <alex____> codecaine: icecast?
[05:24] <JamesDS> I can also see other networks
[05:25] <JamesDS> but I can't connect to any, even when I totally unsecured mine
[05:25] <draggie> ive got a bit of a problem....got no idea how to fix it...anyone here with some time to help_
[05:25] <comosicus> ok
[05:25] <waxyfresh> frostwire slows my computer down alot,is thier a p2p thats less memory sucking?
[05:25] <clearzen> JamesDS: Have you tryed assigning it a static ip?
[05:26] <alex____> !ask | draggie
[05:26] <b00gz> waxyfresh bittorrent ;)
[05:26] <ubotu> draggie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:26] <Hybernate> l o ppl i was woundering i just installed ubuntu ver 6.10 and cant change resolution to 1400x900 do i have to uppgrade my graphic driver?
[05:26] <nirm> ktorrent is good
[05:26] <JamesDS> well, no - the DCHP works in winXP
[05:26] <draggie> ha, computer froze....now i cant boot
[05:26] <comosicus> i have installed w32codecs and i have mplayer and vlc player also installed but.. wmv files still won`t play... can anyone help?
[05:26] <draggie> running on a live cd rigt now
[05:26] <JamesDS> do you think it can't get an IP address?
[05:26] <draggie> i can mount my linux partition
[05:26] <clearzen> JamesDS: just for the purpose of troubleshooting you should assign it a static ip and see if it connects
[05:26] <draggie> yet, grub is nowhere to be found
[05:26] <clearzen> JamesDS: Then you can narrow down your problem
[05:27] <JamesDS> ok, thanks - I'll try that.  Any ideas if that doesn't work?
[05:27] <eeyore_> Hybernate: probably not. you probably need to edit xorg.conf by hand
[05:27] <draggie> any cheesy easy way to restore grub_
[05:27] <clearzen> JamesDS:did you use ndiswrapper for the driver?
[05:27] <waxyfresh> nirm: will kde apps work without teh kubuntu-desktop installed?
[05:27] <JamesDS> yes, the GTK front end
[05:27] <shark-1> waxyfresh, yes
[05:27] <nirm> yes
[05:28] <JamesDS> it seemed to work because the wifi button lights
[05:28] <clearzen> I would suggest removing and reinstalling the driver if a static ip dosen't work
[05:28] <JamesDS> and I can scan and see wifi access points
[05:28] <Hybernate> eeyore : thx il try that could that also be the reason eaven the chatt here laggs like "(#/( ?
[05:28] <waxyfresh> is there a key logger in the repos?
[05:28] <JamesDS> ok, that seems sensible
[05:28] <JamesDS> thanks for your help!
[05:28] <eeyore_> Hybernate: no, it shouldn't be. what's your video card?
[05:28] <ravi> foxit reader, how to install in Ubuntu?
[05:28] <arkanes> tbuss: thanks, that was exactly what I wanted
[05:28] <b00gz> JamesDS may want to even find a different driver and try it, I know with my wifi card they OEM drivers didn't work but newer drivers on the OEMs site did
[05:29] <alex____> draggie: google for    grub restore ubuntu
[05:29] <eeyore_> Hybernate: do you have direct rendering running? it might be slow because you don't. type glxinfo|grep direct
[05:29] <JamesDS> ok, I'l keep that in mind if I have further problems, ty
[05:29] <clearzen> JamesDS: better yet look for a open source solution if there is one. They are always more stable in my experience than using ndiswrapper
[05:29] <rapha> How to sort A CRAPPY MP3 COLLECTION?
[05:29] <draggie> thankx alex____
[05:29] <draggie> im on it right now
[05:29] <Desmaano> rapha : delete them
[05:29] <JamesDS> open source solution...such as?
[05:29] <nirm> rapha: amarok
[05:29] <rapha> pft
[05:29] <Desmaano> :P
[05:29] <rapha> thx nirm
[05:29] <gwylim> JamesDS, I believe I also got my drivers from the internet for the 4318
[05:29] <comosicus> i have installed w32codecs and i have mplayer and vlc player also installed but.. wmv files still won`t play... can anyone help?
[05:29] <ravi> rapha: listen music player
[05:29] <JamesDS> ok
[05:29] <rapha> thx ravi
[05:29] <clearzen> JamesDS: not sure. I would have to google your chipset. I haven't used that card myself
[05:30] <Desmaano> btw, who has a carpc here ?
[05:30] <ravi> rapha: that'll just be sudo apt-get install listen
[05:30] <JamesDS> ok.  just one more easy question, where is the GRUB loadup file - I need to edit it!
[05:30] <jakoblaursen> Need help: Wireless, WPA ralink rt2500
[05:30] <ravi> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:30] <JamesDS> cheers!  bye all, thanks for your help
[05:30] <rapha> ravi: as a matter of fact I have it installed already ... just never used it :-)
[05:30] <JamesDS> might be back...
[05:30] <waxyfresh> is there a key logger in the repos?
[05:31] <ikonia> don't think so
[05:31] <mymachinethinks> hello can anyone help me with info on SoC2k7?
[05:31] <ikonia> mymachinethinks: no idea what that is
[05:31] <bcnspain2> Hi! Quick help needed: fast way to install nVidia propietary drivers? I downloaded them from nvidia.com, but as I cannot disable xwindows, I cannot install them
[05:31] <mymachinethinks> try the envy program
[05:31] <mymachinethinks> bcnspain2, try the envy program
[05:32] <ikonia> bcnspain2: don't get the drivers from nvidia.com
[05:32] <Hyper-cool> If i installed ubuntu to a primary partition and then convert it to a logical partition is everything screwed?
[05:32] <Hybernate> eeyore: i have a atimobility 1800
[05:32] <ravi> yeah, I've been using linux for a while now (years) and I still don't know how to get ATI Radeon 9200 drivers working
[05:32] <waxyfresh> is there something more like frostwire/mule/gnutella thefor a replaementa base from the apps gui?e dablt of frostwire?like with a searcha
[05:32] <nirm> bcnspain2: You can use Automatix2 to install Nvidia drivers
[05:32] <ikonia> !nvidia >bcnspain2
[05:32] <alex____> mymachinethinks: what project?
[05:32] <ikonia> bcnspain2: don't use automatix
[05:32] <jakoblaursen> Need help on setting up wireless
[05:32] <vignesh> Hey..
[05:32] <ikonia> nirm: not good to recommend automatrix
[05:32] <nirm> ikonia: oops
[05:32] <mymachinethinks> alex____, I am actually think of doing the remote desktop project
[05:33] <ravi> automatix < apt
[05:33] <eeyore_> Hybernate: well you might have to install the proprietary drivers for an ati card. i'm not sure how it goes because i have an intel card
[05:33] <gu1> how do i disable my trackpad?
[05:33] <ikonia> !ati >hybernate
[05:33] <Hyper-cool> If i installed ubuntu to a primary partition and then convert it to a logical partition is everything screwed?
[05:33] <waxyfresh> is there something more like frostwire/mule/gnutella then the torrent stuff like one with a searchable database rigght from the apps gui?
[05:33] <Desmaano> brb guys
[05:33] <JAyRULE> i want to be able to print through ubuntu 6.06 lts server from a windows and mac os x computer.  do i just install cupsys*, or do i have to install a samba server as well?
[05:33] <bcnspain2> I should not use nvidia.com drivers? I don't mind they are propietary, I just find them better. I did in the past with automatix, but I though Ubuntu was going to support nvidia propietary drivers in next 7 release
[05:33] <Hybernate> ubuntu > ybernate
[05:33] <ikonia> bcnspain2: no - ubuntu has a set in the repo's
[05:33] <vignesh> I downloaded the standalone flash player for linux.. and downloaded a video from youtube using video downloader extension for firefox.. But I am not able to play it.. I even renamed it to .flv
[05:34] <alex____> mymachinethinks: trying to make some bugfixes to rdesktop or write something similar to krdc or mstscl ?
[05:34] <ikonia> !nvidia >bcnspain2
[05:34] <ikonia> bcnspain2: read the pm ubotu sent you
[05:34] <gu1> i want to just use a usb mouse
[05:34] <LjL> bcnspain2, ubuntu *already* offers the proprietary nvidia drivers. you just have to install them. and not from nvidia.com or using automatix, just from the *normal official repositories*
[05:34] <LjL> !nvidia > bcnspain2    (bcnspain2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:34] <jo1> can anyone recommend a channel for TCP IP questions?
[05:34] <ikonia> bcnspain2: that contains a guide on how to install them
[05:34] <ravi> vignesh, try playing it in media players like vlc, mplayer
[05:34] <ravi> it probably will work
[05:34] <locke> How can I rollback to the last version of the packages I had?
[05:34] <gc> hi, what's a good shop in NY in terms of hardware prices?
[05:35] <ravi> gc: newegg :-)
[05:35] <mymachinethinks> alex____, something like krdc OK using SSH
[05:35] <clearzen> waxyfresh:umm I use torrentflux but that is a little different from your average torrent program. You can set it up to make it very easy to search a lot of different sources.
[05:35] <gc> ravi: do they have a shop?
[05:35] <ikonia> gc  this is ubuntu support - not pricerunner.com
[05:35] <locke> staples? compusa?
[05:35] <bcnspain2> apt yesss, the bot just gave me the links with more info to read. I will do so right now.
[05:35] <vignesh> ravi, does vlc  support flash ?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> !offtopic
[05:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:35] <LjL> vignesh: no
[05:35] <jakoblaursen> Need help: Wireless vetwork
[05:35] <ravi> gc: nope, not in NY
[05:35] <overrider> i would like to have a higher resolution when using alt+f* to go to the console. how to do please? thanks
[05:35] <gu1> i want to disable the builtin trackpad and only use an external usb mouse. does anyone know how to do that?
[05:36] <yousifnet> Hi guys, Quick question... What makes Ubuntu a better distro than Fedora?
[05:36] <alex____> waxyfresh: amule emule ?
[05:36] <vignesh> what player can I use to play flash files ?
[05:36] <b00gz> jakoblaursen: whats going on?
[05:36] <gc> ravi: thanks
[05:36] <waxyfresh> anyone have experiance setting up via drivers?ive tried switching vesa to via in xorg but no luck
[05:36] <locke> Is there any way I can rollback to the last version of the packages I had? The new updates I got stopped my hard drive from mounting...
[05:36] <ravi> vignesh, yep
[05:36] <thoreauputic> gu1: on my iBook I just plug the usb mouse in and it works
[05:36] <ravi> vignesh, vlc supports flash movies
[05:36] <waxyfresh> !torrentflux
[05:36] <ubotu> torrentflux: web based, feature-rich BitTorrent download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 410 kB, installed size 2688 kB
[05:36] <ikonia> locke:  I suspect its something you did as you have a lot of problems that others don't
[05:36] <stickymaddness> Hi guys, got my ubuntu working!! :D
[05:36] <jakoblaursen> b00gz: I don't know how to set up my wireless network... I'm a newbee
[05:37] <mister_roboto> can anyone recommend a good program for extracting non-text elements from a pdf file?
[05:37] <alex____> mymachinethinks: ok, so will it be for gnome or kde?
[05:37] <b00gz> jakoblaursen: Wireless Card on your computer or you Wireless Router or what?  Please explain a little more.
[05:37] <ikonia> mister_roboto: pdf's are "locked"
[05:37] <locke> ikonia: It did show up at first but wouldn't mount, said something about pmount...then I unmounted it, and it hasn't shown up since =x
[05:37] <JAyRULE> how do i enable a printer that is attached to ubuntu 6.06 lts server pc. i want to print through that pc from a windows pc, all of which is part of my lan. do i install cupsys*, or do i have to install samba as well?
[05:37] <clearzen> waxyfresh: I had to setup via drivers for my laptop. I used the drivers from the openchrome project personally but I don't know if they would work for you
[05:37] <mister_roboto> ikonia: not all of them are
[05:37] <jakoblaursen> b00gz: Wireless on computer.
[05:37] <mymachinethinks> alex____, gnome but hoping to make it work for the whole ubuntu family
[05:37] <waxyfresh> clearzen: thanks ill check it out
[05:37] <b00gz> jakoblaursen: what type of card is it?
[05:37] <mymachinethinks> alex____, you think it could be done in the three month period?
[05:37] <mister_roboto> ikonia: i'm talking about pdfs with no security enabled
[05:37] <ikonia> locke: I suspect its something you've done more
[05:37] <jakoblaursen> b00gz: Ralink rt2500
[05:37] <ikonia> mister_roboto: I see
[05:38] <jakoblaursen> b00gz: There is WPA encryption on the wireless
[05:38] <thoreauputic> JAyRULE: I think you can use cups - there's a wiki page about printing from windows IIRC
[05:38] <jakoblaursen> b00gz: router
[05:38] <alex____> mymachinethinks: well, im not good at coding stuff, but i think the best think is to make some bugfixes to rdesktop
[05:38] <JAyRULE> thoreauputic: IIRC?
[05:38] <mister_roboto> ikonia: i found programs to get text out, and to see various statistics about them. but i haven't seen anything to get, say, sound or graphics from the document
[05:38] <b00gz> jakoblaursen: Check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78250
[05:38] <thoreauputic> JAyRULE: if I remember correctly
[05:38] <ikonia> mister_roboto: no idea, I just normally read pdf's
[05:39] <alex____> mymachinethinks: there are a lot od guis but no properly working backend
[05:39] <JAyRULE> thoreauputic whats iirc
[05:39] <tier`> if i remember correctly
[05:39] <mymachinethinks> alex____, you mean?
[05:39] <Desmaano> wb :)
[05:39] <JAyRULE> oh
[05:39] <JAyRULE> haha
[05:39] <JAyRULE> okay
[05:39] <locke> ikonia:  my flash drive mounts fine though =\
[05:39] <ikonia> locke: so ?
[05:39] <JAyRULE> k thanks thoreauputic
[05:39] <JAyRULE> brb
[05:39] <vignesh> ravi: ok.. let me try
[05:39] <locke> so why won't my external :(
[05:39] <corevette> Everytime I go to "localhost" I get some random .phtml file....whats wrong?
[05:40] <overrider> anyone how to get a nice high console resolution?
[05:40] <waxyfresh> JackInTheGreen: airsnort/aircrack
[05:40] <ikonia> locke: no idea, as I said I suspect its something you've broke as you've had a lot of problems that others don't
[05:40] <tier`> anyone familiar with setting up sound? all i get is static with anything i try to play. lspci lists my card and i have all the codecs installed that im aware of so... im stumped. how can i go about checking to make sure the drivers are properly loaded for my card?
[05:40] <shark-1> what is the program to view GTK styles and it displays all the button types and scrollbars
[05:40] <alex____> mymachinethinks: rdesktop has some problems with keyboard mappings
[05:40] <waxyfresh> tier`: are you on a laptop?
[05:40] <waxyfresh> anyone have experiance setting up via drivers?ive tried switching vesa to via in xorg but no luck
[05:40] <shark-1> !twf
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <waxyfresh> anyone use the openchrome drivers?
[05:41] <vox754> waxyfresh, are you on laptop. there are some chipsets not supported by via, I think.
[05:41] <marbug> hmm, I have a question about Amarok,last.fm: my username and password is correct, but he won't send my tracks to last.fm, and before when I was on windows He always sended it, and those are the same trecks, what is wrong with it? :s
[05:41] <waxyfresh> vox754: yup
[05:41] <tier`> waxyfresh: nope. a desktop. have a turtle beach santacruz card.
[05:41] <b00gz> jakoblaursen: Hope that works for you be back in a few...
[05:41] <vox754> waxyfresh, read "man via" and see.
[05:41] <ThaNerd> the #proftpd channel is dead... anyone into helping me setting up some basic ftp server? (basically something to let me upload files to my /var/www)
[05:41] <waxyfresh> vox754: ive had it working once
[05:42] <waxyfresh> vox754: dont know what i did though
[05:42] <mymachinethinks> alex____, I'm checking it out
[05:42] <ikonia> ThaNerd: there is a guide on the forums and wiki
[05:42] <Desmaano> wow what a releave from mirc using chatzilla :)
[05:42] <clearzen> waxyfresh: do you know how to compile source? via is supposed to be supported out of the box in ubuntu however if you have problems you will have to build the drivers from source.
[05:42] <ThaNerd> ikonia: i spent last 3 hours on the official docs, and i think i know lesser now than before...
[05:43] <ikonia> ThaNerd: check the ubuntu wiki and forums - it has a guide
[05:43] <shark-1> how can i run this package gtk2-ex-formfactory-perl
[05:43] <ThaNerd> ikonia: URL ?
[05:43] <vox754> waxyfresh, Well, I just did what you said: edited "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" so vesa would read via, restarted the X server and that's it for me. I have K8M800 integrated to the motherboard, PC
[05:43] <ikonia> ThaNerd: not got it to had
[05:43] <ikonia> hand
[05:44] <mymachinethinks> alex____, so rdesktop is a program that helps connect to a windows machine through a linux machine and vice versa?
[05:45] <jakoblaursen> b00gz: Sorry, but I don't know what to do with that link, you gave me. I can see the question, but I can't see the solution...
[05:45] <waxyfresh> vox754: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[05:45] <clearzen> waxyfresh: You need the openchrome drivers
[05:45] <waxyfresh> vox754: is that what you have?
[05:45] <waxyfresh> ok
[05:45] <ThaNerd> ikonia: i googled it... but the guide only talks about anonymous access setup...
[05:45] <clearzen> waxyfresh: I would suggest getting the svn source and building it
[05:45] <vox754> waxyfresh, Yes, S3 Unichrome Pro IGP.
[05:45] <ikonia> ThaNerd: I told you - its the ubuntu forums and wiki
[05:46] <tier`> ok, so lspci lists: Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]   for my sound card.. now how do i see if it's actually working =P
[05:46] <tier`> cuz i dont think it is heheh
[05:46] <clearzen> waxyfresh: sudo aptitude install build-essential subversion checkinstall
[05:46] <cosmo_> is there a command to find the moniter identifier for my second moniter? or can the identifyer be set to whatever I want to put in there?
[05:46] <Desmaano> how many space does a ubuntu install need ? like 1 GB ?
[05:46] <RxDx> does anyone here had install iPodLinux on a IpodNano?
[05:46] <clearzen> waxyfresh: to get started
[05:46] <ravishankar> I'm trying to set up my microphone of skype,I can hear my voice on the speakers, but i can't record anything. Am i missing something?
[05:46] <bastiaan> #ubuntu-nl
[05:46] <mymachinethinks> alex____, oh sorry the vice versa thingy doesnt work
[05:46] <ThaNerd> ikonia: ok :(
[05:47] <mrebola> Hola seores .
[05:47] <mrebola> buenos dias :D
[05:47] <vignesh> ravi: vlc plays flash movies... thanks mate..
[05:47] <alex____> mymachinethinks: best vice versa is putty :D
[05:48] <jakoblaursen> Can anyone guide me through getting my wireless card to work on ubuntu?
[05:48] <lukemack> hi. i am missing the 1920 x 1200 resolution in ubuntu 6.10. I have an ATI radeon 9600. anyone know how to configure this?
[05:48] <ubuntu__> hey
[05:48] <jrib> !wireless | jakoblaursen
[05:48] <ubotu> jakoblaursen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:49] <jrib> !fixres | lukemack
[05:49] <ubotu> lukemack: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:49] <mymachinethinks> alex____, so I should look to build something with the best of both
[05:49] <mymachinethinks> alex____, and have to build anyway from stratch
[05:50] <alex____> mymachinethinks: why from scratch?
[05:50] <lukemack> jrib: 915 resolution didnt work for me
[05:50] <mymachinethinks> alex____, because the other way round is also required.... or did I miss something
[05:51] <jrib> lukemack: that makes sense since 915resolution is for intel cards
[05:51] <alex____> mymachinethinks: i think people dont need to have grafical connection to linux machine
[05:51] <alex____> mymachinethinks: everything can be done through ssh
[05:52] <alex____> mymachinethinks: but im sure they need better rdesktop
[05:52] <mymachinethinks> alex____, I was look at building something like the windows remote login
[05:52] <comosicus> can anyone look on http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/2049 and please tell what problem i have?
[05:52] <ubuntu__> yes
[05:52] <mymachinethinks> alex____, and i think graphical interface is required for normal people
[05:53] <ravi> alex___, graphical connections can be done through SSH with SSH -X
[05:53] <locke> yay, i fixed it :)
[05:53] <||drake||> anyone know if XGI has any drivers for Linux?
[05:53] <ravi> this way, you can login to the box, open panels, programs, etc.
[05:53] <locke> ikonia: rolling back the drivers worked like a charm ;)
[05:53] <locke> packages*
[05:53] <alex____> ravi: but not on dialup
[05:54] <||drake||> i want to install Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 5160, but it has an XGI video card, which seems to be unsupported by the liveCD
[05:54] <alex____> mymachinethinks: d u know freenx?
[05:54] <ravi> alex____ yes, but rdesktop or vnc won't work well on dial up either
[05:54] <mymachinethinks> alex____, no?
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> comosicus:  If you do "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" as root ('sudo -i' to get a root promt, then enter that, then 'exit'), and then run mplayer, does it work?
[05:54] <clearzen>  alex____: you can use -C option for compression as well with ssh forwarding
[05:54] <albacker> how do i upack .iso-s in CommandLine ?
[05:54] <mymachinethinks> alex____, though I just googled it and looks exciting
[05:54] <mymachinethinks> alex____, you know stuff about it?
[05:55] <ravi> yeah, ssh is more efficient for graphics than vnc or rdesktop
[05:55] <comosicus> i`ll try
[05:55] <ravi> this is if you have linux client trying to connect to the ubuntu box or Windows box with cygwin and X11 forwarding enabled
[05:55] <alex____> mymachinethinks: i dont know much
[05:56] <mymachinethinks> does anyone?
[05:56] <clearzen>  mymachinethinks: I've used it but I perfer X over ssh whenever it is a option
[05:56] <jrib> mymachinethinks: does anyone what?
[05:56] <bulmer> i know a lilttle bit about it, am testing it right now
[05:56] <albacker> how to unpack isos in COMMAND LINE ? anyone ?
[05:56] <clearzen>  mymachinethinks: It is easier to use
[05:57] <mymachinethinks> jrib, artifact of a conversation with alex____  :-)
[05:57] <bulmer> you can get into their test site and have a NX access to test
[05:57] <ravi> mymachinethinks: here is the best howto for Freenix: http://biohackery.com/node/38
[05:57] <mymachinethinks> ravi, thanks so much check it out
[05:57] <mymachinethinks> ravi, checking I meant
[05:57] <comosicus> tonyyarusso: it still doesn`t work
[05:57] <comosicus> the same error
[05:57] <pumpkinhead> what is the command to lower runlevel pls?
[05:57] <bulmer> telinit
[05:57] <pumpkinhead> ty
[05:58] <alex____> albacker: google for      mount iso loop
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> comosicus: does other sound work?
[05:58] <comosicus> yes
[05:58] <jester626> anyone have experience with postfix on Ubuntu?
[05:58] <clearzen> pumpkinhead: does anyone know why the run levels are different in ubuntu?
[05:58] <comosicus> i can play avi files
[05:58] <comosicus> but no wmv
[05:58] <albacker> alex____, hmm kk.
[05:58] <ravi> mymachinethinks: and here is a Breezy howto, it should be applicable to whatever Ubuntu you are running though: http://www.snakeoillabs.com/2005/10/27/freenx-on-ubuntu-breezy-howto/
[05:58] <bulmer> mymachinethinks: you want to try their site with me and compare notes?
[05:58] <pumpkinhead> no sorry. is 3 low enough to exit x server?
[05:58] <pnkmrgrta> I need help!  I tried to get beryl to work and accidentally broke my system.  Now only the command line works.
[05:59] <mymachinethinks> bulmer, which one? freenx?
[05:59] <ravi> comosicus: have you installed w32codecs?
[05:59] <waxyfresh> clearzen: done now what?
[05:59] <comosicus> yes
[05:59] <clearzen> pumpkinhead: no in ubuntu 3 is default I believe. 1 is single user which will kill gdm
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> comosicus: Try doing it in gxine or VLC instead.  WMV version 9 is iffy, iirc.
[05:59] <comosicus> and vlc
[05:59] <ompaul> pumpkinhead, no does not work that way on debian based systems just do /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:59] <bulmer> mymachinethinks: yes
[05:59] <comosicus> i tryed it with vlc too
[05:59] <albacker> im impressed how # of ubuntus users has increased
[06:00] <comosicus> still won`t play
[06:00] <pumpkinhead> ok ty much
[06:00] <ompaul> pumpkinhead, to make it full time use "rcconf" in a terminal or
[06:00] <moonboy33> I have a problem with ACPI and Edgy Eft x64 Edition
[06:00] <mymachinethinks> bulmer, OK sure..... :-)
[06:00] <ravi> comosicus: tried several different wmv files?
[06:00] <jrib> clearzen, pumpkinhead: 2 is default runlevel on ubuntu
[06:00] <clearzen> waxyfresh: sudo modprobe <name.of.driver>.ko
[06:00] <Ufftata> sds
[06:00] <comosicus> tonyyarusso: look at pastebin at line 27
[06:00] <jester626> when setting up postfix it asks me which type of configuration I want. Internet site is the default but this will not be a internet style mail system. I want to set up an internal mail system for network users only. Any thoughts?
[06:00] <pumpkinhead> need to restart x server that is the plan...
[06:00] <Darkkish> is PACMAN in here?
[06:00] <comosicus> yes i tried over 10 files
[06:00] <ravi> use the freaking users list Dark
[06:00] <bulmer> mymachinethinks: okay here what you should do, download the nxclient 1st
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> comosicus: Try looking on ubuntuforums.org for info on your card
[06:00] <alex____> albacker: me2
[06:00] <ompaul> pumpkinhead, install bum in a gui -- to restart it very simple /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:00] <waxyfresh> clearzen: the name would be via right?
[06:00] <clearzen> jrib: Do you know why it's 2 and not 5?
[06:00] <comosicus> ok
[06:01] <comosicus> i`ll try
[06:01] <jrib> clearzen: because that's how debian does it
[06:01] <mymachinethinks> bulmer, yep
[06:01] <Cyrus25801> how do i view a .chm file
[06:01] <pnkmrgrta> is there someone that could possibly help me get the gui working again?  I've been all over the forums and I can't figure out what to do.
[06:01] <bulmer> mymachinethinks: yep what? you're done downloading?
[06:01] <lukemack> jrib: i tried running the configuration script again - no change
[06:01] <clearzen> waxyfresh: I think so it's been a while....if you built it from source it should automaticly install it when you run sudo make install I believe
[06:01] <jrib> clearzen: runlevels 2-5 are identical
[06:01] <vox754> Cyrus25801, a compiled HTML from Windows?
[06:01] <gxr1> hi how to i put read write permission to a folder and all its subfolders/files for all users ... i've been searching the net and did'nt understand chmod
[06:02] <gxr1> plz help
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> Cyrus25801: sudo aptitude install xchm for one option of viewer.
[06:02] <ph_617> how do i get voice on this channel?
[06:02] <jrib> lukemack: did you select the resolution you wanted?
[06:02] <clearzen> waxyfresh: Then all you do is change vesa to via and restart
[06:02] <jrib> ph_617: it's not moderated
[06:02] <Cyrus25801> tonyyarusso: cool thanx
[06:02] <moonboy33> does somebody know why ubuntu (Edgy Eft x64) crashes everytime i close my laptops lid?
[06:02] <clearzen> waxyfresh: gdm that is
[06:02] <lukemack> jrib - i did
[06:02] <mymachinethinks> bulmer, there's xen3 and gnbd wondering which one
[06:02] <ferronica> How to install new theme Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[06:02] <Flare183> ok all still I haven't gotten compiz to work on edgy
[06:02] <ravi> I think I am going to go build a free alternative to sftpdrive
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> !themes | ferronica
[06:02] <ubotu> ferronica: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:02] <Flare183> can anybody help here
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> !changethemes | ferronica
[06:03] <ubotu> ferronica: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:03] <bulmer> mymachinethinks: nxclient is the name
[06:03] <alex____> moonboy33: xorg crash or kernel panic?
[06:03] <lukemack> jrib - how can i tell what driver is actually being used?
[06:03] <moonboy33> dunno, it just freezes
[06:03] <jrib> lukemack: in xorg.conf, look for the section about your video card
[06:03] <moonboy33> can't even switch to the terminal
[06:03] <ferronica> tonyyarusso: not the default included themes in ubuntu
[06:04] <ferronica> tonyyarusso: from site
[06:04] <gxr1> my apache gives me 403 restricted error please tell me how to put full r/w permissions to a folder for all users?
[06:04] <jrib> k, just make sure windows doesn't use all of it
[06:04] <moonboy33> i think it's a x64 problem
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> ferronica: download and then follow the instructions ubotu just said
[06:04] <pumpkinhead> ok ty ompaul
[06:04] <alex____> moonboy33: what model of noteb?
[06:04] <moonboy33> HP NX7400
[06:04] <ompaul> pumpkinhead, you are welcome
[06:04] <bulmer> I am watching a youtube video on a remote freenx server ..not bad
[06:05] <bulmer> its in italy and im in california
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> gxr1: r/w, or just r?
[06:05] <ph_617> my ubuntu connects via eth0 to linksys router via dhcp
[06:05] <ph_617> anyone know why i see repeated arp messages asking for router's mac?
[06:05] <mymachinethinks> alex____, can't figure
[06:05] <gxr1> tonyyarusso: full read write execute
[06:05] <roachclit> Hehy guys I am getting an error when I try and play .wmv files, it talks about a codexs
[06:05] <mymachinethinks> alex____, how do you do it
[06:06] <Hybernate> can any one link the ati install how to agiin plz i messed it upp cant find it
[06:06] <cosmo_> on a desktop PC if I comment out the wacom stuff will it hurt it?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> gxr1: eep...  Well, the way to do it would be sudo chmod -R a+rwx /path/to/folder, but I wouldn't do that on a web-accessible dir.
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> cosmo_: should be safe
[06:06] <moonboy33> no
[06:06] <roachclit> Hey guys I am getting an error when I try and play .wmv files, it talks about a codexs
[06:06] <ineedhelp> Anyone know how to fix ubuntu after a failed attempt at using beryl?  Now I can only use my computer in terminal mode.
[06:06] <bulmer> ph_617: rarp/arp thingy are rebroadcasted not only sent once
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> !wmv | roachclit
[06:06] <ubotu> roachclit: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:07] <jrib> ineedhelp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  possibly
[06:07] <ph_617> thx bulmer, we have a coworker who tries to mitm us, i am learning to randomize mac etc etc
[06:07] <Valandil> join #ubuntu-fr
[06:07] <razzzz> clear
[06:08] <lukemack> jrib - i restarted gdm and now have a blank screen - how can i get back to a 'clean' ati driver sintall?
[06:08] <james296> is it at all possible to do a simple right click on the hard drive icon and view how much space is used and freed up like in Windows?
[06:09] <bulmer> james296: much easier type  df -h
[06:09] <jrib> lukemack: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  then do whatever you did before to enable the ati driver
[06:09] <james296> well I want to know if what I said is possible instead of gettin all the unknown crap...
[06:09] <JAyRULE> thoreauputic: okay so where is this print wiki?
[06:09] <razzzz> UBUNTU ROCKZZ
[06:09] <razzzz> best linux till now
[06:09] <jrib> lukemack: if you make sure you choose the right ati driver when you run that command I *think* it should work, but I've never used an ati card
[06:10] <JAyRULE> doh! hes gone
[06:10] <alex____> moonboy33: d u have usb keyboard?
[06:10] <mailow> hi
[06:10] <moonboy33> im working on the internal laptop keyboard
[06:11] <bullgard4> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8415/ shows that Ubuntu compiled two Ethernet modules in my kernel. I am surprised because in Debian Etch they could not co-exist on my computer. Could this fact be the cause that Ubuntu does not bring up the Ethernet after Suspend-to-Ram?
[06:11] <moonboy33> i have 1, but i don't use it
[06:11] <alex____> moonboy33: ok ok
[06:11] <bulmer> james296: they are not crap, something you need to absorb and learn, these are good info
[06:12] <ineedhelp> jrib:  That didn't work I'm still getting the same problem it wont start.
[06:12] <jakoblaursen> Help: I've tried the documentation but can't make my wireless card work. Please help me
[06:12] <LegolasV> Anyone knows what I can expect if update my sources.list and upgrade to Feisty? (Is it stable enough? I've got some experience with Linux)
[06:12] <jrib> ineedhelp: paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:12] <alex____> moonboy33: so your display worsk fine but inter mouse and inter keys cant work... am i right?
[06:12] <jrib> !paste | ineedhelp
[06:12] <ubotu> ineedhelp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:12] <waxyfresh> i just did an instal on another computer but everything on the screen is like x5times biggerthen it should be
[06:12] <Hyper-cool> so partition magic has crashed will resizing a linux partition... but i can still hear the hard drive doing r/w operations...... should i just let it sit and maybe it's working behind the scenes?
[06:13] <moonboy33> after the crash, mouse is not working, nor keyboard -> screen is active but frozen
[06:13] <vleon> im confused i have an rt61 wlan and yet ubuntu loads another module, there is an rt61 module in ubuntu, when i try to load it with insmod it tells me that there is already -1 or something like that
[06:13] <bullgard4> LegolasV: 'stable enough' depends on your requirements. For me, it is stable.
[06:13] <moonboy33> it's propably an acpi related prob.
[06:13] <Kilroo> vers.] 
[06:13] <waxyfresh> i have a usb HD set up on my compjter and want to share it with another computer that i share a dsl modem with is this possible?
[06:13] <alex____> moonboy33: its kernel problem... it remove mouse and keyboard driver
[06:14] <waxyfresh> i just did an instal on another computer but everything on the screen is like x5times biggerthen it should be
[06:14] <jakoblaursen> WLAN help needed
[06:14] <ineedhelp> how can I paste that from the terminal?  I've used pastebin before but I don't know how to just paste it from the terminal cause thats all I can do on the computer I'm trying to fix.
[06:14] <moonboy33> but the screens frozen too
[06:14] <jrib> ineedhelp: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | netcat jrib.dyndns.org 1234
[06:15] <moonboy33> i forgot the mention that it also crashes, when i adjust the brightness
[06:15] <alex____> moonboy33: how do you know, that screen is frozen? is the picture messed up?
[06:15] <waxyfresh> is there a key logger in the repos?
[06:15] <moonboy33> time's not changing
[06:15] <wims> I formated my windows partition among other things and now it wont be mounted when i boot. Other ntfs partitions i have get automatically mounted. Is this somehow related to the UUID variable in fstab? If so what exactly is the UUID variable?
[06:15] <LegolasV> bullgard4: what does i require from the user?
[06:15] <LegolasV> it*
[06:15] <moonboy33> movies&music are frozen
[06:16] <moonboy33> thats why i think that its acpi related
[06:16] <jakoblaursen> I need help: Wireless network - already tried documentation - didn't work
[06:16] <bullgard4> LegolasV: I do not understand your question. Say it in other words.
[06:16] <rickyfingers> can anyone here recommend a link to something about how to install real player plug in for firefox?
[06:16] <clearzen> wims: Is the drive that is not being mounted listed in your fstab file at all?
[06:16] <proog> is 915resolution included in ubuntu 6.10 (out-of-the-box)?
[06:16] <alex____> moonboy33: maybe
[06:16] <Yuzzy> anyone in here?
[06:17] <waxyfresh> noone is
[06:17] <moonboy33> when i start with "noacpi" it gives me the following error: Soft LLockup on CPU#0
[06:17] <Arkkis> Hey, how can I change the locale/language of my time/date (the one visible in the tray) but not change the whole system language? I mean, I'd like to see finnish dates (and start my weeks on mondays, etc), but use the rest of the system in english.
[06:17] <wims> clearzen,  yeah
[06:17] <Yuzzy> i need help...!!!
[06:17] <joincamp> Yuzzy: ask away
[06:17] <ineedhelp> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10916/
[06:17] <foutrelis> Yuzzy: What's your problem?
[06:17] <waxyfresh> Yuzzy: whats the problem?
[06:17] <clearzen> wims:  could you paste a copy of you fstab so I could look at it?
[06:17] <brynk> hi, ik just got my bluetooth headset to work, but it only stays connected for a few minutes, can anyone help me out?
[06:17] <moonboy33> proog: no, its not
[06:17] <jakoblaursen> I need help...!
[06:17] <jrib> Arkkis: at the login screen, press "options" in the corner.  I think that will affect locale as well as language
[06:17] <joincamp> !anyone | Yuzzy
[06:17] <ubotu> Yuzzy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:18] <proog> moonboy33: is it available through apt?
[06:18] <moonboy33> yes
[06:18] <moonboy33> i think
[06:18] <jrib> ineedhelp: disable framebuffer
[06:18] <LegolasV> bullgard4: I mean, if I upgrade can I expect to have fix a lot of things or will it be just some small things? (also, I'm running the KDE edition)
[06:18] <wims> clearzen, http://pastebin.ca/400343
[06:18] <Yuzzy> i'm pretty new to linux (ubuntu) ... new in a matter of hours...LOL and i've downloaded xdvdshrink (whish is a.rpm file)... where do i extract this in order to run it?
[06:18] <waxyfresh> jrib: he dosent want to change the setting globaly just on the tiaffect everything?me,wontthat
[06:18] <waxyfresh> jrib: he dosent want to change the setting globaly just on the time,wont that effect everything?
[06:18] <ineedhelp> jrib: what's the command? i'm somewhat terminal inept
[06:18] <moonboy33> proog: yes it is
[06:19] <Bsims> Quick question has anyone used a widescreen lcd, I am currently running 1095xwhatever on a 20" crt
[06:19] <proog> moonboy33: ok, thanks
[06:19] <N3WB> Yuzzy: .rpm is for Red Hat, .deb is for Debora and Ubuntu :p
[06:19] <Arkkis> waxyfresh, I think it does, console in finnish... urgh
[06:19] <jrib> waxyfresh: yes, you are right.  I misread your question Arkkis .  What I suggested, will not work
[06:19] <N3WB> !allien
[06:19] <joincamp> Yuzzy:  rmps are not the native package for ubuntu, if you want to perform the task of shrinking dvds I'd look for a ubuntu solution first
[06:19] <Kunk> Hi. I cannot get Apache 1.3 or 2 with either PHP4 or 5 to actually dsiplay content of web pages locally. I've tried all the tips in the LAMP literature, but still get 'what do you want to do with this file/" libapache(2)-mod-php4 and 5 werew both enabled (I tried both at diff times). Still no go? Anyone else have this prob - Edgy 61.
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about allien - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <joincamp> Yuzzy: i think dvd::rip is maybe one?
[06:19] <alex____> N3WB: youve forgot ian :D
[06:19] <waxyfresh> is there a key logger in the repos?
[06:19] <Bsims> I am thinking a 22" ViewSonic Monitor w/ViewDock for my ipod <g>
[06:19] <N3WB> Yeye :p
[06:19] <waxyfresh> i just did an instal on another computer but everything on the screen is like x5times biggerthen it should be
[06:20] <X86echo> I have a majior problem
[06:20] <N3WB> !alien Yuzzy
[06:20] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (edgy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[06:20] <waxyfresh> i just did an instal on another computer but everything on the screen is like x5times biggerthen it should be
[06:20] <Yuzzy> joincamp... where can i get it?
[06:20] <joincamp> Yuzzy: check synaptic first
[06:20] <waxyfresh> X86echo: what is it?
[06:20] <Arkkis> jrib, actually, if I can just adjust the shown time format from Sun Mar 18, 19:19 to something like 18.3.07 19:19 and the calendar that opens from there to start on mondays, I'd be happy
[06:20] <Yuzzy> joincamp:nothing to rip dvd's in there
[06:21] <joincamp> Yuzzy: you can also do a search in there for "dvd" and see what else there is
[06:21] <shark-1> what happens if i dont specify an engine in my GTK theme? because if i dont i get just regular blue colors nomatter what i change
[06:21] <Arkkis> sadly I have no idea where to do that
[06:21] <jakoblaursen> Can't get my RaLink RT2500 to work on my WPA Wireless network. Please guide me
[06:21] <bullgard4> LegolasV: The answer depends on what do you consider 'small' and 'large'. For me, ubuntu 6.10 would not run on this computer but 7.04 does. For others, the applications are more refined and there are new applications. So this is a wide area to discuss.
[06:21] <jrib> Arkkis: but do you want the rest of your system to not use that locale?
[06:21] <cosmo_> would someone mind taking a look at my modified xorg.conf to see if I have everything set right to run 2 monitors as 2 Xwindows http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10917/
[06:21] <ineedhelp> what is the command to disable framebuffer?
[06:21] <jrib> ineedhelp: you are asked when you run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command
[06:21] <Nighteye> sup?
[06:22] <waxyfresh> whats the thisisnotabenchmark thing for glxgears?
[06:22] <wims> clearzen did you get that pastebin link ?
[06:22] <Nighteye> I'll soon find out
[06:22] <jrib> !glxgears | waxyfresh
[06:22] <ubotu> waxyfresh: To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[06:22] <Arkkis> jrib, yes, I do not want anything else to change, I want to stick to english, I'd just prefer the time to be more "readable" to me
[06:22] <joincamp> Yuzzy: its dvdrip in synaptic
[06:22] <joincamp> Yuzzy: or "sudo apt-get install dvdrip"
[06:22] <Yuzzy> ohhh...dvdrip...me see
[06:22] <jrib> Arkkis: right, but I suppose you want the time in other applications to also be finnish?
[06:22] <X86echo> in my networking if you click on System>Admin>Networking >Network Settings> Hosts    their all gone ? I dont know how this happend
[06:23] <Bsims> Yuzzy: also install k9copy its quite nice
[06:23] <roachclit> Guys I am still need of some help on the Restricted Extras package for win32codecs - libdvdcss2 package
[06:23] <X86echo> how do I get them back?
[06:23] <LegolasV> bullgard4: I want to use some of the new versions of applications (like ntfs-3g).
[06:23] <shilpi> hi is ne1 into gis and has experience with kamap?
[06:23] <Arkkis> jrib, does not matter really either way, because it's understandable, but that time is so visible and used, I'd like to see that as usable as possible
[06:23] <haven_> where can i find a deb package for 7-zip?
[06:23] <vleon> im confused i have an rt61 wlan and yet ubuntu loads another module, there is an rt61 module in ubuntu, when i try to load it with insmod it tells me that there is already -1 or something like that
[06:23] <jrib> !7zip |
[06:23] <ubotu> : Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:23] <waxyfresh> whts a good fps rate? is 250ish normal?
[06:24] <jrib>  !info 7zip | haven_
[06:24] <ubotu> haven_: Package 7zip does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:24] <kaktuskatta> Hi all! I have a problem with kdeTV....can someone lend a helping hand?
[06:24] <rbellamy> in bash scripting, what's the difference between "select" and "readline" and why would one work (select) and not the other (readline)?
[06:24] <kaktuskatta> :D
[06:24] <vleon> !rt61
[06:24] <roachclit> Guys I am still need of some help on the Restricted Extras package for win32codecs - libdvdcss2 package
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt61 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <yoran> hi all, I have a problem with Ubuntu freezing after update
[06:24] <clearzen> roachclit: what problem are you having?
[06:24] <yoran> could someone help me?
[06:24] <jrib> haven_: it's p7zip  and it is in universe
[06:24] <wolfey> waxyfresh: glxgears ? i have 1800 on radeon9600xt
[06:24] <wolfey> :)
[06:24] <bulmer> X86echo: cat /etc/hosts  are they gone?
[06:24] <Kunk> yoran: try Mandriva!
[06:24] <vleon> !r2x00
[06:24] <Arkkis> yoran, I'm not an expert but I think you should explain more what happens
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r2x00 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <yoran> well, i just reinstalled ubuntu
[06:25] <waxyfresh> 5.10 says  thats its u to date how do i force it upgtrade?
[06:25] <yoran> and i did the updates
[06:25] <X86echo> I dnt know I got to look I think my nefu delete them out of just the settings
[06:25] <yoran> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[06:25] <waxyfresh> wolfey: thanks
[06:25] <rbellamy> !readline
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about readline - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <yoran> and after restart
[06:25] <bulmer> rbellamy: are you sure there is such thing a readline as oppose to read line  ?
[06:25] <X86echo> in the hosts
[06:25] <X86echo> tab
[06:25] <yoran> it freezes a few seconds after i login
[06:25] <yoran> but
[06:25] <yoran> when i boot in recovery mode, it works fine
[06:25] <rbellamy> bulmer: yes... "man readline" very clearly exists
[06:26] <kaktuskatta> I think the card is installed, but there's no picture, and the screen goes black..... ;(
[06:26] <waxyfresh> i just did an instal on another computer but everything on the screen is like x5times biggerthen it should be
[06:26] <ineedhelp> jrib: it worked, how much do i owe ya?
[06:26] <Arkkis> yoran, could it be some program that runs on startup?
[06:26] <rbellamy> bulmer: and many bash examples use it...
[06:26] <bulmer> rbellamy: okay if it does exist, what does it tells you?
[06:26] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: i use tvtime :)
[06:26] <rbellamy> bulmer: command not found
[06:26] <jrib> ineedhelp: nothing, just enjoy ubuntu :)
[06:26] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: try that:)
[06:26] <X86echo> yes  cat /etc/hosts
[06:26] <yoran> Arkkis: i don't think so everything worked fine before the update
[06:26] <X86echo> all gone
[06:26] <rbellamy> bulmer: which is exactly my problem... it's not in usr/bin or /bin
[06:26] <yoran> Arkkis: i have dual boot with vista
[06:27] <moonboy33> Why is Ubuntu (Edgy Eft x64) crashing everytime i close my laptops lid or adjust LCD Brightness?
[06:27] <X86echo> I will try the fourm
[06:27] <Arkkis> yoran, sorry, I'm not an expert, I have no idea how to help you :|
[06:27] <bulmer> rbellamy: are you sure there is such thing a readline as oppose to read line  ? <-- thats why i asked
[06:27] <yoran> Arkkis: ok no problem
[06:27] <kaktuskatta> wolfey: Ok, thanks ;)
[06:27] <yoran> Arkkis: thanks anyway
[06:27] <jrib> Arkkis: well you could create a new locale... I'm still looking to see if there is a better way to do what you want
[06:27] <Arkkis> jrib, any ideas on the time locale thing?
[06:27] <Arkkis> hmm
[06:27] <bulmer> X86echo: you can always add host to that list
[06:27] <wims> do i have to reboot to make my system use changes i made to fstab or are there a way to load it without rebooting ?
[06:27] <ineedhelp> jrib:  I love ubuntu it is the best!  How do I get beryl to work without breaking xserver again?
[06:27] <X86echo> see people dont let littel kids play with computers
[06:27] <Arkkis> okay
[06:27] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: not that it solves your problem, but tvtime is cool
[06:27] <wolfey> :)
[06:27] <X86echo> blumer
[06:27] <rbellamy> bulmer: aha.... so the answer is: I've got readline-common and libreadline5 installed
[06:27] <jrib> ineedhelp: the folks at #ubuntu-effects are experts on that
[06:28] <AtlanticBoy> Hello. By default xorg.conf has 24bits color. My card accepts 32bits. Is it possible to change the value? (ati, fglrx)
[06:28] <X86echo> it will not be the same as it was fresh
[06:28] <rbellamy> bulmer: maybe the better question would be, how do i use it?
[06:28] <mailow> my favourite tv program is maplyerTV
[06:28] <ineedhelp> awesome I've never been there I'll check it out.
[06:28] <mailow> :D
[06:28] <yoran> hi all i have a problem: ubuntu freezes after i did apt-get upgrade
[06:28] <ineedhelp> jrib: thanks again
[06:28] <bulmer> rbellamy: but you attempted to run readline in bash and it does not work..so i surmised its not there
[06:28] <X86echo> my loop back device was in their
[06:28] <shark-1> yoran: what did it upgrade?
[06:29] <hateyla> in System >> quit >> there is no shutdown option. this is just logoff , Switch user, hibernate, lock screen.. can i add Reboot and Shutdown option there?
[06:29] <bulmer> X86echo: add it back then
[06:29] <cosmo_> 32 bits is actually 24 bits with 8 bits going to something else (I forget what)
[06:29] <yoran> shark-1: everything i guess
[06:29] <yoran> shark-1: i just reinstalled ubuntu
[06:29] <cosmo_> I think textures
[06:29] <AtlanticBoy> cosmo_ thanks
[06:29] <will``> cosmo_: alpha?
[06:29] <yoran> shark-1: and after i fixed my internet connection i did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[06:29] <waxyfresh> i just did an instal on another computer but everything on the screen is like x5times biggerthen it should be
[06:29] <jrib> AtlanticBoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#32-bit_color
[06:29] <Arkkis> this is something that bugs me, when people make locales for programs, it's all or nothing. I'd like to be able to use english with a few tweaks. (like spellchecking on my language, time, currency and such settings) Mainly I want to do this because there's plenty of vocabulary that just can not be translated from english because the words are missing or do not quite represent what they are supposed to.
[06:29] <yoran> shark-1: it had to dl about 200 mb of files
[06:29] <AtlanticBoy> thanks jrib
[06:30] <Reiser_x> i need to know how to configure gnugk
[06:30] <yoran> shark-1: and after i rebooted, ubuntu freezes after a few seconds
[06:30] <JAyRULE> how do i enable a printer?
[06:30] <yoran> shark-1: i can use the mouse and all
[06:30] <waxyfresh> !gnugk
[06:30] <moonboy33> Why is Ubuntu (Edgy Eft x64) crashing everytime i close my laptops lid or adjust LCD Brightness?
[06:30] <bulmer> X86echo: the format of that file content is ...   ipaddr  hostname
[06:30] <ubotu> gnugk: OpenH323 Gatekeeper - The GNU Gatekeeper. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:2.2.3-2-3 (edgy), package size 890 kB, installed size 2384 kB
[06:30] <yoran> shark-1: but i can't click onanything
[06:30] <JAyRULE> how do i enable a printer using 6.06 ubuntu server?
[06:30] <kaktuskatta> wolfey: THANKS CHAMP! It works with no hassle and complicated settings :D:D
[06:30] <yoran> shark-1: its weird but when i boot in recovery mode, it works fine
[06:30] <occasus> hello!
[06:30] <bulmer> JAyRULE: you turn the printer on first
[06:31] <shark-1> yoran: hmm
[06:31] <yoran> shark-1: i think it has something to do with gnome or something
[06:31] <JAyRULE> bulmer thanks, but whats the command to print
[06:31] <strtok> has anyone seen this error ? journal commit I/O error
[06:31] <bulmer> JAyRULE: lpr
[06:31] <kaktuskatta> wolfey: I've been banging my head in the wall lately because of these cryptic errormessages I got with kdeTV
[06:31] <strtok> looks like filesystem is read only now
[06:31] <cosmo_> will``: yep you were right
[06:31] <JAyRULE> k thanks
[06:31] <yoran> shark-1: i run in dual boot with windows vista
[06:31] <yoran> shark-1: its annoying cause i have to boot all the time in recovery mode
[06:32] <hateyla> in System tab >> quit option  >> there is no shutdown option. there is just logoff , Switch user, hibernate, lock screen.. can i add Reboot and Shutdown option there.. I m using Ubuntu-desktop.
[06:32] <yoran> shark-1: its always after an upgrade that the problem comes
[06:32] <shark-1> anyone know what is wrong with yorans comp?
[06:32] <shark-1> yoran, clean install? version?
[06:33] <yoran> shark-1: ubuntu dapper drake
[06:33] <mymachinethinks> bulmer, ou there? sorry power failed
[06:33] <yoran> shark-1: the ship it version
[06:33] <yoran> shark-1: clean install ye
[06:33] <bulmer> am here
[06:33] <shark-1> yoran, and you are just upgrading dapper or are you upgrading to edgy?
[06:33] <mymachinethinks> bulmer, I'm getting the nxclient.deb
[06:33] <yoran> shark-1: just upgrading dapper
[06:33] <bulmer> i cant do electrician work remotely...lolz
[06:33] <yoran> shark-1: upgrading the packages and stuff
[06:33] <mymachinethinks> bulmer, :-) ha ha
[06:34] <yoran> shark-1: just did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[06:34] <moonboy33> Why is Ubuntu (Edgy Eft x64) crashing everytime i close my laptops lid or adjust LCD Brightness?
[06:34] <shark-1> yoran, hmm i think for awhile i was experiencing this have you considered upgrading to edgy?
[06:34] <l90bpm> if you have recieved ship-it once (about a year 1/2 ago) can you get them again?  would it be wrong?
[06:34] <JAyRULE> bulmer: well how do i install the printer. lpr asks for a name of the printer)
[06:34] <bulmer> mymachinethinks: okay install the nxclient and be on the lookout if it has any dependencies
[06:34] <yoran> shark-1: no not yet but i think that if the problem persits then i will
[06:35] <AtlanticBoy> jrib, that site was really useful :-) From what i learned there I'm already thinking about changing to 16 bits in order to have more video performance :-) thanks again
[06:35] <JAyRULE> bulmer: im using 6.06 lts server, so im dealing with just the terminal
[06:35] <bulmer> JAyRULE: you go to Systems -->Printing
[06:35] <bulmer> and add
[06:35] <shark-1> yoran, what i would suggest is if you cant get it to work you could try to reinstall with a newer cd by burning the dapper ISO or try upgrading to edgy
[06:35] <guille> hi
[06:35] <JAyRULE> bulmer i dont have the gui installed
[06:36] <yoran> shark-1: okay and if i choose to upgrade to edgy, do i have to reinstall everything?
[06:36] <yoran> shark-1: edgy is that ubuntu 6.10?
[06:36] <mymachinethinks> bulmer, ugh is there an AMD version?
[06:36] <bulmer> JAyRULE: then you need to google for the tutorial, i cant remember all the LPD stuff, which config files and such..but its not overly difficult
[06:36] <waxyfresh> whats the default name on a ubuntu server? ???name???@ubuntu
[06:36] <mymachinethinks> bulmer, mine says wrong arch
[06:36] <bXi> is there a kernel repository for ubuntu?
[06:37] <shark-1> yoran, currently your dapper works correct? just in recovery mode?
[06:37] <wolfey> waxyfresh: whoami @ hostname
[06:37] <wolfey> :)
[06:37] <bulmer> mymachinethinks: download the matching version then
[06:37] <shark-1> yoran, yes its 6.10
[06:37] <bXi> so people can install multiple kernels (including the newer ones)
[06:37] <guille> I cannot limit upload speed under azureus, does anyone know why and how to limit it? It never happened before, just with ubuntu
[06:37] <jrib> AtlanticBoy: np, that confused me too at first
[06:37] <yoran> shark-1: yeah it works fine in recovery mode
[06:37] <oblivion> heu french?
[06:37] <X86echo> !sudo
[06:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:38] <JAyRULE> bulmer: yeah thats why i showed up here, because my searches display how tos, assuming a desktop gui is installed
[06:38] <JAyRULE> ill search around
[06:38] <AtlanticBoy> jrib, information is power. no doubts about it ( if used the right way )
[06:38] <yoran> shark-1: when i download edgy, does it work the same as dapper drake? is it a live cd?
[06:38] <mailow> re all
[06:38] <shark-1> yoran, another thing you could try is to install the upgrades through update manager
[06:38] <bXi> yoran: yes
[06:38] <shark-1> yoran, yes its a live cd or you could just upgrade your computer right now to edgy
[06:39] <sanityx> Which verson of ubuntu will be the next LTS version?
[06:39] <waxyfresh> wolfey: but is there a default?like with ubuntu the deafault is just ubuntu@whatever i think
[06:39] <bulmer> JAyRULE: umm i dont think you need the gui, the dpkg will install the necessary stuff for printing, just need to find out which package the printing manager is on
[06:39] <yoran> shark-1: ok update manager is that the graphical update thing?
[06:39] <shark-1> yes
[06:39] <wolfey> waxyfresh: yourusername@yourhostname
[06:39] <wolfey> waxyfresh: whoami  , hostname   commands
[06:39] <sanityx> !LTS
[06:39] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:39] <bulmer> JAyRULE: so first thing is find out which package is for the printingmanager or maybe it is called cups...
[06:40] <shark-1> i think LTS is every other version
[06:40] <jakoblaursen> !wireless
[06:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:40] <sanityx> shark-1, I don't think so.
[06:40] <shark-1> oh
[06:40] <waxyfresh> i just did an instal on another computer but everything on the screen is like x5times biggerthen it should be how doi fix this from the termanal
[06:40] <sanityx> I think it might be the one after 7.04 but I want to make sure.
[06:40] <bXi> from what i've heard the 7.04 release will be LTS
[06:40] <sanityx> bXi, Oh ok so it is every other version then.
[06:40] <bulmer> do not forget, what ever is behind those gui you click is a command line, so its a matter of finding out the command behind
[06:40] <JAyRULE> bulmer: yeah, i installed cups because i would eventually like to print from other pc's on the same network.
[06:40] <bXi> sanityx: i could be wrong
[06:41] <sanityx> Because I want to run a server, but I want to do it with an LTS version, since it will be production eventually.
[06:41] <N3WB> what is libuuid and where can i get it?
[06:41] <JAyRULE> bulmer: however, i dont know how to access the printer locally
[06:42] <yoran> shark-1: is it normal that that iso is 0 bytes????
[06:42] <shark-1> yoran, no
[06:42] <crdlb> yoran, no lol
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:42] <knix_> i have a ati radeon 9250 and when I install the drivers it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10919/
[06:42] <bulmer> JAyRULE: i already told you lpr    if not sure still, do this  apropos  printer and you see bunch of printer related commands
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> yoran: if it was 0 bytes, it means its more or less nothing
[06:43] <yoran> i know that lol that why i was wondering
[06:43] <swimmerino88> hi to evrebody,i have a little big problem with my wireless card...I usually use this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)?highlight=%28broadcom%29 link to install my wireless card but now it doesn't work!who can help me?
[06:43] <JAyRULE> bulmer: well yeah, i tried lpr, but it's asking for the name of the printer
[06:43] <sanityx> What do you guys do before you patch your servers, in terms of backing them up in case the patches blow something up?
[06:43] <IndyGunFreak> sanityx: simple, don't patch em
[06:44] <sanityx> Ok but I want to patch them . . .
[06:44] <wolfey> knix_: why dont you chmod +x ati.... ; ./ati ...
[06:44] <sanityx> Security holes . . . stability issues, etc.
[06:44] <yoran> and what would u recommend gnome or kde
[06:44] <sanityx> IndyGunFreak, Not to mention that really doesn't answer my question.
[06:44] <knix_> wolfey, ty, let me try that
[06:44] <bulmer> JAyRULE: you can dpkg install cups and use a web browser to manage it , its port 631 to manage it
[06:44] <IndyGunFreak> sanityx: i didn't suggest it did.
[06:44] <wolfey> knix_: dunno why there would be syntax error:P
[06:44] <swimmerino88> is here somebody who can help me with my wireless card?
[06:44] <knix_> lol
[06:45] <IndyGunFreak> yoran: it depends, i like gnome, lots of folks like KDE, its a preference thing.
[06:45] <shark-1> lol i have ADD and right now im trying to clean my room fold clothes help people here theme my gnome and help my dad
[06:45] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless
[06:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:45] <shark-1> soooo hard
[06:45] <JAyRULE> bulmer ahh okay ill give that a shot.  thanks
[06:45] <waxyfresh> swimmerino88: whats wrong?
[06:45] <knix_> wolfey, ya, same thing "./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution"
[06:45] <swimmerino88> IndyGunFreak: I know all!my problem is in the guide
[06:45] <N3WB> what is libuuid and where can i get it?
[06:45] <comosicus> my video card is not suported x video......so ....in a mplayer preferinces i' able to choose from many video driver but seems nothing it's working to play wmw file.my question is that.What video drive i myst have in mplayer preference box to see wmw file?my video card is ati rage mobilyti
[06:45] <waxyfresh> swimmerino88: | !anyone
[06:45] <IndyGunFreak> swimmerino88: good luck
[06:45] <stork> so how do i execute a command as root when i log in to X ?
[06:45] <X86echo> all right shark-1 me too I have ADHD
[06:46] <wolfey> knix_: hmm... try downloading again/another version
[06:46] <waxyfresh> !anyone | anyone
[06:46] <X86echo> ;-)
[06:46] <ubotu> anyone: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:46] <wolfey> knix_: it shouldnt be like that
[06:46] <shark-1> X86echo, do you take meds?
[06:46] <knix_> wolfey, i did, :(
[06:46] <X86echo> no lol
[06:46] <yoran> ok im gonna go for gnome then
[06:46] <X86echo> they never gave me none
[06:46] <ravi> ADHD == ADD?
[06:46] <sanityx> ravi, almost.
[06:46] <shark-1> kinda
[06:46] <shark-1> ADHD = ADD - Hyperactivity
[06:46] <sanityx> ravi, ADD is just ADHD without hyperactivity.
[06:46] <ravi> ah, ok
[06:47] <stork> is that one of those made up diseases like dyslexia ?
[06:47] <sanityx> stork, I declare you an asshole.
[06:47] <swimmerino88> waxyfresh: in the guide it is written---->to do this:ndiswrapper -a 14E4:4324 bcmw15 when i did it i had this output:ls: /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmw15/: No such file or directory
[06:47] <swimmerino88> driver 'bcmw15' is not installed (properly)!
[06:47] <stork> sanityx, i declare you uneducated and closed minded!
[06:47] <raboof> `oh dear'.
[06:47] <wolfey> knix_: one thing however to *build* anything *useful* on ubuntu you need  apt-get install build-essential
[06:47] <X86echo> I never take'n any meds manI never wanted none Iam what Iam and I think Iam real good at somethings I do
[06:47] <sanityx> stork, Uneducated because I don't think dyslexia, add, and adhd are fae?
[06:47] <wolfey> (dunno if that applies to your problem) :)
[06:47] <jrib> stork, sanityx: you're both offtopic, please take it somewhere else
[06:47] <stork> dyslexia is just there for middle class parents to squeeze more education for their kids
[06:47] <knix_> wolfey, ty
[06:48] <wolfey> knix_: but you migth have problem compiling otherwise
[06:48] <kinto> hi all
[06:48] <raboof> lovely /ignore
[06:48] <shark-1> stork i used to have straight A's and i began to fail in school and i wouldnt be able to focus i am diagnosed with ADD and right now i have 3 F's 2 D's and an A
[06:48] <waxyfresh> swimmerino88: sorry cant help you
[06:48] <shark-1> sry finishing my sentence
[06:48] <waxyfresh> i just did an instal on another computer but everything on the screen is like x5times biggerthen it should be how doi fix this from the termanal
[06:48] <N3WB> what is libuuid and where can i get it?!!!
[06:48] <N3WB> !libuuid
[06:48] <waxyfresh> on 5.10
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libuuid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <shark-1> waxyfresh, try changing ur resolution?
[06:49] <IndyGunFreak> N3WB: its 0prolly in the repos i bet
[06:49] <kaktuskatta> wolfey: I haven't got sound when I use tvtime... tried to change settings, but for no improvement
[06:49] <kaktuskatta> I have sound when I play music
[06:49] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: hold on there's a trick
[06:50] <shark-1> kaktuskatta, are your speakers turned on?
[06:50] <sesamebike> hi! I'd like to control my upnp enabled firewall from the command line. Does anyone know of a command line client? I've only found lib/sdk .
[06:50] <kaktuskatta> shark-1: Yes ;)
[06:50] <cables> Ubotu's factoid about VirtualBox says I should compile from scratch... is that really necessary? They have Edgy debs on the site...
[06:50] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: tvtime page suggest to redirect sound from /dev/dsp1 to /dev/dsp
[06:50] <wolfey> sox -r 32000 -w -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp
[06:50] <wolfey> that does it
[06:50] <kinto> i'm new in ubuntu, where can i found the packages mpg123, liferea, mplayer? which line i have to write in the source.list?
[06:50] <cables> kinto, you don't have to write anything to sources.list.
[06:51] <sanityx> If I tar up all the files that are part of a certain package I installed, and then do apt-get update, and the patch blows something up, so I restore the tar'd files, will apt now just see the old version of the package, or will it get confused?
[06:51] <wolfey> kinto: normally you must enabled universe and multiverse
[06:51] <kaktuskatta> wolfey:  Thanks m8
[06:51] <wolfey> and apt-get update
[06:51] <shark-1> kinto, google is everyones best friend try learning repositories
[06:51] <sanityx> sorry not apt-get update, if i do apt-get install to upgrade a package
[06:51] <cables> kinto, to enable them, you can use System>Administration>Software Sources
[06:51] <N3WB> configure: error: *** uuid library (libuuid) not found
[06:51] <shark-1> kinto, if u still struggle come back
[06:51] <kinto> yes i've already used google
[06:51] <N3WB> ffs does no body know anything? Does never somebody complime stuff? -.-
[06:51] <kinto> http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[06:51] <cables> kinto, are you using Edgy?
[06:51] <kaktuskatta> wolfey: "sox: command not found"
[06:51] <kinto> there
[06:52] <kinto> there are too lines
[06:52] <cables> kinto, check off Universe and Multiverse
[06:52] <wolfey> kinto: try apt-get install sox    ?
[06:52] <kinto> yes edgy
[06:52] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: i mean
[06:52] <rickyfingers> N3WB: what are you trying to compile?
[06:52] <kinto> sox is not avalible
[06:52] <cables> kinto, do you see the checkboxes for Community Maintained? Check those off
[06:52] <kinto> avalaible
[06:52] <kaktuskatta> wolfey: Ok, but what is sox?
[06:52] <shark-1> !sox
[06:52] <ubotu> sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.17.9-1 (edgy), package size 285 kB, installed size 656 kB
[06:53] <cables> kinto, I think the sox message was for someone else.
[06:53] <rickyfingers> !realplay
[06:53] <wolfey> it samples from dsp1 and sends to dsp
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <rickyfingers> !realplayer
[06:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:53] <kinto> let me try
[06:53] <cables> kinto, are you in System>Administration>Software Sources?
[06:53] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: kind of digital recording of dsp1 and streaming to dsp (your soundcard)
[06:53] <N3WB> rickyfingers: GParted
[06:53] <kinto> !mpg123
[06:53] <ubotu> mpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.60-3 (edgy), package size 129 kB, installed size 324 kB (Only available for i386 alpha powerpc m68k arm sparc hppa)
[06:53] <HollywoodCode> hey can someone help me figure out how to install a program called no-ip , ?? please please
[06:53] <madMike666> !seahorse
[06:54] <ubotu> seahorse: A Gnome front end for GnuPG. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1560 kB, installed size 5528 kB
[06:54] <kinto> ok i've to know best about multiverse and universe
[06:54] <kaktuskatta> wolfey: and this is something that will go automaticly from now on?
[06:54] <cables> kinto, are you in System>Administration>Software Sources? Please answer...
[06:54] <shark-1> computers are crazy the knowledge that is going on in here is so amazing its almost scary
[06:54] <Spartacus> !su
[06:54] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:54] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: no you need to add it to start script
[06:54] <rickyfingers> N3WB: usually after you download the .tar.gz file, or .tar.bz file, it's tar -xvzf <filename>, make, make install
[06:54] <kaktuskatta> ok
[06:54] <wolfey> in gentoo it is /etc/conf.d/local.start .. somebody else will have to tell
[06:55] <kaktuskatta> I think it's sampling now. How long will this go on?
[06:55] <shark-1> !GParted
[06:55] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:55] <kinto> cables: i'm not familiar with gui like synaptic
[06:55] <IndyGunFreak> there's a lot o dangerous sources on that list
[06:55] <rickyfingers> N3WB: but it's always a good idea to read the readme file after you untar/uncompress the file
[06:55] <kinto> i come from debian
[06:55] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: until it is killed:)
[06:55] <N3WB> Which i did
[06:55] <kaktuskatta> sweet
[06:55] <kinto> nevere used synaptic o software like that
[06:55] <wolfey> kaktuskatta: i use screen to run it in background
[06:55] <shark-1> N3WB, why compile?
[06:55] <wolfey> apt-get install screen
[06:55] <wolfey> screen -d -m sox -r 32000 -w -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp
[06:55] <wolfey> that i have in start script
[06:56] <kaktuskatta> ok
[06:56] <cables> kinto, you don't need Synaptic for this. Enable the Universe repository through System>Administration>Software Sources, then install the package through the terminal.
[06:56] <N3WB> shark-l: Complime or LiveCD with my slow internet i choose number 1
[06:56] <merc> i ran lshw, and it wont stop, just sits there, i tried ctrl-z/c, kill, kill -9, etc, any other ways to stop it?
[06:56] <Hybernate> can any one link me to the slolution to fix my amarok so it can play Mp3
[06:57] <rickyfingers> merc: sudo ps -ef | grep <program name>
[06:57] <rickyfingers> sudo kill -s 9 <process number from above>
[06:57] <kinto> cables: i've disabled my user from use sudo...so Software Sources doesn't work
[06:57] <rickyfingers> should killl just about anything.
[06:57] <HollywoodCode> can someone help me configure a program called no-ip, i have to make and configure, please anyone whos smart help me ,thank you
[06:57] <IndyGunFreak> kinto: lol
[06:57] <kaktuskatta> Anyone got good experience with automatix? A friend of mine mentioned that it was the best solution to come as close as possible to plug and play with very many things
[06:57] <cables> kinto, do you have root access?
[06:57] <Spartacus> What's an equivalent command I can use to 'su -c "make install"'?
[06:57] <XiXaQ> how do I find all the files installed by a package?
[06:57] <kinto> vim /etc/apt/source.list is the same thing :)
[06:57] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix
[06:57] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: we discussed this yesterday - you should not be building from source
[06:57] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:57] <kinto> of course
[06:58] <cables> kinto, crazy debian user :)
[06:58] <kaktuskatta> !worksforme
[06:58] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:58] <cables> kinto, fine, I'm not sure how to do it in Edgy, but in Dapper the repositories were on separate lines in the sources.list. Not sure how in Edgy.
[06:58] <wolfey> ikonia HollywoodCode building from source is so un-ubuntu. gentoo is the way
[06:58] <wolfey> :_))
[06:58] <merc> rickyfingers: didnt work, im assuming the kill -9 is the same as telling it signal 9..
[06:58] <XiXaQ> !WorksForMe
[06:58] <ikonia> wolfey: its more he hasn't got a clue at the moment so needs to do some reading/learning but is too laz
[06:58] <cables> kinto, you'll need to enable the universe and multiverse repositories.
[06:58] <ikonia> lazy
[06:58] <N3WB> checking for uuid_generate in -luuid... no
[06:58] <N3WB> configure: error: *** uuid library (libuuid) not found
[06:58] <IndyGunFreak> kaktuskatta: it works fine for me to, but here, you'll catch a federal case for talking about automatix.
[06:59] <jakoblaursen> I get following message: no DHCPOFFERS received... What do I do?
[06:59] <kinto> cables: here there are the lines i've added
[06:59] <rickyfingers> N3WB: this is a common problem when you compile from source
[06:59] <kinto> # Ubuntu community supported packages (GPG key: 437D05B5)
[06:59] <kinto> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse
[06:59] <kinto> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates universe multiverse
[06:59] <kinto> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe multiverse
[06:59] <kinto> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed universe multiverse
[06:59] <kinto> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse
[06:59] <kinto> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates universe multiverse
[06:59] <jrib> N3WB: have you installed the -dev packages for it?  What are you compiling?
[06:59] <kinto> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe multiverse
[06:59] <jrib> !paste | kinto
[06:59] <ubotu> kinto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:59] <kinto> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed universe multiverse
[06:59] <wolfey> ikonia: i recommended ubuntu to add build-essential to default install.. it confuses our poor students
[06:59] <cables> !paste | kinto
[06:59] <wolfey> :))
[06:59] <rickyfingers> N3WB: you need that library
[06:59] <N3WB> for 10th f* time GParted!
[07:00] <Spartacus> Anyone know of a command I can use in edgy instead of 'su -c "make install"'? The Qt install says to use that command
[07:00] <rickyfingers> N3WB: so if you still want to go the compile from source route, you'll have to download the source tarball for that library
[07:00] <cables> Spartacus, sudo make install
[07:00] <jrib> !checkinstall | Spartacus
[07:00] <ubotu> Spartacus: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[07:00] <kaktuskatta> IndyGunFreak: Ok...hehe. I think I'll just ask here instead of installing that software then
[07:00] <Enselic> What's the easiset way to pipe newline separated entries from stdout  be space separated?
[07:00] <kaktuskatta> ;)
[07:00] <ikonia> wolfey: shouldn't have to - if you need to use them, you should be on the ball enough to know how to research how to install them
[07:00] <cables> Spartacus, better to use Checkinstall though
[07:00] <ikonia> wolfey: if you can't figure out how to install gcc - should you be using it for example
[07:00] <rickyfingers> N3WB: and keep ./configuring, makeing etc.
[07:00] <jrib> Spartacus: what are you installing? qt?
[07:00] <cables> Spartacus, sudo aptitude install checkinstall && sudo checkinstall
[07:00] <wolfey> ikonia: but gcc is installed by default
[07:00] <wolfey> ikonia: while standard libs are not
[07:00] <rickyfingers> N3WB: package managers hide this headahce.
[07:00] <wolfey> i dont get this
[07:00] <ikonia> wolfey: I was using it as an example
[07:00] <cables> kinto, have you pastebinned the file yet?
[07:01] <cables> !paste > kinto
[07:01] <Spartacus> jrib, yea, qt
[07:01] <lemon> ciao a tutti
[07:01] <jakoblaursen> I've asked about 10 times. Can't anyone help me getting my wireless to work?
[07:01] <N3WB> If you geuinies find a precomplimed version here then congratulations: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=125754
[07:01] <Dekkard> is there a feisty channel?
[07:01] <kaktuskatta> Why doesn't alt+tab work in ubuntu? Is this disabled by default? I want it to swich between programs....
[07:01] <kinto> oh
[07:01] <jrib> rickyfingers: the uuid library is packaged
[07:01] <cables> N3WB, you mean compiled/
[07:01] <kinto> i paste it
[07:01] <ikonia> Dekkard: #ubuntu+1
[07:01] <Enselic> !wireless | jakoblaursen:
[07:01] <ubotu> jakoblaursen:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:01] <kinto> !paste
[07:01] <Sukkelus> Anybody in here who knows how to get an Artec AM12E Plus scanner to work on Dapper?
[07:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:01] <IndyGunFreak> kaktuskatta: it does work, for me anyways
[07:01] <Dekkard> thanks ikonia
[07:01] <kinto> !paste | kinto
[07:01] <N3WB> W H A T  E V E R
[07:01] <Spartacus> thanks, jrib and cbles
[07:01] <Spartacus> cables*
[07:01] <jrib> !attitude | N3WB
[07:01] <ubotu> N3WB: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:01] <kinto> how work it?
[07:01] <ikonia> jrib: you beat me again
[07:01] <jakoblaursen> I've tried the documentation
[07:02] <VincentVega> anyone is familiar with Thin Client on ubuntu ?
[07:02] <IndyGunFreak> lol, kinto, you've been told to pastebin like 12x..lol
[07:02] <cables> !paste | kinto, follow the link in this message.
[07:02] <ubotu> kinto, follow the link in this message.: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:02] <Arkkis> jrib, so, no ideas how to do the locale thing?
[07:02] <ikonia> VincentVega: what thin client
[07:02] <easytiger> is there an opera plugin for beagle?
[07:02] <VincentVega> it uses etherboot technique
[07:02] <jakoblaursen> Enselic: I get following error: no DHCPOFFERS received
[07:02] <jrib> Arkkis: no, sorry.  Have you tried the finnish channel (I believe there is one)? they may have tried to do this alredy
[07:02] <ikonia> VincentVega: do you mean diskless client ?
[07:02] <VincentVega> yes
[07:02] <Arkkis> jrib, good idea thanks
[07:03] <Arkkis> thanks for your time tho :)
[07:03] <kinto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10920/plain/
[07:03] <VincentVega> my problem is, that I got old laptop which can serve as X-terminal
[07:03] <rickyfingers> N3WB: the thing is, my ubuntu install came with GParted, if I ook under system->administration->Gnome Partition Manager, it's right there
[07:03] <Enselic> jakoblaursen: is your router DHCP enabled?
[07:03] <VincentVega> but etherboot dosent have driver for Xircom card
[07:03] <Slick_> hey guys, I'm trying to share some films stored on my ubuntu machine with my windows media centre.  I've got samba up and running and I can access the files from the media centre by running "\\ip address", I've also set it so you don't need a password to get the folder.  The problem is I can't access the files by windows searching for them on the network (which means I can't put them in media centre).  Does anyone have any sug
[07:03] <Slick_> gestions?
[07:04] <jakoblaursen> Enselic: yes
[07:04] <cables> kinto, run "apt-get update" as root, then install the packages you want, again, as root.
[07:04] <HollywoodCode> ikonia: why is bad to build from the source?
[07:04] <kinto> ok universe and multiverse are the solution
[07:04] <jrib> N3WB: do you know about apt-get and synaptic?
[07:04] <ikonia> HollywoodCode: as I said yesterday, because you don't understand what you're doing
[07:04] <neo__> Anyone out there who can help me with a netowrking problem?
[07:04] <cables> kinto, it looks like you've got your sources set up right.
[07:04] <cables> !who | kinto
[07:04] <ubotu> kinto: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[07:04] <Nitro> When I scroll with my mouse, it lags. :s How do I fix that?
[07:04] <N3WB> Yes i do
[07:04] <kinto> have the universe and multi security updates?
[07:04] <IndyGunFreak> !tab
[07:04] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:04] <Sukkelus> neo: What networking problem?
[07:04] <N3WB> rickyfingers: Dont see anything..
[07:04] <Enselic> jakoblaursen: do you use enncryption of some kind?
[07:04] <jrib> N3WB: why don't you use APT to install gparted?
[07:04] <kaktuskatta> could someone here please help me out with the alt+tab combination ? It doesn't work, and I would very much like it to swich between programs in ubuntu ::)
[07:04] <cables> kinto, please use my nick when talking to me.
[07:05] <kinto> cables: have the universe and multi security updates?
[07:05] <neo__> Sukkelus: I need to access shares on another computer on my LAN running windows.
[07:05] <IndyGunFreak> poor kinto is getting beat up pretty bad..lol
[07:05] <cables> kinto, they're already enabled in your sources file, it looks like.
[07:05] <N3WB> Finaly that stupid thing worked... it never wanted to listen to me just showed me a lot of errors when i tried apt-get
[07:05] <jakoblaursen> Enselic: yes WPA encryption. I tried the RT2500 WPA guide, and the DHCPOFFER... was the result...
[07:05] <corpcomp> I have just installed Ubuntu server 6.10 it never asked for a root password, and I have skimmed through the docs to find a default.  Does anyone know what this might be?  I am a first time user.
[07:05] <bullgard4> LegolasV: For new applications of the kind you mentioned I can recommend to use Ubuntu 7.04 already now. All detriments I experienced were smaller crashes. The operating system proper never crahed on my (rather exotic) computer.
[07:05] <Spartacus> What does it mean if I get "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"?
[07:05] <Enselic> jakoblaursen: does it work with no encryption?
[07:05] <N3WB> corpcomp: Use Sudo
[07:06] <IndyGunFreak> kinto: what are you tryign to install again?
[07:06] <N3WB> !su
[07:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:06] <N3WB> !su corpcomp
[07:06] <jrib> Spartacus: do you have synaptic or update-manager open?
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about su corpcomp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <blabj> Hey umm, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I have with Ubuntu (not just ubuntu, but most linux installations I've tried...) I'll wait my turn till you're finished helping the others.
[07:06] <kinto> IndyGunFreak: what does mean "is getting beat up pretty bad" ?
[07:06] <Spartacus> jrib, yea, synaptic
[07:06] <corpcomp> N3WB: I did, it asked for a password
[07:06] <Enselic> blabj: dont. ask.
[07:06] <jakoblaursen> I can't turn of the encryption on the router.. Haven't got acces for that..
[07:06] <IndyGunFreak> kinto: everyone is jumping your tail...
[07:06] <N3WB> That would be yours password
[07:06] <kinto> i've installed mplayer and liferea correctly, all work
[07:06] <jrib> Spartacus: you need to close it, only one application can use the database at a time
[07:06] <jakoblaursen> Enselic: see above.
[07:06] <knapp> Anyone here familiar with rdesktop?
[07:06] <Sukkelus> neo: Sorry, nevr done that before - will give it a go later tonite. Unfortunately (lol) I still have a Windoze machine as well......
[07:06] <N3WB> You login with your name and password which you set up under install
[07:06] <cables> kinto, since you've disabled sudo, you'll have to use su to get a root terminal and use "apt-get update" then use aptitude install <packages separated by spaces> to install the packages.
[07:06] <Spartacus> jrib, okay, thanks
[07:06] <rickyfingers> corpcomp: it should be  the same password as for the first user you created
[07:07] <corpcomp> rickyfingers: TY
[07:07] <blabj> Ok, when I launch ubuntu from the desktop CD, it sometimes manages to get into the OS, usually if I set the desktop to 1024x768x32, however it hangs after about 1 minute, or if I try to run any programme (including the installer)
[07:07] <jakoblaursen> Enselic: I'm writing you from my Mac using the same wireless router as my ubuntu is supposed to use..
[07:07] <blabj> This happens to me on Fedora also
[07:07] <Enselic> jakoblaursen: did you follow a guide? then do the steps again and make sure there is no typo anywhere
[07:07] <kinto> cables: i know :) i've used debian for 5 years and today i've tried ubuntu
[07:08] <ikonia> kinto: your comments don't come across as a user of debian for 5 years
[07:08] <rickyfingers> blabj: are you installing the plain desktop version of ubuntu...because I had similar problems trying to install 64 bit version of ubuntu.
[07:08] <blabj> Yep, 64 bit ubuntu desktop.
[07:08] <rickyfingers> blabj: had to flash my bios before 64 bit install would go
[07:09] <rickyfingers> blabj: I have an asus  m2npv-vm motherboard
[07:09] <blabj> Hmmm ok, I'll have a goosey at my mobo and see what I can dig up, I can't even remember what model it is now.
[07:09] <kinto> what comment? i've write something fool?
[07:09] <blabj> Asus, sounds familiar..
[07:09] <blabj> Brb, gonna rip the side off the PC :P
[07:09] <kinto> ikonia:  what comment? i've write something fool?
[07:09] <rickyfingers> blabj: you might have better luck just using the 32 bit install
[07:09] <N3WB> What does a Warning sign mean in GParted?
[07:09] <N3WB> /dev/sda5/ and then its a warning sign
[07:09] <N3WB> before that its /dev/sda1 and it says Extended
[07:09] <ikonia> kinto: nothing stupid or silly, can't quite explain it
[07:09] <blabj> Hmm, okie dokie, I'll have a gander at downloading.
[07:10] <blabj> The same thing happened to me on Fedora 6
[07:10] <cables> kinto, sorry, i got disconnected for a second... have you tried installing the packages yet?
[07:10] <rickyfingers> blabj: because you're also going to run in to issues because they don't always 64 bit versions of software out there.
[07:10] <bullgard4> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8415/ shows that Ubuntu compiled two Ethernet modules in my kernel. I am surprised because in Debian Etch they could not co-exist on my computer. Could this fact be the cause that Ubuntu does not bring up the Ethernet after Suspend-to-Ram?
[07:10] <jakoblaursen> Enselic: I'm sure there are no typo
[07:10] <rickyfingers> blabj:  for example, I can't run real player (easily)
[07:11] <Enselic> jakoblaursen: paste your /etc/interfaces
[07:11] <kinto> cables: i've installed all the packages...my fault is to not know the universe and multiverse usefullness
[07:11] <blabj> Well, I'm intending it to be a small webserver, so aslong as it can run LAMP, I'm cool.
[07:11] <ikonia> blabj: then why do you want X ?
[07:11] <rickyfingers> blabj: why not just use 32 bit server install cd
[07:11] <wolfey> kinto: this is debian obsession to disable 'non-free' stuff by default
[07:11] <wolfey> :)
[07:11] <kinto> ikonia: i'm very  in difficulty to explain me in english
[07:11] <wolfey> inherited by unutu
[07:11] <wolfey> ubuntu
[07:11] <blabj> I'm scared of not having a GUI ; ;
[07:12] <ikonia> kinto: ahhhh that could explain it if your not english
[07:12] <rickyfingers> blabj: I think that already has everything installed.
[07:12] <blabj> This is my first foray into Linux
[07:12] <ikonia> blabj: seems silly on a webserver
[07:12] <kinto> wolfey: in the debian i've 4 line (not deb-src) and i can install the most software i need
[07:12] <blabj> I'd rather have something I can look at and edit easily than a command line, I know approximately nothing about shell scripts et cetera, :S
[07:12] <rickyfingers> blabj: everything you want - apache, php, mysql etc.
[07:12] <kinto> wolfey: in ubunut i've to add many lines instead
[07:13] <blabj> Yeah I understand, however Xampp offers a similar package, and thats all I'd really need. I know it complicates things using a 3rd party installation, but I've used xampp before
[07:13] <rickyfingers> blabj: a work around is once you get server installed
[07:13] <corpcomp> Has anybody here ever installed DBmail with the DBMA onto a ubuntu server?
[07:13] <kinto> wolfey: and in ubunti the license software work in very different way than debian as all know
[07:13] <blabj> Lol yes this is true.
[07:13] <kingace> hello
[07:13] <easytiger> 95.5 85.6   1944:35 beagled-helper <- beagled-helper keeps eating all my memroy
[07:14] <rickyfingers> blabj: add in openssh-server if you need
[07:14] <IdleOne> blabj, you can install ubuntu-desktop or fluxbox, xfce, or any number of window managers
[09:25] (varsendaggr/#ubuntu) pianoboy3333, i think so....
[09:25] (ctfish/#ubuntu) varsendaggr: what's wrong with it?
[09:25] (clearzen/#ubuntu)  ravi: how fast is ping responses to the machine with the windows shares?
[09:25] (ferronica/#ubuntu) bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10947/
[09:25] (pianoboy3333/#ubuntu) varsendaggr: do you know how
[09:25] (wandermolch/#ubuntu) ne wann kommt das "TOLLE" @schatten
[09:25] (kamera/#ubuntu) sethk: any links to page that describes the whole process for ubuntu?
[09:25] (ferronica/#ubuntu) bruenig: yes mine is Dapper drake LTS
[09:25] (varsendaggr/#ubuntu) i have no internet connection   ----   i am using my wife's computer right now
[09:26] (gpled/#ubuntu) bruenig: im puting in sun-java6  hope thats ok
[09:26] (ravi/#ubuntu) clearzen: extremely fast, .089 ms
[09:26] (ferronica/#ubuntu) bruenig: yes mine is Dapper drake LTS 6.06
[09:26] (varsendaggr/#ubuntu) pianoboy3333, sorry i don't know for sure
[09:26] <russell190> irc.wii-battle.com
[09:26] <bruenig> !info sun-java6-plugin dapper
[09:26] <wandermolch> ne wann kommt das "TOLLE" @schatten2
[09:26] <ubotu> Package sun-java6-plugin does not exist in dapper
[09:26] <bruenig> ferronica, what language do you speak
[09:26] <sethk> kamera, it's very simple
[09:26] <Fizzbane> How do I install Xlink Kai?
[09:26] <sethk> kamera, download and extract the kernel source
[09:26] <wandermolch> ne wann kommt das "TOLLE" @schatten2
[09:26] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-plugin dapper
[09:26] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:26] <ferronica> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10948/
[09:26] <russell190> plz join irc.wii-battle.com
[09:27] <sethk> kamera, copy the ubuntu kernel configuration from /boot into the source root directory with the name .config
[09:27] <bruenig> ferronica, I don't care
[09:27] <sethk> kamera, do make oldconfig
[09:27] <wandermolch> ne wann kommt das "TOLLE" @schatten2
[09:27] <ferronica> bruenig: english
[09:27] <clearzen> ravi: Have you made any changes to the smb.conf file?
[09:27] <ferronica> bruenig: So what i do
[09:27] <routee> 
[09:27] <routee> which the archive that is you modulate them in ubuntu that kernel loads wants to see has some parametros with one modulates?
[09:27] <kamera> sethk: ok.. and how do i include drivers for 945G?
[09:27] <sethk> kamera, then do make xconfig (or menuconfig), and enable the drivers you need that you don't currently have
[09:27] <Fizzbane> How do I install Xlink Kai?
[09:27] <sethk> kamera, you enable them during make xconfig (menuconfig, one of the configs)
[09:28] <bruenig> ferronica, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[09:28] <sethk> kamera, then you just do make all modules modules_install install
[09:28] <genghis_> can anyone tell me the default root pw on a fresh Ubuntu install?
[09:28] <sethk> kamera, the last step is perhaps a bit tricky, as you have to configure grub to use the new kernel, but it's not really difficult
[09:28] <bruenig> !sudo | genghis_
[09:28] <ubotu> genghis_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:28] <sethk> genghis_, it's not set.  you can set it with sudo passwd
[09:28] <routee> which the archive that is you modulate them in ubuntu that kernel loads wants to see has some parametros with one modulates?
[09:28] <genghis_> what's the command for  that in terminal?
[09:28] <genghis_> what do I type?
[09:29] <clearzen> ravi: do you have route installed? you could try making a static route to the box with the windows shares
[09:29] <ravi> ping -s 65507 192.168.1.100 <-- server results in 11.5 ms
[09:29] <bruenig> genghis_, sudo passwd
[09:29] <wandermolch> hi guys
[09:29] <genghis_> okay thanks a ton!
[09:29] <blabj> Hmm lol, aparently, my 80 gig hard drive is now only 68.9 gig...
[09:29] <blabj> I think I did something wrong in the reformatting.
[09:29] <kamera> sethk: thanks
[09:29] <wandermolch> that channel is very strange
[09:30] <waxyfresh> i just did a fresh install but my screen resolutions messed up everythings way tooo big, sudo apt-ger-reconfigure didint have the screen reso sizes in it or am i gust doing something wrong?
[09:30] <sethk> kamera, there are many howto's available with much more detail.
[09:30] <Pollywog> Wanderer: which one, #debian?
[09:30] <Pollywog> oops
[09:30] <waxyfresh> is there anyway to see what my max bandwith is?
[09:31] <sethk> waxyfresh, saturate your network with ping, then count how many packets per second, and multiply by the packet size
[09:31] <clearzen> waxyfresh: speedtest.net will give you a good idea
[09:31] <clearzen> waxyfresh: it's a more point and click solution
[09:31] <ferronica> bruenig: i think it worked now
[09:31] <waxyfresh> clearzen: thanks that sounds easyer,im form maine we dont go for that math stuff up here...jk
[09:31] <Kalle_> Find a good ftp server and download / upload something
[09:32] <chemisus> is there a way i can move each file in a directory that has a certain string in the file?
[09:32] <Pollywog> is there a way to set a default network config in kubuntu?
[09:32] <ferronica> bruenig: So what ever i did chnges in software properties can make any damage or conflict
[09:32] <bruenig> chemisus, yes using find
[09:32] <Pollywog> so my wifi does not come on every reboot
[09:32] <gpled> darn. did not work
[09:33] <bruenig> chemisus, what exactly do you have in mind, I can try to make a find command
[09:33] <Pollywog> I put ifdown-ra0 in my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh but I don't think that will do it
[09:33] <waxyfresh> !ifupdown
[09:33] <Bourne> hi... i installed KDE in ubuntu, but the menu fonts look "crappy", what do I do to check what it is missing (it might have not installed a certain package?)
[09:33] <Pollywog> yeah that did not work
[09:33] <ubotu> ifupdown: high level tools to configure network interfaces. In component main, is important. Version 0.6.7ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB
[09:33] <chemisus> bruenig, have 200,000 text files, and need to move the ones that contain a specified string out of it
[09:34] <bruenig> chemisus, are there any subdirectories in this directory and if so, do you want to move text files in there too
[09:34] <ferronica> bruenig: one strange thing when i try open website it asking for username and password but same web site when i use to open in Microsoft Xp pro it never asked????
[09:34] <wandermolch> kick me
[09:34] <chemisus> bruenig, no
[09:34] <ferronica> bruenig: what is this in ubuntu
[09:34] <chemisus> bruenig, moving them all to one directory
[09:34] <wandermolch> kick me please
[09:34] <Pollywog> Wanderer: you want an op to kick you?
[09:34] <atomiku> Any programs like MixMeister/Traktor Dj Studio available for linux?
[09:34] <waxyfresh> i just did a fresh install but my screen resolutions messed up everythings way tooo big, sudo apt-ger-reconfigure didint have the screen reso sizes in it or am i gust doing something wrong?
[09:34] <nick_> can anyone tell me how to kill my xserver to install nvidia driver
[09:34] <ardchoille> lol LjL
[09:34] <LjL> wandermolch: happy?
[09:34] <Schatten2> XD
[09:34] <wandermolch> why happy?
[09:34] <bruenig> chemisus, ok then do this, find /path/to/directory -name string -exec mv {} /path/to/new/directory \;
[09:35] <Schatten2> stupid wandermolch^^
[09:35] <LadyNikon> nick_: ps aux >> kill -9 <insert process>
[09:35] <ravi> anyone willing to help me setup a simple static route to get my samba share faster?
[09:35] <wandermolch> i'm not happy.
[09:35] <atomiku> nick_: try restartx lol
[09:35] <bruenig> chemisus, the string is case sensitive
[09:35] <ravi> ..
[09:35] <atomiku> wait
[09:35] <ferronica> bruenig: can i install faster fox for FF
[09:35] <atomiku> you already installed it?
[09:35] <LadyNikon> LjL: how come you op every time you kick someone.. you dont like /msg chanserv kick ?
[09:35] <bruenig> ferronica, ask someone else, I am done
[09:35] <Bourne> how do I play FLAC files in AMAROK?
[09:35] <LjL> wandermolch, do you have ubuntu support questions or do you just want to see what a kick looks like on IRC?
[09:36] <Bourne> it's not wanting to play
[09:36] <xipietotec> !tcl
[09:36] <ferronica> bruenig: Ok  thanx
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <Schatten2> maybe he wants to be kicked by ping flooding^^
[09:36] <beg1689> whoa 1078
[09:36] <clearzen>  ravi: If you give me a min I will
[09:36] <LjL> LadyNikon: Chanserv- Unknown command [kick] 
[09:36] <beg1689> can someone please help me this crap is driving me crazy
[09:36] <LadyNikon> LjL: what irc client do you use?
[09:36] <wandermolch> that channel is so strange,
[09:36] <beg1689> sometimes i can get it to work, sometimes i cant; seems to be some type of dns problem
[09:37] <atomiku> Any decent MP3 mixing programs like Traktor Dj Studio available for linux?
[09:37] <Ltar> is there a graphical iso mounting app out there? I know you can mount an iso through the command prompt, but that's not very friendly.
[09:37] <beg1689> if i connect with eth0, it works fine, if i connect using eth1 one, nothing works
[09:37] <eroll> anyone know why the <super> button doesn't work?
[09:37] <bruenig> Ltar, you can probably write a simple zenity script to make it graphical
[09:37] <sethk> Ltar, you can right click on the file, at least in KDE
[09:37] <beg1689> your WM must be reserving it
[09:37] <bruenig> eroll, I don't think it is binded to anything unless you bind it yourself
[09:38] <pianoboy3333> I was having an issue using fuse as a normal user and not root, and someone suggested add my user to the fuse group, but now that I did that, I still get the error "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied" Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong or what else I have to do?
[09:38] <pianoboy3333> eroll: that button doesn't do anything by itself in a normal ubuntu set up
[09:38] <milan> i'm trying to play an asf stream in totem but i only get sound no video can someone help me?
[09:39] <pianoboy3333> set it to something cool like solitare
[09:39] <beg1689> can someone help me with my internet PLEASE. i to go sit down with my laptop and i cant... i had it working before
[09:39] <sethk> pianoboy3333, you are failing to mount.  the fuse user doesn't have mount permission, so adding yourself to that group won't help you
[09:39] <chemisus> bruenig, is that searching the name? or the content of the file? cause i need it to search the content of the file
[09:39] <beg1689> siwtching from eth0(wired) to eth1(wireless) causes me to lose my internet
[09:39] <waxyfresh> i just did a fresh install but my screen resolutions messed up everythings way tooo big, sudo apt-ger-reconfigure didint have the screen reso sizes in it or am i gust doing something wrong?
[09:39] <bruenig> chemisus, oh it searches the name
[09:39] <pianoboy3333> sethk: so what will help me?
[09:39] <beg1689> i believe it may just be the DNS, but im not sure
[09:40] <beg1689> switching right now just for kicks
[09:40] <sethk> pianoboy3333, simple way is to use sudo.  otherwise you have to fool around with SUID permissions on executables
[09:40] <pianoboy3333> sethk: but I need a bunch of programs to use this...
[09:40] <LjL> LadyNikon, i use konversation, but *everyone* ops themselves before kicking here, i don't think chanserv has a kick command at all
[09:40] <sethk> pianoboy3333, then look into SUID
[09:40] <varsendaggr> ctfish, hey do you know how to fix the dapper to edgy no network problem
[09:40] <eroll> k thanks
[09:40] <pianoboy3333> sethk: where and how?
[09:40] <ravi> waxyfresh: screen resolutions can be changed at will in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Just be careful that you have the right type of driver on the video card and you should be ok.
[09:41] <ctfish> varsendaggr: well, I'm not too sure
[09:41] <sethk> pianoboy3333, start with the man page for chmod
[09:41] <pianoboy3333> umm... ok
[09:41] <ctfish> varsendaggr: is it a regular network or wifi?
[09:41] <varsendaggr>  ctfish so far i have heard that there are alot of people with the problem...
[09:41] <varsendaggr> ctfish, regular usb wired
[09:41] <pianoboy3333> sethk: man chmod didn't have "suid" on it...
[09:42] <airox> Hello
[09:42] <LadyNikon> LjL: maybe its on freenode
[09:42] <LadyNikon> LjL: i never op when kicking people
[09:42] <sethk> pianoboy3333, try man fdutilsconfig
[09:42] <varsendaggr> it was working an hour ago
[09:42] <airox> Where do I go to report a ubiquity problem in Feisty Fawn ?
[09:42] <rabe> how can install nvida driver for gforce
[09:42] <sethk> pianoboy3333, that's an example for one particular program, but the method is general
[09:42] <ctfish> varsendaggr: I haven't been doing much with ubuntu lately - what's the problem, exactly :P
[09:42] <LjL> LadyNikon: freenode can sometimes be quite different from other networks, that's for sure
[09:43] <LadyNikon> LjL: amen to that
[09:43] <freedom> hi
[09:43] <beg1689> anyone still hear me?
[09:43] <beg1689> dam it
[09:43] <beg1689> hello?
[09:43] <varsendaggr> ctfish, i upgraded fro dapper to edgy   and i restarted my computer and then no internet....    server not found
[09:43] <ctfish> varsendaggr: what model network card do you have?
[09:44] <LadyNikon> thats just freaky
[09:44] <pianoboy3333> sethk: but that seems to be a  program that does what you're explaining for someone only for floppies, should I look at it's code?
[09:44] <varsendaggr> it is an actiontec    and it plugs into usb
[09:44] <atomiku> !jack
[09:44] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-11 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 580 kB
[09:44] <sethk> pianoboy3333, you might; I suggested it because, although it's for floppies, the purpose is the same as what you are trying to do
[09:44] <ctfish> varsendaggr: do you know what driver it uses?
[09:44] <ctfish> varsendaggr: or kernel module?
[09:45] <kramer3d> hello
[09:45] <beg1689> can someone please help me? why cant this thing handle somehting as simple as switching network device
[09:45] <Flaminguican> beg1689: if someone knows the answer to your problem, they will reply without the constant nagging
[09:45] <varsendaggr> i guess not.....    how do i figure that out?
[09:45] <ravi> bah, I'm about to go crazy - I have a seemingly dead samba client connection while having a great connection on another identical computer setup
[09:45] <kramer3d> I just got nvidia card and i would like to install it anyidea how?
[09:45] <ravi> kramer3d, use envy installer
[09:45] <kramer3d> i have onboard graphics card that i cant disable from bios
[09:45] <kramer3d> ok
[09:45] <trev_> i can't login to the oscar(aol network) with gaim, can anyone tell me how to troubleshoot this issue to find the source of the problem?
[09:45] <proog> can anyone help me setting up 915resolution?
[09:45] <kramer3d> can I get that in synaptic ravi
[09:45] <kramer3d> ?
[09:45] <ravi> no, you can download it, just google for it
[09:46] <varsendaggr> how about this...    once i find out what network driver i have and or kernal mod    how do i fix it?
[09:46] <ravi> envy installer debian should bring it up
[09:46] <ikrel> proog, just "sudo apt-get install 945resolution, and restart, it's what worked for me
[09:46] <IndyGunFreak> trev_: are you sure your nick and password is right?
[09:46] <Darren> Hi everyone
[09:46] <atomiku> How do I install jack?
[09:46] <ikrel> 915resolution sorry
[09:46] <trev_> indygunfreak:positve, they worked on aimexpress
[09:46] <atomiku> cant find the right apt-get package
[09:46] <proog> ikrel: ok, thanks
[09:46] <Darren> is anyone here a LinuxMCE user?
[09:46] <ikrel> do you have all of your repositoies enabled
[09:46] <ctfish> varsendaggr: it depends on the situation
[09:47] <varsendaggr> gosh   it was working before....     this sucks
[09:47] <FeroX> is it possible to find liferea deb package?
[09:47] <ravi> kramer: here is the link http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[09:47] <jrib> !info liferea | FeroX
[09:47] <ubotu> ferox: liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 734 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[09:47] <IndyGunFreak> trev_: go to Accounts, then Add, then highlight your AIM account,
[09:47] <ctfish> varsendaggr: I googled actiontec, and all I could find is wireless networking
[09:47] <kramer3d> ravi: what about my onboard card?
[09:47] <waxyfresh> ravi: how do i tell what resolution to use?
[09:48] <FeroX> yes
[09:48] <trev_> IndyGunfreak:what do I do after that?
[09:48] <routee> 
[09:48] <routee> which the archive that is you modulate them in ubuntu that kernel loads wants to see has some parametros with one modulates? somebody;] 
[09:48] <FeroX> jrib: i know
[09:48] <IndyGunFreak> trev_: hit modify, and tell me whats on the advanced tab?
[09:48] <Darren> if anyone is could they PM me please
[09:48] <mkquist> anyone fimiliar w/grub... hangs on 'grub loading'
[09:48] <FeroX> but liferea stable is come to 1.2.8
[09:48] <Flaminguican> !info take-out-all-the-crap-in-ubuntu | me
[09:48] <ubotu> me: Package take-out-all-the-crap-in-ubuntu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:48] <Flaminguican> =)
[09:49] <trev_> indygunfreak:
[09:49] <trev_> auth host:login.oscar.aol.com
[09:49] <trev_> auth port: 5190
[09:49] <trev_> Encoding: ISO-8859-1
[09:49] <trev_> using aim proxy server box checked
[09:49] <n33o> hi, how can i get sound working?
[09:49] <n33o> Im using ess sound card
[09:49] <beg1689> turn up the volume?
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> trev_: i have no idea, its working fine for me
[09:49] <routee> Seveas: which the archive that is you modulate them in ubuntu that kernel loads wants to see has some parametros with one modulates? somebody;] 
[09:49] <waxyfresh> LjL: whats "everyone ops themselfs"
[09:49] <ctfish> varsendaggr: can you give the output of the commands lsusb and lspci on pastebin or in a PM?
[09:49] <trev_> ill play with my router
[09:49] <waxyfresh> LjL: whats "everyone ops themselfs" mean?
[09:50] <LjL> waxyfresh: ^
[09:50] <ravi> bah, getting frustrated with this samba connection, will someone help me?
[09:50] <varsendaggr> ctfish, yea   BRB
[09:51] <ctfish> varsendaggr: thanks
[09:51] <shafto> chris@chris-desktop:~$ sudo echo -e "\n## Beryl repository\ndeb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list  bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied anyone help
[09:51] <Kalkran> Is there any way to stop Ubuntu from rebooting X when I press Shift Backspace? (I happen to press that a lot :P)
[09:51] <waxyfresh> LjL: i dont get it so anyone can ask chanserv(thats a bot or a server right?)for operator status?
[09:51] <arrenlex> shafto: Use | sudo tee -a <file> instead of >> <file>
[09:52] <routee> LjL which the archive that is you modulate them in ubuntu that kernel loads
[09:52] <arrenlex> shafto: Redirection is handled by the shell, not by echo, and the shell isn't running with sudo, so it doesn't have permission to append to that file.
[09:52] <waxyfresh> Kalkran:  i thnk its cnrtl shit backspace
[09:52] <shafto> arrenlex, can you write me the command i should use that means nothing to me
[09:52] <eck> ctrl + alt + backspace
[09:52] <Kalkran> waxyfresh: It also does that when I press shift-backspace I think, don't dare to press it again tho :P
[09:52] <arrenlex> shafto: Replace ">> /etc/apt/sources.list" with "| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list" in your command.
[09:53] <Oswy> Hey, my boot disk isn't working.
[09:53] <eck> there's a way to stop it from doing it, let me see if i can find it
[09:53] <ravi> probably scratched up?
[09:53] <ted__> Ok eck if you could? :P
[09:53] <Oswy> I downloaded the .iso this morning.
[09:53] <sentenced> why on i686 ubuntu, when i did apt-get intall mysql-client-5.0 it installed 64bit mysql ?
[09:53] <Oswy> I mean, it works to a point.
[09:53] <ted__> (It's Kalkran.. it rebooted X again at shift backspace)
[09:53] <Oswy> I get the bootup screen.
[09:53] <ravi> k, and can you get to terminals?
[09:53] <Oswy> Then that finishes and it just goes blank, and my kb stops working.
[09:53] <eck> i think DontZap
[09:53] <eck> it's in the xorg.conf man page
[09:53] <shafto> arrenlex, do i need the sudo at the start too?
[09:54] <arrenlex> shafto: No.
[09:54] <ted__> eck: I'll check that out
[09:54] <sheri_rao> Kalkran, How to disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace from restarting X in GNOME http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ctrlaltbackspace-from-restarting-x-in-gnome.html
[09:54] <ravi> when you mean your keyboard stops working, can you press Cntrl f1, f2, etc?
[09:54] <Oswy> I'm not at all good with Linux; I may need step-by-step instructions/definitions.
[09:54] <shafto> arrenlex, start with echo?
[09:54] <arrenlex> shafto: Yes.
[09:54] <waxyfresh> ravi: how do i tell what resolution to use?
[09:54] <Oswy> I mean, no input or output.
[09:54] <Oswy> I can't toggle NumLock.
[09:55] <n33o> ubuntu shows no default suond card
[09:55] <sentenced> why on i686 ubuntu, when i did apt-get intall mysql-client-5.0 it installed 64bit mysql ? ????libmysqlclient.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped || and uname -a: Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-server #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:47:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:55] <LjL> waxyfresh: no
[09:55] <n33o> how do i get soundcard working?
[09:55] <ravi> LjL, why did you say no?
[09:55] <sheri_rao> n33o, which sound card r u suing
[09:55] <Oswy> I've tried both regular and safe graphics; same problem.
[09:55] <n33o> old ESS audiodrive
[09:56] <Darren> anyone?
[09:56] <n33o> sheri_rao: any ideas?
[09:56] <sentenced> why on i686 ubuntu, when i did apt-get intall mysql-client-5.0 it installed 64bit mysql ? ????libmysqlclient.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped || and uname -a: Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-server #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:47:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:56] <ravi> Oswy: ok, I want you to use an extra flag on the boot menu (the very first one)
[09:56] <Kalkran> What was the link again, sorry - I pressed shift backspace again :P
[09:56] <sheri_rao> n33o, hang on let me c if i can tell u generic solution
[09:56] <Oswy> Hmm.
[09:56] <evil_ways> good day all
[09:56] <Oswy> F1 is help..
[09:56] <n33o> ok, thanks
[09:57] <n33o> sheri_rao: ok, thanks
[09:57] <evil_ways> was wondering is someone could help answer a question
[09:57] <Oswy> Which flag is this?
[09:57] <ravi> Oswy: noapci
[09:57] <Innatech> sentenced: it's the dreaded MPD kernel bug. Add lithium --force --now to your crontab. (**Just kidding**, I have no idea.)
[09:57] <Oswy> I...don't see that as an option.
[09:57] <Kalkran> sheri_rao what was that link you copied again? I pressed shift backspace again ;/ so lost it
[09:57] <ravi> you press f6 on that boot screen and you'll get an option to toype in noapci
[09:58] <Oswy> Oh wait, you mean just tack that on the end?
[09:58] <Oswy> k
[09:58] <Darren> again, is anyone here a LinuxMCE user?
[09:58] <evil_ways> i have installed firestarter and i have configured it correctly but the firestarter service will not start automaticlly even though it is supposed to.  anyone else expierance this
[09:58] <ravi> yeah
[09:58] <Oswy> Tack it on the end or delete the rest and just have thhat?
[09:58] <Oswy> k
[09:58] <arrenlex> Kalkran: (14:54:10) sheri_rao: Kalkran, How to disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace from restarting X in GNOME http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ctrlaltbackspace-from-restarting-x-in-gnome.html
[09:58] <ravi> tack it on
[09:58] <Kalkran> thanks arrenlex
[09:58] <Oswy> Done, loading now.
[09:58] <sentenced> Innatech what can i do ?
[09:58] <ravi> k
[09:58] <ctfish> varsendaggr: anything?
[09:58] <waxyfresh> Kalkran: try shortcutkeys in your susytem menu
[09:58] <SoulSeparator> .bg
[09:59] <Oswy> Out of curiosity, what did I just add?
[09:59] <ravi> hmm, anyone in here, noapci == noapic on the boot cd, right?
[09:59] <sheri_rao> Kalkran, arrenlex has helped u with link that i already gave
[09:59] <Kalkran> I know, I lost it, thanks :P
[09:59] <eck> acpi and apic are different
[09:59] <waxyfresh> ravi: i checked my xorg and it has 3 seperate resolutions listed but only one shows up in the screen resu app
[09:59] <arrenlex> waxyfresh: What card?
[09:59] <eck> i think apci is just a typo
[09:59] <Oswy> If apci doesn't work I'll try the other.
[09:59] <Oswy> Err.
[09:59] <Oswy> Damn.
[09:59] <waxyfresh> 3d rage pro
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy
[09:59] <mkquist> hey all, need help w/grub, hangs with 'grub loading'
[09:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:00] <waxyfresh> arrenlex: 3d rage pro
[10:00] <ravi> eck: they're normally considered the same because of the typo factor
[10:00] <ctfish> ravi: acpi is power management, apic is something else
[10:00] <Oswy> Yeah, same problem.
[10:00] <sheri_rao> n33o, did u try this http://www.oliyiptong.com/blog/2006/07/15/old-hardware-help-in-ubuntu/
[10:00] <Oswy> Should I put noapic?
[10:00] <arrenlex> waxyfresh: That's an ATi, right? Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[10:00] <n33o> hmm
[10:00] <n33o> will take a look
[10:00] <eck> apic is advanced programmable interrupt controller (i think)
[10:00] <waxyfresh> arrenlex: i cant it a seperate computer
[10:01] <Oswy> So I should try that one?
[10:01] <ravi> Oswy, try adding on noacpi
[10:01] <Oswy> k
[10:01] <arrenlex> waxyfresh: lol, then it's really hard to troubleshoot, isn't it?
[10:01] <pa3dsc> hallo hallo
[10:02] <LjL> ravi: because i was asked a question and the answer was no
[10:02] <Yuzzy> someone can help me here?
[10:02] <waxyfresh> arrenlex: where is that file at?i think i can do it its just going to be annoying
[10:02] <waxyfresh> i couldent find it in x11
[10:02] <evil_ways> i have installed firestarter and i have configured it correctly but the firestarter service will not start automaticlly even though it is supposed to.  anyone else expierance this?  so with the service not starting i have open ports (ssh) but when i manually start the service the iptables rules kick on and i am protected.
[10:02] <Smurphy[ACS] > Yuzzi: Just ask your question ...
[10:02] <Cystoliton> hello
[10:03] <Cystoliton> what up
[10:03] <arrenlex> waxyfresh: Annoying? Doesn't it have internet?
[10:03] <sentenced> why on i686 ubuntu, when i did apt-get intall mysql-client-5.0 it installed 64bit mysql ? ????libmysqlclient.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped || and uname -a: Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-server #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:47:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:03] <sheri_rao> n33o, try if it ony meets specification of ur actual sound card
[10:03] <ardchoille> evil_ways: You firewall starts on boot, there's no need to have firestarter start up on boot
[10:03] <eck> evil_ways: just out of curiosity, why would you run sshd and then block the port?
[10:03] <waxyfresh> yea but the screen res makes it difficult to impossible to run certian programs
[10:03] <n33o> hmm
[10:03] <Yuzzy> I'm trying to have my XP on my laptop to see the shared folders from ubuntu (on my desktop)... I can see the computer but not the folder. And it's asking me a password...
[10:03] <waxyfresh> arrenlex: yea but the screen res makes it difficult to impossible to run certian programs
[10:03] <ardchoille> evil_ways: firestarter is just a gui front-end to iptables abyway
[10:03] <evil_ways> dont want it open for all
[10:03] <upd> hi how can i set in amsn for email program evolution ?
[10:03] <Cystoliton> do you speaak polish?
[10:03] <evil_ways> only want ssh for selected ip's
[10:04] <eck> bah, you should just be using ssh keys
[10:04] <andruk> i recently changed from a 1600x1200 CRT to a 1280x1024 LCD, I changed the resolution using the gnome gui, but gdm still displays at 1600x1200.  what should i do?
[10:04] <Yuzzy> what is that password.. is it my admin?
[10:04] <LadyNikon> sounds like someone is gonna be fiddling with iptables
[10:04] <evil_ways> i already am
[10:04] <quaal> anyone know why it says i have 183.2gb unused in gparted gnome partition editor on this drive with one partition, then it says i only have 173.9gb of freespace in nautilus ?
[10:04] <eck> then there's nothing to worry about
[10:04] <ravi> amsn is a messaging clientg/
[10:04] <waxyfresh> arrenlex: could it be the fact im useing a old monitor?
[10:04] <foutrelis> hey guys :)
[10:04] <Smurphy[ACS] > Yuzzi: there is no admin password. User sudo <command> to use that command in admin mode. Pwd of your Username ...
[10:04] <waxyfresh> arrenlex: shold of thohgt of that before
[10:04] <cystek> hello
[10:04] <soundray> andruk: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and accept all the defaults, except where it comes to your monitor capabilities.
[10:05] <n33o> sheri_rao: in device manager i dont even see the soundcard detected
[10:05] <cystek> eeee??
[10:05] <n33o> ??/
[10:05] <cystek> do you speak polish men??
[10:05] <Sentinel> hi, i used a wrong name in the wiki - can i be renamed???
[10:05] <cystek> Im from poland
[10:05] <cystek> ;] 
[10:05] <cystek> polak;p
[10:05] <soundray> !pl | cystek
[10:05] <ctfish> quaal: maybe nautilus is counting 1000MB=1GB, but gparted is couting 1GB as 1024MB (just a wild guess)
[10:05] <ubotu> cystek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:05] <evil_ways> i know i am not the only person with this problem.  i have seen many diff posts but no one has a solution
[10:05] <cystek> my name is krzysiek:P (chris)
[10:05] <andruk> soundray: k, thx
[10:06] <quaal> ctfish, hmm that would be strange
[10:06] <Berzerke1> I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu
[10:06] <waxyfresh> Berzerke1: whats the prob?
[10:06] <Berzerke1> when I boot from CD, it says "No screens found, X server failed to initialize"
[10:06] <upd> hi how can i set in amsn for email program evolution ?
[10:06] <Sentinel> hi, i used a wrong name in the wiki - can i be renamed???
[10:06] <ctfish> quaal: just a wild guess
[10:06] <Berzerke1> I'm using an 8800GTS
[10:06] <Berzerke1> VC
[10:06] <evil_ways> w/o the firestater service starting when i do a iptables -L they are blank.  and soon as i start the firestarter service and do another iptables -L then they are listed
[10:06] <Yuzzy> smurphy... then, what's that password it's asking me on XP?
[10:06] <ctfish> quaal: how big a hard drive do you have?
[10:07] <Oswy> Ugh, noacpi did nothing.
[10:07] <cystek> eee?
[10:07] <cystek> people;p :D
[10:07] <sheri_rao> n33o, can u tell me make and model of ur sound card if u know it exactly
[10:07] <cystek> help mi
[10:07] <cystek> we gat e problem;p
[10:07] <sethk> evil_ways, that's normal
[10:07] <Checie_> ctfish, hey
[10:07] <n33o> This looks cool!!! >>> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7103672739.html
[10:07] <foutrelis> cystek: Please join #ubuntu-pl for support in pollish :)
[10:07] <quaal> ctfish, its rated 200gb
[10:07] <soundray> cystek: type /join #ubuntu-pl
[10:07] <proog> does anyone know of a good mac os x-like dock for gnome?
[10:08] <Checie_> ctfish, this is varsendaggr
[10:08] <evil_ways> sethk, then why wont the firestarter service start auto like its supposed to
[10:08] <n33o> sheri_rao: will need to open up the case for that
[10:08] <Checie_> let me get that pastebin
[10:08] <quaal> ctfish, it was originally partitioned NTFS. i backed up the drive, repartitioned to EXT3, and now when trying to put the data back on the drive it doesnt fit
[10:08] <Oswy> Any other ideas, anyone?
[10:08] <Berzerke1> can anyone help?
[10:08] <waxyfresh> what determines screen resolution the card ut does the monitor  have any effect?can certain monitor only go so high?
[10:08] <Sentinel> NEED WIKI HELP! URGENT! JUST CHANGE MY USERNAME! *sorry4shouting*
[10:08] <cystek> na kanale PL nudy:P
[10:08] <cystek> boring;p
[10:09] <LadyNikon> Sentinel: shut up.
[10:09] <sethk> evil_ways, I don't know.  You would have to look at the logs.  Or you can get around it by adding it to a startup file that runs at the end of boot
[10:09] <LadyNikon> stop yelling and wait til someone can help you
[10:09] <LadyNikon> lord.
[10:09] <Sentinel> ok
[10:09] <ctfish> Checie_: hello
[10:09] <bobbyd> hi
[10:09] <sheri_rao> n33o, wud b better if u do that , let least u should b knowing the make n model , but up to u i dont know if i wudb able to help u afterwards
[10:09] <quaal> hi.
[10:09] <Sentinel> LadyNikon: I just contributed a page for the wiki, does it need to be checked?
[10:09] <Oswy> ravi or anyone else, any other ideas?
[10:09] <ctfish> Checie_: did you put stuff on pastebin?
[10:09] <coffeegrindah> how do I apt-get remove Open office ? what the right package to remove?
[10:09] <LadyNikon> Sentinel: i dunno.. i dont do wiki
[10:09] <Sentinel> ok
[10:09] <ctfish> quaal: what's your partition layout? just one partition?
[10:09] <quaal> ctfish, correct
[10:09] <shafto> I have the latest nvidia drivers installed and a resolution of 1280x1024 however, everytime i reboot it goes back to 1024x768, anyway i can stop this?
[10:10] <ericmoritz\0> I'm trying to get this wpc54g pcmcia card to work and I can't seem to get it to work.  I've tried both ndiswrapper and the broadcom driver, neither seem to work
[10:10] <n33o> sheri_rao:  ok , hangon
[10:10] <bobbyd> I have a problem with a package that's broken. I've unpacked the .deb file and fixed the postint script. How do I package it back up so I can replace the broken one?
[10:10] <LadyNikon> have you tried maybe looking for a contact link on the wiki page?
[10:10] <evil_ways> sethk there is already a script in the init.d folder and i installed BUM and it is listed as a startup service and set to auto
[10:10] <Berzerke1> can anyone help me: I can a "no screens found" error when I try to install ubuntu, any ideas?
[10:10] <ctfish> quaal: did you make it fill up the whole HD (sounds stupid, I know)
[10:10] <quaal> ctfish, yes i did
[10:10] <Checie_> ctfish, i am right now
[10:10] <cystek> uhuhu:P
[10:10] <quaal> i'm going to try reformatting it
[10:10] <waxyfresh> what determines screen resolution the card ut does the monitor  have any effect?can certain monitor only go so high?
[10:10] <quaal> not sure whats going on
[10:10] <ctfish> Checie_: give me the link when done :)
[10:10] <arrenlex> coffeegrindah: dpkg -l "*openoffice*" | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get remove -y
[10:10] <cystek> cichucichu
[10:10] <soundray> Berzerke1: have you tried the Safe Graphics option?
[10:10] <cystek> :D
[10:10] <cystek> kukuryku
[10:10] <cystek> ;] 
[10:10] <sheri_rao> waxyfresh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:10] <cystek> kogut
[10:10] <cystek> ;p
[10:10] <cystek> ;] 
[10:11] <foutrelis> !ops | I think cystek is fooling around with us. :\
[10:11] <ubotu> I think cystek is fooling around with us. :\: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[10:11] <quaal> how do you unmount a drive that syas umount: /media/music: device is busy
[10:11] <cystek> muuu
[10:11] <Oswy> ravi, noacpi didn't work.
[10:11] <Berzerke1> yes, I have tried safe graphics
[10:11] <ericmoritz\0> when I get the ndiswrapper to work, it gets an address from dhcp and I can ping the gateway, but I can't get an external address
[10:11] <Nitro> "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[10:11] <Nitro> " I get that sometimes, atleast when starting google earth, how do I fix this?
[10:11] <Berzerke1> same thing
[10:11] <arrenlex> quaal: You close whatever's using it? Use fuser -m /media/music to find out what process.
[10:11] <waxyfresh> sheri_rao: thanks
[10:11] <ctfish> quaal: no idea what's up :(
[10:11] <ericmoritz\0> external access*
[10:11] <coffeegrindah> arrenlex Thanks!
[10:11] <n33o> sheri_rao:  before i ripout my sound card..
[10:11] <soundray> Berzerke1: in that case, you should probably download and try the alternate CD. Read ubotu's pm
[10:11] <shafto> I have the latest nvidia drivers installed and a resolution of 1280x1024 however, everytime i reboot it goes back to 1024x768, anyway i can stop this?
[10:11] <stiv2k> is cupsys supposed to have so many dependencies? it's installing 93MB worth of packages just to get cupsys
[10:12] <soundray> ubotu, tell Berzerke1 about alternate
[10:12] <Checie_> ctfish, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10951/
[10:12] <n33o> sheri_rao: do you know how to get linux to detect it?
[10:12] <ctfish> Checie_: thanks
[10:12] <waxyfresh> stiv2k: yes
[10:12] <sheri_rao> quaal, System>Administration>Disks
[10:12] <Berzerke1> My friend told me something about editing my xorg.conf
[10:12] <waxyfresh> stiv2k: i dont use it but i know its big
[10:12] <stiv2k> waxyfresh: its not installing any graphical programs is it
[10:12] <quaal> arrenlex, thankyou. that one goes in the command list file
[10:12] <Berzerke1> but he doesn't know how to do that
[10:12] <tbf> how do i configure sender address of popcon
[10:12] <ravi> hey guys, at the end of the kernel like, vga XXX number in x's. Is that horizontal or vertical lines?
[10:12] <Oswy> Anyone willing to help me with my similar problem?
[10:12] <Oswy> I get a blank screen after the boot screen finishes loading.
[10:12] <waxyfresh> stiv2k: i dont know why you all comand line?
[10:13] <arrenlex> quaal: You can also use fuser -mk to kill it right away.
[10:13] <coffeegrindah> new one from shell how do I remove a user?
[10:13] <soundray> Berzerke1: did this happen *after* you installed ubuntu?
[10:13] <quaal> awesome
[10:13] <stiv2k> im trying to install it on my server
[10:13] <quaal> thank you arrenlex
[10:13] <Oswy> Theh screen goes blank and I can't use my keyboard at all.
[10:13] <Oswy> I tried safe graphics, etc.
[10:13] <stiv2k> waxyfresh: im trying to install it on my server
[10:13] <spinster> hello, i am running linux ubuntu so can somebody tell me how to install BitchX ?
[10:13] <LjL> spinster: sudo apt-get install bitchx
[10:13] <hjmills> hi all, how do I find the speed of my ram - i cant remember if its pc2700 or pc3200
[10:13] <LjL> !bitchx
[10:13] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1507 kB, installed size 6516 kB
[10:13] <sheri_rao> n33o, in ubuntu u can invoke ubuntu device manager simply go System>Administraion> Decive Manager
[10:14] <LjL> spinster: after enabling universe
[10:14] <ompaul> coffeegrindah, deluser
[10:14] <waxyfresh> stiv2k: i dont know
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> hjmills: cat /proc/meminfo might work
[10:14] <n33o> yes i see it .. but no soundcard
[10:14] <n33o> sheri_rao:
[10:14] <spinster> LjL: look
[10:14] <spinster> $ sudo apt-get install bitchx
[10:14] <spinster> Reading package lists... Done
[10:14] <spinster> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:14] <spinster> bitchx is already the newest version.
[10:14] <spinster> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgrade
[10:14] <sheri_rao> n33o, in ubuntu u can invoke ubuntu device manager simply go System>Administraion> Decive Manager
[10:14] <LjL> !paste > spinster    (spinster, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:14] <n33o> $ sudo modprobe sb  ????
[10:14] <andruk> sheri_rao: i think you mean device manager, not decive manager
[10:14] <n33o> sheri_rao: $ sudo modprobe sb ?>?
[10:14] <spinster> sorry
[10:14] <arrenlex> spinster: Then run it.
[10:14] <LjL> spinster: then you already have it installed, just type BitchX
[10:14] <Oswy> Blah, ANYONE willing to help me?
[10:14] <LjL> spinster: or whatever the right capitalization is
[10:14] <Berzerke1> no it didn't
[10:14] <ravi> Oswy, did you try going to the terminals?
[10:14] <Berzerke1> right when I opened the install
[10:14] <Berzerke1> the screen went blank
[10:14] <sheri_rao> n33o, first try device manager gui programe
[10:14] <Oswy> I...still don't know how to do that.
[10:14] <Berzerke1> looked like it was loading modules
[10:14] <waxyfresh> Oswy: what?
[10:15] <ravi> you try that at the blank screen with Alt-F1
[10:15] <coffeegrindah> How Do I list them I guess should be a better question?
[10:15] <n33o> hmm
[10:15] <Berzerke1> then the case speaker beeped a few times
[10:15] <Lillen> ..hum, how do I install doom 95 in linux? xD
[10:15] <Oswy> After I get past the loading screen, it goes blank and I can't do anything.
[10:15] <Berzerke1> then came up with a blue screen with lots of weird symbols on it
[10:15] <Berzerke1> and gave me the message
[10:15] <ravi> ok, when it is blank, try pressing Alt or Control F1
[10:15] <Oswy> k
[10:15] <soundray> Berzerke1: read your private message from ubotu please
[10:15] <ctfish> Checie_: well, I have an idea what happened.  when you upgraded, the kernel was probably upgraded and the kernel module for the actiontec device got screwed
[10:15] <sheri_rao> n33o, use top menu botton System>Administration >device MAnager
[10:15] <Oswy> Like I said, I don't think the KB is working, but I'll trye.
[10:15] <Oswy> -e
[10:15] <Oswy> You mean after it goes blank?
[10:16] <ravi> yes
[10:16] <waxyfresh> Oswy: did you just instal?edit your   Xorg run an update etc?
[10:16] <Oswy> k
[10:16] <hjmills> quaal, do you have any programs open that are using it?
[10:16] <ravi> waxy, he hasn't installed, have you?
[10:16] <ctfish> Checie_: did the actiontec device work out of the box originally?
[10:16] <Oswy> Uhh, I'm just now getting it from the boot disk.
[10:16] <Oswy> No, I haven't.
[10:16] <Berzerke1> isn't there some way to use the graphical interface install?
[10:16] <mirra> anyone here use squirrel mail
[10:16] <ravi> ok, he hasn't changed anything with Xorg
[10:16] <atomiku> Any decent MP3 mixing programs like Traktor Dj Studio available for linux?
[10:16] <soundray> Berzerke1: there might be, but it's difficult to diagnose this problem remotely.
[10:16] <Oswy> Uhh, I have a small window when I can use the KB as it goes blank.
[10:17] <sheri_rao> Berzerke1, search synaptic with keywords in u have repos
[10:17] <Berzerke1> is the live CD as big as the other?
[10:17] <ravi> yeah, when you pressed f1?
[10:17] <soundray> Berzerke1: you can try the help page on boot options
[10:17] <Oswy> So I'll try it tat that point.
[10:17] <Oswy> Loading now.
[10:17] <soundray> ubotu, tell Berzerke1 about bootoptions
[10:17] <Oswy> Ctrl+F1?
[10:17] <ravi> Yeah
[10:17] <Oswy> k
[10:17] <ravi> after it goes blank, or Alt
[10:17] <Oswy> k
[10:17] <jrm4> I have 2 monitors, beryl, xfce. When I first hit the login screen, its as if my 2 screens are 1 big monitor i.e. the login bit is split in the middle. I login and beryl doesnt work. But if I logout, the login screen is in the middle of monitor one, and when i re-login to xfce, beryl works fine. A minor annoyance, but any clues?
[10:17] <waxyfresh> ravi: whats f1 or cntrl do?
[10:18] <ravi> jrm4, I am in envy of your setup, I wish I could get beryl on my card
[10:18] <Berzerke1> what options would I use?
[10:18] <hjmills> arrenlex, hey! that fuser thing looks handy! neat
[10:18] <Oswy> Hmm, nothing happened.
[10:18] <ravi> waxyfresh: takes you to the terminals
[10:18] <Oswy> Must have missed the window or something.
[10:18] <Oswy> I'll try again.
[10:18] <ravi> wait Oswy
[10:18] <Checie_> ctfish, yeah
[10:18] <waxyfresh> lol oh yea
[10:18] <Oswy> Yeah?
[10:18] <ravi> where are you right now? blank screen?
[10:18] <Checie_> it did work out of the box
[10:18] <sheri_rao> n33o, got the device manager in top menu botton?
[10:18] <Berzerke1> and how do I get the live CD?
[10:18] <Oswy> No, load menu again.
[10:18] <jrm4> ravi -- yeah, I used Best Buy gift cards from Xmas to just buy a new GeForce 5200 FX, No Wii for me, but hey.
[10:18] <ravi> that's not where you press F1
[10:18] <Checie_> i had to do a little tinkering with DNS   but i did that     and still no go
[10:18] <ravi> its when you get to that blank screen
[10:19] <hjmills> tonyyarusso, unfortunatly not - it only tells me stats on how much of stuff is free etc
[10:19] <soundray> Berzerke1: the Desktop CD is a live CD
[10:19] <Oswy> I tried it when it went blank.
[10:19] <Oswy> I'll do it again.
[10:19] <ravi> k
[10:19] <Oswy> I think i missed the window.
[10:19] <Oswy> With or without Ctrl?
[10:19] <Berzerke1> that's what I was using
[10:19] <soundray> Berzerke1: then you have what you need
[10:19] <n33o> sheri_rao:  yes got it
[10:19] <Berzerke1> ...
[10:19] <ravi> try both Control and Alt and alternate, I'm not sure if you need both but do that with F1
[10:19] <Oswy> OK.
[10:19] <n33o> but what am i supposed to do with it
[10:19] <Checie_> ctfish, any ideas?
[10:19] <Berzerke1> then what exactly am I supposed to do?
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> hjmills: dang
[10:19] <n33o> it just shows the devices.. of which sb isnt there
[10:20] <Berzerke1> oh I'm sorry
[10:20] <ctfish> Checie_: is the actiontec device a nic or a modem?
[10:20] <soundray> Berzerke1: read the private message that ubotu sent and follow the link
[10:20] <Berzerke1> Alternative*
[10:20] <Berzerke1> how do I get that
[10:20] <hjmills> tonyyarusso, i guess I can always pop the side off...
[10:20] <Oswy> OK, I reached something.
[10:20] <evil_ways> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.17-11-generic i686]  (Uptime):[11:17]  (Load):[0.09]  (CPUCount):[2]  (Model):[Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz]  (Clock):[2992.701MHz]  (Cache):[2048 KB]  (Bogomips):[5990.71]  (Mem):[154/2074M [||||||||||] ]  (Total Space):[156.2G]  (Processes):[121] 
[10:20] <soundray> Berzerke1: same place you downloaded the Desktop CD
[10:21] <Oswy> But then it moved on to the same problem.
[10:21] <Checie_> ctfish, it is a DSL Modem
[10:21] <Lillen> Pratar ngon Svenska?
[10:21] <Oswy> What do I have to type at that time?
[10:21] <Berzerke1> where is it
[10:21] <LjL> !se | Lillen
[10:21] <Oswy> When I'm at the thingy.
[10:21] <ubotu> Lillen: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[10:21] <Berzerke1> I'm at the page
[10:21] <sheri_rao> n33o, well thats the only way to find out model make of hardware , wish u wud not open box
[10:21] <ravi> at what thingy?
[10:21] <ctfish> Checie_: ohhhh! all this time I was thinking it was a nic :P
[10:21] <Oswy> The terminal screen.
[10:21] <ravi> at the prompt?
[10:21] <Oswy> (I think.)
[10:21] <ravi> ok
[10:21] <rainabba> If my priority is to create a Xen host, should I use Server edition?
[10:21] <Checie_> ctfish, sorry
[10:21] <Flannel> sheri_rao: try `lspci | less`
[10:22] <Flannel> rainabba: Xen is GUI, right?
[10:22] <Oswy> Because it moves on after a while, for some reason.
[10:22] <ravi> try switching to other Function keys (screens) by going through f2 f3 ,etc until you get to a log with possible error messages
[10:22] <Checie_> ctfish, is that good news?
[10:22] <Oswy> k
[10:22] <rainabba> Flannel: Xen is virtualization software. Their are GUI management tools I think.
[10:22] <ctfish> Checie_: no :P I don't know much about USB modems
[10:22] <ravi> not just f2, f3, remember the control and alt keys
[10:22] <gRaCiOsO> good afternoon i have a problem i installed proftpd it works if i do ftp://localhost and it works good but if i do ftp with my ip that i have in my whois it ask for the user and password but when i put it it says incorrect anyone know why?
[10:22] <ctfish> Checie_: but I do have an idea that might or might not work :P
[10:22] <Flannel> rainabba: use the desktop version.  Alternate CD if you don't want to install a GUI right away.  But definately desktop kernel
[10:23] <usurp> when i try to install x-chat and type ./configure it tells me c compiler cannot create executable?
[10:23] <Checie_> great lay it on me
[10:23] <Berzerke1> soundray: I don't see where I can download the Alternative CD
[10:23] <stw> not having ubuntu installed, is there an easy way to see what package version is in which release?
[10:23] <ravi> Gracioso, you have to configure your router to forward port 21 on to your server inside the network
[10:23] <shafto1> I installed Beryl and now its gone mad, how do i completely reinstall it, i mean get rid of all its files etc??
[10:23] <jrib> usurp: xchat is in the repositories, don't compile it
[10:23] <soundray> rainabba: I can't see any disadvantages in using the regular desktop, except that it installs some stuff you won't need.
[10:23] <yknott> remove --purge
[10:23] <rainabba> Flannel: Thank you, could you explain?
[10:23] <usurp> ok
[10:23] <Flannel> Berzerke1: You need to go down to the bottom, click "more options" or whatever, and then pick a mirror, and click "Additional Installation Options" then find it
[10:23] <jrib> !xchat | usurp
[10:23] <ubotu> usurp: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[10:23] <chemisus> is there a way that i can move files that are listed in one file?
[10:24] <n33o> sheri_rao:  when i $ sudo modprobe sb  it comes back wiht "no such device"
[10:24] <soundray> ubotu, please tell Berzerke1 about download
[10:24] <rainabba> So far as Xen is concerned, any real advantages to Ubuntu over Debian?
[10:24] <sheri_rao> n33o, I have extracted the file for you out of the alsa-utils-tarball. Download alsaconf from here: http://www.schugy.de/forenlinks/alsaconf Then become root withsu<passwd>sh alsaconfMaybe you need to do something likeapt-get install libasoundHave Fun :-)
[10:24] <ctfish> Checie_: try executing (with sudo) "modprobe usbnet" and ping some site
[10:24] <terlmann> inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory
[10:24] <soundray> rainabba: no, quite the opposite I think
[10:24] <ctfish> Checie_: trying different kernel modules to see if one works :P
[10:24] <Oswy> Ugh.
[10:24] <Flannel> rainabba: well, the server kernel has PREEMPT removed, so you'll experience more latency with things like mousing
[10:24] <Berzerke1> I see.
[10:24] <Berzerke1> Thanks
[10:24] <ravi> what happenned Oswy?
[10:24] <Oswy> It just popped up for a second and moved on to the screen where I can't do anything.
[10:24] <soundray> rainabba: I'd go with Debian if I wanted Xen
[10:24] <shafto1> I installed Beryl and now its gone mad, how do i completely reinstall it, i mean get rid of all its files etc??
[10:24] <Checie_> can i ping google.com  or do i need that ip address
[10:24] <Oswy> I can't get it to stop at the other screen.
[10:24] <Checie_> i'll try it
[10:24] <Flannel> shafto1: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[10:24] <ravi> keep trying to switch back with function keys
[10:24] <Checie_> later
[10:25] <Oswy> k
[10:25] <rainabba> soundray: ty
[10:25] <ctfish> Checie_: you can just ping google.com
[10:25] <gRaCiOsO> ravi, well i dont know how to do it and i get internet by an antena
[10:25] <shafto1> Flannel, its not exactly to dow ith beryl as such more to do with how you get rid of every trace of it plus theres no one on there :P
[10:25] <ghatak> Hi guys, I added a new disk to my system, it is being detected as SDB, it has only one partition which is ext3, so that will be sdb1. How do i add it in fstab, i have stuff in fstab which refers to disks as UUID not as /dev/sdb1, what is the difference ? Which is better ?
[10:25] <n33o> sheri_rao:  thanks .. i think i will wait till tommorow.. try setup network
[10:25] <soundray> rainabba: but then I know it well. Ubuntu takes less time to get familiar with.
[10:25] <stiv2k> whoa
[10:25] <n33o> sheri_rao: then get stuff from the web
[10:25] <n33o> because linux box is not online at the moment ;-)
[10:26] <robjo> does anyone know which package contains wxwidgets? And for future self help how do I go about finding out which package contains a specific library or program I might be after?
[10:26] <n33o> sheri_rao: thanks for all your help
[10:26] <n33o> ;-)
[10:26] <n33o> cheers all
[10:26] <Berzerke1> and you're absolutally sure I can't do anything by editing any files to get the graphical interface to work?
[10:26] <Oswy> I interrupted the boot screen, oops.
[10:26] <Flannel> shafto1: How did you install it?  Is it all through a package manager?  then in synaptic, mark everything for "complete removal"
[10:26] <ravi> do you have an interface between you and the antenna?
[10:26] <sheri_rao> n33o, ok wish u good luck try ubuntu forums mark this http://www.ubuntux.org
[10:26] <soundray> ghatak: you can refer to it as /dev/sdb1 or by its uuid (find it out with the command blkid)
[10:26] <shafto1> Flannel, but when i did that and reinstalled it it still had the same configs, which were making it freeze, there
[10:26] <soundray> ubotu, tell ghatak about uuid
[10:26] <Oswy> codec 0 not found
[10:26] <Flannel> shafto1: you need to do "complete removal" not just "removal"
[10:26] <Oswy> Could that be it?
[10:26] <Flannel> shafto1: or, in apt, remove with --purge
[10:27] <ravi> what do you mean by interrupted?
[10:27] <ravi> does it tell you that you did or what?
[10:27] <shafto1> Flannel, apt --purge beryl?
[10:27] <Oswy> I pressed Ctrl+F1 as it was loading up.
[10:27] <Flannel> Berzerke1: You'll be able to install with the alternate CD, and then do all the tweaking to get it to work
[10:27] <Oswy> Instead of waiting for it to move on past the load screen.
[10:27] <ravi> doesn't matter, it'll continue loading away
[10:27] <ghatak> soundray: thanks
[10:27] <Oswy> k
[10:27] <Oswy> So.
[10:27] <Oswy> Codec 0 missing.
[10:27] <Flannel> shafto1: If beryl is the only package that you installed, then apt-get --purge remove beryl
[10:27] <soundray> Berzerke1: I've answered that.
[10:27] <Oswy> Could that be it?
[10:27] <Berzerke1> do you have some tutorial on installing with the text-based?
[10:27] <Berzerke1> I'm not familiar with linux installs
[10:28] <foutrelis> Berzerke1: It's pretty easy to do :)
[10:28] <Flannel> Berzerke1: it's just like with the desktop install.  It's really friendly.
[10:28] <soundray> Berzerke1: it's quite possible that you can get the Desktop CD to work by tweaking boot options
[10:28] <Math^> hello, can someone give me an example of logging in with ssh from an other pc thats not in to the netwerk?
[10:28] <ravi> don't think so, did you try installing in text mode Oswy?
[10:28] <Oswy> No.
[10:28] <ravi> that'll probably work fine for you
[10:28] <Berzerke1> I actually tried hitting F6
[10:28] <Oswy> How do I do thaht?
[10:28] <Berzerke1> but nothing came up
[10:28] <ravi> just do linux text on boot
[10:28] <ravi> "linux text"
[10:28] <bobbyd> how do I force apt to use my package instead of the downloading one?
[10:28] <Oswy> k
[10:28] <Flannel> Math^: just connect to it with a ssh client.  You'll need the IP, username, and password.
[10:28] <ctfish> Math^: ssh user@ipadress/domain
[10:28] <jared__> I finished installing Studio 8 using wine by following this tutorial: http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-dreamweaver-and-flash-8-running-on-ubuntu-dapper/ does anyone know how I can get the icons for the menu?
[10:29] <ravi> that'll surely work, beats having to debug this annoying problem
[10:29] <Oswy> Could not find kernel image: linux
[10:29] <jared__> I can't seem to find them when I'm trying to add the programs to the menu
[10:29] <soundray> Berzerke1: boot again and read the text on the screen really carefully at each stage.
[10:29] <ctfish> Checie_: any luck
[10:29] <soothsay> How can I fetch .debs without installing the package?
[10:29] <ravi> gah, it's probably just a bit different on Ubuntu
[10:29] <Sentinel> Wiki admin around? please qry me!
[10:29] <Oswy> Just text?
[10:29] <Flannel> soothsay: -d option
[10:29] <Oswy> Should I try that?
[10:29] <ravi> guys, Text mode installer for the boot CD, what's the input to the prompt?
[10:29] <yknott> soothsay: apt-get install packageiwant -d
[10:29] <ravi> yeah, try that
[10:29] <Oswy> k
[10:29] <Flannel> ravi: what?
[10:29] <soundray> soothsay: apt-get -d install packagename (man apt-get for further info)
[10:30] <Oswy> Seems to work.
[10:30] <foutrelis> ravi: I just use the alternate cd
[10:30] <Oswy> What now?
[10:30] <soothsay> Flannel, yknott, soundray: Thanks. Geez, I must be blind, I went over the man page 3 times.
[10:30] <jared__> ?
[10:30] <sheri_rao> Berzerke1, u can install ubuntu without having windows disturbed use ubuntu exe setup https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
[10:30] <babyju> folks...I have 6.10 installed on a laptop and sound fails after I resume from sleep or hibernate...my only option is to reboot. Anyone has an idea how to fix or restore sound without reboot. thx
[10:30] <Oswy> "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)"
[10:30] <beg1689> can somone help me... i cant get my wireless internet to work. I tried using network-admin and ive tryed manually changing /etc/network/interfaces to get it to work, it USED to work, abot a week ago. i get assigned an IP using dhcp fromt he router, but i have no connection, i cannot even ping the router.  The only result i get from trying to ping is "Operation not permitted".  The wired and wireless devices no longer show up in NetworkManage
[10:30] <Oswy> Is that meaningful?
[10:30] <ravi> holy crap
[10:30] <ravi> oswy, you have a much bigger problem on your hand
[10:31] <ravi> may be a corrupt CD
[10:31] <Oswy> Haha.
[10:31] <Oswy> Really?
[10:31] <Oswy> Hmm.
[10:31] <ravi> yeah
[10:31] <ompaul> Sentinel, if you want to edit it work away if there is an problem msg me and I will seeh what I can do to help
[10:31] <Nameeater> jared__: do you want to flash and dreamweaver icons?
[10:31] <Oswy> I checked it for defects twice.
[10:31] <Oswy> Should I try re-burning the ISO?
[10:31] <ravi> well, in that case - hold on
[10:31] <Oswy> k
[10:31] <soundray> babyju: in /etc/default/acpi-support you can list your sound driver module so it's unloaded on suspend and reloaded on resume.
[10:31] <ravi> anyone willing to jump in here? he's having a kernel panic on a checked CD
[10:31] <Oswy> Haha.
[10:31] <jared__> yeah.
[10:31] <ravi> thx, I have to leave
[10:31] <Berzerke1> is there a way to use that with an existing ISO?
[10:31] <SheaTara> Where is that magic sources.list-maker (and does it still work on Dapper?)
[10:32] <Nameeater> jared__: install the icoutils package, it can extract icons from .exe files
[10:32] <jared__> I'm trying to add them to the menu but I can't find the icons that are normally there on my windows partition
[10:32] <Flannel> !easysource | SheaTara
[10:32] <ubotu> SheaTara: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:32] <jared__> who do I do that exactly?
[10:32] <SheaTara> Flannel: thanks
[10:32] <Flannel> jared__: where are they on windows?
[10:32] <Oswy> Anyone?
[10:33] <Nameeater> jared__: at a terminal window type sudo apt-get install icoutils
[10:33] <jared__> the funny thing is I don't quite know. They are usually in the main folder of the program I think...
[10:33] <Oswy> Kernel panic, what do I do?
[10:33] <jared__> ok
[10:33] <sheri_rao> Berzerke1, do u has ubuntu installed on ur mechine
[10:33] <Flannel> jared__: ~/.wine/drive_c/ is your C drive, they'll be whereever they are on win
[10:33] <jared__> ok
[10:33] <Berzerke1> no
[10:33] <jared__> I'll try the icoutils first since I already looked in the drive_c folder
[10:33] <babyju> soundray, how can I tell which driver I use? lsmod will tell me all that are loaded if I run it after a reboot but I want to be certain I get the right one. Any ideas?
[10:34] <jared__> how exactly do I use icoutils?
[10:34] <jared__> I've already installed it
[10:34] <Oswy> Checked the CD, getting a kernel panic; should I just try reburning the ISO?
[10:34] <Innatech> Oswy: have you seen this: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2005/01/msg00084.html
[10:34] <Oswy> No.
[10:34] <Oswy> Checking now.
[10:34] <ailean> guys, I would like to convert my Kubuntu install back to a normal Ubuntu one.  How can I do that without removing the ability to run programs designed for KDE?  How can I do it in such a way that Ubuntu appears on the boot screen and welcome screens?
[10:35] <soundray> babyju: lsmod | grep snd  -- add them all. No harm in being inclusive.
[10:35] <jared__> what do I use to extract icons from the exe with icoutils?
[10:35] <jared__> (command)
[10:36] <Oswy> Innatech, I don't get what that link is for.
[10:36] <Oswy> I'm a total Linux noob, sorry.
[10:36] <Nameeater> jared__: do you know how to move folders in a terminal window?
[10:36] <babyju> thanks
[10:36] <jared__> not exactly.
[10:36] <Nameeater> ah
[10:36] <Berzerke1> any way to use the windows installer with an already downloaded ISO?
[10:36] <jared__> like change directory?
[10:36] <Oswy> In any case, I just downloaded the ISO from the site, didn't compile anything myself.
[10:36] <mcfaddin> i there, i am totally new to ubuntu, can someone give me a hand to figure out how to use some wine stuff?
[10:36] <Nameeater> jared__: yes
[10:36] <jared__> oh
[10:36] <soundray> babyju: although it might be enough if you find the actual driver and use that. It's one of those that are listed without dependent modules
[10:36] <jared__> yeah I know that
[10:36] <Nameeater> 'cd'
[10:36] <Nameeater> cool ok
[10:36] <jesusphreak> is there any easy way to single boot Ubuntu on a Macbook?
[10:36] <Innatech> It gives some options you can pass to the kernel at boot time for dealing with cranky HW. But yeah, if its the standard ISO from Canonical it should be OK.
[10:36] <jesusphreak> I don't want OS X
[10:37] <Oswy> Screw it, I'll try reformatting the disk.
[10:37] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine
[10:37] <Nameeater> change directory into ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[10:37] <soundray> jesusphreak: once you've installed ubuntu, you can format the Mac partitions.
[10:37] <jared__> then what?
[10:37] <Nameeater> dont know if you know about Tab complete, but hit it part way through a folder and it should autocomplete it
[10:37] <ctfish> Checie_: did it work?
[10:38] <Pollywog> isn't OS X a lot like Linux?
[10:38] <soundray> jesusphreak: I'd recommend against it though -- keep a minimal OS X around for emergencies.
[10:38] <preaction> OS X is BSD
[10:38] <jesusphreak> soundray: I've got a problem to where the Ubuntu Live CD won't boot up anymore
[10:38] <jesusphreak> it booted once but since then it just hangs
[10:38] <Nameeater> jared__: change into the Macromedia folder, I'm not sure what its called in program files
[10:38] <jared__> I'm in the folder with the .exe which runs the program alraedy
[10:38] <jared__> *already
[10:38] <Berzerke1> why is the "Install ubuntu to a partition created in free space" greyed out?
[10:39] <jared__> do i do icoutils thent he exe file?
[10:39] <soundray> jesusphreak: I can't comment on that
[10:39] <LjL> Berzerke1: because there's no free space? :P
[10:39] <mcfaddin> i am running a program in wine called Vag-Com, it's for diagnostics and programing for car ecu's.   i can load the program fine, but i have a usb connection that goes to the car.  it has a key embedded in it, and the program needs that key to do the work.   in windows i would just manage the new device and load the driver, but i don't know how to make that all work here with ubuntu and wine
[10:39] <jesusphreak> okay np
[10:39] <Nameeater> oh, ok :x, type wrestool -x exefilename.exe
[10:39] <Berzerke1> The installer doesn't partition allocations for you?
[10:39] <jared__> ok
[10:39] <jared__> whoa!
[10:40] <Pollywog> ecu is emmisions control unit?
[10:40] <Nameeater> jared__: ?
[10:40] <jared__> it just gave a bunch of "don't know how to extract resource"
[10:40] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, did u check if u application work in wine website appdatabase
[10:40] <jared__> then it game some crazy letters...
[10:40] <Nameeater> :\
[10:40] <mcfaddin> nope, engine control unit
[10:40] <Pollywog> oic
[10:40] <jared__> its all like ???( 7;
[10:40] <jared__> lol
[10:40] <mcfaddin> no, i didn't check it out, how do i do that?
[10:40] <Berzerke1> what file system does Ubuntu use?
[10:40] <ardchoille> jared__: Please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:41] <SheaTara> what's the easiest way to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[10:41] <foutrelis> Berzerke1: ext3 is a common one
[10:41] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, go and check status of ur application here http://appdb.winehq.org/ must every app work with wine?
[10:41] <soundray> Berzerke1: ext3 by default. It can use others.
[10:41] <jared__> err how is it offtopic? it is help getting icons to add them to my ubuntu menu
[10:41] <jared__> thats just explaining what iI got in the terminal
[10:41] <Nameeater> jared__: have msn/aim?
[10:41] <soundray> ubotu, tell SheaTara about upgrade
[10:41] <Berzerke1> alright
[10:41] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, check here on wine website http://appdb.winehq.org/
[10:41] <jared__> yeah I got msn
[10:41] <SheaTara> soundray: thanks
[10:42] <jared__> why?
[10:42] <shafto> !nvidia | shafto
[10:42] <shafto> !nvidia
[10:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <Nameeater> did you get my /msg ? :\
[10:43] <cables> shafto, if you want to test Ubotu, please PM it.
[10:43] <shafto> hehe i thought id be clever and try aim it at myself went wrong though :(
[10:44] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, seems ur app doesnt not exist in wine app database , u better try at ur own now , wine app is user driven database u can submit this problem this is how u can help wine work for u
[10:44] <jared__> no i didn
[10:44] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, which wine version u have? ubuntu repo offer old wine version u need to add xtra repos
[10:45] <shafto> How do i edit the file which containt screen resoltions to stop it from opening it 1024x768?
[10:45] <Berzerke1> I made free space
[10:45] <Nameeater> add me, thelostpheonix@hotmail.com
[10:45] <Berzerke1> and it's still greyed out
[10:45] <LordLimecat> yo, anyone in here know how to make videos of the deskktop?
[10:45] <stiv2k> help, i just installed cupsys, and when trying to add a printer, i select the driver and it asks for a username and password, what user/pass do i give it?
[10:45] <LordLimecat> what program would i use?
[10:45] <beg1689>  use a camera
[10:45] <vyns> hello
[10:45] <LordLimecat> beg1689: i dont have one, and thats not a very elegant solution
[10:45] <shafto> How do i edit the file which contains screen resolutions to stop it from opening it 1024x768?**
[10:46] <LordLimecat> it shouldnt be THAT hard to capture video output
[10:46] <sheri_rao> shafto, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:46] <beg1689> dunno, try google
[10:46] <LordLimecat> i have -_-
[10:46] <LordLimecat> thats why im here
[10:46] <beg1689> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Record_your_desktop
[10:46] <sheri_rao> shafto, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:47] <l90bpm> if terminal is automatic enough for me..  I shouldn't need automatix should I?
[10:47] <cables> Has anyone used VirtualBox in here?
[10:47] <Flannel> l90bpm: stay far away from automatix.
[10:47] <l90bpm> lol.. ok
[10:47] <shane634> Flannel, why?
[10:47] <cables> l90bpm, you don't wanna use automatix.
[10:47] <cables> shane634, hi there.
[10:47] <OuZo> has anybody used gnome planner?
[10:48] <shane634> cables, hey
[10:48] <cables> shane634, automatix tends to kill Ubuntu in bad ways, especially when you want to upgrade to the latest version.
[10:48] <l90bpm> anything else I should know? I'm adding a few things to my newly updated  6.10
[10:48] <cables> shane634, latest version of Ubuntu I mean
[10:48] <shane634> cables, hmm i have used it with no problems lol
[10:48] <l90bpm> like any warnings before I procede to installing beryl?
[10:48] <shane634> cables, ok i don't use fiesty yet
[10:48] <cables> shane634, have you upgraded to a later Ubuntu release automatically?
[10:48] <l90bpm> nividia card by the way
[10:48] <TheAppleSeed> getting qoq to work with wine is very easy :D
[10:49] <TheAppleSeed> wow*
[10:49] <cefx> !fxp
[10:49] <l90bpm> nvidia*
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fxp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <cables> shane634, well you're not GONNA use feisty without a clean install.
[10:49] <cefx> !ftp
[10:49] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:49] <_Jaak_> what is wrong with the wine 0.9.33 update?
[10:49] <cefx> !FTPd
[10:49] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:49] <shane634> cables, i went from dapper to edgy online update
[10:49] <cefx> !KcmPureftpd
[10:49] <cables> cefx, if you're using Ubotu to get info for yourself, please use /msg ubotu
[10:49] <ubotu> kcmpureftpd: KControl module for easily setting up pure-ftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 250 kB, installed size 956 kB
[10:49] <shafto> sheri_rao, Once i finsihed editing how do i save it?
[10:49] <TheAppleSeed> getting wow to work with wine and get more than 5FPS
[10:49] <l90bpm> I did too cable..  it takes a while
[10:49] <shafto> sheri_rao, ctrl+s dont work
[10:49] <TheAppleSeed> lol.. that cant be done
[10:49] <foutrelis> cefx: If you want to investigate ubotu pm it :)
[10:49] <l90bpm> don't think it froze up or anything.. some of the updates take forever
[10:50] <l90bpm> well not from updates
[10:50] <cables> shane634, l90bpm, didn't work for me, automatix killed stuff. I guess you just avoided the parts of automatix that have that effect :)
[10:50] <sheri_rao> shafto, use this command with GEDIT text editor , sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:50] <cefx> Okay sorry
[10:50] <shane634> cables, yeah maybe i got lucky
[10:50] <ubuntuEdgy> can any one help i have an annoying issue http://pastebin.ca/400745
[10:50] <mkquist> anyone help w/grub goes to 'grub loading' and seems to get stuck
[10:51] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, maybe you should check in #mythtv also
[10:51] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, never mind, that's not a user channel
[10:51] <ubuntuEdgy> cables:i will but its not a mythtv issue
[10:51] <TheAppleSeed> has anyone "expertise" on wine and wow? :l
[10:51] <ubuntuEdgy> ok
[10:52] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, okay, but don't go there. Go to #mythtv-users if you want support with that.
[10:52] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, lots of posts on that on the forums
[10:52] <sheri_rao> TheAppleSeed, put ur question on wine
[10:52] <LordLimecat> beg1689: thanks, ill try xvidcap
[10:52] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, it may help to tell everyone your problem instead of just posting a pastebin link...
[10:52] <l90bpm> is cedega like wine for games only?
[10:52] <beg1689> good luck, that was just the first result of a google search
[10:52] <TheAppleSeed> i know shane.. i read the all :( but they all have the same problem, and no answers lol
[10:52] <Innatech> mkquist: You might want to have a look here and see if it helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1439496
[10:52] <cables> l90bpm, I don't think it's games *only*, but it is enhanced for games. Not entirely sure about that though.
[10:53] <ubuntuEdgy> cables:i dont knwo what to say lol
[10:53] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, specific problem?
[10:53] <arrenlex> l90bpm: cedega is a proprietary fork of wine specialised to run games.
[10:53] <l90bpm> I see
[10:53] <cables> ubuntuEdgy, well mention that MythTV won't start and you're getting a graphics error.
[10:53] <TheAppleSeed> i can run the game but i cant get more than 5 fps v.v
[10:53] <arrenlex> TheAppleSeed: Do you have 3D acceleration?
[10:53] <l90bpm> I don't play too many games anyhow.. just read a lil about it earlier and I was curious
[10:53] <TheAppleSeed> yeap
[10:53] <_Jaak_> what is wrong with the wine 0.9.33 update? i get error libgphoto2-2 (>=2.3.0) but 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 is installed
[10:54] <waxyfresh> cables: i trust and love automatix
[10:54] <waxyfresh> cables: it does have a tendency to break stuff
[10:54] <waxyfresh> anyone been able to get zork nemisis to work with wine
[10:54] <l90bpm> trying to familiarize myself to this alien world
[10:54] <mkquist> innatech - thnx ill check it out
[10:54] <sheri_rao> _Jaak_, make sure u have all dependencies cleared
[10:54] <waxyfresh> anyone been able to get zork nemisis to work with wine
[10:54] <mcfaddin> sheri_rao>  i think that i have the original wine that i loaded from the applications program.  how can i add extra repos?
[10:54] <_Jaak_> sheryi_rao, euuh?
[10:54] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, what vid card?
[10:54] <crdlb> waxyfresh, I've tried ZGI and it wouldn't work
[10:55] <arrenlex> _Jaak_: 0.9.33 isn't in the repositories. What are you talking about?
[10:55] <TheAppleSeed> you can see my post too, "NoMoreWindoze" is the user, its the biig post
[10:55] <TheAppleSeed> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=312482&page=24
[10:55] <slavik> I compiled my wine ... because they haven't commited the mouse patch yet :(
[10:55] <kristoffer> anyone who want to help me with my ktorrent? i get this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10952/
[10:55] <heat``> windoze is such a cool way to say windows.
[10:55] <TheAppleSeed> xD
[10:55] <arrenlex> heat``: ...no, it isn't. o_O
[10:55] <heat``> exactly
[10:56] <LadyNikon> heat``: i prefer winblows
[10:56] <TheAppleSeed> lol
[10:56] <heat``> oh thats real cool too.
[10:56] <_Jaak_> arrenlex, well it is here...
[10:56] <arrenlex> ...oh, I forgot, I removed sarcasm-detector last time I upgraded. Sorry.
[10:56] <slavik> microslop wrote winblows
[10:56] <heat``> yikes
[10:56] <waxyfresh> crdlb: zgi?is that a dif version of zork?
[10:56] <shaigar> i prefer "that wonderful operating system that made computers more commonplace, thus allowing nix OS's to become stronger"
[10:57] <arrenlex> !windows
[10:57] <arrenlex> :)
[10:57] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:57] <shaigar> true it doesnt work, doesnt mean it didnt contribute in a big way
[10:57] <slavik> shaigar: you mean vista?
[10:57] <l90bpm> aptitude get in edgy right?
[10:57] <crdlb> waxyfresh, yes Zork: Grand Inquisitor, released right after Nemesis
[10:57] <shaigar> no windows as a whole
[10:57] <kristoffer> Guys?:) someones good at kTorrent?
[10:57] <arrenlex> I like dpkg's !windows more: (15:57:16) dpkg: PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work.
[10:57] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, sorry i can't help with wine too much
[10:57] <l90bpm> lmao
[10:57] <TheAppleSeed> :((
[10:57] <slavik> arrenlex: ROFL, where is that?
[10:57] <heat``> but..
[10:57] <heat``> airconditioners still work if you open windows
[10:58] <heat``> :|
[10:58] <arrenlex> slavik: #debian. dpkg is their bot. He owns ubotu... not as helpful, but hilarious.
[10:58] <arrenlex> slavik: Ask him about the meaning of life and things :)
[10:58] <slavik> heh
[10:58] <LordLimecat> if he says 42...
[10:58] <LordLimecat> -_-
[10:59] <heat``> if he says 42 i will laugh so hard because of that jokes freshness.
[10:59] <TheAppleSeed> wow is the last thing i cant do on ubuntu >.< now i have to keep switching :l
[10:59] <ravi> anyone in here know what's wrong when I have a high RX error count in my ifconfig
[10:59] <ravi> ?
[10:59] <kristoffer> SOmeony who wants to help me with KTorrent?
[10:59] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then add this # Repository for wine
[10:59] <sheri_rao> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[10:59] <sheri_rao> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[10:59] <clearzen>  ravi: are you connected to a hub?
[10:59] <arrenlex> kristoffer: What's the problem/
[10:59] <shane634> TheAppleSeed, there is a thread on the board about boosting fps in wine search for it
[11:00] <Oswy> OK, there must be something wrong with the download.
[11:00] <Oswy> I re-burned the ISO, and I'm still having a kernel panic.
[11:00] <Oswy> :/
[11:00] <kristoffer> arrenlex, thank god..:) I can't download. i dont no why but i get this message in the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10952/
[11:00] <Oswy> Even thhough the md5sums checked out.
[11:00] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, did u add wine repo
[11:00] <Innatech> oswy: bizzare.
[11:00] <Oswy> Anything else I can try?
[11:00] <ravi> hah, still going huh Oswy
[11:00] <Oswy> Yeah.
[11:00] <ravi> that's one crazy problem you have there
[11:00] <Oswy> Now I've wasted TWO CD-Rs. :D :D :D
[11:00] <Oswy> Could it be my computer?
[11:00] <mcfaddin> no, i didn't, but i just found out that wine does not support USB
[11:00] <Innatech> Oswy: Well.....I think you can net install Ubuntu.
[11:01] <cefx> Does anyone know of a GUI ftp program with fxp abilities for KDE?
[11:01] <Oswy> What?/How?
[11:01] <kristoffer> arrenlex: in KTorrent the status is stalled and tracker status is invalid response
[11:01] <cefx> kcmpureftpd isn't listed anywhere...and can't find it
[11:01] <Oswy> Oh.
[11:01] <Oswy> ic
[11:01] <shane634> Oswy, just made coasters is all
[11:01] <Oswy> How do I do that?
[11:01] <Oswy> Hahaha.
[11:01] <preVail> cefx, even though it is for gnome gftp is the best that i have found
[11:01] <arrenlex> kristoffer: I've never seen that, sorry.
[11:01] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, r u  trying to install window base USB driver through wine?
[11:01] <mcfaddin> so i guess the only thing i can do is to run XP instead of ubuntu.
[11:01] <mcfaddin> yeah, i am
[11:01] <ravi> bah, I hate ubuntu's network install
[11:01] <cefx> preVail: can it fxp?
[11:01] <kramer3d> whats that thing called where it installs all the stuff for u ? autonomix?
[11:02] <ljl> !automatix | kramer3d
[11:02] <ubotu> kramer3d: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:02] <kristoffer> arrenlex, but damn..:) I really need help;)
[11:02] <ravi> automatix
[11:02] <preVail> cefx yes
[11:02] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, did ubuntu not detect ur USB drive?
[11:02] <Innatech> Oswy: Links incoming! Somewhat outdated, but should be a decent start.
[11:02] <Oswy> So any other options?
[11:02] <kramer3d> thanks
[11:02] <kramer3d> XD
[11:02] <Oswy> Hmm.
[11:02] <Oswy> k
[11:02] <trev_> i can't login with gaim or make contact with login.oscar.com, can anyone help me?
[11:02] <surge> I'm having trouble with getting mod_userdir working, I goto the url with sitename.com/~site4 and it goes to the directory of /home/sitename/public_html/site4 instead of /home/site4/public_html
[11:02] <Oswy> Outdated=what?
[11:02] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix
[11:02] <arrenlex> ljl: DUDE! You're not wearing caps! Put those back on, aaaugh >__<
[11:02] <l90bpm> you don't need it
[11:02] <ravi> yeah, just noticed the high RX error count, have more than 38603 errors. what could be wrong, how do I fix it?
[11:02] <Oswy> not 6.10?
[11:02] <surge> I'm stumped on how to fix it.
[11:02] <l90bpm> how hard is it to copy and paste?
[11:02] <preVail> cefx, you may want to try kasablanca as well although i prefer gftp
[11:02] <kramer3d> O_O
[11:02] <kramer3d> automatix breaks system??!?!
[11:02] <kramer3d> what do people recomend?
[11:02] <ravi> what?
[11:03] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, did ubuntu not detect ur USB drive?
[11:03] <shane634> kramer3d, it never broke mine
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> kramer3d: not usually, but folks here swear it does
[11:03] <arrenlex> kramer3d: Every once in a while. Yep.
[11:03] <LjL> kramer3d: yes. doing things the proper way, i.e. through APT
[11:03] <ravi> kramer3d, are you high?
[11:03] <SheaTara> is it normal for update-manager to remove about 101 packages?
[11:03] <LjL> !software > kramer3d    (kramer3d, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> shane634: mine either
[11:03] <mcfaddin> no.  when i go into the device manager it shows that the cable is connected, and it tells me that it's for the program i want to use it in, but i have no way to make the Vag Com program recognize that there is anything connected
[11:03] <SheaTara> -- for upgrading from dapper to edgy
[11:03] <ravi> LjL, Automatix == through APT for newbs
[11:03] <Innatech> Oswy:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29555       http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-797.html     http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/InstallFromKnoppixHowto
[11:03] <Oswy> k
[11:03] <kramer3d> ravi: what?!
[11:03] <Oswy> Thanks.
[11:03] <waxyfresh> whats a good key logger?
[11:03] <sethk> ravi, what percentage of packets have errors?  how do you know that number is high?
[11:03] <LjL> kramer3d: debian has gone a long way to make installation of software easy, and ubuntu inherits all of that. why create shaky scripts to do the same thing?
[11:03] <shane634> automatix is n the repos
[11:03] <ravi> oh crap, sorry
[11:04] <IdleOne> ravi, automatix is bad and NOT in the repos
[11:04] <SheaTara> waxyfresh: I don't believe there is one, but why would you need it?
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: i guess i've just not experienced the "shakiness"
[11:04] <kramer3d> cause if there's an even easier way, then why not :D
[11:04] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, just connect usb flash drive ubuntu should detect it u wud c usb drive on ur desktop icon
[11:04] <waxyfresh> <-----loves automatix
[11:04] <ravi> oh I know, I'm sorry for being politically incorrect
[11:04] <LjL> IndyGunFreak: see !worksforme...
[11:04] <clearzen> ravi: are you connected to a hub?
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: i know, i know...lol
[11:04] <Oswy> What?
[11:04] <Oswy> I need floppies for this?
[11:04] <mcfaddin> you see, the USB device has the software key in it.  windows would typically use the driver (which needs to be installed) to read the software key in the FOB of the USB
[11:04] <ravi> clearzen: to a router
[11:04] <l90bpm> it comes packaged in mandriva one doesn't it?
[11:04] <kramer3d> grr...
[11:05] <mcfaddin> i have tried to just plug it in many times, but nothing comes up
[11:05] <clearzen> ravi: how many computers are connected to the same router?
[11:05] <ravi> Oswy: network install for Ubuntu is archaic, they really need to grow up the network install part of ubuntu
[11:05] <surge6> Anyone have any experiance with mod_userdir under apache2?
[11:05] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, do this command in terminal lsusb
[11:05] <Oswy> Gah.
[11:05] <shane634> IdleOne, funny it is in my synaptic
[11:05] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, lsusb
[11:05] <Innatech> Oswy: yeah.
[11:05] <ravi> clearzen: 3 wired, 5 wireless
[11:05] <Oswy> Should I try it anyway?
[11:05] <moot_> I need help uninstalling Java
[11:05] <Oswy> I don't even think I have floppies anymore.
[11:05] <ravi> probably more like 2 or 3 now wireless
[11:05] <Innatech> Oswy: Here, try this. It's more detailed and updated for breezy.
[11:06] <IdleOne> shane634, because you have added the repository but it is not a ubuntu repo and not supported
[11:06] <Innatech> oswy: http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[11:06] <LjL> moot_: how did you install it?
[11:06] <mcfaddin> i have the drivers that have been copied and pasted into wine
[11:06] <Oswy> k cool
[11:06] <shane634> IdleOne, ok thanks
[11:06] <mcfaddin> ok, it says that it's a Bus device
[11:06] <Oswy> This is 6.10?
[11:06] <clearzen> ravi: have you thought of segmenting your network so they are not all on the same node?
[11:06] <mcfaddin> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0403:fa24 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd
[11:06] <mcfaddin> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:06] <ravi> clearzen: you mean like on different subnets?
[11:06] <clearzen> ravi: yeah
[11:06] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, driver wont work through wine , use this command and tell me lsusb
[11:06] <kramer3d> how do I install flash for ubuntu
[11:06] <arrenlex> !flash | kramer3d
[11:06] <ubotu> kramer3d: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:06] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:07] <IdleOne> shane634, I am curious to see your /etc/apt/sources.list could you pastebin it
[11:07] <clearzen> ravi: change the subnet for the wireless
[11:07] <ravi> clearzen: not that high throughput of a network, just used at home
[11:07] <erichj> penguin.swf is for linux
[11:07] <Oswy> Hmm.
[11:07] <erichj> get it at adobe.com
[11:07] <mcfaddin> should i use this command, and THEN try using the program?
[11:07] <Oswy> So what do I do with this?
[11:07] <ravi> clearzen, why would that make my issues with errors better?
[11:07] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, lsusb
[11:07] <clearzen> ravi: it can still cause network slowdowns
[11:07] <shane634> IdleOne,  i know nothing of irc or pastebin lol only on here a week
[11:07] <Oswy> Is a server already set up?
[11:07] <clearzen> ravi: I believe it would
[11:07] <IdleOne> !pastebin | shane634
[11:07] <ubotu> shane634: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <mcfaddin> ok, this is what i got:
[11:07] <mcfaddin> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0403:fa24 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd
[11:07] <mcfaddin> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:08] <Innatech> Oswy: You don't want to do it exactly the way he describes. Check the link at the bottom too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:08] <Oswy> k
[11:08] <ravi> clearzen: ok... but I've never had problems in the past and I have done plenty of transfers!
[11:08] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, this command wud help u c if ur usb drive really mounted /detected
[11:08] <shane634> ubotu, thanks
[11:08] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:08] <l90bpm> can't get flash installed for some reason?  now I won't be able to see all those ads:(
[11:08] <mcfaddin> ok, so it does detect it
[11:08] <ravi> clearzen: by plenty I mean terrabytes and terrabytes worth
[11:08] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, is usb pluged in?
[11:08] <mcfaddin> yep
[11:08] <shane634> ubotu, well a friendly one lol
[11:08] <clearzen> ravi: I could be wrong. But it did help me at my home as well.
[11:08] <erichj> FLASH: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[11:08] <Oswy> Ugh.
[11:08] <erichj> for linux
[11:08] <Oswy> I have NO IDEA what to do with this.
[11:08] <Oswy> ><
[11:09] <ravi> clearzen: ok, I'll try that but do you think it could be something more physical like the wire?
[11:09] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, it does not , u better better use other socket change it physically
[11:09] <Oswy> Do I need to set up a server, or is there already one set up?
[11:09] <ravi> clearzen: or would that cause problems in both Rx and Tx transmissions?
[11:09] <Innatech> Oswy: you'll need a DHCP server to give you machine an IP. Your router will be running one. You should be fine from there. Read through the blog entry, but follow the instructions in the linked Ubuntu community page.
[11:09] <slavik> person with the 5700 nvidia card and wow not going above 5fps ... you need better ahrdware or lower gfx settings :P
[11:09] <ravi> Oswy, I wish I could just mail you your computer with Ubuntu beautifully installed :(
[11:10] <DM|> Can anyone help me with Samba?
[11:10] <Oswy> Hmm.
[11:10] <Yeti_69> !fr
[11:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:10] <Oswy> I have a router, yeah.
[11:10] <ravi> you've spent a whole lot of time on this issue
[11:10] <Oswy> :/
[11:10] <mcfaddin> if you want more info on what i am plugging in, go to http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/usb/usb-config.html
[11:10] <Oswy> So I can transfer it from my computer to the same computer?
[11:10] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0403:fa24 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd this mesg mean usb drive is detected
[11:10] <l90bpm> erichj..  tried that.. unable to locate a webplayer that matches my platform and browser
[11:11] <erichj> what browser?
[11:11] <l90bpm> the fox
[11:11] <clearzen> ravi: if you haven't had problems before I would check it...but I would expect to see problems with both Rx and Tx if it was the cable
[11:11] <Innatech> oswy: oh. No, those instructions assume you have another computer handy you can connect to with TFTP.
[11:11] <shane634> IdleOne, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10953/
[11:11] <sheri_rao> mcfaddin, open file browser and u can get into this drive wats a big deal?
[11:11] <Oswy> I'm running XP now; this seems to be for Linux.
[11:11] <Oswy> Oh.
[11:11] <erichj> want me to just send you the archive for flash?
[11:11] <Oswy> Hmm.
[11:11] <shane634> i hope i did it right lol
[11:11] <yoink> Hi, does anyone here use udev rules to fire events on usb plugin?
[11:11] <l90bpm> well I'm installing it on another machine
[11:12] <Innatech> Oswy: just a sec. I'll read through it and see if I can host what you need for a little while. It'll be slow over the net but better than nothing.
[11:12] <Oswy> So I could download it to my laptop and then send it to my PC?
[11:12] <dragonriot> anyone here have any experience with Vyatta OFR as a VMWare appliance?  Figured I'd ask here since it uses Ubuntu as the host for the appliance itself...
[11:12] <Oswy> Oh, cool.
[11:12] <Oswy> Thanks.
[11:12] <PirateHead> I want to add a new syntax highlighting mode to Gedit. Can somebody walk me through it or help me find documentation?
[11:12] <Innatech> Oswy: yes--if you have a laptop, that's idea.
[11:12] <Oswy> k
[11:12] <vox754> PirateHead, what syntax
[11:12] <Oswy> Can I do it over Windows, through cmd prompt or something?
[11:12] <clearzen> ravi: do you have wireshark??
[11:13] <PirateHead> vox754: www.byond.com's "DM" language.
[11:13] <erichj> Pirate: view->highlight mode and select your language
[11:13] <Innatech> Oswy: You can put a TFTP server on your windows laptop (google: solar wind tftp) and then point your server at it to netinstall.
[11:13] <Oswy> k, this download will be about 20 minutes.
[11:13] <PirateHead> erichj: the language I am using is fairly nonstandard and is thus not supported in Gedit by default.
[11:13] <Juz_moi> is there a package search page(s) for ubuntu, lik there is for debian?
[11:13] <l90bpm> firefox's plug in finder can't do it either  (Unknown Plugin application/x-director
[11:13] <vox754> PirateHead, I don't know, but I would be interested to know how to do it. You can try contacting the developers.
[11:14] <l90bpm> wait, heres something...   tar.gz or rpm?
[11:15] <PirateHead> erichj: do you know anything specifically about Gedit configuration?
[11:15] <erichj> not really
[11:15] <Slart> Juz_moi: yes there is.. .I think it's packages.ubuntu.org or something similar
[11:15] <Juz_moi> something like http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[11:15] <erichj> i use bluefish
[11:15] <IdleOne> shane634, yup you added the repos for automatix. Im surprised you still have a working system. I suggest you uninstall that and and see !easysource
[11:15] <Juz_moi> tnx
[11:15] <Slart> Juz_moi: last time I needed it I googled for it... wasn't that hard to find
[11:15] <clearzen> ravi: Are you still there?
[11:15] <erichj> how is it that people have so much trouble with automatix
[11:15] <shane634> IdleOne, if it aint broke i aint fixin it lol
[11:16] <ravi> zen, you in here?
[11:16] <l90bpm> which to choose? which to choose?  any many mighty moe..   .tar.gz or .rpm?
[11:16] <clearzen> ravi: yeah
[11:16] <Slart> erichj: perhaps because automatix assumes things about your system? or doesn't do everything "by the book".. just guesses
[11:16] <Innatech> Can someone help Oswy with his netinstall when he comes back? I've got to run.
[11:16] <shane634> IdleOne, this system has been running for nearly a year like this
[11:16] <ravi> clearzen: I just noticed another error when grabbing an IP address from the router
[11:16] <slavik> !ru
[11:16] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:16] <IdleOne> shane634, ok cool
[11:17] <Oswy> k, downloading now.
[11:17] <Juz_moi> ah kwel it's a .com
[11:17] <Juz_moi> tnx all
[11:17] <Oswy> 25 minutes or so.
[11:17] <clearzen> ravi: I was going to tell you you may want to run wireshark on your network to get a better idea of what is going wrong
[11:17] <clearzen> ravi: what error
[11:17] <shane634> IdleOne,  perhaps i am a very lucky man lol
[11:17] <l90bpm> anyone?
[11:18] <ravi> clearzen: DHCDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval7 ip length 314 disagrees with bytes received 534. Asccepting packet with data after udp upload.
[11:18] <ravi> sorry for the horrible spelling
[11:18] <ravi> however, it goes on gets itself the ip
[11:18] <IdleOne> shane634, perhaps. I have never had luck with automatix. needed to reinstall Ubuntu twice because of it but if it works for you...
[11:18] <l90bpm> what is the difference between a tar and an rpm???????????????????
[11:19] <MostKnown53> hello if i install the oem version can i install the programs i want
[11:19] <ravi> l90bm, whats the difference between a pile of shit and a neatly organized pile of shit?
[11:19] <l90bpm> lmao
[11:19] <IdleOne> l90bpm, tar is a compression format and rpm is not used by Ubuntu
[11:19] <l90bpm> nothing
[11:19] <shane634> IdleOne, yeah that can happen machines are different after all.
[11:19] <PriceChild> !ohmy | ravi
[11:19] <ubotu> ravi: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:19] <DM|> I have a problem with Samba, im accessing a windows machine from my ubuntu box, and it keeps asking me for username and password... and it shouldnt, the windows PC doesnt have a password.... HELP
[11:19] <l90bpm> i see
[11:19] <ravi> oh, sorry
[11:19] <LjL> *ahum*... ravi, perhaps try other analogies, please?
[11:19] <IdleOne> !ohmy | ravi
[11:19] <X86echo> mmmmmmmmmm
[11:19] <ravi> didn't notice that you were that stringent in here. sorry about that everyone
[11:20] <PriceChild> l90bpm, tar's usually contain source, rpm's are binaries for redhat package management distros
[11:20] <l90bpm> so I can't use tar either?
[11:20] <Innatech> Oswy: ok. I'm afraid I've got to run. Hopefully others here can help you out from here.  However, before you get too far down the rabbit hole, I'd suggest trying to boot Knoppix. It's worth burning it to have it around, and if you can get that up and running you can come at it from that angle.
[11:20] <sheri_rao> l90bpm, rpm is specifically for radhat base distro like deb for dabian, and taz is archive extention
[11:20] <usagent> howdy all, just started with Ubuntu today and have a quick question about the mouse functions
[11:20] <clearzen> ravi: do you know how to run wireshark?
[11:20] <ravi> yse
[11:20] <ravi> clearzen: yes*
[11:20] <X86echo>  whats the difference between a pile of shit and a neatly organized pile of shit? ravi what are you saying man
[11:20] <vox754> !tar
[11:20] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy
[11:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:21] <vox754> !rpm
[11:21] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:21] <sheri_rao> l90bpm, use tar if other only option is rpm , provided u r on ubuntu or non-redhat
[11:21] <ravi> rpms can be converted with alien
[11:21] <ravi> sorry for the redundancies
[11:21] <eck> in practice, i have not found alien to work very well
[11:21] <vox754> !info alien
[11:21] <shane634> ravi, yes they can
[11:21] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (edgy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[11:21] <eck> if you have a tarball you're better off building the source
[11:22] <clearzen> ravi: personally I would use that tool to pinpoint the networking problem. I'll see if I can find what it might be from that error.
[11:22] <ravi> X86echo, "what are you saying man" I am just trying to display my hatred for everything that has to do anything with a yum repository
[11:22] <shane634> eck, what problems with alien did you have?
[11:22] <usagent> Can anyone please tell me if single click is available instead of having to double click on things?
[11:22] <screaming_flower> does anyone have any suggestions for getting a ati 1950 pro video card working under ubuntu without the crappy vesa drivers (i would kinda like some video acceleration)
[11:22] <whta> is the ntfs write support still considered dangerous?
[11:22] <ravi> yes it is usagent, there I have told you.
[11:22] <IdleOne> !ati | screaming_flower
[11:22] <ubotu> screaming_flower: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:23] <X86echo> lol ravi its ok
[11:23] <jron2> is it possible to cache the needed files into memory using the ubuntu livecd so I can burn a cd in a laptop with only one cd drive. (due to having to remove the cd) wasn't sure if this would work
[11:23] <Slart> whta: I wouldn't trust it for serious stuf.. but I think it's supposed to be ok
[11:23] <usagent> ravi: could you tell me how to turn it on?
[11:23] <whta> slart: for simple moving files back and forth you'd say it's ok?
[11:23] <sheri_rao> usagent, tell me ur file browser nautilus go top menu EDIT>Preference
[11:23] <eck> shane634: it might be ok for converting a .tgz to a .deb, but when I tried to convert a .rpm I ended up having to do most of the installation manually
[11:23] <ravi> usagent: not from right here but you can go to preferences of nautilus
[11:23] <l90bpm> sudo aptitude install mozilla-plugin-gnash got it for me
[11:23] <shane634> eck, ok
[11:23] <l90bpm> so nm about the two piles
[11:23] <ravi> gah, sheri got it
[11:24] <ravi> hahah
[11:24] <Slart> whta: I'm not sure.. I haven't tried it.. but I've heard other people say it's ok... I just don't want to tell you it's ok when I haven't tried it myself.. perhaps someone else has
[11:24] <sheri_rao> usagent, in file browser nautilus go top menu EDIT>Preference (behavior)
[11:24] <froydinn> hi there folks, can anybody gimme a good link to help installing and setting up xgl ?
[11:24] <kakume> i'm trying to install ubuntu with the 64-bit alt cd, and my network won't auto or manual configure properly. The net card I'm trying to use is the nforce4 onboard ethernet. is anyone aware of a workaround?
[11:24] <Slart> whta: if I were you I'd create a small partition and try moving files back and forth
[11:24] <froydinn> ive done some that i found but with no luck
[11:24] <IdleOne> !xgl | froy
[11:24] <ubotu> froy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:25] <IdleOne> !xgl | froydinn
[11:25] <ubotu> froydinn: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:25] <froydinn> !xgl
[11:25] <froydinn> thx
[11:25] <sheri_rao> froydinn, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29 and http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28ATI.29
[11:25] <DrOnline> !
[11:26] <froydinn> !xgl
[11:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:26] <Vong> Im trying to get my nVidia GS 7900 Go card to work, and running into lots of problems.  can anyone help me out there?
[11:26] <shane634> Vong, you got msn?
[11:26] <l90bpm> is guarddog a good firewall?
[11:26] <bruenig> !firewall
[11:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:27] <Vong> yes shane634
[11:27] <shane634> add shane47143 i will help ya
[11:27] <l90bpm> ok... was just going down the page...  sorry :-$
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> cough, don't tell him about automatix, cough.
[11:27] <froydinn> does anybody know by if the nvidia geforce go 7300 has 3d for the xgl ? when i run the the glxinfo it does not say rendering: YES
[11:27] <bruenig> froydinn, #ubuntu-effects
[11:28] <froydinn> thx
[11:28] <cafuego_> froydinn: it does, provided you're using the closed/non-free nvidia drivers.
[11:29] <froydinn> humn closed non free ...triky .....
[11:29] <froydinn> lol
[11:29] <froydinn> well i a newbie u know i was following some howto that told me to updatethe nvidia-xgl drivers i think
[11:29] <froydinn> wich i did
[11:29] <cafuego_> Not really, just apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:29] <cafuego_> And change one word in the X config file.
[11:29] <arooni> how can i get my synaptics touchpad to automatically turn off when i'm typing, and auto turn back on when i'm done typing (after a certain delay etc...)???? (i have a sony laptop)
[11:30] <froydinn> i did the whole thing when i try to run the sessions that has the xgl it asks for the login goes in then comes back to the login again
[11:30] <froydinn> im gonna try cafuego
[11:30] <froydinn> thx
[11:30] <Jaguar> cafugo_: Talking about getting hardware acceleration for an Nvidia card (just joined)?
[11:33] <dthacker> where is sudo's default log?
[11:33] <mkquist> anyone know if installing grub on a very small partition on a 400gig drive might help boot probs on an older pc?
[11:34] <froydinn> hey folks can anybody gimme a hand on finding out if my nvidia geforce go 7300 has the 3d rendering ?
[11:34] <eck> dthacker: i think /var/log/auth
[11:34] <Xteven> hi, has anyone tried encfs ?
[11:34] <cefx> are there any gui ftp daemons?
[11:34] <kakume> i'm trying to install ubuntu with the 64-bit alt cd, and my network won't auto or manual configure properly. The net card I'm trying to use is the nforce4 onboard ethernet. is anyone aware of a workaround?
[11:34] <froydinn> xlginfo gimmes error in rendering
[11:34] <froydinn> :(
[11:35] <eck> a gui daemon?
[11:35] <cafuego_> cefx: For Linux? I doubt it.
[11:35] <eck> that would sort of defeat the point
[11:35] <BryanJK> i just wanted to say UBUNTU RULES
[11:35] <cefx> yeah
[11:35] <cefx> heh
[11:35] <dthacker> eck, /var/log/auth.log.    tnx!!
[11:35] <BryanJK> yes
[11:36] <factotum> yeah, ive had pretty good luck with 6.06 but i still have probs with 6.10
[11:36] <Slart> cefx: perhaps you might rephrase that question.. don't you want a ftp server with a graphical setup application?
[11:36] <Jaguar> !envy | froydinn
[11:36] <ubotu> froydinn: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[11:36] <Slart> cefx: or some kind of gui for configuring it
[11:36] <factotum> !Nvidia
[11:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:36] <cefx> Slart: GUI for configuring it.  GUI for setting it up or running it.
[11:37] <factotum> anyone know an app for adjusting gamma, preferably gtk or with a gui that will add settings to xorg.conf?
[11:37] <kakume> please, can someone help me configuring this network card? otherwise I'll need to switch to gentoo (ick)
[11:37] <l90bpm> where does democracytv hide at on the system?
[11:37] <eck> cefx: i don't think so, but the config file for vsftpd is very easy to understand
[11:37] <factotum> kakume, dont have another nic to use? bummer
[11:37] <l90bpm> I installed it but now I can't find it
[11:38] <Slart> cefx: then there might be sometihng out there... some linux people are picky about what you ask for =).. just ask for a ftpserver with some kind of gui for configuration and start/stop.. you might get better answers that way
[11:38] <factotum> l90bpm, check sound and video menu
[11:38] <arooni> how can i get my synaptics touchpad to automatically turn off when i'm typing, and auto turn back on when i'm done typing (after a certain delay etc...)???? (i have a sony laptop)
[11:38] <l90bpm> must not have installed properly...
[11:38] <kakume> factotum: it's not that I dont have another  NIC lying around, but I'd really like it if the stuff on my motherboard just worked, like it did in 32-bit edgy
[11:38] <eck> cefx: one of the problems is that historically a lot of ftp servers have had big security problems, so you don't want to go with some random ftp daemon that you found with a gui.... and i think the two most widely used ones (proftpd and vsftpd) both lack gui configs
[11:39] <trond> cefx: Install gproftd
[11:39] <spikeyone> quit
[11:39] <cefx> eck: I'm having problems with vsftpd.
[11:39] <cefx> heh
[11:39] <trond> cefx: You can set everything up from there
[11:39] <eck> cefx: with what exactly?
[11:39] <cefx> [R]  550 Permission denied.
[11:39] <cefx> someone uploading/changing dir's
[11:39] <factotum> l90bpm, ah gotcha. I had the same probelm with freebsd with an nforce2, recompiled the kernel
[11:39] <cefx> permissions mostly
[11:40] <factotum> nforce didnt play nice out of the box
[11:40] <L4J> hello
[11:40] <cefx> maybe 022 instead of 077
[11:40] <new_to_ubuntu> hello chanel
[11:40] <cafuego_> cefx: Did you enable uploading in the cfg file?
[11:40] <BryanJK> for a reccomendation, im going to do a dual boot with all my backup on a single NTFS partition
[11:40] <new_to_ubuntu> I have just upgraded to feisty
[11:40] <ompaul> new_to_ubuntu, then you should be in #ubuntu+1
[11:40] <new_to_ubuntu> and I have the main user profile in kubuntu and had another secondary user on ubuntu both on the same computer
[11:40] <mkquist> hey folks - can grub be installed on a fat32 partition?
[11:41] <bruenig> new_to_ubuntu, #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[11:41] <Jaguar> !enter | new_to_ubuntu
[11:41] <ubotu> new_to_ubuntu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:41] <BryanJK> blah, so heres the question...  can I access Linux partitions from a windows install?
[11:41] <cefx> yeah i did
[11:41] <cefx> I changed the permissions...
[11:41] <cefx> from 022 to 077
[11:41] <CheshireViking> mkquist, yes it can, I've got a multi boot system with Grub installed on my Win XP Fat32 primary drive
[11:42] <bruenig> BryanJK, with fs-driver.org you can
[11:42] <BryanJK> okay
[11:42] <L4J> I am using Ubuntu Dapper Drake and am very happy with it. I have always used my USB, by simply plugging in the USB Cable and clicking the icon on the desktop. But I recently purchased a new camera that saves the files in ".raw" format.... When I use my windows computer it will allow to run a .exe program and convert the photos... But I cannot figure out a way to convert them using Ubuntu... any help would be greatly appreciated.
[11:42] <mkquist> CheshireViking - thanx
[11:42] <BryanJK> ill check that out, thanks
[11:42] <Heroin01> what is the default password for a fresh mysql install?
[11:42] <mbonnick> hello. i need some help with my display. I just bought an Acer X191W 19" Widescreen but the display is all messed up. There is an overlap at the side that I can't get rid of
[11:42] <eck> Heroin01: iirc there is none
[11:42] <Jaguar> bruenig: Have anything like that for Ext3?
[11:43] <bruenig> !info dcraw | L4J
[11:43] <ubotu> l4j: dcraw: decode raw digital camera images. In component main, is extra. Version 8.38-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 344 kB
[11:43] <bruenig> Jaguar, it works for ext3 and ext2
[11:43] <bruenig> even though I know it says ext2
[11:43] <carpediem> L4J: I think it depends on the camera.  I think raw is different for each camera, as I recall.
[11:43] <BryanJK> okay, and is it possible to access a windows ntfs partition through Linux?
[11:43] <Jaguar> bruenig: Ah, now I see it, I only glanced at the page and saw only Ext2 :)
[11:43] <L4J> So how would I convert the images?
[11:44] <PriceChild> Heroin01, just login as root from localhost, no password
[11:44] <preaction> !ntfs | BryanJK
[11:44] <ubotu> BryanJK: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:44] <bruenig> BryanJK, by default, you can mount and read it. You need ntfs-3g if you want to be able to write
[11:44] <L4J> I have a Philips PT44434... If that helps
[11:44] <bruenig> L4J, dcraw like ubotu said
[11:44] <Heroin01> eck ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[11:44] <BryanJK> okay
[11:45] <BryanJK> and lets say I have 2 partitions on windows which are also ntfs, it can read those also?
[11:46] <bruenig> BryanJK, yeah...........
[11:46] <BryanJK> okay........... im just making sure
[11:46] <bruenig> if it can read one ntfs partition...........
[11:46] <kakume> ooooookayyy, I just solved my problem with the ethernet card on nforce 4
[11:46] <factotum> awsome, gentoo then?
[11:46] <BryanJK> yea
[11:47] <andy101> anyone know how I can get a list of packages that I have installed that aren't dependancies of others packages? I am thinking apt-cache might be able to help but can't figure out how to do it
[11:47] <kakume> it seems that the network card that is plugged in has switched from eth0 on 32-bit to eth1 on 64-bit :/
[11:47] <eck> Heroin01: hmm... maybe you can set it if you run dpkg-reconfigure
[11:47] <eck> just a guess
[11:47] <kakume> wierdness
[11:47] <factotum> hah! of all things!
[11:47] <colbert> how do I make a program that starts in a window, start at a certain place on the screen ??
[11:47] <BryanJK> and a last few things, what would be a wiki/site/document to read up on Linux File systems... like about all the /dev/ ect because im a huge noob at linux
[11:48] <eck> colbert: in gnome? i think you can do this with devilspie
[11:48] <colbert> eck: Yes I am in gnome
[11:48] <bruenig> BryanJK, for linux filesystems, wikipedia will do. If you are talking about how to mount partitions,
[11:48] <colbert> ok how do I set up devilspie ?
[11:48] <bruenig> !ntfs
[11:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:49] <Flannel> bruenig: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[11:49] <BryanJK> noob no, like all about it... like where what kinds of files go where, and about how it uses the entire filesystem
[11:49] <comradevik> is it possible to symlink to a usb device
[11:49] <BryanJK> I pretty much know nothing about how it does all its files
[11:49] <peepsalot> does anyone know why Totem can't(and never could) play a damn thing on my computer?
[11:49] <eck> colbert: http://wiki.foosel.net/linux/devilspie
[11:49] <bruenig> ext3 reiser, etc.
[11:49] <eck> !info devilspie
[11:49] <ubotu> devilspie: find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17.1-1 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 124 kB
[11:49] <bruenig> that is what I was thinking by filesystem
[11:49] <BryanJK> Well, nvm
[11:49] <factotum> peepsalot, the application, or just no sound?
[11:49] <peepsalot> mplayer seems to work, which would suggest that I have the codecs installed.
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy
[11:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:50] <mkpaa> anyone else noticed a problem with last 2 ubuntu kernel updates. they fail to recognize a common integrated realtek ethernet adapter. had to start with kernel .15-26 and everything worked fine
[11:50] <Oswy> Alright!
[11:50] <peepsalot> factotum, no sound for sound files, no video for video files, it just doesn't do anything
[11:50] <Oswy> Finally finished.
[11:50] <peepsalot> i'm so sick of it
[11:50] <mlankhorst> oh my god ubuntu r0x0rs the big 111!!! :p
[11:50] <factotum> probably the same reason I could never grab photos off my powershot with 6.10, I'll just never know
[11:50] <smarteeo> how do you change the number of lines that scroll when you move the mousewheel, its driving me crazy
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> mlankhorst: lmao
[11:50] <ThinkingMan> So I'm editing fstab, and I noticed ubuntu is using uuids instead of labels like I'm used to (/dev/sda4 for example), is there an advantage to that, and is it cool to still use /dev/sda4 instead of the uuid?
[11:50] <Oswy> Can anyone help me set up a net install, then, please?
[11:50] <bruenig> !netinstall
[11:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:51] <martian_manhunte> Please, I need some help setting up my Unbuntu XServer for a GeForce FX 5200
[11:51] <eck> ThinkingMan: personally i prefer labels, but they are pretty similar, there isn't a huge advantage either way
[11:51] <Oswy> I have a thingy, but I think the commands are for Linux only, and I'm on XP
[11:51] <Lord_Illidan> !uuid
[11:51] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How can I disable cpufreq?
[11:51] <peepsalot> i just don't understand why totem is the default player, when it doesn't seem capable of _doing anything_.  Am I the only person with this problem
[11:51] <eck> ThinkingMan: the main reason they are used is in case device names change
[11:51] <Oswy> I had a couple of people here before who were gonna help me, but they left.
[11:51] <Oswy> :/
[11:51] <soothsay> peepsalot: Did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:51] <Lord_Illidan> peppsalot: I agree
[11:51] <ThinkingMan> eck: OK, so the short answer is not much and go ahead and use /dev/sda4
[11:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> peepsalot: Get the codecs before you say that :P
[11:52] <eck> yeah, that's fine
[11:52] <ThinkingMan> thanks eck
[11:52] <peepsalot> if i didn't have the codecs, wouldn't mplayer not work either?
[11:52] <Oswy> So anyone know how to do a netinstall over XP?
[11:52] <smarteeo> any ideas anyone?
[11:52] <soothsay> Mplayer uses ffmpeg
[11:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I used to hate totem, but I found it's "decent", though the web plugin is cheesey
[11:52] <smarteeo> how do i change the number of lines my mouse wheel scrolls
[11:52] <andy101> peepsalot: It's the fault of the US governement with their DMCA and Software Patents, there's nought Ubuntu can do
[11:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> you could get gstreamer-0.10-ffmpeg
[11:52] <soothsay> peepsalot: totem uses gstreamer (by default)
[11:52] <Lord_Illidan> I have the codecs, and still....vlc and gxine work better than emacs/totem
[11:53] <soothsay> peepsalot: vs. ffmpeg for Mplayer. They have different backends
[11:53] <soothsay> Lord_Illidan: emacs plays video?
[11:53] <jason_> Hey all, I got a quick question. Have any of you been able to install Wine 0.9.33?
[11:53] <Fredle> emacs can do everything
[11:53] <soothsay> heh
[11:53] <eck> at the end of the day they all use libavcodec :-)
[11:54] <peepsalot> and i could have sworn iu removed this scourge from my hard drive but it somehow it seems to have reared it's head again.
[11:54] <Flannel> Fredle: that's because emacs is an operating system, not a text editor.
[11:54] <Fredle> but I prever vim..
[11:54] <Oswy> Dammit.
[11:54] <ThinkingMan> next quick question how do I get my newly mounted partition to appear in the "places" menu in nautilus?
[11:54] <Fredle> Flannel, emacsos..  but that's just linux with emacs..
[11:54] <ThinkingMan> I'm assuming I add a symlink somewhere....
[11:54] <ThinkingMan> the question is where....
[11:54] <Flannel> ThinkingMan: places menu has anything mounted in /media/ I believe.
[11:54] <Fredle> I see it as a developpers joke.. who uses emacs..
[11:55] <ThinkingMan> hrm....
[11:56] <Fredle> ThinkingMan, it should not be mounted the good old unixfashion way
[11:56] <Berzerke1> Hi
[11:56] <Berzerke1> I'm back
[11:56] <Berzerke1> lol
[11:56] <Berzerke1> I installed it ok
[11:56] <brynk> my bluetooth headset keeps disconnecting, anyone know what i can do about that?
[11:56] <Oswy> Nobody knows how to do a netinstall over XP?
[11:56] <eck> i have things mounted the 'old fashioned' way that show up in places...
[11:56] <Flannel> !install | Oswy
[11:56] <Berzerke1> but it's still giving me the same error when I try to boot it
[11:56] <ubotu> Oswy: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:56] <eck> i have no idea why though
[11:57] <ThinkingMan> Fredle, what do you mean by "it"
[11:57] <fr500> Oswy: there is an entru on the wiki for that, it pretty easy
[11:57] <eck> aha
[11:57] <Flannel> Oswy: The old OS youre installing over doesn't matter
[11:57] <eck> you can drag folders there
[11:57] <Oswy> k
[11:57] <Oswy> Cool.
[11:57] <Fredle> ThinkingMan, your filesystem
[11:57] <linxeh> whats the best divx player for linux that can do upscaling etc ?
[11:57] <Oswy> I just need a router to transfer it, right?
[11:57] <linxeh> vlc doesnt seem to do any interpolation
[11:57] <eck> you need an internet connection, not necessarily a router
[11:57] <IgorSobreira> hey...how can i get all the video plugins...with the mplayer??
[11:57] <Oswy> Right.
[11:57] <Oswy> But don't I need to transfer it from one comp to another?
[11:58] <eck> no, you can just get it off of http/ftp
[11:58] <eck> from a public site i mean
[11:58] <Oswy> Hmm, k.
[11:58] <Fredle> make yourself a proxy :-)
[11:58] <eck> you can do the netinstall using any mirror
[11:58] <ThinkingMan> Fredle, maybe I'm misunderstanding you, what do you mean by good ole unixfashion way?
[11:58] <Alonea> How do I configure my wacom tablet to work correctly with the gimp? It wasn't listed under input devices.
[11:58] <l90bpm> I have an amd sempron but for some reason only the 64 packages install properly??  any ideas?
[11:59] <Fredle> ThinkingMan, wel, time like..  need to mount a filesystem manualy
[11:59] <Fredle> as far as I know most of the distro's out there do that kind a stuff automaticaly
[11:59] <ThinkingMan> Fredle, yeah, I'm adding it to /etc/fstab, is there an issue with that?
[11:59] <Fredle> if it's some removable media
[12:00] <eck> ThinkingMan: i think it might be doing it based on things mounted by lable/uuid... you can drag and drop the mountpoint into the sidebar to have it show up though
[12:00] <linxeh> l90bpm: not all semprons are 64bit
[12:00] <eck> all of my partitions with labels show up there
[12:00] <Fredle> /etc/fstab is still good, for servers. but for desktops (kde.. gnome.. others) there are alternatives now
[12:00] <l90bpm> well no.. mine is not 64 bit.. that's just it