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| sanityx | Anybody here? | 03:08 |
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| sanityx | How do I control what services run at boot with upstart? | 03:08 |
| sanityx | This channel is ALIVE with activity. | 03:37 |
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| AlexExtreme | hmm... if i have a job with, for example, both 'stop on foobar 0' and 'stop on foobar 1', i know I can get the actual event name, foobar, in the scripts with the UPSTART_EVENT variable, but how can I get the arguments to the foobar event, in this case 0 or 1? | 12:57 |
| === AlexExtreme hopes that made sense | ||
| Keybuk | $1, $2, $3 | 12:59 |
| AlexExtreme | ah | 01:00 |
| AlexExtreme | ok | 01:00 |
| AlexExtreme | thanks | 01:00 |
| Keybuk | this works for exec too, through an evil trick | 01:00 |
| AlexExtreme | yeah | 01:01 |
| Keybuk | I have yet to work out the pattern by which the scrap van comes around our street | 01:06 |
| Keybuk | SETI could analyse the periods between visits and discover new and unhidden depths in the complexity of the universe | 01:06 |
| AlexExtreme | :p | 01:07 |
| _ion | They're sending you secret messages through the periods between visits. | 01:07 |
| _ion | You're not schizophrenic if they're really sending messages to you. | 01:08 |
| Keybuk | that's paranoid | 01:09 |
| Keybuk | schizophrenic is when you send messages to yourself | 01:10 |
| _ion | I was finally able to order a decent monitor to replace these blussy CRTs. | 01:24 |
| _ion | blurry | 01:24 |
| AlexExtreme | _ion, LCD? or another CRT? | 01:28 |
| _ion | Samsung 226BW, a 22" widescreen flat monitor. | 01:31 |
| AlexExtreme | nice | 01:31 |
| AlexExtreme | this LCD has managed to get the outline of my top gnome panel etched into the screen... | 01:31 |
| _ion | :-) | 01:31 |
| AlexExtreme | shows how much I use it :p | 01:32 |
| AlexExtreme | btw | 01:42 |
| AlexExtreme | if I do this in my job for system-tools-backends: | 01:42 |
| AlexExtreme | exec STB_NO_DAEMON="y" /usr/bin/system-tools-backends | 01:42 |
| AlexExtreme | will upstart interpret that correctly by passing it to a shell and behave as you'd expect it to? | 01:43 |
| _ion | exec env STB_NO_DAEMON="y" /usr/bin/system-tools-backends | 01:45 |
| _ion | Even better: | 01:46 |
| _ion | env STB_NO_DAEMON=y | 01:47 |
| _ion | exec /usr/bin/system-tools-backends | 01:47 |
| AlexExtreme | ah | 01:47 |
| AlexExtreme | cool | 01:47 |
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| mbiebl | Keybuk: I think upstarts sysv compat utils are not compatible enough ;-) | 03:13 |
| mbiebl | I noticed that while adopting upstart for Gentoo. | 03:13 |
| mbiebl | When in runlevel 0 or 6, reboot/halt/poweroff when called without -f, should *not* call shutdown. | 03:15 |
| mbiebl | Other distros I checked do not have a "-f" in the final halt/reboot call. | 03:16 |
| === AlexExtreme noticed that about 5 minutes ago ;) | ||
| mbiebl | I think it would also be nice, if the links would be the same as with sysvinit | 03:17 |
| mbiebl | poweroff -> halt, reboot -> halt | 03:18 |
| mbiebl | and not halt->reboot, poweroff -> reboot | 03:18 |
| mbiebl | But that's just nitpicking. | 03:18 |
| mbiebl | Besides that it was astonishingly painless to get upstart running on Gentoo ;-) | 03:19 |
| AlexExtreme | Yeah, but then it'll be astonishingly painful to actually write upstart-native jobs for it ;) | 03:20 |
| mbiebl | yeah, that is a different kettle of fish | 03:22 |
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| AlexExtreme | btw, i've got some new upstart-native jobs for frugalware here: http://ftp.frugalware.org/pub/other/upstart-jobs/upstart-jobs/etc/event.d/ | 03:22 |
| AlexExtreme | i haven't actually tested them yet though, i'm setting up a virtual machine because i don't want to kill my main machine :) | 03:23 |
| mbiebl | hehe | 03:23 |
| AlexExtreme | they're kinda ugly atm, i'm sure some stuff could be done better, and there's no event based networking or mounting yet | 03:23 |
| mbiebl | when do you expect the first frugalware release with a fully upstart-native boot? | 03:25 |
| AlexExtreme | 0.7 stable will definitely have it, it won't get into 0.6 because that's gonna be released in 4 days | 03:26 |
| AlexExtreme | i'll try to get it into the development repo quite early in 0.7's development | 03:26 |
| mbiebl | cool. what is your strategy for frugalware: will you dump sysvinit completely and go upstart only? | 03:27 |
| mbiebl | Or will you ship both? | 03:27 |
| AlexExtreme | just upstart | 03:27 |
| mbiebl | Yeah, that makes it easier... | 03:27 |
| AlexExtreme | but we'll leave the sysv compat stuff there for proprietry apps which provide their own init script like vmware | 03:27 |
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| mbiebl | Keybuk: about the "-f" behaviour of the compat tools | 03:32 |
| mbiebl | Should I file a bug report? | 03:32 |
| AlexExtreme | probably a good idea, then there's no reason for him to forget it ;) | 03:32 |
| mbiebl | I just wanted to get his opinion first, but then it seems he is not around atm. | 03:33 |
| mbiebl | AlexExtreme: Have you also written the udev rules already? | 03:36 |
| AlexExtreme | http://ftp.frugalware.org/pub/other/upstart-jobs/upstart-jobs/etc/udev/rules.d/85-upstart.rules | 03:36 |
| AlexExtreme | that's a base set of rules, maybe more could be added later | 03:36 |
| AlexExtreme | Yep, he's not around ;) | 03:36 |
| mbiebl | *grin* | 03:37 |
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| === AlexExtreme prays and types reboot into the VM | ||
| AlexExtreme | it seems my prayers have been answered. it works :) | 03:56 |
| mbiebl | way cool! | 03:56 |
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| AlexUpstart | nothing seems to have gone wrong so far, although hald is being a little more verbose than I would like ;) | 03:59 |
| AlexUpstart | http://frugalware.org/paste/955 | 04:02 |
| === AlexExtreme hopes shutting down will work now | ||
| AlexExtreme | awesome... it worked :) | 04:05 |
| mbiebl | nice | 04:18 |
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