[12:13] <stdin> most_known53: have you burnt it?
[12:13] <deiwales> it's a menu that slides across when u want to go in deeper?
[12:13] <most_known53> yes
[12:13] <most_known53> i burned the image
[12:13] <Alonea> anyone know where I can get the gpm driver so my wacom tablet will work correctly? the links on http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Wacom-Tablet-HOWTO.html#ss3.1   don't work.
[12:14] <stdin> most_known53: out the DVD in, then open konsole and type "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[12:14] <most_known53> what will that do
[12:14] <stdin> deiwales: probably not, it doesn't have it now, and the features are frozen
[12:15] <stdin> most_known53: add the DVD as a repository
[12:15] <deiwales> ohhh
[12:15] <deiwales> thanks
[12:15] <deiwales> i'm sure many will try to add it in the final release
[12:15] <deiwales> i like opensuse
[12:15] <most_known53> so that will et me install the software
[12:16] <deiwales> but kubuntu was the dogs bits for me
[12:16] <stdin> deiwales: you can ask the guys in #kubuntu-devel if it will be available as an extra package tho
[12:16] <neo_> Duhhhh OK how do I open the KControl
[12:16] <stdin> most_known53: yeah
[12:16] <stdin> neo_: use system settings, it's the kubuntu version
[12:16] <deiwales> stdin: thanks
[12:17] <stdin> neo_: if you really need kcontrol, type "Alt-F2" then type in kcontrol
[12:17] <neo_> ook duh thanks being a newbie with  linux makes mme look stupiid
[12:18] <stdin> neo_: nah, I'm here to answer questions. and the only stupid question is one not asked
[12:18] <stdin> :)
[12:18] <mrbrdo> hello
[12:18] <niles> ummm yea, my sound card is not being recognized.
[12:18] <niles> http://rafb.net/p/UaF5KO61.html   its a sound blaster
[12:19] <mrbrdo> my 32bit chroot uname reports to be x86_64, even though it's not, and now i cannot install nvidia binary drivers
[12:19] <stdin> !soundblaster | niles
[12:19] <ubotu> niles: soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[12:19] <mrbrdo> how can i change it
[12:19] <niles> my soundblaster was working.  then i rebooted. then NOT WORKING
[12:19] <niles> http://rafb.net/p/UaF5KO61.html
[12:20] <stdin> mrbrdo: you can't the kernel is the same for the real system and the chroot, you can't load 2 kernels. there is a 64bit nvidia driver tho
[12:20] <stdin> !nvidia
[12:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:21] <mrbrdo> stdin: yes but i can't install that in the chroot either
[12:21] <mrbrdo> because all the libs etc are 32bit
[12:21] <stdin> why do you need to load the driver in a chroot?
[12:22] <khaije1> i can't wait to replace xubuntu6.10 with kubuntu7.04 on my laptop
[12:23] <neo_> just a suggestion to your video problem but you might try editing xorg.conf
[12:23] <mhall53> ok i did the sudo apt-cd rom command now what do i do
[12:23] <neo_> or maybe not im a newbie
[12:23] <khaije1> i bet it'll run faster too, i just don't know about these odd assumptions that gtk is faster than QT, i've never seen proof of that anywhere
[12:23] <mrbrdo> stdin: some opengl apps don't work if i don't install the driver in the chroot
[12:24] <mrbrdo> stdin: as weird as it sounds i'm quite sure
[12:24] <stdin> mhall53: you'll need to run "sudo apt-get update" to update the package list, then when you try to install software, it will grab it from the DVD (if the DVD has the latest version)
[12:25] <wsjunior> how to get rid of the beagle gtk gui and prevent it of loading at system startup? i would like to have beagle here but i really hate this gtk gui that is loaded everytime i log into kde..
[12:25] <mhall53> after i do that how do i install the programs
[12:26] <stdin> mrbrdo: don't see why, you could try binding /lib/modules to the chroot /lib/modules
[12:26] <stdin> mhall53: with adept
[12:26] <mrbrdo> let me try that
[12:26] <stdin> mhall53: Kmenu -> system -> Adept Manager
[12:27] <mhall53> ok is that the gui program everyone told me to install programs with
[12:27] <skogen> is there any way to go from kubuntu to ubuntu?(I would use gnome instead)
[12:27] <stdin> mhall53: yeah
[12:27] <mhall53> because i tought it started with an S
[12:27] <blue_> apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[12:27] <skogen> thanks
[12:27] <mhall53> thx
[12:28] <mrbrdo> seems like it works stdin
[12:28] <mhall53> whats a good firewall
[12:28] <stdin> mhall53: the Ubuntu version does (synaptic), but nit the kubuntu one
[12:28] <blue_> then at your logon screen choose GNOME instead of KDE
[12:28] <mhall53> i dont kno if i have one installed
[12:28] <stdin> mrbrdo: cool, it was just a guess :P
[12:28] <crackhead_25> what's the typical keystroke to restart the xserver?
[12:28] <stdin> !firewall | mhall53
[12:28] <ubotu> mhall53: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:28] <stdin> crackhead_25: you can do it from the login screen
[12:29] <blue_> ctrl alt backspace restart x server
[12:29] <stdin> crackhead_25: or you can press "Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace
[12:29] <stdin> mhall53: and, before you ask :P, you don't need an anti-virus
[12:29] <mhall53> lol ok
[12:30] <mrbrdo> stdin: i do have one more problem though, and no one can figure it out.. i'm trying to run World of warcraft trough wine, and it runs fine (but slow) with Direct3d, but with opengl it crashes with: X Error of failed request:  BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error). Any idea what it could be? tried everything
[12:30] <mrbrdo> i tried the ia32-libs+wine and chroot32+wine and same thing for both
[12:30] <liam> does anyone here use a wireless card with a RT61 chipset? i have just managed to install all the drivers and get everything working BUT the internet is going extremley slowly. Anyone have any ideas?
[12:30] <mrbrdo> i have direct rendering and glxgears and other ogl apps seem to run fine
[12:31] <mhall53> damn its not installing stuff off dvd its downloading it
[12:32] <stdin> mrbrdo: that sounds like a Xorg error, and i'm no Xorg expert, but you can try asking in #xorg
[12:32] <blue_> just out of intereast how does wine manage to run directX games?
[12:33] <niles> why do i have to remove my sound card, boot, shutdown, insert sound card, reboot  just to have my sound card recognized
[12:33] <mrbrdo> stdin: okay sure will
[12:33] <londondave> hi all: k3b problem- if i burn mp3s as a data disc making sure the disc is finalized, it won't play in my cd player. Burn the same mp3s using the same make of disc with nero on XP and it works-any ideas?
[12:34] <sidnelson> how i play .ram files ? what program i need
[12:34] <stdin> sidnelson: ram = real media
[12:35] <mhall53> if i need to install something i download if it gives me the option to select os do i choose ubuntu if it dosent have kubuntu
[12:35] <stdin> sidnelson: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:35] <blue_> yeah mhall
[12:35] <sidnelson> ok thanks
[12:35] <blue_> worth a try anyway :P
[12:36] <stdin> ubuntu is kubuntu, just without gnome and with KDE, they use the same packages
[12:37] <miki_> bueh, hi i have problem coz i want to install kubuntu, i haven't got CD and here is 00:30 :P i want to install kubuntu now, Someone know how? i think about vmware but how?
[12:37] <skogen> is there any guide for how to use apache?
[12:37] <stdin> !apache
[12:37] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:37] <mhall53> lol i have no idea what im doing im new from windows
[12:38] <blue_> how are you goin to install linux without a CD?
[12:38] <blue_> or are you going to run it in a virtual machine?
[12:39] <stdin> miki_: download the cd image and use that in vmware, or there is a pre installed vmware image you can get
[12:39] <miki_> stdin ok i try
[12:39] <londondave> is there a known problem with cdrtools for kubuntu, the developer says to stay clear of deb based packages?
[12:39] <sstchur> Are there any good apps for KDE (or linux in general) that do publishing?  (a la Microsoft Publisher) ?
[12:40] <stdin> sstchur: open office doesn't do it for you?
[12:40] <bipolar> sstchur: ms publisher isn't so much for 'publishing'
[12:40] <niles> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:40] <niles> apt-get update gives me that crap
[12:40] <bipolar> sstchur: you mean you're looking for something to do layouts and such?
[12:41] <apol_away> niles: run that command they tell you to solve it
[12:41] <apol_away> use sudo to gain privileges
[12:41] <vxp> Hello
[12:41] <blue_> www.kde-apps.org
[12:41] <niles> oh i have double repos
[12:41] <K`zan> Anyone know if there is a way to route a specific mixer channel to USB headphones?
[12:42] <sstchur> bipolar: Maybe publishing wasn't the right word, but yeah, I need something that does more or less what Publisher does
[12:42] <blue_> nothing in open office work for ya?
[12:42] <bipolar> sstchur: openoffice can do a lot of it. there's also koffice's programs.
[12:42] <sstchur> stdin: Open Office actually might.  I made the assumption (perhaps a bad assumption) that OO does more or less what MS Office does, which won't do what I need
[12:43] <blue_> K'zan, sorry mate i know nothing about linux and sound
[12:43] <bipolar> sstchur: openoffice probbly can do what you need.
[12:43] <khaije1> !htsearch
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htsearch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <sstchur> bipolar: I'll give it a try
[12:44] <skogen> ! beryl
[12:44] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:44] <khaije1> how can i get htsearch on ubuntu?
[12:44] <blue_> sstchur : look on that website kde-apps.org for KDE apps.....
[12:44] <bipolar> sstchur: for more real publishing needs, tex seems to be the way to go.
[12:44] <khaije1> i can't seem to find it and kdevelop asks for it
[12:44] <mhall53> after download the .deb files how do i install them
[12:45] <stdin> !deb | mhall53
[12:45] <ubotu> mhall53: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:45] <blue_> mhall, check the unofficial ubuntu starter guide for how to
[12:45] <blue_> or that :P
[12:46] <sstchur> bipolar: Oh ok... I'll look into that, thanks
[12:46] <blue_> my mate has a problem with his wireless card, a RT61, i finally managed to get it to "work" but its so slow its painful
[12:47] <tuxligo> los que hablan espaol vallan a #kubuntu-es
[12:47] <stdin> tel him to look at the wireless docs
[12:47] <stdin> !wifi
[12:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:48] <mhall53> i dont kno whatim doing lol
[12:48] <blue_> thankyou hes readin them now lol feel kinda sorry for him cuz i have a RT2500 and works fine :D
[12:48] <tjl30> Ingredients
[12:48] <tjl30> Serving: Serves 4 to 6
[12:49] <tjl30>     * 4 large Idaho potatoes, peeled
[12:49] <tjl30>     * 2 Cups panko (coarse Japanese breadcrumbs)
[12:49] <tjl30>     * 1 Cup cornflakes, crushed
[12:49] <tjl30>     * Canola oil, for frying
[12:49] <blue_> any way to change the default web browser, like from kopete?
[12:49] <tjl30>     * 2 large eggs, well beaten
[12:49] <tjl30>     * Coarse salt and freshly ground pepper
[12:49] <tjl30> Directions
[12:49] <tjl30>    1. Using a vegetable peeler, peel and cut potatoes into 3 1/2-by-1/2-inch pieces. Transfer pieces to a large bowl. Run potatoes under cold water until the water runs clear, about 10 minutes. In a small bowl, combine panko and cornflakes; set aside.
[12:49] <tjl30>    2. In a deep pot, heat 3 inches oil over medium-high heat until it reaches between 280 degrees; and 300 degrees; on a deep-frying thermometer. Drain potatoes in a colander. Pat dry with a kitchen towel. Add potatoes to hot oil in batches and fry for 2 minutes. Drain on a paper towel-lined baking sheet. Transfer to a freezer until well chilled. Remove chilled potatoes from freezer and coat with beaten eggs and then panko mixture.
[12:49] <tjl30>    3. Reheat the oil over medium-high heat until it reaches 360 degrees;. Add potatoes in batches and fry until golden brown, 3 to 4 minutes. Drain on a clean paper towel-lined baking sheet. Season with salt and pepper. Serve immediately.
[12:49] <tjl30> o shoot
[12:49] <tjl30> sry for that
[12:49] <tjl30> is there a way to get back what I emptied from the trash bin?
[12:50] <stdin> no
[12:50] <blue_> not spamming would be a good start
[12:50] <sstchur> bipolar: I'm not seeing Tex... what's it listed under?
[12:50] <tuxligo> hi!
[12:50] <blue_> but no there isnt, well not easily, unless your a digital forensic guy :P
[12:50] <tuxligo> :p
[12:50] <mhall53> ok one last question
[12:50] <blue_> shoot!
[12:50] <tuxligo> XD
[12:50] <bipolar> sstchur: well, tex is a generic term. search for latex
[12:51] <mhall53> how do i install everything in the adept manager program
[12:51] <blue_> uh.... y?
[12:51] <tuxligo> good bye ubunters, and kubunters, etc
[12:51] <blue_> nite man
[12:51] <stdin> mhall53: why, in the name of all that is holy, would you want to?
[12:51] <blue_> ditto ^^
[12:51] <skog_> ! beryl
[12:51] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:52] <mhall53> becuse i dont kno what to install
[12:52] <blue_> lol, just install what you want when you want
[12:52] <bipolar> mhall53: hahaha
[12:52] <bipolar> mhall53: what do you want?
[12:52] <stdin> mhall53: I doubt you have enough disk space to install it all,
[12:52] <mhall53> i have 2 300  gig hds
[12:52] <stdin> mhall53: unless you have a few TB spare
[12:53] <mhall53> damn
[12:53] <mhall53> :(
[12:53] <blue_> what sorta thing are you after?
[12:53] <bipolar> jeez... wtf was up with him?
[12:53] <blue_> lol that was funny
[12:54] <blue_> berly > vista :D
[12:55] <stdin> pile of c**p > vista
[12:55] <stagedd> I don't like beryl tbh :| then again I don't like vista :|
[12:55] <bipolar> beryl.... beryl kicks ass on anything vista has
[12:55] <Hasrat_USA> what is the difference between free and open-source software? can i find it in google?
[12:55] <bipolar> Hasrat_USA: hahah
[12:55] <blue_> opensource you can change, free you can use
[12:55] <bipolar> Hasrat_USA: google "ultimate flamewar" :D
[12:55] <stagedd> open source, simply put you can read the code yourself :P free... is just free :P
[12:56] <stdin> Hasrat_USA: free means no cost, open source means toy can get the source code, modify it or whatever you want
[12:56] <bipolar> free as in speech
[12:56] <stagedd> I prefer beer in this case ;)
[12:56] <Hasrat_USA> but you would have to pay for an open-source software?
[12:56] <blue_> look it up on wikipedia for a better explaination mate
[12:56] <stagedd> some cases yes
[12:56] <stdin> Hasrat_USA: no
[12:56] <stagedd> most cases no
[12:56] <stagedd> =)
[12:56] <stdin> Hasrat_USA: only for support
[12:57] <StagedD> In case of ubuntu and related projects that is true
[12:57] <Hasrat_USA> then how is a free software different from open source one?
[12:57] <stdin> you can't "sell" open source softare
[12:57] <StagedD> let me set an example
[12:57] <Hasrat_USA> i can't sell free software either
[12:57] <bipolar> Hasrat_USA: philosophy
[12:57] <StagedD> http://www.foobar2000.org/ <- is a music player
[12:57] <Hasrat_USA> ok let me visit tha
[12:57] <StagedD> it's free, but you can't read how it's been put together
[12:57] <Hasrat_USA> t
[12:57] <bipolar> Hasrat_USA: of course you can sell free software. you just have to give you're code along with it.
[12:58] <StagedD> you can't access the "code"
[12:58] <stdin> Hasrat_USA: look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software
[12:58] <StagedD> yep
[12:58] <utnubuk> is beryl very resource-intensive??
[12:58] <blue_> not too bad
[12:58] <bipolar> Hasrat_USA: read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_software#Open_source_software_versus_free_software
[12:58] <stdin> utnubuk: depends on your hardwarw
[12:58] <stdin> *hardware
[12:58] <StagedD> cheers bipolar :)
[12:58] <Hasrat_USA> ok foobar is a free software. i cant access its source code
[12:59] <utnubuk> stdin: yeah... trying to find min sys reqs
[12:59] <StagedD> yep :D
[12:59] <blue_> beryl runs fine on my 2.2AMD with 7900GS
[12:59] <Hasrat_USA> do i have to pay for foobar to use it?
[12:59] <StagedD> no :)
[12:59] <bipolar> Hasrat_USA: your confusing gratis with libre
[12:59] <Hasrat_USA> then is it free or open-source? just tell me
[12:59] <bipolar> Hasrat_USA: unfortunetly, the english translation for both words is 'free'
[12:59] <stdin> Hasrat_USA: Free isn't the same as open
[01:00] <stdin> free as in liberty
[01:00] <Hasrat_USA> crap lol i don't understand squat sorry to bother you guys brb
[01:00] <bipolar> Hasrat_USA: think, free beer vs. Free Speech
[01:00] <Hasrat_USA> utnubuk: naw
[01:01] <utnubuk> naw?
[01:01] <blue_> how do i talk to a specific person in here like you guys are doin? im usin Konversation
[01:02] <Hasrat_USA> no it's not a resource hogger
[01:02] <aseigo> blue_: you mean like this?
[01:02] <blue_> yes!
[01:02] <utnubuk> cool ty
[01:02] <aseigo> blue_: just start typing the first letter or three of the name and hit the tab key
[01:02] <aseigo> blue_: tab completion is divine.
[01:02] <blue_> aseigo: thankyou man!
[01:02] <aseigo> np
[01:02] <StagedD> hehe definitely
[01:02] <blue_> aseigo: tis awsome
[01:03] <blue_> utnubuk: just try berly and see, though i think you have to have the right drivers installed for your GFX card
[01:03] <mateus> Is possibile remove Switch user from Kicker?
[01:03] <StagedD> switched to kde today, I have to admit it's vastly more mature  imo then Gnome...
[01:04] <utnubuk> blue_: ty man im gonna give it a shot, even tho my laptop only has 512 ram and no vc heh
[01:04] <StagedD> onboard? :) hehe i'll cross my fingers.
[01:04] <blue_> utnubuk: i tried it on my lappy, onboard GFX, didnt work
[01:05] <blue_> had to use tty1 to restore my xorg.conf from backup :P
[01:05] <StagedD> blue_: ?
[01:05] <StagedD> whoops nvm :)
[01:06] <luapv> blue_: ctrl+alt+f1
[01:06] <blue_> lol, how do you change the colour of text? im sorry im new to irc
[01:06] <blue_> luapv: yeah i already did it earlier
[01:07] <soulrider> blue_: go to your options, youre gonna be able to do it there
[01:07] <soulrider> blue_: youre using konversation right ?
[01:07] <blue_> yeah
[01:07] <luapv> blue_: i'm on kopete
[01:07] <soulrider> oh
[01:07] <soulrider> no idea then
[01:08] <blue_> ah kopete has irc too? im usin it for msn an yahoo at the minute
[01:08] <mateus> someone using herd 5?
[01:08] <StagedD> mateus: o/
[01:08] <blue_> i was, earlier, back to edgy now
[01:08] <soulrider> not me mateus
[01:08] <mateus> how stable is
[01:09] <soulrider> if you have questions about feisty maube #ubuntu+1 is a better place to ask
[01:09] <blue_> seemed ok, couldnt get wireless to work thats y i switched back
[01:09] <soulrider> since they are all using it :P
[01:09] <mateus> tks
[01:09] <stdin> quite stable, but no guarantee that it will stay that way
[01:09] <StagedD> well for me it's darn stable, but I can imagine for some hardware support it can cause problems. :)
[01:09] <luapv> blue_: go to settings -> configure ->accounts
[01:09] <firecrotch> mateus: I'm not having any problems :)
[01:09] <StagedD> and yes packages change constantly :P
[01:13] <mateus>  /reboot
[01:13] <StagedD> lol
[01:13] <skogen> where do i find cool themes and stuff for ubbuntu?
[01:14] <stdin> !theme
[01:14] <StagedD> you in kubuntu or ubuntu? :)
[01:14] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:14] <skogen> booth
[01:15] <StagedD> well... u.bot.u sums it up ^^
[01:16] <skogen> ! perl
[01:16] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[01:17] <StagedD> !kinit
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kinit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <blue_> my mates volume controls on the keyboard control the mixer, btu not the volume that is output to the speakers, any ways to fix this?
[01:20] <StagedD> blue_: Got the correct master channel?
[01:21] <blue_> no, i think that may be the problem
[01:22] <muchos> hello;
[01:22] <blue_> hi
[01:22] <StagedD> muchos: heya
[01:23] <muchos> can anyone help me diagnose an xorg/i810 problem with Edgy?
[01:23] <blue_> you might as well ask :P
[01:23] <muchos> I've got a 1280x1024 LCD that I can't get to display better than 640x480
[01:24] <muchos> (which is incredibly annoying)
[01:24] <blue_> have you edited your xorg.conf file?
[01:24] <muchos> yeah; I put in modelines,
[01:24] <blue_> and no good?
[01:24] <muchos> specified resolutions, etc
[01:24] <muchos> all no good.
[01:25] <StagedD> muchos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ :) i'll check.  I can't make any promises though
[01:26] <blue_> muchos: what gfx card do you have?
[01:26] <muchos> its an Intel one,... 845G
[01:26] <Tonren> Even after I deselect "show device icons" in kcontrol, the icons for two USB partitions i've mounted still show up on my desktop.
[01:27] <crackhead_25> what is the best audio output to use with mplayer?
[01:27] <blue_> muchos:  ah, do you knoe what driver you have installed?
[01:27] <muchos> yeah, it's i810
[01:27] <muchos> but it might not be the most recent
[01:27] <blue_> so gfx card seems to be workin fine, just resolutions not right?
[01:28] <crackhead_25> what is the best audio output/driver to use for playing back a movie: alsa, oss, arts, esd, nas, sdl, pcm?
[01:28] <muchos> yeah, I can get X to display in 640x480, but that's it
[01:29] <blue_> can we see your xorg.conf?
[01:29] <muchos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10965/
[01:29] <blue_> ty
[01:30] <blue_> tell ya what muchos il paste mine up there an you can copy bits of it
[01:30] <muchos> I noticed in the log these couple lines: (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)
[01:30] <muchos> and so on for all the modes specified
[01:31] <muchos> thanks blue_ what's your setup?
[01:31] <blue_> muchos:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10966/
[01:32] <blue_> muchos: mines a 1024 x 786
[01:33] <muchos> I think the problem lies in the gfx card & driver, not xorg.conf, unfortunately
[01:33] <kristjan__> where can i find support for krita?
[01:34] <StagedD> muchos: Yeah I agree but.. lets try this
[01:34] <StagedD> sec pasting
[01:35] <StagedD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10968/
[01:35] <StagedD> maby :)
[01:35] <blue_> have you tried, system settings -> monitor & display -> hardware -> admin mode -> configure monitor?
[01:36] <muchos> blue_: yes, it doesn't have any options
[01:37] <StagedD> muchos: Tell me the result, i'm curious myself  :P
[01:37] <blue_> yeah normally a bit of hard core xorg editin does the trick :P
[01:38] <StagedD> blue_: I always take the clothes (strip) off my xorg :P
[01:38] <blue_> lol
[01:39] <blue_> i didnt even hav to edit this one (lappy) and got away really handy on my desktop (1440x900) just added it in :P
[01:39] <blue_> i musta installed kubuntu about 10 times in the last 3 days
[01:39] <StagedD> I ran gentoo, I know how to hit things until they work :P
[01:39] <StagedD> lol
[01:40] <blue_> lo
[01:40] <chijin> ls
[01:40] <chijin> oops
[01:40] <chijin> wrong window :-)
[01:40] <StagedD> lol
[01:40] <blue_> :P
[01:40] <StagedD> muchos: Ready?
[01:42] <muchos> still workin.
[01:43] <muchos> alright gonna try this back soon.
[01:43] <muchos> quit
[01:43] <muchos> damn
[01:43] <muchos> (new to irc)
[01:43] <blue_> good luck
[01:45] <N6REJ> anyone know how to change the machine name AFTER you've already installed the distro without confusing everything?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> N6REJ: yes...
[01:46] <N6REJ> nosrednaekim: cool, now just don't say "reinstall" LOL
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> control center -> network settings -> domain name system  and modify the hostname
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> oh...you could also reinstall...
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[01:46] <K`zan> N6REJ: But that is how I was trained by m$, any problem - reinstall ;-) hihi es 73.
[01:46] <N6REJ> :P
[01:47] <N6REJ> 73's K`zan
[01:47] <N6REJ> ok, cool... let me do that real quick
[01:47] <K`zan> N6REJ: de wv9k :-)
[01:47] <N6REJ> nice to meet you
[01:48] <dsmith> N4SNL
[01:48] <dsmith> :P
[01:48] <muchos> blue_ & StagedD: no luck
[01:48] <blue_> :(
[01:48] <StagedD> :|
[01:48] <K`zan> U2, putzing with a cw decoder on an old laptop, really makes it grunt, but works well :).  Seattle is an RF hole which is a problem though.
[01:48] <muchos> there's some odd stuff in the log:
[01:48] <N6REJ> hmmm must be missing something, no control center
[01:48] <K`zan> 73 N4SNL too
[01:49] <skogen> ! desktop
[01:49] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[01:49] <dsmith> 73's
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> N6REJ: are you in kubuntu? its on the main menu
[01:49] <skogen> ! Gnome
[01:49] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[01:49] <N6REJ> nosrednaekim: yeah, but its server distro might not have installed that part
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> N6REJ: ahh...I...c..
[01:49] <StagedD> i've been looking up what it possibly could be muchos. give me a moment :P
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> lemme think...where that might be..
[01:50] <N6REJ> found it, named different.
[01:50] <luapv> N6REJ: control centre might be called System Settings
[01:50] <N6REJ> KDE INFO CENTER
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> indeed it is..my bad...
[01:50] <K`zan> I think the ubuntu web site has problems, go for the server version, it takes you to desktop :-(.
[01:51] <N6REJ> hmmm this don't look quite right either *sigh*
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> not sure where the config file for that is...
[01:51] <StagedD> muchos: Ok.. this is pretty funky,  http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/
[01:51] <muchos> I put it up at http://rafb.net/p/BspHFi55.html
[01:51] <StagedD> from what I understand the i810 driver only accepts modes in the bios.
[01:52] <StagedD> what was the chipset again?
[01:52] <N6REJ> I'll try to find the right mod
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> mod?
[01:52] <N6REJ> widget?
[01:52] <muchos> it's 845G
[01:52] <muchos> StagedD: I tried the 915resolution thing but got no good results yet
[01:53] <muchos> (still, it's probably the right way to go)
[01:53] <StagedD> ok then please check http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ out for further reading
[01:53] <StagedD> ok
[01:53] <muchos> thanks
[01:53] <StagedD> your welcome
[01:54] <luapv> muchos: from browsing your xorg.conf, the only difference i can see is the Virtual Mode under modes when i compared them with the others
[01:54] <luapv> muchos: don't know if it makes any differece
[01:54] <luapv> muchos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10969/
[01:54] <muchos> luapv: doesn't seem to
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> N6REJ: are you running the kubuntu desktop?
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> !hostname
[01:55] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[01:55] <N6REJ> nosrednaekim: no, just the core, base, network, etc.
[01:55] <intelikey> N6REJ which admin stuff ?
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> ahhh ta dah...^^^ read above
[01:55] <N6REJ> intelikey: kdeadmin
[01:55] <N6REJ> kde
[01:55] <N6REJ> oops wrong kb
[01:55] <intelikey> kcontrol ?
[01:56] <N6REJ> intelikey: looking now.
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> !hostename | N6REJ
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> !hostname | N6REJ
[01:56] <ubotu> N6REJ: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[01:56] <N6REJ> cool
[01:57] <N6REJ> still gonna try to find the missing gui
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> system settings?
[01:57] <N6REJ> yes
[01:58] <intelikey> !info kdeadmin
[01:58] <ubotu> kdeadmin: system administration tools from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 56 kB
[01:58] <intelikey> ah a universe deb
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> !kde-systemsettings | N6REJ
[01:58] <ubotu> n6rej: kde-systemsettings: easy to use control centre for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.0svn20060929-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 93 kB, installed size 760 kB
[01:58] <N6REJ> cool
[01:59] <StagedD> good night eveyone
[02:00] <N6REJ> yep, found it, systemsettings wasn't installed
[02:00] <K`zan> I installed something using: "dpkg -i roadnav_0.17-1_i386.deb", what do I do to uninstall it?
[02:00] <intelikey> wasn't here either...  never has been...
[02:01] <N6REJ> k` change the -i to an -r
[02:01] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove roadnav
[02:01] <K`zan> N6REJ: Should I use -P rather than -r ?
[02:01] <N6REJ> K`zan: I think purge just removes the installer not the app
[02:02] <K`zan> AH, ok thanks, Iwanted to remove that and install an update :).
[02:02] <intelikey> no purge removes the config files as well as the app.
[02:02] <N6REJ> intelikey: thanks I was thinking that wasn't right
[02:02] <intelikey> remove only removes the app not the configs
[02:03] <N6REJ> you probably could just -u couldn't you?
[02:03] <intelikey> i cut my teeth on mandrake so i still use urpmi/urpme   even thought they are only scripts i wrote that call apt...
[02:04] <intelikey> anyway.  urpme defaults to purge
[02:04] <N6REJ> intelikey: if you look at alot of the commands in detail you'll find they are like that, like dir for example.
[02:04] <intelikey> dir is a bash builtin
[02:04] <intelikey> so is echo
[02:04] <N6REJ> my point exactly.
[02:05] <intelikey> printf
[02:05] <N6REJ> I forgot about printf
[02:06] <intelikey> i made a list of bash builtins that there are also installed binaries of the same name ....  it's about 13/14 apps.
[02:06] <intelikey> posted it in here yesterday.
[02:09] <intelikey> bash bloat: /bin/dir /bin/echo /bin/false /bin/kill /bin/more /bin/pwd /bin/true /usr/bin/ar /usr/bin/expr /usr/bin/last /usr/bin/pr /usr/bin/printf /usr/bin/see /usr/bin/test /usr/bin/time
[02:10] <N6REJ> ok, group conference... if I'm going to have the server be an INTRANET server ONLY and its behind a router AND is dhcp'd to the router, should it have a domain name or just a host name.
[02:10] <N6REJ> only talking about 4-8 machines it has to know about.
[02:11] <mikefoo> anyone know of command line dvd ripping tool? looking to backup my dvds as avi/divx/whatever...
[02:13] <fignew> dvd ripping or dvd encoding?
[02:13] <fignew> for encoding you can use mencoder
[02:13] <fignew> and for ripping you can use k9copy (GUI though)
[02:13] <mikefoo> well.. ripping it would be first
[02:13] <mikefoo> or I could encode right of dvd, right?
[02:15] <mikefoo> I am basically looking to just put a dvd in, and have a cron run every hour to rip anything in the drive..
[02:15] <fignew> mencoder can do dvd -> avi
[02:16] <fignew> direct
[02:16] <fignew> k9copy makes .iso
[02:16] <mikefoo> ahh ok..
[02:17] <epimeth> ahoy folks!
[02:17] <mikefoo> avi would be sweet, so I can jst stream from remote machines off fileserver.
[02:17] <mikefoo> k9copy is a frontend to mencoder, no?
[02:17] <mikefoo> and so is dvd::rip as I am reading..
[02:17] <mikefoo> but they both are GUI, I have no X on linux machine.
[02:18] <epimeth> why is it that even when I comment out "quiet" from menu.lst my splashscreen still doesn't show an module/services info?
[02:18] <fignew> gentoo has a good guide on mencoder
[02:18] <fignew> just use that directly
[02:18] <mikefoo> yeah?
[02:18] <mikefoo> ok
[02:18] <mikefoo> got a link?
[02:18] <FragUPlenty> dude I love my Kubuntu
[02:18] <fignew> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide
[02:18] <FragUPlenty> for anyone doing webdevelopment
[02:18] <FragUPlenty> this is a dream come true
[02:19] <FragUPlenty> every peice of software on my system is free open source and I can do all my work almost better then I could before
[02:19] <FragUPlenty> all hail Ubuntu
[02:19] <fignew> :P
[02:20] <FragUPlenty> sorry
[02:20] <FragUPlenty> lol
[02:21] <Iwonder> any kvirc users successfully installed 3.2.6?
[02:23] <cpk1> epimeth: I dont think you comment it out, also you might want to use the automagic part of menu.lst
[02:26] <executer_> hi all :)
[02:28] <FragUPlenty> wassup
[02:29] <amaan> hey im having issues editing my xorg.conf file in kubuntu...?
[02:30] <amaan> this is what i get:
[02:30] <amaan> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:30] <amaan> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[02:30] <amaan>   Major opcode:  147
[02:30] <amaan>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:30] <epimeth> cpk1: whats the automagic part?
[02:30] <amaan>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:30] <epimeth> what do I need to do?
[02:30] <Jucato> !pastebin | amaan
[02:30] <ubotu> amaan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:30] <amaan> Failed to open device
[02:30] <amaan> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[02:30] <amaan>   Major opcode:  147
[02:30] <amaan>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:30] <amaan>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:30] <amaan> Failed to open device
[02:31] <Jucato> amaan: ignore those errors. kate should launch normally
[02:31] <amaan> jucato it didnt :(
[02:31] <amaan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10978/
[02:32] <Jucato> amaan: it doesn't run kate?
[02:32] <Ick> sound no longer works, but artsd is still running
[02:33] <amaan> Jucato, no nothing runs
[02:34] <Jucato> it should first popup a dialog box asking for your password
[02:34] <Jucato> check if the dialog box is running behind some window
[02:34] <amaan> theres nothing else :S i only see four irc, terminal, and two web sites
[02:35] <Jucato> amaan: ok, how about running a plain "kdesu kate"?
[02:36] <executer_> hey :)
[02:36] <executer_> cn someone tell me good ICQ clien ;D
[02:36] <amaan> Jucato, same thing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10979/
[02:37] <dasickis> hey can someone help me with my knetworkmanager
[02:37] <dasickis> it has stopped trying to find wireless networks
[02:37] <dasickis> and instead shows me static network
[02:37] <dasickis> static connection*
[02:37] <Jucato> amaan: those errors have nothing to do w/ kate not running though... are you typing it in a root prompt (the prompt ends in #) or a plain user prompt?
[02:37] <amaan> its not a root
[02:38] <Jucato> hm....
[02:38] <epimeth> has anybody got the legacy drivers for nvidia working?
[02:38] <dasickis> executer_: gaim?
[02:38] <dasickis> executer_: or kopete?
[02:38] <Jucato> amaan: last try, in Konqueror, go to the /etc/X11 directory, right-click on the xorg.conf file and select Actions -> Edit as Root
[02:38] <dasickis> epimeth: on feisty they used to work for me
[02:39] <epimeth> dasickis: how??? and what happened since then?
[02:39] <amaan> Jucato, ok
[02:39] <dasickis> i have to try again with my new kernel 2.6.20-12
[02:39] <dasickis> epimeth: umm i was editing the resolv.conf file which it said not to
[02:39] <dasickis> epimeth: but i was too naiive
[02:39] <executer_> kopete
[02:39] <dasickis> epimeth: i tried changing it back to the original nothing has worked
[02:39] <executer_> cnt recive my
[02:39] <executer_> old contacts
[02:39] <executer_> when i was using ICQ :) in windows
[02:40] <executer_> :)
[02:40] <dasickis> executer_: what client were u using/
[02:40] <epimeth> you have 12?  I only have 11
[02:40] <executer_> ICQ 5.1 :D ?
[02:40] <amaan> Jucato, it started loading with the icon beside my curser for a little while and then it went away (nothing opened)
[02:40] <dasickis> epimeth: ur on edgy or feisty?
[02:40] <epimeth> dasickis: can you tell me how you had it working, tho?
[02:40] <executer_> what is gaim
[02:40] <executer_> :P
[02:40] <epimeth> feisty
[02:41] <Jucato> amaan: hm... ok try this.. in konsole, "killall kdesu" then try the first kdesu kate command again
[02:41] <dasickis> epimeth: oo damn resolv.conf has nothing to do with anything sorry i thought u were referring to my questoin
[02:41] <executer_> multiple connection client ?
[02:41] <dasickis> epimeth: umm it just worked like i was installing beryl
[02:41] <dasickis> epimeth: using their instruction
[02:41] <dasickis> epimeth: then it just broke
[02:41] <dasickis> epimeth: do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:41] <N6REJ> ok folks, give me a little guidance here, I want to create a system whereby I can a) when I choose and/or b) monthly back up the entire server to a DVD drive on my winbox
[02:42] <amaan> Jucato, tried that same problem with errors and nothing opening :(
[02:42] <dasickis> epimeth: brb i have to restart real quick
[02:42] <Jucato> amaan: ok... I'm a bit clueless why it's not working... :(
[02:43] <amaan> Jucato, this is very odd - it's a completely new install of kubuntu too :(
[02:44] <amaan> Jucato, i shall try a reboot
[02:45] <bb>  )
[02:45] <N6REJ> !taper
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about taper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <N6REJ> !amanda
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amanda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <N6REJ> !backup
[02:45] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:46] <dasickis> back
[02:47] <dasickis> epimeth: did you upgrade??
[02:47] <epimeth> wb
[02:47] <epimeth> :-)
[02:48] <N6REJ> anyone ever use amanda?
[02:48] <tehArtist> what is the syntax to unlock the databses for apt
[02:48] <N6REJ> tehArtist: what are you trying to accomplish?
[02:48] <Iwonder> dpkg --configure -a ?
[02:49] <tehArtist> when I go to add/remove programs it says Adept is busy
[02:49] <epimeth> dasickis: fully upgraded, no 12... just 11
[02:49] <Iwonder> ps aux |grep dpkg
[02:49] <tehArtist> earlier i was attempting to install vmware via add/remove programs and it locked up, so I closed the add remove programs window..
[02:49] <N6REJ> yep, and the kill it or remove the pid
[02:49] <tehArtist> and it's been 1 error after another
[02:49] <tehArtist> now it's telling me that the database is locked
[02:49] <dasickis> epimeth: reall?
[02:49] <Iwonder> tehArtist: try apt-get upgrade
[02:49] <dasickis> epimeth: i went from 10 to 12
[02:50] <tehArtist> it spits out an error when I try that
[02:50] <N6REJ> tehArtist: use the ps aux and start killing process's
[02:50] <Iwonder> it should give you a command to fix it
[02:50] <Jucato> !adeptfix | tehArtist
[02:50] <ubotu> tehArtist: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:50] <dasickis> epimeth: uname -r yields 2.6.20-12-generic
[02:50] <epimeth> yup... at least that is the most recent one in my grub list
[02:50] <N6REJ> cool
[02:50] <epimeth> I'm 11 generic...
[02:50] <epimeth> what are your sources?
[02:50] <tehArtist> it says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resource temporairly unavailable)
[02:51] <dasickis> epimeth: try update-manager -c -d
[02:51] <Jucato> dasickis: update-manager isn't installed on Kubuntu, unless he has Ubuntu installed too
[02:51] <Jucato> epimeth: dasickis is on Feisty. are you on feisty too?
[02:51] <epimeth> Jucato: yup
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ther eis a kubuntu update-manager type app now
[02:51] <N6REJ> Jucato: do you know if there is something like amanda but is a gui?
[02:52] <epimeth> dasickis: what's update-manager?
[02:52] <tehArtist> jucato thats what I was looking for
[02:52] <Jucato> N6REJ: sorry, I don't know what amanda is...
[02:52] <vxp> N6REJ: Veritas NetBackup
[02:52] <tehArtist> now, hwo do I fix this vmware mess?
[02:52] <vxp> Try that.
[02:52] <vxp> =)
[02:52] <gnomefreak> !amanda
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amanda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <N6REJ> Jucato: its some massive system backup utility.
[02:52] <dasickis> epimeth: sorry its not installed
[02:52] <N6REJ> Jucato: I'm looking for a good way to backup my entire server to a dvd drive on my winbox
[02:52] <gnomefreak> !backups
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <epimeth> dasickis: I'm asking what it is... don't wanna run something I don't know of :-
[02:52] <epimeth> )
[02:53] <gnomefreak> !backup
[02:53] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:53] <epimeth> and this again: why is it that even when I comment out "quiet" from menu.lst my splashscreen still doesn't show an module/services info?
[02:53] <dasickis> epimeth: its something on ubuntu that updates the sources.list but kubuntu doesn't have it
[02:53] <N6REJ> gnomefreak: most of that seems to be at a file level.
[02:53] <Iwonder> any of ya'll use kvirc,if anyone got svn 3.2.6 to compile?
[02:53] <dasickis> epimeth: i was just looking at some random tutorial on the internet
[02:55] <amaan> Jucato, a reboot did not work...do you have any other suggestions?
[02:55] <epimeth> dasickis: okay.... can't you just pastebin *your* sources?
[02:56] <Jucato> amaan: sorry... none :(
[02:56] <amaan> damnit ok thanks
[02:56] <tehArtist> Jucato: when I attempted to install vmware earlier it froze up, i closed it and got into the database locked mess. reboots were fixing the problem. I need to remove the corrupt vmware packages so I can restart the vmware installation
[02:57] <NightBird> so... can the kubuntu installer repartition an ntfs partition to provide some space to install kubuntu to?
[02:57] <Jucato> tehArtist: aah you need to install vmware-player from the command line
[02:59] <Hasrat_USA> AMD turion 64 mobile techno...vista basic 15.4 wide inch wit truelife tech...512 DDR RAm..60GB HDD, ATI RADEON express1150 256MB dell wireless for $606 after tax, shipping free. is it good?
[03:00] <tehArtist> Jucato, I think i just figured that out =p
[03:00] <dasickis> epimeth: sorry i was busy with some stuff
[03:00] <tehArtist> ok ,now it has kicked out errors during the install
[03:00] <dasickis> epimeth: sure i can email it to you
[03:00] <dasickis> brb have to restart x
[03:01] <dasickis> back
[03:02] <tehArtist> it said Starting vmware services: virtual machine monitor failed; virtual ethernet failed; module vmnet is not loaded. please verify that it is loaded before running this script.
[03:02] <epimeth> heh
[03:02] <tehArtist> then it has another error below that:
[03:02] <epimeth> dasickis: whats with the restarting all the time?
[03:03] <tehArtist> invoke-rc.d initscript vmwareplayer, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing vmware-player (--configure); subprocess post- installation script returned error exit status 1 errors were encountered while processing:vmware-player E: sub process /usr/bin/dpkg/returned an error code (1)
[03:03] <dasickis> epimeth: first was i did a dist-upgrae
[03:03] <tehArtist> then it's back to the command line..
[03:03] <dasickis> epimeth: second i was installing the nvidia-kernel
[03:03] <dasickis> epimeth: still hasn't work
[03:04] <draik> Hello everyone
[03:04] <draik> What's the best way to go into a winxp desktop remotely?
[03:04] <dasickis> epimeth: have you uncommented out the universe and multiverse statements in the sources.list?
[03:04] <epimeth> dasickis: heh... I just installed the nvidia drivers, myself... glxgears works!  woo hoo :-)
[03:04] <dasickis> epimeth: how'd u get it working?
[03:04] <epimeth> feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[03:04] <epimeth> and fesity-updates and fesity-security for the lot
[03:05] <epimeth> I installed the drivers from nvidia.com
[03:05] <dasickis> ooo ok
[03:05] <dasickis> cool
[03:06] <epimeth> I have a geforce2 mx 400, so I installed the 1.0-9631 drivers
[03:06] <epimeth> not the newest 1.0-97whatever
[03:07] <draik> How do I bring back the tabs in kTorrent? I only see my downloads, not the uploads or the search
[03:08] <tehArtist> ok, how do I uninstall vmware from the command line?
[03:08] <epimeth> dasickis: but I tried installing the 97whatever drivers... *they* told me to get 96xx, so I got the most recent 96 ones I can find
[03:08] <Jucato> draik: which ktorrent version?
[03:08] <dasickis> epimeth: so what was the problem?
[03:08] <dasickis> epimeth: you couldn't get any display?
[03:08] <dasickis> epimeth: i mean was it distorted or something
[03:08] <epimeth> dasickis: was the problem, or is the problem?
[03:09] <dasickis> epimeth: oo like why did you need to get nvidia properietary drivers?
[03:09] <draik> Jucato: 2.1
[03:09] <draik> Jucato: Hello. How have you been?
[03:09] <epimeth> dasickis: all the other drivers i tried (restricted-manager, apt-get install nvidia-legacy, envy) didn't work
[03:09] <Jucato> draik: ah they did away w/ tabs in 2.1. there's a side tab/navigation panel now.
[03:09] <Jucato> draik: doing fine :)
[03:10] <epimeth> dasickis: envy cuz it doesn't support feisty, the others cuz xorg just didn't load... the log said "cannot find screen"
[03:10] <draik> Jucato: Any way to bring them back? It throws me off
[03:10] <Jucato> draik: not that I'm aware of... let me check
[03:10] <epimeth> dasickis: and when I loaded my old xorg.conf file, everything loaded but xlginfo was full of errors
[03:10] <epimeth> dasickis: now everything is as it should be
[03:10] <epimeth> dasickis: how are you gonna email me your sources, btw?  you don't know my email :-)
[03:11] <epimeth> lets try again! why is it that even when I comment out "quiet" from menu.lst my splashscreen still doesn't show an module/services info?
[03:11] <dasickis> epimeth: where were the X11 logs?
[03:12] <Jucato> draik: nope. sorry.. can't see. but clicking on the Downloads or Uploads Group shows the same stuff as tabs
[03:12] <draik> ok
[03:12] <draik> Thank you Jucato
[03:12] <draik> JUCATO... I GOT MY HDD WORKING
[03:12] <draik> GRUB WORKS
[03:12] <epimeth> dasickis: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:12] <Jucato> er caps please? :)
[03:12] <Jucato> draik: congrats :)
[03:12] <epimeth> draik: no caps, please
[03:12] <draik> sorry epimeth
[03:12] <epimeth> draik: :-)
[03:13] <dasickis> epimeth: they are not there
[03:13] <draik> epimeth: I'm sorry, it was just a really BIG (sorry) pain in the @$$
[03:13] <epimeth> draik: I hear ya, buddy....
[03:13] <epimeth> draik: most things are :-)
[03:13] <dasickis> epimeth: nvm
[03:13] <epimeth> dasickis: found it?
[03:14] <Ick> urgh
[03:15] <epimeth> also... anybody know why my wired connection isn't being automatically dhcp'd?  I have to send a manual dhcp request (either through knetworkmanager or dhclient) in order to connect....
[03:15] <dasickis> epimeth: yeah i wasn't putting any command to it (i.e. more, cat, etc)
[03:15] <epimeth> dasickis: heh
[03:16] <epimeth> dasickis: use less... cuz less is more!
[03:16] <dasickis> epimeth: simple mistakes sometimes take the most time to debug
[03:16] <dasickis> epimeth: lol true
[03:16] <epimeth> dasickis: then you've never come across a Really Big problem :-p
[03:17] <dasickis> epimeth: too bad windows has better support for my laptop then linux
[03:17] <epimeth> dasickis: seriously, mate!  I can't get the wireless working on mine
[03:17] <dasickis> epimeth: i was never able to get my 5in1 media card reader to work or tv tuner
[03:17] <dasickis> and the tv tuner was 130$ too
[03:17] <epimeth> damn
[03:17] <dasickis> its really nice in media center
[03:17] <dasickis> epimeth: what wireless do u have?
[03:18] <epimeth> dasickis: on the other hand, my desktop's sound card didn't work in windows but does in linux
[03:18] <epimeth> go figure
[03:18] <epimeth> dasickis: I'll give you 3 guesses ^.^
[03:19] <dasickis> epimeth: broadcom?
[03:19] <dasickis> epimeth: interesting @ soundcard
[03:19] <epimeth> dasickis: more specific
[03:19] <epimeth> but yes
[03:19] <dasickis> epimeth:  bcm4306
[03:20] <epimeth> close... thats my desktop (feisty) which I had to blacklist cuz it was throwing errors to my stdout
[03:20] <epimeth> my laptop (edgy) is 4318
[03:20] <dasickis> epimeth: well i guessed broadcom since everyone has issues with it and then bcm4306 was a post on forum
[03:20] <epimeth> 4318 has the most "known issues"
[03:21] <epimeth> it connects to the network, then disconnects... I have to manually reconnect
[03:21] <epimeth> after a few mins it disconnects again
[03:21] <epimeth> I manually reconnect
[03:21] <epimeth> after a few mins it disconnects again... I try to manually reconnect... it laughs at me
[03:21] <epimeth> I get mad, grab a network cable, and shun the wireless
[03:21] <dasickis> epimeth: did you have better luck on edgy or feisty?
[03:21] <epimeth> and cry a little
[03:22] <dasickis> epimeth: because I have a friend with broadcom im not sure of his make tho
[03:22] <epimeth> haven't tried feisty on  the laptop yet... waiting for it to be stable
[03:22] <epimeth> and the desktop doesn't move and the router is in my room, so I'm using the regular lan card there
[03:22] <scotty> How do you block someone on Kopete?
[03:23] <scotty> AIM contact
[03:23] <dasickis> epimeth: there's not too many problems with it
[03:23] <epimeth> which, btw, isn't connecting automatically (see above)... any chance you can help with that
[03:23] <epimeth> ?
[03:23] <dasickis> epimeth: this weekend i'm actually going to partition the home directory and the reinstall feisty
[03:24] <epimeth> dasickis: I know... but I still wanna wait
[03:24] <epimeth> dasickis: I know there are still bugs and I know it'll drive me nuts when I run into one :-)
[03:24] <dasickis> epimeth: i like writing the name before everyone i'm addressing so it sticks out if it irritates you let me know
[03:25] <epimeth> dasickis: I do the same... before I wasn't cuz there was noone else talking
[03:25] <epimeth> then scotty walked in :-)
[03:25] <dasickis> epimeth: lol i guess this channel gets cold really quick
[03:25] <dasickis> epimeth: is there any chance you could help me with knetworkmanager
[03:25] <scotty> Anyone know how to block an AIM contact in Kopete? :P
[03:26] <epimeth> scotty: sorry amigo
[03:26] <epimeth> dasickis: maybe...
[03:26] <epimeth> dasickis: whats wrong with it?
[03:26] <dasickis> epimeth: so knetworkmanager isn't find my wireless networks
[03:26] <dasickis> epimeth: i edited the resolv.conf once and after that it hasn't worked
[03:26] <dasickis> epimeth: even thought it said "DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS COMMENT"
[03:28] <epimeth> dasickis: resolv.conf said that?  thats odd.... your dhcp server rewrites the file anyway
[03:28] <epimeth> dasickis: or at least, it should
[03:28] <dasickis> epimeth: i thought so
[03:28] <epimeth> dasickis: and it has nothing to do with wireless, anyway
[03:28] <dasickis> epimeth: i tried reinstalling to
[03:29] <epimeth> dasickis: whats your iwconfig return?
[03:30] <dasickis> eth0 no wireless extensions
[03:30] <dasickis> oo so damn i screwed up some thing there
[03:30] <dasickis> thanks
[03:30] <dasickis> let me look this up
[03:30] <epimeth> wait!
[03:30] <epimeth> is that your wireless?
[03:31] <epimeth> whats your lspci?
[03:33] <epimeth> dasickis: ?
[03:33] <mcquaid> i seem to get high cpu usage on certain web pages in konqueror (e.g digg.com).  the page will scroll really slow
[03:33] <mhall53> whats up yall
[03:34] <epimeth> mhall53: aheyhey
[03:34] <mcquaid> using the nvidia binaries
[03:35] <dasickis> epimeth: sorry
[03:36] <epimeth> dasickis: what?
[03:36] <dasickis> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[03:36] <dasickis> that's my card
[03:36] <mhall53> what are some must have apps i need to get
[03:36] <dasickis> mhall53: what do you need
[03:36] <mhall53> everything im a new linux user and i dont kno what i need
[03:37] <mhall53> maybe a good video converter
[03:37] <mhall53> firewall
[03:37] <epimeth> mhall53: we can't tell you what you need... you tell us what you need and we tell you were you can find one :-)
[03:37] <dr-ini> this has been probably asked to death. Amarok + flac?
[03:37] <dr-ini> I just installed from edgy eft live dvd
[03:37] <epimeth> mhall53: you already have a firewall... its called iptables
[03:37] <epimeth> !iptables
[03:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:38] <epimeth> !iptables | mhall53
[03:38] <ubotu> mhall53: please see above
[03:39] <mhall53> again im new to linux and that seems hard is there a program that will do it for me
[03:39] <mhall53> will some program called guarddod work?
[03:40] <epimeth> mhall53: none that I know of... but following howtos are the best way to learn your way around linux
[03:40] <epimeth> !guardod
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guardod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <epimeth> !guarddod
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guarddod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <mhall53> !guarddog
[03:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:40] <epimeth> mhall53: I guess so, then :-)
[03:40] <epimeth> mhall53: I hadn't heard of it
[03:41] <dr-ini> any way to get amarok playing flac?
[03:41] <epimeth> mhall53: the installation should be: $sudo apt-get install guarddog
[03:41] <epimeth> mhall53: from the command line, or use adept
[03:42] <mhall53> how do i do it with adept
[03:43] <mhall53> i searched for it
[03:43] <mhall53> but it didnt bring up anythign
[03:43] <epimeth> and it didn't find it?
[03:43] <mhall53> do i need to add more sources
[03:43] <epimeth> hmmm... what is the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:45] <epimeth> mhall53: and media converter:  mencoder is one I found...
[03:45] <crackhead_25> does anyone know if, once resetting the dimensions of the screen in the look and feel, monitor/display, one has to restart the xserver, i.e. start a new session? it pops up a window as if you should see the new settings, but nothing has changed. im not sure if that's normal, a bug, or if it has to do with the fact i have a "generic monitor" and nv drivers?
[03:45] <mhall53> i dont kno but im in some screen in the program i am enabling the links
[03:45] <epimeth> !mencoder | mhall53
[03:45] <epimeth> !kmc
[03:45] <ubotu> mhall53: mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <epimeth> also, kmc is one written for kde: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=53555
[03:45] <bartist> hello, i can only log in in console mode
[03:45] <bartist> i'd like to format and reinstall my kubuntu
[03:46] <bartist> to do that i'd like to copy my home folder on my ipod
[03:46] <bartist> what command should i enter in console?
[03:46] <bartist> copy /home/'username' ipod/home/username?
[03:47] <epimeth> bartist: yes, but I don't know if your ipod is loaded
[03:47] <iwonder> will your ipod hold /home?
[03:47] <mhall53> > > deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted
[03:47] <mhall53> > > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[03:47] <mhall53> > > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[03:47] <mhall53> > > ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[03:48] <mhall53> > > ## distribution.
[03:48] <mhall53> > > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[03:48] <mhall53> > > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[03:48] <Jucato> !pastebin | mhall53
[03:48] <ubotu> mhall53: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:48] <mhall53> > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[03:48] <mhall53> > > ## repository.
[03:48] <epimeth> bartist: and I don't know where it mounts to... on my system it is /media/ipod
[03:48] <mhall53> > > ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[03:48] <mhall53> > > ## team.
[03:48] <mhall53> > > # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[03:48] <mhall53> > > # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[03:48] <mhall53> > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[03:49] <epimeth> Jucato: I was about to warn him....
[03:49] <dr-ini> :\ so.. is doable at all? (playing flac in amarok)
[03:51] <Jucato> er...
[03:51] <epimeth> mhall53: ya
[03:51] <Jucato> !pastebin | mhall53
[03:51] <ubotu> mhall53: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:51] <epimeth> mhall53: you were kicked for spamming the channel
[03:52] <epimeth> mhall53: next time, use pastebin
[03:52] <LeeJunFan> Weee! I just got unionfs / to work on thick client! I hate readahead-list :)
[03:53] <ubuntu> xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[03:53] <mhall53> after i go to that site
[03:53] <epimeth> mhall53: also, register your nick... I tried to send you a private message but couldn't
[03:54] <epimeth> mhall53: http://www.freenode.net
[03:54] <bartist> i think it s also /media/ipod on my sys
[03:54] <bartist> are ipods automatically mounted when loggin in console only?
[03:54] <iwonder> bartist:  type mount
[03:54] <bartist> just mount?
[03:54] <Jucato> !register
[03:54] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:54] <iwonder> yes
[03:55] <bartist> alright thanx
[03:55] <bartist> i'll start backing up ma data
[03:55] <iwonder> you should see it if it's currently mounted
[03:55] <bartist> strangely i can not load kde anymore
[03:55] <bartist> i'm under windows now
[03:55] <iwonder> what does startX give?
[03:56] <epimeth> bartist: try $sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:56] <epimeth> before you do anything as drastic as a reinstall
[03:56] <mhall53> ok im reg with freenode
[03:56] <epimeth> mhall53: cool
[03:57] <epimeth> mhall53: now pastebin your sources.list
[03:57] <iwonder> you may have broken kdm ,kde,or possibly X but none warrant reinstall,thats the beauty of linux
[03:57] <bartist> kdm is working
[03:57] <bartist> startx says can't DISPLAY
[03:58] <iwonder> kdm login came up,but kde fails to load?
[03:58] <bartist> yes
[03:59] <bartist> i ve pasted my error msg in paste bin
[03:59] <bartist> i am trying tofind the url
[03:59] <iwonder> i did that messing with adept package manager,i dunno if it was correct,but apt-get install kubuntu-desktop fixxed mine
[04:00] <mcquaid> I installed the kde-core meta package, and I'm adding as needed.  whats the kde compression app?
[04:00] <mkquist> any help with grub? hangs on 'grub loading'...
[04:00] <iwonder> the manager locked up while i was installing something so i restarted the machine and lost kde
[04:01] <bartist> i'll try
[04:01] <iwonder> kubuntu-desktop seemed to give me what i had in the beginning without loosing my personal files in home
[04:01] <bartist> if not i'll just reboot
[04:01] <bartist> when is herd coming out?
[04:01] <Hasrat_USA> bartist on 7th april
[04:01] <Jucato> !feisty | bartist
[04:01] <ubotu> bartist: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:02] <bartist> that's soon
[04:03] <iwonder> switching clients
[04:05] <holotone> I've got some really odd behavior here.. Went to boot up my desktop this am, and got stuck on "Mounting Root Filesystem" during kubuntu's boot screen. Figuring my OS HDD crapped out, I attempted to reboot into a live Knoppix CD; The CD boot hangs @ "Detecting USB and Firewire devices". This time, I tried disconnecting the primary HDD and booted onto a Kubuntu 6.10 install CD - This ALSO hangs @ "Mounting Root Filesystem" o
[04:16] <epimeth> dasickis: you still need help, amigo?
[04:17] <xoss> what would be a good app to play .flv files?
[04:17] <Jucato> dr-ini: you could try asking in #amarok too
[04:18] <voidmage> dr-ini: what does it play right now?
[04:18] <dr-ini> it plays anything but flack
[04:18] <dr-ini> I just installed from kubuntu edgy eft live dvd
[04:18] <Jucato> dr-ini: do you have a sample FLAC file?
[04:18] <dasickis> sorry man
[04:18] <dasickis> i was out
[04:18] <dr-ini> sure, give me a second
[04:18] <dasickis> epimeth: sorry man
[04:20] <surgy> hello
[04:20] <surgy> i need a decent program to make an iso out of a cd
[04:20] <utnubuk> amarok stopped working, i uninstalled it and installed again and it still doesn't work, is there a way to 'reset' it?
[04:20] <epimeth> dasickis:no worries :-)
[04:20] <mhall53> best irc client for  kde is?
[04:21] <epimeth> dasickis: you're the one who wanted help :-)
[04:21] <epimeth> mhall53: my favorite is Konversation
[04:21] <savor> mhall53: irssi or Konversation imo
[04:21] <epimeth> mhall53: it is installed by defauly
[04:21] <epimeth> mhall53: it is installed by default
[04:21] <Jucato> mhall53: konversation, which is installed by default
[04:21] <Iwonder> kvirc in mine
[04:21] <surgy> !iso
[04:21] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:21] <Jucato> savor: although irssi isn't a kde app :)
[04:21] <Iwonder> i like something i can script
[04:21] <surgy> !extractiso
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extractiso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <savor> Jucato: true, but it's so good!
[04:22] <Jucato> Iwonder: amarok has scripting too, but not as full as mirc
[04:22] <Iwonder> amarok?
[04:22] <Jucato> er sorry
[04:22] <Jucato> konvi
[04:22] <Jucato> :)
[04:23] <Jucato> (but yeah you could use scripts in amarok too lol)
[04:23] <Iwonder> konversation?
[04:23] <Jucato> yes
[04:23] <epimeth> surgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateIsoFromCDorDVD?highlight=%28iso%29
[04:24] <Iwonder> wasn't sure about its script abiltys,was afraid it was like xchat
[04:24] <Jucato> Iwonder: konversation supports bash and python scripts. but the scripting ability isn't full, for example, no event-based scripts (but I think there's a way around that)
[04:25] <Iwonder> ahhh
[04:25] <Jucato> so no "revenge" scripts when someone slaps you around w/ a trout
[04:26] <Iwonder> might have to experiment with it,at least its installed,just spent a week getting the newest kvirc installed
[04:26] <epimeth> I find these are more effective at getting my point across
[04:26] <Brazil4Linux> I just installed Herd 5 and Adept notify me 365mb of updates omg
[04:26] <mhall53> eragon is a bad movie its already boring
[04:27] <Jucato> Brazil4Linux: yes, installing feisty at this moment means that you get updates almost daily
[04:27] <Brazil4Linux> Jucato: O.o
[04:27] <epimeth> Jucato: almost?  try bi-hourly :-)
[04:27] <Jucato> well, depends on how often you run update :)
[04:28] <Jucato> by default, adept-notifier will only check for updates daily or at very startup
[04:28] <epimeth> :-)
[04:29] <Iwonder> wouldn't amaroks playback ability be related to the engine its using and the plug-ins for that engine/?
[04:29] <Jucato> yes
[04:29] <Jucato> and currently, amarok only supports xine
[04:30] <Iwonder> amarok in general or amarok in kubuntu?
[04:30] <Jucato> I think in general (currently)
[04:30] <epimeth> amarok is audio only, right?  what would you suggest for video?
[04:30] <Jucato> but there was a time that it supported gstreamer too
[04:30] <rstanca> hello, new kubuntu edgy install, up to date, trying to use the romanian layout, but it won`t change, even is the icon in tray says it`s ro the layout is us, any tips?
[04:30] <Jucato> epimeth: kmplayer :)
[04:30] <Iwonder> xine-ui or vlc
[04:31] <Iwonder> i prefer vlc because of its ability to play a file during the dcc
[04:31] <Iwonder> if it sux i can stop the send,lol
[04:31] <epimeth> kmplayer = kaffeine?
[04:32] <Jucato> epimeth: no
[04:32] <epimeth> !kmplayer
[04:32] <Jucato> kmplayer is a KDE multimedia (video and/or audio) player that can use GStreamer, xine, or mplayer
[04:32] <ubotu> kmplayer: media player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 620 kB
[04:32] <epimeth> !xine-ui
[04:32] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 1567 kB, installed size 3512 kB
[04:32] <epimeth> !vic
[04:32] <ubotu> vic: Video Conferencing Tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.8ucl1.1.5-8 (edgy), package size 471 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[04:33] <Iwonder> vLc
[04:33] <Iwonder> video-lan
[04:33] <epimeth> !vlc
[04:33] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:34] <Iwonder> works well in xp also
[04:35] <mervteck> hey guys
[04:36] <mervteck> can anyone tell me the proper command to aptget "lib32z1-dev"
[04:37] <epimeth> !locales
[04:37] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:39] <mervteck> #winehq
[04:39] <dr-ini> back
[04:40] <dr-ini> I've put a flac on my webserver
[04:40] <Jucato> mervteck: you can simply type /join #channel instead of typing the channel name and clicking on it
[04:40] <dr-ini> br.endernet.org/~drini/timeout.flac
[04:40] <mervteck> ahh ok ty ^^
[04:40] <dr-ini> amarok (default player in edgy livedvd won't play flacs)
[04:40] <dr-ini> althought amarok has always been able to play flac out of the box
[04:41] <dr-ini> i jsut installed sot my kubuntu is fresh
[04:41] <Jucato> dr-ini: ok I'll try it
[04:41] <mervteck> can anyone tell meh the right command to download  the 3 packages on this link? http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[04:43] <dsmith> :(
[04:44] <[R] eaper> how can i change the TV resolution?? (ati radeon X1600)
[04:44] <manchicken> Anybody know how to get back a missing menu bar in konqueror?
[04:44] <Jucato> dr-ini: heh it's quite big..
[04:44] <Jucato> manchicken: Ctrl+M
[04:44] <manchicken> Grazi
[04:45] <dr-ini> well, I haven't setup recording yet
[04:45] <dr-ini> so I can enconde a smaller one
[04:45] <dr-ini> so I took one from my music collection
[04:45] <Jucato> it's ok.. just taking some time to download
[04:45] <dr-ini> dsmith: yet amarok can't play flac
[04:45] <dr-ini> at least tno t he version shipped with edgy
[04:45] <dsmith> !flac
[04:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:46] <dsmith> flac is like mp3?
[04:46] <dr-ini> it's lossless compression
[04:46] <dr-ini> unlike mp3 which is lossy
[04:47] <Jucato> flac is like wav... (afaik)
[04:47] <dr-ini> yeah but mch smaller
[04:47] <dr-ini> a while cd becomes 150-200 mb
[04:47] <dr-ini> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC
[04:47] <Jucato> dr-ini: it's playing here, but quite softly
[04:47] <dr-ini> for what' I've googled in the meanwhile
[04:47] <dr-ini> there's a problem with the xine engine
[04:48] <dr-ini> 1.1.1 version
[04:48] <pagan0ne> can someone help me with a bit of a problem reguarding herd 5, Vista, and NTFS?
[04:48] <dr-ini> :\
[04:48] <dr-ini> thanks jucato
[04:48] <Jucato> dr-ini: ok.have you installed libxine-extracodecs? (the one that will allow you to play MP3's, AVI's, AAC)
[04:48] <dsmith> dr-ini: thx
[04:49] <mervteck> can anyone help me with the right command to use to download these packages on the how to for wine 64 bit?
[04:49] <dr-ini>  9i can't install it
[04:49] <Iwonder> was gonna ask,is flac one of those things not installed by default,like the ability to play wmv9 files?
[04:50] <dr-ini> I went to packages website, got it maually (since apt-get couldn't find it)
[04:50] <pagan0ne> can someone help me with a bit of a problem reguarding herd 5, Vista, and NTFS? for some reason i cant mount my ntfs partition under herd 5, is there sompthing im missing
[04:51] <dr-ini> Source: xine-extracodecs
[04:51] <dr-ini> Version: 1.1.2-0ubuntu2Source: xine-extracodecs
[04:51] <dr-ini> Version: 1.1.2-0ubuntu2
[04:52] <dr-ini> so yes I have it now
[04:53] <[R] eaper> how can i change the TV resolution?? (ati radeon X1600)
[04:53] <dr-ini> duh
[04:53] <dr-ini> it works now
[04:53] <dr-ini> forgot to cloe and reopen amarok
[04:53] <mhall53> EPIMETH IS THE MAN
[04:53] <dr-ini> I?m embarassed
[04:56] <mervteck> Someone PLEASE help me , i need to get the propper Konsole command to download these 3 packages ia32-libs libc6-dev-i386 lib32z1-dev
[04:57] <mhall53> yay i got my guarddog
[04:57] <Iwonder> dunno mervteck does man apt-get help?
[04:58] <mervteck> i tried sudo apt-get XXXXXXX x being the package name and no good
[04:58] <pagan0ne> well if the people here cant help with my ntfs/vista/herd 5 issue, is there someplace you all can point me?
[04:58] <mhall53> anyone know how to get a gui for grub
[04:58] <Iwonder> there is a gui for grub?
[04:58] <pagan0ne> mhall53: idk if this helps, but google for GrubED
[04:59] <pagan0ne> its a shell script with a gui front end
[04:59] <mhall53> oh man i think the firewall i just install in blocking me using hte inthernet
[04:59] <Iwonder> mhall53:  does grub give an error?
[04:59] <pagan0ne> mhall53: your on irc....
[05:00] <Iwonder> mervteck: apt-get --help
[05:00] <mhall53> i know but i set it to allow irc chat
[05:00] <daskreech_> dag nab it lost again1
[05:00] <crackhead_25> question: what's the best opensource replacement for macromedia's dreamweaver? what's the best , most powerful gui/code web design program?
[05:01] <Hasrat_USA> they are already coming up with linux versions of Flash, Dreamweaver and GoogleTalk.
[05:01] <daskreech2> composer?
[05:02] <dr-ini> theres a linux flash browser plugin
[05:02] <dr-ini> I doubt dreamweaver and flash (editing program) will show up
[05:02] <dr-ini> at least for free
[05:03] <dr-ini> there's already google earth, isn'0t it?
[05:03] <Hasrat_USA> hey i got a question. i have got Ubuntu installed on my PC. now where do i go from here?
[05:03] <Hasrat_USA> what's the next thing for me to do?
[05:03] <mervteck> lols get drivers and update
[05:03] <mervteck> what videocard u using?
[05:03] <dr-ini> I use nvu instead of drewamweaver, but I haven't found a good editor handling frames in a smart way
[05:03] <Hasrat_USA> i got them all. beryl is up and running
[05:03] <daskreech2> Hasrat_USA: what do you want to do?
[05:03] <Hasrat_USA> daskreech2: that's what im asking
[05:04] <daskreech2> a operating system doesn't do anything
[05:04] <daskreech2> well nothign interesting
[05:04] <daskreech2> what do you want to use the computer to do?
[05:04] <daskreech2> if you don't know then hang out here for a few months helping folks get to where you are ;-0
[05:04] <dr-ini> well you start using it
[05:04] <dr-ini> browse the web
[05:04] <dr-ini> make sme programs
[05:04] <Hasrat_USA> i am planning on using it to gain some financial advantage
[05:05] <dr-ini> download some porn, etc
[05:05] <dr-ini> just use it
[05:05] <Hasrat_USA> i'm muslim i can't even think about girls :P
[05:05] <dr-ini> then don't
[05:05] <daskreech2> so you have reached step three which is by definition ????
[05:05] <dr-ini> read some e books
[05:05] <daskreech2> step 4 is profit11
[05:05] <pagan0ne> daskreech2: im still trying to figure out how to profit though
[05:06] <daskreech2> pagan0ne: that's step 3 ;-)
[05:06] <Hasrat_USA> win XP was BS. no version of M$ windoze ever made me think/dream of doing something useful
[05:06] <Iwonder> i'm stuck at 'look at porn'
[05:07] <Hasrat_USA> wonder at some point everything gets boring and so does porn
[05:07] <knapp> I am trying to use rdesktop coupled with VMWare server to run windows applications. I have the server side seemeless client on the windows install. When I run the rdesktop command from terminal it just sits there and never creates a window.
[05:07] <Iwonder> i have one word for you niche
[05:08] <Hasrat_USA> i'm planning on getting into hardcore C++ and java programming and selling my software in future
[05:08] <pagan0ne> well currently im stuck at how to mount a Vista ntfs partition with READ access....
[05:08] <daskreech2> Hasrat_USA: you may want kdevelop and b-e then
[05:08] <Iwonder> mount -t ntfs <device> <mount point>
[05:08] <Hasrat_USA> but this GNU license is not going to enable me to sell my software and make profit so easily
[05:08] <pagan0ne> Iwonder: i tried that
[05:09] <Iwonder> but there may be some like dos file utilitys or something needed
[05:09] <Hasrat_USA> yeah i have to download and install kdevelop but at first i'm trying to learn the very basics and intricacies of programming
[05:09] <pagan0ne> will i be chastized for cut/paste from the shell in here?
[05:09] <daskreech2> Hasrat_USA: huh  ?
[05:10] <daskreech2> don't license it under GPL then
[05:10] <daskreech2> pagan0ne: is it more than two lines?
[05:10] <Iwonder> ntfsprogs?
[05:10] <pagan0ne> i can keep it under 2
[05:10] <Hasrat_USA> right now i'm writing a program in C++ that would case some kinds of malfunction to the OS by trying to multiply 9999 by 9999 for 9999 times
[05:11] <daskreech2> how much are you selling that for?
[05:11] <Iwonder> why Hasrat_USA?
[05:11] <MuJ> eh?
[05:11] <Hasrat_USA> daskreech remember that GNU C++ compiler was released under GNU/free software license and if i follow that guideline, i can't lawfully sell my software written in that free C++ compiler
[05:12] <pagan0ne> Iwonder: i have ntfsprogs and ntfs3g installed, but still cant seem to get it
[05:12] <Smorg> that doesn't sound right...
[05:12] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA: yes you can
[05:12] <Smorg> you can't sell the compiler itself
[05:12] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA: you aren't selling the compiler, you are selling your code
[05:12] <Smorg> You can sell the products of free software
[05:12] <Hasrat_USA> lol i aint selling s*** at the moment i'm still a newbie but i'm trying to feel 'leet' by trying to write some code that would cause some destruction..:P
[05:12] <Smorg> that would be like writing a book in openoffice & not being able to sell it since my word processor is opensource
[05:13] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA: the compiler is simplly a tool to transform what you write into something that the computer can read
[05:13] <Iwonder> pagan0ne: mine will mount them by default
[05:13] <Hasrat_USA> epimeth correct me if i'm wrong but i believe you havent read the whole license written by Stallman from fast to last, yet
[05:13] <Iwonder> well if i click on the icon
[05:13] <Hasrat_USA> brb dinner
[05:13] <pagan0ne> Iwonder: is your ntfs partition one created under vista?
[05:14] <epimeth> wow... that was rude
[05:14] <mhall53> lol i messed up somethin i cant connect to the internet buet i can connect to irc
[05:14] <Hasrat_USA> no no i didn't mean to be rude
[05:14] <Iwonder> i dunno what is doing it though,adept shows no package with ntfs in the name as being installed
[05:14] <Iwonder> no
[05:14] <Iwonder> xp pro
[05:14] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA: you aren't wrong... but I have read much of it and have taken 2 courses in open source developments
[05:14] <Iwonder> did you try hdparm and make sure its not lockeds?
[05:15] <MuJ> I don't see what destruction 9999 * 9999 * 9999 could do :|
[05:15] <pagan0ne> Iwonder: how would i do that?
[05:15] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA: the GPL states that you may not sell programs that make use of source code licenced under the GPL without the express permission of the owner
[05:15] <Iwonder> i think something like hdparm -i /dev/hda
[05:16] <Hasrat_USA> yeah epimeth i just found out that you would need to purchase a commercial license for QT to make commercial apps in QT environment, which makes me believe that it's possible to sell/write commercial apps in GNU/linux environment
[05:16] <Smorg> you aren't making use of the source code
[05:16] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA: that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it was a)written in kubuntu and b)compiled with gcc
[05:16] <Smorg> unless you use the compler's source code in your program
[05:16] <daskreech2> mhall53: then obviously you can connect to the internet
[05:16] <Smorg> that language is not speaking of the product of the compiler
[05:16] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA: the QT environment is another story... thats not what you said before :-)
[05:16] <Hasrat_USA> Muj well the possibilities are endless!
[05:16] <pagan0ne> Iwonder: ok, done that, but the 20 lines of output are meaningless to me
[05:17] <MuJ> Hasrat_USA: like -1.02735e+09
[05:17] <mhall53> i disabled the protocal to
[05:17] <Iwonder> type hdparm,look at the switches
[05:17] <mhall53> i allowed irc
[05:17] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA: I don't know much about writing for any x environment... I've never made a program with a GUI
[05:17] <Iwonder> one should say something about locking
[05:17] <Hasrat_USA> uh hmm
[05:18] <elargos> Hi all!
[05:18] <elargos> I am having a problem with my wireless card could I get some help here?
[05:18] <Hasrat_USA> i think i will just want to stay as a troubleshooter for Ubuntu/Kubuntu at the moment and learn to make programs in the background while keeping my ignorant mouth shut and locked as much as possible...seriously
[05:18] <daskreech2> 1wifi
[05:18] <Iwonder> pagan0ne: does fdisk /dev/hdX show it labeled as a ntfs drive
[05:18] <daskreech2> !wifi
[05:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:18] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA:  but writing a program which uses libraries which aren't the bare c/c++ or Java libraries might mean you need to buy rights to the libraries
[05:19] <Iwonder> well fdisk /dev/hdx then p
[05:19] <mhall53> ok i got it i had to allow dns
[05:19] <pagan0ne> Iwonder: i see sompthing about doorlock, but that doesnt seem to apply here, vista is located @ hda1 /boot is hda2 and / is hda3... so the whole drive should be in use, but how could i tell if hda1 is locked?
[05:19] <epimeth> Hasrat_USA: but if you write everything yourself (eg a program which multiplies 9999 by 9999) does not use anything that is licensed in any way shape or form
[05:20] <pagan0ne> Iwonder: it lables hda1 as HPFS/NTFS
[05:20] <Iwonder> you have a point pagan0ne
[05:20] <Iwonder> if you are using the drive its not locked
[05:21] <pagan0ne> the error i get when i do a "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/vista/"
[05:21] <pagan0ne> is "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,"
[05:22] <Iwonder> pagan0ne:  pm me
[05:22] <mhall53> on the right side os adept manager there is a box that says available  tags what is it used for
[05:22] <pagan0ne> Iwonder: let me register my nick
[05:23] <Iwonder> good question mhall53
[05:24] <epimeth> mhall53: I haven't the foggiest
[05:24] <epimeth> mhall53: check out the ynet article I sent you
[05:24] <daskreech2> mhall53: debtags
[05:24] <mhall53> ok thx
[05:24] <mhall53> yea i just  found out
[05:24] <mhall53> playhing around iwth it
[05:25] <mhall53> thx ill use that site
[05:26] <pagan0ne> Iwonder: did you get the pm?
[05:26] <crackhead_25> how do i install a .bin program? what's the command line, and in addition to the commandline, what is the gui program which can do that?
[05:27] <crackhead_25> !bin
[05:27] <epimeth> just a warning, thats one of the two major israeli newspaper's websites... it won't be fully unbiased...
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <crackhead_25> how do i install a .bin program? what's the command line, and in addition to the commandline, what is the gui program which can do that?
[05:35] <Iwonder|too> .bin?
[05:36] <crackhead_25> a .bin package
[05:36] <mhall53> would the  best dvd/cd burning program be k3b
[05:36] <Iwonder|too> never seen one
[05:36] <crackhead_25> i'm attempting to install aptana to do website design work
[05:36] <crackhead_25> it dl's as a .bin
[05:36] <nyinge> crackhead_25<  first.. make it executable..  chmod +x abcd.bin ..  then run it ..    ./abcd.bin
[05:36] <crackhead_25> (unless there is a better website design ide?)
[05:36] <crackhead_25> oh.. "./" means "run"?
[05:37] <Iwonder|too> crackhead_25: the only .bin i've seen was accompanyed by a .cue
[05:37] <crackhead_25> i did the permissions. then i was trying run .bin.. etc.. it ididnt work.
[05:37] <nyinge> pretty much
[05:37] <Iwonder|too> it was a iso sort of file/cd
[05:37] <nyinge> or sh abcd.bin
[05:37] <mhall53> i was thinking about buying the nero for linux have anyone tried it
[05:37] <Iwonder|too> mhall53: what will you be burning
[05:37] <Iwonder|too> also
[05:38] <Iwonder|too> the windows keygen works in nerolinux
[05:38] <mhall53> dvd video data dvds and audio cds
[05:38] <Iwonder|too> neither k3b nor nero will do dvd like download a xvid and burn dvd for home viewing
[05:39] <Iwonder|too> but k3b is cool
[05:39] <crackhead_25> where do i find libc.so.6?
[05:39] <Iwonder|too> for dvd data and audio cds
[05:39] <crackhead_25> apparently the package needs it to install istself.. ?
[05:40] <Iwonder|too> crackhead_25:  did you search in adept
[05:40] <crackhead_25> im about to search in adept
[05:41] <crackhead_25> nothing came up?
[05:41] <Iwonder|too> how about libc6?
[05:41] <daskreech2> Iwonder|too: Try k3b1.0
[05:42] <crackhead_25> that showed a bunch of things, a few of which are installed..
[05:42] <Iwonder|too> to encode video?
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> kmediafactory, i think
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> for a quick and dirty dvd
[05:42] <Iwonder|too> i've been using any2dvd
[05:42] <crackhead_25> how do i know which, if any of them, i need for this package?
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> and the latest k3b (repos are WAY behind)
[05:43] <mhall53> im liking kubuntu so far great community
[05:43] <daskreech2> :-)
[05:43] <mhall53> i have been asking questions all day and no one has cursed me out yet
[05:43] <Iwonder|too> mhall53: i agree i've been praising it
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> mhall53: because ubuntu isn't a community full of the "elite" that get off on telling new users to RTFM
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> (which is one of the biggest barriers to adoption, in my opinion)
[05:44] <RaNDyMyZe> crackhead_25: do you have eclipse installed?
[05:45] <Iwonder|too> !eclipse
[05:45] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[05:45] <crackhead_25> i dont need eclipse. i'm installing the standalone, not the plugin.
[05:45] <mhall53> yea, ive tried other distros but as soon as i need help someone would talk crazy to me so i gave up and went back to windows
[05:45] <daskreech2> mhall53: talk crazy?
[05:45] <crackhead_25> it appears it can't find the java runtime directory/file. though i have jre6 installed already--which i'm assuming is able to support this (because this only includes 1.4.2?)?
[05:46] <RaNDyMyZe> crackhead_25: Aptana relies on the base, so it would be easy if you had eclipse installed.
[05:46] <Iwonder|too> i've been using gentoo for a few years and love it,but hate the compile time,decided to try kubuntu as a quickie on here and really really like it as well as the very good community/support
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> time for bed
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> have a good night (or day, depending)
[05:47] <Hasrat_USA> i'll have a good night. thanks :)
[05:49] <crackhead_25> what's the commandline command to delete a file?
[05:49] <firecrotch> crackhead_25: rm
[05:50] <Iwonder|too> to delete a file/directory,or a package?
[05:59] <mhall53> are there any other boot loader other then grub and lilo
[05:59] <ahlalo_elyon> Is it possible to set it up so that Ktorrent is running at all times (whether any users are logged on or not)?
[06:00] <ahlalo_elyon> mhall53: Not that anyone would recommend running.  What's wrong with those two?
[06:00] <daskreech2> ahlalo_elyon: just use normal bittorrent
[06:00] <ahlalo_elyon> daskreech2: I don't want to :)
[06:00] <Jucato> or a CLI-based torrent client
[06:01] <Iwonder|too> mhall53: what is the problem with grub/
[06:01] <ahlalo_elyon> hmm
[06:01] <daskreech2> ahlalo_elyon: you can try nohup but... why waste resources if no one is looking at it?
[06:01] <mhall53> grub is ugly it look good after i installed with suse now its just black
[06:02] <ahlalo_elyon> daskreech2: Well, I would have LIKED to just keep myself logged in and allow others to login... but that has always caused Kubuntu to crash (requires a hard reset)
[06:02] <Iwonder|too> mhall53: append a splash image
[06:02] <ahlalo_elyon> mhall53: You do realize you only see it for like 10 seconds, right? ;)
[06:02] <mhall53> yes but that throws me off when i see it,
[06:02] <daskreech2> ahlalo_elyon: have you ever reported it?
[06:03] <Iwonder|too> its easy to do
[06:03] <ahlalo_elyon> daskreech2: Just here... but all I get is "Well, multisession support in KDE sucks"
[06:03] <space_ninja> I'm trying to log into a ssh, but I can't get in, what the corect way to login?
[06:03] <ahlalo_elyon> ...not sure where else to report it.
[06:03] <daskreech2> that's not nearly good enough
[06:03] <daskreech2> ahlalo_elyon: try launchpad
[06:04] <daskreech2>  or at least #kubuntu-devel
[06:04] <mhall53> can i pose a url without getting in trouble
[06:04] <Iwonder|too> space_ninja: ssh <user>@<host>
[06:05] <daskreech2> mhall53: is it family friendly?
[06:05] <Jucato> mhall53: is it relevant to Kubuntu?
[06:06] <Iwonder|too> i've opened as many as i have avaiable f-keys
[06:06] <space_ninja> wonder, it's not working
[06:06] <Iwonder|too> space_ninja: are you sure opensshd is running on server machine?
[06:06] <space_ninja> yes
[06:07] <Iwonder|too> netstat -l shows its listening on 22?
[06:07] <space_ninja> sshd is a process
[06:07] <space_ninja> is there anything special I should do?
[06:08] <mhall53> yes its a kubuntu grub splash
[06:08] <Jucato> sure paste the link
[06:08] <Iwonder|too> on that box can you ssh <user@127.0.0.1?
[06:09] <Hasrat_USA> good night all. time to hit the bed
[06:09] <mhall53> http://cmaverick.files.wordpress.com/2006/09/kubuscreenshot.jpg
[06:10] <mhall53> this what i want grub to look like
[06:10] <mhall53> good nite
[06:11] <Jucato> mhall53: you need to install gfxboot, which is what SUSE uses as well
[06:11] <Jucato> !gfxboot
[06:11] <ubotu> gfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.23-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[06:11] <mhall53> ok thx
[06:11] <mhall53> yea its getting later thx for all the help
[06:11] <Iwonder|too> i added a splash to my desktop ,got the how-to from wiki
[06:15] <daskreech2> that is pretty :-)
[06:16] <utnubuk> i have two network cards connected to differant networks, how do i find out which one im using for http and which one im using for other stuff etc???
[06:16] <Jucato> regular grub can be prettified as well... but yeah gfxboot makes things prettier...
[06:17] <LeeJunFan> utnubuk: there's more to it than that - unless you have advanced routing configured with rules and such then you are using one for all.
[06:17] <Iwonder|too> in wiki the is a splash.xpm entry
[06:17] <utnubuk> LeeJunFan: thanks man i figured that might be the case
[06:17] <LeeJunFan> utnubuk: whichever one shows up when you run 'ip route | grep default | head -1' is what all your internet traffic goes over
[06:18] <utnubuk> LeeJunFan: thanks man i figured that might be the case
[06:18] <utnubuk> ahh sorry
[06:18] <utnubuk> i was gonna say:  what does the "|" symbol mean?
[06:18] <Jucato> it's a pipe.
[06:19] <LeeJunFan> utnubuk: pipe, it means to send the output of the command before the | to the command after the |
[06:19] <Jucato> takes the output of the previous command and uses it as the input of the next ocmmand
[06:19] <Jucato> command*
[06:19] <utnubuk> cool thanks
[06:19] <utnubuk> im a big noob but im trying to learn so...
[06:20] <Contrast> What's up, everyone?
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> Contrast: systems running Linux are, the Windows ones are all down :)
[06:21] <Contrast> Clever. ;-)
[06:21] <Contrast> Jucato:, what was the package you said I have to install to get the nVidia proprietary driver to work?
[06:21] <Contrast> I'll write it down this time. :-D
[06:22] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:24] <Contrast> Hmm... Already got those, still no dice. I just put Xorg 7.2 on a fresh install.
[06:25] <Jucato> you put xorg 7.2?
[06:25] <Jucato> what version of Kubuntu are you on?
[06:25] <Contrast> 6.10. I used Trevino's repository.
[06:26] <Jucato> ah
[06:26] <Jucato> I don't know how to fix that... that only works if you use the official packages for X and the kernel...
[06:27] <surgy> i need a tool to convert an iso into a .bin can someone give me a recomendation please?
[06:28] <Contrast> Have you heard anything about if/when Xorg 7.2 will be in the official repositories?
[06:29] <Jucato> Contrast: it alrady is in feisty
[06:29] <surgy> jucato: can you help me convert this iso to a bin please?
[06:30] <Jucato> surgy: I would if I knew how to...
[06:30] <surgy> this sux, i cant use my psx emulator without this
[06:30] <LeeJunFan> !info bin2iso
[06:30] <ubotu> Package bin2iso does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:30] <LeeJunFan> hrm, could have sworn.
[06:31] <LeeJunFan> !info bchunk | surgy
[06:31] <ubotu> surgy: bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[06:31] <Contrast> Jucato:, I'm guessing that means they won't be putting it in Edgy's?
[06:31] <surgy> yeah but i want to convert from iso to bin
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> ah, I though that went both ways.
[06:32] <Jucato> Contrast: I wouldn't know, but most probably not
[06:33] <Contrast> Jucato: K. Well, thanks a lot for the info. Peace.
[06:41] <utnubuk> h
[06:46] <daskreech2> i
[06:57] <momal> !info k3b
[06:57] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB
[06:57] <momal> Ahh, v1.0 hasn't been put in reps yet
[07:11] <firecrotch> How can I prevent a certain IP address from logging in to my computer via SSH?
[07:24] <igi_> hellp
[07:25] <igi_> I want to install octave-sp package on kubuntu, but it shows break in adept
[07:25] <igi_> it seems to be dependent on some outdated packages
[07:26] <igi_> any ideas?
[07:43] <SilentDis> hello :)
[07:44] <firecrotch> hello, SilentDis
[07:45] <SilentDis> greetings firecrotch.  rather slow here this evening. :)
[07:46] <firecrotch> Well, it's Sunday night, most people have to go to work tomorrow morning
[07:47] <SilentDis> ah well.  gives me time to read DotE :)
[07:51] <carutsu> hello, i'm having sound problems, it was working fine before, i've tried turning off then on the sound in settings, killing artds then respawning it, and even deleting the temp files under temp
[07:51] <carutsu> under tmp, sry
[07:51] <carutsu> ant ideas?
[07:52] <carutsu> *any
[07:52] <firecrotch> carutsu: Is it possible that your sound card died?  Have you checked that you have your speakers turned on and plugged in?
[07:52] <SilentDis> carutsu: hmm... just to get the obvious out of the way, did you try a reboot/cold boot?
[07:53] <carutsu> SilentDis yes, i even turned off the session restore
[07:53] <carutsu> firecrotch i havent checked that, it's a laptop...
[07:53] <carutsu> i gues i may boot up under windows
[07:53] <SilentDis> 'modern' software driven hardware always has weird problems that are solved by reboot.  I think fondly back to my SB16 and hardware based modems *sigh*
[07:54] <SilentDis> carutsu: does it list in lspci still?
[07:54] <carutsu> SilentDis i already tried rebooting, this is so weird as far as i know sound is somehow basic
[07:54] <firecrotch> carutsu: Definitely a good idea to try it in Windows.  If it doesn't work in Win, then you can pretty much assume that it's dead
[07:55] <carutsu> firecrotch, yep
[07:55] <carutsu> SilentDis lspci? no i havent
[07:55] <menisk> This is a really noob question... How do I apply different themes in beryl?
[07:55] <SilentDis> carutsu: lspci just lists all your PCI devices on the bus.  not a bad first place to check for weird hardware issues.  if linux can't even see it...
[07:56] <SilentDis> menisk: emerald is the theme manager. KMenu > Settings > Emerald Theme Manager :)
[07:56] <carutsu> !paste
[07:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:57] <menisk> SilentDis, I can get to the theme manager and add themes to the list, but can't apply them.
[07:57] <menisk> >_<
[07:57] <carutsu> SilentDis, nope is there
[07:57] <SilentDis> menisk: they should apply the instant you click on them.
[07:57] <menisk> Hmm.
[07:57] <menisk> Weird.
[07:57] <menisk> Okay, thanks anyway.
[07:57] <firecrotch> menisk: offtopic, but was that supposed to be >_<  ?
[07:57] <SilentDis> carutsu: ah ha!  to the log files!  *badman theme music plays*
[07:57] <carutsu> firecrotch is listed, i dont think it has passed
[07:58] <SilentDis> er, batman
[07:58] <carutsu> xD
[07:58] <firecrotch> Odd, the < character isn't showing up for me
[07:58] <menisk> Firecrotch, it's likr "damn" like srunching your eyes.
[07:59] <firecrotch> menisk: I know, the last character isn't displaying for me
[07:59] <SilentDis> carutsu: if you have a favorite viewer, use that, there's always KMenu > System > KSystemLog as well :)
[08:00] <carutsu> SilentDis, errr, i'm afraid i dont know what i'm looking for
[08:00] <mervteck> can anyone tell my why my flash stick wont show up but my psp will?
[08:00] <SilentDis> carutsu: scroll through and see if you can find the date/time when you booted and noticed the sound had died.  there'll usually be an error or some notifier of a failed attempt to init it.
[08:01] <firecrotch> mervteck: output of dmesg ?
[08:01] <Ryiel> hello
[08:02] <SilentDis> Ryiel: greetings and salutations :)
[08:02] <firecrotch> Hi, Ryiel!
[08:02] <mervteck> firecrotch: uh... what? xD
[08:02] <menisk> SilentDis: :D I found out, I have to change to KDE, change hen back to beryl.
[08:02] <menisk> SilentDis: Dunno why but :D
[08:02] <carutsu> >_<... anyway i was going to change of laptop, any suggestions for _full_ linux compatibility?
[08:02] <SilentDis> menisk: you're missing a line in your xorg.conf.  i had the same issue till i made the change.
[08:03] <firecrotch> mervteck: plug in the flash stick, and then in console run "dmesg", and pastebin the output
[08:03] <SilentDis> menisk: give me a moment, let me check mine out, i can't remember the exact line by heart.
[08:03] <Ryiel> I've got an annoying problem. I installed kde on ubuntu and now i cannot type symbols everywhere (>#&@ these ones) I can type in konqueror but not in Firefox, i can type in konversation but not in xchat anymore. Any clue how to solve it?
[08:03] <mervteck> whats the link to pastebin again?
[08:03] <menisk> carutsu: I have a dell inspiron 1501 and it has full support as well as running very nicely.
[08:03] <SilentDis> !pastebin | mervteck
[08:03] <ubotu> mervteck: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:04] <carutsu> menisk i've heard good things about Dell
[08:04] <menisk> carutsu: 1GB DDR2 533mhz, 2.0Ghz Turion x2 and Ati.
[08:04] <menisk> Everything works.
[08:04] <menisk> Including ATi hardware acceleration.
[08:04] <menisk> :D
[08:04] <carutsu> menisk pretty nice
[08:04] <SilentDis> menisk: under `Section "Screen"` add this line, or make sure it's there: Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true
[08:05] <mervteck> im guessing i have no driver for it cuz it says pretty much the same message over and over, and driver=00
[08:05] <Ryiel> I already changed my keyboard layout to hungarian but it still does not work. For example i cannot type symbols in openoffice...
[08:05] <carutsu> menisk: was it pricy?
[08:05] <menisk> carutsu: I dual boot a few weeks ago, haven't booted to windows since cause it works so damn well.
[08:05] <carutsu> menisk: the only thing i miss of windows are the games and c#, although c# is comming!
[08:05] <mervteck> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11002/
[08:06] <firecrotch> mervteck: You shouldn't need a special driver for it
[08:06] <SilentDis> menisk: ohh wait, you have an ati card...  i'm running nvidia, and I can't remember if that's nvidia only or not.
[08:06] <menisk> carutsu: The cheapest of the range. :D I paid $1300 AUD
[08:06] <SilentDis> menisk: give it a try, but if it breaks, just know what you changed so you can easily change it back :)
[08:06] <menisk> SilentDis: I'll just use it the way it is, I remember that line from setup, it is nvidia
[08:07] <Ryiel> Firefox does not want to run now... Strange..
[08:07] <carutsu> menisk: which un usd is about?
[08:07] <SilentDis> menisk: ok.  sorry about that. :)
[08:07] <firecrotch> mervteck: That's... quite odd.  Never seen that before
[08:07] <carutsu> oh btw firefox crashes over here every single time a dialog opens
[08:07] <menisk> SilentDis: DOn't appologise for trying to help.
[08:08] <firecrotch> carutsu: About $1000
[08:08] <menisk> carutsu: I think you  can get a good one for about $1000 usd.
[08:08] <menisk> carutsu: Have a look at the dell site, build yourself one and see how much it will cost.
[08:09] <firecrotch> mervteck: Are you plugging it into a USB port on the front of your case, and does it happen to be a Dell?
[08:09] <SilentDis> if i purchased a laptop at this point, i'd insist on an Intel graphics chipset for it.
[08:09] <mervteck> menisk: Give me your honest comparison between your rig and mine =) Amd Athlon X2 4600 OCed to 5400 4 gb ddr400 ram, a 7950gt 512 mb oced to 600 coreclock, all watercooled kept at around 15 degrees C below normal gaming temp ( proc is normally around 45C and video around 65 C
[08:09] <carutsu> menisk i will, although where i live i'd have to go to EU for it, over here the laptops _always_ are 2-3 times more expensive than in the US
[08:09] <mervteck> Nope custom build but it is in the front, it worked like 10 mineuts ago and all of a suddon it dont wanna
[08:09] <menisk> carutsu: Your system makes me cry.
[08:09] <menisk> >_<
[08:09] <menisk> :P
[08:09] <LegolasV> Just done an upgrade using the DistUpgrade tool, everything works perfect, although I have some comments... Where can I post them?
[08:10] <firecrotch> mervteck: Did you umount it properly?
[08:10] <menisk> carutsu: Any chance of getting it as a hand me down? :P
[08:10] <mervteck> cant say i did =\ i just yanked it out >.<
[08:10] <carutsu> menisk: my sistem makes you cry? err why?
[08:10] <SilentDis> LegolasV: just curious... from what version did you upgrade?  it'll help me guide you to the right comment area on the wiki :)
[08:10] <firecrotch> mervteck: Looks like you may have gotten unlucky with that
[08:10] <menisk> carutsu: I wantz!
[08:10] <LegolasV> SilentDis: Edgy -> Feisty
[08:11] <mervteck> what can i do then fire?
[08:11] <mervteck> i need my music!
[08:11] <firecrotch> mervteck: Do you have access to another computer?
[08:11] <mervteck> then again my sound down work so i gotta transfer to my psp then plug my psp to my speekers =\
[08:11] <SilentDis> LegolasV: hop over to #ubuntu+1.  there's known issues still (as it's still not in release form) and they'll be best able to direct you to a good place for help/comments/support/etc :)
[08:11] <menisk> carutsu: I have built a better rig for someone though. Intel Core 2 Duo X6800, 2 8800GTXs in SLi.
[08:11] <mervteck> yes i do my windows 2003 server tower
[08:11] <Ryiel> Can someone help me? I installed kde on ubuntu and now i cannot type symbols everywhere (>#&@ these ones) I can type in konqueror but not in Firefox, i can type in konversation but not in xchat anymore. Any clue how to solve it?
[08:11] <menisk> carutsu: He had too much bloody money.
[08:11] <mervteck> i HATE Core 2 Duo
[08:12] <menisk> mervteck: Why?
[08:12] <firecrotch> mervteck: Try it on there, if you can access it, it may start working again on your Linux comp
[08:12] <carutsu> menisk i think you are speaking about the mervteck system
[08:12] <SilentDis> Ryiel: sounds like the keyboard map got messed or something... have you tried just reconfiguring X, to see if it solves it?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:12] <menisk> carutsu: ?
[08:12] <firecrotch> mervteck:  also... Ewwww Windows server
[08:12] <mervteck> kks 1 sec fire
[08:12] <LegolasV> SilentDis: ok, some comments are about the tool for kubuntu (as in the topic), should these also be there?
[08:13] <Ryiel> SilentDis: Thanks, i give it a go
[08:13] <menisk> mervteck: I still worship AMD, but he wated top of the line, and currently intel hold that.
[08:13] <mervteck> YEH YEAH! i have fedora on it too but some things like to run better on windows for some gay ass reason =\ usually cuz im too retarded to set it up right
[08:13] <SilentDis> LegolasV: yes.  right now, as it's still pre-release, everyone tends to congrigate in #ubuntu+1 for all issues associated with the next ubuntu version.
[08:13] <menisk> carutsu: What do you mean I'm thinking about the mervteck system?
[08:14] <LegolasV> SilentDis: ok, thanks :)
[08:14] <carutsu> menisk you are speaking about some specs, he posted his, i didnt
[08:14] <mervteck> yes AMD is the best, BY FAR the BEST customer service too, i had to return a proc ( my most recent ) under warenty, i had a 4200 when i sent it in then they replaced it with a 4600 and gave me credit to a store to get the water cool kit lols i absolutely love AMD
[08:14] <firecrotch> LegolasV: mind if I PM you?
[08:14] <menisk> carutsu: Oh, sorry. :P I fail.
[08:15] <LegolasV> firecrotch: no problem
[08:15] <carutsu> menisk, dont worry, XD
[08:15] <carutsu> i wish i could just not buy vista,
[08:15] <mervteck> hey Fire can u pm me?
[08:15] <menisk> carutsu: What are you running on at the moment, just interested.
[08:16] <SilentDis> Ryiel: after you finish setting X up again, restart KDM with ctrl-alt-backspace (mind you, everything you have open will get a kill sig, and exit, of course)
[08:16] <carutsu> menisk Kubuntu 6.10 sual booting with XP
[08:16] <menisk> carutsu: Don't buy vista, you still have the option of buying a dell with XP, you just have to click that link at the front of the site.
[08:16] <menisk> carutsu: Like hardware.
[08:17] <SilentDis> menisk: there's some dell models that'll ship without an OS installed, with a FreeDOS install disk too.  shaves a good $100 or so off the system :)
[08:17] <menisk> SilentDis: Let carutsu know.
[08:18] <carutsu> not too much
[08:18] <SilentDis> carutsu: Dell offers a line of machines (the "L" series I believe) with no OS installed.  Shaves a good $100 off the price (no more microsoft tax) :)
[08:18] <carutsu> menisk... a 1 year old centrino 1.7 Ghz 512MB DDR2 100 GB... a normal PC
[08:19] <SilentDis> oy I SO need to upgrade.  lol
[08:19] <Iwonder|too> can someone share there adept repository source list?
[08:19] <carutsu> SilentDis... mmm not too much save, but i'd be able to use it for more Ram or something, xD
[08:19] <carutsu> SilentDis, why?
[08:20] <SilentDis> Athalon XP 1900 (1.6GHz), 1.25GB RAM, AGP Nvidia 7600GS vid.  No SATA, no USB 2 even.  lol
[08:20] <menisk> carutsu: If you do get a inspiron 1501, make a point of getting the 9cell 85whr battery, I get a good 7 and a half hours out of it on windows, normal use too. Just wind the processor back to 800mhz and dim the screen. Not such a bad performance hit either.
[08:20] <igi_> can someone try to install octave-sp package in 6.10, I can't do it, seems to be dependent on outdated packages?
[08:20] <carutsu> OMG!
[08:21] <firecrotch> !info octave-sp
[08:21] <menisk> carutsu: I use the battery everyday, at t hasn't depleated that badly.
[08:21] <ubotu> octave-sp: Semidefinite Programming functions for GNU Octave. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2003-3 (edgy), package size 313 kB, installed size 488 kB
[08:21] <igi_> !info octave-sp
[08:21] <menisk> carutsu: You forget it's on battery cause you can lose it that long, I'm on 9% reaming and 1:02 minutes.
[08:21] <menisk> :P
[08:21] <SilentDis> I do make up for it in storage space.  350GB in 2 drives on the machine, 160GB on a netdrive... and a 1TB RAID0 Array running on SCSI Ultra-Wide2 :)
[08:21] <menisk> Crazyness.
[08:22] <menisk> SilentDis: Holy. Teh. F**king. Crup.
[08:22] <carutsu> menisk that's amazing my bateries only last for an hour
[08:22] <carutsu> you are killing me guys
[08:22] <SilentDis> menisk: I barely use the raid array.  it's all full-height server drives in an external enclosure.  sounds like a jet engine at takeoff and vibrates my whole house lol
[08:22] <menisk> carutsu: This is my first lappy, when I get a new one, I am making a point of getting the biggest battery.
[08:23] <carutsu> menisk so there are better bateries?
[08:23] <menisk> SilentDis: Cheap flights to new your, boarding downstaris.
[08:23] <mervteck> Can Anyone help me get my sound working? the thing the bot says didnt help.
[08:23] <menisk> carutsu: Yes, I think there is a 4cell, 6cell and 9cell, I got the 9 and love it.
[08:24] <menisk> SilentDis: Newyork*
[08:24] <menisk> mervteck: What kind of sound card is it? Model etc.
[08:24] <firecrotch> igi_: Your best bet would be to try to install all of it's dependencies first
[08:24] <igi_> can someone try to install octave-sp package in 6.10, I can't do it, seems to be dependent on outdated packages?
[08:25] <SilentDis> menisk: more like right in my 'puter room.  i use to use it for vid editing, as it was the FASTEST thing in the world.  with all 4 drives clicking away, I'd saturate the scsi channel at times lol
[08:25] <mervteck> SB Live .... uhh i know its a 5.1 i forget the number from it, whats the command in konsole to check it
[08:25] <menisk> carutsu: If you like music, my lappy has a HD sound card :D
[08:25] <firecrotch> igi_: apt-cache showpkg octave-sp will show you all of it's dependencies
[08:25] <SilentDis> mervteck: lspci will give you a list of your PCI devices :)
[08:26] <igi_> firecrotch: I tried, but there is a deoendent package which I can't find in reps
[08:26] <igi_> it is outdated
[08:26] <Orange1> are we discussing specs!?
[08:26] <igi_> I can find only newer version
[08:26] <firecrotch> igi_: Which package?
[08:27] <mervteck> 01:08.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 05)
[08:27] <carutsu> menisk, i gotta go for one myself, however i must do it personally, acording to their site, they'll charme 1,600usd for 1.6ghz core 2 duo, 80gb, 512 DDR2!
[08:27] <carutsu> that's insane
[08:27] <igi_> firecrotch: libhdf5-1.6.4-0
[08:27] <mervteck> OH! EMU10K1 is the model i believe
[08:28] <Orange1> carutsu: for a laptop 1600$?
[08:28] <carutsu> yep
[08:28] <Orange1> carutsu: too much
[08:28] <carutsu> i know!, http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/precn_m65?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&adv=NBAdvisor
[08:28] <Orange1> carutsu: dell too..
[08:29] <Orange1> carutsu: o well i got a dell too.. battery life atmost 2hours if i dont game
[08:29] <SilentDis> as this is all about ubuntu, i'd like to recommend people check out http://www.system76.com/ they sell ubuntu preinstalled on desktops and lappys :)
[08:29] <Orange1> and i have that 9-cell batt
[08:29] <mervteck> =O
[08:29] <mervteck> best site ever! xD
[08:29] <carutsu> Orange1, you probably have the 3 cell..
[08:29] <carutsu> Orange1, what1?
[08:30] <Orange1> carutsu: no no.. im certain its 9 cell
[08:30] <Orange1> i have 2 of them. so i can swap
[08:30] <carutsu> Orange, then you gotta have a 8core, or something!@
[08:30] <Orange1> carutsu: something like that
[08:30] <firecrotch> igi_:  wow, that's an outdated package for sure! It's from Breezy!
[08:30] <SilentDis> and i'm pretty sure you could talk 'em into throwing kubuntu on there rather than ubuntu :)
[08:31] <Orange1> !UUE
[08:31] <igi_> firecrotch: are you maintainer, can you fix this?
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <kraut> moin
[08:31] <firecrotch> igi_: Nope, not a maintainer, but I'm trying to figure out some way to get ocatave-sp installed for you
[08:33] <SilentDis> firecrotch: pull from the debian repos and install by hand maybe?
[08:33] <carutsu> menisk, can you private me, so we arent doing off-topic
[08:33] <carutsu> ?
[08:33] <mervteck> =( i miss my sound >.<
[08:33] <Orange1> anyone know of a good power surge to take on vacation... dont want the lappy to burn out cuz extreme electricity flunctuations
[08:33] <carutsu> mervteck so do i
[08:33] <carutsu> ever heard of APC?
[08:33] <firecrotch> SilentDis: That's what I'm thinking, trying to find it :)
[08:34] <SilentDis> Orange1: check out APC.  they put out a lot of nice power utils, and I know they make portable supressors and such.  I've had really good luck with their UPS units :)
[08:34] <firecrotch> igi_: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fs%2Fsemidef-oct%2Foctave-sp_2003-2_i386.deb&md5sum=8494ec2b7c56510d8b919337645547ce&arch=i386&type=main  Download the package from one of the mirrors there, and try to install it
[08:34] <mervteck> can anyone figure out why my sound wont work =\
[08:35] <firecrotch> !automatix > mervteck
[08:35] <SilentDis> mervteck: you mentioned you were going to try booting in windows.  what happened, must've missed it :)
[08:35] <Orange1> SilentDis: the electricity goes out alot where im going.. and its very unstable or the current is very low -- apc it is
[08:35] <SilentDis> Orange1: they even have portable UPS units now :)
[08:35] <SilentDis> Orange1: an extra battery for your lappy hehe
[08:35] <igi_> firecrotch: this is even worst, dependent on libhdf5-1.6.2-0
[08:35] <carutsu> menisk, ever had any troubles with AMD architecture? is same as intel's 386?
[08:36] <carutsu> SilentDis i was who was going to boot on windows, however i just got lazy
[08:36] <SilentDis> oh lol, sorry
[08:36] <carutsu> SilentDis, xD!
[08:36] <mervteck> HAHA i never boot windows! cept my server tower but ehh...
[08:36] <Orange1> SilentDis: UPC comes with surge and all those other features to prevent it from dmging hardware?
[08:37] <mervteck> ive officially given up windows, strictly linux but problem is everything goes slow to start, due to me being still noobish, trying to get better but so far everyones either not been able to teach meh too much or was a total dick =\
[08:37] <carutsu> Orange1, make sure it has their Pick?-shaving technology, my father sell them
[08:37] <Iwonder|too> damn i think i should have done the system upgrade before i got 1300 packages on here
[08:38] <sandro__> hi and good morning all .. im having trouble with krdc/rdesktop .. i get very weird output when moving intuition elements .. is there an alternative to using "rdesktop" ?! im running 1.4.1 - homepage says 1.5 is released - can i find that on any repos ?
[08:38] <SilentDis> Orange1: I've been running their UPS units for years.  i tend to stick to the ones with insurance on 'em.  they certify no power damage, so long as you use it properly, up to something like $10,000.  I've actually had this machine remain on and fine through massive electrical storms that caused mammoth spikes both up and down, and the ups just keeps chugging :)
[08:38] <menisk_> carutsu: I managed to crash my router, sorry if you were trying to talk to me.
[08:39] <SilentDis> Orange1: it really is a !worksforme thing though.  with the warntee, at least, you'll get new hardware should something happen :)
[08:39] <carutsu> menisk: or anyone, have anyone had any compatibility troubles with AMD processors? should i pick the 64bits or stick with 32bits one?
[08:39] <carutsu> menis_ i did, xD
[08:39] <SilentDis> eep!  DotE updated, time to go and read for me.  take care all :)
[08:39] <SilentDis> http://dote2.blogspot.com/ heheehe
[08:40] <menisk_> carutsu: I am using 64 bit right now, works a charm. But don't use 64bit windows. All the base files are 32bit and it runs slower. :P
[08:40] <carutsu> menisk_ xD!
[08:40] <carutsu> menisk_ sure? no problems with drivers issues or so?
[08:41] <carutsu> what about the 32-only apps? does it virtuallice? or has the same commands?
[08:42] <mervteck> yeah can someone help me install Wine on my 64 bit, and i KNOW its possible ive done it b4 but forgot how to
[08:42] <menisk_> carutsu: runs as if it were 32bit, no issues. But runs so much faster on 64bit apps.
[08:42] <carutsu> menisk_ ok
[08:43] <menisk_> carutsu: It will cut extracting files in half. When I played with OSX86, it cut the 6GB tarball extraction from 20mins to about 7.
[08:43] <menisk_> :D
[08:43] <carutsu> menisk_ wow
[08:43] <menisk_> carutsu: Definately go dual core though. Another upside of this laptop is it runs very cool, not hot at all.
[08:44] <carutsu> menisk_ i knew that, dual core or nothing
[08:44] <menisk_> carutsu: Do you do any 3d gaming?
[08:44] <carutsu> menisk_ i used to, however since the "change" i haven't
[08:44] <menisk_> Ah.
[08:44] <carutsu> menisk_ i have a trouble-maker video card
[08:45] <carutsu> menisk_ so it's hard to run games on linux
[08:45] <carutsu> menisk_ its an intel i850
[08:46] <Iwonder|too> speaking of games,are ya'll running windows games or games ported to linux?
[08:46] <menisk_> This has a weird video card actually, In windows where it has full support, It runs 256mb ddr and 256mb GDDR, semi intergrated. :P
[08:46] <mervteck> anyone got a clue how to help meh?
[08:46] <menisk_> carutsu: You laptop sounds like it would be great for OSX86.
[08:47] <menisk_> carutsu: You played with OSX86 on it?
[08:47] <carutsu> OSX86? not at all
[08:47] <menisk_> carutsu: With an intel xhipset you woyld get almost full support.
[08:47] <menisk_> carutsu: let me grab a link, essentially it lets you run OS X on a PC.
[08:48] <menisk_> carutsu: It is illegal, but hey.
[08:48] <carutsu> menisk_ thats weird
[08:48] <menisk_> carutsu: You interested?
[08:49] <carutsu> menisk_ i'm afraid i'll stick with linux
[08:49] <carutsu> menisk_ thx anyway!
[08:49] <menisk_> carutsu: Even on the old lappy?
[08:49] <carutsu> menisk_ eh... oh well hand the link to me
[08:49] <carutsu> in the lcd panel, what a hell is TrueLife technology?
[08:50] <menisk_> carutsu: I wish I had an old lappy, I have almost full support for OSX 'cept for my sata, I wonder if it's possible to use a linux driver.
[08:50] <menisk_> carutsu: I didn't know, so I didn't get it. My LCD is fine.
[08:50] <menisk_> carutsu: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[08:51] <carutsu> there are a lot of options in batery...
[08:52] <menisk_> carutsu: Get the big one!
[08:52] <sandro__> just to "be complete" upgrading rdesktop from 1.4.1 (official repo) to 1.5 (dl source at rdesktop.org) fixed all my problems .. all fine now
[08:52] <carutsu> i was going to pick:
[08:52] <carutsu> 85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery [add $50] 
[08:52] <carutsu> Dell Recommended
[08:52] <carutsu> Battery life of up to 5.5 hours
[08:52] <carutsu> but there's another one: 9-cell  Primary Battery and 9-cell additional Lithium Ion Battery [add $149] 
[08:53] <menisk_> carutsu: Dell have it wrong, I have powernow on, and that gets you all the way too 7.5 hours
[08:53] <menisk_> carutsu: That is a 2nd battery.
[08:54] <menisk_> Someone here who is a linux pro, would it be possible to use a linux driver on darwin seeing as though it is BSD, a ranch of unix.
[08:54] <menisk_> branch*
[08:55] <Orange1> carutsu: what are u trying to do?
[08:55] <menisk_> Orange1: He looking at getting a new laptop and seening what is available.
[08:55] <firecrotch> menisk_:  I would assume that it would at least have to be modified a little
[08:56] <Orange1> menisk_: buy the one i got. its awesome
[08:56] <menisk_> firecrotch: Not something that a noob like me could do.. >_<
[08:56] <menisk_> Orange1: What have you got, spec me.
[08:56] <firecrotch> menisk_:  Definitely not, but it can't really hurt to try using it as-is
[08:57] <carutsu> Orange1: me?
[08:57] <menisk_> firecrotch: I don't even know how to install it on darwin. Or where to gra it from off my linux installation.
[08:58] <Orange1> menisk_: T7400 2.16ghz Core2D oc'd to 3.0ghz / 7900GS oc'd too / 2gigs ddr2 667mhz // 100gb 7200rpm // 17" screen with that glossy thing / dell N wireless card
[08:59] <Orange1> and all those other things like card reader / dvd dual layer burner - etc
[08:59] <menisk_> Orange1: There is also the matter of what a 14year old like me can afford. :P I'm still in debt from this one. :(
[08:59] <cpk1> get a job
[08:59] <cpk1> you should be able to work part time at 14
[09:00] <menisk_> cpk1: Me? I tried. they said I was to young.
[09:00] <Orange1> yea... i used to work at a daycare -- caring for kids ages 4-12 when i was 14-17yrs old
[09:01] <menisk_> Orange1: I just want to pack boxes, stack shelves or whatever I ca get.
[09:01] <Lynoure> Here they would pretty much tell you "not a chance" except for summer jobs.
[09:01] <Orange1> ah the old days... i remember running from school to my job everyday - just to be on time
[09:01] <carutsu> i made all the choicees i wanted, mostly of it was the best they had and is only 931, that's cheap... or i had not a real choice
[09:01] <Orange1> carutsu: what model?
[09:01] <Ryiel> hey
[09:01] <menisk_> carutsu: maybe look at a model up if you can afford better.
[09:02] <menisk_> Inspiron 640m I think it is.
[09:02] <carutsu> Orange1: the suggested by menisk, 1501
[09:02] <Orange1> carutsu: what budget?
[09:02] <menisk_> Orange1: For a cheap lappy, it's great.
[09:02] <menisk_> carutsu: Yeah, what is your budget?
[09:02] <carutsu> i was expecting around 1100-1300
[09:03] <menisk_> Ah, 'll look around and find some model for you to look at.
[09:03] <Ryiel> Still no luck, i reconfigured xorg but i still cannot write symbols in openoffice or firefox. (firefox does not even run now :( )
[09:03] <Orange1> u work carutsu?
[09:03] <carutsu> Orange1: might be said...
[09:03] <menisk_> carutsu: Is that USD?
[09:03] <carutsu> menisk__ yep
[09:03] <menisk_> Okay.
[09:04] <menisk_> carutsu: have you got MSN or Jabber, may be easier than talking in a huge channel/
[09:04] <Orange1> menisk_: they all sleeping menisk_ its ok
[09:04] <menisk_> carutsu: do you like a small laptop?
[09:05] <menisk_> carutsu: LOL
[09:05] <Orange1> carutsu: u might want to look at refurb lappys -- u can get them pretty cheap
[09:05] <carutsu> sorry was on my RSI break
[09:05] <menisk_> carutsu: You shoud use dvorak if you have RSI issues.
[09:06] <carutsu> menisk__ although this seems pretty good for me.. 2GB of ram, 120 GB hdd, the processor i'm not sure, i've never used AMD, so i dont know if AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-56 is goof
[09:06] <Orange1> carutsu: $400 off Inspiron purchases of $1499 or more - Coupon code: xxxxxxxxxx
[09:06] <carutsu> *good
[09:06] <carutsu> menisk__ nop i dont, and i dont plan to
[09:06] <menisk_> carutsu: It is good.
[09:06] <menisk_> carutsu: Why not?
[09:06] <Orange1> i find anything is good for linux ><
[09:06] <carutsu> Orange1: xD!
[09:07] <carutsu> menisk_ i dont plan to... have RSI issues
[09:07] <Orange1> AMD on lappy is not the way to go
[09:07] <Orange1> they lost the crown anyway
[09:07] <carutsu> orange1: whhy?] 
[09:07] <menisk_> carutsu: It has been proven the dvorak is better than qwerty for RSI.
[09:07] <Orange1> C2d is so much faster -- first thing i did was compare how fast between my desktop and lappy
[09:08] <menisk_> Orange1: The Turion is fine until you put it under load, then it eats your battery like I eat cake.
[09:08] <menisk_> C2D also costs alot more.
[09:08] <Orange1> desktop is Opteron 2.8ghz dual core  -- 32 seconds and lappy C2d 2.16ghz -- 24 seconds on pure cpu benchmark
[09:09] <Orange1> i can get u coupons for lappys on dell if u need
[09:09] <Orange1> $297 off Select Inspiron E1505 Notebooks!  - expiring
[09:09] <Orange1> move quick!
[09:10] <menisk_> Orange1: You can still buy them?
[09:10] <Orange1> menisk_: what u mean?
[09:10] <menisk_> Orange1: I wish I new, they were good, intergrated graphics. :D
[09:10] <menisk_> Orange1: The 1501 was supposed to replace the E1501
[09:10] <menisk_> E1505*
[09:10] <carutsu> Orange1, menisk_ i gotta go now
[09:11] <Orange1> carutsu: lata - i do my homework now - its due in 2 hours
[09:11] <carutsu> sorry, se ya all, and thank you for your advice
[09:11] <menisk_> carutsu: See ya
[09:11] <menisk_> I'm left all alone. :(
[09:11] <menisk_> :P
[09:11] <carutsu> xD
[09:11] <Orange1> www.netbookforums.com
[09:11] <menisk_> Orange1: Hoe old are you?
[09:11] <menisk_> How*
[09:11] <Orange1> u can find me a surge protector + battery combo
[09:12] <Orange1> 20
[09:12] <menisk_> H/W at 20?
[09:12] <menisk_> Uni?
[09:12] <Orange1> going to buy my ticket to carribean in a few minutes! 50 days of vacation! -- i need that surge protector
[09:12] <Orange1> yes uni
[09:12] <menisk_> Orange1: Can I come. :)
[09:12] <Orange1> 6 pages on how i 'feel' about 3 poems
[09:13] <menisk_> Orange1: Year 9 is a bit more relaxed than that. :P
[09:13] <firecrotch> Orange1:  Sounds like the first college I went to
[09:13] <Orange1> lol interesting how u say 'year 9'
[09:13] <menisk_> :P
[09:13] <menisk_> Why?
[09:14] <Orange1> firecrotch: i thought this bs was over - how is a comp sci major gonna use poems...
[09:14] <cpk1> Orange1: affair with your boss
[09:14] <menisk_> Orange1: WHat do you call it? Everyone here in AUS does.
[09:15] <Orange1> firecrotch: not gonna complain too much thou - theres hardly ANY girls in any of my major's classes ... like they dont know how to use a computer...
[09:15] <menisk_> LOL
[09:15] <menisk_> I gtg, be all.
[09:15] <Orange1> menisk_: lata
[09:16] <firecrotch> Orange1:  I made the mistake of going to a liberal arts college (major in Biology) and I only had 1 Bio class in the entire year, the rest was stupid shit like art and poetry and stuff
[09:16] <firecrotch> So I proceded to flunk out and now I'm going to a tech school :)
[09:16] <Orange1> firecrotch: im saving all the stupid classes like 'humanities' + 'electives' for final year
[09:17] <Orange1> cpk1: didnt know there was such a thing
[09:17] <pete__> how hard is it to learn ssh type stuff????
[09:17] <Orange1> pete__: it depends on the person
[09:17] <cpk1> yup, in fact here at my uni there are TWO liberal arts majors
[09:17] <Orange1> cpk1: what kind of job u aiming for?
[09:18] <cpk1> teaching
[09:18] <Orange1> teaching what
[09:19] <pete__> Orange1: any recomendations on where a beginner can get info>?
[09:20] <Orange1> pete__: sry - i have yet to begin on that myself.. need to learn to route my myself from school's limit'd connection to my home connection then to outside world.
[09:20] <cpk1> elementary school or english
[09:20] <Orange1> -my*
[09:20] <Orange1> !ssh
[09:20] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:20] <Orange1> there u go
[09:20] <pete__> haha i could have done that but ty anyway
[09:21] <Orange1> lol kk
[09:33] <danny500> Hey Guy's
[09:33] <danny500> been a while
[09:33] <danny500> Jucato, you here?
[09:34] <danny500> #ubuntu
[09:35] <sandro__> huh there is no more kruler in 6.1 ?
[09:37] <riccardo> hi all
[09:37] <riccardo> i really need help with kubuntu :(
[09:38] <riccardo> i'm using a modem\router ethernet
[09:38] <riccardo> and i don't understand why everytime i must edit the file resolve.conf and insert the correct dns about my provider
[09:38] <riccardo> evrytime also if i edit like a root
[09:39] <riccardo> it restore himself to 192.168.1.1 that is the gateway
[09:39] <riccardo> and if i don't change the dns address i can't connect to internet
[09:39] <riccardo> any suggestion? :(
[09:40] <riccardo> thanks for who can help me
[09:40] <riccardo> :(
[09:56] <riccardo> hi all please could you help me?
[09:56] <sandro__> ?
[09:57] <riccardo> hi, are you italian?
[09:57] <sandro__> im new to this but what you saying is: your /etc/resolv.conf gets modified ?
[09:58] <riccardo> yes everytime that i restart i must edit resolv.conf with the correct dns of my internet provider
[09:58] <riccardo> because it's restored always to de default address192.168.1.1
[09:58] <Tm_T> !staticdns
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about staticdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <Tm_T> hmm
[09:59] <Tm_T> !dns
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <Tm_T> agh
[09:59] <riccardo> :(
[09:59] <riccardo> the strange thing is that i edite like root everytime
[10:00] <riccardo> and everytime restore to 192.168.1.1
[10:00] <riccardo> :(
[10:00] <Tm_T> riccardo: well, your system is set to get dns using dhcp ;)
[10:00] <riccardo> yes maybe my router use dhcp
[10:01] <riccardo> but how to resolve this problem?
[10:02] <Tm_T> riccardo: well, basicly, do google with "Ubuntu static dns" or similar ;)
[10:02] <sandro__> im sorry im busy here all i can say its very weird cause ill get very suspicous if i find out my system rewriting itself
[10:02] <Tm_T> sandro__: well, if you set it to rewrite, that's the thing here, its should be rewritten in time to time ;)
[10:03] <riccardo> ok iwill try to find something
[10:03] <riccardo> i'm using kubuntu
[10:04] <riccardo> first of all thanks for your help
[10:04] <riccardo> ;)
[10:07] <Tm_T> riccardo: can't remember exactly, but it should be one simple edit in interfaces file, prolly adding dns server ip there or similar
[10:11] <riccardo> thanks i'm searching solutions with google
[10:12] <pete__> amarok blows. completely.
[10:13] <pete__> argh
[10:14] <eilker> kdm is not working, i wanna have a small script on my desktop to close pc. any help pls ?
[10:15] <eilker> sudo halt // but i dont know how to write in script...
[10:16] <angela_> why is kubuntu slow :(
[10:16] <angela_> kde is slow
[10:16] <angela_> it takes too much to load applications
[10:19] <angela_> anyone have the same experience? kubuntu 5.10/6.06 was faster for me
[10:20] <Tm_T> angela_: well, can't really say, do you have hard numbers you measured?
[10:20] <DarkED> hi, I'm using the livecd kubuntu disc to install kubuntu and I resized my windows partition but it went a lot faster than usual
[10:20] <DarkED> is this normal?
[10:21] <angela_> no, i didnt measure .. just the loadavg
[10:21] <angela_> and i dont have any resource hog processes running
[10:21] <Tm_T> angela_: well, unless there's something to look to, it's only feeling and nothing can be done just for it I afraid
[10:22] <angela_> hmm... thats why i use freebsd/fluxbox...
[10:22] <angela_> i hope 7.04 will be faster
[10:22] <DarkED> also ... in the graphical installer if I want to have a separate / and /home partition do i specify that where it says 'Label' ?
[10:23] <Tm_T> angela_: well, you haven't said/proved 6.10 is slower than others, this is what I mean, can't know what your "slow" is just by your saying
[10:23] <DeMolay> DarkED: label is only an ifo field
[10:23] <DeMolay> you must do that after defining your partitions
[10:24] <angela_> Tm_T: i said that applications take way too long to load.. and drawing the windows is slow too
[10:24] <DarkED> DeMolay: ahh ok, thanks
[10:24] <M`u`t`e> hello , i am a new user of Kubuntu , the media player Amarok doesnt plays the mp3's i have , plz help
[10:24] <Tm_T> angela_: yes, how you measured this?
[10:24] <angela_> Tm_T: and those operations were faster done in older kubuntus for me
[10:25] <Tm_T> let's see if that keeps backgound noise down (:
[10:25] <Tm_T> angela_: can't say what cause your lowness unless you can say something else than it seems to be slow
[10:25] <eilker> in kde channel there is flood, and i cant call ops
[10:26] <chijin> hmm is it possible to make a bootable dvd that would boot into DOS? i need to run a hdd diagnostic util that is dos based.. :/
[10:26] <Tm_T> eilker: sorry, can't help there ;)
[10:26] <eilker> :)
[10:26] <chijin> or do i need a windows in order to boot into DOS?
[10:27] <Tm_T> chijin: IIRC you can get freedos in one floppy etc
[10:28] <DarkED> okay, what should i put in for my NTFS partiton on the 'mount point' page?
[10:28] <DeMolay> DarkED: something like /media/win
[10:28] <sandro__> if it says "This package is part of the official KDE graphics module." how would i find it ? (im still looking for kruler)
[10:28] <DarkED> DeMolay: ahh, thank you
[10:28] <DeMolay> and, of course, don't tick format
[10:29] <Tm_T> sandro__: apt-cache search kruler
[10:29] <skittles> 9hr downlaod complete for edgy on cable
[10:29] <sandro__> Tm_T: thank you
[10:29] <skittles> dowload*
[10:29] <DeMolay> if you want to preserve your data in that partition
[10:29] <sandro__> Tm_T: results in nothing .. i mean i get my prompt back
[10:29] <DarkED> DeMolay: yeah, i actually had to untick it :) glad i caught that...
[10:29] <Tm_T> sandro__: hmm, packages.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <DarkED> man i love livecd's with GUI installers :)
[10:30] <DeMolay> they are very easy
[10:30] <Tm_T> I have never used GUI installer, weird
[10:30] <DeMolay> and sometimes, out of control
[10:30] <skittles> are a faster download with the GUI installer?
[10:31] <DarkED> i've always used the alternate CD (or the text-mode in the dapper days)
[10:31] <harmental> hi everybody....i remember some time ago....(in the dapper times..) kubuntu automatically made a update+upgrade at startup....suddenly, both of these features dissapeared.....Any ideas on how to set them up again?
[10:31] <DarkED> but this is the first time i've installed kubuntu (instead of normal ubuntu) so I figured I'd give the livecd a try
[10:32] <Tm_T> harmental: hmm, that sounds dangerous
[10:32] <skittles> is Kubuntu different from Ubuntu?
[10:32] <DarkED> harmental: upgrade has killed a few of my ubuntu installs...
[10:32] <harmental> Tm_T: why;....im forced to do that manually anyways...
[10:33] <DarkED> er wait, that was dist-upgrade
[10:33] <DarkED> my bad
[10:33] <harmental> i would like to be at least automatically warned when updated packages are available
[10:33] <DarkED> harmental: just do a sudo update and sudo upgrade once a month
[10:34] <DarkED> thats what i do, works okay
[10:34] <Kuwanger> I'm having a small problem installing kubuntu.  Specifically, I'm using the hd-media approach to installation, but setup fails to mount the iso it discovers.
[10:34] <skittles> i've asked 2 querstions, nobody seems to give an answer or dosen't  know the answer mmm
[10:34] <Kuwanger> If I try to mount the iso manually, I am told something along the lines of being unable to setup the loop device.
[10:34] <DarkED> skittles: it's going faster for me with the GUI installer, yes
[10:34] <cvk77> !info adept-updater | harmental
[10:34] <harmental> DarkED: call me maniac...But i like to have the very latest versions....there MUST be a way to do that....
[10:34] <skittles> tks darked
[10:34] <ubotu> harmental: adept-updater: system update tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1071 kB, installed size 2952 kB
[10:35] <DarkED> skittles: and i'm not sure what the big difference is between the ubuntu installer and the kubuntu installer, except that they install kde packages vs gnome packages :)
[10:35] <skittles> whats the difference between kde  and gnome packages?
[10:36] <DarkED> skittles: no prob... but yeah, it's pretty much hauling for me
[10:36] <DarkED> skittles: um gnome uses GTK packages, KDE uses Qt
[10:36] <DarkED> skittles: they just draw off different libraries
[10:36] <skittles> oic tks
[10:36] <DarkED> skittles: thats why when you run gnome and KDE apps at the same time it slows things down alot
[10:37] <DarkED> skittles: it's like running two desktop environments at once
[10:37] <skittles> took me 9hrs to download Edgy on cable slow downlaod just finished about 20mins ago
[10:37] <DarkED> skittles: ouch
[10:37] <skittles> oh cool!
[10:37] <DarkED> i downloaded kubuntu edgy on an EVDO card in an hour
[10:37] <skittles> yup, darked
[10:37] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know of a good kde program to use to edit .pdf files, as adobe acrobat professional (in windows) might? i'm specifically looking for something that has a typewriter-like tool, which can be used to fill in various form fields of a form .pdf and then save the whole thing with the data input as a new .pdf.
[10:37] <skittles> lucky you ! what's ur secert?
[10:38] <DarkED> skittles: no secret really, i just picked a server close to me and saved it :)
[10:38] <skittles> i hope that installing Fiesty Fawn when the update comes out don't take no 9 hrs to downlaod
[10:38] <DarkED> it's a 1.1mbit connection, i get about 140kb/s down speed
[10:38] <skittles> mmmm maybe that was my problem
[10:38] <DarkED> skittles: i think you just picked a slow or heavyload server
[10:39] <DarkED> cuz on a cable connection ... 45mins max for a CD iso
[10:39] <skittles> yea me too after what you told me darked
[10:39] <skittles> decided to down;laod form the site
[10:39] <DeMolay> skittles: sometimes, the closest server is not the fastest
[10:39] <skittles> really? mmm
[10:39] <DarkED> yeah that's true
[10:40] <DarkED> depends on how many are using it, etc
[10:40] <crackhead_25> --anyone? anyone know a good adobe acrobat replacement program?
[10:40] <Kuwanger> skittles: Lucky. :/
[10:40] <DarkED> a 1000mbit connection isnt so great if 200 people are downloading from it =/
[10:40] <cvk77> crackhead_25: probably not :)
[10:40] <skittles> how do you change ur pc name( i guess that what you call it) and the password?
[10:40] <crackhead_25> can adobe acro pro work on kubuntu?
[10:40] <crackhead_25> (without vmware.. etc..)
[10:40] <bumzo> hi pple
[10:41] <DarkED> skittles: not sure, i always use the same name and pass at install
[10:41] <DeMolay> crackhead_25: maybe wine...
[10:41] <skittles> dang i wanna change mine
[10:41] <bumzo> i havea .tar.gz file i want to install seated on my desktop ... how do i go abt it?
[10:41] <DeMolay> !hostname
[10:41] <DarkED> skittles: i know that in gnome there was a panel you could go to in admin that would let you change stuff like that
[10:41] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[10:41] <bumzo> ful? jucato?
[10:41] <bumzo> fuel
[10:41] <DarkED> i havent used KDE in years so i dont remember if it has one
[10:41] <cvk77> skittles: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[10:41] <skittles> not sure if i had gnome, it draPPER DRAKE
[10:41] <crackhead_25> cvk77: you know of any acrobtat-like program, besides kpdf and adobe's?
[10:42] <skittles> sry bout caps
[10:42] <bumzo> anyone ... please
[10:42] <DarkED> skittles: if it was kubuntu, you had KDE. if it was xubuntu, you had XFCE. if it was ubuntu, you had gnome.
[10:42] <skittles> this is going on my 3rd week having Linuz<Ubuntu>
[10:42] <DarkED> lol, you mean Linux? ;)
[10:42] <cvk77> crackhead_25: LaTeX and OpenOffice can export PDF
[10:42] <skittles> yea was ubuntu
[10:42] <skittles> yes
[10:43] <cvk77> crackhead_25: but both won't serve your needs
[10:43] <skittles> lol i see my mistake
[10:43] <bumzo> who knows how to install .tar.gz
[10:43] <DarkED> yeah, if it was ubuntu it was gnome
[10:43] <cvk77> bumzo: tar.gz is just an archive, about the same as .ZIP or .RAR on windows
[10:43] <DarkED> i'm amazed at how fast the kubuntu livecd is ... the ubuntu livecd is a slideshow on this system
[10:43] <DarkED> yay for KDE
[10:43] <skittles> i sent off for the Ubuntu cd
[10:44] <DarkED> thats why i always used the alternate cd's
[10:44] <cvk77> bumzo: so probably anything can be inside of it - sourcecode, an installer package, dirty images, etc.
[10:44] <Kuwanger> Shame I didn't copy down the exact wording mount gave me. :/
[10:44] <DarkED> Kuwanger: funny how that happens eh?
[10:45] <Kuwanger> DarkED: I wouldn't call it funny, exactly.
[10:45] <bumzo> well .. .it has openoffie 2.1.0. how do i ''unpack'' it? cvk77?
[10:45] <DarkED> Kuwanger: true... what were you having trouble with again?
[10:46] <skittles> ya need a sense of humor......Kuwanger
[10:46] <Kuwanger> skittles: I had a sense of humor..  Then my keyboard died.
[10:46] <skittles> oic sry
[10:46] <Kuwanger> DarkED: I'm going the hd-media route and iso-scan fails to mount the alternative iso.  Trying to do the mount manually and I get some error about being unable to setup loop.
[10:47] <skittles> have a lovely nite everyone niter's
[10:47] <DarkED> well, the install is done
[10:47] <DarkED> be back in a few minutes
[10:47] <Kuwanger> Okay..just confirmed that what I downloaded has the right md5 hash.
[10:47] <Kuwanger> So, at least htat wasn't a waste of 60hrs.
[10:47] <Kuwanger> err, that
[10:48] <cvk77> bumzo: if you don't really need 2.1.0 and 2.0.4 is enough for you, the better way to install it, would be to install it with adept, or type "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org" in an konsole
[10:49] <Kuwanger> Hmm...I wonder if it's a permissions issue.
[10:50] <cvk77> bumzo: but generally, you unpack tar.gz with "tar xzf <filename>"
[10:51] <crackhead_25> how do i find where something just installed? i just installed pdftk (may be the program i was looking for), through adept, and it completed, and i was looking in the klaunch menu and did not see it, although i see all of my other programs..
[10:51] <bumzo> have u used ''madriva'' cvk77?
[10:51] <cvk77> !tar.gz | bumzo
[10:51] <ubotu> bumzo: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:51] <bumzo> yes ... the open office in madreva is REALLY cool
[10:52] <bumzo> this one looks like office 97 lol
[10:53] <cvk77> bumzo: i'm pretty sure that it's the same version
[10:53] <Kuwanger> On an up note, I found someone in Nov 2006 with the same problem.
[10:53] <cvk77> bumzo: and i doubt that updating to 2.1 will change oo's looks
[10:53] <Kuwanger> On a down note, there doesn't seem to be a resolution. :/
[10:54] <darked> Well, that went well :)
[10:55] <crackhead_25> how do i find where something just installed? i just installed pdftk (may be the program i was looking for), through adept, and it completed, and i was looking in the klaunch menu and did not see it, although i see all of my other programs..
[10:56] <jermain> guys, im going to buy a new printer, are there several things i should keep in account?
[10:56] <jermain> for running them under linux that is
[10:57] <jermain> or does the printer get recognized just as easily?
[10:57] <jermain> !nl
[10:57] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[10:58] <cvk77> jermain: don't buy a windows-only printer :)
[10:58] <DarkED> and boy do i love the fact that it mounts my ntfs external HDD automatically with no issues
[10:58] <jermain> :)
[10:58] <mkquist_> not canon...lol
[10:58] <jermain> not cannon :) ill keep that in mind. Epson any good?
[10:59] <mkquist_> i just know that while i love my canon, so far not in linux
[10:59] <jermain> :o i'll keep that in mind haha
[10:59] <jermain> well im off, thanks for the advice guys!
[10:59] <cvk77> jermain: my experience shows that cheap printers of any brand are usually crap...
[11:00] <MobsterLobster> i need help with installing Kubuntu
[11:01] <jermain> !printer
[11:01] <antipop> how why are panels on top always 48 pixels ?
[11:01] <MobsterLobster> i just downloaded and burnt the ISO but when i reload it loads to CLI not live Gui
[11:01] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:01] <antipop> i want 2 panels, bottom and top, both 24 pixels
[11:02] <MobsterLobster> i really need help. its a MSI L720 laptop and the user is not happy with XP
[11:03] <Kuwanger> Hmm..  Far as I can tell, it's some sort of busybox bug involving devfs and /dev/loop/# vs /dev/loop#.
[11:03] <cvk77> antipop: did you resize the panel?
[11:03] <MobsterLobster> anybody got an idea?
[11:03] <cvk77> !patience | MobsterLobster
[11:03] <ubotu> MobsterLobster: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:04] <antipop> yup
[11:04] <antipop> if my bottom panel is 24 and i add another its on 48 pixels
[11:04] <neoncode> Hey, out of intrest. How big is the Kernel Source tree when uncompressed?
[11:05] <Lynoure> MobsterLobster: If you have some specific problem during install, it makes sense to tell so.
[11:05] <MobsterLobster> i am very sorry its just i have never had this problem before and have no idea whats wrong
[11:05] <antipop> if i right click the panels, -> options it affects only the first panel on bottom
[11:05] <Lynoure> MobsterLobster: do you get error messages of any kind?
[11:06] <MobsterLobster> not that i can remember i will run start x and see
[11:06] <Lynoure> MobsterLobster: check the logs, too.
[11:06] <Jucato> antipop: you need to restart Kicker (the panel) so that you can configure newly added panels (it's a bug). press Alt+F2 and enter this command: dcop kicker kicker restart
[11:06] <cvk77> !info linux-source-2.6.17 | neoncode
[11:06] <ubotu> neoncode: linux-source-2.6.17: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.17 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-11.35 (edgy), package size 44997 kB, installed size 45128 kB
[11:07] <MobsterLobster> fatal error no screens found is answer to startx
[11:07] <neoncode> Ahh right. thanks cvk77.
[11:07] <MobsterLobster> how would i check logs?
[11:08] <antipop> Jucato, thanks! i was playing around with this thing 30 mins -.-
[11:09] <MobsterLobster> lynoure i have no CLI exp so how would i check the logs?
[11:09] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: could you please paste the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:09] <Kuwanger> Guess I'll just have to work around it.. :/
[11:10] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: oh wait.. that would be hard without a browser ;)
[11:10] <Jucato> MobsterLobster: is this a very new installation of Kubuntu? or did you already install something before this happened? like NVIDIA/ATI drivers?
[11:11] <MobsterLobster> i have installed nothing this is the live cd
[11:11] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: just type "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and look for lines starting with "(EE)"
[11:12] <Jucato> MobsterLobster: oh you can't boot into the live cd?
[11:12] <antipop> Jucato, do you know how i get the k-menu button on the top pannel, im not able to drag and drop it like the clock
[11:12] <MobsterLobster> thats right live cd is giving CLI
[11:12] <Jucato> MobsterLobster: have you tried the "Boot into safe graphics mode" option?
[11:12] <Jucato> antipop: right-click, Add Applet to Panel, K Menu
[11:12] <cvk77> antipop: right-click, add mini-program, kmenu
[11:13] <cvk77> antipop: err.. yes.. applet, not mini-program. lost in translation here :)
[11:13] <antipop> thanks
[11:13] <MobsterLobster> cvk i am doing it now
[11:13] <Jucato> an applet is a mini-program though
[11:13] <Jucato> :)
[11:13] <cvk77> Jucato: it's just called "Mini Programm" (=mini program) in the german localization...
[11:13] <antipop> miniprogram! the other menu dont add entries like shutdown
[11:14] <Jucato> ?
[11:14] <antipop> nvm i got it
[11:15] <cvk77> Jucato: i wonder who came up with it, as "applet" isn't that uncommon in germany
[11:15] <Jucato> I wouldn't know...
[11:15] <MobsterLobster> is there a find function so i can find the errors its a huge file
[11:16] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: if you use "less" you can search with "/"
[11:16] <Jucato> cvk77: would "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" be easier?
[11:17] <antipop> cvk77, whats the tray called in kde ?
[11:17] <Jucato> system tray...
[11:17] <MobsterLobster> copy paste isnt possible because its a diff computer. cvk will jucatos command work?
[11:17] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: or, as jucato implied, you could simply print out all lines containing "EE" by typing his command
[11:18] <Jucato> antipop: you can only have one system tray at a time in KDE. if you want to put the system tray somewhere else, you need to remove the first one before you can add it somewhere
[11:18] <MobsterLobster> i will do that
[11:18] <antipop> i lost my tray at the moment, dont know how to get it back
[11:19] <antipop> is the tray a miniprogram too ?
[11:19] <Jucato> antipop: yesh
[11:19] <cvk77> antipop: applet, yes :)
[11:20] <cvk77> oh, btw:
[11:20] <cvk77> !de | antipop
[11:20] <ubotu> antipop: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:20] <cvk77> antipop: i think the tray is called "systemabschnitt" in german
[11:20] <MobsterLobster> our prob seems to be  no video BIOS mdes for chosen depth and screen(s) found, but none have useable configuration
[11:20] <MobsterLobster> *modes
[11:21] <antipop> cvk77, danke! didnt get any response in the german channel with that problem
[11:22] <MobsterLobster> cvk or jucato does that mean Kubuntu isnt finding my screen?
[11:24] <MobsterLobster> is this a problem laptop maybe? my grand father wanted linux and i said Kubuntu over suse
[11:25] <Jucato> wow...
[11:25] <MobsterLobster> that was 2 error mesages
[11:25] <Jucato> tried Googling about the error message?
[11:26] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: You could take a look at kanotix though, it uses the great hardware detection of knoppix
[11:27] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: and is therefor problably more suited for notebook use
[11:27] <MobsterLobster> well i googled the bit bios prob I810 and found out its my chipset
[11:28] <MobsterLobster> maybe i should give SuSE a try to see if it installs
[11:29] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: you should really check out kanotix (http://kanotix.com/changelang-eng.html) before. it's debian-based like ubuntu.
[11:29] <cvk77> but enough kanotix-worshipping now :)
[11:30] <MobsterLobster> if i use Kanotix can i change repos to Ubuntu to get Ubuntu system?
[11:30] <Smurphy[ACS] > MobserLobster: Ich have that CHipset too - and no issues on a Mac-Mini ... with KUbuntu 6.10
[11:31] <MobsterLobster> odd
[11:33] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: well, if you want an ubuntu system, i'd rather recommend using the text based installer...
[11:34] <MobsterLobster> would that answer my problem or would i be stuck with a CLI system?
[11:34] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: no, of course not
[11:34] <MobsterLobster> then how would i startX?
[11:35] <Smurphy[ACS] > !915resolution
[11:35] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[11:35] <Smurphy[ACS] > !915resolution >MobsterLobster
[11:35] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: if you use the text-based installer you have the same system as if you used the live cd
[11:36] <MobsterLobster> i will try then
[11:36] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: but i really doubt that your X will work out of the box then
[11:37] <MobsterLobster> hope i dont need a new disc
[11:37] <MobsterLobster> true
[11:37] <MobsterLobster> im trying safe graphics mode,
[11:37] <MobsterLobster> smurphy i will try that package thank you
[11:39] <mdtyke> Hey.. can someone help me set up CPU frequency stepping on my Kubuntu (laptop)
[11:42] <cvk77> mdtyke: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_enable_your_CPU.27s_Power_Saving.2FFrequency_Scaling_features
[11:46] <mdtyke> When I try to modprobe 'speedstep_centrino', it says it can't be found
[11:47] <mdtyke> Ajny ideas?
[11:47] <mdtyke> I cant see it in Adept either to load it
[11:48] <MobsterLobster> well i tryd the SuSE disk and it seems to be working so it looks like untill fiesty or kanotix this is a SuSE RPM box
[11:48] <aha> hi @ all
[11:49] <cvk77> MobsterLobster: my condolences :)
[11:50] <MobsterLobster> thank you. i love Kubuntu and i love the community sorry if i came on strong at first
[11:50] <aha> I switched to kubuntu 6.10 this w/e. Great distribution. But I experience problems with Eclipse (or PyDev). Eclipse doesn't want to close and even killing the eclipse didn't work. It keeps on running.
[11:51] <djdarkman> aha: install ksysgaurd
[11:51] <aha> djdarkman: I have already installed KDE System Guard. Actually I killed the eclipse process via Ksysguard
[11:52] <djdarkman> that should have done it
[11:53] <aha> so I thought,... really strange. the dialogs are still there and decorators reacting ("close", "move to desktop x..." etc.)
[11:53] <aha> and there is no eclipse process running any more
[11:54] <aha> at least not with "eclipse" in the name
[11:56] <djdarkman> if you press close on the windows ,doesn`t kwin ask if you want to kill it?
[11:58] <aha> there is the eclipse window, above of there is a "new project wizard window". the eclipse window doesn't ask me if I want to kill when clicking on close. the other window says that there is an active operation and thus I can't close the window. I think this is an eclipse message... and some weired bug, since the project wizard window doesn't close.
[11:59] <mdtyke> It seems its actually "Intel Mobile Voltage Positioning" that I need to enable via Linux.. any ideas?
[11:59] <aha> but shouldn't both windows should have disappeared as I killed the process "eclipse" anyway?
[12:00] <djdarkman> mdtyke: my idea is maybe recompiling the kernel....
[12:00] <mdtyke> well why/how do I do that?  I've only installed it
[12:01] <djdarkman> aha: maybe eclipse is just a sub process
[12:01] <mdtyke> and by the way, in my startup it's showing 2 kernels; how can I get rid of one
[12:01] <MobsterLobster> when is the release for feisty? is everything on track?
[12:01] <aha> well... sub-process of which process... i looked for "java", but could not find one. the process table shows "all processes"
[12:02] <djdarkman> mdtyke: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_enable_your_CPU.27s_Power_Saving.2FFrequency_Scaling_features
[12:02] <Jucato> mdtyke: you uninstall kernels like you install any other package. through apt-get or adept. however you might want to keep a backup working kernel in case the current one stops working
[12:02] <djdarkman> have you read this?
[12:02] <Jucato> MobsterLobster: so far so good
[12:02] <Jucato> !feisty | MobsterLobster
[12:02] <ubotu> MobsterLobster: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[12:03] <MobsterLobster> jucato so all we have is April, no date of yet?
[12:03] <djdarkman> MobsterLobster:  well it`s prety much in alpha I already reported a few bugs ,so if you need your PC for productivity I advise you not to install feisty
[12:03] <MobsterLobster> i have a box that has feisty as it was at herd1 at some1s house
[12:03] <mdtyke> djdarkman: no details on my CPU there
[12:04] <mdtyke> and the packages it mentions can't be found in an updated Adept
[12:04] <Jucato> MobsterLobster: look at the ReleaseSchedule page
[12:04] <mdtyke> jucato, how do I recompile the kernel though
[12:04] <djdarkman> sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino
[12:04] <mdtyke> says it can't be found
[12:04] <MobsterLobster> lol my feisty always crashed with 3d legacy drivers
[12:05] <Jucato> !kernel | mdtyke
[12:05] <ubotu> mdtyke: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:05] <djdarkman>  MobsterLobster ,it has a lot of other problems
[12:06] <MobsterLobster> im sure it does i just never tesed them
[12:06] <MobsterLobster> *tested
[12:06] <mdtyke> Should I have  linux 2.6.17.11 kernel installed
[12:07] <mdtyke> which should I keep?  I have .10 and .11
[12:07] <MobsterLobster> there any feisty users here?
[12:07] <djdarkman> I`m testing it now on my desktop PC ,just beacause I have my laptop to fall back to
[12:07] <mdtyke> well my CPU is always running at 100% frequency.  It's a Celeron-M, and on Windows when I checked the Computer properties thing, it would always be variable speeds.. especially when I was on battery
[12:07] <Jucato> MobsterLobster: me. you can find more in #ubuntu+1
[12:08] <mdtyke> in Linux, its always at 100% (1.70GHz), and my battery is draining so fast.. I think that's the problem
[12:08] <MobsterLobster> ok i will go join
[12:08] <djdarkman> mdtyke: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=cpufrequtils&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[12:08] <djdarkman> mdtyke: have you enabled the universe repository?
[12:09] <mdtyke> Yea
[12:09] <djdarkman> then I don`t know why you can`t find it
[12:09] <mdtyke> Should I remove the .10 kernel, since i assume I'm using .11?
[12:10] <djdarkman> no reason
[12:10] <djdarkman> type unama -a
[12:10] <djdarkman> mdtyke: it will ouput your currently running kerne
[12:10] <djdarkman> l
[12:10] <mdtyke> command not found
[12:10] <djdarkman> sorry
[12:10] <djdarkman> I meant
[12:10] <djdarkman> uname -a
[12:10] <mdtyke> oh uname, ok
[12:11] <mdtyke> Linux matt-vaio 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:11] <waylandbill> I know that webmin is not recommended for use any longer. Anyone know why?
[12:11] <mdtyke> so is it perfectly 100% safe for me to just remove .10 in Adept?
[12:11] <mdtyke> What version are you using?
[12:12] <djdarkman> mdtyke: I`m running feisty on this machine
[12:12] <mdtyke> ok
[12:12] <mdtyke> so I can remove it from Adept?
[12:12] <djdarkman> I have a laptop too with edgy
[12:12] <djdarkman> mdtyke: you can but it won`t do anything
[12:12] <djdarkman> it won`t help you
[12:13] <djdarkman> you may try to manually install the package
[12:13] <mdtyke> It's removing 4 packages.. linux-headers-xxx, linux-headers-xxx-generic, linux-image-xxx, linux-restricted-modules-xxx
[12:13] <mdtyke> Oh I know, but im just trying to free up space
[12:13] <mdtyke> Ill do an Adept update in a minute to see if it can find that package again.. hold on
[12:14] <djdarkman> you can try sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils
[12:14] <djdarkman> I don`t think I have it installed on my laptop ,but it doesn`t seem to drain fast
[12:15] <mdtyke> mine goes in about 40mins, as opposed to 2 hour
[12:15] <mdtyke> s
[12:16] <djdarkman> that depends on what you are doing
[12:16] <mdtyke> web browsing
[12:16] <djdarkman> for example if you are writing a dvd film ,using wireless ,listining to music at the same time ,it drains battery fast
[12:16] <djdarkman> ahhh ok
[12:17] <djdarkman> i`ll test this myself ,maybe it can save some power for me
[12:18] <matysek> hi there :P
[12:23] <mdtyke> ok.. did an update in Adept
[12:23] <mdtyke> lemme look for it now
[12:25] <mdtyke> ok.. so what am I looking for
[12:25] <mdtyke> you said cpufrequtils, but the other thing said to remove that
[12:25] <mdtyke> but ill try it anyway
[12:26] <djdarkman> don`t realy know ,mine laptop works fine
[12:27] <mdtyke> does your CPU freuqney change/
[12:27] <mdtyke> ill restart, brb
[12:27] <mdtyke> wanna check the old kernels gone from grub
[12:33] <Contrast83> Aside from sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-config enable, is there anything else I need to do to get the proprietary nVidia driver running on Feisty?
[12:40] <Contrast83> Are there any nVidia/Feisty users in here?
[12:40] <SmokeyD> yep
[12:41] <SmokeyD> what is a good kde program to transcode avi/divx/etc to video dvd?
[12:43] <Contrast83> SmokeyD, DeVeDe works well if you want something really simple. QDVDAuthor is more suitable if you're wanting to make menus, etc.
[12:43] <SmokeyD> ok, thanks Contrast83
[12:43] <SmokeyD> what was your question on nvidia/Feisty?
[12:44] <Contrast83> SmokeyD: No problem. How did you get the nVidia proprietary driver running? I keep running into problems.
[12:44] <SmokeyD> I didn't. I had problems too. Openoffice didn't want to start
[12:45] <SmokeyD> I switched to the nv driver
[12:45] <Contrast83> sudo apt-get install'd nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-config --enable'd, and X wouldn't start after that.
[12:45] <SmokeyD> not ideal but it works for now
[12:46] <Contrast83> Jucato, are you still in here?
[12:51] <Contrast83> genii: Thanks.
[12:52] <genii> :)
[12:53] <maan84> Hello, I've been searching the forums, I'm trying to do something I thought was easy, I have a mounted ntfs drive read only, and I've burned all I wanna save, now I just wanna format it to ext3, what is the easiest way to do this? Thank you :)
[12:53] <Contrast83> I love how Feisty uses the god-awful Vesa driver for my nVidia card out of the box. Looovely.
[12:53] <maan84> From inside Kubuntu?
[12:59] <genii> Weird, he asks a question then leaves
[01:01] <waylandbill> genii: I know. I was going to answer it and noticed he was gone when tab completion didn't find his nick
[01:02] <genii> waylandbill: Same here
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> hey.....my wireless is defaulting to an access point that isn't around anymore, I have to change it on every boot to be the one I want...
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> any body know where the setting for that is?
[01:08] <Jucato> Contrast83: did you install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)?
[01:09] <genii> He lives!
[01:09] <Contrast83> Jucato: Not yet, wasn't sure if that'd be the same on Feisty.
[01:10] <Jucato> Contrast83: the $(uname -r) part makes sure that installs the linux-restricted-modules version that matches your kernel version
[01:10] <Jucato> Contrast83: not installing it will make X *not* work even if you installed nvidia-glx
[01:10] <Jucato> genii: thanks :)
[01:11] <Contrast83> Jucato: Thanks. I'll try that.
[01:11] <waylandbill> genii always comes through with the caffeine. :-D
[01:11] <Jucato> yeah
[01:11] <genii> Jucato No problemmo :)
[01:12] <Contrast83> I haven't done anything regarding the nVidia driver yet, so just run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)" and nvidia-glx-config enable, then reboot?
[01:12] <genii> waylandbill: LOL way back one of my custom actions on telnet was a "coffee coffee coffee" dance
[01:12] <waylandbill> :)
[01:12] <Jucato> Contrast83: yes
[01:13] <xtavaresx> .
[01:14] <odinriko> is there a way to get kde to use the labels of external put on windows partitions?  I have a usb drive with 7 fat partitions, and it's rather annoying trying to remember which one is sda2
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> odinriko: yes, you have to modify your /etc/fstab to mount the drives as "/C" or "/D" or however
[01:16] <odinriko> ok, there is no way to use the labels on them already, as gnome does?
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> odinriko: say again? you mean rename the folders?
[01:17] <genii> odinriko: For some info on this issue see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/36254
[01:19] <odinriko> thank you genii, thats exactly what I was having problems with.
[01:20] <Contrast83> Is it normal that text for newly open windows is incredibly small after changing anything in the Colors section of System Settings?
[01:21] <waylandbill> Contrast83: I wouldn't think the appearance colors, but appearance fonts would.
[01:23] <jermain> !printer
[01:23] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:23] <Contrast83> Changing stuff in Appearance -> Fonts results in exactly the changes I tell it I want; changing stuff in Appearance -> Colors forces me to lot out and back in if I don't want to go blind from eye strain. :-\
[01:23] <genii> odinriko: If you have the package mtools installed you can manually change the label with the mlabel command.
[01:23] <genii> !mlabel
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mlabel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <genii> ubotu lies! LOL
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lies! lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <genii> bleh
[01:24] <Contrast83> lmao
[01:24] <jermain> GASP! rpm can be converted to deb?
[01:24] <genii> this is *NOT* recommended!!1
[01:24] <jermain> :o
[01:25] <jermain> enthousiasm decreases steadily
[01:25] <Jucato> !alien
[01:25] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:25] <Agiofws> hi
[01:25] <genii> Jucato Geez! Stop encouraging him! ROFL
[01:25] <frojnd> hello hre
[01:26] <frojnd> how can I check how many fps my accelerated nvida has?
[01:26] <jermain> ty genii and jucato
[01:26] <Jucato> "but it's quite dangerous" <---
[01:26] <Chousuke> frojnd: fps in what?
[01:26] <jermain> you may have saved a comp today
[01:26] <genii> Well, OK
[01:26] <Agiofws> i am tryingto enable my local  keyboard switch in xorg.conf  but anything i do in that file won't effectthe gui can anyone help ?
[01:26] <frojnd> Chouseke: gears?
[01:26] <Agiofws> does kubuntu have  issue with the local keaboard switch ?
[01:26] <Chousuke> well, run glxgears
[01:26] <Jucato> frojnd: glxgears -printfps
[01:26] <frojnd> Chouseke: beryl?
[01:27] <Chousuke> it's not a real benchmark though
[01:27] <waylandbill> jermain: yes. I'm in complete agreement. it's dangerous to say the least.
[01:27] <Chousuke> dunno about beryl
[01:28] <frojnd> 4134 frames in 5.1 seconds = 817.202 FPS
[01:28] <frojnd> 5358 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1059.997 FPS
[01:28] <frojnd> etc
[01:28] <frojnd> is this normal
[01:28] <Chousuke> what card?
[01:28] <jermain> Okay i'll refrain from it as much as possible then
[01:28] <Chousuke> seems slow
[01:28] <frojnd> gefroce fx 5500
[01:28] <frojnd> I only installed nvidia.glx
[01:28] <Chousuke> are you running beryl?
[01:28] <jermain> but if there is a how-to in the ubuntu wiki, i can assume its safe right?
[01:29] <frojnd> nvidia-glx
[01:29] <frojnd> yes, I am running beryl
[01:29] <Chousuke> well then I suppose that's okay
[01:29] <Jucato> jermain: that's not a "howto" in kubuntu. only describing that there's a tool available. and it's not alright
[01:29] <frojnd> nvidia-glx and than I changed "nv" into "nvidia"
[01:29] <Chousuke> 3d performance suffers under beryl as far as I know
[01:29] <frojnd> hm hm
[01:29] <jermain> well the thing is, there is a how-to in the wiki that describes how to install a driver for the printer im about to buy
[01:30] <frojnd> so nvida-glx if fine for accelerating nvida
[01:30] <jermain> and part of it does include the alien
[01:30] <miltos> hi ppl:-] 
[01:30] <Contrast83> Jucato, just rebooted into KDE. Now when I go into System Settings, it says I'm using the "nv" driver, even though "nvidia" is specified in xorg.conf.
[01:30] <jermain> but i guess i'd be better off choosing another printer then :)
[01:30] <waylandbill> jermain: being on a wiki is not a gaurantee of safeness nor that the process will even work.
[01:30] <Chousuke> frojnd: yes
[01:30] <jermain> thanks, I'll just go for the safe way and not do it at all
[01:31] <jermain> There are many other printers i'm sure ^^
[01:31] <Jucato> Contrast83: try "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart X
[01:31] <jermain> thanks again for your advice guys
[01:31] <waylandbill> jermain: I'd go with a printer with good native support. There are plenty to choose from.
[01:31] <frojnd> the only way application would work faster in beryl if I put faster nvida in PC ?
[01:31] <Chousuke> frojnd: I don't know, really
[01:31] <Chousuke> I've never used beryl
[01:32] <miltos> i've got HP 1410 hooked up to a "windows box" and i want to print from kubuntu...any help?
[01:32] <waylandbill> frojnd: anything 3d accelerated would benefit from a faster graphics accelerator card.
[01:32] <jermain> waylnadbill: thanks, i'm going back to the shop and write down several types and check if they have native support
[01:33] <frojnd> waylandbill: tnx
[01:33] <frojnd> :)
[01:33] <jermain> I'll be back later again ^^
[01:33] <frojnd> but when I swith cards, do I have to reinstll nvida-glx ?
[01:33] <waylandbill> miltos: if it's listed in the kde printer setup wizard, you should be able to set it up easily if it's samba shared.
[01:34] <waylandbill> frojnd: I wouldn't think so.
[01:34] <Contrast83> Jucato: Thanks anyway, but no dice. :-\
[01:34] <miltos> waylandbill, i've choosen samba printer inside the wizard, but nothing happens...
[01:35] <Jucato> Contrast83: what's happening (or not happening)
[01:36] <waylandbill> miltos: sometimes you need to have account and password and not guest credentials to access a samba printer. That could be one reason.
[01:36] <Contrast83> It's using the proprietary driver, but System Settings says it's still using "nv," and based on past experience, this means changing anything in System Settings -> Monitor & Display will revert xorg.conf to using "nv"
[01:37] <Jucato> Contrast83: can you check what's actually being used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? I don't trust System Settings -> Display that much
[01:37] <miltos> waylandbill, where do you set this passwrod??? during samba setup???
[01:37] <genii> miltos It is on the Windoze end, on the machine the printer is attached to
[01:38] <miltos> genii, hi
[01:38] <genii> miltos Hi
[01:39] <miltos> genii, but I didn't set any password on the 'windows box"....
[01:39] <waylandbill> miltos: then you use the account name and password you normally use to log on with.
[01:40] <Contrast83> Jucato: I already did-- It's using "nvidia,."
[01:40] <miltos> waylandbill, the account to login to windowz box???
[01:40] <Contrast83> Jucato: Now I just changed my resolution in System Settings, and it's gone back to using "nv".
[01:40] <genii> miltos It will default to the user you were logged in as. so if administrator shared the printer, you need administrator login/passwd. If some other user, then their username/passwd. You can also set when sharing it what rights users have to it
[01:40] <Jucato> Contrast83: I'd trust xorg.conf more.
[01:40] <Jucato> Contrast83: are you doing those things in System Settings in Administrator mode or as regular user?
[01:40] <waylandbill> miltos: any user on the windows box that has privs to access the printer.
[01:40] <Contrast83> Administrator.
[01:41] <miltos> genii, waylandbill thanks...i'be back in few minutes...
[01:41] <Jucato> Contrast83: hm... strange... but unless xorg.conf changes, I wouldn't mind it...
[01:41] <waylandbill> miltos: you put that name and password into the kde printing wizard's page when it asks for it.
[01:41] <Contrast83> Jucato: It did change. It's using "nv" now. :-\
[01:42] <Jucato> bah
[01:42] <Contrast83> (*#&%)#*%)(*@#%()!&@
[01:42] <genii> waylandbill: Some weirdness I found is if you have some poweruser with rights to the printer and then share a printer from that name, you get the inherited rights etc etc
[01:42] <Contrast83> And the login screen is f*ct.
[01:43] <waylandbill> genii: it's all wierd, that's why my linux desktop shares the printer. :-)
[01:44] <genii> waylandbill: Luckily most of the printers I need to deal with all plug directly into the LAN :)
[01:45] <Contrast83> Ok, I think I've gotten it to an acceptable state.
[01:45] <mastermind> hi to all ,iam new to kubuntu ,can anyone plz help me.
[01:46] <Contrast83> The login screen is still jacked up, but it is using the "nvidia" driver and the resolution I want. Just ran nvidia-xconfig again.
[01:46] <waylandbill> mastermind: maybe.
[01:46] <waylandbill> !ask
[01:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:47] <mastermind> wat are the basic things tat i should knew about this kubuntu
[01:47] <Contrast83> Jucato: Which, if any, 3rd party repositories are you using for Feisty?
[01:47] <Jucato> Contrast83: will it shock you if I said "none"?
[01:48] <Jucato> I only have 2 lines in my repo enabled for now
[01:48] <Contrast83> Playing it extra safe?
[01:48] <Jucato> no... because it's futile for now...
[01:49] <Contrast83> Ohh.
[01:49] <genii> mastermind The way you navigate or use it is something like Windoze. Don't power off by the power button. For playing wmv or microsoft proprietary things you need extra codecs.
[01:49] <Jucato> 1) feisty isn't even in beta, so it's kinda crazy to try adding to the possibility of breakage; 2) most packages are up to date anyway
[01:49] <rtsg>  /VERIFY AAAAAcIA0AYwdX4R4E8AAA-109951755
[01:49] <jermain|shopping> :( i can't find a suitable printer ,.. I guess i'll just get one and install it on my windows comp
[01:50] <Contrast83> jermain: HP has great Linux support.
[01:50] <genii> jermain|shopping: What kind of printing mainly will you be doing? text? colour?
[01:50] <jermain|shopping> text and colour
[01:50] <waylandbill> jermain|shopping: if you're looking for an inkjet, hp is one of the best supported
[01:50] <genii> Yes, HP has been very very good to me
[01:50] <jermain|shopping> hmm
[01:51] <jermain|shopping> to be honest i avoided hp because i heared they have cheap printers and pricy cartridges
[01:51] <waylandbill> their carts are getting better in price.
[01:51] <mastermind> genii ,how to download the codecs??
[01:51] <genii> jermain|shopping: If your budget goes up to $400 range get a tcp based laser
[01:51] <waylandbill> !restricted
[01:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:51] <Jucato> jermain|shopping: ironically, it's rumored that HP has the most Linux-compatible printers..
[01:51] <jermain|shopping> lol
[01:51] <genii> mastermind waylandbill just gave you the info for the extra codecs :)
[01:52] <jermain|shopping> anything to deprive big Bill of my money
[01:52] <Agiofws> anyone installed gnome on kubuntu ?
[01:52] <jermain|shopping> :)
[01:52] <jermain|shopping> I'm going back to the store again :)
[01:52] <genii> Agiofws: Yes, it's just   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <waylandbill> jermain|shopping: you live next door to the store? :-D
[01:53] <Contrast83> Well, I'm off to see what I can break in Feisty. >=) Thanks again for the help, Jucato.
[01:54] <Agiofws> ubuntu-desktop ?
[01:54] <Agiofws> how many MB genii ?
[01:54] <genii> Agiofws: Yes. Then from the login manager you select what desktop, KDE or Gnome. Im MB about 400
[01:54] <[pyro] > does anyone have any ideas on how i can get my pci-ide controler working on install? i dont need its raid function, i just want to install on the drives :(
[01:55] <genii> [pyro] : In BIOS try and find some settings which disable the raid component or else make it behave in a conventional IDE controller manner.
[01:56] <kristjan_> how do I disable framebuffer? do I need to bood with vga=normal?
[01:56] <[pyro] > genii: its a PCI-IDE card ive put into the machine. I have a total of 6 HDD's i want to connect and setup RAID 5 using software raid, but Kubuntu doesnt see the PCI-IDE card on install, so i only see 3 drives (the ones connected to my mb)
[01:58] <genii> [pyro] : Often there is also a BIOS setting for offboard controllers, to enable/disable
[01:58] <genii> [pyro] : Failing this you may need a kernel driver to load at boot with a switch to command line for the chipset the card contains
[01:59] <[pyro] > genii: yeah i checked out the config of the card, and it doesnt let you turn off / on the RAID function. I did some reasearch and it looks like the kernel module is available using the live CD (but software raid isnt).
[01:59] <[pyro] > genii: the chipset on the card is IT8212F
[02:00] <[pyro] > genii: can i load an external module when doing an install with the "alternate" cd ?
[02:01] <[pyro] > genii: i was looking for an easy way out, but the only way i think i may be able to do it is to build my own install CD with a custom kernel including the module i need. :(
[02:01] <genii> [pyro] : I'd say try to find the addition options for that module. The common generic options for any module would be things like irq=x addr=0xNNN   for instance. In Promise and other drivers there is often a switch to describe how the RAID is
[02:01] <MK007> Hello, I'm having a slight problem with loading into my install of kubuntu, it gets as fair as mounting root partion then it completly freezes... also i'v tryed using the ubuntu live cd and i hate simuler probelm.. any idea? thanks in advance :D
[02:02] <mastermind> genii , where to get the synaptics software
[02:02] <jermain|shopping> wth, i just noticed almost all hp printers work out of the box o.O
[02:02] <[pyro] > genii: yep gotcha, but the module doesnt seem to be included on any of the install media except for the Live CD, and that wont help me for setting up a RAID 5 :S
[02:02] <jermain|shopping> im gonna see if my choices do too
[02:02] <jermain|shopping> :)
[02:02] <genii> mastermind Synaptic is a standard program with Kubuntu. It is the builtin package manager
[02:03] <Jucato> genii: not in Kubuntu :)
[02:03] <mastermind> ok.then how to install it.
[02:03] <genii> Jucato Damn yer right, I forgot
[02:03] <mastermind> where do i find that
[02:03] <[pyro] > lol
[02:03] <genii> mastermind You can also use the other package manager, called Adept
[02:04] <mastermind> where can i find it...
[02:05] <genii> Can someone tell him what menus? I'm on a w2k box atm
[02:05] <[pyro] > K / System / Adept
[02:06] <[pyro] > mastermind: it should be the top one in the System menu
[02:06] <emonkey-m> or open it with katapult (Alt+Space)
[02:06] <mastermind> ya found it..
[02:07] <genii> [pyro]  I'm interested in what lsmod says for the driver it uses on the adapter when livecd sees it
[02:07] <enry> hi
[02:07] <genii> also what /dev does it become?
[02:07] <genii> eg: sd?
[02:08] <[pyro] > genii: ok, ill have to set it up and find out. I have since taken the card out in disgust thinking it would be easier to get a different one.
[02:08] <genii> [pyro]  btw I've had great luck with Promise controllers
[02:09] <[pyro] > genii: yeah? do they just work (tm) ?
[02:09] <genii> [pyro]  Yup
[02:10] <[pyro] > genii: im still of the oppinion that getting something that will just work without me having to stuff around with install cd's is the way to go. Something that just works and will continue to work on further releases
[02:10] <mastermind> pyro,how do i have to access or play ma dvd files
[02:10] <[pyro] > the cards only cost $20 or so
[02:10] <[pyro] > !restricted
[02:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <genii> [pyro]  For IDE/ATA drives I prefer the tx2 or tx4 cards.They also come in sata now and I think possible 1394
[02:12] <[pyro] > genni: tx2 or tx4, sweet ill check it out. Thanks for the heads up :)
[02:12] <[pyro] > they're supported right off the bat on an "alternate" install cd ?
[02:14] <genii> Yup
[02:15] <MK007> Hello, I'm having a slight problem with loading into my install of kubuntu, it gets as fair as mounting root partion then it completly freezes... also i'v tryed using the ubuntu live cd and i hate simuler probelm.. i think the problem is somthing to do with my nvida graphic card... please help
[02:16] <[pyro] > genii: thanks :) looks like ebay will have another listing for a "un-needed functioning PCI IDE/ATA controller card" very soon.
[02:16] <waylandbill> MK007: have you thought about trying the alternate install CD? it installs in text mode.
[02:16] <genii> [pyro] : I partition as raid with an extra that doesn't exist yet (for raid5) then format as ext3
[02:17] <mrbrdo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2319059 any idea anyone, much appreciated.. problem running WoW in Wine on x64
[02:17] <miltos> genii, are you still there?
[02:18] <hilder> ciao sono un niuovo utente kubuntu
[02:19] <mrbrdo> !language
[02:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:19] <[pyro] > genii: i have been setting up all partitions as raid and then setting one drive as hotswap during the install.
[02:19] <MK007> waylandbill: lol, you read my mind its in the dive as we speak.. but that doesnt seems not to work its judt frozen on uncompressing linux...
[02:19] <waylandbill> MK007: have you md5sum'd the media to be sure it burnt ok?
[02:19] <genii> [pyro] : That works :) I specify 1 drive more than what I have as an extra in the array # so I don't have one sitting idle
[02:19] <genii> (as a live spare)
[02:19] <MK007> waylandbill: yes, and iv installed off it before so i know it works.
[02:19] <genii> miltos Yes
[02:19] <[pyro] > genii: oh right i see, that way you can use the space, but if a drive shits itself, you need to replace it quick smart
[02:20] <genii> [pyro]  Yuppers
[02:20] <miltos> printing starts...and all of a sudden stops without printing anything...
[02:20] <miltos> genii, printing starts...and all of a sudden stops without printing anything...
[02:20] <[pyro] > netsplit :(
[02:21] <genii> miltos Perhaps specify the printer type as Generic PostScript (this will work on your HP) but leave everything else alone
[02:21] <[pyro] > genii: thanks for your help, better get some shut eye. I'll let you know how i go :)
[02:21] <genii> [pyro]  :)
[02:22] <miltos> genii, ok i will try then...
[02:23] <genii> miltos I will return to my keyboard in about 2 minutes
[02:23] <miltos> genii, ok
[02:24] <ubuntu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:24] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 130, in ?
[02:24] <ubuntu>     install(sys.argv[1] )
[02:24] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 55, in install
[02:24] <ubuntu>     ret = wizard.run()
[02:24] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 310, in run
[02:24] <ubuntu>     self.process_step()
[02:24] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 741, in process_step
[02:25] <ubuntu>     self.process_disk_selection()
[02:25] <Lynoure> ubuntu: take it to a pastebin, please
[02:25] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 790, in process_disk_selection
[02:25] <ubuntu>     choice = self.get_disk_choice()
[02:25] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 1455, in get_disk_choice
[02:25] <ubuntu>     return unicode(self.part_disk_buttongroup_texts[id] )
[02:25] <Jucato> !pastebin | ubuntu
[02:25] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:25] <ubuntu> KeyError: -1
[02:25] <ubuntu> ??
[02:25] <ubuntu> oks
[02:26] <genii> miltos Did you test with postscript driver?
[02:26] <waylandbill> genii: those are worth their weight in gold I imagine. :-
[02:26] <waylandbill> :-)
[02:26] <genii> waylandbill: They outsell the beer goggles 3to1 I hear ;)
[02:31] <ubuntu> I am with problems in the installation of the Kubuntu. This error happens!
[02:31] <fulld> Hello room
[02:31] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11026/
[02:31] <fulld> I just installed an updaed my system, now I would like to set my screen resolution.
[02:32] <fulld> But the maximum I can set is 1024x768. Also, my graphics card is correctly identified.
[02:32] <ubuntu> Somebody can help me?
[02:34] <leotavo> plz
[02:35] <leotavo> :/
[02:36] <waylandbill> fulld: do you have higher modes set in the xorg.conf?
[02:36] <fulld> waylandbill: do I set that using some kind of modeline generator?
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[02:38] <waylandbill> fulld: I've not use modelines. I just have modes in the Screen section of mine
[02:38] <waylandbill> fulld: but I don't see why you couldn't use one
[02:40] <fulld> waylandbill: nice, thanks
[02:41] <jermain|shopping> yay
[02:41] <jermain|shopping> i bought me a printer
[02:41] <jermain|shopping> :)
[02:42] <malik_> is it a goof idea to use ntfs3g?...........is it safe or it can crash ntfs partition?
[02:43] <jermain|shopping> it might be goof(y) but i dunno
[02:44] <BluesKaj> been using it for 6mos , no probs so far, malik_
[02:44] <genii> jermain|shopped: What did you eventually decide on?
[02:45] <malik_> oki kewlies
[02:45] <genii> ^^ jermain|shopping^  as well
[02:45] <malik_> is it a good idea to install kmyfirewall?
[02:45] <malik_> i hav router with NAT n firewall enable on it
[02:46] <waylandbill> malik_: as always, having good backups is essential. :-)
[02:46] <BluesKaj> naw, just slow things down ...how many FWs do you need ?
[02:47] <malik_> see thats thing i dont have backup n i have veryyyyyyyyy imp data on that ntfs partition
[02:47] <waylandbill> malik_: if the data is that important, make a backup of it
[02:47] <waylandbill> malik_: if for no other reason then hdd's will fail. ;-)
[02:48] <malik_> oki firewall is out then...........what abt if there is just a cable modem?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> you need some anti spy and antivirus and if you think so then use a FW on the windows partition
[02:48] <malik_> waylandbill: u r my nightmares come true:)
[02:49] <waylandbill> malik_: if it's a cable modem without a firewall, then a software one becomes a good idea.
[02:49] <waylandbill> malik_: sorry. it's just reality. When you least need failures is when they come.
[02:50] <malik_> that true
[02:50] <malik_> thats true*
[02:51] <miltos> genii, i tested the postscript drivers without success...and now i had an idea...hold on
[02:51] <waylandbill> malik_: as for ntfs-3g, when you do have proper backups, then I say go for it.
[02:52] <malik_> so if its just cable modem then software firewall should be in place on linux system.............otherwise on a router with NAT n firewall enabled on it, its not needed
[02:54] <waylandbill> malik_: yes. if it is a cable modem without a built in router. Some modems are integrated with those now.
[02:55] <malik_> kudos mate
[02:56] <elswood> will beryl or compiz be installed with feisty final release?
[02:56] <miltos> genii, unfortunately the same...it initializes and then it stops...
[02:57] <malik_> i read on one forum that its a good i dea to have three partitions on linux system.........boot, root, home and fourth with data........they say in that case if u upgrade ur custom settings wont get lost even if u do clean install of the system n software..........how much truth in that?
[02:58] <waylandbill> malik_: I use / and /home. I guess I should have a seperate data one, but it's served me okay.
[02:59] <waylandbill> malik_: I do recommend data and/or home seperate from system root.
[02:59] <Brazil4Linux>  How to hide Konqueror status bar?
[02:59] <waylandbill> malik_: /boot is normally not necessary. It was to overcome bios limitations that are uncommon at the present time.
[03:00] <genii> miltos Try changing the queue. I've heard a lot of issues with it lately.Maybe try a Raw queue
[03:00] <malik_> kudos
[03:00] <epimeth> speaking of beryl on feisty... do I have to add beryl-project to my sources?
[03:00] <miltos> genii, ok
[03:00] <epimeth> I found beryl-manager in the ubuntu repos, but thats it
[03:01] <Brazil4Linux> :(
[03:01] <epimeth> also, why is it that some people had kernel revision 12 yesterday but I only got it today?
[03:02] <malik_> so if we make boot and home and data 3 partitions n then for somereason i have to do clean install that will still keep my custom settings provided i dont format home in the process............n also even if i upgrade from edgy to herd home will keep my custom settings intact?
[03:02] <epimeth> I think I might be missing a source...
[03:02] <waylandbill> elswood: beryl isn't listed in the feature specs for feisty. I would highly doubt it anyway as beryl is in alpha.
[03:02] <epimeth> malik_: yes
[03:02] <epimeth> malik_: and boot can be tiny
[03:03] <elswood> Thanks, waylandbill!
[03:03] <goodseed> !info
[03:03] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[03:03] <epimeth> malik_: like, 50 megs is overkill, but with today's hard drives its hard to convince onself to make such a small partition :-)
[03:03] <malik_> :)......thanx guys
[03:04] <waylandbill> but /boot isn't particularly necessary. it can be stored on the / parition
[03:04] <epimeth> waylandbill & malik_: yea, I was about to say that
[03:04] <epimeth> malik_: my /boot is part of my /
[03:05] <epimeth> the reason it used to be a separate partition is cuz older bioses could only boot from the first few megs of the hard disk
[03:05] <epimeth> malik_: so a separate /boot partition was made so that it could be bootable
[03:05] <malik_> kewlies
[03:06] <epimeth> malik_: heck... I can't remember the last time I needed a separate /boot
[03:07] <malik_> i like the feature where if i have stuffed up settings of some software i delete the directory in home n it pops back after refresh n software has default settings restored
[03:07] <waylandbill> elswood: it's in drafting stage to be installed by default, but that doesn't mean that there is any timeframe for when it will be included.
[03:08] <miltos> genii, nothing happend with raw either
[03:08] <elswood> waylandbill: cool!  I'll wait...
[03:08] <genii> miltos Well, I'm outta immediate ideas then
[03:08] <miltos> genii, ok
[03:09] <epimeth> miltos: whats the problem?
[03:09] <malik_> is there any tool which can convert ntfs to ext3?
[03:09] <epimeth> waylandbill: soooo... what repos should I add if I want beryl on feisty?
[03:09] <malik_> without damaging the data on ntfs i mean?
[03:09] <Brazil4Linux>  How to hide Konqueror status bar?
[03:10] <epimeth> malik_: why do you want to do that?
[03:10] <epimeth> Brazil4Linux: I don't understand the question?
[03:10] <malik_> i want to get rid of the windows totally n i dont have any spare HDD to make backup or move data so that i can format ntfs to ext3
[03:11] <waylandbill> epimeth: there is an ubuntu beryl project repo. I'm sure that's the one you would want
[03:11] <waylandbill> elswood: that was meant for you
[03:11] <waylandbill> oops. no it wasn't. lol
[03:11] <epimeth> waylandbill: then why do I have beryl-manager in my current repos?
[03:11] <epimeth> waylandbill: lol
[03:12] <waylandbill> epimeth: that may be the only package that has been accepted for inclusion into that repo
[03:12] <epimeth> waylandbill: lol... but that doesn't make any sence!
[03:13] <mdtyke> Hey.. can anyone tell me how I can get KSmoothDock to work
[03:13] <waylandbill> epimeth: it does if it extends functionality of another older version or unsupported version.
[03:14] <Brazil4Linux> epimeth: hide the Konqueror status bar like I can do in Firefox
[03:14] <epimeth> waylandbill: so I have glxgears working and I tested with compiz... when a new window was opened it did a cool effect.  all I need now is to add the repos and install?  nothing else driver/conf wise?
[03:14] <waylandbill> epimeth: this is the one I have, but it's for edgy: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main
[03:14] <epimeth> Brazil4Linux: oohhhh.... why don't you just use firefox?  konqui isn't exactly web2.0 friendly
[03:15] <waylandbill> epimeth: they have feisty too though. :-)
[03:15] <Brazil4Linux> I like Konqueror
[03:15] <Brazil4Linux> Acid2 test rules
[03:15] <mdtyke> It seems as though it doesn't work on KDE 3.5.5, but surely by now there's a fixf for it.. I just cant find it
[03:15] <epimeth> I know... I just *really* don't want to add any sources that aren't ubuntu.com
[03:15] <epimeth> :-)
[03:15] <epimeth> waylandbill: ^
[03:15] <waylandbill> epimeth: then wait is my suggestion
[03:16] <waylandbill> that repo is pretty bleeding edge and the software is buggy anyway. Probably not a bad idea to wait a while.
[03:16] <epimeth> waylandbill: I have worked too hard and too long to get beryl working on this damn desktop.  I'm adding those repos even if they'll melt my system into a useless puddle of plastic and silicon
[03:16] <waylandbill> epimeth: HAHA!
[03:17] <epimeth> waylandbill: stupid geforce2 mx
[03:17] <mdtyke> !kde
[03:17] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[03:17] <mdtyke> Hmm, how do I find out which version of KDE I have
[03:18] <epimeth> waylandbill: so I don't need xgl or aiglx?  or did the nvidia drivers install them already?
[03:19] <waylandbill> iirc nvidia proprietary should have aiglx capability
[03:19] <Vincent_k> mdtyke: run kcontrol
[03:20] <mdtyke> Strange.. im on 3.5.5
[03:20] <mdtyke> Yet I'm on Edgy.. how do I upgrade?
[03:21] <Jucato> mdtyke: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[03:21] <epimeth> mdtyke: what repos are in your sources list?
[03:21] <mdtyke> edgy
[03:22] <epimeth> mdtyke: thats not a source, thats a distro :-)
[03:22] <bigdad1e> can someone help me with my ati video card? i installed it with instructions from the forum. but it wont go past the boot/loading screen on start up. i cant sign in or anything
[03:23] <mdtyke> Im adding it to the repo list, hold on
[03:23] <mdtyke> is it recommended to upgrade from 3.5.5 to 3.5.6?
[03:24] <mdtyke> ahh, a 100mb download lol
[03:25] <bigdad1e> no one can help me?
[03:25] <mdtyke> I'm just a newbie to Linux, sorry bigdad1e
[03:25] <epimeth> bigdad1e: not me, sorry :-)  stick around tho, someone will probably be able to help out
[03:25] <bigdad1e> i am too
[03:25] <bigdad1e> i dont even know how to send a pm
[03:25] <mdtyke> I still haven't even got my Kubuntu working right :(
[03:26] <bigdad1e> lol
[03:26] <mdtyke> I can't for the life of me figure out how to customize my keyboard layout, enable CPU throttling/frequency stepping
[03:26] <bigdad1e> kbuntu just get the seondary boot cd and it works like a charm i had the same problem
[03:27] <epimeth> waylandbill: do I need to install nvidia-glx?  I already have the driver working... also, I'm on a legacy card.
[03:27] <waylandbill> epimeth: oh. legacy card. don't know about legacy cards.
[03:28] <bigdad1e> mdtyke, or just download the kde. sudo aptitude install kde i believe
[03:28] <jermain> !hpijs
[03:28] <ubotu> hpijs: HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS driver (hpijs). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.9+1.6.9-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 337 kB, installed size 712 kB
[03:29] <epimeth> waylandbill: I'll try it without...
[03:29] <jermain> ><
[03:29] <Vincent_k> I'm having problem with autofs and nfs. I think it's because I run wireless and dosent connect until kde is up
[03:29] <Vincent_k> anyone have some tips on guides
[03:30] <Vincent_k> I have to do a sudo mount etc
[03:30] <bigdad1e> |ati bigdad1e
[03:30] <epimeth> mounting!  right!  my mounts are all gone!!!
[03:31] <mdtyke> its downloading (106mb).. slowly lol.. only 36%
[03:31] <epimeth> mount -a returns:
[03:31] <jermain> !printer
[03:31] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:31] <Vincent_k> !nfs
[03:31] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:31] <epimeth> Failed to access '/dev/hda1': No such file or directory
[03:31] <Vincent_k> !autofs
[03:31] <ubotu> autofs: kernel-based automounter for Linux. In component main, is extra. Version 4.1.4-11 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 468 kB
[03:31] <epimeth> for all /dev/hd##
[03:31] <epimeth> this *just* started happening... any ideas?
[03:33] <bigdad1e> can someone help me with my ati video card? i installed it with instructions from the forum. but it wont go past the boot/loading screen on start up. i cant sign in or anything
[03:34] <jermain> can anyone tell me how to do install my printer, allready have hpijs as i should, but from that point on i dunno what to do?
[03:34] <bigdad1e> what kind of printer?
[03:34] <jermain> hp
[03:34] <jermain> hp D7100 to be more precise
[03:34] <bigdad1e> 1 sec
[03:34] <jermain> k
[03:35] <epimeth> I'm gonna go out on a limb....
[03:35] <epimeth> !hp
[03:35] <jermain> :o
[03:35] <epimeth> !hp
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <jermain> :(
[03:35] <jermain> no more limbs for you
[03:36] <jermain> ^^
[03:36] <epimeth> I've got no legs!
[03:36] <jermain> thats what you get for going out on your limbs!
[03:36] <bigdad1e> all i did for my epson was the notes and add it that way it installs the drivers and everything
[03:36] <bigdad1e> kate*
[03:36] <bigdad1e> kate text editor
[03:37] <jermain> o.O i'm kinda slow,.. what did you edit in kate?
[03:37] <bigdad1e> go in kate
[03:37] <jermain> k
[03:37] <jermain> done
[03:37] <bigdad1e> ok go to file print
[03:37] <jermain> done
[03:37] <waylandbill> jermain: all I did was run the kde printer setup wizard for my hp printer and it took care of everything
[03:38] <bigdad1e> ok the little wond to the left of properties
[03:38] <bigdad1e> and that will take care of u
[03:38] <jermain> ooh
[03:38] <epimeth> 1 minute and counting... gooooo beryl!
[03:38] <jermain> setup wizz
[03:38] <bigdad1e> yes
[03:39] <jermain> ty :)
[03:39] <bigdad1e> np
[03:39] <bigdad1e> lol
[03:39] <epimeth> 21 kB/s??? damn... beryl-project is sloooowwww. I d/l @ 100kbps from ubuntu's de mirror
[03:39] <bigdad1e> now is there someone in here that can help me with an ati video card?
[03:40] <epimeth> what about me?  I demand a cookie for sacrificing my legs!
[03:40] <bigdad1e> ur legs took too long lol jp
[03:40] <jermain> hmm
[03:40] <epimeth> don't tempt me!!!!!
[03:41] <jermain> :p
[03:42] <mdtyke> I have to admit.. Kubuntu makes it so much easier to install hardware
[03:42] <mdtyke> Configuring it, however, is a different matter lol
[03:42] <bigdad1e> jermain, after u get it to test print, go back to file--> print--> system options-->filter and put ur printer on the right
[03:42] <genii> !botsnack
[03:42] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:42] <mdtyke> I normally get 100-150.. not that great either
[03:43] <mdtyke> when I'm at college, I download at several mb/sec.. its insanely fas
[03:43] <mdtyke> t*
[03:43] <jermain> Woot in my hand i am holding what must the sexiest test print!
[03:43] <bigdad1e> lol
[03:43] <calvarez> I get consistently 4-5 Mb/s at home and at school
[03:43] <epimeth> mdtyke: just wait till you have to pay for your own internet... we'll see how fast your downloads go, then :-p
[03:43] <bigdad1e> jermain, after u get it to test print, go back to file--> print--> system options-->filter and put ur printer on the right
[03:43] <calvarez> and I hear in the summer it goes up to 13 Mb/s
[03:44] <calvarez> :)
[03:44] <yacoob> Hi. Did anyone wondered about integrating gmail with kde?
[03:44] <yacoob> (as in, setting as default mailer?)
[03:44] <mdtyke> Well I'm on an 8mb line at home (supposedly), though it only connects at 2.5 and actually works at around 1-1.5 lol
[03:44] <mdtyke> It costs about E30 a month.. and uh
[03:44] <mdtyke> talking about money.. anyone know how I can configure my keyboard layout??
[03:44] <bigdad1e> i wanted to but never figured it out yet
[03:44] <epimeth> yacoob: what do you mean?  gmail is web based...
[03:44] <bigdad1e> yacoob*
[03:44] <epimeth> yacoob: you can just set Kontact to download from gmail's pop3
[03:45] <mdtyke> I use multiple currencies, and I had windows configured so ctrl+alt+3 was the GBP pound logo, ctrl+alt+4 was Euro, and the dollars were the normal one
[03:45] <jermain> bigdad1e: i wanna go to file but i need to do the general information 1st
[03:45] <mdtyke> Any ideas how I can do that in Kubuntu
[03:45] <jermain> what do i set for name? My account name?
[03:45] <yacoob> epimeth, I can, but I want to have firefox with gmail launched on every email related action :)
[03:45] <bigdad1e> in kate
[03:45] <bigdad1e> name it what ever u want
[03:45] <jermain> k
[03:45] <bigdad1e> no spaces
[03:46] <epimeth> yacoob: ummmm actually, that might be possible
[03:46] <jermain> done
[03:46] <bigdad1e> is it workings?
[03:46] <bigdad1e> working*
[03:46] <yacoob> epimeth, I think it is, the only thing I need to grasp is what is substituted on email client call
[03:46] <epimeth> yacoob: you can probably get ffox to integrate with mozilla's email client
[03:47] <acemo> in Kontact, can i create a group of contacts?
[03:47] <jermain> bigdad1e, it worked like a charm!
[03:47] <bigdad1e> i know i did it this morning
[03:48] <bigdad1e> jermain, all u have to do is what i said b4 so it will b ur primary printer
[03:49] <jermain> k
[03:50] <bigdad1e> does anyone know how to get an ATI vgc to work right?
[03:50] <jermain> done
[03:50] <bigdad1e> there u go
[03:50] <bigdad1e> your set
[03:50] <bigdad1e> you can test it out in word processor if u want to make sure its working
[03:52] <acemo> in Kontact, can i create a group of contacts?
[03:52] <bigdad1e> yes
[03:53] <acemo> bigdad1e: how? :)
[03:53] <bigdad1e> acemo, one second
[03:53] <sredna> how on earth do i get java to work in firefox on kubuntu?? I installed sun java 5, shouldn't that be good enough???
[03:54] <bigdad1e> acemo, what are you trying to do? phone numbers?
[03:54] <acemo> emails
[03:54] <bigdad1e> acemo, your emails?
[03:54] <mdtyke> ok Ive updated KDe.. brb, retsarting
[03:55] <acemo> in Filter rules, i can choose FROM -  is in Category
[03:55] <acemo> i was guessing those Categary were groups?
[03:55] <sredna> the install didn't even cause a executable 'java' ot be found in my PATH
[03:55] <sredna> ???
[03:56] <bigdad1e> acemo, ok kontact- contacts- address books- right click- add contact- fill out then select catagorie
[03:56] <bigdad1e> above address books sry
[03:57] <acemo> thanks bigdad1e :)
[03:57] <bigdad1e> np
[03:58] <bigdad1e> acemo, anytime i can help i will. anytime
[03:58] <acemo> u good with bluetooth headsets? :P
[03:58] <bigdad1e> acemo, for phones?
[03:58] <acemo> for laptop
[03:59] <acemo> got it working with phone and windows already
[03:59] <bigdad1e> acemo, do you have a bluetooth reciever in your laptop?
[03:59] <acemo> my laptop has bluetooth yes
[03:59] <bigdad1e> ok
[03:59] <bigdad1e> acemo, give me a min plz
[04:00] <acemo> sure
[04:01] <epimeth> I apologize ahead of time for my over-exhuberance
[04:01] <epimeth> YES
[04:01] <bigdad1e> acemo, do you have wine?
[04:01] <epimeth> SHE WORKS
[04:01] <acemo> i just re-installed this laptop, no wine atm
[04:01] <epimeth> but sooooo sloooowwwwww
[04:01] <epimeth> and 1024x768 just doesn't cut it :-p
[04:01] <bigdad1e> ok
[04:03] <epimeth> sooo... how do I zoom out and see my windows in 3-d ish?
[04:03] <bigdad1e> ok acemo, open konsole
[04:04] <epimeth> and why is my taskbar one long row instead of 2 shorter ones?
[04:04] <bigdad1e> acemo, tell me when you get the konsole open
[04:04] <acemo> its open
[04:05] <bigdad1e> ok put this in sudo apt-get install bluez-utils
[04:05] <acemo> its up to date
[04:05] <epimeth> waylandbill: you still here mate?
[04:05] <waylandbill> I'm still around
[04:05] <bigdad1e> ok then restart it with sudo /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart
[04:06] <acemo> sudo: /etc/init.d/bluez-utils: command not found
[04:06] <epimeth> waylandbill: how do I play with the cube?  it was ctrl+alt+shift a minute ago, but I changed the theme and its not anymore
[04:06] <bigdad1e> sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[04:06] <epimeth> waylandbill: and how do I zoom out and see the windows popped out of the cube?
[04:06] <acemo> getting a popup from the KDE Bluetooth Framework
[04:07] <bigdad1e> ok
[04:07] <waylandbill> epimeth: you'll have to play around with the beryl-manager settings dialog.
[04:07] <acemo> Failed to connect to the SDP Server.
[04:07] <bigdad1e> is it built in or usb?
[04:07] <epimeth> waylandbill: *cough* itkeepscrashing *cough*
[04:07] <acemo> build in
[04:07] <waylandbill> epimeth: not suprising. it's alpha for a reason. :-)
[04:08] <bigdad1e> !bluetooth >acemo
[04:08] <bigdad1e> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:08] <epimeth> waylandbill: if you say "alpha" one more time I swear I'm gonna do a very unfriendly /me command... probably involving a herring... or a tuna
[04:08] <waylandbill> epimeth: alpha. :-P
[04:09] <bigdad1e> acemo, go through that and tell me if it works for you.
[04:10] <acemo> bigdad1e: just a sec
[04:11] <bigdad1e> acemo: np
[04:13] <resident_> Greetings
[04:14] <epimeth> lol... I was using compiz???
[04:14] <epimeth> beryl must have crashed
[04:15] <acemo> bigdad1e: hcitool dev returns mac address of my bluetooth, so far so good
[04:15] <resident_> Guys, i still couldn't solve my problem. In some applications i cannot write symbols. (i have hungarian keyboard) I already changed to hungarian keyboard layout and reconfigured xorg but nothing changed... Firefox stopped working... I installed kde on my ubuntu yesterday and it messed up everything a little bit...
[04:16] <maniek1990> do czego suzy
[04:16] <maniek1990> pamietam
[04:16] <maniek1990> su
[04:16] <maniek1990> ale to z mandrake byo
[04:16] <acemo> bigdad1e: acemo@acemo:~$ sudo hidd --connect 00:09:DD:70:4A:8E
[04:16] <acemo> Can't get device information: Success
[04:16] <acemo> that dun looks good
[04:16] <bigdad1e> acemo: perfect
[04:19] <tehArtist> Can you run byrl on Kubuntu?
[04:19] <tehArtist> or is that an ubuntu (gnome) thing only?
[04:19] <epimeth> tehArtist: I literally *just* installed it
[04:19] <tehArtist> beryl*
[04:19] <acemo> bigdad1e: ima have to go home now, else i miss my train, ill ttyl
[04:19] <bigdad1e> ok
[04:19] <bigdad1e> have fun
[04:19] <tehArtist> epimeth, is it fairly simple and straight forward?
[04:20] <epimeth> tehArtist: that depends on your hardware
[04:20] <cyt> Can I use current wubi installer (herd4 release) to install Kubuntu, and then upgrade to herd5?
[04:20] <tehArtist> Intel Pent. D 820. Intel Grahic I think it's a 915G chipset. (integrated) 1 gig ram.
[04:21] <epimeth> tehArtist: I didn't say I know what harware causes trouble, mate :-)  I know my nvidia card was legacy and I had a lot of trouble with it
[04:21] <tehArtist> epimeth: I just wondered if it was as simple as an 'sudo apt-get install beryl
[04:22] <delmp> hi everybody
[04:22] <epimeth> tehArtist: no
[04:22] <epimeth> tehArtist: you first have to get direct rendering working
[04:22] <tehArtist> epimeth, did you follow the Ubuntu guide to get it done?
[04:22] <SoB> is there a restricted hardware manager like in gnome herd5 for kubuntu?
[04:22] <tehArtist> Or is there a Kubuntu guide floating around somewhere?
[04:22] <epimeth> tehArtist: once that works then it it's as simple as adding a repository and then apt-get install beryl :-)
[04:23] <tehArtist> epimeth: not sure about direct rendering in Kubuntu...
[04:23] <tehArtist> I'm spoiled by windows...install and go hehe..
[04:23] <epimeth> open a terminal and type in $glxinfo | grep 'direct'
[04:23] <SoB> I would think you'd be spoiled by Linux, having every app you want for free
[04:24] <tehArtist> epimeth: it just took me to a new line
[04:24] <tehArtist> SoB: I woudl be great if I could find a suitble Sutiod MX 2k4 replacement
[04:25] <epimeth> tehArtist: did you type in the $ sign?  you shouldn't have....
[04:25] <tehArtist> ah ehhe
[04:25] <epimeth> why is it that everyone I try to help types in the $???? :-p
[04:25] <bigdad1e> can someone help me with my ati vgc?
[04:25] <tehArtist> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[04:25] <tehArtist> direct rendering: Yes
[04:26] <epimeth> bigdad1e: have you tried ati's site?
[04:26] <epimeth> tehArtist: what happens when you $glxgears
[04:26] <epimeth> ?
[04:26] <bigdad1e> yes i did
[04:26] <epimeth> bigdad1e: didn't help?
[04:26] <SoB> epimeth: I've never seen people explain commands like that
[04:26] <tehArtist> epimeth: I get glx gears
[04:26] <bigdad1e> i got it to go to the kbuntu boot screen no further
[04:27] <epimeth> tehArtist: pastebin your $lspci
[04:28] <tehArtist> !pastebin | tehartist
[04:28] <epimeth> SoB: thats to differentiate between a user's terminal ($) and a root terminal (#)
[04:28] <epimeth> SoB: every book uses that convention... every terminal does, as well :-)
[04:28] <epimeth> SoB: could be you've been spoiled by Kubuntu automagic sudo
[04:29] <epimeth> :-)
[04:29] <tehArtist> epimeth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11042/
[04:30] <maan84> Hello, I installed Kubuntu with a partition ntfs and it was added as sda5 under media, now ive burned all i wanted to save and I wanna reformat it into ext3, how do I do this? Thank you
[04:30] <epimeth> tehArtist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=beryl&titlesearch=Titles
[04:31] <tehArtist> thanks epimeth..I will bookmark and read later..now I must go to work ='(
[04:32] <epimeth> tehArtist: and most importantly: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[04:32] <maan84> Been trying http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11227.0
[04:32] <bigdad1e> epimeth: he left
[04:32] <epimeth> bigdad1e: whups
[04:32] <bigdad1e> epimeth: lol
[04:32] <maan84> But it won't work, only show up as unknown and sda5 is an unaccesible folder
[04:33] <sredna> why doesn't kubuntu support java in firefox?
[04:33] <sredna> i installed java, but it doesn't work automatically, and i can't find the file it needs
[04:35] <epimeth> maan84: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DrivesAndPartitions?highlight=%28partition%29
[04:35] <blue_> sredna: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_v6.0_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[04:35] <maan84> Thank you, I'll check it out.
[04:39] <epimeth> super-key?  wtf is a super-key?????
[04:40] <Jucato> sometimes the Win key
[04:41] <sredna> anyone here running kubuntu on a 64bit system?
[04:41] <sredna> and who have java working in firefox?
[04:42] <epimeth> Jucato: cheers... it was written at the bottom... but it doesn't do anything?
[04:42] <epimeth> jucato: super-key + mouse-wheel is supposed to zoom in/out
[04:42] <epimeth> ohhh.... right superkey
[04:43] <epimeth> Jucato: do you know how to see the beryl cube with all the windows popped out in 3d?
[04:43] <Jucato> epimeth: sorry, no.
[04:43] <epimeth> Jucato: cheers anyway
[04:43] <Jucato> epimeth: tried asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects ?
[04:44] <epimeth> good point
[04:45] <blue_> epimeth:  ctrl + alt
[04:46] <epimeth> blue_: noooo... thats just the cube... I wanna see the windows popped out a bit
[04:46] <blue_> popped out?
[04:47] <epimeth> yea... you go to any beryl demo on youtube you always see a view of the cube, but insetead of the windows being embedded on to the face of the cube they hover a bit off of it
[04:47] <sredna> kubuntu is broken wrt the java install on 64bit systems
[04:47] <sredna> :-(
[04:47] <kalkran> epimeth: whats wrong with that? :P
[04:47] <borg> hi wanted to know how to activate the root user
[04:47] <blue_> epimeth: that sounds cool, i never seen that
[04:48] <kalkran> blue_: With beryl, just activate the "3d windows"
[04:48] <waylandbill> borg, give it a passwd
[04:48] <epimeth> sredna: I'm sure thats a temporary thing... that is probably one of their top priorities... give it a little while
[04:48] <epimeth> blue_: check out beryl in youtube :-)
[04:48] <blue_> il have to do it later, im in windows now, workin (visual studio)
[04:48] <epimeth> kalkran: nothing... I wanna know how to get to that view :-)
[04:48] <kalkran> epimeth: You using beryl then?
[04:49] <epimeth> blue_: windows doesn't have youtube? :-p  and doesn't vizstudio work in wine?
[04:49] <blue_> not worth the effort tbh mate
[04:49] <epimeth> kalkran: as of exactly 15 minutes ago ^.^
[04:49] <epimeth> kalkran: after a ~month of driver hell
[04:49] <kalkran> epimeth: Go to the beryl-manager screen :P Visual effects then tick the 3d effect
[04:49] <blue_> and i dont wanna try to get some work done.....
[04:49] <borg> how can i activate the root user?
[04:49] <kalkran> epimeth: On Kubuntu? :o
[04:50] <waylandbill> borg: give the root user a password with 'sudo passwd'
[04:50] <waylandbill> !root
[04:50] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:50] <epimeth> kalkran: *cough* itkeepscrashing *cough*
[04:50] <sredna> epimeth: it brokenness
[04:51] <ekimus> hello, I just found scribes (http://scribes.sf.net) which looks quite nice and seems to rebuild textmate but I'd like to use a qt program.  anyone has a link to a qt clone of that?
[04:51] <blue_> is it possible to install windows in wine?
[04:51] <epimeth> kalkran: no, on redhat.  I just like to lurk in the #kubuntu channels
[04:51] <kalkran> epimeth: I have the same issues, :P What kind of video card are you using?
[04:51] <kalkran> epimeth: Hehe, sorry for asking the obvious xD
[04:51] <epimeth> waylandbill: you don't have to
[04:51] <epimeth> waylandbill: sudo -i
[04:52] <epimeth> waylandbill: it is the same thing as $su -
[04:52] <blue_> epimeth: what does sudo -i do?
[04:52] <epimeth> borg: sudo -i
[04:52] <waylandbill> epimeth: the question was to enable the root account, not become root.
[04:52] <epimeth> waylandbill & borg: why do you want to enable root?
[04:53] <epimeth> waylandbill: I did, but after the fact realized that it was.... pointless
[04:53] <waylandbill> epimeth: I don't want to. That's why I referred him to !root
[04:54] <sredna> how can i force the #W&&&&&&/5 to install  a 32bit package on my 64bit system?
[04:54] <epimeth> kalkran: nvidia geforce2 mx 400
[04:54] <JuJuBee> I have been having trouble booting Feisty (3-12-07 build) on a new Intel DG965wh mobo.  It seems that the problem has to do with booting from IDE cdrom.  Anybody know if recent builds have addressed this issue?
[04:54] <tuxligo-DBFans> hi!
[04:54] <epimeth> blue_: wine allows you to install native windows apps in linux... I think I've seen visual studio working on it before
[04:55] <epimeth> tuxligo-DBFans: hi!
[04:55] <sredna> dpkg --force-architecture -i <package> >:p
[04:55] <blue_> epimeth: the problem with wine is you have to run a program, what if you just want to run elplorer to organize files or the like?
[04:56] <tuxligo-DBFans> epimeth: you from usa?
[04:56] <waylandbill> epimeth: i know visual studio runs in wine, but I've never gotten the vs6 cd's setup program not to crash in wine. :-D
[04:56] <blue_> i mite try it later
[04:56] <epimeth> blue_: whats wrong with konqui? :-)
[04:57] <tuxligo-DBFans> epimeth: for use app of window en linux use wine!
[04:57] <blue_> epimeth: i hate it :P
[04:57] <tuxligo-DBFans> in
[04:57] <epimeth> tuxligo-DBFans: originally, no... grew up in Jersey tho, now I'm back in Israel
[04:57] <tuxligo-DBFans> aaaa
[04:57] <tuxligo-DBFans> ok
[04:57] <epimeth> blue_: that makes 2 of us
[04:57] <epimeth> waylandbill: sucks... I'm about to try and install the original C&C using wine :-)
[04:58] <blue_> just on that subject is there any good filemanagers for kubuntu thats not konqureoer?
[04:58] <epimeth> waylandbill: I bought the "First Century" DVD set not too long ago
[04:58] <sampan> blue, there are other file managers -- there's no need to use windows explorer to manage your files on linux :X  try krusader or dolphin ?
[04:58] <blue_> ty on it now :P
[04:59] <blue_> installin dolphin
[05:00] <blue_> dolphin rocks :P can i uninstall konqueor now?
[05:00] <epimeth> !dolphin
[05:00] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[05:00] <epimeth> hmmmm
[05:00] <epimeth> any screencaps?
[05:01] <blue_> screencaps?
[05:01] <blue_> sorry im dum today
[05:01] <yacoob> hm
[05:01] <blue_> can i send u one on this?
[05:01] <yacoob> I made myself a script, in /usr/local/bin. How can I assign an icon to it?
[05:02] <sampan> epimeth  it's pretty minimalistic/simplistic ... but i think it's gonna be the dedicated fm for kde4 (konq will still do fm as usual but dolphin will be the official app for it i guess)
[05:03] <epimeth> blue_: screencaps = screenshots
[05:03] <epimeth> blue_: caps = captures
[05:03] <sampan> http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Dolphin-File-Manager-Screenshot-12943.html
[05:03] <blue_> epimeth: yeah i realised after i asked /doh
[05:03] <blue_> so if i have dolphin do i still need konqueor?
[05:04] <sampan> blue_  you don't want to uninstall konq (just don't use it for file managing if you don't like it)
[05:04] <epimeth> cute... probably way faster than konq?
[05:04] <epimeth> blue_: you shouldn't uninstall konqueror... you'll want it as a fallback for "unknown file types"
[05:05] <blue_> cool
[05:05] <blue_> il keep it then, but not use it, and yeah dolphin seems faster than konq
[05:06] <sampan> konq has LOTS of uses (cd ripper, pdf viewer, ftp/sftp client)
[05:07] <epimeth> god I love apt-get...
[05:08] <blue_> lol me too
[05:08] <epimeth> anyone know how to set up locales properly
[05:08] <epimeth> !locale
[05:08] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[05:09] <mdtyke> I do wish Google Talk would work on Linux =(
[05:09] <epimeth> mdtyke: it does
[05:10] <mdtyke> it does? Since when
[05:10] <epimeth> mdtyke: at least 2 months :-)
[05:10] <mdtyke> Oh.. I didnt see the download option on their site
[05:10] <epimeth> mdtyke: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=57557&topic=1415
[05:10] <epimeth> mdtyke: make sure kopete is installed
[05:11] <mdtyke> Thats not Google Talk then is it
[05:11] <mdtyke> That's Kopete, connecting to Google Talk.. I wanted Google Talk :P
[05:11] <mdtyke> I liked how it popped up when I got an email etc
[05:11] <epimeth> mdtyke: whats the difference?
[05:11] <mdtyke> One is Google Talk, one is Kopete
[05:11] <mdtyke> I can't stand Kopete
[05:11] <epimeth> mdtyke: don't tell me you're one of those that actually *like* 5 extraneous icons in their taskbar?
[05:12] <mdtyke> I like what I use on it
[05:12] <sredna> no java applet support in 64bit kubuntu?
[05:12] <mdtyke> and I like Gmail
[05:12] <mdtyke> And can anyone tell me how I can change my defalt power manager from that guidance power thing to another one
[05:13] <epimeth> mdtyke: nope, sorry
[05:14] <mdtyke> well now I can stop guidance power from opening up
[05:14] <mdtyke> Im using the KPowerSave because it allows me to see my CPU frequency
[05:15] <enry> goodbye!
[05:19] <angasule> !feisty
[05:19] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:20] <mdtyke> Hmm.. would anyone know why I cant find the speedstep-centrino package in my list?
[05:22] <leighton> how do i get my wireless connection to start up automatically on startup ?
[05:23] <mdtyke> I use KNetworkManager, leighton.. it seems to do the trick for me
[05:24] <leighton> knetworkmanager I have a search . thanks
[05:27] <ubuntu> hola
[05:28] <tuxligo-DBFans> ubuntu, hablas espaol?
[05:28] <ubuntu> si
[05:28] <Tm_T> !es
[05:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:28] <tuxligo-DBFans> y a que se debe ese nombre tan creativo?
[05:28] <tuxligo-DBFans> XD
[05:28] <ubuntu> ok
[05:28] <Kevlar> HOW can I tell which version of Kubuntu I have?
[05:29] <Tm_T> Kevlar: cat /etc/issue
[05:29] <Kevlar> I have update and upgraded now Im not sure which one I have
[05:29] <tuxligo-DBFans> ubuntu, que onda?, administras o que?
[05:29] <Kevlar> 6.1
[05:29] <Tm_T> tuxligo-DBFans: ubuntu; speak english or go to -es channels thank you
[05:29] <Kevlar> how do I update to fiesty?
[05:30] <Tm_T> Kevlar: IMO if you need to ask, don't try
[05:30] <Kevlar> hablo espanol o muerto
[05:30] <Tm_T> Kevlar: it's not ready, still beta
[05:30] <tuxligo-DBFans> Tm_T: mmmmmmmmmmm, i speak spanish and basic english
[05:30] <Kevlar> jaja
[05:30] <Kevlar> I dont care
[05:30] <tuxligo-DBFans> and i am user of kubuntu GNU
[05:30] <Tm_T> tuxligo-DBFans: well, this is for english conversation
[05:30] <kraut> where do i deactivate my itouch-keys in kde?
[05:30] <Kevlar> If its a beta doesnt bother me
[05:30] <tuxligo-DBFans> aaaaaaaaaa, ok
[05:30] <Tm_T> oh well...
[05:31] <Kevlar> Can I do it with Synaptic or Adept?
[05:31] <Tm_T> tuxligo-DBFans: imagine ~50 different languages talked here ;)
[05:31] <Jucato> Kevlar: please test edgy->feisty upgrade https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade |
[05:31] <tuxligo-DBFans> :)
[05:31] <Tm_T> Jucato: ah, nice kid
[05:31] <tuxligo-DBFans> thank you Tm_t
[05:31] <Kevlar> yeah you know I did that, I even upgraded my repository
[05:31] <Kevlar> but I still dont know the next step
[05:31] <Kevlar> which package do I install?
[05:31] <mdtyke> Is there any advantage of upgrading to Feisty?
[05:32] <mission> hey
[05:32] <Jucato> Kevlar: that wiki page has the instructions on using the dist-upgrade tool to upgrade to feisty
[05:32] <Kevlar> it says to put a repostory in your package manager but I dont know which package to pic aftetr that
[05:33] <Jucato> it give you 2 choices, depending on which KDE version on edgy you have
[05:34] <mdtyke> Hey.. Im trying to install KPowersave, and it says I have dependancy problems.. I need a newer version of HAL, libc6, libdbus-1-3, libgcc1 etc.. but I cant find them in the repo
[05:34] <mdtyke> What way do I go about finding these, or do I need to upgrade to Feisty?
[05:36] <eean> mdtyke: you don't want to upgrade libc randomly. KPowersave really needs Feisty
[05:36] <eean> (or well, the newest version does)
[05:36] <Kevlar> OKay well I did that i even chose UPGRADE but it stil says I have 6.10
[05:36] <Kevlar> can that be right?
[05:37] <Kevlar> when I did cat /etc/issue it said 6.10
[05:37] <eean> Kevlar: its easier to use upgrade-manager -d
[05:37] <Jucato> eean: that isn't installed on Kubuntu
[05:38] <eean> oh wait
[05:38] <eean> there's a new Dist Upgrade tool :)
[05:38] <eean> Jucato: yea I know, I installed it for my upgrade to feisty
[05:38] <eean> I don't think this dist upgrade thing existed
[05:38] <Kevlar> new tool???/
[05:38] <eean> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[05:39] <eean> its in the topic
[05:41] <yacoob> are there any kde-aware helpers for ssh-agent and gpg-agent?
[05:42] <jermain> !skim
[05:42] <ubotu> skim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1216 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[05:43] <Kevlar> what does common input method  platform mean?
[05:43] <jermain> i have no idea what soever
[05:44] <jermain> i saw it there and was wondering what it was for
[05:44] <Kevlar> gibberish
[05:44] <wouterh> yacoob: i use pinentry-qt for gpg-agent
[05:44] <jermain> now skim crashed
[05:44] <jermain> because i closed it ><
[05:44] <yacoob> wouterh, and where do you launch the agent from?
[05:44] <Kevlar> any particular repository you guys recommend I have?
[05:45] <jermain> !backup
[05:45] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:47] <bur[n] er> hola peoples... I have a minor KDE gripe that I'm hoping someone can clear up for me... is it true that there is no file manager launcher in the kde menu?  I've looked, but haven't found it
[05:47] <wouterh> yacoob: from ~/.login, but I guess it can also be launched from .kde/Autostart
[05:47] <bur[n] er> I've edited the menu, added konqueror ~/ to the menu and bound my hotkey of ctrl+alt+e to it, but I it'd be nice if it was there for newbies
[05:51] <jhutchins> bur[n] er: Mine's under Internet/Web Browsers.
[05:51] <Kevlar> root@Laptop:~# gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:51] <Kevlar> (gksu:5149): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:51] <Kevlar> ????
[05:52] <Kevlar> why is it saying that?
[05:52] <jhutchins> Kevlar: You're running as root.
[05:53] <pollyo> Hello
[05:53] <Kevlar> ahhh
[05:53] <jhutchins> !sudo | Kevlar
[05:53] <ubotu> Kevlar: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:54] <pollyo> I have both windows and linux installed on this machine.  Does anyone know how to transfer the font collection from my windows partition to my linux partion?  In addition can I use the .fon fonts as well?
[05:54] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: try gksudo instead of gksu?
[05:54] <Kevlar> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:54] <bur[n] er> or no sudo's at all since you're root
[05:54] <Kevlar> same
[05:54] <Kevlar> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:55] <bur[n] er> ok ok... did you login to X as root?
[05:55] <Kevlar> and some other stuff
[05:55] <Kevlar> yes I have 2 terminals open
[05:55] <Kevlar> one root one regular
[05:55] <Kevlar> I tried it in both
[05:55] <bur[n] er> i think we should start this over a bit
[05:55] <bur[n] er> just logout of X
[05:55] <bur[n] er> then back in as a user
[05:56] <bur[n] er> then run "gksudo update-manager -c"
[05:56] <bur[n] er> or "kdesudo update-manager -c"
[05:56] <bur[n] er> sorry... kdesu
[05:57] <Kevlar> okay
[05:58] <Kevlar> invalid option c
[06:00] <Kevlar> according to this website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[06:00] <Kevlar> that command is supposed to check for upgrades
[06:00] <pollyo> Anyone know if .fon fonts can be used?
[06:00] <yann> hello
[06:03] <PhinnFort> can i downgrade from feisty to edgy to test dist-upgrading?;)
[06:03] <bur[n] er> nope
[06:03] <bur[n] er> not easily anyway
[06:03] <PhinnFort> too bad, i should've waited with upgrading...
[06:03] <bur[n] er> nah... it's great ;)
[06:03] <bur[n] er> i like feisty
[06:04] <PhinnFort> me too, but i would love to see that dist-upgrade tool to get accepted;)
[06:04] <bur[n] er> ?
[06:04] <PhinnFort> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[06:05] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: you using KDE though?
[06:05] <PhinnFort> who doesn't, these days
[06:06] <bXi> anybody here ever played with a cash drawer (in linux of course)
[06:07] <bur[n] er> PhinnFort: she/he was asking about update-manager  -c, and your link might be what works for him as a kubuntu user ;)
[06:07] <PhinnFort> aha;)
[06:07] <PhinnFort> "my" link was in the topic, btw;)
[06:07] <yacoob> Sigh.
[06:08] <yacoob> Anyone knows whether konsole supports titeInhibit option? :/
[06:08] <PhinnFort> tithe?
[06:08] <PhinnFort> how do i get some debug output out of apt-get and friends?
[06:09] <PhinnFort> i have a configure script failing horribly
[06:09] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: where'd you get the deb?
[06:09] <Kevlar> I use this command "apt-get dist-upgrade" but
[06:09] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: it's the console-setup package
[06:09] <PhinnFort> !console-setup
[06:09] <yacoob> PhinnFort, it's from terminfo's ti/te capabilities
[06:09] <ubotu> console-setup: Setup the font and the keyboard on the console. In component main, is important. Version 1.7ubuntu19 (edgy), package size 409 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[06:09] <Kevlar> but it says there is nothing to upgrade
[06:09] <yacoob> alternate screens
[06:10] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: i got it from main;)
[06:10] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: you're not running feisty now?  did you try the link in the topic?
[06:10] <Kevlar> yes
[06:10] <yacoob> http://fixlog.blogspot.com/2006/09/stop-gnome-terminal-screen-clear.html - this is description and demonstration of this problem
[06:10] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: I'd get the deb source and run the script manually to see what's happening.
[06:10] <toxote> so do people think that fiesty is an improvement over edgy?
[06:10] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: you could always open konsole... and edit hte /etc/apt/sources.list by hand replacing all edgy instances with feisty... then apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:10] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: i'm not very into the debian way of doing it...
[06:11] <bur[n] er> toxote: it's not stable yet, but after april 19th, yes... improvement
[06:11] <PhinnFort> what you explained was what i wanted to do, but how do i do it?
[06:11] <toxote> what happens on apr 19th
[06:11] <bur[n] er> jhutchins: did you just apt-get it?  what shows up in the terminal output of it?
[06:11] <Kevlar> replace word edgy with word fiesty ?
[06:11] <Kevlar> that simple?
[06:11] <bur[n] er> feisty
[06:11] <bur[n] er> not fiesty
[06:11] <PhinnFort> Kevlar: it worked here;)
[06:11] <Kevlar> mispelled/?
[06:12] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: that's it
[06:12] <bur[n] er> be prepared for breakage!
[06:12] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: where can i get the deb source?
[06:12] <pollyo> Anyone here familiar with fonts:/
[06:12] <bur[n] er> it's not final until april 19th of course
[06:12] <PhinnFort> pollyo: i've used it;)
[06:12] <toxote> o ic
[06:12] <PhinnFort> it isn't that bad here
[06:13] <bur[n] er> PhinnFort: you probably don't need it!  what's the output from the term say?
[06:13] <pollyo> PhonnFort: I just copied some fonts to that directory.  Do you know how to make them show up in applications?
[06:13] <PhinnFort> bur[n] er: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/91399
[06:13] <Kevlar> What will break normally an upgrade means improvement?
[06:13] <PhinnFort> bur[n] er:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 20
[06:13] <bur[n] er> pollyo: use the kde font installer
[06:13] <pollyo> bur[n] er: Where is that?
[06:14] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: You know, I actually have no idea how to get a package source, but you could just unpack the deb file and access the script that way.
[06:14] <PhinnFort> okay
[06:14] <bur[n] er> pollyo: system settings -> appearance -> font installer
[06:14] <bur[n] er> PhinnFort: ok... get the source ;)  i was underestimating you
[06:14] <PhinnFort> heh, i'm just used to the gentoo way of doing things
[06:14] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: speak the english you don't very well ;)
[06:14] <PhinnFort> "fix you own darn bugs1";)
[06:15] <PhinnFort> *s/you/your
[06:15] <PhinnFort> yeah...
[06:15] <Kevlar> What will break? Normally, an upgrade means improvement?
[06:15] <JonnyRo> Anyone here running tomboy in kubuntu?
[06:15] <Kevlar> (better?)
[06:15] <Kevlar> grammanazi
[06:16] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: it's not "final"  it's not even beta!  it's an alpha release... upgrade means improvement but only after it's officially released
[06:16] <jhutchins> Kevlar: That's why people need to try the upgrade, so developers will know what will break.  If we already knew, it would be fixed and wouldn't break.
[06:16] <bur[n] er> though Feisty is great for me, it could be bad for others
[06:16] <PhinnFort> Kevlar: the artwork is cooler, but not much else is changed
[06:16] <PhinnFort> i switched mostly for upgraded KTorrent;)
[06:16] <pollyo> bur[n] er: Thanks.  Any idea if I can use my windows .fon fonts with linux?
[06:16] <bur[n] er> .fon?  no idea... i use .ttf
[06:16] <PhinnFort> pollyo: i think X.org supports them
[06:16] <Kevlar> PhinnFort:  worth upgrading or waiting?  how long until official release?
[06:17] <Ryiel> hey
[06:17] <PhinnFort> !feisty
[06:17] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:17] <jhutchins> pollyo: Probably not directly, but you can convert them to ttf or some other supported format.
[06:17] <PhinnFort> Kevlar: if you know how to fix your system without help, do it;)
[06:17] <pollyo> jhutchins: Ok. I was thinking that.
[06:17] <Kevlar> when is the new kernal from linus coming?:
[06:17] <jhutchins> Kevlar: See http://kernel.org
[06:17] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: you know if it the control or data package that contains the configure script?
[06:18] <PhinnFort> Kevlar: if that release is too slow, try andrew morton's kernel patchset
[06:19] <bur[n] er> PhinnFort: you're kidding right?  Kevlar doesn't know how to upgrade to feisty and you're suggesting kernel compiles?
[06:19] <PhinnFort> it was a joke
[06:19] <bur[n] er> ;)
[06:19] <Kevlar> lol im so stupid!!!
[06:19] <Kevlar> hahhaa
[06:20] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:20] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: you got it installed... that's a great start!
[06:20] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: the "config" script seems to execute quite nicely
[06:21] <Kevlar> thanks
[06:21] <bur[n] er> any of you use kontact with an exchange server?
[06:21] <Kevlar> You know there is a notable lack of easy to understand instructions
[06:21] <PhinnFort> Kevlar: compiling the kernel isn't very hard, just boresome and you need to know a lot about linux
[06:21] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: There's a deb equivalaent of a spec file that lists the scripts to run, you're looking for whatever the postinstall script is.
[06:21] <PhinnFort> ah...
[06:21] <PhinnFort> maybe "postinst"?
[06:21] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:21] <Kevlar> plus, a notable presense of if you dont know, then you are too late to the game...attitude
[06:21] <Kevlar> oh well
[06:22] <Kevlar> I dont care, Im done paying MSFT for bullshit upgrades.
[06:22] <bur[n] er> well... you don't know about the windows kernel right?
[06:22] <jhutchins> Kevlar: Instructions for wwhat?
[06:22] <Kevlar> anything
[06:22] <bur[n] er> help.ubuntu.com
[06:22] <PhinnFort> well, i miss the equivalent of gentoo-wiki.com
[06:22] <jhutchins> http://tldp.org
[06:22] <Kevlar> okay
[06:22] <bur[n] er> wiki.ubuntu.com :)
[06:22] <PhinnFort> bur[n] er: i really don't find it a worthy replacement
[06:22] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:23] <Kevlar> I cant believe 300 dollars for singing dancing GUI that is because of hardware advances NOT MSFT advances yet I pay?@Q
[06:23] <PhinnFort> bur[n] er: the gentoo wiki has info on everything, from ripping movie streams with mplayer to compiling a kernel
[06:23] <Kevlar> enough.
[06:23] <bur[n] er> PhinnFort: you're welcome to address that ;)
[06:23] <jhutchins> Kevlar: The problem with linux/unix is that there is a LOT to learn at the beginning, and it's hard to figure out where to start.
[06:23] <PhinnFort> bur[n] er: i actually thought about putting up a proper media-wiki
[06:23] <Kevlar> Yeah, Im patient and believe it or not I can learn, so I'll get it.
[06:23] <bur[n] er> PhinnFort: and divert from wiki.ubuntu.com?  great
[06:23] <PhinnFort> i really don't care for the wiki they use, either;)
[06:23] <jhutchins> Kevlar: Even running a simplified-and-configured-for-newbies distro puts you right up against running a compiler suite if you happen to have odd hardware.
[06:23] <Kevlar> Im in sales so from a "selling/marketing" standpoint this has a LOOONG way to go.
[06:23] <CainMadness> Wine/World of Warcraft problem. I got the game installed and updated, but each time I try to load it with wine 'blahblahblah WoW.exe -opengl' it tries to load. Gives me a distorted screen, then kicks out to the Ubuntu load-up screen. Anyone know what's going on? The Gentoo I was using was kind of lacking of problem/solution.
[06:24] <Kevlar> Yeah
[06:24] <hatta> Kevlar, the best things in life are free
[06:24] <Kevlar> it was easier ONLY because it had so many DRIVERS in it
[06:24] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: there are always folks to help too
[06:24] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: the postinst script doesn't seem to error out either...
[06:24] <Kevlar> But, other than that it seems the same as Red hat from 10 years ago, but prettier
[06:24] <Kevlar> with more software
[06:24] <Kevlar> I did that and now Im just relearning
[06:25] <Kevlar> luckily I dont haver to go through all the driver trouble.
[06:25] <Kevlar> What I dont understand is why LINUX cant run DirectX yet?
[06:25] <PhinnFort> hmm..
[06:25] <CainMadness> Why would you want to?
[06:25] <bur[n] er> for gaming of course
[06:25] <Kevlar> If you coould run Directx yo ucould do alot more
[06:25] <PhinnFort> DirectX is made by microsoft
[06:25] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: So can you try running the package again?  Is it just an error in the spec list?
[06:25] <PhinnFort> mail them and ask them to port it
[06:25] <Kevlar> of course
[06:25] <Kevlar> o?
[06:25] <Kevlar> So?
[06:25] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: openGL > directX :)
[06:25] <PhinnFort> by magnitudes
[06:25] <Kevlar> DirectX Linux version?
[06:26] <Kevlar> lol
[06:26] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:26] <bur[n] er> plus... for the directx stuff, you can use wine for hte most part... all games I've tried work
[06:26] <Kevlar> Only because software makers use it
[06:26] <CainMadness> So, speaking of wine and opengl and such. Anyone got a solution for my problem?
[06:26] <Kevlar> Well, WINE slows you down right?
[06:26] <PhinnFort> Kevlar: not noticably
[06:26] <Daskreech> Why is X.org taking up 70% of my CPU?
[06:26] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: some software makers use VB... should we get that too?  ;)  just cause people use it doesn't make it good
[06:26] <PhinnFort> not when running
[06:26] <Kevlar> Well
[06:26] <PhinnFort> Daskreech: you using beryl?
[06:27] <Daskreech> PhinnFort: Nope
[06:27] <Kevlar> When the WORLD turns clockwise, why not adjust your clock?
[06:27] <PhinnFort> Daskreech: many windows open?
[06:27] <Kevlar> Dont fight em, beat em.
[06:27] <Daskreech> Not more than ususl
[06:27] <PhinnFort> Kevlar: metric?
[06:27] <Kevlar> lol
[06:27] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:27] <Daskreech> Firefox takes 25% :-(
[06:27] <bur[n] er> Daskreech: close apps until it goes down to find out :)
[06:27] <jhutchins> Why walk when you can fly?
[06:27] <PhinnFort> well, firefox is teh suxx0rz
[06:27] <Kevlar> lol oh here we go?
[06:27] <PhinnFort> why dance when you can sing?
[06:28] <bur[n] er> konq rules for speed :)
[06:28] <Kevlar> well
[06:28] <PhinnFort> and size
[06:28] <PhinnFort> :D
[06:28] <Kevlar> I have noticed MANY games anf other programs making for Linux
[06:28] <Kevlar> Plus
[06:28] <CainMadness> Skip all that. Use Terminal as your browser! All text baby! XD
[06:28] <Kevlar> France officially put their parliment on Ubuntu
[06:28] <bur[n] er> Kevlar: nexuiz is a neat first person shooter in apt :)
[06:28] <PhinnFort> links ftw
[06:28] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[06:28] <bur[n] er> lol
[06:29] <PhinnFort> you a professional script kiddie?
[06:29] <bur[n] er> tech support
[06:29] <bur[n] er> ;)
[06:29] <PhinnFort> ah;)
[06:29] <Daskreech> yup
[06:29] <CainMadness> So.. My World of Warcraft problem. Anyone got suggestions?
[06:29] <PhinnFort> CainMadness: it's probably a problem with your graphic card's drivers
[06:29] <hatta> CainMadness, you can use w3m in a terminal with graphics support
[06:30] <hatta> it's kinda cool actually
[06:30] <PhinnFort> CainMadness: what kind of gfx-card, and what drivers you use?
[06:30] <bur[n] er> CainMadness: for the WoW, did you check the ubuntu wiki about it?
[06:30] <Ryiel> do you run it with wine?
[06:30] <Skuller> i guess thats obvious..no?
[06:30] <CainMadness> Nvidia 256gb 6600GT. And I haven't checked to see which drivers it is running at the moment. I'll bash my head in, if vesa.
[06:30] <CainMadness> Yes Burner, I did.
[06:31] <Ryiel> could be cedega :)
[06:31] <PhinnFort> or qemu
[06:31] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:31] <Skuller> Ryiel: ah my bad. totally forgot about the other softs
[06:31] <bur[n] er> CainMadness: you have the latest wine right?  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep nv  see if ti's nvidia or nv
[06:31] <Alonea> my amarok wont load unless I go into the terminal and run it as root.
[06:31] <PhinnFort> or glxinfo | grep endor
[06:32] <bur[n] er> Alonea: remove the .config maybe?
[06:32] <Alonea> bur[n] er: umm, which one and where?
[06:32] <PhinnFort> Alonea: .kde/share/config?
[06:32] <PhinnFort> somewhere there
[06:32] <PhinnFort> and .kde/share/apps/amarok/*
[06:32] <bur[n] er> Alonea: it's in .kde/share/apps/amarok or something
[06:32] <Daskreech> Skuller: They are micro
[06:33] <Skuller> Daskreech: ??
[06:33] <Daskreech> Skuller: Other softs
[06:33] <Ryiel> Btw, i've got a problem guys, i hope someone can help me. I installed kde on my ubuntu yesterday and it does not work properly. In some appilcations i cannot write symbols by pressing the alt gr+keys, and i cannot run system properties program cause if i click on display settings it says i need root right but clicking on the change to root button does nothing...
[06:33] <Skuller> Daskreech: i dont get what you mean by "they are micro"
[06:33] <JonnyRo> A program i am running is complaining about not being able to get to /usr/bin/esd
[06:34] <jhutchins> !kdesu | Ryiel
[06:34] <JonnyRo> Is this something that is safe to add, and if so, what package should I use
[06:34] <ubotu> Ryiel: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:34] <Daskreech> Skuller: Think about it a little more :-)
[06:34] <Alonea> and its a .config file right?
[06:34] <Skuller> Daskreech: hehe...seriously....you mean they are small or something?..or a minority?
[06:34] <Daskreech> Skuller: re read bug1
[06:35] <Daskreech> He really has forgotten the other softs :-D
[06:35] <Skuller> Daskreech: umm...whats 'bug1'?
[06:35] <Daskreech> !bug1
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <PhinnFort> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1
[06:35] <Daskreech> yeah that!
[06:36] <Ryiel> jhutchins: Do you mean i mucked up my settings? Kdesu says: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168...
[06:36] <jhutchins> Ryiel: How did you install kde?
[06:36] <Alonea> bur[n] er: I am not finding and *.config files
[06:37] <PhinnFort> Alonea: just delete all files in the relevant directories
[06:37] <Ryiel> sudo aptitude kde i guess
[06:37] <jhutchins> Alonea: just remove any folders or files with amarok in the name under .kde
[06:37] <Ryiel> i got a link here yesterday :)
[06:37] <Alonea> jhutchins: I dont have a .kde folder
[06:37] <PhinnFort> .kde/share/apps/amarok/ and .kde/share/config/amarok/
[06:37] <PhinnFort> Alonea: it's hidden
[06:38] <PhinnFort> click on "view" and "SHow hidden files"
[06:38] <Alonea> PhinnFort: I have my hidden files showing!
[06:38] <jhutchins> Ryiel: Probably didn't get everything then.  Preferred method is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:38] <PhinnFort> Alonea: it's in your homedirectory
[06:38] <jhutchins> Alonea: Yes you do.
[06:38] <jhutchins> ~/.kde
[06:38] <jhutchins> Doesn't show up in file listings, it's a "hidden" file.
[06:38] <Ryiel> jhutchins: What should i do then? Just trying this sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[06:38] <PhinnFort>  /home/alonea/.kde
[06:38] <Alonea> oh ok, I didn't know it was in home directory
[06:38] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:38] <jhutchins> Ryiel: Yeah, that's what I would suggest.
[06:38] <Alonea> I always have my hidden showing
[06:38] <Ryiel> thanks
[06:39] <PhinnFort> Alonea: a thumb rule is that all programs store settings in your home dir
[06:39] <PhinnFort> except webservers and the like
[06:39] <PhinnFort> has anyone tried dreamlinux?
[06:39] <Ryiel> jhutchins: It says no package to install, the newest versions are already installed
[06:39] <Skuller> things*
[06:40] <PhinnFort> Skuller: hit it with a bat, it helps for me
[06:40] <PhinnFort> the net, that is
[06:40] <jhutchins> Ryiel: Then that's probably how you installed it.
[06:40] <Skuller> PhinnFort: if only i could find one here in an 'awesome' country like 'FIJI'
[06:40] <jhutchins> You could try --reinstall, but it's probably something else.
[06:40] <Ryiel> jhutchins: Ok, i try to --reinstall it
[06:41] <jhutchins> Ryiel: I'm going to defer to people who've done a ubuntu => kubuntu upgrade.
[06:41] <PhinnFort> well, i can mail you a bat from "awesome" norway;(
[06:41] <PhinnFort> *;)
[06:41] <Ryiel> I should have installed kubuntu instead of ubuntu :(
[06:42] <PhinnFort> Ryiel: your problems are kind weird, since i went from gentoo to kubuntu, without erasing my home-directory (same settings for almost all programs;))
[06:42] <PhinnFort> some freak bug
[06:42] <Alonea> ok, now amarok wont load at all (before a little box saying I think updating database or something..i forgot came up and then went away)
[06:42] <Ryiel> Yeah, i know... I'm thinking about formatting and installing it again...
[06:42] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: ubuntu is kubuntu with gnome instead of kde.
[06:42] <PhinnFort> i know, that's why it should've been smooth
[06:43] <jhutchins> Alonea: Is it in the system tray?
[06:43] <Alonea> jhutchins: no
[06:43] <jhutchins> Alonea: Run it from a console, as a regular user, see what output it has.
[06:43] <Skuller> Daskreech: omg...LOL...whoever came up with the idea of classifying it as a bug is smart
[06:43] <PhinnFort> Skuller: the nr. 1? Mark Shuttleworth, probably
[06:43] <PhinnFort> the great, glorious, etc.
[06:44] <Alonea> jhutchins: does the uploading database box, then goes off. output is just X Errors.
[06:44] <Daskreech> Skuller: Write Shuttleworth and thank him
[06:44] <jhutchins> I don't want the whole world to run linux.  I want microsoft to skimm off the lowest common denominators and leave linux to people who know what they're doing.
[06:44] <Daskreech> PhinnFort: Is canonical a public company?
[06:44] <jhutchins> Alonea: Did you remove the folders, or just the files in .kde?
[06:44] <Skuller> PhinnFort: yes...most probably...but i have to admit this is a MAJOR bug, succeeded by a whole lot of idiots
[06:44] <Daskreech> jhutchins: Thats what they do now
[06:44] <Ryiel> im trying to learn what im doing and i enjoy it jhutchins:D
[06:45] <Alonea> jhutchins: just any files that had config in the name.
[06:45] <PhinnFort> Daskreech: dunno, i just use their stuff
[06:45] <jhutchins> Alonea: What I suspect is that when you ran it as root, it created files as root that the regular user can't write to.
[06:45] <jhutchins> Alonea: The folders it created as root won't be writable either.
[06:45] <PhinnFort> http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ is awesome
[06:45] <Alonea> jhutchins: I ran it as root because it was the only thing that would work to run it
[06:45] <PhinnFort> isn't ubuntu doing something similar?
[06:46] <jhutchins> Alonea: I seem to recall having exactly that problem, but unfortunately not what I did to fix it other than remove files.
[06:46] <Ryiel> yeah, i saw that website already :D
[06:46] <Daskreech> PhinnFort: Do they publish Accounts?
[06:46] <PhinnFort> Daskreech: what kind of accounts?
[06:46] <jhutchins> Alonea: If nothing else, there's #amarok .
[06:46] <Alonea> jhutchins: I didn't ever run it as root until it started not running. it did this pretty much right after I installed my system.
[06:46] <PhinnFort> they're a south-african based company, afaik, promoting ubuntu and everything free
[06:46] <jermain> !nl
[06:46] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[06:46] <Daskreech> PhinnFort: Pfofit and loss
[06:46] <PhinnFort> !canonica
[06:46] <PhinnFort> !canonical
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about canonica - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[06:47] <sdlnxgk> if you are stuck in 800x600 how can you scroll down to bottom of config box to hit accept??
[06:47] <firecrotch> I had forgotten why I use Kubuntu, until today
[06:47] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: use tab and enter
[06:47] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort thanks, was going crazy :)
[06:47] <firecrotch> Tried to install Fedora 5 on a computer at school, and nothing works
[06:47] <PhinnFort> np;)
[06:48] <PhinnFort> yuck... my website is getting referals from live search...
[06:48] <Skuller> Daskreech: i would have thanked him...had i known a way to do so
[06:49] <Skuller> PhinnFort: what is that
[06:49] <PhinnFort> Skuller: m$' stab at a search engine
[06:49] <Skuller> PhinnFort: i mean the 'goodbye-microsoft' thingy
[06:49] <angela> how do i uninstall that useless ATI control panel ?
[06:49] <PhinnFort> Skuller: it's a windows installer for debian
[06:49] <PhinnFort> *windows-based
[06:50] <Skuller> PhinnFort: umm how can that be?..i mean install debian from windows?
[06:50] <Skuller> PhinnFort: debian is a distro right?
[06:50] <Ryiel> angela: Do you want to install ati drivers too?
[06:50] <jhutchins> Skuller: There are windows based installers.
[06:50] <angela> Ryiel: i have them installed im using them now
[06:50] <PhinnFort> Skuller: yes
[06:50] <PhinnFort> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/
[06:50] <angela> just wanna get rid of ugly panel
[06:50] <Ryiel> Oh... No idea then...
[06:51] <jhutchins> angela: Just kill whatever process it is.
[06:51] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort is it best to run your resolution at max like in my case 1600x1200
[06:51] <lonewolf> Hi, Im wondering if anyone can help me with "Adept manager"?
[06:51] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: depends on what you like
[06:51] <PhinnFort> i have 1600x1200 myself now
[06:51] <angela> jhutchins: there is no "process", its a installed package providing a useless and ugly ati control panel
[06:51] <jhutchins> angela: ctrl-alt-esc will give you a nice skull-and-crossbones cursor that you can click on any gui app to kill it.
[06:51] <PhinnFort> but before i got a new screen i had 1280x1024
[06:51] <Skuller> Daskreech: regarding that bug....people here dont know that anything such a 'linux' exists.....and they also dont know that 'xp' costs
[06:52] <jhutchins> angela: everything's a process.
[06:52] <Daskreech> Skuller: See bug confirmed
[06:52] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: not /etc/hostname
[06:52] <angela> jhutchins: something that doesnt run is not a process
[06:52] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort thanks again will check out some other settings... just glad to be out of 800x600 :D
[06:52] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:52] <lonewolf> When I click "fetch updates" on ym adept manager, It stays at 0% waiting for headers...
[06:52] <lonewolf> any ideas?
[06:52] <Daskreech> lonewolf: What's up?
[06:52] <jhutchins> angela: If it's not running, why does it bother you?
[06:52] <Daskreech> lonewolf: Change your server
[06:52] <lonewolf> I followed the instructions oon http://www.linuxloader.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=28&page=11
[06:52] <PhinnFort> lonewolf: cancel and run the program again
[06:52] <lonewolf> and uncommented the deb lines.
[06:53] <jhutchins> lonewolf: Try using the console version, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade.
[06:53] <lonewolf> how do I change my server?
[06:53] <lonewolf> ok 1 sec
[06:53] <angela> jhutchins: beacuse its installed and its of no use, and it looks ugly in the KDE menus ocupying space there thats why and no i dont wanna edit menus to removie it i just need to uninstall it from system :P
[06:53] <jhutchins> !easysources | lonewolf
[06:53] <ubotu> lonewolf: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:53] <Skuller> Daskreech: oh yes....its confirmed alright...and i tend to reduce a tinsy winsy bit by giving the ONLY comp vendor shop here a copy of official ubuntu cd....as soon as i get them from 'shipit'
[06:53] <jhutchins> angela: There's always rm.
[06:53] <angela> jhutchins: rm what ? ?
[06:53] <Daskreech> Skuller: don't forget you may have to also offer support to him :-)
[06:54] <Daskreech>  do you have LUG?
[06:54] <jhutchins> angela: rm whatever files were installed.  You probably can't remove it with the package manager.  Did it install with the drivers?
[06:54] <lonewolf> hutchins..
[06:54] <lonewolf> I got an error when doing the console get command
[06:55] <lonewolf> lonewolf@Lonewolfkubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:55] <lonewolf> Password:
[06:55] <lonewolf> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:55] <lonewolf> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:55] <lonewolf> lonewolf@Lonewolfkubuntu:~$
[06:55] <angela> jhutchins: yes i can remove it with the package manager but i forgot whats the package name and i installed it AFTER i installed the ati drivers ...
[06:55] <Daskreech> !paste
[06:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <jhutchins> lonewolf: make sure the gui app is not still running.
[06:56] <Skuller> Daskreech: lol...yes don worry about that....i am the only one who offers him 'general support' regarding his job...when he started off he dint know what an 'amd' was
[06:56] <jhutchins> angela: Ok, what file does the menu entry point to?
[06:56] <Daskreech> Skuller: great saleman :-)
[06:56] <PhinnFort> lonewolf: "sudo lsof  /var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[06:56] <LiveUser> Hi, GRUB has stoped working today 'error 17', I've booted to live cd; how can I reinstall GRUB?
[06:56] <Skuller> Daskreech: the only problem is....customers wont accept anything other than xp
[06:56] <angela> jhutchins: /usr/bin/fireglcontrol
[06:56] <angela> a gui app thats kinda useless
[06:57] <angela> more for informative purpose
[06:57] <PhinnFort> Skuller: even with lower prices?
[06:57] <Skuller> Daskreech: the users here are not "wow...this works cool...i wanna try it.."..but "what!! this aint xp!?...but i spent my last 2 days working on it at my aunty's place..no no no ic ant use anything else"
[06:58] <firecrotch> !grub | LiveUser
[06:58] <Skuller> PhinnFort: price is not a factor...the vendor pre-installs a copy of xp b4 supplying....obviously pirated...
[06:58] <ubotu> LiveUser: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:58] <PhinnFort> Skuller: too bad
[06:58] <jhutchins> angela: Acording to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto, dlocate /usr/bin/fireglcontrol will give you the package name.
[06:58] <Skuller> PhinnFort: yea...they dont know
[06:58] <LiveUser> firecrotch; thankyou
[06:59] <Daskreech> Skuller: well Don't force people
[06:59] <firecrotch> LiveUser: my pleasure
[06:59] <Skuller> PhinnFort: that xp costs....acc to them if you charge them 350 bux for it ur a dumbass vendor
[06:59] <Daskreech> See if he can get a demo computer running and find someone who is always willing to pay less for the computer :)
[06:59] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:59] <PhinnFort> be sure to get beryl and friends running
[06:59] <lonewolf> hold on let me register so that I can PM ><
[06:59] <jhutchins> Daskreech, Skuller, could you take the microsoft chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[07:00] <Skuller> Daskreech: dw...i cant...i'll just give the copy of ubun to the vendor to try out himself...he was curious about it when i told him i switched to it fulltime...so he just wants a trial copy
[07:00] <Skuller> jhutchins: ok sorry about this...i'll continue with this some other time and channel....thanks for reminding
[07:02] <bxnp> anybody played with strigi
[07:02] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: all the scripts i could find in the .deb ran fine, but dpkg still gives me " subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 20"
[07:03] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: I'd report that as a package bug then.
[07:04] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: it's already reported
[07:04] <PhinnFort> i'm still trying to get any useful info out of dpkg, though
[07:04] <jhutchins> !adept crash fix > Encryption_Ninja
[07:04] <PhinnFort> hmm, the last line when rather verbose, is "D000200: conffderef in=`/etc/init.d/console-setup' current working=`/etc/init.d/console-setup'"
[07:04] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: See what exit status 20 means in the post script?
[07:05] <PhinnFort> another great idea;)
[07:05] <PhinnFort> i'm too tired to be doing this
[07:05] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:06] <jhutchins> I need lunch.
[07:06] <PhinnFort> couldn't find "20" in any of the scripts...
[07:06] <PhinnFort> happy feeding
[07:08] <Ryiel> jhutchins: Do you have any idea why i cannot type symbols in some applications? it's like my keyboard layout wouldn't be hungarian in some applications. (Openoffice, firefox)
[07:08] <eagles0513875> what day in april does feisty come out
[07:09] <pollyo> Hello
[07:09] <eagles0513875> what day in april does feisty come out
[07:09] <Ryiel> re
[07:10] <borg> hi, i wanted to know how to install a .tar.gz file
[07:10] <PhinnFort> i'm trying with "insane amounts of drivel"
[07:10] <Ryiel> borg: unpack them
[07:10] <borg> how?
[07:11] <borg>  Ryiel:what is the shell command?
[07:11] <Ryiel> i think if you double click on them in kde it opens the archive with a program, doesnt it?
[07:11] <botxj__> hello borg, i believe you are using my nick, can you change it please, i want it back
[07:11] <pollyo> Ryiel: Doesn't KDE use single clicks unless you change the setting to double click?
[07:11] <botxj__> sup Whopper
[07:11] <Daskreech> eagles0513875: When it is done
[07:11] <Whopper> hey borg
[07:11] <PhinnFort> botxj__: register it
[07:11] <Whopper> hey matthew
[07:11] <PhinnFort> ?
[07:11] <Whopper> :)
[07:11] <CainMadness> Back from tinkering. I'm stuck on vesa drivers. I switch to nv and the screen gets all distorted. So.. How do I fix so I can play WoW on Wine?
[07:11] <Ryiel> pollyo: right :D
[07:11] <Whopper> coreymon
[07:11] <botxj__> borg, i believe i'm talking to you
[07:12] <Whopper> borg: you see
[07:12] <botxj__> you have 30 seconds to change the nick
[07:12] <borg> Ryiel: i unpack the stuff and then?
[07:12] <botxj__> i saw you talk here
[07:12] <Ryiel> borg: it depends on what's in the archive
[07:12] <borg>   botxj__:give me a sec to finish this and then you can have your nick back
[07:12] <Whopper> borg: he uses this nick
[07:12] <botxj__> ok borg
[07:12] <Whopper> lol
[07:13] <Whopper> it's like you talking to the same person xD
[07:13] <eagles0513875> dask so there is no speciic date of relese
[07:13] <eagles0513875> *release
[07:13] <pollyo> How do you register a nick?
[07:13] <pollyo> Can you on this server?
[07:13] <borg>  Ryiel: what do i have to look for?
[07:13] <Daskreech> !register
[07:13] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:13] <PhinnFort> pollyo: /msg nickserv help
[07:13] <Ryiel> borg: ./configue, ./make ./make install
[07:13] <pollyo> Daskreech: Thanks
[07:13] <borg>  Ryiel: k give me a sec
[07:13] <Daskreech> eagles0513875: there is but it's not really a hard in stone date. it can vary two or three days before or after
[07:14] <CainMadness> Back from tinkering. I'm stuck on vesa drivers. I switch to nv and the screen gets all distorted. So.. How do I fix so I can play WoW on Wine?
[07:14] <Daskreech> !feisty
[07:14] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:14] <Daskreech> eagles0513875: ^^^
[07:14] <PhinnFort> !wow
[07:14] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:14] <borg> k thanks
[07:14] <Ryiel> i meant you should use those commands if thats a program you are trying to compile
[07:14] <botxj__> sweet
[07:14] <Ryiel> register your nick borg :D
[07:15] <eagles0513875> what is the day they r sayin
[07:15] <PhinnFort> i have crap: http://rafb.net/p/f2yh8912.html
[07:15] <Ashex|Work> so, how's everyone doing?
[07:15] <Ryiel> we all have PhinnFort, we just dont show it to others :D
[07:15] <borg> Ryiel: it IS registered, been registered for 6 months, i was just asking him to change it to be polite, cause i didnt want to be rude and k-line him via nickserv ghost
[07:15] <Ryiel> just use recover :D
[07:15] <PhinnFort> k-lining is polite
[07:15] <borg> that would be rude, Ryiel
[07:15] <borg> i was trying to be polite
[07:16] <PhinnFort> ddos is rude
[07:16] <Ryiel> yeah :D
[07:16] <Ash-Fox> For those of you who are having problems with Wine's official repository for edgy (the new package technically shouldn't install because of bad dependencies). I have fixed the package myself and uploaded it to my own repository, you can add my repository via: sudo bash -c 'echo deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/ >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:17] <Daskreech> Ash-Fox: What about feisty?
[07:17] <Ryiel> Do you guys have any idea why some applicates act like i didnt have hungarian keyboard layout?
[07:17] <Ash-Fox> Daskreech, I don't have feisty, I have no idea if it's broken there.
[07:17] <Daskreech> ok
[07:17] <PhinnFort> because they're hungery?
[07:17] <Ryiel> :P
[07:18] <Ryiel> I cannot write symbols, thats the problem
[07:18] <PhinnFort> Ash-Fox: have you set your keyboard layout correctly?
[07:18] <PhinnFort> *s/ash-fox/ryiel
[07:18] <Ryiel> :D
[07:18] <Ryiel> Yep, i can write here and in konqueror but not in openoffice or firefox
[07:19] <Ash-Fox> Ryiel, make sure you have the proper locales fully installed.
[07:19] <amaan> hey does kiba-dock run in kubuntu?
[07:19] <alexicon> heya does anyone here run rails?
[07:19] <PhinnFort> amaan: prolly
[07:19] <Ryiel> How to make that sure Ash-Fox?
[07:19] <pollyo> Hello
[07:20] <amaan> PhinnFort, i tried it and when i try running it nothing opens...?
[07:20] <space_ninja> where do "ls" get these colors?
[07:20] <space_ninja> where is this alias?
[07:20] <PhinnFort> .bash_profile?
[07:20] <Ash-Fox> Ryiel, first I'd do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales', then a upgrade..
[07:20] <space_ninja> it's not there PhinnFort
[07:20] <PhinnFort> then i have no idea
[07:21] <Ryiel> thanks Ash-Fox
[07:21] <Ryiel> :P
[07:21] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:21] <Ryiel> not that was rude! :D
[07:21] <Ryiel> *now
[07:21] <space_ninja> is there a way to echo all alias'
[07:22] <Daskreech> !kiba-dock
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <PhinnFort> !kiba
[07:22] <Ryiel> Ash-Fox: it says everything is up to date
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <PhinnFort> !20
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 20 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Daskreech> Oh lord. Can I open a file as a new sheet in KSpread?
[07:23] <Daskreech> !300
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 300 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Daskreech> Dagnabit
[07:23] <Ash-Fox> Ryiel, good
[07:23] <Ryiel> but it still doesnt work :D
[07:23] <Ash-Fox> It means it isn't a locale issue
[07:24] <Ryiel> Where can i set these nasty utf-8 back to iso-8859-1?
[07:24] <Ash-Fox> Unfortunately I don't really know what the issue could be.
[07:24] <Ryiel> There was a locales file somewhere...
[07:24] <Ryiel> !locales
[07:24] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:25] <Ryiel> awesome
[07:31] <fulld> Hello, I cuttently have an operational raid array and I would like to start it automatically using mdadm.conf. This is exactly how I start it now: http://pastebin.ca/402104
[07:32] <Kevlar> Im getting an error loading a video it says I need a plugin called x-mplayer2
[07:32] <Kevlar> its media player and it doesnt work
[07:32] <eeos> hi there.
[07:32] <Kevlar> how to get it to work on linux?
[07:33] <Encryption_ninja> anyone available to help me with ym adept manager please?
[07:33] <eeos> how do you ask apt-get to install also recommended and suggested packages when you install a package?
[07:34] <Kevlar> How can I view PORN if I cant get the right plugin??
[07:34] <Kevlar> hehe
[07:35] <Kevlar> sewriously cant view embedded wmv files
[07:36] <TMM> hi all, I've got kubuntu feisty running and I am using kontact with the groupwise plugin, kontact, however, dumps 3 logfiles in ~ that grow explosively
[07:36] <TMM> as in, a couple of gigabytes per day
[07:36] <TMM> I would really like to disable this logging 'functionality' :)
[07:38] <TMM> ah, it is apparently a gsoap compile-time feature
[07:38] <TMM> not possible to disable at runtime... great :(
[07:39] <yacoob> anyone seen deb for kirocker?
[07:39] <eeos> how do you ask apt-get to install also recommended and suggested packages when you install a package?
[07:40] <jhutchins> eeos: You mean without asking?
[07:40] <eeos> jhutchins I mean that apt-get tells you there are recommended and suggested packages. They are not required, so it does not installa them.
[07:41] <eeos> jhutchins whilst I want it to install them together with the required packages.
[07:42] <frojnd> hello
[07:42] <jhutchins> eeos: Don't think that's an option.
[07:42] <frojnd> why my cdrom won't recognize DVD data cd ?
[07:42] <frojnd> I was able to burn data on dvd
[07:42] <eeos> jhutchins :(
[07:42] <frojnd> but now that I put it back it deown't recognize it?
[07:42] <frojnd> any idea
[07:43] <eeos> jhutchins so why tell you what are the recommended and suggested packages if you cannot install them? that sounds superfluous
[07:43] <jhutchins> eeos: You have the option to install them manually.
[07:44] <jhutchins> eeos: I don't want a system installing packages I didn't ask for.
[07:44] <eeos> jhutchins indeed it should offer the option.
[07:44] <jhutchins> frojnd: It's probably a bad burn.  Verify it next time before you eject it.
[07:44] <eeos> jhutchins this is what I am saying. why does it tell you what are the recommended and suggested packages if you cannot install them? it is completely useless.
[07:44] <jhutchins> eeos: I've never actually encountered that.
[07:45] <jhutchins> eeos: So you can install them manually if you want to.
[07:45] <eeos> jhutchins what do you mean? do you use CLI apt-get?
[07:45] <jhutchins> eeos: Yes.
[07:45] <frojnd> oh now it recognize the dvd..
[07:45] <eeos> jhutchins but you have to rerun the entire thing, with other suggested and recommended packages.
[07:45] <frojnd> but I am not able to see data in cdrom0
[07:45] <jhutchins> eeos: Yup.
[07:45] <eeos> jhutchins extremely annying.
[07:46] <jhutchins> eeos: File a feature request.
[07:46] <eeos> jhutchins I will.
[07:46] <frojnd> oh
[07:46] <frojnd> now I am able to see it
[07:46] <jhutchins> eeos: Complaining here really won't do anything.
[07:46] <eeos> jhutchins thanks for help :)
[07:46] <frojnd> my dvd/cd is fuuuuu
[07:46] <jhutchins> frojnd: DVD's can be really be sloow.
[07:46] <eeos> jhutchins I was not complaining I was asking hwo to do it.
[07:46] <jhutchins> eeos: Right.
[07:47] <jhutchins> eeos: Check the man page though, I'm not exactly an apt expert.
[07:47] <eeos> jhutchins already done the man page before asking on chat. anyway, thanks for help. now I know the option is not available. I will file a request.
[07:48] <eeos> have a good evening!
[07:48] <Kevlar> seriously cant view embedded wmv files
[07:48] <Kevlar> how to get it to work on linux?
[07:48] <Kevlar> firefox plugin to view embedded wmv files?
[07:49] <eeos> kevlar search the wiki for codec there are instructions
[07:49] <Kevlar> okay
[07:49] <eeos> have a good evening!
[07:50] <frojnd> what are your experiences with copying files from dvd to usb ?
[07:52] <tapion> salut a tous
[07:52] <tapion> y'a qqun ?
[07:54] <tapion> yop
[07:55] <tapion> je reois aucune rponse ou je les vois simplement pas ?
[07:55] <tapion> ou encore vous voulez pas rpondre ?
[07:57] <tapion> -.-
[07:57] <Malph> !fr
[07:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:59] <Ryiel> !hu
[07:59] <ubotu> Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[07:59] <Ryiel> awesome :D
[07:59] <tapion> hey
[08:00] <tapion> what's up ?
[08:03] <mhall53> hello everyone
[08:07] <mhall53> anyone there
[08:09] <mission> hello
[08:09] <eduard> p3-player for kubuntu? any ideas? system refused to download automaticly
[08:11] <BluesKaj> mhall53, just ask your question
[08:11] <miltos> my hp psc 1410 printer is conncected to a "windows box" and i can't print with samba???anyone the samw problem???
[08:11] <eduard> world? please, i want  to update gaim1.3 to 2.0 beta
[08:11] <mhall53> no question just saying hello lol
[08:12] <BluesKaj> well you asked if anyone was here :)
[08:12] <mhall53> yes  i did it was quiet
[08:12] <eduard> indeed :) 393 nics and no one
[08:12] <BluesKaj> lotta splits on this server
[08:12] <eduard> nicks*
[08:13] <maan84> Hello, I'm gonna try and install a KDE theme, and in the install readme it says "First make sure that you have both the QT and KDE development headers installed (qt and kdellibs devel)" How do I make sure of that? Thx for any help =P
[08:13] <BluesKaj> !themes
[08:13] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:13] <aseigo> maan84: install the -dev packages for qt and kde. easiest way: apt-get build-dep kdebase
[08:14] <maan84> Thank you
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> eduard: I would imagine that you would have to compile from source
[08:15] <eduard> ok, i will try to learn how first :))) i am still new in here
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> shame you are not running gentoo
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> if you build from source then install build-essentials
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> there is probable a howto on gaim 2 on the forums
[08:17] <roland_> anyone know a small irc network wich might accept new server with cable modem connection to internet?
[08:17] <roland_> if there is one
[08:17] <eduard> i downloaded gaim2.0 from konsole - but couldnt finish installation. i got .deb pakage
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> eduard: did you use alien?
[08:18] <eduard> forum is for ubuntu, not for kubuntu
[08:18] <eduard> no
[08:18] <eduard> imean for gnom
[08:18] <__-osh-__> What's the package providing the "switch user" functionality. I need the name to report a bug.
[08:19] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know a program that will allow one to type on a .pdf form, as adobe's acrobat does in windows with its typewriter tool?
[08:20] <aseigo> __-osh-__: the functionality is managed by kdm, and front-ended by kdesktop and kicker via kdmlib
[08:20] <crackhead_25> (there is apparently no typewriter tool that i have seen yet in the kubuntu version of adobe acrobat or kpdf..)
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> eduard: kubuntu = ubuntu using KDE desktop so it doesn't matter which forum you use
[08:21] <aseigo> crackhead_25: pdf forms are only supported by acroread right now; support is being added to poppler now (so it will show up in future versions of kpdf/okular; svn trunk/ already has support for them).
[08:21] <aseigo> crackhead_25: if you mean annotations, okular provides those in the upcoming 4.0 release
[08:22] <crackhead_25> what do you mean annotations? i mean, in windows acroread, there is a typewriter tool with which you can type anywhere on the .pdf page, as if you had put the paper document in a typewriter in the real world.. and that kind of function is what i'm looking for.. okular can do that with a bleeding edge release right now?
[08:22] <eduard> TheGateKeeper - thanks :) i know , iment - when i run commands in konsole may be they are invented for ubuntu and doesnt work properly in kubuntu?
[08:23] <__-osh-__> aseigo: I'll try kdm then. Thanks. I'm sure some kind devel will move it to the proper package if I am misstaken.
[08:24] <TheGateKeeper> eduard: there is NO difference between kubuntu & ubuntu apart from which desktop they use
[08:24] <eduard> TheGateKeeper- ok, got it, thanks.
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> yw :-)
[08:25] <mhall53> lol some how i just uninstalled kubuntu
[08:25] <HymnToLife> [20:25]  <TheGateKeeper> eduard: there is NO difference between kubuntu & ubuntu apart from which desktop they use <= I don't like the word "use", I prefer to say "the desktop they iinstall by default"
[08:26] <eduard> HymnToLife- agree
[08:26] <mhall53> is it any way to reinstall it throught a console
[08:26] <TheGateKeeper> HymnToLife: whatever
[08:26] <bur[n] er> mhall53: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <TheGateKeeper> HymnToLife: point is it's the SAME distro!!
[08:27] <mhall53> ok hold on and i show u the command i used
[08:27] <mhall53> what is that thing i use so i dont flood
[08:28] <bur[n] er> !pastebin
[08:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:28] <jhutchins> mhall53: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:28] <jhutchins> mhall53: But that's probably not necessary.
[08:28] <HymnToLife> TheGateKeeper, course it is, I've always thought it's a bad idea to have two different names
[08:29] <jhutchins> It's ok to paste single lines.
[08:29] <mhall53> i just  uninstalled to the kde core
[08:29] <PirateHead> How do I get Amarok to play .flac audio?
[08:29] <peyote> I have a basic question about program updates in kubuntu. Are programs updated on a daily basis if a new version is released e.g. new version of k3b? Or are the applications only updated when there is a new kubuntu release every 6 month?
[08:29] <bur[n] er> !restricted
[08:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:29] <dhq> are there any alternate repos for beryl
[08:30] <eduard> guys, who knows where to get gaim2.0.0-beta-6 from?
[08:30] <PirateHead> bur[n] er: flac is not a restricted format. Why do I need to use the restricted formats page?
[08:30] <jhutchins> peyote: They're updated when someone notices a new version and decided to back-port it.
[08:30] <bur[n] er> dhq: /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list |grep beryl
[08:30] <peyote> jhutchins: Thanks!
[08:30] <mhall53> am i allowed to post the url i get from pastebin
[08:30] <jhutchins> eduard: Look up gaim on sourceforge or freshmeat and check the site.
[08:30] <bur[n] er> aww... konversationd didn't parse that as I'd hoped dhq, please go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnEdgy
[08:31] <sampan> piratehead  if you install the flac package in the repos you should be able to play flac files
[08:31] <bur[n] er> mhall53: of course... but just install kubuntu-desktop... I'm sure that's all you need
[08:31] <mhall53> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11077/
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> peyote: to get newer versions of the software you will need to upgrade to the next version of the distro, unless you run gentoo
[08:31] <jhutchins> PirateHead: If you read to the end of that post you'd see the free formats page listed as well.
[08:32] <eduard> jhutchins - ok, thks
[08:32] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: Not true.
[08:32] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: ubuntu backports packages regularly.
[08:32] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: For that matter so does Mandriva.
[08:32] <bur[n] er> mhall53: just install kubuntu-desktop, then go from there
[08:32] <peyote> TheGateKeeper: right now I am running debian/testing for the last years and applications get updated on a daily basis until there is a freeze short time before testing becomes stable.
[08:32] <mhall53> ok lol
[08:33] <TheGateKeeper> jhutchins: well I am running dapper I firefox 2 has NOT come along
[08:33] <BluesKaj> eduard, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=235
[08:33] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: That's because it's crap.  One package does not a distribution-wide generalization make.
[08:34] <PirateHead> jhutchins: the free formats page does not describe how to enable them -- it justs asks you to use them.
[08:34] <bur[n] er> peyote: there are also backports to the older distros which you can find
[08:34] <eduard> BluesKaj - many thanksssssssssss
[08:34] <bur[n] er> PirateHead: sorry bout that, i totally thought it showed hwo to use them ;)
[08:34] <BluesKaj> just google , eduard ...it works
[08:34] <TheGateKeeper> bur[n] er: manifestely untrue
[08:34] <yacoob> after proper configuring, klipper is nice thingy.
[08:34] <jhutchins> PirateHead: Sorry.  As someone else said, install the flac packages then.  apt-cache search flac
[08:34] <PirateHead> jhutchins: I *did* use a free format to encode my music library, and now Amarok can't play them. :-(
[08:34] <jhutchins> PirateHead: See also #amarok .
[08:34] <miltos> my hp psc 1410 printer is conncected to a "windows box" and i can't print with samba???anyone the samw problem???
[08:35] <sampan> piratehead  amarok plays flac files just fine -- you just need to install the flac package
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> jhutchins: name a default kubuntu package that has been upgraded?
[08:35] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: amarok.
[08:35] <jhutchins> Look in the backports repos.
[08:35] <PirateHead> sampan: I installed the flac package and restarted amarok, no effect. Do I need to reboot?
[08:35] <timster> :/
[08:35] <maan84> Hey, I'm trying to install a theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18223&forumpage=5 I followed the readme and made sure i have kde deb libs and qt etc installed, then configure make and make install worked fine as in the readme, now I just wonder how do I install it so I can change theme to it? :) ty
[08:35] <bur[n] er> PirateHead: did you try to install the 'flac' package?
[08:35] <sdlnxgk> anyone have issues with the Desktop Preview & Pager on the kicker bar??? mine just kills the kicker all together !!! but was working fine before installing new Nvidia drivers  for 3D
[08:35] <PirateHead> bur[n] er: here's the command I ran: "sudo apt-get install flac"
[08:36] <jhutchins> PirateHead: Shouldn't need to reboot, just kill & restart amarok.
[08:36] <eduard> BluesKaj - could you please help me chose which pakage i have to download? please
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> jhutchins: well I have 1.4.3 what do you have?
[08:36] <peyote> My question about updates was concerning the latest  release of kubuntu. And from what i understand now there is no freeze and applications get updated all the time, right?
[08:36] <sdlnxgk> !kaffeine
[08:36] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2160 kB, installed size 5868 kB
[08:36] <KiPSeRoN> !sources
[08:36] <jhutchins> 1.4.5
[08:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:36] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: 1.4.5
[08:36] <KiPSeRoN> !sources |kipseron
[08:36] <PirateHead> Well darnit, I did restart amarok, and it says "Error loading media: there is no available decoder"
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> jhutchins: what version of (k)ubuntu
[08:37] <sdlnxgk> PirateHead, in the same boat with kaffeine can't get audio or video to work...
[08:37] <bur[n] er> oh oh oh... i know!!!
[08:37] <jhutchins> edgy
[08:37] <bur[n] er> sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[08:37] <bur[n] er> sudo apt-get install kaffeine-xine
[08:37] <bur[n] er> :)
[08:37] <bur[n] er> xine > gstreamer
[08:37] <sdlnxgk> hmmmmmm I thought i had that installed
[08:37] <sampan> piratehead  what engine are you using in amarok?  (i use xine)
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> jhutchins: I rest my case I am running dapper which uses a lower version than you !!!
[08:38] <PirateHead> sampan: how do you tell? It didn't ask me which to use, and I never gave it a preference.
[08:38] <sdlnxgk> bur[n] er, it's all ready installed
[08:38] <sampan> piratehead  options -- engine
[08:38] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40291
[08:38] <bur[n] er> well crap... i'm out of ideas... i know it can be done though... mine works :)
[08:38] <sampan> piratehead  errr, settings -- configure --> engine
[08:38] <BluesKaj> eduard, what version of Kubuntu and what is your pc ?
[08:39] <bur[n] er> sdlnxgk: did you install w32codecs?  what type of video are you trying to play in kaffeine?
[08:39] <sdlnxgk> sampan I was running dapper but decided to move up in the world :D
[08:39] <PirateHead> Yes, according to the configuraton menu, I am using Xine.
[08:39] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: Just because you haven't figured it out doesn't make it the distro's fault.  You could ask for help instead of telling people they can't get updates.
[08:39] <sdlnxgk> bur[n] er, I couldn't get them installed
[08:39] <PirateHead> It is, in fact, the only option.
[08:39] <bur[n] er> sdlnxgk: try harder ;)
[08:39] <sdlnxgk> k
[08:39] <TheGateKeeper> jhutchins: point is it does NOT happen with the updates
[08:39] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: Yes it does.
[08:40] <maan84> Hey, I'm trying to install a theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18223&forumpage=5 I followed the readme and made sure i have kde deb libs and qt etc installed, then configure make and make install worked fine as in the readme, now I just wonder how do I install it so I can change theme to it? :) ty
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> jhutchins: NOPE!!
[08:40] <PirateHead> bur[n] er: the amarok-xine package is already installed, too.
[08:40] <sampan> piratehead  it might be the libflac7 package that you need then
[08:40] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: Perhaps not for some packages.  Sometimes they require enough of the system to be updated that it's not practical.
[08:40] <eduard> BluesKaj HP laptop Pawilon zd8000, kubuntu the last one Edgy Eft
[08:40] <sdlnxgk> !w32codecs
[08:40] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:40] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: Besides, there's nothing to keep you from backporting it yourself.
[08:40] <PirateHead> libflac7 is already the newest version, reports apt.
[08:41] <bur[n] er> sdlnxgk: did you try all the things on here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:41] <KiPSeRoN> !sources
[08:41] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:42] <sdlnxgk> bur[n] er, I had it all working before my Nvidia driver took a dump on me
[08:42] <crackhead_25> anyone know a plugin one can put with gimp to save as .pdf?
[08:42] <bur[n] er> nvidia should have nothing to do with videos
[08:42] <sdlnxgk> bur[n] er, will check out that page
[08:42] <sampan> piratehead  hrmmm ... strange
[08:42] <PirateHead> Interestingly, Gnome's Rhythmbox program plays the flac files just fine.
[08:42] <bur[n] er> crackhead_25: you could use the cups pdf printer and "print" it to a pdf file
[08:42] <sdlnxgk> bur[n] er, not sure what happened then because that is the only thing that changed
[08:42] <crackhead_25> yeah i just thought of that.. thanks
[08:43] <bur[n] er> PirateHead: try gstreamer with amarok ;)
[08:43] <TheGateKeeper> jhutchins: 'backporting yourself', in other words it does NOT automatically happen!!
[08:43] <PirateHead> bur[n] er: gstreamer isn't enabled as an option in the amarok configuration menu. How would I enable it?
[08:45] <crackhead_25> darn. it wont work. gimp wont read a .pdf with more than one page..? just shows up as one, the first, page.
[08:46] <XEL> Hola, alguien que hable espaol?
[08:46] <PirateHead> !es | XEL
[08:46] <ubotu> XEL: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:46] <bur[n] er> PirateHead: sudo apt-get install amarok-gstreamer
[08:47] <PirateHead> bur[n] er: there is no such package is amarok-gstreamer
[08:47] <PirateHead> bur[n] er: I checked.
[08:47] <crackhead_25> to dl okular, one has to type: "svn co <protocol>://<username>..." what is the protocol and username? Does anyone know?
[08:48] <BluesKaj> eduard , gaim-2.0.0beta6.tar.bz2
[08:48] <eduard> ls
[08:48] <eduard> ups, not here
[08:48] <mdtyke> Hey.. is there a partition manager in KDE?
[08:48] <SilentDis> hello :)
[08:49] <mdtyke> I currently have a partition which is NTFS, but I want to format it into ext3, and merge it with my / partition.  Is that possible?
[08:49] <eduard> use ReiserFS instead ext3
[08:49] <SilentDis> mdtyke: is the ntfs partition right next to the existing ext3 partition?
[08:49] <mdtyke> lemme check
[08:49] <crackhead_25> what does "svn co" mean in kde?
[08:49] <BluesKaj> mdtyke, why not install ntfs-3g ..access the ntfs partition from kubuntu
[08:49] <TheGateKeeper> PirateHead: gstreamer exists in dapper but from what I heard it was on it way out (as in not being supported anymore)
[08:50] <Ash-Fox> !ntfs
[08:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:50] <PirateHead> TheGateKeeper: that sucks for me.
[08:50] <SilentDis> BluesKaj: i assume he's looking to expand his / partition to allow more space.  might be a better idea to mount /home to it, depending on it's size.  that's why i'm trying to get more info :)
[08:50] <BluesKaj> ok
[08:50] <TheGateKeeper> PirateHead: can't you use xine?
[08:50] <crackhead_25> anyone know what "svn co" means in kde?
[08:51] <SilentDis> crackhead_25: not specifically, but svn is usually a refrence to a code repo for a project in the works, or 'nightly build' type of thing.
[08:52] <PirateHead> TheGateKeeper: I *am* using xine.
[08:52] <mdtyke> I can access the NTFS partition fine
[08:52] <mdtyke> And no, they aren't beside each other
[08:52] <mdtyke> But what I wanted to do, was to just move that partition to Linux
[08:52] <mdtyke> I had my music and some programs on it, on Vista.. but I dont use it anymore, so there's no need to
[08:52] <mdtyke> since I'm moving it all over to Linux
[08:52] <PirateHead> TheGateKeeper: It isn't playing my music files, and the folks in #amarok think that my xine version is too old.
[08:52] <PirateHead> Is there a way I can upgrade to a new version of xine?
[08:52] <SilentDis> mdtyke: i'd recommend, personally, just mounting it to a storage partition, or as /home, if it's large enough
[08:53] <KiPSeRoN> somone know why the respoties say 404 eror not found
[08:53] <KiPSeRoN> damn
[08:53] <TheGateKeeper> PirateHead: you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[08:53] <mdtyke> Well should I at least format it as ext3 or whatever
[08:53] <SilentDis> KiPSeRoN: what repo?
[08:53] <KiPSeRoN> all my repo fucked
[08:53] <SilentDis> mdtyke: not necessarily.  really depends on your use for it.
[08:53] <SilentDis> !language | KiPSeRoN
[08:53] <ubotu> KiPSeRoN: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:53] <BluesKaj> mdtyke, sounds like you want to migrate to linux exclusively , right ?
[08:53] <KiPSeRoN> sorry
[08:53] <mhall53> can someone message me good repositories
[08:53] <KiPSeRoN> all my repo destroyed
[08:53] <bur[n] er> mdtyke: i would format it ext3 :)  copy your data off first
[08:54] <crackhead_25> i found out the problem. i have to install the program svn.. ha..
[08:54] <KiPSeRoN> i have a 99 updates
[08:54] <SilentDis> mhall53: good repos for what?  what programs are you looking for?
[08:54] <KiPSeRoN> and i cant udapt it
[08:54] <KiPSeRoN> upadte it
[08:54] <SilentDis> KiPSeRoN: what version of ubuntu?
[08:54] <KiPSeRoN> kubuntu
[08:54] <KiPSeRoN> 6.10
[08:54] <mdtyke> What is this KeiserFS that guy was telling me about
[08:54] <mdtyke> And can you give me an idea where I format it in Linux
[08:54] <roland_> ReiserFS
[08:55] <SilentDis> !reiserfs | mdtyke
[08:55] <ubotu> mdtyke: reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[08:55] <PirateHead> mdtyke: you mean Reiserfs?
[08:55] <VividHazE> Hey I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction.  I've got a mobo with the nForce 6100 chipset for sound and networking. I've downloaded the right nForce drivers but I don't know what to do with the source, I'm using the 64-bit version.
[08:55] <mdtyke> ooh
[08:55] <mdtyke> ok
[08:55] <mdtyke> so I should go with ext3? :)
[08:55] <VividHazE> anyone know of a HOWTO on this subject?
[08:55] <Toran> Hey guys, how can I get rid of the format toolbar in kopete chat windows? I right-click on it, go to toolbars, and uncheck the "format toolbar" area, and it goes away, but as soon as I close the window and open another it comes back.
[08:55] <mdtyke> Now.. where do I format this thing? :P
[08:55] <bur[n] er> mdtyke: qtparted :)
[08:55] <PirateHead> mdtyke: ext3 and reiserfs are both good choices.
[08:55] <SilentDis> KiPSeRoN: are you at that computer right now?  can you browse webpages without issue?
[08:56] <BluesKaj> Reiser file systems aren't default in Ubuntu , ext is
[08:56] <bur[n] er> reiser is an accused murderer though, so we'll see if development continues
[08:56] <mdtyke> I guess it's yet another thing I have to download :P
[08:56] <KiPSeRoN> what
[08:56] <bur[n] er> ext3 can be read  byw indows :)  fs-driver.org
[08:56] <mdtyke> I swear, I'm never out of this repository lol
[08:56] <KiPSeRoN> only my repo
[08:56] <KiPSeRoN> not good
[08:56] <Toran> so, uh, how 'bout XFS?
[08:56] <Toran> (haha)
[08:56] <mdtyke> I don't suppose anybody knows where I can edit my Keyboard configuration?
[08:56] <Toran> I tried it once and my computer wouldn't boot
[08:56] <bur[n] er> mdtyke: system settings
[08:57] <SilentDis> KiPSeRoN: you stated that you were having problems pulling updates from a repository.  I'm trying to deduce the problem.  are you able to browse webpages?  are you at that machine chatting with us on IRC right now, or are you at a different computer?
[08:57] <mdtyke> I want to make ctrl+alt+3 do the pound sign, and ctrl+alt+4 do the euro
[08:57] <mdtyke> I mean actually.. edit it, as opposed to choosing custom
[08:57] <KiPSeRoN> yes
[08:57] <KiPSeRoN> yes
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> I remember hearing problems about reiser but can't remember what the problem was
[08:57] <KiPSeRoN> yes i am in this computer
[08:57] <BluesKaj> mdtyke, id you want to increase your linux partition or erase the ntfs , use the GParted live cd ..it's the best IMO
[08:57] <SilentDis> !who | KiPSeRoN
[08:57] <ubotu> KiPSeRoN: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[08:58] <KiPSeRoN> ok
[08:58] <SilentDis> KiPSeRoN: ok, you are at the computer you are having problems with.  are you able to browse webpages, using Konquerer or Firefox?
[08:58] <bur[n] er> mdtyke: BluesKaj: why would you just use the ubuntu or kubuntu cd and use gparted or qtparted on that respectively as opposed to downloading another distro?  ubuntu can do it
[08:58] <KiPSeRoN> SilentDis: yes i can
[08:58] <PirateHead> TheGateKeeper: libxine-extracodecs worked great.
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> PirateHead: cool :-) glad to hear it
[08:59] <PirateHead> I'm disappointed that it's not installed by default!
[08:59] <KiPSeRoN> try to install konversation
[08:59] <SilentDis> KiPSeRoN: ok.  And you are running Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) right?
[08:59] <KiPSeRoN> or akregator
[08:59] <KiPSeRoN> SilentDis: YES
[08:59] <BluesKaj> why install another distro , bur[n] er?
[08:59] <mdtyke> Can I not just install Gparted?
[08:59] <mdtyke> or is it on the Kubuntu Live CD?
[08:59] <bur[n] er> mdtyke: did you try "regional and language" in system settings?
[08:59] <BluesKaj> having a seperate cd for GParted is just safer
[08:59] <SilentDis> KiPSeRoN: I ask only because I'm trying to help.  try this command to update the list right quick, just to make sure nothing got corrupted.  in a term:  sudo aptitude update
[08:59] <Zhanev> hi
[08:59] <mdtyke> for what
[08:59] <Zhanev> i have a question, if someone can help me
[08:59] <mdtyke> I can customize by region there
[09:00] <mdtyke> I cant alter individual options.. not anywhere I can see anyway
[09:00] <SilentDis> !ask | Zhanev
[09:00] <ubotu> Zhanev: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:00] <KiPSeRoN> SilentDis: when i update it
[09:00] <BluesKaj> Zhanev, just ask
[09:00] <PirateHead> mdtyke: the Kubuntu LiveCD has QTParted, I think.
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> PirateHead: there are a number of things you have to do to get (k)ubuntu firing on ALL cylinders and that it just one of them
[09:00] <KiPSeRoN> SilentDis: i get a 404 erorn
[09:00] <KiPSeRoN> SilentDis: error
[09:00] <bur[n] er> mdtyke: i don't know crap about other languages so i wasn't sure if ctrl+alt+3 to do pound was part of another language
[09:00] <KiPSeRoN> SilentDis: and errors about gpg key
[09:00] <Zhanev> i bought a new fotocamera.  When I connect it to the USB directly, the system recognizes it and mounts it with no problem
[09:00] <mdtyke> ah.. nope
[09:00] <SilentDis> KiPSeRoN: what other changes have you made recently?
[09:00] <mdtyke> It's just that I live on an international border, so I use multiple currencies
[09:00] <bur[n] er> Zhanev: soo... cookie or medal?
[09:00] <Zhanev> but when i insert the SD card i bought into the camera... system says "unrecognised filesystem"
[09:01] <KiPSeRoN> nothing
[09:01] <mdtyke> in Windows, I used some tool to edit the keyboard configuration, and made my own thing.
[09:01] <KiPSeRoN> SilentDis:
[09:01] <mdtyke> I was just wondering how I do it in Linux
[09:01] <KiPSeRoN> SilentDis: i nned to go
[09:01] <KiPSeRoN> SilentDis: BYE
[09:01] <Zhanev> so the question is... what do i do with the 2Gb sd card?
[09:01] <SilentDis> KiPSeRoN: sorry i couldn't help you
[09:01] <KiPSeRoN> OK
[09:01] <Zhanev> what fs does it have?
[09:01] <bur[n] er> Zhanev: it could be an oddly formatted fat32.. you could try to reformat it with qtparted after copyng the data off of it
[09:02] <SilentDis> see ya all.  off to worky worky with me :)
[09:02] <crackhead_25> question: why can i not connect to "svn.kde.org" with my subversion installation on this kubuntu?
[09:02] <Zhanev> well.. i have no way to access the card from kubuntu
[09:02] <bur[n] er> Zhanev: you can copy it off when you plug the camera in correct?
[09:02] <Zhanev> no
[09:02] <Zhanev> "in correct" means that the camera has no card inserted
[09:02] <bur[n] er> so just copy it off... then put just hte sd in and disregard the filesystem error... run 'kdesu qtparted' and format the sd card
[09:02] <Zhanev> so i can only see the internal camera memory (no problem with that)
[09:03] <Zhanev> the problem is to access the SD card
[09:03] <bur[n] er> awwwwwwww... is there data on it?
[09:03] <Zhanev> nothing important
[09:03] <Zhanev> not now
[09:03] <bur[n] er> just put it in and run qtparted
[09:03] <bur[n] er> you have an sd card reader right?
[09:03] <fernando_> how can I copy the kde main menu ??? of put it in another computer with the same shutcuts???
[09:03] <Zhanev> yes but does not work
[09:03] <blue_> is there anyway to get voice chat to work on msn? with kopete?
[09:04] <Zhanev> i googled briefly and it seems it does not work for dapper
[09:04] <bur[n] er> Zhanev: if it shows bad filesystem, it may work
[09:04] <Zhanev> i would have to recompile the kernel and so
[09:04] <bur[n] er> oh bummer
[09:04] <bur[n] er> dist-upgrading to edgy is cool :)
[09:04] <fernando_> blue_: I read ones about plugin to speak with kopete, but I can't remember the name
[09:04] <bur[n] er> feisty will be out in a month, so it couldn't hurt to go to edgy now and feisty in a month
[09:04] <blue_> ah cool ty fernando_
[09:04] <fernando_> blue_ : anyway is was plugin to use a skype acount
[09:05] <Zhanev> well, it does not say "corrupted fs" but "unrecognised, non-ext3"
[09:05] <fernando_> blue_ : but you can install direct skype if you want.. I did't and is the best
[09:05] <blue_> nah its my gf has msn messenger so it has to work with that fernando_
[09:06] <fernando_> blue_: I'm not sure about it..sorry
[09:06] <BluesKaj> amsn maybe ?
[09:06] <bur[n] er> blue_; have you tried amsn?
[09:06] <bur[n] er> amsn can do audio
[09:07] <blue_> oo can it
[09:07] <BluesKaj> does windows msn do audio ?
[09:07] <BluesKaj> it's the same I think
[09:07] <Ash-Fox> No, messenger live and windows messenger do audio.
[09:07] <Ash-Fox> msn messenger doesn't do audio.
[09:08] <blue_> it does
[09:08] <blue_> ah yeah live messenger
[09:08] <Ash-Fox> Indeed, and they're even incompatible with each other!
[09:08] <BluesKaj> geezuz
[09:08] <hatta> crap has flavors now
[09:09] <bur[n] er> it'd be nice if gaim & kopete could do audio/video over jabber :\
[09:09] <Zhanev> so, the solution would be: 1. upgrade whole system 2. insert card in reader 3. mkfs the card ?
[09:09] <bur[n] er> c'est la vie
[09:09] <progek> I created a video with recordmydesktop and wanted to embed it in my web server. I used a encoder (ffmpeg2theora) to convert it into a .flv. Is that enough for embedding it directly into html? It does not seem to be working.
[09:09] <bur[n] er> Zhanev: i bet you could format the card without dist-upgrading is what I was saying
[09:09] <Zhanev> aha
[09:09] <bur[n] er> the card reader works in dapper i bet... i'm sure it's just a mass storage device
[09:09] <Zhanev> and... will the camera be able to read ext3?
[09:10] <bur[n] er> no
[09:10] <bur[n] er> ;)
[09:10] <bur[n] er> format it to fat32
[09:10] <Zhanev> aha
[09:10] <Zhanev> i'm a bit scared of breaking it
[09:10] <bur[n] er> can you format via the camera itself?
[09:10] <Zhanev> yes
[09:10] <bur[n] er> then no worries
[09:10] <Zhanev> i mean, the camera has a menu with a "format" option
[09:10] <bur[n] er> if it breaks, format it via the camera
[09:10] <Zhanev> ok
[09:11] <Zhanev> i'll try now
[09:11] <Zhanev> come back in a minute
[09:11] <bur[n] er> i'm not 100% this will work, but worth a shot
[09:11] <bur[n] er> good luck
[09:11] <Zhanev> thanks!
[09:11] <bur[n] er> np
[09:11] <marcus__> kde bindings for openoffice doesn't work with Kubuntu 7.04
[09:11] <marcus__> ?
[09:15] <crackhead_25> question: where is my "kde4 install directory"?
[09:16] <miltos> my hp psc 1410 printer is conncected to a "windows box" and i can't print with samba???anyone the samw problem???
[09:19] <BluesKaj> miltos , system settings/printers and run the cups wizard ...I had to fool with it for a bit but it finally worked for me
[09:19] <Tm_T> bunny: like to have some porkkana?
[09:20] <bur[n] er> miltos: i can print to my hp-psc 1209... try changing drivers?
[09:20] <bur[n] er> miltos: can you print to it via usb?
[09:21] <Tm_T> crackhead_25: depends where did you install it
[09:22] <crackhead_25> i dont know if i installed it?
[09:22] <siandog> hello word
[09:22] <crackhead_25> is it not default included with edgy?
[09:22] <Tm_T> crackhead_25: there's no KDE4 released ;)
[09:22] <Tm_T> !kde4
[09:22] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[09:23] <crackhead_25> is it going to eff my system up if i install it? im trying to use the latest release of okular, to see if i can type/enter text on a .pdf page (like the typewriter tool in windows acroread..)..
[09:24] <Tm_T> crackhead_25: well, as said, there's no "ready" kde4 yet, only snapshot releases for developers really
[09:24] <crackhead_25> Tm_T: how ready is it right now "not ready"?
[09:24] <Tm_T> crackhead_25: nothing to see for users, except lot of bugs and crashes
[09:25] <Tm_T> that ready
[09:25] <crackhead_25> sounds promising..
[09:25] <crackhead_25> so how can i use okular, or is there no way w/o kde4?
[09:25] <miltos> BluesKaj, i run cups wizard many times without success...
[09:26] <Tm_T> crackhead_25: no idea, you can compile it from svn or take one of snapshot builds ofcourse, but I can't promise it to be usable (it still might be at some level)
[09:27] <crackhead_25> i already took okular from svn, but in the process of compiling, i have to enter the "-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/path/to/your/kde4/install/dir ..".. what should i put there?
[09:28] <Daisuke_Ido> if you don't have kde4 installed, then i don't think you can
[09:28] <Tm_T> exactly
[09:28] <sdlnxgk> !Avi
[09:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:29] <crackhead_25> Daisuke_Ido: do you run kde4? is it easily uninstalled if things go wrong? can i get back my current kde install?
[09:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't run it, it's nowhere near ready for the end-user yet
[09:30] <encryption_ninja> anyone ahving problems with the kubuntuforums.com website?
[09:30] <encryption_ninja> it keeps logging me out,.
[09:31] <crackhead_25> Daisuke_Ido: do you know any program that will allow one to type text on a .pdf, as the typewriter tool does in windows acroread?
[09:34] <crackhead_25> does anyone know any program that will allow one to type text on a .pdf, as the typewriter tool does in windows acroread?
[09:34] <blekos> hi, i am in quite a need, i've installed feisty fawn 5 and my eth1 (wireless) is gone. I need to mention that i have a switch on my laptop on/off for wireless and this is now connected to bluetoth!! that is when i choose off, i actually turn off bluetooth
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't think there are.  is the feature available in the linux acrobat reader?
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i avoid acrobat for the most part, so i don't know
[09:36] <herk> crackhead: can you do it in Open Office Writer?
[09:36] <mhall53> does anyone know of the program automatix2
[09:38] <blekos> any ideas?
[09:38] <herk> Crackhead: there's also Foxit Pro with plugins . . .
[09:38] <herk> Foxit Pro: http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/
[09:38] <ubuntu_> do you know for a french chanel support for kubuntu?
[09:38] <eilker> mhall53> yes ?
[09:38] <mhall53> does it run on kubuntu
[09:39] <mhall53> !automatix2
[09:39] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:39] <eilker> yes it works well
[09:39] <mhall53> lol
[09:39] <mhall53> whats the command to install it
[09:40] <BluesKaj> !WorksForMe
[09:40] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:41] <deviance> Where do webcams apear in kopete?
[09:43] <eilker> mhall53> download it from its web site
[09:43] <eilker> !dcop
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <mhall53> i did
[09:44] <eilker> mhall53> alt+f2   // automatix
[09:44] <Ashex|Work> automatix2*
[09:45] <BluesKaj>  !warning automatix can work,but when it breaks pkges , you'll curse the day you installed it
[09:46] <mhall53> can i reinstall kubuntu off the dvd without having to download it to install
[09:46] <eilker>   i type // # !bin/sh  (then second line) sudo reboot // and chmod +x reboot.sh in console. after all double click to reboot.sh no sense ? what is wrong ?
[09:47] <Ashex|Work> eilker, use 'shutdown -r now'
[09:48] <wsjunior> Sup guys, one of the main things that i used to like about konqueror is that when i used to make a google search directly throught the search bar it used to be cleaned up after the research so i had the google page open and the search bar clean again. Why it doesn't happen in Kubuntu?
[09:49] <eilker> Ashex|Work> same again :(
[09:50] <superman> wsjunior: you know how to focus the search bar?  ctrl+k like I use in firefox doesn't work
[09:50] <wsjunior> Is there any way to configure this behaviour by hand or it's hardcoded?
[09:50] <Ashex|Work> eilker, try running it with sudo
[09:51] <superman> wsjunior: i didn't understand the question
[09:51] <wsjunior> superman: No, I mean that when you make a research using the bar, the bar used to be cleaned after the research
[09:51] <eilker> Ashex|Work> i am running it with sudo
[09:51] <mdtyke> Hey guys. I used the Kubuntu Live CD, and deleted my Ntfs partition, and created an ext3
[09:51] <Ash-Fox> For those of you who are having problems with Wine's official repository for edgy (bad dependency issues). I have fixed the package myself and uploaded it to my own repository, you can add my repository via: sudo bash -c 'echo deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/ >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:51] <mdtyke> I re-opened Qparted just to check.. everything was fine
[09:51] <superman> wsjunior: do you know how to focus it with a keyboard shortcut?
[09:52] <mdtyke> However, I'm now booted back into Kubuntu, and it still shows as ntfs, and when I try to mount it gives me an error saying it doesn't exist
[09:52] <Aattila> Hi! Is it possible to split into two part one of my partition without formating it?
[09:52] <mdtyke> Any ideas what's wrong
[09:52] <mhall53> what the command to install the apdet gui program
[09:52] <wsjunior> superman: Yes, CONTROL+S
[09:52] <superman> mdtyke: did you umount it before running the partitioning app?
[09:52] <Ashex|Work> eilker, I just tested it, and it is working for me
[09:52] <mdtyke> It wasn't mounted in the first place
[09:52] <mdtyke> the live CD doesn't mount
[09:52] <superman> thansk wsjunior :)  you've made my life soooooooooo much better
[09:53] <eilker> could you pls paste here your script ?
[09:53] <superman> mdtyke: sure you "applied" the changed?
[09:53] <gemidjy> anyone has idea what makes the wheel/middle click in linux to emulate copy/paste feature
[09:53] <superman> changes
[09:53] <mdtyke> Yep, positive
[09:53] <mdtyke> Even went back into Qtparted to check
[09:53] <eilker> Ashex|Work: could you pls paste here your script ? it is only two lines
[09:53] <mdtyke> I watched it go through the process etc
[09:53] <superman> mdtyke: next time after you're done formatting it, mount it, create a file just to make sure
[09:54] <mdtyke> I cant mount from the live CD though, can I?
[09:54] <wsjunior> I don't understand why this doesnt work in Kubuntu. This was one of the reasons that i liked to use Konqueror instead Firefox
[09:54] <Ashex|Work> eilker, I just messaged it to you
[09:54] <mdtyke> Yea I noticed that gemidjy, though it doesnt in Opera or Firefox for me anymore
[09:54] <mdtyke> I just changed the middle click settings
[09:54] <gemidjy> mdtyke: yes it does, for ages
[09:54] <superman> wsjunior: ctrl+s doesn't work here :(
[09:55] <mdtyke> But the fact is.. that my System Settings are still showing it as being ntfs
[09:55] <mdtyke> It's as if they're using cached data or something.. as it's ext3
[09:55] <wsjunior> superman: You can configure the shortcut
[09:55] <mdtyke> in actual fact, I'm pretty sure its cached info.. because one of the partitions its showing me doesnt even exist
[09:55] <mdtyke> It was showing me as having a 3kb partition, but I've removed it
[09:55] <wsjunior> superman: Settings -> Configure Shortcuts
[09:56] <eilker> Ashex|Work> i wanna execute it with double click from my desktop ? is it possible ?
[09:56] <Ashex|Work> eilker, use kdesu instead of sudo
[09:56] <Ashex|Work> eilker, that may work
[09:56] <mdtyke> What would hda4 - a 1kb partition be
[09:57] <Ashex|Work> I've gotta run, as I'm off work and have class in an hour
[09:57] <eilker> Ashex|Work> thanx
[09:57] <eilker> Ashex|Work> it is working
[09:57] <Ashex|Work> eilker, sweet deal
[09:57] <eilker> :)
[09:58] <deathplanter> how to set kmail it so if i close its window,it stays in background and has a tray icon?
[10:01] <mdtyke> Wait.. its come up now
[10:01] <wsjunior> deathplanter: Open KMail, go to Settings -> Configure KMail -> Appearance -> System tray
[10:02] <wsjunior> deathplanter: Enable it there
[10:03] <blekos_> hi, do you know any good disk manager (for cataloguing)?
[10:03] <pentarim> hi all
[10:04] <pentarim> does anyone know a repository where i could get php 5.1.2
[10:04] <pentarim> i am googling over 2 hours have  mercy :)
[10:04] <pentarim> its there a repo with older packages anywhere?
[10:07] <soulrider> hi everyone
[10:07] <soulrider> any c++ programmers here ?
[10:08] <mdtyke> Hmm, ok.. I got the partition enabled
[10:08] <mdtyke> But I can't figure out how to change it's permissions?
[10:08] <mdtyke> I've not got write access to it.. it's ext3
[10:09] <mdtyke> nm, got it
[10:11] <wrhowc> hello
[10:11] <wrhowc> greeting from slovenia
[10:12] <Derive[x] > buenas tardes.....
[10:13] <wsjunior> Please, I need some help with Konqueror :-P The Searchbar used to be cleaned up after some research but it isn't working in Kubuntu Feisty, I thought it would be just some preference setting but I couldn't find it here, maybe I'm just kinda blind. Is it possible to change something to get this behaviour back or it is hardcoded?
[10:13] <Aattila> does anybody know how to split up a partition leaving the data intact?
[10:14] <bxnp> yes Aattila
[10:14] <coreymon77> help
[10:14] <coreymon77> i really need help
[10:14] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: with what
[10:14] <coreymon77> something is messed up with x or with kde
[10:14] <bxnp> Aattila: that partition does that contain the root partition
[10:14] <coreymon77> i think it might actually be kdm thats messed
[10:15] <Aattila> bxnp: no it
[10:15] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: what error are you getting?
[10:15] <eilker> is it possible to use last fm in local languages  via amarok ?
[10:15] <Aattila> bxnp: it just contains the home
[10:15] <bxnp> oke, did you do a back up of the home dir
[10:15] <bxnp> becuase there is always a risk of losing data
[10:15] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: no error, i turn on my computer, everything seems fine, the log in screen shows up
[10:16] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: then what is the exact problem?
[10:16] <Aattila> unfortunatelly I cannot any space to make a backup
[10:16] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i type in my username/pass and press enter, and then my screen flicksers black a few times, and i am taken right back to the log in screen
[10:17] <coreymon77> same thing happens if i put session on failsage
[10:17] <coreymon77> safe*
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: yeah, something is wrong in your kdm.conf
[10:17] <bxnp> oh but could you not burn your most imporatant data to cd or dvd
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: your session isnt starting correctly
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: what changes have you made recently/
[10:17] <coreymon77> so right now, i am talking to you through irssi in a console log in
[10:17] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: no changes
[10:18] <mervteck> hey guys can someone help me with this tutorial im using to install wine on my 64 bit. i just need someone to let me knwo if i enter this exact command or if i eddit it
[10:18] <wrhowc> ok  um my  kubuntu does not detect my 1Gb usb key
[10:18] <bxnp> can you mount it manualy wrhowc
[10:18] <wrhowc> ok
[10:19] <wrhowc> but
[10:19] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: how do i fix it
[10:19] <Aattila> bxnp: the most important is written on cd but it would be great to keep others as well
[10:19] <wrhowc> use led show me that computer reads info from it
[10:19] <bxnp> oke
[10:19] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: preferably without loosing my data
[10:19] <bxnp> oke Aattila well the most easiest thing how to resize this partition is through the use of a kubuntu live cd
[10:20] <bxnp> and you have to use the program qtparted
[10:20] <bxnp> if you select the unmounted partition you can resize it
[10:20] <Aattila> bxnp: i tried it, but resize is not active
[10:20] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: paste your kdmrc in a pastebin, it should be in /etc/kde3/kdm
[10:20] <wrhowc> have to rst
[10:20] <bxnp> Aattila: strange
[10:20] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: and how exactly would i do that
[10:20] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin
[10:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: im console logged in right now
[10:21] <Aattila> bxnp: or is it mounted when i use live cd?
[10:21] <bxnp> no it should not be mounted
[10:21] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: in the console, type 'cat /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc' then paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.nl.org
[10:22] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: okay, umm, how do i switch out of irssi and back into console, and then hwo do i switch back
[10:22] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: hit ctrl-f1 or ctrl-f2 to switch to different consoles
[10:22] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: it goes up to ctrl-f6 and f7 is usually your GUI
[10:22] <hendaus> hiya
[10:23] <firephoto> wsjunior: the google search bar thing?
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: lol sorry, its alt, not ctrl
[10:23] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: can you tell me the command again
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: 'cat /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[10:23] <wsjunior> firephoto: What? Do you know how to solve?
[10:23] <bxnp> Aattila: if you right click on the partition you want to resize it does not shown the resize option its grayed out
[10:24] <hendaus> can anyone tell me how to install nokia suite on linux, coz i use it on windows before
[10:24] <firephoto> wsjunior: if that's what you mean, it's different in feisty. it's not the autocomplete one like is in edgy.
[10:24] <wsjunior> firephoto: I just would like it to be cleaned up after used.
[10:25] <firephoto> wsjunior: just the standard kde search one... so you mean clear the search history?
[10:25] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: oh, ya, i tried loading into an older kernel version to see if that helped, so right now im not in the kernel version i usually use
[10:25] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: is that a problem?
[10:25] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: should i switch back?
[10:25] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: you should switch back, so your kernel drivers for your video card are loaded
[10:25] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: okay, ill be right back
[10:26] <wsjunior> firephoto: No dude, just clean the damn Searchbar :/
[10:26] <hendaus> nobody has a request for me?
[10:26] <Aattila> bxnp: delete, flags and information are active only, but perhaps i try to umount the partition and then start the live cd
[10:27] <firephoto> wsjunior: lol, i'm sure i know what you mean but I guess I don't know what it being "clean" has to do with it. the looks?
[10:27] <wsjunior> firephoto: You make a search using it. It opens the page in one tab but doesnt clean the Searchbar to be used again. It used to.
[10:27] <firephoto> wsjunior: right, it's not the same search bar.
[10:28] <firephoto> wsjunior: it's just the standard one used by kde. the edgy one was something extra they added.
[10:28] <bxnp> no if you start from the live cd the hard disk partitons are not mounted Aattila
[10:28] <wsjunior> firephoto: No, it isnt just the way it looks like. It was perfect because I could use it again after the search without have to erase the previous search term.
[10:29] <wsjunior> firephoto: No, in one standard KDE it works. At least works here in other machine using KDE and Slackware.
[10:29] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: im back
[10:29] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: so, can you repeat the command once more?
[10:29] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: try this first man, go to a new console, and just type 'startx' and see what errors come up
[10:29] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: that will tell you if X is broken, or KDM is broken
[10:30] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: or not X, KDE i mean
[10:30] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: oh, something about cannot make temp here, no space left on device
[10:30] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: which is bs, because i just reinstalled
[10:31] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: weird, you do have free HD space right?
[10:31] <bxnp> Aattila: what kind of live cd do you use
[10:31] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: of course
[10:31] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i just reinstalled
[10:31] <todoesverso> sapnish
[10:31] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: so thats what it says when you run startx?
[10:31] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: then it gives me the typical "x is already running" errors
[10:31] <Aattila> bxnp: kubuntu 6.10
[10:31] <todoesverso> !espaol
[10:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:32] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: try typing 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop' first
[10:36] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: running that command caused my computer to show a black screen with a cursor at the top and stay like that
[10:36] <superman> coreymon77: try restarting kdm again
[10:36] <superman> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:36] <superman> from a term... ctrl+alt+f1
[10:36] <superman> that restarts X
[10:36] <blekos_> could u  recomend a backup soft apart from keep?
[10:37] <coreymon77> superman: i had to restart my computer
[10:37] <c0nv1ct> superman: we are trying to stop KDM
[10:37] <superman> blekos_: sbackup
[10:37] <superman> c0nv1ct: oh... why?
[10:37] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: to get back to the console, hit CTRL-ALT-F1
[10:37] <neptunepink> what is the name of the program that lets you switch keyboard layouts?
[10:37] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i restarted
[10:37] <c0nv1ct> superman: when he logs in using KDM, X crashes and kicks him back to KDM
[10:37] <superman> i doubt it's a KDM issue
[10:37] <maan84> Hey, I'm trying to install a theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18223&forumpage=5 I followed the readme and made sure i have kde dev libs and qt etc installed, then configure make and make install worked fine as in the readme said install from source, now I just wonder how do I install it so I can change theme to it? Im using KDE :) ty for any help
[10:38] <c0nv1ct> superman: i know, thats why i'm having him run 'startx' to see the errors
[10:38] <jarle> blekos_: rsync
[10:38] <superman> i bet it's a ~/.hiddenfilesofconfigurationarecorrupt issue
[10:38] <superman> u can see the errors without doing that ;)
[10:38] <superman> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:38] <coreymon77> its giving me "no space left on device" errors even though there is definitely space on my drive
[10:38] <bxnp> Aattila: you could umount your home directory as root and run qtparted and try if it works
[10:39] <bxnp> you dont have to use the live cd since the home is on a different partition
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: and you havent made any changes since it worked? didnt install anything at all?
[10:39] <bxnp> you have qtparted on your system if you run 6.10
[10:39] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: dont think so
[10:40] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i installed ut2k4 on windoze, but that wouldnt make a difference
[10:40] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: paste the output of 'df -H' to the pastebin
[10:40] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: how do i get to the pastebin, i doubt firefox works in this mode
[10:40] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: yeah firefox wont work, you can use Lynx
[10:40] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: and how do i copy and paste things while in a console login
[10:40] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: which i doubt is installed by default
[10:41] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: well, it wont be easy, i dunno if its worth it
[10:41] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: just type 'df -H' and make sure there is free space
[10:41] <Aattila> bxnp: ok, i try it
[10:41] <coreymon77> will it give me a lot of text?
[10:42] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: or just a bit
[10:42] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: not much, like 10 lines or less
[10:42] <bxnp> make sure you have a terminal open as root
[10:42] <bxnp> and then umount /home
[10:42] <bxnp> and as last run qtparted and see if it works Aattila
[10:43] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: wow, its true, there is no more space left on my dirve
[10:43] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i dont know how
[10:43] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: when you reinstalled, did you partition it correctly?
[10:43] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i did the default
[10:43] <real> hi, i just installed kubuntu, when i go to the wireless assistant, there is a WEP Conf where it ask me for the WEP KEY , but im behind a linksys and i use WPA Personal, what can i do to connect to WPA Personal?
[10:43] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: how much space is being used? whats the total?
[10:44] <bxnp> rea do thi s
[10:44] <bxnp> apt-get install knetworkmanager
[10:44] <coreymon77> size is 19gb used is 18gb, but avail is 0 and use% is 100%
[10:44] <bxnp> real wireless assistant can not use wpa
[10:44] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: whoa, 18gb? for a fresh install??
[10:44] <real> bxnp: installing =)
[10:45] <bxnp> good real, let me now if it works
[10:45] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: not fresh, but quite recent
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: yeah, it looks like you need to add some space
[10:45] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: impossible
[10:45] <real> ok bxnp thxs =)
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: how do you have it partitioned? just 1 for / and one for swap?
[10:45] <bxnp> what is it working real
[10:45] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: its taking up the whole drive
[10:46] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: the only other space i got is on a seperate drive
[10:46] <Aattila> bxnp: it says it is used, i can't umount
[10:46] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: if you have free space on that other drive, you can use it if ya want
[10:46] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: how, its my windoze drive
[10:46] <bxnp> i yes ofcourse in that case you have to use the live cd
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: you'd have to shrink your windows partition :\
[10:47] <bxnp> and then look if its mounted
[10:47] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: but its on a seperate drive, how could that help anything
[10:47] <CaBlGuY> ok, how do I whats the command for un-installing Rythembox??
[10:47] <BS_> Help. Have kubuntu in vmware player. Upgraded vmware player, and now no network. Going to system settings / network settings shows no device. vmware tools is running. Where do I go to see if hardware is present / why it does not show up in ifconfig? Thanks.
[10:47] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i cant add that to the partition
[10:47] <CaBlGuY> err...   whithout the how do i..  :p
[10:47] <bxnp> however i see some strange readings via google, that more people have problems resizing ext3 partitions with qtparted
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: no but you can move something there, like your /home directory
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: and then mount that as /home
[10:48] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i dont really know how
[10:48] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: its a bit of work to add a partition like that, but you definately need more than 20gb the way you are going
[10:49] <CaBlGuY> anyone??  removal of Rythmbox..?
[10:49] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i dont get it, ive been using kubuntu for 2 years and never had this problem
[10:49] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: use 'du --si /home' then try it on a few other root folders and see what is using up all the space
[10:49] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: i juswt reinstalled recently because of a superblock corruption
[10:49] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: and then i got this error
[10:50] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: how do i search for something
[10:50] <neptunepink> how do I change keyboard layouts in X?
[10:50] <Aattila> bxnp: thanks for your help, i go back to live cd, if it doesn't work i'll format it
[10:50] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: how do i search my drive for things matching a keyword
[10:50] <bxnp> oke goodluck Aattila
[10:50] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: 'du --si /home' will tell you how much the /home folder is using
[10:50] <bxnp> real is it working
[10:50] <hatta> krusader has a very nice disk usage tool
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: your entire HDD? or do you know what general area it is in?
[10:51] <Sanne> neptunepink: in system settings there's a tool for that.
[10:51] <neptunepink> coreymon77: for searching just the file names, you can use find | grep KEYWORD . .
[10:51] <real> bxnp: i just apt-get but when i click to open it nothing opens
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: you can do 'find / | grep filename' but that will take a while
[10:51] <bxnp> look in your taskbar
[10:51] <bxnp> in systray
[10:51] <neptunepink> coreymon77: or maybe locate filename, too
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: it helps if you know its in /home or /etc, then search that folder
[10:52] <real> bxnp: there it is.. let me try
[10:52] <neptunepink> bxnp+Sanne: I'm running from failsafe because kde is too fat :b
[10:52] <bxnp> real: you should see the wifi networks
[10:52] <Sanne> neptunepink: ah hehe. There's a command line tool which name escapes me right now...
[10:53] <neptunepink> Sanne: does it start with an x?
[10:53] <Sanne> neptunepink: I suspect it does, and if I remember correctly, it is so.
[10:53] <bxnp> hi Sanne, you are running frailsafe now
[10:53] <_redondos> hi
[10:54] <bxnp> i mean neptunepink you are running failsafe
[10:54] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: how can i remove a directory
[10:54] <coreymon77> ?
[10:54] <sheriffff> hello
[10:54] <bxnp> coreymon77: you can move a direcotry with the mv command
[10:54] <neptunepink> coreymon77: rmdir
[10:54] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: use rm -rf if the directory is full
[10:54] <bxnp> for example mv /home/xnp/blah /home/xnp/documents/newblah
[10:54] <coreymon77> no
[10:55] <coreymon77> i want to delete an entire folder, that has stuff in it
[10:55] <bxnp> oh remove
[10:55] <bxnp> rm -rf dircorty
[10:55] <bxnp> directory
[10:55] <sheriffff> I'm running win98 with qemu. It works well, but the system doesn't regonize the cdrom...Do you know why???
[10:55] <bxnp> so rm -rf /home/xnp/remove
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: you find whats taking up all the space?
[10:55] <bxnp> the r stands for recursive and the f is forece
[10:55] <bxnp> force coreymon77
[10:55] <sheriffff> I'm running win98 with qemu. It works well, but the system doesn't regonize the cdrom...Do you know why???
[10:56] <neptunepink> sheriffff: I think you need to add something like  -hdc /dev/hd  to the options
[10:56] <sheriffff> yes..., but I couldn't find what command. ....
[10:56] <sheriffff> -hdc .. ???
[10:56] <neptunepink> sheriffff: * -hdc /dev/hdc
[10:56] <neptunepink> yes
[10:56] <sheriffff> it adds cdrom ?
[10:56] <sheriffff> where it says it
[10:56] <neptunepink> the cdrom device...
[10:56] <real_> bxnp: connected
[10:56] <real_> thxs =)
[10:56] <sheriffff> ahh
[10:57] <sheriffff> I will try ...
[10:57] <bxnp> Cool, real :)
[10:57] <sheriffff> qemu -hda qemu-winxp.img -m 256 -boot c -hdc /dev/hdc
[10:58] <coreymon77> how do i empty my trash
[10:58] <jarle> Can anybody suggest a program that will lett you browse your movie-clips by looking at screens from the movie, not only one frame like konqueror will show?
[10:58] <sheriffff> qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/hdc'
[10:58] <neptunepink> sheriffff: maybe if you put -hdc /dev/hdc before -hda ?
[10:58] <sheriffff> well
[10:59] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: do you know how to empty my trash in console login
[10:59] <sheriffff> no
[10:59] <c0nv1ct> coreymon77: you shouldnt need to, if you used the rm command
[10:59] <atidem> hello!
[10:59] <sheriffff> it says that it isn't an image
[10:59] <sheriffff> and its true ...
[10:59] <sheriffff> hda, hdc <image>
[10:59] <sheriffff> is for loading an image ...
[10:59] <sheriffff> but there must be a command
[10:59] <sheriffff> to enable cdrom ...
[10:59] <sheriffff> but hdb isn't cdrom
[11:00] <sheriffff> it's not /dev/cdrom ???
[11:00] <Iwonder|too|NotH> 5|-|3|ffff:  \/\/|-|47 43 7y||\|9 70 |)0?
[11:00] <neptunepink> sheriffff: symlinks are for the weak :b
[11:00] <sheriffff> ahh
[11:00] <sheriffff> ja
[11:00] <sheriffff> but now
[11:00] <sheriffff> how do I enable it
[11:01] <neptunepink> no, actually, symlink are very manly!
[11:02] <sheriffff> ???
[11:02] <neptunepink> sheriffff: what's the line you're using?
[11:02] <eilker> is it possible to show what i listen to in amarok,  as personal message in kopete ?
[11:02] <sheriffff> qemu -hda qemu-winxp.img -m 256 -boot c
[11:02] <sheriffff> that ?
[11:02] <ubuntu_> hello everyone
[11:02] <bxnp> hi ubuntu_ on a live cd
[11:03] <ubuntu_> im in need o f repsotories
[11:03] <neptunepink> did you do  qemu -hda qemu-winxp.img -hdc /dev/hdc -m 256 -boot c  ?
[11:04] <sheriffff> qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/hdc'
[11:04] <sheriffff> mm..
[11:04] <neptunepink> sudo?
[11:04] <ubuntu_> any idea where i can get a good list from
[11:04] <sheriffff> yes
[11:04] <sheriffff> if I make an image of hdc
[11:04] <sheriffff> or cdrom ?
[11:04] <KoKoOneR> hi
[11:04] <KoKoOneR> i have a problem
[11:04] <sheriffff> have I got to do an image for the cdrom drive ??
[11:05] <neptunepink> #sheriffff: then it would be -hdc /path/to/iso_thing
[11:05] <Sanne> !easysource | ubuntu_
[11:05] <ubotu> ubuntu_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:05] <KoKoOneR> i cant install my graphic card ATI
[11:05] <neptunepink> sheriffff: no, you shouldn't. And i've been using bash too much...
[11:05] <sheriffff> yes ...
[11:05] <sheriffff> ahhh
[11:05] <Sanne> ubuntu_: may help
[11:05] <sheriffff> ok
[11:05] <coreymon77> okay, how do i check how much space is being used on my hd?
[11:05] <sheriffff> have you used vmware ...
[11:05] <ubuntu_> ok thx do u use it
[11:05] <neptunepink> sheriffff: no, haven't touched it
[11:05] <sheriffff> you could boot with cdrom ???
[11:05] <sheriffff> ahhhh
[11:05] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: you still there?
[11:05] <sheriffff> ok
[11:05] <ubuntu_> i just want a list in adpet that if i want to install something it iwll be there
[11:05] <sheriffff> I'll find the problema
[11:06] <KoKoOneR> i download the driver
[11:06] <Sanne> ubuntu_: I didn't need to yet, but check it out, it just tells you what you can put in your /etc/apt/sources.list, if you want.
[11:06] <KoKoOneR> i try install
[11:06] <KoKoOneR> i need help!
[11:07] <coreymon77> c0nv1ct: okay, good, im not getting no space on device errors anymore
[11:07] <ubuntu_> do ithave multi and universe
[11:07] <KoKoOneR> help me!!
[11:09] <Sanne> ubuntu_: yes, if you just stay with the two default repositories checked, it generates universe and multiverse. But really, just check it out. It doesn't change anything on your system, you have to do it yourself anyway.
[11:10] <ubuntu_> yes i kno how to do it, i just want a full list of software
[11:10] <ubuntu_> where if i want somethin its more then likly on the list
[11:12] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know why, when i open my system settings, print management, and try to use cups, cups hangs and doesn't load?
[11:13] <chijin> are there any known sata driver issues in edgy?
[11:13] <c0nv1ct> some are not supported by the kernel
[11:13] <chijin> my sata drive is corrupting
[11:14] <chijin> it doesn't happen in windows as far as i know
[11:14] <c0nv1ct> the data is getting corrupted in linux?
[11:14] <chijin> yes
[11:15] <c0nv1ct> is fsck able to fix anything?
[11:15] <chijin> first dpkg's status file goes all nuts
[11:15] <chijin> not really
[11:15] <chijin> after running ubuntu for a day, i can't even boot anymore
[11:15] <chijin> i checked the hdd in another machine and it's fine
[11:15] <ubuntu_> whats dose suse use to set up grub
[11:16] <c0nv1ct> i'd assume yast
[11:16] <ubuntu_> i want my boot loader to look like that
[11:16] <c0nv1ct> you can change the background if you want
[11:16] <ubuntu_> yea i kno but its still ugly
[11:17] <c0nv1ct> i dont even have mine show unless i hit esc, so i rarely see the uglyness
[11:17] <chijin> heh i ignored all the joins and quits, much better now :-P
[11:17] <makuseru> is there anyway to kill the program that draws the background, but not the icons? or are they the same program?
[11:17] <ubuntu_> i use windows im moving to linux slowly
[11:18] <bxnp> why do you want to do that makuseru
[11:18] <neptunepink> makuseru: they are the same
[11:19] <makuseru> bxnp: because to use the wallpaper plugin in beryl i have to kill the program that draws the background, kdesktop also draws icons apparently, so when i kill it my icons go bye bye
[11:19] <c0nv1ct> makuseru: weird, i dont have to do that
[11:20] <bxnp> oke well for beryl related things there is #ubuntu-effects
[11:20] <makuseru> it wasnt beryl related now was it?
[11:20] <makuseru> no
[11:20] <ubuntu_> everyone talks about beryl what is it
[11:20] <c0nv1ct> if you are killing it for beryl to work, yes it is related
[11:20] <makuseru> c0nv1ct: when you enable the wallpeper plugin it automatically works?
[11:20] <bxnp> maybe they have a solution for you wallpaper thing
[11:20] <c0nv1ct> yep
[11:20] <makuseru> but it wasnt directly related to beryk
[11:20] <makuseru> beryl*
[11:21] <makuseru> thats weird, on mine i have to kill kdesktop for it to work
[11:21] <bxnp> i am talking about a solution, for your problem
[11:21] <pollyo> Hello
[11:21] <makuseru> bxnp: what?
[11:21] <bxnp> maybe there is a different plugin or a different version etc etc
[11:21] <pollyo> Anyone know how to add mp3 support to Amarok?
[11:21] <bxnp> try it out makuseru you never know
[11:21] <c0nv1ct> !codecs | polly
[11:21] <ubotu> polly: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:21] <makuseru> how is that a solution?
[11:22] <makuseru> ive used ever version since it was added to beryl
[11:22] <SilentM> When you first try to play an MP3 file it'll ask you if you want to enable MP3 support...
[11:22] <LjL> !mp3 > pollyo    (pollyo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:22] <LjL> and if that doesn't work (never tried), just follow the guide
[11:22] <pollyo> SilentM: It appears to lock up at that point.
[11:22] <bxnp> maybe you find someone on the ubuntu-effects channel wich have a solution for you problem
[11:22] <SilentM> Ah, never had that happen to me.
[11:22] <pollyo> Ljl: Thaks.
[11:22] <bxnp> sight, anyway i dont care find it out for yourself, since you are reluctant to accept any idea's
[11:33] <amayera> hi
[11:33] <amayera> what would you propose as secure md5-replacement for creating hashs?
[11:33] <makuseru> how do i fix the problem of flash objects in webpages being ontop of everything else
[11:34] <maan84> Hello, I wrote a short post about my problem here http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3080963.0 could anyone have a look and maybe give me some help? Much appriciated
[11:35] <lontra> maan84: lipstik is available in the kubuntu repositories
[11:36] <lontra> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=lipstik&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[11:37] <Hasrat_USA> lipstik? what's that?
[11:37] <Hasrat_USA> isn't that for women?
[11:37] <c0nv1ct> maan84: lipstik is in the repos, install it that way
[11:37] <c0nv1ct> maan84: search for lipstik in Adept, its in there
[11:38] <lontra> at a terminal:  sudo apt-get install kde-style-lipstick
[11:38] <maan84> c0nv1ct: ah ok thank you
[11:38] <maan84> and lontra thank you also, ill try that
[11:39] <lontra> maan84: check out polyester...it's nice
[11:39] <lontra> in my opinion it's the best kde-style out there
[11:39] <lontra> and default in feisty
[11:39] <Hasrat_USA> what's a KDE-style?
[11:39] <Daisuke_Ido> a style for kde
[11:39] <c0nv1ct> Daisuke_Ido: lol
[11:40] <lontra> Hasrat_USA: it's what effects your buttons, scrollbars, etc...
[11:40] <Daisuke_Ido> window decorations and such
[11:40] <lontra> window decorations are just for the windows though...they don't affect scrollbars, etc.
[11:40] <maan84> Can I do sudo apt-get install kde-style-polyester to obtain it also?
[11:40] <Daisuke_Ido> that's true
[11:40] <lontra> just the borders
[11:40] <Hasrat_USA> oh but you can't mix those styles with Beryl's window decoration themes if you are running Beryl, can ya?
[11:40] <lontra> maan84: yes..i believe so
[11:40] <lontra> maan84: it's certain there
[11:40] <lontra> in ubuntu that is
[11:41] <bxnp> maan84: http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/q1.png check out and if you like that use qtcurve
[11:41] <Daisuke_Ido> Hasrat_USA: you can, use aquamarine instead of emerald for your window decorator, and i don't think beryl affects the actual styles
[11:41] <lontra> yeah qtcurve is nice too
[11:42] <maan84> That also looks very nice :) Hard to choose =P Just reinstalled kubuntu, think I have to add extra repositories to find the themes from apt?
[11:42] <bxnp> yeah i love it, lonr
[11:42] <Hasrat_USA> reinstalled? why?
[11:42] <dromer> can someone help me change the default theme for phpsysinfo? I kind of forgot (and can't find) how to do it :#
[11:42] <BluesKaj> you can import schemes in system settings  appearances
[11:43] <maan84> Well had a partion using ntfs and wanted it to be ext3, found it easier to reinstall everything than convert it to ext3 since I'm new
[11:43] <ubuntu_> hey im having trouble mounting
[11:43] <ubuntu_> partitions and a drive
[11:44] <c0nv1ct> whats the error ubuntu_
[11:44] <ubuntu_> hold on everything i try and install kubuntu i get a message saying the mounting of bla bla failed then the program closes after i click continue
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> maan84: i had that problem...  i copied everything from that partition to others, blew the ntfs partition away and formatted it, then copied back over
[11:45] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu_ the "bla bla" part is important to know
[11:45] <lontra> maan84: yeah...maybe multiverse and universe
[11:45] <Hasrat_USA> NTFS is an weak, unstable, unreliable and unsecure file system
[11:46] <maan84> That was my plan, but tried to figure out how to format it and make it ext3 on my own, and somehow I got into too much trouble to sort it out, so reinstalled everything, now it feels nice :)
[11:46] <Daisuke_Ido> it's more secure than vfat :D
[11:46] <Daisuke_Ido> (as far as that goes, of course)
[11:46] <ari> hello !!!
[11:47] <jhutchins> c0nv1ct: I'd guess if he's getting a mount error he's trying to install from the CD.
[11:48] <ubuntu_> ok im on the prepart mount points screen
[11:48] <c0nv1ct> jhutchins: or mounting of the FS its being installed on
[11:50] <jhutchins> c0nv1ct: Do you suppose he's installing it from a live CD?
[11:50] <c0nv1ct> arent they all Live CDs?
[11:51] <jhutchins> Oh, yeah.  I thought he was adding programs.  I think he's doing a regular install.
[11:51] <c0nv1ct> i havent seen a *ubuntu install CD that didnt boot up into a live X session
[11:51] <ari> i installed a lamp on my computer to make a few php tests but my browser keep asking me if i want to download the file i'm trying to open. how can i fix that !?!
[11:51] <jhutchins> c0nv1ct: I guesss the alt CD doesn't.
[11:51] <c0nv1ct> jhutchins: i installed from that, and it was a live session
[11:51] <jhutchins> ari: You have to configure apache to use the correct mime type.
[11:52] <pollyo> Hello
[11:52] <jhutchins> Usually there's a php config file in one of the /etc/http/config directories.
[11:52] <pollyo> Does Linux have an established area for installing applications (Like Program Files in windows)?
[11:52] <jhutchins> ari: You may just need to restart apache to load it.
[11:53] <ari> i tried that lots of times.
[11:53] <c0nv1ct> pollyo: usually its in /usr
[11:53] <jhutchins> pollyo: There is a convention defined by the Linux File Hierarchy standard.  Depends on what part of what program.
[11:53] <jhutchins> pollyo: If you stick with deb's it's not an issue.
[11:53] <pollyo> jhutchins: I see.
[11:54] <ari> every person i'm asking about this tells me to restart apache, i usually do it and hope this time it'll work but it doesn't so i guess my problem might be a little unusual...
[11:54] <DisabledDuck> what is a good dvd player for KDE?
[11:54] <andre_> !nvidia
[11:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:55] <jhutchins> ari:
[11:55] <jhutchins> grep php /etc/httpd/conf/mime.types
[11:55] <jhutchins> application/x-php               php php3 php4
[11:55] <pollyo> Anyone use Realplayer 10 for linux?
[11:55] <Tm_T> DisabledDuck: kaffeine, kmplayer, mplayer, <your favourite>
[11:55] <ari> jhutchins: is the file supposed to exist already !?!
[11:55] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know why cups keeps hanging and won't let me either log in as admin or let me add a new printer? everytime i try, it just hangs..
[11:55] <DisabledDuck> Tm_T: so far all the programs i've used won't play the DVD...
[11:56] <BluesKaj> !KDE-Themes
[11:56] <Tm_T> DisabledDuck: well, krhm!
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-themes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <Tm_T> !dvd
[11:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:56] <maan84> lontra: I did http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories then when I try to get the package it says Couldn't find package kde-style-lipstick :/
[11:56] <Tm_T> DisabledDuck: look that last ubotu line(s)
[11:56] <jhutchins> ari: You do have mod-php installed, right?
[11:57] <lontra> maan84: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file at pastebin.ca  also did you run sudo apt-get update after you edited sources.list?
[11:58] <lontra> maan84: also i believe it's call kde-style-lipstik not lipstick
[11:59] <ari> jhutchins: which version of mod-php?
[12:00] <maan84> lontra: lol changed to lipstik and it worked *^-^
[12:00] <lontra> good :)
[12:05] <kakarotto> hola
[12:05] <DisabledDuck> what is gstreamer?
[12:05] <kakarotto> necesito ayuda
[12:06] <ari> kakarotto: pienso que hay canales para ayuda en espanol
[12:06] <BluesKaj> !es
[12:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:06] <kakarotto> how i can play mp3 , what is the library
[12:07] <skogen> ! no
[12:07] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[12:07] <intelikey> hey i'm looking for a way to take cda tracks and make .ogg files out of them in one step   any thoughts ?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> !amarok | kakarotto
[12:07] <ubotu> kakarotto: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[12:07] <apol> kakarotto: libxine-extracodecs
[12:07] <kakarotto> :o thanks
[12:10] <makuseru> how do i fix the problem of flash objects in webpages being ontop of everything else?
[12:11] <intelikey> i don't know how you fix it, i fix it by not using flash
[12:11] <apol> makuseru: this is a flash drawback, flash is drawn drawback
[12:11] <makuseru> so there is no way to fix it?
[12:12] <apol> intelikey: don't use flash ;)
[12:12] <makuseru> if you dont use flash what else caould you use to disply flash objects in a page
[12:13] <intelikey> why would i want to display flash opbects if i don't like/use flash ?
[12:14] <intelikey> i don't think i have ever been to more than three pages that required flash for me to get what i wanted out of the page...