[12:01] <Fredle> I'm not a desktopgeek
[12:01] <linxeh> l90bpm: so you need a 32bit version of ubuntu
[12:01] <IgorSobreira> anybody could give a good sources.list ???
[12:01] <preaction> !easysource | IgorSobreira
[12:01] <l90bpm> but this is the 3rd package I have had to use the 64 bit packages on
[12:01] <ubotu> IgorSobreira: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:01] <Berzerke1> When I try to boot Ubuntu I get an error: "X could not start"
[12:01] <linxeh> l90bpm: eh?
[12:01] <l90bpm> yeah, beats me
[12:01] <Berzerke1> "no screens found"
[12:02] <Fredle> Berzerke1, check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:02] <Berzerke1> how do I get into tit
[12:02] <ThinkingMan> eck, well I've got it mounting from fstab now, I'm wondering if a reboot will re-generate the places menu, if it doesn't I'll manually drag the mount point over
[12:02] <linxeh> l90bpm: what version of ubuntu did you install, and where are you getting the packages from ?
[12:02] <Berzerke1> it*
[12:02] <mateuszk> Jo
[12:02] <mateuszk> Jo
[12:02] <mateuszk> Hi
[12:02] <Xteven> does anyone have a working libpam-encfs setup ? mine just won't work
[12:02] <Heroin01> can someone help me reset my MSQL password?
[12:02] <mateuszk> Can I install xorg-core from ubuntu on debian?
[12:02] <Fredle> Berzerke1, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:02] <cac_> when is ubuntu 7 final release out?
[12:02] <ThinkingMan> think I'm done for now, so thanks eck, Fredle
[12:02] <Berzerke1> but there's nowhere where I can type that
[12:02] <l90bpm> 6.06 ship it that I upgraded to eft today
[12:02] <Lord_Illidan> April 19
[12:02] <Berzerke1> doesn't even give me a command line
[12:03] <oscar> Hello. I am not sure If I am in the right place... Somebody can help me with this. A problem begin to happen with ntfs-3g and fuse-utils. I delete ntfs-rg with synaptic. But the problem with fuse continue.. When I try to install something always at the end appear this message ... creating fuse device node...
[12:03] <oscar> /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "fuse"
[12:03] <oscar> dpkG: error processing fuse-utils (--install):
[12:03] <oscar> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:03] <Flannel> Berzerke1: ctrl-alt-f1 to get to terminal
[12:03] <GenNMX> mateuszk: google sarge backports
[12:03] <Berzerke1> ok
[12:03] <Berzerke1> and what do I do when I type the command in
[12:03] <Fredle> Berzerke1, cntrl-ald-F1
[12:03] <Fredle> read the manual ^^
[12:03] <mateuszk> GenNMX, I need xorg-core 7.2
[12:03] <mateuszk> GenNMX, debian's experimentals is broken
[12:03] <Berzerke1> it's going to be self explanitory when I do that?
[12:03] <linxeh> l90bpm: ok, and you installed the 32bit version, and used the 32bit edgy repositories ?
[12:04] <Fredle> Berzerke1, yes, it was for me
[12:04] <oscar> creating fuse device node...
[12:04] <oscar> /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "fuse"
[12:04] <oscar> dpkG: error processing fuse-utils (--install):
[12:04] <oscar> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:04] <cafuego_> Why don't you get help on #debian?
[12:04] <GenNMX> mateuszk: sarge is stable, etch is testing. sarge backports are from etch fitting certain criteria
[12:04] <eck> oscar: did you load the fuse kernel module?
[12:04] <Fredle> Berzerke1, but you might need to check the ubuntu wiki
[12:04] <Xteven> ok this is driving me nuts
[12:04] <Berzerke1> for what
[12:04] <mateuszk> GenNMX, I am using sid
[12:05] <l90bpm> somewhere along the way I must have installed the wronf one..  will work on it a bit and see whats up
[12:05] <Fredle> Berzerke1, it's allways a nice thing to read the wiki
[12:05] <GenNMX> Ewww
[12:05] <linxeh> l90bpm: check the repositories are correct
[12:05] <Xteven> if not here, where can I go for a problem with libpam-encfs in ubuntu ?
[12:05] <dragonriot> any suggestions on what I should do with this problem?? http://rafb.net/p/zSwsnE82.txt
[12:05] <oscar> ECK: Ups.. I don't know so much... Can you teach me that in common words...I can't understand all that about the kernel. I don't know how can i do that?
[12:06] <l90bpm> where can I tell what bit the repositories support?
[12:06] <eck> dragonriot: yeah, contact that mirror/repo and tell them their repository is broken
[12:06] <linxeh> l90bpm: you must have changed /etc/apt/sources.list to do the upgrade
[12:06] <Oswy> Hmm, Instlux seems to be 5.10.
[12:06] <cables> Does anyone know of a way to get VirtualBox to coexist with other sound-using applications? I told it to use the alsa driver, but it's still stealing the sound card.
[12:06] <Oswy> Anyway I can get 6.10 instead, or can I just update easily through 5.10?
[12:06] <eck> oscar: i think you need to run something like 'sudo modprobe fuse', you probably don't have the fuse kernel module loaded so you can't use the fuse functionality
[12:06] <dragonriot> eck, that would be great if they were really active... is there way way to fix it myself??
[12:07] <oscar> OK I will try :D
[12:07] <l90bpm> Oswy..   it takes about two hours but you can do it w/ one command
[12:07] <eck> dragonriot: no, it's looking for the list of packages and the file just doesn't exist
[12:07] <Oswy> k
[12:07] <Oswy> Without a CD?
[12:07] <eck> the repository is broken
[12:07] <levander> Is everyone having to do a dist-upgrade to get from kernel 2.6.17-10 to 2.6.17-11?
[12:08] <c_lisp> I installed beryl when I load beryl-manager under applactions system tools I get the diamon tray icon but I don't  have the 3d effect
[12:08] <dragonriot> eck, how do I go about manually downloading the package.gz file it's looking for and telling apt to reference the new package?
[12:08] <c_lisp> can anybody help?
[12:08] <levander> Or, is it just because I installed the nvidia driver that I have to dist-upgrade?
[12:08] <mateuszk> is edgy newer than dapper?
[12:08] <preaction> c_lisp: #ubuntu-effects might help you better
[12:08] <Fredle> omg
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> mateuszk: yes
[12:08] <cables> mateuszk, yep
[12:08] <oscar> ECK: I type that in a console .. and How can I know if now is fine?... And.. always when I restart the computer I need do this?
[12:08] <Fredle> I'm outa here, need sleep..  got to work tomorow.
[12:08] <cables> *hair
[12:08] <eck> dragonriot: you can't, that's the problem. the packages list is supposed to be at http://archive.vyatta.com/dists/vyatta/1.0/main/Release/binary-i386/Packages.gz but that file doesn't exist
[12:08] <Fredle> bye
[12:09] <eck> maybe they shut down the repository?
[12:09] <Oswy> Oh wait, it's 6.06, cool!
[12:09] <dragonriot> eck, http://archive.vyatta.com/dists/vyatta/1.0 doesn't exist... but http://archive.vyatta.com/vyatta/dists/community/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz does exist...
[12:09] <l90bpm> it's not installing the 64bit either..
[12:10] <rogrsm> I am new here. Do not know the protocol. But I need help.
[12:10] <LordLimecat> anyone know anything about beryl/x11/viewing and editing window properties from CL?
[12:10] <l90bpm> ok.. well thats a good thing
[12:10] <eck> dragonriot: try changing the line in your sources.list
[12:10] <l90bpm> now I just need to figure out why it's not installing the packages I'm adding
[12:10] <IdleOne> rogrsm, ask your question be polite, no cursing and be patient 
[12:10] <linxeh> whats the best divx player for linux that can do upscaling etc ?
[12:10] <dragonriot> I did, but broke it...
[12:10] <eck> i guess they changed the mirror layout
[12:11] <l90bpm> it goes through the motions but at the end it says 0packages added 0packages updated etc
[12:11] <linxeh> l90bpm: it already has them then i guess
[12:11] <linuxnewbie756> someone help using azuerus? its giving me a hard time with ports
[12:11] <d00by> how do i install windows 2000 after i have already istalled Ubuntu so that the grub stays intact?
[12:11] <Flannel> d00by: you don't.  Install windows, then reinstall grub
[12:11] <IdleOne> !dualboot | d00by
[12:11] <ubotu> d00by: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:11] <Flannel> !grub | d00by
[12:11] <ubotu> d00by: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:11] <l90bpm> all 0'syeah, despite saying that they are applied...  but I still can't find my democracy player
[12:11] <d00by> thanks
[12:11] <linxeh> d00by: you dont - you'll have to fix grub after
[12:11] <Flannel> d00by: that first link there givesinstructions on reinstalling grub
[12:12] <mateuszk> tonyyarusso, how to install xorg from ubuntu on sid ?
[12:12] <LordLimecat> is there a way from commandline to query which windows are open and see their properties?
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> mateuszk: sure you can?
[12:12] <Oswy> Instlux isn't working.
[12:12] <Noah0504> Hey everyone.
[12:13] <Oswy> My CD must be messed up.
[12:13] <mateuszk> tonyyarusso, I am getting apt segfault :(
[12:13] <Oswy> And Instlux doesn't help me there.
[12:13] <oscar> Somebody can tell me hoc can I go toa spanish Ubuntu help? in IRC?
[12:13] <Oswy> :/
[12:13] <mateuszk> tonyyarusso, when trying to update from ubuntu mirror
[12:13] <DrOnline> Hey all, I've broken my text terminals (xwindows still works) can anybody help me?
[12:13] <Flannel> oscar: /join #ubuntu-es
[12:13] <eck> !es | oscar
[12:13] <ubotu> oscar: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:13] <tonyyarusso> mateuszk: I guess get some .debs and dpkg -i..
[12:13] <Alonea> anyone know where I can get the gpm driver so my wacom tablet will work correctly? the links on http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Wacom-Tablet-HOWTO.html#ss3.1   don't work.
[12:14] <rogrsm> I installed ubuntu supposedly as a dual boot OS. Have not been able to run XP OR ubuntu since. I get a grub error every boot. So I am operating off the live cd. -ANY ideas?
[12:14] <eck> rogrsm: what grub error?
[12:14] <Flannel> rogrsm: what grub error do you get?
[12:14] <rogrsm> grub error 18.
[12:14] <oscar> Gracias
[12:14] <cables> What version of the kernel does Feisty come with?
[12:14] <oscar> Thanks
[12:16] <mihailo> hello! can someone help me fix the xorg.conf? i tried to install nvidia drivers but now x wont run
[12:16] <Sp3nc3> anyone know if there's a package for phpunit2 in edgy? i want to install phpunit for php5 on edgy.
[12:16] <cables> mihailo, do you have your xorg.conf open?
[12:16] <Sp3nc3> mihailo: what's wrong?? did it say which line craped out?
[12:17] <mihailo> no, im currently talking to you from winxp
[12:17] <cables> mihailo, if you've got it open, find Section "Device" and change the Driver line from "nvidia" to "nv"
[12:17] <mirra> anyone here use Squirrel Mail ?
[12:18] <rogrsm> Flannel: grub error I get is 18.
[12:18] <ikonia> mirra: yes
[12:18] <mihailo> it said something about finding a bus device at bus 1:0:0
[12:18] <ikonia> got it working here
[12:18] <cables> mihailo, boot Ubuntu in recovery mode, and use the command "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to edit the file. Then find Section "Device" and change the Driver line from nvidia to "nv"
[12:18] <cables> mihailo, that will revert to the old driver.
[12:18] <mirra> ikonia, could you offer any advice on how to secure it..?
[12:18] <ikonia> mirra: with ssl - I've found it very good
[12:18] <mirra> ikonia, especially flood controls, etc
[12:19] <ikonia> mirra: not had much in the way of flooding, but overall, not had a problem
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> !quicktime
[12:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:19] <Flannel> rogrsm: Where is /boot? (or /)
[12:19] <mihailo> ok, i was really suprised, i just installed the driver through synaptic and typed a command from the packet description
[12:19] <Oswy> Argh.
[12:19] <mirra> ikonia, alright thanks i will look into it
[12:19] <Oswy> How do I use Instlux without a CD?
[12:19] <Oswy> Is it possible?
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> !ogg
[12:19] <Flannel> rogrsm: the error has to do with the grub config being outside of the BIOS's addressable range.  A BIOS update might also fix it.
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> !ogg > superkirbyartist
[12:19] <Xteven> where can I go for problems with pam ?
[12:19] <Flannel> rogrsm: or shuffling of partitions to put /boot closer to the beginning
[12:19] <Oswy> Is there an option to load it directly from the ISO?
[12:19] <ikonia> mirra: onething to keep in mind is your maildir format on the imap server squirrel mail is fussy
[12:20] <mirra> ikonia, what do you mean?
[12:20] <ikonia> mirra: check the squirrelmail help but maildir and maildir++ and things like that effect its behaviour, as does the imap server
[12:21] <mirra> ok
[12:22] <wilberfan> How cum i don't see the new 'control center' in my feisty herd 5??
[12:22] <wilberfan> i hear a lot of people don't like it...  i'd like to check it out...
[12:22] <Flannel> wilberfan: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support, thanks
[12:22] <rogrsm> thanks, Flannel. Will try to update bios first.      -Is there any way to revert back to an XP boot and try reinstalling Edgy?
[12:22] <wilberfan> ooops.   thanks....
[12:22] <Flannel> rogrsm: you'll need your windows CD, and run the 'fixmbr' command, to re-write the windows bootloader
[12:23] <Flannel> rogrsm: that command is from the windows CD, that is.
[12:23] <Sp3nc3> anyone know if there's a package for phpunit2 in edgy? i want to install phpunit for php5 on edgy.
[12:23] <ikonia> Sp3nc3: search the repo's
[12:23] <Sp3nc3> ikonia, there's nothing on the universe.. but the website online said otherwise
[12:24] <ikonia> Sp3nc3: if there is nothing in the ubuntu repo's contact the author
[12:24] <Flannel> rogrsm: if that doesn't work, when you're reinstalling, put a small (256mb will be more than you ever need and then some) partition near the front, and mount /boot there
[12:24] <rogrsm> flannel, will 'fixmbr' repartition my boot drive and lcause me to ose all my XP data? I kind of wanted to not do that...
[12:24] <rogrsm> ose+ lose
[12:25] <Sp3nc3> ikonia: oops.. the site was the edgy-backport repo directory.
[12:25] <Flannel> rogrsm: no, fixmbr just writes the windows bootloader to the MBR.  Overwriting stage 1 of grub
[12:25] <mirra> ikonia, would you mind quickly explaining how to enable ssl for squirrelmail
[12:26] <ikonia> mirra: well, there is 2 points, ssl on the imap server and ssl on the apache server, its not really squirrelmail
[12:26] <mirra> oh well they both have ssl already
[12:26] <mirra> i use webmin which runs with https
[12:26] <ikonia> mirra: ok - so when you configure squirrelmail just tell it to use ssl
[12:26] <ikonia> mirra: and make sure your ssl domain for webmail is using ssl
[12:27] <mirra> ikonia, thats the part i dont know how to do
[12:27] <ravi> zen are you in here?
[12:27] <ikonia> mirra: which bit
[12:27] <mirra> ikonia, how do you force it to use https://site.com/squirrelmail
[12:28] <ikonia> mirra: check the wiki for squirrelmail - there is a guide, its good
[12:28] <mirra> ok..thank you
[12:28] <mirra> ikonia, its on their main site?
[12:28] <mzuverink> What origram would I use to convert m4a ro mp3'?
[12:28] <ikonia> mirra: sorry, no. The ubuntu wiki
[12:28] <hateyla> in System Tab >> Quit Tab >> there is 4 option . Hibernate, Switchuser, log0ff, lockscreen... there is no Reboot And Shutdown option how can i Add Reboot And Shutdown option there? can i?
[12:28] <Flannel> mzuverink: m4a being itunes stuff?
[12:28] <cafuego_> mzuverink: ffmpeg would do it; HOWEVER you will lose a fair bit of audio quality.
[12:28] <tyn0r> hateyla, i've got the same probleme ...
[12:29] <ikonia> hateyla: I'm suffering the same issue. Its common with beryl/compiz, but I'm suffering it without it
[12:29] <babyju> folks...I added all my snd modules to /etc/default/acpi-support under the MODULES but I still cannot get sound to restart after sleep....can anyone recommend anything else? I have snd_intel8x0 but can't get it to reload.
[12:29] <ravi> anyone in here know how to find a user in this channel with the suffix of zen?
[12:29] <cafuego_> ping *zen
[12:29] <Hansel> hateyla - you may just have to    sudo shutdown -r now   (for reboot)    and         sudo shutdown -h now (for shutdown)
[12:29] <sethk> babyju, does lsmod show the modules?  maybe you need to rmmod?
[12:29] <ravi> ping *zen
[12:29] <hateyla> ikonia : i try to shutdown from terminal with " Sudo shutdown " but its asking for switches.
[12:29] <wapityyy> hey guys i typed in /gui hide and now i dont know how to fix it ... :S anyone has an idea what to do?
[12:29] <mzuverink> Flannel, yeah, not care about the m4a format, just want to edit tags and easytag wont do it, got a suggestion?
[12:29] <jamie> am using feisty every time i restart i have to set eth0 manualy using ifconfig but eth1 holds its ip. Any on got an idea why.
[12:29] <erichj> does anyone else have a problem with Ubuntu reading all cd's as audio cd's even if they are data?
[12:30] <Flannel> mzuverink: no, sorry.  no idea.
[12:30] <ikonia> hateyla: thats just flags, thats easy, the problem is why the buttons are missing.
[12:30] <ravi> you mean /ping *zen , that doesn't do anything for me
[12:30] <Flannel> jamie: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[12:30] <crimsun> mzuverink: ex falso.
[12:30] <ikonia> hateyla: I believe its part of theme support
[12:30] <hateyla> Hansel,  Shutdown -h  can shut my Pc?
[12:30] <mzuverink> crimsum, thanks
[12:30] <cafuego_> mzuverink: gtkpod would edit the tags :-)
[12:30] <jamie> cheers
[12:30] <Flannel> mzuverink: I was just going to say, you can get converters (PlayFair, etc) for itunes stuff
[12:30] <Hansel> sudo shutdown -h now     = shutdown and halt.           -r = reboot
[12:30] <mzuverink> ok thanks
[12:30] <cafuego_> ravi: No, that's not what I mean.
[12:30] <hateyla> ikonia, : ya change my themes. ICons..
[12:30] <hateyla> *i
[12:30] <ravi> cafuego_: then what do you mean?
[12:30] <ikonia> hateyla: shouldn't cause this problem though
[12:31] <cafuego_> ravi: if they're paying attention, they might respond.
[12:31] <erichj> does anyone else have a problem with Ubuntu reading all cd's as audio cd's even if they are data?
[12:31] <hateyla> ikonia, : now my Ubuntu going gr8 with All updates :> damn i really love this setting.
[12:31] <ikonia> hateyla: I posted this thread on it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2316355#post2316355
[12:31] <ravi> cafuego_: he was just trying to help me on a tough networking problem and I found the solution, just wanted to let him know.
[12:31] <Hansel> erichj - do you want audio to play automatically in a sound player?
[12:31] <ikonia> hateyla: its nothing to do with updates
[12:31] <hateyla> ikonia, nevamind now i can shutdown it from terminal with -h prefix
[12:31] <Hansel> erichj - by default a computer operating system should read all data on a disk as data...
[12:32] <dewaro> Hey everyone I was kinda hoping i could find someone to give me some help setting up a software raid volume
[12:32] <babyju> sethk, after I added the modules and did a resume from sleep it appears that the snd_intel8x0  module did not reload. I did a modprobe snd_intel8x0  but still no sound.
[12:32] <hateyla> ikonia,  na talking about just i just updated my ubuntu now all things working good :) and fine
[12:32] <Hansel> !raid
[12:32] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:32] <ikonia> dewaro: man mdadm
[12:32] <erichj> hansel: no soundjuicer auto opens when i insert a cd and ubuntu says it is an audio cd. but it is the ubuntu live cd
[12:32] <ravi> software raid < hardware raid
[12:32] <mirra> ikonia, i uncommented the last section in squirrelmail.conf like it said too but that didnt work..
[12:32] <hateyla> ikonia,  looking thread.
[12:32] <slvmchn> can anyone recommend an IRC client besides x-chat/x-chat-gnome
[12:32] <dewaro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowtohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto
[12:32] <sethk> babyju, do lsmod, see if it's already loaded (or the o/s thinks it's already loaded).  If so, do rmmod, then do the modprobe
[12:32] <ravi> gaim?
[12:32] <Hansel> slvmchn - do you want a gui interface or is command line okay?  irssi and bitchx are commonly used... or you can use mIRC through wine.
[12:32] <Oswy> Can anyone help me with Instlux?
[12:32] <cafuego_> ravi: For certain values of hardware raid, yes.
[12:33] <ikonia> Oswy: whats that ?
[12:33] <Oswy> I downloaded the English net version.
[12:33] <cafuego_> slvmchn: irssi
[12:33] <slvmchn> Hansel: ideally with a GUI, command line clients wouldn't let me use the mouse right?
[12:33] <Oswy> A program for install Ubuntu through Windows.
[12:33] <ravi> oswy, have you dealt with you problem?
[12:33] <Oswy> Nope.
[12:33] <ikonia> Oswy: ughhh that thing. I don't see the problem with the livecd
[12:33] <ravi> Oswy: if you mean install.exe?
[12:33] <Hansel> slvmchn - correct... you can still highlight from your console if you want to copy and paste text but in general its all commands.
[12:33] <Oswy> I've had many problems with the CD.
[12:33] <Oswy> ><
[12:33] <Hansel> ie; no right-clicking a name to get options...
[12:33] <rogrsm> -THANKS flannel!  I got the conversation saved to a file. You might have prevented my permanent insanity!!!
[12:33] <gumnut> hi, i am having trouble setting a FQDN in /etc/hosts on ubuntu edgy, what is a possible cause?
[12:33] <philuk86> hi. Does anyone know why sbackup was not included by default in edgy? What was it missing for ubuntu to feel they needed to create a SC2007 spec for something somewhat similar.
[12:33] <mzuverink> None of my m4a have genres!
[12:33] <ravi> Oswy: that's really not recommended
[12:33] <Oswy> Then what the hell can I do?
[12:33] <ravi> Oswy: at least from me.
[12:33] <Oswy> :/
[12:34] <ikonia> or me
[12:34] <ravi> Oswy: you can just do that windows install for now I guess
[12:34] <slvmchn> Hansel: I was on x-chat, now moved to x-chat-gnome, but i'm just not digging it... specifically now when people say my nick it doesn't light up the line so i have to search for it... instead it makes it orange, but some people's nicks are orange by default
[12:34] <Oswy> Whatever, I'll try a manual thingy tonight.
[12:34] <kitche> !sbackup | philuk86
[12:34] <ubotu> philuk86: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[12:34] <Oswy> g2g
[12:34] <Askar> why is openoffice taking so long to open?!?! :-/
[12:34] <slvmchn> looks like i'll try out irssi... thanks hansel, cafuego_
[12:34] <Hansel> slvmchn - you can configure it to do that... just takes time to tinker with all of the settings.  :)  I used to use mIRC through wine because I was addicted to its interface.  I weaned myself off and now use regular xchat.
[12:35] <philuk86> yeah i know what it is but why is there a google sc 2007 spec for a backup client when they already have sbackup?
[12:35] <d00by> how do i add beryl to my startup?
[12:35] <gumnut> irssi is very good, can customise, new skins, autojoin etc, and it *looks* great
[12:35] <ravi> Askar: openoffice is taking long to open? how ironic. run oowriter from command line and note down whatever comes up
[12:35] <babyju> sethk, whenever I have tried to unload any of the sound moudules I always get module is in use errors.
[12:35] <ravi> Askar: got the dump? paste in pastebin and put the URL here
[12:36] <d00by> every time i go to sessions>Startup Programs, and add beryl-manager, no matter what when i restart or log out or anything it's not there when i log back in? Any ideas?
[12:36] <sethk> babyju, probably the sound server is running and has the modules tied up.  You won't be able to reload until you unload.  You may have to kill the sound server, do your modules stuff, and restart the sound server
[12:36] <brady> could someone point me to a recent bcm43xx howto for ubuntu? there are several methods available and it is not clear which is the ``blessed'' method.
[12:36] <ravi> d00by, what happens when you run beryl-manager through command prompt?
[12:36] <Hansel> d00by - you can add it to your window managers startup script... if you google for ubuntu beryl I am pretty sure it is in the how-to on the ubuntu wiki site.
[12:36] <Askar> ravi: wait..it is opening.. :P
[12:36] <ravi> Askar: hahaha
[12:36] <ben23> how do i do triple screen??
[12:36] <ben23> http://pastebin.co.uk/12019
[12:36] <cafuego_> brady: There isn't one. However, I find my firmware packages to be the least annoying :-)
[12:37] <ravi> ben23, you're such a lucky b***rd
[12:37] <Flannel> Hansel, d00by, check the topic in #ubuntu-effects
[12:37] <d00by> ravi, it works fine when i run it through command-prompt
[12:37] <brady> cafuego, please point me in their direction then.
[12:37] <slvmchn> Hansel: the only problem i have with regular x-chat is the way it lists the chans along the bottom of the screen... i'm in a lot of chans on several networks so it's a pain to scroll back and forth constantly
[12:37] <ravi> d00by, you sure? it pops up in the notification area and everything?
[12:37] <cafuego_> brady: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[12:37] <d00by> ravi, yes it does
[12:37] <Askar> ravi:
[12:38] <Askar> ravi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10959/
[12:38] <babyju> sethk, I will give that a try...FYI the only sound script I have in the /etc/init.d is the alsa-util. Is this the right script to restart the sound server?
[12:38] <Hansel> slvmchn - right click on the tab and choose Detach Tab... it will become its own window and you can stagger the windows so you can see them all at once.
[12:38] <sethk> babyju, I'm not sure about the script name
[12:38] <d00by> ravi, i'm running it right now so i'm sure, but every time i try to add anything to the sessions>startup programs it always for some reason doesnt save the changes I add
[12:39] <brady> cafuego, I cannot reach your site.
[12:40] <ravi> Askar: you've got beryl/XGL on?
[12:40] <ravi> d00by, well there is a way to ensure it does write the session changes
[12:40] <d00by> ravi, what is this
[12:41] <hateyla> is any channel for Vista related help?
[12:41] <voltagex> I think the zsh package is broken in stable... the "prompt" utility is missing
[12:41] <DeL3e7> hah
[12:41] <jrib> hateyla: ##windows
[12:41] <DeL3e7> vista bleh
[12:41] <Askar> ravi: what do u think?
[12:42] <logik-bomb>  hi! is it possible to | grep a remote .html file from the terminal?
[12:42] <hateyla> jrib,  thankyou
[12:42] <sethk> voltagex, prompt is a built in, I think, can't be missing.
[12:42] <ikonia> logik-bomb: no
[12:42] <jrib> voltagex: no it isn't, did you autoload it?
[12:42] <voltagex> jrib: err, I was told it was external, but how do I autoload it?
[12:42] <sethk> voltagex, actually, I don't find prompt on any of my boxes, including the ones where I installed zsh from source.
[12:42] <logik-bomb> ikonia, and using a terminal web browser?
[12:42] <erichj> anyone know who the default owner of a cd drive is. is it supposed to be unknown?
[12:43] <ikonia> logik-bomb: whats a terminal web browser - you mean like lynx ?
[12:43] <logik-bomb> yes
[12:43] <voltagex> logik-bomb: wget -O - example.com | grep string
[12:43] <jrib> voltagex: autoload -U promptinit; promptinit; prompt elite2   for example
[12:43] <GenNMX> Terminal Web Browser -- Netscape Communicator. Oh wait, you mean a browser you use in your --terminal--, don't you....
[12:43] <ikonia> logik-bomb: still impossible
[12:43] <ikonia> voltagex: thats making the file local
[12:43] <Hansel> terminal browsers = links and lynx
[12:43] <Hansel> I prefer lynx.
[12:44] <voltagex> ikonia: well, it doesn't get saved anywhere
[12:44] <logik-bomb> GenNMX ROTFL
[12:44] <zack> I have a C++ program which I want to compile using a library i just downloaded... how do i get the compiler to find that library? it's located in a folder in my home directory...
[12:44] <ravi> Askar: once again I ask you: are you running XGL/Beryl/Compiz??
[12:44] <ikonia> voltagex: true
[12:44] <voltagex> ikonia: I just send it straight to stdout using wget, or curl does that by default
[12:44] <Hansel> zack - you may need to edit the make script to point to it...
[12:44] <ravi> guys, what's the folder the session startup list is stored in again?
[12:44] <levander> What does it mean when I do an 'apt-cache show <package-name>' and more than one package description, each with the same name, shows up?
[12:44] <ravi> for gnome
[12:44] <ikonia> voltagex: yeah, I see what you're doing
[12:44] <ravi> I am forgetting at the moment
[12:45] <crdlb> ravi, ~/.gnome2/session iirc
[12:45] <Netham45|Gone> http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=66573 -- yay! no school!
[12:45] <ravi> d00by: there you go d00by
[12:46] <zack> Hansel: heh, that's the obvious, which i seem to have missed
[12:46] <zack> Hansel: thanks
[12:46] <garnier> hy all
[12:46] <ravi> Netham45|Gone: did you burn down your school again?
[12:46] <garnier> how do I use the comand line in ubuntu???
[12:46] <Netham45|Gone> ravi: mabye. <.< >.>
[12:46] <levander> garnier: open a terminal
[12:47] <garnier> levander, only this way??
[12:47] <Netham45|Gone> garnier: applications>accessories>termial
[12:47] <ravi> Netham45|Gone: "Fire officials are still trying to determine what sparked the blaze, but say it does not appear to be suspicious." nice work!
[12:47] <tjl30> I just accidently emptied my recycle bin but there was a file in there I needed
[12:47] <levander> garnier: what other way do you want?
[12:47] <jrib> garnier: how else would you want to do it?
[12:47] <garnier> and about that ALT+F1, ALT+F2
[12:47] <voltagex> (voltagex@dubuntu)-(10:47am-:-03/19)-] -
[12:47] <tjl30> is there a way to get that file back ?
[12:47] <Netham45|Gone> ravi: tanks
[12:47] <Hansel> garnier - open a terminal or if you want to completely break out of the GUI you can CTRL ALT F1-F6 and then ALT + F7 to get back to the GUI  :)
[12:47] <voltagex> does that look broken to anyone else?
[12:47] <bb> Gone: Perhaps you can rest 2 days home ;)
[12:47] <Hansel> ie; CTRL + ALT + F2
[12:47] <Lord_Illidan> jrib : backups?
[12:47] <ravi> Netham45|Gone: WHAT, you did it with TANKS?
[12:47] <levander> garnier: from X-Windows it's Ctrl-Alt-F1
[12:47] <garnier> Hansel, yeas.s... this is what i'd like
[12:47] <Netham45|Gone> thanks*
[12:48] <bb> LOL
[12:48] <ravi> Netham45|Gone: Those firefighters must have been really oblivious.
[12:48] <levander> garnier: on a console, it's just Alt-F1
[12:48] <ravi> hahah
[12:48] <Netham45|Gone> XD
[12:48] <jrib> Lord_Illidan: ?
[12:48] <Hansel> yeah... once at the console you can switch between them with ALT + F1 - F6
[12:48] <Hansel> or you can use screen to get multi terms up  :)
[12:48] <tjl30> is there a way to get back what I emptied from the trash bin?
[12:48] <voltagex> (voltagex@dubuntu)-(10:47am-:-03/19)-] - does that look broken to anyone else?
[12:48] <garnier> Hansel, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't do anything
[12:48] <kuun-lann> hi
[12:48] <zack> Looking in the Make File: -L../../lib/Win32-gcc -lIrrlicht -lopengl32 -lglu32 -lm   <-- lIrrlicht  is the one that's causing it... how do i fix this? (not too familiar with make files unfortunately)
[12:48] <Hansel> garnier - hold down CTRL and ALT and then push F1 while those are depressed... nothing?
[12:48] <mirak> how can I know on wich port an application is listening with a socket ?
[12:48] <Netham45|Gone> whoa
[12:49] <Hansel> mirak - netstat -an
[12:49] <Netham45|Gone> if I set my volume to 0% it still plays, just really quiet.
[12:49] <garnier> Hansel, do nothing
[12:49] <ravi> Netham, really depends on your speakers.
[12:49] <Hansel> garnier - only thing I can think is your keymap may be different... ?
[12:49] <Askar> ravi: yes beryl
[12:49] <garnier> Hansel, mihght be the version of my ubuntu?
[12:49] <voltagex> whoa, power!
[12:49] <ravi> Askar: thanks for replying so quickly :/
[12:50] <Netham45|Gone> bbl
[12:50] <garnier> Hansel, what it mean?
[12:50] <mirak> Hansel: thanks
[12:50] <Hansel> garnier - that should work in any version of linux.  I've done it in Slackware, Fedora, SuSE, etc.
[12:50] <zack> Hansel: Would a soft link from Win32-gcc to my include folder work?
[12:50] <Askar> ravi: sorry : / it didnt scroll down.. : o I turned of beryl..still more than 1 minute opening time
[12:50] <garnier> Hansel, yeah... i did it on other linux... but in ubuntu it doesn't do anything
[12:50] <Hansel> zack - may need a hardlink... :(  Softlinks are funky with compiling...
[12:50] <kuun-lann> hello ..i'm on a edgy distro and i have the libgphoto 2.2 .. but i need the 2.3 version and it doesnt appear in repo.. can you help me ?
[12:51] <colbert> how do I change the default program that plays DVDs?
[12:51] <mirak> Hansel: the app doesn't appear in the list
[12:51] <jrib> colbert: system > prefs > removable drives and media
[12:51] <ravi> Askar: Option "EnablePageFlip" "off"
[12:51] <tjl30> right click on the dvd and hit open with
[12:51] <ravi> Askar: You need to put that in to your device on the Video card
[12:51] <ravi> Askar: you know how to do that right?
[12:51] <tjl30> select from list then hit the box that says remember to open with
[12:52] <Hansel> mirak - in the path column it is empty?
[12:52] <Askar> ravi: yep yhink so.. in the devicesection?
[12:52] <m1r> how to set program to run on startup ?
[12:52] <jrib> !startup | m1r
[12:52] <someone1> hey, i'm having trouble getting ubuntu to install
[12:52] <ubotu> m1r: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[12:52] <BryanJK> can someone help me partition my ubuntu?
[12:52] <ravi> Askar: yeah
[12:52] <garnier> Hansel, help me pls
[12:52] <m1r> ty jrib
[12:52] <Hansel> kuun-lann - it may not be available... that means you get to download and compile.  :)         ./configure && make && make install       after you            tar -zxvf the.file.tar.gz
[12:52] <someone1> Can somebody help me?
[12:52] <kuun-lann> Hansel, : ok thx :)
[12:52] <tjl30> ubuntu comes with partition software
[12:52] <Hansel> garnier - dont know what to tell you.  It just works(tm) for all of my installs.
[12:53] <ravi> Askar: doesn't matter if you turn off Beryl or not, it's associated with the system that is around it, xorg-xgl-server
[12:53] <jrib> someone1: someone can try, but you need to ask a question first
[12:53] <garnier> Hansel, uhh... shit
[12:53] <garnier> Hansel, do u use ubuntu right?
[12:53] <someone1> When i load the install CD for 6.10, it hangs on the splash after i say Install Ubuntu
[12:53] <Hansel> garnier - we try to keep it family friendly here... easy on the 4 letter words  :P
[12:53] <Hansel> garnier - yeah... Edgy on this computer.
[12:53] <mirak> Hansel: the port it's supposed to be listening on doesn't show up, and also when I nmap it it says it's closed. However I have an application that needs to connect to it, and it seems it can, so it's weird
[12:53] <ravi> Askar: man, I really hate you though, you can run Beryl while I have to sit on the sidelines with my crappy Radeon card.
[12:53] <Nemes> someone1: just ask
[12:53] <jrib> someone1: have you verified the cd's md5sum?
[12:54] <Hansel> mirak - which program?  You sure its a tcp port or just a unix socket?
[12:54] <someone1> yes, i tried that multiple times
[12:54] <someone1> i tried different DVD drives
[12:54] <someone1> i have a ATI X700 if that might help
[12:54] <pkh> I have a netgear wg111t -- it doens't work with ubuntu.  I would like a definitive list of what wireless devices (pcmcia & usb) do absolutely, definitely, out-of-the-box work with ubuntu (edgy now but feisty soon) -- is there such a thing?
[12:54] <jrib> someone1: but did it verify the cd?
[12:54] <someone1> when trying to install the x64 version, i get a "no video output device found"
[12:54] <mirak> Hansel: vdr connects to a cardserver gbox
[12:54] <someone1> yes
[12:54] <Hansel> someone1 - You should try for xubuntu... they have an iso with a command line installation interface.  For older systems (like my 400mhz 128mb RAM P2 this was the only way I could get Linux on).
[12:54] <poningru> !wifi | pkh
[12:54] <ubotu> pkh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:54] <mirra> ikonia, ssl will work if i enable mod_ssl right?
[12:54] <jrib> someone1: try the alternate cd
[12:54] <someone1> the alternate CD?
[12:55] <poningru> mirra: it should work out of the box
[12:55] <BryanJK> okay, heres what I have setup... 2 partitions, one partition has a fresh copy of windows and the other has all my files
[12:55] <ravi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[12:55] <mirra> ikonia, i enabled it and edited squirrelmail.conf and it doesnt work..either way now
[12:55] <jrib> !alternate > someone1    (someone1, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:55] <someone1> i tried the x64 version and the x86 version
[12:55] <ravi> pkh, ubotu is spart!
[12:55] <BryanJK> How should I partition ubuntu so i can dual boot with the windows and keep my files?
[12:55] <ravi> smart*
[12:55] <ikonia> mirra: you have to do a lot more than just that
[12:55] <mirak> Hansel: it's really listening on it
[12:55] <BryanJK> im in the manual partiton setup right now
[12:55] <fr500> !dualbooting
[12:55] <Hansel> BryanJK - do you have a spare partition or do you need to split one of those existing ones?
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualbooting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <mirak> Hansel: but namp doesn't find the port, that's strange
[12:55] <fr500> !dualboot
[12:55] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:55] <mirra> ikonia, i thought ssl was set up already thought because i use webmin through https
[12:55] <someone1> alright, thanks, but will i still be able to get the Xserver working and everything if i use the alternate cd?
[12:56] <ravi> BryanJK, send it back to guided partitioning and say make free space for Ubuntu and review the results of the suggestions.
[12:56] <Askar> ravi: better luck with next card.. :) now I will restart my computer..thanks for helping!!
[12:56] <someone1> i wanted to test out XGL and beryl
[12:56] <Hansel> mirak - very odd... /msg me the ports you think it is running on and the IP addresses of the box you are nmaping from and the nmap-ee
[12:56] <ravi> Askar: hold on.
[12:56] <ravi> Askar: no need to restart
[12:56] <jrib> someone1: well once you get it installed it will be easier for you to fix any issues you might have with X
[12:56] <BryanJK> "Use largest coninous free space"
[12:56] <pkh> absolutely perfect -- thansk
[12:56] <Hansel> someone1 - yes, after using the commandline installer I could get xfce running on my p2 400mhz.
[12:56] <ravi> Askar: just go to the first terminal, Control-Alt-1, login, do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:56] <someone1> alright, thanks guys, i'll give it a try!
[12:56] <ravi> Askar: saves time
[12:57] <Hansel> BryanJK - lets say you have a harddrive that is 50gig.  You currently have Windows primarily partition using 30 gig and a spare partition for files using 20 gig.  You may have some "unused" space of about 10MB... is this the case?  Or do you have actual space partitioned off for Linux?
[12:57] <Askar> ravi: is it same effect as ctrl+alt+backspace?
[12:57] <ravi> Askar: yep
[12:57] <Cave`> Is it possible to convert filesystem from ntfs to an ext3 without losing any data?
[12:57] <ravi> Askar: that should be enough for this
[12:57] <Hansel> Cave - you will lose data for sure.
[12:57] <Cave`> damn :)
[12:57] <ravi> Askar: however, sometimes it doesn't restart when you do that
[12:57] <BryanJK> i dont have anything partitioned off for linux, but yes there is 8mb of unpartitoned space
[12:58] <Askar> ravi: noticed that..
[12:58] <Cave`> I have all my music on a ntfs disk :)
[12:58] <PoofDaddy> How do I register on this thing?  The link http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup is not helping me.
[12:58] <gumnut> hi, i am trying to sudo echo 'server.example.com' > /etc/hostname ... yet when i try, the output says i must be root to do that. my sudo is setup correctly, what is going on?
[12:58] <jrib> Cave`: best way imo is to make backups, reformat, copy backups
[12:58] <Cave`> oki
[12:58] <Hansel> BryanJK - you need to get a tool like Partition Magic and defrag your Windows partitions first.  I recommend you take about 15 gig from an existing partition for Linux using Partition magic (this will non-destructively alter your partition table so Windows will not get harmed by the downsizing)
[12:58] <jrib> gumnut: the redirection is done by the shell which is running as your user.  pipe to "sudo tee" instead
[12:58] <ravi> BryanJK: ok, but keeping the guided partitioning on, Ubuntu installer will give you a config which shrinks the Windows partition down and create an ext3 ubuntu partition from the remaining free space
[12:58] <logik-bomb> does anyone masters the dark art of text parsing ? lol
[12:58] <Hansel> gumnut - why not just sudo nano /etc/hostname and manually type it in?
[12:59] <Hansel> logik-bomb - using perl, sed, awk, or what?
[12:59] <ravi> BryanJK: listen to Hansel if you've used the windows partition extensively
[12:59] <BryanJK> is it possible to edit partitons from the ubuntu install
[12:59] <BryanJK> its a fresh windows install,, but okay
[12:59] <gumnut> jrib: k, will do
[12:59] <mattyv> Is there a way to edit the database in Tracker (the search program) to remove something that's already been added to the db?
[01:00] <Hansel> BryanJK - yes but the Linux installer is a --destructive-- partioning tool (fdisk or cfdisk probably)
[01:00] <Askar> ravi: do u think pageflipping off will help my openoffice start faster?
[01:00] <elementz> hi everybody
[01:00] <Hansel> That means any partition it resizes it will damage...
[01:00] <ravi> BryanJK: yes sir, the guided partitioner will do it for you. on a fresh windows install, there is really no need to defrag it and use Partition Magic, just go with the Guided Partition and paste the "review suggestion" partition info in here.
[01:00] <elementz> need help with my usb-hd - it suddenly unmounted while copying some files
[01:00] <ncaller> what package do I need to install to get man pages to C functions such as bzero() and htons() ?
[01:00] <ravi> Askar: yep, I've heard that works most of the time with these gtk apps
[01:01] <ravi> Askar: why the question?
[01:01] <jrib> ncaller: manpages-dev
[01:01] <Hansel> ncaller - I dont believe there are man pages for language functions (ie; no manpage for ruby, perl, php, etc)
[01:01] <elementz> now i can't mount it anymore - am scared that my hd died on me - is there a way to find out?
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> hello
[01:01] <BryanJK> "Failed to partition the sleected disc -- this proably happened because there is not enough space on the selected disc
[01:01] <ravi> Askar: didn't work?
[01:01] <BryanJK> sorry about the grammar, im typing on a tiny pda
[01:01] <XfceRules> how do I change how windows snap to eachother or the viewport?
[01:01] <sethk> ncaller, start with development-essential
[01:01] <ravi> ncaller: devel--- what seth said
[01:01] <PoofDaddy> Can anyone tell me where to register my Nick?  The link http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup does not tell me where to go.
[01:02] <ravi> damn your typing skills sethk
[01:02] <Askar> ravi: Im waiting for an installation to finish berfore I restart X.. I thought that I could do something else before restart if terhe was a need to do something more : )
[01:02] <gumnut> jrib: sorry for the denseness, pipe to sudo tee instead, that just gave a file called sudo with the domain name and tee in it ... is that what you meant?
[01:02] <Cave`> PoofDaddy, write /msg nickserv register help
[01:02] <sethk> ravi, I tip realll gooood
[01:02] <hateyla> PoofDaddy,  /msg nickserv help
[01:02] <ravi> Askar: all right then
[01:02] <elementz> anybody here, who got time to help me with my usb drive problem?
[01:02] <jrib> gumnut: echo foo | sudo tee /etc/hostname       Also, please read the following warning closely:
[01:02] <jrib> !hostname | gumnut
[01:02] <ubotu> gumnut: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[01:02] <Askar> !hi
[01:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:03] <ravi> elementz, fire away
[01:03] <elementz> ravi, thx
[01:03] <BryanJK> so should i just boot into windows, then make lke a spare 15gb partition for linux like you said?
[01:03] <PoofDaddy> Cave and hateyla.  Do I write it on this thing?
[01:03] <XfceRules> How do I change how windows snap to the screen?
[01:03] <Xero9364> I'm not on Ubuntu, but I'm on Debian.
[01:03] <gumnut> jrib: thank you
[01:03] <Cave`> or in the freenode window
[01:03] <ravi> Xero9364: close enough :-)
[01:03] <Xero9364> XFCE truly does rule, in response to that nick.
[01:03] <c_lisp> how do you use beryl vid-capture plugin?
[01:03] <peija-kas> !automatix
[01:03] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:03] <ravi> Xero9364: but you should go to Debian Servers
[01:03] <elementz> ravi, copied some files to my usb-hd -> it suddenly umounted, now i can't remount it anymore, rebooted already
[01:03] <Askar> !WorksForME
[01:03] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:04] <elementz> ravi, maybe it crashed? is there a way to find out?
[01:04] <peija-kas> !WorksForMe
[01:04] <arpegius> does the sever edition simply strip out all the friendly/graphical ui stuff?
[01:04] <atomiku> Any decent MP3 mixing programs like Traktor Dj Studio available for linux?
[01:04] <Xero9364> !hi
[01:04] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:04] <ravi> elementz, do you remember the device name of your usb-hd before it crashed?
[01:04] <Xero9364> #ooboontoo
[01:04] <kitche> Cave`: it's not possible
[01:04] <Xero9364> thats how its pronounced
[01:04] <ncaller> thanks manpages-dev is what I needed!
[01:04] <Xero9364> ooooo b000000000000000n tooooooooo
[01:04] <ravi> elementz, it would have been something like sda1 or sdb1
[01:04] <atomiku> Xero9364: rly?
[01:04] <Xero9364> yeah
[01:04] <atomiku> ive always pronounced it as
[01:04] <Cave`> just /msg nickserv register
[01:04] <atomiku> OO-BUN-TOO
[01:05] <jrib> !pronounce | atomiku
[01:05] <ubotu> atomiku: Ubuntu is pronounced "oo-BOON-too"  See http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq
[01:05] <Xero9364> Its Swahili or some other junk
[01:05] <atomiku> :<
[01:05] <atomiku> oo boon too sounds gay :<
[01:05] <elementz> ravi, it mounted under media/foo <- the names i gave the partitions
[01:05] <Xero9364> lol
[01:05] <jrib> !language | atomiku
[01:05] <ubotu> atomiku: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:05] <atomiku> jrib: nope
[01:05] <XfceRules> how do I turn off "window snapping"?
[01:05] <atomiku> nothing wrong with calling something gay
[01:05] <Askar> Is there a way to make a computer give a warning like this:"computer will shutdown in 5 minutes" and then do it?
[01:05] <Xero9364> No. Blitsex sounds gay, atomiku
[01:05] <LjL> atomiku: says you
[01:05] <atomiku> Xero9364: both do
[01:05] <XfceRules> like... you?
[01:05] <elementz> ravi, lshw shows me the controller of the hd case but not the hd itself
[01:05] <LjL> ok, stop
[01:05] <BryanJK> how much free space do i actually need to install ubuntu?
[01:05] <XfceRules> jk
[01:06] <Flannel> BryanJK: believe the minimum is ~2gB
[01:06] <ardchoille> BryanJK: I installed Ubuntu on a 8Gb drive and it works great.
[01:06] <preaction> BryanJK: probably best to have around a gigabyte, more if you want to actually do things. i'd say at minimum 4
[01:06] <BryanJK> okay
[01:06] <elementz> ravi, strange huh?
[01:06] <ravi> elementz, ok, can you hand me that and your /etc/fstab in pastebin?
[01:06] <Xero9364> i have a 40GB drive for my Debian.
[01:06] <Xero9364> Thats a little excessive tohugh.
[01:06] <elementz> ravi, hold on
[01:07] <Xero9364> *though
[01:07] <peija-kas> atmoki yeah there is
[01:07] <erichj> !udf
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <peija-kas> atomiku google gshutdown
[01:08] <peija-kas> or search forums for it
[01:08] <m1r> !ntfs
[01:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:08] <peija-kas> atomiku graphical front to shutdown..u can use countdown timer or calendar time to shutdown
[01:08] <ravi> elementz, also your dmesg output if you could
[01:08] <atomiku> ?
[01:08] <atomiku> you what?
[01:09] <atomiku> why do i need gshutdown
[01:09] <atomiku> lol
[01:09] <atomiku> i think you mean someone else>
[01:09] <BryanJK> okay, what partitioning program would you reccomend for windows then?
[01:09] <BryanJK> Partiton Magic 8?
[01:09] <Jaguar> BryanJK: Worked well for me, resized my primary to make room for a dual-boot of Ubuntu 6.10 and XP.
[01:09] <Xero9364> QTParted/PartitionMagic 8
[01:10] <Xero9364> Happiness
[01:10] <coopster> does anyone have a Logitech G15 keyboard that they have not fully set up yet?  I just wrote a HOWTO and am looking for a guinea pig.
[01:10] <mojo> hello.  how do i make xchat join more than one channel at startup.. i have it auto-connecting to freenode and joining one channel, but it ignores others if i put them with spaces or comma separated.  what's the trick?  can it be done?  thx!
[01:10] <preaction> BryanJK: boot the live CD and use gparted or qtparted
[01:11] <PhewL> anyone recommend a good mp3 cd burning program that supports wma, ma4, mp3 formats
[01:11] <coopster> PhewL,  k3b
[01:11] <DeL3e7> mojo, try a ,
[01:11] <lufis> What's the keyboard shortcut to make a screenshot of only one window? Alt + print screen, right?
[01:11] <Xero9364> k3b
[01:11] <PhewL> coopster, i dont like k3b
[01:12] <Hansel> lufis - no... not in Linux.
[01:12] <DeL3e7> #ubuntu,#binrev,#noob
[01:12] <lufis> Hansel: hmm :(
[01:12] <ravi> BryanJK: if you don't feel at ease using all these tools, take my advice and use the Guided Partitioning, it does a good enough job at shrinking NTFS partitions and making space for the linux partition for Ubuntu
[01:12] <mojo> DeL3e7: i did the comma separated list
[01:12] <lufis> Hansel: i could have sworn it worked before. it's not now though
[01:12] <Hansel> lufis - there are lots of screen capture tools or you can run a command to capture the entire or part of the desktop
[01:12] <mojo> DeL3e7: no joy.  i tried with and without spaces, and tried space separated list too
[01:12] <Hansel> lufis - in Windows that works... not Linux.
[01:12] <Hansel> AFAIK
[01:12] <lufis> Hansel: yeah, i'm gonna use gimp
[01:12] <DeL3e7> ;
[01:12] <ravi> anyone else in here HATE yum+rpm???
[01:12] <lufis> Hansel: oh well, thanks anyway
[01:13] <Hansel> ravi - lets not start a package manager war... we all use apt-get and we're content with it.  Let's leave it at that.  :)
[01:13] <preaction> far better to start a vim/emacs war
[01:13] <elementz> ravi: pastebin didn't respond http://phpfi.com/217127 http://phpfi.com/217128 http://phpfi.com/217129
[01:13] <ravi> Hansel: darn, I was ready for it :-(
[01:14] <gossar> Hello all
[01:14] <mojo> DeL3e7: it is not a showstopper but i find myself wanting to be on a half a dozen channels now, #ubuntu, #linux, #efika, #pegasospowerppc, #gentoo-efika, others... lots of /joins to type
[01:14] <Hansel> hi gossar
[01:14] <Xero9364> I'm bored.
[01:14] <Hansel> Hi bored, I'm Hansel.
[01:14] <Xero9364> Does anyone want to see my Random Linux Babble?
[01:14] <maximi89> :)
[01:15] <Hansel> Xero9364, save it for ubuntu-offtopic
[01:15] <maximi89> i'm not bored :(
[01:15] <Xero9364> ok
[01:15] <gossar> Q: In LVM is there a way to specify which physical extents get used when creating a lv?
[01:15] <gossar> (short of creating a hd partition)
[01:15] <Flannel> gossar: what?
[01:16] <DeL3e7> try just spacin it with nothing #ubuntu #chotskys mojo
[01:16] <levander> Is everyone hear using 2.6.17-11?  For some reason, apt-get wants me to dist-upgrade to get to it from my current 2.6.17-10
[01:16] <mojo> DeL3e7: tried that too :(
[01:16] <preaction> mojo: try #xchat? there's a channel for xchat
[01:16] <coopster> Final call, does anyone have a Logitech G15 keyboard that they have not fully set up yet?  I just wrote a HOWTO and am looking for a guinea pig.  Here's your only chance to be walked through step by step on how to make all the keys and LCD work.
[01:17] <Flannel> levander: that's correct.  .11 is the newest version in edgy
[01:17] <gumnut> jrib: worked well, thanks for tips
[01:17] <crdlb> mojo, #ubuntu,#gentoo like that
[01:17] <levander> Flannel: did you have to dist-upgrade to get to it?
[01:17] <mojo> preaction: no response in #xchat, and the dude in #xchat-gnome just tells me to as in #xchat :~/
[01:17] <jrib> gumnut: np
[01:17] <Daemonik> Does Feisty Fawn support the RT61 driver out of the box?
[01:17] <gossar> I'm trying to set up LVM and want to put /usr/src at the slow end of the drive
[01:17] <jrib> Daemonik: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[01:17] <preaction> !patience | mogo
[01:17] <ubotu> mogo: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:17] <levander> Flannel: just a regular upgrade is telling me it's holding kernel packages back
[01:17] <vox754> coopster, do you have a picture of it? I don't have it but I'd like to see it.
[01:17] <Flannel> levander: or you can manually upgrade (install the kernel package explicitly)
[01:18] <crdlb> mojo, did you catch what I said?
[01:18] <levander> Flannel: why do I have to dist-upgrade to it and not just a regular upgrade? are my nvidia drivers going to break if i dist-upgrade to it?
[01:18] <mojo> crdlb: commas without spaces?
[01:18] <coopster> vox754, ermm, sure - http://images.google.com/images?q=g15
[01:18] <crdlb> mojo, yes
[01:18] <Flannel> levander: no, you'll be fine.
[01:18] <BryanJK_> okay
[01:18] <BryanJK_> im installed partition magic
[01:19] <Xero9364> Did you actually buy it?
[01:19] <crdlb> mojo, if you hover over the textbox the tooltip will tell you that
[01:19] <levander> Flannel: but, why is this a dist-upgrade and not a regular upgrade?
[01:19] <coopster> vox754, heh, look out for the random picture of a landmine victim in that list ;)
[01:19] <elementz> ravi, u got the links?
[01:19] <Xero9364> BryanJK_?
[01:19] <mojo> crdlb: DOH!!!  Thank you!
[01:19] <Xero9364> Did you actually buy PartitionMagic?
[01:20] <ravi> I'm pm'ing you elementz
[01:20] <ravi> you don't seem to be responding
[01:21] <elementz> ravi, does xchat support pm out of the box?
[01:21] <elementz> ravi, or would i need to enable it somewhere?
[01:21] <mojo> crdlb: it worked, thank you!  I guess i was not patient enough to wait for a tooltip ;)
[01:21] <levander> Nobody knows why upgrading the kernel in edgy now requires a dist-upgrade instead of the way it used to be with just a regular upgrade?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> elementz: /msg nick message
[01:21] <ikonia> elementz: yes it does
[01:21] <vox754> coopster, oh baby yeah!
[01:21] <kitche> elementz: it supports it you have to be registered to pm on freenode and identified
[01:21] <elementz> kk thx
[01:22] <ravi> elementz, it should be on the left pane, where you see "ubuntu servers" you'll also see my name underneath "#ubuntu"
[01:22] <coopster> vox754, yeah, i love this keyboard.  i just figured out how to make all of the keys work for binding shortcuts too =)
[01:22] <elementz> ravi, hmm u already pm ed me? cause its not there
[01:22] <Tonren> How do I stop mounted USB drives from appearing on my desktop?
[01:22] <elementz> ravi, got a registered nick though
[01:22] <jrib> !icons | Tonren
[01:22] <ubotu> Tonren: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[01:22] <Jaguar> You guys can't PM on this server without a registered account and privileges.
[01:23] <ravi> ravi> ok, has this drive been in a windows environment lately?
 k, has this drive been in a windows environment lately?
 are you getting these messages?
[01:23] <ravi> there elementz, sorry for the mess everyone
[01:23] <vox754> coopster, check the link again, I was referring to a girl that appeared with the random landmine victim...
[01:23] <Xero9364> Debian - Ubuntu - Kubuntu/Xubuntu
[01:23] <Xero9364> TEH CHAIN!!!!!!!!
[01:23] <bluecat9> Any vpnc guru's available? :)
[01:23] <Jaguar> Read your connection log for this server, you'll see your PM's were denied.
[01:23] <Tonren> jrib: But I *don't* want to see icons.
[01:23] <elementz> ravi, still nothing - am i blind or what?
[01:23] <Hansel> bluecat - was that vpn or vnc?
[01:23] <bluecat9> Hansel - vpnc :)
[01:23] <tjl30> is there a way to get back what I emptied from the trash bin?
[01:24] <Hansel> never heard of such a thing.  :)  I guess I can sit down.
[01:24] <Jaguar> elements, ravi: You can't PM each other on this server without a registered nick and privileges.
[01:24] <ravi> elementz, and a few other pms I can't get to now, anyways, has this Hard drive been in a windows environment?
[01:24] <AnxiousCo> Is there a command in the terminal that I can type to see of my printer is being detected? I'm having such difficulty with it...
[01:24] <Tonren> Oop, found it in kcontrol
[01:24] <Flannel> tjl30: technically, yes.  realistically? no.
[01:24] <jrib> Tonren: it's quite possible that you can disable them in the same place you enable them ;)  (yes, I read your question, this is the truth)
[01:24] <coopster> vox754, you mean vietnamese grandma?  :-o
[01:24] <bluecat9> Hansel - ..just trying to vpn into my office network ;) ..but it doesn't like my ubuntu box..
[01:24] <ravi> elementz: screw the pms, did you mount this on a windows box?
[01:24] <Arko> may i change files in ntfs partition?
[01:25] <ardchoille> ravi: you're not identified to nickserv, so your pm's to people who are identified won't go through
[01:25] <elementz> ravi, it has two win partitions - but i mainly used the third (fat) partition on my linux box
[01:25] <Jaguar> ardchoille: I've been trying to tell them that too :P
[01:25] <ravi> no, no, I mean did you mount this hard drive (usb) in windows recently?
[01:25] <ardchoille> Jaguar: lol
[01:25] <elementz> ravi, haven't mounted it on win recently - only on this linux box
[01:25] <vox754> coopster, http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dreamdesignsphotography.com/images/g15.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dreamdesignsphotography.com/glamour.htm&h=536&w=382&sz=36&hl=en&start=10&tbnid=u9JvjsKDhUmQlM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=94&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dg15%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den
[01:25] <Hansel> bluecat9 - well... it could be a number of things.  Does your office use a proxy?  If so you need to use proxy tunnel.  Do you have a home router?  If so you need to open up a port for VPN.
[01:25] <ardchoille> Some's in need of tinyurl
[01:25] <AnxiousCo> or can someone point me to a link that would tell me how to find a command to see if my printer is detected?
[01:26] <kitche> tjl30: you would have to do some forensic work to really get that file back if you needed to
[01:26] <Flannel> levander: the reason is dist-upgrade introduces new packages (the new linux-image-[version]  packages), and 'upgrade' doesn't do that
[01:26] <Hansel> AnxiousCo, cups.
[01:26] <ravi> ok, I want you to do mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/WHATEVERNAME you use here.
[01:26] <pschulz01_>  /join #ubuntu-au
[01:26] <AnxiousCo> !cups
[01:26] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:27] <luigi> hola
[01:27] <bluecat9> Hansel - I can vpn in to work from my Windows XP machine here but not my ubuntu machine.. :<
[01:27] <jturek> hey anybody here ever mess with ion3?
[01:27] <ravi> elementz: the problem is that you're getting a read error on the device at a low level. "device descriptor read/64, error -110" in dmesg
[01:27] <bluecat9> Hansel - I think it's because the cisco vpn concentrator wants to force the cisco win client "stateful firewall" ON and it cant with my linux cpn client, vpnc.
[01:27] <elementz> ravi, which could mean what?
[01:27] <bluecat9> Hansel - Error: "vpnc: quick mode response rejected: ISAKMP_N_INVALID_PAYLOAD_TYPE(1)
[01:27] <bluecat9> this means the concentrator did not like what we had to offer."
[01:27] <ravi> elementz: give me the message that occurs when you try to do mount -t vfat /dev/sda1/Whatever_mount_name
[01:28] <Hansel> bluecat9 - call your companies sysadmin.  :)
[01:28] <mojo> can someone reccomend an easy sniffer program and trace reader?  i am trying to troubleshoot a problematic tftp server
[01:28] <Hansel> or is that you?  heh
[01:28] <elementz> ravi, mount: mount point /mnt/LIN does not exist
[01:28] <ravi> elementz, it could mean everything from imminent failure to a simple permissions problem
[01:28] <elementz> ravi, damn
[01:29] <ravi> elementz, just use whatever mount point you had before /media/blah
[01:29] <ravi> elementz, you see what I mean?
[01:29] <DM|> Anyone know how to get BEAGLE working ?
[01:29] <bluecat9> Hansel - yeah.. i could do that but then they would just tell me to use my work laptop which works.. :)
[01:29] <bluecat9> Hansel - thx tho :)
[01:29] <elementz> ravi, i think i do - well, before i always had it under media/LIN - strange
[01:30] <ravi> gah, I've to get going, will someone help elementz with a trivial USB HD mount problem?
[01:30] <Arrick> evening all
[01:30] <Arrick> is there anyone here with experience with ASP.net?
[01:30] <elementz> ravi, thx anyways
[01:30] <AnxiousCo> why am I the only person with an HP that has a problem :P
[01:30] <Hansel> bluecat9 - most companies have policies and standards which don't allow non-company assets to touch the network (and for very good reasons).
[01:30] <vox754> coopster, this is what I was talking about http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wawo0.png
[01:31] <l90bpm> I have heard that most ppl have trouble out of lexmark
[01:31] <linuxnewbie756> anyone gotton gtk-gnuttella to work in edgy?
[01:31] <bluecat9> Hansel - since you mentioned vnc.. I am having an issue with it.. lol
[01:31] <Hansel> hah.
[01:31] <l90bpm> haven't tried to hook my hp up yet, that's next
[01:31] <linuxnewbie756> when i try to run it, it mentions the program being ancient
[01:31] <jrib> linuxnewbie756: did you do what the error message says?
[01:32] <linuxnewbie756> i did, but it didn't fix it, gtk-gnutella/0.96.1 (2006-02-22; GTK2; Linux i686) , right jrib?
[01:32] <gossar> can anyone help me with LVM ?
[01:32] <bluecat9> Hansel - i have been using Xtightvnc and it was working perfectly..
[01:32] <bluecat9> Hansel - until i upgraded to Feisty
[01:32] <jrib> linuxnewbie756: I don't know, but I helped someone else the other day with the issue and it worked for them.  pastebin what you did and I can see if I notice anything I guess
[01:33] <bluecat9> Hansel - ..now when i vnc in from a remote machine, I can connect, login, and get to a desktop... but when i type... my keyboard is like.. using an incorrect charset.. like when I press "w" it outputs "." --any ideas?
[01:33] <Hansel> what isnt working now?  any error msgs?
[01:33] <Flannel> gossar: Just create the LV at the end of your volume group
[01:33] <waxyfresh> whats the diffrence inbetween sigkill and kill-#?
[01:33] <linuxnewbie756> jrib, #ancient_version_force = "gtk-gnutella/0.96.1 (2006-02-22; GTK2; Linux i686)"
[01:33] <linuxnewbie756> jrib, , should that be i386?
[01:33] <bluecat9> Hansel - this result does not happen locally.. everything works correct locally.. its just when I vnc in that I have this issue..
[01:34] <Hansel> may be a directive in your vnc server config... maybe it is using an international character set?
[01:34] <bluecat9> Hansel - hmm good thought.. let me take a peek
[01:34] <gossar> Flannel: tnx, but what does that command look like? I can't find it in the man
[01:34] <crdlb> waxyfresh,  sigkill is a kill -9
[01:34] <jrib> linuxnewbie756: maybe without the #?
[01:34] <linuxnewbie756> maybe....
[01:34] <Flannel> gossar: uh, I don't know.  Are you not doing this with the installer?
[01:35] <gossar> no post-install
[01:35] <linuxnewbie756> jrib, haha, it worked, how could i have not saw that? thanks.
[01:35] <waxyfresh> crdlb: thanks i was a lil confussed i was listing to a rap song and he brght up some of those terms
[01:35] <jrib> linuxnewbie756: np
[01:35] <Flannel> gossar: hmm.  Ok, you might try asking in #lvm.  Well, assuming that channel's active.
[01:35] <enix> i have a digicam that i import photos via usb, there has not been a problem until now, it detects that the cam has been plugged in and when i click import i get this error message: An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the devi
[01:35] <enix> ce. any ideas?
[01:35] <crdlb> waxyfresh, lol
[01:35] <linuxnewbie756> jrib, i am having all sorts of firewall problems with gtk, azureus, and amule.
[01:36] <jexdawg> is it possible to use serpentine to burn a DATA cd? (*not* audio)? if so, how?
[01:37] <jrib> jexdawg: why not use something other than serpentine?
[01:37] <sbalneav> jexdawg: Do you already have a .iso file?
[01:37] <gossar> Flannel: tnx, #LVM has gone to sleep already
[01:37] <linuxnewbie756> someone help me with firewall issues in gtk-gnutella and azureus?
[01:37] <bluecat9> Hansel - inetd.conf: 5900 stream tcp nowait nobody.tty /usr/bin/Xtightvnc Xtightvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16
[01:37] <bluecat9> Hansel - what ya think?
[01:37] <sbalneav> If so, just right-click on the iso file, and select "Write to cd"
[01:37] <jexdawg> i don't want it as an iso.. i just want to make a cd with a like 100 mp3 files on it for my car
[01:38] <BIGEE> anyone here know how to get page zoom in firefox? similar to the opera browser
[01:38] <jexdawg> what should i use instead of serpentine?
[01:38] <jrib> !burn | jexdawg
[01:38] <ubotu> jexdawg: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[01:38] <Hansel> looks fine... not sure why you have to pass the resolution and depth parameters but looks fine.
[01:38] <AnxiousCo> !cups
[01:38] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:38] <Flannel> gossar: Actually, I'm not sure that's doable anyway.  the point of LVM is to abstract out physical disks.  Heck, LVs don't even have to be contiguous.
[01:38] <jexdawg> jrib - which do you recommend?
[01:38] <sbalneav> jexdawg: If you're running gnome, just insert a blank cd, it will pop open the cd creator.  Just drag-and-drop your mp3's there, then click on the "write to disk" button.
[01:38] <Flannel> gossar: there certainly isn't an option for it (that I see) in lvcreate
[01:39] <jexdawg> sbalneav, i love you
[01:39] <jexdawg> can i take it from a rhythmbox playlist, since i just spent like an hour doing that? haha
[01:39] <jrib> jexdawg: k3b is very good, but it pulls in the kde libs.  If you don't like that, then gnomebaker is good too.  If you just need to burn iso's, nautilus works great and the right click menu is very convenient as sbalneav was pointing out
[01:40] <jexdawg> ahh brilliant! i got it all in the easy cd creator whatchamathingermerjiggy
[01:41] <gossar> Flannel: the kludge seems to be create a hd partition and "lvcreate -L 512 lv1 /dev/hdb3"
[01:41] <linuxnewbie756> basically, gtk-gnutella won't connect at all, and when azureus works, it is really slow. i have charter cable
[01:41] <jexdawg> i'm glad you guys kick such inordinate amounts of ass... thank you
[01:41] <Flannel> gossar: I suppose you could do it by making a small physical volume on the end (however big you want /usr/src to be), then make your LV on that, then later make the rest of the disk a physical volume, which you then add to. (merge them into one logical group)
[01:41] <Flannel> gossar: but, even then, I don't believe your old partition will necessarily stay at the end
[01:42] <tecta> how can u play bin files in totem?
[01:42] <garnier> folks... how do I log into Ubuntu with root user??
[01:42] <sbalneav> linuxnewbie756: Is the cable modem connected directly to the linux box, or is it going through some kind of router/firewall appiance?
[01:42] <Pupeno2> garnier: that's not possible.
[01:42] <Hansel> garnier - sudo su...
[01:43] <Flannel> garnier: you don't.  The root user is locked.  Use sudo.
[01:43] <linuxnewbie756> sbalneav, router, linksys
[01:43] <coopster> garnier, as a general rule you shouldnt, you should just use sudo.
[01:43] <Pupeno2> garnier: the root account is disabled.
[01:43] <Flannel> Hansel: no.  Not sudo su.
[01:43] <Hansel> garnier - it's not recommended... its best to just sudo
[01:43] <garnier> what is sudo?
[01:43] <Hansel> You can use sudo su to become root and then set a passwd... it isn't recommended and it is kind of funky to "undo" the changes.
[01:43] <Hansel> sudo = super user do.. you can do root commands as a regular user.
[01:43] <coopster> garnier, sudo will run a command as root
[01:43] <coopster> garnier, you just run sudo <command>, and then type in your password when it asks
[01:43] <garnier> i'm trying to mv a file to /usr/local but i don't have permission
[01:44] <Hansel> cat /etc/sudoers to see the privs setup... likely ALL:ALL for your local account.
[01:44] <Xero9364> sudo passwd
[01:44] <Xero9364> Hax.
[01:44] <sbalneav> linuxnewbie756: You'll have to read up on how to set up your router for port forwarding then.  I beleive the gnutella site will have info as to what ports need to be forwarded.
[01:44] <coopster> garnier, sudo mv <file>  /usr/local/
[01:44] <Hansel> visudo to add additional sudo users and privs.
[01:44] <Flannel> !sudo | garnier
[01:44] <ubotu> garnier: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:44] <Flannel> Hansel: please, stop recommnding sudo su.  Root shells should be opened with `sudo -i`
[01:44] <Xero9364> sudo passwd would be fun for a hacker on a local box.
[01:45] <arrow> yeah, "sudo -i" is the easiest way
[01:45] <ned> why is that when i use apt-get or aptitude to do dist-upgrade or install a package, the servers are going fine at about 300kB/s, then they just slow to about 1kB/s?
[01:45] <garnier> ok.. thanks!!!
[01:45] <kramer3d-> anyone use  beryl here?
[01:45] <coopster> Xero9364, errm, how would that be any worse than the intrusion they've already successfully made at that point?
[01:45] <Xero9364> I wish i could.
[01:45] <Flannel> Xero9364: if they have sudo with full privs, a root account wouldnt matter
[01:45] <linuxnewbie756> hew, something happened, i got disconnected.
[01:45] <Hansel> Flannel - How about I continue to recommend it but put in my disclaimer like I did and allow people to make their own decisions?
[01:45] <pros1> sudo can kiss my pasty white butt. Go to /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and enable root login
[01:45] <linuxnewbie756> did you ever mention anything about my port forwarding azureus thing?
[01:45] <sbalneav> Flannel: Any reason why sudo su - is bad?  I've used it for years, but maybe I should break the habit?
[01:45] <Flannel> Hansel: there's no reason for sudo su for a root shell, use `sudo -i`
[01:46] <Xero9364> I wish i could use beryl but FGLRX doesnt support Radeon 9250
[01:46] <Hansel> Flannel - it works doesnt it?  If you'd like to have a sudo holy war please /msg me as I'm sure nobody here cares to read your rant.
[01:46] <coopster> Flannel, is that better or worse than sudo bash?
[01:46] <Flannel> coopster: sudo -i is much better than sudo bash.  Because they might not be using bash.
[01:46] <ned> why is that when i use apt-get or aptitude to do dist-upgrade or install a package, the servers are going fine at about 300kB/s, then they just slow to about 1kB/s?
[01:46] <CarlFK> after I install mysql server how do I set the root PW?
[01:46] <arrow> linuxnewbie756: what about port forwarding on azureus?
[01:46] <coopster> Flannel, heh, i beg to differ, if they run sudo bash i can guarantee that they're using bash. ;)  point taken though
[01:46] <Hansel> CarlFK - you start it in safe mode.  :)
[01:47] <pros1> I call for a jihad against the sudo infidel! Jihad!
[01:47] <tjl30> Well have a nice night everyone
[01:47] <linuxnewbie756> arrow, basicaly, i can't connect. i want to change the port somehow, it works, but only for a few seconds, and really really slow, and i have cable. so what would i need to do?
[01:47] <Jaguar> I'd be more concerned about the security implications, is there are such reason to change from one form to another or is it just preference?
[01:47] <ned> why do the servers start fast, then after a few seconds slow down?
[01:47] <Jaguar> are = any'
[01:48] <robbie_crash> pros1, $ sudo jihad -infidel
[01:48] <Flannel> CarlFK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  has a SQL section that walks you through that
[01:48] <arrow> linuxnewbie756: did you go into your routers firmware and attempt to port forward azureus?
[01:48] <Xero9364> I wish i could use beryl but FGLRX doesnt support Radeon 9250
[01:48] <kramer3d-> sorry
[01:48] <linuxnewbie756> arrow, i tried, but im not sure what to put. what do i put as the starting port, and the ending port?
[01:48] <kramer3d-> anyone use Beryl?
[01:48] <robbie_crash> Is there a way to change the way nautillus behaves so that folder renaming can be done with a click to select and then a click on the name to change it?
[01:48] <coopster> kramer3d-, i do.
[01:48] <AnxiousCo> I am following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceBreezy guide to install my printer but when I get to step 5 my printer is not autodetected (I have the same printer used in the example, but I'm in 6.10 if that makes a difference) I am using USB and not parallel, why could this be? I've been messing with it for hours
[01:48] <kramer3d-> I need to know if 512mb ram is enough for it
[01:48] <robbie_crash> kramer3d-, so do I
[01:48] <linuxnewbie756> arrow, what is your setup?
[01:48] <Jaguar> Xero9364: Have you tried Envy?
[01:49] <kramer3d-> coopster: robbie_crash, how much ram u got
[01:49] <robbie_crash> 1.5gb
[01:49] <coopster> kramer3d-, only way to find out is try.  i have a gig.
[01:49] <arrow> linuxnewbie756: let me find you a guide
[01:49] <kramer3d-> O_O
[01:49] <kramer3d-> hmmm
[01:49] <linuxnewbie756> arrow, ok
[01:49] <tecta> there is not totem-xine plugin for firefox???
[01:49] <coopster> kramer3d-, According to the Beryl FAQ, Beryl runs acceptably well on a GeForce 3/i855/Radeon 7500, 256MB of RAM, and a 1.2GHz processor. Version 7.1 of Xorg and a recent version of Mesa is recommended
[01:49] <coopster> kramer3d-, google knew the answer right away.
[01:49] <robbie_crash> I've also got a GeForce 7800 with 512, so I'm probably not the best guy to ask about minimum req's
[01:49] <AnxiousCo> !printer
[01:49] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:50] <tecta> !totem
[01:50] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:50] <kramer3d-> coopster: does it run smooth ?
[01:50] <kramer3d-> =/
[01:50] <sbalneav> AnxiousCo: First, you might want to check and see if the USB subsystem sees it.  From a commandline, try sudo lsusb
[01:50] <arrow> linuxnewbie756: try this one, and if you have any troubles come back and ask http://portforward.com/cportsnotes/azureus/azureus22.htm
[01:50] <coopster> kramer3d-, well, if it's "acceptable" with 256, i would imagine so.
[01:50] <kramer3d-> k
[01:50] <Jaguar> Xero9364: You know AIGLX supports the 9200...which means it should support the 9250, which is just a slightly better version but same general model... at least in my experience with those post-mod xx50 cards.
[01:50] <arrow> arrow:
[01:50] <richdurhm> hey guysi tireed to configure my logitech mx 600
[01:50] <coopster> kramer3d-, set it up and see.  worse case you end up removing it. ::shrug;:
[01:50] <arrow> arrow,
[01:50] <robbie_crash> Is there a way to change the way nautillus behaves so that folder renaming can be done with a click to select and then a click on the name to change it?
[01:50] <Xero9364> sudo make cheesepuffs --force
[01:51] <robbie_crash> like how it is in Windows.
[01:51] <kramer3d-> coopster: ok im upgrading to 6.10 atm
[01:51] <richdurhm> now it doesn't work anymore i plug my old mouse in it works but this one don't i fixed xorg to how ti was but it won't work still
[01:51] <AnxiousCo> sbalneav: that did not do anything
[01:51] <pros1> don't forget to ./configure cheesepuffs first
[01:51] <AnxiousCo> I ran it in terminal
[01:51] <Xero9364> argh
[01:51] <robbie_crash> ./configure cheesepuffs -extracheese
[01:51] <Xero9364> forgot to ./configure my cheese puffs!
[01:52] <Xero9364> Crap!
[01:52] <kramer3d-> o_O
[01:52] <sbalneav> AnxiousCo:  It must have done something.  Did it give an error message?
[01:52] <Flaminguican> make && make install cheesepuffs =)
[01:52] <richdurhm> any help please
[01:52] <richdurhm> with mouse
[01:52] <robbie_crash> mx600 is wireless?
[01:52] <Xero9364> ./configure cheesepuffs --crunchy --extracheese --500gramsfat
[01:52] <richdurhm> yes
[01:52] <AnxiousCo> sbalneav:  no, I pressed enter and the first time it asked for a password... then it show nothing, so I typed it again and it showed nothing, not even asking for a password
[01:53] <richdurhm> i connected it
[01:53] <Xero9364> sudo make cheesepuffs --force
[01:53] <robbie_crash> richdurhm, have you rebooted? or at least restarted x?
[01:53] <richdurhm> yes
[01:53] <richdurhm> bout 5 times
[01:53] <mojo> lmao @ http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=22474
[01:53] <robbie_crash> Bluetooth or rf?
[01:53] <richdurhm> i even reset my xorg.conf back to the old one i had to redo beryl and stuff
[01:53] <sbalneav> AnxiousCo: well, if it shows nothing, then as far as it's concerned, you've got nothing plugged into the USB ports, or the usb ports aren't enabled.
[01:53] <sbalneav> AnxiousCo: So that could be the problem
[01:54] <richdurhm> oh but if i have the mouse on reg mouse it still won't work
[01:54] <AnxiousCo> sbalneav:  aren't usb port enabled by default?
[01:54] <h3h_timo> does anyone know of an alternative to tversity for ubuntu?? or another way to stream divx/xvid files to my 360 over the network???
[01:54] <BryanJK_> umm, can someone help me? my ubuntu install is stuck at 97% "Cleaning up..."
[01:54] <richdurhm> but i can't even get it to work on windows anymore
[01:54] <richdurhm> for how long bryan
[01:54] <richdurhm> byr for how long?
[01:55] <AnxiousCo> !usb
[01:55] <BryanJK_> 1 hour
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <BryanJK_> or so
[01:55] <sbalneav> AnxiousCo: They are, for sure, but maybe they're disabled in the bios, or, possibly, you've got some kind of REALLY weird USB hardware that the kernel doesn't recognize.
[01:55] <richdurhm> usb are auto matuically configured
[01:55] <AnxiousCo> where in the bios menu would they be?
[01:55] <Jaguar> richdurhm: You know the mouse might be broken if you can't get it to work on any system :/
[01:55] <AnxiousCo> I looked but must have missed it
[01:55] <arpegius> can someone point me to the server md5s? can't find them...
[01:55] <richdurhm> dude it was working fine
[01:56] <AnxiousCo> sbalneav: where in the bios menu would they be?
[01:56] <Jaguar> richdurhm: But now you can't get it to work at all with any system?
[01:56] <richdurhm> yes true
[01:56] <richdurhm> damnit
[01:56] <sbalneav> AnxiousCo: LOL, darned if I know, I have no clue what computer you have.
[01:56] <richdurhm> but hiow would configuring linux break it
[01:56] <jrib> arpegius: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/MD5SUMS
[01:56] <BryanJK_> nvm
[01:56] <richdurhm> wth don't make sense
[01:56] <jrib> arpegius: for edgy
[01:57] <Jaguar> richdurhm: Mice do break, don't stop trying until you're sure, I'd hate for you to throw out a good mouse, but it's a possibility, I've had a few break on me.
[01:57] <jared__> I am trying to add a application to the menu using the Alacarte Menu Editor. I've tried with and without choosing "run in terminal" and it does nothing. The command I'm using to open it is wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Macromedia/Dreamweaver\ 8/Dreamweaver.exe
[01:57] <robbie_crash> richdurhm, you can't get the mouse to work in windows anymore?
[01:57] <jared__> that works when i do it in the terminal (not from the menu)
[01:57] <AnxiousCo> ok, I am going to go to try to plug in a different usb device to see if lsusb works then
[01:57] <arpegius> jrib: is feisty beta?
[01:57] <richdurhm> lol i had this mouse for like 2 months it wa 50 bucks
[01:57] <jrib> arpegius: it's still alpha I believe
[01:57] <richdurhm> im pissed
[01:57] <Jaguar> richdurhm: Might just be coincidence, my last mouse just stopped working one day when I turned my system on, never really knew why.
[01:57] <jrib> richdurhm: it's probably under warranty then, contact the manufacturer
[01:58] <Pelo> AnxiousCo,  on my bios there is a usb config menu under the advance section
[01:58] <jared__> does anyone know how to get it working in the menu?
[01:59] <mattyv> arpegius: Feisty is still alpha I beleive
[01:59] <jrib> jared__: don't use the ~ maybe
[01:59] <arpegius> jrib: mattyv thanx
[01:59] <jared__> doesn't the ~ just specify the folder?
[02:00] <jrib> jared__: yes, it's a suggestion, try /home/jared in place of it and see if that works
[02:00] <jared__> ok
[02:01] <teb> whoa, broadcom 43xx wireless working on ppc, usability of linux suddenly looks up for me
[02:01] <garnier> The Menu Applications > add/rem isn't appearing any more!...
[02:01] <jared__> hey! that worked :) thanks
[02:01] <garnier> why?
[02:02] <Welfaric> Hello, I have 4 drives in my pc, so i took the power off the pri Sata, pri ide, pri slave ide and I left only the new one for Ubuntu the sec slave. Then I loaded Ubuntu and it all works fine. So I put the power back on the other 3 drives and then the boot hangs awhile and then I have no internet and the mouse and keyboard do not respond very well. So I took the Sata drive out during bios boot up and it is ok again..Is there an issue with Ubun
[02:02] <garnier> The Menu Applications > add/rem isn't appearing any more!... why?
[02:02] <seed_> is kqemu only useful if my cpu supports virtualization?
[02:02] <bruenig> garnier, run gksu gnome-app-install
[02:03] <Jaguar> Welfaric: You might have two drives with boot flags, that = bad.
[02:03] <Jaguar> Welfaric: Why did you remove power from those other drives?
[02:03] <linuxnewbie756> arrow, i don't think that tutorial helped me. it keeps saying "Testing port 56123 ... NAT Error - Connection attempt to 75.136.223.186:56123 aborted: timed out after 20sec.
[02:04] <arrow> linuxnewbie756: I'll try to walk you through it then
[02:04] <linuxnewbie756> arrow, ok, thank you.
[02:04] <garnier> bruenig, incorrect password... isn't my password I have to type?
[02:04] <Amperage> probably unplugged the power to make sure he didn't install ubuntu on the wrong drive :)
[02:04] <bruenig> garnier, yes it is
[02:04] <Welfaric> Jaguar during boot I use the boot menu from the bios to choise the sec slave drive = Ubuntu (I do have Suse on the pri ide drive)
[02:04] <garnier> bruenig, 
[02:05] <tehArtist> Does anyone have a few min to help me out?
[02:05] <arrow> linuxnewbie756: do you know how to do a private conversation?
[02:05] <bruenig> !anyone | tehArtist
[02:05] <ubotu> tehArtist: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:05] <Welfaric> Yes Amperage i took the power off so I didnt go to incorrect drive
[02:05] <garnier> bruenig, is there other way?
[02:05] <bruenig> garnier, if you don't know your password then no
[02:05] <tehArtist> ...
[02:05] <Jaguar> Welfaric: I dunno, I don't have much experience with juryrigging installs like that but it just doesn't sound kosher lol.
[02:05] <mrbond82> Is there a way to make aptitude packages from a .tar.gz file just like rpm -ta blah.tar.gz ?
[02:06] <garnier> bruenig, my password I know... but it isn't recognizing it
[02:06] <bruenig> mrbond82, there is but it is a bit more involved, you can ./configure it then make, then checkinstall
[02:06] <Welfaric> Jaguar is it unusal to boot from the bios to a drive instead of dual boot ?
[02:06] <garnier> bruenig, it's the same password I logged into Ubuntu isn't?
[02:06] <mrbond82> bruenig - oh is that all? hehe
[02:06] <Xero9364> sudo make me a sandwich --force
[02:07] <bruenig> garnier, yes unless you setup an password for root
[02:07] <linuxnewbie756> arrow, did you get that?
[02:07] <garnier> bruenig, i did not this
[02:07] <bruenig> garnier, can you sudo apt-get update, does your password work there
[02:07] <Welfaric> So in generl Ubuntu should be ok when it is loaded on a pc with both Sata and IDE drives when Ubuntu is not on the Sata drive ?
[02:08] <arrow> linuxnewbie756: like this?
[02:08] <Jaguar> Welfaric: Well even if you boot from the bios you're still going to hit grub at the beginning of the drive you're booting to, I honestly don't know why it would hang and kill your net with the new drives (unless the hardware detection is getting confused with the sudden additions) but I'd suggest reinstalling it with all your hardware active, just be sure to pay attention to what partition you're installing on.
[02:08] <garnier> bruenig, it is done, but the menu did not appear yet
[02:08] <linuxnewbie756> arrow, i'm slightly confused.
[02:08] <Amperage> I recently installed edgy 6.10 on my acer laptop. has 1.73ghz core duo processor / 512mb ram. Overall the machine seems really laggy. I'm encoding a dvd to xvid currently and even the mouse is laggy. I can understand applications loading/running a bit slower in general but I wouldn't think the mouse would lag during an encode. any suggestions?
[02:08] <bruenig> garnier, ok but your password worked right?
[02:08] <coopster> Welfaric, I have had ubuntu loaded on a sata drive when there are IDE drives.  Is there a problem when you have more than one SATA drive installed, or when you have SATA and IDE?
[02:08] <tehArtist> Yeah, the sarcastic/rude bot response is the main reason I dislike the *nix community..none the less..I attempted to install vmware via add/remove programs and it froze, so I closed the windows. When i tried to re open it notified me that it was busy. I rebooted and when I reboot it wants me to update vmware but it freezes while doing so, if I attempt to remove the packages that are installed for vm ware, it tells me it cannot preform the
[02:08] <tehArtist> operation and that there has been an error. Any ideas?
[02:08] <mrbond82> Can anyone tell me how to cleanup my aptitude I keep getting a dpkg error processing graphviz-cairo errors were encountered etc.. I can't get rid of it :(
[02:09] <garnier> bruenig, yes
[02:09] <linuxnewbie756> arrow, well, i have to go, i will try it tommorow.
[02:09] <arrow> linuxnewbie756: lets talk in the private channel, everyone here doesn't want to here how to portforward azureus
[02:09] <linuxnewbie756> thanks arrow
[02:09] <bruenig> tehArtist, the bot response is necessary, else you have 1000 people responding with yes which floods the channel and is bad
[02:09] <arrow> linuxnewbie756:np
[02:09] <bruenig> garnier, are you sure you did "gksu gnome-app-install" right
[02:09] <garnier> bruenig, I'll try again
[02:10] <Welfaric> coopster I was wondering if having both IDE and Sata and loading Ubuntu on the ide drive would be an issue
[02:10] <Jaguar> tehArtist: It's not nice to insult people you're trying to petition for help, none of us have to be here, we're doing this out of the kindness of our hearts.
[02:10] <garnier> bruenig, humpf... incorrect password
[02:10] <bruenig> garnier, it says incorrect password or does it just not work
[02:11] <garnier> bruenig, incorrect password
[02:11] <waxyfresh> tehArtist: how are trying to instal
[02:11] <Pelo> Welfaric,  not an issue, you just have to spcify your boot hdd in the bios
[02:11] <coopster> Welfaric, it shouldn't matter which drive you install ubuntu on to.  if you have your bios set up to boot from a drive other than the one you install ubuntu on to, you either need to take extra steps to set up GRUB on the drive that your bios boots, or just use the bios boot priorities and change the drive to ubuntu's either permanently or just when you want to boot ubuntu
[02:11] <bruenig> garnier, ok try "sudo gnome-app-install"
[02:11] <Jaguar> tehArtist: Did you get any specific errors from your installer?
[02:11] <tehArtist> waxyfresh, via add/remove programs..
[02:12] <carpediem> tehArtist: fwiw, I really like the *nix community....but I *hate* the bot too.
[02:12] <garnier> bruenig, "sudo: gnome-app-install: command not found"
[02:12] <Xero9364> *nix > microsoft*
[02:12] <robbie_crash> Is there a way to change the way nautillus behaves so that folder renaming can be done with a click to select and then a click on the name to change it?
[02:12] <IdleOne> garnier, this is the command   gksu gnome-app-install
[02:12] <bruenig> garnier, yeah that is what I suspected, perhaps it is called something else, do "sudo apt-get install gnome-app-install" to make sure it is installed
[02:12] <waxyfresh> truing updateing via the command line
[02:13] <waxyfresh> try*
[02:13] <mikefoo> Xero9364: for a desktop, everyday use I use windows. but I always have a remote shell open.
[02:13] <Amperage> any ideas on why the system would run so sluggish?
[02:13] <Welfaric> coopster I have to disable the sata drive in bios and boot during bios to the Ubuntu drive (I didnt set up dual boot) If I do not disable the Sata drive I have not internet and the kb / mouse are real sluggish
[02:13] <bruenig> carpediem, that is ridiculous. Do you know how much harder it would be to answer questions without the bot. Having to type out all the links everytime.
[02:13] <tehArtist> carpediem: My experience with the community has been horrible, I'm far from a newbie yet I still get the 'flamish/rude' responses towards any question I ask. I've been programming for windows for a while now, and want to move to *nix, but the main response i get while asking questions has basically been 'Go f**k yourself' it's annoying.
[02:14] <waxyfresh> tehArtist: type sudo aptitude
[02:14] <BryanJK_> uugh
[02:14] <carpediem> bruenig: I do.  I've been on IRC for over a decade.  And, to me, its worth the time.  If I wanted impersonal interactions, I go to the web.
[02:14] <tehArtist> I don't know much about the *nix environment, but google doesn't always explain an answer that well.
[02:14] <Amperage> system monitor shows both processors being utilized but they newer hit 100%
[02:14] <BryanJK_> my ubuntu like freezes as soon as it gets to the sign in screen...
[02:14] <Amperage> never*
[02:14] <NkuMike> Hey could someone walk me through the extra partioning that needs to be done to prevent the grub 18 error when using a large hard disk in an old computer?
[02:14] <sethk> tehArtist, what do you need to know?
[02:14] <bruenig> tehArtist, the bot response is better for you. If you just ask your question, you are far more likely to get an answer than if you single out one person who may or may not know how to do it. It cuts down on chit chat and gets to the real problem which I presume is the reason you are in here.
[02:14] <sethk> tehArtist, I mean at the moment
[02:14] <garnier> bruenig, it is installing by CD
[02:14] <bruenig> carpediem, well you aren't on the supporting end, you are on the asking end
[02:15] <Pelo> tehArtist,  I've never seen any helper here tell anyone to go and eff themselves or anything related
[02:15] <waxyfresh> tehArtist:  go to a command line
[02:15] <garnier> bruenig, it is finished
[02:15] <XiXaQ> tehArtist, there are thousands of books about unix and posix. You can't become a unix programmer on irc.
[02:15] <carpediem> bruenig: rarely am I on the asking end.
[02:15] <garnier> bruenig, well.. it worked!!! thanks
[02:15] <bruenig> carpediem, because if I had to type out restrictedformats link 200 times a day, I would not be on here
[02:15] <bruenig> garnier, yeah you didn't have it installed I guess
[02:15] <tehArtist> XiXaQ: that is the exact response and attitude that annoys me...
[02:15] <XiXaQ> tehArtist, those kinds of messages that you refer to isn't very common here.
[02:16] <garnier> bruenig, but it was bofore...
[02:16] <garnier> I dont know
[02:16] <garnier> what happened
[02:16] <coopster> Welfaric, hrmm, well, that shouldn't happen :)  Did you install ubuntu with the sata drive disabled or enabled?
[02:16] <Welfaric> coopster unpluged
[02:16] <Welfaric> coopster so disabled
[02:17] <jon9314> can anyone point me to a guide to install kvirc 3.2.6
[02:17] <andruk> tehartist: i have seen that on other channels (namely debian). never here. so fire away!
[02:17] <Welfaric> coopster i didnt want to load ubuntu on the wrong drive so i unplugged my oother 3
[02:17] <carpediem> bruenig: I understand your point of view.  I've written my bot, so it's not like I'm just some whiner, though.  They are just way overused.  Often, someone sends a command even when it doesn't remotely answer the question.
[02:17] <XiXaQ> tehArtist, well, that's just the way it is. I'm not trying to be rude, but unix is complex. And this is a Ubuntu channel. There are many other channels for linux/unix development and for many different languages.
[02:17] <Pelo> jon9314, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[02:17] <bruenig> carpediem, well improper use of anything is bad
[02:17] <yurimxpxman> how do you mount a solaris partition in ubuntu/
[02:17] <yurimxpxman> ?
[02:17] <IdleOne> cafuego, tried installing googleearth from your  feisty repo installed fine but when I tried to run the app it rebooted my machine.
[02:17] <sethk> yurimxpxman, first you need to compile and load the kernel module that supports that type of file system
[02:17] <garnier> bruenig, I downloaded a game into /usr/local/games
[02:18] <garnier> bruenig, and it doesn't appear at app add/remove
[02:18] <robbie_crash> I've been on IRC for 12 years, and I can't recall being in any sort of support channel and having there be no bot. Most of the ubuto links carry the answers people are looking for, but aren't a hand hold through the entire process of setting up whatever it is people are looking to fix
[02:18] <coopster> Welfaric, well, that's probably the problem.  it's possible that ubuntu has configured some of the devices with addresses that are no longer valid with the SATA drive enabled.  SATA drives come online in a first come first serve kinda way, and it may mess up some USB devices
[02:18] <garnier> bruenig, how do I uninstall it?
[02:18] <yurimxpxman> perhaps I'll just compile the latest kernel.. I've been wanting to anyways :)
[02:18] <Pelo> yurimxpxman,  same as anything else I expect just specify it's a solaris format  ...   sudo mount /dev/... solaris(?)  /mountpoint
[02:18] <coffeegrindah> would there be any reason why I can't seem to apt-get qemu?
[02:18] <robbie_crash> But if someone had to retype the answers to the same questions 20 times a day they'd go mental
[02:19] <bruenig> garnier, add/remove only (I believe, I never use it) keeps track of the things you install via the repositories or debs, to uninstall it just delete all the files in /usr/local/games
[02:19] <GMWeezel> Why is there a delay when ejecting CDs on Ubuntu?
[02:19] <yurimxpxman> Pelo: I tried sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/solaris -t solaris, and several others, with no success
[02:19] <Pelo> coffeegrindah,  not in the repos ?  try with synaptic you can search for it in there
[02:19] <yurimxpxman> I must just need the module
[02:19] <tehArtist> waxyfresh: 'sudo aptitude' gives me an error.
[02:19] <CarlFK> like: how do I reset my mysql root pw?  (something about safe mode...)
[02:19] <coopster> Welfaric, you probably don't need to re-install ubuntu, i'm sure it's possible to track down those bugs, but it's a somewhat involved process.  if you just finished installing, i know the easiest way would be to re-install with all the drives plugged in, and see if that fixes it.
[02:19] <yurimxpxman> tehArtist: What's the error?
[02:19] <sbalneav> GMWeezel: To give it time to unmount the cd.
[02:19] <robbie_crash> things like installing nvidia drivers comes up every 15 minutes in here, nobody would get any help if the helpers were constantly telling people how to install those drivers
[02:19] <coffeegrindah> pelo I've tried,
[02:19] <IdleOne> coffeegrindah, you enabled universe right?
[02:19] <garnier> bruenig, hummm... tks
[02:19] <coffeegrindah> yup
[02:19] <andruk> ciffeegrindah: check to make sure that the correct repositories are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:19] <bruenig> yurimxpxman, don't know if this is necessary but generally the syntax is mount -t whatever /dev/whatever /mount
[02:19] <Pelo> yurimxpxman, man mount , see if you have solaris support
[02:19] <BryanJK_> heres a quick question, how can I access my windows ntfs partitions through ubuntu?
[02:19] <coopster> Welfaric, you should be able to recognize the correct drive by the partitions and whatnot you made during the install you just did
[02:19] <IdleOne> !info qemu
[02:19] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3630 kB, installed size 9860 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[02:20] <Pelo> coffeegrindah,  is that app in the packages ?
[02:20] <carpediem> robbie_crash: There was no bot on #gentoo when I was a regular there, and people got better answers as a result, imho.
[02:20] <ctkroeker> Does anyone know of a decent web based audio player that'll play my mp3 files online?
[02:20] <coffeegrindah> I've spent most of teh day chrooted and installing stuff to a squashfs
[02:20] <robbie_crash> !ntfs | BryanJK_
[02:20] <ubotu> BryanJK_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:20] <jon9314> i know how to do the things in that guide when i add the repositories for kvirc it shows an upgrade is avalible but won't upgrade
[02:20] <Xero9364> sudo make me a sandwich --force
[02:20] <IdleOne> coffeegrindah, it is in the repos
[02:20] <Welfaric> coopster, you and jaguar have come to just about/ if not exact conclusion..I need to have all my drives enabed when I load Ubuntu, so it seems like I need to bite the bullet and know which drive i want Ubuntu on
[02:20] <Amperage> how bout performance issues? that asked about alot?
[02:20] <Xero9364> DO IT MINION!!! DO IT!!!!!!!
[02:20] <bruenig> !info mozilla-mplayer | ctkroeker
[02:20] <ubotu> ctkroeker: mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[02:20] <tehArtist> yurimxpxman: the error is dpkg was interrupted. you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[02:20] <Xero9364> Edgy Eft
[02:20] <juicy> hey
[02:20] <XiXaQ> tehArtist, you should always spesify the error message that you receive. An error doesn't help much.
[02:20] <andruk> Xero9364...tone it down some dude
[02:21] <yurimxpxman> tehArtist: did you run that command? (as sudo)
[02:21] <Jaguar> Welfaric: Sorry I couldn't help, I'm not all knowing...yet :P
[02:21] <bruenig> tehArtist, yeah it tells you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[02:21] <coopster> carpediem, robbie_crash, et al: the bot is here.  sometimes he helps, sometimes he pisses people off.  when it comes down to it, the issue is with the person issuing bot commands, the bot itself is a good resource.  not sure exactly what conclusion this discussion is hoping to come to...
[02:21] <coffeegrindah> ahh tha'd be why .. #'ed out
[02:21] <yurimxpxman> and btw, no, it doesn't list solaris in the supported types. I'm downloading the latest kernel now :)
[02:21] <ctkroeker> Umm, and also for other people on different OS's. kinda a php or javscript or ajax (something like that) based...
[02:21] <robbie_crash> People get great answers in here to everything, the howto links from ubotu are great, and more indepth and explanitory than what you're going to get in here because they can be,
[02:21] <garnier> bruenig, sorry.... but.. how do I remove a not empty directory? rm -f?
[02:22] <bronze_0_1> rm -rf
[02:22] <bruenig> garnier, rm -r
[02:22] <XiXaQ> Welfaric, what is the problem? Missing disks in Computer?
[02:22] <Welfaric> Thank you coopster and Jaguar and have a great ...
[02:22] <bruenig> and f if you want f
[02:22] <garnier> TKS
[02:22] <carpediem> coopster: yeah, that's true.  I probably wouldn't mind it so much if I didn't see people getting the wrong answers.
[02:22] <garnier> TKS a lot
[02:22] <andruk> ubotu: folding@home
[02:22] <tehArtist> bruenig: ok i ran 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and it prompted for wassword, I entered and i'm back at the CLI insertion point
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about folding@home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <garnier> someone here uses VMWare???
[02:22] <XiXaQ> garnier, yes.
[02:22] <coopster> carpediem, yeah, but that's the wonder that is community support.  if you see someone getting the wrong answer, feel free to jump in and demonstrate that you know more than the helper.  we'll watch and enjoy. ;)
[02:22] <bruenig> tehArtist, ok so dpkg is fixed
[02:23] <Amperage> I use the vmware player. not the full package
[02:23] <sbalneav> coopster++
[02:23] <bronze_0_1> carpediem: remember IRC support is a contact sport!
[02:23] <carpediem> bronze_0_1: heh
[02:23] <bruenig> !vmware
[02:23] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:23] <garnier> XiXaQ, can I increase the size of shared HD in a already created VM?
[02:23] <robbie_crash> andruk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101817
[02:23] <bronze_0_1> ;-)
[02:23] <robbie_crash> that walked me through it perfectly
[02:23] <XiXaQ> garnier, what do you mean "shared HD"?
[02:23] <shonen> I'm trying to determine weither or not I have 64-bit ubuntu installed. I suspect I may have downloaded and installed the 32-bit SMP version by accident. when I do the command uname -a, the output is " 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux".
[02:23] <ctkroeker> does anyone  know of a web-based MP3 player that other people can use in any browser to stream those files?
[02:24] <garnier> XiXaQ, the size of disk i shared with VM
[02:24] <Welfaric> XiXaQ not really if I have my Sata drive enabled when I boot from teh bios to my sec slave Ubuntu drive I have not internet and the kb / mouse are real slow, but if I boot with teh Sata disabled everything is ok , AND the answer seems to be becasue I loaded Ubuntu with my other 3 drives having no power plugged into them
[02:24] <crdlb> ctkroeker, ampache
[02:24] <XiXaQ> garnier, do you mean shared, or are you actually talking about a virtual disk?
[02:24] <sbalneav> Well, gotta concentrate on the edubuntu handbook.  Night all.
[02:24] <crdlb> ctkroeker, or mpd + phpmp
[02:24] <sbalneav> /close
[02:24] <garnier> XiXaQ, yes... virtual disk!!
[02:24] <tehArtist> Ok, I clicked the adept notifier to install the 1 update, and I get an error that the database is locked
[02:25] <robbie_crash> Is there a way to change the way nautillus behaves so that folder renaming can be done with a click to select and then a click on the name to change it?
[02:25] <bruenig> shonen, one way to test is with the packages in your repositories. If you make sure all the repositories are enabled and do sudo apt-cache show sun-java6-plugin or any other package that isn't available in 64 bit
[02:25] <XiXaQ> garnier, both is possible, you see. Let me have a look in the server console. I don't remember :)
[02:25] <ctkroeker> checking them out
[02:25] <yurimxpxman> !virtualization
[02:25] <coopster> shonen, the i686 part means you have 32 bit.  i believe you want x64, afaik
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualization - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <levander> Where can I find information like what the advantage is of upgrading the kernel from 2.6.17-10 to 2.6.17-11?
[02:25] <robbie_crash> I guess that's probably more of a gnome question isn't it?
[02:25] <waxyfresh> tehArtist: sorry im back
[02:25] <garnier> XiXaQ, ok.. i wait
[02:25] <Jaguar> tehArtist: You aren't prompted for a password? A locked database usually means you don't have rights (ie, not root).
[02:25] <coopster> levander, i bet you can find it if you google for ubuntu  2.6.17-11 changelog
[02:26] <yurimxpxman> levander: Why wouldn't you use 2.6.20.x?
[02:26] <carpediem> ctkroeker: I'm not aware of a web based mp3 player.  Any machine with Java Web Start can web start jlGui with http://www.javazoom.net/jlgui/jws/jlgui_jnlp.jsp?skin=http%3A//www.javazoom.net/jlgui/jws/skins/sony.wsz&song=http%3A//www.javazoom.net/jlgui/jws/netradio.m3u&showplaylist=true&showequalizer=true
[02:26] <yurimxpxman> levander: btw, it's in the change log at http://www.kernel.org
[02:26] <levander> yurimxpxman: is that the latest in the Ubuntu edgy repostories?
[02:26] <reap`laptabulous> does anyone know if a creative labs x-fi platinum would hang ubuntu?
[02:26] <waxyfresh> anyone constantly loose thier dslconnection on  6.10?
[02:26] <dougb> anyone here with broadcom information?
[02:26] <dougb> *knowledge, not information
[02:26] <levander> yurimxpxman: there's no ubuntu specific changelog?
[02:26] <Kalle_> Hey I just installed drapper server LAMP, but I can't reallyy install anything, everytime I use ./configure I get - configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:26] <yurimxpxman> levandor: I don't know whether it's in the Ubuntu repositories or not.. I just get mine from http://www.kernel.org
[02:26] <Jaguar> tehArtist: Unless of course there is another instances of the update trying to run, that could lock it up too I believe.
[02:26] <bruenig> !wifi | dougb
[02:26] <ubotu> dougb: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:26] <XiXaQ> garnier, no, it doesn't look like you can. But it's possible to make a very large disk and have it grow as you put data in it. That is, you create a 100GB virtual disk, and it won't consume more than the actual data.
[02:27] <yurimxpxman> levander: not that I know of.. it's hard telling what compile options Ubuntu uses
[02:27] <bruenig> Kalle_, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:27] <levander> yurimxpxman: I just stick with stuff in the Ubuntu repositories
[02:27] <yurimxpxman> levander: it'd be best to compile your own, custom kernel if you're going to upgrade it
[02:27] <dougb> bruenig: it is more than just wifi.  i installed the driver via ndiswrapper, but it says that it is using the alternate bcm43xx driver, even though i have "rmmod" it and i have blacklisted it
[02:27] <reap`laptabulous> dies anyone here use a creative labs x-fi card in ubuntu??
[02:27] <XiXaQ> garnier, you can also add new disks and mount them as you wish. You can have another partition on a virtual disk mounted in /home/youruser/newpartition, for instance.
[02:27] <levander> isn't there some what to view changelogs for packages using apt?
[02:27] <reap`laptabulous> does
[02:27] <yurimxpxman> reap`laptabulous: the X-Fi drivers haven't been released yet
[02:27] <mrbond82> I have ubuntu 6.10 but the gnumeric has a bug in the solver can i install the older gnumeric and where can i find it.. I need 1.6.3
[02:27] <garnier> XiXaQ, how do I do this?
[02:28] <XiXaQ> garnier, be more spesific please?
[02:28] <nitro4ce> i have accidentally removed the volume control applet (mixer) to never again load at startup. how can i fix this?
[02:28] <Kalle_> Thx looks like it did the trick
[02:28] <reap`laptabulous> yuri: would it possibly cause gnome to lock up??
[02:28] <Kalle_> :D
[02:28] <yurimxpxman> levander: I don't believe so, no. Just look at the change log on kernel.org for that kernel. I believe it's very minor security updates.
[02:28] <garnier> XiXaQ, how do I create a new virtual disk in my VM?
[02:28] <coopster> yurimxpxman, erm, really?  how is a custom kernel better than the ubuntu repository one + modules?  reconfiguring and recompiling is a lot of work for little or no benefit, afaik
[02:28] <crdlb> nitro4ce, right click the panel, add to panel
[02:28] <shonen> bruenig,coopster: sudo apt-cache show sun-java6-plugin returns "W: Unable to locate package sun-java6-plugin", however the fact that my kernel tells me i'm running 686 not x64 worries me. is there another way I can verify this one way or another?
[02:28] <XiXaQ> garnier, which VMWare package are you running?
[02:28] <tehArtist> Adept updater is giving me an error Database Locked, how do i go about fixing this ?
[02:28] <yurimxpxman> reap`laptabulous: possibly. A good rule of thumb is to avoid X-Fi and linux at the moment, since it isn't supported anyway ;)
[02:28] <nitro4ce> crdlb: the applet is not there
[02:29] <kghunt> can anyone help since i installed ubuntu vista fails to load on "crcdisk.sys"
[02:29] <bruenig> shonen, try sudo apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree
[02:29] <garnier> XiXaQ, 5.0, pack 13124
[02:29] <XiXaQ> garnier, player, workstation, server?
[02:29] <yurimxpxman> coopster: you can compile your own options and get the /latest/ kernel if you compile it yourself
[02:29] <levander> yurimxpxman: i just found it, "aptitude changelog <package names>"
[02:29] <crdlb> nitro4ce, did you put it on the applet blacklist in gconf-editor ?
[02:29] <garnier> XiXaQ, Workstation
[02:29] <reap`laptabulous> yuri: but its so nice on the windows partition :(...ill have to take it out and try it out
[02:29] <Amperage> X-Fi doesn't work on alot of hardware platforms also
[02:29] <yurimxpxman> levander: thanks. I've wondered that myself :)
[02:29] <Jaguar> tehArtist: You have to be far more specific with such a question, it is helpful to give the steps you take to get to that error, and copy and pasting the error is always helpful as well, you can use pastebin if the output is too long for IRC.
[02:30] <yurimxpxman> reap`laptabulous: creative's working on the linux drivers right now.. it should just be a couple more weeks until they're released. There may even be a beta right now
[02:30] <shonen> bruenig: that returns an actual result.
[02:30] <bruenig> shonen, then 32 bit it is
[02:30] <XiXaQ> garnier, well, I haven't used that for a good while. But you should have a dialog which lets you edit the machines virtual hardware. There you can create a new virtual disk.
[02:30] <shonen> ugh!
[02:30] <levander> The changelog for 2.6.17.11 of linux-image-generic says "ABI bump to -10." Anybody know what an ABI is, and why'd they'd have to bump it?
[02:30] <shonen> ok....well, at least the cd is half downloaded :/
[02:30] <carpediem> kghunt: you didn't let Ubuntu resize your ntfs partition did you?
[02:31] <kghunt> Can someone help me with a vista/ubuntu issue
[02:31] <garnier> XiXaQ, but I think I have to turn off the VM before, isn't?
[02:31] <bruenig> Jaguar, you see you are the reason he hates *nix with your wanting more informatin
[02:31] <bruenig> !someone | kghunt
[02:31] <ubotu> kghunt: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:31] <XiXaQ> garnier, there is also a #VMware channel on this network. That might be a more appropritate channel for those kinds of questions.
[02:31] <XiXaQ> garnier, that's correct.
[02:31] <garnier> XiXaQ, i'm in there... but anyone answer!!
[02:31] <XiXaQ> garnier, patience is a virtue :)
[02:31] <Jaguar> bruenig: :P, I could always guess, `sudo rm -rf /` to fix that database problem.
[02:31] <levander> Is there a kernel channel on freenode?
[02:31] <carpediem> kghunt: you didn't let Ubuntu resize your ntfs partition did you?
[02:32] <kghunt> Sorry.. Since installing Ubuntu 6.10 vista fails to load and hangs on "crcdisk.sys"
[02:32] <bruenig> !vmware | garnier I believe there is a link for creating virtual disks
[02:32] <ubotu> garnier I believe there is a link for creating virtual disks: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:32] <garnier> XiXaQ, hehehhe.... ok, I'll turn off.. if it work, i come back here
[02:32] <yurimxpxman> reap`laptabulous: The drivers are due in the second quarter of this year
[02:32] <XiXaQ> garnier, great! :)
[02:32] <kghunt> I used qparted to resize the partition
[02:32] <shonen> anyone have a favorite graphical ftp client?
[02:32] <Dacvak> Hi there. I have a question. My windows partitioned hard drive is severely messed up. I booted up Ubuntu with the BootCD. Is there a way I can access the files on the Windows partition?
[02:33] <yurimxpxman> shonen: I usually use Nautilus
[02:33] <bruenig> !gftp
[02:33] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-14ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[02:33] <carpediem> kghunt: which uses ntfsresize.  Read on the web about ntsfresize and kernel 2.6.  It's not a good combination.
[02:33] <garnier> ubotu, it talks about VM Player and Server only.. and about VM Workstation?
[02:33] <BryanJK1> Why does ubuntu say I can't install Wine?
[02:33] <garnier> bruenig, do u know?
[02:33] <yurimxpxman> garnier: ubotu's a bot ;)
[02:33] <Jaguar> ubotu, tell garnier about yourself
[02:33] <BryanJK1> "Wine Windows Emulator cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)"
[02:33] <bruenig> BryanJK1, ho are you trying to install it
[02:33] <bruenig> how*
[02:33] <yurimxpxman> !ubotu
[02:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:34] <BryanJK1> throught he Add/Remove Programs in the Gnome applications menu
[02:34] <bruenig> garnier, I have done it before, but I believe I was using player
[02:34] <Dacvak> Any idea how I can access my Windows partition hard drive in CDBoot Ubuntu?
[02:34] <erichj> !girls
[02:34] <garnier> huahu ubotu is a bot!
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <kghunt> carpediem : is there a fix that you know off that doesnt involve reinstalling ubuntu.
[02:34] <bruenig> BryanJK1, run sudo apt-get install wine
[02:34] <BryanJK1> kay
[02:34] <yurimxpxman> !idiot
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idiot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <Jaguar> garnier: He also sent you a PM :)
[02:34] <zen> hey, what does it mean when it says: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[02:34] <nitro4ce> crdlb: i cant run the command gconf-editor
[02:34] <carpediem> kghunt: the problem usually isn't with Ubuntu, it's with your NTFS partition.
[02:34] <andruk> !andruk
[02:34] <garnier> yes
[02:34] <BryanJK1> "E: Package wine has no installation candidate"
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about andruk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <bruenig> zen, they aren't going to be installed
[02:34] <bruenig> !info wine
[02:34] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[02:34] <zen> bruenig, why though?
[02:34] <yurimxpxman> !kde4
[02:34] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[02:34] <bruenig> BryanJK1, do you have the universe repo enabled
[02:35] <crdlb> nitro4ce, you on gnome?
[02:35] <BryanJK1> no :|
[02:35] <BryanJK1> how do you enable it?
[02:35] <nitro4ce> crdlb: yes
[02:35] <zen> bruenig, is it because I fubar'd something, or is it a decision someone else made?
[02:35] <bruenig> zen, I don't know, maybe you did something to your current kernel and updating would destroy that
[02:35] <andruk> !feisty release date
[02:35] <bruenig> !feisty
[02:35] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:35] <Amperage> dacvak: you may be better off trying to recover the data from it using something like ultimate boot cd for windows
[02:35] <zen> bruenig, can I force it?
[02:35] <bruenig> BryanJK1, have you ever messed with your sources.list
[02:35] <BryanJK1> no
[02:35] <bruenig> zen, I believe you can just do "sudo apt-get install whatever" even if it is held back to install it
[02:35] <bruenig> BryanJK1, are you edgy or dapper
[02:36] <BryanJK1> edgy
[02:36] <carpediem> kghunt: I can't guarantee that's your problem, but it very well could be
[02:36] <bruenig> BryanJK1, sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[02:36] <BryanJK1> Holy
[02:36] <BryanJK1> okay
[02:36] <Dacvak> Amperage, I suppose that's possible, but I'm already in Ubuntu. Is there any way to do it in Ubuntu?
[02:36] <BryanJK1> its installing
[02:36] <BryanJK1> i think
[02:36] <crdlb> bruenig, that is some nice sed action
[02:36] <carpediem> bruenig: damn, you sure know how to scare the new guys.
[02:37] <Amperage> couldn't say :( I'm not familiar with the utilities avail during live boot
[02:37] <erichj> why does mplayer suck so much?
[02:37] <BryanJK1> bruenig: thanks
[02:37] <BryanJK1> I think it works
[02:37] <kghunt> It seems to be pointing towards it. The odd thing is I tried to reinstall vista but the dvd doesnt boot into the install menu it tries to load windows
[02:37] <BryanJK1> "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[02:37] <carpediem> erichj: have you written something better?
[02:37] <BryanJK1> Let me try it
[02:37] <crdlb> erichj, ?
[02:37] <erichj> it's brightness control doesn't even work
[02:37] <yurimxpxman> does anyone know of any good programming IRC channels? I can't seem to find any that don't require an invitation
[02:37] <BryanJK1> no :|
[02:38] <bruenig> BryanJK1, sudo apt-get install wine gives you what
[02:38] <nitro4ce> crdlb: any clue?
[02:38] <crdlb> erichj, did you try pressing 3 and 4 ?
[02:38] <BryanJK1> aha
[02:38] <crdlb> nitro4ce, what did you do exactly?
[02:38] <erichj> to no avail
[02:38] <BryanJK1> its slowly downloading stuff again
[02:38] <crdlb> erichj, -vo xv ?
[02:38] <erichj> looks like i have to stick with vlc
[02:38] <BryanJK1> its weird
[02:38] <waxyfresh> anyone constantly loose thier dslconnection on  6.10?
[02:39] <BryanJK1> because it wont let install ANYTHING through the Add/Remove
[02:39] <andruk> waxyfresh: no
[02:39] <sanityx> i have what might be a dumb question. If I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10, or 7.04 or whatever, will I end up with a lot of junk on my system. i.e. if you upgrade from win98 to xp or 2000 to xp you end up with a lot of old junk files left on the system.
[02:39] <nitro4ce> crdlb: entered gnome before i had the sound installed, so gnome asked me to remove it, and i said yes...
[02:39] <andruk> waxyfresh: how are you connected to it (wireless/ehternet/usb)?
[02:39] <bruenig> BryanJK1, did wine install
[02:39] <Jaguar> waxyfresh: No, but suspending my system makes me have to eject and insert my wireless card again, rather annoying.
[02:39] <gumnut> hoho, comparing linux to windows ... what a riot
[02:39] <BryanJK1> its installing
[02:39] <BryanJK1> slowly but yes
[02:39] <BryanJK1> thanks
[02:39] <sanityx> gumnut, I know they aren't the same. Which is why I'm asking
[02:39] <BryanJK1> L|
[02:40] <BryanJK1> well thats odd
[02:40] <gumnut> sanityx: there may be some extra files but pretty much no extra baggage
[02:40] <crdlb> nitro4ce, never seen that before sorry
[02:40] <andruk> waxyfresh:how are you connected to your dsl modem?
[02:40] <Amperage> anyone have any suggestions to improve performance on my edgy 6.10 install? running on a core duo processor with 512mb of ram. system gets pretty laggy while doing somthing like encoding video
[02:40] <bluecat9> Q: Is it possible to make a persons chat text in XChat match the color of their nickname?
[02:40] <Jaguar> sanityx: Dist-upgrades are usually pretty clean through apt-get, you'll be left some old config files if it removes some stuff, but usually they're nothing to worry about.
[02:40] <bruenig> sanityx, most things are fluid which is to say that new stuff generally builds upon old stuff and uses the configuration directories and such of old stuff, so it should be no problem
[02:40] <sanityx> cool.
[02:40] <carpediem> sanityx: upgrading under Linux doesn't usually orphan files.  Sometimes configuration files are kept for safety reasons
[02:41] <nitro4ce> crdlb: ok thanks anyway
[02:41] <sanityx> I mean its no big deal for me to reinstall from scratch, since all my data is on the ntfs partition and i access it with ntfs-3g
[02:41] <sanityx> But I was just curious.
[02:41] <bruenig> most packages that use new configuration directories are generally competent enough to include a preinst script that removes the old ones
[02:41] <Amperage> the system had XP media edition on this machine prior and had no issues with multitasking
[02:41] <BryanJK1> !ntfs
[02:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:41] <Jaguar> sanityx: `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` > complete reinstall :)
[02:42] <rogue780> I've installed ubuntu on my acer aspire 5100 laptop and the touch pad is giving me a little grief. along the right edge if you move your finger up and down it will scroll up and down, which is great, but along the bottom edge if you accidentally move your finger horizontally it will (in firefox, probably other browsers too, dunno) take you either forward or back in your history depending on which direction you brushed that horizonta
[02:42] <carpediem> bruenig: hmm, it's been my experience that upgrade scripts won't remove a file you've edited though.
[02:42] <rogue780> l "hot zone." is there a way I can disable this?
[02:43] <Jaguar> carpediem: They do that on purpose, trying not to stomp your changes, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse :/.
[02:43] <nick_> can anyone help me get a new hdd working
[02:43] <carpediem> Jaguar: right
[02:43] <bruenig> carpediem, I am talking about .configuration directories. Like I was packaging this xdvdshrink package and from version 2.1 to 2.6 or something like that, it changed configuration directories. So I included a preinst script that would see if you had the old one and remove it
[02:43] <lelik> Dear all... I have a question: how to setup imap module for PHP5 on Ubuntu? Should I recompile PHP5 sources?  I cannot find it in package list...
[02:43] <carpediem> bruenig: ah, I see...not /etc like I was thinking of.
[02:44] <rikc> is there a reason why my internet seems to run so much slower in ubuntu than it did in Windows?
[02:44] <Flannel> lelik: you on dapper or edgy?
[02:44] <lelik> 6.10... Seems dapper.
[02:44] <Flannel> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/php5-imap
[02:44] <lelik> server version
[02:44] <crdlb> lelik, that's edgy
[02:44] <rogue780> yeah 6.06 is dapper
[02:44] <lelik> oh, sorry :-))
[02:44] <Flannel> lelik: that's edgy.  Dapper is 6.06.  php5-image is in universe, so yu'll need to enable it.
[02:45] <sanityx> 6.06 dapper, 6.10 edgy, 7.04 feisty, right?
[02:45] <Flannel> Correct
[02:45] <sanityx> Is anybody here using feisty right now?
[02:45] <lelik> no-no.. not php5-image.. I need imap..
[02:45] <kghunt> how do i run qparted as the root user?
[02:45] <Flannel> sanityx: people in #ubuntu+1
[02:45] <bruenig> sanityx, #ubuntu+1 would be a better place
[02:45] <Philokin2> I have a dual boot setup with Vista and Ubuntu on mylaptop, can I make ubuntu mount the Windows partition so I can use some shared space?
[02:45] <nick_> my parted dies when i try to launch and it i try to use mkfs is says resource is in use, please help
[02:45] <Flannel> lelik: that is php5-imap
[02:45] <Flannel> lelik: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/php5-imap
[02:45] <sanityx> bruenig, I'm not running it or asking for help with it, I was just curious.
[02:46] <waxyfresh> sanityx: alot of people are,i wouldent suggest it
[02:46] <bluecat9> rikc - have you tried disabling ipv6 in firefox?
[02:46] <lelik> Thanks, Flannel.. I'll try to get it :-)
[02:46] <rikc> would anyone be able to help me out?  I remember someone mentioning a reason why the 'net runs slower on ubuntu than windows, but I don't have the link anymore
[02:46] <sanityx> waxyfresh, It doesn't even boot on my laptop yet
[02:46] <rikc> bluecat: I have not, how do I do that?
[02:47] <sanityx> waxyfresh, I'm just hoping they fix my hard drive issue in feisty.
[02:47] <waxyfresh> oh
[02:47] <operator> yo guys, quick question how can i change the server name at the console prompt e.g. [user@servername] # how can i change the servername
[02:47] <bluecat9> rickc - open firefox, type in "about:config" in address, Filter: ipv6, then double-click on network.dns.disableIPv6 to set the Disable value to True
[02:48] <UndiPie> operator: host your.new.host
[02:48] <operator> any other way to do it?
[02:48] <subMacrolize> Hi everyone, I've got a problem with editing files. I suspect that the solution will be very simple. Will anyone help me?
[02:48] <sanityx> subMacrolize, What's the problem?
[02:49] <subMacrolize> I'm running edgy. I don't have proper permissions to edit files on "file system".
[02:49] <subMacrolize> How do I acquire these permissions?
[02:49] <Jaguar> !sudo | subMacrolize
[02:49] <ubotu> subMacrolize: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:49] <kghunt> is that not because you need to edit them via the sudo command
[02:49] <BeastlyKings> Can someone have a one on one with me please? I have detailed questions
[02:49] <sanityx> subMacrolize, Yeah mean you need to use sudo
[02:50] <Jaguar> subMacrolize: You'll want to use something like gksudo to run a graphical editor, enter the root password when prompted and you shouldn't have a problem, just be careful with your edits :).
[02:50] <rikc> bluecat9: thanks! just did that.  anything else I need to do?
[02:50] <bluecat9> rikc: that made a significant difference for me.. give it a test ;)
[02:50] <subMacrolize> Thanks everyone! You're all so helpful. :)
[02:51] <Jaguar> Anytime.
[02:51] <knix_> if I install feisty 5, when the real versions comes out will I be able to update it?
[02:51] <rikc> seems fine now :) thanks!
[02:52] <TazDevil> Good Evening everyone
[02:52] <kghunt> Is there a way to run a check on an ntfs file system from ubuntu parted says it cannot
[02:52] <bluecat9> rikc - awesome
[02:52] <TazDevil> How do I make two 160 gb Hard Drives look like one in Ubuntu?
[02:52] <knix_> TazDevil, LVM
[02:52] <TazDevil> Hmmmm
[02:52] <BeastlyKings> LVM?
[02:53] <TazDevil> Anyone got a good tutorial on it
[02:53] <TazDevil> It won't let me do that for some reason
[02:53] <knix_> TazDevil, google lvm on ubuntu forums
[02:53] <knix_> LVM = logical volume manager
[02:53] <TazDevil> Thank you sir I will go there then
[02:54] <knix_> TazDevil, GLHF
[02:54] <TazDevil> hehehe Some How I think I am now in trouble
[02:54] <knix_> whys that?
[02:55] <kghunt> How ca i run a chddsk type utility on a ntfs volume?
[02:58] <kghunt> Is any1 alive :-)
[02:58] <gumnut> i am
[02:58] <BeastlyKings> I'm here but I can't help you
[02:58] <kghunt> Are you a seasoned linux user gumnut?
[02:58] <gumnut> hmm, a few years, why?
[02:59] <Jaguar> kghunt, sorry, we're only quiet because we don't know of a way, not because we're ignoring you :)
[02:59] <andruk> kghunt: try fsck
[02:59] <adjioev> kghunt, you mean run chddsk from linux?
[02:59] <stephano> kghunt, are you talking about a USB flash drive of some kind, or literally a mounted hard disk
[02:59] <waxyfresh> kghunt: mmm seasoning....
[02:59] <kghunt> lol
[02:59] <gumnut> makes me hungry ...
[02:59] <kghunt> its a partition on my disk
[02:59] <erichj> who wants to sexxxxy chat?
[03:00] <adjioev> kghunt, can you login to windows and run it there?
[03:00] <kghunt> windows will not boot thats the root of the issue
[03:00] <Jaguar> tonyyarusso: Lightening fast when I think you're sleepin'...
[03:00] <andruk> kghunt: but you can get linux up?
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> Jaguar: :)
[03:00] <kghunt> yes
[03:00] <adjioev> kghunt, try to do safe startup i had simular problem
[03:00] <erichj> loser
[03:01] <kghunt> I foolishly used parted to resize my partitions on install
[03:01] <erichj> can't take a joke
[03:01] <garnier> erichj, with girls?????
[03:01] <NickGarvey> insult the mods, thats a good idea
[03:01] <garnier> erichj, with girls?????
[03:01] <adjioev> kghunt, actually i tried ntfs3 with write support and now my windows is broken
[03:01] <garnier> hauha
[03:01] <kghunt> i tried safe mode but it fails on crcdisk.sys
[03:01] <andruk> kghunt: yeah, check ou thte command fsck
[03:01] <garnier> bye bye all... i'm at Brazil and its time to sleep now!! see u soon
[03:02] <BeastlyKings> Cya
[03:02] <erichj> yeah like there are girls in a linux channel
[03:02] <adjioev> i thought fsck is for linux partition only?
[03:02] <andruk> hmmm...
[03:03] <stephano> kghunt, you can try running 'fsck.nfs'
[03:03] <kghunt> fsck doesnt support ntfs by the looks of things
[03:04] <Oswy> Hey, can someone help me with network install through GRUB?
[03:04] <Oswy> Per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[03:04] <adjioev>  fsck.nfs - Dummy fsck.nfs script that always returns success.
[03:04] <stephano> kghunt, just be warned, it's only a script to return a successful status as Linux can't 'see' a mounted NTFS volume
[03:04] <ant> anyone know the package name for X?
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> ant: xserver-xorg
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> -core, maybe
[03:04] <ant> thx
[03:05] <Oswy> Anyone?
[03:06] <kghunt> I thought i was doing alright up until now lol. I need a big microsoft mallet
[03:08] <madman_> is there a way i could change the default 80 port for apache, so people can see files
[03:08] <internetr> what is ubuntu's compatibility with dead badgers?
[03:09] <erichj> they need to be skinned for them to work correctly
[03:09] <andruk> kghunt: do you have your microsoft install/rescue cd?
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> internetr: Well, it would probably take some module loading, but it might be doable.
[03:09] <kghunt> yeah i got the vista dvd
[03:09] <kghunt> but it doesnt boot into the install menu
[03:09] <andruk> have you tried getting it to check the ntfs partition?
[03:09] <kghunt> it tries to loads windows instead
[03:09] <hikenboot> hello all...about to install fiesty...does it some how install with RAID 1 I cant seem to figure a way to do it
[03:09] <andruk> oh
[03:10] <kghunt> very odd indeedy
[03:10] <stephano> kghunt, you might wanna look at the Linux-NTFS project (http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-ntfs)
[03:10] <kghunt> looking....
[03:10] <andruk> i know nothing of vista, and less than i thought i knew of fsck.  sry...
[03:10] <NickGarvey> when I hit "download only" for synaptic, where do all the packages go?
[03:10] <locke> How can i find out what I would enter into configuration editor to map to my volume up key?
[03:10] <stephano> kghunt, they made project of the month last year - and it looks like they have included an NTFS checker
[03:11] <madman_> is there a way i could change the default 80 port for apache, so people can see files
[03:11] <mrsayers> Is there anything that makes it worth upgrading to Feisty?
[03:11] <rogue780> NickGarvey, purgatory
[03:11] <Pollywog> NickGarvey: don't they go to /var/cache/apt/archives?
[03:11] <bruenig> NickGarvey, /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:11] <stephano> madman_, you'll be modding your httpd.conf file to do that
[03:11] <rogue780> mrsayers, the restricted drivers...better laptop support, a more solid feeling (to me anyway) desktop than edgy was
[03:11] <NickGarvey> thanks
[03:12] <madman_> well, i got that part covered
[03:12] <madman_> i added listen 2080
[03:12] <madman_> but the default 80 port
[03:12] <Sayers> rogue780 With Gnome that is?
[03:12] <madman_> when i want to access the files on the linux box is not working if i remove the 80 port
[03:12] <rogue780|away|at> Sayers, yes
[03:12] <rogue780|away|at> now I'm away
[03:12] <Angelus> hi there everyone! Was wondering, how do you backup everything in Ubunutu? Say if I reformatted the HD, how could I get everything back without having to download all the updates?
[03:12] <lisapc> is there a ms media player plugin for firefox in ubuntu?
[03:12] <rogue780|away|at> maybe not
[03:12] <bruenig> !backup | Angelus
[03:12] <ubotu> Angelus: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:13] <Sayers> rogue780|away|at: How hard was the upgrade?
[03:13] <Pollywog> lisapc there is a plugin for mozilla for mplayer
[03:13] <ant> i get a handful of font errors when trying to startx, any suggestions?
[03:13] <Pollywog> mplayer plugin for mozilla
[03:13] <jrib> lisapc: no, why not use totem, mplayer, or vlc's?
[03:13] <lisapc> Pollywog,  does it work in firefox?
[03:13] <Oswy> Argh, can someone help me here with GRUB?
[03:13] <Oswy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[03:13] <ant> i just need a particular package i asume
[03:13] <Pollywog> lisapc: yes
[03:13] <lisapc> jrib,  how?
[03:13] <Oswy> The Install Ubuntu title isn't coming up.
[03:13] <lisapc> Pollywog,  whats it called exactly?
[03:13] <rogue780|away|at> Angelus, I use dd if=/dev/yourharddrivepartition | bzip2 -1vv > youroutfile.img.bz2 and to restore I use bunzip2 -kcvv | dd of=/dev/yourharddrivepartition and of course using sudo
[03:13] <jrib> lisapc: totem's should already be installed.  If you want mplayer's then install mozilla-mplayer
[03:13] <locke> I have the commands to change PCM volume, but I can't seem to get it to map to any keys? =x
[03:14] <Oswy> Anyone? Anyone?
[03:14] <rogue780|away|at> Sayers, I did a clean install due to the fact that the only time I tried edgy on my laptop I had issues and reverted to windows
[03:14] <rogue780|away|at> now I must be going to work now
[03:14] <jrib> locke: how are you trying?
[03:14] <Angelus> thanks
[03:14] <Cave`> how do I print to pages on one page, can't find the option in printer settings?
[03:14] <Oswy> I guess not. ><
[03:14] <Cave`> *two
[03:14] <Angelus> I didn't understand a word though lol, I'll look up the forum help thanks
[03:14] <arrow> Media Player question: When I watch video clips on my media players the light stuff is too light and the dark stuff is too dark, it happens with all my players also
[03:14] <arrow> does anyone know how to fix this
[03:15] <ant> Oswy: what error do you get?
[03:15] <locke> jrib: configuration editor
[03:15] <bruenig> Oswy, I know I did it when I was printing pdfs
[03:15] <flamesrock> does anyone know what linux program can be used to record video directly from my camera directly to the computer? Kino doesn't seem to work, since it's USB
[03:15] <jrib> locke: yes, but tell us exactly what you tried
[03:15] <Oswy> I'm not getting an error.
[03:15] <BlackDalek> Software update won't work. It says there are too many errors. How do I clear out the corrupted updates which downloaded, so that I can download them again?
[03:15] <bruenig> Oswy, when you ctrl p go to the last tab I think
[03:15] <lisapc> jrib,  ty
[03:15] <lisapc> Pollywog,  thanks
[03:15] <Oswy> I just can't find the place to Install Ubuntue.
[03:15] <Oswy> -e
[03:15] <bruenig> BlackDalek, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade does what
[03:15] <jrib> !restricted | lisapc
[03:15] <Pollywog> mplayer-mozilla
[03:15] <ubotu> lisapc: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:15] <Oswy> "Save menu.lst, reboot, and select "Install Ubuntu" in the windows OS chooser then in GRUB. You now have a network installation of Ubuntu going."
[03:15] <Pollywog> oops it is mozilla-mplyer
[03:15] <jrib> lisapc: that page will help you with codec issues
[03:15] <Pollywog> oops it is mozilla-mplayer
[03:15] <Oswy> There's no Install Ubuntu option in GRUB.
[03:16] <andruk> madman_ here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/apache2-web-server-installation-with-php4-and-php5-support-in-ubuntu.html#more-71
[03:16] <lisapc> jrib,  ok ty
[03:16] <locke> jrib: i have command_1 amixer -q sset 'PCM',0 5%-,5%- unmute and then the key command_1 0xb0, i also tried <ALT>Up but neither did anything
[03:16] <arrow> Ubotu, thx, but why free formats?
[03:16] <andruk> comment 5
[03:16] <bruenig> !ubotu | arrow
[03:16] <ubotu> arrow: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:16] <madman_> thanks
[03:16] <Oswy> !ubotu | grub
[03:16] <ubotu> grub: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:16] <arrow> I thanked a bot
[03:16] <Oswy> Or not, haha.
[03:16] <bruenig> who is grub
[03:16] <bruenig> !grub | Oswy
[03:16] <Oswy> !ubotu grub
[03:16] <ubotu> Oswy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:17] <jrib> locke: that command works in the terminal?
[03:17] <BlackDalek> I can't copy and paste the exact error message I got from synaptic, so I will have to put a screenshot on photobucket instead.
[03:17] <Oswy> Ahh, OK.
[03:17] <ant> lol
[03:17] <locke> jrib: yes
[03:17] <andruk> madman_ hang on..lemme find ports.conf
[03:17] <Pollywog> I said "excuse me" to a mannikin
[03:17] <Oswy> But I still can't get to where I need.
[03:17] <jrib> locke: change the command to: /usr/bin/gedit.  Does the shortcut open gedit now?
[03:17] <nickeldeuce> hey, i have a laptop with a DVI second monitor I use with nvidia twinview.  However i'm sometimes not connected, is there an easy way to make a separate custom session with a different xorg.conf to enable/disable the second monitor?
[03:17] <bruenig> BlackDalek, do things in the terminal
[03:17] <madman_> thanks
[03:17] <greig_> hello all
[03:17] <Oswy> In XP, I put GRUB on, but I can't get to the place where I install Ubuntu in GRUB after/during startup.
[03:17] <madman_> http://youarenotsecure.info/file-server/ is still opening at port 80
[03:17] <bruenig> BlackDalek, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal and if you get an error message paste it, if it is very long pastebin it
[03:18] <bruenig> !pastebin | BlackDalek
[03:18] <ubotu> BlackDalek: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:18] <locke> jrib: yes
[03:18] <ant> anyone know of the package(s) for font dependencies for X?
[03:18] <internetr> Open question to anyone with ubuntu on a laptop that they regularly plug into a secondary monitor, is the current best solution still having to swap out xorg.conf files or is there a better plug and play support now?
[03:18] <ant> i did a minimal install
[03:18] <madman_> http://youarenotsecure.info:2080 works but when i click file-server i can see it but people outside the LAN cannot see it since its port 80 is blocked by most ISPS
[03:18] <Cave`> how do I print two pages on one page, can't find the option in printer settings?
[03:19] <bruenig> Cave`, when I did it in evince, it was the last tab of the ctrl p dialog
[03:19] <jrib> locke: hmm not sure why your amixer command doesn't work.  Try double quotes instead of single.  Even better, just make a quick shell script with that command, make it executable, save it somewhere, and then feed gconf-editor the path to that script
[03:19] <Cave`> oki thanks
[03:19] <mEck0> I am kind of new to vim, but love it this far, I wonder though how I can copy a i.e. a code sentence and the paste it on another row in the same file?
[03:19] <jrib> locke: also try giving the full path to amixer
[03:19] <andruk> madman_: okay...look at /etc/apache2/ports.conf and change that port to whatever prot you want (make sure its open), and then reboot
[03:20] <jrib> mEck0: have you run 'vimtutor' yet?
[03:20] <madman_> k
[03:20] <madman_> brb
[03:20] <locke> jrib: hmm ill look into those things =x, don't know how to write shell scripts
[03:20] <mEck0> jrib, no
[03:20] <ant> how do i search apt for particular packages?
[03:20] <nickeldeuce> internetr, i pretty much just asked the same question as well :)
[03:20] <bruenig> ant, apt-cache search package
[03:20] <ant> thx
[03:20] <greig_> i have a question for anyone *** My webcams not supported on ubuntu 6.10? however the prev verison i believe it is? the kernel 2.4 supports my camera, is there anyway to downgrade my kernel or will i have to install an older ubuntu? PS im a linux noobie
[03:20] <bruenig> ant, apt-cache show package will give you more information if you know the exact package name
[03:20] <mEck0> jrib, aha, I started it now, thx!
[03:21] <andruk> madman_ you can restart apache by:sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:21] <robbie_crash> Is there a way to change the way nautillus behaves so that folder renaming can be done with a click to select and then a click on the name to change it?
[03:21] <jrib> mEck0: it is a great introduction.  To copy, it's called "yank", just do this command for info on that:    :he yank    .  To paste, it's called "put":    :he put
[03:21] <Orphyux> Hi
[03:21] <ant> just looking for a package with the word font in it...
[03:21] <madman_> i did restart the apache
[03:21] <madman_> like i said, i can see the webpage
[03:21] <stephano> greig_, try booting to the previous kernel - you should have that option in your GRUB loader
[03:21] <Orphyux> I just installed ubuntu and I need help with installing the wireless driver
[03:21] <madman_> but my link in apache to my files
[03:21] <bruenig> robbie_crash, patch the source and recompile
[03:21] <madman_> works on port 80
[03:21] <mEck0> jrib, aha, I will test it now
[03:22] <crdlb> robbie_crash, not that I know of, but you could just press F2
[03:22] <Pollywog> Orphyux: is it rt2500?
[03:22] <jrib> mEck0: and this is in more detail:  :he 04.6
[03:22] <Orphyux> it is a toshiba satelite pro lap
[03:22] <robbie_crash> bruenig, ahhh, so learn how to code then do it.
[03:22] <greig_> stephano : is that the options at boot? as this is the first ever time/install i have done i only have this version and 2.6.10 kernel available
[03:22] <Pollywog> I am not familiar with that one
[03:22] <nickeldeuce> hey, i have a laptop with a DVI second monitor I use with nvidia twinview.  However i'm sometimes not connected, is there an easy way to make a separate custom session with a different xorg.conf to enable/disable the second monitor?
[03:22] <mlabbe> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu from a CD and rebooted.  Windows Vista is loading and GRUB is not coming up.  I installed Ubuntu to /dev/sda3.  How can I boot it?
[03:22] <robbie_crash> crdlb, thanks
[03:22] <bruenig> robbie_crash, nautilus is meant to right click rename, that is how it is designed to operate
[03:22] <Orphyux> windows vista, good luck with that.
[03:23] <BlackDalek> ok.. I get this error from trying to update - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10986/
[03:23] <Orphyux> It looks like it didn't detect it on install.
[03:23] <madman_> okay
[03:23] <madman_> might be php
[03:23] <Oswy> Is (hd0,0) automatically c:\?
[03:23] <stephano> greig_, sorry then
[03:23] <locke> jrib: it seems that i got it working, thanks :)
[03:23] <jrib> locke: great
[03:23] <BlackDalek> How do I re-download the updates? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10986/
[03:23] <Pollywog> Orphyux: if there isn't a Linux driver you will need ndiswrapper and I think there is a howto in the forums or a link to one
[03:23] <bruenig> BlackDalek, try sudo apt-get remove tar
[03:23] <greig_> stephano : so would my only other option be to install an older verison?
[03:24] <locke> jrib: any idea how i would allow it to map to 0xa0 key though, it doesn't seem to recognize my volume keys
[03:24] <Orphyux> ok, thanks.
[03:24] <stephano> greig_, hang on - I'm looking at that right now
[03:24] <greig_> stephano thank you
[03:24] <jrib> locke: hmm, can you use the key for any preset shortcut in system > preferences > keyboard shortcut?
[03:25] <BlackDalek> bruenig: that tells me I am about to do something potentially harmful.... shall I proceed?
[03:25] <locke> jrib: I can set it there, yes
[03:25] <Oswy> Hey, in GRUB.
[03:25] <Oswy> What does (hd0,0) indicate?
[03:25] <bruenig> BlackDalek, pastebin what it says
[03:25] <jrib> locke: it should work as long as you specify the key the same way
[03:25] <crdlb> Oswy, first partition on the first drive
[03:25] <Oswy> k
[03:25] <locke> jrib: hm let me try again
[03:25] <stephano> greig_, you may be looking at a job for dpkg
[03:25] <stephano> greig_, have a look at http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html
[03:25] <Oswy> So it'd be the unpartitioned c: in default, right?
[03:25] <crdlb> Oswy, probably the same as /dev/hda1
[03:26] <Oswy> Hmm.
[03:26] <Oswy> So it should just be c: then, right?
[03:26] <Oswy> Equivalent.
[03:26] <greig_> stephano : what does dpkg mean sorry
[03:26] <stephano> greig_, seems kind of a long way to go though... perhaps it's just a driver issue?
[03:26] <bruenig> !dpkg
[03:26] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[03:26] <BlackDalek> bruenig: it tells me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10987/ - should I proceed?
[03:26] <andruk> madman_: so...whats the problem?
[03:26] <greig_> stephano: all it is is my web cam doesnt work
[03:26] <stephano> bruenig, you rawk thanks
[03:26] <locke> jrib: i did notice that every other time entered into keyboard shortcuts it shows a dif name for the key, let me try the other name for it perhaps
[03:26] <greig_> stephano seems my cam isnt supported on 2.6 kernel
[03:26] <madman_> people on the outside of the lan can access the main webpage
[03:27] <madman_> but the link on the page opens a php file browser, on port 80, i need to change that port to 2080
[03:27] <bruenig> BlackDalek, I would go for it, so long as you reinstall tar later, all will be fine
[03:27] <stephano> greig_, well then... I personally wouldn't have a problem with running an earlier kernel version
[03:27] <Jaguar> That was strange... Ubuntu suddenly locked up, couldn't even ctrl+alt+f1 out to a terminal... not liking suspend, might disable it as I'm plugged in.
[03:27] <greig_> stephano and to run a earlier version, how would i go about that?
[03:28] <mlabbe> Well, what's the best way to create a floppy ubuntu bootdisk?
[03:28] <locke> jrib: hmm it won't do that now though D:
[03:28] <stephano> greig_, that's just a text setting in GRUB to make it start from the earlier kernel version
[03:28] <bruenig> !installing | mlabbe don't think there is a floppy install but
[03:28] <ubotu> mlabbe don't think there is a floppy install but: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:28] <andruk> hmmm...dunno what the problem is. have you tried the ubuntuforums.org forums?
[03:28] <stephano> !GRUB
[03:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:28] <greig_> stephano even tho this is the first time i have installed ubuntu?
[03:28] <BlackDalek> bruenig: it didn't work anyway.
[03:28] <bruenig> BlackDalek, keep on pastebinning
[03:29] <stephano> greig_, sure! you can do anything you want.... it's LINUX
[03:29] <BlackDalek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10988/
[03:29] <BlackDalek> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10988/ is the result
[03:29] <Oswy> Aaaaargh.
[03:29] <andruk> madman_: hmmm...dunno what the problem is. have you tried the ubuntuforums.org forums?
[03:29] <stephano> greig_, did you see the GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:29] <Oswy> I put the kernel in c:\boot\linux, but I can't access that.
[03:29] <Orphyux> well it looks like all i had to do was enable it. Thanks for your help
[03:29] <bruenig> BlackDalek, there is something wrong with openoffice.org-common
[03:30] <madman_> no but i shall do eet
[03:30] <madman_> thanks
[03:30] <greig_> stephano so how do i go about reverting back to a 2.4 kernel even tho when i boot up i only have 2 kernel options.. 2.6.11 and2.6.10 or something similar
[03:30] <Oswy> I put in (hd0,0)/boot/linux, but it's not finding the file.
[03:30] <greig_> stephano thanks i'll read now
[03:30] <Golty> saludos
[03:30] <bruenig> BlackDalek, if it was my system I would sudo apt-get remove that
[03:30] <Oswy> Is there anything more definitive I can type in as a substitute, like c:/boot/linux
[03:30] <Oswy> Would that work?
[03:30] <Golty> tengo un problema
[03:30] <andruk> madman_ np
[03:30] <bruenig> c:?
[03:30] <stephano> greig_, you'll prolly wanna look at installing the last known kernel version to support your webcam
[03:30] <bruenig> there is no c:
[03:30] <Oswy> Fine.
[03:31] <Flannel> Oswy: hd0,0/boot/linux is THE definitive.  On the partition level.
[03:31] <Oswy> So how do I represent c: besides (hd0,0)?
[03:31] <Oswy> Hmm.
[03:31] <Oswy> Then why isn't it working?
[03:31] <Oswy> Is it the parentheses?
[03:32] <stephano> so who all in here is running Beryl?
[03:32] <jrib> locke: not sure then
[03:32] <greig_> stephano i cant seem to see that information, do u know what contents number its under? sorry to be a pain
[03:32] <bruenig> !beryl | stephano
[03:32] <ubotu> stephano: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:32] <nickeldeuce> stephano, i use the beryl
[03:32] <stephano> nickeldeuce, what hardware?
[03:32] <malic> stephano, love beryl.
[03:32] <nickeldeuce> nvidia geforce 7900
[03:33] <stephano> ::sigh::
[03:33] <jturek> malic: bah, openbox man... thats the way to go ;)
[03:33] <Oswy> So why can't it find the file, then?
[03:33] <nickeldeuce> like much of xorg, it works fine if you have good drivers
[03:33] <nickeldeuce> :/
[03:33] <Oswy> I've typed everything in properly.
[03:33] <Evil_`> is there a SVN client for ubuntu?
[03:33] <Oswy> Screw it, I'll work on it tomorrow.
[03:34] <nickeldeuce> yeah, don't try running beryl on a VM
[03:34] <lvleat> I'm having troubles with my wireless
[03:34] <nickeldeuce> it won't work
[03:34] <lvleat> can anyone help?
[03:34] <malic> jturek, looks good just googled it.  Dont know if I want the hasle of installing it
[03:34] <nickeldeuce> lvleat, do you have any specifics? :)
[03:34] <stephano> nickeldeuce, yeah I found out the hard way
[03:34] <BlackDalek> bruenig: i tried sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-common ...I still get the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10988/
[03:34] <ramza3> Evil_`: what is wrong with 'svn'
[03:35] <lvleat> Oh. haha. It's a broadcom4318. I've gotten the card to turn on, and detect networks
[03:35] <bruenig> BlackDalek, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop tar openoffice.org-common
[03:35] <Flannel> Evil_`: install the "subversion" package, to get svn
[03:35] <linxeh> evan_: rapidsvn is one gui for it
[03:35] <Evil_`> oh ok
[03:35] <linxeh> there are others
[03:35] <lvleat> i'm having trouble connecting to them. when i do a ifup eth1, it says something about the PID being in use..
[03:36] <linxeh> Evil_`: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/Subversion.html#SVNGUI
[03:36] <waxyfresh> uncomiting is just removing the# right?
[03:36] <Evil_`> thanks
[03:36] <greig_> stephano : i cant seem to find the information abobut downgrading kernels
[03:36] <bruenig> waxyfresh, yes
[03:36] <linxeh> Evil_`: that lists a few, I use "subclipse" within eclipse usually
[03:36] <stephano> greig_, it wouldn't really be a 'downgrade' per se - more like an install of a specific version of kernel
[03:36] <upd> how can i look in ubuntu what version of bios i have
[03:37] <LadyNikon> bios?
[03:37] <linxeh> Evil_`: the standard edgy svn utils are quite out of date now - be warned if you use any cutting edge features / multiple tools on the same working copy
[03:37] <LadyNikon> hmm
[03:37] <LadyNikon> dunno that one.
[03:37] <greig_> stephano i see, so in essance i can install a 2.4 kernel and run 6.10 on a 2.4 kernel?
[03:37] <linxeh> upd: reboot, look at what is displayed at boot. there is no way to find out bios version from the os
[03:37] <upd> ok :)
[03:37] <stephano> greig_, I'll say yes with caution
[03:38] <bruenig> !kernel
[03:38] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:38] <linxeh> upd: its normally a string of digits at the bottom of the screen. but Dell and other machines change that
[03:38] <Ruttin> upd - You usually hold down the F1, F2, or del keys to bring up the bios
[03:38] <stephano> greig_, you might have some features that would stop working due to non-support
[03:38] <upd> ok tnx
[03:38] <lvleat> anyone? bcm4318, cant get IP
[03:38] <stephano> greig_, I'm not sure what your usage is with your hardware (no need to tell me either)
[03:39] <dieguito> BenC: ping
[03:39] <malic> lvleat: you using nidswrapper?
[03:39] <Jaguar> lvleat: You're in for some fun, Ubuntu doesn't like that card, took me 2 days to get it working :/, lemme pull up my forum post.
[03:39] <BenC> dieguito: pong
[03:39] <dieguito> :)
[03:39] <BlackDalek> bruenig: none of this is working.. isn't there some way I can just delete all this crap and re-download it? I am beginning to think it might just be easier to format and re-install from scratch since this is a clean install off a CD, and there is nothing on the hard drive I need to keep :(
[03:39] <lvleat> yes I am. i did a firmware thing, cutter i think, and i got the power light on
[03:39] <lvleat> if i do a iwlist scan
[03:39] <lvleat> it shows all the networks
[03:39] <bruenig> BlackDalek, well fresh install then
[03:39] <balzac> BlackDalek, i came to the same conclusion
[03:39] <lvleat> I havent the slighest idea about how to connect to them though
[03:40] <balzac> my apt-get has been spoiled by un-stable repositories
[03:40] <dieguito> BenC: I see you released a fix for the rtl8180 wifi problem, well it's funny that there's no module in the kernel now. I doubt that was your intention
[03:40] <greig_> stephano :  so i have a few options. 1- install a older version of ubuntu 5.60?   2= install lower kernel   3= somehow get drivers for web cam to work  or 4 = just forget about my web cam
[03:40] <Jaguar> lvleat: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=366993
[03:40] <rukuartic> lvleat: Oh, iwconfig ethX essid "network name here" channel X ap XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
[03:40] <nick_> anyone that can help me copy my files from an NTFS partition to my Ubuntu System
[03:40] <greig_> stephano : its just annoying i doenst work thats all
[03:40] <dieguito> BenC: I just put a comment on that: https://launchpad.net/bugs/78255
[03:40] <rukuartic> lvleat: and then assuming dhcp, "dhclient ethX"
[03:40] <nickeldeuce> would anyone know where to find custom X session tutorial?
[03:40] <balzac> i wonder if debian users are having trouble upgrading
[03:40] <stephano> greig_, sounds like option #2 is pretty good
[03:40] <stephano> greig_, but that's ME not YOU
[03:41] <lvleat> whats a channel and ap?
[03:41] <rukuartic> lvleat: well... channel is like... almost like a radio station except for wireless
[03:41] <rukuartic> lvleat: ap is access point, and its a MAC address. Essentially the thumbprint of the system.
[03:41] <dhorn> Is there anyone that can help me with an alsa problem?  Namely with the hda-intel driver?
[03:41] <rukuartic> lvleat: If your card supports it, you can say "channel 0 ap auto" and it should figure that out for itself.
[03:42] <greig_> stephano i dont mind giving it a try, its just knowing how to, as i say, ive only just installed linux/ubuntu 3 days ago and its very daunting
[03:42] <Jaguar> lvleat: Channel is the frequency the ESSID broadcasts on and the frequency you need to communicate with your access point (AP), the default is channel 6 - 2.437GHz
[03:42] <r4nge> when ubuntu says that it ships with all ports closed by default, what do they mean, what is being used to close the ports, not iptables
[03:42] <lvleat> cool. but uh. how would i put a WEP key?
[03:42] <rukuartic> greig_: Congrats :D Enjoying it so far?
[03:42] <lvleat> do I need to
[03:42] <rukuartic> lvleat: I've never done WEP :( But I know you can!
[03:42] <`Lucas> Hey, what is the best program to burn an iso to a cd?
[03:42] <BenC> dieguito: Ok, I'll check on that, thanks
[03:42] <bruenig> `Lucas, cdrecord
[03:42] <stephano> greig_, if you're running the latest version of Ubuntu, try launching Synaptic and having a look at the available Kernel Images
[03:42] <greig_> rukuartic : so far its just knowing how to install things etc
[03:42] <dieguito> BenC: no problem, I'll stick around so if you need me to test it, just ping me
[03:42] <rukuartic> `Lucas: You should be able to right click the file and hit "burn to disk"
[03:43] <malic> lvleat: I would recomend install gnome-network-manager
[03:43] <rukuartic> greig_: Do you know about Synaptic yet?
[03:43] <dhorn> Is there anyone that can help me with an alsa problem?  Namely with the hda-intel driver?
[03:43] <Jaguar> lvleat: You're going to want to install network-manager-gnome, works well with my BCM4318
[03:43] <GirlRiver> I have a new bluetooth wireless MS keyboard & Mouse ... can anyone point me to an Ubuntu installation guide please ?
[03:43] <rukuartic> lvleat: Do you have a gui, or are you trying to stay in a command line?
[03:43] <lvleat> Oh. Ok. I can use Synaptic right?
[03:43] <bruenig> `Lucas, it is installed by default, just do cdrecord dev=/dev/<name> <nameofiso>.iso
[03:43] <lvleat> GUI
[03:43] <Jaguar> lvleat: or what malic said :)
[03:43] <rukuartic> lvleat: Ah then totally use the network manager
[03:43] <lvleat> you guys/girls rock :D
[03:44] <greig_> stephano i shall, on a side note, when i hit sotware up dates, and check , i scanns like 99 updates fast, tehn i get a error, is there a problem at the moment or do u think maybe i have a problem
[03:44] <`Lucas> On Windows?
[03:44] <lovloss> i built a new computer, and it has a SATA drive in 64-bit architecture... am i going to be able to install feisty?
[03:44] <stephano> greig_, that depends on the error
[03:44] <rukuartic> `Lucas: Haha... urm, on windows you should be able to right click it and hit burn to disk.. ...I think
[03:44] <greig_> stephano : W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[03:44] <greig_> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[03:44] <greig_> W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[03:44] <`Lucas> I am installing ubuntu on my computer upstairs.
[03:44] <`Lucas> Ahh, I wasn't sure if that would work or if you needed an iso program to install it.
[03:44] <cafuego_> lovloss: yup, but you may have problems with java and flash applets on websites
[03:45] <Jaguar> lvleat: synaptic or `sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome`
[03:45] <lvleat> um. synaptic said it installed...how do I run it?
[03:45] <lovloss> cafuego_: Thats going to be a browser issue.
[03:45] <bluecat9> Windows XP doesn't support burning ISO's :) need a plugin/prog
[03:45] <waxyfresh> how much ram would be used by swicthing  from gnome to fluxbox
[03:45] <cafuego_> lovloss: No, 64bit issue
[03:45] <cafuego_> lovloss: But there's no reason the disk won't work
[03:45] <`Lucas> Ahh, thats what I thought.
[03:45] <Bohica_> Evening to all
[03:46] <J^son> hello I just downloaded ubuntu 6.10; I want to install it on my desktop which currently is running win XP.. how do I get started?
[03:46] <rukuartic> So, what do you all run on your basement boxes?
[03:46] <lovloss> cafuego_: Oh. But it will install? I had to go through hell with winxp to get it to install to a SATA
[03:46] <Flannel> J^son: verify the MD5, then burn to a CD at 4x
[03:46] <rukuartic> J^son: Start backing up your data... thats the first step. Its pretty safe to install, but you can't be too careful.
[03:46] <cafuego_> lovloss: Yes, WinXP doesn't contain any SATA support, Linux does. Very good sata support./
[03:46] <greig_> stephano : that was the error i got.
[03:46] <lovloss> cafuego_: Oh, thats good
[03:46] <Jaguar> lvleat: Go to System->Preferences-Sessions, go to the Startup Programs tab, and add a Startup Command "nm-applet --sm-disable"
[03:46] <amacnay_> does the latest ubuntu install with lvm support?
[03:46] <balzac> windows is a tragedy
[03:46] <stephano> greig_, that looks like the app can't verify the signature/hash of the packages
[03:46] <waxyfresh> how much ram would be used by swicthing  from gnome to fluxbox
[03:47] <Bohica_> doe anyone have a step-by-step guide to setting up ubuntu as webserver
[03:47] <dhorn> Is there anyone that can help me with an alsa problem?  Namely with the hda-intel driver?
[03:47] <J^son> Flannel.. what do you mean by MD5?
[03:47] <Flannel> amacnay_: All of them do.  But you need the alternate CD.
[03:47] <Flannel> !md5 | J^son
[03:47] <ubotu> J^son: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:47] <lovloss> cafuego_: Oh good...
[03:47] <rukuartic> J^son: Don't worry about that step just yet.
[03:47] <Flannel> J^son: if you downloaded as a torrent, you don't need to worry about it.
[03:47] <lovloss> so is feisty going to have a 64 bit version prettuy quickly?
[03:47] <infidel> !feisty
[03:47] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:47] <cafuego_> it already does
[03:47] <waxyfresh> how much ram would be saved by swicthing  from gnome to fluxbox
[03:47] <lovloss> oh
[03:47] <greig_> stephano : have i cause a issue with my install ?
[03:47] <bruenig> waxyfresh, try it out and see
[03:47] <balzac> i think the "linux community" needs more leadership
[03:47] <Flannel> lovloss: I believe all of them do, except warty.
[03:47] <bruenig> balzac, I don't
[03:47] <rukuartic> balzac: step up
[03:47] <cafuego_> balzac: Sit down and be quiet.
[03:48] <Bohica_> how does one set up a webserver?
[03:48] <balzac> whoah
[03:48] <rukuartic> rofls.
[03:48] <lvleat> it was already there. I ran that command from Terminal and it started. but it only says wired connection when i left click on it =\
[03:48] <stephano> greig_, not really - Synaptic just won't grab packages until that's resolved
[03:48] <balzac> i've been called the "purity troll" on dailykos
[03:48] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Just install apache2 from the repos. It sets itself up.
[03:48] <stephano> greig_, you might want to try just reloading
[03:48] <lovloss> Trying to determine whether or not i should wait for feisty to be at its full version before installing it
[03:48] <rukuartic> J^son: How much free space do you have on your hard drive?
[03:48] <cafuego_> balzac: The problem is, the "linux community" doesn't want leadership, and when a leader tries to take leadership, the community happily ignores them.
[03:48] <balzac> apparently i hit a nerve
[03:48] <malic> so why is everyone switching windows managers anyway?
[03:48] <greig_> stephano : sometimes i get errors when loading web pages too, i'll check that out later, i'll fdeal with the kernel first
[03:48] <Jaguar> lvleat: You must disable your wireless card in System->Administration->Network Settings
[03:48] <Flannel> lovloss: you might ask in #ubuntu+1, they'll be able o tell you how stable it is
[03:48] <balzac> cafuego, maybe that's the problem
[03:49] <bruenig> leadership leads to monolithism
[03:49] <stephano> greig_,  have fun
[03:49] <Bohica_> ruluartic - I got that far, what is the next step.  I want to be able to host few sites.
[03:49] <rukuartic> Bohica_: What type of internet connection are you on?
[03:49] <lvleat> it is disabled... should i disable wired as well?
[03:49] <greig_> stephano : do i search on the synpatic for kernel ?
[03:49] <Bohica_> DSL
[03:49] <stephano> greig_, yes, that's a start
[03:49] <rukuartic> Bohica_: specifically? Verizon? Comcast?
[03:49] <balzac> i'll gladly step up and offer my opinion
[03:49] <rukuartic> balzac: take that to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[03:49] <greig_> stephano :ithanks
[03:49] <Jaguar> lvleat: Click on your wireless card, select Properties, uncheck enable this connection, and also make sure the symbol next to the wireless card is a "-" in the main window.
[03:49] <Bohica_> Dude I'm in Canada,  Bell Sympatico
[03:49] <balzac> i think there's too much ego in the open-source community
[03:49] <Jaguar> lvleat: No, you don't need to disable your wired.
[03:50] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Ok. You might want to make sure they let you do that in their TOS.
[03:50] <GirlRiver> Can someone help me set up my bluetooth wireless MS keyboard & Mouse on Ububtu 6.10 pleae?
[03:50] <rukuartic> Bohica_: If you're trying to set up an easy to manage thing that lets other people sign up and in, look around for "Ubuntu Perfect Setup" on google.
[03:50] <bruenig> balzac, leadership is stupid. If we had centralized leadership, there would be no ubuntu because nobody in their right mind would say yeah let's waste the communities resources forking
[03:50] <Jaguar> lvleat: Once you've done that, eject and reinsert your wireless card with gnome-network-manager running on your tray, then left click on it and it should give you options for you wireless card.
[03:50] <l90bpm> I'm a n00b, but I doubt it's ego.. they just get tired of people not doing there homework first
[03:51] <cafuego_> Once you organise anarchy, it's no longer anarchy.
[03:51] <rukuartic> Guys, balzac's trolling. Stop taking the bait.
[03:51] <Bohica_> do me a favour and go to the following address: http://127.0.0.1 let me know what you see
[03:51] <stephano> greig_, set your Synaptic Package Manager Status to see 'Installed' 'Not Installed' - select 'installed' and search for 'kernel-image'
[03:51] <greig_> stephano : i found this on the package manager.. what od u think?
[03:51] <rukuartic> Bohica_: I see my own website :3
[03:51] <greig_> Debian patches to Linux 2.4.27
[03:51] <greig_> This package includes the patches used to produce the prepackaged
[03:51] <greig_> kernel-source-2.4.27 package.  They should be applied to a pristine
[03:51] <greig_> Linux 2.4.27 kernel.
[03:51] <rukuartic> !paste > greig_
[03:51] <balzac> i'm not trolling, i'm just venting because i can't upgrade my ubuntu for some reason
[03:51] <bruenig> incompetence taken out on others
[03:51] <rukuartic> Bohica_: 127.0.0.1 is a special internet address that ALWAYS points to your own computer.
[03:52] <rukuartic> balzac: Then ask about upgrading instead of questioning GPL or something :P
[03:52] <Prometheus> hello
[03:52] <dougie> i can't seem to get any p2p program to work...i tried dc++ and i tried limewire and neither will work
[03:52] <cafuego_> You're probably not offering them enough wages.
[03:52] <rukuartic> Bohica_: The IP address you'd want to send me to is the one that you get off of www.ipchicken.com
[03:52] <Prometheus> please someone can explain me how i can install the include files of X11R6?
[03:52] <greig_> stephanos : Debian patches to Linux 2.4.27
[03:52] <greig_> This package includes the patches used to produce the prepackaged
[03:52] <greig_> kernel-source-2.4.27 package.  They should be applied to a pristine
[03:52] <greig_> Linux 2.4.27 kernel.
[03:52] <cafuego_> Prometheus: install x-dev
[03:53] <Prometheus> thanks a lot cafuego!
[03:53] <rukuartic> Prometheus: <package name>-dev always contains the headers etc
[03:53] <balzac> i'm satisfied that my upgrade options are sufficiently complicated that i'm better off backing up and re-installing.
[03:53] <mlabbe> Okay, i installed GRUB to my primary partition.   Now when I boot the Windows Vista option it says "starting up..." and doesn't load.  The Ubuntu partition "can't be mounted" either.  What is going on?
[03:53] <balzac> but my faith in apt is shaken a bit
[03:54] <balzac> i suppose i'd be stable if i hadn't used the un-official repositories
[03:54] <rukuartic> balzac: You might be onto something there.
[03:54] <Madpilot> logik-bomb, kill the np script right now, thanks
[03:54] <Prometheus> what do you mean rukuartic?
[03:54] <Jaguar> lvleat: Sorry, my power cut out and my router went down, did you make any progress?
[03:54] <bruenig> balzac, yeah and that recursive rm of /usr was a bad idea too
[03:54] <rukuartic> Prometheus: For example... (I think...) ncurses-dev would contain the headers for ncurses library.
[03:54] <stephano> greig_, have a look at, and RTFM for kernel-package; you should see it in Synaptic
[03:54] <cosmo_> how do I share files with other computer's on my network that are running windows?
[03:54] <malic> dose anyone have a good solution to using yahoo messenger in linux besides gaim.
[03:55] <bruenig> !samba | cosmo_
[03:55] <ubotu> cosmo_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:55] <balzac> well, the supported repositories seem a bit old
[03:55] <rukuartic> balzac: Compile from source then.
[03:55] <Prometheus> I'm trying to use Irrlicht on Linux, but I'm getting errors on the building process, and I thought that it was because my X11R6 directory misses the include directory
[03:55] <cosmo_> thanks
[03:55] <balzac> i'm always wanting the latest GIMP, Inkscape, Blender, Firefox, etc.
[03:55] <rukuartic> balzac: or, step up.
[03:55] <dhorn> Is anyone familiar with the ALSA hda-intel driver?
[03:55] <bruenig> balzac, the latest firefox?
[03:55] <cafuego_> balzac: That's what backports are for.
[03:55] <Flannel> balzac: then maybe Ubuntu isn't the distro for you.
[03:55] <Madpilot> balzac, so, which apps do you help package, then?
[03:55] <balzac> audacity, open office
[03:55] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I get access permission is currently denied
[03:56] <balzac> Flannel, what alternative would you recommend?
[03:56] <mkquist> hey folks, this is gettin old, cant get installs to work. grub just hangs saying 'grub loading' any help?
[03:56] <rukuartic> Bohica_: When you do what?
[03:56] <Bohica_> I think it's bell that causing it
[03:56] <greig_>  stephanos : there is alot of those 2.4 images u mentioned, could u point me to which one is best
[03:56] <bruenig> trying to help package involves too many loops to jump through, I tried to but I couldn't figure out all the crap they wanted me to do
[03:56] <Bohica_> when I enter the IP address for m Chicken
[03:56] <rukuartic> Bohica_: You might find that bell is blocking port 80
[03:56] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Try adding "Listen 8080" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[03:56] <Flannel> balzac: Uh, I think SuSe is a rolling distro like what you're looking for.  And debian unstable.  Hmm, I'm not sure what others are rolling versions.
[03:56] <J^son> Flannel... may I msg you?
[03:56] <IcyMind> /join #security
[03:57] <Flannel> J^son: you can't, because you're not registered to freenode.
[03:57] <stephano> greig_, that depends on your hardware - notice the kernel-images are hardware specific
[03:57] <Jaguar> lvleat: You still around?
[03:57] <balzac> but doesn't SuSe cost something?
[03:57] <bruenig> balzac, opensuse
[03:57] <mEck0> Can someone help me with a compile-error (trying to learn me programming with Glade)?
[03:57] <Flannel> J^son: but, you can go ahead and ask here in the channel
[03:57] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Restart apache (sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart) and try your ip address again
[03:57] <bruenig> balzac, gentoo is good to
[03:57] <DM|> Someone please help me with this error : ffmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libraw1394.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:57] <greig_> stephanos : yeas i noticed, im using amd athlon xp 1800
[03:57] <amacnay_> can lvm done after an install?
[03:57] <J^son> ok.. where do I find the MD5 files?
[03:58] <greig_> stephanos however i do not know which image to choose
[03:58] <rukuartic> Bohica_: but this time, put http://my.ip.addr.ess:8080
[03:58] <Prometheus> well nevermind thanks in any case
[03:58] <dr-ini> question, probably been asked a thousand times. Is it possible to play flac with amarok?
[03:58] <rukuartic> J^son: Don't worry about that.
[03:58] <bruenig> J^son, you have to download them from the same place you downloaded the iso
[03:58] <greig_> stephanos : k7 i think?
[03:58] <lvleat_> w000. It works. Thanks a LOT you guys :D
[03:58] <rukuartic> J^son: I've never bothered to md5 anything.
[03:58] <bruenig> I just torrent it
[03:58] <balzac> well, i really like shuttleworth's bullish support of python
[03:58] <balzac> and i like the brand "ubuntu"
[03:59] <Jaguar> lvleat: Not a problem, glad I can help someone who has the same problem I did :)
[03:59] <stephano> greig_, I'm sorry, you're prolly looking at the K6 flavor, but I'm no expert on AMD CPU's
[03:59] <J^son> if I dowloaded a torrent, I should have it already?
[03:59] <Flannel> J^son: torrents do checking while downloading, yeah.
[03:59] <rukuartic> J^son: If you downloaded as atorrent you don't need to worry about it.
[03:59] <Bohica_> ruluartic - why is that when I'm logged in as owner I can't write to these fricken files
[03:59] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Those files are owned by "root"
[03:59] <bruenig> J^son, if you download it via bittorrent, every piece is hash checked so it should be flawless
[03:59] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Type "sudo -i" in the terminal
[03:59] <J^son> ok...
[03:59] <rukuartic> J^son: Indeed. What you need to do now is burn it to a CD.
[04:00] <J^son> so now I need to put that file on a CD?
[04:00] <greig_> stephanos : just reading up on the description the k7 seams to describe my chip so i shall go with that as i have the athlonXP chip
[04:00] <rukuartic> J^son: Not quite. You downloaded an ISO, which is essentially the raw data from the CD.
[04:00] <bruenig> J^son, here is a very thorough howto http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[04:00] <greig_> stephanos : so all i should do is install that and any other packages it advises?
[04:00] <rukuartic> J^son: What you want to do is burn the ISO to a CD... not just place it in a burnable CD folder. You should be able to right click it or something, and hit "Burn to CD"
[04:00] <J^son> thanks bruenig
[04:01] <five_laptop> doesn't feisty fawn have the new gnome menu from SLED in it?
[04:01] <Bohica_> rukuartic- this is what I get "-bash: /etc/apache2/ports.conf: Permission denied
[04:01] <Bohica_> "
[04:01] <bruenig> !feisty
[04:01] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:01] <stephano> greig_, looks more like you're running an AMD K7 proc
[04:01] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Yes... are you editing the files as "root"?
[04:01] <operator> five_laptop: u mean gimmie?
[04:02] <Bohica_> yes
[04:02] <greig_> stephanos yes i agree
[04:02] <Bohica_> rukuartic - here are the lines - root@agws-desktop:~# /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[04:02] <Bohica_> -bash: /etc/apache2/ports.conf: Permission denied
[04:02] <rukuartic> Bohica_: type "ls -l /etc/apache2/" and see who owns "ports.conf"
[04:02] <greig_> stephanos : so i shall install that package and any it suggest yes?
[04:03] <crdlb> operator, he means the slab I think
[04:03] <operator> ahh i see
[04:03] <Bohica_> root
[04:03] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Ok... type this in the terminal
[04:03] <rukuartic> Bohica_: "nano /etc/apache2/ports.conf"
[04:03] <bones> how do i install my video driver for my computer
[04:03] <bruenig> !ati | bones
[04:03] <ubotu> bones: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:04] <greggwith2gs> hi, I'm having a problem with GRUB on my machine.......when I boot, it just keeps repeating GRUB over and over again endlessly.......I'm not trying to dual boot windows and ubuntu, I just want to run ubuntu.....anyone know a solution to this problem?
[04:04] <Jaguar> !envy | bones
[04:04] <greig_> stephanos_: ok that is installed and i have a message telling me to do a system restart. shall it then have the 2.4 kernel option at boot ?
[04:04] <ubotu> bones: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[04:04] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Press ctrl+o to save, and ctrl+x to quit.
[04:04] <mkquist> greggwith2gs - i had that same prob last nite... did u use super grub disk?
[04:04] <greggwith2gs> super grub disk?
[04:04] <stephano> greig_, yup
[04:04] <mkquist> ill take that as a no then?
[04:04] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I think it worked
[04:05] <greggwith2gs> heh, nope, never heard of it, should I google it?
[04:05] <greig_> stephanos_: ok thank you take care
[04:05] <rukuartic> Bohica_: type "cat /etc/apache2/ports.conf"
[04:05] <rukuartic> If you see your edits there ti worked.
[04:05] <greggwith2gs> i'm fairly technically savvy, so i'll give that a look, and I'll bother you if I can't figure it out :-P
[04:05] <mkquist> greggwith2gs - cant hurt, supposed to fix grub, work sometimes
[04:05] <rukuartic> So does anyone host a website in their basement for just their intranet?
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: It is done, yes
[04:06] <rukuartic> Well I'm actually just wondering what they host :P
[04:06] <comwizz2> Hi, I am trying to figure out wich driver a modem is running off of, because it doesnt work and i want to disable it so i can replace it
[04:06] <Bohica_> PORN     lol
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: Companies do it for internal resources, for instance.
[04:06] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: Well of course! I'm just looking for something neat to host in my basement ot show off to friends.
[04:07] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I tried the IP address:8080 and I can't establish connection on my other computer
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: hehe - I had my blog on a home connection for a little while.  Networked games too
[04:07] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Did you restart apache?
[04:07] <d00by> for some reason i can't add any programs to my Sessions>StartUp Programs can anybody help me?
[04:07] <waxyfresh> my ethernet card just stopped working any ideas?
[04:08] <Bohica_> how you do that?     can you tell i'm new at this.   started using ubuntu yesterday
[04:08] <bones> how do i exit X
[04:08] <holotone> I've got some really odd behavior here.. Went to boot up my desktop this am, and got stuck on "Mounting Root Filesystem" during kubuntu's boot screen. Figuring my OS HDD crapped out, I attempted to reboot into a live Knoppix CD; The CD boot hangs @ "Detecting USB and Firewire devices". This time, I tried disconnecting the primary HDD and booted onto a Kubuntu 6.10 install CD - This ALSO hangs @ "Mounting Root Filesystem" on
[04:08] <rukuartic> Bohica_: type in this
[04:08] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:08] <d00by> bones, ctrl+alt+backspace restarts it
[04:08] <rukuartic> Bohica_: "/etc/init.d/apache restart"
[04:08] <comwizz2>  Hi, I am trying to figure out wich driver a modem is running off of, because it doesnt work and i want to disable it so i can replace it
[04:08] <d00by> bones, ctrl+alt+F1 brings up just a terminal it hink
[04:08] <adjioev> test
[04:08] <rukuartic> Bohica_: sorry thats "apache2"
[04:08] <d00by> for some reason i can't add any programs to my Sessions>StartUp Programs can anybody help me?
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> !modem | comwizz2
[04:09] <ubotu> comwizz2: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[04:09] <comwizz2> tryed that
[04:09] <comwizz2> the driver it is trying to use doesnt work
[04:09] <comwizz2> i installed new one, but it say device already has driver
[04:10] <comwizz2> [17179593.956000]  slamr: SmartLink AMRMO modem.
[04:10] <comwizz2> [17179593.956000]  slamr: device 10b9:5459 is grabbed by another driver
[04:10] <comwizz2> [17180400.868000]  slamr: SmartLink AMRMO modem.
[04:10] <comwizz2> [17180400.868000]  slamr: device 10b9:5459 is grabbed by another driver
[04:10] <d00by> for some reason i can't add any programs to my Sessions>StartUp Programs can anybody help me?
[04:10] <rukuartic> !paste >com
[04:10] <rukuartic> doh.
[04:10] <rukuartic> !paste > comwizz2
[04:10] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I think I will go with the google link that you gave me to set up my server.  I think I screwed it up somwhere and have no clue as to what I'm doing or what the next step is, etc., etc.
[04:10] <rukuartic> d00by: Try describing your problem in more detail.
[04:10] <bluecat9> d00by - what happens when you try?
[04:10] <comwizz2> what?
[04:10] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Naw, you haven't messed up anything yet. I'm pretty sure :P
[04:11] <comwizz2> !paste
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[04:11] <rukuartic> Bohica_: If you get a website when you visit http://127.0.0.1 you're on the right track.
[04:11] <comwizz2> got ya
[04:11] <Bohica_> OK
[04:11] <rukuartic> Bohica_: So did you restart apache?
[04:11] <d00by> whenever i add a program using Preferences>Sessions>StartUp Programs, it adds it to the list, but every time i log off or restart or whatever, the program i add to the startup list is no longer on the list, rukutaric & bluecat9
[04:11] <greggwith2gs> okay, super grub disk is definitely not going to work, because I've already tried reinstalling grub......grub is installed totally fine, as far as I can tell, it just gets caught in some sort of loop on bootup
[04:11] <comwizz2> anyways, anysugjestions
[04:12] <me_> hi
[04:12] <bluecat9> d00by - sorry, no clue. :)
[04:12] <rukuartic> d00by: ...it sounds like some file is marked read only.. but I wouldn't know which one
[04:12] <bluecat9> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu myself.. mainly here to learn.
[04:13] <comwizz2> did you set it to automatically save sessions?
[04:13] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I restarted apache and nothing happend.  This is what it gave me "root@agws-desktop:~# /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:13] <Bohica_>  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[04:13] <Bohica_> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[04:13] <Bohica_>                                                                          [ ok ] "
[04:13] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Yup it restarted
[04:13] <aboyousif> Bohica_, it is not error
[04:13] <aboyousif> Bohica_, it works
[04:13] <rukuartic> Bohica_: try this now... http://127.0.0.1:8080
[04:13] <aboyousif> just use 127.0.0.1
[04:14] <rukuartic> aboyousif: no... his ISP blocks port 80. I'm teaching him how to run it on different ports.
[04:14] <aboyousif> rukuartic, ok sorry i didn't knew that ..
[04:14] <rukuartic> aboyousif: its ok :P
[04:14] <Bohica_> rukuartic - it shows me the same page as before.
[04:14] <comwizz2> anyone know how to find out wich drivers a device is currently using?
[04:14] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Sweet.
[04:14] <Adlai> !beer me
[04:14] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Now try putting your ip from ipchicken into that, with the :8080 at the end still
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <rukuartic> !botsnack
[04:15] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:15] <aboyousif> !feisty
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[04:15] <Adlai> whoops, that was #debian wasn't it
[04:15] <davascript_home> !distcc
[04:15] <ubotu> distcc: Simple distributed compiler client and server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.18.3-3 (edgy), package size 138 kB, installed size 360 kB
[04:15] <Adlai> I get all these bots mixed up
[04:15] <davascript_home> !xtradius
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[04:15] <rukuartic> davascript_home: /msg ubotu if you're just interested. It adds less spam to the channel.
[04:16] <davascript_home> !k
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[04:16] <waxyfresh> aboyousif:no luck
[04:16] <mEck0> Why can't I see i.e. gnome's about dialog button in the palette (Glade)? I have installed glade-gnome
[04:16] <bung> hi, im just making a small 10gb partition for a share, do i use ext2 or ext3? im just using linux
[04:16] <davascript_home> oops
[04:16] <Bohica_> rukuartic - this is what I got "Firefox can't find the server at  74.13.76.148"
[04:16] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, any errors ?
[04:16] <waxyfresh> no
[04:16] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Hurm.
[04:16] <waxyfresh> aboyousif: no
[04:16] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, any messages ?
[04:17] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, do you use dhcp or static ip ?
[04:17] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Hurm. Try another port, say... 10000
[04:17] <rukuartic> Bohica_: They might block 8080 as well (its another popular port for internet traffic)
[04:17] <waxyfresh> aboyousif: no messages nothing dhcp
[04:17] <bluecat9> koala^?
[04:17] <Sayers> night
[04:18] <Bohica_> rukuartic - Are you telling me that I have to go through all the commands to write the stuff in or do I just type the port in my browser?
[04:18] <verve> anyone know of a program that can join multiple WMV (and other format) files into one?
[04:18] <verve> can k3b do it?
[04:18] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, well try a restart
[04:18] <rukuartic> Bohica_: No, you'll need to edit ports.conf to "Listen 10000"
[04:18] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Then restart apache2 again
[04:18] <rukuartic> Bohica_: And try http://74.13.76.148:10000/
[04:18] <Bohica_> AHHHHHHHHHHH
[04:18] <Bohica_> lol
[04:18] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Its frustrating isn't it?
[04:18] <Bohica_> YEAHHHHHHH
[04:19] <waxyfresh> aboyousif: already did and i justnow restarted xorg
[04:19] <rukuartic> Bohica_: If you're just looking for web hosting with Linux, I can recommend nearyfreespeech.net to you.
[04:19] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, no i mean restart you pc :)
[04:19] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, run ifconfig and give me the details of your lan card
[04:19] <waxyfresh> aboyousif: i did a few mins ago afterthe problem showed up
[04:20] <rukuartic> No, I'm spartacus!
[04:20] <rukuartic> Haha!
[04:20] <rukuartic> Bash
[04:20] <bluecat9> moo
[04:20] <Bohica_> rukuartic - thanks but I already got hosting out there, I just want to have my own.
[04:20] <SurfnKid> something that compares to ubuntu?
[04:20] <SurfnKid> fedora?
[04:20] <waxyfresh> aboyousif: network tools says my ethernet card isnt active i activate it and close out the window then open it again  and its deactivated
[04:21] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Hee... hosting in your own basement is fairly difficult.
[04:21] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, well try ifup eth0
[04:21] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, sudo ifup eth0
[04:21] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I'm willing to learn
[04:22] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I changed the port again and nada
[04:22] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Hurm. Your ISP might be blocking more ports than I expected! :P
[04:22] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Oh my gosh.
[04:22] <rukuartic> Bohica_: I just forgot. Are you forwarding ports through your router?
[04:22] <Bohica_> rukuartic - huh?
[04:23] <waxyfresh> aboyousif: no msg's or errors and no luck,now my networking panel isnt even opening
[04:23] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I got a router
[04:23] <aboyousif> rukuartic, is Bohica_ trying to get his own server outside the network ?
[04:23] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Who made it?
[04:23] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, well i cann't help in that
[04:23] <aboyousif> waxyfresh, sorry
[04:24] <mlabbe> so, whoever told me "good luck" because I'm trying to get GRUB to work with Vista... that was not constructive.  I have got Ubuntu and Vista coexisting.  It took me learning Grub and the wiki URL that was posted here.  Definitely not smooth.
[04:24] <waxyfresh> aboyousif: thanks for truing
[04:24] <waxyfresh> trying*
[04:24] <Bohica_> rukuartic - Linksys HUB
[04:24] <Ademan> are there any easy speech synthesis programs for linux?
[04:24] <overrider> is there an easy way to show all installed packages using apt?
[04:24] <rukuartic> Ademan: Yes, try "festival"
[04:24] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Type in this... http://192.168.1.1
[04:24] <Ademan> rukuartic: it complains that it can't open /dev/dsp
[04:24] <aboyousif> overrider, use aptitude
[04:25] <rukuartic> Bohica_: When someone tries to visit http://your-ip-addy:10000 the router intercepts the request, and doesn't know what to do with it so it drops it.
[04:26] <rukuartic> Bohica_: What you need to do, is tell it to "forward" all requests to the IP of your server.
[04:26] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I tried http://192.168.2.1 and I get the BELL modem status page and all the connections
[04:27] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Ah. Well then look around for "port forwarding" or something...
[04:27] <rukuartic> Bohica_: This is where Google might come in handy, I don't know how to do it with a bell router... ...unless you have two routers in your network!
[04:27] <ahhh_fosco> Can someone tell me where to download ubuntu themes?
[04:27] <aboyousif> Bohica_, does your router use NAT ?
[04:27] <koala^> hi.  Does the free ubuntu disk have an irc program built into it?
[04:27] <Apocrypha> www.portforward.com
[04:27] <aboyousif> ahhh_fosco, if you use gnome art.gnome.org ..
[04:27] <rukuartic> ahhh_fosco: Try gnome-look.org
[04:28] <ahhh_fosco> thanks guys
[04:28] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Yes, see Apocrypha's link (portforward.com)
[04:28] <Apocrypha> nice step by step instructions to forward ports on a LOT of routers
[04:28] <Bohica_> aboyousif - I'm using a LINKSYS HUB
[04:28] <DM|> Someone please help me with this error : ffmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libraw1394.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:28] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Yes... ...but you said you saw "Dell"
[04:28] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Which makes me think you have two routers in your setup
[04:28] <Apocrypha> oh noes, 2 routers is a horrible thing to deal with
[04:29] <rukuartic> yes it is
[04:29] <heat``> BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
[04:29] <bluecat9> koala^ - I want to say Xchat..
[04:29] <koala^> bluecat9 well, does it have xchat?
[04:29] <rukuartic> Apocrypha: What, forward from main router to second router to computer?
 Use Irssi!
[04:29] <Apocrypha> I have that in my house, I DMZ'd myself from the second
[04:30] <rukuartic> XD
[04:30] <balzac> why irssi?
[04:30] <Apocrypha> then just forwarded from there
[04:30] <Apocrypha> balzac, it's smaller
[04:30] <Apocrypha> uses less resources
[04:30] <rukuartic> And amazing.
[04:30] <Apocrypha> and... amazing
[04:30] <Bohica_> rukuartic - sorry for the confusion I got the ADSL Modem and Lynksys Hub.  When I typed the IP 192.168.2.1 I got the connection screen from the modem and all other crap from Bell.
[04:30] <bluecat9> koala^ - I think they started including xchat with Edgy but don't quote me on that..
[04:31] <balzac> would you prefer Xfce over Gnome as well?
[04:31] <aboyousif> does any xchat user here have the xchat sounds ?
[04:31] <rukuartic> balzac: What are these GUI's you speak of?
[04:31] <rukuartic> balzac: I live ina  world of screen, nano, and bash.
[04:31] <balzac> smaller is better, right?
[04:31] <Apocrypha> no, because I don't think they have drivers for soundblaster X-Fi
[04:31] <koala^> bluecat9 one I have is 5.10
[04:31] <Apocrypha> smaller with the same amount of features is better
[04:31] <rukuartic> Pine/mutt and w3m... moc
[04:32] <DM|> Anyone know a video converter that DOESNT suck ?
[04:32] <koala^> bluecat9 does the 5.10 have an irc chat program?
[04:32] <rukuartic> DM|: Linux isn't too swift with ideo :(
[04:32] <rukuartic> koala^: Yup
[04:32] <koala^> rukuartic is it xchat?
[04:32] <rukuartic> koala^: You might need to install it from the CD
[04:32] <DM|> rukuartic i know.. and no one is able to help me with my ffmpeg error
[04:32] <rukuartic> koala^: I'm pretty sure
[04:32] <balzac> where's all the money going?
[04:32] <rukuartic> DM|: Yeah I saw that, its really weird.
[04:32] <koala^> ah thanks
[04:32] <dsquare> hi i dont have permissions to write to my partition! please help??
[04:33] <Apocrypha> balzac, they burn it
[04:33] <DM|> rukuartic = (
[04:33] <rukuartic> dsquare: What type of partition is it? What format?
[04:33] <balzac> i want linux to be top-notch in video, gaming and multimedia
[04:33] <dsquare> the same as default ubuntu?
[04:33] <dsquare> ext3 i think?
[04:33] <balzac> blender is doing there part
[04:33] <rukuartic> balzac: Start programming.
[04:33] <rukuartic> dsquare: Have you mounted it?
[04:33] <balzac> rukuartic, i'm better at evangelizing than programming
[04:33] <dsquare> ye
[04:33] <dsquare> yes
[04:33] <dsquare> its still thre when i reboot
[04:33] <balzac> but i did donate $50 to a project i liked, recently
[04:34] <rukuartic> dsquare: Who owns the folder its mounted to?
[04:34] <balzac> i'm probably going to donate more
[04:34] <whta> is it normal for KDE apps to run REALLY SLOW on gnome?
[04:34] <Vaske_Car> I connected HP USB printer and now what? How do I make it work?
[04:34] <balzac> i'm obsessed with certain functionality
[04:34] <craigbass1976> where the iptables rules file that iptables reads?
[04:34] <cafuego_> Vaske_Car: system > admin > printer > add printer
[04:34] <cafuego_> craigbass1976: There isn't one.
[04:34] <rukuartic> balzac: Might want to try yelling at hardware vendors too.
[04:34] <greggwith2gs> alrighty, repairing GRUB did nothing, and switching the drive's access mode to LBA did nothing.....anyone have any ideas on why GRUB gets caught in an infinite loop on bootup?
[04:35] <yigal> Vaske+Car: hp-setup via command line if it also a scanner
[04:35] <craigbass1976> cafuego, what?  how does it know what to block when you boot?
[04:35] <Vaske_Car> cafuego, The CUSP server could not be contacted.
[04:35] <balzac> rukuartic, i have an idea
[04:35] <Vaske_Car> CUPS
[04:35] <cafuego_> craigbass1976: Unless you add rules, it doesn't.
[04:35] <yigal> VC: hp-setup is nice
[04:35] <balzac> FOSS projects need to do some mergers and aquisitions to match the mergers and aquisitions on the proprietary side
[04:35] <mkquist> for me grub hangs at 'gub loading' anyone have idea about that?
[04:35] <rukuartic> greggwith2gs: sadly no... have you tried #grub, ubuntuforums or anything else?
[04:35] <yigal> you might have to install a small qt package to get the gui to work
[04:35] <whta> is it normal for KDE apps to run REALLY SLOW on gnome?
[04:35] <cafuego_> craigbass1976: An exception being some of the frontends like firestarter, but I don't use them, so i don't know.
[04:36] <greggwith2gs> yeah, i've been going through tons of forum posts
[04:36] <dsquare> rukartic root owns the folder its mounted to.
[04:36] <balzac> we need some negotiated settlements in the name of interoperability
[04:36] <greggwith2gs> but I wasn't aware grub had it's own channel
[04:36] <yigal> VC: use sudo hp-setup
[04:36] <rukuartic> dsquare: What group? "plugdev"?
[04:36] <greggwith2gs> i'll go ask there, thanks!
[04:36] <dsquare> access files
[04:36] <dsquare> root
[04:36] <balzac> there are too many redundant projects and some need to merge
[04:36] <rukuartic> greggwith2gs: I'm just guessing :P
[04:36] <dsquare> root
[04:36] <cafuego_> craigbass1976: I usually add 'up' and 'down' entries in /etc/network/interfaces and use them to call `iptables-save' and 'iptables-restore' when appropriate.
[04:36] <craigbass1976> cafuego, I'm used to RH where there's an /etc/sysconfig/iptables file, so if you don't want to write rules in the command line, you can just vi the file.  SO you saying there's no such equivilent in ubuntu?
[04:36] <dsquare> i want to pwn my partition. ;)
[04:36] <rukuartic> dsquare: I think you might have had it mounted wrong... I can't remember how to do it correctly though...
[04:36] <rukuartic> !mount > dsquare
[04:37] <rukuartic> dsquare: I remember having rouble with that too.
[04:37] <dsquare> ok
[04:37] <koala^> is ubuntu better than fedora in any way, if so how?
[04:37] <dsquare> the person who told me about it seemed unsure
[04:37] <SurfnKid> is fedora a different option for ubuntu?
[04:37] <rukuartic> koala^: All distros ahve their perks and downsides.
[04:37] <craigbass1976> koala^, longer life cycle, at least with dapper.
[04:37] <Apocrypha> koala^, that's a bit vague
[04:37] <balzac> koala^, ubuntu has more credibility as a humanitarian distro
[04:37] <rukuartic> koala^: Ubuntu's just nice because of the community.
[04:37] <balzac> redhat is very corporate
[04:37] <yigal> koala:we help those who need help
[04:38] <rukuartic> koala^: but Fedora is the same thing as Ubuntu, with a few differences here and there to just the end user.
[04:38] <yigal> koala::)
[04:38] <SurfnKid> I'll never touch RH again
[04:38] <harry> Is there a scanner application other than XSane? I can never get it to do hi-res images
[04:38] <SurfnKid> any other distro but RH
[04:38] <craigbass1976> koala^, and while not so much comes by default with Ubuntu, you've got an up and running OS in less than an hour when you install.
[04:38] <koala^> I've noted that updating fedora is a very heavy project, it requires huge disk space
[04:38] <rukuartic> harry: At least you can get it to scan :( Mine doesn't work.
[04:38] <balzac> apt vs rpm
[04:38] <rukuartic> koala^: another upside of ubuntu :P
[04:38] <SurfnKid> nice
[04:38] <quixote9> koala: I use fedora (core 3) and Kubuntu.  Ubuntu has better upgrade, better package manager, better multimedia support "out of the box".
[04:38] <cafuego_> harry: Doesn't do hi-res when you tell it to scan at 600dpi?
[04:38] <yigal> rukuartic:what r u trying to get to work
[04:38] <sree> hi
[04:39] <harry> How do I tell it to do that?
[04:39] <koala^> quixote9 interesting.....
[04:39] <rukuartic> yigal: Nothing :P
[04:39] <yigal> ruk:ok
[04:39] <harry> and it recently gives me odd errors
[04:39] <balzac> but redhat has better enterprise support resources
[04:39] <craigbass1976> koala^, and while I like the folks in #fedora for the most part, nobody has ever yelled at me in here for "stupid" questions
[04:39] <balzac> ubuntu is ramping up
[04:39] <maxxism> hey folks.   which log on an edgy nfs server would tell me why my other ubuntu box is being "Permission Denied" when mounting an NFS partition that was working before a restore on the client computer?  I am sure it has something to do with the hash of the client?????
[04:39] <harry> and makes my scanner make horrible screeching noises
[04:39] <sree> I am looking to use my Svideo TVout on my laptop just like I do in windows
[04:40] <frenzy> jrib, hello
[04:40] <harry> so i will use the windoze box downstairs
[04:40] <sree> Can someone point me on howto do that
[04:40] <pkh> I'm looking for a new wireless card for my girlfriends laptop to replace a netgear wg111t(no drivers in ubuntu) -- we're looking at the pcmcia netgear 511t (the docs say it works out of the box at the moment.  Has anyone had any experience with this card -- The thing I'm worried about is that it might work now buut a later version might not be comaptible -- is there a 'best' or '
[04:40] <Vampier> hi
[04:40] <eck> maxxism: i would just do a 'grep -iR nfs /var/log'
[04:40] <quixote9> balzac: you get to pay for those enterprise support resources at redhat.  Don't know how much Ubuntu charges, though.
[04:40] <rukuartic> sree: You should just be able to push the button that switches video out
[04:40] <Vampier> anyone see this link yet?
[04:40] <Vampier>  http://tinyurl.com/3ywuz4
[04:40] <eck> it is probably var/log/auth.log
[04:40] <pkh> most common' card that we should be looking at -- we can buy anythign at this stage...
[04:40] <cafuego_> harry: When the scan dialog is up, it has a pull-down that defaults to 150, it's labeled with a collection of dots of differing sizes.
[04:40] <balzac> ubuntu is downstream from the venerable debian distro which has wide use in academic and scientific settings
[04:40] <maxxism> eck thanx
[04:40] <frenzy> how would i go about getting a shortcut on my desktop to my hdb??
[04:40] <eck> balzac: so does redhat...
[04:40] <rukuartic> balzac: #ubuntu-offtopic seriously. This isn't a discussion channel.
[04:41] <bluecat9> pkh - this is what i got: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833320105
[04:41] <yigal> frenz: if you mount it, it should just show up on the Desktop
[04:41] <balzac> couldn't #ubuntu-offtopic have a more welcoming name?
[04:41] <rukuartic> ...not really.
[04:41] <balzac> it sounds negative, as if it's a form of banishment
[04:41] <frenzy> yigal, its mounted... do i have to reboot completely to get it on my desktop
[04:41] <sree> rukuartic : thats it ?
[04:41] <rukuartic> balzac: go there and ask for #ubuntu-discussion
[04:42] <cafuego_> balzac: it is.
[04:42] <rukuartic> sree: Did it work?
[04:42] <maxxism> eck wow what the hell was that?
[04:42] <eck> maxxism: the grep command?
[04:42] <balzac> well jeez, maybe i should banish myself to #debian instead
[04:42] <maxxism> yeah
[04:42] <yigal> frenz: no
[04:42] <Madpilot> balzac, -offtopic is for everything that's offtopic to this channel - ie, everything but support questions.
[04:42] <eck> search for all occurrences of the word nfs in /var/log, regardless of case
[04:42] <rukuartic> balzac: Its not that we don't want to discuss stuff with you, we just don't want to discuss it with you here.
[04:42] <maxxism> eck it returned a whole bunch of stuff.
[04:42] <yigal> frenz: what distro r u using?
[04:42] <IdleOne> wow Madpilot heya
[04:43] <eck> that's the easiest way to figure out which files have nfs things :-)
[04:43] <Madpilot> evening IdleOne
[04:43] <IdleOne> Madpilot, havent seen you in a while
[04:43] <koala^> thanks guys
[04:43] <eck> try looking at auth.log though
[04:43] <Vaske_Car> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart fixed the problem
[04:43] <Bagualas> Hi, i`m having some problem, I installed ubuntu on a slave HDD, but when reboot, grub gives error 21. Help?
[04:43] <maxxism> eck i know what grep is though.  its a text parser
[04:43] <frenzy> yigal, it works fine i just mounted it today and can see and acces all the files there i just cant get it on my desktop
[04:43] <sree> rukuartic : didn't work
[04:43] <frenzy> yigal, ubuntu edgy
[04:43] <rukuartic> Bagualas: Have you looked on google for "error 21"?
[04:43] <sree> rukuartic: I have a dell laptop
[04:43] <rukuartic> sree: Who made your laptop?
[04:43] <Madpilot> IdleOne, I'm around fairly regularly, lurking...
[04:43] <balzac> Well, when you put it that way, it doesn't seem like a reprimand
[04:43] <rukuartic> sree: Inspirion or something?
[04:43] <sree> rukuartic : inspiron 600m
[04:43] <Bagualas> rukuartic: yeah, I didnt find any help
[04:43] <yigal> frenz: strange, very
[04:43] <balzac> but the name is uneccessarily utilitarian and blunt
[04:44] <rukuartic> Bagualas: I'm sorry, I'm no expert on grub :(
[04:44] <balzac> #ubuntu-offtopic just sounds like you're wasting your time on something irrelevant
[04:44] <frenzy> yigal, im goint to try a compleat re-boot
[04:44] <LurkerOne> :P
[04:44] <cafuego_> balzac: You can discuss the name on #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:44] <Bagualas> :((((((((((
[04:44] <Madpilot> balzac, the nature of -offtopic is best discussed in -offtopic, not here.
[04:44] <rukuartic> Bagualas: There might be some folks there...
[04:44] <yigal> frenz: ok
[04:44] <balzac> i'll mention it there
[04:44] <sree> rukuartic: I just connected my svideo and then did a fn-F8
[04:44] <rukuartic> sree: Let me look for a moment to see if I can find anything
[04:45] <cafuego_> Besides, #ubuntu-we-would-prefer-you-did-not-ask-non-support-questions-here is a dumb name
[04:45] <sree> rukuartic : is there any config involvde. like xorg.conf ?
[04:45] <[R] eaper> how can i change the TV resolution?? (ati radeon X1600)
[04:45] <yurimxpxman> !devfs
[04:45] <rukuartic> sree: ...there shouldn't be. I'm not entirely sure. I'm not too good with hardware issuse.
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <james296> what do I do to check what version of Wine I currently have?
[04:46] <rukuartic> sree: You might like here... http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~rcs5y/600m.html may contain useful information
[04:46] <screaming_flower> My compliments to Alberto Milone.  Envy was the only thing that would get the right driver for an Daimond ATI 1950 Pro on an AMD 64 system, working with the Gateway 24" LCD.  We tried for 3 days nonstop and Envy fixed it.  Here is his site for anyone else.  I found it lurking this forum a earlier this hour.  But its worth repeating.
[04:47] <Bagualas> Hi, i`m having some problem, I installed ubuntu on a slave HDD, but when reboot, grub gives error 21. Help?
[04:47] <yurimxpxman> I just compiled the latest kernel (plus initrd & modules), but when I try to boot it, it says that devfs is an unknown file system. What am I doing wrong here? Is there an option I should have checked when I compiled the kernel, or what?
[04:47] <screaming_flower> forgot the link: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[04:48] <Jaguar> Yup, ubotu has a factoid about envy.
[04:48] <yurimxpxman> **It may be worth noting that I'm dual booting with Solaris, because it appears that devfs is my Solaris partition..
[04:48] <sree> rukuartic :  Don't think there's anything useful on that webpage... atleast i didn't see any
[04:48] <rukuartic> Bagualas: This might be helpful http://www.mepis.org/node/7330
[04:49] <rukuartic> sree: I really have no clue... You might find more help browsing http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/
[04:49] <Bagualas> rukuartic: i`ll take a look, ty =P
[04:49] <rukuartic> sree: There are some things which just don't work in linux... but that sounds do-able.
[04:49] <rukuartic> sree: I know, because my svideo out works.
[04:49] <eck> yurimxpxman: devfs has been removed from the kernel some time ago
[04:49] <cafuego_> /usr/bin/find /var/lib/mysql -type d -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -exec /usr/bin/basename {}\; | while read db; do mysqldump $db > $db.`/bin/date +%Y%m%d`.sql; done
[04:49] <cafuego_> whee
[04:49] <rukuartic> cafuego_: That your mysql backup script?
[04:49] <sree> rukuartic : I did look those places... found things very confusing
[04:50] <koala^> anyone, does Ubuntu have a photo program, like picasa, in windows?
[04:50] <yurimxpxman> eck: That's why I'm wondering if it has something to do with my solaris partition.
[04:50] <rukuartic> koala^: You can get picasa for linux
[04:50] <cafuego_> rukuartic: More or less, there's a gzip -9 step too.
[04:50] <yurimxpxman> koala: GSpot is great
[04:50] <sree> rukuartic: what exactly did u do to get ur svideo working ?
[04:50] <rukuartic> sree: Sadly, linux is very confusing some times.
[04:50] <rukuartic> sree: It worked out of the box.
[04:50] <cafuego_> koala^: f-spot
[04:50] <yurimxpxman> *F-SPot
[04:50] <yurimxpxman> *F-Spot
[04:50] <yurimxpxman> :P
[04:50] <yurimxpxman> my bad, lol
[04:50] <dsquare> rukuartic, how do i edit my drives configuration file? fstab??
[04:50] <dsquare> please?
[04:50] <eck> so you can boot up but not mount your solaris partition, or what?
[04:51] <Bagualas> rukuartic: I made somechanges, i`ll reboot, keep that link pls =D
[04:51] <koala^> rukuartic there isn't a resident photo program in ubuntu 5.10?
[04:51] <rukuartic> dsquare: Yes. You'll need to edit as root though! try "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" or "sudo nano /etc/fstab" if you're in a terminal
[04:51] <sree> rukuartic: don't think linux is that confusing... just that I didn't see a specific howto on getting tvout working
[04:51] <Squee> I have an intel pro pc camera, I want to set it up as a security camera eventually, but I'm having trouble getting any input in linux... anyone have any ideas
[04:51] <rukuartic> koala^: I don't think so...
[04:51] <yurimxpxman> eck: I can boot my old kernel and Solaris, but the 2.6.20.3 kernel I just compiled gives me an error saying that devfs is an unknown file system, and it terminates the init.
[04:51] <rukuartic> sree: Its a fussy thing that not many people have to deal with. Its like wireless or trying to get an internal card reader working.
[04:51] <dsquare> thanks :)
[04:51] <carpediem> koala^: There's a photo viewer, a basic one.  FSpot is an easy Synaptic install away.
[04:51] <sree> Guys can someone help me with getting svideo work on my inspiron
[04:51] <rukuartic> sree: I got my internal card reader working, but it took a few hours of google to work.
[04:52] <rukuartic> sree: Try making a post on the ubuntuforums.
[04:52] <calabiyau> ls
[04:52] <sree> rukuartic: thanks for ur help
[04:52] <Vivix729> my card reader and web cam don't work :(
[04:52] <Vivix729> no drivers for them
[04:53] <calabiyau> running beryl:)
[04:53] <frenzy> can some one help me, my second hd is set as read only how do i change it to full access
[04:53] <toulouse> beryl is awesome
[04:54] <yurimxpxman> eck: Do you have any ideas about what my problem may be? Perhaps it's trying to mount my Solaris partition as the root device?
[04:54] <rukuartic> calabiyau: congrats :D
[04:54] <rukuartic> sree: no problem
[04:54] <yurimxpxman> frenzy: Is the drive NTFS?
[04:54] <rukuartic> !mount > frenzy
[04:54] <sree> Guys can someone help me with getting svideo work on my inspiron
[04:54] <calabiyau> tnx:)
[04:54] <frenzy> yurimxpxman, yes
[04:54] <sum0> allo
[04:54] <eck> yurimxpxman: it's possible, i'm not really sure. devfs has been removed since 2.6.16 so it's weird that you did not get such an error until now
[04:54] <calabiyau> still get black windows every once in a while......nvidia drivers
[04:54] <yurimxpxman> frenzy: You'll need to download the support from http://www.ntfs-3g.org
[04:55] <rukuartic> sree: I'd say the forums are a better place to ask. More people see it, and its up for a longer period of time
[04:55] <toulouse> hey the new nvidia drivers are in repos right???
[04:55] <toulouse> and they have all that xgl built in?
[04:55] <toulouse> i heard this from someone
[04:55] <rukuartic> frenzy: writing to ntfs from linux is risky, keep that in mind.
[04:55] <yurimxpxman> eck: I installed Solaris after Ubuntu, and this is the first time I've tried to compile a kernel with this installation of Ubuntu (or on this computer, for that matter)
[04:55] <calabiyau> i just installed 1.0-9746 today
[04:55] <yurimxpxman> rukuartic: Not necessarily. It's fairly stable, and they have 0% data corruption.
[04:55] <toulouse> yurimxpxman: is solaris cool?
[04:56] <adjioev> frenzy, be careful i installed ntfs3 setup write mode and now my windows is dead :( so just in case backup ur important data
[04:56] <sum0> sree: what video chipset
[04:56] <rukuartic> yurimxpxman: just what I've heard
[04:56] <rukuartic> sum0: Its a Dell Inspiron 600m
[04:56] <frenzy> adjioev, i dont use windows anymore
[04:56] <sree> sum0: ATI
[04:56] <yurimxpxman> toulouse: Honestly, it's a horrible system for a desktop system, but it makes a great server :)
[04:56] <toulouse> yuri: im only desktop
[04:56] <toulouse> no use for me
[04:56] <frenzy> adjioev, so i guess that theres no problem then right?:
[04:56] <toulouse> thanks
[04:56] <yurimxpxman> frenzy: You should convert that NTFS to ext3 if you're not going to use Windows anymore
[04:56] <frenzy> rukuartic, how so?
[04:56] <Vivix729> i have a dumb question regarding XChat...how do i specify the server port when i try to connect?
[04:56] <cafuego_> yurimxpxman: That makes 2 people here who lost all of their windows data after using ntfs-3g
[04:56] <adjioev> frenzy, well why do u need ntfs support then? :)
[04:56] <sum0> sree:  lemme check my xorg stash...brb
[04:56] <dsquare> i cant edit my partition because its in use, but im not using it for anything, why is it in use? how do i make it unmount??
[04:57] <rukuartic> frenzy: Or at least fat32 if you want to be able to read it in 'doze
[04:57] <eck> yurimxpxman: did you boot into single user mode? that will give you a lot more troubleshooting information
[04:57] <sree> sum0: ok
[04:57] <frenzy> yurimxpxman,  can i do taht without having to format all taht data??
[04:57] <rukuartic> dsquare: "sudo umount /media/location"
[04:57] <yurimxpxman> dsquare: sudo umount /mnt/name
[04:57] <frenzy> adjioev, 2 much data taht i dont wat to loose
[04:57] <yurimxpxman> eck: What do you mean by "singler user mode"?
[04:57] <yurimxpxman> frenzy: No. You'll need to backup your data on another disk.
[04:58] <adjioev> frenzy, yeah still careful, burn really important data on DVD
[04:58] <rukuartic> yurimxpxman: Basically, second option in GRUB menu. Logs you into a terminal as root without checking passwords.
[04:58] <frenzy> yurimxpxman, thast the problem, maind hd 40gb hdb 120gb and its all full
[04:58] <rukuartic> frenzy: Hard drive space is cheap. Buy a new one?
[04:58] <yurimxpxman> frenzy: That would be a problem. I'd suggest ntfs-3g until you can borrow or buy another HDD
[04:58] <frenzy> adjioev, im gona do that but its about 112gb i get lazy
[04:58] <frenzy> rukuartic, not in brazil
[04:58] <eck> yurimxpxman: it's where you boot up a unix system directly into a root shell, in ubuntu the grub option that boots into single user mode also enables all the kernel output that is normally hidden
[04:58] <yurimxpxman> rukuartic: This is a custom kernel..
[04:59] <neozen> meep ::waves::
[04:59] <neozen> hoallo all
[04:59] <adjioev> frenzy, yeah just wanted to warn you
[04:59] <pisedoffcracker1> can anyone tell me if it is possible to store stuff on a virtual harddrive
[04:59] <eck> well, just look at what grub has for the single user option
[04:59] <pisedoffcracker1> in virtualbox
[04:59] <calabiyau> anyone running feisty?
[04:59] <yurimxpxman> eck: I'll take a look at my GRUB config and see if I can figure out how to do that with my new kernel..
[04:59] <SurfnKid> edgy
[04:59] <frenzy> yurimxpxman, actualy i have a 160 taht i borroed from a friend .. but its already full
[04:59] <SurfnKid> and its giving me problems
[04:59] <neozen> xubuntu chat is dead... so I figured I'd stop in here
[04:59] <eck> as long as you are getting all the kernel nonsense that is normally suppressed
[04:59] <balzac> neozen, take it back to xubuntu
[04:59] <cafuego_> pisedoffcracker1: Of course, just enable file sharing on the virtualised OS.
[04:59] <BeastlyKings> How do I install ubuntu along side my windows partion? or with it or whatever? I'm a noob so go easy...
[04:59] <frenzy> yurimxpxman, i kinda went dl crazy
[04:59] <balzac> if it's about xubuntu, bring it up in xubuntu
[04:59] <balzac> this is ubuntu
[05:00] <Squee> calabiyau: I am, but for questions you should ask in ubuntu+1
[05:00] <yurimxpxman> frenzy: You could download it again :)
[05:00] <balzac> -x
[05:00] <pisedoffcracker1> so cafuego...i could make a 2tb virtual drive and it would work?
[05:00] <gavintlgold> hey guys, does anyone here use the liNsta theme for gtk2? If so, do you have any problems with firefox not looking like the theme? any way to fix it?
[05:00] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: thats called dual booting. While I need to go, Ubuntu tries to make it as easy as possible on you
[05:00] <pagan0ne> can someone help me with a bit of a problem reguarding herd 5, Vista, and NTFS? for some reason i cant mount my ntfs partition under herd 5, is there sompthing im missing
[05:00] <yurimxpxman> I'm gonna reboot and test single user mode now. BRB =)
[05:01] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: The first thing I'd recommend you do (if you're installing this on the same HD as windows) is to back up important data, and defragment your HD
[05:01] <frenzy> yurimxpxman, its about 300gb of movies animes series and music... no way in hell i would dl it again... way 2 lazy... i just need to burn it all on dvds.. but its gona take me a while
[05:01] <sum0> sree: using open or closed source driver?
[05:01] <Squee> Does anyone have an intel webcam working in linux?
[05:01] <pagan0ne> Squee: i do
[05:01] <BeastlyKings> I did both of those things already
[05:01] <cafuego_> pisedoffcracker1: If the host filesystem supports 2TB files and the virtualised OS supports 2TB filesystems and the hypervisor supports 2TB virtual filesystems, i don't see why not.
[05:01] <balzac> neozen, jk
[05:01] <Vivix729> Does anyone know how do you specify port # when connecting to a server on XChat?
[05:02] <sree> sum0: my xorg.conf says - Driver          "radeon"
[05:02] <sum0> sree: thas open source
[05:02] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Good! From then on out, Ubuntu makes it as easy as possible. Do you have a sufficient ammount of free space? eg: 10 gigabytes?
[05:02] <Squee> pagan0ne: did you have to do anything special to make it work?
[05:02] <sree> oh ok
[05:02] <pagan0ne> Squee: as far as i know it just worked, i dont even know what i did, its even connected through a un-powerd usb hub...
[05:03] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: If you do, burn the ISO file you downloaded to a CD, place it in the drive, and reboot the computer. The CD should boot, and Ubuntu will come up.
[05:03] <BeastlyKings> rukuartic: Mmmm... not exactly more like 4.5Gb
[05:03] <pagan0ne> Squee: first time its ever worked under linux for me, im testing Herd 5
[05:03] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: You can play around with it if you want, but the real work comes when you click "Install"
[05:03] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I have typed the IP 192.168.2.1 on both of my computers and they are both spewing out the same info. Than I went on the ipchicken.com and got the exact same info for both my mac and linux.  The only differance was the Remote Port.
[05:03] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: 4.5 Gb is a little tight, but you should be able to fit it fine.
[05:03] <Squee> pagan0ne: I'm testing that on my laptop, perhaps i'll try the camera on there, thanks!
[05:03] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Yup. I'm going to bet that you have two routers installed on your system
[05:04] <BeastlyKings> rukuartic: its mostly to test it out for awhile
[05:04] <pagan0ne> Squee: you have any expirence trying to mount a NTFS partition from Vista under Ubuntu?
[05:04] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I only have a hub
[05:04] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Ah. If you just want to test it you can run it off of a "LiveCD"... it will be slow though.
[05:04] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Are you SURE you don't have two? You said you had a linksys.
[05:05] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I got linksys  5 port hub, and the modem that's all
[05:05] <Squee> pagan0ne: actually i've been trying that exact same situation on my laptop, I can read it but i cannot write to it
[05:05] <Squee> even with ntfs3g
[05:05] <sum0> sree:  that's going to involve some pretty hefty xorg.conf changes; are you fairly proficient?
[05:05] <rukuartic> Bohica_: But you said when you type "http://192.168.2.1" it brings up "Dell"
[05:05] <Noah0504> Does anyone know a list of good console applications?
[05:06] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Dell is not linksys.
[05:06] <rukuartic> Noah0504: Yes!
[05:06] <yurimxpxman> eck: Single user mode displayed a lot more verbose, and many things seemed to work, but it still quit with the devfs error.
[05:06] <Bagualas> rukuartic: i came to say ty, it worked :D
[05:06] <rukuartic> Noah0504: moc, screen, w3m, lynx, irssi...
[05:06] <sree> sum0: ready for it. i'll try
[05:06] <rukuartic> Bagualas: Great! I'm happy :D
[05:06] <balzac> i was banned in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:06] <Bohica_> not Dell but Bell with a 'B'
[05:06] <Noah0504> rukuartic: Using Irssi now. :)
[05:06] <BeastlyKings> rukuaric: I was thinking of doing it this way for awhile before I replace windoze for good
[05:06] <pagan0ne> Squee: i cant even read, and im at a loss, i dont care about write so much as i do read access
[05:06] <rukuartic> Noah0504: ssh, mpg123
[05:06] <rukuartic> balzac: Not surprised.
 koala^: You can get picasa for linux
 rukuartic: More or less, there's a gzip -9 step too.
 koala: GSpot is great
[05:06] <koala^> oups
[05:06] <balzac> all i did was invite a guy to cyber
[05:06] <koala^> sorry
[05:06] <rukuartic> Noah0504: Urm... naim
[05:06] <yurimxpxman> F-Spot =P
[05:06] <cafuego_> koala^: Please unplug your mouse.
[05:06] <pagan0ne> Squee: think it would be possible to adapt captive ntfs drivers to use vistas ntfs drivers?
[05:07] <balzac> i thought it would be ok in off-topic
[05:07] <koala^> lol
[05:07] <sum0> sree: which version are you running (dapper, edgy?)
[05:07] <yurimxpxman> eck: still there?
[05:07] <sree> edgy
[05:07] <rukuartic> Noah0504: ... ...urm, trying to think. nano!
[05:07] <Noah0504> rukuartic: I just installed Linux on an older computer, and I just plan to do everything from the cosole.  I'm not going to take the time to install a desktop environment.
[05:07] <koala^> bye guys, and thanks
[05:07] <Bohica_> rukuartic - not Dell but Bell with a 'B', that who my ISP is, that is their modem
[05:07] <rukuartic> Noah0504: Ah, make sure you install openssh-server!
[05:07] <balzac> it didn't feel like "ubuntu" to me. He could have politely declined
[05:07] <rukuartic> balzac: Wanna get banned from here too?
[05:07] <balzac> no
[05:07] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Oh, sorry!
[05:07] <Noah0504> rukuartic: Thanks for many of your suggestions.
[05:08] <rukuartic> Noah0504: No problem :P
[05:08] <razali2k5> i am using a synaptics touchpad. my drivers work great and i use qsynaptics to configure it. everything works well but when i restart, my tapping is enabled as soon as i start my computer. if i start qsynaptics and just press apply without making any changes it disables the tapping. i want tapping off completely. what should i do?
[05:08] <bronze_0_1> what?
[05:08] <balzac> well, that depends, actually
[05:08] <balzac> is there an ubuntu social contract?
[05:08] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Do you see "applications and gaming"?
[05:09] <knapp> Anyone familiar with using rdesktop to run windows applications?
[05:09] <balzac> do i have any rights?
[05:09] <Squee> pagan0ne: I dont know how much they changed the driver, but possibly
[05:09] <Madpilot> ubotu, coc | balzac
[05:09] <ubotu> balzac: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:09] <knapp> I'm trying to get rdesktop to communicate with vmware XP
[05:09] <balzac> interesting, thanks
[05:09] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I've seen those files somewhere, but where exaccly no idea
[05:10] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Ok, click "Applications and gaming" link on http://192.168.2.1/ and fill in this
[05:10] <rukuartic> apache2 80 to 80 both 192.168.2.(your computer's ip) CheckBox
[05:10] <Squee> pagan0ne: What might be a good temporary (but ugly) solution is that if you were to upgrade from xp to vista, maybe the filesystem wouldn't be altered?
[05:11] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Type "ifconfig" in the terminal to see what your local ip is... it should be 192.168.2.100 or something like that.
[05:11] <sum0> sree: the best I can do you is a non-hotswappable solution..you'll have to do a cold boot while connected to activate it
[05:11] <rukuartic> Bohica_: You might want to make a second entry, except with "10000 to 10000"
[05:11] <lkthomas> guys, does scp support multithread transfer ?
[05:11] <rukuartic> lkthomas: "man scp"?
[05:12] <razali2k5> Does anyone have a solution to my synaptics touchpad tapping being enabled when i start my computer even though it is disabled in qsynaptics?
[05:12] <sree> sum0: u mean I'll have to connect my svideo to my TV and then reboot my laptop ?
[05:12] <rukuartic> razali2k5: I'm not sure how qsynaptics works, but if it changes once you run qsynaptics... try adding it to start at your session start.
[05:12] <lkthomas> rukuartic, man didn't shows anything
[05:12] <sum0> sree: ya for the open-ati solution
[05:12] <greig_> hi, ive just installed ubuntu 5.10 and wondered if its possible to view the files on the windows partioned hdd's?
[05:12] <rukuartic> sum0: what about restarting x? ctrl+alt+backspace?
[05:13] <rukuartic> !samba > greig_
[05:13] <sree> sum0 : ok
[05:13] <pagan0ne> Squee: well i upgraded orignally, then vista hosed itself, so i reformatted, and now its a fresh vista install
[05:13] <rukuartic> greig_: sorry, if they're actually in the physical computer
[05:13] <rukuartic> !mount > greig_
[05:13] <razali2k5> but even if it runs at startup. i would have to press apply changes. either way i ahve to go through qsynaptics. i was wondering if there was any other way. because it doesnt seem anyone else is having this problem. i searched around forums and as soon as people disable their tapping through qsynaptics they dont have any rpoblems
[05:13] <Bohica_> rukuartic - you are way ahead of me.  got lost after applications and gaming.  my machine ip is 192.168.2.11, what's next?
[05:14] <whta> does anyone know of a way that i can get the media buttons on my keyboard to work? i can get all the internet buttons to work, but the play/stop/forward/back don't
[05:14] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Ok... go to http://192.168.2.1/, click "Applications and Gaming"
[05:14] <rukuartic> Fill in these things to the boxes on the webpage
[05:14] <Bohica_> rukuartic - no go, there is no link like that anywhere
[05:14] <greig_> rukuartic : i have 3 partions on 1 hdd, 2 c: d: for windows and the 3 this. what should i go for u view the windows part would u advise?
[05:14] <rukuartic> Bohica_: hurm.
[05:15] <rukuartic> greig_: There should be a gui somewhere under "Administration"
[05:15] <BeastlyKings> rukuaric: I was thinking of installing it and running it for awhile before I replace windoze for good, anything else I should know about it before I begin
[05:15] <drees> hi roomies
[05:16] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I can't even go to http://127.0.0.1/
[05:16] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: There are a few things that are just hard to do with Linux, which is why we have asuch a big support channel.
[05:16] <hateyla> can i use beryl themes in Ubuntu?
[05:16] <sum0> sree: wow, this is not the best solution.  are you morally opposed to using the ati proprietary drivers for tv-out support?
[05:16] <Bohica_> AHHHHHHHHHHH
[05:16] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Wireless might be a little bit of work to get working, as well as printing and scanning.
[05:17] <BeastlyKings> I figured that much
[05:17] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Like I said, we try to make it as easy as possible here... Dual booting is definately a good option to go on as a trial period.
[05:17] <Bohica_> rukuartic - is there a way to use ubuntu as a Firewall, server and let other computers connect to internet through it?
[05:17] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Yes, but you'll need two ethernet cards to do that and a whole lot of knowhow.
[05:17] <sree> sum0: i'm would prefer sticking to oss. However the only reason for not using the prop ati driver is coz of beryl
[05:17] <razali2k5> if you have a webcam its hard to configure. if you use logitech you might be lucky to have v4l working. but like on my laptop the webcam does not work yet.
[05:17] <james296> how can I run games under Wine, and have them fullscreen without showing the top and bottom bars in Ubuntu?
[05:17] <BeastlyKings> rukuartic: What I'm saying is that I nhave tried to daul boot but could not figure it out
[05:18] <DLB|Maximus> can someone tell me how to drop to console from desktop?
[05:18] <r3factored> Hi all. Ive managed to get bluetooth working with my jabra headset. Now im trying to get it to show up as an alsa-device. Anyone have a clue how to do this? ive installed all the btso stuff.
[05:18] <Bohica_> rukuartic - well I got the 2 Ethernet cards, but I don't have the know how yet.  any ideas/suggestions?
[05:18] <rukuartic> DLB|Maximus: Ctrl+alt+f1 through f6 gets to console
[05:18] <rukuartic> DLB|Maximus: Ctrl+alt+f7 brings you back to gui
[05:18] <greig_> rukuartic : yes ure right, i can view it through the disk manager, is there anyway i can just double click an icon on the desktop to view the files, currently it says they i do not have permision to do that
[05:18] <drees> why Evolution and Thunderbird gives diferend HTML result?
[05:18] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Yup... look up "linux router ubuntu" or something on google
[05:18] <hateyla> can someone plz tell me .. can i use beryl themes in Ubuntu ?
[05:19] <r3factored> hateyla: only if you have it installed with gnome or kde
[05:19] <rukuartic> greig_: Ack, I'm not sure. I don't do that often. Try asking a few people here for help with "mounting" a disk
[05:19] <greig_> rukuartic ok thank you
[05:19] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Folks here should help you out.
[05:19] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: If you've ever used a macintosh you should feel quite at home.
[05:19] <r3factored> so no takers on the bluetooth stuff eh?
[05:20] <rukuartic> r3factored: eh, try the forums.
[05:20] <sum0> sree: okay, most of the ati open source driver support helper programs are no longer supported, but you can lookup atitvout (litttle buggy), or GATOS..mostly I would look for some sort of xinerama support for xorg, but I'm assuming you want desktop cloning.
[05:20] <rukuartic> r3factored: Chances are someone else ahs had your problem.
[05:20] <hateyla> r3factored,  ya i m using gnome.
[05:20] <r3factored> rukuartic: done that but they all give either outdated or conflicting info
[05:20] <BeastlyKings> rukaurtic: never been in mac sorry
[05:20] <r3factored> hateyla: apt-get install beryl beryl-manager
[05:20] <BeastlyKings> I don't want to fry my windows partion
[05:21] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Its not too different than Windows on the surface... It still has familiar apps like Firefox, gAIM, OpenOffice, Thunderbird etc.
[05:21] <sree> sum0: what I am really looking for is to be able to press a key and my desktop is cloned on my TV
[05:21] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Try buying a second hard drive. They're not too expensive.
[05:21] <r3factored> hateyla: you need to add the beryl repo to /etc/apt/sources.list first
[05:21] <Bohica_> rukuartic - I guess I can't do everything in one night.  Lots to rean and learn.  Thanks for all your help.
[05:21] <rukuartic> Bohica_: No problem man :)
[05:21] <rukuartic> Bohica_: Its a fun thing to do... you'll get help from here.
[05:21] <BeastlyKings> rukaurtic: thank you for help but please understand that I'm trying to figure out how to daul boot, its all greek to me
[05:22] <hateyla> r3factored,  okie.
[05:22] <rickyfingers> sree: scan converter might save you a lot of time that's hw solution though
[05:22] <hateyla> thanks
[05:22] <inku> why my beryl doesnt have the snow plugin?
[05:22] <r3factored> np
[05:22] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Don't worry. You have to start somewhere!
[05:22] <sree> sum0: whats that ?
[05:22] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Hold on for a moment...
[05:22] <sum0> sree: you'll have to go proprietary for that as far as I know
[05:22] <BeastlyKings> K thanks
[05:22] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Here's a video on it http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[05:23] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Write down "Automatix", that'll help get you started quickly
[05:23] <BeastlyKings> sweet thanks
[05:23] <BeastlyKings> automatix?
[05:23] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Ack, thats a REALLY outdated video
[05:23] <r3factored> automatix2
[05:23] <r3factored> awesome tool
[05:23] <erichj> !automatix
[05:23] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:23] <erichj> don't suggest it please
[05:24] <r3factored> ha! it worked great for me (in 32bit ubuntu not in 64bit)
[05:24] <sum0> sree: lookup the fglrx driver for ubuntu
[05:24] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Yes, its not "officially" supported, but it'll help you get capability fast. ubotu is right though.
[05:24] <r3factored> However i can see how it could cause problems
[05:24] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot try this link
[05:24] <sree> sum0: think this is useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361124&highlight=svideo ?
[05:24] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: and the forums http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:25] <BeastlyKings> I was on the forums, didn't find what I needed
[05:25] <BeastlyKings> I look some more
[05:25] <BeastlyKings> thanks all
[05:25] <sum0> sree: those are intel cards, ati will be a bit different
[05:26] <sree> ok
[05:26] <sum0> sree: here is a better start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:26] <ceaser> hey, does anybody know of a good, simple, runbox app?
[05:26] <rukuartic> BeastlyKings: Good luck with Linux!
[05:26] <rukuartic> And with that folks, I need to hit the sack. I have a headache.
[05:26] <BeastlyKings> yep thanks
[05:26] <rukuartic> Hope you all get your problems solved. G'nite!
[05:27] <kaiden> Howdy, say someone was deleting partitions and deleted a linux partition (intentionally) and that partition was the one grub listed first, is there any easy way from a live cd to restore the mbr or edit the current mbr and remove some options from it? or possible an fdisk /mbr like command i can use to be able to at least boot into windows?
[05:28] <kaiden> it used to be a dual boot drive with windows and ubuntu on seperate partitions, now it's just a windows drive and i'm putting ubuntu on it's own system
[05:29] <r3factored> anyone here familiar with btsco?
[05:29] <for1> Hey folks
[05:29] <for1> anyone can help me?
[05:29] <inku> i need to know why my beryl doesnt have the snow plugin
[05:29] <erichj> for1: whats your issue?
[05:30] <cafuego_> inku: #ubunut-effects
[05:30] <inku> is not there
[05:31] <inku> i have 0.2.0
[05:31] <gn0me> Anyone been unable to get this error to not go away: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." even after running that command it tells you to?
[05:31] <inku> wich version is the one that comes with it+
[05:32] <kaiden> inku, he's telling you to go to the ubuntu-effects channel and ask them
[05:32] <erichj> gn0me: kill the process and try again
[05:32] <erichj> kill -9 <process id>
[05:32] <inku> sorry im new in here i dint know
[05:32] <gn0me> No process of dpkg is running
[05:33] <gn0me> or apt-get
[05:33] <for1> erichj: I've 2 problems: 1. I installed the last version of Ubuntu in my Apple MacBook by Parallels Desktop for Mac emulation software, and I wanna use the U.S. International keyboard layout. You know where can I find that?
[05:33] <for1> 2. I wanna use 1280x800 resolution, and Ubuntu not allow resolutions up to 1024x768. How can I fix that?
[05:33] <for1> (excuse my english)
[05:33] <erichj> ps aux and check
[05:33] <gn0me> I did.
[05:33] <erichj> weird
[05:34] <erichj> for1: system->prefs->keyboard
[05:34] <erichj> layout tabe
[05:34] <erichj> tab
[05:34] <for1> ok
[05:34] <inku> there is nobody overthere
[05:34] <erichj> resolution: you need to edit xorg.conf and add the entry
[05:34] <arrow> I need help making a .mkv file play
[05:35] <erichj> download matroska codec for mkv
[05:35] <arrow> erichj: do you know where i can get that at?
[05:35] <brownbro> a bit of a n00b here, looking for help with getting my internet connection working. for some reason under both network and wireless, it will only connect to the ubunto.com sites, and times out for anything else.
[05:35] <erichj> sorry i don't use matroska so i wouldn't have a clue
[05:36] <arrow> erichj: thx anyways
[05:36] <erichj> for1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[05:36] <erichj> will walk you through changing the xorg config for higher res
[05:36] <for1> erichj:  thanks man :)
[05:36] <erichj> not a problem
[05:39] <babyju> anyone have an easy way to change all options in the .config from module to be installed in the kernel?
[05:39] <ceaser> babyju: do make menuconfig in your kernel source root
[05:40] <eshear> is there some way to say "run the start scripts for run level 3 again"?
[05:40] <ceaser> init 3 should do that
[05:40] <babyju> ceaser, that way I have to go through each menu...I want to easjly change all options.
[05:40] <eshear> ah, cool
[05:40] <eshear> thanks ceaser!
[05:40] <ceaser> babyju: ohh, I see; do you want to just disable them all?
[05:40] <mattie10> on a live disc, is there a program in which I can browse? like w3m?
[05:40] <ceaser> babyju: or enable them all or what?
[05:41] <mattie10> for CLI, I meant
[05:41] <babyju> no I want to enable them
[05:41] <crdlb> mattie10, on the ubuntu live cd, or in general?
[05:41] <ceaser> babyju: hmm, thats actually a good question, let me see
[05:41] <matrix> hi, my laptop has build in infrared. i have no idea if ubuntu recognized it. how can i verify that?
[05:42] <mattie10> crdlb, a live distro based based on ubuntu, actually
[05:42] <crdlb> mattie10, they may have included: links, links2, elinks, lynx, or w3m
[05:42] <ubuntuEdgy> hi dose any one have this problem of not being able to see a display after a system suspend ?
[05:42] <crdlb> those are all I can think of
[05:43] <ceaser> babyju: actually, i'm not really sure of a good way to mass edit all modules on or off
[05:43] <ubuntuEdgy> or better known as "stand by"
[05:43] <ardchoille> crdlb: That's actually a good listing
[05:43] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: which release & vid card/driver?
[05:43] <babyju> ceaser, I found a way...I can change all options from "m" to "y" in emacs
[05:43] <ceaser> babyju: make config might let you set a default response, but that will probably be too much
[05:43] <mattie10> crdlb, ouch, none of those.. I guess I'll try dl'ing one
[05:43] <ubuntuEdgy> Frogzoo: default ati drivers
[05:44] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: which release & vid card/driver?
[05:44] <mattie10> uhm, on that -- on a live disc, I can do such a thing, right? :x I mean, dl a tarbal, complie..install?
[05:44] <ubuntuEdgy> Frogzoo:the ones thank come with ubuntu
[05:44] <ubuntuEdgy> that*
[05:44] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: dapper or edgy?
[05:44] <ubuntuEdgy> look at me name !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:44] <crdlb> haha
[05:44] <ubuntuEdgy> Edgy
[05:44] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: which vid card?
[05:44] <mattie10> What about it?
[05:45] <ubuntuEdgy> radeon 9550
[05:45] <ceaser> babyju: yeah, any sort of solution to that problem would require an editing of the .config file, but you could probably speed that up alot by using something like sed
[05:45] <ubuntuEdgy> its seen as a 9600
[05:45] <ubuntuEdgy> some thing like that
[05:45] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: my personal recommendation is you install the fglrx proprietary driver
[05:45] <ardchoille> mattie10: You'd have to apt-get install build-essential and I'm not sure if that's going to work.
[05:45] <ubuntuEdgy>  Frogzoo:i had the same issue with those
[05:45] <mattie10> I don't want to apt-get, I wish to compile it myself (just for kicks)
[05:46] <crdlb> mattie10, then you'll need to apt-get a lot of stuff first
[05:46] <arrenlex> I am sick of homework.
[05:46] <arrenlex> Entertain me.
[05:46] <arrenlex> You are my monkeys.
[05:46] <ardchoille> mattie10: You can't compile without a compiler.. you need to apt-get build-essential, and use that to compile your apps
[05:46] <SubMOA> HELLO!
[05:46] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: I run edgy ati9700 with fglrx driver & suspend works
[05:46] <mattie10> lol, alright. apt-get it is.
[05:47] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: however various nonsuspendable modules/drivers can stop suspend working properly
[05:47] <ardchoille> mattie10: You realise that anything your download and install with the live cd will disappear when you reboot, right?
[05:47] <mattie10> so a live disc doesn't offer compiling utilites as-is, eh
[05:47] <mattie10> ardchoille, oh yeah.
[05:47] <zarul> Ubuntuedgy, edgy  sux, dapper, hoary and breezy rule~!
[05:47] <arrenlex> mattie10: I believe build-essential is on that CD... you need only apt-get it.
[05:47] <zarul> but not edgy!
[05:47] <ubuntuEdgy>  Frogzoo:if that was the case then it wouldn't even go to suspend to begin with right ?
[05:47] <Frogzoo> zarul: edgy works fine for me & many people
[05:48] <operator> random question, looking to get into programming eventually want to learn c++. thinking of perl,python or php as a language to learn first. what do you suggest? based on difficuly to learn, and wont teach bad habbits when trying to get into c++.
[05:48] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: not necessarily
[05:48] <mattie10> oh I know, I'll apt-get some of the browsing utilies he mentioned.. and compile others myself
[05:48] <ceaser> operator: languages like perl, and python are much different than C++
[05:48] <ardchoille> mattie10: How much ram you got?
[05:49] <ceaser> operator: you'll learn programming concepts with them, but you will have to learn different things when moving to c/c++
[05:49] <brownbro> having problems trying to connect to the internet with new install of ubunto. appears to connect fine via wireless to the router, but cant access anything other than ubunto.com via firefox.
[05:49] <ubuntuEdgy> for Christs sake, what could be wrong
[05:49] <mattie10> ardchoille, 128 mb :(, junk pc which I got merely to start playing with linux
[05:49] <operator> ceaser: yea i know, what about php any thoughts towards it?
[05:49] <ardchoille> mattie10: everything you install on a livecd will decrease your ram and slow down the system.
[05:49] <mattie10> ardchoille, alright - so I probably shouldn't apt-get install build-essential then
[05:49] <ubuntuEdgy> i will try google again
[05:49] <ardchoille> because it's all being held in ram
[05:49] <ceaser> operator: I don't really like php personally, because it is sort of a mishmash of java style object oriented design and perl/etc. dynamic typing
[05:50] <arrenlex> mattie10: I suggest you get yourself a warm coat when compiling anything on that, so the next ice age doesn't catch you unawares.
[05:50] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: when did you try fglrx?
[05:50] <operator> ceaser:hmm
[05:50] <ceaser> operator: at least php5 is, php4 is more of a mishmash of C procedural design, and a dynamic language
[05:50] <mneptok> operator: learn Python and its GTK and Wx bindings. you might not care about C++.
[05:50] <cafuego_> arrenlex: The cpu will stay nice and hot, so he should be right.
[05:50] <ceaser> operator: I'd personally suggest learning java first if you are thinking of moving towards c++
[05:50] <mattie10> ardchoille, I suppose I"ll just install this thing on it then
[05:50] <Frogzoo> ubuntuEdgy: I think you're wasting your time on the stock ati
[05:50] <ceaser> operator: but if you want to learn programming in general, I'd suggest something like python or ruby
[05:50] <Jaguar> operator: Personally I love php5, especially for sessions, a must for any type of persistent user data :)
[05:50] <ceaser> operator: perl syntax is very weird, so I'd learn that as a second language
[05:50] <mattie10> install linux on this junk pc, I mean. wish me luck!
[05:51] <adjioev> operator, what are you going to program? web or apps?
[05:51] <bullgard4> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8415/ shows that Ubuntu compiled two Ethernet modules in my kernel. I am surprised because in Debian Etch they could not co-exist on my computer. Could this fact be the cause that Ubuntu does not bring up the Ethernet after Suspend-to-Ram?
[05:51] <operator> ceaser:hmm ok, im thinking maybe php, cause i need to build myself a better website and move away from joomla ;).
[05:51] <ardchoille> mattie10: That sounds like a better idea, but I think you need 192mb ram for the installer to work
[05:51] <operator> adjioev: well both really
[05:52] <ceaser> operator: yeah, I'd suggest php then, especially if you want to learn dynamic web development
[05:52] <adjioev> operator, what about java and jsp. Java for apps jsp for web?
[05:52] <ceaser> operator: programming in general, I'd probably suggest a different language
[05:52] <ardchoille> mattie10: if you're going to install to the hard drive, I would recommend you download the alternate iso, it uses a text based installer and takes up less ram
[05:52] <adjioev> operator, c++ can be a pain
[05:52] <ceaser> adjioev: java is a VERY complicated language to learn for web development
[05:52] <adjioev> ceaser, not really. Its much better then c++.
[05:53] <ceaser> adjioev: for web development, yes
[05:53] <cafuego_> Java is easy, but soooooo verbose.
[05:53] <adjioev> ceaser, well compare to php yes, maybe...
[05:53] <Jaguar> adjioev: C++ is a very valuable language to be proficient in if you plan on going into programming.
[05:53] <ceaser> adjioev: you need a firm grasp on object oriented design to write good java, and for someone who is just starting web development, I'd suggest somethingl ike php
[05:53] <ardchoille> Am I right about that? 192mb for the desktop cd installer and less for the alternate iso installer?
[05:54] <arrenlex> You can't do anything with java except applets. No one understands what to do with a .class file. The extra complexity, and the slowness the VM incurs, pretty much kills the language.
[05:54] <adjioev> Jaguar, well i'm programmer :)
[05:54] <mattie10> ardchoille, I was suggested to install nubuntu because of having a low spec machine. I am on it right now in fact - would you say this'd be a good choice?
[05:54] <Jaguar> adjioev: As am I :)
[05:54] <cafuego_> ceaser: I'd probably suggest python. Simple, OO, and Ubuntu comes with a python book preinstalled.
[05:54] <bulmer> you want to learn dynamic web stuff..try xml and cocoon2 and lets see how quick your hair turn to white
[05:54] <ceaser> arrenlex: I don't want to get into a programming language holy war, but that is not true at all
[05:54] <mkquist> whats nubuntu?
[05:54] <ardchoille> !nubuntu
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <mattie10> and don't worry about things like "What I'm gonna use the pc for" -- merely for a learning experience
[05:54] <arrenlex> ardchoille: Do you mean xubuntu?
[05:54] <adjioev> ceaser, php is very hackish language from my point of view.
[05:54] <operator> lol ive started a war
[05:54] <ceaser> cafuego_: I'd second that recommendation :)
[05:55] <Jaguar> For web dev though, you could go your web dev life without C++ for the most part :)
[05:55] <someone1> i got a quick and probably easy to answer question: how do i get my wireless to work :(!
[05:55] <ardchoille> arrenlex: he said nubuntu
[05:55] <ardchoille> mattie10: Well, you'll know soon enough
[05:55] <someone1> i tried reading the documentation, but i get nowhere
[05:55] <arrenlex> ardchoille: Yeah, but I've never heard of it and neither has ubotu, I was wondering it it was a typo.
[05:55] <brownbro> question: anywhere i can get help at all about connecting to the net other than here or the documentation?
[05:55] <Jaguar> Yeah, we're all a little offtopic, sorry about that.
[05:55] <ardchoille> arrenlex: same here
[05:55] <mattie10> ardchoille, know soon enough what?
[05:55] <ceaser> adjioev: it is, but for web development, it is very straightforward and quick to learn, and you can move onto larger programming concepts. I wouldn't recommend it for a general purpose language though.
[05:55] <someone1> i can't launch administration >> Network, it keeps telling me i don't have permission, why is this?
[05:55] <bulmer> brownbro: get your paypal account ready and stocked..i'll answer some questions :)
[05:55] <ardchoille> mattie10: if you try to install it and it doesnt work
[05:56] <ceaser> OK all thats need to be said about this topic has been said I think :)
[05:56] <operator> i think so, thanks guys
[05:56] <mkquist> question for youz, ive got ubuntu running on a little 3 gig drive, how can i get ubuntu to install proggies and what not to another drive to keep from filing it up?
[05:56] <inuyasha> hi
[05:56] <ceaser> anytime
[05:56] <ardchoille> someone1: gksu network-admin
[05:56] <LadyNikon> inuyasha: good show.
[05:56] <mattie10> ardchoille, well I remember that the iso was ~200, fluxbox is its default wm. I think it will, what would you be your thoughts?
[05:56] <cafuego_> nUbuntu looks to be yet another repackage
[05:56] <inuyasha> lol
[05:56] <bulmer> mkquist: move the /home to another drive if you wish
[05:56] <someone1> and that'll solve all my problems?
[05:56] <neozen> mkquist: stick home and usr to another drive
[05:57] <inuyasha> i hate this freespire
[05:57] <ardchoille> mattie10: Ah, fluxbox, then you shouldn't have any troubles. fluxbox is a nice, light weight window manager.
[05:57] <ardchoille> someone1: I have no idea. but that's the way you launch it with root privs
[05:57] <elijah> hi
[05:57] <mattie10> ardchoille, yep. I actually preferred it from the very first moment.. I don't know why. I prefer it aesthetically too
[05:58] <someone1> i'll give it a try.... during the install it asked me all the questions and picked up my card fine, but now iwconfig doesn't even list my card
[05:58] <cafuego_> mattie10: After install, check out http://lxp.sourceforge.net/  :-)
[05:58] <lkthomas> guys, how could I kill defunct process ?
[05:58] <neozen> kill
[05:58] <LadyNikon> lkthomas: pa aux >> kill -9 <insert process>
[05:58] <ceaser> Hey, is it an edgy thing that when you type in a program name that you don't have installed, it tells you what package to install?
[05:58] <elijah> is there a way that i can set my user name and password for the windows domain so that i dont have to supply them everytime?
[05:58] <erichj> kill -9 <process id>
[05:58] <arrenlex> cafuego_: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhHHHH 0_________________0
[05:58] <lkthomas> defunct process can't be kill like that
[05:58] <lkthomas> it's not that simple
[05:59] <lkthomas> I try to kill it, wouldn't work
[05:59] <erichj> ceaser: sudo apt-get install <app>
[05:59] <cafuego_> arrenlex: You can get pills for that, you know?
[05:59] <neozen> lkthomas: who owns this process
[05:59] <lkthomas> neozen, root
[05:59] <ceaser> elijah: Yes, create a file that contains the lines 'username=user' and ' password=pass' without the pass, then do -o credentials=/path/to/file when mounting your remote stuff
[05:59] <ardchoille> cafuego_: hahaha
[05:59] <lkthomas> how could I know what's the parent process PID ?
[05:59] <bulmer> zombies cant be easily cleared off the process table
[05:59] <arrenlex> cafuego_: For heart attacks?
[05:59] <ceaser> elijah: make sure the file is not world readable though!
[05:59] <neozen> lkthomas: well... when a process is owned by root
[05:59] <cafuego_> arrenlex: yup
[05:59] <neozen> lkthomas: you have to be root to kill it
[06:00] <neozen> lkthomas: its called security
[06:00] <elijah> i'll try that thanks
[06:00] <ceaser> erichj: i know, but in edgy, when I type in an appname that doesn't exist, it tells me what package it belongs to immediately, its amazing
[06:00] <brownbro> can anyone help me with an internet connection problem. have read all documentation on the subject that the site has.
[06:00] <lkthomas> neozen, I am using root
[06:00] <neozen> lkthomas: /me blinks
[06:00] <erichj> yes...it truly is
[06:00] <mattie10> ardchoille, alright - I'm gonna start installing. Would you say that I should restart the computer before I do though? (so it may free up some ram?) or no need for that?
[06:00] <neozen> lkthomas: the hell kind of process you running?
[06:00] <bulmer> brownbro what is the connectivity problem of yours?
[06:00] <neozen> lol
[06:01] <ardchoille> mattie10: You have to reboot to fire up the livecd, right? ;)
[06:01] <mEck0> which packages do I need for developing gnome gui's in Glade? I have the gnome tab in Glade, but can't se everything that's in the Glade manual, i.e. I can't build a gnome about dialog
[06:01] <elijah> ceaser
[06:01] <lkthomas> neozen, what ?!
[06:01] <ubuntuEdgy> can any one help me with this suspend issue
[06:01] <ubuntuEdgy> my display dose not come back on
[06:01] <neozen> lkthomas: what process is this?
[06:01] <elijah> is it just a text file taht i should create/
[06:01] <elijah> ?
[06:01] <brownbro> bulmer: im trying to connect via wireless. it appears to connect to the router fine, and is assigned an IP. problem is, i cant actually access the net. for some reason all i can browse is ubunto.com
[06:01] <ceaser> elijah: yeah
[06:01] <lkthomas> neozen, do you know how could I display parent process PID on ps aux ?
[06:01] <neozen> ubuntuEdgy: um..... suspend goes wonked for alot of us
[06:01] <mattie10> ardchoille, but..but.. I'm using the livecd right now (I'm chatting right here on a win laptop.. but I've the junk desktop on which the live disc is running)
[06:01] <neozen> lkthomas: no
[06:01] <ceaser> elijah: check out: man smbmount
[06:01] <neozen> lkthomas: I don't
[06:01] <ceaser> elijah: and look for the section on credentials
[06:02] <lkthomas> neozen, so you can't resolve my problem
[06:02] <ubuntuEdgy> even hibernate dose not work
[06:02] <elijah> ok, please guide me ha, ya know, im a noob :)
[06:02] <neozen> lkthomas: not without more information
[06:02] <ardchoille> mattie10: You're using the nubuntu livecd right now?
[06:02] <mattie10> ardchoille, yes
[06:02] <bulmer> brownbro: can you try to ping sites like yahoo or google?
[06:02] <lkthomas> neozen, I am telling you that  the problem is check_heartbeat
[06:02] <fonz_> anyone here on ppc?
[06:02] <brownbro> bulmer: yup, they all come back ok
[06:02] <ceaser> elijah: no problem; all you need to do is create a textfile with two lines, one being username = user, the other being password = pass
[06:02] <ardchoille> mattie10: Well, if it will install successfully, go for it.
[06:02] <mattie10> ardchoille, but I exitted X few minutes ago, it was getting slow. so I'm on complete cli
[06:03] <ceaser> elijah: then supply the option -o credentials=/path/to/file when mounting the remote drive
[06:03] <mattie10> oh hell with, I'll just restart just to be safe :)
[06:03] <bulmer> brownbro: can you try wget  ? and say download a file?
[06:03] <ardchoille> lol
[06:03] <neozen> (jeebus this room moves fast)
[06:03] <elijah> ok ceaser i'll try. thanks
[06:03] <neozen> lol
[06:03] <brownbro> bulmer: i havent tried wget, but i did try to get the wifi radar. it looked to download the files, but then mentioned that something about my hardware wasnt supported.
[06:04] <ceaser> elijah: np
[06:04] <brownbro> bulmer: also, its got me the list of updates i need to download, so im assuming its connecting in that respect
[06:04] <lkthomas> neozen, you don't even know what the hack is it
[06:04] <ed1t> whats a good sources.list? with backports and stuff
[06:04] <bulmer> brownbro: go ahead and try wget or update something via synaptic
[06:04] <mattie10> aha.. this thing again. upon "shutdown -h now" -- I got the message "The system is going down for halt NOW!" .. but nothing happens after that. It isn't shut off. Is this a new thing on linux? Will I always have to turn it off physically by pressing the button on my cpu, or what?
[06:04] <ardchoille> !easysource | ed1t
[06:04] <mkquist> bulmer and neozen -usr or home to another drive?
[06:04] <ubotu> ed1t: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:04] <SubMOA> mattie10, i get the same problem
[06:04] <bulmer> brownbro: right! if synaptic downloads stuff you're connected and okay
[06:05] <ed1t> i tried that i got an error
[06:05] <ed1t> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[06:05] <Frogzoo> mattie10: acpi doesn't like your hardware, for some reason
[06:05] <bulmer> mkquist yes if you wish
[06:05] <brownbro> bulmer: hmmm thats what i thought. how come i cant actually 'connect' then? it only connects to things related to ubunto
[06:05] <ubuntuEdgy> hi i need to know if the mythfrontend has to be running inorder for tv shows to be recorded ?
[06:05] <neozen> mkquist: yep
[06:05] <ed1t> ardchoille, W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[06:05] <ardchoille> ed1t: the sources list should have instructions on how to fix that.
[06:05] <bulmer> brownbro: you tried google? yahoo? and still cant connect?
[06:05] <Adlai> I just popped in feisty herd 5 to install it, and the animations on boot are inordinately slow.  Is this to be expected?
[06:05] <neozen> mkquist: /home is your personal files /usr is your program files
[06:06] <brownbro> bulmer: yup. google.com was the first i tried. didnt connect. timed out.
[06:06] <bulmer> brownbro what browser are you using?
[06:06] <neozen> Adlai: its buggy
[06:06] <brownbro> bulmer: firefox. the default installed.
[06:06] <mattie10> Frogzoo, so I'll always have to turn it off physically then? More importantly, there's no harm in this, right? since I'm probably too much of a novice to make things up with acpi
[06:06] <mkquist> neozen - so i could move em both? and keep this drive open?
[06:06] <elijah> ceaser, what filename should i use? any filename i want?
[06:06] <bulmer> brownbro: you tried google? yahoo? and still cant connect?
[06:06] <neozen> mkquist: well.. you'll want to stick root on that drive
[06:06] <brownbro> bulmer: yes
[06:06] <neozen> mkquist: make that /
[06:06] <ardchoille> ed1t: it does, look at the top of the generated sources.list, it tells how to get the keys and what to do with them
[06:06] <ceaser> elijah: yeah, it doesn't matter
[06:06] <bulmer> brownbro: yes what?
[06:06] <mattie10> I mean, should I not worry about it -- and just always in the future turn it off physically?
[06:06] <PhibreOptix> Hi guys, I bought a new PCI video card today, only to find out that my computer is half-height PCI, is there anyway I can get this to plugin still? Maybe some kind of adaptor cord
[06:06] <elijah> ok, then where will i put the file?
[06:07] <brownbro> bulmer: yes, have tried connecting to google.com but it times out
[06:07] <neozen> mkquist: and put /usr and /home on separate partitions on other drives
[06:07] <SubMOA> any goog cli broswers?
[06:07] <ardchoille> SubMOA: links, lynx, elinks, w3m
[06:07] <mkquist> neozen - make the other drive root?
[06:07] <neozen> SubMOA: elinks and links2
[06:07] <bulmer> brownbro restart your X window, log-out then login again
[06:07] <ceaser> elijah: anywhere that can be read; you can hide it in your home directory, or put it into /etc if you want to share it between users
[06:07] <neozen> mkquist: NO
[06:07] <neozen> mkquist: make the 3gb /
[06:07] <SubMOA> anymore? hehe
[06:07] <elijah> ok thanks
[06:08] <SubMOA> and preferences?
[06:08] <neozen> mkquist: and your other larger drive split into /home and /usr
[06:08] <brownbro> bulmer: ive tried that. also tried just configuring a standard network connection and connect via cable. same results. can only access ubuntu.com
[06:08] <neozen> mkquist: / never really gets that large
[06:08] <Frogzoo> mattie10: if you get a message "system halted" you can hit the power with zero risk
[06:08] <brownbro> bulmer: ethenet connection, that is
[06:08] <mkquist> neozen - so use mv?
[06:08] <neozen> mkquist: you might not even have to split /usr off of / if you don't plan on installing many applications
[06:08] <neozen> mkquist: no
[06:08] <ardchoille> Frogzoo: mattie10 is using a livecd, is there a risk when just powering down without logout?
[06:08] <neozen> mkquist: you
[06:08] <bulmer> brownbro: i cant believe that ..what does your netstat -rn  tells you?
[06:08] <Kamikosis> Hey all.
[06:08] <mattie10> Frogzoo, nope, no such thing. Last thing in the history is "The system is going down fo rhalt NOW!"
[06:09] <neozen> mkquist: you'd set up all that in /etc/fstab
[06:09] <brownbro> bulmer: ill have to startup and give that a try. one moment
[06:09] <Frogzoo> ardchoille: on a livecd without mounted file systems, you can hit the power whenever
[06:09] <neozen> mkquist: best case, you do it at install time
[06:09] <neozen> Kamikosis: hi
[06:09] <bullgard4> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8415/ shows that Ubuntu compiled two Ethernet modules in my kernel. I am surprised because in Debian Etch they could not co-exist on my computer. Could this fact be the cause that Ubuntu does not bring up the Ethernet after Suspend-to-Ram?
[06:09] <ardchoille> mattie10: If you haven't mounted any physical disks, you can just hit the power button since its a livecd
[06:09] <mkquist> neozen - well this was the only install that finally worked, got a 400 gig but just couldnt get grub to work on it
[06:10] <elijah> ceaser then then how will i do the mounting? :)
[06:10] <neozen> mkquist: oi
[06:10] <ceaser> elijah: how do you normally do it?
[06:10] <mkquist> neozen - so i can edit the fstab now that its running?
[06:10] <neozen> mkquist: NO
[06:10] <mkquist> live cd?
[06:10] <neozen> mkquist: YES
[06:10] <elijah> i dunno, im not sure.
[06:10] <elijah> sorry
[06:10] <mkquist> neozen -lol
[06:10] <ceaser> elijah: np
[06:11] <neozen> mkquist: you don't edit files like that when the system is running
[06:11] <Slaj_R> Is anyone free to assist in diagnosing a wireless problem?  I have followed every online guide I could find and they haven't worked.
[06:11] <ceaser> elijah: do the network locations automatically mount?
[06:11] <neozen> mkquist: not unless you want to watch a linux system go kaboom
[06:11] <mkquist> neozen - right
[06:11] <mkquist> lol
[06:11] <mattie10> ardchoille, being a novice - the whole "mounting" concept is still a little fuzzy to me. anyway, from what little I have observed the things to be -- my suspicion is that I haven't mounted anything, so I'll go ahead and shut it off physically :)
[06:11] <neozen> Slaj_R: what kind of card
[06:11] <bulmer> neozen:  what is wrong with editing the file /etc/fstab?
[06:11] <Adlai> neozen, sure you do
[06:11] <mkquist> neozen -just glad to finally have it running
[06:11] <Slaj_R> neozen: Broadcom
[06:11] <Adlai> there's nothing wrong with editing fstab
[06:11] <neozen> Slaj_R: not me
[06:11] <ceaser> elijah: or are you using a graphical filemanager to do it, or are you running something from the console?
[06:11] <bulmer> exactly Adlai
[06:12] <elijah> when i click network servers in places, i can normally see the workstations in our domain
[06:12] <Slaj_R> worked fine until Edgy
[06:12] <neozen> Adlai: while system is in use?
[06:12] <mkquist> Adlai - while the system is running?
[06:12] <Adlai> yes
[06:12] <neozen> Adlai: ok... I stand corrected
[06:12] <bulmer> neozen yes while system is in use you can edit /etc/fstab
[06:12] <ceaser> ahh gotcha
[06:12] <brownbro> bulmer: netstat -rn gives me a list of two things
[06:12] <Adlai> fstab only gets checked when mount gets called.....
[06:12] <Kamikosis> Hey all, I cannot get my sound working on this distro, its an AC97
[06:12] <neozen> AHHH
[06:12] <neozen> thank you for the info
[06:12] <Adlai> it's mtab you don't want to touch
[06:12] <Adlai> ever
[06:12] <neozen> gotcha
[06:12] <bulmer> browbro and what are those?
[06:12] <klus> i cant seem to install my video driver
[06:12] <Adlai> I mean, it won't bork your system, it'll just make things confused
[06:12] <mkquist> so basically the new fstab would go into effect only on reboot?
[06:12] <neozen> yes...
[06:12] <klus> i try everything
[06:13] <bulmer> mkquist and also when you do a   mount -a
[06:13] <Adlai> mkquist, or next time you mount something
[06:13] <klus> first i try loading safe mode
[06:13] <brownbro> bulmer: its got two rows of info. first column is DESTINATION. one row starts with 10.0.0.0, the second starts with 0.0.0.0
[06:13] <klus> that diddnt work
[06:13] <klus> than root
[06:13] <klus> that didn;t worl
[06:13] <mkquist> ty - time to hook up the other drive, ill be back (i hope)
[06:13] <klus> plz help
[06:13] <neozen> mkquist: best of luck
[06:13] <elijah> yes ceaser
[06:14] <mkquist> ty
[06:14] <mkquist> later
[06:14] <neozen> klus: what kind of card?
[06:14] <ceaser> elijah: hmmmmmm the credentials file only works if you are mounting the network drives from the command line I think.......
[06:14] <bulmer> brownbro thats the key, your system seems to be not configured correct, there should be more than two lines
[06:14] <elijah> ohhh, ok
[06:14] <ceaser> elijah: doing it from the network places, let me think for a minute on the best way to do that
[06:14] <neozen> klus: HEY KLUS ... make / model info plz
[06:14] <elijah> then i can try that also
[06:14] <klus> geforce
[06:14] <klus> 7600
[06:14] <brownbro> bulmer: ah! ok. i configured everything thru the GUI, as the instructions on the site told me. hows the best way to do it?
[06:14] <neozen> klus: ok
[06:15] <bulmer> brownbro paste your netstat -rn   since its only two lines
[06:15] <neozen> klus: have you scoped out the forums?
[06:15] <klus> yes
[06:15] <neozen> klus: ooook
[06:15] <Zamber> !radeon
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <Kamikosis> Anyone no what to do?
[06:15] <Zamber> !fglrx
[06:15] <Adlai> klus, have you rigorously researched the forums? =P
[06:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:15] <brownbro> bulmer: heh. i would. its on a different computer. would you like me to send it to you private?
[06:15] <bulmer> brownbro: take your time and paste it here
[06:16] <cafuego_> !paste
[06:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:16] <neozen> brownbro: synergy ..... find it ... use it
[06:16] <Kamikosis> know* I cant spell anymore.
[06:16] <neozen> brownbro: unifies clipboards across multiple OS's
[06:16] <neozen> brownbro: not to mention unifying keyboard and mouse control
[06:18] <neozen> it usually that busy?
[06:18] <neozen> the room I mean
[06:18] <cafuego_> neozen: pretty much
[06:18] <neozen> its not at all like this in #xubuntu
[06:18] <brownbro> destination | gateway | genmask | flags | MSS | window | irtt | iface
[06:18] <brownbro> 10.0.0.0 | 0.0.0.0 | 255.0.0.0 | U | 0 | 0 | 0 | eth0
[06:18] <brownbro> 0.0.0.0 | 10.1.1.1 | 0.0.0.0 | UG | 0 | 0 | 0 | eth0
[06:18] <neozen> its nice
[06:18] <neozen> I feel useful
[06:18] <roe> anyone have any idea how to control which monitor mplayer full screens to on a dual head setup?
[06:18] <neozen> !xinerama
[06:18] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:18] <brownbro> bulmer: there it is. sorry about its look
[06:19] <ceaser> elijah: actually, I don't think there is a way to set the default credentials with the nautilus network browser
[06:19] <Kud|> What's the terminal command to setup the video card drivers that come packaged with ubuntu?
[06:19] <ceaser> elijah: do you have a few network shares that you always want to connect to?
[06:19] <Adlai> I don't suppose I'm going to get any help on this X stuff in feisty 5, am I?
[06:19] <neozen> roe: I think xinerama might help you
[06:19] <ceaser> elijah: or does it change
[06:19] <elijah> yup
[06:19] <bulmer> brownbro: oh that looks okay..am wondering where is the local loopback..not there?
[06:19] <roe> neozen, I am using twinview, so I already have the desktop spanning the dual heads
[06:19] <neozen> roe: aaah
[06:19] <elijah> should i just save it to the keyring?
[06:19] <neozen> roe: I'll shut up now
[06:20] <brownbro> bulmer: thats pretty much all the netstat -rn is showing
[06:20] <bulmer> brownbro: never mind, i was thinking of windows
[06:20] <neozen> roe: I don't run multi-headed
[06:20] <ceaser> elijah: Oh, does it give you the option to do that?
[06:20] <brownbro> bulmer: heh. ok.
[06:20] <neozen> roe: though I aspire to one day
[06:20] <Kamikosis> Does anyone at all known how to fix the sound on Ubuntu? It a Panasonic CF-48, All volume controls are unlocked, unmuted, and full volume. There no sound.
[06:20] <Adlai> ahh
[06:20] <elijah> ummm, yuh but doesn't work sometimes
[06:20] <Adlai> what's the way in xorg.conf to shut off compositing and AIGLX?
[06:20] <mattie10> when I boot-up up computer with a live cd, I get this: [   129.215916 ]  Buffer I/O erroron device hdc, logical block 67440 -- I
[06:20] <roe> neozen, gotcha, it isn't that hard, xorg is a dream compared to the old days of xfree86
[06:20] <ceaser> elijah: here, check this out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280473
[06:20] <elijah> what about the other thing that you've mentioned?
[06:20] <mattie10> 'm a bit confused,  what may be going on here?
[06:20] <cafuego_> mattie10: Probably a busted cd.
[06:21] <ceaser> elijah: that explains the manual mounting of the network drives, and also tells you how to configure the automatic mounting
[06:21] <Kud|> What's the terminal command to setup the video card drivers that come packaged with ubuntu?
[06:21] <ceaser> elijah: with a credentials file- it can probably explain it better than I can ;)
[06:21] <cafuego_> Kud|: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:21] <elijah> ummm,ok :) thank you so much amn
[06:21] <bulmer> brownbro: wait there seems something to be a-miss.. 10.1.1.1 as the gateway?
[06:21] <elijah> man
[06:21] <klus> neozen: not working
[06:21] <cafuego_> Kud|: Or did you mean the restricted-modules-$(uname -r) stuff?
[06:21] <mattie10> cafuego, (novice question:) what does 'device hdc' denote here?
[06:22] <brownbro> bulmer: 10.1.1.1 is my wireless router. im plugged into the back of it via an ethernet cable at the moment.
[06:22] <cafuego_> mattie10: The secondary master ide device (probably the cdrom)
[06:22] <Kud|> cafuego_: No, you gave me exactly what I was looking for. Thanks :)
[06:22] <bulmer> brownbro and what is the ip address of your nic?
[06:22] <ceaser> elijah: yeah, as for nautilus network browsing, you're pretty much stuck if it doesn't save the things to the keyring correctly. there may be some other filemanagers that can do network browsing better, but I'm not sure what they are
[06:22] <mattie10> cafuego, oh, right. I was thinking that ha- must mean some hdd
[06:22] <ceaser> elijah: I use the manual mounting technique myself
[06:23] <brownbro> bulmer: whats the best way to find that? at the moment im running auto config for DHCP
[06:23] <overrider> god the initial update of ubuntu just takes too long. 230+mb over a slow link, awful
[06:23] <cafuego_> mattie10: Nah; it refers to the controllers more than anything.
[06:23] <bulmer> brownbro  ifconfig -a
[06:23] <Kamikosis> Can anyone help me?
[06:23] <r3factored> Why is dmesg and syslog filling up with these entries (repeated)? [ 5505.024506]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[06:23] <mattie10> cafuego, I checked the cd by checksum if it was good.. the ISO was good, but how can I verify the disc after I've burned it, any ideas?
[06:23] <Gnomer__> Kamikosis, asking to ask isn't very effective is it?
[06:23] <cafuego_> mattie10: If you're installing on that old pc btw, you may prefer to install from the `alternate' cd.
[06:23] <cafuego_> mattie10: Depend on what you used to burn
[06:24] <Kamikosis> Gnomer__: Ive asked three times
[06:24] <mattie10> nero 7, on a win machine
[06:24] <cafuego_> r3factored: You ejected a disk that had open files
[06:24] <Gnomer__> Kamikosis, ask again, I didn't see.
[06:24] <cafuego_> mattie10: I dunno then
[06:24] <navreet> hi, my time switched back
[06:24] <navreet> any ideas how to fix it?
[06:24] <r3factored> cafuego aha thanks - anyway to stop it or do i let it run its course?
[06:24] <brownbro> bulmer: you mean the INET address?
[06:25] <Kamikosis> Gnomer__: My sound system is no functioning at all. Ive raised the volume and unmuted everything, nothing is happening. The sound card is an AC97
[06:25] <cafuego_> r3factored: Reinsert disk, right click icon and choose 'eject' .. or just ignore it.
[06:25] <r3factored> ok thanks
[06:25] <bulmer> brownbro: yes
[06:25] <brownbro> bulmer: its 10.1.1.6. im assuming its the address the router gave me.  theres a few other computers on the network, and they have others like this
[06:25] <Gnomer__> Kamikosis, I've no idea, sorry.
[06:26] <mkquist> woot it reboots. lol
[06:26] <Kamikosis> Gnomer__: It fine.
[06:26] <cafuego_> mattie10: You might be able to make it work, if you burn at 8x instead of max speed - that tends to help.
[06:26] <XP> just wondering, why is it that everytime i update my kernel, my grub points to the wrong root? i.e instead of root(0,0), it points to root(0,1)?
[06:26] <barata> Hallo all, I've got this obnoxious error message: "Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid."
[06:26] <barata> anybody knows about that?
[06:26] <cafuego_> XP: You have the wrong default value in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:26] <mattie10>     cafuego... ahh that makes sense, I actually burned it 24x
[06:26] <XP> cafuego: it's auto generated
[06:27] <XP> i know how to fix it
[06:27] <cafuego_> XP: Still.
[06:27] <bulmer> brownbro i cant seem to wrap my head around that..your 10.0.0.0 mask 255.0.0.0 but yet the gateway is 10.1.1.1
[06:27] <XP> but i am wondering why it's generating the wrong root
[06:27] <Adlai> hey, does anyone have information about restricted modules being included in a base install?
[06:27] <cafuego_> XP: hold on, I got it confused with 'kopt'
[06:27] <XP> ok
[06:28] <Adlai> I just got this X session to work with the feisty liveCD, but it required a lot of prior knowledge
[06:28] <mattie10> cafuego, this is like an 11 year old desktop, it may be that the optical drive is not good, right?
[06:28] <mkquist> so this is running on a p2 500 mhz, not bad
[06:28] <Adlai> this disc would be completely unusable for someone with an ati radeon card who hadn't dealt with it before
[06:28] <arfy> hi all, am trying to install barreyl using the ati-aiglx-beryl.sh script. However, i keep getting syntax errors, for example, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10997/ Any suggestions?
[06:28] <sp0ro> !resolution
[06:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:28] <cafuego_> XP: Do you have a '# groot=hd(0,0) line?
[06:28] <brownbro> bulmer: yeah. if its windows you can plug into my router fine. if your wireless, i just allow the MAC address and it connects fine too. the MAC address is allowed for the card i use for my laptops, and no problems usually. just this time.
[06:28] <XP> cafuego_: gimme a sec, checking..
[06:28] <cafuego_> XP: Though it has a comment, it needs to be correct, as it;s used as the template.
[06:29] <arfy> Is it something to do with the fact /bin/sh is linked to dash instead of bash?
[06:29] <Pie-rate> how do i change capture sources in alsa to mic only?
[06:29] <arrenlex> arfy: Why not get beryl the approved way?
[06:29] <arrenlex> !beryl | arfy
[06:29] <ubotu> arfy: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:29] <bulmer> brownbro try /etc/init.d/networking restart and try getting to sites like google and yahoo again..
[06:29] <XP> cafuego_: uncomment that line?
[06:30] <arfy> arrenlex: thx
[06:30] <cafuego_> XP: No, the line needs a single comment, but it ODES need to contain the correct grub root string
[06:30] <cafuego_> so "# groot=(hd0,0)" in your case
[06:30] <XP> roger that dude
[06:30] <XP> thanks :)
[06:30] <cafuego_> and make sure there aren't others
[06:31] <arrenlex> arfy: Er, that link wasn't as useful as I thought. ATI+fglrx: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL ; NVIDIA: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[06:31] <brownbro> bulmer: its telling me permission denied
[06:31] <Kamikosis> To google!
[06:31] <neozen> brownbro: become root
[06:31] <arrenlex> brownbro: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:31] <bulmer> brownbro as root.. use sudo
[06:31] <neozen> brownbro: sudo
[06:31] <arrenlex> !sudo | brownbro
[06:31] <ubotu> brownbro: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:31] <twodeko> howdy all
[06:32] <neozen> twodeko: hi
[06:32] <twodeko> anyone know how to use mdadm
[06:32] <twodeko> had a raid array go awry
[06:32] <khaije1> why is it ok to place downloaded media in the /tmp directory? Isn't this a clear example of information leakage?
[06:32] <twodeko> hey neozen
[06:32] <brownbro> bulmer: googles stil pinging ok ....
[06:32] <cafuego_> twodeko: Is one disk still ok?
[06:32] <neozen> khaije1: .....::shrugs:: ...depends on whether you're d/ling sensitive info
[06:32] <twodeko> cafuego, yup
[06:33] <twodeko> just did a reinstall and i think one got smoked, just rebuilt it and now it says the superblock is not detected when i try to mount the drives
[06:33] <cafuego_> twodeko: Ok, set the other one to offline and remove it rom the array
[06:33] <twodeko> raid5
[06:33] <neozen> khaije1: I believe its still owned by you... and you can set permissions on it..... so if someone doesn't have privs.... all they know is that the file exists.....not whats in it
[06:33] <cafuego_> aaah
[06:33] <neozen> khaije1: sounds like an exam question
[06:33] <bulmer> browbro can you browse to those sites now?
[06:34] <twodeko> well, i just want to rebuild the array but keep all my data intact
[06:34] <neozen> khaije1: don't they disallow IRC for exams these days?
[06:34] <twodeko> and i am a little wary of all the commands for mdadm
[06:34] <cafuego_> twodeko: It's not mounting the array at all?
[06:34] <twodeko> nope, mount gives the wrong fs type, no superblock detected
[06:34] <khaije1> neozen: not really, either way it's leakage because the filename is not obfuscated
[06:34] <twodeko> it loaded two arrays
[06:34] <twodeko> md0 it was rebuilding
[06:34] <brownbro> bulmer: nop. damn.
[06:34] <twodeko> md1 was some intermittent array that had the one disk down
[06:35] <twodeko> but i disabled md1 since md0 should be the operational one
[06:35] <bulmer> brownbro result of netstat -rn again?
[06:35] <mkquist> neozen - so now, little confused how can i move the usr/home directories and have ubuntu know where its at?
[06:35] <brownbro> bulmer: exactly as before
[06:35] <neozen> lol
[06:35] <brownbro> bulmer: no change
[06:35] <neozen> mkquist: welcome back
[06:35] <khaije1> neozen: not an exam question, i was just always surprised by this, it just seems sloppy and i'm surprised it's tolerated, the problem is that it's not hidden in a directory where view rights can be set
[06:35] <jarrad> .join #ubuntu-au
[06:36] <neozen> mkquist: you have to create partitions on the drives where you want them to be....
[06:36] <bulmer> brownbro okay..can you try xchat client on that machine?
[06:36] <neozen> mkquist: then edit your fstab
[06:36] <brownbro> bulmer: yet i can still browse to www.ubunto.com. ah the tease ...
[06:36] <neozen> mkquist: then copy the data from its current locations maintaining proper permissions
[06:36] <mkquist> neozen - ty, booted just fine
[06:36] <RAV_TUX> any ircops around?
[06:37] <cafuego_> RAV_TUX: Yes, what's up?
[06:37] <brownbro> bulmer: xchat? you mean like gaim?
[06:37] <neozen> mkquist: its a bitch splitting off parts of your filesystem at runtime
[06:37] <RAV_TUX> #sabayon is bsing major spammed
[06:37] <mkquist> neozen - copy maintaing proper permissions?
[06:37] <RAV_TUX> no ops around
[06:37] <bulmer> brownbro: yes, just trying another client to get beyond your router
[06:37] <neozen> mkquist: yeah
[06:37] <cafuego_> Dunno, there are are #sabayon ops here
[06:37] <brownbro> bulmer: tried that. gaim doesnt connect to anything.
[06:38] <Pie-rate> ALSA is capturing from the Master channel, so my music and game sounds are being sent over teamspeak. How can I fix this?
[06:38] <RAV_TUX> cafuego_: I need like a freenode op
[06:38] <mkquist> neozen - how do i maintain permissions?
[06:38] <jarrad> Any one know a good tutorial for setting up duel head on ati
[06:38] <neozen> mkquist: ie... that the file remains owned by the person it was owned by originally and has the permissions it originally did
[06:38] <cafuego_> RAV_TUX: oper, not op ;-)  Check #freenode
[06:38] <brownbro> bulmer: it just sits there trying to connect and eventually times out
[06:38] <cafuego_> Bhaal: Are you awake?
[06:38] <jimcooncat> anyone using virtualbox?
[06:38] <mkquist> neozen - if i copied them w/sudo wouldn't the permissions stay the same?
[06:38] <neozen> mkquist: that's what I'm unsure about
[06:38] <bulmer> brownbro so that tells you that your network setup is not correct yet, as I suspected based on netsta -rn results
[06:38] <RAV_TUX> I checked freenode it frowards me
[06:39] <RAV_TUX> then I can't leave a message
[06:39] <neozen> mkquist: man cp
[06:39] <mkquist> neozen - and how does ubuntu know where to look? fstab?
[06:39] <neozen> mkquist: yes
[06:39] <brownbro> bulmer: should i go back to working out how best to set it up? obviously autoconfig isnt going to work for me
[06:39] <mkquist> lemme look, thanx - b back
[06:39] <neozen> mkquist: to my knowledge that's precisely where such information is stored
[06:39] <bulmer> brownbro: yeah you may as well
[06:39] <sp0ro> !resolution
[06:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:39] <neozen> lol
[06:39] <RAV_TUX> 0 staff members
[06:40] <brownbro> bulmer: ok. ill give that a try. thanks man. it just seems so damn strange that i can only access one website and nothing else of the web ....
[06:40] <neozen> brownbro: well... if the site is local.... isn't all that strange
[06:40] <bulmer> brownbro: thats why i suggested other apps to verify connectivity
[06:40] <jones> anyone know how to bump the version # in the changelog file/.
[06:40] <brownbro> neozen: is ubuntu.com local tho?
[06:41] <neozen> brownbro: ....with enough mirrors they just might be ::grins::
[06:41] <neozen> brownbro: no
[06:41] <brownbro> neozen: grins. at least im not going crazy then.
[06:41] <brownbro> thanks all for you incredible patience. ill persue setting myself up manually
[06:41] <neozen> brownbro: are you using static or dynamic ip
[06:42] <brownbro> neozen: i was using dynamic ip
[06:42] <neozen> brownbro: ok
[06:42] <brownbro> neozen: assigned by the router.
[06:42] <neozen> brownbro: was just a though
[06:42] <neozen> t
[06:42] <brownbro> neozen: setting static seems to do pretty much just the same as autoconfig
[06:42] <cafuego_> RAV_TUX: It would help if people there didn't keep feeding the trolls.
[06:43] <nully> hi,  can i copy/backup my VCD, what is program tools for do it ?
[06:43] <RAV_TUX> they are not regulars
[06:43] <klus> neozen: i need linux-kernel-1.0.9629
[06:43] <cafuego_> RAV_TUX: Just ask 'em to stop, as their baiting annoys more people than the actual troll does.
[06:44] <RAV_TUX> ok
[06:44] <neozen> brownbro: just because you can't get a ping response from google.com doesn't mean you can't get one from 66.102.7.99
[06:45] <neozen> klus: WHY?
[06:45] <neozen> klus: lol
[06:45] <klus> i dont know
[06:45] <neozen> klus: you don't actually want to do that to yourself do you?
[06:45] <klus> neozen: how
[06:46] <neozen> klus: why do you need that version?
[06:46] <nully> anybody help me, how to copy/backup the VCD in ubuntu ?
[06:46] <klus> neozen: i dont know
[06:46] <mikefoo> Anyone have an idea if its safe to leave a hard drive in a usb external enclosure on 24/7?
[06:46] <neozen> klus: well... if you don't know... you don't actually need it do you
[06:47] <klus> neozen: i dont think ubuntu install the nivida driver for my card
[06:47] <neozen> klus: using an ancient ass version of the kernel won't help you in the least
[06:47] <mjbrooks> mike depends on the case and drive
[06:48] <neozen> klus: you want something in the 2.6.x series.... TRUST ME
[06:48] <klus> neozen: i may have the wrong version
[06:48] <mikefoo> its an aluminum case, no fans, and its a sata drive
[06:48] <klus> neozen: ill dbl check
[06:48] <neozen> klus: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:48] <mjbrooks> mikefoo: does it generate a lot of heat?
[06:48] <mikefoo> a good amount, yeah
[06:49] <klus> neozen: the newest version
[06:49] <_cerberus_> what package do you need to install to get the opengl headers?
[06:49] <cafuego_> !find GL.h
[06:49] <klus> neozen: nivida-kernel-1.0.9629
[06:49] <ubotu> File gl.h found in boinc-dev, clanlib-examples, crystalspace-dev, gnulib, gtkglarea5-dev (and 37 others)
[06:49] <neozen> klus: AH
[06:49] <cafuego_> Nab bad bot
[06:49] <_cerberus_> thank you
[06:49] <neozen> klus: now that is a different kernel entirely
[06:49] <klus> ok
[06:50] <cafuego_> _cerberus_: No, it's listing case-insensitive stuff, which is mad.
[06:50] <mjbrooks> mikefoo: then you might want to consider getting a case that can cool it with a fan
[06:50] <cafuego_> Linus_Torvalds: Going to troll here too?
[06:50] <Linus_Torvalds> JEWS DID WTC - NIGGERS BELONG IN ZOOS - CHINKS BELONG IN SWEATSHOPS - JEWS DID WTC - NIGGERS BELONG IN ZOOS - CHINKS BELONG IN SWEATSHOPS - JEWS DID WTC - NIGGERS BELONG IN ZOOS - CHINKS BELONG IN SWEATSHOPS - JEWS DID WTC - NIGGERS BELONG IN ZOOS - CHINKS BELONG IN SWEATSHOPS - JEWS DID WTC - NIGGERS BELONG IN ZOOS - CHINKS BELONG IN SWEATSHOPS - JEWS DID WTC - NIGGERS BELONG IN ZOOS - CHINKS BELONG IN SWEATSHOPS - JEWS DID WTC -
[06:50] <cafuego_> !ops Linus_Torvalds is trolling
[06:50] <gn0me> Nice.
[06:50] <cafuego_> !ops
[06:50] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[06:50] <l90bpm> no way...
[06:50] <sheri_rao> Linus_Torvalds, hypocrate!
[06:50] <l90bpm> lol
[06:51] <cafuego_> Madpilot: If you're on #freenode, let an oper know, he's done that on multie channels.
[06:51] <neozen> oops ... too late
[06:51] <neozen> lol
[06:51] <greenhobo21> I have a 1440x900 screen on my laptop and Linux Mint doesn't allow me to change resolutions. Anything out there to let me change my resolution?
[06:51] <Madpilot> cafuego_, thanks, I'll join #freenode
[06:51] <klus> neozen: how do i get it
[06:51] <cafuego_> RAV_TUX: There ya go .. :-)
[06:51] <Jaguar> Kinda makes you lose a little of your faith in humanity knowing people go around doing that just for fun.
[06:51] <neozen> klus: the forums will tell you
[06:51] <neozen> klus: you just have to look
[06:52] <neozen> klus: just as we once did
[06:52] <neozen> klus: your answer is there... you just have to read.... this is why research BEFORE purchasing hardware is a good thing
[06:52] <RAV_TUX> looks like things settled down
[06:53] <mjbrooks> mikefoo: you probably won't burn your house down, but the life of your drive will be shorter if you let it stay hot 24/7
[06:53] <RAV_TUX> cafuego_: thanks for the advice
[06:53] <greenhobo21> Yeah, now that Linus isn't on a racial spat
[06:53] <RAV_TUX> that linus is a charecter
[06:53] <l90bpm> Who's next? Steve and Bill?
[06:54] <neozen> did someone say Bill?
[06:54] <mjbrooks> ./nick SteveAndBill    lol
[06:54] <sheri_rao> greenhobo21, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:54] <Pie-rate> does ANYONE understand ALSA?
[06:55] <neozen> Pie-rate: I KNOW I don't
[06:55] <Pie-rate> ALSA is capturing from the Master channel or something, so my music and game sounds are being sent over teamspeak. How can I fix this?
[06:55] <neozen> Pie-rate: I plugged it in... turned it on... and it worked...... haven't fucked w/ alsa since then
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | neozen
[06:56] <ubotu> neozen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:56] <sheri_rao> Pie-rate, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
[06:56] <neozen> ...oops
[06:56] <PWill> Anybody know why art.ubuntu.com's FTP server is down?
[06:56] <neozen> sorry bout that
[06:56] <mjbrooks> bad neo
[06:56] <mjbrooks> lol
[06:56] <neozen> lol
[06:56] <greenhobo21> Neo is a potty mouth
[06:57] <sheri_rao> Pie-rate, http://www.alsa-project.org/ alsa proj site
[06:57] <greenhobo21> Keep it clean, ... my kids, that I have and are up mysteriously at 1 AM, might come in
[06:57] <neozen> well.... I've been spending all day staring @ c++ code that loves to explode......
[06:57] <Pie-rate> sheri_rao: that's useless.
[06:57] <Pie-rate> sheri_rao: i've searched their wiki for everything i could think of
[06:57] <neozen> (btw..... sentinel values are wonderful beasts)
[06:57] <Jaguar> neozen: Welcome to my life...
[06:57] <sheri_rao> Pie-rate, then c wiki pagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
[06:57] <Madpilot> greenhobo21, it's not 1 AM everywhere, you know ;)
[06:57] <mjbrooks> Pie-rate: are you in Gnome or KDE?
[06:57] <Pie-rate> sheri_rao: hooooooooooooow is that supposed to help?
[06:58] <sheri_rao> Pie-rate, what exactly u want to know
[06:58] <Pie-rate> mjbrooks: gnome
[06:58] <Pie-rate> sheri_rao: ALSA is capturing from the Master channel or something, so my music and game sounds are being sent over teamspeak. How can I fix this?
[06:58] <greenhobo21> Madpilot: I am vanquished.
[06:58] <greenhobo21> :P
[06:58] <neozen> Pie-rate: .......there... you will find more information then you could possibly want
[06:59] <neozen> Pie-rate: carefully indexed so even people like us can find the info we're looking for in a reasonable amount of time
[06:59] <Nel> Good Day People
[06:59] <neozen> Pie-rate: that's how it helps
[06:59] <dragons11> hey can ne1 tell me the site where i can make a new sources list plz?
[06:59] <neozen> sound about right all?
[07:00] <dragons11> anyone?
[07:00] <Nel> Sorry i am just new to this
[07:00] <greenhobo21> Pie-rate: I think they are telling you to do your own research. They've helped enough.
[07:00] <mjbrooks> Pie-rate: It's been awhile since I've played in Gnome, but in KDE I can use KMix to modify inputs and outputs
[07:00] <neozen> Nel: greetings
[07:00] <Madpilot> dragons11, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic - and please drop the AIMglish here...
[07:00] <neozen> Nel: salutaions
[07:00] <neozen> Nel: and MOO!
[07:00] <Pie-rate> greenhobo21: i've done a TON of research, messed with alsamixer, messed with amixer, messed with every other damn tool
[07:00] <mjbrooks> anyone know what the equiv to KDE's KMix is in Gnome?
[07:01] <dragons11> aumix?
[07:01] <Pie-rate> greenhobo21: i think its an appropriate time to ask for help, since i'm out of options i can do myself
[07:01] <neozen> mjbrooks: no... I know this
[07:01] <greenhobo21> Pie-rate: Don't get your panties in a bunch.
[07:02] <neozen> mjbrooks: gnome-alsamixer probably is what you're looking for
[07:02] <neozen> mjbrooks: you just want a volume control right?
[07:02] <Pie-rate> greenhobo21: EVERY time i come in the ubuntu channel, i get people either spamming !omgiknownothingsoi'llgiveyouauselessbotmessageyou'veseenamilliontimes or they tell me to go do the research i just did again.
[07:02] <sheri_rao> mjbrooks, gnome-alsamixer
[07:03] <mjbrooks> neozen: It was in response to Pie-rate's issue   I'm good ;)
[07:03] <bigrich88_> hey all, i just read about the ultimate edition 1.3 on digg.com. i'm wondering if it's more or less inclusive than the gamer's edition, and also where to get it (the main servers seem to be down)
[07:03] <r4nge> what does... 68/udp open|filtered dhcpc
[07:03] <r4nge> do
[07:04] <greenhobo21> Later, all.
[07:05] <bigrich88> ...alright, never mind that, it's downloading now
[07:05] <bigrich88> but what's the difference between ultimate and gamer's?
[07:05] <josheus_awesomeu> yeaaaah
[07:05] <dragons11> mmk u guys wer so much help im out of questions to ask :-)
[07:05] <dragons11> bye
[07:05] <neozen> lol
[07:05] <neozen> um... farewell
[07:06] <neozen> time I head out as well
[07:06] <neozen> have 2 exams tomorrow
[07:06] <neozen> ...er ... today
[07:06] <mjbrooks> r4nge: 68/udp is dhcp
[07:07] <mjbrooks> r4nge: are you asking what dhcp is?
[07:07] <neozen> r4nge: looks like a firewall rule
[07:08] <PWill> Does anybody know why art.ubuntu.com's FTP server is down?
[07:08] <neozen> PWill: ....its taking a nap
[07:08] <r4nge> i currently dont have any firewall up
[07:08] <neozen> PWill: sleeping
[07:08] <PWill> neozen: :(
[07:08] <r4nge> i just happened to find it was open with nmap
[07:08] <neozen> PWill: or someone just pounded on it a bit too hard
[07:08] <mjbrooks> r4nge: where are you reading that message from?
[07:09] <neozen> PWill: it'll come back up
[07:09] <mjbrooks> PWill: or they are blocking you
[07:09] <mjbrooks> j/k
[07:09] <PWill> ha
[07:09] <r4nge> mjbrooks: nmap
[07:09] <neozen> PWill: web.archive.org
[07:09] <r4nge> nmap -sU
[07:09] <mjbrooks> oh
[07:09] <bigrich88> ...so no one knows the difference between ubuntu ultimate, gamers, and ultimate gamers?
[07:09] <PWill> neozen: well, i need to actually ftp to the site
[07:09] <mjbrooks> hahaha
[07:09] <PWill> i'm working on a theme for a LoCo
[07:10] <neozen> r4nge: ok.... its open because you really want to to get a new IP from your network
[07:10] <neozen> r4nge: this is NOT something you want to turn off
[07:10] <neozen> r4nge: unless you use static IP
[07:10] <mjbrooks> unless he's running static ;)
[07:10] <mjbrooks> dOH
[07:10] <neozen> exactly
[07:10] <Darkkish> ok so i farked up my xubuntu using sudo mount
[07:10] <r4nge> hmm, i have been getting something inb my syslog about eth0 leases
[07:10] <Darkkish> "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mount
[07:10] <neozen> Darkkish: nice
[07:10] <Darkkish> how do i undo it so everything is normal?
[07:11] <neozen> you might be boned
[07:11] <eck> Darkkish: umount /mount
[07:11] <Darkkish> shut up, i'm bad at linux
[07:11] <r4nge> my ip isnt advertised static but i've never had it change
[07:11] <greig_> can someone point me to where i can get the latest kopete for ubun 5.60
[07:11] <mjbrooks> DarkX: sudo umount /dev/hda1
[07:11] <neozen> Darkkish: I fragged mine the first week too mon
[07:11] <eck> mjbrooks: definitely not, what if /dev/hda1 is mounted elsewhere?
[07:11] <neozen> Darkkish: I think its a rite of passage
[07:11] <Darkkish> er
[07:11] <Darkkish> i mean
[07:11] <Darkkish> actually what i did
[07:11] <Darkkish> is
[07:12] <Darkkish> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media
[07:12] <Darkkish> >_>
[07:12] <eck> you should always umount the mount point
[07:12] <neozen> Darkkish: sudo umount /media
[07:12] <r4nge> Mar 18 20:40:49 r4nger dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
[07:12] <mjbrooks> eck: good point my bad
[07:12] <Darkkish> awesome, thanks neozen
[07:12] <r4nge> Mar 18 20:40:49 r4nger dhclient: can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases: Permission denied
[07:12] <Darkkish> who told me to umount /hda1?
[07:12] <neozen> Darkkish: and hope you didn't kill something
[07:12] <PWill> nmap localhost
[07:12] <Darkkish> funny guy.
[07:12] <Darkkish> neozen everythign is back to normal
[07:12] <PWill> crap. that's not the terminal.
[07:12] <mjbrooks> eck: but he wanted to undo his mounting of that device to get "everything": back to normal
[07:12] <Darkkish> thanks
[07:13] <r4nge> i'm wondering if this syslog error has anything to do with the port68 being open
[07:13] <r4nge> and not port 67
[07:13] <Darkkish> lol PWill go to bed :p
[07:13] <my-nick> whats the best/recommended partition apps for ubuntu
[07:13] <PWill> Darkkish: yeah, i should
[07:13] <neozen> my-nick: I've had good experience with gparted
[07:13] <PWill> 'night guys
[07:14] <neozen> my-nick: but that's just me
[07:14] <my-nick> okay
[07:14] <my-nick> thanx
[07:14] <eck> r4nge: it uses both, i'm not really sure under which scenarios though
[07:14] <neozen> my-nick: kparted is good too
[07:14] <PWill> my-nick: http://gparted.sf.net/
[07:14] <arejay> anyone know why 915resolution breaks beryl?
[07:14] <eck> i guess the server listens on 67 and the client listens on 68?
[07:14] <neozen> my-nick: if you're a gui and kde fan
[07:14] <Darkkish> night PWill
[07:14] <neozen> arejay: it does?
[07:14] <my-nick> i thot maybe there's other apps thats better than gparted
[07:15] <neozen> arejay: great....
[07:15] <mjbrooks> eck: something like that yeah
[07:15] <PWill> Darkkish: oh yeah. forgot i was going to bed...
[07:15] <neozen> arejay: I was hoping to run beryl on this card one day
[07:15] <r4nge> eck: this is the syslog entry... http://rafb.net/p/xXI42U34.html
[07:15] <eck> r4nge: also, if that is the case, then it is a bug in dhclient
[07:15] <ant> ha, i just installed auto915resolution.
[07:15] <eck> r4nge: ok, then run it is aroot?
[07:15] <neozen> !auto915resolution
[07:15] <my-nick> isnt kparted for kde?
[07:15] <preaction> my-nick: i've heard qtparted is good, but they're both using "parted" as a backend
[07:15] <ant> i don't like beryl anyways...
[07:16] <my-nick> or i could use it in gnome too?
[07:16] <r4nge> but is dhclient trying to get a new ip or what it it doing
[07:16] <neozen> u can use any app in any other desktop manager
[07:16] <eck> yeah, that's what a dhcprequest is
[07:16] <eck> it's a request to get a dhcp lease
[07:16] <neozen> ...what matters is how much you have to download in order to get it working
[07:16] <arejay> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[07:16] <arejay> direct rendering: Yes
[07:16] <novavon> hey
[07:16] <r4nge> hmm, but i dont want the ip to change so maybe i should just leave it
[07:17] <neozen> ie... for running kde apps in gnome you have to grab the kdelibs
[07:17] <neozen> and vice versa
[07:17] <eck> r4nge: um, are you trying to use dhcp or not?
[07:17] <arejay> weird. its a intel 910 and it was working perfectly with beryl prior to 915resolution
[07:17] <ant> fluxbox works fine with 915resolution.
[07:17] <neozen> ..and in xubuntu... to run either kde or gnome apps, you have to grab everything
[07:17] <neozen> lol
[07:17] <neozen> .....but... its slim... so I like it
[07:17] <novavon> does anybody know how to change the default emacs font?
[07:17] <r4nge> eck: my isp assigns the ip address, cable modem straight to the box
[07:18] <neozen> emacs??!!?! AHHH!?!?! ::runs and hides::
[07:18] <mjbrooks> eck: I don't think he understands DHCP
[07:18] <novavon> yeah
[07:18] <novavon> emacs
[07:18] <r4nge> whatever it's configured to do, it's ubuntu default right now
[07:18] <novavon> what's up with emacs?
[07:18] <Jaguar> novavon: They're just joking, those vim-lovers :P
[07:18] <r4nge> and the ip isnt static, it can change.. but never does
[07:19] <neozen> yes... I like vim
[07:19] <neozen> sorry
[07:19] <neozen> lol
[07:19] <killemall> my pc(core2duo) and wifes (celeronD) both support EM64T, so should we be using 64-bit ubuntu stead of the default 32bit ?
[07:19] <mjbrooks> r4nge: that's normal
[07:19] <eck> r4nge: just use the dhcp lease the cable modem gives out, it will be correct
[07:19] <novavon> Jaguar: so do you use emacs?
[07:19] <Jaguar> neozen: I do too personally, but not enough to scare someone hehe.
[07:19] <Jaguar> novavon: No, sorry :/
[07:19] <neozen> I think one shouldn't need a lisp-backed-OS in one's editor... but that's just me
[07:19] <r4nge> eck: so no need for dhcpclient running?
[07:20] <eck> you need a dhcp client to get a dhcp lease
[07:20] <jrandolph> i'm having problems getting an ATI card to work with ubuntu. my Xorg.0.log file is showing me this error: [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"... and cannot init AGP
[07:20] <neozen> r4nge: if you kill it... and something breaks.... don't b*tch about it to us
[07:20] <novavon> oh... anyone using emacs? I can't seem to have its default font changed, my current font looks all broken apart and it's hard to figure out the words
[07:20] <neozen> I'll put it that way
[07:20] <r4nge> heh, i dont bitch to anyone but myself :)
[07:20] <eck> r4nge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol
[07:20] <neozen> r4nge: AWESOME
[07:20] <PWill> !ohmy r4nge
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy r4nge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <PWill> !ohmy | r4nge
[07:20] <ubotu> r4nge: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:20] <ant> r4nge : just read a little bit about dhcp.. its easy to grasp
[07:21] <neozen> and knowledge is good for you
[07:21] <r4nge> pardon my language :/
[07:21] <neozen> r4nge: it happens
[07:21] <r4nge> will do
[07:22] <thedcm> h4y
[07:22] <thedcm> h4y
[07:22] <thedcm> h4y
[07:22] <r4nge> thx
[07:22] <LadyNikon> thedcm: dont repeat
[07:22] <thedcm> someone get me unbanned from #ruby-lang please :)
[07:22] <novavon> I'm having a difficult time trying to get the emacs font changed
[07:22] <PWill> thedcm: what?
[07:22] <LadyNikon> thedcm: seems like you should be banned
[07:22] <neozen> thedcm: ok... what'd u do
[07:22] <thedcm> they are being real jews
[07:22] <thedcm> dunno
[07:22] <novavon> i guess no one in here as an answer to my question
[07:22] <thedcm> I don't remember
[07:22] <thedcm> lol
[07:22] <ant> novavon : there are whole books about emacs
[07:22] <LadyNikon> ok
[07:22] <thedcm> it was a month or two ago
[07:22] <my-nick> is there any sound theme manager for gnome?
[07:22] <LadyNikon> new ban
[07:22] <neozen> we've got a live one here
[07:22] <PWill> !ops
[07:22] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[07:23] <helloyo2> if my wireless card is working in ubuntu how can i use those settings in another distro?
[07:23] <thedcm> ...
[07:23] <LadyNikon> swift
[07:23] <novavon> ant: yeah, I know I was checking if I could get any help from a person on irc
[07:23] <ant> novavon : type 'man emacs'
[07:23] <PWill> thank, Madpilot
[07:23] <LadyNikon> helloyo2: that really depends on the distro.
[07:23] <PWill> er, thanks
[07:23] <jrandolph> i just can not get my ATI card to work with ubuntu... is this a common problem? or do people eventually figure it out?
[07:23] <novavon> ant: alright, sure do
[07:23] <LadyNikon> PWill: to much WoW?
[07:23] <helloyo2> LadyNikon: trying to get it working in debian
[07:23] <ant> doesnt look like a geek is awake to answer your question right now
[07:24] <eck> novavon: i think the documentation is in texinfo format, not man...
[07:24] <my-nick> is there any sound theme manager for gnome?
[07:24] <PWill> LadyNikon: nah, I play TC:E
[07:24] <ant> oh, sorry.. bad advise
[07:24] <mjbrooks> jrandolph: depends on the card and the user ;)
[07:24] <LadyNikon> helloyo2: you can always try it and see.. i mean i if you can keep it generic enough
[07:24] <LadyNikon> no harm no foul
[07:25] <klus> neozen: how do i exit
[07:25] <jrandolph> well the user is a noob, and the card was top of the line 2 years ago
[07:25] <klus> neozen: X server
[07:25] <mEck0> One question: I have downloaded the latest version of Glade from their site. I unpacked the .gz, then ./configure, make, sudo make install. I wonder if Glade is installed in this directory or if it is installed where all other applications is?
[07:25] <helloyo2> LadyNikon: where are the settings held?
[07:25] <democracy> HeLo!
[07:25] <helloyo2> LadyNikon: and can i tell which driver it is using?
[07:25] <democracy> I am runing the ubuntus this good evening
[07:25] <mjbrooks> jrandolph: do you want to use the proprietary drivers from ATI or the free ones?
[07:25] <eck> mEck0: it will be installed to the configure prefix, probably /usr/local
[07:25] <roshman1182> trying to install ubuntu on a dell laptop and getting an error about a bad sector, but running the builtin windows disk checking utilities, no sector error was reported, any advice?
[07:25] <ant> i'm not too far from austin, tx
[07:25] <democracy> can someone plesae offer the ubuntu assisstance
[07:25] <neozen> klus: to restart X hit cntrl-alt-backspace
[07:25] <PWill> mEck0: it should be installed to/usr/local/
[07:26] <LadyNikon> helloyo2: thats depends on what you are trying to do.
[07:26] <democracy> i am new to the ubuntu operating paradigms
[07:26] <democracy> please assist me
[07:26] <neozen> klus: to exit... is flavor-dependant
[07:26] <klus> neozen: i dont want to restart it
[07:26] <PWill> democracy: shoot
[07:26] <ant> and i'm on a dell laptop..
[07:26] <democracy> i am seeking knowledge about this operating
[07:26] <mEck0> PWill, how can I check that? with whereis?
[07:26] <eck> mEck0: if you use --prefix when you run configure you can change where it installs to
[07:26] <democracy> and about the fine qualities of this apt
[07:26] <klus> neozen: i want to quit it
[07:26] <helloyo2> LadyNikon: i can't get the card to be picked up as a wireless card properly in debian
[07:26] <democracy> where can i find informationa bout apt
[07:26] <democracy> i am curiuos about this, how can it fetch the ifnormation?
[07:26] <neozen> klus: and drop to a terminal?
[07:26] <PWill> !apt
[07:26] <mEck0> eck, aha, but where should I install it? I want it where synaptic put programs
[07:26] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:26] <roshman1182> democracy, type man apt in the terminal
[07:26] <democracy> from where does this apt grab information?
[07:26] <neozen> klus: why?
[07:26] <democracy> and how can i trust this apt?
[07:27] <PWill> !apt >> democracy
[07:27] <jrandolph> jbrooks i think the proprietary drivers... but really anything that will give me 3d support would be nice
[07:27] <democracy> who developed this apt?
[07:27] <mjbrooks> lol
[07:27] <LadyNikon> helloyo2: you should be in #debian ;)
[07:27] <eck> mEck0: that is not a good idea -- official packages will usually go to /usr, compiled packages will go to /usr/local
[07:27] <klus> neozen: looks like that is what i have to do
[07:27] <helloyo2> LadyNikon: yeah, trying there too. thanks anyway
[07:27] <eck> mEck0: the problem is, what if you need an official ubuntu version of glad?
[07:27] <mEck0> eck, ah, okey
[07:27] <democracy> i have been told i should not trust the unknown packages
[07:27] <democracy> YET
[07:27] <eck> mEck0: if they are installed in separate places they won't conflict
[07:27] <neozen> klus: ::ponders:: don't know
[07:27] <mjbrooks> jrandolph: the channel #ati   has people more experienced than me
[07:27] <mEck0> eck, ok, I see
[07:27] <neozen> klus: never had to do it
[07:27] <jrandolph> whoah... thanks
[07:27] <democracy> i am unsure as to if apt is an unkown package or not
[07:27] <jrandolph> i had no idea
[07:27] <jrandolph> i'm off no
[07:27] <jrandolph> bow
[07:27] <democracy> this is needed to see if apt can be trusted
[07:27] <jrandolph> now
[07:27] <mjbrooks> jrandolph:  no problem
[07:27] <democracy> YET
[07:27] <novavon> apt-get grabs information from the sources that you specify on /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:27] <overrider> i have a 1280x800 display, and would really like to increase my console resolution. how can i find out which vga= parameter i need to use to do this?
[07:28] <neozen> democracy: apt can be trusted
[07:28] <mEck0> eck, so I would change the dir to /usr/local/glade ?
[07:28] <PWill> democracy: apt is an official debian package, it's fine
[07:28] <Darkkish> mk so
[07:28] <_cerberus_> democracy, so long as you've not changed your sources list you can trust eevrything from apt
[07:28] <Darkkish> i can't use cp
[07:28] <Darkkish> it doesn't work -_-
[07:28] <democracy> YES
[07:28] <democracy> BUT
[07:28] <neozen> democracy: its the sources that you have to pay attention to
[07:28] <eck> mEck0: um, /usr/local will look like a mini version of /. so you will probably see the glade libaries in /usr/local/lib
[07:28] <Anohaakten> Hey does anyone know of a program that allows you to webcam with an ichat user on AIM
[07:28] <democracy> how do i know these packages are not large viruses
[07:28] <ant> democracy : automatix is the package installer not to trust.
[07:28] <eck> and the binaary in /usr/local/bin and so forth
[07:28] <democracy> seeking my information like a hungry animal and selling it over the internet to complete strangers
[07:28] <Anohaakten> because I dont think GAIM has webcam ability
[07:28] <democracy> Will the UBUNTU do this?
[07:28] <democracy> or not?
[07:28] <Darkkish> it says "omitting directory: [whatever source] "
[07:28] <eck> mEck0: what you really want to do is put /usr/local in your path before /usr
[07:28] <democracy> i am very confused on this outstanding issue
[07:28] <roshman1182> democracy, if they made it into the default repositories in ubuntu, it is not a virus
[07:28] <neozen> I think... we have another winner
[07:28] <eck> mEck0: that way you will default to using the locally compiled versions
[07:29] <democracy> will the ubuntu log my information and send it to strangers?
[07:29] <_cerberus_> democracy, packages downloaded using pat come direct from official ubuntu  servers, unless you changed the sources list
[07:29] <roshman1182> democracy, to make into those repositories, it has been vetted by the community
[07:29] <ant> democracy : apt is the best thing to happen to linux.. imo
[07:29] <democracy> seeking to make the american money?
[07:29] <eck> mEck0: i think if you run echo $PATH you will see that this is already the case
[07:29] <PWill> democracy: no
[07:29] <mjbrooks> democracy: don't trust any package installer that comes from Redmond   ;)
[07:29] <neozen> ant: indeed
[07:29] <democracy> YET
[07:29] <mEck0> eck, ok
[07:29] <democracy> i have also heard that the novell is working with the ubuntu to do these things
[07:29] <novavon> democracy: no, in fact, you have total control over ubuntu linux
[07:29] <democracy> how is thiss possible?
[07:29] <mojo> overrider: http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[07:30] <overrider> thanks mojo
[07:30] <mjbrooks> democracy: how is what possible?
[07:30] <mEck0> eck,  $PATH
[07:30] <mEck0> bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[07:30] <Darkkish> communism
[07:30] <neozen> democracy: because they both have a common goal... to make linux better
[07:30] <democracy> mjbrooks: i am interested in installing my NVIDIA graphics card I purchased from the americas while i visit
[07:30] <democracy> i am concerned!
[07:30] <Darkkish> mjbrooks,  how is it possible that novell is workign with ubuntu?
[07:30] <democracy> very concerned!
[07:30] <mojo> overrider: np ... i was looking that up myself not too long ago
[07:30] <democracy> i heard that the nvidias have made these codes underlock
[07:31] <Darkkish> or maybe mjbrooks how is it possible that ihe has total control :p
[07:31] <ant> !nvidia | democracy
[07:31] <ubotu> democracy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:31] <Darkkish> nvm
[07:31] <democracy> that the ubuntus does not like the locked source code
[07:31] <Jaguar> !envy | democracy
[07:31] <ubotu> democracy: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[07:31] <lucas-> democracy: i can offer support
[07:31] <eck> mEck0: so that shows that /usr/local/bin will be searched before /usr/bin, which is what you want -- if you run 'which glade' (or hwatever the binary is named) you will see that you are using the one in /usr/local/bin
[07:31] <mjbrooks> Daaarkk: lol
[07:31] <Darkkish> how do i use CP?
[07:31] <democracy> that it not only disgusts the ubuntu
[07:31] <democracy> it also TAINTS the ubuntu!
[07:31] <democracy> can my ubuntu become TAINTED?!
[07:31] <neozen> democracy: lol .... no
[07:31] <ant> where do you hear all this??
[07:31] <democracy> YET
[07:31] <PWill> Daemonik: cp yourfile yournewfile
[07:31] <Anohaakten> anyone help?
[07:31] <Darkkish> how do i copy a whole directory from an NTFS to ~
[07:31] <lucas-> democracy: i can help you in exchange for some help
[07:31] <ant> where are you from that they are feeding you this propaganda??
[07:31] <democracy> i have heard that my ubuntu licence will become revoked if this becomes tainted!
[07:31] <Darkkish> it only wants to copy one file
[07:31] <democracy> how is this possible?
[07:31] <roshman1182> me thinks democracy is not a noob but someone trying to make a point
[07:32] <bobc> I've just tried upgrading from dapper to feisty, however my nvidia driver will not install. no errors, it just doesn't install nvidia.ko. I've removed and install nvidia-glx several times and it makes no difference. any ideas?
[07:32] <neozen> Anohaakten: what seems to be the trouble?
[07:32] <mEck0> eck, which glade-3:  /usr/local/bin/glade-3
[07:32] <PWill> Darkkish: cp -R /path/to/directory ~/
[07:32] <democracy> rosh! do not insult my herritage!
[07:32] <democracy> i am proud!
[07:32] <democracy> now
[07:32] <ant> roshman1182 : i agree
[07:32] <mojo> democracy: i think what you hear meaning "tainted" is that by using the proprietary nVidia drivers you are mixing non-free binary code with binaries derived from free/opensource programs
[07:32] <Anohaakten> My father has mac osx and uses ichat for aim and I have linux but we want to webcam, what is a program I could use?
[07:32] <democracy> i am concerned on this issue of TAINTING
[07:32] <eck> mEck0: so it looks like you're all set
[07:32] <roshman1182> democracy, insult your heritage?
[07:32] <Jaguar> !enter | democracy
[07:32] <ubotu> democracy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:32] <Anohaakten> because I dont think gaim has webcam support
[07:32] <democracy> mojo: yes thank you!
[07:32] <cafuego_> bobc: It's not in nvidia-glx, it's in restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:32] <novavon> democracy: if you're uncomfortable with ubuntu, there are many other linux distributions you can consider
[07:33] <Darkkish> PWill,  thanks
[07:33] <neozen> democracy: no one can revoke your license to ubuntu
[07:33] <PWill> guys, WHBT
[07:33] <democracy> mojo: i am concerned though! will the license for ubuntu be revoked?
[07:33] <mojo> democracy: some people want 100% free/libre code
[07:33] <neozen> democracy: no
[07:33] <mEck0> eck, but I wonder where my glade-3 is installed now? Because I think it is installed in ~/Downloads/glade-3 now, and thats isn't a good idea, or? I think it should be installed where programs should be? not in home
[07:33] <democracy> neozen: yes but i do not see this in writing
[07:33] <mojo> democracy: it does not work like that.
[07:33] <neozen> democracy: indeed
[07:33] <mojo> democracy: (the license)
[07:33] <democracy> neozen: i have heard about american scams like this
[07:33] <mjbrooks> democracy: it's in writing
[07:33] <Anohaakten> My father has mac osx and uses ichat for aim and I have linux but we want to webcam, what is a program I could use? neozen
[07:33] <l90bpm> for a second I thought you guys were talking about democracy player
[07:33] <democracy> american companies like this ubuntu lie in wait
[07:33] <mjbrooks> democracy: it's in the license
[07:33] <lucas-> democracy: i can sell you official business support
[07:33] <Anohaakten> because I dont think gaim has webcam support neozen
[07:33] <neozen> Anohaakten: ...hmmmm....
[07:34] <PWill> !v4l | Anohaakten
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v4l - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <DLB|Maximus> anyone here familiar with sysv-rc-config?
[07:34] <PWill> dang
[07:34] <neozen> Anohaakten: it does... but only with certain cards
[07:34] <ant> democracy : what operating system have you been using?
[07:34] <neozen> Anohaakten: just a sec
[07:34] <DLB|Maximus> i installed it a while ago and cant remember how to launch it
[07:34] <Anohaakten> neozen:  ok
[07:34] <bobc> cafuego; thanks, but I do have linux-restricted-modules-generic installed. I'll try removing and reinstalling that too. thanks
[07:34] <lucas-> democracy: are you interested? it includes remote hands
[07:34] <cafuego_> DLB|Maximus: Not really, does that do what 'update-rc.d' is for?
[07:34] <democracy> they seek out your business! they say the software is free! open! linux! freedom! but then they lie in wait and revoke at the last moment! just when you have become dependend on the fredom they take it away
[07:34] <democracy> i am worried about the ubuntu
[07:34] <democracy> will this happen?
[07:34] <DLB|Maximus> cafuego_: its used to manage services
[07:34] <cafuego_> bobc: You need the one specific to your currently running kernel.
[07:34] <Darkkish> PWill, now when i try to open it in ~ it says, "Permission Denied"
[07:34] <Jaguar> democracy: Actually, even if one day Ubuntu decided not to be free anymore, all previous version would remain free and they would be forced to publish all modules that fall under copyleft licenses regardless of their new licensing.
[07:34] <democracy> will one day they say: HALT!  no more license!
[07:34] <Darkkish> PWill, how do i fix that?
[07:34] <l90bpm> wtf?
[07:35] <cafuego_> DLB|Maximus: Then yes, use 'update-rc.d'
[07:35] <PWill> Darkkish: you will need to be root
[07:35] <mjbrooks> democracy: no they won't
[07:35] <democracy> lucas-: you say you offer protection?
[07:35] <neozen> Anohaakten: http://www.video4linux.net/
[07:35] <l90bpm> I must have missed something
[07:35] <ant> rofl
[07:35] <mojo> democracy: ubuntu is a distribution, canonical is a company that sponsors it, and i believe it is south african, not american
[07:35] <democracy> lucas-: will you protect me from the american scam?
[07:35] <mjbrooks> democracy: what operating system are you using?
[07:35] <roshman1182> trying to install ubuntu on a dell laptop and getting an error about a bad sector, but running the builtin windows disk checking utilities, no sector error was reported, any advice?
[07:35] <cafuego_> democracy: Can you stop trolling please?
[07:35] <PWill> Darkkish: run "sudo chown yourusername thefilesyou-just-copied"
[07:35] <Darkkish> PWill,  right but then what?
[07:35] <LadyNikon> !op
[07:35] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[07:35] <neozen> Anohaakten: you should be able to find a list of hardware and models that will work..... along with applications that support them there
[07:35] <democracy> cafuego_: i am concerned
[07:35] <Darkkish> PWill, ok thanks
[07:35] <LadyNikon> dern it sorry wrong channel
[07:35] <DLB|Maximus> cafuego_: well if i recall right it gave a list of ones set to start and such
[07:35] <lucas-> democracy: i can help you with this problem, that is no problem
[07:35] <democracy> i have recently installed the ubuntu
[07:35] <lucas-> democracy: there's just a minor fee
[07:35] <Madpilot> LadyNikon, ?
[07:36] <democracy> yet it came with no promise of freedom
[07:36] <eck> mEck0: it is installed in /usr/local/bin. and it doesn't matter where it is installed -- in fact, on servers where you do not have root access, you usually install to something like ~/local for the explicit reason that you don't have permission to do a system-wide install
[07:36] <Jaguar> !offtopic | democracy
[07:36] <mjbrooks> LadyNikon: love the nick BTW ;)
[07:36] <DLB|Maximus> cafuego_: you just had to check or uncheck boxes
[07:36] <democracy> and it claims to be free
[07:36] <ubotu> democracy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:36] <LadyNikon> Madpilot: sorry ment to use the op script on another server
[07:36] <lucas-> democracy: we offer free freedom, at no extra charge
[07:36] <LadyNikon> :S
[07:36] <cafuego_> democracy: Then you should read up on what you perceive to be the problems, not just come here and insist you can't use the software.
[07:36] <Madpilot> LadyNikon, ah, OK. np.
[07:36] <neozen> lucas-: ::grins::
[07:36] <cafuego_> DLB|Maximus: Well, there is System>Admin>Services
[07:36] <Anohaakten> ok thanks neozen
[07:36] <eck> mEck0: if you poke around in /usr/local you will see all the glade files in there, you can safely remove the ones in your home directory
[07:36] <ant> not only that, your not even listening to anyone.
[07:36] <neozen> Anohaakten: glad to be of help
[07:36] <mEck0> eck, aha, okey, no I understand, so I could remove the dir where the installation files are (in downloads)?
[07:37] <eck> yes, that is correct
[07:37] <bobc> cafuego: I have the restricted modules installed for my specific kernel linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-12-generic
[07:37] <DLB|Maximus> cafuego_: i was trying to see if networking is set to start at boot but dont see anything in there about networking.....
[07:37] <mlalkaka> Why are my C object files being called <target_name>-<file_name>.o, instead of just <file_name>.o, when created using the autotools (autoconf, automake, make, etc.)?
[07:37] <cafuego_> DLB|Maximus: ... which is the gnome applet to manage services, update-rc.d is cmsline and used non-interactively.
[07:37] <mEck0> okey, thanks a lot eck. I'm kind of new to this kind of stuff in linux :)
[07:37] <lucas-> neozen: are you interested?
[07:37] <lucas-> neozen: perhaps you and democracy can do a group buy/
[07:37] <neozen> lucas-: LOL
[07:37] <cafuego_> DLB|Maximus: No, it's not something a user can disable by default (ergo: networking is on ;-)
[07:37] <Darkkish> PWill, ok now when i try to open mIRC.exe (the file of the folder i just copied) under wine, i get another error "module not found"
[07:37] <mjbrooks> democracy: is it that hot down in florida that your mind is fried?
[07:37] <neozen> lucas-: for me ...there should be no price on freedom
[07:38] <cafuego_> bobc: Ok, cool. Then nvidia.ko *should* be present on the filesystem.
[07:38] <ant> the price of freedom is war...
[07:38] <lucas-> neozen: that's correct, there is no extra price on freedom
[07:38] <eck> mEck0: haha, if you're using glade now it's not too long before you learn autotools, and then you'll learn more about this than i know
[07:38] <PWill> Darkkish: that's a wine problem :)
[07:38] <PWill> Darkkish: i dunno, search the forums for "wine mirc"
[07:38] <Madpilot> mjbrooks, don't feed the troll, please
[07:38] <ant> !offtopic | ant
[07:38] <lucas->  neozen it comes with the package for no extra money
[07:38] <Darkkish> PWill, i don't have it when running out of my NTFS drive
[07:38] <DLB|Maximus> cafuego_: the problem is after reboot i had no internet access, issuing "/etc/init.d/networking restart" from command line brought my internet back....
[07:38] <neozen> troll?
[07:38] <cafuego_> DLB|Maximus: You can always run a quick 'sudo update-rc.d networking defaults'
[07:39] <PWill> Darkkish: what?
[07:39] <mjbrooks> PWill: Wine is never a problem as long as it's Zinfandel
[07:39] <bobc> cafuego: I agree. but in this case it just isn't. I just reinstalled the restricted modules and the nvidia driver still isn't there.
[07:39] <DLB|Maximus> cafuego: thanks
[07:39] <mjbrooks> maddler: apologies
[07:39] <Darkkish> PWill, when i do wine mIRC on my ntfs mount, mIRC runs fine, but i just can't save anything when i'm done
[07:39] <lucas-> troll? am i being scammed?
[07:39] <ant> why would you use wine for irc?
[07:39] <PWill> Darkkish: ah
[07:39] <cafuego_> bobc: Hrm. Not in /lib/modules/2.6.20-12-generic/volatile ?
[07:40] <neozen> ant: he's addicted to mirl
[07:40] <bullgard5> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8415/ shows that Ubuntu compiled two Ethernet modules in my kernel. I am surprised because in Debian Etch they could not co-exist on my computer. Could this fact be the cause that Ubuntu does not bring up the Ethernet after Suspend-to-Ram?
[07:40] <neozen> *mirc
[07:40] <mjbrooks> ant: appearently I need more wine for IRC than I thought
[07:40] <mjbrooks> ;)
[07:40] <ant> xchat is close isnt it?
[07:40] <PWill> Darkkish: here's a fix: # apt-get install xchat
[07:40] <neozen> ant: probably hasn't realized gaim can do IRC
[07:40] <PWill> :-P
[07:40] <Darkkish> not at all ant
[07:40] <Darkkish> ant mIRC has a built in language and it can do cool things... plus i don't know perl
[07:40] <ant> oh
[07:40] <PWill> Darkkish: what error exactly does it give?
[07:41] <l90bpm> did I see someone say that democracy player was from redmond??  say it ain't so.. :'(
[07:41] <ant> your a scripter..
[07:41] <Darkkish> wine: could not load L"Z:\\home\\nick\\mIRC\\mIRC.exe": Module not found
[07:41] <Darkkish> sorta ant :p
[07:41] <mojo> lucas-: about "trolls"  ...   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
[07:41] <Darkkish> PWill, wine: could not load L"Z:\\home\\nick\\mIRC\\mIRC.exe": Module not found
[07:41] <Samus_Aran> is there any way to burn a raw DVD image to a DVD-5 on Ubuntu ?
[07:41] <neozen> yeah
[07:41] <neozen> Samus_Aran: graveman
[07:41] <bobc> cafuego: hmmm, well, ok, there it is. I just looked in /lib/modules/2.6.20-12-generic/kernel/video
[07:41] <neozen> should do the job just fine
[07:41] <PWill> Darkkish: try just downloading it again, and saving it in your home folder
[07:42] <neozen> !graveman
[07:42] <ubotu> graveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-5-1 (edgy), package size 692 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[07:42] <neozen> I've had good experience with it
[07:42] <Darkkish> PWill,  yeah thats what i'll do i guess, but idk how to install in wine, i've never done it before
[07:42] <neozen> just ignore the "operation failed" messages
[07:42] <bobc> cafuego: it wasn't in volatile either, but apparently the latest reinstall of the restricted modules did install it because x is now starting ok
[07:42] <cafuego_> bobc: Did you run 'depmod -a' before trying to load it?
[07:42] <cafuego_> ok, cool then :-)
[07:42] <PWill> Darkkish: should be fairly easy
[07:42] <Darkkish> does wine always hang for you guys when you click the audio tab?
[07:42] <Samus_Aran> neozen: will take a look at it to see what it is a front-end to, but that is a GUI app and I am looking for a console command for use in a script
[07:42] <bobc> cafuego: no, but it does seem to be working. much thanks!
[07:43] <mojo> Samus_Aran: if it is DVD5 .iso file, just right-click in nautilus and write to disc.  If it is DVD9, you need to convert it with something like K9COPY or some such
[07:43] <neozen> Samus_Aran: ah
[07:43] <neozen> Samus_Aran: its a front end to many tools....
[07:43] <Samus_Aran> mojo: it is a raw image, not ISO9660 filesystem
[07:43] <overrider> how can i control to what runlevel ubuntu is booted? id like to boot into console for a change
[07:43] <PWill> Darkkish: yeah. does it crash for you?
[07:43] <neozen> Samus_Aran: I can snag you a list if you want
[07:43] <Samus_Aran> overrider: edit /etc/initramfs-tools/
[07:43] <Samus_Aran> overrider: oops, tab completion error
[07:43] <ant> Darkkish : not to push you away but you'll probly get better help in a wine channel.
[07:43] <cafuego_> overrider: Ubuntu doesn't do that via runlevels byd efault.
[07:43] <mojo> Samus_Aran: sry
[07:43] <Samus_Aran> overrider: /etc/inittab
[07:44] <Darkkish> PWill,  yeah i was heading there :p
[07:44] <cafuego_> overrider: You cna change the default runlevel via inittab, BUT you will then need to remove the gdm strtup link in that runlevel.
[07:46] <mEck0> eck, hmm, now when I started Glade, I see that there is no Options in this version :S Hmm, why? Do I need to install some more package?
[07:46] <overrider> hmm there is no inittab file in /etc for me, sorry. is the file somewhere else?
[07:46] <kraypius> how do I reformat an ext3 partition in the ubuntu installer?
[07:46] <neozen> !growiofs
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about growiofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <ant> overrider : 'updatedb', then 'locate inittab'
[07:47] <kraypius> http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3233/w2u302wy.png
[07:47] <Samus_Aran> neozen: I just tried graveman and it has no option for burning a DVD from an image
[07:48] <bobc> cafuego: I did a reboot to make sure it would still work and... no nvidia.ko module to be found anywhere.
[07:48] <Joshooa> Hey I need help fixing my hdb partition before Ubuntu freezes again
[07:48] <Samus_Aran> overrider: if you don't have /etc/inittab then your system won't function properly
[07:48] <yellow_chicken> for 6.10, which pci wireless card works out of the box from the iso cd? no apt-get or what so ever
[07:49] <ant> yellow_chicken : i have an intel2200 that worked out of the box
[07:49] <cwillu> window manager that uses absolutely no window decorations, or provide any real services.  Can anyone name that?
[07:49] <Darkkish> the wine support chan is empty
[07:49] <mjbrooks> Samus_Aran: you're trying to find an app to burn a DVD image?
[07:50] <neozen> Samus_Aran: I believe growisofs is what you want
[07:50] <ant> Darkkish : did you try searching the wine forums for mirc?
[07:50] <neozen> Samus_Aran: that should allow you to burn the image
[07:50] <yellow_chicken> ant: ah.. the chip set intel2200, but which brand? i'll ebay it
[07:50] <ant> intel
[07:50] <greig_> hi all, im just upgrading from 5.10  to 6.06, once its dloaded will it install and keep running as normal?
[07:50] <Darkkish> ant, it works fine on my NTFS, it has to do with somethign else, like i cp'd it wrong or somtehing
[07:50] <neozen> Samus_Aran: but I'm not sure as I've never tried to burn from the command line.... only from within graveman
[07:50] <overrider> ant, i swear i dont have /etc/inittab , strange
[07:51] <Darkkish> wait
[07:51] <ant> yes you do
[07:51] <Darkkish> i found out what the problem is
[07:51] <mjbrooks> Samus_Aran: GnomeBaker
[07:51] <ant> Darkkish : glad to help :P
[07:51] <Darkkish> chown didn't work
[07:51] <neozen> mjbrooks: he wants a command-line burner
[07:51] <mjbrooks> neozen: oooooooooooh
[07:52] <mjbrooks> forget what I said to mark it unread
[07:52] <mjbrooks> lol
[07:52] <neozen> !growisofs
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about growisofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <bullgard5> When clicking on a name of a local html file Firefox opens although in Gnome Menue System > Settings > Preferred Applications >  Web browser I have set 'Epiphany'. How to make that Epiphany will open the local html file?
[07:53] <neozen> well all
[07:53] <neozen> I'm out
[07:53] <neozen> I have much to do today
[07:53] <neozen> and need my sleep
[07:53] <neozen> farewell
[07:53] <ant> late
[07:53] <Darkkish> bullgard5, there is a chance that firefox is set as the defualt editor for html and is higher on the access list than epiphany, i am not sure how to fix this though.
[07:53] <mEck0> why isn't there a project options in glade 3 which was in glade 2?
[07:54] <Joshooa> Can I get help fixing my hard drives?
[07:54] <Joshooa> I broke it last time and Ubuntu kept freezing on boot and gave me a CPU soft error thingy
[07:54] <bullgard5> Darkkish: I hear your message. I am still looking for a change.
[07:55] <mjbrooks> bullgard5: here's what you do
[07:55] <Darkkish> where are the images for openoffice.org located?
[07:55] <cwillu> Joshooa, what did you do?
[07:55] <mjbrooks> bullgard5: right click the file and choose open with
[07:55] <Joshooa> Well I'm not sure
[07:55] <srrn>        
[07:55] <cwillu> Joshooa, what were you trying to do
[07:56] <Joshooa> cwillu: Before, I did something to get my 200G hard drive that nothing is mounted to a folder I made, hdb1
[07:56] <seraph> how do I get apt to reinstall a package and put all the original files in place?
[07:56] <mjbrooks> browse to Epiphany in the list and check the "Remeber this association" checkbox
[07:56] <koala^> hi, I just tried loading the Ubuntu live cd into my puter, and it looks good, but I couldn't find how to close the darn thing!!!!!
[07:56] <seraph> apache-common refuses to put back rewrite.load even though I've reinstalled it with apt-get install --reinstall
[07:56] <srrn> ?
[07:56] <Joshooa> and then tried partitioning it into like, 3 partitions, and then unmounted it cause I couldn't use it, and then manually deleted the 3 folders I made, and it froze, and on boot it wouldn't load most of the time, or sometimes it would, and then randomly freeze, and I couldn't use my mouse or type or anything
[07:56] <Joshooa> Now, it seems to work I don'tknow why, just left it off a day
[07:57] <yellow_chicken> srrn: who?
[07:57] <mjbrooks> bullgard5: get that?
[07:57] <Joshooa> Just use my 200GB hard drive
[07:57] <bullgard5> mjbrooks: in what list?
[07:57] <seraph> nvm
[07:57] <koala^> anyone any ideas as to how to close ubuntu linux if you are using the live cd?
[07:57] <Joshooa> I have like 30-50GB of stuff on my roomies comp from before I did my install, I don't trust my Linux usage yet to put it on my comp without risk of losing it
[07:57] <overrider> ant, no inittab in /etc -> http://www.pastebin.ca/401290 . locate inittab reports /usr/share/gnome/help/desktopguide/sample/inittab_disablectrlaltdelconsole and /usr/lib/upstart/migrate-inittab.pl
[07:57] <greig_> is ubuntu ver 6.06 still ok to use?
[07:57] <mjbrooks> bullgard5: a window should have popped up
[07:57] <Samus_Aran> mjbrooks: I'm trying to find a command line tool to burn a raw file to a DVD
[07:58] <bullgard5> mjbrooks: I will give it a try.
[07:58] <cwillu> Joshooa, I have to admit, I still have no idea what you're trying to do :p
[07:58] <Daemonik> koala^, You mean shut it down? Just click on System then click logout, click restart or shutdown, it's easy.
[07:58] <cwillu> Joshooa, do you have more than one drive you want running right now?
[07:58] <mjbrooks> Samus_Aran: have you tried growisofs?
[07:58] <Joshooa> cwillu: I have a 40GB I have Ubuntu installed on, I have a 200GB that I am doing nothing with and want to use
[07:58] <Samus_Aran> mjbrooks: it isn't an iso9660 filesystem, so I didn't think growisofs could help me
[07:58] <alecclews> join #ubuntu-au
[07:59] <koala^> Daemonik well I tried system, and couldn't see logout
[07:59] <Joshooa> cwillu: Possibly remove the 40GB and replace with the 200GB, and only use that, partitioned into root, home, bin, var, swap, or whatever else I may need
[07:59] <cwillu> Joshooa, okay;  did you do anything mkfs wise or via a ui tto format the drive?
[07:59] <Samus_Aran> mjbrooks: it is an encrypted ext2 filesystem in a file
[07:59] <Joshooa> I used GParted
[07:59] <Darkkish> Joshooa, you can get disks from seagate, maxtor, and WD that will mirror your drives if thats what you're trying to do
[07:59] <Joshooa> but it didn't give me a mount point
[07:59] <Joshooa> SO I made one, media/hdb1
[07:59] <koala^> Daemonik this was the live cd version, not loaded to haard disk
[07:59] <cwillu> Joshooa, k;  do you know what type of fs?
[08:00] <mjbrooks> Samus_Aran: groisofs supports DVD recording
[08:00] <Joshooa> I made it ext3
[08:00] <cwillu> Joshooa, and did you put an entry into /etc/fstab?
[08:00] <Joshooa> No
[08:00] <Joshooa> I didn't do anything right I'm sure
[08:00] <cwillu> Joshooa, is the drive plugged in right now?  it's still formatted however it was before, right?
[08:00] <Samus_Aran> mjbrooks: I will take a look at it, to see if it supports burning a non iso fs
[08:00] <cwillu> (i.e., after gparted)
[08:00] <Joshooa> cwillu: Yes, SHOULD be blank, ext3, unmounted
[08:00] <cwillu> Joshooa, you know about pastebin?
[08:01] <cwillu> Joshooa, pastebin me the contents of /etc/fstab
[08:01] <Joshooa> But, before this, it was NTFS, and then I had it mounted, and then redid it to ext3, never used it, didn't think it worked, deleted the folder I used, and crash
[08:01] <mjbrooks> Samus_Aran: If you have it on your system type 'man growisofs' in the terminal
[08:01] <cwillu> !pastebin
[08:01] <mirra> anyone know of a good email/sms monitoring solution that is free - for web sites
[08:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:01] <Joshooa> cwillu: That's a website right?
[08:01] <cwillu> yep
[08:01] <Joshooa> cwillu: I think I saw someone use it once, I never have
[08:02] <cwillu> just go to the site (linked above by ubotu), paste in the text of /etc/fstab, and tell me the url it gives you
[08:02] <Ademan> hey i've got a question, i HAVE to compile this package from source, and i was wondering, is it standard for make install to install to /opt ?
[08:02] <koala^> Anyone else here used the live cd version of Ubuntu?
[08:02] <Ademan> koala^: most of us have
[08:02] <cwillu> Ademan, /usr/local is probably better
[08:02] <Joshooa> cwillu: On my way
[08:02] <cwillu> Joshooa, k
[08:02] <Joshooa> Got it copied, will paste and give you link
[08:03] <overrider> ant, seems like ubuntu new version dont use inittab anymore
[08:03] <Joshooa> Thanks for telling me about this too, i've wanted to know
[08:03] <Ademan> cwillu: any way i can force it to install to there?
[08:03] <cwillu> overrider, /etc/event.d/tty's
[08:03] <Joshooa> I just got my first good Linux books today, Linux+ and Linux Desktop Pocket Guide, woo
[08:03] <cwillu> Ademan, depends on that package I think;  something about package prefix?
[08:03] <mjbrooks> overrider: that's a joke right?
[08:03] <eck> overrider: that is correct, it has been deprecated by upstart
[08:04] <Ademan> cwillu: ah yeah that rings a bell, thanks
[08:04] <cwillu> mjbrooks, edgy and on doesn't create an inittab, it's all handled natively by upstart
[08:04] <Joshooa> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11000/
[08:04] <Joshooa> heh, brainfuck
[08:04] <cwillu> mjbrooks,  it's a little bit annoying though, I find;  not as convenient changing 6 files when I'm changing 6tty's :)
[08:04] <cwillu> Joshooa, thx
[08:04] <overrider> mjbrooks, no joke
[08:05] <mjbrooks> cwillu: man I'm behind the times
[08:05] <cwillu> lol
[08:05] <arfy> Hi all, got berryl working and looks good. Now trying to create a login session, but it isn't showing up as xgl, but rather foo, and it complains about an error with no Exec line in /etc/X11/sessions/xgl.desktop. However, it's there! any ssuggestions?
[08:05] <cwillu> mjbrooks, it'll use it if you make it first, I'm leaning that way myself
[08:05] <Joshooa> cwillu: I know that the sda is my usb key, works just fine, mounts on boot and is on my desktop, everything hdb doesn't show up and I can't use, and I don't think is even mounted or exists anymore
[08:05] <AzMoo> Hey, I'm trying to install Ubuntu and it keeps telling me that, "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources." It's strange, because I've had ubuntu on this box before. The only thing I changed was the hard-drive and the DVD-Drive, but I've used the DVD drive to install ubuntu server on another box.
[08:05] <Samus_Aran> mjbrooks: there is no detail at all what it will do, but "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=myfile.img" looks like it might work
[08:06] <cwillu> Joshooa, k
[08:06] <Samus_Aran> mjbrooks: I guess I will make a coaster to find out
[08:06] <mjbrooks> Samus_Aran: lol
[08:06] <yellow_chicken> i did a memtest, and it failed on test#5, is that significant?
[08:06] <cwillu> Joshooa, delete the hdb lines, and add /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ext3 rw,user,[whatever options you want here] 
[08:06] <mjbrooks> cwillu: kind of difficult to make it first in a fresh install
[08:07] <eck> yellow_chicken: um, i think any failures are significant
[08:07] <Joshooa> cwillu: Okay, what options do I want
[08:07] <AzMoo> yellow_chicken, any failures are significant.
[08:07] <cwillu> Joshooa, if there's only one user, I like to just put uid=<username> after rw, nice and simple :)
[08:07] <mEck0> eck, do you know why the build-button and the project options doesn't exist in glade 3?
[08:07] <Joshooa> cwillu: For now I just want it useable, once I finish my book I plan to reinstall with partitions, right now I just want it to work and not crash my system
[08:07] <cwillu> Joshooa, one sec
[08:07] <eck> mEck0: i don't know, i have not used glade before
[08:07] <koala^> Ademan well, how are you supposed to shut down the live cd version?
[08:07] <mEck0> ahh okj
[08:07] <avalon> Can anyone recommend a piece of software that grabs files of a specific kind from a website? The example I'd need is images off an Image board.
[08:08] <eck> avalon: wget
[08:08] <Ademan> there's a little door with a red arrow in the upper right
[08:08] <AzMoo> avalon, wget or firefox downthemall plugin
[08:08] <eck> avalon: its usage is kind of complicated, but there are a lot of guide on the internet (and of course the man page)
[08:08] <avalon> B-) Thx.
[08:08] <cwillu> Joshooa, /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ext3 defaults,uid=<username>,gid=<username> should do it
[08:08] <cwillu> Joshooa, and then sudo mount hdb1
[08:09] <yellow_chicken> eck: it's new memory i bought, ddr2, 512mb .  -> compatiable with pc2-5300, ddr2-667/533/400.  my other slot use 533 mhz
[08:10] <eck> yellow_chicken: if memtest finds an error then that basically means it put something in memory and then read it back and got something else... i'd run a few more passes to make sure, but it is probably an error with the dimm
[08:11] <c0llisi0n> Hello there.
[08:11] <c0llisi0n> I'm having trouble getting direct rendering to work.
[08:11] <yellow_chicken> eck: i don't think the sticks are compatiable.  i'll remove original one, and just test the new one
[08:12] <c0llisi0n> Beryl doesn't seem to be functioning correctly and I was hoping that turning direct rendering on would help.
[08:12] <locke> Can anyone help me, I can't get zsnes to 'make', it'll configure but then when i try to make it says command not found
[08:12] <cwillu> locke, is build-essential installed already?
[08:12] <cwillu> !beryl > c0llisi0n
[08:13] <locke> cwillu: what is that?
[08:13] <cwillu> package
[08:13] <cwillu> synaptic
[08:13] <locke> let me check
[08:13] <cwillu> install it :p
[08:13] <eck> yellow_chicken: that's probably a good idea. you might want to test them both individually, in case it is a problem with the old one
[08:13] <yellow_chicken> eck: the old one is few, did a test when i first bought this laptop
[08:13] <eck> yellow_chicken: this might be helpful too http://www.memtest86.com/tech.html#trouble
[08:13] <locke> cwillu:  ah, no it seems it wasn't :)
[08:14] <cwillu> locke, it's essential :p
[08:14] <cwillu> for building stuff
[08:14] <locke> sounded like it lol
[08:14] <cwillu> locke, I kinda wish it was included by default, but ya
[08:14] <locke> i wonder why it isn't
[08:14] <Samus_Aran> well, I burned the image with k3b and then checked the output of the command from the debug window: /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=Encrypted_DVD.img -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -speed=8 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:64m
[08:14] <Ademan> hey cwillu any idea how to remove things from /usr/local?  I mean specifically un-doing a make install
[08:14] <bullgard5> mjbrooks: I right-click on gfdl-5.html. A context menu opens containing the items 'Open with Firefox Web Browser', 'Open with Epiphany Webbrowser', 'Open with another application'. I choose 'Open with another application...'. A dialog 'Open with' appears telling me "gfdl-5.html and other files of type >>htmlDocument<< open with:" I choose 'Epiphany Webbrowser' and Open. Epiphany will open my gfdh-5.html file. I close Epiphany. I left-click
[08:14] <eck> yellow_chicken: the page says that erros can be reported by memory incompatibility
[08:14] <Samus_Aran> it seemed to work, so I guess that's what I will be using
[08:14] <Samus_Aran> night all
[08:14] <locke> oh no, it errored :(
[08:15] <yellow_chicken> eck: that's what i am afraid of.
[08:15] <cwillu> Ademan, again, depends on the package (hence synaptic and friends coming into existance); make uninstall might do something sensible
[08:15] <locke> g++: argument to '-L' missing   |      make: *** [zsnes]  Error 1
[08:15] <cwillu> Ademan, if you haven't done any other customization, it should be safe to delete any files you find in /usr/local though
[08:15] <mjbrooks> bullgard5: you seem to have run out of room there    lol
[08:16] <yellow_chicken> eck: vmware is giving me problems after i installed memory.
[08:16] <cwillu> Ademan, that directory is reserved for the system owner
[08:16] <sciboy> Hey guys, what's your favourite software for recieving podcasts?
[08:16] <yellow_chicken> eck: my guest OS failed
[08:16] <cwillu> locke, did you ./configure again?
[08:16] <democracy> DUDE
[08:16] <yellow_chicken> eck: but reboot few times, it went away
[08:16] <democracy> i just downloaded ubuntu for free!
[08:16] <democracy> hahaha
[08:16] <locke> oh, no =x
[08:16] <democracy> it didnt even ask for a serial
[08:16] <democracy> what a bunch of tools
[08:16] <cwillu> democracy, that's the point
[08:16] <cwillu> yay for being easily baited :p
[08:16] <Ademan> cwillu: hrm ok, i know, it's just i needed a svn version :-)
[08:16] <democracy> cwillu: yah, torrents are pretty sweet
[08:17] <mjbrooks> cwillu: don't feed the trolls
[08:17] <cwillu> mjbrooks, I haven't flamed in a while, please can I?
[08:17] <mjbrooks> cwillu: go nuts
[08:17] <locke> yay it seems to have worked ^^;
[08:17] <cwillu> :p
[08:17] <Joshoo1> cwillu: It froze as soon as I opened the terminal to try and edit fstab
[08:17] <cwillu> woot
[08:17] <locke> yay, thanks
[08:17] <Joshoo1> cwillu: Then it tries to mount swap and something else and it froze again after that, and couldn't get online
[08:17] <cwillu> Joshoo1, it kinda sounds like you might have more serious issues
[08:17] <bullgard5> mjbrooks: I do not understand your remark. Please say it in other words.
[08:17] <Joshoo1> cwillu: I'm not sure why it's working now
[08:18] <c0llisi0n> locke, why not try installing ZNES from the package manager?
[08:18] <Joshoo1> cwillu: Yeah, well it started when i messed with the partitioning though
[08:18] <c0llisi0n> I just did it and it worked perfectly.
[08:18] <mjbrooks> bullgard5: what you typeed got truncated
[08:18] <cwillu> Joshoo1, did the whole machine freeze, or just gedit?
[08:18] <c0llisi0n> Question: How do I create a shortcut on gnome to a program?
[08:18] <cwillu> c0llisi0n, create a launcher
[08:18] <ShaiGar> excuse my ignorance please, but where do i get games for the Znes?
[08:18] <Joshoo1> cwillu: Everything, and sometimes it freezes on load, sometimes in login, sometimes just whenever, first when i opened terminal, then when I opened firefox to check internet, wh ich was dead
[08:18] <mjbrooks> bullgard5: what did you type after "I left click"?
[08:19] <cwillu> c0llisi0n, if you need to do anything more than run a single line, make a script in your home directory (or ~/bin) that does it, and link the launcher to that
[08:19] <cwillu> Joshoo1, :/
[08:19] <Joshoo1> cwillu: Yeah, can't move mouse, hit keys, do anything, even turn on and off scroll lock or caps
[08:19] <bullgard5> mjbrooks: I left-click on gfdl-6.html. Again Firefox  will open this html file!
[08:19] <cwillu> Joshoo1, you have another computer nearby to that?
[08:19] <eck> ShaiGar: you can't really get them legally, but you can find a lot of sites online that you can download roms from... just goole it
[08:19] <Joshoo1> cwillu: No
[08:19] <Nighteye> Hello
[08:19] <Joshoo1> cwillu: Only other computer I have are not mine, windows, and no IRC
[08:19] <mjbrooks> bullgard5: did you check the checkbox to remember that setting?
[08:20] <democracy> hahahahaaha http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[08:20] <democracy> the internet is awesome
[08:20] <c0llisi0n> cwillu, how do I create a launcher?
[08:20] <koala^> re.... can I (with ubuntu) be the server for a windows computer in a wireless network?
[08:20] <ShaiGar> who cares about legally
[08:20] <Nighteye> confidential
[08:20] <democracy> too bad that site doesn't have osx and vista though
[08:20] <billy> greetings fellow earth_creatures.
[08:20] <cwillu> c0llisi0n, right click on the desktop
[08:20] <bullgard5> mjbrooks: Wait a minute...
[08:20] <eck> ShaiGar: http://www.romnation.net/
[08:21] <democracy> ShaiGar: yeah i know its illegal. but i dont care.
[08:21] <locke> c0llisi0n: i didn't see it in synaptic
[08:21] <democracy> its not like they can catch me anyway
[08:21] <cwillu> bah, lost my focus
[08:21] <ant> overrider : you there?
[08:21] <overrider> ant, yes
[08:21] <bullgard5> mjbrooks: In 'Open with' there does not exist a checkbox.
[08:21] <mneptok> democracy: Ubuntu ISOs are illegal?
[08:21] <Joshoo1> cwillu: What should I add to fstab, it's working now
[08:22] <cwillu> democracy, ubuntu is free; Joshoo1 are you rebooting each time you try something then?  c0llisi0n:  any luck?
[08:22] <democracy> mneptok: um, yeah. duh, its a torrent
[08:22] <democracy> torrents are illegal
[08:22] <ant> overrider : you got me looking.. ubuntu abandoned inittab.. it uses upstart instead
[08:22] <mneptok> democracy: ummm ... no.
[08:22] <locke> lol no they aren't
[08:22] <Cubicism> democracy: no.
[08:22] <overrider> ant, found there is no inittab anymore in ubuntu now, its rather upstarts, but still didnt find how to enable to boot to console
[08:22] <overrider> ant, yes
[08:22] <ant> ha
[08:22] <Joshoo1> cwillu: No, just whenever it freezes, as usually I don't have to do anything
[08:22] <cwillu> democracy, lol, that's almost as funny as the guy on slashdot who though linux ran under windows :p
[08:22] <democracy> dude they throw people in jail all the time for torrents
[08:22] <ant> overrider : me neither
[08:22] <Cubicism> democracy: no, they don't.
[08:22] <Joshoo1> cwillu: This is a record right here, over 3 minutes, woo
[08:22] <democracy> Cubicism: um, yes.
[08:23] <locke> democracy: the only thing you can get put in jail for is using torrents for copyrighted files
[08:23] <cwillu> democracy, no, they throw people in jail for trading illegal stuff, regardless of how they do it
[08:23] <mneptok> democracy: they throw people in jail for stabbing people. doesn't make knives illegal.
[08:23] <locke> democracy: not for using torrents...
[08:23] <democracy> locke: and ubuntu isn't copywritted?
[08:23] <cwillu> democracy, torrents, email, piles of hd's in a car
[08:23] <locke> democracy: it's free
[08:23] <ant> overrider : i read a forum where someone said they did it through grub but did not explain how
[08:23] <c0llisi0n> Can I change the "Applications" title to the menu bar to something else (shorter)?
[08:23] <democracy> locke: its copywritted, duh.
[08:23] <koala^> re.... can I (with ubuntu) be the server for a windows computer in a wireless network?
[08:23] <democracy> locke: you just said torrents are only legal if its not copywritted
[08:23] <ant> where are the ops at?
[08:23] <locke> democracy: it's shareware ?
[08:23] <democracy> locke: and ubuntu is copywritted
[08:23] <democracy> locke: so its illegal to download ubuntu from torrents, duh
[08:24] <mneptok> democracy: the name and logo are copyrighted. and that has nothing to do with cost.
[08:24] <cwillu> democracy, the licence on ubuntu is that you're not allow to not let other people copy it
[08:24] <locke> i didn't say only ...
[08:24] <Joshoo1> democracy: No it's legal, it's free open source software
[08:24] <cwillu> yay!!  feeding trolls!!
[08:24] <mneptok> democracy: it is not illegal to download Ubuntu via torrents
[08:24] <democracy> Joshoo1: so? its still copywritten, and that makes it illega to download through torrents.
[08:24] <mjbrooks> cwillu: lol
[08:24] <Joshoo1> democracy: Go to the ubuntu site, it asks you to use torrents to help save their bandwidth
[08:24] <Joshoo1> democracy: No, it's not
[08:24] <mjbrooks> cwillu: you running gnome?
[08:24] <Joshoo1> democracy: It's not copywrites that make them illegal, it's stealing money
[08:25] <democracy> Joshoo1: yeah, but you still need a serial
[08:25] <Joshoo1> democracy: And it's the logo from the Ubuntu company they care about
[08:25] <cwillu> mjbrooks, mostly, although I've got a rather unusual setup I'm trying to get working
[08:25] <Joshoo1> democracy: WHAT? For Ubuntu? No you don't
[08:25] <cwillu> mjbrooks, got a 6 seated monster happening :)
[08:25] <Darkkish> so
[08:25] <eck> blah blah blah, democracy is just trolling and understands the concept of foss perfectly well, this is totally off topic
[08:25] <Joshoo1> democracy: Download, install, it's now Winblows
[08:25] <No1Viking> Bought a new graphic card and other things. A Geforce 7300GS. Now I cant play Wolfenstein ET since the game does not start. I think it has to do with the resloution. Any great ideas out there?  =)
[08:25] <democracy> Joshoo1: its software
[08:25] <mneptok> democracy: you're either really misinformed, or a deliberate troll.
[08:25] <Darkkish> wine only works with .exe files, not other windows files?
[08:25] <mjbrooks> cwillu: nice
[08:25] <Joshoo1> democracy: And?
[08:25] <democracy> mneptok: dude i use a cracked ubuntu
[08:25] <democracy> mneptok: i know what im talking about
[08:25] <cafuego_> democracy: Can you stop trolling please?
[08:25] <mneptok> democracy: you're on crack
[08:26] <locke> Hm, now to try installing whatever I need to change my windows partition to writable
[08:26] <Darkkish> cracked? ubuntu is free...
[08:26] <cwillu> mjbrooks, I'm just cursing the lack of actual dualheaded support in ati cards
[08:26] <democracy> mneptok: i get software updates, all that stuff, just like you paid users
[08:26] <democracy> mneptok: i even get support
[08:26] <Joshoo1> democracy: Have you even installed Ubuntu?
[08:26] <democracy> Joshoo1: yes
[08:26] <mneptok> democracy: really?
[08:26] <democracy> Joshoo1: i used the apt-get crack
[08:26] <mjbrooks> cwillu: do you get the option to save the setting when you right click on a file and choose open with in gnome?
[08:26] <locke> There is no pay version noob lol
[08:26] <ant> stop asking him questions...
[08:26] <cafuego_> democracy: Ubuntu ahs no paid users, only paid support. This support does *NOT* include updates - those are free anyway.
[08:26] <mneptok> democracy: call the support line. now. i'm waiting.
[08:26] <Joshoo1> democracy: You're retarded then
[08:26] <democracy> Joshoo1: thats real mature, man
[08:27] <cafuego_> democracy: Now please stop trolling.
[08:27] <Joshoo1> democracy: It doesn't have a code or a crack, I'm sorry, I'm blunt
[08:27] <democracy> Joshoo1: just because you realize all that money you wasted was pointless doesnt mean you have to take it out on me, man
[08:27] <mneptok> democracy: i'm a Senior Support Analyst for Canonical. i'm waiting ...
[08:27] <cafuego_> !ops democracy | trolllllllll
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops democracy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <democracy> mneptok: no youll call the cops
[08:27] <Joshoo1> democracy: What money? On my free OS? Oh yeah man what a waaste
[08:27] <cwillu> mjbrooks, no, but it adds the app to the recently used list that shows up in the top context menu
[08:27] <l90bpm> what a doofus
[08:27] <cafuego_> grr
[08:27] <cwillu> mjbrooks, properties|open with lets you set the default, and available alternatives
[08:27] <ant> bout time..
[08:27] <cafuego_> mneptok: ta!
[08:28] <Joshoo1> woo
[08:28] <c0llisi0n> Can I shorten the name of the Gnome menu bars?
[08:28] <EADG> :)
[08:28] <cafuego_> mneptok: Cna I buy indemnity against such morons from Canonical? ;-)
[08:28] <Joshoo1> Sorry everyone, I gotta a little outta hand with that insult there, I hope none of you were offended
[08:28] <mjbrooks> cwillu: ah   different that KDE  lol
[08:28] <ant> it started feeling like aol in here.
[08:28] <No1Viking> Bought a new graphic card and other things. A Geforce 7300GS. Now I cant play Wolfenstein ET since the game does not start. I think it has to do with the resloution. Any great ideas out there?  =)
[08:28] <mjbrooks> bullgard  you get that?
[08:28] <cwillu> mjbrooks, I've been meaning to seriously try kde, I had it installed on my test machine, and then I had to lend it out
[08:28] <Joshoo1> ant: Good one, lol
[08:28] <eck> c0llisi0n: you can replace the gnome stuff with just an icon, sort of like in windows
[08:28] <cwillu> mjbrooks, that was 4 months ago
[08:28] <mneptok> cafuego_: sure. you pay us, we contact your ISP and get your link disconnected. problem solved.
[08:29] <cafuego_> mneptok: <heh>
[08:29] <mjbrooks> cwillu: I find it more responsive
[08:29] <eck> c0llisi0n: in the add to panel there is an option for it
[08:29] <c0llisi0n> eck, is there a guide somewhere for it? Can I change mohe icon (like Applications to Apps)?
[08:29] <mirra> anyone know any good and free website monitors..email / sms alerts/
[08:29] <c0llisi0n> eck, thank you.
[08:29] <eck> c0llisi0n: i don't think you can just change the strings (well, not easily anyway)
[08:29] <cwillu> mjbrooks, I kinda got that sense;  I just got rubbed the wrong way by some live cd's I tried earlier;  I found the common taskbars very very ugly
[08:29] <cwillu> cluttered rather
[08:29] <mjbrooks> cwillu: though I have a soft spot for enlightenment  ;)
[08:29] <cwillu> mjbrooks, heh
[08:29] <cwillu> don't we all
[08:30] <c0llisi0n> eck, I do not see an option to edit the icon.
[08:30] <ant> i thought i was the only one that still used enlightenment.
[08:30] <l90bpm> hey mirra, why not cut em' off at the router?
[08:30] <cwillu> c0llisi0n, click on the icon itself in properties
[08:30] <mjbrooks> cwillu: I was running e16 over KDE for a while
[08:30] <Sp4rKy> enlightenment powaaa :)
[08:30] <eck> c0llisi0n: add to panel > main menu. that is about the best you can do
[08:30] <mirra> l90bpm, what?
[08:31] <l90bpm> nm..  thought you were wanting to monitor what your kids were doing
[08:31] <mirra> ohh .. no
[08:31] <cwillu> c0llisi0n, nvm what I said, I think you're talking about something else
[08:31] <c0llisi0n> Nope, I'm not seeing an option for that. I'm looking to change the Ubuntu icon next to "Applications."
[08:31] <l90bpm> was gonna say, just block them at the router
[08:31] <kraut> moin
[08:31] <l90bpm> kids are the best reverse engineers on the planet
[08:31] <Sp4rKy> mjbrooks: ant what repo do you use ?
[08:31] <mjbrooks> mirra: you want to monitor if the site is up and email you if its not?
[08:31] <cwillu> c0llisi0n, I know you can do it (after all, ubuntu does it against gnome), just not dead sure where
[08:31] <ant> i still use e16
[08:32] <locke> Are there any authorized ntfs-3g packages?
[08:32] <eck> c0llisi0n: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11004/
[08:32] <ant> cant find an e17 repo that still works.
[08:32] <mirra> mjbrooks, yes..sms/text alert would be great too..though my phone does have an email address I could just use
[08:32] <eck> c0llisi0n: my roommate did that just the other day, so i have the instructions for it :-)
[08:32] <mirra> mjbrooks, i am trying to find a free service..everything I found just looks like spam or garbage
[08:32] <Sp4rKy> ant: ohh, so you don't know edevelop/dunnewind repo :)
[08:32] <mjbrooks> mirra: www.nagios.org
[08:33] <ant> i tried it.. apt times out
[08:33] <mirra> yea I saw that but I don't want to run the service myself
[08:33] <Sp4rKy> ant: i think you tried it just some days ago ?
[08:33] <mirra> then I need to have my computer on 24/7
[08:33] <ant> i tried it just tonite.
[08:33] <ant> had to go with fluxbox :/
[08:33] <Sp4rKy> ant: dunnewind.net server had some issue
[08:33] <mjbrooks> mirra: then how do you expect to have it monitor?
[08:33] <Sp4rKy> ant: it should works now
[08:33] <mirra> mjbrooks, there are a ton of sites that offer it
[08:34] <ant> oh?
[08:34] <Sp4rKy> yep
[08:34] <mirra> mjbrooks, i just want to find a reliable one that isnt spam or garbage
[08:34] <Sp4rKy> did yo utest both dunnewind & edevelop ?
[08:34] <ant> yep
[08:34] <ant> they said something about a public key.
[08:34] <ant> an error
[08:34] <Sp4rKy> yep
[08:34] <mjbrooks> mirra: you either have to host it yourself or pay for it    I've yet to hear of a reliable free one
[08:35] <Sp4rKy> ant: are you using edgy ?
[08:35] <ant> yep
[08:35] <mjbrooks> mirra: your hosting company might offer it for the sites you pay them to host
[08:35] <Sp4rKy> ant: http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/e17blog-edgy_en.php/post/2007/03/10/Enlightenment-Repositories-for-Ubuntu-Edgy-Eft
[08:36] <ant> thanks, i was going to have to look for it
[08:36] <Sp4rKy> np :l)
[08:36] <WorldDomination> hiho
[08:36] <c0llisi0n> eck, THANK YOU. :D
[08:36] <Joshoo1> So... if my hdb isn't working at all, and it's not mounted, should I have any /media/hdb* folders?
[08:36] <locke> How come the file system of my external hard drive shows up as Unknown? =x
[08:36] <eck> c0llisi0n: you got lucky :-)
[08:36] <mjbrooks> ant:  one sec  I'll see what I have for e17
[08:37] <Sp4rKy> ant  , and they works (i use it)
[08:38] <locke> or anyone know if there are any authorized ntfs-3g packages, the last one i installed seemed to keep my external hard drive from mounting =x
[08:39] <mjbrooks> ant: I have the same as sp4rky   though I know of another one if you use Fedora ;)
[08:39] <ant> Sp4rKy : thanks a lot.. i was frustrated bout the whole thing earlier
[08:39] <ant> mjbrooks : just using edgy.. thanks though
[08:40] <Sp4rKy> ant: mjbrooks they works for Ubuntu (dapper,edgy,feisty)
[08:40] <mEck0> is there someone who has used Glade? I need some help
[08:40] <Sp4rKy> ant: np :) contact me if you have issue with them :)
[08:40] <ant> Sp4rKy : you a developer?
[08:41] <mjbrooks> ant: I'm in FC now, but this  will be Feisty soon ;)
[08:41] <Sp4rKy> ant: i'm one of the 2 maintainer of those repo :)
[08:41] <ant> good deal.
[08:41] <Sp4rKy> :)
[08:42] <ant> i really thought no one was using e anymore. was dissapointed
[08:42] <DawnLight> hello!
[08:42] <DawnLight> will anyone write a little script for me? i don't know any programming. i have written exactly in technical terms what the script should do (text editing) here: http://pastebin.ca/401304. it should be very short. i will appreciate it very much!
[08:44] <clickstart> i was wondering about a gaming issue/any help?
[08:44] <Joshooa> So, my computer keeps freezing, and I have to reboot, but that usually doesn't fix it, but if I actually turn it off for a while, it seems to, how do I go about finding and fixing this problem?
[08:44] <mjbrooks> DawnLight: that one liner didn't work?
[08:44] <ant> Joshooa : sounds like your overheating.
[08:45] <Joshooa> ant: No
[08:45] <ant> you need a new fan
[08:45] <Joshooa> ant: But yeah that would do it too
[08:45] <clickstart> it has got something likely to do with the udates
[08:45] <Joshooa> ant: No
[08:45] <MaximusBrood> Hello.
[08:45] <MaximusBrood> Is it possible to 'nice' a command to a negative value, so it gets a higher priority, without the command running with root privileges?
[08:45] <Joshooa> ant: Unless it magically suddenly started over heating and it's been working fine all this time, and my room is freaking cold anyway, but no it's not a heat issue
[08:46] <pedro> hi
[08:46] <clickstart> again it is likely do to udates
[08:46] <clickstart> udates
[08:46] <ant> Joshooa : type 'acpi -V'
[08:46] <clickstart> updates
[08:46] <clickstart> lol
[08:46] <ant> Joshooa : it'll tell you your cpu temp
[08:46] <Joshooa> Thermal 1: ok, 40.0 degrees C
[08:46] <Joshooa> Well I JUST turned it on after being of like 24 hours
[08:46] <Joshooa> I don't think it'll over heat in a few minutes
[08:46] <Uber_newbie> yoyoyo
[08:47] <locke> mine is 49 degrees C :)
[08:47] <Joshooa> Cool command to know though thanks
[08:47] <clickstart> no issues there
[08:47] <Uber_newbie> hey all what command can i use to detect my video card
[08:48] <DawnLight> no, mjbrooks, it didn't change a thing i think
[08:48] <H264> Hi
[08:48] <l90bpm> ok, heres a stupid question..  say I want to connect to Stormchat Network (/server irc.stormchat.org:6667) using GAIM or Xchat and I wanted to go to #ad_buddies   "How would I go about doing that?"  Sorry about the n00bianess :-/
[08:49] <locke> make an account for the server?
[08:49] <mjbrooks> DawnLight: dod you replace "myfile" with the name of your file?
[08:49] <ant> Joshooa : if you don't think its hardware you can trial and error by not running programs you are running when it happens.. i guess
[08:49] <cypherdelic> THANKS FOR THE T-SHIRT AT THE CEBIT TO UBUNTU STAFF! :)
[08:49] <cypherdelic> the guys from micorosft did really liked it
[08:49] <Joshooa> ant: It dies while trying to load though, before I can do anything
[08:49] <ant> oooh
[08:49] <l90bpm> new to IRC entirely
[08:49] <H264> 190bpm: /join#<channel>
[08:49] <Joshooa> ant: And I get weird swap and hard drive check stuff sometimes too
[08:50] <DawnLight> of course mjbrooks, come here if you may, i'm with someone on this just now, #helpdawn
[08:50] <locke> l90bpm: ctrl+a in the buddy list and make another account for the other server
[08:50] <billy> Recommendations for online music streamer (like last.fm)?
[08:50] <Joshooa> ant: But sometimes I can get into Ubuntu, and it freezes at login, or sometimes I get in, but can't get online, and then it'll freeze, or sometimes like now I'll get online, but I don't know what will make it freeze anytime
[08:50] <l90bpm> I'll give it another shot, thanks
[08:51] <Re3el> anybody recomend a irc client ??
[08:51] <mneptok> Re3el: GUI or CLI?
[08:51] <ant> maybe bad drive? or memory, you can trial and error with the memory sticks
[08:51] <Umulius> client for what ?
[08:51] <Re3el> mneptok Im using unbuntu right now..  Im newbie to linux..    xchat
[08:51] <Umulius> irssi is text based very nice
[08:52] <ant> its gotta be hardware
[08:52] <Umulius> xchat is easy
[08:52] <Re3el> GUI i guess  :s
[08:52] <pgan002> gaim is an irc client, graphical
[08:52] <Joshooa> ant I am like 99.999% positive this is not a hardware issue
[08:52] <Umulius> kvirc is very mirc like'
[08:52] <Re3el> im used to mirc in iwndows
[08:52] <mneptok> Re3el: i like jIRCii for a GUI client
[08:52] <Joshooa> ant Hardware settings yes, hardware itself no
[08:52] <H264> I have 64bit 7.04 on my iMac, from the install the eathernet worked quite fine, untill I restarted not too long ago after a bunch of updates...
[08:52] <ant> Joshooa : i'm reaching anyways.. should wait for a real geek to wake up.
[08:52] <l90bpm> what is the difference between alias and screen name?
[08:53] <Joshooa> ant It started when I messed around with my hdb stuff, and I don't know what I'm doing, so It hink it was related to that somehow
[08:53] <ant> Joshooa : if it was a config issue it would happen at the same time all the time i would assume
[08:53] <Re3el> thx mneptok :)
[08:53] <clickstart> can anyone help with gaming???????????????????????????
[08:53] <clickstart> sound related issue
[08:53] <Joshooa> ant Yeah, but I think it's trying to fix itself but has a read error or something, maybe, I don't know, I did get a bug error once
[08:53] <ant> !ask | clickstart
[08:54] <ubotu> clickstart: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:54] <H264> I know that the computer it is connected to is getting the signal from DHCPDISCOVER, but it is not receaving it for some reason
[08:54] <clickstart> okie lol thx
[08:54] <MaximusBrood> Is it possible to 'nice' a command to a negative value, so it gets a higher priority, without the command running with root privileges?
[08:54] <l90bpm> In GAIM, alias is the same as screen name? or no?
[08:55] <locke> l90bpm:  It's like a nickname, not the screen name itself
[08:55] <clickstart> my sound card works fine with movies, music etc.... but i try to play a specific windows based game DOOM3 and the sound is all messed u
[08:55] <l90bpm> so you can leave it blank if you like?
[08:55] <locke> Yea
[08:55] <Joshooa> ant One time it said, during the boot up process before any graphics came up   17179659.264000  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0
[08:55] <l90bpm> ok, sorry about that.. never done alot of chatting
[08:56] <pgan002> anyone know how I can set window icons in metacity so that they show in the task list?  For example, xterm and dillo have the same icons (the "unknown app" icon), and it is hard to distinguish them when switching windows.
[08:56] <locke> Can someone help me install ntfs-3g? =x
[08:56] <ant> Joshooa : have you googled that error?
[08:56] <Joshooa> yeah
[08:56] <Joshooa> didn't find anything useful
[08:56] <clickstart> i have installed wine and went through all processes
[08:57] <Joshooa> If I do a fresh install, and have both hda and hdb formatted to ext3, and install to hda, shouldn't hdb automatically be visible and on my desktop?
[08:57] <overrider> hello, i still cant figure out how to get ubuntu to boot into console mode, so i can start gnome only when i need it. any pointers? i guess i could just uninstall ubuntu-desktop, but synaptic says that might break a proper upgrade later on
[08:57] <l90bpm> see you all in a few, thanks for all your help (curiosity has the best of me)
[08:58] <ant> Joshooa : try http://marc.theaimsgroup.com for newsgroups
[08:59] <genii> Anyone aware of fibre-channel adapter drivers in *buntu/debian for Selectron stuff? I happen to have come across some adapters
[08:59] <clickstart> my sound card works fine with movies, music etc.... but i try to play a specific windows based game DOOM3 and the sound is all messed u
[08:59] <clickstart> i have installed wine and went through all processes
[08:59] <AzMoo> Anybody know why the installer is telling me that, "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources." ?
[09:00] <ant> clickstart : doom3 is supported fully under linux.. no reas on to use wine
[09:00] <clickstart> i did that folder install also
[09:00] <clickstart> it works
[09:01] <Helmi> what is a good player for listening to mp3-streams under gnome?
[09:01] <clickstart> but sound i still garbled/not clear at all
[09:01] <ant> totem-xine
[09:01] <ant> i think
[09:01] <clickstart> helmi; beep maybe
[09:02] <Helmi> beep?
[09:02] <clickstart> yu
[09:02] <pgan002> azmoo: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list file say?
[09:04] <H264> I have 64bit 7.04 on my iMac, from the install the eathernet worked quite fine, untill I restarted not too long ago after a bunch of updates...
[09:04] <H264> I know that the computer it is connected to is getting the signal from DHCPDISCOVER, but it is not receaving it for some reason
[09:04] <AzMoo> pgan002, this is the installation disc
[09:04] <zen> How do I fix this?  "tar: linux-source-2.6.20/include/linux/hil.h: Cannot open: No such file or directory" "tar: Skipping to next header"
[09:04] <zen> I got it when trying to extract the source
[09:05] <AzMoo> zen, sounds like the file is corrupt. Try downloading it again or testing it with the md5sum
[09:05] <clickstart> i have installed wine and went through all processes
[09:05] <clickstart> i did that folder install also
[09:05] <clickstart> it works
[09:05] <clickstart> but sound i still garbled/not clear at all
[09:05] <AzMoo> genii, that's possible too :p
[09:06] <locke> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!    makedev libhal1 hal hal-device-manager libhal-storage1 pmount   Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?     Does everyone get this when trying to install ntfs-3g and is it worth it?
[09:06] <zen> AzMoo, nah...was a superuser problem...I had no write permission in that dir
[09:06] <clickstart> i give up
[09:07] <clickstart> any answers yet???
[09:07] <ant> clickstart : i am sure there are plenty of forums concerning doom3 sound issues.. read some
[09:07] <clickstart> i cant find any forum answer
[09:07] <AzMoo> clickstart, why don't you just run the linux version?
[09:08] <clickstart> nothing on sound thjat i havent already tried
[09:08] <Ademan> clickstart: i had the same problem, lemme see if i can digg up the fix
[09:08] <clickstart> there is no linux version for doom 3
[09:08] <clickstart> thanx
[09:08] <clickstart> ademan
[09:08] <ant> clickstart : i told you there was 30 mins. agp
[09:09] <ant> agp*
[09:09] <pgan002> AzMoo, sorry, I've never seen that.  Maybe it is a corrupt CD? Have you tried burning another one and trying again?  What version of Ubuntu is this?
[09:09] <ant> ago*
[09:09] <ant> bah
[09:09] <clickstart> thx ant
[09:09] <Ademan> clickstart: actually there is a linux version of doom3
[09:09] <clickstart> sorry
[09:09] <AzMoo> clickstart, yes there is. Doom3 has a native linux port.
[09:09] <AzMoo> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/
[09:09] <clickstart> ok
[09:09] <ant> i asked you why you were running it in wine in the first place
[09:09] <ShaiGar> :( damnit, i wanted to go to thailand this sucks
[09:09] <ant> you just have to copy the pak files from the disk
[09:10] <clickstart> i tried to get wine to resolve sound issue
[09:10] <ShaiGar> apparently defence personel cannot go there anymore
[09:10] <clickstart> but didnt work
[09:10] <Ademan> clickstart: which sound driver are you using for wine? alsa or oss?
[09:10] <Ademan> and whichever one you're using you might consider trying the other
[09:10] <ant> clickstart : its redundant to use wine to play a game that is supported under linux anyways.
[09:10] <ShaiGar> Cedega
[09:10] <clickstart> i installed the linux version sorry i guess
[09:10] <AzMoo> pgan002, it's not corrupt. I've used it to install before and it passes the integrity check. It's the latest Ubuntu Server, which I'm pretty sure is Edgy?
[09:11] <clickstart> still issue with sound
[09:11] <Ademan> ant: sadly, wine+windows game   sometimes gets better performance than the actual linux port (a testament to the poor quality of linux ports)
[09:11] <ShaiGar> from transgaming, i just registered for a copy... heh now i've no idea how to use it to play Hitman: Contracts
[09:11] <sib_> hey can someone give me the URL for the alpha ISOs of ubuntu? I can't find them with the website redesign
[09:11] <locke> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!    makedev libhal1 hal hal-device-manager libhal-storage1 pmount   Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?     Does everyone get this when trying to install ntfs-3g and is it worth it?
[09:11] <ZoOlMaN> hi all
[09:11] <pgan002> AzMoo, yeah that is Edgy.  But sorry, I've never installed Ubuntu server.
[09:11] <Ademan> sib_: it's the topic of #ubuntu+1
[09:11] <sib_> ademan: thatnks
[09:11] <sib_> thanks*
[09:11] <ZoOlMaN> is it possible to make a Live CD with my current system
[09:12] <AzMoo> pgan002, I just tested, it does it with the standard Ubuntu 6.10 as well.
[09:12] <romeomajk> How do I know wich device was mounted? I know I can read the files from /media/usbdisk/ but what device under /dev is it?
[09:12] <genii> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/
[09:12] <ZoOlMaN> from a way its a backup & the other its live?
[09:12] <Ademan> locke: you get that if you're using an unofficial repository and you haven't registered the gpg key iirc, anyways it's no big deal
[09:12] <AzMoo> pgan002, but that's cool. Seems like pretty much nobody knows :p
[09:12] <clickstart> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/Doom3FrontPage i went throgh this
[09:12] <Ademan> clickstart: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/#head-8c36163f1dfc3a253ef72c0f821b0b0dd2fc17b1   has the fix that fixed my problem, i'm not sure if it's relevant to you though
[09:12] <clickstart> still got sound issues
[09:13] <clickstart> and the hel of ubuntu forum
[09:13] <Frogzoo> romeomajk: mount
[09:13] <Ademan> hrm, my south park season 9 dvd has managed to crash totem, mplayer and vlc....
[09:14] <Ademan> wow, no libdvdcss2
[09:14] <welemski> hi guys
[09:14] <Ademan> geeze, the things i forget in fresh installs...
[09:14] <romeomajk> Frogzoo Ahh thansk :)
[09:14] <Ademan> we;ll see if that fixes it
[09:14] <clickstart> i just used the wine version built in
[09:14] <l90bpm> still can't seem to get it right.. first I tried it as  /server irc.stormchat.org:6667 then I tried it as irc.stormchat.org:6667, this is the result:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11005/
[09:14] <clickstart> cedega costs $$$$
[09:14] <JP_Pialasse> hello
[09:15] <pgan002> AzMoo, what hardware are you trying to install on?  Could it be a hardware mismatch?
[09:15] <welemski> does anyone knows a good software for ubuntu to call a landline using the modem?
[09:15] <Ademan> clickstart: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb  follow the instructions there to get the newest versions of wine and automatic updates for it
[09:15] <JP_Pialasse> is anybody has successfully applied chroot patch on openssh for a ubunut 6.10 ?
[09:15] <clickstart> ill try the fix Ademan
[09:15] <clickstart> thx
[09:16] <ant> i still disagree with using wine to play doom3
[09:16] <AzMoo> pgan002, It's a P3 800 with 128MB of RAM, 30GB Seagate hdd, msi dvd burner, intel 815EEA mobo. It just makes no sense to me.
[09:16] <Ademan> ant: yeah, but what are you gonna do? :-p
[09:16] <ant> heh
[09:16] <pgan002> welemski, how about wvdial?
[09:17] <Ademan> this dvd is starting to drive me nuts
[09:17] <JP_Pialasse> nobody has done a chroot for ssh access ?
[09:18] <ant> they say in feisty there are some bug fixes for totem and such
[09:18] <Ademan> totem is the devil either way
[09:18] <Ademan> mplayer fails at it too though :-(
[09:18] <pgan002> welenski, have you seen the programs listed when you type "apt-cache search ppp" on the command prompt?
[09:18] <clickstart> ok enough already ant, sorry linux distro works, i just have sound issue still
[09:18] <Ademan> clickstart: is the sound for the rest of your system ok?
[09:19] <ant> clickstart : then maybe id doesnt like your card.
[09:19] <welemski> pgan002, can I use it call my mum's house using my pc?
[09:19] <ant> "id"
[09:19] <pooyak> Hi
[09:19] <Ademan> i'd check the sample rates for the sound that doom3 is pushing out, the link i sent dealt with taht http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/#head-8c36163f1dfc3a253ef72c0f821b0b0dd2fc17b1   and your problem sounds similar to the one i had
[09:19] <Ademan> !dvd
[09:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:20] <welemski> im not looking  for internet dialer, im looking for a software so i can call my mums house withouth using my phone only my modem... because I bought a headseat with a mic and I want to record some conversation...
[09:21] <Paddy_EIRE> im getting quite a flickering screen in my ubuntu install but I have already set the horiz & vert refresh rates what else could be causing the problem
[09:21] <l90bpm> shitcickles!>:o
[09:21] <pgan002> welemski, sorry, I misunderstood.  How about "ekiga"?
[09:21] <gordonjcp> welemski: you could use gismo, or ekiga
[09:21] <ant> welemski :doesnt ekiga do something like that?
[09:21] <locke> yay i got  umm writing to ntfs to work! :)
[09:21] <gordonjcp> you'll need a VoIP provider
[09:21] <clickstart> it was choppy sound
[09:21] <worksucks79> Hi everyone
[09:21] <worksucks79> just installed ubuntu
[09:21] <l90bpm> hi
[09:21] <worksucks79> total newb
[09:22] <welemski> isn't ekiga a voip manager?
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> worksucks79, stick with it, ubuntu rocks
[09:22] <bh_> exim is panicing for one thing
[09:22] <welemski> i just want to call a local landline number...
[09:22] <gordonjcp> welemski: ekiga is a voip client
[09:22] <gordonjcp> worksucks79: how are you finding it?
[09:22] <worksucks79> yeah,  I been playing with it a bit, but tonight, I formatted my windows drive, and going to stick it out
[09:22] <worksucks79> can't get wine working though
[09:23] <Ademan> hahaha, my southpark dvd has now conquered xine as well....
[09:23] <Ademan> i guess there's no hope for it...
[09:23] <cwillu> can anybody name a window manager that allows manual placement of windows (via command line), and no decorations?
[09:23] <worksucks79> anyone have a good wine tutorial?
[09:23] <cwillu> worksucks79, what are you trying to do?
[09:23] <OMGLAZERS> !nvidia
[09:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:23] <Ademan> cwillu: that's a rather interesting request
[09:23] <cwillu> Ademan, I'm a rather interesting person :p
[09:24] <topato> hi, I had a 23" screen plugged in while installing ubuntu -- I've now moved the server and the only monitor I have available is 17" and complains about the resolution being out of range.
[09:24] <worksucks79> cwillu, get it installed
[09:24] <topato> can I reset the resolution from the console or something?
[09:24] <welemski> i just want to call a local landline number...
[09:24] <cwillu> Ademan, got a 6 seated monster, but ati dualheaded cards don't actually come up as seperate screens (:0.1, :0.2, etc)
[09:24] <Ademan> i wouldn't be suprised if some of the more lightweight window managers like maybe icewm or fluxbox support that sort of thing
[09:24] <cwillu> worksucks79, enable universe/multiverse, it should be in synaptic
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !cnr
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cnr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <cwillu> Ademan, neither would I, but I'd like to not try 5 of them if somebody already knows  :)
[09:25] <mneptok> cwillu: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/
[09:25] <pgan002> cwillu, try dwm and wmii
[09:25] <Ademan> worksucks79: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb   i reccomend you follow the instructions here to get the newest version of WINE and automatic updates to it
[09:25] <pgan002> they definitely support it
[09:26] <Ademan> lol, offering someone ratpoison
[09:26] <Paddy_EIRE> im getting quite a flickering screen in my ubuntu install but I have already set the horiz & vert refresh rates what else could be causing the problem
[09:26] <worksucks79> wine:
[09:26] <worksucks79>   Depends: libgphoto2-2 (>=2.3.0) but 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[09:26] <worksucks79>   Depends: libgphoto2-port0 (>=2.3.0) but 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[09:27] <pgan002> anyone know how to set window icons for programs like xterm, so that they are displayed in the window list?
[09:27] <Ademan> Paddy_EIRE: video card? and do you have a crt?
[09:28] <Ademan> pgan002: i know how to set the window icon in the source code :-)
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Ademan, Im using an Ati radeon 9250 with an lcd flatscreen
[09:28] <welemski> does anyone knows a good software for ubuntu to call a local landline using the modem? and not voip...
[09:28] <poningru> pgan002: the windows list?
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Ademan, as far as I know the card is installed correctly as beryl seems to work fine
[09:28] <cwillu> neat, I just got recommendations for 5 different windows managers
[09:28] <Ademan> Paddy_EIRE: ah, was this a problem before beryl?
[09:29] <cwillu> how this is funny is left as an exercise to the reader :p
[09:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Ademan, although even without beryl still have flickering
[09:29] <Ademan> cwillu: don't use ratpoison, their website had screenshots of emacs :-p
[09:29] <cwillu> thanks though :)
[09:29] <cwillu> lol
[09:29] <cwillu> no vi?
[09:29] <Ademan> nope
[09:29] <cwillu> definately will keep my distance :p
[09:29] <Ademan> :-p
[09:30] <bullgard5> How can I erase the item 'Firefox' in my shortcut menu that appears when right-clicking on a html file name?
[09:30] <Ademan> Paddy_EIRE: hrm, there's a #ati channel here, though it's fairly dead
[09:30] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[09:30] <cwillu> bullgard5, properties on the file, open with tab
[09:30] <Ademan> i need to go to sleep but if you make a paste of your xorg.conf maybe someone else could help you
[09:30] <Ademan> bullgard5: right click and hit properties, and the tab "open with" should let you remove them
[09:31] <Ademan> oh geeze
[09:31] <Ademan> lol
[09:31] <cwillu> :p
[09:31] <Ademan> slow slow slow slow
[09:31] <Ademan> i guess it really is past my bedtime
[09:31] <Ademan> night
[09:31] <clickstart> listen to him/her do not use ratpoison
[09:31] <eagleclaw> ..
[09:31] <cwillu> clickstart, bad experience?
[09:31] <clickstart> Ademan, thx, i will try to understand the doc
[09:31] <mirra> i want to enable ssl for checking squirrel mail..i enabled mod_ssl and added Listen 443 to ports.conf..and I changed the squirrelmail conf file..do I have to do anything else?
[09:32] <clickstart> yes.........
[09:32] <clickstart> i have a 64 bit pc, not a mac
[09:32] <Ademan> mirra: isn't there a squirrel mail channel somewhere?
[09:32] <clickstart> based on the docs no
[09:32] <mirra> is there?
[09:33] <welemski> does anyone knows a good software for ubuntu to call a local landline using the modem? and not voip...
[09:33] <Ademan> mirra: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat     apparently #squirrelmail
[09:33] <mirra> thanks
[09:33] <Ademan> k nowsleep
[09:34] <Ademan_do_not_di> meh
[09:34] <ant> sudo sleep -h now
[09:34] <bullgard5> cwillu, Ademan: It works all right. Thank you!
[09:34] <clickstart> Ademan: thx much, i am using 64 bit version of Ubuntu and wine works not all the time, but ant must understand that it is necessary to use the emulator with some games even if there is a linux port, thx for not being so one track minded
[09:34] <clickstart> i have bookmarked the page and will let ya know how it goes
[09:35] <danny500> Yo
[09:35] <ant> clickstart : why would you use an emulator for a game that was open-source coded for linux??
[09:35] <clickstart> cause the open source coding is not always functional
[09:36] <yellow_chicken> i have eth0 and eth1, how can i take advantage of it?
[09:36] <ant> ???
[09:36] <clickstart> i have other games that were coded that didn't work
[09:36] <ant> doom3 is fully functional, i promise you.
[09:36] <clickstart> wine is provided to us for free anyways
[09:36] <ant> like what
[09:36] <yellow_chicken> shooting two cat5 into the same router will not make internet connection any faster
[09:36] <clickstart> my sound still doesn't work properly
[09:36] <jakoblaursen> How do I get NetworkManager to work with wpa?
[09:37] <clickstart> quake 4 works fine though
[09:37] <clickstart> ???
[09:37] <ant> do you run quake under wine?
[09:37] <clickstart> and it worked on wine too, and has a linux distro
[09:37] <clickstart> no but i did try
[09:38] <scumbag> i very often have trouble when opening files from the web (video audio TORRENTS) i dont always want to use the program ubuntu suggests but i dont know where to find the other executebles on my filesystem.. right now im haveing trouble using Deluge-torrent.. dont know how to open with it
[09:38] <clickstart> have removed it from wine
[09:38] <clickstart> it works fine as linux distro
[09:38] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, what are you trying to do?
[09:38] <ant> so why use wine?
[09:38] <clickstart> i tried the same steps too as suggested by id3
[09:38] <billy> scumbag:  did you install it manually or with apt-get/Synaptic?
[09:38] <scumbag> apt get
[09:38] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: nothing, i have two nic, don't know what to do with it
[09:38] <scumbag> i mean synaptic
[09:38] <billy> scumbag:  try looking in /usr/bin for it.
[09:39] <clickstart> you do not listen too welll huh
[09:39] <scumbag> ok
[09:39] <Audio_1> hey, i am having problems with the GRUB loader. after installing ubuntu i select win xp, but it never leaves GRUB, it just hangs at "stating up..."
[09:39] <scumbag> thanks
[09:39] <clickstart> or read too well
[09:39] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, unless you have two network connections, or want to use the machine as a firewall or some such, probably not much to be done with it
[09:39] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: removed this nic from old machine, now this machine will have two, if i am going to install it, but don't see a reason
[09:39] <billy> Audio_1:  been resizing the XP partition?
[09:39] <jakoblaursen> WPA on NetworkManager? How?
[09:39] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, I've got a bunch of machine's with two, but that's for the aformentioned reasons
[09:39] <Audio_1> yes, i used gparted
[09:39] <cwillu> there's no reason to have two if its just a workstation
[09:39] <billy> Audio_1:  bad boy.
[09:39] <clickstart> i have resolved many issues butr this one is bothering me
[09:39] <Audio_1> i was afraid of this
[09:40] <scumbag> billy: would usr/bin/ be my "program files" folder in linux?
[09:40] <ant> tell me of an issue you resolved playing a linux ported game using wine
[09:40] <billy> Audio_1:  Windows is notorius for putting critical files and the very end of the partition.
[09:40] <clickstart> good luck with wpa
[09:40] <ant> thats just nonsense
[09:40] <cwillu> scumbag, kinda sorta ya
[09:40] <billy> scumbag:  yes.
[09:40] <clickstart> sorry
[09:40] <scumbag> ok
[09:40] <cwillu> scumbag, the .exe's all go in there so to speak (aside from /bin and /sbin, which you can kinda ignore)
[09:41] <cwillu> scumbag, but the rest of the program data goes in /usr/lib, /usr/share, etc
[09:41] <scumbag> ok
[09:41] <billy> Audio_1:  don't feel bad.  I learned the hard way too.  :)
[09:41] <scumbag> im a windows clicker.. but im getting there
[09:41] <clickstart> lol
[09:41] <Audio_1> so i basicly have to reinstall windows right?
[09:41] <pedro15> hi to all!
[09:41] <twiztr> Hey pedro15
[09:42] <cwillu> Audio_1, wha?
[09:42] <clickstart> aaudio_1. very likely
[09:42] <mneptok> scumbag: it's best if you take Linux on its own terms and not try to find parallels with Windows
[09:42] <billy> Audio_1:  *You* may be able to find a way to work it out.  I didn't.
[09:42] <cwillu> Audio_1, what happened?
[09:42] <mkquist> hey all - how can i move my usr/home folders to a separate hd?
[09:42] <catxk> just a simple question about structuring and stuff... If I download a tarball from firefox with a driver, where should I save the tarball and where should I extract it to "work with it", compiling and make and what not? I realize there is some personal preference here, but as a compraision, in windows, I would recommend someone asking to install stuff to "program files" even though it's not needed
[09:42] <Audio_1> hey, i am having problems with the GRUB loader. after installing ubuntu i select win xp, but it never leaves GRUB, it just hangs at "stating up..."
[09:42] <billy> Audio_1: more than likely you stepped over a critical file when you shrunk the partition.
[09:42] <cwillu> Audio_1, so you can get into ubuntu, but not windows?
[09:42] <twiztr> Does anyone have an opinion on a p2p proggy, like limewire/etc for a Gnomebox?
[09:42] <Audio_1> correct
[09:42] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: my laptop comes with build-in eth0 and wifi.  i also i have pcmcia eth1.  if i bring it to school. and chain two cat 5 into laptop.  will downloading iso be faster, since some ftp servers might restrict clients connecting to it. dont' know how it works thou. still want to use all 3 interface to make download faster.
[09:42] <mneptok> catxk: why are you downloading Firefox source?
[09:43] <cwillu> Audio_1, did you delete the windows partition?
[09:43] <welemski> does anyone knows a good software for ubuntu to call a local landline using the modem? and not voip...
[09:43] <billy> Audio_1: you *may* get it to work.  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot/Super-Grub-Disk-8071.shtml
[09:43] <clickstart> you may also have to modify for multiboot
[09:43] <mneptok> yellow_chicken: don't bother
[09:43] <Audio_1> no, it is still there
[09:43] <catxk> mneptok: I'm downloading a driver for my wireless card using firefox... where should I extract it? /usr/src?
[09:43] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, short answer, nope;
[09:43] <ant> !grub | Audio_1
[09:43] <ubotu> Audio_1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:43] <mneptok> catxk: what wireless card?
[09:43] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, ethernet generally assumes that you only have one mac address, any given connection will only use one card
[09:44] <clickstart> 1grub
[09:44] <clickstart> !grub does work
[09:44] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, it's possible to gain benefit from it, but non-trivial
[09:44] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[09:44] <yellow_chicken> mneptok: i know on the router end in school will make no difference. but the ftp server might give me more bandwith maybe?
[09:44] <cwillu> Audio_1, one sec
[09:44] <mneptok> yellow_chicken: no
[09:44] <clickstart> follow ant on that one
[09:44] <catxk> mneptok: atheros
[09:44] <twiztr> Actually, I found a site that should help...
[09:44] <clickstart> although hasn't helped me much
[09:44] <clickstart> just argues
[09:44] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, you could do something like a download accelerater with multiple ip's, but you don't need a second card to do that
[09:45] <mneptok> yellow_chicken: it's like thinking owning 2 cars that go 100mph suddenly makes one of them capable of 200mph
[09:45] <clickstart> gday all
[09:45] <billy> gday
[09:45] <mneptok> catxk: you don't need to download anything
[09:45] <catxk> no?
[09:45] <cwillu> mneptok, well, technically it's true, but it's just hard to setup, and for most any internet connection, won't make any difference
[09:45] <ant> if you could give me a good example or reason of why you would use wine to play doom3 i would shut my mouth
[09:45] <ant> :X
[09:45] <mneptok> catxk: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[09:46] <catxk> mneptok: ok... well, truth is that maybe it's not a driver I'm looking after :) it's software for switching the radio on/off
[09:46] <mneptok> cwillu: feel free to walk him through mulihoming and load balancing.
[09:46] <catxk> the card seem to be working
[09:46] <catxk> know what I mean? do I still need to get the restricted modules?
[09:46] <cwillu> mneptok, I already told him the short answer, :p
[09:46] <mneptok> catxk: you want to be able to turn the wireless signal off?
[09:47] <catxk> on, it's off by default
[09:47] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, there's absolutely nothing you can use the second card for other than a firewall, unless you've actually got more than 100mbit to the internet
[09:47] <mneptok> catxk: if wireless is "seems to be working" it's on
[09:47] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, there's a bunch of things that you _think_ you can use it for with only your current connection, but you can do all of those things with only a single card
[09:48] <ant> cant you just press fn+F2
[09:48] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: i already have a router connecting all machines
[09:48] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, in which case, there's no benefit at all
[09:48] <scumbag> i have two partitions i want to join into one but my root partition is between them in gparted "partition1 - root - partition2" how would i go about that? anyone?
[09:48] <cwillu> you're connection is bottlenecked at the router, unless you get another internet provider to use in tandem with the first
[09:48] <cwillu> adding a second connection to the router really seriously truly won't gain you anything
[09:49] <remoteCtrl> hi, when scanning it says g_NCR5280:1524 timeout and stalls --- there's a way to tell ncr to wait some more for device to be ready ?
[09:49] <cwillu> Audio_1, still there?
[09:49] <Audio_1> yes
[09:50] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: yes. i understand that. bottle neck is on the boardband connection.
[09:50] <cwillu> Audio_1, I almost have an answer for you
[09:50] <SubMOA> howdy all... so I downloaded a program from Synaptic... but I can't find it!  Where whould I look?
[09:50] <SubMOA> bin?
[09:51] <billy> SubMOA: yeah.
[09:51] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: ah... how about, i shoot two cat5 into router, and only enable one interface for ssh or rdp or vnc or whatever?
[09:51] <jakoblaursen> I need help. WPA and NetworkManager? How do I get it to work?
[09:51] <billy> SubMOA: usually you can run the program by simply typing it's name into a run line or terminal.
[09:51] <ant> SubMOA : 'updatedb' then 'locate program'
[09:51] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, you're internet connection is very much slower than 100mbit, right?
[09:51] <hyperion_> yo fags
[09:51] <hyperion_> sup
[09:51] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: yup
[09:51] <SubMOA> billy, I tried that... it didn't work
[09:52] <billy> SubMOA: to what ant said.
[09:52] <SubMOA> type "updateb"
[09:52] <mneptok> +sudo
[09:52] <SubMOA> or find it under bin... bceause I odn't see it in bin
[09:52] <ant> type sudo updatedb
[09:52] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, I suppose you could put one interface on a dmz on the router, but you'd still have to be careful that nothing on your box is listening to all available interfaces;  still easier/safer to just forward each individual service you want from the router to a single card
[09:52] <ant> then locate <nameofprogram>
[09:53] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, the dmz approach is really just doing a firewall on the linux machine, in parallel with the router
[09:53] <jakoblaursen> I need help. WPA and NetworkManager? How do I get it to work?
[09:53] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: thinking make the 2nd interface as a dedicated port and all connection to 2nd interface don't need authentication. because, all machine connecting to 2nd interface are local within house, and trusted.
[09:53] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, an interesting exercise, but not necessarily useful :)
[09:53] <billy> SubMOA: if you don't know the name of the entire program, you can use wildcards such as *.  Like firfox = fire*
[09:53] <SubMOA> nothings happening...
[09:53] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, that's called "using the box as a firewall"
[09:54] <SubMOA> after "sudo updatedb" it went to a new line and just has a bilnking curosr
[09:54] <ant> !wpa | jakoblaursen
[09:54] <billy> SubMOA: that's normal.  now type local <nameofprogram>
[09:54] <ubotu> jakoblaursen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:54] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, you could do that with one card:  multiple ip addresses, one considered trusted, and another where the router forwards everything from
[09:54] <cwillu> to rather
[09:54] <billy> *locate
[09:54] <SubMOA> ok... huge list
[09:54] <jakoblaursen> ant: Already been there
[09:55] <cwillu> Audio_1, can you pastebin me the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[09:55] <ant> jakoblaursen : that sucks
[09:55] <Audio_1> pastebin?
[09:55] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, my particular favourite common use is to firewall a windows box from the rest of _my_ network, mainly when I'm disinfecting a friends machine
[09:55] <SubMOA> billy so what am i looking for in this huge list
[09:55] <scumbag> i have two partitions i want to join into one but my root partition is between them in gparted "partition1 - root - partition2" how would i go about that? anyone?
[09:55] <cwillu> !pastebin | Audio_1
[09:55] <ubotu> Audio_1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:56] <ant> SubMOA : what is the name of the program?
[09:56] <billy> SubMOA:  use more of the program name, i.e. lean less upon the wildcard.  For instance, locate fire* would return firefox and firestarter.  So then locate firef* would return only firefox.
[09:56] <SubMOA> searchandrescue
[09:56] <SubMOA> i have TONS of info on searchandrescue
[09:57] <SubMOA> ....I'll figure it out later, i gotta run, later!  Thanks for your help
[09:57] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: ok thanks
[09:57] <Audio_1> cwi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11006/
[09:57] <billy> SubMOA: right-O.  take care.
[09:57] <ant> SubMOA : try whereis next time
[09:57] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, look up multihoming, aliasing, and all that good stuff if you're interested
[09:59] <Audio_1> cwillu: did you see that?
[09:59] <cwillu> Audio_1, I did now, thanks
[09:59] <Audio_1> how long do things stay there?
[10:00] <bullgard5> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8415/ shows that Ubuntu compiled two Ethernet modules in my kernel. I am surprised because in Debian Etch they could not co-exist on my computer. Could this fact be the cause that Ubuntu does not bring up the Ethernet after Suspend-to-Ram?
[10:00] <cwillu> Audio_1, not dead sure;  there's nothing security related in that file anyway
[10:00] <cwillu> Audio_1, does grub even give you the option of booting into xp?
[10:00] <Audio_1> i know, i was just curious
[10:00] <Audio_1> yes, it does
[10:00] <cwillu> Audio_1, oops, nvm, I see it now
[10:00] <billy> cwillu:  check out the "root" line of the Microsoft title. Shouldn't there be a ")" after "(hd0,0"?
[10:00] <cwillu> Audio_1, k, I think I see the problem
[10:00] <cwillu> billy,  :)
[10:01] <cwillu> Audio_1, what billy said :p
[10:01] <ant> how does that happen?
[10:01] <cwillu> Audio_1, edit that file, line 162 needs a ')' at the end (like line 146)
[10:02] <billy> Audio_1:  you catching all this?
[10:02] <cwillu> Audio_1, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:02] <billy> cwillu: curious.  why gksudo?  never really understood the difference?
[10:02] <Audio_1> yeah, i have to go into root
[10:02] <Audio_1> brb with the results
[10:02] <cwillu> billy, it can break in some circumstances, handles x auth better I think
[10:02] <cwillu> Audio_1, gl
[10:02] <Audio_1> thanks
[10:03] <cwillu> billy, I usually just use sudo (command line password is more convenient), but occasionally it breaks in weird and wonderful ways, but gksudo still works
[10:03] <billy> cwillu: ah.  because using gedit, perhaps?
[10:03] <Dy> hey i am useing a laptop with onboard grfx and for some reason anything tht uses opengl runs extremely slowly is there any way to fix this?
[10:03] <cwillu> billy, x stuff in general
[10:03] <cwillu> sudo gedit would have worked, but I'm trying to change my habits
[10:03] <billy> cwillu:  right on.  i like nano nowadays.
[10:04] <ant> !gksudo
[10:04] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[10:04] <cwillu> really, I just wish gedit tried to sudo if you tried save the file, like installing a deb file by double clicking does
[10:04] <billy> thanks ant.  will keep that in mind.
[10:04] <l90bpm> yellow_chicken  I had to stab another card in my other pc because my onboard was non-compliant w/ ubuntu..  in the process I mistakenly left the other ethernet plugged in as well so for a brief moment I had two ethernet cables plugged in.  This was causing mass hysteria w/ utorrent..  (got the lil yellow shield instead of the green)..  so I wouldn't suggest trying to run two cat5's
[10:04] <billy> cwillu:  that'd be convenient.  I understand there are alternatives to nautilus which have a "edit as root" right click option.
[10:05] <l90bpm> but I'm pretty sure the reason for my trouble was due to having a static ip on one card and the other had just been installed.. so I'm sure it defaulted to DHCP
[10:05] <cwillu> l90bpm, should only have broken something if you had a port forward set up from the router;  the os determines which card it's going to use regardless of where ports are forwarded
[10:05] <yellow_chicken> l90bpm: ah... ok. still sound fun haaha
[10:05] <cwillu> billy, there's extensions to nautilus that does it (easy to set up)
[10:05] <ant> there is also gksu
[10:05] <Smerity> heya ^_^ annoying question, just wondering if anyone has a good WinAmp style program for Ubuntu - basically all I want is to be able to easily access online radio without a lot of fuss... Any suggestions?
[10:05] <l90bpm> cwillu..  did you see my last comment?
[10:05] <cwillu> billy, I think the biggest problem with the gedit auto-sudo would be determining what access you actually need
[10:06] <yellow_chicken> l90bpm: one guy has an interesting quesion. http://networking.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/networkadmin-l/two-nic-card-and-dhcp-832899#
[10:06] <billy> Smerity:  online radio?  Last.fm is OK in my book.
[10:06] <reneeg> irc://irc.deltaanime.net/datorrents
[10:06] <cwillu> l90bpm, sounds about like what I said :p
[10:06] <l90bpm> yep
[10:06] <Smerity> billy - sweet, will have a look - thanks man ^_^
[10:06] <cwillu> l90bpm, I hate giving up on a long comment :p
[10:06] <l90bpm> it's port forwarded and set to static ip
[10:06] <cwillu> l90bpm, does your router support static dhcp?
[10:07] <billy> Smerity:  use the repository package though.  sudo apt-get install lastfm.  you'll need to set up an account at their website though.
[10:07] <l90bpm> WRT54G v5
[10:07] <cwillu> l90bpm, it's a little neater for that I find (one place to set all ips, that is)
[10:07] <cwillu> l90bpm, pretty sure that one does
[10:07] <l90bpm> haven'ttried it that way
[10:07] <cwillu> l90bpm, still wouldn't have helped with changing the nic though :/
[10:07] <cwillu> l90bpm, different mac address and all
[10:07] <Dy> any ideas?
[10:07] <Smerity> billy - will do ^_^ thx again
[10:07] <ant> spoof it
[10:07] <Audio_1> it still hangs up
[10:07] <ant> ha
[10:08] <billy> cwillu: well, as a recovering 'doze user, i think i'll just stick to the CL as much as possible, just for that extra nerdy feelin'.  :)
[10:08] <cwillu> Audio_1, can you double check that the file is still changed?
[10:08] <cwillu> billy, I'm sure you can find a script to reconfig a wrt via command line
[10:08] <Audio_1> root		(hd0,0)
[10:09] <cwillu> billy, in fact, you should consider installing your own linux on it;  there's easy to use firmwares for that :p
[10:09] <Audio_1> it is changed
[10:09] <billy> cwillu: uh ... i think you lost me.  remember ... recovering 'doze user here.  :D
[10:09] <cwillu> Audio_1, it never got past grub right?  didn't splash windows at all?
[10:10] <cwillu> billy, you can install linux on a wrt54 :p
[10:10] <Audio_1> corrct, no windows
[10:10] <AzMoo> Anybody know why the installer is telling me that, "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources." ?
[10:10] <l90bpm> cwillu: what does it do when you nenew on DHCP with two cards? assigns two different ip's right?
[10:10] <l90bpm> but only one active
[10:10] <cwillu> l90bpm, dhcp is based on the mac address of the card generally, although it's possible (but rare) to base it on hostname as well (wrt doesn't though)
[10:11] <cwillu> billy, oops, I think I'm crossing my conversations :p
[10:11] <yellow_chicken> say i am at coffee shop, only one rj45 jack. and i am plugged in and i have wireless. how to enable my wirless so other can traffice through my laptop?
[10:11] <billy> cwillu: ok.  i was wondering.  :)
[10:11] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, there's a sysctl to turn on forwarding
[10:11] <l90bpm> not that I'm capable.. but mac's can be spoofed, right?
[10:11] <cwillu> yellow_chicken, aka, routing, firewalling
[10:11] <cwillu> l90bpm, easily;  just specify a different mac address in the config
[10:11] <Dy> any at all?
[10:12] <cwillu> l90bpm, but don't set both cards to the same one, you'll have all sorts of weirdness happen then
[10:12] <ubuntu> tomarrow is a another day
[10:12] <l90bpm> if my stepdaughter only knew how to do that.. lol.. she would back on myspace for sure
[10:12] <billy> AzMoo:  howdy.  What is it about the error message that you don't understand, again?  I think I may be missing info that you posted previously.
[10:12] <tulap> hi to all ! my big problem is that my network-admin never apply change thata I made ! for sample doesnt active my wireless
[10:12] <Dy> l90bpm, you dont let her on myspace?
[10:13] <billy> myspace is evil.
[10:13] <cwillu> l90bpm, that's where you talk to yellow_chicken, get him to give you his second nic, set your machine up as a firewall, and put a transparent http proxy with authentication in the middle :p
[10:13] <l90bpm> I have her mac address blocked from myspace she was taking it to another level.. it became a big problem
[10:13] <mneptok> ubuntu: actually, the other day is "tomorrow" ;)
[10:13] <predaeus> Dy, run glxinfo | grep vendor  and check if it shows your video cards vendor. If not, it is probably running in software mode and you need to install drivers.
[10:13] <ubuntu> ok... i dont get tit
[10:13] <ant> i get tit
[10:13] <ant> :X
[10:14] <Dy> server glx vendor string: SGI
[10:14] <Dy> client glx vendor string: SGI
[10:14] <Dy> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[10:14] <Audio_1> so does it look like i will have to reinstall windows
[10:14] <mneptok> ubuntu: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tomorrow
[10:14] <predaeus> Dy, yup mesa is a software driver.
[10:14] <ant> Audio_1 : have you tried reinstalling grub?
[10:14] <l90bpm> another Dr. Phil type problem..  although I am against censorship..  I am all for it when it comes to my kids
[10:14] <BeepAU> I have a Sigmatel STAC9200 sound card which i'm finding impossible to get working outside windows. could anyone please help me?
[10:14] <predaeus> Dy, try to find out what card it is and install the drivers if possible
[10:14] <yellow_chicken> l90bpm: sent me a virutal dollar, and i might consider =)
[10:15] <Audio_1> ant: what would that do, everything appears to be right
[10:15] <cwillu> l90bpm, don't worry, I'm sure they've already got a way around it :p
[10:15] <AzMoo> billy, I don't understand why it's telling me that. I'm installing from the Ubuntu Server DVD onto a P3 800. It should just be using the generic kernel :\
[10:15] <billy> Audio_1:  be aware.  installing windows *after* you already have Ubuntu on another partition brings a little more work than if you put Ubuntu on second.
[10:15] <cwillu> internet censorship is annoying merely because it can't ever really work
[10:15] <ant> well if grub is hanging something is wrong with it
[10:15] <AzMoo> s/DVD/CD
[10:15] <tulap> BeepAU do you have a dell ispirom ? whit my sigmatel Ubuntu is running good
[10:15] <Audio_1> i know, that is what i am concerned about
[10:15] <cwillu> might as well embrace it
[10:15] <l90bpm> yeah thats why I said that earlier about kids being the best reverse engineers on the planet..
[10:15] <BeepAU> tulap - I have a Medion
[10:16] <gordonjcp> cwillu: well, unless you censor all possible routes into an area
[10:16] <billy> ant:  the same thing happened to me as Audio_1 when I resized my Windows partition.
[10:16] <ant> ohh
[10:16] <cwillu> gordonjcp, even then, you have to go on a whitelist approach
[10:16] <cwillu> and trust everyone on the whitelist to never allow any form of proxying
[10:16] <ant> yea it probly doesnt like that too much
[10:16] <BeepAU> tulap - you might be able to help me though, was sound working for you out of the box?
[10:16] <eilker> kdm is not working, i wanna have a small script on my desktop to close pc. any help pls ?
[10:16] <billy> AzMoo:  I don't understand either.  So this is an error you're getting on install, is that correct?
[10:16] <gordonjcp> cwillu: or you can do stateful packet inspection
[10:17] <cwillu> Audio_1, I'm almost certain you don't have to reinstall windows, but it's a bit tough to isolate the problem without being at the machine :/
[10:17] <yellow_chicken> cwillu: hey, censorship might be possible via google.  since google teach everyone how to cook an egg the same why.
[10:17] <gordonjcp> cwillu: and examine every single packet that comes through
[10:17] <cwillu> gordonjcp, not enough
[10:17] <cwillu> gordonjcp, I can hide ssh in image downloads if I have to
[10:17] <someothernick> /j #kubuntu
[10:17] <l90bpm> so tell me more about static DHCP..  sounds safer
[10:17] <someothernick> opps
[10:17] <billy> ant:  From what I understand, Windows will put critical system files at the very end of a partition after LOTS of free space.  You MUST defrag to be sure, and then it isn't always a sure thing.
[10:17] <someothernick> soz
[10:18] <cwillu> gordonjcp, modulate incoming text, etc;  the best you can do is limit the incoming bitrate of info, and that's assuming you know how I'm hiding the data
[10:18] <l90bpm> it's a windoze box anyhow.. not like I can make it all that safe in the first place
[10:18] <Audio_1> is it possible to move them to a diffrent spot on the partition?
[10:18] <gordonjcp> l90bpm: you take the MAC address of the device you want to fix the IP of, and then you configure your DHCP server to always hand off the same address
[10:18] <ant> you can harden xp
[10:18] <billy> l90bpm:  using Windows I'd recommend Core Force.  I used it somewhat.  Seemed decent.
[10:18] <cwillu> l90bpm, not really more secure, just puts the configs for every machine on the same network
[10:19] <l90bpm> well then in effect.. it's still just a static ip then, correct?
[10:19] <eilker> kdm is not working, i wanna have a small script on my desktop to close pc. any help pls ? sudo halt // but i dont know how to write in script...
[10:19] <cwillu> l90bpm, yep, just determined outside of that box
[10:19] <l90bpm> I thought maybe it would assign a new static ip each time, that would be nice
[10:19] <cwillu> l90bpm, that wouldn't be a static address then
[10:19] <FP> Hi all
[10:19] <MythrilSword> mornin' all
[10:19] <billy> Hi FP.
[10:20] <billy> Hi MythrilSword.
[10:20] <cwillu> l90bpm, you could do something like have the portforwarding based on hostname rather than ip, in which case it wouldn't matter what ip address it got assigned, but no home router that I know of lets you do that
[10:20] <l90bpm> I'm dieing to ask an off topic question in here but I don't want to get smacked
[10:20] <Dy> go for it l90bpm
[10:20] <cwillu> l90bpm, I'm in ubuntu-offtopic as well :p
[10:20] <billy> eilker:  using KDE and you want to put a shutdown button on your desktop?
[10:21] <l90bpm> is downloading tv shows illegal?
[10:21] <eilker> billy:exactly
[10:21] <anthony_> hi, Im on Ubuntu 6.10,  I just installed bonager, but It didnt work after install, then I went to synaptic to remove it but an error comes up .. any ideas?
[10:21] <cwillu> l90bpm, not necessarily, but for the most part probably
[10:21] <billy> l90bpm:  yes.  it violates copywright laws.
[10:21] <cwillu> billy, depends on how it's copyrighted, but in general :p
[10:21] <Smerity> billy - love last.fm, but using the site atm as the software crashes (but there seems to be a thread on the forums about that, so I'll read up)
[10:21] <l90bpm> kinda what I figured, guess I'm a criminal..   it's like cigarettes to me.. so hard to quit
[10:22] <ant> you can download public access shows. :)
[10:22] <cwillu> l90bpm, any network that lets you view their shows over their site is downloading their show to you
[10:22] <billy> Smerity: yeah, that's happened to me.  If you find the solution, could you share a link?  that'd be really sweet of you.
[10:22] <l90bpm> yeah, w/ DRM
[10:22] <cwillu> l90bpm, I put it up with alcohol:  there's been prohibitions, but society eventually comes to its senses
[10:22] <l90bpm> I'm speaking of the LOL and XOR releases specifically
[10:23] <gordonjcp> 09:20 < billy> l90bpm:  yes.  it violates copywright laws.
[10:23] <gordonjcp> billy: no
[10:23] <gordonjcp> billy: it *may* violate copyright laws
[10:23] <cwillu> ahh, I get it:  billy=democracy :p
[10:23] <l90bpm> not democracy again
[10:23] <cwillu> I love getting spammed about how ryanakca is getting kicked :/
[10:24] <billy> eikler:  I haven't used KDE in a little while. Sorry I can't help.  Try right clicking and adding "something", putting sudo halt as the execution code.
[10:24] <cwillu> you started it :p
[10:24] <l90bpm> the ubuntu cracker.. lmao
[10:24] <billy> gordonjcp: yes, you're correct.  It's a case by case basis.
[10:24] <gordonjcp> who tf is ryanakca
[10:24] <billy> cwillu: billy = democracy?  ANATHEMA!!
[10:25] <gordonjcp> billy: for instance, look at "The Secret Life of Machines", by Tim Hunkin
[10:25] <ShaiGar> what other channels are there for ubuntu on freenode?
[10:25] <ShaiGar> for general chat and the like
[10:25] <l90bpm> a bunch
[10:26] <billy> ShaiGar:  ubuntu-offtopic is one.
[10:26] <catxk> I finally got my atheros bullshitting wifi to work!!!11 :D it worked kinda ok for about 30 seconds, then it slowed down to a halt, can't even ping my router... it still says I'm connected though with 90% signal strength. any ideas?
[10:26] <ShaiGar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:26] <billy> gordonjcp: that sounds interesting.  thanks for the recommendation.
[10:26] <gordonjcp> billy: fantastic programme, and you download it with the producer's blessing ;-)
[10:27] <bullgard5> What configuration file stores my static route to the gateway?
[10:27] <cwillu> catxk, I feel for ya, but watch your language :p
[10:27] <catxk> sry :P
[10:27] <cwillu> thanks ompaul
[10:28] <predaeus> bullgard5, if you run route it shows the routes including the one to the GW. Maybe man route gives more info.
[10:28] <ompaul> cwillu, np
[10:28] <AzMoo> billy, correct. On install of Ubuntu Server I am getting the error, "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources." During the "Install the base system" phase.
[10:28] <cwillu> ompaul, I owe you a pizza if you're ever in saskatchewan
[10:28] <bullgard5> predaeus: I asked for a filename. man route does not give this information.
[10:28] <mneptok> cwillu: *no one* is ever in Saskatchewan ;)
[10:29] <dee> Hello i just installed wine and installed photoshop but how do i find the path of photoshop so i can load the program?
[10:29] <BeepAU> I have a Sigmatel STAC9200 sound card which i'm finding impossible to get working outside windows. could anyone please help me?
[10:29] <l90bpm> I hear alot ppl talking about firewalls and such (not so much today as the other day) if linux has built in firewalls, why bother?  I guess the built in ones are easily hacked?
[10:29] <cwillu> mneptok, that's why I like it here :)
[10:29] <ompaul> haha
[10:30] <mneptok> cwillu: starring in "Corner Gas?" ;)
[10:30] <Audio_1> well then. what do i have to do after i were to reinstall windows on the other partition in order to be able to get back to linux
[10:30] <cwillu> l90bpm, depends on the use;  I don't really want to have to worry about killing my roommates connection when I reboot my computer, so I use a seperate router
[10:30] <jhaig> When I shut the lid of my laptop, a Dell Inspiron, it sleeps but it does not wake up when I open it again.  Is this a known bug?  Is there a fix or a workaround for this?
[10:30] <cwillu> mneptok, believe it or not, we've got three walmarts in the city
[10:30] <billy> AzMoo:  i *always* ask this question when people have problems with CD/DVD installs.  Did you perform an md5sum check and a DVD check?
[10:31] <mneptok> cwillu: well, that narrows it to 'toon or Regina ;)
[10:31] <jhaig> I'm using Edgy.
[10:31] <zcat[1] > billy: and burn at a lowish speed..
[10:31] <cwillu> jhaig, somebody might be able to help you out, but suspend issues on laptops do happen
[10:31] <cwillu> mneptok, I ain't saying :p
[10:31] <l90bpm> I'm within 25 miles of 6 of em'..   they are taking over!
[10:31] <billy> zcat[1] : I hear mixed things about that, but generally I agree.  2x or so.
[10:31] <AzMoo> billy, yes. I've also installed off of it before with no problems.
[10:32] <zcat[1] > billy: I never had a problem at 16x, but I've run into a lot of drives that just won't read a disk burned at 40x
[10:32] <jhaig> cwillu: Do you know if it is improved in the Feisty?
[10:32] <cwillu> mneptok, where are you from?
[10:32] <mneptok> cwillu: QC
[10:32] <billy> AzMoo:  not sure what's happening unless the DVD has become corrupted somehow.
[10:32] <cwillu> jhaig, it's one of those things that's _constantly_ being improved, so you might have some luck, hard to say though
[10:32] <cwillu> jhaig, there's almost certainly a few workarounds though
[10:33] <jhaig> cwillu: Thanks.
[10:33] <Audio_1> billy: is it possible to 'move' the files from the end of the partition?
[10:33] <AzMoo> billy, it's not just that DVD though. I used both Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu and both of them are doing it. It doesn't make sense to me at all, because it's all completely standard hardware and none of it is faulty.
[10:33] <cwillu> mneptok, been to montreal and hull, that's about it for me
[10:33] <billy> Audio_1:  yes.  peform a defrag within windows.  Some files won't move.  Google "move the immovable".  Should return something.
[10:33] <jhaig> cwillu: I did find a work around, but unfortunately it involves having a monitor that I can plug in.  It seems that switching to an external screen and then back wakes it up.  :-)
[10:34] <cwillu> mneptok, although the montreal plants tried to kidnap me the last time I was up there (techy in the company that actually tries to speak french!? wtf!)
[10:34] <Audio_1> i cannot get into windows
[10:34] <cwillu> jhaig, hmm;  there might be an easy way to tweak that by hand
[10:34] <billy> AzMoo:  that's strange.  I'm sorry i don't know what's going on.
[10:34] <cwillu> jhaig, does it wake up if you hit ctrl+alt+f1, and then ctrl+alt+f7?
[10:34] <AzMoo> billy, isn't it? I'm so confused :(
[10:34] <zcat[1] > billy: something else I found out tonight; if there's an immovable file in the middle of your ntfs it's possibly swap. Turn swap down to zero in windows, shutdown and resize, the next time youboot windows turn it back on.
[10:35] <billy> Audio_1: well, those files have already been stepped over, reformatted, cannoned into oblivion.
[10:35] <mneptok> cwillu: i moved here last year from Oregon after being recruited by Montreal geeks.
[10:35] <cwillu> AzMoo, what's happening?
[10:35] <cwillu> mneptok, how do you like the winter?
[10:35] <tdn> When a user logs in to Gnome on my system, she gets this error message: ``The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly. You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it. Or you can restart the application right now. [Restart app.]  [close]  [inform developers] ''. I have another user on the same system. This user can log in to KDE without any errors. All this started happening after an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10. What can be the cause? How d
[10:36] <cwillu> (mneptok, before you answer, I should mention that we're still -20C these days)
[10:36] <billy> Audio_1: I've never done it before, but my spidey-senses tell me that you can install Windows and then reinstall GRUB with a Super Grub Disc.  Got one?
[10:36] <l90bpm> If I mount a winblows volume in ubuntu, and I have another linux machine networked with computer..  can I share files across the network?  Home edition is not cool at all if you know what I mean.. trying to find the catch 22 here..
[10:36] <mneptok> cwillu: nothing i wasn't prepared for. grew up in the northeast US
[10:36] <nitin_navaraga> hi
[10:36] <Audio_1> i have a supergrub disk
[10:36] <l90bpm> share the windoze volume I mean..
[10:36] <cwillu> Audio_1, easiest way might be to do a windows repair;  should just reinstall the windows mbr, at which point what billy said should work great
[10:36] <cwillu> (basically, I just repeated what he said)
[10:37] <nitin_navaraga> how can i play videos and sound in firefox on ubuntu?
[10:37] <Audio_1> so run a repair, then bot the supergrub
[10:37] <AzMoo> cwillu, On install of Ubuntu Server (or Ubuntu normal) I am getting the error, "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources." During the "Install the base system" phase.
[10:37] <billy> cwillu: I tried that in my case.   Didn't work.  Maybe Audio_1's case will be different.
[10:38] <jhaig> cwillu: I don't think that worked.  I did try lots of things, but I have got into the habit of using 'hibernate' instead now.
[10:38] <Audio_1> well
[10:38] <Audio_1> i will bbl
[10:38] <cwillu> jhaig, what video chipset is it?
[10:38] <brynk> can someone tell me how to keep my bluetooth headset connected?
[10:38] <billy> Audio_1: good luck with the re-install.  :)
[10:38] <Audio_1> thanks
[10:38] <brynk> it keeps disconnecting after a short period of inactivity
[10:39] <cwillu> AzMoo, 64bit machine?
[10:39] <cwillu> shouldn't matter actually I guess
[10:39] <AzMoo> cwillu, nope. P3 800, 256MB SDRAM, Intel D815EEA2 Motherboard.
[10:40] <cwillu> AzMoo, it's not failing anywhere else is it?  earlier on once in a while?
[10:41] <uberclops> I <3 ubuntu :D
[10:41] <cwillu> AzMoo, I'd be tempted to try booting with ide=nodma, but that's just a wild shot
[10:41] <AzMoo> cwillu, nope. Same spot every single time.
[10:41] <AzMoo> I'll give that a go.
[10:41] <jhaig> cwillu: According to lspci, it is "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)"
[10:42] <cwillu> jhaig, look at vbetool
[10:42] <fulhack> hey, I'm connected to a wireless AP, can I find out the IP of the device somehow?
[10:42] <fulhack> I've got the MAC.. :)
[10:42] <jhaig> cwillu: Thanks, I'll look that up.
[10:42] <cwillu> jhaig, if you can ssh into your machine, it'll be easier to play with it (i.e., see if it can wake up the video)
[10:43] <cwillu> fulhack, does it give you an ip address?
[10:43] <fulhack> cwillu: Nope, I have a separate DHCP server :\
[10:44] <cwillu> fulhack, should be able to do something arp'ish
[10:44] <fulhack> cwillu: My device won't let me sniff the traffic, would that be necessary?
[10:45] <mneptok> fulhack: iwlist $interface scan
[10:45] <fulhack> BRB
[10:45] <cwillu> fulhack, [whois aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff tell 11:22:33:44:55:66]   no, I think it should still work;  just can't think of a program that'll send that packet easily
[10:45] <mheath> mneptok, that gives SSID.
[10:46] <mneptok> and that's all you'll get without a lease.
[10:46] <mheath> mneptok, he has a lease
[10:46] <mheath> He is communicating with it. He has its MAC.
[10:47] <mneptok> so find the IP giving you the lease
[10:47] <cwillu> mneptok, seperate dhcp server
[10:47] <mheath> It's an easy thing to get the IP, and thats what he wants. He didn't say he wanted the SSID.
[10:48] <cwillu> mheath, it's not the dhcp server he wants (gateway isn't the dhcp)
[10:48] <ernz> Hi - I have a second physical EXT3 drive with a whole load of stuff on it, I would like to change a folder on this drive to the new "Home" folder. Does someone know how to do this?
[10:48] <LazyAngel> i saw a php web interface for playing music from a server a long time ago. anyone know the name? :)
[10:48] <l90bpm> anyone have any reading material about linux on the WRT54G???  :-D
[10:48] <jhaig> cwillu: OK, so I've ssh'ed in and vbetool is installed.  Now, if I make the laptop sleep, will (might?) vbetool be able to wake it up?
[10:48] <cwillu> jhaig, after you wake it up, it should let you repost the video, or any number of other nifty things
[10:48] <genii> 190bpm ! minute
[10:49] <l90bpm> k
[10:49] <cwillu> jhaig, i.e., sleep it, wake it, ssh, and play with vbetool
[10:49] <genii> 190bpm I'll find something for you
[10:49] <l90bpm> I found a torrent for it.. just couldn't find any details
[10:49] <jhaig> cwillu: Ha, it has woken up properly by itself this time.  :-)
[10:49] <ferronica> Is there any book available for ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dappers Drake???
[10:49] <LazyAngel> l90bpm: http://openwrt.org/
[10:49] <l90bpm> thanks
[10:50] <ferronica> i a new starter of linux
[10:50] <cwillu> jhaig, lol
[10:50] <LazyAngel> np :)
[10:50] <jhaig> cwillu: Maybe because I'm still logged in via ssh.
[10:50] <cwillu> jhaig, shouldn't :/
[10:50] <cwillu> jhaig, makes me wonder if there's some wakeup script that will call vbetool if it's installed
[10:50] <mneptok> http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/index.php
[10:50] <cwillu> jhaig, but I thought it was installed by default
[10:51] <jhaig> cwillu: It is possible that it was fixed in some update some time ago, and I just missed it.
[10:51] <hateyla> !beryl
[10:51] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:51] <fulhack> cwillu: I think you're on to something with the whois thing. That's an ARP packet I'm trying to send there, right?
[10:51] <jhaig> If vbetool is what I have heard about, I think it is very much in development, so it is possible that there has been an update.
[10:53] <genii> 190bpm These should make for informative reading:
[10:53] <genii> http://www.batbox.org/wrt54g-linux.html
[10:53] <genii> http://openwrt.org/
[10:53] <genii> http://ezinearticles.com/?WRT54g-Linux-Firmware-Distributions&id=118837
[10:53] <genii> http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3562391
[10:54] <l90bpm> so it does not support wifi?
[10:54] <tdn> When a user logs in to Gnome on my system, she gets this error message: ``The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly. You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it. Or you can restart the application right now. [Restart app.]  [close]  [inform developers] ''. I have another user on the same system. This user can log in to KDE without any errors. All this started happening after an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10. What can be the cause? How d
[10:55] <genii> 190bpm The wrt54g series ARE wifi
[10:55] <cwillu> fulhack, yep;  dhcp protocol uses it to check for collisions
[10:55] <AzMoo> cwillu, no joy :\
[10:55] <l90bpm> I was just reading the documentation
[10:55] <cwillu> AzMoo, which cd's do you have again?
[10:55] <cwillu> (brb)
[10:56] <l90bpm>  Partial - partially supported, no support for the wireless card.
[10:56] <AzMoo> cwillu, Ubuntu Server 6.10 and Ubuntu 6.10
[10:56] <l90bpm> so it has partial, what's missing WPA?
[10:56] <ferronica> how do i print .CHM files
[10:56] <AzMoo> It gives me the option to continue without a kernel. Is there a way I can force a kernel on it after I've finished the rest?
[10:57] <ferronica> there is no options showing Print
[10:57] <cwillu> AzMoo, maybe;  other thing I'd try is an alternate cd, bare system install:  you can installk the server packages later
[10:58] <l90bpm> ok, ok...   my bad..   didn't see the keyword there..  "legend"
[10:58] <Zewey> ferronica: which reader do you use?
[10:58] <Zewey> xchm has a print option
[10:58] <cwillu> AzMoo, if you can get a usable system at all (via chroot if necessary off a live cd), you can install a deb by hand, or just get the apt-get sources right and install of the internet
[10:58] <ferronica> Zewey: i have .CHM reader to open .CHM document'
[10:59] <jakoblaursen> Need Wifi help - have been at the docs
[10:59] <Zewey> ferronica: is that Gnochm?
[10:59] <AzMoo> cwillu, I reckon I could go the chroot route. I've done a LFS install before so I'm not entirely unfamiliar with the process.
[10:59] <AzMoo> cwillu, Seems a few people are having this issue in Feisty, but nobody in Edgy :\
[10:59] <cwillu> AzMoo, so worst case, you should still be fine
[10:59] <cwillu> AzMoo, you're running feisty?
[10:59] <ferronica> Zewey:yes GnoCHM
[10:59] <AzMoo> cwillu, no
[11:00] <AzMoo> cwillu, edgy
[11:00] <l90bpm> sorry about that, I'm a delusional insomniac
[11:00] <ferronica> Zewey: CHM viwer
[11:00] <ferronica> CHM Viewer 0.9.6
[11:00] <Zewey> ferronica: try xchm, or kchm then. i uninstalled that because i couldn't search properly within pages
[11:01] <ferronica> Zewey: Is there print options available on them???
[11:01] <Zewey> ferronica: i use xchm, which does have print. :)
[11:01] <ferronica> Zewey: can i download these from Add/Remove
[11:02] <feri79> hi
[11:02] <Zewey> ferronica: not sure... but 'sudo aptitude install xchm' on console will do
[11:02] <feri79> I just wanna know if this is the right place to ask questions and get support?
[11:02] <cwillu> feri79, yep
[11:02] <ferronica> Zewey: i am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper drake will this command work???
[11:03] <bimberi> feri79: it is.  ask away and if someone can help they'll reply
[11:03] <bimberi> ferronica: yes
[11:03] <cwillu> ferronica, it should, if xchm is in dapper
[11:04] <bimberi> !info xchm dapper
[11:04] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 856 kB
[11:04] <bimberi> phew! ;)
[11:04] <cwillu> lol
[11:04] <cwillu> !info xchm warty
[11:04] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.9-3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 944 kB
[11:04] <Zewey> ferronica: try typing 'aptitude show xchm' in your console, and see if it gives you any information
[11:05] <cwillu> Zewey, just checked, it's in dapper
[11:05] <Zewey> cwillu: oh, i just have to use that !<package name> <distro> to check?
[11:06] <cwillu> Zewey, yep
[11:06] <Zewey> cwillu: that's awfully nifty. thanks :)
[11:06] <cwillu> Zewey, !info <...>
[11:06] <AzMoo> cwillu, do you think this is a bug/
[11:07] <cwillu> AzMoo, yep
[11:07] <AzMoo> cwillu, should I submit it?
[11:07] <hoelk> hmm
[11:07] <cwillu> maybe, I'd check if it's in there already though
[11:07] <hoelk> digikam detects my digicam, but when i try to display and download the photos it says it cant connect
[11:07] <cwillu> AzMoo, do you have an alt cd around?
[11:07] <hoelk> i also have this problem with other digicam software
[11:08] <hoelk> though it works on another pc running kubuntu so its not a problem with the cam itself
[11:08] <hoelk> anyone any idea?
[11:09] <AzMoo> cwillu, nope. I suppose I could make one, but I'm starting to run out of discs.
[11:09] <cwillu> AzMoo, been there
[11:09] <cwillu> AzMoo, myself, I almost always install my servers via base install on the alt cd
[11:09] <AzMoo> cwillu, Probably a good idea to try that anyway. I'll give it a go.
[11:10] <cwillu> AzMoo, mainly because I tend to have them around already because I install a bunch of really low end terminals as well
[11:11] <cwillu> hoelk, can you browse it as a file system?
[11:11] <hoelk> nope
[11:11] <cwillu> on either machine?
[11:12] <hoelk> no on the other machine it works perfectly well
[11:12] <hoelk> it also once worked here
[11:12] <hoelk> somehow stopped and i dunno why
[11:12] <hoelk> 8[
[11:12] <cwillu> anything different if you plug it into a different port on the machine?
[11:13] <rausb0> !wireless
[11:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:13] <hoelk> i think its an usb problem somehow
[11:13] <hoelk> not really
[11:13] <ferronica> Zewey: okay here is the output of terminal when  i typed show xchm --->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11014/
[11:13] <cwillu> hoelk, might check if /var/log/messages, kern, etc show anything of interest
[11:14] <Zewey> ferronica: that means you can install it then. :)
[11:14] <Zewey> you can do "sudo aptitude install xchm" to install it
[11:14] <AzMoo> cwillu, is it possible to update the sources.list on the install CD so that it downloads from my ISP's mirror?
[11:14] <cwillu> AzMoo, not entirely sure;  probably worth a shot
[11:14] <andel> how can i download gnome-window-decorator ?
[11:14] <DaveE_> hello, i have a problem -> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/apache2': Permission denied how can i fix this?
[11:14] <AzMoo> cwillu, I just can't find a sources.list :p
[11:15] <cwillu> DaveE_, sudo
[11:15] <cwillu> lol @ AzMoo
[11:15] <DaveE_> cwillu, what do you mean with sudo?
[11:15] <cwillu> DaveE_, put sudo before the command
[11:15] <cwillu> DaveE_, question though:  you're trying to install apache?
[11:15] <DaveE_> wohoohohoohohoh it works m8 THANKS!
[11:16] <DaveE_> yeah, trying to install apache, PHP & mysql :)
[11:16] <AzMoo> Don't do it manually!
[11:16] <cwillu> DaveE_, any reason you're not using the repository?
[11:16] <DaveE_> im folowing an online instrucion, how to install all this things :D
[11:16] <cwillu> DaveE_, with all the benefits of automatic security updates that it gives you?
[11:16] <cwillu> DaveE_, no no no :)
[11:16] <DaveE_> cwillu, i didnt know for that option.. :)
[11:17] <cwillu> DaveE_, start synaptic, find apache2, and php for apache2
[11:17] <DaveE_> what about mysql?
[11:17] <cwillu> same
[11:17] <cwillu> just search for all three,
[11:17] <cwillu> DaveE_, and/or look for a ubuntu or debian specific guid
[11:17] <cwillu> e
[11:19] <DaveE_> thans for the hint m8`s :)
[11:19] <DaveE_> thanks*
[11:19] <cwillu> DaveE_, it's like windows updates, except for every program on your computer
[11:19] <DaveE_> yes...
[11:19] <cwillu> debian killer feature :)
[11:20] <cwillu> DaveE_, after you've got it installed, and in case the guide you've got doesn't say this, a2ensite, a2ctl, a2anything are the commands you want
[11:20] <cwillu> apache2ctl rather
[11:20] <DaveE_> :)
[11:21] <cwillu> and sudo, for when those commands say you're not allowed to use them :o
[11:22] <Yggdrasil> can somone help me out with.. console based bittorrent client. btdownloadcurses seems to be crap lately
[11:22] <cwillu> now, can _somebody_ tell me how to move a window from the command line?  :)
[11:22] <mjbrooks> Ygrr: mutella
[11:22] <cwillu> Yggdrasil, bittornado, but unset display first :p
[11:22] <cwillu> I hope you don't need any configuration :)
[11:23] <mjbrooks> cwillu: lol
[11:23] <Yggdrasil> cwillu im doing this thru ssh clients so i dont think.. unset ?
[11:23] <rfdparker2002> hello, does anyobdy know anything about the status of a driver for the camera in the Lenovo 3000 N100 (http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/#pid87690), because the camera in my friends macbook is start to get on my nerves
[11:23] <mjbrooks> Yggdrasil: mutella
[11:23] <cwillu> Yggdrasil, don't think it'd even work actually;  you could do something like xmove though
[11:23] <cwillu> if you're after remote access as opposed to console
[11:24] <Yggdrasil> mutella huh
[11:24] <mjbrooks> yup
[11:24] <cwillu> Yggdrasil, really, I'm just trying really really hard to drown out mjbrooks' suggestion
[11:24] <Yggdrasil> ill take a look at it
[11:24] <cwillu> and apparently failing at that
[11:24] <mjbrooks> lol
[11:24] <Yggdrasil> well its strange because btdownloadcurses worked great for .. quite some time
[11:24] <mjbrooks> cwillu: don't like mutella?
[11:24] <Yggdrasil> but in the last few months its been buggy
[11:25] <cwillu> mjbrooks, never heard of it actually, just feeling contrary
[11:25] <mjbrooks> hahahaha
[11:25] <mjbrooks> cwillu: do you listen to music streams at all?
[11:25] <cwillu> mjbrooks, pandora pretty much exclusively
[11:25] <scumbag> i have two partitions i want to join into one but my root partition is between them in gparted "partition1 - root - partition2" how would i go about that? anyone?
[11:25] <rfdparker2002> hello, does anyobdy know anything about the status of a driver for the camera in the Lenovo 3000 N100 (hello, does anyobdy know anything about the status of a driver for the camera in the Lenovo 3000 N100 (http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/#pid87690)?
[11:26] <mjbrooks> what do you stream with?
[11:26] <cwillu> mjbrooks, I find it handy to be able to grab nice complete mp3's
[11:26] <cwillu> mjbrooks, pandora.com, flash site (fp9)
[11:26] <mjbrooks> oooh
[11:26] <bullgard5> What configuration file stores my static route to the gateway?
[11:27] <cwillu> bullgard5, /etc/network/interfaces has a default gateway option for each interface
[11:27] <andel> i'm trying to configre xgl with compiz - but i can't find gnome-window-decorator - any ideas where can i get it?
[11:28] <cwillu> andel, think it might have been renamed, not sure though;  might have better luck in the ubuntu xgl channel
[11:28] <cwillu> !xgl
[11:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:28] <cwillu> bullgard5, man route in the files section
[11:29] <Lc001> do you guys use xchat _
[11:29] <Yggdrasil> well ill just try to ...see whats goin on with btdownloadcurses
[11:29] <andel> thanks cwillu
[11:30] <bullgard5> cwillu: My /etc/network/interfaces lists dhcp entries, no static routes.
[11:30] <scumbag> can anyone help me please?
[11:30] <ferronica> Zewey: you mean it will install it from site
[11:31] <scumbag> im the invisible man
[11:31] <Lc001> how can i see users tab always in xchat ?
[11:31] <Zewey> ferronica: yes. it does the same thing as add/remove applications
[11:31] <Lc001> how can i disable oto channel listing ?
[11:32] <mjbrooks> scumbag: what's the question?
[11:32] <SubMOA> howdy all how doyou kill a process from cli... top, then k, then the process number... then what?
[11:32] <SubMOA> howdy all how doyou kill a process from cli... top, then k, then the process number... then what?
[11:32] <cwillu> bullgard5, what do you need to do?
[11:32] <scumbag> i have two partitions i want to join into one but my root partition is between them in gparted "partition1 - root - partition2" how would i go about that?
[11:32] <bullgard5> cwillu: the'FILES' section of 'man route' mentions only files in the /proc directory. These are no genuine configuration files.
[11:32] <mjbrooks> SubMOA: that's it
[11:33] <SubMOA> it says
[11:33] <Nabiki> Anyone know the differences between Dapper and Edgy?  Some apps seem to act totally differently.
[11:33] <Zewey> Lc001: maybe you should use gaim
[11:33] <SubMOA> Kill PID 28261 with signal [15] :
[11:33] <Lc001> Zewey: ' w'll try now
[11:33] <SubMOA> mjbrooks, do i type anything after the ":"... it isn't killing the process
[11:33] <bullgard5> cwillu: To set up my LAN properly. Feisty does not recover from Suspend-to-RAM.
[11:33] <mjbrooks> is it your process??
[11:34] <cwillu> bullgard5, elaborate?
[11:34] <scumbag> mjbrooks: i have two partitions i want to join into one but my root partition is between them in gparted "partition1 - root - partition2" how would i go about that?
[11:34] <bimberi> SubMOA: try 9 then
[11:34] <SubMOA> bimberi, "no such process"
[11:34] <bullgard5> cwillu: I understand your remark that I should be more verbose. But in what respect?
[11:35] <mjbrooks> SubMOA: kill -s 15 28261
[11:35] <cwillu> bullgard5, what is broken?
[11:35] <cwillu> just a default gateway, or some custom routes
[11:35] <bimberi> SubMOA: no, as the answer to "Kill PID [blah]  with signal [15] :"
[11:35] <SubMOA> hmm..
[11:35] <ferronica> Zewey: then why add/remove programme didnt showed me Xchm when i typed XCHM???
[11:36] <SubMOA> bimberi, any reason it's not dying like a nice subvert?
[11:36] <scumbag> whatever
[11:36] <bimberi> SubMOA: no idea.
[11:36] <mjbrooks> scumbag: did you mount the partition?
[11:36] <SubMOA> damn
[11:36] <SubMOA> ok, thanks
[11:36] <Zewey> ferronica: a lot of applications, especially non-GUI ones, are like that
[11:36] <scumbag> i think so
[11:36] <kraypius> Anyone, where are my crash reports stored?
[11:36] <piranesi> hi, what does it happen if I install two tistro and I set the same swap partition for both?
[11:36] <mjbrooks> where did you mount it?
[11:37] <bullgard5> cwillu: The word 'broken' is ambiguous in my situation. I want to set up my Ethernet correctly. Besides, this may help that Ubuntu will recover correctly from Suspend-to-RAM.
[11:37] <scumbag> mjbrooks: gparted
[11:37] <ferronica> Zewey: DO you know any book to learn
[11:37] <piranesi> I would like to mount the swap for ubuntu and the swap for gentoo in /dev/sda2
[11:37] <Zewey> ferronica: i'm not sure what determines packages go in there. might depend on debian or ubuntu devs
[11:38] <mjbrooks> scumbag: you created it with gparted   but that doesn't mount it
[11:38] <Zewey> ferronica: books for? Linux?
[11:38] <ferronica> Zewey: how u learned ubuntu
[11:38] <ferronica> Zewey: for ubuntu
[11:38] <Zewey> ferronica: look for the Apress and O'Reilly ubuntu books
[11:38] <scumbag> jbrooks: i selected mount partition
[11:39] <mjbrooks> scumbag: so you mounted it?  where did you mount it to?
[11:39] <cwillu> bullgard5, do you need anything more than a correct default gateway?  (it's rare to need more than that)
[11:39] <Zewey> ferronica: just sort of clicked around, read the menus and option windows, search on forums if i had any ideas
[11:39] <kraypius> where is information on my crashes located?
[11:39] <mjbrooks> scumbag: you should just be able to browse to where you mounted it
[11:40] <scumbag> jbrooks: /dev/sda3
[11:40] <scumbag> yes
[11:40] <bullgard5> cwillu: Two books state that I need a static route to my gateway (an ADSL router).
[11:40] <scumbag> jbrooks: thats not my problem... my problem is that i want to join two partitions into one.. but my root partition is right in between them
[11:41] <mjbrooks> scumbag: do you have a console open?
[11:41] <cwillu> bullgard5, if you only have one gateway on that subnet, you just need the default route
[11:41] <scumbag> now i have
[11:41] <cwillu> bullgard5, if your ip is staticly assigned, then add a gateway line to the appropriate section of /etc/networking/interfaces
[11:41] <mjbrooks> scumbag: type 'mount' in the terminal
[11:41] <ferronica> Zewey: how do i uninstall CHM viewer
[11:42] <cwillu> bullgard5, the default gateway is a static route (in a sense of the word)
[11:42] <Zewey> ferronica: "sudo aptitude purge gnochm", or untick it in Add/Remove
[11:42] <bullgard5> cwillu: cwillu: DHCP has changed the IP address of one of my computers in the LAN. I do not want this to happen again.
[11:42] <scumbag> jbrooks: just did
[11:42] <mjbrooks> scumbag: where does it say /dev/sda3 is mounted on?
[11:42] <scumbag> jbrooks: its not there
[11:42] <cwillu> bullgard5, then you don't want to use dhcp;  but that's not really a good way to do it
[11:43] <l90bpm>  OpenWrt sounds absolutely magnificent, but I fall under part 2.2 of the Faq.. lol  so I believe I will familiarize myself with linux a lil more before I go there..
[11:43] <mjbrooks> scumbag: then it isn't mounted
[11:43] <cwillu> bullgard5, your dhcp server might have an option to permanently assign an ip address to a given mac address (network card)
[11:43] <ferronica> Zewey: i think commnd works better then GUI, from where you get all these command
[11:43] <scumbag> jbrooks: ok lets say I mount it.. then what?
[11:43] <cwillu> bullgard5, but using dhcp is a much better approach than manually setting static ip's and routes on each machine you have
[11:43] <mjbrooks> scumbag: then you can access it
[11:43] <dee> Hello i just tried installing beryl and there is something wrong with my xorg.conf settings right now. X-server cant start! I tried to sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it cant display it or something :P ?
[11:44] <Zewey> what interesting/weird stuff can you do with a WRT router? i have one with DD-WRT, but haven't really look around for ideas :p
[11:44] <AzMoo> mjbrooks, are you even reading what he's saying?
[11:44] <scumbag> jbrooks: but that is not what im trying to do...
[11:44] <scumbag> jbrooks: thats not my problem... my problem is that i want to join two partitions into one.. but my root partition is right in between them
[11:44] <cwillu> Zewey, I've played with putting an openvpn endpoint on one
[11:44] <l90bpm> not to mention my WRT54G is not supported (version 5)  Although I'm sure I could just roll back to v4
[11:44] <Zewey> ferronica: funny thing is, i can't remember. mostly picked up by randomly reading stuff
[11:45] <Zewey> cwillu: hmm, dd-wrt has that. haven't had a need for vpn yet though :)
[11:45] <mjbrooks> scumbag: I'm sure you had said you wanted to access it
[11:45] <bullgard5> cwillu: I am not well acquainted with DHCP. I think the router and all my computers are equipped with DHCP. So what computer should I examine for its DHCP options?
[11:45] <mjbrooks> scumbag: my bad
[11:45] <piranesi> dee, use sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:45] <aalhamad> how can i print the text i've writting in the teminal?
[11:45] <ferronica> Zewey: Okay, can i install win98Se over ubuntu 6.06
[11:45] <cwillu> bullgard5, the idea behind dhcp is that you move all the network settings that are specific to a site to the dhcp server, which basically never moves from the site
[11:45] <bullgard5> cwillu: But static routes are easier to comprehend and repair.
[11:46] <ferronica> Zewey: Is that possible
[11:46] <dee> piranesi: thanks, hmm is there a way to get from irssi to bash? so i dont have to quit irssi? :P
[11:46] <cwillu> bullgard5, if you only have one gateway, you shouldn't ever _have_ to repair them
[11:46] <l90bpm> why not take a screen shot?
[11:46] <cwillu> bullgard5, it's a problem you'd only have if you had to manually adjust a handful or more machines
[11:46] <piranesi> dee I don't know because I don't use that IRC client
[11:46] <Zewey> ferronica: win98se? not sure... it should, if it doesn't overwrite the grub (the bios boot choice thing) like XP
[11:46] <dee> oh :P
[11:46] <dee> exit
[11:47] <Zewey> ferronica: try searching forums
[11:47] <ferronica> Zewey: as i think to install win98se it will format hdd
[11:47] <cwillu> bullgard5, it sounds like the only problem you have is getting the dhcp statically _assigning_ the addresses to machines (which still dynamically retrieve those statically assigned addresses (am I making any sense?))
[11:47] <Zewey> ferronica: what PC do you have?
[11:47] <ferronica> Zewey: Assembled
[11:48] <bullgard5> cwillu: I have an ADSL router, one Window machine and two Ubuntu machines (which have Windows also but which I do use rarely).
[11:48] <cwillu> bullgard5, yep
[11:48] <Zewey> ferronica: sorry, i meant what kind of specs do it have. e.g. processor, RAM
[11:48] <cwillu> bullgard5, I've got a laptop, an 2 xp and 3 ubuntu's,
[11:48] <ferronica> Zewey: build own
[11:48] <cwillu> bullgard5, you really want to use dhcp
[11:48] <cwillu> bullgard5, what brand of router?
[11:49] <bullgard5> cwillu: Yes, you are right.
[11:49] <ferronica> Zewey: intel 865GBF MOBO, 2GB RAM, 3.0 Ghz Processor, Nvidia Fx5200 Graphic card
[11:49] <bullgard5> cwillu: The router is 'FritzBox!Fon', a German product.
[11:49] <arejay> Does anyone know how to change the fonts of the VC? (console, not x11)
[11:50] <Zewey> ferronica: you should be able to just run win98 in a vmware or something like that, lol :P
[11:50] <cwillu> bullgard5, look at the dhcp server's config (probably the router), and look for something like static dhcp config:  what you want to do is tell it that particular machines (or hardware addresses technically) shouild _always_ be assigned the same address, no matter how long its been since they've been seen on the network.
[11:50] <ferronica> Zewey: what u mean
[11:50] <l90bpm> Why on earth would anyone still be using windows 98?  Would you like my old product key for windows pro 2k?
[11:51] <ferronica> Zewey: my PC congif is not good
[11:51] <arejay> I ran into a windows me setup the other day
[11:51] <arejay> :(
[11:51] <l90bpm> ISO's aren't hard to find
[11:51] <cwillu> bullgard5, if it doesn't have it, you could run a dhcp server off one of the other machines, although it's a little less reliable/trickier to set up unless one of them is acting as a server already
[11:51] <bullgard5> cwillu: Yes I will do that. That may take me some time.
[11:51] <cwillu> bullgard5, np
[11:52] <cwillu> bullgard5, you can definately do it manually (default gateway is exactly what you need to mess with in that case), but I'd avoid it if I could
[11:52] <linxeh> l90bpm: did you buy windows retail ?
[11:52] <l90bpm> are you talking about the old 2k copy I mentioned?
[11:52] <cwillu> yes, yes he is
[11:53] <cwillu> he's definately not offering you an oem key :p
[11:53] <l90bpm> It came from Eastman Chemical Company in Kingsport TN, got it @ an auction
[11:53] <Zewey> lol
[11:53] <oxigen> hi guys! how can i add custom compiled program in menu (applications)?
[11:53] <l90bpm> well..  lol
[11:53] <l90bpm> it's the truth
[11:53] <l90bpm> it's legit
[11:53] <cwillu> oxigen, right click on desktop, 'add launcher'
[11:53] <Zewey> oxigen: you just need to write your own .desktop file
[11:53] <l90bpm> I don't use it anymore
[11:53] <oxigen> hmm
[11:54] <bimberi> oxigen: Use the menu editor.  Right-click on "Applications"
[11:54] <cwillu> oxigen, pick your poison :p
[11:54] <Zewey> oops. bad method. *retracts statement* :P
[11:54] <oxigen> :)
[11:54] <linxeh> l90bpm: chances are you can only use it in the machine it came with then, unless it was a retail boxed version
[11:54] <cafuego_> oxigen: Plonk a properly formatted .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/
[11:54] <l90bpm> no no..
[11:54] <oxigen> thanks guy!
[11:54] <oxigen> +s
[11:54] <oxigen> :)
[11:54] <cafuego_> oxigen: and then call /usr/bin/update-mime-database
[11:54] <l90bpm> this one I have used on a variety of machines (one machine at a time)
[11:54] <linxeh> l90bpm: oh sure, it will work, but the licence forbids you
[11:55] <linxeh> anyway, this is getting off topic :)
[11:55] <l90bpm> really?
[11:55] <oxigen> quite complicated, huh?! :)
[11:55] <cwillu> boxed is fine, one at a time
[11:55] <l90bpm> figured I could give it away, no harm done..  it's bought and paid for
[11:55] <cafuego_> No necessarily, the menu editor is probably an easier way :-)
[11:55] <linxeh> check the EULA :)
[11:55] <l90bpm> just felt sorry for the 98 user is all
[11:56] <l90bpm> well ok.. sorry..
[11:56] <billy> oxigen:  yeah.  use the menu editor.  right click application > edit menus > select where you want to put it.
[11:56] <oxigen> ok, thanks!
[11:56] <cwillu> l90bpm, the answer to that is 'oo-bun-too'
[11:56] <cwillu> :p
[11:56] <l90bpm> well no shiznit
[11:56] <l90bpm> I agree
[11:57] <l90bpm> but if a dual boot is absulutely essential.. 98 is not the way to go
[11:57] <cwillu> I'd sure love it if somebody knew a command line tool to move an x window
[11:57] <billy> oxigen:  new item > name it and such.  for "command", use "browse" to find the executable file, wherever you put it.
[11:57] <cwillu> l90bpm, keeps you from getting comfortable ;)
[11:57] <l90bpm> dang, bet it would make a quad core run stupid
[11:58] <cwillu> does 98 support that?
[11:58] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:58] <cwillu> would expect one core to run full speed
[11:58] <rapha> How to disable 'screen lock on lid close' in Feisty?
[11:58] <billy> Vamo Rapha!
[11:58] <remoteCtrl> hi, when scanning it says g_NCR5280:1524 timeout and stalls --- there's a way to tell ncr to wait some more for device to be ready ?
[11:58] <rapha> billy: Doesn't that mean "let's go!" in Spanish? :)
[11:58] <cwillu> rapha, check the power properties in the control menu
[11:58] <arfy> hi all. My laptop has a sigmaTel C-major audio soundcard on-board. It appears that under linux it can only function as a single-channnel sound card, i.e, only 1 sound can play at a time. Is there a way to have sound mixing? I've seen references to dmixer, but not sure how to enable it or if it's enabled by default. Any ideas?
[11:59] <cwillu> rapha, otherwise, gconf-editor -> power will have a bunch of settings
[11:59] <billy> rapha:  Feisty talk is #ubuntu+1.
[11:59] <rapha> Ah k
[11:59] <rapha> thx cwillu
[11:59] <jrib> cwillu: look into xprop's man page (no promises)
[11:59] <cwillu> jrib, thx
[12:00] <l90bpm> but no, I do know the difference between OEM and "My Copy"      Windoze OEM - Can only make the original machine run crappy
[12:00] <linxeh> wtf ?
[12:01] <linxeh> "OEM" is just means it is windows shipped with hardware by an oem, usually preinstalled. it has nothing to do with performance
[12:01] <rapha> cwillu: lock_use_screensaver_settings to true does the job :)
[12:01] <l90bpm> I know..doofus
[12:01] <l90bpm> I was being sarcastic
[12:01] <linxeh> oh sorry :) I'm english
[12:02] <cwillu> lol!
[12:02] <cafuego_> preinstalled windows machinea always run crappy, but that's for other reasons ;-)
[12:02] <l90bpm> (don't take offense) I was only kidding
[12:02] <l90bpm> your not a doofus
[12:02] <l90bpm> here lately they started to get shiesty with the oem's..  you have to make your own now
[12:02] <linxeh> cafuego: usually because they come with alsorts of other rubbish installed - you can buy machines with  basic installs  though (usually business machines, eg those by HP etc)
[12:03] <l90bpm> bill couldn't cover the cost for cd's
[12:03] <bullgard5> cwillu: Aftermath: All your statements hold true even if I am going to use Samba for data exchange in the LAN with the Windows computer?
[12:04] <cwillu> bullgard5, do you have more than one connection on the subnet to an outside network
[12:04] <bullgard5> cwillu: No. Just one.
[12:04] <l90bpm> anyways, can anyone tell me about mounted volumes?  oh wait, don't ask a question to ask.. I know, I know..  one sec.
[12:04] <cwillu> bullgard5, I'd generally use static dhcp even for such servers, unless I had really good reason to not
[12:04] <l90bpm> I want to file share a mounted windows volume, is that possible?
[12:05] <cafuego_> linxeh: I was more referring to the fact they run windows, hence crappy.
[12:05] <linxeh> l90bpm: yep
[12:05] <bullgard5> cwillu: Ok. Thank you.
[12:05] <cwillu> bullgard5, side note, you might want to install winbind, and add wins to /etc/resolv.conf;  it'll let your linux machine resolve windows names
[12:05] <l90bpm> since home edition file sharing absolutely sucks
[12:05] <l90bpm> thank you..
[12:05] <linxeh> cafuego: I don't think that's fair any more ; modern windows performs well and is rock solid. it is just painful to use
[12:05] <AzMoo> cwillu, same thing with the alt CD
[12:05] <AzMoo> cwillu, I think I'm going to go sit in a corner and cut myself :p
[12:05] <cwillu> bullgard5, my old job, we used static manually assigned addresses for servers (corporate mandate), but had issues when the gateway ranged on occasion
[12:05] <cafuego_> linxeh: I'll agree to disagree with you there.
[12:06] <cwillu> AzMoo, down the road, not cross the tracks
[12:06] <linxeh> cafuego: heh - on which bit ?
[12:06] <AzMoo> cwillu, Indeedy.
[12:06] <cwillu> AzMoo, I really want to blame your computer;  I've installed I-don't-know-how-many machines with the alt cd :/
[12:06] <cafuego_> linxeh: "modern windows performs well and is rock solid"
[12:06] <cwillu> bullgard5, gateway changed rather
[12:07] <cafuego_> linxeh: Not like the rocks I'm used to ;-)
[12:07] <billy> AzMoo: I've had install CD's go bad on me before.  May be the DVD ... maybe.
[12:07] <AzMoo> cwillu, I can only blame the specific hardware configuration. Every single part, in different configurations, has had ubuntu installed on it with no problem.
[12:07] <cwillu> bullgard5, and you still have to make sure the dhcp server isn't going to assign the static address to another machine while the server is down if that ever happened
[12:07] <AzMoo> billy, 3 different discs.
[12:07] <billy> AzMoo: whoah.
[12:07] <cwillu> AzMoo, sure the drive is still good?
[12:07] <cwillu> can you swap it out?
[12:07] <bullgard5> cwillu: Well, thank you again. I will now prepare for DHCP background first.
[12:08] <fulhack> Quick question. I'm running Linux 2.6.20 (just grabbed it off-of the repos). I've also downloaded the src for the same. Can I compile a module with the src, and then just load it into my kernel?
[12:08] <linxeh> cafuego: the only reason windows isn't stable these days is poorly written software running with administrative permissions, or broken drivers (the cause of 99.99% of BSODs). Those same problems afflict Linux too
[12:08] <cwillu> fulhack, probably, although all you need is the kernel headers (seperate lighter package)
[12:08] <AzMoo> cwillu, The drive is good. I've swapped it into another box to test it and it worked fine. I think it may be drive + mobo = death.
[12:09] <cwillu> linxeh, not really
[12:09] <fulhack> cwillu, Huh, can I run make menuconfig, etc, with just the headers? :o
[12:09] <cwillu> linxeh, closed drivers are strongly discouraged, as are root programs
[12:09] <AzMoo> cwillu, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-339238.html <-- ronacc's comment is the only thing I can find that makes any kind of sense.
[12:09] <AzMoo> cwillu, except that it's not 2.6.19
[12:10] <l90bpm> no matter how great it "could be" you still need an anti-virus eating up all your cpu..  and on an older machine, putting it nicely..  just sucks!
[12:10] <cwillu> AzMoo, sounds like it
[12:10] <cwillu> AzMoo, said it affected 2.6.20 as well, probably been in there for a while
[12:11] <cafuego_> linxeh: They do, but I never encounter them on Linux, and always on Windows.
[12:11] <jmspeex> Can someone recommend a good imap server (using Edgy)? I looking for something easy to configure and with good default security. I've got a really simple setup, so I don't need something really powerful.
[12:11] <FP> Hi all
[12:11] <cafuego_> linxeh: In the real world, my linux desktop syats up for *months* whereas the windows one usually develops a problem after  afew days, a week at most.
[12:11] <cafuego_> jmspeex: dovecot
[12:12] <jmspeex> cafuego_: thanks
[12:12] <cafuego_> jmspeex: You'll want to use maildir to store the messages
[12:12] <cwillu> fulhack, make_config, don't think so;  sorry, wasn't sure what context you meant
[12:12] <cwillu> fulhack, I think it's still possible to compile those modules with just the headers, but of course you probably don't have the source of them without the full source
[12:13] <l90bpm> I can't complain there, I do have one xp machine that get's rebooted about once a week..  but it's still dookie
[12:13] <fulhack> cwillu, Oh, ok, no problem. Thought I missed something there ;)
[12:13] <AzMoo> cwillu, ah well. I'm going to give up. Thanks for all the help.
[12:13] <jmspeex> cafuego_: why is that?
[12:13] <cwillu> AzMoo, from the sounds of it, you should be able to skip, and then just install the generic kernel afterwards via chroot
[12:13] <l90bpm> hey cwillu, what is your opinion on installing openwrt onto a v5?
[12:13] <cwillu> AzMoo, its just a matter of the installer getting confused
[12:13] <cwillu> l90bpm, cool thing to do?
[12:13] <F00BaR> hi, can anyone support me installing ISPconfig please?
[12:14] <l90bpm> well I noticed they only listed to v4
[12:14] <cwillu> l90bpm, sorry, it's been a year since I actually did that to any wrt;  can't even remember which rev it was exactly
[12:14] <l90bpm> it's ok
[12:14] <jmspeex> cafuego_: I was thinking of just copying the mbox files from my Firefox setup.
[12:14] <linxeh> cafuego: In the real world before I switched totally to linux, my Windows XP box would stay up for weeks (reboots to install core security fixes). One needs to reboot a linux/whatever machine to install kernel updates too
[12:14] <linxeh> why use maildir?
[12:14] <cwillu> l90bpm, very handy though if you've got handheld telnet terminals that only need to read data (no send)
[12:15] <cafuego_> jmspeex: That'll be fine, you can then beam them to the imap server within thunderbird.
[12:15] <linxeh> l90bpm: you'll need antivirus on linux or any other platform too once it becomes a viable target
[12:15] <cwillu> l90bpm, as you can jack up the power way _way_ higher than the actual legal unlicenced power
[12:15] <cwillu> strong signal, but it doesn't help the return path :p
[12:15] <l90bpm> The main reason I don't mind it on that machine is it hasa dual core processor and 1gig of ram so I don't notice the slow down,
[12:15] <cwillu> linxeh, no, not really
[12:15] <jmspeex> cafuego_: I'm just planning on using it to replace my local mail folder so I can read stuff when I'm away.
[12:15] <cafuego_> linxeh: with mbox you're kinda stuck with uw-imap, no?
[12:16] <cwillu> linux doesn't give arbitrary files execute permissions
[12:16] <l90bpm> wouldn't it need root?
[12:16] <l90bpm> the virus I mean..
[12:16] <tdn> When a user logs in to Gnome on my system, she gets this error message: ``The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly. You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it. Or you can restart the application right now. [Restart app.]  [close]  [inform developers] ''. I have another user on the same system. This user can log in to KDE without any errors. All this started happening after an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10. What can be the cause? How d
[12:16] <linxeh> cwillu: there are hundreds of exploits in third party code though - open office, whatever
[12:16] <l90bpm> I know there's been a couple linux virus's.. but you never hear anyone talk about them
[12:16] <cwillu> linxeh, no, there's hundreds of vulnerabilities:  not the same thing at all
[12:17] <cafuego_> jmspeex: Yeh, that's what I do, but you do need to populate the imap server somehow :-)
[12:17] <linxeh> cwillu: and there are code execution exploits for many of them
[12:17] <cwillu> and even then, it has to have write permissions to a file that has execute permissions, and that will actually be run
[12:17] <linxeh> not if its sole goal is reproduce via email, and delete peoples files or to send confidential data ?
[12:17] <cwillu> linxeh, many of hundreds != hundreds, assuming that in the first place;  linux simply doesn't have the all or nothing exploits that windows pre vista had
[12:17] <linxeh> cwillu: the applications do though
[12:18] <jmspeex> cafuego_: Well, I can either copy over IMAP or just copy the mbox files. What did you do?
[12:18] <cwillu> linxeh, no, apps generally don't have write permissions to themselves, and only very very rarely run as root in order to be able to override that
[12:18] <cwillu> no application should ever be installed with write permissions on the files
[12:18] <linxeh> sigh
[12:19] <cafuego_> jmspeex: I had a couple of GB of mail; I ran a script on my mbox files to convert 'em to maildir
[12:19] <l90bpm> I do agree that nothing is unhackable..
[12:19] <jmspeex> cafuego_: Where can I get that script?
[12:19] <linxeh> why does it need to write to itself? as long as you can exploit something to get your code running here and now (buffer overflow, whatever), then it can do whatever. At that point it could start deleting files, set up a new file in users home dir, crontab it to run at midnight, start emailing files, whatever
[12:19] <cwillu> l90bpm, nobody's arguing that :)
[12:19] <l90bpm> nothing I have heared of anyway
[12:20] <cafuego_> jmspeex: You don't want it, it would mean using cyrus, which uses a non-optimal way of storing mail.
[12:20] <l90bpm> except maybe blu-ray and I think I read somewhere they almost have that taken care of, am I right?
[12:20] <cwillu> l90bpm, linxeh:  the trick is that in order to get the massive infections that windows has (the ones that necessitate an antivirus), you have to have a suitable volume of vulnerable hosts, all in the same timeframe to reinfect
[12:20] <l90bpm> sorry if I'm out of the loop
[12:21] <cafuego_> jmspeex: However: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/
[12:22] <jmspeex> cafuego_: What's the reason for not using mbox?
[12:22] <cafuego_> jmspeex: it means the imap server has to potentially open a HUGE file
[12:22] <jmspeex> cafuego_: Which means?
[12:22] <cafuego_> jmspeex: The tardeoff is that with imap it has to open *lots* of small ones
[12:23] <jmspeex> cafuego_: Well, imap can use mbox, no?
[12:23] <cafuego_> jmspeex: With a singe large mbox file, it has to parse the file to figure out where messages start and end.
[12:23] <Hallage> Hello guys. Can anyone give me a link to WORKING drivers for my nVidia GeForce 6600GT running on Feisty? Ive googled for about 5 hours with no actual success - everything either segfaults X or renders incorrectly
[12:23] <jmspeex> So it's "just" performance?
[12:23] <cafuego_> jmspeex: Some imap servers can, yup. uw-imap is one.
[12:23] <l90bpm> I want to be safe as the next guy but when it comes down to it..  I would only waste a hacks time..  no financial info..  nothing to hide..  you might find some pics of my kids on a few of these machines, you might say my taste in music sucks..  but all in all.. just don't see much need in bogging down my system..  I just want to protect my hardware is all
[12:23] <cafuego_> jmspeex: I also like the fact I can manually delete single messages off the imap server.
[12:23] <jmspeex> cafuego_: Oh, I thought you meant that dovecot could use both, but using maildir was better.
[12:24] <cafuego_> jmspeex: I don't know if dovecot can do mbox...
[12:24] <jmspeex> cafuego_: You don't need to convince me of IMAP's benefit :-)
[12:24] <cafuego_> jmspeex: No, it's a benefit of maildir, not imap :-)
[12:25] <cafuego_> Ok, dovecot uses mbox with a self-generated index file (which would speed things up)
[12:25] <jmspeex> cafuego_: How safe is it to let dovecot exposed to the Internet (i.e. open the IPAM/SSL port on my firewall)?
[12:25] <cafuego_> jmspeex: About as safe as any exposed service
[12:25] <jmspeex> cafuego_: Do you let it open?
[12:25] <cafuego_> jmspeex: If I didn't my clients would get very angry ;-)
[12:26] <Hallage> Hello guys. Can anyone give me a link to WORKING drivers for my nVidia GeForce 6600GT running on Feisty? Ive googled for about 5 hours with no actual success - everything either segfaults X or renders incorrectly
[12:26] <slamBrick> Help Nvidia xorg.conf is giving me a HAL init error ????
[12:26] <l90bpm> isn't it in the guide?
[12:26] <jmspeex> cafuego: Not all services are alike. I feel a lot more comfortable opening a port for openssh than for wu_ftpd :-)
[12:27] <cafuego_> jmspeex: true, but then again, an exposed openssh means you'll get bruteforce attacks almost constantly.
[12:27] <rizhun> Which works better on Linux, nVidia or ATI ?
[12:27] <cwillu> nvidea
[12:27] <piranesi> ATI sux
[12:27] <cafuego_> jmspeex: I certainly have no concerns about exploits at this stage.
[12:27] <erUSUL> rizhun: nvidia imnsho
[12:27] <cwillu> ati's got a better opensource driver though
[12:27] <hdxx> rizhun: atu sux big time
[12:27] <hdxx> ati*
[12:27] <cafuego_> rizhun: Older (9600 based) ATI cards are best, as they're supported by the open drivers.
[12:28] <piranesi> cwillu ati's open source driver makes scrolling to go shitty
[12:28] <cafuego_> rizhun: If you want  anewer card, the nvidia drivers are of superior quality to the ATI ones.
[12:28] <cwillu> piranesi, ?
[12:28] <rizhun> Interesting, thanks guys.
[12:28] <cwillu> piranesi, I think you're talking about composite + ati, which is a slightly different issue
[12:28] <cafuego_> rizhun: .. and if you want to run 64bit, again nvidia is the better choice (excepting the open drivers)
[12:28] <piranesi> cwillu with my 9600 and open source driver the scrolling of windows is very slow
[12:29] <cwillu> piranesi, I had the same problem, it's a composite issue
[12:29] <l90bpm> that is one thing that sucks about my acer..  ATI
[12:29] <piranesi> cwillu I disabled composite and it's the same thing
[12:29] <F00BaR> hi, can anyone support me installing ISPconfig please?
[12:29] <F00BaR> hi, can anyone support me installing ISPconfig please?
[12:29] <F00BaR> oops
[12:29] <F00BaR> sorry
[12:29] <l90bpm> like the handle foobar
[12:30] <piranesi> cwillu what card do you have?
[12:30] <cwillu> piranesi, whole bunch of different ati's, single and dual headed agp and pci's
[12:30] <F00BaR> 190bpm, sorry?
[12:30] <l90bpm> the name
[12:30] <Hallage> Can anyone give me a link to WORKING drivers for my nVidia GeForce 6600GT running on Feisty? Ive googled for about 5 hours with no actual success - everything either segfaults X or renders incorrectly? Id be much obliged if you could
[12:30] <F00BaR> 190bpm :)
[12:31] <l90bpm> old cb talk from a young mouth
[12:31] <CoRnJuLiOx> where can i find the module named 'hid'?
[12:31] <cwillu> the slowness is an issue with texturing, only shows up when composite is in use;  if you had that, either composite was still active (active by default since edgy), or you had some other issue
[12:31] <slamBrick> Same card here Hallage do you get HAL errors?
[12:31] <cwillu> it's definately not normal to experience slow scrolling on ati
[12:31] <Hallage> slamBrick: How do I tell what a HAL erro looks like? [/GNUbie] 
[12:31] <Hallage> error*
[12:31] <cwillu> piranesi, want me to take a look at your config?
[12:31] <Hallage> My screen goes crazily pixellated if that means anything, slamBrick
[12:32] <l90bpm> speeking of scrolling..   I can't live w/o Firefox's add-on "Smooth Wheel"
[12:32] <piranesi> and did you see a 9600 going well with open source driver? I had 14fps in ut2004 demo with open source driver and 60! with fglrx, I never solved the scrolling problem with open source driver (I disabled compostie in xorg.conf putting the relative section) is it right?
[12:32] <l90bpm> pdf bliss
[12:33] <l90bpm> or webpage bliss.. depending on where you do most of your reading
[12:33] <Hallage> slamBrick: Is it the same problem? All I can tell you is I get a WIERD pixelly mass on my screen
[12:33] <slamBrick> I get these error messages after setting up my 6600gt card
[12:33] <l90bpm> I get that when I hook up the s-video to my nvidia card (tv-cast)
[12:34] <l90bpm> looks like an atri game that needs to blown.. lol
[12:34] <l90bpm> atari*
[12:34] <slamBrick> No no pilexated mess like that. did you follow the driver guide ?
[12:35] <Hallage> slamBrick: I followed EVERY driver guide :-p. Im currently using vesa
[12:35] <cwillu> piranesi, did you run it in 16-bit?
[12:35] <l90bpm> I simply haven't got that far yet..   did the 6.06 upgrade to 6.10 today and called it quits.. gonna install the nvidia stuff tomorrow
[12:35] <slamBrick> Lol :)
[12:35] <SheaTara> I have a bcm4318 card, and when I upgraded from dapper to edgy, it won't load the ndiswrapper module anymore
[12:36] <cwillu> piranesi, that's generally the biggest thing (that isn't detected correctly still) about the ati's
[12:36] <slamBrick> have you added the menu item for the nvidia control applet?
[12:36] <l90bpm> it removes a lot of 3rd party drivers in the process, does it not?
[12:36] <l90bpm> mine sure as hell did
[12:36] <CoRnJuLiOx> 'modprobe hid' doesn't work on me. where can i get the hid module?
[12:36] <Hallage> slamBrick: Eh? Applications>systools>Nvidia X settings?
[12:36] <l90bpm> oops..   sorry people..  I know..  family oriented
[12:36] <slamBrick> yea thats it
[12:37] <Hallage> Yup, all checked
[12:38] <slamBrick> I could not make the changes checked with it. I had to manually cut the commands out and stick them into xorg.conf
[12:39] <slamBrick> then I found out I had line wrap errors with things running into a new line causing X to fail
[12:39] <slamBrick> Now I get a Initialised HAL error after rebooting. I'm trying to find out what it is!
[12:40] <cwillu> I guess I win :/
[12:41] <cwillu> or he's resetting and trying it
[12:42] <l90bpm> good morning to the 50 of you that just entered the room..  jeez
[12:43] <sven__> moin..
[12:43] <slamBrick> Hallage has anyone actually offered to help via this chat room???
[12:44] <Hallage> slamBrick: Not for this incident, no
[12:44] <Hallage> slamBrick: I have gotten a fair bit of help before, though
[12:44] <sven__> ich hab ubuntu 6.10 und wollte grad den ldap client einrichten..aber ich konnte nicht..die packete die ich installieren wollte gibts nicht mehr..(e.g. nscd)..hab auch grad nach nem how to gesucht aber nix gefunden..kann mir da einer was sagen?
[12:44] <l90bpm> most of us are in need of help ourselves (speaking for myself anyhow)
[12:44] <slamBrick> OK it seems there is a fair bit of Entering and Leaving the room and not much else
[12:44] <sven__> lol..in english :D
[12:44] <cwillu> Hallage, did you say you had any lucky with vesa?
[12:45] <bullgard4> What is the command to determine which host is the DHCP server in a TCP/IP LAN?
[12:45] <cwillu> sven__:
[12:45] <cwillu> !ge
[12:45] <ubotu>       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[12:45] <Hallage> cwillu: Yeah, it works with Vesa at a fair performance hits - and some games dont work
[12:45] <cwillu> hmm
[12:45] <cwillu> wrong one :p
[12:45] <predaeus> *g*
[12:45] <l90bpm> lol
[12:46] <l90bpm> wrong ge huh?
[12:46] <MasseR> bullgard4: route? netstat?
[12:46] <cwillu> german is which two letter code?
[12:46] <predaeus> probably de
[12:46] <cwillu> !de ?
[12:46] <Hallage> .de
[12:46] <cwillu> !de
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:46] <kovi> spanish?
[12:46] <ompaul> !es
[12:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:46] <l90bpm> will that work for anyone, or is like a mod thing?
[12:46] <sven__> !ldap how to
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldap how to - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <cwillu> Hallage, did you just upgrade recently (os or video card), or is it a fresh install?
[12:47] <ompaul> cwillu, you got a pm :)
[12:47] <CoRnJuLiOx> hey, has anyone here gotten a PSX controller working on ubuntu?
[12:47] <kovi> gracuas ompaul
[12:47] <kovi> gracias
[12:47] <predaeus> !ldap
[12:47] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[12:47] <cwillu> neat :)
[12:47] <Hallage> cwillu: Yeah, I upgraded to Feisty. I had it working perfectly under Edgy
[12:48] <slamBrick> Is that because Feisty is still Beta
[12:48] <bullgard4> MasseR: 'route' outputs 4 lines. Only one contains an item in the column 'Router'. Is this the active DHCP server?
[12:48] <cwillu> Hallage, were you running the proprietary drivers before?
[12:48] <Hallage> cwillu: That is correct, yesd
[12:49] <cwillu> Hallage, can you pastebin me /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:49] <Hallage> cwillu: I might, but I think Ive found a solution by googling. If I come back on, I will
[12:49] <cwillu> Hallage, it might just be an issue of doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, possible with reinstalling the nvidea driver as well
[12:49] <cwillu> Hallage, k
[12:49] <l90bpm> cwillu, that works w/ most stuff?  just come in here and throw an exclamation point before what you need the 411 on?
[12:50] <cwillu> l90bpm, ! gets ubotu's attention basically
[12:50] <cwillu> l90bpm, if it knows something, it'll spit it out
[12:50] <bullgard4> MasseR: I cannot detect relevant DHCP information in the 'netstat' output.
[12:50] <l90bpm> I noticed for two days you all doing that, but I just thought it was some suped up AI
[12:50] <cwillu> l90bpm, you can /msg ubotu stuff to experiment in private, !message > user to send them a private, or !message | user to ping them
[12:50] <l90bpm> cool
[12:52] <nawty> Guys, anyone here ever see this problem :
[12:52] <nawty> when gonig to a tty from X in edgy + nvidia
[12:52] <nawty> going even, you can't go back to X
[12:53] <cwillu> nawty, I haven't done much with nvidea cards, although I have run into a situation where I can't get back to tty1 once I've been in X
[12:53] <cwillu> nawty, do you get corruption, or just a blank screen?
[12:53] <nawty> cwillu: mine's the other way around
[12:53] <nawty> just a blank screen
[12:53] <cwillu> I saw :p[
[12:53] <cwillu> hmm
[12:53] <nawty> and then when i restart GDM it's fine.
[12:54] <cwillu> nawty, laptop or desktop?
[12:54] <nawty> desktop
[12:55] <deep> I want to share some bandwidth to the repositories, is this possible?
[12:56] <l90bpm> that's a novel thing to do
[12:56] <cwillu> nawty, sudo vbetool post (may just crash your computer), and see if it'll let you swithc
[12:58] <deep> l90bpm, you mean me? ^^
[12:58] <l90bpm> I thought you meant w/
[12:58] <l90bpm> nm
[12:58] <deep> O_o
[12:58] <deep> What? :D
[12:58] <deep> haha
[12:59] <l90bpm> yeah, it's a cross between an elephant and a rhino..   an elephino???
[12:59] <mojo> I have a Q... In a house with 4 roommates and 1 8mbps cable connection, often one user hogs all the bandwidth with torrents and the rest of us can't even browse web pages.  We want to hack or roll our own router in hope we can load-balance.  I.e. a user A can have all 8Mbps but if user B wants usage, then it splits 50/50, if user C comes on then 33%x3, ABCD = 25%x4, but if say B only uses minimal bandwidth, the others can share the "left o
[12:59] <mojo> ver", back to where just one is demanding and can have back the whole 100% if BD&D are idle.  What package(s) do I need for that?
[01:00] <l90bpm> I just thought you were trying to put all that extra bandwidth to good use and share it with the rest of the world.. lol     (don't ask..  4hours past delerious for me)
[01:00] <deep> l90bpm, well, that's what i want to to. :D I have 10 mb/s upstream, which i rarely use. ^^
[01:00] <AnAnt> how can I install a TTF font ?
[01:01] <l90bpm> me2
[01:01] <erUSUL> !fonts > AnAnt
[01:01] <l90bpm> but I don't have the rarity that you do..\
[01:01] <cwillu> mojo, look into the linux firewall packages, there should be something useful.  You can even get into fancy stuff like loading that onto a wrt54 (linksys router)
[01:01] <WorldDomination> x-Dieu
[01:01] <deep> l90bpm, sharing is caring ;)
[01:01] <cwillu> mojo, otherwise, that's probably a littlebit out of scope for this channel :)
[01:01] <AnAnt> erUSUL: thanks
[01:01] <mojo> cwillu: yeah i know about dd-wrt and openwrt, but i mean is QoS what I am asking for or is there another name for what I want?
[01:02] <l90bpm> if you can do it, I'm sure I eventually will
[01:02] <mojo> cwillu: I am trying to figure out what features I need for my needs
[01:02] <l90bpm> just scared of my own ignorance for the time being
[01:02] <deep> !motu
[01:02] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[01:02] <l90bpm> I see
[01:03] <cwillu> mojo, qos is one possibility, but it relies on cooperation from everyone (traffic has to be accurately marked); a quota type system would work more generically, dealing with amounts of traffic from particular hosts, etc
[01:03] <deep> I just wanted the link ^^ /ignore that (:
[01:03] <l90bpm> so tell me, don't you have to harbour the packages as well?
[01:03] <cwillu> mojo, as far as normal browsing is concerned, he should be able to use almost all of the bandwidth without affecting website browsing, as long as he doesn't use _all_ of it (which it sounds like he is;  kills network performance, probably including his own)
[01:04] <CoRnJuLiOx> according to this guide im reading, i need a module called 'hid' to get my  psx->PC adapter working. where can i find this module? modprobe hid tells me it can't find it
[01:04] <deep> l90bpm, harbour?
[01:04] <mojo> cwillu: see that is what i was afraid of, that qos/quotas would hard-limit everyone to 1/4th and not everyone is always on at once.  when there is no contention, i would like it to allow full throttle.  dynamic qos I guess?
[01:04] <l90bpm> like.. have them the packages there..  like a private repository
[01:04] <l90bpm> like the way torrents work
[01:04] <cwillu> mojo, that's not really what I meant;  qos isn't a hard limit, it's just cooperative, so it may not help if he's not :)
[01:05] <erUSUL> CoRnJuLiOx: find /lib/modules/ -name '*hid*' -print
[01:05] <deep> l90bpm, you mean have the debs on my computer?
[01:05] <cwillu> mojo, the packet filter stuff should be able to be done fairly flexibly, but it might require some scripting
[01:05] <mojo> cwillu: yes, i run azureus on linux no problem, set my parameters and it hardly affects anyone.  but my roomie runs windows/bitcomet and no matter what i feed into it for parameters it is a netkilling beotch.  he does not mean to be uncooperative, but his software sucks
[01:05] <cwillu> mojo, I haven't actually done any quota work yet, so I can't say much on specifics
[01:05] <deep> l90bpm, well, i do have a 250 gig drive in the servercomputer, i can fit one or two packages in there, for sure (:
[01:05] <CoRnJuLiOx> erUSUL: thanks
[01:06] <l90bpm> I see..  gonna read about this a sec.. brb
[01:06] <mojo> cwillu: well thanks anyway ... i have been searching the net, googling, but can't find my specific answer.  like it will say "QoS", but does not detail how that works.
[01:06] <Zewey> mojo: if bitcomet is a problem why try not converting him to another client, like as you said azureus?
[01:06] <l90bpm> because nothing makes me happier than sharing.. brb
[01:07] <cwillu> Zewey, because bitcomet is known for getting extra speed through unfairness :)
[01:07] <deep> l90bpm, okay :) And i'm going to play some games :D I just installed 44 games at once ;)
[01:07] <cwillu> "why would I give that up?"
[01:07] <Zewey> cwillu: good point. :/
[01:08] <cwillu> mojo, there was a couple good firewall guides, I just can't remember what they were right now :/
[01:08] <cwillu> mojo, iptables is what you want to google I think
[01:08] <rambo3> iptables, iptables and iptables
[01:08] <Arg> thats a pretty good firewall : /
[01:09] <cwillu> ahhh, the joys of working in a pizza shop :)
[01:09] <mojo> Zewey: yeah he tried azureus but his machine is slow and apparently Az was to piggy for his box, which is slow anyway.  He has tried a couple others and hated them.  Besides that he paid for BitComet, but I think the peer pressure has just about broke him to get him to switch.  Even if I get him to switch, I still want to hack or build a router.  I eventually plan to open the wireless to the neighborhood SSID=ANARCHY and share but only if
[01:09] <mojo> I can balance it.  First is the roomies, of course...
[01:10] <ott0> i'm trying to create a new file: sudo cat > newfile
[01:10] <ott0> but bash gives an error?
[01:10] <cwillu> mojo, ya, az has some issues there (eclipse shares them)
[01:10] <rambo3> cott0 ""
[01:10] <mojo> cwillu: i can configure iptables to do that?  that would be awesome, since it's part of the kernel
[01:10] <genii> cat is for spewing a file to standard out
[01:10] <predaeus> ott0: try touch newfile
[01:10] <cwillu> mojo, let me google it a sec, I know I read a bunch about that a couple years ago
[01:10] <rambo3> ott0,  echo "" > newfile
[01:10] <Fracture> is there any way to install the mysql-server-4.1 and mysql-server-5.0 packages side by side ?
[01:11] <ott0> ah that works
[01:11] <ott0> but why doesn't cat?
[01:11] <rambo3> man cat
[01:13] <l90bpm> lmao.. nanoo to the second power
[01:13] <my-nick> help
[01:13] <ott0> oh it's looking for stdin?
[01:13] <genii> ott0 For these type of questions your best bet for answers is #bash
[01:13] <Rooy> my-nick: what's wrong?
[01:13] <ott0> ah, gocha
[01:13] <cwillu> mojo, super simple (and not quite effective for your case) is a quota that just scales them back after x mb/gb
[01:13] <my-nick> how do irestore grub boot manager
[01:13] <jpjacobs> anybody know of something like screen, but then for programs with a gui?
[01:13] <cwillu> just doesn't help you get internet before he's hit the quota
[01:14] <Rooy> !grub | my-nick
[01:14] <ubotu> my-nick: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:14] <ott0> but it's a pretty simple question, proved by the fact that you guys handled it with ease ;)
[01:14] <catxk_> I
[01:14] <mojo> cwillu: thanks for the college try.  i will just have to keep researching.  i just reached that frustration point where i said, screw it, someone will know on irc  ;)
[01:14] <catxk_> I'm trying to launch avant-windows-manager from the terminal and get "Segmentation fault (core dumped)", what does that mean?
[01:15] <cwillu> mojo, http://linuxgazette.net/108/odonovan.html might give you some ideas
[01:15] <mojo> cwillu: thanks
[01:15] <rambo3> catxk, borked
[01:15] <rambo3> cartxk_ som pointer is poining no where good in that program
[01:15] <cwillu> mojo, it'll give you some keywords to search at the very least :)
[01:16] <mojo> cwillu: cool... i am reading that page now.
[01:16] <catxk_> rambo3: mmaky, do you figure it can easily be fixed or is there no way of telling? :)
[01:16] <rambo3> catxk_, no i cant help you there its error in program . look for updates and fixes
[01:17] <l90bpm> I like your idea
[01:17] <ott0> okay, here's another dumb question.. i downloaded theme, clicked on the install theme button in theme prefs, but I don't know which file to select
[01:18] <ott0> in the theme folder there's like 12x12, 16x16...
[01:18] <ott0> this is gnome
[01:18] <rambo3> ott0, drag drop
[01:18] <predaeus> ott0: you should not unpack theme files. just provide the whole package.
[01:18] <catxk_> rambo3: darn, thanks... so, if I want to uninstall it, would I just go apt-get remove?
[01:18] <ott0> just drag the tar.gz into the window?
[01:18] <predaeus> yes
[01:18] <ott0> ah, thanks
[01:19] <rambo3> catxk_, yes . you can try --purge and reinstall it
[01:19] <rambo3> after
[01:19] <catxk_> rambo3: sorry, purge? I'm new to this :)
[01:20] <ott0> wow, that was easy
[01:20] <rambo3> apt-get --purge remove  program
[01:21] <catxk_> rambo3: thanks!
[01:21] <l90bpm> mojo, won't your sharing the connection with the whole famdamly slow your aid to the repository? or did I misunderstand you about helping the repositories?
[01:22] <mojo> l90bpm: you have me mixed up with someone else
[01:22] <james_> hello
[01:22] <l90bpm> oops
[01:23] <james__> hello
[01:23] <james__> I need some help with repo's
[01:23] <SeanTater> ndiswrapper won't load using modprobe, using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102, saying "Invalid Argument". What should I try?
[01:23] <l90bpm> your right, it was "deep"  sorry about that
[01:23] <james__> im trying to use the ubuntu repo's in deepofix
[01:23] <mojo> l90bpm: deep is the one who wants to help with the repos
[01:23] <mojo> l90bpm: :) np
[01:24] <rambo3> SeanTater, i am just guessing syntax error
[01:24] <james__> seems it cant find a release candiate, im wondering how i can get it to believe its an edgy machine no ofix one :)
[01:24] <james__> any ideas?
[01:24] <prospero31> Does anyone know what the command is to get a list of users on this channel? I'm using the irc bashc lient
[01:24] <peija-kas> james__ Feisty Release candidate isnt out yet??
[01:25] <james__> no its not feisty im tying to get
[01:25] <mfd> prospero31: /names
[01:25] <james__> im using another debian based distro
[01:25] <SeanTater> rambo3: I did this: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper -- no arguments.. It shows the file name and invalid argument... I don't think I did anything wrong, and it worked in dapper..
[01:25] <rausb0> prospero31: use irssi instead. it is also text based, but much friendlier.
[01:25] <peija-kas> james__ ahh
[01:25] <prospero31> irssi thanks for the tip
[01:25] <james__> and im trying to port in the ubuntu repo's, the lead dev of the project mentioned in our forums that our repos would work with their distro
[01:25] <james__> but everytime i try and install it claims there is no install candiate
[01:26] <james__> any ideas?
[01:27] <l90bpm> deep, how does one go about helping w/ the repositories?
[01:27] <james__> ok if no one can help me with that,....
[01:28] <genii> Yes, do sudo apt-get update    after adding the repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[01:28] <james__> can anyone tell me how to change apt-get so that the repo's timeout is sooner
[01:28] <genii> ^james^
[01:28] <deep> l90bpm, i have no idea ^^ I'll check that out later, right now i'm playing some games ;)
[01:28] <james__> genii already done that, it still says it
[01:28] <Xif> How do I get the semi-transparent title-bar effect like in this screenshot -> http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/30859-1.jpg
[01:28] <james__> i have a large list of repo's and dont want to wait for the bad ones to time out, can i lower the time out when doing apt-get update???
[01:29] <james__> its a pain atm :)
[01:29] <Huffalump> How do I probe for harddrives?  I've want to mount a drive, but don't it's exact /dev/hdxxX ...how can I get a list of those hdd devices?
[01:29] <genii> unfortunately the timeout depends on the underlying processes of wget,ftp and http default timeouts
[01:29] <james__> so know override :( ?
[01:29] <james__> *no
[01:29] <genii> so it's not easily tweakable
[01:29] <james__> ah rite i see
[01:30] <james__> guess im in for a wait! lol
[01:30] <mojo> cwillu: that was a good read.. i learned a few new things about iptables.. but i will have to keep looking for my solution.  i have time.. it will problaby be a week or two before we are ready to buy another router or the parts to build one anyway.
[01:30] <cwillu> mojo, np
[01:30] <cwillu> it's a pretty powerful system
[01:30] <wilberfan> mornin' campers...
[01:30] <IdleOne> Huffalump, type mount in terminal
[01:30] <Huffalump> thanks, IdleOne
[01:31] <Rooy> Xif: that screenshot shows compiz running ( the red cube on nitification area)
[01:31] <dee> I just installed apache2 but i had some problems with it so i uninstalled it and deleted the dir and removed it from init.d but now when i install it again it doesnt make a dir called apache2. And i cant find it? I use apt-get to install with?
[01:31] <Xif> Rooy: ok, thanks.
[01:31] <wilberfan> i just had a retrograde thought:  I wanna have my /root and /home partitions on the SAME partition
[01:32] <wilberfan> but they're separate now....
[01:32] <LOWER_CASE> IdleOne: Huffalump: doesn't 'mount' just show you what's in /etc/fstab?
[01:32] <wilberfan> is there a way to move the /home partition onto the /root?
[01:32] <my-nick> help
[01:32] <my-nick> still cant reocver my grub
[01:32] <bullgard4> What is a 'IRLAN interface'? Yelp writes: "Ethernet and IRLAN interfaces
[01:33] <ceaser> bullgard4: infrared
[01:33] <my-nick> i managed to bring up the grub load screen, but it says dat it cant mount the selected partition
[01:33] <genii> for a gui mount tool you may want pysdm
[01:33] <bullgard4> ceaser: Thank you.
[01:33] <Slart> wilberfan: sure.. just to make it clear.. you have home on a separate partition now?
[01:33] <Tintin937sang> oua
[01:33] <Tintin937sang> bsr
[01:33] <l90bpm> mojo: try seeing what your state has to offer here  www.govdeals.com
[01:33] <Tintin937sang> you are english ? :o
[01:34] <Slart> wilberfan: and you want it to be on the same partition as / ?
[01:34] <Tintin937sang> you are english ? :o
[01:34] <ceaser> bullgard4: no problem
[01:34] <l90bpm> I've bought enough to build my own cluster from these guys
[01:35] <my-nick> help
[01:35] <l90bpm> just can't afford the juice
[01:35] <Scumie> ceaser = eggdrop ?
[01:35] <my-nick> wat does initframs means?
[01:35] <ceaser> Scumie: ?
[01:35] <my-nick> *initramfs
[01:35] <Scumie> you from eggdrop developement ?
[01:36] <ceaser> Scumie: nope
[01:36] <nikin> init RAM File System
[01:36] <Scumie> k
[01:36] <ceaser> Scumie: Is there another ceaser there?
[01:36] <Scumie> yesir
[01:36] <Scumie> :>
[01:36] <genii> 190bpm I hear ya. The 20-odd machines in my house quadruple the elecric bill
[01:36] <g1gaman> how can i check system information just with one command or click in ubuntu. mostly i need to know amount of ram and cpu clock rate, but if i get ubuntu and linux kernel version and usage of harddisks it would be great
[01:36] <ceaser> Scumie: Its not me!
[01:36] <hggdh> my-nick: INITialise RAM FileSystem
[01:36] <Kooka> cya all
[01:36] <Scumie> np
[01:36] <ceaser> Scumie: that guy is an imposter :)
[01:36] <Scumie> haha
[01:36] <my-nick> hggdh: help me
[01:37] <hggdh> my-nick: if I can. what gives?
[01:37] <Slart> g1gaman: there are some hardware info applications in repos.. I haven't tried them all but some are console based.. some bash magic on top of that should get you what you want
[01:37] <my-nick> i have a hdisk with xp n ubuntu installed
[01:38] <my-nick> my xp partition are on /dev/sda1
[01:38] <my-nick> n my ubuntu are in /dev/sda6
[01:38] <Slart> !dconf
[01:38] <ubotu> dconf: collect system information. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-2 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 112 kB
[01:38] <my-nick> u uses grub to boot
[01:38] <my-nick> *i
[01:39] <g1gaman> Slart: should i install dconf?
[01:39] <MrFeetio> where is the menu(Applications/Places/System configuration file?
[01:39] <Slart> g1gaman: that's just one I found while browsing the synaptic list... try it .. see what it give you
[01:39] <hggdh> my-nick: and what happens?
[01:39] <my-nick> just now, i ACCIDENTALLY but intentionally deleted my windows xp partition coz i thot its time for me to migrate
[01:39] <rapha> Damnit... that was the last howto I could find.
[01:40] <rapha> It has got to be possible to use an ATI X700 under Feisty with _some_ sort of DRI?
[01:40] <my-nick> i forgot (or i'm stupid) dat the xp is on the mbr
[01:40] <my-nick> now dat i used livecd
[01:40] <g1gaman> Slart: there is no offlline way to check system info out?
[01:40] <Slart> g1gaman: hardinfo is another application.. it's not console base..
[01:40] <ceaser> my-nick: you just need to reinstall grub
[01:40] <my-nick> done all the find /boot/grub/stage1 thingy
[01:41] <hggdh> my-nick: yes, reinstall grub
[01:41] <Slart> g1gaman: ah.. without installing extra stuff?
[01:41] <g1gaman> Slart: exactly
[01:41] <ceaser> my-nick: try grub-install hd0
[01:41] <my-nick> i've already done it
[01:41] <Slart> g1gaman: uname -a will give you some info on kernel version..
[01:41] <hggdh> my-nick: it will take care of rebuilding the MBR
[01:41] <my-nick> but it only bring up the boot menu
[01:41] <Slart> g1gaman: df -hl will give you free space on local harddrives
[01:41] <rambo3> my-nick, root(hd0)
[01:41] <rambo3> or what you got from find
[01:41] <my-nick> when i tried to boot, it says it cant boot, unable to mount the selected partition
[01:42] <Slart> g1gaman: what else.. memory? "free" will tell you about memory...
[01:42] <my-nick> yes
[01:42] <my-nick> did that already
[01:42] <rambo3> setup(hd0,X)
[01:42] <rambo3> exit
[01:42] <g1gaman> Slart: cpu name and rate?
[01:42] <rambo3>  or /q
[01:42] <my-nick> been there
[01:42] <my-nick> done that
[01:42] <Slart> g1gaman: hmm.. I think there is a cpuinfo application.. don't know if it's installed by default
[01:43] <ceaser> my-nick: its possible that your partition numbers changed when deleting the winxp partition
[01:43] <ceaser> my-nick: check out /boot/grub/menu.lst, and make sure all of the partitions are set correctly
[01:43] <Slart> g1gaman: nope.. it isn't... you can probably get it from the /dev tree in some way.. perhaps some guru knows how =)
[01:43] <my-nick> how do i access the partition now
[01:43] <ceaser> my-nick: in grub, use the find command
[01:43] <storm-zen> Stupid noob question: Does Ubuntu automatically pick the root password?
[01:43] <my-nick> currently,i'm in grub
[01:44] <ceaser> my-nick: to look for files, it will tell you which partition they lie on
[01:44] <ikonia_> !root >storm-zen
[01:44] <Slart> g1gaman: oops.. the /proc tree
[01:44] <g1gaman> Slart: well thank you. i've wrote it all an i'll learn it by heart. once again about memory and free stuff, please..
[01:44] <MrFeetio> where is the menu(Applications/Places/System) configuration file?, I messed some stuff up and I prefer config files
[01:44] <storm-zen> thanks, ikonia.
[01:44] <ceaser> so, if you have a root partition only
[01:45] <storm-zen> Oh.  sudo is automatically installed.  Cool.  :)
[01:45] <Slart> g1gaman: just type "free" and you'll get some short info about memory.. there are some weirdness to the way free reports memory.. read the manual.. something about buffers and such
[01:45] <g1gaman> Slart: i might ask it google, but due my poior english results mostly arent usable
[01:45] <ceaser> doing find /boot/grub/menu.lst will return the partition that it lies on (in my case, (hd0,2) )
[01:45] <g1gaman> poor
[01:46] <Slart> g1gaman: free -k will get you memory in kilobytes.. swap and regular
[01:46] <hggdh> my-nick: and then you adjust /boot/grub/menu.lst accordingly
[01:46] <storm-zen> what does this mean?: gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/jae/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run ?
[01:47] <storm-zen> !gpg > storm-zen
[01:47] <g1gaman> Slart: k stands for kilobytes
[01:48] <Slart> g1gaman: yes.. perhaps -m is a better choice if you just want some quick info
[01:48] <braindead_moron> I'm trying to use dvdrip and it complains: libdvdread: Could not open /dev/hdc with libdvdcss.
[01:49] <erUSUL> !dvd > braindead_moron
[01:49] <jimcooncat> how can I ping a range of ip addresses on my LAN?
[01:49] <Xif> Is there a guide for installing the ATI OSS drivers on Edgy?
[01:49] <ikonia_> jimcooncat ping $ip_address
[01:49] <ikonia_> !ati >xif
[01:49] <titun> anyone used gmobilemedia ?
[01:49] <braindead_moron> But /dev/hdc is the dvd drive (the eject/close buttons work) and i'm running it via sudo so perms shouldb't be a prob
[01:49] <cyberfr0g> sup
[01:49] <braindead_moron> erUSUL, Didn't catch that, sorry?
[01:49] <ikonia_> braindead_moron do you have libdvdccs installed ?
[01:49] <jimcooncat> ikonia, 192,168,0.1 thru 254?
[01:49] <erUSUL> braindead_moron: you need to install  libdvdcss
[01:49] <Xif> ikonia: thanks, but that is for the binary proprietary drivers, and I want the OSS ones.
[01:49] <ikonia_> jimcooncat a while loop
[01:50] <erUSUL> braindead_moron: see the private msg from ubotu
[01:50] <ikonia_> Xif sorry - mymistake
[01:50] <jimcooncat> ikonia, thanks
[01:50] <braindead_moron> ikonia, yes , dpkg -l | grep css returns: ii  libdvdcss2                             1.2.9-0.0                              Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime
[01:50] <ikonia_> braindead_moron excellent, look at the owner ship of /dev/hdc use and group
[01:51] <titun> guys plz answer someone to me, anyone used gmobilemedia
[01:51] <rohan> i have an acer travelmate 3260 laptop. it has intel HDA onboard audio. when i plug in a headset in the slot, i want laptop speakers to be automatically disabled. is it possible ? right now, i have to manually do it.
[01:51] <ikonia_> titun no
[01:51] <rambo3> !anyone > titun
[01:51] <braindead_moron> ikonia, root/cdrom, but would that matter since I'm launching dvdrip via SUDO?
[01:51] <titun>  :(
[01:52] <Slart> How can change on what soundcard the "system beep" is played? can I?
[01:52] <braindead_moron> ikonia, I'm a member of cdrom also...
[01:52] <cyberfr0g> good
[01:52] <ikonia_> braindead_moron thats very strange
[01:52] <ravi> I have a radeon 9200 with proprietary drivers from the beginning. I now need to switch over to open source drivers in order to get a dual head configuration going with DVI working, anyone willing to help me out?
[01:52] <braindead_moron> ikonia, I did find one similar message via google: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/08/msg00303.html
[01:52] <ikonia_> ravi is it not just a case of changing the driver to radeon ?
[01:52] <rambo3> ravi its just ati driver
[01:52] <braindead_moron> ikonia, They seemed to think it was the scsi emulation....
[01:53] <bullgard4> How does Ubuntu use the information in the file /proc/net/arp?
[01:53] <ikonia_> braindead_moron ahhhh thats an interesting though
[01:53] <ikonia_> thought
[01:53] <Zewey> hmm, any way i can throttle wget downloads, like apt for example?
[01:53] <braindead_moron> ikonia, But I'm not convinced :-)
[01:53] <ravi> is it ati or radeon ??
[01:53] <ravi> both have just been suggested to me.
[01:53] <ikonia_> braindead_moron no no - thats quite a reasonable suggestion
[01:53] <titun> so any other software to browse nokia symbian 40 phones
[01:53] <rambo3> ravi radeon is part of ati drivers
[01:53] <Slart> Zewey: I think there is a setting
[01:53] <Slart> Zewey: check the long long list of options for wget
[01:53] <rambo3> ravi both are valid
[01:54] <ravi> rambo3: but I can either give the driver the name radeon or ati, which one? ah, ok rambo3
[01:54] <ikonia_> braindead_moron just having a little research, not used scsi emu for ages
[01:54] <ravi> gotchya, and how do I incorporate (autodetect) the connected dvi monitor once I switch over to the new driver?
[01:54] <braindead_moron> ikonia, I thought the IDE-CDROM stuff went the way of the Dodo in 2.6?
[01:54] <ikonia_> ravi the xserver in general should deal with auto detect
[01:55] <Zewey> Slart: ah --limit-rate. thanks :)
[01:55] <Zewey> Slart: but what about apt downloads?
[01:55] <Slart> Zewey: you're welcome =)
[01:55] <ikonia_> braindead_moron your right it does but you still need the scsi emu module loaded I think (hence my research, I'm rusty on this)
[01:55] <Nabiki> I have a semi-on/off-topic question.  What IRC clients are easily available under Ubuntu, and which are suggested.  The version of xchat that the current version of Ubuntu installs is strange.
[01:55] <ikonia_> Nabiki search synaptic - and try them, then make up your own mind
[01:55] <Slart> Zewey: I've never seen anything to limit apt-get downloads.. you'd have to install some kind of traffic shaper to do that.. if you really think it's that important
[01:56] <genii> !trickle
[01:56] <ubotu> trickle: user-space bandwidth shaper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 164 kB
[01:56] <mEck0> I have just installed streamripper, which I like a lot :) but I wonder which bitrate it records the mp3's in? Does it use the LAME-settings?
[01:56] <ravi> ikonia_ should I just use this command to update? : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:56] <Slart> Nabiki: there is a regular xchat version and a gnome xchat version.. I don't know which you thought was strange.. but try the other one..  =)
[01:56] <ikonia_> ravi thats certainly a start but for dual head you'll have to do some manual tweaking
[01:57] <ravi> ikonia_, rambo3 alrighty then, thanks for the help guys
[01:57] <Nabiki> They both look very similar.  :P  They seem to act like a GUI patched over bitchx or something.    The userlist for the channel is in a separate button off to the side and such. O.o;;
[01:58] <Nabiki> (not a separate window, a button, that shows them for a moment when I click it)
[01:58] <adop> I have a probjem with ubuntu edgy. Sometimes the disk usage led stays on and i dont have write access to the disk. After this i cannot use the computer properly, not even start a terminal to check any logs. Finally it locks and requires a poweroff. if i press restart the disk usage led stays on and the system does not detect the drive (i have 1 sata drive). Any help?
[01:58] <ikonia_> Nabiki if you don't like it, don't use it
[01:58] <ravi> mEcK0, I believe it sets the bitrate depending on what the stream is carrying. For example, if the stream is 256 kbps, your mp3 file will be 256 kbps, and so on...
[01:58] <Nabiki> Is there a way to get the older version under Edgy?
[01:58] <braindead_moron> ikonia, I am getting strange messages in /var/log/messages also: Mar 19 08:56:52 mewtwo kernel: [18461079.988000]  cdrom: open failed.
[01:58] <braindead_moron> I wonder if I tried a different disk...
[01:59] <mEck0> ravi, ah, okey, yeah it sounds realistic, thx!
[02:00] <braindead_moron> ikonia, Nah, same thing with a different DVD
[02:00] <MadHatte1> has anyone setup their wifi using wpa on a access point that isn't broadcasting?
[02:00] <MadHatte1> I can get everything to work when i turn on broadcast, but I really don't like to have it on
[02:01] <ravi> MadHattel, absolutely, what are you using for network management?
[02:01] <Zewey> genii: that's awesome. thanks :P
[02:01] <MadHatte1> network-manager
[02:01] <genii> Zewey :)
[02:02] <prav33n> I have upgraded from edgy to feisty yesterday
[02:02] <prav33n> Since then I am not able to boot to the new kernel
[02:02] <Pici> prav33n: feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[02:02] <Slart> prav33n: perhaps you'll get better answers in #ubuntu+1
[02:02] <Slart> bah
[02:03] <prav33n> Slart, Pici : Thanks
[02:03] <Frogzoo_> prav33n: -> #ubuntu+1
[02:03] <ravi> MadHattel, try wicd - it handles non-broadcast ssid's much better than Network-Manager
[02:04] <ravi> MadHattel: url http://compwiz18.blackhole.cx/wicd/wb/
[02:04] <ravi> MadHattel: you got that right? there is explicitly an option in there to connect to a hidden network, will work like a charm for your situation. Good Luck.
[02:05] <MadHatte1> thanks, I'll give that a shot
[02:05] <ravi> !wicd > MadHattel
[02:06] <ravi> !wicd > ravi
[02:06] <ravi> blah, this is boring... slow morning!
[02:06] <MadHatte1> thanks mate!
[02:06] <m1r> !wicd
[02:06] <ravi> sure.
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <Audio_1> well i had to reinstall windows
[02:06] <ravi> Network-Manager sucks compared to wicd
[02:07] <ravi> Audio_1, what a surprise!
[02:07] <Hadron> I have wpasupplicant installed and network-manager-gnome. I have set the router to wpa. But the password dialog from my laptop running Edgy has no WPA option there. Any suggestions?
[02:07] <ravi> ubotu really ought to learn about wicd!
[02:07] <Audio_1> shoot
[02:07] <Audio_1> brb
[02:07] <ravi> forget network-manager, use wicd and leave your troubles behind Hadron
[02:08] <ravi> deb download page: http://compwiz18.blackhole.cx/wicd/wb/pages/releases.php
[02:10] <ravi> for those of you who are installing wicd, don't forget to add a startup program in your sessions (under system>preferences) that says "/opt/wicd/tray-edgy.py"
[02:10] <Hadron> network-manager is the future with 7.04
[02:11] <ravi> Hadron: too bad it sucks right now with hidden networks
[02:11] <m1r> i have partitioned my windows HDD to 10gb, what are recomended spec to setup that partition for ubuntu ? 512ram 1900mhz
[02:11] <MythrilSword> why the fu** did i ever get into networking business.. should go to agriculture industry from start , less stress :)
[02:11] <IdleOne> ravi, if it is so good why not submit it for inclusion into the repositories
[02:11] <MythrilSword> my ISP pointed my PTR records to some unknown machine and dint notify me :)=
[02:12] <AngryElf_> is there a graphical kill window i.e. crtl alt del?
[02:12] <Hadron> but why would my pwd dialog not have the wpa option?
[02:12] <prav33n> If one messes up with all the installed kernels in the system and they fail to boot, what is the best way to install new kernel?
[02:12] <ravi> IdleOne: no idea where to start that process
[02:12] <Hadron> how can I tell if my card in the laptop supports wpa?
[02:12] <Ng> AngryElf_: System->Administration->System Monitor
[02:12] <IdleOne> ravi,  #ubuntu-dev would be a good place to ask
[02:12] <ravi> IdleOne, going there now, thanks for the info
[02:12] <AngryElf_> Ng: what does end process execute kill, kill -9 ?
[02:15] <pir21390> hi
[02:15] <pir21390> how can i make a cusom login screen?
[02:15] <pir21390> :D
[02:16] <Ng> AngryElf_: End Process is kill, Kill process is kill -9, afaik
[02:16] <Ng> pir21390: make a gdm theme (search google for tutorials)
[02:16] <pir21390> Ng: ok, tnx
[02:20] <felixhummel> I need German umlauts, but use a US-English keyboard. I need a global shortcut (maybe ctrl+alt+o) to insert the umlaut equivalent. Any ideas?
[02:20] <bismark> hello, can tell me here how to compile Mangos server on ubuntu linux?
[02:20] <bismark> someone
[02:21] <felixhummel> I know how to bind shortcuts (xbindkeys), so all I need is a program that inserts something after the cursor (application independence is very important).
[02:24] <predaeus> felixhummel, look at man xmodmap.
[02:24] <SeanTaterLaptop> What is the advantage of using WEP over unencrypted? (Is it actually secure or is it so easily broken it's useless?)
[02:25] <Hadron`> can someone walk me through how to determine what my network card is in my laptop and what driver is being used, and what security features it has?
[02:25] <Hadron`> 
[02:25] <felixhummel> predaeus, should have thought of that! :) What is it's console equivalent (just in case)?
[02:25] <SeanTaterLaptop> Hadron`: probably, I just got mine working
[02:25] <felixhummel> predaeus, thanks!
[02:26] <Ng> SeanTaterLaptop: WEP is pretty easily broken, but will still stop casual people connecting
[02:26] <Ng> SeanTaterLaptop: WPA is more secure
[02:26] <Hadron`> SeanTaterLaptop: k. fire away (ps mine works, I just dont really know what features/driver are being used)
[02:26] <Ng> but requires newer hardware
[02:26] <Hadron`> SeanTaterLaptop: I know all about how security works in general. Its the ubuntu framework I want to understand.
[02:26] <SeanTaterLaptop> Ng: My router is quite old.. I think WEP is the only option
[02:27] <Ng> SeanTaterLaptop: it's better than nothing :)
[02:27] <SeanTaterLaptop> Ng: okay
[02:27] <ravi> did anyone in here install wicd yet, someone was complaining about not being able to connect to a hidden network
[02:27] <chris28000> hello
[02:27] <ravi> hello
[02:27] <SeanTaterLaptop> Hadron`: Do you know lspci?
[02:27] <SeanTaterLaptop> Hadron`: "lspci" in a terminal. It lists your hardware
[02:28] <SeanTaterLaptop> Hadron`: Generally, the network card is a few from the bottom.. It probably has a familiar name like linksys or netgear
[02:28] <rambo3> Hadron,  sudo lshw -C network
[02:29] <rambo3> lspci works too
[02:29] <MadHatte1> ravi - followup on wicd
[02:29] <ravi> MadHattel: go ahead
[02:29] <SeanTaterLaptop> Hadron`: to know the security there are numerous ways. Try NetworkManager. or wifi-radar, or wlassistant, or kwifimanager..
[02:29] <MadHatte1> i am trying to install it and am getting an error about it conflicting with network-manager.  But I removed network manager
[02:30] <ravi> paste the error in pastebin
[02:30] <MadHatte1> pastebin?
[02:30] <ravi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:30] <SeanTaterLaptop> Hadron`: I prefer kwifimanager because I use kde.
[02:30] <ravi> give me the link it gives you to access your paste once you are done
[02:31] <Hadron`> SeanTaterLaptop: I dont want to know the security. I want to know the card and the driver.
[02:31] <Hadron`> lspci got it
[02:32] <MadHatte1> ravi - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11027/
[02:32] <SeanTaterLaptop> !wep > SeanTaterLaptop
[02:33] <zues_62> hey guys
[02:33] <ravi> MadHattel: did you do a sudo apt-get remove network-manager ?
[02:33] <zues_62> hows everyone
[02:34] <ravi> well
[02:34] <MadHatte1> i used the gui tools
[02:34] <MadHatte1> i can use apt-get if that helps
[02:34] <eon> can i install a live CD image of Ubuntu with Wubi ? need help.
[02:34] <Shitbird> absolutely wonderful, how about yourself?
[02:34] <zues_62> good good
[02:34] <zues_62> great infact
[02:34] <ravi> just open up a terminal and paste "sudo apt-get remove network-manger" and say yes to any questions
[02:34] <zues_62> i just got Berrl to work its nice as
[02:34] <Dimensions> hiya ... how can i setup a File Server in ubuntu ?
[02:35] <Slart> !samba | Dimensions
[02:35] <ubotu> Dimensions: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:35] <ravi> BAH. I envy you zues (no pun intended with envy)
[02:35] <zues_62> as in ftp Dim
[02:35] <eon> can i install a live CD image of Ubuntu with Wubi ?
[02:35] <MadHatte1> ravi, that was it
[02:35] <zues_62> no i dont think u can eon
[02:35] <MadHatte1> thanks
[02:35] <Slart> Dimensions: or you could use nfs.. or ftp
[02:35] <ravi> MadHattel, sure, did wicd work with your hidden ssid?
[02:35] <eon> do i need an ubuntu alternative ?
[02:35] <Shitbird> yeah, been putting beryl off since yesterday.. that's next for me but first I gotta get nvidia straightened out
[02:35] <zues_62> Eon what u trying to do
[02:36] <Dimensions> thanks guys ...
[02:36] <MadHatte1> still working on setting that part up
[02:36] <zues_62> minta dimensions
[02:36] <Slart> Dimensions: you're welcome
[02:36] <eon> zues_62: i would like to install ubuntu with wubi
[02:36] <Slart> eon: what is wubi?
[02:36] <ravi> sure you can set up a file server in ubuntu, you can have samba, ftp, nfs, whatever you'd like.
[02:36] <zues_62> ya good point what is it
[02:36] <Menasim1> where can I find files of apache?
[02:36] <Yorick> quit
[02:37] <eon> zues_62: http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[02:37] <foutrelis> Menasim1: Are you planning to set up apache?
[02:37] <Slart> Menasim1: different places.. you can always use "locate filename" to find files.. do a "sudo updatedb" first
[02:37] <Dimensions> Slart ... if i install a normal Ubuntu Desktop version that would do the task aswell or its better to have a server installation ? i have MS and *nux client systems ... around here
[02:37] <foutrelis> Menasim1: oh. I read your question wrong. :)
[02:38] <zues_62> eeon
[02:38] <bahr> omg beryl is so cool :P
[02:38] <Menasim1> :)
[02:38] <bahr> I love ubuntu :D
[02:38] <zues_62> im talkintin to u in the whisper chat
[02:38] <eon> zues_62: yes
[02:38] <zues_62> i cld help u
[02:38] <ravi> Menasim1: you could just use the find command from the root directory (read "man find") or you could use locate, just make sure you do "sudo updatedb" befor you try to locate files.
[02:38] <Slart> Dimensions: I'm not quite sure what the difference is between the server and normal versions.. but you can do it with both
[02:38] <Dimensions> okay Slart thanks again
[02:38] <eon> zues_62: thanks. :)
[02:39] <ravi> Dimensions: difference between server and desktop versions is that server comes with a stripped down configuration that is void of all things like the desktop, etc.
[02:39] <zues_62> cheers chat in there its eaasier this scrolls to fast lol
[02:39] <ravi> Dimensions: and by all things like the desktop I mean gnome, gdm, etc.
[02:39] <eon> can i install a live CD image of Ubuntu with Wubi ?
[02:39] <zues_62> y do u wanto do that EON
[02:40] <Menasim1> can it find a folder?
[02:40] <eon> zues_62: i like to install ubuntu without disturbing Winodws
[02:40] <Dimensions> ravi:  so basically the difference is between same like of a Desktop version and Server version ... there is no difference specifically for SAMBA in either
[02:40] <MadHatte1> ravi - it worked, thanks
[02:40] <zues_62> u dont need to
[02:40] <MadHatte1> that is a much better app than network-manager
[02:40] <zues_62> just insert the cd and away u go
[02:40] <eon> zues_62: i dont need a live CD
[02:40] <ravi> MadHattel: see guys, wicd is awesome compared to network-manager, however the people over on ubuntu-devel wouldn't respond appropriately
[02:40] <zues_62> oh y that
[02:41] <eon> zues_62: i need to study ubuntu :)
[02:41] <zues_62> wat do u need to know
[02:41] <ravi> MadHattel: did you by the way set it up so that it starts in your tray everytime you login?
[02:41] <zues_62> do u wana go in private chat its easer
[02:42] <eon> zues_62: sure
[02:42] <zues_62> ok do u want me to start the chat
[02:42] <eon> zues_62: ok
[02:43] <zues_62> i started the chat for u
[02:43] <ravi> MadHattel: you have to add "/opt/wicd/tray-edgy.py" to your session startup programs, if you don't know how to do that, consult the http://compwiz18.blackhole.cx/wicd/wb/pages/f.a.q..php#question_2
[02:43] <eon> zues_62: wait a sec i need to register
[02:43] <zues_62> register?
[02:43] <ravi> I'm an irc newb, anyone willing to help me out on how to register to be able to have pm's?
[02:43] <eon> zues_62: yes for private chat @ freenod
[02:44] <ikonia_> ravi join #tapthru and ask for a lesson
[02:44] <zues_62> do i hav to do that?
[02:44] <zues_62> or i cld add u to msn whats ur im?
[02:44] <eon> zues_62: you have to
[02:44] <eon> zues_62: do you have GMail
[02:44] <zues_62> no
[02:45] <eon> zues_62: i use GMail Bcoz it is ad free
[02:45] <zues_62> oh ok do u hav a msn addy or yahoo
[02:45] <eon> zues_62: yahoo ok.
[02:45] <burner> adblock plus makes hotmail & yahoo ad-free :)
[02:46] <eon> zues_62:  ben.aeon is my nic in yahoo
[02:46] <zues_62> ok do u want me to add u to msn?
[02:46] <eon> i dont like MSN
[02:47] <zues_62> is it at yahoo.com?
[02:47] <VXWorks> how do I make a VPN between two PCs ?
[02:47] <eon> zues_62: yes
[02:47] <zues_62> k addin now
[02:48] <IdleOne> always amazed me how people use irc to see if they can find people to use msn or yahoo with...use irc!!!!
[02:48] <zues_62> lol woot
[02:48] <rambo3> what
[02:48] <zues_62> cant add u lol
[02:48] <eon> zues_62: y
[02:49] <zues_62> duno some strange error
[02:49] <zues_62> lol
[02:49] <rambo3> !ot
[02:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:49] <zues_62> um y u scared to instal ubuntu normaly y do u need to do it in webi
[02:50] <eon> zues_62: i dont like disturbing my win settings :)
[02:50] <zues_62> u wont tho i didnt
[02:50] <zues_62> i just put the live cd in and clicked install
[02:50] <zues_62> it did nothing to windows
[02:50] <burner> only disturbance is the new boot loader :)
[02:50] <burner> you get a prompt when you boot whether you want windows or linux
[02:50] <zues_62> not that i would worrie coz i dont use windows much
[02:51] <IdleOne> and even if it did not a big loss ( backup your important stuff )
[02:51] <eon> zues_62: i hav many file in winodws hdd .. no space left for ubuntu :(
[02:51] <zues_62> correct
[02:51] <zues_62> thats ashame u cant install ubuntu then
[02:51] <eon> zues_62: can you signup for Gmail/Gtalk ?
[02:51] <zues_62> no
[02:51] <eon> zues_62: ok fine
[02:51] <IdleOne> eon, then make backups and clear some space on the HD
[02:51] <burner> VXWorks, you can use openvpn
[02:52] <ravi_master> wohoo, I'm back.
[02:52] <zues_62> sorri im actualy half asleep its 1am here lol
[02:52] <ravi_master> and now registered!
[02:52] <eon> zues_62:  it is very risk.. many of them are big and unable to backup it :(
[02:52] <zues_62> thats what i would do Idleone
[02:52] <eon> zues_62:  ok take rest :)
[02:52] <zues_62> well i have 10gb for windows and the rest is linux lol as i dont use windows
[02:53] <zues_62> oh god its 2am now blah shows how long i havent looked at the old watch for lol
[02:53] <eon> zues_62: i have used whole 120 GB for WIn :)
[02:53] <zues_62> my god lol
[02:54] <zues_62> oh well eon i wish u the best of luck
[02:54] <VXWorks> burner: what else can I use?
[02:54] <Menasim1> how can I download from svn server?
[02:54] <eon> zues_62: thanks see you later
[02:54] <zues_62> my myspace page is myspace.com/the_zues_zone
[02:54] <Menasim1> "svn checkout http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3" is notr working
[02:54] <eon> zues_62: thanks
[02:54] <zues_62> if u wana get in contact go there ok
[02:54] <Menasim1> *notr = "not" :)
[02:54] <eon> zues_62: sure
[02:54] <zues_62> mintas
[02:55] <ravi_master> guys, what's the best irc client ever?
[02:55] <Menasim1> chatzilla
[02:55] <Guerrand> xchat!
[02:55] <zues_62> anywyas all im off take care all
[02:55] <IdleOne> !best | ravi_master
[02:55] <ubotu> ravi_master: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:55] <ravi_master> holy crud, I know there is no single best application.
[02:55] <burner> VXWorks, as a server or client?
[02:56] <Guerrand> IdleOne: LIES!!! ... the best is whatever I use :P
[02:56] <ravi_master> :)
[02:56] <burner> VXWorks, is it just for file transfer?  you can use ssh/sftp or ftp
[02:56] <burner> VXWorks, if you're strictly after vpn, i think OpenVPN is the best bet
[02:56] <ravi_master> VXWorks, you know, I wish you were more open.
[02:56] <blabj> Any reason why the partitioner would stop loading at 7%?
[02:56] <SpaceBass> OpenVPN is great, but not the easiest thing in the world to get setup
[02:57] <SpaceBass> blabj, disk problems?
[02:57] <earthen> does gnome support viewports?
[02:57] <blabj> Should I test with memtest?
[02:57] <ravi_master> VXWorks, if you look around there are vpn suites out there (on sourceforge) that have setup OpenVPN and have a suite of helper applications that are built around it to administer and setup the environment.
[02:58] <ravi_master> VXWorks, no specific one comes to mind right now but I am sure if you google for them, you will find them.
[02:58] <VXWorks>  burner: I wanna make a VPN between two PCs on wi-fi environment
[02:58] <XyZw> hi all
[02:59] <SpaceBass> VXWorks, easy enough...both linux?
[02:59] <VXWorks> ravi_master: thanks
[02:59] <ravi_master> VXWorks, use Hamachi if it's just for two clients
[02:59] <ravi_master> HAMACHI rules
[02:59] <XyZw> someone can tell me why gksudo on ubuntu work different than in deban?
[02:59] <SpaceBass> hamachi is closed source and uses a 3rd party server...and that scares me
[02:59] <DeL3e7> yeah
[02:59] <ikonia_> XyZw because they are two different distros, configured differently
[03:00] <DeL3e7>  use openvpn
[03:00] <ravi_master> hamachi is easy for first-time users, and thousands depend on it everyday.
[03:00] <VXWorks> SpaceBass: maybe not... could be windows X linux or linux X linux
[03:00] <SpaceBass> VXWorks, openVPN is by far the most robust and can be VERY secure...and I've never used a gui frontend so that could make it easier...
[03:00] <SpaceBass> but it can be a little tricky
[03:00] <SpaceBass> take that back, I've used the windows GUI client
[03:01] <ravi_master> cool thread showing ubuntu+hamachi+vpn http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135036
[03:01] <XyZw> ikonia_:  i've noticed that the option are same in both distros
[03:01] <progek> If I use an encoder to turn a video file into a .swf or .flv is it enough to embed this into a web page?
[03:01] <thiesen> Have anyone got a Radeon X1650Pro and got it to work with the latest fglrx drivers?
[03:01] <ravi_master> OpenVPN can be a bit of an overkill for VXWorks's situation
[03:01] <ikonia_> XyZw thats because the package is the same package
[03:01] <ravi_master> it's just two boxes involved
[03:02] <VXWorks> my question is: with openVPN both windows and linux can communicate each other?
[03:02] <cwillu> VXWorks, yep
[03:02] <XyZw> ikonia_: yes, also the configuration file are the same....and they work different...very strange
[03:02] <PirateHead> I added a new spec to /usr/share/gtksourceview-1.0/language-specs and now I want to use that spec to highlight my syntax in GEdit. How do I get GEdit to recognize the new spec?
[03:02] <ikonia_> XyZw not strange, ubuntu and debian are different distros put togheter different
[03:02] <DeL3e7> how bout grouping lans together over the net
[03:02] <cwillu> VXWorks, I usually use a linux server openvpn with a bunch of win32 clients connecting
[03:03] <VXWorks> great, cause right now I just have 2 PCs but It is gonna be 12 PCs by the end of the week!
[03:03] <XyZw> ikonia_: if there aren't patch to the package they have to work in the same way
[03:04] <ikonia_> XyZw they do work the same way, its what they are intergrated and how they are intergrated that makes them appear different
[03:04] <ravi_master> more than 2,000,000 Hamachi peers right now. Just use hamachi
[03:04] <thiesen> have anyone with a Radeon X1650Pro got it to work with the latest fglrx drivers? I only get mesa with them... I have tried to follow every guide I could find to no avail...
[03:05] <XyZw> ikonia_: ok, and do you know if there's a method to set gksu on ubuntu like in debian?
[03:05] <TheInfinity> does anybody know why a keyboard does not work in grub, in bios it works, with ubuntu it also works - and when i plug in another usb keyboard it works in grub?
[03:05] <TheInfinity> so why does this special USB keyboard not work in grub / DOS CD ?
[03:06] <patrick91> ciao
[03:06] <SpaceBass> VXWorks, maybe I missed it... are these all remote machines?
[03:06] <SpaceBass> or is this b/t like 2 sites...
[03:06] <[H4z3] > Hey guys i need help with apache.. if this isnt the right place could someone guide me there please
[03:07] <void^> TheInfinity: enable usb legacy device emulation in your bios.
[03:07] <PirateHead> [H4z3] : try #apache
[03:07] <TheInfinity> is enabled
[03:07] <TheInfinity> and it works with my own keyboard
[03:07] <[H4z3] > Oh, thanks
[03:07] <void^> TheInfinity: blame the keyboard/bios then
[03:07] <TheInfinity> but with this other (and logitech OEM) keyboard it does not work
[03:07] <TheInfinity> *a - not and
[03:08] <thiesen> have anyone with a Radeon X1650Pro got it to work with the latest fglrx drivers? I only get mesa with them... I have tried to follow every guide I could find to no avail...
[03:08] <tuskernini> QUESTION what is the best way to save PDF to HTML?
[03:08] <TheInfinity> void^: then i have the next problem - the bios upgrade requies windows or a 1,4MB disc ;)
[03:08] <rausb0> df971ffd-2790-41d0-8d54-9c9ea9cc424b
[03:08] <void^> TheInfinity: you can usually get away with burning those disk images as bootcds
[03:09] <TheInfinity> void^: i tried this ;)
[03:09] <PirateHead> I added a new spec to /usr/share/gtksourceview-1.0/language-specs and now I want to use that spec to highlight my syntax in GEdit. How do I get GEdit to recognize the new spec?
[03:11] <TheInfinity> its a new bios type, i had it in 2 pcs - it forces the computer to load data from a:
[03:11] <TheInfinity> which is not the cd drive
[03:11] <void^> well, a bootcd's floppy emulation will show up as a: in dos
[03:12] <TheInfinity> the funny thing is: on an older computer (pentium 1 ghz) the keyboard works ... just on an 1/2 year old MSI board and a 2 month old asrock board iit does not work ...
[03:12] <void^> but if it uses direct hardware access that probably won't help
[03:12] <TheInfinity> i use a win ME cd for dos ... it emulates some data in a:/
[03:12] <MrFeetio> how do I change the owner of a folder?
[03:12] <TheInfinity> but not the files for the bios
[03:13] <TheInfinity> MrBrizzio: chown
[03:13] <wantbeer> hi all
[03:13] <void^> well, you can create a bootcd using any downloaded bootable floppy image with your bios update in it
[03:13] <shadeofgrey> hey everyboidy
[03:14] <TheInfinity> void^: where to get it?
[03:14] <genii> bootdisk.com
[03:14] <shadeofgrey> im interested in finding out -- is there a version of ubuntu that has beryl integrated rather than kde or gnome?
[03:14] <wantbeer> anyone here managed to get a working preseed automatic install with 7.04?
[03:14] <genii> TheInfinity http://bootdisk.com
[03:15] <thiesen> have anyone with a Radeon X1650Pro got it to work with the latest fglrx drivers? I only get mesa with them... I have tried to follow every guide I could find to no avail...
[03:15] <wantbeer> i'm struggling with that...got stuck at some point,
[03:15] <shadeofgrey> furthermore has installTION of ubuntu gotten any easier on intel macs:?
[03:15] <genii> thiesen Is this an AIW version?
[03:15] <Nighteye> sup?
[03:16] <cyberfr0g> hi
[03:16] <Thiesen> genii: No... it's an Asus AX1650Pro card...
[03:16] <wantbeer> is kickstart an alternative to preseed methods?
[03:16] <genii> wantbeer It's a Redhat method they adapted
[03:17] <SheaTara> Is it possible for one wireless adapter to connect to another without an access point? (ad-hoc type network?)
[03:17] <wantbeer> genii: ok, but there's a kickstart GUI from the official ubuntu repo
[03:17] <rajinder> is there a channel for multimedia questions?
[03:17] <rajinder> or should it be asked here?
[03:17] <wantbeer> genii: it lets you prepare a kickstart.cfg file
[03:18] <genii> Heres good
[03:18] <Rimrock> Hi, in kde, I can press the Esc & Control buttons at the same time and a window will pop up from system guard to show me what's running in the background.  How do I find out what's running in the background when I run Gnome?
[03:18] <asad2006> how do i restart sendmail
[03:19] <cyberfr0g> investigating
[03:19] <genii> wantbeer Yes. I'm just saying the preseed file created with debconf-get-selections/debconf-set-selections methiod is the native Debian method and that the Kickstart method is an adaptation from RH
[03:19] <Ivannov> Hello everyone Ineed some help
[03:19] <predaeus> Rimrock, System/Administration/SystemMonitor/Processes
[03:19] <genii> Thiesen I can't find anything specifically relating to that card
[03:20] <Rimrock> Thanks, I do appreciate it.
[03:20] <wantbeer> genii: thanks for your attention, so have you ever tried automating an installation *completely* using debian preseed?
[03:20] <Rimrock> I am trying to switch over to gnome.  Looks good so far.
[03:20] <Ivannov> How to change Seamonkey and Firefox Menu font
[03:21] <genii> wantbeer Yes. I have an automated install cluster here
[03:21] <Thiesen> genii: I know... it's like Ati have no drivers for it... btw I use the fglrx from the Unutu repo's for Feisty...
[03:21] <Thiesen> ubuntu*
[03:21] <mweichert> does anyone have experience with preseeding the ubuntu/debian installer? I'm not sure what to do about configuring X
[03:21] <will> Anyone know of an RPG I can apt-get?
[03:22] <rajinder> is there some application which i can use to convert video files to video cds?
[03:22] <will> rajinder, A DVD?
[03:22] <wantbeer> genii: it seems that the installation stops at the partitioning stage...it still asks to the user rather than going over with instruciotns in the .recipe file within preseed files, i'm using 7.04...tried with daily snapshots to herd 5...no way.
[03:22] <rajinder> will: to a VCD
[03:23] <will> rajinder, Sorry, not familiar with it.
[03:23] <genii> wantbeer Yeah theres a switch for allowing the partitioner to auto-continue somewhere.
[03:23] <Shitbird> w/o audio sync issues? I would like to know the answer to that one as well
[03:23] <predaeus> rajinder, I used a combination of mencoder and k3b. google for mencoder and vcd for the commands.
[03:23] <rajinder> predaeus: is there no simpler method? i am installing ubuntu for my parents to use, and that would be one more clincher
[03:24] <genii> wantbeer I'll look it up, 1 minute
[03:24] <rajinder> predaeus: doing it this way makes windoze look more desirable :(
[03:24] <will> rajinder, http://dvdripping-guid.berlios.de/DVDs-to-VCD_y_AVI-to-VCD_con_mencvcd_en.html
[03:24] <predaeus> rajinder, I know it's a pain, sorry haven't found something easier yet. I think vlc can convert too but I did not have success with it.
[03:24] <Hylg> Hi
[03:24] <Terminus> rajinder: ubuntu studio might have the functions you're looking for but it's not yet out. not even an alpha copy.
[03:25] <MadHatte1> ravi - you still around?
[03:25] <predaeus> rajinder, there is some shell script around that does ask questions about the conversion I think, maybe in the forums.
[03:25] <wantbeer> genii: thk u so much..you know...support and documentation for presseding seems so outdated and incomplete..i dunno why, so we had to build up something out from the debian docs and other infos gathered here and there ;)
[03:25] <Araelius> i am not sure if you guys can help me, but is it possible for 2 hard drives to just die at the same time? I've had one for 4 years and one for 1 year and now I cannot boot into either of them
[03:25] <genii> wantbeer Yeah, me too
[03:25] <rajinder> predaeus: probably i too can write one. what i really wanted though was a nice GUI frontend which would really help it for a newbie to use
[03:25] <Hylg> I nee some help here please :) I can not see unicode caractere in my tty like "". Can someone help me please ?
[03:26] <Terminus> Araelius: maybe a power surge fried them both at the same time?
[03:26] <SeasidePeter> more likely cable connection on the MB?
[03:26] <Shitbird> how terrible
[03:27] <Araelius> i don't see how, I left the computer on for a bit and went out for maybe an hour and then came back home and it had an error that "primary drive 0 and 1 can't be found:
[03:27] <Araelius> sorry, horrible typing, please excuse me
[03:28] <genii> wantbeer There is a simple example here http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/admin/ubuntu/desktop.seed
[03:28] <carcosa> araelius more like your drive controller went out
[03:28] <Terminus> Araelius: cables are loose? you could also check if your PSU can handle the load. bios should have a voltage monitor. there're probably lots of ways that could happen.
[03:28] <carcosa> both your drives didn't fail at once
[03:28] <predaeus> rajinder: vlc provides some GUI in the File/wizard... but there is no option for vcd. I do not know if the vcd is contained in one of the available codecs.
[03:28] <mantz> join #/j113
[03:28] <carcosa> it's drive controller
[03:28] <wantbeer> genii: i'll go check it out, thnks
[03:28] <carcosa> araelius these are scsi drives yes
[03:28] <Araelius> yes
[03:28] <genii> wantbeer :)
[03:28] <carcosa> its the drive controller.
[03:28] <SeasidePeter> areaelius - if you boot into BIOS can you re-detect the drives?
[03:29] <carcosa> seaside no because his drive controller is smoked.
[03:29] <Araelius> haven't tried that yet Peter
[03:29] <Shitbird> SCSI..  no fun at all
[03:29] <Araelius> :(
[03:29] <Shitbird> Still Cant See It
[03:29] <SeasidePeter> carcosa - probly right, but BIOS worth a try...
[03:29] <carcosa> mmm hmmm :>
[03:29] <Araelius> is it something that can be easily fixed?
[03:30] <carcosa> araelius fixed?  Not unless you are mr. component-level repair with a full shop
[03:30] <mweichert> genii: do you know when preseeding, if you have to specify any X configuration?
[03:30] <carcosa> rebought?  yes $10 plz
[03:30] <chaotika> hello
[03:30] <Araelius> well, by fix i mean buy another one :)
[03:30] <wantbeer> genii: i'll try to get rid of the external .recipe file for partitioning scheme information. I see that in the example..merging the recipe infos in the preseed file seems a way to try
[03:31] <genii> wantbeer Yeah I had to do much experimenting
[03:31] <quaal> why is it that i have things in /usr/share/menu that done show up on my menu
[03:31] <genii> mweichert: Yes.
[03:31] <quaal> dont
[03:32] <labcom> bu
[03:32] <carcosa> araelius get another scsi controller.
[03:32] <carcosa> try the drives in another machine to make sure
[03:32] <Araelius> ok, i will look into it carcosa, thank you for your help
[03:33] <carcosa> you're welcome
[03:34] <chaotika> i tried to setup encrypted rootfilesystem under feisty with luks. i created a partiton sda5 and formated it with luks. then i created a filesystem and copied the files on it. i chrooted in it, changed fstab, so it boots from /dev/mapper/root. then i did update-initramfs. when i boot now with root=/dev/mapper/root it says, that sda5 hasn't been found.
[03:35] <edgy_jack> can anyone help me on how to reconfigure base-config in edgy-eft?
[03:35] <chaotika> any ides?
[03:36] <edgy_jack> can anyone help me on how to reconfigure base-config in edgy-eft? or what is the command ?
[03:36] <edgy_jack> !base-config
[03:36] <ubotu> base-config: Debian base system configurator (transitional version). In component universe, is extra. Version 2.76 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 96 kB
[03:36] <Araelius> actually I am wrong, it is an IDE, would that make a difference?
[03:36] <mweichert> genii: I don't understand this: X can detect the right driver for some cards, but if you're preseeding, you override whatever it chooses.
[03:37] <mweichert> genii: does that mean I have to specify a driver or no?
[03:37] <Nemes> Giving a string, how could I generate through a terminal the encrypted password that would be at the "shadow" file? I guess it should be something like "echo password | md5", but it doesn't work
[03:37] <genii> mweichert: Yes. I had to specify i810 for instance on my preseed
[03:37] <wantbeer> mweichert: i let the installer probe everything...then when inst. is finished you can tuen up your graphic system
[03:37] <mweichert> Nemes: echo "password" | mkpasswd -s -H MD5
[03:38] <Pistahh> hello
[03:38] <Nemes> mweichert: thanks
[03:38] <Pistahh> how can I extract the boot image from an edgy install cd?
[03:38] <SheaTara> How do I set up an ad-hoc wireless network using linux?
[03:38] <mweichert> wantbeer: so didn't specify anything related to X in your preconfiguration file?
[03:39] <mweichert> Pistahh: google ubuntu reconstructor, that's probably the easiest
[03:39] <Pistahh> mweichert: thx, that seems to help :)
[03:40] <znejk> anyone installed ubuntu on sata disks?
[03:40] <SpaceBass> znejk, yeah, all the time
[03:40] <znejk> yeah?
[03:40] <mweichert> Pistahh: or you can try mounting the "filesystem.squashfs" file in the casper folder of your installation cd/image
[03:40] <znejk> didnt manage to get it to work so i switch to feodora ... not satisfied ...
[03:41] <znejk> SpaceBass: have any tips and trix?
[03:41] <SpaceBass> znejk, actually, I never even thought about it...the install CDs just did their thing
[03:42] <SpaceBass> znejk, have you tried the alternate CD ?
[03:42] <znejk> SpaceBass: they did? damn they gave me hell
[03:43] <wantbeer> mweichert: yes...i autodetect boolean true everything: monitor, videocard and mouse... i explicitely set the resolution and the freq. of the screen on a wide compatibility values like 1024x768@60Hz
[03:43] <znejk> SpaceBass: hmm guess i tried both ... gparted didnt want to partition my hds
[03:43] <SpaceBass> znejk, how big?
[03:44] <SpaceBass> znejk, you have FC6 running now?
[03:44] <hateyla> i m Using Kubuntu. In system setting there is option name login Manager.. i found there anorther bootup option not grub its lilo... What u people prefare to use GRUB or LiLO ? c0z i get problem grub 2 times .. is LILO is good one?
[03:44] <znejk> not on this box ... am on a train on my way home to the feodora box :>
[03:44] <znejk> god bless sweden and the internet architecture
[03:45] <znejk> :>
[03:45] <SpaceBass> znejk, if you can install FC6 on the box in question, just setup your partitions there then install ubuntu onto those partitions
[03:45] <SpaceBass> I have fiber to my house here at 30mbs/10mbs but thats very very rare in the states
[03:45] <znejk> yes it just hit me too ... damn must have been smoked out :>
[03:45] <znejk> hehe
[03:45] <SpaceBass> :)
[03:45] <znejk> im on a highspeed train though internet costs like 10$ for 3 h
[03:45] <mweichert> wantbeer: cool, what's the name of the question for autodetect driver?
[03:45] <Shitbird> 10down here
[03:46] <Shitbird> I'm jealous
[03:46] <SpaceBass> internet on the train? wow
[03:46] <znejk> hehe
[03:46] <znejk> yeah
[03:46] <SpaceBass> znejk, what kind of speeds?
[03:46] <znejk> hehe dunno not fast i suppose
[03:46] <felixhummel> How do I make F12 print "hello World"? I dumped the keymap with 'dumpkeys --keys-only > /etc/keydump', added 'string F12 = "hello world"' and loaded it with 'loadkeys /etc/keydump'. What am I doing wrong?
[03:46] <aalhamad> i have an hp 1500 laserjet and i need i can't get it work with my pervoius driver it says its out of data..
[03:46] <znejk> i can guess like 1/1
[03:46] <aalhamad> how can i make it work plz?
[03:46] <wantbeer> mweichert: xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/autodetect_monitor boolean true
[03:47] <znejk> SpaceBass: i had another problem 2 ...
[03:47] <wantbeer> xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/autodetect_video_card boolean true
[03:47] <znejk> mby you can help
[03:47] <aalhamad> here is my reff: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-Color_LaserJet_1500
[03:47] <wantbeer> xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/autodetect_mouse boolean true
[03:47] <SpaceBass> i can get about 1.25 down / 256k up using my cell phone as a modem...but service doesnt work too well while moving
[03:47] <SpaceBass> znejk, shoot
[03:47] <znejk> SpaceBass: about nvidia gfx stuff ... the installer wont start ... just gives me like 1000 strange red lines
[03:47] <znejk> and stuff
[03:48] <znejk> is there a way to preinstall nvidia drivers or load them with the installer prog?
[03:48] <Uber_newbie> how do i detect my video card from the command line, i'm making a howto and need the specs and etc.
[03:48] <Shitbird> pretty impressive.. I have been wondering what a cell phone can do
[03:48] <mweichert> wantbeer: thanks a lot!
[03:48] <aalhamad> the driver name thats is out of date is: http://foo2oak.rkkda.com/
[03:48] <Shitbird> how fast are the 3g cards?
[03:48] <hateyla> what boot loader to you people suggest with More then 2 OS installed in system? its GRUB or LILO?
[03:48] <psyhiczny_borsuk> www.ks-
[03:48] <thoreauputic> Uber_newbie: lspci | grep VGA
[03:48] <wantbeer> mweichert: no prob ;)
[03:48] <SpaceBass> znejk, hummm...not my area of expertese there
[03:48] <lukasz>   whats program open is *.swf ?????????
[03:49] <Uber_newbie> that gives me the VGA controller
[03:49] <znejk> SpaceBass: ok ... np but i must be able to use my feodora partitions on ubuntu install i guess
[03:49] <felixhummel> Has someone read my question (and maybe an answer)?
[03:49] <SpaceBass> Shitbird, think it depends on the technology... I use sprint here which is EVDO and in theory is like 2mbs / 512...but I get about 1.25/256k
[03:49] <Uber_newbie> any way i can get the specs on the video card?
[03:49] <SpaceBass> znejk, i'd think so too!
[03:49] <aalhamad> its says that i won't work on ubunut ..
[03:49] <Shitbird> still not bad
[03:49] <Shitbird> I mean for on the go..
[03:49] <hateyla> !lilo
[03:49] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[03:49] <SpaceBass> Shitbird, good enough to watch youtube clips moving down the highway yesterday
[03:49] <elwario91> bonjour
[03:49] <E1ven> I've got a question regarding Awk- gawk versus mawk- In Online tutorials for awk, they show that I should be able to do  {'print $1,$3'} but this doesn't work for me.  {'print $1; print $3'} does, but it prints on two lines.  Am I doing something wrong, or is this a mawk versus gawk issue?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> Uber_newbie:  sudo lshw  for a complet hardware list - try  sudo lshw > lshw.txt && less lshw.txt
[03:50] <Shitbird> you can watch csi..  lol
[03:50] <elwario91> quel est le paquet contenant les bibliotheques opengl sachant que j'ai install nvidia-glx
[03:50] <thoreauputic> !fr
[03:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:50] <Shitbird> it's aight' on the go
[03:50] <Uber_newbie> i tried lshw but id didn't find any hardware specific to my video card
[03:50] <Shitbird> I wanted to check out democracy player but I couldn't get it to work.. you may like it
[03:51] <Shitbird> if it runs on your machine
[03:51] <SpaceBass> it I could get VLC to work as a VOD server, then I'd be really happy
[03:51] <thoreauputic> Shitbird: change your nick please - it's offensive
[03:52] <Shitbird> ok..
[03:52] <Shitbird> jeepers
[03:52] <cancos> it's offending whom? Birds?
[03:52] <cancos> oh, you just meant vulgar ;)
[03:53] <Shitbird> figuring out how.. one sec
[03:53] <Shitbird> new to xchat
[03:53] <thoreauputic> Shitbird:  /nick newnick
[03:54] <super3dmax> exit
[03:54] <foxbat> oops
[03:54] <aalhamad> my printer is detected, and the dirver... I can't print a page ... plzz help
[03:54] <Uber_newbie> lshw when you use sudo gives you waaaay more info
[03:55] <BirdTerd> better now?
[03:55] <torpor> hi ubuntu'ers ..
[03:55] <industria1> hi, someone familiar with acer Hot Key management ?? ?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> BirdTerd: no, and next step is to kick you until you get a clue
[03:55] <cancos> try b1rd-f3c4ls
[03:56] <torpor> i've just happily installed edgy 6.10 on my dads laptop to switch him over from WinXP .. but he's only got a very slow modem in that machine .. is there some way to download all the ubuntu repo's on another machine (like, my powerbook with its hsdp connection), burn it to CD, and bring my pops laptop uptodate that way?
[03:56] <waxyfresh> my dvd brner keeps failing to burn after a reinstall,its always worked before.and imusing the smae cds ive tired 4x to max speed with no luck
[03:56] <torpor> do i just get a repo mirror, put it on CD, add it as a source in synaptic, and use that to do an update?
[03:56] <torpor> or is there some other voodoo required to make this machine updated to the latest and greatest?
[03:57] <jrib> torpor: look into the apt-zip package
[03:57] <cancos> torpor: Try Ubuntu Ningi, it's a full DVD with all the Ubuntu flavours and very nifty programs! just a sec, i'll find the link
[03:57] <torpor> ok, appreciate it guys .. thanks.
[03:57] <mweichert> wantbeer: when I execute a command in the preconfiguration file, is it in the context of the filesystem.squashfs?
[03:58] <greig_> hi all, can i a ask, is there a default root password? i upgraded from 5.10 to 6.6? and i had a few error which i thinks now fixed but when i run updates now it asks for a pass and the pass i did set nolonger works?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> !root
[03:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:58] <g_rated> am I welcome here?
[03:58] <g_rated> jeez
[03:59] <thoreauputic> g_rated: just remember it's a channel fro everyone and some people might be more easily offended than others
[03:59] <g_rated> by the word terdbird????   please...losen up you stiff..  grow a sense of humor
[03:59] <dyrne> greig_: easiest is to boot into recovery and change the password also make sure you are mamber of the admin group. the groups command will tell you. you can also enable root from recovery if you need to by passwd root
[03:59] <thoreauputic> !coc | grated
[03:59] <ubotu> grated: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:00] <genii> There any good vrml plugins for firefox ?
[04:00] <thoreauputic> g_rated: it isn't me I'm concerned about
[04:00] <cancos> torpor: http://www.ubuntu-hr.org/ningi/
[04:00] <g_rated> look man, let's just close this w/ a simple "I'm sorry"
[04:00] <torpor> cancos: thanks!  that looks good .. i'll dl it now ..
[04:00] <LjL> genii all i know of is standalone players
[04:00] <g_rated> it's g_rated for now on
[04:00] <thoreauputic> g_rated: OK
[04:00] <kbrosnan> genii: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org might have some options
[04:01] <genii> LjL , kbrosnan OK, thanks
[04:01] <greig_> dyrne : ok, also since ive updated i have no terminal i get a error saying gnome terminal no such file or directort. i think it has majorly messed up
[04:01] <torpor> okay thaqt looks great .. thanks guys .. i'm off to upgrade pops ubuntu install and get him set up so he can use it tonight when he gets home from work.  he's very excited to be ditching windows XP!! ;)
[04:03] <sdnnvs> teste
[04:03] <thoreauputic> sdnnvs: failed
[04:04] <milan> hi i have a problem in normal GNOME session direct rendering = yes, and in xgl session it's no
[04:04] <waxyfresh> my dvd brner keeps failing to burn after a reinstall,its always worked before.and imusing the smae cds ive tired 4x to max speed with no luck
[04:04] <g_rated> look balzac..  hitler might get on your case next
[04:04] <milan> and i gives the following error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[04:04] <LjL> g_rated: ?
[04:05] <felixhummel> How do I make F12 print "hello World"? I dumped the keymap with 'dumpkeys --keys-only > /etc/keydump', added 'string F12 = "hello world"' and loaded it with 'loadkeys /etc/keydump'. What am I doing wrong?
[04:05] <anubi1> I NEED HELP MY INTERNET CONNECTION IN UBUNTU FAIL CAN SOMEONE HELP ?
[04:06] <LjL> !caps | anubi1
[04:06] <ubotu> anubi1: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:06] <LaNCeloT_RW> anubi1, do you use cable? ADSL ? Dial-Up ?
[04:06] <LjL> and be more specific
[04:06] <anubi1> pppoe
[04:07] <LaNCeloT_RW> anubi1, ok, do you have rp-pppoe installed?
[04:07] <anubi1> my connection works perfectly in windoes
[04:07] <LaNCeloT_RW> anubi1, if you type adsl-setup it works ?
[04:07] <anubi1> i don't knou
[04:07] <anubi1> now it works
[04:08] <LaNCeloT_RW> anubi1, try login into ubuntu, and type adsl-setup and follow the guide
[04:08] <anubi1> what is adsl-setup ?
[04:08] <erichj> the name says it all
[04:09] <anubi1> i am using a pppoe connection
[04:09] <anubi1> i used pppoeconf
[04:09] <Uber_newbie> hey all i have a 7600gt with 512 mb of ram, when i use sudo lshw it says i only have 256 mb of ram
[04:09] <Uber_newbie> how do i test to make sure i have 512mb
[04:09] <g_rated> maybe your video card is using it's resources
[04:10] <Uber_newbie> is there a /cat/meminfo for video cards?
[04:10] <Uber_newbie> sorry cat /dev/meminfo
[04:10] <Uber_newbie> for video cards
[04:10] <erichj> use the ubuntu hardware manager to check
[04:10] <bulmer> lspci -vvv
[04:10] <anubi1> i can't run it adsl-setup
[04:11] <anubi1> it doesn't exist
[04:11] <LjL> Uber_newbie: the amount of RAM that is to be eaten by the video card, if any, can most likely be set in the BIOS config utility
[04:11] <waxyfresh> !pppoe
[04:11] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:11] <anubi1> can someone please tell me how to make my pppoe connection stable ?
[04:12] <Fossilet_> hello. How to make a deb package for a very simple python script?
[04:12] <LjL> !packaging > Fossilet_    (Fossilet_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:13] <Fossilet_> LjL: Thanks.
[04:13] <Fossilet_> Ubotu means Ubuntu bot?
[04:13] <Uber_newbie> it's a pci-express nvidia card, 7600gt (and the box says it has 512mb)
[04:13] <LjL> Fossilet_: yes, you have a private message from it
[04:14] <Fossilet_> LjL: yes :)
[04:15] <Uber_newbie> ok i did a lspci -vvv and the output sayeth i have 256 with 128 expanded and 128 at a virtual expansion disabled.
[04:15] <Uber_newbie> here's the output of that piece of lspci -vvv:         Region 0: Memory at fa000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] 
[04:15] <Uber_newbie>         Region 1: Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] 
[04:15] <Uber_newbie>         Region 3: Memory at fb000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] 
[04:15] <Uber_newbie>         Region 5: I/O ports at 9c00 [size=128] 
[04:15] <Uber_newbie>         [virtual]  Expansion ROM at fcfe0000 [disabled]  [size=128K] 
[04:15] <Uber_newbie>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[04:15] <LjL> !pastebin | Uber_newbie
[04:15] <ubotu> Uber_newbie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:16] <hateyla> there is no shutdown option in my Kde or Gnome.. Where i found shutdown option or how can i add this option ?
[04:16] <Uber_newbie> apologies
[04:16] <LjL> Uber_newbie: it's refusing to read the first 256 megs, isn't it...
[04:17] <LjL> nevermind
[04:17] <hateyla> there is Just 3 option .. Switch user, log0ff, lockscreen,  .. can i add reboot n shutdown option there?
[04:18] <LjL> hateyla: it should be there. which display manager are you using (GDM, KDM...), if any?
[04:18] <Uber_newbie> is that what you read?
[04:18] <hateyla> now i m using KDM
[04:18] <LjL> Uber_newbie: no. it's what i thought i read, but i've changed my mind after 10 seconds
[04:18] <psyhiczny_borsuk> do U speak Polish :D
[04:19] <dyrne> Uber_newbie: have you tried installing the latest nvidia drivers maybe?
[04:19] <CheshireViking> hateyla, how are you starting gnome/kde? i get that if i start gnome from command line using the startx command, if gnome boots straight into gnome I do get the shutdown button
[04:19] <thoreauputic> !pl
[04:19] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:19] <LjL> Uber_newbie: there's nothing in there that tells *me* (but i might just be missing it) that that memory is being taken from the system RAM. and i don't know where to get that information, short of just going into the BIOS - so i would do that, personally
[04:19] <Uber_newbie> do you know how i can verify that ubuntu is recognizing all the video ram?
[04:19] <hateyla> CheshireViking,  i aint starting from command line.
[04:19] <SpaceBass> anyone know a good commandline dvd ripper?
[04:20] <dyrne> SpaceBass: dd
[04:20] <hateyla> CheshireViking,  No Shutdown And reboot option in KDE or GDM
[04:20] <Uber_newbie> so the bios could be limiting the ram utilization... even though this isn't a onboard video card
[04:20] <CheshireViking> hateyla, it was worth the question anyway, i've no other idea about it, sorry about that
[04:20] <LjL> hateyla: are you from the user that was created automatically during installation, or did you make a new user?
[04:20] <hateyla> CheshireViking,  nevamind dude
[04:21] <hateyla> LjL,  ya default user no new user added.
[04:21] <SpaceBass> dyrne, dd will do decss?
[04:21] <void^> Uber_newbie: grep Memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Uber_newbie:  free -m  will tell you how much RAM the system thinks you have - if the video is using any you will see the discrepancy
[04:22] <hateyla> LjL,  but i change my login screen.. but same problem with  Previous default Ubuntu login theme
[04:22] <LjL> hateyla, try going to kcontrol / system administration / login manager / shutdown, and check that you have "allow shutdown: local -> everybody"
[04:22] <Uber_newbie> nothing
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Uber_newbie: bear in mind that the kernel stack uses a few percent too
[04:22] <hateyla> LjL,  ya i tried this.. before i change its just for root but i edit it with everybody.. but same still no shutdown option.
[04:23] <Uber_newbie> nope it's not using it
[04:23] <LjL> hateyla: if you logout, when you're back to KDM (or GDM) itself, is there a shutdown option there?
[04:23] <hateyla> LjL,  No .. there is no option for Shutdown.
[04:24] <hateyla> LjL, if i change my login screen again maybe can i get that option? is it possible?
[04:24] <g_rated> you said the card itself had 512, right?  So apart from that, how much does the computer itself have?  just curious how much is "lost" in the mix
[04:24] <LjL> hateyla: everything is possible, since i've no idea of what the problem is
[04:25] <hateyla> LjL,  I requested to iknoia too .. he also dont know whtas the problem then he paste this thing on some other i think wikki forum
[04:25] <ted__> ns2.idlemonkeys.net
[04:25] <ted__> :/
[04:25] <Uber_newbie> xorg gound the video card withthe correct vram
[04:26] <hateyla> LjL,  in there Shutdown options there is another tab. name boot manager.. that option is disable..
[04:27] <LjL> hateyla: that shouldn't matter
[04:27] <LjL> hateyla: you aren't using Xgl, Compiz, Beryl or somesuch?
[04:27] <ted__> Why can't I select Beryl as my window manager in Kubuntu? ;/
[04:27] <hateyla> nA i m using just RHEL4 And Windows XP n Ubuntu-Desktop.
[04:28] <LaNCeloT_RW> how do I convert .ogg to .avi or .mpg ??
[04:28] <ted__> LaNCeloT_RW: check out mencoder
[04:28] <LaNCeloT_RW> ted__, i'll check it
[04:28] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know why my root user doesn't have autocompletion when using apt and is there a way to get it anyway? I know the root/sudo stuff, so please don't !root
[04:29] <LjL> hateyla: err, Xgl and friends aren't other distributions... :) but anyway
[04:29] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: edit /etc/bash,bashrc and enable completion
[04:29] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[04:29] <thoreauputic> um bash.bashrc
[04:29] <erUSUL> KenSentMe: you have to enable the bash_completion explicity in your .bashrc (or .bash_profile)
[04:30] <thoreauputic> erUSUL: or globally as above
[04:30] <erUSUL> thoreauputic: ok
[04:30] <thoreauputic> erUSUL: for root that would be root's .bashrc
[04:30] <thoreauputic> ie in /root
[04:30] <hateyla> LjL,  need some info about beryl can i get info about beryl somewhere?
[04:30] <erUSUL> thoreauputic: i know ;)
[04:30] <KnowledgEngi> by root: cd /media/hda3 && chmod 777 *
[04:30] <thoreauputic> erUSUL: OK :)
[04:31] <CheshireViking> !beryl
[04:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:31] <KnowledgEngi> why i cannot rename the directories?
[04:31] <waxyfresh> !beryl
[04:31] <Helmi> hat jemand ne ahnung welchen grund es geben knnte, dass eine datei nicht zum schreiben geffnet werden kann (normale dateiberechtigung, ownership etc. auisgenommen)
[04:31] <KnowledgEngi> in the directory explorer?
[04:31] <LjL> hateyla: no need. i was asking because, on some sites, they're claiming that if you *have* beryl, you can have the problem you're describing. but since you don't have it, that's not it
[04:31] <LjL> !de | helmi
[04:31] <ubotu> helmi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:31] <Helmi> LjL: sorry wrong window
[04:31] <waxyfresh> hateyla: try /join #beryl
[04:31] <hateyla> LjL,  okie..
[04:32] <hateyla> LjL,  which Boot loader you prefare ? is GRUB or Lilo?
[04:32] <pikeshouse88> alright sweet
[04:32] <pikeshouse88> im online for once for irc
[04:32] <pikeshouse88> my university was blocking 6667-6669
[04:32] <pikeshouse88> and 9999..?
[04:32] <pikeshouse88> but 7000 works
[04:32] <LjL> hateyla: i used to fear GRUB, but now i just use it since it's the Ubuntu default. it's not like i mess with bootloaders all that often anyway...
[04:32] <LjL> !enter | pikeshouse88
[04:32] <ubotu> pikeshouse88: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:33] <pikeshouse88> yeah yeah ljl, you dont have to bring the bot into it
[04:33] <Helmi> can anyone imagine a reason why a file cannot be opened in write-mode (except the normal rights/ownership) stuff. it's a file on a smb mount in this case (external NAS box so no local try possible)
[04:33] <hateyla> LjL,  dont know whats the problem with my GRUB.  Create problem 2 times.. before.
[04:33] <LjL> pikeshouse88: you don't spam, and i don't have to.
[04:34] <hateyla> LjL,  i aint use LILO befoire thats why i m asking first.
[04:34] <hateyla> :)
[04:34] <g_rated> if you aren't registered you can't send a pm can you?  sorry..  IRC is an alien world to me
[04:34] <erUSUL> Helmi: the fs is mounted read only
[04:34] <LjL> g_rated: you can, but only if the other user has set an option to allow that. otherwise you can't.
[04:34] <Helmi> g_rated: correct - that's how it is on thisserver
[04:34] <thoreauputic> g_rated:  try  /msg chanserv register <password>
[04:34] <Helmi> ...by default
[04:34] <Helmi> erUSUL: ok thanks but that's not it - that's kind of a "random" problem here
[04:35] <Helmi> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
[04:35] <thoreauputic> g_rated: sorry I meant nickserv
[04:35] <hateyla> how can i check which Video card i have?
[04:35] <Guss> Hi guys - I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu feisty herd 5 on a new intel system. can someone help me with this ?
[04:35] <LjL> !feisty > Guss    (Guss, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:35] <g_rated> anyways..  it was to you thor..  just wanted to say I hope there's no animosity between us, sorry I got ill.. but that was a bit harsh..  duping me on my head and telling me "to get a clue"
[04:36] <g_rated> I would have just changed it..  anyways, you all have a good one
[04:36] <baggito> skype is locking my sound card somehow such that nothing else can get to it. how can i stop this?
[04:36] <Helmi> hateyla: lspci | grep VGA
[04:36] <Guss> LjL: ah. thanks.
[04:36] <baggito> oh i've found a few forum posts, i'll try them first
[04:37] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic, erUSUL, thanks that helped
[04:37] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: yw :)
[04:37] <erUSUL> KenSentMe: no problem
[04:38] <thoreauputic> g_rated: no problem :) no animosity
[04:39] <waxyfresh> frost wire/democracy player bring my compter to a stand still its to the point that i cant run anything besides one of those and whatever background sevices i have rnning any ideas?
[04:40] <LjL> hateyla, i can't find the slightest clue about your shutdown problem. if this has happened since back when you first installed Ubuntu, you should probably file a bug
[04:40] <j0e_x> running Edgy--any fix for U.S.daylight savings change and Evolution yet?
[04:41] <waxyfresh> top says that java from frostwire take up anywhere from 70-117 mbs of my ram is that normal?
[04:41] <g_rated> took me a sec to find where you put that.. command..   (I have my color settings way out of wack)  anyways.. just enter /msg nickserv register <password>  in terminal???  or do I need to use that in xchat somewhere?
[04:41] <hateyla> LjL, : no problem dude thanks alot.. well i try to change my login theme after then i will msg you.
[04:41] <thoreauputic> g_rated: in xchat
[04:42] <g_rated> ok thanks..
[04:42] <g_rated> I'm sure I'll figure it out..  have a good one
[04:42] <thoreauputic> g_rated:  /msg nickserv register yourpasswordhere
[04:42] <thoreauputic> g_rated: :)
[04:42] <thoreauputic> g_rated:  /msg nickserv help  for more info
[04:43] <g_rated> right in chat?
[04:43] <LaNCeloT_RW> Kalkran, man: look at this error plz? :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11044/
[04:43] <g_rated> sorry, had two people trying to talk 2 me at once
[04:43] <LaNCeloT_RW> Kalkran, it occurred when I tried to run Mencoder
[04:43] <thoreauputic> g_rated: yes - try from the channel tab on the left
[04:44] <thoreauputic> the one that says "ubuntu servers" or whatever
[04:44] <Howdy125> Read the top banner .. is this the ubuntu CNR ?? .. http://www.getdeb.net/
[04:44] <LaNCeloT_RW> dudes, an error is occurring when I try to run Mencoder: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11044/  << this is the erros.... anyone could help me?
[04:44] <Kalkran> LaNCeloT_RW: I don't know ;) Check some forums,.. I read about mencoder there  - didn't get it to work either :P xD
[04:44] <LaNCeloT_RW> Kalkran, ok, dude, thankz anyway
[04:44] <Kalkran> LaNCeloT_RW: Hehe yw
[04:45] <ErkiDerLoony> Hi guys! I'm trying to get my ATI X700 work properly. But everytime I try "fglrxinfo" I get the following error: "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"" and fglrxinfo says I'm still running some mesa-project driver...
[04:46] <ErkiDerLoony> I've installed the official proprietary ati-diver.
[04:47] <mcano> BERYL, GLX, ASUS p5B deluxe and nvidia EN7600GT, working like a charm. oho!
[04:48] <craigbass1976> To start noteedit I must modprobe snd-seq  How do I avoid doing that?  Is there a way to have this done at boot automatically?
[04:48] <Takoda_Sky> so.. am I registered now?
[04:48] <brynk> my bluotooth headset keeps disconnecting after a short period of inactivity, what to do?
[04:48] <thoreauputic> craigbass1976: put the module name in /etc/modules
[04:49] <thoreauputic> craigbass1976: on a line at the bottom
[04:49] <craigbass1976> thoreauputic, How do I find out what the module name is?
[04:49] <thoreauputic> craigbass1976: it's snd-seq presumably
[04:49] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:49] <craigbass1976> oh, duh....
[04:49] <thoreauputic> craigbass1976: or snd_seq or something
[04:50] <thoreauputic> craigbass1976: i think you'll find it's snd_seq ( underscore)
[04:50] <linuxboy> which runlevel is the one without gdm ?
[04:51] <Jeeva> hi, i need help, what runlevel must i set, that ubuntu 6.06 with gnome boots into shell and not GDM ?
[04:51] <thoreauputic> linuxboy: same runlevel - debian distros use 2 for both X and non X
[04:51] <thoreauputic> linuxboy: you probabl  want  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop to get out of X
[04:51] <linuxboy> thoreauputic: how do you disable it?  LIke in ubuntu-server ?
[04:52] <thoreauputic> linuxboy: I just told you ^^^
[04:52] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:52] <Jeeva> i want my ubuntu 6.06 to run like ubuntu-server 6.06
[04:52] <Jeeva> without GDM etc
[04:52] <linuxboy> thoreauputic: ok.  lets try stopping gdm on bootup now
[04:52] <Jeeva> must i set runlevel = 1?
[04:52] <linuxboy> hi Jeeva
[04:52] <thoreauputic> linuxboy: ah - for that you need to change a default
[04:52] <KeeNaF> guys .. i have alot of picture to resize .. is there any good package that can resizes in batch of pictures?
[04:52] <Jeeva> yo
[04:52] <KnowledgEngi> root@ubuntu:/media# mount hda3/
[04:52] <KnowledgEngi> [mntent] : line 15 in /etc/fstab is bad
[04:52] <KnowledgEngi> mount: can't find /media/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /e
[04:52] <KnowledgEngi> /dev/hda3       /media/hda3     vfat            defaults umask=0222    0 2
[04:52] <linuxboy> thoreauputic: where ?
[04:52] <KnowledgEngi> why ????
[04:52] <erUSUL> Jeeva: linuxboy 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[04:52] <Jeeva> KeeNaF: Smaller animals thumbnail creator
[04:52] <linuxboy> erUSUL: sies!
[04:52] <thoreauputic> linuxboy:  checking
[04:52] <erUSUL> !paste > KnowledgEngi
[04:52] <Jeeva> k
[04:53] <thoreauputic> linuxboy: /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:53] <thoreauputic> linuxboy: just change it to "false"
[04:53] <erUSUL> Jeeva: linuxboy that will disable gdm for all runlevels
[04:53] <preaction> KnowledgEngi: because you have a space between "defaults" and "umask=0222", it should be a comma. read man /etc/fstab
[04:53] <Jeeva> linuxboy: looks like we're trying to do the same thing
[04:53] <Jeeva> i just joined the # though
[04:54] <KeeNaF> Jeeva, where to get it?
[04:54] <Jeeva> how do i stop FF & O_o from updating once i disabled GDM ?
[04:54] <ardchoille> I just built a .deb package of Tile World: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tworld/  How would I go about getting it added to the repos?
[04:54] <IdleOne> ardchoille, ask in #ubuntu-dev I believe
[04:54] <KnowledgEngi> i need use "," as separator?
[04:54] <KnowledgEngi> preaction,
[04:55] <erUSUL> Jeeva: just remove from the systema everything you do not need
[04:55] <ardchoille> IdleOne: Thank you :)
[04:55] <IdleOne> no problem
[04:55] <JuJuBee> I have been having trouble booting Feisty (3-12-07 build) on a new Intel DG965wh mobo.  It seems that the problem has to do with booting from IDE cdrom.  Anybody know if recent builds have addressed this issue?
[04:55] <preaction> KnowledgEngi: try it and see
[04:55] <JuJuBee> Trying to install...
[04:55] <thoreauputic> JuJuBee: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <schaalml> is it possible to accept the license of j2re using debconf? we use preseeding for automatic installation and it crashes when installing java
[04:56] <BeastlyKings> If anyone can help? I am trying to install the audio codecs for mp3 and such but the site I went to ( http://sernaonubuntu.wikidot.com/setting-up-audo-video-codecs ) tells me to go to synaptic manager and install them but I have no "gstreamerx-plugins-bad" or others. HELP?
[04:56] <JuJuBee> Thanx
[04:56] <L4J> Hello
[04:56] <preaction> !multiverse | BeastlyKings
[04:56] <ubotu> BeastlyKings: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:56] <rNIUS> Hello all :)
[04:56] <mweichert> where do I place the ubuntu.cfg preseed file?
[04:56] <thoreauputic> !codecs| BeastlyKings
[04:56] <ubotu> BeastlyKings: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <IdleOne> !mp3 | BeastlyKings
[04:56] <erUSUL> BeastlyKings: maybe you didn't enable multiverse or you do not have lastest ubuntu (edgy)
[04:56] <mweichert> the docs say put in the root directory of your initrd - there is no /initrd on the cd?
[04:57] <KnowledgEngi> now i have no problem to mount
[04:57] <mweichert> do I put it in /install ?
[04:57] <KnowledgEngi> but why i cannot rename the directory contained in hda3???
[04:57] <L4J> I was here yesterday asking about my digital camera... I was wondering how to get my computer to recoginize my camera when I plug it into the USB thing?... my old camera was recognized... and idk
[04:57] <BeastlyKings> I have 6.10 and I installed 140 updates
[04:57] <preaction> KnowledgEngi: probably because you don't have permission. the umask you specified gives only the owner permission to write files. and the owner is probably root.
[04:58] <IdleOne> BeastlyKings, follow the link ubotu gave you
[04:58] <BeastlyKings> I am
[04:58] <BeastlyKings> thanks
[04:58] <Askar> Is there a way to make a /home partition after installation?
[04:58] <preaction> Askar: yes
[04:59] <SeasidePeter> Hi - is anybody managing to connect a TomTom One to a Ubuntu PC? If so - how?
[04:59] <Askar> preaction: how?
[04:59] <KnowledgEngi> what mask i need for create and rename directory and file??
[04:59] <L4J> brb
[05:00] <preaction> Askar: make the partition, copy the current /home to the new partition, update your /etc/fstab, and then mount the partition. should be all there is to it
[05:00] <KnowledgEngi> i'm using /media/hda3 becouse i have not space avaible in my home
[05:00] <mcano> what's a lurker?
[05:01] <KnowledgEngi> I want use /media/hda3 as  secondary home
[05:01] <preaction> mcano: the people who lurk and don't talk much
[05:01] <Askar> preaction:  then I have to shrink my / partition first..how?
[05:01] <preaction> Askar: gparted
[05:01] <mcano> preaction, ok, thank you, now i need to know what is "lurk"
[05:02] <Takoda_Sky> bangs head into wall
[05:02] <Askar> preaction: I cant shrink it while I use it
[05:03] <preaction> Askar: boot a live CD
[05:03] <preaction> mcano: dictionary.com ?
[05:03] <L4J> Should I upgrade to 6.10 or wait until Fiesty Fawn comes out?
[05:03] <SD> HALLO ALL
[05:03] <gonzaloaf_work> !version
[05:03] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[05:03] <geo_pakistan> n00b here, does ubuntu's default desktop mngr require lots of graphic processing? if my card can run WinXP, can it run Ubuntu's GUI?
[05:03] <gordonjcp> geo_pakistan: oh yeah
[05:03] <IdleOne> geo_pakistan, yes
[05:04] <Askar> !codename
[05:04] <mcano> preaction, yes, sorry
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <angor> Hi folks
[05:04] <angor> is gnome 2.18 available yet for Ubuntu 6.10?
[05:06] <Joy> Iv got a belkin USB wireless adapter and i cnt get it 2 wrk on ubuntu. iv tried using ndiswrapper but that didn't wrk please help
[05:06] <Menasim1> why is the php-5 packege is not updated to last version of PHP?
[05:06] <erichj> angor: don't think so
[05:06] <angor> erichj: how can i go gnome 2.18 with 6.10
[05:06] <angor> or that aint recommended
[05:07] <erichj> i just use whatever is in the reps because it is going to work. stick with 2.16 and wait for 2.18 to get added
[05:08] <L4J> Does anybody know why Ubuntu does not recognise my camera when I connect it to the USB Cable?
[05:09] <erichj> perhaps it's an odd model that just isn't supported yet
[05:09] <billy> L4J:  have you enabled plug-n-play in your BIOS.  I know that I had to enable that in mine.
[05:10] <L4J> billy I haven't , how do I that?
[05:10] <erichj> reboot
[05:10] <Joy> Iv got a belkin USB wireless adapter and i cnt get it 2 wrk on ubuntu. iv tried using ndiswrapper but that didn't wrk please help
[05:10] <erichj> hit key to enter biod
[05:10] <billy> L4J:  when you boot up, there'll be a message such as "Press Del to enter Setup".  It may be f2 or esc that you have to press, but there'll be a message.  Look quick.
[05:10] <erichj> biods
[05:11] <L4J> yes, I will look..
[05:11] <L4J> what should I do next?
[05:11] <erichj> right around the time it is verifying ram and hard drives
[05:11] <erichj> then look for advanced options, will be grouped with usb legacy support most of the time
[05:12] <L4J> oh ok
[05:12] <billy> L4J:  then enter into the menus.  Each motherboard is different, so I'm not sure exactly how yours is setup.  It should be something along the lines of "Plug-n-Play", with a toggle.  Really self explanatory.  You're smart.  You'll see it.
[05:12] <L4J> okay thank you..lol
[05:12] <SD> my fire fox wont work and i have tryed rebooting
[05:12] <erichj> it won't open at all?
[05:12] <jaytee> has anyone migrated from fedora 6 to edgy or feisty?
[05:12] <CheshireViking> SeasidePeter, did you get any answer about connecting a Tom Tom One to a linux pc? I've been wondering about doing that myself with mine, but not got round to trying it yet?
[05:13] <L4J> If my friend does not stop telling me to get MySpace IM.. I swear i'll knock him out.. i've done told him I dont have windows... wow.. some people.. are slow.
[05:13] <billy> SD:  the program doesn't execute or you don't get a connection to internet?  what sort of error are you having?
[05:13] <billy> jaytee:  i used to use FC6.
[05:13] <SD> it comes up with a winow telling me it says its alredy running and i gotta close it
[05:13] <jaytee> billy, how hard was the migration?  or did you just blow away the fc6?
[05:13] <Takoda_Sky> yeah, me..   I pulled right up in the short bus
[05:13] <L4J> rebooting =] 
[05:13] <SD> but its no running
[05:14] <erichj> SD : ps aux (make sure it's not running)
[05:14] <Takoda_Sky> I still can't seem to register this stupid thing
[05:14] <billy> jaytee:  fc6 was the first linux distro I tried.  I've gone ubuntu and haven't looked back (except maybe to debian).
[05:14] <IdleOne> SD, ps aux find the firefox PID and then kill -9 "PIDNUMBER" no quotes
[05:15] <SD> i am a n00b give me instuctions real somple like
[05:15] <jaytee> billy, did you migrate (take all your old documents and settings, etc with you) or just dump fc6 and go to ubuntu?
[05:15] <IdleOne> SD, in terminal type ps aux
[05:15] <erichj> SD: open a terminal and type ps aux
[05:15] <billy> jaytee:  i really didn't have any documents or anything.  I just dumped fc6.
[05:16] <jaytee> SD, a shorter version would be 'ps ae'
[05:16] <rdesh> hi all
[05:16] <jaytee> SD, then find fireox
[05:16] <Takoda_Sky> !register
[05:16] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:16] <SD> ok i did that will it work now?
[05:16] <SD> or have i got to do more?
[05:16] <erichj> find the firefox entry
[05:16] <jaytee> $ ps -ae | grep firefox
[05:17] <billy> SD:  was it disabled before?
[05:17] <rdesh> i need to install ubuntu on 5 machines at my office .. what is the easiest way to do this?  they are marginally different hardware specs, so i was thinking making a master image and imaging each hard drive instead of having to create 5 cds and install one at a time ... will this work?
[05:17] <jaytee> kill -9 xxxx (where xxxx is the number before firefox and firefox-bin)
[05:17] <IdleOne> SD, ps -ae | grep firefox the number on the left is the PID you will type kill -9 number
[05:17] <SD> aliasd hijacked it and killed it
[05:18] <billy> SD:  sorry i got you mixed up with someone else.
[05:18] <IdleOne> jaytee, ty for the ps ae :P
[05:18] <bluefox83> rdesh, probably, but it would work out better for sanity's sake to just do the 5 cds
[05:18] <rdesh> bluefox83: why is that?
[05:18] <VXWorks> can I have IPSec in linux?
[05:18] <erichj> rdesh: look into net install
[05:18] <bluefox83> rdesh, a driver for one pc might not work for the next one
[05:18] <KnowledgEngi> /dev/hda3  /media/hda3     vfat         gid=users,umask=002  02
[05:19] <rdesh> bluefox83: but why can't i just put all the drivers to cover all 5 machines on one image?
[05:19] <jaytee> VXWorks, yipes what an alias!  (I have abandoned pSOS coding here I am working on)
[05:19] <hanatan\> Instead of 5 cd's yoy could a single bootable network install cd
[05:19] <SD> i cant see fire fox there
[05:19] <bluefox83> rdesh, heh, spose you could do that
[05:19] <KnowledgEngi> if i clik in a directory into /media/hda3 the item "rename" is disabled!!!!
[05:19] <KnowledgEngi> /dev/hda3  /media/hda3     vfat         gid=users,umask=002  02
[05:19] <IdleOne> SD, what do you see?
[05:19] <KnowledgEngi> why???
[05:19] <erichj> sd type ps -ae | grep firefox
[05:19] <rdesh> hanatan\: ya but im trying to reduce the number of man hours spent installing on 5 machines
[05:19] <thesaltydog> Why synaptic has disappeared from System menu, together with gparted?
[05:20] <anewbie> hello all.
[05:20] <jaytee> SD, what are you trying to do?  (I cam late to the discussion)
[05:20] <kaushal> Hi
[05:20] <thesaltydog> the .desktop file is there..
[05:20] <bluefox83> rdesh, ubuntu doesn't exactly take long to install in the first place...
[05:20] <kaushal> I have not got any response for my message on ubuntu forums
[05:20] <kaushal> :-/
[05:20] <VXWorks> jaytee: how do I install IPSec?
[05:20] <gonzaloaf_work> hi, in what file is the information about gnome menu entries?
[05:20] <SD> i think i will just wait for aliasd to wake up and get him to fix it
[05:20] <erichj> kaushal: whats your question?
[05:21] <kaushal> even on the ubuntu mailing list
[05:21] <kaushal> also
[05:21] <SD> thank you people but i confuse too easy
[05:21] <IdleOne> SD, probably better off yeah
[05:21] <rdesh> bluefox83: true
[05:21] <billy> kaushal:  how can we help?
[05:21] <kaushal> erichj : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385711&highlight=apt-get+install
[05:21] <Joy> Does any1 no how i can get my Belkin wirless adapter (USB) to work on ubuntu
[05:21] <Joy> ?
[05:21] <Menasim1> why is the php-5 packege is not updated to last version of PHP?
[05:21] <Assargadon> Where the Synaptic cashe are situated?
[05:22] <Assargadon> cash
[05:22] <hanatan\> do you wich chipset the belkin uses
[05:22] <Trist_an> I have a file named toto.txt in a MAIN folder. This folder has sub directories and sub-sub directories, is it possible to copy toto.txt recursively in all the sub directories and sub sub directories?
[05:22] <sipior> Assargadon: cache :)
[05:22] <billy> Menasim1: you'll have to take that up with the Ubuntu developers.
[05:22] <Trist_an> and if so, how?
[05:22] <Menasim1> how?
[05:22] <Assargadon> sipior: yes :)
[05:22] <Joy> no
[05:22] <gonzaloaf_work>  hi, in what file is the information about gnome menu entries? I want to copy the menu entries from one pc to another
[05:23] <Menasim1> Billy: how? or where?
[05:23] <hanatan\> try lsusb and find out the vendor
[05:23] <bluefox83> Menasim1, what version of ubuntu?
[05:23] <billy> Menasim1: try Canonical.
[05:23] <Menasim1> 6.10
[05:23] <sipior> Assargadon: i always assumed that it just uses the apt-cache, in /var/cache/apt
[05:23] <Joy> im a newbie please explain
[05:23] <billy> www.canonical.com
[05:23] <hateyla> i just update my ubuntu to edgy is there any resume option? c0z my net going d/c again n again so i dont want to upgrade same thing again n again.. so is any option in update-manager with resume? can anyone help?
[05:23] <Takoda_Sky> I can't register.. it has to be a trivial typo..  am I suppose to leave the <>  with my password in between?or are they just indicating "where to put the beepin thing???
[05:23] <anewbie> Guys, I'm trying to avoid reinstalling Edubuntu on an old machine, which takes me hours (at least 3H) just to install the operating system. Can I just clone an existing installation and transfer the cloned disk to that old machine? My experience tells me that It's not going to work most of the time. Does anybody know how to do this in Ubuntu? Many thanks.
[05:23] <kaushal> billy : any clue
[05:23] <bluefox83> Menasim1, believe it or not, 6.10 is not the latest and most up to date version, try feisty
[05:23] <rdesh> quesitno 2:  can anyone recommend a good backup solution for a single machine that i'd like to image daily?
[05:23] <kaushal> erichj : any clue
[05:24] <sipior> anewbie: should work, but you'll need to install the boot loader on the target machine
[05:24] <rdesh> *question
[05:24] <hanatan\> You are missing the proper driver most probably so you need to know the chipset
[05:24] <billy> kaushal:  i didn't follow the link.  i have firefox doing something else right now.  what, in a nutshell, is your problem?
[05:24] <Takoda_Sky> anyone?
[05:24] <kaushal> I get Adding system user `stunnel4'...
[05:24] <Joy> im not missing the drivers they just wont wrk wiv ndiswrapper
[05:24] <billy> !backup
[05:24] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:25] <erichj> billy: dpkg can't config stunnel during install for him
[05:25] <bluefox83> Takoda_Sky, the <> were just to show where the password goes
[05:25] <kaushal> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xf7fb6154 ***
[05:25] <Takoda_Sky> well the what can I possibly be doing wrong?
[05:25] <hanatan\> I worked never with ndswrapper, sorry
[05:25] <billy> erichj: ooh.  i'm not sure about that one.
[05:25] <hateyla> !Vmware player
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <bluefox83> Takoda_Sky, just /ns register <pass> <email>
[05:25] <Assargadon> sipior: yes, thanks. Can I use this directory contect as a repository? I want make a disk with packages installed on my Linux.
[05:26] <burner> sudo apt-get install vmware-player does the trick hateyla
[05:26] <Joy> it dosnt wrk wiv the drivers anyway is there another way?
[05:26] <Takoda_Sky> so you can do it all in one step like that?
[05:26] <hateyla> burner,  i installed it but dont know how to use it.
[05:26] <sipior> Assargadon: i wouldn't, as apt-get might make assumptions about what's there
[05:26] <bluefox83> Takoda_Sky, that is the only way...
[05:26] <kaushal> erichj : any ideas
[05:26] <jaytee> VXWorks, it's been awhile since i played ipsec stuff, but will apt-get install ipsec-tools bring in what you need?
[05:26] <sipior> Assargadon: look into making a local repository, and use that
[05:26] <anewbie> Hello sipior. There were at least 3 out of 4 instances that it did not work. I was hoping someone knows of something like Sysprep (or whatever command sequences that can be done) so as to make the cloned disk compatible with the new hardware. I know copying the partition(s) works flawlessly when the hardware is similar. Any ideas? Thanks.
[05:26] <hanatan\> yes try to find the proper linux driver instead of ndswrapper
[05:26] <chainsawdude> hey guys i want to instal ubuntu on my laptop, i have tried it before but couldnt connect to the internet once it was installed, i could however connect to my modem/router page but not past that
[05:26] <Assargadon> sipior: and how can I make local repository?
[05:27] <hanatan\> take a look at aircrack.org
[05:27] <Joy> ill try, any ideas where i can find it
[05:27] <chainsawdude> this is my router http://www.addon-tech.com/arm8100.html any ideas how to sort this ?
[05:27] <sipior> Assargadon: it's been a while for me. try googling for "debian local repository" and interesting things should turn up
[05:27] <burner> hateyla, alt+f2, vmplayer
[05:27] <Assargadon> sipior: thanks, I try yhee
[05:27] <hanatan\> wikipedia has a supported nic list
[05:27] <Assargadon> thee
[05:28] <Joy> thanks
[05:28] <Takoda_Sky> see below..   that is why I thought I had to do it separate steps
[05:28] <froydinn> hy guys, i have a nvidia geforce go 7300 and i want to install the latest drivers, i was going to the nvidia site but a friend told me i should look up for other drivers then the nvidia website ones
[05:28] <Takoda_Sky> !register
[05:28] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:29] <froydinn> what should i do to install the best latest drivers for my nvidia card ? im going towards the xgl later on
[05:29] <kaushal> I reposted to the mailing list
[05:29] <kaushal> so what do i do now
[05:29] <erichj> wait
[05:29] <bluefox83> froydinn, should be in the ubuntu repository
[05:30] <anewbie> hello chainsawdude. Was Ubuntu unable to detect your network settings during setup? Is DHCP enabled in your router/modem?
[05:31] <seong> hi
[05:31] <chainsawdude> yes everything was detected during setup, and yes DHCP is enabled
[05:31] <seong> ubuntu is very difficult to me
[05:32] <bluefox83> seong, how so?
[05:32] <kaushal> erichj : Thanks
[05:32] <billy> seong:  are you new to computing, generally speaking?
[05:32] <seong> how to use this o/s?
[05:32] <BeastlyKings> I forget who I talked to but thank you for helping me install audio codecs. I am VERY happy.
[05:32] <seong> i usually use windows
[05:32] <seong> linux is very difficult to me
[05:32] <seong> but
[05:33] <seong> i want
[05:33] <seong> use this os
[05:33] <bluefox83> seong, just play around, you can't really break anything perminantly like you can in windows
[05:33] <seong> um...;
[05:33] <chainsawdude> seong i think we all want to use something other than winblows :)
[05:33] <billy> seong:  if you really want to learn a little, go through this tutorial.  it really helped me. :) --> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[05:33] <bluefox83> seong, is there something specific you need help with?
[05:34] <billy> seong:  are you using "Edgy Eft", version 6.10?
[05:34] <seong> internet
[05:34] <kaushal> bluefox83 any clue for my question
[05:34] <anewbie> chainsawdude. try to see if your network connection is working by goin to System-->Administration-->Networking. Check if your Ethernet connection is is active. Also check if your default gateway device is set at "eth0".
[05:34] <bluefox83> kaushal, what question? i think i missed it
[05:34] <kaushal> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xf7fb6154 ***
[05:34] <seong> how can i install firefox
[05:34] <seong> ?
[05:35] <kaushal> Adding system user `stunnel4'...
[05:35] <bluefox83> seong, firefox should already be installed
[05:35] <kaushal> Adding system user `stunnel4'...
[05:35] <hanatan\> seong: use synaptic
[05:35] <kaushal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385711&highlight=apt-get+install
[05:35] <henning___> aptget install firefox Id say :o
[05:35] <chainsawdude> anewbie yes the connection is active and does indeed say eth0
[05:35] <billy> hanatan\:  synaptic probably isn't the best choice right now.  Add\Remove Programs is probably the best option.
[05:36] <hanatan\> Oke use sudo apt-get then
[05:36] <bluefox83> what the hell is stunnel4?
[05:36] <billy> seong:  go to "Applications" in the menu.  There's a button labeled "Add Remove Programs".  You can add and remove programs from there.  It's far more user friendly than Synaptic, which you can move on to once you're comfortable.
[05:36] <Joy> hanatan\ do you know the link for the wikipedia supported nic list?
[05:37] <TurtleBoots> hi all
[05:37] <TurtleBoots> does anyone know if there is an equivalent to Norton Ghost for Ubuntu???
[05:37] <bluefox83> TurtleBoots, what's norton ghost?
[05:37] <kaushal> http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/stunnel4
[05:38] <TurtleBoots> software for taking an image of your OS at a point in time then restoring at a later date... get what I mean
[05:38] <TurtleBoots> ?
[05:38] <hanatan\> Isn't norton Ghost a image handling program?
[05:38] <seong> so... how i use hdd?
[05:39] <dade_> hi
[05:39] <NELOVE> hi..
[05:39] <kaushal> bluefox83 : any clue
[05:39] <Joy> hanatan\, do you know the link for the wikipedia supported nic list?
[05:39] <bluefox83> kaushal, looks like a broken package...
[05:40] <dade_> i have a problem on my laptop, many peripherials uses the IRQ 10, my bios does not allow me to disable pci pnp, or to set IRQs manually
[05:40] <hanatan\> Joy, i will have a look
[05:40] <dade_> what can I do ?
[05:40] <bluefox83> kaushal, you might try doing an apt-get upgrade and see if that helps
[05:40] <crackintosh> is there some way i can restore x11 to default configuration?
[05:40] <newage> yes
[05:40] <PriceChild> !xconfig | crackintosh
[05:40] <ubotu> crackintosh: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[05:40] <kaushal> you mean
[05:40] <kaushal> apt-get upgrade stunnel4
[05:41] <bluefox83> TurtleBoots, norton ghost is for backing up your system so it can be used as a restore point when needed, correct?
[05:41] <coldfish> is there any one can help me about gaim connection problem?
[05:41] <bluefox83> kaushal, no, i really mean, apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[05:41] <fulhack> Um, what's the general command to list all the users in a channel?
[05:41] <Nemes> TurtleBoots: maybe you could back up the full file system (/)
[05:41] <kaushal> so is it
[05:42] <Nemes> coldfish: just ask. What's the problem?
[05:42] <TurtleBoots> bluefox83: yes correct. is there such software for ubuntu?
[05:42] <TurtleBoots> Nemes: to where though?
[05:42] <bluefox83> kaushal, basically, you will upgrade your list of possible packages to download, then upgrade *ALL* of your current packages that have updates available
[05:42] <frenzy> can some one help me ... i mounted my second hd yesterday and today its gone
[05:42] <TurtleBoots> Nemes: or how rather ufsdump ??
[05:42] <kaushal> apt-get update stunnel4
[05:42] <newage> mmm.. finally I could intall beryl in ubuntu :D
[05:42] <bluefox83> frenzy, where'd you mount it to?
[05:43] <kaushal> apt-get upgrade stunnel4
[05:43] <billy> newage:  awesome!
[05:43] <marshall> hey guys, im running exaile svn's latest build and i would like to use the equilizer feature but i get an error saying i need gstreamer-plugins-bad. there doesnt seem to be a package like that in the repos though (edgy). does anybody know how i might get this package?
[05:43] <newage> is prety cool :P
[05:43] <CheshireViking> TurtleBoots, http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html#2 list a couple of equivalents for Norton Ghost, g4u and udp cast, don't know if either of them is listed in synaptic or whether you have to download a boot disk/cd to use them (or even if they're still current software)
[05:43] <j0e_x> hello, am running Edgy--any fix for U.S.daylight savings change and Evolution yet?
[05:43] <anewbie> chainsawdude. click the properties of your network connection and see if "DHCP" is selected. It's under Connection Settings-->Configuration. If not, make it so. Just curious... is your modem an adsl modem or a router?
[05:43] <bluefox83> kaushal, NO, *just* sudo apt-get update   then do sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:43] <TurtleBoots> cheers mate :-)
[05:44] <kaushal> ok
[05:44] <kaushal> Let me try it out
[05:44] <kaushal> Thanks
[05:44] <dyrne> j0e_x: evolution doesnt just use the system clock?
[05:44] <frenzy> bluefox83, to meadia/hdb
[05:44] <j0e_x> no i am one hour behind
[05:44] <bluefox83> frenzy, whats the partition named? /dev/hdb1?
[05:44] <erUSUL> !mp3 | marshall
[05:44] <ubotu> marshall: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:45] <ceaser> Does anybody know a good, stand alone run box application?
[05:45] <chainsawdude> anewbie yes DHCP is enabled and its a router http://www.addon-tech.com/arm8100.html
[05:45] <marshall> erUSUL, thanks for all your help
[05:45] <coldfish> i installed the lastest version of gaim. beta6. although DNS is all right, i couldn't connect to ".net service". AMsn is working perfectly.. what can be the reason of this?
[05:45] <foutrelis> How can I add a greek dictionary to Evolution?
[05:45] <frenzy> bluefox83, hdb there are no partitions
[05:45] <twice2> how to install Skencil?
[05:45] <bluefox83> coldfish, beta versions aren't exactly stable...go find the gaim channel and ask them please
[05:45] <coldfish> is there any limit for the password length?
[05:46] <erUSUL> marshall: no problem
[05:46] <anewbie> chainsawdude... is your router configured to connect to the internet? have you tried it before?
[05:46] <coldfish> thanks bluefox83
[05:46] <bluefox83> frenzy, there will be atleast one partition, probably /dev/hda1
[05:46] <bluefox83> frenzy, so mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb
[05:46] <eck> foutrelis: i think you can add a new dictionary in the gnome dictionary program
[05:46] <DemisM> what app does the install app use to resize partitions?
[05:46] <chainsawdude> anewbie im connected to the net on it now, but im useing windows at the moment
[05:46] <foutrelis> eck: thanks. let me check :)
[05:46] <frenzy> bluefox83,  i just looked on my fstab and its already there .../dev/hdb1 /media/hdb ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[05:47] <lugod> does anyone know how to force Openoffice to use ISO date format? It ignores my locale and uses mm/dd/yy notation :(
[05:47] <bluefox83> frenzy, then just make sure you have access to it ;)
[05:47] <eck> foutrelis: or else try adding an aspell dictionary, that is what gnome uses
[05:47] <twice2> skencil
[05:47] <j0e_x> thx--gonna try gnome channel
[05:47] <chainsawdude> anewbie i can connect to the actual router webadmin page when i had ubuntu installed, but not to the internet
[05:47] <hanatan\> joy: Here you might find some more info :http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatible_cards
[05:48] <eck> DemisM: it uses a number of programs... i think in resizing a partition in uses parted to rearrange the contents of the partition, and then it uses fdisk to rewrite the partition table
[05:48] <frenzy> bluefox83, i do ,... its jusa that now i cant see it... /media/hdb is empty
[05:48] <UUser> hey duds...
[05:48] <anewbie> okay... check if your DNS server is set at the IP address of your router... your default gateway(?). check your default gateway.
[05:48] <DemisM> eck, it has a simple UI though, any idea what that is?
[05:48] <bluefox83> frenzy, is it mounted with read/write access? do you have privileges?
[05:48] <frenzy> bluefox83, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11050/
[05:48] <Joy> thanks a lot
[05:49] <UUser> my text mode (terminal) screen resolution looks weird, how do i change it?
[05:49] <UUser> the text is too big
[05:49] <bluefox83> frenzy, sorry, i don't do ntfs anymore as i no longer have windows..and have nothing to look on as a guide myself
[05:49] <chainsawdude> anewbie do i set that in the connection properties in ubuntu or in the router admin?
[05:49] <frenzy> bluefox83,  thx anyway
[05:50] <IgorSobreira> hey guys...whats the website that i can generate a good sources.list ??
[05:50] <stugster> I'm about to take the plunge :D
[05:50] <bluefox83> frenzy, yup..sorry i couldn't help. didn't think it would be a good idea to fubar your partition just trying to help
[05:50] <stugster> I just bought an HP laptop and it came pre-installed with about 2 GB of crap
[05:50] <stugster> not to mention their 2GB partition for backup
[05:50] <stugster> and NO windows disc
[05:50] <billy> IgorSobreira: Edgy?
[05:50] <stugster> so screw them
[05:50] <frenzy> bluefox83: fubar?
[05:50] <stugster> i wanna go Ubuntu
[05:51] <stugster> is it goooood? :D
[05:51] <foutrelis> !ohmy | stugster
[05:51] <ubotu> stugster: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:51] <foutrelis> :)
[05:51] <sipior> anewbie: if you're cloning the disk partition, it should work just fine, modulo any hardware settings that may not be appropriate for the target machine. grub will need to be run on this machine, since the MBR is not copied over. or maybe i misunderstand your situation?
[05:51] <bluefox83> frenzy, screw up
[05:51] <SeasidePeter> CheshireVikiing - no, I didn't. Have posted in the ubuntu NG. Fingers crossed.
[05:51] <stugster> sorry, so baws to them
[05:51] <chainsawdude> same here stugster but i cant seen=m to connect to the net with ubuntu
[05:51] <anewbie> do that in the network settings in ubuntu. But if your network card is set to DHCP. I can't understand why it is not already detected. anyway, just make sure they are the same in windows and in ubuntu.
[05:51] <foutrelis> stugster: Go ahead and try Ubuntu. You 'll fell in love with it :)
[05:51] <foutrelis> *fall :\
[05:51] <stugster> my HP laptop comes with biometrics
[05:51] <chrismhampson> is there a nice easy way to install a deb file AND its dependencies?
[05:51] <finalbeta> stugster: I'm sure we all recommend you to run the live CD for a while first.  It doesn't require you to install to the HD, but will give you the full ubuntu OS, and you will see if all of your hardware works fine.
[05:51] <stugster> will i be able to still use that?
[05:52] <eck> DemisM: that is gparted
[05:52] <chainsawdude> anewbie ok thx mate, ill try messing about with it again
[05:52] <foutrelis> stugster: I'm not sure.
[05:52] <bluefox83> stugster, :O i dunno
[05:52] <stugster> Live CD
[05:52] <stugster> good idea
[05:52] <eck> DemisM: i think they just embedded it into the installer
[05:52] <stugster> i'm 25% of the full version
[05:52] <stugster> so i'll go get that whilst i'm waiting
[05:52] <isildur> can anyone tell me which command to use to start the boinc-manager?
[05:52] <sipior> chrismhampson: not outside of apt, i don't believe
[05:53] <chainsawdude> ubuntu seems great at desktop level, i just cant get connected to the net, if i could id use ubuntu all thew time :D
[05:53] <anewbie> sipior.. yes, you got it right. so how do I go about "modulo". I know about grub... that's easy via the "repair" facility in the installation disk.
[05:53] <finalbeta> When you download Ubuntu, u usually download the live CD. The live CD has an installer on the desktop you can run whenever you would wish to install Ubuntu to the HD.
[05:53] <frenzy> anyone know anything about ntfs partitions and ntfs-3g
[05:53] <finalbeta> stugster: ^
[05:53] <billy> !ntfs | frenzy
[05:53] <ubotu> frenzy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:53] <stugster> nice one
[05:53] <chrismhampson> sipior: so is there a way to direct apt to a local deb file and therefore also install dependencies?
[05:53] <billy> !ntfs-3g | frenzy
[05:53] <ubotu> frenzy: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:53] <stugster> i'm downloading ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:53] <stugster> so i assume that has it :)
[05:53] <frenzy> thx billy
[05:53] <billy> right on frenzy.
[05:53] <chainsawdude> im off to try it again cya later :D
[05:53] <eck> foutrelis: if that doesn't work, there's an #evolution channel on irc.gnome.org
[05:53] <anewbie> chainsawdude... ubuntu is very addictive. :D
[05:53] <sipior> chrismhampson: you'd have to google for setting up a local repository and directing apt to use that
[05:54] <client2528> nsun
[05:54] <stugster> now...
[05:54] <chrismhampson> sipior: thanks
[05:54] <stugster> it's not just me using the laptop
[05:54] <stugster> my g/f uses it
[05:54] <client2528> mansun
[05:54] <finalbeta> stugster: yes, after you burn that, you can boot from it, it will give you ubuntu.
[05:54] <stugster> will she be smart enough to use it?
[05:54] <billy> hahahaha
[05:54] <foutrelis> eck: I installed aspell-el and I just ckecked Evolution. It works like a charm! Thanks man :)
[05:54] <bluefox83> stugster, my gf uses it and she says she is "etarded"
[05:54] <ardchoille> stugster: I have an 8 year old neice that uses Ubuntu Dapper :)
[05:54] <stugster> lol
[05:54] <finalbeta> stugster: don't know, is she blond?
[05:54] <stugster> yeh she is
[05:55] <billy> stugster:  my wife uses it fine.  just be sure to put launchers in the panel.  ;-)
[05:55] <DM|> how does one figure out their IP address in ubuntu
[05:55] <stugster> i had firefox open, running, and she asked where the internet window was...
[05:55] <bluefox83> lol
[05:55] <finalbeta> stugster: then you are dating my mom
[05:55] <sipior> DM|: ifconfig
[05:55] <billy> stugster:  you need to sudo apt-get upgrade girlfriend.
[05:55] <DM|> ty
[05:55] <finalbeta> she ain't really blond though.
[05:55] <bluefox83> stugster, uhm...not sure about that one :O
[05:55] <stugster> i've got a server running CentOS at the moment, but it's all CL and there's no graphics
[05:55] <ferronica> How do i use terminal to burn a Data CD, I have Downloded one Movie file in Xvid can i burn it in DVD now via terminal
[05:56] <bluefox83> ferronica, you could, but that's a royal pain in the butt...
[05:56] <l90bpm> and to get the DNS as well?  would it be ifconfig/all
[05:56] <ferronica> Avi format
[05:56] <hanatan\> with dd you can burn a cd/dvd
[05:56] <lugod> hi! does anyone know how to force Openoffice to use ISO date format? It ignores my locale and uses mm/dd/yy notation :(
[05:56] <chrismhampson> does anyone know how to fix the realplayer firefox bbc stream issue?
[05:56] <DemisM> do any of you guys back-up your files? if so what do you use? I just need simple backup of my school files.
[05:57] <billy> !backup | DemisM
[05:57] <ubotu> DemisM: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:57] <ferronica> bluefox83: Ok then can i burn it As DATA CD
[05:57] <sipior> anewbie: if there are no hardware-specific packages for either machine, i think you can just clone the disk, run grub on the target machine, and reboot. if the machines are of different architectures, this obviously won't work :)
[05:57] <ardchoille> DemisM: I use tar to backup $HOME and partimage to backup my /dev/hda1
[05:57] <freepenguin> ciao a tutti
[05:57] <billy> !botsnack
[05:57] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:57] <ferronica> bluefox83: using terminal ????
[05:57] <freepenguin> sapete mica indicarmi niente su questo problema perch  una cosa che mi scoccia abb. e nessuno mi risp http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=70420.0
[05:57] <bluefox83> ferronica, you can burn it any way you want...it's just always more of a pain in terminal than it would to use something like k3b
[05:57] <bryanjk> Heres a question about Teamspeak 2, how come whenever I connect to a server it mutes my microphone and sound like its thinking I have no sound?
[05:57] <lugod> DemisM: rsync is a good tool for making backups
[05:57] <sipior> DemisM: i just bought a cheap PATA disk with an external enclosure, copy everything to that. ran me about 100
[05:58] <finalbeta> DemisM: i'm using a Folder synchronization program, it only updates the files that have changed to my USB HD. But the program is in Java 6, Java6 is not yet install on end user desktops.
[05:58] <ferronica> bluefox83: you mean better to use K3B not terminal
[05:58] <DemisM>  finalbeta: java 6 wouldn't be a problem :)
[05:58] <finalbeta> DemisM: http://sourceforge.net/projects/foldersync
[05:58] <stugster> can i install dreamweaver?
[05:58] <anewbie> sipior... yes. that's what I'm afraid of. I've tried that to my exteme disappointment. however, thanks. maybe, another 3 hours is not that too long anyway. Thanks! cheers! :D
[05:58] <sipior> anewbie: good luck
[05:59] <bluefox83> ferronica, i said easier...then again some people like typing out a bazillion little flags and such to get one file to burn to disk...
[05:59] <lugod> DemisM: there is 'grsync' if you want a graphical tool (it's in the universe repository)
[05:59] <finalbeta> DemisM: currently the program supports a bunch of synchronization/merge methods, include/exclude filters, project saving. The next version will support synchronization over SFTP.
[05:59] <anewbie> good luck too, to all you guys out there. many thanks. bye.
[05:59] <DM|> Can i use VNCviewer to connect to a winXP client
[05:59] <BlackPhoenix313> hi i'm looking for a way to get a linux dist. on a usb drive
[06:00] <neozen> you mean a winvnc server?
[06:00] <BlackPhoenix313> does ubuntu have an installer for that
[06:00] <piggyg1> yeah
[06:00] <piggyg1> winvnc server
[06:00] <piggyg1> is what you need
[06:00] <ferronica> bluefox83: i have K3B to burn, should i use it???
[06:00] <bluefox83> ferronica, sure
[06:00] <piggyg1> if you want to connect to REMOTE DESKTOP well thats another tool which is also included in ubuntu 6.10
[06:00] <lugod> BlackPhoenix313: are you going to boot off the UDB drive?
[06:00] <piggyg1> I forgot what it was though
[06:00] <bluefox83> ferronica, it's all up to you, linux is all about flexibility, use what you like!
[06:01] <xota> hi!
[06:01] <ferronica> bluefox83: only advance user can  use terminal ???
[06:01] <neozen> ferronica: heck no
[06:01] <xota> how can i compile a program to an ARM arquitecture from my ubuntu edgy amd64
[06:01] <neozen> ferronica: I recommend EVERYONE use the terminal
[06:01] <bluefox83> ferronica, i dunno..you could probably do it..i've never liked burning via the terminal
[06:01] <finalbeta> DM|: Only if the windows client has a VNC server installed. Ubuntu has a terminal services client though. it's somewhere in the menu's.
[06:01] <finalbeta> !terminal services
[06:01] <LaNCeloT_RW> Hi dudes, take a look at my system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sUlO4Shx1k
[06:02] <DM|> finalbeta aye thanks, is VNCviewer faster?
[06:02] <lugod> xota: you need to use a cross-compiler
[06:02] <l90bpm> slugster, wikipedia says you can
[06:02] <neozen> ferronica: though for certain applications... its just easier to use the gui frontends
[06:02] <xota> yes, but hwo can i get it?
[06:02] <l90bpm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_Dreamweaver
[06:02] <bluefox83> neozen, we were specifically referring to burning an avi to dvd
[06:03] <DM|> LaNCeloT_RW what did you use to record
[06:03] <neozen> bluefox83: aaaaaahhhh
[06:03] <finalbeta> DM|: perhaps, but not noticeably. the terminal services are better integrated in windows though. They will let you log in right after starting up, while I think for VNC a user already has to be logged in.
[06:03] <LaNCeloT_RW> DM|, Instanbul
[06:03] <LaNCeloT_RW> but it records ins ogg
[06:03] <neozen> bluefox83: for that.... even I use graveman
[06:03] <LaNCeloT_RW> then you need to convert to avi to upload to youtube
[06:03] <bluefox83> neozen, my experience showed me that burning via terminal is a royal pain in the butt
[06:03] <DM|> LaNCeloT_RW that was buggy and slow for me
[06:03] <neozen> bluefox83: I'd believe it
[06:04] <LaNCeloT_RW> you should change the resolution record
[06:04] <bluefox83> neozen, graveman?
[06:04] <finalbeta> DM|: System - Preferences -Terminal server client << I know, it makes no sense to put it there :p
[06:04] <neozen> bluefox83: yeah
[06:04] <ant__> 22zen> bluefox83: aaaaaahhhh
 DM|: perhaps, but not noticeably. the terminal services are better
[06:04] <ant__>             integrated in windows though. They will let you log in right after
[06:04] <ant__>             starting up, while I think for VNC a user already has to be logged
[06:04] <ant__>             in.
 DM|, Instanbul
[06:04] <ant__> -:- SignOff client2528: #ubuntu (Client Quit)
 but it records ins ogg
 bluefox83: for that.... even I use graveman
[06:04] <LaNCeloT_RW> DM|, right click then put on "medium"
 then you need to convert to avi to upload to youtube
 neozen, my experience showed me that burning via terminal is a
[06:04] <ant__>             royal pain in the butt
 LaNCeloT_RW that was buggy and slow for me
[06:04] <lugod> xota: it's not very easy to set up :(
 bluefox83: I'd believe it
 you should change the resolution record
 neozen, graveman?
[06:04] <IdleOne> !ops
[06:04] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[06:04] <bluefox83> wtf
[06:05] <neozen> bluefox83: really lightweight front end to cdrecord, growisofs, etc
[06:05] <lugod> xota: I believe you will need to compile gcc manually with the required configuration tweaking
[06:05] <bluefox83> neozen, neat! i was recommending k3b
[06:05] <neozen> bluefox83: cd/dvd burning app
[06:05] <ant__> sorry guys, middle click slip.
[06:05] <neozen> bluefox83: doesn't require much at all in the way of libraries
[06:05] <PriceChild> ant__, we'll live :)
[06:05] <bXi> anybody here ever played with a cash drawer (in linux of course)
[06:06] <bluefox83> neozen, does it happen to handle burning multiple avi files to dvd and menu generation for the dvd?
[06:06] <neozen> bluefox83: though... if you were talking about CONVERTING an avi to a dvd......
[06:06] <xota> ok lugod thx
[06:06] <neozen> bluefox83: it doesn't do that
[06:06] <neozen> bluefox83: I've just used it for burning stuff to dvd... since the app that comes with xubuntu was soooo broken
[06:07] <neozen> bluefox83: ie.. making data cds and dvds
[06:07] <billy> neozen:  will k3b make backups of movie DVD's?
[06:07] <bluefox83> neozen, know a good program for converting to dvd?
[06:07] <neozen> bluefox83: I'm looking for one myself
[06:08] <ant__> itll be hard to find a free one.
[06:08] <neozen> billy: for that, you want dvd::rip
[06:08] <ant__> without a water mark
[06:08] <neozen> billy: it requires a ton of stuff..... have fun
[06:08] <bluefox83> neozen, i had something, but it was a pain int eh butt to use and was the furthest thing from user friendly...
[06:08] <billy> neozen:  exactly.  and I can't find the stuff it requires.
[06:08] <neozen> billy: I had the same problem
[06:09] <billy> neozen: it's almost as if they don't want you to use it.
[06:09] <jamey-uk> I've just installed Herd 5 and I get "Unknown error executing gpgv" when I do apt-get update. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[06:09] <jamey-uk> Unknown error executing gpgv
[06:09] <neozen> billy: well...... if it was really all that easy to use..... they'd probably get sued
[06:09] <Orfeous> anyone got problems while building ATI drivers with 2.6.20-12-generic kernel? and Ubuntu Feisty?
[06:09] <ant__> jamey-uk : #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <neozen> billy: fair use with dvds is still a hot issue
[06:10] <jamey-uk> ant__: thanks
[06:10] <bluefox83> neoncode, Avidemux will convert an avi to dvd format, but that's *all* it does, and it's really slow about it
[06:10] <bluefox83> er
[06:10] <neozen> bluefox83: its always going to be slow
[06:10] <billy> neozen: yeah.  probably so.  just buy a hardware DVD copier, I guess.
[06:10] <bluefox83> neozen ^
[06:10] <BlackPhoenix313> so there isn't a small version of ubuntu that will fit on a 512mb usb flash drive
[06:10] <BlackPhoenix313> ??
[06:10] <neozen> bluefox83: just from what it has to do
[06:11] <bluefox83> BlackPhoenix313, probably not out of the box
[06:11] <rickyfingers> anyone: what about using dd to make a dvd image?
[06:11] <neozen> bluefox83: accurate mpg2 encoding takes a while
[06:11] <bluefox83> oh
[06:12] <jexdawg> how do i enable tripple buffering in xorg.conf? do i simply add --> Option    "TripleBuffer"  "True" to my devices section?
[06:12] <foutrelis> rickyfingers: Sounds cool :)
[06:12] <bluefox83> there was a program for taking the files Avidemux creates and building menus and stuff and creating an iso..but i forget where it went and what it was called >.>
[06:12] <bluefox83> just that it didn't exactly work well
[06:12] <neozen> billy: if you're just looking to pull the dvd information off and write it to another dvd of the same size (ie, you have a DL burner) that's really easy
[06:12] <Crazytom> BlackPhoenix313, there is an installer
[06:12] <Pollywog> BlackPhoenix313: I read somewhere yesterday that it is possible to put Ubuntu on such a device
[06:12] <Pollywog> I think it was in the forums
[06:12] <Pollywog> ubuntuforums
[06:12] <ant__> BlackPhoenix313 : there is a minimal install but i don't know how big it inflates to
[06:13] <Crazytom> BlackPhoenix313, it's called puppylinux
[06:13] <ant__> BlackPhoenix313 : the iso is only 8 MB though
[06:13] <rickyfingers> foutrelis: I know I can do this, but what about...is there some way dd won't get all the information on a dvd?
[06:13] <l90bpm> I knew beryl was cool.. just didn't know just how cool...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM
[06:13] <billy> neozen: DL burner?
[06:13] <Pollywog> is puppylinux based on Ubuntu?
[06:13] <neozen> billy: dual layer burner
[06:13] <Crazytom> no
[06:13] <xota> LaNCeloT_RW: how you select more than one windows?
[06:13] <billy> neozen: oh yeah.  My burner's one of those.
[06:13] <neozen> billy: ie... you can burn 8.5GB dvds
[06:14] <xota> (on the beryl video)
[06:14] <neozen> billy: then dd might do the job
[06:14] <neozen> billy: am not sure though
[06:14] <billy> neozen: apt-get install dd ?
[06:14] <neozen> lol
[06:14] <neozen> no
[06:14] <billy> darn
[06:14] <neozen> dd is already there
[06:14] <bluefox83> dd should come already in ubuntu
[06:14] <foutrelis> rickyfingers: I don't know. dd copies raw data from one disk to another. I guess it would copy everything.
[06:14] <neozen> its part of the binutils package
[06:14] <neozen> ...which is in everything
[06:15] <LaNCeloT_RW> xota, what do u mean:?
[06:15] <billy> neozen: would it be in my applications menu?
[06:15] <neozen> LOL
[06:15] <neozen> its a console application
[06:15] <l90bpm> xota..  did you watch it?
[06:15] <bluefox83> billy, command line in terminal..have fun with that :X
[06:15] <billy> neozen: one more try.  how about dd --help ?
[06:15] <l90bpm> anyone running beryl?
[06:15] <neozen> man dd
[06:16] <bluefox83> or man dd
[06:16] <billy> neozen: righteous.
[06:16] <bluefox83> l90bpm, yeah
[06:16] <l90bpm> is it really resource hungry?
[06:16] <neozen> (dd works w/ dvd devices right?)
[06:16] <bluefox83> depends on your system
[06:16] <l90bpm> I'm only at 512 on this machine
[06:16] <bluefox83> if you have a newer video card and decent ram, it's fine
[06:16] <l90bpm> nvidia fx 5500
[06:17] <bluefox83> erm, i have that same card and twice the ram, i can easily say it'll be sluggish >.>
[06:17] <l90bpm> save that for the dual core I guess..  uggh
[06:17] <neozen> anyone think I have a shot?
[06:18] <bluefox83> i have a 1.3ghz amd sempron, nvidia 5500fx and 1gb of ram, it doesn't run very good if you want to run a movie, and some applications wont show up at all while you run it (frostwire, and just about anything that's java)
[06:18] <l90bpm> I thought it was just a shell or two.. had no idea it was XGL rebirth of some sort
[06:18] <Izanbardprince> you're probably using the nv driver
[06:18] <foutrelis> neozen: I am trying with a cd :P First time :)
[06:19] <l90bpm> that's pretty sick...
[06:19] <bluefox83> if you don't run frostwire, and don't play movies, you'll be fine...but otherwise movies lag really bad, and skip frmaes badly...
[06:19] <l90bpm> I'm on my way now to fix my nvidia driver
[06:19] <billy> neozen: does dd support burning on the fly?
[06:19] <Izanbardprince> bluefox83: you need the binary legacy Nvidia driver
[06:19] <l90bpm> just wanted to stop and sneek a peek
[06:19] <neozen> billy: NO
[06:19] <bluefox83> Izanbardprince, no, i use the bet driver ;)
[06:19] <bluefox83> *beta
[06:20] <Izanbardprince> isn't the Geforce 5 series legacy?
[06:20] <bluefox83> and it's not a legacy card, so that wouldn't work anyways
[06:20] <neozen> billy: dd ganks the bits from one spot in the filesystem and stuffs them straight into a file someplace else
[06:20] <Izanbardprince> or is that still in the main driver?
[06:20] <bluefox83> main
[06:20] <jexdawg> noob question. if i want to change the directory to my desktop, what is the command? cd ~/Desktop   ?
[06:20] <xota> excuse me LaNCeloT_RW I thinks that you do this... I know that it can be do with beryl 0.2.0 but I don't know how
[06:20] <neozen> billy: its an ancient application ...from a time waaay before dvd disks
[06:20] <bluefox83> legacy furked everything up when i tried it..thought things were gonna explode :X
[06:20] <Pollywog> jexdawg: yes
[06:20] <foutrelis> jexdawg: yes
[06:20] <hanatan\> isn't it posible to dd from /dev/??? to /dev/???
[06:20] <jexdawg> thanks pollywog, foutrelis.
[06:21] <Izanbardprince> I used Envy to install the Nvidia driver for me
[06:21] <bluefox83> hanatan\, probably
[06:21] <bluefox83> what the furk is Envy?
[06:21] <stiv2k> can anyone point me in the direction of a *GOOD* HowTo for setting up a print server with SAMBA....all of the places i've looked don't mention the feature for uploading windows print drivers....HELP!
[06:21] <l90bpm> so you have the 5500??   which driver should I use??
[06:21] <bluefox83> just the main driver in the repos
[06:21] <Izanbardprince> bluefox83: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[06:21] <VXWorks> what is the difference between openVPN and openSSL?
[06:22] <l90bpm> is that the open driver?
[06:22] <Pollywog> I had the 5600 and used the same driver I am using for the 7600
[06:22] <Izanbardprince> it's a deb package
[06:22] <Izanbardprince> install it
[06:22] <l90bpm> yeah.. nm
[06:22] <loufoque> My non anti-aliased truetype fonts render very bad in OpenOffice.org. I didn't have this problem in Dapper Drake. How can I fix this issue?
[06:22] <l90bpm> went stupid again
[06:22] <Izanbardprince> then ctrl-alt-F1
[06:22] <angor> OpenSSL is the free implementation of the SSL crypt. protocol whereas OpenVPN is a VPN software that uses OpenSSL to encrypt all your data over SLL.
[06:22] <angor> rather, SSL.
[06:22] <angor> brb
[06:22] <Izanbardprince> when you're at the command prompt, sudo killall gdm, then sudo envy -t
[06:23] <Izanbardprince> then select option 1
[06:23] <VXWorks> angor, thanks
[06:23] <l90bpm> well I have an on board 6100 that I gladly downgraded for the extra ram
[06:23] <bluefox83> you really don't need Envy to install the latest and greatest nvidia driver...
[06:23] <brakkvatn> Hello. Does anybody else experience that gnomoradio crashes on edgy?
[06:23] <bluefox83> !nvidia
[06:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <l90bpm> what is ENVY?
[06:24] <billy> deadly sin
[06:24] <finalbeta> !envy
[06:24] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[06:24] <finalbeta> don't use it though.
[06:24] <l90bpm> I should have known to do that... sorry
[06:24] <bluefox83> l90bpm, using edgy or dapper?
[06:25] <l90bpm> another week of all these questions and 8million acronyms might not get as confusing
[06:25] <l90bpm> edgy
[06:25] <jexdawg> every time i try to sudo apt-get install something, it says i have a malformed line 27 in  source list. the list of sources could not be read. my 27th line is: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial
[06:25] <jexdawg> what should i do?
[06:25] <l90bpm> upgraded yesterday
[06:25] <bluefox83> ok, then apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:25] <bluefox83> don't forget to use sudo >.>
[06:25] <Izanbardprince> the GLX driver is ancient
[06:25] <l90bpm> me?
[06:25] <billy> jexdawg:  pastebin it for us.
[06:26] <billy> !pastebin | jexdawg
[06:26] <ubotu> jexdawg: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:26] <foutrelis> neozen: I just thought that we can use dd to make an iso from the disk and then burn it as iso. :)
[06:26] <bluefox83> then just do sudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:26] <jexdawg> alright billy, one second
[06:26] <Izanbardprince> the latest driver is 9755
[06:26] <rickyfingers> foutrelis: you can do that
[06:26] <foutrelis> ^.^
[06:26] <bluefox83> Izanbardprince, if i already have a driver installed, will envy remove it before installing the latest driver?
[06:27] <rickyfingers> foutrelis: sorry I was on the phone for a minute. the command is dd if=/dev/hd<whatever-letter> of=/dev/your-image-name
[06:27] <Izanbardprince> no, when you're at the command line, use sudo aptitude remove nvidia-glx
[06:27] <Izanbardprince> then sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx
[06:27] <rickyfingers> foutrelis: wait I made a mistake:
[06:27] <Izanbardprince> then run envy
[06:27] <bluefox83> i don't use aptitude...just apt or synaptic
[06:27] <rickyfingers>  dd if=/dev/hd<whatever-letter> of=your-image-name
[06:28] <bluefox83> hold on, gonna check what version of the driver i have installed
[06:28] <Izanbardprince> I find it's better to use aptitude for important packages
[06:28] <foutrelis> rickyfingers: <3
[06:28] <billy> what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[06:28] <Izanbardprince> aptitude handles dependencies better
[06:28] <rickyfingers> foutrelis: I don't know that emoticon.  just make sure when you give that command
[06:28] <Izanbardprince> but it's more complicated sometimes
[06:28] <jexdawg> billy and others, paste-bin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11054/
[06:29] <rickyfingers> /dev/hd<whatever-letter> points to the right drive, otherwise you might end up copying a bigger disk
[06:29] <billy> thanks Izanbardprince
[06:29] <rickyfingers> /dev/hd<whatever-letter> points to the right drive, otherwise you might end up copying a bigger disk and eating up all the space on the target drive.
[06:29] <VXWorks> pisec-tools is compatible with IPSec from windows?
[06:29] <VXWorks> *ipsec
[06:29] <stiv2k> can anyone point me in the direction of a *GOOD* (ubuntu) HowTo for setting up a print server with SAMBA....all of the places i've looked don't mention the feature for uploading windows print drivers....HELP!
[06:29] <Izanbardprince> whenever you're dealing with metapackages or systemwide stuff, use aptitude
[06:29] <l90bpm> why can I not copy and paste from xchat?
[06:29] <foutrelis> rickyfingers: I made an iso. I 'll burn it and test the cd afterwards :)
[06:29] <l90bpm> is everything going to try and get at me today?  jeez
[06:30] <billy> Izanbardprince: I'll have to study up on it.  i've always used apt-get.
[06:30] <rickyfingers> foutrelis: kewl  let me know if you run in to any snags.  I copy cd's with that frequently
[06:30] <rickyfingers> l90bpm: just a shot in the dark, but maybe copy is done when you select, and paste is by clicking the middle mouse button, like in older x apps.
[06:30] <billy> Could somebody look at jexdawg's pastebin link.  I don't see what's wrong, unless the rep just doesn't exist or something.
[06:31] <billy> you're looking at line 27.
[06:31] <Pollywog> I have this in mine: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[06:31] <Pollywog> and it works
[06:31] <l90bpm> yep
[06:31] <Orfeous> i really dont know what to do about my dman ATI card.. :D
[06:32] <Orfeous> damn
[06:32] <Izanbardprince> billy: Type apt-get moo
[06:32] <Izanbardprince> :P
[06:32] <l90bpm> thanks for that lil piece of info..  I would have never figured that out w/ windows native  Bleep
[06:32] <billy> jexdawg:  add "main" to the line.
[06:32] <jexdawg> alright
[06:32] <billy> Izanbardprince: eh?
[06:32] <Izanbardprince> apt-get moo
[06:33] <hylje> greetings. the filesystem went read-only whilst updating
[06:33] <billy> what is moo?
[06:33] <VXWorks> ipsec-tools is compatible with IPSec from windows?
[06:33] <neozen> billy: an easter egg
[06:33] <neozen> neozen@darkbeauty:~$ apt-get moo
[06:33] <neozen>          (__)
[06:33] <neozen>          (oo)
[06:33] <neozen>    /------\/
[06:33] <neozen>   / |    ||
[06:33] <neozen>  *  /\---/\
[06:33] <neozen>     ~~   ~~
[06:33] <neozen> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[06:33] <neozen> neozen@darkbeauty:~$
[06:33] <l90bpm> lol
[06:33] <billy> that's perfect!! lol
[06:34] <billy> apt-get crack
[06:34] <Pollywog> I thought it said something about Super Cow Powers too
[06:34] <Izanbardprince> two things came out of UC Berkeley around the same time
[06:34] <neozen> Pollywog: that's why
[06:34] <Izanbardprince> BSD UNIX and Acid
[06:34] <neozen> Pollywog: just their little joke
[06:34] <Izanbardprince> co-incidence?
[06:34] <Izanbardprince> I think not
[06:34] <qopi> !Mplayer
[06:34] <neozen> aptitude has one as well
[06:34] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[06:34] <IdleOne> !offtopic | Izanbardprince
[06:35] <ubotu> Izanbardprince: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:35] <billy> Gosta run to university.  Be back laterz.
[06:35] <neozen> you just have to tell it to be more verbose
[06:35] <billy> Keep the spirit of Ubuntu ... or something.
[06:35] <neozen> then more more verbose etc
[06:35] <Askar> Anyone knows how to uninstall the s.c.o.u.r.g.e game?
[06:35] <mjhb> is there a seperate channel for 64bit users
[06:35] <rickyfingers> Izanbardprince: you're not writing an operating system while high on LSD - it's just not possible to do the kind of thinking one needs to do.
[06:35] <Pollywog> #ubuntu is the antidote to university
[06:36] <Crazytom> TheV
[06:36] <neozen> lol
[06:36] <neozen> that's what I'm using it for Pollywog
[06:36] <neozen> I have a compiler theory final today
[06:36] <neozen> its gonna hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
[06:36] <waxyfresh> Izanbardprince: thats how i lost the screen to my laptop...damn  indoles/triptamines...
[06:37] <waxyfresh> Izanbardprince: what is it your truing to do?
[06:37] <bluefox83> compiler theory? jeez i didn't realize there was such a thing O.o
[06:37] <Izanbardprince> I'm trying to find a VMware image of Plan 9 from bell Labs
[06:38] <neozen> covers nfas, dfa, ML, parser generators, scoping, dynamic dispatch, etc
[06:38] <damg> hmm, I have scim two times in the panel tray, how can I stop them?
[06:38] <pure> which would you guys recommend, WINE or VMware?
[06:38] <Pollywog> Izanbardprince: did you check VMware's website?
[06:38] <mjhb> plan9 sucks
[06:38] <neozen> pure: VMWARE for accurate error free emulation
[06:38] <Pollywog> WINE will not run lots of software that VMware will run
[06:38] <jexdawg> i am so confused... i'm running sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal and nothing is happening. what the heck?
[06:39] <pure> neozen, There  an easy way to install using package manager/apt-get?
[06:39] <Pollywog> I use VMware Workstation so I know
[06:39] <neozen> pure: but if you want any kind of high graphics performance...... forget about it
[06:39] <IdleOne> jexdawg, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:39] <pure> neozen, Thats what i want, want it for Counter Strike
[06:39] <Pollywog> VMware will not run games
[06:39] <neozen> pure: ie... running WoW in a VM inside of VMWare on ubuntu
[06:39] <pure> Argh lol
[06:39] <qopi> !edit
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <damg> wine/winex is the way to go for games
[06:39] <Pollywog> for that use WINE or Cedega
[06:39] <neozen> pure: just use wine
[06:39] <damg> counterstrike should work nice
[06:40] <neozen> winex?
[06:40] <damg> as it has an opengl renderer
[06:40] <damg> (old/free name for cedega)
[06:40] <Pollywog> winex is now Cedega
[06:40] <waxyfresh> Izanbardprince: no i missed the lsd/os programing converstaion so i was wondering what was up with it
[06:40] <neozen> cedega?
[06:40] <neozen> lol
[06:40] <damg> the cvs is still called winex :D
[06:40] <Pollywog> www.transgaming.com
[06:40] <pure> Can someone give me some good movie editing software? (Free :D)
[06:40] <Pollywog> and there is Cider for Macs
[06:40] <bluefox83> ok, so i ran envy, and it wants to restart my machine...why the heck would i want to do that?
[06:40] <neozen> I don't do much gaming... so I don't mess with wine
[06:40] <bob0908> anyone ever have sendmail not throw an error, but just seem to send email off into the ether?
[06:40] <bluefox83> couldn't i just restart X?
[06:40] <jexdawg> idleone, thank you. that did the job, but any idea why gedit wouldn't work?
[06:41] <damg> once upon a time wine used to have a bsd-style licence, so winex just took it and relisenced it under their restrictive terms and optimized it for gaming
[06:41] <IdleOne> jexdawg, none at all sorry
[06:41] <Pollywog> jexdawg: you using KDE?
[06:41] <hylje> might anyone know how to recover from read-only filesystem (remount root as rw)
[06:41] <bob0908> (with the default ubuntu sendmail configuration)
[06:41] <neozen> bluefox83: lol... just restart x
[06:41] <Izanbardprince> I refuse to pay for Cedega
[06:41] <pure> Can someone give me some good movie editing software? (Free :D)
[06:41] <neozen> hylje: well... if you didn't do anything to cause it..... that usually means your HD is taking a dump
[06:41] <finalbeta> pure: avidemux does enough for me.
[06:41] <bluefox83> neozen, well i am looking at the fact that i'm gonna have to reload the nvidia driver..
[06:41] <Izanbardprince> WINE DirectX support has been getting close to Cedega lately
[06:41] <Pollywog> jexdawg: don't use sudo with graphical apps
[06:42] <pure> finalbeta, does it allow like transistions etc. just need it for some school work
[06:42] <hylje> neozen: it happened during updating, might just be I/O hiccup..
[06:42] <finalbeta> it doesn't
[06:42] <neozen> pure: what format?
[06:42] <IdleOne> jexdawg, use gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:42] <Pollywog> you use gksu or the kde equivalent in KDE
[06:42] <jexdawg> pollywog, gnome
[06:42] <pure> neozen, need to be WMVs
[06:42] <damg> yeah, wine reimplemented directx pretty close
[06:42] <Pollywog> gksu then
[06:42] <jexdawg> what is gksu?
[06:42] <damg> (kdesu)
[06:43] <colbert> What is a good range of temperature for CPU to be running at ???
[06:43] <Pollywog> it is sudo for graphical apps
[06:43] <qopi> !codecs
[06:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:43] <stugster> where did i last put my black permenant marker?
[06:43] <bob0908> is sendmail out of the box (with the Ubuntu server intall) meant to be able to send mail to an external address?
[06:43] <IdleOne> stugster, next to the stapler
[06:43] <bluefox83> colbert, any temp that doesn't lead to it catching on fire would be a good start....
[06:43] <stugster> that's scary
[06:43] <stugster> you were right
[06:43] <IdleOne> I know
[06:43] <colbert> bluefox83: lol, true!
[06:44] <stugster> bbs
[06:44] <stugster> gonna check my house for bugs
[06:44] <bluefox83> O.o
[06:44] <colbert> bluefox83: My temp1 and temp2 monitored via LMSensors run at about 43-48 celsius, is that decent?
[06:44] <preaction> colbert: depending on the CPU, yes that's fine
[06:44] <DarkX> mine runs arround 42 on full load
[06:44] <DarkX> 35 idle
[06:44] <bluefox83> colbert, since i myself do not use celsius...and i have no idea what the conversion rate is...i have no idea
[06:44] <preaction> colbert: some AMD AthlonXP run as hot as 55-60
[06:44] <colbert> preaction: I have a p4 2.0ghz
[06:45] <colbert> Wow
[06:45] <IdleOne> blue, 0 celsius = 32 F
[06:45] <preaction> 62 is about where the mobo shuts them down
[06:45] <mjhb> anybody from south africa here
[06:45] <Izanbardprince> bluefox83: control-alt-backspace will restart X
[06:45] <bacho> hello anyone knows any program to sepak on the microphone and openoffice writes it? like dragon natura speaking?
[06:45] <bluefox83> i wouldn't want to tell you to run it at 75 and then your house catch on fire :X
[06:45] <damg> aw, still old borked anjuta in the repos?:/
[06:45] <colbert> hehe
[06:45] <bacho> hello anyone knows any program to sepak on the microphone and openoffice writes it? like dragon natura speaking?
[06:45] <colbert> and what does System Load mean? CPU + ram usage or ?
[06:45] <bluefox83> Izanbardprince, yes i know...but wont i still need to reload the nvidia module first?
[06:46] <neozen> bluefox83: though if your driver has modified your kernel... or is a kernel module..... you'll want to do a FULL reboot
[06:46] <preaction> !repeat | bacho
[06:46] <ubotu> bacho: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:46] <bacho> ok
[06:46] <Izanbardprince> yeah, or else X will just crash
[06:46] <neozen> bacho: nope
[06:46] <Izanbardprince> and dump you back out to the command line
[06:46] <bluefox83> ok, brb
[06:47] <damg> is there a GTK alternative to anjuta ?
[06:47] <neozen> though I've had good experience with flite for simple text-to-speech
[06:47] <damg> dont tell me emacs, i don't like this operating system :D
[06:47] <neozen> gvim!
[06:47] <pure> !nvidia
[06:47] <neozen> !gvim
[06:47] <gdb> Is there an alternatives CD image for edubuntu?  It seems that it's impossible to pass command line options to the kernel at installation time using an edubuntu installation CD.  If there isn't a text mode installer, what packages need to be installed on ubuntu to convert it to "stock" edubuntu?  It's looking like edubuntu-desktop isn't enough.  Anyone have a list of what additional software needs to be installed?
[06:47] <damg> well, I can take gedit then, too
[06:47] <harry__> I need help
[06:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:48] <mjhb> with what harry__
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <pure> How do i send PMs?
[06:48] <Rie1> hey guys, I have two pdf files... one fill with all odd pages, and one file with all even pages... Is there a tool to combine both PDF files?
[06:48] <bacho> in my 9200se didnt needed extra drivers i got beryl +aiglx
[06:49] <wes_> Can anyone help me?
[06:49] <harry__> I have this funny problem where when I try to start a new application.. It says "starting X" [where X is the name]  but then dissapaers.
[06:49] <damg> harry__: are you in a console right now?
[06:49] <Alonea> When I load amarok it says Updating Database... goes away and doesn't load at all.
[06:49] <wes_> I just installed compiz and whenever I log on as my admin account X crashes.
[06:49] <harry__> no
[06:50] <harry__> I had XChat open already
[06:50] <colbert> What can you use to play .flv (Flash) movies ?
[06:50] <brakkvatn> Has anyone here used gnomoradio on edgy?
[06:50] <Peter77> what virtual machine would you recommend for use on a laptop?
[06:50] <damg> colbert: flash plugin, gnash
[06:50] <jexdawg> colbert, vlc ?
[06:50] <jexdawg> err, nvm
[06:50] <hylje> looks like my HD is rather funny, fsck keeps erroring
[06:50] <colbert> damg: gnash? is that a player of its own?
[06:51] <damg> harry__: try to start this application from a console, it should show you some output of what is happening
[06:51] <damg> gnash is a free implementation of flash, not so feature-rich and hacky, I just called it as an alternative
[06:51] <harry__> can I do it from a terminal?
[06:51] <harry__> last time I tried to switch back, it crashed
[06:52] <_mali_> hi, i tried upgrade to 7.04 ad i got this error
[06:52] <wes_> I just installed compiz and whenever I log on as my admin account X crashes.
[06:52] <_mali_>  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/language-pack-gnome-en-base/language-pack-gnome-en-base_7.04+20070313_all.deb MD5Sum
[06:52] <_mali_>                    mismatch
[06:52] <gdb> Please disuccus feisty in #ubuntu+1
[06:52] <wes_> How can I uninstall Compiz?
[06:52] <gdb> discuss*
[06:52] <_mali_> how can i fix it?
[06:52] <damg> harry__: if you try to start a graphic application from a terminal, it will not work
[06:52] <damg> harry__: can you start a gnome-terminal?
[06:52] <damg> or konsole
[06:52] <damg> depends on if you are on gnome or kde
[06:52] <harry__> I have one open already
[06:53] <harry__> that's what I meant
[06:53] <damg> just try to start the application from there
[06:53] <stugster> synaptics reset failed...
[06:53] <stugster> is that bad?
[06:54] <damg> colbert: try mplayer
[06:54] <wes_> How do I login without loading X so that I can load it the next time I login?
[06:55] <bafoc> wes: change the runlevel to 3
[06:55] <harry__> it doesn't seem to do anythin
[06:55] <wes_> How do I login without loading X so that I can load it the next time I login?
[06:55] <damg> harry__: no output in the terminal?
[06:55] <VXWorks> ipsec-tools is compatible with IPSec from windows?
[06:55] <foutrelis> wes_: I don't fully undestand your question, but you can use [sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop]  to stop X :)
[06:55] <wes_> Okay. Thanks.
[06:55] <damg> or just killall gdm ^^
[06:55] <damg> but that's hacky
[06:56] <foutrelis> damg: That too :P
[06:56] <bafoc> foutrelis: when he reboots the system, he doesn't want gdm to start just a prompt
[06:56] <wes_> foutrelis, Oh, I can't use my admin account so I need to disable X to unustall compiz so I can use Beryl and login.
[06:56] <bluefox83> ok..that was not fun
[06:56] <damg> then it should be enough to kill X first
[06:56] <wes_> Uninstall.*
[06:56] <foutrelis> bafoc: As I said, I didn't fully undestand his question. My mistake.
[06:56] <bluefox83> and beryl svn does not like the latest nvidia drivers...
[06:57] <bafoc> np
[06:57] <harry__> The terminal responds to commands, but when I try to say, open a text file with gedit from the command line, nothing happens
[06:57] <wes_> Wait.
[06:57] <bafoc> wes: check this out - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[06:57] <wes_> BRB.
[06:58] <UUser> hey duds how can i disable the terminal bell
[06:58] <UUser> its freakyn annoyng on ubuntu
[06:58] <UUser> its driving me crazy
[06:58] <Audio_1> thats what that is?
[06:58] <name> I am attempting to install Ubuntu for the first time but the install crashes (gray screen + mouse) before configuration options are displayed. MD5 checks out, as does the burn. Google was no help - any ideas here?
[06:58] <Audio_1> man,that thing was driving me nuts earlier
[06:58] <shafto> !nvidia
[06:58] <bafoc> foutrelis: when you boot a linux system you can have the default runlevel (0,1,2,3,4,5,6) 6 is for rebooting, 0,1 singleuser 5, gui GDM, etc..
[06:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:59] <bluefox83> ok, i wonder how i go back from current beryl to older beryl...svn ish ebil...
[06:59] <_Jaak_> whats wrong with the wine 0.9.33 dependencie tree? can't update
[06:59] <dyrne> name: standard suggestion is to download the alternate install cd and install from that. dont know if it will help you
[06:59] <foutrelis> bafoc: Thanks for the information ^.^
[06:59] <froydinn> hey guys, i just updated my nvidia drivers and they work perfectly , whut should i do next to go for the xgl ? should i install compiz ?
[06:59] <mage___> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/110 <-- simple google search
[06:59] <mage___> (for the beeping)
[07:00] <damg> harry__: interesting, have you tried to use the open with ... commando?
[07:00] <name> dyrne: Is that the LTS distro?
[07:00] <harry__> what?
[07:00] <foutrelis> UUser: Maybe this can help? :) http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-linux-disable-or-turn-off-beep-sound-for-terminal/
[07:00] <damg> right-click a file and then open with
[07:00] <mage___> name: what sort of hardware?
[07:01] <damg> or open with a different application, i don't have an english ubuntu right now :)
[07:01] <harry__> if I reboot my computer, it is fine, by the way, but I'd rather not reboot, if there is another way
[07:01] <UUser> foutrelis, tbx dud but i have alread tried that
[07:01] <name> mage__: I'm installing on a Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop
[07:01] <UUser> but did not work
[07:01] <foutrelis> UUser: No luck?
[07:02] <foutrelis> :(
[07:02] <bafoc> damg: right clicking a file say a "pdf" would give you a first option of "open with PDF app name" , then "Open with" :-)
[07:02] <VXWorks> ipsec-tools is compatible with IPSec from windows?
[07:02] <damg> :)
[07:02] <damg> damn, why does my ubuntu have two scims running?:/
[07:03] <UUser> foutrelis, no, those tips are for disabling the beeps within those terminals im looking for a way to disable the beep from the "terminal mode" like when theres no X server running
[07:03] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: are you trying to make a vpn connection between a linux box and a windows box?
[07:03] <Desmaano> hi guys
[07:03] <foutrelis> UUser: Oh. I see.. Hmmm I 'll let you know if I come up with anything :)
[07:03] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, yes
[07:04] <Desmaano> Question:  What if i lost my user and password, is there a recover option or something ?
[07:04] <rickyfingers> OK I'll relate my experience to you with this problem, and then we can figure out the answer to this question.
[07:04] <bafoc> VXWorks: does your windows VPN system have PPTP setup as well?
[07:04] <VXWorks> bafoc, no, only IPSec
[07:04] <damg> Desmaano: boot from a livecd, login as root, chroot to your installation and use passwd. Should work ;)
[07:05] <Desmaano> damg: chroot? whats that?
[07:06] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: this was a while ago that I was doing this, I was able to connect using pptp, but unable to send packets.
[07:06] <bafoc> VXWorks: ah ok... I have only used linux pptp with a windows pptp server...
[07:06] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: I think I was having a routing problem.
[07:06] <shafto> Can someone please suggest a good piece of video  editing software?
[07:07] <c0ldfusi0n> It's a tibetan meal consisting of goat cheese and oak roots. (ch)eese and (root)s. Chroot.
[07:07] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, I see
[07:07] <bafoc> shafto: Kino is good....
[07:07] <damg> Desmaano: it is an application allowing you to change your root directory, this way all applications of your installation run on top of the host system.
[07:07] <bafoc> !chroot
[07:07] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:08] <bafoc> wow the bot has it :-)
[07:08] <kevinm> I'm trying to debug a mirror issue -- is someone here available to help (go to private channel if need be)?
[07:08] <damg> bafoc: better quote the gentoo handbook regarding this ;)
[07:08] <shafto> bafoc, is it free?
[07:08] <mage___> !toorch
[07:08] <c0ldfusi0n> I still prefer my explanation.
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about toorch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: basically what I'm trying to say is that pptp was tricky, I was able to log into the pptp server with ubuntu, but unable to actually use the pptp connection for internet access.
[07:08] <lnx^> hey
[07:09] <bafoc> shafto: yes, click applications - > add/remove and then in the search box type Kino
[07:09] <BeavisX> Howdy
[07:09] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: I should say pptp was tricky for me...someone smarter with networking may have had an easier time of it.
[07:09] <lnx^> is there some little fancy program that i could set to show reminders?
[07:09] <mjhb> pptp for ms vpn?
[07:09] <bXi> O_o
[07:09] <bafoc> mjhb: yes
[07:09] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, year, I got the ideia...
[07:09] <lnx^> preferably somehow integrated with gnome/ubuntu
[07:09] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: on the other hand vpn's are very cool, and you can do a lot with them.
[07:09] <mjhb> pptpd is quite easy dude
[07:09] <mjhb> i can help u
[07:10] <mjhb> pptp*
[07:10] <lnx^> e.g. i could set it to show a reminder up next to the clock in the panel whenever i'm supposed to take backups
[07:10] <secion8> How do I get resolution higher then 1024 X 768, I am using a 15" widescreen lcd
[07:10] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, ok, have u ever tried openVPN ?
[07:10] <name> Are there any known issues installing Ubuntu from a CD-RW? (burnt at 4x & checked)
[07:10] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: don't think so...I mess around with enough stuff that I forget what I've looked at after a few months.
[07:10] <damg> lnx^: try a tomboy applet in gnome, but it has no alert function iirc
[07:11] <mage___> name: checked using the check on the boot command line?
[07:11] <greggwith2gs> hi, I'm having a problem with GRUB getting stuck in some sort of loop on bootup, can anyone help me?
[07:11] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: because as I recall, pptp is not the only way you can do vpn tunnels, there's another protocol who's name escapes me...
[07:11] <lnx^> damg: what's the difference between sticky notes and tomboy notes?
[07:11] <shafto> is the comman dpkg to install .deb files in console?
[07:11] <damg> lnx^: dunno, i use python and cron ^^
[07:11] <bafoc> shafto: yes
[07:11] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: in windows, don't you have the option to use pptp or ipsec...? there's two protocols they offer for vpn's right?
[07:11] <meme-1> Hello folks.... without waisting time (trail and error) can someone suggest the best/closest match to Dreamweaver for Linux (ubuntu) - I know of the following OOWeb, NVU, Quanta Plus, Screem, Bluefish, Amaya - one of these or something else?  I have a lot of coding (html/php) done in Dreamweaver for Windows.
[07:12] <bafoc> shafto: dpkg -i "package name"
[07:12] <lnx^> damg: yeah but my laptop is only on when i use it so i can't use cron really
[07:12] <jsuther> name: I've seen a few case where older cdrom drives (like pre 2000) have trouble reading and booting CD-Rs
[07:12] <l90bpm> I've been dying to ask someone is dreamweaver tard friendly?
[07:12] <secion8> I am using ati radeon 200m, Is there any way to get resolutions higher than 1024X768
[07:12] <mage___> lnx^: thanks for reminding me of my question
[07:12] <Pollywog|away> define tard
[07:12] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, I'm not sure
[07:12] <l90bpm> meaning, will I be able to use it?
[07:12] <bafoc> meme-1: I would highly recommened doing some searchs on google....
[07:12] <l90bpm> lol
[07:12] <lnx^> mage___: no problem for nothing
[07:12] <mage___> lnx^: also, try anacron
[07:12] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: and also, as I recall, the other protocol (not pptp) is not as mature in linux and takes more effort to install, and leads you down the ipsec path, because this is what software like openswan is based on.
[07:13] <name> mage__ : the check actually crashes
[07:13] <rickyfingers> VXWorks, hold on, let me look at my windows box...
[07:13] <meme-1> no web coders here?
[07:13] <lnx^> mage___: oh gee! i forgot about it completely..
[07:13] <mage___> my question is why does cron keep trying to start anacron? it looks like they'll try to run the same daily/weekly scripts
[07:13] <meme-1> Can someone suggest a channel where web developers hang out?
[07:13] <lnx^> mage___: even though there's still a problem, i might not be at home when my laptop tries to take backups
[07:14] <l90bpm> is dreamweaver fairly easy to use?
[07:14] <lnx^> mage___: but i suppose i can make a check for that with simple bash
[07:14] <damg> lnx^: google told me http://www.roaringpenguin.com/penguin/openSourceProducts/remind
[07:14] <kitche> meme-1: depedns what language you use
[07:14] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: yes, I see now, in windows, you have automatic, pptp, or L2TP ipsec VPN protocols available to connect to a vpn
[07:14] <mage___> name: well then theres your problem, dont have any cd-rs?
[07:14] <meme-1> a mix of html / php
[07:14] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, okey
[07:14] <l90bpm> I have a free copy that came with a pc I bought (used) their mistake..
[07:14] <bafoc> meme-1: try Eclipse...
[07:15] <kitche> meme-1: #html and #php there is no channel for web developing though
[07:15] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: the thing is (in my opinion) there's more than one way to implement a vpn....let's say you want to use ipsec.
[07:15] <meme-1> well I pretty much use whatever a client needs.
[07:15] <loca|host> why did the wiki disappeared on the new ubuntu's site ? :(
[07:15] <mage___> lnx^: depending on how you want to check, could be simple or complicated ;)
[07:15] <meme-1> thx folks
[07:15] <bafoc> np
[07:15] <meme-1> not familiar with eclipse... will look into that one.
[07:15] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: and when you're asking is linux ipsec compatible with windows ipsec, and lets call it ubuntu ipsec so we stay on topic, here
[07:15] <lnx^> mage___: so how exactly does anacron work? does it run the command whenever i power up my laptop or?
[07:15] <Slart> are there any mirrors for ubuntu packages? can I select it by country? or is there a list online I can use?
[07:15] <kitche> meme-1: eclipse is a java IDE it can bew used for other things as well
[07:16] <mage___> lnx^: I uh, dont know exactly, but it has concepts like daily and weekly
[07:16] <damg> loca|host: wiki.ubuntu.com still works for me, did a link use to exist on the mainpage? :)
[07:16] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: what we really need to know is, is there a way to get ubuntu to speak the windows L2TP IPSec VPN protocol?
[07:17] <mage___> lnx^: with cron you're specifying exact times for operations to occur
[07:17] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, ok
[07:17] <loca|host> damg, saw that, but why did ubuntu disabled the wiki on the site ?
[07:17] <rickyfingers> VXWorks:  I take your ok to mean that my interpretation of your question is correct.
[07:17] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, did u try ipsec-tools, right?
[07:17] <Ash-Fox> For those of you who are having problems with Wine's official repository for edgy (the new package technically shouldn't install because of bad dependencies). I have fixed the package myself and uploaded it to my own repository, you can add my repository via: sudo bash -c 'echo deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/ >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:17] <lnx^> mage___: yeah, got that. i suppose i'll just do some research on my own, but thanks a lot :)
[07:18] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: so now I'm going to google about the windows L2TP IPSec VPN protocol and see what I get
[07:18] <bacho> can i install wine with automatix??
[07:18] <bacho> with no problems?
[07:18] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: it was about 6 months ago, but yes, I think I did install ipsec-tools...the man pages were very intimidating, and the front ends like openswan were not very encouraging either.
[07:18] <Ash-Fox> !automatix
[07:18] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:18] <froydinn> you guys know any other location for wget http://ubuntu.compiz.net/quinn.key.asc
[07:18] <mage___> whats automatrix?
[07:19] <lnx^> mage___: oh yeah and i forgot there's another problem, my backup partition is encrypted behind a pw which i need to enter each time i want to make a backup
[07:19] <mage___> oh, riiiight
[07:19] <foutrelis> UUser: Are you still there?
[07:19] <UUser> foutrelis, yeah
[07:19] <damg> loca|host: they just reorganized it
[07:19] <foutrelis> UUser: Try setterm -blength 0
[07:19] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: but finding someone else who's interested in this esoteric, but apparently very useful tech. is encouraging.
[07:19] <damg> the wiki is now in the community support category
[07:19] <foutrelis> UUser: I think it works ^.^
[07:19] <sdac221x_> hi,  sometimes when i log out, it proceeds to close things then screen turns gray and nothing happens.  If i restart x with ctrl-alt-backsp i just end up with a black screen.  Any ideas what problem is ?  (xubuntu edgy)
[07:19] <Pollywog> mage__ it is a script that installs software but don't use it, use apt or some of the other tools for that purpose
[07:19] <UUser> foutrelis, i think it too
[07:19] <mage___> lnx^: so you have it encrypted on the server but not the laptop?
[07:19] <UUser> foutrelis, i will try
[07:19] <UUser> fools, i just cant do it right now....but tnx a lot dud
[07:19] <brakkvatn> <3 ubuntu
[07:20] <Desmaano> so if i boot from a Live CD i can change my login name and password ?
[07:20] <bluefox83> ok, this sucks..i can't get emerald to work for me, i have no window decorators for beryl at all...
[07:20] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: good news, google result number one for the search L2TP IPSec VPN protocol is the openswan home page.
[07:20] <rickyfingers> !register
[07:20] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:21] <lnx^> mage___: yeah, i use encfs over nfs. the backups are encrypted, and to use that encrypted fs i need to enter a pw
[07:21] <mage___> Desmaano: password, easily, username you'd need to do some more
[07:21] <Hyper-cool> i am a recent windows migrant and i'm wondering why everything in gnome is so BIG looking? i'm at the same resolution that i was at before (maxed out). Can i make things draw smaller? i feel like i've lost a lot of desktop space
[07:21] <dougie> how do you change the default playback program for lets say mp3 files? when i right click and go to properties and select the one i want or right click and go to open with thats just for that one time
[07:21] <mzanfardino> question: if I have an unbootable ubuntu server, is there a "rescue disk" or it's equivelant that I can boot to that will help me ascertain the source of the problem and resolution?!?
[07:22] <mage___> mzanfardino: wheres it fuck up?
[07:22] <Pollywog|away> please watch the lanugage
[07:22] <bluefox83> Hyper-cool, usually a high resolution means small icons and stuff...
[07:22] <rene-> hello
[07:22] <Desmaano> mage: if i can find my username it would be enough, is that possible ?
[07:23] <mzanfardino> mage___: I've a RAID5 array that fails to find a boot disk.  I've been playing with the array, but the tech people who provided it suggested I boot to a linux equivelant of a "rescue disk".  I was unaware that such a thing existed with linux.
[07:23] <mage___> Pollywog: sorry, gotta regularly use every english word ;)
[07:23] <rene-> how i come i get  $ glxinfo | grep render
[07:23] <rene-> direct rendering: Yes but cant make the 3d x screensavers work on edgy eft?
[07:23] <Hyper-cool> bluefox83, i'm at the same resolution i was at in windows but everything is bigger here. also things look stretched horizontally...
[07:23] <CharlieChester> I need help with my wireless. My Thinkpad is reporting both eth1 and wifi0 as viable wireless interfaces. Why? And what must I do to get it recognising only wifi0? is this normal?
[07:23] <bluefox83> ok, i'm going to bed (working third shift has some serious drawbacks...)
[07:23] <mage___> mzanfardino: well, any old livecd counts as a rescue disk
[07:24] <bluefox83> Hyper-cool, i dunno...stick around ehre and someone is bound to have an answer for you
[07:24] <bluefox83> *here
[07:24] <bafoc> rene-: what graphics card are you using?
[07:24] <Hyper-cool> thx
[07:24] <mzanfardino> mage___: but once I boot to a live CD, what then?  Are their utilities that could help me deterine if there is a problem with my MBR or some such thing?
[07:24] <Zampaktu> hi, i am using edgy, this morning when i turn on my machine, i did not find all the files that were on my desktop. how can i recover them?
[07:24] <mage___> hardware raid?
[07:25] <mzanfardino> mage___: yes
[07:25] <rene-> fglrxinfo says i have a generic card but fireglcontrol properly reports it as an ati 1300 256 mb
[07:25] <mzanfardino> mage___: the vendor is a git.
[07:25] <rene-> fglrxinfo says ati generic
[07:25] <mage___> they usually are
[07:25] <mage___> heh i really need to stop using the nick mage
[07:25] <mzanfardino> mage___: no help at all at this point, so if I can get this up and running without waiting for them to dain to send someone, all the better.
[07:25] <bafoc> rene-: so you installed the ATI drivers from the apt-get repos?
[07:25] <rene-> i did not
[07:25] <rene-> well
[07:25] <rene-> i might
[07:26] <rene-> i have been trying to follow tutorials to get beryl
[07:26] <bafoc> rene-: so you have the stock drivers that comes with ubuntu?
[07:26] <rene-> but cant even get xglgears to run
[07:26] <mzanfardino> mage___: so I'm going to boot to a live cd... then what?
[07:26] <zweiundzwei> hello, i need help with my screen resolution, too. when i used dapper everything worked fine and i never had to change any settings, but since i've been using edgy everything is either really slow (choppy scrolling etc) or, using the nvidia driver, the screen resolution is too small.
[07:26] <dougie> how do you change the default playback program for lets say mp3 files? when i right click and go to properties and select the one i want or right click and go to open with thats just for that one time
[07:26] <rene-> i installed fglx
[07:26] <mage___> mzanfardino: i personally know nothing of hardware raid, probably see if its assembling the array correctly, then try to mount it
[07:26] <rene-> tru apt-get
[07:27] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: if you're still paying attention, you can install openswan with synaptic, and you can use openswan to talk to a windows box over a vpn using L2TP IPSec VPN protocol.
[07:27] <bafoc> rene-: yeah, beryl and ATI... here's a link to check out.   http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[07:27] <bob0908> has anyone configured the out-of-the-box sendmail to send to external addresses?
[07:27] <bob0908> or is any configuration necessary?
[07:27] <ant__> dougie : system > preferences > preffered apps i think
[07:27] <bob0908> my email seems to be disappearing
[07:27] <bob0908> (with no error)
[07:27] <Nalleman> Hi, I would like to find a random folder somewhere in my file system. How should i write in the terminal ?
[07:27] <bafoc> rene-: I tried beryl with an ATI X300, and X600 PCIX and man it sucked... so I switched to an Nvidia 7800 and wow
[07:27] <Zampaktu> Does somebody know of a way to recover(un-delete?) my files? they were mistireously deleted from the Desktop folder. my home directory is intact. thanks
[07:27] <mage___> you might need raid drivers as I've read most hardware raid is fake (really its done in software) and so you'd need to get some driver for that
[07:27] <Desmaano> mage____: can i retrieve my username with the livecd ?
[07:27] <dougie> ant_ that only has stuff for your internet apps and your system apps like your default window manager
[07:28] <ant__> dougie : sorry, i tried
[07:28] <bafoc> rene-: Nvidia cards have much better support under linux than ATI
[07:28] <dougie> ant_ actually under system is your default terminal emulator
[07:28] <Pollywog> I have an nvidia 7600 maybe I should try Beryl, are there screenshots somewhere?
[07:28] <cronius> I was wondering if anybody knows how to write a partitiontable that the kernel has in memory back to the disk (..that has had its partitiontable overwritten, obviously)?
[07:28] <mage___> Desmaano: just look at the /etc/password file
[07:29] <Kronuz> hello
[07:29] <Desmaano> ok thx, i'll give it a try :)
[07:29] <bob0908> is there a better place to ask sendmail-related questions?
[07:29] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, great
[07:29] <bob0908> (a better irc room?)
[07:29] <Zampaktu> Pollywog: go to youtube and search for beryl, some great videos in there
[07:29] <Pollywog> Zampaktu: tnx
[07:29] <mage___> bob0908: for some reason "ask your god" just popped up in my head
[07:29] <mage___> hehehehehehe
[07:29] <mbac> ...
[07:30] <_Jaak_> whats wrong with the wine 0.9.33 dependencie tree? can't update
[07:30] <bob0908> mage___: my god said sendmail is too complicated
[07:30] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: but it looks like it's not a simple thing to do...like it requires some work at the terminal, and stuff like that.
[07:30] <Kronuz> hey, I have this few questions... first, is there a way to tell gnome not to load the same app twice, but rather bring it to front when it's already open (like for instance the calculator)
[07:30] <bob0908> mage___: he said he is omnicient and everything but sendmail is rediculous :)
[07:30] <_Jaak_> Something to do with libgphoto2-2 (>=2.3.0)
[07:30] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, no problem
[07:30] <CharlieChester> anyone can help with wireless on a thinkpad?
[07:30] <Kronuz> (to make certain apps single-instance)
[07:31] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, do u have any how-to to use ipsec-tools ?
[07:31] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: here's the link for openswan: http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/openswan-l2tp.html
[07:31] <mage___> bob0908: i'd suggest going in to a room like debian or slackware, ubuntu is more desktoppy
[07:31] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: no, I really don't have much experience with ipsec-tools.  I think I downloaded the package, started reading through the man pages, and I was like JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ
[07:32] <kantlivelong> anyone know if the ENX-15 TV Tuner works on linux?
[07:32] <mage___> kantlivelong: what does google say?
[07:32] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, yap, I can figure this out
[07:32] <kantlivelong> mage__: not finding much..
[07:32] <Kronuz> other questions is... my keyboard has a log off key, but it isn't working (I already tried Keyboard shortcuts, but it doesn't "detect" the keypress) the other special keys in my keyboard do work, like the calculator, the sleep, the volume buttons, etc.
[07:32] <bafoc> bob0908: I'd switch to postfix ( much easier to setup and maintain)
[07:32] <VXWorks> rickyfingers, ok, thanks for helping me with this staff
[07:32] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: so I found some tutorials and stuff, but then I was like..."I think this stuff is a little outside the IQ bracket for just a hobby"
[07:32] <mage___> kantlivelong: probably not then, lots of people have a habit of putting instructions for such things in thier blogs
[07:33] <Nalleman> Hi all, I would like to find a random folder somewhere in my file system. How should I write in the terminal to find ?
[07:33] <rickyfingers> VXWorks: no problem
[07:33] <kantlivelong> mage___: awww
[07:33] <rickyfingers> Nalleman: sudo  find / -name "file-name-your-looking-for"
[07:33] <mage___> Nalleman: actually random? you must be trying to be a bofh ;)
[07:34] <rickyfingers> Nalleman: actually sudo find / -name *"file-name-you're-looking-for"*
[07:34] <Nalleman> mage__, a what?
[07:34] <Desmaano> mage___: I opened the file etc/passwd, where can i find my username ?
[07:34] <rickyfingers> surrounding the file name by *'s will find any files that have that file name as a sub-string
[07:34] <Nalleman> rickyfingers, thank you
[07:34] <eeos> how do you ask apt-get to install also recommended and suggested packages when you install a package?
[07:35] <milanm> hey guys, most other linux distros let me hit tab and autocomplete the host name IF it's in /etc/hosts. Can I get the same behaviour on Ubuntu as well? (Note: Tried the bash_completion, but that's not what I want).
[07:35] <rickyfingers> shoot sorry about that folks, I didn't mean to end my last post with a spamming like that.
[07:35] <l90bpm> beryl is up and running smoothly..  any tweaks? or suggestions?
[07:35] <mage___> kantlivelong: what sort of hardware is it? builtin? pci? usb?
[07:35] <rickyfingers> Nalleman, no problem, that was one command that I could never seem to get right until I memorized it.
[07:35] <kantlivelong> mage___: pci
[07:35] <kantlivelong> mage___: came out of a vaio
[07:35] <mage___> Desmaano: did you steal someones ubuntu box?
[07:36] <rickyfingers> Nalleman: as an exercise, extend what I just told you to search through every file in the file system to find a string inside the file...
[07:36] <mage___> kantlivelong: could try to google the pci id, lspci to get it
[07:36] <rickyfingers> Nalleman: (hint: grep, xargs)
[07:36] <Desmaano> no but a while ago i set up a server, and the sticky paper was fallen of with the username and stuff :P
[07:36] <kantlivelong> mage___: ight i g2g tho. thx :)
[07:36] <mage___> Desmaano: hahaha, well you should recognize it anyways, its at the bottom, or real close
[07:37] <bafoc> l90bpm: google search - http://www.google.com/search?q=beryl+tweaks&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[07:37] <j-b> hello
[07:37] <Desmaano> ok, an d how do i set a new password ?:P
[07:37] <mzanfardino> mage___: ok, thanks.  This is a true SCSI hardware array.  I'm attempting to rebuild the array after having reseated the offending drive.  I'm not convinced this will resolve anything, but only time will tell as the array is rebuilding itself and taking it's sweet time.
[07:37] <j-b> is there a ubuntu-devel chan or something ?
[07:38] <l90bpm> will do
[07:38] <jrib> j-b: what do you want to talk about?
[07:38] <Pici> j-b: #ubuntu-dev I beleive
[07:38] <j-b> jrib: I found
[07:38] <Xif> Hi. I'm trying to use BitTorrent, but it can't connect to the tracker and my guess is that the firewall blocks it.
[07:38] <j-b> jrib: a big bug in a package
[07:38] <Xif> How do I fix that?
[07:39] <milanm> hey guys, most other linux distros let me hit tab and autocomplete the host name IF it's in /etc/hosts. Can I get the same behaviour on Ubuntu as well? (Note: Tried the bash_completion, but that's not what I want).
[07:39] <Pollywog> I take it Beryl is not in Ubuntu repositories
[07:39] <eeos> how do you ask apt-get to install also recommended and suggested packages when you install a package?
[07:39] <l90bpm> it's not that hard to install pollywog
[07:40] <froydinn> yah im going to edgy
[07:40] <l90bpm> i will help
[07:40] <lnx^> does anyone know/use 'zenity'?
[07:40] <Pici> lnx^: try the man page `man zenity`
[07:40] <Pollywog> l90bpm: is there a howto?
[07:40] <l90bpm> I'm a n00b and I did it w/ total ease
[07:40] <ardchoille> lnx^: I use zenity a lot
[07:40] <froydinn> so edgy already comes with the xgl or aixgl?
[07:40] <lnx^> ardchoille: do you happen to know if it's possible to show dialogues from cron?
[07:41] <Hyper-cool> how do i get rid of the "failure to initialize HAL" error?
[07:41] <ardchoille> lnx^: Yes, it is.. hold on and I'll get you an example
[07:41] <l90bpm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[07:41] <lnx^> ardchoille: thanks :) couldn't find one anywhere
[07:41] <Asl[a] n> are there any vfat specific disk recovery software for linux?
[07:41] <Pollywog> I saw the videos on youtube and I remember I saw something like it at 2006 Desktop Linux Summit
[07:41] <bafoc> Pollywob: yes, google - ubuntu and berly
[07:41] <Asl[a] n> can it be done using fsck?
[07:42] <IgorSobreira> how can i connect to wifi here in ubuntu?? i've installed the wifi-radar but it says there is no wireless extensions...
[07:42] <l90bpm> XGL
[07:42] <Pollywog> bafoc, l90bpm thanks
[07:42] <bafoc> oops sorry Pollywog
[07:42] <ardchoille> lnx^: The problem you are experiencing is that cron doesn't know which display to use when launching zenity, so you need to tell cron which one to use.
[07:42] <bafoc> np...
[07:42] <ardchoille> lnx^: Here is an example of how to use zenity from a cronjob: env DISPLAY=:0. zenity --info --title="Test" --text="This is a test."
[07:43] <mage___> mzanfardino: thats odd, the contents of the array should be available while rebuilding, at least thats how software raid is
[07:43] <Hyper-cool> how do i get rid of the "failure to initialize HAL" error?
[07:43] <craigbass1976> anyone using noteedit to score music?  I can't print, and even printing to a pdf file gives me a blank page
[07:44] <l90bpm> Pollywog, let me suggest not having it set to high contrast (like I did) or it may take you a minute to find the x to close windows..  lol.  they moved them around
[07:44] <Dhanjel> Anyone else having problems connecting to msn? Tried amsn and gaim with no success.
[07:45] <predaeus> Dhanjel, I had problems yesterday but currently I am online in gaim.
[07:45] <Dhanjel> preaction, ok
[07:45] <Pollywog> l90bpm: the howto mentions breakage in big red letters
[07:45] <dougie> is there a firewall built into ubuntu?
[07:46] <predaeus> dougie, there is one build into the linux kernel. so yes.
[07:46] <Dame> dougie, iptables?
[07:46] <sacater> what bluetooth software is best?
[07:46] <Dame> !iptables
[07:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:46] <craigbass1976> dougie, yes.  Iptables.  Good luck finding the file though, you'll have to write regular rules with the iptables command
[07:46] <dougie> .....great
[07:46] <lnx^> ardchoille: in tty0 i get: xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server, no protocol specified
[07:46] <l90bpm> yeah, I'm not going to promise your set up will act like mine.. these guys here can tell you all about it
[07:46] <dougie> how would i add applications to allow through on it?
[07:46] <Pollywog> I would say it is included but not "built-in" as it is with Linspire
[07:47] <sacater> what bluetooth is best for me, i have a PDA with bluetooth, and a usb adaptor, my pda can do email, web, ssh and ping through this connection, what bluetooth software should i use????
[07:47] <Pollywog> a firewall that is
[07:47] <l90bpm> this is just a mid end machine
[07:47] <Desmaano> !password
[07:47] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[07:47] <ardchoille> lnx^: You're not going to be able to use zenity in anything other than the desktop unless you enable kernel framebuffer and have the apps that support it.
[07:47] <Desmaano> !sudo
[07:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:48] <mzanfardino> mage___: I agree, it's very odd.  I'm no fan of this solution nor the vendor, who takes no responsability for it (go figure).  I, however, am not the IT guy responsible: I'm simply a programming attempting to get my work done without a critical server.
[07:48] <Pollywog> l90bpm: ty
[07:48] <lnx^> ardchoille: what about in crontab? or isn't running it in tty0 similar to running it from crontab?
[07:48] <Gecko> Hey there. I am running Edgy, and I have a problem getting dead keys to work. In the gnome keyboard option, I have selected Denmark (as I am using a Danish keyboard), and I have not selected the no dead keys option. In xorg.conf, I have dk as XkbLayout, and lv3:ralt_switch as XkbOptions. Can anyone help?
[07:48] <Desmaano> thank god i have my username and password again :)
[07:48] <l90bpm> heres the specs on the machine I'm running it on  nothing fancy..  512ram.   amd sempron 2.0gig processor w/ a nvidia fx 5500
[07:48] <alcatel> hi Please i use Konversation on Kubuntu 6.10 i want talk in arabic with my frind i can't
[07:48] <Kronuz> hey, hos should I install a .deb package? (it's ubuntu's but it has the .deb extension)
[07:48] <dougie> what would a user defined chain be?
[07:48] <lnx^> ardchoille: i indeed want the dialog to appear in my X/gnome
[07:49] <dougie> is that what i need to use for the application? lol
[07:49] <Gecko> Kronuz: dpkg -i packagename
[07:49] <milanm> hey guys, most other linux distros let me hit tab and autocomplete the host name IF it's in /etc/hosts. Can I get the same behaviour on Ubuntu as well? (Note: Tried the bash_completion, but that's not what I want).
[07:49] <Kronuz> Gecko, thanks :)
[07:49] <ardchoille> lnx^: You can't run gui's in anyting but the desktop unless you enable kernel framebuffer and have the apps that support it. The reason gui's can run from cron in the dekstop is because the desktop supports gui's
[07:49] <alcatel> hello
[07:49] <alcatel> hot can i talk in arabic in the Konversation
[07:49] <l90bpm> can't wait to get it on the notebook..
[07:50] <ardchoille> lnx^: Run that command I gave you from a cronjob and you will see it pops up on the desktop
[07:50] <Desmaano> what's good vnc software for Ubuntu? and can be controlled from a windows system ??
[07:50] <lnx^> ardchoille: ok. does it also work with anacron?
[07:50] <sisplau_> where's mark?
[07:50] <ardchoille> lnx^: I don't know, never used anacron
[07:50] <mdales_> I'm want to download Herd 5, but I'm being prompted for a admin.ubuntu.com id/password - is this normal?
[07:51] <predaeus> dougie, I think you need to find out what ports and protocols your application uses and probably use a frontend like Firestarter to setup iptables (or set it by commands yourself). But in a plain Ubuntu install, all applications should be able to access the web freely, as no iptables rules are set, as far as I know.
[07:51] <PirateHead> If I run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", will it automatically add the KDE session info to the login manager?
[07:51] <crdlb> PirateHead, yes
[07:51] <PirateHead> sweet
[07:51] <PirateHead> couldn't be any easier =D
[07:52] <Kronuz> hey, what's a good graphical ftp/sftp client?
[07:52] <Kronuz> also, I was wondering, does anyone know how can I make a connection to a remote X thru ssh?
[07:52] <sheri_rao> Kronuz: gftp is graphical
[07:52] <Kronuz> sheri_rao, does that one also support sftp?
[07:52] <sheri_rao> /q
[07:52] <kghunt> Good evening. I wonder if some1 can help im trying to dual boot after installing vista?
[07:52] <prospero31>  remote X though ssh : pass it the -X flag
[07:53] <prospero31> ssh -X host
[07:53] <prospero31> then you can run x apps
[07:53] <sheri_rao> yes it support
[07:53] <dougie> if i install shorewall will it overwrite the iptables? or is it possible to even disable iptables?
[07:53] <Kronuz> sheri_rao, thanks :)
[07:54] <kghunt> can any1 help me dual boot after installing vista?
[07:54] <Kronuz> now, is it possible to make the taskbar not to show the tooltips when I hover the mouse over the apps' tabs?
[07:55] <upd> hi.
[07:56] <ardchoille> Kronuz: Open gconf-editor and have a look at /apps/panel/global/tooltips_enabled
[07:56] <slavik> X session dies ... more than once ...
[07:56] <Netham45> is the restricted repository slow for everyone?
[07:56] <upd> i have some problams with program recordmydektop  if im listening to the song it write An error occured while reading from soundcard/dev/dsp
[07:56] <upd> Error description:
[07:56] <upd> Input/output error
[07:56] <slavik> upd: lookup aoss and alsa-oss
[07:56] <slavik> !aoss
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <Kronuz> ardchoille, thanks :)
[07:57] <ardchoille> Kronuz: You're welcome :)
[07:57] <slavik> !info alsa-oss
[07:57] <ubotu> alsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11-1 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[07:57] <upd> what is that
[07:57] <killaz> hello I have a GeForce2 MX/MX v-card. Should I use the nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy?
[07:57] <slavik> that's why I said look it up :)
[07:57] <Netham45> !info nvidia-glx
[07:57] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.2 (edgy), package size 3971 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[07:58] <Kronuz> ardchoille, hey, do you use rhythmbox?
[07:58] <waxyfresh> anybody know of a torrent for a FPS or adventure/etc game that will work with wine?
[07:58] <bafoc> killaz: I would recommend downloading the drivers from Nvidia's site..
[07:58] <ardchoille> Kronuz: No
[07:58] <killaz> bafoc: why?
[07:58] <Netham45> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:58] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.17.7-11.2 (edgy), package size 2998 kB, installed size 9832 kB
[07:59] <bafoc> killaz: everything worked for me when I used those compaired to the glx ones from the repo
[07:59] <Kronuz> ardchoille, :( I was hoping you knew why my global keys weren't working (next, previous, etc.)
[07:59] <kghunt> how do i reinstall grub after installing vista?
[07:59] <killaz> Netham45: I already knew that nvidia-glx-legacy exists, so why that info?
[07:59] <killaz> Netham oh ok...
[07:59] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[07:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:59] <TheGateKeeper> kghunt:
[07:59] <Netham45> killaz: I am working on getting my card to work. :)
[07:59] <StoneNewt> anyone care to explain to me why the instructions on the ubuntu geek site on enabling wpa access don't work on edgy but do work on Dapper?
[08:00] <kghunt> cheers
[08:00] <killaz> bafoc: but what was the procedure? is that explained on the nvidia site?
[08:00] <StoneNewt> on edgy the network manager just sits there waiting for the network key :(
[08:00] <bafoc> StoneNewt: I have WPA working on a Dell D620... just finished installing it...works great
[08:00] <Netham45> StoneNewt: try WIFI-Radar
[08:00] <Netham45> !info wifi-radar
[08:01] <ubotu> wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB
[08:01] <amorphous_> hey! is there no flowchart apps in ubuntu repos?
[08:01] <Mooi_> Hello, how does one upgrade from Debian Etch to Ubuntu (whatever the latest, unstable version is)?
[08:01] <bafoc> StoneNewt: did you enable the unverise and restricted repo's in edgy? did you install the NetworkManager, and Network-Manager-PPTP?
[08:01] <amorphous_> I can't find any
[08:01] <amorphous_> !
[08:01] <Kronuz> ardchoille, do I have to restart gnome for the changes to take effect? (changes to the panel in gconf-editor)
[08:01] <Bsims> !info streamripper
[08:01] <ubotu> streamripper: download online streams into audio files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.61.25-2 (edgy), package size 68 kB, installed size 188 kB
[08:01] <LjL> Pollywog|away, eew
[08:01] <lnx^> ardchoille: it doesn't seem to pop up from root's cronjobs
[08:01] <LjL> !away > Pollywog|away    (Pollywog|away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[08:01] <StoneNewt> bafoc: I followed these instructions - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu.html
[08:01] <killaz> bafoc: just follow the instructions on the nvidia site>
[08:01] <Shani> hi friends
[08:01] <amorphous_> am very surprised (or am I just past the times & theres something better than the old flowcharts nowadays???
[08:02] <ardchoille> Kronuz: You can just do: killall gnome-panel   <-- it will respawn. But, if you're using an app with a task tray icon, that app will die.
[08:02] <Bsims> Mooi_: I think ya have to do a fresh install
[08:02] <Pollywog|away> oops I need to fix my client
[08:02] <Mooi_> Bsims: I asked how to, I didn't ask for an alternative
[08:02] <Pollywog|away> I did not realize I was sending public away messages
[08:02] <Pollywog|away> LjL thanks
[08:02] <lnx^> ardchoille: only works for the same user as is logged in for gnome. any way through that?
[08:02] <mikeconcepts2> how do I search for a file
[08:02] <Bsims> Mooi_: ya might get away with just changing /etc/apt/sources.list but I'd not trust it
[08:02] <bafoc> StoneNewt: yeah, I would undo that, and install the 2 packages I just mentioned above... works like a charm.. ( 5 installs so far, no issues )
[08:02] <enneth> Every time I boot my system X fails to start. It says that the kernel whatever is nvidia 71xx but I've installed 9755, so on every boot I have to reinstall the 9755 driver. Does anyone know what can cause this problem?
[08:03] <mikeconcepts2> using edgy, how do I search for a file
[08:03] <Mooi_> Bsims: yes, what repos should I do there?
[08:03] <Kronuz> ardchoille, :( for some reason the tooltips are still there
[08:03] <dyrne> mikeconcepts2: locate filename  but bear in mind the locate db needs to be updated by sudo locate -u   if its a new file
[08:03] <stoone> i have a problem with usb: i can't acces my camera woth my normal user only by root, my user is in the plugdev group and also my /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules seems ok. it used to work and i didn't changed anything but upgraded some packages during the past several weeks.
[08:03] <StoneNewt> bafoc: undo all of the changes?
[08:03] <rickyfingers> mikeconcepts2: I just looked over my applications to see if there was a utitlity there
[08:03] <mikeconcepts2> dyrne, is there a gui for this?
[08:03] <mzanfardino> enneth: you need to compile/build the new nvidia driver into the kernel.  give me a sec and I will see if I can find you a link to an excellent source I found when I was running into the same issue.
[08:04] <Bsims> Mooi_: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[08:04] <rickyfingers> mikeconcepts2: but the only way I know is to use the terminal
[08:04] <Mooi_> I'd like to get Fiesty installed, can anybody pastebin their /etc/apt/sources.list contents?
[08:04] <dyrne> mikeconcepts2: you can install beagle  ive never used it before but heard good things
[08:04] <Shani> I m using Ubuntu Since Nov.2006 nad i need help how i can forward incoming request from internet on my ubuntu server to my cs dedicated server on lan
[08:04] <enneth> mzanfardino, thanks a lot
[08:04] <brakkvatn> Has anybody here used gnomoradio?
[08:04] <bafoc> StoneNewt: well, you could try installing the 2 packages above.. but i'm not sure what may/may not happen.. after that
[08:04] <rickyfingers> mikeconcepts2: look under places!!!!
[08:04] <IdleOne> !upgrade | Mooi_
[08:04] <ubotu> Mooi_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:04] <Mooi_> yes, thanks Bsims
[08:04] <Mooi_> thx IdleOne
[08:04] <IdleOne> no problem
[08:04] <mikeconcepts2> there is search button in nautilas, but it doesn't find anything
[08:05] <upd> hm
[08:05] <Shani> IdleOne : Can u HELP ME
[08:05] <rickyfingers> mikeconcepts2: there's a "search for files" icon right there
[08:05] <Hyper-cool> is there a way to update HAL from the web and not the CD that i installed from
[08:05] <Hyper-cool> using synaptic of something?
[08:05] <IdleOne> Shani,  I dont know . maybe what is the issue
[08:05] <mzanfardino> enneth: np. give me a moment
[08:05] <ardchoille> Kronuz: Well, I guess that gconf key doesn't do what it says it does.
[08:05] <Shani> IdleOne : I m using Ubuntu Since Nov.2006 nad i need help how i can forward incoming request from internet on my ubuntu server to my cs dedicated server on lan
[08:05] <IdleOne> !repos | Hyper-cool enable universe and multiverse
[08:05] <ubotu> Hyper-cool enable universe and multiverse: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:05] <ardchoille> lnx^: I don't know, I never run anything as root user via cron.
[08:06] <amorphous_> that a 'no' on the flowchart software then? if so - can anyone recommend any - the only 'free' sofware for it seems to be smartdraw - anyone else recommend anything, or is that about the limit of it..?
[08:06] <Hyper-cool> thx
[08:06] <IdleOne> Shani, I have no idea how to do that
[08:06] <Kronuz> ardchoille, yeah :(
[08:06] <mikeconcepts2> starting to understand, gui searchs only search /home
[08:06] <Bsims> amorphous_: Hrm I can't think of the name but I have seen one flowchart software
[08:06] <Shani> :( any one else can help me with lan issues ?
[08:06] <mikeconcepts2> what if I want to search the whole filesystem
[08:06] <bafoc> amorphous: - google search - http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Flowchart.html
[08:06] <Bsims> amorphous_: Dia
[08:07] <IdleOne> Shani, I think what you want to do is port forwarding to a specific IP . that would be done in router settings
[08:07] <foxbat> sudo find / -name (name of file)
[08:07] <Pollywog> LjL: I fixed it
[08:07] <Bsims> !info dia
[08:07] <foxbat> file name takes wildcards
[08:07] <Pollywog> ty
[08:07] <shafto> I need a good peiece of video editing software that allows for various clips to be linked etc with transistions anyone suggest out?
[08:07] <ubotu> dia: Diagram editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95.0-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 528 kB
[08:07] <stoone> Shani: http://www.hackorama.com/network/portfwd.shtml
[08:07] <Shani> IdleOne : i m using dsl modem that dont have any settings page , it is always on
[08:08] <amorphous_> Bsims, thanks ;)
[08:08] <Shani> thanx stone
[08:08] <blizzkid> lo all, I have a problem getting wlan to work, I tried both the ndiswrapper way, and the intel driver for linux, but when I try to load the linux driver, I get "ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection" --> That makes me suspect it`s not the right card, but lspci doesn`t tell me much more. Can anyone help me getting the wlan to work? My GF really needs that to work.
[08:08] <bafoc> shafto: Kino didn't work?
[08:08] <Bsims> amorphous_: Not a problem, I used dia once, shows how often I need it
[08:08] <albert__> hi, my beryl is slowing down my scrolling speed heavily...i searched in google, but i didn't find a solution
[08:08] <mikeconcepts2> foxbat, find versus locate?
[08:08] <amorphous_> Bsims, are flowcharts not used any more? or are they all done pen&paper?
[08:08] <LjL> Pollywog: cool, keep in mind also that /away will let people know you're away through a simple /whois, if they want to know
[08:08] <shafto> bafoc, Cant even figure out how to import more than one movie  clip
[08:08] <IdleOne> albert, #ubuntu-effects
[08:08] <Pollywog> LjL: yes I set it up that way
[08:08] <stoone> !portforward|Shani
[08:08] <Bsims> amorphous_: Rare, but dia does do the normal flowchart things
[08:08] <ubotu> Shani: For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[08:08] <foxbat> locate works too
[08:09] <IdleOne> albert__, , #ubuntu-effects
[08:09] <foxbat> if you have it installed
[08:09] <albert> IdleOne, ?
[08:09] <amorphous_> Bsims, my simple, clumsy mind needs something to hold it together, methinks... I'm just going round in circles trying to get simple tasks done :/
[08:09] <IdleOne> albert, sorry wasnt meant for you
[08:09] <rickyfingers> amorphous_: don't know if this has been mentioned, but what about using open office presentation to draw the  flow chart
[08:09] <foxbat> its quicker but it has to buld a database first time around
[08:09] <bafoc> shafto: try this - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7779
[08:09] <albert> ouch, oks :( xD
[08:09] <amorphous_> Bsims, greenbar paper????
[08:09] <foxbat> and a cron job is needed to keep it up to date
[08:09] <mikeconcepts2> foxbat, thanks, and thanks to everyone else, I have learned a lot
[08:09] <foxbat> ubuntu may do all that by default
[08:10] <Bsims> amorphous_: http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/
[08:10] <mzanfardino> enneth: sadly, I printed out the documents I used and now I can't locate the site.  Give me a few more minutes and I'll see if I can't find it again.  The key here is that A) you will be building the driver into the kernel (I think that verbage is correct) and B) you will have to do it again and again as you upgrade your kernel, so keep the instructions close at hand
[08:10] <youkilldkennedy> Is there an update for evolution? My calendar is an hour behind...
[08:10] <Bsims> amorphous_: the huge paper used in oldfashoned computer labs
[08:10] <StoneNewt> bafoc: I'm still getting hung up on the network key bit :(
[08:10] <slavik> X session dies ... more than once ... I have no idea why ... I think it might relate to gnome-settings-daemon, how to troubleshoot this problem?
[08:10] <shafto> bafoc, it doesnt read WMV does it?
[08:10] <amorphous_> rickyfingers, seems a bit clumsy - have been using minsmap recently and want something that simple/interactive to draaw up a flowchart...
[08:10] <steveire> Hey, Is there a good 'normal' tetris for ubuntu? Not tetris with a twist. I'll also accept a windows version if you can point me at one.
[08:10] <enneth> mzanfardino, okay. Take all the time you need :)
[08:10] <Desmaano> Question: can i use VNC to control my Ubuntu server with my windows system??
[08:11] <bafoc> StoneNewt: hmmm
[08:11] <IdleOne> steveire, search in synaptic
[08:11] <Shani> IdleOne : i have one more problem , I have downloaded Network Manager Applet and it is properly installed , lan are working but there is no notification area or ethernet connection icons on my Ubuntu desktop , CAN U HELP ME PLZ
[08:11] <Bsims> Desmaano: Yeah get tightvnc
[08:11] <bafoc> shafto: good question... I'm not sure... try googling it... kino and wmv
[08:11] <amorphous_> Bsims, I know it well... tractor feed... flies out the back of chain printers like there's no tomorrow ;)
[08:11] <steveire> IdleOne: There's lot's of tetris with a twist there.
[08:11] <StoneNewt> bafoc: the kernels will be diffrent from edgy and dapper right? could it be the drivers aren't compatible with my aging WAP?
[08:11] <Bsims> amorphous_: Heh makes great paper airplanes
[08:11] <blizzkid> lo all, I have a problem getting wlan to work, I tried both the ndiswrapper way, and the intel driver for linux, but when I try to load the linux driver, I get "ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection" --> That makes me suspect it`s not the right card, but lspci doesn`t tell me much more. Can anyone help me getting the wlan to work? My GF really needs that to work.
[08:11] <amorphous_> little green lines to help u read it...
[08:11] <IdleOne> steveire, dont think you will find the original tetris due to copyright laws
[08:12] <amorphous_> I'll bet - where dya get that - they still use it?
[08:12] <amorphous_> *mindmap ricky
[08:12] <amorphous_> *mindmap rickyfingers
[08:12] <Bsims> amorphous_: I used it at least a decade ago
[08:12] <Kronuz> hey, about the Beagle search, how does it indexes files? are there filters that tell it how to treat the different types of files?
[08:12] <dings> Hi. I just tried to switch to php4 from php5 (apache2-mod and gd) and I get a Fatal Error caused by imagecreatefrompng(). Any suggestions other then reinstalling php5?
[08:12] <Desmaano> which install should i get then? tightvnc made for Red Hat ?? and ubuntu gives the message, unable to open
[08:12] <Gorgapor> is there a way to turn off the "alt+click drags a window" functionality?
[08:12] <amorphous_> I remember using it at college about 25years ago!!!
[08:12] <Uber_newbie> hey all, aside from vnc what is the best utility for remote desktop
[08:12] <Gorgapor> it's not in keyboard shortcuts
[08:12] <Shani> IdleOne : i have one more problem , I have downloaded Network Manager Applet and it is properly installed , lan are working but there is no notification area or ethernet connection icons on my Ubuntu desktop , CAN U HELP ME PLZ
[08:13] <waxyfresh> how do i install the cntrl alt escape thing that kubuntu has for killing nonresponsive programs?
[08:13] <IdleOne> Shani, right click on the panel then chose Add to panel and then scroll down a little and you will find a network icon there click on it and add it to panel
[08:13] <slavik> Uber_newbie: ssh
[08:13] <Gorgapor> Uber_newbie, you could also try NX
[08:13] <amorphous_> shame my IT skills have gone down instead of up !!!
[08:13] <Uber_newbie> lol
[08:13] <Uber_newbie> gui
[08:13] <Uber_newbie> NX
[08:13] <Bsims> Desmaano: are you wanting to control linux from windows or what?
[08:13] <Uber_newbie> thanks
[08:13] <slavik> servers don't need a GUI ...
[08:13] <tecta> slavik,  ok
[08:13] <IdleOne> Uber_newbie, Freenx
[08:13] <Desmaano> Bsims: yes i want to control my server, from my windows machine
[08:13] <IdleOne> !freenx > Uber_newbie
[08:13] <StoneNewt> The annoying thing is that it works perfectly under dapper
[08:14] <foxbat> ssh!
[08:14] <StoneNewt> but other things don't :(
[08:14] <slavik> X session dies ... more than once ... I have no idea why ... I think it might relate to gnome-settings-daemon, how to troubleshoot this problem?
[08:14] <Bsims> Desmaano: install vncserver on the linux side, then get the windows tightvnc client
[08:14] <amorphous_> shame my IT skills have gone down instead of up !!!
[08:15] <Desmaano> Bsims: do you also know if i get the download for Redhat if it works ?
[08:15] <Bsims> Nope it won't, Debian and Ubuntu use debs not rpms
[08:15] <JBLoudG20> anybody here use a chaintek av-710?
[08:15] <bansh3> is there a way to reinstall current packages on the system after erased /usr ?
[08:15] <amorphous_> ok - gotta go... thanks Bsims bafoc (just got that ;)) and rickyfingers - will check them out.
[08:16] <Pollywog> what about making a deb out of an rpm? it sometimes works
[08:16] <foxbat> bansh3: is /usr its own partition?
[08:16] <Pici> !alien
[08:16] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:16] <mzanfardino> enneth: well, as I stated before, I printed out the instructions and do this manually, however, there is a project (http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html) that aims to automate this.  Baring my finding a link to the document I use, check out the link and see if Envy does the trick.
[08:16] <Bsims> Desmaano: open a terminal or synaptic and type sudo apt-get install vncserver
[08:16] <enneth> mzanfardino, I'll give it a shot.. Thanks a lot ;)
[08:17] <bansh3> it was on / , i replaced some files from a fresh installed copy of ubuntu and still got files missing
[08:17] <mzanfardino> come back here and let me know if it does/doesn't, as I'd like to know if I should abandon my manual process for Envy.
[08:17] <slavik> X session dies ... more than once ... I have no idea why ... I think it might relate to gnome-settings-daemon, how to troubleshoot this problem?
[08:17] <mzanfardino> enneth: do read the site though, as you will need to install a few libraries, etc.
[08:17] <mrcold> how do i access my windows hard drive?
[08:17] <Pollywog> slavik: it keeps restarting or it just dies?
[08:17] <bafoc> Bsims: there is a program called Envy to install the nvidia drivers ( used it once ) :-)
[08:18] <foxbat> bansh: you'll probably have to reinstall the relevant packages
[08:18] <waxyfresh> how do i install the cntrl alt escape thing that kubuntu has for killing nonresponsive programs?
[08:18] <Uber_newbie> is freenx more efficient than dxp or lbxproxy?
[08:18] <foxbat> that uses those missing files
[08:19] <Jeeva> how do i uninstall rp-pppoe
[08:19] <Pollywog> jeeva you mean a module or a package?
[08:19] <Jeeva> well i used the source
[08:19] <Jeeva> and now its conflicting a bit with default ubuntu pppoe dialer
[08:20] <Jeeva> pon works
[08:20] <Jeeva> but pppoe-start times out
[08:20] <bansh3> foxbat: well ... is there a way to reinstall them or i need to do manualy, still have my dpkg database intact
[08:20] <Pollywog> did you make a deb pkg from it and then install the deb?
[08:20] <Frank141> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[08:20] <Jeeva> i downloaded the tar.gz from the site & make install
[08:20] <Pollywog> #ubuntu-de
[08:21] <Pollywog> Jeeva: in that case I do not know how to remove it
[08:21] <slavik> X session dies ... more than once ... I have no idea why ... I think it might relate to gnome-settings-daemon, how to troubleshoot this problem?
[08:21] <Pollywog> slavik: did you check the log?
[08:21] <qwartz> hello, anyone have success installing vmware tools onto ubunto?
[08:21] <waxyfresh> could anyone running frostwire rn top or sustem info and see how much memory its takeing up?its under java.im curius becasue mine seems to be takeing up half my resources
[08:21] <waxyfresh> !frostwire
[08:21] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:21] <mzanfardino> qwartz: yep
[08:22] <pestilence> does anybody know of a hardware digital tv tuner (HD) -> divx encoder?
[08:22] <waxyfresh> theres not a frostwire room  is there?
[08:22] <slavik> Pollywog: which one?
[08:22] <darkusurp> for BitchX when i type ./configure it says error C compiler cannot create executables? any help?
[08:22] <bafoc> Jeeva: with source installs, there really is no easy way to find all the files do remove them. You would need to know all of the file names, and libs that were compiled.
[08:22] <Pollywog> slavik: the log in /tmp
[08:22] <qwartz> mzanfardino: i'm noobie on linux, so as far as i understand .rpm package is not an option, right?
[08:23] <slavik> Pollywog: you mean the X log in /var/log/ ?
[08:23] <darkusurp> for BitchX when i type ./configure it says error C compiler cannot create executables? any help?
[08:23] <Brilliant> Where i can get help in german language?
[08:23] <Pollywog> I believe the errors are logged to a file in /tmp if you get an error
[08:23] <slavik> !de
[08:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:23] <waxyfresh> !gr
[08:23] <jarred> need help
[08:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:23] <jarred> can some one help me
[08:23] <pestilence> qwartz: they have a tarball
[08:23] <Brilliant> thank you slavik
[08:23] <pestilence> qwartz: i have vmware server running on my machine
[08:23] <harry_> I am having some problems with the remote login on a network
[08:23] <bafoc> !questions
[08:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:23] <pestilence> qwartz: search ubuntuforums.com ... there is a howto
[08:23] <IceTox_> be back later :-)
[08:23] <qwartz> Thx!
[08:24] <darkusurp> what clients of irc are you guys using
[08:24] <waxyfresh> could anyone running frostwire rn top or sustem info and see how much memory its takeing up?its under java.im curius becasue mine seems to be takeing up half my resources
[08:24] <waxyfresh> xirc
[08:24] <harry_> It says scanning for hosts... ... ... and then tells me there are none
[08:24] <slavik> Pollywog: I don't see anything that resembles a log in /tmp
[08:24] <foxbat> bansh: dont think theres an automated way to do that
[08:24] <bafoc> ChatZilla
[08:24] <Pici> irssi
[08:24] <rapid> xchat
[08:24] <Pollywog> darkusurp: at the moment, kvirc
[08:24] <darkusurp> for BitchX when i type ./configure it says error C compiler cannot create executables? any help?
[08:24] <bansh3> thanks foxbat
[08:24] <jarred> on the install wow forum ubuntu what do i on number 3
[08:24] <foxbat> hmm
[08:24] <foxbat> could try dpkg -L to list files installed by packages
[08:24] <pestilence> darkusurp: apt-get install build-essential
[08:25] <Pici> darkusurp: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:25] <Hyper-cool> Can anyone suggest a room to go to for ATI vid card issues?
[08:25] <foxbat> but since you lost /usr, at this point it would probably save you lots of time to simply copy off stuff you need and do a fresh reinstall
[08:25] <Pollywog> slavik: cd to /tmp and use 'ls -l'
[08:25] <Gorgapor> I'm having trouble using the alt-click function in Inkscape because the alt-click window dragging is superseding it. how do i fix this?
[08:25] <Pici> Hyper-cool: ##hardware
[08:25] <jarred> what do i do
[08:25] <morghot> hi all
[08:25] <Hyper-cool> thx
[08:25] <bafoc> Gorgapor: check the System->Prefs:Keyboard
[08:26] <bafoc> Gorgapor: check the System->Prefs->Keyboard shortcuts
[08:26] <Asl[a] n> well, so anyone a bit of help? looking for an app that could recover deleted files on a vfat partition. is it possible to do this using fsck?
[08:26] <Gorgapor> bafoc, ok
[08:26] <jarred> what do i do for number 3
[08:26] <waxyfresh> could anyone running frostwire rn top or sustem info and see how much memory its takeing up?its under java.im curius becasue mine seems to be takeing up half my resources
[08:26] <Pollywog> where does Ubuntu put X errors when one is using a session manager?  is it not in /tmp?
[08:26] <pestilence> Pollywog: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:26] <rapid> waxyfresh, nothing strange there :)
[08:27] <Pici> Pollywog: ~/.xsession-errors
[08:27] <Pollywog> pestilence: YES thanks
[08:27] <jarred> helppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[08:27] <jarred> me
[08:27] <Qrminator> Hi, I've installed ubuntu recently and i need to copy codecs to folder in /usr/lib/ how can i do it? i can't drag&drop like in microshit..
[08:27] <merc> hm, i was doing a dist-upgrade thing (via update-manager -c -d), and it is currently stuck on the step of configuring libgstreamer plugins...what should i do?
[08:27] <rapid> noooooooooooooooo
[08:27] <waxyfresh> rapid: how much useage?
[08:27] <bafoc> !questions > jarred
[08:27] <Pollywog> Pici: does it use that file when you use a session manager?
[08:27] <waxyfresh> how doi get a display of peopple in a room on xirc?
[08:27] <harry_> How do I get my sister's edubuntu computer to recognize my ubuntu computer over a windoze network
[08:27] <Pici> Pollywog: I'm not sure
[08:27] <killaz> I tried to install the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers but it aint working...
[08:27] <Pollywog> I think that is for when you use the startx command as a user
[08:27] <rapid> waxyfresh, /who #chan
[08:27] <Pollywog> I might be wrong though
[08:27] <killaz> how can I revert back to the old xorg.conf
[08:28] <dyrne> Qrminator: there is an option in menu to run as root or soemthin use that or from terminail 'gksudo nautilus&'
[08:28] <killaz> it told me that it backed it up
[08:28] <slavik> Pollywog: there is .ICE-unix, .X11-unix and a .X0-lock
[08:28] <Pollywog> killaz there should be a backup
[08:28] <pestilence> Qrminator: alt+f2, enter that command
[08:28] <ompaul> harry_, use IPs and openssh-server on both
[08:28] <bafoc> killaz: there should be a backup with a data in /etc/X11
[08:28] <merc> killaz: i think the backup is in /etc/X11/
[08:28] <harry_> should I try rebooting the network?
[08:28] <jarred> on the install wow forum ubuntu what do i on number 3
[08:28] <enneth> mzanfardino, it works. Thanks for the help ;)
[08:28] <harry_>  wait
[08:28] <Qrminator> dyrne, i know, but how to copy all files from one folder to another..
[08:28] <jarred> on the install wow forum ubuntu what do i on number 3
[08:28] <harry_> how do I do that?
[08:28] <morghot> i just intall my driver nvidia from NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run, all its OK, i can start my X enviroment with 3d aceletarion support,    BUT, when i restarting my computer, my X drivers are lost and i have reinstal drivers another time;  why matter that
[08:28] <bafoc> jarred: dude, please stop repeating yourself
[08:28] <Pollywog> slavik try ~/.xsession-errors
[08:29] <pestilence> Qrminator: using nautilus, it is drag and drop just like windows
[08:29] <jarred> now one answerion me
[08:29] <bafoc> jarred: what is the link you are talking about
[08:29] <killaz> damn there is no backup file in there :-(
[08:29] <Gorgapor> bafoc, it doesn't seem to be in there or in keyboard shortcuts
[08:29] <Qrminator> ok i'll try
[08:29] <Pollywog> though I don't believe you will find anything there if you are using a session managert
[08:29] <jarred> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=312482&highlight=world+of+warcraft
[08:29] <bafoc> jarred: chill, remember this IRC channel and the folks helping are volenteers....
[08:29] <bafoc> oops, typo
[08:29] <jarred> go there and tell me what to do on number 3
[08:29] <killaz> bafoc: no *.bak or *~file in there
[08:30] <ompaul> jarred, ask don't demand - it works better
[08:30] <jarred> ok im sry
[08:30] <jarred> everone
[08:30] <StoneNewt> bafoc: for the record problem sloved!
[08:30] <T0aD> lo all
[08:30] <killaz> bafoc: nothing that points out to be a backup
[08:30] <Pollywog> slavik try also where Pestilence said...   in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:30] <T0aD> does someone know which package contain the source of the binary id please ? thanks :)
[08:30] <Pollywog> I think that one is correct
[08:31] <T0aD> ah coreutils maybe
[08:31] <carlesoriol> I've a 64 bits machine but does not work the linux 32. I've readed: "On systems without support for the PER_LINUX_32 execution domain, this program has no effect". My question is what is producing this? The processor, the motherboard, my lowlatency kernel, memory?
[08:31] <jarred> does any one now what to do
[08:31] <bafoc> jarred
[08:31] <slavik> Pollywog: well, the old one (for the crashed session) caught sig 11
[08:31] <StoneNewt> not sure what the problem was but 'upgrading' the firmware to the previous revision, slow network acces, worked
[08:31] <slavik> which is SIGSERV ...
[08:31] <bafoc> jarred: it says to copy all of the data on the CD's to a directory on your hard drive
[08:31] <harry_> What does "use IPs and openssh-server on both" mean??
[08:31] <slavik> !paste
[08:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:31] <jarred> what does that mean
[08:32] <Qrminator> yeah, thanks guys :)
[08:32] <Pollywog> I checked and my log is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:32] <Qrminator> it's working
[08:32] <ompaul> harry_, so do this, open a terminal (applications, accessories terminal) on both in each type ifconfig you will see a value that is an ip for each machine that is a set of numbers for each when you have done that let me know
[08:32] <merc> im doing a dist upgrade (via update-manager -c -d), and it's stuck on 'configuring libgstreamer' step, what should i do
[08:32] <slavik> Pollywog: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11078/
[08:32] <merc> (what is safe to do, rather..)
[08:32] <bafoc> jarred: well, just as it says... copy the contents of the warcraft cd to your hard drive
[08:32] <bafoc> brb
[08:32] <jarred> were on my harddrive
[08:33] <killaz> this is what I was afraid of.. still it happens.... I should have backed the *.conf file myself...
[08:33] <jarred> thats what i want to now
[08:33] <Darren> hi all
[08:33] <Darren> does anyone here know anything about PXE booting?
[08:33] <javelin> omg help, installing beryl just totally trashed gnome !!
[08:33] <bafoc-away> jarred: just as step 3 says... in a "Directory" where ever you want that directory...
[08:33] <ellinor> jarred: make a folder in your home directory and copy the contents of your world of warcraft cd's into it.
[08:34] <ompaul> javelin, visit #ubuntu-effects they know more of these things
[08:34] <bafoc-away> jarred: Right click on the Desktop and Choose new Folder"
[08:34] <jarred> ok thanks
[08:34] <javelin> ok, thx
[08:34] <rickyfingers> Darren: bios has to support it first of all, then you have to run like  a bootp server, and tftp to get it to work
[08:34] <owner> can anyone recommend a good editor for php, css, and phpmyadmin
[08:34] <Pollywog> slavik: I looked and I don't know why it is crashing
[08:35] <owner> im new to ubuntu
[08:35] <slavik> :(
[08:35] <bafoc> owner: Try gedit, or Eclipse..
[08:35] <slavik> Pollywog: there are problems with gnome-settings-daemon, too
[08:35] <rickyfingers> Darren: easiest way is to use the knoppix cd - that comes with some built in stuff so you don't have to install a bunch of software to get it working
[08:35] <Alam_Ubuntu> geany
[08:35] <jarred> it wont let me make a folder
[08:35] <bafoc> owner:  Eclipse may be better...
[08:35] <faustojr> gedit have some good features
[08:35] <Pollywog> slavik: can you use kde without crashes?
[08:35] <harry_> Well, I can't login to my sister's computer, and I can't get a hold of her to login, so I'll try later
[08:35] <rickyfingers> Darren: then you just have to make sure the machine you want to PXE boot is set up right.  Then it'll boot knoppix too.
[08:36] <slavik> Pollywog: don't have kde on this system
[08:36] <bafoc> jarred: try making the directory on your Desktop
[08:36] <Pollywog> oic
[08:36] <slavik> should I install it?
[08:36] <slavik> ie: is it worth the try?
[08:36] <rickyfingers> Darren: knoppix is a good way to start for a reference...don't know if ubuntu has similar utilities, but both are debian based.
[08:36] <Pollywog> slavik you could install something like icewm to test
[08:36] <l90bpm> pollywog, get it up and running?
[08:37] <foxbat> i think PXE also requires your dhcp server supports it
[08:37] <Pollywog> and install the gnome support package for icewm
[08:37] <Pollywog> l90bpm: I was not brave enough to try it after I saw the warning about breakage
[08:37] <Chamuco> I am trying to get totem to play wmv funny thing is vlc can play them but not totem any ideas, (I have already installed w32codec)
[08:37] <Pollywog> I would come back here and everyone would laugh at me ;)
[08:38] <Pollywog> for breaking my system
[08:38] <Treze> hi there. i've been looking around the internet for some time, to find how to configure my ATI Mobility Radeon X700 to have 3d acceleration, and i must say that is pretty hard
[08:38] <AlexC_> !ati | Treze
[08:38] <ubotu> Treze: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:38] <l90bpm> ah'  oh well..   if you change your mind.. here's some WoW! 4 it  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2253536
[08:38] <Pollywog> ty
[08:38] <Chamuco> Treze, I hace a x300 dual head & works like a charm
[08:38] <dhq> can any one give me a alternate repo for beryl
[08:39] <Treze> AlexC_,  ty
[08:39] <Chamuco> what I did is pretty easy, go to synaptic search for fglrx
[08:39] <AlexC_> dhq: there are 3 I think on the Beryl Wiki, but for more beryl-related help go to #ubuntu-effects please
[08:39] <faustojr> :O
[08:39] <Pollywog> l90bpm: I think I will create a new user account on my system and try it
[08:39] <faustojr> =-O
[08:39] <Treze> Chamuco, my ati x700 is giving me some headaches
[08:40] <Chamuco> did you search synaptic?
[08:40] <darkusurp> what if i get a configure error: cannot find setupterm tgetent
[08:40] <Treze> Chamuco, yes
[08:40] <darkusurp> what if i get a configure error: cannot find setupterm (or) tgetent
[08:40] <l90bpm> it's fun.. I like it..  definitely worth a look see
[08:40] <secion8> how do i set the source for kismet
[08:40] <AlexC_> !repeat | darkusurp
[08:40] <ubotu> darkusurp: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:40] <Treze> and i have installed it, butit still doesnt work
[08:40] <darkusurp> i put the (or) in
[08:40] <Chamuco> Treze,  I'll tell you what I did to make it work for me it is simple
[08:41] <harry_> ok, so i got it to locin. My ip adress is 192.168.1.100, and tho other box is 192.168.1.104
[08:41] <Treze> sure
[08:41] <rickyfingers> darksurp: are you compiling something from source?
[08:41] <darkusurp> yes
[08:41] <l90bpm> now I got it..  it's just getting exactly the way that I want it that is going to be tricky
[08:41] <Pollywog> l90bpm: are you using KDE or Gnome?
[08:41] <Chamuco> as I was saying search fglrx then install fglrx control and xorg.driver
[08:41] <faustojr> i trying to find some way to my Ubuntu think that my PC is x86
[08:41] <l90bpm> both, on this pc Gnome
[08:41] <faustojr> is that esay?
[08:41] <faustojr> easy
[08:42] <Qrminator> I've got one more question.. i've just downloaded codecs but i don't know actually where to put them..
[08:42] <AlexC_> !codecs | Qrminator
[08:42] <ubotu> Qrminator: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <Treze> Chamuco, i'll try again
[08:42] <Pollywog> l90bpm: k I will continue installing and then use it on a new account to minimize any damage
[08:42] <Chamuco> then I went to the terminal and did aticonfig initial+dual-head overlay=1 dtop=horizontal b/c I have 2 monitors
[08:42] <Chamuco> wait
[08:43] <l90bpm> since I'm a n00b..  it won't hurt anything on mine.. it will just give me lots of practice..
[08:43] <Pollywog> are there free codecs that are not illegal to use?
[08:43] <faustojr> w32codecs?
[08:43] <Pollywog> I don't use the codecs because I read it was illegal
[08:43] <Pollywog> yes those
[08:44] <ronkz> I need some big help to get my serial modem working, anybody savvy here?
[08:44] <crdlb> Pollywog, marginally legal
[08:44] <|rt|> Pollywog: depends on if you own a license of windows and where you live
[08:44] <l90bpm> adding all that stuff all over again...  one he** of a learning experience
[08:44] <AlexC_> Pollywog: they are only illegal in some countries .. they are normally fine to install
[08:44] <Pollywog> everything is illegal where I live
[08:44] <AlexC_> Pollywog: lol :P
[08:44] <Pollywog> US
[08:44] <Qrminator> where do you live? :>
[08:44] <l90bpm> I'm wondering just how illegal some of that stuff is..   haven't got that far yet
[08:44] <Pollywog> US
[08:44] <Treze> Chamuco, i prefer to go to xorg manually and put fglrx and erase ati from -> driver "ati"
[08:45] <Qrminator> ok but does anybody know where i should put these codecs?
[08:45] <Treze> cuz when i use the aticonfig --initial my x server just wont work
[08:45] <l90bpm> I live in Tennessee..   doubt these cops will care much around here..
[08:45] <AlexC_> Qrminator: put what codecs?
[08:45] <Chamuco>  then go to your xorg.conf and you add this 2 lines at the end "Section "Extensions"  Option "Composite" "false"   EndSection
[08:45] <l90bpm> "Whats a linux sherf?"
[08:45] <Pollywog> Qrminator: I think they go in /usr/lib
[08:45] <AlexC_> Qrminator: you should just be able to download codecs from Synaptic,
[08:45] <Chamuco> and the second line is:
[08:45] <Qrminator> i've downloaded some codecs for mplayer
[08:46] <ardchoille> Pollywog: With the overcrowding of prisons in the US, I doubt they will do anyting
[08:46] <mrpoundsign> anyone here using Feisty?
[08:46] <Pollywog> hold on and I will find out
[08:46] <Tomcat_> mrpoundsign: #ubuntu+1
[08:46] <faustojr> i hearded tha M$ will pay a lot of money 'cause of the mp3 codec
[08:46] <scar_> mrpoundsign: I tried feisty
[08:46] <mrpoundsign> Tomcat_: thanks.  :)
[08:47] <AlexC_> Qrminator: did you read the link I gave you??
[08:47] <AlexC_> Qrminator: it tells you how to install the extra codecs via Synaptic, no need to download random files and copy them to places,
[08:47] <iMilad> does beagle make my ubuntu slower?
[08:47] <Tomcat_> iMilad: Yes, but not much.
[08:47] <Chamuco> there is another line hold a second
[08:47] <Tomcat_> iMilad: Beagle is designed to keep system load at a minimum.
[08:47] <Tomcat_> iMilad: (But the edgy one is buggy as hell)
[08:48] <merc> im doing a dist upgrade (via update-manager -c -d), and it's stuck on 'configuring libgstreamer' step, what should i do? (or what is safe?)
[08:48] <Qrminator> i've tried via synaptic and there was some kind of error..
[08:48] <l90bpm> I cheated on all my playback ability..  where is that link?   one sec.. brb
[08:48] <faustojr> okay
[08:48] <iMilad> well, so how can stop beagle from running?
[08:48] <faustojr> good job for you...and bye
[08:48] <Chamuco> sorry these 2 lines Section "Extensions"        Option  "Composite" "Disable"EndSection Section "ServerFlags"        Option  "AIGLX" "off"EndSection
[08:49] <chainsawdude> hey guys i want to instal ubuntu on my laptop, i have tried it before but couldnt connect to the internet once it was installed, i could however connect to my modem/router page but not past that this is my router http://www.addon-tech.com/arm8100.html any ideas how to sort this ?
[08:49] <Tomcat_> iMilad: Uninstall it, or "pkill beagle", or remove it from "Sessions" and relog in.
[08:49] <Chamuco> that worked for me
[08:49] <iMilad> tx tomcat
[08:49] <harry_> How do I set up my computer & another computer to to remote desktops? I have terminal windows open with ifconfig, and I know their IP adresses
[08:49] <eyalw> hi
[08:49] <harry_> *to do
[08:49] <kontingenz> I need a little local nameserver on my workstation. is there anything "smaler" than bind?
[08:49] <Pollywog> Qrminator: I think they go in /usr/lib/w32codecs
[08:49] <binarydigit> chainsawdude: you sure your router is configured ok?
[08:49] <Chamuco> Treze, it is here  wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[08:49] <eyalw> i'm buying macbook, intending on instaling winXP and Ubuntu on it, and thing i should know?
[08:49] <scar_> Quick question:  If I apt-get remove something, and it says "ubuntu-desktop" will also be removed, does that remove a lot of other stuff I might want?
[08:49] <Pollywog> that is where mplayer looks for them IIRC
[08:50] <Taime1> how do i burn an iso cd out of many many files? one that will boot....
[08:50] <AlexC_> scar_: that's just a 'metapacakge' it wont actually remove anything, it's safe to remove
[08:50] <Tomcat_> eyalw: There's some info on the wiki and Google on what is important for MacBooks.
[08:50] <scar_> AlexC_:thanks
[08:50] <AlexC_> scar_: but if you plan to upgrade Ubuntu you'll have to reinstall ubuntu-desktop first,
[08:50] <chainsawdude> binarydigit yes its all fine, and if i use network tools i can ping websites and trace route them but i cant actually connect to websites in firefox?
[08:50] <mweichert> does anyone know what this means: If you are using initrd preseeding, you only have to make sure a file named preseed.cfg is included in the root directory of the initrd. The installer will automatically check if this file is present and load it.
[08:50] <mweichert> what is the root directory of the initrd?
[08:51] <AlexC_> mweichert: I'd say where initrd is running,
[08:51] <mweichert> AlexC: on the alternative install cd, what directory would this be?
[08:51] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: can you telnet yahoo.com 80?
[08:51] <AlexC_> mweichert: honestly no idea,
[08:51] <killaz> Im installin the nvidia drivers and bumped into this message: You appear to be using a modular Xorg release, but nvidia-installer was unable to determine the correct X module installation path with the `pkg-config` utility.  Please install the Xorg SDK/development package for your distribution.
[08:52] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers sorry im a bit dumb but i dont know how to do that
[08:52] <LightCatcher> Is there a way to install KDE and switch between the two if I've already installed the standard GNOME version of ubuntu?
[08:52] <killaz> I dont know what my nextstep should be..
[08:52] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: what i mean is try typing "telnet yahoo.com 80"
[08:52] <AlexC_> LightCatcher: yep, in terminal type "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:52] <linxeh> killaz: afterstep probably, or xfce
[08:52] <harry_> !patience
[08:52] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:52] <rickyfingers> you should see a bunch of html source scroll by
[08:52] <l90bpm> here it is..   http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full   an easy do it all multimedia "how to"
[08:52] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: ^^^
[08:52] <AlexC_> LightCatcher: then when you go to the login screen, if you go to Options -> Session you can choose from KDE or Gnome
[08:52] <LightCatcher> AlexC: Thank you!
[08:53] <chainsawdude> where do i type that? <<<dumb :/
[08:53] <AlexC_> LightCatcher: you're welcome,
[08:53] <killaz> linxeh: :-)
[08:53] <Feengur> !hi
[08:53] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:53] <ucordes> !users
[08:53] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[08:53] <killaz> linxeh: think I will stick for now to gnome
[08:53] <ucordes> how is that gnome tool for user management called?
[08:53] <michael117> what can I enter to view a log of commands entered via ssh session and their outputs?
[08:53] <n-iCe> how can i change my skin for windows vista skin ?
[08:53] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: type "telnet yahoo.com 80" in a terminal, just like you were pinging and tracerouting
[08:53] <quaal> hmm
[08:53] <linxeh> killaz: sorry, I was making a lame joke about nextstep
[08:53] <AlexC_> n-iCe: gnome-look.org
[08:54] <quaal> does anyone run opera?
[08:54] <BigMac> Hey which gigabeat model performs better currently or are they the same between the f and x
[08:54] <Feengur> i'm having trouble with in game sound.  ET doesn't have permissions to map dev/dsp even when i run sudo et.  How do i change the permissions of dsp?
[08:54] <ardchoille> ucordes: sudo users-admin
[08:54] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude:  it'll tell you it connected, and then if you hit return a few times, you'll see a bunch of html scroll by
[08:54] <AlexC_> quaal: I'm sure a lot of people do, but it's probably best to ask you're real question =)
[08:54] <n-iCe> AlexC_,  done, and now ?
[08:54] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers i dont have ubuntu installed now im back on windows, but i will try doing what you say
[08:54] <l90bpm> use to, but got really attached to a few ad ons firefox offered
[08:54] <AlexC_> n-iCe: find a theme you want ....
[08:54] <ardchoille> ucordes: Sorru, gksu users-admin
[08:54] <linxeh> quaal: only briefly, and then decided firefox and konqueror suited me better
[08:54] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers what if i dont get the info you say?
[08:54] <n-iCe> AlexC_,  ok let me search
[08:54] <killaz> linxeh: yes so that's why the gnome answer :-)
[08:54] <AlexC_> n-iCe: then once downloaded, go to System->Prefs->Theme and just drag/drop the file into that window
[08:54] <l90bpm> I llike how it would pick up where I left off in opera
[08:54] <linxeh> killaz:  :)
[08:55] <NickGarvey> !res
[08:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:55] <Feengur> anyone?
[08:55] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: you can do that in windows, if you don't get the info, then you know you're blocked at port 80 - that's an outside guess but if you can ping and traceroute, but not get web pages...
[08:55] <AlexC_> !anyone | Feengur
[08:55] <quaal> yea.. ive been running it for a while now but i just noticed that youtube videos are like cutoff when playing in the window
[08:55] <ubotu> Feengur: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:55] <quaal> like the video is larger than the square for it
[08:55] <quaal> and the controls are barely showing
[08:55] <n-iCe> AlexC_,  how is called?
[08:55] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers ok ill give it a try
[08:55] <Feengur> obviously didn't read my actual question...
[08:55] <AlexC_> n-iCe: I don't understand sorry, what do you mean?
[08:56] <purpleplether> hey, I want to download some music, but i don't know how to do that in ubuntu
[08:56] <n-iCe> Beryl Emerald Theme , AlexC_  is that?
[08:56] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: actually, jusst tried it in windows too.
[08:56] <n-iCe> or GDM Theme
[08:56] <n-iCe> or what?
[08:56] <Feengur> having issues with ET mounting dev/dsp even run as root.  how do i change the permissions of dsp?
[08:56] <AlexC_> Feengur: people wont go scrolling up and down this IRC channel trying to find you're question. Instead of saying "Anyone?" just say you're question again.
[08:56] <AlexC_> n-iCe: depends, are you running Beryl ?
[08:56] <n-iCe> AlexC_, no
[08:56] <AlexC_> n-iCe: then you don't want Beryl Themes,
[08:56] <Taime1> so is part of the answer to my question, "k3b cannot do this" ?
[08:56] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: it works, after telnet yahoo.com 80 <enter> type "GET" (chars will not echo) then hit enter a few times, you'll see a bunch of html scroll by
[08:56] <l90bpm> he is having issues w/ game sound
[08:56] <Mus|work> Guys, how do i make Mplayer my default player for all movies? Right clicking on every movie is getting tiresome - same will apply to Mp3's
[08:56] <mrpoundsign> I am getting a "/sbin/modprobe abnormal exit" -- anyone know how I start debugging this?  I am down to an initramfs prompt.
[08:56] <harry_> How do I set up my computer & another computer to to remote desktops? I have terminal windows open with ifconfig, and I know their IP adresses
[08:57] <Taime1> how do i burn an iso cd out of many many files? one that will boot....
[08:57] <n-iCe> AlexC_,  then what i want ?
[08:57] <Chamuco> I installed ubuntu and at that point my pc had 2 HD which I mounted sda4 & 5 then I removed that HD and now my ubuntu won't boot can I go in with a live dvd modify fstab and fix it without messing up my install?
[08:57] <AlexC_> n-iCe: look for GTK2 and Metacity. Metacity is the window borders and GTK2 is the controls like Buttons/Scroll bars/TExtboxs etc
[08:57] <l90bpm> you like it bgetter thaVLC?  just curious
[08:57] <l90bpm> I'm fat fingered today for some reason.. sleep dep I guess
[08:57] <mtchaze> Anybody experienced Ubuntu 6.10 freezing on them for no apparent reason?
[08:57] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers there is no html or anything
[08:58] <l90bpm> not as of yet, hopefully not
[08:58] <n-iCe> AlexC_,  which one? http://gnome-look.org/content/search.php
[08:58] <AlexC_> n-iCe: I can't tell you which theme's you will like.
[08:58] <n-iCe> like windows vista
[08:59] <l90bpm> Just call it Windoze DRM Edition
[08:59] <AlexC_> n-iCe: then find a Vista one. search for "Vista" or "Aero" maybe?
[08:59] <Chamuco> !codecs
[08:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:59] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: are you typing GET after telnetting?
[08:59] <AlexC_> n-iCe: if you need help then you need to help us =) I wont spoon feed you.
[08:59] <chainsawdude> yes
[08:59] <l90bpm> it will make a lot more sense
[08:59] <brakkvatn> Hey. Has anyone used gnomoradio
[08:59] <AlexC_> !anyone | brakkvatn
[08:59] <ubotu> brakkvatn: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:00] <brakkvatn> Hey. Have YOU had problems with segfault on gnomoradio on edgy?
[09:00] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: then hit enter 3 times
[09:00] <efface> how do i add a program to start with boot of X, such as beryl and kooldock
[09:00] <rickyfingers> if you don't see any code...you're not able to connect over port 80, which is why you can't see web pages.
[09:00] <l90bpm> 2 apps I have not used, sorry
[09:01] <AlexC_> efface: System->Prefs->Session->Startup
[09:01] <Qrminator> i've tried again to install w32codecs via synaptic and it's not downloading.. still 0%
[09:01] <chainsawdude> ok i did that but it goes back to c:/documents and settings
[09:01] <efface> ty
[09:01] <erUSUL> efface: System>Preferences>Sesion 3rd tab
[09:01] <subMacrolize> I have a problem with running a command on startup. Could someone help me?
[09:01] <mtchaze> How do I do a 'reset' if the screen freezes ALT+CTRL+??
[09:01] <brakkvatn> Could someone please install gnomoradio on edgy and tell me that they don't get a segfault?
[09:01] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: the thing is, I don't really buy my explanation...I jumped in the middle of something, so maybe I don't fully understand the situation
[09:01] <lugod> mtchaze: I think you want control+alt+backspace
[09:02] <dyrne> Qrminator: you can just grab them from mplayer's homepage and drop in folder
[09:02] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: obviously you are able to use the internet at the moment, and what does irc use...port 6601 or something?
[09:02] <faceface> hello
[09:02] <Qrminator> in which folder?
[09:02] <efface> whats the command to have my X restart?
[09:02] <lugod> subMacrolize: what is the problem exactly?
[09:02] <Mus|work> Where can i find the place to set default apps to certain file extensions such as .mp3 .ogg and .(movie files) ?
[09:02] <AlexC_> subMacrolize: just say you're questionfirst
[09:02] <mtchaze> Is it common for Edgy to just 'freeze'?
[09:02] <lugod> efface: control+alt+backspace
[09:02] <AlexC_> mtchaze: Edgy is the "edgy" release, so - sometimes it may do whacky things. But for some people it's perfectly stable.
[09:02] <lugod> mtchaze: no
[09:02] <efface> ty lugod
[09:03] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: what I showed you how to do is test network connectivitiy over a certain port...works for testing what ports are open. on a server....
[09:03] <AlexC_> mtchaze: for most people, I mean - it's stable.
[09:03] <Desmaano> how do i find my ip adress in ubuntu ?
[09:03] <AlexC_> ifconfig Desmaano
[09:03] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers yes i can use it coz im on windows at the moment, but when i put ubuntu on i cant get websites up in firefox and cant connect to irc or messenger in gaim or anything
[09:03] <Desmaano> thx
[09:03] <lugod> AlexC_: edgy is considered a stable release, contrary to what you might think from the term 'edgy'
[09:03] <faceface> thanks all
[09:03] <faceface> I got help here the other day
[09:03] <faceface> thanks
[09:03] <l90bpm> My AMD likes it on day 2..
[09:03] <lugod> Desmaano: /sbin/ifconfig in terminal window
[09:03] <mikeconcepts2> is there a gui in edgy that searches through entire file system?
[09:03] <Desmaano> ifconfig was enough :)
[09:03] <AlexC_> lugod: I know it's a stable release yes, but from the word Go Mark and the developers knew it was going to be an Edgy and Rough release,
[09:03] <Mus|work> Where can i find the place to set default apps to certain file extensions such as .mp3 .ogg and .(movie files) ?
[09:03] <l90bpm> still too early to tell
[09:04] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: but in a terminal window, you can ping domain names, or just ip addresses?
[09:04] <mikeconcepts2> search in Nautilus only searches /home
[09:04] <IdleOne> mikeconcepts2, nautilus
[09:04] <ardchoille> AlexC_: How do I find my externel ip address?
[09:04] <progek> I turned on Beryl's blur option and it locked up my computer. Now each time I turn on Beryl my computer locks up. How can I reset defaults without turning on Beryl?
[09:04] <lugod> AlexC_: true.
[09:04] <Desmaano> guys, awesome :) acces my ubuntu system with my laptop :D
[09:04] <AlexC_> ardchoille: www.whatismyipaddress.com :)
[09:04] <l90bpm> yeah, I read some warnings about that
[09:04] <mtchaze> Edgy froze after starting up GAIM. Xchat works better.
[09:04] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers well i used network tool on ubuntu and pinged clarity.jolt.co.uk and it worked ok
[09:04] <ardchoille> AlexC_: Ah, thanks
[09:04] <bafoc> ardchoille: goto ipchicken.com
[09:04] <simonbp> Has anyone got any suggestions for this problem: I'm running feisty with desktop-effects turned on and working great. Resuming from suspend drops me at the locked screen dialog where I need to enter my password to unlock the screen. But a cursor never appears in that dialog box. As far as I can tell, focus remains on the other windows on my desktop. This only happens with desktop-efffect enabled. Any Ideas?
[09:05] <chainsawdude> then i trace route the same domain and it worked fine
[09:05] <lugod> mtchaze: you might have a buggy video driver
[09:05] <AlexC_> simonbp: Feisty is under heavy development, you do understand that?
[09:05] <mikeconcepts2> IdleOne, do you know how to make Nautilus search entire file system?
[09:05] <stanislav> hi boys
[09:05] <jackson3246> hello. I'm using edgy on my laptop and for some reason it can't restart. shutdown -r now freezes at the usplash screen where the ubuntu bar has been completely depleted. how do I fix this?
[09:05] <stanislav> i need sources.list
[09:05] <l90bpm> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia
[09:05] <Qrminator> i've got codecs from mplayer site.. so where have I to put them?
[09:05] <stanislav> i have problem with one of the sources
[09:05] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: the plot thickens...what about pinging tracerouting to other domains?
[09:05] <lugod> jackson3246: were you expecting it to power off?
[09:05] <IdleOne> !easysource | stanislav
[09:05] <ubotu> stanislav: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:05] <ardchoille> !easysource | stanislav
[09:05] <subMacrolize> I followed the instructions for running a system command at startup. I was able to edit the file successfully.  It said I need to create a file of my own with the command in it. I put in the line in crontab pointing to my file, but it wont run on startup.
[09:05] <Desmaano> that's so amazing, how can i let my vnc server startup together with my system? and is "auto-logon" a possibility?
[09:05] <crdlb> Qrminator, /usr/lib/win32
[09:05] <link> Hello
[09:06] <Qrminator> thx
[09:06] <jackson3246> lugod: well I was expecting it to restart and it never goes past that screen
[09:06] <link> I need help with Ubuntu 6.10
[09:06] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: also try the telnet test I told you about...but here's my thing...you're using the same network connection you use for ubuntu with your windows box right now, right?
[09:06] <tracid> Hello. What is the utility for reconfiguring network interface? At the moment, ifup eth0 tells me ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0...
[09:06] <mtchaze> Where can I find a PDFedit package for Edgy?
[09:06] <simonbp> AlexC: Yes, of course. If many people see this problem that's fine. I'd like to know what's causing the problem though. I'm hardly a newbie :)
[09:06] <subMacrolize> The line looks like @reboot /home/tom/startup
[09:06] <chainsawdude> yes same connection
[09:06] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: but you can do everything internet just fine with windows, but not with ubuntu
[09:06] <chainsawdude> yes
[09:06] <lugod> jackson3246: best way to debug it to turn off 'quiet' and 'splash' modes when you boot Linux' so that you can see the kernel messages
[09:06] <Mus|work> Where can i find the place to set default apps to certain file extensions such as .mp3 .ogg and .(movie files) ?
[09:06] <andrew> Last night, I went to try to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty (using update-manager -c -d), upon restarting, the system froze right at the start of the startup sequence.
[09:06] <IdleOne> mikeconcepts, click on file system in the right pane and then click search on tool bar and enter filename
[09:06] <AlexC_> simonbp: just checking, we've had loads of newbies in here running Feisty and not knowing. But for that kind of talk go in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:06] <link> after an hour of configuring my mouse settings, and after rebooting, my mouse now jumps around the screen randomly when I move it, how do I resolve this
[09:07] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: so the problem is not with the connection whatsoever, it's got to be a problem with the way ubuntu's configured.
[09:07] <jackson3246> lugod: allrighty. thanks
[09:07] <Jenn> Hi there
[09:07] <Jenn> holy... so many people.
[09:07] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers possibly, thats what im here to find out
[09:07] <lugod> jackson3246: you will need to edit the kernel command line in the grub screen prior to the linux kernel booting
[09:07] <mhall53> hello i need someone to help me add more repositories that does not come default
[09:07] <Jenn> Can anyone help me? I'm new to linux.
[09:07] <lugod> Jenn: maybe. What's your specific need?
[09:07] <AlexC_> Jenn: we can't help if you ask no question.
[09:07] <ardchoille> Jenn: What do yo need help with?
[09:07] <Qrminator> crdlb, but there is no win32 in /usr/lib
[09:08] <crdlb> Qrminator, make it :D
[09:08] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers i can connect to my router admin page no problem
[09:08] <Jenn> I get a blank screen when I insert the ubuntu live cd
[09:08] <simonbp> AlexC:Ah, beautiful. Thanks AlexC
[09:08] <Qrminator> hehehe
[09:08] <Qrminator> thanks again
[09:08] <crdlb> Qrminator, they're binary windows .dll's right?
[09:08] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: really sounds like a dns problem.
[09:08] <Mus|work> Where can i find the place to set default apps to certain file extensions such as .mp3 .ogg and .(movie files) ?
[09:08] <lugod> jackson3246: hit 'e' to edit the kernel command line and strike out 'quiet' and 'splash' the press 'b' to boot
[09:08] <Jenn> it tries to load the cd with ubuntu scroller bar screen but then I get a black screen.
[09:08] <Qrminator> yep
[09:08] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: what I always do is put my nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:08] <crdlb> Qrminator, then that's where mplayer will look for them
[09:08] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: especially, are you using dhcp or just static ip's?
[09:08] <lugod> jackson3246: or do the same thing by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst (this would be permanent)
[09:09] <dv5237_> Does edgy eft support core duo out of the box?
[09:09] <AlexC_> dv5237yep
[09:09] <Qrminator> we'll se
[09:09] <link> Hello can anyone help me?
[09:09] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers you lost me there i aint got a clue wot that is...hehe
[09:09] <Qrminator> see*
[09:09] <AlexC_> link: not if you don't ask a question.
[09:09] <Jenn> wow..
[09:09] <link> after an hour of configuring my mouse settings, and after rebooting, my mouse now jumps around the screen randomly when I move it, how do I resolve this
[09:09] <lugod> Jenn: have you set your BIOS to boot up from the CD drive?
[09:09] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers its DHCP
[09:09] <rickyfingers> hmmm. I don't use dhcp, I just use static ip's
[09:10] <lugod> Jenn: do you see anything happening before the blank screen?
[09:10] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: the file /etc/resolv.conf is for nameservers (dns)
[09:10] <Hyper-cool> i'm having issues with screen resolution on an ATI mobility Radeon 9600. I can't go above 1280x1024 without getting draw errors on the sides of the screen. any ideas?
[09:10] <Jenn> Yes, it does boot up from CD DRIVE. And I select the option to start/install ubuntu. It goes to next screen, then it I get a blank screen soon after that.
[09:10] <AlexC_> !x | Hyper-cool
[09:10] <ubotu> Hyper-cool: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:10] <andrew> Last night, I went to try to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty (using update-manager -c -d), upon restarting, the system froze right at the start of the startup sequence.
[09:10] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers should i configure it manually the dns servers and IP etc?
[09:10] <alexfox> anyone know how to troubleshoot beryl
[09:10] <mrpoundsign> I am getting the following error: "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/98c9641b-f176-41c8-9767-076643e6a145 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" -- is this familiar to anyone?
[09:10] <killaz> guys I installed the nvidia drivers but Im getting this error now: NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BUSID PC:1:0:0) found
[09:10] <andrew> mrpoundsign: yes, i got it this morning, too
[09:10] <Qrminator> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.   What now? :)
[09:11] <Pollywog> Beryl works okay but slows my system a tad
[09:11] <lugod> Jenn: you have have unusual video hardware that the automatic probing used by the live CD can't deal with
[09:11] <l90bpm> a lot of people have that same resolution problem I have noticed
[09:11] <crdlb> alexfox, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:11] <mrpoundsign> andrew: any luck resolving?
[09:11] <Pollywog> did not slow it when I used it with a new user
[09:11] <lugod> Jenn: there are some options for 'safe video' in the boot-up menu of the live CD
[09:11] <andrew> mrpoundsign: i think we are in the same boat
[09:11] <lugod>  Jenn: I suggest trying those
[09:11] <l90bpm> just in the few days that I have been here I have seen at least 6 a day
[09:11] <shane634> killaz, you got msn?
[09:11] <sethk> killaz, edit your xorg.conf file and change the busID to match your machine
[09:11] <mrpoundsign> andrew: aah.  ok, the hosed boat?  :)
[09:11] <Pollywog> it's only slow with my normal account
[09:11] <link> after an hour of configuring my mouse settings, and after rebooting, my mouse now jumps around the screen randomly when I move it, how do I resolve this - for the love of everything good this is ridiculous
[09:11] <killaz> no...
[09:11] <Jenn> LUGOD: I am going to try Unbuntu alternate. I have tried booting in safemode -- and it does not work. I don't even hear sound that some people do.
[09:11] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers i dont really know how to setup the router properly maybe there is some settings in there that are supposed to be different for linux?
[09:11] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: that's another thing to try...I just don't use dhcp because I live in a barracks and people will try to steal my internet connection, so I have to really lock things down. turning off dhcp is just another way to do that.
[09:11] <crdlb> Qrminator, try: mplayer -vo x11 somefile.avi
[09:12] <lemsx1> does anybody knows the syntax for /etc/hosts.allow and IPv6 addresses?
[09:12] <shane634> killaz, aim?
[09:12] <killaz> sethk: how do I figure the BusID?
[09:12] <Jenn> Lugod: CD also has no defects...
[09:12] <lugod> Jenn: also there is a CD-image called 'altinstall' that does not attempt to use graphics (it boots in text-mode with menus) that in my experience always works even when the regular CD fails due to video problems
[09:12] <killaz> figure out*
[09:12] <sethk> it's in the message you pasted
[09:12] <|rt|> killaz: lspci should show you
[09:12] <shane634> killaz, yahoo messenger?
[09:12] <alexfox> i need help with beryl here are the errors i get for xgl aigl
[09:12] <alexfox> **************************************************************
[09:12] <alexfox> * Beryl system compatiblity check                            *
[09:12] <alexfox> **************************************************************
[09:12] <alexfox> Detected xserver                                : XGL
[09:12] <|rt|> killaz: you may need to use sudo
[09:12] <sethk> killaz, you can also use lspci, but the error message shows you the id
[09:12] <lugod> Jenn: I see. Well the alternate image is probably your best bet then
[09:12] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: absolutely not...the router should have no idea what kind of boxes are connected to it...the whole 7 layer network model thing....
[09:12] <AlexC_> !paste | alexfox
[09:12] <andrew> mrpoundsign: i've been trying to find information all day
[09:12] <ubotu> alexfox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:13] <bafoc> lemsx1: check out - http://www.rhce2b.com/clublinux/RHCE-33.shtml
[09:13] <killaz> shane634: only irc
[09:13] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers do i have to turn of DHCP on my router then?
[09:13] <AlexC_> alexfox #ubuntu-effects or #beryl please
[09:13] <Pollywog> interesting, I can pull a window down like a curtain and look behind it
[09:13] <lemsx1> bafoc: thanks
[09:13] <Jenn> Lugod: THANK YOU! But I don't know what commands I should use.
[09:13] <andrew> AlexC_: he isn't here anymore
[09:13] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: traitionally, a router should only care about packets, specifically, where to send packets over the network.
[09:13] <mrpoundsign> andrew: you getting an '/sbin/modprobe' adnormal exit?
[09:13] <Jenn> Lugod: I'm new to linux...
[09:13] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers and then manual put dns servers and wotever on settings in ubuntu ?
[09:13] <AlexC_> andrew I wondered why tab completion wasn't working!
[09:13] <andrew> mrpoundsign: belive so
[09:13] <shane634> killaz, right click my name and open dialog
[09:13] <andrew> AlexC_: freenode droped him for execess flood...
[09:13] <lugod> Jenn: do you mean what commands to burn the CD?
[09:14] <bafoc> Pollywog: Check this link out - http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Tips/Default_Commands
[09:14] <lemsx1> bafoc: no ipv6 there...
[09:14] <subMacrolize> If I want to run a command at startup, the Ubuntu site says I should put the command in a file and point to it in crontab. What extension should I use for this file?
[09:14] <Pollywog> k
[09:14] <AlexC_> andrew haha freenode does that now by default? that's great
[09:14] <Pollywog> ty
[09:14] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: you don't have to turn dhcp off just limit the range of addresses the router passes out over dhcp, and then give ubuntu an address outside of that range.
[09:14] <l90bpm> cool..  bafoc..  me2 me2
[09:14] <Jenn> Lugod: I know how to burn the iso, but when I reboot... what commands should I enter to initiate the installation.
[09:14] <Qrminator> how to go up one level in console? in windows there was cd..
[09:14] <AlexC_> Qrminator: cd ..
[09:14] <Pollywog> it's working well now, not slow
[09:14] <bafoc> lemsx1: http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2003-January/004716.html
[09:14] <Qrminator> nice :P
[09:14] <AlexC_> Qrminator: note the space,
[09:14] <andrew> AlexC_: always has, hence why most clients automatically delay between pasted lines
[09:14] <lemsx1> bafoc: nothing seems to work for ipv6 and hosts.allow for services like sshd
[09:15] <killaz> is the BusID the nr before the nvdia line?
[09:15] <Pollywog> I am afraid to show this to windows users (Beryl)
[09:15] <AlexC_> andrew really? weird - I've seen people post like 12 lines of code before :S
[09:15] <lugod> Jenn: you shouldn't need any special commands with the altinstall image; it's supposed to boot directly into the installer which will start asking you installation questions in menu form
[09:15] <link> This is absolutely ridiculous. This happens everytime I look for help. It takes me upwards of an hour to get anything properly configured as everything is text based and poorly documented. Using google, ubuntu forums, and irc gets me no help. All this brings is mounting frustration with no resolve.
[09:15] <IdleOne> Pollywog, dont be affraid they have Vista now :P
[09:15] <lemsx1> bafoc: syntax like: aa:bb::1%eth0 (link-local) doesn't work (breaks tcp-wrapper)
[09:15] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: I think the way you may want to go is use the system->networking control panel thing, and put in your settings manually
[09:15] <andrew> AlexC_: irssi and others delay excessively pasted lines
[09:15] <bafoc> lemsx1: and this http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/ref-guide/s1-tcpwrappers-access.html
[09:15] <l90bpm> did the utomatic easy solution for (almost) all problems not help?
[09:15] <Jenn> luhod: whaere can I get the altinstall image?
[09:15] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers ok ill give that a try thx :D
[09:15] <killaz> shane634: I did
[09:16] <lugod> Jenn: looking up URL
[09:16] <subMacrolize> If I want to run a command at startup, the Ubuntu site says I should put the command in a file and point to it in crontab. What extension should I use for this file?
[09:16] <mtchaze> How do I do an emergency reboot- CTRL + ALT + Which F key?
[09:16] <IdleOne> !alternate | Jenn
[09:16] <ubotu> Jenn: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[09:16] <andrew> AlexC_: any idea on feisty upgrade that fail to boot (upon reboot)
[09:16] <Jenn> lugod: where can I get that 'altinstall' image?
[09:16] <rickyfingers> chainsawdude: if you don't have a whole lot of computers hooked up to the network, you don't really have to worry about changing any of the settings for dhcp, just give ubuntu an address that's not being used .... you *should* be ok....you won't blow up your router or anything.
[09:16] <Jenn> Lugod: THANKS! :)
[09:16] <shane634> killaz, you in there with me now?
[09:16] <AlexC_> andrew feisty is under heavy development, so expect things to break. for feisty talk ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:16] <IdleOne> Jenn, www.ubuntu.com should have it
[09:16] <Qrminator> ok i've managed to open movie with mplayer -vo x11 somefile.avi but is there any easier way to open movie?
[09:17] <mrpoundsign> ok, I am missing /dev/disk, it seems.
[09:17] <andrew> AlexC_: kk, i wasn't sure the exact room for that question (and forgot about #ubuntu+1)
[09:17] <lugod> Jenn: http://ubuntu.mirrors.imagepile.net/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[09:17] <crdlb> Qrminator, does it work if you use: mplayer -vo xv movie.avi ?
[09:17] <killaz> shane634: yes..
[09:17] <lemsx1> bafoc: umm... prefixlen ... that i didn't use
[09:17] <l90bpm> easier way to open movie: http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[09:17] <rickyfingers> Qrminator: considered using vlc?  That program plays just about any kind of video file you'd care to throw at it...no commands necessary
[09:17] <l90bpm> (worked for me)
[09:17] <lugod> Jenn: which is linked from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/downloadmirrors
[09:17] <l90bpm> even decodes CSS
[09:18] <killaz> the BusID is the same nr as in my xorg.conf
[09:18] <chainsawdude> rickyfingers ok thx, im going to go give it a try now :)
[09:18] <crdlb> Qrminator, note that Xv only works if no other player is open
[09:18] <l90bpm> don't even have to pull out your slysoft magic
[09:18] <bafoc> lemsx1: :-)
[09:18] <jeeves_Moss> can anyone here give me a hand installing the software to make my PC do this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hVyoLhMcyA
[09:18] <v3rmap> Has anyone successfully used a bluetooth dongle with dapper to connect to a nokia phone via rfcomm?
[09:19] <lemsx1> bafoc: but putting the IP per se should do it
[09:19] <lugod> jenn: I assume you have a regular PC (not 64-bit or PowerPC); if not you might need one of the others
[09:19] <Jenn> lugod: Can I say you rock! :P
[09:19] <lugod> Jenn: thanks :)
[09:19] <Qrminator> it's working in mplayer but i can't rewind
[09:19] <l90bpm> it will apply the changes to whichever player you use,  it was for totem.. but the changes took affect on vlc as well
[09:19] <skule> I just installed Ubuntu with the alternate installation setup disc, and it does not recognize my Realtek 8168 network card, how do I make it work
[09:19] <bafoc> lemsx1: yes it should... you could also try the service name (sshd)
[09:19] <Jenn> lugod: So I burn this image, right?
[09:19] <crdlb> jeeves_Moss, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:19] <lugod> Jenn: yes, then boot it :)
[09:19] <Jenn> aweeeeesome.
[09:19] <sethk> Jenn, yes, just as you burn the other (not alternate) image
[09:19] <jeeves_Moss> crdlb:  thanks.  will do
[09:20] <trond> Hmm why do I get "can't parse that" when trying to view various films on web? I have mplayer-mozilla installed.
[09:20] <Pollywog> is the "superkey" something I need to set in Beryl?
[09:20] <trond> It does not happen with films on youtube (i.e. flash)
[09:20] <Pollywog> or is there a default
[09:21] <Pollywog> trond: if you are using Konq try Firefox instead
[09:21] <bafoc> Pollywog: the superkey is the windows key on your keyboard (if you have a mac it's the apple key)
[09:21] <slavik> Pollywog: here's the weird thing ... my XGL session with ebryl does not crash ...
[09:21] <Pollywog> I tried that
[09:21] <bafoc> Pollywog: didn't work?
[09:21] <Pollywog> didn't work
[09:22] <bafoc> Pollywog: hmm
[09:22] <bafoc> try #beryl
[09:22] <Pollywog> tnx
[09:22] <Pollywog> maybe it works in Gnome
[09:22] <lemsx1> bafoc: the service name (sshd) is ok because it works fine with DNS entries and ipv4 IPs
[09:22] <bafoc> Pollywog: hey, try this... hold down your middle mouse button :-)
[09:22] <trond> Pollywog: I use firefox
[09:22] <Pollywog> trond: k
[09:23] <Louey> I am having a video reoslution issue. I have an ati radeon all in wonder 32mb vid card and i have edited my xorg file to reflect higher resolutions but it only lets me do 1078x764. how do I fix that?
[09:23] <l90bpm> gnome is what I use.. running great thus far
[09:23] <Jenn> lugod: are you still there?
[09:23] <jahernandes> hello
[09:23] <axisys> i just upgraded to fiesty.. my firefox cannot connect to the internet now.. i can ssh to remote systems fine
[09:23] <Pollywog> well the superkey is not working but this is still nice
[09:23] <lugod> Jenn: back now
[09:24] <Pollywog> glad I tried it
[09:24] <bafoc> axisys: check out #ubuntu+1
[09:24] <trond> Pollywog: It happens with this film for example: http://atvs.vg.no/player/kick-off/8223-kick-off-solskjaer-til-west-ha.html
[09:24] <jackson3246> what terminal tools to connect to a wireless network exist in ubuntu?
[09:24] <l90bpm> pollywog, I sent you this page didn't I?  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia
[09:24] <l90bpm> you did say nvidia, right?
[09:24] <Pollywog> l90bpm: tnx
[09:24] <Pollywog> I already had nvidia drivers installed
[09:24] <l90bpm> specifically sounded like your problem..
[09:25] <POVaddct> !info stellarium
[09:25] <ubotu> stellarium: real-time photo-realistic sky generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-1 (edgy), package size 1749 kB, installed size 3380 kB
[09:25] <qwartz> hello again, just successfully completed vmware toolbox installation. all nice, except now mouse wheel is not working anymore
[09:25] <riaal> hi, Im running ubuntu and want to install winxp for wow, how do I best do that and now damage the unbuntu install? (have a free hdd)
[09:26] <riaal> now = not
[09:26] <l90bpm> anyone actually use skype? is it worth keeping on my machine? I forgot to un-check it (it was bundled w/ some stuff)
[09:26] <bluecode> I'va installed a Ubuntu on an AMD64 today, when I tried to configure/compile "bochs" myself, I geht the following error http://pastebin.ca/402261 . Does anyone know what's wrong?
[09:26] <mirra> is there a way to add an entry to iptables that will automatically remove it self after a certain amount of time
[09:26] <bafoc> l90bpm: I use skype for work ( work requires us to use it ).
[09:27] <Pollywog> trond: I do not see the video either
[09:27] <Pollywog> too bad I don't understand Norwegian
[09:27] <trond> Pollywog: Than you have the same problem :)
[09:27] <Pollywog> yes
[09:27] <rickyfingers> anyone here know if beyrl can work with two monitors?
[09:27] <Dante123> hi all....I have a macally USB Floppy Drive (originally for Mac but works under Windows xp too).....what do I need to do so that Ubuntu sees it?
[09:27] <sethk> bluecode, most likely you haven't installed the dev tools.  they aren't installed for the default desktop install.  apt-get install development-essential
[09:27] <trond> I think it is wmv
[09:27] <sethk> bluecode, use sudo
[09:27] <l90bpm> well we already have vonage in the home.. that is our landline..  but I figured it can't hurt to have a "just in case" on the pc
[09:27] <bafoc> Pollywog: trond: I believe youtube uses flash or something
[09:27] <riaal> Anyone? tip on how to install winxp and ubuntu at the same time
[09:28] <sethk> rickyfingers, sure, any linux can work with two monitors
[09:28] <trond> bafoc: Yes
[09:28] <Pollywog> mplayer comes up and says it can't initialize
[09:28] <bafoc> Pollywog: trond: worked for me :-)
[09:28] <Pollywog> bafoc: I can see other videos
[09:28] <trond> bafoc: I suspect this being wmv or some shit. I should ignore those pages really :)
[09:28] <Pollywog> just not that one
[09:28] <sethk> riaal, I think you mean on the same machine.
[09:28] <trond> Bafoc: Are you able to see which plugins that are in use?
[09:28] <Pollywog> maybe we need the codecs?
[09:28] <lemsx1> bafoc: thanks a billion sir! the syntax is: sshd: [ipv6] /64
[09:28] <sethk> riaal, not "install at the same time"  :)
[09:28] <sethk> riaal, install windows first
[09:28] <lemsx1> bafoc: and then from the client: ssh -6 ipv6%eth0
[09:29] <bafoc> lemsx1: sweet... np anytime
[09:29] <Dante123> any ideas on getting USB floppy to work under Ubuntu??
[09:29] <bafoc> trond: let me see
[09:29] <riaal> sethk, already have ubuntu on it
[09:29] <sethk> riaal, windows doesn't like to be anywhere other than the first partition
[09:29] <l90bpm> How-To: Get Full Multimedia Support and Playback Capabilities in Ubuntu Desktop Linux http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[09:29] <Ash-Fox> sethk, that's not true.
[09:30] <harry_> How do i do remote desktops?
[09:30] <|thunder> sup all, what app do I need to burn dvd files? (not iso)  video_ts  vob's and so forth. ?
[09:30] <cyphase> Anyone know if displayconfig-gtk has a chance of being pre-installed in Feisty?
[09:30] <riaal> sethk, It will have to manage, how to do whit the boot client
[09:30] <bafoc> trond: I have mplayer plugins for firefox...
[09:30] <sethk> Ash-Fox, about windows?  yes, it's absolutely true of certain versions of windows
[09:30] <bafoc> trond: that maybe why I can view it
[09:30] <harry_> the computers don't recognise eachother over the network
[09:30] <trond> bafoc: Strange because I have that one too
[09:30] <Pollywog> I have the plugins too
[09:30] <sethk> riaal, after installing windows, boot the live cd and reinstall grub.  you'll have to add windows to the grub config file
[09:30] <Ash-Fox> Ones that are over a decade? sure... But the ones that are still supported aren't.
[09:30] <bafoc> trond: do you have totem plugins as well?
[09:31] <trond> Tried to reinstall it also, think I have the w32codecs as well (can play mp3, wmv etc locally)
[09:31] <Pollywog> mplayer comes up but then can't play them but it plays other videos
[09:31] <riaal> sethk, live cd? =S
[09:31] <sethk> Ash-Fox, not true.  You are believing what the docs say.  The docs lie.
[09:31] <bafoc> trond: hmm
[09:31] <Pollywog> I saw the Beryl videos and a Katy Couric one
[09:31] <Ash-Fox> winxp is the oldest version of windows that is still supported properly.
[09:31] <l90bpm> nobody seems to like the 3 step method
[09:31] <Dante123> lsusb shows the following:  Bus 002 Device 004: ID 03ee:6901 Mitsumi SmartDisk FDD
[09:31] <Dante123> how do I get this usb floppy to work
[09:32] <Pollywog> 3 step method?  is that for ppl addicted to Microsoft?
[09:32] <sethk> Dante123, enable (or load the module for) usb floppy support
[09:32] <l90bpm> <----hates microsoft
[09:32] <abo> do you guys have stability issues with Flash plugin in Firefox?
[09:32] <Ash-Fox> win2k is unsupported, winxp and winxp sp1 is unsupported -- Unless you want to count that really expensive 'extended support' that can only be afforded by large corporations as support.
[09:32] <riaal> <----- Loves wow
[09:32] <sethk> Ash-Fox, well, I'd have to argue.  no version of windows is supported properly
[09:32] <Dante123> sorry for being a newbie....but do I run a modprobe command to do that?
[09:32] <bafoc> abo: nope... not yet anyway
[09:33] <sethk> Dante123, you need to know the name of the driver.  then it's just    modprobe drivername.
[09:33] <sethk> Dante123, I'll see if I have the driver name handy
[09:33] <mrpoundsign> anyone know what module created /dev/disk ?
[09:33] <Mus|work> Where can i find the place to set default apps to certain file extensions such as .mp3 .ogg and .(movie files) ?
[09:33] <qwartz> mouse wheel does not work after vmware toolbox installation, can any1 help?
[09:33] <Dante123> thanks sethk
[09:33] <holzmodem> is it possible to load a cutomized dsdt table with initramfs in feisty h5 ??
[09:33] <sethk> Mus|work, doesn't work that way.  Files have meta-information, but the extension is not significant
[09:34] <jahernandes> hello, i'm new to ubuntu (windows users for 15+ years). I'm having a little problem with the sound drivers of ubuntu. Anyone can help?
[09:34] <Mus|work> sethk - i see, so for each file i have to right click and choose which player i want?
[09:34] <sethk> Mus|work, no, you can set a player for a file type
[09:34] <Mus|work> how and where? :)
[09:34] <sethk> Mus|work, not for an extension.  I believe there is a config dialog for gnome to set it  (I use KDE which is why I'm fudging)
[09:34] <blackheart> Short Question : Can someone tell me if i can remove a Desktop Link to an HDD cause i dont need them  and wanna get rid of them
[09:34] <Mus|work> i see, good to know thanks
[09:35] <IdleOne> blackheart, you can
[09:35] <sethk> someone tell Mus|work where applications to file type configuration lives in gnome?
[09:35] <blackheart> ^^  so  plz tell me how  ^^
[09:35] <sethk> blackheart, the link is just a pointer, deleting it doesn't do anything dangerous.
[09:35] <IdleOne> blackheart, right click and delete. it's just a shortcut no harm in removing
[09:36] <blackheart> cant delete it  with  Del
[09:36] <blackheart> it gives me an error message
[09:36] <riaal> So, Im running ubuntu now, Install windowsxp on a ntfs partion, run "live cd" and reinstall grub. then boot linux and add windows to the conf file of grup? is this the way to install winxp after ubuntu?
[09:36] <|thunder> heres a brain stunner, what would cause my screensaver(set to blank) to use 100% of my CPU ? no distributed computing action, and beagle only takes so long to index. I can leave for 12 hrs and it still is maxxd. how?
[09:36] <l90bpm> is something in the drive?
[09:36] <|thunder> riaal; yep
[09:36] <Dante123> sethk.....any ideas on how to get this usb to work  (thanks in advance)
[09:37] <l90bpm> oops.. thought it was an optical drive.. my bad
[09:37] <riaal> |thunder, live cd is what I installed ubntu whit in the first place?
[09:37] <blackheart> My drives are full with junk  ^^
[09:37] <jvolkman> |thunder, I have that problem too
[09:37] <merc> im doing a dist upgrade (via update-manager -c -d), and it's stuck on 'configuring libgstreamer' step, what should i do? (or what is safe?)
[09:37] <Slart> |thunder: hmm.. not running hardware accelerated graphics perhaps?
[09:37] <sethk> Dante123, I'm looking ... you need usb-storage, and a second one I'm still looking for
[09:37] <Kazz> Can anyone tell me what the best way is to move the root filesystem ( / ) to a new partition?
[09:37] <|thunder> slart, i am, nvidia with latest drivers.
[09:37] <Slart> |thunder: hmm.. weird.. what screensaver?
[09:38] <Dante123> thanks sethk......not trying to be impatient......
[09:38] <sethk> Dante123, maybe you don't need the additional one any more.  Do lsmod to see if usb-storage is loaded.  If not, do modprobe usb-storage.  Usually, though, it would be loaded automatically when the device is connected to the usb bus.
[09:38] <bafoc> Kazz: yes, reinstall to that partition
[09:38] <Slart> |thunder: I'll give it a try and see how much cpu it uses for me
[09:38] <Slart> |thunder: if you have 2 boxes you could always ssh from the other one and use htop or something to see if it's really the screensaver being busy
[09:38] <riaal> |thunder, ?
[09:38] <|thunder> Slart; thanks
[09:39] <Kazz> bafoc: I don't think that is an option because it is an EVMS/LVM/RAID partition and I don't think the live CD will even recognize it.
[09:39] <|thunder> Slart; riaal i only have one box here. or i would have done that
[09:39] <sethk> Kazz, you would have to insert modules into the running kernel, but once you do that the live cd will see it.
[09:39] <Kazz> I know it's possible to move it, but every place I see seems to give a different way of copying the files to the new partition, and I don't know which is the best way.
[09:40] <Noah0504> Hello all.
[09:40] <Slart> |thunder: what screensaver are you running?
[09:40] <Mus|work> Anyone use a Neomagic videocard on their laptops? id like to know where i can get the latest drivers for this card in ubuntu
[09:40] <Dante123> I ran lsmod...and this came up....as one entry......usbcore               134912  6 usb_storage,libusual,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[09:40] <Dante123> does that look right?
[09:40] <|thunder> Slart; blank
[09:40] <Tchaka> hi everyone!
[09:40] <riaal> Is "live cd" what I installed ubuntu whit if the first place? A bootable install cd?
[09:40] <Noah0504> riaal: Yes.
[09:40] <Kazz> sethk: Well, maybe I'll try that then, but I'd rather just move what I have if I can, so I wouldn't have to download a lot of updates again.
[09:41] <bluecode> sethk, apt-get says that there is no development-essential paket
[09:41] <sethk> Dante123, yes.  the additional modules listed just means that they have dependencies on one another
[09:41] <Kazz> sethk: Do you know exactly which modules I'd have to load?
[09:41] <riaal> Noah0504, thanks
[09:41] <lderan> heya all :)
[09:41] <Kazz> riaal: Yes, the live CD is probably what you installed from.
[09:41] <sethk> bluecode, double check the spelling, because I just installed it an hour ago.
[09:41] <|thunder> Kazz; buil-essencial
[09:41] <|thunder> buiold
[09:41] <|thunder> argh
[09:41] <|thunder> build
[09:42] <Kazz> |thunder: ...that's a kernel module?
[09:42] <Slart> |thunder: well.. that's as not cpu intensive as it gets =)... it's not some other software doing something when the computer is idle? some indexing? something else?
[09:42] <sethk> bluecode, sorry, I have to check MY spelling
[09:42] <mithya> Hello everyone, I am having problems running the Live CD.  I can get it to boot up to the point after I press enter on Install/Run Ubuntu, then it runs for a short while with the bar moving left and right and locks up.  I cannot eject the CD nor restart my computer without a cold boot.  Any ideas?  Is this common?
[09:42] <sethk> bluecode, it's build-essential.   sorry about that.
[09:42] <Dante123> okay seth....so it seems to be there...now here is the next trick
[09:42] <Kazz> Okay, you were talking to someone else...heh. :)
[09:42] <sethk> Kazz, no, I don't know the modules names off the top of my head.  Can you do an lsmod on a box that sees the devices?
[09:42] <Mus|work> Anyone use a Neomagic videocard on their laptops? id like to know where i can get the latest drivers for this card in ubuntu
[09:42] <erichj> mithya: did you check cd integrity?
[09:43] <riaal> Kazz, "Ubuntu Edgy-386 Alternate"
[09:43] <riaal> ?
[09:43] <Dante123> this floppy is an 800k (double density) mac disk......there is some command to get linux to read such floppies.....but I don't know what it is....any ideas?
[09:43] <bluecode> sethk, nevermind :)
[09:43] <|thunder> Slart; im sure i have nothing that runs behind the screensaver, its mind boggling
[09:43] <POVaddct> Dante123: old macintosh formatted disks can't be read by pc floppy drives
[09:43] <sethk> Dante123, you need support for mac file systems in the kernel.  you probably have to modprobe the driver for the file system(s)
[09:44] <POVaddct> Dante123: it is a physically different format
[09:44] <Slart> |thunder: it's not some kind of sleep mode where the computer is lowering the frequency of the cpu?
[09:44] <sethk> POVaddct, how old?  The new ones work, I know
[09:44] <POVaddct> sethk: i'm afraid that is not a matter of filesystem only
[09:44] <Slart> |thunder: that would give you a higher load if you count percentages
[09:44] <mithya> erichj: I had a similar problem with the running of the downloaded ISO image, so I ordered the Live CD directly from Ubuntu.
[09:44] <POVaddct> sethk: 800k disk sounds very old
[09:44] <|thunder> Slart; nope, my speeds are displayed right on the front of my case
[09:44] <sethk> POVaddct, ok.  I never really used apple stuff before osx
[09:45] <bigcx2> hey all
[09:45] <mithya> erichj: and am now running from the Live CD that they provided me via the mail.
[09:45] <beni> what is the command to show the OS information like version etc?
[09:45] <Dante123> guys...this IS a mac usb floppy drive
[09:45] <bigcx2> has anyone gotten vncserver to work under edgy???
[09:45] <_Jaak_> "chmod +x filename" should make a file executable right?
[09:45] <mithya> erichj: or rather, trying to run it :D
[09:45] <beni> _Jaak_: yes
[09:45] <|thunder> Slart; no cpu scaling. i think ssh'n in would be the only option.
[09:45] <Slart> |thunder: ok.. last idea then.. a broken power save module in ubuntu.. that somehow just loops around when it's supposed to calm down
[09:45] <erichj> mithya: well i can tell  you that none of the cd's i was sent by shipit worked for me
[09:45] <_Jaak_> beni. why doesnt it work then?
[09:45] <mweichert> when I attempt to connect to a samba share on a windows domain using nautilus, I am asked for my credentials - but the workgroup defaults to "WORKGROUP" - how do I change that?
[09:45] <Dante123> and there is a command...some guy in here told me before...but I forget the syntax.....something like -t hfs or something like that
[09:45] <erichj> i just burned my own
[09:45] <mithya> erichj: ok I will run the CD check, thanks
[09:46] <POVaddct> sethk: old mac floppies are like native amiga floppies. pc floppy drives don't use variable drive speed and such things
[09:46] <erichj> welcome
[09:46] <bluecode> sethk, that did the job, thank you very much :)
[09:46] <Kazz> sethk: Yeah, I guess I'll just have to save a list of what's loaded and try to load all of them if I can't remember which are necessary.
[09:46] <bigcx2> when i run vncserver i get: xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name "darter:1" in "add" command
[09:46] <Slart> |thunder: or something that took repeated snapshots of cpu acitivity.. perhaps a bash script with some top magic?
[09:46] <beni> _Jaak_: or just "sh yourfile.sh"
[09:46] <beni> both should work
[09:46] <sethk> Kazz, hopefully it will be easy to see which ones you care about, because they have dependencies on each other.
[09:46] <Dante123> it is old.....but I need the data on that darn thing.....
[09:46] <beni> what is the command to show my ubuntu version?
[09:47] <Kazz> sethk: I'd really rather just move the filesystem though and not go through the install and all the updates again (I'm using Feisty)...I'll try again to figure out how to copy it right first.
[09:47] <Death_Sargent> I acidentally made my sudoers file read only to root how can i fix this
[09:47] <_Jaak_> if i do "sudo chmod +x myfile" and go check the files permissions by rightclicking it properties->rights... it doesn't say it's executable
[09:47] <POVaddct> Dante123: like i said its not a matter of file system. the pc drive cannot physically read it. different magnetic storage method.
[09:47] <eilker>   i type // # !bin/sh  (then second line) sudo reboot // and chmod +x reboot.sh in console. after all double click to reboot.sh no sense ? what is wrong ?
[09:47] <|thunder> Slart; i'll have to look through my run levels and chack for anything that does not belong, as well as my gnome startups
[09:47] <beni> _Jaak_: dont do sudo
[09:47] <beni> just chmod +x
[09:47] <linux1> hiya ppl i keep getting this error when i try to run git  /usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied.   any idea whats up
[09:47] <erichj> death: log as root and chmod it
[09:47] <|thunder> Slart; thanks for the ideas though, much appreciated.
[09:47] <Death_Sargent> I acidentally made my sudoers file read only to root how can i fix this
[09:47] <erichj> death: log as root and chmod it
[09:47] <Slart> |thunder: you're welcome.. hope you solve it
[09:47] <Death_Sargent> what is the chmod settings
[09:48] <Death_Sargent> ###
[09:48] <erichj> or chown
[09:48] <|thunder> lol
[09:48] <bafoc> chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[09:48] <erichj> chown to admin group
[09:49] <mweichert> after the default install of ubuntu, how do you change what samba workgroup you are a "member" of?
[09:49] <bigcx2> has anyone succesfully run vncserver under ubuntu in here????
[09:49] <mweichert> if I try to connect to a share, I see that "workgroup" is the default
[09:49] <Death_Sargent> still not working
[09:49] <mhall53> whats the command to install kubuntu
[09:49] <halino> hello
[09:49] <Dante123> POVaddct.....I don't mean to contradict you.....but another person in here gave me a command to use...and it actually partially worked.....there was an error...but the problem was due to where ubuntu has media versys dev/mnt/floppy or something like that....
[09:49] <apokryphos> mhall53: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.
[09:49] <Death_Sargent> i tried it and it still is not working
[09:49] <bafoc> Death_Sargent: what's the error
[09:49] <halino> I have a controller connected through USB
[09:50] <erichj> mhall: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <halino> how can I check if it works properly=?
[09:50] <Death_Sargent> gedit sais it can not open the display
[09:50] <POVaddct> Dante123: is your floppy drive usb?
[09:50] <bafoc> Death_Sargent: are you root?
[09:50] <eilker>   i type // # !bin/sh  (then second line) sudo reboot // and chmod +x reboot.sh in console. after all , double click to reboot.sh no sense ? what is wrong ?
[09:50] <Death_Sargent> no i am using a root terminal
[09:51] <Death_Sargent> never mind it worked
[09:51] <Death_Sargent> shitty terminal window
[09:51] <Death_Sargent> thanks all
[09:52] <|thunder> netsplit, whew
[09:52] <Slart> |thunder: top -b will just output the process list... if I were you I'd do a "top -b -n 30 -d 1 | less", put the computer to sleep..wake it up after 10-15 secs and see what happened
[09:52] <Ash-Fox> For those of you who are having problems with Wine's official repository for edgy (bad dependency issues). I have fixed the package myself and uploaded it to my own repository, you can add my repository via: sudo bash -c 'echo deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/ >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:53] <|thunder> slart, brilliant
[09:53] <Dante123> yes, it is a usb floppy (originally made for mac but works under windows xp)
[09:53] <mweichert> how do I configure the samba client in Ubuntu?
[09:54] <RolandB1> hello, is any doc howto update from dapper to edgy please.
[09:55] <erichj> check the ubuntu wiki
[09:55] <posingaspopular> !update
[09:55] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:55] <Slart> |thunder: hmm... adding a -i to that top line makes it ignore idle processes.. shortens the list quite a bit
[09:55] <g0ng> can somebody help with ATI drivers and xorg?
[09:57] <POVaddct> Dante123: aha. if it was made for mac, chances are good it actually can read the floppy
[09:57] <Mus|work> This is funny :) i have a neomagic video card in this laptop - yet my xorg.conf file says its a S3 Savage card... Hmm?
[09:57] <nhy> If I install Linux on a computer with two partitions (one has Windows and one is blank) will it automatically create a dual booting environment ?
[09:57] <POVaddct> Dante123: is it plugged in right now?
[09:57] <l90bpm> hey pollywog, did you see within the settings of beryl where you could enable a crash handler?
[09:58] <janga> nhy , yes
[09:58] <waxyfresh> whats the normal speed of dsl?
[09:58] <l90bpm> about 1.5 megs here
[09:58] <beni> waxyfresh: depends on the connection type^^
[09:58] <l90bpm> that is not what we have
[09:58] <nhy> thanks
[09:58] <beni> waxyfresh: we got 1mbit here
[09:58] <Slart> waxyfresh: anything from 0.5 mbit to 30-ish ?
[09:58] <Giotto> hi all. how do i suggest ubuntu6,10 with the gnome-gui on a "maxtor 450G" to accept 2 connected 19"-crt-screens as one big and not as clones each other? Ive tried the ubuntu documentation and to google for "twinview ubuntu" and "two screens ubuntu one card" but found nothing helpful.
[09:58] <beni> Slart: at least 1 mbit
[09:59] <l90bpm> but that is through embarq
[09:59] <waxyfresh> would the fact that i have OLD wireing in my hose slow it down?
[09:59] <Slart> beni: why? I've seen dsl solutions with 0.25 Mbit
[09:59] <l90bpm> I have charter's 10 meg cuz I really do love my puter'
[09:59] <whtvrrob> hey all
[09:59] <nhy> and is there any chance of losing the information on the Windows partition if I format that blank partition for Linux?
[09:59] <beni> Slart: really? here in europe (germany) DSL means at least 1024 kb/s
[09:59] <harry_> can I get an RSS/Atom reader in a GNOME bar?
[09:59] <nhy> Do I need to back up?
[09:59] <l90bpm> wow, must be nice'
[09:59] <eV_64> umm, you should always have backups anways
[10:00] <waxyfresh> would the fact that i have OLD wireing in my house slow my dsl speed down?
[10:00] <eV_64> hard drives dont last forever
[10:00] <nhy> its not my computer
[10:00] <nhy> its a friends
[10:00] <eV_64> yes, dsl speed can be dependent on line quality
[10:00] <beni> waxyfresh: no
[10:00] <erichj> i have 5mb through embarq here in missouri
[10:00] <l90bpm> I knew it varied, just had no idea to what degree
[10:00] <Slart> beni: oh? no such thing in sweden.. I'm pretty sure dsl only determines how the connection is made.. we talk about broadband and some government agency once said that broadband has to be >2Mbit
[10:00] <whtvrrob> nhy as long as you do it properly, while there is a slim margin whenever working on those things, it shouldn't do anything, but as eV_64 says, you should have backups, or your friend should, but i've formatted it for linux multiple times without any loss ever
[10:00] <beni> waxyfresh: in case it isnt older than 100 years :>
[10:00] <nhy> he's concerned about windows genuin advantage
[10:00] <waxyfresh> eV_64: even if the line is only 100 feet long?
[10:00] <Zambezi> Anyone with UPS to Ubuntu and know which one work easily?
[10:00] <eV_64> if you have old phone wires, or wires running near electrical lines, flourescent lights, etc move them
[10:00] <waxyfresh> oh
[10:00] <eV_64> 100ft long from where?
[10:00] <bafoc> Death_Sargent: you can't run programs as root (X programs) while logged in as a normal user unless at a terminal you run xhost + as the normal user then su in that same terminal
[10:01] <eV_64> the box on the side of your house?
[10:01] <l90bpm> I live in Bristol, TN  we don't have much but a race track
[10:01] <beni> Slart: okay i get you point, here in germany DSL is advertised beginning at 1mbit
[10:01] <bafoc> Death_Sargent: sorry for the late reply.... got caught up with the boss man
[10:01] <eV_64> it's probably OK, make sure you have the dsl filters on your phones though
[10:01] <janga> nhy, the partitioning program in the ubuntu installer is easy to understand, as long as you dont format the win partition, everything will be ok.
[10:01] <Sophistication> Zambezi: APC via USB
[10:01] <eV_64> all phones, faxes, modems, etc
[10:01] <ferronica> when i installed Azureus via terminal along with it Mozillia installed what i do???
[10:02] <l90bpm> anyway.. just came back to say that crash handler might be a good thing in beryl
[10:02] <waxyfresh> eV_64: my computer to the wall to the box(never even seen a phone box like it its so old)to teh pole
[10:02] <ferronica> i mean mozilla browswer which i dont use
[10:02] <sethk> ferronica, why do you think you have to do something?
[10:02] <Slart> beni: hmrpf.. I wish they'd just get together and agree about these things.. would be easier for everyone
[10:02] <eV_64> are you asking because it's really slow?
[10:02] <Zambezi> Sophistication, Do you know if it works on a server without X?
[10:02] <POVaddct> Dante123: did i overlook your reply? please prepend it with  POVaddct: so my client hilights it
[10:02] <beni> Slart: yep ...
[10:02] <whtvrrob> ferronica, i agree with sethk, just use it as is, someone may want to use it sometime, or you may
[10:02] <ferronica> sethk: i dont want mozilla, i didnt give command to install mozilla
[10:03] <Sophistication> Zambezi: if you have power management modules loaded sure
[10:03] <sethk> ferronica, it's a dependency.  the package manager installs things that you need to run the thing that you specified
[10:03] <nhy> One last question. He has an amd 64. Just out of curiosity, can he run programs built for i386
[10:03] <Slart> nhy: yes.
[10:03] <eV_64> yup
[10:03] <Trini_Man> hi
[10:03] <eV_64> hi
[10:03] <bafoc> hi
[10:03] <Sophistication> hi
[10:03] <Trini_Man> does anyone know a GUI subversion Application ?
[10:03] <nhy> but amd 64 will be faster?
[10:03] <alexfox> when i type fglrxinfo in a terminal window i get Error: unable to open display :0 anyone know how to fix this error or where i can find more information on the error
[10:03] <erichj> nhy: some are hard to get running though
[10:04] <Slart> nhy: I have an AMD 64 bit dual.. running ubuntu 64 bit and running 32 bit wine compiled for i386
[10:04] <Trini_Man> Client
[10:04] <eV_64> probs
[10:04] <RolandB1> hey should I update from dapper to edgy ?
[10:04] <l90bpm> yeah, my acer is a turion 64 but it has all 32 bit on it
[10:04] <fdan4896> Hello all!
[10:04] <sethk> RolandB1, no
[10:04] <ferronica> sethk: sudo apt-get install azureus i gave this command only
[10:04] <bafoc> TortisSVN
[10:04] <eV_64> hi hi hi
[10:04] <ferronica> sethk:
[10:04] <Zambezi> Sophistication, Sounds great. Thanks! Now I just have to decide if it's worth it, but I think it is. I have 500W PSU, but 400W should be fine.
[10:04] <sethk> ferronica, yes, and?
[10:04] <ucordes> is there something in the repositories for cutting mpg4 videos?
[10:04] <nhy> are amd 64 compiled programs faster?
[10:04] <sethk> ferronica, the package manager installs things needed by what you told it to install
[10:04] <RolandB1> sethk : why? can you say it in 2-3 words ?
[10:04] <Trini_Man> hi does anyone know if a GUI  Subversion Client ? for Gnome ?
[10:04] <sethk> nhy, marginally
[10:04] <ferronica> sethk: it installed mozilla tooooo
[10:04] <sp0ro> Anyone around that can walk me through on how to uninstall ATI fglrx drivers and install the open source ATI drivers?I tried  rpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before I installed the fglrx drivers, but they never installed correctly.
[10:05] <nhy> thanks everyone. Ubuntu just go another user
[10:05] <ferronica> sethk: can i uninstall it
[10:05] <Marupa> Is there any media player that has a split library/playlist view?  (Such as http://files.myopera.com/Adrianox/blog/virtual%20Dj.JPG  on the bottom)
[10:05] <nhy> *got
[10:05] <sethk> ferronica, yes, of course.  that's what I've told you, now for the fourth time.  It is _supposed_ to do that.
[10:05] <ferronica> sethk: sudo apt-get remove mozilla
[10:05] <derrik> how does ubuntu create the file name for the thumbnails in ~./thumbnails/normal ?
[10:05] <Sophistication> Zambezi: anything over 500$ is nice to have via a power backup you would be amazed at the brown power & spikes that go through pc without one
[10:05] <sethk> ferronica, only if you want the thing you installed to stop working
[10:05] <Trini_Man> hi does anyone know if a GUI  Subversion Client ? for Gnome ?
[10:05] <ferronica> sethk: Recommended packages:  java-package libswt3.1-gtk-gcj mozilla-psm
[10:05] <sethk> ferronica, yes, and?
[10:06] <bafoc> Trini_Man: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/
[10:06] <eV_64> http://jsvn.alternatecomputing.com/ ?
[10:06] <erichj> trini_man: yes - applications->add/remove  should be  under utils
[10:06] <Trini_Man> ok thanks i wil look
[10:06] <ferronica> sethk: shows me up before installing, if i remove mozilla will azureus work
[10:06] <bafoc> eV_64: eww, java svn client :-
[10:06] <manopulus> hello, i need help ;) i installed dapper, it is clean install, and now i want to upgrade to edgy.... well, but sudo command does not work, it asking for a root password, whch is dummy and i cannot follow any command, even to change apt.conf
[10:06] <neo_> hi
[10:06] <ucordes> !video
[10:06] <bafoc> eV_64: j/k
[10:06] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:06] <eV_64> lol, first google result
[10:06] <eV_64> i've never used it
[10:06] <bafoc> eV_64: hehe
[10:07] <sethk> ferronica, probably not.  It's installed because azureus has a dependency on it.
[10:07] <sp0ro> Anyone around that can walk me through on how to uninstall ATI fglrx drivers and install the open source ATI drivers?I tried  rpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before I installed the fglrx drivers, but they never installed correctly.
[10:07] <Slart> manopulus: it doesn't ask for a root password.. it asks for your user password
[10:07] <eV_64> how do i make it show your nick first ie eV64:****
[10:07] <erichj> manopulus: sudo password is your password
[10:07] <bafoc> eV_64: me either, I really don't like java apps :-)
[10:07] <eV_64> do you type it?
[10:07] <ferronica> sethk: that what i wanna to know.
[10:07] <priich> So i installed this adsl modem/switch/bridge/NAT thingiemabob and set it in bridged mode. Now i can't find it. Is there any command to do network discovery to find out what ip address it has ? (and no googling gave only bad leads and the ip addy in the manual doesn't do it.)   Maybe some broadcast ping or something ?
[10:07] <manopulus> erichj: thanks
[10:07] <neo_> hi i got a question i stopped apache (dum thing to do but how do i start it?)????
[10:07] <shane634> sp0ro, yep i can help
[10:07] <eV_64> apache2 up
[10:07] <neo_> apache2
[10:07] <neo_> yes
[10:07] <ferronica> sethk: because i use firefox not mozilla
[10:07] <bafoc> neo_ /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:07] <neo_> but its shutdown
[10:07] <sethk> ferronica, either you need it, or the dependency info in the package is wrong.  The former is much more likely thatn the latter
[10:07] <Slart> neo_ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start perhaps?
[10:07] <neo_> thanxs :)
[10:07] <pentarim> does anyone know a repository where i could get php 5.1.2?
[10:08] <bafoc> neo_ : sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:08] <neo_> you to
[10:08] <neo_> i'l try
[10:08] <sethk> ferronica, I use firefox also.  Having mozilla installed on the machine doesn't cause any problems.
[10:08] <whtvrrob> also, if you don't know the root password, sudo passwd is your friend to change it
[10:08] <preaction> priich: bridged mode implies that it HAS no IP address. anything that goes in on one port goes out on another port unmolested
[10:08] <erichj> pentarim: multiverse has it i believe
[10:08] <ferronica> sethk: can i try to remove mozilla
[10:08] <neo_> ty
[10:08] <neo_> neo@x4fs:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:08] <neo_> Password:
[10:08] <neo_>  * Starting web server (Apache2)...                                      [ ok ] 
[10:08] <neo_> neo@x4fs:~$
[10:08] <alexfox> http://www.ubuntuguide.org is very useful
[10:08] <neo_> :)
[10:08] <Zambezi> Sophistication, The problem is I want one for two computer, preferable four, but then it's going to be too expensive.
[10:08] <preaction> you should never need a root password. use sudo -s; or sudo su -
[10:08] <RolandB1> sethk : I've saw on edgy some gui for installing ati drivers... can it be installed that on dapper? ( ubuntu-restricted-..)
[10:08] <sethk> ferronica, sure, you can try.  if az stops working, you can reinstall it.
[10:09] <trond> Is it possible to test if tightvnc works from the same computer as the server is running?
[10:09] <sethk> RolandB1, I haven't tried, so I'm not sure.  I'd guess yes, but it's just a guess.
[10:09] <ferronica> sethk: okay
[10:09] <Sophistication> Zambezi: not really I have a APC rated at 765 watts & I have a Mac Pro with a 600 watt ps jacked in the power unit is only using around 175 during normal use
[10:09] <sp0ro> shane634: Ok, first things first. How do I go about completely uninstalling the fglrx drivers?
[10:09] <whtvrrob> preaction, i just like to have it just in case, but of course it's a secure password that's not written down anywhere, it's one of those things, always nice to have the root password
[10:09] <trond> i.e. can I launch vncviewer and connect to the server directly from my computer or do I have to do that externally?
[10:09] <whtvrrob> at least to me
[10:09] <bafoc> trond: no, unless you start another X manager on a different Display like :1 ( the default is :0)
[10:09] <Sophistication> Zambezi: you could get a rated unit around 700ish & jack like 3 or 4 into it if you do the math & don't use sleep
[10:10] <preaction> trond: vncviewer localhost; <- yes
[10:10] <trond> aha
[10:10] <shane634> sp0ro, right click my name and click dialog
[10:10] <Sophistication> Zambezi: sleep is a killer for realla
[10:10] <Giotto> how do i suggest ubuntu6,10 with the gnome-gui on a "maxtor 450G" to accept 2 connected 19"-crt-screens as one big and not as clones each other? Ive tried the ubuntu documentation and to google for "twinview ubuntu" and "two screens ubuntu one card" but found nothing helpful.
[10:10] <bafoc> preaction: really? wow, never tried that. :-)
[10:10] <Marupa> So does anyone know of a media player that does that?
[10:10] <trond>  shutdown
 ferronica, either you need it, or the dependency info in the package is wrong.  The former is much more likely thatn the latter
 neo_ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start perhaps?
[10:10] <trond> Sorry
[10:10] <sp0ro> shane634: Ok, did you get my message?
[10:10] <Slart> trond: huh?
[10:10] <trond> vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[10:10] <trond> Unable to connect to VNC server
[10:10] <sp0ro> shane634: Ah, sec let me auth :)
[10:11] <sethk> trond, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  If the vnc on the target machine is running, then you launch the client from your machine and connect.  there isn't a third machine involved.
[10:11] <preaction> trond: probably means the server isn't set up properly
[10:11] <trond> That was the thing I wanted to paste. Not very informative
[10:11] <shane634> sp0ro, ok
[10:11] <ferronica> sethk: gettin error
[10:11] <preaction> trond: or you have a firewall blocking the port
[10:11] <eV64> basic IRC question, how do i prefix my message with someone's nick in here?
[10:11] <ferronica> sethk: when i try to remove
[10:11] <pentarim> does anyone know a repository where i could get php 5.1.2? i am googling over 2 hours have  mercy :)
[10:11] <preaction> eV64: type the first few letters and hit the "Tab" key
[10:11] <erichj> you type their name first
[10:11] <eV64> aah cool
[10:11] <Marupa> eV64, if you're on mIRC or xchat, start typing then hit tab.
[10:11] <ferronica> sethk: Package mozilla is not installed, so not removed
[10:11] <ferronica> E: Couldn't find package web
[10:11] <trond> Sethk: I am running a vnc server at a single computer (computer 1) can I access the server with vncviewer from Computer 1? :)
[10:11] <eV64> preaction: cool
[10:11] <Zambezi> Sophistication, I saw one now for 3000 SEK (about 425 USD). That one would be awesome, but acctually I just need for three, maybe, but probably three.
[10:12] <qwehnce> after completing the latest kernel updates for feisty, my sound does not work
[10:12] <dougie> alright i have this problem where somtimes when my screen saver is comming on its like my video card turns off my screen just turns solid black or white..i thought it was a problem with my video card over heating but i just fixed that problem and it still happens
[10:12] <IndyGunFreak> erichj: you don't need to type their whole name
[10:12] <eV64> preaction: thanks
[10:12] <POVaddct> eV64: most clients allow the TAB key to complete nicknames
[10:12] <preaction> qwehnce: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[10:12] <sp0ro> shane634: Did you get my message?
[10:12] <erichj> IndyGunFreak:  yeah i know
[10:12] <sethk> trond, you want to run vnc client and vnc server on the same machine and have them talk to each other?  Why?
[10:12] <trond> preaction: hmm, I don't have a personal firewall maybe something my ISP is doing?
[10:12] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[10:12] <meme-1> Anyone out there familiar with Amaya (version 9.51). It starts up for about 1 second and disappears in ubuntu.
[10:12] <fdan4896> I am new to Ubuntu and Linux. Just put 6.1 (Edgy?) Desktop on one PC and the server version on another PC.
[10:12] <eV64> preaction: is xchat the best irc client on edgy, cause i've already crashed it a few times
[10:12] <preaction> trond: it never gets to your ISP
[10:12] <Sophistication> Zambezi: the 3 you have have what type of CPU & Ram & Power supplys & Hard Drives & any raid?
[10:12] <preaction> trond: localhost is localhost
[10:12] <erichj> eV64: i use Konversation
[10:12] <POVaddct> eV64: i like irssi
[10:12] <meme-1> preaction: What about Konversation?
[10:12] <trond> Sethk; In order to test if it works. Of course I intend to use it from other computers :)
[10:13] <fdan4896> Any reason not to run a GUI on a server? If not a problem, which is best for server, Gnome or KDE?
[10:13] <meme-1> That is what I am using
[10:13] <POVaddct> eV64: irssi is text based though
[10:13] <Zambezi> Sophistication, Can we continue in PM? It's easier to follow.
[10:13] <sethk> trond, I've never tried doing it that way, and I would be extremely surprised if it works.
[10:13] <trond> But just to test if the server is setup correct (which it is not)
[10:13] <erichj> fdan4896: GUI hogs resources on a server
[10:13] <eV64> text based still scares me
[10:13] <trond> Sethk: ok
[10:13] <Sophistication> Zambezi: only if you bring beer ;P
[10:13] <bafoc> pentarim: you may want to look at this - http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Apache_and_PHP
[10:13] <trond> preaction:hmm that indicates that the server is not setup correct hmm
[10:13] <shane634> sp0ro,  are you in private now?
[10:14] <Helmi> hmm is there a way to mount or  extract an img-image?
[10:14] <chainsawdude> i can connect to secure https:// websites on my laptop using ubuntu but not normal http:// ones, any idea why this is?
[10:14] <POVaddct> eV64: text tools are very powerful. and running things in screen(1) is even more powerful :] 
[10:14] <sp0ro> shane634: Yes, I sent you a message
[10:14] <fdan4896> erichj: thanks. that was my best guess, but I am still feeling my way through the text based commands. Have done in it DOS years ago, but never extensively in Unix or Linux.
[10:14] <bafoc> Helmi: all depends on what type of image your talking about
[10:14] <POVaddct> fdan4896: you can't compare DOS to the unix command line
[10:14] <Helmi> bafoc: don't know how it was made - just see the ending *.img
[10:15] <bafoc> Helmi: what's the file name?
[10:15] <slvmchn> which desktop is the most efficient between fluxbuntu and xubuntu
[10:15] <bafoc> Helmi: some .img files are for Mac
[10:15] <eV64> POVaddct: i know, text based is superior, i'm still making the transition
[10:15] <bafoc> Helmi: some are compresses cpio images
[10:15] <dyrne> fdan4896: if you need gui id just install xubuntu instead of gnome or kde.
[10:15] <eilker> is it possible to use last fm in local languages  via amarok ?
[10:15] <bafoc> Helmi: lke the linux kernel
[10:15] <|thunder> Slart; found it! its beagled. it starts even before the screensaver.
[10:15] <sethk> eV64, it's not superior and it's not inferior.  It is better suited to certain conditions, and gui is better suited to others
[10:16] <bafoc> Helmi: oops like not lke
[10:16] <Slart> |thunder: what is beagled?
[10:16] <ferronica> sethk: Package mozilla is not installed, so not removed
[10:16] <ferronica> E: Couldn't find package web
[10:16] <fdan4896> POVaddict: I realize they are not the same, but it is the closest reference I have had except for a brief visit through Unix with  previous company.
[10:16] <Helmi> bafoc: i guess it was made for windows - so shouldn't be one of either
[10:16] <|thunder> Slart; file indexer, like on the mac.
[10:16] <RolandB1> sethk : got some docs howto install the lasted stuffs on ubuntu ? (firefox and casual apl. )
[10:16] <kkerwin> Hi. Any good reccommendations for a wireless antenna to attach to a laptop? I want to extend the laptop's wireless range.
[10:16] <sethk> ferronica, are you sure that it did, in fact, install mozilla?
[10:16] <meme-1> Trying again. lol. Anyone out there familiar with Amaya (version 9.51)? It starts up for about 1 second and disappears in ubuntu. As far as I can tell, Amaya is the best equivalent to Dreamweaver for Windows (HTML/PHP editor w/WYSIWYG)
[10:16] <shane634> sp0ro, you have another chat?
[10:16] <fdan4896> dyrne: does xubuntu install on top of unbuntu server or replace it?
[10:16] <sp0ro> shane634: If you are sending me messages, I cannot see them. Do you have aim or msn by chance?
[10:16] <Slart> |thunder: ah.. well.. doesn't it stop some time?
[10:16] <jrib> kkerwin: pringles can?
[10:16] <benzin> hello new to ubuntu is there a good firewall i could use?
[10:16] <ferronica> sethk: yes
[10:16] <sethk> RolandB1, I don't have to read them anymore so I don't really know.
[10:16] <kkerwin> jrib: Seriously?
[10:16] <eV64> sethk: i think it is superior for function and speed, as long as your very familiar with the system, there is definitely a steeper learning curve
[10:16] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: i agree, cantenna
[10:16] <shane634> sp0ro, msn shane47143
[10:16] <jrib> kkerwin: google "cantenna"
[10:16] <bafoc> Helmi: ok well you can try the following. mkdir /tmp/test, then cd to where your image is and type mount -o loop filename.img /tmp/test
[10:17] <dyrne> fdan4896: it just installs an xserver on top and then xfce4 etc.
[10:17] <|thunder> Slart; you would think so, but it never seems too.
[10:17] <Jeeva> must i mount a .bin file ?
[10:17] <kkerwin> jrib: Ya. I saw it.
[10:17] <ferronica> sethk: mozilla resides in internet options
[10:17] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: www.cantenna.com
[10:17] <Jeeva> because i downloaded java virtual machine bin
[10:17] <|thunder> slart , maybe its not meant to index fat and ntfs parts
[10:17] <kkerwin> whtvrrob and jrib: Anything a little smaller?
[10:17] <Slart> |thunder: hmm.. well... sounds like it's time to find an alternative to beagle then =)...
[10:17] <bafoc> Helmi: also, to try and find out why type of file it is type - file filename.img
[10:17] <eV64> cut it shorter
[10:17] <sethk> eV64, that's muddled thinking.  On a high powered machine the gui client may run just as fast.  What really matters is the overall load on the machine, not the load of any particular program.
[10:17] <eV64> the pringles can
[10:17] <chainsawdude> i can connect to secure https:// websites on my laptop using ubuntu but not normal http:// ones, any idea why this is?
[10:17] <ferronica> sethk: mozilla composer and mozilla web browser
[10:17] <pentarim> bafoc: tnx for info, so there is no repository containing older versions of packages
[10:17] <Fuligin> hello everone, I have a question about a new installation that i did for ubuntu 6.10
[10:17] <fdan4896> dyrne: thanks for the tip. I really want to learn text based as I am sure it is much more resource friendly, but still getting my Linux legs under me.
[10:17] <ferronica> sethk: what is this
[10:17] <Slart> |thunder: mm.. that might be it.. ntfs and linux still aren't very friendly
[10:18] <linuxnewbie756> i need to learn something about port forwarding from a router. where it asks for my ip address, it hasa "192.168.1." already there, and i can enter the last three digits. i went into ifconfig, and where is the last three digits i need to enter? is it inet address or bcast? because both of those start out the same, just with different last 3 digits
[10:18] <bafoc> pentarim: not that i'm aware of
[10:18] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: does your laptop have built in wifi, or an external card
[10:18] <sethk> ferronica, well, you are discovering why I hate package managers.  I'm not sure of the reason in this particular case.
[10:18] <priich> urk. i disconnected. Anyway, so any hints on how to discover a switch on my local network ? (arp? snmp? ping broadcast ? )
[10:18] <posingaspopular> benzin, i duno if anyone answered you, but ubuntu comes with a firewall out of the box, so to speak
[10:18] <|thunder> Slart; guess so, thanks again for the help, now i know the culprit.
[10:18] <posingaspopular> you can get another one if you want....
[10:18] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: Built in. Broadcom card ...
[10:18] <Slart> |thunder: you're welcome
[10:18] <ucordes> linuxnewbie756: eh?
[10:18] <dyrne> fdan4896: well if you do server stuff youll be working in terminal regardless no reason to make it too hard on youself :)
[10:18] <jrib> kkerwin: that's all I know :/
[10:18] <POVaddct> linuxnewbie756: inet address
[10:18] <eV64> moving a mouse always seems slower than typing a word to me
[10:18] <ferronica> sethk: then what u use to install
[10:19] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: I'm wondering if I just need to pick up a high-powered wifi-usb dongle ...
[10:19] <|thunder> Slart; but its really only write support that is iffy, read to index should work flawlessly
[10:19] <Helmi> bafoc: file says "ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data"
[10:19] <bafoc> ev64: I second that :-)
[10:19] <eV64> wireless n has longer range i think
[10:19] <Apocrypha> and more bandwidth
[10:19] <benzin> posingaspopular: thanks do you how I can activate it?
[10:19] <linuxnewbie756> POVaddct, so, does .1 and .100 make any difference
[10:19] <kkerwin> jrib: Thanks for the idea. We'll see, but I might just go that route. Exploring my options. *grin*
[10:19] <sethk> ferronica, when I have problems with the package manager I install from source, however I don't recommend that until you are very familiar with the o/s
[10:19] <IgorSobreira> anybody knows how can i get all the lib to program in C....stdio.h..etc
[10:19] <POVaddct> linuxnewbie756: .1 is different from .100
[10:19] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: i personally haven't had great luck at all with wifi usb dongles i prefer pcmcia
[10:19] <bafoc> Helmi: ok, then do the command above ( mkdir /tmp/test ; mount - o loop nameofyour.img file /tmp/test
[10:19] <eV64> yeah, but for most users, wireless b is fine, everyone has speedbooster because bestbuy/ circuit city reps tell customers it will make their internets faster
[10:19] <linuxnewbie756> POVaddct, thank you.
[10:19] <fdan4896> dyrne: part of the battle I face is I am trying to convince my employer of the advantages of Linux over Windows for future servers. However, if I can't learn it pretty quick and make it useful, I will have a hard time convincing him of its worth.
[10:19] <posingaspopular> benzin, i mean,it's already activated
[10:20] <|thunder> Slart; ok, heres another question for ya. do I need an app to burn video_ts and audio_ts dirs to a dvd ?    shot in the dark.
[10:20] <bafoc> Helmi: This will mount the file. Then you can cd /tmp/test and do an ls to view the contents
[10:20] <Helmi> yeah mount was successfull
[10:20] <posingaspopular> it should just be runningin the background, keeping you safe
[10:20] <ferronica> sethk: now how to uninstall it :(
[10:20] <Helmi> looks great thanks
[10:20] <ucordes> !idva
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idva - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Fuligin> does anyone know how i can enable my artheros based wifi card on a new insall?
[10:20] <bafoc> Helmi: Np
[10:20] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: They still make those? *grin* Well, I have a PCMCIA slot. Any suggestions?
[10:20] <ucordes> !diva
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diva - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Slart> |thunder: I use brasero for all my burning needs.. haven't tried burning movies with it though
[10:20] <POVaddct> linuxnewbie756: btw, this is not linux specific. it is basic ip networking knowledge.
[10:20] <benzin> posingaspopular: i will read the manual :-) thanks
[10:20] <evand> Is there a difference between the server CD and typing "server" at the prompt of the desktop cd?
[10:20] <Slart> |thunder: gnomebaker should work too... not sure.. haven't used it that much
[10:20] <dyrne> Fuligin: try sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)   in case its not already installed
[10:20] <|thunder> Slart; ill install it now.
[10:21] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: i haven't used one in awhile, i just know i like them better, and others i know do as well, so my suggestion is just to ask around online
[10:22] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: Okie dokie. Thanks. Know of any other IRC channels that might be a good place to ask?
[10:22] <EdgEy> does anyone here know of a linux equivalent to DU Meter ? (it monitors amount of data downloaded daily, monthly, etc)
[10:22] <Fuligin> dyrne: when you say unname r u mean exaxtly as you said it or, do i need to put something in that area?
[10:22] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: sorry, i don't, i only use this one, vmware, and linuxmint.com on spotchat
[10:22] <merc> im doing a dist upgrade (via update-manager -c -d), and it's stuck on 'configuring libgstreamer' step, what should i do? (or what is safe?)
[10:22] <crdlb> Fuligin, type it exactly as he did
[10:23] <dyrne> Fuligin: yeah just cut and paste that  $() or `` designates a command  uname -r if you type it by instelf in term will show you what it puts there
[10:23] <wims> how do i find out the UUID of my partitions ?
[10:23] <kkerwin> EdgEy: You could write a script pretty easily to monitor ifconfig ... it reports how much you've d/l'ed since connecting. So, just have it make a running total, I guess ...
[10:23] <erUSUL> wims: run blikid in a terminal
[10:23] <Fuligin> cool, thanks guys i will attempt it and see wut happens, thanks for your help :)
[10:23] <evand> or vol_id
[10:23] <EdgEy> kkerwin, does ifconfig ever rollover
[10:23] <wims> erUSUL,  thanks
[10:23] <erUSUL> wims: blkid*
[10:24] <POVaddct> wims: if they are ext3 filesystem: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/<device>
[10:24] <stifler_> hi
[10:24] <kkerwin> EdgEy: Rollover, I'm not sure what you mean there. But, I believe that everytime you disconnect/reconnect, it's total resets to 0.
[10:24] <wims> erUSUL,  it only shows for my ext3 partitions, what i need it for is my ntfs partitions
[10:25] <kkerwin> EdgEy: So, you would have to check it every once in a while, say, once a minute.
[10:25] <Corsten> Hello. Do I need to install sshd by myself on Ubuntu Server?
[10:25] <EdgEy> kkerwin, ah. perhaps i could make my script detect whether the number is lower than it was before ..
[10:25] <EdgEy> hm.
[10:25] <ucordes> !diva
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diva - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <kkerwin> EdgEy: Indeed.
[10:25] <POVaddct> wims: udev creates /dev/disk/by-uuid/*  try to look there
[10:25] <kkerwin> EdgEy: Best of luck to ya.
[10:25] <EdgEy> do you know of any good resources on bash scripting ? i assume this is what I would be using
[10:25] <EdgEy> :)
[10:25] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: Thanks again for your help. Peace.
[10:26] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: anytime
[10:26] <wims> POVaddct, thanks, found it
[10:26] <kkerwin> EdgEy: Uhm, check google. I don't do anything at all in bash; I almost exclusively use python.
[10:26] <EdgEy> okay :)
[10:26] <Marupa> could someone point me to a howto on how to stream to a shoutcast server?
[10:26] <bafoc> EdgEy - google results (learn bash scripting) http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/Bash-Scripting-Introduction-HOWTO/http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/Bash-Scripting-Introduction-HOWTO/
[10:26] <kkerwin> EdgEy: No prob. Best of luck.
[10:26] <EdgEy> thankyou :)
[10:27] <bafoc> EdgEy: Google is your friend
[10:27] <slvmchn> if i want to run fluxbuntu should i just install ubuntu proper then install fluxbox
[10:27] <bafoc> EdgEy: np
[10:27] <slvmchn> or can i just avoid all the gnome stuff to begin with
[10:27] <EdgEy> bafoc, yes, of course, just wondered if there was any particular page someone would recommend before maybe finding a complicated guide :)
[10:27] <erUSUL> EdgEy: search fo "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide"
[10:27] <EdgEy> i will read up
[10:27] <|thunder> Marupa; most folks stream FROM a shoutcast server.
[10:27] <erUSUL> for*
[10:27] <whtvrrob> well i'm out for dinner
[10:27] <whtvrrob> talk to y'all later
[10:27] <Marupa> I'm a semi-dj  :P
[10:28] <slvmchn> or is xfce on par with fluxbox for lightweight desktop
[10:28] <bafoc> EdgEy: hmm, no not really. You could look at the startup scripts for ubuntu, those are bash scripts :-)
[10:28] <crdlb> slvmchn, not as light
[10:28] <Marupa> so I'd like to stream to, so I can give people my music :P
[10:28] <POVaddct> slvmchn: xfce is more like a desktop environment, fluxbox is just a window manager
[10:29] <POVaddct> slvmchn: so xfce's memory footprint is bigger
[10:29] <bafoc> Marupa: from a webserver?
[10:29] <Marupa> from linux to a shoutcast server.
[10:29] <mithya> Hello Everyone, I am having problems running the Live CD of Ubuntu 1.10, I have checked the integrity of the CD that I recieved via mail delivery, it is fine.  The disc loads up, I select Run/Install Ubuntu, it begins to run for a short while, then everything halts, nothing more.  It will not load, any ideas?
[10:30] <Marupa> I've heard of darkice, but I could never get it to work.
[10:30] <bafoc> Marupa: try icecast
[10:30] <Oswy> Hey, can someone help me?
[10:30] <bafoc> !questions > Oswy
[10:30] <Oswy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu through GRUB from Windows.
[10:31] <POVaddct> mithya: how much ram does your machine have?
[10:31] <Marupa> that can take a shunt from /dev/dsp, bafoc?
[10:31] <bafoc> Owsy: just boot your ubuntu cd
[10:31] <Oswy> Didn't work.
[10:31] <Oswy> Long story.
[10:31] <eV_64> boot to cd?
[10:31] <Oswy> Anyway, I got the following error message.
[10:31] <bafoc> Marupa: not sure... do a google on icecast
[10:31] <coiote> i make it!!!!!
[10:31] <Marupa> kay
[10:31] <eV_64> Oswy: why couldn't you boot to cd?
[10:31] <Oswy> "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."
[10:31] <Oswy> Long story.
[10:31] <coiote> cant believe it!!!
[10:32] <Oswy> Is this easily fixable/if so, how?
 256 mb ram
[10:32] <coiote> how u guys  r doing?
[10:32] <bafoc> Oswy: that's an even longer story... you really need to boot from cdrom
[10:32] <coiote> im looking for some help!!!!!
[10:32] <acalvo> hi!
[10:32] <mithya> POVaddct: 256 mb ram
[10:32] <POVaddct> mithya: should be enough for the live cd
[10:32] <mithya> POVaddct: hmm strange
[10:32] <bafoc> !questions | coiote
[10:32] <ubotu> coiote: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:32] <Intangir> how do i force a package to install if it depends on an OLDER version of a package i already have installed
[10:32] <acalvo> does anyone know if the kqemu module is present in the latest kernel for amd64?
[10:32] <Oswy> So that can't just be fixed by going into the kernel?
[10:32] <IdleOne> !herd5
[10:32] <ubotu> To download Feisty Fawn Herd 5, visit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/ - read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5, and consider doing the tests at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[10:32] <jrib> Intangir: tell us what you are doing
[10:32] <bafoc> Oswy: hmm, no unless you want to learn to kernel hack!!
[10:33] <Oswy> I downloaded the 6.10 installer, MD5sum checked, burned it onto 2 CDs, got a kernel panic both times.
[10:33] <Oswy> So the CD isn't working for me. :/
[10:33] <eV_64> Oswy: run memtest?
[10:33] <Oswy> Hmm, so I'll take that as a no.
[10:33] <orangefly> anyone here used ubuntu, redhat, and suse enough to give an opinion on which has the best overall performance and support....???....
[10:33] <coiote> when i star my computer  and take the option to boot from ubuntu its show me some errors like: can not read block xxxxxxx
[10:33] <Jenn> Hello
[10:33] <hendaus> can somebody tell me how to download nokia suite on linux, thanx
[10:33] <Oswy> Through the Ubuntu installer?
[10:33] <coiote> and this take forever to star  ubuntu
[10:33] <whta> i'm having a particularly odd problem with my entire computer shutting off completely whenever i leave the screen locked for more than a few minutes.. sometimes it will go off during normal use, though, and I'm not ENTIRELY sure if this is ubuntu's fault because to get my computer to stay on again, i have to open the case and fiddle with the wires. i don't unplug anything, though, i just.. move them around :o
[10:33] <Intangir> im trying to install nvidia-glx-dev, it depends on libgl1-mesa-dev, which depends on mesa-common-dev 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3, but i have 6.5.1+cvs20060824
[10:33] <eV_64> Oswy: if they have it
[10:33] <Jenn> I installed ubuntu through Ubuntu alternate.
[10:33] <Oswy> k
[10:33] <eV_64> Oswy: you boot to it
[10:34] <Oswy> Yeah.
[10:34] <eV_64> Oswy: do you remember it being an option?
[10:34] <acalvo> orangefly: I believe ther are enough reviews that will lead you to make a good choice
[10:34] <Jenn> All I get is a black screen!
[10:34] <bafoc> orangefly: yes... been using redhat/fedora/suse for about 10 years... and ubuntu by far is the best desktop linux OS out there
[10:34] <Jenn> Can anyone help me?
[10:34] <Intangir> jrib: im trying to install nvidia-glx-dev, it depends on libgl1-mesa-dev, which depends on mesa-common-dev 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3, but i have 6.5.1+cvs20060824
[10:34] <bafoc> !questions | Jenn
[10:34] <ubotu> Jenn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:34] <orangefly> i'm sorry....i meant servers....
[10:34] <IndyGunFreak> Intangir: isn't in the repos?
[10:34] <Oswy> eV_64: I think it was an option, yeah.
[10:34] <Oswy> Checking now.
[10:34] <Jenn> ubotu: hello.
[10:34] <Intangir> IndyGunFreak: the old version is, but i have a newer version
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Oswy> Haha.
[10:35] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[10:35] <coiote> so any idea whats going on ???
[10:35] <Jenn> lmao
[10:35] <Intangir> how do i make it install with my newer ersion, it depends (or so it thinks) exactly on an older version
[10:35] <Intangir> which i dont want to backport too, cause beryl depends on the newer version
[10:35] <whta> i'm having a particularly odd problem with my entire computer shutting off completely whenever i leave the screen locked for more than a few minutes.. sometimes it will go off during normal use, though, and I'm not ENTIRELY sure if this is ubuntu's fault because to get my computer to stay on again, i have to open the case and fiddle with the wires. i don't unplug anything, though, i just.. move them around :o
[10:35] <bafoc> orangefly: I use centOs for servers, but I do know that debian (ubuntu-server) so be just as stable....
[10:35] <Oswy> Running Memory test now.
[10:35] <bafoc> Jenn: your funny
[10:35] <jrib> Intangir: beryl depends on the newer version of what?
[10:35] <Jenn> I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!
[10:36] <Jenn> ^^ HELP
[10:36] <Oswy> If the memtest fails, do I have a much bigger problem on my hands?
[10:36] <Intangir> jrib: mesa-common-dev
[10:36] <Dante123> hi all.....thanks for those who have tried to help me so far.....here is what i am trying to do.......read a Mac disk (800k- hfs filesystem) under Linux....some have told me it can be done....others say no........
[10:36] <eV_64> umm you need new ram
[10:36] <Oswy> Haha.
[10:36] <coiote> so bafoc  any idea???
[10:36] <Oswy> Fair enough.
[10:36] <jrib> Intangir: you mean some beryl source right? Not the beryl package?
[10:36] <eV_64> did you have windows on it before?
[10:36] <Oswy> Still do.
[10:36] <orangefly> does ubuntu server take advantage of the dual core and quad core processors....???....
[10:36] <eV_64> Oswy: did you ever get bluescreens?
[10:36] <Dante123> some have said use the mount command...something like this  mount -t hfs /dev/floppy-1 etc.
[10:36] <Intangir> jrib: im using beryl packages from a beryl repo
[10:36] <CheshireViking> whta, does it only switch off when the computer is locked? or does it do it even when you are using it?
[10:36] <Oswy> Not that I can remember.
[10:37] <Oswy> Maybe once or twice.
[10:37] <Intangir> jrib: it had a new version of mesa-common-dev
[10:37] <Oswy> It's pretty old, though.
[10:37] <sethk> Dante123, it really depends on how smart the usb gadget is.
[10:37] <eV_64> Oswy: how much ram do you have?
[10:37] <Intangir> jrib: but to install nvidia-glx-dev, it needs an older version of mesa-common-dev
[10:37] <Oswy> January 2005, I think.
[10:37] <POVaddct> Oswy: he means this memtest boot option: http://84.179.119.74:29574/
[10:37] <Oswy> Well, not that old, I guess.
[10:37] <Intangir> jrib: so i cant install dev stuff, cause the packages dependancies are messed up
[10:37] <Oswy> 1024
[10:37] <mithya> Hello, needing help here.  Trying to boot Ubuntu 1.10 live CD, Checksum passed, 256mb RAM/amd Athalon/800mhz.  CD boots, selected Run/Install, begins the process for short while, then stops, nothing more.  Any ideas?  Thanks for any help.
[10:37] <Intangir> jrib: is there a way to force a package to install? even if its dependancies dont seem to be met?
[10:37] <eV_64> Oswy: where does it error?
[10:37] <Jenn>  I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!
[10:37] <killaz> hi Im setting up my gfx card with tv out
[10:37] <Oswy> Well.
[10:38] <sethk> Intangir, yes, there are force flags you can use with dpkg
[10:38] <Jenn> Can anyone help?  I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!
[10:38] <Oswy> Whenever I install on the boot disk, I get past the loading screen, and then it just goes blank.
[10:38] <jrib> Intangir: I would rebuild the source package if I were in your shoes
[10:38] <bafoc> coiote: I'm tryin to find your question again... ( window is filling up )
[10:38] <sethk> Oswy, try the text mode install on the alternate cd
[10:38] <Oswy> I tried it in text mode, and I got a kernel panic.
[10:38] <jrib> Intangir: are you going to be developing on beryl? or?
[10:38] <killaz> but  I'm getting this error: Unable to find available Display Devices for screen 1
[10:38] <Jenn> Oswy, try alternate.
[10:38] <Oswy> Oh, alternate?
[10:38] <Oswy> k
[10:38] <Oswy> Link please.
 I've had that problem before too...never figured it out, haha im still trying to get this thing to work
[10:38] <eV_64> on the ubuntu site
[10:38] <Oswy> k
[10:38] <bafoc> Jenn: try CTRL+ATL+F2
[10:38] <eV_64> oswy, is it 32 bit pc?
[10:39] <Jenn> mithya, you got to be kidding.
[10:39] <Intangir> jrib: no im trying to build another package that requires GL headers
[10:39] <Oswy> Uhh.
[10:39] <Jenn> mithya, I erased my whole hard-drive to get this to work.
[10:39] <Oswy> 64 bits.
[10:39] <mithya> Jenn, haha, mabey I'll try what that person just mentioned
[10:39] <jrib> Intangir: why not downgrade mesa-common-dev then
[10:39] <Jenn> try what mithya?
[10:39] <bafoc> Jenn: try CTRL+ATL+F2
[10:39] <Oswy> Is the alternate for 6.06?
[10:39] <bafoc> Jenn: this will bring you to a shell logon prompt
[10:39] <Jenn> bafoc, I did... nothing comes up. No console or anything.
[10:40] <Intangir> jrib: wont that break beryl? it depended on a newer version
[10:40] <coiote> when i star my computer and take the option to boot from ubuntu its show me some errors like: can not read block xxxxxxx
[10:40] <mithya> Jenn: i'll try CTRL+ALT+F2 also
[10:40] <Noah0504> So, I just installed Debian Testing on an old Compaq Presario with a 300MHz processor and 64MB of RAM.  I haven't installed a desktop enviornment, and I don't plan to.  I was wondering if anyone else runs Linux just from the console.
[10:40] <jrib> Intangir: beryl doesn't depend on a -dev package.  I'm fairly sure it doesn't...  Try it and see what apt says it is going to do
[10:40] <mithya> Hello, needing help here.  Trying to boot Ubuntu 1.10 live CD, Checksum passed, 256mb RAM/amd Athalon/800mhz.  CD boots, selected Run/Install, begins the process for short while, then stops, nothing more.  Any ideas?  Thanks for any help.
[10:40] <bafoc> Jenn: hmm, I believe there is a safe mode option to boot from, have you tried that?
[10:40] <whta> i'm having a particularly odd problem with my entire computer shutting off completely whenever i leave the screen locked for more than a few minutes.. sometimes it will go off during normal use, though, and I'm not ENTIRELY sure if this is ubuntu's fault because to get my computer to stay on again, i have to open the case and fiddle with the wires. i don't unplug anything, though, i just.. move them around :o
[10:40] <Jenn> bafoc, how do I go on about doing that?
[10:40] <CheshireViking> whta, does it only switch off when the computer is locked? or does it do it even when you are using it?
[10:40] <Intangir> jrib: how do i downgrade then?
[10:41] <CoOlGhOsT> I need some help... Tried to upgrade to Feisty, but it got stuck... so now I cant go on with the update process... Apache2 seems be the problem
[10:41] <eV_64> oswy, have you tried the 32 bit?
[10:41] <eV_64> what cpu do you have?
[10:41] <whta> cheshire: it rarely does it when i'm using it, but it has a few times.
[10:41] <CoOlGhOsT> anyone care to help?
[10:41] <Jenn> bafoc, how do I do safe-boot?
[10:41] <jrib> Intangir: apt-cache policy PACKAGE   will list available versions.  apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION   will install version VERSION of PACKAGE
[10:41] <bafoc> Jenn: when you see the grub splash screen, use your arrow up key and then choose ( I think ) safe mode. Can't remember the exact wording
[10:41] <Oswy> Home-made.
[10:41] <Oswy> I can't find the alternate download, haha.
[10:41] <Oswy> I clearly just fail.
[10:41] <Oswy> Uhh, nvm.
[10:42] <Oswy> Think I got it.
[10:42] <whta> if it matters, i recently installed beryl
[10:42] <Jeeva> how do i install JVM on ubuntu ?
[10:42] <manopulus> a question.... i would lke to have gaim2 beta, is it available through apt-get repository, if so, what is url for repository? overall, where i can get links for mplaeyer, codecs, dvd-cd burn software, for opera?
[10:42] <Intangir> jrib: thx
[10:42] <erUSUL> CoOlGhOsT: uninstall apache if you can and install it again after the dist-upgrade is done... btw fwisty qa in #ubuntu+1
[10:42] <Jeeva> "no suitable java virtual machine could be found on your system"
[10:42] <bafoc> CoOlGhOsT: check out #ubuntu+1
[10:42] <erUSUL> !java > Jeeva
[10:42] <MartianManhunter> i need some help; when I am trying to upgrade to 6.10 through Update Manager, I cannot get past Failed to fetch http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:42] <CheshireViking> whta, i have what sounds like exactly the same problem with a laptop I use, I've replaced the power supply, changed batteries etc, checked all the connections - my only conclusion with my laptop is a faulty motherboard/hardware issue
[10:42] <CoOlGhOsT> yeah... sorry... forgot its still beta
[10:42] <Jeeva> ?
[10:42] <CoOlGhOsT> thanks
[10:42] <jrib> !java | Jeeva
[10:42] <ubotu> Jeeva: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:42] <eV_64> Oswy: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/6.10/
[10:42] <bafoc> phew
[10:42] <Oswy> k
[10:42] <Oswy> Thanks.
[10:42] <bart> hello
[10:43] <bafoc> hi
[10:43] <mithya> Hello, needing help here.  Trying to boot Ubuntu 1.10 live CD, Checksum passed, 256mb RAM/amd Athalon/800mhz.  CD boots, selected Run/Install, begins the process for short while, then stops, nothing more.  Any ideas?  Thanks for any help.
[10:43] <Jeeva> i did install sun-java6-jre
[10:43] <foutrelis> mithya: Which version of Ubuntu did you say you are trying to install?
[10:43] <Jeeva> and java-package
[10:43] <CheshireViking> whta, does the machine only have ubuntu on it, or does it dual boot with win dows?
[10:43] <Intangir> jrib: seems to be working
[10:43] <Berzerke1> I'm having a problem installing my video drivers
[10:43] <Intangir> didnt complain about uninstalling anything
[10:43] <jrib> Jeeva: what are you trying to do now
[10:43] <whta> cheshire: dual booting
[10:43] <foutrelis> mithya: 1.10? :S
[10:43] <mithya> foutrelis: 1.10
[10:43] <Jeeva> trying to install wildfire/openfire
[10:43] <manopulus> mithya: try noapic and nolapic in boot optons
[10:43] <mithya> hahaha 6.10
[10:43] <erUSUL> Jeeva: 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' choose the sun one as default
[10:43] <foutrelis> mithya: 6.10 maybe?
[10:43] <Jenn> bafoc, I do not see any option.
[10:43] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:43] <mithya> ya
[10:43] <dyrne> mithya: there are often problems with installing from the livecd. the alternate install cd might work better. until last release it was default way of installing
[10:43] <mithya> lol
[10:43] <CheshireViking> whta, does the same thing happen with windows or is it just an ubuntu issue?
[10:44] <mithya> OOPSIES
[10:44] <coiote> when i star my computer and take the option to boot from ubuntu its show me some errors like: can not read block xxxxxxx  any help pleae???
[10:44] <whta> cheshire: i'm not sure yet. i haven't been on windows much since it started doing this. i'll have to check that out later
[10:44] <foutrelis> mithya: So you boot the Desktop CD. Does Gnome start and after you start the isntallation wizard it stops. Correct?
[10:44] <coiote> when i star my computer and take the option to boot from ubuntu its show me some errors like: can not read block xxxxxxx and take forever to star ubuntu
[10:44] <Jeeva> erUSUL
[10:44] <Jeeva> it lists 3 alternatives
[10:44] <Foxdie> hi guys, bit of a novice question here, I am trying to install some usb drivers for a video capture card on ubuntu but it's trying to put files in /etc/hotplug/usb which doesn't exist (neither does /etc/hotplug), where should it be putting the files instead?
[10:44] <Jenn> Can anyone help?  I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!.
[10:44] <Jeeva> java-gcj is selected & then there is java-6-sun
[10:44] <erUSUL> coiote: it seems like corrupted fs to me... use fsck from a livecd to check partitions
[10:44] <foutrelis> mithya: that was a badly typed question :)
[10:45] <CheshireViking> whta, i'd check windows - at least it'd give you an idea whether its ubuntu, or whether it could be a hardware issue like mine
[10:45] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:45] <Jeeva> okay, thanks works
[10:45] <erUSUL> Jeeva: i told you to choose the one from Sun java-6-sun
[10:45] <mithya> foutrelis: It goes directly to the screen after selecting Run/Install then it stops as the bar is moving back and forth.
[10:45] <Jenn> Help,  I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!
[10:45] <mithya> dyrne: ok thanks, i'll give that a shot
[10:46] <whta> cheshire: will do. it's odd, though. it's been running fine on this exact setup for months. sudden problem.
[10:46] <Death_Sargent> I am trying to auto start firestarter when i boot however after i added "pete ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter" to my sudoers file now only root can launch firestarters
[10:46] <bafoc> Jenn: What happens if you do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[10:46] <mithya> mithya: testing testing 123
[10:46] <foutrelis> mithya: I did not see dyrne's response that's why I kept talink. I suggest the same. :)
[10:46] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:47] <Foxdie> anyone know what ubuntu's alternative for /etc/hotplug is?
[10:47] <foutrelis> *talking :\
 testing...123
[10:47] <eV_64> Oswy: find it?
[10:47] <Jenn> bafoc, no result.
[10:47] <manopulus> a question.... i would lke to have gaim2 beta, is it available through apt-get repository, if so, what is url for repository? overall, where i can get links for mplaeyer, codecs, dvd-cd burn software, for opera?
[10:47] <mithya> hmm how do i make my typing to others read?
[10:47] <Jenn> It is still froze as a black screen.
[10:47] <bafoc> Jenn: If you hit your numlock key, does the light go off and on?
[10:47] <mithya> foutrelis: ok thanks
[10:47] <Death_Sargent> I am trying to auto start firestarter when i boot however after i added "pete ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter" to my sudoers file now only root can launch firestarter. i can't even use the menu link
[10:47] <mithya> i mean red
[10:47] <eV_64> Oswy: gotta run
[10:47] <Death_Sargent> only works if i use a terminal and start under su
[10:48] <Oswy> k
[10:48] <Noah0504> Pastor123: What all are you allowed to do with the shell?
[10:48] <Jenn> bafoc, yet -- they do go on and off.
[10:48] <Jenn> yes*
[10:48] <kski> when running make/make install, how do i install so i don't have to be root to run my program?
[10:48] <odix> dvdauthor is saying it can't write my /meda/hda3/ ... how can i give it permission to ?
[10:48] <odix> chown ?
[10:48] <mithya> everyone: how do i send a message that is highlighted to others....as in distinguished from the rest of the other text?
[10:48] <N3WB> How to install .deb packages without grapical interface (X11)
[10:48] <coiote> ersul thanks mate u think thats gonna be enougth?
[10:49] <mithya> hmmm mabey that worked
[10:49] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:49] <preaction> N3WB: dpkg -i <path to package .deb>
[10:49] <mithya> ahh I c
[10:49] <CheshireViking> whta, don't want to sound like a doom & gloom merchant, but thats how mine came went, was working fine for years, then all of a sudden started switching off - could be minutes or days before it switched off - it did it in windows, ubuntu & slackware - so i'm fairly sure its hardware - just use it as a door stop now
[10:49] <Foxdie> N3WB: dpkg -i package.deb
[10:49] <preaction> N3WB: sudo dpkg actually
[10:49] <N3WB> ok
[10:49] <bart> i have a quastion: what is simplymepis? is it better than ubuntu? i don't know, what is better for me... (sorry for my bad english)
[10:49] <mithya> woops
[10:49] <bafoc> Jenn: ok so the system isn't locked up... hmm...
[10:49] <mithya> hahah sorry all
[10:49] <Jenn> bafoc, you there?
[10:49] <Berzerke1> can anyone help me?
[10:50] <Jenn> bafoc, it's not, but everything does seem frozen when I get the black screen.
[10:50] <Chetwin> Will fsck tell me if I have a bad hard drive
[10:50] <Death_Sargent> i get an xlib error when trying to start as me from console
[10:50] <Noah0504> bart: Mepis is built upon Ubuntu (previously Debian) and used KDE as it's default desktop enviornment.  If you like Gnome, just stick with Ubuntu, however, if you like KDE, Mepis may be a good alternative to Kubuntu.
[10:50] <preaction> Chetwin: it only checks the filesystem, not the hardware
[10:50] <CaBlGuY> anyone tell me how to remove RythmBox??
[10:50] <Chetwin> preaction: How can I check the hardware?
[10:51] <bafoc> Jenn: hmm, ok try this... when you get to the grub splash screen, hit the a key, and then a again, and then -s ( this will allow you to append to the boot line the option for single user mod) no gui..
[10:51] <preaction> CaBlGuY: apt-get remove rhythmbox ?
[10:51] <Noah0504> Why ask a question, and then leave the channel?  Grr...
[10:51] <shwag> anyone know why my beryl wont work anymore?
[10:51] <CaBlGuY> preaction:  lemme try..  brb
[10:51] <bafoc> shway: check out #beryl
[10:51] <Jenn> bafoc, you mean I should hit ESC?
[10:51] <seggeh> approx. how much disk space does a normal install of the ubuntu desktop take up?
[10:51] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:51] <Noah0504> shwag: It must be brokened... :)
[10:51] <bafoc> Jenn: no... just as I mentioned above
[10:52] <preaction> Chetwin: normally one asks on IRC before private messages
[10:52] <bafoc> Jenn: you want to go into single user mode....
[10:52] <Chetwin> I did
[10:52] <Chetwin> oh
[10:52] <Chetwin> I get it
[10:52] <shwag> Noah0504: beryl crashed...not it wont restart.
[10:52] <bafoc> :-)
[10:52] <Berzerke1> I'm having a problem with my video driver. when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:52] <mdog> how do i check what my ethernet link is running at? 10/100/1000??
[10:52] <Jenn> bafoc, it says Press ESC to enter menu.
[10:52] <bafoc> Jenn: hmm, ok do that :-)
[10:52] <Chetwin> Okay, Anyone, how can I checkc the actual hardware of my drive
[10:52] <Chetwin> check*
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> preaction:  yep, that was it..   :p
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> Tanks!
[10:53] <Noah0504> shwag: I've never really messed around with Beryl, so I don't think I can be of much help.  However, if it just stopped working, that may a pretty broad problem.  Best of luck getting the issue resolved though.
[10:53] <Berzerke1> I'm having a problem with my video driver. when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:53] <bafoc> Jenn, I dual boot, so I don't see the normal splash screen ( nor do I reboot often ) :-)
[10:53] <Berzerke1> it will only let me boot with the vesa driver
[10:53] <Jenn> bafoc, I'm in the menu. I get few options.
[10:53] <coiote> its a several software  wich can do that chetwim
[10:53] <Berzerke1> nvidia doesn't work at all
[10:53] <bafoc> ok
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> whens the next update for Ubuntu comin out..  IE, next version??
[10:54] <Chetwin> coiote: any open source software?
[10:54] <netham45> GAH!
[10:54] <netham45> Multi-Head is pissing me off!
[10:54] <CheshireViking> !fiesty > CaBlGuY
[10:54] <netham45> !multihead
[10:54] <Jenn> bafoc: I sew kernel 2.6, memtest, kernel recovery mode.
[10:54] <mdog> anyone know how to check if your NIC is running 10/100/1000?
[10:54] <gecko_> How do I find out which exact version of Ubuntu I have..it says 7.04 But i KNOW its not fully 7.04.. i dont know what herd i have
[10:54] <CaBlGuY> Thanks CheshireViking
[10:54] <Death_Sargent> how do i make it so i don't need a password to launch a program
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multihead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <zyth> CaBlGuY, 07/04
[10:54] <Jon335> I had to manually remove a dpkg package, how do I remove it from the package db (so it doesn't think it's still there)?
[10:54] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: you have messed up the driver from nvidia.com and the one from repos?
[10:54] <shwag> Noah0504: fixed.
[10:54] <preaction> Chetwin: do you have SMART enabled in your BIOS?
[10:54] <bafoc> Jenn: highlight a kerenl and then hit a you should be at the boot option line.. type -s and then hit enter
[10:54] <Chetwin> Don't know
[10:54] <Berzerke1> what?
[10:55] <Berzerke1> I didn't install it from the repos.
[10:55] <Death_Sargent> anyone know how to make it so i don't need a passowrd to launch firestarter
[10:55] <badatt> hello all
[10:55] <Berzerke1> I downloaded the package from nvidia.com
[10:55] <Berzerke1> I installed the headers and the kernel
[10:55] <Foxdie> anyone able to tell me how hotplug works with ubuntu?
[10:55] <MartianManhunter> help i am running into problems upgrading to 6.10 in Update Manager, please
[10:56] <bafoc> Berzerke1: did you install the correct kernel headers for your running kernel
[10:56] <preaction> Chetwin: sudo apt-get install smartmontools <- look up how to use them on google?
[10:56] <Berzerke1> yes
[10:56] <badatt> i have a problem: when i try "ls -R / | more" (or any other use of more) it doesn't paginate , it stops after showing a single page. can someone help me?
[10:56] <Jenn> bafoc, at the bottom it says ... press 'e' to edit the commands before booting, or 'c' for a command line.
[10:56] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: maybe you have instaled linux-restricted-modules after that?
[10:56] <CaBlGuY> :-O   Beryl is gonna be a default install??
[10:56] <CaBlGuY> if so, that's way cool..
[10:56] <Berzerke1> I'm....not supposed to?
[10:56] <bafoc> Jenn: a = append... you can't hit a?
[10:56] <Chetwin> THANKS
[10:56] <preaction> CaBlGuY: it got deferred to fiesty+1, but that's the idea yes
[10:56] <coiote> well chetwin everithing depends u can use the  hirents boot cd it comes whit a lot of aplications
[10:57] <CaBlGuY> preaction:  cool..
[10:57] <Jenn> nope... I can't hit a key. once I select the ketnal boot... it takes me to normal boot.
[10:57] <mdog> anyone know how to check if ethernet is running at 10/100/1000
[10:57] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: well in that package comes a nvidia.ko that have screwed the one from the *.run pacakge
[10:57] <netham45> ifconfig eth0
[10:57] <Berzerke1> but this isn't a problem with the driver
[10:57] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: reinstaling the *.run file from nvidia.com should resolve the issue
[10:57] <Berzerke1> the driver installed fine
[10:57] <mdog> netham45: wheres it show that good stuff
[10:57] <bafoc> Jenn: ok then I guess to the edit option and then add -s (strange they took out the append option).
[10:57] <Jon335> Can anyone help me with a dpkg issue?
[10:57] <Berzerke1> I did that 3 times.
[10:58] <netham45> mdog: ifconfig eth0 -a
[10:58] <CaBlGuY> preaction:  is there some screenshots somewhere of fiesty yet?
[10:58] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: do you need linux-restricted-modules for other hardware in your machine?
[10:58] <netham45> how do I upgrade to Feisty?
[10:58] <Berzerke1> I don't know.
[10:58] <preaction> netham45: fiesty is handled in #ubuntu+1
[10:58] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: why did you instaled them?
[10:58] <Death_Sargent> dl the disk and use the disk upgrade method
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> CaBlGuY: it looks about the same as Edgy
[10:59] <Jenn> bafoc, now I see a menu with following options: root, kernal boot..... quiet splash, initrd, savedefault, boot.
[10:59] <netham45> Eeeeeedgy is having some issues with my keyboard and stuff. espically with the shift key.
[10:59] <Berzerke1> Because the instructions I read said to?
[10:59] <coiote> how to use the fsck on a live cd????
[10:59] <harry_> can I get a RSS/Atom reader that goes as an object in a gnome bar?
[10:59] <CaBlGuY> IndyGunFreak:   K..  just wonderin..
[10:59] <Death_Sargent> USE THE DISK UPGRADE TECHNIQUE
[10:59] <coiote> im new on linux so.....
[10:59] <bafoc> Jenn: ok at the end of the boot option type -s
[10:59] <CaBlGuY> coiote:  welcome to the FREE world..  ;)
[10:59] <Jon335> I had to manually remove a dpkg package, how do I remove it from the package db (so it doesn't think it's still there)?
[11:00] <Jenn> bafoc, ok done.
[11:00] <coiote> i know  but still learning  cabiguy
[11:00] <bafoc> Jenn: ok now hit enter
[11:00] <Berzerke1> I'm new also, and so far, I'm having a crappy experience.
[11:00] <Jenn> bafoc, done.
[11:00] <Berzerke1> Errors left and right.
[11:00] <bafoc> Jenn: cool, hopefully you will get a logon prompt. If so, we can go from there
[11:01] <CaBlGuY> coiote:  well, if you have any questions at all, just ask..  and BTW, Ubuntu is THE best distro as far as I'm concerned so, you made a great choice..
[11:01] <Jenn> bafoc, I hope so. :(
[11:01] <bafoc> ;-)
[11:01] <bafoc> CaBIGUy: Yup!
[11:01] <Berzerke1> erUSUL, you there?
[11:01] <CaBlGuY> :)
[11:02] <Jenn> bafocc, black screen. :(
[11:02] <bafoc> Jenn: what type of hardware are you using?
[11:02] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: yes
[11:02] <Berzerke1> so what exactly am I supposed to do?
[11:03] <Jenn> Bafoc, Intel Pentium III Processor, 697 MHz, 384 MB of Ram, Nividia GeForce MX 440.
[11:03] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: linux-restricted-modules are *not* needed for the nvidia.com *.run package the linux-headers-generic are...
[11:04] <Berzerke1> I'm not sure if I installed them actually.
[11:04] <Berzerke1> I didn't install the generic headers
[11:04] <erUSUL> Berzerke1:  linux-restricted-modules are needed if you use the prepackaged driver nvidia-glx
[11:04] <Berzerke1> I installed the 386 headers
[11:04] <bafoc> Jenn: one sec, I'm going to boot a system here to check something
[11:04] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: the ones that match your kernel
[11:05] <Berzerke1> if I reboot back into ubuntu and see that I did install the restricted modules, I should just remove them?
[11:05] <bafoc> Jenn: Have you tried the memtest86+ boot option when you hit ESC?
[11:05] <Berzerke1> then reinstall the nvidia.com drivers?
[11:05] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: uninstall linux-restricted-modules and reinstall the nvidia.com *.run package
[11:05] <Berzerke1> alright
[11:06] <Jenn> bafoc, I will try.
[11:06] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: if you have an atheros wifi card you will no longer be able to run it...
[11:06] <kghunt> can some1 help im trying to reinstall grub after a vista install
[11:06] <Norf-ubu_> how can I print to PDF ?
[11:06] <Jon335> I had to manually remove a dpkg package, how do I remove it from the package db (so it doesn't think it's still there)?
[11:06] <Soulless> can anyone remind me what the reconfigure thing is for Xorg. I know it's dpkg-reconfigure or something like it.
[11:07] <ntze> Norf-ubu, cups-pdf package
[11:07] <Jenn> bafoc, I have done memory test before. It passes.
[11:07] <so_> I have this one Ubuntu machine that is supposedly using emacs for things like vipw, but it won't accept C-x C-c to exit, any ideas?
[11:07] <erUSUL> ubotu tell kghunt about grub | kghunt see priv msg from ubotu
[11:07] <Norf-ubu_> cheers ntze
[11:07] <ntze> Norf-ubu, anytime
[11:07] <bafoc> Jenn: ok how about recoverymode
[11:07] <kghunt> cheers
[11:08] <bafoc> Jenn: have you tried swapping out memory, video card, video cable.. etc..
[11:08] <Kazz> kghunt: Are you having a problem with it, or you just don't know what to do?
[11:08] <Jenn> bafoc, no, I don't have any other compatible hardware for the computer.
[11:09] <teclo> Say, whenn the fuck are you folks gonna fix the shitload of bugs in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[11:09] <bafoc> Jenn: when you booted from the cd to the live desktop before install everything worked ok? have you tried turning off acpi?
[11:09] <N3WB> Is it normal that printing with Ubuntu is kinda...screwed
[11:09] <kghunt> Well since i installed vista ubuntu no longer boots
[11:09] <kghunt> reading around i assume this is becuase vista has overwritten grub in the mbr
[11:10] <bafoc> kghunt: you may want to re-install ubuntu and use the grub bootloader instead of the vista one
[11:10] <marcagio> hello people! i'm trying to get a BCM4318 to work, I tried all the forums I could find but nothing has worked... I see it when I do :$ lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation... but I can't see it when I look into my network settings (i see my LAN, my dialup but no wifi)
[11:10] <Jenn> bafoc, live desktop did not work. I had the same problem. That's why I used alternate installl.
[11:10] <Noah0504> kghunt: Yeah, Windows will do that to you.
[11:10] <erUSUL> kghunt: have you checked the ubotu pm
[11:10] <kghunt> yes
[11:10] <N3WB> kghunt: Or smarter: Download Super Grub Disc
[11:10] <kghunt> im just looking at the webby now
[11:10] <N3WB> (Google!)
[11:10] <kghunt> what does that do
[11:11] <killaz> can someone help me setup the tv out on my gfx?
[11:11] <N3WB> I use SGD allways for booting Ubuntu, dont wana overwrite the Vista Bootloader :p
[11:11] <Soulless> kghunt: doesn't the install CD have a repair option
[11:11] <N3WB> It fixes GRUB For you :p
[11:11] <bafoc> Jenn: sorry, I would really have to say that if the default didn't work without the alternate for both live cd and install that it looks hardware related but where.. I'm unsure
[11:11] <N3WB> It detect the old grub file and you can restore it from there
[11:11] <kghunt> ubuntu doesnt
[11:11] <kghunt> I dont give a toss about vista as long as it loads
[11:11] <kghunt> I only use it for the media centre bit for my xbox 360
[11:12] <darkusurp> do i have to install drivers to get my sound card working?
[11:12] <Kazz> kghunt: This might help you: http://www.eloff.se/tutorials.php?ubuntu_vista_dualboot
[11:12] <Soulless> kghunt: pretty much all it's useful for...
[11:12] <AngryElf> darkusurp, no, philosophically, you shouldn't *have* to
[11:13] <Kazz> kghunt: Basically you can boot off of a live CD and reinstall grub.
[11:13] <darkusurp> my sound isnt working though
[11:13] <marcagio> as I can see no one's able to help me? (look further up)
[11:13] <kghunt> im on the live cd now :-)
[11:14] <Berzerke1> USUL
[11:14] <Berzerke1> I tryed to do that.
[11:14] <Kazz> marcagio: Sorry, no idea. :(
[11:14] <Berzerke1> tried*
[11:14] <Berzerke1> But it still gave me the same error
[11:14] <Soulless> marcagio: chill, maybe someone's googling it for you...
[11:14] <Berzerke1> it said "Failed to load NVIDIA Module Kernel"
[11:14] <mcquaid> i have 2 ubuntu machines (one dapper one edgy) that I'm trying to share via samba
[11:14] <Kazz> kghunt: Did you go to that web site I pasted for you?  It should help you...I've gotta' go for now, but if you have a problem following what it says, someone can probably help. :)
[11:14] <marcagio> lol i've been googling for at least an hour
[11:15] <mcquaid> so far i can only get it working one way.
[11:15] <mcquaid> it works fine both ways if i specify smb://1.2.3.4 but if i go to networks in the browser it times out going from edgy to the dapper box
[11:15] <jisatsu_> I've got a USB NIC, but I'm not sure how to get it working. any guides online for it?
[11:15] <Soulless> mcquaid: try installing the samba admin stuff. it's in Synaptic, under networking
[11:15] <mcquaid> but the dapper box finds the edgy box over the network without issue
[11:16] <jisatsu_> wireless*
[11:16] <kghunt> thanks mcquaid
[11:16] <kghunt> 1 question
[11:16] <daedalus_> jisatsu_: ndiswrapper in google
[11:16] <kghunt> if i reinstall grub do i install it to the linux partition or the mbr?
[11:16] <mcquaid> i think i have all the samba stuff installed, and I copied over my smb.conf from edgy to dapper so they are identifcal except for the paths of course
[11:16] <Soulless> mcquaid: I have a variant of the same problem.
[11:17] <Berzerke1> can anyone help me? I'm having a problem installing my nvidia drivers
[11:17] <jisatsu_> daedalus_: cheers :)
[11:17] <Jenn> bafoc, you there>
[11:17] <Soulless> mcquaid: maybe it's becuase they both have the samba client installed on but not the server?
[11:17] <Hyper-cool> what is the best win emulator for x86 ubuntu edgy?
[11:18] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, what sort of problem are you having?
[11:18] <mcquaid> Soulless: no both have the server daemon running
[11:18] <Berzerke1> Well
[11:18] <Berzerke1> when I try to boot up normally
[11:18] <bafoc> Jenn: 1 sec, working...
[11:18] <Berzerke1> I get an error with a blue screen
[11:18] <mcquaid> and whats weird is if i access the network from teh dapper box to the edgy box.  then immediately after the edgy box will find the dapper box
[11:18] <Berzerke1> saying the X server failed to initialize
[11:18] <LjL> !away > bafoc-away    (bafoc-away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:19] <kghunt> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[11:19] <Soulless> mcquaid: well, i'm fresh outta ideas.
[11:19] <mcquaid> so if i initially do a network search from dapper > edgy it will then work both ways
[11:19] <Berzerke1> and it's giving me a mismatch between my module version and driver version (the latter being a newer version)
[11:19] <mcquaid> that is until the dapper box times out i guess
[11:19] <Jenn> does ubuntu work with NTFS file system?
[11:19] <Berzerke1> btw, I'm trying to install it using the nvidia.com run package
[11:19] <Berzerke1> not the glx package
[11:20] <mcquaid> np Soulless, just throwing things out here.  I've searched the forums but no answer yet.  I guess I should organize my problem with a post
[11:20] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Jenn about ntfs | Jenn see priv msg from ubotu
[11:20] <jisatsu_> hmm. apparently the chipset isn't supported by ndiswrapper
[11:20] <marcagio> Jenn it'll read it right out of the box... you can look in google for some 'unsupported ways' to read AND write
[11:20] <whta> how can i get the game 2.0 beta through synaptic? is that possible yet?
[11:20] <whta> err, gaim*
[11:20] <digi_> quick question, where can you get the location of a mount? the folder is /media/sdc1 but there is no entry in fstab
[11:20] <jisatsu_> whta: it's there by default in Edgy as far as I know
[11:20] <Soulless> mcquaid: try http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions I get most of my info there
[11:21] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, i'm not sure how to solve that, possibly downloading & running Envy might install it for you
[11:21] <Rolm> !uptdate
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uptdate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <Rolm> !update
[11:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:21] <jmhodges> okay, since i need python and ruby support, is there a way to tell vim to swap in /usr/bin/vim.ruby when its a Ruby file and so on?
[11:22] <bimberi> digi_: 'df' will tell you (if it's mounted that is)
[11:22] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, you possibly need to change your xorg.conf back to "nv" instead of "nvidia" to give you a chance of getting back into gnome
[11:22] <sharperguy> whats the easiest way to find out what grub calls each drive/partition?
[11:22] <jmhodges> such that i don't have to remember to type in vim.ruby everytime i edit a ruby file?
[11:22] <bimberi> whta: what Ubuntu version? (Edgy has 2.0)
[11:22] <Berzerke1> I was using the vesa driver
[11:22] <digi_> bimberi: ty
[11:22] <bimberi> digi_: yw :)
[11:22] <whta> bimberi: ah i just realized i'm using the beta without knowing it, but it's up to beta 6 now and i have 3.1 :o
[11:22] <jrib> jmhodges: why not use vim.full?
[11:23] <jmhodges> vim.full?
[11:23] <Berzerke1> how do I totally uninstall the run pack driver
[11:23] <Smurphy[ACS] > Hia folks ...
[11:23] <Smurphy[ACS] > Anyone knows if there is a hardened php4 package for ubuntu LTS available ???
[11:23] <digi_> bimberi: doesnt show up there, could it be a link?
[11:23] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, right, i was assuming you'd been using nv, maybe just change back to vesa then - hopefully that should get you back to gnome
[11:23] <Berzerke1> it does, but it's a crappy video driver
[11:24] <jrib> jmhodges: make sure you do: sudo update-alternatives --config vim   to choose
[11:24] <Berzerke1> how would I uninstall the nvidia.com driver
[11:24] <jmhodges> jrib: before or after install it?
[11:24] <Marupa> what device does esd use as output?
[11:24] <jrib> !nvidia | Berzerke1
[11:24] <ubotu> Berzerke1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:24] <digi_> bimberi: its only one folder from the drive that is being shown
[11:24] <Marupa> is it /dev/dsp?
[11:24] <STUFFY10> how do i read my system mail
[11:24] <Berzerke1> not install
[11:24] <Berzerke1> uninstall
[11:24] <jrib> jmhodges: after.  It should already be set that way after you install it, but just in case
[11:24] <bimberi> digi_: not mounted then. Try 'mount'.  If it's not in that list it's definitely not mounted
[11:24] <Slart> STUFFY10: mail at command line
[11:24] <Soulless> Marupa: /dev/dsp
[11:24] <jmhodges> jrib: sweet thanks a ton
[11:25] <Marupa> Soulless, Ok, then how come darkice is getting dead air?
[11:25] <Soulless> Marupa: I think...
[11:25] <jrib> Berzerke1: how did you install it
[11:25] <scottness> hey folks...i'm looking for some help setting up a home network with a desktop and its printer, 2 laptops, and a wireless router...all 3 computers are running Ubuntu... i'd like to share files between the computers and share the desktop's printer...where do i start?
[11:25] <jmhodges> i love ubuntu
[11:25] <Slart> STUFFY10: there are switches to chose what users mail you want.. or you could do a sudo su and then mail
[11:25] <STUFFY10> Slart, I tried. mail: command not found
[11:25] <Berzerke1> using the run package
[11:25] <Berzerke1> from nvidia.com
[11:25] <Slart> STUFFY10: I'll be.. no mail here either.. I thought that was standard on a linux ssytem
[11:25] <digi_> bimberi: can i pm you?
[11:25] <jrib> Berzerke1: did you read the README?
[11:25] <Stallo> Can anyone help me with some questions about ethernet interfaces? pm
[11:26] <Berzerke1> what readme?
[11:26] <Berzerke1> there was no readme
[11:26] <STUFFY10> i dont think server edition has mail even
[11:26] <jrib> Berzerke1: check the site where you got it from
[11:26] <Slart> STUFFY10: then I have no idea... is mail functions installed at all? or is it just the client missing?
[11:26] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, i'd probably just modify the xorg.conf to have vesa instead of nvidia.  All i'd do after that would be a straight install that normally fixed any problems, failing that I'd use envy to uninstall & then reinstall
[11:26] <Soulless> marupa: gimme a minute...
[11:26] <cafuego_> Don't make the software choose an MTA for you, that'd be bad, pick your own.
[11:26] <bimberi> digi_: yep
[11:26] <Marupa> I _know_ I'm close...and it's maddening me.
[11:27] <scottness> as of right now... i can see the shared folders from the desktop through samba, but the contents cannot be displayed...i can't even find the folder i shared through nfs
[11:27] <cafuego_> STUFFY10: `mail' is part of the `mailx' package.
[11:27] <Berzerke1> the readme doesn't tell how to uninstall
[11:27] <cafuego_> ... and has nothing to do with being either a pop/imap or smtp server.
[11:28] <bimberi> digi_: you need to be registered though
[11:28] <STUFFY10> thanks cafuego.
[11:28] <bimberi> !register | digi_
[11:28] <ubotu> digi_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:28] <jrib> Berzerke1: run the install with --help maybe
[11:28] <Soulless> Marupa: ah... it's one of those irritating problems. I'm sure when you find a solution it's gonna be blindingly obvious
[11:28] <Berzerke1> would it work if the run pack was installed along side?
[11:28] <marcagio> how do I get the beta version of fiesty?
[11:28] <Marupa> Yeah, I know.
[11:28] <duelboot> yo
[11:28] <Berzerke1> or would it conflict
[11:28] <Marupa> maybe you'd like to help debug, Soulless/
[11:28] <dromer> can someone help me change the default theme for phpsysinfo? I kind of forgot (and can't find) how to do it :#
[11:29] <digi_> bimberi: join digihelp for a sec
[11:29] <duelboot> ubotu help /me
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help /me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <Soulless> Marupa: Why not, i have plenty of spare time.
[11:29] <Marupa> mind PMs?
[11:30] <Soulless> Marupa: ummm.... If they get through
[11:31] <makuseru> how do i fix the problem of flash objects in webpages being ontop of everything else
[11:31] <coiote> how to use the fsck on a live cd????
[11:32] <Marupa> sudo fsck
[11:32] <netham45> ok
[11:32] <coiote> well u mean go to a terminal and tipe that?
[11:32] <netham45> I misread that as sudo f**k
[11:33] <Marupa> Did you get those, Soulless?
[11:33] <erUSUL> coiote: you have to specify the target partition 'sudo fsck /dev/....'
[11:34] <Soulless> Marupa: did I get what?
[11:34] <Marupa> the PMs
[11:34] <Soulless> Marupa: quote: * Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[11:35] <Marupa> Huh.  weird.  I'm registered.
[11:35] <coiote> gracias erusul so, how i say before im new on it(but i have to say i love it)
[11:35] <Soulless> Marupa: I think it's just one of those days...
[11:36] <amayera> hi
[11:36] <amayera> what would you propose as secure md5-replacement for creating hashs?
[11:36] <HollywoodCode> Hey how do i find out the name of my local machine? anyone??
[11:36] <cafuego_> amayera: sha256 seems to be okay still
[11:36] <Jenn> HELP - Could it be that I'm getting a blank screen because the signals are going out through wrong ports?
[11:36] <jrib> HollywoodCode: hostname
[11:36] <Jenn> like to old monitor?
[11:37] <HollywoodCode> jrib, thank you!!!!
[11:37] <amayera> cafuego_: so I guess sha512 is even better?
[11:38] <cafuego_> amayera: You'll be wanting a tradeoff between security and speed... otherwise gpg the damn thing ;-)
[11:38] <ThaNerd> i have a problem with su... i can sudo, but can't su with the same password :s
[11:38] <slvmchn> is there a way to install ubuntu without having to burn the cds
[11:38] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: Yes, feature, not bug.
[11:39] <IdleOne> !install slvmchn
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install slvmchn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <amayera> cafuego_: ok. merci beaucoup.cu
[11:39] <Jenn> how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:39] <IdleOne> !install | slvmchn
[11:39] <ubotu> slvmchn: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:39] <ThaNerd> slvmchn: nope, unless installing on a virtual machine...
[11:39] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: sudo uses YOUR password, su uses the ROOT password, which is locked and nonexistent.
[11:39] <seggeh> approx. how much disk space does a normal install of the ubuntu desktop take up?
[11:39] <Jenn>  how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:39] <Jenn> HELP -  how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:39] <cafuego_> !repeat | jenn
[11:39] <ubotu> jenn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:39] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: but i think i could su with the same password, yesterday (or maybe i dreamed it?)
[11:40] <harry_> what are the differences between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server
[11:40] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: only if you set the root password to be that password.
[11:40] <bruenig> harry_, no gui for one
[11:40] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: Unless you perhaps used 'sudo su'
[11:40] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: possibly, by mistake ;-)
[11:41] <Jenn> HELP -  how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:41] <cafuego_> harry_: server has no desktop apps, and uses a kernel that doesn't have the non-free drivers available.
[11:41] <cafuego_> !repeat | jenn
[11:41] <ubotu> jenn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:41] <Jenn> !patience
[11:41] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:41] <abasinisvacant> ston
[11:42] <Jenn> !you rock
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you rock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: i know about insecurity of it, but how could i set the root password as the same as my own password?
[11:42] <IdleOne> !botabuse | Jenn
[11:42] <ubotu> Jenn: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:42] <hateyla> i want to upgrade my dapper to edgy 32bit.. so how can i upgrade.. and one more thing is that.. my connection is too much slow is there any possiblity to resume my update?
[11:42] <ar3ac> hi there
[11:42] <Centaur5> Can I run pxe boot ubuntu install, a local repository, and an apt-proxy server on the same machine?
[11:43] <ar3ac> i have a little problem with a usb storage
[11:43] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: 'sudo passwd' - better perhaps is to just "alias su=sudo"
[11:43] <ar3ac> when i plug it doesn't mount automatically
[11:43] <secion8> is there an svn for beryl on feisty fawn
[11:43] <james296> how can I log out of the Xserver? what do I type in the terminal to exit the X Server I mean
[11:43] <cafuego_> Jenn: Run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' on the console, and configure X with proper values.
[11:43] <ar3ac> i have to use a command line : mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/care
[11:43] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: actually, i would only su when i have several cp to do...
[11:44] <harry_> I had/have this odd problem with a network. I tried to do remote login to my computer from an edubuntu machine over a windoze network, but it won't show up in the list of hosts
[11:44] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: but thanks for the info, i'll sudo passwd
[11:44] <Jenn> HELP -  how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:44] <bruenig> !repeat | Jenn
[11:44] <bruenig> !repeat > Jenn
[11:44] <bruenig> ubotu, tell Jenn about repeat
[11:44] <ubotu> Jenn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:45] <james296> well?
[11:45] <__Lamont__> Jenn: Does you monitor show the BIOS post screen / etc?
[11:45] <secion8> i mean the url for the beryl svn feisty fawn
[11:45] <Jenn> I can get that to come up.
[11:45] <trond> Is there a commando for flushing memory in linux?
[11:45] <i3d> anyone knows how to show all supported framebuffer mode?
[11:45] <trond> Would save me from some reboots :)
[11:45] <Jenn> lamont, want me to?
[11:46] <james296> how do I exit the X server in the terminal?
[11:46] <Tsuroerusu> Hey, does a Linux swap partition have to be a primary partition?
[11:46] <__Lamont__> Hmm... I'm not an ubuntu or linux expert either -- wanted to be sure that the problem was really with the OS
[11:46] <bruenig> Tsuroerusu, no
[11:46] <Zenerek> question i upgraded my dapper and suddenly lost the tty device,slamr.ko,ungrab-winmodem.ko and slmodemd,I reinstall the packages go online again, I open opera go to a site then  I notice it sorta stutters and i am like wtf, i look at cpu usage monitor i have and see some major usage (more than i remember) , i have dialup so i was upgrading in sections and included lastnight was a newer kernal, is anyone noticing slowdown like me? even gaim 
[11:46] <__Lamont__> Jenn: At what point after boot does it go blank?
[11:46] <Tsuroerusu> bruenig: So I can create a logical partition and put all the Linux partitions in there?
[11:47] <trond> James26: killall -9 xorg?
[11:47] <Jenn> after the loading screen, right before the login screen.
[11:47] <bruenig> Tsuroerusu, yeah logical or primary is fine for any linux partition, be it / /home swap whatever
[11:47] <hateyla> Zenerek,  same problem with me want to update dapper to edgy.. so want to ask about resuming.
[11:47] <Tsuroerusu> bruenig: OK great, thanks for the answer! :)
[11:48] <Zenerek> uh hateyla could you say that again, i did not get what you were trying to say
[11:48] <Jenn> lamont, after the loading screen and right before the login screen.
[11:48] <pdq> First time on the forum. Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask. Is anyone using Beagle with samba?
[11:49] <eV64_> bill@nix-box:~$ sudo mysqladmin password somepassword
[11:49] <eV64_> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[11:49] <eV64_> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[11:49] <math> hello, i want to install ubuntu feisty from my usb-pen, like ones before, but for some reason i cant do this again
[11:49] <preaction> !paste | eV64_
[11:49] <ubotu> eV64_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <eV64_> thanks
[11:49] <math> i think it has something to do with the fat-type
[11:49] <hateyla> Zenerek,  u want to say u have slow connection .. thats why u take upgrade in parts ?
[11:50] <math> it says fat32 with fdisk -l, but i cant make it fat16...
[11:50] <preaction> eV64_: also, #mysql would be far more helpful. also, your mysqld isn't started or is on a different port
[11:50] <pros1>   when I type fglrxiinfo on my ati card I get the mesa3d string. No 3d accel it seems
[11:50] <Pollywog> eV64 the MySQL website has step by step instructions for configuring the initial accounts
[11:50] <pros1> edgy
[11:50] <Pollywog> I use them every time I reinstall
[11:50] <ppd> f020
[11:50] <__Lamont__> Jenn: Again, I believe there's a keyboard command that can get you to a terminal window -- X-windows-less login on most linus distros
[11:50] <Zenerek> yes i have a dialup modem, and i did take them in parts, last night one of those parts was a new kernel i think
[11:51] <eV64_> preaction: thanks
[11:51] <cjlowe> Hi, I have an issue; wondering if I've been root-kitted... I'm remoted into this machine with SSH, and ps aux or netstat both seem to kill SSH. console access is not an option at this point. chkrootkit doesn't see anything bad, but I thought I should ask...
[11:51] <mipstien> i need help please, is there anywhere that linux stores a CD that you open up, i lost a bunch of pictures and that last place i had it was on this computer
[11:51] <ppd> hi. does anyone know a panel that uses the freedesktop.org menu specification?
[11:51] <Zenerek> truth i am not even done with all the updates
[11:51] <math> any ideas....?\
[11:51] <Lgndryhr> hi
[11:51] <__Lamont__> Jenn: I'm (right now) trying to replace the motherboard on my one Ubuntu box, so I can't try them - google for that or ask if anyone here knows how to find it, maybe -- just to see if you can confirm that Ubuntu IS running, and there's just an XWindows problem
[11:52] <hateyla> Zenerek,  asking same thing i want to upgrade my distro . dapper to edgy but my connection is slow .. so want to ask about resuming in upgrade distro.
[11:52] <Pollywog> Jenn: can you login at a console?
[11:52] <__Lamont__> Jenn: If you can find the right ocmmand, but can't login on the raw terminal, then your problem maybe isn't the monitor
[11:52] <someothernick> ctrl alt backspace
[11:52] <Lgndryhr> i am wondering if it is possible to allow my windows HD to see and access my ubuntu HD just to copy stuff from it like I am able to do in ubuntu
[11:53] <__Lamont__> Pollywog: That's what I was trying to get him to check, but I can't recall the command to switch to the console-only
[11:53] <cjlowe> Lgndryhr, go to www.fs-driver.org and install the ext2 driver :)
[11:53] <Skaag> Hey guys
[11:53] <Skaag> how do I install Ubuntu 6.10 with Raid1?
[11:53] <cjlowe> Lgndryhr, then go to the IFS Drives control panel and give your linux partition a drive letter
[11:53] <Pollywog> ctrl-alt-Fx
[11:53] <Skaag> I have two drives, I want a raid mirror configuration
[11:53] <Pollywog> ctrl-alt-F1 for example
[11:53] <alberto> Hallo
[11:53] <__Lamont__> Jenn: Did you get that?
[11:54] <Lgndryhr> k thanks cjlowe
[11:54] <Pollywog> is Jenn using Nvidia?
[11:54] <Zenerek> ok I understand what you mean now, I don't think you can resume, unless anyone wants to correct me? but i plan on staying with dapper anyway, it is supported till 2009, why do you want to change to edgy?
[11:54] <mipstien> This is Urgent please someone, is there any folder that linux uses to store things that you have opened from a CD???
[11:54] <bafoc> Pollywog: yes mx440 on a P-III 800mhz
[11:55] <ubuntu> e
[11:55] <cjlowe> mipstien, linux, like everything else, tends to just read straight from the cd
[11:55] <preaction> mipstien: no, you're screwed.
[11:55] <Pollywog> k and he/she edited the xorg.conf file?
[11:55] <hateyla> Zenerek,  heared about too much .. so want to try it too :p
[11:55] <__Lamont__> While I'm here.... anyone have experience with a Motherboard replacement -- seems the new MB doesn't see the OS... I'm thinking the Bootloader is gone
[11:55] <preaction> mipstien: or, check the /tmp directory?
[11:55] <mipstien> arg, probably just ruined my marriage :(
[11:55] <Pollywog> to replace nv with nvidia in xorg.conf
[11:55] <ubuntu> o srbi
[11:55] <jvai> nipstein, try your image viewer in "graphics"
[11:55] <bafoc> Pollywog No, she had to run the alternative installer because the liveCD wouldn't work
[11:55] <preaction> mipstien: maybe a program you opened the files up in stored something in your /tmp directory
[11:55] <Pollywog> k
[11:55] <hateyla> Zenerek,  same problem with me want to update dapper to edgy.. so want to ask about resuming. can i resume ?
[11:55] <xipietotec> has anyone ever setup an eggdrop in ubuntu? I have no idea where to put the config files?
[11:56] <Skaag> is there an alternative installer that can create a raid1 for me instead of seeing my /dev/sda and /dev/sba as two different drives?
[11:56] <hateyla> Zenerek,  sorry msg not for you.
[11:56] <Zano> Radeon x1900xtx, Core2Duo, Asus p5b motherboard and a Seagata barracuda HDD, Burnt the Ubuntu ISO to a disk and booted from it, chose "Start or install Ubuntu" was treated with the loadingscreen, which stayed the same for five minutes, then froze.. What did I do wrong?
[11:56] <Skaag> I do have a HostRaid adapter
[11:56] <Pollywog> bafoc has she tried to use the startx command in a console with the session manager off?
[11:56] <ubuntu> bad cd\
[11:56] <bafoc> Pollywog: Every time she boots the screen goes blank, even after going into single usermod, she won't get a command prompt..
[11:56] <hateyla> i want to upgrade my dapper to edgy 32bit.. but my connection is too much slow is there any possiblity to resume my update?
[11:56] <Zano> Bad CD? Oh, I'll try that "check your CD" thing
[11:56] <YokoZar> Ok, I make the Wine packages, could someone please tell me what the libgphoto2-2 issue is?
[11:57] <bafoc> Pollywog: She can't CTRL+ATL+F* to get a shell... the screen just stays black...
[11:57] <Pollywog> k
[11:57] <__Lamont__> Skaag: I thought the regualr Ubuntu installer would do Software RAID... I
[11:57] <ubuntu> or cd rom
[11:57] <Pollywog> got it
[11:57] <Frogzoo> hateyla: update is hit & miss anyway without restarting the process, it might work, it might not
[11:57] <Skaag> __Lamont__: It just sees my /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and does not give me that option.. asks me to choose one of them...
[11:58] <hateyla> Frogzoo,  if in updating time my Connections goes d/c then ? its going update from start?
[11:58] <__Lamont__> Skaag: I recall the process being tricky, but I have been under the impression that until my MB died, I had done it with Breezy
[11:58] <Skaag> __Lamont__: I ran mdadm myself and created the /dev/md0 device, and it's now creating a raid array using both drives
[11:58] <Zenerek> I know how slow dialup can be last night i had to download about 110 mb  it took 6 or seven hours and my dialup was as fast as it could go
[11:58] <harry__> The XDMCP Chooser from the login screen that lets you log into other computers won't show the other ubuntu box on the network
[11:59] <Skaag> __Lamont__: but until it's done creating the array, I won't know if the installer will actually see that logical volume...
[11:59] <Skaag> __Lamont__: do you remember if that's how it works?
[11:59] <killaz> one more time: can someone help me with the dual monitor on my gfx-card?
[11:59] <Pollywog> Jenn is this a laptop?
[11:59] <Frogzoo> hateyla: shouldn't do
[12:00] <Skaag> killaz: did you try the #ubuntu-xgl channel? the people there actually know more about that kinda thing
[12:00] <Skaag> killaz: there's also an nvidia specific channel
[12:00] <__Lamont__> Skaag: That sounds familiar - I even took some pics of one of my attempts (took me a few attempts to get it right as I recall... Unfortunatley they're on the drives on the server with the dead MB I'm trying to replace :p
[12:00] <hateyla> Frogzoo,  is any another way to update? with Resume?
[12:00] <Zano> ubuntu, i did a md5 checksum on the disk and theres no problem with it.
[12:00] <Skaag> __Lamont__: figures, just my kinda luck!! :)
[12:00] <Zano> I'll repeat my problem.
[12:00] <Frogzoo> hateyla: visit a friend with broadband?