[12:46] what include line do I add for cdbs + cmake in debian/rules? I'm looking at decibel's cmake.mk... dunno if there are any other's I should look at... [12:57] kde4libs, should be the same [12:57] copy, paste [12:57] just a couple of lines in debian/rules to worry about === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:00] Riddell: kk [01:00] thanks :) === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p54974A5D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === wsjunior_ [n=wsjunior@201.24.45.104] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@42.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:50] Riddell: I just saw that the ark mimetypes issue was my fault..... sorry for this :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] I thought that as long as a package included the .pot files LP/Rosetta would automatically import them for translations [02:09] well, LP/Rosetta is still showing old templates for the kubuntu-docs package [02:10] it should, although I'm not sure how complete the feisty .pot import process is [02:10] I can poke carlos tomorrow if you like [02:11] Riddell: yes please, it is kind of unnerving [02:11] it seems the ubuntu-docs have already imported, but the kubuntu docs haven't [02:11] I am in Washingto DC until Wednesday, so I will be checking in when possible :) === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] hi freeflying [02:33] freeflying: I installed Kubuntu in chinese today. it ends up using scim and not skim, and the problem of missing chinese characters seems to go away [02:35] Riddell: becasue scim provide conffine for im-switch. [02:36] Riddell: and now the Latin character here is too ugly [02:36] yes, the font is quite nasty for latin [02:36] what is conffine? [02:37] Riddell: configure file for im-switch to set up scim [02:39] freeflying: mm, that should be in libscim then, not scim [02:40] Riddell: we used to use scim-pinyin to set up scim, but the maintainer of scim provide a im-switch's configure file, and its priority is high then scim-pinyins [02:40] but he hasn't consider of skim, because he dosen't use skim [02:40] humph [02:40] how do I get it to use skim then? === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:41] Riddell: drop the configure file from scim, or merge scim-pinyin's to scim, or low the priority of scim's [02:42] hmm, all feisty+1 work now [02:42] freeflying: do you know what the font used for chinese characters is for chinese locale and english locale? [02:43] Riddell: ttf-arphic-uming for Chiense, and Bitstream , Dejavu for Latin [02:44] freeflying: under english settings chinese web pages etc have missing characters, but under chinese settings they don't [02:44] I don't see how that can happen unless they're using different fonts [02:45] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/chinese-qt-3.3.8.png missing [02:45] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/chinese-qt-3.3.8-2.png no missing [02:45] Riddell: but using qt-3.3.7, we can have Chinese characters displayed well under English locale [02:47] Riddell: I used to use en_US.UTF-8 locale on my laptop [02:48] sure, Irt [02:48] hmm, scim can get in the way :) [02:48] sure, I still plan to revert [02:49] but it would be helpful to know what the difference is to track down why one works and the other doesn't [02:49] Riddell: and skim has problems too, for the priority of im-switch's start, now its 80im-switch in /etc/X11/Xsesison.d [02:50] Riddell: seems qt-3.3.8 only know latin fonts configure if you use a latin locale :) === cyt [n=cyt@linux.cs.ccu.edu.tw] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === naught101 [n=naught10@dhcp-unknown-165-236.newcastle.edu.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] Have you seen this nice spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/minix-kernel-based-ubuntu [03:52] how interesting === ajmitch presumes that person hasn't done a proper comparison of minix & linux [03:54] well, there is a debian/hurd project I think. *chuckle* [03:54] sure, and that's quite a lot more useful than minix [03:55] ever tried compiling kde on minix? :) [03:55] i can't say I have === ajmitch knows that people have built at least the core parts of kde on the hurd [03:56] http://www.h1.org/~ncryer/kde.png [03:56] I feel liek it can't be that bad, I mean, how many system calls does KDE really need to make [03:57] in the book "just for fun" linus says that he started the real development on linux after he overwrote his minix partition because he did not want to do all the patching of minix to get i in runnable shape again :-) [03:57] it's things like qt's support of pthreads, for example [03:57] and various things that are defined slightly differently or not at all [03:57] ask bddebian :) [03:59] hmm :-) [04:01] HURD is already usable? O.o [04:01] i'm just running over a lot of bugs that are neither assigned nor confirmed nor solved nor "underfeed" with information and are in "needs info" status and had no love in the last 3 months. I'm really tempted to reject them. But i do not want to frustrate the original reporters though [04:02] it is really a difficult situation [04:02] rbrunhuber: I think the wiki has some "templates" on how to politely say that you're closing a bug [04:03] Jucato: I already know the templates. May i give you a few examples to decide with me wether to reject or keep open. [04:04] sure, let me try some :) === Jucato did his triaging last week... marked a few as needs info... [04:05] So the fun begins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/50863 [04:05] Malone bug 50863 in ubiquity "Crash installing onto memory stick" [Undecided,Needs info] [04:06] and the next one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/48873 [04:06] Malone bug 48873 in ubiquity "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Needs info] [04:07] rbrunhuber: the first one doesn't have a comment asking for updated info. might be good to ask for more info first. imho === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:09] Jucato: Yes maybe. But in the worst case this adds another 3 months of sitting around for nothing. [04:10] well at least if he doesn't add any info in a month, we could close the bug and point that we asked for updated info :) [04:11] rbrunhuber: as for the second bug, not sure but seems like cjwatson has some more info that he hasn't added to the bug (judging by the last comment) [04:12] Jucato: Can't we just do both in one run? Reject it and ask in the reject message for more information. This kicks the unneeded bugs out and the others get reopened? [04:13] Jucato: I agree with you that we should leave the second alone. [04:13] hm.. imho.. it looks like we're too anxious to close bugs... [04:14] maybe the guys in #ubuntu-bugs could give better advise.. [04:14] rbrunhuber: the second one should probably be "pinged" to cjwatson though... [04:14] a short comment to bump it (but cjwatson isn't subscribed...) [04:15] Jucato: what do you mean? Assign or subscribe him? [04:16] ping him in irc? I don't really know the procedure for this... assigning the bug or subscribing him w/o his knowledge might seem rude... but not really sure... === Jucato brb [04:18] Jucato: Colin will get notified because he is owner of the ubuntu installer team [04:18] ah kool [04:19] Jucato: No is the question what to write in the comment? [04:19] er... brb really [04:19] sorry [04:19] oi! === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950A2CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db444b3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [i=5391CPZl@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@dslb-082-083-152-046.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.72.136] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495766E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gamemank [n=yuriy@dyn-129-64-200-84.wireless-bg.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink_ [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-77156.0x5734b54a.naenxx12.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mjunx [n=matt@adsl-70-131-148-36.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luka74 [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:47] <_StefanS_> hi there [10:47] Hi _StefanS_ [10:48] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: hey bluetooth guy [10:48] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: :) === luka74 is now known as Lure [10:49] _StefanS_ : Someone has to pick this up! [10:49] <_StefanS_> Riddell: are you there ? [10:50] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I have a question regarding the packaging of kbluetooth [10:50] _StefanS_: Starts getting interesting :-) [10:51] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: lets hope he's there :) === xerosis [n=xerosis@lf063.cs.man.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:56] _StefanS_ : Did you have a further look in the issue? [10:56] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: nothing besides it doesnt work for me either [10:56] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: I cant remember; did you file a bug on it ? [10:57] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: in launchpad [10:57] yes I filed bug 89291 [10:57] Malone bug 89291 in kdebluetooth "Kubuntu Feisty does not ask for bluetooth pin. Pinhelpers seem not to work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89291 [10:57] <_StefanS_> ok fine === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:02] ryanakca: hwo'd you go with ksudoku? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@42.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:05] ah yes, i remember why i was going to take care fo ksudoku === Hobbsee suspects that should probably wait for the next release === Jucato wonders why Filelight 1.0 didn't make it into feisty... [12:07] hi [12:07] heya Tonio_! [12:07] hi Tonio_!!!! === Jucato waves at Hobbsee [12:07] Jucato: because no one attended to it, and debian never packaged the latest version. [12:08] hence it didnt sync === Hobbsee surfs [12:08] oh... [12:08] that's... um... curious... [12:08] Hobbsee: ryanakca was looking at ksudoku I think [12:08] Hobbsee: I dropped it because I had to study for my science test this morning, but I'll work on it again tonight [12:08] considering 1.0 fixes the annoying "crash on exit" bug [12:09] ryanakca: once debian packages the new version, its' a direct sync. [12:09] ah [12:09] so, no need to package it? [12:10] or package it and ship it to the debian maintainer? [12:10] ryanakca: not if we wait till feisty+1 [12:10] i'd prefer to see some work being done on basket, actuallly [12:10] ah, this is for the sourceforge/kdeapps website... === Hobbsee still needs to file a uvfe for that, make packages, etc. [12:10] which will also end up on revu for feisty+1 [12:11] ryanakca: it shouldnt, if people are following procedure. [12:11] what shouldn't? [12:12] ksudoku on revu? [12:12] ryanakca: ie, no one should be putting it on REVU for feisty+1, because it's a merge, it'll be on merges.ubuntu.com and my name will be on it, as i'm the last uploader [12:12] ah [12:12] and if people are following procedure, they will not touch other people's merges without asking. === Hobbsee happens to know that that's a direct sync. === ryanakca curses the 5 spam emails that gmail let threw [12:13] kk === Hobbsee is also the only person that's touched that package in ubuntu [12:13] heh. yes, [12:13] gmail's getting worse for spam [12:13] well, do we tell the get the package for sourceforge/kdeapps? or do we just wait for some debian guy to do it? === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] Much worse... [12:15] ryanakca: the suggested method would be to file a wishlist bug to say that there's a new version [12:15] *nods* [12:16] And then... the guy gets his package by... ? [12:16] ajmitch: how do i report a bug to debian, with reportbug? [12:16] ryanakca: which guy? [12:16] Hobbsee: the upstream author, *points to the message in the k-d mailing list* [12:16] ah, right. === Hobbsee saw that a few days ago - didnt really remember what it was about === Hobbsee looks [12:17] Hobbsee: yes, reportbug, it should have a debian setting or something :) [12:18] ajmitch: it defaults to ubuntu, iirc. [12:18] yep [12:18] there's a -B option to tell it which bts to go to [12:18] I can't remember the setting it needs though [12:18] ah, yes, i see [12:19] Hobbsee: here, how's this, I package it for upstream, send a copy of the package sources to the debian maintainer... he can take them if he wants, or ditch them if he doesn't want them and take care of it himself, and then you can sync it in +1 [12:20] ryanakca: you can if you like. i'm filing that bug now. i honestly think there are more important things for kubuntu before feisty's release, but i cant tell you what to do. [12:21] kk, well, what can I do? [12:22] ryanakca: there's a new release of basket. if you could package that, that'd be great [12:22] okay, bug report sent [12:23] okies, will look at that === ryanakca puts it on his todo === ryanakca wonders what basket is... but... I'll find out later [12:23] (which we can send straight to debian) [12:23] ryanakca: also, you use kdepim, right? [12:23] yep === Hobbsee needs to fix some bugs in that, including the dreaded evil one... === ryanakca has to go to school... [12:24] just waiting a bit to see if it really fixes the problem [12:24] okay, bye! [12:24] ah, umm... I'll probably be back in 2 hours and a half... see you then? [12:24] maybe. i'll likely be asleep by then :) [12:25] lol [12:25] night night then :) === ryanakca gone === Hobbsee wonders hwo to use the alioth stuff === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-71-201.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:27] Hobbsee: The last person who spoke this often in the third person from himself took a bad end. First he got ruler of rome then he was stabbed by his lad. [12:28] Hobbsee: :-) [12:28] rbrunhuber: hmm? [12:30] Hobbsee: Just a joke. But the on the first glance the channel seemed to by those / me posts from you. [12:31] ahhh. === Hobbsee is weird like that, yes. [12:31] Hobbsee: Oops you did it again :-P [12:31] i know [12:32] Hobbsee: you, weird? [12:33] ajmitch: yes. === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-64-218.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:35] fabo: you around? [12:35] probably not.... [12:35] [22:34] [Whois] fabo has been idle for 15 hours, 27 minutes, and 17 seconds. === naught101 [n=naught10@60-242-222-210.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:44] who is working on the kubuntu splash artwork? [12:46] naught101: kwwii === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-77156.0x5734b54a.naenxx12.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:47] hi Riddell - any plans to change kdepim in the next few days? [12:47] Hobbsee: no, we're frozen for beta [12:47] what would you like changed? [12:48] Riddell: upstream finally fixed the bug whcih stops kmail working for all imap users - people are testing it now [12:48] so i'd prefer to put it in in a few days time, along with any other misc fixes that seem important that i find [12:48] Hobbsee: I might take a branch patch after beat [12:48] Riddell: branch patch? [12:48] if upstream think it good [12:49] kwwii: have you noticed the optical illusion during the boot-up pecentage bar run? the blue bit looks narrower than the black... [12:52] naught101: yeah, I noticed that - I'll fix it soon === Hobbsee likes the new uslpash [12:54] cool. looks great otherwise [12:54] thanks :-) [12:54] I would like to see the ability to press a key and escape the splash back to the command line bootup, like you could in windows 95/98 [12:55] it's not really useful, but it's a cool feature [12:55] ;-) [12:56] <_StefanS_> Riddell: do you have any idea on that bluetooth thing ? [12:56] Riddell: any plans for kdelibs ? I've a package here ready for upload, once the freeze ends [12:56] <_StefanS_> hey Tonio_ [12:56] fixes missing mimetypes [12:56] hi _StefanS_ :) === n8k99_ [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:02] Tonio_: nope, what's do you have? [01:02] _StefanS_: can't say I do [01:02] Tonio_: what missing mimetypes? [01:03] Lure: saw the post annoucing you in MOTU, congratulations [01:03] <_StefanS_> Riddell: well I can confirm there is a problem though, but why it wont launch that pin_helper is really wierd. I tried to modify all sorts of things in the config to avoid dbus, but I dont know enough about it to determine whether it is the problem [01:03] Riddell: thanks - did my first upload (kpowersave) yesterday ;-) [01:05] _StefanS_: hi :) [01:05] <_StefanS_> Lure: was kpowersave going to replace the current thing (kde-guidance ?) [01:05] <_StefanS_> Jucato: hey [01:05] <_StefanS_> Jucato: you still up ? :) [01:06] at 8:00pm? yeah :D [01:06] _StefanS_: was too late for feisty. maybe in feisty+1 [01:06] iirc [01:06] <_StefanS_> Jucato: oh yes, I usually catch you later :) [01:06] _StefanS_: I didn't realize I had a "bug" for you (noted last week) :D === _StefanS_ enters invisible mode [01:07] _StefanS_: in the logout dialog box (or is it a popup? :D), you can't use the cursor keys to navigate? bug or to be implemented? [01:07] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: well the current one for feisty is called kde-guidance, right ? - because mine dissappeared at some point [01:07] Riddell: we patch for nzb mimetype, very usefull in some cases, but it is not installed since Makefile.am needs patching [01:08] _StefanS_: guidance-power-manager iiirc [01:08] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: thanks [01:08] not an important patch in fact, pretty little thing [01:09] _StefanS_: no, guidance is default for feisty, but kpowersave is there if you like it more [01:09] _StefanS_: guidance-power-manager, in kde-guidance-powermanager package [01:10] Riddell: any news regarding k3b? === Lure would really love to have it in [01:10] Lure: no reply yet, it'll be after beta I guess [01:10] <_StefanS_> Lure: got it installed now, thanks [01:10] Riddell: no problem if after beta, just that we get it in ;-) [01:11] <_StefanS_> Lure: dont know why I would need kpowersave ... seems like its got alot more options [01:11] _StefanS_: my problem with kpowersave is that it has too many options and may confuse user [01:11] _StefanS_: see my reasoning here: http://dkukawka.blogspot.com/2007/03/kpowersave-debian-kubuntu-packages.html [01:12] Riddell, naught101: commiting a new active progress bar [01:12] <_StefanS_> Lure: yes.. I like the simplicity guidance powermanager offers, but then i'm not much into powersaving generally, even though I only have laptops [01:12] kewl [01:12] will check out in the morning :) [01:12] kwwii: oops I think I forgot to file that usplash bug I mentioned to you :( [01:12] great :-) [01:12] Jucato: which one? [01:12] can't believe I just spelled "cool" like that... [01:13] hehe [01:13] kwwii: there the bootsplash is broken if you remove the "quiet" option from menu.lst [01:13] Jucato: we changed the colors of the text [01:14] kwwii: um... I think the position of the text is the one that was broken... but I haven't checked again this morning when I booted the PC [01:14] Jucato: or does it not work at all? [01:14] Jucato: you mean the the text overlaps the progress bar on your resolution? [01:15] yes. and causes the bootsplash to have multiple progress bars [01:15] now that sounds funky [01:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: The effect for the background in kdesu works, however the 'kdesu' dialog itself does not respond to being set as a popup (to have it display on top of the faded backgound). The solution as I see it would be to code a new similar dialog, and use that instead of KPasswordDialog-class, which seems to have a will of its own. How you do feel about that ? [01:15] Jucato: test it with the latest packages and we'll see what we can do [01:15] ok. I'll have to reboot to test it. I'll do so in a few minutes === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:16] _StefanS_: sounds too much for a post beta change [01:17] <_StefanS_> Riddell: well yes, if you think about it ... it might introduce bugs. But I can't understand why KPasswordDialog won't be a popup, had some guys over at #qt look at it too, but everything compiles, but the dialog does not change its type. [01:18] <_StefanS_> Riddell: really wierd... and I'm starting to hate those specific K* implementations of Qt basic classes [01:18] oh dear. this group of patches is going to be big :( [01:21] <_StefanS_> Riddell: so I guess your opinion would be to use KPasswordDialog if I can get it working, or else wait for feisty+1 if we need to code a dialog of our own (?) [01:22] Riddell: hi! i would like to report you a problem i saw at least twice a week on ubuntu-fr forum. Many people come and say i can log into kde! i see kdm but never kde. And almost every time the problem comes from /var/cache/apt/archives/ wich is full of .deb files couldn't you add something like a apt-get autoclean for this problem ? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:24] afaik, apt-get clean is run daily. [01:25] Riddell: we also have to remove that scim gtk thing from the kmenu [01:25] Riddell: should we really ship with it ? [01:25] <_StefanS_> wow Riddell must be typing alot now .. [01:25] Jucato: since feisty ? [01:26] marseillai_: since edgy or dapper, from what I've been told [01:26] Jucato: so it doesn't work for me and MANY people [01:27] marseillai_: Is that a desktop specific problem? [01:27] I actually don't check if it runs daily.... [01:27] You might want to file a bug on launchpad for that [01:27] sebas: not really but in fact yes beacause synaptic does this and not adept [01:27] sebas: a lot of people have been getting into this trouble lately in #kubuntu too [01:27] they can't login because their / is full [01:28] Some autoclean mechanism in adept_updater might help then. [01:28] sebas: exactly [01:29] marseillai_: You could start by adding this to a FAQ where it's easy to find. [01:29] sebas: done! but people reading faq often have a cron for that! ;) [01:30] Did you look into adept's source? [01:30] nop [01:30] Tonio_: where in the menu? [01:30] Riddell: configuration, there is a Scim config tool that appeared a week ago [01:30] just before beta freeze === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] what's the library required for crypto> [01:31] ? [01:31] marseillai_: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/25adept-archive-limits should do that [01:31] Riddell: that's part of the scim package we depend on, I'll patch the desktop file [01:32] Tonio_: we don't depend on scim [01:32] hi Tonio_ === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:32] Riddell: hum......... how did that come then ? [01:32] hey kwwii ;) [01:32] Riddell: kubuntu-desktop recommends it, so it is installed by default I guess [01:32] Tonio_: if you install a language that needs scim then it'll install [01:33] scim-qtimm, skim only [01:33] Riddell: I don't have chinese or japanese here :) [01:33] Riddell: hum right.......... strange........; let's remove it to find out where does that come from........ maybe an issue with french packages [01:33] kwwii: just rebooted. the boot messages text color was changed to blue right? (imho, kinda bit difficult to read). anyway still got the funky usplash bug I mentioned :) [01:34] Jucato: you should definitely report a bug [01:34] Jucato: I changed that, before it was coming up as close to black for me [01:34] as I have no idea why several progress bars are showing :-( [01:34] Riddell: removed it , no issue........ maybe some strange dependancies on a package I've tested last week.... [01:34] Riddell: ah [01:34] thanks riddell i'll take a look at that [01:34] kwwii: and it's showing up in the middle of the screen, not below the progress bar [01:35] Jucato: but are you seeing more than one progress bar? [01:35] kwwii: yes :) [01:35] and more than 4 of them... the progress bars are scrolling w/ the text too :D [01:35] ouch [01:35] please, enter a bug [01:35] will do === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:36] I can't wait to start on multimedia with feisty+1.... so many things to do there... [01:36] :) [01:37] Tonio_: indeed! [01:38] kwwii: looks like it has been reported already in bug 78324 [01:38] Malone bug 78324 in usplash "non-quiet mode text scrolls over progress bar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78324 [01:40] Jucato: which resolution are you running? [01:41] um... how do I check? I guess it would be 1024x768 (the highest this thing can use) [01:42] kwwii: I think that bug is a bit different from what I'm experiencing, but the general behavior is the same... [01:42] I'm not sure if the bug reporter is using feisty or not [01:43] Hobbsee: lots of libraries work with crypto [01:43] Jucato: well, I'll see what I can do [01:43] kwwii: I won't file a separate bug then? [01:44] Jucato: no need, it seems [01:44] ok. I'll just add my comments on that bug and mark it as confirmed [01:45] Riddell: doesnt appear to be any that actually work with kleopatra though [01:45] Jucato: cool [01:46] done :) [01:46] Jucato: the biggest problem with fixing this is that to do it, one has to rebuild the usplash again and again and test it :-) [01:46] ouch... [01:47] yeah, you can say that loudly - not exactly what an artist wants to spend his time on [01:47] :( [01:53] <_StefanS_> kwwii: I can help you test it if you like [01:55] _StefanS_: were you able to get that "bug" I mentioned? (just checking) [01:55] or rather question [01:55] <_StefanS_> Jucato: eh what bug ? [01:55] <_StefanS_> Jucato: must have missed it [01:56] logout dialog. you can't use cursor keys. bug or future feature? :) [01:56] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well that was solved long time ago [01:56] <_StefanS_> Jucato: did we talk about that? [01:56] <_StefanS_> did/didnt [01:56] ah just wasn't uploaded yet or something? [01:57] <_StefanS_> Jucato: should be.. [01:57] hm... [01:58] <_StefanS_> let me check [01:59] must be almost time for me to remove the edgy chroot, if feisty's almost done [01:59] anyway, now that I've told you, I'm deleting the note from basket :D [01:59] must be time for a new name, too... [02:04] <_StefanS_> Jucato: the arrow keys work for me [02:04] hm... [02:04] <_StefanS_> Jucato: in both feistys I have here [02:04] allee: FYI, there is a little bug in digikam with servicemenus desktop file [02:04] hm.. it might be the widget style that I'm using... let me check [02:05] <_StefanS_> Jucato: that should have any effect I think.. [02:05] allee french translation contains iso chars so it won't work correctly... [02:05] Tonio_: the UTF-8 encoding [02:05] <_StefanS_> Jucato: shouldn't ! [02:05] <_StefanS_> Jucato: damn .. keyboard day [02:05] allee yes I just did the patch, I'll ping you and upstream once tested to fix [02:05] allee I'll upload to ubuntu once the freeze ends [02:05] _StefanS_: won't hur to try :) [02:05] Tonio_: it's fixed in svn already [02:05] hurt* [02:06] allee, hum let's diff with svn then ;) [02:06] <_StefanS_> Jucato: ofcourse not [02:06] Tonio_: kde svn, not alitoh svn [02:06] allee yep, I'll merge the diff then [02:06] _StefanS_: see I was right. it's because of my beautiful widget style :) [02:06] <_StefanS_> Jucato: which one is that ? [02:06] Tonio_: great! I'm busy with fai fixes currently [02:07] _StefanS_: Domino [02:07] <_StefanS_> Jucato: is it any good? could you post me a screenshot ? [02:07] of Domino? [02:08] let me get from KDE-Look [02:08] <_StefanS_> Jucato: yes, I just saw it there [02:08] <_StefanS_> Jucato: nevermind, I will try it now [02:08] allee will send you the patch for debian [02:09] <_StefanS_> Jucato: do you know of a current beryl installation howto for feisty ? [02:09] um nope... [02:10] _StefanS_: it's going thru main now - just wait [02:10] er, NEW, not main [02:10] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: what does that mean? === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db444b3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:11] lol! it would never be in main right? at least not until it gets the licensing stuff ironed out [02:11] _StefanS_: archive admisn are picking over it, checkign it's OK, before they put it into feisty [02:11] hopefully not [02:11] and they've done a lot of work, with MOTU [02:11] <_StefanS_> oka === xerosis_ [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis_ is now known as xerosis === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm136.omega23.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:26] Hi all [02:27] heya! [02:28] allee do you have svn access to digikam ? [02:28] Tonio_: yes [02:28] allee french translation is a bit ugly, I'd like to fix it [02:29] allee great I'll send you a diff then [02:29] Tonio_: well, I'm a bit confused about the i18n handling of the desktop files. Normaly scripty extracts them and later merges translations back. Something is borked in this respect currently. [02:30] Tonio_: send me the patch and I try to clarify the procedure [02:30] allee sure. [02:31] allee well the point is that the french translation has a big grammar issue so.......... ;) [02:31] do what you can with the patch, but I'll fix it for ubuntu at least ;) [02:31] Tonio_: hehe [02:33] allee alle(at)ubuntu.com ? === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] Tonio_: allee@kubuntu.org or u.c whatever you prefer === Hobbsee waves the magic wand at allee === allee is stupified [02:34] hi Hobbsee [02:34] heh [02:34] allee email sent [02:34] heya allee! [02:35] Hobbsee: good news for you. digikam enhanced the read eye correction tool. So maybe there's a hope for the picutre you send me ... ;) [02:35] I'm testing Kubuntu WinFOSS on a Win 2000 install. For Scribus I'm told that people who don't run WinXP yu need to download GDI+ which takes you to a Microsoft site, which in turn wants to run a Genuine Windows validation check ... [02:35] allee: yay! [02:35] allee: take decent pics in spain. that's easy. [02:35] all in all, quite nasty [02:35] heno: ugh [02:36] Hobbsee: I'll try my best, but have not much hope. I know my shots [02:36] allee: :) [02:36] allee: more importantly, did you want to handle the new basket? [02:37] heno: sounds like a good reson for people to move to Kubuntu [02:38] _StefanS_: cool riddel showed up [02:38] Hobbsee: not right now. I'm fighting to get fai into shape for feisty. [02:38] Riddell: true. Are you happy with that? I could add some explanatory text [02:38] allee: fair enough [02:38] like have done with Java for OOo in the past [02:39] Jucato: can you do this for me? "cat /etc/usplash.conf" [02:39] 'this application requires a library ...' [02:39] heno: it's no ideal but I can't think of a better way, some text in the winfoss app explaining it would be good [02:39] kwwii: ah 800x600 [02:39] ok [02:40] Anyway, it's basically a dupe of bug #1 :) (or a side-effect of it) [02:42] heno : lol [02:46] ooh, but it's really nasty. The way MS wants to validate win Win install is via the browser, which in turn means installing an MS Genuine Advantage plugin in *Firefox* [02:46] that's really nasty :( [02:48] MS install a firefox plugin? [02:48] or there is a plugin that has to be installed for MS to allow you to use your computer? [02:49] Jucato: and what size/res monitor do you have? [02:49] Riddell: yes, it's called windows. [02:49] *g* [02:50] kwwii: 14", max res is 1024x768 [02:50] Jucato: freaky...I cannot figure out why it does that [02:50] Jucato: the numbers seem to show that it should not overlap [02:50] :( [02:51] usplash.conf xres=800 yres=600. that means usplash is using 800x600 right? :( [02:51] the progress bar starts at 321 (down from the top) and it 8 pixels high, so it goes to 329...but the text box starts at 407 [02:51] Jucato: yes [02:52] weird... [02:52] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/temp/genuineAdvantage.png === Jucato just hates it when pixel computates just don't line up as expected :( [02:52] MS Wants me to install their plugin in firefox and use that to validate my windows install [02:53] before I can download GDI+ which is needed for Scribus [02:53] heno: well, nice to know they support free software I guess [02:54] Jucato: forget that, I found the problem [02:54] yeah, I'll validate with Explorer thanks [02:54] well, I didn't find it, but I will fix it :-) [02:54] kwwii: ooh nice ;) [02:54] Don't want any MS plugins in firefox [02:55] I guess I can safely assume that there is no malware on on the MS site? :) [02:55] (depends on your definition I guess) [02:57] abattoir: new oem-installer is lovely [02:57] Riddell: aah, saw me update the wiki? thanks :) [02:57] Riddell: but it's mainly due to kwwii's wallpaper :) [02:57] :) [02:57] abattoir: yes, and I tested it yesterday (see planet) === abattoir checks [02:58] Riddell: you got the ugly motif style in the screenshot though :( [02:59] oh you mention that(/me reads it fully) [02:59] Riddell: just commited a fix for Jucato's problem [02:59] kwwii: thanks :) [02:59] Jucato: thanks for finding the bug :-) [03:00]