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makuserusorry for not being psysic and not knowing you like flash12:14
distroidi like flash too but...12:14
distroidur rite no can do 4 layering objects on top of of flash12:15
apolflash sucks12:15
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apolclosed, obfuscaded and privative...12:15
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crackhead_25question: anyone have trouble with cups? my cups keeps hanging when i try to open it to install a new printer. i restart the computer. same problem.12:16
intelikeybesides it's ugly12:16
makuseruits not like there is an alternitive to it. is there?12:16
intelikeycrackhead_25 dapper ?12:16
distroiddig my flash timewaster its a synthesizer 4 deaf people12:17
distroidhttp://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25617335/12:17
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yurimxpxmanhow do I change the screen resolution in KDE3.5?12:17
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crackhead_25i'm using edgy12:17
crackhead_256.1012:17
intelikeycrackhead_25 dapper introduced a corrupt database  in one of the foomatic upadtes.  i don't know about edgy...12:18
crackhead_25it was working fine before today. i plugged in a new printer12:18
crackhead_25is there any commandline command to setup a new printer?12:18
wsjunioryurimxpxman: kcontrol -> peripherals -> monitor & display12:18
distroidkubuntu just installed today.  im gonna try and hook up a random printer. race ya12:19
yurimxpxmanwsjunior: Monitor & Display isn't in my control center..12:19
wsjuniorcrackhead_25: kcontrol -> peripherals -> printers (not command line but does the job also)12:20
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wsjunioryurimxpxman: alt+f2 and type kcontrol12:20
crackhead_25what's kcontrol?12:20
wsjuniorcrackhead_25: the real kde control center12:20
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crackhead_25it's hanging too..12:21
crackhead_25i open it. i go to periph, print, add print.. hang..12:21
yurimxpxmanwsjunior: Don't you mean /CTRL/+Alt+F2 to switch to a tty? (sorry, I'm a GNOME user..)12:21
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distroid sweet i found the usb cord12:21
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wsjunioryurimxpxman: not. that commad that i told u will open the kde control center, there u will find the peripherals and monitor & display settings12:23
intelikeycrackhead_25 was there any gutenprint or foomatic packages in the last update ?12:23
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crackhead_25might have been..??12:23
crackhead_25how would i know?12:23
yurimxpxmanwsjunior: The display settings aren't in kcontrol (perhaps I need to install a package? I installed KDE from Ubuntu)12:23
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intelikeycrackhead_25 ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep db12:24
intelikeyif you haven't cleared the dl cache they will still be there12:24
wsjunioryurimxpxman: do u have any system settings entry in your kde menu?12:24
crackhead_25doesn't appear to be..12:25
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yurimxpxmanwsjunior: I have Settings and System Menu12:25
crackhead_25how do i find the uri for a usb connected printer?12:25
wsjunioryurimxpxman: click on it12:25
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intelikeycrackhead_25 lsusb ?12:25
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yurimxpxmanwsjunior: which one? System Menu?12:25
wsjunioryurimxpxman: there is monitor and display in the computer administration section12:25
crackhead_25what is the uri? is it the xxxx:xxxx?12:25
yurimxpxmanwsjunior: It's not there :P12:26
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wsjunioryurimxpxman: "System Settings"12:26
mateus-bris there difference between "ati" and "radeon" drivers (xorg.conf)?12:26
intelikeyyeah something like  0,112:26
intelikeybus 0 device 112:26
crackhead_25intelikey: are you talkin to me?12:26
crackhead_25oh..12:26
intelikeycrackhead_25 yep12:26
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crackhead_25i should type the bus X device X?12:26
intelikeyusb:0,1 i think is the syntax for usb uri's   but you chould check with someone else12:27
wsjunioryurimxpxman: got it?12:27
blue_i have a big-ish problem, was playin with beryl, system hang, mouse works but ctrl-aly-backspace won't, rebooted and got the same thing...12:28
yurimxpxmanwsjunior: I must not have all of the KDE packages installed. I got them from aptitude in Ubuntu12:28
mateus-bris there difference between "ati" and "radeon" drivers (xorg.conf)?12:28
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intelikeymay be dot in place of comma12:29
wsjunioryurimxpxman: have u installed kubuntu-desktop?12:29
yurimxpxmanwsjunior: Everything seems to be there /except/ the screen resolution one, and it's really bugging me because I have to use the mouse to scroll around my screen, if you follow me12:29
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crackhead_25intelikey: well, parallel looks something like this: parallel:/dev/lp212:29
yurimxpxmanwsjunior: I think I just ran apt-get install kde. I'll try kubuntu-desktop.12:29
crackhead_25so would usb be "usb:/dev/usb.. or something?12:29
intelikeyyes but they are not the same.12:29
crackhead_25what' dev mean?12:29
intelikey /dev/ is the devicenode dirrectory12:30
intelikeyls /dev12:30
crackhead_25in /dev/ there is a usblp0.. is that from the old printer or is that the new one which is connected now?12:30
yurimxpxmanwsjunior: alright, it's got a lot of packages that I didn't have installed. I'm downloading them now. Thanks :)12:30
crackhead_25however, i dont see that device in the kcontrol printer setup--whichis why im trying to input the uri.. i guess?12:30
wsjunioryurimxpxman: anyway u could just open a terminal and type xrandr so u gonna have a list of all supported resolutions, so u can switch to the desired one typing xrandr -s x (where x is the respectively number of the desired resolution in the fir column)12:31
intelikeycrackhead_25 idk.  echo "\r\n" > /dev/usblp0 and see which printer responds  lol12:31
intelikeybut really.12:31
crackhead_25intelikey: i did it with sudo, and it said permission denied.. ?12:32
crackhead_25lsusb lists the device, the new printer. it can recognize it. so, why is there nothing be seen in the printer setup of kcontrol? it should see it. it's a very typical hp printer.12:33
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intelikeycrackhead_25 i agree. it should.   but the printer setup in kcontrol leaves much to be desired.12:33
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intelikeycrackhead_25 have you tried konqueror  127.0.0.1:631   ?12:35
crackhead_25it popped up the printer setup, when i had printer spooler system selected as lpr instead of cups, but then it didnt see the printer.. when i try to open the printer add/setup with cups selected as printer spooler, the kcontrol--periph--printer setup just hangs..12:35
mervteckhey guys im in the directory of my disc for unreal tournament, but what do i put infront of the installer file name to make it run in12:35
mervteckit*12:35
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intelikeyadmitedly it's no better but at least it's different12:35
chris_machey guys12:35
chris_maccan someone give me a hand12:36
chris_macim new to linux and im having problems12:36
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mervteckWELCOME TO AWESOME LINUX!12:36
chris_maceverytime i start Kubuntu on livecd or on the HD it tells me "premission denied"12:37
chris_maci have no clue why12:37
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chris_macit goes into the boot process12:37
chris_macand it starts unpacking stuff12:37
chris_macand permission denied comes across the screen almost constantly12:37
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chris_macany clues???12:38
IndyTimchris_mac : did you get through the installation ok?12:39
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chris_maci did12:39
chris_maci installed it and it ran just fine12:39
distroidprinted12:39
chris_macits got a dual boot with XP12:39
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chris_maci had to run some crap on xp then booted back to the other HD and it said that12:40
distroidsweet.  yet another nonproblem i havent had since i installed kubuntu yesterday12:40
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NightBirdChaffinch, are you sure it's a valid burn?12:40
chris_macive tried formatting the HD and reinstalling, and i still het the dame outcome12:40
wolferineslooking for help in setting up my Twinview(duals), anyone willing to offer some?12:40
chris_macsame12:40
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NightBirder... sorry Chaffinch, I meant chris_mac12:40
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NightBirdchris_mac: is it a valid burn of the cd?12:40
chris_macit is12:41
chris_maci thought of that myself12:41
Ash-FoxFor those of you who are having problems with Wine's official repository for edgy (bad dependency issues). I have fixed the package myself and uploaded it to my own repository, you can add my repository via: sudo bash -c 'echo deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/ >> /etc/apt/sources.list'12:41
distroid[blowing load all over printer test page] 12:41
chris_macso i d/l'd it a second time and burned the ISO12:41
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chris_macit works on other PC's jsut fine12:41
NightBirdhm...12:41
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chris_maci spoke with a buddy of mine whos a *nix guru and hes clueless too12:42
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IndyTimchri)_mac : and you're able to get into Windows ok from GRUB?12:42
mervteckso can anyone tell me how to run the installer on my cd?12:42
chris_macyup12:42
pixelationwhere is the folder where you can put start up shortcuts?12:42
NightBirdwooo *just installed ie6 on his kubuntu install...*12:42
distroiddbl clik it12:42
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IndyTimchris_mac: just perchance are you out of hd room?12:43
intelikeychris_mac sounds like some propritary security krap.  sysstem restore/dell partition junk/hp disk utils   idk what but if you have the install cd for the xp you can wipe the hd and start fresh.12:43
distroidhd room good pnt12:43
distroidxp -- fresh --same sentence?12:43
chris_macwell, the OS's are on seperate drives12:43
pixelationanyone know the folder to autoload apps on startup?12:43
IndyTimchris_mac : do you have a copy of GParted LIve?12:44
chris_maci wiped the nix drive and formatted it twice12:44
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chris_macran all kinds of diagnostics crap on it and it was fine12:44
intelikeychris_mac how did you wipe ?12:44
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chris_macformatted it12:44
[pyro] hi guys12:44
intelikeythat did nothing much.   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdd12:44
distroidhi12:44
chris_maci cant get to a command line12:45
chris_maci cant get into anything12:45
intelikeychris_mac on a live CD ?12:45
chris_maci have to format it from win12:45
distroidwill catting zeros stop at end of drive?12:45
chris_maclivecd gives the same error12:45
IndyTimchris_mac: do you have a copy of GParted Live?12:45
chris_macno12:45
NightBirdintelikey: when you really want to format it, you should use a magnet... that will wipe it clean...12:45
chris_macHAHA12:45
chris_macim not trying to kill my machine12:45
intelikeyNightBird no cleaner than writing goose eggs to it12:46
IndyTimchris_mac: if you can download and burn the iso to a cd and boot and take a look at your hd config12:46
chris_macok, will do12:46
distroidhehe... jumpers?12:46
chris_macits called GParted live huh...12:46
chris_mack12:46
NightBirdchris_mac: I thought that you couldn't boot into the live cd..12:46
blue_when i log onto KDE i get a blank screen with no task bar... mouse works though, nothing to click on :(12:46
IndyTimyep12:46
distroidim sorry yall im new ill shut up12:46
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chris_maci cant12:47
intelikey<distroid> will catting zeros stop at end of drive? <<< yes12:47
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distroiddid you choose a fluxbox session, blue12:47
chris_macbut it was wierd12:47
blue_no KDE12:47
chris_maci then tried an install of Ubuntu12:47
chris_macand it allowed that12:47
distroidthx intellikey i always meant to check12:47
chris_macbut the same problem occoured12:47
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chris_macim thinking about just throwing away the drive12:48
distroidsend it to me12:48
chris_macits only an 80 gig IDE anyway, and its a Maxtrash on top of it12:48
IndyTimchris_mac: who's the mfgr on the drive?12:48
chris_macMaxtrash12:48
distroidgoes nicely with my other 312:48
intelikeydistroid i have seen disk problems that repeorted as io errors that could be fixed with cat /etc/zero > /dev/hd?    where ? is the hd letter   normally "a"12:49
chris_macive got SATA 2 support... so might as well12:49
chris_macthe only thing that concerns me is that if the new drive does the same thing12:49
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distroidi always zero my disks cuz i think its cool.  idk why12:49
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chris_macyou must be young...12:50
IndyTimchris_mac: before you trash the drive, I'd still recommend taking a look at you partition lineup12:50
chris_maci let it do that12:50
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chris_macbut i believe my boot is 4 gigs12:50
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chris_macswap is 212:50
chris_macand whatever is the reast12:50
chris_macrest12:50
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mervteckummm anyone? please? how do i run the installer file on my unreal tournament disc??12:50
null__o.o12:51
null__is your unreal tournament disc for linux or for windows?12:51
mervteckits the linux installer =)12:51
blue_use bash12:51
mervteckive got the console directed to the cd12:52
chris_macany clues?12:52
mervteckbut now i dunno what to tell it =\12:52
distroidis there a way do a pseudo-raid type swap for speeding up old compy with more hds than ram12:52
blue_sudo bash scriptfilename.sh12:52
mervteckty! ^^ 1 sec12:52
intelikeybefore you trash the disk,,, i'd try to blank it and start over.   but i'd prolly boot some kind of nix and snoop around on it for the cause first...  fdisk -l ;fsck ;mount blah blah ;even badblocks ; then cat zero > device and install me an os.12:52
blue_!xubuntu12:53
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels12:53
blue_think im gonna put xubuntu on my big pc12:54
IndyTimanyone know what the name of the app is in Ubuntu for downloading files off of a camera?12:54
chris_maci got FC6 to run12:54
intelikeydistroid how much ram ?12:54
chris_macbut it wouldnt recognize my wifi12:54
bxnpdigikam IndyTim12:54
IndyTimthat's in kde what about Gnome?12:55
bxnpf-spot12:55
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blue_IndyTim: you are in the Kubuntu room....12:55
cpk1errr cant you still use digikam in ubuntu?12:56
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cpk1err gnome*12:56
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intelikeyyes you can12:56
yurimxpxmanwhat's the name of the KDE version of Novell's Slab menu?12:56
mervteckhey guys whats the command to unmount and remount my cd drive =)12:56
yurimxpxmanmervteck: umount12:56
esy4hi12:56
skogenhow do i remove kubuntu desktop? (i want to install ubuntu instead)12:56
blue_umount -a    i think12:56
mervteck>.< i mean the full command lol12:56
yurimxpxmanskogen: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:57
intelikeymervteck umount /media/cdrom ;mount /media/sdrom12:57
intelikeycdrom12:57
skogenyurimxpxman: how do i remove kubuntu desktop?12:57
intelikeynot many have sdrom...12:57
yurimxpxmanskogen: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop12:58
skogentnx12:58
mervteckty ^^12:58
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yurimxpxmanskrogen: I wouldn't use that command though, because it might take out some of Ubuntu's essentials12:58
intelikeyskogen that only removes the meta package.12:58
skogencok12:58
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cpk1in soviet russia kubuntu-desktop removes YOU12:58
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yurimxpxmanskrogen: If you're going to remove kubuntu completely, you should remove kubuntu-desktop from a tty and install ubuntu-desktop after that12:58
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intelikeyare you asking how to remove the kde ?12:58
distroidya u only need to log out and choose a dif session12:58
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skogenintelikey:yes12:59
distroidwhy remode the kde12:59
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dirgedollHey12:59
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yurimxpxmando any of you know the name of Novell's KDE version of the Slab menu?12:59
mervteckit says device buisy now12:59
dirgedollI just got this I don't know jack shit about any of it. Heh01:00
wolferinewell, looks like nvidia drivers just wont load here01:00
Admiral_Chicago!language | dirgedoll01:00
ubotudirgedoll: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:00
dirgedolloops sorry01:00
intelikeyskogen that's a bit more tricky...  sudo apt-get remove kdelibs   might get most of it.01:00
mervteckguys what do i do to unmount my cd drive when it says device is buisy01:01
dirgedollwhat I don't understand is how to open files once you dl them01:01
yurimxpxmandirgedoll: What type of file?01:01
intelikeyyou can read the list of packages it is going to remove and see if that is sufficent for you.01:01
skogenok01:02
dirgedollI think it was an rpm01:02
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dirgedollthis is just a little different than windows heh01:02
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intelikeymervteck the icon on the desktop is what has it occupied.     right click eject01:02
wolferinesomeone want to help with setting up my Nvidia/Twinview?01:03
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intelikeymervteck if you "can live without" the icon right click the desktop and configure  choose in the device icons section  untic the cdrom   or all device icons for that matter...01:03
intelikeythen you don't have that issue anymore.01:03
mervteckit wont eject =\01:04
peyotedirgedoll: rpm is another package format than the one kubuntu uses which is deb. There is a tool called alien which can transform rpm into deb. But I recommend  you should install programms via tools like synaptic which are from the kubuntu repository01:04
intelikeyis there any browser/shell accessing it ?01:04
intelikeyany file on the cd open ?01:05
dirgedollwhere would I get synaptic?01:05
intelikeydirgedoll aptitude apt-get or adept01:05
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mervteckjust the installer in console01:06
intelikey!dpkg01:06
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.01:06
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wolferinei cannot even get my nvidia driver to load01:07
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wolferinehow would I remove/reinstall it all?01:07
kaoticevilive got a problem with sudo01:07
Kr4t05wolferine: How did you install it? adept?01:07
wolferinenot sure01:08
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wolferinebeen doing so much, i completely forget01:08
dirgedollok so the Kubuntu is already packaged with adept?01:08
intelikeykaoticevil in admin group ?01:08
mervteckok everything thats running off my cd drive other then the console is closed and i still cant eject01:09
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intelikeydirgedoll yes01:09
intelikey!adept | dirgedoll01:09
ubotudirgedoll: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:09
intelikey!synaptic | dirgedoll01:09
Kr4t05wolferine: Do this: glxinfo | grep NVIDIA and look for the version.01:09
ubotudirgedoll: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto01:09
dirgedollok01:09
Kr4t05wolferine: Tell me what that is.01:09
intelikeyyou can use either/both01:10
mcquaidhello, i use the kmplayer plugin in konq, and I have one issue with fullscreen.  If I choose fullscreen either via the menu or by pressing 'f' I can't escape from fullscreen again01:10
dirgedollthanks for that link01:10
kaoticevilintelikey: whenever i try to call sudo from konsole, i get a bunch of syntax errors01:10
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intelikeykaoticevil type   which sudo01:10
wolferineKr4t05, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".01:10
kaoticevili get /usr/bin/sudo01:10
kaoticevili get a syntax error in my sudoers file01:11
intelikeyok at least that's correct.01:11
wolferineI get that three times, then this: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual01:11
intelikeykaoticevil did you use visudo to edit the sudoers file ?01:11
wolferinethen I get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". again, another 6 times01:11
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kaoticevilintelikey: ive never edited the sudoers file01:11
intelikeykaoticevil ok.    sudo echo yes     and show me what it say01:12
intelikeydon't flood.01:12
intelikey!paste | kaoticevil01:12
ubotukaoticevil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:12
wolferineany ideas Kr4t05 ?01:13
kaoticevilintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11112/01:13
intelikeylooking01:13
Kr4t05wolferine: Are you running an xserver or are you in CLI?01:13
mcquaidi wouldn't mind trying jahshaka, is there an edgy rep anywhere?01:14
mervteckhey guys how do u pull up the console command area when theres an overlay on it ? i know u can i just forget how to01:14
wolferineatm. I am in X01:14
intelikeywrong line end char.   would be my guess kaoticevil01:14
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Kr4t05wo01:14
intelikeythat would be caused by using a downloaded sudoers file  or editing with something not sudoers compliant   or saving in the wrong format.01:15
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kaoticevilintelikey: ive not done any of that01:15
intelikeykaoticevil you say you have not edited /etc/sudoers ?01:15
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Kr4t05wolferine: Then, your nvidia drivers need to be reinstalled. What most likely happned is a kernel update cause those drivers to not work. My advice to you is to go get the latest nvidia drivers from nvidia.com and installing them manually.01:15
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kaoticevilintelikey: i have neither edited or downloaded a sudoers file01:15
wolferinemanually01:16
Kr4t05wolferine: You'll have to spend a short moment in CLI, but it is worth it.01:16
wolferinewell, I recently formatted my system01:16
intelikeykaoticevil has anyone else access to that box ?01:16
wolferineand it was working fine before01:16
kaoticevilintelikey: no, only myself01:16
kaoticevilwolferine: have you tried Envy?01:16
crackhead_25question: how do i find out what the uri of my printer is? i can see it in lsusb, but is that the uri? xxxx:xxxx?01:16
wolferinei have it, yes01:16
wolferinei just grabbed Automatix2 as well01:16
wolferinebut it seems that nvidia.ro is giving me issues01:17
intelikeykaoticevil less /var/log/auth*    look for signs of unwanted access   unknown ips01:17
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wolferineor soemthing like that, nvidia with a two letter extension01:17
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intelikeyif nothing shows up then i'll see if i can walk you through fixing the sudoers file.01:17
wolferinerestarting01:18
wolferineill copy the filename down01:18
kaoticevilintelikey: everything thats there i did01:19
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intelikeykaoticevil ok reboot into single user mode and run visudo    you can remove everything except one line.      %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL01:20
rogeranyone know of a way to format and do a read/write test on a CF card so I can know they are good?01:20
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kaoticevilintelikey: how do i get into single user mode?01:20
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DarkEDwow... the versatility of linux continues to amaze me01:20
intelikeykaoticevil at the boot prompt  [esc]    and selsct safe/recovery/mode01:21
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DarkEDi just upgraded my system from an athlonxp 1800+ on a ECS K7SEM w/ 256meg of RAM to an MSI PM8M-V w/ a Pentium 4 Prescott @ 3000mhz and 512meg of ram01:21
DarkEDand kubuntu booted just fine the second time01:21
kaoticevilintelikey: ok, im gonna try that now.. back in a little bit, hopefully lol01:22
DarkEDthe first time it kernel paniced, but the second time i'm up and running and ALL my drivers auto installed themselves01:22
DarkEDi had to reinstall windows because it BSOD'd every time01:22
intelikeykaoticevil if you don't see a safe or recovery  or anything like that you can hit [e]  and select the kernel line and hit [e]  add  1  < that's number one  to the end of the line and enter   hit [b] 01:22
DarkEDI am impressed01:22
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SilentMThat's awesome, D!01:23
dxdtSo, if I install Kubuntu-desktop, I get a ton of programs I don't want, and one that I do want.  That is something configures the keys on the front of my laptop automatically.  If I just installed KDE and stuff like that, without Kubuntu desktop, they won't be configured.  Anyone know what program is responsible for automagically setting that up??01:23
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SilentMDarkED*01:23
wolferinesso when I change my xorg.conf to have nvidia, instead of nv, and I restart X, I have this error: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/volatile/nvidia.ko' No such file or directory01:23
DarkEDSilentM: yes?01:23
DarkEDoh, nvm :)01:23
SilentMHeh :P01:24
wolferineshow can I install that file, so the driver can use it?01:24
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DarkEDhmm... when i attempt to install the i686 smp kernel ... it just gives me a 24kb metapackage01:24
DarkEDno kernel01:24
DarkEDsup with that?01:24
intelikeydxdt   laptop-mode-tools - Userland scripts to control "laptop mode"01:25
intelikeylaptop-mode - laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops01:25
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dxdtummmmm why would I want that01:25
rbrunhuberDarkED: the metapackage should be dependent on the actual kernel so if it does not pull it in you have already installed it01:25
dxdtsince my question didn't depend at all about laptop power01:25
DarkEDrbrunhuber: i havent, but i figured it out01:26
DarkEDlinux-generic obsoleted the linux-686 kernel01:26
DarkEDas well as the smp01:26
DarkEDit says the generic has all kernels, so thats cool i guess :)01:26
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crackhead_25anyone know how to find the uri of a printer device recognized by lsusb but not listed in the printer setup control panel?01:26
rbrunhuberDarkED: Yeah generic kernel has already smp abilitys01:26
DarkEDrbrunhuber: does it know it's supposed to be using them?01:27
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intelikeydxdt hotkey-setup - auto-configures laptop hotkeys01:27
intelikeykmilo - laptop special keys support for KDE01:27
dxdthotkey setup eh?01:27
rbrunhuberDarkED: AFAIK it "optimizes" itself if it finds an smp kernel.01:27
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intelikeydxdt apt-cache search laptop | grep key01:28
mihai_what01:28
eilker!KSplash01:28
ubotuksplash: the KDE splash screen. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 698 kB, installed size 1328 kB01:28
dxdtintelikey, I already have that package installed.01:28
DarkEDrbrunhuber: yes, i know... but it would do that on install right? i just switched in this hardware and the system booted ... i mean would it autodetect the new Pentium 4 and pipe it through 686 smp?01:28
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DarkEDi was using an athlonxp 1800 before01:29
DarkEDso ... k7 kerne;01:29
mhall53hello whats up everyone01:29
dxdtThere is something that kubuntu-desktop does that I can't seem to figure out.  It looks like all the packages are here.... there must be some obscure package or script or ... who knows01:29
rbrunhuberDarkED: Post uname -a here01:29
DarkEDrbrunhuber: sure thing01:29
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mhall53anyone   know the command to edit the sources.lost file01:29
DarkED[13:01]  <[Ci] Ikkor> but you are 20 years behind us, so no wonder its still morning01:29
DarkEDer sorry01:29
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rbrunhubermhall53: I hope your sources are not lost :-)01:30
DarkEDi keep forgetting ctrl+v doesnt work in konsole :D01:30
DarkEDLinux darked-desktop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux <-- seems its working01:30
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DarkEDthat is super sweet01:30
DarkEDthis is why i love linux01:30
DarkEDyou can rip everything it knows out from under it and replace it with new tech and it'll just run it01:30
kaoticevilintelikey: well, i know what the problem was01:30
intelikeykaoticevil you have my ear01:31
rbrunhuberDarkED: It adds are fraction of a second to boottime but only one kernel image. this is cool01:31
DarkEDrbrunhuber: well thanks :)01:31
mhall53whats the command01:31
rbrunhuberDarkED: welcome01:31
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rbrunhubermhall53: for what?01:31
DarkEDrbrunhuber: yes, very cool ... i was sick of recompiling nvidia drivers every time i updated the kernel01:31
kaoticevilintelikey: well, somehow (dont ask me, because i have NO idea whatsoever) there were 10 xorg related errors at the beginning of my sudoers file01:32
kaoticevildeleted them, saved the the file, and no problems at all now :D01:32
mhall53to edit the sources.list fire01:32
mhall53!sources.list01:32
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:32
rbrunhubermhall53: try sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list01:33
intelikeykaoticevil that sounds like a serious xorg or kdesu bug... maybe you should report it01:33
intelikey!bug | kaoticevil01:33
ubotukaoticevil: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots01:33
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kaoticevilintelikey: id like to know how it happened tho lol01:33
intelikeyif something has writen to the sudoers file it's a problem.01:33
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kaoticevilindeed it is01:34
rbrunhubermhall53: Or you can try adept_manager then view->manage repositories01:34
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rbrunhuberkaoticevil, intelikey: Are you sure the overwritten sudoers file is a bug?01:37
intelikeyrbrunhuber i'm not.  but he says he didn't touch it and it has stderr output from xorg01:37
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rbrunhuberintelikey: somebody must have made a real mess with the file. Here it is not even writeable for root01:38
intelikeyroot can write anywhere01:38
intelikeyroot don't do perms01:39
intelikeyneither does init01:39
mhall53kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!01:39
rbrunhubermhall53: thats ok.01:39
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kaoticevilrbrunhuber: all i did was install Edgy, update fully, install Envy (and my nVidia drivers), beryl, install gnome, rebooted to play some games, and when I came back to linux, i coulnt use sudo01:39
intelikeymhall53 that's normal01:39
mhall53its not opening01:39
DarkEDthat was odd ... kde froze01:40
mateus-brIs possible remove "Switch User" entry from Kicker?01:40
rbrunhuberkaoticevil: I did not want to insult you. This is a very,very severe problem so everything should be checked before a bug is filed.01:41
intelikeykeditmenu01:41
rbrunhubermateus-br: just rightclick on the "k" button for the menu editor01:41
kaoticevilintelikey: im a linux newbie, its not possible to insult me :)01:41
kaoticevili know computers, but its all on dos/windows01:41
mateus-brrbrunhuber: there is no option to remove this entry01:41
kaoticevili know *a little* about linux, but not the inner workings01:42
intelikeyrbrunhuber >> forwarded message attached ^01:42
rbrunhubermateus-br: or you could try to use kiosk but i never used it01:42
rbrunhuberintelikey: what do you mean01:43
rbrunhuber!kiosk01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiosk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
intelikeyrbrunhuber that was for you not me...  <kaoticevil> intelikey: im a linux newbie, its not possible to insult me :)01:43
intelikeyand the following two  ^01:43
mateus-brrbrunhuber: already tried :(01:43
kaoticeviloops.. lol yeah, it was for rbrunhuber01:44
rbrunhubermateus-br: kiosktool i meant01:44
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mhall53still cant edit sources.list01:45
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mateus-bryeah I already installed and check01:45
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intelikeymhall53 sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:45
mateus-brsad this entry can't be removed a child or bad intended person can destroy a public kde computer :(01:46
mhall53i think i got it01:46
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rbrunhubermateus-br: you may try this on your own risk: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/15034/Remove-Switch-User-from-Kmenu-is-possible.html01:46
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mateus-brthis thread is mine :P01:47
intelikeyi don't see how anyone without root clearance could hurt it anyway.01:47
rbrunhubermateus-br: If you are really uncomfortable with not being able to remove the entry you should consider to file a bugreport against it.01:48
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rbrunhubermateus-br: the affected package should be kicker AFAIK01:49
neo_newbie here trying to install rpms don't have a clue how to01:50
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mhall53anyone know where i can get more sources from01:50
intelikeythat's not kde-menu ?01:50
intelikeymhall53 what for ?01:51
mhall53to be able to get codecs and something to play dvds01:51
intelikeywhy do you want more sources ?01:51
rbrunhuberneo_: first you should try at "any cost" to find a deb package.01:51
intelikeyuniverse and multiverse01:51
intelikey!codecs | mhall5301:51
ubotumhall53: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:51
neo_tring to  install alien to convert stuff i download to deb01:51
mhall53ok i have them enabled01:52
raylu neo_, try to avoid alien; rbrunhuber is correct. what are you trying to install specifically?01:52
neo_yea i know deb is easier to install01:52
mhall53i used some cool that on that pastebin website01:52
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intelikey!rpm | neo_01:52
ubotuneo_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)01:52
neo_nothing spcifically01:52
raylu ...01:52
rbrunhuberneo_:  If it is nothing specifically you normally don't need it. :-) So you should not risk to spoil your machine01:53
neo_ok ill get the other one but does anyone know a good site to find deb installs01:53
raylu it depends on what you're trying to install01:53
raylu which is why i asked :D01:53
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neo_im justt lookingg for cool programs01:53
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intelikeymhall53 don't for get to update the database after you edit the sources.list    sudo apt-get update01:54
raylu then go into the adept package manager. you'll never get through that list alone01:54
intelikeythat applies the changes...01:54
mhall53i did01:54
neo_games utilities that kind of stuff01:54
mhall53how many is available after u do and update01:54
mhall53i only have 2030601:54
intelikey20k packages is a lot....01:55
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raylu *only*? installed or availible?01:55
mhall53i want to play back dvds but i cant find anything to do it01:55
rbrunhubermhall53: around the same number here.01:55
intelikey!dvd | mhall5301:55
ubotumhall53: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:55
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rbrunhubermhall53: Try reading the packages you are pointed to, it really helps01:56
rbrunhubermhall53: sorry packages=pages01:56
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mhall53cool found it01:58
neo_so where to I find cool stuff like programs and games in deb to download01:58
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rbrunhuberneo_: The problem with rpms for example is that they are often dependent on tools of the specified plattform. So very common error is that the pre or post hooks fail because they can't find checkinstall. And alien is no help then. Because checkinstall for example is not available for ubuntu (at least i did not find it)01:59
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neo_OK ill avoid them then02:00
neo_but  where do I find deb programs and games to download02:00
mhall53man i love this community if i had been using another distro u would have cursed me out lol thx for the  help02:00
rbrunhuberneo_:  normally your best friend is google. <name of program> deb OR debian package02:00
neo_ok thanks02:01
mhall53nvm i go t another question is there a program that will install a soure for becuse i dont know how to do it02:01
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neo_hey does anyone know what flavor of linux UserFul Uses02:01
rbrunhuberneo_: I'm sorry to tell you there is no "mr wolf archive" for deb or ubuntu packages02:01
rbrunhuberneo_: Who or what is UserFul?02:02
neo_Desktop Multiplier allows your Linux operating system to support up to 10 independent users, monitors and keyboards with just one PC.02:02
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soulriderhey there, are there any C++ programmers here ?02:03
neo_http://www.userful.com/02:03
intelikeyneo_ to find programs   first look in the package database.  there are several ways to do that one is the search feature of adept andother is the konsole command   apt-cache search <string>      where string might be something like   game | less02:03
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ebovine_So I have 3 browser on my machine and for some reason Firefox is ignoring css font choice on web sites.  Any clues?02:04
neo_use Opera02:05
mhall53is there a program that will install sources automatic02:05
ebovine_I do when I'm surfing, but I need to test some stuff in Firefox.02:05
neo_ohhh02:05
neo_ill shutup now02:05
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intelikeyneo_ it is of particular interest that you should learn a little about less becaues it has the search functions for forward and backward searching as well as saving to file and other useful features.   man less02:06
ebovine_Fock.  My bad.02:06
ebovine_The checkbox in Firefox to override page fonts was set.02:06
ebovine_:S02:06
ebovine_Carry on.02:06
wolferineshow do I setup an alias I made, to work all the time ?02:07
neo_???02:07
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intelikeyput it in ~/.profile   ?02:07
intelikey@ wolferines ^02:08
c0nv1ctwolferines: put it in ~/.bashrc02:08
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wolferinesstarting with alias?02:08
c0nv1ctwolferines: you will see existing examples in there02:08
intelikeywolferines yes    alias blah="something"02:08
shadowhywindcan someone help me get avi (xvid) playback working. the w32codecs do not seam to be working02:08
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[pyro] !restricted02:09
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:09
REALhow can i stop bluetooth?02:09
wolferinesthen restart the shell to take effect?02:09
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intelikeyc0nv1ct i think "all the time" might be key,  .bashrc is not read all the time and .bash_bashrc is not read all the time.   i think (could be mistaken tho) that  .profile will be.02:09
rbrunhuberwolferines: you should use ~/.bashrc there are some aliases already02:09
DisabledDuckhow do i enable remote desktop in kubuntu?02:10
raylu DisabledDuck, Menu > Internet > ?02:10
REALwhats the name for the bluetooth daemon? i cant find it to stop it02:10
wolferinesyeah02:10
wolferinesthats what I did02:10
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rbrunhuberREAL: bluez-utils02:10
DisabledDuckhow do i enable my computer to act as a VNC host is what i need02:10
jarleREAL: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop02:11
intelikeyrbrunhuber does konsole and other terminal emulators read .bashrc ?02:11
c0nv1ctDisabledDuck: try Krdc02:11
REAL * Stopping Bluetooth services... <-- but i still get the bluetooth light on my notebook02:11
neo_http://www.getdeb.net02:11
DisabledDuckc0nv1ct: thats what i tried, but that only lets me connect to a remote desktop as far as i can tell02:12
c0nv1ctDisabledDuck: try Krfb02:12
rbrunhuberREAL: That should be clear because you shutdown the driver not the hardware.02:12
DisabledDuckc0nv1ct: thx02:12
neo_can anyone tell me how  to  get the sound working on Kubuntu on  a VVPCCc02:12
neo_VPC02:13
DisabledDuckc0nv1ct: will that start automatically when i turn on the machine if i enable it?02:13
c0nv1ctDisabledDuck: no, you need to setup an invite, and it works once, you need to invite again to use it again02:13
DisabledDuckc0nv1ct: hmmm, is there any way to set up a VNC host to start automatically when i boot up the machine?02:14
c0nv1ctDisabledDuck: try searching for a VNC server02:14
neo_put it in the start menu maybe???02:14
neo_can anyone tell me how  to  get the sound working on Kubuntu on  a VPC02:14
c0nv1ctneo_: what kind of VPC? Vmware?02:14
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neo_MS VPC02:15
intelikeyyou mean like enabling remote login in the *dm ?02:15
c0nv1ctneo_: 32bit or 64bit version?02:15
neo_3202:15
c0nv1ctneo_: did you add a sound device to the virtual machine properties?02:15
neo_yup02:15
neo_works on every vpc (XP,  wwin98)02:16
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c0nv1ctneo_: are you able to see the device in lshw?02:16
neo_vista and Kubuntu no sound02:16
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neo_???  lshw ???02:17
c0nv1ctneo_: lshw is a console command that lists all your hardware02:17
neo_ohhhh ill check02:17
intelikeysudo lshw | less02:17
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c0nv1cti use vmware, so i'm not familiar with how virtualpc sets up its sound device02:18
c0nv1ctthough it should be a generic device and easily recognizable02:18
neo_nope didn't show up02:18
neo_hmmm02:19
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XelBuenas noches a todos.02:19
c0nv1ctneo_: nothing labeled "Multimedia audio controller" in lshw?02:19
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neo_nope wanna see02:19
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c0nv1ctstrange, it should show up, verify that the device is enabled in the machine's properties02:20
neo_yea its enabled on the VPC but dont show uup  hmmm02:21
intelikeyheh depending on bios for hardware support   lol02:21
XelAlguien habla espaol?02:21
c0nv1ct!es | Xel02:21
ubotuXel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:21
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eilker!inetd02:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:22
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raylu !lmap02:22
raylu !lamp02:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:22
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)02:22
raylu eilker, is that what you were looking for?02:22
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eilkerraylu: nope, i know what lamp is02:23
c0nv1cthehe, neo_ tried to paste the lshw output to a msg to me02:23
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eilker!Xinetd02:23
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ubotuxinetd: replacement for inetd with many enhancements. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.3.14-1 (edgy), package size 127 kB, installed size 356 kB02:23
c0nv1ct!pastebin | neo_02:23
ubotuneo_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:23
intelikeywell i think i have determined where the source of the unfiltered packets error is.   but i don't know what's causing it.02:24
neo_ooops sorry02:24
eilkerhow do you use proxy in linux ?02:25
c0nv1cteilker: what kind02:25
DisabledDuckwhats the command to restart the x server?02:26
c0nv1ctDisabledDuck: /etc/init.d/kdm restart02:26
c0nv1ctDisabledDuck: or just hit ctrl-alt-backspace02:26
bxnpdo you  need a proxy server eilker02:26
eilkerc0nv1ct: i am in network settings, i see "automatic script finder"02:26
bxnpor do you need to configure your clients for a proxy02:26
c0nv1cteilker: what kind of proxy are you trying to use?02:27
eilkerbxnp: i wanna try a proxy server02:27
c0nv1cteilker: a web proxy?02:27
bxnptry squid02:27
eilkerc0nv1ct: yes web proxy02:27
eilker!squid02:27
ubotusquid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1544 kB02:27
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c0nv1cteilker: wait, you want to setup a caching proxy?02:27
intelikeyit's the access point i am using.   err am not using at the moment.    my isp sent out a memo to check/change access points because of an upgrade to the system.   i did and i get repeted timed error messages from the kernel    if i use the new access point.     reads  ppp unfiltered packet error     or something like that...    i don't get that from the old access point.02:27
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eilkerbxnp: will my speed be slower ?02:27
bxnpno it will not02:28
eilkerc0nv1ct: i have no idea, what i want is, to not leave my real ip...02:28
bxnpbesides its a cache so it might me faster02:28
c0nv1cteilker: thats not possible, unless you use a certain type of proxy, and none that i know of are free02:28
bxnpbut i am off, guys i need to visit my bed, cause its getting lonely, adios everybody night night02:29
eilkerc0nv1ct: i wanna surf with fake ip02:29
eilkerbxnp: good night02:29
c0nv1cteilker: you can use a proxy to surf with, but your IP is still visable unless you use a proxy service that uses encryption02:29
raylu or if the proxy hides your ip...02:29
intelikey!tor02:30
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB02:30
c0nv1ctraylu: to actually hide your IP, it has to use encryption or some other method of identifying you02:30
raylu ...why's that?02:30
c0nv1cta standard proxy only encapsulates your IP02:30
raylu encapsulates?02:30
c0nv1cta return address or some identifying source has to exist for the data to return to your PC02:30
eilkerwe can never hide our ip.....it will be found everytime....02:30
neo_hey all thanks for  the help im out02:30
raylu right, but as long as the proxy is the only one that knows the return address02:31
raylu it's fine02:31
eilkeryes raylu02:31
c0nv1ctraylu: thats not how anonymous proxies work02:31
raylu o.0?02:31
c0nv1ctthere are some private proxies that can accomplish true anonymous browsing, but not the free anonymous proxies you will find02:32
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eilkerc0nv1ct> what do free anonymous proxies do ?02:32
c0nv1cteilker: they just forward your traffic, the immediate visable IP is theirs, but your IP still exists in each packet02:33
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intelikeyheh ssh into a remote shell server and brows from there   hehh02:33
eilkeri used to use "hide ip" software in xp, it used to make my speed very slower02:33
c0nv1cteilker: it does make it slower, and those programs don't really work02:33
eilkerwhat should i do to surf with fake ip ?02:34
eilkerprivate proxy ?02:34
raylu hm...i'll take your word for it, i suppose02:34
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intelikeythere is only so much band width.   we should all stop using the internet so we dont max it out...02:34
raylu by the way, when you say my ip exists, would that be under the02:35
raylu TCP headers or the HTTP ones?02:35
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raylu yes, intelikey. let's also kill people to stop disease!02:35
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intelikeyraylu who do we start with ?    the jews ?02:35
raylu [BTF] Chm0d02:35
raylu ack02:35
MuJyes, and let's travel with horses and by foot02:36
eilker!sock02:36
raylu hm, depending on context, that could be pretty funny.02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
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eilker!socks02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about socks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
raylu !socks402:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about socks4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
raylu ouches.02:36
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c0nv1ctraylu: TCP02:37
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eilker!proxy02:37
ubotuThe #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.02:37
ubotuAttention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks02:37
DarkEDok for some reason kde is freezing on me02:37
c0nv1ctraylu: you can research how datagrams are built and how proxies work, but its not very interesting :P02:37
DarkEDi can still move the mouse but i cant do anything02:37
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intelikeyDarkED drop to a console and see if something has ran way wif' it's self.02:38
DarkEDintelikey: i cant02:38
DarkEDintelikey: the keyboard stops responding02:39
DarkEDall i can do is move the mouse02:39
intelikeyalt+wywrq+r   alt+ctrl+f102:39
DarkEDbut i cant click icons or right click02:39
eilkerdarked: i would try to reconfigure x server02:39
DarkEDi said the keyboard stops responding ;)02:39
DarkEDeilker: ok, i'll do that02:39
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intelikeyoops wywrq/sysrq02:39
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intelikeyalt+sysrq+r   alt+ctrl+f102:39
intelikeyDarkED did you try that ^  ?02:40
NightBirddoes anyone know of a petition to ati for support for aiglx/composite extension in their prop driver?02:41
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intelikeywhy not petition for open sourse drivers02:41
eilker!zeroconf02:41
ubotuzeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB02:41
utnubukamarok breaks every time i try to play an mp3, now i have to erase all the config files restart and reinstall, how can i make it not break?02:42
c0nv1ctutnubuk: define 'break'02:42
eilkerutnubuk>: version ?02:42
DarkEDintelikey: yes, i tried the hotkeys02:43
utnubukc0nv1ct: it hust hangs real bad when it says populating playlist at the bottom02:43
DarkEDintelikey: the keyboard ceases to exist02:43
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c0nv1ctutnubuk: like eilker said, what version?02:43
intelikeydarked  alt+sysrq   don't work ?02:43
c0nv1ctutnubuk: i had problems with the original version with kubuntu, using 1.4.5 fixed a ton of problems02:44
utnubukeilker: i am not sure which version, although it is probably the latest one because i have been downloading it fresh02:44
Iwonderutnubuk:  that is normal if you populate a large drive,especially a remotely mounted one02:44
eilkerutnubuk>: try 1.4.502:44
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intelikeyheh i have never seen that on a kernel with magic sysrq enabled02:44
utnubukeilker: will do ty02:44
eilkerc0nv1ct> same here02:44
eilkerutnubuk>: let me give you the link02:44
utnubukok02:44
c0nv1cteilker: 1.4.5 came with all the shoutcast radio stations too, which was nice :)02:44
eilkerc0nv1ct> last fm heaven :)02:45
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eilkerutnubuk>: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145 edgy main02:46
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c0nv1cti still have weird problems playing streams in amarok02:46
intelikeyDarkED don't be angry just tell me you did press the alt key and the sysRQ key and the R key all at one time...  then the alt+ctrl+f1  and you didn't get to a console.   cause i'm not sure the magic sysrq can stop working once enabled...02:46
eilkerutnubuk>: firstly i removed with purge option, than installed from there02:46
c0nv1cthalf the time i get an error about codecs, then i just try again and it works02:46
NightBirdintelikey: because that's much less likely to work than just asking for specific new features...02:46
utnubukeilker: i just found out what version i have - it is 1.4.5....02:46
NightBirdintelikey: they might have some code in there they can't release as open source02:47
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intelikeyNightBird it traded hands you know.   they might open source it...02:47
eilkerc0nv1ct> do u watch video with it ?02:47
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eilkerutnubuk>: from which repo ?02:47
utnubukone sec02:47
eilkerutnubuk>: edgy official repo's doesnt have 1.4.502:48
NightBirdintelikey: yes, but my point still stands..02:48
intelikey<NightBird> intelikey: they might have some code in there they can't release as open source  <<<< you mean illeagle code ?02:48
c0nv1cteilker: no, i use kaffeine for that02:48
intelikeycould be...02:48
NightBirdintelikey: no, like code they had to sign a waver of non-disclosure02:48
utnubukeilker: im using the beta of feisty fawn - does that have something to do with it?02:48
eilkerutnubuk>: ohh ok, i didnt know it02:49
utnubukeilker: fiesty herd**02:49
intelikeywhich would probably mean that it's not fully leagle anyway... but at any rant...02:49
NightBirdintelikey: of course, it might be possible to open source everything *but* that code and leave it as closed source, but then that's not really open source..02:50
utnubukeilker: im just going to disable multiverse and all that junk and see what happens, thanks for your help02:50
c0nv1cthmm, i tried to upgrade to feisty in my virtual test machine, and i dont think it worked02:50
eilkerutnubuk>: good luck friend02:50
utnubukty02:50
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Xelespaol02:50
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intelikeymonths ?02:51
Xelalguen habla en espaol?02:51
intelikeyyeah me too02:51
eilkeryeah02:51
eilker!es02:51
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:51
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c0nv1ctoh nm, now the upgrade wizard thing comes up02:52
scarabeuzhi all02:52
intelikeyeilker see debian.org02:52
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eilkerintelikey: for ?02:52
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DShepherdCan I get an audio file to burn across two CDs?02:52
intelikeysystem that the developers agree with that sentiment02:52
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scarabeuzsudo apt-get install module-assistant02:52
scarabeuzPaketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig02:52
scarabeuzAbhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut02:52
scarabeuzReading state information... Fertig02:52
scarabeuzE: Konnte Paket module-assistant nicht finden02:52
c0nv1ctDShepherd: thats one big audio file, lol02:52
scarabeuzworan kann das liegen?02:52
DShepherdc0nv1ct, Yes it's about 3 hours long02:53
c0nv1ctwhoa, use pastebin02:53
intelikeyeilker it's also the upstream source of ubuntu02:53
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eilkerintelikey: yeah  i know, i have it on vmware02:53
intelikeyk02:53
c0nv1ctDShepherd: you may be able to burn it to multiple CDs, but i dont think there is a way to prompt the insertion of the 2nd cd while playing the file02:53
c0nv1ctDShepherd: i think the best bet would be to chop the file in half02:54
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eilkerintelikey: dont u use debian ? do u prefer kubuntu to it ?02:54
DShepherdFine how do I do that?02:54
c0nv1ctDShepherd: using an editor for the format that your audio file is02:54
intelikeyeilker i'm on dialup and too cheep to buy a boxed set of open source cd's ....02:54
c0nv1ctDShepherd: just search adept for audio editors02:54
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utnubukwheres the file i can edit to change my repos??02:55
DShepherd/etc/apt/sources.list02:55
eilkerutnubuk: /etc/apt/sources.list02:55
utnubukty02:55
intelikeyeilker so as long as shipit wants to send me a cd of the LTS version that's what i'll run.02:55
eilkerintelikey: do u still have dial-up there ?02:55
bishopNeed help!  I have installed Kubuntu desktop, but I need to know how to change from the Ubuntu 6.10 tty1 login to the GUI02:55
c0nv1ctdialup :*(02:56
intelikeyit's all there is here unless you can afford satilite02:56
c0nv1ctbishop: try ctrl-alt-f702:56
intelikeyand i can't02:56
Jucatointelikey: I've heard some people receiving edgy cd's from shipit lately...02:56
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bishopI did but it dose not work02:56
eilkerutnubuk> just a note, u need to  do "sudo apt-get update"02:56
intelikeynot interested in edgy really.  but thanks for the note. Jucato02:56
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c0nv1ctbishop: its possible X isnt setup correctly then, is it a fresh install?02:57
bishopI tried the update too     It did not work02:57
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eilkerintelikey: edgy is ok, but it broke my kdm :) still not working02:57
Jucatointelikey: ah ok. I thought you were ordering CD's :D02:57
utnubukeilker: thanks i would have not known to do that02:57
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intelikeyeilker use gdm   kdm is evil02:57
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eilkerintelikey: gdm with kde ??02:58
intelikeyJucato just explaining why i didn't use debian even though i agree more with it than with ubuntu.02:58
c0nv1ctgdm works fine for kde02:58
intelikeyeilker yes02:58
bishopI tried to reinstall but it say the it is installed.  do I need to uninstall and reinstall?02:58
Jucato(here we go again...)02:58
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eilkerlet me remove kdm and try for gdm , may be i am going to able to embrace  my login screen again :)02:59
intelikeyJucato ^ <eilker> intelikey: edgy is ok, but it broke my kdm :) still not working  <intelikey> eilker use gdm   kdm is evil     <<< not diving into the resoning...02:59
c0nv1ctintelikey: lol, yeah, not that again :P03:00
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intelikeyit's a little soon c0nv1ct maybe next weak.03:00
intelikey:)03:00
c0nv1ctyeah, too soon03:00
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bishopAnother question;  how do you add a file to the Adept manager?03:01
intelikeyweek ?03:01
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c0nv1ctbishop: what do you mean? a deb packaged you downloaded yourself?03:01
eilkerintelikey: i have many friends from there, we used to work with an IT company about fingerprint03:01
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bishopyes  a perl03:02
mhall53hey is amsn any good03:02
c0nv1ctbishop: use 'dpkg -i' to install a package you got yourself03:02
c0nv1ctbishop: if it is available via the repos, it will be updated03:02
bishopok03:02
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intelikeybishop sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install packagename03:03
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c0nv1ctintelikey: what does that do?03:04
c0nv1ctintelikey: make it in sync with the repos?03:04
DarkEDwell, i THINK i've got all the bugs worked out with my new hardware *knock on wood*03:04
intelikeyyes and reinstalls it even if it is the same version03:04
DarkEDby the by ... is motherboard burn-in really a big deal?03:04
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mhall53hey intelikey03:04
c0nv1ctDarkED: i never bothered to do it... and never had problems03:05
intelikeymhall5303:05
DarkEDc0nv1ct: i thought so too03:05
mhall53can u send me that sources.list again, i was not at home03:05
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DarkEDi was playing San Andreas only moments after installing the new board03:05
intelikeymhall53 edgy ?03:05
c0nv1ctDarkED: i could be wrong, but i dont think its that big of a deal03:05
mhall53yes03:05
intelikeyk03:05
DarkEDc0nv1ct: yeah03:05
intelikeyyou're welcome.03:06
mhall53so this is everything i need?03:07
intelikeyand more.03:07
mhall53thank you03:07
mhall53:)03:07
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c0nv1ctmy mom fried her mobo and corrupted her XP install... she couldnt find her XP disks, so guess what she got? :P03:08
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c0nv1ctold lady has to learn linux now :D03:08
intelikeymhall53 you do know that to enable anything that's commented out in there you just remove the single # from the start of the line     right ?03:09
intelikeynever remove  ##03:09
mhall53ok03:09
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pollyoHello03:09
pollyoAny idea how I can get k3b to recognize mp3 and/or burn cd's?03:10
castoffpollyo: did you runk3bsetup?03:11
Iwonderpollyo: can you be more specific?03:11
intelikey!mp3 | pollyo03:11
ubotupollyo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:11
pollyocastoff: No.  I didn't realize it had a setup.03:11
pollyoubotu: I looked but it appears to be gnome specific.03:11
pollyointelikey: isn't that gnome specific?03:12
intelikeyno   the howto may sujest gnome apps but you can use kde apps in their place.03:12
mhall53is there any program that will install sources tar.gz  automatic03:12
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intelikeyi.e.  gksudo  translates to   kdesu   and gedit   to kate03:13
pollyointelikey: I'll take another look.03:13
pollyobrb03:13
castoffpollyo: also look at kaffeine for ripping/playing mp3's03:13
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intelikeyvlc is good03:13
eilkeri got my login screen again via kdm, but searching for nice themes03:14
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intelikeyvia kdm ?03:14
eilker:D03:14
eilker*gdm03:14
intelikeyi thought you were installing.... yeah that.03:14
pollyocastoff: Will do.03:14
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=== intelikey never saw the use in boot and login theemes.... you see it boot how many seconds per day... and you stair how long at the login screen.....
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intelikeymost pelple spend longer setting up bootsplash then looking at it...03:17
eilkerwhat about 3D ?03:17
intelikeywhat about it ?03:17
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eilkerdo u like it ? or is it necessary ?03:18
intelikeythen/than03:18
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intelikeyeilker i'm a console user.  heh.   haven't seen a  gui this day.03:18
eilkersorry man, i forgot it :) r u in links2 now ?03:19
intelikeynot atm03:19
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intelikeyre writing some scripts...03:19
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eilkeryeah, i tried for shutdown and reboot script too cause of kdm03:20
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ChetwinHow can I tell if my hard drive has gone bad?03:21
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intelikeyheh   why did you disable ctrl+alt+del in the inittab ?03:21
andy_Hi, can anyone help me with networkmanager? when I try to connect to my WPA network, It brings up a box to type in my WPA password, but after I type in my password, the connect button is disabled. Does anyone know a quick fix?03:21
intelikeyChetwin badblocks can do a sserface scan in either read or read/write mode.03:22
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Chetwinthat's the package name badblocks?03:22
intelikeyit's installed.03:22
intelikeycli03:22
castoff0andy_: if using kubuntu then use knetwork-manager03:22
eilkerintelikey>: i didnt know it :lol:03:22
castoffandy_: if using kubuntu then use knetwork-manager03:22
intelikeysudo badblocks /dev/hd?03:23
andy_I meant knetwork-manager03:23
intelikeyeilker :)03:23
andy_sorry03:23
ChetwinSweet, I tried using smartmontools, but it's unworkable to my feeble mind03:23
Iwonder|NotHereandy_:  is there a networks section in control panel?03:23
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castoffandy_: is wpasuplicant installed?03:23
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Iwonderin concole type iwconfig --help03:24
andy_yes03:24
ChetwinThanks all03:24
intelikeyeilker well for future referance.  drop to a console (no need to login) and ctrl+alt+del   you can press the power buton at the bios read if you want power off.  if not it will reboot.03:24
andy_when I change it to The WPA enterprise, the connect button changes back03:24
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ChetwinI'll be back with a booting issue I have in a minute03:25
andy_wpasupplicant is installed03:25
castoffandy_: type a long string in the passphrase and see if the connect button sall of a suuden appears03:25
andy_like a lot of characters?03:26
eilkerintelikey>: thanx man03:26
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owner_for some reason when try to play a song with amaroK it goes throught the tracks very fast and no sound comes out of the speakers...anyone know how to fix that?03:26
castoffandy_: yes shared secret must be a certain number of minimum chasrs03:26
Goontzowner_: Mine does that too...I have no idea03:27
intelikeyit like two hot key combos of three keys each.     :)   or one could  alt+sysrq+r  alt+sysrq+u alt+sysrq+b   heh but that's like last resort rebooting03:27
andy_my password is 12 characters03:27
castoffandy_: have you checked your card supports wpa under kubuntu?03:28
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owner_The only thing that will play the songs is XMMS music player03:28
andy_yeah, it worked just fine at my other house03:28
intelikeyrolling through the tracks quickly is normally because of the wrong output device selected.03:28
intelikeyowner_ Goontz ^03:29
andy_I had been manually editing my /etc/network/interfaces file every time I changed networks03:29
andy_but then I discovered knetwork-manager03:29
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intelikeyor possably unsupported format.03:29
intelikey!mp303:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:29
maxslm2003Could someone help me when I start up Kubuntu it puts me into command line I had to do ctrl+alt+f7 to get into the OS which is good and all but beryl is working this way03:30
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castoffandy_: sorry you have me stumped03:31
maxslm2003I am somewhat new to all this but I think i am learning fast, so i could be something stupid i did03:31
andy_ok, i'll keep trying, thanks03:31
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Iwonder|NotHeremaxslm2003:  are you possibly starting in single user mode?03:32
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owner_ya, I am trying to play MP3 but I thought I had MP3 plugins installed03:32
maxslm2003how do i know if i am03:32
Iwonderdo you have multiple choices in grub?03:32
maxslm2003yes03:33
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Iwonderdid you a different one?03:33
maxslm2003like when I first boot that grub loader?03:33
Iwonderyeah03:33
maxslm2003wait what do u mean by "did you a different one?" if u r asking if I choice a different one no i didnt03:34
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Iwonderyes did you try a different choice,i believe i have 2 per kernel,one loads kdm(graphical login) one loads console login(i can login,type sudo kdm)03:35
Iwonderi dunno if i did it,or if its default kubuntu behavior03:36
maxslm2003yea that is what i have i never change the setting to the recovery mode or what ever it is call let me reboot i try selecting the normal one to see if that works brb03:37
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=== eilker is happy with new login screen :D
intelikey:)03:38
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Iwonderdamn,my updater seems to be hung03:39
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maxslm2003nope that didnt work03:42
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KrAmMeRhow do i get beryl to start up automatically?03:47
Jucato!beryl | KrAmMeR03:48
ubotuKrAmMeR: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:48
JucatoKrAmMeR: the /topic in #ubuntu-effects points to a wiki with the instructions how03:48
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KrAmMeRk03:50
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KrAmMeRthanks03:50
Bi||aBongi have 108 process running in kde, i need kill process when i started kde03:50
Bi||aBonghow i can do this?03:50
crackhead_25question: how do you set up a new printer from the commandline??03:53
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SlynderdaleWhere do I find libgphoto2-2?03:55
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Slynderdale!libgphoto203:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libgphoto2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
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Slynderdale!libgphoto03:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libgphoto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:58
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ffffuwhat's the line to add in sources.list if i got the edgy dvd and i wanna update from it?03:58
Jucato!info libgphoto2-2 | Slynderdale03:59
ubotuslynderdale: libgphoto2-2: gphoto2 digital camera library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 671 kB, installed size 3760 kB03:59
Slynderdalewine: Depends: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 is to be installed03:59
mhall53best irc client for linux is?03:59
SlynderdaleEH, it won't let me install the latest version of wine03:59
Jucato!best04:00
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.04:00
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mhall53!wowzers04:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wowzers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:00
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crackhead_25ubotu: do you know how to setup a printer from the commandline? i can't seem to get cups or any other of the gui controllers to set it up. they all keep hanging.04:01
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ffffuwhat's the line to add in sources.list if i got the edgy dvd and i wanna update from it?04:03
jhutchinscrackhead_25: Dude, ubotu is a bot.04:04
jhutchinscrackhead_25: Try setting it up with cups.04:04
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jhutchinscrackhead_25: http://tinyurl.com/3csnpd May help04:05
jhutchinscrackhead_25: Real compelling nic there.04:05
ffffuhow to run synatic package manager????? is there one in edgy?04:05
crackhead_25thanks.. cups has been hanging every time i try to use it04:05
jhutchinsffffu: p04:05
crackhead_25cups won't even load on 127.0.0.1:63104:05
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ffffuwhat's the line to add in sources.list if i got the edgy dvd and i wanna update from it?04:07
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ffffu!apt-cdrom04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:09
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nonuda_!beryl04:11
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:11
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beta!nvidia04:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:13
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zouzou85hi guys, how do you change the language of your box?04:14
zouzou85I have english , but i want french!, any Ideas?04:14
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zouzou85I installed Language Support, and Language-support-fr, but i don't know how to access them!04:15
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zouzou85no IDEASSSS!!!!????04:16
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betais that right all i gotta do to install the nvidia driver is to apt-get "nvidia-glx"...there inst any specific package for my type of graphic card?04:17
betajust all nvidia drivers in one package?04:17
betaseems too easy ;)04:18
betainst = isnt04:18
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maxslm2003beta: well it really is that easy04:20
betaok cool04:20
maxslm2003beta: it worked for me04:20
betathx04:20
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betayou can attach a terminal to konq file browser04:24
betais it possible to attach one to every application that runs in konqueror04:25
betai mean the help desk for instance04:25
betait seems like for a noob at least it all runs in konq04:25
mhall53how do i run something in a terminal as root04:25
kaoticevilmhall53: sudo <command>04:26
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dystopianraymhall53: use sudo04:26
mhall53i get a error when i use that command04:26
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dystopianraymhall53: what is the error?04:26
mhall53hold i dont want to get in flooding trouble04:27
mhall53sudo apt-get remove grub04:27
mhall53E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unable)04:27
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Jucatois adept closed?04:28
mhall53E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is anotheress using it?04:28
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mhall53no its open04:28
Jucatoand why are you removing grub?04:28
mhall53to install gfxboot04:28
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Jucatohuh? gfxboot is not a bootloader. you still need grub for it to work04:28
mhall53can i post ubuntu forum link?04:29
Jucatoyes. the link04:30
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mhall53http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20885504:30
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crackhead_25jhutchins: i tried that page, but the same thing is happening.04:31
crackhead_25anyone know how to setup a new printer via commandline?04:31
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crackhead_25jhutchins: do you think uninstalling cups and reinstalling it will do something?04:31
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Jucatomhall53: ah I see... I'm not sure how updated that is... it's almost a year ago. gfxboot is available in the repositories04:32
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mhall53ok04:34
beta!paste04:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:36
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betahm, when trying to install the nvidia drivers i got the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11142/04:37
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betawhat should i do04:37
betathe nvidia splash screen didnt came up after restarting kde04:38
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dystopianraybeta: edit the driver section in xorg.conf from 'nv' to 'nvidia'04:39
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pollyoIs there a system info like in windows?  That will tell what speed the computer is and how much ram it has?04:39
pafnutiyhi all04:39
dasickispollyo: run ksysguard04:39
betadystopianray: the thing is in the xorg.conf it says 6800 LE which is my graphic card ima complet noob so im not sure04:40
dystopianraybeta: just change 'nv' to 'nvidia'04:40
betadystopianray: what does the entry "nv" or "nvidia" do?04:40
pollyodasickis: Thank you.04:40
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dystopianraybeta: 'nv' is the 2d-only driver, 'nvidia' is the 3d capable driver that you're trying to use04:40
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betai see thx alot04:41
betaany idea why it gave me error? i could translate the german lines04:41
beta+the04:41
dystopianraybeta: it tells you why, /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum has not been updated since you changed your xorg.conf and it's refusing to automatically proceed, it tells you what manual step to take04:43
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Jucatobeta: how abou the "sudo nvidia-xconfig" command?04:43
betaone moment04:44
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betaNew X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf04:45
betahm no wait...i did everything according to the manual....let me recheck04:45
betano = now04:45
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betaJucato: in the handbook it didnt say anything about "sudo nvidia-glx-config" just to do "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"04:47
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Jucatowhich handbook?04:47
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betaJucato: the kubuntu desktop guide that came with dappers help center04:47
beta!nvidia04:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:47
Jucatoah hm....04:48
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JucatoI actually don't know the technical difference between the "nvidia-xconfig" and "nvidia-glx-config enable" commnands04:48
Jucatobeta: btw, that was "sudo nvidia-xconfig" (the one that I gave)04:49
betaoh right04:49
betasorry04:49
betabut still it doesnt say anyway to that04:49
betaanywhere04:49
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Jucatobeta: you're on Dapper?04:50
betaJucato: yep04:50
Jucatohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:50
Jucatoi guess the command I gave is for edgy only...04:51
Jucatoor later versions of nvidia-glx04:51
betaJucato: i went through that as well and its the same as in the handbook04:51
betayeah for edgy it says that04:51
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Jucatostrange... I used the same command on Dapper before and didn't give me any problems04:51
betasudo nvidia-xconfig?04:51
Jucatoyeah04:52
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JucatoI think even way back in Breezy.. but can't remember :D04:52
betayes there werent errors for me as well..it told me it had written a new xorg.conf04:52
Jucatowell that's not an error. it's a notice. because it will really write a new xorg.conf :)04:53
betais "nvidia-glx-config enable"" supposed to do just the same?04:53
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beta(write a new xorg.conf?)04:53
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Jucatoyeah04:54
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Skulleri have a nvidia 5700VE and beryl seems to lag my system a lot....is there anything i should/can do?04:54
maxslm2003Can someone plz help me?04:55
dystopianraySkuller: turn off beryl effects or upgrade your computer04:55
dystopianraymaxslm2003: no04:55
Jucato!someone | maxslm200304:55
ubotumaxslm2003: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:55
betaJucato: now this is strange...it has changed some of the entrys from nv to nvida04:55
betaoO04:55
dystopianraybeta: exactly what I told you to do earlier04:55
Skullerdystopianray: the latter is not an option...and the former defeats the purpose of using beryl04:55
dystopianraySkuller: stop using beryl if you don't like it04:56
Jucatobeta: so it works? :D04:56
Skullerdystopianray: i think my card should be able to handle that much load without problem04:56
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betadystopianray: yes, i was about to do that when jucato came up with tha command04:56
Skullerdystopianray: what the??...i LOVE it :D04:56
betaJucato: probably...but i guess you have no idea as well why the correct command for dapper fails while the edgy ones worked? ;)04:57
maxslm2003Sorry didnt want to make anyone mad I reboot and I start in command prompt04:57
Skullerdystopianray: another thing worth mentioning....my nvidia-settings shows my bus is runnin at 4X...whereas the card+bus is capable of doing 8X04:57
Jucatoum nope :)04:57
beta:)04:57
dystopianraySkuller: your card isn't terribly good at all, it's not surprising that you're having performance issues04:57
maxslm2003I get this error kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot04:57
betauhm, change every "nv" entry to "nvidia" (some are still left "nv") ?04:57
dystopianraySkuller: what does 'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status' say?04:58
Jucatohm...04:58
MistaEDmaxslm2003: that's not an error, that just means there's no hibernation image to boot from afaik04:58
Skullerdystopianray: ok let me rephrase my query...is there a possibility that getting my card to run at 8X instead of 4X will help the situation?...if Yes then how do i do so?04:58
dystopianraybeta: there should only be one 'nv' entry to be changed to 'nvidia'04:58
maxslm2003mistaED: so how can i fix it04:58
dystopianraySkuller: agp isn't going to do anything for you04:58
Skullerdystopianray: AGP : 4X, Fast Writes : Disabled04:59
MistaEDmaxslm2003: that issue is probably unrelated to your real problem, unless that's what you were trying to do, hibernating your machine04:59
dystopianraySkuller: enabling fast writes might help, but agp 8x won't do anything05:00
Skullerdystopianray: umm but arent 8x cards supposed to be faster with an 8x bus?05:00
Skullerohh05:00
betawhat does a "#..." do in a config file?05:00
maxslm2003no it wasnt but i keep getting it come up each time05:00
Skullerdystopianray: how do i do that?05:00
maxslm2003this is after i installed beryl my first restart after it05:00
dystopianraySkuller: the cards are the same speed, only the bus is faster, and it's very unlikely you'd be saturing the bus05:00
dystopianraybeta: indicates a comment, a line to be ignored05:00
betai knew # was to ignore a line thought it mighzt be to ignore a whole section05:01
dystopianraySkuller: try this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Nvidia_Driver_AGP_FastWrite_and_Side_Band_Addressing05:01
Skullerdystopianray: so my card doesnt even process enough data to saturate a 4x bus?05:01
dystopianraySkuller: probably not, it's a fairly crap card05:01
tehdotproblem: Ubuntu recognizes wireless NIC, sees networks but will not connect to anything. Any ideas?05:02
Skullerdystopianray: :(....so why is it an 8x card?05:02
betabasically i have another device section for a second gpu i suppose...uhm it is uncommented correctly i ask myself05:02
betadoes it matter at all?05:02
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dystopianraySkuller: becuase 8x is more marketable than 4x05:02
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dystopianraySkuller: the agp speed has nothing to do with the speed of the card itself05:02
betathats the one still having "nv" as driver05:02
betahm, well lets see if it works05:03
betaghave to restart kde05:03
dystopianraySkuller: i believe they recommend at least a 6xxx series nvidia card for decent beryl performance05:04
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tehdotanybody have an idea why my nic will see my wireless, but won't connect to anything?05:05
dystopianraytehdot: what is the wireless chipset?05:05
betaok looks a lot better05:05
betaseems to be working at least i got the nvdia splash05:06
betacan i apt-get something to test if 3d is working?05:06
betaor any other quick method?05:06
dystopianraybeta: glxgears -printfps05:06
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betathx05:06
nonuda_how do i install my pcmcia modem?, lspcmcia show me : socket 1 Bridge: [yenta_cardbus]  [bus ID: 0000;00;03.1]  socket 1 Device 0:  [serial_cs]  [bus ID: 1.0] 05:07
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dystopianraynonuda_: is it a winmodem?05:07
dystopianraynonuda_: show us the lspci output, that lspcmcia output is useless05:07
nonuda_ok05:08
jayEvery now and then my sound just does not work.... what troubleshooting can I perform to figure what's wrong... When it doesn't work.. a coupl restarts usually fixes it05:10
nonuda_here it is, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11145/05:11
nonuda_but i guess itsnot a winmodem, btw scanModem didn't detect it05:11
pollyoAnyone know if a GeForce 6200 would be a good choice for Kubuntu?05:12
dystopianraynonuda_: is the card inserted?05:12
dystopianraypollyo: it's a rubbish card, but if you don't play games it's adequate05:12
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nonuda_yup05:13
pollyodystopianray: It has to be better then the card on this old dell PIII.05:13
pollyodystopianray: I'm only willing to pay $30 if I can get it on ebay.05:13
betaok working05:13
dystopianraypollyo: well it's fine if you're on the cheap05:13
betastill 1280x1024 is awfully small05:13
dystopianraybeta: add some modes to your xorg.conf05:14
pollyodystopianray: Does Linux have some good games?05:14
betait seems everytime you buy a bigger tft it shrinks to 15 " again after awhile your using it ;)05:14
dystopianraypollyo: there is doom3, quake4, whatever runs in wine, etc..05:14
betadystopianray: what do you mean...not running it at the default resolution?05:15
dystopianraybeta: it might be a good idea to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and select the nvidia driver and the resolutions that you want to use05:15
Skullerdystopianray: oh sorry i couldn't reply...had to go....well that is sad about the 6XXX onwards series requirement for beryl...05:15
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dystopianraySkuller: it's not a requirement, it's a recommendation05:15
dystopianraySkuller: did you try turning on fastwrites?05:16
pollyoSkuller: Do you know if beryl will run on a GeForece 6200?05:16
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Skullerdystopianray: my bad....i jst came back and am going through the page05:16
betadystopianray: uhm, i thought is just installed and configured the right driver? "nvidia" and "nv" are the only choices right (if you have an nvidia one)?05:16
beta-s05:16
nonuda_dystopianray : the card has been inserted05:16
dystopianraybeta: you're saying your resolution is too small05:16
Skullerpollyo: beryl should run...its just that your system will lag in doing things05:16
dystopianraypollyo: it'll run, but the 6200 is a POS, so don't except great performance05:17
pollyoSkuller: Where would I find the suggested requirements for beryl?05:17
Skullerpollyo: google it....or ask dystopianray05:17
betadystopianray: sorry...you got me wrong, my bad...i feel its too small....i just seem to get spoiled too soon when buying a bigger screen05:17
pollyodystopianray: I'm not sure if it is the video or the computer setup here but when I run google earth I can watch it draw the earth frame by frame.05:17
dystopianraypollyo: what video card do you have?05:18
betai think verything is setup ok now....nvidia driver at 1280x102405:18
pollyodystopianray: In kde video setup or whatever it is called it is nv tnt2 or something like that let me look again.05:18
dystopianraypollyo: ok, that is a very old card, so google earth will run poorly on it05:19
nonuda_dystopianray : ??05:19
dystopianraynonuda_: I don't know what else you can do, pcmcia cards usually show up in lspci, but in this case it's not05:19
pollyodystopianray: That is why I was looking for a cheap upgrade on ebay.05:19
pollyodystopianray: Do you think that the 6200 on a PIII will run beryl?05:20
dystopianraypollyo: yes, it'll run, just not well05:20
betahm, im constantly blown away what a joy it is to be working under kde05:20
betacompared to windows05:20
nonuda_oic05:20
betaits like a new age ;)05:20
pollyobeta: I am amazed at how much faster things appear to work next to windows.05:20
betamakes you think if you actually need to buy that mac05:21
nonuda_btw, as u see, i have ATI Rage Mobility, can i run beryl, currently gxifo show me that direct rendering = no05:21
betapollyo: if your referring to the technical side i cant say anything on it so fat...im a complete noob and i just allowed myself to explore kde a bit befor egetting back to the technical stuff05:22
betaits great05:22
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betafat = far05:22
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pollyoAnyone know why I wouldn't be able to change settings under System Settings / Sharing / File Sharing?05:23
dystopianraypollyo: did you click the 'administrator mode' button?05:23
pollyodystopianray: Yes.05:23
nonuda_!modem05:24
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto05:24
dystopianraypollyo: did you get the password prompt?05:24
pollyodystopianray:  Yes and I put the password in.05:24
dystopianraypollyo: and you didn't get the file sharing config?05:24
pollyodystopianray: I see it but it is not active.05:25
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pollyodystopianray: I can not click on anything or make changes.05:25
dystopianraypollyo: ah, well I don't know what could be causing that05:25
pollyodystopianray: Ok.  Thanks for the attempt.05:26
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intelikeywhy do i have to have locales installed,  that's silly on a system that uses LC_ALL=C     but if i remove it it takes everything except the MBR with it....05:27
intelikeylibc6 depends on locales   that's stupid...05:27
intelikey</rant>05:28
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intelikeypollyo what's the issue ?05:29
beta!dmix05:29
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:29
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nonuda_!pcmcia05:30
meme-1Anyone out there familar with Amaya (web development prg)?  The darn thing exits immediately upon starting.05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:30
meme-1I am looking for a good HTML/PHP editor (at least close enough to Dreamweaver) - so far I've found nothing! I thought Amaya would be a winner but I can't even get it to run.05:31
pollyointelikey: Can't get advanced file sharing to allow me to make changes.05:31
pollyointelikey: I click admin and the box comes up all shaded and will not allow changes,05:32
Slynderdalememe-1: Notepad? ;p05:32
intelikeyummm samba config ?05:32
firecrotchmeme-1: vi? emacs?05:32
meme-1Since jumping over to Ubuntu, I am finding it is not easy to replace all the polished tools I used under XP.05:32
meme-1Okay... you folks are not funny!!!! lol05:33
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meme-1Is there actually a "notepad" for linux?  Why bother?05:33
intelikey"all the polished tools I used under XP"   :)05:33
guuuuuhey, anyone knows a repository where i can found wine?05:33
pollyointelikey: I think so.  It is on KDE under System Settings / Sharing / File Sharing05:33
firecrotchmeme-1: In all seriousness though, I've found Kate to be very nice for HTML and PHP05:33
Slynderdaleintelikey: Isn't that an oxxymoron?05:33
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guuuuumeme-1: what about "vi" "nano" "kedit"? maybe openoffice can save as notepad file05:34
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guuuuuhey, does anyone knows a repository where i can found wine?05:34
intelikeypollyo could probably do some manual adjusting that would then allow that.  but i'm network illiterate so don't ask me where.05:34
Slynderdale!wine05:35
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:35
intelikeySlynderdale seems that way to me...05:35
Slynderdaleguuuuu: ^^05:35
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pollyoI can see options for "Enable Local Netowrk File Sharing" it hs both "Simple sharing" and "Advanced Sharing"05:35
guuuuui want a repository for it05:35
intelikeyor maybe and oxsymoron  :)05:35
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betameme-1: i read nvu comes close to dreamweaver...but i have ni idea...never used it05:35
meme-1intelkey: yes...  polished... hey... come-on... there are some great tools for Linux... (Kstars is amazing) but am also finding a lot of programs work better under wIndows XP (such as "Scorched 3D - it is terrible under Gnome/Ubuntu)05:35
Slynderdaleguuuuu: It has the repository on thes site05:35
betani = no05:36
beta!nvu05:36
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ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB05:36
meme-1beta: thx... I will chk out nvu!05:36
guuuuuno, there isn`t05:36
meme-1firecrotch: I will chk out Kate as well.05:37
Skullerhey guys...my agp is running at 4X in kubun...(nvidia-settings)..instead of 8X which it should..anyone knows how to 'fix' it?05:37
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meme-1Changing topic.... anyone get Scorched 3D to work well under Ubuntu... this game is amazing on XP!05:38
guuuuumy universe repository is running but dont find it05:38
intelikeypollyo if you don't get anywhere with it in here maybe someone in #ubuntu or ##linux can help with it.   maybe just tell what you are trying to do and don't mention how you are trying to get there, they may have an alternate approach that will work for you.05:38
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betais dmix a part of alsa and enabled per default on dapper and up?05:39
meme-1Scotched 3D is so cool.... that it is seriously the first and only game I've played in years. Too busy programming otherwise.05:39
intelikey!dmix05:40
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:40
betathe thing is i tried to play several audio files using different engines to see if simultanous sound is working and it did05:40
betabut when i had sound from jva app. amarok crashed complaining another sound device was in use05:41
betahow do i really verify if simultanous sound is working?05:41
intelikeycause java didn't play nice with the audio divice05:42
meme-1beta: sorry to jump in... but I was curious too... I ran both XMMS and VLC playing different MP3 songs... they both play simultaneously05:43
meme-1Not sure if this was what your conversation was about though.05:44
betameme-1: yup here to05:44
betaintelikey: what exactly do you mean by that?05:44
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pollyointelikey: OK.  I'll give it a shot.05:44
meme-1I am SOOOO happy to have VLC working! Not sure why ubuntu doesn't default to this player. So much better than the one pre-installed.05:45
Admiral_Chicagomeme-1: its not part of KDE05:45
Admiral_Chicagoor GNOME05:45
intelikeybeta i mena that java as per your test was accessing the audio device as opposed to sending it's sound to the sound server.05:45
meme-1yes I know... but it should be.05:45
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betameme-1: i guess its preference dialogs would be too complicated to comply with the kde standards...wild guess only though05:46
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intelikeyonly one process can access the audio device at any given time.  that's why kde uses artsd as it sound server everything can dump sound to arts and it can send to the device.05:46
betabut to be true so far i think coffeine is great as video player05:47
intelikeybeta it's not free05:47
betaoh there you go05:47
SlynderdaleYou know its probily cheaper to build your own MP3/Music player then buy an iPod? ;p05:48
intelikeygnome or kde can't just build non-free apps into their packages and still call them FOSS05:48
betaintelikey: hm, i got some rrors when installing sun java..so i hope the sound problem will get fixed if i actually fix that ;)05:49
betahm, but i guess that means i should switch back to arts from alsa05:50
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intelikeyyou have to answer yes to the EULA durring the install of java.   see the howto's/wiki's05:51
intelikey!java05:51
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:51
xavior2180what's the difference between universe and multiverse?05:51
intelikeya buck two ninty five.05:52
intelikeyno really they are described on the !repos page i think05:52
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xavior2180!repos?05:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repos? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:53
intelikey!repos05:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:53
betano i got it installed...but something went wrong when i tried to set sun as default05:53
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betagot some errors there05:54
nonuda_how do i sharing my internet connection?05:54
xavior2180intelikey: thanks :)05:55
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intelikeyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components <<< actual page.  but it is linked from the other...05:57
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betahow does the web archiver work06:06
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betait was always a bitch when i tried to use webarchivers06:06
betanever worked06:06
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betai mean does it actually work06:07
betanot the technical side of it06:07
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betait seems to just save an archive format06:08
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betano need to put in how far in a directory structure you want to go06:08
ssmasudis there a utility in UBUNTU for remote login like in windows we had PUTTY??06:08
Jucatobeta: konqueror's web archive tool?06:09
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betaJucato: yep06:09
intelikeyssmasud oh windows finally got something like ssh vnc and friends... ?   glad to hear it...06:09
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Jucatobeta: yeah it works. it creates a .war archive which is basically just an archive like gzip06:10
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Jucatoyou can view it directly in Konqueror or extract the contents.06:10
mike__i suck at lifffe06:10
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betaJucato: with other tools i could never put in the correct value for how far in the structure it would crawl...and it seems almost impossible to me to do anyways...how could you guess the structure of a complex website06:11
mike__using Konversation how do i directly message someone?06:11
betahm, will give it a try06:11
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betawould be awesome if it actually worked06:11
Jucatomike__: double click the nick in the list? or /query nick06:11
mike__what if they are not in this room?06:11
Jucatobeta: like any other "Save HTML" utility, it just saves the current page and the files directly used by that page06:12
ssmasudis there something like PUTTY in UBUNTU??06:12
Jucatomike__: /query <nick>06:12
betaJucato: ah dangit06:12
firecrotchssmasud: ssh :)06:12
Jucato!info putty | ssmasud06:12
ubotussmasud: putty: Telnet/SSH client for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.58-4 (edgy), package size 270 kB, installed size 672 kB06:12
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mrp193isei12345?06:14
betaquick question: can i make bash highlight error messages?06:14
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betaor send them to a different terminal..something to set them apart form the output?06:14
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intelikey2> /dev/tty206:15
FrankBurnscan somebody quickly tell me how to identify what this computers video card is06:16
betaintelikey: uhm, you mean a secon terminal session?06:16
ssmasudif i use SSH to remotely connect any server.....what do i type in as the password06:16
FrankBurnsusing dapper06:16
intelikeybeta command args  2> /dev/tty206:16
betaintelikey: what does it do?06:16
intelikeyany tty number.  but you will probably have to set the permission on the device06:16
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Jucatohi waves06:17
Jucatoer.. I mean hi Admiral_Chicago!06:17
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Admiral_Chicagohow is it going06:17
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Jucatonot fine.. a bit hot in here...06:17
Jucatoer what happened?06:17
firecrotchssmasud: You would use the password (on the server) for whatever user you're trying to login is as06:18
FrankBurnsis there no way to retrieve this computers video card info06:18
mike__Can a nice person please give a newbie(me) some help installing a few drivers?06:18
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mrp193Can a nice person please give a newbie(me) some help installing a few drivers?06:18
ssmasudfirecrotch.....its not working....but when i use putty...it is working06:18
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: changed to Wordpress06:18
JucatoFrankBurns: from KInfoCenter or "lspci | grep -i vga" in Konsole06:18
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firecrotchssmasud:  ssh username@host06:18
intelikeystderr is denoted as 2 if you redirrect 2 (stderr) to a console it prints anything that would have came to the working console/terminal to the other device.     you can use the device for the x-terminal if you like06:19
FrankBurnsthanx06:19
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: aaah. now I know someone I can ask about wp stuff :P06:19
firecrotchssmasud:  otherwise it tries to login as the user that you're logged into your machine as06:19
Admiral_Chicagoyea...i'm not a big fan of it, maybe after I hack on CSS06:19
laptopDOES ubuntu have a registry??06:19
firecrotchlaptop: nope06:20
intelikeybeta one could do something more reasonable like    command args 2> error.log ;less error.log06:20
betaintelikey: urgs....ill need a while to make sense of that...(poor english)06:20
Jucatolaptop: no. and this is not #ubuntu :D06:20
beta;)06:20
laptopevery thing is standalone??06:20
Admiral_Chicagolaptop: no06:20
Admiral_Chicagodefine stand alone06:20
betaintelikey:  so error.log would send not only the bash errors but all to that terminal?06:20
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ssmasudfirecrotch....thanks dude06:21
Jucatowhat does a registry have to do with it, laptop?06:21
Admiral_ChicagoKubuntu is modular06:21
intelikeybeta if you wanted all output redirrected you would use  > location 2>&106:21
laptoprequires not association thru registry06:21
firecrotchssmasud:  no problem06:21
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: maybe you can make more sense of his question... I'm out for a while06:22
betaintelikey: ok ill note that down...will get back to it later06:22
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betaintelikey: just to simply highlight the rrors (different color) aint possible though?06:22
intelikeybeta only redirrecting 2 means only redirrecting what goes to stderr   only redirrecting 1  means only redirrecting what goes to stdout06:22
Admiral_Chicagolaptop: why would we need a registry?06:22
firecrotchHmm... well, in Windows, the registry is where the config settings for everything is stored06:23
intelikeybeta normally the output of stderr and stdout are printed on screen06:23
firecrotchI would compare it to /etc06:23
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Admiral_Chicagoor ~/.06:23
intelikeybeta it is possable. but you don't want to dive in that deep.06:23
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Admiral_Chicagoor /dev06:23
Admiral_Chicagoscratch that...06:23
mrp193Would someone please be able to help me install a few drivers that i am having trouble with?06:24
firecrotchmrp193: I'm sure someone could help if you told us what drivers you're trying to install :)06:24
betaintelikey: damn...and i thought your first suggestion was complicated ;)06:24
betathx a heap though06:24
betawill have too look at it later06:25
intelikeybeta it would bassicly mean rewriting the vt to scan for E*: text and adding code to it.06:25
mrp193i am trying to install flash player and also nvidia video card drivers06:25
mrp193but i am geting weird errors with both of them06:25
Admiral_Chicagowhat program saves what i coppy and paste06:25
intelikeynp06:25
mrp193i am extremely new to linus (8 hours new)06:25
Admiral_Chicagomrp193: which drivers06:25
betaallright, i will defintely not adding code anywhere soon ;)06:25
mrp193the driver for the video card is for an nvidia geforce 660006:25
Admiral_Chicagomrp193: you need multiverse and backports06:25
Admiral_Chicago!repo06:26
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:26
mrp193what are those?06:26
Admiral_Chicagomrp193: ^^ they are links to servers that store the program06:26
Admiral_Chicagoand depending on the repo, you can get various files...06:26
intelikeybeta also you quickly find that some code monkeys use stderr when they should be outputing to sdtout  and that really gets to be a problem...06:26
Admiral_Chicagomrp193: or do this...go to pastebin.ca and paste everything in /etc/apt/sources.list06:27
Admiral_Chicagoand send me the link06:27
Admiral_Chicagoah i wated klipper06:27
mrp193why does this Error - artsmessage      Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting mean?06:28
intelikeybeta some times it desirable to chuck the output in the trash and only look for errors    command > /dev/null   would normally do that but then you find apps writen to output everything to stderr and that  > /dev/null  doesn't change the output at all.06:28
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mrp193how do i register? it keeps telling me that private message from unregistered users arent allowed06:29
firecrotchmrp193:  /msg NickServ REGISTER password emailaddress06:31
intelikeybeta one more note.    piping everything into less can be very handy for searching the output    command args 2>&1 | less    then you can hit   /E:    and it will highlight E:  for you...   or   /bash:   and it will highlight  bash:   for you.06:31
intelikeyman less06:31
betaok thx06:31
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betawill get the dictionary out later06:31
Admiral_Chicagono, you don't have to PM me, just send the link in the channel06:32
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firecrotch!pm > mrp19306:35
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Jucato!register | mrp19306:36
ubotumrp193: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:36
mrp193i registered already06:36
mrp193okay here is my number 1 question.... what is this artsmessage sound server fatal error?06:37
intelikeyGet:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main locales 2.3.18.2 [3285kB]   <<<< i wish i could remove that package so it would stop updating it.06:37
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intelikey/ignore *@* pm06:38
intelikey:)06:38
mrp193How can i install a .run file?06:40
firecrotchintelikey: How can I set like an allow list, where certain people can PM me?06:40
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intelikeyfirecrotch that would be app specific.  i use bx what do you use ?06:43
firecrotchGaim06:44
intelikeyi don't even know if it's possable there...06:44
firecrotchintelikey: I suppose it would work just like for AIM06:44
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intelikeysorry06:44
intelikeyprobably06:45
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firecrotchintelikey: could you try to pm me?06:46
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dx11101im logged in as a user into Kubuntu, what i want to do is create a task in KCron to shutdown at 1AM but it wont run because i am not root06:47
dx11101how do i make it work?06:47
firecrotch!sudo | dx1110106:47
ubotudx11101: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:47
dx11101yeah but how do i make it work in KCron06:47
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dx11101you have to be root to run shutdown -h now06:48
dx11101but i want to automate the task in KCron06:49
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dx11101i hate sudo06:50
dx11101worst thing ever06:50
mrp193ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the06:50
mrp193       Adobe Flash Player installer.06:50
mrp193what do i do now?06:50
firecrotchdx11101:  Why do you think it's so bad?06:50
dx11101because06:50
dx11101im logged into linux as user like a good boy but i get problems because i cant run shutdown -h now in KCron06:51
dx11101unless i go into the command line and type sudo su06:51
firecrotchdx11101:  Open KCron as root with kdesu, then add the task06:52
dx11101how do you kdesu?06:52
mrp193hey fire? do you mind if i PM you?06:52
mrp193and ask you a question or 2?06:52
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firecrotch!pm | mrp19306:52
ubotumrp193: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.06:52
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dx11101oops06:52
dx11101how do you KDESU fire?06:53
mrp193i just asked you if you would mine fire?06:53
firecrotchdx11101:  From Konsole, kdesu kcron06:53
firecrotchmrp193:  My point is to ask in here so others may help/benefit from the discussion06:53
intelikeyalt+f2 kdesu kcron06:53
mrp193but no one was responding when i was asking in here06:53
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intelikeyflash for k8 ?06:54
mrp193okay my number 1 concern is my flah player 9 driver...06:54
firecrotchmrp193:  Then that would mean that no one here who is watching the channel has a clue about it06:54
dx11101so if i put the task under root, will the task still run if im logged in as a user?06:54
mrp193i keep geting this error....06:54
mrp193ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the06:54
mrp193       Adobe Flash Player installer.06:54
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dx11101it means the installer is 32 bit06:55
intelikeyyeah you aint gonna use that installer on a k8 system06:55
intelikeymrp193 ^06:55
firecrotchdx11101:  It _should_ run as whatever user set up the task, and it will run no matter who is logged in06:55
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mrp193i just installed linux 8 hours ago and im kinda confused06:55
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mrp193if i dont have to use that installer what do i have to do to get it to work?06:55
intelikey!flash06:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:55
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash06:56
intelikeyi dont know if flash has a k8 release....06:56
dx11101thankyou for the help06:56
mrp193what is k8?06:56
dx11101good thing there aare people who know how to use linux :D06:56
intelikeyamd 6406:56
mrp193ohhhh i get it06:57
firecrotchdx11101:  you're welcome :)06:57
mrp193can i install the non-64 bit ubuntu?06:57
mrp193or will that not work on my processer?06:57
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dx11101kdesu will be handy i wasnt even aware of the command since i usually log in as root until recently06:57
intelikeymrp193 yes you can run i386 on a k8 system.06:57
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mrp193i am sorry, what is i386?06:58
firecrotchdx11101:  just to let you know, kdesu is for graphical apps, sudo is for command line stuff06:58
dx11101i figured as much06:58
dx11101i knew about sudo already06:58
madmax1234is there an easy way to set up a vpn06:58
mrp193is that the non-64 bit verson?06:58
madmax1234!vpn06:59
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD06:59
madmax1234!vnc06:59
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX06:59
dx11101!vmware06:59
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers06:59
Iwonderanyone haD  any grub problems after edgy->feisty upgrade?06:59
intelikeymrp193 intel 80386 architecture   good for any k6-k8  i386-i786 system06:59
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intelikeyor in windows terms  it the 32 bit version.07:00
betaanyone knows where amarok looks for covers and how to edit that path?07:00
mrp193am i allowed to have both?07:00
mrp193will that work?07:01
dx1110164 bit is not needed on the desktop yet, unless your plotting asteriod trajectories or something07:01
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dx11101if you use linux to run irc and xmms use 32 bit for drivers07:01
intelikey!chroot | mrp19307:01
ubotumrp193: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box07:01
mrp193okay, what if i do build 32 bit environments and install those files?07:02
mrp193will they work in 64bit?07:02
dx11101mixed mode is a bad idea07:02
intelikeyi really think it would do the hardware makes a world of good if no one would buy a k8 box...07:02
dx11101some stuff wont work right07:02
dx11101you have to have both libraries 32 bit and 64 bit07:03
mrp193they dont even sell anything that is 32 bits now a days07:03
mrp19364 bit is the standard07:03
dx11101who07:03
dx11101Processors?07:03
mrp193yes07:03
dx11101big deal07:03
intelikeydx11101 but a chroot can have both in their own local07:03
firecrotchbeta: it uses Amazon07:03
madmax1234im looking for a program that is like pcanywhere that can handle and possible email its new ip07:03
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Skullerhey can anyone explain me whats the deal with 32bit and 64 bit?07:04
madmax1234a program for a dynamic ip07:04
dx11101imagine if they made a 64 bit processor that wasnt back compatible with 32 bit code, it wouldnt sell a single box07:04
betalooked for lyrics in file browser navigation wanted to display them and the playback stops in main amarok and it puts "supposed lyrics" instead of the running song there oO07:04
dx11101the big deal with 64 bit is this07:05
dx11101you want 64 bit to have 64 bit then yay07:05
firecrotchmadmax1234:  Are you trying to update your ip with dyndns or something?07:05
betafirecrotch: i thought the same first...but it cant be since it doenst display some covers witch it catches from amazon with no problem07:05
betai think it looks in your folders07:05
madmax1234im trying to remote desktop on my computer at my moms house07:05
firecrotchbeta: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/What_is_Amarok%3F07:06
dx11101i have a x2 3800+ but i have never used it in a 64 bit environent07:06
madmax1234her ip is dynamic07:06
betayup, i should go to the amrok people with that07:06
betajust thought someone knew it anyways07:06
Skullerdx11101: to have a full 64 bit environment what all do you need to have that is 64 bit?07:06
mrp193so apparently i downloaded the wrong version of ubuntu07:06
firecrotchbeta: That page says that it uses Amazon07:06
mrp193?07:07
madmax1234so i need something that will either send a connect request to me or its like pcanywhere07:07
dx11101you need to install the 64 bit binaries07:07
mrp193how?07:07
intelikeyyep that's what amarok is    "* Super eye-candy interface"07:07
Skullerdx11101: i meant in terms of hardware07:07
dx11101usually you download either the 64 bit or 32 bit version07:07
mrp193i did 64 i think07:07
betafirecatch: well cant be....why does it give you the option of getting covers from amazon...if the feault setting was to get it from there07:07
dx11101when you talk in terms of a 64 bit operating system the processor is what matters07:07
betaalso no covers for people not on the net....and all the traffic for people with modems...nope i dont think07:07
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dx11101you will gain nothing going from 32 bit to 64 unless you have a high traffic server or you are number cruching really really big numbers07:08
dx11101infact some things run slower07:08
Skullerdx11101: so it is not mandatory to run a 64 bit os to run a 64 bit processor?...if so do you have any advantages of the 64 bit proc running on a 32 bit os?07:08
dx11101most 64 bit processors emulate 32 bit07:09
dx11101i think theres a couple server procs out there that are 64 bit only07:09
Skullerohh07:09
Skullerk thanx fer da info07:10
dx11101all the 64 bit does is make it so you can store larger numbers in the registers07:10
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intelikeyi really think it would do the hardware makes a world of good if no one would buy a 64bit box...     i know no one will agree    that doesn't change my openion.07:10
dx11101huh?07:11
dx1110164 bit?07:11
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dx11101then its necessary to have 32 bit to render the latest monsters in videogames 64 bit will finally get adopted in the mainstream market07:12
dx11101i mean 64 bit07:12
dx11101whatever07:13
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hackdaddyhas anyone been able to build Perl's OpenGL module on Kubuntu 6.10 ?07:24
intelikeyi wonder why svgatextmode can't do 80x25     says sync out of range...   does 100 * 37 plenty good though...07:25
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mervteckCan anyone tell me how to extract a tgz file with root privelages07:27
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mervteckanyone?07:30
firecrotchmervteck: sudo tar -xzf filename07:30
mervteckty fire07:30
mervteckhey fire do you run cedega ever?07:31
firecrotchmervteck: Nope, never07:31
mervteckhow would i unpack the tgz file with root to my "/" directory07:31
hackdaddyhas anyone been able to build Perl's OpenGL module on Kubuntu 6.10 ?07:32
firecrotchmervteck: you would just stick it on the end of the command I gave you - sudo tar -xzf filename /07:32
mervtecko ok07:32
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mervteckwhats a good file manager i can get that does root privilages?07:34
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JucatoAlt+F2, kdesu konqueror07:34
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Elive_user92aa07:36
Elive_user92anybody ??07:36
Elive_user92anybody have used the BRASERO cd burner ? can i trust my cd to this app ??07:37
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epimeth~locale07:40
epimeth!locale07:40
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf07:40
laptophow can i add a keyboard that is french;;;  and   how can i add an lcd monitor to my laptop07:41
laptop dual monitor07:42
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premier_does linux (/kde) have any good flash card programs?07:42
laptop??07:42
premier_Preferably one that is scim compatable (I need it for japanes)07:42
premier_like a vocabulary trainer07:43
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corigoHow to add fonts to the system?07:43
crackhead_25how come i can't skip ahead playback of a .rm in kaffeine or any other media player on kubuntu?07:44
crackhead_25it plays all right. i installed the restricted format codecs. it just won't skip ahead..07:45
wolferinesanyone good with Nvidia cards (dual) and xorg.conf?07:45
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firecrotchit seems that ubuntu-restricted-formats broke Kaffeine07:49
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hackdaddyhow do i look at what's on my usb drive from the terminal?07:51
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wolferinesits in media07:51
wolferinesunless its not mounted yet07:52
firecrotchhackdaddy: just cd to wherever you mounted it and ls07:52
hackdaddyi never learned how to mount, well, you know i know how to do it that way but not the linux way07:52
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firecrotchhackdaddy: does it mount when you plug it in?07:54
hackdaddyi didn't have the thumb plugged in when i started the vmware07:54
hackdaddyno07:54
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firecrotchhackdaddy: mount /dev/device mountpoint07:55
SilentDishackdaddy: if you want to mount something for all users, the basic format is:  sudo mount /dev/something /path/to/mountpoint -t <type> -o user.  Lotsa more options depending on what craziness you wanna do :)07:55
firecrotchhackdaddy: you can find out the device location by running dmesg07:56
hackdaddycool, thanks, you very helpful guys!07:56
SilentDishackdaddy: we try, when not involved in obscure quasi-offtopic conversations in other channels lol07:57
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hackdaddyhey, i'm the methadone addict of obscure quasi-offtopic conversations :-)07:58
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szakalswitam08:00
hackdaddyi typed "dschmeg" and it started deleting a bunch of stuff.  is that bad?08:00
szakalsjest ktos moze z polski08:01
SilentDis!po | szakals08:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:02
SilentDis!polish | szakals08:02
ubotuszakals: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl08:02
szakalsdzieki08:02
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corigoHow to add fonts to the system?08:06
SilentDis!fonts | corigo08:06
ubotucorigo: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer08:06
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hackdaddywhat's better DirectX or OpenGL?08:11
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SilentDishackdaddy: opengl is available under linux.... directx is basically windows-only.  neither is 'better' than the other really... just takes something like cedega to run dx-only games under windows08:13
SilentDishackdaddy: er, under linux08:13
hackdaddythanks, silentdis08:14
SilentDishackdaddy: nt :)08:14
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hackdaddyhave you guys tried plasma pong?  www.plasmapong.com08:16
hackdaddyit's OpenGL on windows and has fluid dynamics, etc08:17
wolferinesanyone good with xorg.conf ? (Nvidia)08:17
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SilentDiswolferines: what problems are you having?08:18
wolferinesmany08:18
wolferinessetting up twinview especially08:18
SilentDiswolferines: I haven't messed with that yet personally... lets see what ubotu has...08:18
SilentDis!twinview | wolferines08:18
ubotuwolferines: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead08:18
tempsanityanybody knows how do i turn off all bitchx colors?08:18
mervteckcan anyone tell me why cedega says i failed on the sound test for OSS and ALSA08:19
wolferinesSilentDis: im looking for more of a hands on assistance, thanks though08:19
SilentDismervteck: does sound work normally on your machine?  what distro version?08:19
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hackdaddywhat's better nedit or Kate?08:24
hackdaddywhat's better nedit or Kate or scite?08:24
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stdindepends what you like best08:25
mervteckEdgy and No ive never been able to get my sound to work even after 6 reinstalls, but every other time it passed the sound test08:25
SilentDishackdaddy: different tools for different tasks, for different prefrences for different people.  I like kate, it does what I need it to. :)08:25
hackdaddyi just tried kate for the first time and i really like her08:27
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firecrotchI use it for PHP, and I really like it's syntax highlighting08:27
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hackdaddyyeah, the syntax highlighting is sweet08:28
mervteckcan anyone help me get my sound to work ? =\08:29
firecrotchPlus I can easily switch between files that I'm editing, and it's integrated with KDE's FTP support, so I can save directly to my server08:29
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hackdaddyis there any way i can have a system hot-key to like launch open a new terminal?08:30
hackdaddyfirecrotch, i'll have to try that -- sounds very useful08:30
stdinhackdaddy: System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Command Shortcuts08:31
hackdaddythe Kate icon is fairly Freudian...08:31
hackdaddythat's a really big pencil writing in a little tiny notebook, but it feels so good08:32
hackdaddythanks, stdin08:33
mervteckcan anyone help meh? =(08:33
firecrotchhackdaddy: You have to have a pretty sick mind to notice that08:33
SilentDismervteck: what kind of sound card do you have?  does linux even see it?  use this command to check:  lspci08:33
hackdaddyfirecrotch, thanks :-)08:33
firecrotchI noticed it :)08:33
SilentDismervteck: if you want, you can !pastebin the output, and I'll sift through it for ya :)08:33
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wolferinesanyone good with xorg.conf ? (Nvidia)08:34
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xushianyone here in europe ? did you change the daylight savings time yet or not ?08:35
tempsanitydo you guys know a beryl/compiz repo for ubuntu feisty?08:35
mervteck!pastebin08:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:35
tempsanityshould i use the edgy one?08:35
tempsanityand which one would you recommend08:35
SilentDistempsanity: not sure if they've got it setup for feisty yet, other than svn repos :P08:35
mervteckhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11154/ ^^ there ya go08:36
SilentDistempsanity: i'd say give it about 2 weeks after feisty launches, and they'll have repos setup.08:36
stdintempsanity: there is a feisty repo08:36
stdintempsanity: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main08:36
firecrotchtempsanity: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main08:36
tempsanitythanks for the answers!08:37
fignewmervteck: what do you mean by pass the sound test? did you hear sound?08:37
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fignewstdin: wins!08:37
SilentDisfignew: he's trying to get cedega working. :)08:37
fignewOY! missed that08:37
stdinfirecrotch: you noticed that beryl-manager and emerald-themes are in feisty/universe now?08:37
SilentDismervteck: looks like you have 2 sound devices... are you using the built-in one, or the SB Live! card?08:38
fignewtry running artsdsp cedega08:38
fignew^^^mervteck08:38
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firecrotchstdin: Nope, didn't notice that08:38
mervteckSB Live! is the one i wanna use, because its my 5.1 card08:38
mervteckwell fig i dont have sound EVER even without cedega08:38
fignewso no programs have sound?08:39
mervteckive tested sound running speakers on every port08:39
mervtecki get nothing08:39
mervteckright08:39
fignewbut the soundtest worked?08:39
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stdinfirecrotch: looks like beryl (core) may, one day, make it in the repos08:39
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SilentDismervteck: the speakers are plugged into the SB card, right?  (always good to clear the easy stuff first) :)08:39
mervteckyesh =D08:40
firecrotchstdin: Well, as long as it's not installed by default, I'm happy08:40
SilentDismervteck: and, are you using a digital plug in, or the analog plugs, on the SB Live! card?08:40
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stdinfirecrotch: no, at least not in feisty08:40
fignewmervteck: can you disable the old card in the BIOS? (sorry SilentDis :))08:40
SilentDisfignew: eh, it's no biggy having 'em both on.  sure sucks a resource and IRQ spot... but...08:41
firecrotchstdin: It still needs a LOT of work before I would even consider it ready to be a default08:41
stdinfirecrotch: true, but we gotta compeat with vista now08:41
Iwonder|NotHerecan you cat <somefile> >> /dev/dsp?08:41
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Iwonderbe prepared to hit ctrl+c08:41
fignewmervteck: cat /dev/random /dev/dsp08:42
SilentDisroflmao08:42
SilentDisthat's mean08:42
fignewmean?08:42
fignewnot at all08:42
fignewdo it... it's just static08:42
Iwonderits a legit test08:42
mervteckfig do i put that in Konsole08:43
Iwonderif it doesn't error,try amix08:43
SilentDisyes true, but if he had speaker volume all the way up trying to fix it... lol08:43
fignewmervteck: yes08:43
mervteckand im using the metal plug guy..08:43
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mervteckfig08:43
SilentDismervteck: I have an SB Live! card myself.  what color is the ring you plug you stuck your speakers into?08:43
firecrotchstdin: yeah, unfortunately08:43
fignewwhoops mervteck08:43
mervtecktheres alot of jibberish bullschvit comming up08:43
fignewmervteck: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp08:43
mervteckgreen ring08:44
CarinArrhey.. My kubuntu/windows dual boot has worked fine for a week or so (since complete reinstall of system), this morning when i try to start it it gives me a grub error 1608:44
fignewI for got the >08:44
fignewforgot*08:44
SilentDismervteck:  you're using...  analog.08:44
fignew> sends it to the soundcard08:44
mervteckthats what i though =P08:44
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SilentDismervteck: KMenu > System Settings08:44
mervteckcat /dev/random > /dev/dsp08:44
mervteckoops08:44
mervteck1 sec08:44
CarinArrwould this be due to a hardware problem? The machine is brand new and I only got it a week ago08:44
mervteckmervteck@BlackMagik:~$ cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp08:44
mervteckbash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy08:44
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mervtecksilent im in system settings08:45
SilentDismervteck: Sound System > Hardware.08:45
fignewmervteck: killall artsd08:45
fignewthen try again08:45
mervteckk silent im with you08:45
mervteck1 sec fig08:45
fignewSilentDis: actually, catting random is sorta quiet08:45
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SilentDismervteck: should have a choice of audio devices at "Select the audio device".  pick the SB Live Card08:46
firecrotchCarinArr: A problem with the filesystem on one of your partitions, probably08:46
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SilentDisfignew: really?  *runs off to test that herself*08:46
mervtecknope i jsut get OSS ALSA and all those, not the SB Live card08:46
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firecrotchCarinArr:  You'll need to run fsck on all of them and hope that that fixes it08:46
CarinArrfirecrotch: how do i do that?08:47
SilentDismervteck:  aargh, i can't remember where the setting is in kubuntu... room, where do you go to pick a soundcard?  last I had to worry about this, it was on a machine with gnome. :P08:47
Iwonderdoes grub-install need to be run if a kernel is updated via adept-manager?08:48
Iwonderk-menu,setting,sounds& multimedia?08:49
firecrotchCarinArr:  You'll need to boot into single user mode, and then run fsck08:49
CarinArrdo i need my cd for that given grub doesn't get far enough for me to boot into single user mode?08:49
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firecrotchCarinArr:  I think the LiveCD has an option for a repair mode that will let you fix stuff like this, yeah08:51
SilentDismervteck: i hate to do this, but I'm gonna refer you to the howto on sound setup.  I simply can't remember where the setting is in kubuntu :(08:52
SilentDis!sound | mervteck08:52
ubotumervteck: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:52
fignewmervteck: did you ever try killall artsd08:53
mervteck=\ done it and didnt work >.<08:53
fignewthen doing the cat /dev/random thing?08:53
mervteckno ill do it now whats the exact command08:53
fignewkillall artsdsp; cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp08:53
fignewwhoops08:53
fignewkillall artsd; cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp08:53
SilentDisi do realize I have a question though... what package do i need to grab to enable mp3 support for burning audio cds in k3b?08:53
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Jucato!info libk3b2-mp3 | SilentDis08:54
ubotusilentdis: libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB08:54
SilentDisJucato: thanks :)08:54
Jucato:)08:54
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mervteckk i tried your commands and no good08:55
fignewis there an error?08:55
fignewor just no sound?08:55
mervteckmervteck@BlackMagik:~$ cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp08:56
mervteckbash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy08:56
mervteckmervteck@BlackMagik:~$08:56
fignewdo killall artsd first08:57
mervtecki did i jsut didnt coppy that first08:57
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crackhead_25what's the best macromedia dreamweaver replacement available on kubuntu??08:57
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SilentDisi'm far too tired to be of much help to anyone tonight I think.  g'night all :)08:58
mervteckmervteck@BlackMagik:~$ killall artsd08:58
mervteckmervteck@BlackMagik:~$ cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp08:58
mervteckbash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy08:58
mervteckmervteck@BlackMagik:~$08:58
crackhead_25also, why might i not be able to load cups in 127.0.0.1:631? it just times out always.. ???08:59
fignewmervteck: did you add the user mervteck after you installed? or during the install?08:59
mervteckdurring08:59
mervteckcouldent i do an override device location and set to my SB LIVE card?09:01
krautmoin09:01
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hackdaddywhat's the best slideshow app in Kubuntu?09:02
fignewhave you disabled it in the bios?09:02
mervteckdisabled what?09:02
fignewthe built in sound card09:02
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mervteckno i dunno how lols09:03
fignewyou know about the bios?09:03
mervteckyesh09:03
fignewIt should be in there... maybe under intergrated peripherials09:03
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fignew'cuz the sound blaster live is a card alot of people have09:04
fignewso it should work fine...09:04
mervteckso kill onboard audio in bios09:04
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hackdaddywhat's the best slideshow app in Kubuntu?09:05
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fignewmervteck: yes09:06
mervteckkk ill be back in a few09:06
fignewif that option exists09:06
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fignewhackdaddy: kpdf is pretty good09:06
fignewyou have to print out what you want as PDF... then use kpdf to display it :)09:07
hackdaddythanks, fignew09:10
fignew:)09:10
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crackhead_25anyone know how to setup a new printer when cups won't work? ??09:11
fignewcrackhead_25: have you tried the KDE printer tool?09:11
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mervteckand im back!09:11
fignewmervteck: you find it?09:12
crackhead_25fignew: i've tried kcontrol and the system settings, printers09:12
crackhead_25nothing has been working!09:12
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fignewcrackhead_25: in konsole do: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart09:12
mervteckyesh , disabled it and still no sound =\09:12
fignewmervteck: 2 things we can do09:13
sandro__hi all .. im running kubuntu 6.1 and i cant seem to find a "midnight commander" mc .. i tried in adept, aptitude and a blind apt-get install mc .. do i need additional repos to find/get mc ?!09:13
crackhead_25the farthest i've gotten is using kcontrol, peripherals, printers, then switching from cups spooler to lpr spooler, and then trying to do add printer, but then i cant figure out what the uri is for the usb printer. i can find the usb (it's bus 02, dev 04), but i dont know how to tell what the uri is from that..09:13
fignewtest a live CD and see if that works09:13
fignewbut first09:13
crackhead_25fignew: it restarted ok. now what09:13
fignewmervteck: run kmix09:14
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fignewand fiddle with the stuff under switches09:14
crackhead_25now i go to system settings, printers, and i try to open it, and it says "already running in configuration module" or something?09:14
crackhead_25do i have to kill some signals?09:15
mervteckk09:15
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fignewcrackhead_25: when you add printers under the KDE print program, USB printers should show up automatically as addable (sp?)09:15
mervteckyeah still getting no sound =(09:15
mervteckis there any drivers i can download to see if that helps09:16
fignewmervteck: what options are under switches?09:16
fignewmervteck: what type of printer?09:16
fignewno, all drivers built in09:16
mervteckoh wate09:16
mervteck1 sec09:16
davidodoes juk in feisty work for anyone?09:16
fignew!mc | sandro09:16
ubotusandro: mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB09:16
crackhead_25fignew: none show up under the usb ports in the printer setup panel.. though under lsusb, it shows up..09:16
crackhead_25typical hp 350009:16
fignewmc should be right there09:16
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davidoit (juk) doesn't play songs for me while amarok etc works09:17
fignewdoes: /var/log/cups/error_log say anything?09:17
mervteckyeah im not getting anything =\09:17
fignew:(09:17
fignewmervteck: I'd ask in #alsa :)09:17
davidobtw, in general I think feisty is currently already more stable then dapper was on release09:18
fignewthey're the pros!09:18
crackhead_25how do i see if it says anything? what command do i do?09:18
fignewdavido: tell that to the unbootable kernel (-11) I had a day or to ago...09:18
fignewcrackhead_25: cat09:18
davidofignew: mm ok, in my perception at least :)09:18
figneweek! spelling: two :P09:19
fignewtoo late for typing :/09:19
crackhead_25fignew: yeah, there's a lot of error there.. the same error repeated.. ill paste in pastebin..09:19
davidobut got anyone juk working in feisty?09:19
fignewdavido: never used it :(09:19
crackhead_25fignew: http://pastebin.ca/40326309:20
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mervteckno one in the channel is wakin the hell up =\09:20
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fignewmervteck: you gotta give them time09:20
davidook, I prefer it over amarok, because I don't have to use the mouse in juk09:20
SolidSource!mp4 > solidsource09:20
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crackhead_25fignew: what do you think09:21
fignewcrackhead_25: 1 sec09:21
fignewit says that multiple times?09:22
crackhead_25check the pastebin09:22
davidook, I'll try juk in a couple of days again, thankyou, bye09:22
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yopy77y09:22
fignewcrackhead_25: does it just say that once?09:22
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crackhead_25multiple times09:23
crackhead_25http://pastebin.ca/40326309:23
fignewso twice?09:23
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crackhead_25no, it's got a lot of 'em.. more than i copied..09:23
fignewok09:23
crackhead_2550 maybe09:23
crackhead_25all saying the same, as was copied09:24
crackhead_25the first line just repeats fifty times. then it says creating directory or whatever.09:24
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crackhead_25that creating dir line is repeated only twice.09:24
fignewwhat does "ls /var/run/cups" say?09:24
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crackhead_25certs cupsd.pid cups.sock09:25
CarinArrright.. i booted using the cd and could run fsck on the linux drive, however i can't run fsck on the ntfs drive (says fsck.ntfs isn't there or something)09:25
CarinArri fixed grub enough to get rid of the error 1609:26
CarinArrand back to my old menu09:26
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CarinArrbut now it just hangs as soon as i select anything from that menu (apart from the memory test)09:26
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mcrandelloHi, is there any way to get the shutdown or reboot options back in the logout meu after updating to feisty?09:27
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fignewCarinArr: you shouldn't need to mess with NTFS to fix GRUB (unless you're trying to boot into an NTFS drive)09:27
fignewcrackhead_25: 1 sec09:27
crackhead_25fignew: thanks man09:27
fignewwhat does sudo ls /etc09:28
fignewwhoops09:28
fignewwhat does "sudo ls /etc/cups/ssl" say?09:28
crackhead_25server.crt server.key09:29
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sandro__fignew: thank you .. but i still cant find mc :(/ maybe i must add some repositories ?09:29
fignewhow about grep "DefaultAuthType" /etc/cups/cupsd.conf09:30
crackhead_25DefaultAuthType Basic09:30
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fignew!easysource | sandro__09:31
ubotusandro__: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:31
CarinArrfignew: no i know. but i got an error 16 at the grub menu and its description talks about messed up file structures, so someone told me to run fsck on my drives09:31
fignewuse that09:31
sandro__fignew: thanks again!09:31
CarinArrreally don't know what's broken but something is definitely off09:31
fignewCarinArr: that's fine, run it on all your linux drives ;)09:31
CarinArri did09:31
CarinArrand there wasn't any problems09:32
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fignewok09:32
fignewso its working?09:32
CarinArrno;)09:32
CarinArrfsck was fine09:32
CarinArrand the error 16 is gone09:32
CarinArrbut when i boot i get my grub menu, but no matter whether i choose either linux kernel there or the windows install, it just hangs09:33
fignewargh crackhead_25 I'm looking into what the problem could be09:33
crackhead_25fignew: thx man i really appreciate it09:33
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CarinArrjust really pissing me off, i've only had the damn machine for just over a week09:33
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CarinArrwas just about getting it set up properly so i could start doing some actual work09:33
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fignewCarinArr: boot into a livecd09:34
CarinArrokay09:35
CarinArr(already there)09:35
fignewand run grub-install09:35
fignewbut09:35
fignewread up on that09:35
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fignewCarinArr: you can also ask in #grub ... they're the pros ;)09:36
crackhead_25fignew: what are you thinking09:36
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mervteckhey Fig09:37
mervteckSkype works and will run on any audio devices i have hooked up, but noting else will... so somthing up lol09:37
tempsanitycan i somehow make a window 'glued' to my kde desktop? like a terminal that cannot be minimized but its always below other windwos09:37
tempsanity?09:37
fignewcrackhead_25: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/2077 seems to be similar09:38
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fignewtempsanity: right click on the icon in the top left09:38
fignewCarinArr: basically, your grub is hosed and needs to be reinstalled09:39
tempsanityfignew i know that but i dont know the specific settings for that09:39
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fignewohhh, tempsanity you want it to be part of the desktop?09:39
fignewnever done that, though i suspect you'll find something like that in superkaramba09:39
crackhead_25fignew: that person was able to isntall his/her printer. i haven't even been able to get mine "installed". it's recognized with lsusb, but i can't get through the printer setup wizards in the system settings, printers.. and in kcontrol, i dont know how to find out waht the uri of the printer is (do you know how to find out the uri of a usb device??)09:40
tempsanityi just want it to stay under all windows and not be minimized09:40
mervteckk this is weird... sound works on both my headset and soundcard in skype but nothing else09:40
fignewcrackhead_25: is this a pretty fresh install... have you installed samba?... have you done anything weird with cups?09:41
fignewtempsanity: what do you mean not minimized?09:41
fignewmervteck: what other programs are you testing it in?09:41
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ffffuhi i'm installing gtk-gnutella 0.96.3 where i read the README it says09:43
fignewcrackhead_25: I'm at a loss09:43
ffffuRun from the top of the source tree:09:43
ffffu  $ fakeroot debian/rules binary09:43
ffffuand it will build the .deb package for you in the parent directory.09:43
ffffuwhat does it mean?09:43
fignewffffu: just do apt-get install gtk-gnutella09:43
ffffuit says i'm using the ancient version09:44
fignewthat's saying how you MAKE a .deb file09:44
ffffui couldn't get it running09:44
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fignewgnutella itself is ancient09:44
ffffuthe apt-get installed 0.96.109:44
fignewcurrent is?09:44
ffffuthis i downloaded is 0.96.309:44
fignewdoesn't sound like too big of a difference09:44
ffffuwhat's the command to create the deb file?09:44
fignewffffu: apt-get install checkinstall; ./configure; checkinstall09:45
crackhead_25it's pretty fresh. it was working last week. i installed a first printer, an hp officejet k60. then this week, i took that out, it wasn't my printer, and i put in my actual printer, an hp 3500. now i was trying to install it so that i coudl use it. i can't get through the setup screens. from that time to now, i have installed other stuff, but no samba.09:45
fignewcheckinstall will make the .deb file09:45
fignewbut that09:45
fignewisn't really necessary09:45
fignewjust do ./configure; make; sudo make install09:45
fignewcrackhead_25: so you could print stuff earlier?09:46
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crackhead_25fignew: wha tdo you think? what kubuntu are you running? should i update to feisty, and see if that fixes it, or is taht too drastic and probably to cause more problems?09:46
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fignewcrackhead_25: I'm running feisty09:46
crackhead_25yeah, i could print on the hp k60 last week. i have'n ttried printin in the last ew days. i took the k60 out a few days ago. hadn't a printer in until today.09:46
CarinArrshould i be able to run fsck on for example /dev/sda as well as /dev/sda1, 2, 3 etc09:46
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fignewif you do upgrade make sure you back up09:47
fignewCarinArr: I don't believe so09:47
ffffui ran the checkinstall .. where's the deb file now?09:47
fignewffffu: did it finish without errors?09:47
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CarinArrokay, good;)09:47
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fignewcrackhead_25: they were doing some cups fixes in feisty earlier this week09:48
fignewit was broken at one point09:48
mervteckHOT DAMN FIG I GOT MY SOUND BACK!09:48
fignewlol09:48
fignewwhat the heck was the problem?09:48
ffffumake: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.09:48
ffffu****  Installation failed. Aborting package creation.09:48
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fignewffffu: just do the ./configure; make;make install09:49
fignewactually09:49
hi_im_newHi all.... At this moment, I have a working kubuntu (which ive used every day for months, and NEVER used windows) and an expired copy of WINDOWS VISTA on another partition.  I finally need to reinstall a copy of XP over that useless VISTA partition, but at the end of it, it will no longer go to GRUB manager and boot directly into XP.  How am I supposed to fix this?09:49
fignewffffu: did you run configure first?09:49
ffffui ran ./Configure -d09:49
ffffuthere's a part it ask my compiler (yacc) and i have to key in yacc09:49
ffffuWhich compiler compiler (yacc) shall I use?   yacc09:50
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ffffuERROR: Cannot compile against GLib.09:50
ffffuERROR: Cannot compile against Gtk+.09:50
crackhead_25fignew: should i totally upgrade to feisty? is that going to ruin all of my current program isntalls and settings and everything??09:50
fignewok ffffu; just do the make make install :/09:50
fignewwait09:50
ffffuwhen i make09:50
mervteckhey Fig ya know what happened with my sound09:50
ffffumake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.09:50
fignewcrackhead_25: I'd wait09:50
fignewffffu: 1 sec09:50
crackhead_25ha k09:50
crackhead_25so what do you think about the printing?? am i just screwed??09:51
ffffu!yacc09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yacc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:51
fignewcrackhead_25: you could ask in #cups09:51
fignewnot sure how helpful they'd be though09:51
mervteckmy cat being the fatass he is ripped the connection in the back of my sub so no sound would come through09:51
fignew##cups actually09:51
fignewmervteck: lol :P09:51
mervtecki found a fatty clump of cathair where the plug should be lmao09:52
fignewbad kitty!09:52
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mervtecknow i gotta figure out what that moldy taco smell is...09:52
crackhead_25crazy problem.. i had a hpk60 installed last week, it worked fine. then i had no printer the last five days. now i plugge din a new printer, hp3500, and i was trying to install it. i can't get through the setup programs, though. system settings, printers, admin mode, and it hangs. kcontrol, periph, printers, admin mode, add printer, and if spooler is cups, it hangs.. (it goes through to the next step with lpr as spooler, but i dont09:53
crackhead_25know how to find out what the printer's uri is.. i can see it in lsusb (bus 02, dev 04), but that's about all i know..) ) can anyone help?? no one in kubuntu channel could figure it out..09:53
ffffufignew: i think i got it.. i need to install libglib1.2-dev and libgtk1.2-dev09:53
crackhead_25oops, sorry.. that was supposed to go the cups channel09:53
ffffunow the configure make make install worked09:53
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ffffu!fakeroot09:53
ubotufakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 376 kB09:53
fignewffffu: installing auto-apt09:54
fignewand running sudo auto-apt run ./configure09:54
fignewwill automatically download the required packages :)09:54
ffffuwhat do use to download mp3s? gnutella right?09:54
ffffu!gnutella09:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
mervteckhey fig wanna see if we can get my cadega working? =)09:54
ffffuohhh auto-apt.. ok09:55
crackhead_25fignew: how do i find out what the uri of a device is??09:55
ffffu!limewire09:55
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.09:55
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ffffu!mp309:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:55
ffffudo u use gtk-gnutella or limewire to d/l mp3?09:55
fignewcrackhead_25: not sure, you usu. don't need to09:55
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fignewgtk-gnutella over the adware called limewire09:56
fignewmervteck: no thanks ;)09:56
fignewI'm gonna leave now :(09:56
ffffuso what i'm compiliing now is limewire?09:56
mervtecklmao xD well thanks for helpin meh!09:56
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fignewffffu: no, you're compiling gtk-gnutella09:57
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fignewboth use the same network (gnutella)09:57
fignewmervteck: it should be pretty straight foward (you are using the .deb right?09:57
ffffuic..i used gtk-gnutella before..not limewire09:57
ffffuis it of a better interface?09:57
fignewbetter software09:57
mervteckwell... kinda? lol09:58
fignewg2g09:58
mervtecki unpacked the tgz09:58
ffffuthanks09:58
mervteckhave a good nite fig09:58
ffffu!FrostWire09:58
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:58
rtsghii09:58
rtsgSetting up kubuntu-artwork-usplash (7.04-34ubuntu1) ...09:58
rtsgupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-11-38609:58
rtsgW: udev hook script requires at least kernel version 2.6.1909:58
rtsgW: not generating requested initramfs for kernel 2.6.17-11-38609:58
rtsgwhat should i do09:58
rtsgi'm sure if i'm reboot my pc09:58
rtsgit will failed09:59
ffffuFrostwire or limewire better?09:59
crackhead_25 anyone know how to find the uri of a device??09:59
mervteckwhy dont you just torrent   ffffu10:00
ffffumervteck: for some small mp3s i would search in gnutella..10:00
ffffufor videos..bittorrent10:00
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mervteck=P10:01
mervtecki just torrent the full cd then delete what i dont what10:02
ffffuhow do u search for the cd?10:02
ffffuwhat u use for bittorrent?10:02
mervteckKtorrent came with my os, otherwise i do Asurus10:02
mervteckthen i jsut search the name of the band or whatever10:02
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ffffuu can search in Ktorrent?10:03
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mervteckjsut go to sites like www.torrentspy.com www.thepiratebay.org www.btjunkie.com10:04
CarinArrodd10:05
CarinArrsecond time i rewrote grub it seems to have worked10:05
mhkHow do i install OOO2.1 on Edgy?10:05
mhk(of course manually)10:05
CarinArrslightly troubles me that this would happen after less than two weeks of using the machine tho10:05
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bentob0xhow do to a "Xfree86 -probeonly" on kubuntu?10:09
bentob0xit's not Xfree86 I think10:09
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cpk1somehow I made my kdocker go bye bye how do you restart/start it?10:11
cpk1no really guys, I miss it10:13
T3hWiz0rdanyone got any ideas why my usb suddenly stopped working on linux and lsusb just freezes?10:13
utnubukwith 3 questions up i'm reluctant to post my own :P10:14
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xardiashi10:15
sandro__some howto (in kde my sound is good, in quake3 (the only game i play) there is no sound) tells me to " In KDE you can open KDE Control Center -> Sound -> Sound Server -> uncheck "Start aRts soundserver at KDE startup", and restart" .. actually i cant even find my control center .. all i find is "System Settings / Sound System" but there is no way to change what todo tells .. any ideas for me ?!10:15
xardiassandro__: check the "start" menu.. there is a System Settings Program where you can config the Sound Server10:16
xardias(sorry, its called Sound System in there)10:16
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xardiasi would unchec the "enable sound system" button10:17
sandro__xardias:  yes i found that .. but i cant seem to find "start soundserver at kde startup" checkbox .. i could enter a "idle time" when kde releases exclusive sound "lock" .. but if i change time there i fall into endless dialog "restarting sound system"10:17
xardiashm.. have you tried to simply disable the sound system while playing quake?10:18
sandro__no10:18
sandro__how would i do that ? :)10:18
xardiassandro__: its the first checkbox in the config menu10:19
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sandro__ok will try right away thanks!10:19
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xardiascan someone tell me how where i can define globally available variables? i want to export JAVA_HOME to get eclipse running.10:20
xardias.bashrc does not work for programs beeing invoked by KDE..10:20
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sandro__funny enough i disabled the sound .. my xmms still plays sound quake still silent :)10:26
xardiassandro__: have you closed xmms while playing quake?10:26
mustasjI can't find any k3b 1.0 deb files for edgy? anyane?10:26
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sandro__yes10:27
sandro__you think maybe software blocking ? so maybe "Konversation" blocks for notifys?!10:28
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xardiashm. maye try typing "artsshell suspend" into a console...10:29
VSpikeIs there repository strangeness going on?10:29
xardiasif that does not help try hm. "artsshell terminate"10:29
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VSpikeAdept just upgraded digikam and digikam plugins, removed kipi-plugins and kubuntu-desktop10:30
VSpikeNow if I go into aptitude it says digikam is broken, and it wants to downgrade digikam and digikamimageplugins, and install kipi-plugins and kubuntu-desktop10:30
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sandro__ok arts is down .. still no sound .. what i found is artsdsp with option --mmap (maps memory e.g. for quake) i think i should maybe google that direction10:33
cpk1once i did some stuff with adept and then used aptitude and aptitude went apeshit on me. I just let aptitude do all its crazy ideas anyways and somehow it worked out10:33
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psyke83hi, can someone tell me what package is responsible for generating /etc/hosts? I want to file a bug on launchpad and need to know what package to file against10:38
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_BS_Trying to upgrade 6.06 to 6.1, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades. Died due to conflict between x11-common and xli. imgvtopgm depends upon xli. I'm going in circles here - nothing will move. How do I get rid of imgvtopgm, only, without involving an x11-common upgrade which fails due to the presence of xli. Help please.10:41
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mervteck6.1 PWNS!10:43
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valued_customerI've got a configuration problem with Kubuntu 6.10 - "Disk & Filesystems" isn't working. Any takers?10:54
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valued_customerBye, then.10:55
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crackhead_25anyone know a good kubuntu replacement for macromedia dreamweaver ??10:56
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crackhead_25anyone know a good kubuntu replacement for macromedia dreamweaver ??10:57
bentob0xvim?10:57
bentob0x^^10:57
crackhead_25what's vim?10:57
bentob0xno try wine10:57
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crackhead_25isn't that a ide for software development?10:57
bentob0xand then run your dreamweaver10:57
crackhead_25do i have to isntall dreamweaver on wine?10:58
bentob0xvim is a text editor but it's not WYSIWYG10:58
bentob0xyep10:58
apokryphos!web10:58
crackhead_25how do i do that? i've never really used wine before10:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about web - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:58
apokryphos!editor10:58
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code10:58
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ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com10:58
bentob0xif you install wine first you can then run your setup via wine "path\to\dreamweaver\install.exe"10:58
crackhead_25i'll try it..10:59
bentob0xhave a look at winehq.com10:59
bentob0xor10:59
xtavaresx_what about an linux equivalent to rapidweaver? anyone?10:59
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bentob0xjust download it via your packages manager10:59
mervteckhey can anyone tell me how to change the resolution of a steam game b4 launching it? it goed blackscreen when i change resolution once in game11:00
xtavaresx_!steam11:00
ubotuSteam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/11:00
_BS_Trying to upgrade 6.06 to 6.1, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades. Died due to conflict between x11-common and xli. imgvtopgm depends upon xli. I'm going in circles here - nothing will move. How do I get rid of imgvtopgm, only, without involving an x11-common upgrade which fails due to the presence of xli. Help please.11:00
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waylandbill_BS_: you could remove xli and put it back in later.11:03
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utnubukcan somebody tell me about how amarok works with last.fm?11:04
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rahabhi there11:06
_BS_waylandbill - I'm trying. I'll get rid of both, but it won't let me. It feels like it's trying to do x11-common upgrade 1st. At this point I just want to force the removal of the darn thing, but don't know how. I've tried apt-get -f install, but get:11:06
_BS_Reading package lists... Done11:06
_BS_Building dependency tree... Done11:06
_BS_You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:11:06
_BS_The following packages have unmet dependencies:11:06
_BS_  libxdmcp6: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is to be installed11:06
_BS_  xserver-xorg-core: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is to be installed11:06
_BS_E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).11:06
rahabis anyone familiar with the limitations of filesystmes in common unices ?11:06
apokryphosrahab: wikipedia is11:07
_BS_Sorry, that should have been: apt-get remove xli imgvtopgm11:08
rahabapokryphos: including some real numbers?11:08
waylandbill_BS_: did you do apt-get -f install?11:08
apokryphosrahab: yes11:08
rahabapokryphos: perfect. thanx11:09
_BS_waylandbill - Yes, no help. apt-get -f install:11:10
_BS_Reading package lists... Done11:10
_BS_Building dependency tree... Done11:11
_BS_Correcting dependencies... Done11:11
_BS_The following extra packages will be installed:11:11
_BS_  x11-common11:11
_BS_The following packages will be upgraded:11:11
waylandbill!pastebin11:11
_BS_  x11-common11:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:11
_BS_1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1083 not upgraded.11:11
_BS_47 not fully installed or removed.11:11
_BS_Need to get 0B/291kB of archives.11:11
_BS_After unpacking, 418kB of additional disk space will be used.11:11
_BS_Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y11:11
_BS_Preconfiguring packages ...11:11
_BS_(Reading database ... 187779 files and directories currently installed.)11:11
_BS_Preparing to replace x11-common 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (using .../x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb) ...11:11
_BS_Unpacking replacement x11-common ...11:11
_BS_dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb (--unpack):11:11
_BS_ trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package xli11:11
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_BS_Errors were encountered while processing:11:11
_BS_ /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb11:11
_BS_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:11
_BS_waylandbill - thanks. Define 'large' please?11:11
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waylandbill_BS_: next time use a pastebin, but you need to add --force-overwrite to that command line11:11
waylandbill_BS_: use judgement. A line or a few is okay. The entire output of an apt-get command is large. :-)11:12
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waylandbill_BS_: apt-get -f install --force-overwrite   should get you moving along11:13
mervtecklet it be known! I CRASHED LINUX! xD11:13
waylandbillmervteck: oh, you did?11:13
mervteckaye, with emulated steam =P11:14
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|GaiJin|the memtes86+.bin file located in the /boot dir on my harddrive.. is it a image file??11:15
_BS_waylandbill: 'apt-get --force-overwrite remove xli imgvtopgm' not understood. Do you mean --force-yes?11:15
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waylandbill_BS_: force yes will do it. I must've been thinking dpkg switch.11:17
waylandbill_BS_: not to the remove though11:17
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eilker!APF11:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:17
eilker!apf11:18
_BS_waylandbill: And it's any wonder _I_ get bewildered by all the package managers, utilities, commands, ...11:18
waylandbill_BS_: you can't do the remove now, because the package manager is still in the middle of the last thing that failed.11:18
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cacghi11:19
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waylandbill_BS_: apt-get -f install --force-yes  . don't rely on force yes though as it can be dangerous. We are only do it to get that one package to overwrite which is okay. :-)11:20
_BS_waylandbill: This is nuts. I can't complete what it's in the middle of because of the dependancy. I can't remove the dependancy because it's in the middle of something else. AND, because it's an upgrade ... I don't dare reboot.11:20
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_BS_waylandbill: Oh yeah, I get that. Think dll hell.11:20
waylandbill_BS_: you have aptitude installed?11:21
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_BS_waylandbill: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11159/. Don't think so, let me check. Got synaptic, adept, kpackage, apt, ... hold on11:22
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_BS_waylandbill: Yep, it's there. Came along for the ride some time or another.11:23
waylandbill_BS_: now you see why universe is unsupported.11:23
waylandbill_BS_: ok. well it looks like we need to use dpkg directly anyway.11:23
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_BS_waylandbill: <sigh> Good point. Searching web for 'x11-common xli' brought up Debian bug reports that the dependencies are wrong. Shouldn't be able to get here sort of thing. But NO - they couldn't show the sequence of commands to work through it now could they!!!11:25
waylandbill_BS_: try: dpkg -f install --force-overwrite11:25
_BS_waylandbill: Try again please?11:26
_BS_dpkg -f install --force-overwrite11:26
_BS_dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `install': No such file or directory11:26
waylandbilldpkg -i --force-overwrite x11-common11:27
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waylandbillwait a sec. that's not right11:28
alomelohi anybody can tell me how to install transkode11:28
waylandbill_BS_: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common   <-- put the full filename of the x11-common package11:28
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waylandbillalomelo: is that to rip dvd's?11:29
alomelono to change encoding of audio files11:29
waylandbillalomelo: I was thinking something else then. :-)11:30
alomeloi think that one for dvds is transcode. am not sure11:30
waylandbillalomelo: where does one acquire transkode then?11:34
alomeloacquire? from a repository  i suppose11:34
_BS_waylandbill: What a mouthful. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11160/11:34
waylandbillit's not in the ubuntu repositories. I mean is there a project website? how did you know it exists.11:34
_BS_/var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb11:34
alomeloi used it at another distro based on kde11:34
alomeloit seems to stay in packages of ubuntu at ubuntus website11:34
waylandbill_BS_: looks like it succeeded.11:34
alomeloIt stays at kde-app web site too11:34
waylandbill!info transcode11:34
ubotutranscode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2293 kB, installed size 5424 kB11:34
waylandbillalomelo: that look like it?11:34
alomelomay be that one is the one for video11:34
waylandbillthere's no transkode11:35
waylandbill!info transkode11:35
ubotuPackage transkode does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas11:35
waylandbillalomelo: they have a sourceforge project site for it though11:36
alomelook ubotu i ll try them11:36
alomeloi know the sourceforge site but i dont remember if they have a .deb file11:36
waylandbillalomelo: no. you're going to have to build it11:36
alomeloi dont want to ttry with tar.gzs11:36
waylandbill!build11:37
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:37
waylandbillalomelo: it's nothing as long as you have the dependencies11:37
waylandbill!b-e11:37
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:37
_BS_waylandbill: Yep - THANK YOU. Did apt-get -f install again, did stuff, and again, was clean. Synaptic clean. Back to 'update-manager -c'. Hopefully it'll all go clean, but I doubt it. Thanks again. I may be back!11:37
alomeloi guess but whats the aim of repos?11:37
waylandbillalomelo: just because a project exists doesn't mean it should be in the repositories.11:38
alomeloi know waylandbill11:38
alomeloam ust trying to use repos11:39
waylandbillalomelo: if it is specialized in use, has security flaws, or fatal bugs, or just the MOTU haven't gotten around to putting it there, it won't be there. :-)11:39
alomeloand forget about the dependencies, compilation etc11:39
waylandbill!motu11:39
ubotumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU11:39
waylandbillalomelo: put a request for it to the motu then11:39
Jucato#ubuntu-motu11:39
alomeloyea that may be my way11:39
alomeloanother question11:40
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waylandbillmorning Jucato (afternoon for you though probably)11:40
Jucatoevening actually :)11:40
alomeloadept manager was upgrdaing some packages11:40
alomeloand it was frozen at 83%11:41
alomeloi closed the program11:41
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waylandbillalomelo: rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock11:41
alomelobut a process is still using the sources.list file11:41
alomelothen what about the upgrade?11:41
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waylandbillalomelo: adept doesn't tell where the lockfile is contained as apt-get does. It woul make sense if it did I guess. :-)11:42
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waylandbillalomelo: you should then be able to repeat the process.11:42
alomelolets try11:43
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alomeloadept is not openning11:44
waylandbilldid it give an error?11:44
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alomelono it didnt. i did sudo aptitude before and it complained that i must do dpkg --configure -a11:45
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ubotualomelo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:45
waylandbillthx Jucato. I can't remember all of ubotu's factoid triggers. :-)11:46
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Jucatoneither can I... I just happen to know some :P11:46
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SGLHi11:46
alomelodebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process11:46
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alomelothere are 3 adept processes running: adept_notifier,adept_updater and kdesu -u root -c kdesu adept_manager11:49
alomelomay it be because of these 3 procs/11:49
Jucato(you can leave adept_notifier alone)11:49
alomeloI killed them all and tried sudo dpkg --conf.... and it worked11:51
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alomelobut i cant still open adept it freezes11:53
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Vincent_k!install12:01
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues12:01
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hwOT: How can I adjust the mouse scroll wheel on adobe acrobat reader?12:01
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eilker!Ardour12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
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SGLHello12:21
SGLHow does one `jail` a user to his or her home-directory?12:22
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thomax_!grub > thomax_12:31
jarleSGL: I think chroot will do the trick...12:31
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shaffoxso, you see really nice  desktops with kubuntu, how can you do that ? got any sites with tutorials or something12:41
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bubblenutHi, I'm using KDE in Ubuntu (by installing Ubuntu and then kde) but fonts are really messed up in KDE12:47
korielspell checking doesn't work it doesn't detect any wrong words12:47
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bubblenutIs there any other fonts package I can install to help things?12:49
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eilker!ethereal12:53
ubotuethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB12:53
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PhinnFort!ksniffer12:54
ubotuksniffer: network sniffing application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 114 kB, installed size 708 kB12:54
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Vincent_kI on an ssh session to my server and tryed to wgetsomething. how do I abort wget, it just times out and retries?12:55
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eilker!ardour12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
PhinnFort!killall12:55
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eilker!NoteEdit12:56
ubotunoteedit: KDE Music Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.1-2 (edgy), package size 841 kB, installed size 2492 kB12:57
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alomelohi i get this "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: wma9dmod.dll" when trying to convert wma to mp312:59
VSpikeAnyone know when the 1.0 of k3b is going to hit the edgy repos?12:59
alomeloby using mplayer and lame12:59
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mustasjVSpike: I just asked, no answer... Let me know if you find a deb01:00
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bubblenut!font01:07
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer01:07
mcquaidi have issues with nsplugins using high cpu01:08
bubblenut!Multiverse01:08
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:08
VSpikemustasj: Thanks .. I will01:08
mcquaidi know it's for netscape plugins but for what exactly, flash?01:08
VSpikeMaybe I should learn how to make one :/01:09
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bubblenut!font01:10
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer01:10
bubblenut!Multiverse01:10
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:10
PhinnFort!java01:11
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.01:11
bubblenut!mplayer01:13
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs01:13
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N6REJmorning all, I'm doing something really wrong cause I can't share my hp laserjet with my xp machine via samba  Can anyone help.01:14
N6REJI've done this before, I'm just missing something.01:14
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bubblenutAnyone know why fonts may be messed up in KDE but not in Gnome?01:21
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odwrotniehi01:23
odwrotnieplease help me01:23
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odwrotniei vave to install minimal required kde system01:23
odwrotniewhat do i have to install?01:24
odwrotniei mean by apt-get01:24
N6REJodwrotnie: for a desktop or as a server?01:24
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odwrotnieN6REJ: desktop01:24
alomeloapt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:24
odwrotnieN6REJ: but without anything additional like openoffice01:24
odwrotniekubuntu-desktop is to much01:25
Jucatoodwrotnie: kde-core01:25
N6REJodwrotnie: you can always take OO out aftwards01:25
N6REJJucato: core won't install X will it?01:25
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N6REJ!kde-core01:25
ubotukde-core: the K Desktop Environment core modules. In component main, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB01:25
odwrotnieN6REJ: but its installing amarok, k3b, etc, i dont need them, mayby You tell how to install minimal kde for server ;)01:26
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N6REJodwrotnie: let me find the page01:26
Jucatoodwrotnie, N6REJ: http://jucato.org/kde/kde-core.html or http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core01:26
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alomelokde for server is not necessary01:26
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N6REJJucato: nice!01:27
N6REJalomelo: I agree01:27
odwrotnieN6REJ: thanks01:27
JucatoGUI for server is not necessary :D01:27
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N6REJalomelo: I have it for one reason only, and that is for the few things that I don't know how to do for system config from the CLI, but I installed it module by module.  Not as meta packages.01:28
mcquaidit seems for me numerous  pages with flash ads can make nsplugins cpu usage skyrocket01:28
mcquaidi don't want to block flash entirely though, is there a way to simulate clicktoflash like flashblock?01:29
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thoreauputicmcquaid: welcome to flash - it's a hog01:29
odwrotnieN6REJ: what packages have you installed on server? kde-core?01:29
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mcquaidthoreauputic: flash has been pretty bad in the past, but flash 9 is pretty good in firefox at least01:29
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N6REJodwrotnie: the list is long, but basically you need X and kde-core and kubuntu-default-settings.  let me find the page... Jacato gave a good one.01:30
mcquaidso it's probably some nsplugins issue who knows01:30
thoreauputicmcquaid: it;s better - bu some sites just use so much flash that the CPU goes way up anyway01:30
thoreauputicmcquaid: I use flashblock and firefox01:30
N6REJodwrotnie: here you go https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE01:30
mcquaidyes i use flashblock and ff as well, just giving konqueror a spin01:31
N6REJodwrotnie: read CAREFULLY01:31
mcquaidand it's pretty good. but this is kind of a showstopper01:31
mcquaidas i mentioned don't want to filter *.swf entirely01:31
N6REJwho wants to help me get my printer shared?01:31
mcquaidi'd like to be able to select the odd flash file when i want01:31
odwrotnieN6REJ: ok, tahank You!01:31
N6REJodwrotnie: np01:31
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N6REJhmmmm, I can't access anything through samba :(01:33
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JuJuBeeIs there a way to disable the trackpad on my laptop?  I always use a connected mouse (USB).01:35
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bubblenutHi, does anyone know how I can change my screen resolution in KDE 3.5? I can't find a way of doing it through the control center.01:36
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JucatoSystem Settings -> Monitor & Display01:36
bentob0xI have locked files on my desktop that I can't display via ls  -al01:37
bentob0xhow can I get rid of them01:37
bentob0xor unlock them?01:37
mcquaidthoreauputic: i didn't notice, you can load plugins on demand, seems fine for flash01:37
thoreauputicmcquaid: ah, nice01:37
N6REJwhen your doing netmasking /32 is the entire class "c" right?01:38
bubblenutJucato: Is that supposed to be in Control Center?01:38
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Jucatobubblenut: are you using System Settings or KControl? in KControl it would be under Peripherals -> Display01:39
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bubblenutJucato: I'm using KDE Control Center but I don't have a Display section under Peripherals, where do I find System Settings01:40
bubblenutJucato: I'm on a laptop here if that makes a difference01:40
mastermindHEY GUYS ...01:41
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Jucatobubblenut: shouldn't make a difference... is it a default installation of Kubuntu?01:41
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bubblenutJucato: No, I installed Ubuntu and then from there installed KDE01:41
Jucatobubblenut: what did you install? kde or kubuntu-desktop?01:42
mastermindis there any software available for download meter like tat of windows?????01:42
BluesKajHowdy All :)01:42
bubblenutJucato: kde, I'll give kde-desktop a go01:42
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Jucatobubblenut: kubuntu-desktop will install kubuntu-specific packages and settings01:43
Jucatobubblenut: if you just need the Monitor & Display module, try to install the kde-guidance package01:43
mastermindis there someone to help me out..01:43
bubblenutJucato: Thanks, I'm just downloading it all now.01:44
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mastermindanyone out there..01:45
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Jucatomastermind: yes. but I don't know what a download meter does01:46
mastermindjucato, a download meter tells how much u have downloaded from the net..01:47
bobdhicksI have installed kubuntu. Having trouble with administrator priviliges. Can someone help?01:47
BluesKajhey Jucato, Ktorrent no longer links up do the download manager in FF ...any idea how to fix it ?01:47
Jucatomastermind: ah a network monitor?01:48
mastermindit gives u complete data about how much u download fron the net..01:48
Jucatoknetstats or knemo I think01:48
JucatoBluesKaj: er.. come again?01:48
mastermindyeah...similarly..01:48
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Jucatomastermind: I just gave you 2 apps :)01:49
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mastermindjucato: i dont get u ??01:49
Jucato<Jucato> knetstats or knemo I think01:49
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Ace2016i use knemo01:50
Ace2016it shows i download too much01:50
mastermindwhere do i download these applications from i.e knestats or knemo01:51
Ace2016mastermind: you can do it in synaptic01:51
Jucato!info knetstats01:51
ubotuknetstats: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 596 kB01:51
BluesKajJucato, when launching a torrent file on the net the dialog no longer automatically links to ktorrent01:51
JucatoAce2016: you're on #kubuntu :)01:51
JuJuBeeAnybody know how to disable the trackpad on a laptop?01:51
JuJuBeeI dont see the setting.01:51
Ace2016Jucato: i know i just realised, but i like synaptic01:51
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JucatoAce2016: yes, but it invites another possible question like "what is synaptic" or "how do I install it". just saving you that trouble :D01:52
Ace2016in konsole, "sudo apt-get install synaptic", then launch it using "kdesu synaptic", then you can search for it01:52
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Ace2016thats how you install it, and this is synaptic: http://www.guiaubuntupt.org/wiki/images/instalar_tudo/Synaptic.png01:53
Jucatoheh :)01:53
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JucatoBluesKaj: Firefox has its own File Associations I think01:54
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Ace2016or you could try, apt-cache search knemo, find the right package and sudo apt-get install it01:54
Ace2016but thats no fun01:54
Jucato:)01:54
JucatoBluesKaj: I'm not a Firefox user, so I'm not sure01:54
BluesKajok Jucato , I'll check that out01:54
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mastermindubotu:where do i find these things ..network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 596 kB01:57
Jucatomastermind: ubotu is a bot01:58
Jucatomastermind: in the repositories. use Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager01:58
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Ryiel!hu01:59
ubotuMagyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall01:59
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N6REJsamba help anyone?02:00
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bobdhicksHelp. When I click on Administrator Priviliges, it asks for a password. It rejects the password I used when I installed. That is the only one I entered. I just installed Kubuntu. I can't do anything without the password.02:03
Ace2016you can either set the root password, or edit the sudoers file so that you never have to use a password for doing stuff again02:04
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thoreauputicAce2016: sudo without a password is a Bad Idea (tm)02:05
Ace2016thoreauputic: i know but it sucks to keep typing in my password02:05
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bobdhicksThank you. Can you give me a quick explanation as to how do set the root password or edit the sudoers file?02:05
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Ace2016sudo passwd root02:06
Ace2016then type in the root password you want to set02:06
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Ace2016then use that password  in kcontrol02:06
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bobdhicksThanks for the help Ace2016.02:08
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Ace2016hey i have an idea, maybe i should change my password to ~, then i could do, sudo su, press enter and then type ~02:09
Ace2016no one would think my password is only one character long02:10
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faidillingerhi there02:11
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faidillingerhey could someone please enlight me on how to get amarok (xine engine) working again. see my computer crashed, and when i rebooted, i could no longer play any mp3 file. amarok crashes when i try to play an mp3 file. i get a xine demux or whatever message... could someone please gimme some help02:14
faidillingeri cant stay on the computer when there's no music playing02:15
faidillingeri can play everything with vlc02:15
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RaMPaGealguien k able espaol??02:17
RaMPaGea ver si me puede exar un cable02:17
Jucato!es | RaMPaGe02:17
ubotuRaMPaGe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:17
RaMPaGeok gracias02:17
faidillinger!fr | RaMPaGe02:17
ubotuRaMPaGe: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:17
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Jucatofaidillinger: he's speaking in spanish02:17
faidillingerlol i know02:18
faidillingeri was just plaing with it02:18
faidillingerplaying02:18
Jucatodon't02:18
faidillinger...02:18
linkI'm going to follow the guide in Ubuntu Forum's compiz/beryl customizatation sticky.  But one of the steps describes enableing the desktop effects through the gnome system menu.  Does anyone know how to enable the desktop effects through the KDE menu?02:19
Jucatodon't play w/ the bot (in here). and don't play with it on somebody else02:19
SheaTaraEvery time I open up the printer configurator, it asks me for a password, but it does not accept any password I know of, and it lets me configure the printer anyway. How do I get rid of it?!02:19
senwei_!fr | RaMPaGe02:19
ubotuRaMPaGe: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:19
Jucatosenwei_: don't play w/ the bot (in here). and don't play with it on somebody else02:20
senwei_ok02:20
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N6REJ!samba02:21
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:21
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faidillingerhey could someone please enlight me on how to get amarok (xine engine) working again. see my computer crashed, and when i rebooted, i could no longer play any mp3 file. amarok crashes when i try to play an mp3 file. i get a xine demux or whatever message... could someone please gimme some help02:26
xushiare there any documentations on how to setup an svn server in kubuntu ?02:27
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senwei_faidillinger:why don't you try audacious?02:27
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Jucatofaidillinger: just a hunch,try moving the ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc file and try running it again02:29
bubblenutI have installed kubuntu-desktop and, if anything, my fonts are even more messed up now than they were02:29
BluesKajbubblenut, sys/settings/ appearance/fonts02:31
faidillingersenwei: because for the sake of it, I, for one time, want to get my problem resolved instead of switching for a software that i do not know02:31
xardiasxushi: there are generic instructions for linux in the subversion book (see subversion homepage)02:33
xushita02:33
senwei_faidillinger:because i use the audacious .....yeah you can try to get it resolved02:34
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BluesKajJucato , the dialog asks which file to "open with" , so I searched for and then browsed to /usr/bin/ktorrent ... it works ...for future info :)02:39
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Jucatoah so not the Firefox dialog box? but KDE's?02:40
faidillingerJucato you know you can suck on my dick all day if yoou want to02:41
Jucato!language | faidillinger02:41
ubotufaidillinger: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:41
faidillingerlol02:41
kaoticevilgrrrrrrr......... @#$&@ permissions!02:42
faidillingerjust kiddin m802:42
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VSpikemmm I now have a big mug full of columbian medellin supremo and I'm very happy02:47
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BluesKajyes Jucato in KDE02:50
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JucatoBluesKaj: ah in that case Konqueror -> Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations02:50
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progekanyone here ever use recordmydesktop?02:58
psyko_freehi02:59
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r3factoredanyone know of an open-source linux-based macromedia flash-compatible creator?03:01
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VSpikethis is funny: http://www.linuxpersonas.com/03:04
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kaoticevilhas anyone actually gotten the .smbcredentials file to work properly?03:05
blue_how do i get the pane down the side of Konversation that shows all my servers?03:05
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kaoticevili keep getting an error that the file cant be opened03:05
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Ace2016Hi all03:08
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PhinnFort!azureus03:10
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo03:10
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PhinnFortwhat would happen if libstdc++5 got uninstalled?03:12
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PhinnFort!libstdc++503:13
ubotulibstdc++5: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-13ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 289 kB, installed size 852 kB03:13
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xardiasblue_: settings->interface->tabs->position=bottom03:15
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ubuntu__8grup03:16
ubuntu__!grup03:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:17
ubuntu__!grub03:17
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:17
ubuntu__>nick Marbug03:17
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r3factoredanyone know of an open-source linux-based macromedia flash-compatible creator?03:19
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xushiis it just me or is apache configured one directory above for /var/www/ ?03:21
xushiit should be /var/www/apache-default, but it's /var/www/ only. If you go to http://localhost03:22
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lenscape_!wine03:23
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:23
lenscape_what's with the Wine non-update?03:23
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faidillingerhello03:24
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faidillingerCould one say to me how to install second life on KUBUNTU03:25
faidillingerhoho03:25
VSpikefaidillinger: it's pretty easy I think03:26
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VSpikeYou download the source tarball03:27
Jucatofaidillinger: you don't need to "install" it03:27
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VSpikefaidillinger: you unpack the tarball, cd into the directory, and run "./secondlife"03:29
ubuntu_!grub03:29
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:29
faidillingerwhat03:29
faidillinger??????03:29
faidillingerplease03:29
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ubuntu_can someone help me with grub?03:34
VSpikefaidillinger: "wget http://secondlife.com/downloads/viewer/SecondLife_i686_1_13_3_2.tar.bz2 && tar -xvjf SecondLife_i686_1_13_3_2.tar.bz2 && cd SecondLife_i686_1_13_3_2 && ./secondlife"03:34
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ubuntu_I trie to reinstall it but I can4t do it, I always get errors :s03:35
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BluesKaj!grub03:35
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:35
gioacchinohello03:35
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gioacchino!amarok03:36
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok03:36
gioacchinohow to set amarok with timidity ?03:36
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faidillingerVSPIKE I DID IT BUT what i do after it03:37
VSpikefaidillinger: you ran that command? I dunno... it's still downloading it on mine so I dunno if I got it right yet :)03:38
VSpikeThe joys of 512k broadband.  Still, it's better than dialup03:38
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M_Fatihhi everybody03:44
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faidillingerhi03:44
lontrahi M_Fatih03:44
lontrahi faidillinger03:44
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M_Fatihi'm using editor quanta for my php files, i want to work in one quanta window. but when i try to open php file, quanta opens all php files in different windows.. and when i'm working there is too many window duplicates, how can i set quanta for open files in older quanta window? (sorry for bad english..)03:46
VSpikefaidillinger: It works for me03:46
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faidillingernot me03:47
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faidillingerWhat did you do03:47
VSpikeI ran that command line I gave you above03:47
lontraM_Fatih: maybe you can configure this in the preferences menu?03:47
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faidillingerok03:48
lontraM_Fatih: there's probably an option to have a new instance opened as a tab?03:48
lontrathough i've never used quanta :)03:48
lontrai use vi or nano for all my editing03:48
M_Fatihlontra: no, there isn't any option in preference window.. i look everyvhere but i can't find the option :(03:48
VSpikefaidillinger: did you already download the file?03:48
lontraM_Fatih: you probably need to edit a file or something then...could you use split windows?03:50
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lontraM_Fatih: http://lists.kde.org/?l=quanta&m=113519864016810&w=203:50
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lontramaybe that helps?03:51
M_Fatihhmm i'm looking03:51
filemoverhi Ive deleted some stuff i shouldnt have doing something really simple and Ive lost apt and all the fonts for firefox save dialogue can anyone help03:51
lontrafilemover: you lost apt?  do you have apt-get in the terminal?03:52
filemoverno03:52
filemoverlost it altogether03:52
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filemoverlol03:52
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lontrafilemover: what did you do?  are you sure?  does synaptic or adept work?03:53
filemoverthey do work but it is strange03:53
filemoverill just get the message sorry for being so vague03:54
lontrafilemover: do you type 'sudo apt-get install blah blah'03:54
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lontrafilemover: how about a screenshot03:54
filemoverok03:54
filemoveru got a pste bin03:54
filemoverE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2 No such file or directory)03:54
filemoverE: Unable to lock the list directory03:54
lontrafilemover: ah..03:54
filemover:)03:54
lontrafilemover: you need to kill adept-updater probably :)03:55
filemoverok03:55
Jucato!adeptfix | filemover03:55
ubotufilemover: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:55
filemoverso ps -A grep03:55
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lontrafilemover: type top in a terminal and look for adept things and then kill those03:55
filemoverok03:55
lontrafilemover: or you could tyr what Jucato said but i've never done that03:55
filemoveri tried it03:56
filemovernothing03:56
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filemoverill kill the notifier03:56
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Partyany ppl managed to pair a nokia with kubuntu feisty? it's driving me nuts :)03:57
Partybluetooth03:57
lontrafilemover: usually it's just adept acting out of control or that you've got some other instance going03:57
filemoverok03:57
lontraParty: would you say it's driving you 'nutty'?03:57
filemoverbut i think i deleted some serious stuff LOL03:57
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ubuntu_bleh03:58
JucatoParty: I think it's a known bug that pin  helper isn't working. ask in #ubuntu+103:58
ubuntu_can someone help me with restoring that grub?03:58
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Partylontra:  something like that yes :)03:58
ubuntu_!grub03:58
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:58
lontrafilemover: if you did...you have 2 options that i know of.  the first is reinstall...the second is chroot into that environment from a live cd and reinstall those borked packages...the first is easier03:58
PartyJucato: thnx!03:58
ubuntu_I looked at those things bit it doesn4t help :s03:58
filemoverget knoppix and fix grub with that03:59
filemovereasy03:59
filemoverlol03:59
ubuntu_knoppix ?03:59
filemoveryeah03:59
lontraubuntu_: you can also reinstall with a kubuntu or ubuntu cd03:59
ubuntu_yeah03:59
lontraubuntu_: grub that is03:59
filemoverwell i have done it b403:59
ubuntu_but I don4t want to reinstall kubuntu and my windows03:59
ubuntu_I4m on the live cd now...04:00
lontraubuntu_: chroot into your environment and run grub-install then update-grub04:00
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ubuntu_did that and it failed04:00
filemovergood advice04:00
lontraubuntu_: you don't need to reinstall kubuntu or windows04:00
lontraubuntu_: are you sure?  you could also try installing lilo through a chroot too04:00
ubuntu_lilo?04:01
lontra!lilo04:01
ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.04:01
ubuntu_I4ll use GRUB :>04:01
ubuntu_but I have several things I can chose with that grub_install04:02
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hatta lilo is so simple04:02
ubuntu_and I4m a bit noob :x04:02
hattagrub is an abomination before god04:02
ubuntu_how do I install lilo?04:02
filemoverIve got kubuntu on another machine u reckon i could copy the whole var directory onto this machine to fix all this04:02
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filemover:)04:03
hattahttp://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO-2.html04:03
ubuntu_I hope that page is fast because I have a very slow connection04:04
lontraubuntu_: chroot into your environment and apt-get install lilo04:04
ubuntu_ah loaded :>04:04
ubuntu_zhere will they be installed on ?04:04
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eilkerwhat do u do when u need root rights in konqueror ? i type, kdesu konqueror , isnt there any other practical way ?04:07
lontraeilker: why would you ever need root rights in konqueror?04:07
ubuntu_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /sbin/lilo04:08
ubuntu_/etc/lilo.conf: No such file or directory04:08
ubuntu_sigh :s04:08
eilkerlontra> some configration, some copy - paste04:08
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AniHatzisHi @ all. I want to set up dual-screen on kubuntu 6.10, but failed yet.04:11
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AniHatzisI tried with "System Settings" > "Monitor & Display", switched to Administrator mode. In tab "Hardware" added the second monitor, then in "Size, Orientation..." checked "Second screen" with "Dual screen" selected.04:12
AniHatzisThe strange thing: All the buttons on bottom of window ("Apply", "Reset", "Help", "Defaults") are de-activated.04:13
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ubuntu_!grib SIGH04:20
rahabhi there04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grib sigh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
ubuntu_!grub SIGH04:20
ubotugrub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB04:20
rahabdid something get messed up with the fglrx driver the last days?04:20
ubuntu_!grub04:20
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:20
rahabI get: "fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when i start fglrxinfo04:22
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rahabbut my xserver is up and running with fglrx04:22
eilker!kdenlive04:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdenlive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:22
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AniHatzis!dual screen04:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:24
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rahab!fglrx04:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:24
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ubuntu_I think I will need some help :s04:26
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ubuntu_I can4t get it to work :s04:26
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epimeth!he04:31
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epimethsoooo... lets talk locales!  !locale is totally useless!04:32
eagles0513875what is the command to unlock adept04:33
ubuntu_!grub04:33
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:33
eilker!pitivi04:33
ubotupitivi: non-linear audio/video editor using GStreamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 568 kB04:33
epimetheagles:  what do you mean?04:33
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epimetheagles0513875: like, the password that you enter when you try and open it?04:34
eagles0513875pkgs didnt finish installing and its locked adept pkg manager04:34
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eagles0513875dpkg something is the command i just need the rest of the command to finish installing the pkgs that were interrupted installin04:35
Jucatosudo dpkg --configure -a04:35
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epimethjucato... you're always so aloof :-)04:36
epimethknow anything about setting up locales?04:36
JucatoO.o04:36
eagles0513875ty jucato04:36
Jucato!locales | epimeth04:36
ubotuepimeth: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf04:36
epimethabsolutely useless04:36
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epimethit assumes you don't have either installed (I had both)04:37
Jucatoepimeth: the answer would be no.. :(04:37
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eagles0513875ty jucato04:37
Jucatoeagles0513875: yw04:37
epimetharg... I'll try more google then04:37
waylandbillepimeth: aloof? That means like detached, remote. If Jucato was aloof, he'd be lurking in the shadows saying nothing.04:38
Jucatowaylandbill: hence my "O.o" reaction :)04:38
AniHatzisvery funny... my KDE wallet got empty? password to wallet still working, but all stored keys are gone.04:38
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eilkerwhat was the command to clean /var/cache/apt ? i have 1.6 gb there :)04:39
eilkerapt-get clean ?04:39
Jucatow/ sudo. yes04:39
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eilkerthanx04:40
jhutchinssudo rm -rf /var/cachee/apt/*04:40
jhutchinsNOT the correct way.04:41
eilker:)04:41
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eagles0513875eilker apt-get clean or autoclean04:42
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eagles0513875im setting up vmware player how do i hit ok in the config screen04:43
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eilkereagles0513875> sudo autoclean ? i didnt know this,04:43
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eagles0513875if u type apt-get it bring up a list of apt-get commands eilker04:43
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eagles0513875im setting up vmware player how do i hit ok in the config screen04:43
jhutchinshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto04:44
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skittleswhen can I download the new feisty fawn? what is the release date?04:44
eagles0513875april 19th04:44
Jucato!feisty | skittles04:44
ubotuskittles: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)04:44
eagles0513875plus or minuse 2 to 3 days04:44
eilkereagles0513875 : , i never used vmware player, why dont u use server or workstation ? is player more practical ?04:44
jhutchinshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems04:45
eagles0513875eilker is ur user name registered04:45
jhutchinsOops, sloppy mouse.04:45
jhutchinshttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade04:45
eagles0513875so i can pm u04:45
eilkerjhutchins: thanx for link04:45
jhutchinseilker: Player is free.04:45
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eilkereagles0513875>: let me register04:45
eagles0513875server is to now btw j04:45
skittleshow do i set my cam? is there any way to set colors(typing) in yahoo or icq?04:45
eagles0513875ok eilker04:45
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eilkereagles0513875>: done04:46
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eilkerjhutchins> : vmware server is free too04:46
eagles0513875yes it is eilker04:46
CarinArri'm having sound problems (i.e. no sound at all) on my satellite pro p00-465. I've googled but it all seems like greek to me what's returned and there's really nothing related to my specific model number04:47
skittlesneeds more coffee brb04:47
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CarinArrbut it's talking about how there's some problems in some p100s with the dsdt04:47
CarinArrdoes anyone have a clue what that's all about04:47
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ackbahrHello! Every time I try to access anything via the network (on my LAN or outside), my computer freezes for a few seconds and then continues, displaying a frame with something about it finding no appropriate proxy. What can I have transformed in my various tweaking that might have triggered such a reaction? Thanks!04:49
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Scuzzlebuttzhow do i set-up my cam? on edgy04:50
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AniHatzisackbahr: probably you should check your proxy settings. if this happens in konqueror try Settings > Internet & Network > Proxy.04:51
Scuzzlebuttzhow do you set ur text in color, have tried it numberous times, what i'm doing isn't working04:51
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AniHatzisakcbahr: if this happens to a non-KDE app, e.g. firefox, you may want to check proxy settings of the app itself.04:51
ackbahrAniHatzis: Thanks a lot!04:51
ackbahrAniHatzis: It's konqueror, indeed. (never with firefox)04:52
Scuzzlebuttz<is a newbie to Linux>04:52
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AniHatzisackbahr: are you sure you need to configure a proxy?04:53
Scuzzlebuttzguess i came into the wrong room, but tks a bunch for all ur ehlp everyone l8trz04:53
ackbahrAniHatzis: It was on "detect proxy settings", or something like that, and I ticked "connect directly to the internet"04:53
AniHatzisackbahr: does it work now?04:54
ackbahrAniHatzis: Well, indeed no, so I don't understand how this setting came about!04:54
ackbahrI'll try it....04:54
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ackbahrAniHatzis: Yes, no more strange message!04:55
AniHatzis:)04:55
ackbahrThanks a lot.... Now why on earth did I set this thus? No idea.... Well, works now! Thanks!04:55
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ShukaidoHihi all ;)04:55
AniHatzisackbahr: because of famous "trial & error" ;)04:55
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Shukaidook, I'm a total linux Noob here...04:56
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AniHatzisShukaido: so, i am, too04:56
AniHatzis;)04:56
ackbahrAniHatzis: Sure.... I spent some dozens of hours tweaking my xgl, so maybe I messed everything up, up to this kind of things!04:56
pascuttime too ;P04:56
ShukaidoI was dumping Kubuntu onto a removable usb drive, and GRUB got installed onto my laptop instead of the removable drive...04:56
MaksufHello everyone. :] 04:56
Shukaidonow, i have to have the removable pluged in in order to boot up my laptop...04:56
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Shukaidowas wondering how, if at all, i could fix this... short of a total re-install04:57
ShukaidoI'm on a Dell Inspiron with XP Media Center Edition04:57
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ackbahrAniHatzis: I must admit that linux is now quite user friendly, but when you really try to tweak a detail, it's like a Rubik's cube! (well, at least you see the cube, whereas with W****ws you dont....)04:58
AniHatzisackbahr: I know thix. I do tweaking around myself.04:58
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Shukaidoany ideas?04:58
ackbahrAniHatzis: I bet everyone in here does! :)04:58
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Shukaidocan I "move" GRUB to my removable drive?04:58
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MaksufHmm.04:59
MaksufIs there a kubuntu-feisty support channel?04:59
MaksufDon't want to ask silly questions here.04:59
Shukaidothe idea was to have the ability to plug in the usb drive and have Linux at my fingertips on any comp that could boot form USB...04:59
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Shukaidobut, if the boot info's on my laptop, it kinda defeats the purpose...05:00
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waxyfreshShukaido: you can install to the usb05:00
AniHatzisackbahr: you are right, i still have to learn more on gnu/linux, but it is absolutely better than windows.05:00
SanneMaksuf: I don't think especially for Kubuntu, but there's #ubuntu+105:01
MaksufHmm.05:01
MaksufOkay.05:01
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Maksufmp3 + ogg support seems to be broken for me.05:02
CarinArrx05:02
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waxyfreshim running ubuntu and want to have the "kill non responding app" thing that pops up with ctrl alt esp,how do i install this?05:02
ackbahrAniHatzis: I'm a beginner as well, but I had actually tried to drop W** without success for sometime, but with Edgy it's really easy now!05:03
SanneMaksuf: I would try in #ubuntu+1. I'm still on Dapper even, so won't know anything about Feisty's specifics :)05:03
ackbahrWell, thanks all for everything, I gotta go.... So long and thanks for all the fish!05:03
Shukaidoi know i can install to it... I did already05:05
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Shukaidobut when it installed GRUB for multi-boot, it did it on my computer HD, NOT on the USB05:05
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eilker!updatedb05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about updatedb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:05
waxyfreshShukaido: disconect you hdriveard05:06
Shukaidoand I want to get rid of that... so I don't have to plug in my stupid usb drive in order to boot up my orrigional OS on the comp05:06
waxyfreshShukaido: disconect you hard drive then do it again05:06
eilkerwas it "updatedb" or "update db" ?05:06
Sanneeilker: updatedb05:06
Jucatosudo updatedb05:06
Shukaidohow do I get rid of it from my comp HD? so that it doesn't error out on me again?05:07
eilkerthanx05:07
waxyfreshShukaido: i dont know sorry05:07
waxyfresh!grub05:07
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:07
Sanneeilker: you can find all commands starting with "update" by typing "update<tab><tab>"05:07
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eilkersanne: yeah , right.   tabbed,..05:08
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Shukaidothis link has a section on changing the disk GRUB is installed to, but it doesn't make sense to me, where are those changes being made, it just tells how to find the drives your /boot and / are installed to... not where to make the changes...05:17
Shukaidohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:17
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waxyfreshim running ubuntu and want to have the "kill non responding app" thing that pops up with ctrl alt esp,how do i install this?05:18
bobdhicksI'm still having trouble with passwords. As advised here, I used "sudo passwd root <password>". That worked in allowing me to change the time. But when I tried to use administrator prividges, the password responded "Conversation with su failed." I can't do some of the things I need to do because I don't have priviledges. (I was also told that after I used "sudo passwd root... to use that password in kcontrol.) Where do I do that? Thanks for any help.05:18
Jucatowaxyfresh: "xkill" command05:19
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kristjan_where do I dl most upto date feisty iso?05:21
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Jucato!feisty | kristjan_05:22
ubotukristjan_: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)05:22
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eagles0513875how do i unlock /var/lib/dpkg05:22
Jucato!adeptfix | eagles051387505:23
ubotueagles0513875: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:23
kristjan_Jucato: does it have iso of current things? so I don't have to update much then installed?05:23
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Jucatokristjan_: you could ask in #ubuntu+105:23
Jucatokristjan_: but there will always be daily upgrades until the day it's released05:23
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eagles0513875how do i hit ok when a config box appears in adept05:26
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Jucatoeagles0513875: what are you trying to install?05:28
eagles0513875vmware player05:28
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Jucatodon't install it using Adept05:28
eagles0513875how should i install it05:28
PhinnFort!tor05:28
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB05:28
PhinnFort!privoxy05:29
ubotuprivoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-2-1 (edgy), package size 830 kB, installed size 2160 kB05:29
Jucatoeagles0513875: sudo apt-get install vmware-player05:29
eagles0513875ty jucato05:29
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rob-westcan someone help me with VNC05:30
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filemoverhi ive copied the var directory to a shared folder and im trying to copy it to another machine to fix a mistake i made but i get getting asked for authentication when i try to copy it over the network can anyone help05:34
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fernando_hey ppp05:45
Phoenix92xHi, could someone tell me how kubuntu manages USB disks that aren't mounted manually by the user? When I plug in a USB external HD for instance and it comes up as "usbdisk", how do I give that disk a particular name etc? One of my usb HDs I managed to name 'oni' somehow but I can't remember how and I'm having trouble finding any sort of documentation. Thanks05:45
jhutchinsfilemover: Supply authentification.05:45
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tuxhi05:46
tuxi wnt to install kdevelo[05:47
tuxkdevelop05:47
tuxapt-get doesnt has it05:47
tuxhow can i change apt to look up debian sources?05:47
filemoverive tried it jhutchins but i think my problems are a little deeper than that now05:47
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CArdox_PTha algum portugues por aqui??05:48
Lynoure!pt | CArdox_PT05:48
ubotuCArdox_PT: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:48
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jhutchinsfilemover: Some software like oo takes over the input system and won't recognize such sequences, you have to check the documentation of the sofware for how to insert or compose special characters.05:48
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jhutchinsfilemover: Whoops!  That's what I get for tracking multiple conversations!05:48
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filemoverlol05:49
jhutchinsfilemover: What are you trying to use for transfer?05:49
Sannetux: better don't use debian sources, they are not garanteed to work. And I'm sure you'll get kdevelop in the repositories.05:49
Phoenix92xanother interesting part I just noticed is that the drive I managed to name 'oni' is owned by my user while the other two USB external HDs I want to be able to give names to other than 'usbdisk' are owned by 'ivman' and group 'plugdev'05:49
filemoverim trying to transfer the whole var directory from one machine to another05:49
filemoverbut its not going to work05:49
Sannetux: kdevelop is in universe05:49
filemoverits to fix a problem i had05:50
tuxSanne:how, i went to www.kdevelop.org and no success installing the crap05:50
filemoveri deleted a lot of fies in the var directory and i dont have a lot of things working05:50
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: Last I checked the mechanism to distinguish multiple USB storage devices didn't work as it was supposed to.  There are too many layers managing the process and they conflict.05:50
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jhutchinsfilemover: This is why we don't delete things if we don't know what they are.05:50
jhutchinsfilemover: What I meant was what transport are you trying to use to copy the files?  scp?  rsync?05:51
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filemoverah! but in this instance it was an honest mictake05:51
filemovermistake05:51
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Sannetux: please read the link I will give you, then enable universe, then try again installing kdevelop. If you get stuck, please ask (and also please watch your language). here's the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories05:51
filemoveri was mounting a drive and was looking through bash history for the right command05:51
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filemoverand slipped05:51
filemoverLOL05:52
Phoenix92xjhutchins: interesting, so if I took 'oni' off the system I should be able to rename the other disk? or did I misunderstand?05:52
filemoverusb drives are handled a lot differently i think05:52
filemoverthan drives in the bio05:52
filemoverbios05:52
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: No, I don't think so.05:53
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Phoenix92xfilemover: ya so I've noticed, the part that really interests me is why my user has ownership of the usb drive 'oni' but the others aren't owned by my user and even as root I cant change ownership05:53
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: The actual file ownerships are recorded numerically, so it's the uid number that is associated with the file.05:53
ssmasudhow do I transfer a file from my home folder to a server which supports ssh???05:53
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jhutchinsssmasud: scp05:54
Phoenix92xjhutchins: one more time please?05:54
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jhutchinsfilemover: You want help with that trasfer?05:54
ssmasudjhutchin.........whats the syntax??05:54
Maksufssmasud, or sftp://(addy)/ in konq.05:54
filemoverno ill be ok jh but i want to work out this problem with apt and the lost files i have05:54
jhutchinsscp <file> [<user>@] <hostname>:<path to save file>05:54
filemoverif there is a way of reisntalling apt05:55
Phoenix92xjhutchins: what am I missing here?05:55
filemoverreinstalling05:55
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: How are you seeing the ownership of the drive?05:55
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wolferineneed a hand with starting up Apache (and mysql + php), where does apache, by default, create a dir, where I put my web files into it and can I change that?05:55
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Phoenix92xthe ownership of my usb disk 'oni' is owned by user phoenix and group phoenix (my user), ownership of the other two USB disks I have (which I can only connect one at a time using the automounting thing because it tries to assign the same name to both) is user ivman and grop plugdev05:56
jhutchinswolferine: http://www.menufoods.com/recall/05:57
Phoenix92xI read some of the man page for ivman and it seems to be a process to handle automounting of usb drives05:57
Sannewolferine: (disclaimer: I'm in Dapper) Default is /var/www, you can change that, let me check how I did that.05:57
jhutchinsWhoops.  Bad pastebuffer.05:57
Phoenix92xbut I dont understand why it would treat oni and the others differently05:57
jhutchinswolferine: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Apache+SSL+PHP+fp-2.html05:57
wolferinelol thanks jhutchins05:57
wolferinelol05:57
jhutchinswolferine: simple answer is /var/www, but you'll want to know more if you're running a public server.05:58
wolferineyeah, of course05:58
jhutchinsapache.org has good docs too, don't remember if they have a basic howto.05:58
jhutchins!lamp | wolferine05:58
ubotuwolferine: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:58
wolferineyeah, no basic really05:59
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wolferinewell, it seems I can get it running, I just dont understand the file system (tree) enough to do it properly05:59
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: I can't say for sure, but I think it's related to what's actually on the drives.05:59
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Phoenix92xhm05:59
slyfoxWhat do I need to install to make this work?  "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"05:59
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Phoenix92xjhutchins: one thing I can say is oni is ext3 and the other two are ntfs05:59
Phoenix92xthat sound plausible?06:00
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: Oh yeah.06:00
filemoverso is there anyway to reinstall apt and most of the files deleted from the var directory short of a complete reinstall06:00
filemover:)06:00
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: ntfs defaults to non-writable on linux systems.06:00
Phoenix92xahh..well there's an explanation, could I trouble you a bit more to tell me why? I'm unfamiliar with the current state of "does ntfs fuck up or not" lol06:00
jhutchins!ntfs | Phoenix92x06:00
ubotuPhoenix92x: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:00
leileilolntfs-3g is stable for me06:00
wolferineso could you explain to me where a good place to make my document root, and where would NOT be a good idea to place it?06:00
Phoenix92xahhh...so non-writeable would mean I couldnt change the ownerships right?06:00
leileiloli haven't had a big problem with it06:00
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Sannewolferine: I have my webroot in /mnt/wrk. I made a file /etc/apache2/conf.d/alias and put in the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11187/06:01
jhutchinswolferine /var/www/http would be good, so would /home/user/www.06:01
wolferineright, so I can do it in my user dir06:01
wolferinenow if you dont mind, I need to take us off track for a min06:02
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Phoenix92xthank you very much jhutchins06:02
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jhutchinswolferine: You do need to edit the apache config file to specify where you put stuff.06:02
Phoenix92xleileilol: the ntfs-3g driver has been stable enough for you to use day to day?06:02
leileilolyes06:02
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leileilolno prob on my two seagates!06:02
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: It's always a good idea to make a backup.\06:02
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Phoenix92xlol definitely is06:03
Phoenix92xthanks much for the help figuring that out06:03
jhutchinsMyself, I've been using the old ntfs drivers since ~1999, no problems.  Thing is, the first sign of trouble can be a total loss of data.06:03
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Phoenix92xrighto...06:03
wolferinethis is my second k/ubuntu install, the first one, I set my /username to another partition on my HD, how would I do this again (and use that /home/username dir) ?06:03
wolferine+ do the nicks have to be the same?06:03
Sannewolferine: also have a look at /etc/apache2/README06:03
Phoenix92xjhutchins: you havnt tried the new ones like leileilol mentioned?06:03
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: Nope, no windows stuff left here.06:04
Phoenix92xjhutchins: heh that would do it06:04
filemovercan anyone help with my apt problem thnx06:04
Phoenix92xa lot of people who I still want to give files to on these drives are still stuck in windows land06:04
wolferineyes, I have read the README a times now06:04
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: There is a utility to change it, but you can just edit /etc/passwd (sudo).06:04
Phoenix92xand the ifs driver doesnt work on some of their machines06:04
Phoenix92xto change what?06:04
Phoenix92xthink I missed something06:05
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: You'll see the home directory specified there.06:05
Phoenix92x..never asked about the home directory, lol06:05
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: Sorry, that was for wolferine.06:05
Phoenix92xahh06:05
jhutchinswolferine: yOu get that?06:05
bobdhicksNeed help with password problem. Installed kubuntu 6.1, When I try administrator button, won't accept logon password. Used "sudo passwd root ...". This allowed me to change time. Can't use it anywhere else. Where could I find the problem?06:05
wolferinenot sure jhutchins , which one?06:06
Phoenix92xwolferine: you can edit /etc/passwd to change the home directory06:06
wolferineoh06:06
Phoenix92xdo I have that right jhutchins?06:06
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Phoenix92xI'm learnin something too here, lol06:07
rob-westwell it worked befor06:07
Phoenix92xrob-west: stupid question, is he behind a NAT/is there port forwarding?06:07
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: Yes.06:07
rob-westbefore*06:07
rob-westim trying to do it locally06:07
Phoenix92xohhh...06:07
rob-westnot from outside my lan06:07
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Phoenix92xvnc was never really my friend06:08
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rob-westit worked before sooooooo06:08
Phoenix92xmaybe he changed something on his end?06:08
rob-westnah06:08
Phoenix92xcan you ping the machine?06:08
rob-westimm remove everything for VNC06:08
jhutchinswolferine: usermod and userconfig may also be useful.06:09
rob-westill*06:09
fernando_any eclipse user????06:09
rob-westand im on the machine in trying to vnc into06:09
rob-westits my comptuer06:09
wolferineok, thanks06:09
rob-westcomputer*06:09
wolferinelooking at passwrd atm06:09
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Phoenix92xdoes anyone here know of any media player that can play .evo files? They're the video files on some of the decrypted HD-DVDs floating around06:10
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angasule!kaffeine06:11
ubotukaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2160 kB, installed size 5868 kB06:11
Phoenix92xum...cant get kaffiene to start actually06:12
Phoenix92xdoesnt even generate any output from terminal06:12
angasuleI can get kaffeine to start, but it hangs if I try to play a video06:12
angasuleit used to work :/06:12
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eilker!pan06:12
ubotupan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.2.91-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 3616 kB06:12
angasulemaybe it's because I removed the sound card...06:12
rob-westi think i know why it wont work06:12
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Phoenix92xwhy?06:13
VSpikeis there any easy way to check a CD for errors?06:13
wolferinecan I change my /home into something else, then take /myhome and change it into my /home?06:13
Phoenix92xit used to work for me, now it just never actually starts...not even any output error06:14
wolferineor is it easier to just leave it as /myhome and set it as the default for my users?06:14
filemovercan anyone help me with reinstalling apt and dpkg is there a way to do it from source Ive lost most of the files in my var directory and cant use apt and dpkg06:15
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wolferinedo you have synaptic filemover ?06:15
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c0nv1ctfilemover: wow, why are you reinstalling apt?06:15
filemoversynaptic is directly connected to apt lists06:15
wolferineah06:16
jhutchinsc0nv1ct: He accidentally deleted most of it.06:16
filemoverso its a no go06:16
filemoverLOL06:16
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c0nv1ctwow06:16
wolferinereinstal06:16
wolferinewill always fix an issue :)06:16
filemoverthats what im trying to avoid06:16
c0nv1cti'm sure you can install from source06:16
filemoveryeah but ive got a lot of work on here06:16
filemoveryeah thats what i thoght06:16
filemoversource is the way to go06:16
wolferineso jhutchins which scenerio will probably work the best?06:17
jhutchinswolferine: for what?06:17
filemoverbut wheres the bes place to find these sources apt and dpkg are in deb packages on a debian CD i have06:17
wolferinesince I have /home on my linux partition, and I have /myhome on my "free space" parition06:17
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filemoveris there a cvs for apt06:18
bentob0xhow do you regenerate the ~/Desktop/.desktop file?06:18
wolferineoh, should I change the name of /home, then make /myhome into /home06:18
c0nv1ctwolferine: just move the entire contents of /home to /myhome, then mount your /myhome partition to /home06:18
bentob0xI think I messed it up06:18
wolferinehow would I do that c0nv1ct ?06:18
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wolferinejust mount /myhome /home?06:20
wolferinesomething that straight-forward?06:20
magicmike_I'm trying for the first time to burn an audio cd using K3b. When I try to drag an mp3 to the project I get the error message: Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: Can someone tell me what I need to do to get this to work?06:21
jhutchins!mp3 | magicmike_06:22
ubotumagicmike_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:22
rob-westnice vnc is working06:22
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eilker!cowbell06:24
ubotucowbell: An easy-to-use tag editor for your music files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 548 kB06:24
rob-westok now how do i change vnc settings06:24
filemoveri think ill have to do this from the liveCD chroot into the partition and install it like that06:25
rob-westis there gui or is it all text06:25
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jhutchinsrob-west: Dunno.  Check your man pages.06:25
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jhutchinsrob-west: There's more than one vnc system.06:25
bigdad1ecan someone help me with my ATI vga?06:25
wolferineyes, I am not 100% familiat with using mount, whether it be a hard mount, or just a link06:25
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jhutchins!ati | bigdad1e06:26
ubotubigdad1e: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:26
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jhutchinswolferine mount != link.06:26
c0nv1ctwolferine: sorry i had a phone call, its pretty simple to move your /home over to a new partition06:26
bigdad1ei already did that it helped me but i can get it to go past the kubuntu loading/booting screen on startup06:26
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wolferineyeah, c0nv1ct copying now06:26
wolferinejust the mount part I am not 100% about06:27
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c0nv1ctwolferine: the only hard part, is making sure you get all the hidden files copied06:27
ubuntu_hi; it seems my partition where linux is on is corrupted06:27
ubuntu_how can I fix that?06:27
wolferineyeah, I got them06:27
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jhutchinsubuntu_: Short answer fsck.06:27
ubuntu_it is partition magic that said that; I4m now on live cd06:27
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ubuntu_well I don4t know more ... partition magic said it06:28
jhutchinsubuntu_: Probably not worth the effort to recover it, just reformat/reinstall.06:28
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ubuntu_sigh06:28
ubuntu_but I don4t want to reinstall06:28
ubuntu_is there non other way ?06:28
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ubuntu_or is it just partition magic that don4t know what to do with ext3 ?06:28
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wolferinec0nv1ct, so do i just mount /home /myhome?06:29
jhutchinsubuntu_: Try qparted and/or the live cd, see what they say.  PM should handle it, but you might have a copy that doesn't.06:29
pisedoffcracker1can someone point me in the direction of a beryl install forum with beryl stable repos06:29
c0nv1ctwolferine: find out what device /myhome is mounted to, then mount that to /home06:29
jhutchins!beryl | pisedoffcracker106:30
ubotupisedoffcracker1: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:30
c0nv1ctwolferine: then make it stick in fstab06:30
wolferinehmmm06:30
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wolferinenot sure what to look at06:30
jhutchinspisedoffcracker1: There's a howto on the project page.06:30
c0nv1ctwolferine: type mount, it will show what device it is06:30
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wolferineit?06:31
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bigdad1ejhutchins: that forum did what it could for me but i cant get past the kubuntu loading on start up06:31
jhutchinsbigdad1e: Do you get a console?06:32
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c0nv1ctwolferine: /myhome06:32
bigdad1ejhutchins: i get a black blank screen06:32
wolferineits not listing in mount06:32
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c0nv1ctwolferine: it has to, if /myhome is mounted06:33
c0nv1ctwolferine: it is a seperate partition correct?06:33
jhutchinsbigdad1e: Press Ctrl-Alt-F106:33
wolferineyou telling me that it has to, when its not06:33
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bigdad1ejhutchins: i did didnt do anything06:33
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c0nv1ctwolferine: if it is a seperate device and it is mounted, it will be listed in the output of 'mount'06:33
wolferinec0nv1ct, and I am telling you its not here, again06:34
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c0nv1ctwolferine: how did you mount it in the first place then?06:34
jhutchinswolferine: if it doesn't show up when you run mount, it's not mounted.06:34
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wolferineok06:34
jhutchinswolferine: Where is /myhome actually located?06:34
wolferineon another partition06:35
wolferinewhich has my free space06:35
c0nv1ctwolferine: its has its own partition?06:35
jhutchinswolferine; ok, in simple terms you could mount that other partition as home.06:35
c0nv1ctjhutchins: thats what we are trying to do, but he cant find out what device it is06:35
wolferinejust mount /myhome /home06:35
wolferine>06:35
wolferine?06:35
fernando_I get an upgrade for adept manager horrible!!! I can't see many packages... ist categorize programs, but I want the all adept back.. any idea how can I get the old one???06:35
jhutchinswolferine: There are actually ways to mount a directory, but it's not simple.06:35
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c0nv1ctwolferine: no, you need to find out what device the partition is06:36
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wolferinethey are all reiserfs06:36
c0nv1ctwolferine: if it really is a separate partition, it has a device listed in mount06:36
jhutchinswolferine: fdisk -l will show you available partitions, if that helps.06:36
wolferinec0nv1ct,  pls stop it06:36
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c0nv1ctwolferine: what?06:36
jhutchinswolferine: Is /myhome the full path?06:37
payam#kubuntu-se06:37
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jhutchinswolferine: I've done this, I can help.06:37
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c0nv1ctsame, i just did it the other day06:37
wolferineits on /sda606:38
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jhutchinswolferine: Is sda6 mounted already?06:38
wolferinehow do I tell?06:38
jhutchinswolferine: or is /myhome the whole partition?06:38
wolferineyes, its listed in mount06:39
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c0nv1ctjhutchins: what is the mount point indicated in the 'mount' command for /dev/sda6?06:39
c0nv1cti mean wolferine06:39
wolferineyes /myhome is all of the free space, so its the entire partition06:39
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jhutchinswolferine: ok, you can umount /dev/hda6 and mount /dev/hda6 /home, or you can leave it mounted, rm -r /home, and ln -s /myhome /home.06:40
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c0nv1ctwolferine: is /home completely empty now, after you copied it all to /myhome?06:40
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LynoureWhat package takes care of adding entries for new kde programs into the kde menu?06:40
bigdad1edoes anyone know anything about ati vga's? that can help me without sending me to the forum?06:40
jhutchinswolferine: If you mount a partion to a mountpoint that contains files, those files stay there but are not accessible.06:40
jhutchinsLynoure: It's up to each individual package to do that.06:41
LynoureI'm trying to figure out what to report a bug against on feisty.06:41
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Lynourejhutchins: that's weird.06:41
wolferineu meant /sda6, not /hda606:41
jhutchinsLynoure: Have you restarted kde?06:41
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Lynourejhutchins: yes06:41
jhutchinswolferine: sure.06:41
Lynourejhutchins: and none of the three software I installed showed (knode, kdissert, vym)06:42
wolferinenot sure what that last comment means, can you explain?06:42
jhutchinsLynoure: There is an application discovery program you can get on some systems, but the actual package shold take care of the menu entry.06:42
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jhutchinswolferine: If I have stuff in /home, I can still mount /dev/sda6 /home - /home will then show the contents of hda6 instead of what's actually in it, until I umount it.06:43
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Lynourejhutchins: I could test with some more programs. Any recommendation?06:44
Lynourejhutchins: or then just report a bug against one or all of these.06:45
LoptydopyAnyone now how to configure the Valito2 pen buttons?06:45
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jhutchinsLynoure: I would say file a report for each of them.  It's possible the menu is locked or something, but not likely.  Have you tried editing it manually?06:45
magicmike_jhutchins: Thanks, I installed the needed libs.06:45
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Lynourejhutchins: I can add things manually just fine06:46
Lynourejhutchins: they appear right away, no need for kde restart, even06:46
jhutchinsLynoure: Yes, because the menu editor reloads the menu.  There is a dcop command to do that, but I don't know it.06:46
jhutchinsLynoure: Feisty?06:47
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Lynourejhutchins: yes.06:47
jhutchinsYeah, I would check in ubuntu+1, see if you can get any answers there.06:47
jhutchins#ubuntu+106:48
Lynourejhutchins: hardly any kde users there apart from Tm_T06:48
bigdad1eso no1 can help me with my ati vga problem?06:48
wolferineso I want to make sure /home had no files on it06:48
c0nv1ctwolferine: if you want to permanently mount sda6 there, yes, or else you are wasting space06:48
Lynourejhutchins: I guess I'll just report a bug and see what happens06:49
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bigdad1ethis is a f-in waste06:49
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youssefgood evening06:50
soulriderhi06:50
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jhutchinsYeah, running bleeding-edge unsupported hardware is a pain.06:50
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jhutchinsMe, I paid $35 for my video card 5 years ago, and it works just fine.06:51
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LoptydopyAnyone now how to configure the Valito2 pen buttons?06:51
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Skullerhow do i mount images in kubun?06:53
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c0nv1ctSkuller: ISO images?06:53
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Skullerc0nv1ct: yes....ISO, bin/cue, mdf/mds, ccd, etc06:54
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c0nv1ctSkuller: mount can support ISOs by default, but other formats may require fuseiso06:54
vadimhi to everybody!06:54
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LoptydopyAnyone now how to configure the Valito2 pen buttons?06:54
Skuller!fuseiso06:54
ubotufuseiso: FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060107-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB06:54
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Skullerc0nv1ct: so i should just install fuseiso and am all good to go?06:55
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c0nv1ctSkuller: and learn how to use it :)06:55
wolferinethanks you two, I think I figured it out06:55
mervteckhey guys whats the proper command to mount cdrom0 ?06:55
wolferinenow hopefully I can use this advise to setup my FTP06:55
Skullerc0nv1ct: hehe...yea i'll try that too....thanks for the help06:55
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wolferineand apache...06:55
c0nv1ctSkuller: np, i was able to use fuseiso to get a mdf/mds mounted, only took a few mins of learning the syntax06:56
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LoptydopyAnyone now how to configure the Valito2 pen buttons?06:56
vadimis there any posibility to see which processes have oppened handles to a file?06:56
c0nv1ctLoptydopy: i'm not familiar with that device, have you searched the forums?06:57
Skullerc0nv1ct: where do i learn the commands for it?...the syntaxes n stuff06:57
Skullerc0nv1ct: its dosent have a GUI i presume06:58
c0nv1ctSkuller: once you install it, type 'man fuseiso'06:58
Skullerit*06:58
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c0nv1ctSkuller: not that i know of... you may also need to install fusemount, if it doesnt install it automatically as a dependancy06:58
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lupulcan anyone help me please? what do i have to do to let valknut through guarddog? please !!!06:59
Skullercthe software installed fuseiso and libfuse2...not fusemount....i dint even see it in the list06:59
vadimand another quetion... how to set different interface languages for different users?06:59
lupuli can connect at the hub but i can't download from users06:59
c0nv1ctlupul: what ports does valknut need to be opened?06:59
Skullerc0nv1ct: yes..theres not 'fusemount' in the list of packages07:00
Loptydopyc0nv1ct: Yes, I have search the forum. It's a Wacom Valito 2. The buttons on the pen work,  but i would like to configure the buttons like a mouse. Left and right click. If you know what im talking about.07:00
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c0nv1ctSkuller: i believe it is required, but you can try without it and see if it asks for it07:00
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c0nv1ctLoptydopy: you may want to look into xmodmap or xbindkeys for that to work07:01
lupul9174 for him and 4012 for the local hub07:01
Skullerc0nv1ct: ok..i have it installed...and i dont understand the command i need to use to mount a file07:01
lupuli already made new protocols winth these ports but still nothing07:01
lupul*with07:02
Skullerc0nv1ct: can u give me the command to mount an img in /home/extracted named A.bin07:02
c0nv1ctSkuller: i believe its 'fuseiso image.iso /mnt/whereever'07:02
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c0nv1ctlupul: adding those ports to guarddog should work then07:03
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pafnutiyhelp. i'm novice in ubuntu. i just have installed wine. where i can launch it?07:03
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lupulyes but it doesn't07:04
Tm_Tpafnutiy: you don't launch wine alone really07:04
c0nv1ctpafnutiy: wine isnt launched, it is used to launch windows executables07:04
lupuli can chat with all the users, i can connect to the hub but i can't get their file list or any data from them07:04
c0nv1ctlupul: guarddog gave me problems too, i stopped using it07:04
lupulso what shoul i use?07:04
c0nv1ctlupul: are you behind a router?07:05
lupul*should07:05
lupulno07:05
c0nv1ctlupul: i use arno-iptables-firewall, theres no GUI, you have to edit a conf to open ports07:05
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lupuli tried that but...07:05
lupula little too hard for me07:05
lupulstill a newbee07:05
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c0nv1ctlupul: do you really need a firewall?07:06
pafnutiythanks07:06
lupulyes07:06
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hattaeveryone needs a firewall07:06
lupuli recently been kicked out from the hub because someone was using my computer to spam07:06
c0nv1ctnot necessarily07:06
wolferinenow that I did all these mount changes07:07
Skullerc0nv1ct: fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory07:07
jhutchinsBest practice is to have a firewall on a seperate device.07:07
Skuller:(07:07
wolferinedo I need to restart/log my system, to take affect?07:07
c0nv1ctSkuller: yep, install fusermount :)07:07
jhutchinsSkuller: What created the image?07:07
hattaok, everyone who has an internet connection needs a firewall07:07
c0nv1ctwolferine: did you add the mount to fstab to make it permanent?07:07
wolferinei cannot seem to browse my f/s using a gui07:07
Skullerjhutchins: its powerproducer 4's image file in bin/cue format07:07
c0nv1cthatta: still, not necessarily07:08
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jhutchinsSkuller: A DVD or something?07:08
wolferinec0nv1ct, no, I hadnt yet07:08
Skullerjhutchins: a cd approx 350 mb07:08
hattaok, how does someone with an internet connection get by without a firewall and not getting owned?07:08
c0nv1ctwolferine: add the mount to fstab, or else it will not be there after you reboot07:08
wolferineits already in there, I beleive07:08
hattaI assume you're runing X so there's one big attack vector right there07:08
wolferinewhich mount?07:08
jhutchinsSkuller: It's pretty easy to mount an .iso image, but I'm not sure about bin/cue.07:09
jhutchins!loopback07:09
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.07:09
c0nv1cthatta: how so? xorg doesnt open any ports07:09
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Skullerjhutchins: thanks07:09
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jhutchinsSkuller: Looks like bin2iso would be useful in your case.07:10
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hattahm it did last I checked07:10
wolferinejust /dev/sda6 /home ?07:10
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wolferineand thats it?07:10
Skullerjhutchins: yea...i thought so too....but i just wanted to see if fuseiso would aloow me a bin/cue07:10
c0nv1cthatta: using nmap, there is only 1 open port on my machine, and that is ssh07:10
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c0nv1cthatta: xfree used to open ports AFAIK, but not xorg07:11
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hattac0nv1ct, ah I see07:13
hattayeah I haven't checked in a while heh07:13
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wolferinejhutchins, is that it, just /dev/sda6 /home ? (in fstab)07:15
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jhutchinswolferine: Have a look at the other entries there, make it similar.07:16
Skullerc0nv1ct: no i couldnt get fuseiso to work...something messed up..but now i need help in unmounting a partition that is 0mb according to glass monitor07:16
c0nv1ctwolferine: you dont have to use the UUID, you can put /dev/sda6 there, or use 'blkid' to find out the UUID of sda607:17
c0nv1ctSkuller: just use umount07:17
Skullerc0nv1ct: i did mkdir /ex and then fuseiso A.bin /ex07:17
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caris_mereWhen my computer checked my drives on start up, it said my swap drive activation failed.07:17
wolferinedump and pass?07:17
wolferinewhat do those need to be?07:17
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c0nv1ct0 2 is what mine is set to07:18
jhutchins0 0 on mine.07:18
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jhutchins/ is 0 107:18
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wolferinei have many variations in my fstab as well07:18
caris_mereWhy would my swap drive fail to be activated?07:19
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wolferinewhat do they mean, so I can edit them proerly?07:19
jhutchinswolferine: man fstab07:19
Skullercaris_mere: i have no idea how to use umount07:19
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jhutchinscaris_mere: They can become corrupt, especially if you use suspend.07:19
c0nv1ctwolferine: the 'pass' number is for fsck to set the order it is checked07:20
caris_merejhutchins: what do I do about that?07:20
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meme-1Hey folks.... can someone kindly tell what what the Linux equivalent to dir /s /on >text.txt would be (in DOS that means list the contents of a folder and all sub-folders and sort by name redirect to a text file)?07:20
jhutchinscaris_mere: You should see what actual error you get with the sudo swapon -a command, but if it's corrupt you can reformat it.07:21
caris_merejhutchins: it says swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/e7280f95-1de7-40f7-888b-89bc027b61e6: Invalid argument07:22
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jhutchinsmeme-1: ls defaults to sort-by-name, or you can pipe it through sort if you don't want it by directory; -R will give you recursive (subdirectories); >  will redirect it to a file just like dos.07:22
c0nv1ctSkuller: just type umount /ex07:22
jhutchinsmeme-1:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html07:22
jhutchinsc0nv1ct: sudo07:23
meme-1jhutchins: Thanks a bunch!07:23
meme-1jhutchins: Great reference thanks again!07:23
jhutchinscaris_mere: Do fdisk -l, see if there's a swap partition listed.07:23
jhutchinsmeme-1: Always happy to help a fellow DOS hacker.07:23
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Skullerc0nv1ct: ahh...nice...thanks07:24
caris_merejhutchins: I don't see one07:24
Skuller!loopback | skuller07:24
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jhutchinscaris_mere: That _would_ explain it.  Do you see space where one might have been?07:25
wolferineshow do I change an owner of a dir from the cli ?07:25
Skullerc0nv1ct: what does '/ex is not in the fstab' mean?07:25
c0nv1ctSkuller: what are you typing when you get that?07:26
jhutchinswolferines: chown <user>:<group> <file>07:26
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Skullerc0nv1ct: umount /ex.......when i did sudo then it removed it07:26
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jhutchinsSkuller: fstab is a file that lists defaults for mounting partitions.07:26
Ashex|Workgood day everyone :)07:26
caris_merejhutchins: yes, it is after my / partition07:26
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Skullerohh07:27
wolferinesok, so I have an ls -la listing of my /home07:27
c0nv1ctSkuller: yeah, u dont need to worry about it then07:27
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wolferinesin it I have my /oldusername /newusername in it07:27
jhutchinscaris_mere: What is the ID or "System" for it?07:27
livingdaylighti downloaded a torrent and instead of avi it is ogm. Anyone know .ogm format?07:27
Skullerc0nv1ct: nice...i ave to fet ready fer school..when im bak then i'll get back to my bin/cue thing07:27
Skullerthanks07:27
c0nv1ctSkuller: hehe k07:28
wolferinesthe /oldusername has old old listed in the ls -la07:28
Skullerget=get..lol07:28
jhutchins!loopback | livingdaylight07:28
ubotulivingdaylight: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.07:28
LjLlivingdaylight: it's Ogg07:28
wolferinesnow that  I have chown, I have newuser root listed in the ls -la07:28
Ash-FoxIf I wanted to get the RGB values that KDE is currently using for theming, what would be the best way todo that for a bash script?07:28
wolferinesdo they both have to be newuser, for me to get back into Ggome?07:28
LjLlivingdaylight: i think you should be able to open it with any standard ubuntu player, they all support ogg theora i suppose07:28
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caris_merejhutchins: I'm not sure what you mean.07:29
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caris_merejhutchins: I am using qtparted to check this stuff07:29
jhutchinscaris_mere: Is there a partition defined as Linux Swap (82)?07:29
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caris_merejhutchins: I guess not. I don't know. qtparted says that it doesn't know what type of partition it is07:30
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wolferinesin an ls -la, is it maybe owner and creator as the headers to tables?07:31
meme-1jhutchins: Again, thank you so much. The only problem is that ls doesn't list the file size details (like DOS dir does)... I tried ls -r -l >text but the resulting text file still doesn't show the file sizes. What is wrong?07:31
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wolferinessince I did create the dir with root07:31
wolferinesbut then chown to user07:32
jhutchinsmeme-1: ls -Rl07:32
meme-1DOH! lol07:32
wolferinesok, this might be 100% easier if I just reformat I think07:32
meme-1Thanks07:32
wolferinesim not able to get into my dm again07:32
wolferinesnow I have a log file, which is telling me that /dev/sda6: No such file or directory07:34
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dergringohey guys is there a driver that can be used for HP Color LaserJet 2600n?07:35
wolferineswhat a pain in the a$$07:35
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livingdaylightLjL: yes, it si playing no problem. BUt i want to burn it to dvd. I had DeVeDe to convert .avi to iso but this ogm format threw me07:36
LjLlivingdaylight: hm, the devede description doesn't mention Ogg Theora, but then it says it supports anything that mplayer supports... i assume mplayer would support Ogg07:38
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livingdaylightLjL: interesting, suggests that in theory it should convert ogm to iso aswell then... only trying out will tell ^^07:39
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wolferineswell, this all really messed up my system07:39
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wolferinesthanks for the help :/07:39
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meme-1jhutchins: Worked like a charm! Thanks!  BTW... this solution is certainly good enough... but I am curious if there is another alternative to ls -Rl >xxx because it sure isn't as "clean" as DIR /s /on >xxx.  For instance, I don't need to see permisions and ownership (this info is obvious to me and just takes up space).07:40
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jhutchinsmeme-1: The documentation for the bash shell might give you more detail on it.07:41
wolferineshaving a problem with which is exactly /home07:42
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Netboy541so i have a SAA7134 tv card i haven't gotten to work for about 2 weeks now07:43
Netboy541anyone have ANY ideas before I just give up?07:43
wolferines2 weeks?07:44
jhutchinsNetboy541: Find anything on google?07:44
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wolferinesi would have just given it like 2 days07:44
wolferineslol07:44
jazzKhi all07:44
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Netboy541yeah my post is the first one on google if that says anything07:44
jazzKmy problem, when i lock the session and try to unlock, my password fail07:44
wolferineswell, here goes the third install07:44
Netboy541http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38694607:44
Netboy541that's the story.... so if anyone has any ideas, i'd sure appreciate it.07:45
swanfljust thought I'd let you guys know I'm going back to Gentoo07:45
jhutchinsNetboy541: I would guess that it's not supported.07:45
Netboy541says it is07:46
Netboy541in the kernel07:46
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Netboy541it detects it, and everything....07:46
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Netboy541now you see why i'm so aggravated.. lol07:46
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sozialarschhi07:47
sozialarschi've got a little problem or question...07:47
sozialarschi'm now using the radeon driver for my 9700Mobility radeon07:48
livingdaylightLjL: ogg rocks07:48
sozialarschand glxgears runs normal..07:48
sozialarschbut when i install xorg-driver-fglrx07:48
sozialarschand still don't use fglrx07:48
livingdaylightDeVeDe Rocks!07:48
sozialarschglxgears runs slowly...07:48
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vermsHello!07:50
vermsUn noob de plus sur Kubuntu: moi!07:50
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livingdaylight!fr07:50
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:50
vermsoups orry07:51
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livingdaylightverms: pas'd probleme07:51
verms:)07:51
tuxligohi!07:51
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frojndhello!08:03
frojndhow can I get rid of kernesl in my GRUB08:03
frojndthe problem is I have kubuntu and xubuntu08:03
frojndand I have installed kubuntu and xubuntu twice time08:04
Ashex|Worksudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst08:04
frojndso I have 4 choices in GRUB08:04
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Ashex|Workyou can remove entries from there08:04
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Ashex|Workhowever be careful what you remove, it's not difficult to kill grub by snarfing menu.lst08:04
blue|palmcan anyone tell me why amarok could possibly play mp3's with much noise (if i use totem for example it plays fine)08:05
Ashex|Worknoise?08:05
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frojndAshex|Work: can I pastebin and u tell me what is what :D08:05
frojndAshex|Work: couse I have too many choices :P08:05
Ashex|Workfrojnd, sure08:05
frojndjust a sec08:05
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pafnutiyhi! can anyone tell me whats the best program for windows application launching on ubuntu? wine?08:07
Skullercan anyone give me the command to edit my xorg.conf?08:07
frojndAshex|Work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11207/08:07
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frojnddon't get scared :D08:07
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Skullerpafnutiy: yes wine is quite good08:08
Skullerthen theres cedega as well08:08
Skuller!wine | pafnutiy08:08
ubotupafnutiy: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:08
Skuller!cedega | pafnutiy08:08
frojndAshex|Work: I only need kernel 2.6.17-11 kubuntu and 2.6.17-10 - xubuntu08:08
ubotupafnutiy: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega08:08
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AudiAt3rThx 4 beautiful OS :)08:08
Ashex|Workfrojnd, I'll clean it up for you08:08
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Ashex|Workthat's a very messy menu08:09
frojndyep08:09
frojnd:>08:09
Skullercan someone please tell me the path to my xorg.conf file?08:09
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frojndSkuller: /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:09
Skullerfrojnd: thnx08:09
frojndSkuller: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:09
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pafnutiythanx08:10
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soulriderare there any c++ programmers here ?08:11
frojndsoulrider: /j #c++08:12
blue|palmI can program in c++08:12
blue|palmsoulrider: me08:12
soulrideri just wanna ask a simple question08:12
blue|palmsoulrider: go ahead and ask08:12
soulriderok, how different is the code you write on windows than the one in windows08:12
soulrider?08:12
Ashex|Workfrojnd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11208/08:12
blue|palmsoulrider: wha?08:12
Ashex|WorkI cleaned it up, edited the titles to state the actual distro08:12
soulriderbecause im starting to learn C++ (i know java) and i was sent some code. It wont comple with gcc though08:12
blue|palmsoulrider: huh?08:12
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Ashex|Workand added a couple comments in to point out which is kubuntu and which is ubuntu08:13
soulridersecond windows y linux, sorry :P08:13
Ashex|Workfrojnd, make a backup of menu.lst first08:13
Ashex|Worksudo cp menu.lst menu.lst.bak08:13
frojndAshex|Work: tnx, I will08:13
blue|palmsoulrider: there is something called ANSI C++ which is cross-platform08:13
blue|palmsoulrider: it is basiccally a standard08:13
soulrideri see08:13
blue|palmsoulrider: its the one where you have a main function etc and your #includes at the top08:14
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blue|palmsoulrider: if it compiles on linux it should compile on windows08:14
soulriderat college were gonna program using visual .net200508:14
blue|palmsoulrider: thats really easy :)08:14
soulriderbut since i use linux i wanna know how i will have to write stuff for it to compile on windows also08:14
blue|palmsoulrider: ooh not so easy08:14
blue|palmsoulrider: Lots of things to consider...08:14
soulrider=/08:14
soulrideri will be writing console apps08:15
blue|palmsoulrider: ah thats not so bad then08:15
soulriderok08:15
blue|palmsoulrider: as long as you stick to using STL and ANSI standrads it should compile on unix systems, and windows08:15
soulrideronce we start to write actual code im gonna ask my teacher what the deal is witht he compilers08:15
wolferinesdoesnt look like my mouse driver is loaded properly08:15
blue|palmsoulrider: call g++ on your file08:15
wolferineswhat can I do to troubleshoot it?08:15
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blue|palmsoulrider: instead of gcc08:16
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soulriderk, hold on08:16
soulriderlet me see if i didnt delete the stuff :P08:16
blue|palmsoulrider: hehe08:16
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blue|palmcan anyone tell me why amarok could possibly play mp3's with much noise (if i use totem for example it plays fine)08:16
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soulriderblue|palm: wont work, it gives me an error that the main method must return an int08:17
blue|palmsoulrider: so make it return an int :)08:17
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blue|palmsoulrider: return 0;08:17
soulriderblue|palm: i tried that today, but it didnt work08:17
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soulriderthe main() method returns void though08:18
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blue|palmsoulrider: it must be the last line of your function (to keep things simple)08:18
wolferinesmy mouse works fine at the login screen, but once it heads into the wm, it slows right down08:18
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blue|palmsoulrider: ah.... int main(void){code}08:18
blue|palmsoulrider: thats what it should be08:18
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frojndAshex|Work: don't know if I paste it all before :S http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11208/08:18
soulriderlet me see if it compiles that way08:18
blue|palmsoulrider: on unix systems you have to return an int from your function08:18
soulrideri see08:19
blue|palmsoulrider: or on linux you have to at least :)08:19
blue|palmsoulrider: this applies to the main function08:19
soulrideruhm im still getting some errors08:19
frojndAshex|Work: me idiot, this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11210/08:19
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Ashex|Workfrojnd, ah, confused me for a second :p08:19
soulriderand theres no binary08:19
tuxligoKDE: Enjoy The Experence!08:20
soulriderblue|palm: theres actually a crapload of errors :P08:20
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blue|palmsoulrider: so KISS : (Keep it simple stupid) start with something really simple08:20
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wolferinesthis is right after a new install btw08:20
blue|palmsoulrider: do this #include <iostream>08:20
Ashex|Workfrojnd, what was that first one?08:20
soulriderblue|palm: its the tutorial i got from the site :P08:20
blue|palmsoulrider: int main(void){08:20
blue|palmsoulrider: int sum = 1+2;08:21
frojndAshex|Work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11207/08:21
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blue|palmsoulrider: std::cout << sum << std::endl;08:21
blue|palmsoulrider: return 0;08:21
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blue|palmsoulrider: }08:21
wolferineshelp with my mouse, anyone?08:21
tuxligoChilean, let's go to UBUNTU CHILE #ubuntu-cl08:21
tuxligoChilenos, vamos a Ubuntu Chile #ubuntu-cl08:22
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blue|palmsoulrider: pick up a good book :)08:22
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soulriderblue|palm: wont work or something =/08:23
blue|palmsoulrider: my advice08:23
Ashex|Workfrojnd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11211/08:23
soulriderthinking in c++? :P08:23
blue|palmsoulrider: hehe, i know of it, but i never used it08:23
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blue|palmsoulrider: I picked up a SAMS teach yourself C++ book, but in some countries those can be really expensive08:23
frojndAshex|Work: tnx08:23
frojndlemme reboot08:23
blue|palmsoulrider: like in mine08:23
Ashex|Workfrojnd, no problem :)08:23
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soulriderblue|palm: probably here :P08:24
mjungoHi folks Im struggeling to share my printer from a kubuntu pc to another kubuntu pc (both 6.10) I use the printer system settings tool. All goes ok until it asks for a password and non work. All docs point to ubuntu and that uses different tools. Can anyone help please.08:24
soulriderwolferines: i got no idea about your mouse problem, you might wanna search the forums08:24
blue|palmsoulrider: look for a tutorial on basic linux programming08:24
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wolferinessure08:24
wolferinesweird that it happens right after a new install08:25
mrp193I just installed i386 and i am trying to download nvidia graphics card driver... is Linux IA32 the correct driver to DL?08:25
soulriderblue|palm: i only had one class, so its not like im not gonna learn it eventually :P08:25
soulridermrp193: dont get them fromt he nvidia site08:25
mrp193no?08:25
soulriderno08:25
mrp193what should i do?08:25
soulrideris this the first time you sue ubuntu?08:25
mrp193yes08:25
mrp193im a noob08:25
soulriderah, i thought so08:25
mrp193first time ive ever used linux period.08:25
soulriderno problem man, were here to help08:25
mrp193ty08:25
blue|palmsoulrider: i just compiled what i gave to u08:25
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blue|palmsoulrider: it works fine08:26
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bobdhicksNewbe needs help. I'm trying to install a program. I click in KBE and i guess Adapt comes up. Can't get any programs into it. How do I do it?08:26
soulridertheres a thing we have here thats called repositories, windows doesnt have it, ebcause it sucks :P08:26
blue|palmsoulrider: using g++ i get the standard a.out file :)08:26
mrp193okay repositories.... what are they and how do i use them?08:26
soulridermrp193: basically, theres TONS of software in servers that you can download and install with a songle command08:26
mrp193oh yeah?08:26
soulrideryup08:26
soulriderdo this08:26
soulriderpress alt + space and type08:26
soulrideradept08:26
mrp193is something supposed to come up when i press alt + space?08:27
soulrideruhm, maybe it doesnt08:27
soulriderok, dont worry, hold on a sec08:27
mrp193should i open terminal?08:27
soulriderno, do this08:27
mrp193k08:27
soulriderk menu > system > adept manager08:27
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mrp193i cant find adept manager08:28
soulrideruhm, youre using Ubuntu or Kubuntu ?08:28
mrp193ubuntu08:28
soulriderahh08:28
wolferinessynaptic08:28
soulriderlook for synaptiv08:28
soulridersynaptic*08:29
wolferinesmaybe its not added in your menu08:29
blue|palmsoulrider: do you get an a.out file when you call gcc filename.cpp?08:29
mrp193wait, before i do anything should i use kubuntu?08:29
wolferinesedit your menu listing to display08:29
mrp193or is ubuntu okay?08:29
soulriderblue|palm: i got a ile called s.out08:29
blue|palmsoulrider: thats good08:29
soulriderubuntu is ok08:29
soulriderthe difference in kubuntu08:29
blue|palmsoulrider: call ./s.ou08:29
wolferinesmrp193: you mean use Gnome (ubuntu) or KDE (kubuntu)08:29
blue|palmsoulrider: call ./s.out08:29
soulrideris the graphical enviroment08:29
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mjungoMay I politely ask for som help with getting my printe shared in KDE/kubuntu 6.10, please08:29
mrp193synaptic?08:30
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soulrideryup, synaptic08:30
wolferinesmjungo: u using Samba?08:30
mrp193im in it08:30
blue|palmsoulrider: its working then if you get a .out file08:30
soulriderblue|palm: that works! :P08:30
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soulriderawesome mrp19308:30
blue|palmsoulrider: thats your .exe in windows terminology08:30
blue|palmsoulrider: your executable :)08:30
soulriderwith synaptic you can search and download stuff fromt he repositories!08:30
wolferinesnew install #4 :/08:30
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soulrideryeah blue|palm08:30
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blue|palmsoulrider: happy C++ coding and welcome to the best power-language on the planet :)08:31
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soulridermrp193: basically wheny ou wanna install something, you use synaptic08:31
soulriderthanks blue|palm :)08:31
blue|palmsoulrider: np :)08:31
soulridermrp193: want me to guide you via PM? i gety confused on this channel :P08:31
mrp193sure08:31
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wolferineswhat OEM mode in a new install?08:32
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blue|palmCan anyone tell me that their kde performance in kubuntu is shocking? Like mine? The rendering and loading times of applications like konqueror is pathetic, and navigating in konqueror is soooo much slower than in nautilus, yet I am addicted to KDE and cannot use gnome :(08:33
wolferinesblue: when did it start happening?08:34
blue|palmIs there anything i can do about it?08:34
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blue|palmwolferines: hmm... id say after I got my ati drivers working properly08:34
blue|palmwolferines: I think it could be that...08:34
alcan anyoune help me with jack and alsa configuration?08:34
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alerhm, please?08:34
wolferinescan you check your fps wtih glxgears?08:34
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blue|palmwolferines: ok will do08:35
blue|palmwolferines: I have direct rendering etc. because I can run an xgl session with beryl (which i dont use)08:35
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wolferinesdid u ever have beryl running?08:36
blue|palmwolferines: yes, I occasionally do go into it08:37
blue|palmwolferines: Its a seperate session to the one i usually run08:37
blue|palm7723 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1544.600 FPS08:37
mjungoplease can soneone help me with installing a shared printer on kubuntu 10.6, please08:37
wolferineswith an ATI card08:37
blue|palmwhich shows that my card is running08:37
blue|palmfine08:37
wolferineswell, those are high fps08:37
blue|palmwolferines: yes08:37
blue|palmwolferines: exactly08:37
wolferinesso the 3D is working08:37
blue|palmwolferines: yes08:37
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wolferineswell, its something with the 2D or your ps08:37
wolferinescheck your processes using ps -A08:38
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blue|palmwolferines: Which is why I cant understand the poor kde performance (compared to gnome on the same machine) and of course I hate gnome....08:38
wolferinesthen if thats not it, look for 2D issues with your card08:38
wolferinesu use beryl in KDE?08:38
blue|palmwolferines: yes08:38
blue|palmwolferines: Is that a problem?08:38
wolferinessorry, I am just amazed08:38
wolferineslol08:38
blue|palmwolferines: lol08:38
blue|palmwolferines: it wasnt that bad08:39
mjungowhat is the default username and password on a newly installed Kubuntu cups system? please I am getting nuts here.08:39
blue|palmwolferines: it was quite easy08:39
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wolferineswell, I bought a new nvidia, just because it took me more than 2 days to setup08:39
mrp193what is artsmessage?08:39
blue|palmwolferines: I spoke to the beryl developers (I am a developer :) ) to find out how beryl works and worked from there, I love programs like beryl08:39
wolferinesand now I am on my forth new install or the OS08:39
blue|palmwolferines: wow, im gonna reinstall only for feisty08:39
wolferinesdid you compile the source then blue?08:40
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wolferiness/the/from/08:40
blue|palmwolferines: I have both beryl-svn binaries and beryl-svn compiled on my OS on different sessions08:40
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wolferineswell, you obviously know much more than me08:41
blue|palmwolferines: performance is the same, which i why I love ubuntu/kubuntu so much :)08:41
blue|palmwolferines: lol08:41
wolferineshope you find a resolution08:41
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blue|palmwolferines: only from a developers perspective... im still a linux noob :) (I started using it about 20 days ago)08:41
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wolferineswhat languages?08:41
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blue|palmwolferines: C++, Java, Python, BASIC08:42
wolferineshehe08:42
mjungohello please can someone help me with a printing problem in kubuntu08:42
wolferinesbasic eh?08:42
mrp193i am back08:42
blue|palmwolferines: also C and C++.net08:42
blue|palmwolferines: yeah BASIC was what I learned first08:42
wolferinesanything fun though?08:42
blue|palmwolferines: yeah... I make games in my spare time :)08:42
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wolferinesah, nice08:42
blue|palmwolferines: not that I get much free time these days08:42
wolferinestried to program an atari once08:42
wolferineswasnt too successful08:42
blue|palmwolferines: hehe08:42
mrp193okay08:43
wolferinesits hard outputting the result to a screen, never realized it was so difficult08:43
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blue|palmwolferines: if there is anything I want to add to the linux community... it would be to get some decent recent and modern 3D games exclusive to linux08:43
wolferinesyeah08:43
wolferinesbut wine is out there08:43
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blue|palmwolferines: true08:43
blue|palmwolferines: But we still suffer performance cuts08:43
blue|palmwolferines: about 10%08:44
wolferinesright08:44
mjungoIm still stuggeling for my second computer to print to the printer on my first one both have kubuntu please, please help!08:44
wolferineswell, ill let you get back to your issue08:44
blue|palmwolferines: imagine making a game free for download as a linux binary and selling it for windows and mac :)08:44
wolferineshehe08:44
blue|palmwolferines: That would be evil :)08:44
blue|palmwolferines: but productive08:44
wolferinesor is it genius?08:44
wolferineslol08:44
blue|palmwolferines: lol08:44
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blue|palmwolferines: how many processes do you have running?08:45
wolferinesone, the installer :)08:45
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blue|palmwolferines: lol08:45
wrhowcelow08:45
blue|palmwolferines: your reinstalling08:45
soulrider!easysource08:45
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:45
wolferinesyeah08:45
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wolferineshaving a few issues here08:46
blue|palmwolferines: well im going to go watch tv on my mythtv powered media centre :) cya08:46
mjungoGUS: someone point me to a Kubuntu docu about sharing a printer in KDE PLEASE.08:46
wolferineslater08:46
m_tadeuhi there08:46
wolferinesmjungo: u using Samba?08:46
m_tadeuis there a cervisia like application for svn?08:46
wrhowcwhy doesn't my kubuntu auto connects to internet08:47
wolferineswrhowc new install?08:47
wrhowcyes08:47
wolferinesdid you setup your internet during the install?08:47
wrhowcbit first time i installed it08:47
wrhowcit worked08:47
mjungowolferines I use a standard Kubutu install.10.6. The printing system is cups. The rpinter is runing ok on the first pc. Samba is installed but i dont know if it is running.08:48
wrhowcbut now it doesn't08:48
soulrider!paste08:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:48
wolferinesmjungo: well,do you have any other systems on your LAN, and you can view them?08:48
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Naradaanyone able to tell how to compile subversion on ubuntu i.e. what the with-apxs= and --with-apache= values will be?08:48
wrhowcwindows? yes08:48
wrhowcbut i can configure eth008:49
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wrhowcif i connect it manualy works fine08:49
wrhowci mean to internet08:49
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Ashex|WorkNarada, why don't you just use apt to install subversion?08:49
mjungowolferines: Im a bit a newbie. So please bare with me. There are two systems on the LAN. once called server one called client108:49
m_tadeuwrhowc: do you have the connect at startup flag on?08:49
NaradaAshex|Work: versions are ancient08:50
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frojndAshex|Work: while u gave me those instructions.. the name are switched..08:50
mjungowolferines: the server hass the USB printer installed and running fine.08:50
Ashex|Workfrojnd, my mistake08:50
frojndAshex|Work: and do I have to edit menu.lst on both kernels?08:50
mjungowolferines: now the clinet should use the same printer.08:50
wolferinesmjungo: u might want to just answer my questions08:50
Ashex|Workfrojnd, you can just rename with nano08:50
wrhowcflag on? im new so08:50
wolferinesmight make it alot easier08:50
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Ashex|Workfrojnd, only the one your booting off of08:50
frojndAshex|Work: how do u specify that'08:51
mjungowolferines: what do you mean by other system and what by vieing them?08:51
m_tadeuwrhowc: on the system settings go to the network settings08:51
Ashex|Workfrojnd, bios boot priority08:51
mjungowolferines: Viewing with what?08:51
wolferinessorry, I dont think I can help you mjungo08:51
m_tadeuwrhowc: enter to  administrator mode08:51
c0nv1ctmjungo: what OS is the server with the printer using?08:51
wrhowcwhere08:52
mjungoKubuntu 10.608:52
frojndAshex|Work: root            (hd0,0)08:52
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frojndtjat means that this kernel's menu is in charge?08:52
m_tadeuwrhowc: double click on the eth008:52
c0nv1ctmjungo: and you are connecting using a linux client as well?08:52
Ashex|Workfrojnd, more or less. It states the location of the root partition08:52
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Ashex|Workdisk 0 partition 008:52
m_tadeuwrhowc: and check the activate when the computer starts08:52
mjungoc0nvlct: yes it is an identical install Kubuntu10.6 on the clinet as well.08:53
wrhowcok08:53
wrhowcthat was cheked08:53
c0nv1ctmjungo: ok, and have you setup CUPS on the server?08:53
wrhowci leave the auto?08:53
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mjungoc0nvlct: When I use the System settings printing applet I get as far as seeing the printer on the server machine but then it asks for a username and password and noen on the sytedm seem to work.08:53
m_tadeuwrhowc: yep leave it08:53
mjungoc0nvlct: yes cups is up and running fire ont he server.08:54
wrhowchum08:54
wrhowcok08:54
c0nv1ctmjungo: do you need it to authenticate? or would it be ok to set it up so anyone on the network can print?08:54
mjungoc0nvlct: As I said ist is an out of the box install.08:54
wrhowci'll go and try it08:55
wrhowcbrb08:55
frojndhm now I have problems with mounting partitions,08:55
mjungoc0nvlct: Kubuntu uses the cups system by defaut am I right.08:55
wrhowc1 question08:55
frojndfdisk -l shows that there is /dev/sda1/08:55
frojnd/dev/sda108:55
frojndbut I can't mount it08:55
wrhowcgateway08:55
mjungoc0nvlct: If would be good to set it up so anyone can print08:55
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wrhowchas some problem08:55
c0nv1ctmjungo: yes i believe so, but there is some configuring that needs to be done08:55
frojnd/dev/sda1/ is also disk 0 partition 0 and has GRUB in charge..08:56
m_tadeuwrhowc: what do you mean?08:56
wrhowcThe default Gateway IP address is invalid08:56
mjungoc0nvlct: any documentation for this?08:56
mjungoc0nvlct: or can you coach me though it,please08:56
c0nv1ctmjungo: i'm looking for it, i just setup CUPS at another location, i cant find the docs i used08:56
m_tadeuwrhowc: do yo have a direct connection or you're using a router?08:56
wrhowcdirect08:56
wrhowcno ruter i use switch08:57
wrhowcnot router08:57
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m_tadeuwrhowc: anyhow i think you have to set the switch ip as your gateway08:57
mjungoc0nvlct: I find that most docs go to a ubuntu setup and somehow it does not equeate.08:57
wrhowcand that is?08:57
wrhowci don't have any ip08:58
frojndcan someone tell me why, I can't mount /dev/sda1 here is fdisk -l output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11220/08:58
wrhowcevery vomputer has it's own08:58
wolferineswhy would a new install change from previous installs, this last one, all my icons in my drop-down menus are missing, where they werent before08:58
m_tadeuwrhowc: do you know the ip of your switch?08:58
wolferinesand my mouse is acting strange as well08:58
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mjungoc0nvlct: what would be the cups username and password on a new kubuntu install. It seems not one of my users or the root/sudo password do it.09:00
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c0nv1ctmjungo: are you able to browse directly to the CUPS server?09:00
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c0nv1ctmjungo: use a web browser i mean09:01
Ashex|Workfrojnd, it may already be mounted09:01
mjungoyes from server as well as clinet in firefox using 192.168.0.7:36109:01
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Ashex|Workfrojnd, type mount to check09:01
Ashex|Workdf -h works too09:02
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Ashex|Workah, he left09:02
Ashex|Workoh well09:02
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mars^Hi. What is the name of vista looking window decoration on new Kubuntu?09:02
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mars^Hi. What is the name of vista looking window decoration on new Kubuntu?09:04
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mars^i have it09:04
mars^thanks09:04
kaner_Is there  a good/simple way to setup a webproxy server on an kubuntu box? i already have a working apache install. im talking something similar to "the-cloak.com"09:04
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Ashex|Workkaner_, phproxy?09:07
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m_tadeuis there a frontend to svn?09:07
wrhowc_back09:09
kaner_hrm, ill look into it, thanks09:09
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frutaxi'm having trouble with usb devices automounting (printer, external drives). it's happening on more than one usb port though, and sometimes a reboot will fix this...sound like a software problem or a hardware problem?09:16
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soulridermrp193: tell me when youre looking at this channel09:24
mrp193i am09:24
soulriderk, you can ask stuff like how to install mp3 support for example09:25
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:25
soulriderand the bot gives you tutorials09:25
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wolferines!nvidia09:25
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:25
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ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead09:26
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:31
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devilsadvocatehow  do i recoonfigure xorg?09:33
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rstancadevilsadvocate: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:34
devilsadvocatethanks rstanca09:35
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alCan anyone help me with jackd installation, please?09:37
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Kr4t05Can someone tell me how I can write a macro that will simulate a CTRL+T press every few seconds?09:39
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wolferinesanyone good with Nvidia Twinview setup?09:42
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soulriderwolferines: i used it a couple of times and it worked great!09:44
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wolferineshow did you get it working?09:44
wolferinesedit the xorg.conf manually?09:44
wolferinesor just use nvidia-xconfig ?09:44
binksanyone no how to install an epson r220 as the drivers not in the list09:45
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jhutchinsbinks: Check epson.com, they may have one.09:45
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jhutchinsbinks: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R20009:46
binksits in the gutenprint package but i cant get it to show up in the list where are the pdd files held09:47
jhutchinsbinks: man locate09:48
binksin edgy its fine but im testing fiesty and it appears to be back to warty printer setup09:48
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meme-2Any idea why I keep getting disconnected..... more so... why I get a nick error each time I reconnect?09:52
meme-2ah... IRC thinks I am still connected as meme-109:52
jhutchinsmeme-2: The nic error is because of a ghost nic - the server thinks your nic is still logged in.09:53
meme-2yep... just saw that.09:53
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jhutchinsYep.09:53
ChetwinHow can I get the Kde Wallet to work how it is supposed to?  it stores my passwords the first time around, but never auto populates what it's supposed to.  I'm always asked to re-enter my passwords09:53
meme-2Anyone familiar with making K3b work with Ubuntu? It fails every time with "unable to WRITE@LBA=0h: input/output error" - I believe this is a "not being in root" issue.. But darnit! I am the only person who uses this computer. I believe I need to lauch k3b as "kdesu k3b" - correct?09:54
Chetwinmeme-2: yes09:54
ChetwinLaunch it as root every time and you'll be golden09:54
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jhutchinsShouldn't.  Run the k3b setup script.09:54
ChetwinAll the yapp about adding a burning group and then adding yourself is a crap shute09:55
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xbesnardHello, I search for help for installing a LEADTEK DTV2000H (analog/DVB-T&Radio tuner with Conexant CX23880 chipset) with Kubuntu Dapper (kernel 2.6.15-26-386). With LSPCI and modprobe, it looks fine but it doesnt work. Do I need to recompile the kernel. thanks for the answer. Xav09:55
Chetwinjhutchins: that doesn't work for some of us09:55
ChetwinJust inlucky09:55
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ChetwinHow can I get the Kde Wallet to work how it is supposed to?  it stores my passwords the first time around, but never auto populates what it's supposed to.  I'm always asked to re-enter my passwords09:55
meme-2But what about launching from the desktop? What properties do I need to change?  Chg access from read only to read/write?09:55
jhutchins!repeat | Chetwin09:56
DaSkreech!rrooted09:56
ubotuChetwin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rrooted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
DaSkreech!rrootage09:56
xbesnardfor my information, what is the problem with DTV2000H?  Does i work with Edgy?09:56
uboturrootage: arcade-style space shooting game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.23a-4 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 240 kB09:56
jhutchinsmeme-2: Have you tried the k3bsetup script?09:57
Chetwinjhutchins: that doesn't work for some of us09:57
DaSkreechBlinking rrootage09:57
DaSkreechIt kills my KDe session09:57
jhutchinsChetwin: You said that.09:57
meme-2jhutchins: I used synoptic to install.... I will look 4 and at the script09:58
Chetwinjhutchins: Yah, cuz everyone always comes with "Add the burning group and add user to the group.  Or use k3bsetup2 to make it work."  That doesn't help some of us09:58
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jhutchinsChetwin: Then you have other problems.09:58
ChetwinMaybe so, but I just run as root and it works.09:59
meme-2jhutchins: thx found it09:59
DaSkreech!bugs09:59
jhutchinsChetwin: Which release are you on?  Did you upgrade or clean install?09:59
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots09:59
ChetwinClean install of Edgy09:59
jhutchinsWhat's the owner & group of the CD device?09:59
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ChetwinI have about 90% of the things I need working09:59
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ChetwinI don't know, but the simple answers that I listed before don't work for me10:00
jhutchinsChetwin: There are good reasons not to run things as root.  This isn't windows.10:00
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Chetwinjhutchins: I completely agree with you.  However, linux isn't perfect.  (i.e. my kde wallet issue)10:01
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Chetwinjhutchins: Once in a while my knetworkmanager crashes on me and I have to force quit it and reload it10:01
binksarr jhutchins the gutenptint driver was installed but not the printer database in adept fs10:01
jhutchinsThat's exactly the kind of issue that can come from running the wrong thing as root.10:01
meme-2jhutchins: no burning group set... but what if I put in admin? Permissions on DVD are 660 root.admin10:01
Chetwinjhutchins: Are you refferring to my wallet issue?10:02
jhutchinsmeme-2: The actual device (/dev/hdc in my case) should be root:cdrom.10:03
jhutchinsChetwin: Yes.10:04
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Chetwin jhutchins: I'm not running the wallet as root10:04
jhutchinsChetwin: Wallet doesn't work correctly for me either, but I tried to disable it, so it's probably something I did.10:04
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jhutchinsmeme-2: ls -l /dev/dvd should show you which device it's pointing to.10:04
Chetwinjhutchins: I don't understand how that relates to my issue10:05
jhutchinsI dislike wallet, it's too much of a Windows copycat thing for me.10:05
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meme-2jhutchins: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-03-19 16:24 /dev/dvd -> hdb10:05
jhutchinsChetwin: When you run things as root, files you change or create - sometimes without knowing it - are owned by root and can't be changed by the user.10:05
Chetwinjhutchins: I would like an alternative to entering my password everytime10:05
DASkreechShould I use launchpad for universe bugs?10:06
jhutchinsmeme-2: So what counts is the actual owner/group of /dev/hdb10:06
Chetwinjhutchins: I prefer wallet over keyring simply because I don't want to enter a password to use my passwords.  Seems totally redundant10:06
jhutchinsChetwin: So would I.10:06
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ChetwinOkay all, I'm off like a prom dress10:06
jhutchinsChetwin: Strange, I always have to enter a password to start wallet.10:06
Chetwinjhutchins: You can choose to leave it blank the first time, only gnome keyring complains about not setting a password10:07
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Chetwinjhutchins: Or maybe you're the one running things as root ;-)10:07
jhutchinsChetwin: Perhaps this is why it doesn't work for you.  For me, it wants my account password.10:07
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jhutchinsChetwin: No, I actually told two programs not to use it, but kubuntu hard-codes some stuff to force it.  I think that's why it breaks.10:08
Chetwinjhutchins: Works in other distros just fine and in previous versions of kubuntu10:08
jhutchinsChetwin: Worked perfectly on my older Mandriva installs, but I disabled it.  Worked in Gentoo as well.10:08
jhutchinsChetwin: File a bugreport yet?10:09
Chetwinjhutchins: I'm gonna look into the forums when I get back home10:09
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Chetwinjhutchins: Bug reports are a crap shute too.  Every one that I've filed has gotten an automatic response from bugzilla and then nothing else for months.  Waste of time10:09
ChetwinI really have to run tho10:09
DASkreech!soun10:09
DASkreech!sound10:09
ChetwinBe back in a couple hours10:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:09
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:09
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meme-2 jhutchins: Thx again... looks like it is working. But it is mildly annoying that I must enter my password each time I launch k3b. :-] 10:12
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mirekhej :)10:13
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jhutchinsChetwin: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro10:14
jhutchinsmeme-2: Hm, yes, that would be annoying.  Not sure why it's doing that.10:15
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jhutchinsmeme-2: Which release?10:15
Phoenix92xhiya, um..Im getting an odd error. I try to ping anything I get "connect: No buffer space available" I cant get to websites either, torrents work fine though. message remains unchanged regardless of network load10:16
DASkreechhow can I tell if a process is actually doing work or is in a busy wait?10:16
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: What kind of network adapter do you have?10:17
jhutchinsDASkreech: top, ps.10:17
jhutchinsps ax being the most common usage.10:17
Phoenix92xrealtek something or other10:17
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: Wireless? Cat5?10:17
Phoenix92xsorry for the vagueness, I havn't had a problem with it in the 3 years Ive had it10:17
Phoenix92xoh, its a wired card10:17
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Phoenix92xcat5e cable's in it now10:17
Aloneaok, I had to leave unexpectedly a couple days ago and I was trying to get amarok to work. something about permissions getting messed up. When I load the program it says "Updating Database" and then goes away.10:18
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meme-2jhutchins: can't tell you right now... it's burning a dvd... strange that I cannot access the menus.10:18
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: I take it you've rebooted?10:18
jhutchinsmeme-2: That's normal.  The burn process hasn't returned control to the program.10:18
DASkreechIt's been using 89% for a while now10:18
Phoenix92xjhutchins: yep10:19
jhutchinsmeme-2: by release I meant of kubuntu - edgy, feisty?10:19
Aloneaalso, the battery symbol in my taskbar is missing. how do I get it back?10:19
jhutchinsDASkreech: What'st the process?10:19
DASkreechkspread10:19
meme-2jhutchins: Oh... sorry.. edgy!10:19
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jhutchinsDASkreech: What's it supposed to be doing?  Opening a file?  Running a macro?10:20
meme-2jhutchins: re: normal.... so that is another Windows vs Linux thing I have to get used to? lol10:20
DASkreechNever mind it jsut stopped10:20
Phoenix92xit stops giving the error on and off, and I can't figure out why10:20
DASkreechjhutchins: It's opening a folder of CSV files10:20
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DASkreechjhutchins: I think I know why it's asking for the passwor10:21
jhutchinsPhoenix92x: Sounds like a driver or hardware error, or something like being actually out of ram.10:21
DASkreechmeme-2: you probably are not in the right group10:21
Phoenix92x...that would be most odd...given that Its running with 2 GB and I dont have that much running...10:22
meme-2DASkreech: right group?10:22
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Phoenix92xinteresting10:22
DASkreechmeme-2: Yeah I don't recall ever having to put in my password10:22
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DASkreech I'm betting there is a cdrw group or something that you have to be a part of to burn seamlessly10:22
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meme-2DASkreech: According to what I've just read... apparently that is expected behavior (using kdesu k3b)10:23
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sozialarsch~wacko wacko10:23
JontyAny way to get detailed information about installed debs?10:23
jhutchinsDASkreech: think it's "cdrom" on kubuntu.10:24
meme-2It isn't that important as long as it works.10:24
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jhutchinsmeme-2: Did you run that k3bsetup script?10:24
bimmelcan somone tell me how to start a cpp programm in console? i used g++ programm.cpp -o programm.o10:24
bimmelhow can i start the program?10:24
meme-2jhutchins: yes10:24
jhutchinsmeme-2: That _should_ make it possible to start without the password.10:25
DASkreechmeme-2: Oh yeah if you are openeing k3b with kdesu10:25
DASkreechThough technically you can get it to stop doing that as well10:25
meme-2Hmmm.... must have done something wrong.... but it does work and I am happy for that. :-)10:25
DASkreech it's just not very secure10:25
meme-2I will look more in depth later.10:25
DASkreechJonty: dpkg -l I think10:25
D_Edbimmel: chmod a+x programm.o then ./programm.o10:25
meme-2It was important to get this demo DVD burned for the moment.10:26
jhutchinsmeme-2: We could work it out now.10:26
D_Edbimmel: though I stronly reccommend using an IDE (kdevelop) if it's going to be a larger program than just one file10:26
bimmelthx D_Ed10:26
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jhutchinsmeme-2: ls -l /dev/cdrw10:27
JontyDASkreech: I'm really wanting to look at the dependencies10:27
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meme-2But K3b seems quite slow or is that my imagination? 4.3GB in 16 minutes.  And the darn verify just failed! One moment jhutchins... need to find out why???10:27
soulrider!klauncher10:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about klauncher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:27
DASkreechJonty: try apt:/10:27
Jontycheers10:28
meme-2jhutchins: results: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-03-19 16:24 /dev/cdrw -> hdb10:28
Jontywow, haven't seen this before10:28
meme-2pretty much the same as the DVD10:28
jhutchinsmeme-2: Ok, now ls -l /dev/hdb10:28
D_Edjhutchins: the k3b setup utility should fix all permissions10:29
jhutchinsmeme-2: Oh, sorry, we do want the actual hd? device for the burner.10:29
jhutchinsD_Ed: Should, but apparently didn't.10:29
DASkreechsoulrider: klauncher?10:30
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D_Edjhutchins: ok, sorry was jumping in halfway through a conv.10:30
soulriderDASkreech: someone asked me aobut it and i dont really know what it is10:30
jhutchinsD_Ed: Had another guy here who had a similar problem, script didn't work for him.10:30
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soulriderso i asked the bot if there wa a pckage called like that10:31
DASkreechsoulrider: maybe they mean krunner?10:31
soulriderhe said klauncher10:31
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DASkreechok10:31
DASkreechHi claydoh10:31
claydohhola DASkreech10:32
jhutchinsmeme-2: Well, hope somebody's around when you decide to fix it.10:32
Aloneaso, how do I know if the power thingie is installed or not?10:33
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JohnFlux_how do I get my dhcp server to not give an IP to myself ? :)10:36
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meme-2jhutchins: thanks for the continued help. results of ls -l /dev/hdb : brw-rw---- 1 root admin 3, 64 2007-03-19 16:24 /dev/hdb10:39
meme-2BTW K3b did burn successfully but not sure why the verification failed.10:40
meme-2failed on not finding the 1st file in the compare.10:40
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tyronehello everypeople10:41
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tyroneI just got kubuntu... it took a while to get used to, but it rocks!10:41
tyronemy one question is, where can i get a program to convert .rpm files to .tar.gz?10:41
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meme-2tyrone: chk this out: http://www.slackware.com/config/packages.php10:43
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meme-2tyrone: chk this out too: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/70992-converting-tar-gz-archive-deb.html10:43
jhutchinstyrone: Why would you do that?10:44
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jhutchinstyrone: The original tarball should be available if you look for it, or you can get the .src.rmp, but that's irrelevant to kubuntu10:44
meme-2jhutchins: actually.... can't ubuntu read rpm... pretty sure it can handle them10:45
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coreymon77alien10:46
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ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)10:46
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frojndwhy I can't use kate: here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11244/10:47
meme-2That must have been what I read (re: alien)10:47
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jhutchins!kdesu | frojnd10:48
ubotufrojnd: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo10:48
jhutchinsmeme-2: The problem is that kubuntu does some basic system level things very differently than RPM based systems.10:49
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SolidSourceso, I take it that they aren't putting k3b 1.0 into edgy repos any time soon10:49
frojnd!gksudo10:50
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 10:50
frojnddon't get it10:50
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frojndif I wanna create file "index.php" I use kdesu index.php and thatn it asks me to write my pass... and than it says command index.php not found..10:51
Aloneafrojnd: I have never gotten gksudo to work...10:51
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SolidSourcegksudo = ubuntu10:51
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SolidSourcekdesu = kubuntu10:52
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yacoobwhat's the deal with firefox' menu decolorize on mouse movement? :((10:52
frojndSolidSource: so If I wanna create fole index.php (I must have root access) how can I do that?10:52
frojndfole=file10:52
SolidSourcerun "kdesu <app>" and create the file10:53
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frojndSolidSource: kdesu kate ?10:54
SolidSourceyep10:54
SolidSourcekdesu is gksudo for kubuntu10:54
SolidSourceworks the same way10:54
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Aloneaah, ok, didn't know that...was following instructions for something. Now, anyone know how I can get my amarok back to working order?10:55
meme-2okay.... I might be a bit confused.... kdesu vs gksudo - what is the difference?  I am using kdesu on kubuntu successfully. Or... does it matter that my distro began life as ubuntu and morphed itself into kubuntu after I had installed a number of educational prgs from Synoptic?10:56
SolidSourcemost tuts are written for ubuntu...you must change commands to their KDE form for kubuntu10:56
DASkreechmeme-2: If you are using the KDE desktop environment use kdesu10:56
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DASkreech if you re using a gtk based desktop use gksudo10:56
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meme-2DASkreech: I am using Gnome..... oh heck... I am not even sure anymore.... LOL!10:57
meme-2I am only a week into Linux.10:57
DASkreechmeme-2: perss Alt+space10:57
Jontymeme-2: It doesn't really matter10:57
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DASkreechPress alt+Space10:57
DASkreechIf katapult comes up then you are in Kubuntu Which uses KDE :)10:58
meme-2"Press alt+Space" then what?10:58
meme-2lol10:58
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Jontyok, you don't have katapult. Which proves nothing10:58
DASkreechmeme-2: a easier way is probably alt+F110:58
DASkreechif the menu comes from the bottom it's probably KDE10:58
Jontyalt+F7 to get back10:58
meme-2alt+f1 brings up application menu10:58
DASkreechfrom the top probably Gnom10:58
Jontyoh wait10:58
Jontyno10:58
meme-2from top10:59
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meme-2Gnome... wow, I was right... do I get a prize?10:59
SolidSourceDASkreech: not necessarily...my menus are on the top and I am in kubuntu10:59
DASkreechUnless you've been rearranging the menus :)10:59
Jontyanyway, meme-2, which program you use to excecute as root doesn't really matte10:59
Jontyr..r10:59
Jontyhaha10:59
AloneaOk, when I click on the amarok icon, it does the bouncy symbol thing, but doesn't load. If I load it in the terminal as user it says "Updating database" thing and doesn't load. If I load it in the terminal as root, it loads fine.10:59
DASkreechSolidSource: You haven't been running it for a week10:59
meme-2Nope... heck... I am still poking my way around...11:00
AloneaOk, when I click on the amarok icon, it does the bouncy symbol thing, but doesn't load. If I load it in the terminal as user it says "Updating database" thing and doesn't load. If I load it in the terminal as root, it loads fine.11:00
SolidSourceDASkreech: still...never assume11:00
DASkreechAlonea: You need to redo your database11:00
Jontythe best way to get aquainted with linux is to do an install you knwo you can break :)11:00
DASkreechAlonea: ask in #amarok11:00
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DASkreechSolidSource: I said Probably as well as qualified it with if you haven't been messing with the menus11:00
Aloneasorry about twice...got my channels mixed up11:00
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D_EdAlonea: as root it doesn't know where your collection is as your prefs are different for that user11:01
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D_Edit won't be a permissions thing11:01
DASkreechSolidSource: I could get more authoritative but something easily visual normally helps11:01
kakarottohola11:01
kakarottonecesito ayuda11:01
Alonea!es11:01
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:01
DASkreechlike looking at the help menu to see if it says systems settings11:01
kakarottoXD11:01
meme-2BTW, someone in this group claimed (a few days ago) that Linux is difficult to lock up! I've found a way to get a complete freeze up where power cycling is required.11:02
orient2000call amarok from konsole and you will see all errors11:02
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jhutchinsmeme-2: It's possible.11:03
jhutchinsmeme-2: It's easier to lock the GUI than the actual PC.11:03
devilsadvocatememe-2, its possible. its just a less common occurence11:03
DASkreechmeme-2: Oh I'm pretty sure I can lock up any os11:03
zbenjaminwhat package do i have to install to develop with c++11:03
DASkreechmeme-2: you can sure setup linux to be very functional and still not lock up though11:03
meme-2Unless there is some trick that I don't know of.... mouse still moved but everything else stopped (clock, etc.)11:03
devilsadvocatezbenjamin, build-essential11:03
DASkreechmeme-2: Could you press Alt+F1 ?11:03
jhutchinsmeme-2: If the mouse moved there was hope!11:03
DASkreechAlt+Ctrl+F1 ?11:03
devilsadvocatememe-2, in that case it wasnt a complete lock up. you probably couldve killed the offensive process on another console11:04
jhutchinsIf the numlock/capslock keys turn the LED's on and off, ther's hope.11:04
DASkreechjhutchins: No I've locked up hard and I could still get the mouse to move11:04
jhutchinsDASkreech: Yeah, me too.11:04
DASkreechCouldn't click anything. And keyboard didn't work but the mouse moved around merrily11:04
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zbenjamindevilsadvocate:  thx11:04
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DASkreechjhutchins: point taken though It does inspire hope :)11:04
psygrasshi.. can someone help me please... i am using ubuntu and wanted to use KDE desktop. i used this command (sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop). the problem is that is has finished downloading ( iguess) and stuck at (Preconfiguring packages ...) for aout 20 minutes now. so i am not sure what is wrong11:04
jhutchinsDASkreech: Then I've been able to connect via ssh from another box and fix it, but I've also locked it too hard for that as well.11:04
devilsadvocatezbenjamin, if you want a graphical IDE, you can take a look at kdevelop as well11:05
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Aloneaok, this thing is telling me to make my path to /usr/local/arm-elf/bin so how do I do that?11:05
WhiteRose1psygrass, you can probably stop it and start it again11:05
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psygrasswhiterose1: thanx...but there is not danger of getting things stuck in the middle?11:06
WhiteRose1psygrass, when downloading? No11:06
shoxihello11:06
devilsadvocatepsygrass, that can be corrected for in any case with a -f11:06
DASkreechjhutchins: Should I use launchpad to report universe package bugs?11:06
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zbenjamindevilsadvocate: do i have to use apt-get ?11:06
devilsadvocate(or s it -a.. ?)11:06
shoxigerman people here?11:06
DASkreech!de11:07
devilsadvocatezbenjamin, yep11:07
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:07
zbenjaminshoxi:  yes11:07
WhiteRose1I think it's -a11:07
devilsadvocate!build-essential | zbenjamin11:07
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ubotuzbenjamin: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:07
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meme-2ha ha ha.... you folks are gonna love this newbie move... I tried ALT-CTRL-F1 and didn't know how the heck to get out of there! Exit (as per windows) just brought up a login prompt!  Good thing I have another computer and good thing I know how to Google!11:08
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meme-2I am finally back!11:08
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zbenjamini know how to compile stuff but i'm new to kubuntu11:08
progekI get this error trying to start kxdocker-> http://progek.homelinux.net:8080/test/help.png  Any ideas?11:08
devilsadvocatezbenjamin, sudo apt-get install build-essential .  after that is doe, the usual gcc and g++ will work on the command line11:09
jhutchinsmeme-2: Unlike Windows, where you run the console from within the GUI, linux runs the console as a native app, like a layer beneath the GUI.  You can shut down the GUI and have a text-only system.11:09
jhutchinsmeme-2: You can also do pretty much everything from the console, including graphics display (and editing).11:10
Hasrat_USAgood evening11:10
Cugelmeme-2: which is good -- because you can restart the windows-like GUI without rebooting. Well I like that.11:10
progekanyone know of a good alternate for kxdocker besides kiba-dock?11:10
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meme-2Jhutchins: I am definately curious... I will attempt to see if that consistent lockup" with Scorched 3D11:12
meme-2is really a "lockup"11:12
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alert_hi11:13
alert_anybody here?11:14
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alert_i have question about kubuntu...11:14
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CugelYes?11:15
CugelThere are about 350 people here to help you.11:15
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alert_i have problem with russian locale after distro upgrade...11:15
alert_upgrade from 6.06 to 6.1011:16
alert_the main problem - Java apps now not working with russian UTF-811:16
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DASkreechHmm11:17
alert_Java apps - jEdit, Sun Studio Enterprise11:17
DASkreech!ru11:17
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke11:17
DASkreech:-)11:17
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alert_hm?11:17
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alert_and in Konsole all is OK, but in system console and urxvt - can see russian, but can't write11:19
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chuck_i'm having trouble starting x when using the nvidia driver (though it worked yesterday). does anyone know what log file the error would be in from a failed "startx"?11:23
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Trickser2hi, i am having problems with my wpa connection. I am using knetworkmanager and i lost every 5 seconds the connection, although it normally works well. In windows it does not happen11:24
LJLchuck_: i guess /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:24
Trickser2any ideas?11:24
chuck_wow, didn't even see that11:24
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chuck_thanks LJL11:25
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frojndwhat packages do I have to install for compyling?11:27
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LJL!build-essential > frojnd    (frojnd, see the private message from Ubotu)11:29
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Dimphey11:36
DimpDistro: Ubuntu 6.10 Linux. System: Pentium 4, 3.2 Ghz, 1.5 gb ddr, 6600 Geforce OC. Problem: "Warning:ipx_socket:port:27015 bind:WSAEINVAL". Info: Connecting to game server via Counter Strike.11:36
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Dimp=( can anyone help me ?11:37
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bAstidraZormorning11:37
Dimpgood morning11:37
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Dimpcan anyone help me =(11:38
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Dimpcan anyone help me?11:40
mervteckwhat you need Dimp11:41
mervteckill do my best11:41
DimpDistro: Ubuntu 6.10 Linux. System: Pentium 4, 3.2 Ghz, 1.5 gb ddr, 6600 Geforce OC. Problem: "Warning:ipx_socket:port:27015 bind:WSAEINVAL". Info: Connecting to game server via Counter Strike.11:41
mervteckhmmm11:41
mervtecku running cedega or wine11:41
Dimpwine11:42
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Dimp3311:42
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mervtecksend me an IM11:42
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Dimp?11:43
mervtecklook for an im from me11:44
mervteckand talk to me there11:44
Dimpyes11:44
mervteckk talk to me in there11:44
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Dimpare you getting anything?11:44
mervteckno11:45
DimpI said hello11:45
Dimperr11:45
mervteckdo u have aim or msn11:45
fignewyou need to register your nickname before you can send IMs11:45
Dimpaim11:45
MotorCityMadManusing konqueror for web browsing the words are misplaced (over lapping) is there a fix for the problem ?11:45
DimpI can hear you tho11:45
fignewmervteck: you get cedega working?11:45
mervteckwhats ur aim11:45
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mervteckyes i did fig11:45
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fignew:)11:45
paolo704hi all11:46
coreymon77hi guys11:46
Dimptry tell me ur s in the priv11:46
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mervtecki may need your help with figuring out how to install a patch for BF2 through it thouhg =)11:46
fignewMotorCityMadMan: try making your font smaller11:46
MotorCityMadMantrying now11:46
fignewMotorCityMadMan: my old math teacher had the same name online :)11:46
coreymon77how do you find out what files/folders are taking up lots/the most space on my drive?11:46
fignew!filelight11:46
ubotufilelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB11:47
Dimpgot it11:47
fignew^^ install that :)11:47
mervteckk11:47
mervteckmessage me there11:47
MotorCityMadManfignew| that worked / help i can't see / i can't see / damn bumped my head11:48
MotorCityMadMan:-011:48
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fignewsweet11:51
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cyril_Hi !11:55
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mervteckwho was it that was just talking to me in here11:56
mervtecklike 5 minuets ago11:56
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crackhead_25anyone know how to find the kmfprotocollibrary.xml file instaleld with kmyfirewall??11:57
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crackhead_25how does one find a file or search for a file in kubuntu??12:00
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coreymon77crackhead_25: kmenu--find files/folders12:02
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distroidfsview is the coolest thing ever12:02
distroidto whoever cares12:03
coreymon77hi guys12:04
mervteckhey12:04
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coreymon77you know how when you select text, it automatically copies it to klipper12:05
distroidsup12:05
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distroidklipper is cool like that12:05
coreymon77is it possible to shut that off12:05
distroidhmm12:05
coreymon77a friend of mine wants to shut that off12:05
kakarottoayuda en espaol12:05
coreymon77if possible12:05
distroidwhy12:05
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coreymon77says its a pointless annoyance12:05
distroidpriivacy isssue?12:05
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distroidit will come in handy soon enough get over it12:06
coreymon77!es| kakarotto12:06
ubotukakarotto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:06
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distroidsorry i have no idea how to do that except kill klipper12:08
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coreymon77distroid: there must be a way to shut that off12:08
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distroidor use fluxbox if you want zero pointless annoyance factor12:08
coreymon77distroid: its not me, its someone else12:08
distroidoh yeah12:08
distroidwell lemme check12:08
distroidbrb12:09
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yoavgHello. I have some problem installing kubuntu on my laptop: the CD boots fine, then I see the screen with "start or install kubuntu", "start kubuntu in safe..." etc, but when I choose something, the CD seem to be working (light is on) but nothing else happens -- I'm not getting to a new screen or anything.. Anyone has any idea? can I at least somehow have a non-graphic boot, so I can see...12:11
yoavg...where it hangs?12:11
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crackhead_25yoavg: use the alternate install12:11
crackhead_25(not the typical 386)12:11
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yoavgWhat does it mean?12:12
yoavgDownload a different cd?12:12
crackhead_25download, burn the i386 altenrate install12:12
crackhead_25yes12:12
crackhead_25use that one12:12
crackhead_25in non-graphical12:12
crackhead_25it has a text install option12:12
yoavgok... I'll try that. Thanks.12:12
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