[12:14] <makuseru> sorry for not being psysic and not knowing you like flash
[12:14] <distroid> i like flash too but...
[12:15] <distroid> ur rite no can do 4 layering objects on top of of flash
[12:15] <apol> flash sucks
[12:15] <apol> closed, obfuscaded and privative...
[12:16] <crackhead_25> question: anyone have trouble with cups? my cups keeps hanging when i try to open it to install a new printer. i restart the computer. same problem.
[12:16] <intelikey> besides it's ugly
[12:16] <makuseru> its not like there is an alternitive to it. is there?
[12:16] <intelikey> crackhead_25 dapper ?
[12:17] <distroid> dig my flash timewaster its a synthesizer 4 deaf people
[12:17] <distroid> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25617335/
[12:17] <yurimxpxman> how do I change the screen resolution in KDE3.5?
[12:17] <crackhead_25> i'm using edgy
[12:17] <crackhead_25> 6.10
[12:18] <intelikey> crackhead_25 dapper introduced a corrupt database  in one of the foomatic upadtes.  i don't know about edgy...
[12:18] <crackhead_25> it was working fine before today. i plugged in a new printer
[12:18] <crackhead_25> is there any commandline command to setup a new printer?
[12:18] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: kcontrol -> peripherals -> monitor & display
[12:19] <distroid> kubuntu just installed today.  im gonna try and hook up a random printer. race ya
[12:19] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: Monitor & Display isn't in my control center..
[12:20] <wsjunior> crackhead_25: kcontrol -> peripherals -> printers (not command line but does the job also)
[12:20] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[12:20] <crackhead_25> what's kcontrol?
[12:20] <wsjunior> crackhead_25: the real kde control center
[12:21] <crackhead_25> it's hanging too..
[12:21] <crackhead_25> i open it. i go to periph, print, add print.. hang..
[12:21] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: Don't you mean /CTRL/+Alt+F2 to switch to a tty? (sorry, I'm a GNOME user..)
[12:21] <distroid>  sweet i found the usb cord
[12:23] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: not. that commad that i told u will open the kde control center, there u will find the peripherals and monitor & display settings
[12:23] <intelikey> crackhead_25 was there any gutenprint or foomatic packages in the last update ?
[12:23] <crackhead_25> might have been..??
[12:23] <crackhead_25> how would i know?
[12:23] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: The display settings aren't in kcontrol (perhaps I need to install a package? I installed KDE from Ubuntu)
[12:24] <intelikey> crackhead_25 ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep db
[12:24] <intelikey> if you haven't cleared the dl cache they will still be there
[12:24] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: do u have any system settings entry in your kde menu?
[12:25] <crackhead_25> doesn't appear to be..
[12:25] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: I have Settings and System Menu
[12:25] <crackhead_25> how do i find the uri for a usb connected printer?
[12:25] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: click on it
[12:25] <intelikey> crackhead_25 lsusb ?
[12:25] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: which one? System Menu?
[12:25] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: there is monitor and display in the computer administration section
[12:25] <crackhead_25> what is the uri? is it the xxxx:xxxx?
[12:26] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: It's not there :P
[12:26] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: "System Settings"
[12:26] <mateus-br> is there difference between "ati" and "radeon" drivers (xorg.conf)?
[12:26] <intelikey> yeah something like  0,1
[12:26] <intelikey> bus 0 device 1
[12:26] <crackhead_25> intelikey: are you talkin to me?
[12:26] <crackhead_25> oh..
[12:26] <intelikey> crackhead_25 yep
[12:26] <crackhead_25> i should type the bus X device X?
[12:27] <intelikey> usb:0,1 i think is the syntax for usb uri's   but you chould check with someone else
[12:27] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: got it?
[12:28] <blue_> i have a big-ish problem, was playin with beryl, system hang, mouse works but ctrl-aly-backspace won't, rebooted and got the same thing...
[12:28] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: I must not have all of the KDE packages installed. I got them from aptitude in Ubuntu
[12:28] <mateus-br> is there difference between "ati" and "radeon" drivers (xorg.conf)?
[12:29] <intelikey> may be dot in place of comma
[12:29] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: have u installed kubuntu-desktop?
[12:29] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: Everything seems to be there /except/ the screen resolution one, and it's really bugging me because I have to use the mouse to scroll around my screen, if you follow me
[12:29] <crackhead_25> intelikey: well, parallel looks something like this: parallel:/dev/lp2
[12:29] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: I think I just ran apt-get install kde. I'll try kubuntu-desktop.
[12:29] <crackhead_25> so would usb be "usb:/dev/usb.. or something?
[12:29] <intelikey> yes but they are not the same.
[12:29] <crackhead_25> what' dev mean?
[12:30] <intelikey>  /dev/ is the devicenode dirrectory
[12:30] <intelikey> ls /dev
[12:30] <crackhead_25> in /dev/ there is a usblp0.. is that from the old printer or is that the new one which is connected now?
[12:30] <yurimxpxman> wsjunior: alright, it's got a lot of packages that I didn't have installed. I'm downloading them now. Thanks :)
[12:30] <crackhead_25> however, i dont see that device in the kcontrol printer setup--whichis why im trying to input the uri.. i guess?
[12:31] <wsjunior> yurimxpxman: anyway u could just open a terminal and type xrandr so u gonna have a list of all supported resolutions, so u can switch to the desired one typing xrandr -s x (where x is the respectively number of the desired resolution in the fir column)
[12:31] <intelikey> crackhead_25 idk.  echo "\r\n" > /dev/usblp0 and see which printer responds  lol
[12:31] <intelikey> but really.
[12:32] <crackhead_25> intelikey: i did it with sudo, and it said permission denied.. ?
[12:33] <crackhead_25> lsusb lists the device, the new printer. it can recognize it. so, why is there nothing be seen in the printer setup of kcontrol? it should see it. it's a very typical hp printer.
[12:33] <intelikey> crackhead_25 i agree. it should.   but the printer setup in kcontrol leaves much to be desired.
[12:35] <intelikey> crackhead_25 have you tried konqueror  127.0.0.1:631   ?
[12:35] <crackhead_25> it popped up the printer setup, when i had printer spooler system selected as lpr instead of cups, but then it didnt see the printer.. when i try to open the printer add/setup with cups selected as printer spooler, the kcontrol--periph--printer setup just hangs..
[12:35] <mervteck> hey guys im in the directory of my disc for unreal tournament, but what do i put infront of the installer file name to make it run in
[12:35] <mervteck> it*
[12:35] <intelikey> admitedly it's no better but at least it's different
[12:35] <chris_mac> hey guys
[12:36] <chris_mac> can someone give me a hand
[12:36] <chris_mac> im new to linux and im having problems
[12:36] <mervteck> WELCOME TO AWESOME LINUX!
[12:37] <chris_mac> everytime i start Kubuntu on livecd or on the HD it tells me "premission denied"
[12:37] <chris_mac> i have no clue why
[12:37] <chris_mac> it goes into the boot process
[12:37] <chris_mac> and it starts unpacking stuff
[12:37] <chris_mac> and permission denied comes across the screen almost constantly
[12:38] <chris_mac> any clues???
[12:39] <IndyTim> chris_mac : did you get through the installation ok?
[12:39] <chris_mac> i did
[12:39] <chris_mac> i installed it and it ran just fine
[12:39] <distroid> printed
[12:39] <chris_mac> its got a dual boot with XP
[12:40] <chris_mac> i had to run some crap on xp then booted back to the other HD and it said that
[12:40] <distroid> sweet.  yet another nonproblem i havent had since i installed kubuntu yesterday
[12:40] <NightBird> Chaffinch, are you sure it's a valid burn?
[12:40] <chris_mac> ive tried formatting the HD and reinstalling, and i still het the dame outcome
[12:40] <wolferines> looking for help in setting up my Twinview(duals), anyone willing to offer some?
[12:40] <chris_mac> same
[12:40] <NightBird> er... sorry Chaffinch, I meant chris_mac
[12:40] <NightBird> chris_mac: is it a valid burn of the cd?
[12:41] <chris_mac> it is
[12:41] <chris_mac> i thought of that myself
[12:41] <Ash-Fox> For those of you who are having problems with Wine's official repository for edgy (bad dependency issues). I have fixed the package myself and uploaded it to my own repository, you can add my repository via: sudo bash -c 'echo deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/ >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[12:41] <distroid> [blowing load all over printer test page] 
[12:41] <chris_mac> so i d/l'd it a second time and burned the ISO
[12:41] <chris_mac> it works on other PC's jsut fine
[12:41] <NightBird> hm...
[12:42] <chris_mac> i spoke with a buddy of mine whos a *nix guru and hes clueless too
[12:42] <IndyTim> chri)_mac : and you're able to get into Windows ok from GRUB?
[12:42] <mervteck> so can anyone tell me how to run the installer on my cd?
[12:42] <chris_mac> yup
[12:42] <pixelation> where is the folder where you can put start up shortcuts?
[12:42] <NightBird> wooo *just installed ie6 on his kubuntu install...*
[12:42] <distroid> dbl clik it
[12:43] <IndyTim> chris_mac: just perchance are you out of hd room?
[12:43] <intelikey> chris_mac sounds like some propritary security krap.  sysstem restore/dell partition junk/hp disk utils   idk what but if you have the install cd for the xp you can wipe the hd and start fresh.
[12:43] <distroid> hd room good pnt
[12:43] <distroid> xp -- fresh --same sentence?
[12:43] <chris_mac> well, the OS's are on seperate drives
[12:43] <pixelation> anyone know the folder to autoload apps on startup?
[12:44] <IndyTim> chris_mac : do you have a copy of GParted LIve?
[12:44] <chris_mac> i wiped the nix drive and formatted it twice
[12:44] <chris_mac> ran all kinds of diagnostics crap on it and it was fine
[12:44] <intelikey> chris_mac how did you wipe ?
[12:44] <chris_mac> formatted it
[12:44] <[pyro] > hi guys
[12:44] <intelikey> that did nothing much.   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdd
[12:44] <distroid> hi
[12:45] <chris_mac> i cant get to a command line
[12:45] <chris_mac> i cant get into anything
[12:45] <intelikey> chris_mac on a live CD ?
[12:45] <chris_mac> i have to format it from win
[12:45] <distroid> will catting zeros stop at end of drive?
[12:45] <chris_mac> livecd gives the same error
[12:45] <IndyTim> chris_mac: do you have a copy of GParted Live?
[12:45] <chris_mac> no
[12:45] <NightBird> intelikey: when you really want to format it, you should use a magnet... that will wipe it clean...
[12:45] <chris_mac> HAHA
[12:45] <chris_mac> im not trying to kill my machine
[12:46] <intelikey> NightBird no cleaner than writing goose eggs to it
[12:46] <IndyTim> chris_mac: if you can download and burn the iso to a cd and boot and take a look at your hd config
[12:46] <chris_mac> ok, will do
[12:46] <distroid> hehe... jumpers?
[12:46] <chris_mac> its called GParted live huh...
[12:46] <chris_mac> k
[12:46] <NightBird> chris_mac: I thought that you couldn't boot into the live cd..
[12:46] <blue_> when i log onto KDE i get a blank screen with no task bar... mouse works though, nothing to click on :(
[12:46] <IndyTim> yep
[12:46] <distroid> im sorry yall im new ill shut up
[12:47] <chris_mac> i cant
 will catting zeros stop at end of drive? <<< yes
[12:47] <distroid> did you choose a fluxbox session, blue
[12:47] <chris_mac> but it was wierd
[12:47] <blue_> no KDE
[12:47] <chris_mac> i then tried an install of Ubuntu
[12:47] <chris_mac> and it allowed that
[12:47] <distroid> thx intellikey i always meant to check
[12:47] <chris_mac> but the same problem occoured
[12:48] <chris_mac> im thinking about just throwing away the drive
[12:48] <distroid> send it to me
[12:48] <chris_mac> its only an 80 gig IDE anyway, and its a Maxtrash on top of it
[12:48] <IndyTim> chris_mac: who's the mfgr on the drive?
[12:48] <chris_mac> Maxtrash
[12:48] <distroid> goes nicely with my other 3
[12:49] <intelikey> distroid i have seen disk problems that repeorted as io errors that could be fixed with cat /etc/zero > /dev/hd?    where ? is the hd letter   normally "a"
[12:49] <chris_mac> ive got SATA 2 support... so might as well
[12:49] <chris_mac> the only thing that concerns me is that if the new drive does the same thing
[12:49] <distroid> i always zero my disks cuz i think its cool.  idk why
[12:50] <chris_mac> you must be young...
[12:50] <IndyTim> chris_mac: before you trash the drive, I'd still recommend taking a look at you partition lineup
[12:50] <chris_mac> i let it do that
[12:50] <chris_mac> but i believe my boot is 4 gigs
[12:50] <chris_mac> swap is 2
[12:50] <chris_mac> and whatever is the reast
[12:50] <chris_mac> rest
[12:50] <mervteck> ummm anyone? please? how do i run the installer file on my unreal tournament disc??
[12:51] <null__> o.o
[12:51] <null__> is your unreal tournament disc for linux or for windows?
[12:51] <mervteck> its the linux installer =)
[12:51] <blue_> use bash
[12:52] <mervteck> ive got the console directed to the cd
[12:52] <chris_mac> any clues?
[12:52] <mervteck> but now i dunno what to tell it =\
[12:52] <distroid> is there a way do a pseudo-raid type swap for speeding up old compy with more hds than ram
[12:52] <blue_> sudo bash scriptfilename.sh
[12:52] <mervteck> ty! ^^ 1 sec
[12:52] <intelikey> before you trash the disk,,, i'd try to blank it and start over.   but i'd prolly boot some kind of nix and snoop around on it for the cause first...  fdisk -l ;fsck ;mount blah blah ;even badblocks ; then cat zero > device and install me an os.
[12:53] <blue_> !xubuntu
[12:53] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:54] <blue_> think im gonna put xubuntu on my big pc
[12:54] <IndyTim> anyone know what the name of the app is in Ubuntu for downloading files off of a camera?
[12:54] <chris_mac> i got FC6 to run
[12:54] <intelikey> distroid how much ram ?
[12:54] <chris_mac> but it wouldnt recognize my wifi
[12:54] <bxnp> digikam IndyTim
[12:55] <IndyTim> that's in kde what about Gnome?
[12:55] <bxnp> f-spot
[12:55] <blue_> IndyTim: you are in the Kubuntu room....
[12:56] <cpk1> errr cant you still use digikam in ubuntu?
[12:56] <cpk1> err gnome*
[12:56] <intelikey> yes you can
[12:56] <yurimxpxman> what's the name of the KDE version of Novell's Slab menu?
[12:56] <mervteck> hey guys whats the command to unmount and remount my cd drive =)
[12:56] <yurimxpxman> mervteck: umount
[12:56] <esy4> hi
[12:56] <skogen> how do i remove kubuntu desktop? (i want to install ubuntu instead)
[12:56] <blue_> umount -a    i think
[12:56] <mervteck> >.< i mean the full command lol
[12:57] <yurimxpxman> skogen: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <intelikey> mervteck umount /media/cdrom ;mount /media/sdrom
[12:57] <intelikey> cdrom
[12:57] <skogen> yurimxpxman: how do i remove kubuntu desktop?
[12:57] <intelikey> not many have sdrom...
[12:58] <yurimxpxman> skogen: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[12:58] <skogen> tnx
[12:58] <mervteck> ty ^^
[12:58] <yurimxpxman> skrogen: I wouldn't use that command though, because it might take out some of Ubuntu's essentials
[12:58] <intelikey> skogen that only removes the meta package.
[12:58] <skogen> cok
[12:58] <cpk1> in soviet russia kubuntu-desktop removes YOU
[12:58] <yurimxpxman> skrogen: If you're going to remove kubuntu completely, you should remove kubuntu-desktop from a tty and install ubuntu-desktop after that
[12:58] <intelikey> are you asking how to remove the kde ?
[12:58] <distroid> ya u only need to log out and choose a dif session
[12:59] <skogen> intelikey:yes
[12:59] <distroid> why remode the kde
[12:59] <dirgedoll> Hey
[12:59] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know the name of Novell's KDE version of the Slab menu?
[12:59] <mervteck> it says device buisy now
[01:00] <dirgedoll> I just got this I don't know jack shit about any of it. Heh
[01:00] <wolferine> well, looks like nvidia drivers just wont load here
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> !language | dirgedoll
[01:00] <ubotu> dirgedoll: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:00] <dirgedoll> oops sorry
[01:00] <intelikey> skogen that's a bit more tricky...  sudo apt-get remove kdelibs   might get most of it.
[01:01] <mervteck> guys what do i do to unmount my cd drive when it says device is buisy
[01:01] <dirgedoll> what I don't understand is how to open files once you dl them
[01:01] <yurimxpxman> dirgedoll: What type of file?
[01:01] <intelikey> you can read the list of packages it is going to remove and see if that is sufficent for you.
[01:02] <skogen> ok
[01:02] <dirgedoll> I think it was an rpm
[01:02] <dirgedoll> this is just a little different than windows heh
[01:02] <intelikey> mervteck the icon on the desktop is what has it occupied.     right click eject
[01:03] <wolferine> someone want to help with setting up my Nvidia/Twinview?
[01:03] <intelikey> mervteck if you "can live without" the icon right click the desktop and configure  choose in the device icons section  untic the cdrom   or all device icons for that matter...
[01:03] <intelikey> then you don't have that issue anymore.
[01:04] <mervteck> it wont eject =\
[01:04] <peyote> dirgedoll: rpm is another package format than the one kubuntu uses which is deb. There is a tool called alien which can transform rpm into deb. But I recommend  you should install programms via tools like synaptic which are from the kubuntu repository
[01:04] <intelikey> is there any browser/shell accessing it ?
[01:05] <intelikey> any file on the cd open ?
[01:05] <dirgedoll> where would I get synaptic?
[01:05] <intelikey> dirgedoll aptitude apt-get or adept
[01:06] <mervteck> just the installer in console
[01:06] <intelikey> !dpkg
[01:06] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[01:07] <wolferine> i cannot even get my nvidia driver to load
[01:07] <wolferine> how would I remove/reinstall it all?
[01:07] <kaoticevil> ive got a problem with sudo
[01:07] <Kr4t05> wolferine: How did you install it? adept?
[01:08] <wolferine> not sure
[01:08] <wolferine> been doing so much, i completely forget
[01:08] <dirgedoll> ok so the Kubuntu is already packaged with adept?
[01:08] <intelikey> kaoticevil in admin group ?
[01:09] <mervteck> ok everything thats running off my cd drive other then the console is closed and i still cant eject
[01:09] <intelikey> dirgedoll yes
[01:09] <intelikey> !adept | dirgedoll
[01:09] <ubotu> dirgedoll: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:09] <intelikey> !synaptic | dirgedoll
[01:09] <Kr4t05> wolferine: Do this: glxinfo | grep NVIDIA and look for the version.
[01:09] <ubotu> dirgedoll: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:09] <dirgedoll> ok
[01:09] <Kr4t05> wolferine: Tell me what that is.
[01:10] <intelikey> you can use either/both
[01:10] <mcquaid> hello, i use the kmplayer plugin in konq, and I have one issue with fullscreen.  If I choose fullscreen either via the menu or by pressing 'f' I can't escape from fullscreen again
[01:10] <dirgedoll> thanks for that link
[01:10] <kaoticevil> intelikey: whenever i try to call sudo from konsole, i get a bunch of syntax errors
[01:10] <intelikey> kaoticevil type   which sudo
[01:10] <wolferine> Kr4t05, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:10] <kaoticevil> i get /usr/bin/sudo
[01:11] <kaoticevil> i get a syntax error in my sudoers file
[01:11] <intelikey> ok at least that's correct.
[01:11] <wolferine> I get that three times, then this: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[01:11] <intelikey> kaoticevil did you use visudo to edit the sudoers file ?
[01:11] <wolferine> then I get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". again, another 6 times
[01:11] <kaoticevil> intelikey: ive never edited the sudoers file
[01:12] <intelikey> kaoticevil ok.    sudo echo yes     and show me what it say
[01:12] <intelikey> don't flood.
[01:12] <intelikey> !paste | kaoticevil
[01:12] <ubotu> kaoticevil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:13] <wolferine> any ideas Kr4t05 ?
[01:13] <kaoticevil> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11112/
[01:13] <intelikey> looking
[01:13] <Kr4t05> wolferine: Are you running an xserver or are you in CLI?
[01:14] <mcquaid> i wouldn't mind trying jahshaka, is there an edgy rep anywhere?
[01:14] <mervteck> hey guys how do u pull up the console command area when theres an overlay on it ? i know u can i just forget how to
[01:14] <wolferine> atm. I am in X
[01:14] <intelikey> wrong line end char.   would be my guess kaoticevil
[01:14] <Kr4t05> wo
[01:15] <intelikey> that would be caused by using a downloaded sudoers file  or editing with something not sudoers compliant   or saving in the wrong format.
[01:15] <kaoticevil> intelikey: ive not done any of that
[01:15] <intelikey> kaoticevil you say you have not edited /etc/sudoers ?
[01:15] <Kr4t05> wolferine: Then, your nvidia drivers need to be reinstalled. What most likely happned is a kernel update cause those drivers to not work. My advice to you is to go get the latest nvidia drivers from nvidia.com and installing them manually.
[01:15] <kaoticevil> intelikey: i have neither edited or downloaded a sudoers file
[01:16] <wolferine> manually
[01:16] <Kr4t05> wolferine: You'll have to spend a short moment in CLI, but it is worth it.
[01:16] <wolferine> well, I recently formatted my system
[01:16] <intelikey> kaoticevil has anyone else access to that box ?
[01:16] <wolferine> and it was working fine before
[01:16] <kaoticevil> intelikey: no, only myself
[01:16] <kaoticevil> wolferine: have you tried Envy?
[01:16] <crackhead_25> question: how do i find out what the uri of my printer is? i can see it in lsusb, but is that the uri? xxxx:xxxx?
[01:16] <wolferine> i have it, yes
[01:16] <wolferine> i just grabbed Automatix2 as well
[01:17] <wolferine> but it seems that nvidia.ro is giving me issues
[01:17] <intelikey> kaoticevil less /var/log/auth*    look for signs of unwanted access   unknown ips
[01:17] <wolferine> or soemthing like that, nvidia with a two letter extension
[01:17] <intelikey> if nothing shows up then i'll see if i can walk you through fixing the sudoers file.
[01:18] <wolferine> restarting
[01:18] <wolferine> ill copy the filename down
[01:19] <kaoticevil> intelikey: everything thats there i did
[01:20] <intelikey> kaoticevil ok reboot into single user mode and run visudo    you can remove everything except one line.      %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:20] <roger> anyone know of a way to format and do a read/write test on a CF card so I can know they are good?
[01:20] <kaoticevil> intelikey: how do i get into single user mode?
[01:20] <DarkED> wow... the versatility of linux continues to amaze me
[01:21] <intelikey> kaoticevil at the boot prompt  [esc]    and selsct safe/recovery/mode
[01:21] <DarkED> i just upgraded my system from an athlonxp 1800+ on a ECS K7SEM w/ 256meg of RAM to an MSI PM8M-V w/ a Pentium 4 Prescott @ 3000mhz and 512meg of ram
[01:21] <DarkED> and kubuntu booted just fine the second time
[01:22] <kaoticevil> intelikey: ok, im gonna try that now.. back in a little bit, hopefully lol
[01:22] <DarkED> the first time it kernel paniced, but the second time i'm up and running and ALL my drivers auto installed themselves
[01:22] <DarkED> i had to reinstall windows because it BSOD'd every time
[01:22] <intelikey> kaoticevil if you don't see a safe or recovery  or anything like that you can hit [e]  and select the kernel line and hit [e]  add  1  < that's number one  to the end of the line and enter   hit [b] 
[01:22] <DarkED> I am impressed
[01:23] <SilentM> That's awesome, D!
[01:23] <dxdt> So, if I install Kubuntu-desktop, I get a ton of programs I don't want, and one that I do want.  That is something configures the keys on the front of my laptop automatically.  If I just installed KDE and stuff like that, without Kubuntu desktop, they won't be configured.  Anyone know what program is responsible for automagically setting that up??
[01:23] <SilentM> DarkED*
[01:23] <wolferines> so when I change my xorg.conf to have nvidia, instead of nv, and I restart X, I have this error: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/volatile/nvidia.ko' No such file or directory
[01:23] <DarkED> SilentM: yes?
[01:23] <DarkED> oh, nvm :)
[01:24] <SilentM> Heh :P
[01:24] <wolferines> how can I install that file, so the driver can use it?
[01:24] <DarkED> hmm... when i attempt to install the i686 smp kernel ... it just gives me a 24kb metapackage
[01:24] <DarkED> no kernel
[01:24] <DarkED> sup with that?
[01:25] <intelikey> dxdt   laptop-mode-tools - Userland scripts to control "laptop mode"
[01:25] <intelikey> laptop-mode - laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops
[01:25] <dxdt> ummmmm why would I want that
[01:25] <rbrunhuber> DarkED: the metapackage should be dependent on the actual kernel so if it does not pull it in you have already installed it
[01:25] <dxdt> since my question didn't depend at all about laptop power
[01:26] <DarkED> rbrunhuber: i havent, but i figured it out
[01:26] <DarkED> linux-generic obsoleted the linux-686 kernel
[01:26] <DarkED> as well as the smp
[01:26] <DarkED> it says the generic has all kernels, so thats cool i guess :)
[01:26] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to find the uri of a printer device recognized by lsusb but not listed in the printer setup control panel?
[01:26] <rbrunhuber> DarkED: Yeah generic kernel has already smp abilitys
[01:27] <DarkED> rbrunhuber: does it know it's supposed to be using them?
[01:27] <intelikey> dxdt hotkey-setup - auto-configures laptop hotkeys
[01:27] <intelikey> kmilo - laptop special keys support for KDE
[01:27] <dxdt> hotkey setup eh?
[01:27] <rbrunhuber> DarkED: AFAIK it "optimizes" itself if it finds an smp kernel.
[01:28] <intelikey> dxdt apt-cache search laptop | grep key
[01:28] <mihai_> what
[01:28] <eilker> !KSplash
[01:28] <ubotu> ksplash: the KDE splash screen. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 698 kB, installed size 1328 kB
[01:28] <dxdt> intelikey, I already have that package installed.
[01:28] <DarkED> rbrunhuber: yes, i know... but it would do that on install right? i just switched in this hardware and the system booted ... i mean would it autodetect the new Pentium 4 and pipe it through 686 smp?
[01:29] <DarkED> i was using an athlonxp 1800 before
[01:29] <DarkED> so ... k7 kerne;
[01:29] <mhall53> hello whats up everyone
[01:29] <dxdt> There is something that kubuntu-desktop does that I can't seem to figure out.  It looks like all the packages are here.... there must be some obscure package or script or ... who knows
[01:29] <rbrunhuber> DarkED: Post uname -a here
[01:29] <DarkED> rbrunhuber: sure thing
[01:29] <mhall53> anyone   know the command to edit the sources.lost file
[01:29] <DarkED> [13:01]  <[Ci] Ikkor> but you are 20 years behind us, so no wonder its still morning
[01:29] <DarkED> er sorry
[01:30] <rbrunhuber> mhall53: I hope your sources are not lost :-)
[01:30] <DarkED> i keep forgetting ctrl+v doesnt work in konsole :D
[01:30] <DarkED> Linux darked-desktop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux <-- seems its working
[01:30] <DarkED> that is super sweet
[01:30] <DarkED> this is why i love linux
[01:30] <DarkED> you can rip everything it knows out from under it and replace it with new tech and it'll just run it
[01:30] <kaoticevil> intelikey: well, i know what the problem was
[01:31] <intelikey> kaoticevil you have my ear
[01:31] <rbrunhuber> DarkED: It adds are fraction of a second to boottime but only one kernel image. this is cool
[01:31] <DarkED> rbrunhuber: well thanks :)
[01:31] <mhall53> whats the command
[01:31] <rbrunhuber> DarkED: welcome
[01:31] <rbrunhuber> mhall53: for what?
[01:31] <DarkED> rbrunhuber: yes, very cool ... i was sick of recompiling nvidia drivers every time i updated the kernel
[01:32] <kaoticevil> intelikey: well, somehow (dont ask me, because i have NO idea whatsoever) there were 10 xorg related errors at the beginning of my sudoers file
[01:32] <kaoticevil> deleted them, saved the the file, and no problems at all now :D
[01:32] <mhall53> to edit the sources.list fire
[01:32] <mhall53> !sources.list
[01:32] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:33] <rbrunhuber> mhall53: try sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:33] <intelikey> kaoticevil that sounds like a serious xorg or kdesu bug... maybe you should report it
[01:33] <intelikey> !bug | kaoticevil
[01:33] <ubotu> kaoticevil: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:33] <kaoticevil> intelikey: id like to know how it happened tho lol
[01:33] <intelikey> if something has writen to the sudoers file it's a problem.
[01:34] <kaoticevil> indeed it is
[01:34] <rbrunhuber> mhall53: Or you can try adept_manager then view->manage repositories
[01:37] <rbrunhuber> kaoticevil, intelikey: Are you sure the overwritten sudoers file is a bug?
[01:37] <intelikey> rbrunhuber i'm not.  but he says he didn't touch it and it has stderr output from xorg
[01:38] <rbrunhuber> intelikey: somebody must have made a real mess with the file. Here it is not even writeable for root
[01:38] <intelikey> root can write anywhere
[01:39] <intelikey> root don't do perms
[01:39] <intelikey> neither does init
[01:39] <mhall53> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[01:39] <rbrunhuber> mhall53: thats ok.
[01:39] <kaoticevil> rbrunhuber: all i did was install Edgy, update fully, install Envy (and my nVidia drivers), beryl, install gnome, rebooted to play some games, and when I came back to linux, i coulnt use sudo
[01:39] <intelikey> mhall53 that's normal
[01:39] <mhall53> its not opening
[01:40] <DarkED> that was odd ... kde froze
[01:40] <mateus-br> Is possible remove "Switch User" entry from Kicker?
[01:41] <rbrunhuber> kaoticevil: I did not want to insult you. This is a very,very severe problem so everything should be checked before a bug is filed.
[01:41] <intelikey> keditmenu
[01:41] <rbrunhuber> mateus-br: just rightclick on the "k" button for the menu editor
[01:41] <kaoticevil> intelikey: im a linux newbie, its not possible to insult me :)
[01:41] <kaoticevil> i know computers, but its all on dos/windows
[01:41] <mateus-br> rbrunhuber: there is no option to remove this entry
[01:42] <kaoticevil> i know *a little* about linux, but not the inner workings
[01:42] <intelikey> rbrunhuber >> forwarded message attached ^
[01:42] <rbrunhuber> mateus-br: or you could try to use kiosk but i never used it
[01:43] <rbrunhuber> intelikey: what do you mean
[01:43] <rbrunhuber> !kiosk
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiosk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <intelikey> rbrunhuber that was for you not me...  <kaoticevil> intelikey: im a linux newbie, its not possible to insult me :)
[01:43] <intelikey> and the following two  ^
[01:43] <mateus-br> rbrunhuber: already tried :(
[01:44] <kaoticevil> oops.. lol yeah, it was for rbrunhuber
[01:44] <rbrunhuber> mateus-br: kiosktool i meant
[01:45] <mhall53> still cant edit sources.list
[01:45] <mateus-br> yeah I already installed and check
[01:45] <intelikey> mhall53 sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:46] <mateus-br> sad this entry can't be removed a child or bad intended person can destroy a public kde computer :(
[01:46] <mhall53> i think i got it
[01:46] <rbrunhuber> mateus-br: you may try this on your own risk: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/15034/Remove-Switch-User-from-Kmenu-is-possible.html
[01:47] <mateus-br> this thread is mine :P
[01:47] <intelikey> i don't see how anyone without root clearance could hurt it anyway.
[01:48] <rbrunhuber> mateus-br: If you are really uncomfortable with not being able to remove the entry you should consider to file a bugreport against it.
[01:49] <rbrunhuber> mateus-br: the affected package should be kicker AFAIK
[01:50] <neo_> newbie here trying to install rpms don't have a clue how to
[01:50] <mhall53> anyone know where i can get more sources from
[01:50] <intelikey> that's not kde-menu ?
[01:51] <intelikey> mhall53 what for ?
[01:51] <mhall53> to be able to get codecs and something to play dvds
[01:51] <intelikey> why do you want more sources ?
[01:51] <rbrunhuber> neo_: first you should try at "any cost" to find a deb package.
[01:51] <intelikey> universe and multiverse
[01:51] <intelikey> !codecs | mhall53
[01:51] <ubotu> mhall53: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:51] <neo_> tring to  install alien to convert stuff i download to deb
[01:52] <mhall53> ok i have them enabled
[01:52] <raylu>  neo_, try to avoid alien; rbrunhuber is correct. what are you trying to install specifically?
[01:52] <neo_> yea i know deb is easier to install
[01:52] <mhall53> i used some cool that on that pastebin website
[01:52] <intelikey> !rpm | neo_
[01:52] <ubotu> neo_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:52] <neo_> nothing spcifically
[01:52] <raylu>  ...
[01:53] <rbrunhuber> neo_:  If it is nothing specifically you normally don't need it. :-) So you should not risk to spoil your machine
[01:53] <neo_> ok ill get the other one but does anyone know a good site to find deb installs
[01:53] <raylu>  it depends on what you're trying to install
[01:53] <raylu>  which is why i asked :D
[01:53] <neo_> im justt lookingg for cool programs
[01:54] <intelikey> mhall53 don't for get to update the database after you edit the sources.list    sudo apt-get update
[01:54] <raylu>  then go into the adept package manager. you'll never get through that list alone
[01:54] <intelikey> that applies the changes...
[01:54] <mhall53> i did
[01:54] <neo_> games utilities that kind of stuff
[01:54] <mhall53> how many is available after u do and update
[01:54] <mhall53> i only have 20306
[01:55] <intelikey> 20k packages is a lot....
[01:55] <raylu>  *only*? installed or availible?
[01:55] <mhall53> i want to play back dvds but i cant find anything to do it
[01:55] <rbrunhuber> mhall53: around the same number here.
[01:55] <intelikey> !dvd | mhall53
[01:55] <ubotu> mhall53: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:56] <rbrunhuber> mhall53: Try reading the packages you are pointed to, it really helps
[01:56] <rbrunhuber> mhall53: sorry packages=pages
[01:58] <mhall53> cool found it
[01:58] <neo_> so where to I find cool stuff like programs and games in deb to download
[01:59] <rbrunhuber> neo_: The problem with rpms for example is that they are often dependent on tools of the specified plattform. So very common error is that the pre or post hooks fail because they can't find checkinstall. And alien is no help then. Because checkinstall for example is not available for ubuntu (at least i did not find it)
[02:00] <neo_> OK ill avoid them then
[02:00] <neo_> but  where do I find deb programs and games to download
[02:00] <mhall53> man i love this community if i had been using another distro u would have cursed me out lol thx for the  help
[02:00] <rbrunhuber> neo_:  normally your best friend is google. <name of program> deb OR debian package
[02:01] <neo_> ok thanks
[02:01] <mhall53> nvm i go t another question is there a program that will install a soure for becuse i dont know how to do it
[02:01] <neo_> hey does anyone know what flavor of linux UserFul Uses
[02:01] <rbrunhuber> neo_: I'm sorry to tell you there is no "mr wolf archive" for deb or ubuntu packages
[02:02] <rbrunhuber> neo_: Who or what is UserFul?
[02:02] <neo_> Desktop Multiplier allows your Linux operating system to support up to 10 independent users, monitors and keyboards with just one PC.
[02:03] <soulrider> hey there, are there any C++ programmers here ?
[02:03] <neo_> http://www.userful.com/
[02:03] <intelikey> neo_ to find programs   first look in the package database.  there are several ways to do that one is the search feature of adept andother is the konsole command   apt-cache search <string>      where string might be something like   game | less
[02:04] <ebovine_> So I have 3 browser on my machine and for some reason Firefox is ignoring css font choice on web sites.  Any clues?
[02:05] <neo_> use Opera
[02:05] <mhall53> is there a program that will install sources automatic
[02:05] <ebovine_> I do when I'm surfing, but I need to test some stuff in Firefox.
[02:05] <neo_> ohhh
[02:05] <neo_> ill shutup now
[02:06] <intelikey> neo_ it is of particular interest that you should learn a little about less becaues it has the search functions for forward and backward searching as well as saving to file and other useful features.   man less
[02:06] <ebovine_> Fock.  My bad.
[02:06] <ebovine_> The checkbox in Firefox to override page fonts was set.
[02:06] <ebovine_> :S
[02:06] <ebovine_> Carry on.
[02:07] <wolferines> how do I setup an alias I made, to work all the time ?
[02:07] <neo_> ???
[02:07] <intelikey> put it in ~/.profile   ?
[02:08] <intelikey> @ wolferines ^
[02:08] <c0nv1ct> wolferines: put it in ~/.bashrc
[02:08] <wolferines> starting with alias?
[02:08] <c0nv1ct> wolferines: you will see existing examples in there
[02:08] <intelikey> wolferines yes    alias blah="something"
[02:08] <shadowhywind> can someone help me get avi (xvid) playback working. the w32codecs do not seam to be working
[02:09] <[pyro] > !restricted
[02:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:09] <REAL> how can i stop bluetooth?
[02:09] <wolferines> then restart the shell to take effect?
[02:09] <intelikey> c0nv1ct i think "all the time" might be key,  .bashrc is not read all the time and .bash_bashrc is not read all the time.   i think (could be mistaken tho) that  .profile will be.
[02:09] <rbrunhuber> wolferines: you should use ~/.bashrc there are some aliases already
[02:10] <DisabledDuck> how do i enable remote desktop in kubuntu?
[02:10] <raylu>  DisabledDuck, Menu > Internet > ?
[02:10] <REAL> whats the name for the bluetooth daemon? i cant find it to stop it
[02:10] <wolferines> yeah
[02:10] <wolferines> thats what I did
[02:10] <rbrunhuber> REAL: bluez-utils
[02:10] <DisabledDuck> how do i enable my computer to act as a VNC host is what i need
[02:11] <jarle> REAL: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop
[02:11] <intelikey> rbrunhuber does konsole and other terminal emulators read .bashrc ?
[02:11] <c0nv1ct> DisabledDuck: try Krdc
[02:11] <REAL>  * Stopping Bluetooth services... <-- but i still get the bluetooth light on my notebook
[02:11] <neo_> http://www.getdeb.net
[02:12] <DisabledDuck> c0nv1ct: thats what i tried, but that only lets me connect to a remote desktop as far as i can tell
[02:12] <c0nv1ct> DisabledDuck: try Krfb
[02:12] <rbrunhuber> REAL: That should be clear because you shutdown the driver not the hardware.
[02:12] <DisabledDuck> c0nv1ct: thx
[02:12] <neo_> can anyone tell me how  to  get the sound working on Kubuntu on  a VVPCCc
[02:13] <neo_> VPC
[02:13] <DisabledDuck> c0nv1ct: will that start automatically when i turn on the machine if i enable it?
[02:13] <c0nv1ct> DisabledDuck: no, you need to setup an invite, and it works once, you need to invite again to use it again
[02:14] <DisabledDuck> c0nv1ct: hmmm, is there any way to set up a VNC host to start automatically when i boot up the machine?
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> DisabledDuck: try searching for a VNC server
[02:14] <neo_> put it in the start menu maybe???
[02:14] <neo_> can anyone tell me how  to  get the sound working on Kubuntu on  a VPC
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> neo_: what kind of VPC? Vmware?
[02:15] <neo_> MS VPC
[02:15] <intelikey> you mean like enabling remote login in the *dm ?
[02:15] <c0nv1ct> neo_: 32bit or 64bit version?
[02:15] <neo_> 32
[02:15] <c0nv1ct> neo_: did you add a sound device to the virtual machine properties?
[02:15] <neo_> yup
[02:16] <neo_> works on every vpc (XP,  wwin98)
[02:16] <c0nv1ct> neo_: are you able to see the device in lshw?
[02:16] <neo_> vista and Kubuntu no sound
[02:17] <neo_> ???  lshw ???
[02:17] <c0nv1ct> neo_: lshw is a console command that lists all your hardware
[02:17] <neo_> ohhhh ill check
[02:17] <intelikey> sudo lshw | less
[02:18] <c0nv1ct> i use vmware, so i'm not familiar with how virtualpc sets up its sound device
[02:18] <c0nv1ct> though it should be a generic device and easily recognizable
[02:18] <neo_> nope didn't show up
[02:19] <neo_> hmmm
[02:19] <Xel> Buenas noches a todos.
[02:19] <c0nv1ct> neo_: nothing labeled "Multimedia audio controller" in lshw?
[02:19] <neo_> nope wanna see
[02:20] <c0nv1ct> strange, it should show up, verify that the device is enabled in the machine's properties
[02:21] <neo_> yea its enabled on the VPC but dont show uup  hmmm
[02:21] <intelikey> heh depending on bios for hardware support   lol
[02:21] <Xel> Alguien habla espaol?
[02:21] <c0nv1ct> !es | Xel
[02:21] <ubotu> Xel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:22] <eilker> !inetd
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <raylu>  !lmap
[02:22] <raylu>  !lamp
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:22] <raylu>  eilker, is that what you were looking for?
[02:23] <eilker> raylu: nope, i know what lamp is
[02:23] <c0nv1ct> hehe, neo_ tried to paste the lshw output to a msg to me
[02:23] <eilker> !Xinetd
[02:23] <ubotu> xinetd: replacement for inetd with many enhancements. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.3.14-1 (edgy), package size 127 kB, installed size 356 kB
[02:23] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin | neo_
[02:23] <ubotu> neo_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:24] <intelikey> well i think i have determined where the source of the unfiltered packets error is.   but i don't know what's causing it.
[02:24] <neo_> ooops sorry
[02:25] <eilker> how do you use proxy in linux ?
[02:25] <c0nv1ct> eilker: what kind
[02:26] <DisabledDuck> whats the command to restart the x server?
[02:26] <c0nv1ct> DisabledDuck: /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:26] <c0nv1ct> DisabledDuck: or just hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:26] <bxnp> do you  need a proxy server eilker
[02:26] <eilker> c0nv1ct: i am in network settings, i see "automatic script finder"
[02:26] <bxnp> or do you need to configure your clients for a proxy
[02:27] <c0nv1ct> eilker: what kind of proxy are you trying to use?
[02:27] <eilker> bxnp: i wanna try a proxy server
[02:27] <c0nv1ct> eilker: a web proxy?
[02:27] <bxnp> try squid
[02:27] <eilker> c0nv1ct: yes web proxy
[02:27] <eilker> !squid
[02:27] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[02:27] <c0nv1ct> eilker: wait, you want to setup a caching proxy?
[02:27] <intelikey> it's the access point i am using.   err am not using at the moment.    my isp sent out a memo to check/change access points because of an upgrade to the system.   i did and i get repeted timed error messages from the kernel    if i use the new access point.     reads  ppp unfiltered packet error     or something like that...    i don't get that from the old access point.
[02:27] <eilker> bxnp: will my speed be slower ?
[02:28] <bxnp> no it will not
[02:28] <eilker> c0nv1ct: i have no idea, what i want is, to not leave my real ip...
[02:28] <bxnp> besides its a cache so it might me faster
[02:28] <c0nv1ct> eilker: thats not possible, unless you use a certain type of proxy, and none that i know of are free
[02:29] <bxnp> but i am off, guys i need to visit my bed, cause its getting lonely, adios everybody night night
[02:29] <eilker> c0nv1ct: i wanna surf with fake ip
[02:29] <eilker> bxnp: good night
[02:29] <c0nv1ct> eilker: you can use a proxy to surf with, but your IP is still visable unless you use a proxy service that uses encryption
[02:29] <raylu>  or if the proxy hides your ip...
[02:30] <intelikey> !tor
[02:30] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[02:30] <c0nv1ct> raylu: to actually hide your IP, it has to use encryption or some other method of identifying you
[02:30] <raylu>  ...why's that?
[02:30] <c0nv1ct> a standard proxy only encapsulates your IP
[02:30] <raylu>  encapsulates?
[02:30] <c0nv1ct> a return address or some identifying source has to exist for the data to return to your PC
[02:30] <eilker> we can never hide our ip.....it will be found everytime....
[02:30] <neo_> hey all thanks for  the help im out
[02:31] <raylu>  right, but as long as the proxy is the only one that knows the return address
[02:31] <raylu>  it's fine
[02:31] <eilker> yes raylu
[02:31] <c0nv1ct> raylu: thats not how anonymous proxies work
[02:31] <raylu>  o.0?
[02:32] <c0nv1ct> there are some private proxies that can accomplish true anonymous browsing, but not the free anonymous proxies you will find
[02:32] <eilker> c0nv1ct> what do free anonymous proxies do ?
[02:33] <c0nv1ct> eilker: they just forward your traffic, the immediate visable IP is theirs, but your IP still exists in each packet
[02:33] <intelikey> heh ssh into a remote shell server and brows from there   hehh
[02:33] <eilker> i used to use "hide ip" software in xp, it used to make my speed very slower
[02:33] <c0nv1ct> eilker: it does make it slower, and those programs don't really work
[02:34] <eilker> what should i do to surf with fake ip ?
[02:34] <eilker> private proxy ?
[02:34] <raylu>  hm...i'll take your word for it, i suppose
[02:34] <intelikey> there is only so much band width.   we should all stop using the internet so we dont max it out...
[02:35] <raylu>  by the way, when you say my ip exists, would that be under the
[02:35] <raylu>  TCP headers or the HTTP ones?
[02:35] <raylu>  yes, intelikey. let's also kill people to stop disease!
[02:35] <intelikey> raylu who do we start with ?    the jews ?
[02:35] <raylu>  [BTF] Chm0d
[02:35] <raylu>  ack
[02:36] <MuJ> yes, and let's travel with horses and by foot
[02:36] <eilker> !sock
[02:36] <raylu>  hm, depending on context, that could be pretty funny.
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <eilker> !socks
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about socks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <raylu>  !socks4
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about socks4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <raylu>  ouches.
[02:37] <c0nv1ct> raylu: TCP
[02:37] <eilker> !proxy
[02:37] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[02:37] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[02:37] <DarkED> ok for some reason kde is freezing on me
[02:37] <c0nv1ct> raylu: you can research how datagrams are built and how proxies work, but its not very interesting :P
[02:37] <DarkED> i can still move the mouse but i cant do anything
[02:38] <intelikey> DarkED drop to a console and see if something has ran way wif' it's self.
[02:38] <DarkED> intelikey: i cant
[02:39] <DarkED> intelikey: the keyboard stops responding
[02:39] <DarkED> all i can do is move the mouse
[02:39] <intelikey> alt+wywrq+r   alt+ctrl+f1
[02:39] <DarkED> but i cant click icons or right click
[02:39] <eilker> darked: i would try to reconfigure x server
[02:39] <DarkED> i said the keyboard stops responding ;)
[02:39] <DarkED> eilker: ok, i'll do that
[02:39] <intelikey> oops wywrq/sysrq
[02:39] <intelikey> alt+sysrq+r   alt+ctrl+f1
[02:40] <intelikey> DarkED did you try that ^  ?
[02:41] <NightBird> does anyone know of a petition to ati for support for aiglx/composite extension in their prop driver?
[02:41] <intelikey> why not petition for open sourse drivers
[02:41] <eilker> !zeroconf
[02:41] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[02:42] <utnubuk> amarok breaks every time i try to play an mp3, now i have to erase all the config files restart and reinstall, how can i make it not break?
[02:42] <c0nv1ct> utnubuk: define 'break'
[02:42] <eilker> utnubuk>: version ?
[02:43] <DarkED> intelikey: yes, i tried the hotkeys
[02:43] <utnubuk> c0nv1ct: it hust hangs real bad when it says populating playlist at the bottom
[02:43] <DarkED> intelikey: the keyboard ceases to exist
[02:43] <c0nv1ct> utnubuk: like eilker said, what version?
[02:43] <intelikey> darked  alt+sysrq   don't work ?
[02:44] <c0nv1ct> utnubuk: i had problems with the original version with kubuntu, using 1.4.5 fixed a ton of problems
[02:44] <utnubuk> eilker: i am not sure which version, although it is probably the latest one because i have been downloading it fresh
[02:44] <Iwonder> utnubuk:  that is normal if you populate a large drive,especially a remotely mounted one
[02:44] <eilker> utnubuk>: try 1.4.5
[02:44] <intelikey> heh i have never seen that on a kernel with magic sysrq enabled
[02:44] <utnubuk> eilker: will do ty
[02:44] <eilker> c0nv1ct> same here
[02:44] <eilker> utnubuk>: let me give you the link
[02:44] <utnubuk> ok
[02:44] <c0nv1ct> eilker: 1.4.5 came with all the shoutcast radio stations too, which was nice :)
[02:45] <eilker> c0nv1ct> last fm heaven :)
[02:46] <eilker> utnubuk>: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145 edgy main
[02:46] <c0nv1ct> i still have weird problems playing streams in amarok
[02:46] <intelikey> DarkED don't be angry just tell me you did press the alt key and the sysRQ key and the R key all at one time...  then the alt+ctrl+f1  and you didn't get to a console.   cause i'm not sure the magic sysrq can stop working once enabled...
[02:46] <eilker> utnubuk>: firstly i removed with purge option, than installed from there
[02:46] <c0nv1ct> half the time i get an error about codecs, then i just try again and it works
[02:46] <NightBird> intelikey: because that's much less likely to work than just asking for specific new features...
[02:46] <utnubuk> eilker: i just found out what version i have - it is 1.4.5....
[02:47] <NightBird> intelikey: they might have some code in there they can't release as open source
[02:47] <intelikey> NightBird it traded hands you know.   they might open source it...
[02:47] <eilker> c0nv1ct> do u watch video with it ?
[02:47] <eilker> utnubuk>: from which repo ?
[02:47] <utnubuk> one sec
[02:48] <eilker> utnubuk>: edgy official repo's doesnt have 1.4.5
[02:48] <NightBird> intelikey: yes, but my point still stands..
 intelikey: they might have some code in there they can't release as open source  <<<< you mean illeagle code ?
[02:48] <c0nv1ct> eilker: no, i use kaffeine for that
[02:48] <intelikey> could be...
[02:48] <NightBird> intelikey: no, like code they had to sign a waver of non-disclosure
[02:48] <utnubuk> eilker: im using the beta of feisty fawn - does that have something to do with it?
[02:49] <eilker> utnubuk>: ohh ok, i didnt know it
[02:49] <utnubuk> eilker: fiesty herd**
[02:49] <intelikey> which would probably mean that it's not fully leagle anyway... but at any rant...
[02:50] <NightBird> intelikey: of course, it might be possible to open source everything *but* that code and leave it as closed source, but then that's not really open source..
[02:50] <utnubuk> eilker: im just going to disable multiverse and all that junk and see what happens, thanks for your help
[02:50] <c0nv1ct> hmm, i tried to upgrade to feisty in my virtual test machine, and i dont think it worked
[02:50] <eilker> utnubuk>: good luck friend
[02:50] <utnubuk> ty
[02:50] <Xel> espaol
[02:51] <intelikey> months ?
[02:51] <Xel> alguen habla en espaol?
[02:51] <intelikey> yeah me too
[02:51] <eilker> yeah
[02:51] <eilker> !es
[02:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:52] <c0nv1ct> oh nm, now the upgrade wizard thing comes up
[02:52] <scarabeuz> hi all
[02:52] <intelikey> eilker see debian.org
[02:52] <eilker> intelikey: for ?
[02:52] <DShepherd> Can I get an audio file to burn across two CDs?
[02:52] <intelikey> system that the developers agree with that sentiment
[02:52] <scarabeuz> sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[02:52] <scarabeuz> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[02:52] <scarabeuz> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
[02:52] <scarabeuz> Reading state information... Fertig
[02:52] <scarabeuz> E: Konnte Paket module-assistant nicht finden
[02:52] <c0nv1ct> DShepherd: thats one big audio file, lol
[02:52] <scarabeuz> woran kann das liegen?
[02:53] <DShepherd> c0nv1ct, Yes it's about 3 hours long
[02:53] <c0nv1ct> whoa, use pastebin
[02:53] <intelikey> eilker it's also the upstream source of ubuntu
[02:53] <eilker> intelikey: yeah  i know, i have it on vmware
[02:53] <intelikey> k
[02:53] <c0nv1ct> DShepherd: you may be able to burn it to multiple CDs, but i dont think there is a way to prompt the insertion of the 2nd cd while playing the file
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> DShepherd: i think the best bet would be to chop the file in half
[02:54] <eilker> intelikey: dont u use debian ? do u prefer kubuntu to it ?
[02:54] <DShepherd> Fine how do I do that?
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> DShepherd: using an editor for the format that your audio file is
[02:54] <intelikey> eilker i'm on dialup and too cheep to buy a boxed set of open source cd's ....
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> DShepherd: just search adept for audio editors
[02:55] <utnubuk> wheres the file i can edit to change my repos??
[02:55] <DShepherd> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:55] <eilker> utnubuk: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:55] <utnubuk> ty
[02:55] <intelikey> eilker so as long as shipit wants to send me a cd of the LTS version that's what i'll run.
[02:55] <eilker> intelikey: do u still have dial-up there ?
[02:55] <bishop> Need help!  I have installed Kubuntu desktop, but I need to know how to change from the Ubuntu 6.10 tty1 login to the GUI
[02:56] <c0nv1ct> dialup :*(
[02:56] <intelikey> it's all there is here unless you can afford satilite
[02:56] <c0nv1ct> bishop: try ctrl-alt-f7
[02:56] <intelikey> and i can't
[02:56] <Jucato> intelikey: I've heard some people receiving edgy cd's from shipit lately...
[02:56] <bishop> I did but it dose not work
[02:56] <eilker> utnubuk> just a note, u need to  do "sudo apt-get update"
[02:56] <intelikey> not interested in edgy really.  but thanks for the note. Jucato
[02:57] <c0nv1ct> bishop: its possible X isnt setup correctly then, is it a fresh install?
[02:57] <bishop> I tried the update too     It did not work
[02:57] <eilker> intelikey: edgy is ok, but it broke my kdm :) still not working
[02:57] <Jucato> intelikey: ah ok. I thought you were ordering CD's :D
[02:57] <utnubuk> eilker: thanks i would have not known to do that
[02:57] <intelikey> eilker use gdm   kdm is evil
[02:58] <eilker> intelikey: gdm with kde ??
[02:58] <intelikey> Jucato just explaining why i didn't use debian even though i agree more with it than with ubuntu.
[02:58] <c0nv1ct> gdm works fine for kde
[02:58] <intelikey> eilker yes
[02:58] <bishop> I tried to reinstall but it say the it is installed.  do I need to uninstall and reinstall?
[02:58] <Jucato> (here we go again...)
[02:59] <eilker> let me remove kdm and try for gdm , may be i am going to able to embrace  my login screen again :)
[02:59] <intelikey> Jucato ^ <eilker> intelikey: edgy is ok, but it broke my kdm :) still not working  <intelikey> eilker use gdm   kdm is evil     <<< not diving into the resoning...
[03:00] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: lol, yeah, not that again :P
[03:00] <intelikey> it's a little soon c0nv1ct maybe next weak.
[03:00] <intelikey> :)
[03:00] <c0nv1ct> yeah, too soon
[03:01] <bishop> Another question;  how do you add a file to the Adept manager?
[03:01] <intelikey> week ?
[03:01] <c0nv1ct> bishop: what do you mean? a deb packaged you downloaded yourself?
[03:01] <eilker> intelikey: i have many friends from there, we used to work with an IT company about fingerprint
[03:02] <bishop> yes  a perl
[03:02] <mhall53> hey is amsn any good
[03:02] <c0nv1ct> bishop: use 'dpkg -i' to install a package you got yourself
[03:02] <c0nv1ct> bishop: if it is available via the repos, it will be updated
[03:02] <bishop> ok
[03:03] <intelikey> bishop sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install packagename
[03:04] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: what does that do?
[03:04] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: make it in sync with the repos?
[03:04] <DarkED> well, i THINK i've got all the bugs worked out with my new hardware *knock on wood*
[03:04] <intelikey> yes and reinstalls it even if it is the same version
[03:04] <DarkED> by the by ... is motherboard burn-in really a big deal?
[03:04] <mhall53> hey intelikey
[03:05] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: i never bothered to do it... and never had problems
[03:05] <intelikey> mhall53
[03:05] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: i thought so too
[03:05] <mhall53> can u send me that sources.list again, i was not at home
[03:05] <DarkED> i was playing San Andreas only moments after installing the new board
[03:05] <intelikey> mhall53 edgy ?
[03:05] <c0nv1ct> DarkED: i could be wrong, but i dont think its that big of a deal
[03:05] <mhall53> yes
[03:05] <intelikey> k
[03:05] <DarkED> c0nv1ct: yeah
[03:06] <intelikey> you're welcome.
[03:07] <mhall53> so this is everything i need?
[03:07] <intelikey> and more.
[03:07] <mhall53> thank you
[03:07] <mhall53> :)
[03:08] <c0nv1ct> my mom fried her mobo and corrupted her XP install... she couldnt find her XP disks, so guess what she got? :P
[03:08] <c0nv1ct> old lady has to learn linux now :D
[03:09] <intelikey> mhall53 you do know that to enable anything that's commented out in there you just remove the single # from the start of the line     right ?
[03:09] <intelikey> never remove  ##
[03:09] <mhall53> ok
[03:09] <pollyo> Hello
[03:10] <pollyo> Any idea how I can get k3b to recognize mp3 and/or burn cd's?
[03:11] <castoff> pollyo: did you runk3bsetup?
[03:11] <Iwonder> pollyo: can you be more specific?
[03:11] <intelikey> !mp3 | pollyo
[03:11] <ubotu> pollyo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <pollyo> castoff: No.  I didn't realize it had a setup.
[03:11] <pollyo> ubotu: I looked but it appears to be gnome specific.
[03:12] <pollyo> intelikey: isn't that gnome specific?
[03:12] <intelikey> no   the howto may sujest gnome apps but you can use kde apps in their place.
[03:12] <mhall53> is there any program that will install sources tar.gz  automatic
[03:13] <intelikey> i.e.  gksudo  translates to   kdesu   and gedit   to kate
[03:13] <pollyo> intelikey: I'll take another look.
[03:13] <pollyo> brb
[03:13] <castoff> pollyo: also look at kaffeine for ripping/playing mp3's
[03:13] <intelikey> vlc is good
[03:14] <eilker> i got my login screen again via kdm, but searching for nice themes
[03:14] <intelikey> via kdm ?
[03:14] <eilker> :D
[03:14] <eilker> *gdm
[03:14] <intelikey> i thought you were installing.... yeah that.
[03:14] <pollyo> castoff: Will do.
[03:17] <intelikey> most pelple spend longer setting up bootsplash then looking at it...
[03:17] <eilker> what about 3D ?
[03:17] <intelikey> what about it ?
[03:18] <eilker> do u like it ? or is it necessary ?
[03:18] <intelikey> then/than
[03:18] <intelikey> eilker i'm a console user.  heh.   haven't seen a  gui this day.
[03:19] <eilker> sorry man, i forgot it :) r u in links2 now ?
[03:19] <intelikey> not atm
[03:19] <intelikey> re writing some scripts...
[03:20] <eilker> yeah, i tried for shutdown and reboot script too cause of kdm
[03:21] <Chetwin> How can I tell if my hard drive has gone bad?
[03:21] <intelikey> heh   why did you disable ctrl+alt+del in the inittab ?
[03:21] <andy_> Hi, can anyone help me with networkmanager? when I try to connect to my WPA network, It brings up a box to type in my WPA password, but after I type in my password, the connect button is disabled. Does anyone know a quick fix?
[03:22] <intelikey> Chetwin badblocks can do a sserface scan in either read or read/write mode.
[03:22] <Chetwin> that's the package name badblocks?
[03:22] <intelikey> it's installed.
[03:22] <intelikey> cli
[03:22] <castoff> 0andy_: if using kubuntu then use knetwork-manager
[03:22] <eilker> intelikey>: i didnt know it :lol:
[03:22] <castoff> andy_: if using kubuntu then use knetwork-manager
[03:23] <intelikey> sudo badblocks /dev/hd?
[03:23] <andy_> I meant knetwork-manager
[03:23] <intelikey> eilker :)
[03:23] <andy_> sorry
[03:23] <Chetwin> Sweet, I tried using smartmontools, but it's unworkable to my feeble mind
[03:23] <Iwonder|NotHere> andy_:  is there a networks section in control panel?
[03:23] <castoff> andy_: is wpasuplicant installed?
[03:24] <Iwonder> in concole type iwconfig --help
[03:24] <andy_> yes
[03:24] <Chetwin> Thanks all
[03:24] <intelikey> eilker well for future referance.  drop to a console (no need to login) and ctrl+alt+del   you can press the power buton at the bios read if you want power off.  if not it will reboot.
[03:24] <andy_> when I change it to The WPA enterprise, the connect button changes back
[03:25] <Chetwin> I'll be back with a booting issue I have in a minute
[03:25] <andy_> wpasupplicant is installed
[03:25] <castoff> andy_: type a long string in the passphrase and see if the connect button sall of a suuden appears
[03:26] <andy_> like a lot of characters?
[03:26] <eilker> intelikey>: thanx man
[03:26] <owner_> for some reason when try to play a song with amaroK it goes throught the tracks very fast and no sound comes out of the speakers...anyone know how to fix that?
[03:26] <castoff> andy_: yes shared secret must be a certain number of minimum chasrs
[03:27] <Goontz> owner_: Mine does that too...I have no idea
[03:27] <intelikey> it like two hot key combos of three keys each.     :)   or one could  alt+sysrq+r  alt+sysrq+u alt+sysrq+b   heh but that's like last resort rebooting
[03:27] <andy_> my password is 12 characters
[03:28] <castoff> andy_: have you checked your card supports wpa under kubuntu?
[03:28] <owner_> The only thing that will play the songs is XMMS music player
[03:28] <andy_> yeah, it worked just fine at my other house
[03:28] <intelikey> rolling through the tracks quickly is normally because of the wrong output device selected.
[03:29] <intelikey> owner_ Goontz ^
[03:29] <andy_> I had been manually editing my /etc/network/interfaces file every time I changed networks
[03:29] <andy_> but then I discovered knetwork-manager
[03:29] <intelikey> or possably unsupported format.
[03:29] <intelikey> !mp3
[03:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:30] <maxslm2003> Could someone help me when I start up Kubuntu it puts me into command line I had to do ctrl+alt+f7 to get into the OS which is good and all but beryl is working this way
[03:31] <castoff> andy_: sorry you have me stumped
[03:31] <maxslm2003> I am somewhat new to all this but I think i am learning fast, so i could be something stupid i did
[03:31] <andy_> ok, i'll keep trying, thanks
[03:32] <Iwonder|NotHere> maxslm2003:  are you possibly starting in single user mode?
[03:32] <owner_> ya, I am trying to play MP3 but I thought I had MP3 plugins installed
[03:32] <maxslm2003> how do i know if i am
[03:32] <Iwonder> do you have multiple choices in grub?
[03:33] <maxslm2003> yes
[03:33] <Iwonder> did you a different one?
[03:33] <maxslm2003> like when I first boot that grub loader?
[03:33] <Iwonder> yeah
[03:34] <maxslm2003> wait what do u mean by "did you a different one?" if u r asking if I choice a different one no i didnt
[03:35] <Iwonder> yes did you try a different choice,i believe i have 2 per kernel,one loads kdm(graphical login) one loads console login(i can login,type sudo kdm)
[03:36] <Iwonder> i dunno if i did it,or if its default kubuntu behavior
[03:37] <maxslm2003> yea that is what i have i never change the setting to the recovery mode or what ever it is call let me reboot i try selecting the normal one to see if that works brb
[03:38] <intelikey> :)
[03:39] <Iwonder> damn,my updater seems to be hung
[03:42] <maxslm2003> nope that didnt work
[03:47] <KrAmMeR> how do i get beryl to start up automatically?
[03:48] <Jucato> !beryl | KrAmMeR
[03:48] <ubotu> KrAmMeR: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:48] <Jucato> KrAmMeR: the /topic in #ubuntu-effects points to a wiki with the instructions how
[03:50] <KrAmMeR> k
[03:50] <KrAmMeR> thanks
[03:50] <Bi||aBong> i have 108 process running in kde, i need kill process when i started kde
[03:50] <Bi||aBong> how i can do this?
[03:53] <crackhead_25> question: how do you set up a new printer from the commandline??
[03:55] <Slynderdale> Where do I find libgphoto2-2?
[03:57] <Slynderdale> !libgphoto2
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgphoto2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <Slynderdale> !libgphoto
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgphoto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <ffffu> what's the line to add in sources.list if i got the edgy dvd and i wanna update from it?
[03:59] <Jucato> !info libgphoto2-2 | Slynderdale
[03:59] <ubotu> slynderdale: libgphoto2-2: gphoto2 digital camera library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 671 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[03:59] <Slynderdale> wine: Depends: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[03:59] <mhall53> best irc client for linux is?
[03:59] <Slynderdale> EH, it won't let me install the latest version of wine
[04:00] <Jucato> !best
[04:00] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:00] <mhall53> !wowzers
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wowzers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <crackhead_25> ubotu: do you know how to setup a printer from the commandline? i can't seem to get cups or any other of the gui controllers to set it up. they all keep hanging.
[04:03] <ffffu> what's the line to add in sources.list if i got the edgy dvd and i wanna update from it?
[04:04] <jhutchins> crackhead_25: Dude, ubotu is a bot.
[04:04] <jhutchins> crackhead_25: Try setting it up with cups.
[04:05] <jhutchins> crackhead_25: 	http://tinyurl.com/3csnpd May help
[04:05] <jhutchins> crackhead_25: Real compelling nic there.
[04:05] <ffffu> how to run synatic package manager????? is there one in edgy?
[04:05] <crackhead_25> thanks.. cups has been hanging every time i try to use it
[04:05] <jhutchins> ffffu: p
[04:05] <crackhead_25> cups won't even load on 127.0.0.1:631
[04:07] <ffffu> what's the line to add in sources.list if i got the edgy dvd and i wanna update from it?
[04:09] <ffffu> !apt-cdrom
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <nonuda_> !beryl
[04:11] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:13] <beta> !nvidia
[04:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:14] <zouzou85> hi guys, how do you change the language of your box?
[04:14] <zouzou85> I have english , but i want french!, any Ideas?
[04:15] <zouzou85> I installed Language Support, and Language-support-fr, but i don't know how to access them!
[04:16] <zouzou85> no IDEASSSS!!!!????
[04:17] <beta> is that right all i gotta do to install the nvidia driver is to apt-get "nvidia-glx"...there inst any specific package for my type of graphic card?
[04:17] <beta> just all nvidia drivers in one package?
[04:18] <beta> seems too easy ;)
[04:18] <beta> inst = isnt
[04:20] <maxslm2003> beta: well it really is that easy
[04:20] <beta> ok cool
[04:20] <maxslm2003> beta: it worked for me
[04:20] <beta> thx
[04:24] <beta> you can attach a terminal to konq file browser
[04:25] <beta> is it possible to attach one to every application that runs in konqueror
[04:25] <beta> i mean the help desk for instance
[04:25] <beta> it seems like for a noob at least it all runs in konq
[04:25] <mhall53> how do i run something in a terminal as root
[04:26] <kaoticevil> mhall53: sudo <command>
[04:26] <dystopianray> mhall53: use sudo
[04:26] <mhall53> i get a error when i use that command
[04:26] <dystopianray> mhall53: what is the error?
[04:27] <mhall53> hold i dont want to get in flooding trouble
[04:27] <mhall53> sudo apt-get remove grub
[04:27] <mhall53> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unable)
[04:28] <Jucato> is adept closed?
[04:28] <mhall53> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is anotheress using it?
[04:28] <mhall53> no its open
[04:28] <Jucato> and why are you removing grub?
[04:28] <mhall53> to install gfxboot
[04:28] <Jucato> huh? gfxboot is not a bootloader. you still need grub for it to work
[04:29] <mhall53> can i post ubuntu forum link?
[04:30] <Jucato> yes. the link
[04:30] <mhall53> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855
[04:31] <crackhead_25> jhutchins: i tried that page, but the same thing is happening.
[04:31] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to setup a new printer via commandline?
[04:31] <crackhead_25> jhutchins: do you think uninstalling cups and reinstalling it will do something?
[04:32] <Jucato> mhall53: ah I see... I'm not sure how updated that is... it's almost a year ago. gfxboot is available in the repositories
[04:34] <mhall53> ok
[04:35] <beta> !paste
[04:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:37] <beta> hm, when trying to install the nvidia drivers i got the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11142/
[04:37] <beta> what should i do
[04:38] <beta> the nvidia splash screen didnt came up after restarting kde
[04:39] <dystopianray> beta: edit the driver section in xorg.conf from 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[04:39] <pollyo> Is there a system info like in windows?  That will tell what speed the computer is and how much ram it has?
[04:39] <pafnutiy> hi all
[04:39] <dasickis> pollyo: run ksysguard
[04:40] <beta> dystopianray: the thing is in the xorg.conf it says 6800 LE which is my graphic card ima complet noob so im not sure
[04:40] <dystopianray> beta: just change 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[04:40] <beta> dystopianray: what does the entry "nv" or "nvidia" do?
[04:40] <pollyo> dasickis: Thank you.
[04:40] <dystopianray> beta: 'nv' is the 2d-only driver, 'nvidia' is the 3d capable driver that you're trying to use
[04:41] <beta> i see thx alot
[04:41] <beta> any idea why it gave me error? i could translate the german lines
[04:41] <beta> +the
[04:43] <dystopianray> beta: it tells you why, /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum has not been updated since you changed your xorg.conf and it's refusing to automatically proceed, it tells you what manual step to take
[04:43] <Jucato> beta: how abou the "sudo nvidia-xconfig" command?
[04:44] <beta> one moment
[04:45] <beta> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <beta> hm no wait...i did everything according to the manual....let me recheck
[04:45] <beta> no = now
[04:47] <beta> Jucato: in the handbook it didnt say anything about "sudo nvidia-glx-config" just to do "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[04:47] <Jucato> which handbook?
[04:47] <beta> Jucato: the kubuntu desktop guide that came with dappers help center
[04:47] <beta> !nvidia
[04:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:48] <Jucato> ah hm....
[04:48] <Jucato> I actually don't know the technical difference between the "nvidia-xconfig" and "nvidia-glx-config enable" commnands
[04:49] <Jucato> beta: btw, that was "sudo nvidia-xconfig" (the one that I gave)
[04:49] <beta> oh right
[04:49] <beta> sorry
[04:49] <beta> but still it doesnt say anyway to that
[04:49] <beta> anywhere
[04:50] <Jucato> beta: you're on Dapper?
[04:50] <beta> Jucato: yep
[04:50] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:51] <Jucato> i guess the command I gave is for edgy only...
[04:51] <Jucato> or later versions of nvidia-glx
[04:51] <beta> Jucato: i went through that as well and its the same as in the handbook
[04:51] <beta> yeah for edgy it says that
[04:51] <Jucato> strange... I used the same command on Dapper before and didn't give me any problems
[04:51] <beta> sudo nvidia-xconfig?
[04:52] <Jucato> yeah
[04:52] <Jucato> I think even way back in Breezy.. but can't remember :D
[04:52] <beta> yes there werent errors for me as well..it told me it had written a new xorg.conf
[04:53] <Jucato> well that's not an error. it's a notice. because it will really write a new xorg.conf :)
[04:53] <beta> is "nvidia-glx-config enable"" supposed to do just the same?
[04:53] <beta> (write a new xorg.conf?)
[04:54] <Jucato> yeah
[04:54] <Skuller> i have a nvidia 5700VE and beryl seems to lag my system a lot....is there anything i should/can do?
[04:55] <maxslm2003> Can someone plz help me?
[04:55] <dystopianray> Skuller: turn off beryl effects or upgrade your computer
[04:55] <dystopianray> maxslm2003: no
[04:55] <Jucato> !someone | maxslm2003
[04:55] <ubotu> maxslm2003: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:55] <beta> Jucato: now this is strange...it has changed some of the entrys from nv to nvida
[04:55] <beta> oO
[04:55] <dystopianray> beta: exactly what I told you to do earlier
[04:55] <Skuller> dystopianray: the latter is not an option...and the former defeats the purpose of using beryl
[04:56] <dystopianray> Skuller: stop using beryl if you don't like it
[04:56] <Jucato> beta: so it works? :D
[04:56] <Skuller> dystopianray: i think my card should be able to handle that much load without problem
[04:56] <beta> dystopianray: yes, i was about to do that when jucato came up with tha command
[04:56] <Skuller> dystopianray: what the??...i LOVE it :D
[04:57] <beta> Jucato: probably...but i guess you have no idea as well why the correct command for dapper fails while the edgy ones worked? ;)
[04:57] <maxslm2003> Sorry didnt want to make anyone mad I reboot and I start in command prompt
[04:57] <Skuller> dystopianray: another thing worth mentioning....my nvidia-settings shows my bus is runnin at 4X...whereas the card+bus is capable of doing 8X
[04:57] <Jucato> um nope :)
[04:57] <beta> :)
[04:57] <dystopianray> Skuller: your card isn't terribly good at all, it's not surprising that you're having performance issues
[04:57] <maxslm2003> I get this error kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot
[04:57] <beta> uhm, change every "nv" entry to "nvidia" (some are still left "nv") ?
[04:58] <dystopianray> Skuller: what does 'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status' say?
[04:58] <Jucato> hm...
[04:58] <MistaED> maxslm2003: that's not an error, that just means there's no hibernation image to boot from afaik
[04:58] <Skuller> dystopianray: ok let me rephrase my query...is there a possibility that getting my card to run at 8X instead of 4X will help the situation?...if Yes then how do i do so?
[04:58] <dystopianray> beta: there should only be one 'nv' entry to be changed to 'nvidia'
[04:58] <maxslm2003> mistaED: so how can i fix it
[04:58] <dystopianray> Skuller: agp isn't going to do anything for you
[04:59] <Skuller> dystopianray: AGP : 4X, Fast Writes : Disabled
[04:59] <MistaED> maxslm2003: that issue is probably unrelated to your real problem, unless that's what you were trying to do, hibernating your machine
[05:00] <dystopianray> Skuller: enabling fast writes might help, but agp 8x won't do anything
[05:00] <Skuller> dystopianray: umm but arent 8x cards supposed to be faster with an 8x bus?
[05:00] <Skuller> ohh
[05:00] <beta> what does a "#..." do in a config file?
[05:00] <maxslm2003> no it wasnt but i keep getting it come up each time
[05:00] <Skuller> dystopianray: how do i do that?
[05:00] <maxslm2003> this is after i installed beryl my first restart after it
[05:00] <dystopianray> Skuller: the cards are the same speed, only the bus is faster, and it's very unlikely you'd be saturing the bus
[05:00] <dystopianray> beta: indicates a comment, a line to be ignored
[05:01] <beta> i knew # was to ignore a line thought it mighzt be to ignore a whole section
[05:01] <dystopianray> Skuller: try this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Nvidia_Driver_AGP_FastWrite_and_Side_Band_Addressing
[05:01] <Skuller> dystopianray: so my card doesnt even process enough data to saturate a 4x bus?
[05:01] <dystopianray> Skuller: probably not, it's a fairly crap card
[05:02] <tehdot> problem: Ubuntu recognizes wireless NIC, sees networks but will not connect to anything. Any ideas?
[05:02] <Skuller> dystopianray: :(....so why is it an 8x card?
[05:02] <beta> basically i have another device section for a second gpu i suppose...uhm it is uncommented correctly i ask myself
[05:02] <beta> does it matter at all?
[05:02] <dystopianray> Skuller: becuase 8x is more marketable than 4x
[05:02] <dystopianray> Skuller: the agp speed has nothing to do with the speed of the card itself
[05:02] <beta> thats the one still having "nv" as driver
[05:03] <beta> hm, well lets see if it works
[05:03] <beta> ghave to restart kde
[05:04] <dystopianray> Skuller: i believe they recommend at least a 6xxx series nvidia card for decent beryl performance
[05:05] <tehdot> anybody have an idea why my nic will see my wireless, but won't connect to anything?
[05:05] <dystopianray> tehdot: what is the wireless chipset?
[05:05] <beta> ok looks a lot better
[05:06] <beta> seems to be working at least i got the nvdia splash
[05:06] <beta> can i apt-get something to test if 3d is working?
[05:06] <beta> or any other quick method?
[05:06] <dystopianray> beta: glxgears -printfps
[05:06] <beta> thx
[05:07] <nonuda_> how do i install my pcmcia modem?, lspcmcia show me : socket 1 Bridge: [yenta_cardbus]  [bus ID: 0000;00;03.1]  socket 1 Device 0:  [serial_cs]  [bus ID: 1.0] 
[05:07] <dystopianray> nonuda_: is it a winmodem?
[05:07] <dystopianray> nonuda_: show us the lspci output, that lspcmcia output is useless
[05:08] <nonuda_> ok
[05:10] <jay> Every now and then my sound just does not work.... what troubleshooting can I perform to figure what's wrong... When it doesn't work.. a coupl restarts usually fixes it
[05:11] <nonuda_> here it is, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11145/
[05:11] <nonuda_> but i guess itsnot a winmodem, btw scanModem didn't detect it
[05:12] <pollyo> Anyone know if a GeForce 6200 would be a good choice for Kubuntu?
[05:12] <dystopianray> nonuda_: is the card inserted?
[05:12] <dystopianray> pollyo: it's a rubbish card, but if you don't play games it's adequate
[05:13] <nonuda_> yup
[05:13] <pollyo> dystopianray: It has to be better then the card on this old dell PIII.
[05:13] <pollyo> dystopianray: I'm only willing to pay $30 if I can get it on ebay.
[05:13] <beta> ok working
[05:13] <dystopianray> pollyo: well it's fine if you're on the cheap
[05:13] <beta> still 1280x1024 is awfully small
[05:14] <dystopianray> beta: add some modes to your xorg.conf
[05:14] <pollyo> dystopianray: Does Linux have some good games?
[05:14] <beta> it seems everytime you buy a bigger tft it shrinks to 15 " again after awhile your using it ;)
[05:14] <dystopianray> pollyo: there is doom3, quake4, whatever runs in wine, etc..
[05:15] <beta> dystopianray: what do you mean...not running it at the default resolution?
[05:15] <dystopianray> beta: it might be a good idea to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and select the nvidia driver and the resolutions that you want to use
[05:15] <Skuller> dystopianray: oh sorry i couldn't reply...had to go....well that is sad about the 6XXX onwards series requirement for beryl...
[05:15] <dystopianray> Skuller: it's not a requirement, it's a recommendation
[05:16] <dystopianray> Skuller: did you try turning on fastwrites?
[05:16] <pollyo> Skuller: Do you know if beryl will run on a GeForece 6200?
[05:16] <Skuller> dystopianray: my bad....i jst came back and am going through the page
[05:16] <beta> dystopianray: uhm, i thought is just installed and configured the right driver? "nvidia" and "nv" are the only choices right (if you have an nvidia one)?
[05:16] <beta> -s
[05:16] <nonuda_> dystopianray : the card has been inserted
[05:16] <dystopianray> beta: you're saying your resolution is too small
[05:16] <Skuller> pollyo: beryl should run...its just that your system will lag in doing things
[05:17] <dystopianray> pollyo: it'll run, but the 6200 is a POS, so don't except great performance
[05:17] <pollyo> Skuller: Where would I find the suggested requirements for beryl?
[05:17] <Skuller> pollyo: google it....or ask dystopianray
[05:17] <beta> dystopianray: sorry...you got me wrong, my bad...i feel its too small....i just seem to get spoiled too soon when buying a bigger screen
[05:17] <pollyo> dystopianray: I'm not sure if it is the video or the computer setup here but when I run google earth I can watch it draw the earth frame by frame.
[05:18] <dystopianray> pollyo: what video card do you have?
[05:18] <beta> i think verything is setup ok now....nvidia driver at 1280x1024
[05:18] <pollyo> dystopianray: In kde video setup or whatever it is called it is nv tnt2 or something like that let me look again.
[05:19] <dystopianray> pollyo: ok, that is a very old card, so google earth will run poorly on it
[05:19] <nonuda_> dystopianray : ??
[05:19] <dystopianray> nonuda_: I don't know what else you can do, pcmcia cards usually show up in lspci, but in this case it's not
[05:19] <pollyo> dystopianray: That is why I was looking for a cheap upgrade on ebay.
[05:20] <pollyo> dystopianray: Do you think that the 6200 on a PIII will run beryl?
[05:20] <dystopianray> pollyo: yes, it'll run, just not well
[05:20] <beta> hm, im constantly blown away what a joy it is to be working under kde
[05:20] <beta> compared to windows
[05:20] <nonuda_> oic
[05:20] <beta> its like a new age ;)
[05:20] <pollyo> beta: I am amazed at how much faster things appear to work next to windows.
[05:21] <beta> makes you think if you actually need to buy that mac
[05:21] <nonuda_> btw, as u see, i have ATI Rage Mobility, can i run beryl, currently gxifo show me that direct rendering = no
[05:22] <beta> pollyo: if your referring to the technical side i cant say anything on it so fat...im a complete noob and i just allowed myself to explore kde a bit befor egetting back to the technical stuff
[05:22] <beta> its great
[05:22] <beta> fat = far
[05:23] <pollyo> Anyone know why I wouldn't be able to change settings under System Settings / Sharing / File Sharing?
[05:23] <dystopianray> pollyo: did you click the 'administrator mode' button?
[05:23] <pollyo> dystopianray: Yes.
[05:24] <nonuda_> !modem
[05:24] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:24] <dystopianray> pollyo: did you get the password prompt?
[05:24] <pollyo> dystopianray:  Yes and I put the password in.
[05:24] <dystopianray> pollyo: and you didn't get the file sharing config?
[05:25] <pollyo> dystopianray: I see it but it is not active.
[05:25] <pollyo> dystopianray: I can not click on anything or make changes.
[05:25] <dystopianray> pollyo: ah, well I don't know what could be causing that
[05:26] <pollyo> dystopianray: Ok.  Thanks for the attempt.
[05:27] <intelikey> why do i have to have locales installed,  that's silly on a system that uses LC_ALL=C     but if i remove it it takes everything except the MBR with it....
[05:27] <intelikey> libc6 depends on locales   that's stupid...
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[05:29] <intelikey> pollyo what's the issue ?
[05:29] <beta> !dmix
[05:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:30] <nonuda_> !pcmcia
[05:30] <meme-1> Anyone out there familar with Amaya (web development prg)?  The darn thing exits immediately upon starting.
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <meme-1> I am looking for a good HTML/PHP editor (at least close enough to Dreamweaver) - so far I've found nothing! I thought Amaya would be a winner but I can't even get it to run.
[05:31] <pollyo> intelikey: Can't get advanced file sharing to allow me to make changes.
[05:32] <pollyo> intelikey: I click admin and the box comes up all shaded and will not allow changes,
[05:32] <Slynderdale> meme-1: Notepad? ;p
[05:32] <intelikey> ummm samba config ?
[05:32] <firecrotch> meme-1: vi? emacs?
[05:32] <meme-1> Since jumping over to Ubuntu, I am finding it is not easy to replace all the polished tools I used under XP.
[05:33] <meme-1> Okay... you folks are not funny!!!! lol
[05:33] <meme-1> Is there actually a "notepad" for linux?  Why bother?
[05:33] <intelikey> "all the polished tools I used under XP"   :)
[05:33] <guuuuu> hey, anyone knows a repository where i can found wine?
[05:33] <pollyo> intelikey: I think so.  It is on KDE under System Settings / Sharing / File Sharing
[05:33] <firecrotch> meme-1: In all seriousness though, I've found Kate to be very nice for HTML and PHP
[05:33] <Slynderdale> intelikey: Isn't that an oxxymoron?
[05:34] <guuuuu> meme-1: what about "vi" "nano" "kedit"? maybe openoffice can save as notepad file
[05:34] <guuuuu> hey, does anyone knows a repository where i can found wine?
[05:34] <intelikey> pollyo could probably do some manual adjusting that would then allow that.  but i'm network illiterate so don't ask me where.
[05:35] <Slynderdale> !wine
[05:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:35] <intelikey> Slynderdale seems that way to me...
[05:35] <Slynderdale> guuuuu: ^^
[05:35] <pollyo> I can see options for "Enable Local Netowrk File Sharing" it hs both "Simple sharing" and "Advanced Sharing"
[05:35] <guuuuu> i want a repository for it
[05:35] <intelikey> or maybe and oxsymoron  :)
[05:35] <beta> meme-1: i read nvu comes close to dreamweaver...but i have ni idea...never used it
[05:35] <meme-1> intelkey: yes...  polished... hey... come-on... there are some great tools for Linux... (Kstars is amazing) but am also finding a lot of programs work better under wIndows XP (such as "Scorched 3D - it is terrible under Gnome/Ubuntu)
[05:35] <Slynderdale> guuuuu: It has the repository on thes site
[05:36] <beta> ni = no
[05:36] <beta> !nvu
[05:36] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB
[05:36] <meme-1> beta: thx... I will chk out nvu!
[05:36] <guuuuu> no, there isn`t
[05:37] <meme-1> firecrotch: I will chk out Kate as well.
[05:37] <Skuller> hey guys...my agp is running at 4X in kubun...(nvidia-settings)..instead of 8X which it should..anyone knows how to 'fix' it?
[05:38] <meme-1> Changing topic.... anyone get Scorched 3D to work well under Ubuntu... this game is amazing on XP!
[05:38] <guuuuu> my universe repository is running but dont find it
[05:38] <intelikey> pollyo if you don't get anywhere with it in here maybe someone in #ubuntu or ##linux can help with it.   maybe just tell what you are trying to do and don't mention how you are trying to get there, they may have an alternate approach that will work for you.
[05:39] <beta> is dmix a part of alsa and enabled per default on dapper and up?
[05:39] <meme-1> Scotched 3D is so cool.... that it is seriously the first and only game I've played in years. Too busy programming otherwise.
[05:40] <intelikey> !dmix
[05:40] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:40] <beta> the thing is i tried to play several audio files using different engines to see if simultanous sound is working and it did
[05:41] <beta> but when i had sound from jva app. amarok crashed complaining another sound device was in use
[05:41] <beta> how do i really verify if simultanous sound is working?
[05:42] <intelikey> cause java didn't play nice with the audio divice
[05:43] <meme-1> beta: sorry to jump in... but I was curious too... I ran both XMMS and VLC playing different MP3 songs... they both play simultaneously
[05:44] <meme-1> Not sure if this was what your conversation was about though.
[05:44] <beta> meme-1: yup here to
[05:44] <beta> intelikey: what exactly do you mean by that?
[05:44] <pollyo> intelikey: OK.  I'll give it a shot.
[05:45] <meme-1> I am SOOOO happy to have VLC working! Not sure why ubuntu doesn't default to this player. So much better than the one pre-installed.
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> meme-1: its not part of KDE
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> or GNOME
[05:45] <intelikey> beta i mena that java as per your test was accessing the audio device as opposed to sending it's sound to the sound server.
[05:45] <meme-1> yes I know... but it should be.
[05:46] <beta> meme-1: i guess its preference dialogs would be too complicated to comply with the kde standards...wild guess only though
[05:46] <intelikey> only one process can access the audio device at any given time.  that's why kde uses artsd as it sound server everything can dump sound to arts and it can send to the device.
[05:47] <beta> but to be true so far i think coffeine is great as video player
[05:47] <intelikey> beta it's not free
[05:47] <beta> oh there you go
[05:48] <Slynderdale> You know its probily cheaper to build your own MP3/Music player then buy an iPod? ;p
[05:48] <intelikey> gnome or kde can't just build non-free apps into their packages and still call them FOSS
[05:49] <beta> intelikey: hm, i got some rrors when installing sun java..so i hope the sound problem will get fixed if i actually fix that ;)
[05:50] <beta> hm, but i guess that means i should switch back to arts from alsa
[05:51] <intelikey> you have to answer yes to the EULA durring the install of java.   see the howto's/wiki's
[05:51] <intelikey> !java
[05:51] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:51] <xavior2180> what's the difference between universe and multiverse?
[05:52] <intelikey> a buck two ninty five.
[05:52] <intelikey> no really they are described on the !repos page i think
[05:52] <xavior2180> !repos?
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repos? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <intelikey> !repos
[05:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:53] <beta> no i got it installed...but something went wrong when i tried to set sun as default
[05:54] <beta> got some errors there
[05:54] <nonuda_> how do i sharing my internet connection?
[05:55] <xavior2180> intelikey: thanks :)
[05:57] <intelikey> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components <<< actual page.  but it is linked from the other...
[06:06] <beta> how does the web archiver work
[06:06] <beta> it was always a bitch when i tried to use webarchivers
[06:06] <beta> never worked
[06:07] <beta> i mean does it actually work
[06:07] <beta> not the technical side of it
[06:08] <beta> it seems to just save an archive format
[06:08] <beta> no need to put in how far in a directory structure you want to go
[06:08] <ssmasud> is there a utility in UBUNTU for remote login like in windows we had PUTTY??
[06:09] <Jucato> beta: konqueror's web archive tool?
[06:09] <beta> Jucato: yep
[06:09] <intelikey> ssmasud oh windows finally got something like ssh vnc and friends... ?   glad to hear it...
[06:10] <Jucato> beta: yeah it works. it creates a .war archive which is basically just an archive like gzip
[06:10] <Jucato> you can view it directly in Konqueror or extract the contents.
[06:10] <mike__> i suck at lifffe
[06:11] <beta> Jucato: with other tools i could never put in the correct value for how far in the structure it would crawl...and it seems almost impossible to me to do anyways...how could you guess the structure of a complex website
[06:11] <mike__> using Konversation how do i directly message someone?
[06:11] <beta> hm, will give it a try
[06:11] <beta> would be awesome if it actually worked
[06:11] <Jucato> mike__: double click the nick in the list? or /query nick
[06:11] <mike__> what if they are not in this room?
[06:12] <Jucato> beta: like any other "Save HTML" utility, it just saves the current page and the files directly used by that page
[06:12] <ssmasud> is there something like PUTTY in UBUNTU??
[06:12] <Jucato> mike__: /query <nick>
[06:12] <beta> Jucato: ah dangit
[06:12] <firecrotch> ssmasud: ssh :)
[06:12] <Jucato> !info putty | ssmasud
[06:12] <ubotu> ssmasud: putty: Telnet/SSH client for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.58-4 (edgy), package size 270 kB, installed size 672 kB
[06:14] <mrp193> isei12345?
[06:14] <beta> quick question: can i make bash highlight error messages?
[06:14] <beta> or send them to a different terminal..something to set them apart form the output?
[06:15] <intelikey> 2> /dev/tty2
[06:16] <FrankBurns> can somebody quickly tell me how to identify what this computers video card is
[06:16] <beta> intelikey: uhm, you mean a secon terminal session?
[06:16] <ssmasud> if i use SSH to remotely connect any server.....what do i type in as the password
[06:16] <FrankBurns> using dapper
[06:16] <intelikey> beta command args  2> /dev/tty2
[06:16] <beta> intelikey: what does it do?
[06:16] <intelikey> any tty number.  but you will probably have to set the permission on the device
[06:17] <Jucato> hi waves
[06:17] <Jucato> er.. I mean hi Admiral_Chicago!
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going
[06:17] <Jucato> not fine.. a bit hot in here...
[06:17] <Jucato> er what happened?
[06:18] <firecrotch> ssmasud: You would use the password (on the server) for whatever user you're trying to login is as
[06:18] <FrankBurns> is there no way to retrieve this computers video card info
[06:18] <mike__> Can a nice person please give a newbie(me) some help installing a few drivers?
[06:18] <mrp193> Can a nice person please give a newbie(me) some help installing a few drivers?
[06:18] <ssmasud> firecrotch.....its not working....but when i use putty...it is working
[06:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: changed to Wordpress
[06:18] <Jucato> FrankBurns: from KInfoCenter or "lspci | grep -i vga" in Konsole
[06:18] <firecrotch> ssmasud:  ssh username@host
[06:19] <intelikey> stderr is denoted as 2 if you redirrect 2 (stderr) to a console it prints anything that would have came to the working console/terminal to the other device.     you can use the device for the x-terminal if you like
[06:19] <FrankBurns> thanx
[06:19] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: aaah. now I know someone I can ask about wp stuff :P
[06:19] <firecrotch> ssmasud:  otherwise it tries to login as the user that you're logged into your machine as
[06:19] <Admiral_Chicago> yea...i'm not a big fan of it, maybe after I hack on CSS
[06:19] <laptop> DOES ubuntu have a registry??
[06:20] <firecrotch> laptop: nope
[06:20] <intelikey> beta one could do something more reasonable like    command args 2> error.log ;less error.log
[06:20] <beta> intelikey: urgs....ill need a while to make sense of that...(poor english)
[06:20] <Jucato> laptop: no. and this is not #ubuntu :D
[06:20] <beta> ;)
[06:20] <laptop> every thing is standalone??
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> laptop: no
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> define stand alone
[06:20] <beta> intelikey:  so error.log would send not only the bash errors but all to that terminal?
[06:21] <ssmasud> firecrotch....thanks dude
[06:21] <Jucato> what does a registry have to do with it, laptop?
[06:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Kubuntu is modular
[06:21] <intelikey> beta if you wanted all output redirrected you would use  > location 2>&1
[06:21] <laptop> requires not association thru registry
[06:21] <firecrotch> ssmasud:  no problem
[06:22] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: maybe you can make more sense of his question... I'm out for a while
[06:22] <beta> intelikey: ok ill note that down...will get back to it later
[06:22] <beta> intelikey: just to simply highlight the rrors (different color) aint possible though?
[06:22] <intelikey> beta only redirrecting 2 means only redirrecting what goes to stderr   only redirrecting 1  means only redirrecting what goes to stdout
[06:22] <Admiral_Chicago> laptop: why would we need a registry?
[06:23] <firecrotch> Hmm... well, in Windows, the registry is where the config settings for everything is stored
[06:23] <intelikey> beta normally the output of stderr and stdout are printed on screen
[06:23] <firecrotch> I would compare it to /etc
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> or ~/.
[06:23] <intelikey> beta it is possable. but you don't want to dive in that deep.
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> or /dev
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> scratch that...
[06:24] <mrp193> Would someone please be able to help me install a few drivers that i am having trouble with?
[06:24] <firecrotch> mrp193: I'm sure someone could help if you told us what drivers you're trying to install :)
[06:24] <beta> intelikey: damn...and i thought your first suggestion was complicated ;)
[06:24] <beta> thx a heap though
[06:25] <beta> will have too look at it later
[06:25] <intelikey> beta it would bassicly mean rewriting the vt to scan for E*: text and adding code to it.
[06:25] <mrp193> i am trying to install flash player and also nvidia video card drivers
[06:25] <mrp193> but i am geting weird errors with both of them
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> what program saves what i coppy and paste
[06:25] <intelikey> np
[06:25] <mrp193> i am extremely new to linus (8 hours new)
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> mrp193: which drivers
[06:25] <beta> allright, i will defintely not adding code anywhere soon ;)
[06:25] <mrp193> the driver for the video card is for an nvidia geforce 6600
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> mrp193: you need multiverse and backports
[06:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo
[06:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:26] <mrp193> what are those?
[06:26] <Admiral_Chicago> mrp193: ^^ they are links to servers that store the program
[06:26] <Admiral_Chicago> and depending on the repo, you can get various files...
[06:26] <intelikey> beta also you quickly find that some code monkeys use stderr when they should be outputing to sdtout  and that really gets to be a problem...
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> mrp193: or do this...go to pastebin.ca and paste everything in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> and send me the link
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i wated klipper
[06:28] <mrp193> why does this Error - artsmessage      Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting mean?
[06:28] <intelikey> beta some times it desirable to chuck the output in the trash and only look for errors    command > /dev/null   would normally do that but then you find apps writen to output everything to stderr and that  > /dev/null  doesn't change the output at all.
[06:29] <mrp193> how do i register? it keeps telling me that private message from unregistered users arent allowed
[06:31] <firecrotch> mrp193:  /msg NickServ REGISTER password emailaddress
[06:31] <intelikey> beta one more note.    piping everything into less can be very handy for searching the output    command args 2>&1 | less    then you can hit   /E:    and it will highlight E:  for you...   or   /bash:   and it will highlight  bash:   for you.
[06:31] <intelikey> man less
[06:31] <beta> ok thx
[06:31] <beta> will get the dictionary out later
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> no, you don't have to PM me, just send the link in the channel
[06:35] <firecrotch> !pm > mrp193
[06:36] <Jucato> !register | mrp193
[06:36] <ubotu> mrp193: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:36] <mrp193> i registered already
[06:37] <mrp193> okay here is my number 1 question.... what is this artsmessage sound server fatal error?
[06:37] <intelikey> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main locales 2.3.18.2 [3285kB]   <<<< i wish i could remove that package so it would stop updating it.
[06:38] <intelikey> /ignore *@* pm
[06:38] <intelikey> :)
[06:40] <mrp193> How can i install a .run file?
[06:40] <firecrotch> intelikey: How can I set like an allow list, where certain people can PM me?
[06:43] <intelikey> firecrotch that would be app specific.  i use bx what do you use ?
[06:44] <firecrotch> Gaim
[06:44] <intelikey> i don't even know if it's possable there...
[06:44] <firecrotch> intelikey: I suppose it would work just like for AIM
[06:44] <intelikey> sorry
[06:45] <intelikey> probably
[06:46] <firecrotch> intelikey: could you try to pm me?
[06:47] <dx11101> im logged in as a user into Kubuntu, what i want to do is create a task in KCron to shutdown at 1AM but it wont run because i am not root
[06:47] <dx11101> how do i make it work?
[06:47] <firecrotch> !sudo | dx11101
[06:47] <ubotu> dx11101: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:47] <dx11101> yeah but how do i make it work in KCron
[06:48] <dx11101> you have to be root to run shutdown -h now
[06:49] <dx11101> but i want to automate the task in KCron
[06:50] <dx11101> i hate sudo
[06:50] <dx11101> worst thing ever
[06:50] <mrp193> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[06:50] <mrp193>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[06:50] <mrp193> what do i do now?
[06:50] <firecrotch> dx11101:  Why do you think it's so bad?
[06:50] <dx11101> because
[06:51] <dx11101> im logged into linux as user like a good boy but i get problems because i cant run shutdown -h now in KCron
[06:51] <dx11101> unless i go into the command line and type sudo su
[06:52] <firecrotch> dx11101:  Open KCron as root with kdesu, then add the task
[06:52] <dx11101> how do you kdesu?
[06:52] <mrp193> hey fire? do you mind if i PM you?
[06:52] <mrp193> and ask you a question or 2?
[06:52] <firecrotch> !pm | mrp193
[06:52] <ubotu> mrp193: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:52] <dx11101> oops
[06:53] <dx11101> how do you KDESU fire?
[06:53] <mrp193> i just asked you if you would mine fire?
[06:53] <firecrotch> dx11101:  From Konsole, kdesu kcron
[06:53] <firecrotch> mrp193:  My point is to ask in here so others may help/benefit from the discussion
[06:53] <intelikey> alt+f2 kdesu kcron
[06:53] <mrp193> but no one was responding when i was asking in here
[06:54] <intelikey> flash for k8 ?
[06:54] <mrp193> okay my number 1 concern is my flah player 9 driver...
[06:54] <firecrotch> mrp193:  Then that would mean that no one here who is watching the channel has a clue about it
[06:54] <dx11101> so if i put the task under root, will the task still run if im logged in as a user?
[06:54] <mrp193> i keep geting this error....
[06:54] <mrp193> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[06:54] <mrp193>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[06:55] <dx11101> it means the installer is 32 bit
[06:55] <intelikey> yeah you aint gonna use that installer on a k8 system
[06:55] <intelikey> mrp193 ^
[06:55] <firecrotch> dx11101:  It _should_ run as whatever user set up the task, and it will run no matter who is logged in
[06:55] <mrp193> i just installed linux 8 hours ago and im kinda confused
[06:55] <mrp193> if i dont have to use that installer what do i have to do to get it to work?
[06:55] <intelikey> !flash
[06:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:56] <intelikey> i dont know if flash has a k8 release....
[06:56] <dx11101> thankyou for the help
[06:56] <mrp193> what is k8?
[06:56] <dx11101> good thing there aare people who know how to use linux :D
[06:56] <intelikey> amd 64
[06:57] <mrp193> ohhhh i get it
[06:57] <firecrotch> dx11101:  you're welcome :)
[06:57] <mrp193> can i install the non-64 bit ubuntu?
[06:57] <mrp193> or will that not work on my processer?
[06:57] <dx11101> kdesu will be handy i wasnt even aware of the command since i usually log in as root until recently
[06:57] <intelikey> mrp193 yes you can run i386 on a k8 system.
[06:58] <mrp193> i am sorry, what is i386?
[06:58] <firecrotch> dx11101:  just to let you know, kdesu is for graphical apps, sudo is for command line stuff
[06:58] <dx11101> i figured as much
[06:58] <dx11101> i knew about sudo already
[06:58] <madmax1234> is there an easy way to set up a vpn
[06:58] <mrp193> is that the non-64 bit verson?
[06:59] <madmax1234> !vpn
[06:59] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[06:59] <madmax1234> !vnc
[06:59] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:59] <dx11101> !vmware
[06:59] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:59] <Iwonder> anyone haD  any grub problems after edgy->feisty upgrade?
[06:59] <intelikey> mrp193 intel 80386 architecture   good for any k6-k8  i386-i786 system
[07:00] <intelikey> or in windows terms  it the 32 bit version.
[07:00] <beta> anyone knows where amarok looks for covers and how to edit that path?
[07:00] <mrp193> am i allowed to have both?
[07:01] <mrp193> will that work?
[07:01] <dx11101> 64 bit is not needed on the desktop yet, unless your plotting asteriod trajectories or something
[07:01] <dx11101> if you use linux to run irc and xmms use 32 bit for drivers
[07:01] <intelikey> !chroot | mrp193
[07:01] <ubotu> mrp193: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:02] <mrp193> okay, what if i do build 32 bit environments and install those files?
[07:02] <mrp193> will they work in 64bit?
[07:02] <dx11101> mixed mode is a bad idea
[07:02] <intelikey> i really think it would do the hardware makes a world of good if no one would buy a k8 box...
[07:02] <dx11101> some stuff wont work right
[07:03] <dx11101> you have to have both libraries 32 bit and 64 bit
[07:03] <mrp193> they dont even sell anything that is 32 bits now a days
[07:03] <mrp193> 64 bit is the standard
[07:03] <dx11101> who
[07:03] <dx11101> Processors?
[07:03] <mrp193> yes
[07:03] <dx11101> big deal
[07:03] <intelikey> dx11101 but a chroot can have both in their own local
[07:03] <firecrotch> beta: it uses Amazon
[07:03] <madmax1234> im looking for a program that is like pcanywhere that can handle and possible email its new ip
[07:04] <Skuller> hey can anyone explain me whats the deal with 32bit and 64 bit?
[07:04] <madmax1234> a program for a dynamic ip
[07:04] <dx11101> imagine if they made a 64 bit processor that wasnt back compatible with 32 bit code, it wouldnt sell a single box
[07:04] <beta> looked for lyrics in file browser navigation wanted to display them and the playback stops in main amarok and it puts "supposed lyrics" instead of the running song there oO
[07:05] <dx11101> the big deal with 64 bit is this
[07:05] <dx11101> you want 64 bit to have 64 bit then yay
[07:05] <firecrotch> madmax1234:  Are you trying to update your ip with dyndns or something?
[07:05] <beta> firecrotch: i thought the same first...but it cant be since it doenst display some covers witch it catches from amazon with no problem
[07:05] <beta> i think it looks in your folders
[07:05] <madmax1234> im trying to remote desktop on my computer at my moms house
[07:06] <firecrotch> beta: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/What_is_Amarok%3F
[07:06] <dx11101> i have a x2 3800+ but i have never used it in a 64 bit environent
[07:06] <madmax1234> her ip is dynamic
[07:06] <beta> yup, i should go to the amrok people with that
[07:06] <beta> just thought someone knew it anyways
[07:06] <Skuller> dx11101: to have a full 64 bit environment what all do you need to have that is 64 bit?
[07:06] <mrp193> so apparently i downloaded the wrong version of ubuntu
[07:06] <firecrotch> beta: That page says that it uses Amazon
[07:07] <mrp193> ?
[07:07] <madmax1234> so i need something that will either send a connect request to me or its like pcanywhere
[07:07] <dx11101> you need to install the 64 bit binaries
[07:07] <mrp193> how?
[07:07] <intelikey> yep that's what amarok is    "* Super eye-candy interface"
[07:07] <Skuller> dx11101: i meant in terms of hardware
[07:07] <dx11101> usually you download either the 64 bit or 32 bit version
[07:07] <mrp193> i did 64 i think
[07:07] <beta> firecatch: well cant be....why does it give you the option of getting covers from amazon...if the feault setting was to get it from there
[07:07] <dx11101> when you talk in terms of a 64 bit operating system the processor is what matters
[07:07] <beta> also no covers for people not on the net....and all the traffic for people with modems...nope i dont think
[07:08] <dx11101> you will gain nothing going from 32 bit to 64 unless you have a high traffic server or you are number cruching really really big numbers
[07:08] <dx11101> infact some things run slower
[07:08] <Skuller> dx11101: so it is not mandatory to run a 64 bit os to run a 64 bit processor?...if so do you have any advantages of the 64 bit proc running on a 32 bit os?
[07:09] <dx11101> most 64 bit processors emulate 32 bit
[07:09] <dx11101> i think theres a couple server procs out there that are 64 bit only
[07:09] <Skuller> ohh
[07:10] <Skuller> k thanx fer da info
[07:10] <dx11101> all the 64 bit does is make it so you can store larger numbers in the registers
[07:10] <intelikey> i really think it would do the hardware makes a world of good if no one would buy a 64bit box...     i know no one will agree    that doesn't change my openion.
[07:11] <dx11101> huh?
[07:11] <dx11101> 64 bit?
[07:12] <dx11101> then its necessary to have 32 bit to render the latest monsters in videogames 64 bit will finally get adopted in the mainstream market
[07:12] <dx11101> i mean 64 bit
[07:13] <dx11101> whatever
[07:24] <hackdaddy> has anyone been able to build Perl's OpenGL module on Kubuntu 6.10 ?
[07:25] <intelikey> i wonder why svgatextmode can't do 80x25     says sync out of range...   does 100 * 37 plenty good though...
[07:27] <mervteck> Can anyone tell me how to extract a tgz file with root privelages
[07:30] <mervteck> anyone?
[07:30] <firecrotch> mervteck: sudo tar -xzf filename
[07:30] <mervteck> ty fire
[07:31] <mervteck> hey fire do you run cedega ever?
[07:31] <firecrotch> mervteck: Nope, never
[07:31] <mervteck> how would i unpack the tgz file with root to my "/" directory
[07:32] <hackdaddy> has anyone been able to build Perl's OpenGL module on Kubuntu 6.10 ?
[07:32] <firecrotch> mervteck: you would just stick it on the end of the command I gave you - sudo tar -xzf filename /
[07:32] <mervteck> o ok
[07:34] <mervteck> whats a good file manager i can get that does root privilages?
[07:34] <Jucato> Alt+F2, kdesu konqueror
[07:36] <Elive_user92> aa
[07:36] <Elive_user92> anybody ??
[07:37] <Elive_user92> anybody have used the BRASERO cd burner ? can i trust my cd to this app ??
[07:40] <epimeth> ~locale
[07:40] <epimeth> !locale
[07:40] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:41] <laptop> how can i add a keyboard that is french;;;  and   how can i add an lcd monitor to my laptop
[07:42] <laptop>  dual monitor
[07:42] <premier_> does linux (/kde) have any good flash card programs?
[07:42] <laptop> ??
[07:42] <premier_> Preferably one that is scim compatable (I need it for japanes)
[07:43] <premier_> like a vocabulary trainer
[07:43] <corigo> How to add fonts to the system?
[07:44] <crackhead_25> how come i can't skip ahead playback of a .rm in kaffeine or any other media player on kubuntu?
[07:45] <crackhead_25> it plays all right. i installed the restricted format codecs. it just won't skip ahead..
[07:45] <wolferines> anyone good with Nvidia cards (dual) and xorg.conf?
[07:49] <firecrotch> it seems that ubuntu-restricted-formats broke Kaffeine
[07:51] <hackdaddy> how do i look at what's on my usb drive from the terminal?
[07:51] <wolferines> its in media
[07:52] <wolferines> unless its not mounted yet
[07:52] <firecrotch> hackdaddy: just cd to wherever you mounted it and ls
[07:52] <hackdaddy> i never learned how to mount, well, you know i know how to do it that way but not the linux way
[07:54] <firecrotch> hackdaddy: does it mount when you plug it in?
[07:54] <hackdaddy> i didn't have the thumb plugged in when i started the vmware
[07:54] <hackdaddy> no
[07:55] <firecrotch> hackdaddy: mount /dev/device mountpoint
[07:55] <SilentDis> hackdaddy: if you want to mount something for all users, the basic format is:  sudo mount /dev/something /path/to/mountpoint -t <type> -o user.  Lotsa more options depending on what craziness you wanna do :)
[07:56] <firecrotch> hackdaddy: you can find out the device location by running dmesg
[07:56] <hackdaddy> cool, thanks, you very helpful guys!
[07:57] <SilentDis> hackdaddy: we try, when not involved in obscure quasi-offtopic conversations in other channels lol
[07:58] <hackdaddy> hey, i'm the methadone addict of obscure quasi-offtopic conversations :-)
[08:00] <szakals> witam
[08:00] <hackdaddy> i typed "dschmeg" and it started deleting a bunch of stuff.  is that bad?
[08:01] <szakals> jest ktos moze z polski
[08:02] <SilentDis> !po | szakals
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <SilentDis> !polish | szakals
[08:02] <ubotu> szakals: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:02] <szakals> dzieki
[08:06] <corigo> How to add fonts to the system?
[08:06] <SilentDis> !fonts | corigo
[08:06] <ubotu> corigo: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:11] <hackdaddy> what's better DirectX or OpenGL?
[08:13] <SilentDis> hackdaddy: opengl is available under linux.... directx is basically windows-only.  neither is 'better' than the other really... just takes something like cedega to run dx-only games under windows
[08:13] <SilentDis> hackdaddy: er, under linux
[08:14] <hackdaddy> thanks, silentdis
[08:14] <SilentDis> hackdaddy: nt :)
[08:16] <hackdaddy> have you guys tried plasma pong?  www.plasmapong.com
[08:17] <hackdaddy> it's OpenGL on windows and has fluid dynamics, etc
[08:17] <wolferines> anyone good with xorg.conf ? (Nvidia)
[08:18] <SilentDis> wolferines: what problems are you having?
[08:18] <wolferines> many
[08:18] <wolferines> setting up twinview especially
[08:18] <SilentDis> wolferines: I haven't messed with that yet personally... lets see what ubotu has...
[08:18] <SilentDis> !twinview | wolferines
[08:18] <ubotu> wolferines: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:18] <tempsanity> anybody knows how do i turn off all bitchx colors?
[08:19] <mervteck> can anyone tell me why cedega says i failed on the sound test for OSS and ALSA
[08:19] <wolferines> SilentDis: im looking for more of a hands on assistance, thanks though
[08:19] <SilentDis> mervteck: does sound work normally on your machine?  what distro version?
[08:24] <hackdaddy> what's better nedit or Kate?
[08:24] <hackdaddy> what's better nedit or Kate or scite?
[08:25] <stdin> depends what you like best
[08:25] <mervteck> Edgy and No ive never been able to get my sound to work even after 6 reinstalls, but every other time it passed the sound test
[08:25] <SilentDis> hackdaddy: different tools for different tasks, for different prefrences for different people.  I like kate, it does what I need it to. :)
[08:27] <hackdaddy> i just tried kate for the first time and i really like her
[08:27] <firecrotch> I use it for PHP, and I really like it's syntax highlighting
[08:28] <hackdaddy> yeah, the syntax highlighting is sweet
[08:29] <mervteck> can anyone help me get my sound to work ? =\
[08:29] <firecrotch> Plus I can easily switch between files that I'm editing, and it's integrated with KDE's FTP support, so I can save directly to my server
[08:30] <hackdaddy> is there any way i can have a system hot-key to like launch open a new terminal?
[08:30] <hackdaddy> firecrotch, i'll have to try that -- sounds very useful
[08:31] <stdin> hackdaddy: System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Command Shortcuts
[08:31] <hackdaddy> the Kate icon is fairly Freudian...
[08:32] <hackdaddy> that's a really big pencil writing in a little tiny notebook, but it feels so good
[08:33] <hackdaddy> thanks, stdin
[08:33] <mervteck> can anyone help meh? =(
[08:33] <firecrotch> hackdaddy: You have to have a pretty sick mind to notice that
[08:33] <SilentDis> mervteck: what kind of sound card do you have?  does linux even see it?  use this command to check:  lspci
[08:33] <hackdaddy> firecrotch, thanks :-)
[08:33] <firecrotch> I noticed it :)
[08:33] <SilentDis> mervteck: if you want, you can !pastebin the output, and I'll sift through it for ya :)
[08:34] <wolferines> anyone good with xorg.conf ? (Nvidia)
[08:35] <xushi> anyone here in europe ? did you change the daylight savings time yet or not ?
[08:35] <tempsanity> do you guys know a beryl/compiz repo for ubuntu feisty?
[08:35] <mervteck> !pastebin
[08:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:35] <tempsanity> should i use the edgy one?
[08:35] <tempsanity> and which one would you recommend
[08:35] <SilentDis> tempsanity: not sure if they've got it setup for feisty yet, other than svn repos :P
[08:36] <mervteck> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11154/ ^^ there ya go
[08:36] <SilentDis> tempsanity: i'd say give it about 2 weeks after feisty launches, and they'll have repos setup.
[08:36] <stdin> tempsanity: there is a feisty repo
[08:36] <stdin> tempsanity: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main
[08:36] <firecrotch> tempsanity: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main
[08:37] <tempsanity> thanks for the answers!
[08:37] <fignew> mervteck: what do you mean by pass the sound test? did you hear sound?
[08:37] <fignew> stdin: wins!
[08:37] <SilentDis> fignew: he's trying to get cedega working. :)
[08:37] <fignew> OY! missed that
[08:37] <stdin> firecrotch: you noticed that beryl-manager and emerald-themes are in feisty/universe now?
[08:38] <SilentDis> mervteck: looks like you have 2 sound devices... are you using the built-in one, or the SB Live! card?
[08:38] <fignew> try running artsdsp cedega
[08:38] <fignew> ^^^mervteck
[08:38] <firecrotch> stdin: Nope, didn't notice that
[08:38] <mervteck> SB Live! is the one i wanna use, because its my 5.1 card
[08:38] <mervteck> well fig i dont have sound EVER even without cedega
[08:39] <fignew> so no programs have sound?
[08:39] <mervteck> ive tested sound running speakers on every port
[08:39] <mervteck> i get nothing
[08:39] <mervteck> right
[08:39] <fignew> but the soundtest worked?
[08:39] <stdin> firecrotch: looks like beryl (core) may, one day, make it in the repos
[08:39] <SilentDis> mervteck: the speakers are plugged into the SB card, right?  (always good to clear the easy stuff first) :)
[08:40] <mervteck> yesh =D
[08:40] <firecrotch> stdin: Well, as long as it's not installed by default, I'm happy
[08:40] <SilentDis> mervteck: and, are you using a digital plug in, or the analog plugs, on the SB Live! card?
[08:40] <stdin> firecrotch: no, at least not in feisty
[08:40] <fignew> mervteck: can you disable the old card in the BIOS? (sorry SilentDis :))
[08:41] <SilentDis> fignew: eh, it's no biggy having 'em both on.  sure sucks a resource and IRQ spot... but...
[08:41] <firecrotch> stdin: It still needs a LOT of work before I would even consider it ready to be a default
[08:41] <stdin> firecrotch: true, but we gotta compeat with vista now
[08:41] <Iwonder|NotHere> can you cat <somefile> >> /dev/dsp?
[08:41] <Iwonder> be prepared to hit ctrl+c
[08:42] <fignew> mervteck: cat /dev/random /dev/dsp
[08:42] <SilentDis> roflmao
[08:42] <SilentDis> that's mean
[08:42] <fignew> mean?
[08:42] <fignew> not at all
[08:42] <fignew> do it... it's just static
[08:42] <Iwonder> its a legit test
[08:43] <mervteck> fig do i put that in Konsole
[08:43] <Iwonder> if it doesn't error,try amix
[08:43] <SilentDis> yes true, but if he had speaker volume all the way up trying to fix it... lol
[08:43] <fignew> mervteck: yes
[08:43] <mervteck> and im using the metal plug guy..
[08:43] <mervteck> fig
[08:43] <SilentDis> mervteck: I have an SB Live! card myself.  what color is the ring you plug you stuck your speakers into?
[08:43] <firecrotch> stdin: yeah, unfortunately
[08:43] <fignew> whoops mervteck
[08:43] <mervteck> theres alot of jibberish bullschvit comming up
[08:43] <fignew> mervteck: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[08:44] <mervteck> green ring
[08:44] <CarinArr> hey.. My kubuntu/windows dual boot has worked fine for a week or so (since complete reinstall of system), this morning when i try to start it it gives me a grub error 16
[08:44] <fignew> I for got the >
[08:44] <fignew> forgot*
[08:44] <SilentDis> mervteck:  you're using...  analog.
[08:44] <fignew> > sends it to the soundcard
[08:44] <mervteck> thats what i though =P
[08:44] <SilentDis> mervteck: KMenu > System Settings
[08:44] <mervteck> cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[08:44] <mervteck> oops
[08:44] <mervteck> 1 sec
[08:44] <CarinArr> would this be due to a hardware problem? The machine is brand new and I only got it a week ago
[08:44] <mervteck> mervteck@BlackMagik:~$ cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[08:44] <mervteck> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[08:45] <mervteck> silent im in system settings
[08:45] <SilentDis> mervteck: Sound System > Hardware.
[08:45] <fignew> mervteck: killall artsd
[08:45] <fignew> then try again
[08:45] <mervteck> k silent im with you
[08:45] <mervteck> 1 sec fig
[08:45] <fignew> SilentDis: actually, catting random is sorta quiet
[08:46] <SilentDis> mervteck: should have a choice of audio devices at "Select the audio device".  pick the SB Live Card
[08:46] <firecrotch> CarinArr: A problem with the filesystem on one of your partitions, probably
[08:46] <SilentDis> fignew: really?  *runs off to test that herself*
[08:46] <mervteck> nope i jsut get OSS ALSA and all those, not the SB Live card
[08:46] <firecrotch> CarinArr:  You'll need to run fsck on all of them and hope that that fixes it
[08:47] <CarinArr> firecrotch: how do i do that?
[08:47] <SilentDis> mervteck:  aargh, i can't remember where the setting is in kubuntu... room, where do you go to pick a soundcard?  last I had to worry about this, it was on a machine with gnome. :P
[08:48] <Iwonder> does grub-install need to be run if a kernel is updated via adept-manager?
[08:49] <Iwonder> k-menu,setting,sounds& multimedia?
[08:49] <firecrotch> CarinArr:  You'll need to boot into single user mode, and then run fsck
[08:49] <CarinArr> do i need my cd for that given grub doesn't get far enough for me to boot into single user mode?
[08:51] <firecrotch> CarinArr:  I think the LiveCD has an option for a repair mode that will let you fix stuff like this, yeah
[08:52] <SilentDis> mervteck: i hate to do this, but I'm gonna refer you to the howto on sound setup.  I simply can't remember where the setting is in kubuntu :(
[08:52] <SilentDis> !sound | mervteck
[08:52] <ubotu> mervteck: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:53] <fignew> mervteck: did you ever try killall artsd
[08:53] <mervteck> =\ done it and didnt work >.<
[08:53] <fignew> then doing the cat /dev/random thing?
[08:53] <mervteck> no ill do it now whats the exact command
[08:53] <fignew> killall artsdsp; cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[08:53] <fignew> whoops
[08:53] <fignew> killall artsd; cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[08:53] <SilentDis> i do realize I have a question though... what package do i need to grab to enable mp3 support for burning audio cds in k3b?
[08:54] <Jucato> !info libk3b2-mp3 | SilentDis
[08:54] <ubotu> silentdis: libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB
[08:54] <SilentDis> Jucato: thanks :)
[08:54] <Jucato> :)
[08:55] <mervteck> k i tried your commands and no good
[08:55] <fignew> is there an error?
[08:55] <fignew> or just no sound?
[08:56] <mervteck> mervteck@BlackMagik:~$ cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[08:56] <mervteck> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[08:56] <mervteck> mervteck@BlackMagik:~$
[08:57] <fignew> do killall artsd first
[08:57] <mervteck> i did i jsut didnt coppy that first
[08:57] <crackhead_25> what's the best macromedia dreamweaver replacement available on kubuntu??
[08:58] <SilentDis> i'm far too tired to be of much help to anyone tonight I think.  g'night all :)
[08:58] <mervteck> mervteck@BlackMagik:~$ killall artsd
[08:58] <mervteck> mervteck@BlackMagik:~$ cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[08:58] <mervteck> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[08:58] <mervteck> mervteck@BlackMagik:~$
[08:59] <crackhead_25> also, why might i not be able to load cups in 127.0.0.1:631? it just times out always.. ???
[08:59] <fignew> mervteck: did you add the user mervteck after you installed? or during the install?
[08:59] <mervteck> durring
[09:01] <mervteck> couldent i do an override device location and set to my SB LIVE card?
[09:01] <kraut> moin
[09:02] <hackdaddy> what's the best slideshow app in Kubuntu?
[09:02] <fignew> have you disabled it in the bios?
[09:02] <mervteck> disabled what?
[09:02] <fignew> the built in sound card
[09:03] <mervteck> no i dunno how lols
[09:03] <fignew> you know about the bios?
[09:03] <mervteck> yesh
[09:03] <fignew> It should be in there... maybe under intergrated peripherials
[09:04] <fignew> 'cuz the sound blaster live is a card alot of people have
[09:04] <fignew> so it should work fine...
[09:04] <mervteck> so kill onboard audio in bios
[09:05] <hackdaddy> what's the best slideshow app in Kubuntu?
[09:06] <fignew> mervteck: yes
[09:06] <mervteck> kk ill be back in a few
[09:06] <fignew> if that option exists
[09:06] <fignew> hackdaddy: kpdf is pretty good
[09:07] <fignew> you have to print out what you want as PDF... then use kpdf to display it :)
[09:10] <hackdaddy> thanks, fignew
[09:10] <fignew> :)
[09:11] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to setup a new printer when cups won't work? ??
[09:11] <fignew> crackhead_25: have you tried the KDE printer tool?
[09:11] <mervteck> and im back!
[09:12] <fignew> mervteck: you find it?
[09:12] <crackhead_25> fignew: i've tried kcontrol and the system settings, printers
[09:12] <crackhead_25> nothing has been working!
[09:12] <fignew> crackhead_25: in konsole do: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[09:12] <mervteck> yesh , disabled it and still no sound =\
[09:13] <fignew> mervteck: 2 things we can do
[09:13] <sandro__> hi all .. im running kubuntu 6.1 and i cant seem to find a "midnight commander" mc .. i tried in adept, aptitude and a blind apt-get install mc .. do i need additional repos to find/get mc ?!
[09:13] <crackhead_25> the farthest i've gotten is using kcontrol, peripherals, printers, then switching from cups spooler to lpr spooler, and then trying to do add printer, but then i cant figure out what the uri is for the usb printer. i can find the usb (it's bus 02, dev 04), but i dont know how to tell what the uri is from that..
[09:13] <fignew> test a live CD and see if that works
[09:13] <fignew> but first
[09:13] <crackhead_25> fignew: it restarted ok. now what
[09:14] <fignew> mervteck: run kmix
[09:14] <fignew> and fiddle with the stuff under switches
[09:14] <crackhead_25> now i go to system settings, printers, and i try to open it, and it says "already running in configuration module" or something?
[09:15] <crackhead_25> do i have to kill some signals?
[09:15] <mervteck> k
[09:15] <fignew> crackhead_25: when you add printers under the KDE print program, USB printers should show up automatically as addable (sp?)
[09:15] <mervteck> yeah still getting no sound =(
[09:16] <mervteck> is there any drivers i can download to see if that helps
[09:16] <fignew> mervteck: what options are under switches?
[09:16] <fignew> mervteck: what type of printer?
[09:16] <fignew> no, all drivers built in
[09:16] <mervteck> oh wate
[09:16] <mervteck> 1 sec
[09:16] <davido> does juk in feisty work for anyone?
[09:16] <fignew> !mc | sandro
[09:16] <ubotu> sandro: mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[09:16] <crackhead_25> fignew: none show up under the usb ports in the printer setup panel.. though under lsusb, it shows up..
[09:16] <crackhead_25> typical hp 3500
[09:16] <fignew> mc should be right there
[09:17] <davido> it (juk) doesn't play songs for me while amarok etc works
[09:17] <fignew> does: /var/log/cups/error_log say anything?
[09:17] <mervteck> yeah im not getting anything =\
[09:17] <fignew> :(
[09:17] <fignew> mervteck: I'd ask in #alsa :)
[09:18] <davido> btw, in general I think feisty is currently already more stable then dapper was on release
[09:18] <fignew> they're the pros!
[09:18] <crackhead_25> how do i see if it says anything? what command do i do?
[09:18] <fignew> davido: tell that to the unbootable kernel (-11) I had a day or to ago...
[09:18] <fignew> crackhead_25: cat
[09:18] <davido> fignew: mm ok, in my perception at least :)
[09:19] <fignew> eek! spelling: two :P
[09:19] <fignew> too late for typing :/
[09:19] <crackhead_25> fignew: yeah, there's a lot of error there.. the same error repeated.. ill paste in pastebin..
[09:19] <davido> but got anyone juk working in feisty?
[09:19] <fignew> davido: never used it :(
[09:20] <crackhead_25> fignew: http://pastebin.ca/403263
[09:20] <mervteck> no one in the channel is wakin the hell up =\
[09:20] <fignew> mervteck: you gotta give them time
[09:20] <davido> ok, I prefer it over amarok, because I don't have to use the mouse in juk
[09:20] <SolidSource> !mp4 > solidsource
[09:21] <crackhead_25> fignew: what do you think
[09:21] <fignew> crackhead_25: 1 sec
[09:22] <fignew> it says that multiple times?
[09:22] <crackhead_25> check the pastebin
[09:22] <davido> ok, I'll try juk in a couple of days again, thankyou, bye
[09:22] <yopy77> y
[09:22] <fignew> crackhead_25: does it just say that once?
[09:23] <crackhead_25> multiple times
[09:23] <crackhead_25> http://pastebin.ca/403263
[09:23] <fignew> so twice?
[09:23] <crackhead_25> no, it's got a lot of 'em.. more than i copied..
[09:23] <fignew> ok
[09:23] <crackhead_25> 50 maybe
[09:24] <crackhead_25> all saying the same, as was copied
[09:24] <crackhead_25> the first line just repeats fifty times. then it says creating directory or whatever.
[09:24] <crackhead_25> that creating dir line is repeated only twice.
[09:24] <fignew> what does "ls /var/run/cups" say?
[09:25] <crackhead_25> certs cupsd.pid cups.sock
[09:25] <CarinArr> right.. i booted using the cd and could run fsck on the linux drive, however i can't run fsck on the ntfs drive (says fsck.ntfs isn't there or something)
[09:26] <CarinArr> i fixed grub enough to get rid of the error 16
[09:26] <CarinArr> and back to my old menu
[09:26] <CarinArr> but now it just hangs as soon as i select anything from that menu (apart from the memory test)
[09:27] <mcrandello> Hi, is there any way to get the shutdown or reboot options back in the logout meu after updating to feisty?
[09:27] <fignew> CarinArr: you shouldn't need to mess with NTFS to fix GRUB (unless you're trying to boot into an NTFS drive)
[09:27] <fignew> crackhead_25: 1 sec
[09:27] <crackhead_25> fignew: thanks man
[09:28] <fignew> what does sudo ls /etc
[09:28] <fignew> whoops
[09:28] <fignew> what does "sudo ls /etc/cups/ssl" say?
[09:29] <crackhead_25> server.crt server.key
[09:29] <sandro__> fignew: thank you .. but i still cant find mc :(/ maybe i must add some repositories ?
[09:30] <fignew> how about grep "DefaultAuthType" /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[09:30] <crackhead_25> DefaultAuthType Basic
[09:31] <fignew> !easysource | sandro__
[09:31] <ubotu> sandro__: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:31] <CarinArr> fignew: no i know. but i got an error 16 at the grub menu and its description talks about messed up file structures, so someone told me to run fsck on my drives
[09:31] <fignew> use that
[09:31] <sandro__> fignew: thanks again!
[09:31] <CarinArr> really don't know what's broken but something is definitely off
[09:31] <fignew> CarinArr: that's fine, run it on all your linux drives ;)
[09:31] <CarinArr> i did
[09:32] <CarinArr> and there wasn't any problems
[09:32] <fignew> ok
[09:32] <fignew> so its working?
[09:32] <CarinArr> no;)
[09:32] <CarinArr> fsck was fine
[09:32] <CarinArr> and the error 16 is gone
[09:33] <CarinArr> but when i boot i get my grub menu, but no matter whether i choose either linux kernel there or the windows install, it just hangs
[09:33] <fignew> argh crackhead_25 I'm looking into what the problem could be
[09:33] <crackhead_25> fignew: thx man i really appreciate it
[09:33] <CarinArr> just really pissing me off, i've only had the damn machine for just over a week
[09:33] <CarinArr> was just about getting it set up properly so i could start doing some actual work
[09:34] <fignew> CarinArr: boot into a livecd
[09:35] <CarinArr> okay
[09:35] <CarinArr> (already there)
[09:35] <fignew> and run grub-install
[09:35] <fignew> but
[09:35] <fignew> read up on that
[09:36] <fignew> CarinArr: you can also ask in #grub ... they're the pros ;)
[09:36] <crackhead_25> fignew: what are you thinking
[09:37] <mervteck> hey Fig
[09:37] <mervteck> Skype works and will run on any audio devices i have hooked up, but noting else will... so somthing up lol
[09:37] <tempsanity> can i somehow make a window 'glued' to my kde desktop? like a terminal that cannot be minimized but its always below other windwos
[09:37] <tempsanity> ?
[09:38] <fignew> crackhead_25: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/2077 seems to be similar
[09:38] <fignew> tempsanity: right click on the icon in the top left
[09:39] <fignew> CarinArr: basically, your grub is hosed and needs to be reinstalled
[09:39] <tempsanity> fignew i know that but i dont know the specific settings for that
[09:39] <fignew> ohhh, tempsanity you want it to be part of the desktop?
[09:39] <fignew> never done that, though i suspect you'll find something like that in superkaramba
[09:40] <crackhead_25> fignew: that person was able to isntall his/her printer. i haven't even been able to get mine "installed". it's recognized with lsusb, but i can't get through the printer setup wizards in the system settings, printers.. and in kcontrol, i dont know how to find out waht the uri of the printer is (do you know how to find out the uri of a usb device??)
[09:40] <tempsanity> i just want it to stay under all windows and not be minimized
[09:40] <mervteck> k this is weird... sound works on both my headset and soundcard in skype but nothing else
[09:41] <fignew> crackhead_25: is this a pretty fresh install... have you installed samba?... have you done anything weird with cups?
[09:41] <fignew> tempsanity: what do you mean not minimized?
[09:41] <fignew> mervteck: what other programs are you testing it in?
[09:43] <ffffu> hi i'm installing gtk-gnutella 0.96.3 where i read the README it says
[09:43] <fignew> crackhead_25: I'm at a loss
[09:43] <ffffu> Run from the top of the source tree:
[09:43] <ffffu>   $ fakeroot debian/rules binary
[09:43] <ffffu> and it will build the .deb package for you in the parent directory.
[09:43] <ffffu> what does it mean?
[09:43] <fignew> ffffu: just do apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[09:44] <ffffu> it says i'm using the ancient version
[09:44] <fignew> that's saying how you MAKE a .deb file
[09:44] <ffffu> i couldn't get it running
[09:44] <fignew> gnutella itself is ancient
[09:44] <ffffu> the apt-get installed 0.96.1
[09:44] <fignew> current is?
[09:44] <ffffu> this i downloaded is 0.96.3
[09:44] <fignew> doesn't sound like too big of a difference
[09:44] <ffffu> what's the command to create the deb file?
[09:45] <fignew> ffffu: apt-get install checkinstall; ./configure; checkinstall
[09:45] <crackhead_25> it's pretty fresh. it was working last week. i installed a first printer, an hp officejet k60. then this week, i took that out, it wasn't my printer, and i put in my actual printer, an hp 3500. now i was trying to install it so that i coudl use it. i can't get through the setup screens. from that time to now, i have installed other stuff, but no samba.
[09:45] <fignew> checkinstall will make the .deb file
[09:45] <fignew> but that
[09:45] <fignew> isn't really necessary
[09:45] <fignew> just do ./configure; make; sudo make install
[09:46] <fignew> crackhead_25: so you could print stuff earlier?
[09:46] <crackhead_25> fignew: wha tdo you think? what kubuntu are you running? should i update to feisty, and see if that fixes it, or is taht too drastic and probably to cause more problems?
[09:46] <fignew> crackhead_25: I'm running feisty
[09:46] <crackhead_25> yeah, i could print on the hp k60 last week. i have'n ttried printin in the last ew days. i took the k60 out a few days ago. hadn't a printer in until today.
[09:46] <CarinArr> should i be able to run fsck on for example /dev/sda as well as /dev/sda1, 2, 3 etc
[09:47] <fignew> if you do upgrade make sure you back up
[09:47] <fignew> CarinArr: I don't believe so
[09:47] <ffffu> i ran the checkinstall .. where's the deb file now?
[09:47] <fignew> ffffu: did it finish without errors?
[09:47] <CarinArr> okay, good;)
[09:48] <fignew> crackhead_25: they were doing some cups fixes in feisty earlier this week
[09:48] <fignew> it was broken at one point
[09:48] <mervteck> HOT DAMN FIG I GOT MY SOUND BACK!
[09:48] <fignew> lol
[09:48] <fignew> what the heck was the problem?
[09:48] <ffffu> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[09:48] <ffffu> ****  Installation failed. Aborting package creation.
[09:49] <fignew> ffffu: just do the ./configure; make;make install
[09:49] <fignew> actually
[09:49] <hi_im_new> Hi all.... At this moment, I have a working kubuntu (which ive used every day for months, and NEVER used windows) and an expired copy of WINDOWS VISTA on another partition.  I finally need to reinstall a copy of XP over that useless VISTA partition, but at the end of it, it will no longer go to GRUB manager and boot directly into XP.  How am I supposed to fix this?
[09:49] <fignew> ffffu: did you run configure first?
[09:49] <ffffu> i ran ./Configure -d
[09:49] <ffffu> there's a part it ask my compiler (yacc) and i have to key in yacc
[09:50] <ffffu> Which compiler compiler (yacc) shall I use?   yacc
[09:50] <ffffu> ERROR: Cannot compile against GLib.
[09:50] <ffffu> ERROR: Cannot compile against Gtk+.
[09:50] <crackhead_25> fignew: should i totally upgrade to feisty? is that going to ruin all of my current program isntalls and settings and everything??
[09:50] <fignew> ok ffffu; just do the make make install :/
[09:50] <fignew> wait
[09:50] <ffffu> when i make
[09:50] <mervteck> hey Fig ya know what happened with my sound
[09:50] <ffffu> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[09:50] <fignew> crackhead_25: I'd wait
[09:50] <fignew> ffffu: 1 sec
[09:50] <crackhead_25> ha k
[09:51] <crackhead_25> so what do you think about the printing?? am i just screwed??
[09:51] <ffffu> !yacc
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yacc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <fignew> crackhead_25: you could ask in #cups
[09:51] <fignew> not sure how helpful they'd be though
[09:51] <mervteck> my cat being the fatass he is ripped the connection in the back of my sub so no sound would come through
[09:51] <fignew> ##cups actually
[09:51] <fignew> mervteck: lol :P
[09:52] <mervteck> i found a fatty clump of cathair where the plug should be lmao
[09:52] <fignew> bad kitty!
[09:52] <mervteck> now i gotta figure out what that moldy taco smell is...
[09:53] <crackhead_25> crazy problem.. i had a hpk60 installed last week, it worked fine. then i had no printer the last five days. now i plugge din a new printer, hp3500, and i was trying to install it. i can't get through the setup programs, though. system settings, printers, admin mode, and it hangs. kcontrol, periph, printers, admin mode, add printer, and if spooler is cups, it hangs.. (it goes through to the next step with lpr as spooler, but i dont
[09:53] <crackhead_25> know how to find out what the printer's uri is.. i can see it in lsusb (bus 02, dev 04), but that's about all i know..) ) can anyone help?? no one in kubuntu channel could figure it out..
[09:53] <ffffu> fignew: i think i got it.. i need to install libglib1.2-dev and libgtk1.2-dev
[09:53] <crackhead_25> oops, sorry.. that was supposed to go the cups channel
[09:53] <ffffu> now the configure make make install worked
[09:53] <ffffu> !fakeroot
[09:53] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 376 kB
[09:54] <fignew> ffffu: installing auto-apt
[09:54] <fignew> and running sudo auto-apt run ./configure
[09:54] <fignew> will automatically download the required packages :)
[09:54] <ffffu> what do use to download mp3s? gnutella right?
[09:54] <ffffu> !gnutella
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <mervteck> hey fig wanna see if we can get my cadega working? =)
[09:55] <ffffu> ohhh auto-apt.. ok
[09:55] <crackhead_25> fignew: how do i find out what the uri of a device is??
[09:55] <ffffu> !limewire
[09:55] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:55] <ffffu> !mp3
[09:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:55] <ffffu> do u use gtk-gnutella or limewire to d/l mp3?
[09:55] <fignew> crackhead_25: not sure, you usu. don't need to
[09:56] <fignew> gtk-gnutella over the adware called limewire
[09:56] <fignew> mervteck: no thanks ;)
[09:56] <fignew> I'm gonna leave now :(
[09:56] <ffffu> so what i'm compiliing now is limewire?
[09:56] <mervteck> lmao xD well thanks for helpin meh!
[09:57] <fignew> ffffu: no, you're compiling gtk-gnutella
[09:57] <fignew> both use the same network (gnutella)
[09:57] <fignew> mervteck: it should be pretty straight foward (you are using the .deb right?
[09:57] <ffffu> ic..i used gtk-gnutella before..not limewire
[09:57] <ffffu> is it of a better interface?
[09:57] <fignew> better software
[09:58] <mervteck> well... kinda? lol
[09:58] <fignew> g2g
[09:58] <mervteck> i unpacked the tgz
[09:58] <ffffu> thanks
[09:58] <mervteck> have a good nite fig
[09:58] <ffffu> !FrostWire
[09:58] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:58] <rtsg> hii
[09:58] <rtsg> Setting up kubuntu-artwork-usplash (7.04-34ubuntu1) ...
[09:58] <rtsg> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-11-386
[09:58] <rtsg> W: udev hook script requires at least kernel version 2.6.19
[09:58] <rtsg> W: not generating requested initramfs for kernel 2.6.17-11-386
[09:58] <rtsg> what should i do
[09:58] <rtsg> i'm sure if i'm reboot my pc
[09:59] <rtsg> it will failed
[09:59] <ffffu> Frostwire or limewire better?
[09:59] <crackhead_25>  anyone know how to find the uri of a device??
[10:00] <mervteck> why dont you just torrent   ffffu
[10:00] <ffffu> mervteck: for some small mp3s i would search in gnutella..
[10:00] <ffffu> for videos..bittorrent
[10:01] <mervteck> =P
[10:02] <mervteck> i just torrent the full cd then delete what i dont what
[10:02] <ffffu> how do u search for the cd?
[10:02] <ffffu> what u use for bittorrent?
[10:02] <mervteck> Ktorrent came with my os, otherwise i do Asurus
[10:02] <mervteck> then i jsut search the name of the band or whatever
[10:03] <ffffu> u can search in Ktorrent?
[10:04] <mervteck> jsut go to sites like www.torrentspy.com www.thepiratebay.org www.btjunkie.com
[10:05] <CarinArr> odd
[10:05] <CarinArr> second time i rewrote grub it seems to have worked
[10:05] <mhk> How do i install OOO2.1 on Edgy?
[10:05] <mhk> (of course manually)
[10:05] <CarinArr> slightly troubles me that this would happen after less than two weeks of using the machine tho
[10:09] <bentob0x> how do to a "Xfree86 -probeonly" on kubuntu?
[10:09] <bentob0x> it's not Xfree86 I think
[10:11] <cpk1> somehow I made my kdocker go bye bye how do you restart/start it?
[10:13] <cpk1> no really guys, I miss it
[10:13] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone got any ideas why my usb suddenly stopped working on linux and lsusb just freezes?
[10:14] <utnubuk> with 3 questions up i'm reluctant to post my own :P
[10:15] <xardias> hi
[10:15] <sandro__> some howto (in kde my sound is good, in quake3 (the only game i play) there is no sound) tells me to " In KDE you can open KDE Control Center -> Sound -> Sound Server -> uncheck "Start aRts soundserver at KDE startup", and restart" .. actually i cant even find my control center .. all i find is "System Settings / Sound System" but there is no way to change what todo tells .. any ideas for me ?!
[10:16] <xardias> sandro__: check the "start" menu.. there is a System Settings Program where you can config the Sound Server
[10:16] <xardias> (sorry, its called Sound System in there)
[10:17] <xardias> i would unchec the "enable sound system" button
[10:17] <sandro__> xardias:  yes i found that .. but i cant seem to find "start soundserver at kde startup" checkbox .. i could enter a "idle time" when kde releases exclusive sound "lock" .. but if i change time there i fall into endless dialog "restarting sound system"
[10:18] <xardias> hm.. have you tried to simply disable the sound system while playing quake?
[10:18] <sandro__> no
[10:18] <sandro__> how would i do that ? :)
[10:19] <xardias> sandro__: its the first checkbox in the config menu
[10:19] <sandro__> ok will try right away thanks!
[10:20] <xardias> can someone tell me how where i can define globally available variables? i want to export JAVA_HOME to get eclipse running.
[10:20] <xardias> .bashrc does not work for programs beeing invoked by KDE..
[10:26] <sandro__> funny enough i disabled the sound .. my xmms still plays sound quake still silent :)
[10:26] <xardias> sandro__: have you closed xmms while playing quake?
[10:26] <mustasj> I can't find any k3b 1.0 deb files for edgy? anyane?
[10:27] <sandro__> yes
[10:28] <sandro__> you think maybe software blocking ? so maybe "Konversation" blocks for notifys?!
[10:29] <xardias> hm. maye try typing "artsshell suspend" into a console...
[10:29] <VSpike> Is there repository strangeness going on?
[10:29] <xardias> if that does not help try hm. "artsshell terminate"
[10:30] <VSpike> Adept just upgraded digikam and digikam plugins, removed kipi-plugins and kubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <VSpike> Now if I go into aptitude it says digikam is broken, and it wants to downgrade digikam and digikamimageplugins, and install kipi-plugins and kubuntu-desktop
[10:33] <sandro__> ok arts is down .. still no sound .. what i found is artsdsp with option --mmap (maps memory e.g. for quake) i think i should maybe google that direction
[10:33] <cpk1> once i did some stuff with adept and then used aptitude and aptitude went apeshit on me. I just let aptitude do all its crazy ideas anyways and somehow it worked out
[10:38] <psyke83> hi, can someone tell me what package is responsible for generating /etc/hosts? I want to file a bug on launchpad and need to know what package to file against
[10:41] <_BS_> Trying to upgrade 6.06 to 6.1, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades. Died due to conflict between x11-common and xli. imgvtopgm depends upon xli. I'm going in circles here - nothing will move. How do I get rid of imgvtopgm, only, without involving an x11-common upgrade which fails due to the presence of xli. Help please.
[10:43] <mervteck> 6.1 PWNS!
[10:54] <valued_customer> I've got a configuration problem with Kubuntu 6.10 - "Disk & Filesystems" isn't working. Any takers?
[10:55] <valued_customer> Bye, then.
[10:56] <crackhead_25> anyone know a good kubuntu replacement for macromedia dreamweaver ??
[10:57] <crackhead_25> anyone know a good kubuntu replacement for macromedia dreamweaver ??
[10:57] <bentob0x> vim?
[10:57] <bentob0x> ^^
[10:57] <crackhead_25> what's vim?
[10:57] <bentob0x> no try wine
[10:57] <crackhead_25> isn't that a ide for software development?
[10:57] <bentob0x> and then run your dreamweaver
[10:58] <crackhead_25> do i have to isntall dreamweaver on wine?
[10:58] <bentob0x> vim is a text editor but it's not WYSIWYG
[10:58] <bentob0x> yep
[10:58] <apokryphos> !web
[10:58] <crackhead_25> how do i do that? i've never really used wine before
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about web - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <apokryphos> !editor
[10:58] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[10:58] <apokryphos> !html
[10:58] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[10:58] <bentob0x> if you install wine first you can then run your setup via wine "path\to\dreamweaver\install.exe"
[10:59] <crackhead_25> i'll try it..
[10:59] <bentob0x> have a look at winehq.com
[10:59] <bentob0x> or
[10:59] <xtavaresx_> what about an linux equivalent to rapidweaver? anyone?
[10:59] <bentob0x> just download it via your packages manager
[11:00] <mervteck> hey can anyone tell me how to change the resolution of a steam game b4 launching it? it goed blackscreen when i change resolution once in game
[11:00] <xtavaresx_> !steam
[11:00] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[11:00] <_BS_> Trying to upgrade 6.06 to 6.1, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades. Died due to conflict between x11-common and xli. imgvtopgm depends upon xli. I'm going in circles here - nothing will move. How do I get rid of imgvtopgm, only, without involving an x11-common upgrade which fails due to the presence of xli. Help please.
[11:03] <waylandbill> _BS_: you could remove xli and put it back in later.
[11:04] <utnubuk> can somebody tell me about how amarok works with last.fm?
[11:06] <rahab> hi there
[11:06] <_BS_> waylandbill - I'm trying. I'll get rid of both, but it won't let me. It feels like it's trying to do x11-common upgrade 1st. At this point I just want to force the removal of the darn thing, but don't know how. I've tried apt-get -f install, but get:
[11:06] <_BS_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:06] <_BS_> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:06] <_BS_> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[11:06] <_BS_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:06] <_BS_>   libxdmcp6: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is to be installed
[11:06] <_BS_>   xserver-xorg-core: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is to be installed
[11:06] <_BS_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[11:06] <rahab> is anyone familiar with the limitations of filesystmes in common unices ?
[11:07] <apokryphos> rahab: wikipedia is
[11:08] <_BS_> Sorry, that should have been: apt-get remove xli imgvtopgm
[11:08] <rahab> apokryphos: including some real numbers?
[11:08] <waylandbill> _BS_: did you do apt-get -f install?
[11:08] <apokryphos> rahab: yes
[11:09] <rahab> apokryphos: perfect. thanx
[11:10] <_BS_> waylandbill - Yes, no help. apt-get -f install:
[11:10] <_BS_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:11] <_BS_> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:11] <_BS_> Correcting dependencies... Done
[11:11] <_BS_> The following extra packages will be installed:
[11:11] <_BS_>   x11-common
[11:11] <_BS_> The following packages will be upgraded:
[11:11] <waylandbill> !pastebin
[11:11] <_BS_>   x11-common
[11:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:11] <_BS_> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1083 not upgraded.
[11:11] <_BS_> 47 not fully installed or removed.
[11:11] <_BS_> Need to get 0B/291kB of archives.
[11:11] <_BS_> After unpacking, 418kB of additional disk space will be used.
[11:11] <_BS_> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[11:11] <_BS_> Preconfiguring packages ...
[11:11] <_BS_> (Reading database ... 187779 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:11] <_BS_> Preparing to replace x11-common 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (using .../x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb) ...
[11:11] <_BS_> Unpacking replacement x11-common ...
[11:11] <_BS_> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:11] <_BS_>  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package xli
[11:11] <_BS_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:11] <_BS_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb
[11:11] <_BS_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:11] <_BS_> waylandbill - thanks. Define 'large' please?
[11:11] <waylandbill> _BS_: next time use a pastebin, but you need to add --force-overwrite to that command line
[11:12] <waylandbill> _BS_: use judgement. A line or a few is okay. The entire output of an apt-get command is large. :-)
[11:13] <waylandbill> _BS_: apt-get -f install --force-overwrite   should get you moving along
[11:13] <mervteck> let it be known! I CRASHED LINUX! xD
[11:13] <waylandbill> mervteck: oh, you did?
[11:14] <mervteck> aye, with emulated steam =P
[11:15] <|GaiJin|> the memtes86+.bin file located in the /boot dir on my harddrive.. is it a image file??
[11:15] <_BS_> waylandbill: 'apt-get --force-overwrite remove xli imgvtopgm' not understood. Do you mean --force-yes?
[11:17] <waylandbill> _BS_: force yes will do it. I must've been thinking dpkg switch.
[11:17] <waylandbill> _BS_: not to the remove though
[11:17] <eilker> !APF
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <eilker> !apf
[11:18] <_BS_> waylandbill: And it's any wonder _I_ get bewildered by all the package managers, utilities, commands, ...
[11:18] <waylandbill> _BS_: you can't do the remove now, because the package manager is still in the middle of the last thing that failed.
[11:19] <cacg> hi
[11:20] <waylandbill> _BS_: apt-get -f install --force-yes  . don't rely on force yes though as it can be dangerous. We are only do it to get that one package to overwrite which is okay. :-)
[11:20] <_BS_> waylandbill: This is nuts. I can't complete what it's in the middle of because of the dependancy. I can't remove the dependancy because it's in the middle of something else. AND, because it's an upgrade ... I don't dare reboot.
[11:20] <_BS_> waylandbill: Oh yeah, I get that. Think dll hell.
[11:21] <waylandbill> _BS_: you have aptitude installed?
[11:22] <_BS_> waylandbill: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11159/. Don't think so, let me check. Got synaptic, adept, kpackage, apt, ... hold on
[11:23] <_BS_> waylandbill: Yep, it's there. Came along for the ride some time or another.
[11:23] <waylandbill> _BS_: now you see why universe is unsupported.
[11:23] <waylandbill> _BS_: ok. well it looks like we need to use dpkg directly anyway.
[11:25] <_BS_> waylandbill: <sigh> Good point. Searching web for 'x11-common xli' brought up Debian bug reports that the dependencies are wrong. Shouldn't be able to get here sort of thing. But NO - they couldn't show the sequence of commands to work through it now could they!!!
[11:25] <waylandbill> _BS_: try: dpkg -f install --force-overwrite
[11:26] <_BS_> waylandbill: Try again please?
[11:26] <_BS_> dpkg -f install --force-overwrite
[11:26] <_BS_> dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `install': No such file or directory
[11:27] <waylandbill> dpkg -i --force-overwrite x11-common
[11:28] <waylandbill> wait a sec. that's not right
[11:28] <alomelo> hi anybody can tell me how to install transkode
[11:28] <waylandbill> _BS_: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common   <-- put the full filename of the x11-common package
[11:29] <waylandbill> alomelo: is that to rip dvd's?
[11:29] <alomelo> no to change encoding of audio files
[11:30] <waylandbill> alomelo: I was thinking something else then. :-)
[11:30] <alomelo> i think that one for dvds is transcode. am not sure
[11:34] <waylandbill> alomelo: where does one acquire transkode then?
[11:34] <alomelo> acquire? from a repository  i suppose
[11:34] <_BS_> waylandbill: What a mouthful. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11160/
[11:34] <waylandbill> it's not in the ubuntu repositories. I mean is there a project website? how did you know it exists.
[11:34] <_BS_> /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb
[11:34] <alomelo> i used it at another distro based on kde
[11:34] <alomelo> it seems to stay in packages of ubuntu at ubuntus website
[11:34] <waylandbill> _BS_: looks like it succeeded.
[11:34] <alomelo> It stays at kde-app web site too
[11:34] <waylandbill> !info transcode
[11:34] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2293 kB, installed size 5424 kB
[11:34] <waylandbill> alomelo: that look like it?
[11:34] <alomelo> may be that one is the one for video
[11:35] <waylandbill> there's no transkode
[11:35] <waylandbill> !info transkode
[11:35] <ubotu> Package transkode does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:36] <waylandbill> alomelo: they have a sourceforge project site for it though
[11:36] <alomelo> ok ubotu i ll try them
[11:36] <alomelo> i know the sourceforge site but i dont remember if they have a .deb file
[11:36] <waylandbill> alomelo: no. you're going to have to build it
[11:36] <alomelo> i dont want to ttry with tar.gzs
[11:37] <waylandbill> !build
[11:37] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:37] <waylandbill> alomelo: it's nothing as long as you have the dependencies
[11:37] <waylandbill> !b-e
[11:37] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:37] <_BS_> waylandbill: Yep - THANK YOU. Did apt-get -f install again, did stuff, and again, was clean. Synaptic clean. Back to 'update-manager -c'. Hopefully it'll all go clean, but I doubt it. Thanks again. I may be back!
[11:37] <alomelo> i guess but whats the aim of repos?
[11:38] <waylandbill> alomelo: just because a project exists doesn't mean it should be in the repositories.
[11:38] <alomelo> i know waylandbill
[11:39] <alomelo> am ust trying to use repos
[11:39] <waylandbill> alomelo: if it is specialized in use, has security flaws, or fatal bugs, or just the MOTU haven't gotten around to putting it there, it won't be there. :-)
[11:39] <alomelo> and forget about the dependencies, compilation etc
[11:39] <waylandbill> !motu
[11:39] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[11:39] <waylandbill> alomelo: put a request for it to the motu then
[11:39] <Jucato> #ubuntu-motu
[11:39] <alomelo> yea that may be my way
[11:40] <alomelo> another question
[11:40] <waylandbill> morning Jucato (afternoon for you though probably)
[11:40] <Jucato> evening actually :)
[11:40] <alomelo> adept manager was upgrdaing some packages
[11:41] <alomelo> and it was frozen at 83%
[11:41] <alomelo> i closed the program
[11:41] <waylandbill> alomelo: rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:41] <alomelo> but a process is still using the sources.list file
[11:41] <alomelo> then what about the upgrade?
[11:42] <waylandbill> alomelo: adept doesn't tell where the lockfile is contained as apt-get does. It woul make sense if it did I guess. :-)
[11:42] <waylandbill> alomelo: you should then be able to repeat the process.
[11:43] <alomelo> lets try
[11:44] <alomelo> adept is not openning
[11:44] <waylandbill> did it give an error?
[11:45] <alomelo> no it didnt. i did sudo aptitude before and it complained that i must do dpkg --configure -a
[11:45] <Jucato> !adeptfix | alomelo
[11:45] <ubotu> alomelo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:46] <waylandbill> thx Jucato. I can't remember all of ubotu's factoid triggers. :-)
[11:46] <Jucato> neither can I... I just happen to know some :P
[11:46] <SGL> Hi
[11:46] <alomelo> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[11:49] <alomelo> there are 3 adept processes running: adept_notifier,adept_updater and kdesu -u root -c kdesu adept_manager
[11:49] <alomelo> may it be because of these 3 procs/
[11:49] <Jucato> (you can leave adept_notifier alone)
[11:51] <alomelo> I killed them all and tried sudo dpkg --conf.... and it worked
[11:53] <alomelo> but i cant still open adept it freezes
[12:01] <Vincent_k> !install
[12:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:01] <hw> OT: How can I adjust the mouse scroll wheel on adobe acrobat reader?
[12:08] <eilker> !Ardour
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <eilker> !ardour
[12:21] <SGL> Hello
[12:22] <SGL> How does one `jail` a user to his or her home-directory?
[12:31] <thomax_> !grub > thomax_
[12:31] <jarle> SGL: I think chroot will do the trick...
[12:41] <shaffox> so, you see really nice  desktops with kubuntu, how can you do that ? got any sites with tutorials or something
[12:47] <bubblenut> Hi, I'm using KDE in Ubuntu (by installing Ubuntu and then kde) but fonts are really messed up in KDE
[12:47] <koriel> spell checking doesn't work it doesn't detect any wrong words
[12:49] <bubblenut> Is there any other fonts package I can install to help things?
[12:53] <eilker> !ethereal
[12:53] <ubotu> ethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB
[12:54] <PhinnFort> !ksniffer
[12:54] <ubotu> ksniffer: network sniffing application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 114 kB, installed size 708 kB
[12:55] <Vincent_k> I on an ssh session to my server and tryed to wgetsomething. how do I abort wget, it just times out and retries?
[12:55] <eilker> !ardour
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <PhinnFort> !killall
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <eilker> !NoteEdit
[12:57] <ubotu> noteedit: KDE Music Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.1-2 (edgy), package size 841 kB, installed size 2492 kB
[12:59] <alomelo> hi i get this "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: wma9dmod.dll" when trying to convert wma to mp3
[12:59] <VSpike> Anyone know when the 1.0 of k3b is going to hit the edgy repos?
[12:59] <alomelo> by using mplayer and lame
[01:00] <mustasj> VSpike: I just asked, no answer... Let me know if you find a deb
[01:07] <bubblenut> !font
[01:07] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:08] <mcquaid> i have issues with nsplugins using high cpu
[01:08] <bubblenut> !Multiverse
[01:08] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:08] <VSpike> mustasj: Thanks .. I will
[01:08] <mcquaid> i know it's for netscape plugins but for what exactly, flash?
[01:09] <VSpike> Maybe I should learn how to make one :/
[01:10] <bubblenut> !font
[01:10] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:10] <bubblenut> !Multiverse
[01:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:11] <PhinnFort> !java
[01:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:13] <bubblenut> !mplayer
[01:13] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[01:14] <N6REJ> morning all, I'm doing something really wrong cause I can't share my hp laserjet with my xp machine via samba  Can anyone help.
[01:14] <N6REJ> I've done this before, I'm just missing something.
[01:21] <bubblenut> Anyone know why fonts may be messed up in KDE but not in Gnome?
[01:23] <odwrotnie> hi
[01:23] <odwrotnie> please help me
[01:23] <odwrotnie> i vave to install minimal required kde system
[01:24] <odwrotnie> what do i have to install?
[01:24] <odwrotnie> i mean by apt-get
[01:24] <N6REJ> odwrotnie: for a desktop or as a server?
[01:24] <odwrotnie> N6REJ: desktop
[01:24] <alomelo> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <odwrotnie> N6REJ: but without anything additional like openoffice
[01:25] <odwrotnie> kubuntu-desktop is to much
[01:25] <Jucato> odwrotnie: kde-core
[01:25] <N6REJ> odwrotnie: you can always take OO out aftwards
[01:25] <N6REJ> Jucato: core won't install X will it?
[01:25] <N6REJ> !kde-core
[01:25] <ubotu> kde-core: the K Desktop Environment core modules. In component main, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:26] <odwrotnie> N6REJ: but its installing amarok, k3b, etc, i dont need them, mayby You tell how to install minimal kde for server ;)
[01:26] <N6REJ> odwrotnie: let me find the page
[01:26] <Jucato> odwrotnie, N6REJ: http://jucato.org/kde/kde-core.html or http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core
[01:26] <alomelo> kde for server is not necessary
[01:27] <N6REJ> Jucato: nice!
[01:27] <N6REJ> alomelo: I agree
[01:27] <odwrotnie> N6REJ: thanks
[01:27] <Jucato> GUI for server is not necessary :D
[01:28] <N6REJ> alomelo: I have it for one reason only, and that is for the few things that I don't know how to do for system config from the CLI, but I installed it module by module.  Not as meta packages.
[01:28] <mcquaid> it seems for me numerous  pages with flash ads can make nsplugins cpu usage skyrocket
[01:29] <mcquaid> i don't want to block flash entirely though, is there a way to simulate clicktoflash like flashblock?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> mcquaid: welcome to flash - it's a hog
[01:29] <odwrotnie> N6REJ: what packages have you installed on server? kde-core?
[01:29] <mcquaid> thoreauputic: flash has been pretty bad in the past, but flash 9 is pretty good in firefox at least
[01:30] <N6REJ> odwrotnie: the list is long, but basically you need X and kde-core and kubuntu-default-settings.  let me find the page... Jacato gave a good one.
[01:30] <mcquaid> so it's probably some nsplugins issue who knows
[01:30] <thoreauputic> mcquaid: it;s better - bu some sites just use so much flash that the CPU goes way up anyway
[01:30] <thoreauputic> mcquaid: I use flashblock and firefox
[01:30] <N6REJ> odwrotnie: here you go https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE
[01:31] <mcquaid> yes i use flashblock and ff as well, just giving konqueror a spin
[01:31] <N6REJ> odwrotnie: read CAREFULLY
[01:31] <mcquaid> and it's pretty good. but this is kind of a showstopper
[01:31] <mcquaid> as i mentioned don't want to filter *.swf entirely
[01:31] <N6REJ> who wants to help me get my printer shared?
[01:31] <mcquaid> i'd like to be able to select the odd flash file when i want
[01:31] <odwrotnie> N6REJ: ok, tahank You!
[01:31] <N6REJ> odwrotnie: np
[01:33] <N6REJ> hmmmm, I can't access anything through samba :(
[01:35] <JuJuBee> Is there a way to disable the trackpad on my laptop?  I always use a connected mouse (USB).
[01:36] <bubblenut> Hi, does anyone know how I can change my screen resolution in KDE 3.5? I can't find a way of doing it through the control center.
[01:36] <Jucato> System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[01:37] <bentob0x> I have locked files on my desktop that I can't display via ls  -al
[01:37] <bentob0x> how can I get rid of them
[01:37] <bentob0x> or unlock them?
[01:37] <mcquaid> thoreauputic: i didn't notice, you can load plugins on demand, seems fine for flash
[01:37] <thoreauputic> mcquaid: ah, nice
[01:38] <N6REJ> when your doing netmasking /32 is the entire class "c" right?
[01:38] <bubblenut> Jucato: Is that supposed to be in Control Center?
[01:39] <Jucato> bubblenut: are you using System Settings or KControl? in KControl it would be under Peripherals -> Display
[01:40] <bubblenut> Jucato: I'm using KDE Control Center but I don't have a Display section under Peripherals, where do I find System Settings
[01:40] <bubblenut> Jucato: I'm on a laptop here if that makes a difference
[01:41] <mastermind> HEY GUYS ...
[01:41] <Jucato> bubblenut: shouldn't make a difference... is it a default installation of Kubuntu?
[01:41] <bubblenut> Jucato: No, I installed Ubuntu and then from there installed KDE
[01:42] <Jucato> bubblenut: what did you install? kde or kubuntu-desktop?
[01:42] <mastermind> is there any software available for download meter like tat of windows?????
[01:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[01:42] <bubblenut> Jucato: kde, I'll give kde-desktop a go
[01:43] <Jucato> bubblenut: kubuntu-desktop will install kubuntu-specific packages and settings
[01:43] <Jucato> bubblenut: if you just need the Monitor & Display module, try to install the kde-guidance package
[01:43] <mastermind> is there someone to help me out..
[01:44] <bubblenut> Jucato: Thanks, I'm just downloading it all now.
[01:45] <mastermind> anyone out there..
[01:46] <Jucato> mastermind: yes. but I don't know what a download meter does
[01:47] <mastermind> jucato, a download meter tells how much u have downloaded from the net..
[01:47] <bobdhicks> I have installed kubuntu. Having trouble with administrator priviliges. Can someone help?
[01:47] <BluesKaj> hey Jucato, Ktorrent no longer links up do the download manager in FF ...any idea how to fix it ?
[01:48] <Jucato> mastermind: ah a network monitor?
[01:48] <mastermind> it gives u complete data about how much u download fron the net..
[01:48] <Jucato> knetstats or knemo I think
[01:48] <Jucato> BluesKaj: er.. come again?
[01:48] <mastermind> yeah...similarly..
[01:49] <Jucato> mastermind: I just gave you 2 apps :)
[01:49] <mastermind> jucato: i dont get u ??
 knetstats or knemo I think
[01:50] <Ace2016> i use knemo
[01:50] <Ace2016> it shows i download too much
[01:51] <mastermind> where do i download these applications from i.e knestats or knemo
[01:51] <Ace2016> mastermind: you can do it in synaptic
[01:51] <Jucato> !info knetstats
[01:51] <ubotu> knetstats: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 596 kB
[01:51] <BluesKaj> Jucato, when launching a torrent file on the net the dialog no longer automatically links to ktorrent
[01:51] <Jucato> Ace2016: you're on #kubuntu :)
[01:51] <JuJuBee> Anybody know how to disable the trackpad on a laptop?
[01:51] <JuJuBee> I dont see the setting.
[01:51] <Ace2016> Jucato: i know i just realised, but i like synaptic
[01:52] <Jucato> Ace2016: yes, but it invites another possible question like "what is synaptic" or "how do I install it". just saving you that trouble :D
[01:52] <Ace2016> in konsole, "sudo apt-get install synaptic", then launch it using "kdesu synaptic", then you can search for it
[01:53] <Ace2016> thats how you install it, and this is synaptic: http://www.guiaubuntupt.org/wiki/images/instalar_tudo/Synaptic.png
[01:53] <Jucato> heh :)
[01:54] <Jucato> BluesKaj: Firefox has its own File Associations I think
[01:54] <Ace2016> or you could try, apt-cache search knemo, find the right package and sudo apt-get install it
[01:54] <Ace2016> but thats no fun
[01:54] <Jucato> :)
[01:54] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I'm not a Firefox user, so I'm not sure
[01:54] <BluesKaj> ok Jucato , I'll check that out
[01:57] <mastermind> ubotu:where do i find these things ..network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 596 kB
[01:58] <Jucato> mastermind: ubotu is a bot
[01:58] <Jucato> mastermind: in the repositories. use Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager
[01:59] <Ryiel> !hu
[01:59] <ubotu> Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[02:00] <N6REJ> samba help anyone?
[02:03] <bobdhicks> Help. When I click on Administrator Priviliges, it asks for a password. It rejects the password I used when I installed. That is the only one I entered. I just installed Kubuntu. I can't do anything without the password.
[02:04] <Ace2016> you can either set the root password, or edit the sudoers file so that you never have to use a password for doing stuff again
[02:05] <thoreauputic> Ace2016: sudo without a password is a Bad Idea (tm)
[02:05] <Ace2016> thoreauputic: i know but it sucks to keep typing in my password
[02:05] <bobdhicks> Thank you. Can you give me a quick explanation as to how do set the root password or edit the sudoers file?
[02:06] <Ace2016> sudo passwd root
[02:06] <Ace2016> then type in the root password you want to set
[02:06] <Ace2016> then use that password  in kcontrol
[02:08] <bobdhicks> Thanks for the help Ace2016.
[02:09] <Ace2016> hey i have an idea, maybe i should change my password to ~, then i could do, sudo su, press enter and then type ~
[02:10] <Ace2016> no one would think my password is only one character long
[02:11] <faidillinger> hi there
[02:14] <faidillinger> hey could someone please enlight me on how to get amarok (xine engine) working again. see my computer crashed, and when i rebooted, i could no longer play any mp3 file. amarok crashes when i try to play an mp3 file. i get a xine demux or whatever message... could someone please gimme some help
[02:15] <faidillinger> i cant stay on the computer when there's no music playing
[02:15] <faidillinger> i can play everything with vlc
[02:17] <RaMPaGe> alguien k able espaol??
[02:17] <RaMPaGe> a ver si me puede exar un cable
[02:17] <Jucato> !es | RaMPaGe
[02:17] <ubotu> RaMPaGe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:17] <RaMPaGe> ok gracias
[02:17] <faidillinger> !fr | RaMPaGe
[02:17] <ubotu> RaMPaGe: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:17] <Jucato> faidillinger: he's speaking in spanish
[02:18] <faidillinger> lol i know
[02:18] <faidillinger> i was just plaing with it
[02:18] <faidillinger> playing
[02:18] <Jucato> don't
[02:18] <faidillinger> ...
[02:19] <link> I'm going to follow the guide in Ubuntu Forum's compiz/beryl customizatation sticky.  But one of the steps describes enableing the desktop effects through the gnome system menu.  Does anyone know how to enable the desktop effects through the KDE menu?
[02:19] <Jucato> don't play w/ the bot (in here). and don't play with it on somebody else
[02:19] <SheaTara> Every time I open up the printer configurator, it asks me for a password, but it does not accept any password I know of, and it lets me configure the printer anyway. How do I get rid of it?!
[02:19] <senwei_> !fr | RaMPaGe
[02:19] <ubotu> RaMPaGe: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:20] <Jucato> senwei_: don't play w/ the bot (in here). and don't play with it on somebody else
[02:20] <senwei_> ok
[02:21] <N6REJ> !samba
[02:21] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:26] <faidillinger> hey could someone please enlight me on how to get amarok (xine engine) working again. see my computer crashed, and when i rebooted, i could no longer play any mp3 file. amarok crashes when i try to play an mp3 file. i get a xine demux or whatever message... could someone please gimme some help
[02:27] <xushi> are there any documentations on how to setup an svn server in kubuntu ?
[02:27] <senwei_> faidillinger:why don't you try audacious?
[02:29] <Jucato> faidillinger: just a hunch,try moving the ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc file and try running it again
[02:29] <bubblenut> I have installed kubuntu-desktop and, if anything, my fonts are even more messed up now than they were
[02:31] <BluesKaj> bubblenut, sys/settings/ appearance/fonts
[02:31] <faidillinger> senwei: because for the sake of it, I, for one time, want to get my problem resolved instead of switching for a software that i do not know
[02:33] <xardias> xushi: there are generic instructions for linux in the subversion book (see subversion homepage)
[02:33] <xushi> ta
[02:34] <senwei_> faidillinger:because i use the audacious .....yeah you can try to get it resolved
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Jucato , the dialog asks which file to "open with" , so I searched for and then browsed to /usr/bin/ktorrent ... it works ...for future info :)
[02:40] <Jucato> ah so not the Firefox dialog box? but KDE's?
[02:41] <faidillinger> Jucato you know you can suck on my dick all day if yoou want to
[02:41] <Jucato> !language | faidillinger
[02:41] <ubotu> faidillinger: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:41] <faidillinger> lol
[02:42] <kaoticevil> grrrrrrr......... @#$&@ permissions!
[02:42] <faidillinger> just kiddin m8
[02:47] <VSpike> mmm I now have a big mug full of columbian medellin supremo and I'm very happy
[02:50] <BluesKaj> yes Jucato in KDE
[02:50] <Jucato> BluesKaj: ah in that case Konqueror -> Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations
[02:58] <progek> anyone here ever use recordmydesktop?
[02:59] <psyko_free> hi
[03:01] <r3factored> anyone know of an open-source linux-based macromedia flash-compatible creator?
[03:04] <VSpike> this is funny: http://www.linuxpersonas.com/
[03:05] <kaoticevil> has anyone actually gotten the .smbcredentials file to work properly?
[03:05] <blue_> how do i get the pane down the side of Konversation that shows all my servers?
[03:05] <kaoticevil> i keep getting an error that the file cant be opened
[03:08] <Ace2016> Hi all
[03:10] <PhinnFort> !azureus
[03:10] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:12] <PhinnFort> what would happen if libstdc++5 got uninstalled?
[03:13] <PhinnFort> !libstdc++5
[03:13] <ubotu> libstdc++5: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-13ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 289 kB, installed size 852 kB
[03:15] <xardias> blue_: settings->interface->tabs->position=bottom
[03:16] <ubuntu__> 8grup
[03:17] <ubuntu__> !grup
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <ubuntu__> !grub
[03:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:17] <ubuntu__> >nick Marbug
[03:19] <r3factored> anyone know of an open-source linux-based macromedia flash-compatible creator?
[03:21] <xushi> is it just me or is apache configured one directory above for /var/www/ ?
[03:22] <xushi> it should be /var/www/apache-default, but it's /var/www/ only. If you go to http://localhost
[03:23] <lenscape_> !wine
[03:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:23] <lenscape_> what's with the Wine non-update?
[03:24] <faidillinger> hello
[03:25] <faidillinger> Could one say to me how to install second life on KUBUNTU
[03:25] <faidillinger> hoho
[03:26] <VSpike> faidillinger: it's pretty easy I think
[03:27] <VSpike> You download the source tarball
[03:27] <Jucato> faidillinger: you don't need to "install" it
[03:29] <VSpike> faidillinger: you unpack the tarball, cd into the directory, and run "./secondlife"
[03:29] <ubuntu_> !grub
[03:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:29] <faidillinger> what
[03:29] <faidillinger> ??????
[03:29] <faidillinger> please
[03:34] <ubuntu_> can someone help me with grub?
[03:34] <VSpike> faidillinger: "wget http://secondlife.com/downloads/viewer/SecondLife_i686_1_13_3_2.tar.bz2 && tar -xvjf SecondLife_i686_1_13_3_2.tar.bz2 && cd SecondLife_i686_1_13_3_2 && ./secondlife"
[03:35] <ubuntu_> I trie to reinstall it but I can4t do it, I always get errors :s
[03:35] <BluesKaj> !grub
[03:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:35] <gioacchino> hello
[03:36] <gioacchino> !amarok
[03:36] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[03:36] <gioacchino> how to set amarok with timidity ?
[03:37] <faidillinger> VSPIKE I DID IT BUT what i do after it
[03:38] <VSpike> faidillinger: you ran that command? I dunno... it's still downloading it on mine so I dunno if I got it right yet :)
[03:38] <VSpike> The joys of 512k broadband.  Still, it's better than dialup
[03:44] <M_Fatih> hi everybody
[03:44] <faidillinger> hi
[03:44] <lontra> hi M_Fatih
[03:44] <lontra> hi faidillinger
[03:46] <M_Fatih> i'm using editor quanta for my php files, i want to work in one quanta window. but when i try to open php file, quanta opens all php files in different windows.. and when i'm working there is too many window duplicates, how can i set quanta for open files in older quanta window? (sorry for bad english..)
[03:46] <VSpike> faidillinger: It works for me
[03:47] <faidillinger> not me
[03:47] <faidillinger> What did you do
[03:47] <VSpike> I ran that command line I gave you above
[03:47] <lontra> M_Fatih: maybe you can configure this in the preferences menu?
[03:48] <faidillinger> ok
[03:48] <lontra> M_Fatih: there's probably an option to have a new instance opened as a tab?
[03:48] <lontra> though i've never used quanta :)
[03:48] <lontra> i use vi or nano for all my editing
[03:48] <M_Fatih> lontra: no, there isn't any option in preference window.. i look everyvhere but i can't find the option :(
[03:48] <VSpike> faidillinger: did you already download the file?
[03:50] <lontra> M_Fatih: you probably need to edit a file or something then...could you use split windows?
[03:50] <lontra> M_Fatih: http://lists.kde.org/?l=quanta&m=113519864016810&w=2
[03:51] <lontra> maybe that helps?
[03:51] <M_Fatih> hmm i'm looking
[03:51] <filemover> hi Ive deleted some stuff i shouldnt have doing something really simple and Ive lost apt and all the fonts for firefox save dialogue can anyone help
[03:52] <lontra> filemover: you lost apt?  do you have apt-get in the terminal?
[03:52] <filemover> no
[03:52] <filemover> lost it altogether
[03:52] <filemover> lol
[03:53] <lontra> filemover: what did you do?  are you sure?  does synaptic or adept work?
[03:53] <filemover> they do work but it is strange
[03:54] <filemover> ill just get the message sorry for being so vague
[03:54] <lontra> filemover: do you type 'sudo apt-get install blah blah'
[03:54] <lontra> filemover: how about a screenshot
[03:54] <filemover> ok
[03:54] <filemover> u got a pste bin
[03:54] <filemover> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2 No such file or directory)
[03:54] <filemover> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:54] <lontra> filemover: ah..
[03:54] <filemover> :)
[03:55] <lontra> filemover: you need to kill adept-updater probably :)
[03:55] <filemover> ok
[03:55] <Jucato> !adeptfix | filemover
[03:55] <ubotu> filemover: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:55] <filemover> so ps -A grep
[03:55] <lontra> filemover: type top in a terminal and look for adept things and then kill those
[03:55] <filemover> ok
[03:55] <lontra> filemover: or you could tyr what Jucato said but i've never done that
[03:56] <filemover> i tried it
[03:56] <filemover> nothing
[03:56] <filemover> ill kill the notifier
[03:57] <Party> any ppl managed to pair a nokia with kubuntu feisty? it's driving me nuts :)
[03:57] <Party> bluetooth
[03:57] <lontra> filemover: usually it's just adept acting out of control or that you've got some other instance going
[03:57] <filemover> ok
[03:57] <lontra> Party: would you say it's driving you 'nutty'?
[03:57] <filemover> but i think i deleted some serious stuff LOL
[03:58] <ubuntu_> bleh
[03:58] <Jucato> Party: I think it's a known bug that pin  helper isn't working. ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:58] <ubuntu_> can someone help me with restoring that grub?
[03:58] <Party> lontra:  something like that yes :)
[03:58] <ubuntu_> !grub
[03:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:58] <lontra> filemover: if you did...you have 2 options that i know of.  the first is reinstall...the second is chroot into that environment from a live cd and reinstall those borked packages...the first is easier
[03:58] <Party> Jucato: thnx!
[03:58] <ubuntu_> I looked at those things bit it doesn4t help :s
[03:59] <filemover> get knoppix and fix grub with that
[03:59] <filemover> easy
[03:59] <filemover> lol
[03:59] <ubuntu_> knoppix ?
[03:59] <filemover> yeah
[03:59] <lontra> ubuntu_: you can also reinstall with a kubuntu or ubuntu cd
[03:59] <ubuntu_> yeah
[03:59] <lontra> ubuntu_: grub that is
[03:59] <filemover> well i have done it b4
[03:59] <ubuntu_> but I don4t want to reinstall kubuntu and my windows
[04:00] <ubuntu_> I4m on the live cd now...
[04:00] <lontra> ubuntu_: chroot into your environment and run grub-install then update-grub
[04:00] <ubuntu_> did that and it failed
[04:00] <filemover> good advice
[04:00] <lontra> ubuntu_: you don't need to reinstall kubuntu or windows
[04:00] <lontra> ubuntu_: are you sure?  you could also try installing lilo through a chroot too
[04:01] <ubuntu_> lilo?
[04:01] <lontra> !lilo
[04:01] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[04:01] <ubuntu_> I4ll use GRUB :>
[04:02] <ubuntu_> but I have several things I can chose with that grub_install
[04:02] <hatta>  lilo is so simple
[04:02] <ubuntu_> and I4m a bit noob :x
[04:02] <hatta> grub is an abomination before god
[04:02] <ubuntu_> how do I install lilo?
[04:02] <filemover> Ive got kubuntu on another machine u reckon i could copy the whole var directory onto this machine to fix all this
[04:03] <filemover> :)
[04:03] <hatta> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO-2.html
[04:04] <ubuntu_> I hope that page is fast because I have a very slow connection
[04:04] <lontra> ubuntu_: chroot into your environment and apt-get install lilo
[04:04] <ubuntu_> ah loaded :>
[04:04] <ubuntu_> zhere will they be installed on ?
[04:07] <eilker> what do u do when u need root rights in konqueror ? i type, kdesu konqueror , isnt there any other practical way ?
[04:07] <lontra> eilker: why would you ever need root rights in konqueror?
[04:08] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /sbin/lilo
[04:08] <ubuntu_> /etc/lilo.conf: No such file or directory
[04:08] <ubuntu_> sigh :s
[04:08] <eilker> lontra> some configration, some copy - paste
[04:11] <AniHatzis> Hi @ all. I want to set up dual-screen on kubuntu 6.10, but failed yet.
[04:12] <AniHatzis> I tried with "System Settings" > "Monitor & Display", switched to Administrator mode. In tab "Hardware" added the second monitor, then in "Size, Orientation..." checked "Second screen" with "Dual screen" selected.
[04:13] <AniHatzis> The strange thing: All the buttons on bottom of window ("Apply", "Reset", "Help", "Defaults") are de-activated.
[04:20] <ubuntu_> !grib SIGH
[04:20] <rahab> hi there
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grib sigh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <ubuntu_> !grub SIGH
[04:20] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[04:20] <rahab> did something get messed up with the fglrx driver the last days?
[04:20] <ubuntu_> !grub
[04:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:22] <rahab> I get: "fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when i start fglrxinfo
[04:22] <rahab> but my xserver is up and running with fglrx
[04:22] <eilker> !kdenlive
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdenlive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <AniHatzis> !dual screen
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <rahab> !fglrx
[04:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:26] <ubuntu_> I think I will need some help :s
[04:26] <ubuntu_> I can4t get it to work :s
[04:31] <epimeth> !he
[04:32] <ubotu>         :
[04:32] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[04:32] <epimeth> soooo... lets talk locales!  !locale is totally useless!
[04:33] <eagles0513875> what is the command to unlock adept
[04:33] <ubuntu_> !grub
[04:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:33] <eilker> !pitivi
[04:33] <ubotu> pitivi: non-linear audio/video editor using GStreamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 568 kB
[04:33] <epimeth> eagles:  what do you mean?
[04:34] <epimeth> eagles0513875: like, the password that you enter when you try and open it?
[04:34] <eagles0513875> pkgs didnt finish installing and its locked adept pkg manager
[04:35] <eagles0513875> dpkg something is the command i just need the rest of the command to finish installing the pkgs that were interrupted installin
[04:35] <Jucato> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:36] <epimeth> jucato... you're always so aloof :-)
[04:36] <epimeth> know anything about setting up locales?
[04:36] <Jucato> O.o
[04:36] <eagles0513875> ty jucato
[04:36] <Jucato> !locales | epimeth
[04:36] <ubotu> epimeth: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:36] <epimeth> absolutely useless
[04:37] <epimeth> it assumes you don't have either installed (I had both)
[04:37] <Jucato> epimeth: the answer would be no.. :(
[04:37] <eagles0513875> ty jucato
[04:37] <Jucato> eagles0513875: yw
[04:37] <epimeth> arg... I'll try more google then
[04:38] <waylandbill> epimeth: aloof? That means like detached, remote. If Jucato was aloof, he'd be lurking in the shadows saying nothing.
[04:38] <Jucato> waylandbill: hence my "O.o" reaction :)
[04:38] <AniHatzis> very funny... my KDE wallet got empty? password to wallet still working, but all stored keys are gone.
[04:39] <eilker> what was the command to clean /var/cache/apt ? i have 1.6 gb there :)
[04:39] <eilker> apt-get clean ?
[04:39] <Jucato> w/ sudo. yes
[04:40] <eilker> thanx
[04:40] <jhutchins> sudo rm -rf /var/cachee/apt/*
[04:41] <jhutchins> NOT the correct way.
[04:41] <eilker> :)
[04:42] <eagles0513875> eilker apt-get clean or autoclean
[04:43] <eagles0513875> im setting up vmware player how do i hit ok in the config screen
[04:43] <eilker> eagles0513875> sudo autoclean ? i didnt know this,
[04:43] <eagles0513875> if u type apt-get it bring up a list of apt-get commands eilker
[04:43] <eagles0513875> im setting up vmware player how do i hit ok in the config screen
[04:44] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[04:44] <skittles> when can I download the new feisty fawn? what is the release date?
[04:44] <eagles0513875> april 19th
[04:44] <Jucato> !feisty | skittles
[04:44] <ubotu> skittles: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:44] <eagles0513875> plus or minuse 2 to 3 days
[04:44] <eilker> eagles0513875 : , i never used vmware player, why dont u use server or workstation ? is player more practical ?
[04:45] <jhutchins> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems
[04:45] <eagles0513875> eilker is ur user name registered
[04:45] <jhutchins> Oops, sloppy mouse.
[04:45] <jhutchins> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[04:45] <eagles0513875> so i can pm u
[04:45] <eilker> jhutchins: thanx for link
[04:45] <jhutchins> eilker: Player is free.
[04:45] <eilker> eagles0513875>: let me register
[04:45] <eagles0513875> server is to now btw j
[04:45] <skittles> how do i set my cam? is there any way to set colors(typing) in yahoo or icq?
[04:45] <eagles0513875> ok eilker
[04:46] <eilker> eagles0513875>: done
[04:46] <eilker> jhutchins> : vmware server is free too
[04:46] <eagles0513875> yes it is eilker
[04:47] <CarinArr> i'm having sound problems (i.e. no sound at all) on my satellite pro p00-465. I've googled but it all seems like greek to me what's returned and there's really nothing related to my specific model number
[04:47] <skittles> needs more coffee brb
[04:47] <CarinArr> but it's talking about how there's some problems in some p100s with the dsdt
[04:47] <CarinArr> does anyone have a clue what that's all about
[04:49] <ackbahr> Hello! Every time I try to access anything via the network (on my LAN or outside), my computer freezes for a few seconds and then continues, displaying a frame with something about it finding no appropriate proxy. What can I have transformed in my various tweaking that might have triggered such a reaction? Thanks!
[04:50] <Scuzzlebuttz> how do i set-up my cam? on edgy
[04:51] <AniHatzis> ackbahr: probably you should check your proxy settings. if this happens in konqueror try Settings > Internet & Network > Proxy.
[04:51] <Scuzzlebuttz> how do you set ur text in color, have tried it numberous times, what i'm doing isn't working
[04:51] <AniHatzis> akcbahr: if this happens to a non-KDE app, e.g. firefox, you may want to check proxy settings of the app itself.
[04:51] <ackbahr> AniHatzis: Thanks a lot!
[04:52] <ackbahr> AniHatzis: It's konqueror, indeed. (never with firefox)
[04:52] <Scuzzlebuttz> <is a newbie to Linux>
[04:53] <AniHatzis> ackbahr: are you sure you need to configure a proxy?
[04:53] <Scuzzlebuttz> guess i came into the wrong room, but tks a bunch for all ur ehlp everyone l8trz
[04:53] <ackbahr> AniHatzis: It was on "detect proxy settings", or something like that, and I ticked "connect directly to the internet"
[04:54] <AniHatzis> ackbahr: does it work now?
[04:54] <ackbahr> AniHatzis: Well, indeed no, so I don't understand how this setting came about!
[04:54] <ackbahr> I'll try it....
[04:55] <ackbahr> AniHatzis: Yes, no more strange message!
[04:55] <AniHatzis> :)
[04:55] <ackbahr> Thanks a lot.... Now why on earth did I set this thus? No idea.... Well, works now! Thanks!
[04:55] <Shukaido> Hihi all ;)
[04:55] <AniHatzis> ackbahr: because of famous "trial & error" ;)
[04:56] <Shukaido> ok, I'm a total linux Noob here...
[04:56] <AniHatzis> Shukaido: so, i am, too
[04:56] <AniHatzis> ;)
[04:56] <ackbahr> AniHatzis: Sure.... I spent some dozens of hours tweaking my xgl, so maybe I messed everything up, up to this kind of things!
[04:56] <pascutti> me too ;P
[04:56] <Shukaido> I was dumping Kubuntu onto a removable usb drive, and GRUB got installed onto my laptop instead of the removable drive...
[04:56] <Maksuf> Hello everyone. :] 
[04:56] <Shukaido> now, i have to have the removable pluged in in order to boot up my laptop...
[04:57] <Shukaido> was wondering how, if at all, i could fix this... short of a total re-install
[04:57] <Shukaido> I'm on a Dell Inspiron with XP Media Center Edition
[04:58] <ackbahr> AniHatzis: I must admit that linux is now quite user friendly, but when you really try to tweak a detail, it's like a Rubik's cube! (well, at least you see the cube, whereas with W****ws you dont....)
[04:58] <AniHatzis> ackbahr: I know thix. I do tweaking around myself.
[04:58] <Shukaido> any ideas?
[04:58] <ackbahr> AniHatzis: I bet everyone in here does! :)
[04:58] <Shukaido> can I "move" GRUB to my removable drive?
[04:59] <Maksuf> Hmm.
[04:59] <Maksuf> Is there a kubuntu-feisty support channel?
[04:59] <Maksuf> Don't want to ask silly questions here.
[04:59] <Shukaido> the idea was to have the ability to plug in the usb drive and have Linux at my fingertips on any comp that could boot form USB...
[05:00] <Shukaido> but, if the boot info's on my laptop, it kinda defeats the purpose...
[05:00] <waxyfresh> Shukaido: you can install to the usb
[05:00] <AniHatzis> ackbahr: you are right, i still have to learn more on gnu/linux, but it is absolutely better than windows.
[05:01] <Sanne> Maksuf: I don't think especially for Kubuntu, but there's #ubuntu+1
[05:01] <Maksuf> Hmm.
[05:01] <Maksuf> Okay.
[05:02] <Maksuf> mp3 + ogg support seems to be broken for me.
[05:02] <CarinArr> x
[05:02] <CarinArr> er
[05:02] <waxyfresh> im running ubuntu and want to have the "kill non responding app" thing that pops up with ctrl alt esp,how do i install this?
[05:03] <ackbahr> AniHatzis: I'm a beginner as well, but I had actually tried to drop W** without success for sometime, but with Edgy it's really easy now!
[05:03] <Sanne> Maksuf: I would try in #ubuntu+1. I'm still on Dapper even, so won't know anything about Feisty's specifics :)
[05:03] <ackbahr> Well, thanks all for everything, I gotta go.... So long and thanks for all the fish!
[05:05] <Shukaido> i know i can install to it... I did already
[05:05] <Shukaido> but when it installed GRUB for multi-boot, it did it on my computer HD, NOT on the USB
[05:05] <eilker> !updatedb
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updatedb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <waxyfresh> Shukaido: disconect you hdriveard
[05:06] <Shukaido> and I want to get rid of that... so I don't have to plug in my stupid usb drive in order to boot up my orrigional OS on the comp
[05:06] <waxyfresh> Shukaido: disconect you hard drive then do it again
[05:06] <eilker> was it "updatedb" or "update db" ?
[05:06] <Sanne> eilker: updatedb
[05:06] <Jucato> sudo updatedb
[05:07] <Shukaido> how do I get rid of it from my comp HD? so that it doesn't error out on me again?
[05:07] <eilker> thanx
[05:07] <waxyfresh> Shukaido: i dont know sorry
[05:07] <waxyfresh> !grub
[05:07] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:07] <Sanne> eilker: you can find all commands starting with "update" by typing "update<tab><tab>"
[05:08] <eilker> sanne: yeah , right.   tabbed,..
[05:17] <Shukaido> this link has a section on changing the disk GRUB is installed to, but it doesn't make sense to me, where are those changes being made, it just tells how to find the drives your /boot and / are installed to... not where to make the changes...
[05:17] <Shukaido> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:18] <waxyfresh> im running ubuntu and want to have the "kill non responding app" thing that pops up with ctrl alt esp,how do i install this?
[05:18] <bobdhicks> I'm still having trouble with passwords. As advised here, I used "sudo passwd root <password>". That worked in allowing me to change the time. But when I tried to use administrator prividges, the password responded "Conversation with su failed." I can't do some of the things I need to do because I don't have priviledges. (I was also told that after I used "sudo passwd root... to use that password in kcontrol.) Where do I do that? Thanks for any help.
[05:19] <Jucato> waxyfresh: "xkill" command
[05:21] <kristjan_> where do I dl most upto date feisty iso?
[05:22] <Jucato> !feisty | kristjan_
[05:22] <ubotu> kristjan_: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:22] <eagles0513875> how do i unlock /var/lib/dpkg
[05:23] <Jucato> !adeptfix | eagles0513875
[05:23] <ubotu> eagles0513875: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:23] <kristjan_> Jucato: does it have iso of current things? so I don't have to update much then installed?
[05:23] <Jucato> kristjan_: you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <Jucato> kristjan_: but there will always be daily upgrades until the day it's released
[05:26] <eagles0513875> how do i hit ok when a config box appears in adept
[05:28] <Jucato> eagles0513875: what are you trying to install?
[05:28] <eagles0513875> vmware player
[05:28] <Jucato> don't install it using Adept
[05:28] <eagles0513875> how should i install it
[05:28] <PhinnFort> !tor
[05:28] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[05:29] <PhinnFort> !privoxy
[05:29] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-2-1 (edgy), package size 830 kB, installed size 2160 kB
[05:29] <Jucato> eagles0513875: sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[05:29] <eagles0513875> ty jucato
[05:30] <rob-west> can someone help me with VNC
[05:34] <filemover> hi ive copied the var directory to a shared folder and im trying to copy it to another machine to fix a mistake i made but i get getting asked for authentication when i try to copy it over the network can anyone help
[05:45] <fernando_> hey ppp
[05:45] <Phoenix92x> Hi, could someone tell me how kubuntu manages USB disks that aren't mounted manually by the user? When I plug in a USB external HD for instance and it comes up as "usbdisk", how do I give that disk a particular name etc? One of my usb HDs I managed to name 'oni' somehow but I can't remember how and I'm having trouble finding any sort of documentation. Thanks
[05:45] <jhutchins> filemover: Supply authentification.
[05:46] <tux> hi
[05:47] <tux> i wnt to install kdevelo[
[05:47] <tux> kdevelop
[05:47] <tux> apt-get doesnt has it
[05:47] <tux> how can i change apt to look up debian sources?
[05:47] <filemover> ive tried it jhutchins but i think my problems are a little deeper than that now
[05:48] <CArdox_PT> ha algum portugues por aqui??
[05:48] <Lynoure> !pt | CArdox_PT
[05:48] <ubotu> CArdox_PT: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:48] <jhutchins> filemover: Some software like oo takes over the input system and won't recognize such sequences, you have to check the documentation of the sofware for how to insert or compose special characters.
[05:48] <jhutchins> filemover: Whoops!  That's what I get for tracking multiple conversations!
[05:49] <filemover> lol
[05:49] <jhutchins> filemover: What are you trying to use for transfer?
[05:49] <Sanne> tux: better don't use debian sources, they are not garanteed to work. And I'm sure you'll get kdevelop in the repositories.
[05:49] <Phoenix92x> another interesting part I just noticed is that the drive I managed to name 'oni' is owned by my user while the other two USB external HDs I want to be able to give names to other than 'usbdisk' are owned by 'ivman' and group 'plugdev'
[05:49] <filemover> im trying to transfer the whole var directory from one machine to another
[05:49] <filemover> but its not going to work
[05:49] <Sanne> tux: kdevelop is in universe
[05:50] <filemover> its to fix a problem i had
[05:50] <tux> Sanne:how, i went to www.kdevelop.org and no success installing the crap
[05:50] <filemover> i deleted a lot of fies in the var directory and i dont have a lot of things working
[05:50] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: Last I checked the mechanism to distinguish multiple USB storage devices didn't work as it was supposed to.  There are too many layers managing the process and they conflict.
[05:50] <jhutchins> filemover: This is why we don't delete things if we don't know what they are.
[05:51] <jhutchins> filemover: What I meant was what transport are you trying to use to copy the files?  scp?  rsync?
[05:51] <filemover> ah! but in this instance it was an honest mictake
[05:51] <filemover> mistake
[05:51] <Sanne> tux: please read the link I will give you, then enable universe, then try again installing kdevelop. If you get stuck, please ask (and also please watch your language). here's the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[05:51] <filemover> i was mounting a drive and was looking through bash history for the right command
[05:51] <filemover> and slipped
[05:52] <filemover> LOL
[05:52] <Phoenix92x> jhutchins: interesting, so if I took 'oni' off the system I should be able to rename the other disk? or did I misunderstand?
[05:52] <filemover> usb drives are handled a lot differently i think
[05:52] <filemover> than drives in the bio
[05:52] <filemover> bios
[05:53] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: No, I don't think so.
[05:53] <Phoenix92x> filemover: ya so I've noticed, the part that really interests me is why my user has ownership of the usb drive 'oni' but the others aren't owned by my user and even as root I cant change ownership
[05:53] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: The actual file ownerships are recorded numerically, so it's the uid number that is associated with the file.
[05:53] <ssmasud> how do I transfer a file from my home folder to a server which supports ssh???
[05:54] <jhutchins> ssmasud: scp
[05:54] <Phoenix92x> jhutchins: one more time please?
[05:54] <jhutchins> filemover: You want help with that trasfer?
[05:54] <ssmasud> jhutchin.........whats the syntax??
[05:54] <Maksuf> ssmasud, or sftp://(addy)/ in konq.
[05:54] <filemover> no ill be ok jh but i want to work out this problem with apt and the lost files i have
[05:54] <jhutchins> scp <file> [<user>@] <hostname>:<path to save file>
[05:55] <filemover> if there is a way of reisntalling apt
[05:55] <Phoenix92x> jhutchins: what am I missing here?
[05:55] <filemover> reinstalling
[05:55] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: How are you seeing the ownership of the drive?
[05:55] <wolferine> need a hand with starting up Apache (and mysql + php), where does apache, by default, create a dir, where I put my web files into it and can I change that?
[05:56] <Phoenix92x> the ownership of my usb disk 'oni' is owned by user phoenix and group phoenix (my user), ownership of the other two USB disks I have (which I can only connect one at a time using the automounting thing because it tries to assign the same name to both) is user ivman and grop plugdev
[05:57] <jhutchins> wolferine: http://www.menufoods.com/recall/
[05:57] <Phoenix92x> I read some of the man page for ivman and it seems to be a process to handle automounting of usb drives
[05:57] <Sanne> wolferine: (disclaimer: I'm in Dapper) Default is /var/www, you can change that, let me check how I did that.
[05:57] <jhutchins> Whoops.  Bad pastebuffer.
[05:57] <Phoenix92x> but I dont understand why it would treat oni and the others differently
[05:57] <jhutchins> wolferine: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Apache+SSL+PHP+fp-2.html
[05:57] <wolferine> lol thanks jhutchins
[05:57] <wolferine> lol
[05:58] <jhutchins> wolferine: simple answer is /var/www, but you'll want to know more if you're running a public server.
[05:58] <wolferine> yeah, of course
[05:58] <jhutchins> apache.org has good docs too, don't remember if they have a basic howto.
[05:58] <jhutchins> !lamp | wolferine
[05:58] <ubotu> wolferine: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:59] <wolferine> yeah, no basic really
[05:59] <wolferine> well, it seems I can get it running, I just dont understand the file system (tree) enough to do it properly
[05:59] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: I can't say for sure, but I think it's related to what's actually on the drives.
[05:59] <Phoenix92x> hm
[05:59] <slyfox> What do I need to install to make this work?  "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"
[05:59] <Phoenix92x> jhutchins: one thing I can say is oni is ext3 and the other two are ntfs
[06:00] <Phoenix92x> that sound plausible?
[06:00] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: Oh yeah.
[06:00] <filemover> so is there anyway to reinstall apt and most of the files deleted from the var directory short of a complete reinstall
[06:00] <filemover> :)
[06:00] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: ntfs defaults to non-writable on linux systems.
[06:00] <Phoenix92x> ahh..well there's an explanation, could I trouble you a bit more to tell me why? I'm unfamiliar with the current state of "does ntfs fuck up or not" lol
[06:00] <jhutchins> !ntfs | Phoenix92x
[06:00] <ubotu> Phoenix92x: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:00] <leileilol> ntfs-3g is stable for me
[06:00] <wolferine> so could you explain to me where a good place to make my document root, and where would NOT be a good idea to place it?
[06:00] <Phoenix92x> ahhh...so non-writeable would mean I couldnt change the ownerships right?
[06:00] <leileilol> i haven't had a big problem with it
[06:01] <Sanne> wolferine: I have my webroot in /mnt/wrk. I made a file /etc/apache2/conf.d/alias and put in the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11187/
[06:01] <jhutchins> wolferine /var/www/http would be good, so would /home/user/www.
[06:01] <wolferine> right, so I can do it in my user dir
[06:02] <wolferine> now if you dont mind, I need to take us off track for a min
[06:02] <Phoenix92x> thank you very much jhutchins
[06:02] <jhutchins> wolferine: You do need to edit the apache config file to specify where you put stuff.
[06:02] <Phoenix92x> leileilol: the ntfs-3g driver has been stable enough for you to use day to day?
[06:02] <leileilol> yes
[06:02] <leileilol> no prob on my two seagates!
[06:02] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: It's always a good idea to make a backup.\
[06:03] <Phoenix92x> lol definitely is
[06:03] <Phoenix92x> thanks much for the help figuring that out
[06:03] <jhutchins> Myself, I've been using the old ntfs drivers since ~1999, no problems.  Thing is, the first sign of trouble can be a total loss of data.
[06:03] <Phoenix92x> righto...
[06:03] <wolferine> this is my second k/ubuntu install, the first one, I set my /username to another partition on my HD, how would I do this again (and use that /home/username dir) ?
[06:03] <wolferine> + do the nicks have to be the same?
[06:03] <Sanne> wolferine: also have a look at /etc/apache2/README
[06:03] <Phoenix92x> jhutchins: you havnt tried the new ones like leileilol mentioned?
[06:04] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: Nope, no windows stuff left here.
[06:04] <Phoenix92x> jhutchins: heh that would do it
[06:04] <filemover> can anyone help with my apt problem thnx
[06:04] <Phoenix92x> a lot of people who I still want to give files to on these drives are still stuck in windows land
[06:04] <wolferine> yes, I have read the README a times now
[06:04] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: There is a utility to change it, but you can just edit /etc/passwd (sudo).
[06:04] <Phoenix92x> and the ifs driver doesnt work on some of their machines
[06:04] <Phoenix92x> to change what?
[06:05] <Phoenix92x> think I missed something
[06:05] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: You'll see the home directory specified there.
[06:05] <Phoenix92x> ..never asked about the home directory, lol
[06:05] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: Sorry, that was for wolferine.
[06:05] <Phoenix92x> ahh
[06:05] <jhutchins> wolferine: yOu get that?
[06:05] <bobdhicks> Need help with password problem. Installed kubuntu 6.1, When I try administrator button, won't accept logon password. Used "sudo passwd root ...". This allowed me to change time. Can't use it anywhere else. Where could I find the problem?
[06:06] <wolferine> not sure jhutchins , which one?
[06:06] <Phoenix92x> wolferine: you can edit /etc/passwd to change the home directory
[06:06] <wolferine> oh
[06:06] <Phoenix92x> do I have that right jhutchins?
[06:07] <Phoenix92x> I'm learnin something too here, lol
[06:07] <rob-west> well it worked befor
[06:07] <Phoenix92x> rob-west: stupid question, is he behind a NAT/is there port forwarding?
[06:07] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: Yes.
[06:07] <rob-west> before*
[06:07] <rob-west> im trying to do it locally
[06:07] <Phoenix92x> ohhh...
[06:07] <rob-west> not from outside my lan
[06:08] <Phoenix92x> vnc was never really my friend
[06:08] <rob-west> it worked before sooooooo
[06:08] <Phoenix92x> maybe he changed something on his end?
[06:08] <rob-west> nah
[06:08] <Phoenix92x> can you ping the machine?
[06:08] <rob-west> imm remove everything for VNC
[06:09] <jhutchins> wolferine: usermod and userconfig may also be useful.
[06:09] <rob-west> ill*
[06:09] <fernando_> any eclipse user????
[06:09] <rob-west> and im on the machine in trying to vnc into
[06:09] <rob-west> its my comptuer
[06:09] <wolferine> ok, thanks
[06:09] <rob-west> computer*
[06:09] <wolferine> looking at passwrd atm
[06:10] <Phoenix92x> does anyone here know of any media player that can play .evo files? They're the video files on some of the decrypted HD-DVDs floating around
[06:11] <angasule> !kaffeine
[06:11] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2160 kB, installed size 5868 kB
[06:12] <Phoenix92x> um...cant get kaffiene to start actually
[06:12] <Phoenix92x> doesnt even generate any output from terminal
[06:12] <angasule> I can get kaffeine to start, but it hangs if I try to play a video
[06:12] <angasule> it used to work :/
[06:12] <eilker> !pan
[06:12] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.2.91-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[06:12] <angasule> maybe it's because I removed the sound card...
[06:12] <rob-west> i think i know why it wont work
[06:13] <Phoenix92x> why?
[06:13] <VSpike> is there any easy way to check a CD for errors?
[06:13] <wolferine> can I change my /home into something else, then take /myhome and change it into my /home?
[06:14] <Phoenix92x> it used to work for me, now it just never actually starts...not even any output error
[06:14] <wolferine> or is it easier to just leave it as /myhome and set it as the default for my users?
[06:15] <filemover> can anyone help me with reinstalling apt and dpkg is there a way to do it from source Ive lost most of the files in my var directory and cant use apt and dpkg
[06:15] <wolferine> do you have synaptic filemover ?
[06:15] <c0nv1ct> filemover: wow, why are you reinstalling apt?
[06:15] <filemover> synaptic is directly connected to apt lists
[06:16] <wolferine> ah
[06:16] <jhutchins> c0nv1ct: He accidentally deleted most of it.
[06:16] <filemover> so its a no go
[06:16] <filemover> LOL
[06:16] <c0nv1ct> wow
[06:16] <wolferine> reinstal
[06:16] <wolferine> will always fix an issue :)
[06:16] <filemover> thats what im trying to avoid
[06:16] <c0nv1ct> i'm sure you can install from source
[06:16] <filemover> yeah but ive got a lot of work on here
[06:16] <filemover> yeah thats what i thoght
[06:16] <filemover> source is the way to go
[06:17] <wolferine> so jhutchins which scenerio will probably work the best?
[06:17] <jhutchins> wolferine: for what?
[06:17] <filemover> but wheres the bes place to find these sources apt and dpkg are in deb packages on a debian CD i have
[06:17] <wolferine> since I have /home on my linux partition, and I have /myhome on my "free space" parition
[06:18] <filemover> is there a cvs for apt
[06:18] <bentob0x> how do you regenerate the ~/Desktop/.desktop file?
[06:18] <wolferine> oh, should I change the name of /home, then make /myhome into /home
[06:18] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: just move the entire contents of /home to /myhome, then mount your /myhome partition to /home
[06:18] <bentob0x> I think I messed it up
[06:18] <wolferine> how would I do that c0nv1ct ?
[06:20] <wolferine> just mount /myhome /home?
[06:20] <wolferine> something that straight-forward?
[06:21] <magicmike_> I'm trying for the first time to burn an audio cd using K3b. When I try to drag an mp3 to the project I get the error message: Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: Can someone tell me what I need to do to get this to work?
[06:22] <jhutchins> !mp3 | magicmike_
[06:22] <ubotu> magicmike_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <rob-west> nice vnc is working
[06:24] <eilker> !cowbell
[06:24] <ubotu> cowbell: An easy-to-use tag editor for your music files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 548 kB
[06:24] <rob-west> ok now how do i change vnc settings
[06:25] <filemover> i think ill have to do this from the liveCD chroot into the partition and install it like that
[06:25] <rob-west> is there gui or is it all text
[06:25] <jhutchins> rob-west: Dunno.  Check your man pages.
[06:25] <jhutchins> rob-west: There's more than one vnc system.
[06:25] <bigdad1e> can someone help me with my ATI vga?
[06:25] <wolferine> yes, I am not 100% familiat with using mount, whether it be a hard mount, or just a link
[06:26] <jhutchins> !ati | bigdad1e
[06:26] <ubotu> bigdad1e: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:26] <jhutchins> wolferine mount != link.
[06:26] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: sorry i had a phone call, its pretty simple to move your /home over to a new partition
[06:26] <bigdad1e> i already did that it helped me but i can get it to go past the kubuntu loading/booting screen on startup
[06:26] <wolferine> yeah, c0nv1ct copying now
[06:27] <wolferine> just the mount part I am not 100% about
[06:27] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: the only hard part, is making sure you get all the hidden files copied
[06:27] <ubuntu_> hi; it seems my partition where linux is on is corrupted
[06:27] <ubuntu_> how can I fix that?
[06:27] <wolferine> yeah, I got them
[06:27] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Short answer fsck.
[06:27] <ubuntu_> it is partition magic that said that; I4m now on live cd
[06:28] <ubuntu_> well I don4t know more ... partition magic said it
[06:28] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Probably not worth the effort to recover it, just reformat/reinstall.
[06:28] <ubuntu_> sigh
[06:28] <ubuntu_> but I don4t want to reinstall
[06:28] <ubuntu_> is there non other way ?
[06:28] <ubuntu_> or is it just partition magic that don4t know what to do with ext3 ?
[06:29] <wolferine> c0nv1ct, so do i just mount /home /myhome?
[06:29] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Try qparted and/or the live cd, see what they say.  PM should handle it, but you might have a copy that doesn't.
[06:29] <pisedoffcracker1> can someone point me in the direction of a beryl install forum with beryl stable repos
[06:29] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: find out what device /myhome is mounted to, then mount that to /home
[06:30] <jhutchins> !beryl | pisedoffcracker1
[06:30] <ubotu> pisedoffcracker1: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:30] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: then make it stick in fstab
[06:30] <wolferine> hmmm
[06:30] <wolferine> not sure what to look at
[06:30] <jhutchins> pisedoffcracker1: There's a howto on the project page.
[06:30] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: type mount, it will show what device it is
[06:31] <wolferine> it?
[06:31] <bigdad1e> jhutchins: that forum did what it could for me but i cant get past the kubuntu loading on start up
[06:32] <jhutchins> bigdad1e: Do you get a console?
[06:32] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: /myhome
[06:32] <bigdad1e> jhutchins: i get a black blank screen
[06:32] <wolferine> its not listing in mount
[06:33] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: it has to, if /myhome is mounted
[06:33] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: it is a seperate partition correct?
[06:33] <jhutchins> bigdad1e: Press Ctrl-Alt-F1
[06:33] <wolferine> you telling me that it has to, when its not
[06:33] <bigdad1e> jhutchins: i did didnt do anything
[06:33] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: if it is a seperate device and it is mounted, it will be listed in the output of 'mount'
[06:34] <wolferine> c0nv1ct, and I am telling you its not here, again
[06:34] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: how did you mount it in the first place then?
[06:34] <jhutchins> wolferine: if it doesn't show up when you run mount, it's not mounted.
[06:34] <wolferine> ok
[06:34] <jhutchins> wolferine: Where is /myhome actually located?
[06:35] <wolferine> on another partition
[06:35] <wolferine> which has my free space
[06:35] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: its has its own partition?
[06:35] <jhutchins> wolferine; ok, in simple terms you could mount that other partition as home.
[06:35] <c0nv1ct> jhutchins: thats what we are trying to do, but he cant find out what device it is
[06:35] <wolferine> just mount /myhome /home
[06:35] <wolferine> >
[06:35] <wolferine> ?
[06:35] <fernando_> I get an upgrade for adept manager horrible!!! I can't see many packages... ist categorize programs, but I want the all adept back.. any idea how can I get the old one???
[06:35] <jhutchins> wolferine: There are actually ways to mount a directory, but it's not simple.
[06:36] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: no, you need to find out what device the partition is
[06:36] <wolferine> they are all reiserfs
[06:36] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: if it really is a separate partition, it has a device listed in mount
[06:36] <jhutchins> wolferine: fdisk -l will show you available partitions, if that helps.
[06:36] <wolferine> c0nv1ct,  pls stop it
[06:36] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: what?
[06:37] <jhutchins> wolferine: Is /myhome the full path?
[06:37] <payam> #kubuntu-se
[06:37] <jhutchins> wolferine: I've done this, I can help.
[06:37] <c0nv1ct> same, i just did it the other day
[06:38] <wolferine> its on /sda6
[06:38] <jhutchins> wolferine: Is sda6 mounted already?
[06:38] <wolferine> how do I tell?
[06:38] <jhutchins> wolferine: or is /myhome the whole partition?
[06:39] <wolferine> yes, its listed in mount
[06:39] <c0nv1ct> jhutchins: what is the mount point indicated in the 'mount' command for /dev/sda6?
[06:39] <c0nv1ct> i mean wolferine
[06:39] <wolferine> yes /myhome is all of the free space, so its the entire partition
[06:40] <jhutchins> wolferine: ok, you can umount /dev/hda6 and mount /dev/hda6 /home, or you can leave it mounted, rm -r /home, and ln -s /myhome /home.
[06:40] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: is /home completely empty now, after you copied it all to /myhome?
[06:40] <Lynoure> What package takes care of adding entries for new kde programs into the kde menu?
[06:40] <bigdad1e> does anyone know anything about ati vga's? that can help me without sending me to the forum?
[06:40] <jhutchins> wolferine: If you mount a partion to a mountpoint that contains files, those files stay there but are not accessible.
[06:41] <jhutchins> Lynoure: It's up to each individual package to do that.
[06:41] <Lynoure> I'm trying to figure out what to report a bug against on feisty.
[06:41] <Lynoure> jhutchins: that's weird.
[06:41] <wolferine> u meant /sda6, not /hda6
[06:41] <jhutchins> Lynoure: Have you restarted kde?
[06:41] <Lynoure> jhutchins: yes
[06:41] <jhutchins> wolferine: sure.
[06:42] <Lynoure> jhutchins: and none of the three software I installed showed (knode, kdissert, vym)
[06:42] <wolferine> not sure what that last comment means, can you explain?
[06:42] <jhutchins> Lynoure: There is an application discovery program you can get on some systems, but the actual package shold take care of the menu entry.
[06:43] <jhutchins> wolferine: If I have stuff in /home, I can still mount /dev/sda6 /home - /home will then show the contents of hda6 instead of what's actually in it, until I umount it.
[06:44] <Lynoure> jhutchins: I could test with some more programs. Any recommendation?
[06:45] <Lynoure> jhutchins: or then just report a bug against one or all of these.
[06:45] <Loptydopy> Anyone now how to configure the Valito2 pen buttons?
[06:45] <jhutchins> Lynoure: I would say file a report for each of them.  It's possible the menu is locked or something, but not likely.  Have you tried editing it manually?
[06:45] <magicmike_> jhutchins: Thanks, I installed the needed libs.
[06:46] <Lynoure> jhutchins: I can add things manually just fine
[06:46] <Lynoure> jhutchins: they appear right away, no need for kde restart, even
[06:46] <jhutchins> Lynoure: Yes, because the menu editor reloads the menu.  There is a dcop command to do that, but I don't know it.
[06:47] <jhutchins> Lynoure: Feisty?
[06:47] <Lynoure> jhutchins: yes.
[06:47] <jhutchins> Yeah, I would check in ubuntu+1, see if you can get any answers there.
[06:48] <jhutchins> #ubuntu+1
[06:48] <Lynoure> jhutchins: hardly any kde users there apart from Tm_T
[06:48] <bigdad1e> so no1 can help me with my ati vga problem?
[06:48] <wolferine> so I want to make sure /home had no files on it
[06:48] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: if you want to permanently mount sda6 there, yes, or else you are wasting space
[06:49] <Lynoure> jhutchins: I guess I'll just report a bug and see what happens
[06:49] <bigdad1e> this is a f-in waste
[06:50] <youssef> good evening
[06:50] <soulrider> hi
[06:50] <jhutchins> Yeah, running bleeding-edge unsupported hardware is a pain.
[06:51] <jhutchins> Me, I paid $35 for my video card 5 years ago, and it works just fine.
[06:51] <Loptydopy> Anyone now how to configure the Valito2 pen buttons?
[06:53] <Skuller> how do i mount images in kubun?
[06:53] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: ISO images?
[06:54] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: yes....ISO, bin/cue, mdf/mds, ccd, etc
[06:54] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: mount can support ISOs by default, but other formats may require fuseiso
[06:54] <vadim> hi to everybody!
[06:54] <Loptydopy> Anyone now how to configure the Valito2 pen buttons?
[06:54] <Skuller> !fuseiso
[06:54] <ubotu> fuseiso: FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060107-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:55] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: so i should just install fuseiso and am all good to go?
[06:55] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: and learn how to use it :)
[06:55] <wolferine> thanks you two, I think I figured it out
[06:55] <mervteck> hey guys whats the proper command to mount cdrom0 ?
[06:55] <wolferine> now hopefully I can use this advise to setup my FTP
[06:55] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: hehe...yea i'll try that too....thanks for the help
[06:55] <wolferine> and apache...
[06:56] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: np, i was able to use fuseiso to get a mdf/mds mounted, only took a few mins of learning the syntax
[06:56] <Loptydopy> Anyone now how to configure the Valito2 pen buttons?
[06:56] <vadim> is there any posibility to see which processes have oppened handles to a file?
[06:57] <c0nv1ct> Loptydopy: i'm not familiar with that device, have you searched the forums?
[06:57] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: where do i learn the commands for it?...the syntaxes n stuff
[06:58] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: its dosent have a GUI i presume
[06:58] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: once you install it, type 'man fuseiso'
[06:58] <Skuller> it*
[06:58] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: not that i know of... you may also need to install fusemount, if it doesnt install it automatically as a dependancy
[06:59] <lupul> can anyone help me please? what do i have to do to let valknut through guarddog? please !!!
[06:59] <Skuller> cthe software installed fuseiso and libfuse2...not fusemount....i dint even see it in the list
[06:59] <vadim> and another quetion... how to set different interface languages for different users?
[06:59] <lupul> i can connect at the hub but i can't download from users
[06:59] <c0nv1ct> lupul: what ports does valknut need to be opened?
[07:00] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: yes..theres not 'fusemount' in the list of packages
[07:00] <Loptydopy> c0nv1ct: Yes, I have search the forum. It's a Wacom Valito 2. The buttons on the pen work,  but i would like to configure the buttons like a mouse. Left and right click. If you know what im talking about.
[07:00] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: i believe it is required, but you can try without it and see if it asks for it
[07:01] <c0nv1ct> Loptydopy: you may want to look into xmodmap or xbindkeys for that to work
[07:01] <lupul> 9174 for him and 4012 for the local hub
[07:01] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: ok..i have it installed...and i dont understand the command i need to use to mount a file
[07:01] <lupul> i already made new protocols winth these ports but still nothing
[07:02] <lupul> *with
[07:02] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: can u give me the command to mount an img in /home/extracted named A.bin
[07:02] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: i believe its 'fuseiso image.iso /mnt/whereever'
[07:03] <c0nv1ct> lupul: adding those ports to guarddog should work then
[07:03] <pafnutiy> help. i'm novice in ubuntu. i just have installed wine. where i can launch it?
[07:04] <lupul> yes but it doesn't
[07:04] <Tm_T> pafnutiy: you don't launch wine alone really
[07:04] <c0nv1ct> pafnutiy: wine isnt launched, it is used to launch windows executables
[07:04] <lupul> i can chat with all the users, i can connect to the hub but i can't get their file list or any data from them
[07:04] <c0nv1ct> lupul: guarddog gave me problems too, i stopped using it
[07:04] <lupul> so what shoul i use?
[07:05] <c0nv1ct> lupul: are you behind a router?
[07:05] <lupul> *should
[07:05] <lupul> no
[07:05] <c0nv1ct> lupul: i use arno-iptables-firewall, theres no GUI, you have to edit a conf to open ports
[07:05] <lupul> i tried that but...
[07:05] <lupul> a little too hard for me
[07:05] <lupul> still a newbee
[07:06] <c0nv1ct> lupul: do you really need a firewall?
[07:06] <pafnutiy> thanks
[07:06] <lupul> yes
[07:06] <hatta> everyone needs a firewall
[07:06] <lupul> i recently been kicked out from the hub because someone was using my computer to spam
[07:06] <c0nv1ct> not necessarily
[07:07] <wolferine> now that I did all these mount changes
[07:07] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory
[07:07] <jhutchins> Best practice is to have a firewall on a seperate device.
[07:07] <Skuller> :(
[07:07] <wolferine> do I need to restart/log my system, to take affect?
[07:07] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: yep, install fusermount :)
[07:07] <jhutchins> Skuller: What created the image?
[07:07] <hatta> ok, everyone who has an internet connection needs a firewall
[07:07] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: did you add the mount to fstab to make it permanent?
[07:07] <wolferine> i cannot seem to browse my f/s using a gui
[07:07] <Skuller> jhutchins: its powerproducer 4's image file in bin/cue format
[07:08] <c0nv1ct> hatta: still, not necessarily
[07:08] <jhutchins> Skuller: A DVD or something?
[07:08] <wolferine> c0nv1ct, no, I hadnt yet
[07:08] <Skuller> jhutchins: a cd approx 350 mb
[07:08] <hatta> ok, how does someone with an internet connection get by without a firewall and not getting owned?
[07:08] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: add the mount to fstab, or else it will not be there after you reboot
[07:08] <wolferine> its already in there, I beleive
[07:08] <hatta> I assume you're runing X so there's one big attack vector right there
[07:08] <wolferine> which mount?
[07:09] <jhutchins> Skuller: It's pretty easy to mount an .iso image, but I'm not sure about bin/cue.
[07:09] <jhutchins> !loopback
[07:09] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:09] <c0nv1ct> hatta: how so? xorg doesnt open any ports
[07:09] <Skuller> jhutchins: thanks
[07:10] <jhutchins> Skuller: Looks like bin2iso would be useful in your case.
[07:10] <hatta> hm it did last I checked
[07:10] <wolferine> just /dev/sda6 /home ?
[07:10] <wolferine> and thats it?
[07:10] <Skuller> jhutchins: yea...i thought so too....but i just wanted to see if fuseiso would aloow me a bin/cue
[07:10] <c0nv1ct> hatta: using nmap, there is only 1 open port on my machine, and that is ssh
[07:11] <c0nv1ct> hatta: xfree used to open ports AFAIK, but not xorg
[07:13] <hatta> c0nv1ct, ah I see
[07:13] <hatta> yeah I haven't checked in a while heh
[07:15] <wolferine> jhutchins, is that it, just /dev/sda6 /home ? (in fstab)
[07:16] <jhutchins> wolferine: Have a look at the other entries there, make it similar.
[07:16] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: no i couldnt get fuseiso to work...something messed up..but now i need help in unmounting a partition that is 0mb according to glass monitor
[07:17] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: you dont have to use the UUID, you can put /dev/sda6 there, or use 'blkid' to find out the UUID of sda6
[07:17] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: just use umount
[07:17] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: i did mkdir /ex and then fuseiso A.bin /ex
[07:17] <caris_mere> When my computer checked my drives on start up, it said my swap drive activation failed.
[07:17] <wolferine> dump and pass?
[07:17] <wolferine> what do those need to be?
[07:18] <c0nv1ct> 0 2 is what mine is set to
[07:18] <jhutchins> 0 0 on mine.
[07:18] <jhutchins> / is 0 1
[07:18] <wolferine> i have many variations in my fstab as well
[07:19] <caris_mere> Why would my swap drive fail to be activated?
[07:19] <wolferine> what do they mean, so I can edit them proerly?
[07:19] <jhutchins> wolferine: man fstab
[07:19] <Skuller> caris_mere: i have no idea how to use umount
[07:19] <jhutchins> caris_mere: They can become corrupt, especially if you use suspend.
[07:20] <c0nv1ct> wolferine: the 'pass' number is for fsck to set the order it is checked
[07:20] <caris_mere> jhutchins: what do I do about that?
[07:20] <meme-1> Hey folks.... can someone kindly tell what what the Linux equivalent to dir /s /on >text.txt would be (in DOS that means list the contents of a folder and all sub-folders and sort by name redirect to a text file)?
[07:21] <jhutchins> caris_mere: You should see what actual error you get with the sudo swapon -a command, but if it's corrupt you can reformat it.
[07:22] <caris_mere> jhutchins: it says swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/e7280f95-1de7-40f7-888b-89bc027b61e6: Invalid argument
[07:22] <jhutchins> meme-1: ls defaults to sort-by-name, or you can pipe it through sort if you don't want it by directory; -R will give you recursive (subdirectories); >  will redirect it to a file just like dos.
[07:22] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: just type umount /ex
[07:22] <jhutchins> meme-1:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[07:23] <jhutchins> c0nv1ct: sudo
[07:23] <meme-1> jhutchins: Thanks a bunch!
[07:23] <meme-1> jhutchins: Great reference thanks again!
[07:23] <jhutchins> caris_mere: Do fdisk -l, see if there's a swap partition listed.
[07:23] <jhutchins> meme-1: Always happy to help a fellow DOS hacker.
[07:24] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: ahh...nice...thanks
[07:24] <caris_mere> jhutchins: I don't see one
[07:24] <Skuller> !loopback | skuller
[07:25] <jhutchins> caris_mere: That _would_ explain it.  Do you see space where one might have been?
[07:25] <wolferines> how do I change an owner of a dir from the cli ?
[07:25] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: what does '/ex is not in the fstab' mean?
[07:26] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: what are you typing when you get that?
[07:26] <jhutchins> wolferines: chown <user>:<group> <file>
[07:26] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: umount /ex.......when i did sudo then it removed it
[07:26] <jhutchins> Skuller: fstab is a file that lists defaults for mounting partitions.
[07:26] <Ashex|Work> good day everyone :)
[07:26] <caris_mere> jhutchins: yes, it is after my / partition
[07:27] <Skuller> ohh
[07:27] <wolferines> ok, so I have an ls -la listing of my /home
[07:27] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: yeah, u dont need to worry about it then
[07:27] <wolferines> in it I have my /oldusername /newusername in it
[07:27] <jhutchins> caris_mere: What is the ID or "System" for it?
[07:27] <livingdaylight> i downloaded a torrent and instead of avi it is ogm. Anyone know .ogm format?
[07:27] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: nice...i ave to fet ready fer school..when im bak then i'll get back to my bin/cue thing
[07:27] <Skuller> thanks
[07:28] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: hehe k
[07:28] <wolferines> the /oldusername has old old listed in the ls -la
[07:28] <Skuller> get=get..lol
[07:28] <jhutchins> !loopback | livingdaylight
[07:28] <ubotu> livingdaylight: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:28] <LjL> livingdaylight: it's Ogg
[07:28] <wolferines> now that  I have chown, I have newuser root listed in the ls -la
[07:28] <Ash-Fox> If I wanted to get the RGB values that KDE is currently using for theming, what would be the best way todo that for a bash script?
[07:28] <wolferines> do they both have to be newuser, for me to get back into Ggome?
[07:28] <LjL> livingdaylight: i think you should be able to open it with any standard ubuntu player, they all support ogg theora i suppose
[07:29] <caris_mere> jhutchins: I'm not sure what you mean.
[07:29] <caris_mere> jhutchins: I am using qtparted to check this stuff
[07:29] <jhutchins> caris_mere: Is there a partition defined as Linux Swap (82)?
[07:30] <caris_mere> jhutchins: I guess not. I don't know. qtparted says that it doesn't know what type of partition it is
[07:31] <wolferines> in an ls -la, is it maybe owner and creator as the headers to tables?
[07:31] <meme-1> jhutchins: Again, thank you so much. The only problem is that ls doesn't list the file size details (like DOS dir does)... I tried ls -r -l >text but the resulting text file still doesn't show the file sizes. What is wrong?
[07:31] <wolferines> since I did create the dir with root
[07:32] <wolferines> but then chown to user
[07:32] <jhutchins> meme-1: ls -Rl
[07:32] <meme-1> DOH! lol
[07:32] <wolferines> ok, this might be 100% easier if I just reformat I think
[07:32] <meme-1> Thanks
[07:32] <wolferines> im not able to get into my dm again
[07:34] <wolferines> now I have a log file, which is telling me that /dev/sda6: No such file or directory
[07:35] <dergringo> hey guys is there a driver that can be used for HP Color LaserJet 2600n?
[07:35] <wolferines> what a pain in the a$$
[07:36] <livingdaylight> LjL: yes, it si playing no problem. BUt i want to burn it to dvd. I had DeVeDe to convert .avi to iso but this ogm format threw me
[07:38] <LjL> livingdaylight: hm, the devede description doesn't mention Ogg Theora, but then it says it supports anything that mplayer supports... i assume mplayer would support Ogg
[07:39] <livingdaylight> LjL: interesting, suggests that in theory it should convert ogm to iso aswell then... only trying out will tell ^^
[07:39] <wolferines> well, this all really messed up my system
[07:39] <wolferines> thanks for the help :/
[07:40] <meme-1> jhutchins: Worked like a charm! Thanks!  BTW... this solution is certainly good enough... but I am curious if there is another alternative to ls -Rl >xxx because it sure isn't as "clean" as DIR /s /on >xxx.  For instance, I don't need to see permisions and ownership (this info is obvious to me and just takes up space).
[07:41] <jhutchins> meme-1: The documentation for the bash shell might give you more detail on it.
[07:42] <wolferines> having a problem with which is exactly /home
[07:43] <Netboy541> so i have a SAA7134 tv card i haven't gotten to work for about 2 weeks now
[07:43] <Netboy541> anyone have ANY ideas before I just give up?
[07:44] <wolferines> 2 weeks?
[07:44] <jhutchins> Netboy541: Find anything on google?
[07:44] <wolferines> i would have just given it like 2 days
[07:44] <wolferines> lol
[07:44] <jazzK> hi all
[07:44] <Netboy541> yeah my post is the first one on google if that says anything
[07:44] <jazzK> my problem, when i lock the session and try to unlock, my password fail
[07:44] <wolferines> well, here goes the third install
[07:44] <Netboy541> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=386946
[07:45] <Netboy541> that's the story.... so if anyone has any ideas, i'd sure appreciate it.
[07:45] <swanfl> just thought I'd let you guys know I'm going back to Gentoo
[07:45] <jhutchins> Netboy541: I would guess that it's not supported.
[07:46] <Netboy541> says it is
[07:46] <Netboy541> in the kernel
[07:46] <Netboy541> it detects it, and everything....
[07:46] <Netboy541> now you see why i'm so aggravated.. lol
[07:47] <sozialarsch> hi
[07:47] <sozialarsch> i've got a little problem or question...
[07:48] <sozialarsch> i'm now using the radeon driver for my 9700Mobility radeon
[07:48] <livingdaylight> LjL: ogg rocks
[07:48] <sozialarsch> and glxgears runs normal..
[07:48] <sozialarsch> but when i install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:48] <sozialarsch> and still don't use fglrx
[07:48] <livingdaylight> DeVeDe Rocks!
[07:48] <sozialarsch> glxgears runs slowly...
[07:50] <verms> Hello!
[07:50] <verms> Un noob de plus sur Kubuntu: moi!
[07:50] <livingdaylight> !fr
[07:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:51] <verms> oups orry
[07:51] <livingdaylight> verms: pas'd probleme
[07:51] <verms> :)
[07:51] <tuxligo> hi!
[08:03] <frojnd> hello!
[08:03] <frojnd> how can I get rid of kernesl in my GRUB
[08:03] <frojnd> the problem is I have kubuntu and xubuntu
[08:04] <frojnd> and I have installed kubuntu and xubuntu twice time
[08:04] <Ashex|Work> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:04] <frojnd> so I have 4 choices in GRUB
[08:04] <Ashex|Work> you can remove entries from there
[08:04] <Ashex|Work> however be careful what you remove, it's not difficult to kill grub by snarfing menu.lst
[08:05] <blue|palm> can anyone tell me why amarok could possibly play mp3's with much noise (if i use totem for example it plays fine)
[08:05] <Ashex|Work> noise?
[08:05] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: can I pastebin and u tell me what is what :D
[08:05] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: couse I have too many choices :P
[08:05] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, sure
[08:05] <frojnd> just a sec
[08:07] <pafnutiy> hi! can anyone tell me whats the best program for windows application launching on ubuntu? wine?
[08:07] <Skuller> can anyone give me the command to edit my xorg.conf?
[08:07] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11207/
[08:07] <frojnd> don't get scared :D
[08:08] <Skuller> pafnutiy: yes wine is quite good
[08:08] <Skuller> then theres cedega as well
[08:08] <Skuller> !wine | pafnutiy
[08:08] <ubotu> pafnutiy: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:08] <Skuller> !cedega | pafnutiy
[08:08] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: I only need kernel 2.6.17-11 kubuntu and 2.6.17-10 - xubuntu
[08:08] <ubotu> pafnutiy: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:08] <AudiAt3r> Thx 4 beautiful OS :)
[08:08] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, I'll clean it up for you
[08:09] <Ashex|Work> that's a very messy menu
[08:09] <frojnd> yep
[08:09] <frojnd> :>
[08:09] <Skuller> can someone please tell me the path to my xorg.conf file?
[08:09] <frojnd> Skuller: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:09] <Skuller> frojnd: thnx
[08:09] <frojnd> Skuller: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:10] <pafnutiy> thanx
[08:11] <soulrider> are there any c++ programmers here ?
[08:12] <frojnd> soulrider: /j #c++
[08:12] <blue|palm> I can program in c++
[08:12] <blue|palm> soulrider: me
[08:12] <soulrider> i just wanna ask a simple question
[08:12] <blue|palm> soulrider: go ahead and ask
[08:12] <soulrider> ok, how different is the code you write on windows than the one in windows
[08:12] <soulrider> ?
[08:12] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11208/
[08:12] <blue|palm> soulrider: wha?
[08:12] <Ashex|Work> I cleaned it up, edited the titles to state the actual distro
[08:12] <soulrider> because im starting to learn C++ (i know java) and i was sent some code. It wont comple with gcc though
[08:12] <blue|palm> soulrider: huh?
[08:13] <Ashex|Work> and added a couple comments in to point out which is kubuntu and which is ubuntu
[08:13] <soulrider> second windows y linux, sorry :P
[08:13] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, make a backup of menu.lst first
[08:13] <Ashex|Work> sudo cp menu.lst menu.lst.bak
[08:13] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: tnx, I will
[08:13] <blue|palm> soulrider: there is something called ANSI C++ which is cross-platform
[08:13] <blue|palm> soulrider: it is basiccally a standard
[08:13] <soulrider> i see
[08:14] <blue|palm> soulrider: its the one where you have a main function etc and your #includes at the top
[08:14] <blue|palm> soulrider: if it compiles on linux it should compile on windows
[08:14] <soulrider> at college were gonna program using visual .net2005
[08:14] <blue|palm> soulrider: thats really easy :)
[08:14] <soulrider> but since i use linux i wanna know how i will have to write stuff for it to compile on windows also
[08:14] <blue|palm> soulrider: ooh not so easy
[08:14] <blue|palm> soulrider: Lots of things to consider...
[08:14] <soulrider> =/
[08:15] <soulrider> i will be writing console apps
[08:15] <blue|palm> soulrider: ah thats not so bad then
[08:15] <soulrider> ok
[08:15] <blue|palm> soulrider: as long as you stick to using STL and ANSI standrads it should compile on unix systems, and windows
[08:15] <soulrider> once we start to write actual code im gonna ask my teacher what the deal is witht he compilers
[08:15] <wolferines> doesnt look like my mouse driver is loaded properly
[08:15] <blue|palm> soulrider: call g++ on your file
[08:15] <wolferines> what can I do to troubleshoot it?
[08:16] <blue|palm> soulrider: instead of gcc
[08:16] <soulrider> k, hold on
[08:16] <soulrider> let me see if i didnt delete the stuff :P
[08:16] <blue|palm> soulrider: hehe
[08:16] <blue|palm> can anyone tell me why amarok could possibly play mp3's with much noise (if i use totem for example it plays fine)
[08:17] <soulrider> blue|palm: wont work, it gives me an error that the main method must return an int
[08:17] <blue|palm> soulrider: so make it return an int :)
[08:17] <blue|palm> soulrider: return 0;
[08:17] <soulrider> blue|palm: i tried that today, but it didnt work
[08:18] <soulrider> the main() method returns void though
[08:18] <blue|palm> soulrider: it must be the last line of your function (to keep things simple)
[08:18] <wolferines> my mouse works fine at the login screen, but once it heads into the wm, it slows right down
[08:18] <blue|palm> soulrider: ah.... int main(void){code}
[08:18] <blue|palm> soulrider: thats what it should be
[08:18] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: don't know if I paste it all before :S http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11208/
[08:18] <soulrider> let me see if it compiles that way
[08:18] <blue|palm> soulrider: on unix systems you have to return an int from your function
[08:19] <soulrider> i see
[08:19] <blue|palm> soulrider: or on linux you have to at least :)
[08:19] <blue|palm> soulrider: this applies to the main function
[08:19] <soulrider> uhm im still getting some errors
[08:19] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: me idiot, this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11210/
[08:19] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, ah, confused me for a second :p
[08:19] <soulrider> and theres no binary
[08:20] <tuxligo> KDE: Enjoy The Experence!
[08:20] <soulrider> blue|palm: theres actually a crapload of errors :P
[08:20] <blue|palm> soulrider: so KISS : (Keep it simple stupid) start with something really simple
[08:20] <wolferines> this is right after a new install btw
[08:20] <blue|palm> soulrider: do this #include <iostream>
[08:20] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, what was that first one?
[08:20] <soulrider> blue|palm: its the tutorial i got from the site :P
[08:20] <blue|palm> soulrider: int main(void){
[08:21] <blue|palm> soulrider: int sum = 1+2;
[08:21] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11207/
[08:21] <blue|palm> soulrider: std::cout << sum << std::endl;
[08:21] <blue|palm> soulrider: return 0;
[08:21] <blue|palm> soulrider: }
[08:21] <wolferines> help with my mouse, anyone?
[08:21] <tuxligo> Chilean, let's go to UBUNTU CHILE #ubuntu-cl
[08:22] <tuxligo> Chilenos, vamos a Ubuntu Chile #ubuntu-cl
[08:22] <blue|palm> soulrider: pick up a good book :)
[08:23] <soulrider> blue|palm: wont work or something =/
[08:23] <blue|palm> soulrider: my advice
[08:23] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11211/
[08:23] <soulrider> thinking in c++? :P
[08:23] <blue|palm> soulrider: hehe, i know of it, but i never used it
[08:23] <blue|palm> soulrider: I picked up a SAMS teach yourself C++ book, but in some countries those can be really expensive
[08:23] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: tnx
[08:23] <frojnd> lemme reboot
[08:23] <blue|palm> soulrider: like in mine
[08:23] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, no problem :)
[08:24] <soulrider> blue|palm: probably here :P
[08:24] <mjungo> Hi folks Im struggeling to share my printer from a kubuntu pc to another kubuntu pc (both 6.10) I use the printer system settings tool. All goes ok until it asks for a password and non work. All docs point to ubuntu and that uses different tools. Can anyone help please.
[08:24] <soulrider> wolferines: i got no idea about your mouse problem, you might wanna search the forums
[08:24] <blue|palm> soulrider: look for a tutorial on basic linux programming
[08:24] <wolferines> sure
[08:25] <wolferines> weird that it happens right after a new install
[08:25] <mrp193> I just installed i386 and i am trying to download nvidia graphics card driver... is Linux IA32 the correct driver to DL?
[08:25] <soulrider> blue|palm: i only had one class, so its not like im not gonna learn it eventually :P
[08:25] <soulrider> mrp193: dont get them fromt he nvidia site
[08:25] <mrp193> no?
[08:25] <soulrider> no
[08:25] <mrp193> what should i do?
[08:25] <soulrider> is this the first time you sue ubuntu?
[08:25] <mrp193> yes
[08:25] <mrp193> im a noob
[08:25] <soulrider> ah, i thought so
[08:25] <mrp193> first time ive ever used linux period.
[08:25] <soulrider> no problem man, were here to help
[08:25] <mrp193> ty
[08:25] <blue|palm> soulrider: i just compiled what i gave to u
[08:26] <blue|palm> soulrider: it works fine
[08:26] <bobdhicks> Newbe needs help. I'm trying to install a program. I click in KBE and i guess Adapt comes up. Can't get any programs into it. How do I do it?
[08:26] <soulrider> theres a thing we have here thats called repositories, windows doesnt have it, ebcause it sucks :P
[08:26] <blue|palm> soulrider: using g++ i get the standard a.out file :)
[08:26] <mrp193> okay repositories.... what are they and how do i use them?
[08:26] <soulrider> mrp193: basically, theres TONS of software in servers that you can download and install with a songle command
[08:26] <mrp193> oh yeah?
[08:26] <soulrider> yup
[08:26] <soulrider> do this
[08:26] <soulrider> press alt + space and type
[08:26] <soulrider> adept
[08:27] <mrp193> is something supposed to come up when i press alt + space?
[08:27] <soulrider> uhm, maybe it doesnt
[08:27] <soulrider> ok, dont worry, hold on a sec
[08:27] <mrp193> should i open terminal?
[08:27] <soulrider> no, do this
[08:27] <mrp193> k
[08:27] <soulrider> k menu > system > adept manager
[08:28] <mrp193> i cant find adept manager
[08:28] <soulrider> uhm, youre using Ubuntu or Kubuntu ?
[08:28] <mrp193> ubuntu
[08:28] <soulrider> ahh
[08:28] <wolferines> synaptic
[08:28] <soulrider> look for synaptiv
[08:29] <soulrider> synaptic*
[08:29] <wolferines> maybe its not added in your menu
[08:29] <blue|palm> soulrider: do you get an a.out file when you call gcc filename.cpp?
[08:29] <mrp193> wait, before i do anything should i use kubuntu?
[08:29] <wolferines> edit your menu listing to display
[08:29] <mrp193> or is ubuntu okay?
[08:29] <soulrider> blue|palm: i got a ile called s.out
[08:29] <blue|palm> soulrider: thats good
[08:29] <soulrider> ubuntu is ok
[08:29] <soulrider> the difference in kubuntu
[08:29] <blue|palm> soulrider: call ./s.ou
[08:29] <wolferines> mrp193: you mean use Gnome (ubuntu) or KDE (kubuntu)
[08:29] <blue|palm> soulrider: call ./s.out
[08:29] <soulrider> is the graphical enviroment
[08:29] <mjungo> May I politely ask for som help with getting my printe shared in KDE/kubuntu 6.10, please
[08:30] <mrp193> synaptic?
[08:30] <soulrider> yup, synaptic
[08:30] <wolferines> mjungo: u using Samba?
[08:30] <mrp193> im in it
[08:30] <blue|palm> soulrider: its working then if you get a .out file
[08:30] <soulrider> blue|palm: that works! :P
[08:30] <soulrider> awesome mrp193
[08:30] <blue|palm> soulrider: thats your .exe in windows terminology
[08:30] <blue|palm> soulrider: your executable :)
[08:30] <soulrider> with synaptic you can search and download stuff fromt he repositories!
[08:30] <wolferines> new install #4 :/
[08:30] <soulrider> yeah blue|palm
[08:31] <blue|palm> soulrider: happy C++ coding and welcome to the best power-language on the planet :)
[08:31] <soulrider> mrp193: basically wheny ou wanna install something, you use synaptic
[08:31] <soulrider> thanks blue|palm :)
[08:31] <blue|palm> soulrider: np :)
[08:31] <soulrider> mrp193: want me to guide you via PM? i gety confused on this channel :P
[08:31] <mrp193> sure
[08:32] <wolferines> what OEM mode in a new install?
[08:33] <blue|palm> Can anyone tell me that their kde performance in kubuntu is shocking? Like mine? The rendering and loading times of applications like konqueror is pathetic, and navigating in konqueror is soooo much slower than in nautilus, yet I am addicted to KDE and cannot use gnome :(
[08:34] <wolferines> blue: when did it start happening?
[08:34] <blue|palm> Is there anything i can do about it?
[08:34] <blue|palm> wolferines: hmm... id say after I got my ati drivers working properly
[08:34] <blue|palm> wolferines: I think it could be that...
[08:34] <al> can anyoune help me with jack and alsa configuration?
[08:34] <al> erhm, please?
[08:34] <wolferines> can you check your fps wtih glxgears?
[08:35] <blue|palm> wolferines: ok will do
[08:35] <blue|palm> wolferines: I have direct rendering etc. because I can run an xgl session with beryl (which i dont use)
[08:36] <wolferines> did u ever have beryl running?
[08:37] <blue|palm> wolferines: yes, I occasionally do go into it
[08:37] <blue|palm> wolferines: Its a seperate session to the one i usually run
[08:37] <blue|palm> 7723 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1544.600 FPS
[08:37] <mjungo> please can soneone help me with installing a shared printer on kubuntu 10.6, please
[08:37] <wolferines> with an ATI card
[08:37] <blue|palm> which shows that my card is running
[08:37] <blue|palm> fine
[08:37] <wolferines> well, those are high fps
[08:37] <blue|palm> wolferines: yes
[08:37] <blue|palm> wolferines: exactly
[08:37] <wolferines> so the 3D is working
[08:37] <blue|palm> wolferines: yes
[08:37] <wolferines> well, its something with the 2D or your ps
[08:38] <wolferines> check your processes using ps -A
[08:38] <blue|palm> wolferines: Which is why I cant understand the poor kde performance (compared to gnome on the same machine) and of course I hate gnome....
[08:38] <wolferines> then if thats not it, look for 2D issues with your card
[08:38] <wolferines> u use beryl in KDE?
[08:38] <blue|palm> wolferines: yes
[08:38] <blue|palm> wolferines: Is that a problem?
[08:38] <wolferines> sorry, I am just amazed
[08:38] <wolferines> lol
[08:38] <blue|palm> wolferines: lol
[08:39] <blue|palm> wolferines: it wasnt that bad
[08:39] <mjungo> what is the default username and password on a newly installed Kubuntu cups system? please I am getting nuts here.
[08:39] <blue|palm> wolferines: it was quite easy
[08:39] <wolferines> well, I bought a new nvidia, just because it took me more than 2 days to setup
[08:39] <mrp193> what is artsmessage?
[08:39] <blue|palm> wolferines: I spoke to the beryl developers (I am a developer :) ) to find out how beryl works and worked from there, I love programs like beryl
[08:39] <wolferines> and now I am on my forth new install or the OS
[08:39] <blue|palm> wolferines: wow, im gonna reinstall only for feisty
[08:40] <wolferines> did you compile the source then blue?
[08:40] <wolferines> s/the/from/
[08:40] <blue|palm> wolferines: I have both beryl-svn binaries and beryl-svn compiled on my OS on different sessions
[08:41] <wolferines> well, you obviously know much more than me
[08:41] <blue|palm> wolferines: performance is the same, which i why I love ubuntu/kubuntu so much :)
[08:41] <blue|palm> wolferines: lol
[08:41] <wolferines> hope you find a resolution
[08:41] <blue|palm> wolferines: only from a developers perspective... im still a linux noob :) (I started using it about 20 days ago)
[08:41] <wolferines> what languages?
[08:42] <blue|palm> wolferines: C++, Java, Python, BASIC
[08:42] <wolferines> hehe
[08:42] <mjungo> hello please can someone help me with a printing problem in kubuntu
[08:42] <wolferines> basic eh?
[08:42] <mrp193> i am back
[08:42] <blue|palm> wolferines: also C and C++.net
[08:42] <blue|palm> wolferines: yeah BASIC was what I learned first
[08:42] <wolferines> anything fun though?
[08:42] <blue|palm> wolferines: yeah... I make games in my spare time :)
[08:42] <wolferines> ah, nice
[08:42] <blue|palm> wolferines: not that I get much free time these days
[08:42] <wolferines> tried to program an atari once
[08:42] <wolferines> wasnt too successful
[08:42] <blue|palm> wolferines: hehe
[08:43] <mrp193> okay
[08:43] <wolferines> its hard outputting the result to a screen, never realized it was so difficult
[08:43] <blue|palm> wolferines: if there is anything I want to add to the linux community... it would be to get some decent recent and modern 3D games exclusive to linux
[08:43] <wolferines> yeah
[08:43] <wolferines> but wine is out there
[08:43] <blue|palm> wolferines: true
[08:43] <blue|palm> wolferines: But we still suffer performance cuts
[08:44] <blue|palm> wolferines: about 10%
[08:44] <wolferines> right
[08:44] <mjungo> Im still stuggeling for my second computer to print to the printer on my first one both have kubuntu please, please help!
[08:44] <wolferines> well, ill let you get back to your issue
[08:44] <blue|palm> wolferines: imagine making a game free for download as a linux binary and selling it for windows and mac :)
[08:44] <wolferines> hehe
[08:44] <blue|palm> wolferines: That would be evil :)
[08:44] <blue|palm> wolferines: but productive
[08:44] <wolferines> or is it genius?
[08:44] <wolferines> lol
[08:44] <blue|palm> wolferines: lol
[08:45] <blue|palm> wolferines: how many processes do you have running?
[08:45] <wolferines> one, the installer :)
[08:45] <blue|palm> wolferines: lol
[08:45] <wrhowc> elow
[08:45] <blue|palm> wolferines: your reinstalling
[08:45] <soulrider> !easysource
[08:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:45] <wolferines> yeah
[08:46] <wolferines> having a few issues here
[08:46] <blue|palm> wolferines: well im going to go watch tv on my mythtv powered media centre :) cya
[08:46] <mjungo> GUS: someone point me to a Kubuntu docu about sharing a printer in KDE PLEASE.
[08:46] <wolferines> later
[08:46] <m_tadeu> hi there
[08:46] <wolferines> mjungo: u using Samba?
[08:46] <m_tadeu> is there a cervisia like application for svn?
[08:47] <wrhowc> why doesn't my kubuntu auto connects to internet
[08:47] <wolferines> wrhowc new install?
[08:47] <wrhowc> yes
[08:47] <wolferines> did you setup your internet during the install?
[08:47] <wrhowc> bit first time i installed it
[08:47] <wrhowc> it worked
[08:48] <mjungo> wolferines I use a standard Kubutu install.10.6. The printing system is cups. The rpinter is runing ok on the first pc. Samba is installed but i dont know if it is running.
[08:48] <wrhowc> but now it doesn't
[08:48] <soulrider> !paste
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[08:48] <wolferines> mjungo: well,do you have any other systems on your LAN, and you can view them?
[08:48] <Narada> anyone able to tell how to compile subversion on ubuntu i.e. what the with-apxs= and --with-apache= values will be?
[08:48] <wrhowc> windows? yes
[08:49] <wrhowc> but i can configure eth0
[08:49] <wrhowc> if i connect it manualy works fine
[08:49] <wrhowc> i mean to internet
[08:49] <Ashex|Work> Narada, why don't you just use apt to install subversion?
[08:49] <mjungo> wolferines: Im a bit a newbie. So please bare with me. There are two systems on the LAN. once called server one called client1
[08:49] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: do you have the connect at startup flag on?
[08:50] <Narada> Ashex|Work: versions are ancient
[08:50] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: while u gave me those instructions.. the name are switched..
[08:50] <mjungo> wolferines: the server hass the USB printer installed and running fine.
[08:50] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, my mistake
[08:50] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: and do I have to edit menu.lst on both kernels?
[08:50] <mjungo> wolferines: now the clinet should use the same printer.
[08:50] <wolferines> mjungo: u might want to just answer my questions
[08:50] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, you can just rename with nano
[08:50] <wrhowc> flag on? im new so
[08:50] <wolferines> might make it alot easier
[08:50] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, only the one your booting off of
[08:51] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: how do u specify that'
[08:51] <mjungo> wolferines: what do you mean by other system and what by vieing them?
[08:51] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: on the system settings go to the network settings
[08:51] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, bios boot priority
[08:51] <mjungo> wolferines: Viewing with what?
[08:51] <wolferines> sorry, I dont think I can help you mjungo
[08:51] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: enter to  administrator mode
[08:51] <c0nv1ct> mjungo: what OS is the server with the printer using?
[08:52] <wrhowc> where
[08:52] <mjungo> Kubuntu 10.6
[08:52] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: root            (hd0,0)
[08:52] <frojnd> tjat means that this kernel's menu is in charge?
[08:52] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: double click on the eth0
[08:52] <c0nv1ct> mjungo: and you are connecting using a linux client as well?
[08:52] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, more or less. It states the location of the root partition
[08:52] <Ashex|Work> disk 0 partition 0
[08:52] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: and check the activate when the computer starts
[08:53] <mjungo> c0nvlct: yes it is an identical install Kubuntu10.6 on the clinet as well.
[08:53] <wrhowc> ok
[08:53] <wrhowc> that was cheked
[08:53] <c0nv1ct> mjungo: ok, and have you setup CUPS on the server?
[08:53] <wrhowc> i leave the auto?
[08:53] <mjungo> c0nvlct: When I use the System settings printing applet I get as far as seeing the printer on the server machine but then it asks for a username and password and noen on the sytedm seem to work.
[08:53] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: yep leave it
[08:54] <mjungo> c0nvlct: yes cups is up and running fire ont he server.
[08:54] <wrhowc> hum
[08:54] <wrhowc> ok
[08:54] <c0nv1ct> mjungo: do you need it to authenticate? or would it be ok to set it up so anyone on the network can print?
[08:54] <mjungo> c0nvlct: As I said ist is an out of the box install.
[08:55] <wrhowc> i'll go and try it
[08:55] <wrhowc> brb
[08:55] <frojnd> hm now I have problems with mounting partitions,
[08:55] <mjungo> c0nvlct: Kubuntu uses the cups system by defaut am I right.
[08:55] <wrhowc> 1 question
[08:55] <frojnd> fdisk -l shows that there is /dev/sda1/
[08:55] <frojnd> /dev/sda1
[08:55] <frojnd> but I can't mount it
[08:55] <wrhowc> gateway
[08:55] <mjungo> c0nvlct: If would be good to set it up so anyone can print
[08:55] <wrhowc> has some problem
[08:55] <c0nv1ct> mjungo: yes i believe so, but there is some configuring that needs to be done
[08:56] <frojnd> /dev/sda1/ is also disk 0 partition 0 and has GRUB in charge..
[08:56] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: what do you mean?
[08:56] <wrhowc> The default Gateway IP address is invalid
[08:56] <mjungo> c0nvlct: any documentation for this?
[08:56] <mjungo> c0nvlct: or can you coach me though it,please
[08:56] <c0nv1ct> mjungo: i'm looking for it, i just setup CUPS at another location, i cant find the docs i used
[08:56] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: do yo have a direct connection or you're using a router?
[08:56] <wrhowc> direct
[08:57] <wrhowc> no ruter i use switch
[08:57] <wrhowc> not router
[08:57] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: anyhow i think you have to set the switch ip as your gateway
[08:57] <mjungo> c0nvlct: I find that most docs go to a ubuntu setup and somehow it does not equeate.
[08:57] <wrhowc> and that is?
[08:58] <wrhowc> i don't have any ip
[08:58] <frojnd> can someone tell me why, I can't mount /dev/sda1 here is fdisk -l output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11220/
[08:58] <wrhowc> every vomputer has it's own
[08:58] <wolferines> why would a new install change from previous installs, this last one, all my icons in my drop-down menus are missing, where they werent before
[08:58] <m_tadeu> wrhowc: do you know the ip of your switch?
[08:58] <wolferines> and my mouse is acting strange as well
[09:00] <mjungo> c0nvlct: what would be the cups username and password on a new kubuntu install. It seems not one of my users or the root/sudo password do it.
[09:00] <c0nv1ct> mjungo: are you able to browse directly to the CUPS server?
[09:01] <c0nv1ct> mjungo: use a web browser i mean
[09:01] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, it may already be mounted
[09:01] <mjungo> yes from server as well as clinet in firefox using 192.168.0.7:361
[09:01] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, type mount to check
[09:02] <Ashex|Work> df -h works too
[09:02] <Ashex|Work> ah, he left
[09:02] <Ashex|Work> oh well
[09:02] <mars^> Hi. What is the name of vista looking window decoration on new Kubuntu?
[09:04] <mars^> Hi. What is the name of vista looking window decoration on new Kubuntu?
[09:04] <mars^> i have it
[09:04] <mars^> thanks
[09:04] <kaner_> Is there  a good/simple way to setup a webproxy server on an kubuntu box? i already have a working apache install. im talking something similar to "the-cloak.com"
[09:07] <Ashex|Work> kaner_, phproxy?
[09:07] <m_tadeu> is there a frontend to svn?
[09:09] <wrhowc_> back
[09:09] <kaner_> hrm, ill look into it, thanks
[09:16] <frutax> i'm having trouble with usb devices automounting (printer, external drives). it's happening on more than one usb port though, and sometimes a reboot will fix this...sound like a software problem or a hardware problem?
[09:24] <soulrider> mrp193: tell me when youre looking at this channel
[09:24] <mrp193> i am
[09:25] <soulrider> k, you can ask stuff like how to install mp3 support for example
[09:25] <soulrider> !mp3
[09:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:25] <soulrider> and the bot gives you tutorials
[09:25] <mrp193> ok
[09:25] <wolferines> !nvidia
[09:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:26] <wolferines> !twinview
[09:26] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[09:30] <eilker> !sendmail
[09:30] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB
[09:31] <eilker> !smtp
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <devilsadvocate> how  do i recoonfigure xorg?
[09:34] <rstanca> devilsadvocate: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:35] <devilsadvocate> thanks rstanca
[09:37] <al> Can anyone help me with jackd installation, please?
[09:38] <eilker> !gpdasm
[09:39] <Kr4t05> Can someone tell me how I can write a macro that will simulate a CTRL+T press every few seconds?
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpdasm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <wolferines> anyone good with Nvidia Twinview setup?
[09:44] <soulrider> wolferines: i used it a couple of times and it worked great!
[09:44] <wolferines> how did you get it working?
[09:44] <wolferines> edit the xorg.conf manually?
[09:44] <wolferines> or just use nvidia-xconfig ?
[09:45] <binks> anyone no how to install an epson r220 as the drivers not in the list
[09:45] <jhutchins> binks: Check epson.com, they may have one.
[09:46] <jhutchins> binks: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R200
[09:47] <binks> its in the gutenprint package but i cant get it to show up in the list where are the pdd files held
[09:48] <jhutchins> binks: man locate
[09:48] <binks> in edgy its fine but im testing fiesty and it appears to be back to warty printer setup
[09:52] <meme-2> Any idea why I keep getting disconnected..... more so... why I get a nick error each time I reconnect?
[09:52] <meme-2> ah... IRC thinks I am still connected as meme-1
[09:53] <jhutchins> meme-2: The nic error is because of a ghost nic - the server thinks your nic is still logged in.
[09:53] <meme-2> yep... just saw that.
[09:53] <jhutchins> Yep.
[09:53] <Chetwin> How can I get the Kde Wallet to work how it is supposed to?  it stores my passwords the first time around, but never auto populates what it's supposed to.  I'm always asked to re-enter my passwords
[09:54] <meme-2> Anyone familiar with making K3b work with Ubuntu? It fails every time with "unable to WRITE@LBA=0h: input/output error" - I believe this is a "not being in root" issue.. But darnit! I am the only person who uses this computer. I believe I need to lauch k3b as "kdesu k3b" - correct?
[09:54] <Chetwin> meme-2: yes
[09:54] <Chetwin> Launch it as root every time and you'll be golden
[09:54] <jhutchins> Shouldn't.  Run the k3b setup script.
[09:55] <Chetwin> All the yapp about adding a burning group and then adding yourself is a crap shute
[09:55] <xbesnard> Hello, I search for help for installing a LEADTEK DTV2000H (analog/DVB-T&Radio tuner with Conexant CX23880 chipset) with Kubuntu Dapper (kernel 2.6.15-26-386). With LSPCI and modprobe, it looks fine but it doesnt work. Do I need to recompile the kernel. thanks for the answer. Xav
[09:55] <Chetwin> jhutchins: that doesn't work for some of us
[09:55] <Chetwin> Just inlucky
[09:55] <Chetwin> How can I get the Kde Wallet to work how it is supposed to?  it stores my passwords the first time around, but never auto populates what it's supposed to.  I'm always asked to re-enter my passwords
[09:55] <meme-2> But what about launching from the desktop? What properties do I need to change?  Chg access from read only to read/write?
[09:56] <jhutchins> !repeat | Chetwin
[09:56] <DaSkreech> !rrooted
[09:56] <ubotu> Chetwin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rrooted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <DaSkreech> !rrootage
[09:56] <xbesnard> for my information, what is the problem with DTV2000H?  Does i work with Edgy?
[09:56] <ubotu> rrootage: arcade-style space shooting game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.23a-4 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 240 kB
[09:57] <jhutchins> meme-2: Have you tried the k3bsetup script?
[09:57] <Chetwin> jhutchins: that doesn't work for some of us
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Blinking rrootage
[09:57] <DaSkreech> It kills my KDe session
[09:57] <jhutchins> Chetwin: You said that.
[09:58] <meme-2> jhutchins: I used synoptic to install.... I will look 4 and at the script
[09:58] <Chetwin> jhutchins: Yah, cuz everyone always comes with "Add the burning group and add user to the group.  Or use k3bsetup2 to make it work."  That doesn't help some of us
[09:58] <jhutchins> Chetwin: Then you have other problems.
[09:59] <Chetwin> Maybe so, but I just run as root and it works.
[09:59] <meme-2> jhutchins: thx found it
[09:59] <DaSkreech> !bugs
[09:59] <jhutchins> Chetwin: Which release are you on?  Did you upgrade or clean install?
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[09:59] <Chetwin> Clean install of Edgy
[09:59] <jhutchins> What's the owner & group of the CD device?
[09:59] <Chetwin> I have about 90% of the things I need working
[10:00] <Chetwin> I don't know, but the simple answers that I listed before don't work for me
[10:00] <jhutchins> Chetwin: There are good reasons not to run things as root.  This isn't windows.
[10:01] <Chetwin> jhutchins: I completely agree with you.  However, linux isn't perfect.  (i.e. my kde wallet issue)
[10:01] <Chetwin> jhutchins: Once in a while my knetworkmanager crashes on me and I have to force quit it and reload it
[10:01] <binks> arr jhutchins the gutenptint driver was installed but not the printer database in adept fs
[10:01] <jhutchins> That's exactly the kind of issue that can come from running the wrong thing as root.
[10:01] <meme-2> jhutchins: no burning group set... but what if I put in admin? Permissions on DVD are 660 root.admin
[10:02] <Chetwin> jhutchins: Are you refferring to my wallet issue?
[10:03] <jhutchins> meme-2: The actual device (/dev/hdc in my case) should be root:cdrom.
[10:04] <jhutchins> Chetwin: Yes.
[10:04] <Chetwin>  jhutchins: I'm not running the wallet as root
[10:04] <jhutchins> Chetwin: Wallet doesn't work correctly for me either, but I tried to disable it, so it's probably something I did.
[10:04] <jhutchins> meme-2: ls -l /dev/dvd should show you which device it's pointing to.
[10:05] <Chetwin> jhutchins: I don't understand how that relates to my issue
[10:05] <jhutchins> I dislike wallet, it's too much of a Windows copycat thing for me.
[10:05] <meme-2> jhutchins: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-03-19 16:24 /dev/dvd -> hdb
[10:05] <jhutchins> Chetwin: When you run things as root, files you change or create - sometimes without knowing it - are owned by root and can't be changed by the user.
[10:05] <Chetwin> jhutchins: I would like an alternative to entering my password everytime
[10:06] <DASkreech> Should I use launchpad for universe bugs?
[10:06] <jhutchins> meme-2: So what counts is the actual owner/group of /dev/hdb
[10:06] <Chetwin> jhutchins: I prefer wallet over keyring simply because I don't want to enter a password to use my passwords.  Seems totally redundant
[10:06] <jhutchins> Chetwin: So would I.
[10:06] <Chetwin> Okay all, I'm off like a prom dress
[10:06] <jhutchins> Chetwin: Strange, I always have to enter a password to start wallet.
[10:07] <Chetwin> jhutchins: You can choose to leave it blank the first time, only gnome keyring complains about not setting a password
[10:07] <Chetwin> jhutchins: Or maybe you're the one running things as root ;-)
[10:07] <jhutchins> Chetwin: Perhaps this is why it doesn't work for you.  For me, it wants my account password.
[10:08] <jhutchins> Chetwin: No, I actually told two programs not to use it, but kubuntu hard-codes some stuff to force it.  I think that's why it breaks.
[10:08] <Chetwin> jhutchins: Works in other distros just fine and in previous versions of kubuntu
[10:08] <jhutchins> Chetwin: Worked perfectly on my older Mandriva installs, but I disabled it.  Worked in Gentoo as well.
[10:09] <jhutchins> Chetwin: File a bugreport yet?
[10:09] <Chetwin> jhutchins: I'm gonna look into the forums when I get back home
[10:09] <Chetwin> jhutchins: Bug reports are a crap shute too.  Every one that I've filed has gotten an automatic response from bugzilla and then nothing else for months.  Waste of time
[10:09] <Chetwin> I really have to run tho
[10:09] <DASkreech> !soun
[10:09] <DASkreech> !sound
[10:09] <Chetwin> Be back in a couple hours
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:12] <meme-2>  jhutchins: Thx again... looks like it is working. But it is mildly annoying that I must enter my password each time I launch k3b. :-] 
[10:13] <mirek> hej :)
[10:14] <jhutchins> Chetwin: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro
[10:15] <jhutchins> meme-2: Hm, yes, that would be annoying.  Not sure why it's doing that.
[10:15] <jhutchins> meme-2: Which release?
[10:16] <Phoenix92x> hiya, um..Im getting an odd error. I try to ping anything I get "connect: No buffer space available" I cant get to websites either, torrents work fine though. message remains unchanged regardless of network load
[10:16] <DASkreech> how can I tell if a process is actually doing work or is in a busy wait?
[10:17] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: What kind of network adapter do you have?
[10:17] <jhutchins> DASkreech: top, ps.
[10:17] <jhutchins> ps ax being the most common usage.
[10:17] <Phoenix92x> realtek something or other
[10:17] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: Wireless? Cat5?
[10:17] <Phoenix92x> sorry for the vagueness, I havn't had a problem with it in the 3 years Ive had it
[10:17] <Phoenix92x> oh, its a wired card
[10:17] <Phoenix92x> cat5e cable's in it now
[10:18] <Alonea> ok, I had to leave unexpectedly a couple days ago and I was trying to get amarok to work. something about permissions getting messed up. When I load the program it says "Updating Database" and then goes away.
[10:18] <meme-2> jhutchins: can't tell you right now... it's burning a dvd... strange that I cannot access the menus.
[10:18] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: I take it you've rebooted?
[10:18] <jhutchins> meme-2: That's normal.  The burn process hasn't returned control to the program.
[10:18] <DASkreech> It's been using 89% for a while now
[10:19] <Phoenix92x> jhutchins: yep
[10:19] <jhutchins> meme-2: by release I meant of kubuntu - edgy, feisty?
[10:19] <Alonea> also, the battery symbol in my taskbar is missing. how do I get it back?
[10:19] <jhutchins> DASkreech: What'st the process?
[10:19] <DASkreech> kspread
[10:19] <meme-2> jhutchins: Oh... sorry.. edgy!
[10:20] <jhutchins> DASkreech: What's it supposed to be doing?  Opening a file?  Running a macro?
[10:20] <meme-2> jhutchins: re: normal.... so that is another Windows vs Linux thing I have to get used to? lol
[10:20] <DASkreech> Never mind it jsut stopped
[10:20] <Phoenix92x> it stops giving the error on and off, and I can't figure out why
[10:20] <DASkreech> jhutchins: It's opening a folder of CSV files
[10:21] <DASkreech> jhutchins: I think I know why it's asking for the passwor
[10:21] <jhutchins> Phoenix92x: Sounds like a driver or hardware error, or something like being actually out of ram.
[10:21] <DASkreech> meme-2: you probably are not in the right group
[10:22] <Phoenix92x> ...that would be most odd...given that Its running with 2 GB and I dont have that much running...
[10:22] <meme-2> DASkreech: right group?
[10:22] <Phoenix92x> interesting
[10:22] <DASkreech> meme-2: Yeah I don't recall ever having to put in my password
[10:22] <DASkreech>  I'm betting there is a cdrw group or something that you have to be a part of to burn seamlessly
[10:23] <meme-2> DASkreech: According to what I've just read... apparently that is expected behavior (using kdesu k3b)
[10:23] <sozialarsch> ~wacko wacko
[10:23] <Jonty> Any way to get detailed information about installed debs?
[10:24] <jhutchins> DASkreech: think it's "cdrom" on kubuntu.
[10:24] <meme-2> It isn't that important as long as it works.
[10:24] <jhutchins> meme-2: Did you run that k3bsetup script?
[10:24] <bimmel> can somone tell me how to start a cpp programm in console? i used g++ programm.cpp -o programm.o
[10:24] <bimmel> how can i start the program?
[10:24] <meme-2> jhutchins: yes
[10:25] <jhutchins> meme-2: That _should_ make it possible to start without the password.
[10:25] <DASkreech> meme-2: Oh yeah if you are openeing k3b with kdesu
[10:25] <DASkreech> Though technically you can get it to stop doing that as well
[10:25] <meme-2> Hmmm.... must have done something wrong.... but it does work and I am happy for that. :-)
[10:25] <DASkreech>  it's just not very secure
[10:25] <meme-2> I will look more in depth later.
[10:25] <DASkreech> Jonty: dpkg -l I think
[10:25] <D_Ed> bimmel: chmod a+x programm.o then ./programm.o
[10:26] <meme-2> It was important to get this demo DVD burned for the moment.
[10:26] <jhutchins> meme-2: We could work it out now.
[10:26] <D_Ed> bimmel: though I stronly reccommend using an IDE (kdevelop) if it's going to be a larger program than just one file
[10:26] <bimmel> thx D_Ed
[10:27] <jhutchins> meme-2: ls -l /dev/cdrw
[10:27] <Jonty> DASkreech: I'm really wanting to look at the dependencies
[10:27] <meme-2> But K3b seems quite slow or is that my imagination? 4.3GB in 16 minutes.  And the darn verify just failed! One moment jhutchins... need to find out why???
[10:27] <soulrider> !klauncher
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klauncher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <DASkreech> Jonty: try apt:/
[10:28] <Jonty> cheers
[10:28] <meme-2> jhutchins: results: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-03-19 16:24 /dev/cdrw -> hdb
[10:28] <Jonty> wow, haven't seen this before
[10:28] <meme-2> pretty much the same as the DVD
[10:28] <jhutchins> meme-2: Ok, now ls -l /dev/hdb
[10:29] <D_Ed> jhutchins: the k3b setup utility should fix all permissions
[10:29] <jhutchins> meme-2: Oh, sorry, we do want the actual hd? device for the burner.
[10:29] <jhutchins> D_Ed: Should, but apparently didn't.
[10:30] <DASkreech> soulrider: klauncher?
[10:30] <D_Ed> jhutchins: ok, sorry was jumping in halfway through a conv.
[10:30] <soulrider> DASkreech: someone asked me aobut it and i dont really know what it is
[10:30] <jhutchins> D_Ed: Had another guy here who had a similar problem, script didn't work for him.
[10:31] <soulrider> so i asked the bot if there wa a pckage called like that
[10:31] <DASkreech> soulrider: maybe they mean krunner?
[10:31] <soulrider> he said klauncher
[10:31] <DASkreech> ok
[10:31] <DASkreech> Hi claydoh
[10:32] <claydoh> hola DASkreech
[10:32] <jhutchins> meme-2: Well, hope somebody's around when you decide to fix it.
[10:33] <Alonea> so, how do I know if the power thingie is installed or not?
[10:36] <JohnFlux_> how do I get my dhcp server to not give an IP to myself ? :)
[10:39] <meme-2> jhutchins: thanks for the continued help. results of ls -l /dev/hdb : brw-rw---- 1 root admin 3, 64 2007-03-19 16:24 /dev/hdb
[10:40] <meme-2> BTW K3b did burn successfully but not sure why the verification failed.
[10:40] <meme-2> failed on not finding the 1st file in the compare.
[10:41] <tyrone> hello everypeople
[10:41] <tyrone> I just got kubuntu... it took a while to get used to, but it rocks!
[10:41] <tyrone> my one question is, where can i get a program to convert .rpm files to .tar.gz?
[10:43] <meme-2> tyrone: chk this out: http://www.slackware.com/config/packages.php
[10:43] <meme-2> tyrone: chk this out too: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/70992-converting-tar-gz-archive-deb.html
[10:44] <jhutchins> tyrone: Why would you do that?
[10:44] <jhutchins> tyrone: The original tarball should be available if you look for it, or you can get the .src.rmp, but that's irrelevant to kubuntu
[10:45] <meme-2> jhutchins: actually.... can't ubuntu read rpm... pretty sure it can handle them
[10:46] <coreymon77> alien
[10:46] <coreymon77> !alien
[10:46] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:47] <frojnd> why I can't use kate: here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11244/
[10:47] <meme-2> That must have been what I read (re: alien)
[10:48] <jhutchins> !kdesu | frojnd
[10:48] <ubotu> frojnd: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:49] <jhutchins> meme-2: The problem is that kubuntu does some basic system level things very differently than RPM based systems.
[10:49] <SolidSource> so, I take it that they aren't putting k3b 1.0 into edgy repos any time soon
[10:50] <frojnd> !gksudo
[10:50] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[10:50] <frojnd> don't get it
[10:51] <frojnd> if I wanna create file "index.php" I use kdesu index.php and thatn it asks me to write my pass... and than it says command index.php not found..
[10:51] <Alonea> frojnd: I have never gotten gksudo to work...
[10:51] <SolidSource> gksudo = ubuntu
[10:52] <SolidSource> kdesu = kubuntu
[10:52] <yacoob> what's the deal with firefox' menu decolorize on mouse movement? :((
[10:52] <frojnd> SolidSource: so If I wanna create fole index.php (I must have root access) how can I do that?
[10:52] <frojnd> fole=file
[10:53] <SolidSource> run "kdesu <app>" and create the file
[10:54] <frojnd> SolidSource: kdesu kate ?
[10:54] <SolidSource> yep
[10:54] <SolidSource> kdesu is gksudo for kubuntu
[10:54] <SolidSource> works the same way
[10:55] <Alonea> ah, ok, didn't know that...was following instructions for something. Now, anyone know how I can get my amarok back to working order?
[10:56] <meme-2> okay.... I might be a bit confused.... kdesu vs gksudo - what is the difference?  I am using kdesu on kubuntu successfully. Or... does it matter that my distro began life as ubuntu and morphed itself into kubuntu after I had installed a number of educational prgs from Synoptic?
[10:56] <SolidSource> most tuts are written for ubuntu...you must change commands to their KDE form for kubuntu
[10:56] <DASkreech> meme-2: If you are using the KDE desktop environment use kdesu
[10:56] <DASkreech>  if you re using a gtk based desktop use gksudo
[10:57] <meme-2> DASkreech: I am using Gnome..... oh heck... I am not even sure anymore.... LOL!
[10:57] <meme-2> I am only a week into Linux.
[10:57] <DASkreech> meme-2: perss Alt+space
[10:57] <Jonty> meme-2: It doesn't really matter
[10:57] <DASkreech> Press alt+Space
[10:58] <DASkreech> If katapult comes up then you are in Kubuntu Which uses KDE :)
[10:58] <meme-2> "Press alt+Space" then what?
[10:58] <meme-2> lol
[10:58] <Jonty> ok, you don't have katapult. Which proves nothing
[10:58] <DASkreech> meme-2: a easier way is probably alt+F1
[10:58] <DASkreech> if the menu comes from the bottom it's probably KDE
[10:58] <Jonty> alt+F7 to get back
[10:58] <meme-2> alt+f1 brings up application menu
[10:58] <DASkreech> from the top probably Gnom
[10:58] <Jonty> oh wait
[10:58] <Jonty> no
[10:59] <meme-2> from top
[10:59] <meme-2> Gnome... wow, I was right... do I get a prize?
[10:59] <SolidSource> DASkreech: not necessarily...my menus are on the top and I am in kubuntu
[10:59] <DASkreech> Unless you've been rearranging the menus :)
[10:59] <Jonty> anyway, meme-2, which program you use to excecute as root doesn't really matte
[10:59] <Jonty> r..r
[10:59] <Jonty> haha
[10:59] <Alonea> Ok, when I click on the amarok icon, it does the bouncy symbol thing, but doesn't load. If I load it in the terminal as user it says "Updating database" thing and doesn't load. If I load it in the terminal as root, it loads fine.
[10:59] <DASkreech> SolidSource: You haven't been running it for a week
[11:00] <meme-2> Nope... heck... I am still poking my way around...
[11:00] <Alonea> Ok, when I click on the amarok icon, it does the bouncy symbol thing, but doesn't load. If I load it in the terminal as user it says "Updating database" thing and doesn't load. If I load it in the terminal as root, it loads fine.
[11:00] <SolidSource> DASkreech: still...never assume
[11:00] <DASkreech> Alonea: You need to redo your database
[11:00] <Jonty> the best way to get aquainted with linux is to do an install you knwo you can break :)
[11:00] <DASkreech> Alonea: ask in #amarok
[11:00] <DASkreech> SolidSource: I said Probably as well as qualified it with if you haven't been messing with the menus
[11:00] <Alonea> sorry about twice...got my channels mixed up
[11:01] <D_Ed> Alonea: as root it doesn't know where your collection is as your prefs are different for that user
[11:01] <D_Ed> it won't be a permissions thing
[11:01] <DASkreech> SolidSource: I could get more authoritative but something easily visual normally helps
[11:01] <kakarotto> hola
[11:01] <kakarotto> necesito ayuda
[11:01] <Alonea> !es
[11:01] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:01] <DASkreech> like looking at the help menu to see if it says systems settings
[11:01] <kakarotto> XD
[11:02] <meme-2> BTW, someone in this group claimed (a few days ago) that Linux is difficult to lock up! I've found a way to get a complete freeze up where power cycling is required.
[11:02] <orient2000> call amarok from konsole and you will see all errors
[11:03] <jhutchins> meme-2: It's possible.
[11:03] <jhutchins> meme-2: It's easier to lock the GUI than the actual PC.
[11:03] <devilsadvocate> meme-2, its possible. its just a less common occurence
[11:03] <DASkreech> meme-2: Oh I'm pretty sure I can lock up any os
[11:03] <zbenjamin> what package do i have to install to develop with c++
[11:03] <DASkreech> meme-2: you can sure setup linux to be very functional and still not lock up though
[11:03] <meme-2> Unless there is some trick that I don't know of.... mouse still moved but everything else stopped (clock, etc.)
[11:03] <devilsadvocate> zbenjamin, build-essential
[11:03] <DASkreech> meme-2: Could you press Alt+F1 ?
[11:03] <jhutchins> meme-2: If the mouse moved there was hope!
[11:03] <DASkreech> Alt+Ctrl+F1 ?
[11:04] <devilsadvocate> meme-2, in that case it wasnt a complete lock up. you probably couldve killed the offensive process on another console
[11:04] <jhutchins> If the numlock/capslock keys turn the LED's on and off, ther's hope.
[11:04] <DASkreech> jhutchins: No I've locked up hard and I could still get the mouse to move
[11:04] <jhutchins> DASkreech: Yeah, me too.
[11:04] <DASkreech> Couldn't click anything. And keyboard didn't work but the mouse moved around merrily
[11:04] <zbenjamin> devilsadvocate:  thx
[11:04] <DASkreech> jhutchins: point taken though It does inspire hope :)
[11:04] <psygrass> hi.. can someone help me please... i am using ubuntu and wanted to use KDE desktop. i used this command (sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop). the problem is that is has finished downloading ( iguess) and stuck at (Preconfiguring packages ...) for aout 20 minutes now. so i am not sure what is wrong
[11:04] <jhutchins> DASkreech: Then I've been able to connect via ssh from another box and fix it, but I've also locked it too hard for that as well.
[11:05] <devilsadvocate> zbenjamin, if you want a graphical IDE, you can take a look at kdevelop as well
[11:05] <Alonea> ok, this thing is telling me to make my path to /usr/local/arm-elf/bin so how do I do that?
[11:05] <WhiteRose1> psygrass, you can probably stop it and start it again
[11:06] <psygrass> whiterose1: thanx...but there is not danger of getting things stuck in the middle?
[11:06] <WhiteRose1> psygrass, when downloading? No
[11:06] <shoxi> hello
[11:06] <devilsadvocate> psygrass, that can be corrected for in any case with a -f
[11:06] <DASkreech> jhutchins: Should I use launchpad to report universe package bugs?
[11:06] <zbenjamin> devilsadvocate: do i have to use apt-get ?
[11:06] <devilsadvocate> (or s it -a.. ?)
[11:06] <shoxi> german people here?
[11:07] <DASkreech> !de
[11:07] <devilsadvocate> zbenjamin, yep
[11:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:07] <zbenjamin> shoxi:  yes
[11:07] <WhiteRose1> I think it's -a
[11:07] <devilsadvocate> !build-essential | zbenjamin
[11:07] <ubotu> zbenjamin: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:08] <meme-2> ha ha ha.... you folks are gonna love this newbie move... I tried ALT-CTRL-F1 and didn't know how the heck to get out of there! Exit (as per windows) just brought up a login prompt!  Good thing I have another computer and good thing I know how to Google!
[11:08] <meme-2> I am finally back!
[11:08] <zbenjamin> i know how to compile stuff but i'm new to kubuntu
[11:08] <progek> I get this error trying to start kxdocker-> http://progek.homelinux.net:8080/test/help.png  Any ideas?
[11:09] <devilsadvocate> zbenjamin, sudo apt-get install build-essential .  after that is doe, the usual gcc and g++ will work on the command line
[11:09] <jhutchins> meme-2: Unlike Windows, where you run the console from within the GUI, linux runs the console as a native app, like a layer beneath the GUI.  You can shut down the GUI and have a text-only system.
[11:10] <jhutchins> meme-2: You can also do pretty much everything from the console, including graphics display (and editing).
[11:10] <Hasrat_USA> good evening
[11:10] <Cugel> meme-2: which is good -- because you can restart the windows-like GUI without rebooting. Well I like that.
[11:10] <progek> anyone know of a good alternate for kxdocker besides kiba-dock?
[11:12] <meme-2> Jhutchins: I am definately curious... I will attempt to see if that consistent lockup" with Scorched 3D
[11:12] <meme-2> is really a "lockup"
[11:13] <alert_> hi
[11:14] <alert_> anybody here?
[11:14] <alert_> i have question about kubuntu...
[11:15] <Cugel> Yes?
[11:15] <Cugel> There are about 350 people here to help you.
[11:15] <alert_> i have problem with russian locale after distro upgrade...
[11:16] <alert_> upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10
[11:16] <alert_> the main problem - Java apps now not working with russian UTF-8
[11:17] <DASkreech> Hmm
[11:17] <alert_> Java apps - jEdit, Sun Studio Enterprise
[11:17] <DASkreech> !ru
[11:17] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:17] <DASkreech> :-)
[11:17] <alert_> hm?
[11:19] <alert_> and in Konsole all is OK, but in system console and urxvt - can see russian, but can't write
[11:23] <chuck_> i'm having trouble starting x when using the nvidia driver (though it worked yesterday). does anyone know what log file the error would be in from a failed "startx"?
[11:24] <Trickser2> hi, i am having problems with my wpa connection. I am using knetworkmanager and i lost every 5 seconds the connection, although it normally works well. In windows it does not happen
[11:24] <LJL> chuck_: i guess /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:24] <Trickser2> any ideas?
[11:24] <chuck_> wow, didn't even see that
[11:25] <chuck_> thanks LJL
[11:27] <frojnd> what packages do I have to install for compyling?
[11:29] <LJL> !build-essential > frojnd    (frojnd, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:36] <Dimp> hey
[11:36] <Dimp> Distro: Ubuntu 6.10 Linux. System: Pentium 4, 3.2 Ghz, 1.5 gb ddr, 6600 Geforce OC. Problem: "Warning:ipx_socket:port:27015 bind:WSAEINVAL". Info: Connecting to game server via Counter Strike.
[11:37] <Dimp> =( can anyone help me ?
[11:37] <bAstidraZor> morning
[11:37] <Dimp> good morning
[11:38] <Dimp> can anyone help me =(
[11:40] <Dimp> can anyone help me?
[11:41] <mervteck> what you need Dimp
[11:41] <mervteck> ill do my best
[11:41] <Dimp> Distro: Ubuntu 6.10 Linux. System: Pentium 4, 3.2 Ghz, 1.5 gb ddr, 6600 Geforce OC. Problem: "Warning:ipx_socket:port:27015 bind:WSAEINVAL". Info: Connecting to game server via Counter Strike.
[11:41] <mervteck> hmmm
[11:41] <mervteck> u running cedega or wine
[11:42] <Dimp> wine
[11:42] <Dimp> 33
[11:42] <mervteck> send me an IM
[11:43] <Dimp> ?
[11:44] <mervteck> look for an im from me
[11:44] <mervteck> and talk to me there
[11:44] <Dimp> yes
[11:44] <mervteck> k talk to me in there
[11:44] <Dimp> are you getting anything?
[11:45] <mervteck> no
[11:45] <Dimp> I said hello
[11:45] <Dimp> err
[11:45] <mervteck> do u have aim or msn
[11:45] <fignew> you need to register your nickname before you can send IMs
[11:45] <Dimp> aim
[11:45] <MotorCityMadMan> using konqueror for web browsing the words are misplaced (over lapping) is there a fix for the problem ?
[11:45] <Dimp> I can hear you tho
[11:45] <fignew> mervteck: you get cedega working?
[11:45] <mervteck> whats ur aim
[11:45] <mervteck> yes i did fig
[11:45] <fignew> :)
[11:46] <paolo704> hi all
[11:46] <coreymon77> hi guys
[11:46] <Dimp> try tell me ur s in the priv
[11:46] <mervteck> i may need your help with figuring out how to install a patch for BF2 through it thouhg =)
[11:46] <fignew> MotorCityMadMan: try making your font smaller
[11:46] <MotorCityMadMan> trying now
[11:46] <fignew> MotorCityMadMan: my old math teacher had the same name online :)
[11:46] <coreymon77> how do you find out what files/folders are taking up lots/the most space on my drive?
[11:46] <fignew> !filelight
[11:47] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[11:47] <Dimp> got it
[11:47] <fignew> ^^ install that :)
[11:47] <mervteck> k
[11:47] <mervteck> message me there
[11:48] <MotorCityMadMan> fignew| that worked / help i can't see / i can't see / damn bumped my head
[11:48] <MotorCityMadMan> :-0
[11:51] <fignew> sweet
[11:55] <cyril_> Hi !
[11:56] <mervteck> who was it that was just talking to me in here
[11:56] <mervteck> like 5 minuets ago
[11:57] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to find the kmfprotocollibrary.xml file instaleld with kmyfirewall??
[12:00] <crackhead_25> how does one find a file or search for a file in kubuntu??
[12:02] <coreymon77> crackhead_25: kmenu--find files/folders
[12:02] <distroid> fsview is the coolest thing ever
[12:03] <distroid> to whoever cares
[12:04] <coreymon77> hi guys
[12:04] <mervteck> hey
[12:05] <coreymon77> you know how when you select text, it automatically copies it to klipper
[12:05] <distroid> sup
[12:05] <distroid> klipper is cool like that
[12:05] <coreymon77> is it possible to shut that off
[12:05] <distroid> hmm
[12:05] <coreymon77> a friend of mine wants to shut that off
[12:05] <kakarotto> ayuda en espaol
[12:05] <coreymon77> if possible
[12:05] <distroid> why
[12:05] <coreymon77> says its a pointless annoyance
[12:05] <distroid> priivacy isssue?
[12:06] <distroid> it will come in handy soon enough get over it
[12:06] <coreymon77> !es| kakarotto
[12:06] <ubotu> kakarotto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:08] <distroid> sorry i have no idea how to do that except kill klipper
[12:08] <coreymon77> distroid: there must be a way to shut that off
[12:08] <distroid> or use fluxbox if you want zero pointless annoyance factor
[12:08] <coreymon77> distroid: its not me, its someone else
[12:08] <distroid> oh yeah
[12:08] <distroid> well lemme check
[12:09] <distroid> brb
[12:11] <yoavg> Hello. I have some problem installing kubuntu on my laptop: the CD boots fine, then I see the screen with "start or install kubuntu", "start kubuntu in safe..." etc, but when I choose something, the CD seem to be working (light is on) but nothing else happens -- I'm not getting to a new screen or anything.. Anyone has any idea? can I at least somehow have a non-graphic boot, so I can see...
[12:11] <yoavg> ...where it hangs?
[12:11] <crackhead_25> yoavg: use the alternate install
[12:11] <crackhead_25> (not the typical 386)
[12:12] <yoavg> What does it mean?
[12:12] <yoavg> Download a different cd?
[12:12] <crackhead_25> download, burn the i386 altenrate install
[12:12] <crackhead_25> yes
[12:12] <crackhead_25> use that one
[12:12] <crackhead_25> in non-graphical
[12:12] <crackhead_25> it has a text install option
[12:12] <yoavg> ok... I'll try that. Thanks.