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xstThe print dialog in many applications (e.g. firefox and acroread) has "letter" as the default paper size. How do I set the default paper size to A4?12:15
easytigerdoesnt kate have an html tidy?12:15
yoavgI started d/ling the alternate version.. It'll take a while. Is there any chance of doing something with the regular version (some special boot option or something)?12:16
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dwidmanneasytiger, if it does, it might be part of the  kate-plugins package12:18
easytigeryea... i have that.. dont see it.12:19
dwidmannI'm pretty sure Quanta does ... and it's more or less a heavily glorified kate :)12:19
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easytigerhmm. i ran from cli, but it just removed all indentation12:20
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easytigertidy -im12:20
dwidmannpretty sure quanta has an auto-indenter of sorts too, not sure how well it works ..12:21
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dwidmannhmm, seems it works pretty well12:22
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Elvis_Presley!es12:26
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:26
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Complejathnks xD12:26
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lindinhaola12:28
lindinhaboa noite12:28
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nivnoachhello12:29
nivnoachI'm trying to install firefox and some more tools, but it seems as if there are not repositories containing these tools defined.12:30
nivnoachI guess I have to look somewhere for repositories addresses12:30
nivnoachwhere can I do that?12:30
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Carutsunivnoach12:32
Carutsufirefox can be installed from the repostories12:33
Carutsuusing adept or in command line using apt-get, however, are you sure you have the universe and multiverse repostories enabled?12:33
nivnoachwhat's is the keyword for thaT?12:33
nivnoachI think not.... these two contain all these tools?12:34
Carutsucontain firefox yes12:34
nivnoachok12:34
nivnoachI'll give it a shot thanks12:34
Carutsuthe extensions must be downloaded from the web12:34
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nivnoachmultiverse?12:35
nivnoachI don't have this one at all... only universe and backports12:35
Carutsuim afraid i don't know the url12:36
Carutsualthough with universe should be enough... i hope12:36
Carutsuand the extensions should be downloaded from: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/extensions/12:36
Carutsuare you using adept?12:37
nivnoachnope.... I'm using commandline12:37
Carutsudont forget to click apply, i usually forget12:37
Carutsuoh, ok, ok12:37
Carutsuapt-get then12:37
nivnoachya12:37
Carutsuapt-get mozilla-firefox12:38
nivnoachthough still it claims:12:38
nivnoachE: Package firefox has no installation candidate12:38
nivnoachMozillla12:38
nivnoachoh12:38
nivnoachPackage mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:39
nivnoachThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:39
nivnoachis only available from another source12:39
nivnoachE: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate12:39
Carutsuer, let me check12:39
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Carutsudeb http://XX.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse universe12:41
Carutsudeb http://XX.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse multiverse12:41
Carutsuwhere XX is your country code12:41
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nivnoachstill the samme12:43
nivnoachadept it is12:43
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rigogamahttp://latinmail.com12:44
Carutsuok12:44
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bonbonthejon!source-o-matic | nivnoach12:46
ubotunivnoach: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:46
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yacoobwhat's the deal with firefox' menu decolorize on mouse movement? :((12:46
yacoobit makes menu look pretty first, next second ugly :(12:47
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makiapt-get autoremove removes only old programs12:48
maki?12:48
dwidmannIt removes programs that it thinks are orphaned/no longer necessary12:48
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bonbonthejonmaki: unused packages, stuff that isnt used by other packages12:48
dwidmannAT least, that's wh at it's supposed to do12:48
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crackhead_25anyone know how to add cups protocol to kmyfirewall???12:48
LJLmaki, autoremove removes any package that was not *manually* installed (i.e. explicitely by you) and that is not required by any other package anymore12:49
LJLi find it's usually safe to use. and as well it should12:49
yacoobnoone has a problem with firefox like mine one? :/12:49
makiok12:49
makithanks12:49
bonbonthejonyacoob: I use konqueror12:50
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crackhead_25anyone know how to add cups protocol to kmyfirewall??12:51
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BluesKajdwidmann, autoremove also removes changes such as the fglrx binary drivers for DRI12:52
bigdad1e!scim | bigdad1e12:52
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frojnd!codecs12:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:53
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bigdad1e!ati12:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:54
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BluesKaj!fglrx12:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:55
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bigdad1elspci see's my vga but not the model. what do i do?12:55
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c0nv1ctbigdad1e: try lshw12:57
frojnd!lmsensors12:58
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto12:58
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bigdad1ecOnv1ct: what am i looking for? display it says nvidia i have ati12:59
bigdad1ecOnv1ct: nm i see it01:00
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bigdad1ecOnv1ct: but it doesnt tell me what model it is and the size is wrong01:00
BluesKaj!ATI01:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:00
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hendaushello01:01
hendaussomebody help me!01:01
bigdad1eplz dont give me that again. ive been through that it helped as much as it could i just cant get it to load with my vga past the kubuntu boot/loading screen01:01
bigdad1ealt ctrl f1 doesnt do anything either01:01
hendaushelpers i need a help01:02
kory_heya, anyone know how to change the default file manager in kde?01:02
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bigdad1ehendaus: what do u need help with?01:02
coreymon77!ask| hendaus01:02
ubotuhendaus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:02
BluesKajbigdad1e , alt+F101:03
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hendausbigdad1e,  thanx, i am newbie on kubuntu linux, i have two files .mpeg and i need to make them as dvd player01:03
bigdad1ebluesKa: doesnt do anything as well01:03
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kakarottohi01:04
bigdad1ehendaus: u need to play then or write them?01:04
BluesKajare you at the prompt in terminal , bigdad1e01:04
BluesKaj?01:04
bigdad1eblueska: yes01:04
kakarottoquestion!!, how i can change the fstab??01:04
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kakarottoanyone know??01:04
hendausbigdad1e,  i have a dvd player and i want to burn the two .mpeg files01:05
BluesKajkdesu kate /etc/fstab, kakarotto01:05
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bigdad1e!dvdburning|hendaus01:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdburning - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:05
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bigdad1ehendaus: ok here this will tell u everything. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning?highlight=%28dvd%29%7C%28burn%2901:06
BluesKaj!K3B01:06
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto01:06
kakarottommm i using kubuntu01:06
hendausBluesKaj,  i have k3b but i dont know how to burn to dvd player01:07
bigdad1ehendaus: that how to forum will tell u everything01:07
hendausok01:07
BluesKajkakarotto , kdesu kate /etc/fstab in the kmenu run command box01:08
bigdad1eblueska: is there any way i can get my vga to work correctly from the termianl?01:08
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BluesKajhendaus, read about K3B first then maybe we can answer , your question is too general in nature01:09
kory_heya, anyone know how to change the default file manager in kde?01:09
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BluesKajbigdad1e , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:10
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hendausBluesKaj,  i open k3b and i make open new project then dvd, i add the two files and then i hit burn and it gives error01:10
makican i reverse the autoremove comand01:11
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BluesKajhendaus , can you play a dvd ?01:11
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hendausBluesKaj, yes01:12
hendausBluesKaj,  so that i need to burn two mpeg film files and to make them to read dvd player01:13
hendausbigdad1e,  it doesnot tell the site about burning dvd movies01:13
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bigdad1ehendaus: ok here this will tell u everything. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning?highlight=%28dvd%29%7C%28burn%2901:13
dwidmannkory_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-366709.html01:14
bigdad1e!k3b|hendaus01:14
ubotuhendaus: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto01:14
kory_dwidmann: thank you01:14
makihow to install the pakages i removed with autoremove in feasty01:15
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hendausbigdad1e,  can u please tell me how to make a dvd film "?01:15
bigdad1ehendaus: sry i wish i could stay and help u more but its time for the gym. if u need more help bigdad1e is my msn ill b back in 3 or 4 hours01:15
BluesKajare the files actually mpeg or avi , hendaus?01:16
BluesKajwhat is the file extension?01:16
Chetwinjhutchins: rude01:16
hendausBluesKaj,  they are .avi01:16
bigdad1ehendaus: convert to xvid and that will work perfect01:16
bigdad1ehendaus: should just burn and that will work01:16
crackhead_25anyone know how to add cups protocol to kmyfirewall?? anyone??01:16
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hendausbigdad1e,  bye01:17
kakarottommm question!, how i can make a format whith a program in linux?01:17
kory_oh, duh, inode01:17
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kakarottoi dont know if i did say fine01:17
hendausBluesKaj,  the file are .avi but i convert them by the avidemux01:18
dwidmannWell, if its conversions that need done, ffmpeg is almost infinitely capable :)01:19
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dwidmanntranscode is a nice converter program ......01:20
dwidmannpain in the butt to use, but nice01:20
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Number2hello what folder is firefox kept in?01:22
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dwidmannProbably /usr/lib/firefox01:24
Number2thanks01:24
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EzInKyHello. I'm trying to help a friend with Kubuntu...he can't sudo from konsole but can run synaptic. Any ideas?01:26
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dwidmannEzInKy: Think his sudoers.conf file might have been hosed?01:26
jhutchinsEzInKy: Easier if you tell us what _does_ happen than what doesn't.01:26
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dwidmannEzInKy: just have him reboot in recovery mode, and run "visudo"01:27
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EzInKyPerhaps...he installed twice. Adept and Synaptic run...but nothing from konsole.01:27
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EzInKyI was thinking that would be the answer...I told him to use Kubuntu because he is new to Linux.01:28
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dwidmannSo long as there's a line like: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL in there ...... it should be okay01:29
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makisome feisty user here01:31
Cicci0hi01:31
EzInKyOkay...I don't have access to his machine so I'll be sure to type the directions clearly B-)01:31
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EzInKyThanks for the help.01:31
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jhutchinsiirc it's possible to hose sudo by entering the wrong password too many times in a row.01:36
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Number2hello  how where do i put downloaded themes for global use?01:36
Jedediacan someone tell me how to check my video card using the terminal01:36
Number2what do you mean by check01:36
Jededialike a command to tell me what it is01:36
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Number2lspci -x01:36
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Number2i think that should work01:36
jhutchins!themes | Number201:36
ubotuNumber2: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy01:36
Jedediaok let me check01:36
Number2thanks01:36
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jhutchinslspci without the -x will probably be more useful.01:36
Jedediathanx01:36
Number2hrmm, thanks j i thought i was in Xububtu01:37
epimethahoy folks!01:38
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Number2mmmm cookie01:39
epimethcan I get one?01:40
epimethpretty please01:40
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epimethfor anyone who cares... beryl worked on the laptop with absolutely no configuration!!! WOOT01:45
epimethafter the desktop nightmare, that was an incredibly good feeling01:45
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Aloneaok, I am trying to compile a program and it says it needs Ruby, headers included, I have the rubt libraries, but I dont think I have the headers, what are the package names supposed to be?01:47
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Alonea*ruby01:47
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epimethnot sure... but lets try this:01:48
epimeth!ruby01:48
uboturuby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB01:48
epimethhmm01:48
epimeththe package is probably just ruby01:49
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epimethyou might need to add the ruby headers to your path, or move them to your program's path01:49
BartSimpsonI have this problem with executing scripts in bash: I own the file, I have execute, write, and read rights on it, it is +x, but i still get this error: "bash: ./myscript: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied"01:50
epimethwhats the first few lines of your script?01:50
c0nv1ctBartSimpson: paste your script to a pastebin if ya can01:50
BartSimpsonsure01:51
kakarottoclaudio tay?01:51
Aloneaepimeth: i dunno. its so hard sometimes installing pkgs for stuff when you dont know the exact names. trying to compile amarok because the repo one is effed up totally01:52
JucatoAlonea: install either ruby1.8-dev or ruby1.9-dev (depending on whether ruby1.8 or ruby1.9 is installed)01:52
sidcrowke paa01:52
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sidcrowke pa kakarotto01:52
BartSimpsonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11273/01:52
c0nv1ctAlonea: the official amarok repo?01:53
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Aloneac0nv1ct: yeah, the people #amarok can't figure out whats wrong with mine and said to compile with full debug.01:53
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Aloneac0nv1ct: its actually the one that came preinstalled on my system01:54
rooobwhere can i find out info about cron.daily? i just realised alot of my backup scripts have not been running.. and i would like to fistly get email notification from scripts palced in there..  but additionally i would like to know what is reponsible for running the scripts in there, and what requirements they must meet01:54
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rooobi know about crontab -e but i dont know how that relates to cron.daily01:54
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me2win!samba01:56
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:56
epimeththo i've never actually got swat to work :-)01:57
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kroudycan someone help me? i am trying to customize my k menu menu button and i cant seem to find where to do it at01:59
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epimethBartSimpson: your script works fine for me :-(01:59
Aloneaok, I am compiling another program (rockbox) and it keeps saying arm-elf-gcc not found, not in your path, even though it IS in my path and is definately installed. I used the path their shell script thingie asked for (it sets up the cross-compiler and everything) the people in #rockbox are stumped.01:59
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epimethkroudy: right click K -> Menu Editor01:59
Jucatokroudy:  <apt> Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx01:59
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Jucatoepimeth: that will customize the menu, not the K Menu button02:00
Jucato:)02:00
epimethoh... lol02:00
BartSimpsonepimeth: yeah, i dont think it's the script. this also happened with another binary file i tried to run...02:00
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epimethsorry kroudy, I misread your question02:00
kroudyits ok thank you02:00
epimethBartSimpson: what happens when you run bash... no arguments, no nothing02:00
epimeth$bash02:01
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BartSimpsonthe binary file was created by a configure script, which ran fine, which then tried to run the newly created bin but couldnt02:01
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Number2what are the chmod option to allo everyone to do everything?02:01
BartSimpsonepimeth: it just creates a new bash session within my current one02:02
epimethBartSimpson: so thats not the problem.... hmmm02:02
JucatoNumber2: chmod +rwx I think02:02
Number2thanks02:02
JucatoNumber2: that will set rwx for user (owner), group, and others02:02
Jucatoor rather chmod a+rwx02:02
Number2ok02:03
BartSimpsonepimeth: i think it has something to do with it being created on my computer. the configure script ran fine because i just took it out of an archive, but since the binary it tried to run was created by itself, it wouldnt work02:03
luckyone_does kubuntu use gdm or kdm?02:03
Jucatokdm02:03
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luckyone_I just upgraded my server from xubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop02:04
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luckyone_it isn't starting correctly...02:04
epimethBartSimpson: what happens when you try to run $bash ./myscript02:04
epimeth?02:04
luckyone_I logged into from this laptop and removed xubuntu-desktop and autoremoved everything else...02:05
BartSimpsonepimeth: same thing, "bash: ./myscript: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied"02:05
Aloneaoh, my battery thing in the taskbar has dissapeared and its NOT listed in the applets02:05
epimethBartSimpson: silly question, I know, but you *sure* you have +x ?02:06
JucatoBartSimpson: the script has +x for everything?02:06
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BartSimpsonJucato: yep i set directly chmod +x myscript, and confirmed it in konqueror02:06
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kroudyok well i made my own custom button to match my desktop and i couldnt get it installed i moved it to the /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/apps/ and it overided and now the kde icon is different everywhere else except for the k menu menu button02:07
JucatoBartSimpson: so it's rwxr-xr-x or something like that?02:07
epimethcheck your fxtab... sure you have the exec option for the partition you are using?02:07
epimethBartSimpson:  ^02:07
epimethBartSimpson: fstab, not fxtab... heh02:07
BartSimpsonhmm Jucato: yep, and epimeth: i think you have something there, i have my /home on a seperate partition and i dont think i have exec option02:07
Number2Jucato any odea on how to change the permissions of all the contents under a directory?02:08
Jucatohm...02:08
epimethw00t! epimeth: 1, jucato: ...... 999999999<E>99902:08
JucatoNumber2: you can do it in Konqueror or chmod -R02:08
JucatoO.o02:08
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kroudycan anyone help :-)02:09
epimethhmmmm... while the transparency thing in beryl is cute, it doesn't really *do* anything, eh?02:10
Jucatokroudy: that depends on the size of your panel. different panel sizes use different kmenu.png icon sizes02:10
Jucatoepimeth: it does some technical opmitizations to window rendering if that counts02:10
BartSimpsonyep i had copied it directly from the ubuntu page which said /dev/hdb3 /home ext3 nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0, so i changed that noexec to exec... now is there a way to refresh the filesystem without restarting>02:11
epimethactually, yea... I noticed that things look a bit different02:11
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epimethBartSimpson: probably..... but you should log out of your user first02:11
BartSimpsonhmm02:12
epimethbut if you're already logging out, might as well restart02:12
BartSimpsonok02:12
Jucatosince it involves your /home...02:12
Aloneaoh, my battery thing in the taskbar has dissapeared and its NOT listed in the add applet to panel02:12
BartSimpsonthank you all for the help02:12
epimethBartSimpson: no worries02:12
JucatoAlonea: try to run "guidance-power-manager"02:13
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epimethanybody using beryl?  I wanna know if there's a general problem with the settings manager or if its just BOTH of my boxes02:13
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AloneaJucato: it claims this isn't a laptop...wtf?02:14
Jucatooh... that's beyond my knowledge now..02:14
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Jucatoer.. rather "doesn't have"02:15
epimethlol02:15
Aloneawell, my computer looks like a laptop to me. *lifts it in air and stares at bottom* yup. appears to be a laptop to me, but apparently my computer knows better than I02:15
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epimethAlonea: edgy?02:18
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Aloneaepimeth: yeah02:18
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Aloneaepimeth: and it was there...02:18
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cyanid3I acccidentally did a recursive chmod -R 444 . in the root directory....  Is there a way to fix this?02:20
cyanid3I mean74402:20
cyanid3i can't access any of the binaries (sudo, chmod, ls...) anyone ever made this mistake?02:21
HirvinenHeh.02:22
HirvinenBoot from a live cd and then mount that drive and fix the permissions from there02:22
epimethcyanid3: sure... and I never did again02:23
epimethcyanid3: good luck :-)02:23
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Hirvinencyanid3: Or back up and do a fresh install. Some of those permissions may be crucial for system security, and getting all of them right is an untrivial task.02:24
intelikeyperms where ?02:25
Jucatointelikey: <cyanid3> I acccidentally did a recursive chmod -R 444 . in the root directory....  Is there a way to fix this?02:25
Hirvinencyanid3: Actually, you may want to try and see if reinstalling all packages would return those permissions to their original states.02:25
intelikeyshort answer is no.02:26
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epimethAlonea: I've been googling... not helpful... I *did* however browse the script...02:30
intelikeylong answer is "if you can boot a live CD and have the information of the perms on each inode it can be done.   however doing so is as hirvinen said an untrivial task"02:30
epimethAlonea: seems like it considers anything with a primary battery to be a laptop02:30
epimethAlonea: I *really* don't know how to go around checking if you do /why you don't /how you fix it02:30
epimethintelikey: I guess it would be possible to create a perl script to do it...02:30
Aloneaepimeth: ok, well, this isn't the first time I have had this system and when I redid it recently the battery icon was there and then suddenly it dissapeared and never came back, so it did work at some point...@@02:30
epimethintelikey: and it would probably be pretty short, too02:30
epimethintelikey: in fact, a simple "find" command might do it as well02:31
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cyanid3so maybe an apt-get dist-upgrade?02:31
cyanid3i dont know02:31
intelikeyyes or shell script.  but having the listed perms is the issue.02:31
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cyanid3we'll see i guess02:31
cyanid3i just got done looking at it02:31
cyanid3it's not worth it02:31
epimethcyanid3: like was said, a live disk02:31
epimethcyanid3: that wasn't for you ^, it was for intelikey02:32
cyanid3i booted into single user grub mode and I'm just going to scp things over to another box02:32
epimethcyanid3: at least you didn't $rm -r *02:32
cyanid3haha02:32
cyanid3that's true02:32
epimethcyanid3: learn for next time02:32
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epimethI can't tell you how many times I went $rm -r *02:33
cyanid3yeah, i've been using linux for around 6 years and i heard stories all the time02:33
epimethOH WAIT!02:33
intelikeyepimeth might as well have.  now he has unusable files and dirs....02:33
epimethWhat directory was I in again?02:33
cyanid3i just never figured i'd actually do it02:33
epimeth:-)02:33
cyanid3lack of sleep + being in a hurry is not a good combo02:33
cyanid3take it easy all02:33
epimethintelikey: yea, but at least his files are still there...02:33
epimethyou too!02:33
epimethintelikey: you on beryl?02:34
intelikeyepimeth no02:34
intelikeyepimeth "files still being there" would only be a plus on things stored in ~02:34
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epimethintelikey: yea... thats what I meant02:37
epimethwas the "no" about beryl?02:37
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intelikeyyes the no was about beryl02:37
epimeth:-(02:37
epimethdunno why the settings won't open....02:37
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epimethhow about locales, know anything about them?02:38
intelikeythat must have been a bad one. they are air lifting the victom02:39
epimeth?02:39
intelikeyepimeth i know that libc6 depands on the package locales    and i wish it didn't.02:39
epimethand what was that about a victim?02:40
epimethwhy do you wish it didn't?02:40
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intelikeyvictom. local insodent.   why. cause they update the package seems like often and i don't even use it per'se so it eats band narrowness.02:41
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epimeth"per se" hehe....02:46
epimeth"wait a second!  nothing works anymore!  damn you libc6!!!!"02:46
epimeth:-p02:46
intelikeyyou like  pur say.02:46
intelikey?  :)02:46
HrontoreHas any one here gotten Cs or steam to work on Kubuntu02:46
Hrontore?02:46
epimethI don't even know what those are.... sorry02:46
Hrontorecounter strike02:46
Hrontoreguess not02:46
epimethI know people have02:46
Hrontorewhere are the forums for kubuntu?02:46
podecredo anybody knows a good package for kubuntu 6.06???02:46
epimethpodecre: what do you mean?02:46
intelikeyepimeth i was talking about locales not libc6 that i don't use.   lang is set to C  so locales is moot.02:46
epimethhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/02:46
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epimethintelikey: just laugh, damn you!!!!02:46
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SlynderdaleOn ubuntu edgy, you can use sudo apt-get install kubuntu to install the Unbuntu KDE interface and programs?02:46
epimethhttp://www.kubuntuforums.net02:46
epimethintelikey: no... this would be cursing you:02:46
intelikeySlynderdale kubuntu-desktop02:46
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Aloneawell, this is interestint, when I do acpi-b I get No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path ("/proc/acpi").02:47
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Aloneacould this be why my battery thing isn't working?02:47
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epimethAlonea: I haven't a clue... sorry02:48
epimethAlonea: probably... I just $acpi02:48
epimethAlonea: and got a message saying 100% battery02:48
Hirvinenintelikey: Well, having the files in /etc is a big plus as well.02:48
Aloneaepimeth: apparently I dont have it.02:49
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epimeth!acpi02:49
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)02:49
epimethtry installing it!02:49
podecreepimeth: I'm trying to download some programs and I can't because of the packages I hve here02:49
intelikeyHirvinen only for referances not for use.02:49
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epimethpodecre: what programs?02:50
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intelikeyHirvinen lots of them require special perms.   as far as use is concerned the ones in /bin /sbin are more usefull now.  just chmod 755 the files and dirs and they will work for the most part.02:51
podecreepimeth: amsn, beryl02:51
Hirvinenintelikey: Of course, but having the contents is the important part.02:52
epimethpodecre: and what happens when you try to install amsn?02:52
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beta!flash02:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:52
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash02:52
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intelikeydepending on how "non-default" it is.02:52
Hirvinen... when reinstalling the system.02:52
epimethspeaking of backports.... what *are* they???02:53
podecreepimeth: shows that the program is broken02:53
Hirvinenintelikey: Well, if one reinstalls the same software then what problems would the use of same config files cause, assuming versions don't change.02:53
intelikeythings released after the os but ported to work on it.02:53
Hirvinen!backports | epimeth02:53
ubotuepimeth: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports02:53
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epimethpodecre: how?  what, exactly, happens when you try to install amsn?02:54
intelikeyHirvinen permissions.   configs have perms too.02:54
podecreepimeth: wait a minute I'm busy02:54
Hirvinenintelikey: Yes, but I was talking about the importance of having their contents that can be then moved to the reinstalled files that have the correct permissions.02:55
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epimethohmygod.... I'm totally enabling backports... it sounded scary so I left it commented out :-)02:55
intelikeyHirvinen and so was i.   see above ^02:56
Aloneaok, how do I edit the kernel in kubuntu?02:56
epimethpodecre: kay....02:56
Jucatoepimeth: it's the only way to get Flash 9 and Sun Java 6 on Edgy (from the repos at at least)02:56
intelikeyAlonea ?02:57
epimethAlonea: the same way you edit it in any linux distro!02:57
epimethAlonea: as in... you probably don't want to :-)02:57
Aloneaepimeth: ok, need to look up how again, I forgot how...02:57
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BluesKajor shouldn't :)02:57
Aloneaintelikey: i dont have acpi or apm support....02:58
intelikeymodprobe02:58
intelikeydon't reinvent the wheel   just drive the car.02:58
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Aloneaintelikey: I dont have a battery status thing anymore and that one guidance thing says I dont have a laptop02:58
Aloneaintelikey: modprobe what?02:58
intelikeyacpi-cpufreq  acpi_sbs      acpiphp       acpiphp_ibm02:59
epimethbut damnit, this car is like, 20 years old!02:59
intelikey?02:59
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intelikeymodprobe apm02:59
Aloneaintelikey: FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): Device or resource busy02:59
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Aloneaintelikey: FATAL: Module acpi_sbs not found.03:00
Aloneaintelikey: FATAL: Error inserting acpiphp (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug/acpiphp.ko): Operation not permitted  (i did sudo all of these_03:00
Aloneaintelikey: FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): Operation not permitted03:01
Trickserhi, the adept updater becomes stalled "Waiting for headers 99%" after trying to retrieve the list of software packages... What could be the problem?03:01
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Justinalfhmm, are all your repositories in order03:01
Justinalfif you have a broken link it could lag03:02
TrickserI must press "Cancel download" and then I get the list, but i am not sure about the problem03:02
Justinalfdid you add anything to the repos?03:02
Justinalfi had this same problem whenever I added Beryl to my repos03:02
Aloneaintelikey: thats why I wanted to check the settings in the kernel and see if its enabled or not..03:03
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Trickseri changed the repository some months ago, but it worked well03:03
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Justinalfhmm03:03
intelikeyAlonea you never asked about "checking" you asked about "changing" them.   less /boot/config-[tab] 03:04
Aloneaintelikey: well,I was certainly going to change if they were not03:04
Justinalfhow long does this go on for?03:04
podecreepimeth: Sorry I was talking to my girlfriend hehe03:04
intelikeyAlonea not there you wont.03:04
Trickseractually i updated it based on a ubuntu wiki03:04
intelikeyAlonea only way to change that is compile from source03:05
Trickserbut I think maybe this repository could be problematic: http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf03:05
Justinalftry removing it then updating03:05
epimethpodecre: "busy", eh?  "talking", eh?  is that what you kids call it these days?03:05
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Aloneaintelikey: okay, and I did that on slack..and i did once somehow a long time ago when I needed to add hardware to the list for something.03:05
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JucatoTrickser: PLF isn't working for Edgy. so might as well disable that repository03:06
Aloneaintelikey: except for i didn't have to download the kernel source or anything..at least I dont remember doing that ever03:06
podecreepimeth: I was at the telephone ^03:06
Aloneaintelikey: except for when I did it on slack03:06
JustinalfI'd try that03:06
intelikeyso if you are set on doing that (i still don't think you want or need to) either go to http://www.kernel.org and dl the source or use   the packagemanager of your choice and install a linux-source  and get to building.03:06
Trickserjucato: yes, thanks, it was the problem ;-)03:07
epimethpodecre: yea, yea...03:07
podecreepimeth:03:07
TrickserJustinalf: thanks03:07
podecreepimeth: heheh03:07
Justinalfno problem03:07
intelikeyJucato is it the whole plf or only edgy ?03:07
JucatoI think Edgy only03:08
intelikeyk03:08
podecreepimeth: I'm beginner at Linux and I'm trying to download amsn but the download never finishes03:08
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JucatoI'm not sure if they'll be supporting Feisty too03:08
intelikeyk03:08
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epimethpodecre: how are you trying to install it, what, *exactly* are you doing?03:08
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Aloneaintelikey: ok, according to make xconfig thing its on...I am lost as to why it wont see my computer as a laptop and why it wont work03:09
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podecreepimeth: sudo apt-get install amsn03:09
intelikeyAlonea me too but i told you it was there in the default kernels03:09
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Aloneaintelikey: well APM isn't.03:10
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intelikeyAlonea how old is that lappy ?03:10
epimethpodecre: and what happens when you do this03:10
Aloneaintelikey: a year and 3 days03:10
intelikeydoes it have apm rather than acpi ?03:10
intelikeyoh well not likely then.03:10
Trickseran other question, is it possible to easily view the change log of a package without diggint out in launchpad or something like that?03:10
intelikeyand i think they depreciated apm03:11
smeyercan someone help me out with sound problem that i am haveing plz03:11
Aloneaintelikey: have no idea, but maybe apm would work?03:11
intelikeycause anything above an 80486 has acpi03:11
podecreepimeth: a lot of texts starts to pass in my windows and when it stopps I receive a message like E: Broken packages03:11
Aloneaintelikey: well, it doesnt say deprecated anywhere on here03:11
podecreepimeth: my system is in portuguese so I don't know if this message is the same that the message in English03:12
ffffuhi03:12
epimethpodecre: what sources are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list ?03:13
podecrebr-archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/03:13
intelikeyAlonea maybe it would work.   but acpi "should"   you may need different chipset support inserved.   that can cause odd problems.   might build an initramfs.img without the chipset that is now in use and see what it comes up with...   if it wont boot you can use the one you are using now...  (assuming you use a unique name)03:14
intelikeyinserved/inserted   even.03:14
Aloneaintelikey: ok, that confuses me. all I know is that it used to work the last time I had kubuntu (had to reformat and reinstall) and it worked at first on here. not sure when it stopped.03:14
epimethpodecre: have you tried manually downloading one of the packages?03:15
intelikeysounds like the initramfs.img to me Alonea03:15
intelikeyAlonea man mkinitramfs03:15
podecreepimeth: no I didn't03:16
Aloneaintelikey: oh, forgot to say that there isn't an acpi folder/file in /proc03:16
intelikeyi say if you do an   lsmod > list1     boot the old image and do   lsmod > list2   ;diff list1 list2    you will see the answer.03:17
intelikeyAlonea ^03:17
Aloneaintelikey: its in /etc and /usr/share/doc though03:17
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Aloneaand usr/src/linux-headers...03:18
epimethpodecre: what version of ubuntu you using?  edgy?03:18
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podecreepimeth: I only know that is Kubuntu 6.0603:18
epimethpodecre: okay03:19
intelikeyAlonea /exec -o cat /proc/cmdline03:20
epimethpodecre: 6.06 = dapper03:20
yvetteI'm trying to set up KMail to use KWallet, but not having any luck. Any ideas?03:20
podecreepimeth: hummmm I saw it somewhere hehehe03:20
intelikeyin here Alonea03:20
Aloneaintelikey: ok, exec isnt a file or directory03:20
intelikeyin here03:21
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Aloneaintelikey: in irc? says exec unknown command03:21
podecreepimeth: what's the difference between edgy and dapper?03:21
intelikeyyes03:21
intelikeyok03:21
mervteckanyone here any good with Cedega?03:22
intelikeymost irc clients can be used as a shell interface... yours doesn't see to do that.03:22
Ash-Fox!cedega03:22
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega03:22
intelikeyAlonea in a shell then      cat /proc/cmdline03:22
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Aloneaintelikey: I am using chatzilla. only one that I really like so far03:22
Ash-Foxmervteck, you'll probably want #cedega03:22
mervteckthey never answer =\03:23
mervteckthere more dead then the wine channel and the wine channel is a bunch of dicks, excuse my language03:23
Ash-FoxYou just called me something :(03:23
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intelikeynet split      YAY !03:26
epimethmass exodus!!!!03:26
epimethdamn... people got offended :-)03:27
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intelikey!language03:27
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:27
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intelikeybot is still here03:27
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Tm_Thmm, I wonder what server did drop off03:28
Aloneaintelikey: root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash acpi=off noapic nolapic  (btw, the noacpic and stuff is there because I cannot shut down my computer due to the binary drivers for my video card. since that doesn't work either, i can take that off of there.03:28
Aloneaintelikey: ok, I put my boot how it was. any ideas on how to fix my shutdown? half the time not even shutdown -h now works.03:28
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yvettekwallet question? Someone? (other than a bot)?03:28
epimethyvette: what is it?03:28
Tm_Tyvette: you haven't asked the question yet?03:28
intelikey:)03:28
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Tm_Toh you have, my bad03:29
yvetteargh ... can;t type...03:29
yvettei'm trying to get my wife's email working (she's yvette, not me).03:29
Tm_Tyvette: it didn't ask it at first time?03:29
yvettei moved from pclos to kubuntu 6.1003:29
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intelikeyAlonea can't get acpi to work,     wonder why ?    "root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash acpi=off noapic nolapic (btw, the noacpic and stuff is there because I cannot shut down my computer due to the binary drivers for my video card.           he he he ...03:30
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yvetteit did, but i didn't set it (didn't want to wake her at 4:00am to ask her password).03:30
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yvettenow i can't figure how to get it to use kwallet.03:30
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Tm_Tyvette: awww, and if you readd account?03:30
epimethintelikey: not nice making fun of ppl who aren't here03:30
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epimeth:-p03:30
beta!nvidia03:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:31
yvetteit asks for the password, as usual.03:31
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yvetteemail works, i just don't know how to get it to use kwallet again.03:31
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intelikeyepimeth not my fault he exited as soon as he posted...03:31
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Tm_Tyvette: well, iirc it asks it only when adding account, but don't know really :)03:31
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yvettei tried removing the old account and starting a new one, but that didn't help.03:32
epimethintelikey: lol03:32
yvette(Both Send and Receive)03:32
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Tm_Tyvette: hmm, too harsh to remove all kmail settings?03:32
yvetteWhich settings? I don't want to lose all her email folders, lots of stuff there.03:32
intelikeyepimeth i assure you i would have posted the same </snickering> remark had he been here...  :)03:33
yvetteI tried looking at the kontactrc file, didn't see any clues in there.03:33
yvettei fiddled with kwalletrc, no luck there, either.03:33
barroshi.. probably this was already answered, but, when will feisty be released?03:33
Tm_Tyvette: hmm hmm03:33
Tm_Tyvette: open kwalletmanager03:34
Jucatobarros: April 20+03:34
yvetteit;s open03:34
Jucato!feisty > barros03:34
Tm_Tyvette: and access control doesn't give solution?03:34
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verboseis there a list of apt repositories somewhere03:34
yvette'access control'? What setting is that?03:35
barrosJucato: thanks.. I think I'll wait it.. I want to reinstall my system..03:35
yvetteoops... let me look...03:35
Tm_Tverbose: almost like asking "is there list of internet sites somewhere?" if you don't define what kind of repostitories you need03:35
Tm_Tyvette: in kwalletmanager03:35
Jucatobarros: Feisty is entering beta this weekend03:35
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yvettekmail and kontact are 'always allow', don't see any way to change that.03:35
yvette(other than delete)03:36
intelikey!repos | verbose03:36
ubotuverbose: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:36
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Aloneawierd..irc took ages to load03:36
Tm_Tyvette: hmm, interesting, try #kde ?03:36
yvetteok, thanks.03:37
yvette-oo-03:37
intelikeyrepost for Alonea's sake, alonea can't get acpi to work,     wonder why ?    "root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash acpi=off noapic nolapic (btw, the noacpic and stuff is there because I cannot shut down my computer due to the binary drivers for my video card.           he he he ...03:37
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Aloneaintelikey: hush...*pouts* any ideas though on shutdown?03:37
epimethpodecre: http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/amsn/amsn_0.95-1_i386.deb03:38
intelikeyAlonea have you tried init 0   in place of using the halt commands dirrectly ?03:38
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Aloneaintelikey: er, what do you mean?03:38
intelikeysudo init 903:38
intelikeyooops03:39
intelikeysudo init 003:39
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podecreepimeth thanks!03:39
epimethhow about 6?  anybody tried init 6? >:-)03:39
epimethpodecre: not saying it'll work :-)03:39
epimethpodecre: try it tho....03:39
intelikeythat's reboot epimeth03:39
epimethintelikey: what I meant is did anybody try setting their auto init to that.... :-(03:40
intelikeyyes i have.  i have ran in runlevel 6 on this box03:40
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podecreepimeth: thanks a lot I have to go now!03:41
intelikeyi have setup 12 runlevels and i have setup 2 runlevels.  run was 0 and reboot was 1    heh03:41
epimethpodecre: adios03:41
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podecreepimeth: In Brazil we say Tchau! hehehe03:42
epimeth*that* is for being smart03:42
epimethepimeth: in argentina we say adios!03:42
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Tm_Tnot me03:42
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Aloneaintelikey: ok, that worked. completely shut down. changed my little homemade button to that command instead.03:42
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epimethit's him!03:43
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intelikeyAlonea anything else ?03:43
danzicrimsun: Hello03:43
epimethwho's crimsun?03:44
Aloneaintelikey: well, other than my rockbox wont compile and rockboxdev.sh is telling me stranger things its ok, though I do wish my regular shutdown buttons worked.03:44
intelikey/whois crimsun03:44
intelikeyAlonea you installed  "build-essential" ?03:45
intelikeydon't compile without it....03:45
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Skreech!sound03:48
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:48
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epimethis there any point in dling herd 5?  beta is coming out this weekend, right?03:49
Admiral_Chicagoepimeth: thursday yes03:49
epimethAdmiral_Chicago: sir, thank you, sir, admiral, sir!03:50
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owneramaroK shuffels throught my playlist very fast for some reason, anyone know why that is?03:50
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Admiral_Chicagolol03:50
Admiral_Chicagoowner: can't play the files03:50
Skreechowner: MP3s?03:50
ownerya, MP303:50
Admiral_Chicagodo you have libxine-extracodecs installed03:50
owneri'll check,, i think so03:51
intelikeyowner two normal caused   format not supported   and output device not writable (wrong device)03:51
intelikeycauses   ^03:51
Skreechowner: You would know if you installed it :)03:51
intelikey!mp3 > owner03:52
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ownerya03:53
ownerlibxine....not in adept manager03:53
Skreechowner: read what ubotu just pmed to you03:53
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owneri have read those 3 links before03:54
Aloneaintelikey: oh, and where is that file that has the paths in it?03:54
intelikey<Alonea> intelikey: oh, and where is that file that has the paths in it?03:55
intelikey-:- SignOff Alonea: #kubuntu (Remote closed the connection)03:55
intelikeyhow are you supposed to answer that  ?03:55
MikeC2Heya, for somereason my apt-get base system is acting all wierd, It wont install anything03:55
Skreechowner: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/soureces.list03:55
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intelikeyMikeC2 can you pastebin your /etc/apt/soureces.list03:56
ownergive me a sec...this is only a 500mgz CPU03:56
intelikeylot faster than mine.03:56
intelikey100mhz03:56
Alonea_intelikey: ok, my irc has gone screwy...if you have said anything to me after you asked anything else, I never got it03:56
intelikeyAlonea_ only said how do i answer when you ask and leave...03:57
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MikeC2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11290/03:58
Alonea_intelikey: ok, wierd. I never actually left...actually it says that "alonea" is already taken...03:58
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ownerxfmedia can play the songs....just amaroK cannot and neither can Kaffeine03:58
intelikeyAlonea_ there are three files.   /etc/environment   the main system wide path can be in there     /etc/profile   the system wide shell path should be in there.   and  ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_bashrc   the user specific path should be in there.03:58
Skreech!paste03:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:59
intelikeyone can make and use    ~/.profile     also...03:59
Alonea_intelikey: also it seems my posts after that never made it here either03:59
intelikeyi know i said three and named five  but you only have three of them.03:59
Alonea_intelikey: nm on that.03:59
Alonea_ok, after I did rockboxdev.sh, this is what it reported. Is this abnormal any? it seems different from the last time i did it. http://pastebin.ca/40449304:00
c0nv1ctintelikey: you forgot ~/.bash_profile :P04:00
Alonea_intelikey: dunno if this will make any sense to you since I dont think you have rockbox, but this is what it said at the end, http://pastebin.ca/404493.04:00
Alonea_intelikey: those were things I had said...04:00
Alonea_intelikey: I refigured out the path thing.04:00
MikeC2intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11290/ it just locks up while waiting for headers04:00
intelikeyc0nv1ct while a path can be set there it is more app specific than all the others.04:00
c0nv1ctintelikey: its user-specific really04:01
intelikeyyes and only bash login shells will read it04:01
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intelikeyiirc04:01
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c0nv1ctintelikey: yeah, hence the "bash" in bash_profile04:01
sethdoes anyone know how to share an NTFS partition with samba?04:02
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intelikeybut not any bash.  bash logins04:02
Ickin leeenux?04:02
sethyep04:02
epimethseth: you don't share partitions, you share folders04:02
epimethseth: just mount the partiton and add its info to samba04:02
sethlet me rephrase04:02
c0nv1ctseth: and you would share that folder with samba like any other on your system04:02
sethI have a usb drive formated ntfs and mounted using ntfs-3g, there is a folder in it i would like to share, I have samba installed and it can share any folder not on this drive however with this drive i receive an error when trying to share a folder on it04:04
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intelikeyAlonea_ makes perfect sense to me.     you want to add     PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin"    to one of the files that will be read in by all apps.    /etc/profile   would be a good choice.04:04
seththe error is as follows: An error occurred while trying to share folder '/home/seth/portable/Media'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root.04:04
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Alonea_intelikey: thats the bad thing though...I have done the path and it still wont work04:05
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intelikeyAlonea_ i would never add such a convoluted path...  i'd make symlinks in /usr/local/bin   to what ever is in those dirs.         that's only read on login   not mid session....04:06
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bkudriai'm using (k)networkmanager, but it doesn'y show my wireless device (i have a broadcom card that i must use ndiswrapper with, it creates eth1). i can use my wireless device fine (scanning with wlassistant) but network manager does not detect it...why?04:06
sethanyone know of samba having an issues sharing from ntfs partitions?04:06
intelikeyAlonea_ symlinks will work without reloging in04:06
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intelikeyusing linux to share a windows fs with windows boxes.... what will they think of next...04:07
laptopHow do I get embedded video working in my Firefox??? esp. embedded wmv04:07
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intelikey!mp3 | laptop04:08
ubotulaptop: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:08
Jucatolaptop: install "mozilla-mplayer"04:08
laptopin syanptic?04:08
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intelikeyyes04:08
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Alonea_intelikey: well, I never had to do i t before...it was just, export path that and thats it04:09
sethwell04:09
MikeC2are the repos down or something?04:09
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sethi have the usb drive formated ntfs for using it between multiple pcs running linux and windows04:09
sethnow i want to simply share a folder on my machine with a vm i have running04:10
intelikeyAlonea_ i didn't say it wouldn't work with the path added.  just that i would never add such a convoluted path04:10
sethvmware player doesn't support share folderes04:10
sethso samba seemed like the only way to do it04:10
sethunfortunatly samba doesn't seem to be able to share from "fuse" or "ntfs" filesystems04:11
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intelikeyi suppose one could  export PATH=$(for Q in `find / -type d 2>/dev/null` ;do echo -e "$Q:\c" ;done)        if'n they wanted to... but it's sure not a good idea.04:12
laptopmozilla-mplayer was already installed04:13
laptopSTILL cant get this video to work http://poststuff2.entensity.net/031907/media.php?media=kyledunnigan.wmv04:14
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Alonea_intelikey: methinks people in rockbox are just as baffled as I am.04:14
mrignslaptop: vid works for me04:15
intelikeyhehhe i just ran that export for kicks.     i have one console with a path that it takes 3 minutes to display and it scrolls 9 pages    hehhe04:16
marediaguys how can I get my touch pad scroll mouse to work. It works but does not scroll up or down04:16
intelikeylaptop it the format.04:16
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Noobhi all04:18
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Noobcan anyone lend a bit of advice04:18
Noobim having nix probs04:18
Noobits with WEP and nix04:18
Skreech!wep04:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:18
Noobi can connect wirelessly with my nix box w/o WEP04:19
Noobbut the min i enable WEP it cant do it04:19
Noobany ideas?04:19
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Noobi want a secure connection04:19
Skreechintelikey: that page has a wep page04:19
Noobk ill check it out04:20
Noobthanks04:20
laptopYES04:20
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intelikeydat don't mean i know squat about it....04:20
laptopIn UBUNTU you have to put any in the essid04:20
laptopput ANY in the ESSID box04:20
Alonea_ok, my computer just did a baaaad thing. I was looking at the gcc pkgs installed and an old one was on even though newer ones were installed and when I removed it, it also removed fglrx. why did it do that?04:20
Skreechintelikey: Yeah so point sir Noob at it and you both learn :)04:21
intelikeycause you removed a dpendancy.04:21
ContrastMy guess would be that version of GCC was required to compile FGLRX and/or kernel modules.04:21
intelikeySkreech not i.04:21
Noobsomeone called?04:21
intelikeyno hardware.04:21
ContrastOr simply put, what intellkey said. :D04:21
Alonea_intelikey: but why would an old version be a dependency? cant it use gcc 4.x ?04:22
intelikeyContrast the path thing   lol  yeah04:22
Contrast?04:22
intelikeyAlonea_ idk dependancies are a mistery to me.  why libc6 depends on locales   is a good example04:23
Noobi tried all that in the trouble shooting04:23
SkreechNoob: Nope :)04:23
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Noobcouldnt find an answer04:23
laptoptelling you I tried everything under the sun for my wifi04:23
ContrastOr why Democracy Player depends on the Mozilla browser and HTML composer. -_~04:23
laptopuntil I figured out to put the word "ANY" in the essid space04:23
Nooblaptop: you talking to me?04:24
ContrastAlonea_:, what method did you use to remove them?04:24
intelikeyyes  or why anything depends on zlib104:24
Alonea_Contrast: adept...04:24
laptopJust that you need to do that04:24
laptopif you are using wifi with ubuntu04:24
ContrastGet Synaptic. ;-)04:24
intelikeyor should i say everything depends on zlib104:24
Alonea_Contrast: I thought it was interfering with me trying to compile rockbox.04:24
Noobwill that look for literally ANY wifi in the area? there are like 10 essid's around my place04:25
ContrastIt shows you all the changes before ever applying anything. Less chance of anything getting FUBAR.04:25
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intelikeyContrast yes or use apt  it does the same04:25
ContrastRight...04:26
ContrastSpeaking of Synaptic and apt-get, is there an easy equivalent of apt-get's autoremove function in Synaptic?04:26
Alonea_uh oh...fglrx wont install now i dont think...04:28
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intelikeyContrast autoremove ?   or autoclean ?04:28
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intelikeymoot cause i can't answer anyway04:29
Alonea_ok, come one..install please!04:29
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Alonea_noooo...CHIKUSO!!!04:29
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ContrastAutoremove04:30
ContrastI've caught autoclean trying to remove stuff I want too many times.04:31
intelikeyautoclean only does rm /var/cache/apt/archives/* 2>/dev/null     that's all it does.04:31
Alonea_ok, debs were still there...it still might work...come on kami. work for me.04:32
Jucatokami-sama?04:32
ContrastMaybe I'm confused then. I guess I was thinking of Synaptic's remove orphaned packages feature.04:32
Alonea_YES! kami-sama is nice to me today!04:33
intelikeywell no clean does that autoclean does a more complex rm of only outdated packages... sorry my bad.04:33
Alonea_Jucato: I resort to partial japanese when frustrated...04:33
Jucatodoshite?04:33
Jucato:)04:34
Alonea_Jucato: have no idea really...04:34
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Alonea_Jucato: helps when I dont want to offend our dear english speakers.04:34
intelikey:)04:34
Jucatohehe04:34
Jucatokisama!04:35
Alonea_Jucato: its like, I took it for a couple years and I forgotten quite a bit of it, but not enough to where I don't half slip into04:35
ContrastWhat I mean is, when removing a program in Synaptic that I installed, which automatically installed packages to meet its dependencies. is there a way to automatically remove that packages dependencies along with the program I'm removing? Sorry, I know that's worded terribly. I can give an example if needed. :)04:35
JucatoI haven't taken it at all.... anyway, getting offtopic so I'll censor myself :)04:35
Alonea_lol, tis ok04:35
Contrastremove that package'*s04:35
Jucatoapt-get has that feature already. autoremove. and aptitude has had that for quite some time04:36
ContrastI know. I'm asking whether Synaptic has that feature. ;-)04:36
intelikeyJucato so does synaptic ???04:36
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JucatoI thought it would, since it's using apt-get as the backend...04:37
Jucatobut haven't used any GUI PM for quite some time.. so not exactly sure04:37
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intelikeywe've ruined him.04:37
Jucatowho ruined who?04:37
SkreechYou04:38
intelikeywell i didn't start using a gui.....  ;/04:38
Jucatoheh no. I've always preferred aptitude the moment I learned about it04:38
Jucatobut Adept is slowly (emphasis on *slowly*) catching up04:38
ContrastJucato, speaking of package management, I figured I'd let you know Trevino's and Seveas' Edgy repo's appear to be working fine for Feisty (We briefly discussed Feisty repo's the other night).04:39
JucatoContrast: ah good04:39
ContrastThe only thing I had a slight, and easily resolvable problem with, was getting AviDemux installed. Just had to force the version from the official Feisty repo's.04:40
Trickserwhy the packages linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic are suspended in an edgy upgrade?04:41
Hasrat_USA1) would Edgy notify, instruct and urge me to automatically, easily and trustfully upgrade to Feisty when the latter's final and stable release gets released to the public? 2) would the current edgy users be able to magically upgrade both the kernel and OS by simply clicking once?04:41
JucatoHasrat_USA: 1) yes. there's a new dist-upgrade tool that will be installed on edgy (through edgy-updates) that will automate this process. no more manually editing sources.list04:42
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Jucato2) upgrade to new releases always means upgrading/installing new kernels. then see #1 for the simply clicking once question04:43
intelikeyawww no more nano the list file.... booo04:43
Hasrat_USAjucato: what if I don't want to either install that dist-upgrade tool or upgrade to Feisty, since I believe I wouldn't have a problem with Edgy for years to come without doing a single upgrade?04:44
Jucatointelikey: heh you can always do that... in fact you need to do that if you don't have adept installed04:44
intelikeyJucato !i  i'm sticking with the lts04:44
the-ermGPL = Gonna Pay Less04:44
ContrastHasrat, then no one's forcing you.04:44
Jucatoyou can cancel the upgrade notice I believe. but do remember that Edgy is only officially supported for 18 months. not years04:44
intelikeyremember i voted for long term support.   i04:45
intelikeyi'm gonna use it...04:45
Jucato:)04:45
JucatoI use what I need and what works for me. done deal :)04:45
Hasrat_USAJucato, so, should I assume that if I don't upgrade to Feisty, I will no longer receieve security and software upgrades?04:46
intelikeyband narrow ness   ya know.04:46
the-ermA friend of mine has a RAID SCSI controller has anyone ever managed to get kubuntu to boot from a setup similar to that?04:46
JucatoHasrat_USA: after Edgy's lifetime you won't. but as long as Edgy's supported, you will04:46
Alonea_how do you empty the trash as root? I am getting access denied04:46
Hasrat_USAIs edgy going to die the day Feisty is realased?04:46
Alonea_on some files that its trying to trash that is04:46
ContrastHasrat, nope.04:46
Hasrat_USAwhen is Edgy's lifetime going to meet its end?04:46
Contrast18 months from its release date.04:47
ContrastSame as with all non-long term support releases.04:47
JucatoHasrat_USA: April 200804:47
Hasrat_USAoh okay i'm going to find out Edgy's release date then04:47
Jucatowith the release of Kubuntu 8.0404:47
Hasrat_USAoh on april 2008 lol that's a long time04:47
intelikeyAlonea_ see Jucato for that.04:47
JucatoO.o04:47
JucatoI don't know...04:47
Alonea_lol!04:48
intelikeyyou don't know where kde puts it's trash ?04:48
JucatoI don't know why he's getting access denied errors04:48
Hasrat_USAwhat are you doing as ROOT?04:48
intelikeysure you do...   i'm the one that don't know.04:48
SkreechAlonea_: What are you trying to do?04:48
intelikey<Alonea_> how do you empty the trash as root? I am getting access denied04:48
Hasrat_USAalonea don't be rooting around :P04:48
Alonea_Skreech: when I try to empty my trash...ok, what he said04:48
Jucatointelikey:  <Alonea_> on some files that its trying to trash that is04:49
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Jucatothe problem here is that he's being denied from his own user's trash04:49
Alonea_Hasrat_USA: you cant log in as root on kubuntu...so I am not on root.04:49
intelikeyyep so   sudo rm ~/.local/trash/*   or where ever it is....04:49
Jucato~/.local/Trash04:50
SkreechAlonea_: are you emptying your trash as root or root's trash?04:50
Alonea_Skreech: no, I just clicked on the trash bucket and said to empty it04:50
Jucatotrying to empty his own trash normally, but getting access denied04:50
SkreechUmm04:51
SkreechHelp?04:51
intelikeyAlonea_ you can login as root "if" you set a root apsswd and enable kdm's root logins.   it's not that it can't be done, it's that it's not thought of as wise.04:51
SkreechAdept just threw an incorrect nice value04:51
Skreech Please enter a value between -19 and 2004:51
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Skreech with no way to enter that04:51
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cristhianogarciahi04:51
ContrastSkreech, I was getting that earlier today.04:51
SkreechContrast: Beautiful04:52
SkreechHow do I fix it?04:52
ContrastWell, I installed Synaptic and it was nonexistant. No biggie for me since I strongly prefer Synaptic anyway.04:52
SkreechBah04:53
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ContrastYou could do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see if it's still there.04:53
SkreechThat's what I did :)04:54
SkreechTo get it04:54
SkreechAlonea_: What is in your trash?04:54
ContrastTo get what?04:54
SkreechThe nice error04:55
Alonea_do I delete "trash" or whats in it?04:56
intelikeyat least it's a nice error ...04:56
intelikeywhat's in it Alonea_04:56
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intelikeyand Jucato corrected me, it's    sudo rm ~/.local/Trash/*04:56
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Alonea_Skreech: my rockbox source and the other folder it made when I did rockboxdev.sh. I wanted to start over again.04:56
crackhead_25!html04:56
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com04:56
intelikeysee i knew he knew.04:56
ContrastHave you seen the new Synaptic that's on Feisty, Skreech? It's got easy repo. filtering. Don't sleep. :-P04:57
SkreechEasy repo filtering?04:57
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ContrastYou know how Synaptic has that side bar for only viewing packages from certain sections (multimedia, games, etc.) or of certain statuses (broken, installed, not installed)?04:58
ContrastIt now has a listing of all the repo's in your sources.list. It's pretty handy for someone who's always checking out new repositories. Otherwise, pretty useless, I suppose.04:59
Alonea_ok, this is too hard to delete on the terminal.05:00
ffffuwhat apps can use to cut a video? i've got a 1.7 gb video trying to break it into 2 parts for faster loading05:00
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Contrastffffu, avidemux, kdenlive.05:00
Skreechany reads perl?05:01
Contrast?05:01
SkreechContrast: ah the new adept has something like that. It separates third party repos to a tab05:01
Skreechanyone reads perl?05:01
SkreechI'm trying to figure out this line05:01
Skreechdebug "db $this->{name}" => "trying to $command($item @_) ..";05:02
Contrast'Fraid not. Sorry. :-\05:02
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Alonea_@@...05:05
intelikeySkreech i'd send you to #perl  but the last time i was in there there were only three jackasses and alagator in there...05:05
Alonea_ok, now its saying one of the things its trying to delete doesn't exist...05:06
intelikeyi figured if that's what learinig perl makes out of you, i'd just skip it.05:06
intelikeyAlonea_ if it don't exist it can't take up space now can it ?05:08
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Alonea_intelikey: yes but my trashcan is still messed up...05:09
intelikeywhen you leave it alone it "should" release the link.05:09
Hasrat_USAfrom where can I buy Ubuntu/Kubuntu stickers, logos, shirts, caps etc?05:09
intelikeyif it's still hosed after you logout/in we'll talk05:10
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Hasrat_USAand a coffee mug also05:10
SkreechHasrat_USA: Good question05:10
Alonea_intelikey: I can't log out...only option is shutdown at the moment.05:10
Alonea_I cant log out, reboot,or anything on that menu after I installed binary drivers.05:10
SkullerSkreech: are you DaSkreech?05:11
SkreechYes05:11
Alonea_I will shutdown and come back after it finishes its thing for rockbox...05:12
Skullerok :)05:12
SkreechSkuller: #kubuntu-offtopic ? :-)05:12
SkullerSkreech: bug1??05:13
SkreechI guessed thats what you were on about05:13
Hasrat_USASkreech: because i have just observed that I have been using K/Ubuntu for more than three weeks and haven't restarted in the past 7 days ( 00:13:20 up 8 days,  1:54,  1 user,  load average: 0.23, 0.45, 0.65) and didn't boot to Winddoze in the past 4 months even for once but still I don't have any merchandise to prove to people that I am a fully linux convert now. also, the windows XP media center edition sticker is still attached to05:13
Hasrat_USAmy casing and tommorrow i'm going to scratch it off05:13
intelikeyHasrat_USA they will know by your speach...05:15
SkullerSkreech: i didnt come to discuss it (just came back from school). but wouldn't mind a discussion on it if you are interested :)05:15
Alonea_Hasrat_USA: heh. removed my sticker a while back too. as for paraphernalia http://www.ubuntu.com/products/merchandise05:15
Hasrat_USAAlonea_: did you burn it also or just flush it down the drain?05:16
Hasrat_USAi'm planning on sending it back to Mocosoft05:16
ContrastFree Powered by Ubuntu stickers to replace that hideous Windows propaganda: http://www.system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_6405:16
ContrastJust got mine in the mail a few days ago.05:16
Hasrat_USAit would cost me 39 cents05:16
Alonea_Hasrat_USA: lol, nah, I just chewed on it for a while and then stuck it in trash...05:17
Hasrat_USAthanks for the link. i'm checking it out now05:17
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ContrastThey sent a nice little strip of four. One each for my laptop and desktop, and two to stick on any converts I win over. >=)05:18
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Hasrat_USAcontrast you lucky bas___ :P05:18
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ContrastHehehe05:19
ContrastYou can get 'em too, y'know. ;-)05:19
intelikeyUnable to load the requested driver:05:19
intelikeyUnable to create the Foomatic driver [Lexmark-1020,lm1100] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.05:19
Alonea_I might get some too...05:19
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intelikeylooks like the updated package is still broken.   makes me wish i had neve enabled  updates and security repos ....05:20
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Hasrat_USAi already borrowed and read the whole 'the official ubuntu book' from Queens Library05:21
Skreech_Hasrat_USA: Good book05:21
Contrastintelikey, can't you force the previous version you had installed?05:21
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Hasrat_USASkreech nope05:21
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intelikeyContrast yes.  but they should fix the update.  this is LTS  ya know.05:22
Hasrat_USAskreech because i don't know why but the one i got was all about the version prior to Dapper05:22
Skreech_full of typos but whatever05:22
ContrastOhh, right. Forgot. :-D05:22
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gargothGood morning =)05:22
Hasrat_USAmorning gargoth05:22
ContrastHow often do they put out LTS releases? Every three years, I'm guessing?05:22
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Hasrat_USAif anyone wants to buy the book, he/she would do buy it only to showcase it I believe. there are books more better than that05:23
intelikeyContrast the installers version works then the update don't.    it's been that way sense before edgy came out.05:23
intelikeyContrast yeah should be three years05:23
gargothbtw, is there any online manual available for kubuntu?05:23
mrp193i am having trouble reading from my ntfs file system sata hard drive05:24
mrp193could anyone assist me?05:24
intelikeythe bug was a well known bug they fixed in breezy and reintroduced in dapper.   some body used the broken source to compile a update for dapper....05:24
gargothjust asking 'cos i am totally newb, when it comes to linux, probably 3'rd time i ever startup this =)05:24
v0taguzexist any driver for Nvidia 7100 GS on Kubuntu ?05:25
Skreech_gargoth: yes05:25
Hasrat_USAlol i don't even know where my NTFS drive is right now. of 160 GB i gave XP only 10 and the rest went to K/Ubuntu05:25
Contrastgargoth, you're off to a good start with asking where you can find answers yourself, rather than trying to get a quick fix. ;-)05:25
gargothmrp193: i am not 100% positive, but as far as i know, linux uses different file system than windows ntfs, unless there is some sort '05:25
gargothof driver available, i do not think it is possible05:25
intelikeyHasrat_USA sudo fdisk -l   if you want to know where it is.05:25
mrp193i was told it was possible05:25
ContrastKubuntu has a pretty extensive help utility - K Menu -> Help.05:25
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gargothCo05:26
Skreech_!man05:26
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands05:26
gargothContrast: hmm... never thought of that, maybe i am too tired x)05:26
Skreech_!ntfs05:26
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:26
Hasrat_USAintelikey: yeah I can do that but there is nothing, absolutely nothing on that except XP. can you believe that XP alone needs 2 GB and it doesn't even come with a free word processor?05:27
intelikeysure it does.  notepad05:27
intelikeyerr no that's not free either.05:27
Hasrat_USAthe only apps i would ever need to run are 1. flash 2 dreamweaver but i can run them two under wine. so, not thanks XP :)05:28
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Alonea_Hasrat_USA: I need to put my XP back on...I miss my games. dearly.05:28
ContrastDreamweaver runs perfectly, or close to it, under Wine?05:28
teufel__i need help with kppp the modem commands05:28
Alonea_Hasrat_USA: especially oblivion and guild wars05:28
gargothoh, and thanks ubotu, think those links will be quite helpful while getting used to this os.05:29
Hasrat_USAcontrast i haven't even installed wine yet. I'm thinking along the line of going for VMware05:29
intelikey!thanks | gargoth05:29
ubotugargoth: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)05:29
teufel__i need help with kppp the modem commands can someone help please05:30
gargothHasrat_USA: i installed it, and tried to play WoW, but.... laggy is the least i could descripe it =/05:30
teufel__!kppp05:30
ubotukppp: modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 667 kB, installed size 3688 kB05:30
Hasrat_USAAlonea i don't know about them. but unreal tournament, quak4, x-plane and many other high quality games have supported versions for linux05:30
gargothoh, now i feel stupid, it was a bot... :D05:30
aphroguyHasrat_USA: VMware is good, but you had better have a rock-solid system, it's a resource hog.  Not that you wouldn't expect hardware emulation software to be, but ya know.:-P05:30
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intelikeyteufel__ dialup ?05:30
teufel__yeah05:30
teufel__my friends comp05:30
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intelikeyteufel__ what exactly do you need ?05:30
Hasrat_USAgargoth: well things are improving day by day, considering the fact that developers aren't getting paid much money for whatever they are doing05:31
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intelikeyteufel__ oh and winmodems are a pain.05:31
teufel__got the modem set up all but the commands05:31
teufel__it queries to ready05:31
Hasrat_USAand i could care less about games05:31
Alonea_Hasrat_USA: yeah, I play UT2004 0n here. but i also miss some of my art programs. mostly Corel Painter XI.5 and the gimp will never be able to compete with what that thing can do. its awesome. (of course painter is for paint stuff)05:31
intelikey!modem05:31
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto05:31
intelikeyteufel__ ^05:31
teufel__i think i might have been here05:32
gargothHasrat_USA: amen to that, and if i understood correctly, there IS a way to get at least wow working with wine, requires some package downloading and possibly some other tricks, but i intended to see what i can do about it now, 'cos when i get some basic understanding, i'm so gonna scrap up Xp :P05:32
ContrastAlonea_, have you checked out Inkscape, Krita, or Karbon?05:32
Hasrat_USAalonea well unix and gnu/linux is basically thought/considered to be used by hardcore programmers/hackers/computer engineers etc etc and i don't know what a network administrator/hacker would do with a paint program lol05:33
teufel__like i need some help with the hsfmodem string commands05:33
intelikeyteufel__    sudo wvdialconf modem ;less modem05:33
intelikeydon't always work but lots of times that will help.05:33
Hasrat_USAwhy don't you just try to run corel under wine or vmwire?05:33
gargothonly reason i used windows as os until now, is the fact that i am a gamer, at least to some degree05:34
Alonea_Contrast: do you know what painter is exactly? its not really graphic manipulation. its basically a program meant to emulate actual paint. looks way cool. You can import pictures and take a brush and have it use the colors in the picture so you can make your picture look like a painting.05:34
intelikeyteufel__ and that's about as much as i can help in that area.05:34
teufel__ok hold up ill check it out05:34
Alonea_Contrast: I am also having a lot of trouble getting my wacom tablet to work with my system properly...05:35
Hasrat_USAgargoth i have seen folks playing WoW under Wine in full speed, believe me, on YouTube. and let me cite an example...i'm not lying but I have been running Beryl non-stop without reloading it even for once for 8 days ( i aint bragging either) and i have seen so many folks stating that their beryl crashed constantly05:35
Skreech_YMMV05:35
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=== BishiNightBird doesn't have any problems with beryl... other than I have to use Xgl to run it...
gargothhmm... pardon me for being bit stupid, but what is Beryl, Hasrat_USA ? (as said, newb i am)05:36
gargothwindows emulator?05:36
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BishiNightBirdI was having problems, but I'm using a daily cvs version...05:36
intelikey!worksforme | Hasrat_USA05:36
ubotuHasrat_USA: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:36
BishiNightBirdgargoth: no, it's eye candy for linux05:37
Skreech_!beryl05:37
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:37
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gargothBishiNightBird: ah, thx =)05:37
Hasrat_USAgargoth I'm 90 percent sure that given proper attention, research and time you would be able to do almost anything in GNU/Linux environment. remember that all other OSs, including MacOSx, Windows and blah blah LITERALLY emerged out of Unix. MacOSx is based on Unix and everyone knows that!05:37
intelikeyand yada, yada yada ydad...05:37
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Skreech_Hasrat_USA: Run a Virus05:37
gargothso far, my linux experience is: installed XMMS, know how to start up irssi and some basic commands...05:38
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gargothHasrat_USA: never used Mac ;D05:38
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gargothcall me limited x)05:38
DarkEDhow do i enable write support for NTFS in kubuntu 6.10?05:38
intelikeygargoth if you know some basic commands you are well ahead of the pack.05:38
gargothoh my :D05:38
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Hasrat_USAlol thanks for asking that question gargoth. i love to show people what beryl is :) http://youtube.com/watch?v=wpi36zV-JNo  My destkop running Ubuntu Edgy Eft (6.10) with XGL/Beryl05:38
DarkEDi'm not really writing to it, i just want to delete some files05:38
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Contrastgargoth:, he speaks the truth.05:39
ContrastI was that pack for longer than I care to admit. :-\05:39
Hasrat_USAgargoth I don't understand why you would have to use Mac if you are well-acquinted with Unix05:39
gargothblame my ex-gf, she practically kicked me into linux world xD05:39
intelikey!ntfs3g | DarkED05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
intelikey!ntfs05:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:39
intelikey!ntfs-3g | DarkED05:39
ubotuDarkED: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)05:39
DarkEDintelikey: thank you :)05:40
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intelikeynp05:40
ContrastMy ex-girlfriend picked up an Ubuntu Live CD they were handing out on her campus for me because she knew I'd been interested in Linux. Now she regrets it because I won't shut up about it. Lol05:40
gargoththat link, is quite useful for me too, since most of my data is still stored on NTFS disk ^05:40
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=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Skuller at Wed Mar 21 05:38:48 2007
=== BishiNightBird had a number of problems early on getting my linux install to work just right... and even now it's picky...
(Alonea_/#kubuntu) yes, there are other ways, but the point is, why should I have to make a bunch of buttons and work arounds to get something to work correctly?05:43
(gargoth/#kubuntu) Alonea_: ah, that tells too much, tried norton for about couple of days, replaced it first with sygate/avast! now in windows using kaspersky =)05:43
(BishiNightBird/#kubuntu) the main problem I have now is if I have it suspend....05:43
betaupdate manager is supposed to just bring security fixes and to upgrade installed packages right?05:43
beta!update05:43
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:43
=== intelikey reinstalled and tried really really really hard to leave everything default.... lasted two days before i broke and started editing in /etc lol
Hasrat_USAdid you see the video i wanted you to see, gargoth?05:43
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gargothwell, my main problem is hardware, totally, have 1.6GhZ duron 1gb of DDR and 128mb Geforce 4 ti. so...05:44
Hasrat_USABishiNightBird: you have ATI, right?05:44
ContrastAlonea_:, blame ATI for not having good Linux support. :-P05:44
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Alonea_oh, and thank kami for ndiswrapper!05:44
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Alonea_yes, but the no shutdown thing is a Ubuntu specific thing05:44
beta!updatemanager05:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about updatemanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
wiimangetting a weird message after installing05:45
gargothHasrat_USA: ye, watvhing it atm, impressive, to say the least =)05:45
wiiman"cannot run in framebuffer mode"05:45
ContrastOhh... :-X05:45
gargothwatching it *05:45
wiiman???05:45
wiimani cant startx when i hdd install but it will start from the cd05:45
Skreech_Alonea_: What's the current problem?05:45
Skreech_wiiman: Where are you now?05:46
Alonea_Skreech_: oh, I can't shutdown, reboot, etc. with the normal buttons. I have to make my own with sudo init #05:46
Hasrat_USAgargoth: now watch this...this is crazy and funny :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHAdVv6KFJc05:46
intelikeyimo default is nothing more than a starting point for configuring it the way you want.05:47
wiimanwhere am i?05:47
wiimani'm at root05:47
Admiral_Chicagowiiman: the intrawebs05:47
Admiral_Chicagooh wait...05:47
Admiral_Chicagoignore me.05:47
Skreech_Alonea_: Seriously? Which version of Kubuntu are you running?05:48
Skreech_wiiman: in the console?05:48
betacan someone answer me this update manager is supposed to bring only security fixes and upgrades not to install new packages?05:48
Alonea_Skreech_: its due to my binary drivers for my video card. its a bug that hasn't been fixed yet.05:48
wiimanum05:48
smeyerOk i am haveing problems with my sound i have been working on it by myself for about 2 day i cant get it working i need up i have tried the Troubleshooting i dont know what to do any help i can get i would love05:48
Skreech_Alonea_: fglrx?05:48
wiimanyeah05:48
gargothHasrat_USA: umm, it seems that video is not loading on my browser =/05:49
Alonea_Skreech_: yeah, and I really need my 3d accel...can't live without it05:49
DarkEDintelikey: i installed the ntfs driver and configured it with ntfs-config and now i can make changes to my windows disk, but my external HDD isn't wanting to work anymore... i plug it up and KDE asks me what to do with it like it normally does but it never comes up05:49
intelikeywiiman           sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg                                                                              answer all the questions correctly.   don't select frame buffering  and don't select vesa.05:49
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wiimani could not get x to start so i f keyed to the line command05:49
DarkEDintelikey: any idea whats up?05:49
Hasrat_USAalonea why don't you simply get rid of the default binary one and replace it with proprietory one?05:49
Skreech_smeyer: You went through the debugging sound and troubleshooting sound on the wiki?05:49
wiimanok let me try05:49
gargoth!update05:49
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:49
Alonea_Hasrat_USA: I need 3d accel to run pretty much anything05:49
smeyerskreech: Yes all of that and the links05:49
dsmithlol05:49
Skreech_Alonea_: Ok Bug ATI then05:49
Skreech_smeyer: #alsa05:50
Alonea_Skreech_: but this only happens on Ubuntu it seems.05:50
dsmithhasrat: pie in the face05:50
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teufel__i can now talk to the modem with the terminal05:50
DarkEDwell, i'll just try rebooting and see what happens05:50
Skreech_Alonea_: and Debian?05:50
teufel__but it wont connect05:50
intelikeyDarkED not really.  i 'assume' it edited /etc/fstab   look for the changes in there.   usb devices are normally sd?05:50
DarkEDintelikey: ok, i'll check it out05:50
Alonea_Skreech_: have only ever heard of this happening to Ubuntu users. nothing about any of the other distros05:50
wiimani have a 32 meg video card i believe what is that in kb?05:51
ContrastAre there any Beryl users in here?05:51
Skreech_Well Ubuntu is very popular so that may be skewed05:51
teufel__but the commands are gone under command list05:51
Skreech_hi aseigo05:51
Hasrat_USAgargoth that's because you need to be a member of YouTube and confirm that you're over 18 :P it's not like that video is for adults, but you would see three nude/bare buttocks grouping themselves together to form 'ubuntu' (LOL) and bill gates getting some pie smashed on his face by some attackers in Belgium05:51
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teufel__like the initilizing string05:51
DarkEDintelikey: there is no entry for my drive in fstab05:51
Hasrat_USAContrast: yeah05:51
wiimanintelikey?05:51
DarkEDi'm gonna reboot real quick05:51
Hasrat_USAContrast: for 8 days non-stop, even without a single reload05:52
Alonea_and apparently some people managed to get it to work with turning aspi off, but not for me05:52
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Hasrat_USAAlonea yes and that's why I'm telling you to go for the proprietory driver. for example, type glxgears in shell and see if  you see anything05:53
intelikeyDarkED some commands that help in trubble shooting these theings.   1. sudo fdisk -l      2.  mount      3. cat /proc/partitions     4. cat /etc/fstab     5. sudo blkid05:53
ContrastHasrat_USA:, would you care to test out a crash recovery script I wrote for it? It appears to work on my two systems, I just want to make sure before setting it up on a recent convert's computer.05:53
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teufel__anybody here know anything about modem commands05:53
wiimanok that didn't work05:53
laptopDELL is going to preload UBUNTU into servers05:53
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wiimanlame...05:53
Hasrat_USAContrast sure. which language is it written in? do i need to give it root access?05:53
aphroguylaptop: where did you hear that?05:54
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FreeZhi all05:54
laptopsorry not servers, desktops05:54
Hasrat_USAlaptop that's old news05:54
ContrastJust BASH. I'm no further ahead than that yet. :-D05:54
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ContrastHasrat_USA: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4945&hilit=05:54
laptopThats pretty cool for theindustry05:54
laptopfor nix05:54
intelikeywiiman leave the mem blank  first   if that don't work calculate    echo $((32*1024))05:54
laptopIve always liked having a viable alternative to does05:54
aphroguySince when is this old news?  I work for Dell.05:54
wiimanok05:54
mphilpotQuick network question -- what's the equivent of ipconfig refresh and renew (for dhcp)05:54
wiimani got an error when i tried to select the color depth says......05:55
ContrastHasrat_USA: Is there a certain thing you can do on your system that consistently crashes Beryl?05:55
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laptopThey did a public query about which version of linux to use, Ubuntu is winning by a lot05:55
wiimancannot stat '/etc/x11/xorg.conf':nsf or dir05:55
intelikeywiiman bash knows simple non-floatingpoint math.05:56
intelikeyeeek05:56
intelikeyls -ld  /etc/x11/xorg.conf05:56
DarkEDintelikey: ok, i rebooted and still no change ...05:56
Hasrat_USAcontrast um lol not really...the only time it ever crashed on me was when i tried to launch planet penguine racer, but that too stopped happening when i upgraded beryl to 0.2.005:56
intelikeyreboot seldom changes anything in linux05:57
mphilpotdoes sudo ifup <interface> do a dhcp refresh?05:57
DarkEDintelikey: KDE sees the device and tries to mount it because it asks me if i want to open the device to view files ... but then it just does nothing ... i checked fstab and again no entry05:57
intelikeyDarkED some commands that help in trubble shooting these theings.   1. sudo fdisk -l      2.  mount      3. cat /proc/partitions     4. cat /etc/fstab     5. sudo blkid05:57
Hasrat_USAlaptop fedora is a good contender too05:57
Skreech_mphilpot: sudo dhclient05:57
mphilpotThanks!05:57
wiimannsf or dir05:57
intelikey</blinks>05:58
laptopUGH05:58
intelikeywiiman ls -ld  /etc/x1105:58
DarkEDok, it shos /dev/sda1 type NTFS05:58
DarkEDshows* even05:58
laptopWhy cant I install http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash05:58
DarkEDso i just need to add that entry into fstab?05:58
laptopI download it but I try and install it and yet my browsers still say they dont have it@@@05:59
laptop\Im going to shoot somebody05:59
DarkEDwhat is the normal USB external HDD line for fstab?05:59
Alonea_laptop: awww, firefox installed mine itself through the missing plugin install.05:59
ContrastHasrat_USA: Would you mind just running the script and seeing if it successfully reloads Beryl? (Feel free to say "no," I won't get pissy. :-D)05:59
laptopi even changed it to a deb05:59
laptopwtf05:59
Hasrat_USAContrast with all due respect to your script, may i ask you to know wheather or not you have failed to notice that you can configure the 'stable' beryl to automatically revert to KDE window manager in the event of an unexpected crash?06:00
laptopThere's GOT to be an easier way.06:00
DarkEDlaptop: you have to point your browser to it06:00
Hasrat_USAContrast no no i'm gonna run it wait06:00
DarkEDlaptop: not sure how though06:00
aphroguyAdobe just hasn't made an attempt to provide linux support for Shockwave.  Kinda sucks, cause I want my Spaced Penguin!06:00
laptopUGH06:00
Skreech_laptop: Which site are you trying to load?06:00
Alonea_laptop: wait, do you have 64 bit?06:00
betacan someone throw me a link to a site which tests the various streaming formats?06:01
ContrastHasrat_USA: I know. I had that configured on the "stable" Beryl for my friend's dad (complete Linux virgin), and it didn't load, so umm... The stuff I wrote in that post happened. ;-)06:01
intelikeyDarkED normally you don't list usb things in fstab    you can. but hotpluging is lost on the device that is mounted via fstab06:01
FreeZ|RU06:01
FreeZ|RUGreetings to all recently has put kubuntu on work do not prompt how there to update, search for necessary packages, to establish that that new, well and certainly to update system (I hope there is that that on similarity apt)06:01
wiimansamn06:01
aphroguyDarkED: Point your browser to it?  It doesn't exist for linux, does it?06:01
wiimandamn06:01
betai cant google it..had it bookmarked once06:01
wiimancannot stat '/etc/x11/xorg.conf':nsf or dir06:01
wiimanwhf?06:01
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wiimanwtf?06:01
DarkEDintelikey: yes, but whent i plug the device in, KDE doesnt see it and it doesnt have an fstab entry06:01
ContrastHasrat_USA: But even if that did work, my script doesn't just load KWin. It loads KWin, waits a few seconds, then reloads Beryl.06:01
DarkEDintelikey: so it seems i need to do it manually06:01
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Alonea_laptop: gimmie a page that uses shockwave and lemme see06:02
DarkEDintelikey: it worked before i installed the ntfs-3g driver, but the driver rewrote the fstab file and killed something06:02
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Skreech_rmmod removes a module from memory?06:02
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laptopokay06:03
intelikeyDarkED ok   /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g user,users,uuid=1000,fmask=644,dmask=755 0 006:03
DarkEDintelikey: and that will still make it treat the drive as a usb drive right?06:04
Alonea_laptop: ah...getting shockwave for linux is a bit difficult it seems. Flash is easy. the easy way to get shockwave for linux is install wine, install windows version of firefox, and then install windows version of shockwave on that.06:04
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intelikeythat will make it mount automatically   add  ,noauto   in the list of args DarkED06:05
intelikeythen you can mount it at will.06:05
laptophttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/06:05
DarkEDintelikey: it's cool if it mounts automatically but i'll still be able to unmount it using the 'Safely remove' option too?06:06
laptopO you are kidding06:06
laptopI cant use Shockwave06:06
laptopCue Darth Vader, "Noooooooooooooooooooooo"06:06
DarkEDintelikey: ahh nevermind, i figured out the real issue :)06:06
intelikeyDarkED you need the noauto  caues if you don't mount it you can't umount it.    well not without sudo06:06
Alonea_laptop: well, you can with wine, but adobe neglected to make shockwave for linux users...06:06
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intelikeygood tell me DarkED06:06
DarkEDintelikey: ok, i gotta boot into windows to fix it06:06
intelikeylol06:07
intelikeyok.06:07
laptopNobody did it anyway?06:07
intelikeyfs errors06:07
intelikey?06:07
DarkEDintelikey: mount tells me the ntfs logfile on the device is corrupt and i need to boot into windows to fix it06:07
laptopNobody made shockwave linux?06:07
laptopSee06:07
Alonea_laptop: nope...06:07
intelikeyDarkED ok.06:07
DarkEDso i need to let windows touch the drive and then unplug it, then boot back into kubuntu :)06:07
laptopThats the problem, no DirectX and no Shockwave06:07
DarkEDwell, here goes06:07
Alonea_laptop: and wine is in the repos.06:07
DarkEDlaptop: it's not windows. if you want windows, go back to it.06:08
aphroguyIt's not exactly open source software.  Adobe is right up there with good old M$.06:08
laptopI want Linux to do EVERYTHING06:08
intelikeyAlonea_ wine is in the repos06:08
Alonea_laptop: though i haven't used it much so I am not the one to ask on step by step on wine.06:08
laptopaphroguy:  that never stopped anyone before06:08
intelikey!info wine06:08
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB06:08
laptopFunny06:08
Alonea_intelikey: yeah, I saw it in there, but I never figured out how to use it really...06:08
laptopWINE= Wine Is Not an Emulator06:08
laptopbut it is06:08
intelikeyAlonea_  wine filename.exe06:08
laptopwine filename.exe?06:09
laptopthat runsit?06:09
Hasrat_USAContrast: in my machine it is going back to KDE window manager, then reloading Beryl and finally starting Emerald again06:09
Ryielyep06:09
intelikeyno it's not. laptop it'a a "Compatibility Layer"  not an emulator  there is a huge differance.06:09
Alonea_intelikey: ah, well most of the stuff I wanna run is a bit more trouble than necessary...will play with it another day06:09
aphroguyWell... it would be wine /path/to/filename.exe06:09
ContrastHasrat_USA: That's the intent.06:09
intelikeyAlonea_ k06:09
Ryielbut if you stay in the file's folder you can type just: wine filename :)06:10
Skreech_laptop: Wine is not an emulator06:10
Hasrat_USAand the screen flashes and goes black for a few seconds before loading Beryl06:10
aphroguyBut yes laptop, easy as that.  Took me a while to figure that out, WINE was one of the first things I installed.06:10
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ContrastHasrat_USA: Thanks for the feedback.06:10
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SilentDis!ksysguard06:10
ubotuksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 485 kB, installed size 1564 kB06:10
ContrastAs far as I know, the black flashing is unavoidable when reloading Beryl.06:10
gargothahh06:10
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Alonea_Skreech_: of course, maybe we dont really get what the diff between emulator and compatability layer is.06:11
gargothit seems my isp is breaking up >.<06:11
Hasrat_USAcontrast when i manually select reload window manager i don't see any black flash. but when i used your script, i saw it06:11
intelikeyContrast like loading kde from kdm ?06:11
intelikeyContrast it's resetting the xserver06:11
laptopSee06:11
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=== laptop Why dont they just make WINE an integral part of UBUNTU, then EVERYTHING would work "Right out of the box"
ContrastAny suggestions on how to get the black flash out of there?06:12
Skreech_laptop: Doesn't work that way06:12
Contrastlaptop: Because not all Windows programs work on Wine.06:12
laptopWhat is "dummy package"06:13
Alonea_of course my friend and I want to make a version of linux that has a lot of popular stuff installed, I mean, it wont be made for a very long time, but we do have a name for it. Pandora.06:13
intelikeylaptop and everything would NOT work right out of the box... if it did M$ would quickly churn out some stuff that wouldn't....06:13
laptop(football player?)06:13
Skreech_can someone help with over enthusiastic modprobe -r06:13
SilentDisproblem:  ksysguard doesn't seem to want to work.  I'm not sure what i'm missing to get it working.  I did go from ubuntu -> kubuntu (edgy).  I don't think it's local daemon is running, but i'm not sure where to look, etc.06:13
laptopThat's unfortunate.06:13
Skreech_laptop: A package that doesn't install anything by itself06:13
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intelikeyand advertice it as if you could not breath without it...06:13
Skreech_laptop: No it does not06:13
ContrastSilentDis, what is it saying when you start it?06:13
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gargothlaptop: and probably they don't make it integral part, because some forthcoming applications which are designed to run on windows, require something microsoft is not willing to give up freely to linux users ;D06:14
Skreech_And it has an installer program06:14
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intelikeylaptop it has an installer program.  dpkg  and the format is  .deb06:14
=== laptop note clicking directly on a downloaded file and having it install autmatically is genius!
SilentDisContrast: upon trying to connect using ssh, it drops connection immediately.  upon trying Daemon on port 3112, it seems to 'start', but it reports nothing.06:15
Alonea_Skreech_: maybe an easier to understand installer program? all I know is I mess up quite a bit with packages and why do a lot of them not install links on the Kmenu? it drives me nuts.06:15
intelikeyyep and .deb files will do that laptop   :)06:15
ContrastSilentDis, give me a sec. I might have had this same problem before.....06:15
Skreech_Alonea_: Probably aren't GUI programs06:15
SilentDisContrast: take your time, thank you :)06:15
intelikeylaptop got your trolling out of your system yet ?06:15
laptopintelikey:  frustration.06:16
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Alonea_Skreech_: but they are. I have had to find the files and make links and when I install a bunch of stuff I loose track of what I installed and then end up having them on there and forgotten about06:16
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Skreech_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11298/06:16
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gargothSilentDis: :DD06:16
ahlalo_elyonAlonea_: I feel your pain.  That's why I've had to force myself to only install one or two apps at a time ... that way I can check if it created launchers for them or not.06:17
Skreech_can someone look at that and tell me waht it is saying?06:17
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gargothSilentDis: made it especially funny since some ppl claim that i look like sophistaced troll x)06:17
ContrastSilentDis: It's been a while, so I don't remember exactly, but it had something to do with a bad worksheet on my system. I just selected one of the options under file, might have been "Load Standard Sheets," and boom, it was fixed.06:17
markushi06:17
NaNO2xgreets06:17
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: yeah..I wanted games so I went on a binge. and "Hearts" wont load...*sniffles*06:17
Skreech_Alonea_: You sound like you seriously messed up your install of Linux somehow06:17
gargothmarkus: greetings =)06:17
ahlalo_elyonAlonea_: Yeah, hearts has never worked for me either.06:17
NaNO2xi'm having issues installing kubuntu edgy on a asus z96j and the covered method isnt working, heres the method, any other advice?06:18
NaNO2xhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31999606:18
Skreech_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11298/06:18
SilentDisContrast: I just tried that, it seems to have reset itself, then instantly had the 'connection dropped' message again.06:18
intelikeylaptop let me give you a little advice.    do not come to linux thinking you know anything about computers, you don't.    if you would have approached windows that way the first time you saw it you would have been a fool.   so don't be a fool and think that because you know windows you should know linux.   you have to start at the same place every one else does, at the bottom.06:18
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ContrastHrmm... Must be a different problem. Sorry.06:18
Alonea_Skreech_: well, most of my problems I had last time too...I guess I am just really unlucky or just seem to have/install the things that dont want to work right.06:18
ContrastDid you already check the forums?06:18
NaNO2xyes06:18
intelikeymakes it much esier to learn if you know you need to learn.06:18
Skreech_woah06:19
frutaxI just saw this error being discussed on the ubuntuforums and was wondering if anyone knew of a fix yet: I'm getting "Could not commit changes" from Adept everytime I try to install a new package06:19
ahlalo_elyonintelikey: Well, since I grew up with DOS, I think I was pretty ahead of the game moving from Windows to Linux.  Granted, I still had to learn a LOT all over again, but I wouldn't say I started at the "bottom." ;)06:19
Skreech_anyone want to see my dmesg output? :-)06:19
SilentDisintelikey: a very good point.  the only way to start a bit higher up is to have a general 'yearning' to learn.  if you don't wish to learn something new, you will NEVER learn it :)06:19
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: oh yay! I grew up on DOS pretty much too.06:19
intelikeyahlalo_elyon ok  s/windows/dos/  ^  and it's the same game.06:19
DarkEDintelikey: ok, it works now ... but the external isnt coming up on the desktop as a USB drive. i can access it through /media/ though06:19
Contrastfrutax, either open KSysGuard and kill whatever process is using apt, or reboot.06:19
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SilentDisContrast: not yet.  that is my next stop, if the chatroom had no other suggestions :)06:20
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frutaxContrast, reboot didn't fix it, i'll try opening KSysGuard06:20
NaNO2xwhen i do the ctrl alt f1 it goes into a black screen not a shell06:20
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Alonea_hmmm...I wonder if I can get the MS hearts to work on wine...course I would have no idea how to install that just right.06:20
ahlalo_elyonAlonea_: At least we knew what a terminal/command line was when coming to Linux.  My whole family tells me "Linux sucks" when their MySpace page doesn't show up right. 0.)06:20
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SilentDisContrast: figured it might've been a common issue amonst those of us who 'side-graded' to KDE from Gnome :)06:20
intelikeyDarkED k.  you'll need someone like Contrast on that.  i'm cli not kde guy.06:20
DarkEDintelikey: ok, thanks06:21
lnxkdesup06:21
intelikeynp06:21
ahlalo_elyonAlonea_: MS Hearts works wonderful with wine, actually.  You just need to copy the mshearts.exe file somewhere on your linux partition and run it :)06:21
Skreech_lnxkde: Dude06:21
Skreech_Whats up?06:21
ContrastDarkED: Did you already make sure icons on the desktop are enabled?06:21
NaNO2xi'd love to try kde and dont want to spend time with gentoo so it would be awesome to get this working with kubunut06:21
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: lol! well, I like it quite a bit, but I find installers a bit tiresome when I have to copy such and such to some root folder. why can't it just do it all so i don't screw it up?06:21
intelikeyahlalo_elyon now there's a name i like   :)06:21
DarkEDContrast: yes, it worked before i installed the ntfs-3g driver06:22
aphroguyfrutax: also, check to make sure that the changes you're trying to make won't break current dependencies.  It'll normally say BROKE or BREAK (can't remember which) in red letters if there are any issues with something you're looking to install though.06:22
lnxkdeSkreech_: here araging all my stuff in my 140 Gig partition of things :/06:22
lnxkdeSkreech_: u??06:22
DarkEDContrast: when i'd plug the device it would appear on desktop06:22
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: hmmm, gonna go have to find mshearts.exe then.06:22
ahlalo_elyonintelikey: At least you can address me now, hmm? ;)06:22
Skreech_rm -r :-)06:22
intelikeyyes06:22
SilentDisNaNO2x: kubunut, the version of linux for those that make a lot of typos?  *giggle*06:22
lnxkdeSkreech_:  ;( no06:22
Skreech_lnxkde: breaking my already broken sound06:22
NaNO2x:P06:22
SilentDislmao06:22
lnxkdeSkreech_:  hehehe06:22
Skreech_ I'm not very good  at sudo modprobe -r it seems06:22
lnxkdeSkreech_: hope u get it to work :)06:22
ahlalo_elyon!modprobe06:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:22
ahlalo_elyonhmm... me either06:23
Alonea_modprobe is my friend.06:23
lnxkdewhat sound card is Skreech_?06:23
DarkEDContrast: i disabled ntfs write support for externals ... lets see what happens when i plug it in this time06:23
ContrastNot really sure. Sorry. I'm by no means an expert, and certainly not at the level where people should be referring users to me. <cough cough> :-P06:23
Skreech_ATI SB45006:23
lnxkdeSkreech_: :s06:23
DarkEDContrast: it worked this time :)06:23
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DarkEDContrast: but i've got no write support haha06:23
ahlalo_elyonSpeaking of NTFS write support, does it usually take this long to copy files from ext3 to ntfs?  I've been going on over a half hour to copy one 4GB file...06:23
lnxkdeSkreech_: I dint know ati made sound cards too!06:23
SkreechApparently they do06:24
SkreechWell at least the wrap an Intel card06:24
DarkEDwoah wait a tick... apparently i DO have write support06:24
ContrastDarkED: What is it mounted as? Did you already try chmod?06:24
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NaNO2xso, anyone have any advice on this certain problem?06:24
SilentDisahlalo_elyon: wow, that's insane.  are you copying from remote media via usb1.1 or some such?06:24
ContrastBrilliant.06:24
lnxkdeSkreech: :/06:24
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intelikeyahlalo_elyon i don't have/use ntfs but i would venture that the answer is no for any fs.06:24
ahlalo_elyonSilentDis: Nope.  I'm copying from my home folder to a folder on my Windows partition.06:24
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: ok, when I run mshearts.exe on wine it wants those dlls...06:25
SkreechMy dmesg is now full of snd module failures06:25
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SilentDisahlalo_elyon: from ext3 > ntfs then?06:25
gargothhmm...that ntfs thingie is rather confusing06:25
ahlalo_elyonSilentDis: Correct.06:25
intelikey4g should write in less than 2 minutes locally on even a slow drive.06:25
SkreechWhat file holds my bash history again?06:25
DarkEDContrast: tis all good in the hood :)06:25
lnxkdeSkreech: using Kubuntu Right now just few days I came back to my linux partition06:25
ContrastGood deal.06:25
ahlalo_elyonintelikey: I agree.  Even if there IS a slight slowdown due to the ntfs driver, I can't imagine why it's taking this long.06:25
DarkEDContrast: in ntfs-config there are two tickboxes - enable support for internal drives and enable support for external drives06:25
intelikeySkreech ~/.bash_history ?06:26
SkreechGot it06:26
DarkEDContrast: i unticked enable support for externals but it's working just fine06:26
DarkEDContrast: i have write support on my external ... so it's all good06:26
Skreechcrap. Can I flush the current history buffer to it?06:26
SilentDisahlalo_elyon: wow.  i'd recommend killing that and trying again.  there's some weird issues with writing to ntfs in linux yet, as the journalizing isn't quite up to snuff.  I'd more recommend installing EXT2 support into windows (ext3 is ext2 with journalizing, won't cause problems, works fine) than the way you're trying.06:26
SkreechOr is that only done on logout?06:26
ahlalo_elyonSilentDis: yeah... over a half hour and so far it has copied 469mb06:27
intelikeyyes or a   history  command06:27
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: see, I know nothing about wine and how to get stuff to work.06:27
intelikeySkreech help history06:27
ContrastI seem to remember something like that actually, from back when I was trying to set up Samba. Amazing that that was only 6 months ago. Feels like years since I enjoyably used a Windows system.06:27
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ContrastWell, I'm heading out. Been up way too long.06:27
SilentDisahlalo_elyon: as an open standard, EXT2 is totally and fully supported and works great under windows from my personal experience.  on that rare moment when I need to boot windows, it's been a lifesaver :)06:28
DarkEDContrast: thanks for the help06:28
laptopintelikey, unfortunately for you, or for anyone else, I have a keen sense of a computer operating system being a convenience not a hinderance. Deal with it, it goes for windows , for linux, for MAC (I really hate MAC)06:28
Skreechok06:28
ContrastDarkED: No problem.06:28
intelikeylaptop no skin off my nose.06:28
ahlalo_elyonSilentDis: Well, I'm hoping to mount this ISO within Windows (one of the VERY rare occassions I plan on using Windows)...06:28
ContrastGood night and good luck. Peace.06:28
DarkEDcya06:28
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: actually, which hearts.exe are you using? xp version or what?06:28
ahlalo_elyonSilentDis: What do I need to install ext2 support there?  A certain app I'm not finding?06:28
ahlalo_elyonAlonea_: I use the XP version06:29
intelikeylaptop you are the only affected by your openion on that issue.06:29
laptopConvenience is king06:29
SilentDisahlalo_elyon: then you'll be fine with ext2 support under windows.  no copying or anything.  let me grab the homepage of the project for you, it's a simple driver to install in windows, and a reboot, and all your EXTx drives just show up :)06:29
gargoth!ntfs06:29
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:29
ahlalo_elyonSilentDis: Grr... a reboot? lol man, I love Linux!06:29
SilentDisahlalo_elyon: roflmao yep :)06:29
intelikeyrex rex06:30
gargoth!ntfs-3g06:30
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)06:30
ahlalo_elyonIt's bad enough I have to reboot to load windows as it is ;)06:30
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: ah, ok, must find that one then. is it mshearts.exe or hearts.exe?06:30
SilentDisahlalo_elyon: check this out http://www.fs-driver.org/06:30
ahlalo_elyonAlonea_: I believe it is c:\windows\system\mshearts.exe06:30
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: okies06:30
intelikeyahlalo_elyon there is vmware and qemu06:30
SilentDisahlalo_elyon: may i ask what game you're trying to run?06:30
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ahlalo_elyonintelikey: I've looked into vmware but I can't figure out anything about it.  Making images and such... seems extremely advanced to me.06:31
ahlalo_elyonSilentDis: Oblivion06:31
ahlalo_elyonSilentDis: But there are a few other games I play in Windows that I haven't been able to get to work in Linux06:31
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: oh! I want oblivion on mine too...06:31
SilentDisahlalo_elyon: Oblivion works great for me with Cedega and the oldblivion patch :)06:31
intelikeyahlalo_elyon yeah kinda.  but it was just an answer to "have to reboot to run windows"06:31
ahlalo_elyonintelikey: I didn't say EVERYONE has to do that... just me because I lack the technical skill to use vmware ;)06:32
intelikey:)06:32
SilentDisahlalo_elyon:  check out !cedega.  $5/month, and windows games just work.  it provides wine, an install environment, and a DX wrapper to make it work in OGL06:32
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gargothhmm, what am i doing wrong, since it seems terminal is not recognizing " gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list " command?06:32
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Alonea_I have to pay money for that? too poor...I am a college student with no job06:33
SilentDisahlalo_elyon: alternately, games that are already OGL (such as WoW) will run with wine under linux with virtually no issue.06:33
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intelikeygargoth using gnome commands in kde06:33
gargothahha...06:34
intelikeygargoth sudstitute   kdesu for gksu  and   kate for gedit06:34
SilentDisAlonea_: not necessarily.  if you are not intimidated by svn repos, there's an unpackaged version that you can pull from their repos for free and use.  just not 'streamlined'.  also, check out !crossover.06:34
aphroguygargoth: try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list06:34
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gargoththx for those =)06:34
aphroguyNano is THE MAN.06:34
intelikeygargoth or the cli mode that aphroguy mentioned.06:34
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Alonea_SilentDis: well, I use svn for rockbox...06:34
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=== NaNO2x peers
NaNO2xnot me06:35
intelikeyvim06:35
NaNO2x:P06:35
draikDoes anybody know where I can find human body parts for all the letters of the alphabet?06:35
aphroguyNano = My favorite HTML IDE :-D06:35
ahlalo_elyonOkay, other than PowerISO, does anyone know how to convert .DAA files to .ISO?06:35
Alonea_I prefer vim.06:35
Hasrat_USAgood night06:35
intelikeyhtml ide  lol06:35
ahlalo_elyondraik: Uhm, I don't know whether to laugh or call the authorities.06:35
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: did you see the free poweriso thing for linux?06:35
krquammei have a question about the jpeg library06:35
SilentDisAlonea_: check out http://www.transgaming.com/ then.  as per the GPL, they have to make it available in some manor.  i paid for it because i find it exceptionally useful, and I'm happy to support the things I like with a small finantial donation for 'ease of use' packages.06:35
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: it worked fine for me to convery .daa to iso on the command line06:36
draikahlalo_elyon: so-called authorities would laugh as well. I am just looking for a list. Google wasn't of much help. Especially with Q, X Y and Z06:36
krquammewhy do some jpegs show up "garbled" in any browser I use?06:36
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Alonea_SilentDis: thanks06:37
SilentDisspeaking of 'paying for it to support it', what with feisty coming out, I'd like to purchase DVDs of ubuntu and kubuntu when it's released.  is the 'best' way to do this via Amazon?  does some portion go back to the devs that way?06:37
intelikeykrquamme have an example ?06:37
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Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: other than that, I have not seen any other ways to convery .daa files to .iso easily.06:37
krquammeintelikey: do you want a web addy, or an uploaded screenshot?06:38
Alonea_ahlalo_elyon: and I am consistently spelling convert wrong...06:38
intelikeyurl06:38
intelikeywanted to test to see if i could reproduce that06:38
krquammeintelikey: http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9754306:39
intelikeyk   sec06:39
krquammeintelikey: the black portion of the sunburst shows up with green in it06:39
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lotusleafI'm getting dependency issues when trying to install kubuntu-desktop, never had this before, it says it needs to install several packages but that they won't be installed. I've added the kubuntu repo and refreshed but still this remains. Any clue? This is w/ Edgy.06:41
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krquammeintelikey: btw i am on 6.10 edgy06:41
NaNO2xany advice on the installation issue?06:41
krquammeNaNO2x: what issue are u having?06:42
Alonea_well, I am gonna goto bed here06:42
NaNO2xwhen i do ctrl alt f106:42
NaNO2xit doesnt go into shell06:42
NaNO2xthe actual error i'm having is this06:42
Alonea_night everyone.06:42
NaNO2xhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31999606:42
NaNO2xgnight06:42
SilentDislotusleaf: what packages?  you can !pastebin if you would prefer to just give us the output of this command:  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop06:43
lotusleafSilentDis, thx one sec06:43
krquammeNaNO2x: have you tried using ctrl+alt+bksp instead06:43
intelikeykrquamme k.   loading now.   it will take a minute dialup and busy.06:43
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krquammeintelikey: aight06:44
NaNO2xits just going into this black screen06:44
NaNO2xthen coming back up with the slash stuff06:44
NaNO2xbut it never hits shell06:44
NaNO2xthank you for the assistance06:44
intelikeykrquamme what browser/s in particular have you tried ?06:44
krquammeintelikey: firefox and konqueror06:45
intelikeyk06:45
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nonuda!ati06:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:45
krquammeNaNO2x: try killing it with ctrl+alt+bksp and then using the crtl+c to kill the restart06:45
NaNO2xdo i have to do that before i burn the cd?06:45
draikDoes anybody know where I would be able to find human body parts alphabetically?06:46
SilentDisdraik: as this is the kubuntu support chat room, I think it would be best to hit google for that, alternately, check wikipedia :)06:46
NaNO2xnope still all screwed up06:47
draikSilentDis: I have tried. I thought I'd pick at the brains in this room06:47
intelikeykrquamme i can't reproduce that affect.   could it be the xserver set to 256 colour depth ?    what about setting to some other refresh rate ?06:47
krquammeintelikey: i'll check out my nvidia driver settings and see06:48
lotusleafSilentDis, it's possible when I use aptitude, but there's dep issues: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11300/06:48
intelikeykrquamme that's all i can think of off the top of my hat06:48
speedo409How can I get my scrolling to work on my laptop using kubuntu ?06:48
krquammewould a 32bit depth give me problems?06:48
krquammeintelikey: would a 32bit depth give me problems?06:48
nonudahow to stop x server?06:48
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intelikeykrquamme it could.  try 2406:49
krquammeintelikey: yea, brb06:49
intelikeyi normally use 15  heh06:49
intelikeyperformance issue.  slow box.06:49
lotusleafSilentDis, it appears with the kdebase-bin package just to be a version issue with slight discrepancy06:50
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lotusleafSilentDis, should I just accept or do I need to do something special? :) It's never gave me a conflict before06:51
SilentDislotusleaf: looks like you pulled kdebase-bin from another repo.  the actual data is probably the same/real similar, just not the 'proper' package.  in adept (kmenu > system > adept), search for kdebase-bin, and you should be able to rt. click on it and choose a different version.06:51
lotusleafSilentDis, I don't have adept installed but thx :)06:51
lotusleafSilentDis, attempts to install adept receive same issue06:52
SilentDislotusleaf: mmm... synaptic from gnome?06:52
lotusleafSilentDis, Synaptic, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from CLI and aptitude say the same06:52
lotusleafSilentDis, sorry, not dist-upgrade in this instance06:52
lotusleafSilentDis, as I have no Kubuntu on this box atm06:52
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SilentDislotusleaf: right... use synaptic to force version on the kdebase-bin package, then retry installing kubuntu-desktop06:53
nonudawhat is this mean, ./ati-installer.sh: 165: syntax error: bad substitution06:53
lnxkdebye Skreech God bless you06:53
lnxkdeGod bless you all guys06:53
lotusleafSilentDis, k thx I'll try that06:53
lnxkdesee ya laterz06:53
SilentDis!envy | nonuda - check this tool out, it'll install the driver for you, no hastle, no muss :)06:53
ubotunonuda - check this tool out, it'll install the driver for you, no hastle, no muss :): envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia06:53
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NaNO2xbah this sucks le sigh, i dont want to spend time figuring another distro06:54
intelikeynonuda means that a var didn't substitute correctly in the script.06:54
nonudaSilentDis, i used envy...but i download the file manually, coz its the big file06:55
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nonudais that mean the donwloaded file is corrupt?06:55
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SilentDisnonuda: no problems.  after envy is installed, you can sudo cp /path/to/ati/driver/filename /usr/share/envy06:56
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intelikeynonuda means the script got tickeled at the wrong time and blew beer out it's nose.    both sides.   :)06:56
nonudaok..try it now06:56
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ahlalo_elyon!iso06:57
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:57
intelikeyyou guys are no fun.  i'm going back to bash...06:58
nonudaaha..envy detect the installer..seems it works, hope i see no errors, thanks SilentDis07:01
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NaNO2xwhat are the alternate cds anyway?07:03
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aphroguyNaNO2x: Alternate install CDs?07:04
NaNO2xumm07:05
SkullerSodium Nitrite: no idea...i wanted to know that too for a long time too07:05
NaNO2xi'm burning07:05
NaNO2xkubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso07:05
aphroguyThat's a text-based installer, rather than a live CD.07:05
NaNO2xah07:05
NaNO2xok07:06
NaNO2xso that may work07:06
aphroguyMostly for VERY low end systems, such as mine.07:06
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NaNO2xsince this seems to be a graphics problem07:06
NaNO2xhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31999607:06
aphroguyAre you on a notebook or desktop?07:06
NaNO2xnotebook07:06
EruantalonHow do I make beryl the default window manager?07:06
aphroguyIntegrated graphics?07:06
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NaNO2xlook in the beryl wiki, there is a page on it07:06
NaNO2xmake it autostart07:06
NaNO2xno07:06
NaNO2xati x160007:07
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aphroguyHmmm.... well, it will definitely get it installed.07:07
Skuller!alternate | NaNO2x07:07
ubotuNaNO2x: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.07:07
nonudaParse error on line 181 of section monitor in file /etx/X11/xorg.conf , this the only error of ati installation using envy07:07
NaNO2xits not working with the live cd07:08
NaNO2xthats the problem07:08
NaNO2xif it was wroking id love to use it07:08
aphroguyIt may not get your GUI running, but booting into safe mode and running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will give you the option to play around with the pre-installed GPU drivers.07:09
Skulleryou sure you set the cd boot options in the bios?07:09
NaNO2xyes its getting into the cd07:09
NaNO2xits just once i get through the install etc07:09
NaNO2xso like now07:09
NaNO2xits configuring x07:09
Skullerchecked the cd for errors?07:09
NaNO2xgoing through all the startups07:10
NaNO2xyeah07:10
NaNO2xno errors07:10
aphroguyThat's what my fiancee had to do.  She has an ATI, don't remember the exact model off the top of my head.07:10
NaNO2xso once it boots up here07:10
NaNO2xi try ctrl alt f107:10
NaNO2xand it goes into an all black screen07:10
NaNO2xnot a shell07:10
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NaNO2xij si07:12
NaNO2xwoops07:12
NaNO2xok07:12
NaNO2xso its in the booted up07:12
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jay08hmm07:12
NaNO2xand everything is unreadable07:12
NaNO2xnow07:12
jay08wer is dis?07:12
NaNO2xshould i do ctrl alt f1?07:12
NaNO2xor another ctrl alt07:12
jay08wers ur loc?07:13
nonudai can't start x, after i install ati driver using envy, when i startx it said, Parse error on line 181 of section monitor in file /etx/X11/xorg.conf "Endsection? is not valid keyword in this section, how do i fix this?07:13
NaNO2xhmm?07:13
Skullerlocation07:13
NaNO2xsuch as?07:13
NaNO2xwhere do i live07:13
NaNO2x:P07:13
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jay08hmm07:14
jay08cno taga zamboanga?07:14
nonudaanyone?07:14
jay08cno taga zamboanga?07:14
NaNO2xunsure, maybe i can help once i actually get nix installed :p07:15
jay08may taga zambo ba d2?07:15
NaNO2xso should i try the ctrl alt f1 again?07:15
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aphroguyWhere are you at right now, what's on your screen Nano?07:17
NaNO2xok07:17
NaNO2xi pressed ctrl alt f107:18
NaNO2xand it took me to an all black screen07:18
NaNO2xthe forum said it would goto a shell07:18
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NaNO2xso i'm a bit confused there07:18
aphroguyOkay, where were you before pressing ctrl alt f1?07:18
teufel_ok here is the problem for those up to the challenge i can connect to the isp through the kppp modem terminal but when i try to connect to the isp through the normal logon i the modem hangs it doesnt even make sound nothing at is there some way to connect to the isp its a hsfmodem07:18
NaNO2xit had booted in07:18
NaNO2xgone to the install07:18
aphroguyAt the login screen?  In your desktop environment?07:18
NaNO2xbut once it got to the actual start screen07:19
NaNO2xyeah07:19
NaNO2xthere it went all diagonal slashes07:19
NaNO2xin the light blue07:19
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NaNO2xand two spaces that were really thin i could arrow between07:19
NaNO2xand then the currsor was spinning around the screen when i moved it07:19
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teufel_!hsfmodem07:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hsfmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:20
aphroguyWow, huh..... so it's not successfully displaying ANYTHING.  Did the Kubuntu loading screen even work?  Where it shows you all the startup processes and tasks it's doing?07:20
NaNO2xyeah07:21
NaNO2xthat worked fine07:21
NaNO2xits just after that that it breaks07:21
aphroguyDid you get to the login screen at all?07:21
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NaNO2xnot visible07:22
teufel_is there anybody here who has had to configure kppp before07:22
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aphroguyOkay, what I'd do is reboot (probably have to hard reboot from the tower) then when Grub is starting up, you'll have 3 seconds to hit ESC to go to boot options.07:23
NaNO2xyeah07:23
NaNO2xdid all that07:23
NaNO2xthis doesnt even need hard reboots07:23
NaNO2xit closes itself correctly with the power button07:24
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aphroguyWere you able to pull up the "ComputerName@root:" prompt?07:25
aphroguyEr...07:25
NaNO2xno07:25
aphroguyWait.....07:25
aphroguyStrike that.07:25
aphroguyReverse it.07:25
aphroguyThere we go.07:25
NaNO2xhehe07:25
NaNO2xno07:25
NaNO2xno shell support07:25
aphroguyWell monkey.07:26
NaNO2xgonna try this alt version07:26
NaNO2xpossibly it will work07:26
NaNO2x:P07:26
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aphroguySo you were just running it from the Live CD, it hasn't been installed yet?07:27
NaNO2xnever got to running07:27
NaNO2xbut yes07:27
aphroguyWell.... in a manner of speaking.;)07:28
NaNO2xdoing a cd check on this one07:28
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NaNO2xwill tell you when done07:28
NaNO2xand should i do txt, oem, or cmd line07:28
mrignsdrg07:28
mrignswhoops07:28
mrignsanthy was turned on07:29
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cpk1hehe it happens =)07:29
aphroguyWith the alt CD, you will have to install it before it runs, obviously.  But if I recall, it does give you the options for video card drivers.07:29
NaNO2xheres how i speak japenses ????? ??? ????????????? ???? ???????????/07:29
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mrignsi just tried to say good morning :D07:29
NaNO2xhmm ok07:29
NaNO2x:P07:29
cpk1hmm well I only see 2 hiragana characters in there07:29
mrignsactually 307:29
NaNO2xyeah07:29
aphroguyOh geez, I don't even remember which one I did.  Txt?07:29
NaNO2xi think txt is the right one07:30
NaNO2xits the top one07:30
NaNO2xbut we'll see07:30
NaNO2xstill checking07:30
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aphroguyThat's the handy thing about the way the devs set up the installation process: most of the generals to get it to 'just work' are set as default, so if you don't know something, leave it where it is.07:31
mrignsis there a way to add scripts to the konqueror context menu?07:31
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nonuda!beryl07:31
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:31
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NaNO2xberyl looks nice but i'm unsure if its really needed07:31
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NaNO2xi'm a kde noob though, so it may work better on this07:34
cpk1beryl isnt needed07:34
NaNO2xok07:34
NaNO2xall verified07:34
NaNO2xtxt mode now07:34
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mrignsi think there are some good features in beryl07:34
mrignsand the cube isnt one of them ;P07:34
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mrignsthe task switching tools and thumbnails in the bar are quite nice07:34
provolikHi07:34
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provolikDoes someone of you have experience with aMSN and webcam?07:35
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aphroguyOf course it's needed; it is if you have the hardware to support it.  And if you don't need it, you need the hardware to support it so that you do need it.:-D  And unfortunately, I have neither at the moment.07:35
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NaNO2xprovolik yes07:36
provolikcan you help me? It says me I have a firewall or a rouetr07:37
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mrignsdo you?07:37
provolikI have a router but I opened ports from 6890 to 690007:37
provolikNow I don't know anything about the firewall07:37
NaNO2xare you using amsn?07:37
provolikyes07:37
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provolikI opened ports from 6890 to 6900 on my router07:43
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provolikbut it says me the same...07:43
provolikcan you help?07:43
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provolikuhm07:43
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provolikI opened ports from 6890 to 6900 on my router, NaNO2107:43
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provolikIt says me that I am behind a firewall or a router....07:43
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NaNO21wtf is with the server07:43
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SkullerNaNO21: what wtf is with the server?07:45
mrignssome kind of netsplit07:45
NaNO21hmmm07:46
NaNO21one sec07:46
NaNO21lets see if this kicks me07:47
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NaNO21nvm it would07:47
teufel__ok here is the problem for those up to the challenge i can connect to the isp through the kppp modem terminal but when i try to connect to the isp through the normal logon i the modem hangs it doesnt even make sound nothing at is there some way to connect to the isp its a hsfmodem07:48
NaNO21hmm07:48
NaNO21unsure on that07:48
NaNO21on the amsn problem07:48
NaNO21what router are you using?07:48
mervteck_Can Anyone help me with a cedega problem07:49
teufel__!dialup07:50
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto07:50
teufel__!modem07:50
provolikI am using US Robotics NaNO2107:51
teufel__!modem07:51
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto07:51
NaNO21ah07:51
NaNO21hmm07:51
NaNO21havent delt with them much heard they were good07:51
NaNO21but i cant help you much07:51
teufel__i think all i need is the modem strings07:51
provolik:-\07:51
provolikIt's strange however07:51
NaNO21why would you ever wana use dialup!!!!07:51
teufel__i dont know i have not messed with a modem since like 9807:52
teufel__its my friends comp07:52
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provolikIf I open aMSN and I don't log in it says me that the ports are OK07:52
NaNO21hmm07:52
NaNO21well go into preferences07:52
provolikbut if I log in it says me I am behind a firewall or a router07:52
NaNO21yeah07:52
NaNO21so check preferences07:52
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teufel__i have spent alot of time loading him down with kubuntu telling him its cool then at the end of it all the modem doesnt work07:52
NaNO21and scan those ports on yourself07:52
NaNO21it could be a software setting you have07:53
NaNO21lol07:53
NaNO21that sucks07:53
provolikuhm07:53
provolikamsn preferences?07:53
NaNO21modem support usually isnt bad07:53
NaNO21yeah07:53
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teufel__i can connect to the modem and get to the login prompt07:53
NaNO21i dont have it open right now so i cant tell you exactly07:53
teufel__with the terminal07:53
teufel__the modem terminal in kppp07:54
mrignsteufel__: if you want to show someone a GNU/Linux desktop, show him SabayonLinux 3.307:54
teufel__i just loaded linux not a week ago07:54
ffffuany dudes have used avisplit before?07:54
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NaNO21not i07:55
teufel__i can talk to my modem and all of that but it wont initilize and dial through kppp07:55
ffffuanyone knows how to split my viz?07:55
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NaNO21ugh this is so much easier to install with pictures...or at least easier to watch while it installs :P07:55
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provolikok I will try later07:56
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NaNO21hrm07:58
NaNO21its been stuck at 6% for a while07:58
teufel__well this is hopeless i think07:58
NaNO21nothing is hopeless07:59
NaNO21things just take a longer while07:59
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NaNO21ok...08:05
NaNO21sooooo08:05
NaNO21still have the issue08:05
NaNO21it installed and all08:05
NaNO21but now its still the slanted stuff08:05
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mervteck_hey can someone look at teh picture in this link and tell me how to get the thing on the right http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/LazyMonkeys-Gentoo?content=2791508:07
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iwondernfi  mervteck_ several of them do that08:08
mrignsthats superkaramba08:08
mervteck_can ya tell me how to get it =D08:08
mrignsthe bomb in the systray08:08
mrignsapt-get install superkaramba i guess08:09
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mrignsbut there are many applets/themes etc for the prog08:09
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mervteck_yeah i wanna get that same monitor guy thats on the right08:10
mervteck_i likie08:10
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iwonderthere are tons of "pieces" for superkamba08:10
iwonderi never found much use for them except eye candy08:11
mervteck_yeah im lookin at em now08:11
Skulleranyone here also on #freenode-social?..if yes, can you tell me what is it about?08:12
NaNO2xanyone help out with this issue?08:12
iwonderwhats the issue NaNO2x?08:12
mervteck_mmm much better i loves my geektastic eyecandy =D08:13
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mervteck_can u guys tell me how to upgrade my videocard drivers for nvidia, i dunno which im usin cuz i installed with Automatix208:14
mrignsthe u probably got the newest one around08:15
mrignsapt-get install nvidia-glx otherwise08:15
mervteck_k cuz like im wondering why its not detecting my card the gpu the memory and suck in the bit of eyecandy08:15
mervteck_such*08:16
mrignswhich card is it?08:16
mervteck_7950gt08:16
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NaNO2x*sigh*08:16
NaNO2xso pissed at this08:16
NaNO2xumm08:16
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mervteck_yup i got newest version08:16
NaNO2xwell i cant reach shell from the start screen with ctrl alt f108:16
epimeth!codecs08:17
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NaNO2xsince i have an ati card i need to get a default set till i can get the ati driver08:17
mrignsits alt ctrl f108:17
NaNO2xctrl alt and altr ctrl shouldnt matter08:17
NaNO2x:P08:17
iwonder|tooctrl+alt+backsp08:17
iwonder|tooto kill x08:17
iwonder|tootype killall kdn08:17
iwonder|tookdm08:17
NaNO2xwell08:18
NaNO2xi'm not getting a shell08:18
iwonder|toothen edit your xorg.conf to use vesa08:18
NaNO2xand that wont kill x08:18
NaNO2xthat sounds good08:18
iwonder|toousually have to hit it to or 3 times08:18
NaNO2xbut the ctrl alt backspace08:18
NaNO2xoh08:18
NaNO2xone sec08:18
NaNO2xnope08:18
NaNO2xnot killing x08:19
iwonder|took08:19
iwonder|toois sshd running?08:19
NaNO2xunsure08:19
NaNO2xi just installed with the alt cd08:19
iwonder|toodefault install?08:19
epimeth!wmv08:19
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NaNO2xbecause the live cd wouldnt even boot in08:19
NaNO2xi mean it goes througgh boot stuff08:19
NaNO2xbut comes with this slant08:19
NaNO2xso i got through steps with alt cd on txt08:19
NaNO2xso kubuntu shoudl be fully active right now08:20
NaNO2xshould i try sshing in08:20
iwonder|tooin grub do you have  multiple listings og same kernel08:20
NaNO2xyeah08:20
iwonder|tootry the second one08:20
NaNO2xone is for like08:20
NaNO2xrecovery08:20
NaNO2xok08:20
NaNO2xone sec08:20
mervteck_how do i customise my little side guy now to watch my pci ethernet card not my onboard08:20
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NaNO2xooh08:21
NaNO2xi'm in root08:21
NaNO2xok08:21
NaNO2xso now what do i do08:21
mrignstry the config08:21
NaNO2xwhich config08:22
iwonder|toodepends on which editor you have08:22
NaNO2xpico i'll use08:22
NaNO2xi'm sure it has pico08:22
NaNO2x:p08:22
unix_infidelholy jebus do i hate installing OS's08:22
mrignswas addressing mervteck_08:22
NaNO2xbut wheres it located08:22
iwonder|tooone sec let me see08:22
unix_infidelespecially since its taken almost 5 hours and its going to take just as long on the other comp08:22
mrignsmervteck_: switch the string eth0 with eth108:22
mervteck_what you mean mrigns08:22
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unix_infideltoo bad this stuff is windows, cant wait to run these nix install scripts and just be DONE later on :)08:23
mervteck_where do i change that08:23
iwonder|tooin /etc/X1108:23
mrignsrightclick on the actual applet should pop up a context menu08:23
iwonder|tooi use nano but use what u are familiar with08:23
iwonder|toochange the driver line to vesa08:23
iwonder|toothe xorg.conf08:24
NaNO2xi've never used nano08:24
NaNO2xwhats diff with that and pico :p08:24
iwonder|toonever used pico08:24
mrignsVIM FOREVER!08:24
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NaNO2xi use vim for ...well more stuff08:24
NaNO2xbut not for a basic txt editor08:24
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iwonder|tooi hate vi,some of my terminal mis interput :q08:24
NaNO2xok so which one do i chang08:25
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iwonder|tootype nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:25
iwonder|toouse your down arrow to get to the drive line08:25
iwonder|toouse delete key08:25
iwonder|tootype in vesa08:25
iwonder|toohit ctrl x08:25
mervteck_well im off to bed08:25
iwonder|toohit y08:25
mervteck_have a good nite guys08:26
mrignshere its morning08:26
mrignsbye08:26
mrigns;P08:26
mervteck_=P08:26
NaNO2xwait08:26
NaNO2xumm08:26
NaNO2x...08:26
NaNO2xok08:26
NaNO2xoh08:26
NaNO2xdrive08:26
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NaNO2xi'm on device and it says vesa08:26
NaNO2xhrm08:26
NaNO2xi dont see drive08:26
mrignsdriver08:27
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mrignsnot drive08:27
NaNO2xumm08:27
iwonder|toosection "device"08:27
iwonder|tooDriver08:27
NaNO2xok08:27
NaNO2xi'm there08:27
NaNO2xand it has "vesa"08:27
NaNO2xsoooo08:27
iwonder|tooand it messes the screen up?08:27
NaNO2xyeah08:27
NaNO2xhrm08:27
NaNO2xmaybe i should just install the ati drivers from cmd08:28
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mrignsthe ati driver isnt running08:28
iwonder|toodo you perhaps have multiple drivers?08:28
NaNO2xshouldnt08:28
mrignsno, vesa is running08:28
NaNO2xsection "device"08:28
NaNO2xidentifier "ati technologies, inc. ati default card"08:28
NaNO2xdriver "vesa"08:28
NaNO2xbusid "pci:1:0:0"08:28
iwonder|toomine use radeon there but its an older card08:29
iwonder|tooi usually use vesa as a fall back08:29
NaNO2xyeah08:29
NaNO2xwell thats supposed to be using vesa isnt it08:29
iwonder|toounless you are defaulting to too high a default depth08:30
NaNO2xwell08:30
NaNO2xwhich is default?08:30
iwonder|toolook in screen section at what identifier says08:30
NaNO2xit says 2408:30
NaNO2xwhich is08:30
NaNO2x1680x105008:30
NaNO2xthe highest08:30
NaNO2xi think08:30
iwonder|tooyeah vesa won';t do that08:30
NaNO2xwell08:30
NaNO2xwait08:30
NaNO2xthey all say 1680x105008:31
NaNO2xunder modes08:31
mrignstry deleting the entries there, after backupping, and just put "1024x768_60" in there08:31
iwonder|toocrazy autoconfig08:31
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NaNO2xyeah i know08:31
NaNO2xumm08:31
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NaNO2xone sec08:31
iwonder|toowhich card do you have NaNO2x?08:32
NaNO2xwhats the _60 for08:32
NaNO2xx160008:32
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iwonder|too60 hertz i think08:33
NaNO2xso is it something i need to do?08:33
iwonder|too1024x768 running at 60 hertz refresh08:33
iwonder|tooyeah08:33
NaNO2xok08:34
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NaNO2xso how cna i start it back up or should i just restarT?08:34
mrignsrestart x08:35
NaNO2xall right... i did exit08:35
NaNO2xand its umm08:35
NaNO2xstuck on a boot script it looks like08:35
NaNO2xmoment08:35
iwonder|toofrom root console type kdm08:36
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mrignsthen search /var/log/Xorg.0.log for something strange08:36
iwonder|tooor startX if u just want to test X08:36
NaNO2xsee it goes through the like loading of drivers etc08:36
NaNO2xlets see if it fixed the actual start08:37
NaNO2xumm08:37
NaNO2xi think i broke it :P08:37
NaNO2xand i think i know how08:37
NaNO2xsoooo08:37
iwonder|toocat /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:37
NaNO2xhow do you comment something prooperly08:38
iwonder|toolook for (EE)08:38
krautmoin08:38
NaNO2xbecause i just did //08:38
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iwonder|too#08:38
NaNO2xand i think it broke08:38
NaNO2x:P08:38
NaNO2xdamit not being c!!08:38
iwonder|tooyeah that probably pissed it off08:38
Jucatouse # instead of //08:39
Jucato(and // is C++ :P)08:39
NaNO2x:P08:39
NaNO2xumm08:39
NaNO2xanyway08:39
NaNO2xhow do i start it up08:39
NaNO2xstartX08:39
NaNO2xthat seems to simple08:40
Jucatostartx08:40
mrignskdm08:40
JucatoLinux is as case-sensitive as C08:40
NaNO2xwoah08:40
NaNO2xnaw08:40
iwonder|tooyou shoulud get an ugly gray screen08:40
NaNO2xstill broken08:40
NaNO2xso how can i kill it08:40
nonuda!fglrx08:40
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iwonder|tooynless kde starts with X08:40
NaNO2xstill all broke08:40
Jucatoif it didn't start, it won't be alive, so you don't need to kill it...08:40
NaNO2xi figure i should install the driver08:41
NaNO2xwell08:41
NaNO2xit started up08:41
NaNO2xto the light blue screen08:41
NaNO2xthats twisted and slanted08:41
NaNO2xand squeeze08:41
NaNO2xd08:41
Jucatolight blue screen....08:41
iwonder|tootry ctrl alt +08:41
JucatoBSOD :O08:41
NaNO2xlol08:41
NaNO2xkinda08:41
NaNO2x:P08:41
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mrignsBSOD = ?08:41
NaNO2xctrl alt + does nothing08:41
JucatoBlue Screen Of Death08:41
Jucatoit's a Windows thing :D08:41
NaNO2xwow...i better not have bsod'ed nix08:41
NaNO2x:p08:41
mrignshehe08:42
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iwonder|tooctrl alt f1-f6 should give console08:42
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NaNO2xwo08:43
NaNO2xwarnings08:43
iwonder|toobut X may hang the pc08:43
r3factoredis there an interface to use if you want to play with on-screen-display activity - i.e. amarok osd?08:43
iwonder|toowarnings are good08:43
NaNO2x/dev/wacom08:43
NaNO2xcan not find it08:43
iwonder|toowth is it08:43
mrignsgot the same warning08:43
NaNO2xyeah?08:43
Jucator3factored: the OSD thing is a per-app feature... or are you asking how to configure Amarok's OSD?08:43
mrignsnothing to do with it08:44
mrignsi think08:44
NaNO2xok so lets see08:44
r3factoredJucato: no i want to use it for other things.08:44
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NaNO2xwhere should i check for problems08:44
Jucator3factored: ah you have to actually code it afaik08:44
nonudadamn fglrx seems not work with my ati rage mobility..08:44
r3factoredJucato: ok do you know what framework it uses? how would i find out more about the interfaces?08:44
iwonder|tooin /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:44
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Jucator3factored: try #kde or #kde-devel coz I don't know...08:45
mrignsthere is a legend about sacrificing chickens above ati boards solving all problems...08:45
NaNO2xok what am i looking for08:45
nonudalol08:45
r3factoredcool thanks08:45
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davidI'm running Ubuntu 6.10, and trying to run Kqemu. Has anyone had any luck with that?08:46
Jucatomrigns: that is simply not true. nonuda, don't believe him. you don't need to sacrifice chickens.08:46
Jucatolambs are the preferred sacrifice08:46
Jucatobut gnus would be best, I heard08:46
iwonder|too(EE)08:46
mrignsfool lambs are supposed to fix wireless lan problems08:46
NaNO2xAIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable08:48
NaNO2xxf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom08:48
NaNO2xa lot of those08:48
NaNO2xfor the second08:48
nonuda!baddevice08:48
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NaNO2xbut only one of the first08:48
mrignsoutcomment "dri" in the xorg.conf08:49
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NaNO2xunder load?08:49
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rob-westis there a place for unrealircd08:49
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mrignssec must check08:49
mrignsyes08:50
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rob-westif so where08:50
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NaNO2xnope x is still fuxored08:50
harmentalhey guys...i get this when apt-get updating:08:51
harmentalGPG error: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org edgy/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available08:51
harmentalwhat can i do?08:51
mrignsget the key08:51
david_bump_  Anyone able to run kqemu under Kubuntu 6.10?08:52
AniHatzisI loose KDE Wallet keys every day with no obvious reason (Kubuntu 6.10)08:52
mrignsNaNO2x: *noideasleft*08:52
NaNO2xhrm08:52
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AniHatzisDoes KDE Wallet only store passwords for a single session?08:52
iwonder|tooNaNO2x:  which card?08:52
NaNO2xso, any idea about installing api driver through shell08:52
mrignsx160008:52
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NaNO2xx160008:52
iwonder|toowonder with xorg ati driver will somewhat support it?08:53
davidAniHatzis: I've been having KWallet issues under 6.10 as well.08:53
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AniHatzisdavid: Did you find a solution? I could not find anything appropriate in Google :(08:54
davidAniHatzis: I haven't lost keys, but it doesn't want to come up with Konq. Still fiddling with it, no answers...08:54
NaNO2xeyg08:54
NaNO2xwtf08:54
NaNO2xit still has (EE) AIGLX: DRI module not loaded08:54
NaNO2xi commented it with a #08:54
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iwonder|tooin xorg.conf near the top?08:55
mrignsbackup and delete08:55
iwonder|tooin modules section08:55
nonudai have recently install ati drivers, but x wont start, it said EE No devices detected, in xorg.conf there are 2 section of "Device", once using "ati" as driver and others "fglrx" as driver08:55
AniHatzisdavid: My wallet is getting completely empty. And it seems that it doesn't come up then, I have to start it manually.08:55
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draeathI did something stupid... when I installed I accidently set /dev/hda2 (92mb) to /home instead of /boot, and /boot is now on the / FS. Is this faily easy to correct?08:56
davidAniHatzis: I think I'm seeing the same issue with the manual settings. Let me bop over to my wife's session and try somethings...08:56
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draeathIf i move the contents of /boot to a new partition and mount that partition to /boot in the future...08:57
draeathwill Grub explode?08:58
iwonder|toodraeath:  the location of /boot doesn't matter just as long as grub.conf coincides08:58
iwonder|toomine is in /08:58
NaNO2xX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:59
NaNO2xsoooooooooooooooo pretty08:59
NaNO2x:D08:59
NaNO2x<308:59
iwonder|tooi have 2 linux partitions.one for swap,one for /08:59
iwonder|toowhatcha fix NaNO2x?08:59
draeathHmm, menu.lst doesnt reference itself, it only seems to matter what device / is on08:59
NaNO2xjust took out the lines08:59
NaNO2xand changed it from that _6008:59
NaNO2xto just x102409:00
NaNO2xok09:00
NaNO2xnow to install ati drivers09:00
draeathGood luck >.<09:00
harmentalmrigns: how?09:00
NaNO2xhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide09:00
NaNO2xthat should help09:00
NaNO2x:P09:00
draeathiwonder|too: here goes :D09:01
draeathiwonder|too: gotta drop to single-user mode though09:01
davidAniHatzis: Still there?09:01
AniHatzisdavide: yes09:01
draeathWhat runlevel is root/local only?09:01
davidAniHatzis: It seems to be working now. :-(09:02
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draeathnevermind ill just reboot09:02
davidAniHatzis: One thing I did was import her old wallet in, and fiddle with it a bti.09:02
AniHatzisdavid: That's good. Did you learn the reason?09:02
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unix_infidel(w/ apt-get dist-upgrade that is)09:02
davidAniHatzis: That seemed to take care of some of the issues.09:03
seven11does kubuntu open ports automaticly or is it enough to open the port on the router09:03
AniHatzisdavid: I will try with the wallet file I back up yesterday. I will drop a note09:03
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davidAniHatzis: Good luck! I'm not an admin, so I probably won't be around. I'm looking for help myself. ;-)09:04
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davidAnyone had luck with kqemu? Going... Going...09:05
seven11do i have to configure iptables or is it set up with the programs09:06
davidNever mind, I'll pound on it some more. Thanks! -oo-09:06
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harmentalmrigns: do you know how to get keys back?09:08
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mrignsi dont know where you got it09:08
harmentalmrigns: me neither.......ok...thx anyways.....09:09
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noobwhen i start up beyl manager the bar on top of the windows disapears can someone help me get it back09:17
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NaNO2xugh09:22
NaNO2xthis isnt working09:22
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[StingRay] Hi all. Can somebody tell what was the recovery boot option with the livecd? I have broken system files.09:24
eilker!bind09:24
ubotubind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB09:24
[StingRay] Hi, stdin.09:25
eilker!djbDNS09:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about djbdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:25
[StingRay] !recovery09:27
ubotuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"09:27
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nonuda_!ati09:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:29
NaNO2xpsh09:29
NaNO2x:P09:29
NaNO2xi got it working09:29
NaNO2x:P09:29
nonuda_NaNO2x, did u got ati working?09:30
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draeathThat was irritating09:34
draeathdoes anyone know why Ubuntu doesn't let me use my PS/2-keyboard but a USB-keyboard works fine?09:35
draeathisn't that backwards?09:35
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draeathiwonder|too: it worked, soon as I remembered that root(0,4) was actually looking for /boot instead of /09:35
eilker!tux09:36
ubotutux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/09:36
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iwonder|toodraeath:  death,where doesn't keyboard work?09:39
iwonder|tooin grub or X?09:39
NaNO2xso yeah iwonder09:39
NaNO2xit all worked09:39
iwonder|toocool09:39
NaNO2xhave ati drivers now09:39
NaNO2xand a huge ass resolution09:39
NaNO2xand i love it09:39
NaNO2x:D09:39
iwonder|toowhich driver?09:40
NaNO2xnot the open source one09:40
NaNO2xwhich i dislike09:40
NaNO2xbut i want one working09:40
iwonder|toofglxr?09:40
NaNO2xyeah09:40
draeathiwonder|too: only in single-user-mode09:40
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iwonder|toonever got it to work right on my desktop09:40
draeathworks fine in X, in the TTYs once booted, and in grub09:40
iwonder|toodraeath: i'd guess there is a module loading difference09:41
iwonder|tooi used ati and radeon,both from xorg09:42
iwonder|tooradeon gave best glxgears09:42
iwonder|toofor me09:42
iwonder|toobut like i said i got an older card09:43
iwonder|toomodule suporrt was common09:43
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iwonder|toodon't need a nice card to look at irc and porn,lol09:44
NaNO2x:P09:44
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NaNO2xi use blender so this should make things nice09:44
nonuda_i still have trouble with ati card, can u help me?09:44
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draeaththanks again iwonder|too09:45
NaNO2xwhats the problems nonuda09:46
iwonder|toononuda_:  did you try the how-to posted earlier?09:46
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nonuda_hmm..nope...i have try the guide but still not succeed09:47
NaNO2xwhats the problems?09:47
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stdin[StingRay] : hey09:48
nonuda_fglrxinfo show me OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect09:48
nonuda_aha stdin has wake up09:48
NaNO2xhmm09:48
stdini was playin with apache09:48
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nonuda_stdin, can i run beryl on Ati Rage Mobility? currently direct rendering = no09:50
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stdinnonuda_: think you can, but you'll need the ati binary driver and xgl installed and setup09:51
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stdinnonuda_: not to sure about that card tho09:52
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nonuda_ok..currently i have installed ati driver using envy, and in adept manager i can see xorg-driver-fglrx installed and so is fglrx-kernel-2.6.17-10-generic09:54
premier_Im having a very heated debate with a friend... Whats the status of linux of macs, esp mactels?09:54
stdinnonuda_: you either install the one with envy, or the one from ubuntu, not both09:54
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nonuda_i install with envy, but when i checked through adept, i can see they all installed, i didnot use apt-get09:55
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nonuda_the installation seems to works fine, i got no error, but x wont start it said "no devices found"09:56
stdinnonuda_: try reconfiguring the X server09:57
stdinnonuda_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:57
nonuda_already tried that, if i use fglrx as driver, x wont start, but if i use ati, x will start but with no direct rendering09:58
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stdinnonuda_: try removing the envy driver and the ubuntu one, then just install the ubutnu one09:59
stdinnonuda_: they could be conflicting10:00
nonuda_hmm..i see, reasonable enough10:00
nonuda_ok..fitst i will remove all fglrx* in adept manager..right?10:01
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stdinnonuda_: yeah, but you need to tell envy to remove the driver too10:03
nonuda_ok..brb10:03
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epimethstdin: whatup?10:07
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stdintrying to get my head around the apahce config10:07
nonuda_hmm envy said : EBVY ERROR: envy does not recognise your card as compatible with any version of the driver.......detection failed!!10:07
geniipremier_: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page10:07
nonuda_EBVY=ENVY10:08
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epimethstdin: what, specifically?10:08
stdinnonuda_: maybe your card is too old, ati don't make a legacy driver line nvidia do10:09
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stdinepimeth: I decides to make a wiki, using moinmoin, but it's being weird :P10:09
nonuda_yes its an old one, i was once installed ati through envy by choosing manual installation, then choose the legacy driver10:10
geniiI'd like to see some wiki that you don't have to learn a new formatting language. Just copy in some html or so10:10
Ayabaraanyone running a dual screen setup with an ati card? I have some problems with this. when I maximize my window on the secondary screen, some of it disappears behind my panels.10:10
epimethstdin: dunno moinmoin....10:11
stdin!info moinmoin-common10:12
ubotumoinmoin-common: Python clone of WikiWiki - common data. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.3-1ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 1537 kB, installed size 10272 kB10:12
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epimethcool....10:14
epimethwhats the problem?10:14
nonuda_stdin, i got the legacy ati driver from what envy links give me, so i will never can't run beryl on my ati card?10:16
stdinit keeps trying to read it's config from somewhere that doesn't exist :p10:16
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epimethlol10:16
stdinnonuda_: try using it with xgl, if you can get xgl working you can run beryl10:16
epimethstdin... you using beryl?10:17
nonuda_xgl? where can i get it?10:17
stdinnonuda_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl10:17
stdinepimeth: yeah, when xorg isn't broke (I'm on feisty)10:18
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unix_infidellol.10:19
unix_infidelyaay, less than a month till final release :P10:19
unix_infidelless than a day dill first beta :P10:19
unix_infideland xorg is broken.10:19
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stdinwas, because feisty is on xorg 7.2 now10:19
stdinand it took a while to get it all updated10:20
epimethis the settings manager working for you?10:21
epimethI've got 2 separate installs (1 feisty, 1 edgy) and neither works!10:21
stdinyeah, it's working here10:22
epimetharg10:22
epimethwtf10:22
stdinwhat version are you on? I have 0.2.1-0ubuntu110:23
stdin(from feisty/universe)10:23
epimethhow do I check that?10:23
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stdin"apt-cache policy beryl-manager" should tell you10:24
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jack__hi10:24
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epimeth0.2.0~0beryl1 (edgy)10:25
epimethI'll check the feisty one....10:25
jack__is somebody experienced with guarddog?10:25
stdinlooks like that's the latest edgy version10:25
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epimethstdin: do you know anything about locales?10:29
epimethstdin: a flash (too late) of inspiration hit me10:29
stdinepimeth: some, not much tho10:30
epimethstdin: seems its a locale problem...10:30
epimethstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11309/10:30
epimethI'm consistantly getting those annoying perl locale errors, too... every time I upgrade or, really, do anything with packages10:31
epimethand !locale is useless10:31
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stdinepimeth: does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" generate some locales ?10:34
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epimethyes... but it doesn't set my default locale properly, so the perl errors appear again and again10:35
stdinwhat does "echo $LANG" show ?10:35
epimethen_US.ISO-8859-1510:36
epimetheven tho I've explicitly said I want UTF-810:36
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geniiso western european10:36
epimethhebrew, actually :-)10:36
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geniihmm10:37
unix_infidelwont take ikernel file eh, well booyah.10:37
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stdinepimeth: so you close the locale with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" ?10:37
epimethyup10:37
epimethutf-810:37
geniiYou may need i18 support10:37
epimethand nada10:37
epimethits like I never even ran the thing10:37
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stdinepimeth: and you have ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard and kubuntu-desktop installed?10:38
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epimethI *did* somehow manage to fix LANGUAGE="en_IL"... which made no sense... it is now he_IL, but I really want it to be en_US...10:38
epimethummm....maybe?  I didn't explicitly install any of them.  lemme check aptitude10:39
epimethunless there's a faster way?10:39
epimethapt-cache something?10:39
epimethgot them all, yes10:40
stdinepimeth: dpkg -l|egrep '(ubuntu-minimal|ubuntu-standard|kubuntu-desktop)'10:40
mjungoHi everyone. Im a Newbie and need some help finetuning Samba please. Someone please help me.10:40
epimethspkg -l = list all installed packages... good to know10:40
mjungoI searched the docs and I'm getting mor na dmore confued.10:40
stdinepimeth: what's in  /etc/environment ?10:41
genii!info hebubuntu10:41
ubotuPackage hebubuntu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas10:41
geniiHmm10:42
epimethI *swear* I changed that!10:42
epimethhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11310/10:42
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stdinepimeth: LANGUAGE does nothing, you need to set LANG10:42
stdinepimeth: it's normally done by reconfiguring localeconf10:43
epimethchanged them.. do I have to restart?10:43
epimethor just log out/log in?10:43
stdinlogin/out should do it10:43
mjungois there any _kubuntu_ specific documentation for setting up samba with edgy?10:43
hackdaddy_what were the commands to fix a broke synapse upgrade?10:43
epimethbrb10:43
stdin!samba10:44
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:44
mjungoubotu: thaks I will try again10:44
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hackdaddy_so far i have "sudo apt-get upgrade"10:44
hackdaddy_but the files are locked10:45
stdinhackdaddy_: error about /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?10:45
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exence_bonjour10:46
hackdaddy_yes, stdin10:46
stdin!aptfix10:46
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:46
exence_savez vous comment modifier la resolution ecran sous kubuntu10:46
hackdaddy_thanks, stdin10:47
hackdaddy_!aptfix10:47
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geniiIf synapse is still running you won't be able to run anything like apt-get or dpkg or so on10:47
stdin!fr | exence_10:47
ubotuexence_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:47
SilverSurferahah10:47
SilverSurferexence_ -> xorg.com10:48
SilverSurferexence_ -> xorg.conf10:48
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epimethnope... looks like I need to restart10:49
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epimethgrrr10:49
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epimethalso, whats with pacakges being held back from upgrade?10:49
epimethlibgphoto2-2 libgphoto2-2-dev ?/?10:50
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stdinepimeth: is that with apt-get/aptitude upgrade or dist-upgrade ?10:50
epimethupgrade10:50
epimethahhh10:50
stdintry with dist-upgrade10:50
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epimethdist-upgrade works10:51
epimethwhy does one and not the other?10:51
stdin!apt10:51
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)10:51
stdinlook at the info there10:51
stdinthere's a difference between the tow10:51
stdin*two10:51
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hackdaddy_thanks, stdin and others :-)10:52
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rafgoodmorning. i have installed kernel 2.6.20.3 custom on feisty and i canot complete a nvidia install using the installer...what can i do? has anyone had this issue?10:54
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stdinraf: feisty support/questions in #ubuntu+1 please10:55
geniiraf Maybe try #ubuntu+110:55
geniistdin Heh :)10:55
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mjungoHi Im getting nuts here. Can someone help me finetune my samba on Kubuntu 10.6 please, please!10:55
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kubuntuhow to play m3 in kubuntu10:55
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kubuntump310:55
stdin!mp310:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:56
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mjungokubuntu: you can also install and use automatix to handle that.10:56
stdin!automatix | mjungo, kubuntu10:57
ubotumjungo, kubuntu: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:57
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kubuntuis their any other mp3 player for kubuntu10:58
__-osh-__!beryl10:58
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:58
mjungostdin: I read through the documentation on the Samba thing and XP sees the server but I can not log on for the life of me. how do I get around this.10:58
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stdinkubuntu: most/all audio apps will play mp3s if you have the condec installed10:58
nonuda_stdin, how if i put *.deb in /var/cache/apt/archieves, does adep manager still downloading the file from the web?10:59
mjungostdin, Kubuntu: and automatix gives you the codec files.10:59
kubuntuis thier a player compatible fo kubuntu10:59
stdinmjungo: try setting "security = SHARE" in /etc/samba/smb.conf10:59
mjungostdin: will ahve a look.10:59
stdinmjungo: automatix is evil, don't use it10:59
epimethmjungo: security = ?11:00
stdinnonuda_: not if they have the right file name11:00
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nonuda_aha ok..i'm going to copy all of *.deb into my laptop..and doing some update tonight without the net..ok gtg bye11:01
stdinepimeth: like this http://pastebin.ca/40487711:01
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roly_how can i resize a kubuntu lvm on my hd11:02
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epimethstdin: I was asking what he set it is :-)11:02
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stdinepimeth: defaults to user11:03
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roly_how can i resize a kubuntu lvm on my hd11:03
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mjungostdin: thanks that worked. Makes my day.11:04
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[pyro] *yawn* hi guys11:05
epimethstdin: I've set up a pdc using samba... now *that* was a nightmare11:05
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geniiepimeth Yes, been there :)11:05
epimethstdin: yes... I know!  damnit, now I *know* I need coffee11:05
[pyro] ah, thanks :)11:06
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epimethsee you guys in a bit... there's a cute barrista down the block who's about to have her day brightened!11:06
[pyro] genii: i have a TX2 card on its way :)11:06
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geniiheh If I had a virtual cafe I'd be virtually rich :)11:06
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genii[pyro]  Cool :) They always worked for me, even under old FreeBSD etc11:07
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unix_infidelbarrista ftw :)11:07
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geniiJucato Thanks muchly :)11:09
Jucatois that a virtual thanks too? :D11:09
genii(tips heavily in virtual Canadian dollars)11:09
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kubuntuamarok11:10
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Jucatooops forgot the <-- :D11:11
mjungostdin: one slight problem remains with my smaba. It is read only although it says in the /etc/samba/smb.conf read only - no Any pointer how I can share it so I can write to it from Windoze?11:12
stdinmjungo: not sure, I'm not a samba expert (at all), I use swat to configure samba11:14
mjungohow did you get swat to run? I sistalled it but it does not run for some rason.11:14
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stdinmjungo: make sure you have inetutils-inetd installed11:15
stdinmjungo: or any inetd server11:15
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nomad111can any1 recommend a decent c ide11:20
nomad111not c++11:20
nomad111just c11:20
Jucatokdevelop can do C too11:21
nomad111wasnt kdevelop made for writing code related to kde11:21
waylandbillnomad111: kdevelop will do C since gcc will compile both.11:21
nomad111or is it general purpose11:21
Jucatoit's multilingual11:22
waylandbillnomad111: It's good for both kde and other programming tasks.11:22
nomad111cool ill grab it now11:22
geniiit's good for all kinds of things11:22
nomad111i cant use eclipse/cdt under windows11:23
nomad111doesnt work for me11:23
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geniinomad Normally what are you using in Windoze?11:24
genii^nomad111^11:24
nomad111everything related to my university studies11:24
nomad111i use it coz i cant find equivalent programs in kubuntu11:24
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geniinomad111 I mean as a compiler frontend11:24
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nomad111i used to use dev-c++ which uses gcc11:25
roland_why is kde on kubuntu slow11:25
nomad111and i was having trouble with it11:25
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waylandbillnomad111: which programs are you using that you can't find a linux replacement for?11:26
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nomad111waylandbill: mathematica11:27
nomad111waylandbill: c#, vb.net... (ms props)11:28
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nomad111waylandbill: office 200711:28
waylandbillmono is the implementation of .net, which you probably know and vb.net is being developed currently.11:29
RedIsDeadhi11:29
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waylandbillthere's a 2007 of M$ office? I didn't know there was past office xp. ;-) open office does just about everything I need to do.11:30
RedIsDeadI updated kubuntu yesterday and now kopete segfault11:30
[pyro] thats better11:30
geniiThere is a linux mathematica11:31
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nomad111ill have a look at that then11:31
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nomad111genii: i want matlab too, NOT octave lol11:31
nomad111there is a linux version of that11:32
nomad111but i havent gotten around to getting it11:32
geniinomad111: http://www.wolfram.com/news/presslinux.html11:32
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nomad111ye i just saw that11:33
geniiHmm C sharp might be an obstacle11:33
epimethanybody read a new kind of science? (wolfram)11:33
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nomad111genii: do u develop code11:35
geniinomad111: I wrote some code, yes11:36
nomad111c?11:37
tdnHi. I have a Asus P5N32 mainboard. On board is a wireless access point. I would like to enable this access point. But I do not know how to do this in Linux or if it is even supported. Can I please get some advice on this or maybe just some pointers to information about enabling on board access points in Linux in general?11:37
sandro__hi all .. i have a dual boot machine (grub) with windows and kubuntu 6.1 ... i just "found out" my linux mounts the windows harddrive (os on diff hdds not partitions) to /media/sdb1 .. thing is that harddrive is ntfs formatted/used .. is it "save" to write on that drive ? cause as i said the mount "is just there" and its NOT (ro)11:37
geniinomad111: fortran77,c,c+,pascal,lisp, and some others11:37
epimethdamn, genii... old(ish) school :-)11:38
geniimainly C these days but no huge projects11:38
geniiepimeth I didn't even mention assembly LOL11:38
waylandbillc,c++,perl,php maybe python some day. :-)11:38
epimethisn't that a given, tho :-)11:38
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geniiJucato :)11:39
sandro__(pity fortran developer (backus) just died btw)11:40
nomad111sandro__: so ive heard11:40
nomad111i want to learn python one day11:40
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nomad111genii: so are u familiar with kdevelop11:42
nomad111genii: hav u used it a lot, coz im getting an error11:42
epimethnomad111: http://www.python.org/  today is as good a day as any!11:42
geniinomad111: I'm usually writing my code in a text editor then just compiling at commandline11:43
sandro__no mean to bother you guys - just repeating my question in a different way :) ::: am i running into trouble (i wont test!) when writing to a mounted ntfs drive with kubuntu 6.1 ?!11:43
epimethsandro__: depends on which ntfs drivers you are using....11:43
nomad111genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11315/, i think this error is not related to kdevelop after reading through it11:43
epimethpastebin your /etc/fstab11:43
geniinomad111: OK, I'll have a look11:44
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nomad111genii: thx11:44
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_4strOyop yop11:45
epimethmy mate's come over.... I'm off to make lunch11:45
epimethsee ya guys later!11:45
Jucatoyou're mating? O>o11:45
JucatoO.o11:45
Jucatoaw he left :P11:45
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sandro__need a relog brb11:46
geniinomad111: Are you in #ubuntu-programming? If so I will post something there11:46
nomad111ok ill join there11:47
nomad111genii: im there11:47
geniiOK 1 moment11:47
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nomad111genii: i figured it out11:51
nomad111genii: needed to install libtool11:51
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geniiYou can also pass those other things in the make command11:52
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MinceRhay11:54
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faidillingerhi there, i am trying to get the last version of Kino, can someone please tell me what repository do i have to add please ?11:55
MinceRi don't know which program this bug is in (probably multiple), but with a kde+beryl setup, adept_notifier often refuses to go into the tray and exists as a separate window instead; what's worse, if it finds that there are upgradable packages, it gets out of the tray and puts X in a state where all keys (even ctrl+alt+f1, ctrl+alt+backspace, ctrl+alt+del and numlock) are ignored until i quit adept_notifier (with the mouse) -- at which moment all the ke11:55
MinceR(did my message get cut off?)11:55
Jucatoyes it was cutoff11:56
MinceRwhere?11:56
chijinat which moment all the ke11:56
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madmax!dialup11:58
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto11:58
MinceR-- at which moment all the keys are played back11:58
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MinceR(that's probably the strangest thing about it)11:58
Jucatoyou could probably as around in #ubuntu-effects if some people are experiencing the same thing... I vaguely remember something like that last month11:59
alexiconmorning people11:59
alexiconwhen you do a usermod, how do you force the update of that? do you have to logout/in?11:59
alexiconor is there a way around that12:00
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alexiconMinceR: i get the same issue on both my beryl installations, sometimes my volume taskbar icon flies out too... sometimes they all stay in @_@ im sure someones working on it12:01
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alexiconi dont have the issues with it messing up X however *_*12:01
MinceRi'm not too worried about those, i'm worried about the keyboard issue12:01
alexiconnod12:01
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alexiconare you on nvidia or ati MinceR12:02
alexiconanyone know about usermod?12:02
alexiconand while im about :P anyone know about apache(/rails)12:02
MinceRnvidia12:03
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alexiconMinceR: what do you mean when you quit all the keys are played back12:04
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MinceRwhat i perceived is that i tried to open terminals with a key bound to do it and nothing happened; when i quit adept_notifier, they began to start12:05
MinceRi assume this is due to the keys being replayed as nothing happened before12:05
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alexiconok so it locks the system then does the executions after its freed up again12:05
alexiconbut why the lock eh..12:05
alexiconhrmm12:06
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alexicondid you change much of the beryl-manager settings MinceR?12:06
MinceRnote that even ctrl+alt+backspace was ignored beforehand12:06
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MinceRi probably changed lots of them12:06
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IR8100Hey everyone, coud12:07
MinceR(i didn't wait till it could have effect after closing adept_notifier since the many terminals starting slowed down the system)12:07
IR8100could anyone tell me how to add a new wireless connection on kubuntu12:07
IR8100?12:07
alexiconyou can save your beryl profile and try using a default one and see if you still have those issues12:07
alexiconi havent been about much lately so dunno if its a common problem or what12:07
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IR8100I know the ssid and the password of the network12:07
alexiconIR8100: you try using wlassistant?12:08
IR8100yeah but the network I want to use doesnt apper12:08
IR8100appear12:08
IR8100I think its a hidden ssid12:08
alexiconok12:08
faidillingeris there a repository for cinelerra, kino or kdenlive please ???12:08
alexiconother networks appear?12:08
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IR8100[alexicon]  yeah12:09
alexiconwhoa cinerella? havent used that program in years heh :P12:09
MinceRalexicon: i think i'll try but it's hard to reproduce12:09
alexiconIR8100: use iwconfig to set the details12:09
IR8100anyway this network is hidden in windows too12:09
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faidillingerlol12:09
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IR8100[alexicon]  I used sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "EHU"12:10
IR8100but I dont know how to set the password there12:10
alexiconah12:10
alexiconits12:10
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alexiconsudo iwconfig eth1 key restricted "KEY"12:10
alexiconjust put the hex value in with no quotes and it should be fine12:10
IR8100but that would set the key for that essid?12:10
alexiconyep12:11
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alexiconthen run dhclient to connect after you set the password12:11
IR8100without saying that its for the EHU essid?12:11
IR8100weird12:11
alexiconrun the essid first12:11
alexiconif you run iwconfig eth1 essid EHU12:11
alexiconthen do just iwconfig12:11
alexiconyou will see the iface is set to EHU12:11
alexiconthen just set the password and it adds to that configuration12:12
IR8100ok so, I type iwconfig eth1 essid "EHU" then iwconfig eth1 key restricted "KEY"12:12
IR8100and that's it?12:12
alexiconthen sudo dhclient12:12
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alexiconthat should get you an ip if its using dhcp that is12:12
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alexiconthere are some better network managers IR810012:13
alexiconkwifimanager is pretty good12:13
chijini really like knetworkmanager12:13
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IR8100yeah but I cant get it till I get connected12:13
alexiconi did too til i broke it lol12:13
IR8100so I need to set a internet connction first12:13
alexicontrue true IR8100 :P12:13
IR8100oki12:14
alexiconbetter?12:14
IR8100I will try it then12:14
alexiconok12:14
IR8100one more question12:14
alexiconyep12:14
IR8100I know that the key is "EUSKALHERRIKO" how the hell I turn that to hex?12:15
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cHryo12:15
alexicontry it in plain text12:15
alexiconim not sure tho12:15
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alexiconthe router should tell you12:15
IR8100and how would it be in plain text? between quotes too?12:15
alexiconif you can get on the router you can see the hex key usually12:15
alexiconwell try both with and without the quotes12:16
alexiconsee if it works12:16
alexiconyou can also try iwconfig eth1 key on12:16
alexiconbut it should know you want it on when you configure it :P12:16
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alexiconalso12:16
alexiconif you have the hex value for the routers access point, that could help if the essid is hidden12:17
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[WaZ] hey12:21
[WaZ] where can I get the PFP signature for KDE 4 repository?12:21
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waylandbill[Waz] : may be on a keyserver.12:24
Jucato[WaZ] : from the same page where you got the repository from. the kubuntu.org announcement page12:24
[WaZ] okay ill dig deeper then, ty12:24
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[WaZ] Jucato: euh I son't see any PGP signature link...12:27
Jucato[WaZ] : which page are you looking at?12:28
[WaZ] http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.3.php12:28
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Jucatoah.12:29
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Jucato[WaZ] : use the key from this page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php12:30
[WaZ] ty12:30
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XYTTYhi12:49
mjungoI'm stuggeling to get a sama share to make it writable. I'm reading doumentation trying out things but its is not changing.12:49
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mjungoWhere is the best place to go to get help with that. Uning kuuntu 10.612:50
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Orange1whats cmd to find out my videocard?12:52
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meniskShould the hotkey Shift+Backspace be ending my seesion, and how do I change the hotkey?12:54
nomad111does any1 the name of the package containing windows fonts12:54
LinuxWorldanyone know where to get automatix12:54
LinuxWorldtheir website is offline12:54
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eeoshi everybody12:54
Orange1LinuxWorld: their website goes down alot... get it when its back up12:55
Orange1!automatrix | LinuxWorld12:55
ubotuLinuxWorld: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:55
LinuxWorlddo you have it12:55
Orange1LinuxWorld: i do not12:55
eeoshow do you switch on the php debugger in php.ini on kubuntu?12:56
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meniskHow do I edit hotkeys?12:56
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meniskAh, found it.12:57
nomad111!font12:57
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer12:57
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LinuxWorldautomatix is great tool and simplifies linux for ordinary users...my friends have best experiences with it----anyways thank you for kind help12:58
meniskShould Shift + Backpace end my session? It seams to but isn't in the hotkey list.12:58
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meniskseems*12:59
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LinuxWorldhad the hope that someone could send me the file, but ok ;-S12:59
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meniskShould Shift + Backpace end my session? It seems to but isn't in the hotkey list01:00
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alexiconfor ubuntu is the apache configuration at /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?01:07
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ubuntuhi01:13
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ubuntu__will i run into problems using a 20+ gig directory on a fat partition?01:22
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waylandbillubuntu__: directory should be okay. A single file can't be over 4 gig.01:23
ubuntu__thanks01:24
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JuJuBeeCan anybody direct me to a good ubuntu how-to on setting up nis?  I wish to start using a server for user accounts rather than creating them on workstation.01:30
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IR8100Hey01:44
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ArkaitzSomeone could tell me from where I can download the ubuntu-desktop for kubuntu?01:45
Arkaitz(I cannot do it from Kubuntu)01:45
Arkaitzso I would like to download the package in windows, save it to a flash drive01:46
Arkaitzand then Install it on kubuntu01:46
Arkaitzbut I dont know where to get it01:46
waylandbillArkaitz: this may help: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/01:46
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shadowhywindhay all01:47
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ubuntutest test, this is a test01:47
aspediaI have an USB Headset from logitech pluged in01:47
waylandbillubuntu: it failed. ;-)01:48
aspediabut I have no sound on headset01:48
shadowhywindtar'ing something and untarring it in windows wills screw up the files correct?01:48
aspediaits found correctly when I do lsusb01:48
aspediacan someone help?01:48
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Arkaitz[waylandbill]  I told you I was using windows right now, I CANNOT use Kubuntu (It doesnt connect to the internet I dont Know why)01:49
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fyrmedicHow do I set up wlan0 to access an ad-hoc network?01:52
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fyrmedicI tried using swscanner and Wireless lan manager without success01:52
fyrmedicHow do I set up wlan0 to access an ad-hoc network?01:53
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evoctoday I try to mount /dev/brain but no device is found01:54
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bartisthi all01:56
bartisti can't login in kde01:56
bartisti can in console01:56
bartisti wish to copy my home folder to my ipod to re-install01:56
bartisti type: copy /home/'username' /media/ipod/backup01:57
bartistbut it does not copy!!01:57
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dystopianrayhas anyone tried running 'tome' in edgy? it doesn't work here, it creates 7 windows and then doesn't do anything02:08
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ml--is there a keyboard combination for "show desktop"?02:20
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Jucatoml--: Ctrl+Alt+D02:22
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Jucatoyou can change it in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts02:22
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PhinnForthow can i see what status a program returns (0, 1, 20, etc.)?02:24
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PhinnFort!paste02:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:27
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Ryiel!utf-802:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about utf-8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
Ryiel!locales02:38
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf02:38
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Oweanis there any metapackage depending on all the necessary codecs for watching movies?02:39
PhinnFort!divx02:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:40
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hayden_how do i change from using the gdm to the kdm02:43
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AniHatzisKubuntu 6.10: Settings > System Admin > User Management (User Account Editor). Then click on "Administration Mode". Screen gets empty, but I'm not prompted to enter su password (as I'm used from other admin dialogs). Anyone has the same problem?02:46
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eilker!server02:48
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support02:48
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PhinnFort!client02:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about client - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:53
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bxnpcould somebody test a website for me cause this website breaks my system, i have to do a hard reboot02:56
PhinnFortbxnp: bring it on02:56
waylandbill:)02:56
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PhinnFortopera shall konquer the earth02:57
PhinnFortor something02:57
bxnphttp://www.daniel3d.com/pepeland/misc/3dstuff/ilum_normal/%5Bpepeland%5D-iluminating_with_normal_nodes.htm02:57
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bxnpyou have to wacht the tutorial PhinnFort02:57
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bxnpits a blender tutorial, but what happends with your system02:57
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Jucatomight want to also ask #khtml people to test02:57
PhinnFortbxnp: just have to load up opera first02:57
bxnpgood cause i allso use opera02:58
PhinnFortis it flash?02:58
bxnpyes02:58
PhinnFortah...02:58
PhinnFortwhat version of flash do you have?02:58
bxnpbut i never had problems with flash02:58
bxnpthe lastest PhinnFort02:58
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PhinnFortoki02:58
bxnpyou have to completely watch the tutorial and see what happens02:58
PhinnFortyaoki02:59
PhinnFortmy computer is getting a bit laggy, but I think that has with the fact that  i'm installing stuff...02:59
bxnpwell my system became nearly at the end of the tutorials to a crawling,. and my hd starts spinning03:00
PhinnFortcan ijust skip to the end03:00
bxnpno03:00
PhinnFort?03:00
PhinnFortok03:00
bxnpwatch it fully03:00
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bxnpbesides that its fun, maybe you want to use blender one day03:00
Jucatoblender is cool03:01
Jucatoit's what got me introduced to Linux :)03:01
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Jucatoeven though to this date I haven't really used it much lol03:01
bxnplol, same overhere03:01
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bxnpand PhinnFort03:01
PhinnFortyeah03:01
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bxnpdid you watch it03:02
PhinnFort:D03:02
PhinnForti'm watching it now03:02
bxnpno he is a new one03:02
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PhinnFortkinda wants me to pick up blender again03:02
bxnphe is a very famous animatior03:02
PhinnFort*makes me want03:02
bxnpand he is testing blender a bit03:02
CarinArrblender schlender03:02
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Jucatowho's a very famous animatior?03:03
PhinnFortme?03:03
PhinnForti've finished the tutorial, and nothing happened03:03
Jucatoreally?! wow03:03
PhinnForti'm kidding03:03
PhinnForti think bxnp misunderstood what i meant;)03:03
PhinnFortbut the tutorial didn't do any harm03:03
bigdad1ecan someone in here help me with fixing/building a website?03:03
bxnpoke, well then its a local problem i guess03:04
bxnpwich kubuntu version are you using03:04
PhinnFortand i'm even running lots of stupid programs (for testing) in the bg, like firefox and azureus03:04
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PhinnFort7.0403:04
PhinnFortor whatever feisty is03:04
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bxnpoke i am at 6.1003:04
PF-Awaybut now i'm going to eat dinner03:04
PF-Awaywhat version of opera?03:04
PF-Away9.10?03:04
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ErunnoHi all, I'm currently fighting with KDevelop's automatic indentation. It keeps ignoring my customized settings in the project options.03:05
Erunno It seems only to work with the indentation settings under "Extras". Any possible solutions to this problem ?03:05
CarinArri've used custom settings before Erunno03:06
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CarinArrnever had any problems as far as i can remember03:06
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CarinArrtho this is a while ago, i don't use kdevelop anymore03:06
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bigdad1ewhat is a good program to build websites?03:07
bxnpbigdad1e: use quanta03:07
starterhello, please tell me how to turn off the bouncing-icon effect when I click to activate any icon? I think I checked every option in the system settings03:07
bxnpbigdad1e: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/03:07
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bxnpyou can aptitude install quanta bigdad1e03:08
bigdad1ealready done03:08
bigdad1elol03:08
ErunnoI'm also getting a "Folder does not exist or is not readable" error message whenever I open the project settings.03:09
bxnpoke and what do you think of it bigdad1e03:09
jhutchinsstarter: It's something like startup notification.03:09
ErunnoAlthough I'm pretty sure that both things don't apply (it sure is readable and does exist :P )03:09
bigdad1ebxnp: its downloading now and installing03:09
sampanstarter  hit alt-F2  ... type "kcontrol" (without quotes), then under appearance & themes find "launch feedback" and put it to "no busy cursor"03:09
startersampan, thanks!03:10
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jhutchinsErunno: You might check in #kde - that's not a kubuntu specific problem.03:10
sampanstarter  you're welcome -- that bugged me for hours too until i found it :D03:10
bxnpdid you use apt-get or aptitude03:10
mastercadmoin03:10
Erunnojhutchins: Will do.03:10
jhutchinssampan: Thanks, been too long since my initial setup.03:11
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bigdad1ebxnp: it looks relitively simple. thank you03:11
JucatoErunno: or #kdevelop03:11
Daisuke_Idohmm, for a live cd demo of beryl, sabayon isn't bad (sorry for the heresy :)03:11
ErunnoJucato: Kdevelop seems to be in some kind of statis.03:11
bxnpits a very powerfull webbuilder bigdad1e03:11
sampanjhutchins  i had the same problem when i upgraded -- changed it on dapper and then went months and forgot how to turn it off when i upgraded to edgy -- such an annoying thing and so hard to find!03:11
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starterah damnit I thought the option might be erased from the kubuntu system settings :)03:12
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starterthanks again!03:12
starterstay well.03:12
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gissiGood day all03:13
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gissiDid anyone experienced a problem with Amarok on Feisty? When I add anything to the playlist it hangs03:14
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bigdad1ebxnp: thanks works like a charm03:17
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bxnpcool, and now tell me bigdad1e what kind off website are you going to make, is it going to be the next youtube :)03:19
Jucato!away > NSCAD_Nathan03:20
bigdad1ebxnp: no its something for my dad to sell his paintings. i already have it up but its shitty. www.normscustompaintings.com is what i did free hand but i think using somehting like this would make it easier and faster for me03:21
hak5fanhi does anyone know the php function/command used to redirect to a html page? Maybe someone knows of a better place to ask?03:21
bigdad1ebxnp: you can tell me how shitty it is. lol thats with maybe 2 days of learning html under my belt03:22
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bxnpbigdad1e: why dont you use a system for that03:22
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bxnpthere are enough open source solution for selling goods on the web03:22
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bigdad1ebxnp: ya but i wanted something that i could call mine you know?03:22
bxnpwell you could then write your own template03:23
bigdad1ebxnp: ebay is too simple for me03:23
bxnpto make it yours03:23
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bigdad1eif i do something like ebay i dont feel like i earned the money bc it takes a few mins to do that03:23
PF-Awaybigdad1e: how about joomla?03:23
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PF-Away!joomla03:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:23
PF-Away!mambo03:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mambo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:24
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Daisuke_Idowelcome to the american dream - earning money for doing nothing :D03:24
bigdad1ePF-away: whats joomla?03:24
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PF-Awaybigdad1e: it's a cms03:24
PF-AwayContent Management System03:24
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PF-Awaywith shopping-cart modules and everything else you might need03:25
PF-Awayhttp://www.joomla.org/03:25
bigdad1ePF-away: ya?03:25
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bigdad1ePF-away: free open source app?03:25
PF-Awayyup03:25
PF-Awaytheir slogan is "Because Open Source Matters", or something like that03:25
bigdad1ePF-away: simple?03:25
PF-Awayyeah03:25
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PF-Awayclicky-clicky interface03:25
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PF-Awaytakes maybe 5-minutes to get accustomed to, and then you're set to go03:26
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bigdad1ePF-away: wow03:26
resident_!beryl03:26
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:26
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bigdad1ePF-away: how do i install?03:26
PF-Awaybigdad1e: it's php, just upload03:27
PF-Awayand run the setup scripts03:27
bigdad1ehow do i do the scripts?03:27
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PF-Awaybigdad1e: just upload them to your webserver03:27
bigdad1eok03:27
bigdad1eperfect03:28
blue|palmI recently bought an hdd enclosure and installed a 300GB in it, and i first ran it on windows. In ubuntu however it is automatically mounted as a read only device... how can i solve this?03:28
blue|palmin *kubuntu03:28
PF-Awayblue|palm: is it ntfs?03:28
PF-Away!ntfs03:28
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:28
PF-Away!ntfs-3g03:28
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)03:28
blue|palmPF-Away: hmmm do you know if i can check it in any way?03:28
blue|palmPF-Away: I used the default formatting03:28
PF-Away!ntfs-3g | blue|palm03:28
ubotublue|palm: please see above03:28
PF-Awayblue|palm: did you format it in windows or kubuntu?03:29
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blue|palmPF-Away: I used the default formatting03:29
PF-Awayblue|palm: in windows or kubuntu? or didn't you format it at all?03:29
blue|palmPF-Away: I didnt format it, i used the default one that the internal drive i bought came with03:30
PF-Awayah, straight from the manufacturer03:30
blue|palmPF-Away: yes :)03:30
PF-Awayprobably ntfs03:30
PF-Away;)03:30
PF-Awayplease see the link from ubotu a bit up03:30
PF-Awayabout ntfs-3f03:30
PF-Away*ntfs-3g03:30
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blue|palmPF-Away: its a data drive... so I hope it will be safe using that driver :)03:30
PF-Awayblue|palm: ntfs-3g is probably safer than xfs03:31
bigdad1ePF-Away: where are you from? if i can ask03:31
PF-Awaywhich is what i use for my /home;)03:31
PF-Awaybigdad1e: norway03:31
bigdad1ePF-Away: no one really from the U.S uses linux is what im seeing03:31
blue|palmPF-Away: isnt xfs a seperate filesystem though?03:31
PF-Awayblue|palm: yup03:32
Daisuke_Idoi resent that :P03:32
blue|palmPF-Away: why do you use it over ext?03:32
bigdad1ewhat?03:32
PF-Awaybut what i mean is that the linux driver for ntfs-3g is safer than the xfs one03:32
Daisuke_Idoi'm a US-Dweller using linux03:32
bigdad1ewhy?03:32
PF-Awayblue|palm: it was faster when i set up my disks some years ago03:32
bigdad1ewhat part?03:32
PF-Awayin gentoo03:32
bigdad1eyour the first ive seen yet03:32
blue|palmPF-Away: I see, I heard Reiser v4 is the fastest, but i have no idea how to set it up03:33
Daisuke_Idosomewhere between chicago and toledo03:33
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PF-Awayblue|palm: it isn't that fast03:33
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PF-Awayblue|palm: ext3 actually owns it in most areas03:33
blue|palmPF-Away: Oh03:33
Daisuke_Idoi'm doing my bit to convert people03:33
PF-Awaylike deleting files, etc. (if i remember correctly)03:33
bigdad1elol im where between georga and cuba can you guess where? lmao03:33
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bigdad1esame here03:33
blue|palmPF-Away: im using ext3 atm till ext4 comes out, its good enough for me I suppose...03:33
PF-Awayblue|palm: if i did it today, i would have ext3 all over03:34
PF-Awayno reason to use ext4, afaik, if you don't have enormous disks03:34
blue|palmPF-Away: I have enourmous disks03:34
blue|palmPF-Away: 1.5 TB03:34
PF-Away100's of tera?03:34
blue|palmPF-Away: lol no03:34
PF-Awayah, that's nothing;)03:34
blue|palmPF-Away: haha03:34
PF-Awayi think ext4 is more of an answer to zfs03:35
blue|palmPF-Away: hmm That would be some serious server needing 100's of tera though03:35
gissiguys, found the problem, the MP3 support was missing, working Ok now. Question: Should I fill a bug for this? Amarok hangs when adding a MP3 to playlist without MP3 support03:35
bigdad1ewhat is the point of having that much memory?03:35
PF-Awayhard-drive space03:35
Daisuke_Idohmm03:35
Daisuke_Idoboca raton?  west palm beach?03:35
PF-Awayblue|palm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext403:35
bigdad1elol03:35
bigdad1ewpb03:35
blue|palmhas anybody got kfuseiso working?03:36
blue|palmit refuses to work03:36
bigdad1ehow did u find that out?03:36
resident_Guys, i installed beryl but it does not run, everytime i select beryl as window manager it switches back to kwin...03:37
Daisuke_Idoand the point of having that much storage space is simple.  every musical recording.  ever. :)03:37
resident_any clue?03:37
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Daisuke_Idoresident_: ati or nvidia?03:37
ForgeAushey all :)03:37
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resident_ati03:37
PF-Awayresident_: run it in a konsole03:37
PF-Awayit's probably just crashing03:37
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bigdad1eati03:37
blue|palmbigdad1e: ati's drivers are pathetic :)03:37
blue|palmbigdad1e: but you will be able to get it working03:37
blue|palmbigdad1e: with shocking performance however03:38
ForgeAusit?03:38
bigdad1eive been trying to get my ati working for a week now and just gave up03:38
DaSkreechHello03:38
blue|palmhas anybody got kfuseiso to work03:38
ForgeAusI wasn't able to get beryl working with my radeon 9600 AIO AGP card03:38
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blue|palmhas anybody got fuse to work in kubuntu?03:38
ForgeAusI don't use fuse for iso's in kubuntu03:39
ForgeAus(note theres also theres kiso)03:39
blue|palmForgeAus: what do you use then? pls tell03:39
bigdad1eblue|palm: do you know how to get it working? my ati vga?03:39
PF-Awayi use fuse for bombs03:39
blue|palmForgeAus: thanks03:39
PF-Away!ati03:39
ForgeAusiso:/ kioslave03:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:39
blue|palmbigdad1e: well get the driver working first03:39
PF-Away!beryl03:39
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:39
resident_PF-Away:03:39
resident_[14:49]  <[Mr_T] > inter-crosse03:39
resident_[14:49]  <[Mr_T] > jatszom03:39
ScarFreewilli took away the file menu in konqueror how to i get it back :P03:39
resident_damn03:39
PF-Awaywtf is Mr_T?03:39
PF-Away:P03:39
ForgeAusScar? you took it away?03:40
bigdad1eblue|palm: its working i just can get past the kubuntu loading/boot screen on start up03:40
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resident_sorry... wrong paste, it says: checking for xcomposite extensions: failed03:40
blue|palmbigdad1e: thats a driver issue03:40
bigdad1eblue|palm: i've tried everything03:40
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blue|palmbigdad1e: i was in your shoes once03:40
blue|palmbigdad1e: follow that driver guide03:40
blue|palm!ati03:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:40
ForgeAusresident for ati turn composite off in xorg.conf03:40
blue|palmyour xorg.conf could be messed up too03:40
bigdad1ethat did what it could didnt get it working lol03:40
ForgeAusI think its just a simple line like option "composite "Disable03:41
resident_ForgeAus: what should i look for?03:41
ForgeAusits in the howto03:41
resident_oh, ok03:41
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bigdad1eblue|palm: how do i find out if my xorg.conf file is corrupted?03:42
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ForgeAusbigdad1e corrupted?03:42
ForgeAusit should be just a text file03:42
ForgeAusyou READ it03:43
bigdad1eblue|palm: well messed up03:43
bigdad1ekate didnt open it lol so its not there03:43
PF-Away!paste03:43
ForgeAusif somethings added or missing you might need to fix it03:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:43
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ForgeAus(if you have a kubuntu live cd you might want to compare it?)03:43
bigdad1ethe file opened with nothing in it03:43
ForgeAusahh then somethings wrong03:43
blue|palmbigdad1e: go to a terminal03:43
bigdad1eim in it03:43
blue|palmbigdad1e: use recovery mode from bootup if you have to03:44
blue|palmbigdad1e: then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:44
blue|palmit will give you a wizard and you can select your defaults again03:44
blue|palmThe follow the ati driver guide03:44
resident_ForgeAus: You mean this one? Option  "Composite" "0"03:44
bigdad1ewhy can't it find my vga?03:45
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ForgeAusif ext4 is backward-compatible with ext3 and ext3 is backward compatible with ext2 then does that mean ext4 is backward compatible to ext2?03:48
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Skreechhas anyone used mercurial?03:51
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Skreech!mercurial03:52
ubotumercurial: Scalable distributed version control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 311 kB, installed size 1572 kB03:52
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enryhi03:53
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kubuntuhi03:54
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fdmeyer?03:55
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VJunhow to display chinese word in kubuntu ?03:55
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fdmeyerIs Palm Z22 compatible with Kpilot?03:56
bigdad1emkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri  is the command i have to do but it says permission denied. what do i do?03:56
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PF-Awayfdmeyer: try03:57
PF-Awaybigdad1e: put "sudo" in front of it03:57
Tm_T!skype03:57
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto03:57
PF-Away!ch03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
PF-Away!chinese03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
bigdad1ethats right didnt even look03:57
fdmeyerNot working - get "Unable to read sysem information from pilot"03:58
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PF-Away!palm03:59
ubotuA good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB03:59
PF-Awayfdmeyer: have you followed that one?03:59
fdmeyerWill try - thanks03:59
PF-Awaynp03:59
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PF-Awayfdmeyer: looks like you maybe have to press sync on the palm before you open kpilot04:01
PF-Awayfdmeyer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/359504:01
fdmeyerThanks04:02
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bigdad1eok i did my ati card its working but now i cant see maybe an inch of my screen to the left and 1/4 of it at the top04:03
fdmeyerLooks like pressing Sync first does the trick04:03
PF-Awaycool04:04
bigdad1e!ati04:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:04
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pollyoHello04:05
pollyoAnyone here familiar with copying cd's?04:05
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PF-Awaypollyo: yeah04:06
PF-Awayuse k4b04:06
PF-Away*k3b04:06
pollyoPF-Away: I tried it but it bombed on me.04:06
CarinArrk3b bombed?04:06
PF-Awaypollyo: did you set it up first?04:06
CarinArri haven't managed to crash it once04:06
PF-Awayk3b pwnz04:06
pollyoCarinArr: It didn't but the writing failed.04:06
PF-Away!worksforme04:06
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.04:06
PF-Awaypollyo: did you try with another CD?04:07
PF-Awayi once thought my cdrecord was b0rked, but it was only a faulty cd04:07
pollyoPF-Away: I was able to write a cd using files.04:07
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pollyoPF-Away: When I went to copy from one drive to another it wouldn't work.04:07
PF-Awaypollyo: are they on the same cable?04:07
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PF-Awaythen it won't work, no matter what program you use04:07
PF-Awaybut i think you can set k3b to copy it to disk, then write04:07
PF-Awaythat would work04:07
pollyoPF-Away: Yes they are on the same cable.04:08
bxnpbigdad1e: how is quanta working04:08
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PF-Awaypollyo: then you can't copy directly04:08
CarinArryou can create temporary copy first, that's normaly recommended anyway04:08
pollyoPF-Away: Ok.  So copy it to file then copy it to disk?04:08
PF-Awayhook off "on the fly" or something04:08
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bigdad1eperfect04:09
pollyoPF-Away: Ok.  Will that preserve the tracks or will it make it all one track?04:09
PF-Awaypollyo: it will make an exact cioy04:09
PF-Away*copy04:09
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tcleval hi, i want to format my /dev/hdd (/dev/dvdrw) as ext3 to use it as a fake-HD  for backups, but it says i cant write to it, i am as root and  I set it to rw, but i cant write to it with fdisk/cfdisk, any solution?  heeeeeeeeeellp please04:09
bigdad1ebxnp: i got my vga working but part of my screen is missing04:09
pollyoPF-Away: Ok.  Thanks.  I'll go give it a try...04:09
pollyoBRB04:09
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bxnpoh, that is not good,04:10
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bigdad1enot at all04:10
bxnpdid it just happened or did you already had problems with your screen bigdad1e04:10
bigdad1ejust now04:10
bigdad1etheres atleast an inch to the left i cant see04:10
tdnI want to connect to a wireless network that is using WPA/PSK from Kubuntu. How do I do thsi?04:11
bxnpbut why dot you restart04:11
bxnpthe xserver04:11
bigdad1ei picked the right resolution in the wizard 1440*90004:12
bxnptdn: install knetworkmanager04:12
pollyoPF-Away: If I have two controllers and put the drives on different cables will the two drive method work for the most part?04:12
bxnpand its as easy like doing it on windows04:12
tdnbxnp, done.04:12
bxnpwell click on the network you want to connect too04:12
PF-Awaypollyo: probably04:12
bigdad1ebxnp: brb04:12
bxnpand if everything works its asking you to provide the passprase/password tdn04:13
pollyoPF-Away: It is reading the track information now.  I'll know in a few minutes if it is going to work.04:13
PF-Awaycool04:13
bxnpthe knetworkmanager is in your taskbar04:13
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bxnpif you start it04:13
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PF-Awayif you don't start it, it might not be there04:14
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bxnptdn: is it working04:14
bxnpyou have to check that you want to use encryption04:15
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bxnpand there you get options about what kind of encryption,04:15
tdnbxnp, no. I cannot see any networks in it.04:15
bxnpwhat does it says04:16
bxnpis your network card working and does it support wpa04:16
bigdad1ebxnp:  how do i get back into the wizard for my vga?04:16
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tdnbxnp, do I need wpagui or wpasupplicant to be installed?04:16
tdnbxnp, yes it is, and yes it does.04:17
pollyoPF-AWAY: It is asking to Load / Eject / Force?  Any suggestions  Should I try Load?04:17
bxnpoke is wireless networking enabled04:17
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bxnpin knetworkmanager04:17
PF-Awaypollyo: eject, put in an empty cd, load, and wait04:17
tdnbxnp, I think so. I am online from an open WLAN right now.04:17
tdnbxnp, 02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)04:17
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Bertomy kde panel is frozen.  how do i restart it?04:18
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bxnpbut in knetworkmanager is it enabled04:18
tdnbxnp, yes. It is enabled in knetworkmanager.04:18
pollyoPF-Away: Uggg....04:18
PF-AwayBerto: alt+f2, and then "killall kicker"04:18
bxnpoke, and it does not show anything04:18
PF-AwayBerto: or hit ctrl+alt+esc and click on it04:18
BertoPF-Away, my f-keys are broken, but i have a terminal anyway... killall kicker doesn't work04:18
PF-AwayBerto: ctrl+alt+esc04:18
BertoPF-Away, ok control alt escape worked, didn't know about that.  it's not yet rebooting kicker tho!04:18
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BertoPF-Away, isn't there a service that should restart?04:19
PF-AwayBerto: "kicker"04:19
PF-Awayalt+f2, kicker04:19
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pollyoPF-Away: cdrecord return an unknown error (code 255) "f you are running an unpathced cdrecord version and this error also occurs with high uality media and the k3b faq does not help you pleas include the debugging output in your problem report."04:19
PF-Awayhave you run the k3b setup thingy?04:19
BertoPF-Away, thanks.  something is seriously wrong with my kicker it seems. had to killall -9 kicker, now it restarts as a dead blank bar04:19
tdnbxnp, what to do?04:20
pollyoPF-Away: It seems to work using files though.  Guess I have to dig deeper into the info.  Are you using the stadard cdrecord that is installed in kubuntu?04:20
PF-AwayBerto: probably a bad apple(t)04:20
JuJuBeeCan someone here assist me in getting NIS working?  I installed on server and client (as per doc's on web), but not getting the list of users on client.04:20
pollyoPF-Away: Is that in one of the drop down menus or a different startup application?04:20
PF-Awaypollyo: cdrecord isn't included in ubuntu any longer04:20
BertoPF-Away, yeah, how do i configure the applets i have without kicker running?04:20
PF-AwayBerto: look around in .kde/share/apps/kicker04:20
PF-Awayin your home dir04:20
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pollyoPF-Away: Oh...04:21
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ubuntuhi04:21
BertoPF-Away, nothing.  oh well, i'll mess with it later, no time to BS with garbage software today04:21
bxnpstrange, i have this http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/knet.png at my knetworkmanager04:21
ubuntualgun spaol??04:21
PF-AwayBerto: you could just delete the whole folder to get a plain kicker04:21
PF-Away!es04:22
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:22
pollyoPF-Away: ARe you asking if I did Settings/ K3bSetup ?04:22
PF-AwayPF-Away: yeah04:22
ubuntuthx04:22
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PF-Awaypollyo: i think ubuntu uses the cdrecord replacement "wodim"04:22
pollyoPF-Away: I looked at it but wasn't sure if I needed to change anything.04:22
PF-Awaypollyo: it should do stuff automagically04:23
PF-Awaypollyo: also, try burning as root04:23
PF-Awayi remember i had problems burning as a normal user under gentoo04:23
pollyoPF-Away: Should Burning group be checked or unchecked.  It is unchecked by default.04:23
PF-Awayjust leave it at defaults04:23
pollyoPF-Away: How do I start it as root?  sudo k3b ?04:24
CarinArrthik so04:24
PF-Awaykdesu k3b04:24
PF-Awaymuch prettier;)04:24
waylandbillk3b will not want to burn dvds as root04:25
PF-Awayafaik, 255 is a permissions error04:25
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PF-Awaywaylandbill: it does here04:25
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Ace2016Hi all04:25
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Ace2016adept says that there is a new version of kubuntu available04:25
Ace2016should i update now?04:25
PF-Awayit won't burn dvd's as a normal user, though04:25
Ace2016isn't it still in beta?04:25
waylandbillhmm. I thought growisofs didn't want root.04:25
PF-AwayAce2016: it's still beta04:25
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PF-Away!feisty04:25
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)04:25
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pollyoPF-Away: I noticed they have version 1 of K3b on the website.  Have you looked at it?04:26
PF-Awaywaylandbill: i've copied dvd's running k3b in root, because i got error 255 as a normal user04:26
Ace2016PF-Away: any idea why adept's update wizard says that there is a new version? and asks me to click if i want to upgrade?04:26
PF-Awaypollyo: no04:26
PF-AwayAce2016: because you can if you want to beta test;)04:26
PF-Awayprobably04:26
waylandbillPF-Away: it should burn dvds as normal user when set up correctly.04:26
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pollyoPF-Away: Perhaps that is the same problem I am having with the CD copy.  It was a 255 error.04:26
romeowhere can i find "software resources" in Kubuntu?04:26
PF-Awaypollyo: that was what i was thinking;)04:27
Ace2016i mean04:27
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pollyowaylandbill: Did you have to change the burning group to allow it to burn as a non root user?04:27
waylandbillwhat is error 255 btw?04:27
PF-Awayi run feisty, but...04:27
PF-Away!worksforme04:27
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.04:27
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waylandbillpollyo: yes. I used a burning group and added my user to it.04:27
Ace2016no no no no no no no no no no no no04:27
Ace2016i clicked it04:27
PF-Awaywaylandbill: i think it is related to permssions04:27
Ace2016and its doing something04:27
Ace2016and i'm in kde04:27
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PF-AwayAce2016: run;)04:27
pollyowaylandbill: It is unknown error type.04:28
Ace2016well its not that abd04:28
Ace2016bad*04:28
Ace2016this isn't my computer04:28
pollyowaylandbill: That is what it reported error 255 to me as.04:28
PF-Awayamarok is sexy04:28
eagles0513875is there an internet explorer equivilent here in kubuntu04:28
PF-Awayeagles0513875: Konqueror04:28
eagles0513875ok04:29
PF-AwayK-Menu -> Internet -> Konqueror04:29
eagles0513875ok04:29
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eagles0513875i really want to avoid going into my windows partition04:29
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PF-Awayit is even the default file browser04:29
PF-Away!ie04:29
ubotuFor Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort04:29
eagles0513875lol i use firefox more than it04:29
PF-Away!internet_explorer04:29
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PF-Awayeagles0513875: you can get internet explorer under ubuntu, too04:30
PF-Awaywith Wine04:30
waylandbill:-O04:30
Ace2016it said to launch the update tool, what is that?04:30
eagles0513875how04:30
eagles0513875how do i do that pf04:30
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eagles0513875lol04:31
pollyoeagles0513875: You can install ie4linux if you have wine installed.04:31
eagles0513875ok how do i install it04:31
eagles0513875i already have wine04:31
chijinhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ies4linux04:31
PF-Away!ie4linux04:31
PF-Away!ies4linux04:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:31
arkherstrke bilen varm04:31
arkhers???04:31
PF-Away!tu04:31
romeoI am reading a HOWTO that says that I should to to "Software Sources"... Where can i find that in KUBUNTU?04:31
waylandbillgoodness. I wouldn't bother with IE.04:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ies4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:31
eagles0513875lol ya but my online math homework only works with ie04:31
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eagles0513875which suxs04:31
PF-Awayromeo: it's probably repositories04:31
pollyoeagles051387: Let me see if I can find you the link.  Do you specifically need internet explorer or would another browser be ok for you?04:32
PF-Awayromeo: go to Adept04:32
eagles0513875yes i do polly04:32
romeoPF-Away: ok thanks04:32
PF-Away!repositories04:32
pollyoeagles051385: brb04:32
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:32
waylandbillwhy does it need IE? activex or soemthing?04:32
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eagles0513875i guess so04:32
eagles0513875if i can find a way to contact the site admin ill recommend r and d for linux support04:33
jhutchinseagles0513875: Sometimes you can have an alternate browser tell a site that it's IE and the site will work.04:33
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Skreech!wifi04:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:33
PF-Away!narrowfi04:33
jhutchinseagles0513875: Go for "Firefox Support" - firefox is used a lot more than linux.04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about narrowfi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
pollyoeagles0513875: Just put ies4linux in google and it should be the first link that comes up.04:33
PF-Awaygo for Opera support, Opera is superior04:33
chijini use IE for checking what my site looks like in windows04:33
eagles0513875ive tried but it says taht it has to be ie04:33
eagles0513875ies or ie4linux04:34
PF-Awaychijin: i honestly don't care what my site looks like in ie;)04:34
pollyoeagles0513875: with the S ies4linux04:34
PF-Awayit validates in w3c's checker, so it shouldn't look to bad, though04:34
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eagles0513875is it ie4linux or ies4linux poolly04:34
pollyoeagles0513875: It installes ie5 - ie6 if you want.04:35
eagles0513875ok04:35
eagles0513875woot one step closer to getting rid of windows for good lol04:35
pollyoeagles0513875: With the S  "ies4linux"04:35
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PF-Awayhttp://www.tatanka.com.br/04:35
eagles0513875i was asking if it was ies4linux or ie4linux04:35
eagles0513875i thought there was a spelling error04:35
PF-Awayeagles0513875: http://www.tatanka.com.br/04:35
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BluesKaj!IE04:36
ubotuFor Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort04:36
PF-Awaybut i keep getting "Internal Server Error"04:36
eagles0513875same pf i tried the 3rd one04:36
chijinPF-Away: you start caring when people are actually buying your sites :-P04:36
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PF-Awaychijin: well, i'm not a professional web-dev04:36
PF-Away:D04:36
PF-Awayfreedom ftw04:36
BluesKaj!Internet-Explorer04:37
eagles0513875!internet explorer04:37
pollyoeagles0513875: I installed it about a week ago.  Let me see if I bookmarked the site.  It could be that they are having server problems.04:37
PF-Awaychijin: if you want, could you check if my site do look like crap in ie?: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/04:37
BertoPF-Away, haha it was xmms-applet that was killling my kicker.  Either xmms or the applet froze, killing everything :)04:37
rysiek|plhi all04:37
BluesKajnope, won't bite, eagles051387504:37
eagles0513875damn if thats the case ill have to leave u guys for the dreaded winblows04:37
jhutchinsIf you guys want to search the bot for info, use the search link it provides.  It's much more searchable, and it doesn't clutter the channel.04:37
PF-AwayBerto: darn xmms;)04:37
BertoPF-Away, thanks for the control-alt-escape trick though04:37
PF-AwayBerto: np04:38
BertoPF-Away, yeah i've been using it FOREVER (since it was x11amp) and won't move off.  It doesn't get as much devlopment tho04:38
eagles0513875im going to c on sourceforge04:38
rysiek|plguys, remind me which package needs to be dpkg-reconfigured in order to change the hostname?04:38
Bertonew to kde/ubuntu04:38
PF-AwayBerto: tried amarok?04:38
PF-Awayit's darn sexy04:38
PF-Away:D04:38
BertoPF-Away, yeah, too fat04:38
PF-Awayeagles0513875: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/running-internet-explorer-in-ubuntu-linux.html04:38
chijinPF-Away: it's pretty much the same, but the fonts are of course different04:38
BertoPF-Away, and i have my lirc plugin working with xmms so i'm happy04:38
sstchurare there any add-ons for KMenu that would achieve something similar to the task-oriented/search menu that Suse 10.2 ships with?04:38
PF-Awaychijin: ok, thanks04:38
eagles0513875ty pf04:38
BluesKajsorry, just adding a bit of levity , jhutchins04:38
chijinPF-Away: also, the images have blue frames04:38
PF-Awaysstchur: the menu is called "kickoff"04:39
chijinPF-Away: you might want to speficy the border-color for the images04:39
PF-Awaysstchur: i saw some .deb's for it somewhere04:39
CarinArri use amarok but for some reason i can't get it to transfer my playlists to the ipod04:39
jhutchinsBluesKaj: no prob, it's just that it's a good resource if you're looking for stuff.04:39
PF-Awaychijin: noted;)04:39
PF-Awaybasket pwns04:39
CarinArror rather it copies them over but the ipod doesn't recognise them04:39
sstchurPF-Away: thanks, I'll do some searching04:39
PF-Away!kickoff04:39
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233104:39
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Frederickfolks after upgrading for feisty my xserver is dead. It reports no screen found and I got a exotic hardware here a mobility radeon 900004:41
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pollyoeagles0513875: the ies4linux site is loading for me now.04:42
eagles0513875ok04:42
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BluesKajwhy would you want ies4linux ?04:42
PF-AwayBluesKaj: he needs it for his math-homework04:43
PF-Awaymaybe mathml or something04:43
pollyoBluesKaj: If you need to access websites that are specifically designed for ie.04:43
Daisuke_Ido!kickoff04:43
PF-Awaywhere can i find automake 1.6?04:43
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233104:43
BluesKajaha, ...they still exist ?04:43
pollyoBluesKaj: If you are a web developer and want to view a page in ie versions.04:43
PF-AwayBluesKaj: they do in abundance, unfortunately;)04:43
Daisuke_Ido...  i thought there was a package04:43
PF-AwayDaisuke_Ido: i think it is on kde-apps.org04:44
eagles0513875i think my firefox is busted04:44
PF-Awayeagles0513875: use Konqueror or Opera04:44
BluesKajI haven't encountered any in ages, PF-Away04:44
eagles0513875firefox04:44
pollyoeagles0513875: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page04:44
PF-AwayBluesKaj: me neither, but i hear of them every now and then;)04:44
eagles0513875now trying in konqueror04:44
BluesKajyup FF renders well04:44
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eagles0513875in firefox it doesnt load the pg at all04:44
PF-Away!automake1.604:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automake1.6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
eagles0513875it says taht its done loading the pg04:44
Frederickis there any command to ask for x configure it self in kubuntu?04:45
eagles0513875!automake04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:45
PF-AwayFrederick: X -configure or something04:45
PF-Awaylook in the gentoo manual04:45
jhutchinsFrederick:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:45
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comp09salut04:46
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wftlSalut04:46
fimushkasalut04:46
pollyoPF-away: Any idea how to rip an iso file from the cd and save it to burn later?04:46
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PF-Awaypollyo: use dd04:47
pollyoPF-away: I have to give this cd back to the guy from the band later today.04:47
PF-Awaydd if=/dev/hdd1 of=isotihngy.iso04:47
PF-Awayreplace /dev/hdd1 with your cdrom-drive04:47
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pollyoPF-Away: Thanks.  How do I write it back?  Would I use K3b?04:48
PF-Awayyup04:48
eagles0513875woot it installing04:48
pollyoPF-Away: Ok thanks!04:48
PF-Awaywrite cd-image or somthing04:48
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PF-Awaynp04:48
eagles0513875hopefully i dont break something04:48
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PF-Awayhey, isn't the sky coming closer?04:48
eagles0513875how do they get msft stuff to work with linux04:48
eagles0513875not to mention its getting hard to get hold of msft stuff isnt it04:49
pollyoeagles0513875: It was an easy setup.  Hope it goes as smooth for you as it did me.04:49
eagles0513875ill keep uposted polly04:49
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miltoshi ppl:-] 04:49
miltosi want beryl to start up every time a start kubuntu...04:50
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waylandbill!autostart | miltos04:50
ubotumiltos: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.04:50
eagles0513875polly how many things did it have to dl04:50
eagles0513875nm04:51
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eagles0513875polly how do i run it04:51
pollyoeagles0513875: Depends on how many versions you opted to install.04:51
eagles0513875i think all 304:51
eagles0513875how do i get it to run04:51
PF-Awayhow can i get the kde headers?04:51
pollyoeagles0513875: It put an icon for IE on my KDE desktop04:51
eagles0513875nice ty04:52
eagles0513875woot it work04:52
eagles0513875s04:52
eagles0513875yay04:52
PF-Away;)04:52
eagles0513875j/w r linux antivirus solutions better than windows ones04:52
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Frederickthanks folks it is fixed04:53
Frederickhow do I change the size of the icons in kde? :p04:53
PF-AwayFrederick: under appearance in the system settings04:53
bxnpkcontrol Frederick04:53
PF-Awayor kcontrol04:53
PF-Awayi never understood why they replaced kcontrol04:53
PF-Awayin kubuntu04:54
miltosthanks...i will be back04:54
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eagles0513875polly how do i change my active x settings04:54
pollyoeagles0513875: I haven't played with that portion.  Wouldn't it be in option under one of the drop down menus in IE?04:55
romeo!tar04:55
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression04:55
eagles0513875i got it polly04:55
Daisuke_Idoplay, now i remember i was able to set kickoff up before, but now it doesn't want to work :\04:55
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Daisuke_Idoerr. not sure where the play part came from :(04:56
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Oweanhow do i compare two dirs?04:56
Oweanin console04:56
Oweanis there anything similar to diff, but for dirs?04:56
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Frederickcool my system is back in order04:57
eagles0513875anyone know much about ie4linux04:57
eagles0513875i am having activex issues says the security settings r too high to download them04:58
Frederickeagles0513875: maybe you couls try wine04:58
Frederickcould04:58
eagles0513875? what u mean frederick04:58
Frederickeagles0513875: maybe the native internet explorer in windows beeing run by wine could work better04:58
eagles0513875im in kubuntu04:59
eagles0513875and it automatically runs using wine04:59
eagles0513875when i click on desktop shortcut04:59
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pollyoeagles0513875: I found this just now: http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/activex-linux.php05:00
eagles0513875ok05:00
eagles0513875ty polly05:00
eagles0513875polly is ur name registered05:00
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pollyoeagles0513875: It discussess thinkgs like .net and the settings for active X and it is specifically discussing ies4linux.05:00
pollyoeagles0513875: Yes05:01
eagles0513875may i pm polly05:01
miltosi add the "beryl-manager" command on kcontrol-autostart and when kde starts i receive the message "The desktop entry file /home/miltos/.kde/Autostart/beryl.desktop has no Type=... entry."05:01
pollyoeagles0513875: Sure.05:01
Daisuke_Idois there an audio editor better (or at least less ugly) than audacity?05:02
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Daisuke_Idomiltos: Type=Application05:02
Daisuke_Idoexcept that can't be right05:02
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eagles0513875did u get my pm polly05:03
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pollyoeagles0513875: Did you get my response?05:03
soulriderhi everyone05:03
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Skullermy k3b cant handle mp3...how do i make it do so?05:03
miltosDaisuke_Ido ...next to beryl-manager?05:04
soulriderSkuller: theres a pckage you gotta install, let me trya nd remember the name05:04
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Skullersoulrider: sure...help appreciated05:04
pollyoSkuller: I think you need was it libdcss2 or something like that?05:04
eagles0513875no polly do /msg nickserv identify and ur password05:04
soulriderpollyo: thats for playing DVDs05:04
Skullerpollyo: i have libdvdcss205:04
eagles0513875that should log u in05:04
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pollyoSkuller: Sorry.  Got it mixed up.05:05
Skullernp05:05
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soulriderSkuller: try installing libk3b2-mp305:05
Skullersoulrider: roger that...thanks05:05
eagles0513875did u login polly05:05
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pollyoeagles0513875: Yes.05:06
soulriderSkuller: i think thats all you need05:06
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Skullersoulrider: thanks...its all sweet now05:07
soulriderSkuller: cool!05:07
Frederickwich is the name of the clock applet in kde? so I can add it to the menu bar?05:08
soulriderFrederick: clock :P05:08
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Skullerlol05:08
Jucato!changethemes | romeo05:09
uboturomeo: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu05:09
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wftlHello all. Possible Feisty/OpenOffice problem. In trying to run OpenOffice on my Kubuntu Feisty system, I get "no suitable windowing system found, exiting."05:10
wftlThis is followed by "** (process:11001): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ..."05:10
wftlThen it's over. I've found a few entries that suggest loading libstartup-notification0, but that has already been done.05:10
wftlIdeas?05:10
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soulriderwftl: i think you shoudl ask in #ubuntu+1 thats all fesity there05:10
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wftlsoulrider: Sure. I can do that. I'll monitor this to see if any ideas crop up. Thanks.05:12
soulriderno prob05:12
jhutchinswftl: Current oo has some serious problems, it crashes on opening documents here.05:12
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soulriderjhutchins: on edgy ?05:12
jhutchinsMandriva actually.05:13
wftljhutchins: I don't even get to open documents. It crashes on startup.05:13
jhutchins200705:13
romeoHow do i istall the KDM theme manager? I got errors when it ried to install it05:13
soulriderjhutchins: ive had bad experiences with mandriva, at least with the 2006 version05:13
soulrideri thought it was crap05:13
CarinArrwhat errors romeo?05:13
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romeoCarinArr: when i type ./configure it says C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check05:14
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romeoin the end05:14
edward_hi05:14
soulriderromeo: you trying to compile it yourself ?05:14
soulriderhi edward_05:14
PF-Awayromeo: you're supposed to already have it installed05:14
CarinArrromeo: have you installed build-essential?05:14
Hrontoreokay im trying to add a font to my wine fonts folder, how do i know if i have to right folder05:15
romeosoulrider: I have no idea what i am doing:) i am new to this. I just read on its webpage it said i have todo that, then make, then make install.. so i tried it, didnt work05:15
edward_I just upgraded to feisty and I have some major problems... is this the right room?05:15
waylandbill!build05:15
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CarinArrromeo: you can also just install the kdm theme manager using adept05:15
romeoPF-Away: I checked but i could not find it..05:15
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:15
eagles0513875yes it is ed05:15
Hrontorenm05:15
soulriderromeo: did you downlaod it from some site or something ?05:15
PF-Awayromeo: it is in system settings05:15
PF-Awayi think05:15
romeoCarinArr: I dont kow if i have build-essential.. what name to search for?05:15
PF-Awayor at least in kcontrol05:15
soulrideredward_: you should go to #ubuntu+105:15
romeosoulrider: yes.. the source..05:15
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waylandbilledward_: #kubuntu+105:15
CarinArrPF-Away: it's not installed by default05:16
edward_ok well it wont let me log in with the new kernel, only with 2.6.17-1005:16
soulriderohh romeo, dont do that mate05:16
PF-AwayCarinArr: it came here by default, afaik05:16
PF-Awaysince KDM is themed by default05:16
edward_it says VFS error cannot load OS on block 0,0 ... something like that05:16
CarinArri had to explicitly install it the other day05:16
soulriderromeo: i think you cna download it from the repos and have it installed automatically, let me check05:16
CarinArrkdm is installed, the theme manager isn't. at least not on my clean edgy kubuntu install05:16
comp05FRFRF05:16
soulriderCarinArr: thats weird05:16
CarinArrromeo: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme05:17
edward_ok i'll try kubuntu+1...05:17
soulrideredward_: Ubuntu not Kubuntu05:17
CarinArrromeo: you have to have universe repository enabled05:17
soulriderCarinArr: i dont think it sin universe =/05:17
romeoCarinArr: ok thanks i will put it on and check.05:17
CarinArrsoulrider: it is according to the .deb info05:17
soulriderCarinArr: do this command "sudo aptitude install kdm kdmtheme"05:18
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CarinArrsoulrider: i have it installed already05:18
soulrideri meant romeo, do this command "sudo aptitude install kdm kdmtheme"05:18
soulriderromeo: that will isntall kdm and kdmtheme05:18
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soulriderromeo: you got this error right after a clean install ?05:18
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romeosoulrider: It says couldnt find any named kdmtheme05:19
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soulriderok, we can fix that05:19
soulriderdo05:19
Tm_T!opera05:19
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:19
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soulridersudo aptitude install kdm05:19
soulriderthat will install just kdm05:19
romeoyeah i got the kdm installed already05:19
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soulriderwhat it is that youre trying to install now ?05:20
romeoThe theme manager? I saw it on kde-look.org so i can install themes ?05:20
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soulriderahh05:20
Jucato!changethemes | romeo05:20
uboturomeo: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu05:20
Jucato(again)05:20
romeooh must have missed that Jucato sorry05:20
soulriderlol, hi Jucato05:20
Jucatohi soulrider :)05:21
soulriderhow are you ?05:21
CarinArrwhy not just install the kdm theme manager...05:21
soulriderJucato: do you know if theres some FAQ for newbies explaining how to install software, what repos are and stuff like that ?05:21
Jucatohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware05:22
soulriderJucato: i see theya ll try to install the drivers and stuff from what they get from sites before comming on ITC05:22
Jucatoand the Kubuntu Desktop Guide05:22
Jucatosoulrider:  unfortunately that's a habit carried over from that other OS05:22
jhutchins!software | soulrider05:22
ubotusoulrider: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents05:22
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Jucatoto most people, the concept of repositories is too good to be true05:23
soulriderJucato: yeah05:23
soulrideryesterday i explained all about repos to someone05:23
CarinArr!repositories05:23
soulriderand he was all shocked! :P05:23
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:23
Jucato:)05:23
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Skullerlol05:23
soulriderJucato: im gonna see if theres a guide like that for spanish, if theres not im gonna translate it05:23
CarinArrromeo: look at the above link and follow instructions to enable the universe repository, then do sudo apt-get install kdmtheme05:24
jhutchinsThere are so many HOWTOs out there that practically still begin with "first download and patch the latest kernel sources".05:24
Jucatorepositories - an online repository (a.k.a. storage) of programs, libraries, and other stuff packaged and tested to run on your system :)05:24
Aw0Ldoes anyone know how to increase mouse sensitivity (NOT pointer acceleration)?05:24
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romeoCarinArr: i enabled the universe resp, but still didnt work :D05:24
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Skullerimagine a pirate central repo for Mzoft's softs05:24
soulrideri cant wait til feisty comes out so we dont ahve to explain everyone how to enable multiverse and universe :P05:24
eagles0513875what u mean skull05:24
CarinArrromeo: have you done sudo apt-get update?05:24
soulriderromeo: you need to do sudo aptitude update05:24
jhutchinsromeo: Did you udate?05:24
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CarinArrheh05:24
Daisuke_Idosoulrider: is ubuntu's philosophy changing?05:24
jhutchinsding, ding, ding!05:24
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jhutchinsDaisuke_Ido: Regarding what?05:25
Daisuke_Idoregarding proprietary packages (universe and multiverse)05:25
soulriderDaisuke_Ido: im almost sure they will be enabled by default05:25
Skullereagles0513875: i was just wondering what it would be like if there was a repo for pirated softs in the windows world...piracy would be all you would see05:25
CarinArrfeisty doesn't use universe/multiverse?05:25
romeoCarinArr, soulrider and jhutchins, do you mean if i updated everything? If so, yes i did.. I updated everything i could update05:25
CarinArrromeo: no, you have to run "sudo apt-get update" to update the lists from the repositories05:25
Daisuke_Idothat will be nice though05:25
soulriderromeo: you need to type "sudo aptitude update" after enabling the repos05:26
Jucatoenabled by default != installed by default05:26
Daisuke_Idogood point05:26
Jucatoin fact, the mp3 codec in feisty is already in main. but not installed by default05:26
soulrideroh man, i love ubuntu! :P05:26
Jucatolibxine1-ffmpeg is in main05:26
Oweanhow do i compare two dirs in console, is there anything similar to diff, but for dirs?05:26
romeoAh! =) this is fun, ok one sec05:26
Jucatothe only reason it's not installed by default is patent issues... (so I've been told)05:26
soulriderOwean: dont really know =/05:27
JucatoOwean: try looking for an app called kompare and/or komparator... not sure which is which05:27
romeoyay! Now it worked to install it. Thak you all so very much :D05:27
CarinArryou're welcome romeo;) it should be available from kcontrol now05:27
soulriderno prob05:27
romeosoulrider and CarinArr. Thanks.05:28
JucatoOwean: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3354505:28
Jucato(that was quick...)05:28
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jhutchinsOwean: I usually use a file manager called "mc", styled after Midnight Commander.05:28
romeosince you are helping me, i got One tiny question cause i am tryig to install my grafic card. on a howto for ubuntu it says go to system - Software source.. Any idea where i can find this sofware source in Kubuntu?05:28
Jucatothere's a KDE version of that, called Krusader :)05:28
Oweanjhutchins: but does it support recursive comparison?05:29
jhutchinsJucato: Except he specified console.05:29
CarinArrright, finally got everything set up as i want it on my laptop.. and am realising i'm now going to have reinstall all my other machines to get same setups on them05:29
eagles0513875lol05:29
Jucatojhutchins: ah sorry kinda missed that part :)05:29
CarinArrand i didn't make a note of anything i did05:29
angela_Error trying to open /dev/hdc exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. and my ubuntu iso burn fails .. why05:29
eagles0513875skull now i know y ur name is what it is05:29
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jhutchinsOwean: If nothing else, you can do ls -R > text file for each tree and diff the files.05:29
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Daisuke_Idomay as well update to 3.5.605:29
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eagles0513875what r u using to burn ur iso angela05:30
CarinArrangela_: sounds as tho the device or resource is busy;)05:30
CarinArrsorry.. couldn't resist05:30
angela_k3b..05:30
angela_i have a blank cd in05:30
SkreechJucato: How did it find it's way into main?05:30
eagles0513875ok can u eject the cd05:30
jhutchinsangela_: Need to run k3bsetup, if that fails we can walk you through fixing it manually.05:30
eagles0513875could it fix itself it the x is restarted05:31
JucatoSkreech: libxine-extracodecs just installs libxine1-ffmpeg, which is in main. don't know how, don't know why05:31
angela_i ran k3bsetup its running now what do i need to do there05:31
angela_seems all is allright05:31
romeoCarinArr: Would you know where to find "sofware source" in kubuntu? a howto tells me that its on UBUNTU > system > Software source.. However i cant seem to find it on my kubuntu?05:31
jhutchinsangela_: that or somethng else is accesing the disk.05:31
angela_the disk isnt even mounted05:32
angela_hmm wait05:32
SkreechJucato: When does the patent on mp3 rugout?05:32
Skreechrunout?05:32
CarinArrromeo: no idea.. not sure what that is i'm afraid, and i haven't used kde more than a couple of days;)05:32
jhutchinsangela_: k3bsetup should set /dev/hdc's group ownership to a group you are a member of (use the groups command to see what you belong to).05:32
jhutchinsangela_: We've had reports that it sometimes fails.05:32
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JucatoSkreech: dunno... seeing as it's in main, might be good to ask core devs05:32
PF-Awayromeo: look in Adept Package Manager05:32
jhutchinsangela_: ls -l /dev/hdc to see the owner/group.05:33
romeoCarinArr: Oh :P ok thaks.05:33
PF-Awayit should be in your K-menu somewhere05:33
eagles0513875try restarting the x server for me that fixes alot of bugs that i have05:33
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angela_jhutchins: i sucesfully burned a file to a cd before this05:33
angela_using this account05:33
romeoPF-Away: I did.. Didnt work as it said on the howto. There it said i need to authenicate it using a key.. but i could not find where to browse so i could add the key for instance..05:33
jhutchinsOk, so the groups thing shouldn't be a problem then.05:33
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angela_yea its not a group problem05:34
waylandbillman I must have alot of packages installed. over a thousand to jump up to feisty. :-O05:34
angela_let me check again05:34
PF-Awayromeo: which howto?05:34
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SkreechWhoot Debtags work in Adept again :)05:34
jhutchinsangela_: try fuser -vki /dev/hdc05:34
angela_works now05:34
Skreech!laptops05:34
angela_i just had to click the cd icon on the desktop05:34
Skreech!laptop05:34
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org05:35
jhutchinsGreat, that's really all that matters.05:35
Skullereagles0513875: lol..yea i kept that name for myself myself....love it :)05:35
eagles0513875lol05:35
angela_im leaving kubuntu because it was kind of too slow and unstable for me , going for ubuntu05:35
eagles0513875so its registered05:35
eagles0513875wait angela05:35
eagles0513875how much ram do u have05:35
eagles0513875and how much swap05:35
angela_512 ddram, 1.8ghz, radeon 9550 128mb05:36
angela_1gb ram or so05:36
angela_i mean swap05:36
eagles0513875there is ur issue05:36
Skullerangela_: you werent using any extra window managers right?05:36
PF-Awayi'm glad i'm just testing azureus, not using it... 27% of my memory...05:36
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angela_no, im just using everything as default , nothing modified..05:36
eagles0513875so the total amount of ram u have is 51205:36
angela_kde 3.5.6 though05:36
angela_im not sure if i have 1gb swap maybe its 512 how do i check from command line05:36
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waylandbillI've got 512 ram and kde moves right along..05:37
JuJuBeeI have been trying to get NIS working.  I have read 3 how-to's online, but none seem to be for ubuntu and some of the commands they tell to use do not work... Some of the tests they tell me to run give desired output on both client and server, but no joy.  Can anybody help me?05:37
eagles0513875ive got 1.2 and im on fire05:37
eagles0513875and on top of that duel boot05:37
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eagles0513875do u know how to get to the linux equiv of task manager05:37
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Skullereagles0513875: count me burning too05:37
easytigerJuJuBee: if your going to use NIS in anger you may want to consider solaris05:37
romeoPF-Away: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html  (its on the current version, not on edgy)05:37
eagles0513875lol05:37
angela_i have freebsd on the other hd its  a 10gb quantum fireball and its blazing fast and stable05:37
JustinalfHello, this doesn't seem like a big problem, but everytime I load up Lincity, my screen goes blank, any sugestions?05:37
JuJuBeeWhat do you mean, in anger?05:38
Skullereagles0513875: ksysgaurd05:38
eagles0513875ya05:38
eagles0513875open that up angela05:38
easytigerJuJuBee: in a serious set up05:38
easytigeror an enterprise environment05:38
CarinArraren't you supposed to have same amount of swap as you have ram?05:38
eagles0513875ya05:38
angela_for a workstation yes05:38
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JuJuBeeIeasytiger : i am in a small network (my classroom of < 20 computers)05:38
CarinArrthat's the rule i normally follow05:38
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angela_for a server no05:38
CarinArrwhy not for a server?05:38
eagles0513875it could be u need to up the amount of ram u have for a server05:39
Skullereagles0513875: you can even get superkaramba and get the 'glass monitor' theme to get a lot of monitors and info05:39
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PF-AwayCarinArr: you run more daemons05:39
PF-Away?05:39
JuJuBees/leasytiger/easytiger/05:39
angela_its recomended to have double of physical ram for a server, but thats not mandatory05:39
waylandbilleagles0513875: ctrl-esc05:39
CarinArrsurely that'll just set it swapping madly tho05:39
eagles0513875swap has to be the same as amount of ram u have05:39
eagles0513875ubuntu server is just a cli btw angela05:39
angela_for a workstation yea05:39
CarinArrwhy wouldn't it for a server tho05:39
angela_but it depends on whos rules you follow05:39
angela_some books say this05:39
angela_other books other things05:39
Skullereagles0513875: ctrl-esc will show you the processes05:39
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PF-Awayromeo: why don't you follow the official guide of the Beryl project?05:40
eagles0513875try shrinkin gthe swap and c if that helps05:40
easytigerJuJuBee: did you try searching for debian and nis rather than k/ubuntu05:40
CarinArrdoubling the swap will surely just slow things down05:40
eagles0513875ty skull didnt know that05:40
eagles0513875ya is there a way she can change it05:40
CarinArri'm pleased cause so far with this machine it hasn't touched the swap once05:40
jhutchinseagles0513875: swap = 2x ram has been the standard for years.05:40
CarinArrfinally enough ram \o/05:40
PF-Awayromeo: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL05:41
JuJuBeeeasytiger, no.  just nis ubuntu...05:41
eagles0513875ya then y is she experencing slow performance05:41
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romeoPF-Away: I havent checked it, reason i am following this guide is because it says also how i can do to install my grafic card (which is the main reason i am following this guide, the xgl i guess is a bonus)05:41
angela_how do i check what size is my swap05:41
easytigerJuJuBee: you might get more results for debian.. saying tis more likey to have been deplyed as a server05:41
CarinArrromeo, what grahics card do you have?05:41
PF-Awayromeo: you shouldn't use xgl if you don't need it05:41
angela_i have the default size set by kubuntu during install thats for sure05:41
eagles0513875ctrl esc05:41
waylandbillangela_: free05:41
eagles0513875wait angela run this05:41
eagles0513875sudo apt-get autoclean05:42
eagles0513875this gets rid of the cache and cleans it out after u install pkgs05:42
angela_ok05:42
jhutchinsangela_: top and iostat can be useful in determining where your system bottlenecks.05:42
eagles0513875frees up space and should improve performance05:42
angela_im rebooting to ubuntu cd in a few min05:42
angela_to install it05:42
angela_no point anymore05:42
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eagles0513875wait angela we can get to bottom of this05:42
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PF-Awayvmstat05:43
angela_output of free on swap section says05:43
angela_Swap:      1544184      17676    152650805:43
epimethwhat does it mean if when I log in to x a session starts, then I get thrown back to the login screen?05:43
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eagles0513875how bout physical mem05:43
PF-Awayangela_: vmstat05:43
angela_    total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached05:43
angela_Mem:        515368     504720      10648          0       3812     38351205:43
angela_-/+ buffers/cache:     117396     39797205:43
angela_Swap:      1544184      17676    152650805:43
CarinArrepimeth: back to a graphical login screen, or back to a text one?05:44
eagles0513875isnt her problem she has a bigger swap than physical mem05:44
epimethgraphical05:44
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eagles05138751.5gb swap for 512mb physical05:44
angela_hmm05:44
angela_thats kind of a problem05:44
angela_didnt know05:44
eagles0513875i think that is where ur prob is angela05:44
angela_kde apps took long to load ..05:44
angela_hmm yea you are right05:44
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CarinArrepimeth: probably that the window manager crashed05:44
eagles0513875is there a way she can shrink it without reinstalling05:45
epimethCarinArr: lol... no way!05:45
CarinArr;)05:45
epimethCarinArr: so how do I fix it :-)05:45
CarinArrepimeth: you logging into kde?05:45
eagles0513875oh wait angela05:45
PF-Awayangela_: you could also try with a custom kernel, with ck's patchset05:45
epimethCarinArr: yup05:45
eagles0513875question is is she really experienced with linux or inexperienced05:45
waylandbilleagles0513875: shrink the swap? yes. turn swap off, repartition it, turn swap on05:45
CarinArrepimeth: i'm not really that familiar with kde, but you can try moving the .kde folder temporarily and see if it's one of your settings causing it05:45
eagles0513875way can u explain to angela how to do that05:46
angela_im somewhere between05:46
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eagles0513875lol05:46
eagles0513875wayland can u explain that to angela05:46
epimethCarinArr: how do I set the default window manager?  I think beryl might be the culprit05:46
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eagles0513875i have to be honest angela not many ladies on here lol so its nice to c a lady on here lol05:46
PF-Awayangela_: do you want help with repartitioning your swapspace?05:46
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romeoCarinArr: I got Radeon x700.. I followed another guide but it didnt work. Said i need to go to Xorg config file nad change Ati to visa or vesa if i remember correctly. However that did not work =)05:46
angela_no im not a lady, im just on my mothers account and konversation took her username for nick.. hehe05:47
PF-Awayswapoff /dev/hda2; cfdisk; swapon /dev/hda205:47
angela_im a fatboy05:47
CarinArrepimeth: check if you have beryl-manager.desktop in .kde/Autostart, if so try to move it and see if that works05:47
PF-Away:P05:47
eagles0513875oh lol05:47
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epimethangela_: you know... I was gonna make some joke about you not being a lady, but felt it was in bad taste....05:47
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waylandbillswapoff, use qtparted to resize the swap, swapon /dev/hda[x] 05:47
Skullerlol05:47
eagles0513875talk to wayland he should be able to explain to ya how to shrink the swap i have no idea05:47
CarinArrthere you go;)05:47
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Skullerhehe05:47
romeoPF-Away: Isn't XGL to make things the windows move in 3d etc?05:47
epimethCarinArr: cheers05:47
epimethCarinArr: trying now05:47
eagles0513875btw angela u have to use sudo qtparted05:47
eagles0513875good luck romeo getting open gl to work i have a x200m and its a bitch05:48
CarinArrromeo: yeah, out of interest, how old is your graphics card?05:48
PF-Awayromeo: XGL is the old way, AIGLX, which is built into the graphic-thingy-server Xorg, is the new way05:48
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Skullercaesar gifted05:48
waylandbillyou have to use sudo for the swapoff/on as well. :-)05:48
angela_ok another time im rebooting to ubuntu install and another day i'll try kubuntu with a right swap size, when feisty fawn will be out05:48
eagles0513875mine carin is only 2 yrs old and i cnat the fglrx to work ive tried everythign imaginable05:48
romeoeagles0513875: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html this guy seems to have helped loads of people. I think i read x200m there worked. Check it our of you want05:48
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eagles0513875ty romeo05:48
eagles0513875ill check it out05:49
CarinArri've only had the questionable pleasure of ever owning one mchine with an ati card and it was too old a card to actually use the proprietory drivers anyway;)05:49
l3mri'm trying to port my app from os x tiger to linux; GL_FRAMEBUFFER_EXTs are not recognized. Do i need special includes on linux to use FBOs? i use Kubuntu with the latest nvidia drivers05:49
romeoCarinArr: Around 1-2 years old if i am not mistaken05:49
eagles0513875same with mine05:49
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eagles0513875carin05:49
angela_thanks for help, and its really nice to be a lady cause you get more help and ppl are more nice but now you know im not a lady05:49
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CarinArrheh05:49
PF-Awayeagles0513875: ATI?05:49
waylandbillradeon 200m? it runs beryl, but not very quickly.05:49
CarinArrromeo: sorry i can't be much help with ati drivers.. have you tried envy though? it claims to work with ati drivers too05:50
bxnpl3mr: i think you are kinda in the wrong channel, the questions you ask are more developing related,05:50
eagles0513875ya ati radeon xpress 200m05:50
epimethCarinArr: nope05:50
PF-Awayeagles0513875: don't change any driver settings05:50
PF-Awayjust run beryl-manager05:50
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eagles0513875integrated onto mobo on my compaq pesario r4012us05:50
eagles0513875ok05:50
PF-Awayit should work, afaik, with the default settings05:50
CarinArrpardon epimeth?05:50
bxnpin what language are you porting the app to linux l3mr05:50
PF-Awayc, problly05:51
waylandbilleagles0513875: that link works with a 200m, but it's not quick and requires xgl05:51
l3mrbxnp: ok. i already asked in ubuntu-devel :) ... c++ & glsl05:51
PF-Awayeagles0513875: don't follow that link05:51
PF-Awayit would be stupid;)05:51
eagles0513875ok should i install beryl05:51
PF-Awayunnecessary, even05:51
PF-Awayeagles0513875: just install beryl, and try to run it05:51
PF-Awayit should work05:51
epimethCarinArr: nothing in Autostart05:51
PF-Awayeagles0513875: do you need help to install it?05:51
epimethCarinArr: besides .directoy05:52
eagles0513875install what05:52
PF-Awayberyl05:52
bxnpmaybe going to the #c++ channel is a good one l3mr05:52
romeoCarinArr: What exactly is Evy?05:52
epimethCarinArr: no file with beryl at all05:52
romeoCarinArr:  Envy*05:52
eagles0513875hey eilker05:52
waylandbillPF-Away: 200m? no way. it needs xgl and doesn't run beryl with the open source driver.05:52
CarinArrepimeth: how about .kde/share/autostart/ ?05:52
epimethromeo: its an autoinstall program for graphic card drivers05:52
PF-Away200m? you sure?05:52
bxnpand will it be a kde app l3mr05:52
CarinArr!envy05:52
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia05:52
waylandbillPF-Away: I have one.05:52
epimethromeo: specifically, Nvidia and Ati05:52
PF-Awayah, sorry, i'm messing up05:52
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bxnpin that case the kde developers channel is allso a good start05:52
PF-Awaywaylandbill: but the beryl project provides an automatic script05:53
l3mrbxnp: nope, pure OpenGL screen and stuff - no gui :)05:53
epimethCarinArr: sure cheat and use ubotu :-p05:53
romeoCarinArr: Okey thanks05:53
waylandbillPF-Away: now that I didn't know. :-)05:53
CarinArr:D05:53
PF-Awayeagles0513875: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL_and_ATI05:53
eagles0513875im confused here05:53
epimethCarinArr: where is that located?  etc?05:53
bxnpwhat kind of app is it anyway l3mr05:53
CarinArrepimeth: uhm no should be in your home directory05:53
PF-Awayeagles0513875: follow the link i posted05:53
PF-Awayand instead of "gedit" use "kate"05:53
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eagles0513875what repository do i get bery from05:54
PF-Awayit will do stuff automagically05:54
l3mrbxnp: pointsplat-renderer05:54
CarinArreagles0513875: it's all covered in that tutorial05:54
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epimethCarinArr: shared stuff in my home?  odd.... I think I set beryl to start automatically for *all* users... where would that be located05:54
eagles0513875ok05:54
CarinArrepimeth: heh, yeah it is odd05:54
eagles0513875this is confusing me actually lol let me take look at it again05:54
CarinArrepimeth: not sure to be honest.. i've used beryl about as long as i've used kde (i.e. two days)05:55
PF-Awayeagles0513875: just do the following:05:55
bxnpto be honest i dont know what that is l3mr05:55
PF-Awayeagles0513875: open a Konsole05:55
epimethCarinArr: lol... arg05:55
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epimethCarinArr: I'll have a searchsie05:55
PF-Awayeagles0513875: K-Menu -> System -> Konsole05:55
epimeth!windowmanager05:55
epimeth!window-manager05:55
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windowmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about window-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:55
PF-Away!wm05:55
eagles0513875ok05:55
CarinArrl3mr: what was the error you had?05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:55
l3mrbxnp: 3d accelerated rendering of high quality scenes using points instead of triangles05:55
l3mrsimply said05:56
PF-Awayeagles0513875: then type "kate ./beryl-install-script"05:56
eagles0513875ok05:56
CarinArrl3mr: for fun or for work?05:56
epimethheh... beryl doesn't know how to hid adept notifier!05:56
l3mrCarinArr: both :)05:56
bxnpand can i use blender to create that scene and render it with your app05:56
eagles0513875just copy and paste what they have on site pf05:56
PF-Awayeagles0513875: now copy the script on the yellow background from here (mark, right click, copy): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11360/05:57
CarinArrl3mr: commercial application? (nosy:) )05:57
PF-Awayand paste, yeah;)05:57
waylandbillepimeth: you should see beryl handle a vnc window. :-)05:57
l3mrCarinArr: Research05:57
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PF-Awayeagles0513875: then ctrl+s (save) and exit05:57
eagles0513875ok05:57
CarinArrl3mr: really? same business as me then:)05:57
l3mrCarinArr: will be released with bsd license when the paper is published :)05:57
PF-Awayeagles0513875: then, back in the konsole, type "chmod +x ./beryl-install-script"05:57
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l3mrpapers...05:57
l3mr:)05:57
eagles0513875will this work05:57
PF-Awayeagles0513875: then "sudo ./beryl-install-script"05:57
PF-Awayeagles0513875: it better;)05:58
eagles0513875hold on05:58
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CarinArrl3mr: you in academia or in commercial research?05:58
eagles0513875says command not found05:58
l3mracademia05:58
romeoCarinArr: What file should i download? The source of the envy? or a deb file? :S05:58
CarinArrromeo: the .deb file05:58
eagles0513875is there another package i need to download or add another repository05:58
PF-Awayeagles0513875: how, where?05:58
CarinArrl3mr: sorry to keep at it.. but what university are you working at?05:59
PF-Awayeagles0513875: i believe it should do it automagically05:59
eagles0513875it says that the command cant be found05:59
CarinArri'm researching rendering techniques too, interesting when you come across others;)05:59
eagles0513875wait05:59
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PF-Awayeagles0513875: when you type "sudo ./beryl-install-script"05:59
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PF-Away?05:59
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eagles0513875its working06:00
l3mrCarinArr: Europe.... :)06:00
romeoCarinArr: Ok, i downloaded the deb file.. How to install a deb file? :)06:00
eagles0513875missed a step06:00
PF-Awayah;)06:00
eagles0513875updating repositories06:00
romeoCarinArr: Or run it or whatever you do with a deb file06:00
PF-Awaycool06:00
Skreechromeo: Which deb file?06:00
romeoSkreech: Envy deb file06:00
CarinArrlol l3mr, like pulling teeth;)06:00
PF-Awayromeo: right-click, Kubuntu menu thing, and install06:00
Skreech!ENVY06:00
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia06:00
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CarinArrromeo: if it saves it onto your desktop just right click it and choose to install it06:00
romeoPF-Away: And if i want todo it from the console?06:01
eagles0513875its downloading atm06:01
CarinArrromeo: what PF-Away said;)06:01
PF-Awayromeo: dpkg -i [name] 06:01
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romeoPF-Away:  Yeay, thaks06:01
PF-Awaynp;=06:01
romeoCarinArr: Alrighty, ill try it and update you if it works or not :D06:01
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eagles0513875hope this does it06:02
eagles0513875if it does i dont know what im going to do to repay ya06:02
SkreechBeer06:02
PF-Awaya simple "thanks" will suffice06:02
eagles0513875lol06:02
PF-Away;)06:02
eagles0513875u sure pf06:02
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PF-Awayof course06:02
PF-Awayi've had enough people waste time trying to help me, this is the least i can do;)06:03
eagles0513875ty ahead of time06:03
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PF-Away_if_ it works;)06:03
eagles0513875i love the wifi connection im on06:03
PF-Awayheh06:03
eagles0513875its a cable connection 1.5mb down 768 up06:03
PF-Awaylove thy neighbour?06:03
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eagles0513875that is the wired connection06:04
eagles0513875im getting 54mb06:04
PF-Away:P06:04
CarinArrin the non literal sense06:04
PF-Awayi'm supposed to have 2up/down06:04
eagles0513875pf go to www.speedtest.net06:04
eagles0513875that is a way to test it06:04
eagles0513875and click on the pyramid that is orange06:04
TFroganyone have any luck with Feisty and the ATI proprietary drivers?06:04
eagles0513875that is the closest data center to where u r06:04
PF-Awayok06:05
waylandbillI would try a speed test, but downloading feisty packages might skew it. ;)06:05
eagles0513875pf will beryl enable open gl for me06:05
eagles0513875lol06:05
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eagles0513875i saw a scheduel yesterday if anyon is  interested official release date for feisty plus or minus 2 or 3 days is april 19th06:05
PF-Awayeagles0513875: yes, supposedly;)06:05
PF-Away!feisty | eagles051387506:06
ubotueagles0513875: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)06:06
PF-Away:D06:06
eagles0513875i got that off the scheduel pf06:06
TFrogwe'll just have to wait and see. i'm running Feisty now06:06
eagles0513875should i restart my x06:06
eagles0513875how is it tfrog06:06
Skreech!kde406:06
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org06:06
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eagles0513875it still says mesa glx is still indirect06:07
eagles0513875im going to restart x06:07
PF-Awayeagles0513875: is the script finished?06:07
eagles0513875ya06:07
PF-Awaythen restart06:07
eagles0513875ok brb06:07
EugenShello alls06:07
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PF-Awayyou might have to select Beryl when you log in06:07
eagles0513875ok06:07
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TFrogpretty stable at this point. most apps work well. a few small issues. my biggest issue is ATI proprietary drivers with the 200M chipset06:07
waylandbillTFrog: 200m. The bane of many a user. :)06:08
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TFroglol waylandbill. i got it working in edgy fine. problem is the new kernel in feisty06:08
PF-Awaydoesn't ati support .20 yet?06:09
waylandbillTFrog: I'll find that out soon enough.06:09
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TFrogPF-Away, they have been. however there is a problem with their drivers and composite memory06:09
PF-AwayTFrog: has there been a time there has not been a problem with ati's proprietary drivers?;)06:10
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EugenSboring :(06:10
eagles0513875it still says indirect pf06:10
TFrogand that was with edgy which was fixable06:10
K-RyanHey guys06:10
EugenShey06:10
JuJuBeeeasytiger : thanks fo the tip, got it working now...06:10
PF-Awayeagles0513875: AIGLX means Advanced Indirect GL for X06:10
eagles0513875?06:10
PF-Awayeagles0513875: try running a 3d program06:10
TFrognot from what i've read on the forums. about 2 years ago they had a stable driver under ubuntu. but not so now06:10
eagles0513875so mesa glx should say indirect06:10
PF-Awayit should be accelerated06:10
eagles0513875how do i run the gears06:10
easytigerJuJuBee: cool. is it hard? i must try it sometime06:10
PF-Awayglxgears06:10
EugenSi need help... my AMAROK doesnt play mp3s06:11
eagles0513875u dont have the codecs for it06:11
K-RyanEugenS did you get the codec package?06:11
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PF-Away!mp3 | EugenS06:11
stdinEugenS: installed libxine-extrecodecs ?06:11
waylandbill!restricted | EugenS06:11
ubotuEugenS: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:11
easytigerEugenS: don't panic!06:11
eagles0513875what stdin said eugen06:11
EugenSi dont know... im a new linux user ^^06:11
K-RyanThen you dont have the codecs.06:11
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PF-Awayeagles0513875: darn nice, that speedtest.net06:11
K-RyanIn your Konsole, type this06:11
eagles0513875lol06:11
TFrogfrankly, i don't care for amarok. i like xmms better06:11
eagles0513875how do i run the gears06:11
PF-Away;)06:11
K-Ryansudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs06:12
PF-Awayeagles0513875: glxgears06:12
easytigerTFrog: you are twisted06:12
stdinEugenS: you'll need to enable the Multiverse repository first06:12
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K-RyanOh yeah...06:12
TFrogno easytiger. i'm a certified geek. CompTIA A+ certified to boot06:12
PF-Awayeagles0513875: try running beryl-manager06:12
stdinEugenS: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3#head-2ddd004a4fd8d0020c9ab94c5cea78ba9ee5caa906:12
easytigerand that makes xmms any lessa piece of shit how?06:12
eagles0513875when i typed it in this is a message i always get06:12
eagles0513875Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".06:12
eagles0513875xcomposite extension failed there is no xcomposite extensions06:13
PF-Awayeagles0513875: something has crapped up...06:13
TFrogactually amarok is bloatware and trying to be too much like Winbloze media player. if i want light do it all i'll take vlc06:13
EugenSokay i will read and understand that all and... if amarok would not play i ask again ^^06:13
EugenSthx for the links06:13
PF-Awayeagles0513875: can you paste the output of glxinfo?06:14
PF-AwayTFrog: vlc is not light06:14
PF-Awayamarok is lighter06:14
PF-Away;)06:14
PF-Awayafaik06:14
LynoureTFrog: vlc does last.fm and podcasts?06:14
easytigerTFrog: its trying to be everything that WMP isn't06:14
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PF-Awayand scripting in any thinkable language?06:14
easytigerdoes vlc have an hugh DB capability build via metadata?06:14
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easytiger*huge06:15
TFrogno but xmms dos SHOUTcast which is what i listen to. besides, if you read the papers lately, we may be seeing the end of internet radio06:15
PF-Awaydoes vlc support SQL for storing your library?06:15
PF-Awayamarok comes with a huge list of internet radio stations06:15
easytigerand try organising >950 albums with anoy other media player06:15
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exencehelo06:16
eagles0513875what was the last thing u said pf06:16
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TFrogif i wanna database album info, i'll use a real database instead thank you very much06:16
PF-Awayeagles0513875: glxinfo06:16
easytigerthe gnome ones banshee bork and die at about 35006:16
PF-Away!paste | eagles051387506:16
ubotueagles0513875: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:16
exencej ai un pb de resolution06:16
easytigerTFrog: liek a mysql back end?06:16
PF-Away!fr06:16
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:16
exencehelo06:16
eagles0513875i know pf06:16
K-Ryanexence, language?06:16
PF-AwayTFrog: amarok has support for SQL-based databases, as well as defaulting to sqlite, in case no database is available06:17
eagles0513875http://pastebin.ca/405282 there u go pf06:17
TFrognah. i can develop a database for most anything out of OO Base06:17
PF-Awaydanke06:17
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TFroganyway, what i prefer may not be what others prefer. that's what open source is about. choice06:18
easytigerso you can build a DB faster than amarok for 10000 tracks TFrog. methinks i smell bullshit. and what use is OOo. why are you even mentioning it06:18
PF-Awayeagles0513875: can you paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log too?06:18
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PF-AwayTFrog: you have to choose our new superior overlord, amaroK06:18
PF-Away:D06:18
TFroghey PF-Away :P~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~06:19
easytigerresistance is futile06:19
PF-Away;)06:19
PF-AwayTFrog: have you tested amarok? if so, i won't bother you anymore;)06:19
TFrogbesides, if i wanted 10000 tracks or more i'd use mysql to do the database anyway06:19
PF-Awayi forgot, that eagles dude forgot to modprobe the fglrx kernel module...06:19
easytigerTFrog: how?06:20
PF-AwayTFrog: amarok support MySQL very nice06:20
easytigerwhat do you mean  "i'd use mysql to do the database anyway"06:20
easytigertype them out in OOo?06:20
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PF-Away:P06:20
TFrogPF-Away, i'm use to the old winbloze winamp. that's what makes xmms a natural for me06:20
Schuenemannhey, how can I find out how much RAM I havE?06:20
PF-AwayTFrog: i used to use winamp too06:20
easytigeramarok has a winamp mode06:20
exencey a pas de francais06:20
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easytigerme too06:20
PF-AwayTFrog: choose xmms interface under option06:20
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PF-Away!fr06:21
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:21
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eagles0513875pf what was lat thing u said06:21
pafnutiyhi all! can you tell me, what's the best icq client for ubuntu?06:21
exencepersonne ne repond sur kubuntu fr06:21
eagles0513875beryl manager causes my comp to hang badly pf06:21
PF-Awayeagles0513875: you need to modprobe fglrx, before logging in again06:21
TFroganyway, i'm not here to debate the merits of specific software. later all06:21
PF-Awayeagles0513875: "sudo modprobe fglrx"06:21
PF-Awayor reboot06:21
eagles0513875after i do that reboot x06:21
Schuenemannpafnutiy, have you tried gaim?06:21
PF-Awayyes06:21
pafnutiyi have06:21
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Schuenemannand?06:22
eagles0513875brb again06:22
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PF-Awayeagles0513875: modprob'ing means to load the "driver", or kernel module06:22
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pafnutiyu like it?06:22
pafnutiyi think its rather raw06:22
PF-Awaykopete pwns06:22
SchuenemannI use it for gtalk... it's lightweight06:22
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Schuenemannyes, it doesn't look like icq06:22
Schuenemannthere is gaim, licq, kopete, sim...06:23
PF-AwayKopete = pure ownage06:23
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pafnutiyhave u tried sim?06:23
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JuJuBeeIf I add a shared folder System->Administration->Shared Fodlers, do I need to restart? I used NFS to share.06:23
Schuenemannyes, but it was long ago06:24
PF-AwayJuJuBee: just restart the nfs server, probably06:24
eagles0513875pf its still indirect06:24
pafnutiyhow is it?06:24
Schuenemannwas "raw"06:24
PF-Awayeagles0513875: did you ctrl+alt+backspace?06:24
eagles0513875yep06:24
PF-Awayeagles0513875: try to reboot06:24
eagles0513875reboot whole machine06:24
pafnutiythanks06:24
PF-Awayyup06:24
eagles0513875brb yet again06:24
Schuenemannhey, how can I find out how much RAM I have?06:24
PF-Awayto make sure everything is loaded in like it shoud06:24
eagles0513875ok brb again06:24
PF-AwaySchuenemann: vmstat -S M06:25
Schuenemannwhich field?06:25
PF-AwaySchuenemann: more /proc/meminfo06:25
PF-Awayeasier to understand06:25
PF-Awayor use KSysInfo06:25
PF-Awaykinfocenter, i mean06:26
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PF-Away:D06:26
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PF-AwayK-Menu -> System -> KInfoCenter06:26
PF-Awayclick on memory06:26
Schuenemannthanks06:27
PF-Awaynp06:27
Ickdoes anybody know anything about keyboard layouts?06:28
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CarinArrgl.h should include it automatically tho06:30
CarinArrer bleh06:30
CarinArrwrong window06:30
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eagles0513875pf its still indirect06:32
Ickmy keyboard used to let me do alt gr06:32
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Icki have a german keyboard06:32
Ickalt gr is the right alt button06:32
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Ickand serves as a meta button06:32
Ickit used to work until just recently06:32
uciujest kto od polakw?06:33
waylandbill!pl06:33
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:33
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Ickcool06:34
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PF-Awayeagles0513875: paste the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:34
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eagles0513875ok hold on06:35
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eagles0513875http://pastebin.ca/405308 there it is pf06:36
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waylandbilleagles0513875: you need to disable aiglx in your xorg.conf06:37
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waylandbilleagles0513875: make a section ServerFlags with Option "AIGLX" "off"06:38
EugenSokay... have anyone a instruction to get mp3 codecs in german?06:39
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eagles0513875could someone show me an edited version with that in it in the xorg config cuz i already played round wiht xconfig and fucked it up06:39
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bxnpevery configuration is different eagles051387506:41
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waylandbilleagles0513875: http://pastebin.ca/405319   this shows it in there.06:41
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eagles0513875should i just copy paste it into one i have06:41
eagles0513875just copy and paste wayland06:42
waylandbilleagles0513875: yes the aiglx option in the server flags. not the whole file.06:42
eagles0513875ok06:42
eagles0513875where is that located what line06:42
waylandbilleagles0513875: you may need the composite option turned off too06:42
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eagles0513875let me turn aiglx off first06:42
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waylandbilleagles0513875: the section around line 8906:43
eagles0513875wat lines is that on06:43
eagles0513875ok06:43
eagles0513875just put it at end and reboot x06:43
waylandbilleagles0513875: should work06:43
eagles0513875ok06:43
JuJuBeeIs there a post-it notes like program for ubuntu?06:44
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eagles0513875where i put it in06:44
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eagles0513875which file the file i pasted is log file06:45
waylandbillJuJuBee: knotes06:45
JuJuBeeDoes it matter I use gnome?06:45
waylandbilleagles0513875: /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:45
eagles0513875ty06:45
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waylandbillJuJuBee: there's maybe a gnome program.06:45
rolandohola06:45
gemidjydoes apt-get logs its install/remove acitivities somewhere?06:45
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rolandowhere is supposed to be my grub.conf its not in /boot nor /etc06:46
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waylandbillJuJuBee: there's also some straight x ones like xpostit06:46
eagles0513875brb hope this works06:46
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eagles0513875wayland its still indirect06:47
rolandowhere does kubuntu keep grub.conf?06:47
eagles0513875i believe its /.boot06:47
waylandbilleagles0513875: lets see the log now06:47
eagles0513875ok whats long again lol06:48
rolandoeagles0513875: its not there06:48
waylandbillrolando: /boot/grub/menu.list06:48
eagles0513875i did glxinfo says mesaglx isindirect06:48
eagles0513875where is the log again /var/log06:48
CarinArrrolando you looking for grub.conf or menu.lst?06:48
waylandbilleagles0513875: /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:48
rolandoCarinArr: grub.conf06:49
CarinArrrolando: what are you wanting to edit?06:49
eagles0513875http://pastebin.ca/40533606:50
EugenSif I type "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" the console tells me, that the "libxine-extracodecs" are NOT availebel06:50
eagles0513875use pkg manager06:50
eagles0513875type in xine06:50
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EugenSpkg manager??? xine??? whats that? ^^06:51
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CarinArrEugenS: they're in multiverse06:51
eagles0513875adept pkg manager06:51
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uciu!pl06:51
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eagles0513875under system first one in kmenu06:51
CarinArrEugenS: you need to enable the multiverse repository06:51
waylandbilleagles0513875: (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled06:52
CarinArr!repositories | EugenS06:52
ubotuEugenS: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:52
rolandoi want to change the time i have to wait06:52
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EugenSyea but how @ carinarr06:52
rolandoin menu grub06:52
ackbahrhello guys! I'm trying to install Danger from the Deep, and it comes as a bin file. But I have no idea about how to install it now! (got used to wonderful apt-get....) How should I do that?06:52
eagles0513875really then y is it when i run glxinfo mesa3d is indirect06:52
waylandbillrolando: you set that in menu.lst06:52
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JuJuBeeOK, now that I have nfs and nis running, I need to move the students home directories from an old (Gentoo) server to the new (Ubuntu) server.  I was thinking of using tar to do that.  How can I tar a directory and untar it on the other end preserving ownership perms etc?06:52
CarinArrrolando: you do that in /boot/grub/menu.lst06:52
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waylandbilleagles0513875: fglrxinfo06:52
rolandook thanx06:53
eagles0513875display: :0.0  screen: 006:53
eagles0513875OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org06:53
eagles0513875OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect06:53
eagles0513875OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)06:53
eagles0513875y is it saying indirect06:53
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chanceHi. In using pam_wheel.so, can I specify Active Directory groups with the group option like so? group="Domain Admins" ?06:54
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waylandbill#06:55
waylandbill(EE) fglrx(0): === [swlDalHelperAddCustomizeMode]  === CWDDEDI_DisplayGetSetModeTimingOverride failed: 206:55
eagles0513875?06:55
waylandbilleagles0513875: the only errors I see are that.06:55
eagles0513875does that mean i have gl support06:56
eagles0513875or no support yet06:56
waylandbilleagles0513875: try fgl_glxgears and see if it runs06:56
eagles0513875ok06:57
eagles0513875opened for a brief sec and then quit06:57
ackbahrAh, as I downloaded the sourceforge page with the name of the bin file, it was never going to work....06:57
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ackbahrgfbgfbtgfbff06:57
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waylandbilleagles0513875: then you probably don't have the glx running. :-/06:57
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eagles0513875how do i get it to run06:57
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morgWorkhey guys06:58
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eagles0513875pf u still there any ideas06:59
morgWorkany particular reason kmail and korganizer don't have icons in the kmenu?06:59
miltosberyl manager doesn't start automatically06:59
ackbahrWell, I'll bang my head somewhere esle.... See you someday!06:59
waylandbillmiltos: put a symlink to it in ~/.kde/Autostart06:59
waylandbill!autostart | miltos07:00
ubotumiltos: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.07:00
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romeohow can i fix this problem: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes."07:00
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miltoswaylandbill, the problem is that beryl doesn't start from System---->Beryl, i have to type in console "beryl-manager"07:01
waylandbillright. you need to make a symbolic link.07:01
waylandbillromeo: xlibs-dev07:01
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CarinArranyone around here using kiba-dock?07:02
miltoswaylandbill, how do i make a symbolic link?07:02
waylandbillln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart07:02
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romeowaylandbill: thanks07:03
miltoswaylandbill, thanks...i will try and be back07:04
eagles0513875im trying a game that i need gl for07:04
eagles0513875hope it works07:04
eagles0513875its world of warcraft07:04
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eagles0513875why does it terminate unexpectedly07:05
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romeowaylandbill: Now it tells me i need something called qt.. i tried "apt-get install qt" but couldn't find it. any ideas?07:06
waylandbillromeo: 3 or 4?07:06
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romeowaylandbill: hecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (I guess anything above 3?) i just started using linux 2 days ago so i am newbie to all this07:07
waylandbilllibqt4-dev should do it07:07
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eagles0513875how do i unlock adept07:08
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eagles0513875cuz pkgs couldnt be installed07:08
waylandbillromeo: two days in and building software. sounds like you're jumping right in. :-)07:08
waylandbill!adeptfix07:08
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:08
eagles0513875ty wayland07:09
eagles0513875what good programs suites r there for kubuntu07:09
romeowaylandbill: I have no idea what I am doing to be honest =).. Trying to install themes and styles on my KDE. since i like it i thought that this will help me learn faster since its something fun.. Uhm.. =) Worked fine. thank you very much07:09
eagles0513875wayland what bout my fglrx probs07:09
waylandbilleagles0513875: I'm not sure on that issue. sorry07:10
eagles0513875anyone else have any ideas07:10
romeowaylandbill: i take that back =) hecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.. It says it needs headers and libraries07:10
romeoeagles0513875: I had prob with the fglrx, anything special?07:10
waylandbillromeo: okay. sounds like it wants 3, not 4. libqt3-mt-dev. :-D07:11
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eagles0513875how did u get it to run romeo07:11
eagles0513875my mesa glx still says indirect and installed beryl07:11
oliverhi07:11
romeoeagles0513875:  wasn't it you i send that url on the howto page?07:12
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oliverhey, did someone notice amarok not playing mp3s after latest repo updates (feisty herd5)07:13
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eagles0513875ya07:13
eagles0513875i already have beryl installed07:13
romeoeagles0513875: Oh then I dunno =/07:13
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eagles0513875and i changed aglx in xorg cfg07:13
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eagles0513875way what was that other thing u said i might have to change07:14
waylandbilleagles0513875: it's already changed07:14
eagles0513875ok07:14
m_hey oki07:14
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eagles0513875well i guess ill have to try this topic another day then lol07:14
waylandbilleagles0513875: you running an xgl session or standard kde x session?07:14
eagles0513875kde07:15
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eagles0513875should i run xgl07:15
m_: you running an xgl session or standard kde x session?07:15
eagles0513875standarde kde07:15
eagles0513875does it give me an option07:15
m_kool07:15
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waylandbilleagles0513875: it should at the kdm menu I thought07:15
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eagles0513875will i still get a desktop like a regular kde session07:15
waylandbillyeah07:16
eagles0513875brb07:16
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eagles0513875way all i get is a black screen name07:21
eagles0513875*screen07:21
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oliverhey, did someone notice amarok not playing mp3s after latest repo updates (feisty herd5)07:22
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Tm_Tsparrw: please don't do that ever again07:25
eagles0513875what he do07:25
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Tm_Tunneeded ctcp call for whole channel07:26
sparrwTm_T: please don't do that ever again07:26
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sparrwunneeded privmsg call for whole channel07:26
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PirateHeadI installed the kubntu-desktop package on normal Ubuntu and now it uses the Kubuntu usplash screen. How do I switch it back to the Ubuntu one?07:26
Tm_Tsparrw: funny?07:26
funky_Dhow do u unmount a usb device?07:27
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sparrwTm_T: no more so than yours07:27
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eagles0513875someone kick ban07:27
Tm_Tsparrw: well, I was serious, I don't like that kind of things to be done07:27
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Tm_Teagles0513875: well that's quite harsh07:28
m_hello, how may I add a graphical interface on grub???07:28
sparrwTm_T: is there some alternative to find/acquire everyone's avatars?07:28
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Tm_Tsparrw: no idea, nor care, still don't like it07:28
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bentob0xhow come I can't su root on Kubuntu?07:28
Skullerwhats an avatar in this IRC?07:28
eagles0513875tm may i pm r u registered07:28
m_goodbye monkey07:28
eagles0513875u have to sudo bentob07:28
Tm_Teagles0513875: sure07:28
bentob0xyea but sudo doesn't work for cd07:28
sparrwSkuller: a small picture that represents a person.  you may have encountered them on forums or IM software07:29
funky_Dhow do u unmount a usb device?07:29
funky_Dumount........?07:29
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eagles0513875what u trying to do ben07:29
Skullersparrw: i have...i meant where is this thing on IRC, like here?07:29
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sparrwfunky_D: "umount /dev/sda1" usually, unless you have other libata/scsi/usb devices07:29
bentob0xmount an ntfs drive and then hop in it07:29
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funky_Dsparrw: it says not found07:30
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eagles0513875u want read write access ben07:30
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eagles0513875ben u registered so i may pm07:30
bentob0xsure07:30
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sparrwfunky_D: then its probably elsewhere.  is the device on your desktop?07:30
sparrwfunky_D: or in your 'storage media' place in konqueror?07:31
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chijinwouldn't it be easier to type 'mount' in console and see what the device is07:32
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kristjan_kubuntu does not have +1 channel like ubuntu has?07:34
alunotem algum brasileiro ??07:35
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atidemhello07:36
funky_Dchijin: thats a good idea.. i will try.07:36
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ackbahrHi all! Can't run accelerated 3D games, whereas beryl, for example, runs.... Any idea?07:40
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Ryielvid card?07:41
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ackbahrRadeon 9600 Mobility.07:42
chijinheh07:42
ackbahrAnd I have the direct render : yes ....07:42
chijinyou can't run 3d games in beryl07:42
chijinwith an ati card07:42
chijin..as far as i know07:42
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Ryielchijin: i cant even run beryl with my ati card.. (but i can run games :D )07:43
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ackbahrchijin: Didn't try that, of course (would dream of it), just mentionned beryl to say 3D accel works!07:43
chijinmy ati runs beryl nicely :-P07:43
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Ryielchijin: help me then ;)07:43
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Ryielhow to set it up?07:43
Ryielackbahr: im using fglrx driver to play games.07:43
chijinRyiel: there are plenty of good tutorials on ubuntuforums and on the beryl website. i just used a compination of them and got it working07:44
ackbahrRyiel: want my xorg.conf that works for beryl?07:44
Ryielyeah, that would be good07:44
Ryielthanks07:44
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Ryiel!paste07:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:44
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Ryielchijin: I've read many tutorials but none of them worked :(07:45
n8k99anybody here use a pen tablet?07:45
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SkullerRyiel: please be reminded that the link to pastebin is in the channel topic. Please do not flood the channel by by !paste07:46
RyielOh, sorry07:46
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eagles0513875can anyone explain to me when i try to log into xgl desktop all i get is a black screen07:46
mirshafieanybody here using feisty? is it stable? or at least not as buggy as edgy? :)07:47
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eagles0513875wont it be more buggy than edgy07:47
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mirshafieeagles0513875: if its more buggy than edgy im switching to dapper07:47
eagles0513875lol07:47
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Skullermirshafie: what do you mean by "buggy as edgy"?....Edgy is not even close to being as buggy as Feisty which is not even in beta stage yet07:48
eagles0513875that is my point skull any new os is going to be rather buggy07:48
eagles0513875not to mention not that much support07:48
eagles0513875can anyone explain to me when i try to log into xgl desktop all i get is a black screen07:48
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Skulleryes...true07:48
mirshafieSkuller: in other words, it's not a good idea to switch to feisty if the bugs in edgy are killing me?07:48
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eagles0513875what kind bugs mir07:49
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Skullermirshafie: yes it is not...to whatever bugs you refer to07:49
eagles0513875ask the problems ur haveing we might be able to help ya fix em07:50
Skuller!feisty | mirshafie - Go to this channel to further clarify your query07:50
ubotumirshafie - Go to this channel to further clarify your query: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)07:50
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mirshafieeagles0513875: well, totally weird character rendering for one. after a few weeks into a fresh edgy install, it would start slowing down to the point that it wasn't useful anymore. i never had any problems like that with warty, hoary or dapper07:51
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eagles0513875mir run sudo apt-get autoclean07:51
eagles0513875it cleans out all of install stuff that is left behind after pkg install07:52
eagles0513875and 2ndly how much ram and swap u have07:52
mirshafiei'm not on kubuntu anymore. switched to sabayon a few days back but sabayon is REALLY buggy :D07:52
eagles0513875lol07:52
mirshafie512 mb ram/swap07:52
eagles0513875come back to kubuntu07:52
mirshafiei will :D07:52
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eagles0513875i have 1.2gb with 256 swap07:52
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eagles0513875works like a charm07:52
eagles0513875not even using 256 of physical ram07:53
eagles0513875more like 250mb07:53
eagles0513875right now im using no swap07:53
eagles0513875250mb of ram07:53
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eagles0513875give it another try mir07:54
mirshafiewell, i don't think the ram is the problem. my problems were more like, everything works fine until BAM everything just slows down or crashes. + i it had some real issues with shutdown, sometimes it would freeze and stuff. and i've installed edgy cleanly at least five times since official release07:54
eagles0513875what file system did u use07:54
mirshafieext307:54
eagles0513875i have ext3 and im on duel boot07:55
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eagles0513875u using duel boot07:55
mirshafieno. just linux for me07:55
eagles0513875ok07:55
eagles0513875humm07:55
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chijinduel boot sounds like a serious fight between two OS's07:55
Skullerk laterz all..i am off to my sucking high schook07:55
eagles0513875no07:55
Skullerschool07:55
eagles0513875u on one at a time07:55
eagles0513875not on both at same time07:55
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eagles0513875mir try kubuntu again07:56
eagles0513875did u install alot of pkgs07:56
eagles0513875mir how old is the machine07:56
mirshafieeagles0513875: what's the point? at least sabayon hasn't started slowing down like a win95 yet? :)07:56
eagles0513875i cant even get it to work on the laptop07:56
mirshafieabout four years. it's a p407:56
eagles0513875i could be a hdd going bad on ya07:57
eagles0513875do u have a new comp or laptop07:57
eagles0513875mir07:58
bobdhicksWould someone help me learn to install new programs in kubuntu? No. 1: I don't know linux. When I use install program/files, I can't get to the cd where the programs are. I can't add it to the system. All that is there goes to the net. So far, I haven't been able to get my wireless router to work. I converted my laptop over completely to Kubuntu. I've read and tried to follow the directions in Help. Can't get Help for Adapt.07:58
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mirshafieyea, my hdd does have issues for sure. but i'm not sure if the problems i have are related.07:58
JohnFlux_How do I turn on my wireless card?07:59
JohnFlux_I've set the ip, set the mode, set the essid07:59
eagles0513875lol good luck with that john07:59
JohnFlux_ifconfig shows it up07:59
eagles0513875interesting07:59
JohnFlux_i think i'm just missing a command :-)07:59
Ryielis it right? exec kde-session ?07:59
eagles0513875what is it showing john07:59
eagles0513875is ur wifi wlan007:59
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JohnFlux_it's ra008:00
eagles0513875ra??08:00
eagles0513875never seen that before08:00
JohnFlux_iwconfig  shows Tx-power = 0dBm08:00
mirshafiebobdhicks: hit Alt+F2 and type 'kdesu adept-installer'. that should bring you to a more useful GUI than the Add/Remove programs thingy08:00
JohnFlux_eagles0513875: there's a reason but I forget it08:00
JohnFlux_eagles0513875: same as wlan etc though08:01
eagles0513875ok try ra0 up08:01
eagles0513875i think thats it08:01
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JohnFlux_eagles0513875: iwconfig ?08:01
eagles0513875no there is some command to bring the wlan up08:01
eagles0513875meaning turn it on08:01
JohnFlux_yeah I think there is08:02
n8k99how do i tell kde that my mouse only has two buttons?08:02
mirshafiebobdhicks: if it doesn't help, i always prefer to use the terminal. you can fire up Konsole and use apt-get to install something. Example: type "sudo apt-get install yakuake" to install yakuake; type "apt-cache search network card" to search for network cards08:02
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eagles0513875any luck john08:03
matlechi08:04
bigdad1ehow do i get to the network manager? the whois is what im looking for08:04
matleccan anyone tell me how to burn a cd with wodim? ;-)08:04
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matlecwodim /path/to/iso returns http://www.pastebin.ca/40542808:05
bigdad1e!whois08:05
ubotuwhois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 272 kB08:06
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bigdad1ehow do i use whois?08:09
bigdad1eterminal?08:09
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Tm_Tbigdad1e: whois in IRC or whois in network?08:10
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bigdad1ein network08:10
Tm_Twhois --help gives basic instructions08:10
Tm_T--help is your friend most of the time :)08:10
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bigdad1ethanks08:11
bigdad1ebut i did it in ubuntu and it pulled up all my info my name address and all08:11
bigdad1eit was in some network settings or something of that sort08:12
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Tm_T"whois kubuntu.org" as example08:12
bigdad1eyes but it wasnt in the terminal08:13
bigdad1enevermind i got it08:14
bigdad1ethanks08:14
Tm_Tnp08:14
bigdad1esee it pulled up my phone number and all08:14
bigdad1escarey08:14
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mattrperryhello...is this a channel to get help for newbies?08:15
eagles0513875yes08:15
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BluesKajask away mattrperry :)08:15
mattrperryI am literally brand new to Linux and the Kubuntu dist ... but I wanted to install in on our home network computers so that my son and I can learn it etc08:16
eagles0513875what operating system do u currently have on ur computers08:16
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eagles0513875and do u have any data u want to keep on there08:16
mattrperryI've got 2 pc's both now have edgy installed08:17
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eagles0513875ok what else do u want to do08:18
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eagles0513875wiht them besides network them08:18
mattrperryI was wanting to create a new repository file sources.list and then put it in the folder etc for adept and synaptic to use etc08:19
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mattrperrywent to source-o-matic and created a new sources.list file08:19
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mattrperryand now I want to use it in place of the default08:20
eagles0513875ok lol im sru im not much help08:20
eagles0513875still fairly new to kubuntu08:20
mattrperryright on08:20
mattrperryare you running any bleeding edge stuff?08:21
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eagles0513875all i can recommend is looking through the adept pkg manager for already compiled programs to install08:21
eagles0513875u mean like fedora lol08:21
eagles0513875no just edgy here08:21
morvokanyone know of a good capturing app?08:21
mattrperryright on08:21
chijini recommend editing the sources.list from console08:21
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chijinmuch easier08:21
eagles0513875wish i coudl be of more help08:21
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mattrperryhow do I do that? lol08:22
mattrperryusing Kate?08:22
chijinbut anyway, here's a way how to do it http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories08:22
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chijinjust replace sudo gedit with kdesu kate08:22
iwonkamwi kto po POLSKU?08:23
Skuller!pl08:23
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl08:23
mattrperryand will I be able to save it to the directory? ... so far it tells me that I have to have root to save the new sources.list file etc08:23
Skuller!bug 108:23
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents08:23
iwonkaok dzikuje08:23
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chijinmattrperry: open up konsole from the system menu, type in kdesu kate, and you'll be able to save it. kdesu opens software in root mode in kde08:24
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mattrperryright on...thanks08:25
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eagles0513875ttyl all08:27
rhkfin_Can anyone remember where can I find the new kubuntu feisty upgrade tool to try..08:27
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rhkfin_There was a blog post about it somewhere some days ago, afair08:28
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kunwon1rhkfin_: /topic08:28
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rhkfin_kunwon1: indeed..08:29
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tarnoldoi oi08:29
kunwon1:)08:29
tarnoldso whats the difference between opensuse and kubuntu?08:29
tarnoldyast is annoying08:30
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bxnphow can i change the themes for gtk apps08:33
bxnpand improve the qualtiy of the fonts wich are used cause they look damm ugly08:34
BluesKaj!fiesty | rhkfin_08:34
uboturhkfin_: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)08:34
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tarnoldhey in source o matic when it says create sources list for both options how do i get them both into one list?08:34
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tarnoldhello?08:36
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tarnold?08:38
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JohnFlux_Heh, I bought the cheapest pcmcia network card I could find08:40
JohnFlux_and it came with a cd with linux drivers08:40
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Aluminso, what's "The Debian Way(tm)" to add jobs to the startup process?08:40
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vermsHi!08:41
AluminI guess, make a script in /etc/init.d and symlink it into /etc/rcS.d ... but that seems a bit overkill just to run one command08:41
BluesKajtarnold . open your sources list in the runbox " kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list "  , then you can edit and add sources by copy and paste08:41
vermsI've got a problem with Kaffeine08:41
vermshe doesn't start08:41
tarnoldok, cos i put opensuse on my system but forgot to back up my sources list in case i went back to kubuntu(i probably will) so what is fiesty supposed to have in terms of laptop support08:42
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miltosok...with beryl, at last08:42
miltosberyl theme manager has a nice vista theme...08:42
BluesKajdunno, check fiesty at #ubuntu+108:43
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aaron_downloading open arena right now has anyone here tried it at all08:43
aaron_it sounds pretty good08:43
miltosand finally i hooked up the printer on my kubuntu...and send Windowz to the devil!08:43
BluesKajopen arena ... ?08:43
aaron_yea its like an open source game based around the quake 3 source08:44
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BluesKaj<--- sorry not a gamr08:44
aaron_its coo08:44
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BluesKajwell, that's a matter of taste for sure08:45
aaron_well if anyone wants a link its www.openarena.ws08:45
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Guniruspauljw: here?08:49
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pauljwhey08:49
miltosis there any *.par tool for reconstructing *.rar files?08:50
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miltoswhy you reconstruct rar files in kubuntu?08:54
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k3ksHi!08:59
aaron_what is the best image editor for Kubuntu is it Gimp or is there another08:59
k3ksGot a question08:59
aaron_sup08:59
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k3kswhere can I see what driver is used for my hardware?09:00
k3ksaaron_: what do like to draw? for vector graphics inkscape or xara is good09:00
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aaron_I have inkscape but I am looking for something more professional09:01
aaron_also I would like to do some flash and was wondering if there was any programs to do those kinda animations.09:01
k3ksaaron_: hmm, then i've got know idea, only to try running photoshop with wine09:02
aaron_yea09:02
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aaron_I might09:02
aaron_do that09:02
Lord_CerberHi all. I ve got the dvd image made in .mdf format - some windows dvd ripper's output. Is there any way to open or mount it in linux?09:02
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k3ksLord_Cerber: http://mdf2iso.berlios.de/09:08
k3ksgoogled it09:08
leighhey! i'm leigh. i have a question - how much memory should X be using up? its hogging all my resources! any ideas?09:09
k3kskaramba can take a lot of it09:09
k3ksgot that problem with a widget clock09:09
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Lord_Cerberk3ks thanks! Seems i.m a bad googler :)09:10
leighok. when i run ksysguard it shows X as using 266mn VmSize and 50MB VmRss. which is the right measure?09:10
k3ksno idea09:10
leighah ok!09:10
leighcheers anyway.09:10
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amorphous_andy09:11
NullbyteHey guys! Can anyone tell me why the livecd Kubuntu 6.10 just shows a black screen after doing the boot stuff? Ubuntu 6.06 livecd boots fine09:11
k3ksso back to my question: where can I see what driver is used for my hardware?09:12
amorphous_andy09:12
amorphous_andy_,09:12
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me2win!flash09:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:12
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash09:12
amorphous_in here...09:13
andy_http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia#Retrieval_of_package_files_from_the_nVidia_webserver09:13
amorphous_anyone here use beryl?09:13
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nosrednaekimhello everybody, automounting suddenly stopped working...09:14
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amorphous_andy_, whenever you'r speaking to someone, put their name at the start of the line - you can put a few letters and then hit TAB to autocomplete - same as in bash09:14
nosrednaekimI can still mount with the normal "sudo mount technique"09:14
Tm_Thmm, am I only one who suffers too hard focus robbery from Firefox ?09:14
k3ksamorphous_: yes i'm using beryl09:14
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andy_amorphous_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia#Retrieval_of_package_files_from_the_nVidia_webserver09:15
nosrednaekimTm_T: you can disable that in the control center... and yes..I happened to me09:15
amorphous_andy_, and if you go out of this window - there should be a line or something to mark where you left so you can check for stuff///09:15
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: hm?09:15
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amorphous_k3ks - don't suppose you're using an nvidia card, are you?09:15
nosrednaekimrun the command "kcontrol"09:15
amorphous_andy_, ta ;)09:15
k3ksamorphous_:  yes i'm using nvidia09:15
nosrednaekimdesktop-> WindowSpecific settings09:16
andy_k3ks: I'm having trouble getting beryl to work with nvidia09:16
k3ksread the beryl faq?09:17
amorphous_k3ks, I'm just gonna look some stuff up on a link andy gave me... He's been having a bit of a nightmare with beryl/nvidia. is very new to linux, but has intelligence ;) - may wanna pick your brains in a bit... that ok?09:17
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: aah, well, you don't hold my hand, IMHO this shouldn't need any windowspecific settings09:17
amorphous_getting there...09:17
andy_k3ks: any tips?09:17
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: btw windowspecific settings are easiest reached by rightclicking titlebar of app window ;)09:17
k3ksamorphous_: oh i'm not a linux brain^^09:17
k3ksI#m still very new09:17
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k3ksone moment09:18
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amorphous_k3ks, got beryl working though... :P09:18
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k3kshttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia09:19
k3ksthat may help09:19
jimmy_how do i join other irc networks like Dalnet?09:19
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amorphous_andy - how much of the webpage did you go through? you have the file... did you do the text browser thing too & log out of x?09:19
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NullbyteUm, guys? When is Feisty going to be released?09:19
amorphous_k3ks, thanks... am going through another too....09:20
faLUCEHi. how can i show info of my network adapter?09:20
nosrednaekimTm_T: you need to disable focus stealing for Firefox, by creating a new window specific setting, putting firefox as the command, and disabling focus stealing09:20
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k3ksfaLUCE: ifconfig09:20
nosrednaekim!fiesty09:20
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)09:20
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: I know09:20
andy_k3ks: cheers, I'll have another go. Are you using 64bit?09:20
NullbyteThanks nosrednaekim09:20
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: did this happen over one desktop to other?09:20
nosrednaekimTm_T: and its not working>09:20
k3ksandy_:  don't know^^09:21
faLUCEk3ks: i mean hardware infos09:21
faLUCE(manufacturer, model etc.)09:21
makii run autoremove and now i dont have some very important apps09:21
makihow can i install them again09:21
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: I'm not looking for "how I get rid of it" hack but looking if this is bug and need to be someway solved reasonably09:21
k3ksgot a intel cor2duo09:21
makiin fiesty09:21
nosrednaekimTm_T: oh I see....I don't know...09:22
k3ksdon't know  more09:22
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k3ksso but now i#ve got a problem too,09:22
nosrednaekimSo can anyone help me? I have a problem with automounting..09:22
nosrednaekimk3ks: yeah?09:22
blue|palmMy friend is trying to install kubuntu but it seems his driver isnt supported, so i gave him the ubuntu alternate cd09:22
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blue|palmbut now he cant login without x failing09:22
k3kshow can i figure out what dirver my wlan card is using?09:22
nosrednaekimk3ks: lsmod?09:23
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blue|palmwhat can I tell him? Hes tried all the drivers in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...09:23
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nosrednaekimand look through that list of a wireless driver09:23
leighhas anyone had problems connecting MTP device to amarok?09:23
leighor is it just me ;-)09:23
jimmy_how do i join other irc networks like Dalnet?09:24
cpk1leigh: what version of amarok?09:24
leighthe latest - 0.4.5 is it?09:24
cpk1leigh: iirc the newest amarok should come with full ipod/whatever support09:24
Nullbytejimmy_: Try visiting their website, it usually says09:24
leighand i've compiled it with mtp options - but when i try to connect it crashes09:24
leighi'm sure i've compiled it ok - it just seems to crash!09:25
nosrednaekimleigh: oh connect to your device or under normal use?09:25
nosrednaekim*on09:25
leighjust on connect to devide.09:25
cpk1leigh: also might want to ask in #amarok =)09:26
k3kshm i don't get it with lsmod, theres a long list but i can't finde anything called wlan09:26
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leighah i've just started using irc, didn't know there was a channel! i'm gonna head over there  - cheers guys09:26
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nosrednaekimk3ks: what card do you have?09:27
crustyhello! automatix can not continue because some kays could not be downloaded....any help!!!thanks09:27
k3ksnosrednaekim: dlink09:27
cpk1k3ks: pretty sure it should say what driver when you do sudo lshw09:27
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k3ksnosrednaekim: dwl g520+09:27
katia_hello everybody09:28
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nosrednaekimk3ks: do you know what the chipset is?09:28
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katia_how can i see encripted videos? i have downloaded fron amule.09:29
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k3ksnosrednaekim: no, i lookt into the manual but can't find it09:30
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cpk1k3ks: do "sudo lshw" that should tell you the chipset and it should also say the driver if it is already trying to use one for it09:31
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k3kscpk1: driver=acx_pci09:32
k3ksthats the driver?09:32
katia_someone genius in amule please09:32
nosrednaekimyep....now what did the "product" say09:32
dinoilpostinociao a tutti09:32
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k3ks product: ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface09:32
dinoilpostinocercavo info inerenti all' UMTS09:33
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k3ksthe thing is, I want to use it with arisnort^^09:33
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cpk1k3ks: ok... and you need to know the driver you have why?09:34
crustyhi guys..............is it automatix still down??????????09:35
LjLask in their channel, we don't deal with automatix here, and kind of discourage it. totally.09:35
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k3kscpk1: you have to select the driver in airsnort09:35
makiis there a way to make a apt comand that will work on every app09:35
crustywhitch channel????09:36
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dinoilpostinobye bye09:37
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nosrednaekim"sudo apt-get install <package name>09:37
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Nullbytemaki: What do you mean?09:38
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makii run autoremove (i mistaken it with autoclean09:39
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pollyoHello09:39
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pollyoI have some superkurumba apps running on my desktop anyone else here familiar with it?09:40
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wouterhpollyo: I have some superkaramba themes running, but I am not an expert09:42
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makipollyo:what you need09:43
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txwikingerAnybody know where /var/run is mounted?09:43
meme-2Hello folks.... anyone familiar with K3b?  I am having a problem with verification (after write)... K3b fails everytime... stating it cannot find the first file and then it aborts.09:43
Nullbytetxwikinger: Look in /etc/mtab09:43
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Trickserhi, i have installed the acroread-7.0.9 package. When I look into the help menu the version of Acrobat Reader it shows it is the 7.0.8 version... why?09:44
Nullbytememe-2: Sure its not a problem with your drive?09:44
meme-2The burn seems successful otherwise.09:44
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txwikingerNullbyte: right, but isn't that just a reflection of the mounts?09:44
meme-2Nullbyte: thx for reply.  The drive is fine and so is the burn each time.09:44
Nullbytetxwikinger: Also shows where they are mounted? :)09:45
romeohow do you make the panel gets 100% transparant?09:45
Nullbytememe-2: Oh. I dont know then, dont they have an IRC channel?09:46
txwikingertrue.. .I want to mount /var/run with an additional option09:46
wouterhtxwikinger: om my kubuntu edgy: varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)09:46
meme-2Nullbyte: No IRC channel (at least non that I can find)09:46
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txwikingerNullbyte: cool thanks,.., it worked09:46
meme-2I'll check again09:46
txwikingerI changed it in mtab and did mount -a09:47
wouterhtxwikinger: so I guess it's a fs in ram09:47
Nullbytememe-2: A forum then? Not sure if this is the best place to ask :)09:47
Nullbytetxwikinger: You are welcome!09:47
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txwikingerwouterh: yes it is09:47
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pollyowouterh: I just noticed today that the apps running can have icons stuck underthem.09:47
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pollyoAnyone know if there is an option to keep this from happening?09:48
txwikingerhmm.. I think I faked myself out09:48
makiromeo:right click on panel,if its locked unlock it,go on configure panel,looks and enable transparant,then advanced and take the slidebar to the left side09:48
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txwikingermount just displays the information from mtab09:48
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bw153is there anything that is similar to the EQ analyzers in amarok, but a fullscreen version?09:49
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Nullbytetxwikinger: Oh, try fstab then? ;)09:49
Nullbytetxwikinger: and edit mtab back again, its just a list of what is mounted and where09:49
Nullbytetxwikinger: fstab is where stuff is going to be mounted09:50
txwikingeryes.. but the tmpfs stuff is not in fastab09:50
Nullbytetxwikinger: No?09:50
Nullbytetxwikinger: Can you send me your mtab in a private message? :)09:50
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txwikingerhmm.. I have edited mtab again.. I think now it does what I want09:52
txwikingerAt least the error complaining about the option missing in the mount is not occuring anymore09:53
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the-ermAnyone know how to turn of the kubuntu splash screen at startup?  I seeing all the [ OK ]  messages.09:53
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c0nv1ctthe-erm: all the OK messages? what do you mean?09:54
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romeoWhat configuration is what shows all the list items in different colors? for example the nicks here.. One is dark grey and the other is lightgrey and then dark then light and so on.. Shows everywhere i have a list of several things.. Anyone knows what I mean?09:54
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wouterhtxwikinger: in /etc/init.d/mtab.sh varrun is added to mtab during boot09:55
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the-ermc0nv1ct: in other distros I've used you get messages like ... * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent postfix                                            [ ok ] 09:56
txwikingerah think wouterh09:56
the-ermWhile you're booting.09:56
txwikingerthanks09:56
c0nv1ctthe-erm: oh, the boot splash09:56
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c0nv1ctthe-erm: edit your grub.conf and remove "quiet" i believe that will make booting verbose09:57
the-ermok09:57
the-ermthanks.09:57
makiwhat was the name of the kubuntu conf. app09:57
c0nv1ctmaki: for what? general configuration?09:58
makiyes09:58
c0nv1ctmaki: kcontrol is one, systemsettings is another09:59
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makiok thakns09:59
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rigvedhi... is it ok to simply delete the eclipse folder to uninstall it?10:03
Nullbyterigved: Nope10:03
Nullbyterigved: Absolutely not10:04
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rigvedwell.... i already did that..10:04
rigvedwhat shud i do now?10:04
Nullbyterigved: write apt-get remove eclipse10:04
rigvedjust a sec.... thanks in advance anyways10:04
Nullbyterigved: Restore it from your trash? :x10:04
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miltosdigikam can not handle my Olympus C-350Z why?10:05
NullbyteDoes digikam support that camera?10:05
rigvedtrash is empty... shift deleted it... old windows habit10:06
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rigvedi m getting this Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:06
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Nullbyterigved: Did you use sudo to use the command as root?10:07
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rigvedyes i did10:07
carlos_ew10:08
rigvedu know... i had just downloaded it from the eclipse site and unzipped it10:08
rigvedthen i tried it and couldnt make the php thing work10:08
rigvedso i just deleted the whole folder10:08
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rigvedshud i just unzip the folder in the same location and then remove with apt-get10:09
Nullbyterigved: No10:09
rigvedok10:09
Nullbyterigved: You shouldnt unzip it at all10:09
rigvedo10:09
Nullbyterigved: What format is it in? .zip?10:09
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rigvedtar.gz10:10
NullbyteOh10:10
rigvedis that tar balls10:10
NullbyteDo they have a binary version available?10:10
rigvedi think so10:10
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NullbyteDont use tar balls, get a binary10:10
rigvedthat must be another 110 MB10:10
NullbyteLook for a .deb10:10
rigvedok...10:10
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rigvedbut what about this folder i deleted... will that create a problem10:10
rigvedthe eclipse folder10:11
NullbyteWhen you get it, use dpkg -i name.deb to install, mkay?10:11
NullbyteNope, it wont10:11
rigvedok cool10:11
Nullbyteyep10:11
rigvedthanks a lot man10:11
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rigvedi m a total noob10:11
rigvedwhen it comes to linux10:11
Nullbyte^^ We all were once10:11
rigvedcool10:11
NullbyteBy the way10:11
rigvedya10:11
NullbyteDid you try using the package manager to find it first?10:11
rigvedno10:12
NullbyteHehe10:12
rigvedjust went to the eclipse site10:12
NullbyteYou should do that, its way easier10:12
NullbyteOh10:12
rigvedand downloaded it10:12
NullbyteWindows habit :B10:12
rigvedya man10:12
rigvedtotally10:12
NullbyteLinux is much easier usually10:12
rigvedi just love the feel10:12
NullbyteWe use a package manager to find, download and install the stuff we need10:12
NullbyteIt also fixes dependencies and stuff10:12
rigvedi ll do that the next time i try out something10:12
NullbyteTry it now ;)10:13
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rigvedok10:13
rigvedshud i use synaptic?10:13
rigvedor the kubuntu add remove10:13
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NullbyteSynaptic10:14
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crackhead_25_question: what are the kubuntu tools or options for using it with a tablet laptop pc?? are there any? can it be done??10:14
crackhead_25_if not kubuntu, what is the best distro for a tablet laptop pc??10:14
nathanSay there, gentlemen. I was wondering as to how I gain access to root folders in nautilus?10:14
Nullbytecrackhead_25_: Did you look in the ubuntu wiki?10:14
nathanSorry, Konquerer10:14
Nullbytenathan: hit shift+F2 and write gksu konqueror10:14
crackhead_25_!wiki10:14
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation10:14
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Nullbytenathan: wait, its not gksu for kde10:15
Nullbytenathan: or is it? whatever10:15
Nullbytenathan: Does it work? :D10:15
nathan__Nullbyte: I'm not sure; I just switched to KDE and it's most literally the only thing I can't figure out10:15
Nullbytenathan: hum10:15
Nullbytenathan: :)10:15
Nullbytenathan: All you need to do is run it as root, nothing else10:15
Nullbytenathan: The easiest thing to do would be opening a terminal and writing sudo konqueror &10:16
nathan__nullbyte: sudo konqueror didn't work, but gksu konqueror did10:16
crackhead_25_nullbyte: doesn't really say all that much..10:16
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crackhead_25_nullbyte: it works somewhat with two tested ibm/lenovo tablets, but i was looking at the asus r1f specifically10:17
Nullbytecrackhead_25_: I dont really know much about running linux on a tablet, try googling it10:17
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Nullbytecrackhead_25_: Or wait for someone else to answer ;)10:17
Nullbytenathan___: Well thats good :)10:17
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rigvedhi nullbyte.. i got this eclipse here in synaptic10:18
rigvedshud ve installed it from here...10:18
Nullbyterigved: Hell yeah10:18
Nullbyterigved: Much easier, isnt it? ;)10:18
rigveddefinitely10:18
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rigvedcan u suggest a decent IDE for PHP, not quanta or bluefish10:18
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Nullbyterigved: Hm, does activestate do a linux version of komodo?10:19
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rigvedkomodo?10:19
Nullbyterigved: Um, wasnt for you, sorry10:19
pollyoYes!  Finnally I have K3b working!10:19
Nullbyterigved: or yes, it was10:19
Nullbyterigved: durr10:19
Nullbyterigved: x)10:19
pollyoIt didn't like the drives being set to cable select.10:20
rigvedhey10:20
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rigvedit looks like it does10:20
Nullbyterigved: komodo is a really great multilanguage IDE :)10:20
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Nullbyterigved: Not opensource though, as far as I know10:20
rigvedo ya10:20
rigvedshit...10:20
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Nullbyterigved: But if you can live with that, then just look for a trial or something10:21
rigvedbut then it ll die out in a month or so..10:21
Nullbyterigved: Thats what you would think, but they ask if you need more time to use it10:21
rigvedlol... wow10:21
Nullbyterigved: It is a bit unfair though, and you should really buy it if you like it10:21
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rigvedi know i know10:22
Nullbyterigved: ;)10:22
rigvedin india, that is something that has still not seeped into everyone's brain as yet10:22
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Nullbyterigved: In the world, you mean10:22
rigvedbying it is still a distant thought... only the big guys can afford to that10:22
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rigvedlol... in th world...10:22
Nullbyterigved: :>10:22
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Nullbyterigved: Pirateing is only for music and movies :D10:23
rigvedlol10:23
NullbyteIn my opinion at least :B10:23
NullbyteWell, and for photoshop10:23
NullbyteBut I dont beleive we should discuss this here, heh10:23
rigvedactually one of th main reason to shift to Linux is to avoid the pirated stuff10:23
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NullbyteMhm10:24
rigvedhe hehehe10:24
rigvedalso some more reasons10:24
NullbyteOf course10:24
mcquaidhello, i used the kde utility to create a samba mount in my fstab10:24
rigvedbut they are all very ambigous10:24
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Nullbytemcquaid: Yes?10:24
mcquaidi want to set up smb mount points on another machine that doesn't have this util10:24
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mcquaidjust looking at it:10:24
mcquaid\134\134192.168.11.3\134windows_f /media/network/windows_f cifs uid=0,gid=0,rw,nouser,guest 0 010:24
mcquaidI don't get what the 134 stands for?10:24
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miltoswhat's a good vector drawing program for kubuntu>10:25
Nullbytemcquaid: o_ I have no idea either, just copypaste it10:25
Nullbytemiltos: Inkscape10:25
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mcquaidok, wondering if it needs to be unique and is randomly generated or something10:25
rigvedHey NullByte.. thanks for the tips man....10:25
pollyoI accidently deleted one of the samba settings the graphical system didn't have a "Are you sure" when I accidently clicked delete.10:26
miltosNullbyte, lnkscape is it build in or i have to download it?10:26
Nullbytemcquid: I dont see any unique-looking things in there10:26
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mcquaidi was asking about the 134. what does that represent?10:26
Nullbytemiltos: I dont really know, I am using the ubuntu livecd myself at the moment, but just get it from synaptic10:26
rigvedgonna try n find some open source IDE for PHP... looks like i m gonna have to go back to Kate which aint bad either10:26
Nullbyterigved: You are welcome!10:26
Nullbyterigved: Never tried that10:27
Nullbyterigved: Try googling it? :o10:27
rigvedits under Kubuntu10:27
Nullbyterigved: I found a decent list once10:27
rigvedits ot syntax hilighting10:27
mcquaidpollyo: i always try to remember to back up the config before using the gui10:27
rigvedok10:27
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mcquaidi'm glad the gui is there, it's a good util, but I usually do10:27
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rigvedi just need something that has that Zend sort of automatic code completion thing10:28
eagles0513875any body know much about ati and xgl10:28
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eagles0513875i could use some help10:28
Nullbytemiltos: Its inkscape, and not Lnkscape by the way10:28
Nullbyteeagles0513875: Looked at the wiki yet? ;)10:29
eagles0513875tried all that10:29
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pollyomcuaid: Goot idea.10:29
eagles0513875for some reason i turned aglx off in xorg cfg10:29
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miltosNullbyte, i download inkscape with adept right now, thanks10:29
eagles0513875and for some reason my comp doesnt shut down i have to hold power button to turn it off10:29
Nullbyteeagles0513875: o_ Yes, and?10:29
mcquaidpollyo: the programs should make a backup by default though ;)10:29
miltosi need also a good conversion program for divx, xvid, avi etc...10:29
Nullbytemiltos: :) YOu are welcome10:29
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pollyomcquaid: Oh.  I'll have to check.10:30
Nullbytemiltos: Ooh. I think mplayer does that10:30
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mcquaidsorry i meant in an ideal world, i don't think it does10:30
eagles0513875how can i get the mesa glx to change fro indirect to direct and how can i get it to shut down with out holding powerbutton down10:30
Nullbytemiltos: With some fancy scripting. I know it does wma to mp3 at least :)10:30
chijinwma to mp3 is bad10:30
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pollyoAnyone know what I click on to rip a cd? (K3b)10:31
Nullbyteeagles0513875: I am sorry, but I dont know :)10:31
Nullbytechijin: It is?10:31
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eagles0513875anybody know10:31
eagles0513875how can i get the mesa glx to change fro indirect to direct and how can i get it to shut down with out holding powerbutton down10:31
NullbyteTry asking in #ubuntu10:32
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NullbyteTheres way more people there10:32
tuxligo Go Vegan!10:32
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chijinNullbyte: converting a lossy format to another would cause data loss. a 192kbps wma converted to 192kbps mp3 would probably sound worse than a 128kbps file10:32
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Nullbytetuxligo: Thats hard, especially if you like pork chops10:33
mcquaidNullbyte: the \134 stands for a backslash10:33
Nullbytechijin: Meh, how would you do that then?10:33
enrygood night!10:33
tuxligonullbyte: in spanish please10:33
Nullbytemcquaid: Oh, I see :)10:33
Nullbytetuxligo: Cant do that, sorry10:33
chijinNullbyte: you don't convert lossy formats without losing data10:33
miltosNullbyte, i want to convert avi's back to dvd...10:33
tuxligonulbyte: go vegan!10:34
Nullbytemiltos: I dont know anything about that, ask someone else :)10:34
Nullbytechijin: Bah. Thanks for telling me, I didnt know that :)10:34
ugamiltos: gentoo got some nice tutorials10:35
pollyoBBL10:35
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cpk1miltos: use ffmpeg10:35
chijinNullbyte: more info here :-P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcoding10:35
ugaa second10:35
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miltosthanks...10:35
Nullbytechijin: :D Thanks10:35
ugamiltos: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Index:HOWTO_Create_a_DVD10:35
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ugahow to do that step by step10:35
cpk1miltos: ffmpeg -i nameofavi -target dvd nameofoutput10:35
ugafrom encoding to burning10:36
rigvedHey Nullbyte... any idea about whats this emacs10:36
tuxligopereira from brazil!10:36
ugacpk1: doesn't that miss anything about aspect ratio, pal/ntsc option...?10:37
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uga> ffmpeg \10:37
uga>    -i ${VIDEO}.avi \10:37
uga>    -pass 2 \10:37
uga>    -target pal-dvd \10:37
uga>    -aspect 16:9 \10:37
uga>    ${VIDEO}.mpg10:37
Nullbyterigved: I have never really used it, but I hear its quite good for some, quite horrible for others10:37
rigvedcool10:37
cpk1it should manage to figure it out for itself10:37
Nullbyterigved: Give it a shot :)10:37
rigvedk10:37
cpk1kind of like when you mount it can usually figure out the fs10:38
rigvedhow do u have rigved: typed in ur response and its red10:38
cpk1i'm just guessing though =P I've never had any aspect ratio problems10:38
ugacpk1: I mean mainly about pal/ntsc10:38
ugayour dvd may not like to drop in a pal dvd if it's from the US10:38
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cpk1then just use ntsc/pal10:39
Nullbyterigved: Only you see it as red, since it is your name. If you write Nullbyte in your message, I see it as red.10:39
rigvedNullbyte: o.. so this is red now10:40
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rigvedand this isnt?10:40
NullbyteRight you are10:40
rigvedcool10:40
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rigvedwhat would i do without u man10:40
NullbyteUseful for talking to people and make sure they notice it if they arent afk :D10:40
rigvedur a life saver10:40
NullbyteDunno, ask someone else I guess, heh10:40
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rigvedlol10:40
NullbyteWhy thank you very much!10:40
rigvedactually i rarely laugh out loud10:41
NullbyteSame here10:41
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NullbyteWhat an interesting coincidence10:41
rigvedNullbyte: i m going to start typing the whole thing now10:41
rigvedLaughs out Loud10:41
Nullbyte\o/10:41
rigvedthat shud bring about its futility to communicate a chuckle10:42
rigvedNullbyte: where u from10:42
Nullbyterigved: Denmark, actually! Gogo private messages, this doesnt belong here10:42
rigvedNullbyte: I tried that, it says imust register10:43
Nullbyterigved: Bummer, just a second10:43
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Nullbyterigved: Did you receive my message? :x10:44
rigvedNullbyte no10:44
Nullbyterigved: Oop10:44
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Nullbyterigved: Just register then, its not hard at all10:45
Nullbyterigved: You need a valid email adress though :o10:45
rigvedNullbyte: buts its free!10:45
rigvedNullbyte: registering for something thats free cant be worth it!!10:45
Nullbyterigved: Register your nickname, not your client or whatever you mean10:45
rigvedNullbyte: laughs out loud10:45
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rigvedNullbyte i m just kidding10:46
Nullbyterigved: \o/10:46
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ugauhm, qtemu looks a nice gui10:48
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MyNameIsBobhello10:50
NullbyteWhy hello there10:50
MyNameIsBobi've never used irc before... thought i'd test it ^^10:50
Nullbyte^^ Good idea, its pretty cool.10:50
MyNameIsBobyeah, looks like i could get used to this10:51
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MyNameIsBobguess it's good for support10:51
NullbyteHell yeah10:51
MyNameIsBobah well. at the moment everything is working perfectly :)10:52
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NullbyteWell, thats great, hehe. Try the off topic channel, I guess its more suitable for conversations like this10:53
MyNameIsBobhow do i get there?10:54
MyNameIsBobi only see the #kubuntu channel... is that a channel? lol10:54
Nullbytehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat list of ubuntu channels10:54
NullbyteIs, #kubuntu is a channel x)10:54
rigvedNullbyte: i think i registered10:54
Nullbytewrite /join #ubuntu-offtopic or such10:54
MyNameIsBobthx :) btw, is there a way to change the login screen of kubuntu. the place where u type in ur name and password?10:55
Nullbyterigved: Thats cool, but I forgot my password :D Lets make a channel instead, shall we?10:55
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NullbyteMyNameIsBob: Of course! There is some settings button at the login screen, isnt there?10:55
rigvedNullbyte: but how th hell do i know if this is gonna work... it just made a channel called rigved10:55
rigvedthats what it looks like10:56
rigvedthere s #kubuntu followed by rigved10:56
NullbyteMyNameIsBob: Else I guess you can edit it in some KDE system settings tool10:56
MyNameIsBobNullbyte: yeah, i've checked there. can find the splash screen but not login10:57
rigvedya thats right... ust saw10:57
rigvedits in the sys settings / splash screen10:57
rigvedo10:57
MyNameIsBobbut the splash screen is sth else10:58
MyNameIsBobit comes after the login10:58
Nullbyterigved: I dont know how this is going to work, I dont like this IRC server x) You got MSN or something like that?10:58
rigvedya10:58
rigvedi ve got kopete10:58
NullbyteMyNameIsBob: I know you can edit the config files, but I bet there is some easier tools10:58
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Nullbyterigved: Do you have an MSN account? x)10:58
rigvedNullbyte no... how do u get that10:59
rigvedlaughs out loud10:59
rigvedst.walmik10:59
rigvedor gimme urs.. whatever10:59
Nullbyterigved: assaultdk at gmail dot com10:59
MyNameIsBobah well. thx for ur help Nullbyte11:00
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crackhead_25_wher'es kde install path?11:01
NullbyteMyNameIsBob: You are very welcome!11:01
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Nullbytecrackhead_25_: /opt/ or /usr/something I guess11:01
SkreechWhere is a netwrk card defined?11:02
yani'm from poland my name is jan.11:02
SkreechWhen I try to bring up my wireless card in the GUI it enables then instantly isables11:02
crackhead_25_anyone know the kde install path?11:02
yani find people with poland11:02
ugaSkreech:  /etc/network/interfaces11:02
rigvedNullbyte can u go to FIle>Join Channel> and then type rigved11:02
NullbyteI am from Denmark. Do you have a problem with anything, Yan?11:02
SkreechWhen I do it from the terminal it get wlan0 does not exist11:02
Kr[4] t05I dunno why... But Amarok won't adhere to my KDE theme settings...11:03
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crackhead_25_i mean, what's the kde-base-path??11:03
Skreechuga: for a wireless card does it need anything other than the iface wlan0 inet dhcp line?11:03
slyfoxWhat can I use to convert mpeg to avi ?11:03
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ugaSkreech: depends on what sort of wireless lan11:04
crackhead_25_slyfox: kino11:04
yando you speak polisch??11:04
Skreechuga: You mean the chipset or how it's connected to the computer?11:04
ugaSkreech: you could use kwifimanager11:04
Skreech!pl11:04
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl11:04
ugathat will save you some time11:04
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ugaSkreech: access codes (wap/wpa/wpe...)11:04
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slyfoxcrackhead_25_: why is it when I one a file with kino it tells me that it is not a DB file, do I want to import it? and then it takes a long tiem to import. ?11:05
yandzieki11:05
ugas/wap/wep11:05
crackhead_25_adept kino with all of its plugins11:05
crackhead_25_you'll get a very powerful solution11:05
Skreechuga: that shouldn't make a difference if the card can't come up I think11:05
crackhead_25_if you want something much less, there are some commandline apps, i think, which can do it, but i'm not familiar at the moment.11:05
ugaSkreech: if you configure dhcp alone, and not define the access point or anything, it won't be able to do anything afaik11:05
ugaof course the card should be up first11:06
ugabut not the wlan0 interface11:06
Skreechgrabbing kwifimanager11:06
SkreechNot sure of the wisdom of making people downloadthat but in any case :)11:06
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ugaheh11:06
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Skreechuga: Right now what?11:07
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SkreechThe access point should be discoverable right?11:07
slyfoxcrackhead_25_: how do I "adept kino with all of its plugins"  via adept i jsut got kino11:07
ugaSkreech: not necessarily. Mine isn't11:07
roland_how can i get rid of each and every app in kde asking me 'are you sure ?' so i dont have to go trough this annoyance for each application and select 'dont ask again'11:08
slyfoxcrackhead_25_: I think I got it11:08
Skreechifconfig -a gives me a eth111:08
crackhead_25_i don't know if there are any plug-ins for kino. adept should tell you.11:08
Skreechno wlan011:08
ugaSkreech: I wish I could tell you exactly the settings, but unfortunately I don't have wifi on this desktop, only on my lappie11:08
crackhead_25_though, if there are, try 'em out.11:08
Skreechuga: Don't really need exact settings. Just want to get the card up11:08
ugaSkreech: was the wifi card detected?11:08
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leniamule its working good with linux? someone have experience?11:08
Skreechuga: lshw sees it and iwconfig sees it11:08
crackhead_25_you'll see kino gives you all the options in the world--certainly enough to convert.. and do all kinds of other neat things..11:08
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SkreechHowever it's disabled11:09
ugauhm11:09
Skreechtrying to enable it gives wlan0 does not exist11:09
ugawhat does ifup wlan0 say?11:09
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Skreech^^^11:09
ugauhm11:09
slyfoxcrackhead_25_: I isntalled Kino 95 version and it was kompiled, how do I get rid of it now? It is not in adept11:09
SkreechNo such device11:10
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slyfoxcrackhead_25_: sudo apt-get autoremove kino  ?11:10
roland_do you guys who use kubuntu upgraded to kde 3.5.6 or are you using  the stock 3.5.5 ?11:10
ugaSkreech: is that an ndiswrapper card, or fully supported one?11:10
ugaI was using ndis myself11:10
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blizzzekhi utnubuk11:11
utnubukhi11:11
SkreechLet me check11:11
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SkreechBroadcom11:12
crackhead_25_slyfox: i guess. did it not work?11:12
SkreechThere is a driver there already11:12
Skreechlshw has the logical name as eth111:12
roland_will there be a flash player 9 for linux ?11:12
Skreechifup eth1 gives an already configured11:13
Skreech!flash911:13
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash11:13
ugaSkreech: oh, then... lol11:13
SkreechOh Yeah Duh Kwifimanager says eth1 as well11:13
ugaSkreech: sounds like eth1 is your wifi card11:13
ugaweird name =)11:13
SkreechIt doens't see the wireless though11:13
ugatry dhcpcd eth111:13
slyfoxcrackhead_25_: no, kino from console still launches kino 0.95 version whereas from adept I removed 0.90 version. Purgin and removing did not help. althoug I jsut installed kino again from adept, it laucnhes 0.90 from reposs via Kmenu icon. but via konsole I get 0.95 version11:14
Skreechuga: dhcdbd ?11:14
ugauhm... it's not dhcpcd in ubuntu. sorry =)11:14
ugaSkreech: I'm an ex-too guy ;)11:14
Skreechdhclient?11:14
ugayeah, but I should check usage ;)11:14
ugayeah, the same I think11:14
ugadhclient eth111:14
ugaif iwconfig was set the right ESSID you should receive a nice ip address11:15
slyfoxcrackhead_25_: I still get this message whenever I open soemthing: THis is not a DV file, do you want to import it ?11:15
SkreechI really don't think that will work. Kwifimanager gives an instant reponse of no network found11:15
ugawell, is the access point's ESSID visible?11:15
ugaelse it won't find any networks iirc11:15
SkreechYes11:15
ugauhmpf11:16
SkreechUnless someone has been messing with it11:16
SkreechBut it's for our clients to walk in and use11:16
SkreechWe give them a key but it pops up and they try to join then it asks for the key11:17
SkreechThis won't even go that far11:17
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roland_should i upgrade the 6.10 stock kde to 3.5.6 or its better to leave it ?11:19
Skreechroland_: Whichever pleases you11:20
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sinisterguyis there anything like textmate style snippets in kate?11:22
roland_where do i configure wich services are enabled at boot11:24
roland_like in ubuntu11:24
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Skreechroland_: system settings11:25
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Hasrat_USAgood evening everyone11:30
NullbyteGood evening to you too!11:31
morvok*rage*11:31
Hasrat_USAthanks Null :)11:31
Nullbyte^^11:31
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utnubukwhat sys monitor is in this picture: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=54304&file1=54304-1.jpg&file2=54304-2.jpg&file3=&name=Green+On+Black  ???11:33
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Shaezscheis there a way to convert mdf files to isos?11:33
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morvokwhat do ya need a sys monitor for?11:34
utnubukjust want one :)11:34
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utnubukit looks kinda cool11:34
Pephello there11:35
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MinceRutnubuk: looks like torsmo to me11:35
eilkeri am trying to open http://www.godaddy.com  , firefox brings to me , some advertisements sites , and i cant view http://www.godaddy.com , any idea ?11:35
utnubukMinceR: thanks man11:35
Pepdoes somebody know how to display a konsole into konqueror?11:36
eilkeri deleted all private data from firefox too11:36
MinceRnp. check it though, i'm not sure.11:36
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aaron__what is the sys monitor that sits at the side of the screen\11:36
aaron__it has like a white border I really like tthat one but dont know where to get it11:36
morvokrunning 3 of 183 cpu's hehe11:36
SkreechPep: F4?11:37
Pepwell...11:37
Pep:)11:37
PepI was wondering if it was possible to integrate a konsole INSIDE konqueror like kate11:37
Pep(F4 works but it's outside)11:38
SkreechF8?11:38
Pepbingo :)11:38
wolferineshaving an issue or two, after I installed Ubuntu, I found that my mouse moves quickly.  I did the obvious and changed the settings in System->Prefences->Mouse, but this ended up slowing my mouse down, to a crawl, making any task very difficult, so I reformatted/reinstalled, now its happening again, with a combination of keyboard issues11:38
Pepthat works :)11:38
Pepthx11:38
SkreechPep: Settings -> Shortcuts -> search helps a lot11:38
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FragUPlentyso wait11:39
FragUPlentywhat is the name of the resource monitor11:39
FragUPlentyI know DSL uses it11:39
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Pepwell in fact I've seen in front page of konqueror that it was possible but trying to do what they say in front page didn't worked ... :( so that's why i didn't search in help :)11:39
Pepsorry11:40
SkreechPep: Not help shortcuts :)11:40
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Skreechs/help/help./11:40
Pepi've got a last question... (stupid one perhaps)...11:40
FragUPlentyneeds to know11:40
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FragUPlentylol11:40
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Hasrat_USApep hmm I just tried to view an integrated Konsole inside Konqueror by pressing F8 but since I'm beryl, it probably took away the shortcut key and grouped the open windows in a 3D environment instead of opening Konsole11:41
FragUPlentyok this might sound a bit odd but I think I am gonna try google lol11:41
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Hasrat_USA*I'm using Beryl11:41
SkreechHasrat_USA: Yeah Beryl sucks if you have a keyboard :-)11:41
SkreechIt's so a Gnome technology11:41
PepI've assigned an open action on right click for python and want to add/modify them ...11:42
Hasrat_USAyeah may be11:42
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PepBut I can't find what to launch to configure them :(11:42
Pepany idea?11:42
SkreechIn python?11:42
eaglesguys im on the kubuntu server kernel and for some reason i cant get on here with my regestered screen name11:42
Hasrat_USAfor python?11:42
Pepheu no sorry11:42
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Peplet re say this11:43
Hasrat_USAare you talking about the shortcut that opens Python?11:43
Pepin konqueror, on .py file I can do open with...11:43
eagleshow do i close ports11:43
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PepI've set "open with.." to open .py files with python11:43
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Skreecheagles: close ports?11:43
Pepbut I want to add/modify some other actions11:43
SkreechPep: Ah file associations11:44
Pepyep11:44
Hasrat_USAI thought Python is an interpreted programming language11:44
eaglesya i installed a server kernel which i booted into11:44
PepI can't find where to manage these ones!!11:44
Pepyet it is11:44
eaglesand it is showing alot more open ports with unknown services11:44
SkreechSettings -> configure konqueror -> file associataions11:44
Pep...11:44
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Pepso simple...11:44
Pepok11:44
Pep:)11:44
Skreecheagles: The server kernel has no ports open by default11:44
PepI've looked around during 30mn....11:45
Skreechso You need to shutdown what ever ports you opened11:45
eaglesi never opened any11:45
FragUPlentyok so I downloaded conky thats the sys monitor11:45
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SkreechPep: I read thatas Nano minutes :)11:45
FragUPlentybut I need to move it around11:45
Skreecheagles: Shouldn't have any open then11:45
FragUPlentyanyone know how to do that11:45
eaglesok11:45
Skreecheagles: Why can't you register?11:45
eaglesi already have a registered screen name eagles0513875 but its saying its in use11:46
Pep?_?11:46
eaglessays nick name is in use11:46
eaglescould it be the kernel im on blocking the port to the nickserv11:46
Skreecheagles: so ghost it then11:46
eagleswhat u mean11:46
eaglesghost it11:46
Skreechtype /msg nickserv ghost <name> <password>11:47
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wolferinesanyone able to help with the keyboard/mouse issue?11:49
Skreechwolferines: quickly11:49
SkreechWatsit?11:49
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wolferinesthe mouse moves quickly11:49
wolferinesand the keyboard does a few odd things11:50
Skreechturn down mouse accelration11:50
wolferinesit will be this setting, or extremely slow11:50
roland_hey, i just experienced kernel/init/fsck failure on my machine after rebooting kubuntu11:50
roland_killing processes11:50
Skreechwolferines: check your locale?11:50
wolferineslocale?11:50
Skreechyes that your keyboard is set for the language you expect11:50
wolferinesthink its my driver setup (during my new install)11:50
SkreechIt may be set to something that gives you strange output11:51
Skreechwolferines: system settings is a good place to start11:51
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SkreechGotta run11:51
Skreecheagles0513875: There you go11:51
eagles0513875does that mean someone else has same screen name11:51
eagles0513875or just have to reset it11:51
Skreechor you hada ghost11:51
eagles0513875waht is a ghosst11:51
roland_Mar 22 00:48:46 icecream kdm_greet[4220] : Can't open default user face11:52
roland_Mar 22 00:48:56 icecream kdm_greet[4220] : Internal error: memory corruption dete11:52
roland_cted11:52
roland_whats this11:52
wolferinesSkreech: thats not it11:52
SkreechWhen you logout sometimes your name stays as a ghost11:52
wolferinesdriver issue?11:52
Skreechwolferines: Maybe :)11:52
eagles0513875oh ok11:52
wolferinesso look into a xorg.conf edit?11:52
Skreechwolferines: if it helps you can ask in #ubuntu as well11:52
wolferines+b on me11:52
wolferineshmm11:53
wolferinesatleast he tried11:53
eagles0513875anyone know much about xgl11:53
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eagles0513875anyone know much about xgl11:55
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wolferinesasking every minute will probably not get you an asnwer11:56
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NullbyteJust ask your question, eagles11:56
eagles0513875i try to boot into an xgl desktop but all i get is a black screen11:56
c0nv1cteagles0513875: ati or nvidia?11:57
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eagles0513875ati radeon 200m xpress11:58
eagles0513875i arleady ran the beryl script and installed it11:58
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Spora_n27ciao a tutti11:58
c0nv1cteagles0513875: did you install the ati drivers?11:59
c0nv1cteagles0513875: oh, you used a script, any idea what the script did?11:59
eagles0513875yes i did11:59
eagles0513875ya11:59
Spora_n27italian??11:59
eagles0513875installed drivers and beryl11:59
sinisterguyis there any way to get snippets like in gedit in kate?11:59
eagles0513875!it12:00
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:00
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c0nv1cteagles0513875: have you checked the logs to see if there were any errors?12:00
eagles0513875no12:00
c0nv1cteagles0513875: and by black screen, do you mean, your monitor shut off?12:00
eagles0513875and when i open beryl manager in regular desktop it causes my system to hang like mad12:00
eagles0513875ya12:00
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c0nv1cteagles0513875: i dont know enough about ati drivers to troubleshoot, but it sounds like a driver problem12:01
c0nv1cteagles0513875: did you reboot after running the script?12:01
eagles0513875yes and restarted x multiple times12:01
c0nv1cteagles0513875: hmm, i wish i could help, ati is a bit more difficult to setup than nvidia, which i use12:02
eagles0513875is there an ati channel12:02
c0nv1cteagles0513875: best bet is to search the forums for ati related xgl issues12:02
c0nv1cteagles0513875: try #ubuntu-effects or #beryl12:02
eagles0513875ok ty12:02
c0nv1cteagles0513875: or even #xgl i guess12:03
chijineagles0513875: what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say when you're in your normal x.org session?12:03
FragUPlentyI love Ubuntu and I dont care what anyone says, this is way better then microsoft and apple12:03
FragUPlentybut heres a problem12:03
FragUPlentywhy sometimes do the package managers fail to work12:03
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c0nv1ctFragUPlenty: depends on the error12:04
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FragUPlentyno error just wont start12:04
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c0nv1ctFragUPlenty: that happens to me too, i think its a problem with kdesu12:04
eagles0513875its indirect12:04
eagles0513875its indirect in my normal session12:04
chijinsometimes i need to click the adept icon twice to get it running12:04
c0nv1ctFragUPlenty: i try to use the CLI to do aptitude stuff unless i need to search for a package12:04
chijineagles0513875: makes sure glxinfo returns 'direct rendering: yes' in x.org session before you try to run beryl in xgl12:06
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eagles0513875ok ill try that now12:07
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eagles0513875ill try that later actually im rather busy atm12:07
eagles0513875thanks for ur help12:07
FragUPlentyneed to run it from the terminal to get the error probably12:07
FragUPlentyits working right now12:07
FragUPlentybut it wasnt before12:07
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chijineagles0513875: if it returns anything else, you have a driver issue, not a beryl problem :-P12:08
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c0nv1ctchijin: or an "ati sucks" problem :P12:09
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chijini can install fglrx from the repos just as easily as i can nvidia-glx12:09
bigdad1ewhats the command to see my usb's and whats using them?12:10
bigdad1elsusb?12:10
chijinsetting up beryl is not any more difficult with ati, in my opinion12:10
bigdad1ecOnv1ct: whats the command to see my usb plugins in the konsole?12:11
c0nv1cttoo bad the nvidia driver in the repos is crap, unless you add a custom repo12:11
c0nv1ctbigdad1e: usb devices?12:11
bigdad1ecOnv1ct: yes12:12
bigdad1ecOnv1ct: lsusb?12:12
c0nv1ctyep12:12
chijinwhat's crap about the default repo driver?12:12
bigdad1ecOnv1ct: its not showing anything12:12
c0nv1ctchijin: its version 8776, and 9755 is way better12:12
chijinc0nv1ct: what's the repo again, i might as well upgrade12:13
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c0nv1ctchijin: the custom one? i dunno, i installed manually12:13
kel3hi!!!12:13

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