[12:15] <xst> The print dialog in many applications (e.g. firefox and acroread) has "letter" as the default paper size. How do I set the default paper size to A4?
[12:15] <easytiger> doesnt kate have an html tidy?
[12:16] <yoavg> I started d/ling the alternate version.. It'll take a while. Is there any chance of doing something with the regular version (some special boot option or something)?
[12:18] <dwidmann> easytiger, if it does, it might be part of the  kate-plugins package
[12:19] <easytiger> yea... i have that.. dont see it.
[12:19] <dwidmann> I'm pretty sure Quanta does ... and it's more or less a heavily glorified kate :)
[12:20] <easytiger> hmm. i ran from cli, but it just removed all indentation
[12:20] <easytiger> tidy -im
[12:21] <dwidmann> pretty sure quanta has an auto-indenter of sorts too, not sure how well it works ..
[12:22] <dwidmann> hmm, seems it works pretty well
[12:26] <Elvis_Presley> !es
[12:26] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:26] <Compleja> thnks xD
[12:28] <lindinha> ola
[12:28] <lindinha> boa noite
[12:29] <nivnoach> hello
[12:30] <nivnoach> I'm trying to install firefox and some more tools, but it seems as if there are not repositories containing these tools defined.
[12:30] <nivnoach> I guess I have to look somewhere for repositories addresses
[12:30] <nivnoach> where can I do that?
[12:32] <Carutsu> nivnoach
[12:33] <Carutsu> firefox can be installed from the repostories
[12:33] <Carutsu> using adept or in command line using apt-get, however, are you sure you have the universe and multiverse repostories enabled?
[12:33] <nivnoach> what's is the keyword for thaT?
[12:34] <nivnoach> I think not.... these two contain all these tools?
[12:34] <Carutsu> contain firefox yes
[12:34] <nivnoach> ok
[12:34] <nivnoach> I'll give it a shot thanks
[12:34] <Carutsu> the extensions must be downloaded from the web
[12:35] <nivnoach> multiverse?
[12:35] <nivnoach> I don't have this one at all... only universe and backports
[12:36] <Carutsu> im afraid i don't know the url
[12:36] <Carutsu> although with universe should be enough... i hope
[12:36] <Carutsu> and the extensions should be downloaded from: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/extensions/
[12:37] <Carutsu> are you using adept?
[12:37] <nivnoach> nope.... I'm using commandline
[12:37] <Carutsu> dont forget to click apply, i usually forget
[12:37] <Carutsu> oh, ok, ok
[12:37] <Carutsu> apt-get then
[12:37] <nivnoach> ya
[12:38] <Carutsu> apt-get mozilla-firefox
[12:38] <nivnoach> though still it claims:
[12:38] <nivnoach> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[12:38] <nivnoach> Mozillla
[12:38] <nivnoach> oh
[12:39] <nivnoach> Package mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:39] <nivnoach> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:39] <nivnoach> is only available from another source
[12:39] <nivnoach> E: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[12:39] <Carutsu> er, let me check
[12:41] <Carutsu> deb http://XX.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse universe
[12:41] <Carutsu> deb http://XX.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse multiverse
[12:41] <Carutsu> where XX is your country code
[12:43] <nivnoach> still the samme
[12:43] <nivnoach> adept it is
[12:44] <rigogama> http://latinmail.com
[12:44] <Carutsu> ok
[12:46] <bonbonthejon> !source-o-matic | nivnoach
[12:46] <ubotu> nivnoach: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:46] <yacoob> what's the deal with firefox' menu decolorize on mouse movement? :((
[12:47] <yacoob> it makes menu look pretty first, next second ugly :(
[12:48] <maki> apt-get autoremove removes only old programs
[12:48] <maki> ?
[12:48] <dwidmann> It removes programs that it thinks are orphaned/no longer necessary
[12:48] <bonbonthejon> maki: unused packages, stuff that isnt used by other packages
[12:48] <dwidmann> AT least, that's wh at it's supposed to do
[12:48] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to add cups protocol to kmyfirewall???
[12:49] <LJL> maki, autoremove removes any package that was not *manually* installed (i.e. explicitely by you) and that is not required by any other package anymore
[12:49] <LJL> i find it's usually safe to use. and as well it should
[12:49] <yacoob> noone has a problem with firefox like mine one? :/
[12:49] <maki> ok
[12:49] <maki> thanks
[12:50] <bonbonthejon> yacoob: I use konqueror
[12:51] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to add cups protocol to kmyfirewall??
[12:52] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, autoremove also removes changes such as the fglrx binary drivers for DRI
[12:52] <bigdad1e> !scim | bigdad1e
[12:53] <frojnd> !codecs
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:54] <bigdad1e> !ati
[12:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:55] <BluesKaj> !fglrx
[12:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:55] <bigdad1e> lspci see's my vga but not the model. what do i do?
[12:57] <c0nv1ct> bigdad1e: try lshw
[12:58] <frojnd> !lmsensors
[12:58] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[12:59] <bigdad1e> cOnv1ct: what am i looking for? display it says nvidia i have ati
[01:00] <bigdad1e> cOnv1ct: nm i see it
[01:00] <bigdad1e> cOnv1ct: but it doesnt tell me what model it is and the size is wrong
[01:00] <BluesKaj> !ATI
[01:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:01] <hendaus> hello
[01:01] <hendaus> somebody help me!
[01:01] <bigdad1e> plz dont give me that again. ive been through that it helped as much as it could i just cant get it to load with my vga past the kubuntu boot/loading screen
[01:01] <bigdad1e> alt ctrl f1 doesnt do anything either
[01:02] <hendaus> helpers i need a help
[01:02] <kory_> heya, anyone know how to change the default file manager in kde?
[01:02] <bigdad1e> hendaus: what do u need help with?
[01:02] <coreymon77> !ask| hendaus
[01:02] <ubotu> hendaus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:03] <BluesKaj> bigdad1e , alt+F1
[01:03] <hendaus> bigdad1e,  thanx, i am newbie on kubuntu linux, i have two files .mpeg and i need to make them as dvd player
[01:03] <bigdad1e> bluesKa: doesnt do anything as well
[01:04] <kakarotto> hi
[01:04] <bigdad1e> hendaus: u need to play then or write them?
[01:04] <BluesKaj> are you at the prompt in terminal , bigdad1e
[01:04] <BluesKaj> ?
[01:04] <bigdad1e> blueska: yes
[01:04] <kakarotto> question!!, how i can change the fstab??
[01:04] <kakarotto> anyone know??
[01:05] <hendaus> bigdad1e,  i have a dvd player and i want to burn the two .mpeg files
[01:05] <BluesKaj> kdesu kate /etc/fstab, kakarotto
[01:05] <bigdad1e> !dvdburning|hendaus
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdburning - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <bigdad1e> hendaus: ok here this will tell u everything. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning?highlight=%28dvd%29%7C%28burn%29
[01:06] <BluesKaj> !K3B
[01:06] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[01:06] <kakarotto> mmm i using kubuntu
[01:07] <hendaus> BluesKaj,  i have k3b but i dont know how to burn to dvd player
[01:07] <bigdad1e> hendaus: that how to forum will tell u everything
[01:07] <hendaus> ok
[01:08] <BluesKaj> kakarotto , kdesu kate /etc/fstab in the kmenu run command box
[01:08] <bigdad1e> blueska: is there any way i can get my vga to work correctly from the termianl?
[01:09] <BluesKaj> hendaus, read about K3B first then maybe we can answer , your question is too general in nature
[01:09] <kory_> heya, anyone know how to change the default file manager in kde?
[01:10] <BluesKaj> bigdad1e , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:10] <hendaus> BluesKaj,  i open k3b and i make open new project then dvd, i add the two files and then i hit burn and it gives error
[01:11] <maki> can i reverse the autoremove comand
[01:11] <BluesKaj> hendaus , can you play a dvd ?
[01:12] <hendaus> BluesKaj, yes
[01:13] <hendaus> BluesKaj,  so that i need to burn two mpeg film files and to make them to read dvd player
[01:13] <hendaus> bigdad1e,  it doesnot tell the site about burning dvd movies
[01:13] <bigdad1e> hendaus: ok here this will tell u everything. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning?highlight=%28dvd%29%7C%28burn%29
[01:14] <dwidmann> kory_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-366709.html
[01:14] <bigdad1e> !k3b|hendaus
[01:14] <ubotu> hendaus: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[01:14] <kory_> dwidmann: thank you
[01:15] <maki> how to install the pakages i removed with autoremove in feasty
[01:15] <hendaus> bigdad1e,  can u please tell me how to make a dvd film "?
[01:15] <bigdad1e> hendaus: sry i wish i could stay and help u more but its time for the gym. if u need more help bigdad1e is my msn ill b back in 3 or 4 hours
[01:16] <BluesKaj> are the files actually mpeg or avi , hendaus?
[01:16] <BluesKaj> what is the file extension?
[01:16] <Chetwin> jhutchins: rude
[01:16] <hendaus> BluesKaj,  they are .avi
[01:16] <bigdad1e> hendaus: convert to xvid and that will work perfect
[01:16] <bigdad1e> hendaus: should just burn and that will work
[01:16] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to add cups protocol to kmyfirewall?? anyone??
[01:17] <hendaus> bigdad1e,  bye
[01:17] <kakarotto> mmm question!, how i can make a format whith a program in linux?
[01:17] <kory_> oh, duh, inode
[01:17] <kakarotto> i dont know if i did say fine
[01:18] <hendaus> BluesKaj,  the file are .avi but i convert them by the avidemux
[01:19] <dwidmann> Well, if its conversions that need done, ffmpeg is almost infinitely capable :)
[01:20] <dwidmann> transcode is a nice converter program ......
[01:20] <dwidmann> pain in the butt to use, but nice
[01:22] <Number2> hello what folder is firefox kept in?
[01:24] <dwidmann> Probably /usr/lib/firefox
[01:24] <Number2> thanks
[01:26] <EzInKy> Hello. I'm trying to help a friend with Kubuntu...he can't sudo from konsole but can run synaptic. Any ideas?
[01:26] <dwidmann> EzInKy: Think his sudoers.conf file might have been hosed?
[01:26] <jhutchins> EzInKy: Easier if you tell us what _does_ happen than what doesn't.
[01:27] <dwidmann> EzInKy: just have him reboot in recovery mode, and run "visudo"
[01:27] <EzInKy> Perhaps...he installed twice. Adept and Synaptic run...but nothing from konsole.
[01:28] <EzInKy> I was thinking that would be the answer...I told him to use Kubuntu because he is new to Linux.
[01:29] <dwidmann> So long as there's a line like: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL in there ...... it should be okay
[01:31] <maki> some feisty user here
[01:31] <Cicci0> hi
[01:31] <EzInKy> Okay...I don't have access to his machine so I'll be sure to type the directions clearly B-)
[01:31] <EzInKy> Thanks for the help.
[01:36] <jhutchins> iirc it's possible to hose sudo by entering the wrong password too many times in a row.
[01:36] <Number2> hello  how where do i put downloaded themes for global use?
[01:36] <Jededia> can someone tell me how to check my video card using the terminal
[01:36] <Number2> what do you mean by check
[01:36] <Jededia> like a command to tell me what it is
[01:36] <Number2> lspci -x
[01:36] <Number2> i think that should work
[01:36] <jhutchins> !themes | Number2
[01:36] <ubotu> Number2: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:36] <Jededia> ok let me check
[01:36] <Number2> thanks
[01:36] <jhutchins> lspci without the -x will probably be more useful.
[01:36] <Jededia> thanx
[01:37] <Number2> hrmm, thanks j i thought i was in Xububtu
[01:38] <epimeth> ahoy folks!
[01:39] <Number2> mmmm cookie
[01:40] <epimeth> can I get one?
[01:40] <epimeth> pretty please
[01:45] <epimeth> for anyone who cares... beryl worked on the laptop with absolutely no configuration!!! WOOT
[01:45] <epimeth> after the desktop nightmare, that was an incredibly good feeling
[01:47] <Alonea> ok, I am trying to compile a program and it says it needs Ruby, headers included, I have the rubt libraries, but I dont think I have the headers, what are the package names supposed to be?
[01:47] <Alonea> *ruby
[01:48] <epimeth> not sure... but lets try this:
[01:48] <epimeth> !ruby
[01:48] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[01:48] <epimeth> hmm
[01:49] <epimeth> the package is probably just ruby
[01:49] <epimeth> you might need to add the ruby headers to your path, or move them to your program's path
[01:50] <BartSimpson> I have this problem with executing scripts in bash: I own the file, I have execute, write, and read rights on it, it is +x, but i still get this error: "bash: ./myscript: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[01:50] <epimeth> whats the first few lines of your script?
[01:50] <c0nv1ct> BartSimpson: paste your script to a pastebin if ya can
[01:51] <BartSimpson> sure
[01:51] <kakarotto> claudio tay?
[01:52] <Alonea> epimeth: i dunno. its so hard sometimes installing pkgs for stuff when you dont know the exact names. trying to compile amarok because the repo one is effed up totally
[01:52] <Jucato> Alonea: install either ruby1.8-dev or ruby1.9-dev (depending on whether ruby1.8 or ruby1.9 is installed)
[01:52] <sidcrow> ke paa
[01:52] <sidcrow> ke pa kakarotto
[01:52] <BartSimpson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11273/
[01:53] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: the official amarok repo?
[01:53] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: yeah, the people #amarok can't figure out whats wrong with mine and said to compile with full debug.
[01:54] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: its actually the one that came preinstalled on my system
[01:54] <rooob> where can i find out info about cron.daily? i just realised alot of my backup scripts have not been running.. and i would like to fistly get email notification from scripts palced in there..  but additionally i would like to know what is reponsible for running the scripts in there, and what requirements they must meet
[01:54] <rooob> i know about crontab -e but i dont know how that relates to cron.daily
[01:56] <me2win> !samba
[01:56] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:57] <epimeth> tho i've never actually got swat to work :-)
[01:59] <kroudy> can someone help me? i am trying to customize my k menu menu button and i cant seem to find where to do it at
[01:59] <epimeth> BartSimpson: your script works fine for me :-(
[01:59] <Alonea> ok, I am compiling another program (rockbox) and it keeps saying arm-elf-gcc not found, not in your path, even though it IS in my path and is definately installed. I used the path their shell script thingie asked for (it sets up the cross-compiler and everything) the people in #rockbox are stumped.
[01:59] <epimeth> kroudy: right click K -> Menu Editor
[01:59] <Jucato> kroudy:  <apt> Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx
[02:00] <Jucato> epimeth: that will customize the menu, not the K Menu button
[02:00] <Jucato> :)
[02:00] <epimeth> oh... lol
[02:00] <BartSimpson> epimeth: yeah, i dont think it's the script. this also happened with another binary file i tried to run...
[02:00] <epimeth> sorry kroudy, I misread your question
[02:00] <kroudy> its ok thank you
[02:00] <epimeth> BartSimpson: what happens when you run bash... no arguments, no nothing
[02:01] <epimeth> $bash
[02:01] <BartSimpson> the binary file was created by a configure script, which ran fine, which then tried to run the newly created bin but couldnt
[02:01] <Number2> what are the chmod option to allo everyone to do everything?
[02:02] <BartSimpson> epimeth: it just creates a new bash session within my current one
[02:02] <epimeth> BartSimpson: so thats not the problem.... hmmm
[02:02] <Jucato> Number2: chmod +rwx I think
[02:02] <Number2> thanks
[02:02] <Jucato> Number2: that will set rwx for user (owner), group, and others
[02:02] <Jucato> or rather chmod a+rwx
[02:03] <Number2> ok
[02:03] <BartSimpson> epimeth: i think it has something to do with it being created on my computer. the configure script ran fine because i just took it out of an archive, but since the binary it tried to run was created by itself, it wouldnt work
[02:03] <luckyone_> does kubuntu use gdm or kdm?
[02:03] <Jucato> kdm
[02:04] <luckyone_> I just upgraded my server from xubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <luckyone_> it isn't starting correctly...
[02:04] <epimeth> BartSimpson: what happens when you try to run $bash ./myscript
[02:04] <epimeth> ?
[02:05] <luckyone_> I logged into from this laptop and removed xubuntu-desktop and autoremoved everything else...
[02:05] <BartSimpson> epimeth: same thing, "bash: ./myscript: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[02:05] <Alonea> oh, my battery thing in the taskbar has dissapeared and its NOT listed in the applets
[02:06] <epimeth> BartSimpson: silly question, I know, but you *sure* you have +x ?
[02:06] <Jucato> BartSimpson: the script has +x for everything?
[02:06] <BartSimpson> Jucato: yep i set directly chmod +x myscript, and confirmed it in konqueror
[02:07] <kroudy> ok well i made my own custom button to match my desktop and i couldnt get it installed i moved it to the /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/apps/ and it overided and now the kde icon is different everywhere else except for the k menu menu button
[02:07] <Jucato> BartSimpson: so it's rwxr-xr-x or something like that?
[02:07] <epimeth> check your fxtab... sure you have the exec option for the partition you are using?
[02:07] <epimeth> BartSimpson:  ^
[02:07] <epimeth> BartSimpson: fstab, not fxtab... heh
[02:07] <BartSimpson> hmm Jucato: yep, and epimeth: i think you have something there, i have my /home on a seperate partition and i dont think i have exec option
[02:08] <Number2> Jucato any odea on how to change the permissions of all the contents under a directory?
[02:08] <Jucato> hm...
[02:08] <epimeth> w00t! epimeth: 1, jucato: ...... 999999999<E>999
[02:08] <Jucato> Number2: you can do it in Konqueror or chmod -R
[02:08] <Jucato> O.o
[02:09] <kroudy> can anyone help :-)
[02:10] <epimeth> hmmmm... while the transparency thing in beryl is cute, it doesn't really *do* anything, eh?
[02:10] <Jucato> kroudy: that depends on the size of your panel. different panel sizes use different kmenu.png icon sizes
[02:10] <Jucato> epimeth: it does some technical opmitizations to window rendering if that counts
[02:11] <BartSimpson> yep i had copied it directly from the ubuntu page which said /dev/hdb3 /home ext3 nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0, so i changed that noexec to exec... now is there a way to refresh the filesystem without restarting>
[02:11] <epimeth> actually, yea... I noticed that things look a bit different
[02:11] <epimeth> BartSimpson: probably..... but you should log out of your user first
[02:12] <BartSimpson> hmm
[02:12] <epimeth> but if you're already logging out, might as well restart
[02:12] <BartSimpson> ok
[02:12] <Jucato> since it involves your /home...
[02:12] <Alonea> oh, my battery thing in the taskbar has dissapeared and its NOT listed in the add applet to panel
[02:12] <BartSimpson> thank you all for the help
[02:12] <epimeth> BartSimpson: no worries
[02:13] <Jucato> Alonea: try to run "guidance-power-manager"
[02:13] <epimeth> anybody using beryl?  I wanna know if there's a general problem with the settings manager or if its just BOTH of my boxes
[02:14] <Alonea> Jucato: it claims this isn't a laptop...wtf?
[02:14] <Jucato> oh... that's beyond my knowledge now..
[02:15] <Jucato> er.. rather "doesn't have"
[02:15] <epimeth> lol
[02:15] <Alonea> well, my computer looks like a laptop to me. *lifts it in air and stares at bottom* yup. appears to be a laptop to me, but apparently my computer knows better than I
[02:18] <epimeth> Alonea: edgy?
[02:18] <Alonea> epimeth: yeah
[02:18] <Alonea> epimeth: and it was there...
[02:20] <cyanid3> I acccidentally did a recursive chmod -R 444 . in the root directory....  Is there a way to fix this?
[02:20] <cyanid3> I mean744
[02:21] <cyanid3> i can't access any of the binaries (sudo, chmod, ls...) anyone ever made this mistake?
[02:22] <Hirvinen> Heh.
[02:22] <Hirvinen> Boot from a live cd and then mount that drive and fix the permissions from there
[02:23] <epimeth> cyanid3: sure... and I never did again
[02:23] <epimeth> cyanid3: good luck :-)
[02:24] <Hirvinen> cyanid3: Or back up and do a fresh install. Some of those permissions may be crucial for system security, and getting all of them right is an untrivial task.
[02:25] <intelikey> perms where ?
[02:25] <Jucato> intelikey: <cyanid3> I acccidentally did a recursive chmod -R 444 . in the root directory....  Is there a way to fix this?
[02:25] <Hirvinen> cyanid3: Actually, you may want to try and see if reinstalling all packages would return those permissions to their original states.
[02:26] <intelikey> short answer is no.
[02:30] <epimeth> Alonea: I've been googling... not helpful... I *did* however browse the script...
[02:30] <intelikey> long answer is "if you can boot a live CD and have the information of the perms on each inode it can be done.   however doing so is as hirvinen said an untrivial task"
[02:30] <epimeth> Alonea: seems like it considers anything with a primary battery to be a laptop
[02:30] <epimeth> Alonea: I *really* don't know how to go around checking if you do /why you don't /how you fix it
[02:30] <epimeth> intelikey: I guess it would be possible to create a perl script to do it...
[02:30] <Alonea> epimeth: ok, well, this isn't the first time I have had this system and when I redid it recently the battery icon was there and then suddenly it dissapeared and never came back, so it did work at some point...@@
[02:30] <epimeth> intelikey: and it would probably be pretty short, too
[02:31] <epimeth> intelikey: in fact, a simple "find" command might do it as well
[02:31] <cyanid3> so maybe an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:31] <cyanid3> i dont know
[02:31] <intelikey> yes or shell script.  but having the listed perms is the issue.
[02:31] <cyanid3> we'll see i guess
[02:31] <cyanid3> i just got done looking at it
[02:31] <cyanid3> it's not worth it
[02:31] <epimeth> cyanid3: like was said, a live disk
[02:32] <epimeth> cyanid3: that wasn't for you ^, it was for intelikey
[02:32] <cyanid3> i booted into single user grub mode and I'm just going to scp things over to another box
[02:32] <epimeth> cyanid3: at least you didn't $rm -r *
[02:32] <cyanid3> haha
[02:32] <cyanid3> that's true
[02:32] <epimeth> cyanid3: learn for next time
[02:33] <epimeth> I can't tell you how many times I went $rm -r *
[02:33] <cyanid3> yeah, i've been using linux for around 6 years and i heard stories all the time
[02:33] <epimeth> OH WAIT!
[02:33] <intelikey> epimeth might as well have.  now he has unusable files and dirs....
[02:33] <epimeth> What directory was I in again?
[02:33] <cyanid3> i just never figured i'd actually do it
[02:33] <epimeth> :-)
[02:33] <cyanid3> lack of sleep + being in a hurry is not a good combo
[02:33] <cyanid3> take it easy all
[02:33] <epimeth> intelikey: yea, but at least his files are still there...
[02:33] <epimeth> you too!
[02:34] <epimeth> intelikey: you on beryl?
[02:34] <intelikey> epimeth no
[02:34] <intelikey> epimeth "files still being there" would only be a plus on things stored in ~
[02:37] <epimeth> intelikey: yea... thats what I meant
[02:37] <epimeth> was the "no" about beryl?
[02:37] <intelikey> yes the no was about beryl
[02:37] <epimeth> :-(
[02:37] <epimeth> dunno why the settings won't open....
[02:38] <epimeth> how about locales, know anything about them?
[02:39] <intelikey> that must have been a bad one. they are air lifting the victom
[02:39] <epimeth> ?
[02:39] <intelikey> epimeth i know that libc6 depands on the package locales    and i wish it didn't.
[02:40] <epimeth> and what was that about a victim?
[02:40] <epimeth> why do you wish it didn't?
[02:41] <intelikey> victom. local insodent.   why. cause they update the package seems like often and i don't even use it per'se so it eats band narrowness.
[02:46] <epimeth> "per se" hehe....
[02:46] <epimeth> "wait a second!  nothing works anymore!  damn you libc6!!!!"
[02:46] <epimeth> :-p
[02:46] <intelikey> you like  pur say.
[02:46] <intelikey> ?  :)
[02:46] <Hrontore> Has any one here gotten Cs or steam to work on Kubuntu
[02:46] <Hrontore> ?
[02:46] <epimeth> I don't even know what those are.... sorry
[02:46] <Hrontore> counter strike
[02:46] <Hrontore> guess not
[02:46] <epimeth> I know people have
[02:46] <Hrontore> where are the forums for kubuntu?
[02:46] <podecre> do anybody knows a good package for kubuntu 6.06???
[02:46] <epimeth> podecre: what do you mean?
[02:46] <intelikey> epimeth i was talking about locales not libc6 that i don't use.   lang is set to C  so locales is moot.
[02:46] <epimeth> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:46] <epimeth> intelikey: just laugh, damn you!!!!
[02:46] <Slynderdale> On ubuntu edgy, you can use sudo apt-get install kubuntu to install the Unbuntu KDE interface and programs?
[02:46] <epimeth> http://www.kubuntuforums.net
[02:46] <epimeth> intelikey: no... this would be cursing you:
[02:46] <intelikey> Slynderdale kubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <Alonea> well, this is interestint, when I do acpi-b I get No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path ("/proc/acpi").
[02:47] <Alonea> could this be why my battery thing isn't working?
[02:48] <epimeth> Alonea: I haven't a clue... sorry
[02:48] <epimeth> Alonea: probably... I just $acpi
[02:48] <epimeth> Alonea: and got a message saying 100% battery
[02:48] <Hirvinen> intelikey: Well, having the files in /etc is a big plus as well.
[02:49] <Alonea> epimeth: apparently I dont have it.
[02:49] <epimeth> !acpi
[02:49] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[02:49] <epimeth> try installing it!
[02:49] <podecre> epimeth: I'm trying to download some programs and I can't because of the packages I hve here
[02:49] <intelikey> Hirvinen only for referances not for use.
[02:50] <epimeth> podecre: what programs?
[02:51] <intelikey> Hirvinen lots of them require special perms.   as far as use is concerned the ones in /bin /sbin are more usefull now.  just chmod 755 the files and dirs and they will work for the most part.
[02:51] <podecre> epimeth: amsn, beryl
[02:52] <Hirvinen> intelikey: Of course, but having the contents is the important part.
[02:52] <epimeth> podecre: and what happens when you try to install amsn?
[02:52] <beta> !flash
[02:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:52] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:52] <intelikey> depending on how "non-default" it is.
[02:52] <Hirvinen> ... when reinstalling the system.
[02:53] <epimeth> speaking of backports.... what *are* they???
[02:53] <podecre> epimeth: shows that the program is broken
[02:53] <Hirvinen> intelikey: Well, if one reinstalls the same software then what problems would the use of same config files cause, assuming versions don't change.
[02:53] <intelikey> things released after the os but ported to work on it.
[02:53] <Hirvinen> !backports | epimeth
[02:53] <ubotu> epimeth: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:54] <epimeth> podecre: how?  what, exactly, happens when you try to install amsn?
[02:54] <intelikey> Hirvinen permissions.   configs have perms too.
[02:54] <podecre> epimeth: wait a minute I'm busy
[02:55] <Hirvinen> intelikey: Yes, but I was talking about the importance of having their contents that can be then moved to the reinstalled files that have the correct permissions.
[02:55] <epimeth> ohmygod.... I'm totally enabling backports... it sounded scary so I left it commented out :-)
[02:56] <intelikey> Hirvinen and so was i.   see above ^
[02:56] <Alonea> ok, how do I edit the kernel in kubuntu?
[02:56] <epimeth> podecre: kay....
[02:56] <Jucato> epimeth: it's the only way to get Flash 9 and Sun Java 6 on Edgy (from the repos at at least)
[02:57] <intelikey> Alonea ?
[02:57] <epimeth> Alonea: the same way you edit it in any linux distro!
[02:57] <epimeth> Alonea: as in... you probably don't want to :-)
[02:57] <Alonea> epimeth: ok, need to look up how again, I forgot how...
[02:57] <BluesKaj> or shouldn't :)
[02:58] <Alonea> intelikey: i dont have acpi or apm support....
[02:58] <intelikey> modprobe
[02:58] <intelikey> don't reinvent the wheel   just drive the car.
[02:58] <Alonea> intelikey: I dont have a battery status thing anymore and that one guidance thing says I dont have a laptop
[02:58] <Alonea> intelikey: modprobe what?
[02:59] <intelikey> acpi-cpufreq  acpi_sbs      acpiphp       acpiphp_ibm
[02:59] <epimeth> but damnit, this car is like, 20 years old!
[02:59] <intelikey> ?
[02:59] <intelikey> modprobe apm
[02:59] <Alonea> intelikey: FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): Device or resource busy
[03:00] <Alonea> intelikey: FATAL: Module acpi_sbs not found.
[03:00] <Alonea> intelikey: FATAL: Error inserting acpiphp (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug/acpiphp.ko): Operation not permitted  (i did sudo all of these_
[03:01] <Alonea> intelikey: FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:01] <Trickser> hi, the adept updater becomes stalled "Waiting for headers 99%" after trying to retrieve the list of software packages... What could be the problem?
[03:01] <Justinalf> hmm, are all your repositories in order
[03:02] <Justinalf> if you have a broken link it could lag
[03:02] <Trickser> I must press "Cancel download" and then I get the list, but i am not sure about the problem
[03:02] <Justinalf> did you add anything to the repos?
[03:02] <Justinalf> i had this same problem whenever I added Beryl to my repos
[03:03] <Alonea> intelikey: thats why I wanted to check the settings in the kernel and see if its enabled or not..
[03:03] <Trickser> i changed the repository some months ago, but it worked well
[03:03] <Justinalf> hmm
[03:04] <intelikey> Alonea you never asked about "checking" you asked about "changing" them.   less /boot/config-[tab] 
[03:04] <Alonea> intelikey: well,I was certainly going to change if they were not
[03:04] <Justinalf> how long does this go on for?
[03:04] <podecre> epimeth: Sorry I was talking to my girlfriend hehe
[03:04] <intelikey> Alonea not there you wont.
[03:04] <Trickser> actually i updated it based on a ubuntu wiki
[03:05] <intelikey> Alonea only way to change that is compile from source
[03:05] <Trickser> but I think maybe this repository could be problematic: http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf
[03:05] <Justinalf> try removing it then updating
[03:05] <epimeth> podecre: "busy", eh?  "talking", eh?  is that what you kids call it these days?
[03:05] <Alonea> intelikey: okay, and I did that on slack..and i did once somehow a long time ago when I needed to add hardware to the list for something.
[03:06] <Jucato> Trickser: PLF isn't working for Edgy. so might as well disable that repository
[03:06] <Alonea> intelikey: except for i didn't have to download the kernel source or anything..at least I dont remember doing that ever
[03:06] <podecre> epimeth: I was at the telephone ^
[03:06] <Alonea> intelikey: except for when I did it on slack
[03:06] <Justinalf> I'd try that
[03:06] <intelikey> so if you are set on doing that (i still don't think you want or need to) either go to http://www.kernel.org and dl the source or use   the packagemanager of your choice and install a linux-source  and get to building.
[03:07] <Trickser> jucato: yes, thanks, it was the problem ;-)
[03:07] <epimeth> podecre: yea, yea...
[03:07] <podecre> epimeth:
[03:07] <Trickser> Justinalf: thanks
[03:07] <podecre> epimeth: heheh
[03:07] <Justinalf> no problem
[03:07] <intelikey> Jucato is it the whole plf or only edgy ?
[03:08] <Jucato> I think Edgy only
[03:08] <intelikey> k
[03:08] <podecre> epimeth: I'm beginner at Linux and I'm trying to download amsn but the download never finishes
[03:08] <Jucato> I'm not sure if they'll be supporting Feisty too
[03:08] <intelikey> k
[03:08] <epimeth> podecre: how are you trying to install it, what, *exactly* are you doing?
[03:09] <Alonea> intelikey: ok, according to make xconfig thing its on...I am lost as to why it wont see my computer as a laptop and why it wont work
[03:09] <podecre> epimeth: sudo apt-get install amsn
[03:09] <intelikey> Alonea me too but i told you it was there in the default kernels
[03:10] <Alonea> intelikey: well APM isn't.
[03:10] <intelikey> Alonea how old is that lappy ?
[03:10] <epimeth> podecre: and what happens when you do this
[03:10] <Alonea> intelikey: a year and 3 days
[03:10] <intelikey> does it have apm rather than acpi ?
[03:10] <intelikey> oh well not likely then.
[03:10] <Trickser> an other question, is it possible to easily view the change log of a package without diggint out in launchpad or something like that?
[03:11] <intelikey> and i think they depreciated apm
[03:11] <smeyer> can someone help me out with sound problem that i am haveing plz
[03:11] <Alonea> intelikey: have no idea, but maybe apm would work?
[03:11] <intelikey> cause anything above an 80486 has acpi
[03:11] <podecre> epimeth: a lot of texts starts to pass in my windows and when it stopps I receive a message like E: Broken packages
[03:11] <Alonea> intelikey: well, it doesnt say deprecated anywhere on here
[03:12] <podecre> epimeth: my system is in portuguese so I don't know if this message is the same that the message in English
[03:12] <ffffu> hi
[03:13] <epimeth> podecre: what sources are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:13] <podecre> br-archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[03:14] <intelikey> Alonea maybe it would work.   but acpi "should"   you may need different chipset support inserved.   that can cause odd problems.   might build an initramfs.img without the chipset that is now in use and see what it comes up with...   if it wont boot you can use the one you are using now...  (assuming you use a unique name)
[03:14] <intelikey> inserved/inserted   even.
[03:14] <Alonea> intelikey: ok, that confuses me. all I know is that it used to work the last time I had kubuntu (had to reformat and reinstall) and it worked at first on here. not sure when it stopped.
[03:15] <epimeth> podecre: have you tried manually downloading one of the packages?
[03:15] <intelikey> sounds like the initramfs.img to me Alonea
[03:15] <intelikey> Alonea man mkinitramfs
[03:16] <podecre> epimeth: no I didn't
[03:16] <Alonea> intelikey: oh, forgot to say that there isn't an acpi folder/file in /proc
[03:17] <intelikey> i say if you do an   lsmod > list1     boot the old image and do   lsmod > list2   ;diff list1 list2    you will see the answer.
[03:17] <intelikey> Alonea ^
[03:17] <Alonea> intelikey: its in /etc and /usr/share/doc though
[03:18] <Alonea> and usr/src/linux-headers...
[03:18] <epimeth> podecre: what version of ubuntu you using?  edgy?
[03:18] <podecre> epimeth: I only know that is Kubuntu 6.06
[03:19] <epimeth> podecre: okay
[03:20] <intelikey> Alonea /exec -o cat /proc/cmdline
[03:20] <epimeth> podecre: 6.06 = dapper
[03:20] <yvette> I'm trying to set up KMail to use KWallet, but not having any luck. Any ideas?
[03:20] <podecre> epimeth: hummmm I saw it somewhere hehehe
[03:20] <intelikey> in here Alonea
[03:20] <Alonea> intelikey: ok, exec isnt a file or directory
[03:21] <intelikey> in here
[03:21] <Alonea> intelikey: in irc? says exec unknown command
[03:21] <podecre> epimeth: what's the difference between edgy and dapper?
[03:21] <intelikey> yes
[03:21] <intelikey> ok
[03:22] <mervteck> anyone here any good with Cedega?
[03:22] <intelikey> most irc clients can be used as a shell interface... yours doesn't see to do that.
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> !cedega
[03:22] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:22] <intelikey> Alonea in a shell then      cat /proc/cmdline
[03:22] <Alonea> intelikey: I am using chatzilla. only one that I really like so far
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> mervteck, you'll probably want #cedega
[03:23] <mervteck> they never answer =\
[03:23] <mervteck> there more dead then the wine channel and the wine channel is a bunch of dicks, excuse my language
[03:23] <Ash-Fox> You just called me something :(
[03:26] <intelikey> net split      YAY !
[03:26] <epimeth> mass exodus!!!!
[03:27] <epimeth> damn... people got offended :-)
[03:27] <intelikey> !language
[03:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:27] <intelikey> bot is still here
[03:28] <Tm_T> hmm, I wonder what server did drop off
[03:28] <Alonea> intelikey: root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash acpi=off noapic nolapic  (btw, the noacpic and stuff is there because I cannot shut down my computer due to the binary drivers for my video card. since that doesn't work either, i can take that off of there.
[03:28] <Alonea> intelikey: ok, I put my boot how it was. any ideas on how to fix my shutdown? half the time not even shutdown -h now works.
[03:28] <yvette> kwallet question? Someone? (other than a bot)?
[03:28] <epimeth> yvette: what is it?
[03:28] <Tm_T> yvette: you haven't asked the question yet?
[03:28] <intelikey> :)
[03:29] <Tm_T> oh you have, my bad
[03:29] <yvette> argh ... can;t type...
[03:29] <yvette> i'm trying to get my wife's email working (she's yvette, not me).
[03:29] <Tm_T> yvette: it didn't ask it at first time?
[03:29] <yvette> i moved from pclos to kubuntu 6.10
[03:30] <intelikey> Alonea can't get acpi to work,     wonder why ?    "root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash acpi=off noapic nolapic (btw, the noacpic and stuff is there because I cannot shut down my computer due to the binary drivers for my video card.           he he he ...
[03:30] <yvette> it did, but i didn't set it (didn't want to wake her at 4:00am to ask her password).
[03:30] <yvette> now i can't figure how to get it to use kwallet.
[03:30] <Tm_T> yvette: awww, and if you readd account?
[03:30] <epimeth> intelikey: not nice making fun of ppl who aren't here
[03:30] <epimeth> :-p
[03:31] <beta> !nvidia
[03:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:31] <yvette> it asks for the password, as usual.
[03:31] <yvette> email works, i just don't know how to get it to use kwallet again.
[03:31] <intelikey> epimeth not my fault he exited as soon as he posted...
[03:31] <Tm_T> yvette: well, iirc it asks it only when adding account, but don't know really :)
[03:32] <yvette> i tried removing the old account and starting a new one, but that didn't help.
[03:32] <epimeth> intelikey: lol
[03:32] <yvette> (Both Send and Receive)
[03:32] <Tm_T> yvette: hmm, too harsh to remove all kmail settings?
[03:32] <yvette> Which settings? I don't want to lose all her email folders, lots of stuff there.
[03:33] <intelikey> epimeth i assure you i would have posted the same </snickering> remark had he been here...  :)
[03:33] <yvette> I tried looking at the kontactrc file, didn't see any clues in there.
[03:33] <yvette> i fiddled with kwalletrc, no luck there, either.
[03:33] <barros> hi.. probably this was already answered, but, when will feisty be released?
[03:33] <Tm_T> yvette: hmm hmm
[03:34] <Tm_T> yvette: open kwalletmanager
[03:34] <Jucato> barros: April 20+
[03:34] <yvette> it;s open
[03:34] <Jucato> !feisty > barros
[03:34] <Tm_T> yvette: and access control doesn't give solution?
[03:34] <verbose> is there a list of apt repositories somewhere
[03:35] <yvette> 'access control'? What setting is that?
[03:35] <barros> Jucato: thanks.. I think I'll wait it.. I want to reinstall my system..
[03:35] <yvette> oops... let me look...
[03:35] <Tm_T> verbose: almost like asking "is there list of internet sites somewhere?" if you don't define what kind of repostitories you need
[03:35] <Tm_T> yvette: in kwalletmanager
[03:35] <Jucato> barros: Feisty is entering beta this weekend
[03:35] <yvette> kmail and kontact are 'always allow', don't see any way to change that.
[03:36] <yvette> (other than delete)
[03:36] <intelikey> !repos | verbose
[03:36] <ubotu> verbose: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:36] <Alonea> wierd..irc took ages to load
[03:36] <Tm_T> yvette: hmm, interesting, try #kde ?
[03:37] <yvette> ok, thanks.
[03:37] <yvette> -oo-
[03:37] <intelikey> repost for Alonea's sake, alonea can't get acpi to work,     wonder why ?    "root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash acpi=off noapic nolapic (btw, the noacpic and stuff is there because I cannot shut down my computer due to the binary drivers for my video card.           he he he ...
[03:37] <Alonea> intelikey: hush...*pouts* any ideas though on shutdown?
[03:38] <epimeth> podecre: http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/amsn/amsn_0.95-1_i386.deb
[03:38] <intelikey> Alonea have you tried init 0   in place of using the halt commands dirrectly ?
[03:38] <Alonea> intelikey: er, what do you mean?
[03:38] <intelikey> sudo init 9
[03:39] <intelikey> ooops
[03:39] <intelikey> sudo init 0
[03:39] <podecre> epimeth thanks!
[03:39] <epimeth> how about 6?  anybody tried init 6? >:-)
[03:39] <epimeth> podecre: not saying it'll work :-)
[03:39] <epimeth> podecre: try it tho....
[03:39] <intelikey> that's reboot epimeth
[03:40] <epimeth> intelikey: what I meant is did anybody try setting their auto init to that.... :-(
[03:40] <intelikey> yes i have.  i have ran in runlevel 6 on this box
[03:41] <podecre> epimeth: thanks a lot I have to go now!
[03:41] <intelikey> i have setup 12 runlevels and i have setup 2 runlevels.  run was 0 and reboot was 1    heh
[03:41] <epimeth> podecre: adios
[03:42] <podecre> epimeth: In Brazil we say Tchau! hehehe
[03:42] <epimeth> *that* is for being smart
[03:42] <epimeth> epimeth: in argentina we say adios!
[03:42] <Tm_T> not me
[03:42] <Alonea> intelikey: ok, that worked. completely shut down. changed my little homemade button to that command instead.
[03:43] <epimeth> it's him!
[03:43] <intelikey> Alonea anything else ?
[03:43] <danzi> crimsun: Hello
[03:44] <epimeth> who's crimsun?
[03:44] <Alonea> intelikey: well, other than my rockbox wont compile and rockboxdev.sh is telling me stranger things its ok, though I do wish my regular shutdown buttons worked.
[03:44] <intelikey> /whois crimsun
[03:45] <intelikey> Alonea you installed  "build-essential" ?
[03:45] <intelikey> don't compile without it....
[03:48] <Skreech> !sound
[03:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:49] <epimeth> is there any point in dling herd 5?  beta is coming out this weekend, right?
[03:49] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: thursday yes
[03:50] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: sir, thank you, sir, admiral, sir!
[03:50] <owner> amaroK shuffels throught my playlist very fast for some reason, anyone know why that is?
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> lol
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> owner: can't play the files
[03:50] <Skreech> owner: MP3s?
[03:50] <owner> ya, MP3
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> do you have libxine-extracodecs installed
[03:51] <owner> i'll check,, i think so
[03:51] <intelikey> owner two normal caused   format not supported   and output device not writable (wrong device)
[03:51] <intelikey> causes   ^
[03:51] <Skreech> owner: You would know if you installed it :)
[03:52] <intelikey> !mp3 > owner
[03:53] <owner> ya
[03:53] <owner> libxine....not in adept manager
[03:53] <Skreech> owner: read what ubotu just pmed to you
[03:54] <owner> i have read those 3 links before
[03:54] <Alonea> intelikey: oh, and where is that file that has the paths in it?
 intelikey: oh, and where is that file that has the paths in it?
[03:55] <intelikey> -:- SignOff Alonea: #kubuntu (Remote closed the connection)
[03:55] <intelikey> how are you supposed to answer that  ?
[03:55] <MikeC2> Heya, for somereason my apt-get base system is acting all wierd, It wont install anything
[03:55] <Skreech> owner: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/soureces.list
[03:56] <intelikey> MikeC2 can you pastebin your /etc/apt/soureces.list
[03:56] <owner> give me a sec...this is only a 500mgz CPU
[03:56] <intelikey> lot faster than mine.
[03:56] <intelikey> 100mhz
[03:56] <Alonea_> intelikey: ok, my irc has gone screwy...if you have said anything to me after you asked anything else, I never got it
[03:57] <intelikey> Alonea_ only said how do i answer when you ask and leave...
[03:58] <MikeC2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11290/
[03:58] <Alonea_> intelikey: ok, wierd. I never actually left...actually it says that "alonea" is already taken...
[03:58] <owner> xfmedia can play the songs....just amaroK cannot and neither can Kaffeine
[03:58] <intelikey> Alonea_ there are three files.   /etc/environment   the main system wide path can be in there     /etc/profile   the system wide shell path should be in there.   and  ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_bashrc   the user specific path should be in there.
[03:59] <Skreech> !paste
[03:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:59] <intelikey> one can make and use    ~/.profile     also...
[03:59] <Alonea_> intelikey: also it seems my posts after that never made it here either
[03:59] <intelikey> i know i said three and named five  but you only have three of them.
[03:59] <Alonea_> intelikey: nm on that.
[04:00] <Alonea_> ok, after I did rockboxdev.sh, this is what it reported. Is this abnormal any? it seems different from the last time i did it. http://pastebin.ca/404493
[04:00] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: you forgot ~/.bash_profile :P
[04:00] <Alonea_> intelikey: dunno if this will make any sense to you since I dont think you have rockbox, but this is what it said at the end, http://pastebin.ca/404493.
[04:00] <Alonea_> intelikey: those were things I had said...
[04:00] <Alonea_> intelikey: I refigured out the path thing.
[04:00] <MikeC2> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11290/ it just locks up while waiting for headers
[04:00] <intelikey> c0nv1ct while a path can be set there it is more app specific than all the others.
[04:01] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: its user-specific really
[04:01] <intelikey> yes and only bash login shells will read it
[04:01] <intelikey> iirc
[04:01] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: yeah, hence the "bash" in bash_profile
[04:02] <seth> does anyone know how to share an NTFS partition with samba?
[04:02] <intelikey> but not any bash.  bash logins
[04:02] <Ick> in leeenux?
[04:02] <seth> yep
[04:02] <epimeth> seth: you don't share partitions, you share folders
[04:02] <epimeth> seth: just mount the partiton and add its info to samba
[04:02] <seth> let me rephrase
[04:02] <c0nv1ct> seth: and you would share that folder with samba like any other on your system
[04:04] <seth> I have a usb drive formated ntfs and mounted using ntfs-3g, there is a folder in it i would like to share, I have samba installed and it can share any folder not on this drive however with this drive i receive an error when trying to share a folder on it
[04:04] <intelikey> Alonea_ makes perfect sense to me.     you want to add     PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin"    to one of the files that will be read in by all apps.    /etc/profile   would be a good choice.
[04:04] <seth> the error is as follows: An error occurred while trying to share folder '/home/seth/portable/Media'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root.
[04:05] <Alonea_> intelikey: thats the bad thing though...I have done the path and it still wont work
[04:06] <intelikey> Alonea_ i would never add such a convoluted path...  i'd make symlinks in /usr/local/bin   to what ever is in those dirs.         that's only read on login   not mid session....
[04:06] <bkudria> i'm using (k)networkmanager, but it doesn'y show my wireless device (i have a broadcom card that i must use ndiswrapper with, it creates eth1). i can use my wireless device fine (scanning with wlassistant) but network manager does not detect it...why?
[04:06] <seth> anyone know of samba having an issues sharing from ntfs partitions?
[04:06] <intelikey> Alonea_ symlinks will work without reloging in
[04:07] <intelikey> using linux to share a windows fs with windows boxes.... what will they think of next...
[04:07] <laptop> How do I get embedded video working in my Firefox??? esp. embedded wmv
[04:08] <intelikey> !mp3 | laptop
[04:08] <ubotu> laptop: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:08] <Jucato> laptop: install "mozilla-mplayer"
[04:08] <laptop> in syanptic?
[04:08] <intelikey> yes
[04:09] <Alonea_> intelikey: well, I never had to do i t before...it was just, export path that and thats it
[04:09] <seth> well
[04:09] <MikeC2> are the repos down or something?
[04:09] <seth> i have the usb drive formated ntfs for using it between multiple pcs running linux and windows
[04:10] <seth> now i want to simply share a folder on my machine with a vm i have running
[04:10] <intelikey> Alonea_ i didn't say it wouldn't work with the path added.  just that i would never add such a convoluted path
[04:10] <seth> vmware player doesn't support share folderes
[04:10] <seth> so samba seemed like the only way to do it
[04:11] <seth> unfortunatly samba doesn't seem to be able to share from "fuse" or "ntfs" filesystems
[04:12] <intelikey> i suppose one could  export PATH=$(for Q in `find / -type d 2>/dev/null` ;do echo -e "$Q:\c" ;done)        if'n they wanted to... but it's sure not a good idea.
[04:13] <laptop> mozilla-mplayer was already installed
[04:14] <laptop> STILL cant get this video to work http://poststuff2.entensity.net/031907/media.php?media=kyledunnigan.wmv
[04:14] <Alonea_> intelikey: methinks people in rockbox are just as baffled as I am.
[04:15] <mrigns> laptop: vid works for me
[04:16] <intelikey> hehhe i just ran that export for kicks.     i have one console with a path that it takes 3 minutes to display and it scrolls 9 pages    hehhe
[04:16] <maredia> guys how can I get my touch pad scroll mouse to work. It works but does not scroll up or down
[04:16] <intelikey> laptop it the format.
[04:18] <Noob> hi all
[04:18] <Noob> can anyone lend a bit of advice
[04:18] <Noob> im having nix probs
[04:18] <Noob> its with WEP and nix
[04:18] <Skreech> !wep
[04:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:19] <Noob> i can connect wirelessly with my nix box w/o WEP
[04:19] <Noob> but the min i enable WEP it cant do it
[04:19] <Noob> any ideas?
[04:19] <Noob> i want a secure connection
[04:19] <Skreech> intelikey: that page has a wep page
[04:20] <Noob> k ill check it out
[04:20] <Noob> thanks
[04:20] <laptop> YES
[04:20] <intelikey> dat don't mean i know squat about it....
[04:20] <laptop> In UBUNTU you have to put any in the essid
[04:20] <laptop> put ANY in the ESSID box
[04:20] <Alonea_> ok, my computer just did a baaaad thing. I was looking at the gcc pkgs installed and an old one was on even though newer ones were installed and when I removed it, it also removed fglrx. why did it do that?
[04:21] <Skreech> intelikey: Yeah so point sir Noob at it and you both learn :)
[04:21] <intelikey> cause you removed a dpendancy.
[04:21] <Contrast> My guess would be that version of GCC was required to compile FGLRX and/or kernel modules.
[04:21] <intelikey> Skreech not i.
[04:21] <Noob> someone called?
[04:21] <intelikey> no hardware.
[04:21] <Contrast> Or simply put, what intellkey said. :D
[04:22] <Alonea_> intelikey: but why would an old version be a dependency? cant it use gcc 4.x ?
[04:22] <intelikey> Contrast the path thing   lol  yeah
[04:22] <Contrast> ?
[04:23] <intelikey> Alonea_ idk dependancies are a mistery to me.  why libc6 depends on locales   is a good example
[04:23] <Noob> i tried all that in the trouble shooting
[04:23] <Skreech> Noob: Nope :)
[04:23] <Noob> couldnt find an answer
[04:23] <laptop> telling you I tried everything under the sun for my wifi
[04:23] <Contrast> Or why Democracy Player depends on the Mozilla browser and HTML composer. -_~
[04:23] <laptop> until I figured out to put the word "ANY" in the essid space
[04:24] <Noob> laptop: you talking to me?
[04:24] <Contrast> Alonea_:, what method did you use to remove them?
[04:24] <intelikey> yes  or why anything depends on zlib1
[04:24] <Alonea_> Contrast: adept...
[04:24] <laptop> Just that you need to do that
[04:24] <laptop> if you are using wifi with ubuntu
[04:24] <Contrast> Get Synaptic. ;-)
[04:24] <intelikey> or should i say everything depends on zlib1
[04:24] <Alonea_> Contrast: I thought it was interfering with me trying to compile rockbox.
[04:25] <Noob> will that look for literally ANY wifi in the area? there are like 10 essid's around my place
[04:25] <Contrast> It shows you all the changes before ever applying anything. Less chance of anything getting FUBAR.
[04:25] <intelikey> Contrast yes or use apt  it does the same
[04:26] <Contrast> Right...
[04:26] <Contrast> Speaking of Synaptic and apt-get, is there an easy equivalent of apt-get's autoremove function in Synaptic?
[04:28] <Alonea_> uh oh...fglrx wont install now i dont think...
[04:28] <intelikey> Contrast autoremove ?   or autoclean ?
[04:29] <intelikey> moot cause i can't answer anyway
[04:29] <Alonea_> ok, come one..install please!
[04:29] <Alonea_> noooo...CHIKUSO!!!
[04:30] <Contrast> Autoremove
[04:31] <Contrast> I've caught autoclean trying to remove stuff I want too many times.
[04:31] <intelikey> autoclean only does rm /var/cache/apt/archives/* 2>/dev/null     that's all it does.
[04:32] <Alonea_> ok, debs were still there...it still might work...come on kami. work for me.
[04:32] <Jucato> kami-sama?
[04:32] <Contrast> Maybe I'm confused then. I guess I was thinking of Synaptic's remove orphaned packages feature.
[04:33] <Alonea_> YES! kami-sama is nice to me today!
[04:33] <intelikey> well no clean does that autoclean does a more complex rm of only outdated packages... sorry my bad.
[04:33] <Alonea_> Jucato: I resort to partial japanese when frustrated...
[04:33] <Jucato> doshite?
[04:34] <Jucato> :)
[04:34] <Alonea_> Jucato: have no idea really...
[04:34] <Alonea_> Jucato: helps when I dont want to offend our dear english speakers.
[04:34] <intelikey> :)
[04:34] <Jucato> hehe
[04:35] <Jucato> kisama!
[04:35] <Alonea_> Jucato: its like, I took it for a couple years and I forgotten quite a bit of it, but not enough to where I don't half slip into
[04:35] <Contrast> What I mean is, when removing a program in Synaptic that I installed, which automatically installed packages to meet its dependencies. is there a way to automatically remove that packages dependencies along with the program I'm removing? Sorry, I know that's worded terribly. I can give an example if needed. :)
[04:35] <Jucato> I haven't taken it at all.... anyway, getting offtopic so I'll censor myself :)
[04:35] <Alonea_> lol, tis ok
[04:35] <Contrast> remove that package'*s
[04:36] <Jucato> apt-get has that feature already. autoremove. and aptitude has had that for quite some time
[04:36] <Contrast> I know. I'm asking whether Synaptic has that feature. ;-)
[04:36] <intelikey> Jucato so does synaptic ???
[04:37] <Jucato> I thought it would, since it's using apt-get as the backend...
[04:37] <Jucato> but haven't used any GUI PM for quite some time.. so not exactly sure
[04:37] <intelikey> we've ruined him.
[04:37] <Jucato> who ruined who?
[04:38] <Skreech> You
[04:38] <intelikey> well i didn't start using a gui.....  ;/
[04:38] <Jucato> heh no. I've always preferred aptitude the moment I learned about it
[04:38] <Jucato> but Adept is slowly (emphasis on *slowly*) catching up
[04:39] <Contrast> Jucato, speaking of package management, I figured I'd let you know Trevino's and Seveas' Edgy repo's appear to be working fine for Feisty (We briefly discussed Feisty repo's the other night).
[04:39] <Jucato> Contrast: ah good
[04:40] <Contrast> The only thing I had a slight, and easily resolvable problem with, was getting AviDemux installed. Just had to force the version from the official Feisty repo's.
[04:41] <Trickser> why the packages linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic are suspended in an edgy upgrade?
[04:41] <Hasrat_USA> 1) would Edgy notify, instruct and urge me to automatically, easily and trustfully upgrade to Feisty when the latter's final and stable release gets released to the public? 2) would the current edgy users be able to magically upgrade both the kernel and OS by simply clicking once?
[04:42] <Jucato> Hasrat_USA: 1) yes. there's a new dist-upgrade tool that will be installed on edgy (through edgy-updates) that will automate this process. no more manually editing sources.list
[04:43] <Jucato> 2) upgrade to new releases always means upgrading/installing new kernels. then see #1 for the simply clicking once question
[04:43] <intelikey> awww no more nano the list file.... booo
[04:44] <Hasrat_USA> jucato: what if I don't want to either install that dist-upgrade tool or upgrade to Feisty, since I believe I wouldn't have a problem with Edgy for years to come without doing a single upgrade?
[04:44] <Jucato> intelikey: heh you can always do that... in fact you need to do that if you don't have adept installed
[04:44] <intelikey> Jucato !i  i'm sticking with the lts
[04:44] <the-erm> GPL = Gonna Pay Less
[04:44] <Contrast> Hasrat, then no one's forcing you.
[04:44] <Jucato> you can cancel the upgrade notice I believe. but do remember that Edgy is only officially supported for 18 months. not years
[04:45] <intelikey> remember i voted for long term support.   i
[04:45] <intelikey> i'm gonna use it...
[04:45] <Jucato> :)
[04:45] <Jucato> I use what I need and what works for me. done deal :)
[04:46] <Hasrat_USA> Jucato, so, should I assume that if I don't upgrade to Feisty, I will no longer receieve security and software upgrades?
[04:46] <intelikey> band narrow ness   ya know.
[04:46] <the-erm> A friend of mine has a RAID SCSI controller has anyone ever managed to get kubuntu to boot from a setup similar to that?
[04:46] <Jucato> Hasrat_USA: after Edgy's lifetime you won't. but as long as Edgy's supported, you will
[04:46] <Alonea_> how do you empty the trash as root? I am getting access denied
[04:46] <Hasrat_USA> Is edgy going to die the day Feisty is realased?
[04:46] <Alonea_> on some files that its trying to trash that is
[04:46] <Contrast> Hasrat, nope.
[04:46] <Hasrat_USA> when is Edgy's lifetime going to meet its end?
[04:47] <Contrast> 18 months from its release date.
[04:47] <Contrast> Same as with all non-long term support releases.
[04:47] <Jucato> Hasrat_USA: April 2008
[04:47] <Hasrat_USA> oh okay i'm going to find out Edgy's release date then
[04:47] <Jucato> with the release of Kubuntu 8.04
[04:47] <Hasrat_USA> oh on april 2008 lol that's a long time
[04:47] <intelikey> Alonea_ see Jucato for that.
[04:47] <Jucato> O.o
[04:47] <Jucato> I don't know...
[04:48] <Alonea_> lol!
[04:48] <intelikey> you don't know where kde puts it's trash ?
[04:48] <Jucato> I don't know why he's getting access denied errors
[04:48] <Hasrat_USA> what are you doing as ROOT?
[04:48] <intelikey> sure you do...   i'm the one that don't know.
[04:48] <Skreech> Alonea_: What are you trying to do?
 how do you empty the trash as root? I am getting access denied
[04:48] <Hasrat_USA> alonea don't be rooting around :P
[04:48] <Alonea_> Skreech: when I try to empty my trash...ok, what he said
[04:49] <Jucato> intelikey:  <Alonea_> on some files that its trying to trash that is
[04:49] <Jucato> the problem here is that he's being denied from his own user's trash
[04:49] <Alonea_> Hasrat_USA: you cant log in as root on kubuntu...so I am not on root.
[04:49] <intelikey> yep so   sudo rm ~/.local/trash/*   or where ever it is....
[04:50] <Jucato> ~/.local/Trash
[04:50] <Skreech> Alonea_: are you emptying your trash as root or root's trash?
[04:50] <Alonea_> Skreech: no, I just clicked on the trash bucket and said to empty it
[04:50] <Jucato> trying to empty his own trash normally, but getting access denied
[04:51] <Skreech> Umm
[04:51] <Skreech> Help?
[04:51] <intelikey> Alonea_ you can login as root "if" you set a root apsswd and enable kdm's root logins.   it's not that it can't be done, it's that it's not thought of as wise.
[04:51] <Skreech> Adept just threw an incorrect nice value
[04:51] <Skreech>  Please enter a value between -19 and 20
[04:51] <Skreech>  with no way to enter that
[04:51] <cristhianogarcia> hi
[04:51] <Contrast> Skreech, I was getting that earlier today.
[04:52] <Skreech> Contrast: Beautiful
[04:52] <Skreech> How do I fix it?
[04:52] <Contrast> Well, I installed Synaptic and it was nonexistant. No biggie for me since I strongly prefer Synaptic anyway.
[04:53] <Skreech> Bah
[04:53] <Contrast> You could do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see if it's still there.
[04:54] <Skreech> That's what I did :)
[04:54] <Skreech> To get it
[04:54] <Skreech> Alonea_: What is in your trash?
[04:54] <Contrast> To get what?
[04:55] <Skreech> The nice error
[04:56] <Alonea_> do I delete "trash" or whats in it?
[04:56] <intelikey> at least it's a nice error ...
[04:56] <intelikey> what's in it Alonea_
[04:56] <intelikey> and Jucato corrected me, it's    sudo rm ~/.local/Trash/*
[04:56] <Alonea_> Skreech: my rockbox source and the other folder it made when I did rockboxdev.sh. I wanted to start over again.
[04:56] <crackhead_25> !html
[04:56] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[04:56] <intelikey> see i knew he knew.
[04:57] <Contrast> Have you seen the new Synaptic that's on Feisty, Skreech? It's got easy repo. filtering. Don't sleep. :-P
[04:57] <Skreech> Easy repo filtering?
[04:58] <Contrast> You know how Synaptic has that side bar for only viewing packages from certain sections (multimedia, games, etc.) or of certain statuses (broken, installed, not installed)?
[04:59] <Contrast> It now has a listing of all the repo's in your sources.list. It's pretty handy for someone who's always checking out new repositories. Otherwise, pretty useless, I suppose.
[05:00] <Alonea_> ok, this is too hard to delete on the terminal.
[05:00] <ffffu> what apps can use to cut a video? i've got a 1.7 gb video trying to break it into 2 parts for faster loading
[05:00] <Contrast> ffffu, avidemux, kdenlive.
[05:01] <Skreech> any reads perl?
[05:01] <Contrast> ?
[05:01] <Skreech> Contrast: ah the new adept has something like that. It separates third party repos to a tab
[05:01] <Skreech> anyone reads perl?
[05:01] <Skreech> I'm trying to figure out this line
[05:02] <Skreech> debug "db $this->{name}" => "trying to $command($item @_) ..";
[05:02] <Contrast> 'Fraid not. Sorry. :-\
[05:05] <Alonea_> @@...
[05:05] <intelikey> Skreech i'd send you to #perl  but the last time i was in there there were only three jackasses and alagator in there...
[05:06] <Alonea_> ok, now its saying one of the things its trying to delete doesn't exist...
[05:06] <intelikey> i figured if that's what learinig perl makes out of you, i'd just skip it.
[05:08] <intelikey> Alonea_ if it don't exist it can't take up space now can it ?
[05:09] <Alonea_> intelikey: yes but my trashcan is still messed up...
[05:09] <intelikey> when you leave it alone it "should" release the link.
[05:09] <Hasrat_USA> from where can I buy Ubuntu/Kubuntu stickers, logos, shirts, caps etc?
[05:10] <intelikey> if it's still hosed after you logout/in we'll talk
[05:10] <Hasrat_USA> and a coffee mug also
[05:10] <Skreech> Hasrat_USA: Good question
[05:10] <Alonea_> intelikey: I can't log out...only option is shutdown at the moment.
[05:10] <Alonea_> I cant log out, reboot,or anything on that menu after I installed binary drivers.
[05:11] <Skuller> Skreech: are you DaSkreech?
[05:11] <Skreech> Yes
[05:12] <Alonea_> I will shutdown and come back after it finishes its thing for rockbox...
[05:12] <Skuller> ok :)
[05:12] <Skreech> Skuller: #kubuntu-offtopic ? :-)
[05:13] <Skuller> Skreech: bug1??
[05:13] <Skreech> I guessed thats what you were on about
[05:13] <Hasrat_USA> Skreech: because i have just observed that I have been using K/Ubuntu for more than three weeks and haven't restarted in the past 7 days ( 00:13:20 up 8 days,  1:54,  1 user,  load average: 0.23, 0.45, 0.65) and didn't boot to Winddoze in the past 4 months even for once but still I don't have any merchandise to prove to people that I am a fully linux convert now. also, the windows XP media center edition sticker is still attached to
[05:13] <Hasrat_USA> my casing and tommorrow i'm going to scratch it off
[05:15] <intelikey> Hasrat_USA they will know by your speach...
[05:15] <Skuller> Skreech: i didnt come to discuss it (just came back from school). but wouldn't mind a discussion on it if you are interested :)
[05:15] <Alonea_> Hasrat_USA: heh. removed my sticker a while back too. as for paraphernalia http://www.ubuntu.com/products/merchandise
[05:16] <Hasrat_USA> Alonea_: did you burn it also or just flush it down the drain?
[05:16] <Hasrat_USA> i'm planning on sending it back to Mocosoft
[05:16] <Contrast> Free Powered by Ubuntu stickers to replace that hideous Windows propaganda: http://www.system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64
[05:16] <Contrast> Just got mine in the mail a few days ago.
[05:16] <Hasrat_USA> it would cost me 39 cents
[05:17] <Alonea_> Hasrat_USA: lol, nah, I just chewed on it for a while and then stuck it in trash...
[05:17] <Hasrat_USA> thanks for the link. i'm checking it out now
[05:18] <Contrast> They sent a nice little strip of four. One each for my laptop and desktop, and two to stick on any converts I win over. >=)
[05:18] <Hasrat_USA> contrast you lucky bas___ :P
[05:19] <Contrast> Hehehe
[05:19] <Contrast> You can get 'em too, y'know. ;-)
[05:19] <intelikey> Unable to load the requested driver:
[05:19] <intelikey> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Lexmark-1020,lm1100] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[05:19] <Alonea_> I might get some too...
[05:20] <intelikey> looks like the updated package is still broken.   makes me wish i had neve enabled  updates and security repos ....
[05:21] <Hasrat_USA> i already borrowed and read the whole 'the official ubuntu book' from Queens Library
[05:21] <Skreech_> Hasrat_USA: Good book
[05:21] <Contrast> intelikey, can't you force the previous version you had installed?
[05:21] <Hasrat_USA> Skreech nope
[05:22] <intelikey> Contrast yes.  but they should fix the update.  this is LTS  ya know.
[05:22] <Hasrat_USA> skreech because i don't know why but the one i got was all about the version prior to Dapper
[05:22] <Skreech_> full of typos but whatever
[05:22] <Contrast> Ohh, right. Forgot. :-D
[05:22] <gargoth> Good morning =)
[05:22] <Hasrat_USA> morning gargoth
[05:22] <Contrast> How often do they put out LTS releases? Every three years, I'm guessing?
[05:23] <Hasrat_USA> if anyone wants to buy the book, he/she would do buy it only to showcase it I believe. there are books more better than that
[05:23] <intelikey> Contrast the installers version works then the update don't.    it's been that way sense before edgy came out.
[05:23] <intelikey> Contrast yeah should be three years
[05:23] <gargoth> btw, is there any online manual available for kubuntu?
[05:24] <mrp193> i am having trouble reading from my ntfs file system sata hard drive
[05:24] <mrp193> could anyone assist me?
[05:24] <intelikey> the bug was a well known bug they fixed in breezy and reintroduced in dapper.   some body used the broken source to compile a update for dapper....
[05:24] <gargoth> just asking 'cos i am totally newb, when it comes to linux, probably 3'rd time i ever startup this =)
[05:25] <v0taguz> exist any driver for Nvidia 7100 GS on Kubuntu ?
[05:25] <Skreech_> gargoth: yes
[05:25] <Hasrat_USA> lol i don't even know where my NTFS drive is right now. of 160 GB i gave XP only 10 and the rest went to K/Ubuntu
[05:25] <Contrast> gargoth, you're off to a good start with asking where you can find answers yourself, rather than trying to get a quick fix. ;-)
[05:25] <gargoth> mrp193: i am not 100% positive, but as far as i know, linux uses different file system than windows ntfs, unless there is some sort '
[05:25] <gargoth> of driver available, i do not think it is possible
[05:25] <intelikey> Hasrat_USA sudo fdisk -l   if you want to know where it is.
[05:25] <mrp193> i was told it was possible
[05:25] <Contrast> Kubuntu has a pretty extensive help utility - K Menu -> Help.
[05:26] <gargoth> Co
[05:26] <Skreech_> !man
[05:26] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:26] <gargoth> Contrast: hmm... never thought of that, maybe i am too tired x)
[05:26] <Skreech_> !ntfs
[05:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:27] <Hasrat_USA> intelikey: yeah I can do that but there is nothing, absolutely nothing on that except XP. can you believe that XP alone needs 2 GB and it doesn't even come with a free word processor?
[05:27] <intelikey> sure it does.  notepad
[05:27] <intelikey> err no that's not free either.
[05:28] <Hasrat_USA> the only apps i would ever need to run are 1. flash 2 dreamweaver but i can run them two under wine. so, not thanks XP :)
[05:28] <Alonea_> Hasrat_USA: I need to put my XP back on...I miss my games. dearly.
[05:28] <Contrast> Dreamweaver runs perfectly, or close to it, under Wine?
[05:28] <teufel__> i need help with kppp the modem commands
[05:28] <Alonea_> Hasrat_USA: especially oblivion and guild wars
[05:29] <gargoth> oh, and thanks ubotu, think those links will be quite helpful while getting used to this os.
[05:29] <Hasrat_USA> contrast i haven't even installed wine yet. I'm thinking along the line of going for VMware
[05:29] <intelikey> !thanks | gargoth
[05:29] <ubotu> gargoth: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:30] <teufel__> i need help with kppp the modem commands can someone help please
[05:30] <gargoth> Hasrat_USA: i installed it, and tried to play WoW, but.... laggy is the least i could descripe it =/
[05:30] <teufel__> !kppp
[05:30] <ubotu> kppp: modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 667 kB, installed size 3688 kB
[05:30] <Hasrat_USA> Alonea i don't know about them. but unreal tournament, quak4, x-plane and many other high quality games have supported versions for linux
[05:30] <gargoth> oh, now i feel stupid, it was a bot... :D
[05:30] <aphroguy> Hasrat_USA: VMware is good, but you had better have a rock-solid system, it's a resource hog.  Not that you wouldn't expect hardware emulation software to be, but ya know.:-P
[05:30] <intelikey> teufel__ dialup ?
[05:30] <teufel__> yeah
[05:30] <teufel__> my friends comp
[05:30] <intelikey> teufel__ what exactly do you need ?
[05:31] <Hasrat_USA> gargoth: well things are improving day by day, considering the fact that developers aren't getting paid much money for whatever they are doing
[05:31] <intelikey> teufel__ oh and winmodems are a pain.
[05:31] <teufel__> got the modem set up all but the commands
[05:31] <teufel__> it queries to ready
[05:31] <Hasrat_USA> and i could care less about games
[05:31] <Alonea_> Hasrat_USA: yeah, I play UT2004 0n here. but i also miss some of my art programs. mostly Corel Painter XI.5 and the gimp will never be able to compete with what that thing can do. its awesome. (of course painter is for paint stuff)
[05:31] <intelikey> !modem
[05:31] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:31] <intelikey> teufel__ ^
[05:32] <teufel__> i think i might have been here
[05:32] <gargoth> Hasrat_USA: amen to that, and if i understood correctly, there IS a way to get at least wow working with wine, requires some package downloading and possibly some other tricks, but i intended to see what i can do about it now, 'cos when i get some basic understanding, i'm so gonna scrap up Xp :P
[05:32] <Contrast> Alonea_, have you checked out Inkscape, Krita, or Karbon?
[05:33] <Hasrat_USA> alonea well unix and gnu/linux is basically thought/considered to be used by hardcore programmers/hackers/computer engineers etc etc and i don't know what a network administrator/hacker would do with a paint program lol
[05:33] <teufel__> like i need some help with the hsfmodem string commands
[05:33] <intelikey> teufel__    sudo wvdialconf modem ;less modem
[05:33] <intelikey> don't always work but lots of times that will help.
[05:33] <Hasrat_USA> why don't you just try to run corel under wine or vmwire?
[05:34] <gargoth> only reason i used windows as os until now, is the fact that i am a gamer, at least to some degree
[05:34] <Alonea_> Contrast: do you know what painter is exactly? its not really graphic manipulation. its basically a program meant to emulate actual paint. looks way cool. You can import pictures and take a brush and have it use the colors in the picture so you can make your picture look like a painting.
[05:34] <intelikey> teufel__ and that's about as much as i can help in that area.
[05:34] <teufel__> ok hold up ill check it out
[05:35] <Alonea_> Contrast: I am also having a lot of trouble getting my wacom tablet to work with my system properly...
[05:35] <Hasrat_USA> gargoth i have seen folks playing WoW under Wine in full speed, believe me, on YouTube. and let me cite an example...i'm not lying but I have been running Beryl non-stop without reloading it even for once for 8 days ( i aint bragging either) and i have seen so many folks stating that their beryl crashed constantly
[05:35] <Skreech_> YMMV
[05:36] <gargoth> hmm... pardon me for being bit stupid, but what is Beryl, Hasrat_USA ? (as said, newb i am)
[05:36] <gargoth> windows emulator?
[05:36] <BishiNightBird> I was having problems, but I'm using a daily cvs version...
[05:36] <intelikey> !worksforme | Hasrat_USA
[05:36] <ubotu> Hasrat_USA: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:37] <BishiNightBird> gargoth: no, it's eye candy for linux
[05:37] <Skreech_> !beryl
[05:37] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:37] <gargoth> BishiNightBird: ah, thx =)
[05:37] <Hasrat_USA> gargoth I'm 90 percent sure that given proper attention, research and time you would be able to do almost anything in GNU/Linux environment. remember that all other OSs, including MacOSx, Windows and blah blah LITERALLY emerged out of Unix. MacOSx is based on Unix and everyone knows that!
[05:37] <intelikey> and yada, yada yada ydad...
[05:37] <Skreech_> Hasrat_USA: Run a Virus
[05:38] <gargoth> so far, my linux experience is: installed XMMS, know how to start up irssi and some basic commands...
[05:38] <gargoth> Hasrat_USA: never used Mac ;D
[05:38] <gargoth> call me limited x)
[05:38] <DarkED> how do i enable write support for NTFS in kubuntu 6.10?
[05:38] <intelikey> gargoth if you know some basic commands you are well ahead of the pack.
[05:38] <gargoth> oh my :D
[05:38] <Hasrat_USA> lol thanks for asking that question gargoth. i love to show people what beryl is :) http://youtube.com/watch?v=wpi36zV-JNo  My destkop running Ubuntu Edgy Eft (6.10) with XGL/Beryl
[05:38] <DarkED> i'm not really writing to it, i just want to delete some files
[05:39] <Contrast> gargoth:, he speaks the truth.
[05:39] <Contrast> I was that pack for longer than I care to admit. :-\
[05:39] <Hasrat_USA> gargoth I don't understand why you would have to use Mac if you are well-acquinted with Unix
[05:39] <gargoth> blame my ex-gf, she practically kicked me into linux world xD
[05:39] <intelikey> !ntfs3g | DarkED
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <intelikey> !ntfs
[05:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:39] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | DarkED
[05:39] <ubotu> DarkED: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:40] <DarkED> intelikey: thank you :)
[05:40] <intelikey> np
[05:40] <Contrast> My ex-girlfriend picked up an Ubuntu Live CD they were handing out on her campus for me because she knew I'd been interested in Linux. Now she regrets it because I won't shut up about it. Lol
[05:40] <gargoth> that link, is quite useful for me too, since most of my data is still stored on NTFS disk ^
[05:43] (Alonea_/#kubuntu) yes, there are other ways, but the point is, why should I have to make a bunch of buttons and work arounds to get something to work correctly?
[05:43] (gargoth/#kubuntu) Alonea_: ah, that tells too much, tried norton for about couple of days, replaced it first with sygate/avast! now in windows using kaspersky =)
[05:43] (BishiNightBird/#kubuntu) the main problem I have now is if I have it suspend....
[05:43] <beta> update manager is supposed to just bring security fixes and to upgrade installed packages right?
[05:43] <beta> !update
[05:43] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:43] <Hasrat_USA> did you see the video i wanted you to see, gargoth?
[05:44] <gargoth> well, my main problem is hardware, totally, have 1.6GhZ duron 1gb of DDR and 128mb Geforce 4 ti. so...
[05:44] <Hasrat_USA> BishiNightBird: you have ATI, right?
[05:44] <Contrast> Alonea_:, blame ATI for not having good Linux support. :-P
[05:44] <Alonea_> oh, and thank kami for ndiswrapper!
[05:44] <Alonea_> yes, but the no shutdown thing is a Ubuntu specific thing
[05:45] <beta> !updatemanager
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updatemanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <wiiman> getting a weird message after installing
[05:45] <gargoth> Hasrat_USA: ye, watvhing it atm, impressive, to say the least =)
[05:45] <wiiman> "cannot run in framebuffer mode"
[05:45] <Contrast> Ohh... :-X
[05:45] <gargoth> watching it *
[05:45] <wiiman> ???
[05:45] <wiiman> i cant startx when i hdd install but it will start from the cd
[05:45] <Skreech_> Alonea_: What's the current problem?
[05:46] <Skreech_> wiiman: Where are you now?
[05:46] <Alonea_> Skreech_: oh, I can't shutdown, reboot, etc. with the normal buttons. I have to make my own with sudo init #
[05:46] <Hasrat_USA> gargoth: now watch this...this is crazy and funny :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHAdVv6KFJc
[05:47] <intelikey> imo default is nothing more than a starting point for configuring it the way you want.
[05:47] <wiiman> where am i?
[05:47] <wiiman> i'm at root
[05:47] <Admiral_Chicago> wiiman: the intrawebs
[05:47] <Admiral_Chicago> oh wait...
[05:47] <Admiral_Chicago> ignore me.
[05:48] <Skreech_> Alonea_: Seriously? Which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[05:48] <Skreech_> wiiman: in the console?
[05:48] <beta> can someone answer me this update manager is supposed to bring only security fixes and upgrades not to install new packages?
[05:48] <Alonea_> Skreech_: its due to my binary drivers for my video card. its a bug that hasn't been fixed yet.
[05:48] <wiiman> um
[05:48] <smeyer> Ok i am haveing problems with my sound i have been working on it by myself for about 2 day i cant get it working i need up i have tried the Troubleshooting i dont know what to do any help i can get i would love
[05:48] <Skreech_> Alonea_: fglrx?
[05:48] <wiiman> yeah
[05:49] <gargoth> Hasrat_USA: umm, it seems that video is not loading on my browser =/
[05:49] <Alonea_> Skreech_: yeah, and I really need my 3d accel...can't live without it
[05:49] <DarkED> intelikey: i installed the ntfs driver and configured it with ntfs-config and now i can make changes to my windows disk, but my external HDD isn't wanting to work anymore... i plug it up and KDE asks me what to do with it like it normally does but it never comes up
[05:49] <intelikey> wiiman           sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg                                                                              answer all the questions correctly.   don't select frame buffering  and don't select vesa.
[05:49] <wiiman> i could not get x to start so i f keyed to the line command
[05:49] <DarkED> intelikey: any idea whats up?
[05:49] <Hasrat_USA> alonea why don't you simply get rid of the default binary one and replace it with proprietory one?
[05:49] <Skreech_> smeyer: You went through the debugging sound and troubleshooting sound on the wiki?
[05:49] <wiiman> ok let me try
[05:49] <gargoth> !update
[05:49] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:49] <Alonea_> Hasrat_USA: I need 3d accel to run pretty much anything
[05:49] <smeyer> skreech: Yes all of that and the links
[05:49] <dsmith> lol
[05:49] <Skreech_> Alonea_: Ok Bug ATI then
[05:50] <Skreech_> smeyer: #alsa
[05:50] <Alonea_> Skreech_: but this only happens on Ubuntu it seems.
[05:50] <dsmith> hasrat: pie in the face
[05:50] <teufel__> i can now talk to the modem with the terminal
[05:50] <DarkED> well, i'll just try rebooting and see what happens
[05:50] <Skreech_> Alonea_: and Debian?
[05:50] <teufel__> but it wont connect
[05:50] <intelikey> DarkED not really.  i 'assume' it edited /etc/fstab   look for the changes in there.   usb devices are normally sd?
[05:50] <DarkED> intelikey: ok, i'll check it out
[05:50] <Alonea_> Skreech_: have only ever heard of this happening to Ubuntu users. nothing about any of the other distros
[05:51] <wiiman> i have a 32 meg video card i believe what is that in kb?
[05:51] <Contrast> Are there any Beryl users in here?
[05:51] <Skreech_> Well Ubuntu is very popular so that may be skewed
[05:51] <teufel__> but the commands are gone under command list
[05:51] <Skreech_> hi aseigo
[05:51] <Hasrat_USA> gargoth that's because you need to be a member of YouTube and confirm that you're over 18 :P it's not like that video is for adults, but you would see three nude/bare buttocks grouping themselves together to form 'ubuntu' (LOL) and bill gates getting some pie smashed on his face by some attackers in Belgium
[05:51] <teufel__> like the initilizing string
[05:51] <DarkED> intelikey: there is no entry for my drive in fstab
[05:51] <Hasrat_USA> Contrast: yeah
[05:51] <wiiman> intelikey?
[05:51] <DarkED> i'm gonna reboot real quick
[05:52] <Hasrat_USA> Contrast: for 8 days non-stop, even without a single reload
[05:52] <Alonea_> and apparently some people managed to get it to work with turning aspi off, but not for me
[05:53] <Hasrat_USA> Alonea yes and that's why I'm telling you to go for the proprietory driver. for example, type glxgears in shell and see if  you see anything
[05:53] <intelikey> DarkED some commands that help in trubble shooting these theings.   1. sudo fdisk -l      2.  mount      3. cat /proc/partitions     4. cat /etc/fstab     5. sudo blkid
[05:53] <Contrast> Hasrat_USA:, would you care to test out a crash recovery script I wrote for it? It appears to work on my two systems, I just want to make sure before setting it up on a recent convert's computer.
[05:53] <teufel__> anybody here know anything about modem commands
[05:53] <wiiman> ok that didn't work
[05:53] <laptop> DELL is going to preload UBUNTU into servers
[05:53] <wiiman> lame...
[05:53] <Hasrat_USA> Contrast sure. which language is it written in? do i need to give it root access?
[05:54] <aphroguy> laptop: where did you hear that?
[05:54] <FreeZ> hi all
[05:54] <laptop> sorry not servers, desktops
[05:54] <Hasrat_USA> laptop that's old news
[05:54] <Contrast> Just BASH. I'm no further ahead than that yet. :-D
[05:54] <Contrast> Hasrat_USA: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4945&hilit=
[05:54] <laptop> Thats pretty cool for theindustry
[05:54] <laptop> for nix
[05:54] <intelikey> wiiman leave the mem blank  first   if that don't work calculate    echo $((32*1024))
[05:54] <laptop> Ive always liked having a viable alternative to does
[05:54] <aphroguy> Since when is this old news?  I work for Dell.
[05:54] <wiiman> ok
[05:54] <mphilpot> Quick network question -- what's the equivent of ipconfig refresh and renew (for dhcp)
[05:55] <wiiman> i got an error when i tried to select the color depth says......
[05:55] <Contrast> Hasrat_USA: Is there a certain thing you can do on your system that consistently crashes Beryl?
[05:55] <laptop> They did a public query about which version of linux to use, Ubuntu is winning by a lot
[05:55] <wiiman> cannot stat '/etc/x11/xorg.conf':nsf or dir
[05:56] <intelikey> wiiman bash knows simple non-floatingpoint math.
[05:56] <intelikey> eeek
[05:56] <intelikey> ls -ld  /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[05:56] <DarkED> intelikey: ok, i rebooted and still no change ...
[05:56] <Hasrat_USA> contrast um lol not really...the only time it ever crashed on me was when i tried to launch planet penguine racer, but that too stopped happening when i upgraded beryl to 0.2.0
[05:57] <intelikey> reboot seldom changes anything in linux
[05:57] <mphilpot> does sudo ifup <interface> do a dhcp refresh?
[05:57] <DarkED> intelikey: KDE sees the device and tries to mount it because it asks me if i want to open the device to view files ... but then it just does nothing ... i checked fstab and again no entry
[05:57] <intelikey> DarkED some commands that help in trubble shooting these theings.   1. sudo fdisk -l      2.  mount      3. cat /proc/partitions     4. cat /etc/fstab     5. sudo blkid
[05:57] <Hasrat_USA> laptop fedora is a good contender too
[05:57] <Skreech_> mphilpot: sudo dhclient
[05:57] <mphilpot> Thanks!
[05:57] <wiiman> nsf or dir
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[05:58] <laptop> UGH
[05:58] <intelikey> wiiman ls -ld  /etc/x11
[05:58] <DarkED> ok, it shos /dev/sda1 type NTFS
[05:58] <DarkED> shows* even
[05:58] <laptop> Why cant I install http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[05:58] <DarkED> so i just need to add that entry into fstab?
[05:59] <laptop> I download it but I try and install it and yet my browsers still say they dont have it@@@
[05:59] <laptop> \Im going to shoot somebody
[05:59] <DarkED> what is the normal USB external HDD line for fstab?
[05:59] <Alonea_> laptop: awww, firefox installed mine itself through the missing plugin install.
[05:59] <Contrast> Hasrat_USA: Would you mind just running the script and seeing if it successfully reloads Beryl? (Feel free to say "no," I won't get pissy. :-D)
[05:59] <laptop> i even changed it to a deb
[05:59] <laptop> wtf
[06:00] <Hasrat_USA> Contrast with all due respect to your script, may i ask you to know wheather or not you have failed to notice that you can configure the 'stable' beryl to automatically revert to KDE window manager in the event of an unexpected crash?
[06:00] <laptop> There's GOT to be an easier way.
[06:00] <DarkED> laptop: you have to point your browser to it
[06:00] <Hasrat_USA> Contrast no no i'm gonna run it wait
[06:00] <DarkED> laptop: not sure how though
[06:00] <aphroguy> Adobe just hasn't made an attempt to provide linux support for Shockwave.  Kinda sucks, cause I want my Spaced Penguin!
[06:00] <laptop> UGH
[06:00] <Skreech_> laptop: Which site are you trying to load?
[06:00] <Alonea_> laptop: wait, do you have 64 bit?
[06:01] <beta> can someone throw me a link to a site which tests the various streaming formats?
[06:01] <Contrast> Hasrat_USA: I know. I had that configured on the "stable" Beryl for my friend's dad (complete Linux virgin), and it didn't load, so umm... The stuff I wrote in that post happened. ;-)
[06:01] <intelikey> DarkED normally you don't list usb things in fstab    you can. but hotpluging is lost on the device that is mounted via fstab
[06:01] <FreeZ|RU> 
[06:01] <FreeZ|RU> Greetings to all recently has put kubuntu on work do not prompt how there to update, search for necessary packages, to establish that that new, well and certainly to update system (I hope there is that that on similarity apt)
[06:01] <wiiman> samn
[06:01] <aphroguy> DarkED: Point your browser to it?  It doesn't exist for linux, does it?
[06:01] <wiiman> damn
[06:01] <beta> i cant google it..had it bookmarked once
[06:01] <wiiman> cannot stat '/etc/x11/xorg.conf':nsf or dir
[06:01] <wiiman> whf?
[06:01] <wiiman> wtf?
[06:01] <DarkED> intelikey: yes, but whent i plug the device in, KDE doesnt see it and it doesnt have an fstab entry
[06:01] <Contrast> Hasrat_USA: But even if that did work, my script doesn't just load KWin. It loads KWin, waits a few seconds, then reloads Beryl.
[06:01] <DarkED> intelikey: so it seems i need to do it manually
[06:02] <Alonea_> laptop: gimmie a page that uses shockwave and lemme see
[06:02] <DarkED> intelikey: it worked before i installed the ntfs-3g driver, but the driver rewrote the fstab file and killed something
[06:02] <Skreech_> rmmod removes a module from memory?
[06:03] <laptop> okay
[06:03] <intelikey> DarkED ok   /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g user,users,uuid=1000,fmask=644,dmask=755 0 0
[06:04] <DarkED> intelikey: and that will still make it treat the drive as a usb drive right?
[06:04] <Alonea_> laptop: ah...getting shockwave for linux is a bit difficult it seems. Flash is easy. the easy way to get shockwave for linux is install wine, install windows version of firefox, and then install windows version of shockwave on that.
[06:05] <intelikey> that will make it mount automatically   add  ,noauto   in the list of args DarkED
[06:05] <intelikey> then you can mount it at will.
[06:05] <laptop> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[06:06] <DarkED> intelikey: it's cool if it mounts automatically but i'll still be able to unmount it using the 'Safely remove' option too?
[06:06] <laptop> O you are kidding
[06:06] <laptop> I cant use Shockwave
[06:06] <laptop> Cue Darth Vader, "Noooooooooooooooooooooo"
[06:06] <DarkED> intelikey: ahh nevermind, i figured out the real issue :)
[06:06] <intelikey> DarkED you need the noauto  caues if you don't mount it you can't umount it.    well not without sudo
[06:06] <Alonea_> laptop: well, you can with wine, but adobe neglected to make shockwave for linux users...
[06:06] <intelikey> good tell me DarkED
[06:06] <DarkED> intelikey: ok, i gotta boot into windows to fix it
[06:07] <intelikey> lol
[06:07] <intelikey> ok.
[06:07] <laptop> Nobody did it anyway?
[06:07] <intelikey> fs errors
[06:07] <intelikey> ?
[06:07] <DarkED> intelikey: mount tells me the ntfs logfile on the device is corrupt and i need to boot into windows to fix it
[06:07] <laptop> Nobody made shockwave linux?
[06:07] <laptop> See
[06:07] <Alonea_> laptop: nope...
[06:07] <intelikey> DarkED ok.
[06:07] <DarkED> so i need to let windows touch the drive and then unplug it, then boot back into kubuntu :)
[06:07] <laptop> Thats the problem, no DirectX and no Shockwave
[06:07] <DarkED> well, here goes
[06:07] <Alonea_> laptop: and wine is in the repos.
[06:08] <DarkED> laptop: it's not windows. if you want windows, go back to it.
[06:08] <aphroguy> It's not exactly open source software.  Adobe is right up there with good old M$.
[06:08] <laptop> I want Linux to do EVERYTHING
[06:08] <intelikey> Alonea_ wine is in the repos
[06:08] <Alonea_> laptop: though i haven't used it much so I am not the one to ask on step by step on wine.
[06:08] <laptop> aphroguy:  that never stopped anyone before
[06:08] <intelikey> !info wine
[06:08] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[06:08] <laptop> Funny
[06:08] <Alonea_> intelikey: yeah, I saw it in there, but I never figured out how to use it really...
[06:08] <laptop> WINE= Wine Is Not an Emulator
[06:08] <laptop> but it is
[06:08] <intelikey> Alonea_  wine filename.exe
[06:09] <laptop> wine filename.exe?
[06:09] <laptop> that runsit?
[06:09] <Hasrat_USA> Contrast: in my machine it is going back to KDE window manager, then reloading Beryl and finally starting Emerald again
[06:09] <Ryiel> yep
[06:09] <intelikey> no it's not. laptop it'a a "Compatibility Layer"  not an emulator  there is a huge differance.
[06:09] <Alonea_> intelikey: ah, well most of the stuff I wanna run is a bit more trouble than necessary...will play with it another day
[06:09] <aphroguy> Well... it would be wine /path/to/filename.exe
[06:09] <Contrast> Hasrat_USA: That's the intent.
[06:09] <intelikey> Alonea_ k
[06:10] <Ryiel> but if you stay in the file's folder you can type just: wine filename :)
[06:10] <Skreech_> laptop: Wine is not an emulator
[06:10] <Hasrat_USA> and the screen flashes and goes black for a few seconds before loading Beryl
[06:10] <aphroguy> But yes laptop, easy as that.  Took me a while to figure that out, WINE was one of the first things I installed.
[06:10] <Contrast> Hasrat_USA: Thanks for the feedback.
[06:10] <SilentDis> !ksysguard
[06:10] <ubotu> ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 485 kB, installed size 1564 kB
[06:10] <Contrast> As far as I know, the black flashing is unavoidable when reloading Beryl.
[06:10] <gargoth> ahh
[06:11] <Alonea_> Skreech_: of course, maybe we dont really get what the diff between emulator and compatability layer is.
[06:11] <gargoth> it seems my isp is breaking up >.<
[06:11] <Hasrat_USA> contrast when i manually select reload window manager i don't see any black flash. but when i used your script, i saw it
[06:11] <intelikey> Contrast like loading kde from kdm ?
[06:11] <intelikey> Contrast it's resetting the xserver
[06:11] <laptop> See
[06:12] <Contrast> Any suggestions on how to get the black flash out of there?
[06:12] <Skreech_> laptop: Doesn't work that way
[06:12] <Contrast> laptop: Because not all Windows programs work on Wine.
[06:13] <laptop> What is "dummy package"
[06:13] <Alonea_> of course my friend and I want to make a version of linux that has a lot of popular stuff installed, I mean, it wont be made for a very long time, but we do have a name for it. Pandora.
[06:13] <intelikey> laptop and everything would NOT work right out of the box... if it did M$ would quickly churn out some stuff that wouldn't....
[06:13] <laptop> (football player?)
[06:13] <Skreech_> can someone help with over enthusiastic modprobe -r
[06:13] <SilentDis> problem:  ksysguard doesn't seem to want to work.  I'm not sure what i'm missing to get it working.  I did go from ubuntu -> kubuntu (edgy).  I don't think it's local daemon is running, but i'm not sure where to look, etc.
[06:13] <laptop> That's unfortunate.
[06:13] <Skreech_> laptop: A package that doesn't install anything by itself
[06:13] <intelikey> and advertice it as if you could not breath without it...
[06:13] <Skreech_> laptop: No it does not
[06:13] <Contrast> SilentDis, what is it saying when you start it?
[06:14] <gargoth> laptop: and probably they don't make it integral part, because some forthcoming applications which are designed to run on windows, require something microsoft is not willing to give up freely to linux users ;D
[06:14] <Skreech_> And it has an installer program
[06:14] <intelikey> laptop it has an installer program.  dpkg  and the format is  .deb
[06:15] <SilentDis> Contrast: upon trying to connect using ssh, it drops connection immediately.  upon trying Daemon on port 3112, it seems to 'start', but it reports nothing.
[06:15] <Alonea_> Skreech_: maybe an easier to understand installer program? all I know is I mess up quite a bit with packages and why do a lot of them not install links on the Kmenu? it drives me nuts.
[06:15] <intelikey> yep and .deb files will do that laptop   :)
[06:15] <Contrast> SilentDis, give me a sec. I might have had this same problem before.....
[06:15] <Skreech_> Alonea_: Probably aren't GUI programs
[06:15] <SilentDis> Contrast: take your time, thank you :)
[06:15] <intelikey> laptop got your trolling out of your system yet ?
[06:16] <laptop> intelikey:  frustration.
[06:16] <Alonea_> Skreech_: but they are. I have had to find the files and make links and when I install a bunch of stuff I loose track of what I installed and then end up having them on there and forgotten about
[06:16] <Skreech_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11298/
[06:16] <gargoth> SilentDis: :DD
[06:17] <ahlalo_elyon> Alonea_: I feel your pain.  That's why I've had to force myself to only install one or two apps at a time ... that way I can check if it created launchers for them or not.
[06:17] <Skreech_> can someone look at that and tell me waht it is saying?
[06:17] <gargoth> SilentDis: made it especially funny since some ppl claim that i look like sophistaced troll x)
[06:17] <Contrast> SilentDis: It's been a while, so I don't remember exactly, but it had something to do with a bad worksheet on my system. I just selected one of the options under file, might have been "Load Standard Sheets," and boom, it was fixed.
[06:17] <markus> hi
[06:17] <NaNO2x> greets
[06:17] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: yeah..I wanted games so I went on a binge. and "Hearts" wont load...*sniffles*
[06:17] <Skreech_> Alonea_: You sound like you seriously messed up your install of Linux somehow
[06:17] <gargoth> markus: greetings =)
[06:17] <ahlalo_elyon> Alonea_: Yeah, hearts has never worked for me either.
[06:18] <NaNO2x> i'm having issues installing kubuntu edgy on a asus z96j and the covered method isnt working, heres the method, any other advice?
[06:18] <NaNO2x> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319996
[06:18] <Skreech_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11298/
[06:18] <SilentDis> Contrast: I just tried that, it seems to have reset itself, then instantly had the 'connection dropped' message again.
[06:18] <intelikey> laptop let me give you a little advice.    do not come to linux thinking you know anything about computers, you don't.    if you would have approached windows that way the first time you saw it you would have been a fool.   so don't be a fool and think that because you know windows you should know linux.   you have to start at the same place every one else does, at the bottom.
[06:18] <Contrast> Hrmm... Must be a different problem. Sorry.
[06:18] <Alonea_> Skreech_: well, most of my problems I had last time too...I guess I am just really unlucky or just seem to have/install the things that dont want to work right.
[06:18] <Contrast> Did you already check the forums?
[06:18] <NaNO2x> yes
[06:18] <intelikey> makes it much esier to learn if you know you need to learn.
[06:19] <Skreech_> woah
[06:19] <frutax> I just saw this error being discussed on the ubuntuforums and was wondering if anyone knew of a fix yet: I'm getting "Could not commit changes" from Adept everytime I try to install a new package
[06:19] <ahlalo_elyon> intelikey: Well, since I grew up with DOS, I think I was pretty ahead of the game moving from Windows to Linux.  Granted, I still had to learn a LOT all over again, but I wouldn't say I started at the "bottom." ;)
[06:19] <Skreech_> anyone want to see my dmesg output? :-)
[06:19] <SilentDis> intelikey: a very good point.  the only way to start a bit higher up is to have a general 'yearning' to learn.  if you don't wish to learn something new, you will NEVER learn it :)
[06:19] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: oh yay! I grew up on DOS pretty much too.
[06:19] <intelikey> ahlalo_elyon ok  s/windows/dos/  ^  and it's the same game.
[06:19] <DarkED> intelikey: ok, it works now ... but the external isnt coming up on the desktop as a USB drive. i can access it through /media/ though
[06:19] <Contrast> frutax, either open KSysGuard and kill whatever process is using apt, or reboot.
[06:20] <SilentDis> Contrast: not yet.  that is my next stop, if the chatroom had no other suggestions :)
[06:20] <frutax> Contrast, reboot didn't fix it, i'll try opening KSysGuard
[06:20] <NaNO2x> when i do the ctrl alt f1 it goes into a black screen not a shell
[06:20] <Alonea_> hmmm...I wonder if I can get the MS hearts to work on wine...course I would have no idea how to install that just right.
[06:20] <ahlalo_elyon> Alonea_: At least we knew what a terminal/command line was when coming to Linux.  My whole family tells me "Linux sucks" when their MySpace page doesn't show up right. 0.)
[06:20] <SilentDis> Contrast: figured it might've been a common issue amonst those of us who 'side-graded' to KDE from Gnome :)
[06:20] <intelikey> DarkED k.  you'll need someone like Contrast on that.  i'm cli not kde guy.
[06:21] <DarkED> intelikey: ok, thanks
[06:21] <lnxkde> sup
[06:21] <intelikey> np
[06:21] <ahlalo_elyon> Alonea_: MS Hearts works wonderful with wine, actually.  You just need to copy the mshearts.exe file somewhere on your linux partition and run it :)
[06:21] <Skreech_> lnxkde: Dude
[06:21] <Skreech_> Whats up?
[06:21] <Contrast> DarkED: Did you already make sure icons on the desktop are enabled?
[06:21] <NaNO2x> i'd love to try kde and dont want to spend time with gentoo so it would be awesome to get this working with kubunut
[06:21] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: lol! well, I like it quite a bit, but I find installers a bit tiresome when I have to copy such and such to some root folder. why can't it just do it all so i don't screw it up?
[06:21] <intelikey> ahlalo_elyon now there's a name i like   :)
[06:22] <DarkED> Contrast: yes, it worked before i installed the ntfs-3g driver
[06:22] <aphroguy> frutax: also, check to make sure that the changes you're trying to make won't break current dependencies.  It'll normally say BROKE or BREAK (can't remember which) in red letters if there are any issues with something you're looking to install though.
[06:22] <lnxkde> Skreech_: here araging all my stuff in my 140 Gig partition of things :/
[06:22] <lnxkde> Skreech_: u??
[06:22] <DarkED> Contrast: when i'd plug the device it would appear on desktop
[06:22] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: hmmm, gonna go have to find mshearts.exe then.
[06:22] <ahlalo_elyon> intelikey: At least you can address me now, hmm? ;)
[06:22] <Skreech_> rm -r :-)
[06:22] <intelikey> yes
[06:22] <SilentDis> NaNO2x: kubunut, the version of linux for those that make a lot of typos?  *giggle*
[06:22] <lnxkde> Skreech_:  ;( no
[06:22] <Skreech_> lnxkde: breaking my already broken sound
[06:22] <NaNO2x> :P
[06:22] <SilentDis> lmao
[06:22] <lnxkde> Skreech_:  hehehe
[06:22] <Skreech_>  I'm not very good  at sudo modprobe -r it seems
[06:22] <lnxkde> Skreech_: hope u get it to work :)
[06:22] <ahlalo_elyon> !modprobe
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <ahlalo_elyon> hmm... me either
[06:23] <Alonea_> modprobe is my friend.
[06:23] <lnxkde> what sound card is Skreech_?
[06:23] <DarkED> Contrast: i disabled ntfs write support for externals ... lets see what happens when i plug it in this time
[06:23] <Contrast> Not really sure. Sorry. I'm by no means an expert, and certainly not at the level where people should be referring users to me. <cough cough> :-P
[06:23] <Skreech_> ATI SB450
[06:23] <lnxkde> Skreech_: :s
[06:23] <DarkED> Contrast: it worked this time :)
[06:23] <DarkED> Contrast: but i've got no write support haha
[06:23] <ahlalo_elyon> Speaking of NTFS write support, does it usually take this long to copy files from ext3 to ntfs?  I've been going on over a half hour to copy one 4GB file...
[06:23] <lnxkde> Skreech_: I dint know ati made sound cards too!
[06:24] <Skreech> Apparently they do
[06:24] <Skreech> Well at least the wrap an Intel card
[06:24] <DarkED> woah wait a tick... apparently i DO have write support
[06:24] <Contrast> DarkED: What is it mounted as? Did you already try chmod?
[06:24] <NaNO2x> so, anyone have any advice on this certain problem?
[06:24] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: wow, that's insane.  are you copying from remote media via usb1.1 or some such?
[06:24] <Contrast> Brilliant.
[06:24] <lnxkde> Skreech: :/
[06:24] <intelikey> ahlalo_elyon i don't have/use ntfs but i would venture that the answer is no for any fs.
[06:24] <ahlalo_elyon> SilentDis: Nope.  I'm copying from my home folder to a folder on my Windows partition.
[06:25] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: ok, when I run mshearts.exe on wine it wants those dlls...
[06:25] <Skreech> My dmesg is now full of snd module failures
[06:25] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: from ext3 > ntfs then?
[06:25] <gargoth> hmm...that ntfs thingie is rather confusing
[06:25] <ahlalo_elyon> SilentDis: Correct.
[06:25] <intelikey> 4g should write in less than 2 minutes locally on even a slow drive.
[06:25] <Skreech> What file holds my bash history again?
[06:25] <DarkED> Contrast: tis all good in the hood :)
[06:25] <lnxkde> Skreech: using Kubuntu Right now just few days I came back to my linux partition
[06:25] <Contrast> Good deal.
[06:25] <ahlalo_elyon> intelikey: I agree.  Even if there IS a slight slowdown due to the ntfs driver, I can't imagine why it's taking this long.
[06:25] <DarkED> Contrast: in ntfs-config there are two tickboxes - enable support for internal drives and enable support for external drives
[06:26] <intelikey> Skreech ~/.bash_history ?
[06:26] <Skreech> Got it
[06:26] <DarkED> Contrast: i unticked enable support for externals but it's working just fine
[06:26] <DarkED> Contrast: i have write support on my external ... so it's all good
[06:26] <Skreech> crap. Can I flush the current history buffer to it?
[06:26] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: wow.  i'd recommend killing that and trying again.  there's some weird issues with writing to ntfs in linux yet, as the journalizing isn't quite up to snuff.  I'd more recommend installing EXT2 support into windows (ext3 is ext2 with journalizing, won't cause problems, works fine) than the way you're trying.
[06:26] <Skreech> Or is that only done on logout?
[06:27] <ahlalo_elyon> SilentDis: yeah... over a half hour and so far it has copied 469mb
[06:27] <intelikey> yes or a   history  command
[06:27] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: see, I know nothing about wine and how to get stuff to work.
[06:27] <intelikey> Skreech help history
[06:27] <Contrast> I seem to remember something like that actually, from back when I was trying to set up Samba. Amazing that that was only 6 months ago. Feels like years since I enjoyably used a Windows system.
[06:27] <Contrast> Well, I'm heading out. Been up way too long.
[06:28] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: as an open standard, EXT2 is totally and fully supported and works great under windows from my personal experience.  on that rare moment when I need to boot windows, it's been a lifesaver :)
[06:28] <DarkED> Contrast: thanks for the help
[06:28] <laptop> intelikey, unfortunately for you, or for anyone else, I have a keen sense of a computer operating system being a convenience not a hinderance. Deal with it, it goes for windows , for linux, for MAC (I really hate MAC)
[06:28] <Skreech> ok
[06:28] <Contrast> DarkED: No problem.
[06:28] <intelikey> laptop no skin off my nose.
[06:28] <ahlalo_elyon> SilentDis: Well, I'm hoping to mount this ISO within Windows (one of the VERY rare occassions I plan on using Windows)...
[06:28] <Contrast> Good night and good luck. Peace.
[06:28] <DarkED> cya
[06:28] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: actually, which hearts.exe are you using? xp version or what?
[06:28] <ahlalo_elyon> SilentDis: What do I need to install ext2 support there?  A certain app I'm not finding?
[06:29] <ahlalo_elyon> Alonea_: I use the XP version
[06:29] <intelikey> laptop you are the only affected by your openion on that issue.
[06:29] <laptop> Convenience is king
[06:29] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: then you'll be fine with ext2 support under windows.  no copying or anything.  let me grab the homepage of the project for you, it's a simple driver to install in windows, and a reboot, and all your EXTx drives just show up :)
[06:29] <gargoth> !ntfs
[06:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:29] <ahlalo_elyon> SilentDis: Grr... a reboot? lol man, I love Linux!
[06:29] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: roflmao yep :)
[06:30] <intelikey> rex rex
[06:30] <gargoth> !ntfs-3g
[06:30] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:30] <ahlalo_elyon> It's bad enough I have to reboot to load windows as it is ;)
[06:30] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: ah, ok, must find that one then. is it mshearts.exe or hearts.exe?
[06:30] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: check this out http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:30] <ahlalo_elyon> Alonea_: I believe it is c:\windows\system\mshearts.exe
[06:30] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: okies
[06:30] <intelikey> ahlalo_elyon there is vmware and qemu
[06:30] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: may i ask what game you're trying to run?
[06:31] <ahlalo_elyon> intelikey: I've looked into vmware but I can't figure out anything about it.  Making images and such... seems extremely advanced to me.
[06:31] <ahlalo_elyon> SilentDis: Oblivion
[06:31] <ahlalo_elyon> SilentDis: But there are a few other games I play in Windows that I haven't been able to get to work in Linux
[06:31] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: oh! I want oblivion on mine too...
[06:31] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: Oblivion works great for me with Cedega and the oldblivion patch :)
[06:31] <intelikey> ahlalo_elyon yeah kinda.  but it was just an answer to "have to reboot to run windows"
[06:32] <ahlalo_elyon> intelikey: I didn't say EVERYONE has to do that... just me because I lack the technical skill to use vmware ;)
[06:32] <intelikey> :)
[06:32] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon:  check out !cedega.  $5/month, and windows games just work.  it provides wine, an install environment, and a DX wrapper to make it work in OGL
[06:32] <gargoth> hmm, what am i doing wrong, since it seems terminal is not recognizing " gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list " command?
[06:33] <Alonea_> I have to pay money for that? too poor...I am a college student with no job
[06:33] <SilentDis> ahlalo_elyon: alternately, games that are already OGL (such as WoW) will run with wine under linux with virtually no issue.
[06:33] <intelikey> gargoth using gnome commands in kde
[06:34] <gargoth> ahha...
[06:34] <intelikey> gargoth sudstitute   kdesu for gksu  and   kate for gedit
[06:34] <SilentDis> Alonea_: not necessarily.  if you are not intimidated by svn repos, there's an unpackaged version that you can pull from their repos for free and use.  just not 'streamlined'.  also, check out !crossover.
[06:34] <aphroguy> gargoth: try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:34] <gargoth> thx for those =)
[06:34] <aphroguy> Nano is THE MAN.
[06:34] <intelikey> gargoth or the cli mode that aphroguy mentioned.
[06:34] <Alonea_> SilentDis: well, I use svn for rockbox...
[06:35] <NaNO2x> not me
[06:35] <intelikey> vim
[06:35] <NaNO2x> :P
[06:35] <draik> Does anybody know where I can find human body parts for all the letters of the alphabet?
[06:35] <aphroguy> Nano = My favorite HTML IDE :-D
[06:35] <ahlalo_elyon> Okay, other than PowerISO, does anyone know how to convert .DAA files to .ISO?
[06:35] <Alonea_> I prefer vim.
[06:35] <Hasrat_USA> good night
[06:35] <intelikey> html ide  lol
[06:35] <ahlalo_elyon> draik: Uhm, I don't know whether to laugh or call the authorities.
[06:35] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: did you see the free poweriso thing for linux?
[06:35] <krquamme> i have a question about the jpeg library
[06:35] <SilentDis> Alonea_: check out http://www.transgaming.com/ then.  as per the GPL, they have to make it available in some manor.  i paid for it because i find it exceptionally useful, and I'm happy to support the things I like with a small finantial donation for 'ease of use' packages.
[06:36] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: it worked fine for me to convery .daa to iso on the command line
[06:36] <draik> ahlalo_elyon: so-called authorities would laugh as well. I am just looking for a list. Google wasn't of much help. Especially with Q, X Y and Z
[06:36] <krquamme> why do some jpegs show up "garbled" in any browser I use?
[06:37] <Alonea_> SilentDis: thanks
[06:37] <SilentDis> speaking of 'paying for it to support it', what with feisty coming out, I'd like to purchase DVDs of ubuntu and kubuntu when it's released.  is the 'best' way to do this via Amazon?  does some portion go back to the devs that way?
[06:37] <intelikey> krquamme have an example ?
[06:37] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: other than that, I have not seen any other ways to convery .daa files to .iso easily.
[06:38] <krquamme> intelikey: do you want a web addy, or an uploaded screenshot?
[06:38] <Alonea_> ahlalo_elyon: and I am consistently spelling convert wrong...
[06:38] <intelikey> url
[06:38] <intelikey> wanted to test to see if i could reproduce that
[06:39] <krquamme> intelikey: http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97543
[06:39] <intelikey> k   sec
[06:39] <krquamme> intelikey: the black portion of the sunburst shows up with green in it
[06:41] <lotusleaf> I'm getting dependency issues when trying to install kubuntu-desktop, never had this before, it says it needs to install several packages but that they won't be installed. I've added the kubuntu repo and refreshed but still this remains. Any clue? This is w/ Edgy.
[06:41] <krquamme> intelikey: btw i am on 6.10 edgy
[06:41] <NaNO2x> any advice on the installation issue?
[06:42] <krquamme> NaNO2x: what issue are u having?
[06:42] <Alonea_> well, I am gonna goto bed here
[06:42] <NaNO2x> when i do ctrl alt f1
[06:42] <NaNO2x> it doesnt go into shell
[06:42] <NaNO2x> the actual error i'm having is this
[06:42] <Alonea_> night everyone.
[06:42] <NaNO2x> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319996
[06:42] <NaNO2x> gnight
[06:43] <SilentDis> lotusleaf: what packages?  you can !pastebin if you would prefer to just give us the output of this command:  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:43] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, thx one sec
[06:43] <krquamme> NaNO2x: have you tried using ctrl+alt+bksp instead
[06:43] <intelikey> krquamme k.   loading now.   it will take a minute dialup and busy.
[06:44] <krquamme> intelikey: aight
[06:44] <NaNO2x> its just going into this black screen
[06:44] <NaNO2x> then coming back up with the slash stuff
[06:44] <NaNO2x> but it never hits shell
[06:44] <NaNO2x> thank you for the assistance
[06:44] <intelikey> krquamme what browser/s in particular have you tried ?
[06:45] <krquamme> intelikey: firefox and konqueror
[06:45] <intelikey> k
[06:45] <nonuda> !ati
[06:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <krquamme> NaNO2x: try killing it with ctrl+alt+bksp and then using the crtl+c to kill the restart
[06:45] <NaNO2x> do i have to do that before i burn the cd?
[06:46] <draik> Does anybody know where I would be able to find human body parts alphabetically?
[06:46] <SilentDis> draik: as this is the kubuntu support chat room, I think it would be best to hit google for that, alternately, check wikipedia :)
[06:47] <NaNO2x> nope still all screwed up
[06:47] <draik> SilentDis: I have tried. I thought I'd pick at the brains in this room
[06:47] <intelikey> krquamme i can't reproduce that affect.   could it be the xserver set to 256 colour depth ?    what about setting to some other refresh rate ?
[06:48] <krquamme> intelikey: i'll check out my nvidia driver settings and see
[06:48] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, it's possible when I use aptitude, but there's dep issues: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11300/
[06:48] <intelikey> krquamme that's all i can think of off the top of my hat
[06:48] <speedo409> How can I get my scrolling to work on my laptop using kubuntu ?
[06:48] <krquamme> would a 32bit depth give me problems?
[06:48] <krquamme> intelikey: would a 32bit depth give me problems?
[06:48] <nonuda> how to stop x server?
[06:49] <intelikey> krquamme it could.  try 24
[06:49] <krquamme> intelikey: yea, brb
[06:49] <intelikey> i normally use 15  heh
[06:49] <intelikey> performance issue.  slow box.
[06:50] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, it appears with the kdebase-bin package just to be a version issue with slight discrepancy
[06:51] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, should I just accept or do I need to do something special? :) It's never gave me a conflict before
[06:51] <SilentDis> lotusleaf: looks like you pulled kdebase-bin from another repo.  the actual data is probably the same/real similar, just not the 'proper' package.  in adept (kmenu > system > adept), search for kdebase-bin, and you should be able to rt. click on it and choose a different version.
[06:51] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, I don't have adept installed but thx :)
[06:52] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, attempts to install adept receive same issue
[06:52] <SilentDis> lotusleaf: mmm... synaptic from gnome?
[06:52] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, Synaptic, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from CLI and aptitude say the same
[06:52] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, sorry, not dist-upgrade in this instance
[06:52] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, as I have no Kubuntu on this box atm
[06:53] <SilentDis> lotusleaf: right... use synaptic to force version on the kdebase-bin package, then retry installing kubuntu-desktop
[06:53] <nonuda> what is this mean, ./ati-installer.sh: 165: syntax error: bad substitution
[06:53] <lnxkde> bye Skreech God bless you
[06:53] <lnxkde> God bless you all guys
[06:53] <lotusleaf> SilentDis, k thx I'll try that
[06:53] <lnxkde> see ya laterz
[06:53] <SilentDis> !envy | nonuda - check this tool out, it'll install the driver for you, no hastle, no muss :)
[06:53] <ubotu> nonuda - check this tool out, it'll install the driver for you, no hastle, no muss :): envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[06:54] <NaNO2x> bah this sucks le sigh, i dont want to spend time figuring another distro
[06:54] <intelikey> nonuda means that a var didn't substitute correctly in the script.
[06:55] <nonuda> SilentDis, i used envy...but i download the file manually, coz its the big file
[06:55] <nonuda> is that mean the donwloaded file is corrupt?
[06:56] <SilentDis> nonuda: no problems.  after envy is installed, you can sudo cp /path/to/ati/driver/filename /usr/share/envy
[06:56] <intelikey> nonuda means the script got tickeled at the wrong time and blew beer out it's nose.    both sides.   :)
[06:56] <nonuda> ok..try it now
[06:57] <ahlalo_elyon> !iso
[06:57] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:58] <intelikey> you guys are no fun.  i'm going back to bash...
[07:01] <nonuda> aha..envy detect the installer..seems it works, hope i see no errors, thanks SilentDis
[07:03] <NaNO2x> what are the alternate cds anyway?
[07:04] <aphroguy> NaNO2x: Alternate install CDs?
[07:05] <NaNO2x> umm
[07:05] <Skuller> Sodium Nitrite: no idea...i wanted to know that too for a long time too
[07:05] <NaNO2x> i'm burning
[07:05] <NaNO2x> kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[07:05] <aphroguy> That's a text-based installer, rather than a live CD.
[07:05] <NaNO2x> ah
[07:06] <NaNO2x> ok
[07:06] <NaNO2x> so that may work
[07:06] <aphroguy> Mostly for VERY low end systems, such as mine.
[07:06] <NaNO2x> since this seems to be a graphics problem
[07:06] <NaNO2x> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319996
[07:06] <aphroguy> Are you on a notebook or desktop?
[07:06] <NaNO2x> notebook
[07:06] <Eruantalon> How do I make beryl the default window manager?
[07:06] <aphroguy> Integrated graphics?
[07:06] <NaNO2x> look in the beryl wiki, there is a page on it
[07:06] <NaNO2x> make it autostart
[07:06] <NaNO2x> no
[07:07] <NaNO2x> ati x1600
[07:07] <aphroguy> Hmmm.... well, it will definitely get it installed.
[07:07] <Skuller> !alternate | NaNO2x
[07:07] <ubotu> NaNO2x: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:07] <nonuda> Parse error on line 181 of section monitor in file /etx/X11/xorg.conf , this the only error of ati installation using envy
[07:08] <NaNO2x> its not working with the live cd
[07:08] <NaNO2x> thats the problem
[07:08] <NaNO2x> if it was wroking id love to use it
[07:09] <aphroguy> It may not get your GUI running, but booting into safe mode and running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will give you the option to play around with the pre-installed GPU drivers.
[07:09] <Skuller> you sure you set the cd boot options in the bios?
[07:09] <NaNO2x> yes its getting into the cd
[07:09] <NaNO2x> its just once i get through the install etc
[07:09] <NaNO2x> so like now
[07:09] <NaNO2x> its configuring x
[07:09] <Skuller> checked the cd for errors?
[07:10] <NaNO2x> going through all the startups
[07:10] <NaNO2x> yeah
[07:10] <NaNO2x> no errors
[07:10] <aphroguy> That's what my fiancee had to do.  She has an ATI, don't remember the exact model off the top of my head.
[07:10] <NaNO2x> so once it boots up here
[07:10] <NaNO2x> i try ctrl alt f1
[07:10] <NaNO2x> and it goes into an all black screen
[07:10] <NaNO2x> not a shell
[07:12] <NaNO2x> ij si
[07:12] <NaNO2x> woops
[07:12] <NaNO2x> ok
[07:12] <NaNO2x> so its in the booted up
[07:12] <jay08> hmm
[07:12] <NaNO2x> and everything is unreadable
[07:12] <NaNO2x> now
[07:12] <jay08> wer is dis?
[07:12] <NaNO2x> should i do ctrl alt f1?
[07:12] <NaNO2x> or another ctrl alt
[07:13] <jay08> wers ur loc?
[07:13] <nonuda> i can't start x, after i install ati driver using envy, when i startx it said, Parse error on line 181 of section monitor in file /etx/X11/xorg.conf "Endsection? is not valid keyword in this section, how do i fix this?
[07:13] <NaNO2x> hmm?
[07:13] <Skuller> location
[07:13] <NaNO2x> such as?
[07:13] <NaNO2x> where do i live
[07:13] <NaNO2x> :P
[07:14] <jay08> hmm
[07:14] <jay08> cno taga zamboanga?
[07:14] <nonuda> anyone?
[07:14] <jay08> cno taga zamboanga?
[07:15] <NaNO2x> unsure, maybe i can help once i actually get nix installed :p
[07:15] <jay08> may taga zambo ba d2?
[07:15] <NaNO2x> so should i try the ctrl alt f1 again?
[07:17] <aphroguy> Where are you at right now, what's on your screen Nano?
[07:17] <NaNO2x> ok
[07:18] <NaNO2x> i pressed ctrl alt f1
[07:18] <NaNO2x> and it took me to an all black screen
[07:18] <NaNO2x> the forum said it would goto a shell
[07:18] <NaNO2x> so i'm a bit confused there
[07:18] <aphroguy> Okay, where were you before pressing ctrl alt f1?
[07:18] <teufel_> ok here is the problem for those up to the challenge i can connect to the isp through the kppp modem terminal but when i try to connect to the isp through the normal logon i the modem hangs it doesnt even make sound nothing at is there some way to connect to the isp its a hsfmodem
[07:18] <NaNO2x> it had booted in
[07:18] <NaNO2x> gone to the install
[07:18] <aphroguy> At the login screen?  In your desktop environment?
[07:19] <NaNO2x> but once it got to the actual start screen
[07:19] <NaNO2x> yeah
[07:19] <NaNO2x> there it went all diagonal slashes
[07:19] <NaNO2x> in the light blue
[07:19] <NaNO2x> and two spaces that were really thin i could arrow between
[07:19] <NaNO2x> and then the currsor was spinning around the screen when i moved it
[07:19] <teufel_> !hsfmodem
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hsfmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <aphroguy> Wow, huh..... so it's not successfully displaying ANYTHING.  Did the Kubuntu loading screen even work?  Where it shows you all the startup processes and tasks it's doing?
[07:21] <NaNO2x> yeah
[07:21] <NaNO2x> that worked fine
[07:21] <NaNO2x> its just after that that it breaks
[07:21] <aphroguy> Did you get to the login screen at all?
[07:22] <NaNO2x> not visible
[07:22] <teufel_> is there anybody here who has had to configure kppp before
[07:23] <aphroguy> Okay, what I'd do is reboot (probably have to hard reboot from the tower) then when Grub is starting up, you'll have 3 seconds to hit ESC to go to boot options.
[07:23] <NaNO2x> yeah
[07:23] <NaNO2x> did all that
[07:23] <NaNO2x> this doesnt even need hard reboots
[07:24] <NaNO2x> it closes itself correctly with the power button
[07:25] <aphroguy> Were you able to pull up the "ComputerName@root:" prompt?
[07:25] <aphroguy> Er...
[07:25] <NaNO2x> no
[07:25] <aphroguy> Wait.....
[07:25] <aphroguy> Strike that.
[07:25] <aphroguy> Reverse it.
[07:25] <aphroguy> There we go.
[07:25] <NaNO2x> hehe
[07:25] <NaNO2x> no
[07:25] <NaNO2x> no shell support
[07:26] <aphroguy> Well monkey.
[07:26] <NaNO2x> gonna try this alt version
[07:26] <NaNO2x> possibly it will work
[07:26] <NaNO2x> :P
[07:27] <aphroguy> So you were just running it from the Live CD, it hasn't been installed yet?
[07:27] <NaNO2x> never got to running
[07:27] <NaNO2x> but yes
[07:28] <aphroguy> Well.... in a manner of speaking.;)
[07:28] <NaNO2x> doing a cd check on this one
[07:28] <NaNO2x> will tell you when done
[07:28] <NaNO2x> and should i do txt, oem, or cmd line
[07:28] <mrigns> drg
[07:28] <mrigns> whoops
[07:29] <mrigns> anthy was turned on
[07:29] <cpk1> hehe it happens =)
[07:29] <aphroguy> With the alt CD, you will have to install it before it runs, obviously.  But if I recall, it does give you the options for video card drivers.
[07:29] <NaNO2x> heres how i speak japenses ????? ??? ????????????? ???? ???????????/
[07:29] <mrigns> i just tried to say good morning :D
[07:29] <NaNO2x> hmm ok
[07:29] <NaNO2x> :P
[07:29] <cpk1> hmm well I only see 2 hiragana characters in there
[07:29] <mrigns> actually 3
[07:29] <NaNO2x> yeah
[07:29] <aphroguy> Oh geez, I don't even remember which one I did.  Txt?
[07:30] <NaNO2x> i think txt is the right one
[07:30] <NaNO2x> its the top one
[07:30] <NaNO2x> but we'll see
[07:30] <NaNO2x> still checking
[07:31] <aphroguy> That's the handy thing about the way the devs set up the installation process: most of the generals to get it to 'just work' are set as default, so if you don't know something, leave it where it is.
[07:31] <mrigns> is there a way to add scripts to the konqueror context menu?
[07:31] <nonuda> !beryl
[07:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:31] <NaNO2x> beryl looks nice but i'm unsure if its really needed
[07:34] <NaNO2x> i'm a kde noob though, so it may work better on this
[07:34] <cpk1> beryl isnt needed
[07:34] <NaNO2x> ok
[07:34] <NaNO2x> all verified
[07:34] <NaNO2x> txt mode now
[07:34] <mrigns> i think there are some good features in beryl
[07:34] <mrigns> and the cube isnt one of them ;P
[07:34] <mrigns> the task switching tools and thumbnails in the bar are quite nice
[07:34] <provolik> Hi
[07:35] <provolik> Does someone of you have experience with aMSN and webcam?
[07:35] <aphroguy> Of course it's needed; it is if you have the hardware to support it.  And if you don't need it, you need the hardware to support it so that you do need it.:-D  And unfortunately, I have neither at the moment.
[07:35] <Number2> B-P
[07:35] <provolik> -_-
[07:36] <NaNO2x> provolik yes
[07:37] <provolik> can you help me? It says me I have a firewall or a rouetr
[07:37] <mrigns> do you?
[07:37] <provolik> I have a router but I opened ports from 6890 to 6900
[07:37] <provolik> Now I don't know anything about the firewall
[07:37] <NaNO2x> are you using amsn?
[07:37] <provolik> yes
[07:43] <mrigns> wtf?
[07:43] <provolik> It says me that I am behind a firewall or a router....
[07:43] <provolik> I opened ports from 6890 to 6900 on my router
[07:43] <provolik> but it says me the same...
[07:43] <provolik> can you help?
[07:43] <provolik> uhm
[07:43] <provolik> I opened ports from 6890 to 6900 on my router, NaNO21
[07:43] <provolik> It says me that I am behind a firewall or a router....
[07:43] <NaNO21> wtf is with the server
[07:45] <Skuller> NaNO21: what wtf is with the server?
[07:45] <mrigns> some kind of netsplit
[07:46] <NaNO21> hmmm
[07:46] <NaNO21> one sec
[07:47] <NaNO21> lets see if this kicks me
[07:47] <NaNO21> nvm it would
[07:48] <teufel__> ok here is the problem for those up to the challenge i can connect to the isp through the kppp modem terminal but when i try to connect to the isp through the normal logon i the modem hangs it doesnt even make sound nothing at is there some way to connect to the isp its a hsfmodem
[07:48] <NaNO21> hmm
[07:48] <NaNO21> unsure on that
[07:48] <NaNO21> on the amsn problem
[07:48] <NaNO21> what router are you using?
[07:49] <mervteck_> Can Anyone help me with a cedega problem
[07:50] <teufel__> !dialup
[07:50] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:50] <teufel__> !modem
[07:51] <provolik> I am using US Robotics NaNO21
[07:51] <teufel__> !modem
[07:51] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:51] <NaNO21> ah
[07:51] <NaNO21> hmm
[07:51] <NaNO21> havent delt with them much heard they were good
[07:51] <NaNO21> but i cant help you much
[07:51] <teufel__> i think all i need is the modem strings
[07:51] <provolik> :-\
[07:51] <provolik> It's strange however
[07:51] <NaNO21> why would you ever wana use dialup!!!!
[07:52] <teufel__> i dont know i have not messed with a modem since like 98
[07:52] <teufel__> its my friends comp
[07:52] <provolik> If I open aMSN and I don't log in it says me that the ports are OK
[07:52] <NaNO21> hmm
[07:52] <NaNO21> well go into preferences
[07:52] <provolik> but if I log in it says me I am behind a firewall or a router
[07:52] <NaNO21> yeah
[07:52] <NaNO21> so check preferences
[07:52] <teufel__> i have spent alot of time loading him down with kubuntu telling him its cool then at the end of it all the modem doesnt work
[07:52] <NaNO21> and scan those ports on yourself
[07:53] <NaNO21> it could be a software setting you have
[07:53] <NaNO21> lol
[07:53] <NaNO21> that sucks
[07:53] <provolik> uhm
[07:53] <provolik> amsn preferences?
[07:53] <NaNO21> modem support usually isnt bad
[07:53] <NaNO21> yeah
[07:53] <teufel__> i can connect to the modem and get to the login prompt
[07:53] <NaNO21> i dont have it open right now so i cant tell you exactly
[07:53] <teufel__> with the terminal
[07:54] <teufel__> the modem terminal in kppp
[07:54] <mrigns> teufel__: if you want to show someone a GNU/Linux desktop, show him SabayonLinux 3.3
[07:54] <teufel__> i just loaded linux not a week ago
[07:54] <ffffu> any dudes have used avisplit before?
[07:55] <NaNO21> not i
[07:55] <teufel__> i can talk to my modem and all of that but it wont initilize and dial through kppp
[07:55] <ffffu> anyone knows how to split my viz?
[07:55] <NaNO21> ugh this is so much easier to install with pictures...or at least easier to watch while it installs :P
[07:56] <provolik> ok I will try later
[07:58] <NaNO21> hrm
[07:58] <NaNO21> its been stuck at 6% for a while
[07:58] <teufel__> well this is hopeless i think
[07:59] <NaNO21> nothing is hopeless
[07:59] <NaNO21> things just take a longer while
[08:05] <NaNO21> ok...
[08:05] <NaNO21> sooooo
[08:05] <NaNO21> still have the issue
[08:05] <NaNO21> it installed and all
[08:05] <NaNO21> but now its still the slanted stuff
[08:07] <mervteck_> hey can someone look at teh picture in this link and tell me how to get the thing on the right http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/LazyMonkeys-Gentoo?content=27915
[08:08] <iwonder> nfi  mervteck_ several of them do that
[08:08] <mrigns> thats superkaramba
[08:08] <mervteck_> can ya tell me how to get it =D
[08:08] <mrigns> the bomb in the systray
[08:09] <mrigns> apt-get install superkaramba i guess
[08:09] <mrigns> but there are many applets/themes etc for the prog
[08:10] <mervteck_> yeah i wanna get that same monitor guy thats on the right
[08:10] <mervteck_> i likie
[08:10] <iwonder> there are tons of "pieces" for superkamba
[08:11] <iwonder> i never found much use for them except eye candy
[08:11] <mervteck_> yeah im lookin at em now
[08:12] <Skuller> anyone here also on #freenode-social?..if yes, can you tell me what is it about?
[08:12] <NaNO2x> anyone help out with this issue?
[08:12] <iwonder> whats the issue NaNO2x?
[08:13] <mervteck_> mmm much better i loves my geektastic eyecandy =D
[08:14] <mervteck_> can u guys tell me how to upgrade my videocard drivers for nvidia, i dunno which im usin cuz i installed with Automatix2
[08:15] <mrigns> the u probably got the newest one around
[08:15] <mrigns> apt-get install nvidia-glx otherwise
[08:15] <mervteck_> k cuz like im wondering why its not detecting my card the gpu the memory and suck in the bit of eyecandy
[08:16] <mervteck_> such*
[08:16] <mrigns> which card is it?
[08:16] <mervteck_> 7950gt
[08:16] <NaNO2x> *sigh*
[08:16] <NaNO2x> so pissed at this
[08:16] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:16] <mervteck_> yup i got newest version
[08:16] <NaNO2x> well i cant reach shell from the start screen with ctrl alt f1
[08:17] <epimeth> !codecs
[08:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:17] <NaNO2x> since i have an ati card i need to get a default set till i can get the ati driver
[08:17] <mrigns> its alt ctrl f1
[08:17] <NaNO2x> ctrl alt and altr ctrl shouldnt matter
[08:17] <NaNO2x> :P
[08:17] <iwonder|too> ctrl+alt+backsp
[08:17] <iwonder|too> to kill x
[08:17] <iwonder|too> type killall kdn
[08:17] <iwonder|too> kdm
[08:18] <NaNO2x> well
[08:18] <NaNO2x> i'm not getting a shell
[08:18] <iwonder|too> then edit your xorg.conf to use vesa
[08:18] <NaNO2x> and that wont kill x
[08:18] <NaNO2x> that sounds good
[08:18] <iwonder|too> usually have to hit it to or 3 times
[08:18] <NaNO2x> but the ctrl alt backspace
[08:18] <NaNO2x> oh
[08:18] <NaNO2x> one sec
[08:18] <NaNO2x> nope
[08:19] <NaNO2x> not killing x
[08:19] <iwonder|too> k
[08:19] <iwonder|too> is sshd running?
[08:19] <NaNO2x> unsure
[08:19] <NaNO2x> i just installed with the alt cd
[08:19] <iwonder|too> default install?
[08:19] <epimeth> !wmv
[08:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:19] <NaNO2x> because the live cd wouldnt even boot in
[08:19] <NaNO2x> i mean it goes througgh boot stuff
[08:19] <NaNO2x> but comes with this slant
[08:19] <NaNO2x> so i got through steps with alt cd on txt
[08:20] <NaNO2x> so kubuntu shoudl be fully active right now
[08:20] <NaNO2x> should i try sshing in
[08:20] <iwonder|too> in grub do you have  multiple listings og same kernel
[08:20] <NaNO2x> yeah
[08:20] <iwonder|too> try the second one
[08:20] <NaNO2x> one is for like
[08:20] <NaNO2x> recovery
[08:20] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:20] <NaNO2x> one sec
[08:20] <mervteck_> how do i customise my little side guy now to watch my pci ethernet card not my onboard
[08:21] <NaNO2x> ooh
[08:21] <NaNO2x> i'm in root
[08:21] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:21] <NaNO2x> so now what do i do
[08:21] <mrigns> try the config
[08:22] <NaNO2x> which config
[08:22] <iwonder|too> depends on which editor you have
[08:22] <NaNO2x> pico i'll use
[08:22] <NaNO2x> i'm sure it has pico
[08:22] <NaNO2x> :p
[08:22] <unix_infidel> holy jebus do i hate installing OS's
[08:22] <mrigns> was addressing mervteck_
[08:22] <NaNO2x> but wheres it located
[08:22] <iwonder|too> one sec let me see
[08:22] <unix_infidel> especially since its taken almost 5 hours and its going to take just as long on the other comp
[08:22] <mrigns> mervteck_: switch the string eth0 with eth1
[08:22] <mervteck_> what you mean mrigns
[08:23] <unix_infidel> too bad this stuff is windows, cant wait to run these nix install scripts and just be DONE later on :)
[08:23] <mervteck_> where do i change that
[08:23] <iwonder|too> in /etc/X11
[08:23] <mrigns> rightclick on the actual applet should pop up a context menu
[08:23] <iwonder|too> i use nano but use what u are familiar with
[08:23] <iwonder|too> change the driver line to vesa
[08:24] <iwonder|too> the xorg.conf
[08:24] <NaNO2x> i've never used nano
[08:24] <NaNO2x> whats diff with that and pico :p
[08:24] <iwonder|too> never used pico
[08:24] <mrigns> VIM FOREVER!
[08:24] <NaNO2x> i use vim for ...well more stuff
[08:24] <NaNO2x> but not for a basic txt editor
[08:24] <iwonder|too> i hate vi,some of my terminal mis interput :q
[08:25] <NaNO2x> ok so which one do i chang
[08:25] <iwonder|too> type nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:25] <iwonder|too> use your down arrow to get to the drive line
[08:25] <iwonder|too> use delete key
[08:25] <iwonder|too> type in vesa
[08:25] <iwonder|too> hit ctrl x
[08:25] <mervteck_> well im off to bed
[08:25] <iwonder|too> hit y
[08:26] <mervteck_> have a good nite guys
[08:26] <mrigns> here its morning
[08:26] <mrigns> bye
[08:26] <mrigns> ;P
[08:26] <mervteck_> =P
[08:26] <NaNO2x> wait
[08:26] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:26] <NaNO2x> ...
[08:26] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:26] <NaNO2x> oh
[08:26] <NaNO2x> drive
[08:26] <NaNO2x> i'm on device and it says vesa
[08:26] <NaNO2x> hrm
[08:26] <NaNO2x> i dont see drive
[08:27] <mrigns> driver
[08:27] <mrigns> not drive
[08:27] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:27] <iwonder|too> section "device"
[08:27] <iwonder|too> Driver
[08:27] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:27] <NaNO2x> i'm there
[08:27] <NaNO2x> and it has "vesa"
[08:27] <NaNO2x> soooo
[08:27] <iwonder|too> and it messes the screen up?
[08:27] <NaNO2x> yeah
[08:27] <NaNO2x> hrm
[08:28] <NaNO2x> maybe i should just install the ati drivers from cmd
[08:28] <mrigns> the ati driver isnt running
[08:28] <iwonder|too> do you perhaps have multiple drivers?
[08:28] <NaNO2x> shouldnt
[08:28] <mrigns> no, vesa is running
[08:28] <NaNO2x> section "device"
[08:28] <NaNO2x> identifier "ati technologies, inc. ati default card"
[08:28] <NaNO2x> driver "vesa"
[08:28] <NaNO2x> busid "pci:1:0:0"
[08:29] <iwonder|too> mine use radeon there but its an older card
[08:29] <iwonder|too> i usually use vesa as a fall back
[08:29] <NaNO2x> yeah
[08:29] <NaNO2x> well thats supposed to be using vesa isnt it
[08:30] <iwonder|too> unless you are defaulting to too high a default depth
[08:30] <NaNO2x> well
[08:30] <NaNO2x> which is default?
[08:30] <iwonder|too> look in screen section at what identifier says
[08:30] <NaNO2x> it says 24
[08:30] <NaNO2x> which is
[08:30] <NaNO2x> 1680x1050
[08:30] <NaNO2x> the highest
[08:30] <NaNO2x> i think
[08:30] <iwonder|too> yeah vesa won';t do that
[08:30] <NaNO2x> well
[08:30] <NaNO2x> wait
[08:31] <NaNO2x> they all say 1680x1050
[08:31] <NaNO2x> under modes
[08:31] <mrigns> try deleting the entries there, after backupping, and just put "1024x768_60" in there
[08:31] <iwonder|too> crazy autoconfig
[08:31] <NaNO2x> yeah i know
[08:31] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:31] <NaNO2x> one sec
[08:32] <iwonder|too> which card do you have NaNO2x?
[08:32] <NaNO2x> whats the _60 for
[08:32] <NaNO2x> x1600
[08:33] <iwonder|too> 60 hertz i think
[08:33] <NaNO2x> so is it something i need to do?
[08:33] <iwonder|too> 1024x768 running at 60 hertz refresh
[08:33] <iwonder|too> yeah
[08:34] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:34] <NaNO2x> so how cna i start it back up or should i just restarT?
[08:35] <mrigns> restart x
[08:35] <NaNO2x> all right... i did exit
[08:35] <NaNO2x> and its umm
[08:35] <NaNO2x> stuck on a boot script it looks like
[08:35] <NaNO2x> moment
[08:36] <iwonder|too> from root console type kdm
[08:36] <mrigns> then search /var/log/Xorg.0.log for something strange
[08:36] <iwonder|too> or startX if u just want to test X
[08:36] <NaNO2x> see it goes through the like loading of drivers etc
[08:37] <NaNO2x> lets see if it fixed the actual start
[08:37] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:37] <NaNO2x> i think i broke it :P
[08:37] <NaNO2x> and i think i know how
[08:37] <NaNO2x> soooo
[08:37] <iwonder|too> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:38] <NaNO2x> how do you comment something prooperly
[08:38] <iwonder|too> look for (EE)
[08:38] <kraut> moin
[08:38] <NaNO2x> because i just did //
[08:38] <iwonder|too> #
[08:38] <NaNO2x> and i think it broke
[08:38] <NaNO2x> :P
[08:38] <NaNO2x> damit not being c!!
[08:38] <iwonder|too> yeah that probably pissed it off
[08:39] <Jucato> use # instead of //
[08:39] <Jucato> (and // is C++ :P)
[08:39] <NaNO2x> :P
[08:39] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:39] <NaNO2x> anyway
[08:39] <NaNO2x> how do i start it up
[08:39] <NaNO2x> startX
[08:40] <NaNO2x> that seems to simple
[08:40] <Jucato> startx
[08:40] <mrigns> kdm
[08:40] <Jucato> Linux is as case-sensitive as C
[08:40] <NaNO2x> woah
[08:40] <NaNO2x> naw
[08:40] <iwonder|too> you shoulud get an ugly gray screen
[08:40] <NaNO2x> still broken
[08:40] <NaNO2x> so how can i kill it
[08:40] <nonuda> !fglrx
[08:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:40] <iwonder|too> ynless kde starts with X
[08:40] <NaNO2x> still all broke
[08:40] <Jucato> if it didn't start, it won't be alive, so you don't need to kill it...
[08:41] <NaNO2x> i figure i should install the driver
[08:41] <NaNO2x> well
[08:41] <NaNO2x> it started up
[08:41] <NaNO2x> to the light blue screen
[08:41] <NaNO2x> thats twisted and slanted
[08:41] <NaNO2x> and squeeze
[08:41] <NaNO2x> d
[08:41] <Jucato> light blue screen....
[08:41] <iwonder|too> try ctrl alt +
[08:41] <Jucato> BSOD :O
[08:41] <NaNO2x> lol
[08:41] <NaNO2x> kinda
[08:41] <NaNO2x> :P
[08:41] <mrigns> BSOD = ?
[08:41] <NaNO2x> ctrl alt + does nothing
[08:41] <Jucato> Blue Screen Of Death
[08:41] <Jucato> it's a Windows thing :D
[08:41] <NaNO2x> wow...i better not have bsod'ed nix
[08:41] <NaNO2x> :p
[08:42] <mrigns> hehe
[08:42] <iwonder|too> ctrl alt f1-f6 should give console
[08:43] <NaNO2x> wo
[08:43] <NaNO2x> warnings
[08:43] <iwonder|too> but X may hang the pc
[08:43] <r3factored> is there an interface to use if you want to play with on-screen-display activity - i.e. amarok osd?
[08:43] <iwonder|too> warnings are good
[08:43] <NaNO2x> /dev/wacom
[08:43] <NaNO2x> can not find it
[08:43] <iwonder|too> wth is it
[08:43] <mrigns> got the same warning
[08:43] <NaNO2x> yeah?
[08:43] <Jucato> r3factored: the OSD thing is a per-app feature... or are you asking how to configure Amarok's OSD?
[08:44] <mrigns> nothing to do with it
[08:44] <mrigns> i think
[08:44] <NaNO2x> ok so lets see
[08:44] <r3factored> Jucato: no i want to use it for other things.
[08:44] <NaNO2x> where should i check for problems
[08:44] <Jucato> r3factored: ah you have to actually code it afaik
[08:44] <nonuda> damn fglrx seems not work with my ati rage mobility..
[08:44] <r3factored> Jucato: ok do you know what framework it uses? how would i find out more about the interfaces?
[08:44] <iwonder|too> in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:45] <Jucato> r3factored: try #kde or #kde-devel coz I don't know...
[08:45] <mrigns> there is a legend about sacrificing chickens above ati boards solving all problems...
[08:45] <NaNO2x> ok what am i looking for
[08:45] <nonuda> lol
[08:45] <r3factored> cool thanks
[08:46] <david> I'm running Ubuntu 6.10, and trying to run Kqemu. Has anyone had any luck with that?
[08:46] <Jucato> mrigns: that is simply not true. nonuda, don't believe him. you don't need to sacrifice chickens.
[08:46] <Jucato> lambs are the preferred sacrifice
[08:46] <Jucato> but gnus would be best, I heard
[08:46] <iwonder|too> (EE)
[08:46] <mrigns> fool lambs are supposed to fix wireless lan problems
[08:48] <NaNO2x> AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[08:48] <NaNO2x> xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[08:48] <NaNO2x> a lot of those
[08:48] <NaNO2x> for the second
[08:48] <nonuda> !baddevice
[08:48] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[08:48] <NaNO2x> but only one of the first
[08:49] <mrigns> outcomment "dri" in the xorg.conf
[08:49] <NaNO2x> under load?
[08:49] <rob-west> is there a place for unrealircd
[08:49] <mrigns> sec must check
[08:50] <mrigns> yes
[08:50] <rob-west> if so where
[08:50] <NaNO2x> nope x is still fuxored
[08:51] <harmental> hey guys...i get this when apt-get updating:
[08:51] <harmental> GPG error: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org edgy/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[08:51] <harmental> what can i do?
[08:51] <mrigns> get the key
[08:52] <david> _bump_  Anyone able to run kqemu under Kubuntu 6.10?
[08:52] <AniHatzis> I loose KDE Wallet keys every day with no obvious reason (Kubuntu 6.10)
[08:52] <mrigns> NaNO2x: *noideasleft*
[08:52] <NaNO2x> hrm
[08:52] <AniHatzis> Does KDE Wallet only store passwords for a single session?
[08:52] <iwonder|too> NaNO2x:  which card?
[08:52] <NaNO2x> so, any idea about installing api driver through shell
[08:52] <mrigns> x1600
[08:52] <NaNO2x> x1600
[08:53] <iwonder|too> wonder with xorg ati driver will somewhat support it?
[08:53] <david> AniHatzis: I've been having KWallet issues under 6.10 as well.
[08:54] <AniHatzis> david: Did you find a solution? I could not find anything appropriate in Google :(
[08:54] <david> AniHatzis: I haven't lost keys, but it doesn't want to come up with Konq. Still fiddling with it, no answers...
[08:54] <NaNO2x> eyg
[08:54] <NaNO2x> wtf
[08:54] <NaNO2x> it still has (EE) AIGLX: DRI module not loaded
[08:54] <NaNO2x> i commented it with a #
[08:55] <iwonder|too> in xorg.conf near the top?
[08:55] <mrigns> backup and delete
[08:55] <iwonder|too> in modules section
[08:55] <nonuda> i have recently install ati drivers, but x wont start, it said EE No devices detected, in xorg.conf there are 2 section of "Device", once using "ati" as driver and others "fglrx" as driver
[08:55] <AniHatzis> david: My wallet is getting completely empty. And it seems that it doesn't come up then, I have to start it manually.
[08:56] <draeath> I did something stupid... when I installed I accidently set /dev/hda2 (92mb) to /home instead of /boot, and /boot is now on the / FS. Is this faily easy to correct?
[08:56] <david> AniHatzis: I think I'm seeing the same issue with the manual settings. Let me bop over to my wife's session and try somethings...
[08:57] <draeath> If i move the contents of /boot to a new partition and mount that partition to /boot in the future...
[08:58] <draeath> will Grub explode?
[08:58] <iwonder|too> draeath:  the location of /boot doesn't matter just as long as grub.conf coincides
[08:58] <iwonder|too> mine is in /
[08:59] <NaNO2x> X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:59] <NaNO2x> soooooooooooooooo pretty
[08:59] <NaNO2x> :D
[08:59] <NaNO2x> <3
[08:59] <iwonder|too> i have 2 linux partitions.one for swap,one for /
[08:59] <iwonder|too> whatcha fix NaNO2x?
[08:59] <draeath> Hmm, menu.lst doesnt reference itself, it only seems to matter what device / is on
[08:59] <NaNO2x> just took out the lines
[08:59] <NaNO2x> and changed it from that _60
[09:00] <NaNO2x> to just x1024
[09:00] <NaNO2x> ok
[09:00] <NaNO2x> now to install ati drivers
[09:00] <draeath> Good luck >.<
[09:00] <harmental> mrigns: how?
[09:00] <NaNO2x> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[09:00] <NaNO2x> that should help
[09:00] <NaNO2x> :P
[09:01] <draeath> iwonder|too: here goes :D
[09:01] <draeath> iwonder|too: gotta drop to single-user mode though
[09:01] <david> AniHatzis: Still there?
[09:01] <AniHatzis> davide: yes
[09:01] <draeath> What runlevel is root/local only?
[09:02] <david> AniHatzis: It seems to be working now. :-(
[09:02] <draeath> nevermind ill just reboot
[09:02] <david> AniHatzis: One thing I did was import her old wallet in, and fiddle with it a bti.
[09:02] <AniHatzis> david: That's good. Did you learn the reason?
[09:02] <unix_infidel> (w/ apt-get dist-upgrade that is)
[09:03] <david> AniHatzis: That seemed to take care of some of the issues.
[09:03] <seven11> does kubuntu open ports automaticly or is it enough to open the port on the router
[09:03] <AniHatzis> david: I will try with the wallet file I back up yesterday. I will drop a note
[09:04] <david> AniHatzis: Good luck! I'm not an admin, so I probably won't be around. I'm looking for help myself. ;-)
[09:05] <david> Anyone had luck with kqemu? Going... Going...
[09:06] <seven11> do i have to configure iptables or is it set up with the programs
[09:06] <david> Never mind, I'll pound on it some more. Thanks! -oo-
[09:08] <harmental> mrigns: do you know how to get keys back?
[09:08] <mrigns> i dont know where you got it
[09:09] <harmental> mrigns: me neither.......ok...thx anyways.....
[09:17] <noob> when i start up beyl manager the bar on top of the windows disapears can someone help me get it back
[09:22] <NaNO2x> ugh
[09:22] <NaNO2x> this isnt working
[09:24] <[StingRay] > Hi all. Can somebody tell what was the recovery boot option with the livecd? I have broken system files.
[09:24] <eilker> !bind
[09:24] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[09:25] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin.
[09:25] <eilker> !djbDNS
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about djbdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <[StingRay] > !recovery
[09:27] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[09:29] <nonuda_> !ati
[09:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <NaNO2x> psh
[09:29] <NaNO2x> :P
[09:29] <NaNO2x> i got it working
[09:29] <NaNO2x> :P
[09:30] <nonuda_> NaNO2x, did u got ati working?
[09:34] <draeath> That was irritating
[09:35] <draeath> does anyone know why Ubuntu doesn't let me use my PS/2-keyboard but a USB-keyboard works fine?
[09:35] <draeath> isn't that backwards?
[09:35] <draeath> iwonder|too: it worked, soon as I remembered that root(0,4) was actually looking for /boot instead of /
[09:36] <eilker> !tux
[09:36] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[09:39] <iwonder|too> draeath:  death,where doesn't keyboard work?
[09:39] <iwonder|too> in grub or X?
[09:39] <NaNO2x> so yeah iwonder
[09:39] <NaNO2x> it all worked
[09:39] <iwonder|too> cool
[09:39] <NaNO2x> have ati drivers now
[09:39] <NaNO2x> and a huge ass resolution
[09:39] <NaNO2x> and i love it
[09:39] <NaNO2x> :D
[09:40] <iwonder|too> which driver?
[09:40] <NaNO2x> not the open source one
[09:40] <NaNO2x> which i dislike
[09:40] <NaNO2x> but i want one working
[09:40] <iwonder|too> fglxr?
[09:40] <NaNO2x> yeah
[09:40] <draeath> iwonder|too: only in single-user-mode
[09:40] <iwonder|too> never got it to work right on my desktop
[09:40] <draeath> works fine in X, in the TTYs once booted, and in grub
[09:41] <iwonder|too> draeath: i'd guess there is a module loading difference
[09:42] <iwonder|too> i used ati and radeon,both from xorg
[09:42] <iwonder|too> radeon gave best glxgears
[09:42] <iwonder|too> for me
[09:43] <iwonder|too> but like i said i got an older card
[09:43] <iwonder|too> module suporrt was common
[09:44] <iwonder|too> don't need a nice card to look at irc and porn,lol
[09:44] <NaNO2x> :P
[09:44] <NaNO2x> i use blender so this should make things nice
[09:44] <nonuda_> i still have trouble with ati card, can u help me?
[09:45] <draeath> thanks again iwonder|too
[09:46] <NaNO2x> whats the problems nonuda
[09:46] <iwonder|too> nonuda_:  did you try the how-to posted earlier?
[09:47] <nonuda_> hmm..nope...i have try the guide but still not succeed
[09:47] <NaNO2x> whats the problems?
[09:48] <stdin> [StingRay] : hey
[09:48] <nonuda_> fglrxinfo show me OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:48] <nonuda_> aha stdin has wake up
[09:48] <NaNO2x> hmm
[09:48] <stdin> i was playin with apache
[09:50] <nonuda_> stdin, can i run beryl on Ati Rage Mobility? currently direct rendering = no
[09:51] <stdin> nonuda_: think you can, but you'll need the ati binary driver and xgl installed and setup
[09:52] <stdin> nonuda_: not to sure about that card tho
[09:54] <nonuda_> ok..currently i have installed ati driver using envy, and in adept manager i can see xorg-driver-fglrx installed and so is fglrx-kernel-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:54] <premier_> Im having a very heated debate with a friend... Whats the status of linux of macs, esp mactels?
[09:54] <stdin> nonuda_: you either install the one with envy, or the one from ubuntu, not both
[09:55] <nonuda_> i install with envy, but when i checked through adept, i can see they all installed, i didnot use apt-get
[09:56] <nonuda_> the installation seems to works fine, i got no error, but x wont start it said "no devices found"
[09:57] <stdin> nonuda_: try reconfiguring the X server
[09:57] <stdin> nonuda_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:58] <nonuda_> already tried that, if i use fglrx as driver, x wont start, but if i use ati, x will start but with no direct rendering
[09:59] <stdin> nonuda_: try removing the envy driver and the ubuntu one, then just install the ubutnu one
[10:00] <stdin> nonuda_: they could be conflicting
[10:00] <nonuda_> hmm..i see, reasonable enough
[10:01] <nonuda_> ok..fitst i will remove all fglrx* in adept manager..right?
[10:03] <stdin> nonuda_: yeah, but you need to tell envy to remove the driver too
[10:03] <nonuda_> ok..brb
[10:07] <epimeth> stdin: whatup?
[10:07] <stdin> trying to get my head around the apahce config
[10:07] <nonuda_> hmm envy said : EBVY ERROR: envy does not recognise your card as compatible with any version of the driver.......detection failed!!
[10:07] <genii> premier_: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[10:08] <nonuda_> EBVY=ENVY
[10:08] <epimeth> stdin: what, specifically?
[10:09] <stdin> nonuda_: maybe your card is too old, ati don't make a legacy driver line nvidia do
[10:09] <stdin> epimeth: I decides to make a wiki, using moinmoin, but it's being weird :P
[10:10] <nonuda_> yes its an old one, i was once installed ati through envy by choosing manual installation, then choose the legacy driver
[10:10] <genii> I'd like to see some wiki that you don't have to learn a new formatting language. Just copy in some html or so
[10:10] <Ayabara> anyone running a dual screen setup with an ati card? I have some problems with this. when I maximize my window on the secondary screen, some of it disappears behind my panels.
[10:11] <epimeth> stdin: dunno moinmoin....
[10:12] <stdin> !info moinmoin-common
[10:12] <ubotu> moinmoin-common: Python clone of WikiWiki - common data. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.3-1ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 1537 kB, installed size 10272 kB
[10:14] <epimeth> cool....
[10:14] <epimeth> whats the problem?
[10:16] <nonuda_> stdin, i got the legacy ati driver from what envy links give me, so i will never can't run beryl on my ati card?
[10:16] <stdin> it keeps trying to read it's config from somewhere that doesn't exist :p
[10:16] <epimeth> lol
[10:16] <stdin> nonuda_: try using it with xgl, if you can get xgl working you can run beryl
[10:17] <epimeth> stdin... you using beryl?
[10:17] <nonuda_> xgl? where can i get it?
[10:17] <stdin> nonuda_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[10:18] <stdin> epimeth: yeah, when xorg isn't broke (I'm on feisty)
[10:19] <unix_infidel> lol.
[10:19] <unix_infidel> yaay, less than a month till final release :P
[10:19] <unix_infidel> less than a day dill first beta :P
[10:19] <unix_infidel> and xorg is broken.
[10:19] <stdin> was, because feisty is on xorg 7.2 now
[10:20] <stdin> and it took a while to get it all updated
[10:21] <epimeth> is the settings manager working for you?
[10:21] <epimeth> I've got 2 separate installs (1 feisty, 1 edgy) and neither works!
[10:22] <stdin> yeah, it's working here
[10:22] <epimeth> arg
[10:22] <epimeth> wtf
[10:23] <stdin> what version are you on? I have 0.2.1-0ubuntu1
[10:23] <stdin> (from feisty/universe)
[10:23] <epimeth> how do I check that?
[10:24] <stdin> "apt-cache policy beryl-manager" should tell you
[10:24] <jack__> hi
[10:25] <epimeth> 0.2.0~0beryl1 (edgy)
[10:25] <epimeth> I'll check the feisty one....
[10:25] <jack__> is somebody experienced with guarddog?
[10:25] <stdin> looks like that's the latest edgy version
[10:29] <epimeth> stdin: do you know anything about locales?
[10:29] <epimeth> stdin: a flash (too late) of inspiration hit me
[10:30] <stdin> epimeth: some, not much tho
[10:30] <epimeth> stdin: seems its a locale problem...
[10:30] <epimeth> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11309/
[10:31] <epimeth> I'm consistantly getting those annoying perl locale errors, too... every time I upgrade or, really, do anything with packages
[10:31] <epimeth> and !locale is useless
[10:34] <stdin> epimeth: does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" generate some locales ?
[10:35] <epimeth> yes... but it doesn't set my default locale properly, so the perl errors appear again and again
[10:35] <stdin> what does "echo $LANG" show ?
[10:36] <epimeth> en_US.ISO-8859-15
[10:36] <epimeth> even tho I've explicitly said I want UTF-8
[10:36] <genii> so western european
[10:36] <epimeth> hebrew, actually :-)
[10:37] <genii> hmm
[10:37] <unix_infidel> wont take ikernel file eh, well booyah.
[10:37] <stdin> epimeth: so you close the locale with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" ?
[10:37] <epimeth> yup
[10:37] <epimeth> utf-8
[10:37] <genii> You may need i18 support
[10:37] <epimeth> and nada
[10:37] <epimeth> its like I never even ran the thing
[10:38] <stdin> epimeth: and you have ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard and kubuntu-desktop installed?
[10:38] <epimeth> I *did* somehow manage to fix LANGUAGE="en_IL"... which made no sense... it is now he_IL, but I really want it to be en_US...
[10:39] <epimeth> ummm....maybe?  I didn't explicitly install any of them.  lemme check aptitude
[10:39] <epimeth> unless there's a faster way?
[10:39] <epimeth> apt-cache something?
[10:40] <epimeth> got them all, yes
[10:40] <stdin> epimeth: dpkg -l|egrep '(ubuntu-minimal|ubuntu-standard|kubuntu-desktop)'
[10:40] <mjungo> Hi everyone. Im a Newbie and need some help finetuning Samba please. Someone please help me.
[10:40] <epimeth> spkg -l = list all installed packages... good to know
[10:40] <mjungo> I searched the docs and I'm getting mor na dmore confued.
[10:41] <stdin> epimeth: what's in  /etc/environment ?
[10:41] <genii> !info hebubuntu
[10:41] <ubotu> Package hebubuntu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:42] <genii> Hmm
[10:42] <epimeth> I *swear* I changed that!
[10:42] <epimeth> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11310/
[10:42] <stdin> epimeth: LANGUAGE does nothing, you need to set LANG
[10:43] <stdin> epimeth: it's normally done by reconfiguring localeconf
[10:43] <epimeth> changed them.. do I have to restart?
[10:43] <epimeth> or just log out/log in?
[10:43] <stdin> login/out should do it
[10:43] <mjungo> is there any _kubuntu_ specific documentation for setting up samba with edgy?
[10:43] <hackdaddy_> what were the commands to fix a broke synapse upgrade?
[10:43] <epimeth> brb
[10:44] <stdin> !samba
[10:44] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:44] <mjungo> ubotu: thaks I will try again
[10:44] <hackdaddy_> so far i have "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:45] <hackdaddy_> but the files are locked
[10:45] <stdin> hackdaddy_: error about /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[10:46] <exence_> bonjour
[10:46] <hackdaddy_> yes, stdin
[10:46] <stdin> !aptfix
[10:46] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:46] <exence_> savez vous comment modifier la resolution ecran sous kubuntu
[10:47] <hackdaddy_> thanks, stdin
[10:47] <hackdaddy_> !aptfix
[10:47] <genii> If synapse is still running you won't be able to run anything like apt-get or dpkg or so on
[10:47] <stdin> !fr | exence_
[10:47] <ubotu> exence_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:47] <SilverSurfer> ahah
[10:48] <SilverSurfer> exence_ -> xorg.com
[10:48] <SilverSurfer> exence_ -> xorg.conf
[10:49] <epimeth> nope... looks like I need to restart
[10:49] <epimeth> grrr
[10:49] <epimeth> also, whats with pacakges being held back from upgrade?
[10:50] <epimeth> libgphoto2-2 libgphoto2-2-dev ?/?
[10:50] <stdin> epimeth: is that with apt-get/aptitude upgrade or dist-upgrade ?
[10:50] <epimeth> upgrade
[10:50] <epimeth> ahhh
[10:50] <stdin> try with dist-upgrade
[10:51] <epimeth> dist-upgrade works
[10:51] <epimeth> why does one and not the other?
[10:51] <stdin> !apt
[10:51] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:51] <stdin> look at the info there
[10:51] <stdin> there's a difference between the tow
[10:51] <stdin> *two
[10:52] <hackdaddy_> thanks, stdin and others :-)
[10:54] <raf> goodmorning. i have installed kernel 2.6.20.3 custom on feisty and i canot complete a nvidia install using the installer...what can i do? has anyone had this issue?
[10:55] <stdin> raf: feisty support/questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[10:55] <genii> raf Maybe try #ubuntu+1
[10:55] <genii> stdin Heh :)
[10:55] <mjungo> Hi Im getting nuts here. Can someone help me finetune my samba on Kubuntu 10.6 please, please!
[10:55] <kubuntu> how to play m3 in kubuntu
[10:55] <kubuntu> mp3
[10:56] <stdin> !mp3
[10:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:56] <mjungo> kubuntu: you can also install and use automatix to handle that.
[10:57] <stdin> !automatix | mjungo, kubuntu
[10:57] <ubotu> mjungo, kubuntu: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:58] <kubuntu> is their any other mp3 player for kubuntu
[10:58] <__-osh-__> !beryl
[10:58] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:58] <mjungo> stdin: I read through the documentation on the Samba thing and XP sees the server but I can not log on for the life of me. how do I get around this.
[10:58] <stdin> kubuntu: most/all audio apps will play mp3s if you have the condec installed
[10:59] <nonuda_> stdin, how if i put *.deb in /var/cache/apt/archieves, does adep manager still downloading the file from the web?
[10:59] <mjungo> stdin, Kubuntu: and automatix gives you the codec files.
[10:59] <kubuntu> is thier a player compatible fo kubuntu
[10:59] <stdin> mjungo: try setting "security = SHARE" in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:59] <mjungo> stdin: will ahve a look.
[10:59] <stdin> mjungo: automatix is evil, don't use it
[11:00] <epimeth> mjungo: security = ?
[11:00] <stdin> nonuda_: not if they have the right file name
[11:01] <nonuda_> aha ok..i'm going to copy all of *.deb into my laptop..and doing some update tonight without the net..ok gtg bye
[11:01] <stdin> epimeth: like this http://pastebin.ca/404877
[11:02] <roly_> how can i resize a kubuntu lvm on my hd
[11:02] <epimeth> stdin: I was asking what he set it is :-)
[11:03] <stdin> epimeth: defaults to user
[11:03] <roly_> how can i resize a kubuntu lvm on my hd
[11:04] <mjungo> stdin: thanks that worked. Makes my day.
[11:05] <[pyro] > *yawn* hi guys
[11:05] <epimeth> stdin: I've set up a pdc using samba... now *that* was a nightmare
[11:05] <genii> epimeth Yes, been there :)
[11:05] <epimeth> stdin: yes... I know!  damnit, now I *know* I need coffee
[11:06] <[pyro] > ah, thanks :)
[11:06] <epimeth> see you guys in a bit... there's a cute barrista down the block who's about to have her day brightened!
[11:06] <[pyro] > genii: i have a TX2 card on its way :)
[11:06] <genii> heh If I had a virtual cafe I'd be virtually rich :)
[11:07] <genii> [pyro]  Cool :) They always worked for me, even under old FreeBSD etc
[11:07] <unix_infidel> barrista ftw :)
[11:09] <genii> Jucato Thanks muchly :)
[11:09] <Jucato> is that a virtual thanks too? :D
[11:09] <genii> (tips heavily in virtual Canadian dollars)
[11:10] <kubuntu> amarok
[11:11] <Jucato> konqueror
[11:11] <Jucato> oops forgot the <-- :D
[11:12] <mjungo> stdin: one slight problem remains with my smaba. It is read only although it says in the /etc/samba/smb.conf read only - no Any pointer how I can share it so I can write to it from Windoze?
[11:14] <stdin> mjungo: not sure, I'm not a samba expert (at all), I use swat to configure samba
[11:14] <mjungo> how did you get swat to run? I sistalled it but it does not run for some rason.
[11:15] <stdin> mjungo: make sure you have inetutils-inetd installed
[11:15] <stdin> mjungo: or any inetd server
[11:20] <nomad111> can any1 recommend a decent c ide
[11:20] <nomad111> not c++
[11:20] <nomad111> just c
[11:21] <Jucato> kdevelop can do C too
[11:21] <nomad111> wasnt kdevelop made for writing code related to kde
[11:21] <waylandbill> nomad111: kdevelop will do C since gcc will compile both.
[11:21] <nomad111> or is it general purpose
[11:22] <Jucato> it's multilingual
[11:22] <waylandbill> nomad111: It's good for both kde and other programming tasks.
[11:22] <nomad111> cool ill grab it now
[11:22] <genii> it's good for all kinds of things
[11:23] <nomad111> i cant use eclipse/cdt under windows
[11:23] <nomad111> doesnt work for me
[11:24] <genii> nomad Normally what are you using in Windoze?
[11:24] <genii> ^nomad111^
[11:24] <nomad111> everything related to my university studies
[11:24] <nomad111> i use it coz i cant find equivalent programs in kubuntu
[11:24] <genii> nomad111 I mean as a compiler frontend
[11:25] <nomad111> i used to use dev-c++ which uses gcc
[11:25] <roland_> why is kde on kubuntu slow
[11:25] <nomad111> and i was having trouble with it
[11:26] <waylandbill> nomad111: which programs are you using that you can't find a linux replacement for?
[11:27] <nomad111> waylandbill: mathematica
[11:28] <nomad111> waylandbill: c#, vb.net... (ms props)
[11:28] <nomad111> waylandbill: office 2007
[11:29] <waylandbill> mono is the implementation of .net, which you probably know and vb.net is being developed currently.
[11:29] <RedIsDead> hi
[11:30] <waylandbill> there's a 2007 of M$ office? I didn't know there was past office xp. ;-) open office does just about everything I need to do.
[11:30] <RedIsDead> I updated kubuntu yesterday and now kopete segfault
[11:30] <[pyro] > thats better
[11:31] <genii> There is a linux mathematica
[11:31] <nomad111> ill have a look at that then
[11:31] <nomad111> genii: i want matlab too, NOT octave lol
[11:32] <nomad111> there is a linux version of that
[11:32] <nomad111> but i havent gotten around to getting it
[11:32] <genii> nomad111: http://www.wolfram.com/news/presslinux.html
[11:33] <nomad111> ye i just saw that
[11:33] <genii> Hmm C sharp might be an obstacle
[11:33] <epimeth> anybody read a new kind of science? (wolfram)
[11:35] <nomad111> genii: do u develop code
[11:36] <genii> nomad111: I wrote some code, yes
[11:37] <nomad111> c?
[11:37] <tdn> Hi. I have a Asus P5N32 mainboard. On board is a wireless access point. I would like to enable this access point. But I do not know how to do this in Linux or if it is even supported. Can I please get some advice on this or maybe just some pointers to information about enabling on board access points in Linux in general?
[11:37] <sandro__> hi all .. i have a dual boot machine (grub) with windows and kubuntu 6.1 ... i just "found out" my linux mounts the windows harddrive (os on diff hdds not partitions) to /media/sdb1 .. thing is that harddrive is ntfs formatted/used .. is it "save" to write on that drive ? cause as i said the mount "is just there" and its NOT (ro)
[11:37] <genii> nomad111: fortran77,c,c+,pascal,lisp, and some others
[11:38] <epimeth> damn, genii... old(ish) school :-)
[11:38] <genii> mainly C these days but no huge projects
[11:38] <genii> epimeth I didn't even mention assembly LOL
[11:38] <waylandbill> c,c++,perl,php maybe python some day. :-)
[11:38] <epimeth> isn't that a given, tho :-)
[11:39] <genii> Jucato :)
[11:40] <sandro__> (pity fortran developer (backus) just died btw)
[11:40] <nomad111> sandro__: so ive heard
[11:40] <nomad111> i want to learn python one day
[11:42] <nomad111> genii: so are u familiar with kdevelop
[11:42] <nomad111> genii: hav u used it a lot, coz im getting an error
[11:42] <epimeth> nomad111: http://www.python.org/  today is as good a day as any!
[11:43] <genii> nomad111: I'm usually writing my code in a text editor then just compiling at commandline
[11:43] <sandro__> no mean to bother you guys - just repeating my question in a different way :) ::: am i running into trouble (i wont test!) when writing to a mounted ntfs drive with kubuntu 6.1 ?!
[11:43] <epimeth> sandro__: depends on which ntfs drivers you are using....
[11:43] <nomad111> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11315/, i think this error is not related to kdevelop after reading through it
[11:43] <epimeth> pastebin your /etc/fstab
[11:44] <genii> nomad111: OK, I'll have a look
[11:44] <nomad111> genii: thx
[11:45] <_4strO> yop yop
[11:45] <epimeth> my mate's come over.... I'm off to make lunch
[11:45] <epimeth> see ya guys later!
[11:45] <Jucato> you're mating? O>o
[11:45] <Jucato> O.o
[11:45] <Jucato> aw he left :P
[11:46] <sandro__> need a relog brb
[11:46] <genii> nomad111: Are you in #ubuntu-programming? If so I will post something there
[11:47] <nomad111> ok ill join there
[11:47] <nomad111> genii: im there
[11:47] <genii> OK 1 moment
[11:51] <nomad111> genii: i figured it out
[11:51] <nomad111> genii: needed to install libtool
[11:52] <genii> You can also pass those other things in the make command
[11:54] <MinceR> hay
[11:55] <faidillinger> hi there, i am trying to get the last version of Kino, can someone please tell me what repository do i have to add please ?
[11:55] <MinceR> i don't know which program this bug is in (probably multiple), but with a kde+beryl setup, adept_notifier often refuses to go into the tray and exists as a separate window instead; what's worse, if it finds that there are upgradable packages, it gets out of the tray and puts X in a state where all keys (even ctrl+alt+f1, ctrl+alt+backspace, ctrl+alt+del and numlock) are ignored until i quit adept_notifier (with the mouse) -- at which moment all the ke
[11:55] <MinceR> (did my message get cut off?)
[11:56] <Jucato> yes it was cutoff
[11:56] <MinceR> where?
[11:56] <chijin> at which moment all the ke
[11:58] <madmax> !dialup
[11:58] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[11:58] <MinceR> -- at which moment all the keys are played back
[11:58] <MinceR> (that's probably the strangest thing about it)
[11:59] <Jucato> you could probably as around in #ubuntu-effects if some people are experiencing the same thing... I vaguely remember something like that last month
[11:59] <alexicon> morning people
[11:59] <alexicon> when you do a usermod, how do you force the update of that? do you have to logout/in?
[12:00] <alexicon> or is there a way around that
[12:01] <alexicon> MinceR: i get the same issue on both my beryl installations, sometimes my volume taskbar icon flies out too... sometimes they all stay in @_@ im sure someones working on it
[12:01] <alexicon> i dont have the issues with it messing up X however *_*
[12:01] <MinceR> i'm not too worried about those, i'm worried about the keyboard issue
[12:01] <alexicon> nod
[12:02] <alexicon> are you on nvidia or ati MinceR
[12:02] <alexicon> anyone know about usermod?
[12:02] <alexicon> and while im about :P anyone know about apache(/rails)
[12:03] <MinceR> nvidia
[12:04] <alexicon> MinceR: what do you mean when you quit all the keys are played back
[12:05] <MinceR> what i perceived is that i tried to open terminals with a key bound to do it and nothing happened; when i quit adept_notifier, they began to start
[12:05] <MinceR> i assume this is due to the keys being replayed as nothing happened before
[12:05] <alexicon> ok so it locks the system then does the executions after its freed up again
[12:05] <alexicon> but why the lock eh..
[12:06] <alexicon> hrmm
[12:06] <alexicon> did you change much of the beryl-manager settings MinceR?
[12:06] <MinceR> note that even ctrl+alt+backspace was ignored beforehand
[12:06] <MinceR> i probably changed lots of them
[12:07] <IR8100> Hey everyone, coud
[12:07] <MinceR> (i didn't wait till it could have effect after closing adept_notifier since the many terminals starting slowed down the system)
[12:07] <IR8100> could anyone tell me how to add a new wireless connection on kubuntu
[12:07] <IR8100> ?
[12:07] <alexicon> you can save your beryl profile and try using a default one and see if you still have those issues
[12:07] <alexicon> i havent been about much lately so dunno if its a common problem or what
[12:07] <IR8100> I know the ssid and the password of the network
[12:08] <alexicon> IR8100: you try using wlassistant?
[12:08] <IR8100> yeah but the network I want to use doesnt apper
[12:08] <IR8100> appear
[12:08] <IR8100> I think its a hidden ssid
[12:08] <alexicon> ok
[12:08] <faidillinger> is there a repository for cinelerra, kino or kdenlive please ???
[12:08] <alexicon> other networks appear?
[12:09] <IR8100> [alexicon]  yeah
[12:09] <alexicon> whoa cinerella? havent used that program in years heh :P
[12:09] <MinceR> alexicon: i think i'll try but it's hard to reproduce
[12:09] <alexicon> IR8100: use iwconfig to set the details
[12:09] <IR8100> anyway this network is hidden in windows too
[12:09] <faidillinger> lol
[12:10] <IR8100> [alexicon]  I used sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "EHU"
[12:10] <IR8100> but I dont know how to set the password there
[12:10] <alexicon> ah
[12:10] <alexicon> its
[12:10] <alexicon> sudo iwconfig eth1 key restricted "KEY"
[12:10] <alexicon> just put the hex value in with no quotes and it should be fine
[12:10] <IR8100> but that would set the key for that essid?
[12:11] <alexicon> yep
[12:11] <alexicon> then run dhclient to connect after you set the password
[12:11] <IR8100> without saying that its for the EHU essid?
[12:11] <IR8100> weird
[12:11] <alexicon> run the essid first
[12:11] <alexicon> if you run iwconfig eth1 essid EHU
[12:11] <alexicon> then do just iwconfig
[12:11] <alexicon> you will see the iface is set to EHU
[12:12] <alexicon> then just set the password and it adds to that configuration
[12:12] <IR8100> ok so, I type iwconfig eth1 essid "EHU" then iwconfig eth1 key restricted "KEY"
[12:12] <IR8100> and that's it?
[12:12] <alexicon> then sudo dhclient
[12:12] <alexicon> that should get you an ip if its using dhcp that is
[12:13] <alexicon> there are some better network managers IR8100
[12:13] <alexicon> kwifimanager is pretty good
[12:13] <chijin> i really like knetworkmanager
[12:13] <IR8100> yeah but I cant get it till I get connected
[12:13] <alexicon> i did too til i broke it lol
[12:13] <IR8100> so I need to set a internet connction first
[12:13] <alexicon> true true IR8100 :P
[12:14] <IR8100> oki
[12:14] <alexicon> better?
[12:14] <IR8100> I will try it then
[12:14] <alexicon> ok
[12:14] <IR8100> one more question
[12:14] <alexicon> yep
[12:15] <IR8100> I know that the key is "EUSKALHERRIKO" how the hell I turn that to hex?
[12:15] <cHr> yo
[12:15] <alexicon> try it in plain text
[12:15] <alexicon> im not sure tho
[12:15] <alexicon> the router should tell you
[12:15] <IR8100> and how would it be in plain text? between quotes too?
[12:15] <alexicon> if you can get on the router you can see the hex key usually
[12:16] <alexicon> well try both with and without the quotes
[12:16] <alexicon> see if it works
[12:16] <alexicon> you can also try iwconfig eth1 key on
[12:16] <alexicon> but it should know you want it on when you configure it :P
[12:16] <alexicon> also
[12:17] <alexicon> if you have the hex value for the routers access point, that could help if the essid is hidden
[12:21] <[WaZ] > hey
[12:21] <[WaZ] > where can I get the PFP signature for KDE 4 repository?
[12:24] <waylandbill> [Waz] : may be on a keyserver.
[12:24] <Jucato> [WaZ] : from the same page where you got the repository from. the kubuntu.org announcement page
[12:24] <[WaZ] > okay ill dig deeper then, ty
[12:27] <[WaZ] > Jucato: euh I son't see any PGP signature link...
[12:28] <Jucato> [WaZ] : which page are you looking at?
[12:28] <[WaZ] > http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.3.php
[12:29] <Jucato> ah.
[12:30] <Jucato> [WaZ] : use the key from this page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[12:30] <[WaZ] > ty
[12:49] <XYTTY> hi
[12:49] <mjungo> I'm stuggeling to get a sama share to make it writable. I'm reading doumentation trying out things but its is not changing.
[12:50] <mjungo> Where is the best place to go to get help with that. Uning kuuntu 10.6
[12:52] <Orange1> whats cmd to find out my videocard?
[12:54] <menisk> Should the hotkey Shift+Backspace be ending my seesion, and how do I change the hotkey?
[12:54] <nomad111> does any1 the name of the package containing windows fonts
[12:54] <LinuxWorld> anyone know where to get automatix
[12:54] <LinuxWorld> their website is offline
[12:54] <eeos> hi everybody
[12:55] <Orange1> LinuxWorld: their website goes down alot... get it when its back up
[12:55] <Orange1> !automatrix | LinuxWorld
[12:55] <ubotu> LinuxWorld: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:55] <LinuxWorld> do you have it
[12:55] <Orange1> LinuxWorld: i do not
[12:56] <eeos> how do you switch on the php debugger in php.ini on kubuntu?
[12:56] <menisk> How do I edit hotkeys?
[12:57] <menisk> Ah, found it.
[12:57] <nomad111> !font
[12:57] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:58] <LinuxWorld> automatix is great tool and simplifies linux for ordinary users...my friends have best experiences with it----anyways thank you for kind help
[12:58] <menisk> Should Shift + Backpace end my session? It seams to but isn't in the hotkey list.
[12:59] <menisk> seems*
[12:59] <LinuxWorld> had the hope that someone could send me the file, but ok ;-S
[01:00] <menisk> Should Shift + Backpace end my session? It seems to but isn't in the hotkey list
[01:07] <alexicon> for ubuntu is the apache configuration at /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[01:08] <chijin> yes
[01:10] <alexicon> ty
[01:13] <ubuntu> hi
[01:22] <ubuntu__> will i run into problems using a 20+ gig directory on a fat partition?
[01:23] <waylandbill> ubuntu__: directory should be okay. A single file can't be over 4 gig.
[01:24] <ubuntu__> thanks
[01:30] <JuJuBee> Can anybody direct me to a good ubuntu how-to on setting up nis?  I wish to start using a server for user accounts rather than creating them on workstation.
[01:44] <IR8100> Hey
[01:45] <Arkaitz> Hey
[01:45] <Arkaitz> Someone could tell me from where I can download the ubuntu-desktop for kubuntu?
[01:45] <Arkaitz> (I cannot do it from Kubuntu)
[01:46] <Arkaitz> so I would like to download the package in windows, save it to a flash drive
[01:46] <Arkaitz> and then Install it on kubuntu
[01:46] <Arkaitz> but I dont know where to get it
[01:46] <waylandbill> Arkaitz: this may help: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[01:47] <shadowhywind> hay all
[01:47] <ubuntu> test test, this is a test
[01:47] <aspedia> I have an USB Headset from logitech pluged in
[01:48] <waylandbill> ubuntu: it failed. ;-)
[01:48] <aspedia> but I have no sound on headset
[01:48] <shadowhywind> tar'ing something and untarring it in windows wills screw up the files correct?
[01:48] <aspedia> its found correctly when I do lsusb
[01:48] <aspedia> can someone help?
[01:49] <Arkaitz> [waylandbill]  I told you I was using windows right now, I CANNOT use Kubuntu (It doesnt connect to the internet I dont Know why)
[01:52] <fyrmedic> How do I set up wlan0 to access an ad-hoc network?
[01:52] <fyrmedic> I tried using swscanner and Wireless lan manager without success
[01:53] <fyrmedic> How do I set up wlan0 to access an ad-hoc network?
[01:54] <evoc> today I try to mount /dev/brain but no device is found
[01:56] <bartist> hi all
[01:56] <bartist> i can't login in kde
[01:56] <bartist> i can in console
[01:56] <bartist> i wish to copy my home folder to my ipod to re-install
[01:57] <bartist> i type: copy /home/'username' /media/ipod/backup
[01:57] <bartist> but it does not copy!!
[02:08] <dystopianray> has anyone tried running 'tome' in edgy? it doesn't work here, it creates 7 windows and then doesn't do anything
[02:20] <ml--> is there a keyboard combination for "show desktop"?
[02:22] <Jucato> ml--: Ctrl+Alt+D
[02:22] <Jucato> you can change it in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[02:24] <PhinnFort> how can i see what status a program returns (0, 1, 20, etc.)?
[02:27] <PhinnFort> !paste
[02:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:38] <Ryiel> !utf-8
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utf-8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Ryiel> !locales
[02:38] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:39] <Owean> is there any metapackage depending on all the necessary codecs for watching movies?
[02:40] <PhinnFort> !divx
[02:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:43] <hayden_> how do i change from using the gdm to the kdm
[02:46] <AniHatzis> Kubuntu 6.10: Settings > System Admin > User Management (User Account Editor). Then click on "Administration Mode". Screen gets empty, but I'm not prompted to enter su password (as I'm used from other admin dialogs). Anyone has the same problem?
[02:48] <eilker> !server
[02:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[02:53] <PhinnFort> !client
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about client - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <bxnp> could somebody test a website for me cause this website breaks my system, i have to do a hard reboot
[02:56] <PhinnFort> bxnp: bring it on
[02:56] <waylandbill> :)
[02:57] <PhinnFort> opera shall konquer the earth
[02:57] <PhinnFort> or something
[02:57] <bxnp> http://www.daniel3d.com/pepeland/misc/3dstuff/ilum_normal/%5Bpepeland%5D-iluminating_with_normal_nodes.htm
[02:57] <bxnp> you have to wacht the tutorial PhinnFort
[02:57] <bxnp> its a blender tutorial, but what happends with your system
[02:57] <Jucato> might want to also ask #khtml people to test
[02:57] <PhinnFort> bxnp: just have to load up opera first
[02:58] <bxnp> good cause i allso use opera
[02:58] <PhinnFort> is it flash?
[02:58] <bxnp> yes
[02:58] <PhinnFort> ah...
[02:58] <PhinnFort> what version of flash do you have?
[02:58] <bxnp> but i never had problems with flash
[02:58] <bxnp> the lastest PhinnFort
[02:58] <PhinnFort> oki
[02:58] <bxnp> you have to completely watch the tutorial and see what happens
[02:59] <PhinnFort> yaoki
[02:59] <PhinnFort> my computer is getting a bit laggy, but I think that has with the fact that  i'm installing stuff...
[03:00] <bxnp> well my system became nearly at the end of the tutorials to a crawling,. and my hd starts spinning
[03:00] <PhinnFort> can ijust skip to the end
[03:00] <bxnp> no
[03:00] <PhinnFort> ?
[03:00] <PhinnFort> ok
[03:00] <bxnp> watch it fully
[03:00] <bxnp> besides that its fun, maybe you want to use blender one day
[03:01] <Jucato> blender is cool
[03:01] <Jucato> it's what got me introduced to Linux :)
[03:01] <Jucato> even though to this date I haven't really used it much lol
[03:01] <bxnp> lol, same overhere
[03:01] <bxnp> and PhinnFort
[03:01] <PhinnFort> yeah
[03:02] <bxnp> did you watch it
[03:02] <PhinnFort> :D
[03:02] <PhinnFort> i'm watching it now
[03:02] <bxnp> no he is a new one
[03:02] <PhinnFort> kinda wants me to pick up blender again
[03:02] <bxnp> he is a very famous animatior
[03:02] <PhinnFort> *makes me want
[03:02] <bxnp> and he is testing blender a bit
[03:02] <CarinArr> blender schlender
[03:03] <Jucato> who's a very famous animatior?
[03:03] <PhinnFort> me?
[03:03] <PhinnFort> i've finished the tutorial, and nothing happened
[03:03] <Jucato> really?! wow
[03:03] <PhinnFort> i'm kidding
[03:03] <PhinnFort> i think bxnp misunderstood what i meant;)
[03:03] <PhinnFort> but the tutorial didn't do any harm
[03:03] <bigdad1e> can someone in here help me with fixing/building a website?
[03:04] <bxnp> oke, well then its a local problem i guess
[03:04] <bxnp> wich kubuntu version are you using
[03:04] <PhinnFort> and i'm even running lots of stupid programs (for testing) in the bg, like firefox and azureus
[03:04] <PhinnFort> 7.04
[03:04] <PhinnFort> or whatever feisty is
[03:04] <bxnp> oke i am at 6.10
[03:04] <PF-Away> but now i'm going to eat dinner
[03:04] <PF-Away> what version of opera?
[03:04] <PF-Away> 9.10?
[03:05] <Erunno> Hi all, I'm currently fighting with KDevelop's automatic indentation. It keeps ignoring my customized settings in the project options.
[03:05] <Erunno>  It seems only to work with the indentation settings under "Extras". Any possible solutions to this problem ?
[03:06] <CarinArr> i've used custom settings before Erunno
[03:06] <CarinArr> never had any problems as far as i can remember
[03:06] <CarinArr> tho this is a while ago, i don't use kdevelop anymore
[03:07] <bigdad1e> what is a good program to build websites?
[03:07] <bxnp> bigdad1e: use quanta
[03:07] <starter> hello, please tell me how to turn off the bouncing-icon effect when I click to activate any icon? I think I checked every option in the system settings
[03:07] <bxnp> bigdad1e: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[03:08] <bxnp> you can aptitude install quanta bigdad1e
[03:08] <bigdad1e> already done
[03:08] <bigdad1e> lol
[03:09] <Erunno> I'm also getting a "Folder does not exist or is not readable" error message whenever I open the project settings.
[03:09] <bxnp> oke and what do you think of it bigdad1e
[03:09] <jhutchins> starter: It's something like startup notification.
[03:09] <Erunno> Although I'm pretty sure that both things don't apply (it sure is readable and does exist :P )
[03:09] <bigdad1e> bxnp: its downloading now and installing
[03:09] <sampan> starter  hit alt-F2  ... type "kcontrol" (without quotes), then under appearance & themes find "launch feedback" and put it to "no busy cursor"
[03:10] <starter> sampan, thanks!
[03:10] <jhutchins> Erunno: You might check in #kde - that's not a kubuntu specific problem.
[03:10] <sampan> starter  you're welcome -- that bugged me for hours too until i found it :D
[03:10] <bxnp> did you use apt-get or aptitude
[03:10] <mastercad> moin
[03:10] <Erunno> jhutchins: Will do.
[03:11] <jhutchins> sampan: Thanks, been too long since my initial setup.
[03:11] <bigdad1e> bxnp: it looks relitively simple. thank you
[03:11] <Jucato> Erunno: or #kdevelop
[03:11] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, for a live cd demo of beryl, sabayon isn't bad (sorry for the heresy :)
[03:11] <Erunno> Jucato: Kdevelop seems to be in some kind of statis.
[03:11] <bxnp> its a very powerfull webbuilder bigdad1e
[03:11] <sampan> jhutchins  i had the same problem when i upgraded -- changed it on dapper and then went months and forgot how to turn it off when i upgraded to edgy -- such an annoying thing and so hard to find!
[03:12] <starter> ah damnit I thought the option might be erased from the kubuntu system settings :)
[03:12] <starter> thanks again!
[03:12] <starter> stay well.
[03:13] <gissi> Good day all
[03:14] <gissi> Did anyone experienced a problem with Amarok on Feisty? When I add anything to the playlist it hangs
[03:17] <bigdad1e> bxnp: thanks works like a charm
[03:19] <bxnp> cool, and now tell me bigdad1e what kind off website are you going to make, is it going to be the next youtube :)
[03:20] <Jucato> !away > NSCAD_Nathan
[03:21] <bigdad1e> bxnp: no its something for my dad to sell his paintings. i already have it up but its shitty. www.normscustompaintings.com is what i did free hand but i think using somehting like this would make it easier and faster for me
[03:21] <hak5fan> hi does anyone know the php function/command used to redirect to a html page? Maybe someone knows of a better place to ask?
[03:22] <bigdad1e> bxnp: you can tell me how shitty it is. lol thats with maybe 2 days of learning html under my belt
[03:22] <bxnp> bigdad1e: why dont you use a system for that
[03:22] <bxnp> there are enough open source solution for selling goods on the web
[03:22] <bigdad1e> bxnp: ya but i wanted something that i could call mine you know?
[03:23] <bxnp> well you could then write your own template
[03:23] <bigdad1e> bxnp: ebay is too simple for me
[03:23] <bxnp> to make it yours
[03:23] <bigdad1e> if i do something like ebay i dont feel like i earned the money bc it takes a few mins to do that
[03:23] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: how about joomla?
[03:23] <PF-Away> !joomla
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <PF-Away> !mambo
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mambo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> welcome to the american dream - earning money for doing nothing :D
[03:24] <bigdad1e> PF-away: whats joomla?
[03:24] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: it's a cms
[03:24] <PF-Away> Content Management System
[03:25] <PF-Away> with shopping-cart modules and everything else you might need
[03:25] <PF-Away> http://www.joomla.org/
[03:25] <bigdad1e> PF-away: ya?
[03:25] <bigdad1e> PF-away: free open source app?
[03:25] <PF-Away> yup
[03:25] <PF-Away> their slogan is "Because Open Source Matters", or something like that
[03:25] <bigdad1e> PF-away: simple?
[03:25] <PF-Away> yeah
[03:25] <PF-Away> clicky-clicky interface
[03:26] <PF-Away> takes maybe 5-minutes to get accustomed to, and then you're set to go
[03:26] <bigdad1e> PF-away: wow
[03:26] <resident_> !beryl
[03:26] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:26] <bigdad1e> PF-away: how do i install?
[03:27] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: it's php, just upload
[03:27] <PF-Away> and run the setup scripts
[03:27] <bigdad1e> how do i do the scripts?
[03:27] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: just upload them to your webserver
[03:27] <bigdad1e> ok
[03:28] <bigdad1e> perfect
[03:28] <blue|palm> I recently bought an hdd enclosure and installed a 300GB in it, and i first ran it on windows. In ubuntu however it is automatically mounted as a read only device... how can i solve this?
[03:28] <blue|palm> in *kubuntu
[03:28] <PF-Away> blue|palm: is it ntfs?
[03:28] <PF-Away> !ntfs
[03:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:28] <PF-Away> !ntfs-3g
[03:28] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:28] <blue|palm> PF-Away: hmmm do you know if i can check it in any way?
[03:28] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I used the default formatting
[03:28] <PF-Away> !ntfs-3g | blue|palm
[03:28] <ubotu> blue|palm: please see above
[03:29] <PF-Away> blue|palm: did you format it in windows or kubuntu?
[03:29] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I used the default formatting
[03:29] <PF-Away> blue|palm: in windows or kubuntu? or didn't you format it at all?
[03:30] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I didnt format it, i used the default one that the internal drive i bought came with
[03:30] <PF-Away> ah, straight from the manufacturer
[03:30] <blue|palm> PF-Away: yes :)
[03:30] <PF-Away> probably ntfs
[03:30] <PF-Away> ;)
[03:30] <PF-Away> please see the link from ubotu a bit up
[03:30] <PF-Away> about ntfs-3f
[03:30] <PF-Away> *ntfs-3g
[03:30] <blue|palm> PF-Away: its a data drive... so I hope it will be safe using that driver :)
[03:31] <PF-Away> blue|palm: ntfs-3g is probably safer than xfs
[03:31] <bigdad1e> PF-Away: where are you from? if i can ask
[03:31] <PF-Away> which is what i use for my /home;)
[03:31] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: norway
[03:31] <bigdad1e> PF-Away: no one really from the U.S uses linux is what im seeing
[03:31] <blue|palm> PF-Away: isnt xfs a seperate filesystem though?
[03:32] <PF-Away> blue|palm: yup
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i resent that :P
[03:32] <blue|palm> PF-Away: why do you use it over ext?
[03:32] <bigdad1e> what?
[03:32] <PF-Away> but what i mean is that the linux driver for ntfs-3g is safer than the xfs one
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm a US-Dweller using linux
[03:32] <bigdad1e> why?
[03:32] <PF-Away> blue|palm: it was faster when i set up my disks some years ago
[03:32] <bigdad1e> what part?
[03:32] <PF-Away> in gentoo
[03:32] <bigdad1e> your the first ive seen yet
[03:33] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I see, I heard Reiser v4 is the fastest, but i have no idea how to set it up
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> somewhere between chicago and toledo
[03:33] <PF-Away> blue|palm: it isn't that fast
[03:33] <PF-Away> blue|palm: ext3 actually owns it in most areas
[03:33] <blue|palm> PF-Away: Oh
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm doing my bit to convert people
[03:33] <PF-Away> like deleting files, etc. (if i remember correctly)
[03:33] <bigdad1e> lol im where between georga and cuba can you guess where? lmao
[03:33] <bigdad1e> same here
[03:33] <blue|palm> PF-Away: im using ext3 atm till ext4 comes out, its good enough for me I suppose...
[03:34] <PF-Away> blue|palm: if i did it today, i would have ext3 all over
[03:34] <PF-Away> no reason to use ext4, afaik, if you don't have enormous disks
[03:34] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I have enourmous disks
[03:34] <blue|palm> PF-Away: 1.5 TB
[03:34] <PF-Away> 100's of tera?
[03:34] <blue|palm> PF-Away: lol no
[03:34] <PF-Away> ah, that's nothing;)
[03:34] <blue|palm> PF-Away: haha
[03:35] <PF-Away> i think ext4 is more of an answer to zfs
[03:35] <blue|palm> PF-Away: hmm That would be some serious server needing 100's of tera though
[03:35] <gissi> guys, found the problem, the MP3 support was missing, working Ok now. Question: Should I fill a bug for this? Amarok hangs when adding a MP3 to playlist without MP3 support
[03:35] <bigdad1e> what is the point of having that much memory?
[03:35] <PF-Away> hard-drive space
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> boca raton?  west palm beach?
[03:35] <PF-Away> blue|palm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[03:35] <bigdad1e> lol
[03:35] <bigdad1e> wpb
[03:36] <blue|palm> has anybody got kfuseiso working?
[03:36] <blue|palm> it refuses to work
[03:36] <bigdad1e> how did u find that out?
[03:37] <resident_> Guys, i installed beryl but it does not run, everytime i select beryl as window manager it switches back to kwin...
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> and the point of having that much storage space is simple.  every musical recording.  ever. :)
[03:37] <resident_> any clue?
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> resident_: ati or nvidia?
[03:37] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[03:37] <resident_> ati
[03:37] <PF-Away> resident_: run it in a konsole
[03:37] <PF-Away> it's probably just crashing
[03:37] <bigdad1e> ati
[03:37] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: ati's drivers are pathetic :)
[03:37] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: but you will be able to get it working
[03:38] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: with shocking performance however
[03:38] <ForgeAus> it?
[03:38] <bigdad1e> ive been trying to get my ati working for a week now and just gave up
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Hello
[03:38] <blue|palm> has anybody got kfuseiso to work
[03:38] <ForgeAus> I wasn't able to get beryl working with my radeon 9600 AIO AGP card
[03:38] <blue|palm> has anybody got fuse to work in kubuntu?
[03:39] <ForgeAus> I don't use fuse for iso's in kubuntu
[03:39] <ForgeAus> (note theres also theres kiso)
[03:39] <blue|palm> ForgeAus: what do you use then? pls tell
[03:39] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: do you know how to get it working? my ati vga?
[03:39] <PF-Away> i use fuse for bombs
[03:39] <blue|palm> ForgeAus: thanks
[03:39] <PF-Away> !ati
[03:39] <ForgeAus> iso:/ kioslave
[03:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:39] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: well get the driver working first
[03:39] <PF-Away> !beryl
[03:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:39] <resident_> PF-Away:
[03:39] <resident_> [14:49]  <[Mr_T] > inter-crosse
[03:39] <resident_> [14:49]  <[Mr_T] > jatszom
[03:39] <ScarFreewill> i took away the file menu in konqueror how to i get it back :P
[03:39] <resident_> damn
[03:39] <PF-Away> wtf is Mr_T?
[03:39] <PF-Away> :P
[03:40] <ForgeAus> Scar? you took it away?
[03:40] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: its working i just can get past the kubuntu loading/boot screen on start up
[03:40] <resident_> sorry... wrong paste, it says: checking for xcomposite extensions: failed
[03:40] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: thats a driver issue
[03:40] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: i've tried everything
[03:40] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: i was in your shoes once
[03:40] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: follow that driver guide
[03:40] <blue|palm> !ati
[03:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:40] <ForgeAus> resident for ati turn composite off in xorg.conf
[03:40] <blue|palm> your xorg.conf could be messed up too
[03:40] <bigdad1e> that did what it could didnt get it working lol
[03:41] <ForgeAus> I think its just a simple line like option "composite "Disable
[03:41] <resident_> ForgeAus: what should i look for?
[03:41] <ForgeAus> its in the howto
[03:41] <resident_> oh, ok
[03:42] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: how do i find out if my xorg.conf file is corrupted?
[03:42] <ForgeAus> bigdad1e corrupted?
[03:42] <ForgeAus> it should be just a text file
[03:43] <ForgeAus> you READ it
[03:43] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: well messed up
[03:43] <bigdad1e> kate didnt open it lol so its not there
[03:43] <PF-Away> !paste
[03:43] <ForgeAus> if somethings added or missing you might need to fix it
[03:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:43] <ForgeAus> (if you have a kubuntu live cd you might want to compare it?)
[03:43] <bigdad1e> the file opened with nothing in it
[03:43] <ForgeAus> ahh then somethings wrong
[03:43] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: go to a terminal
[03:43] <bigdad1e> im in it
[03:44] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: use recovery mode from bootup if you have to
[03:44] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <blue|palm> it will give you a wizard and you can select your defaults again
[03:44] <blue|palm> The follow the ati driver guide
[03:44] <resident_> ForgeAus: You mean this one? Option  "Composite" "0"
[03:45] <bigdad1e> why can't it find my vga?
[03:48] <ForgeAus> if ext4 is backward-compatible with ext3 and ext3 is backward compatible with ext2 then does that mean ext4 is backward compatible to ext2?
[03:51] <Skreech> has anyone used mercurial?
[03:52] <Skreech> !mercurial
[03:52] <ubotu> mercurial: Scalable distributed version control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 311 kB, installed size 1572 kB
[03:53] <enry> hi
[03:54] <kubuntu> hi
[03:55] <fdmeyer> ?
[03:55] <VJun> how to display chinese word in kubuntu ?
[03:56] <fdmeyer> Is Palm Z22 compatible with Kpilot?
[03:56] <bigdad1e> mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri  is the command i have to do but it says permission denied. what do i do?
[03:57] <PF-Away> fdmeyer: try
[03:57] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: put "sudo" in front of it
[03:57] <Tm_T> !skype
[03:57] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:57] <PF-Away> !ch
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <PF-Away> !chinese
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <bigdad1e> thats right didnt even look
[03:58] <fdmeyer> Not working - get "Unable to read sysem information from pilot"
[03:59] <PF-Away> !palm
[03:59] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[03:59] <PF-Away> fdmeyer: have you followed that one?
[03:59] <fdmeyer> Will try - thanks
[03:59] <PF-Away> np
[04:01] <PF-Away> fdmeyer: looks like you maybe have to press sync on the palm before you open kpilot
[04:01] <PF-Away> fdmeyer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/3595
[04:02] <fdmeyer> Thanks
[04:03] <bigdad1e> ok i did my ati card its working but now i cant see maybe an inch of my screen to the left and 1/4 of it at the top
[04:03] <fdmeyer> Looks like pressing Sync first does the trick
[04:04] <PF-Away> cool
[04:04] <bigdad1e> !ati
[04:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:05] <pollyo> Hello
[04:05] <pollyo> Anyone here familiar with copying cd's?
[04:06] <PF-Away> pollyo: yeah
[04:06] <PF-Away> use k4b
[04:06] <PF-Away> *k3b
[04:06] <pollyo> PF-Away: I tried it but it bombed on me.
[04:06] <CarinArr> k3b bombed?
[04:06] <PF-Away> pollyo: did you set it up first?
[04:06] <CarinArr> i haven't managed to crash it once
[04:06] <PF-Away> k3b pwnz
[04:06] <pollyo> CarinArr: It didn't but the writing failed.
[04:06] <PF-Away> !worksforme
[04:06] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:07] <PF-Away> pollyo: did you try with another CD?
[04:07] <PF-Away> i once thought my cdrecord was b0rked, but it was only a faulty cd
[04:07] <pollyo> PF-Away: I was able to write a cd using files.
[04:07] <pollyo> PF-Away: When I went to copy from one drive to another it wouldn't work.
[04:07] <PF-Away> pollyo: are they on the same cable?
[04:07] <PF-Away> then it won't work, no matter what program you use
[04:07] <PF-Away> but i think you can set k3b to copy it to disk, then write
[04:07] <PF-Away> that would work
[04:08] <pollyo> PF-Away: Yes they are on the same cable.
[04:08] <bxnp> bigdad1e: how is quanta working
[04:08] <PF-Away> pollyo: then you can't copy directly
[04:08] <CarinArr> you can create temporary copy first, that's normaly recommended anyway
[04:08] <pollyo> PF-Away: Ok.  So copy it to file then copy it to disk?
[04:08] <PF-Away> hook off "on the fly" or something
[04:09] <bigdad1e> perfect
[04:09] <pollyo> PF-Away: Ok.  Will that preserve the tracks or will it make it all one track?
[04:09] <PF-Away> pollyo: it will make an exact cioy
[04:09] <PF-Away> *copy
[04:09] <tcleval>  hi, i want to format my /dev/hdd (/dev/dvdrw) as ext3 to use it as a fake-HD  for backups, but it says i cant write to it, i am as root and  I set it to rw, but i cant write to it with fdisk/cfdisk, any solution?  heeeeeeeeeellp please
[04:09] <bigdad1e> bxnp: i got my vga working but part of my screen is missing
[04:09] <pollyo> PF-Away: Ok.  Thanks.  I'll go give it a try...
[04:09] <pollyo> BRB
[04:10] <bxnp> oh, that is not good,
[04:10] <bigdad1e> not at all
[04:10] <bxnp> did it just happened or did you already had problems with your screen bigdad1e
[04:10] <bigdad1e> just now
[04:10] <bigdad1e> theres atleast an inch to the left i cant see
[04:11] <tdn> I want to connect to a wireless network that is using WPA/PSK from Kubuntu. How do I do thsi?
[04:11] <bxnp> but why dot you restart
[04:11] <bxnp> the xserver
[04:12] <bigdad1e> i picked the right resolution in the wizard 1440*900
[04:12] <bxnp> tdn: install knetworkmanager
[04:12] <pollyo> PF-Away: If I have two controllers and put the drives on different cables will the two drive method work for the most part?
[04:12] <bxnp> and its as easy like doing it on windows
[04:12] <tdn> bxnp, done.
[04:12] <bxnp> well click on the network you want to connect too
[04:12] <PF-Away> pollyo: probably
[04:12] <bigdad1e> bxnp: brb
[04:13] <bxnp> and if everything works its asking you to provide the passprase/password tdn
[04:13] <pollyo> PF-Away: It is reading the track information now.  I'll know in a few minutes if it is going to work.
[04:13] <PF-Away> cool
[04:13] <bxnp> the knetworkmanager is in your taskbar
[04:13] <bxnp> if you start it
[04:14] <PF-Away> if you don't start it, it might not be there
[04:14] <bxnp> tdn: is it working
[04:15] <bxnp> you have to check that you want to use encryption
[04:15] <bxnp> and there you get options about what kind of encryption,
[04:15] <tdn> bxnp, no. I cannot see any networks in it.
[04:16] <bxnp> what does it says
[04:16] <bxnp> is your network card working and does it support wpa
[04:16] <bigdad1e> bxnp:  how do i get back into the wizard for my vga?
[04:16] <tdn> bxnp, do I need wpagui or wpasupplicant to be installed?
[04:17] <tdn> bxnp, yes it is, and yes it does.
[04:17] <pollyo> PF-AWAY: It is asking to Load / Eject / Force?  Any suggestions  Should I try Load?
[04:17] <bxnp> oke is wireless networking enabled
[04:17] <bxnp> in knetworkmanager
[04:17] <PF-Away> pollyo: eject, put in an empty cd, load, and wait
[04:17] <tdn> bxnp, I think so. I am online from an open WLAN right now.
[04:17] <tdn> bxnp, 02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[04:18] <Berto> my kde panel is frozen.  how do i restart it?
[04:18] <bxnp> but in knetworkmanager is it enabled
[04:18] <tdn> bxnp, yes. It is enabled in knetworkmanager.
[04:18] <pollyo> PF-Away: Uggg....
[04:18] <PF-Away> Berto: alt+f2, and then "killall kicker"
[04:18] <bxnp> oke, and it does not show anything
[04:18] <PF-Away> Berto: or hit ctrl+alt+esc and click on it
[04:18] <Berto> PF-Away, my f-keys are broken, but i have a terminal anyway... killall kicker doesn't work
[04:18] <PF-Away> Berto: ctrl+alt+esc
[04:18] <Berto> PF-Away, ok control alt escape worked, didn't know about that.  it's not yet rebooting kicker tho!
[04:19] <Berto> PF-Away, isn't there a service that should restart?
[04:19] <PF-Away> Berto: "kicker"
[04:19] <PF-Away> alt+f2, kicker
[04:19] <pollyo> PF-Away: cdrecord return an unknown error (code 255) "f you are running an unpathced cdrecord version and this error also occurs with high uality media and the k3b faq does not help you pleas include the debugging output in your problem report."
[04:19] <PF-Away> have you run the k3b setup thingy?
[04:19] <Berto> PF-Away, thanks.  something is seriously wrong with my kicker it seems. had to killall -9 kicker, now it restarts as a dead blank bar
[04:20] <tdn> bxnp, what to do?
[04:20] <pollyo> PF-Away: It seems to work using files though.  Guess I have to dig deeper into the info.  Are you using the stadard cdrecord that is installed in kubuntu?
[04:20] <PF-Away> Berto: probably a bad apple(t)
[04:20] <JuJuBee> Can someone here assist me in getting NIS working?  I installed on server and client (as per doc's on web), but not getting the list of users on client.
[04:20] <pollyo> PF-Away: Is that in one of the drop down menus or a different startup application?
[04:20] <PF-Away> pollyo: cdrecord isn't included in ubuntu any longer
[04:20] <Berto> PF-Away, yeah, how do i configure the applets i have without kicker running?
[04:20] <PF-Away> Berto: look around in .kde/share/apps/kicker
[04:20] <PF-Away> in your home dir
[04:21] <pollyo> PF-Away: Oh...
[04:21] <ubuntu> hi
[04:21] <Berto> PF-Away, nothing.  oh well, i'll mess with it later, no time to BS with garbage software today
[04:21] <bxnp> strange, i have this http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/knet.png at my knetworkmanager
[04:21] <ubuntu> algun spaol??
[04:21] <PF-Away> Berto: you could just delete the whole folder to get a plain kicker
[04:22] <PF-Away> !es
[04:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:22] <pollyo> PF-Away: ARe you asking if I did Settings/ K3bSetup ?
[04:22] <PF-Away> PF-Away: yeah
[04:22] <ubuntu> thx
[04:22] <PF-Away> pollyo: i think ubuntu uses the cdrecord replacement "wodim"
[04:22] <pollyo> PF-Away: I looked at it but wasn't sure if I needed to change anything.
[04:23] <PF-Away> pollyo: it should do stuff automagically
[04:23] <PF-Away> pollyo: also, try burning as root
[04:23] <PF-Away> i remember i had problems burning as a normal user under gentoo
[04:23] <pollyo> PF-Away: Should Burning group be checked or unchecked.  It is unchecked by default.
[04:23] <PF-Away> just leave it at defaults
[04:24] <pollyo> PF-Away: How do I start it as root?  sudo k3b ?
[04:24] <CarinArr> thik so
[04:24] <PF-Away> kdesu k3b
[04:24] <PF-Away> much prettier;)
[04:25] <waylandbill> k3b will not want to burn dvds as root
[04:25] <PF-Away> afaik, 255 is a permissions error
[04:25] <PF-Away> waylandbill: it does here
[04:25] <Ace2016> Hi all
[04:25] <Ace2016> adept says that there is a new version of kubuntu available
[04:25] <Ace2016> should i update now?
[04:25] <PF-Away> it won't burn dvd's as a normal user, though
[04:25] <Ace2016> isn't it still in beta?
[04:25] <waylandbill> hmm. I thought growisofs didn't want root.
[04:25] <PF-Away> Ace2016: it's still beta
[04:25] <PF-Away> !feisty
[04:25] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:26] <pollyo> PF-Away: I noticed they have version 1 of K3b on the website.  Have you looked at it?
[04:26] <PF-Away> waylandbill: i've copied dvd's running k3b in root, because i got error 255 as a normal user
[04:26] <Ace2016> PF-Away: any idea why adept's update wizard says that there is a new version? and asks me to click if i want to upgrade?
[04:26] <PF-Away> pollyo: no
[04:26] <PF-Away> Ace2016: because you can if you want to beta test;)
[04:26] <PF-Away> probably
[04:26] <waylandbill> PF-Away: it should burn dvds as normal user when set up correctly.
[04:26] <pollyo> PF-Away: Perhaps that is the same problem I am having with the CD copy.  It was a 255 error.
[04:26] <romeo> where can i find "software resources" in Kubuntu?
[04:27] <PF-Away> pollyo: that was what i was thinking;)
[04:27] <Ace2016> i mean
[04:27] <pollyo> waylandbill: Did you have to change the burning group to allow it to burn as a non root user?
[04:27] <waylandbill> what is error 255 btw?
[04:27] <PF-Away> i run feisty, but...
[04:27] <PF-Away> !worksforme
[04:27] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:27] <waylandbill> pollyo: yes. I used a burning group and added my user to it.
[04:27] <Ace2016> no no no no no no no no no no no no
[04:27] <Ace2016> i clicked it
[04:27] <PF-Away> waylandbill: i think it is related to permssions
[04:27] <Ace2016> and its doing something
[04:27] <Ace2016> and i'm in kde
[04:27] <PF-Away> Ace2016: run;)
[04:28] <pollyo> waylandbill: It is unknown error type.
[04:28] <Ace2016> well its not that abd
[04:28] <Ace2016> bad*
[04:28] <Ace2016> this isn't my computer
[04:28] <pollyo> waylandbill: That is what it reported error 255 to me as.
[04:28] <PF-Away> amarok is sexy
[04:28] <eagles0513875> is there an internet explorer equivilent here in kubuntu
[04:28] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: Konqueror
[04:29] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:29] <PF-Away> K-Menu -> Internet -> Konqueror
[04:29] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:29] <eagles0513875> i really want to avoid going into my windows partition
[04:29] <PF-Away> it is even the default file browser
[04:29] <PF-Away> !ie
[04:29] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort
[04:29] <eagles0513875> lol i use firefox more than it
[04:29] <PF-Away> !internet_explorer
[04:30] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: you can get internet explorer under ubuntu, too
[04:30] <PF-Away> with Wine
[04:30] <waylandbill> :-O
[04:30] <Ace2016> it said to launch the update tool, what is that?
[04:30] <eagles0513875> how
[04:30] <eagles0513875> how do i do that pf
[04:31] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:31] <pollyo> eagles0513875: You can install ie4linux if you have wine installed.
[04:31] <eagles0513875> ok how do i install it
[04:31] <eagles0513875> i already have wine
[04:31] <chijin> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ies4linux
[04:31] <PF-Away> !ie4linux
[04:31] <PF-Away> !ies4linux
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <arkhers> trke bilen varm
[04:31] <arkhers> ???
[04:31] <PF-Away> !tu
[04:31] <romeo> I am reading a HOWTO that says that I should to to "Software Sources"... Where can i find that in KUBUNTU?
[04:31] <waylandbill> goodness. I wouldn't bother with IE.
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ies4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <eagles0513875> lol ya but my online math homework only works with ie
[04:31] <eagles0513875> which suxs
[04:31] <PF-Away> romeo: it's probably repositories
[04:32] <pollyo> eagles051387: Let me see if I can find you the link.  Do you specifically need internet explorer or would another browser be ok for you?
[04:32] <PF-Away> romeo: go to Adept
[04:32] <eagles0513875> yes i do polly
[04:32] <romeo> PF-Away: ok thanks
[04:32] <PF-Away> !repositories
[04:32] <pollyo> eagles051385: brb
[04:32] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:32] <waylandbill> why does it need IE? activex or soemthing?
[04:32] <eagles0513875> i guess so
[04:33] <eagles0513875> if i can find a way to contact the site admin ill recommend r and d for linux support
[04:33] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Sometimes you can have an alternate browser tell a site that it's IE and the site will work.
[04:33] <Skreech> !wifi
[04:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:33] <PF-Away> !narrowfi
[04:33] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Go for "Firefox Support" - firefox is used a lot more than linux.
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about narrowfi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Just put ies4linux in google and it should be the first link that comes up.
[04:33] <PF-Away> go for Opera support, Opera is superior
[04:33] <chijin> i use IE for checking what my site looks like in windows
[04:33] <eagles0513875> ive tried but it says taht it has to be ie
[04:34] <eagles0513875> ies or ie4linux
[04:34] <PF-Away> chijin: i honestly don't care what my site looks like in ie;)
[04:34] <pollyo> eagles0513875: with the S ies4linux
[04:34] <PF-Away> it validates in w3c's checker, so it shouldn't look to bad, though
[04:34] <eagles0513875> is it ie4linux or ies4linux poolly
[04:35] <pollyo> eagles0513875: It installes ie5 - ie6 if you want.
[04:35] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:35] <eagles0513875> woot one step closer to getting rid of windows for good lol
[04:35] <pollyo> eagles0513875: With the S  "ies4linux"
[04:35] <PF-Away> http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[04:35] <eagles0513875> i was asking if it was ies4linux or ie4linux
[04:35] <eagles0513875> i thought there was a spelling error
[04:35] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[04:36] <BluesKaj> !IE
[04:36] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort
[04:36] <PF-Away> but i keep getting "Internal Server Error"
[04:36] <eagles0513875> same pf i tried the 3rd one
[04:36] <chijin> PF-Away: you start caring when people are actually buying your sites :-P
[04:36] <PF-Away> chijin: well, i'm not a professional web-dev
[04:36] <PF-Away> :D
[04:36] <PF-Away> freedom ftw
[04:37] <BluesKaj> !Internet-Explorer
[04:37] <eagles0513875> !internet explorer
[04:37] <pollyo> eagles0513875: I installed it about a week ago.  Let me see if I bookmarked the site.  It could be that they are having server problems.
[04:37] <PF-Away> chijin: if you want, could you check if my site do look like crap in ie?: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/
[04:37] <Berto> PF-Away, haha it was xmms-applet that was killling my kicker.  Either xmms or the applet froze, killing everything :)
[04:37] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[04:37] <BluesKaj> nope, won't bite, eagles0513875
[04:37] <eagles0513875> damn if thats the case ill have to leave u guys for the dreaded winblows
[04:37] <jhutchins> If you guys want to search the bot for info, use the search link it provides.  It's much more searchable, and it doesn't clutter the channel.
[04:37] <PF-Away> Berto: darn xmms;)
[04:37] <Berto> PF-Away, thanks for the control-alt-escape trick though
[04:38] <PF-Away> Berto: np
[04:38] <Berto> PF-Away, yeah i've been using it FOREVER (since it was x11amp) and won't move off.  It doesn't get as much devlopment tho
[04:38] <eagles0513875> im going to c on sourceforge
[04:38] <rysiek|pl> guys, remind me which package needs to be dpkg-reconfigured in order to change the hostname?
[04:38] <Berto> new to kde/ubuntu
[04:38] <PF-Away> Berto: tried amarok?
[04:38] <PF-Away> it's darn sexy
[04:38] <PF-Away> :D
[04:38] <Berto> PF-Away, yeah, too fat
[04:38] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/running-internet-explorer-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[04:38] <chijin> PF-Away: it's pretty much the same, but the fonts are of course different
[04:38] <Berto> PF-Away, and i have my lirc plugin working with xmms so i'm happy
[04:38] <sstchur> are there any add-ons for KMenu that would achieve something similar to the task-oriented/search menu that Suse 10.2 ships with?
[04:38] <PF-Away> chijin: ok, thanks
[04:38] <eagles0513875> ty pf
[04:38] <BluesKaj> sorry, just adding a bit of levity , jhutchins
[04:38] <chijin> PF-Away: also, the images have blue frames
[04:39] <PF-Away> sstchur: the menu is called "kickoff"
[04:39] <chijin> PF-Away: you might want to speficy the border-color for the images
[04:39] <PF-Away> sstchur: i saw some .deb's for it somewhere
[04:39] <CarinArr> i use amarok but for some reason i can't get it to transfer my playlists to the ipod
[04:39] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: no prob, it's just that it's a good resource if you're looking for stuff.
[04:39] <PF-Away> chijin: noted;)
[04:39] <PF-Away> basket pwns
[04:39] <CarinArr> or rather it copies them over but the ipod doesn't recognise them
[04:39] <sstchur> PF-Away: thanks, I'll do some searching
[04:39] <PF-Away> !kickoff
[04:39] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:41] <Frederick> folks after upgrading for feisty my xserver is dead. It reports no screen found and I got a exotic hardware here a mobility radeon 9000
[04:42] <pollyo> eagles0513875: the ies4linux site is loading for me now.
[04:42] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:42] <BluesKaj> why would you want ies4linux ?
[04:43] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: he needs it for his math-homework
[04:43] <PF-Away> maybe mathml or something
[04:43] <pollyo> BluesKaj: If you need to access websites that are specifically designed for ie.
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> !kickoff
[04:43] <PF-Away> where can i find automake 1.6?
[04:43] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:43] <BluesKaj> aha, ...they still exist ?
[04:43] <pollyo> BluesKaj: If you are a web developer and want to view a page in ie versions.
[04:43] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: they do in abundance, unfortunately;)
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> ...  i thought there was a package
[04:44] <PF-Away> Daisuke_Ido: i think it is on kde-apps.org
[04:44] <eagles0513875> i think my firefox is busted
[04:44] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: use Konqueror or Opera
[04:44] <BluesKaj> I haven't encountered any in ages, PF-Away
[04:44] <eagles0513875> firefox
[04:44] <pollyo> eagles0513875: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[04:44] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: me neither, but i hear of them every now and then;)
[04:44] <eagles0513875> now trying in konqueror
[04:44] <BluesKaj> yup FF renders well
[04:44] <eagles0513875> in firefox it doesnt load the pg at all
[04:44] <PF-Away> !automake1.6
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake1.6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <eagles0513875> it says taht its done loading the pg
[04:45] <Frederick> is there any command to ask for x configure it self in kubuntu?
[04:45] <eagles0513875> !automake
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <PF-Away> Frederick: X -configure or something
[04:45] <PF-Away> look in the gentoo manual
[04:45] <jhutchins> Frederick:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:46] <comp09> salut
[04:46] <wftl> Salut
[04:46] <fimushka> salut
[04:46] <pollyo> PF-away: Any idea how to rip an iso file from the cd and save it to burn later?
[04:47] <PF-Away> pollyo: use dd
[04:47] <pollyo> PF-away: I have to give this cd back to the guy from the band later today.
[04:47] <PF-Away> dd if=/dev/hdd1 of=isotihngy.iso
[04:47] <PF-Away> replace /dev/hdd1 with your cdrom-drive
[04:48] <pollyo> PF-Away: Thanks.  How do I write it back?  Would I use K3b?
[04:48] <PF-Away> yup
[04:48] <eagles0513875> woot it installing
[04:48] <pollyo> PF-Away: Ok thanks!
[04:48] <PF-Away> write cd-image or somthing
[04:48] <PF-Away> np
[04:48] <eagles0513875> hopefully i dont break something
[04:48] <PF-Away> hey, isn't the sky coming closer?
[04:48] <eagles0513875> how do they get msft stuff to work with linux
[04:49] <eagles0513875> not to mention its getting hard to get hold of msft stuff isnt it
[04:49] <pollyo> eagles0513875: It was an easy setup.  Hope it goes as smooth for you as it did me.
[04:49] <eagles0513875> ill keep uposted polly
[04:49] <miltos> hi ppl:-] 
[04:50] <miltos> i want beryl to start up every time a start kubuntu...
[04:50] <waylandbill> !autostart | miltos
[04:50] <ubotu> miltos: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[04:50] <eagles0513875> polly how many things did it have to dl
[04:51] <eagles0513875> nm
[04:51] <eagles0513875> polly how do i run it
[04:51] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Depends on how many versions you opted to install.
[04:51] <eagles0513875> i think all 3
[04:51] <eagles0513875> how do i get it to run
[04:51] <PF-Away> how can i get the kde headers?
[04:51] <pollyo> eagles0513875: It put an icon for IE on my KDE desktop
[04:52] <eagles0513875> nice ty
[04:52] <eagles0513875> woot it work
[04:52] <eagles0513875> s
[04:52] <eagles0513875> yay
[04:52] <PF-Away> ;)
[04:52] <eagles0513875> j/w r linux antivirus solutions better than windows ones
[04:53] <Frederick> thanks folks it is fixed
[04:53] <Frederick> how do I change the size of the icons in kde? :p
[04:53] <PF-Away> Frederick: under appearance in the system settings
[04:53] <bxnp> kcontrol Frederick
[04:53] <PF-Away> or kcontrol
[04:53] <PF-Away> i never understood why they replaced kcontrol
[04:54] <PF-Away> in kubuntu
[04:54] <miltos> thanks...i will be back
[04:54] <eagles0513875> polly how do i change my active x settings
[04:55] <pollyo> eagles0513875: I haven't played with that portion.  Wouldn't it be in option under one of the drop down menus in IE?
[04:55] <romeo> !tar
[04:55] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[04:55] <eagles0513875> i got it polly
[04:55] <Daisuke_Ido> play, now i remember i was able to set kickoff up before, but now it doesn't want to work :\
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> err. not sure where the play part came from :(
[04:56] <Owean> how do i compare two dirs?
[04:56] <Owean> in console
[04:56] <Owean> is there anything similar to diff, but for dirs?
[04:57] <Frederick> cool my system is back in order
[04:57] <eagles0513875> anyone know much about ie4linux
[04:58] <eagles0513875> i am having activex issues says the security settings r too high to download them
[04:58] <Frederick> eagles0513875: maybe you couls try wine
[04:58] <Frederick> could
[04:58] <eagles0513875> ? what u mean frederick
[04:58] <Frederick> eagles0513875: maybe the native internet explorer in windows beeing run by wine could work better
[04:59] <eagles0513875> im in kubuntu
[04:59] <eagles0513875> and it automatically runs using wine
[04:59] <eagles0513875> when i click on desktop shortcut
[05:00] <pollyo> eagles0513875: I found this just now: http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/activex-linux.php
[05:00] <eagles0513875> ok
[05:00] <eagles0513875> ty polly
[05:00] <eagles0513875> polly is ur name registered
[05:00] <pollyo> eagles0513875: It discussess thinkgs like .net and the settings for active X and it is specifically discussing ies4linux.
[05:01] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Yes
[05:01] <eagles0513875> may i pm polly
[05:01] <miltos> i add the "beryl-manager" command on kcontrol-autostart and when kde starts i receive the message "The desktop entry file /home/miltos/.kde/Autostart/beryl.desktop has no Type=... entry."
[05:01] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Sure.
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> is there an audio editor better (or at least less ugly) than audacity?
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> miltos: Type=Application
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> except that can't be right
[05:03] <eagles0513875> did u get my pm polly
[05:03] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Did you get my response?
[05:03] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:03] <Skuller> my k3b cant handle mp3...how do i make it do so?
[05:04] <miltos> Daisuke_Ido ...next to beryl-manager?
[05:04] <soulrider> Skuller: theres a pckage you gotta install, let me trya nd remember the name
[05:04] <Skuller> soulrider: sure...help appreciated
[05:04] <pollyo> Skuller: I think you need was it libdcss2 or something like that?
[05:04] <eagles0513875> no polly do /msg nickserv identify and ur password
[05:04] <soulrider> pollyo: thats for playing DVDs
[05:04] <Skuller> pollyo: i have libdvdcss2
[05:04] <eagles0513875> that should log u in
[05:05] <pollyo> Skuller: Sorry.  Got it mixed up.
[05:05] <Skuller> np
[05:05] <soulrider> Skuller: try installing libk3b2-mp3
[05:05] <Skuller> soulrider: roger that...thanks
[05:05] <eagles0513875> did u login polly
[05:06] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Yes.
[05:06] <soulrider> Skuller: i think thats all you need
[05:07] <Skuller> soulrider: thanks...its all sweet now
[05:07] <soulrider> Skuller: cool!
[05:08] <Frederick> wich is the name of the clock applet in kde? so I can add it to the menu bar?
[05:08] <soulrider> Frederick: clock :P
[05:08] <Skuller> lol
[05:09] <Jucato> !changethemes | romeo
[05:09] <ubotu> romeo: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:10] <wftl> Hello all. Possible Feisty/OpenOffice problem. In trying to run OpenOffice on my Kubuntu Feisty system, I get "no suitable windowing system found, exiting."
[05:10] <wftl> This is followed by "** (process:11001): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ..."
[05:10] <wftl> Then it's over. I've found a few entries that suggest loading libstartup-notification0, but that has already been done.
[05:10] <wftl> Ideas?
[05:10] <soulrider> wftl: i think you shoudl ask in #ubuntu+1 thats all fesity there
[05:12] <wftl> soulrider: Sure. I can do that. I'll monitor this to see if any ideas crop up. Thanks.
[05:12] <soulrider> no prob
[05:12] <jhutchins> wftl: Current oo has some serious problems, it crashes on opening documents here.
[05:12] <soulrider> jhutchins: on edgy ?
[05:13] <jhutchins> Mandriva actually.
[05:13] <wftl> jhutchins: I don't even get to open documents. It crashes on startup.
[05:13] <jhutchins> 2007
[05:13] <romeo> How do i istall the KDM theme manager? I got errors when it ried to install it
[05:13] <soulrider> jhutchins: ive had bad experiences with mandriva, at least with the 2006 version
[05:13] <soulrider> i thought it was crap
[05:13] <CarinArr> what errors romeo?
[05:14] <romeo> CarinArr: when i type ./configure it says C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:14] <romeo> in the end
[05:14] <edward_> hi
[05:14] <soulrider> romeo: you trying to compile it yourself ?
[05:14] <soulrider> hi edward_
[05:14] <PF-Away> romeo: you're supposed to already have it installed
[05:14] <CarinArr> romeo: have you installed build-essential?
[05:15] <Hrontore> okay im trying to add a font to my wine fonts folder, how do i know if i have to right folder
[05:15] <romeo> soulrider: I have no idea what i am doing:) i am new to this. I just read on its webpage it said i have todo that, then make, then make install.. so i tried it, didnt work
[05:15] <edward_> I just upgraded to feisty and I have some major problems... is this the right room?
[05:15] <waylandbill> !build
[05:15] <CarinArr> romeo: you can also just install the kdm theme manager using adept
[05:15] <romeo> PF-Away: I checked but i could not find it..
[05:15] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:15] <eagles0513875> yes it is ed
[05:15] <Hrontore> nm
[05:15] <soulrider> romeo: did you downlaod it from some site or something ?
[05:15] <PF-Away> romeo: it is in system settings
[05:15] <PF-Away> i think
[05:15] <romeo> CarinArr: I dont kow if i have build-essential.. what name to search for?
[05:15] <PF-Away> or at least in kcontrol
[05:15] <soulrider> edward_: you should go to #ubuntu+1
[05:15] <romeo> soulrider: yes.. the source..
[05:15] <waylandbill> edward_: #kubuntu+1
[05:16] <CarinArr> PF-Away: it's not installed by default
[05:16] <edward_> ok well it wont let me log in with the new kernel, only with 2.6.17-10
[05:16] <soulrider> ohh romeo, dont do that mate
[05:16] <PF-Away> CarinArr: it came here by default, afaik
[05:16] <PF-Away> since KDM is themed by default
[05:16] <edward_> it says VFS error cannot load OS on block 0,0 ... something like that
[05:16] <CarinArr> i had to explicitly install it the other day
[05:16] <soulrider> romeo: i think you cna download it from the repos and have it installed automatically, let me check
[05:16] <CarinArr> kdm is installed, the theme manager isn't. at least not on my clean edgy kubuntu install
[05:16] <comp05> FRFRF
[05:16] <soulrider> CarinArr: thats weird
[05:17] <CarinArr> romeo: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[05:17] <edward_> ok i'll try kubuntu+1...
[05:17] <soulrider> edward_: Ubuntu not Kubuntu
[05:17] <CarinArr> romeo: you have to have universe repository enabled
[05:17] <soulrider> CarinArr: i dont think it sin universe =/
[05:17] <romeo> CarinArr: ok thanks i will put it on and check.
[05:17] <CarinArr> soulrider: it is according to the .deb info
[05:18] <soulrider> CarinArr: do this command "sudo aptitude install kdm kdmtheme"
[05:18] <CarinArr> soulrider: i have it installed already
[05:18] <soulrider> i meant romeo, do this command "sudo aptitude install kdm kdmtheme"
[05:18] <soulrider> romeo: that will isntall kdm and kdmtheme
[05:18] <soulrider> romeo: you got this error right after a clean install ?
[05:19] <romeo> soulrider: It says couldnt find any named kdmtheme
[05:19] <soulrider> ok, we can fix that
[05:19] <soulrider> do
[05:19] <Tm_T> !opera
[05:19] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:19] <soulrider> sudo aptitude install kdm
[05:19] <soulrider> that will install just kdm
[05:19] <romeo> yeah i got the kdm installed already
[05:20] <soulrider> what it is that youre trying to install now ?
[05:20] <romeo> The theme manager? I saw it on kde-look.org so i can install themes ?
[05:20] <soulrider> ahh
[05:20] <Jucato> !changethemes | romeo
[05:20] <ubotu> romeo: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:20] <Jucato> (again)
[05:20] <romeo> oh must have missed that Jucato sorry
[05:20] <soulrider> lol, hi Jucato
[05:21] <Jucato> hi soulrider :)
[05:21] <soulrider> how are you ?
[05:21] <CarinArr> why not just install the kdm theme manager...
[05:21] <soulrider> Jucato: do you know if theres some FAQ for newbies explaining how to install software, what repos are and stuff like that ?
[05:22] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[05:22] <soulrider> Jucato: i see theya ll try to install the drivers and stuff from what they get from sites before comming on ITC
[05:22] <Jucato> and the Kubuntu Desktop Guide
[05:22] <Jucato> soulrider:  unfortunately that's a habit carried over from that other OS
[05:22] <jhutchins> !software | soulrider
[05:22] <ubotu> soulrider: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[05:23] <Jucato> to most people, the concept of repositories is too good to be true
[05:23] <soulrider> Jucato: yeah
[05:23] <soulrider> yesterday i explained all about repos to someone
[05:23] <CarinArr> !repositories
[05:23] <soulrider> and he was all shocked! :P
[05:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:23] <Jucato> :)
[05:23] <Skuller> lol
[05:23] <soulrider> Jucato: im gonna see if theres a guide like that for spanish, if theres not im gonna translate it
[05:24] <CarinArr> romeo: look at the above link and follow instructions to enable the universe repository, then do sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[05:24] <jhutchins> There are so many HOWTOs out there that practically still begin with "first download and patch the latest kernel sources".
[05:24] <Jucato> repositories - an online repository (a.k.a. storage) of programs, libraries, and other stuff packaged and tested to run on your system :)
[05:24] <Aw0L> does anyone know how to increase mouse sensitivity (NOT pointer acceleration)?
[05:24] <romeo> CarinArr: i enabled the universe resp, but still didnt work :D
[05:24] <Skuller> imagine a pirate central repo for Mzoft's softs
[05:24] <soulrider> i cant wait til feisty comes out so we dont ahve to explain everyone how to enable multiverse and universe :P
[05:24] <eagles0513875> what u mean skull
[05:24] <CarinArr> romeo: have you done sudo apt-get update?
[05:24] <soulrider> romeo: you need to do sudo aptitude update
[05:24] <jhutchins> romeo: Did you udate?
[05:24] <CarinArr> heh
[05:24] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider: is ubuntu's philosophy changing?
[05:24] <jhutchins> ding, ding, ding!
[05:25] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Regarding what?
[05:25] <Daisuke_Ido> regarding proprietary packages (universe and multiverse)
[05:25] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: im almost sure they will be enabled by default
[05:25] <Skuller> eagles0513875: i was just wondering what it would be like if there was a repo for pirated softs in the windows world...piracy would be all you would see
[05:25] <CarinArr> feisty doesn't use universe/multiverse?
[05:25] <romeo> CarinArr, soulrider and jhutchins, do you mean if i updated everything? If so, yes i did.. I updated everything i could update
[05:25] <CarinArr> romeo: no, you have to run "sudo apt-get update" to update the lists from the repositories
[05:25] <Daisuke_Ido> that will be nice though
[05:26] <soulrider> romeo: you need to type "sudo aptitude update" after enabling the repos
[05:26] <Jucato> enabled by default != installed by default
[05:26] <Daisuke_Ido> good point
[05:26] <Jucato> in fact, the mp3 codec in feisty is already in main. but not installed by default
[05:26] <soulrider> oh man, i love ubuntu! :P
[05:26] <Jucato> libxine1-ffmpeg is in main
[05:26] <Owean> how do i compare two dirs in console, is there anything similar to diff, but for dirs?
[05:26] <romeo> Ah! =) this is fun, ok one sec
[05:26] <Jucato> the only reason it's not installed by default is patent issues... (so I've been told)
[05:27] <soulrider> Owean: dont really know =/
[05:27] <Jucato> Owean: try looking for an app called kompare and/or komparator... not sure which is which
[05:27] <romeo> yay! Now it worked to install it. Thak you all so very much :D
[05:27] <CarinArr> you're welcome romeo;) it should be available from kcontrol now
[05:27] <soulrider> no prob
[05:28] <romeo> soulrider and CarinArr. Thanks.
[05:28] <Jucato> Owean: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33545
[05:28] <Jucato> (that was quick...)
[05:28] <jhutchins> Owean: I usually use a file manager called "mc", styled after Midnight Commander.
[05:28] <romeo> since you are helping me, i got One tiny question cause i am tryig to install my grafic card. on a howto for ubuntu it says go to system - Software source.. Any idea where i can find this sofware source in Kubuntu?
[05:28] <Jucato> there's a KDE version of that, called Krusader :)
[05:29] <Owean> jhutchins: but does it support recursive comparison?
[05:29] <jhutchins> Jucato: Except he specified console.
[05:29] <CarinArr> right, finally got everything set up as i want it on my laptop.. and am realising i'm now going to have reinstall all my other machines to get same setups on them
[05:29] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:29] <Jucato> jhutchins: ah sorry kinda missed that part :)
[05:29] <CarinArr> and i didn't make a note of anything i did
[05:29] <angela_> Error trying to open /dev/hdc exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. and my ubuntu iso burn fails .. why
[05:29] <eagles0513875> skull now i know y ur name is what it is
[05:29] <jhutchins> Owean: If nothing else, you can do ls -R > text file for each tree and diff the files.
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> may as well update to 3.5.6
[05:30] <eagles0513875> what r u using to burn ur iso angela
[05:30] <CarinArr> angela_: sounds as tho the device or resource is busy;)
[05:30] <CarinArr> sorry.. couldn't resist
[05:30] <angela_> k3b..
[05:30] <angela_> i have a blank cd in
[05:30] <Skreech> Jucato: How did it find it's way into main?
[05:30] <eagles0513875> ok can u eject the cd
[05:30] <jhutchins> angela_: Need to run k3bsetup, if that fails we can walk you through fixing it manually.
[05:31] <eagles0513875> could it fix itself it the x is restarted
[05:31] <Jucato> Skreech: libxine-extracodecs just installs libxine1-ffmpeg, which is in main. don't know how, don't know why
[05:31] <angela_> i ran k3bsetup its running now what do i need to do there
[05:31] <angela_> seems all is allright
[05:31] <romeo> CarinArr: Would you know where to find "sofware source" in kubuntu? a howto tells me that its on UBUNTU > system > Software source.. However i cant seem to find it on my kubuntu?
[05:31] <jhutchins> angela_: that or somethng else is accesing the disk.
[05:32] <angela_> the disk isnt even mounted
[05:32] <angela_> hmm wait
[05:32] <Skreech> Jucato: When does the patent on mp3 rugout?
[05:32] <Skreech> runout?
[05:32] <CarinArr> romeo: no idea.. not sure what that is i'm afraid, and i haven't used kde more than a couple of days;)
[05:32] <jhutchins> angela_: k3bsetup should set /dev/hdc's group ownership to a group you are a member of (use the groups command to see what you belong to).
[05:32] <jhutchins> angela_: We've had reports that it sometimes fails.
[05:32] <Jucato> Skreech: dunno... seeing as it's in main, might be good to ask core devs
[05:32] <PF-Away> romeo: look in Adept Package Manager
[05:33] <jhutchins> angela_: ls -l /dev/hdc to see the owner/group.
[05:33] <romeo> CarinArr: Oh :P ok thaks.
[05:33] <PF-Away> it should be in your K-menu somewhere
[05:33] <eagles0513875> try restarting the x server for me that fixes alot of bugs that i have
[05:33] <angela_> jhutchins: i sucesfully burned a file to a cd before this
[05:33] <angela_> using this account
[05:33] <romeo> PF-Away: I did.. Didnt work as it said on the howto. There it said i need to authenicate it using a key.. but i could not find where to browse so i could add the key for instance..
[05:33] <jhutchins> Ok, so the groups thing shouldn't be a problem then.
[05:34] <angela_> yea its not a group problem
[05:34] <waylandbill> man I must have alot of packages installed. over a thousand to jump up to feisty. :-O
[05:34] <angela_> let me check again
[05:34] <PF-Away> romeo: which howto?
[05:34] <Skreech> Whoot Debtags work in Adept again :)
[05:34] <jhutchins> angela_: try fuser -vki /dev/hdc
[05:34] <angela_> works now
[05:34] <Skreech> !laptops
[05:34] <angela_> i just had to click the cd icon on the desktop
[05:34] <Skreech> !laptop
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:35] <jhutchins> Great, that's really all that matters.
[05:35] <Skuller> eagles0513875: lol..yea i kept that name for myself myself....love it :)
[05:35] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:35] <angela_> im leaving kubuntu because it was kind of too slow and unstable for me , going for ubuntu
[05:35] <eagles0513875> so its registered
[05:35] <eagles0513875> wait angela
[05:35] <eagles0513875> how much ram do u have
[05:35] <eagles0513875> and how much swap
[05:36] <angela_> 512 ddram, 1.8ghz, radeon 9550 128mb
[05:36] <angela_> 1gb ram or so
[05:36] <angela_> i mean swap
[05:36] <eagles0513875> there is ur issue
[05:36] <Skuller> angela_: you werent using any extra window managers right?
[05:36] <PF-Away> i'm glad i'm just testing azureus, not using it... 27% of my memory...
[05:36] <angela_> no, im just using everything as default , nothing modified..
[05:36] <eagles0513875> so the total amount of ram u have is 512
[05:36] <angela_> kde 3.5.6 though
[05:36] <angela_> im not sure if i have 1gb swap maybe its 512 how do i check from command line
[05:37] <waylandbill> I've got 512 ram and kde moves right along..
[05:37] <JuJuBee> I have been trying to get NIS working.  I have read 3 how-to's online, but none seem to be for ubuntu and some of the commands they tell to use do not work... Some of the tests they tell me to run give desired output on both client and server, but no joy.  Can anybody help me?
[05:37] <eagles0513875> ive got 1.2 and im on fire
[05:37] <eagles0513875> and on top of that duel boot
[05:37] <eagles0513875> do u know how to get to the linux equiv of task manager
[05:37] <Skuller> eagles0513875: count me burning too
[05:37] <easytiger> JuJuBee: if your going to use NIS in anger you may want to consider solaris
[05:37] <romeo> PF-Away: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html  (its on the current version, not on edgy)
[05:37] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:37] <angela_> i have freebsd on the other hd its  a 10gb quantum fireball and its blazing fast and stable
[05:37] <Justinalf> Hello, this doesn't seem like a big problem, but everytime I load up Lincity, my screen goes blank, any sugestions?
[05:38] <JuJuBee> What do you mean, in anger?
[05:38] <Skuller> eagles0513875: ksysgaurd
[05:38] <eagles0513875> ya
[05:38] <eagles0513875> open that up angela
[05:38] <easytiger> JuJuBee: in a serious set up
[05:38] <easytiger> or an enterprise environment
[05:38] <CarinArr> aren't you supposed to have same amount of swap as you have ram?
[05:38] <eagles0513875> ya
[05:38] <angela_> for a workstation yes
[05:38] <JuJuBee> Ieasytiger : i am in a small network (my classroom of < 20 computers)
[05:38] <CarinArr> that's the rule i normally follow
[05:38] <angela_> for a server no
[05:38] <CarinArr> why not for a server?
[05:39] <eagles0513875> it could be u need to up the amount of ram u have for a server
[05:39] <Skuller> eagles0513875: you can even get superkaramba and get the 'glass monitor' theme to get a lot of monitors and info
[05:39] <PF-Away> CarinArr: you run more daemons
[05:39] <PF-Away> ?
[05:39] <JuJuBee> s/leasytiger/easytiger/
[05:39] <angela_> its recomended to have double of physical ram for a server, but thats not mandatory
[05:39] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: ctrl-esc
[05:39] <CarinArr> surely that'll just set it swapping madly tho
[05:39] <eagles0513875> swap has to be the same as amount of ram u have
[05:39] <eagles0513875> ubuntu server is just a cli btw angela
[05:39] <angela_> for a workstation yea
[05:39] <CarinArr> why wouldn't it for a server tho
[05:39] <angela_> but it depends on whos rules you follow
[05:39] <angela_> some books say this
[05:39] <angela_> other books other things
[05:39] <Skuller> eagles0513875: ctrl-esc will show you the processes
[05:40] <PF-Away> romeo: why don't you follow the official guide of the Beryl project?
[05:40] <eagles0513875> try shrinkin gthe swap and c if that helps
[05:40] <easytiger> JuJuBee: did you try searching for debian and nis rather than k/ubuntu
[05:40] <CarinArr> doubling the swap will surely just slow things down
[05:40] <eagles0513875> ty skull didnt know that
[05:40] <eagles0513875> ya is there a way she can change it
[05:40] <CarinArr> i'm pleased cause so far with this machine it hasn't touched the swap once
[05:40] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: swap = 2x ram has been the standard for years.
[05:40] <CarinArr> finally enough ram \o/
[05:41] <PF-Away> romeo: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[05:41] <JuJuBee> easytiger, no.  just nis ubuntu...
[05:41] <eagles0513875> ya then y is she experencing slow performance
[05:41] <romeo> PF-Away: I havent checked it, reason i am following this guide is because it says also how i can do to install my grafic card (which is the main reason i am following this guide, the xgl i guess is a bonus)
[05:41] <angela_> how do i check what size is my swap
[05:41] <easytiger> JuJuBee: you might get more results for debian.. saying tis more likey to have been deplyed as a server
[05:41] <CarinArr> romeo, what grahics card do you have?
[05:41] <PF-Away> romeo: you shouldn't use xgl if you don't need it
[05:41] <angela_> i have the default size set by kubuntu during install thats for sure
[05:41] <eagles0513875> ctrl esc
[05:41] <waylandbill> angela_: free
[05:41] <eagles0513875> wait angela run this
[05:42] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:42] <eagles0513875> this gets rid of the cache and cleans it out after u install pkgs
[05:42] <angela_> ok
[05:42] <jhutchins> angela_: top and iostat can be useful in determining where your system bottlenecks.
[05:42] <eagles0513875> frees up space and should improve performance
[05:42] <angela_> im rebooting to ubuntu cd in a few min
[05:42] <angela_> to install it
[05:42] <angela_> no point anymore
[05:42] <eagles0513875> wait angela we can get to bottom of this
[05:43] <PF-Away> vmstat
[05:43] <angela_> output of free on swap section says
[05:43] <angela_> Swap:      1544184      17676    1526508
[05:43] <epimeth> what does it mean if when I log in to x a session starts, then I get thrown back to the login screen?
[05:43] <eagles0513875> how bout physical mem
[05:43] <PF-Away> angela_: vmstat
[05:43] <angela_>     total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:43] <angela_> Mem:        515368     504720      10648          0       3812     383512
[05:43] <angela_> -/+ buffers/cache:     117396     397972
[05:43] <angela_> Swap:      1544184      17676    1526508
[05:44] <CarinArr> epimeth: back to a graphical login screen, or back to a text one?
[05:44] <eagles0513875> isnt her problem she has a bigger swap than physical mem
[05:44] <epimeth> graphical
[05:44] <eagles0513875> 1.5gb swap for 512mb physical
[05:44] <angela_> hmm
[05:44] <angela_> thats kind of a problem
[05:44] <angela_> didnt know
[05:44] <eagles0513875> i think that is where ur prob is angela
[05:44] <angela_> kde apps took long to load ..
[05:44] <angela_> hmm yea you are right
[05:44] <CarinArr> epimeth: probably that the window manager crashed
[05:45] <eagles0513875> is there a way she can shrink it without reinstalling
[05:45] <epimeth> CarinArr: lol... no way!
[05:45] <CarinArr> ;)
[05:45] <epimeth> CarinArr: so how do I fix it :-)
[05:45] <CarinArr> epimeth: you logging into kde?
[05:45] <eagles0513875> oh wait angela
[05:45] <PF-Away> angela_: you could also try with a custom kernel, with ck's patchset
[05:45] <epimeth> CarinArr: yup
[05:45] <eagles0513875> question is is she really experienced with linux or inexperienced
[05:45] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: shrink the swap? yes. turn swap off, repartition it, turn swap on
[05:45] <CarinArr> epimeth: i'm not really that familiar with kde, but you can try moving the .kde folder temporarily and see if it's one of your settings causing it
[05:46] <eagles0513875> way can u explain to angela how to do that
[05:46] <angela_> im somewhere between
[05:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:46] <eagles0513875> wayland can u explain that to angela
[05:46] <epimeth> CarinArr: how do I set the default window manager?  I think beryl might be the culprit
[05:46] <eagles0513875> i have to be honest angela not many ladies on here lol so its nice to c a lady on here lol
[05:46] <PF-Away> angela_: do you want help with repartitioning your swapspace?
[05:46] <romeo> CarinArr: I got Radeon x700.. I followed another guide but it didnt work. Said i need to go to Xorg config file nad change Ati to visa or vesa if i remember correctly. However that did not work =)
[05:47] <angela_> no im not a lady, im just on my mothers account and konversation took her username for nick.. hehe
[05:47] <PF-Away> swapoff /dev/hda2; cfdisk; swapon /dev/hda2
[05:47] <angela_> im a fatboy
[05:47] <CarinArr> epimeth: check if you have beryl-manager.desktop in .kde/Autostart, if so try to move it and see if that works
[05:47] <PF-Away> :P
[05:47] <eagles0513875> oh lol
[05:47] <epimeth> angela_: you know... I was gonna make some joke about you not being a lady, but felt it was in bad taste....
[05:47] <waylandbill> swapoff, use qtparted to resize the swap, swapon /dev/hda[x] 
[05:47] <Skuller> lol
[05:47] <eagles0513875> talk to wayland he should be able to explain to ya how to shrink the swap i have no idea
[05:47] <CarinArr> there you go;)
[05:47] <Skuller> hehe
[05:47] <romeo> PF-Away: Isn't XGL to make things the windows move in 3d etc?
[05:47] <epimeth> CarinArr: cheers
[05:47] <epimeth> CarinArr: trying now
[05:47] <eagles0513875> btw angela u have to use sudo qtparted
[05:48] <eagles0513875> good luck romeo getting open gl to work i have a x200m and its a bitch
[05:48] <CarinArr> romeo: yeah, out of interest, how old is your graphics card?
[05:48] <PF-Away> romeo: XGL is the old way, AIGLX, which is built into the graphic-thingy-server Xorg, is the new way
[05:48] <Skuller> caesar gifted
[05:48] <waylandbill> you have to use sudo for the swapoff/on as well. :-)
[05:48] <angela_> ok another time im rebooting to ubuntu install and another day i'll try kubuntu with a right swap size, when feisty fawn will be out
[05:48] <eagles0513875> mine carin is only 2 yrs old and i cnat the fglrx to work ive tried everythign imaginable
[05:48] <romeo> eagles0513875: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html this guy seems to have helped loads of people. I think i read x200m there worked. Check it our of you want
[05:48] <eagles0513875> ty romeo
[05:49] <eagles0513875> ill check it out
[05:49] <CarinArr> i've only had the questionable pleasure of ever owning one mchine with an ati card and it was too old a card to actually use the proprietory drivers anyway;)
[05:49] <l3mr> i'm trying to port my app from os x tiger to linux; GL_FRAMEBUFFER_EXTs are not recognized. Do i need special includes on linux to use FBOs? i use Kubuntu with the latest nvidia drivers
[05:49] <romeo> CarinArr: Around 1-2 years old if i am not mistaken
[05:49] <eagles0513875> same with mine
[05:49] <eagles0513875> carin
[05:49] <angela_> thanks for help, and its really nice to be a lady cause you get more help and ppl are more nice but now you know im not a lady
[05:49] <CarinArr> heh
[05:49] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: ATI?
[05:49] <waylandbill> radeon 200m? it runs beryl, but not very quickly.
[05:50] <CarinArr> romeo: sorry i can't be much help with ati drivers.. have you tried envy though? it claims to work with ati drivers too
[05:50] <bxnp> l3mr: i think you are kinda in the wrong channel, the questions you ask are more developing related,
[05:50] <eagles0513875> ya ati radeon xpress 200m
[05:50] <epimeth> CarinArr: nope
[05:50] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: don't change any driver settings
[05:50] <PF-Away> just run beryl-manager
[05:50] <eagles0513875> integrated onto mobo on my compaq pesario r4012us
[05:50] <eagles0513875> ok
[05:50] <PF-Away> it should work, afaik, with the default settings
[05:50] <CarinArr> pardon epimeth?
[05:50] <bxnp> in what language are you porting the app to linux l3mr
[05:51] <PF-Away> c, problly
[05:51] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: that link works with a 200m, but it's not quick and requires xgl
[05:51] <l3mr> bxnp: ok. i already asked in ubuntu-devel :) ... c++ & glsl
[05:51] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: don't follow that link
[05:51] <PF-Away> it would be stupid;)
[05:51] <eagles0513875> ok should i install beryl
[05:51] <PF-Away> unnecessary, even
[05:51] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: just install beryl, and try to run it
[05:51] <PF-Away> it should work
[05:51] <epimeth> CarinArr: nothing in Autostart
[05:51] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: do you need help to install it?
[05:52] <epimeth> CarinArr: besides .directoy
[05:52] <eagles0513875> install what
[05:52] <PF-Away> beryl
[05:52] <bxnp> maybe going to the #c++ channel is a good one l3mr
[05:52] <romeo> CarinArr: What exactly is Evy?
[05:52] <epimeth> CarinArr: no file with beryl at all
[05:52] <romeo> CarinArr:  Envy*
[05:52] <eagles0513875> hey eilker
[05:52] <waylandbill> PF-Away: 200m? no way. it needs xgl and doesn't run beryl with the open source driver.
[05:52] <CarinArr> epimeth: how about .kde/share/autostart/ ?
[05:52] <epimeth> romeo: its an autoinstall program for graphic card drivers
[05:52] <PF-Away> 200m? you sure?
[05:52] <bxnp> and will it be a kde app l3mr
[05:52] <CarinArr> !envy
[05:52] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[05:52] <waylandbill> PF-Away: I have one.
[05:52] <epimeth> romeo: specifically, Nvidia and Ati
[05:52] <PF-Away> ah, sorry, i'm messing up
[05:52] <bxnp> in that case the kde developers channel is allso a good start
[05:53] <PF-Away> waylandbill: but the beryl project provides an automatic script
[05:53] <l3mr> bxnp: nope, pure OpenGL screen and stuff - no gui :)
[05:53] <epimeth> CarinArr: sure cheat and use ubotu :-p
[05:53] <romeo> CarinArr: Okey thanks
[05:53] <waylandbill> PF-Away: now that I didn't know. :-)
[05:53] <CarinArr> :D
[05:53] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL_and_ATI
[05:53] <eagles0513875> im confused here
[05:53] <epimeth> CarinArr: where is that located?  etc?
[05:53] <bxnp> what kind of app is it anyway l3mr
[05:53] <CarinArr> epimeth: uhm no should be in your home directory
[05:53] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: follow the link i posted
[05:53] <PF-Away> and instead of "gedit" use "kate"
[05:54] <eagles0513875> what repository do i get bery from
[05:54] <PF-Away> it will do stuff automagically
[05:54] <l3mr> bxnp: pointsplat-renderer
[05:54] <CarinArr> eagles0513875: it's all covered in that tutorial
[05:54] <epimeth> CarinArr: shared stuff in my home?  odd.... I think I set beryl to start automatically for *all* users... where would that be located
[05:54] <eagles0513875> ok
[05:54] <CarinArr> epimeth: heh, yeah it is odd
[05:54] <eagles0513875> this is confusing me actually lol let me take look at it again
[05:55] <CarinArr> epimeth: not sure to be honest.. i've used beryl about as long as i've used kde (i.e. two days)
[05:55] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: just do the following:
[05:55] <bxnp> to be honest i dont know what that is l3mr
[05:55] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: open a Konsole
[05:55] <epimeth> CarinArr: lol... arg
[05:55] <epimeth> CarinArr: I'll have a searchsie
[05:55] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: K-Menu -> System -> Konsole
[05:55] <epimeth> !windowmanager
[05:55] <epimeth> !window-manager
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <PF-Away> !wm
[05:55] <eagles0513875> ok
[05:55] <CarinArr> l3mr: what was the error you had?
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <l3mr> bxnp: 3d accelerated rendering of high quality scenes using points instead of triangles
[05:56] <l3mr> simply said
[05:56] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: then type "kate ./beryl-install-script"
[05:56] <eagles0513875> ok
[05:56] <CarinArr> l3mr: for fun or for work?
[05:56] <epimeth> heh... beryl doesn't know how to hid adept notifier!
[05:56] <l3mr> CarinArr: both :)
[05:56] <bxnp> and can i use blender to create that scene and render it with your app
[05:56] <eagles0513875> just copy and paste what they have on site pf
[05:57] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: now copy the script on the yellow background from here (mark, right click, copy): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11360/
[05:57] <CarinArr> l3mr: commercial application? (nosy:) )
[05:57] <PF-Away> and paste, yeah;)
[05:57] <waylandbill> epimeth: you should see beryl handle a vnc window. :-)
[05:57] <l3mr> CarinArr: Research
[05:57] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: then ctrl+s (save) and exit
[05:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[05:57] <CarinArr> l3mr: really? same business as me then:)
[05:57] <l3mr> CarinArr: will be released with bsd license when the paper is published :)
[05:57] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: then, back in the konsole, type "chmod +x ./beryl-install-script"
[05:57] <l3mr> papers...
[05:57] <l3mr> :)
[05:57] <eagles0513875> will this work
[05:57] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: then "sudo ./beryl-install-script"
[05:58] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: it better;)
[05:58] <eagles0513875> hold on
[05:58] <CarinArr> l3mr: you in academia or in commercial research?
[05:58] <eagles0513875> says command not found
[05:58] <l3mr> academia
[05:58] <romeo> CarinArr: What file should i download? The source of the envy? or a deb file? :S
[05:58] <CarinArr> romeo: the .deb file
[05:58] <eagles0513875> is there another package i need to download or add another repository
[05:58] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: how, where?
[05:59] <CarinArr> l3mr: sorry to keep at it.. but what university are you working at?
[05:59] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: i believe it should do it automagically
[05:59] <eagles0513875> it says that the command cant be found
[05:59] <CarinArr> i'm researching rendering techniques too, interesting when you come across others;)
[05:59] <eagles0513875> wait
[05:59] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: when you type "sudo ./beryl-install-script"
[05:59] <PF-Away> ?
[06:00] <eagles0513875> its working
[06:00] <l3mr> CarinArr: Europe.... :)
[06:00] <romeo> CarinArr: Ok, i downloaded the deb file.. How to install a deb file? :)
[06:00] <eagles0513875> missed a step
[06:00] <PF-Away> ah;)
[06:00] <eagles0513875> updating repositories
[06:00] <romeo> CarinArr: Or run it or whatever you do with a deb file
[06:00] <PF-Away> cool
[06:00] <Skreech> romeo: Which deb file?
[06:00] <romeo> Skreech: Envy deb file
[06:00] <CarinArr> lol l3mr, like pulling teeth;)
[06:00] <PF-Away> romeo: right-click, Kubuntu menu thing, and install
[06:00] <Skreech> !ENVY
[06:00] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[06:00] <CarinArr> romeo: if it saves it onto your desktop just right click it and choose to install it
[06:01] <romeo> PF-Away: And if i want todo it from the console?
[06:01] <eagles0513875> its downloading atm
[06:01] <CarinArr> romeo: what PF-Away said;)
[06:01] <PF-Away> romeo: dpkg -i [name] 
[06:01] <romeo> PF-Away:  Yeay, thaks
[06:01] <PF-Away> np;=
[06:01] <romeo> CarinArr: Alrighty, ill try it and update you if it works or not :D
[06:02] <eagles0513875> hope this does it
[06:02] <eagles0513875> if it does i dont know what im going to do to repay ya
[06:02] <Skreech> Beer
[06:02] <PF-Away> a simple "thanks" will suffice
[06:02] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:02] <PF-Away> ;)
[06:02] <eagles0513875> u sure pf
[06:02] <PF-Away> of course
[06:03] <PF-Away> i've had enough people waste time trying to help me, this is the least i can do;)
[06:03] <eagles0513875> ty ahead of time
[06:03] <PF-Away> _if_ it works;)
[06:03] <eagles0513875> i love the wifi connection im on
[06:03] <PF-Away> heh
[06:03] <eagles0513875> its a cable connection 1.5mb down 768 up
[06:03] <PF-Away> love thy neighbour?
[06:04] <eagles0513875> that is the wired connection
[06:04] <eagles0513875> im getting 54mb
[06:04] <PF-Away> :P
[06:04] <CarinArr> in the non literal sense
[06:04] <PF-Away> i'm supposed to have 2up/down
[06:04] <eagles0513875> pf go to www.speedtest.net
[06:04] <eagles0513875> that is a way to test it
[06:04] <eagles0513875> and click on the pyramid that is orange
[06:04] <TFrog> anyone have any luck with Feisty and the ATI proprietary drivers?
[06:04] <eagles0513875> that is the closest data center to where u r
[06:05] <PF-Away> ok
[06:05] <waylandbill> I would try a speed test, but downloading feisty packages might skew it. ;)
[06:05] <eagles0513875> pf will beryl enable open gl for me
[06:05] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:05] <eagles0513875> i saw a scheduel yesterday if anyon is  interested official release date for feisty plus or minus 2 or 3 days is april 19th
[06:05] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: yes, supposedly;)
[06:06] <PF-Away> !feisty | eagles0513875
[06:06] <ubotu> eagles0513875: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:06] <PF-Away> :D
[06:06] <eagles0513875> i got that off the scheduel pf
[06:06] <TFrog> we'll just have to wait and see. i'm running Feisty now
[06:06] <eagles0513875> should i restart my x
[06:06] <eagles0513875> how is it tfrog
[06:06] <Skreech> !kde4
[06:06] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[06:07] <eagles0513875> it still says mesa glx is still indirect
[06:07] <eagles0513875> im going to restart x
[06:07] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: is the script finished?
[06:07] <eagles0513875> ya
[06:07] <PF-Away> then restart
[06:07] <eagles0513875> ok brb
[06:07] <EugenS> hello alls
[06:07] <PF-Away> you might have to select Beryl when you log in
[06:07] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:07] <TFrog> pretty stable at this point. most apps work well. a few small issues. my biggest issue is ATI proprietary drivers with the 200M chipset
[06:08] <waylandbill> TFrog: 200m. The bane of many a user. :)
[06:08] <TFrog> lol waylandbill. i got it working in edgy fine. problem is the new kernel in feisty
[06:09] <PF-Away> doesn't ati support .20 yet?
[06:09] <waylandbill> TFrog: I'll find that out soon enough.
[06:09] <TFrog> PF-Away, they have been. however there is a problem with their drivers and composite memory
[06:10] <PF-Away> TFrog: has there been a time there has not been a problem with ati's proprietary drivers?;)
[06:10] <EugenS> boring :(
[06:10] <eagles0513875> it still says indirect pf
[06:10] <TFrog> and that was with edgy which was fixable
[06:10] <K-Ryan> Hey guys
[06:10] <EugenS> hey
[06:10] <JuJuBee> easytiger : thanks fo the tip, got it working now...
[06:10] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: AIGLX means Advanced Indirect GL for X
[06:10] <eagles0513875> ?
[06:10] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: try running a 3d program
[06:10] <TFrog> not from what i've read on the forums. about 2 years ago they had a stable driver under ubuntu. but not so now
[06:10] <eagles0513875> so mesa glx should say indirect
[06:10] <PF-Away> it should be accelerated
[06:10] <eagles0513875> how do i run the gears
[06:10] <easytiger> JuJuBee: cool. is it hard? i must try it sometime
[06:10] <PF-Away> glxgears
[06:11] <EugenS> i need help... my AMAROK doesnt play mp3s
[06:11] <eagles0513875> u dont have the codecs for it
[06:11] <K-Ryan> EugenS did you get the codec package?
[06:11] <PF-Away> !mp3 | EugenS
[06:11] <stdin> EugenS: installed libxine-extrecodecs ?
[06:11] <waylandbill> !restricted | EugenS
[06:11] <ubotu> EugenS: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:11] <easytiger> EugenS: don't panic!
[06:11] <eagles0513875> what stdin said eugen
[06:11] <EugenS> i dont know... im a new linux user ^^
[06:11] <K-Ryan> Then you dont have the codecs.
[06:11] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: darn nice, that speedtest.net
[06:11] <K-Ryan> In your Konsole, type this
[06:11] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:11] <TFrog> frankly, i don't care for amarok. i like xmms better
[06:11] <eagles0513875> how do i run the gears
[06:11] <PF-Away> ;)
[06:12] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:12] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: glxgears
[06:12] <easytiger> TFrog: you are twisted
[06:12] <stdin> EugenS: you'll need to enable the Multiverse repository first
[06:12] <K-Ryan> Oh yeah...
[06:12] <TFrog> no easytiger. i'm a certified geek. CompTIA A+ certified to boot
[06:12] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: try running beryl-manager
[06:12] <stdin> EugenS: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3#head-2ddd004a4fd8d0020c9ab94c5cea78ba9ee5caa9
[06:12] <easytiger> and that makes xmms any lessa piece of shit how?
[06:12] <eagles0513875> when i typed it in this is a message i always get
[06:12] <eagles0513875> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:13] <eagles0513875> xcomposite extension failed there is no xcomposite extensions
[06:13] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: something has crapped up...
[06:13] <TFrog> actually amarok is bloatware and trying to be too much like Winbloze media player. if i want light do it all i'll take vlc
[06:13] <EugenS> okay i will read and understand that all and... if amarok would not play i ask again ^^
[06:13] <EugenS> thx for the links
[06:14] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: can you paste the output of glxinfo?
[06:14] <PF-Away> TFrog: vlc is not light
[06:14] <PF-Away> amarok is lighter
[06:14] <PF-Away> ;)
[06:14] <PF-Away> afaik
[06:14] <Lynoure> TFrog: vlc does last.fm and podcasts?
[06:14] <easytiger> TFrog: its trying to be everything that WMP isn't
[06:14] <PF-Away> and scripting in any thinkable language?
[06:14] <easytiger> does vlc have an hugh DB capability build via metadata?
[06:15] <easytiger> *huge
[06:15] <TFrog> no but xmms dos SHOUTcast which is what i listen to. besides, if you read the papers lately, we may be seeing the end of internet radio
[06:15] <PF-Away> does vlc support SQL for storing your library?
[06:15] <PF-Away> amarok comes with a huge list of internet radio stations
[06:15] <easytiger> and try organising >950 albums with anoy other media player
[06:16] <exence> helo
[06:16] <eagles0513875> what was the last thing u said pf
[06:16] <TFrog> if i wanna database album info, i'll use a real database instead thank you very much
[06:16] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: glxinfo
[06:16] <easytiger> the gnome ones banshee bork and die at about 350
[06:16] <PF-Away> !paste | eagles0513875
[06:16] <ubotu> eagles0513875: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:16] <exence> j ai un pb de resolution
[06:16] <easytiger> TFrog: liek a mysql back end?
[06:16] <PF-Away> !fr
[06:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:16] <exence> helo
[06:16] <eagles0513875> i know pf
[06:16] <K-Ryan> exence, language?
[06:17] <PF-Away> TFrog: amarok has support for SQL-based databases, as well as defaulting to sqlite, in case no database is available
[06:17] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.ca/405282 there u go pf
[06:17] <TFrog> nah. i can develop a database for most anything out of OO Base
[06:17] <PF-Away> danke
[06:18] <TFrog> anyway, what i prefer may not be what others prefer. that's what open source is about. choice
[06:18] <easytiger> so you can build a DB faster than amarok for 10000 tracks TFrog. methinks i smell bullshit. and what use is OOo. why are you even mentioning it
[06:18] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: can you paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log too?
[06:18] <PF-Away> TFrog: you have to choose our new superior overlord, amaroK
[06:18] <PF-Away> :D
[06:19] <TFrog> hey PF-Away :P~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[06:19] <easytiger> resistance is futile
[06:19] <PF-Away> ;)
[06:19] <PF-Away> TFrog: have you tested amarok? if so, i won't bother you anymore;)
[06:19] <TFrog> besides, if i wanted 10000 tracks or more i'd use mysql to do the database anyway
[06:19] <PF-Away> i forgot, that eagles dude forgot to modprobe the fglrx kernel module...
[06:20] <easytiger> TFrog: how?
[06:20] <PF-Away> TFrog: amarok support MySQL very nice
[06:20] <easytiger> what do you mean  "i'd use mysql to do the database anyway"
[06:20] <easytiger> type them out in OOo?
[06:20] <PF-Away> :P
[06:20] <TFrog> PF-Away, i'm use to the old winbloze winamp. that's what makes xmms a natural for me
[06:20] <Schuenemann> hey, how can I find out how much RAM I havE?
[06:20] <PF-Away> TFrog: i used to use winamp too
[06:20] <easytiger> amarok has a winamp mode
[06:20] <exence> y a pas de francais
[06:20] <easytiger> me too
[06:20] <PF-Away> TFrog: choose xmms interface under option
[06:21] <PF-Away> !fr
[06:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:21] <eagles0513875> pf what was lat thing u said
[06:21] <pafnutiy> hi all! can you tell me, what's the best icq client for ubuntu?
[06:21] <exence> personne ne repond sur kubuntu fr
[06:21] <eagles0513875> beryl manager causes my comp to hang badly pf
[06:21] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: you need to modprobe fglrx, before logging in again
[06:21] <TFrog> anyway, i'm not here to debate the merits of specific software. later all
[06:21] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: "sudo modprobe fglrx"
[06:21] <PF-Away> or reboot
[06:21] <eagles0513875> after i do that reboot x
[06:21] <Schuenemann> pafnutiy, have you tried gaim?
[06:21] <PF-Away> yes
[06:21] <pafnutiy> i have
[06:22] <Schuenemann> and?
[06:22] <eagles0513875> brb again
[06:22] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: modprob'ing means to load the "driver", or kernel module
[06:22] <pafnutiy> u like it?
[06:22] <pafnutiy> i think its rather raw
[06:22] <PF-Away> kopete pwns
[06:22] <Schuenemann> I use it for gtalk... it's lightweight
[06:22] <Schuenemann> yes, it doesn't look like icq
[06:23] <Schuenemann> there is gaim, licq, kopete, sim...
[06:23] <PF-Away> Kopete = pure ownage
[06:23] <pafnutiy> have u tried sim?
[06:23] <JuJuBee> If I add a shared folder System->Administration->Shared Fodlers, do I need to restart? I used NFS to share.
[06:24] <Schuenemann> yes, but it was long ago
[06:24] <PF-Away> JuJuBee: just restart the nfs server, probably
[06:24] <eagles0513875> pf its still indirect
[06:24] <pafnutiy> how is it?
[06:24] <Schuenemann> was "raw"
[06:24] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: did you ctrl+alt+backspace?
[06:24] <eagles0513875> yep
[06:24] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: try to reboot
[06:24] <eagles0513875> reboot whole machine
[06:24] <pafnutiy> thanks
[06:24] <PF-Away> yup
[06:24] <eagles0513875> brb yet again
[06:24] <Schuenemann> hey, how can I find out how much RAM I have?
[06:24] <PF-Away> to make sure everything is loaded in like it shoud
[06:24] <eagles0513875> ok brb again
[06:25] <PF-Away> Schuenemann: vmstat -S M
[06:25] <Schuenemann> which field?
[06:25] <PF-Away> Schuenemann: more /proc/meminfo
[06:25] <PF-Away> easier to understand
[06:25] <PF-Away> or use KSysInfo
[06:26] <PF-Away> kinfocenter, i mean
[06:26] <PF-Away> :D
[06:26] <PF-Away> K-Menu -> System -> KInfoCenter
[06:26] <PF-Away> click on memory
[06:27] <Schuenemann> thanks
[06:27] <PF-Away> np
[06:28] <Ick> does anybody know anything about keyboard layouts?
[06:30] <CarinArr> gl.h should include it automatically tho
[06:30] <CarinArr> er bleh
[06:30] <CarinArr> wrong window
[06:32] <eagles0513875> pf its still indirect
[06:32] <Ick> my keyboard used to let me do alt gr
[06:32] <Ick> i have a german keyboard
[06:32] <Ick> alt gr is the right alt button
[06:32] <Ick> and serves as a meta button
[06:32] <Ick> it used to work until just recently
[06:33] <uciu> jest kto od polakw?
[06:33] <waylandbill> !pl
[06:33] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:34] <Ick> cool
[06:34] <Ick> !de
[06:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:34] <Ick> geil
[06:34] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: paste the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:35] <eagles0513875> ok hold on
[06:36] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.ca/405308 there it is pf
[06:37] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: you need to disable aiglx in your xorg.conf
[06:38] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: make a section ServerFlags with Option "AIGLX" "off"
[06:39] <EugenS> okay... have anyone a instruction to get mp3 codecs in german?
[06:39] <eagles0513875> could someone show me an edited version with that in it in the xorg config cuz i already played round wiht xconfig and fucked it up
[06:41] <bxnp> every configuration is different eagles0513875
[06:41] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: http://pastebin.ca/405319   this shows it in there.
[06:41] <eagles0513875> should i just copy paste it into one i have
[06:42] <eagles0513875> just copy and paste wayland
[06:42] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: yes the aiglx option in the server flags. not the whole file.
[06:42] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:42] <eagles0513875> where is that located what line
[06:42] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: you may need the composite option turned off too
[06:42] <eagles0513875> let me turn aiglx off first
[06:43] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: the section around line 89
[06:43] <eagles0513875> wat lines is that on
[06:43] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:43] <eagles0513875> just put it at end and reboot x
[06:43] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: should work
[06:43] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:44] <JuJuBee> Is there a post-it notes like program for ubuntu?
[06:44] <eagles0513875> where i put it in
[06:45] <eagles0513875> which file the file i pasted is log file
[06:45] <waylandbill> JuJuBee: knotes
[06:45] <JuJuBee> Does it matter I use gnome?
[06:45] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:45] <eagles0513875> ty
[06:45] <waylandbill> JuJuBee: there's maybe a gnome program.
[06:45] <rolando> hola
[06:45] <gemidjy> does apt-get logs its install/remove acitivities somewhere?
[06:46] <rolando> where is supposed to be my grub.conf its not in /boot nor /etc
[06:46] <waylandbill> JuJuBee: there's also some straight x ones like xpostit
[06:46] <eagles0513875> brb hope this works
[06:47] <eagles0513875> wayland its still indirect
[06:47] <rolando> where does kubuntu keep grub.conf?
[06:47] <eagles0513875> i believe its /.boot
[06:47] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: lets see the log now
[06:48] <eagles0513875> ok whats long again lol
[06:48] <rolando> eagles0513875: its not there
[06:48] <waylandbill> rolando: /boot/grub/menu.list
[06:48] <eagles0513875> i did glxinfo says mesaglx isindirect
[06:48] <eagles0513875> where is the log again /var/log
[06:48] <CarinArr> rolando you looking for grub.conf or menu.lst?
[06:48] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:49] <rolando> CarinArr: grub.conf
[06:49] <CarinArr> rolando: what are you wanting to edit?
[06:50] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.ca/405336
[06:50] <EugenS> if I type "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" the console tells me, that the "libxine-extracodecs" are NOT availebel
[06:50] <eagles0513875> use pkg manager
[06:50] <eagles0513875> type in xine
[06:51] <EugenS> pkg manager??? xine??? whats that? ^^
[06:51] <CarinArr> EugenS: they're in multiverse
[06:51] <eagles0513875> adept pkg manager
[06:51] <uciu> !pl
[06:51] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:51] <eagles0513875> under system first one in kmenu
[06:51] <CarinArr> EugenS: you need to enable the multiverse repository
[06:52] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled
[06:52] <CarinArr> !repositories | EugenS
[06:52] <ubotu> EugenS: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:52] <rolando> i want to change the time i have to wait
[06:52] <EugenS> yea but how @ carinarr
[06:52] <rolando> in menu grub
[06:52] <ackbahr> hello guys! I'm trying to install Danger from the Deep, and it comes as a bin file. But I have no idea about how to install it now! (got used to wonderful apt-get....) How should I do that?
[06:52] <eagles0513875> really then y is it when i run glxinfo mesa3d is indirect
[06:52] <waylandbill> rolando: you set that in menu.lst
[06:52] <JuJuBee> OK, now that I have nfs and nis running, I need to move the students home directories from an old (Gentoo) server to the new (Ubuntu) server.  I was thinking of using tar to do that.  How can I tar a directory and untar it on the other end preserving ownership perms etc?
[06:52] <CarinArr> rolando: you do that in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:52] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: fglrxinfo
[06:53] <rolando> ok thanx
[06:53] <eagles0513875> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:53] <eagles0513875> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:53] <eagles0513875> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:53] <eagles0513875> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[06:53] <eagles0513875> y is it saying indirect
[06:54] <chance> Hi. In using pam_wheel.so, can I specify Active Directory groups with the group option like so? group="Domain Admins" ?
[06:55] <waylandbill> #
[06:55] <waylandbill> (EE) fglrx(0): [06:55] <eagles0513875> ?
[06:55] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: the only errors I see are that.
[06:56] <eagles0513875> does that mean i have gl support
[06:56] <eagles0513875> or no support yet
[06:56] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: try fgl_glxgears and see if it runs
[06:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:57] <eagles0513875> opened for a brief sec and then quit
[06:57] <ackbahr> Ah, as I downloaded the sourceforge page with the name of the bin file, it was never going to work....
[06:57] <ackbahr> gfbgfbtgfbff
[06:57] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: then you probably don't have the glx running. :-/
[06:57] <eagles0513875> how do i get it to run
[06:58] <morgWork> hey guys
[06:59] <eagles0513875> pf u still there any ideas
[06:59] <morgWork> any particular reason kmail and korganizer don't have icons in the kmenu?
[06:59] <miltos> beryl manager doesn't start automatically
[06:59] <ackbahr> Well, I'll bang my head somewhere esle.... See you someday!
[06:59] <waylandbill> miltos: put a symlink to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:00] <waylandbill> !autostart | miltos
[07:00] <ubotu> miltos: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:00] <romeo> how can i fix this problem: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes."
[07:01] <miltos> waylandbill, the problem is that beryl doesn't start from System---->Beryl, i have to type in console "beryl-manager"
[07:01] <waylandbill> right. you need to make a symbolic link.
[07:01] <waylandbill> romeo: xlibs-dev
[07:02] <CarinArr> anyone around here using kiba-dock?
[07:02] <miltos> waylandbill, how do i make a symbolic link?
[07:02] <waylandbill> ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:03] <romeo> waylandbill: thanks
[07:04] <miltos> waylandbill, thanks...i will try and be back
[07:04] <eagles0513875> im trying a game that i need gl for
[07:04] <eagles0513875> hope it works
[07:04] <eagles0513875> its world of warcraft
[07:05] <eagles0513875> why does it terminate unexpectedly
[07:06] <romeo> waylandbill: Now it tells me i need something called qt.. i tried "apt-get install qt" but couldn't find it. any ideas?
[07:06] <waylandbill> romeo: 3 or 4?
[07:07] <romeo> waylandbill: hecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (I guess anything above 3?) i just started using linux 2 days ago so i am newbie to all this
[07:07] <waylandbill> libqt4-dev should do it
[07:08] <eagles0513875> how do i unlock adept
[07:08] <eagles0513875> cuz pkgs couldnt be installed
[07:08] <waylandbill> romeo: two days in and building software. sounds like you're jumping right in. :-)
[07:08] <waylandbill> !adeptfix
[07:08] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:09] <eagles0513875> ty wayland
[07:09] <eagles0513875> what good programs suites r there for kubuntu
[07:09] <romeo> waylandbill: I have no idea what I am doing to be honest =).. Trying to install themes and styles on my KDE. since i like it i thought that this will help me learn faster since its something fun.. Uhm.. =) Worked fine. thank you very much
[07:09] <eagles0513875> wayland what bout my fglrx probs
[07:10] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: I'm not sure on that issue. sorry
[07:10] <eagles0513875> anyone else have any ideas
[07:10] <romeo> waylandbill: i take that back =) hecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.. It says it needs headers and libraries
[07:10] <romeo> eagles0513875: I had prob with the fglrx, anything special?
[07:11] <waylandbill> romeo: okay. sounds like it wants 3, not 4. libqt3-mt-dev. :-D
[07:11] <eagles0513875> how did u get it to run romeo
[07:11] <eagles0513875> my mesa glx still says indirect and installed beryl
[07:11] <oliver> hi
[07:12] <romeo> eagles0513875:  wasn't it you i send that url on the howto page?
[07:13] <oliver> hey, did someone notice amarok not playing mp3s after latest repo updates (feisty herd5)
[07:13] <eagles0513875> ya
[07:13] <eagles0513875> i already have beryl installed
[07:13] <romeo> eagles0513875: Oh then I dunno =/
[07:13] <eagles0513875> and i changed aglx in xorg cfg
[07:14] <eagles0513875> way what was that other thing u said i might have to change
[07:14] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: it's already changed
[07:14] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:14] <m_> hey oki
[07:14] <eagles0513875> well i guess ill have to try this topic another day then lol
[07:14] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: you running an xgl session or standard kde x session?
[07:15] <eagles0513875> kde
[07:15] <eagles0513875> should i run xgl
[07:15] <m_> : you running an xgl session or standard kde x session?
[07:15] <eagles0513875> standarde kde
[07:15] <eagles0513875> does it give me an option
[07:15] <m_> kool
[07:15] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: it should at the kdm menu I thought
[07:15] <eagles0513875> will i still get a desktop like a regular kde session
[07:16] <waylandbill> yeah
[07:16] <eagles0513875> brb
[07:21] <eagles0513875> way all i get is a black screen name
[07:21] <eagles0513875> *screen
[07:22] <oliver> hey, did someone notice amarok not playing mp3s after latest repo updates (feisty herd5)
[07:25] <Tm_T> sparrw: please don't do that ever again
[07:25] <eagles0513875> what he do
[07:26] <Tm_T> unneeded ctcp call for whole channel
[07:26] <sparrw> Tm_T: please don't do that ever again
[07:26] <sparrw> unneeded privmsg call for whole channel
[07:26] <PirateHead> I installed the kubntu-desktop package on normal Ubuntu and now it uses the Kubuntu usplash screen. How do I switch it back to the Ubuntu one?
[07:26] <Tm_T> sparrw: funny?
[07:27] <funky_D> how do u unmount a usb device?
[07:27] <sparrw> Tm_T: no more so than yours
[07:27] <eagles0513875> someone kick ban
[07:27] <Tm_T> sparrw: well, I was serious, I don't like that kind of things to be done
[07:28] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: well that's quite harsh
[07:28] <m_> hello, how may I add a graphical interface on grub???
[07:28] <sparrw> Tm_T: is there some alternative to find/acquire everyone's avatars?
[07:28] <Tm_T> sparrw: no idea, nor care, still don't like it
[07:28] <bentob0x> how come I can't su root on Kubuntu?
[07:28] <Skuller> whats an avatar in this IRC?
[07:28] <eagles0513875> tm may i pm r u registered
[07:28] <m_> goodbye monkey
[07:28] <eagles0513875> u have to sudo bentob
[07:28] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: sure
[07:28] <bentob0x> yea but sudo doesn't work for cd
[07:29] <sparrw> Skuller: a small picture that represents a person.  you may have encountered them on forums or IM software
[07:29] <funky_D> how do u unmount a usb device?
[07:29] <funky_D> umount........?
[07:29] <eagles0513875> what u trying to do ben
[07:29] <Skuller> sparrw: i have...i meant where is this thing on IRC, like here?
[07:29] <sparrw> funky_D: "umount /dev/sda1" usually, unless you have other libata/scsi/usb devices
[07:29] <bentob0x> mount an ntfs drive and then hop in it
[07:30] <funky_D> sparrw: it says not found
[07:30] <eagles0513875> u want read write access ben
[07:30] <eagles0513875> ben u registered so i may pm
[07:30] <bentob0x> sure
[07:30] <sparrw> funky_D: then its probably elsewhere.  is the device on your desktop?
[07:31] <sparrw> funky_D: or in your 'storage media' place in konqueror?
[07:32] <chijin> wouldn't it be easier to type 'mount' in console and see what the device is
[07:34] <kristjan_> kubuntu does not have +1 channel like ubuntu has?
[07:35] <aluno> tem algum brasileiro ??
[07:36] <atidem> hello
[07:36] <funky_D> chijin: thats a good idea.. i will try.
[07:40] <ackbahr> Hi all! Can't run accelerated 3D games, whereas beryl, for example, runs.... Any idea?
[07:41] <Ryiel> vid card?
[07:42] <ackbahr> Radeon 9600 Mobility.
[07:42] <chijin> heh
[07:42] <ackbahr> And I have the direct render : yes ....
[07:42] <chijin> you can't run 3d games in beryl
[07:42] <chijin> with an ati card
[07:42] <chijin> ..as far as i know
[07:43] <Ryiel> chijin: i cant even run beryl with my ati card.. (but i can run games :D )
[07:43] <ackbahr> chijin: Didn't try that, of course (would dream of it), just mentionned beryl to say 3D accel works!
[07:43] <chijin> my ati runs beryl nicely :-P
[07:43] <Ryiel> chijin: help me then ;)
[07:43] <Ryiel> how to set it up?
[07:43] <Ryiel> ackbahr: im using fglrx driver to play games.
[07:44] <chijin> Ryiel: there are plenty of good tutorials on ubuntuforums and on the beryl website. i just used a compination of them and got it working
[07:44] <ackbahr> Ryiel: want my xorg.conf that works for beryl?
[07:44] <Ryiel> yeah, that would be good
[07:44] <Ryiel> thanks
[07:44] <Ryiel> !paste
[07:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:45] <Ryiel> chijin: I've read many tutorials but none of them worked :(
[07:45] <n8k99> anybody here use a pen tablet?
[07:46] <Skuller> Ryiel: please be reminded that the link to pastebin is in the channel topic. Please do not flood the channel by by !paste
[07:46] <Ryiel> Oh, sorry
[07:46] <eagles0513875> can anyone explain to me when i try to log into xgl desktop all i get is a black screen
[07:47] <mirshafie> anybody here using feisty? is it stable? or at least not as buggy as edgy? :)
[07:47] <eagles0513875> wont it be more buggy than edgy
[07:47] <mirshafie> eagles0513875: if its more buggy than edgy im switching to dapper
[07:47] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:48] <Skuller> mirshafie: what do you mean by "buggy as edgy"?....Edgy is not even close to being as buggy as Feisty which is not even in beta stage yet
[07:48] <eagles0513875> that is my point skull any new os is going to be rather buggy
[07:48] <eagles0513875> not to mention not that much support
[07:48] <eagles0513875> can anyone explain to me when i try to log into xgl desktop all i get is a black screen
[07:48] <Skuller> yes...true
[07:48] <mirshafie> Skuller: in other words, it's not a good idea to switch to feisty if the bugs in edgy are killing me?
[07:49] <eagles0513875> what kind bugs mir
[07:49] <Skuller> mirshafie: yes it is not...to whatever bugs you refer to
[07:50] <eagles0513875> ask the problems ur haveing we might be able to help ya fix em
[07:50] <Skuller> !feisty | mirshafie - Go to this channel to further clarify your query
[07:50] <ubotu> mirshafie - Go to this channel to further clarify your query: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:51] <mirshafie> eagles0513875: well, totally weird character rendering for one. after a few weeks into a fresh edgy install, it would start slowing down to the point that it wasn't useful anymore. i never had any problems like that with warty, hoary or dapper
[07:51] <eagles0513875> mir run sudo apt-get autoclean
[07:52] <eagles0513875> it cleans out all of install stuff that is left behind after pkg install
[07:52] <eagles0513875> and 2ndly how much ram and swap u have
[07:52] <mirshafie> i'm not on kubuntu anymore. switched to sabayon a few days back but sabayon is REALLY buggy :D
[07:52] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:52] <mirshafie> 512 mb ram/swap
[07:52] <eagles0513875> come back to kubuntu
[07:52] <mirshafie> i will :D
[07:52] <eagles0513875> i have 1.2gb with 256 swap
[07:52] <eagles0513875> works like a charm
[07:53] <eagles0513875> not even using 256 of physical ram
[07:53] <eagles0513875> more like 250mb
[07:53] <eagles0513875> right now im using no swap
[07:53] <eagles0513875> 250mb of ram
[07:54] <eagles0513875> give it another try mir
[07:54] <mirshafie> well, i don't think the ram is the problem. my problems were more like, everything works fine until BAM everything just slows down or crashes. + i it had some real issues with shutdown, sometimes it would freeze and stuff. and i've installed edgy cleanly at least five times since official release
[07:54] <eagles0513875> what file system did u use
[07:54] <mirshafie> ext3
[07:55] <eagles0513875> i have ext3 and im on duel boot
[07:55] <eagles0513875> u using duel boot
[07:55] <mirshafie> no. just linux for me
[07:55] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:55] <eagles0513875> humm
[07:55] <chijin> duel boot sounds like a serious fight between two OS's
[07:55] <Skuller> k laterz all..i am off to my sucking high schook
[07:55] <eagles0513875> no
[07:55] <Skuller> school
[07:55] <eagles0513875> u on one at a time
[07:55] <eagles0513875> not on both at same time
[07:56] <eagles0513875> mir try kubuntu again
[07:56] <eagles0513875> did u install alot of pkgs
[07:56] <eagles0513875> mir how old is the machine
[07:56] <mirshafie> eagles0513875: what's the point? at least sabayon hasn't started slowing down like a win95 yet? :)
[07:56] <eagles0513875> i cant even get it to work on the laptop
[07:56] <mirshafie> about four years. it's a p4
[07:57] <eagles0513875> i could be a hdd going bad on ya
[07:57] <eagles0513875> do u have a new comp or laptop
[07:58] <eagles0513875> mir
[07:58] <bobdhicks> Would someone help me learn to install new programs in kubuntu? No. 1: I don't know linux. When I use install program/files, I can't get to the cd where the programs are. I can't add it to the system. All that is there goes to the net. So far, I haven't been able to get my wireless router to work. I converted my laptop over completely to Kubuntu. I've read and tried to follow the directions in Help. Can't get Help for Adapt.
[07:58] <mirshafie> yea, my hdd does have issues for sure. but i'm not sure if the problems i have are related.
[07:59] <JohnFlux_> How do I turn on my wireless card?
[07:59] <JohnFlux_> I've set the ip, set the mode, set the essid
[07:59] <eagles0513875> lol good luck with that john
[07:59] <JohnFlux_> ifconfig shows it up
[07:59] <eagles0513875> interesting
[07:59] <JohnFlux_> i think i'm just missing a command :-)
[07:59] <Ryiel> is it right? exec kde-session ?
[07:59] <eagles0513875> what is it showing john
[07:59] <eagles0513875> is ur wifi wlan0
[08:00] <JohnFlux_> it's ra0
[08:00] <eagles0513875> ra??
[08:00] <eagles0513875> never seen that before
[08:00] <JohnFlux_> iwconfig  shows Tx-power = 0dBm
[08:00] <mirshafie> bobdhicks: hit Alt+F2 and type 'kdesu adept-installer'. that should bring you to a more useful GUI than the Add/Remove programs thingy
[08:00] <JohnFlux_> eagles0513875: there's a reason but I forget it
[08:01] <JohnFlux_> eagles0513875: same as wlan etc though
[08:01] <eagles0513875> ok try ra0 up
[08:01] <eagles0513875> i think thats it
[08:01] <JohnFlux_> eagles0513875: iwconfig ?
[08:01] <eagles0513875> no there is some command to bring the wlan up
[08:01] <eagles0513875> meaning turn it on
[08:02] <JohnFlux_> yeah I think there is
[08:02] <n8k99> how do i tell kde that my mouse only has two buttons?
[08:02] <mirshafie> bobdhicks: if it doesn't help, i always prefer to use the terminal. you can fire up Konsole and use apt-get to install something. Example: type "sudo apt-get install yakuake" to install yakuake; type "apt-cache search network card" to search for network cards
[08:03] <eagles0513875> any luck john
[08:04] <matlec> hi
[08:04] <bigdad1e> how do i get to the network manager? the whois is what im looking for
[08:04] <matlec> can anyone tell me how to burn a cd with wodim? ;-)
[08:05] <matlec> wodim /path/to/iso returns http://www.pastebin.ca/405428
[08:05] <bigdad1e> !whois
[08:06] <ubotu> whois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 272 kB
[08:09] <bigdad1e> how do i use whois?
[08:09] <bigdad1e> terminal?
[08:10] <Tm_T> bigdad1e: whois in IRC or whois in network?
[08:10] <bigdad1e> in network
[08:10] <Tm_T> whois --help gives basic instructions
[08:10] <Tm_T> --help is your friend most of the time :)
[08:11] <bigdad1e> thanks
[08:11] <bigdad1e> but i did it in ubuntu and it pulled up all my info my name address and all
[08:12] <bigdad1e> it was in some network settings or something of that sort
[08:12] <Tm_T> "whois kubuntu.org" as example
[08:13] <bigdad1e> yes but it wasnt in the terminal
[08:14] <bigdad1e> nevermind i got it
[08:14] <bigdad1e> thanks
[08:14] <Tm_T> np
[08:14] <bigdad1e> see it pulled up my phone number and all
[08:14] <bigdad1e> scarey
[08:15] <mattrperry> hello...is this a channel to get help for newbies?
[08:15] <eagles0513875> yes
[08:15] <BluesKaj> ask away mattrperry :)
[08:16] <mattrperry> I am literally brand new to Linux and the Kubuntu dist ... but I wanted to install in on our home network computers so that my son and I can learn it etc
[08:16] <eagles0513875> what operating system do u currently have on ur computers
[08:16] <eagles0513875> and do u have any data u want to keep on there
[08:17] <mattrperry> I've got 2 pc's both now have edgy installed
[08:18] <eagles0513875> ok what else do u want to do
[08:18] <eagles0513875> wiht them besides network them
[08:19] <mattrperry> I was wanting to create a new repository file sources.list and then put it in the folder etc for adept and synaptic to use etc
[08:19] <mattrperry> went to source-o-matic and created a new sources.list file
[08:20] <mattrperry> and now I want to use it in place of the default
[08:20] <eagles0513875> ok lol im sru im not much help
[08:20] <eagles0513875> still fairly new to kubuntu
[08:20] <mattrperry> right on
[08:21] <mattrperry> are you running any bleeding edge stuff?
[08:21] <eagles0513875> all i can recommend is looking through the adept pkg manager for already compiled programs to install
[08:21] <eagles0513875> u mean like fedora lol
[08:21] <eagles0513875> no just edgy here
[08:21] <morvok> anyone know of a good capturing app?
[08:21] <mattrperry> right on
[08:21] <chijin> i recommend editing the sources.list from console
[08:21] <chijin> much easier
[08:21] <eagles0513875> wish i coudl be of more help
[08:22] <mattrperry> how do I do that? lol
[08:22] <mattrperry> using Kate?
[08:22] <chijin> but anyway, here's a way how to do it http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:22] <chijin> just replace sudo gedit with kdesu kate
[08:23] <iwonka> mwi kto po POLSKU?
[08:23] <Skuller> !pl
[08:23] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:23] <mattrperry> and will I be able to save it to the directory? ... so far it tells me that I have to have root to save the new sources.list file etc
[08:23] <Skuller> !bug 1
[08:23] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:23] <iwonka> ok dzikuje
[08:24] <chijin> mattrperry: open up konsole from the system menu, type in kdesu kate, and you'll be able to save it. kdesu opens software in root mode in kde
[08:25] <mattrperry> right on...thanks
[08:27] <eagles0513875> ttyl all
[08:27] <rhkfin_> Can anyone remember where can I find the new kubuntu feisty upgrade tool to try..
[08:28] <rhkfin_> There was a blog post about it somewhere some days ago, afair
[08:28] <kunwon1> rhkfin_: /topic
[08:29] <rhkfin_> kunwon1: indeed..
[08:29] <tarnold> oi oi
[08:29] <kunwon1> :)
[08:29] <tarnold> so whats the difference between opensuse and kubuntu?
[08:30] <tarnold> yast is annoying
[08:33] <bxnp> how can i change the themes for gtk apps
[08:34] <bxnp> and improve the qualtiy of the fonts wich are used cause they look damm ugly
[08:34] <BluesKaj> !fiesty | rhkfin_
[08:34] <ubotu> rhkfin_: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:34] <tarnold> hey in source o matic when it says create sources list for both options how do i get them both into one list?
[08:36] <tarnold> hello?
[08:38] <tarnold> ?
[08:40] <JohnFlux_> Heh, I bought the cheapest pcmcia network card I could find
[08:40] <JohnFlux_> and it came with a cd with linux drivers
[08:40] <Alumin> so, what's "The Debian Way(tm)" to add jobs to the startup process?
[08:41] <verms> Hi!
[08:41] <Alumin> I guess, make a script in /etc/init.d and symlink it into /etc/rcS.d ... but that seems a bit overkill just to run one command
[08:41] <BluesKaj> tarnold . open your sources list in the runbox " kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list "  , then you can edit and add sources by copy and paste
[08:41] <verms> I've got a problem with Kaffeine
[08:41] <verms> he doesn't start
[08:42] <tarnold> ok, cos i put opensuse on my system but forgot to back up my sources list in case i went back to kubuntu(i probably will) so what is fiesty supposed to have in terms of laptop support
[08:42] <miltos> ok...with beryl, at last
[08:42] <miltos> beryl theme manager has a nice vista theme...
[08:43] <BluesKaj> dunno, check fiesty at #ubuntu+1
[08:43] <aaron_> downloading open arena right now has anyone here tried it at all
[08:43] <aaron_> it sounds pretty good
[08:43] <miltos> and finally i hooked up the printer on my kubuntu...and send Windowz to the devil!
[08:43] <BluesKaj> open arena ... ?
[08:44] <aaron_> yea its like an open source game based around the quake 3 source
[08:44] <BluesKaj> <--- sorry not a gamr
[08:44] <aaron_> its coo
[08:45] <BluesKaj> well, that's a matter of taste for sure
[08:45] <aaron_> well if anyone wants a link its www.openarena.ws
[08:49] <Gunirus> pauljw: here?
[08:49] <pauljw> hey
[08:50] <miltos> is there any *.par tool for reconstructing *.rar files?
[08:54] <miltos> why you reconstruct rar files in kubuntu?
[08:59] <k3ks> Hi!
[08:59] <aaron_> what is the best image editor for Kubuntu is it Gimp or is there another
[08:59] <k3ks> Got a question
[08:59] <aaron_> sup
[09:00] <k3ks> where can I see what driver is used for my hardware?
[09:00] <k3ks> aaron_: what do like to draw? for vector graphics inkscape or xara is good
[09:01] <aaron_> I have inkscape but I am looking for something more professional
[09:01] <aaron_> also I would like to do some flash and was wondering if there was any programs to do those kinda animations.
[09:02] <k3ks> aaron_: hmm, then i've got know idea, only to try running photoshop with wine
[09:02] <aaron_> yea
[09:02] <aaron_> I might
[09:02] <aaron_> do that
[09:02] <Lord_Cerber> Hi all. I ve got the dvd image made in .mdf format - some windows dvd ripper's output. Is there any way to open or mount it in linux?
[09:08] <k3ks> Lord_Cerber: http://mdf2iso.berlios.de/
[09:08] <k3ks> googled it
[09:09] <leigh> hey! i'm leigh. i have a question - how much memory should X be using up? its hogging all my resources! any ideas?
[09:09] <k3ks> karamba can take a lot of it
[09:09] <k3ks> got that problem with a widget clock
[09:10] <Lord_Cerber> k3ks thanks! Seems i.m a bad googler :)
[09:10] <leigh> ok. when i run ksysguard it shows X as using 266mn VmSize and 50MB VmRss. which is the right measure?
[09:10] <k3ks> no idea
[09:10] <leigh> ah ok!
[09:10] <leigh> cheers anyway.
[09:11] <amorphous_> andy
[09:11] <Nullbyte> Hey guys! Can anyone tell me why the livecd Kubuntu 6.10 just shows a black screen after doing the boot stuff? Ubuntu 6.06 livecd boots fine
[09:12] <k3ks> so back to my question: where can I see what driver is used for my hardware?
[09:12] <amorphous_> andy
[09:12] <amorphous_> andy_,
[09:12] <me2win> !flash
[09:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:12] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:13] <amorphous_> in here...
[09:13] <andy_> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia#Retrieval_of_package_files_from_the_nVidia_webserver
[09:13] <amorphous_> anyone here use beryl?
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> hello everybody, automounting suddenly stopped working...
[09:14] <amorphous_> andy_, whenever you'r speaking to someone, put their name at the start of the line - you can put a few letters and then hit TAB to autocomplete - same as in bash
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> I can still mount with the normal "sudo mount technique"
[09:14] <Tm_T> hmm, am I only one who suffers too hard focus robbery from Firefox ?
[09:14] <k3ks> amorphous_: yes i'm using beryl
[09:15] <andy_> amorphous_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia#Retrieval_of_package_files_from_the_nVidia_webserver
[09:15] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: you can disable that in the control center... and yes..I happened to me
[09:15] <amorphous_> andy_, and if you go out of this window - there should be a line or something to mark where you left so you can check for stuff///
[09:15] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: hm?
[09:15] <amorphous_> k3ks - don't suppose you're using an nvidia card, are you?
[09:15] <nosrednaekim> run the command "kcontrol"
[09:15] <amorphous_> andy_, ta ;)
[09:15] <k3ks> amorphous_:  yes i'm using nvidia
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> desktop-> WindowSpecific settings
[09:16] <andy_> k3ks: I'm having trouble getting beryl to work with nvidia
[09:17] <k3ks> read the beryl faq?
[09:17] <amorphous_> k3ks, I'm just gonna look some stuff up on a link andy gave me... He's been having a bit of a nightmare with beryl/nvidia. is very new to linux, but has intelligence ;) - may wanna pick your brains in a bit... that ok?
[09:17] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: aah, well, you don't hold my hand, IMHO this shouldn't need any windowspecific settings
[09:17] <amorphous_> getting there...
[09:17] <andy_> k3ks: any tips?
[09:17] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: btw windowspecific settings are easiest reached by rightclicking titlebar of app window ;)
[09:17] <k3ks> amorphous_: oh i'm not a linux brain^^
[09:17] <k3ks> I#m still very new
[09:18] <k3ks> one moment
[09:18] <amorphous_> k3ks, got beryl working though... :P
[09:19] <k3ks> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia
[09:19] <k3ks> that may help
[09:19] <jimmy_> how do i join other irc networks like Dalnet?
[09:19] <amorphous_> andy - how much of the webpage did you go through? you have the file... did you do the text browser thing too & log out of x?
[09:19] <Nullbyte> Um, guys? When is Feisty going to be released?
[09:20] <amorphous_> k3ks, thanks... am going through another too....
[09:20] <faLUCE> Hi. how can i show info of my network adapter?
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: you need to disable focus stealing for Firefox, by creating a new window specific setting, putting firefox as the command, and disabling focus stealing
[09:20] <k3ks> faLUCE: ifconfig
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> !fiesty
[09:20] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:20] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: I know
[09:20] <andy_> k3ks: cheers, I'll have another go. Are you using 64bit?
[09:20] <Nullbyte> Thanks nosrednaekim
[09:20] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: did this happen over one desktop to other?
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: and its not working>
[09:21] <k3ks> andy_:  don't know^^
[09:21] <faLUCE> k3ks: i mean hardware infos
[09:21] <faLUCE> (manufacturer, model etc.)
[09:21] <maki> i run autoremove and now i dont have some very important apps
[09:21] <maki> how can i install them again
[09:21] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: I'm not looking for "how I get rid of it" hack but looking if this is bug and need to be someway solved reasonably
[09:21] <k3ks> got a intel cor2duo
[09:21] <maki> in fiesty
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: oh I see....I don't know...
[09:22] <k3ks> don't know  more
[09:22] <k3ks> so but now i#ve got a problem too,
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> So can anyone help me? I have a problem with automounting..
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> k3ks: yeah?
[09:22] <blue|palm> My friend is trying to install kubuntu but it seems his driver isnt supported, so i gave him the ubuntu alternate cd
[09:22] <blue|palm> but now he cant login without x failing
[09:22] <k3ks> how can i figure out what dirver my wlan card is using?
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> k3ks: lsmod?
[09:23] <blue|palm> what can I tell him? Hes tried all the drivers in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> and look through that list of a wireless driver
[09:23] <leigh> has anyone had problems connecting MTP device to amarok?
[09:23] <leigh> or is it just me ;-)
[09:24] <jimmy_> how do i join other irc networks like Dalnet?
[09:24] <cpk1> leigh: what version of amarok?
[09:24] <leigh> the latest - 0.4.5 is it?
[09:24] <cpk1> leigh: iirc the newest amarok should come with full ipod/whatever support
[09:24] <Nullbyte> jimmy_: Try visiting their website, it usually says
[09:24] <leigh> and i've compiled it with mtp options - but when i try to connect it crashes
[09:25] <leigh> i'm sure i've compiled it ok - it just seems to crash!
[09:25] <nosrednaekim> leigh: oh connect to your device or under normal use?
[09:25] <nosrednaekim> *on
[09:25] <leigh> just on connect to devide.
[09:26] <cpk1> leigh: also might want to ask in #amarok =)
[09:26] <k3ks> hm i don't get it with lsmod, theres a long list but i can't finde anything called wlan
[09:26] <leigh> ah i've just started using irc, didn't know there was a channel! i'm gonna head over there  - cheers guys
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> k3ks: what card do you have?
[09:27] <crusty> hello! automatix can not continue because some kays could not be downloaded....any help!!!thanks
[09:27] <k3ks> nosrednaekim: dlink
[09:27] <cpk1> k3ks: pretty sure it should say what driver when you do sudo lshw
[09:27] <k3ks> nosrednaekim: dwl g520+
[09:28] <katia_> hello everybody
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> k3ks: do you know what the chipset is?
[09:29] <katia_> how can i see encripted videos? i have downloaded fron amule.
[09:30] <k3ks> nosrednaekim: no, i lookt into the manual but can't find it
[09:31] <cpk1> k3ks: do "sudo lshw" that should tell you the chipset and it should also say the driver if it is already trying to use one for it
[09:32] <k3ks> cpk1: driver=acx_pci
[09:32] <k3ks> thats the driver?
[09:32] <katia_> someone genius in amule please
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> yep....now what did the "product" say
[09:32] <dinoilpostino> ciao a tutti
[09:32] <k3ks>  product: ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface
[09:33] <dinoilpostino> cercavo info inerenti all' UMTS
[09:33] <k3ks> the thing is, I want to use it with arisnort^^
[09:34] <cpk1> k3ks: ok... and you need to know the driver you have why?
[09:35] <crusty> hi guys..............is it automatix still down??????????
[09:35] <LjL> ask in their channel, we don't deal with automatix here, and kind of discourage it. totally.
[09:35] <k3ks> cpk1: you have to select the driver in airsnort
[09:35] <maki> is there a way to make a apt comand that will work on every app
[09:36] <crusty> whitch channel????
[09:37] <dinoilpostino> bye bye
[09:37] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-get install <package name>
[09:38] <Nullbyte> maki: What do you mean?
[09:39] <maki> i run autoremove (i mistaken it with autoclean
[09:39] <pollyo> Hello
[09:40] <pollyo> I have some superkurumba apps running on my desktop anyone else here familiar with it?
[09:42] <wouterh> pollyo: I have some superkaramba themes running, but I am not an expert
[09:43] <maki> pollyo:what you need
[09:43] <txwikinger> Anybody know where /var/run is mounted?
[09:43] <meme-2> Hello folks.... anyone familiar with K3b?  I am having a problem with verification (after write)... K3b fails everytime... stating it cannot find the first file and then it aborts.
[09:43] <Nullbyte> txwikinger: Look in /etc/mtab
[09:44] <Trickser> hi, i have installed the acroread-7.0.9 package. When I look into the help menu the version of Acrobat Reader it shows it is the 7.0.8 version... why?
[09:44] <Nullbyte> meme-2: Sure its not a problem with your drive?
[09:44] <meme-2> The burn seems successful otherwise.
[09:44] <txwikinger> Nullbyte: right, but isn't that just a reflection of the mounts?
[09:44] <meme-2> Nullbyte: thx for reply.  The drive is fine and so is the burn each time.
[09:45] <Nullbyte> txwikinger: Also shows where they are mounted? :)
[09:45] <romeo> how do you make the panel gets 100% transparant?
[09:46] <Nullbyte> meme-2: Oh. I dont know then, dont they have an IRC channel?
[09:46] <txwikinger> true.. .I want to mount /var/run with an additional option
[09:46] <wouterh> txwikinger: om my kubuntu edgy: varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[09:46] <meme-2> Nullbyte: No IRC channel (at least non that I can find)
[09:46] <txwikinger> Nullbyte: cool thanks,.., it worked
[09:46] <meme-2> I'll check again
[09:47] <txwikinger> I changed it in mtab and did mount -a
[09:47] <wouterh> txwikinger: so I guess it's a fs in ram
[09:47] <Nullbyte> meme-2: A forum then? Not sure if this is the best place to ask :)
[09:47] <Nullbyte> txwikinger: You are welcome!
[09:47] <txwikinger> wouterh: yes it is
[09:47] <pollyo> wouterh: I just noticed today that the apps running can have icons stuck underthem.
[09:48] <pollyo> Anyone know if there is an option to keep this from happening?
[09:48] <txwikinger> hmm.. I think I faked myself out
[09:48] <maki> romeo:right click on panel,if its locked unlock it,go on configure panel,looks and enable transparant,then advanced and take the slidebar to the left side
[09:48] <txwikinger> mount just displays the information from mtab
[09:49] <bw153> is there anything that is similar to the EQ analyzers in amarok, but a fullscreen version?
[09:49] <Nullbyte> txwikinger: Oh, try fstab then? ;)
[09:49] <Nullbyte> txwikinger: and edit mtab back again, its just a list of what is mounted and where
[09:50] <Nullbyte> txwikinger: fstab is where stuff is going to be mounted
[09:50] <txwikinger> yes.. but the tmpfs stuff is not in fastab
[09:50] <Nullbyte> txwikinger: No?
[09:50] <Nullbyte> txwikinger: Can you send me your mtab in a private message? :)
[09:52] <txwikinger> hmm.. I have edited mtab again.. I think now it does what I want
[09:53] <txwikinger> At least the error complaining about the option missing in the mount is not occuring anymore
[09:53] <the-erm> Anyone know how to turn of the kubuntu splash screen at startup?  I seeing all the [ OK ]  messages.
[09:54] <c0nv1ct> the-erm: all the OK messages? what do you mean?
[09:54] <romeo> What configuration is what shows all the list items in different colors? for example the nicks here.. One is dark grey and the other is lightgrey and then dark then light and so on.. Shows everywhere i have a list of several things.. Anyone knows what I mean?
[09:55] <wouterh> txwikinger: in /etc/init.d/mtab.sh varrun is added to mtab during boot
[09:56] <the-erm> c0nv1ct: in other distros I've used you get messages like ... * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent postfix                                            [ ok ] 
[09:56] <txwikinger> ah think wouterh
[09:56] <the-erm> While you're booting.
[09:56] <txwikinger> thanks
[09:56] <c0nv1ct> the-erm: oh, the boot splash
[09:57] <c0nv1ct> the-erm: edit your grub.conf and remove "quiet" i believe that will make booting verbose
[09:57] <the-erm> ok
[09:57] <the-erm> thanks.
[09:57] <maki> what was the name of the kubuntu conf. app
[09:58] <c0nv1ct> maki: for what? general configuration?
[09:58] <maki> yes
[09:59] <c0nv1ct> maki: kcontrol is one, systemsettings is another
[09:59] <maki> ok thakns
[10:03] <rigved> hi... is it ok to simply delete the eclipse folder to uninstall it?
[10:03] <Nullbyte> rigved: Nope
[10:04] <Nullbyte> rigved: Absolutely not
[10:04] <rigved> well.... i already did that..
[10:04] <rigved> what shud i do now?
[10:04] <Nullbyte> rigved: write apt-get remove eclipse
[10:04] <rigved> just a sec.... thanks in advance anyways
[10:04] <Nullbyte> rigved: Restore it from your trash? :x
[10:05] <miltos> digikam can not handle my Olympus C-350Z why?
[10:05] <Nullbyte> Does digikam support that camera?
[10:06] <rigved> trash is empty... shift deleted it... old windows habit
[10:06] <rigved> i m getting this Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:07] <Nullbyte> rigved: Did you use sudo to use the command as root?
[10:07] <rigved> yes i did
[10:08] <carlos_> ew
[10:08] <rigved> u know... i had just downloaded it from the eclipse site and unzipped it
[10:08] <rigved> then i tried it and couldnt make the php thing work
[10:08] <rigved> so i just deleted the whole folder
[10:09] <rigved> shud i just unzip the folder in the same location and then remove with apt-get
[10:09] <Nullbyte> rigved: No
[10:09] <rigved> ok
[10:09] <Nullbyte> rigved: You shouldnt unzip it at all
[10:09] <rigved> o
[10:09] <Nullbyte> rigved: What format is it in? .zip?
[10:10] <rigved> tar.gz
[10:10] <Nullbyte> Oh
[10:10] <rigved> is that tar balls
[10:10] <Nullbyte> Do they have a binary version available?
[10:10] <rigved> i think so
[10:10] <Nullbyte> Dont use tar balls, get a binary
[10:10] <rigved> that must be another 110 MB
[10:10] <Nullbyte> Look for a .deb
[10:10] <rigved> ok...
[10:10] <rigved> but what about this folder i deleted... will that create a problem
[10:11] <rigved> the eclipse folder
[10:11] <Nullbyte> When you get it, use dpkg -i name.deb to install, mkay?
[10:11] <Nullbyte> Nope, it wont
[10:11] <rigved> ok cool
[10:11] <Nullbyte> yep
[10:11] <rigved> thanks a lot man
[10:11] <rigved> i m a total noob
[10:11] <rigved> when it comes to linux
[10:11] <Nullbyte> ^^ We all were once
[10:11] <rigved> cool
[10:11] <Nullbyte> By the way
[10:11] <rigved> ya
[10:11] <Nullbyte> Did you try using the package manager to find it first?
[10:12] <rigved> no
[10:12] <Nullbyte> Hehe
[10:12] <rigved> just went to the eclipse site
[10:12] <Nullbyte> You should do that, its way easier
[10:12] <Nullbyte> Oh
[10:12] <rigved> and downloaded it
[10:12] <Nullbyte> Windows habit :B
[10:12] <rigved> ya man
[10:12] <rigved> totally
[10:12] <Nullbyte> Linux is much easier usually
[10:12] <rigved> i just love the feel
[10:12] <Nullbyte> We use a package manager to find, download and install the stuff we need
[10:12] <Nullbyte> It also fixes dependencies and stuff
[10:12] <rigved> i ll do that the next time i try out something
[10:13] <Nullbyte> Try it now ;)
[10:13] <rigved> ok
[10:13] <rigved> shud i use synaptic?
[10:13] <rigved> or the kubuntu add remove
[10:14] <Nullbyte> Synaptic
[10:14] <crackhead_25_> question: what are the kubuntu tools or options for using it with a tablet laptop pc?? are there any? can it be done??
[10:14] <crackhead_25_> if not kubuntu, what is the best distro for a tablet laptop pc??
[10:14] <nathan> Say there, gentlemen. I was wondering as to how I gain access to root folders in nautilus?
[10:14] <Nullbyte> crackhead_25_: Did you look in the ubuntu wiki?
[10:14] <nathan> Sorry, Konquerer
[10:14] <Nullbyte> nathan: hit shift+F2 and write gksu konqueror
[10:14] <crackhead_25_> !wiki
[10:14] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[10:15] <Nullbyte> nathan: wait, its not gksu for kde
[10:15] <Nullbyte> nathan: or is it? whatever
[10:15] <Nullbyte> nathan: Does it work? :D
[10:15] <nathan__> Nullbyte: I'm not sure; I just switched to KDE and it's most literally the only thing I can't figure out
[10:15] <Nullbyte> nathan: hum
[10:15] <Nullbyte> nathan: :)
[10:15] <Nullbyte> nathan: All you need to do is run it as root, nothing else
[10:16] <Nullbyte> nathan: The easiest thing to do would be opening a terminal and writing sudo konqueror &
[10:16] <nathan__> nullbyte: sudo konqueror didn't work, but gksu konqueror did
[10:16] <crackhead_25_> nullbyte: doesn't really say all that much..
[10:17] <crackhead_25_> nullbyte: it works somewhat with two tested ibm/lenovo tablets, but i was looking at the asus r1f specifically
[10:17] <Nullbyte> crackhead_25_: I dont really know much about running linux on a tablet, try googling it
[10:17] <Nullbyte> crackhead_25_: Or wait for someone else to answer ;)
[10:17] <Nullbyte> nathan___: Well thats good :)
[10:18] <rigved> hi nullbyte.. i got this eclipse here in synaptic
[10:18] <rigved> shud ve installed it from here...
[10:18] <Nullbyte> rigved: Hell yeah
[10:18] <Nullbyte> rigved: Much easier, isnt it? ;)
[10:18] <rigved> definitely
[10:18] <rigved> can u suggest a decent IDE for PHP, not quanta or bluefish
[10:19] <Nullbyte> rigved: Hm, does activestate do a linux version of komodo?
[10:19] <rigved> komodo?
[10:19] <Nullbyte> rigved: Um, wasnt for you, sorry
[10:19] <pollyo> Yes!  Finnally I have K3b working!
[10:19] <Nullbyte> rigved: or yes, it was
[10:19] <Nullbyte> rigved: durr
[10:19] <Nullbyte> rigved: x)
[10:20] <pollyo> It didn't like the drives being set to cable select.
[10:20] <rigved> hey
[10:20] <rigved> it looks like it does
[10:20] <Nullbyte> rigved: komodo is a really great multilanguage IDE :)
[10:20] <Nullbyte> rigved: Not opensource though, as far as I know
[10:20] <rigved> o ya
[10:20] <rigved> shit...
[10:21] <Nullbyte> rigved: But if you can live with that, then just look for a trial or something
[10:21] <rigved> but then it ll die out in a month or so..
[10:21] <Nullbyte> rigved: Thats what you would think, but they ask if you need more time to use it
[10:21] <rigved> lol... wow
[10:21] <Nullbyte> rigved: It is a bit unfair though, and you should really buy it if you like it
[10:22] <rigved> i know i know
[10:22] <Nullbyte> rigved: ;)
[10:22] <rigved> in india, that is something that has still not seeped into everyone's brain as yet
[10:22] <Nullbyte> rigved: In the world, you mean
[10:22] <rigved> bying it is still a distant thought... only the big guys can afford to that
[10:22] <rigved> lol... in th world...
[10:22] <Nullbyte> rigved: :>
[10:23] <Nullbyte> rigved: Pirateing is only for music and movies :D
[10:23] <rigved> lol
[10:23] <Nullbyte> In my opinion at least :B
[10:23] <Nullbyte> Well, and for photoshop
[10:23] <Nullbyte> But I dont beleive we should discuss this here, heh
[10:23] <rigved> actually one of th main reason to shift to Linux is to avoid the pirated stuff
[10:24] <Nullbyte> Mhm
[10:24] <rigved> he hehehe
[10:24] <rigved> also some more reasons
[10:24] <Nullbyte> Of course
[10:24] <mcquaid> hello, i used the kde utility to create a samba mount in my fstab
[10:24] <rigved> but they are all very ambigous
[10:24] <Nullbyte> mcquaid: Yes?
[10:24] <mcquaid> i want to set up smb mount points on another machine that doesn't have this util
[10:24] <mcquaid> just looking at it:
[10:24] <mcquaid> \134\134192.168.11.3\134windows_f /media/network/windows_f cifs uid=0,gid=0,rw,nouser,guest 0 0
[10:24] <mcquaid> I don't get what the 134 stands for?
[10:25] <miltos> what's a good vector drawing program for kubuntu>
[10:25] <Nullbyte> mcquaid: o_ I have no idea either, just copypaste it
[10:25] <Nullbyte> miltos: Inkscape
[10:25] <mcquaid> ok, wondering if it needs to be unique and is randomly generated or something
[10:25] <rigved> Hey NullByte.. thanks for the tips man....
[10:26] <pollyo> I accidently deleted one of the samba settings the graphical system didn't have a "Are you sure" when I accidently clicked delete.
[10:26] <miltos> Nullbyte, lnkscape is it build in or i have to download it?
[10:26] <Nullbyte> mcquid: I dont see any unique-looking things in there
[10:26] <mcquaid> i was asking about the 134. what does that represent?
[10:26] <Nullbyte> miltos: I dont really know, I am using the ubuntu livecd myself at the moment, but just get it from synaptic
[10:26] <rigved> gonna try n find some open source IDE for PHP... looks like i m gonna have to go back to Kate which aint bad either
[10:26] <Nullbyte> rigved: You are welcome!
[10:27] <Nullbyte> rigved: Never tried that
[10:27] <Nullbyte> rigved: Try googling it? :o
[10:27] <rigved> its under Kubuntu
[10:27] <Nullbyte> rigved: I found a decent list once
[10:27] <rigved> its ot syntax hilighting
[10:27] <mcquaid> pollyo: i always try to remember to back up the config before using the gui
[10:27] <rigved> ok
[10:27] <mcquaid> i'm glad the gui is there, it's a good util, but I usually do
[10:28] <rigved> i just need something that has that Zend sort of automatic code completion thing
[10:28] <eagles0513875> any body know much about ati and xgl
[10:28] <eagles0513875> i could use some help
[10:28] <Nullbyte> miltos: Its inkscape, and not Lnkscape by the way
[10:29] <Nullbyte> eagles0513875: Looked at the wiki yet? ;)
[10:29] <eagles0513875> tried all that
[10:29] <pollyo> mcuaid: Goot idea.
[10:29] <eagles0513875> for some reason i turned aglx off in xorg cfg
[10:29] <miltos> Nullbyte, i download inkscape with adept right now, thanks
[10:29] <eagles0513875> and for some reason my comp doesnt shut down i have to hold power button to turn it off
[10:29] <Nullbyte> eagles0513875: o_ Yes, and?
[10:29] <mcquaid> pollyo: the programs should make a backup by default though ;)
[10:29] <miltos> i need also a good conversion program for divx, xvid, avi etc...
[10:29] <Nullbyte> miltos: :) YOu are welcome
[10:30] <pollyo> mcquaid: Oh.  I'll have to check.
[10:30] <Nullbyte> miltos: Ooh. I think mplayer does that
[10:30] <mcquaid> sorry i meant in an ideal world, i don't think it does
[10:30] <eagles0513875> how can i get the mesa glx to change fro indirect to direct and how can i get it to shut down with out holding powerbutton down
[10:30] <Nullbyte> miltos: With some fancy scripting. I know it does wma to mp3 at least :)
[10:30] <chijin> wma to mp3 is bad
[10:31] <pollyo> Anyone know what I click on to rip a cd? (K3b)
[10:31] <Nullbyte> eagles0513875: I am sorry, but I dont know :)
[10:31] <Nullbyte> chijin: It is?
[10:31] <eagles0513875> anybody know
[10:31] <eagles0513875> how can i get the mesa glx to change fro indirect to direct and how can i get it to shut down with out holding powerbutton down
[10:32] <Nullbyte> Try asking in #ubuntu
[10:32] <Nullbyte> Theres way more people there
[10:32] <tuxligo>  Go Vegan!
[10:32] <chijin> Nullbyte: converting a lossy format to another would cause data loss. a 192kbps wma converted to 192kbps mp3 would probably sound worse than a 128kbps file
[10:33] <Nullbyte> tuxligo: Thats hard, especially if you like pork chops
[10:33] <mcquaid> Nullbyte: the \134 stands for a backslash
[10:33] <Nullbyte> chijin: Meh, how would you do that then?
[10:33] <enry> good night!
[10:33] <tuxligo> nullbyte: in spanish please
[10:33] <Nullbyte> mcquaid: Oh, I see :)
[10:33] <Nullbyte> tuxligo: Cant do that, sorry
[10:33] <chijin> Nullbyte: you don't convert lossy formats without losing data
[10:33] <miltos> Nullbyte, i want to convert avi's back to dvd...
[10:34] <tuxligo> nulbyte: go vegan!
[10:34] <Nullbyte> miltos: I dont know anything about that, ask someone else :)
[10:34] <Nullbyte> chijin: Bah. Thanks for telling me, I didnt know that :)
[10:35] <uga> miltos: gentoo got some nice tutorials
[10:35] <pollyo> BBL
[10:35] <cpk1> miltos: use ffmpeg
[10:35] <chijin> Nullbyte: more info here :-P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcoding
[10:35] <uga> a second
[10:35] <miltos> thanks...
[10:35] <Nullbyte> chijin: :D Thanks
[10:35] <uga> miltos: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Index:HOWTO_Create_a_DVD
[10:35] <uga> how to do that step by step
[10:35] <cpk1> miltos: ffmpeg -i nameofavi -target dvd nameofoutput
[10:36] <uga> from encoding to burning
[10:36] <rigved> Hey Nullbyte... any idea about whats this emacs
[10:36] <tuxligo> pereira from brazil!
[10:37] <uga> cpk1: doesn't that miss anything about aspect ratio, pal/ntsc option...?
[10:37] <uga> > ffmpeg \
[10:37] <uga> >    -i ${VIDEO}.avi \
[10:37] <uga> >    -pass 2 \
[10:37] <uga> >    -target pal-dvd \
[10:37] <uga> >    -aspect 16:9 \
[10:37] <uga> >    ${VIDEO}.mpg
[10:37] <Nullbyte> rigved: I have never really used it, but I hear its quite good for some, quite horrible for others
[10:37] <rigved> cool
[10:37] <cpk1> it should manage to figure it out for itself
[10:37] <Nullbyte> rigved: Give it a shot :)
[10:37] <rigved> k
[10:38] <cpk1> kind of like when you mount it can usually figure out the fs
[10:38] <rigved> how do u have rigved: typed in ur response and its red
[10:38] <cpk1> i'm just guessing though =P I've never had any aspect ratio problems
[10:38] <uga> cpk1: I mean mainly about pal/ntsc
[10:38] <uga> your dvd may not like to drop in a pal dvd if it's from the US
[10:39] <cpk1> then just use ntsc/pal
[10:39] <Nullbyte> rigved: Only you see it as red, since it is your name. If you write Nullbyte in your message, I see it as red.
[10:40] <rigved> Nullbyte: o.. so this is red now
[10:40] <rigved> and this isnt?
[10:40] <Nullbyte> Right you are
[10:40] <rigved> cool
[10:40] <rigved> what would i do without u man
[10:40] <Nullbyte> Useful for talking to people and make sure they notice it if they arent afk :D
[10:40] <rigved> ur a life saver
[10:40] <Nullbyte> Dunno, ask someone else I guess, heh
[10:40] <rigved> lol
[10:40] <Nullbyte> Why thank you very much!
[10:41] <rigved> actually i rarely laugh out loud
[10:41] <Nullbyte> Same here
[10:41] <Nullbyte> What an interesting coincidence
[10:41] <rigved> Nullbyte: i m going to start typing the whole thing now
[10:41] <rigved> Laughs out Loud
[10:41] <Nullbyte> \o/
[10:42] <rigved> that shud bring about its futility to communicate a chuckle
[10:42] <rigved> Nullbyte: where u from
[10:42] <Nullbyte> rigved: Denmark, actually! Gogo private messages, this doesnt belong here
[10:43] <rigved> Nullbyte: I tried that, it says imust register
[10:43] <Nullbyte> rigved: Bummer, just a second
[10:44] <Nullbyte> rigved: Did you receive my message? :x
[10:44] <rigved> Nullbyte no
[10:44] <Nullbyte> rigved: Oop
[10:45] <Nullbyte> rigved: Just register then, its not hard at all
[10:45] <Nullbyte> rigved: You need a valid email adress though :o
[10:45] <rigved> Nullbyte: buts its free!
[10:45] <rigved> Nullbyte: registering for something thats free cant be worth it!!
[10:45] <Nullbyte> rigved: Register your nickname, not your client or whatever you mean
[10:45] <rigved> Nullbyte: laughs out loud
[10:46] <rigved> Nullbyte i m just kidding
[10:46] <Nullbyte> rigved: \o/
[10:48] <uga> uhm, qtemu looks a nice gui
[10:50] <MyNameIsBob> hello
[10:50] <Nullbyte> Why hello there
[10:50] <MyNameIsBob> i've never used irc before... thought i'd test it ^^
[10:50] <Nullbyte> ^^ Good idea, its pretty cool.
[10:51] <MyNameIsBob> yeah, looks like i could get used to this
[10:51] <MyNameIsBob> guess it's good for support
[10:51] <Nullbyte> Hell yeah
[10:52] <MyNameIsBob> ah well. at the moment everything is working perfectly :)
[10:53] <Nullbyte> Well, thats great, hehe. Try the off topic channel, I guess its more suitable for conversations like this
[10:54] <MyNameIsBob> how do i get there?
[10:54] <MyNameIsBob> i only see the #kubuntu channel... is that a channel? lol
[10:54] <Nullbyte> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat list of ubuntu channels
[10:54] <Nullbyte> Is, #kubuntu is a channel x)
[10:54] <rigved> Nullbyte: i think i registered
[10:54] <Nullbyte> write /join #ubuntu-offtopic or such
[10:55] <MyNameIsBob> thx :) btw, is there a way to change the login screen of kubuntu. the place where u type in ur name and password?
[10:55] <Nullbyte> rigved: Thats cool, but I forgot my password :D Lets make a channel instead, shall we?
[10:55] <Nullbyte> MyNameIsBob: Of course! There is some settings button at the login screen, isnt there?
[10:55] <rigved> Nullbyte: but how th hell do i know if this is gonna work... it just made a channel called rigved
[10:56] <rigved> thats what it looks like
[10:56] <rigved> there s #kubuntu followed by rigved
[10:56] <Nullbyte> MyNameIsBob: Else I guess you can edit it in some KDE system settings tool
[10:57] <MyNameIsBob> Nullbyte: yeah, i've checked there. can find the splash screen but not login
[10:57] <rigved> ya thats right... ust saw
[10:57] <rigved> its in the sys settings / splash screen
[10:57] <rigved> o
[10:58] <MyNameIsBob> but the splash screen is sth else
[10:58] <MyNameIsBob> it comes after the login
[10:58] <Nullbyte> rigved: I dont know how this is going to work, I dont like this IRC server x) You got MSN or something like that?
[10:58] <rigved> ya
[10:58] <rigved> i ve got kopete
[10:58] <Nullbyte> MyNameIsBob: I know you can edit the config files, but I bet there is some easier tools
[10:58] <Nullbyte> rigved: Do you have an MSN account? x)
[10:59] <rigved> Nullbyte no... how do u get that
[10:59] <rigved> laughs out loud
[10:59] <rigved> st.walmik
[10:59] <rigved> or gimme urs.. whatever
[10:59] <Nullbyte> rigved: assaultdk at gmail dot com
[11:00] <MyNameIsBob> ah well. thx for ur help Nullbyte
[11:01] <crackhead_25_> wher'es kde install path?
[11:01] <Nullbyte> MyNameIsBob: You are very welcome!
[11:01] <Nullbyte> crackhead_25_: /opt/ or /usr/something I guess
[11:02] <Skreech> Where is a netwrk card defined?
[11:02] <yan> i'm from poland my name is jan.
[11:02] <Skreech> When I try to bring up my wireless card in the GUI it enables then instantly isables
[11:02] <crackhead_25_> anyone know the kde install path?
[11:02] <yan> i find people with poland
[11:02] <uga> Skreech:  /etc/network/interfaces
[11:02] <rigved> Nullbyte can u go to FIle>Join Channel> and then type rigved
[11:02] <Nullbyte> I am from Denmark. Do you have a problem with anything, Yan?
[11:02] <Skreech> When I do it from the terminal it get wlan0 does not exist
[11:03] <Kr[4] t05> I dunno why... But Amarok won't adhere to my KDE theme settings...
[11:03] <crackhead_25_> i mean, what's the kde-base-path??
[11:03] <Skreech> uga: for a wireless card does it need anything other than the iface wlan0 inet dhcp line?
[11:03] <slyfox> What can I use to convert mpeg to avi ?
[11:04] <uga> Skreech: depends on what sort of wireless lan
[11:04] <crackhead_25_> slyfox: kino
[11:04] <yan> do you speak polisch??
[11:04] <Skreech> uga: You mean the chipset or how it's connected to the computer?
[11:04] <uga> Skreech: you could use kwifimanager
[11:04] <Skreech> !pl
[11:04] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:04] <uga> that will save you some time
[11:04] <uga> Skreech: access codes (wap/wpa/wpe...)
[11:05] <slyfox> crackhead_25_: why is it when I one a file with kino it tells me that it is not a DB file, do I want to import it? and then it takes a long tiem to import. ?
[11:05] <yan> dzieki
[11:05] <uga> s/wap/wep
[11:05] <crackhead_25_> adept kino with all of its plugins
[11:05] <crackhead_25_> you'll get a very powerful solution
[11:05] <Skreech> uga: that shouldn't make a difference if the card can't come up I think
[11:05] <crackhead_25_> if you want something much less, there are some commandline apps, i think, which can do it, but i'm not familiar at the moment.
[11:05] <uga> Skreech: if you configure dhcp alone, and not define the access point or anything, it won't be able to do anything afaik
[11:06] <uga> of course the card should be up first
[11:06] <uga> but not the wlan0 interface
[11:06] <Skreech> grabbing kwifimanager
[11:06] <Skreech> Not sure of the wisdom of making people downloadthat but in any case :)
[11:06] <uga> heh
[11:07] <Skreech> uga: Right now what?
[11:07] <Skreech> The access point should be discoverable right?
[11:07] <slyfox> crackhead_25_: how do I "adept kino with all of its plugins"  via adept i jsut got kino
[11:07] <uga> Skreech: not necessarily. Mine isn't
[11:08] <roland_> how can i get rid of each and every app in kde asking me 'are you sure ?' so i dont have to go trough this annoyance for each application and select 'dont ask again'
[11:08] <slyfox> crackhead_25_: I think I got it
[11:08] <Skreech> ifconfig -a gives me a eth1
[11:08] <crackhead_25_> i don't know if there are any plug-ins for kino. adept should tell you.
[11:08] <Skreech> no wlan0
[11:08] <uga> Skreech: I wish I could tell you exactly the settings, but unfortunately I don't have wifi on this desktop, only on my lappie
[11:08] <crackhead_25_> though, if there are, try 'em out.
[11:08] <Skreech> uga: Don't really need exact settings. Just want to get the card up
[11:08] <uga> Skreech: was the wifi card detected?
[11:08] <leni> amule its working good with linux? someone have experience?
[11:08] <Skreech> uga: lshw sees it and iwconfig sees it
[11:08] <crackhead_25_> you'll see kino gives you all the options in the world--certainly enough to convert.. and do all kinds of other neat things..
[11:09] <Skreech> However it's disabled
[11:09] <uga> uhm
[11:09] <Skreech> trying to enable it gives wlan0 does not exist
[11:09] <uga> what does ifup wlan0 say?
[11:09] <Skreech> ^^^
[11:09] <uga> uhm
[11:09] <slyfox> crackhead_25_: I isntalled Kino 95 version and it was kompiled, how do I get rid of it now? It is not in adept
[11:10] <Skreech> No such device
[11:10] <slyfox> crackhead_25_: sudo apt-get autoremove kino  ?
[11:10] <roland_> do you guys who use kubuntu upgraded to kde 3.5.6 or are you using  the stock 3.5.5 ?
[11:10] <uga> Skreech: is that an ndiswrapper card, or fully supported one?
[11:10] <uga> I was using ndis myself
[11:11] <blizzzek> hi utnubuk
[11:11] <utnubuk> hi
[11:11] <Skreech> Let me check
[11:12] <Skreech> Broadcom
[11:12] <crackhead_25_> slyfox: i guess. did it not work?
[11:12] <Skreech> There is a driver there already
[11:12] <Skreech> lshw has the logical name as eth1
[11:12] <roland_> will there be a flash player 9 for linux ?
[11:13] <Skreech> ifup eth1 gives an already configured
[11:13] <Skreech> !flash9
[11:13] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:13] <uga> Skreech: oh, then... lol
[11:13] <Skreech> Oh Yeah Duh Kwifimanager says eth1 as well
[11:13] <uga> Skreech: sounds like eth1 is your wifi card
[11:13] <uga> weird name =)
[11:13] <Skreech> It doens't see the wireless though
[11:13] <uga> try dhcpcd eth1
[11:14] <slyfox> crackhead_25_: no, kino from console still launches kino 0.95 version whereas from adept I removed 0.90 version. Purgin and removing did not help. althoug I jsut installed kino again from adept, it laucnhes 0.90 from reposs via Kmenu icon. but via konsole I get 0.95 version
[11:14] <Skreech> uga: dhcdbd ?
[11:14] <uga> uhm... it's not dhcpcd in ubuntu. sorry =)
[11:14] <uga> Skreech: I'm an ex-too guy ;)
[11:14] <Skreech> dhclient?
[11:14] <uga> yeah, but I should check usage ;)
[11:14] <uga> yeah, the same I think
[11:14] <uga> dhclient eth1
[11:15] <uga> if iwconfig was set the right ESSID you should receive a nice ip address
[11:15] <slyfox> crackhead_25_: I still get this message whenever I open soemthing: THis is not a DV file, do you want to import it ?
[11:15] <Skreech> I really don't think that will work. Kwifimanager gives an instant reponse of no network found
[11:15] <uga> well, is the access point's ESSID visible?
[11:15] <uga> else it won't find any networks iirc
[11:15] <Skreech> Yes
[11:16] <uga> uhmpf
[11:16] <Skreech> Unless someone has been messing with it
[11:16] <Skreech> But it's for our clients to walk in and use
[11:17] <Skreech> We give them a key but it pops up and they try to join then it asks for the key
[11:17] <Skreech> This won't even go that far
[11:19] <roland_> should i upgrade the 6.10 stock kde to 3.5.6 or its better to leave it ?
[11:20] <Skreech> roland_: Whichever pleases you
[11:22] <sinisterguy> is there anything like textmate style snippets in kate?
[11:24] <roland_> where do i configure wich services are enabled at boot
[11:24] <roland_> like in ubuntu
[11:25] <Skreech> roland_: system settings
[11:30] <Hasrat_USA> good evening everyone
[11:31] <Nullbyte> Good evening to you too!
[11:31] <morvok> *rage*
[11:31] <Hasrat_USA> thanks Null :)
[11:31] <Nullbyte> ^^
[11:33] <utnubuk> what sys monitor is in this picture: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=54304&file1=54304-1.jpg&file2=54304-2.jpg&file3=&name=Green+On+Black  ???
[11:33] <Shaezsche> is there a way to convert mdf files to isos?
[11:34] <morvok> what do ya need a sys monitor for?
[11:34] <utnubuk> just want one :)
[11:34] <utnubuk> it looks kinda cool
[11:35] <Pep> hello there
[11:35] <MinceR> utnubuk: looks like torsmo to me
[11:35] <eilker> i am trying to open http://www.godaddy.com  , firefox brings to me , some advertisements sites , and i cant view http://www.godaddy.com , any idea ?
[11:35] <utnubuk> MinceR: thanks man
[11:36] <Pep> does somebody know how to display a konsole into konqueror?
[11:36] <eilker> i deleted all private data from firefox too
[11:36] <MinceR> np. check it though, i'm not sure.
[11:36] <aaron__> what is the sys monitor that sits at the side of the screen\
[11:36] <aaron__> it has like a white border I really like tthat one but dont know where to get it
[11:36] <morvok> running 3 of 183 cpu's hehe
[11:37] <Skreech> Pep: F4?
[11:37] <Pep> well...
[11:37] <Pep> :)
[11:37] <Pep> I was wondering if it was possible to integrate a konsole INSIDE konqueror like kate
[11:38] <Pep> (F4 works but it's outside)
[11:38] <Skreech> F8?
[11:38] <Pep> bingo :)
[11:38] <wolferines> having an issue or two, after I installed Ubuntu, I found that my mouse moves quickly.  I did the obvious and changed the settings in System->Prefences->Mouse, but this ended up slowing my mouse down, to a crawl, making any task very difficult, so I reformatted/reinstalled, now its happening again, with a combination of keyboard issues
[11:38] <Pep> that works :)
[11:38] <Pep> thx
[11:38] <Skreech> Pep: Settings -> Shortcuts -> search helps a lot
[11:39] <FragUPlenty> so wait
[11:39] <FragUPlenty> what is the name of the resource monitor
[11:39] <FragUPlenty> I know DSL uses it
[11:39] <Pep> well in fact I've seen in front page of konqueror that it was possible but trying to do what they say in front page didn't worked ... :( so that's why i didn't search in help :)
[11:40] <Pep> sorry
[11:40] <Skreech> Pep: Not help shortcuts :)
[11:40] <Skreech> s/help/help./
[11:40] <Pep> i've got a last question... (stupid one perhaps)...
[11:40] <FragUPlenty> needs to know
[11:40] <FragUPlenty> lol
[11:41] <Hasrat_USA> pep hmm I just tried to view an integrated Konsole inside Konqueror by pressing F8 but since I'm beryl, it probably took away the shortcut key and grouped the open windows in a 3D environment instead of opening Konsole
[11:41] <FragUPlenty> ok this might sound a bit odd but I think I am gonna try google lol
[11:41] <Hasrat_USA> *I'm using Beryl
[11:41] <Skreech> Hasrat_USA: Yeah Beryl sucks if you have a keyboard :-)
[11:41] <Skreech> It's so a Gnome technology
[11:42] <Pep> I've assigned an open action on right click for python and want to add/modify them ...
[11:42] <Hasrat_USA> yeah may be
[11:42] <Pep> But I can't find what to launch to configure them :(
[11:42] <Pep> any idea?
[11:42] <Skreech> In python?
[11:42] <eagles> guys im on the kubuntu server kernel and for some reason i cant get on here with my regestered screen name
[11:42] <Hasrat_USA> for python?
[11:42] <Pep> heu no sorry
[11:43] <Pep> let re say this
[11:43] <Hasrat_USA> are you talking about the shortcut that opens Python?
[11:43] <Pep> in konqueror, on .py file I can do open with...
[11:43] <eagles> how do i close ports
[11:43] <Pep> I've set "open with.." to open .py files with python
[11:43] <Skreech> eagles: close ports?
[11:43] <Pep> but I want to add/modify some other actions
[11:44] <Skreech> Pep: Ah file associations
[11:44] <Pep> yep
[11:44] <Hasrat_USA> I thought Python is an interpreted programming language
[11:44] <eagles> ya i installed a server kernel which i booted into
[11:44] <Pep> I can't find where to manage these ones!!
[11:44] <Pep> yet it is
[11:44] <eagles> and it is showing alot more open ports with unknown services
[11:44] <Skreech> Settings -> configure konqueror -> file associataions
[11:44] <Pep> ...
[11:44] <Pep> so simple...
[11:44] <Pep> ok
[11:44] <Pep> :)
[11:44] <Skreech> eagles: The server kernel has no ports open by default
[11:45] <Pep> I've looked around during 30mn....
[11:45] <Skreech> so You need to shutdown what ever ports you opened
[11:45] <eagles> i never opened any
[11:45] <FragUPlenty> ok so I downloaded conky thats the sys monitor
[11:45] <Skreech> Pep: I read thatas Nano minutes :)
[11:45] <FragUPlenty> but I need to move it around
[11:45] <Skreech> eagles: Shouldn't have any open then
[11:45] <FragUPlenty> anyone know how to do that
[11:45] <eagles> ok
[11:45] <Skreech> eagles: Why can't you register?
[11:46] <eagles> i already have a registered screen name eagles0513875 but its saying its in use
[11:46] <Pep> ?_?
[11:46] <eagles> says nick name is in use
[11:46] <eagles> could it be the kernel im on blocking the port to the nickserv
[11:46] <Skreech> eagles: so ghost it then
[11:46] <eagles> what u mean
[11:46] <eagles> ghost it
[11:47] <Skreech> type /msg nickserv ghost <name> <password>
[11:49] <wolferines> anyone able to help with the keyboard/mouse issue?
[11:49] <Skreech> wolferines: quickly
[11:49] <Skreech> Watsit?
[11:49] <wolferines> the mouse moves quickly
[11:50] <wolferines> and the keyboard does a few odd things
[11:50] <Skreech> turn down mouse accelration
[11:50] <wolferines> it will be this setting, or extremely slow
[11:50] <roland_> hey, i just experienced kernel/init/fsck failure on my machine after rebooting kubuntu
[11:50] <roland_> killing processes
[11:50] <Skreech> wolferines: check your locale?
[11:50] <wolferines> locale?
[11:50] <Skreech> yes that your keyboard is set for the language you expect
[11:50] <wolferines> think its my driver setup (during my new install)
[11:51] <Skreech> It may be set to something that gives you strange output
[11:51] <Skreech> wolferines: system settings is a good place to start
[11:51] <Skreech> Gotta run
[11:51] <Skreech> eagles0513875: There you go
[11:51] <eagles0513875> does that mean someone else has same screen name
[11:51] <eagles0513875> or just have to reset it
[11:51] <Skreech> or you hada ghost
[11:51] <eagles0513875> waht is a ghosst
[11:52] <roland_> Mar 22 00:48:46 icecream kdm_greet[4220] : Can't open default user face
[11:52] <roland_> Mar 22 00:48:56 icecream kdm_greet[4220] : Internal error: memory corruption dete
[11:52] <roland_> cted
[11:52] <roland_> whats this
[11:52] <wolferines> Skreech: thats not it
[11:52] <Skreech> When you logout sometimes your name stays as a ghost
[11:52] <wolferines> driver issue?
[11:52] <Skreech> wolferines: Maybe :)
[11:52] <eagles0513875> oh ok
[11:52] <wolferines> so look into a xorg.conf edit?
[11:52] <Skreech> wolferines: if it helps you can ask in #ubuntu as well
[11:52] <wolferines> +b on me
[11:53] <wolferines> hmm
[11:53] <wolferines> atleast he tried
[11:53] <eagles0513875> anyone know much about xgl
[11:55] <eagles0513875> anyone know much about xgl
[11:56] <wolferines> asking every minute will probably not get you an asnwer
[11:56] <Nullbyte> Just ask your question, eagles
[11:56] <eagles0513875> i try to boot into an xgl desktop but all i get is a black screen
[11:57] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: ati or nvidia?
[11:58] <eagles0513875> ati radeon 200m xpress
[11:58] <eagles0513875> i arleady ran the beryl script and installed it
[11:58] <Spora_n27> ciao a tutti
[11:59] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: did you install the ati drivers?
[11:59] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: oh, you used a script, any idea what the script did?
[11:59] <eagles0513875> yes i did
[11:59] <eagles0513875> ya
[11:59] <Spora_n27> italian??
[11:59] <eagles0513875> installed drivers and beryl
[11:59] <sinisterguy> is there any way to get snippets like in gedit in kate?
[12:00] <eagles0513875> !it
[12:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:00] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: have you checked the logs to see if there were any errors?
[12:00] <eagles0513875> no
[12:00] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: and by black screen, do you mean, your monitor shut off?
[12:00] <eagles0513875> and when i open beryl manager in regular desktop it causes my system to hang like mad
[12:00] <eagles0513875> ya
[12:01] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: i dont know enough about ati drivers to troubleshoot, but it sounds like a driver problem
[12:01] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: did you reboot after running the script?
[12:01] <eagles0513875> yes and restarted x multiple times
[12:02] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: hmm, i wish i could help, ati is a bit more difficult to setup than nvidia, which i use
[12:02] <eagles0513875> is there an ati channel
[12:02] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: best bet is to search the forums for ati related xgl issues
[12:02] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: try #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[12:02] <eagles0513875> ok ty
[12:03] <c0nv1ct> eagles0513875: or even #xgl i guess
[12:03] <chijin> eagles0513875: what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say when you're in your normal x.org session?
[12:03] <FragUPlenty> I love Ubuntu and I dont care what anyone says, this is way better then microsoft and apple
[12:03] <FragUPlenty> but heres a problem
[12:03] <FragUPlenty> why sometimes do the package managers fail to work
[12:04] <c0nv1ct> FragUPlenty: depends on the error
[12:04] <FragUPlenty> no error just wont start
[12:04] <c0nv1ct> FragUPlenty: that happens to me too, i think its a problem with kdesu
[12:04] <eagles0513875> its indirect
[12:04] <eagles0513875> its indirect in my normal session
[12:04] <chijin> sometimes i need to click the adept icon twice to get it running
[12:04] <c0nv1ct> FragUPlenty: i try to use the CLI to do aptitude stuff unless i need to search for a package
[12:06] <chijin> eagles0513875: makes sure glxinfo returns 'direct rendering: yes' in x.org session before you try to run beryl in xgl
[12:07] <eagles0513875> ok ill try that now
[12:07] <eagles0513875> ill try that later actually im rather busy atm
[12:07] <eagles0513875> thanks for ur help
[12:07] <FragUPlenty> need to run it from the terminal to get the error probably
[12:07] <FragUPlenty> its working right now
[12:07] <FragUPlenty> but it wasnt before
[12:08] <chijin> eagles0513875: if it returns anything else, you have a driver issue, not a beryl problem :-P
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> chijin: or an "ati sucks" problem :P
[12:09] <chijin> i can install fglrx from the repos just as easily as i can nvidia-glx
[12:10] <bigdad1e> whats the command to see my usb's and whats using them?
[12:10] <bigdad1e> lsusb?
[12:10] <chijin> setting up beryl is not any more difficult with ati, in my opinion
[12:11] <bigdad1e> cOnv1ct: whats the command to see my usb plugins in the konsole?
[12:11] <c0nv1ct> too bad the nvidia driver in the repos is crap, unless you add a custom repo
[12:11] <c0nv1ct> bigdad1e: usb devices?
[12:12] <bigdad1e> cOnv1ct: yes
[12:12] <bigdad1e> cOnv1ct: lsusb?
[12:12] <c0nv1ct> yep
[12:12] <chijin> what's crap about the default repo driver?
[12:12] <bigdad1e> cOnv1ct: its not showing anything
[12:12] <c0nv1ct> chijin: its version 8776, and 9755 is way better
[12:13] <chijin> c0nv1ct: what's the repo again, i might as well upgrade
[12:13] <c0nv1ct> chijin: the custom one? i dunno, i installed manually
[12:13] <kel3> hi!!!