=== phoenix24 [i=wmpxi@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu === jgedeon [n=joe@oh-67-77-123-4.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD2C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === phoenix24 [i=cepbxp@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu === phoenix24 [i=lfo@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu === mpo [n=mpo@user-12lc79f.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@59.40.100.143] has joined #edubuntu [02:01] can someone help me with some live cd questions? === pauljw [n=paul@pool82.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:02] I am curious why the live dvd is only 486 mb === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [02:09] is there a time that this channel is more active? [02:10] mpo: yes [02:10] mpo: where are you seeing that size for the dvd image? === pygi [n=mario@89-172-140-93.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [02:11] ogra, poke [02:11] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/ [02:12] or is it ogra_ ? :P [02:12] mpo: the .iso files are "4.4G" [02:12] feisty-dvd-i386.iso 21-Mar-2007 13:03 4.4G Install/live DVD for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download) [02:13] i chose this from the list but when the download prompts it show as 439 mb === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@59.40.102.239] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=mario@89-172-140-93.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:13] iso [02:13] mpo: ah, let me try [02:15] hm, shows as 4535.1MB here (in the Firefox download window) [02:16] hmmm [02:16] you are right [02:17] had firefox on another pc this only has explorer === bimberi tries wget [02:18] yep, looks about the right size. Too much for my dialup connection :) [02:19] hmmm firefox does not seem to let me download to a mapped drive though [02:20] always want to save to my desktop === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:21] right-click -> save as... should let you navigate elsewhere [02:21] bimberi: only lets me save the link [02:22] anyway I can figure that out...do you know if the live CD has the manuals included? ..not the dvd [02:22] *save link as* ? === phoenix24 [i=qycck@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:23] mpo: there is documentation and most packages include manpages [02:24] hmmm the kTurtle programming program errored out when try to access it from the help ....do I have to just browse to a directory to read them instead? [02:25] mpo: unfortunately that I don't know about sorry. Hopefully someone else... [02:28] if I want the live cd or dvd to have flash...java...so that it can browse the web do I have to install to a hdd and then re-image it after I install them [02:31] you can install packages while running the LiveCD. [02:31] (temporary to the session of course) [02:32] but how can I do it permanetly for the cd ... the reason I ask is because java...mp3..and what have you have a max distribution limit ans that is why they are not included in the OS [02:33] at least thats why I think [02:33] !uck [02:33] UCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/ === calimer [n=calimer@cpe-72-224-40-18.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [02:35] I was just wondering, why are the system requirements for edubuntu so high? [02:35] I want to install it on a 450 mhz computer with 64 mb of ram [02:36] calimer: that would be OK as a thin-client connected to an Edubuntu LTSP server. As a standalone it will need more RAM. 128MB at least (and will probably still be quite slow) [02:37] I'm not familiar to the concept of a thin-client [02:38] that is interesting that it would need more to be standalone [02:38] I don't need to connect it to the net or anything, I just want to have educational stuff on the computers for the kids [02:39] i supposed I could just grab the individual programs [02:39] ubuntu in general seems to have somewhat high system requirements [02:39] even for the xfce type [02:39] I was running mandrake with xfce on my 350 mhz with no problem [02:40] you could try Xubuntu then ... [02:40] !xubuntu [02:40] xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels [02:40] or even ... [02:40] !fluxbuntu [02:40] fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/ [02:41] even for that install I think it wanted 256 ram [02:41] oh 128 [02:41] yes, for the LiveCD installer. There is a text based "alternate" installer which is much less hungry ... [02:42] !alternate [02:42] The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD. [02:42] thank you for your help, I'm excited to help teach the kids about linux [02:43] right now the computers are running windows 98 first edition and can't even install a driver for my thumb drive [02:43] you're welcome :) [02:43] I've found this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client [02:43] are you a developer for edubuntu? [02:44] No. Just someone who likes to help out. [02:44] ah because I want to suggest some software for it [02:46] I'd suggest posting to the edubuntu-devel mailing list [02:47] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel [02:47] good idea, sounds great [02:48] I think I want to make a sandbox game for kids [02:48] where they can design their own 3D worlds and interact in them [02:49] something like Kahootz? === jack_wyt_ is now known as jack_wyt [02:49] (which is proprietary software btw) [02:50] not sure but I'm going to check it out [02:50] mine would be free [02:50] calimer: hence that sounds fantastic! [02:50] kahootz looks like good inspiration [02:51] I only know about Kahootz through helping classes at my sons' school with it [02:51] I want to make something that helps kids make their own stories too [02:51] though that is a bit tougher [02:52] for me I run a before and afterschool at an elementary school for grades k-5 [02:52] and I salvaged those two computers that they were throwing away at my admin building [02:52] I have tuxpaint and childsplay on them for the kids and they love it [02:53] cool :) [02:53] yeah it's awesome [02:53] but I want to show them how to make games and level design [02:53] and I can't really show them my past work which is at http://lms.d3files.com a little inappropriate for them [02:54] er, yes :) [02:55] thanks for the kahootz link [02:55] this software looks very interesting [02:55] I'm going to see about ordering the demo [02:56] it's very good. I'd love to see a Free Software equivalent. [02:57] well the in game level designing part will come quickly [02:57] but these extra features will take longer [02:57] I know one thing I have already made with some friends is a huge slide [02:57] and then a jump pad that shot us back up to the top [02:58] have you ever heard of alice? [03:00] no [03:00] http://www.alice.org/ [03:00] not sure how similar it is to kahootz but seems quite similar [03:00] might be the free equivalent [03:02] looks very interesting - thanks! [03:03] I made a small movie with it, it seemed pretty cool [03:03] I'm interested to know how it compares to kahootz if you check it out [03:06] I need to get to bed, up early for the morning program. Take care and thank you for your help :) [03:06] You're welcome. Good luck. === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] Evening all [03:23] hi sbalneav [03:24] Hey LaserJock [03:25] I sent off an updated manual to ogra to look over [03:25] Got some time right now? [03:25] some yeah [03:25] what's up? [03:26] Hold on, lemme dcc you the updated manual [03:28] dccccccc [03:28] See it? [03:30] well, kinda [03:30] I can't tell how to get it [03:30] I'm in irssi [03:30] ah, ok. [03:30] ummm [03:31] hm [03:31] wahoo, recieving [03:32] I closed it, try again [03:34] got it [03:35] coolio [03:37] so these have all your changes? [03:37] yeah, so far [03:37] When's our deadline? [03:38] well [03:38] ASAP [03:38] we're already past the doc team's string freeze [03:39] and we're at Beta Freeze [03:39] Well, if it went on the disk now, it's at least accurate. [03:40] and much more complete than before [03:41] yeah [03:42] The naming's been reoganized [03:42] what we need is to get stuff for the translators to work on [03:42] if we have some minor changes here and there it's fine [04:00] Well, it's ltsp5 accrurate now, and the boot process is explained. [04:00] The manual's about tripled in size since we started, between my ltsp stuff and cbx33's SCP section [04:00] but he needs to pat ch that up quick for the rename to TCM [04:00] ah [04:00] sbalneav: ok, well I need to take a quick shower [04:00] sbalneav: then I'll get these changes into the svn repo === phoenix24 [i=hip@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:00] edubuntugirl: LaserJock++ [04:00] edubuntugirl: LaserJock [04:00] LaserJock is Jordan Mantha === Burgundavia [n=corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:16] at least she knows who I am [04:21] hmm, no cbx33 yet [04:21] LaserJock: she? [04:23] calimer: Lots of similarities between Alice and Kahootz. The latter is not really focussed on teaching programming, just animation/content-creation. Hence it works well for early ages (the class I helped out with was Year 1 (5/6 year olds)) [04:24] edubuntugirl: Burgundavia [04:24] bimberi: I'm not following you... [04:24] ahh [04:24] edubuntugirl: LaserJock [04:24] LaserJock is Jordan Mantha [04:24] edubuntugirl: Burgundavia [04:24] Burgundavia: *blink* [04:24] hope [04:24] nope, rather [04:24] edubuntugirl: Burgwork [04:24] Burgundavia: what? [04:24] Alice really doesn't work all that well [04:24] Burgundavia: so _she_ doesn't know who you are :) [04:25] hmm [04:25] a frequent problem i have with women :) [04:25] people still get caught up in the ideas of dragging and dropping instead of the problem solving aspects that Alice attempts to present [04:26] crimsun: hmmk [04:27] crimsun: At first site I'm reminded of Squeak [04:27] squeak is nice [04:27] we use ultimate++ [04:28] some of the first-semester students do 3 weeks of Alice then move on to ultimate++ [04:28] we evaluated Alice for 2 years === bimberi googles and notices a .deb :) [04:31] argg, that reminds me [04:32] I need to repackage squeak [04:32] have they solved the issue? [04:33] which one? [04:33] the squeak licensing issue [04:34] argh - s/site/sight/ [04:34] Burgundavia: no, I don't think that'll ever resolved [04:35] ahh [04:36] isn't it just a font issue? [04:39] edubuntugirl: Amaranth [04:39] Amaranth: *blink* [04:39] aww [04:41] edubuntugirl: sabdfl [04:41] sabdfl is Mark Shuttleworth [04:45] Burgundavia: I'm not exactly sure, but I think it has to do with it's Apple heritage [04:45] I believe so as well, but I am uncertain as to what parts are apsl2 [04:47] me neither [04:48] but I think it'll always be in Multiverse === phoenix24 [i=gqm@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has left #edubuntu [] === Starting logfile irclogs/edubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | edgy (6.10) is released ! grab it while its hot ! http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edgy/ | Upgraders see: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes === Topic (#edubuntu): set by Seveas at Sun Nov 26 18:00:58 2006 === Lameiro [n=chatzill@c95374b4.virtua.com.br] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu [06:23] hi. I am planning to submit a SoC proposal for Coon, but I don't see any names for mentors in Ubuntu pages. All I see are 2 names in the Ubuntu Feature Specification website. they are "encompass" and "Pete Savage". do you know if they are planning to mentor that? [06:23] or somebody else [06:26] well, I don't think the mentor list is finalized at all [06:26] Lameiro: what do you need? === Lameiro_ [n=chatzill@c95374b4.virtua.com.br] has joined #edubuntu === Lameiro_ is now known as Lameiro [06:35] Lameiro: wb [06:37] LaserJock: thank you. well, last msg i got was "well, I don't think the mentor list is finalized at all". did you say anybody else? damned isp, i am sorry [06:37] *anything [06:37] I just said: [06:37] Lameiro: what do you need? [06:37] a mentor name to put in the soc proposal [06:38] I don't think you need one yet [06:38] I don't know all the details of the SoC stuff [06:38] well. ok. i thought i did... thank you [06:38] but I'm pretty sure we don't even have a final list of mentors === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === JohanSalim [n=johansal@ip84-222.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu [07:17] LaserJock: going to apply? [07:18] for what? [07:18] oh, I did apply for SoC mentorship [07:19] but my application is "pending" so I need to poke Keybuk or doko [07:21] ok === ajmitch didn't think you'd have time to waste as a student [07:21] well [07:21] we'll see if we even need it [07:21] though it'd just be your usual ubuntu time anyway :) === calimer- [n=calimer@cpe-72-224-40-18.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:22] it actually would have been more fun/profitable to actually do a project [07:22] but I really don't have time for that [07:22] yep === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@59.40.102.239] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [07:30] hi cbx33 [07:30] hey Lameiro [07:30] hmmm [07:30] hey LaserJock [07:31] cbx33: I'm guessing you have some SoC email in you inbox ;-) [07:32] not this morning actually [07:32] but most days yes [07:32] ;) [07:32] LaserJock: i didnt send it off. [07:32] cbx33: I see. do that is gonna be a hard one... eheh [07:33] ??? [07:33] i am sending you one in a few hours... [07:33] cbx33: i am applying for the Coon SoC project. [07:33] coon? [07:34] ahhh [07:34] gooooood morning! [07:34] cbx33: had somebody by asking about the web front end to tcm [07:34] hi highvoltage [07:34] hey highvoltage [07:34] awesome [07:34] yes someone mailed me about that too [07:34] hey LaserJock, Burgundavia and cbx33 [07:35] hey highvoltage [07:35] hi Burgundavia [07:35] cbx33: can I assign you as the mentor for the SoC proposal? [07:35] did you get a chance to scan that chapter yet Burgundavia ? [07:36] Lameiro, well i suppose ;) [07:36] I am looking to mentor that project [07:36] nope [07:36] if it gets approved === cbx33 shakes his fists [07:36] hehehe [07:36] too busy playing Wesnoth eh? [07:36] cbx33: he does have a life you know ;-) [07:36] Oh..... [07:36] sorry Burgundavia I thought you were like LaserJock and Me :p [07:36] ha ha !! [07:37] I even have a gf [07:37] what a 3-dimensional...real girlfriend? [07:37] today I sorted out the ubuntu sticker offer thingy [07:37] which has languished for 6 months [07:37] unlike you married bozos, I actually need to work to keep mine [07:37] hah [07:37] hehe [07:37] yes, marriage is no work at all [07:38] and she's into ubuntu sticker offers? [07:38] lol [07:38] LaserJock, careful or I'll tell your good lady you said that ;) [07:38] no, she was helping me with them [07:38] and then we cleaned house [07:38] ahh good old house cleaning === Lameiro_ [n=chatzill@c95374b4.virtua.com.br] has joined #edubuntu [07:38] *bah* i suck at that [07:38] so do I [07:38] hey cbx33 [07:38] I always get told off [07:38] hi ajmitch [07:38] however, I am very good at cleaning other peoples houses [07:38] hey ajmitch [07:38] Lameiro_: what did you mean by "coon"? === Lameiro_ is now known as Lameiro [07:39] Burgundavia, it's the name Jason gave to his project proposal [07:39] ahh [07:39] what is the project [07:39] I was unaware of it's true meaning [07:39] ? [07:39] it's the gradebook idea [07:39] coon in North America can mean "racoon" [07:39] hence [07:39] 'coon hunting [07:39] for teachers to record students grades [07:39] doesn't schooltool do that? [07:39] ie: we don't need it [07:40] well......school tool are doing some pilot on it [07:40] but it's way off being finished [07:40] but yes you're right [07:40] hello corey, what's up? [07:41] not much [07:41] about to head to bed [07:41] so this is just a basic program? === cbx33 just found a great way to keep his googlemail inbox clean [07:41] Unread -> Delete [07:41] haha [07:41] it's genius [07:42] wow [07:42] a pity I can't do that with ubuntu mail [07:43] people wouldn't like it if I deleted motu stuff from my inbox === ajmitch could go & delete the 300K bug mails [07:43] ---Mutt: =launchpad [Msgs:292583 New:219736 Flag:1 Post:6 Inc:21 1539M] ---(threads/date) [07:43] 1.5GB of bugs === ajmitch is a little behind on reading them [07:43] heheh === cbx33 periodically does that === ajmitch finds mutt can search bug mail faster than LP can at times [07:45] cbx33: but, on the proposal it is suggested to use a mysql database. wouldnt it be more adequate to use a sqlite? (avoid deps) [07:45] suggest that then ;) [07:47] I would also build it in such a way that it could become a client to schooltool when that evolves [07:47] Lameiro: proposals are often put up by random community members [07:47] yes === ajmitch had better run off now, back in a couple of hours [07:48] see ya ajmitch [07:49] night all [07:58] nn Burgundavia === cbx33 is off to make breakfast [08:00] night Burgs === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === Mez is now known as Mez|OnAir === juliux [n=Julius@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === phoenix24 [i=kahvmaz@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === phoenix24 [i=laeudu@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu === Mez|OnAir is now known as Mez === phoenix24 [i=ionnnq@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu === michpol [n=michael@195.128.153.131] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === phoenix24 [i=poinzjt@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu === phoenix24 [i=kwai@ns38373.ovh.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:33] hi all. i've try to install edubuntu 6.06.1 over network. all seems ok during installation (i've select generic install by pressing at 'boot:'), but when after all i restart PC for first time, edubuntu load in console mode only - no gdm installed. why? somebody try do so? === phoenix24 [i=kwai@ns38373.ovh.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === kigurai [n=h2o@85.8.6.84.se.wasadata.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:09] Hi again === sayan_ [n=magoche@20150176161.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #edubuntu [01:10] o/ === calimer [n=calimer@cpe-72-224-40-18.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=Julius@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu [01:41] moin! [01:44] hi rockprincess :) [01:44] heeey Kamping_Kaiser! Whats up? How are ya doing? :D [01:46] rockprincess, i'm going busy, yourself? i'm jsut rearanging my work room (got a new desk, have to pull out about 10 old world macs to fit it in) [01:48] kamping_kaiser: i'm just about to put my book presentation together which is due tomorrow, and in about an hour i'll be leaving for school.....but good news is that i just got a notice from my assistant professor at uni that my dvds and case studies on educational foss have arrived :D [01:50] will pick them up tomorrow :D [01:50] rockprincess, awsome stuff :D [01:50] rockprincess, i 'quit' doing ubuntu-edu and edubuntu stuff a month ago to go overseas - still havent gone :| [01:50] been busy as heck anyway though [01:51] Kamping_Kaiser: overseas as going to the usa? will you pick up your (ed)ubuntu stuff once you've settled down? [01:52] rockprincess, no, going doing a network deployment in papua new guinea. 3 weeks there, 2 months getting ready :| [01:53] Kamping_Kaiser: wow, that sounds exciting! you [01:53] Kamping_Kaiser: you'll be missed here for sure ;) [01:53] it is exciting/scary. i was meant to be getting back about now, i wont be going for another month! [01:53] rockprincess, awww :) [01:55] has it been put back due to organizational matter?! [01:55] theres 5 organisations involved in getting it going, including a multinational - you imagine for yourself! :) [01:56] wow, sounds like a big deal, huh?! :D [01:56] what will be your tasks there? [01:57] get as far as i can through the todo list, including deploy 130 desktops, 20 laptops, do desktop training (10-20 hours) on as many as posible, and server training (sigh hours) for 3 people [01:57] training desktop from the ground up is bad. training *the server admins* from scratch is going to be, shall we say, insane [02:01] ohhh no ;) sounds like a challenge plus it's for a good cause, isn't it?! ;) [02:01] i consider setting up foss in a hospital a good cause :) [02:02] its a challenge, but its on PNG time (ie 'it happens when it happens') , which wont help the todo list :| [02:02] speaking of insane...my computer is insane, my computer clock goes fast-forward....it displays 14:36 whereas my watch says 14:00 ... === Kamping_Kaiser hints ntpdate [02:02] hehe, never heard of PNG time ;) [02:03] ntpdate? [02:04] ntpdate ntp.adelaide.edu.au (ntpdate sets the time according to an ntp server) [02:04] does it have a gui? i once tried "chrony" which is a similar command line tool..... [02:04] no, its cli [02:08] night rockprincess [02:08] good night Kamping_Kaiser! Good Luck for your project! [02:08] :) [02:09] rockprincess, thanks, i'm sure i'll be in again before i go :) [02:09] cool :) === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:07] Monring all! [03:07] Hey ogra! How's it going? Refreshed my ISO last night, and did a re-install, and the chroot build was OK [03:08] ogra++ === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [03:09] morning sbalneav! [03:10] Heya folks [03:10] ok on ppc as well [03:11] hey bddebian [03:12] Hi highvoltage [03:14] Hey highvoltage! [03:14] So, I wonder what linux persona I am [03:15] sbalneav: I see the site is back up : [03:15] sbalneav: I think you're the afficionado guy === highvoltage just downloaded a copy of the site just in case they take it off-line again === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/linuxpreview.org/x-08c7458bd877ff48] has joined #edubuntu [03:35] Yeah, but the afficiondo guy only has 50% linux usage. [03:35] I'm 100% :) [03:35] sbalneav, yeah, beta looks good so far [03:35] ogra!! [03:35] I only have 1 minor problem, and I think I have a clue as to what it may be. [03:35] It didn't set up the network interface. [03:35] Now, on this box I have two interfaces [03:35] eth0's a GOOD card, intel EE pro 100 [03:35] eth1's the crappy onboard VIA ethernet interface [03:35] that shouldnt matter at all [03:35] I use eth1 as the "primary" [03:35] as dhcp client ? [03:35] or static ? [03:35] yes [03:35] Should I statically define eth1? [03:35] I was wondering if maybe the detection code was assuming eth0 was "primary" and looking for eth1 to be the unused one. [03:36] Where, on the install cd, would I find the scripts that do that bit? Or is that in the initramfs on the cd's kernel? [03:40] hey ogra, sbalneav [03:40] do you get a message during install about the interface ? [03:40] seen linuxMCE? [03:40] that looks so cool [03:40] and based on ubuntu too [03:40] or does it just not work after install ? [03:45] sbalneav, the script is in the ltsp source. it's the postinst of ltsp-client-builder [03:47] cbx33: wow, linuxmce looks cool [03:48] i know [03:48] sucks that the bandwidth has gone [03:48] I wanted to install that tonight [03:49] highvoltage: quite a small project by the looks of it too [03:49] just one guy working on it [03:50] cbx33: i see an import for ltcm..but it doesnt seem available [03:50] in scp [03:52] ogra: No, didn't get a message about the interface [03:52] aha === maccam94 [n=maccam94@70.90.107.65] has joined #edubuntu [03:53] can you check if the interface is up and running *before* you log in on the server ? [03:54] seems we have a little problem with network manager hogging *all* interfaces [03:54] network mangler.. [03:54] Before I log in? That would be after install, right? [03:54] So, it doesn't configure that interface on install? === maccam94 [n=maccam94@70.90.107.65] has joined #edubuntu [03:55] I'm using the server install cd, not the desktop cd, just to be clear [03:55] it configures that interface on install [03:55]