=== Majost [n=ryanh@gateway.linspire.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:15] ack [12:15] sorry [12:15] heh [12:15] np [12:15] I think the last thing you asked was what is the real problem [12:16] perceptive sound volume with the ac97_codec is one [12:16] and the other is the hda... [12:16] right, the latter is far more difficult than the former [12:17] do you have the debugging info (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems , particularly the /proc/asound/card0/codec97*/* ) dump? [12:17] (for AC '97-based) [12:18] any info would be helpful.. [12:18] =) [12:18] right, but to help, I need that info [12:18] i.e., cat /proc/asound/card0/codec97*/* [12:18] (using http://pastebin.ca ) [12:19] np [12:20] I am Ryan btw === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:21] pastebin.ca/405819 [12:23] Majost: are you using the latest available feisty kernel? [12:23] 2.6.20-9-lowlatency [12:23] (either 2.6.20-12.19 or 2.6.20-12.20 would suffice) [12:23] err, you're several revisions behind [12:23] I see === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:26] May have to wait until tonight to test it against the new kernel... we will need to resync most likely. [12:27] =/ [12:29] In any event, I have a good chunk of hardware I can test against... so I will be at your disposal if you would like. [12:31] I'm normally reachable here on Freenode during non-USA business hours [12:31] I'm based in EDT (-0400 GMT), so reasonable hours are appreciated [12:31] np [12:31] -0800 here === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:39] just to note, the perceptive loudness issue is likely caused by the TLV feature addition [12:39] it would be useful to have a button to get OUT of administrator mode once you're in it in system config [12:41] any suggestions for getting more involved with the testing aspect of things? [12:42] Majost: I can give you a patch in ~2.5 hours that will revert the culprit for testing, but I need to know the precise linux-source tree you're using [12:43] Majost: that's ~2.5 hours IF my current work is completed [12:44] heh [12:44] np [12:47] crimsun: I have to use 'options snd-hda-intel model=ref' with my SigmaTel STAC9227 for the mic to work and the mixer labels to seem more appropriate. is that something that needs fixed? [12:49] firephoto: likely. Pastebin your ``lspci -vvn && cat /proc/asound/card0/codec*'' [12:53] crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/405850 [12:54] firephoto: ok, so the default of STAC_D965_3ST doesn't work correctly? [12:54] firephoto: that is, for you, model=3stack [12:54] crimsun: no, the mic won't work and it shows a line in but that doesn't work either. standard stereo sound works. [12:55] ok, noted, will push later. [12:56] crimsun: it appears that I can't have line in and mic at the same time? is that the correct behavior? [12:56] firephoto: more precise, please. [12:57] well, it shows the in the mixer i have to choose either the mic, or line in as the input source. no slide option for both line in and mic. === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121g5q.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:02] -EPARSE [01:03] (please rephrase) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:08] crimsun: I can't use the rear jack at the same time I use the front jack. [01:10] firephoto: that's a routing issue. It may be intentional; I haven't read the 965 sheets. === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-244-121.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yacoob [i=yacoob@hell.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yacoob [i=yacoob@hell.pl] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === mjunx [n=matt@d47-69-106-221.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-244-121.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alleeEdgy32 [n=edgy32@hydra.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:44] anyone know how to choose between two media plugins for firefox (mplayer+totem) if you have both installed? [01:45] naught101: in firefox? no. try #ubuntu [01:46] whoops.. wrong channel [01:46] heh :) === manchicken [n=mstemle@network-65-167-67-16.doubleclick.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@59.40.100.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@59.40.102.239] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:36] so i just got off the phone w/ the hotel's tech support and apparently i got banned from accessing the internet for no reason [02:36] i blame linux :) [02:36] eh [02:37] i wasn't getting any outside access and i couldn't figure out why [02:37] so i called the hotel's tech support [02:37] and they said there was a port ban on my room [02:37] O.o [02:37] i asked why and they didn't have a reason other then i was using a peer to peer client [02:37] and i wasn't [02:37] jjesse: dodgy [02:38] i wonder wht the real reason [02:38] was [02:38] jjesse: they couldn't dig in to your system with their worms ;) [02:39] Tm_T: like i said i blame linux :) [02:39] blame them instead [02:39] i did, i told them that it was no way to treat a gold member of the hotel [02:40] they removed the ban [02:40] moin Hobbsee! [02:40] heya Jucato! [02:40] Hobbsee: too bad you missed the part last night were a C++ programmer was offering his services for the good of Kubuntu :) [02:41] Jucato: nice. who was it? [02:42] waylandbill [02:42] right [02:42] Riddell already got him working on adept-related stuff :) [02:43] nice :) [02:43] I'm in New York City right now. [02:43] :) [02:43] And BOY am I glad I don't live here. [02:45] haha [02:45] why am i not surprised === Jucato is glad he isn't living in the US. Period. [02:46] I'll probably die from hypothermia anyway... [02:46] Jucato ? [02:47] manchicken: what's wrong? === Jucato is not used to such low temperatures... but would probably last longer in the west coast... [02:47] About New York? [02:47] There's plenty wrong with New York :) [02:47] manchicken: anything particular this time? [02:48] Jucato: hmm, -40'C reached about every winter here [02:48] It's covered in rubbish. [02:48] This city smells like a rubbish tip. [02:48] aah, that's bad [02:48] And I'm not exaggerating, and I do know what one smells like :) [02:49] Tm_T: dude... the coldest temp here doesn't go below 20C... [02:49] manchicken: I've been working in rubbish tip [02:49] so that smell IS familiar :) [02:49] I've studied one for uni once. === Tm_T lives happily in countryside [02:50] Jucato: heh, well, winter is time when temp is -20 and summer it's +20 so I think we have good balance here :) [02:51] It's nice to be in a city like New York to make you really appreciate living in a small town :) [02:51] summer here reaches 34C+... === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-11fapcf.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-146.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A72418.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | test the upgrader https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main" === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Feb 22 16:32:11 2007 === lnxOsX [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel === naught101 [n=naught10@60-242-222-210.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:59] will k3b 1.0 make it into feisty? === lnxOsX [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.84] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:04] lontra: yep, soon I hope =) [07:05] giangy: sweet :D [07:05] i look forward to it [07:15] Jucato: this is annoying the heck out of me with Konqueror and these silly passwords [07:15] :( [07:17] nixternal: switch to gnome, you know you want to ;) [07:18] Jucato: can you get rid of trolls in this channel :) [07:19] haha [07:19] unfortunately... no :P [07:19] you'd have to bear w/ this one :) [07:19] I'm sure hobbsee would be more than willing to kick me ;) [07:19] Jucato: the bad part is he is a close KDE fan, just like his sidekick crimsun who works directly for Steve Ballmer [07:20] oh that *is* bad :) [07:22] that's ok, I have incriminating screencasts of nixternal using Vista happily. 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[11:08] /msg nickserv ghost [11:08] <_StefanS1_> or maybe I just have to wait.. [11:08] <_StefanS1_> oh nice [11:09] some say using recover and release is less drastic... === _StefanS1_ is now known as _StefanS_ [11:09] <_StefanS_> doesn't matter, this works fine [11:09] hehe :) [11:09] <_StefanS_> anything new happening ? [11:09] nothing new :) [11:09] <_StefanS_> uhm ok.. [11:09] same old same old [11:09] <_StefanS_> same ol' :) [11:09] (meaning, same old bug w/ new logout + domino style :D) [11:10] :-) [11:10] could somone familiar with qt i18n help me with bug #91651 please? it probably trivial :) [11:10] Malone bug 91651 in language-selector "[apport] qt-language-selector crashed with TypeError in _()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91651 [11:10] <_StefanS_> Jucato: [11:10] <_StefanS_> Jucato: hey bug the author of that nasty domino "patch" :) === _StefanS_ looks the other way .. [11:11] lol ok :) [11:11] I guess Domino's the only one doing that... [11:11] <_StefanS_> so far it seems.. [11:11] no biggie... [11:11] <_StefanS_> looks like he does the classical mistake of not doing e->ignore for his events, thus domino absorbs all keystrokes === glatzor [n=sebi@p57aed962.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:12] <_StefanS_> even though they aren't being used. === marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.179.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:12] hm. ok.. [11:13] <_StefanS_> you should write him a note. [11:14] I'll tell a friend who helped in fixing domino [11:14] and I'll quote you === _StefanS_ will probably look like a complete idiot :D [11:16] <_StefanS_> got the new hamster yet ? [11:16] sadly.. no :( [11:17] <_StefanS_> was it a macbook or something ? [11:17] nah [11:17] TwinHead Pentium M 1.6Ghz w/ 512MB of RAM [11:18] <_StefanS_> TwinHead? [11:18] <_StefanS_> is that the brand ? [11:19] yeah [11:19] <_StefanS_> uhm dont know it [11:19] yes. everybody doesn't seem to know it :D [11:19] and I don't know **why** my sister agreed to that model [11:20] <_StefanS_> too bad that wont take ddr2 modules.. I have a 512mb lying around [11:21] it can't? [11:21] <_StefanS_> nope its ddr.. [11:21] <_StefanS_> pc4300 or something [11:22] ah [11:22] hm.. brb really quick.. === pascalFR [i=W5K1A3nN@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180106193.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === waylandbill [n=kvirc@74-34-7-87.dsl1-merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180106193.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@wlan-236-021.pns.univie.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-134-75.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@249.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-134-75.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gol [n=goloo@host33-205-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gol [n=goloo@host33-205-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raw-knee [n=raw-knee@124.104.27.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pd950a5c6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] hi all [02:01] moin Tonio_! [02:01] fine Jucato ? [02:01] yep :) [02:01] I'm waiting for the freeze to end to start updloads [02:02] beta freeze ends on saturday? [02:02] on friday with any luck [02:03] in the mean time, testing of today's images needed [02:03] ah [02:03] cds got pushed to friday. cds appear to need....gah, Riddell types too fast [02:03] hi Riddell === Jucato can't test CD's now though :( [02:04] Riddell: yes I've seen beta is discarded due to kernel issue [02:04] Riddell: I'll test today'simage [02:04] Tonio_: postponed, not discarded [02:05] Hobbsee: that's the good word, yes, but you know my limited english :) [02:05] which is good enough (your english) :) [02:05] Tonio_: :) it's good enough [02:05] not as good as I'd like to.... vocabulary sometimes limits me [02:06] Tonio_: you dont speak to me in french and expect me to understand you, and look at me like i'm stupid when I dont. that's still a lot better than some people at work. [02:06] your first mistake is letting a frenchman think he can speak english well - it'll go to his head :p [02:06] hehe [02:06] hi Tonio_ ;-) [02:06] hey kwwii :) [02:06] hrm, lots to test [02:06] kwwii: true that globally french aren't very good in english.... === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:07] lol [02:07] kwwii: but people of english mother tong are globally even worse at practicing any language :) [02:07] (annma's pretty good) [02:07] Tonio_: heh. yes, there are some shocking native english speakers [02:07] raphink is good too ;) [02:08] kwwii is the exception, due to his perfect german ;) [02:08] the thing french are good at is bad words [02:08] I can insult people with abot 10 languages :) [02:08] s/abot/about [02:08] haha [02:08] yes, of course === Hobbsee can still swear at people in german. [02:09] Tonio_: lol, I get reminded almost every day that I have an accent :-) [02:10] I can in italian, english, french, spanish, polish, swiss german... [02:10] kwwii: that's the worst part, it is about impossible to be fluent without any accent at any other language but your native one.... [02:11] kwwii has a definate accent when speaking english too [02:11] kwwii: dont worry. i'll go to UDS, and everyone will tell me that i have an accent. and i'm a native english speaker. [02:11] :P [02:11] Riddell: haha :) [02:11] hehe [02:12] Riddell: worst of all, they keep asking me if I am english [02:12] Riddell: promiss me you'l demonstrate me your french at next UDS ! [02:12] when my accent is plainly american [02:12] Riddell: you can understand french so well, I'm pretty sure you can speak it too === Hobbsee wants to hear Riddell's attempt at french. and Tonio_'s speaking it. as long as she's not expected to understand it [02:13] Hobbsee: that, I can do, pretty easy ;) [02:13] Tonio_: :D === Tonio_ notices the channel didn't do a french day for long, as that sometimes happened in the past === manchicken [n=mstemle@network-65-167-67-16.doubleclick.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:14] je dclare officiellement la journe francophone du channel #kubuntu-devel [02:14] raphink: je vais avoir besoin de soutient ! [02:14] I think the last time you and someone else spoke french in here entirely was December? [02:14] terrible! [02:14] <_StefanS_> argh.. I dont understand a thing.. [02:14] Jucato: hehe, could well be [02:15] <_StefanS_> but thats the usual for me :D [02:15] _StefanS_: ahhh, you've given me an idea of what to do with all this spare ram here... [02:15] Jucato: a visitor coming speaking french ? [02:15] Tonio_: no. you were talking w/ raphink I thin [02:15] think* [02:15] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: so you're piling up some stuff too ? ;) [02:15] Riddell: good point using words that are the same in english and french hehe :) [02:15] Jucato: yes we sometimes do... [02:15] Riddell : Is the new bluetooth version already uploaded? [02:16] Jucato: but I'd say last time was in january with fabo [02:16] J'ai un besoin de Diet Dew :) [02:16] aaah [02:16] Mt. Dew? :D [02:16] _StefanS_: dad left his old company, and got a pile of old machines, etc, which some work. so we picked the ram out of those that didnt, and excesses otu of my old machine [02:16] rbrunhuber: non, nous sont en le freeze pour beta [02:16] Hells yeah. [02:16] don't tempt me :( [02:16] rbrunhuber: archives are frozen, I'll upload when freeze ends [02:16] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: maybe you should talk to manchicken, he could probably use some of that for his compilefarm [02:16] _StefanS_: indeed. should do that. [02:16] <_StefanS_> show me the money .... ! [02:17] <_StefanS_> :D [02:17] hehe [02:17] money? what money? [02:17] Jucato: With what? Diet Mountain Dew? It's Calorie free my homie. [02:17] I'm sorry i only learned german, english and latin :-) [02:17] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: ask Tonio_ [02:17] <_StefanS_> heh [02:17] manchicken: any "mt.dew"... and we don't have diet around here :( [02:17] Hells yeah I like free hardware. [02:17] <_StefanS_> just jkoing around .. === Tonio_ shows the money to racketer _StefanS_ === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:17] Remind me later to mail you a case of diet dew :) === Tonio_ remind the channel is is half italian... [02:18] _StefanS_: I should be the mafioso here ! [02:19] <_StefanS_> off to corsica.. === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:19] _StefanS_: and I have an uncle from corsica too.... [02:19] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: have you shaken down some m$ software salesmen lately ? [02:19] _StefanS_: shame on me I keep beeing an honnest guy despite my origins..... [02:19] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: for protection money i mean ? [02:20] _StefanS_: don't understand the question [02:20] _StefanS_: to shake down ? [02:20] <_StefanS_> could someone elaborate on the issue ? :) === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm136.omega23.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: the mob usually want to be paid protection, so no "accidents" happens [02:21] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: nevermind, it was a joke too hehe === Tonio_ reads, doesn't understand, but stays happy :) [02:22] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: thats ok, as long as you're happy :) [02:23] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: did you get that bluetooth thing done ? [02:25] _StefanS_: Comes to my favourate topic now :-) [02:25] _StefanS_: I did [02:25] <_StefanS_> oh nice [02:26] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: probably building :) [02:26] _StefanS_ : I did not hear this ... [02:26] nixternal: how's the beta release page coming? [02:29] I have another "wish" for the bluez-utils package. We should explain clearer the arguments to hidd [02:30] the text in /etc/default/bluetooth is rather confusing. === mjunx [n=matt@adsl-75-63-63-233.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:36] Wow, travelling isn't that hard afterall. [02:37] depends on where you want to get to [02:37] This NYC trip is helping me get over my flying jitters. [02:37] I actually had a pretty good time flying to NYC on Tuesday. [02:37] I'm actually looking forward to the flight home. [02:38] New York eh? Seen any mutant turtles yet? [02:38] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: bluetooth HIDD should just be enabled by default [02:38] Heh. [02:38] Not yet. [02:38] I do try to steer clear of the sewage system though. [02:38] big statues of french women? [02:38] Even though the sewage system doesn't return the favor. [02:38] Saw one on the flight in. [02:38] She looked kinda green and sickly though. [02:38] ;) [02:39] ew [02:39] NYC is a fun place to visit, but I'm glad I don't live here. [02:39] Though I've met a lot of great people. [02:39] _StefanS_: I think so too. It is always a big fun if you are not carfull at update and after the restart neither mouse nor keyboard works. [02:40] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: we are the only ones using blutooth HID devices. [02:40] _StefanS_: Not true vprints does too: see bug 93147 === Jucato is using one too... (I think) [02:40] Malone bug 93147 in bluez-utils "Bluetooth mouse dosen't reconnect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93147 [02:41] I couldn't pair my phone with my pc since upgrading to feisty. probably the same bug.. but I'm too lazy to investigate :D [02:42] Jucato: Look forward to the new bluez-utils package. Your bug is already solved. [02:42] ah kool [02:43] Jucato : But the package has not hit the archive yet. As Riddell said: non, nous sont en le freeze pour beta [02:44] yep. :) === jpetso [n=jpetso@wlan-236-021.pns.univie.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:44] Maybe _StefanS_ can provide you with the packages. He did for me too [02:45] nah I could wait :) [02:59] _StefanS_: Could get it to build the bluez-utils package yesterday too... . I should not "double patch" the pin helper. === kdefreak [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:05] What is the memory footprint of the hidd? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] grrr, i really dont get why some people cant understand information that's laid out before them. [03:10] Heya [03:11] O.o [03:11] "oh but i cant update directly from dapper to feisty! it's promised that you can update from a LTS" "Yes, to the next LTS. feisty is not a LTS" [03:11] "feisty will not be a LTS, no matter how many times you bring it up" [03:11] heh === Hobbsee had a similar guy trying to buy smokes off her tonight. [03:13] "i want the big size, in the soft pack" "which colour? lights or reds?" "i want the big size, in the soft pack" "okay, but that doesnt exist. i've got big in the hard pack, or litlte in the softpack" "i want the big size, in the soft pack"...repeat at infinitum. [03:14] heh [03:14] and off another woman. no, we no longer have the miligrams on the cigarettes. we havent for a couple of years. no, they wont appear, just because you repeat your question. no, i cant tell you what they are, as i dont know, as the info is no longer on there. [03:15] the government decided to put quitting smoking messages on that panel. not us. too bad. yes, we have put the price of smokes up. i dont care if you said you bought them chepaer yesterday, you're not getting htem cheaper today. we dont set the price. [03:15] and i know for a fact that you *didnt* get them cheaper yesterday, as i'd sold them last week at that price. === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:15] silly people. where's my cluebat. [03:17] Jucato: i should leave you to answer user support, it seems ;) [03:18] wah? :/ === Jucato is actually preparing a 2-part rant/post about FOSS user support :P [03:18] hehe [03:19] still, some of the customers tonight got a great laugh out of the idiot on sunday. so that was good :) === manchicken [n=mstemle@network-65-167-67-16.doubleclick.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:21] Hobbsee: Magic wands, cluebats, ... you start to scare me :-) [03:21] rbrunhuber: *grin* [03:21] rbrunhuber: magic wands dont exist. that's the problem [03:21] rbrunhuber: and you should be scared by the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:27] argh...this is going to be a very long time on a plane... [03:29] shush. you were sponsored. [03:29] :-) [03:29] i know that, otherwise i wouldnt be attempting it :P [03:29] and yet she's complaining... :P === Jucato wonders what it feels like to be on an international flight... [03:29] (I know - the gall! ;-) [03:29] Jucato: no, i'm looking at it, adn going "this looks big....really big..." [03:29] the plane? Beats traveling in a small plane internationally, I think ;-0 [03:29] the gall of that gal from AU with her long pointy stick of doom [03:30] crimsun: hehe, oh yeah === Hobbsee notes that she may wlel be going thru london, on this basis. [03:35] oh, i'm travelling on a friday, which is why i'm getting so few flight choices [03:35] heh, yeah [03:35] I should just remove myself from the running for all sponsorship. This work schedule is ridiculous. [03:35] is Riddell around? === Jucato would be shocked if he were atriangle or asquare... [03:35] :) [03:35] ok, tonight just isn't my night... now I'm cracking bad jokes... :/ === mbiebl [n=michael@p54a38d29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:35] I've written the code change, but don't know what to do next. I imagine a diff or patch has to be sent to him or something. [03:40] hi waylandbill [03:40] waylandbill: yes, a diff -u is good [03:40] I should email it? [03:40] or put on a web server somewhere [03:40] even better. one minutes. === Jucato counts down.... [03:40] :-S === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pd950fc36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:45] _StefanS_: bluez patch works here, thanks === Hobbsee concludes that she lives in the wrong continent. === Jucato therefore concludes that he lives in the wrong century... [03:46] hehe [03:46] Jucato: you'd do one step better thanme, i think [03:46] Riddell: http://silverbaseball.com/kubuntu_updater_Mar_22_2007.diff [03:46] I live in right century on the right continent. Everyone else lives on the wrong continent in the wrong century. [03:46] oh btw... wiki-using people: when i log in, it brings my page in, how can I go back to the page I was? [03:47] back button? :-) [03:47] Then reload to make it know that you're logged in. [03:47] it's a bzr diff. I figured that'd be the easiest to use. [03:47] hm ok ;) [03:50] any particular reason why basket depends on kmail? [03:51] it does? [03:52] Tm_T: yeah. kontact integration [03:52] Tm_T: i lost that battle [03:52] ah [03:52] basket depends on kontact which in turn depends on kmail [03:52] Hobbsee: hmm, evil, have to reinstall my selfcompiled kmail )( [03:53] I still don't know how to touch recursive [03:53] Tm_T: why? shouldn't your compiled version be the "preferred" version if you set the proper env vars? [03:54] Jucato: sure, if apt would know I have compiled it [03:54] (and installed) [03:54] apt doesn't matter, as long as you didn't install in /usr (afaik) [03:54] well, there I do install it [03:54] O.o [03:55] booh :P === Tm_T just overwrites all ] ;= [03:55] Tm_T: use checkinstall? [03:55] minimising duplicates that is :) [03:55] Hobbsee: ^^^^^ [03:55] xerosis: I will not, bad experiences === Jucato awaits Hobbsee's stick [03:56] Tm_T: hehe ok [03:56] xerosis: I'd rather do proper packages ;) === Hobbsee beats xerosis [03:56] me too.. but takes time to learn... :( [03:56] Hobbsee: oi! [03:56] I mean longer than just compiling :) [03:56] but can't see much piont to do packages either when I do compile kdepim several times a day usually === Jucato wants to learn to build proper packages to 1) share w/ others and 2) eventually pester Hobbsee to have them uploaded :P [03:57] I sorta learned and then forgot it [03:58] :) [03:58] anyway, heading for bed... earlier than Hobbsee... [03:58] ugh, yeah [03:58] Jucato: go ahead [03:58] migraine coming up.. :( [03:58] in inverse order [03:58] same thing for me with php. I learn some stuff because I need to do something, then leave it for months, forget everything, then I need it again :/ [03:58] apokryphos: sorry for leaving you in #kubuntu earlier, mate... [03:59] kinda not feeling right... [03:59] no worries [03:59] ok gotta go before migraine strikes and I take it out on some poor sould in #kubuntu... [03:59] Jucato: how you could feel right when I'm left? [03:59] rest! === Tm_T hides [03:59] you're lucky I have no access here :P === Jucato goes [04:11] Riddell: if you think of something else, I'd help out. Until then, I'll be fighting with this new feisty install. :-) [04:11] heya waylandbill [04:12] Hmmm... I create a gui with the qt4 designer and when I build that it fails in the generated code. Anyone noticed that yet? === apachelogger [n=me@M3141P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:13] waylandbill: are you testing a daily CD? [04:13] hunger: in the ui code? [04:14] Riddell: no. where are those kept? [04:14] waylandbill: In the code generated by uic-qt4 from my ui file. [04:14] waylandbill: we need testers for today's dailys before we can release them as beta [04:14] waylandbill: wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFiles [04:15] I'll try with KDE's qt-copy... maybe Qt4 is screwed here. [04:16] c'est journe francophone ici? [04:16] pourquoi c'est pas dit dans le sujet? [04:16] :) [04:16] "journe"? [04:16] nous avons un problem d'encoding [04:16] ah [04:17] je suis en utf8 [04:17] j'aime utilise un mot anglais que j'oublie la francais [04:17] hehe [04:17] idem dans l'autre sens === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:20] kubuntu-devel-fr?! [04:21] Does Feisty use the debian installer? And can it use encrypted disks now? [04:21] rbrunhuber: no. they just go into frenchdom from time to time. nothing new [04:22] Hobbsee : What a shame although france is one of our neighbour countries I never learned french [04:23] indeed [04:23] Hobbsee : I voted for LATIN in school. Could I please have a hint from your cluebat (although) it is already to late :-)? [04:23] hehe === rbrunhuber starts to write 100 times: "You must not write to if you mean too." [04:24] raphink disons que j'ai auto-dcrt a.... ;) [04:25] Is this really french? auto-dcrt a.... [04:25] rbrunhuber: yep, you can put "auto" between almost everything, to mean you did it yourself [04:26] example : "je me suis auto-appel" means you phoned to yourself [04:27] Tonio_ : I think i have an encoding problem. I see a lot of copyright signs and so. [04:27] hum, strange, works here......... I'm using utf-8.... [04:31] Tonio_: I have a lot of people complaining about this. Seems that miranda speaks another dialect of utf-8 :-) [04:31] hehe [04:31] rbrunhuber: ready for a test ? [04:31] http://planetemu.net/ [04:31] that webpage is french with utf-8 [04:31] problems with accents ? === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@adsl-64-237-201-218.prtc.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:43]