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| saispo | bersace: ping ? | 12:39 |
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| bersace | saispo: pong | 12:39 |
| saispo | :) | 12:40 |
| saispo | i try your solution, but don't find pipe :/ | 12:40 |
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| bersace | ISO_Level3_Shift + Maj + L | 12:41 |
| saispo | i use enter key in the num pad for 3rd group, but the conbinaison for pipe is ? | 12:41 |
| saispo | w00t | 12:41 |
| bersace | see gnome-keyboard-properties to examine keymap | 12:41 |
| bersace | my symbols map is as close as possible to Mac OS X one except the bugs | 12:41 |
| saispo | bersace: is more difficult than emacs :) | 12:41 |
| bersace | in Mac OS X, caps then give , not | 12:42 |
| bersace | saispo: lol | 12:42 |
| saispo | bersace: will find another key fir 3rd group :) | 12:42 |
| bersace | that's not easy | 12:42 |
| saispo | apple on the right is not needed ? | 12:43 |
| saispo | a virtual keyboard which present all touch is not present in gnome ? | 12:44 |
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| crimsun | argh, wtf. Upstream just reverted a patch that I made that reverted a patch that upstream made. So we get to reinstate what was correct all along. | 12:52 |
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| TheMuso | crimsun: What package? | 12:56 |
| crimsun | take a wild guess :-) | 01:00 |
| geser | alsa | 01:00 |
| crimsun | hda_intel.c | 01:00 |
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| TheMuso | oh ok | 01:03 |
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| sistpoty | gn8 everyone | 02:08 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:21 |
| RAOF | Heya bddebian | 02:22 |
| bddebian | Hi RAOF | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian, RAOF | 02:22 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 02:22 |
| RAOF | Hey Hobbsee | 02:22 |
| racarr | That was an absurdely large amount of greetings for 3 people | 02:23 |
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| RAOF | I was hoping to get into a cycle of infinite greetings. | 02:24 |
| bddebian | heh | 02:24 |
| racarr | RAOF: That seems possible if you had a greeting chain so long that people left and came back during it | 02:25 |
| racarr | :p | 02:25 |
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| RAOF | racarr: Or, maybe, you could have a cyclic greeting graph that spanned channels! | 02:27 |
| racarr | RAOF: It's only socially proper if it's Hamiltonian! | 02:28 |
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| bddebian | HI AJMITCH!! | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | I could come up with some nasty reply to anyone who greets me | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | but that would violate the CoC | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:34 |
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| crimsun | well, that's more overt than imply breaking their audio :-) | 02:42 |
| crimsun | simply, even | 02:42 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 02:44 |
| bddebian | HI CRIMSUN | 02:47 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: your caps lock appears to be stuck | 02:47 |
| bddebian | nah | 02:47 |
| ajmitch | please go & take a hammer to your keyboard to fix it | 02:47 |
| crimsun | bddebian: HI 1/3 DEITY! | 02:48 |
| bddebian | not hardly :-( | 02:48 |
| crimsun | your wiki page belies you | 02:48 |
| bddebian | My wiki page? | 02:52 |
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| crimsun | BdDebianIsAGod | 02:54 |
| crimsun | spelled correctly, of course | 02:54 |
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| LaserJock | hi guys | 02:56 |
| LaserJock | HI BDDEBIAN | 02:57 |
| TheMuso | Does GTK, and more specifically glade, allow you to create combo boxes that also allow text entry? If so, what is the widget class name? | 02:57 |
| TheMuso | Referring to https://launchpad.net/bugs/59386 | 02:58 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 59386 in gnome-ppp "using /dev/ttyUSB0 in gnome-ppp" [Medium,Confirmed] | 02:58 |
| LaserJock | what do you mean by text entry? | 02:58 |
| shawarma | Probably a GtkTextEntry. :-) | 02:58 |
| LaserJock | shawarma: ha ha, very helpful | 02:58 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: I have seen combbo boxes that also allow you to enter text by hand. So you can either choose from a dropdown list, or enter something by typing ti in. | 02:58 |
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| TheMuso | s/ti/it/ | 02:59 |
| TheMuso | I thought that doing that for the above bug would be a quick fix at least. | 02:59 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | TheMuso: interesting | 03:00 |
| shawarma | LaserJock: Hmm.. I'm mistaken. I was thinking of a GtkEntry. | 03:00 |
| TheMuso | Can't remember where I saw that though. | 03:00 |
| TheMuso | But since I don't delve into GUI specifics much, I could be totally wrong. | 03:01 |
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| zul | hey | 03:21 |
| LaserJock | hi zul | 03:23 |
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| zul | hery LaserJock | 03:23 |
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| === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-motu.log | ||
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO | http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by Adri2000 at Mon Mar 12 19:15:54 2007 | ||
| (joejaxx/#ubuntu-motu) ajmitch: that is good to hear :) | 05:14 | |
| (jdong/#ubuntu-motu) hmm neither .6 or .8 work | 05:14 | |
| (jdong/#ubuntu-motu) that means I should sleep :) | 05:14 | |
| === ajmitch can connect | ||
| jdong | hmm | 05:15 |
| jdong | ok, I'll blame my network and call it a night | 05:15 |
| jdong | Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com|91.189.89.8|:80... | 05:16 |
| joejaxx | jdong: i had that problem yesterday | 05:17 |
| jdong | oh look at that.... | 05:17 |
| jdong | silly firestarter, assuming static ip's is for kids. | 05:18 |
| joejaxx | :P | 05:18 |
| crimsun | argh, this macbook saga just doesn't stop | 05:19 |
| jdong | is libnotify working for you guys? | 05:19 |
| jdong | somehow after this week's updating, libnotify popups no longer show for me. | 05:19 |
| crimsun | I hate notification bubbles anyhow. | 05:20 |
| jdong | notify-send foo bar; nothing happens.... | 05:20 |
| jdong | crimsun: lol :) | 05:20 |
| joejaxx | crimsun: macbook saga? | 05:20 |
| joejaxx | lol | 05:20 |
| crimsun | fix one revision, breaks three others | 05:20 |
| joejaxx | :\ | 05:20 |
| jdong | wow. | 05:20 |
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| joejaxx | LaserJock: hello | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | hi joejaxx | 07:03 |
| joejaxx | how are you? | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | oh, pretty good | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | you? | 07:05 |
| joejaxx | that is good | 07:05 |
| joejaxx | i am ok | 07:05 |
| joejaxx | i am waiting for the new d-i and udebs to be published | 07:05 |
| joejaxx | :) | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | do they have good stuff for you? | 07:07 |
| joejaxx | who? | 07:07 |
| LaserJock | the new d-i and udebs | 07:07 |
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| joejaxx | i am hoping it fixes the no cdrom detected problem | 07:08 |
| joejaxx | when you run the alternative discs | 07:10 |
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| racarr | If I'm packaging something (new desktop-effects), that's python, and loads a module at runtime | 08:10 |
| racarr | If beryl is installed (or after it installs Beryl) | 08:11 |
| racarr | it's ok not to have it as a dependency, right? | 08:11 |
| racarr | and is there anywhere I should put it in the control file, etc? | 08:11 |
| racarr | As in, it checks itself if what it needs is installed, because it needs to be in main, but Beryl probably can't | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | right | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | you could have it as Suggests: or Recommends: | 08:12 |
| racarr | Suggests is less authorative right? | 08:13 |
| racarr | and apt, etc installs recommends now? | 08:13 |
| Fujitsu | Suggests is probably the best idea. | 08:14 |
| Fujitsu | As you could very well want desktop-effects without beryl. | 08:14 |
| racarr | ok well I'll autotoolize package etc all of this in a bit...I hate autotools >< | 08:16 |
| Ademan | anyone know why jedit isn't packaged? it seems to be gpl and all that, is it just no one's done it yet? | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | Ademan: it's java isn't it? | 08:17 |
| Ademan | indeed | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | that's probably why | 08:18 |
| Ademan | pain in the ass factor of java packages? | 08:18 |
| Ademan | their website has a debian repository though, so i'd guess most of the work is already done... | 08:19 |
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| racarr | an editor in java, that must take even longer to start up than emacs | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | Ademan: well many Java apps only work with Sun's JVM | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | so they might as well be non-free | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | racarr: I've heard it's not bad at all | 08:21 |
| racarr | I've never actually heard about it, I just couldn't resist the opportunity to take a shot at emacs AND java | 08:21 |
| Ademan | lol | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | it's a fairly popular editor | 08:22 |
| Ademan | vim uber alles | 08:22 |
| Ademan | anyways, isn't sun releasing the jvm under the gpl? | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | yes, eventually | 08:22 |
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| racarr | JEdit features page: Copy and paste with an unlimited number of clipboards (known as "registers") | 08:24 |
| racarr | *cough emacs cough* | 08:24 |
| Ademan | meh, i guess i'll go back to hating autoconf and automake for a while | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | I find Java apps to be a real shame that way | 08:24 |
| racarr | Ademan: Me too! | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | there are several Chemistry apps I'd love to get into Ubuntu | 08:25 |
| crimsun | hey neat, beryl were source NEWd | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | they are GPL's | 08:25 |
| Ademan | wait what? | 08:25 |
| racarr | crimsun: source NEWd? | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | made it through the NEW queue | 08:25 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun: It actually passed!? | 08:25 |
| Ademan | is that like nekked? | 08:25 |
| crimsun | oh, that was just beryl-settings | 08:25 |
| racarr | ah yeah | 08:25 |
| racarr | everything else is still in new, heh | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | it actually goes through NEW twice | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | the first time is for the source package | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | then it gets build | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | s/d/t/ | 08:27 |
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| LaserJock | and then it goes through binary NEW | 08:27 |
| racarr | does binary new take as long? | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | no | 08:32 |
| racarr | mm, well I hope someone finds the time to look at them soon so they get some good testing | 08:32 |
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| cbx33 | beta out today? | 09:25 |
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| wereHamster|zZz | morning \sh :) | 09:27 |
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| stgraber | morning | 09:37 |
| stgraber | cbx33: should be | 09:37 |
| \sh | moins | 09:37 |
| tepsipakki | cbx33, stgraber: nope, delayed for tomorrow | 09:38 |
| stgraber | ok :( | 09:38 |
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| ajmitch | evening | 10:06 |
| RAOF | Eventide | 10:06 |
| \sh | hey ajmitch | 10:06 |
| === RAOF wonders where ajmitch is, given it's *also* evening for him :) | ||
| ajmitch | RAOF: now which part of .au are you in again? | 10:06 |
| RAOF | Sydney. | 10:06 |
| ajmitch | aha | 10:06 |
| ajmitch | so we're only 1 hour ahead for a change | 10:06 |
| ajmitch | hey \sh | 10:07 |
| === ajmitch is in NZ | ||
| RAOF | Aaah. | 10:07 |
| jussi01 | hi ajmitch, RAOF | 10:07 |
| === jussi01 is an expat aussie... | ||
| ajmitch | jussi01: I can understand you running :) | 10:07 |
| jussi01 | lol | 10:07 |
| RAOF | ...you just should have run to Hobart. | 10:07 |
| ajmitch | hah | 10:07 |
| === jussi01 lives on the other side of the word | ||
| === ajmitch hasn't made it to hobart yet | ||
| === RAOF lived there for... 15 years. | ||
| === jussi01 's mother is from hobart | ||
| RAOF | Hobart is awesome, and doesn't languish at 100% humidity for a week like Sydney :/ | 10:09 |
| === jussi01 loves the fact that where he lives is covered in snow at the moment.... | ||
| TheMuso | RAOF: Where in Sydney? | 10:11 |
| TheMuso | Yey! Another Sydneysider. | 10:11 |
| RAOF | Rose bay, actually. | 10:11 |
| ajmitch | too many sydney types around here | 10:11 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 10:11 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: You? | 10:11 |
| jussi01 | I was born in perth... but grew up in geelong... | 10:12 |
| === ajmitch at least visited sydney last year :) | ||
| TheMuso | RAOF: Croydon. | 10:12 |
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| RAOF | Cool, although I don't actually know Sydney very well :-/ | 10:12 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 10:13 |
| RAOF | I don't suppose anyone wants to review gnome-compiz-manager while I eat some dinner? | 10:13 |
| RAOF | Also, I don't suppose it's likely to get in now, even though there's a package sitting in NEW still. | 10:13 |
| RAOF | Mmm, tuna toasties! | 10:14 |
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| racarr | Does anyone have time to look at my new desktop-effects? | 10:24 |
| racarr | the packaging I mean, I had to redo it | 10:24 |
| racarr | actually I should probably add a timer like the original one has incase beryl/compiz fails to start | 10:27 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 10:35 |
| \sh | moins dholbach | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | hey daniel | 10:38 |
| dholbach | hey \sh, hey andrew | 10:42 |
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| pochu | heya | 10:52 |
| gpocentek | morning | 10:53 |
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| viviersf | sigh | 10:54 |
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| ajmitch | hey viviersf | 10:55 |
| viviersf | hey, howz you | 10:55 |
| ajmitch | good, you | 10:55 |
| ajmitch | ? | 10:55 |
| viviersf | nah im good thx | 10:56 |
| viviersf | just hate it when i dont know how to do something | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 10:56 |
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| dholbach | does anybody of us look into exaile? | 12:14 |
| dholbach | it's CRASH-O-RAMA | 12:14 |
| dholbach | we get zillions of duplicates | 12:14 |
| dholbach | would be nice to get a new upstream version or debian fixes for it | 12:14 |
| Fujitsu | I've seen a whole lot of bugs about it, yeah... | 12:15 |
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| shawarma | dholbach: I suppose I could take a look. i've hacked on it before. | 12:15 |
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| StevenK | shawarma: Ahh, so it's your fault! | 12:15 |
| shawarma | I also remember it started crashing om me when we moved to python 2.5 | 12:15 |
| dholbach | just run bugnumbers -p exaile to get a first impression :-) | 12:16 |
| Fujitsu | It has a whopping 1/200 of the universe bugs... :( | 12:16 |
| dholbach | i didn't know it was that popular | 12:17 |
| shawarma | Fujitsu: How can you tell? | 12:17 |
| shawarma | dholbach: bugnumbers? which package is that in? | 12:17 |
| dholbach | bughelper | 12:17 |
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| Fujitsu | I can see it has 26 bugs, and we have 5041 universe bugs. | 12:17 |
| Fujitsu | s/uni/{un,mult}i/ | 12:17 |
| shawarma | Only 5041? Wow. | 12:17 |
| Fujitsu | That's about a fifth of the Ubuntu total, which isn't too bad. | 12:17 |
| shawarma | I think it's interesting that a python application manages to trigger that many segmentation faults.. | 12:19 |
| Fujitsu | Gr. | 12:19 |
| Fujitsu | Is anybody else noticing beta returning a lot of empty responses? | 12:19 |
| shawarma | lp beta? | 12:20 |
| shawarma | No. | 12:20 |
| Fujitsu | Darn. | 12:20 |
| Fujitsu | It's particularly frequent tonight. | 12:20 |
| dholbach | deluge-torrent has some python crasher bugs too | 12:22 |
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| shawarma | Are any of you experiencing it? | 12:23 |
| shawarma | The exaile crashes. Not lp weirdness. | 12:24 |
| dholbach | python crashers should be fine to just forward upstream | 12:25 |
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| shawarma | dholbach: I'm just thinking it might be .pyc files from the 2.4 days that might be messing things up.. | 12:26 |
| StevenK | dholbach: -uvf has been resubscribed to #90749 asking for getting 0.5 into Feisty | 12:26 |
| dholbach | StevenK: alright - looking into it | 12:26 |
| dholbach | bug 90749 | 12:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 90749 in deluge-torrent "Deluge 0.5 in feisty" [Wishlist,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90749 | 12:26 |
| shawarma | A "forward to upstream bug tracker" button in Launchpad would rock *so* hard. | 12:29 |
| StevenK | dholbach: I'm happy to merge deluge 0.5 if the UVF gets approved. | 12:29 |
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| StevenK | dholbach: You just said 'thanks for the report' on bug 94580, but Package: deluge-torrent 0.5.0 | 12:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 94580 in deluge-torrent "[apport] deluge crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94580 | 12:31 |
| dholbach | StevenK: and marked it as medium | 12:33 |
| dholbach | and assigned to motu | 12:33 |
| StevenK | dholbach: Same thing with bug 94572 | 12:33 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 94572 in deluge-torrent "[apport] deluge crashed with DuplicateTorrentError in sync()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94572 | 12:33 |
| dholbach | so it doesn't show up on the unconfirmed/undecided list | 12:33 |
| dholbach | and the backtrace is clear | 12:33 |
| dholbach | you can forward it to upstream just like that | 12:33 |
| Fujitsu | Is it really a great idea to assign to MOTU? That takes it off the unassigned list... | 12:34 |
| StevenK | But most of the deluge bugs look to be against versions that we don't have in the archive. | 12:34 |
| Fujitsu | And the MOTU bug list is unlikely to ever get looked at. | 12:34 |
| dholbach | it'd be nice if you pointed that out on the bug reports | 12:34 |
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| StevenK | I can, but I'm pointing it out to you since you commented on them both roughly 10 minutes ago. | 12:35 |
| dholbach | StevenK: i'm going through 600 apport bugs atm | 12:35 |
| StevenK | Neat | 12:35 |
| dholbach | I don't intend to follow up on all of them | 12:35 |
| StevenK | Hrm. | 12:35 |
| dholbach | but I want to get clean retraces for all of them (where appropriate) - after a while retracing doesn't make sense any more | 12:36 |
| dholbach | it'd be a shame if people uploaded crash reports and they'd rot in LP | 12:36 |
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| dholbach | StevenK: so I'd appreciate it if you'd leave a comment on those bugs | 12:37 |
| StevenK | I'm going to reject both of them, given the version. | 12:37 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot | 12:37 |
| Lutin | hey there | 12:38 |
| dholbach | hey Lutin | 12:38 |
| Lutin | hi dholbach | 12:38 |
| Lutin | dholbach: you assigned bug #94580 to MOTU bug it's reported against deluge 0.5.0, which doesnt seem to be in ubuntu ... am I missing something ? | 12:40 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 94580 in deluge-torrent "[apport] deluge crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94580 | 12:40 |
| StevenK | Lutin: I'm about to reject | 12:40 |
| dholbach | Lutin: sorry, the version number didn't occur to me to be wrong | 12:40 |
| Lutin | ok | 12:40 |
| dholbach | Lutin: I just said before: I'm doing the initial triage of crasher bugs (asking for retrace, assign to the right people, set importance) | 12:41 |
| dholbach | I'd really appreciate help with that | 12:41 |
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| dholbach | I linked the motu crasher bugs on MOTU/TODO | 12:41 |
| Lutin | dholbach: ok | 12:41 |
| dholbach | so hopefully people will help out with those bugs tomorrow on Universe HUG DAY | 12:41 |
| dholbach | it'd be great to get some of those crashers resolved for release - maybe we can just grab a debian version or a new upstream version which fixes it | 12:42 |
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| racarr | does anyone have time to look at the packaging at: http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/rc/ | 01:26 |
| racarr | it's for the desktop-effects rewrite | 01:26 |
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| geser | racarr: looking at it | 01:38 |
| Fujitsu | desktop-effects is main... | 01:38 |
| racarr | geser: I uploaded it to REVU incidentally | 01:38 |
| geser | the version should be 1.0-0ubuntu1 | 01:38 |
| racarr | Fujitsu: Yes but I still need people to look over it | 01:38 |
| Fujitsu | racarr: Good point. | 01:38 |
| racarr | geser: Ok, I wasn't sure about that but should have looked it up | 01:39 |
| racarr | Fujitsu: As the above indicates, I definitely need people to look over it :p | 01:39 |
| racarr | geser: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4723 uploaded a fix for the ubuntu1 should show up soon | 01:40 |
| geser | W: desktop-effects; Executable /usr/share/desktop-effects/desktop-effects.glade with perms 0755 is not an ELF file or script. | 01:40 |
| geser | W: desktop-effects: binary-without-manpage desktop-effects | 01:41 |
| geser | E: desktop-effects: python-script-but-no-python-dep ./usr/bin/desktop-effects | 01:41 |
| geser | E: desktop-effects: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl | 01:41 |
| racarr | geser: mm I thought python-gconf depended on python | 01:41 |
| racarr | and python-gtk2 | 01:42 |
| Fujitsu | I smell Python Policy non-compliance. | 01:42 |
| geser | apparently lintian doesn't check recurively | 01:42 |
| fernando | moin all | 01:43 |
| \sh | Can I remove wine from Ubuntu? ,-) | 01:43 |
| Fujitsu | \sh: Still giving you issues? | 01:43 |
| \sh | Fujitsu: well, this issue from yesterday, we'll investigate... | 01:43 |
| \sh | Fujitsu: but I can't test crashes like playing far cry or something like this, I don't have those programs and no hardware | 01:44 |
| geser | racarr: do you know http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ already? | 01:44 |
| racarr | geser: Parts | 01:44 |
| StevenK | racarr: The .glade shouldn't be 0755, too | 01:44 |
| StevenK | Like Linda siad | 01:44 |
| StevenK | Er, said | 01:44 |
| \sh | dholbach: do we have hardcore 3d ego shooter player in the bugsquad team? | 01:46 |
| dholbach | \sh: no idea | 01:46 |
| \sh | well, farcry is not on the list of apps in wine...somehow, and I can't test it because of no hw and sw...and no far cry license ... so what do I do? reject it? | 01:47 |
| StevenK | geser: Do you want to update bug 94263 with a proper sync request, or shall I? | 01:48 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 94263 in ez-ipupdate "Please merge ez-ipupdate 3.0.11b8-12 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94263 | 01:48 |
| jwendell | can any sponsor take a look at my packages? https://launchpad.net/~wendell/+assignedbugs?search=Search&field.status=In+Progress | 01:48 |
| geser | StevenK: I wanted to do it later but if you have time now you can do it. | 01:49 |
| StevenK | geser: Aye, doing so. | 01:49 |
| StevenK | jwendell: I'll look at one in a sec | 01:49 |
| racarr | okuploaded a few of the fixes... | 01:49 |
| geser | racarr: you're missing a 's' in Suggests in your control file | 01:50 |
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| StevenK | geser: Do it later, it gives Debian time to get -13 onto the mirrors | 01:53 |
| racarr | I'll get that uploaded in just a second, doing a patch now to use adept/kde if available | 01:55 |
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| jekil | hello | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 01:57 |
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| racarr | geser: Uploaded a new version with a patch (and hence a removed dependency) and the suggests fix, permissions, etc | 02:03 |
| StevenK | jwendell: I've munged bug 73983 to be a sync | 02:08 |
| Ubugtu | Bug 73983 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/73983 is private | 02:08 |
| StevenK | Um, bug 73893 | 02:09 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 73893 in cryptmount "Empty examples directory" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73893 | 02:09 |
| StevenK | Thanks for showing I'm an idiot, Ubugtu. | 02:09 |
| pochu | geser: do u know if bug 93540 is going to be approved? :) | 02:09 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 93540 in liferea "UVF exception: liferea 1.2.8" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93540 | 02:09 |
| jwendell | StevenK, but it's too late for merges, not? | 02:10 |
| jwendell | StevenK, i've updated maintainer fields with that debdiff too | 02:11 |
| StevenK | jwendell: It shouldn't be. | 02:11 |
| StevenK | jwendell: And? The updated maintainer field is only required if the version is -XubuntuY. Which a sync from Debian won't be. | 02:12 |
| jwendell | ok | 02:12 |
| StevenK | jwendell: As a consqeuence, I've unsubscribed ubuntu-universe-sponsors and unassigned the bug. | 02:13 |
| jwendell | StevenK, ok | 02:14 |
| StevenK | Oops. | 02:14 |
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| geser | racarr: is revu for you also broken if you want to see the details for your package? | 02:15 |
| dholbach | man... the firestarter installation/upgrade/purging problems are quite a lot already | 02:16 |
| dholbach | could somebody look into this and see if it the maintainer scripts are fixed in debian? | 02:16 |
| racarr | geser: Yes | 02:16 |
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| geser | pochu: liferea is in main and I don't know the details for UVF exceptions there | 02:17 |
| geser | a revu admin around? | 02:17 |
| pochu | this should help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess :) | 02:18 |
| geser | racarr: the last package that I could get from REVU has still W: desktop-effects: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/share/desktop-effects/desktop-effects.glade | 02:18 |
| geser | E: desktop-effects: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl | 02:18 |
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| racarr | geser: Err...I thought I fixed that just a second | 02:19 |
| racarr | and what is meant by the second warning? | 02:19 |
| elkbuntu | im guessing you did it the wrong way? | 02:21 |
| geser | debian/copyright should point to the full text of the GPL which can be found in /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL | 02:21 |
| stgraber | racarr: it means that you should refer to /usr/share/common-licences/ in your copyright file | 02:21 |
| stgraber | geser: you're too fast for me ... | 02:21 |
| ivoks | there is a template for copyright file | 02:21 |
| elkbuntu | the error is quite self-explanatory really | 02:22 |
| jwendell | StevenK, who will take care of that bug? | 02:22 |
| ivoks | if program is GPL, then you should just 'link' it on existing GPL on Ubuntu | 02:22 |
| ivoks | like this; | 02:22 |
| ivoks | The software is released under GNU GPLv2. For more info | 02:22 |
| ivoks | see /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL | 02:22 |
| racarr | elkbuntu: It seems like there are several ways to interpret it :/ | 02:22 |
| ivoks | geser: for example, take a look at /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/copyright | 02:23 |
| elkbuntu | i only interpret it one way.. how were you interpreting it? | 02:23 |
| racarr | I wasn't sure how to interpret it, I guessed it was something like that but it wasn't really unambiguous, and I wasn't usre if there was something very specific I had to do | 02:23 |
| racarr | ok fixed copyright... | 02:24 |
| racarr | will look at why it still thinks the glade is an executable now (I was sure I fixed that?) | 02:25 |
| elkbuntu | i would think there'd be a nice big section explaining licencing dos and donts in the debian packaging guide thingie.. but i've not read it myself so i could be wrong | 02:25 |
| StevenK | elkbuntu: There is | 02:25 |
| StevenK | elkbuntu: So nyah | 02:25 |
| elkbuntu | StevenK, so nyah.. i (kinda) knew without even reading it... im just *that* good | 02:26 |
| StevenK | elkbuntu: Uh huh. :-) | 02:26 |
| geser | racarr: if you lintian -i on the generated deb you get an explanation to each E: and W: | 02:26 |
| StevenK | Because it's rude to disagree... | 02:26 |
| elkbuntu | StevenK, ha! | 02:26 |
| racarr | Oops! | 02:26 |
| StevenK | elkbuntu: :-) | 02:26 |
| racarr | I did 655 instead of 644 -_- | 02:26 |
| racarr | geser: Ok | 02:27 |
| StevenK | racarr: Ha! That'd do it | 02:27 |
| racarr | StevenK: 4 for read...plus 0 for write and execute...equals 5! | 02:27 |
| racarr | ok uploaded fixes | 02:28 |
| StevenK | racarr: Your math needs a little work. :-) | 02:28 |
| racarr | it was more likely my typing, but whatever | 02:29 |
| StevenK | Blame your fingers, sure. | 02:30 |
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| racarr | geser: Uploaded fixes for all of those..... | 02:32 |
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| geser | racarr: have to wait for someone who can fix revu | 02:36 |
| racarr | ok I can throw them on my fdo apge in the meantime | 02:36 |
| racarr | geser: http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/rc/ | 02:38 |
| racarr | err, I left the old ubuntu4 ones up there as well, but just ignore them , heh | 02:38 |
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| geser | racarr: DEB_INSTALL_DOCS_beryl-settings-bindings := README NEWS in debian/rules | 02:49 |
| racarr | I've been told several times over the past few days | 02:50 |
| racarr | that cdbs takes care of that now | 02:50 |
| racarr | and it's useless | 02:50 |
| racarr | and I ended up removing it from all the beryl packages | 02:50 |
| racarr | are you sure? | 02:50 |
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| geser | you have it in your debian/rules for d-e | 02:50 |
| geser | so either remove it or fix the package name in it | 02:50 |
| geser | and the install/beryl-{k,}ubuntu:: targets are useless there too | 02:51 |
| geser | and linda/lintian still report W: desktop-effects; Executable /usr/share/desktop-effects/desktop-effects.glade with perms 0755 is not an ELF file or script. | 02:55 |
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| racarr | I don't get that anymore... | 02:58 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:10 |
| geser | Hi bddebian | 03:10 |
| bddebian | Hi geser | 03:11 |
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| bigon | hi, is revu broken? | 03:50 |
| geser | seems so | 03:51 |
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| Toadstool | g'morning! | 04:11 |
| bddebian | Heya Toadstool | 04:11 |
| Toadstool | hi bddebian | 04:11 |
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| slomo | siretart: are you sure you run seahorse 0.9.7? i know of this bug only since seahorse 0.9.10 or something and it's "fixed" in experimental by a conflict now | 04:31 |
| siretart | slomo: that's not an option here: we are running a sunray server, with some users running kde and some gnome | 04:32 |
| siretart | slomo: please remove the conflicts, I'd have to recompile the seahorse package to remove the conflict | 04:32 |
| slomo | siretart: it<# | 04:37 |
| slomo | siretart: it's an upstream conflict... they check in configure if gpg2 is installed and if it is abort :/ | 04:37 |
| slomo | no idea how this can be fixed correctly | 04:37 |
| siretart | slomo: don't start either gnupg-agent nor seahorse via Xsession | 04:37 |
| siretart | slomo: and make them only warn and not panic if the see each other | 04:37 |
| siretart | slomo: seahorse should imho better be started via gnome-session than Xsession.d | 04:37 |
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| slomo | siretart: i'll talk with seahorse upstream later | 04:37 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO | http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by Adri2000 at Mon Mar 12 19:15:54 2007 | ||
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| bersace | siretart: seems my patch has broken revu | 05:53 |
| bersace | you should replace in scripts/Comments.py:170 (currentlevel == 'contributor') ? row['isadvocating'] : "" by row['isadvocating'] | 05:53 |
| siretart | bersace: please give me a link to demonstrate the bug | 05:55 |
| bersace | siretart: you have to be a contributor | 05:56 |
| bersace | or dunno | 05:56 |
| siretart | oh | 05:56 |
| bersace | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3184 | 05:56 |
| bersace | go to flood | 05:56 |
| bersace | if you want me to post you the python error | 05:56 |
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| MrStein | Hi! I wonder, why does Feisty ship with discover v1.x when debian swiched to v2 ages ago (in Sarge) ? | 05:58 |
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| jussi01 | Hi motu's, could someone tell me how to enable the universe repo in pbuilder?? | 06:00 |
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| mr_pouit | jussi01: iirc, you have to uncomment the line starting with COMPONENTS | 06:02 |
| Laser_away | MrStein: I think we have v2 | 06:02 |
| mr_pouit | COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" for example | 06:02 |
| jussi01 | mr_pouit, in which file... | 06:02 |
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| mr_pouit | jussi01: /etc/pbuilderrc or ~/.pbuilderrc | 06:03 |
| MrStein | Laser_away: I _know_ it is v1 | 06:03 |
| Laser_away | MrStein: it's been v2 the whole time in Ubuntu, since warty | 06:03 |
| MrStein | Laser_away: The Herd 5 desktop i386 CD uses v1.7.19ubuntu1 | 06:03 |
| Laser_away | MrStein: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/discover | 06:04 |
| Laser_away | MrStein: umm, unless we are talking about different packages that's not the case | 06:04 |
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| jussi01 | mr_pouit, thank you very much | 06:04 |
| mr_pouit | np ;) | 06:04 |
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| MrStein | Laser_away: dpkg-query -S `which discover` prints : discover1: /sbin/discover | 06:06 |
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| Laser_away | MrStein: did you dist-ugprade or something? | 06:08 |
| MrStein | Laser_away: nothing | 06:08 |
| === MrStein just inserted the Herd 5 CD and waited for it to load | ||
| MrStein | boot, that is | 06:08 |
| Laser_away | MrStein: on my feisty I get "discover: /sbin/discover" | 06:10 |
| MrStein | I got it from the official site | 06:10 |
| Laser_away | got what? | 06:10 |
| MrStein | does "discover display" work or report an error for you ? | 06:10 |
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| MrStein | Laser_away: The CD I am talking about all the time ;-) | 06:11 |
| Laser_away | MrStein: it gives me a Buss error | 06:11 |
| Laser_away | *Bus | 06:11 |
| MrStein | Jezus .... | 06:12 |
| Laser_away | MrStein: but Ubuntu has never had discover v1 as far as I can tell | 06:12 |
| Laser_away | so I have no idea how you could have gotten it | 06:12 |
| gnomefreak | !discover1 | 06:12 |
| ubotu | discover1: hardware identification system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.18ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 212 kB | 06:12 |
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| gnomefreak | its in feisty also "dicover" is in uni its 2.1.1 | 06:13 |
| MrStein | Laser_away: I got it here : http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5#head-de3d3f8b48e23a9bdc7294cc93da21f483949673 | 06:14 |
| MrStein | to be precise , this is it : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/feisty-desktop-i386.iso | 06:15 |
| Laser_away | gnomefreak: ahhh | 06:15 |
| Laser_away | MrStein: ok, now we figured it out | 06:15 |
| MrStein | great :-9 | 06:16 |
| MrStein | :-) | 06:16 |
| tepsipakki | our beloved xorg relies on discover1 | 06:16 |
| Laser_away | MrStein: we have both v1 and v2 | 06:16 |
| MrStein | sure ? running xorg on itself actually works better than with the created xorg.conf ;-) | 06:16 |
| tepsipakki | the configuration | 06:17 |
| tepsipakki | you can remove it after installation | 06:17 |
| tepsipakki | discover1, that is | 06:17 |
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| MrStein | can anyone tel me where do I find xserver-xorg.postinst.in from the feisty (on the web preferably ) ? | 06:20 |
| tepsipakki | that's in the source-package, but the real generated file is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.postinst | 06:22 |
| MrStein | Hmm, as I see it, the xorg postinst can work with both discover v1 and v2. I doubt on part of xorg package suports v2 and other parts do not. What do you think ? | 06:23 |
| MrStein | on=one | 06:23 |
| tepsipakki | we are not going to change that for feisty | 06:23 |
| tepsipakki | instead the goal is to get rid of it completely for feisty+1 | 06:23 |
| MrStein | OK, I guess 2007 is not the year when I start to use Ubuntu | 06:24 |
| gnomefreak | feisty+1 == oct | 06:25 |
| tepsipakki | MrStein: how so? | 06:25 |
| gnomefreak | or install ubuntu :) | 06:25 |
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| tepsipakki | MrStein: oh you filed a bug recently? | 06:26 |
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| gnomefreak | tepsipakki: he did and you commented on it ;) | 06:27 |
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| tepsipakki | so many bugs, so little time ;) | 06:28 |
| gnomefreak | win 3 | 06:28 |
| gnomefreak | bug 90175 | 06:28 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 90175 in xorg "vesa driver used instead of radeon for R300" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90175 | 06:28 |
| gnomefreak | i find that summary a bit misleading though | 06:29 |
| tepsipakki | oh that one | 06:30 |
| gnomefreak | iirc vera is used by default on livecd because it gives X to everyone more or less | 06:30 |
| tepsipakki | there is another one where discover lists multiple cards | 06:30 |
| tepsipakki | vesa is used if discover doesn't find anything better | 06:30 |
| gnomefreak | that was the one he gave me when i was trying to explain it to him | 06:30 |
| tepsipakki | we need to glue the postinst anyway, and then throw it all away when feisty+1 opens :) | 06:31 |
| tepsipakki | nope, it takes time | 06:31 |
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| MrStein | tepsipakki: a lot of them. I think one of them is even fixed (or about to be fixed). I think. | 06:33 |
| gnomefreak | tepsipakki: that woukd have to be done after merge. i know feisty X merge was the latest ive ever seen it | 06:35 |
| MrStein | hmm, I reported 24 bugs (not all recently). Not one is fixed ... :-( | 06:35 |
| gnomefreak | i would think after merge atleast | 06:35 |
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| jussi01 | hi motu's, can someone tell me why php4-dev isnt in the repos anymore, and what replaces it, if anything? thanks :) | 06:56 |
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| phanatic | jussi01: php4 support was dropped, i think you should use php5 instead | 06:58 |
| jussi01 | phanatic, thanks | 06:59 |
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| dholbach | can we throw exaile out of the archive? | 07:42 |
| === LaserJock hands dholbach a shovel | ||
| dholbach | LaserJock: shovel? what for? :) | 07:43 |
| dholbach | spe too | 07:44 |
| \sh | dholbach: there is a bug report about ekg (libgadu3 == main), that we should recompile it without openssl ... do I need an Freeze Exception Report for it, or can I just do the upload, because it's not a new feature (libgadu doesn't use ssl at all) | 07:44 |
| dholbach | i'm sure there was a reason for doing it whatever way it is now | 07:45 |
| dholbach | i'd suggest to consult with the people who uploaded it before | 07:45 |
| phanatic | dholbach: why do you want to throw exaile out? | 07:45 |
| dholbach | phanatic: did you take a look at its bugs? | 07:45 |
| dholbach | it's crash-o-rama | 07:46 |
| dholbach | and the bugs are virtually untouched | 07:46 |
| phanatic | dholbach: oops, in that case i have to agree with you | 07:46 |
| soc | I think we need a new channel besides main, restriced, universe, multiverse: buggyverse! | 07:46 |
| bddebian | Fix it! :-) | 07:46 |
| bddebian | soc: hehe | 07:46 |
| \sh | buggyverse? well, we are too less people to fix everything ;) | 07:46 |
| bddebian | Can we add antiquatedverse too ? | 07:46 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: A shovel to bury them with | 07:47 |
| dholbach | tomorrow is Universe HUG DAY | 07:47 |
| soc | but speaking for exaile: it has never chrashed once at me | 07:47 |
| dholbach | let's get some good upstream fixes in | 07:47 |
| soc | but I use the recent version from the autohrs homepgae | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: we need to really work over ajmitch's list | 07:47 |
| === bddebian is sucking wind lately :-( | ||
| dholbach | for example | 07:47 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: The RC bugs? | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: yes | 07:47 |
| soc | is ajmitch's list public? | 07:47 |
| \sh | dholbach: well it's a sync from debian, as I read from launchpad | 07:47 |
| dholbach | there are lots of dups | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | soc: yes | 07:47 |
| soc | where can I see it | 07:48 |
| soc | where are the bugs for exaile, in launchpad or in exaile's trac? | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | soc: http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html | 07:48 |
| crimsun | bah | 07:50 |
| bddebian | Hmm, something tells me that wxwindows2.4 won't be fixed? :-) | 07:50 |
| crimsun | I'm so tired of these alsa bugs that I just went out and bought a new laptop with one of these broken audio codecs just to fix it. | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | what kind of laptop? | 07:50 |
| \sh | crimsun: you are crazy ;) | 07:50 |
| crimsun | HP | 07:50 |
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| jussi01 | crimsun you have too much money | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | heh, as much as he works I seriously doubt it | 07:51 |
| crimsun | jussi01: if by "too much" you mean "very little". Professors don't make tons of money like software engineers do. | 07:51 |
| \sh | oh IT guys don't earn much in .de ;) | 07:52 |
| === jussi01 is a student = 0 money | ||
| LaserJock | crimsun: you're at NC State? | 07:52 |
| crimsun | NC A&T | 07:53 |
| crimsun | an HBCU, the other land-grand institution | 07:53 |
| crimsun | -grant, even | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | ah | 07:53 |
| === tepsipakki has a housing loan and a wife = 0 money | ||
| LaserJock | heh | 07:53 |
| crimsun | stupid Vista asking me all sorts of questions | 07:54 |
| === LaserJock has house loan, is a student, and a wife that's not working yet | ||
| LaserJock | = - money | 07:54 |
| bddebian | pfft | 07:54 |
| === jussi01 is a student and has a wife = - money | ||
| \sh | crimsun: throw it away ;) | 07:54 |
| jussi01 | hehe LaserJock beat me to it | 07:54 |
| === crimsun has two wives and no money | ||
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| jussi01 | lol | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | that's it | 07:55 |
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| bddebian | house + 2 cars + 3 kids + wife ++ == -$ | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | we're all broke! | 07:55 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Two wives? | 07:55 |
| === \sh has one ex, and a GF...and is travelling from cologne to karlsruhe every week...lives in a hotel during the week == ----money... | ||
| bddebian | eeks | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: I have 2 also if you count Ubuntu ;-) | 07:55 |
| crimsun | bddebian: IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad and HP Pavilion | 07:55 |
| \sh | and works as sysadmin...the world is really hard | 07:55 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: :_) | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | \sh: but you're doing better | 07:56 |
| \sh | yepp..better then last year ;) | 07:56 |
| bddebian | crimsun: D00d, laptops are no where NEAR as expensive as wives! ;-) | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | I remember when we had the "Save \sh" drive | 07:56 |
| crimsun | bddebian: uh, tell that to git-core, mercurial, patch, interdiff, wget, mutt, and scp | 07:56 |
| \sh | LaserJock: I still lack from this time | 07:56 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: :-) | 07:57 |
| dholbach | lighttpd installation problems too | 07:57 |
| bddebian | crimsun: pfftt. Oh hey, speaking of git-core. If you're playing with that, please fix it for GNU/Hurd too will ya? ;-P | 07:57 |
| jussi01 | crimsun, laptops take your time, and a little money... wives take your time and all of your money..:D | 07:57 |
| bddebian | heh | 07:57 |
| crimsun | jussi01: no, you don't understand. My time _is_ my money. You'll begin to understand when you see how many resources I pour into Ubuntu. | 07:58 |
| bddebian | Is ajmitch's list static or updated? | 07:58 |
| vil | imbrandon, ping | 07:59 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: updated | 08:01 |
| bddebian | Hmm, strange | 08:01 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: exactly | 08:01 |
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| \sh | I hate umts | 08:06 |
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| dholbach | jack-audio-connection-kit too | 08:09 |
| \sh | where do I find this script for changing the maintainer field ? | 08:14 |
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| vil | dholbach, can I do anything to get eclipse uploaded? | 08:18 |
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| dholbach | vil: I gave my ok - one other member will have to ACK the request | 08:18 |
| vil | I mean some lobbying ;) | 08:18 |
| dholbach | anything that convinces them and is worth pointing out... :) | 08:19 |
| crimsun | vil: bug # ? | 08:23 |
| ajmitch | morning | 08:23 |
| crimsun | dholbach: what's the situation with j-a-c-k? | 08:23 |
| dholbach | crimsun: I just saw a bunch of crashers there | 08:23 |
| crimsun | ah | 08:24 |
| crimsun | probably similar in number to audacity | 08:24 |
| crimsun | oh blah, this thing has broadcom wifi :/ | 08:25 |
| vil | crimsun, bug #93145: | 08:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 93145 in eclipse "[UVFe] update Eclipse to upstream 3.2.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93145 | 08:25 |
| crimsun | vil: confirmed | 08:26 |
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| ajmitch | bddebian: why are you surprised that the list is updated? because there are so many bugs remaining? | 08:28 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: No, I just thought I had done apcalc :-( | 08:29 |
| vil | crimsun, cool, thx | 08:29 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: it only works on source versions in the archive | 08:29 |
| ajmitch | apcalc doesn't appear to have been touched | 08:30 |
| bddebian | I know it's weird. Maybe my old age is just getting to me :'-( | 08:33 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: And mailcrypt looks suspicious | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | there are some funny ones on the list | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | due to the version stuff used in debian | 08:36 |
| ajmitch | note the case (cvs vs CVS) | 08:36 |
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| bddebian | Gah, frick, I missed that :-) | 08:36 |
| ajmitch | ignore ones like cacti | 08:37 |
| ajmitch | where the bug was reported in one package & fixed in another | 08:37 |
| ajmitch | look over all the rest, request UVF exceptions where needed :) | 08:37 |
| bddebian | I'll try. I'm freakin' swamped at work atm :'-( | 08:40 |
| ajmitch | heh | 08:40 |
| bddebian | Freakin' writing .NET crap | 08:40 |
| ajmitch | so am I :) | 08:40 |
| ajmitch | writing php crap | 08:40 |
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| pirast | dholbach, hi, running a bot? ;-) | 09:30 |
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| dholbach | not really :-) | 09:30 |
| dholbach | pirast: but soon I'll be through the old apport bugs | 09:30 |
| dholbach | and from that time on, I'm sure we'll better cope with those bugs coming in | 09:30 |
| dholbach | and I'm sure we'll fix a bunch of them in tomorrow's Universe HUG DAY | 09:31 |
| pirast | uh oh :) | 09:31 |
| pirast | lets see :) | 09:32 |
| ajmitch | hm | 09:35 |
| ajmitch | seems that people really aren't reading the note at the top of MOTU/Packages/Candidates | 09:35 |
| === bddebian is SO surprised | ||
| LaserJock | that's why I wanted to get through the current list | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | and delete everything | 09:35 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: get bddebian onto it! | 09:36 |
| === LaserJock gets out his whip | ||
| DktrKranz | shouldn't be a better choice to make a subpage of such a big list? so that note will be marked properly | 09:37 |
| bddebian | :'-( | 09:37 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 09:37 |
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| DktrKranz | wipe it could be a little confusing | 09:37 |
| LaserJock | well, it should be wiped when we're done | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | and we should just have a link to LP | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | and instructions for what to add | 09:38 |
| DktrKranz | anyway, users usually posted in that list their requests, so they have do rehab to a new design | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | right | 09:41 |
| DktrKranz | so, i think you have to look at both sides :( | 09:42 |
| DktrKranz | wasn't REVU process revisited too? | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | we're working on it | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | I don't think REVU will really go away for a while | 09:43 |
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| DktrKranz | i read something about using bzr | 09:45 |
| dholbach | have a nice evening - see you tomorrow | 09:45 |
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| DktrKranz | see you daniel | 09:45 |
| LaserJock | cya dholbach | 09:45 |
| dholbach | see you! :-) | 09:45 |
| LaserJock | DktrKranz: yes, that's right | 09:45 |
| LaserJock | DktrKranz: dholbach came up with a crazy cool scheme to use LP | 09:45 |
| DktrKranz | so, suppose I want to package a new software | 09:46 |
| DktrKranz | should I use repos or push it into REVU? | 09:46 |
| dholbach | DktrKranz: I'm sure everybody in here can help you with that - if you have any more questions - I'll be around tomorrow again | 09:46 |
| dholbach | so just prod me if you need anything | 09:46 |
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| DktrKranz | sure :) | 09:46 |
| dholbach | rock on | 09:46 |
| DktrKranz | thanks | 09:46 |
| LaserJock | DktrKranz: well, you could either use LP or REVU | 09:47 |
| LaserJock | DktrKranz: right now it's up to the contributor | 09:47 |
| DktrKranz | ok | 09:47 |
| LaserJock | we haven't really finalized how we want to use LP | 09:47 |
| LaserJock | it's not exactly trivial | 09:47 |
| DktrKranz | so, I have a brand new software already in a brz repo | 09:47 |
| DktrKranz | i pushed it into REVU a couple of week ago | 09:48 |
| DktrKranz | should I consider to add a branch too? | 09:48 |
| LaserJock | hmm, well you don't need to | 09:48 |
| LaserJock | but if you want to play around with it fine | 09:48 |
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| DktrKranz | mh, maybe next release | 09:49 |
| DktrKranz | i think it would be redundant | 09:49 |
| DktrKranz | anyway, REVU is very easy to play with | 09:50 |
| DktrKranz | so I think you will have an hard fight to migrate to a bzr solution | 09:51 |
| LaserJock | DktrKranz: yeah, but it has it's weak points too | 09:54 |
| DktrKranz | of course | 09:55 |
| DktrKranz | we'll stay tuned to hear some cool announcements about it :) | 09:56 |
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| Fujitsu | Morning everyone. | 09:57 |
| bddebian | Heya Fujitsu | 09:59 |
| Fujitsu | Hi bddebia. | 10:00 |
| Fujitsu | *bddebian | 10:00 |
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| bddebian | Later gang | 10:13 |
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| keescook | pirast: let me know if you are able to create a reproducer with "sipsak"... | 10:25 |
| pirast | keescook, i'll try but i am no expert | 10:26 |
| pirast | as you might have seen | 10:26 |
| keescook | dang. neither am I. :) | 10:26 |
| pirast | lol, i am such a fool | 10:26 |
| keescook | pirast: wait, why? | 10:26 |
| pirast | keescook, because of "finding" the fixing patch | 10:27 |
| pirast | which is the old one | 10:27 |
| keescook | hehe | 10:27 |
| pirast | hehe :P | 10:27 |
| keescook | I did the same thing initially; I'd been looking all morning for the right one. geh. I wish the asterisk folks would play nicer for security updates. :) | 10:27 |
| TheMuso | Hey MOTUs. | 10:28 |
| keescook | hiya TheMuso | 10:28 |
| pirast | keescook, look at http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=9203 :P ( it really worked for phpmyadmin, they publish diffs now, even against older versions ) | 10:28 |
| pirast | that's why i want to try to keep the feisty version safe from now on | 10:29 |
| pirast | but i have some problems with the cdbs patchsys currently | 10:29 |
| keescook | pirast: ah! very nice. good bug. :) | 10:29 |
| ajmitch | hey keescook | 10:30 |
| pirast | lol. kees. | 10:30 |
| keescook | hiya ajmitch! | 10:30 |
| pirast | have a look at the latest comment there: "there were no *security* fixes in 1.2.17" | 10:30 |
| keescook | pirast: "there were no *security* fixes in 1.2.17. Please try to abstain from reopening closed bugs -> if you have additional questions or comments, it is always better t o communicate realtime with a bug-marshall on #asterisk-bugs channel (freenode)" | 10:30 |
| pirast | hahahahaha | 10:30 |
| keescook | yeah! | 10:30 |
| pirast | lol | 10:30 |
| pirast | OMFG | 10:30 |
| keescook | so, ignore that dude's comments from now on. :P | 10:30 |
| crimsun | what? there are no bugs, only features. | 10:31 |
| ajmitch | that looks pleasant | 10:31 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: of course. and ponies | 10:31 |
| LaserJock | lots and lots of ponies | 10:31 |
| crimsun | this laptop had better be playing pony music by tonight. | 10:32 |
| pirast | keescook, lol now i dont understand anything.. why does the announcment say "this release incorporates a fix for the SIP DoS vulnerability recently discovered by INRIA Lorraine" | 10:32 |
| pirast | and the guy say "there we no security fixes"? | 10:32 |
| keescook | pirast: perhaps point out to them that a remote DoS is considered "security" by many people. :) | 10:32 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: how is the new laptop? ready to be thrown out the window? | 10:32 |
| pirast | keescook, hehehe, he is shirty enough i think | 10:32 |
| pirast | keescook, but hey, i cant loose any karma :P | 10:32 |
| crimsun | ajmitch: it's craptastic. Has lost clusters already, which caused 20070322.2 alt's ntfsresize to bail. Fixed those, installing now. | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: how disturbing | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | it probably shipped with a half-broken FS from the factory | 10:33 |
| keescook | pirast: heh | 10:33 |
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| pirast | keescook, <Mercestes> pirast: shh... we dont' talk about security issues. lol :) | 10:36 |
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| keescook | pirast: heh. from #asterisk? | 10:36 |
| pirast | keescook, yeah :D | 10:36 |
| keescook | Funny, I asked for the commit earlier in the channel. no one answered, of course. :) | 10:37 |
| pirast | <Mercestes> yes, it's fixed. K, thanks, bye. | 10:37 |
| pirast | Shhhh. | 10:37 |
| keescook | hehe | 10:37 |
| ajmitch | isn't it comforting to know that lots of people rely on asterisk? | 10:37 |
| Burgwork | ajmitch: ugh, indeed | 10:39 |
| pirast | ajmitch, keescook, if they would enable distributors to have good secure packages, they would not sell there businnes edition, i guess | 10:39 |
| lionel | ajmitch: it is conforting in the fact that my asterisk box is not opened on the world | 10:39 |
| keescook | pirast: owch! | 10:39 |
| Burgwork | just when I was about to fill out a MIR for asterisk as well | 10:40 |
| Burgwork | ... | 10:40 |
| lionel | most IPBX "business edition" baed on asterisk doest not follow security update... | 10:40 |
| Burgwork | indeed | 10:40 |
| Burgwork | my phone system being owned freaks me out just a smidge | 10:41 |
| pirast | lol | 10:41 |
| pirast | i am off now, night | 10:41 |
| ajmitch | heh | 10:41 |
| lionel | night pirast ! | 10:41 |
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| ajmitch | *excitement* | 10:41 |
| lionel | :) | 10:42 |
| ajmitch | see you later :) | 10:42 |
| lionel | good day ! | 10:42 |
| crimsun | Burgwork: why? It's not like people actually talk on phones. | 10:42 |
| Burgwork | crimsun: because my boss would raise my already near astronomic stress levels by harping on me to fix it | 10:42 |
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| tonyyarusso | Burgwork: Have your brother fly _really_ close to your boss' window a few times - that'll keep him distracted | 10:47 |
| Burgwork | heh | 10:48 |
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| DktrKranz | any main sponsor here? | 11:04 |
| crimsun | sure, but keep in mind that main is frozen for Beta. | 11:09 |
| DktrKranz | yeah | 11:09 |
| DktrKranz | anyway, i would like to receive your feedback about a merge request | 11:10 |
| DktrKranz | from bug #94916 | 11:10 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 94916 in multipath-tools "Please merge multipath-tools 0.4.7-2 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94916 | 11:10 |
| DktrKranz | this is one of my firstr try with main, so i would like to hear some suggestions from some core-dev | 11:11 |
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| crimsun | DktrKranz: the maintainer script changes are missing | 11:14 |
| crimsun | DktrKranz: also, where is the Ubuntu-specific udev rule/change? | 11:15 |
| DktrKranz | merged in debian version | 11:16 |
| crimsun | then note it as such in the changelog | 11:16 |
| DktrKranz | should i mention it in debian/changelog or somewhere in bug description? | 11:17 |
| crimsun | in the latest Ubuntu changelog entry | 11:17 |
| DktrKranz | ok | 11:17 |
| DktrKranz | i'm going to do it | 11:17 |
| DktrKranz | any other suggestions? | 11:18 |
| crimsun | I can more thoroughly review it after work | 11:18 |
| DktrKranz | thanks :) | 11:19 |
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