[12:39] <saispo> bersace: ping ?
[12:39] <bersace> saispo: pong
[12:40] <saispo> :)
[12:40] <saispo> i try your solution, but don't find pipe :/
[12:41] <bersace> ISO_Level3_Shift + Maj + L
[12:41] <saispo> i use enter key in the num pad for 3rd group, but the conbinaison for pipe is ?
[12:41] <saispo> w00t
[12:41] <bersace> see gnome-keyboard-properties to examine keymap
[12:41] <bersace> my symbols map is as close as possible to Mac OS X one except the bugs
[12:41] <saispo> bersace: is more difficult than emacs :)
[12:42] <bersace> in Mac OS X, caps then  give , not 
[12:42] <bersace> saispo: lol
[12:42] <saispo> bersace: will find another key fir 3rd group :)
[12:42] <bersace> that's not easy
[12:43] <saispo> apple on the right is not needed ?
[12:44] <saispo> a virtual keyboard which present all touch is not present in gnome ?
[12:52] <crimsun> argh, wtf. Upstream just reverted a patch that I made that reverted a patch that upstream made. So we get to reinstate what was correct all along.
[12:56] <TheMuso> crimsun: What package?
[01:00] <crimsun> take a wild guess :-)
[01:00] <geser> alsa
[01:00] <crimsun> hda_intel.c
[01:03] <TheMuso> oh ok
[02:08] <sistpoty> gn8 everyone
[02:21] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:22] <RAOF> Heya bddebian 
[02:22] <bddebian> Hi RAOF
[02:22] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian, RAOF 
[02:22] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[02:22] <RAOF> Hey Hobbsee 
[02:23] <racarr> That was an absurdely large amount of greetings for 3 people
[02:24] <RAOF> I was hoping to get into a cycle of infinite greetings.
[02:24] <bddebian> heh
[02:25] <racarr> RAOF: That seems possible if you had a greeting chain so long that people left and came back during it
[02:25] <racarr> :p
[02:27] <RAOF> racarr: Or, maybe, you could have a cyclic greeting graph that spanned channels!
[02:28] <racarr> RAOF: It's only socially proper if it's Hamiltonian!
[02:32] <bddebian> HI AJMITCH!!
[02:32] <ajmitch> I could come up with some nasty reply to anyone who greets me
[02:32] <ajmitch> but that would violate the CoC
[02:34] <Hobbsee> heh
[02:42] <crimsun> well, that's more overt than imply breaking their audio :-)
[02:42] <crimsun> simply, even
[02:44] <ajmitch> hehe
[02:47] <bddebian> HI CRIMSUN
[02:47] <ajmitch> bddebian: your caps lock appears to be stuck
[02:47] <bddebian> nah
[02:47] <ajmitch> please go & take a hammer to your keyboard to fix it
[02:48] <crimsun> bddebian: HI 1/3 DEITY!
[02:48] <bddebian> not hardly :-(
[02:48] <crimsun> your wiki page belies you
[02:52] <bddebian> My wiki page?
[02:54] <crimsun> BdDebianIsAGod
[02:54] <crimsun> spelled correctly, of course
[02:56] <LaserJock> hi guys
[02:57] <LaserJock> HI BDDEBIAN
[02:57] <TheMuso> Does GTK, and more specifically glade, allow you to create combo boxes that also allow text entry? If so, what is the widget class name?
[02:58] <TheMuso> Referring to https://launchpad.net/bugs/59386
[02:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59386 in gnome-ppp "using /dev/ttyUSB0 in gnome-ppp" [Medium,Confirmed]  
[02:58] <LaserJock> what do you mean by text entry?
[02:58] <shawarma> Probably a GtkTextEntry. :-)
[02:58] <LaserJock> shawarma: ha ha, very helpful
[02:58] <TheMuso> LaserJock: I have seen combbo boxes that also allow you to enter text by hand. So you can either choose from a dropdown list, or enter something by typing ti in.
[02:59] <TheMuso> s/ti/it/
[02:59] <TheMuso> I thought that doing that for the above bug would be a quick fix at least.
[02:59] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[03:00] <LaserJock> TheMuso: interesting
[03:00] <shawarma> LaserJock: Hmm.. I'm mistaken. I was thinking of a GtkEntry.
[03:00] <TheMuso> Can't remember where I saw that though.
[03:01] <TheMuso> But since I don't delve into GUI specifics much, I could be totally wrong.
[03:21] <zul> hey
[03:23] <LaserJock> hi zul 
[03:23] <zul> hery LaserJock 
[05:14] (joejaxx/#ubuntu-motu) ajmitch: that is good to hear :)
[05:14] (jdong/#ubuntu-motu) hmm neither .6 or .8 work
[05:14] (jdong/#ubuntu-motu) that means I should sleep :)
[05:15] <jdong> hmm
[05:15] <jdong> ok, I'll blame my network and call it a night
[05:16] <jdong> Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com|91.189.89.8|:80... 
[05:17] <joejaxx> jdong: i had that problem yesterday
[05:17] <jdong> oh look at that....
[05:18] <jdong> silly firestarter, assuming static ip's is for kids.
[05:18] <joejaxx> :P
[05:19] <crimsun> argh, this macbook saga just doesn't stop
[05:19] <jdong> is libnotify working for you guys?
[05:19] <jdong> somehow after this week's updating, libnotify popups no longer show for me.
[05:20] <crimsun> I hate notification bubbles anyhow.
[05:20] <jdong> notify-send foo bar; nothing happens....
[05:20] <jdong> crimsun: lol :)
[05:20] <joejaxx> crimsun: macbook saga?
[05:20] <joejaxx> lol
[05:20] <crimsun> fix one revision, breaks three others
[05:20] <joejaxx> :\
[05:20] <jdong> wow.
[07:03] <joejaxx> LaserJock: hello
[07:03] <LaserJock> hi joejaxx 
[07:04] <joejaxx> how are you?
[07:04] <LaserJock> oh, pretty good
[07:05] <LaserJock> you?
[07:05] <joejaxx> that is good
[07:05] <joejaxx> i am ok
[07:05] <joejaxx> i am waiting for the new d-i and udebs to be published
[07:06] <joejaxx> :)
[07:07] <LaserJock> do they have good stuff for you?
[07:07] <joejaxx> who?
[07:07] <LaserJock> the new d-i and udebs
[07:08] <joejaxx> i am hoping it fixes the no cdrom detected problem
[07:10] <joejaxx> when you run the alternative discs
[08:10] <racarr>  If I'm packaging something (new desktop-effects), that's python, and loads a module at runtime
[08:11] <racarr> If beryl is installed (or after it installs Beryl)
[08:11] <racarr> it's ok not to have it as a dependency, right?
[08:11] <racarr> and is there anywhere I should put it in the control file, etc?
[08:11] <racarr> As in, it checks itself if what it needs is installed, because it needs to be in main, but Beryl probably can't
[08:12] <LaserJock> right
[08:12] <LaserJock> you could have it as Suggests: or Recommends:
[08:13] <racarr> Suggests is less authorative right?
[08:13] <racarr> and apt, etc installs recommends now?
[08:14] <Fujitsu> Suggests is probably the best idea.
[08:14] <Fujitsu> As you could very well want desktop-effects without beryl.
[08:16] <racarr> ok well I'll autotoolize package etc all of this in a bit...I hate autotools ><
[08:16] <Ademan> anyone know why jedit isn't packaged? it seems to be gpl and all that, is it just no one's done it yet?
[08:17] <LaserJock> Ademan: it's java isn't it?
[08:17] <Ademan> indeed
[08:18] <LaserJock> that's probably why
[08:18] <Ademan> pain in the ass factor of java packages?
[08:19] <Ademan> their website has a debian repository though, so i'd guess most of the work is already done...
[08:20] <racarr> an editor in java, that must take even longer to start up than emacs
[08:20] <LaserJock> Ademan: well many Java apps only work with Sun's JVM
[08:21] <LaserJock> so they might as well be non-free
[08:21] <LaserJock> racarr: I've heard it's not bad at all
[08:21] <racarr> I've never actually heard about it, I just couldn't resist the opportunity to take a shot at emacs AND java
[08:22] <Ademan> lol
[08:22] <LaserJock> it's a fairly popular editor
[08:22] <Ademan> vim uber alles
[08:22] <Ademan> anyways, isn't sun releasing the jvm under the gpl?
[08:22] <LaserJock> yes, eventually
[08:24] <racarr> JEdit features page: Copy and paste with an unlimited number of clipboards (known as "registers")
[08:24] <racarr> *cough emacs cough*
[08:24] <Ademan> meh, i guess i'll go back to hating autoconf and automake for a while
[08:24] <LaserJock> I find Java apps to be a real shame that way
[08:25] <racarr> Ademan: Me too!
[08:25] <LaserJock> there are several Chemistry apps I'd love to get into Ubuntu
[08:25] <crimsun> hey neat, beryl were source NEWd
[08:25] <LaserJock> they are GPL's
[08:25] <Ademan> wait what?
[08:25] <racarr> crimsun: source NEWd?
[08:25] <LaserJock> made it through the NEW queue
[08:25] <Fujitsu> crimsun: It actually passed!?
[08:25] <Ademan> is that like nekked?
[08:25] <crimsun> oh, that was just beryl-settings
[08:25] <racarr> ah yeah
[08:26] <racarr> everything else is still in new, heh
[08:26] <LaserJock> it actually goes through NEW twice
[08:26] <LaserJock> the first time is for the source package
[08:26] <LaserJock> then it gets build
[08:27] <LaserJock> s/d/t/
[08:27] <LaserJock> and then it goes through binary NEW
[08:29] <racarr> does binary new take as long?
[08:32] <LaserJock> no
[08:32] <racarr> mm, well I hope someone finds the time to  look at them soon so they get some good testing
[09:25] <cbx33> beta out today?
[09:27] <wereHamster|zZz> morning \sh :)
[09:37] <stgraber> morning
[09:37] <stgraber> cbx33: should be
[09:37] <\sh> moins
[09:38] <tepsipakki> cbx33, stgraber: nope, delayed for tomorrow
[09:38] <stgraber> ok :(
[10:06] <ajmitch> evening
[10:06] <RAOF> Eventide
[10:06] <\sh> hey ajmitch
[10:06] <ajmitch> RAOF: now which part of .au are you in again?
[10:06] <RAOF> Sydney.
[10:06] <ajmitch> aha
[10:06] <ajmitch> so we're only 1 hour ahead for a change
[10:07] <ajmitch> hey \sh 
[10:07] <RAOF> Aaah.
[10:07] <jussi01> hi ajmitch, RAOF 
[10:07] <ajmitch> jussi01: I can understand you running :)
[10:07] <jussi01> lol
[10:07] <RAOF> ...you just should have run to Hobart.
[10:07] <ajmitch> hah
[10:09] <RAOF> Hobart is awesome, and doesn't languish at 100% humidity for a week like Sydney :/
[10:11] <TheMuso> RAOF: Where in Sydney?
[10:11] <TheMuso> Yey! Another Sydneysider.
[10:11] <RAOF> Rose bay, actually.
[10:11] <ajmitch> too many sydney types around here
[10:11] <jussi01> hehe
[10:11] <RAOF> TheMuso: You?
[10:12] <jussi01> I was born in perth... but grew up in geelong...
[10:12] <TheMuso> RAOF: Croydon.
[10:12] <RAOF> Cool, although I don't actually know Sydney very well :-/
[10:13] <TheMuso> Right.
[10:13] <RAOF> I don't suppose anyone wants to review gnome-compiz-manager while I eat some dinner?
[10:13] <RAOF> Also, I don't suppose it's likely to get in now, even though there's a package sitting in NEW still.
[10:14] <RAOF> Mmm, tuna toasties!
[10:24] <racarr> Does anyone have time to look at my new desktop-effects?
[10:24] <racarr> the packaging I mean, I had to redo it
[10:27] <racarr> actually I should probably add a timer like the original one has incase beryl/compiz fails to start
[10:35] <dholbach> good morning
[10:36] <\sh> moins dholbach
[10:38] <ajmitch> hey daniel
[10:42] <dholbach> hey \sh, hey andrew
[10:52] <pochu> heya
[10:53] <gpocentek> morning
[10:54] <viviersf> sigh 
[10:55] <ajmitch> hey viviersf 
[10:55] <viviersf> hey, howz you
[10:55] <ajmitch> good, you
[10:55] <ajmitch> ?
[10:56] <viviersf> nah im good thx 
[10:56] <viviersf> just hate it when i dont know how to do something
[10:56] <ajmitch> hehe
[12:14] <dholbach> does anybody of us look into exaile?
[12:14] <dholbach> it's CRASH-O-RAMA
[12:14] <dholbach> we get zillions of duplicates
[12:14] <dholbach> would be nice to get a new upstream version or debian fixes for it
[12:15] <Fujitsu> I've seen a whole lot of bugs about it, yeah...
[12:15] <shawarma> dholbach: I suppose I could take a look. i've hacked on it before.
[12:15] <StevenK> shawarma: Ahh, so it's your fault!
[12:15] <shawarma> I also remember it started crashing om me when we moved to python 2.5
[12:16] <dholbach> just run     bugnumbers -p exaile     to get a first impression :-)
[12:16] <Fujitsu> It has a whopping 1/200 of the universe bugs... :(
[12:17] <dholbach> i didn't know it was that popular
[12:17] <shawarma> Fujitsu: How can you tell?
[12:17] <shawarma> dholbach: bugnumbers? which package is that in?
[12:17] <dholbach> bughelper
[12:17] <Fujitsu> I can see it has 26 bugs, and we have 5041 universe bugs.
[12:17] <Fujitsu> s/uni/{un,mult}i/
[12:17] <shawarma> Only 5041? Wow.
[12:17] <Fujitsu> That's about a fifth of the Ubuntu total, which isn't too bad.
[12:19] <shawarma> I think it's interesting that a python application manages to trigger that many segmentation faults..
[12:19] <Fujitsu> Gr.
[12:19] <Fujitsu> Is anybody else noticing beta returning a lot of empty responses?
[12:20] <shawarma> lp beta?
[12:20] <shawarma> No.
[12:20] <Fujitsu> Darn.
[12:20] <Fujitsu> It's particularly frequent tonight.
[12:22] <dholbach> deluge-torrent has some python crasher bugs too
[12:23] <shawarma> Are any of you experiencing it?
[12:24] <shawarma> The exaile crashes. Not lp weirdness.
[12:25] <dholbach> python crashers should be fine to just forward upstream
[12:26] <shawarma> dholbach: I'm just thinking it might be .pyc files from the 2.4 days that might be messing things up..
[12:26] <StevenK> dholbach: -uvf has been resubscribed to #90749 asking for getting 0.5 into Feisty
[12:26] <dholbach> StevenK: alright - looking into it
[12:26] <dholbach> bug 90749
[12:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90749 in deluge-torrent "Deluge 0.5 in feisty" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90749
[12:29] <shawarma> A "forward to upstream bug tracker" button in Launchpad would rock *so* hard.
[12:29] <StevenK> dholbach: I'm happy to merge deluge 0.5 if the UVF gets approved.
[12:31] <StevenK> dholbach: You just said 'thanks for the report' on bug 94580, but Package: deluge-torrent 0.5.0
[12:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 94580 in deluge-torrent "[apport]  deluge crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94580
[12:33] <dholbach> StevenK: and marked it as medium
[12:33] <dholbach> and assigned to motu
[12:33] <StevenK> dholbach: Same thing with bug 94572
[12:33] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 94572 in deluge-torrent "[apport]  deluge crashed with DuplicateTorrentError in sync()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94572
[12:33] <dholbach> so it doesn't show up on the unconfirmed/undecided list
[12:33] <dholbach> and the backtrace is clear
[12:33] <dholbach> you can forward it to upstream just like that
[12:34] <Fujitsu> Is it really a great idea to assign to MOTU? That takes it off the unassigned list...
[12:34] <StevenK> But most of the deluge bugs look to be against versions that we don't have in the archive.
[12:34] <Fujitsu> And the MOTU bug list is unlikely to ever get looked at.
[12:34] <dholbach> it'd be nice if you pointed that out on the bug reports
[12:35] <StevenK> I can, but I'm pointing it out to you since you commented on them both roughly 10 minutes ago.
[12:35] <dholbach> StevenK: i'm going through 600 apport bugs atm
[12:35] <StevenK> Neat
[12:35] <dholbach> I don't intend to follow up on all of them
[12:35] <StevenK> Hrm.
[12:36] <dholbach> but I want to get clean retraces for all of them (where appropriate) - after a while retracing doesn't make sense any more
[12:36] <dholbach> it'd be a shame if people uploaded crash reports and they'd rot in LP
[12:37] <dholbach> StevenK: so I'd appreciate it if you'd leave a comment on those bugs
[12:37] <StevenK> I'm going to reject both of them, given the version.
[12:37] <dholbach> thanks a lot
[12:38] <Lutin> hey there
[12:38] <dholbach> hey Lutin
[12:38] <Lutin> hi dholbach 
[12:40] <Lutin> dholbach: you assigned bug #94580 to MOTU bug it's reported against deluge 0.5.0, which doesnt seem to be in ubuntu ... am I missing something ?
[12:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 94580 in deluge-torrent "[apport]  deluge crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94580
[12:40] <StevenK> Lutin: I'm about to reject
[12:40] <dholbach> Lutin: sorry, the version number didn't occur to me to be wrong
[12:40] <Lutin> ok
[12:41] <dholbach> Lutin: I just said before: I'm doing the initial triage of crasher bugs (asking for retrace, assign to the right people, set importance)
[12:41] <dholbach> I'd really appreciate help with that
[12:41] <dholbach> I linked the motu crasher bugs on MOTU/TODO
[12:41] <Lutin> dholbach: ok 
[12:41] <dholbach> so hopefully people will help out with those bugs tomorrow on Universe HUG DAY
[12:42] <dholbach> it'd be great to get some of those crashers resolved for release - maybe we can just grab a debian version or a new upstream version which fixes it
[01:26] <racarr> does anyone have time to look at the packaging at: http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/rc/
[01:26] <racarr> it's for the desktop-effects rewrite
[01:38] <geser> racarr: looking at it
[01:38] <Fujitsu> desktop-effects is main...
[01:38] <racarr> geser: I uploaded it to REVU incidentally
[01:38] <geser> the version should be 1.0-0ubuntu1
[01:38] <racarr> Fujitsu: Yes but I still need people to look over it
[01:38] <Fujitsu> racarr: Good point.
[01:39] <racarr> geser: Ok, I wasn't sure about that but should have looked it up
[01:39] <racarr> Fujitsu: As the above indicates, I definitely need people to look over it :p
[01:40] <racarr> geser: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4723 uploaded a fix for the ubuntu1 should show up soon
[01:40] <geser> W: desktop-effects; Executable /usr/share/desktop-effects/desktop-effects.glade with perms 0755 is not an ELF file or script.
[01:41] <geser> W: desktop-effects: binary-without-manpage desktop-effects
[01:41] <geser> E: desktop-effects: python-script-but-no-python-dep ./usr/bin/desktop-effects
[01:41] <geser> E: desktop-effects: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl
[01:41] <racarr> geser: mm I thought python-gconf depended on python
[01:42] <racarr> and python-gtk2
[01:42] <Fujitsu> I smell Python Policy non-compliance.
[01:42] <geser> apparently lintian doesn't check recurively
[01:43] <fernando> moin all
[01:43] <\sh> Can I remove wine from Ubuntu? ,-)
[01:43] <Fujitsu> \sh: Still giving you issues?
[01:43] <\sh> Fujitsu: well, this issue from yesterday, we'll investigate...
[01:44] <\sh> Fujitsu: but I can't test crashes like playing far cry or something like this, I don't have those programs and no hardware
[01:44] <geser> racarr: do you know http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ already?
[01:44] <racarr> geser: Parts
[01:44] <StevenK> racarr: The .glade shouldn't be 0755, too
[01:44] <StevenK> Like Linda siad
[01:44] <StevenK> Er, said
[01:46] <\sh> dholbach: do we have hardcore 3d ego shooter player in the bugsquad team?
[01:46] <dholbach> \sh: no idea
[01:47] <\sh> well, farcry is not on the list of apps in wine...somehow, and I can't test it because of no hw and sw...and no far cry license ... so what do I do? reject it?
[01:48] <StevenK> geser: Do you want to update bug 94263 with a proper sync request, or shall I?
[01:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 94263 in ez-ipupdate "Please merge ez-ipupdate 3.0.11b8-12 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94263
[01:48] <jwendell> can any sponsor take a look at my packages? https://launchpad.net/~wendell/+assignedbugs?search=Search&field.status=In+Progress
[01:49] <geser> StevenK: I wanted to do it later but if you have time now you can do it.
[01:49] <StevenK> geser: Aye, doing so.
[01:49] <StevenK> jwendell: I'll look at one in a sec
[01:49] <racarr> okuploaded a few of the fixes...
[01:50] <geser> racarr: you're missing a 's' in Suggests in your control file
[01:53] <StevenK> geser: Do it later, it gives Debian time to get -13 onto the mirrors
[01:55] <racarr> I'll get that uploaded in just a second, doing a patch now to use adept/kde if available
[01:57] <jekil> hello
[01:57] <Hobbsee> hiya
[02:03] <racarr> geser: Uploaded a new version with a patch (and hence a removed dependency) and the suggests fix, permissions, etc
[02:08] <StevenK> jwendell: I've munged bug 73983 to be a sync
[02:08] <Ubugtu> Bug 73983 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/73983 is private
[02:09] <StevenK> Um, bug 73893
[02:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 73893 in cryptmount "Empty examples directory" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/73893
[02:09] <StevenK> Thanks for showing I'm an idiot, Ubugtu.
[02:09] <pochu> geser: do u know if bug 93540 is going to be approved? :)
[02:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 93540 in liferea "UVF exception: liferea 1.2.8" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93540
[02:10] <jwendell> StevenK, but it's too late for merges, not?
[02:11] <jwendell> StevenK, i've updated maintainer fields with that debdiff too
[02:11] <StevenK> jwendell: It shouldn't be.
[02:12] <StevenK> jwendell: And? The updated maintainer field is only required if the version is -XubuntuY. Which a sync from Debian won't be.
[02:12] <jwendell> ok
[02:13] <StevenK> jwendell: As a consqeuence, I've unsubscribed ubuntu-universe-sponsors and unassigned the bug.
[02:14] <jwendell> StevenK, ok
[02:14] <StevenK> Oops.
[02:15] <geser> racarr: is revu for you also broken if you want to see the details for your package?
[02:16] <dholbach> man... the firestarter installation/upgrade/purging problems are quite a lot already
[02:16] <dholbach> could somebody look into this and see if it the maintainer scripts are fixed in debian?
[02:16] <racarr> geser: Yes
[02:17] <geser> pochu: liferea is in main and I don't know the details for UVF exceptions there
[02:17] <geser> a revu admin around?
[02:18] <pochu> this should help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess :)
[02:18] <geser> racarr: the last package that I could get from REVU has still W: desktop-effects: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/share/desktop-effects/desktop-effects.glade
[02:18] <geser> E: desktop-effects: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl
[02:19] <racarr> geser: Err...I thought I fixed that just a second
[02:19] <racarr> and what is meant by the second warning?
[02:21] <elkbuntu> im guessing you did it the wrong way?
[02:21] <geser> debian/copyright should point to the full text of the GPL which can be found in  /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL
[02:21] <stgraber> racarr: it means that you should refer to /usr/share/common-licences/ in your copyright file
[02:21] <stgraber> geser: you're too fast for me ...
[02:21] <ivoks> there is a template for copyright file
[02:22] <elkbuntu> the error is quite self-explanatory really
[02:22] <jwendell> StevenK, who will take care of that bug?
[02:22] <ivoks> if program is GPL, then you should just 'link' it on existing GPL on Ubuntu
[02:22] <ivoks> like this;
[02:22] <ivoks> The software is released under GNU GPLv2. For more info
[02:22] <ivoks> see /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL
[02:22] <racarr> elkbuntu: It seems like there are several ways to interpret it :/
[02:23] <ivoks> geser: for example, take a look at /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/copyright
[02:23] <elkbuntu> i only interpret it one way.. how were you interpreting it?
[02:23] <racarr> I wasn't sure how to interpret it, I guessed it was something like that but it wasn't really unambiguous, and I wasn't usre if there was something very specific I had to do
[02:24] <racarr> ok fixed copyright...
[02:25] <racarr> will look at why it still thinks the glade is an executable now (I was sure I fixed that?)
[02:25] <elkbuntu> i would think there'd be a nice big section explaining licencing dos and donts in the debian packaging guide thingie.. but i've not read it myself so i could be wrong
[02:25] <StevenK> elkbuntu: There is
[02:25] <StevenK> elkbuntu: So nyah
[02:26] <elkbuntu> StevenK, so nyah.. i (kinda) knew without even reading it... im just *that* good
[02:26] <StevenK> elkbuntu: Uh huh. :-)
[02:26] <geser> racarr: if you lintian -i on the generated deb you get an explanation to each E: and W:
[02:26] <StevenK> Because it's rude to disagree...
[02:26] <elkbuntu> StevenK, ha!
[02:26] <racarr> Oops!
[02:26] <StevenK> elkbuntu: :-)
[02:26] <racarr> I did 655 instead of 644 -_-
[02:27] <racarr> geser: Ok
[02:27] <StevenK> racarr: Ha! That'd do it
[02:27] <racarr> StevenK: 4 for read...plus 0 for write and execute...equals 5!
[02:28] <racarr> ok uploaded fixes
[02:28] <StevenK> racarr: Your math needs a little work. :-)
[02:29] <racarr> it was more likely my typing, but whatever
[02:30] <StevenK> Blame your fingers, sure.
[02:32] <racarr> geser: Uploaded fixes for all of those.....
[02:36] <geser> racarr: have to wait for someone who can fix revu
[02:36] <racarr> ok I can throw them on my fdo apge in the meantime
[02:38] <racarr> geser: http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/rc/
[02:38] <racarr> err, I left the old ubuntu4 ones up there as well, but just ignore them , heh
[02:49] <geser> racarr: DEB_INSTALL_DOCS_beryl-settings-bindings := README NEWS in debian/rules
[02:50] <racarr> I've been told several times over the past few days
[02:50] <racarr> that cdbs takes care of that now
[02:50] <racarr> and it's useless
[02:50] <racarr> and I ended up removing it from all the beryl packages
[02:50] <racarr> are you sure?
[02:50] <geser> you have it in your debian/rules for d-e
[02:50] <geser> so either remove it or fix the package name in it
[02:51] <geser> and the install/beryl-{k,}ubuntu:: targets are useless there too
[02:55] <geser> and linda/lintian still report W: desktop-effects; Executable /usr/share/desktop-effects/desktop-effects.glade with perms 0755 is not an ELF file or script.
[02:58] <racarr> I don't get that anymore...
[03:10] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:10] <geser> Hi bddebian
[03:11] <bddebian> Hi geser
[03:50] <bigon> hi, is revu broken?
[03:51] <geser> seems so
[04:11] <Toadstool> g'morning!
[04:11] <bddebian> Heya Toadstool
[04:11] <Toadstool> hi bddebian 
[04:31] <slomo> siretart: are you sure you run seahorse 0.9.7? i know of this bug only since seahorse 0.9.10 or something and it's "fixed" in experimental by a conflict now
[04:32] <siretart> slomo: that's not an option here: we are running a sunray server, with some users running kde and some gnome
[04:32] <siretart> slomo: please remove the conflicts, I'd have to recompile the seahorse package to remove the conflict
[04:37] <slomo> siretart: it<#
[04:37] <slomo> siretart: it's an upstream conflict... they check in configure if gpg2 is installed and if it is abort :/
[04:37] <slomo> no idea how this can be fixed correctly
[04:37] <siretart> slomo: don't start either gnupg-agent nor seahorse via Xsession
[04:37] <siretart> slomo: and make them only warn and not panic if the see each other
[04:37] <siretart> slomo: seahorse should imho better be started via gnome-session than Xsession.d
[04:37] <slomo> siretart: i'll talk with seahorse upstream later
[05:53] <bersace> siretart: seems my patch has broken revu
[05:53] <bersace> you should replace in scripts/Comments.py:170 (currentlevel == 'contributor') ? row['isadvocating']  : "" by row['isadvocating']  
[05:55] <siretart> bersace: please give me a link to demonstrate the bug
[05:56] <bersace> siretart: you have to be a contributor
[05:56] <bersace> or dunno
[05:56] <siretart> oh
[05:56] <bersace> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3184
[05:56] <bersace> go to flood
[05:56] <bersace> if you want me to post you the python error
[05:58] <MrStein> Hi! I wonder, why does Feisty ship with discover v1.x when debian swiched to v2 ages ago (in Sarge) ?
[06:00] <jussi01> Hi motu's, could someone tell me how to enable the universe repo in pbuilder??
[06:02] <mr_pouit> jussi01: iirc, you have to uncomment the line starting with COMPONENTS
[06:02] <Laser_away> MrStein: I think we have v2
[06:02] <mr_pouit> COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" for example
[06:02] <jussi01> mr_pouit, in which file...
[06:03] <mr_pouit> jussi01: /etc/pbuilderrc or ~/.pbuilderrc
[06:03] <MrStein> Laser_away: I _know_ it is v1
[06:03] <Laser_away> MrStein: it's been v2 the whole time in Ubuntu, since warty
[06:03] <MrStein> Laser_away: The Herd 5 desktop i386 CD uses v1.7.19ubuntu1
[06:04] <Laser_away> MrStein: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/discover
[06:04] <Laser_away> MrStein: umm, unless we are talking about different packages that's not the case
[06:04] <jussi01> mr_pouit, thank you very much
[06:04] <mr_pouit> np ;)
[06:06] <MrStein> Laser_away: dpkg-query -S `which discover`    prints : discover1: /sbin/discover
[06:08] <Laser_away> MrStein: did you dist-ugprade or something?
[06:08] <MrStein> Laser_away: nothing
[06:08] <MrStein> boot, that is
[06:10] <Laser_away> MrStein: on my feisty I get "discover: /sbin/discover"
[06:10] <MrStein> I got it from the official site
[06:10] <Laser_away> got what?
[06:10] <MrStein> does "discover display" work or report an error for you ?
[06:11] <MrStein> Laser_away: The CD I am talking about all the time ;-)
[06:11] <Laser_away> MrStein: it gives me a Buss error
[06:11] <Laser_away> *Bus
[06:12] <MrStein> Jezus ....
[06:12] <Laser_away> MrStein: but Ubuntu has never had discover v1 as far as I can tell
[06:12] <Laser_away> so I have no idea how you could have gotten it
[06:12] <gnomefreak> !discover1
[06:12] <ubotu> discover1: hardware identification system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.18ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 212 kB
[06:13] <gnomefreak> its in feisty also "dicover" is in uni  its 2.1.1
[06:14] <MrStein> Laser_away: I got it here : http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5#head-de3d3f8b48e23a9bdc7294cc93da21f483949673
[06:15] <MrStein> to be precise , this is it : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/feisty-desktop-i386.iso
[06:15] <Laser_away> gnomefreak: ahhh
[06:15] <Laser_away> MrStein: ok, now we figured it out
[06:16] <MrStein> great :-9
[06:16] <MrStein> :-)
[06:16] <tepsipakki> our beloved xorg relies on discover1
[06:16] <Laser_away> MrStein: we have both v1 and v2
[06:16] <MrStein> sure ? running xorg on itself actually works better than with the created xorg.conf ;-)
[06:17] <tepsipakki> the configuration
[06:17] <tepsipakki> you can remove it after installation
[06:17] <tepsipakki> discover1, that is
[06:20] <MrStein> can anyone tel me where do I find xserver-xorg.postinst.in from the feisty (on the web preferably ) ?
[06:22] <tepsipakki> that's in the source-package, but the real generated file is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.postinst
[06:23] <MrStein> Hmm, as I see it, the xorg postinst can work with both discover v1 and v2. I doubt on part of xorg package suports v2 and other parts do not. What do you think ?
[06:23] <MrStein> on=one
[06:23] <tepsipakki> we are not going to change that for feisty
[06:23] <tepsipakki> instead the goal is to get rid of it completely for feisty+1
[06:24] <MrStein> OK, I guess 2007 is not the year when I start to use Ubuntu
[06:25] <gnomefreak> feisty+1 == oct
[06:25] <tepsipakki> MrStein: how so?
[06:25] <gnomefreak> or install ubuntu :)
[06:26] <tepsipakki> MrStein: oh you filed a bug recently?
[06:27] <gnomefreak> tepsipakki: he did and you commented on it ;)
[06:28] <tepsipakki> so many bugs, so little time ;)
[06:28] <gnomefreak> win 3
[06:28] <gnomefreak> bug 90175
[06:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90175 in xorg "vesa driver used instead of radeon for R300" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90175
[06:29] <gnomefreak> i find that summary a bit misleading though
[06:30] <tepsipakki> oh that one
[06:30] <gnomefreak> iirc vera is used by default on livecd because it gives X to everyone more or less
[06:30] <tepsipakki> there is another one where discover lists multiple cards
[06:30] <tepsipakki> vesa is used if discover doesn't find anything better
[06:30] <gnomefreak> that was the one he gave me when i was trying to explain it to him
[06:31] <tepsipakki> we need to glue the postinst anyway, and then throw it all away when feisty+1 opens :)
[06:31] <tepsipakki> nope, it takes time
[06:33] <MrStein> tepsipakki: a lot of them. I think one of them is even fixed (or about to be fixed). I think.
[06:35] <gnomefreak> tepsipakki: that woukd have to be done after merge. i know feisty X merge was the latest ive ever seen it
[06:35] <MrStein> hmm, I reported 24 bugs (not all recently). Not one is fixed ... :-(
[06:35] <gnomefreak> i would think after merge atleast
[06:56] <jussi01> hi motu's, can someone tell me why php4-dev isnt in the repos anymore, and what replaces it, if anything? thanks :)
[06:58] <phanatic> jussi01: php4 support was dropped, i think you should use php5 instead
[06:59] <jussi01> phanatic, thanks
[07:42] <dholbach> can we throw exaile out of the archive?
[07:43] <dholbach> LaserJock: shovel? what for? :)
[07:44] <dholbach> spe too
[07:44] <\sh> dholbach: there is a bug report about ekg (libgadu3 == main), that we should recompile it without openssl ... do I need an Freeze Exception Report for it, or can I just do the upload, because it's not a new feature (libgadu doesn't use ssl at all)
[07:45] <dholbach> i'm sure there was a reason for doing it whatever way it is now
[07:45] <dholbach> i'd suggest to consult with the people who uploaded it before
[07:45] <phanatic> dholbach: why do you want to throw exaile out?
[07:45] <dholbach> phanatic: did you take a look at its bugs?
[07:46] <dholbach> it's crash-o-rama
[07:46] <dholbach> and the bugs are virtually untouched
[07:46] <phanatic> dholbach: oops, in that case i have to agree with you
[07:46] <soc> I think we need a new channel besides main, restriced, universe, multiverse: buggyverse!
[07:46] <bddebian> Fix it! :-)
[07:46] <bddebian> soc: hehe
[07:46] <\sh> buggyverse? well, we are too less people to fix everything ;)
[07:46] <bddebian> Can we add antiquatedverse too ?
[07:47] <LaserJock> dholbach: A shovel to bury them with
[07:47] <dholbach> tomorrow is Universe HUG DAY
[07:47] <soc> but speaking for exaile: it has never chrashed once at me
[07:47] <dholbach> let's get some good upstream fixes in
[07:47] <soc> but I use the recent version from the autohrs homepgae
[07:47] <LaserJock> dholbach: we need to really work over ajmitch's list
[07:47] <dholbach> for example
[07:47] <bddebian> LaserJock: The RC bugs?
[07:47] <LaserJock> bddebian: yes
[07:47] <soc> is ajmitch's list public?
[07:47] <\sh> dholbach: well it's a sync from debian, as I read from launchpad
[07:47] <dholbach> there are lots of dups
[07:47] <LaserJock> soc: yes
[07:48] <soc> where can I see it
[07:48] <soc> where are the bugs for exaile, in launchpad or in exaile's trac?
[07:48] <LaserJock> soc: http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html
[07:50] <crimsun> bah
[07:50] <bddebian> Hmm, something tells me that wxwindows2.4 won't be fixed? :-)
[07:50] <crimsun> I'm so tired of these alsa bugs that I just went out and bought a new laptop with one of these broken audio codecs just to fix it.
[07:50] <LaserJock> what kind of laptop?
[07:50] <\sh> crimsun: you are crazy ;)
[07:50] <crimsun> HP 
[07:51] <jussi01> crimsun you have too much money
[07:51] <LaserJock> heh, as much as he works I seriously doubt it
[07:51] <crimsun> jussi01: if by "too much" you mean "very little". Professors don't make tons of money like software engineers do.
[07:52] <\sh> oh IT guys don't earn much in .de ;) 
[07:52] <LaserJock> crimsun: you're at NC State?
[07:53] <crimsun> NC A&T
[07:53] <crimsun> an HBCU, the other land-grand institution
[07:53] <crimsun> -grant, even
[07:53] <LaserJock> ah
[07:53] <LaserJock> heh
[07:54] <crimsun> stupid Vista asking me all sorts of questions
[07:54] <LaserJock> = - money
[07:54] <bddebian> pfft
[07:54] <\sh> crimsun: throw it away ;)
[07:54] <jussi01> hehe LaserJock beat me to it
[07:54] <jussi01> lol
[07:55] <LaserJock> that's it
[07:55] <bddebian> house + 2 cars + 3 kids + wife ++ == -$
[07:55] <LaserJock> we're all broke!
[07:55] <bddebian> crimsun: Two wives?
[07:55] <bddebian> eeks
[07:55] <LaserJock> bddebian: I have 2 also if you count Ubuntu ;-)
[07:55] <crimsun> bddebian: IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad and HP Pavilion
[07:55] <\sh> and works as sysadmin...the world is really hard
[07:56] <bddebian> LaserJock: :_)
[07:56] <LaserJock> \sh: but you're doing better
[07:56] <\sh> yepp..better then last year ;)
[07:56] <bddebian> crimsun: D00d, laptops are no where NEAR as expensive as wives! ;-)
[07:56] <LaserJock> I remember when we had the "Save \sh" drive
[07:56] <crimsun> bddebian: uh, tell that to git-core, mercurial, patch, interdiff, wget, mutt, and scp
[07:56] <\sh> LaserJock: I still lack from this time
[07:57] <bddebian> LaserJock: :-)
[07:57] <dholbach> lighttpd installation problems too
[07:57] <bddebian> crimsun: pfftt.  Oh hey, speaking of git-core. If you're playing with that, please fix it for GNU/Hurd too will ya? ;-P
[07:57] <jussi01> crimsun, laptops take your time, and a little money... wives take your time and all of your money..:D
[07:57] <bddebian> heh
[07:58] <crimsun> jussi01: no, you don't understand. My time _is_ my money. You'll begin to understand when you see how many resources I pour into Ubuntu.
[07:58] <bddebian> Is ajmitch's list static or updated?
[07:59] <vil> imbrandon, ping
[08:01] <LaserJock> bddebian: updated
[08:01] <bddebian> Hmm, strange
[08:01] <LaserJock> crimsun: exactly
[08:06] <\sh> I hate umts 
[08:09] <dholbach> jack-audio-connection-kit too
[08:14] <\sh> where do I find this script for changing the maintainer field ?
[08:18] <vil> dholbach, can I do anything to get eclipse uploaded?
[08:18] <dholbach> vil: I gave my ok - one other member will have to ACK the request
[08:18] <vil> I mean some lobbying ;)
[08:19] <dholbach> anything that convinces them and is worth pointing out... :)
[08:23] <crimsun> vil: bug # ?
[08:23] <ajmitch> morning
[08:23] <crimsun> dholbach: what's the situation with j-a-c-k?
[08:23] <dholbach> crimsun: I just saw a bunch of crashers there
[08:24] <crimsun> ah
[08:24] <crimsun> probably similar in number to audacity
[08:25] <crimsun> oh blah, this thing has broadcom wifi :/
[08:25] <vil> crimsun, bug #93145:
[08:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 93145 in eclipse "[UVFe]  update Eclipse to upstream 3.2.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93145
[08:26] <crimsun> vil: confirmed
[08:28] <ajmitch> bddebian: why are you surprised that the list is updated? because there are so many bugs remaining?
[08:29] <bddebian> ajmitch: No, I just thought I had done apcalc :-(
[08:29] <vil> crimsun, cool, thx
[08:29] <ajmitch> bddebian: it only works on source versions in the archive
[08:30] <ajmitch> apcalc doesn't appear to have been touched
[08:33] <bddebian> I know it's weird.  Maybe my old age is just getting to me :'-(
[08:35] <bddebian> ajmitch: And mailcrypt looks suspicious
[08:35] <ajmitch> there are some funny ones on the list
[08:36] <ajmitch> due to the version stuff used in debian
[08:36] <ajmitch> note the case (cvs vs CVS)
[08:36] <bddebian> Gah, frick, I missed that :-)
[08:37] <ajmitch> ignore ones like cacti
[08:37] <ajmitch> where the bug was reported in one package & fixed in another
[08:37] <ajmitch> look over all the rest, request UVF exceptions where needed :)
[08:40] <bddebian> I'll try.  I'm freakin' swamped at work atm :'-(
[08:40] <ajmitch> heh
[08:40] <bddebian> Freakin' writing .NET crap 
[08:40] <ajmitch> so am I :)
[08:40] <ajmitch> writing php crap
[09:30] <pirast> dholbach, hi, running a bot? ;-)
[09:30] <dholbach> not really :-)
[09:30] <dholbach> pirast: but soon I'll be through the old apport bugs
[09:30] <dholbach> and from that time on, I'm sure we'll better cope with those bugs coming in
[09:31] <dholbach> and I'm sure we'll fix a bunch of them in tomorrow's Universe HUG DAY
[09:31] <pirast> uh oh :)
[09:32] <pirast> lets see :)
[09:35] <ajmitch> hm
[09:35] <ajmitch> seems that people really aren't reading the note at the top of MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[09:35] <LaserJock> that's why I wanted to get through the current list
[09:35] <LaserJock> and delete everything
[09:36] <ajmitch> LaserJock: get bddebian onto it!
[09:37] <DktrKranz> shouldn't be a better choice to make a subpage of such a big list? so that note will be marked properly
[09:37] <bddebian> :'-(
[09:37] <LaserJock> hmm
[09:37] <DktrKranz> wipe it could be a little confusing
[09:38] <LaserJock> well, it should be wiped when we're done
[09:38] <LaserJock> and we should just have a link to LP
[09:38] <LaserJock> and instructions for what to add
[09:40] <DktrKranz> anyway, users usually posted in that list their requests, so they have do rehab to a new design
[09:41] <LaserJock> right
[09:42] <DktrKranz> so, i think you have to look at both sides :(
[09:42] <DktrKranz> wasn't REVU process revisited too?
[09:43] <LaserJock> we're working on it
[09:43] <LaserJock> I don't think REVU will really go away for a while
[09:45] <DktrKranz> i read something about using bzr
[09:45] <dholbach> have a nice evening - see you tomorrow
[09:45] <DktrKranz> see you daniel
[09:45] <LaserJock> cya dholbach 
[09:45] <dholbach> see you! :-)
[09:45] <LaserJock> DktrKranz: yes, that's right
[09:45] <LaserJock> DktrKranz: dholbach came up with a crazy cool scheme to use LP
[09:46] <DktrKranz> so, suppose I want to package a new software
[09:46] <DktrKranz> should I use repos or push it into REVU?
[09:46] <dholbach> DktrKranz: I'm sure everybody in here can help you with that - if you have any more questions - I'll be around tomorrow again
[09:46] <dholbach> so just prod me if you need anything
[09:46] <DktrKranz> sure :)
[09:46] <dholbach> rock on
[09:46] <DktrKranz> thanks
[09:47] <LaserJock> DktrKranz: well, you could either use LP or REVU
[09:47] <LaserJock> DktrKranz: right now it's up to the contributor
[09:47] <DktrKranz> ok
[09:47] <LaserJock> we haven't really finalized how we want to use LP
[09:47] <LaserJock> it's not exactly trivial
[09:47] <DktrKranz> so, I have a brand new software already in a brz repo
[09:48] <DktrKranz> i pushed it into REVU a couple of week ago
[09:48] <DktrKranz> should I consider to add a branch too?
[09:48] <LaserJock> hmm, well you don't need to
[09:48] <LaserJock> but if you want to play around with it fine
[09:49] <DktrKranz> mh, maybe next release
[09:49] <DktrKranz> i think it would be redundant
[09:50] <DktrKranz> anyway, REVU is very easy to play with
[09:51] <DktrKranz> so I think you will have an hard fight to migrate to a bzr solution
[09:54] <LaserJock> DktrKranz: yeah, but it has it's weak points too
[09:55] <DktrKranz> of course
[09:56] <DktrKranz> we'll stay tuned to hear some cool announcements about it :)
[09:57] <Fujitsu> Morning everyone.
[09:59] <bddebian> Heya Fujitsu
[10:00] <Fujitsu> Hi bddebia.
[10:00] <Fujitsu> *bddebian
[10:13] <bddebian> Later gang
[10:25] <keescook> pirast: let me know if you are able to create a reproducer with "sipsak"...
[10:26] <pirast> keescook, i'll try but i am no expert
[10:26] <pirast> as you might have seen
[10:26] <keescook> dang.  neither am I.  :)
[10:26] <pirast> lol, i am such a fool
[10:26] <keescook> pirast: wait, why?
[10:27] <pirast> keescook, because of "finding" the fixing patch
[10:27] <pirast> which is the old one
[10:27] <keescook> hehe
[10:27] <pirast> hehe :P
[10:27] <keescook> I did the same thing initially; I'd been looking all morning for the right one.  geh.  I wish the asterisk folks would play nicer for security updates.  :)
[10:28] <TheMuso> Hey MOTUs.
[10:28] <keescook> hiya TheMuso
[10:28] <pirast> keescook, look at http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=9203  :P ( it really worked for phpmyadmin, they publish diffs now, even against older versions )
[10:29] <pirast> that's why i want to try to keep the feisty version safe from now on
[10:29] <pirast> but i have some problems with the cdbs patchsys currently
[10:29] <keescook> pirast: ah! very nice.  good bug.  :)
[10:30] <ajmitch> hey keescook 
[10:30] <pirast> lol. kees.
[10:30] <keescook> hiya ajmitch!
[10:30] <pirast> have a look at the latest comment there: "there were no *security* fixes in 1.2.17"
[10:30] <keescook> pirast: "there were no *security* fixes in 1.2.17. Please try to abstain from reopening closed bugs -> if you have additional questions or comments, it is always better t o communicate realtime with a bug-marshall on #asterisk-bugs channel (freenode)"
[10:30] <pirast> hahahahaha
[10:30] <keescook> yeah!
[10:30] <pirast> lol
[10:30] <pirast> OMFG
[10:30] <keescook> so, ignore that dude's comments from now on.  :P
[10:31] <crimsun> what? there are no bugs, only features.
[10:31] <ajmitch> that looks pleasant
[10:31] <ajmitch> crimsun: of course. and ponies
[10:31] <LaserJock> lots and lots of ponies
[10:32] <crimsun> this laptop had better be playing pony music by tonight.
[10:32] <pirast> keescook, lol now i dont understand anything.. why does the announcment say "this release incorporates a fix for the SIP DoS vulnerability recently discovered by INRIA Lorraine"
[10:32] <pirast> and the guy say "there we no security fixes"?
[10:32] <keescook> pirast: perhaps point out to them that a remote DoS is considered "security" by many people.  :)
[10:32] <ajmitch> crimsun: how is the new laptop? ready to be thrown out the window?
[10:32] <pirast> keescook, hehehe, he is shirty enough i think
[10:32] <pirast> keescook, but hey, i cant loose any karma :P
[10:33] <crimsun> ajmitch: it's craptastic. Has lost clusters already, which caused 20070322.2 alt's ntfsresize to bail. Fixed those, installing now.
[10:33] <ajmitch> crimsun: how disturbing
[10:33] <ajmitch> it probably shipped with a half-broken FS from the factory
[10:33] <keescook> pirast: heh
[10:36] <pirast> keescook, <Mercestes> pirast:  shh... we dont' talk about security issues. lol :)
[10:36] <keescook> pirast: heh.  from #asterisk?
[10:36] <pirast> keescook, yeah :D
[10:37] <keescook> Funny, I asked for the commit earlier in the channel.  no one answered, of course.  :)
 yes, it's fixed.  K, thanks, bye.
[10:37] <pirast>  Shhhh.
[10:37] <keescook> hehe
[10:37] <ajmitch> isn't it comforting to know that lots of people rely on asterisk?
[10:39] <Burgwork> ajmitch: ugh, indeed
[10:39] <pirast> ajmitch, keescook, if they would enable distributors to have good secure packages, they would not sell there businnes edition, i guess
[10:39] <lionel> ajmitch: it is conforting in the fact that my asterisk box is not opened on the world
[10:39] <keescook> pirast: owch!
[10:40] <Burgwork> just when I was about to fill out a MIR for asterisk as well
[10:40] <Burgwork> ...
[10:40] <lionel> most IPBX "business edition" baed on asterisk doest not follow security update...
[10:40] <Burgwork> indeed
[10:41] <Burgwork> my phone system being owned freaks me out just a smidge
[10:41] <pirast> lol
[10:41] <pirast> i am off now, night
[10:41] <ajmitch> heh
[10:41] <lionel> night pirast !
[10:41] <ajmitch> *excitement*
[10:42] <lionel> :)
[10:42] <ajmitch> see you later :)
[10:42] <lionel> good day !
[10:42] <crimsun> Burgwork: why? It's not like people actually talk on phones.
[10:42] <Burgwork> crimsun: because my boss would raise my already near astronomic stress levels by harping on me to fix it
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: Have your brother fly _really_ close to your boss' window a few times - that'll keep him distracted
[10:48] <Burgwork> heh
[11:04] <DktrKranz> any main sponsor here?
[11:09] <crimsun> sure, but keep in mind that main is frozen for Beta.
[11:09] <DktrKranz> yeah
[11:10] <DktrKranz> anyway, i would like to receive your feedback about a merge request
[11:10] <DktrKranz> from bug #94916
[11:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 94916 in multipath-tools "Please merge multipath-tools 0.4.7-2 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94916
[11:11] <DktrKranz> this is one of my firstr try with main, so i would like to hear some suggestions from some core-dev
[11:14] <crimsun> DktrKranz: the maintainer script changes are missing
[11:15] <crimsun> DktrKranz: also, where is the Ubuntu-specific udev rule/change?
[11:16] <DktrKranz> merged in debian version
[11:16] <crimsun> then note it as such in the changelog
[11:17] <DktrKranz> should i mention it in debian/changelog or somewhere in bug description?
[11:17] <crimsun> in the latest Ubuntu changelog entry
[11:17] <DktrKranz> ok
[11:17] <DktrKranz> i'm going to do it
[11:18] <DktrKranz> any other suggestions?
[11:18] <crimsun> I can more thoroughly review it after work
[11:19] <DktrKranz> thanks :)