=== adamant1988 [n=chatzill@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] bersace: ping ? [12:39] saispo: pong [12:40] :) [12:40] i try your solution, but don't find pipe :/ === adamant1988 [n=chatzill@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] ISO_Level3_Shift + Maj + L [12:41] i use enter key in the num pad for 3rd group, but the conbinaison for pipe is ? [12:41] w00t [12:41] see gnome-keyboard-properties to examine keymap [12:41] my symbols map is as close as possible to Mac OS X one except the bugs [12:41] bersace: is more difficult than emacs :) [12:42] in Mac OS X, caps then give , not [12:42] saispo: lol [12:42] bersace: will find another key fir 3rd group :) [12:42] that's not easy [12:43] apple on the right is not needed ? [12:44] a virtual keyboard which present all touch is not present in gnome ? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] argh, wtf. Upstream just reverted a patch that I made that reverted a patch that upstream made. So we get to reinstate what was correct all along. === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:56] crimsun: What package? [01:00] take a wild guess :-) [01:00] alsa [01:00] hda_intel.c === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121g5q.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] oh ok === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD2C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-244-121.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mjunx [n=matt@d47-69-106-221.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-244-121.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] gn8 everyone === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TwoPints [n=frank@ACC97B66.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HarunAbdAsSami [n=harun@pool-72-78-156-206.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] Heya gang [02:22] Heya bddebian [02:22] Hi RAOF [02:22] hi bddebian, RAOF [02:22] Hi Hobbsee [02:22] Hey Hobbsee [02:23] That was an absurdely large amount of greetings for 3 people === TheMuso waits for CDs to be created, so he can do some fresh re-installs. [02:24] I was hoping to get into a cycle of infinite greetings. [02:24] heh [02:25] RAOF: That seems possible if you had a greeting chain so long that people left and came back during it [02:25] :p === RAOF starts thinking of greeting graphs [02:27] racarr: Or, maybe, you could have a cyclic greeting graph that spanned channels! [02:28] RAOF: It's only socially proper if it's Hamiltonian! === RAOF explodes in a mess of mathematical geekery === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch decides not to greet people as he returns from lunch [02:32] HI AJMITCH!! [02:32] I could come up with some nasty reply to anyone who greets me [02:32] but that would violate the CoC [02:34] heh === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FordCortina [n=frank@ACC97B66.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] well, that's more overt than imply breaking their audio :-) [02:42] simply, even [02:44] hehe [02:47] HI CRIMSUN [02:47] bddebian: your caps lock appears to be stuck [02:47] nah [02:47] please go & take a hammer to your keyboard to fix it [02:48] bddebian: HI 1/3 DEITY! [02:48] not hardly :-( [02:48] your wiki page belies you [02:52] My wiki page? === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:54] BdDebianIsAGod [02:54] spelled correctly, of course === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] hi guys [02:57] HI BDDEBIAN [02:57] Does GTK, and more specifically glade, allow you to create combo boxes that also allow text entry? If so, what is the widget class name? [02:58] Referring to https://launchpad.net/bugs/59386 [02:58] Malone bug 59386 in gnome-ppp "using /dev/ttyUSB0 in gnome-ppp" [Medium,Confirmed] [02:58] what do you mean by text entry? [02:58] Probably a GtkTextEntry. :-) [02:58] shawarma: ha ha, very helpful [02:58] LaserJock: I have seen combbo boxes that also allow you to enter text by hand. So you can either choose from a dropdown list, or enter something by typing ti in. === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] s/ti/it/ [02:59] I thought that doing that for the above bug would be a quick fix at least. [02:59] Heya LaserJock [03:00] TheMuso: interesting [03:00] LaserJock: Hmm.. I'm mistaken. I was thinking of a GtkEntry. [03:00] Can't remember where I saw that though. [03:01] But since I don't delve into GUI specifics much, I could be totally wrong. === TheMuso grabs lunch === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FordCortina [n=frank@ACC97B66.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Shoragan [n=shoragan@datenfreihafen.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] hey [03:23] hi zul === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-11fapcf.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] hery LaserJock === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-motu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO | http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by Adri2000 at Mon Mar 12 19:15:54 2007 [05:14] (joejaxx/#ubuntu-motu) ajmitch: that is good to hear :) [05:14] (jdong/#ubuntu-motu) hmm neither .6 or .8 work [05:14] (jdong/#ubuntu-motu) that means I should sleep :) === ajmitch can connect [05:15] hmm [05:15] ok, I'll blame my network and call it a night [05:16] Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com|91.189.89.8|:80... [05:17] jdong: i had that problem yesterday [05:17] oh look at that.... [05:18] silly firestarter, assuming static ip's is for kids. [05:18] :P [05:19] argh, this macbook saga just doesn't stop [05:19] is libnotify working for you guys? [05:19] somehow after this week's updating, libnotify popups no longer show for me. [05:20] I hate notification bubbles anyhow. [05:20] notify-send foo bar; nothing happens.... [05:20] crimsun: lol :) [05:20] crimsun: macbook saga? [05:20] lol [05:20] fix one revision, breaks three others [05:20] :\ [05:20] wow. === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.131.47] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] LaserJock: hello [07:03] hi joejaxx [07:04] how are you? [07:04] oh, pretty good [07:05] you? [07:05] that is good [07:05] i am ok [07:05] i am waiting for the new d-i and udebs to be published [07:06] :) [07:07] do they have good stuff for you? [07:07] who? [07:07] the new d-i and udebs === Lutin [n=Lutin@ubuntu/member/lutin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] i am hoping it fixes the no cdrom detected problem [07:10] when you run the alternative discs === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-244-121.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@h-68-167-204-197.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-18.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-244-121.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@h-68-167-204-197.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-18.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@81.115.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@81.115.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:10] If I'm packaging something (new desktop-effects), that's python, and loads a module at runtime [08:11] If beryl is installed (or after it installs Beryl) [08:11] it's ok not to have it as a dependency, right? [08:11] and is there anywhere I should put it in the control file, etc? [08:11] As in, it checks itself if what it needs is installed, because it needs to be in main, but Beryl probably can't [08:12] right [08:12] you could have it as Suggests: or Recommends: [08:13] Suggests is less authorative right? [08:13] and apt, etc installs recommends now? [08:14] Suggests is probably the best idea. [08:14] As you could very well want desktop-effects without beryl. [08:16] ok well I'll autotoolize package etc all of this in a bit...I hate autotools >< [08:16] anyone know why jedit isn't packaged? it seems to be gpl and all that, is it just no one's done it yet? [08:17] Ademan: it's java isn't it? [08:17] indeed [08:18] that's probably why [08:18] pain in the ass factor of java packages? [08:19] their website has a debian repository though, so i'd guess most of the work is already done... === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] an editor in java, that must take even longer to start up than emacs [08:20] Ademan: well many Java apps only work with Sun's JVM [08:21] so they might as well be non-free [08:21] racarr: I've heard it's not bad at all [08:21] I've never actually heard about it, I just couldn't resist the opportunity to take a shot at emacs AND java [08:22] lol [08:22] it's a fairly popular editor [08:22] vim uber alles [08:22] anyways, isn't sun releasing the jvm under the gpl? [08:22] yes, eventually === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:24] JEdit features page: Copy and paste with an unlimited number of clipboards (known as "registers") [08:24] *cough emacs cough* [08:24] meh, i guess i'll go back to hating autoconf and automake for a while [08:24] I find Java apps to be a real shame that way [08:25] Ademan: Me too! [08:25] there are several Chemistry apps I'd love to get into Ubuntu [08:25] hey neat, beryl were source NEWd [08:25] they are GPL's [08:25] wait what? [08:25] crimsun: source NEWd? [08:25] made it through the NEW queue [08:25] crimsun: It actually passed!? [08:25] is that like nekked? [08:25] oh, that was just beryl-settings [08:25] ah yeah [08:26] everything else is still in new, heh [08:26] it actually goes through NEW twice [08:26] the first time is for the source package [08:26] then it gets build [08:27] s/d/t/ === _jason [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:27] and then it goes through binary NEW [08:29] does binary new take as long? 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[10:06] Sydney. [10:06] aha [10:06] so we're only 1 hour ahead for a change [10:07] hey \sh === ajmitch is in NZ [10:07] Aaah. [10:07] hi ajmitch, RAOF === jussi01 is an expat aussie... [10:07] jussi01: I can understand you running :) [10:07] lol [10:07] ...you just should have run to Hobart. [10:07] hah === jussi01 lives on the other side of the word === ajmitch hasn't made it to hobart yet === RAOF lived there for... 15 years. === jussi01 's mother is from hobart [10:09] Hobart is awesome, and doesn't languish at 100% humidity for a week like Sydney :/ === jussi01 loves the fact that where he lives is covered in snow at the moment.... [10:11] RAOF: Where in Sydney? [10:11] Yey! Another Sydneysider. [10:11] Rose bay, actually. [10:11] too many sydney types around here [10:11] hehe [10:11] TheMuso: You? [10:12] I was born in perth... but grew up in geelong... === ajmitch at least visited sydney last year :) [10:12] RAOF: Croydon. === Seiya [n=Seiya@host197.patientkeeper.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:12] Cool, although I don't actually know Sydney very well :-/ [10:13] Right. [10:13] I don't suppose anyone wants to review gnome-compiz-manager while I eat some dinner? [10:13] Also, I don't suppose it's likely to get in now, even though there's a package sitting in NEW still. [10:14] Mmm, tuna toasties! === Seiya[work] [n=Seiya@host197.patientkeeper.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] Does anyone have time to look at my new desktop-effects? [10:24] the packaging I mean, I had to redo it [10:27] actually I should probably add a timer like the original one has incase beryl/compiz fails to start === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seiya [n=Seiya@host197.patientkeeper.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@dslb-088-074-019-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] good morning [10:36] <\sh> moins dholbach [10:38] hey daniel [10:42] hey \sh, hey andrew === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-074-019-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seiya [n=Seiya@host197.patientkeeper.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:52] heya [10:53] morning === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-22-12.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] sigh === viviersf smacks his pc [10:55] hey viviersf [10:55] hey, howz you [10:55] good, you [10:55] ? [10:56] nah im good thx [10:56] just hate it when i dont know how to do something [10:56] hehe === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@dslb-088-074-019-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@dslb-088-074-019-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@dslb-088-074-019-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blackskad [n=blackska@vpnb073.ugent.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=r67894@AGrenoble-257-1-67-116.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-18.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seiya [n=Seiya@dsl092-066-166.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seiya[work] [n=Seiya@dsl092-066-166.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-18.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seiya[workwork] [n=Seiya@dsl092-066-166.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] does anybody of us look into exaile? [12:14] it's CRASH-O-RAMA [12:14] we get zillions of duplicates [12:14] would be nice to get a new upstream version or debian fixes for it [12:15] I've seen a whole lot of bugs about it, yeah... === Fujitsu looks at who has uploaded it, if anybody. [12:15] dholbach: I suppose I could take a look. i've hacked on it before. === shawarma hides [12:15] shawarma: Ahh, so it's your fault! [12:15] I also remember it started crashing om me when we moved to python 2.5 [12:16] just run bugnumbers -p exaile to get a first impression :-) [12:16] It has a whopping 1/200 of the universe bugs... :( [12:17] i didn't know it was that popular [12:17] Fujitsu: How can you tell? [12:17] dholbach: bugnumbers? which package is that in? [12:17] bughelper === Gervystar [n=alessand@host166-63-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] I can see it has 26 bugs, and we have 5041 universe bugs. [12:17] s/uni/{un,mult}i/ [12:17] Only 5041? Wow. [12:17] That's about a fifth of the Ubuntu total, which isn't too bad. [12:19] I think it's interesting that a python application manages to trigger that many segmentation faults.. [12:19] Gr. [12:19] Is anybody else noticing beta returning a lot of empty responses? [12:20] lp beta? [12:20] No. [12:20] Darn. [12:20] It's particularly frequent tonight. [12:22] deluge-torrent has some python crasher bugs too === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-148-34.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] Are any of you experiencing it? [12:24] The exaile crashes. Not lp weirdness. [12:25] python crashers should be fine to just forward upstream === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:26] dholbach: I'm just thinking it might be .pyc files from the 2.4 days that might be messing things up.. [12:26] dholbach: -uvf has been resubscribed to #90749 asking for getting 0.5 into Feisty [12:26] StevenK: alright - looking into it [12:26] bug 90749 [12:26] Malone bug 90749 in deluge-torrent "Deluge 0.5 in feisty" [Wishlist,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90749 [12:29] A "forward to upstream bug tracker" button in Launchpad would rock *so* hard. [12:29] dholbach: I'm happy to merge deluge 0.5 if the UVF gets approved. === zakame_ [n=zakame@69.60.114.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] dholbach: You just said 'thanks for the report' on bug 94580, but Package: deluge-torrent 0.5.0 [12:31] Malone bug 94580 in deluge-torrent "[apport] deluge crashed with ImportError in ()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94580 [12:33] StevenK: and marked it as medium [12:33] and assigned to motu [12:33] dholbach: Same thing with bug 94572 [12:33] Malone bug 94572 in deluge-torrent "[apport] deluge crashed with DuplicateTorrentError in sync()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94572 [12:33] so it doesn't show up on the unconfirmed/undecided list [12:33] and the backtrace is clear [12:33] you can forward it to upstream just like that [12:34] Is it really a great idea to assign to MOTU? That takes it off the unassigned list... [12:34] But most of the deluge bugs look to be against versions that we don't have in the archive. [12:34] And the MOTU bug list is unlikely to ever get looked at. [12:34] it'd be nice if you pointed that out on the bug reports === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.145.77] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] I can, but I'm pointing it out to you since you commented on them both roughly 10 minutes ago. [12:35] StevenK: i'm going through 600 apport bugs atm [12:35] Neat [12:35] I don't intend to follow up on all of them [12:35] Hrm. [12:36] but I want to get clean retraces for all of them (where appropriate) - after a while retracing doesn't make sense any more [12:36] it'd be a shame if people uploaded crash reports and they'd rot in LP === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] StevenK: so I'd appreciate it if you'd leave a comment on those bugs [12:37] I'm going to reject both of them, given the version. [12:37] thanks a lot [12:38] hey there [12:38] hey Lutin [12:38] hi dholbach [12:40] dholbach: you assigned bug #94580 to MOTU bug it's reported against deluge 0.5.0, which doesnt seem to be in ubuntu ... am I missing something ? [12:40] Malone bug 94580 in deluge-torrent "[apport] deluge crashed with ImportError in ()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94580 [12:40] Lutin: I'm about to reject [12:40] Lutin: sorry, the version number didn't occur to me to be wrong [12:40] ok [12:41] Lutin: I just said before: I'm doing the initial triage of crasher bugs (asking for retrace, assign to the right people, set importance) [12:41] I'd really appreciate help with that === blackskad [n=blackska@vpnb073.ugent.be] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:41] I linked the motu crasher bugs on MOTU/TODO [12:41] dholbach: ok [12:41] so hopefully people will help out with those bugs tomorrow on Universe HUG DAY [12:42] it'd be great to get some of those crashers resolved for release - maybe we can just grab a debian version or a new upstream version which fixes it === danohuiginn [n=ant@p54BEE036.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@249.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt_ [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt_ [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host118-134-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] does anyone have time to look at the packaging at: http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/rc/ [01:26] it's for the desktop-effects rewrite === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] racarr: looking at it [01:38] desktop-effects is main... [01:38] geser: I uploaded it to REVU incidentally [01:38] the version should be 1.0-0ubuntu1 [01:38] Fujitsu: Yes but I still need people to look over it [01:38] racarr: Good point. [01:39] geser: Ok, I wasn't sure about that but should have looked it up [01:39] Fujitsu: As the above indicates, I definitely need people to look over it :p [01:40] geser: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4723 uploaded a fix for the ubuntu1 should show up soon [01:40] W: desktop-effects; Executable /usr/share/desktop-effects/desktop-effects.glade with perms 0755 is not an ELF file or script. [01:41] W: desktop-effects: binary-without-manpage desktop-effects [01:41] E: desktop-effects: python-script-but-no-python-dep ./usr/bin/desktop-effects [01:41] E: desktop-effects: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl [01:41] geser: mm I thought python-gconf depended on python [01:42] and python-gtk2 [01:42] I smell Python Policy non-compliance. [01:42] apparently lintian doesn't check recurively [01:43] moin all [01:43] <\sh> Can I remove wine from Ubuntu? ,-) [01:43] \sh: Still giving you issues? [01:43] <\sh> Fujitsu: well, this issue from yesterday, we'll investigate... [01:44] <\sh> Fujitsu: but I can't test crashes like playing far cry or something like this, I don't have those programs and no hardware [01:44] racarr: do you know http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ already? [01:44] geser: Parts [01:44] racarr: The .glade shouldn't be 0755, too [01:44] Like Linda siad [01:44] Er, said [01:46] <\sh> dholbach: do we have hardcore 3d ego shooter player in the bugsquad team? [01:46] \sh: no idea [01:47] <\sh> well, farcry is not on the list of apps in wine...somehow, and I can't test it because of no hw and sw...and no far cry license ... so what do I do? reject it? [01:48] geser: Do you want to update bug 94263 with a proper sync request, or shall I? [01:48] Malone bug 94263 in ez-ipupdate "Please merge ez-ipupdate 3.0.11b8-12 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94263 [01:48] can any sponsor take a look at my packages? https://launchpad.net/~wendell/+assignedbugs?search=Search&field.status=In+Progress [01:49] StevenK: I wanted to do it later but if you have time now you can do it. [01:49] geser: Aye, doing so. [01:49] jwendell: I'll look at one in a sec [01:49] okuploaded a few of the fixes... [01:50] racarr: you're missing a 's' in Suggests in your control file === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] geser: Do it later, it gives Debian time to get -13 onto the mirrors [01:55] I'll get that uploaded in just a second, doing a patch now to use adept/kde if available === jekil [n=alessand@host21-239-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] hello [01:57] hiya === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seiya [n=Seiya@host197.patientkeeper.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] geser: Uploaded a new version with a patch (and hence a removed dependency) and the suggests fix, permissions, etc [02:08] jwendell: I've munged bug 73983 to be a sync [02:08] Bug 73983 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/73983 is private [02:09] Um, bug 73893 [02:09] Malone bug 73893 in cryptmount "Empty examples directory" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73893 [02:09] Thanks for showing I'm an idiot, Ubugtu. [02:09] geser: do u know if bug 93540 is going to be approved? :) [02:09] Malone bug 93540 in liferea "UVF exception: liferea 1.2.8" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93540 [02:10] StevenK, but it's too late for merges, not? [02:11] StevenK, i've updated maintainer fields with that debdiff too [02:11] jwendell: It shouldn't be. [02:12] jwendell: And? The updated maintainer field is only required if the version is -XubuntuY. Which a sync from Debian won't be. [02:12] ok [02:13] jwendell: As a consqeuence, I've unsubscribed ubuntu-universe-sponsors and unassigned the bug. [02:14] StevenK, ok [02:14] Oops. === StevenK sets the state to Confirmed [02:15] racarr: is revu for you also broken if you want to see the details for your package? [02:16] man... the firestarter installation/upgrade/purging problems are quite a lot already [02:16] could somebody look into this and see if it the maintainer scripts are fixed in debian? [02:16] geser: Yes === ivoks [n=ivoks@20-170.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:17] pochu: liferea is in main and I don't know the details for UVF exceptions there [02:17] a revu admin around? [02:18] this should help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess :) [02:18] racarr: the last package that I could get from REVU has still W: desktop-effects: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/share/desktop-effects/desktop-effects.glade [02:18] E: desktop-effects: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:19] geser: Err...I thought I fixed that just a second [02:19] and what is meant by the second warning? [02:21] im guessing you did it the wrong way? [02:21] debian/copyright should point to the full text of the GPL which can be found in /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL [02:21] racarr: it means that you should refer to /usr/share/common-licences/ in your copyright file [02:21] geser: you're too fast for me ... [02:21] there is a template for copyright file [02:22] the error is quite self-explanatory really [02:22] StevenK, who will take care of that bug? [02:22] if program is GPL, then you should just 'link' it on existing GPL on Ubuntu [02:22] like this; [02:22] The software is released under GNU GPLv2. For more info [02:22] see /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL [02:22] elkbuntu: It seems like there are several ways to interpret it :/ [02:23] geser: for example, take a look at /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/copyright [02:23] i only interpret it one way.. how were you interpreting it? [02:23] I wasn't sure how to interpret it, I guessed it was something like that but it wasn't really unambiguous, and I wasn't usre if there was something very specific I had to do [02:24] ok fixed copyright... [02:25] will look at why it still thinks the glade is an executable now (I was sure I fixed that?) [02:25] i would think there'd be a nice big section explaining licencing dos and donts in the debian packaging guide thingie.. but i've not read it myself so i could be wrong [02:25] elkbuntu: There is [02:25] elkbuntu: So nyah [02:26] StevenK, so nyah.. i (kinda) knew without even reading it... im just *that* good [02:26] elkbuntu: Uh huh. :-) [02:26] racarr: if you lintian -i on the generated deb you get an explanation to each E: and W: [02:26] Because it's rude to disagree... [02:26] StevenK, ha! [02:26] Oops! [02:26] elkbuntu: :-) [02:26] I did 655 instead of 644 -_- [02:27] geser: Ok [02:27] racarr: Ha! That'd do it [02:27] StevenK: 4 for read...plus 0 for write and execute...equals 5! [02:28] ok uploaded fixes [02:28] racarr: Your math needs a little work. :-) [02:29] it was more likely my typing, but whatever [02:30] Blame your fingers, sure. === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mjunx [n=matt@adsl-75-63-63-233.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] geser: Uploaded fixes for all of those..... === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host118-134-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] racarr: have to wait for someone who can fix revu [02:36] ok I can throw them on my fdo apge in the meantime [02:38] geser: http://people.freedesktop.org/~racarr/rc/ [02:38] err, I left the old ubuntu4 ones up there as well, but just ignore them , heh === EtienneG [n=etienne@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] racarr: DEB_INSTALL_DOCS_beryl-settings-bindings := README NEWS in debian/rules [02:50] I've been told several times over the past few days [02:50] that cdbs takes care of that now [02:50] and it's useless [02:50] and I ended up removing it from all the beryl packages [02:50] are you sure? === xerxas_ [n=r67894@AGrenoble-257-1-12-138.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] you have it in your debian/rules for d-e [02:50] so either remove it or fix the package name in it [02:51] and the install/beryl-{k,}ubuntu:: targets are useless there too [02:55] and linda/lintian still report W: desktop-effects; Executable /usr/share/desktop-effects/desktop-effects.glade with perms 0755 is not an ELF file or script. === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] I don't get that anymore... === adamant1988 [n=chatzill@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@82.98.16.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] Heya gang [03:10] Hi bddebian [03:11] Hi geser === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schultmc [i=schultmc@nat/progeny/x-21e2e2d38a2fa133] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host118-134-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@82.98.16.2] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Gazer [n=gazer@200.68.69.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-a227-206.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@20-170.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host118-134-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twanj [n=chatzill@c-66-176-118-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50]