[01:50] <Hobbsee> SportChick: you here?
[01:50] <Hobbsee> clearly not
[01:50] <Tm_T> :)
[01:51] <Tm_T> I'm here
[01:51] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: yes, but you're not a freenode staffer
[01:51] <Tm_T> hmh, true
[01:51] <Tm_T> discrimination that is
[01:52] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:52] <Hobbsee> hi Madpilot
[01:52] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: ie, you wont be able to tell me who to poke to get more staffers.
[01:52] <gnomefreak> i use !staff when i need one in a hurry
[01:52] <Madpilot> evening Hobbsee
[01:52] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: but I can tell you interesting stuff about music etc
[01:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:53] <Tm_T> bah
[02:02] <SportChick> Hobbsee: yes, now I am
[02:02] <Hobbsee> SportChick: yay.  who's the contact to poke to get more freenode staffers?
[02:02] <SportChick> Hobbsee: in what way?  in your channel? or?
[02:03] <Hobbsee> SportChick: in general.  across timezones where europeans and/or americans are asleep
[02:03] <SportChick> ah, Hobbsee talk to christel
[02:15] <gouki> Hi guys. Bruenig is being quite offensive on #ubuntu - calling everyone who prefers aptitude 'idiots'
[02:20] <Tm_T> oh noes, monkey on the driver seat!
[02:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:21] <gouki> Heheh
[02:32] <nalioth> Hobbsee: did you get your staff request honored?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> nalioth: yeah
[02:33] <nalioth> who wants my phone number?
[02:33] <Tm_T> nalioth: me
[02:33] <Tm_T> nalioth: in what timezone you are and when do you sleep?
[02:33] <nalioth> sleep?
[02:34] <nalioth> North America Central Time
[02:34] <Tm_T> ok, so I call every 15 minutes to make sure I do disturb
[02:35] <Hobbsee> nalioth: the people here do, whenever we get the next person who needs a kline, and no staffers who can are aorund
[02:36] <Hobbsee> heya Vorian!
[02:36] <Vorian> hello and congrats :)
[02:37] <Hobbsee> Vorian: over?
[02:38] <Vorian> erm...
[02:38] <Vorian> never mind :/
[02:38] <Vorian> ah...
[02:39] <Tm_T> :p
[02:39] <Vorian> smacks*
[02:39] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: congrats for being contacted staff
[02:39] <beuno> any idea where all the logs from the ubuntu bots are stored?
[02:40] <nalioth> !logs | beuno
[02:40] <ubotu> beuno: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:40] <beuno> thanks nalioth  :D
[02:40] <beuno> gouki: to the bat cave  :p
[02:41] <beuno> there you have them, by channel and by date
[02:41] <gouki> Heheh! The problem is that they can't be organized by data. I can only parse 1 log file for each channel.
[02:42] <beuno> gouki: you parse one log per day?
[02:42] <beuno> I don't understand it then  :/
[02:43] <gouki> IRSSISTATS parses 1 log file for each channel. i.e: ~/irclogs/freenode/#ubuntu - IRSSISTATS takes the content of this file and creates the appropriate HTML page with the statistics
[02:44] <gouki> I can't have ~/irclogs/freenode/ubuntu/01, .../ubuntu/02, etc, etc.
[02:45] <beuno> but it parses it every x amount of time or something, right?
[02:46] <beuno> because then the log files will be enourmos
[02:46] <gouki> Yes. It's not supposed to, but I created a cron job to launch IRSSISTATS every 60 seconds. So the max delay when someone is visiting the website is ~62 seconds
[02:48] <beuno> but can't you parse a "different" log file every 60 seconds?
[02:48] <gouki> Nop :S I mean, the file itself is different (more information there) but it has to be the same file everytime
[02:49] <beuno> gouki: that doesn't sound like a problem
[02:49] <beuno> if I understand correctly, all you need is the file to have the channels name, right?
[02:50] <gouki> Yes
[02:50] <gouki> I could cat 01 >> ubuntu
[02:50] <beuno> gouki: some simple scripting can take care of that
[02:50] <beuno> to run the cron job so that the file gets renamed first
[02:50] <beuno> and you won't need a stat bot  :D
[02:51] <gouki> But don't forget IRSSISTATS requires the 'Day changed' line of IRSSISTATS, so it knows when the day ended. If I used the other log files, it wouldn't be easy to let him (him as in IRSSISTATS) to know that 01 is one day and that 02 is a different day (when cat'ing, that is)
[02:51] <gouki> * of IRSSI, sorry
[02:56] <Tm_T> gouki: I use ircstats
[02:59] <Tm_T> gouki: example of mine: http://tmtravolta.kapsi.fi/ircstats/
[03:02] <gouki> Tm_T: It looks pretty much as a page generated by IRSSISTATS. I'll give it a look! Maybe we don't need all the hacking if ircstats accepts several files
[03:03] <Tm_T> gouki: no idea about several files, I give one big usually
[03:03] <beuno> gouki: this is why I discuss these things in public channels  :p
[03:03] <gouki> Heheh. It worked out pretty good! :)
[03:04] <beuno> I'm sure this isn't too offtopic
[03:04] <Tm_T> sure?
[03:05] <beuno> not 100%  :p
[03:06] <gouki> Heheh
[03:15] <gouki> #ubuntu :S
[03:16] <gouki> LjL was on it :)
[04:00] <effie_jayx> hello :D
[04:00] <beuno> hey effie_jayx
[04:00] <effie_jayx> beuno,  I got you something... :D
[10:56] <jenda> I might have a redeemed troll... maybe not, too...
[10:57] <GazzaK> jenda, really?  they grow up?
[10:57] <highvoltage> jenda: you didn't kiss it, did you?
[10:57] <jenda> dunno... but a several month long ban, and us seeing through the duplicate account...
[10:58] <jenda> ...it seems to have moved him deeply ;)
[10:58] <GazzaK> where?
[10:59] <jenda> GazzaK: in the mind. Mentally. Not elsewhere, you sick, sick person ;)
[10:59] <GazzaK> eeek, I meant what channel
[10:59] <GazzaK> and you say I have a twisted mind
[11:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:02] <GazzaK> sometimes I think half of my rep is based on misinterpretation :-)
[11:03] <mneptok> the other half is based on a 1967 snuff porn magazine
[11:04] <jenda> Kamping_Kaiser: your channel, actually ;)
[11:05] <jenda> mneptok: :-D
[11:05] <GazzaK> mneptok, I do worry about you
[11:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda, o_0
[11:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont belive we have a reformed troll handy
[11:05] <GazzaK> do you have many normal issue trolls?
[11:06] <jenda> Kamping_Kaiser: PM
[11:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda, sure
[11:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> GazzaK, no, thank fully
[01:55] <jenda> Seveas: Can I cloak this guy? https://launchpad.net/~paulschulz
[02:00] <Hobbsee> jenda: i think so
[02:26] <jenda> Hobbsee: not till Seveas say so ;)
[02:27] <jenda> He has to be added to the database of the cloak'd ones.
[02:27] <Hobbsee> jenda: i thought the IRC council could do that now
[02:27] <elkbuntu> isnt this supapowah going.. yeah.. what she said
[02:29] <jenda> Hobbsee: already?
[02:30] <jenda> Weeell, technically, I'm still only allowed to listed to the GC
[02:30] <jenda> and he's the only one who can add to the LP team.
[02:32] <apokryphos> jenda: he's not
[02:32] <apokryphos> all IRC council members are Admins of the team
[02:32] <jenda> apokryphos: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-cloaks
[02:32] <apokryphos> oh, _that_ group. Didn't even know it existed
[02:34] <elkbuntu> it's shiny new
[02:42] <jenda> apokryphos: you should apply for membership ;)
[02:43] <apokryphos> rarely at CC meetings, and they're always so long
[02:53] <jenda> </lame excuse>
[03:11] <apokryphos> that and I don't see a great reason to
[03:12] <jenda> ok :)
[03:12] <apokryphos> I'm not against it; maybe I'll show up sometime
[03:13] <nalioth> apokryphos: there is a great reason to
[03:13] <nalioth> it'll get everyone to shut up about it
[03:13] <elkbuntu> it's true
[03:13] <elkbuntu> these bastards pestered me too
[03:13] <elkbuntu> ;)
[03:14] <apokryphos> bleh
[03:14] <apokryphos> when's the next meeting?
[03:14] <elkbuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda might say
[03:17] <apokryphos> hm, April 3, late. No idea if I'll be around, but I'll try to make it
[03:21] <apokryphos> moinmoin sucks so bad 8)
[03:21] <apokryphos> nalioth: happy now? ;)
[03:22] <nalioth> happy with what? that you hete moinmoin, too?
[03:22] <apokryphos> nalioth: no, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[03:22] <jenda> hehe :)
[03:35] <GazzaK> apokryphos, you are not a member yet?
[03:35] <GazzaK> wow, I thought you were
[03:37] <apokryphos> pfft =)
[03:40] <GazzaK> I'll make a little banner to show sabdfl then :p
[03:40] <apokryphos> :)
[03:45] <GazzaK> damn I cannot find a face pic of you
[03:45] <elkbuntu> ok.. that was odd... just searched for 'vista automatic codec installation' and i didnt think i clicked anything.. then ended up with popups and firefox crashed.. wtf
[03:45] <GazzaK> on vista?
[03:45] <elkbuntu> no
[03:45] <elkbuntu> that's why it's wtf
[03:45] <elkbuntu> it'd be expected behaviour on vista ;)
[03:45] <GazzaK> hehe
[03:45] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: close or crash?
[03:45] <elkbuntu> 'it disappeared'
[03:45] <apokryphos> GazzaK: you couldn't have searched hard ;)
[03:45] <elkbuntu> after grinding the cpu for a bit
[03:45] <gnomefreak> edgy and some feisty having a bit of issues with gtl_style
[03:45] <GazzaK> apokryphos, yeah, but I'm like impatient
[03:45] <gnomefreak> gtk*
[03:45] <apokryphos> fosdem ask for a face pic :O
[03:45] <nalioth> even the mention of that filth is hard on a system . . . .
[03:46] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: try it again see what id does
[03:46] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, but in a google search, without clicking anything?
[03:46] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: depends what the pop up contained
[03:47] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: if it had flash or video in it it would cause it
[03:47] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, since when does a google search page have popups?
[03:47] <elkbuntu> i was at precisely this url: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=vista+automatic+codec+installation&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[03:47] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: since when does firefox have popups?
[03:47] <effie_jayx> can't reproduce it
[03:47] <gnomefreak> cheing
[03:47] <gnomefreak> checking*
[03:48] <gnomefreak> me neither atleast not on feisty
[03:48] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  can you do it again?
[03:48] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, sneakily done popups yeah.. like when you click on blank region of a page and it opens a new window full of ads ;)
[03:48] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, no
[03:48] <gnomefreak> http://discussms.hosting.lsoft.com/SCRIPTS/WA-MSD.EXE?A1=ind0604c&L=wmtalk&O=T&H=0&D=1&T=1
[03:48] <elkbuntu> i was middle scrolling. so it's plausible there was a click of sorts
[03:49] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: that link might be what your looking for
[03:50] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, i'm just trying to find out if it's like the feisty codec installer thingie, so i know if i can legitimately say 'nyah.. we have this and vista doesnt'
[03:50] <apokryphos> maybe I really am ;)
[03:50] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: no
[03:50] <elkbuntu> schwoit
[03:51] <gnomefreak> vista media i think comes with them or whatever the highest version is
[03:51] <gnomefreak> but m$ just paid a crap load of money over a lawsuit about mp3 codecs
[03:52] <gnomefreak> one of the founders wasnt getting any money from the use of them M$ was paying the wrong people
[03:52] <PriceChild> vista ultimate :P
[03:52] <effie_jayx> M$ was paying the wrong people <--------- doh! Xd
[03:52] <effie_jayx> hehe
[03:53] <gnomefreak> thats how i understood it when i was eating lunch lastweek/2 weeks ago
[04:16] <effie_jayx> hehe
[04:17] <effie_jayx> I got them tamed :D http://flickr.com/photos/87048530@N00/410587206/
[04:19] <apokryphos> GazzaK has supah cow powahs now in -uk, so be very careful if you ever enter there
[04:19] <GazzaK> apokryphos, :p
[04:20] <GazzaK> moo
[04:37] <effie_jayx> lol
[05:10] <apokryphos> bleh, bot attacks again
[05:10] <nalioth> apokryphos: where?
[05:10] <apokryphos> nalioth: in #ubuntu, for ages. Floods.
[05:10] <apokryphos> nalioth: horde of them in -unregged
[05:14] <apokryphos> hmm, still joining
[05:22] <apokryphos> ok, I'm -r for now
[05:30] <Tm_T> agh, I really hate this channel limit
[05:31] <apokryphos> Tm_T: which one?
[05:31] <Tm_T> 18:31 -!- Cannot join to channel #kde4-devel (You have joined to too many channels)
[05:31] <apokryphos> Tm_T: nalioth
[05:31] <nalioth> apokryphos: Tm_T
[05:32] <Tm_T> well thank you sir :)
[05:32] <nalioth> apokryphos: what did you do now?
[05:33] <apokryphos> nalioth: don't question my authowitee
[05:33] <apokryphos> mm, food
[05:33] <Tm_T> apokryphos: you and authowitee in same sentence, err
[05:35] <jenda> Seveas: now tell me if I can cloak pschulz
[06:30] <apokryphos> NotAmaranth: very inconspicuous ;)
[06:31] <NotAmaranth> hey, not wearing the cloak ;)
[06:33] <apokryphos> it's in the wash?
[06:37] <jenda> Seveas: I'm now waiting for your ack with pschulz01 and newz2000
[08:57] <atoponce> apparently, i was banned from #ubuntu-locoteams. not sure why. any ideas?
[08:57] <atoponce> just noticed it
[08:59] <Amaranth> --- #ubuntu-locoteams Banlist: Sun Mar 18 22:36:55 *!*@oalug/member/atoponce Seveas!n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas
[08:59] <jenda> yep
[08:59] <jenda> Seveas?
[08:59] <Amaranth> you were banned 4 days ago by Seveas
[08:59] <atoponce> how come?
[08:59] <Amaranth> need to talk to him
[09:00] <Seveas> channelpinging perhaps?
[09:00] <Seveas> I have an auto-ban on that
[09:00] <atoponce> ahh. probably a /ctcp version maybe?
[09:00] <Amaranth> Ubugtu isn't in there so there is no way to know for sure
[09:00] <Seveas> could be
[09:00] <Seveas> all CTCPs sent to the channel are highly annoying
[09:00] <atoponce> understood
[09:00] <Amaranth> wait, you autoban for channel ctcp?
[09:00] <Amaranth> that's tempting ;)
[09:01] <Seveas> I do
[09:01] <Seveas> and for channel notices
[09:01] <jenda> atoponce: never do it again... unbanned ;)
[09:01] <Amaranth> i should try it out ;)
[09:01] <Tm_T> Amaranth: IMO it should be warning and ban, but 90 % of time people doesn't listen so ban is ok
[09:01] <Seveas> jenda, I was still checking logs...
[09:01] <jenda> Seveas: ah
[09:02] <Seveas> hmm, the actual offense of course isn't logged :/
[09:02] <jenda> Seveas: seemed unprobable to be a ban that should stay.
[09:02] <Seveas> just that it was for channelpinging :)
[09:02] <atoponce> i was curious what IRC clients people were using
[09:02] <Seveas> jenda, yeah
[09:02] <Tm_T> atoponce: ask then
[09:02] <atoponce> Tm_T: :)
[09:02] <Seveas> Amaranth, feel free to try in here :)
[09:02] <jenda> atoponce: Curiosity killed the cat ;)
[09:03] <Seveas> heh
[09:03] <atoponce> i wasn't aware /ctcp was offensive, but not a problem. i agree that they are annoying when abused
[09:03] <LjL> tempted
[09:03] <jenda> pretty much anything is annoying when done en masse...
[09:03] <Amaranth> :D
[09:04] <atoponce> jenda: agreed
[09:04] <jenda> Seveas: huh? You _un_banned him after that? ;)
[09:04] <Amaranth> man i need that script
[09:04] <Amaranth> although i guess you're nearly everywhere i am where i could use it
[09:04] <Seveas> jenda, that was manually :p
[09:04] <Amaranth> o_O
[09:05] <jenda> Seveas: the ban or the unban? :)
[09:05] <Tm_T> =)
[09:05] <LjL> jenda: hm, the ban would only be set by the first coming, i believe
[09:05] <Seveas> jenda, un
[09:05] <LjL> at least, if i set a ban and then set the *same* ban again, i get nothing on my screen the second time
[09:05] <Seveas> Amaranth, please try again, some small fixes :)
[09:05] <Amaranth> random: if everything works out ok compiz could have cube enabled by default in ubuntu :)
[09:05] <LjL> (though the same doesn't work for *unbans*. not sure if it's a client "feature" or a server one, though)
[09:05] <LjL> but yeah, they'd all get opped still
[09:06] <jenda> heh
[09:06] <Amaranth> alright, gotta go
[09:06] <jenda> LjL: yes
[09:06] <Amaranth> interview
[09:07] <jenda> Thanks for all the fish: http://fotky.cxl.cz/gallery/?india/P1010722.JPG#heading
[09:07] <jenda> One picture from my trip to india :)
[09:08] <ikonia> jenda whats that rug thing
[09:08] <jenda> a ishing net, I presume
[09:08] <jenda> +f
[09:08] <LjL> it forwards to ishing?
[09:08] <ikonia> looks like a strange rug
[09:08] <jenda> LjL: ;)
[09:08] <atoponce> jenda: thx for the unban, and Seveas, thx for the heads up on /ctcp
[09:09] <jenda> It's rough loose linen, and you see it's purpose right there ;)
[09:10] <jenda> :)
[09:10] <jenda> This is how you take a bus in India: http://fotky.cxl.cz/gallery/?india/P1010567.JPG#heading
[09:10] <jenda> And this is how you can safely work on a tall building: http://fotky.cxl.cz/gallery/?india/P1010540.JPG#heading
[09:10] <jenda> (yes, the scaffolding is wooden)
[09:25] <ubotu> In ubotu, dyrne said: hate is the only thing that keeps me warm at night.
[09:33] <LjL> PriceChild: thanks, but i'm happy now. i've got a troll to cook :P
[09:33] <LjL> aaaah called me by first name
[09:33] <PriceChild> hehe
[09:33] <LjL> im sure i know who that is
[09:35] <Seveas> LjL, bon appetit
[09:35] <LjL> nah, he just left
[09:35] <LjL> pity i mistyped the kick command, at least that'd have left a trace in the tracker
[09:35] <GazzaK> troll cooking, cool
[09:35] <Seveas> jenda, that bus looks like an amsterdam tram
[09:36] <GazzaK> the wiring scares me
[09:36] <LjL> does it run on rails?
[09:36] <Seveas> those are just as crowded
[09:36] <GazzaK> Seveas, not seen you in #ubuntu-uk lately :-)
[09:36] <Amaranth> woo, i got a job
[09:36] <Seveas> GazzaK, not going back in there with you as op :p
[09:37] <GazzaK> why not?
[09:37] <Amaranth> if they don't let me go to spain i'll lose a job
[09:37] <GazzaK> why would they not let you go?
[09:37] <Seveas> Amaranth, if you're good at sysadmining, I have a job for you :)
[09:37] <Amaranth> hehe
[09:37] <Amaranth> I can be a very effective BOFH ;)
[09:37] <GazzaK> I've been offered a bit of a change to my job
[09:38] <GazzaK> Seveas, I'm a sysadmin
[09:38] <Seveas> GazzaK, if you ever want a job in NL you're more than welcome
[09:38] <Amaranth> Not sure I'd want to work with Seveas though ;)
[09:38] <Seveas> the local gay bar (50 meters from the office) is where we usually hang out after (or during) work ;)
[09:38] <GazzaK> I'd like to, that is scarylry tempting
[09:39] <GazzaK> eeek, I canna spell
[09:39] <GazzaK> Seveas, what OS?  sadly I'm a windows based sysadmin
[09:39] <Seveas> GazzaK, we need those as well (until I migrate all to Ubuntu)
[09:40] <GazzaK> if this change around at my current job is not fun, i'd like to look into that a lot more Seveas
[09:40] <GazzaK> they want me to work mid week in Birmingham (the bottom of the UK)
[09:41] <Seveas> GazzaK, let me know if you want to know more
[09:41] <GazzaK> Monday as normal in Colchester, then Tue morning drive up to Brum, tue pm work in brum, hotel, wed work in brum, hotel, thur am work, thur pm drive home, fri as normal
[09:42] <GazzaK> I am not sure if it'd be a pain or fun yet
[09:42] <GazzaK> Seveas, if you have any details, can you email me?
[09:42] <Seveas> GazzaK, I can even tell them in public on the odd chance others are listening
[09:43] <GazzaK> okay, if you don't mind using this channel, i'm all ears (well eyes)
[09:44] <Seveas> GazzaK, the company is booking.com, europes largest hotel reservation website -- 500 employees of which 275 (and more daily) people are based in Amsterdam. Most use windows machines, but there are plans for an Ubuntu pilot. Windows sysadmin would be responsible for (re)installing windows (using Ubuntu!!) and maintaing the systems. There is no windows server admin involved (that's all redhat/centos).
[09:44] <PriceChild> GazzaK, birmingham.... bottom of the uk? :)
[09:45] <Seveas> you'd be doing helpdesk a lot as well as cisco ip phone support
[09:45] <GazzaK> Seveas, that actually sounds great
[09:45] <GazzaK> eeek, helldesk
[09:45] <Seveas> and have a good chance to learn linux sysadmin when the ubuntu pilot happens
[09:45] <Seveas> helldesk is not that bad actually
[09:45] <GazzaK> yeah, thats what I like the sound of
[09:46] <GazzaK> the learning linux sysadmin bit
[09:46] <Seveas> due to big firewalls and server based antivirus, most bad stuff stays out
[09:46] <LjL> except that which is already in
[09:46] <LjL> like Win32.Seveas
[09:46] <GazzaK> Seveas, would I need to know Dutch?
[09:46] <Seveas> no
[09:46] <GazzaK> phew
[09:46] <Seveas> company language is english, we have people from lots of countries
[09:46] <GazzaK> as I barely know german and I lived there for 11 years
[09:46] <Seveas> if you look at booking.com, you see it's translated into many languages
[09:47] <Seveas> most translators work in amsterdam
[09:47] <GazzaK> Seveas, I'm in for looking at this a lot more seriously
[09:47] <LjL> you're all supposed to speak english? wow. that would be totally impossible here, even if it was the biggest english-speaking multinational doing it
[09:47] <Seveas> GazzaK, bad news is: we don't help you move to holland and finding a place is not easy
[09:48] <Seveas> LjL, I speak dutch with the dutchmen and english with the rest
[09:48] <GazzaK> yeah, damn, but I do know someone who lives there, almost in the centre of amsterdam
[09:48] <Seveas> nice
[09:48] <Seveas> this is also in the centr of amsterdam (just in front of the rijksmuseum)
[09:48] <GazzaK> but his place is small, and I'd need to find digs in the end
[09:48] <GazzaK> whats the pay like?
[09:48] <LjL> Seveas: certainly, but i assure you it would be quite impossible to have several employees from various countries who do *not* speak italian in any company located in italy
[09:49] <LjL> they'd just all not communicate
[09:49] <GazzaK> LjL, thats the same as most countries in the EU as well, NL is different though
[09:49] <Seveas> LjL, we (both the company and the dutch) are not that unilingual :)
[09:49] <LjL> i envy you
[09:50] <GazzaK> I loved my time in NL, it's a lovely place and the people are mostly really nice
[09:50] <LjL> well, well now...
[09:50] <Seveas> and you liked the marihuana
[09:50] <GazzaK> Seveas, well I think I did
[09:50] <GazzaK> it was quite a weekend
[09:50] <Seveas> heh
[09:51] <GazzaK> the week was a lot more sober, and that was nice
[09:52] <GazzaK> Seveas, count me in, I'd seriously consider it, as I've been wanting to escape from the UK for a bit, but keep my UK status, so a EU place of work is required
[09:55] <LjL> [tongue in cheek comment removed] 
[09:56] <GazzaK> LjL, go on say it :p
[09:56] <LjL> it'd be offtopic in -offtopic, but it involves the british and their attitude towards the EU :P
[09:56] <nalioth> it's the GazzaK!
[09:56] <Seveas> GazzaK, my english is failing me: what's the english word for the letter you send to a company to apply for a job?
[09:56] <GazzaK> application letter
[09:56] <Burgwork> Seveas: a resume or a cover letter?
[09:56] <nalioth> resume
[09:56] <Seveas> GazzaK, gah... that simple.. :)
[09:56] <GazzaK> CV
[09:56] <Seveas> no, not resume
[09:56] <LjL> that's latin though :P
[09:56] <Burgwork> cover letter talks about why you want the job, resume is a list of your experience
[09:56] <Seveas> you send that along with the letter :p
[09:56] <nalioth> a cover letter is what you send as the 1st page of a faxed document
[09:57] <Burgwork> cv is a resume
[09:57] <Seveas> Curicculum Vitae
[09:57] <LjL> two R's, one C
[09:57] <Burgwork> that is a CV or a resume
[09:57] <GazzaK> so it'd be a application letter with enclosed CV then
[09:57] <Burgwork> no, a cover letter with a resume/cv
[09:57] <nalioth> since when do geeks send cover letters, CVs and resumes?
[09:58] <GazzaK> nalioth, hehe
[09:58] <GazzaK> I've always had to
[09:58] <LjL> they type them in XML
[09:58] <LjL> on a mechanical typewriter
[09:59] <GazzaK> saly all my jobs have so far been interviewed with a non geek, so xml etc would not go down too well
[09:59] <GazzaK> s/saly/sadly
[10:00] <PriceChild> Should GazzaK sign it with ink or gpg?
[10:00] <nalioth> gpg on his mechanical typewriter
[10:01] <GazzaK> PriceChild, don't click the X :p
[10:02] <Seveas> GazzaK, pm
[10:02] <LjL> hm, the following will take a while and not be in the least impressive, so i'll do it...
[10:03] <Seveas> LjL, you're going to shave your legs?
[10:03] <LjL> ew, no
[10:03] <LjL> argh, no # on my typewriter >:
[10:13] <LjL> bah, no can do, OCR packages for linux suck
[10:13] <LjL>  PRIVDSG hbNnCN-ops :his esae ',,ES typed on. a
[10:13] <LjL>  rnechanical typeriter nd scnned, then, sent ia telne
[10:13] <LjL>  afRr parsing by gOCR
[10:22] <LjL> i have still to start experimenting with IRC over cordless phones using morse
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> LjL: wait, why are you using a typewriter for IRC?
[10:30] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: you have missed it.
[10:30] <LjL> tonyyarusso: [22:02:44]  <LjL> hm, the following will take a while and not be in the least impressive, so i'll do it...
[10:30] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: either check your scroll back or crawl back under your rock
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> aaah
[10:30] <LjL> pity i couldn't get at least PRIVMSG #ubuntu-ops to OCR correctly
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: I can't find my rock - my room's a disaster
[10:31] <LjL> if i could, i could at least actually have sent it from nc or telnet
[10:38] <thoreauputic> tip for those who want to go prematurely grey - try setting up 3d with an nvidia card on a sis card with a legacy onboard video  ... much google-fu is required
[10:39] <thoreauputic> .... I now have even less hair of any colour, but 2000 + FPS :)
[10:39] <nalioth> thoreauputic: too late, i was gray at the ripe olde age of 24
[10:39] <thoreauputic> nalioth: heh
[10:40] <thoreauputic> nalioth: 3d is kind of cool, but I'm not sure that I need it really
[10:40] <nalioth> i rarely need three of anything, actually
[10:40] <thoreauputic> hah
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Should I try putting Beryl on the PIIs I'm putting Dapper on for a charity?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> well, zooming around in virtual space is fun, but the main benefit of my new card is snappier desktop performance
[10:42] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: depends on the video card I guess :) My advice: probably not ;-)
[10:42] <nalioth> thoreauputic: this was your third what?
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: ati rage pro, I think
[10:43] <thoreauputic> nalioth: misreading of abbreviation or deliberate obtuseness ? ;-)
[10:44] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: I got an nvidia because I heard othing but horror stories about ATI !
[10:44] <thoreauputic> s/othing/nothing
[10:45] <nalioth>  abbreviated obtusenosity?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> nalioth: extenuating disobtuseity owing to verbose neologism - you get points for that
[10:57] <thoreauputic> '-)
 thoreauputic: Should I try putting Beryl on the PIIs I'm putting Dapper on for a charity? <- no you shouldnt
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> :P
[10:58] <thoreauputic> heh
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser: As if I'm not putting myself through enough to get them the way I want already
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: hey, I now have 2000+ FPS and am $89 poorer ...
[11:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso, dapper on p2=ouch. i havent +beryl on any, but i shudder to think what its like
[11:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, 'good work'? ;)
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm starting from Xubuntu, and customizing ubuntu-[server,desktop,minimal]  to what I think is important
[11:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, is OO.o @ 2000fps any more usable then at <whatever i get>?
[11:01] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: actually it seems a bit snappier, and it starts faster
[11:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso, oh right. add debfoster to the list :)
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser: that could be arranged
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: but that may also or mainly be because I now have an extra 32MB RAM ( was shared onboard vid RAM)
[11:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, cool. with the amount of ram i have the .00001 seconds from video increase isnt really noticeable ;)
[11:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso, i'm trying to get it on itshares computers as standard (wont happen until we start doing custom install images though)
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser: any tips you've learned about custom install images?
[11:03] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: I have 512 MB RAM now ( well, minus the kernel stack about 504 )
[11:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, i have 2532MB RAM
[11:04] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: woohoo !
[11:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso, we used mondo (using a patched version of mondo, dappers version ships nagware)
[11:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso, i dont remember any tricks off the top of my head, most of what i remember is 'forgot to include that' thoughts
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser: I looked at that, but when I found out it was tailored to experienced users it didn't sound as good, since eventually this won't be my work
[11:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso, its (imo) easy to use, i can write you instructions in 30 seconds
[11:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi ompaul
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser: Well, it needs to be adaptable to various hard drive sizes
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> That was a sticking poing
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> t
[11:07] <ompaul> evenink!
[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was under the impression it can handle different drive sizes/busses/raid or not (i havent tried myself though)
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> It can - you have to manually specify their sizes though
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> It doesn't just adapt like "use 30% for this, 55% for this, and the rest for the other part"
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah right.
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> i had standard 20 gig drives in all systems i did
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, this involves "any random HD someone donates" - they range from 2 gig to 80.
[11:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> well thanks for warning me - i might not use it, since the other systems i have are 'any random hd somone donats'
[11:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought it was more flexible then that
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> I'm thinking a customized install CD with detailed preseed instead
[11:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> not keen on that idea myself - we use ubuntu to avoid doing just that
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> I'm still open to suggestions
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> having had my plan (mondo) put into a corner, i'm going to have to find some sugestions :)
[11:30] <xyr> Ah
[11:30] <xyr> Voice in yet another channel!
[11:30] <nalioth> xyr: perhaps it's your exalted position
[11:30] <xyr> Of?
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> wikimedia contributor, obviously
[11:31] <Seveas> xyr, or chanserv really likes you and wants you to kiss him
[11:31] <xyr> lol
[11:31] <GazzaK> xyr, it's the freenode staff bit :p
[11:31] <xyr> GazzaK, sssh stop spoiling i t:P
[11:31] <nalioth> we were almost able to get him to kiss chanserv
[11:32] <Seveas> GazzaK, try th other bot
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> GazzaK, get a room :P
[11:32] <Seveas> they're both boys
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> oh, nvm then
[11:32] <GazzaK> thats the one \o/
[11:32] <xyr> Well, bedtime.
[11:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> Does Canonical publish a list of employees by contact area / department?  (ie, shipit, press relations, HR, etc.)
[12:01] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: I don't know of a list but that stuff is often scattered over the site
[12:01] <apokryphos> like http://www.ubuntu.com/news/mediacontact
[12:02] <apokryphos> which also demonstrates how the site's not completely finished just yet =)
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: ty
[12:04] <GazzaK> it's a right mess