[12:01] <eternaljoy> billy: my sound worked perfect before.  the only prob I had was I needed to reboot 2-3 times before sound worked
[12:01] <eternaljoy> crimsun: so where do I add that?
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> rhys: unfortunately that true, and personally, i think the distros they sell at the store(linspire and Mandriva), are absolutely awful, but if you find Xandros, its not bad
[12:01] <Askar>  l90bpm: Clone settings..?
[12:01] <crimsun> eternaljoy: don't add it yet; you need to test it first.
[12:01] <eternaljoy> crimsun: options snd-hda-intel model=3stack-660 ?
[12:01] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok
[12:01] <crimsun> eternaljoy: yes
[12:02] <l90bpm> what are 90% of all windoze users doing?   torrents and p2p..   just make some hella 3rd party editions.. they will come..  like a flock of sheep
[12:02] <eternaljoy> crimsun: so what I do next?
[12:02] <rhys> IndyGunFreak, noone knows what those are either. What ubuntu needs, any distro, is massive marketing. Codings great, and for distros like mine, zenwalk.
[12:02] <l90bpm> and up them on the torrents
[12:02] <eternaljoy> crimsun: how do I test it first?
[12:02] <puff> Slart: Yeah, it's a seagate hard drive inside.
[12:02] <fghj> connecting a new computer; power switch is green/white; one is pos, one is neg -- how do I figure out which is which?
[12:02] <crimsun> eternaljoy: if you want, you can use the options line. I would have recommended modprobe -r snd-hda-intel ; modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack-660
[12:02] <kbrooks> rhys, can I sell ubuntu? :P
[12:02] <rhys> its enough. on the other hand, for any company or organization like ubuntu or suse. YOU NEED MARKETING.
[12:02] <Slart> l90bpm: hehe.. and when they've downloaded all the games.. what will they do next? go back to windows to  play them? =)
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> rhys: thing is, Marketing costs $$,
[12:03] <eternaljoy> crimsun: im confused with your last styatement. pls explain
[12:03] <variant> fghj: ask in #hardware
[12:03] <Slart> puff: it worked when you used the other usb-slot?
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> so then they have to charge for the OS, which makes it lose its appeal to a lot of people
[12:03] <rhys> billboards, tv spots, competing -DIRECTLY- against microsoft. as it is, i dont think anyone but suse can do that.
[12:03] <l90bpm> not much of a gamer myself
[12:03] <eternaljoy> crimsun: where do I place: modprobe -r snd-hda-intel ; modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack-660 ?
[12:03] <l90bpm> I play an occasional one
[12:03] <l90bpm> bout' it
[12:03] <crimsun> eternaljoy: ``sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel ; sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack-660''
[12:03] <rhys> IndyGunFreak, your right. and thats why M$ is great today, for marketing. not the product. business and marketing.
[12:03] <crimsun> eternaljoy: just copy and paste it into a terminal
[12:03] <eternaljoy> crimsun: shall I type that now?
[12:03] <rhys> To compete with m$, you must work on their terms. Ubuntu needs a marketing division
[12:04] <crimsun> Ubuntu _has_ a marketing team.
[12:04] <eternaljoy> crimsun: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[12:04] <crimsun> eternaljoy: quit/kill whatever's using it.
[12:04] <Slart> l90bpm: mm.. I do that too.. but those same people won't be satisfied with wine that plays some of the games.. (and only some of those games work without tweaking wine, adding dlls and such).. they won't like it at all =)
[12:04] <eternaljoy> crimsun: nothing is open
[12:04] <crimsun> eternaljoy: verified with lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer*  ?
[12:04] <eternaljoy> crimsun: i only have xchat, terminal open
[12:04] <variant> rhys: god forbid, like mozilla marketing division.. anything but _please_ anyway, this is #ubuntu-offtopic chat
[12:04] <l90bpm> now that OS's are almost 300 bucks they might...
[12:05] <am_rods> my ubuntu does not load
[12:05] <rhys> yea well. untill they get big, ubuntu marketing will never be able to compete. it sucks, users for the most part are stupid, but to get users, you have to compete with the big money corporations.
[12:05] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11408/
[12:05] <billy> eternaljoy: hope everything gets working right.  sorry I hosed your system.
[12:05] <l90bpm> I just got a new laptop about 2-3 months back.. cheap #@$@!#$! didn't even give me an oem disc
[12:05] <l90bpm> had to make my own
[12:05] <variant> !offopic | rhys
[12:05] <eternaljoy> crimsun: COMMAND    PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME mixer_app 5120 lisa   17u   CHR   14,0      8128 /dev/mixer
[12:05] <crimsun> eternaljoy: kill 5120
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <variant> !offtopic | rhys
[12:05] <ubotu> rhys: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:06] <eternaljoy> billy: its not what you do that counts, in the intent beghind it. and your intention were good.  ty anyway
[12:06] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok
[12:06] <rhys> variant, whatever. im done. i dont need the classic debian bs about OSS support talk about $DISTRO only!. talk is talk. eh.
[12:06] <eternaljoy> crimsun: it now says a new audio playback deviced detected
[12:06] <eternaljoy> crimsun: then the window dissapeared
[12:06] <Askar>  l90bpm: ?
[12:07] <l90bpm> what ?
[12:07] <l90bpm> I missed it Askar
[12:07] <eternaljoy> crimsun: now what do I do?
[12:07] <crimsun> eternaljoy: after you executed the kill command, execute the modprobe commands from earlier
[12:07] <eternaljoy> crimsun: i then typed:  sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel ; sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack-660
[12:07] <l90bpm> did you need somethging?
[12:07] <l90bpm> something*
[12:07] <eternaljoy> crimsun: it then says a new audio playback deviced detected
[12:07] <eternaljoy> crimsun: then the window dissapeared
[12:08] <eternaljoy> crimsun: what I do next?
[12:08] <am_rods> when i turn my computer on it starts loading ubuntu, but when the loading bar fills my display stays blank. i have to turn my computer off manually (pressing the on/off button for several seconds), and then i turn it on again and it starts ubuntu normally. i have to do this procedure every time i want to use my computer and i am afraid it might damage my hardware. i have a thinkpad t22 with 900 processor and 512 ram.
[12:08] <crimsun> eternaljoy: aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav
[12:08] <eternaljoy> crimsun: and the speaker icon dissapreared from my taskbar
[12:08] <crimsun> eternaljoy: right, you can always readd the mixer applet.
[12:09] <eternaljoy> crimsun: i dont hear anything
[12:09] <Askar> l90bpm: "l90bpm: Askar, what about when you coose "Clone" settings?"
[12:09] <Askar> What did you mean?
[12:09] <erichj> yakitrfiqiynwfhhtcoctvdwwpbtkaotspyae (you are kindly invited to refrain from introducting questions into your narrative without first having had the courtesy of consulting the valid documentation which was provided by the kind author of the software package you are employing)
[12:09] <crimsun> eternaljoy: ``amixer'' output pastebinned, please
[12:09] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok
[12:09] <puff> Hm, looks like these drives are formated ntfs, is that probably the source of the problem?
[12:09] <l90bpm> thought it might be a quick fix for what you are trying to do
[12:09] <eternaljoy> crimsun: amixer: Mixer default load error: Invalid argument
[12:09] <l90bpm> ati or nvidia?
[12:09] <l90bpm> do you have a display manager?
[12:09] <najzao> how to make nvidia driver works??? i have black screen!!!
[12:09] <Askar>  l90bpm: intel integrated..
[12:09] <Slart> am_rods: I have the same problem.. my computer starts about 50% of the times that I press the button.. half of the time it just dies.. screen freezes.. caps-lock does nothing.. ctrl-alt-del does nothing.. hard reboot is only thing that work
[12:10] <l90bpm> mine does, that was the only I got it right..  took about 20 minutes though..
[12:10] <eternaljoy> crimsun: doesnt seem to work when I type amixer
[12:10] <am_rods> Slart: what ubuntu version you have?
[12:10] <Askar>  l90bpm: display manager?
[12:10] <Slart> am_rods: luckily I don't reboot that often.. so I can live with it.. but my computer is a stationary desktop... I run Ubuntu 64bit, 6.10
[12:10] <l90bpm> can't am_rods just reinstall grub? or no? I'm just asking cuz I don't know
[12:11] <najzao> how to fix nvidia driver on my laptop GF 6100 go.. my screen goes black when i turn on nvidia instead of nv in xorg.conf
[12:11] <l90bpm> yeah ASkar, no display manager?
[12:11] <LordLimecat> i think i see how automatix screws things up.....but im confused as to why apt is acting how it is....
[12:11] <kromix> lol just installed ubuntu for the first time, and xchat for the first time on it, where is the channel users list ?? i dont see an option for it hah
[12:11] <am_rods> l90bpm: how do i do that and would it solve my problem?
[12:11] <eternaljoy> crimsun: and there is now no speaker icon on my toolbar after I typed kill 5120
[12:11] <l90bpm> not sure am_rods
[12:11] <Slart> kromix: click the "1046 Users" in lower left corner
[12:11] <eternaljoy> crimsun: do I need to reboot?
[12:11] <crimsun> eternaljoy: just readd the mixer applet
[12:11] <l90bpm> just wondered it myself when you said that
[12:11] <am_rods> :S
[12:11] <LordLimecat> i originally installed like 2-3 things with automatix--frostwire, and a few others...frostwire is no longer available from automatix, tho the updates attempt to go from there
[12:11] <eternaljoy> crimsun: read the mixer applet?
[12:12] <crimsun> eternaljoy: forget it, don't readd it, as you'll just need to kill it again
[12:12] <am_rods> is there an official ubuntu supporter in here?
[12:12] <cycom> How's Core 2 Duo support in ubuntu, kernel-wise?
[12:12] <Slart> LordLimecat: automatix is .. well.. frowned upon..
[12:12] <eternaljoy> crimsun: so what I need to do now pls?
[12:12] <Slart> !automatix
[12:12] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:12] <Askar>  l90bpm: no...how do I get one?
[12:12] <LordLimecat> Slart: im aware of this.  I want to understand WHAT is happening
[12:12] <l90bpm> not sure cuz mine came w/ one..  but I bet there's a way Askar
[12:13] <LordLimecat> i mean, what...problem would cause an update to attempt to go to the wrong source?
[12:13] <billy> cycom:  from what I understand, .19 supports it OK, but .20 supports it fully.  .20 will be available in Feisty.
[12:13] <crimsun> eternaljoy: cat /proc/asound/cards  (pastebin)
[12:13] <Slart> LordLimecat: sorry.. can't help you there.. I installed azureus using automatix.. it still works.. but I haven't used it sinec
[12:13] <Slart> *since
[12:13] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok
[12:13] <l90bpm> I'm a n00b like you guys..  I just live in here now and look up what goes wrong on everyone elses machine so I'll know
[12:13] <LordLimecat> Slart: alright...its not important, ill just remove and reinstall from normal repos
[12:13] <l90bpm> I'm only right 10% of the time.. lol
[12:14] <LordLimecat> automatix ISNT a bad starting point IMO, if only as a way to find out what packages are good
[12:14] <eternaljoy> crimsun:  0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel   HDA Intel at 0xfebfc000 irq 169
[12:14] <etronik> Hi all, having trouble with line drawing characters in Midnight commander under putty (win XP) connected to Ubuntu, anybody help ?
[12:14] <arieanie> hello
[12:14] <LordLimecat> i never would have found frostwire if not for automatix :D
[12:14] <LjL> LordLimecat: like, to find out that the automatix package is not among the good?
[12:14] <l90bpm> reading wileys ubuntu bible when it slows down
[12:14] <LordLimecat> to find out that the packages exist
[12:14] <l90bpm> and reading the various wiki's from state to state
[12:14] <crimsun> eternaljoy: ok, and ``amixer -c0'' ?
[12:14] <LordLimecat> its a good sample of what is out there
[12:14] <crimsun> eternaljoy: don't paste in here
[12:14] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok
[12:15] <Slart> etronik: I think you can config putty to show the right characters.. I don't know how though but I don't think it's a ubuntu problem
[12:15] <eternaljoy> crimsun: amixer: Mixer hw:0 load error: Invalid argument
[12:15] <LjL> LordLimecat: then just make a list of good things that are out there - no need for a magic script to achieve that, is there
[12:15] <cycom> billy: .20 is out, isn't it?
[12:15] <Moniker42> how do i edit pdfs in ubuntu?
[12:15] <LordLimecat> lol, what about envy?  THATS part of what i dont get
[12:15] <LordLimecat> people dont bash the envy script
[12:15] <l90bpm> doing the linux cram
[12:15] <arieanie> trying to use airoscript with ubuntu can u help?
[12:15] <LordLimecat> whats so bad about automation?
[12:15] <Slart> Moniker42: I don't think you do =/
[12:16] <Moniker42> Slart, no =(
[12:16] <crimsun> eternaljoy: can you try from a fresh boot after changing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base?
[12:16] <Slart> Moniker42: at least I've never seen a pdf-editor for linux
[12:16] <Moniker42> surely there'll be a hack somehwere
[12:16] <Moniker42> *somewhere...
[12:16] <l90bpm> envy was unstable on my machine, crdlb helped me out in effects to get the other nvidia driver and it's worked great ever since
[12:16] <eternaljoy> crimsun: what did I need to change in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base?
[12:16] <Moniker42> i do apologise Slart
[12:16] <regress> I would like to update to amarok 1.4.5, can I just install a .deb?
[12:16] <etronik> Slart: I search for info on it but is highly complicated with terminfo and termcap and tic, etc, etc i though this might be a common issue...
[12:16] <LordLimecat> Moniker42: have you tried adobe thru wine?  or what about a foxit product
[12:16] <Moniker42> i didn't google my question before asking
[12:16] <eternaljoy> crimsun: you mean add; options snd-hda-intel model=3stack-660  AND reboot?
[12:16] <Slart> Moniker42: a pdf in general isn't that easy to edit..
[12:16] <regress> or shold I use the Kubuntu package?
[12:17] <l90bpm> but that was just my machine.. can't speak for everyone
[12:17] <Moniker42> LordLimecat, Slart http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/11/editing-pdfs-in-ubuntu/
[12:17] <Askar> How do I join mpg.001, mpg.002 etc files in ubuntu
[12:17] <Askar> ?
[12:17] <efface> how do i access a nforce raid drive with windows on it from linux?
[12:17] <LordLimecat> whats with the phrase 'pseudo postscript editor'
[12:17] <LordLimecat> does it edit or not o.0
[12:17] <l90bpm> there are pdf editors in synaptic
[12:17] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok I added options snd-hda-intel model=3stack-660 and now rebooting
[12:18] <cycom> hrm. ok. thank you.
[12:18] <Slart> Moniker42: ah.. ok.. yes.. that's a pdf editor.. but it wont work like your average word-processor
[12:18] <l90bpm> saw it less than two hours ago.. was gonna grab it and decided to wait till I actually needed it
[12:18] <najzao> can somebodz tell me is it possible to make airgo wlan adapter to work in ubuntu?
[12:19] <efface> how do i access a nforce raid drive with windows on it from linux?
[12:19] <nn531> how do you change title bars without getting beryl or changing themes
[12:19] <Slart> Moniker42, LordLimecat: I think it's pseudo editor because you can add or change little parts.. you can't for example add a word to a line anc expect it to change linebreaks etc
[12:19] <Moniker42> oh
[12:19] <Moniker42> well i just want to fill in a form and print it off anyway
[12:19] <l90bpm> you can right click on them and do a lil
[12:19] <najzao> and how to make this damn nvidia driver... it alwazs show black screen
[12:19] <Slart> Moniker42: that it might do
[12:19] <l90bpm> I made man mostly transparent and changed them black
[12:20] <Xenguy> !nvidia > najzao
[12:20] <emcay> does anyone know of a wireless network card that will work a little then the linksys (WMP56gs) I have. I cannot get it to work with ndiswrapper/
[12:20] <efface> how do i access a nforce4 raid drive with windows on it from linux?
[12:21] <najzao> i cant get settings cuz i cant use nvidia driver
[12:21] <Megaqwerty> Ubuntu suddenly stopped mounting /dev/sda5 (FAT) on startup. Any ideas?
[12:21] <Moniker42> Slart, it doesn't appear to be working =(
[12:21] <najzao> it just gives me black screen
[12:21] <crdlb> emcay, anything with an intel, ralink, or orinco chipset
[12:21] <Slart> Moniker42: oh? some kind of error? or it just didn't do what you wanted?
[12:21] <nn531> how do you change title bars without getting beryl or changing themes
[12:21] <crdlb> emcay, atheros works to but it can be a bit of a pain
[12:21] <crdlb> too*
[12:21] <Moniker42> i tried to open the file and it just does nothing
[12:21] <Megaqwerty> Also: I can't write to it after doing "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/sda5"
[12:21] <l90bpm> brb
[12:22] <Moniker42> well........ the mouse changes to the loading icon when i hover over the window ;)
[12:22] <Slart> Moniker42: hmm.. I'll give it a try.. what was the package called?
[12:22] <Megaqwerty> If I'm not root. And as root, I can't chown it to myself
[12:22] <Moniker42> flpsed
[12:22] <Moniker42> it's in the repos
[12:22] <Moniker42> just apt-get
[12:22] <LordLimecat> is frostwire in the default repos?
[12:22] <etronik> is anybody coonected to Ubuntu through putty under XP having line drawing chars problem ??
[12:22] <Slart> Moniker42: installing.. brb
[12:23] <crdlb> !info frostwire
[12:23] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:23] <LordLimecat> whoah o.0
[12:23] <LordLimecat> thats nifty
[12:23] <LordLimecat> thanks
[12:23] <Andromalius> Is the automatix key and update server down?
[12:23] <LordLimecat> !info msttcorefonts
[12:23] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[12:23] <crdlb> LordLimecat, you can /msg the bot too
[12:24] <Moniker42> Slart, looks like there's a thread on the forums for editing pdfs that's been ongoing since the middle of 2005
[12:24] <Moniker42> the last post was 5 hours ago :)
[12:24] <Slart> Moniker42: long long threads.. I'm just about to try it
[12:24] <najzao> how to fix black screen after instaling nvidia drivers
[12:25] <goetiaoccultus> what is good software to blog to my blogger account ?
[12:25] <l90bpm> and all I can get him to say is
[12:25] <l90bpm> !paste
[12:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:25] <l90bpm> lol
[12:25] <keex> hello
[12:25] <kuroaisu> exit
[12:25] <am_rods> please anyone help me
[12:25] <am_rods> when i turn my computer on it starts loading ubuntu, but when the loading bar fills my display stays blank. i have to turn my computer off manually (pressing the on/off button for several seconds), and then i turn it on again and it starts ubuntu normally. i have to do this procedure every time i want to use my computer and i am afraid it might damage my hardware. i have a thinkpad t22 with 900 processor and 512 ram.
[12:26] <Slart> Moniker42: worked fine here.. I could open, edit, save ..
[12:26] <Moniker42> oh well
[12:26] <Moniker42> aha!
[12:26] <Moniker42> now we're talking!
[12:26] <Moniker42> http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/edgy/3v1n0/pdfedit_0.2.5-0+3v1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[12:26] <keex> I can't remember to have ever set a default gnome keyring passphrase... but now I'm being asked about it...
[12:26] <Moniker42> pdfedit works poifectly
[12:26] <Zenerek> i have a question about ram, how much memory should ubuntu take up?, watching the monitor gaim itself is jacking 24 mb
[12:26] <eternaljoy> crimsun: no sound still.  And now the speaker icon from toolbar is not there anymore.  Any other advice pls?
[12:27] <|Amon|> how do i set gkrellm so it'll run everytime gnome starts up on my user account?
[12:27] <eternaljoy> crimsun: and when I type  amixer -c0  it says: amixer: Mixer hw:0 load error: Invalid argument
[12:27] <lycangodofwar> is there anyway to add a local radio station to amarok
[12:27] <colbert> how do I find out which version of Beryl I'm using ?
[12:28] <crdlb> lycangodofwar, do they have a stream?
[12:28] <lycangodofwar> yea
[12:28] <bruenig> colbert, did you install it via apt, if so apt-cache show beryl | grep Version
[12:28] <eternaljoy> crimsun: should I remove all sound drivers, cards etc, and have Edgy load everything as it was when I first installed it?
[12:28] <crdlb> lycangodofwar, I don't know if amarok supports wma streams though
[12:29] <lycangodofwar> what about podcast they have that to
[12:29] <eternaljoy> can anyone help me get my sound back please?
[12:29] <crimsun> eternaljoy: replace 3stack-660 with auto
[12:29] <colbert> bruenig: thanks
[12:29] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok ill try that brb
[12:29] <crdlb> lycangodofwar, that should work
[12:29] <lycangodofwar> k thanks
[12:29] <|Amon|> ?
[12:29] <eternaljoy> crimsun: its now: options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[12:29] <eternaljoy> crimsun:  rreboot?
[12:29] <kandinski> mzscheme on eft won't work or deinstall: dpkg: error processing mzscheme (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[12:29] <kandinski> any idea on how to fix it?
[12:30] <eternaljoy> crimsun: how do I get my speaker icon back on toolbar?
[12:30] <bruenig> kandinski, you can look at the preremoval script and see what the problem is
[12:30] <keex> how do I unlock the (my own) gnome keymanager?
[12:30] <Moniker42> Slart, well...
[12:30] <Moniker42> i think this may be the buggiest software i've ever used
[12:30] <Moniker42> you know.... aside from windows of course ;)
[12:30] <Slart> Moniker42: was it all you've dreams it would be? =)
[12:30] <Slart> *dreamt
[12:30] <eternaljoy> crimsun: does this look right? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11410/
[12:31] <Moniker42> i just want to add some text into already defined boxes damnit!
[12:31] <Moniker42> bah. time for my macgyveresque computing skills
[12:31] <Moniker42> screenshots and the gimp!
[12:31] <bruenig> kandinski, what is the name of the package?
[12:31] <emcay> what about a wireless adapter (USB), anyone try those
[12:31] <Slart> Moniker42: the gimp opens pdf's.. but only the first page.. and as a image
[12:31] <|Amon|> isnt there ~.xinit for ubuntu?
[12:32] <Moniker42> oh
[12:32] <Slart> Moniker42: I'm almost starting to think gimp is the best pdf editor out there =)
[12:32] <barbarella> eternaljoy:what is the problem?
[12:32] <romeo> anyone have anyidea why my fan is constatly going very high? i got a laptop, acer spire 5024.. my cpu frequency keeps dropping fom 1800 to 800mhz
[12:33] <Stormx2> Hey folks, what package can I install to get enlightenment?
[12:33] <jrib> |Amon|: ~/.xinit?  sure if you create it
[12:33] <biggie> does anyone know what printk: 609 messages suppressed means
[12:33] <eternaljoy> barbarella: well sound worked perfectly but not all times I loaded Edgy.  So now today I was adviced to complile salsa drivers etc and NOW no sound :(
[12:33] <eternaljoy> barbarella:  any advice?
[12:33] <bruenig> Stormx2, enlightenment
[12:33] <Slart> Stormx2: isn't there an elightment package? use apt-cache to search
[12:33] <jrib> |Amon|: what do you want to do?
[12:33] <eternaljoy> seems crimsun left
[12:33] <|Amon|> setup superkaramba or gkrellm2 to autoload
[12:33] <Stormx2> Bleh.
[12:33] <Zenerek> is ubuntu supposed to always be taking up 120 + ram on a fresh boot up?
[12:34] <crimsun> eternaljoy: I'm at work and therefore busy.
[12:34] <jrib> !startup | |Amon|
[12:34] <ubotu> |Amon|: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[12:34] <eternaljoy> barbarella: and now my speaker icon dissapeared too
[12:34] <biggie> I keep getting kicked out of ktorrent
[12:34] <_emet_> Zenerek: cool, mine is at 860 MB usage :D
[12:34] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok ty anyway.
[12:34] <bruenig> Zenerek, probably not that much, but I found gnome consumed a bit more than I liked
[12:34] <Stormx2> Just looking at this screenshot - http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mpdwiki7ds.png It looks very nice, but what DE is it?
[12:34] <eternaljoy> crimsun: do i need to reinstall edgy now?
[12:34] <Slart> Zenerek: linux is funny with memory.. get used to it =)
[12:34] <Moniker42> looks like it can open two pages as well
[12:34] <eternaljoy> crimsun: i s[pent 3 weeks setting it up :(
[12:34] <Moniker42> if you just enter the number of pages in the box as you open it
[12:34] <barbarella> eternaljoy:no audio with your tv card?
[12:34] <crimsun> eternaljoy: no, did you try my latest suggestion?
[12:34] <_emet_> gnome takes like 850-900 MB RAM according to Linux
[12:34] <eternaljoy> barbarella: LOL
[12:34] <_emet_> for me
[12:34] <_emet_> lol
[12:34] <Stormx2> _emet_: Not for me...
[12:35] <Slart> Moniker42: ah... didn't know that
[12:35] <eternaljoy> crimsun: im goign  to reboot with =auto now
[12:35] <eternaljoy> brb
[12:35] <Zenerek> wtf 860? what heck are you running over there?
[12:35] <eilker> we have rent a vps server (ubuntu installed)  http://ourip works at moment but http://www.ourdomain.com is not working, our hosting company is different from where we bought domain, what to do now ?
[12:35] <_emet_> I think it's the cache
[12:35] <_emet_> taking most of it
[12:35] <Moniker42> so there it is people... the Gimp is for some reason the only pdf editor that WORKS! :P
[12:35] <Moniker42> an _image_ manipulation program ;)
[12:35] <bruenig> who edits pdf
[12:35] <_emet_> linux often uses as much memory as it can
[12:35] <biggie> anybody can help me with why ktorrent keeps kicking me out
[12:35] <Moniker42> biggie, me too
[12:35] <Slart> Zenerek: ubuntu uses memory until it runs out.. for cache. buffers.. everything.. what good is memory if you're not using it, right?
[12:35] <Moniker42> i assume it's a major bug they plan to fix
[12:35] <biggie> moniker has this started recently
[12:36] <kandinski> bruenig: mzscheme
[12:36] <Moniker42> you running 2.1.2?
[12:36] <Stormx2> I'm running at just under 400mb RAM. Thats with XChat, Terminals, Gedit, LIRC, MPD, Sonata, iPodder, Nautilus, K3B, Firefox.
[12:36] <ptrbee> hello
[12:36] <biggie> yea
[12:36] <Slart> Zenerek: it will release the memory if it's needed.
[12:36] <Moniker42> biggie, yea, it has for me
[12:36] <Moniker42> revert to 2.1.1
[12:36] <kandinski> bruenig: probelm is with stopping the web server
[12:36] <|Amon|> anyone here running conky under gnome? when i run it its stuck in the bottom left hand corner...
[12:36] <Moniker42> that's what i'm going to do when i remember how to uninstall packages
[12:36] <Moniker42> it's slipped my mind ;)
[12:36] <biggie> last night and today it has kicked me out
[12:36] <bruenig> kandinski, I thought you said the problem was with uninstalling
[12:36] <_emet_> Stormx2: yeah right now I'm using 212 MB RAM, and 620 MB cache
[12:36] <kandinski> yes
[12:36] <ptrbee> can anyone help me with accessing a vista share
[12:36] <biggie> i checked my syslog and it seems there might be a memory problem
[12:36] <_emet_> 620 MB RAM used for cache I mean
[12:36] <bruenig> dang that is one big package
[12:37] <ericrost> how can I reinstall the stock alsa drivers that came with ubuntu edgy? I compiled the newer alsa from source, and it didn't fix my problem, I uninstalled it, now gnome won't start
[12:37] <kandinski> bruenig: it doesn't uninstall because it fails there: Stopping web server: mzserver ... start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/lib/plt/bin/mzscheme: No such file or directory (No such file or directory)
[12:37] <kandinski> failed
[12:37] <kandinski> invoke-rc.d: initscript mzscheme, action top" failed.
[12:37] <Zenerek> well in my time with windows jacking that much memory was a bad sign, i always  had a memory manager running
[12:37] <biggie> moniker - when did it start for you
[12:37] <eternaljoy> crimsun: no sound :(  and after your preiovus command, the speaker icon no longer appears either.  What shall I do now?
[12:37] <ghetek> guys stupid question... i want to move all the files and folders in my current directory to one directory back.
[12:37] <ghetek> im in shell now
[12:38] <ghetek> mv * ../ ?
[12:38] <_emet_> Zenerek: see if your apps and stuff open fast and are responsive
[12:38] <_emet_> that's all that matters
[12:38] <ericrost> anyone?
[12:38] <Nullbyte> yep, ghetek
[12:38] <crimsun> eternaljoy: try yet another model.
[12:38] <eternaljoy> crimsun: nother model??
[12:38] <efface> whats the package to apt-get for OSS
[12:38] <eternaljoy> crimsun: what you mean?
[12:38] <Slart> Zenerek: don't worry.. I have 2 Gb mem installed.. linux uses it all.. and I have gnome and x-chat running.. =)
[12:38] <biggie> what is causing the ktorrent problem
[12:38] <biggie> was there a kernel upgrade within the last 3 or 4 days anyone
[12:38] <jrib> ghetek: yes, except that will miss hidden files
[12:39] <ghetek> that sok
[12:39] <_emet_> biggie: yes
[12:39] <Dame> !3
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <ghetek> thanks!
[12:39] <mikewdhd> WOW! Thanks everyone! The group pushed me to finding out how to install WPA support and I just downloaded the Network Manager. EVERYTHING JUST WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAH!
[12:39] <Dame> !mp3
[12:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:39] <Zenerek> took 7 seconds to launch opera
[12:39] <cb__> could anyone tell me how i need to setup smb4k so that i can access files on my linux computer from my windows computer?
[12:39] <_emet_> ubuntu specific kernel upgrade
[12:39] <efface> whats the package to apt-get for OSS
[12:39] <eternaljoy> crimsun: do I need to reinstall edgy now?
[12:39] <_emet_> as far as I know 2.6.20 is still the latest kernel
[12:39] <crimsun> eternaljoy: geez, can you please be patient?
[12:39] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok
[12:39] <ericrost> how can I get the alsa drivers that came with the ubuntu install back without wiping and reinstalling?
[12:39] <biggie> is that why i am having problems with memory
[12:40] <bruenig> kandinski, looking at the prerm script, it appears that if you did, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/mzscheme and then tried to remove it, it would work
[12:40] <crimsun> ericrost: apt-get -d install linux-image-$(uname -r) && rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound && apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[12:41] <Netboy541> hello folks
[12:41] <octoberdan> I just finished compiling and installing kernel 2.6.20, but when I reboot my comp hangs at "Waiting for root file system." I googled around an discovered several threads started by people with the same problem. However, in their case they had SATA hard drives (hence the problem) I do not. I've followed the directions given by helpful people across the internet, but still can't reboot.
[12:41] <Kassah> hi, I've got a couple of new LCDs... they are using the old VGA plug... but is it normal to see shadowing of text and icons?
[12:41] <kandinski> bruenig: thanks
[12:41] <Netboy541> i'm having a moment here, and i need to change something in modprobe, and can't remember where it is...
[12:41] <Netboy541> the config file i mean.
[12:41] <bruenig> kandinski, oh wow, kind of didn't expect that to work
[12:41] <kandinski> bruenig is this something I should report as a bug?
[12:41] <kandinski> oh, I haven't tried it yet
[12:41] <Maximander> anyone know how to get upnp and shorewall to work/
[12:41] <octoberdan> I've run into this problem before, but have never solved it. Each time I try, I just end up running out of time and booting into my old kernel
[12:41] <cables_> I'm testing Ubuntu on my friend's machine, is there any way to restore Vista's bootloader after removing Ubuntu's partitions?
[12:42] <jr3us> kassah: are you running the LCDs at their native resolution? I have had probes with 'blurry' image/text when not running native resolution.
[12:42] <kandinski> it did work
[12:42] <kandinski> haha
[12:42] <kandinski> you rock
[12:42] <bruenig> kandinski, I don't know anything about that package. If you think it is a bug then report it.
[12:42] <Slart> cables_: I think you might have to do that using the vista install cd
[12:42] <robert_> gah
[12:42] <robert_> brb
[12:42] <cables_> Slart, any guide for it?
[12:43] <gengid> need information on network deployment
[12:43] <octoberdan> Anyone know what's going on with me? I'm desprate
[12:43] <Kassah> jr3us: their running at 1680x1050... which is the resolution that's on the front of the box
[12:43] <Zenerek> the reason i ask these question is,this is not my #1 system,this is a testbed for linux my first experiance, i have laptop a dell, and when it starts win98 jacks about 64-66 ram, that's half my ram, i want to install ubuntu on it
[12:43] <gengid> msg me
[12:43] <arieanie_> can someone point me to some how-to's to run airoscript.sh on ubuntu?
[12:43] <biggie> has anyone had memory problems or problems with programs quitting since the kernel upgrade a few days ago
[12:43] <Slart> cables_: you're asking the wrong people here =).. if you wanted to restore the ubuntu boot loader we might have been able to help..  =)
[12:43] <eternaljoy> my sound studded up and wont work!  how can I totally remove all sound drivers?  anyone tell me please?   Im going to remove everything an start again
[12:43] <ericrost> how can I bring up my eth0 that I had disabled under network manager (since my wireless isn't up) I'm previously a gentoo'er so I'm used to dhcpcd
[12:43] <jr3us> that is only thing i know... though i have sometimes had to 'mess' with xorg with my 1440x900 19" widescreen
[12:44] <crimsun> eternaljoy: if you can sit still instead of complaining...
[12:44] <jr3us> what video chipset?
[12:44] <Schuenemann> hey, I'm having problems to access my pendrive
[12:44] <eternaljoy> crimsun: pls understand, i been here for 2.5 hours now.  but ill wait, thank you
[12:44] <Schuenemann> it is mounted, but I can't record or delete files... and there are some very weird files
[12:44] <crimsun> eternaljoy: and I've been triaging for nearly four years. Please be patient.
[12:45] <Kassah> jr3us: NV34... GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
[12:45] <blackguy_chillin> Ubantu
[12:45] <bruenig> Schuenemann, what is it formatted as
[12:45] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok thanks
[12:45] <Schuenemann> bruenig, vfat
[12:45] <bruenig> Schuenemann, oh, should work then
[12:45] <nraic> Has the Azureus package been fixed yet?
[12:45] <blackguy_chillin> nraic: use utorrent
[12:45] <biggie> can anyone help me with why i am suddenly having memory problems
[12:45] <bruenig> nraic, have you seen any updates?
[12:45] <jr3us> kassah: interesting... don't know any other ideas..
[12:45] <Kassah> hmm... It
[12:46] <Schuenemann> bruenig, I just used it once and recorded some files... now I have this problem. There are some strange 0byte files called ??
[12:46] <Hor|zon> lol blackguy_chillin, stupid idea
[12:46] <Kassah> it's not bad enough to really affect anything... but my next upgrade is a video card anyway
[12:46] <nraic> Balckguy_chillin, utorrent doesnt seem to be liking my port forward
[12:46] <bruenig> Schuenemann, no clue
[12:46] <nraic> getting very bad speed
[12:46] <barbarella> eternaljoy:what soundcard you have?
[12:46] <crimsun> eternaljoy: test these models: 3stack-digout, 6stack-digout, 3stack
[12:46] <jr3us> how does it look on a diff monitor?
[12:46] <Schuenemann> bruenig, how do I format t?
[12:46] <efface> if i use oss
[12:46] <arieanie_> can someone point me to some how-to's to run airoscript.sh on ubuntu?
[12:46] <bruenig> Schuenemann, I don't know, you might be able to format it in gparted
[12:47] <aSt3raL> arieanie_: make it executable and ./whatever.sh
[12:47] <bruenig> arieanie_,is this something you need root for or not
[12:47] <Zenerek> so do you guys think ubuntu will run good on a laptop with (I think) 120 or so mb?
[12:47] <AaronCampbell> Has anyone had any problems with either lite-on or asus DVD burners?  And does anyone know if I'd be able to use lightscribe (on an asus drive) on linux?
[12:47] <bruenig> Zenerek, xubuntu
[12:47] <Slart> Zenerek: I would go with Xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[12:47] <arieanie_> don't know?
[12:47] <Zenerek> why?
[12:47] <bruenig> !xubuntu
[12:47] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:47] <Slart> Zenerek: gnome is kind of heavy for a computer with only 120mb memory
[12:48] <arieanie_> i've used it with bt2
[12:48] <Kassah> jr3us: the old monitor (a 17" CRT) had a similar problem... though it wasn't noticable because it was blurry to begin with
[12:48] <biggie> hey black guy chillin is something wrong with ktorrent or some of the other bittorent clients
[12:48] <emcay> would a USB wireless adapter would work well with linux
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> Zenerek: Xubuntu 6.10 really is a good distro for low memory/older hardware
[12:48] <bruenig> biggie, except that utorrent is greater than all of them
[12:48] <Zenerek> so it's less ram intensive
[12:48] <Slart> emcay: perhaps.. some brands work.. other brands don't.. check what chipset is used
[12:48] <Kassah> jr3us: proboly is the card... I gotta drop the new RAM in... and when I get the cash...  gonna get the latest and greatest nVidia card
[12:48] <jr3us> kassah: any other monitors to try?
[12:48] <Slart> Zenerek: ram ,cpu, everything
[12:49] <Zenerek> ok i'll look into it
[12:49] <Kassah> jr3us: that's it unfortunately =(
[12:49] <Kassah> jr3us: 2 of these LCDs and 2 of those old CRTs
[12:49] <jr3us> what brand is the lcd panel?
[12:49] <jr3us> both lcds do the same?
[12:49] <Kassah> yeah... both the same... both Acer AL2016W's
[12:49] <ericrost> how can I from the command line bring up eth0 and renew its dhcp claim?
[12:49] <jr3us> have an older video card to try?
[12:50] <jr3us> to verify before plunking cash down for a new one
[12:50] <timmbob> Hi! Where can I get books for devhelp from? I installed the packages devhelp and devhelp-common but i did not find any package wit ha book for glibc for example.
[12:50] <Slart> ericrost: ifup eth0
[12:50] <timmbob> Are there none in the repos?
[12:50] <Kassah> nope... but I just noticed that one monitor does it while the other doesn't
[12:50] <Slart> ericrost: or if it is up.. ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0
[12:50] <jr3us> thats a hint kassah
[12:50] <jr3us> :-)
[12:50] <Maximander> anyone know why firefox always has a zombie netstat child process?
[12:50] <jr3us> take one back!
[12:50] <eternaljoy> barbarella: no idea
[12:50] <chori> Anyone know If its possible to stream sound from laptop to ubuntu-server using bluetooth?
[12:50] <Kassah> the only difference is DVI (with VGA converter) vs. VGA
[12:51] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok brb
[12:51] <Kassah> I think I just need to find a card that has two DVI out's
[12:51] <jr3us> which workds better?
[12:51] <Kassah> the DVI
[12:51] <fatlip> what repos do i need to upgrade to fiesty via apt-get
[12:51] <Kassah> which is odd... it's downconverting to VGA from DVI...
[12:51] <jr3us> what refresh rate?
[12:52] <nraic> I cant find utorrent in package manager, is it called something else?
[12:52] <fghj> i ned to play with ati 1950X gpgpu; what is best utunbutu distro to use?
[12:52] <jr3us> see maybe if that changes things
[12:52] <fghj> edgeY/
[12:52] <fghj> breezy>
[12:52] <fghj> dapper?
[12:52] <Slart> nraic: utorrent is a windows app
[12:52] <Kassah> monitor shows H: 65KHz V: 60Hz on both
[12:52] <Slart> nraic: you'll have to run it under wine.. or use azureus or any of the other torrent clients
[12:52] <jrib> fatlip: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[12:52] <jr3us> pump up the vertical to maybe 70 or so...
[12:53] <bruenig> someone should package utorrent
[12:53] <biggie> hey black guy - you still there
[12:53] <nraic> Slart, Is there another good client, since azureus isnt working for x64 atm
[12:53] <jr3us> verify that your lcd panel will go higher frequency first..
[12:53] <Slart> bruenig: just download it.. it's what? 170kb? just one exe-file.. no big installs
[12:53] <jr3us> it should
[12:53] <l90bpm> have to run utor in wine..
[12:53] <bruenig> Slart, yeah I have it, I was just thinking that would be kind of neat
[12:53] <Slart> nraic: try to find another place to get azureus.. I'm running it on ubuntu 64bit 6.10
[12:54] <Kassah> jr3us: it's oddly lacking docs on that...
[12:54] <Slart> nraic: I didn't find any other client I liked..
[12:54] <l90bpm> everyone I've seen so far couldn't get it to run
[12:54] <nraic> Slart, thanks
[12:54] <matt____> what is the name of the plugin to install so i can burn mp4 files to audio disk in gnomebaker?
[12:54] <_emet_> nraic: ktorrent is pretty good I believe
[12:55] <l90bpm> gstreamer might not be it.. but it can't hurt
[12:55] <_emet_> you can also run utorrent in wine with great results
[12:55] <_emet_> should you choose
[12:55] <biggie> anyone know what "printk: 609 messages suppressed" means
[12:55] <Slart> l90bpm: when I used the repository version of azureus it just crashed.. I .. well.. I *ahem*.. used that other program.. the bad one.. *cough*automatix*cough*
[12:55] <matt____> nraic: i love azureus
[12:55] <Zenerek> i run utorrent from wine and works, though there are some errors is displays while downloding but i have noticed problems
[12:55] <l90bpm> I haven't tried yet.. I tried to help a guy get his running earlier.. he couldn't get
[12:55] <Kassah> jr3us: trying to figure out how to change the vert refresh
[12:55] <bruenig> it just blinks a bit
[12:56] <eternaljoy> crimsun: none of them worked!  so it looks like I need a new install and lose 4 weeks of work :(
[12:56] <nraic> _emet_, it doesnt seem to port forward, running so slow
[12:56] <bruenig> other than that, perfect
[12:56] <jr3us> you might do some searching on your particular monitor to see if can handle diff freqs... and push the frequency around if you can.. otherwise.. as you mentioned re the change.
[12:56] <Zenerek> i mean not noticed probs
[12:56] <nraic> matt____, i love it too
[12:56] <eternaljoy> crimsun: can I install Edgy on top of itself?
[12:56] <l90bpm> but he also didn't know how to port forward so it could have been in the settings
[12:56] <matt____> now the name of the plugin to burn mp4 files to audio disk in gnomebaker?
[12:56] <_emet_> !bittornado-gui
[12:56] <ubotu> bittornado-gui: bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.15-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 38 kB, installed size 232 kB
[12:57] <jr3us> change meaning the dvi and vga connector
[12:57] <_emet_> hmm
[12:57] <Slart> l90bpm: ah... if I have to talk another used through configurating his wireless router I think I might just run out into the woods screaming..
[12:57] <crimsun> eternaljoy: why would you need to reinstall? Just reinstall the older driver.
[12:57] <eternaljoy> crimsun: I can do that?
[12:57] <jr3us> hassah: you using ubuntu? or kubuntu?
[12:57] <eternaljoy> crimsun: how pls?
[12:57] <l90bpm> apart from port forwarding I wanted to ask, you have to uncheck "make a windoze firewall exception" rightsince it's in a VM
[12:57] <jr3us> kubuntu lets you tune the monitor settings easier
[12:57] <crimsun> eternaljoy: apt-get -d install linux-image-$(uname -r) && rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound && apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[12:58] <jr3us> ubu you have to go under the hood..........
[12:58] <eternaljoy> crimsun: i shouldnt have touched it. Having to reboot 3-4 times to get sound working wss beetter than this agony :P heh
[12:58] <mirra> hey..if I want to send out a few emails with very large recipient lists, do i need certain software, or could squrirelmail/postfix do it?
[12:58] <eternaljoy> crimsun: so I type:  sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-$(uname -r) && rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound && apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)  ?
[12:58] <bruenig> eternaljoy, you can even copy and paste it if you dare to do so
[12:58] <eternaljoy> bruenig: dare?
[12:58] <l90bpm> I'm a pro at port forwarding my stuff..  he kept getting a windoze firewall error
[12:58] <etronik> >	Line drawing chars all wrong in mc (Midnight commander) under windows XP putty connected to Ubuntu linux, tried to search bout the prob but was all cryptic, help appreaciated :^)
[12:58] <fatlip> The following packages have been kept back: kdelibs5 kdelibs5-dev
[12:58] <eternaljoy> bruenig: what you mean?
[12:58] <fatlip> i keep getting that same error
[12:58] <Kassah> jr3us: using ubuntu...
[12:59] <biggie> i have 384k of ram - anyone know why i might run out of memory causing ktorrent to shut down
[12:59] <l90bpm> oops.. I keep forgetting to backspace
[12:59] <biggie> running ubutu 6.06
[12:59] <l90bpm> sorry about that
[12:59] <eternaljoy> crimsun: i WOULD LOVE to go back how it was
[12:59] <jrib> eternaljoy: you need sudo before ach command tehre
[12:59] <Kassah> jr3us: gnome's change monitor res diddn't have any but 60hz
[12:59] <eternaljoy> crimsun: will that command do it?
[12:59] <eternaljoy> jrib: ok ty
[12:59] <jr3us> i have a 19" widescreen and ubuntu wouldnt set it without going under hood...
[01:00] <jr3us> one reason i did kubuntu
[01:00] <matt____> what is the name of the plugin for mp4/aac support for gnomebaker?
[01:00] <eternaljoy> jrib: my sound worked perfectly, but at times I needed to reboot edgy 2-3 times before it worked!  but then I was stupid and followed a guys intructioins and now sound dopesnt work at all :(  even if I reboot 20 times, nothing
[01:00] <bruenig> !repeat | matt____
[01:00] <bruenig> !repeat > matt____
[01:00] <bruenig> ubotu, tell matt____ about repeat
[01:00] <ubotu> matt____: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:00] <matt____> bruenig: got it.
[01:00] <JollyJester> Hello everyone, I fairly new to linux and I want to learn about the linux file system and bash commands, anyone know any good resources?
[01:00] <bruenig> !cli | JollyJester
[01:00] <ubotu> JollyJester: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:00] <jr3us> I wish that ubuntu had the system settings prog that kubuntu has
[01:01] <l90bpm> jr3us.. you like gnomebaker?
[01:01] <jrib> !fhs > JollyJester    (JollyJester, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:01] <jr3us> l90: only use k3b..
[01:01] <l90bpm> see, that's what everyone says
[01:01] <l90bpm> so it runs good in gnome I guess?
[01:02] <shigutso> _muelli_, remember me? from Avidemux, dvd:rip...
[01:02] <jr3us> I prefer the configuration in kubuntu(KDE)
[01:02] <l90bpm> I haven't needed to burn anything yet so I haven't grabbed a prog yet
[01:02] <arrenlex> l90bpm: Yep, k3b runs fine in gnome. And I'd also like to add that it owns all other burning software.
[01:02] <r4nge> when i edit "/etc/issue" how can i get it to take immediate effect for remote logins
[01:02] <JollyJester> thanks everyone
[01:02] <bruenig> yeah tricky k3b license
[01:02] <l90bpm> too bad slysoft don't have open source AnyDVD.. lol
[01:03] <bruenig> l90bpm, what is anydvd
[01:03] <l90bpm> www.slysoft.com
[01:03] <jr3us> bruenig: I am reading about K3b.. and it is under GPL..???
[01:03] <chainsawcarver> gaim messenger keeps crashing after about 2 mins chatting on msn any ideas why?
[01:03] <jr3us> thats tricky?
[01:03] <bruenig> jr3us, yeah disregard what I said
[01:03] <gtt> anyone got any pointers on adding a new wireless printer?
[01:03] <l90bpm> back up your *home movies
[01:04] <jr3us> lol
[01:04] <Kassah> jr3us: well for now I'm gonna have to give up on this... just realized I don't want to restart X with a 3 hour download almost done
[01:04] <biggie> i have 384 meg ram - running ubuntu 6.06 - ktorrent keeps quitting because of memory problems after an hour or to - anyone have any ideas
[01:04] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok after I typed: sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-$(uname -r) && rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound && apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)       What do I do then?
[01:04] <etronik> line drawing problem solved: info here: http://en.opensuse.org/Midnight_Commander/Tips#PuTTY_and_line_drawing
[01:04] <crimsun> eternaljoy: reboot?
[01:05] <jr3us> kassah:  agreed... dont know where else to send you for that...
[01:05] <eternaljoy> crimsun: ok brb
[01:05] <bruenig> crimsun, isn't that command missing some sudos
[01:05] <AngryElf> anyone here use bluefish?
[01:05] <l90bpm> a wireless printer sounds nice.. let me know if you can't get it..  I'll buy it off you.. lol
[01:05] <jenn> help, I'm using ubuntu command window and I need to set it up for connection.
[01:05] <Kassah> jr3us: well I think it's pretty certain at this point that it's a Vid card problem... the different outputs show that... something I'll fix in a couple of months
[01:06] <jenn> to internet
[01:06] <crimsun> bruenig: very much so.
[01:06] <bruenig> crimsun, I bet he didn't pick up on that.
[01:06] <ice-11> i am able to recover from a system standby but my virtual consoles are invisible. the system seems stable otherwise because i can get back into my x server fine. any ideas on how to fix the virtual console problem?
[01:07] <Frogzoo> ice-11: ati ?
[01:07] <eternaljoy> crimsun: that command didnt work!  even when using sudo, it says permission denied:  pls look at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11414/
[01:07] <gtt> i've seen posts where others say they got it to work
[01:07] <lasse> hi guys, im running ubuntu and installed KDE afterwards... but in KDE all text is huge ... abnormally big text size i've tried to change the font size in the system fonts and all that but it is in all programs
[01:07] <gtt> i guess i add it as a network printer, right?
[01:07] <ice-11> Frogzoo: Nvidia GeForce Go 7600/PCI/SSE2
[01:07] <crimsun> eternaljoy: you need sudo after all the '&&'
[01:07] <ice-11> Frogzoo: it's a laptop
[01:07] <crimsun> eternaljoy: after each, even
[01:08] <jenn> hello, why am I not connecting to envy through command prompt? I get ERROR 404.
[01:08] <gtt> might've just figured it out
[01:08] <Frogzoo> ice-11: curious - update your vid driver, maybe get one from their site might work
[01:08] <eternaljoy> crimsun: sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-$(uname -r) && sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound && sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r) ?
[01:08] <ice-11> Frogzoo: I have the latest driver :P
[01:08] <jr3us> I have a machine that is proving a little flakey... memtest shows no problem tho.. I am trying to stress it using boinc(seti), it takes the load over 2.0 ... gonna let it run over night on boinc (seti) ..  does that sound like a good stress test?
[01:08] <l90bpm> nehow do those communicate? bluetooth or wifi?
[01:09] <jr3us> it has 384 MB ram..
[01:09] <bonthegeek> i'm just curious in general, don't go through a lot of trouble here... but what is the problem with linux and all-in-one printers?  it's one of very few things that i've run across that hasn't improved.
[01:09] <addams> how can I tell if I suck or my hard drive sucks?
[01:09] <l90bpm> Ilol
[01:09] <l90bpm> if it's scsi it does
[01:10] <addams> installed vista and it crashed my system, so I installed ubuntu and then it crashed
[01:10] <l90bpm> if not..  well I dunno
[01:10] <addams> so then I wiped the HD clean, and installed ubuntu again, i'm praying my hell is over
[01:10] <l90bpm> addams pc had a DRM overload
[01:10] <addams> lol
[01:10] <l90bpm> It was all that DRM left over from Vista
[01:11] <l90bpm> :P
[01:11] <sittisal> addams: check your ram
[01:11] <Prez_> at the ubuntu site, whre would i see their release calendar?
[01:11] <jr3us> addams: and your CDDVD drive
[01:11] <addams> i have 4 gigs of ram
[01:11] <jr3us> prez... april.. and october..
[01:11] <l90bpm> doesn't Vista alter bios?  did you change it back if it did?
[01:12] <addams> I'll have to check into that
[01:12] <l90bpm> I may be wrong about that
[01:12] <jenn> when I try to use envy, I get 404 error. How can I fix this?
[01:12] <addams> My machine was running so cool before
[01:12] <eternaljoy> crimsun: after your last comment, still no sound.  And speaker icon is still not in toolbar either.  What now?
[01:12] <eternaljoy> crimsun: i thought my sound should come back and work as it used to after your last command.
[01:13] <eternaljoy> crimsun: what are my options now? :(
[01:13] <addams> guys, I know one of you work on automatix, what gives?
[01:13] <bruenig> !automatix | addams ha
[01:13] <ubotu> addams ha: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:13] <l90bpm> oh no
[01:13] <l90bpm> here it comes again
[01:13] <gtt> worked perfectly.
[01:13] <l90bpm> lmao
[01:13] <l90bpm> that poor bot
[01:13] <gtt> it was a lot easier than i was trying to make it.
[01:13] <bruenig> !botsnack
[01:13] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:13] <gtt> like most things in ubuntu...
[01:14] <addams> uboto told me off!
[01:14] <eternaljoy> it seems I will lose 4 weeks of work and need to reinstall Edgy to get my sound back :(  Can anyone pls tell me if I can install Edgy on top of where it is now, in same partition etc?
[01:14] <jtraub> eternaljoy, before changing any config files, just make backup :-)
[01:14] <l90bpm> lol
[01:14] <jr3us> ubotu jus warns about automatix!
[01:14] <l90bpm> !anything
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <eternaljoy> jtraub: you are not helping at all, no, not at all.  thats rubbing salt into my wound
[01:15] <jtraub> eternaljoy, whats wrong with your sound?
[01:15] <zaatar> Hey for some reason all windows that are opened don't come into focus (On beryl)
[01:15] <jenn> Envy is not working for me, I get error 404. Help
[01:15] <addams> is edgy a crappier version than dapper drake?
[01:15] <eternaljoy> jtraub: im sure you wouldnt smile if you lose 4 weeks of solid work
[01:15] <teclis> hello, I wanna change in evolution the first line in a reply, e.g. "someone wrotes on date/time:" Does anyone know, how this works?
[01:15] <redwyrm> what command do I use to change /etc/alternative settings?
[01:15] <eternaljoy> jtraub: it dissapeared when I was stupid enough to follow someones guidance earlier today
[01:15] <l90bpm> I tried to tell you all,
[01:16] <jtraub> eternaljoy, can you publish this guide?
[01:16] <eternaljoy> can someone tell me if I can install Edgy on same partition where Edgy is on now?
[01:16] <eternaljoy> jtraub: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[01:16] <eternaljoy> jtraub: that webpage broke it
[01:17] <l90bpm> tri-boot or overwrite?
[01:17] <eternaljoy> can someone tell me if I can install Edgy on same partition where Edgy is on now?
[01:17] <l90bpm> nanoo nanoo
[01:17] <shigutso> anybody here knows how to use AVIDEMUX to convert AVI Videos into 700MB-VCD VIdeos?
[01:17] <preaction> !repeat | eternaljoy
[01:17] <ubotu> eternaljoy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:17] <bruenig> shigutso, use devede
[01:18] <l90bpm> shigutso, you still haven't got that thing down to size?
[01:18] <GionnyBoss> eternaljoy: why don't you just backup your home dir and re-install all Edgy? And next time you install Edgy, create a /home partition, so if you will re-install it you will do it in a while
[01:19] <redwyrm> I figured out my question (update-alternatives)
[01:19] <addams> addams update: right now dapper drake is working great, he's updating, i hope the updates don't screw him up!!!!
[01:19] <eternaljoy> GionnyBoss: i said that. i need to reinstall Edgy as my sound wont work anymore
[01:19] <shigutso> l90bpm, no... :/
[01:19] <jtraub> eternaljoy, list /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file to me
[01:20] <shigutso> bruenig, is it REALLY going to work? because it does not exists here at Ubuntu repositories... and I will have to compile :/
[01:20] <eternaljoy> GionnyBoss: i have dual boot atm.  Grub set up dual boot with Edgy and Vista.  If I reinstall Edgy to same place its on now. will grub get confused when it installs again?
[01:20] <mhfs> hi guys ... since I got ubuntu to work minimally on my system ...I would like some tips to improve its look and feel .... suggestions?
[01:20] <l90bpm> see bruenig's comment shigutso?
[01:20] <eternaljoy> jtraub: ok
[01:20] <bruenig> shigutso, it does exist
[01:20] <bruenig> !info devede
[01:20] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[01:20] <addams> I think my hard drive is screwed up cause sometimes everything looks garbled but still tries to run
[01:20] <l90bpm> nm
[01:20] <eternaljoy> jtraub: bash: list: command not found
[01:20] <bruenig> shigutso, only in edgy though
[01:20] <shigutso> bruenig, l90bpm, well, I am using Dapper Drake :(
[01:20] <bruenig> shigutso, yeah then you will probably need to compile
[01:21] <l90bpm> so upgrade
[01:21] <shigutso> damn...
[01:21] <bruenig> shigutso, it works though, very well
[01:21] <jtraub> eternaljoy, no.. "sudo cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base"
[01:21] <l90bpm> takes a lil while.. but not too bad
[01:21] <eternaljoy> jtraub: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11416/
[01:21] <shigutso> well, gonna try anyway... thx bruenig, l90bpm
[01:21] <eternaljoy> jtraub: i been trying tog et sound back for 3 hours. if you have any new ideas before I lose 4 weeks of work, im greateful
[01:21] <l90bpm> no need to thank me..
[01:21] <jenn> help, I get ERROR 403: Forbidden when I try to update my graphic card drivers through envy!...
[01:21] <addams> wish me luck gentlemen
[01:21] <eternaljoy> jtraub: im open to anything new as im desparate not to lose edgy
[01:21] <Nullbyte> good luck, addams
[01:21] <JN_Coward> I am having trouble with SVN, auth seems to work fine but I get svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/td': 403 Forbidden
[01:21] <addams> I will or will not return
[01:22] <m1r> someone using LTSP ?
[01:22] <eternaljoy> jtraub: doing a reboot, br b in 1mins
[01:22] <l90bpm> jenn..  that question is more likely to get a good answer in #ubuntu-effects
[01:22] <bthornton> I'm running Dapper and wish to use HPLIP; however, I'm noticing that the most "recent" one in the Dapper repos is 0.9.7.  The HPLIP site is at 1.7.2 .  Would I screw things up by uninstalling the Dapper packages via Synaptic and using the "generic" HPLIP installer?
[01:23] <waxyfresh>  anybody use a  VIA Integrated UniChrome Pro IGP (K8N800) ?
[01:24] <yanger> i have a usb flash stick - when I stick it in windows, and when i umount it [the safely remove media icon button thingy]  the power goes off on the memory stick, when i stick it in ubuntu, and i want to unmount it, the light does not turn off when unmounting it.. is there a way to know if it's safe to unmount it?
[01:24] <bruenig> yanger, right click unmount
[01:25] <eternaljoy> crimsun: i didn another 2 reboots after you gave me your last command to go back to old drivers. and now I hear sound :)  but the sound is very low and the speaker icon sound level control is not in toolbar anymore.  How do I get that back please?
[01:26] <yanger> bruenig, the light stays on though...
[01:26] <terrysalmi> does anyone know a network server for the gnibbles game?
[01:26] <Nullbyte> Ha, that would be great
[01:26] <ajchace> found a broken on "help.ubuntu.com". who should that be reported to?
[01:27] <eternaljoy> does anyuone know how I can get back my speaker icon on toolbar?
[01:27] <terrysalmi> eternaljoy, right click on an empty part of the bar and click "add to panel" - it should be in the list
[01:27] <jrib> ajchace: what part of help.ubuntu.com?  If it's in the wiki part, just fix it :)
[01:27] <tjl30> Does anyone have Thoggen
[01:27] <ajchace> the link URL is "http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/"
[01:27] <l90bpm> lot's of cool stuff to add
[01:28] <romeo_> Question: I Just downloaded a DVD movie.. Now this dvd movie in WINDOWS, i usually use poweriso to MOUNT and than a player, and i play the directory that is mounted.. How is it done in linux?
[01:28] <eternaljoy> terrysalmi: no its not there
[01:28] <jtraub> eternaljoy, right click on deskbar and choose "Add on panel"
[01:29] <ajchace> jrib: the parent page is "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports"
[01:29] <eternaljoy> jtraub: i did that and i dont see any speaker icon to add
[01:29] <Xsylotte> question: how to install flash plugin for firefox 9 ?
[01:29] <Xsylotte> firefox 2
[01:29] <Xsylotte> :)
[01:29] <eugman> Is there a way I can make my computer sound some sort of alarm after a time? Sort of time a timer?
[01:29] <Xsylotte> couldn't find any working solution
[01:29] <arieanie_> trying to run airoscript.sh on ubuntu needs to root. how do i root it?
[01:29] <arieanie_> needs to be root
[01:29] <bxnp> yes kalarm eugman
[01:29] <jrib> ajchace: yep that's a wiki.  Which link is broken?
[01:29] <bruenig> arieanie_, sudo ./airoscript.sh
[01:30] <preaction> arieanie_: sudo ./airoscript.sh
[01:30] <jtraub> eternaljoy, search for volume control in System and Hardware section
[01:30] <LadyNikon> eugman: you could goto packages.ubuntu.com
[01:30] <pros1> can someone suggest a good irc client that can be run without X?
[01:30] <eternaljoy> jtraub: ok its added. but its at 100% but sound is very low
[01:30] <bxnp> or karm eugman
[01:30] <jrib> pros1: irssi
[01:30] <pros1> thank you
[01:30] <jtraub> eternaljoy, sudo alsamixer
[01:30] <ajchace> jrib: first link under the "Useful Links" section, titled "Backports Homepage"
[01:30] <arieanie_> thanx brb
[01:30] <bruenig> eugman, you can do something like, sleep 100 && totem whatever.mp3, to play an mp3 after 100 seconds
[01:30] <jharr> I'm upgrading a machine to 6.06LTS from 5.10 and I ran into a snag, pkg:udev has /sbin/vol_id and pkg:volumeid already has it, so dist-upgrade is bailing out. How do I work around this?
[01:31] <jtraub> eternaljoy, there you can control volume level too
[01:31] <Godofwar> hello all
[01:31] <Xsylotte> who can help me ? how to install flash 9 plugin for firefox 2 in edgy
[01:31] <eternaljoy> jtraub: sudo alsamixer says 100%
[01:31] <nyinge>  This "free" command is confusing.  How come it's showing that only about 25% of mem is free on the line "Mem:"?
[01:31] <eternaljoy> jtraub: it was a lot louder before
[01:32] <preaction> !flash | Xsylotte
[01:32] <ubotu> Xsylotte: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:32] <jrib> ajchace: hmm
[01:32] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:32] <michael117> nyinge: it's inaccurate because telling how much ram is used is difficult in linux
[01:32] <Xsylotte> !backports
[01:32] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:32] <tomas_> nyinge, linux uses most free ram for disk caching
[01:32] <nyinge> michael117<  i see .. no wonder
[01:33] <ant> anyone have success installing the artwiz fonts?
[01:33] <ajchace> jrib: it's not clear where that should point, or if it should be removed...
[01:33] <jtraub> eternaljoy, which command helped to bring your drivers back?
[01:33] <regress> how can I add more languages to my ubuntu post-installation?
[01:33] <nyinge> tomas_<  thanks tomas.. good to know
[01:33] <eternaljoy> jtraub: it was a magical command by crimsun
[01:33] <regress> I have english/japanese/chinese, but I would like to add spanish/korean
[01:33] <regress> can't figure out how to do it though
[01:33] <arieanie_> sudo: ./airoscript.sh: command not found
[01:33] <johnc> just upgrade dist from 6.06 to 6.10 now my nvidi wont work. It complains about nvidia module
[01:33] <eternaljoy> jtraub: sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-$(uname -r) && sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound && sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[01:33] <tomas_> so in reality you have probably loads of free ram as disk cache is freed whenever something needs more ram
[01:34] <michael117> nyinge: Yeah... often times libraries such as the gnome or kde ones are loaded and shared but it could count them separately or together whereas windows loads a separate library each time so it is easier to tell
[01:34] <Ajira2k> wow.  1023 users.  think someone can help me?
[01:34] <jtraub> eternaljoy, hm....
[01:34] <Nullbyte> No, we are busy helping everyone else except for you
[01:34] <Ajira2k> ;P
[01:34] <Nullbyte> :p
[01:34] <Nullbyte> Whats wrong?
[01:34] <michael117> yes... Nullbyte's right
[01:34] <predder> nyinge, do a "free -m" then look at the second line -/+ buffers/cache
[01:34] <michael117> I'm helping nyinge atm
[01:34] <eternaljoy> jtraub: it seems to have brought back my sound, after https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto stuffed up my sound
[01:34] <predder> that's how much memory is *actually* in use, the rest is just buffered stuff that can be ignored
[01:34] <arieanie_> airoscript.sh  Desktop  Examples  test.cap  test.txt
[01:34] <jrib> ajchace: they seem to have http://ubuntubackports.org/ but that's empty as well.  It may be a temporary issue.  But maybe you can contact one of the backports guys or their mailing list (lists.ubuntu.com)
[01:34] <Ajira2k> brand new oem sata drive.  first time i've used sata.  not being recognized when i try to install any OS on it.  I'd prefer ubuntu over all
[01:34] <eternaljoy> jtraub: seen that command before?
[01:35] <eternaljoy> crimsun: you there? :)
[01:35] <ajchace> jrib: thanks, will do
[01:35] <eternaljoy> crimsun: i want to thank you very much, I was about to wipe edgy and start again.  But your command brought abck my sound.
[01:35] <michael117> Ajira2k: It should be recognized as a SCSI drive
[01:35] <jtraub> eternaljoy, i understood this.
[01:35] <eternaljoy> crimsun: what exactly does this command do?  sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-$(uname -r) && sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound && sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)  ?
[01:35] <eV64> !dvd | romeo_
[01:35] <ubotu> romeo_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:36] <eternaljoy> jtraub: well explain it to me then
[01:36] <Xsylotte> Adobe currently provides the latest version of Flash for Linux x86 only. - amd64 ??
[01:36] <eternaljoy> jtraub: whats that command do exactly?
[01:36] <Ajira2k> michael117: i get a 'devices not found' when using gParted while running the liveCD, and during the install, nothing appears (when it's the sole drive plugged in)
[01:37] <michael117> Ajira2k: /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc... I don't actually have any experience with sata drives, but I think you might try to boot to SCSI if a HARD DRIVE option in bios doesn't work
[01:37] <regress> how can I add more languages to my ubuntu/gnome post-installation?
[01:37] <regress> I have english/japanese/chinese, but I would like to add spanish/korean
[01:37] <regress> can't figure out how to do it though
[01:37] <eternaljoy> jtraub: if you can xlppain that command, ill be impressed
[01:37] <jtraub> eternaljoy, it just reinstalls
[01:37] <michael117> regress: uhh... learn less languages?
[01:37] <eternaljoy> jtraub: resinatlss what?
[01:37] <regress> heh, one option I suppose
[01:37] <michael117> regress: Search synaptic
[01:37] <jtraub> eternaljoy, your old drivers.
[01:37] <eternaljoy> jtraub: old sound drivers?
[01:38] <regress> I have...but nothing in particular comes up
[01:38] <regress> maybe I need to add sources...
[01:38] <eternaljoy> jtraub: where are the old sound drivers stored?
[01:38] <jharr> D
[01:38] <jtraub> eternaljoy, default sound drivers, which come up with Edgy
[01:38] <regress> are the repositories split by languages?
[01:38] <jharr> err, wrong window :p
[01:38] <eternaljoy> jtraub: ok cool
[01:38] <Xsylotte> blah :(
[01:38] <michael117> regress: I know I added Polish some how
[01:38] <eternaljoy> jtraub: i was about to wipe edgy and start again! lukcly crimsun gave m,e that command
[01:38] <michael117> regress: Actually... I think you should try just looking for language packs or something of the sort
[01:38] <Ajira2k> michael117: there's no OS on it.  I'm not trying to boot to it, i just want to partition it and put one on first
[01:38] <eV64> !sound
[01:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:38] <ant> anyone have success install the artwiz fonts?
[01:38] <eternaljoy> brb breaking my fast, hence BreakFast :)
[01:39] <regress> via synaptic?
[01:39] <michael117> Ajira2k: Have you checked otherwise to be sure it is running and the BIOS sees it?
[01:39] <jtraub> eternaljoy, they were stored in the repos. This command downloads default edgy kernel(sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-$(uname -r)) and removes your new sound drivers (rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound)
[01:39] <greyking> Hello all
[01:39] <eV64> hi
[01:40] <Ajira2k> michael117: well, i know it's plugged in, and i've got the slots enabled in the BIOS, but when i check the list of drives in 'hard drive boot priority', nothing's there
[01:40] <eternaljoy> jtraub: ah ok! so it downloaded from internet and reinstalled them?
[01:40] <nyinge> predder<  yeah..  so that's a more accurate way of looking at how much my system is using?
[01:40] <jtraub> eternaljoy, yes
[01:40] <michael117> regress: Yes... I apologize for being so vague and not completely helpful but I'm kind of lazy at the moment and do not feel like searching... give me a sec and I'll look it up
[01:40] <Ajira2k> michael117: tried looking online, but all i could find was info on installing to a RAID, with 2 or more drives... stuff about SATA controllers that i don't know about either
[01:40] <shigutso> bruenig, 'devede' seems ok, but when i click Preview, the video is without subtitles and the image is very strange, distorted... :/
[01:40] <eternaljoy> crimsun: you are a star :) you saved me 4 weeks of work by fixing my sound back again the way it used to be. thanks a lot
[01:41] <eternaljoy> brb breaking my overnight fast, hence we get the word BreakFast :)
[01:41] <prospero999> any experienced irssi users out there?
[01:41] <bruenig> shigutso, well I have never previewed stuff, but it has always come out great for me
[01:41] <regress> ok...I searched synpatic..
[01:41] <predder> nyinge, yup. The rest of the memory it's using is just there to speed things up, it can easily be removed if another application requires more memory which is why you disregard it when working out your memory usage
[01:41] <addams> wow, so far so good, everything seems stable
[01:41] <michael117> Ajira2k: Usually the first option in the BIOS menu will bring you to this other screen with all the drives installed and recognized
[01:41] <predder> a GNU/Linux based operating system will use as much memory as is available to it typically to cache things
[01:41] <addams> guys, where can I get a codec to play flash ? I love youtube.
[01:41] <shigutso> bruenig, hmm gonna try then without preview... what sucks is that it takes more than an hour :P, but ok, thx
[01:42] <predder> addams, you can get the binary straight off the adobe/macromedia website
[01:42] <nyinge> predder<  ahh.. awesome..  *sigh*  now i can relax
[01:42] <bruenig> shigutso, well it will (or can) convert and create the cue or iso or whatever
[01:42] <jtraub> eternaljoy, rembmer about backup before editing any config
[01:42] <eternaljoy> jtraub: i got nowhere to back up to! i need a external HDD
[01:42] <addams> predder: thanks, flash was pretty much my only reason for wanting *utomatrix
[01:42] <Ajira2k> michael117: first screen = standard CMOS functions.  only has IDE drives listed.  SATA stuff is under 'integrated peripherals' and it's enabled, but not visible
[01:43] <naught101> anyone know how to choose between two media plugins for firefox (mplayer+totem) if you have both installed?
[01:43] <nraic> What are 64bit users ment to do about flash player?
[01:43] <michael117> Ajira2k: I would imagine that it would need to be listed at the first screen to be recognized like the other drives
[01:43] <dot> regress: have you tried googling it?
[01:43] <regress> yeah...there's a lot of noise though
[01:43] <_gpf_> beryl is such fun
[01:44] <jtraub> eternaljoy, just execute "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup" before editing /etc/fstab, for exanple
[01:44] <prospero999> anyone know how I can show multiple channels at once in irssi?
[01:44] <michael117> Ajira2k: what do you see when you run the live cd and type ls /dev/*da
[01:44] <regress> at one point I was trying to download individual packages from the ubuntu website...but it didn't work out
[01:44] <bimberi> !flash64 | nraic
[01:44] <ubotu> nraic: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:44] <dot> regress: why not?
[01:44] <michael117> regress: It is simpler than that, I know, but I just can't remember exactly how to do it
[01:45] <regress> synaptic doesn't have anything in it, it seems
[01:45] <Ajira2k> michael117: well i'm not using the live cd right now, i'm booted off an old IDE drive with linux on it.  i see /dev/hda, ptyda, sda, and ttyda
[01:45] <starz> jeez... seems that irssi is a pain to get setup
[01:45] <regress> I will check...I think there were numerous dependencies that didn't install...
[01:45] <starz> but i think i got it now :P
[01:45] <michael117> regress: What were the languages again?
[01:46] <_gpf_> I'm looking for some help with the Seveas repositories...  I think I have added them to sources.list correctly and added the gpg key...  but apt doesn't find the packages
[01:46] <regress> I would like to add spanish and korean
[01:46] <andrew_> Is there any way to change from OpenSUSE 10.2 to ubuntu easily without reinstalling the whole OS?
[01:46] <bimberi> _gpf_: 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:46] <naught101> !mozplugger
[01:46] <ubotu> mozplugger: Plugin allowing external viewers to be launched inside Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.3-2 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 192 kB
[01:46] <ibob63> can anyone recommend a file comparison program?
[01:46] <michael117> Ajira2k: The sda should be it, but you said it's blank so you should be able to just go fdisk /dev/sda and press "l" to verify that it's empty and you could use fdisk... a little bit ugly
[01:46] <jtraub> ibob63, diff
[01:46] <_gpf_> bimberi:  Did that.  Still no go.
[01:47] <regress> ah
[01:47] <bimberi> _gpf_: pastebin your sources.list
[01:47] <DaveG|> andrew_, i would say no
[01:47] <j1mc> hi all.  on the "securing debian page, one item on partitioning says, "Any directory tree which a user has write permissions to, such as e.g. /home, /tmp and /var/tmp/, should be on a separate partition. "  how big should /tmp and /var/tmp partitions be?
[01:47] <regress> maybe I found a post on the forum...I'll check
[01:47] <romeo_> !bluetooth
[01:47] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:47] <ibob63> jtraub: I was looking for something with a gui.
[01:47] <mjr> andrew_, no. You could install ubuntu with debootstrap and not the install program, but that would not be easy, and it'd still be a reinstall
[01:47] <jtraub> ibob63,xxdiff
[01:47] <harry_> How do I fix the DST on my computer?
[01:47] <ibob63> great . i 'll check it out
[01:47] <michael117> regress: sudo apt-get install language-pack-es-base
[01:47] <_gpf_> bimberi: pastebin?
[01:48] <andrew_> Is there a way I can install ubuntu without losing any custom programs I have in SUSE? Or just install withour formatting?
[01:48] <harry_> [it's currently an hour slow}
[01:48] <Ajira2k> michael117: fdisk -l /dev/sda, no output.  fdisk /dev/sda 'Unable to open /dev/sda'
[01:48] <prospero999> testing
[01:48] <bimberi> !pastebin | _gpf_
[01:48] <ubotu> _gpf_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:48] <waxyfresh> i want to make my windows transparant how can i do this?
[01:48] <dot> regress: Try searching for "language-support" in synaptic package manager.. (works for me)
[01:48] <michael117> regress: and language-pack-gnome-es-base
[01:49] <mjr> andrew_, you can install without formatting by setting the partitions up manually, but that's likely to leave extra crud on your drive
[01:49] <michael117> waxyfresh: beryl... www.beryl-project.org
[01:49] <DaveG|> andrew_, i guess you could install ubuntu on a different partition. but i think ubuntu is totally different to suse
[01:49] <|Amon|> added conky to system > prefs > sessions > startup and it starts up but then disappears when bg loads =|
[01:49] <_gpf_> bimberi: ok, you need the link now?
[01:49] <bimberi> _gpf_: yes please
[01:49] <michael117> regress: I typed in locale and many different ones came up in synaptic
[01:49] <_gpf_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11417/
[01:49] <waxyfresh> michael117: ive been aasking the beryl people if my graphics card suports beryl allday and ive been completly ignored
[01:49] <zach_> How can I have ubuntu open links in firefox32 instead of firefox?
[01:49] <regress> michael117: ah....local
[01:49] <regress> hehe
[01:50] <regress> locale
[01:50] <regress> I'll try that
[01:50] <j1mc> andrew_, there are also little config files in your home directory that might mess things up if you try and install ubuntu into a previous suse installation.
[01:50] <waxyfresh> michael117: for aboute 5 hours
[01:50] <michael117> regress: Sorry if I wasn't so direct with it
[01:50] <regress> language, korean, spanish....nothing relevat came up
[01:50] <Zewey> any Tomboy users/non-users, may i please direct your attention to this poll: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390286 ;)
[01:50] <regress> no, I really appreciate it
[01:50] <michael117> waxyfresh: There is tons of interest in beryl... just not in their channel :(
[01:50] <andrew_> waxyfresh: What card?
[01:50] <michael117> waxyfresh: What card?
[01:50] <michael117> lawl
[01:50] <Lahey> me. yo
[01:50] <andrew_> I win :P
[01:50] <waxyfresh> VIA Integrated UniChrome Pro IGP (K8N800) ?
[01:50] <andrew_> Probably not
[01:50] <Lahey> lahey yo
[01:50] <l90bpm> beryl and ubuntu-effects are two different channels
[01:50] <michael117> andrew_: he was mine first
[01:51] <_gpf_> waxyfresh:  i doubt it
[01:51] <waxyfresh> i was told it does tehni was told it dosent
[01:51] <l90bpm> did you try ubuntu effects?
[01:51] <michael117> waxyfresh: actually yes... there is a way
[01:51] <waxyfresh> !ubuntu effects
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <bimberi> _gpf_: hmm, looks fine. and you saw some 'seveas' in the output of 'apt-get update' ?
[01:51] <hossasaur> hi, i'm having some trouble setting up internet connection sharing as discussed here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370     eth0 is my xbox360 console, eth1 is my wireless card from which the internet connection is coming. i suppose my problem is in the ip, dns, gateway, though i have no idea how to change any of these things.  any help would be greatly appreciated!
[01:51] <_gpf_> bimberi:  yes i did, let me add that
[01:51] <l90bpm> #ubuntu-effects
[01:51] <Lahey> me.
[01:51] <l90bpm> oops
[01:51] <michael117> waxyfresh: type "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf| grep device" I believe
[01:51] <Lahey> ooops
[01:52] <l90bpm> !#ubuntu-effects
[01:52] <ubotu> For help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.
[01:52] <andrew_> well im going to attempt to install ubuntu
[01:52] <michael117> waxyfresh: actually, it's "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf| grep driver"
[01:52] <dot> !justask
[01:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:52] <michael117> waxyfresh: tell me what it says
[01:52] <hossasaur> oh yes, and i can currently access the internet from the wireless card, i am currently.  i just can't share the internet with my eth0 (xbox360 via crossover cable)
[01:52] <prospero999> ./quit
[01:52] <_gpf_> bimberi:  ok, i added the output from apt-get update to that link
[01:52] <michael117> Ajira2k: Hmm... sounds strange
[01:53] <RedRose> If I disown a process, is there anyway to "reown" the process, so that the output will be displayed somewhere?
[01:53] <greyking> Is it possible to set up a remote reverse command shell going to a windows computer from a linux computer?
[01:53] <am_rods> how can i change the font used in gnome?
[01:53] <michael117> Ajira2k: You still there?
[01:53] <_gpf_> i was surprised at how snappy beryl was on my P3/933 with GF MX4000
[01:53] <greyking> like, a command prompt
[01:54] <michael117> greyking: what do you mean reverse command shell? Do you want to connect from a windows machine to a linux box or get around a NAT?
[01:54] <waxyfresh> michael117: i cant get xorg to support my via drivers
[01:54] <waxyfresh> michael117: or rendering
[01:54] <_gpf_> bimberi:  Does the fact that I'm using amd64 have any impact?  The homepage said the amd64 arch is/was supported.
[01:54] <romeo_> there is a howto that tells me go to your ~/.icons directory.. What is the path to get there?
[01:54] <Godofwar> what's beryL?
[01:54] <michael117> !beryl
[01:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:55] <Dave_O`Tool> Is there a live cd version of this distro?
[01:55] <michael117> Godofwar: Go to youtube and search for beryl and you'll see
[01:55] <RedRose> !qemu
[01:55] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:55] <romeo_> Dave_O`Tool: Yes..
[01:55] <dot> how do you uninstall a program using the terminal?
[01:55] <_gpf_> Beryl >>>> Aero
[01:55] <crdlb> Dave_O`Tool, the standard desktop cd is a live cd
[01:55] <Ajira2k> michael117: yeah, just looking for options
[01:55] <michael117> dot: sudo apt-get remove blah
[01:55] <Zewey> dot: sudo aptitude remove, or purge to get rid of config files
[01:55] <bimberi> _gpf_: yes it does.  there will be no w32codecs package for example
[01:55] <l90bpm> so does gemu work better than wine?
[01:55] <greyking> Michael117: I want to get a command shell executing commands on a windows computer, from a linux computer.
[01:55] <Nergar> where can i get soemthing like norton ghost, easy to use and also copies MBR
[01:55] <Nergar> ??
[01:56] <_gpf_> bimberi:  hmm... is libdvdcss2-dev also not available with amd64?
[01:56] <michael117> greyking: Do you have sshd running on the linux box?
[01:56] <mirra> anyone here use mailman?
[01:56] <ubuntu> hello
[01:56] <dot> thanks
[01:56] <michael117> Nergal: tar does a pwn job as well as br or something
[01:56] <crdlb> _gpf_, why wouldn't it be? it's open sources, just patented
[01:56] <crdlb> sourced*
[01:56] <Drathorin> Hello
[01:56] <manton2007> I have a question about screen size.
[01:56] <am_rods> how do i change the default font used in gnome?
[01:57] <_gpf_> crdlb:  good question, i'm just saying i can't get it to install via Seveas repos
[01:57] <michael117> Nergal: tar does a pwn job as well as dr or something... it will do a bit by bit copy, forgot the name... anyone?
[01:57] <ferret_0568> Can I open tabs in Evince and/or open another window of the same PDF with it in Edgy?
[01:57] <omeil> am_rods, System-Reference-Font?
[01:57] <_gpf_> manton2007: i hear size doesn't matter
[01:57] <manton2007> how do I make the screen larger?
[01:57] <omeil> am_rods, System-Preference-Font?
[01:57] <henry_> hola
[01:57] <henry_> a que no me entienden
[01:57] <crdlb> _gpf_, afaik there's no reason why it shouldn't be available
[01:57] <ferret_0568> System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[01:57] <bimberi> _gpf_: not in that repo, going by the contents of http://seveas.imbrandon.com/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/
[01:57] <Drathorin> Um, I'm sorry to intrude, as it seems a bit of a busy time. .
[01:57] <Zewey> ferret_0568: there should be a "Open copy" option in File menu
[01:58] <michael117> manton2007: Well, you can buy a new one but making an existing screen larger may be kind of hard unless you are an experienced electrical engineer
[01:58] <michael117> :)
[01:58] <zach_> Drathorin: intrude away!
[01:58] <ferret_0568> There had better be
[01:58] <Drathorin> Thanks Zach :)
[01:58] <manton2007> Yes, but it only goes to 1024 by ... I need it bigger. There is an inch of black space around my screen.
[01:58] <_gpf_> bimberi:  indeed, looking at that list, amd64 is not available
[01:58] <Drathorin> I'm having a bit of a problem, I currently have 3 hard drives and am dual booting Ubuntu and Windows (I'm in the process of Switching)
[01:58] <michael117> Ajira2k: I have some sata ports on my mobo as well and I did a "ls /dev/*da" and no sda came up so it must mean that it only has that because it sees a drive there
[01:59] <Zewey> ferret_0568: i'm on Feisty, but since it sounds like a basic feature older versions ought to have it
[01:59] <lawl> long name list tbh
[01:59] <Drathorin> And. . A friend changed the GRUB boot order to the wrong drive . so now I can't boot. . is there a way I can get in and edit those files somehow?
[01:59] <michael117> Ajira2k: I would guess that you might have the connector in wrong or no power... no power seems very likely because it would only somewhat see a drive there if it had no power
[01:59] <roflcar> Drathorin: you can boot a liveCD and mount the /boot partition
[01:59] <_gpf_> do the *-dev packages generally just contain the source of a given package?
[01:59] <romeo_> Hi i am trying to install a cursor theme.. it says i should copy the directory to ~/.icons.. but i dont have a directory like that (i tried typing cd ~/.icons)
[01:59] <ferret_0568> There isn't an open copy option in the file menu
[01:59] <bimberi> _gpf_: perhaps see if the other mirrors (or Seveas' own) has it.
[01:59] <lawl> TRAPEZOID NINJA
[01:59] <zach_> drathorin: if you're in linux right now, you can edit the grub stuff in /boot/grub
[01:59] <_gpf_> bimberi:  ah, ok, i will do that
[01:59] <ferret_0568> That is stupid
[02:00] <roflcar> Drathorin: or you can go to the grub command line and run the kernel and initrd lines by yourself
[02:00] <ferret_0568> Who can I bug report to?
[02:00] <Drathorin> I'm in windows right now. And can't access that drive at all :/
[02:00] <ferret_0568> This is a gnome app
[02:00] <eternaljoy> jtraub: really?
[02:00] <Zewey> ferret_0568: what version of ubuntu do you use?
[02:00] <greyking> michael117: yes I have ssh running on my linux box
[02:00] <hankan> hi
[02:00] <ferret_0568> 6.10, aka Edgy
[02:00] <Drathorin> I tried booting from the live CD, but I couldn't seem to be able to mount the drive
[02:00] <Ajira2k> michael117: the power is on the same line as the power for the IDE drive i'm running off of now
[02:00] <dot> what's a package file's extension?
[02:00] <Zewey> ferret_0568: let me check if it's a new evince feature
[02:00] <ferret_0568> .deb
[02:00] <zach_> drathorin: hmm, i was just about to suggest that
[02:00] <bruenig> dot, .deb
[02:01] <waxyfresh> michael117: r00t@sleepless:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf| grep driver
[02:01] <waxyfresh> r00t@sleepless:~$
[02:01] <waxyfresh> nothing
[02:01] <dot> k
[02:01] <manton2007> All kidding aside, isn't there a way to get a higher screen resolution than 1024 by ...
[02:01] <Drathorin> Then again I could just. . have the wrong mount commands. . or something. I dunno
[02:01] <Drathorin> <--- Is a complete Ubuntu/Linux Newbie
[02:01] <zach_> wasyfresh: capital Driver?
[02:01] <bimberi> _gpf_: no, that would be source packages.  -dev packages contain development libraries - for developing add-on or dependant packages
[02:01] <Madpilot> manton2007, yes, there is
[02:01] <michael117> Nergar: dd is the command... I just remembered. Google for it and how to backup with it to make bit by bit copies but it is preferred to use tar for backup
[02:01] <Madpilot> ubotu, fixres | manton2007
[02:01] <waxyfresh> michael117:  Driver          "vesa"
[02:01] <ubotu> manton2007: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:02] <Zewey> ferret_0568: looks like it's only in newer versions. sorry, you're out of luck until April :p
[02:02] <Nergar> michael117, tar wont copy the boot flags
[02:02] <manton2007> I'm reading what you wrote, ubotu
[02:02] <michael117> greyking: A program called putty will allow you to ssh into the linux box from windows... it's the first search result on google
[02:02] <Drathorin> What is the command to mount a drive in ubuntu's Termina?
[02:02] <_gpf_> bimberi:  so, failing at finding an amd64 deb for libdvdcss2, i would need to download the source and compile?
[02:02] <michael117> Nergar: dd will
[02:02] <waxyfresh> whats ubuntu effects?
[02:02] <Zewey> ferret_0568: or you could look for unofficially compiled debs. you're looking for version 0.7 and above
[02:02] <zach_> drathorin: mount
[02:02] <_gpf_> *libdvdcss2-dev
[02:03] <ferret_0568> ok
[02:03] <Drathorin> I went mount /dev/hdd , is that correct?
[02:03] <greyking> michael117: no, I want the exact opposite
[02:03] <Nergar> oklien, thnax michael117
[02:03] <Tb0n3> how do I enable 1280x1024 resolution with 32bit depth and 60 Hz for my screen?
[02:03] <zach_> drathorin: i would suggest you bookmark http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy .  It helped me out so much
[02:03] <manton2007> ubotu, how do I get to the console (I'm brand new)
[02:03] <michael117> greyking: Oh... to connect to a windows box from linux?
[02:04] <bimberi> _gpf_: that's what I'd do
[02:04] <greyking> michael117: correct
[02:04] <pluma> 'ello everyone. I'm having a teeny weeny problem with installing Ubuntu on my 64bit PC after replacing the system harddisk which was utterly destroyed. The LiveCD kept kernel panicking, but somehow I got past that now. However now I keep on getting segfaults during INIT on boot. I am asked to enter a runlevel and no matter which, I always get a "nothing left to do" (or something like that)...
[02:04] <pluma> ...and idle.
[02:04] <bruenig> manton2007, applications>accessories>terminal
[02:04] <blackguy_chillin>  Nergger
[02:04] <dot> manton2007: click on applications, then accesories, then terminal
[02:04] <zach_> drathorin: it should be "sudo mount /dev/hda (or hdb, etc) /(mount location)/
[02:04] <_gpf_> bimberi:  looks like that's going to be my solution.  does ubuntu have a preferred path for download source?
[02:04] <michael117> greyking: I'm not sure about admining windows boxes, but I'd assume it might involve some old-ass protocol like telnet
[02:04] <Drathorin> will that work when I'm running off the live CDs?
[02:05] <zach_> drathorin: i think so
[02:05] <bruenig> _gpf_, what do you mean download source?
[02:05] <Drathorin> Worried about the sudo command and whatnot
[02:05] <_gpf_> bruenig:  source files that i have downloaded/extracted to compile
[02:05] <bimberi> _gpf_: not that i'm aware of.  Most tutorials/howtos I've seen just use $HOME
[02:05] <pluma> Drathorin: should work
[02:05] <_gpf_> bruenig:  like /usr/local/src or such
[02:05] <dot> !hi
[02:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:05] <Drathorin> So it'll let me edit files and then on the mounted drive right?
[02:05] <Drathorin> I need to change the fstab and grub boot menu
[02:05] <am_rods> !hi
[02:06] <bruenig> _gpf_, for the .tar.gz's no, the actual installs I think go in /usr/local/bin
[02:06] <michael117> Ajira2k: Wow... hmm... I thought the SATA power cables were different than PATA cables? It seems like a connection problem, imo...
[02:06] <notwen> there anyway to customize where the update notifier shows up in the taskbar in gnome?
[02:06] <bruenig> _gpf_, I usually delete the .tar.gz and extracted directories anyway, doesn't everyone
[02:06] <pluma> Drathorin: The LiveCD lets you format harddisks, so it should let you edit files on harddisks too
[02:06] <greyking> michael117: so can I just download telnet, then set it so I can get a reverse remote shell?
[02:06] <Drathorin> Alright, Thanks Guys
[02:06] <michael117> Ajira2k: do you have windows on the computer as well to just boot up and see if even it won't recognize it?
[02:06] <Drathorin> I'm gonna restart and give it a shot
[02:06] <greyking> michael117: does telnet run on windows?
[02:06] <Drathorin> It's very much appreciated, I've been trying to get this working all day
[02:06] <_gpf_> bruenig:  if i get around to it and actually remember to, yeah i do :)
[02:06] <hankan> I have problems getting mi wifi nic getting to use shared key mode with ubuntu wifi tools
[02:07] <Ajira2k> michael117: i don't, and it's install cd doesn't recognize it either
[02:07] <_gpf_> okay, off to compile, thanks for the help!
[02:07] <zach_> which is better, aptitude or apt-get?
[02:07] <bruenig> apt-get
[02:07] <nyinge> Is there any kernel configurators other than qconf and gconfig?  more feature rich stuff...?
[02:07] <notwen> i prefer apt-get
[02:07] <bimberi> _gpf_: np, good luck :)
[02:07] <jtraub> zach_, aptitude for several reasons
[02:07] <michael117> greyking: well, you can telnet out to other things in windows such as cisco routers, but I'm not sure about getting it but it isn't too secure from what I hear... give me a sec to look up what else is used to admin windows boxes
[02:07] <zach_> on this wiki, it says "apt-get has been replaced with aptitude"
[02:07] <greyking> alright
[02:07] <greyking> thanks
[02:07] <nyinge> zach_<  I prefer aptitude
[02:07] <Smaug> how do i get the sound on my windows to work?
[02:08] <pluma> To elaborate on my boot problem, I'm getting a "INIT: No inittab file found" shortly after the segfault and before the "Enter runlevel:" dialog. This is odd because Ubuntu worked fine before my HDD crashed and I haven't tweaked anything else since.
[02:08] <yanger> Smaug, what soundcard?
[02:08] <jtraub> zach_, aptitude is one command for a lot of tasks compare with bunch of apt-*
[02:08] <notwen> there anyway to customize where the update notifier shows up in the taskbar in gnome?
[02:08] <zach_> ooh! i get it.  thanks jtraub
[02:08] <Smaug> im not sure. the sound works on my ubuntu but not on windows.
[02:08] <fatlip> The following packages have been kept back: kdelibs5 kdelibs5-dev
[02:08] <fatlip> i keep getting that same error
[02:08] <jtraub> zach_, also aptitude deals much better with dependencies
[02:08] <bruenig> jtraub, dependency claim is wrong
[02:09] <zach_> but other than that, they serve basically the same purpose?
[02:09] <yanger> Smaug, :| good luck.
[02:09] <nekomancer> zach_, yes, they do
[02:09] <gouki> zach_, I prefer aptitude. It deals with dependencies better than apt-get
[02:09] <Smaug> thanks.
[02:09] <bruenig> jtraub, I will give you apt-*, although there are what two maybe that anyone uses, apt-get and apt-cache
[02:09] <bruenig> gouki, wrong
[02:09] <nekomancer> zach_, aptitude is better.
[02:09] <l90bpm> About X window..  while it's extremely cool!!!  could this not have potential to be easily exploited?    Alternatively, the local machine may run a small helper program to connect to a remote machine and start the desired client application there.
[02:09] <nekomancer> zach_, but it does NO have super cow powers...
[02:09] <miken> anyone every tried to setup svnserver, followed a lame turorial that messed things up and then needed apache2 and subversion?
[02:09] <pluma> Wait. Does the swap partition have to be hda1 or can I put it in hda2 and have hda1 be /?
[02:09] <zach_> allright, thanks.  (just aptitude is longer than apt-get, thus more typing)
[02:09] <zach_> cant do without super cow powers
[02:09] <bruenig> what is with this dependency claim
[02:10] <ferret_0568> Super Cow Powers
[02:10] <ferret_0568> I saw that
[02:10] <jtraub> check http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude vor comparsion
[02:10] <nekomancer> type apt-get moo
[02:10] <Tb0n3> :( I can't install vlc because it doesn't like my kernel
[02:10] <michael117> zach_: I believe they are the same
[02:10] <nekomancer> and then type aptitude moo
[02:10] <eV64> there is no easter egg
[02:10] <ferret_0568> try aptitude moo
[02:10] <eV64> ;)
[02:10] <ferret_0568> then aptitude -v moo
[02:10] <nekomancer> aptitude -vvvv moo
[02:10] <bruenig> jtraub, Update: Apparently the new version of apt-get in Edgy Eft (Ubuntu 6.10) has a function that allows you to remove unused dependencies when removing an application:
[02:10] <ferret_0568> then keep adding -v
[02:10] <bruenig> jtraub, you should read the page which corrects you
[02:11] <_gpf_> i could play with beryl's animation effects all day :)
[02:11] <greyking> me to
[02:11] <Tb0n3> apt-get remove --purge
[02:11] <bruenig> apt-get autoremove
[02:11] <ferret_0568> I wish I had a NVIDIA GeForce 6200 LE or above...
[02:11] <nekomancer> aptitude can remove unused dependencies w/o using additional commands
[02:11] <bruenig> nekomancer, so can apt-get
[02:11] <nekomancer> and it isn't harder to type either...
[02:11] <bruenig> nekomancer, apt-get autoremove package
[02:11] <_gpf_> bimberi:  if i do a make install, that should put the libraries in their proper directories, right?
[02:11] <michael117> Ajira2k: Hmm... wow, have you actually listened to the drive so you can hear it running for sure?
[02:12] <bruenig> nekomancer, the only difference of  course is that aptitude gives you no options, but lack of options is what linux is about, oh wait nevermind got that backwards
[02:12] <Tb0n3> !binaries
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binaries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <manton2007> Sorry, but I'm still not sure what to do. How do I increase the screen resolution beyond 1024 by ... I've got an inch of black around my screen. Something about a console?
[02:12] <zach_> wait though..  the fact that they included text to say "There are no easter eggs in this program" is in itself an easter egg, so there ARE easter eggs in the program!
[02:12] <Tb0n3> right, what's teh paste binaries?
[02:12] <Ajira2k> michael117: nope, but why would i be able to hear it running, if nothing is being written/read from it?
[02:12] <eV64> !synaptic
[02:12] <l90bpm> Seriously?   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window
[02:12] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:12] <dot> would it do harm to my system if i format (ie completely abolish) /dev/hda1 (don't need the partition anymore)?
[02:12] <nekomancer> bruenig, you are correct.  or --help is quite wrong with the two
[02:12] <pluma> Mental reminder: "whirr-click" ad infinitum is the way of a harddrive to tell you it just died.
[02:13] <eV64> dot, what do you have on dev/hda1?
[02:13] <nekomancer> zach_, did you try adding the -vv and such?
[02:13] <Tb0n3> !pastebin
[02:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:13] <Madpilot> manton2007, either System->Prefs->Screen Resolution, or open a terminal via Applications->Accessories->Terminal to follow the !fixres tutorial
[02:13] <dot> recovery partition for windows (not the OS.. something that came with my computer, does't work anymore)
[02:13] <Zambezi> Anyone used Belkin UPS in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <michael117> Ajira2k: the platters are still spinning even when it isn't being read or written to
[02:13] <dot> least.. i dont think it works..
[02:13] <manton2007> Madpilot, currently I'm running on live Cd. Will it work?
[02:13] <zach_> LOL.  this program is so awesome
[02:14] <michael117> Anyone else familiar with SATA drives that could assist Ajira2k?
[02:14] <zach_> im never using apt-get ever again
[02:14] <redwyrm> zach_, which program?
[02:14] <Madpilot> manton2007, yes, but you'll have to redo it every time you reboot the LiveCD - none of your settings will be saved
[02:14] <Tb0n3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11420/ is what I get when I try to install vlc
[02:14] <zach_> aptitude
[02:14] <nekomancer> zach_, i'm glad you see things my way now
[02:14] <poningru> Ajira2k: whats wrong?
[02:14] <bruenig> zach_, you let the ignorant pull you in with old garbage. apt-get used to not remove dependencies, but it does now. But they have decided to keep there biases from 2005 like the idjits they are
[02:14] <TwoPints> what does "set -e" do?
[02:14] <manton2007> Mad Pilot, that's ok. I will install soon. I just want to make sure it works.
[02:14] <chas3d1> hey guys! I'm trying to get a broadcom pci wifi card going with ndiswrapper
[02:14] <michael117> zach_: do you use synaptic?
[02:14] <l90bpm> oh well.. it's still cool as hell
[02:14] <Ajira2k> michael117: thanks for the help
[02:14] <chas3d1> can anyone help me?
[02:15] <poningru> TwoPints: enviroment
[02:15] <poningru> variable
[02:15] <zach_> im gonna have to make me a symlink though, so i dont have to keep typing aptitude
[02:15] <nekomancer> bruenig, why not use aptitude?
[02:15] <zach_> michael117: not often
[02:15] <chas3d1> ubuntu dapper
[02:15] <Ajira2k> poningru: new sata drive not being recognized by OS install discs, despite it being enabled in bios
[02:15] <manton2007> mad pilot, it say fail
[02:15] <manton2007> says fail
[02:15] <poningru> Ajira2k: do you know what chipset it is?
[02:15] <pluma> *groans* "Enter runlevel:_" ... I think I'm going to cry.
[02:15] <Ajira2k> poningru: nForce4
[02:15] <dot> eV64, it's a recovery partition for windows.. not sure it works anymore, so i want to abolish it (it came with my computer)
[02:15] <poningru> dot: use gparted
[02:16] <chas3d1> broadcom bcm4303
[02:16] <l90bpm> yeah recovery is a waste
[02:16] <poningru> chas3d1: get the firmware
[02:16] <michael117> poningru: he tried :(
[02:16] <Noah0504> Eww, Broadcom.  That word makes me shudder...
[02:16] <zach_> bruenig: dang, now i'm more confused...  back to square one
[02:16] <TwoPints> poningru: i just see "set -e" on its own, what variable could it be setting?
[02:16] <nekomancer> chas3d1, on a dell?
[02:16] <michael117> poningru: gave him an error that it cannot read it as did fdisk /dev/sda
[02:16] <eV64> dot, should be fine, do you have a recovery cd burned in case though?
[02:16] <zach_> IM BEING PLAYED FOR A FOOL!
[02:16] <poningru> chas3d1: apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:16] <bruenig> zach_, they read psychocats 2 years ago and just rolled with it
[02:16] <bimberi> _gpf_: yes, although I use 'checkinstall' to make a .deb
[02:16] <chas3d1> i have a d-link one if that woul dbe easier?
[02:16] <bimberi> !checkinstall | _gpf_
[02:16] <ubotu> _gpf_: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[02:16] <dot> eV64, no.. but I have blank cd's.. so how do you make one?
[02:16] <poningru> dot, michael117 ooh it is probably locked by bios
[02:17] <greyking> michael117: anything on the telnet thing?
[02:17] <nekomancer> chas3d1, i run a broadcom something or other
[02:17] <bruenig> zach_, which is why they link to that page which of course has an update saying that it isn't true anymore and apt-get does remove dependencies
[02:17] <eV64> dot, have you burned an iso?
[02:17] <_gpf_> bimberi:  oh, that's quite helpful.  thanks bimberi!
[02:17] <poningru> chas3d1: run the command that i gave you
[02:17] <zach_> might i ask what the "apt" stands for?
[02:17] <nekomancer> chas3d1, there is a script *somewhere* which sets them up
[02:17] <poningru> !apt
[02:17] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:17] <bruenig> advance packaging tool
[02:17] <bruenig> or package
[02:17] <zach_> ah
[02:17] <dot> eV64, of what?
[02:17] <gouki> bruenig, there are better ways of letting people now of something other than calling everyone idiot.
[02:17] <poningru> chas3d1: does it throw an error?
[02:17] <bruenig> gouki, well when I get steamrolled by 10 people who say aptitude is better because of dependencies.....
[02:18] <zach_> i never really liked these creative names for things.  ex: pico & nano mean small, not text editor
[02:18] <chas3d1> yes, the error is could not open
[02:18] <eV64> dot, cd image
[02:18] <chas3d1> may be locked
[02:18] <chas3d1> may not be locked
[02:18] <darklight> Hello, my brother recently installed ubuntu on his computer but cannot get his Nokia E62 SmartPhone to work with it. the software that came with it, Nokia PC Suits, is not linux compatible. Is there anything I can suggest to him?
[02:18] <gouki> bruenig, still.
[02:18] <chas3d1> hm...
[02:18] <pluma> Okay. I'm still getting "INIT: No inittab file found; sulogin: cannot open password database!; sulogin[2367] : segfault at 00...08 rip 00..401e25 rsp 0007fffffffc060 error 4; Enter runlevel: " on boot. Any takers?
[02:18] <bruenig> gouki, and then have them link me to something which actually proves my point... it gets frustrating with this apt-get FUD
[02:18] <|Amon|> .xinitrc should be in $HOME right?
[02:18] <eV64> http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ it's recommended, handy to have around if your ubuntu box is your only burner.  you should be fine.  how do you plan to remove the partition?
[02:19] <|Amon|> i added exec conky & and restarted GNOME and it aint working
[02:19] <|Amon|> ;[
[02:19] <Hobbsee> bruenig: i'ts still their choice to use aptitude.  and neither should break, unless you use unofficial repos
[02:19] <romeo_> why is my fan on my laptop constantly going when using linux? any ideas?
[02:19] <crdlb> romeo_, what brand?
[02:19] <l90bpm> you can turn it on and off
[02:19] <gouki> bruenig, I understand your point, but like I said, there is no need to call anyone 'idiot' because they gave a bad URL or old information
[02:19] <bruenig> Hobbsee, right but telling untruths is not cool either way. At least let them know what the difference is for real which is essentially none.
[02:19] <chas3d1> can i add it from a package?
[02:19] <gouki> *or gave
[02:20] <dot> eV64: unmounting it (whatever that means), then deleting it using gparted
[02:20] <manton2007> I need help with screen resolution. The highest that's listed is 1024 by 728. I need more. There is an inch of black around my screen.
[02:20] <eV64> poningru, does apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter work with the linksys wmp54gv2  (bcm4306 b/g) i've had nightmares about that on my last ubuntu install
[02:20] <|Amon|> anybody
[02:20] <pluma> I'm getting a bit frustrated here. I can't find any info on google and apparently re-installing doesn't do jack and this happens with both the 64bit and the 32bit version. I have no idea where to look.
[02:20] <eV64> dot sounds like you're on the right track
[02:20] <bruenig> |Amon|, I don't see a .xinitrc in my home. perhaps there isn't any by default
[02:20] <l90bpm> don't be agitating the dot
[02:20] <poningru> eV64: yes
[02:20] <|Amon|> bruenig, that's why i made one.
[02:20] <dot> eV64: I've only used that recovery thing once, and that one time it gave me a blue screen, so i don't need it
[02:20] <Randy026> I have a huge problem I can't get in to the graphical installer of ubuntu and when I finally manage to get some kind of display my mouse cursor doesn't show up but it can move... this happens with every distro I try! does anyone know why? I have a gforce 6600 GT and a razor copperhead USB mouse
[02:20] <poningru> chas3d1: did it work?
[02:20] <waxyfresh> michael117:  Driver          "vesa"
[02:20] <Hobbsee> |Amon|: it'll be in your home dir, yes.
[02:20] <eV64> dot, is it a hp?
[02:21] <crdlb> |Amon|, .xinitrc isn't used if you're using gdm
[02:21] <romeo_> crdlb: The laptop is a acer aspire 5024.. it works good on windows
[02:21] <chas3d1> yes, i got it from the package manager
[02:21] <|Amon|> gdm?
[02:21] <ant> !gdm
[02:21] <eV64> dot, and why would you want all that bloatware back anyways ;)
[02:21] <dot> eV64: A laptop, err.. vaio
[02:21] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 1687 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[02:21] <|Amon|> er
[02:21] <poningru> chas3d1: dude please address people when some traffic is going on
[02:21] <poningru> I didnt see your answer
[02:21] <r4nge> where does the line... "Linux host 2.6.17-10-server #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:47:26 UTC 2006 i686" come from when logging in remotely?  i didnt put that line in /etc/motd
[02:21] <michael117> waxyfresh: You could try running with the intel driver and using aiglx+beryl because the intel driver is essentially just like a generic driver that works with anything and then it will do software rendering
[02:21] <|Amon|> so what do i use instead?
[02:21] <zach_> dot: viaos dont count as laptops? :P  probably true
[02:21] <Tb0n3> how do I enable 1280x1024 resolution with 32bit depth and 60 Hz for my screen?
[02:21] <Madpilot> manton2007, you're probably going to have to manually edit xorg, like the !fixres URLs say
[02:21] <l90bpm> romeo..  does your acer aspire have ati too?
[02:21] <zach_> vaio's rather
[02:21] <poningru> Tb0n3: what chipset?
[02:21] <crdlb> romeo_, I had a similar problem with my thinkpad and ended up using a script make the fan turn off
[02:22] <l90bpm> got the 5100 here
[02:22] <bruenig> |Amon|, what are you trying to do, launch conky at startup? just go to system>preferences>sessions and startup
[02:22] <|Amon|> and when i add it under system>prefs>sessions>
[02:22] <Tb0n3> 686
[02:22] <Madpilot> ubotu, fixres | Tb0n3
[02:22] <ubotu> Tb0n3: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:22] <|Amon|> it starts conky up but when the desktop loads it loads behind the desktop
[02:22] <|Amon|> i see it when i log out of gnome tho
[02:22] <poningru> Tb0n3: what he said
[02:22] <manton2007> Madpilot, I'm not sure how to go about that.
[02:22] <|Amon|> so i know it's running
[02:22] <michael117> greyking: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299942 is how to set up the telnet server in Win2003
[02:22] <dot> zach_: okay, fine.. a sony vaio vgn s260
[02:22] <lycangodofwar> can someone help me with a problem with beryl ive been having
[02:22] <eV64> dot, i wouldn't worry about a recovery cd if you have a comp with another burner
[02:22] <chas3d1> poningru: sorry man, I'm new to this all
[02:22] <bruenig> |Amon|, give it a sleep 10 && conky
[02:22] <Tb0n3> it's gdm
[02:22] <Pricey> Beryl | lycangodofwar
[02:22] <gouki> r4nge, /etc/issue?
[02:22] <l90bpm> you can send your it to a completely different machine w/ X
[02:22] <Pricey> !beryl | lycangodofwar
[02:22] <ubotu> lycangodofwar: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:22] <Tb0n3> and thanks
[02:22] <Madpilot> manton2007, read through http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:22] <dot> eV64: define burner..
[02:22] <nekomancer> lycangodofwar, what is the problem?
[02:22] <greyking> michael117: thanks
[02:22] <poningru> chas3d1: is cool
[02:22] <|Amon|> bruenig, so what exactly do i put in there?
[02:22] <waxyfresh> michael117so just reconfigutre xorg and switch tointel?
[02:23] <michael117> lycangodofwar: What's the problem
[02:23] <|Amon|> and is the process the same for gdesklets and berel auto-start?
[02:23] <lycangodofwar> well when i start it up the bar on top of ever window disapears
[02:23] <eV64> Pricey, lycangodofwar has been here before, it's not extremely basic
[02:23] <manton2007> Madpilot, I will. Thanks
[02:23] <dot> eV64: A cd-rw burner on my laptop, or another comp with another burner?
[02:23] <bruenig> |Amon|, sleep 10 && conky
[02:23] <r4nge> gouki: i dont think so, because no matter what i put in /etc/issue it doesnt effect remote connection, and /etc/issue.net doesnt stop that line from printing
[02:23] <|Amon|> thx i'll try that
[02:23] <waxyfresh> whats the sudo apt-get --reconfigure -Xorg whatever comand?
[02:23] <arieanie_> can someone help? how do i give myself root permission to move shell script to bin folder?
[02:23] <chas3d1> poningru: it installed
[02:23] <Pricey> lycangodofwar, eV64, beryl support in #ubuntu-effects
[02:23] <|Amon|> beryl
[02:23] <|Amon|> my bad
[02:23] <bruenig> |Amon|, I don't know, I am not even sure this will work, if you are saying the desktop is loading above it, it seems like it should work
[02:23] <ant> anyone had success installing artwiz fonts?
[02:23] <michael117> waxyfresh: Oh no... try changing the Driver "vesa" to "i820" I believe
[02:23] <poningru> chas3d1: excellent
[02:23] <michael117> waxyfresh: or is it i810
[02:23] <notwen> there anyway to customize where the update notifier shows up in the taskbar in gnome?
[02:23] <eV64> dot, well if you crash your comp completely and you don't have another comp with a burner to burn a recovery disc,it's usually nice to have one handy
[02:23] <waxyfresh> arieanie_: type sudo su then your password
[02:24] <chas3d1> poningru: but what now?
[02:24] <poningru> chas3d1: restart
[02:24] <poningru> and then connect
[02:24] <arieanie_> thanx
[02:24] <eV64> Pricey, thanks
[02:24] <michael117> waxyfresh: i810 is the intel generic one
[02:24] <Madpilot> arieanie_, with sudo - sudo mv /path/to/directory
[02:24] <waxyfresh> michael117: i wis someone in beryl would of told that 5-6 hours ago
[02:24] <poningru> waxyfresh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[02:24] <michael117> waxyfresh: Well, I'm not even certain and their channel isn't as popular
[02:24] <chas3d1> poningru: how does it work? I didn't do anything just installed it from synaptic
[02:24] <ant> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[02:24] <arieanie_> thanx
[02:25] <ant> xserver-xorg*
[02:25] <poningru> chas3d1: I know dont worry about it
[02:25] <gouki> r4nge, are you using Etch?
[02:25] <dot> eV64, I've used my comp for 3 years and never needed to do recovery on anything (i'm a careful user).. i still have windows though, so I can burn a recovery disk on that if all goes wrong (but im formatting that sometime soon, too)
[02:25] <|Amon|> sleep 10 && /usr/bin/conky in startup right?
[02:25] <poningru> chas3d1: after you restart go to system->admin->network
[02:25] <bruenig> |Amon|, yeah
[02:25] <poningru> and configure it there
[02:25] <|Amon|> k
[02:25] <crdlb> |Amon|, did you say you were using beryl?
[02:26] <Randy026> no one knows? :(
[02:26] <som1> how do i find other servers to change my sources.list? i think some of the servers i used dont exist anymore..
[02:26] <chas3d1> poningru: ok mate, this stuff confuses me to death
[02:26] <|Amon|> gonna be, not yet...
[02:26] <waxyfresh> michael117: theres been peoplein there all day,not many but some.i even asked politly ifi was being ignored or if i could get i simpple "i cant helpp you"i nderstand the demands made on peoplein these rooms
[02:26] <|Amon|> bruenig, whats the sleep command do
[02:26] <eV64> dot, yes i currently divorced windows
[02:26] <Nullbyte> good job
[02:26] <bruenig> |Amon|, waits ten seconds
[02:26] <|Amon|> okay cool
[02:26] <|Amon|> brb
[02:27] <poningru> chas3d1: restart and come back
[02:27] <poningru> I will explain
[02:27] <waxyfresh> whats the command to reconfigure xorg in a gui?
[02:27] <Ajira2k> michael117: apparently my motherboard chipset has a bug with 3.0Gb/s sata drives and i need to put in the jumper that limits it to 1.5
[02:27] <dot> eV64: lol.. you think I should finish backing up my stuff on there then format windows first before i format it's recovery partition?
[02:27] <redwyrm> other thrilling commands to try are "sleep 10m" and "sleep 10h" :)
[02:27] <chas3d1> poningru:i' m here mate
[02:27] <michael117> waxyfresh: well, I'm pretty sure about what I'm saying, but not 100% sure so you may want to do "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak" just in case
[02:27] <poningru> oh you already restarted?
[02:27] <Zewey> again, sorry for self advertising, but any Tomboy users/non-users, may i please direct your attention to this poll: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390286 ;)
[02:27] <poningru> chas3d1: you already restarted?
[02:27] <netrat> i just changed the nic in my box running ubuntu 6.06.1LTS server, now when i run lshw i get, *-network:0 DISABLED
[02:27] <waxyfresh> michael117: i got a backup
[02:27] <chas3d1> poningru:yes
[02:27] <michael117> Ajira2k: Do you have the newest BIOS installed?
[02:27] <|Amon|> still no conky
[02:27] <eV64> dot, if you're just removing the recovery partition, there's near 0 danger of losing everything, although no matter how careful you are, hard drives do crash!
[02:28] <poningru> chas3d1: do you have any security for your wifi?
[02:28] <michael117> waxyfresh: and you know how to recover if x server doesn't start?
[02:28] <Randy026> is there anyway to start ubuntu setup in a widescreen res?
[02:28] <chas3d1> poningru: nope
[02:28] <|Amon|> robert@purgatory:~$ ps aux | grep conky
[02:28] <|Amon|> robert   13235 75.7  0.3   4568  1772 ?        Rs   20:48  30:24 /usr/bin/conky
[02:28] <eV64> dot, the only thing i would be worried about is messing up grub
[02:28] <shmeelAway> hey if i have another moniter connected to my laptop with a VGA connection, will setup and use be pretty simple?
[02:28] <michael117> waxyfresh: Or at least work around in the shell if you are graphics-less?
[02:28] <eV64> dot, but i'm a noob too
[02:28] <poningru> chas3d1: just go to system->admin->network
[02:28] <Ajira2k> michael117: as far as i know, but i have no problem putting the jumper back in
[02:28] <waxyfresh> michael117: yup both
[02:28] <poningru> chas3d1: click on your wifi card, click on properties
[02:29] <netrat> i just changed the nic in my box running ubuntu 6.06.1LTS server, now when i run lshw i get, *-network:0 DISABLED
[02:29] <waxyfresh> michael117: whats the sudo apt-get --reconfigure....thing for xorg?
[02:29] <dot> eV64: yeah, well.. i'll start formatting it now, and hope for the best .. im planning on using the partition for quicker transfer of files between windows and linux
[02:29] <manton2007> Madpilot, I appreciate your help. So far, the info I'm reading is beyond me. I've got an nvidia card. Can you lead me through it?
[02:29] <r4nge> gouki: found it, was in bootmisc.sh in /etc/init.d
[02:29] <chas3d1> poningru: it didn't appear. it only has my NIC card
[02:29] <dot> eV64 rather than burn on cd, transfer from cd
[02:29] <poningru> chas3d1: Oh!!!
[02:29] <waxyfresh> !xorg
[02:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:29] <poningru> wth
[02:29] <blackguy_chillin> aye yo poningru
[02:29] <poningru> :p
[02:29] <poningru> sory
[02:29] <michael117> waxyfresh: Yeah... just change the vesa to i810 and then press ctrl+alt+backspace to restart xserver and you will immediately know if it worked and if not you will be given shell and you just copy the old one back
[02:30] <waxyfresh> michael117: thank
[02:30] <Drathorin> o_o Hello again (anyone who remembers me) Could I possibly hassle someone for just a moment? ^^;
[02:30] <michael117> waxyfresh: well, that's just to reconfigure the xorg but that's a bitch and I'd opt against it
[02:30] <nekomancer> sure
[02:30] <poningru> chas3d1: hmm yeah you need the bcm driver
[02:30] <gouki> r4nge, nice! What version are you using then? I never actually edited the motd or issue on Ubuntu, but for Debian (sarge at least) those are the files that need to be edited.
[02:30] <nekomancer> Drathorin, what do you need?
[02:30] <eV64> dot, good luck
[02:30] <Madpilot> manton2007, hmm, I've got an AIT card, and it's always found the right res (1280x1024x75) on it's own. Ask specific questions about the parts of that page that're confusing, though, and either I or someone else in here will help!
[02:30] <chas3d1> poningru: i have it on the deskyop
[02:30] <michael117> waxyfresh: I mean... it's not hard, but it asks like 10-20 questions and I find it annoying
[02:30] <chas3d1> poningru: and don't worry mate. I've been at this for hours
[02:30] <pluma> Okay, in case anybody has any idea how to help me by now: I re-installed Ubuntu from LiveCD and upon booting (even in recovery mode) I get "* INIT: No inittab file found" followed by "Enter runlevel:". No matter what I enter, it dies with "no more processes left in this runlevel". Help?
[02:30] <eternaljoy> does secondlife run on Ubuntu edgy?
[02:31] <dot> eV64: thanks.. i'll be back in a few (as BehindYou)
[02:31] <Drathorin> Neko - I need to edit the GRUB list and fstab on my drive, but I can't access it currently. So I loaded up my live disks and am trying to edit the drive. . but. . Not quite sure what to dod
[02:31] <poningru> chas3d1: go on a terminal
[02:31] <poningru> type in iwconfig
[02:31] <Drathorin> do*
[02:31] <poningru> what does it say?
[02:31] <som1> how do i find other servers for my sources.list?
[02:31] <chas3d1> poningru: no wireless extensions
[02:31] <nekomancer> Drathorin, do you know how to mount the hard disk?
[02:31] <|Amon|> Do i need to reboot or just restart gnome?
[02:31] <jvai> heey ppls
[02:31] <bruenig> som1, just change the country code at the begging, what do you have now?
[02:31] <manton2007> Madpilot, I typed in the code to recognize my video car. But it didn't seem to work. The resolution options don't change. I've used the KDE interface on this machine before, so I know the screen can do better than this.
[02:32] <Drathorin> well, I'm told for mine I should do "mount /dev/hdd"
[02:32] <bruenig> beginning*
[02:32] <Drathorin> But I get an error when I do so
[02:32] <poningru> chas3d1: easiest thing to do would be for you to upgrade to edgy
[02:32] <nekomancer> Drathorin, what is the error?
[02:32] <poningru> chas3d1: cause I know your thing works under edgy
[02:32] <chas3d1> poningru: is there a way that I can see what version i'm running under? because i may be running edgy
[02:32] <moparfan90> hello. i am running a fresh install of 7.04 herd 5, and i have a ATI x800 gto video card i want to put into this system. what the best way to go about installing the drivers and everything?
[02:33] <chas3d1> poningru: I can't remember mate
[02:33] <cables> My friend and I booted the Edgy LiveCD, and it couldn't detect his hard disk. When he rebooted to get back to Vista, his Vista install was messed up. What happened?
[02:33] <Nullbyte> his harddisk wasnt there in the first place
[02:33] <pluma> Does anyone actually hear me?
[02:33] <Nullbyte> or it was messed up before he booted
[02:33] <poningru> chas3d1: lsb_release -r
[02:33] <Madpilot> manton2007, which part of that fixres page are you on?
[02:33] <Nullbyte> no, pluma
[02:33] <bizongo> looking for help with a dell poweredge on which I installed 6.06 LTS. Any takers?
[02:33] <pluma> Ah, good.
[02:33] <som1> bruenig, yea thats better now, i had problems with the il ones
[02:33] <manton2007> The beginning
[02:33] <poningru> chas3d1: or lsb_release -a
[02:34] <colbert> Can someone help, I have just rebooted after mounting network shares using samba and I am getting "could not resolve mount point /media/jaycdrive" errors
[02:34] <manton2007> I've been typing different things.
[02:34] <Drathorin> Neko Mancer - I sent you a PM, thought it might be easier to read ^^;
[02:34] <josef666>  Archive-Update-in-Progress-beryllium.canonical.com
[02:34] <chas3d1> poningru: it says 6.06
[02:34] <josef666> i found that virus on the ubuntu server
[02:34] <nekomancer> Drathorin, how do i use that?
[02:34] <poningru> chas3d1: you have dapper
[02:34] <josef666> .com files are always viruses
[02:34] <Randy026> is there any way to reconfigure X and my mouse on a live cd before install??
[02:34] <nekomancer> Drathorin, i just started using ICR... ummm... yesterday
[02:34] <poningru> josef666: ...
[02:34] <Madpilot> manton2007, start with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - that'll walk you thru a bunch of config questions
[02:34] <Drathorin> Sorry, I thought XChat would just open a seperate window for you :/
[02:34] <chas3d1> poningru: ok, i'll get edgy
[02:34] <poningru> josef666: please dont troll
[02:34] <pluma> Okay, dumb question: Could it be that Ubuntu won't boot because I put /etc on its own partition?
[02:35] <chas3d1> poningru: but what then?
[02:35] <josef666> i really found it there, poningru ;)
[02:35] <moparfan90> hello. i am running a fresh install of 7.04 herd 5, and i have a ATI x800 gto video card i want to put into this system. what the best way to go about installing the drivers and everything?
[02:35] <Drathorin> NekoMancer - The error is "mount: can't find /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[02:35] <Madpilot> Drathorin, you need to be registered on Freenode to send PMs
[02:35] <zach_> this may sound far fetched, but is there anything i can run to act as a media center extender, ie for windows MCE?
[02:35] <poningru> chas3d1: it should automagically detect it
[02:35] <poningru> and run
[02:35] <michael117> pluma: No, probably not but maybe with your /boot partition
[02:35] <eternaljoy> how can I use TurboCache on my NVidia 7300?
[02:35] <Drathorin> Oh, Thanks Zach :) I didn't know
[02:35] <pluma> I don't have a seperate /boot partition.
[02:35] <poningru> zach_: yes take a look at the linuxmce project
[02:35] <nekomancer> Drathorin, i'm sorry, i have to go...  very sorry
[02:35] <sgtmattbaker> what IRC channel can I go to for hardware support
[02:35] <poningru> they have couple of scripts that do that
[02:35] <Drathorin> That's okay neko, Thanks anyways
[02:35] <Madpilot> sgtmattbaker, this one, for starters
[02:36] <chas3d1> poningru: ok excellent
[02:36] <Drathorin> Is anyone. . else free to perhaps give me a hand?
[02:36] <bizongo> Poweredge with Broadcom Netextreme Ethernet, appears to have network connectivity...responds to pings but not http or ftp
[02:36] <poningru> Drathorin: sorry whats your problem?
[02:36] <sgtmattbaker> Madpilot: even if it isn't related to Linux?
[02:36] <pluma> I'm just trying to find out why I get that "INIT: No inittab file found" error and the consecutive death.
[02:36] <chori> Anyone good at bluetooth? I want to make my ubuntu-machine to act like bluetooth-speakers. Is it possible?
[02:36] <zach_> poningru: sweet, thanks
[02:36] <Madpilot> sgtmattbaker, maybe. Ask, the worst that'll happen is you'll be told you're offtopic...
[02:36] <addams> hey guys
[02:36] <manton2007> Madpilot, once it says it recongnized my car, what do I do?
[02:36] <Drathorin> Poningru - Trying to mount my ubuntu drive. A friend of mine changed where it's located in the grub boot menu, and the fstab. So I'm in my live CDs currently, trying to mount the drive. . Doesn't seem to though.
[02:37] <addams> is wine hard to use? I install it, and I can't see it?
[02:37] <michael117> Has anyone figured out how to get java (more specifically jdk 1.6 and jre 1.6) to work with beryl? I have tried the java thing on their wiki and it doesn't seem to follow through and work
[02:37] <colbert> Can someone help, I have just rebooted after mounting network shares using samba and I am getting "could not resolve mount point /media/jaycdrive" errors
[02:37] <r4nge> where is the line that states your "Last login: ..." called from?
[02:37] <addams> do I have to defrag this hard drive on linux?
[02:37] <Nullbyte> addams, wine is eeasy
[02:37] <Madpilot> manton2007, restart X - Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will restart X (and all your apps)
[02:37] <shmeelAway> if i'm connecing another moniter to my laptop using VGA connection, what software o you suggest i use?
[02:37] <manton2007> madpilot, ok
[02:37] <sgtmattbaker> Madpilot: my PC froze at the startup BIOS screen on booting up this morning
[02:37] <addams> null: yeah, but it isn't showing up in my program list, is that normal?
[02:37] <poningru> Drathorin: ok go into a terminal with applications->accessories->terminal
[02:38] <michael117> addams: No need to ever defrag, and wine is not a program exactly... type wine thefile.exe to launch the exe
[02:38] <eV64> poningru, do i need a reboot after bcm43xx-fwcutter?  also, is there a better network device manager?
[02:38] <Nullbyte> yes addams, it has no gui at all
[02:38] <chas3d1> poningru: should I go to feisty?
[02:38] <Drathorin> Poningru - *Nod nod* I have one open. What next?
[02:38] <Nullbyte> you just open the exe files in wine
[02:38] <addams> oh, i see
[02:38] <poningru> chas3d1: its pretty stable right now but you might get random bugs
[02:38] <michael117> addams: you might be interested in cedega if you want to play games and it comes with a nice GUI but it will cost some money :(
[02:38] <addams> Nullbyte: with wine I just want to run notetabpro
[02:38] <poningru> chas3d1: so if this computer isnt absolutely necessary I would put feisty on it
[02:39] <AndrewWilliams> i've just starting using cedega, well worth the 3/pm :)
[02:39] <poningru> eV64: yes
[02:39] <Berzerke1> I'm having a peculiar problem.
[02:39] <alex_mayorga> hi, can somebody help me to get a Xircom CEM56 pcmcia card working on my laptop?
[02:39] <poningru> eV64: yes on both questions, the really good one is network-manager
[02:39] <Nullbyte> addams: Then download and install that, then open it and write wine when it asks you what program to use it in
[02:39] <Berzerke1> Someone who wants to help me needs to be able to listen to a long story. :P
[02:39] <poningru> Drathorin: sorry ok now run 'mkdir oldstuff'
[02:39] <addams> one last qeustion: My cursor looks weird in ubuntu and blinks weird, is that bad?
[02:39] <Drathorin> Done
[02:40] <michael117> addams: I would suggest checking if there is a similar linux app for the program first because wine isn't always great
[02:40] <fghj_> what's the best way to isntall drivers for ati 1900x under ubuntu ?
[02:40] <michael117> fghj_: apt-get install fglrx
[02:40] <alex_mayorga> fghj_, my guess is the included api driver
[02:40] <slestak> anyone use dnsmasq for a dhcp server as well as dns caching?
[02:40] <alex_mayorga> fghj_, my guess is the included ati driver
[02:40] <michael117> not the included ati driver, it sucks
[02:40] <poningru> Drathorin: run 'sudo mount /dev/xxx oldstuff' where xxx is the name of your hard drive under /dev, the simplest way to find this name is to type in 'mount /dev/h' and pressing tab couple of times
[02:41] <alex_mayorga> my bad
[02:41] <poningru> Drathorin: let me know if that didnt make sense
[02:41] <poningru> Drathorin: err I forgot the partition number
[02:41] <sgtmattbaker> my PC froze at the BIOS screen
[02:41] <moparfan90> i want to put a ATI video card in my system running 7.04.... how should i go about this
[02:41] <anggarda> hiello #ubuntu, what is the latest stable release of ubuntu? I'm on digg and some article mentions Feisty 7.04? There is no such release right?
[02:41] <fghj_> alex_mayorga: where?
[02:41] <poningru> so it would be /dev/xxx1 or /dev/xxx2 or soemthing like that
[02:41] <Berzerke1> michael117, do you think you could help me out? I have to give you some BG info before I tell you the problem.
[02:41] <poningru> anggarda: thats the beta release
[02:41] <cafuego_> anggarda: Feisty is due out midway through next month.
[02:41] <poningru> anggarda: atleast beta by tomorrow
[02:41] <michael117> alex_mayorga: Nah, it's cool, but the included one is just an open source generic driver because ati's driver is copyrighted so it cannot be included in ubuntu
[02:41] <cafuego_> anggarda: The current release is Edgy (6.10)
[02:42] <Drathorin> okay, I think i got it. (hhd1)
[02:42] <anggarda> ahh....thanks for the info folks. appreciated.
[02:42] <poningru> Drathorin: hhd?
[02:42] <poningru> you sure?
[02:42] <Drathorin> hdd1* sorry
[02:42] <alex_mayorga> can somebody help me to get a Xircom CEM56 pcmcia card working on my laptop?
[02:42] <poningru> ah ok
[02:42] <poningru> makes more sense
[02:42] <Drathorin> Fingers aren't co-operating
[02:42] <manton2007> madpilot, sorry to bother you. It didn't change anything.
[02:42] <Drathorin> (This drive is on the secondary slave)
[02:42] <poningru> Drathorin: excellent makes sense now
[02:43] <michael117> fghj_: fglrx is ati's driver for linux and you will need to install it from the repo and then make sure xorg.conf is set to use it and you can check by typing "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver" and see if it says "ati" or "fglrx"
[02:43] <poningru> Drathorin: now so the command would be 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 oldstuff'
[02:43] <michael117> !fglrx
[02:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:43] <Drathorin> It would've worked when I was changing it around earlier, but my friend told me to change it to hdb :<
[02:43] <poningru> fghj_: you can also use envy
[02:43] <Berzerke1> michael117, do you think you could help me out a bit?
[02:43] <poningru> !envy | fghj_
[02:43] <ubotu> fghj_: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[02:43] <Drathorin> Poningru - Yeah, I got it mounted, I think. No errors
[02:43] <Berzerke1> Envy didn't work for my when installing nVidia
[02:43] <michael117> Berzerke1: send me a pm if you have a lot to say
[02:43] <Berzerke1> It didn't install the wfb module.
[02:43] <Berzerke1> The run package worked fine.
[02:43] <FordCortina> do i need to post somewhere or talk to someone to apply for google SoC?
[02:44] <aarango> why is better knoppix 5.0..., somebody know?
[02:44] <Drathorin> Aha! I see the drive
[02:44] <poningru> Drathorin: wait this is a secondary drive?
[02:44] <poningru> as in slave?
[02:44] <Drathorin> Though, I don't understand the logic in how it worked. :)
[02:44] <michael117> poningru: WTF? I never even knew about this envy script
[02:44] <fghj_> fglrx works now -- thanks everyone :-)
[02:44] <Madpilot> manton2007, check the actual hardware of your screen - the width/height/contrast/brightness setting - wide black margins could be some width/height of display setting there
[02:44] <Drathorin> Yes, I have windows on the secondary master :x
[02:44] <mypapit> wtf
[02:44] <aarango> i think tha is more fast that ubuntu
[02:44] <poningru> Drathorin: hmm
[02:44] <poningru> Drathorin: the best thing for you to do would be to just reinstall grub then
[02:44] <michael117> fghj_: wait, type in glxgears to see if it is runs smoothly and then fglxinfo
[02:44] <poningru> on the master
[02:45] <poningru> !grub | Drathorin
[02:45] <ubotu> Drathorin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:45] <michael117> fghj_: and look for "Direct Rendering: Yes" and you will know it is configured correctly
[02:45] <Drathorin> I don't like that idea though :< last time I had grub installed, one drive went down, and the whole system died
[02:45] <jvai> ENVY looks sweet!
[02:45] <fghj_> michael117: omg; it sucks; "Xlib: extension xfree86-dri missing"
[02:45] <wildcat16> Drathorin: GRUB as to be on the first (master) drive i think
[02:45] <poningru> Drathorin: yeah look at the first link
[02:45] <fghj_> michael117: what else do I need to do to get dri / direct rendering working?
[02:45] <Drathorin> Yeah, it's why I don't like it :o
[02:46] <manton2007> Madpilot, it works fine with the old windows the way it's set. I wish I could change it the other way, with a high screen resolution.
[02:46] <Drathorin> if that drive dies, then I can't boot linux
[02:46] <Drathorin> even though linux isn't on that hard drive
[02:46] <nn531> how do you change title bars without getting beryl or changing themes
[02:46] <wildcat16> Drathorin: then you put second drive's entries in menu.lst
[02:46] <paozinho> where is the UBUNTU - BR ? for brazil ??
[02:46] <addams> What is a good program to program PHP in linux in?
[02:46] <Madpilot> !br | paozinho
[02:46] <ubotu> paozinho: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:46] <paozinho> Thankyou !
[02:46] <addams> I need a strong "find and replace: text program
[02:46] <poningru> paozinho: does the use seem right?
[02:46] <cafuego_> addams: I find 'vim' works nicely.
[02:46] <michael117> fghj_: if you just installed it, make sure xorg.conf is configured to use it and if so make sure you have restarted x server
[02:46] <poningru> my portugese isnt upto par
[02:47] <paozinho> a
[02:47] <Madpilot> addams, gedit, or bluefish
[02:47] <nn531> !panel
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <wildcat16> adams: script like?
[02:47] <nn531> !windows
[02:47] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:47] <nn531> ha funny
[02:47] <fghj_> michael117: I switched the "vesa" to "fglrx", then hit alt-ctrl-backspace, X restarted; but direct rendering is somehow not up; and the module section does have Load "dri"
[02:47] <nn531> not the windows i wanted
[02:47] <Drathorin> Not to be rude, but I have a tendancy for storage or extra drives to die :< and Grub had a bad habbit of taking my whole system down ^^;
[02:48] <poningru> Drathorin: damn ok lets take a look then
[02:48] <Drathorin> I'm just changing the fstab and grub menu lists to boot from hdd1, hopefully that should be it. .
[02:48] <poningru> Drathorin: run 'cd /boot/grub/
[02:48] <michael117> fghj_: Hmm... yeah, well fuck, that's what I always run into but I keep forgetting how I fix it
[02:48] <michael117> !fglrx
[02:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:48] <Berzerke1> michael117, I'm done telling you the story. :P
[02:48] <fghj_> ah; thanks
[02:48] <stpere> somebody know a way to control the state of a dialup connection using a web admin control?
[02:49] <theneb> webmin?
[02:49] <poningru> Drathorin: the menu list should have sections of all the os's that are listed
[02:49] <am_rods> can i install kde from gnome using synaptic, and what packages i have to install?
[02:49] <nn531> anyone know how to change titlebars without beryl or themes?
[02:49] <cables> am_rods, kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <am_rods> thanks
[02:49] <michael117> fghj_: I think all the steps might be there... ATI is a bitch to the linux community with their lack of true driver support :(
[02:49] <Drathorin> Ponigru - yeah, currently it has hdb1 for ubuntu, so I'm switching those values to hdd1
[02:49] <Nullbyte> am_rods: kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <stpere> theneb: yeah, webmin would do it
[02:49] <wildcat16> can I switch to KDE??
[02:49] <addams> hmm just trying to take all of this
[02:49] <redwyrm> michael117, so is nvidia
[02:49] <michael117> Berzerke1: did you PM me it?
[02:49] <Berzerke1> Yes, I did.
[02:49] <cables> wildcat16, run the command sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop and y ou can
[02:50] <addams> if i'm using gnome, i should try to stick with gnome apps?
[02:50] <michael117> redwyrm: Less than ATI
[02:50] <wildcat16> thx
[02:50] <cables> addams, you can use KDE apps if you like them
[02:50] <paozinho> i dont like the ubuntu-br irc....
[02:50] <stpere> theneb: Nullbyte but I was wondering if there were any other choice, lighter to download on my dialup
[02:50] <paozinho> they are talking about football
[02:50] <wildcat16> cables: that will take a while?
[02:50] <cables> wildcat16, you can then select KDE in Sessions in the login menu
[02:50] <cables> wildcat16, you'll have to download about 500 mb of stuff
[02:50] <redwyrm> michael117, so ATI doesn't even support closed-source linux drivers?
[02:50] <stpere> Nullbyte: didn't meant to include your nick, sorry :-)
[02:50] <wildcat16> thx ^^
[02:50] <Nullbyte> stpere: :) No problem mate
[02:51] <cheeseboy> how do i mount iso in ubuntu?
[02:51] <Drathorin> Ponigru - Thanks :) hopefully I'll be back in a few moments. I thank you in advance if it works :)
[02:51] <Drathorin> And thanks anyways if it doesn't ;)
[02:51] <theneb> cheeseboy: mount isofile
[02:51] <michael117> addams: Well, yes it's best to use gnome apps because when you start kde apps, it has to load the kde libraries into ram whereas gnome apps will already be loaded and the libraries there and it will just share the loaded ones
[02:51] <cheeseboy> thats it?
[02:51] <theneb> yeah
[02:51] <paozinho> a
[02:51] <theneb> cheeseboy: there is gisomount if you want a gui
[02:52] <firefly2442> Is there any really simple proxy server like this for Ubuntu? http://www.analogx.com/CONTENTS/download/network/proxy.htm
[02:52] <Berzerke1> michael117: Did you get the PM?
[02:52] <paozinho> cheeseboy: sudo mount *.iso /media/iso
[02:53] <l90bpm> why didn't you just say beowolf?
[02:53] <michael117> redwyrm: Well, they just kind of put them out there and you're on your own then. They aren't even great and don't even try to advance the support which is why the XGL hack exists in the first place and nvidia instead allows for aiglx
[02:53] <michael117> Berzerke1: No...
[02:53] <Berzerke1> how do I "PM?"
[02:53] <paozinho> someone know some thing of BERYL ???
[02:53] <eetfunk> how do I give read/write permissions to a certain user for a specific folder? I know it's chmod, but can't figure out the right syntax.
[02:53] <michael117> paozinho: nope, never heard of it :)
 Serious ?
[02:54] <michael117> paozinho: Running it now
[02:54] <paozinho> michael117: hehehehehe =P
[02:54] <paozinho> michael177: You can help me if a thing ?
[02:54] <paozinho> with*
[02:54] <michael117> paozinho: Depends... I'm a mavs fan and the game is on and I want to go watch it
[02:54] <paozinho> michael177: you can help me WITH a thing here ??
[02:55] <paozinho> michael177: i will be quickly : )
[02:55] <michael117> paozinho: k go!
[02:55] <paozinho> michael177: when i ON the beryl...the MENU bar (minimize, restore, etc) dissapear ! you know what is ??
[02:55] <troy_> Thanks ponigru, I'm up and running
[02:55] <waxyfresh> michael117: no luck
[02:56] <pluma> I'm now re-installing Linux for the sixth time (or so -- I lost count) in a row. If that doesn't do it, I'll try and copy the inittab from the LiveCD manually. That should not be necessary, but I'm willing to do anything right now.
[02:56] <teenbeat> quistion, if you used sudo apt-get install -f and it screwed up your system only is reinstalling again right
[02:56] <waxyfresh> michael117: i tryed a few  others to and they didint work
[02:56] <michael117> waxyfresh: well, fuck... try googling about software rendering with beryl :-/
[02:56] <_gpf_> woo, beryl crash!
[02:57] <Drathorin> Thank you very much folks :) and g'night
[02:57] <alex_mayorga> any one with pcmcia experience?
[02:57] <dkbg> I think there's a problem with exaile in the repos, synaptic can't download the "exaile" package, yet the deb is there (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/e/exaile/), it also doesn't have an entry in the Packages.gz file (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz)
[02:57] <michael117> paozinho: Beryl isn't being enabled or is closing down and so the window decorations aren't showing up... make sure xgl or aiglx is configured and running properly and that your drivers are working
[02:57] <cables> alex_mayorga, no, but it might help if you ask your problem specifically
[02:57] <alex_mayorga> can somebody help me to get a Xircom CEM56 pcmcia card working on my laptop?
[02:57] <Nergar> does somebody here is using utorrent???
[02:57] <Zewey> Nergar: yep.
[02:58] <alex_mayorga> Nergar, I use azureus
[02:58] <addams> what is the safest and most stable way to play mp3 files in gnome ubuntu..?
[02:58] <cables> addams, no way is unsafe...
[02:58] <wildcat16> addams: i use Totem
[02:58] <cables> addams, you can use vlc
[02:58] <alex_mayorga> cables, how do I get a Xircom CEM56 pcmcia card working on my laptop?
[02:58] <paozinho> michael117: I use a NVIDIA, with driver 9775. I heard, need use XGL. I put in the "Render" options to use XGL....nothing !!
[02:58] <michael117> addams: with xine libraries?
[02:58] <cables> addams, or you can install the codecs
[02:58] <katani> addams as long as you have the MP3 codecs installed, you can play it in many apps
[02:58] <teenbeat> can someone please help me here
[02:58] <cables> !mp3 | addams
[02:58] <ubotu> addams: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <Nergar> Zewey, i have a prob, i have it also but now it stays in the systray and wont show up
[02:58] <cables> !ask | teenbeat
[02:58] <ubotu> teenbeat: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:58] <Zewey> addams: why are you looking for "safeness" from mp3s anyway?
[02:59] <michael117> paozinho: aiglx is intended for nvidia because nvidia has better support for linux and XGL is a hack of xorg to get ati cards running
[02:59] <cables> alex_mayorga, I didn't say I knew how to do that... is it a wi-fi card?
[02:59] <michael117> paozinho: depends on what card you have, I believe
[02:59] <Zewey> Nergar: you mean you've run uTorrent, but the icon is in the systray and you can't make it show?
[02:59] <alex_mayorga> cables, it's an ethernet/modem thing
[02:59] <ant> i cant seem to get X to recognize my newly installed bitmap fonts? any suggestions other than !fonts
[02:59] <teenbeat> what about the command sudo apt-get install - f command do i have to reinstall ubuntu because it scrambled it all
[02:59] <cables> alex_mayorga, I don't know...
[02:59] <Nergar> exactly Zewey
[02:59] <cables> !away | michael117|away
[02:59] <ubotu> michael117|away: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[03:00] <paozinho> michael177: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
[03:00] <Zewey> Nergar: this may sound silly, but does clicking, or righ-clicking on it to get the menu and select show, work?
[03:00] <teenbeat> i tryed to update a few thing like xawtv en it all went wrong after
[03:00] <alex_mayorga> cables, FWIW  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11424/
[03:00] <Nergar> yes, but when i click on show/hide it doesn't work
[03:00] <_gpf_> paozinho:  have you tried following this guide? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[03:01] <Zewey> Nergar: i think i had that before
[03:01] <Berzerke1> I have a huge problem, I need someone's help, but I also need to give them BG info.
[03:01] <paozinho> i will try
[03:01] <_gpf_> paozinho:  i followed that guide step-by-step and have a very nice beryl desktop
[03:01] <_gpf_> i have edgy, amd64, with a geforce fx 5500
[03:01] <Zewey> Nergar: try just manually killing it and starting it again, untick the systray icon option, restart, re-tick the systray icon option again
[03:01] <paozinho> _gpf_: i will try !! I will return to you in few minutes
[03:02] <kupesoft> If anyone knows how to get iwlwifi working with eft, please let me know!
[03:02] <kupesoft> I'm having trouble compiling the module,
[03:02] <teenbeat> does anyone do know the command sudo apt-get install -f
[03:03] <Nergar> Zewey, i restarted utorrent, restarted gnome, changed from beryl to metacity, restarted the lap-top, and it doesn't work
[03:04] <alex_mayorga> teenbeat, man knows
[03:04] <teenbeat> ok ill ask him
[03:04] <Nergar> Zewey, i also deleted the .exe and downloaded it again
[03:04] <alex_mayorga> teenbeat, try man apt-get in the command line
[03:04] <fghj> anyone manage to get ati ctm installed on ubuntu?
[03:04] <Nergar> the funny thing is, utorrent is still downloading fine
[03:05] <teenbeat> i did but that was after
[03:05] <teenbeat> the command was allready done
[03:05] <Zewey> Nergar: it should have its registry settings in wine, so redownloading wouldn't work i think :P
[03:05] <teenbeat> i was updating xawtv
[03:05] <Nergar> so how can i delete the registry in wine?
[03:05] <alex_mayorga> cables, did you had a chance to look at my paste?
[03:05] <slestak> anyone using dnamasq for dhcp as well as dns caching?
[03:05] <Nergar> or do i have to wipe wine?
[03:06] <teenbeat> no my system is lower than minimal
[03:06] <teenbeat> not even updates nothing
[03:06] <Zewey> Nergar: i'm not sure where it stores the registry settings :/ hold on
[03:06] <wildcat16> anyone knows if i can interrupt a download and resume it tomorrow?
[03:06] <Nergar> thanx Zewey
[03:07] <teenbeat> all standard programms and system programs are gone accept the one if installed afterwards
[03:07] <Whtiger> hey guys
[03:07] <bacho> hey!
[03:07] <Whtiger> hey!
[03:08] <romeo_> !avi
[03:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:08] <slestak> !dnsmasq
[03:08] <ubotu> dnsmasq: A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.33-1 (edgy), package size 174 kB, installed size 580 kB
[03:08] <Whtiger> http://copy-pasta.com/pasta282 gcj doesn't seem to work all that well.
[03:08] <pluma> WTF. I think it works now that I didn't create a partition for /etc. At least it's doing a filesystem check...
[03:09] <placebohigh> is it ok if i ask a question about a problem I'm having after installation?
[03:10] <teenbeat> wel its reinstalling now, i do have an other question : is there an program that makes windows partition automaticly fisible and readable
[03:10] <fghj_> don't ask to ask; just ask
[03:10] <placebohigh> :)
[03:10] <Whtiger> =D
[03:10] <alex_mayorga> placebohigh, !ask
[03:10] <slestak> teenbeat: you can mount win shares with "mount"
[03:10] <slestak> i mean partitions
[03:11] <teenbeat> and how do i do that i know nothing of compiling and stuff
[03:11] <Zewey> Nergar: try moving/renaming/deleting .wine/c/windows/profiles/<username>/Application Data/uTorrent, and restart it
[03:11] <pluma> teenbeat, open a console and say "man mount"
[03:11] <Zewey> Nergar: if possible, try and update Wine as well
[03:11] <slestak> make a dir in /mnt like /mnt/win, the sudo mount /dev/hd? /mnt/win replace ? with the partition that you want to mount
[03:11] <placebohigh> !ask I just got through installing the desktop ubuntu. I can boot into the livecd fine doing the safe mode, and I installed from there. Now when I boot my screen is wierd, something obviously wrong with the VGA display..any quick ideas? I have an nvidia 6600 installed that the monitor is plugged in through
[03:12] <teenbeat> ok as soon as the new installation s ready ill try it
[03:12] <wildcat16> anyone knows if i can pause a download and resume it after reboot?
[03:12] <teenbeat> im allreade trying for nearly a week now
[03:12] <Nergar> Zewey, we'll see
[03:14] <wolfspiri1> questions about how apache2 is set up with ubuntu.. tried configuring /usr/share/apache2/config/default to change the documentroot to /var/www/html and even after a restart it still defaults to /var/www  please help
[03:14] <shmeelAway> if i'm connecing another moniter to my laptop using VGA connection, what software o you suggest i use?
[03:14] <pluma> placebohigh: Define "weird". Artefacts? Static? Odd colours?
[03:14] <Nullbyte> penis
[03:14] <Nergar> Zewey, thanx a lot, now to reconfigure and restart my downloads D:
[03:14] <slestak> wildcat16: what are you dl with?  most browswer dl are not resumable.  apt will restart, I think.
[03:15] <Zewey> Nergar: it worked? cool :)
[03:15] <Zewey> Nergar: sorry for borking your settings though...
[03:15] <teenbeat> ok, how do i find out wich disk is what
[03:15] <blackguy_chillin> FUCK YOU ZEWEY YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
[03:15] <Zewey> dude.
[03:15] <BehindYou> woah
[03:15] <Broady> spliiiiiiiit
[03:16] <dkbg> !split
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about split - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <dkbg> !netsplit
[03:16] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:16] <Whtiger> hehe
[03:16] <wildcat16> how big can this get?
[03:16] <Whtiger> er
[03:16] <wildcat16> .5 hour long lol
[03:16] <pluma> omg omg omg. It worked.
[03:17] <FordCortina> !pastebin
[03:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:17] <Nergar> i guess i'll restore the files, let the downloads finish then erase and reconfigure
[03:17] <FordCortina> where can i actually *download* some pastebin software
[03:17] <alex_mayorga> how do I get a Xircom CEM56 pcmcia card working on my laptop?
[03:17] <wolfspiri1> questions about how apache2 is set up with ubuntu.. tried configuring /usr/share/apache2/config/default to change the documentroot to /var/www/html and even after a restart it still defaults to /var/www  please help
[03:18] <alex_mayorga> I've googled up and down, without any luck
[03:18] <laptop> HELP I typed:
[03:18] <FordCortina> ?
[03:18] <laptop> laptop@laptop2:~$ /home/laptop/Desktop/Realplayer10GOLD.bin
[03:18] <laptop> bash: /home/laptop/Desktop/Realplayer10GOLD.bin: No such file or directory
[03:18] <laptop> ANd it wont install
[03:18] <arrenlex> laptop: Why are you trying to install realplayer?
[03:18] <laptop> And its on the desktop
[03:18] <laptop> Why not.
[03:18] <laptop> Becauseit plays all types of media?
[03:18] <laptop> :/
[03:18] <arrenlex> laptop: Because it's ugly terrible useless POC that plays almost nothing?
[03:18] <arrenlex> laptop: LOL, not like the free players!
[03:19] <crdlb> laptop, you don't want realplayer
[03:19] <placebohigh> Any ideas?
[03:19] <arrenlex> laptop: MPlayer plays anything....
[03:19] <laptop> Gimme an alternative.
[03:19] <teenbeat> this is something i probaly overreaded
[03:19] <arrenlex> laptop: mplayer, vlc, xine.
[03:19] <fghj_> I need to get libstdc++.so.5 (rather than libstdc++.so.6 ... how can I do this?
[03:19] <teenbeat> deleting the oem user
[03:19] <teenbeat> with sudo
[03:19] <laptop> mplayer wont play the wmv clips.
[03:19] <teenbeat> then you become root user am i right
[03:19] <pluma> RealAlternative... or is that Windows only?
[03:19] <Zewey> laptop: if you have w32codecs installed almost everything will play almost anything
[03:19] <arrenlex> laptop: Yes it will, you just need w32codecs.
[03:19] <crdlb> laptop, with w32codecs it will
[03:19] <gouki> !codecs
[03:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:19] <laptop> how can I do that....
[03:20] <arrenlex> laptop: Download and install this package: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[03:20] <pluma> Downloading file 29 of 223... Ah, the joy of updating a fresh install.
[03:21] <pluma> Oh, and in case anybody else is prone to this kind of trouble: Don't ever ever put /etc on a different partition. Apparently that was the cause of my box not booting. Either that or the lack of mojo.
[03:21] <BehindYou> haha
[03:22] <placebohigh> pluma: as in different colored lines which don't actually display anything, looks like the video card died if you've ever seen it
[03:22] <placebohigh> but i can boot the livecd just fine, which i did after booting from the cd in safe mode and installed from there hoping it was a driver issue or something
[03:23] <laptop> OMFG !!! BBQ!!! that link auto installed, that is the ABSOLUTE first time thats happened, why cant it ALWAYS work like that@?@??
[03:23] <laptop> ALWAYS?
[03:23] <pluma> placebohigh: Sounds like a driver problem to me. But then again, I just spent three hours or more wondering why my box won't boot without configuration files...
[03:23] <BehindYou> lol
[03:23] <laptop> Why isnt EVERYTHING out ther .deb with installer like that!!??!!???
[03:23] <laptop> wtf
[03:23] <pluma> I was convinced I had /etc on its own partition before and remembered that putting stuff on different partitions is always a good thing. I guess there are exceptions to every rule.
[03:23] <laptop> poeple LIKE doing things in more steps than necessary?
[03:24] <placebohigh> that's what i was maybe thinking..is there a way to boot strait to console after installation maybe?
[03:24] <teenbeat> ok can i change the password with the cd without reinstalling again\
[03:24] <placebohigh> i go from bios post to wierd low-res lines :/
[03:24] <teenbeat> something went wrong with the password
[03:24] <pluma> teenbeat: I think so. You can switch to the console regardless, though. Unless the vga mess actually locks your box up.
[03:25] <BehindYou> pluma: they mean, user information, not system information..
[03:25] <pluma> Erm. Wrong addressee
[03:25] <BehindYou> oops
[03:25] <pluma> placebohigh: Alt+Ctrl+F1 should get you to a console usually
[03:25] <laptop> HOW can i adjust Firefox so it uses the mplayer to play ALL WMV embedded video!!!????
[03:26] <arrenlex> laptop: Run this command: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer totem-mozilla-
[03:26] <arrenlex> laptop: The - at the end is important.
[03:26] <laptop> okay
[03:26] <pluma> placebohigh: Hm... wait. Do you have multiple VGA outs?
[03:26] <romeo_> how do i check how much free space i got on my hdd?
[03:26] <arrenlex> romeo_: df
[03:26] <romeo_> arrenlex: Thanks
[03:27] <arrenlex> romeo_: df -H might be more readable
[03:27] <pluma> Pfft. Who needs -H anyway.
[03:27] <laptop> Sorry
[03:27] <romeo_> arrenlex: Much better, was just wondering :)
[03:28] <enderxim> Is there a decent tutorial on upgrading to the newest kernel at kernel.org for ubuntu/linux in general? I found little help at ubuntuforums.org after a little searching.
[03:28] <alex_mayorga> how do I install a package to a different kernel than the one I'm running?
[03:28] <arrenlex> laptop: Sorry for what?
[03:28] <pluma> Oh, also df --si is a bit more standards compliant.
[03:28] <laptop> Do I have to RESTART for the CODECS to take effect???
[03:28] <laptop> I accidentally pressed the X on this program
[03:28] <redwyrm> how would I load the default Ubuntu GTK theme in another window manager/session?
[03:28] <arrenlex> laptop: NO, you do not have to RESTART for the CODECS to TAKE EFFECT.
[03:28] <arrenlex> laptop: On what PROGRAM?
[03:29] <laptop> Firefox
[03:29] <laptop> the whole system?
[03:29] <pluma> laptop: Please don't capitalise random words like that. It looks very loud.
[03:29] <shark-1> how is ubuntu pronounced?
[03:29] <laptop> ....sorry, did you say "Looks loud"?
[03:29] <arrenlex> shark-1: oo-boon-too
[03:29] <arrenlex> laptop: Yes. And it does.
[03:30] <pluma> laptop: Internet etiquette.
[03:30] <laptop> huh?
[03:30] <shark-1> its not like you-buntu right?
[03:30] <arrenlex> laptop: You only need to restart firefox.
[03:30] <xenos> is it really oo-boon-too?
[03:30] <joeyk_> thats how i say it
[03:30] <laptop> okay
[03:30] <crimsun> xenos: yes, it is.
[03:30] <arrenlex> xenos: Yep.
[03:30] <xenos> I've been saying you-bun-too.
[03:30] <xenos> that's unfortunate.
[03:30] <teenbeat> i cant get in ubuntu
[03:30] <DaveG|> i say it as oo bun too
[03:30] <pluma> laptop: All-caps is used for the equivalent of screaming. It's impolite.
[03:30] <shark-1> same
[03:30] <arrenlex> I started pronouncing it uhbuntwo.
[03:30] <joeyk_> i call it debian
[03:30] <joeyk_> lol
[03:30] <teenbeat> how do a change the pasword without reinstalling again
[03:30] <xenos> lol
[03:30] <vafada> how do i disable autostart when i insert a CD?
[03:30] <DaveG|> i call it linux really
[03:30] <DaveG|> :O
[03:30] <arrenlex> Just like I originally called debian, deebian.
[03:31] <arrenlex> And I called Linux Lienux.
[03:31] <laptop> Capital letters means screaming? who made that up?
[03:31] <arrenlex> And suse "soos". xD
[03:31] <laptop> silly
[03:31] <arrenlex> I cannot pronounce any Linux names ever.
[03:31] <ant> i used to call linux lienucks until i actually heard soemone say it
[03:31] <Marupa> is there a program like kdialog but for gnome?
[03:31] <Pollywog> I say oo-boon-too because that seems logical to me and I think I saw Nelson Mandela on a video and that is how he pronounced it
[03:31] <xenos> I called linux "lienux" for a long time as well
[03:31] <laptop> its just emphasis in font form, its being read not heard.....am I crazy?
[03:31] <joeyk_> gentoo is pretty easy to say ;)
[03:31] <pluma> I'm German, so I pronounce it Oo-boon-too. With the middle syllable short.
[03:31] <arrenlex> joeyk_: You're right! :D That's the only one I never had trouble with.
[03:31] <laptop> anyway
[03:31] <alex_mayorga> laptop, IRC has come a long way
[03:32] <pluma> Also, lee-noox. With the second one short.
[03:32] <xenos> I'm American, so I ignore what the proper pronunciation may be and say it however I feel like
[03:32] <laptop> okay
[03:32] <arrenlex> zeenose: okay.
[03:32] <Pollywog> xenos: you can be President ;)
[03:32] <alex_mayorga> laptop, read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette
[03:32] <laptop> so, now the video will play but I have no controls, no play button, forward button, no sound controls........is that normal??
[03:32] <xenos> My thoughts exactly
[03:32] <pluma> Oh, yes please. And make creationism a criminal offense.
[03:33] <arrenlex> laptop: No. Did you restart firefox after installing mplayer?
[03:33] <xenos> nah. I'm all about freedom.
[03:33] <DM|> is there a DHCP log in ubuntu
[03:33] <laptop> Its says "(No Video)" then all of a suffen it starts playing
[03:33] <laptop> sudden
[03:33] <arrenlex> laptop: No. Did you restart firefox after installing mplayer?
[03:33] <laptop> Yes.'
[03:33] <Pollywog> freedom means ppl are free to make stupid choices so long as nobody gets hurt
[03:33] <laptop> can I tell which player it is using?
[03:33] <arrenlex> laptop: Go to about:plugins in firefox and pastebin the page.
[03:33] <placebohigh> pluma, i'm late answer - the video card does have a VGA connector and an lcd connector, though i am using the regular crt connector
[03:33] <ant> freedom is the reason most people get hurt...
[03:33] <Marupa> I just want something faster than kdialog, cause that takes about ten seconds to pop up.
[03:33] <arnina_> maybe there is a syntax error in Documentation/networking/NAPI_HOWTO.txt,line 687:"nay" should be "may"
[03:33] <laptop> pastebin the page?
[03:34] <laptop> about:plugins ?
[03:34] <arrenlex> laptop: Yes. Press ctrl+a to select the page, ctrl+c to copy it, and ctrl+v to paste it into pastebin.
[03:34] <arrenlex> laptop: Yep.
[03:34] <xenos> Pollywog, I don't see how creationism violates the rights of thers
[03:34] <enderxim> arrenlex, I had the same problem after installing the vlc mozilla plugin
[03:34] <xenos> others*
[03:34] <laptop> in this room?
[03:34] <pluma> placebohigh: Hm... nevermind then. I had striped garbage on my primary screen when I booted Ubuntu with both screens connected, but it usually doesn't do that when only one is plugged in.
[03:34] <arrenlex> laptop: ...why is this so hard?
[03:34] <Pollywog> it doesn't
[03:34] <arrenlex> laptop: Do you see the firefox window?
[03:34] <Broady> laptop, paste it into pastebin
[03:34] <xenos> okay, didn't know if that's what you were saying.
[03:35] <froyd> hy peps
[03:35] <froyd> :d
[03:35] <laptop> where is pastebin?
[03:35] <arrenlex> !pastebin | laptop
[03:35] <ubotu> laptop: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:35] <laptop> is that a channel?
[03:35] <Broady> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:35] <arrenlex> laptop: It's a website where you upload your text to the internet and give us the link to what you uploaded.
[03:35] <xenos> man, these terminal colors are killing my eyes.
[03:35] <SurfnKid> i think im goiing back to dapper
[03:35] <SurfnKid> edgy is giving me a problem starting gnome up
[03:35] <arrenlex> SurfnKid: Enjoy your outdated software. ^^
[03:35] <SurfnKid> and i have no idea what causes it
[03:36] <laptop> Oh cool
[03:36] <laptop> thats a cool concept
[03:36] <laptop> wow
[03:36] <SurfnKid> arrenlex: yeah i gotta see what it is
[03:36] <laptop> here it is
[03:36] <laptop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11428/
[03:36] <Pollywog> I had a similar problem when I tried gdm in Edgy
[03:36] <ant> i am having the hardest time just getting X to recognize my new bitmap fonts
[03:36] <SurfnKid> Pollywog: what was it causingg
[03:36] <Pollywog> but I think it has been fixed
[03:36] <Pollywog> IIRC a file was missing
[03:36] <Netboy541> where is the equivalent to /etc/modprobe.conf?
[03:36] <Pollywog> is it an error about a missing file?
[03:36] <SurfnKid> hmmm
[03:37] <SurfnKid> it says it cant load Gnome Settings Manager
[03:37] <JN_Coward> I am trying to symlink a directory, the directory exists but ln -s complains that it does not :( any ideas?
[03:37] <placebohigh> pluma, ok, thanks for your time. I'm resetting my bios with cmos and then i'll try seeing if i can get to console or not
[03:37] <Pollywog> I got an error about a missing file so I switched to kdm but I think the problem is gone now
[03:37] <SurfnKid> I login... and it takes about 5 minutes for the desktop to show up, and another 5 mins to have the panels available, then an error shows up with that description, this all happened after I had several updates installed
[03:37] <Netboy541> anyone?
[03:38] <Pollywog> JN_Coward: what command are you using?
[03:38] <Pollywog> you might have it slightly backwards
[03:38] <JN_Coward> polywog: ln -s /home/jonas/rails/td/shared/polaroids /home/jonas/rails/td/releases/20070322022610/public/images/polaroids
[03:38] <SurfnKid> Pollywog: glad it works, i like the acpi features on edgy, dapper still needs improvement but it does the job
[03:38] <efface> i used automatix to install vmware...but i do not see vmware in the normal folder its suppose to be in
[03:38] <efface> is there a way to test if its been installed
[03:39] <LeoJr> can anyone offer help installing to nvidia raid array?
[03:39] <ant> !automatix | efface
[03:39] <ubotu> efface: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:39] <cafuego_> LeoJr: is there another OS on that already?
[03:39] <Netboy541> can someone tell me where i can find the same thing as /etc/modprobe.conf ?
[03:39] <laptop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11428/
[03:39] <redwyrm> Netboy541, instead of a file, it's a directory: /etc/modprobe.d
[03:39] <LeoJr> yes, winxp64
[03:39] <Pollywog> JN_Coward: which one is the directory?
[03:39] <cafuego_> then I can't help
[03:39] <Netboy541> thank you redwyrm
[03:39] <DM|> is there a DHCP log in ubuntu
[03:39] <JN_Coward> the first
[03:39] <arrenlex> laptop: Whoa.
[03:39] <mqueiros> hello! Can anyone recommend an Wireless network card that will work out of the box in ubuntu 6.06 ?
[03:39] <Netboy541> that was what i was thinking... just needed confirmation
[03:40] <JN_Coward> pollywog: the first
[03:40] <laptop> arrenlex:  no good?
[03:40] <arrenlex> laptop: You have two different plugins installed for EVERY file.
[03:40] <Pollywog> JN_Coward: then it should work
[03:40] <laptop> lol
[03:40] <arrenlex> laptop: for flash: macromedia and gnash
[03:40] <laptop> I screwed it up
[03:40] <arrenlex> laptop: for video: mplayer, vlc and realplayer
[03:40] <JN_Coward> pollywog: anything I can try?
[03:40] <efface> !vmware
[03:40] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:40] <laptop> Will that hurt anything?
[03:40] <laptop> arrenlex:  cant I choose?
[03:40] <Pollywog> JN_Coward: do you already have symlinks in that directory?
[03:40] <laptop> arrenlex:  shouldnt i have all becuase some work well with others?
[03:40] <arrenlex> laptop: If I were you I would remove the extra packages, or they will keep stepping on each others' feet.
[03:41] <Pollywog> in other words are you chaining symlinks
[03:41] <laptop> eeek
[03:41] <arrenlex> laptop: To start, remove the mozilla-plugin-vlc package.
[03:41] <JN_Coward> polyywog: yes, but I didn't create them myself
[03:41] <laptop> any particular one you would remove especially?
[03:41] <Kooka> cya all
[03:41] <laptop> vlc sucks?
[03:41] <gossrock> mqueiros: the wireless card on my laptop worked great ... let me see what it is ...
[03:41] <vafada> how do i disable autostart when i insert a CD?
[03:41] <Pollywog> JN_Coward: I did not think that would work, chaining them
[03:41] <arrenlex> laptop: Nope, vlc is a great player. But you're going to have to pick one of mplayer or vlc.
[03:41] <Pollywog> and it is messy
[03:41] <joeyk_> te
[03:41] <mqueiros> gossrock: sorry... I was thinking on a PCI for my desktop...
[03:42] <arrenlex> laptop: Which is an equally great player, and I happen to be familiar with it, but not with vlc, so I can help you with mplayer, but not with vlc.
[03:42] <laptop> whichever is best
[03:42] <laptop> They really interfer?
[03:42] <laptop> okay
[03:42] <laptop> add/remove ?
[03:42] <arrenlex> laptop: Yes, remove that package. mozilla-vlc-plugin
[03:43] <arrenlex> laptop: er, mozilla-plugin-vlc
[04:00] <wildcat16> is there a gaim under KDE?
[04:00] <laptop> okay
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Then explain to me how (and why) you installed gnash.
[04:00] <zen> If a linux-image package fails to install, how do I retry the installation?  It's not appearing on upgrade anymore.
[04:00] <arrenlex> wildcat16: You can run gaim under KDE (I do) or use kopete
[04:00] <laptop> I dont even know what gnash is
[04:00] <wildcat16> arrelex: thx
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: It's a free flash player that doesn't, er, work.
[04:00] <addam1> is there a way to search within a text box in fire fox?
[04:00] <arrenlex> addam1: Yes, use firefox 2.
[04:00] <LadyNikon> addam1: ctrl f?
[04:00] <addam1> ctrl f just searches a webpage
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> wildcat16: You can run gaim in KDE if you wish.  The native near-equivalent is Kopete.
[04:00] <addam1> not the text boxes within it
[04:00] <daaku> anyone got xorg working with 720p hdtv? - i cant seem to figure out why it ignores my modeline. also, it uses EDID/DCC info even though i ask it not to
[04:00] <arpegius> how do i kill all processes utilizing /dev/abcxyz?
[04:00] <arrenlex> addam1: ctrl+f, in firefox 2.
[04:00] <arrenlex> arpegius: fuser -mk /dev/abcxyz
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Then, paste the output of this command: dpkg -l "*gnash*" | grep ^ii
[04:00] <addam1> arren: i'm glad they fixed that then, it was awful
[04:00] <arrenlex> addam1: Hell yes.
[04:00] <addam1> ;)
[04:00] <arpegius> arpegius: damn... i'm on os x and the fuser command doesn't exist.
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy
[04:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:00] <arrenlex> arpegius: Then wtf are you doing asking for help in #ubuntu?
[04:00] <arpegius> arrenlex: like anyone who uses os x knows anything about the terminal
[04:00] <arrenlex> arpegius: lol, well, as you can see, the solutions aren't compatible enough.
[04:00] <arpegius> just thought id give it a shot
[04:00] <arpegius> freebsd != unix
[04:00] <laptop> Oh snap
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Then, paste the output of this command: dpkg -l "*gnash*" | grep ^ii
[04:00] <gossrock> mqueiros: acordding to lshw it's an intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG, my guess is that other intel cards should be a good place to look even though it's on a Desktop
[04:00] <laptop> Well
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  my mplayer now WORKS, you were right!  and i will do this now dpkg -l "*gnash*" | grep ^ii
[04:00] <laptop> Escept
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  except the mplayer doesnt have volume control, is that normal?
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: There is no volume control slider. Use your system's volume control.
[04:00] <laptop> ahhh
[04:00] <laptop> thats less convenient.
[04:00] <laptop> but I can live with it.
[04:00] <ant> you figured they coulda put that in there
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Yes, but better than nothing.
[04:00] <laptop> I did this: dpkg -l "*gnash*" | grep ^ii
[04:00] <laptop> tomas, why?
[04:00] <hoth> small quick question  please?
[04:00] <laptop> what did that do? (dpkg -l "*gnash*" | grep ^ii)
[04:00] <arrenlex> !ask | hoth
[04:00] <ubotu> hoth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Did it print any output?
[04:00] <tomas_> it just seems to work better for me
[04:00] <laptop> Yes
[04:00] <laptop> it did
[04:00] <laptop> should I pastbin it?
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Is it two lines or less?
[04:00] <blu> how do i get around buffer i/o on hdc when installing edgy?
[04:00] <laptop> 3 lines
[04:00] <tomas_> and it seems to have better deinterlace options
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Hm... you can paste three lines here. But not more.
[04:00] <blu> and null expected error?
[04:00] <laptop> ii  gnash                0.7.2-1~edgy1  free Flash movie player
[04:00] <laptop> ii  libgnash0            0.7.2-1~edgy1  free Flash movie player - shared libraries
[04:00] <laptop> ii  mozilla-plugin-gnash 0.7.2-1~edgy1  free Flash movie player - Plugin for Mozilla
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Ah, taht explains it.
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Okay, remove those three packages in synaptic.
[04:00] <hoth> Thanks...how do I setup a vpn from Ubuntu to my windows workstation...firewall does accect VPN connection
[04:00] <laptop> Okay
[04:00] <laptop> I had no idea one program messes with another in linux
[04:00] <mqueiros> gossrock: ok! Thanks! I will take a look at it!
[04:00] <ant> !vpn
[04:00] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[04:00] <justininkuna> any ideas on why sudo apt-get update wouldn't work?
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: The programs don't interfere with one another. But their plugins supersede one another in firefox.
[04:00] <tomas_> justininkuna, what happens?
[04:00] <justininkuna> connection errors
[04:00] <johnficca> Hey if I zip a folder in ubuntu linux will someone on a windows box be able to open and view it?
[04:00] <cafuego_> johnficca: Yes
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Firefox finds a flash file and it looks at its list of programs that can handle flash, and it sees: gnash and adobe. So it picks the first one. But gnash doesn't really work very well.
[04:00] <genii> johnficca: Yes
[04:00] <johnficca> thank you
[04:00] <tomas_> might be a source in sources.list that is down?
[04:00] <gossrock> mqueiros: no prob.
[04:00] <laptop> Okay done
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Similarly, firefox finds an embedded movie and looks at its list of everything that can play embedded movies. It sees: vlc, mplayer, realplayer. It picks the first one: vlc. But you want mplayer.
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  I always get this error though: E: linux-igd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:00] <johnficca> what is the command to zip something
[04:00] <justininkuna> It seems to work from other boxes that I have, just not this new box
[04:00] <johnficca> ?
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Well that's not good.
[04:00] <tomas_> and you use the same mirrors?
[04:00] <efface> does VMware work out of the box so to say? I just did apt-get vmware-player and i cant really tell much on getting windows running, believe i still need a server?
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: linux-igd - Linux UPnP Internet Gateway Device
[04:00] <hendaus> hiya
[04:00] <tomas_> odd if that is the case
[04:00] <wilberfan> I lost all my sound on my backup box within the last 2 or 3 days, and the only changes I've made to it are applying the updates....
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: I've never seen that package before. Do you need that?
[04:00] <hendaus> can anyone help
[04:00] <wilberfan> There are a few of us with this problem:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=389408
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  i do this and get onthing  dpkg -l "*gnash*" | grep ^ii
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  which one?
[04:00] <arcturu> I am confused about access file input data. would i use request.POST.FILES['myfile']  <input type="file" name="myfile" /> to retrieve the data from said file?
[04:00] <justininkuna> yes, the same mirrors, I've even tried some different mirrors
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: linux-igd - Linux UPnP Internet Gateway Device
[04:00] <wilberfan> anyone in here experience this?   (Or have any ideas on how to remedy?)
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  I dont know.
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: ...I don't like that it's failing to remove. Have you added any third-party repositories?
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  probably.
[04:00] <tomas_> i have sadly absolutely no idea then, other than suggesting that you check your internet settings like dns, firewall and so on
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: That's not good.
[04:00] <arcturu> oops wrong room haha
[04:00] <tomas_> and try see if you can open the mirrors with a browser
[04:00] <ant> whats wrong with 3rd party repos?
[04:00] <laptop> Actually no I havent
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  actually no i havent
[04:00] <laptop> I only checkmarked all the ones
[04:00] <justininkuna> tomas_: I have checked that stuff, but I can't find any errors
[04:00] <laptop> havent added any
[04:00] <hendaus> i want to configure xgnokii to change the port
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: lol... okay.
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Type this command: sudo apt-get install linux-igd. Paste any output that you get.
[04:00] <houmala> Help.. how do you and what do I need to setup laptop wireless (Atheros / AMBIT) with ndiswrapper?
[04:00] <justininkuna> tomas_: I can use wget to get some of the files that I can't seem to get
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  with the period?
[04:00] <mrnhat> quick question-- just in hopes that someone else has come across this-- Ubuntu will not load on my laptop. After the main loading bar [before the graphical loading]  is complete, it tries to load the OS, and I get a visually gross crash.
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: apt-get install linux-igd
[04:00] <mrnhat> Looks like a video error of some sort... but I'm not sure how to solve it
[04:00] <sum0> anyone have a mirror for the automatix debs?
[04:00] <shark-1> give me a reason to switch to ubuntu
[04:00] <arrenlex> shark-1: From what?
[04:00] <arrenlex> !automatix | sum0
[04:00] <ubotu> sum0: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:00] <shark-1> windows
[04:00] <laptop> okay
[04:00] <tomas_> justininkuna, i never experienced anything similar :\
[04:00] <arrenlex> shark-1: What's important to you in a computer?
[04:00] <houmala> how about no blue screens
[04:00] <justininkuna> tomas_, I'll keep trying thanks
[04:00] <shark-1> id say it but id get banned
[04:00] <tomas_> <--- bedtime
[04:00] <wilo> can someone help me with beryl:
[04:00] <wilo> this is my problem
[04:00] <wilo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11430/
[04:00] <erichj> wilo: #ubuntu-effects
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11431/
[04:00] <arrenlex> houmala: windows xp doesn't blue-screen except where third parties are involved. It's a remarkably stable piece of software..
[04:00] <trango> Anybody here dealt with kacpid constantly eating up huge amounts of CPU (70-90%)? This is on a default 6.10 install; there are some forum posts mentioning this but no solution.
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: Hm... what about sudo apt-get remove linux-igd
[04:00] <houmala> need help and or info about ndiswrapper
[04:00] <arrenlex> genii: ?
[04:00] <mrnhat> nobody has come across a video area [while loading the OS]  here? I've had this happen on two computers now
[04:00] <mrnhat> *error, not area.
[04:00] <Joshooa> mmhat Are you sure the install cd/dvd is good?
[04:00] <laptop> arrenlex:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11432/
[04:00] <genii> arrenlex:  XP/blue screen
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: lol, wtf.
[04:00] <laptop> what?
[04:00] <arrenlex> genii: XP blue-screens for you?
[04:00] <hellhound> hi
[04:00] <beg1689> can aynone help me? this is so frustrating, i just want to sit on my couch with my laptop but the wifi wont work... drivers are fine, gets an address from dhcp, sets default gateway, etc. but i cant even ping the router, anyone have nay ideas at all that could help?
[04:00] <laptop> did I do it wrong?
[04:00] <arrenlex> laptop: No, no, you did everything fine. The package is broken, though. It won't install or remove.
[04:01] <laptop> arrenlex:  I cant manually delete it?
[04:01] <firefly2442> Is there a way to enable remote desktop via Preferences -> Remote Desktop  but do it using the commandline?
[04:01] <arrenlex> laptop: It would still be listed as installed in the database... let me think.
[04:01] <genii> arrenlex In my lab with 4 systems running it (XP pro, SP2) about once a week on each box. Pretty consistent
[04:01] <beg1689> what is the name of the gnome gui for configuring services?
[04:01] <hellhound> can someone tell me where to find the "disk mounter" GUI utility for ubuntu edgy?
[04:01] <beg1689> services-admin? doesnt seem to lisdt everything
[04:02] <arrenlex> laptop: Probably some third-party drivers. I ran windows XP for four-five years and I've never seen a BS on it.
[04:02] <arrenlex> laptop: Er, that's not for you,s orry.
[04:02] <arrenlex> genii: Probably some third-party drivers. I ran windows XP for four-five years and I've never seen a BS on it.
[04:02] <laptop> oh
[04:02] <hellhound> can someone tell me where to find the "disk mounter" GUI utility for ubuntu edgy?
[04:02] <laptop> I was like "wtf" you know?
[04:02] <arrenlex> laptop: I'd imagine. xD
[04:02] <hendaus> somebody help?
[04:03] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know of a backup utility that will backup to DVD-size chunks?
[04:03] <mythos__> good morning
[04:03] <arrenlex> laptop: As for you, run this command and pastebin the output: sudo dpkg --purge /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-igd*.deb
[04:03] <genii> arrenlex: No, it's that it constantly replaces the 3rd party nvidia drivers with it's own which it thinks are better on each automatic update that causes it. I have to replace the MS drivers with the nvidia ones to get it good again
[04:03] <arrenlex> genii: Just blacklist that update.
[04:03] <whta> ahhhhh i downloaded 7zip from synaptic but i have no clue how to run it
[04:04] <gossrock> hendaus: what do you need?
[04:04] <mythos__> hellhound, there isn't a "disk mounter GUI" in ubuntu-edgy ... probably in feisty get a new one
[04:04] <hellhound> err help please
[04:04] <hellhound> mythos__, ok
[04:04] <amFyZWQ> is there a command to list every user on the box?
[04:05] <cafuego_> amFyZWQ: getent passwd
[04:05] <DarthFrog> amFyZWQ: "cat /etc/passwd | less"
[04:05] <laptop> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11433/
[04:05] <cafuego_> DarthFrog: Ugh
[04:05] <hendaus> gossrock,  thanx, i need to configure xgnokii coz the configuration is wrong
[04:05] <DarthFrog> cafuego_: It works. :-)
[04:05] <amFyZWQ> oh
[04:05] <amFyZWQ> k
[04:06] <amFyZWQ> and what was that command to show
[04:06] <amFyZWQ> disk usage?
[04:06] <hendaus> gossrock,  i want to change the port
[04:06] <arrenlex> laptop: Oh, sorry. sudo dpkg --purge linux-igd
[04:06] <cafuego_> DarthFrog: at *least* use 'less /etc/passwd' then. However, it doesn't list users that may be able to log on using remote auth, whereas getent does.
[04:06] <beg1689> can anyone help me with my wireless internet? are there any programs that are known to interfere with it? when i restart network or run dhclient it says theres already a pid file, but then says it connects successfully, and reports the IP it was assigned, even though dhclient was not running already
[04:07] <gossrock> hendaus: sorry I don't know xgnokii.  I will poke around though ...
[04:07] <Yggdrasil> can somone help me, somethings going on with my .bashrc when i open a terminal window i get no colors for different files, i edited my .bashrc file and . after i type bash then iget colors
[04:07] <DarthFrog> cafuego_: "cat /etc/passwd | less" and "less /etc/passwd" are pretty much one and the same.  But thanks for telling me about getent, I wasn't aware of it before.
[04:07] <hendaus> gossrock,  another problem how could i configure the monitor to switch off after 20 minutes
[04:08] <cafuego_> DarthFrog: No, one needs to start twice as many binaries and thus is slower and sues more ram ;-)
[04:08] <laptop> arrenlex:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11434/
[04:08] <DarthFrog> cafuego_:   Ok, sure what ever you say. :-)
[04:09] <arrenlex> laptop: Okay, getting closer. Now this: sudo bash -x /etc/init.d/upnpd stop
[04:09] <gossrock> hendaus: that I might be able to help with ... I'm on Dapper so it may be a bit different ... let me check to be sure ... stand by.
[04:09] <hellhound> mythos__, how can I tell Linux to remount certain partitions when the system boots?
[04:09] <cafuego_> `cat' is the most useless command ever
[04:09] <arrenlex> laptop: Wait, actually
[04:09] <arrenlex> laptop: This instead: sudo bash -xv /etc/init.d/upnpd stop
[04:09] <DarthFrog> cafuego_: cat is very useful, in the right circumstances.  "cat file1 file2 > file3"
[04:09] <cafuego_> I should file a bug to have it removed from coreutils
[04:09] <arrenlex> cafuego_: Are you crazy, that is my single most used command.
[04:09] <Dasnipa`> cafuego, cat is hardles useless
[04:10] <Dasnipa`> hardly*
[04:10] <laptop> arrenlex:  okay
[04:10] <hellhound> how can I tell Linux to remount certain partitions when the system boots?
[04:10] <arrenlex> hellhound: By putting them into /etc/fstab
[04:10] <hellhound> ok
[04:10] <eV64> I just followed the guide to get bcm43xx wireless working with fwcutter and installed network-manager-genome but network-manager-genome is only seeing my wired nics and not my wireless.
[04:10] <DarthFrog> cafuego_: Methinks you are a dog lover. :-)
[04:10] <laptop> arrenlex:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11435/
[04:10] <mythos__> hellhound, partitions, which are in the fstab, will be remounted automaticly after a reboot
[04:10] <gossrock> hendaus: under dapper you would go to the System Menu -> Preferances --> Power Management
[04:11] <dougb> is it safe to update from dapper to edgy?
[04:11] <dougb> i remember it wasn't when edgy was first released
[04:11] <gossrock> hendaus: there you should have options for both when it's pluged in and when it's not ... (I'm on a laptop)
[04:12] <yellow_chicken> how to split a 4 GB file into four  1GB file and put it back together?
[04:12] <mythos__> hellhound, i hope my english is quite readable ^^
[04:12] <arrenlex> laptop: Run this command: gksu gedit /etc/default/upnp
[04:12] <arrenlex> laptop: Remove the # before the lines ext interface and internal interface
[04:12] <DarthFrog> yellow_chicken: Use "split" and "cat".
[04:12] <eV64> yellow_chicken, man split
[04:12] <laptop> huh?
[04:13] <arrenlex> laptop: huh what?
[04:13] <laptop> oh okay
[04:13] <laptop> I get it
[04:13] <yellow_chicken> DarthFrog: works with binary files?  say it's a windows executable.
[04:13] <DarthFrog> yellow_chicken: It works with any file.  There's nothing special about an executable file.
[04:13] <sam_> yo cav your nick'
[04:14] <arrenlex> laptop: Did you do that without problems?
[04:14] <yellow_chicken> DarthFrog: great.  eV64: thanks
[04:14] <teenbeat> are there any programs for dvd editing like exsample adobe encore dvd
[04:14] <hendaus> gossrock,  ok i have edgy,i enter system settings -> display -> powersaving
[04:14] <eV64> yellow_chicken, no problem
[04:14] <laptop> arrenlex:  Im trying to figure out what happened an editor opened but displayed nothing
[04:14] <DarthFrog> yellow_chicken: Just remember to put them back in the right order. :-)
[04:14] <eV64> network-manager-gnome not seeing my wireless bcm43xx setup with fwcutter (it does detect my wired nics and my wireless is working)
[04:15] <gossrock> hendaus: ah good, that was easy :)
[04:15] <teenbeat> or programmes like adobe illustrater
[04:15] <laptop> arrenlex:  Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:15] <arrenlex> laptop: .... that doesn't sound good.
[04:15] <yellow_chicken> DarthFrog: haha. it does matter
[04:15] <hendaus> gossrock,  i put 20 minutes,the monitor switchoff but the green color on the power still not orange why?
[04:15] <arrenlex> laptop: For some reason I'm seeing that a lot lately.
[04:15] <arrenlex> laptop: On this channel.
[04:15] <laptop> arrenlex:  coded problem?
[04:16] <arrenlex> laptop: I don't know, I've never seen it myself, and never seen it resolved... maybe try searching on the forums when we're done.
[04:16] <gossrock> hendaus: hmm, not sure, it may be that what the power saving is doing is just sending a black screen (I'm not sure though)
[04:16] <arrenlex> laptop: Anyway, run this command: sudo nano /etc/default/upnp
[04:16] <arrenlex> laptop: This will open a console-based text editor. Arrow keys to move around. Remove those two #.
[04:16] <kkerwin> Hi. Anyone had any luck with an Orinoco 8480-WD card?
[04:16] <arrenlex> laptop: Remove the # before the lines ext interface and internal interface
[04:17] <arrenlex> laptop: When you're done that, if there were no problems, press ctrl+x, type y, and hit enter.
[04:17] <hendaus> gossrock,  i want the monitor to switch off with the orange color
[04:17] <laptop> arrenlex:  completely blank
[04:17] <arrenlex> laptop: Hmm... Okay, close that: ctrl+x.
[04:17] <laptop> okay
[04:18] <eV64> anyone used network-manager-gnome?
[04:18] <yellow_chicken> DarthFrog: a good way to test, is ... 1) md5sum bigFile.unknown  2) split it, 3) cat it, 4) md5sum that file and compare sum?
[04:18] <arrenlex> laptop: What's the output of: "file /etc/default/upnpd"
[04:18] <DarthFrog> yellow_chicken: That works.  And very well, too.
[04:18] <sam_> so cinelerra gives me a core dump in 7.04 do we have a fix
[04:19] <Shrimpy_> is there a way to find the file you just installed via tar.gz
[04:19] <chas3d1> hey mates! can anybody help me with a wifi card?
[04:19] <laptop> arrenlex:  /etc/default/upnpd: ASCII English text
[04:19] <DarthFrog> Shrimpy_: tar isn't an installer.
[04:20] <arrenlex> laptop: ...what the heck?!
[04:20] <eV64> chas3d1, depends, i'm a noob but i just got mine working
[04:20] <gossrock> hendaus: I've never had that problem but that's because I only have run Ubuntu on a laptop and I don't have the orang light ... Does the Dialoge say Power Management Preferences at the top and have 3 tabs in it (checking to see if we are looking at the same dialoge)
[04:20] <teenbeat> are there any programs for dvd editing like exsample adobe encore dvd and illustrator in linux
[04:20] <blu> anyone know if you can split an iso file like the new ubuntu 1.6 gb into 3 disks and put it on a cdr?
[04:20] <Shrimpy_> DarthFrog: i did make file and and then it made dir (?) what do i need to do now?
[04:20] <laptop> arrenlex:  thats the line that came up
[04:20] <amFyZWQ> what is the command to show disk usage?
[04:20] <Ltar> how to install  a gimp extension? I downloaded a binary file, where do I put it?
[04:20] <arrenlex> laptop: Okay, hit the up arrow to bring back that command. Hit the "home" button to go back to the beginning of the line. Press delete until you get to the end of "file" being erased. Then type "sudo nano". It should end up reading "sudo nano /etc/default/upnpd". Press enter.
[04:20] <DarthFrog> Shrimpy_: go into that directory and poke about. :-)
[04:20] <arrenlex> amFyZWQ: df -H
[04:21] <chas3d1> ev64 - i'm a noob too mate. It's bcm4303 and it's powered on... but it's not functioning
[04:21] <Shrimpy_> DarthFrog: ok lol
[04:21] <laptop> OKay
[04:21] <DarthFrog> amFyZWQ: df -h
[04:21] <amFyZWQ> yeah
[04:21] <amFyZWQ> thanks
[04:21] <eV64> chas3d1, i just got my bcm43xx working, sec i'll get you a link
[04:21] <laptop> arrenlex:  oh yeah that worked, now I take out the number signs?
[04:21] <arrenlex> laptop: Yep.
[04:21] <arrenlex> laptop: Remove the # before the lines ext interface and internal interface
[04:21] <hendaus> gossrock,  display-system Settings
[04:22] <hellhound> HELP WANTED: How come after installing the apache2 packages on edgy, the system services gtk utility doesn't show any entry for this http server?
[04:22] <eV64> chas3d1, for legal reasons, ubuntu can't include the driver.  What you basically do is get the windows driver then use a program to make it work with linux.  A step-by-step guide is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:22] <kkerwin> Hi. Anyone had any luck with an Orinoco 8480-WD card?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> hellhound: Isn't it a daemon, not a service?
[04:22] <arrenlex> laptop: When you're done that, if there were no problems, press ctrl+x, type y, and hit enter.
[04:23] <laptop> done
[04:23] <laptop> it said the file, and I pressed enter
[04:23] <arrenlex> laptop: run: sudo /etc/init.d/upnp start
[04:23] <hellhound> tonyyarusso : yes it is
[04:23] <placebohigh> Anyone know anything more about installing with an nvidia card? I installed ubuntu through the safe mode gui installer just fine, and the Ubuntu splash screen looks fine on startup, but once it begins to boot the screen goes messed up. As in random lines like the display is compeletely wrong. Any ideas?
[04:23] <chas3d1> eV64 - thanks mate. Any words of wisdom?
[04:23] <arrenlex> laptop: Paste any output.
[04:23] <laptop> okay
[04:23] <laptop> arrenlex:  sudo: /etc/init.d/upnp: command not found
[04:23] <hellhound> daemons are services in Linux
[04:24] <eV64> chas3d1, read it carefully, ctrl shift v is paste in terminal, be careful not to copy a space in front of the commands
[04:24] <DarthFrog> daemon = Disk And Environment MONitor.
[04:24] <chas3d1> eV64 - haha, I've run into that problem before!
[04:24] <peeps> hey guys, gnome froze up on my other computer, does anyone know any way I might be able to recover it without exiting all the programs I had open?
[04:24] <arrenlex> laptop: Oh, right. sudo /etc/init.d/upnpd start
[04:24] <peeps> i can still ssh to it
[04:24] <eV64> chas3d1,  and download http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o as the guide says
[04:24] <gatekeep> eV64: is your bcm43xx mini-PCI? and whos the manufacturer of your card? cuz I have a dell OEM and it was SLOW AS CRAP with bcm43xx used ndiswrapper got massive speed
[04:25] <DarthFrog> peeps: SSH in and kill the frozen process.
[04:25] <hellhound> HELP WANTED: How come after installing the apache2 packages on edgy, the system services gtk utility doesn't show any entry for this http server?
[04:25] <peeps> DarthFrog, well i can't tell which process caused the problem.  cpu usage is very low.  i killed a couple things but no go
[04:25] <eV64> gatekeep, it's a linksys wmp54g(v2), it's working fine, using it now.  I remember last time i did the ndiswrapper and didn't have any luck although i'm less stupid now than I was then
[04:25] <peeps> the cursor won't even move
[04:25] <laptop> arrenlex:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11437/
[04:26] <DarthFrog> peeps: Can't you see what's frozen with top?
[04:26] <gossrock> hendaus: sorry but I seem to be of no help.
[04:26] <gatekeep> ev64: i just mention it cuz i know if your card is a newer revision
[04:26] <gatekeep> ev64: and it uses the newer drivers it has problems ... (ie 4.00 drivers)
[04:26] <peeps> DarthFrog, how would I know which process is frozen?
[04:26] <arrenlex> laptop: Run this again: "sudo nano /etc/default/upnpd"
[04:26] <phasegen> does anyone know if you can configure wpa without messing up wep?
[04:27] <DarthFrog> peeps: you could issue a "kill -15 " to the open apps. This will allow them to close cleanly.
[04:27] <hendaus> gossrock,  ok
[04:27] <arrenlex> laptop: Press alt+k until the file is blank. Then, paste the following two lines into it:
[04:27] <arrenlex> laptop:EXT_IFACE=ppp0
[04:27] <arrenlex> INT_IFACE=eth0
[04:27] <laptop> OKAY
[04:27] <Broady> do that
[04:28] <Broady> and your computer will explode
[04:28] <arrenlex> laptop: Why are you yelling now? xD
[04:28] <eV64> gatekeep, all seems well now.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102 is that the ndiswrapper guide you used?  I just pointed chas3d1 to the fwcutter because it worked for me
[04:28] <laptop> oh sorry
[04:28] <eV64> gatekeep, chas3d1, i'll brb
[04:28] <laptop> lol
[04:28] <arrenlex> laptop: To confirm: that file contains only two lines, and they are:
[04:28] <arrenlex> EXT_IFACE=ppp0
[04:28] <arrenlex> INT_IFACE=eth0
[04:28] <laptop> yelling, *sigh*
[04:28] <arrenlex> laptop: Correct?
[04:28] <laptop> yes
[04:28] <arrenlex> laptop: ctrl+x, y, enter
[04:28] <laptop> do I save now?
[04:28] <gatekeep> ev64: since im using Feisty, it was different but yes i did
[04:29] <yellow_chicken> DarthFrog: how to tell split to use human readiable bytes? as in ls -ah
[04:29] <arrenlex> laptop: sudo /etc/init.d/upnpd start
[04:29] <Shrimpy_> DarthFrog: turn out i did all the work to find out the file is .exe grrrh
[04:29] <DarthFrog> yellow_chicken: "man split".  It's been a very long time since I used it.
[04:29] <laptop> arrenlex:
[04:29] <laptop> laptop@laptop2:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/upnpd start
[04:29] <laptop> Starting Linux IGD Daemon: upnpd.
[04:29] <arrenlex> laptop: OMG, amazing! It actually worked!!
[04:29] <DarthFrog> Shrimpy_: Well, you've now had a learning experience. :-)
[04:29] <laptop> haha
[04:29] <arrenlex> laptop: Okay, now sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-igd
[04:29] <laptop> Im not even sure what we just accomplished.
[04:30] <laptop> oh yeah were trying to remove that broken package
[04:30] <arrenlex> laptop: We managed to fix the package, so that we can remove it.
[04:30] <laptop> haha
[04:30] <laptop> fixed to remove...
[04:30] <sam_> yo punisher look to the left
[04:30] <peeps> is there some command to restart x but keep all open windows somehow?
[04:30] <arrenlex> yellow_chicken: You can just put k or m at the end of your size.
[04:30] <Shrimpy_> DarthFrog: ok i found it as a package (should have looked into that) but is there a way to find it?
[04:30] <arrenlex> laptop: Pastebin the output.
[04:30] <DarthFrog> Shrimpy_:  yes.  the "find" command.  It is *extremely* powerful.
[04:31] <yellow_chicken> arrenlex: ok thanks
[04:31] <arrenlex> laptop: (hopefully this is the last thing)
[04:31] <chas3d1> eV64 - just let me know when you're back
[04:31] <DarthFrog> peeps: Nope.
[04:31] <laptop> arrenlex:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11438/
[04:31] <arrenlex> laptop: HAHAHA. We fail again!
[04:31] <laptop> lol
[04:31] <laptop> story of my life
[04:31] <kkerwin> Hi. Anyone had any luck with an Orinoco 8480-WD card? It's a PCMCIA card.
[04:32] <DarthFrog> peeps:  X is a single process.  All the apps run as sub-processes.  Kill the X process and all the apps are zombies.
[04:32] <peeps> ok
[04:32] <arrenlex> laptop: I'm so sick of this... just do this: echo true | sudo tee /etc/init.d/upnpd
[04:33] <Shrimpy_> DarthFrog: i typed that into the command line and it show crazy stuff. is there a gui one
[04:33] <laptop> arrenlex:  lol okay
[04:33] <DarthFrog> Shrimpy_:  A GUI for what, sorry?
[04:33] <arrenlex> laptop: Then run sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-igd again.
[04:33] <laptop> arrenlex:  true
[04:33] <Shrimpy_> DarthFrog: the find
[04:33] <blu> this is why you should get a linux that works like vector linux
[04:33] <arrenlex> laptop: True what?
[04:33] <laptop> laptop@laptop2:~$ echo true | sudo tee /etc/init.d/upnpd
[04:33] <DarthFrog> Shrimpy_: Probably.  Try beagle.
[04:33] <laptop> true
[04:33] <arrenlex> laptop: Oh, yes. True. Yep.
[04:33] <peeps> what about restarting metacity?  i know that can be done because I have done it through Beryl Manager
[04:34] <arrenlex> laptop: Then run sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-igd again.
[04:34] <steve_> sup everyone
[04:34] <laptop> okay
[04:34] <Shrimpy_> DarthFrog: ok thanks for your help! ( i found the command line to run the package i installed!!!)
[04:34] <steve_> is there a switch that lets you install unmet dependencies for apt-get
[04:34] <steve_> whe you install a prog
[04:34] <eV64> chas3d1, how's it goin?
[04:34] <DarthFrog> Shrimpy_: what was the command you used?  "dpkg -i"?
[04:35] <chas3d1> eV64 - it says it can't find the package
[04:35] <laptop> arrenlex:  here ya go  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11441/
[04:35] <Shrimpy_> DarthFrog: negative. it was the file name (i used synaptic)
[04:35] <arrenlex> laptop: THANK GOD. UGH.
[04:35] <eV64> do you have an internet connection on the computer right now?
[04:35] <DarthFrog> Shrimpy_: Good stuff.
[04:35] <arrenlex> laptop: I totally had you do something that's not allowed, though, to force it to remove, so you should restart your system to make sure you don't have the program you just uninstalled still running...
[04:35] <laptop> arrenlex:  hahaha, what did we accopmlish by removing that?
[04:35] <Shrimpy_> DarthFrog: have a good dayQ
[04:35] <laptop> okay i'll br right back.
[04:36] <arrenlex> laptop: We accomplished your package system not being broken. You might have issues installing or removing packages, now or in the future.
[04:36] <eV64> chas3d1, do you have internet on the computer right now?
[04:36] <chas3d1> eV64 - of course
[04:36] <DarthFrog> arrenlex: you might suggest "apt-get -f install".
[04:36] <eV64> what line are you pasting in?
[04:36] <addams> is there some sort address bar in ubuntu that i can add so i can just launch urls ?
[04:36] <arrenlex> DarthFrog: No, this package didn't install or remove. Bad initscript.
[04:37] <chas3d1> eV64 - sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:37] <DarthFrog> arrenlex: Bad developer, no cookies for you!!
[04:37] <eV64> chas3d1, do you have restricted enabled?
[04:37] <peeps> Is there at least a way to restart X remotely?
[04:37] <arrenlex> DarthFrog: wtf, I'm not a developer. I just try to help people untangle when the developers mess up.
[04:37] <eV64> chas3d1, sorry, universe
[04:37] <chas3d1> eV64 - what is that?
[04:37] <DarthFrog> arrenlex: I wasn't meaning you. :-)
[04:38] <arrenlex> DarthFrog: Oh, okay... yeah, bad developer. xD
[04:38] <DarthFrog> peeps: Yes. in the SSH session, issue these commands "export DISPLAY=:0 && startx"
[04:39] <arrenlex> laptop: Yo. Still alive?
[04:39] <laptop> arrenlex: okay back
[04:39] <laptop> yeah
[04:39] <eV64> chas3d1, it's another repository.  Basically a server that apt-get looks at and can download from.  did you do step 1 of the instructions?  1 ) Ensure you have access to the other ubuntu repos
[04:39] <eV64> follow the intructions on the second heading from this page to ensure you have the universe enabled
[04:39] <eV64> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Package...iversePackages
[04:39] <laptop> arrenlex:  what did we erase?
[04:39] <yellow_chicken> arrenlex: yup, works very nice
[04:39] <laptop> arrenlex:  in a nutshell what did we do?
[04:39] <DarthFrog> peeps: actually, don't do that.
[04:39] <chas3d1> eV64 - i will do that right now
[04:39] <peeps> woops
[04:39] <peeps> too late
[04:39] <arrenlex> laptop: Er, the "Linux UPnP Internet Gateway Device" package.
[04:39] <DarthFrog> peeps: instead of "startx", do "nohup startx &" :-)
[04:40] <DarthFrog> peeps: No big deal. Just kill the X process.
[04:40] <eV64> chas3d1, cool, then try sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter again
[04:40] <annihilus> hey everyone, im brand new to linux, can someone point me in the right direction ro getting my wireless card working (intel proset 3495) ..  oh yeah and pelo can take it out if he wants :)
[04:40] <arrenlex> laptop: I have no idea what that does or if you needed it, but it's not like you could start it anyway, so you don't have less functionality now than before.
[04:40] <DarthFrog> peeps: kill -15 (X process ID)
[04:40] <eV64> anyone here use network-manager-gnome, it's not seeing my wireless eth2
[04:40] <chas3d1> eV64 - i just did it. we are back in business
[04:40] <dude_> hello can some one help   is there a standalone downloader
[04:40] <Pelo> !wireless | annihilus , cause I don't know anything about wireless
[04:40] <arrenlex> dude_: wget
[04:40] <ubotu> annihilus , cause I don't know anything about wireless: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:41] <eV64> chas3d1, did you download that file to your desktop yet?
[04:41] <annihilus> ubotu, thanks
[04:41] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:41] <laptop> arrenlex:  you know I downloaded a *.wmv file to my desktop now It wont play with Totem or Helix
[04:41] <j0sh0> Hi can someone help me with problems I'm having setting up 6.10 on my ASUS P5B-MX WIFI-AP mobo????
[04:41] <arrenlex> laptop: Also, I'm really curious as to what your repositories look like. Please pastebin: grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:41] <chas3d1> eV64 - it has just completed
[04:41] <dude_> arrenlex: its for i think win nt at a public library
[04:41] <Pelo> great  I type the trigger and the bot gets the thanks,   this is realy improving my mood
[04:42] <arrenlex> dude_: You want a downloader for windows nt?! Why are you asking on #ubuntu?
[04:42] <eV64> chas3d1, good.  on to step 4
[04:42] <bruenig> arrenlex, genius
[04:42] <eV64> !windows | dude
[04:42] <ubotu> dude: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:42] <peeps> hmm, doesn't work DarthFrog
[04:42] <peeps> nohup startx &
[04:42] <arrenlex> laptop: Why not play it in mplayer?
[04:42] <dude_> arrenlex: i want to download a newer ubuntu my dial up is slow 39hours last time
[04:42] <laptop> it says "Totem Mplayer" and it doesnt play.
[04:42] <j0sh0> has anyone had any experience with ASUS motherboards and built in gigabit ethernet?
[04:43] <peeps> DarthFrog peeps ~>nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
[04:43] <peeps> it just says that and sits there
[04:43] <bruenig> laptop, totem mplayer, some sort of bizarre hybrid?
[04:43] <laptop> bruenig:  perhaps?
[04:43] <laptop> thats what it says
[04:43] <dude_> arrenlex: how long does it take to order?
[04:43] <DarthFrog> peeps: "export DISPLAY=:0 && nohup startx &" in the SSH session. If there isn't already an X session going, in which case you'll have to do "DISPLAY=:0.1" or something like that.
[04:43] <arrenlex> laptop: lol, totem mplayer is like excel word. xD
[04:43] <bruenig> dude_, edgy can't be ordered, and generally about 6 weeks
[04:43] <Pelo> laptop,  you probably need the restricted modules for the codecs and stuff   !restricted
[04:43] <laptop> arrenlex:  wow, Ive screwed this up.
[04:44] <hendaus_> hello friends
[04:44] <arrenlex> laptop: Hold up. Mplayer doesn't appear in the list?
[04:44] <Pelo> !restricted | laptop
[04:44] <ubotu> laptop: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:44] <laptop> oh?
[04:44] <arrenlex> Pelo: He was w32codes already.
[04:44] <darkholme> hello everybody!
[04:44] <darkholme> could you please help me with this:
[04:44] <darkholme> How can i use a projector in Ubuntu Edgy?? it has installed the "nvidia" driver
[04:44] <dude_> bruenig: any suggestions or is 39 hours download
[04:44] <laptop> arrenlex:  yeah it does but when it playes it says Totem Mplayer
[04:45] <Pelo> darkholme,  just a guess but set it up as a monitor ?
[04:45] <arrenlex> laptop: lol, I'm so confused... if you run the command "gmplayer" from the terminal, does the window that opens look the same as the one that says Totem Mplayer right now?
[04:45] <hendaus_> helpers, i need a program for my cellphone nokia 6230 , !
[04:45] <Pelo> laptop,  use open with in the context menu
[04:45] <bruenig> dude_, download it, or download somewhere else
[04:45] <j0sh0> Hi can someone please help me get my asus integrated wifi-ap working?/??
[04:45] <laptop> arrenlex:  Totem Movie Player 2.16.2
[04:45] <darkholme> I was wondering the same, but I didn't found any information about doing it correctly....I tried just adding a new monitor in the xorg.conf
[04:45] <bruenig> 39 hours is less than two days come on
[04:45] <arrenlex> laptop: Is that a yes?
[04:46] <dude_> bruenig: thanks
[04:46] <laptop> No loooks different
[04:46] <hendaus_> somebody help me please
[04:46] <arrenlex> laptop: omgwtf.
[04:46] <enderxim> dude_, maybe you could get a burned cd from somebody you know with a faster connection?
[04:47] <arrenlex> laptop: Wait, is "totem" what pops up when you double-click the file?
[04:47] <laptop> yes
[04:47] <hendaus_> i use on windowsxp Nokia_PC_Suite_682_rel_22_0_eng_web.msi,but still not have this program for kubuntu linux
[04:47] <eV64> hendaus, you need to be more specific. and this really isn't a cellphone forum.
[04:47] <arrenlex> laptop: Oh! Then it's just the default player.
[04:47] <Pelo> gK'night folks
[04:47] <laptop> Fatal Error: opening initializing the selected video_out  (-vo) device
[04:47] <arrenlex> laptop: That pops up when you do what?
[04:47] <arrenlex> laptop: Does totem even play the movie?
[04:48] <laptop> but even gmplayer doesnt play it
[04:48] <eV64> hendaus, there is a chance it may work with bluetooth, have you looked into that?  google may be more helpful
[04:48] <laptop> neither play it
[04:48] <darkholme> how can I use a projector with the nvidia driver?
[04:48] <arrenlex> laptop: gmplayer says bad vo device?
[04:48] <eV64> a projector is hooked up just like a standard monitor darkholme
[04:48] <laptop> exactly
[04:48] <laptop> arrenlex:  yup
[04:49] <arrenlex> laptop: Right-click on the window and go to options or preferences or whatever. Look for something that says "video output" or "vo". Change it to "xv".
[04:49] <arrenlex> laptop: Sorry I can't be more exact, I don't use the mplayer gui. xD
[04:49] <laptop> In Codecs and demuxer the family is marked None
[04:50] <laptop> lots of codecs to choose from
[04:50] <hendaus_> i use on windowsxp Nokia_PC_Suite_682_rel_22_0_eng_web.msi,but still not have this program for kubuntu linux thanx to everyhelper ??
[04:50] <arrenlex> laptop: Like what? Give me a couple names.
[04:50] <smo> hi
[04:50] <laptop> There are 15
[04:51] <laptop> 20
[04:51] <arrenlex> laptop: Give me a couple names.
[04:51] <smo> i have a problem i can t use any of the tty!! i just have a message user not known to the authentication module can t find solution on google
[04:51] <beg1689> somebody PLEASE help me... i dont understand why my connection wont work
[04:51] <laptop> Null video decoder
[04:51] <laptop> arrenlex:  Null video decoder
[04:51] <beg1689> paste in a second
[04:51] <eV64> hendaus, do the phone and computer have bluetooth support?
[04:51] <arrenlex> laptop: Okay, another name, please.
[04:51] <laptop> FFmpeg's libavcodec codec fam
[04:51] <eV64> beg1689, specifics please
[04:51] <teenbeat> nice 1 answer out of 4 questions
[04:51] <arrenlex> laptop: Oh. That's not the right thing.
[04:52] <laptop> Theora/VP3
[04:52] <laptop> Win32/VfW video codecs
[04:52] <laptop> LZO compressed Video
[04:52] <arrenlex> laptop: That's enough, that's enough.
[04:52] <laptop> okay
[04:52] <beg1689> im trying to connect to a wireless network using an ipw3945, dhclient says its getting an IP (after the 3d try) but it doesnt work, i dont know what the problem is, ill paste some output in a second
[04:52] <gatekeep> eV64: i believe hendaus is asking if there is a program like that one for Kubuntu ... which I don't believe there is...
[04:52] <arrenlex> laptop: Yeah, don't touch that box... look for "video out". If you can't find it, send me a screenshot at http://konstant.ls.la/upload.html
[04:52] <eV64> !pastebin | beg1689
[04:52] <ubotu> beg1689: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:53] <beg1689> i know, dont worry
[04:53] <eV64> ok
[04:54] <beg1689> http://rafb.net/p/8tlL1y57.html <--- trying to connect
[04:54] <hendaus__> i use on windowsxp Nokia_PC_Suite_682_rel_22_0_eng_web.msi,but still not have this program for kubuntu linux thanx to everyhelper ??
[04:54] <ed1t> where can u download fiesty fawn from?
[04:54] <ed1t> i*
[04:54] <beg1689> http://rafb.net/p/stIavk64.html <--iwconfig
[04:54] <laptop> okay
[04:58] <smo> user not known to the underlying authentication module ---- any idears on this message ??? i can t use my tty now ....
[04:58] <gatekeep> begl689: your connected to your wireless.. because DHCP returned an IP address ... do you have any firewall scripts or anything like that?
[04:58] <laptop> arrenlex:  there is a tab for video and onr for audio
[04:58] <arrenlex> laptop: video.
[04:58] <eV64> beg1689, an easy solution may be to set a static ip using system>administration>networking
[04:58] <laptop> arrenlex:  okay
[04:58] <JiBEsH> could someone tell  me how can i emulate a cisco router ?
[04:58] <eV64> beg1689, is your subnet 255.255.255.0?
[04:58] <beg1689> yes
[04:58] <beg1689> i tried a static IP, doesnt seem to make a difference
[04:58] <beg1689> i dont think there is a firewall problem, how can i check?
[04:58] <JN_Coward> is it possible to run mod_proxy_balancer under Apache2.0?
[04:58] <beg1689> wired connection works fine, this is wireless
[04:58] <laptop> arrenlex:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11444/
[04:58] <gatekeep> begl689: if you didn't install anything for it (which i dont think you did) you don't have to bother ... but to check iptables -L
[04:58] <eV64> beg1689, do you have a wep/wpa key or mac filtering on your router/ access point?
[04:58] <beg1689> no mac filter, just wep
[04:58] <beg1689> i checked the key several times, and other wireless devices connect fine
[04:58] <arrenlex> laptop: lol... that's not what I was asking for. Fine, I'll install the mplayer gui and help you, hold on.
[04:58] <eV64> beg1689, if wep is not working, it usually shows connectivity but nothing will work.
[04:58] <gatekeep> eV64: he is connected, because the AP returned an IP
[04:58] <eV64> gatekeep, oh, you're right
[04:58] <beg1689> i have another computer running ubuntu 6.10 connecting wirelessly, as well as an xbox with an adapter, a nDS
[04:59] <JN_Coward> mod_proxy_balancer under Apache2.0 possible or im?
[04:59] <arrenlex> laptop: This tab. Was that so hard? http://arrenlex.ls.la/screenshots/19895.png
[04:59] <laptop> arrenlex:  what were you asking for,
[04:59] <beg1689> what am i looking for in iptables -L that would cause a problem?
[04:59] <arrenlex> laptop: There, select "xv" like I have.
[04:59] <laptop> Yeah I found that tab
[05:00] <arrenlex> laptop: In the audio tab, select "alsa"
[05:00] <gatekeep> begl689: unless you played with it, it should return nothing but ACCEPT
[05:00] <laptop> okay
[05:00] <beg1689> yes it seems to return an IP but it looks like it gives an error the first two times: http://rafb.net/p/8tlL1y57.html
[05:01] <eV64> beg1689,  has this device worked under windows
[05:01] <beg1689> yes
[05:01] <beg1689> still does
[05:01] <gatekeep> begl689: iptables should return: http://rafb.net/p/Ph6W2j25.html
[05:01] <arrenlex> laptop: Does it play now?
[05:01] <beg1689> http://rafb.net/p/3CDKsG90.html
[05:01] <laptop> arrenlex:  wow, is there anything you can do?
[05:01] <beg1689> mine has a bunch of crap
[05:01] <gatekeep> begl689: its a firewall problem ... something is blocking ICMP
[05:01] <arrenlex> laptop: ouch :( don't be mean.
[05:02] <beg1689> ok.. so how can i clear all that out
[05:02] <laptop> Sorry
[05:02] <laptop> shit I meant CANT
[05:02] <laptop> +t
[05:02] <arrenlex> laptop: lol, whatever. Freudan slip.
[05:02] <laptop> no
[05:02] <laptop> hardly
[05:02] <laptop> thank you
[05:02] <arrenlex> laptop: Don't thank me yet, now we have to make your system actually use mplayer.
[05:02] <laptop> ahh
[05:02] <beg1689> oh i got it cleared.. turns out i installed firestarter awhile back and forgot about it
[05:02] <laptop> it plays
[05:03] <beg1689> ill try to connect now
[05:03] <arrenlex> laptop: Do you want to remove totem, or do you just want to change the settings?
[05:03] <laptop> yes
[05:03] <rsa_md5> ppl I have a problem with the libncurses5 package
[05:03] <rsa_md5> pls help me out
[05:03] <arrenlex> laptop: "Do you want option 1 or option 2?" "yes"
[05:03] <laptop> well seems that totem is useless....also I ahve a player called Helix and it is useless too...
[05:03] <beg1689> still there
[05:03] <laptop> remove.
[05:03] <gatekeep> begl689: odd
[05:03] <laptop> option 2
[05:03] <laptop> Sorry
[05:03] <laptop> 1
[05:04] <laptop> Remove....
[05:04] <yell0w> laptop, xmms and mplayer is the way to go
[05:04] <beg1689> ?
[05:04] <beg1689> it works yay
[05:04] <laptop> and Helix seems useless too, any thouhgts
[05:04] <laptop> xmms is a player?
[05:04] <laptop> thoughts
[05:04] <gatekeep> begl689: told you firewall?
[05:04] <gatekeep> err :)
[05:04] <yell0w> laptop, for music
[05:04] <gatekeep> wow my typing is getting bad as the night wears on
[05:04] <laptop> plays mp3's?
[05:04] <beg1689> yea i opened firestarter and clicked disable, now iptables is empthy
[05:04] <yell0w> laptop, yes
[05:04] <arrenlex> laptop: xmms is a clone of winamp
[05:04] <gatekeep> begl689: all is well now?
[05:04] <beg1689> and im connected on wirless now
[05:04] <laptop> arrenlex:  can I do it through synaptics?
[05:04] <laptop> arrenlex:  cool.
[05:05] <yell0w> laptop, they all do, as long as you get the right codecs ;)
[05:05] <laptop> I like winamp
[05:05] <arrenlex> laptop: dpkg -l "*mplayer*" | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get remove --purge -y
[05:05] <beg1689> thanks for the help
[05:05] <arrenlex> laptop: NO
[05:05] <gatekeep> np begl689 anytime
[05:05] <arrenlex> laptop: Don't run that, lol
[05:05] <laptop> dont run that?
[05:05] <laptop> okay
[05:05] <arrenlex> laptop: Run this instead: dpkg -l "*totem*" | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get remove --purge -y
[05:05] <placebohigh> !ask Anyone know anything more about installing with an nvidia card? I installed ubuntu through the safe mode gui installer just fine, and the Ubuntu splash screen looks fine on startup, but once it begins to boot the screen goes messed up. As in random lines like the display is compeletely wrong. Any ideas?
[05:05] <eV64> beg1689, we all get ID10T errors occasionally. :)
[05:05] <eV64> make*
[05:05] <gatekeep> lol
[05:05] <gatekeep> id 10 t
[05:05] <gatekeep> lol
[05:05] <gatekeep> always loved that joke
[05:06] <gatekeep> so ev64: what release are you using Edgy?
[05:06] <eV64> yup, waiting for the official of feisty, i have enough trouble as is
[05:06] <gatekeep> lol
[05:06] <gatekeep> guess its just fiesty then
[05:06] <eV64> how long have you been on ubuntu?
[05:06] <gatekeep> but bcm43xx sucks BAD
[05:06] <cafuego_> arrenlex: awk ' /^ii/ {print $2}'
[05:06] <gatekeep> since Woary
[05:06] <eV64> yeah, stupid proprietary
[05:07] <ed1t> hello my wireless card is installed and i also have wireless network added....but it seems like my wireless radio is turned off....how do i turn it on?
[05:07] <yell0w> gatekeep, i just got bcm4218 up and running yesterday
[05:07] <yell0w> first try ;)
[05:07] <gatekeep> fiesty?
[05:07] <arrenlex> cafuego_: lol, these commands just keep getting shorter and shorter.
[05:07] <eV64> hah
[05:07] <eV64> ed1t, what card?
[05:07] <gatekeep> I got it working
[05:07] <gatekeep> that wasn't the problem
[05:07] <laptop> arrenlex:  that removed a lot
[05:07] <gatekeep> it was MAD slow
[05:07] <cafuego_> arrenlex: :-)  yeah, less piping == more speed i reckon.
[05:07] <arrenlex> laptop: What did it remove?
[05:07] <yell0w> gatekeep, oh well....
[05:07] <eV64> yell0w, just got mine today
[05:07] <eV64> working*
[05:07] <yell0w> gatekeep, i think it runs on b mode, so that's why it's slow
[05:07] <ed1t> eV64, Intel 2915ABG
[05:07] <cafuego_> arrenlex: He'll probably want to purge for status 'rc' as well.
[05:07] <arrenlex> cafuego_: Gasp, you get to save one program launch, that's almost half a nanosecond!!!
[05:07] <gatekeep> yea i think it does
[05:08] <yell0w> eV64, cool ;)
[05:08] <gatekeep> yell0w: yea it does, hence slowness .. but it was BAD slow ...
[05:08] <laptop> arrenlex:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11447/
[05:08] <dogmeat> which dir contains the daemon startup bash scripts, i.e. /etc/rc/httpd ?
[05:08] <yell0w> gatekeep, it was ok with me, not to bad
[05:08] <gatekeep> yell0w: we're talking about slower then 56k slow ... switched to ndiswrapper ... fast again ...
[05:08] <arrenlex> laptop: lol, you know, that was a bad idea.
[05:08] <gatekeep> yell0w: well it could be that my card is a newer release, requires 4.xx drivers
[05:08] <yell0w> gatekeep, what i'd really want is a new network-manager
[05:09] <gatekeep> ;)
[05:09] <laptop> arrenlex:  oh?
[05:09] <JN_Coward> is there an easy way to upgrade to Apache2.2 from 2.0?
[05:09] <yell0w> gatekeep, it's pretty decent speed on my 4318
[05:09] <arrenlex> laptop: Looks like random things depend on it... you'll want to "sudo apt-get install gedit" again. Tell me if that installs totem.
[05:09] <cafuego_> dogmeat: /etc/init.d
[05:09] <cafuego_> dogmeat: with symlinks in /etc/rc?.d/
[05:09] <arrenlex> laptop: You'll also probably want sudo apt-get install gtkwifi
[05:09] <laptop> okay
[05:09] <gatekeep> yell0w: well getting my wireless working wasn't my happy moment, getting my ATI X1300 w/ Xgl and partial 3D acceleration was
[05:09] <dogmeat> cafuego_: thanks
[05:09] <yell0w> gatekeep, i hear ya
[05:09] <yell0w> hehe
[05:10] <stiv2k> help
[05:10] <gatekeep> god damn ATI
[05:10] <Fizzbane> how do i install icons?
[05:10] <gatekeep> they must burn for their retardation
[05:10] <gatekeep> icons you say?
[05:10] <gatekeep> extract the icon package to a .icons in your home dir
[05:10] <laptop> Package gtkwifi is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:10] <laptop> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:10] <laptop> is only available from another source
[05:10] <laptop> E: Package gtkwifi has no installation candidate
[05:10] <gatekeep> then select it from the themes thingy
[05:14] (laptop/#ubuntu) arrenlex:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:14] (teenbeat/#ubuntu) i fel lik going for frisby party
[05:14] (laptop/#ubuntu) oooops
[05:15] (laptop/#ubuntu) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11448/
[05:15] (gatekeep/#ubuntu) ed1t: does it have the Fn - Fkey to turn on wireless
[05:15] (ed1t/#ubuntu) gatekeep, the wireless light on my laptop should be blinking....it blinked once when i installed network-manager and stuff
[05:15] (ed1t/#ubuntu) gatekeep, no
[05:15] (gatekeep/#ubuntu) odd
[05:15] (teenbeat/#ubuntu) ok
[05:15] <yell0w> teenbeat, do a reboot, when GRUB menu appears press "e" in the default entry boot
[05:16] <teenbeat> ok one moment
[05:16] <gatekeep> ed1t: im assuming you can't connect to any access points and the like
[05:16] <yell0w> teenbeat, append "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel options, and you shoot be booted into root shell
[05:16] <ed1t> gatekeep, correct
[05:16] <yell0w> teenbeat, from there, sudo adduser username blah blah blah....
[05:16] <gatekeep> ed1t: what wireless device did you say it was?
[05:16] <arrenlex> laptop: I would remove edgy-proposed if I were you. I don't like that line.
[05:17] <ed1t> gatekeep, Intel 2915ABG
[05:17] <yell0w> teenbeat, correction, don't really need sudo when you're already in a root shell
[05:17] <teenbeat> yell0w: i did im in the shell
[05:17] <yell0w> teenbeat, good,
[05:17] <ed1t> gatekeep, the network shows up in the network manager but its got a key with red wave signs by it
[05:17] <yell0w> now do adduser usernamethatyouwant
[05:17] <arrenlex> laptop:  sed -i "s|deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed|#deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed|g" /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <teenbeat> i see root, quiet etc
[05:18] <laptop> okay
[05:18] <gatekeep> ed1t: usually means a locked WPA or WEP network
[05:18] <ed1t> im entering the right key.....i dont think its a key problem, its the wireless radio problem, it just wont blink
[05:18] <ed1t> gatekeep, ooo yea its WPA
[05:18] <bean-oh> can anyone tell me when herd 6 is getting released?
[05:18] <arrenlex> laptop: Oh, you'll need sudo on the front of that.
[05:18] <laptop> okay
[05:18] <yell0w> teenbeat, then set the passwd for both root/thatusername
[05:18] <ed1t> gatekeep, i bet if i re-do all the steps i did it will turn back on
[05:18] <ed1t> gatekeep, i followed http://ubuntu-tutorials.blogspot.com/2007/02/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in.html
[05:19] <teenbeat> yell0w: in wich part i see root, kernel, initrd
[05:19] <paozinho> I :make me a sandwich ! Brother: No ! I: sudo Make me a sandwich ! Brother: Yes
[05:19] <gatekeep> ed1t: you could try that... i would say if one of your neighbors has a AP near by see if you can connect real quick if you can its something you might have missed
[05:19] <jtraub> bean-oh, check bean-oh
[05:19] <laptop> arrenlex:  thanks
[05:19] <yell0w> teenbeat, are you in a root shell ?
[05:19] <laptop> arrenlex:  what should i do now?
[05:19] <hlm> herd 6 should be released around April 6
[05:19] <arrenlex> paozinho: I've seen that before. xD
[05:19] <jtraub> bean-oh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[05:19] <teenbeat> yell0w: in grub i pressed once e
[05:19] <gatekeep> ed1t: thats assuming there are any unsecured AP's near by
[05:19] <arrenlex> laptop: Hmm... do you know how to change what application files open with when you double-click on them?
[05:20] <bean-oh> jtraub, thanks! i was looking for something like that
[05:20] <ed1t> gatekeep, none coz its a university network
[05:20] <nn531> can anyone in here direct me towards some desklets? I cant get adesklets to work and gdesklets suck
[05:20] <gatekeep> ed1t: hmmmm
[05:20] <bruenig> !info conky
[05:20] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[05:20] <bean-oh> wanted to try feisty, but looking at herd 1-5 releases, it looks like another version was due soon,
[05:20] <teenbeat> yell0w: do i have to press e again
[05:20] <BigCanOfTuna> I killed my default groups off my main user, now I can't sudo into root. How do I get to root and restore my groups?
[05:20] <rukos> how do I know if I'm running a 64 bit kernel?
[05:20] <arrenlex> rukos: uname -r
[05:20] <eV64> BETA TOMORROW :)
[05:20] <bruenig> bean-oh, you can get nightly snapshots
[05:20] <icicled> BigCanOfTuna, use a live cd & edit the /etc/group file
[05:20] <icicled> not sure how else you can
[05:21] <gatekeep> ev64: for what?
[05:21] <eV64> gatekeep, feisty
[05:21] <gatekeep> ed1t: try reloading dbus again according to that article ...
[05:21] <gatekeep> ev64: bah beta!
[05:21] <jtraub> rukos, uname -r
[05:21] <BigCanOfTuna> icicled: I know in Redhat you could go to init level one...not sure if that makes sense in Ubuntu.
[05:21] <eV64> gatekeep, and os x leopard comes out 24th (according to rumors)
[05:21] <J-_> With Ubuntu Studio coming this april, will I be able to install it just like any Ubuntu DM?
[05:21] <paozinho> arrenlex: Good not ? :P
[05:21] <ed1t> gatekeep, k
[05:21] <gatekeep> ev64: fiesty is cool
[05:21] <gatekeep> ev64: it really is
[05:21] <bruenig> J-_, DM?
[05:21] <J-_> Desktop Manager.
[05:22] <arrenlex> paozinho: It doesn't really make sense to me.
[05:22] <eV64> gatekeep, i may get the beta
[05:22] <rukos> arrenlex : how do I know?  if it doesn't say 64 somewhere, it's not?
[05:22] <icicled> BigCanOfTuna, you can reboot & in grub there should be some option for rescue
[05:22] <teenbeat> yell0w: or do i need to make new line
[05:22] <bruenig> J-_, I doubt studio has its own desktop manager
[05:22] <gatekeep> ev64: have fun :)
[05:22] <arrenlex> rukos: What does it say?
[05:22] <icicled> BigCanOfTuna, you might try that
[05:22] <eV64> gatekeep, what are the new features/ what does taht mean :-o
[05:22] <bruenig> J-_, probably just gnome with a different selection of apps
[05:22] <BigCanOfTuna> icicled: Thanks dude.
[05:22] <arrenlex> rukos: 64-bit kernels will specify "amd64"
[05:22] <gatekeep> ev64: if you need to be bailed out of trouble i might be around
[05:22] <icicled> np
[05:22] <bean-oh> heh, if i get a new mac book, i'll be using a lot less ubuntu :(
[05:22] <yell0w> teenbeat, yes, press o, then e to edit that new line, then put in init=/bin/sh
[05:22] <rukos> arrenlex: 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:22] <eV64> gatekeep, thanks
[05:22] <arrenlex> rukos: No
[05:22] <teenbeat> yell0w:ok
[05:22] <Seek026> I upgraded my nvidia driver and now when I start beryl the Window title bars are gone! does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:22] <icicled> if you get a macbook you will be spending too much money, go buy a dell :P
[05:23] <bruenig> thinkpad
[05:23] <J-_> hmm ok
[05:23] <gatekeep> ev64: features?? comes with Compviz and crap by default, Xorg 7.1 i have to check a bunch of crap been playing like mad ... too much to list really
[05:23] <bean-oh> eew dell.
[05:23] <ed1t> gatekeep, nothing
[05:23] <paozinho> arrenlex: why doesn't make sense ? oO!
[05:23] <paozinho> arrenlex: its a good linux joke :P
[05:23] <gatekeep> ed1t: hmmm
[05:23] <ed1t> gatekeep, still wireless light doesnt blink
[05:23] <bruenig> gatekeep, are you sure by default, I read they backed off on that by default, easy to enable, but not default
[05:23] <BigCanOfTuna> bean-oh: Get the macbook...ubuntu works great in Parallels!
[05:23] <ed1t> gatekeep, it blinked once...never after
[05:23] <rukos> arrenlex: do you think I can just recompile the kernel, or do you think it's easiest to just install a 64 bit ubuntu (I just need to be able to compile and run a 64 bit app.)
[05:23] <jtraub> gatekeep, i comes with preinstalled Compyz?
[05:23] <bean-oh> BigCanOfTuna, i was planning on it.
[05:23] <teenbeat> yell0w: ok i did
[05:23] <arrenlex> rukos: Why do you need 64-bit?
[05:23] <gatekeep> bah i shouldn't have spoken
[05:23] <gatekeep> yes it seems to
[05:24] <bruenig> !fiesty
[05:24] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:24] <rukos> arrenlex: long story, school project
[05:24] <gatekeep> System -> Prefs -> Desktop Effects
[05:24] <eV64> gatekeep, too much to keep up with! btw. did i ask you about my problem with network-manager-gnome
[05:24] <gatekeep> Wobbly Windows :)
[05:24] <gatekeep> beryl is still better though
[05:24] <laptop> arrenlex:  no
[05:24] <jtraub> Shit.. I hate all this 3D features
[05:24] <arrenlex> laptop: No what?
[05:24] <teenbeat> yell0w: do i save the line now or put i more there
[05:24] <laptop> arrenlex:  how do you change the file, you mean liek "opens with..."
[05:24] <gatekeep> brunenig: it comes with compviz by default, its off however
[05:24] <arrenlex> rukos: o_O mmhmm. I don't know. In debian it is easy, but ubuntu does it differently.
[05:24] <gatekeep> jtraub: yes it does
[05:25] <rukos> arrenlex: alright, thanks
[05:25] <arrenlex> laptop: Oh. Well good luck figuring it out, since I don't run gnome ^^ Try opening the filemanager and going to the desktop, rightclicking on the movie and seeing if you can configure the application it opens with in properties.
[05:25] <gatekeep> ed1t: have you tried rebooting?
[05:25] <arrenlex> laptop: If not, someone's bound to help you on the channel if you ask.
[05:25] <bruenig> gatekeep, yeah it says composite by default was deferred, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/composite-by-default
[05:25] <laptop> okay
[05:25] <laptop> arrenlex:  thanks for your help.
[05:25] <arrenlex> laptop: yw...
[05:26] <gatekeep> bruenig: interesting cuz Herd 5 still has the compositing manager
[05:26] <laptop> linux is like a puzzle
[05:26] <rukos> arrenlex: also, does AMD64 also apply to intel's x86 64 bit architecture?
[05:26] <saviles> what/where can i get the "mipsel-linux-gcc" package?
[05:26] <bruenig> gatekeep, however, accelerated x is enabled. So presumably installing compiz and beryl should be simple
[05:26] <teenbeat> yell0w: what do i do next
[05:26] <ed1t> gatekeep, i did
[05:26] <arrenlex> laptop: Oh, you might want to set the mplayer config like this, for greater compatiblity: http://arrenlex.ls.la/mplayer-plugin.png
[05:26] <bean-oh> feisty beta worth jumping to?
[05:26] <paozinho> !br
[05:26] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:26] <arrenlex> laptop: (to get to that screen, go to any website that starts mplayer in firefox, and right-click on it, go to properties\optioons.
[05:26] <gatekeep> bruenig: they may have turned of Composite from the way it was defaulted on but im not sure, due to my ATI situation i need it off anyway
[05:27] <paozinho> !dapper
[05:27] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[05:27] <arrenlex> rukos: Yes.
[05:27] <Kronuz> hello
[05:27] <laptop> arrenlex:  cool
[05:27] <paozinho> !edgy
[05:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:27] <gatekeep> bruenig: accelerated X ... is nice but im stuck with Xgl which isn't too bad
[05:27] <bruenig> gatekeep, ok, well anyways no compiz and beryl
[05:28] <rukos> arrenlex: thanks a lot
[05:28] <gatekeep> bruenig: hmmm ... well must be just Herd 5 that comes with it default
[05:28] <bruenig> gatekeep, did you try herd 5
[05:28] <gatekeep> bruenig: i mean it is installed default but not enabled
[05:28] <Kronuz> hey, can someone please help me a bit... I need someone to strace gnome-calculator: 'strace -tt -T gnome-calculator &> gnome-calculator.strace' and pastebin the gnome-calculator.strace file somewhere
[05:28] <gatekeep> bruenig: i have Herd 4 and 5 on disc
[05:28] <Kronuz> I'm trying to figure out why my gnome apps are taking too long to load
[05:28] <laptop> arrenlex:  Youre right its in properties...
[05:28] <bruenig> gatekeep, well seems odd that it would be deferred and be on those disks
[05:28] <gatekeep> bruenig: this laptop im on was installed Herd 5 and had compiz installed
[05:28] <arrenlex> laptop: I'm always right.
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[05:29] <gatekeep> bruenig: who knows ... but its easy enough to install
[05:29] <ed1t> gatekeep, its a wireless radio.....which is off
[05:29] <gatekeep> ed1t: if you do iwlist eth1 scan in a terminal what comes up?
[05:29] <Kronuz> I found someone using Debian and with a much slower computer than the one I've got and the gnome apps (including gnome-calculator) open immediately in his box, while in my Ubuntu is taking a second or a second and a half to open (the calculator)
[05:30] <gatekeep> ed1t: for that matter is the list under Wireless Networks populated?
[05:30] <diyerxa> Hello. Can anyone give me advice on how to upgrade to GNOME 2.18 on Edgy?
[05:30] <Kronuz> so I figure there must be either a misconfiguration in my box or in Ubuntu, somewhere....
[05:30] <arrenlex> Kronuz: (k)ubuntu felt really slow for me too when I used it...
[05:30] <gatekeep> to all: brb
[05:30] <teenbeat> yell0w: how do i go further
[05:30] <Kronuz> arrenlex, what are you using now?
[05:31] <eV64> diyerxa, probably easiest to do it through synaptic
[05:31] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Debian. It owns my soul.
[05:31] <Kronuz> ^_^
[05:31] <Kronuz> arrenlex, I still haven't figured how to install debian in my FakeRAID :(
[05:31] <Kronuz> arrenlex, it doesn't either have dmraid, and I don't know how to load it from the installation
[05:31] <teenbeat> yell0w: i put init line there what do i do next
[05:32] <ed1t> gatekeep, it prints out a list
[05:32] <ed1t> with cell0, cell1....
[05:32] <gatekeep> ed1t: then the radio has to be on
[05:32] <ed1t> gatekeep, what else could be wrong then?
[05:33] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Quick google: I bought a couple of 120GB SATA drives on Friday, and I thought why not use the nVidia FakeRAID on my mobo. Turns out that only Gentoo and Fedora 5 have support for FakeRAID on the install media itself.
[05:33] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Hence I had to go looking for details on installing Debian/Ubuntu on FakeRAID. Turns out that while dmraid (the software that provides support for FakeRAID has not been integrated with the installer, but is in the repositories, and it is possible to get an installation up and running somehow.
[05:33] <teenbeat> yell0w: do i make new line for adduser
[05:33] <arrenlex> Kronuz: http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~soumyadip/blog/index.php?/archives/25-The-case-for-FakeRAID-support-in-Linux-installers.html (if it helps)
[05:33] <gatekeep> ed1t: perhaps the WPA configuration but im not an expert on that
[05:33] <diyerxa> eV64: i've been trying, even after changing repositories to feisty. just can't seem to narrow down which GNOME files I need specifically
[05:34] <Kronuz> arrenlex, and FreeBSD ;)
[05:34] <teenbeat> yell0w: and what is the line for password
[05:34] <yellow> teenbeat,  sorry, i meant edit the kernel line and put init=/bin/sh in there  at the end of that kernel line (or init=/bin/bash), then reboot
[05:34] <Kronuz> arrenlex, will it be the same as in Ubuntu?
[05:34] <teenbeat> ok
[05:35] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Pft, freeBSD. No one without buttons who is capable of serving webpages runs freeBSD.
[05:35] <ed1t> gatekeep, doesnt it ask for keyring password when its about to connect?
[05:35] <ed1t> gatekeep, coz when i first installed it....it asked for a keyring and i entered the password
[05:35] <gatekeep> ed1t: if the password for the network is in the keyring
[05:35] <ed1t> i see that the entey is there
[05:35] <shmeelAway> if i'm on a laptop and i get a monitor, is it easy to set up dual monitor w/ a VGA connection? and is it possible for me to use just one of the monitors instead of both at any point?
[05:35] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Dunno. Debian and ubuntu are so close that I help out in this channel all the time without any problems, I just have to double-check the packages in packages.ubuntu.com, but it's almost always the same.
[05:36] <yellow> yell0w, then boot*
[05:36] <Centaur5> Can I have a local repository, an apt-get proxy, and configure an Ubuntu install over the network on the same machine or would things conflict with all those packages?
[05:36] <Kronuz> arrenlex, I wonder why Ubuntu is slower tho'
[05:36] <Kronuz> (it's so easy to install and "nice")
[05:36] <arrenlex> Kronuz: *shrug* some misconfiguration somewhere? I don't know...
[05:36] <Kronuz> yeah, must be
[05:36] <bogus> Can someone possibly help me get my wireless adapter to work please?
[05:36] <teenbeat> yell0w: ok
[05:36] <Kronuz> who knows...
[05:37] <greig_> hi can anyone help me with wine ?
[05:37] <teenbeat> yell0w: ok now ive got busybox
[05:37] <arrenlex> Kronuz: I guess I'm just used to the debian-installer... I love it. It's so straightforward. The LiveCD never starts for me anyway. Not on two of my four machines, anyway.
[05:37] <arrenlex> !ask | greig_
[05:37] <ubotu> greig_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:37] <eV64> diyerxa, it should tell you.
[05:37] <teenbeat> yell0w: whats next
[05:37] <ed1t> gatekeep, all it does is look for ip configuration and those 2 blue lights....never turns into green
[05:37] <yellow> teenbeat, when you're done booting you should get root@(none) (if init=/bin/bash is what's putted at the end of kernel line)
[05:37] <jaamarti> sup eV64
[05:37] <jaamarti> how was physics?
[05:37] <Crescendo> I have a friend who is on the phone with me, trying to get a new install of Ubuntu to connect to an unencrypted wireless network - and so far is unsuccessful - what can I do to troubleshoot?
[05:38] <bogus> I've got a Netgear WG111T, and I can't get it to work
[05:38] <eV64> jaamarti, hey
[05:38] <gatekeep> ed1t: you mean the net manager turns to those 2 lights and looks like its working but never connects
[05:38] <yellow> teenbeat, then do passwd and change the root password, then reboot back to normal and login as root and do whatever
[05:38] <teenbeat> yell0w: pwd right
[05:38] <ed1t> gatekeep, yes....like u know its blue when its trying to connect
[05:38] <bogus> I've installed ndiswrapper 1.38 and installed the appropriate drivers, and they show in -l, but wlan0 is missing entirely
[05:38] <yellow> gatekeep, gahhhh the thing keeps running up and down and never connects
[05:38] <yellow> ;(
[05:38] <Kronuz> arrenlex, if it wasn't for the slow start of my apps I'd stay with Ubuntu (but you really can tell it's slower, honestly... it's a noticeable difference)
[05:38] <yellow> gatekeep, it was working yesterday
[05:39] <gatekeep> ... omg
[05:39] <gatekeep> lol
[05:39] <yellow> teenbeat, passwd
[05:39] <teenbeat> yell0w: it does has something cant access tty :jobcontrol turned off
[05:39] <eV64> jaamarti, meh, it was only a first draft so i dont really care, i'm pwning that class anyways
[05:39] <ed1t> gatekeep, how do u remove something? im gonna try to remote network-manager and reinstall it
[05:39] <gatekeep> ed1t: the password might have been typed wrong or its a network thing with the Uni
[05:39] <teenbeat> he gives not found
[05:39] <gatekeep> ed1t: a package? in the terminal apt-get remove
[05:40] <yellow> gatekeep, does roaming from one network to another cause this behavior ?
[05:40] <eV64> bogus, it usually shows up as eth0, eth1, or eth2, etc
[05:40] <gatekeep> yellow: it might
[05:40] <ed1t> gatekeep, no its not network....coz i installed ubuntu like 2 months ago and it worked perfect in 1st try
[05:40] <ed1t> lemme reinstall
[05:40] <yellow> gatekeep, after a reboot ?
[05:40] <gatekeep> yellow: no usually after a reboot the wireless seems to work (for me at least)
[05:40] <gatekeep> yellow: and actually
[05:40] <Jabba69> 'lo all!
[05:40] <yellow> gatekeep,  don't tell me i got to purge nm and install it again
[05:40] <yellow> garrgh
[05:41] <gatekeep> yellow: if you can modprobe -r unload and modprobe the driver back in it usually works fine
[05:41] <shmeelAway> if i'm on a laptop and i get a monitor, is it easy to set up dual monitor w/ a VGA connection? and is it possible for me to use just one of the monitors instead of both at any point? like if i wated to use just my laptop monitor or just the other monitor could i change that easily?
[05:41] <yellow> gatekeep, which driver would that be ?
[05:41] <Crescendo> I have a friend who is on the phone with me, trying to get a new install of Ubuntu to connect to an unencrypted wireless network - and so far is unsuccessful - what can I do to troubleshoot?
[05:41] <gatekeep> yellow: what network card are you using?
[05:41] <yellow> 4318
[05:41] <gatekeep> bcm43xx
[05:41] <Kronuz> arrenlex, can you download modules during the debian installation?
[05:41] <Jabba69> crescendo: what laptop, network card?
[05:41] <gatekeep> so
[05:41] <gatekeep> yellow:
[05:42] <gatekeep> yellow: modprobe -r bcm43xx && modprobe bcm43xx
[05:42] <Crescendo> HP pavilion 5000 I think?  Unsure of the card right now
[05:42] <yellow> gatekeep, will try that
[05:42] <Jabba69> yellow: you using a dell?
[05:42] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Dunno... never needed to. I know it asks you what modules to load if you use the "expert" option, but I have no idea how extensive that is and have never used it.
[05:42] <Kronuz> arrenlex, I did that of what the Ubuntu article explains about FakeRAID but in debian I don't know how to do it, 'cause it's not a live system on which you can get dmraid and load it
[05:42] <teenbeat> yell0w: he doesnt know the command
[05:42] <teenbeat> passwd: not found
[05:42] <yellow> Jabba69, compaq
[05:42] <Jabba69> hmm...
[05:43] <berto-> has anyone had problems with atd and ldap-based authentication using pam_ldap ?
[05:43] <nn531> !adesklets
[05:43] <ubotu> adesklets: interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-2 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 544 kB
[05:43] <bogus> I know, none of those are my wireless adapter
 lsusb lists it as Bus 3, it definately sees that it's there
 but network manager doesn't see anything other than my wired connection on eth1
[05:43] <berto-> when i add an at job, it just hangs.
[05:43] <nn531> anyone know anything about adesklets?
[05:43] <Jabba69> yellow: I got the 1390 working on my dell, was a pain..
[05:43] <giskardd> is there a way to switch edgy 6.10 from adm64 to 686 with only the repos on the CD? i'm having trouble finding a 64 bit ndiswrapper driver for my wireless card.
[05:43] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Actually, you could always alt-f# over to a terminal and install the package manually... that's definitely possible.
[05:43] <Jabba69> yellow:  I used network manager...it's awesome..
[05:43] <teenbeat> i think im going to reinstall again
[05:44] <yellow> teenbeat, one sec
[05:44] <icicled> reinstall :o
[05:44] <goosfraba4u> Hey guys, my MyBook usb HD just came in! How can I mount the darn thing? (its plugged in, but I can't seem to detect it)
[05:44] <icicled> that's not a word allowed in the linuxy world :P
[05:44] <Kronuz> arrenlex, but how :S
[05:44] <goosfraba4u> everyone writes: mount /dev/sda1, but I have no sda1 in /dev
[05:44] <Kronuz> arrenlex, using apt-get ?
[05:44] <yellow> icicled, he lost all passwords
[05:44] <berto-> goosfraba4u: run dmesg and see what device it was assigned.
[05:44] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Yes... you'd probably need to chroot to /target.
[05:45] <gatekeep> yellow: ever hear of single user mode ;)
[05:45] <icicled> so, reboot using a live cd & chroot into the system & use passwd
[05:45] <kcbanner> Is it possible to have SSH listen on 2 ports?!!?
[05:45] <Kronuz> ... I'll have to boot to try it out...
[05:45] <genii> Yes
[05:45] <berto-> kcbanner: yes, /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:45] <yellow> gatekeep,  ?
[05:45] <icicled> but single user requires a password, last time i tried it
[05:45] <berto-> add a Port line towards the top
[05:45] <teenbeat> ok
[05:45] <kcbanner> berto-, yes. I have tried adding Port 22, 8023 but no go
[05:45] <gatekeep> ...
[05:45] <bogus> I can't find any device listed that looks like my wireless adapter
[05:45] <ant> dmesg | grep sda
[05:45] <icicled> live cd + chroot + passwd = win!
[05:45] <berto-> kcbanner: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[05:45] <gatekeep> icicled: try addint init 1 to the end of the kernel options
[05:45] <Kronuz> arrenlex, what about repositories and stuff, could you please help me find the dmraid 1.0.0 rc13 ?
[05:45] <icicled> ah ok
[05:45] <kcbanner> berto-, malformed PORT line it says
[05:45] <icicled> that just might do the trick
[05:45] <berto-> kcbanner: no no.
[05:45] <berto-> Port 22
[05:45] <berto-> Port 82342
[05:46] <kcbanner> Oh
[05:46] <icicled> yellow, listen to gatekeep
[05:46] <gatekeep> icicled: it works on almost every distro too not just ubuntu
[05:46] <berto-> two lines one on top of the next
[05:46] <arrenlex> Kronuz: It's in the main repositories. http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all&keywords=dmraid&sourceid=mozilla-search
[05:46] <icicled> good to know gatekeep, thanks
[05:46] <genii> a line for each port
[05:46] <yellow> gatekeep, addin init1 ?
[05:46] <gatekeep> no
[05:46] <gatekeep> yellow: add init 1
[05:46] <Kronuz> arrenlex, so it should work if I just issue apt-get in the terminal then?
[05:46] <bogus> Can anyone please help me?  I'll be completely without access after tonight
[05:46] <icicled> yellow, have a space between
[05:46] <goosfraba4u> Guys, how do I mount an external usb drive (MyBook)
[05:46] <goosfraba4u> ?
[05:46] <gatekeep> id also do it at the grub menu when you reboot
[05:47] <gatekeep> not in the grub conf file
[05:47] <yellow> gatekeep, teenbeat has this problem, i told him to add in init=/bin/bash
[05:47] <greig_> has anyone had problems with Wine, when install a game with more that one cd and unable to insert the second cd?
[05:47] <berto-> goosfraba4u: did you run dmesg?
[05:47] <genii> kcbanner: See http://www.latenightpc.com/blog/archives/2006/10/11/running-an-ssh-server-on-multiple-ports/ for examples
[05:47] <icicled> goosfraba4u, dmesg | grep sd*: ?
[05:47] <arrenlex> Kronuz: I don't recall how complicated it is... how good are you with apt?
[05:47] <Kronuz> arrenlex, and what's that about udeb (debian installer vs admin) ?
[05:47] <neozen> meep
[05:47] <ant> bogus : use iwconfig to find your wireless interface
[05:47] <Crescendo> What's the current IPv6 fix?
[05:47] <giskardd> is there a way to switch edgy 6.10 from adm64 to 686 with only the repos on the CD? i'm having trouble finding a 64 bit ndiswrapper driver for my wireless card.\
[05:47] <icicled> goosfraba4u, or dmesg | grep hd*: ?
[05:47] <Kronuz> arrenlex, I'm rather new :S
[05:47] <Kronuz> arrenlex, but I'm a fast learner
[05:47] <yellow> gatekeep, but that doesn't help help.
[05:47] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Oh... you probably shouldn't do this then. It can get mighty confusing if you don't have your head securely wrapped around chroots.
[05:47] <bogus> ant: it isn't listed there
[05:48] <ant> bogus : then you need drivers
[05:48] <gatekeep> yellow: apparently not
[05:48] <ant> bogus : what card do you have?
[05:48] <gatekeep> yellow: init 1 will save most of the time
[05:48] <arrenlex> Kronuz: udeb packages are for inclusion in the debian-installer. Its existence makes me think dmraid might already be integrated, maybe in the nightly snapshots?
[05:48] <gatekeep> yellow: when that fails (and im sure there is a distro where it will), use the live cd
[05:48] <bogus> ant: Netgear WG111T
[05:48] <nn531> why isnt my adesklets working?
[05:48] <bogus> ant: I have installed the drivers, and they show as being present with hardware present
[05:48] <gatekeep> folks ill be back in oh 15 min or so
[05:48] <Kronuz> arrenlex, is there a way to verify if it has?
[05:49] <yellow> teenbeat, turn out i was wrong, listen to gatekeep, do the same thing, but instead of init=/bin/bash, put in  there init 1
[05:49] <neozen> arrenlex: that'd be me.... chroots are still magic beasties which should be avoided for me
[05:49] <goosfraba4u> icicled: (1)  low speed USB device using uhci_hcd;  (2)  USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3002] 
[05:49] <arrenlex> neozen: lol... yeah, they can get hairy at times.
[05:49] <Centaur5> Can anybody make some recommendations for the best way to have Ubuntu installed on new machines?
[05:49] <ant> bogus : how do they show as being present?
[05:49] <arrenlex> Kronuz: I really don't know anything about this issue... sorry.
[05:49] <Kronuz> arrenlex, I got the one at http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
[05:49] <icicled> goosfraba4u, strange, do 'sudo rmmod uhcd_hcd'
[05:49] <saviles> does anyone know where i can get the "mipsel-linux-gcc" package?
[05:49] <neozen> Centaur5: yeah.... get decent hardware in the boxen
[05:49] <icicled> then it should set it in high-speed mode
[05:49] <bogus> ant: ndiswrapper -l returns that info
[05:49] <Jabba69> Centaur5: stick in the disk and boot
[05:50] <yellow> nm's still acting up ;(
[05:50] <Kronuz> is that the RC2 the one I got
[05:50] <goosfraba4u> icicled: i also have "hdd: tray open"; "end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 152"
[05:50] <ScreamingIke> does anyone have familiarity with administrating the MUD servers available in the main repos? i'm just looking for some hand holding. they're not well documented.
[05:50] <icicled> tray open?
[05:50] <Jabba69> yellow: you using network manager.
[05:50] <teenbeat> ok
[05:50] <Kronuz> :(
[05:50] <icicled> thats your cdrom most likely
[05:50] <yellow> Jabba69, yes
[05:50] <Jabba69> yellow: are you using ndis wrapper?
[05:50] <Centaur5> Okay, let me rephrase that. The most efficient way to install it on new machines being sold to people to save time configuring and downloading updates.
[05:50] <yellow> Jabba69, maybe i need to reinstall it ?
[05:50] <yellow> Jabba69, no, firmware
[05:51] <n-iCe> WHere is the xmms folder? i want to move one skin there
[05:51] <ant> bogus : hold up
[05:51] <neozen> Centaur5: ahhhhh
[05:51] <yellow> Jabba69, it was working yesterday
[05:51] <Jabba69> oh okay...I'm not using a compaq, but with a dell broadcom 1390 wireless card, oh
[05:51] <Jabba69> did you put nm in your init
[05:51] <arrenlex> n-iCe: ~/.xmms
[05:51] <arrenlex> n-iCe: Like most apps.
[05:51] <n-iCe> thanks
[05:51] <neozen> n-iCe: I think you're going to want to move your skin somewhere in the ~/.xmms/ folder
[05:51] <yellow> Jabba69, it in gnome-startup
[05:51] <pablasso> anyone knows how can i get the keyring to remember the password instead of asking me everytime i log? (or at least make it gave free access to network-manager)?? i'm using edgy
[05:51] <shmeelAway> if i'm on a laptop and i get a monitor, is it easy to set up dual monitor w/ a VGA connection? and is it possible for me to use just one of the monitors instead of both at any point? like if i wated to use just my laptop monitor or just the other monitor could i change that easily?
[05:52] <neozen> shmeelAway: I had problems with this too
[05:52] <n-iCe> what i need to write in the console?
[05:52] <Centaur5> neozen: I really want to consider pushing it with Feisty's release but we have a really efficient setup with windows.
[05:52] <n-iCe> cd ~/.xmms ?
[05:52] <yellow> Jabba69, the thing keeps spunning, saying it's looking for my home network, then leave it with an orange triangle
[05:52] <neozen> shmeelAway: are you running xubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:52] <shmeelAway> neozen: ubuntu
[05:52] <neozen> oh wait....
[05:52] <neozen> sorry... wrong newbie
[05:52] <n-iCe> I don't want to join in the console i want to join grpahical
[05:52] <shmeelAway> hehe
[05:52] <neozen> pablasso: that was for you
[05:52] <Arrick> hey, got a question
[05:53] <dennisharrison> n-iCe, what ?
[05:53] <neozen> Arrick: ok.. .ask it
[05:53] <dennisharrison> n-iCe, what client are you using?
[05:53] <n-iCe> ubuntu
[05:53] <pablasso> neozen, ubuntu.. so gnome keyring it is
[05:53] <yellow> Jabba69, maybe purge nm and reinstall it ?
[05:53] <Arrick> keep getting bumped off the network, what port should I forwaord so my client doesnt keep timing out?
[05:53] <Jabba69> hmm..
[05:53] <neozen> Arrick: quickly ... before we start bouncing off the walls or something
[05:53] <kari21> a til quel qun qui parle francais
[05:53] <n-iCe> i got it
[05:53] <Jabba69> maybe...i know broadcom drivers are notoriously buggy.
[05:53] <n-iCe> thank you
[05:53] <ant> bogus : have you tried this  :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[05:53] <Jabba69> why i used ndis wrapper
[05:53] <Arrick> neozen you are already doing that, so dont worry about that part
[05:53] <jaamarti> heya neozen..  what's happening?
[05:53] <yellow> Jabba69, i'm so waitng for nm0.7 to come out
[05:54] <neozen> jaamarti: greetings
[05:54] <yellow> !fr | kari21
[05:54] <ubotu> kari21: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:54] <neozen> jaamarti: not much, my brain hurts
[05:54] <Kronuz> arrenlex, so technically to make it work, I should basically do: during installation, change to a shell, do chroot /target, install the dmraid package using apt-get install dmraid; load the module using modprobe dmraid, and that's it?
[05:54] <gatekeep> hmm
[05:54] <eV64> ok, network-manager wasn't seeing my eth2 wireless (which i'm using right now) so i did sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager.  How do i restart it?
[05:54] <neozen> jaamarti: been throwing graph theory at it for the past 3 days
[05:54] <neozen> eV64: restart what?
[05:55] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Again, I don't know anything about software raid and very little about installing debian. That was a suggestion for something that you might be able to get away with.
[05:55] <Jabba69> yellow: with ndis wrapper and nm I connect to cisco router at work and DD-WRT hacked home router
[05:55] <yellow> gatekeep, the thing keeps spunning, ticking me off
[05:55] <Jabba69> no problems..
[05:55] <kari21> tank you
[05:55] <gatekeep> yellow: ?
[05:55] <yellow> Jabba69, maybe time to try ndis wrapper
[05:55] <bogus> ant: that's essentially what I've done
[05:55] <yellow> gatekeep, nm
[05:55] <gatekeep> yellow: mmkay
[05:55] <eV64> network-manager-gnome
[05:55] <Kronuz> arrenlex, I understand, but did that sound like something logical and that could work?
[05:55] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Yes.
[05:55] <yellow> Jabba69, any essential difference between using firmware and ndis wrapper ?
[05:56] <gatekeep> just to check ... i tested single .. unless you set a root password ... single should NEVER ask you for one ..
[05:56] <Kronuz> arrenlex, ok I'll try it and then I'll let you know :)
[05:56] <bogus> ant: however. "ifup wlan0" responds "Device does not exist"
[05:56] <yellow> speed/performance ?
[05:56] <Kronuz> bbl
[05:56] <neozen-beer> bbl
[05:56] <gatekeep> and init 1 ... seems to be changed on ubuntu unfortunatly .. which is odd
[05:56] <Jabba69> I have not noticed any speed deg
[05:56] <eV64> neozen: network-manager gnome
[05:56] <yellow> gatekeep, so what do you suggest teenbeat should do ?
[05:56] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Hold on
[05:56] <arrenlex> Kronuz: That won't work.
[05:56] <Jabba69> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[05:56] <Kronuz> hmm
[05:56] <gatekeep> yellow: use the Live CD ... and use passwd in a chroot
[05:56] <Jabba69> check out that post, for dells but broadcom is broadcom
[05:57] <arrenlex> Kronuz: If you have to chroot to target to install stuff into it, then the root partition has to already exist and a basic system be installed.
[05:57] <ant> bogus : did the syslog tell you what interface your card was? (wlan0, eth0 or something)
[05:57] <Kronuz> I see
[05:57] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Er, yeah. Sorry. xD
[05:57] <Kronuz> arrenlex, so, maybe I'll use a ram disk then
[05:57] <bogus> ant: I'm not sure, where would I check that?
[05:57] <nn531> " configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" any help?
[05:57] <arrenlex> nn531: Install build-essential
[05:58] <ant> bogus : i would suggest doing everything step by step on that page
[05:58] <yellow> gatekeep, how do you do that ?
[05:58] <yellow> gatekeep, teenbeat is the one that needs help, and i'm also eager to learn, won't be wasted info
[05:58] <gatekeep> yellow: well ... if its a default installation of ubuntu, mount the ubuntu hard disk and then chroot to where its mounted
[05:59] <Kronuz> arrenlex, I suppose it doesn't really matter where a kernel module is located at when I load it, right?
[05:59] <gatekeep> yellow: then use passwd to change passwords as needed, one should NEVER EVER set a root password, its rather insecure
[05:59] <yellow> Jabba69, that's meaning i have to clean up stuff fwcutter and stuff
[05:59] <Kronuz> arrenlex, so I could just download it to a ram disk and modprobe it from there... I hope?
[05:59] <yellow> gatekeep, chroot to where it's mounted ?
[05:59] <pablasso> so anyone knows how to make the gnome keyring to remember the password instead of asking me at every login?
[05:59] <bogus> ant: modprobe ndiswrapper causes the cursor in my terminal to become bold, and I cannot enter further commands
[05:59] <Jabba69> yellow: yeah, before anything make sure you can get and extract the ndis drivers from compaq
[06:00] <arrenlex> Kronuz: I really don't know anything about this issue and shouldn't be answering your questions because I'll mislead you. Sorry.
[06:00] <Jabba69> don't forget to put ndsiwrapper into /etc/modules also
[06:00] <Kronuz> arrenlex, okay, thanks anyway :)
[06:01] <ant> bogus : it freezes your terminal?
[06:01] <gatekeep> yellow: yes for example if the ubuntu hard drive is hda ... you would do ... http://rafb.net/p/klRwkw13.html
[06:01] <gatekeep> yellow: btw
[06:01] <giskardd> how do i switch to the non-spm kernel?
[06:01] <giskardd> *smp
[06:01] <bogus> ant: I can continue typing but pressing enter doesn't do anything, and commands don't do anything either
[06:01] <gatekeep> yellow: that is an example, you need to know what partition your ubuntu install is on and such ...
[06:01] <yellow> gatekeep, yes, i got you
[06:02] <frenzy-br> !codec
[06:02] <yellow> gatekeep, from there on i can use passwd to reset root pass right ?
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <yellow> gatekeep, oh it's already in step 4
[06:02] <gatekeep> yellow: yes but again you shouldn't do that
[06:02] <yellow> d'oh
[06:02] <frenzy-br> !codecs
[06:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:02] <Kronuz> arrenlex, I found dmraid in my Debian disk
[06:02] <ant> bogus : goto another terminal and see if the module found the device with 'tail /var/log/syslog'
[06:02] <gatekeep> yellow: i always recommend against one setting a root password ... its insecure ... sudo and su are much safer
[06:02] <JN_Coward> I am having major trouble with apache, I had Apache2.0 installed (package) and now I build Apache2.2 from source, however the old Apache2 install lingers and somehow I can't figure out how to start Apache2.2
[06:02] <yellow> gatekeep, why is that ?
[06:03] <arrenlex> Kronuz: Cool!
[06:03] <arrenlex> Kronuz: By default?
[06:03] <gatekeep> yellow: well im security conscious against system hackers as a system administrator, so i don't like people having a direct way to access root
[06:03] <ant> bogus : you are looking for something like wlan0, wlan1.. or eth0, eth1
[06:03] <gatekeep> yellow: plus it cuts of your use of single
[06:03] <Kronuz> arrenlex, well, it's there in the iso... but I don't know how to load it :S
[06:03] <gatekeep> yellow: the recovery mode
[06:03] <Kronuz> (it doesn't load by default, or at least it doesn't show my drives)
[06:04] <arrenlex> Kronuz: It won't load itself? What if you boot in expert mode?
[06:04] <giskardd> can anyone tell me how to change the smp kernel to the non-smp kernel?
[06:04] <Kronuz> hmm.. never tried it...
[06:04] <Kronuz> I'm really new to linux
[06:04] <yellow> gatekeep, well it's kind of the balance between how strong root vs. user password is isn't it ?
[06:04] <Kronuz> (I come from the Windows world, running away from Vista)
[06:04] <wraithsoul> rass
[06:05] <wraithsoul> it is jessi
[06:05] <gatekeep> yellow: yes ... but if you don't have direct access to root, the attacker would need to find an account capable of su or sudo
[06:05] <bimberi> giskardd: install linux-386
[06:05] <bogus> ant:  this line repeats itself when that command is run:  "Mar 22 01:03:01 BHCpc dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
[06:05] <bogus> "
[06:05] <Kronuz> arrenlex, but dmraid is at /pool/main/d/dmraid in my Debian netinst disk
[06:06] <gatekeep> yellow: im not trying to pursuade you to do it one way or another, but if it is a desktop machine the chances are you won't be hacked but leaving root password less is safe if you ever need to go into recovery mode
[06:06] <yellow> gatekeep, got cha
[06:06] <nn531> arrenlex: build-essential did not work for me
[06:06] <Kronuz> I'll reboot and try again
[06:06] <bogus> ant: however eth0 is the regular ethernet card I'm using now
[06:06] <Rass> um, my x server is malconfigured and I am new to Linex and illiterate....
[06:06] <Kronuz> arrenlex, do you think expert mode loads more drivers by itself?
[06:06] <Rass> halp?
[06:06] <Kronuz> or it's just so that I can tell it what to load?
[06:06] <Decepticon> how do you pronounce ubuntu?
[06:06] <Decepticon> oo bun two ?
[06:06] <gatekeep> yellow: trust me it will make your life a lot more simple if you forget a password ...
[06:06] <ant> bogus : do another iwconfig
[06:06] <Decepticon> or you bun two
[06:06] <maddash> "I can't handle debian"
[06:06] <arrenlex> Kronuz: No, but it gives you options for what modules to load.
[06:07] <arrenlex> Decepticon: ooo-bun-two
[06:07] <Kronuz> oh... like in a list?
[06:07] <yellow> gatekeep, hehe biometrics
[06:07] <bogus> ant:  "lo        no wireless extensions.
[06:07] <bogus> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[06:07] <bogus> eth1      no wireless extensions.
[06:07] <bogus> sit0      no wireless extensions."
[06:07] <gatekeep> yellow: ;)
[06:07] <yellow> teenbeat, did you follow what gatekeep said
[06:07] <Kronuz> I'll reboot and try again, thanks arrenlex
[06:07] <bimberi> !pronounce | Decepticon
[06:07] <ubotu> Decepticon: Ubuntu is pronounced "oo-BOON-too"  See http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq
[06:07] <Kronuz> bbl
[06:07] <goosfraba4u> guys, please help mount a USB drive (MyBook)
[06:07] <yellow> gatekeep, owww, my eyesss !!!!
[06:07] <Decepticon> bimberi awesome thank you
[06:07] <gatekeep> yellow: im just tryin to keep it simple for you
[06:07] <bimberi> Decepticon: np :)
[06:07] <arrenlex> Cool, I didn't know there was a factoid for that. Thanks, bimberi.
[06:08] <wraithsoul> rass
[06:08] <Decepticon> personally i like saying youbuntwo
[06:08] <arrenlex> It'll save me having to mouth words over IRC.
[06:08] <Decepticon> dunno, just habit
[06:08] <teenbeat> im not started yes
[06:08] <bimberi> arrenlex: lol
[06:08] <Rass> yes Wraithsoul?
[06:08] <wraithsoul> in irssi, to switch windows, press esc # of window
[06:08] <yellow> gatekeep, my nm's been trying to get the network key for 20 mins, ever since you restarted ;(
[06:08] <wraithsoul> like, press esc 1
[06:08] <teenbeat> ive took an shower to get fresh
[06:08] <wraithsoul> and that will bring you to the server window
[06:08] <ant> bogus : you should see ndiswrapper initializing the module in your syslog, you can still try to setup your interface by going to the next step
[06:08] <teenbeat> im getting sleepie
[06:08] <gatekeep> yellow: bcm43xx or ndiswrapper?
[06:08] <yellow> gatekeep, i think it's time i purge nm and put in a password EXTREMELY carefully
[06:09] <gatekeep> ahh
[06:09] <yellow> bcm43xx
[06:09] <gatekeep> NM
[06:09] <gatekeep> nvm then
[06:09] <gatekeep> yea
[06:09] <gatekeep> if NM gets a password in the keyring
[06:09] <gatekeep> usually
[06:09] <gatekeep> i think
[06:09] <teenbeat> but im going to start in a minute
[06:09] <yellow> gatekeep, it keeps saing waiting for network key for the wireless network ...
[06:09] <gatekeep> well
[06:09] <gatekeep> is it saving the password to a keyring?
[06:09] <giskardd> bimberi: where is linux-386?
[06:09] <nn531> anyone know why my apt-get update and build-essential isnt working?
[06:09] <wraithsoul> rass?
[06:09] <yellow> teenbeat, reboot with live cd, do the steps http://rafb.net/p/klRwkw13.html , where /dev/hda1 is where / partion of your system is
[06:10] <yellow> gatekeep, yes
[06:10] <yellow> gatekeep, it saved it yesterday
[06:10] <gatekeep> yellow: hold a sec, i have to remeber something but its easier to do this then purging nm
[06:10] <jmg> hey all
[06:10] <jmg> is feisty+1 named yet?
[06:10] <jmg> gloomy goldfish!
[06:10] <arrenlex> lol
[06:10] <teenbeat> ok
[06:11] <Chapayev> anyone make ndiswrapper 1.38 recently?
[06:11] <goosfraba4u> please help mount a USB HD
[06:11] <yellow> gatekeep, today i gave back the password but it's still not getting the network key for the ssid
[06:11] <gatekeep> yellow: goto your home dir, .gnome2/keyrings clear the dir out
[06:11] <gatekeep> yellow: just a word of caution that will clear your keyring
[06:11] <Crescendo> I have a friend who is on the phone with me, trying to get a new install of Ubuntu to connect to an unencrypted wireless network - and so far is unsuccessful - what can I do to troubleshoot?
[06:11] <Chapayev> i dunno why Im asking - i just returned the netgear wg111
[06:11] <gatekeep> yellow: or at least the one time nm got a bad password for my network it works
[06:12] <yellow> gatekeep, wireless i s the only hting on there
[06:12] <Chapayev> cres - he prob needs this piece of shit - ndiswrapper
[06:12] <yellow> gatekeep, then restart nm ?
[06:12] <Davo_Dinkum> Anyone use tilda?
[06:12] <Davo_Dinkum> !tilda
[06:12] <ubotu> tilda: Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 32 kB, installed size 148 kB
[06:12] <Chapayev> i got the gprs-bt goin ;)
[06:12] <Chapayev> only took 2 days w/o sleep
[06:12] <gatekeep> yellow: no you'd need to restart Gnome
[06:12] <arieanie> i've gotten this far but i'm stuck can u help?
[06:12] <Davo_Dinkum> How do you make it scroll up? (tilda that is)
[06:12] <gatekeep> yellow: or at least i did to be safe
[06:12] <arieanie> root@arieanie:/home/arieanie/fuc# start.sh
[06:12] <goosfraba4u> how do I mount a usb hard-drie (MyBook)??
[06:13] <yellow> gatekeep, true, since i set nm to start with gnome
[06:13] <arieanie> root@arieanie:/home/arieanie/fuc# start.sh
[06:13] <Chapayev> get on it goos
[06:13] <gatekeep> yellow: if doing that doesn't work then purge nm
[06:13] <Davo_Dinkum> Anyone?
[06:13] <yellow> gatekeep, yah, it's asking me for the wireless ssid key again now
[06:13] <Chapayev> goos do u wanna sync a Q to that thing too?
[06:14] <goosfraba4u> lsusb
[06:14] <peepsalot> hey folks, does anyone else have problems with time being an hour off?  I have it set to sync with local time servers, and my time zone is correct, but the time is wrong
[06:14] <gatekeep> wtf
[06:14] <difeta> is it true that ubuntu will no longer provide a ppc version of the distro?
[06:14] <gatekeep> why is apt updating my 2.6.20-12 kernel to ... 2.6.20-12
[06:14] <bimberi> ! info linux-386 | giskardd
[06:14] <ubotu> giskardd: linux-386: Complete Linux kernel on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:14] <gatekeep> bah don't answer that
[06:15] <yellow> gatekeep, lol
[06:15] <Davo_Dinkum> difeta: There's talk of it.
[06:15] <gatekeep> its rehtorical
[06:15] <difeta> Davo_Dinkum: has any decision been made yet?
[06:15] <peepsalot> the Y2k7 bug is biting me
[06:16] <arieanie> bash: /bin/start.sh: Permission denied
[06:16] <Davo_Dinkum> difeta: No idea.
[06:16] <arieanie> how can i change this
[06:16] <difeta> Davo_Dinkum: ok, thanks
[06:16] <Chapayev> u gotta look into iwconfig for the WiFi key
[06:16] <gatekeep> aha ... 2.6.20-12.19 to 2.6.20-12.20
[06:17] <gatekeep> no ubuntu i don't want to restart
[06:17] <jaamarti> quick question, I have some python packages that won't configure and I keep getting barf messages about them..  how do I remove them?  everytime I try it goes and tries to reconfigure them and barfs again
[06:17] <gatekeep> be back in a bit
[06:18] <wraithsoul> Rass' ubuntu boxes x11 broke after she moved it into the other room. The error says basically that the monitor is not detected. This is probably a common problem and I am hoping we can get some help. I dunno what her config file looks like. Is there a way to quickly replace the config file to what it was at install or another way to fix it?
[06:18] <Chapayev> oh no! wheres the gate?
[06:18] <[M] orpheus> hi i donwloaded xchat and it requires a lib that is older than the lib I have installed... what may I do?
[06:18] <wraithsoul> morpheus, get the newer version
[06:18] <wraithsoul> :\
[06:18] <Broady> the new version doesnt work?
[06:18] <[M] orpheus> wraith, I think i got the last version from xchat...
[06:19] <arieanie> bash: /bin/start.sh: Permission denied
[06:19] <arieanie> how can i change this?
[06:19] <[M] orpheus> he required libdbus-1-2 and i have 1.3
[06:19] <Davo_Dinkum> morodock: Or use irsso
[06:19] <jmg> the official statement is not to name until after the release of the in-development version
[06:20] <teenbeat> ok its working again
[06:20] <alekz> hi, wich package can i use to connect a desktop pc to my lap top in my home network and access to files from one to the other ?
[06:20] <yellow> teenbeat, good :)
[06:21] <yellow> teenbeat, beats 3x re-install eh ?
[06:21] <teenbeat> one thing thou wath is the difference between gnome and the regular startup, yell0w: yes absolutly
[06:21] <[M] orpheus> another question... i have an ATI 9600XT... it's better use ATI drivers, or the free drivers?
[06:22] <ant> arieanie : sudo chmod 700 /bin/start.sh
[06:22] <gatekeep> morpheus: that depends ... PITA or not PITA
[06:22] <crdlb> [M] orpheus, fglrx will be faster, but the free drivers will be more stable
[06:22] <yellow> teenbeat, ubuntu starts with gnome by default
[06:22] <[M] orpheus> gatekeep: what is pITA?
[06:22] <gatekeep> morpheus: pain in the ass
[06:23] <teenbeat> ok but in options you can change sessions
[06:23] <teenbeat> i thought gnome was second option
[06:23] <yellow> teenbeat, try it, it might be different ;)
[06:23] <teenbeat> ok i will im curious
[06:23] <[M] orpheus> if I want to use beryl, glx or AIGLX? (sry about all the newbie questions, long time without using lnx)
[06:24] <gatekeep> uhh you might want to try the free drivers
[06:24] <gatekeep> FGLRX will give you hell
[06:24] <teenbeat> yell0w: and gatekeeper : thank you both
[06:24] <[M] orpheus> gatekeep: ty :D
[06:24] <crdlb> [M] orpheus, I completely agree
[06:24] <gatekeep> morpheus: if you can't get direct rendering and such on free then your force the PITA route, using XGL and crap
[06:25] <ant> [M] orpheus : #ubuntu-effects
[06:25] <yellow> teenbeat, np, the credit belongs to gatekeep ;)
[06:25] <yellow> teenbeat, was it diffrent ? :P
[06:25] <teenbeat> im now going to sleep, my wife will wake up in half an hour its 06.25 am see you later guys
[06:25] <[M] orpheus> ant last time i went there, didnt got an answer :S
[06:25] <gatekeep> mmm i must visit said ubuntu-effects
[06:26] <teenbeat> didnt do it yet i wait till afternoon when im fresh
[06:26] <ant> [M] orpheus : did you try #beryl
[06:26] <yellow> teenbeat, try sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop   and sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, for xfce and kde alternatives
[06:26] <ant> or #ati
[06:26] <teenbeat> ok thanx yellow
[06:26] <[M] orpheus> ant ths :D
[06:27] <goosfraba4u> HELP! just got a MyBook (usb drive) and can't mount it any way I try.
[06:28] <goosfraba4u> the damn thing is on FAT32 (if that's responsible for it?)
[06:28] <ant> goosfraba4u : i assume it doesnt show up under lsusb
[06:28] <goosfraba4u> ant: nope
[06:28] <ant> :(
[06:28] <goosfraba4u> ant: tell me about it
[06:29] <Jordan_U> goosfraba4u, FAT32 should mount just fine
[06:29] <ant> goosfraba4u : and google didn't return any help?
[06:29] <goosfraba4u> ant: I wouldn't bother you guys if it did
[06:29] <goosfraba4u> ant: this is my last resource
[06:30] <rule30>  is there a way to disable the "media change" when using apt-get ?
[06:30] <goosfraba4u> ant: *resort
[06:30] <goosfraba4u> ant: so any other suggestions?
[06:30] <worksucks79> Hi Everyone.....
[06:31] <rule30> Quick Queston: Does anyone know how to disable the "Media Change" prompting for the CDROM when using the apt-get utility?
[06:32] <jmg> rule30: remove the cdrom from sources and apt-get update
[06:32] <rule30> I strictly want to use the HTTP/FTP connection for retrieving packages, and operations involving the apt-get utility...
[06:32] <rule30> where is "sources"?
[06:32] <jmg> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:32] <ant> goosfraba4u : well after looking on the web, seems like other poeple are using theirs.. so it is possible.
[06:32] <rule30> ahh... Thank you
[06:33] <Moreau> anyone know how to access another partition, i just started with linux and i cant figure out how to get to the other partition
[06:33] <rule30> jmg, that did the trick
[06:33] <rule30> jmg, Thank you!
[06:33] <jay> hi
[06:34] <jay> somebody help me how to install GCC
[06:34] <Rass> Excuse me #ubuntu, but HELP! My X server is disabled apparently and I know not what to do, I am new to Linex....
[06:35] <goosfraba4u> ant: thanks. I know it's possible. The question is, "how?"
[06:35] <macd> jay 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[06:35] <jtraub> jay, sudo aptitude install gcc
[06:35] <worksucks79> Is there anyone out there willing to spend a couple minutes with a newb trying to get wine running on Ubuntu 6.10?  I need to run a program for my business, and can't get it.
[06:35] <jay> thx...i'll try
[06:36] <genii> build-essential will give you gcc plus other neccesary things
[06:36] <jtraub> worksucks79, whats wrong with your wine?
[06:36] <Moreau> anyone know how to access another partition, i just started with fedora and i cant figure out how to get to the other partition
[06:36] <jaamarti> night all.. time to go
[06:36] <worksucks79> jtraub - I don't think it will install
[06:36] <mkquist> Moreau - u have to mount the partition to be able to access it
[06:36] <Moreau> o and how do i do that :P
[06:37] <worksucks79> jtraub - dpkg --configure -a
[06:37] <worksucks79> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:37] <worksucks79> I meant
[06:37] <mkquist> Moreau - try this.. dc to you /mnt folder, sudo mkdir otherdrive
[06:38] <Moreau> ill try
[06:38] <Moreau> i barely understand what u just said lol
[06:38] <mkquist> Moreau - then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hd? (other drive letter there/part there)  /mnt/otherdrive
[06:38] <goosfraba4u> ant: just tried (watch -d "dmesg | grep usb")
[06:39] <goosfraba4u> ant: when I unplugged my mouse, it changed, but when I plugged in the MyBook... nothing...
[06:39] <mkquist> Moreau - search for mount drives or something similar in the ubuntu forums
[06:40] <mkquist> sry cd to your*
[06:40] <mkquist> lol
[06:41] <mkquist> Moreau - basically what u have to do is create a mount pt for the other drive/partition u want to access
[06:41] <abasinisvacant> could i simplify    sinh(x)(sech(x)^2) any more?
[06:41] <mkquist> Moreau - then mount the drive, then its accessible
[06:41] <clouder`grr> In Firestarter, allowing connections is pretty obvious.  How to I block an IP using firestarter?
[06:41] <Yggdrasil> whats the latest ubuntu ?
[06:41] <mkquist> Moreau - i was just giving u the commands for it, to try it out...
[06:42] <Yggdrasil> edgy ?
[06:43] <clouder`grr> Nevermind, I now realize that it blocks all and you open what you need
[06:43] <ant> goosfraba4u : if its not showing up in dmesg i dont know where to start
[06:43] <mkquist> Yggdrasil - stable? Edgy 6.10 - about to be Feisty
[06:43] <mkquist> Fawn
[06:43] <Yggdrasil> mkquist isee.
[06:43] <Yggdrasil> how lank out ?
[06:44] <Chap> <-- is hiiigh
[06:44] <Moreau> mkquist: how do i make myself the root in the terminal
[06:44] <Yggdrasil> mkquist just change everything to fiesty in aptsources
[06:44] <Chap> sudo -s
[06:44] <mkquist> Moreau - use sudo before the command
[06:44] <mkquist> Moreau - or use what Chap just said..lol
[06:45] <Chap> if u sit here long enough n do enough drugs - things repeat
[06:45] <goosfraba4u> ant: thanks for your support on this one. Bad usb port. Just plugged it in one of the ones in the front and it autodetected. (Thats what happens when you have 16 usb ports... :) )
[06:45] <Chap> so Ill repeat that I can gprs w/ BT to my ubu box..ne1 need help :)
[06:45] <Moreau> "Moreau is no in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported" ---uh wtf
[06:46] <Nexus_BSD> hey all, anyoen else have problems with wifi and 6.10?
[06:46] <Chap> wifi shld be better in edgy accord to docs
[06:46] <Yggdrasil> hmm..
[06:46] <Chap> like my wg111 wouldve worked w/o ndiscrapper
[06:46] <mkquist> Moreau - when u try to sudo?
[06:47] <clouder`grr> !firewall
[06:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:47] <Chap> neway i returned it to pick up anther bag
[06:47] <Nexus_BSD> Chap: i have no wifi options at all with 6.10
[06:47] <ZoOlMaN> Hi all, I was trying to run a 3D application when I get this error (OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display)
[06:47] <Nexus_BSD> Chap: then again i have never setup a system with linux that used wifi
[06:47] <Chap> what hardware u pushin Nex??
[06:47] <Moreau> yes mkquist
[06:47] <Nexus_BSD> HP nc6320
[06:47] <ZoOlMaN> now my VGA Card Supports OpenGL on windows!, what should I look for?
[06:47] <Nexus_BSD> Chap: it's got a intel 2200bg
[06:47] <Differ> do I ALWAYS have to defragment before partitioning, if Windows says I don't have to?
[06:48] <mkquist> Moreau - what did u type? --curious
[06:48] <Chap> do u even see the device?
[06:48] <ant> goosfraba4u : thats almost funny, i was thinking earlier that you might be using a usb 1.1 and needing a usb2 but it shoulda worked none the less
[06:48] <Nexus_BSD> no
[06:48] <Differ> Nexus_BSD: are you talking to me?
[06:48] <Yggdrasil> iwconfig ?
[06:48] <Moreau> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1/mnt/cpx
[06:48] <Nexus_BSD> Chap: under both the networking option under system->administration->networking
[06:48] <Nexus_BSD> Chap: as well as under iwconfig
[06:49] <Nexus_BSD> Differ: no sir
[06:49] <Differ> ok.
[06:49] <ant> Nexus_BSD : i'm using a intel2200BG on edgy and it worked out of the box, using ipw2200 driver
[06:49] <Nexus_BSD> Differ: i know it gets confusing when i do not lable who i am talkign to
[06:49] <mkquist> Moreau - space between hda1 and /mnt i think would help ur saying mount type this here...
[06:49] <Nexus_BSD> ant: i am not ue what is wrong
[06:50] <Nexus_BSD> i have considered a re-installation
[06:50] <fatlip> The following packages have been kept back: kdelibs5 kdelibs5-dev
[06:50] <fatlip> i keep getting that same error
[06:50] <Yggdrasil> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:50] <Nexus_BSD> ant: i have redownloaded the latest 6.0 iso and burned it, but i am not sure if there is ny change as far as the wifi support from the last .10 iso i buned
[06:50] <Nexus_BSD> i am sort of at a lose
[06:51] <Nexus_BSD> well rather a stand still
[06:51] <ant> Nexus_BSD : you could always read the changelog
[06:51] <Yggdrasil> nexus whats your problem ?
[06:51] <cani> anyone can help me setting up  a windows partition in edgy eft???
[06:51] <Chapayev> re :)
[06:51] <ant> Nexus_BSD : but it should work with no config
[06:51] <Differ> cani: do you already have an edgy partition?
[06:51] <Nexus_BSD> wifi, not seeing my Intel 2200BG wifi card on a fresh install of 6.10
[06:51] <Yggdrasil> mmm
[06:51] <Differ> have you already installed windows?
[06:52] <cani> differ, yes im alredy running edgy eft
[06:52] <Nexus_BSD> ant: that si what i assumed by a few psots i seen in a few gogle searches
[06:52] <Chapayev> <_ nex u might need the ndiscrapper package
[06:52] <Chapayev> good luck w/ that
[06:52] <student_modnar> hello, could someone please help me figure out why I'm having problems executing a file I downloaded and chmod'ed to 0777 where all my other programs execute fine?
[06:53] <cani> differ, i already did this: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:53] <Chapayev> see if u have 1.38 - if not get it and make it
[06:53] <mkquist> Moreau - any luck?
[06:53] <ant> Nexus_BSD : intel has linux drivers on their page
[06:53] <student_modnar> it says No such file or directory when executed
[06:53] <ant> ipw2200 is what mine is using
[06:53] <Nexus_BSD> i actually have that sitting on my desktop
[06:53] <Chapayev> how is that not on-board 6.10 ant ?!
[06:54] <Chapayev> so get it poppin nex
[06:54] <Nexus_BSD> ant: i have both the ipq2200-fw-3. and the ipw220-1.2.1
[06:54] <cani> and i added some lines
[06:54] <Nexus_BSD> i did a make config
[06:54] <Nexus_BSD> nothing
[06:54] <Chapayev> maybe u gotta blacklist some others
[06:54] <Moreau> no it keeps giving me the sudoers error
[06:54] <Nexus_BSD> Moreau: what is the sudo error your getting?
[06:54] <Chapayev> neway theres plenty of garbage info at the wifi wiki
[06:55] <Nexus_BSD> ant: any other possible sggestions?
[06:55] <kaushal> Hi
[06:55] <Chapayev> so that shld hold u  for a few hours
[06:55] <kaushal> I am getting /bin/cat: proc/ksyms: no such file or directory. while booting
[06:55] <kaushal> Enabling Swap Space: OK
[06:55] <Chapayev> nex have u seen the wiki on wifi
[06:55] <cani> differ, i added the following lines: title Windows XP
[06:55] <cani> root (hdx,y)
[06:55] <cani> savedefault
[06:55] <cani> makeactive
[06:55] <cani> chainloader +1
[06:55] <Nexus_BSD> no no i have not
[06:56] <Nexus_BSD> thi sis my first attempt at configuring wifi on linux
[06:56] <Chapayev> so much ffun - bro get to it
[06:56] <cani> differ, it was root (hd2,0) not root (hdx, y)
[06:56] <Chapayev> i gave up and returned the damn thing (in 6.06)
[06:56] <succeedservices> How do I get the synaptics touchpad disabled completly on my dv8000 laptop,  I have tried several tutorials on the ubuntu forums and elsewhere.
[06:56] <mkquist> Nexus_BSD - he had the /dev/hda1/mnt/cpx w/no space i think
[06:56] <Landon> x-mplayer2- Anyone know how to install it? Or where I can find it to install?
[06:57] <Chapayev> btw netgear claims they have no product that works w/ linux ;)
[06:57] <Nexus_BSD> lol
[06:57] <neozen-beer> lol
[06:57] <Chapayev> in a polite indian tone (of course)
[06:57] <neozen-beer> Chapayev: their MA111v1 works just great with linux
[06:57] <Moreau> i got it except the patrtion was destroyed
[06:57] <Nexus_BSD> Chapayev: my buddy was havign issues with pcbsd and wifi got a netgear WR115 or soemthin gliek that and it worked just fine
[06:57] <Chapayev> i feel like callin back just to Fw/em
[06:58] <Moreau> fucking 60$ software 'Guaranteed NOT to erase your data" suck my cock
[06:58] <neozen-beer> Chapayev: is based on the prism2 chipset... which is definately linux friendls
[06:58] <kaushal> any ideas
[06:58] <Nexus_BSD> ant: think i shoudl just re-install?
[06:58] <neozen-beer> *friendly
[06:58] <Chapayev> nex on 6.10 like i said things shld be bettr
[06:58] <mkquist> Moreau - whut happened?
[06:58] <Nexus_BSD> Chapayev: keyword is *should*
[06:58] <cani> differ, my mistake, i did that to add the windows partition to grub
[06:58] <Landon> x-mplayer2- Anyone know how to install it? Or where I can find it to install?
[06:58] <cani> wich im also having trouble
[06:58] <Chapayev> so whats the prob already ?!
[06:58] <Nexus_BSD> Chapayev: whats the command to update your kernel?
[06:58] <mkquist> Moreau - how do u know its destroyed?
[06:58] <Chapayev> freakin look at the community dods
[06:59] <Chapayev> kernel ?!
[06:59] <Chapayev> how about that update thingy in the menu system..?
[06:59] <Chapayev> <-- it savant
[06:59] <ant> Nexus_BSD : did you get the latest drivers from sourceforge?
[06:59] <Moreau> 'wrong fs type. bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or other error'   then i typed  'sysllog' and it said  'cant find a valid FAT filesystem on dev hda1'
[06:59] <Chapayev> not the synapse one but the other thing
[07:00] <Chapayev> yeah no oem drivers - only their shit
[07:00] <Chapayev> good one ant
[07:00] <goose> Greetings, I wanted to ask a question about gnome 2.18, how do I actually upgrade my current gnome desktop 2.16 tp 2.18?
[07:00] <mkquist> Moureau - did u fdisk -l and make sure u have the right one?
[07:00] <cani> i added this line to add the partition: title Windows XP
[07:00] <cani> root (hdx,y)
[07:00] <cani> savedefault
[07:00] <cani> makeactive
[07:00] <cani> chainloader +1
[07:00] <mkquist> Moreau - sry did u fdisk -l and make sure u have right part?
[07:01] <Chapayev> so why not ndiswrapper Nex?
[07:01] <Moreau> yeah its the right one
[07:01] <Chapayev> ahh ant?
[07:01] <mkquist> Moreau - and the error can come up for a few reasons, that dont mean part is dead
[07:01] <Moreau> well 'cant find a valid FAT filesystem on /dev/hda1" means its dead right
[07:01] <Chapayev> <- chain smoked through too many ubuntu_failures
[07:01] <Landon> Anybody know how to get x-mplayer2 and how to play embedded files?
[07:01] <mkquist> Moreau - not necessarily
[07:01] <cani> ok i have a mess, im trying to add a mountig point of a windows partition and i also want to add it to grub
[07:02] <Chapayev> yeah guys is ubuntu iporn compatibvkle?
[07:02] <BHSPitMonkey> ugh
[07:02] <cani> i added this to /etc/fstab : /dev/hdc1       /windows ntfs nls=utf8, umask=0222 0 0
[07:02] <BHSPitMonkey> My microphone is doing fine, playing back in realtime through the speakers
[07:02] <Chapayev> I'm havin particular trouble w/ 89.com
[07:02] <arrow> I looked at the date 3 days ago and saw that it was the nineteenth, and got all excited, and went to get the official release of fiesty fawn, and found out I have a whole month to wait :(
[07:02] <BHSPitMonkey> but It's not getting picked up in a program
[07:02] <student_modnar> Moreau - have you tried a testdisk by chance yet?
[07:02] <BHSPitMonkey> it's an OSS program, and I can -hear- stuff in that program
[07:03] <mr_grump5> hi ppl..i need some help in editing grub to default settings...i have xp in fat32 and ubuntu in dual boot..now xp doesn't boot..while ubuntu works flawlessly
[07:03] <Moreau> whats a testdisk
[07:03] <Chapayev> is there a skype thingy for ubuntu?
[07:03] <genii> cani add it to grub as hd(2,0)
[07:03] <student_modnar> Moreau - its a program that is at least available in Knoppix, it scans and recovers partitions
[07:03] <arrow> Chapayev, yes
[07:03] <shmeelAway> if i have a external monitor, and my laptop has a VGA output, what will plugging in the external monitor do? will just the external monitor show a screen or what
[07:03] <cani> let me try
[07:03] <Chapayev> arrow - nu where ?
[07:04] <student_modnar> Moreau - also apparently available in edgy's archives
[07:04] <arrow> Chapayev, let me look
[07:04] <Chapayev> i need a decent irc - that wont kill this amd
[07:04] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to fix this error?  http://burner.ath.cx/gnome-settings-daemon.png
[07:04] <mkquist> student_modnar - recovers ntfs partitions?
[07:04] <mr_grump5> any one..how to get back my grub to boot to xp?
[07:04] <Moreau> k im gonna do d/l testdisk, thanks
[07:05] <bur[n] er> !grub > mr_grump5
[07:05] <student_modnar> Moreau - haven't seen it do ntfs yet, but it worked for a FAT32 once forme
[07:05] <student_modnar> sorry mkquist I meant
[07:05] <arrow> Chapayev, Its in Synaptic Package Manager, it says that its a Voip
[07:05] <Chapayev> brb off to rol one
[07:05] <Moreau> sweet, my hd is all fat
[07:05] <mkquist> Moreau - you still might wanna check make sure ur mount is good and everythings set right b4 giving up on the partition
[07:05] <cani> genii, im gonna restart to see if it works, thanks for the help
[07:06] <genii> cani np
[07:06] <mkquist> Moreau - if you have or can d/l a copy of Knoppix, itll auto mount anything it can from live cd
[07:06] <Moreau> ill get knoppix too then
[07:06] <mkquist> Moreau - and let you see whats good w/no console or terminal commands
[07:07] <student_modnar> mkquist - yeah I swear by it at work when I need to fix win boxes
[07:07] <arrow> whats a win box?
[07:07] <mkquist> oh yea, i use if to fix win and linux boxes.. cause its quicker the ubuntu live cd
[07:07] <mkquist> and the auto mount is nice too
[07:07] <shmeelAway> if i have a external monitor, and my laptop has a VGA output, what will plugging in the external monitor do? will just the external monitor show a screen or what
[07:08] <mkquist> arrow - sarcasm...
[07:08] <mr_grump5> ppl i need help..how to edit the grub so that it dual boots to xp and ubuntu..now it only boots to ubuntu
[07:08] <arrow> windows I'm assuming now
[07:08] <student_modnar> *nod*
[07:08] <mkquist> lol
[07:08] <arrow> <---- wishes it was sarcasm
[07:08] <mkquist> !grub
[07:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:08] <Landon> Hey all, anyone know how to install x-mplayer2?
[07:09] <student_modnar> Landon - have you tried mplayer and then the mozilla plugin, what you're asking for sounds like the MIME type
[07:09] <genii> shmeelAway: There is usually something like a FN key in lower bottom left or so. If you hit that and one of the function keys along the top which controls lcd/external you can usually switch displays.
[07:09] <weijie902> hi i have a broaddom 440x wired LAN card, ubuntu and XP
[07:09] <weijie902> i can connect to samba at my office
[07:10] <shmeelAway> genii, k will try it, it's just the default key that came with the laptop? no need to configure anything?
[07:10] <weijie902> but i cant access websites, it looks up the url and hangs at connecting
[07:10] <mr_grump5> ubotu:i went through that donno head or tail...i installed ubuntu on my xp system..now i can't boot to xp..now am in ubuntu.. can u guide me to boot into xp..
[07:10] <Landon> student_modnar: I tried the mozilla plugin from synaptic, installed it with everything else, but it didn't work still, still says I need x-mplayer2 when I try to play embedded video
[07:10] <weijie902> pings time out but the ip addresses are found
[07:11] <rass> Can anyone help me reconfigure my X server? I am new to Linex.
[07:11] <genii> shmeelAway: Since it's just the one video card, you are not going to get dual-displays with different stuff on each like a multi-head adapter. The software just sees 1 card. So the keys just tell to use the laptop screen or the external
[07:11] <kaushal> :/
[07:11] <weijie902> rass, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:11] <kaushal> no help here
[07:11] <mr_grump5> any one..how to fix the grub so it boot back to default settings..i have dual booted xp and ubuntu earlier..now i have problem booting to xp..
[07:11] <cani> i couldn't add the windows partition to grub
[07:11] <dwid> how do i change my password on everything
[07:12] <rass> weijie902, thank you I will investigate
[07:12] <shmeelAway> k thx genii
[07:12] <ant> dwid : sudo passwd <username>
[07:12] <genii> shmeelAway: You're welcome
[07:14] <|Amon|> I have no sound, but alsa is installed and working properly and Ubuntu sees my card and seems to have the proper driver installed...
[07:14] <Madpilot> mr_grump5, you sure you didn't just overwrite XP when you installed Ubuntu?
[07:14] <|Amon|> i'm at a loss.
[07:14] <genii> cani If you want further help from me on this, please use the pastebin website to paste the contents of the files /boot/grub/menu.lst   and /etc/fstab and then i will examine it for clues
[07:14] <arrow> Why does it say "Enter new UNIX passwd" the UNIX par
[07:15] <cani> whats the address?
[07:15] <mr_grump5> Madpilot:i was using the dual boot for years..some how i messed up the grub...i can view xp and other drives from ubuntu
[07:15] <mkquist> hey anyone- can u have two swap partitions?
[07:15] <genii> arrow Because the binary program "passwd" runs on linux as well without modification even tho originally it was for unix
[07:15] <mkquist> and it there any advantage if u can?
[07:15] <ant> arrow : cuz its an old unix command i would assume
[07:15] <Madpilot> mr_grump5, OK, so you didn't just nuke the entire harddrive - that was the first thing to check :)
[07:15] <genii> !pastebin | cani
[07:15] <ubotu> cani: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:16] <arrow> genii, ant, Thankyou for clarification
[07:16] <mr_grump5> Madpilot:how to get the grub back to original settings??
[07:16] <genii> arrow :)
[07:17] <Madpilot> mr_grump5, I've never broken grub myself (not yet...) so I'm not an expert - have you looked thru the !dualboot information?
[07:17] <rewati> hi every body can any one help me i have problem with my synaptic
[07:17] <rewati> hi every body can any one help me i have problem with my synaptic
[07:17] <rewati> hi every body can any one help me i have problem with my synaptic
[07:17] <rewati> v
[07:17] <rewati> hi every body can any one help me i have problem with my synaptic
[07:17] <mr_grump5> !dualboot
[07:17] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:17] <Madpilot> rewati, quit spamming!
[07:17] <ant> lol
[07:18] <|Amon|> genii, that's called /ignore.
[07:18] <rewati> sorry
[07:18] <Moreau> the goggles! they do nothing!
[07:18] <rewati> sorry
[07:18] <ant> !ask | rewati
[07:18] <ubotu> rewati: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:18] <rewati> i had problem in my keyboard
[07:18] <genii> |Amon|: Is that what they're calling it these days? ;)
[07:18] <cani> genii, here is the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11456/
[07:18] <ant> rewati : its called food crumbs.. it happens to the best of us
[07:18] <genii> cani OK, I will read it and see what may be the issue
[07:19] <rewati> ant i am not able to install anythin through apt-get
[07:19] <Chapayev> re :)
[07:19] <mr_grump5> Madpilot:nope..how to edit the grub from terminal?
[07:19] <|Amon|> so, where do i start with my sound problem...?
[07:19] <H264> what is a good 64bit IRC client?
[07:19] <Chapayev> ok - all jokes aside - i cant switch screen res down ?!
[07:19] <ant> rewati : why not?
[07:19] <|Amon|> H264, bitchx
[07:19] <cani> i used gparted and it says my windows partition is in /dev/hdc1
[07:20] <arrow> a bit off topic, but I bought a dvd drive with a SATA conection, and I have IDE conection in my computer, is there an adapter that anyone knows of?
[07:20] <Flannel> H264: any client in Ubuntu will be in 64bit as well.
[07:20] <Madpilot> mr_grump5, does that WindowsDualBootHowTo URL not have the information you need?
[07:20] <daziplqa> hi all
[07:20] <mr_grump5> Madpilot:nope
[07:20] <H264> gaim does not really want to work, I don't like it anyway...
[07:20] <daziplqa> i'd like to thank all peaple here that do help others
[07:20] <Chapayev> turn down screen res anyone??
[07:20] <Madpilot> ubotu, grub > mr_grump5
[07:20] <Flannel> H264: GAIM isn't an IRC client.  Try Xchat
[07:21] <goosfraba4u> I did 'sudo chown user /media/drive' but received, "Operation not permitted". How do I change the permissions of a mounted drive?
[07:21] <arrow> daziplqa, I'll second that
[07:21] <Chapayev> nice flannel  thats how ? get answered
[07:21] <Chapayev> i just had to wait long enough
[07:21] <genii> cani grub menu.lst looks OK tho perhaps use tabs  instead of spaces to separate like the other entries. Also maybe remove savedefault for it.
[07:21] <Flannel> !fixres | Chapayev
[07:21] <ubotu> Chapayev: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:22] <rewati> ant its giving this error : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils1_1.21-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[07:23] <daziplqa> i have a question;
[07:23] <daziplqa> how can i restrict some sites from being opened in ff ??
[07:23] <rewati> ant it say about every file i want to install
[07:23] <Flannel> daziplqa: just in firefox?
[07:23] <daziplqa> ??
[07:23] <daziplqa> ya
[07:23] <genii> cani You can test what partitions can load or not by interrupting grub with ESC then manually tell it for instance to boot from a partition
[07:23] <daziplqa> ya flannel
[07:24] <Flannel> daziplqa: hmm.  You might be able to get some netnanny sort of thing as a plugin.  Why do you only want to restrict them in FF?
[07:24] <|Amon|> robert@purgatory:~$ lspci | grep audio
[07:24] <|Amon|> 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]  (rev 07)
[07:24] <|Amon|> 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[07:24] <genii> cani The fstab entry you gave earlier works to read the disk ?
[07:25] <ok_kid> hey, everybody, looking for some help:  ok_kid
[07:25] <daziplqa> there are some bad (sex, etc.. ) sites that should be restricted
[07:25] <Flannel> !away > inuyasharenegade
[07:25] <rewati> geni i am getting this error in synaptic : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils1_1.21-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[07:25] <saaron> does anyone know a good browser to use? i've tried firefox but its too slow on my shitty computer
[07:25] <Flannel> daziplqa: right, but why do you only want to restrict them from FF?  Someone could just open a different browser or whatever and connect
[07:25] <daziplqa> in IE, it was very easy, what about FF ??
[07:26] <cani> genii, how can i see if it works to read the disk?
[07:26] <ok_kid> i am having the Linux OS trying to start at the first boot, even though there is no OS on my machine....anybody know how to get that off of there?
[07:26] <cani> genii, i can see the disk in gparted, its at /dev/hdc1
[07:26] <daziplqa> no, my brothers will can not do
[07:26] <Chapayev> re :) from xchat
[07:26] <Chapayev> like Gd this is soo much better
[07:26] <cani> genii, i should use hd(2,0) or (hd2,0) as the other entries?
[07:26] <ant> !easysource | rewati
[07:26] <ubotu> rewati: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:27] <daziplqa> is there higher solution to do to prevent my IP from accept them ??
[07:27] <genii> cani If you see files in /windows directory then ut mounted /dev/hdc1 under that directory with ntfs and you will see whatever was in the partition in the ntfs system
[07:27] <|Amon|> ?
[07:27] <chris_> do virtual hard drives work???
[07:27] <H264> ...
[07:27] <Chapayev> who was it Flannel - respect ! i asked about this too many timez
[07:27] <rewati> ant i hav done that the also its givin the same problem
[07:27] <daziplqa> mmm, where were you go ?
[07:27] <ok_kid> hello, any helpers there?
[07:27] <eV64> !ask
[07:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:28] <ok_kid> i did
[07:28] <eV64> ph missed it
[07:28] <ok_kid> no once came back on it
[07:28] <ok_kid> so i tried again
[07:28] <Broady> [17:26]  <ok_kid> i am having the Linux OS trying to start at the first boot, even though there is no OS on my machine....anybody know how to get that off of there?
[07:28] <eV64> ok
[07:28] <ok_kid> trying to get the Linux OS to stop automatically trying to boot, cause i erased the disk it was on.
[07:28] <eV64> so you have a computer with an erased hard drive, and when you power on, linux still tries to boot?
[07:28] <Seveas> Broady, by installing another os...
[07:28] <Chapayev> ok kid so wait till sone else asks - its the latest #ubuntu craze
[07:28] <eV64> oh
[07:28] <Broady> Seveas - not my Q
[07:28] <Seveas> err, ok_kid --^
[07:28] <eV64> grub is still your bootloader
[07:29] <H264> when I try to install xch I get this error: W: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/<longURL>/filename.deb 404 not found
[07:29] <Vogala> My ubuntu live CD wont boot on my new box.  Im assuming it has something to do with a graphics driver for my 8800gts.  Any ideas on how to get ubuntu installed?
[07:29] <cani> genii thats another thing im having trouble, i tried to mount the windows partition
[07:29] <H264> *xchat
[07:29] <eV64> you need to remove grub, going back to windows ? :(
[07:29] <ok_kid> the best way i learn is to do, do i have been practicing, and i mess up things sometimes and work my self into a hole
[07:29] <ant> rewati : pastebin your sources.list
[07:29] <Seveas> H264, try apt-get update before installing. If that doesn't help: switch to anothr mirror
[07:29] <H264> :/
[07:29] <cani> genii, i added this line in fstab: /dev/hdc1	/windows ntfs nls=utf8, umask=0222 0 0
[07:29] <H264> too many updates for tonight
[07:29] <Flannel> daziplqa: check out dansguardian
[07:29] <H264> 150+megs
[07:30] <daziplqa> what ?
[07:30] <H264> and I'm on 56K modem
[07:30] <daziplqa> what dansguardian ??
[07:30] <|Amon|> cani, you should know it's dangerous to write to ntfs
[07:30] <eV64> re-install ubuntu.
[07:30] <ok_kid> where is grub located.
[07:30] <daziplqa> is * ??
[07:30] <Chapayev> i need to do 200+ MB over gprs ?!
[07:30] <|Amon|> from nix
[07:30] <genii> cani OK, so then from a console/terminal do: sudo mount /windows         command and then tell me what it says
[07:30] <chris_> i was messing around with virtualbox and noticed that you can take your virtual harddisk all the way to 2tb i was wondering if it would really work like a 2tb hd
[07:30] <Madpilot> daziplqa, dansguardian is a netnanny-type censorware app
[07:30] <Seveas> H264, tough luck then :)
[07:30] <ok_kid> and about windows, i am experimenting with different linux OS, while keeping windows....
[07:30] <mjbrooks> ant: Hello ant
[07:30] <genii> cani If it is many lines use the pastebin
[07:30] <Chapayev> if ubuntu mails u the cd does it circumvent the update tihng
[07:30] <eV64> ok_kid, http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-26320.html may help
[07:30] <Flannel> Chapayev: no.  It mails the same image as you downloaded
[07:31] <Madpilot> Chapayev, no, the Ubuntu CDs are pressed from the same images you download
[07:31] <Chapayev> oh awesome that is so clever
[07:31] <ant> mjbrooks : sup
[07:31] <cani> genii i got this: [mntent] : line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad
[07:31] <cani> mount: can't find /windows in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:31] <mjbrooks> ant: got a new system
[07:31] <daziplqa> hey allll
[07:31] <genii> cani Good, this is progress
[07:31] <Chapayev> actually i think buntu is the smoothest partition to running ive seen
[07:31] <ok_kid> hey, thanks, i am going to look at that, but sometimes i have a hard time understanding the instructions.
[07:31] <mjbrooks> ant: HP Pav 6000 series
[07:31] <Flannel> chris_: it cant, unless you had 2tb+ to allow it to use
[07:32] <Chapayev> incl osx
[07:32] <cani> |Amon|, you are saying that i sould mount it as read only?
[07:32] <ant> mjbrooks : tell me you got a youtube page for me?!
[07:32] <eV64> ok_kid, i'll be here a bit longer
[07:32] <|Amon|> cani, yep
[07:32] <rewati> ant i am new to irc can u tell me where shud i paste my source list as i dont want to  flood the main screen
[07:32] <mjbrooks> ant: not yet   still moving data over
[07:32] <Seveas> !pastebin | rewati
[07:32] <ubotu> rewati: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:33] <|Amon|> i have a separate fat32 partition to share between nix and doz
[07:33] <cani> |Amon| what should i change to make it read only ?
[07:33] <genii> cani so then, type:   sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,user,nls=utf8 /dev/hdc1 /windows       and then report
[07:33] <|Amon|> i dont have my ntfs part mounted in fstab
[07:33] <floresc7> hey, anyone know if beryl can run on dapper?  the beryl website said it cant but i have a walk-through here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper
[07:33] <|Amon|> so im not sure
[07:33] <mjbrooks> ant: though I gotta say, I was in Vista for a bit, so I don't think I'll have to reach deep to show frustration ;)
[07:33] <Seveas> mjbrooks, heh
[07:33] <Flannel> floresc7: it can.  See #ubuntu-effects
[07:34] <Mickey> anyone here using e17?
[07:34] <Seveas> !anyone | Mickey
[07:34] <ubotu> Mickey: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:34] <|Amon|> the only reason i keep XP installed is for photoshop (which works like crap with wine) and for reason which is only available for *doz
[07:34] <ant> mjbrooks : got a good video card, wireless?
[07:34] <Vogala> does ubuntu work with nividia 8800gts video cards?
[07:34] <ok_kid> by for now, i thank you much, and i am going to try that.....may be back in a while.
[07:34] <genii> |Amon|: gimpshop :)
[07:34] <floresc7> cool, thanks Flannel
[07:34] <Geoffrey2> can anyone point me to a good primer on the ubuntu sound system?
[07:35] <mr_grump5> i have pasted my grub list here.. could anyone check this  and tell why my comp is not dual botting to xp? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11457/
[07:35] <|Amon|> genii, gimp sucks
[07:35] <mjbrooks> ant:yuppers NVIDIA 7400 and no broadcom ;)
[07:35] <rewati> ant i hav pasted it
[07:35] <ant> mjbrooks : :)
[07:35] <ant> rewati : the address?
[07:36] <Mickey> anyone know of any e17 apps?
[07:36] <rewati> ant http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11458/
[07:36] <eV64> Vogala, it will work, it's whether or not it will support opengl.  It will not support all the features that directx 10 does as far as I know
[07:36] <genii> cani If at console/terminal you type:   sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,user,nls=utf8 /dev/hdc1 /windows   does it give any messages?
[07:36] <Flannel> mr_grump5: you've got an awful lot of kernels in there.  You know you can remove them via apt, right?  But yeah, that looks like it's correct.
[07:36] <mjbrooks> ant: booted to the Herd 5 live CD and the only issue (other than it's buggy) is that it failed to load the nv drivers and I had to tell it to use a widescreen resolution
[07:37] <ant> mjbrooks : i'm going to wait another month
[07:37] <mr_grump5> Flannel:but it doesn't boot into flannel>?
[07:37] <mr_grump5> Flannel:but it doesn't boot into xp mann..
[07:37] <mjbrooks> ant: for the realease?
[07:37] <ant> rewati : what are you trying to install
[07:37] <Vogala> im assuming im having a driver issue with my 8800 because the live cd will not boot into the graphical desktop like it does on my old box
[07:37] <Flannel> mr_grump5: Right.  Try changing "root" to "rootnoverfy"
[07:37] <cani> genii, i got: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, missing codepage or other error
[07:38] <ant> mjbrooks : yea, not in the mood right now to upgrade
[07:38] <mjbrooks> ant: me too, but I wanted to make sure the wifi worked and edgy doesn't have networkmanager by default I don't think
[07:38] <mr_grump5> Flannel:where?
[07:38] <genii> cani Then it seems to me that hdc1 is not a ntfs partition
[07:39] <rewati> ant thunderbird
[07:39] <genii> cani But try again except omit the utf part
[07:39] <rewati> ant many things are there that i am tryin to install like plugins for eclipse
[07:39] <cani> genni, but i can boot to windows xp with that drive
[07:39] <Chapayev> someone just tell me how to lower my res pls - no sites and wikis (!)
[07:39] <Chapayev> or establish 6x8 as default
[07:39] <Chapayev> right now - it hangs and drops back to login
[07:39] <Chapayev> a tut vobshe ruskiye yest'?
[07:40] <Chapayev> back to xbox f'n lag
[07:40] <mjbrooks> Vogala: Dell 8800?
[07:40] <Flannel> mr_grump5: At the end, with the windows stuff.
[07:40] <ardchoille> Chapayev: You trying to change screen resolution?
[07:40] <Vogala> xfx 8800 gts
[07:40] <Yggdrasil> ?
[07:40] <genii> cani PLs try same command again but with only -o ro,user   instead of -o ro,user,nls=utf8
[07:41] <daya> how many modem do ubuntu supports, can anyone provide me a lists
[07:41] <fghj> !fglrx
[07:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <daya> i am talking about internal modems?
[07:41] <Flannel>  !hardware | daya
[07:41] <ubotu> daya: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:41] <cani> genii, i got the same error
[07:41] <giskardd> i found out ubuntu amd64 can't install my wireless driver (64bit) with ndiswrapper. is there a way to switch to linux-386 using the repos on cdrom?
[07:41] <genii> cani OK. Does the directory /windows   exist?
[07:41] <mjbrooks> Vogala: does it give you an error??
[07:42] <|Amon|> genii, why wouldn't you create the directory in /mnt?
[07:42] <|Amon|> instead of on the root
[07:42] <daya> ubotu, thanks
[07:42] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:42] <Vogala> yes. will reload off the livecd again to let you know exactly what it is saying
[07:42] <genii> |Amon|: That is the original dir he gave as his mountpoint.
[07:42] <cani> yes, is in the same level as bin, debian, hombe, boot, dev, var, etc
[07:42] <|Amon|> oh my bad
[07:42] <mr_grump5> Flannel:when i give give option as xp and try to boot it just shows me   grub menu viz  root ,save default,make active  and chain loader..any ideas?
[07:43] <mr_grump5> Flannel:it boots flawlessly in all other kernals
[07:43] <mjbrooks> |Amon|: some people prefer their windows partition mounted on /windows because it's easier for them.   personally, I prefer to put a link there instead
[07:43] <Flannel> mr_grump5: What?  when you push enter on that option, it just displays the text?
[07:43] <Flannel> mr_grump5: like I said, try changing the "root" to "rootnoverify"
[07:44] <Chapayev> ardchoille?
[07:44] <|Amon|> easy, just type /mnt w tab
[07:44] <|Amon|> er /mnt/w+tab
[07:44] <genii> cani OK. So now, in console/terminal do:  sudo fdisk /dev/hdc       then after:  p   to get a list of partition kinds on your computer for the hard drive. Please paste this to the pastebin. Then do: q     to quit with no changes
[07:44] <mr_grump5> Flannel:ye it just shows me the text..i can just edit
[07:44] <Flannel> mr_grump5: right, you need to edit it.
[07:44] <mjbrooks> |Amon|: as opposed to /w+tab
[07:45] <|Amon|> ln -s
[07:45] <|Amon|> :p
[07:45] <mjbrooks> |Amon|: that's what I said ;P
[07:45] <anime_cell> hello ppl i was wondering if someone can help i need to burn 25 vid files to dvd ...... my problem is wen i burn the dvd and take them to windows they will not keep the file names where i have to copy all the files to windows rename everything then burn them on to anther dvd ..... plz guys there must be a way i have been using xfburn and cd/dvd creator
[07:46] <anime_cell> is there another burner i should use
[07:46] <cani> genii, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11459/
[07:46] <cookie> hi, does anyone know how to solve a problem with ubuntu installation, after the installation was finished with no errors. it said "Please remove the CD and close the tray ..."
[07:46] <genii> cani OK, reading
[07:46] <mr_grump5> Flannel:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11460/  any more changes>
[07:46] <cookie> and I did it, and when I hit ENTER, nothing happened.
[07:46] <cani> genii thank you very much
[07:46] <cookie> ???
[07:46] <mr_grump5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11460/
[07:47] <|Amon|> anime_cell, use k3b
[07:47] <mjbrooks> cookie: it takes a moment
[07:47] <ant> i knocked over my drink and killed my terminal at the same time..
[07:47] <anime_cell> |Amon| : thanx i will try
[07:47] <student_modnar> would running a 64-bit kernel by chance cause the error message No such file or directory to come up when trying to run a program?
[07:47] <cookie> what do you mean?
[07:47] <|Amon|> ant, last year i spilled birthday cake on my keyboard and killed it...
[07:47] <student_modnar> especially a precompiled binary?
[07:47] <|Amon|> its why i only buy 10$ kbs
[07:47] <diginet> ubuntu sites is currently down U_U
[07:47] <|Amon|> :] 
[07:47] <diginet> site
[07:48] <genii> cani OK, all is well then and we do have the correct partition. Did you install linux to more than 1 harddrive, or install it to one then switch disks around or something like this?
[07:48] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: no, perhaps you mis-spelled the file
[07:48] <Flannel> mr_grump5: no, does that still not work?
[07:48] <Chapayev> in that moment cook got to irc doofis =- somjetinswrong
[07:48] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: well I did ./step and tabbed to complete the file name
[07:48] <ojk007> !steam
[07:48] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[07:48] <ojk007> !games
[07:48] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:49] <ojk007> whats the ubuntu gaming irc?
[07:49] <cani> genii, i installed linux on a single disk, i used all the disk for linux, then i added another hd with the windows installation, but when i installed linux, the windows hd was not there
[07:49] <anime_cell> |Amon| : i should have mentioned i'm on edgy and not running kde
[07:49] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: you're trying to execute it?
[07:49] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: so the file name is correct, and I can run other programs, but this one it claims it can't find
[07:49] <giskardd> i need help downgrading ubuntu 64bit to 386
[07:49] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: yes, I have chmod'ed it to 0777 just in case
[07:49] <Flannel> ojk007: don't believe there's a specific channel
[07:49] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: damn you neat me to the next question   lol
[07:49] <Flannel> giskardd: you can't. Have to download the 32bit and reinstall
[07:49] <|Amon|> anime_cell, k3b runs fine on edgy
[07:49] <|Amon|> in gnome
[07:50] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: grin, sorry, I'm perplexed by it entirely
[07:50] <anime_cell> |Amon| : oh just checkin
[07:50] <genii> cani what languages or language does your Windows use if it is not english?
[07:50] <Chapayev> i need help downgradfing my screen res
[07:50] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: try typing the full path
[07:50] <cani> genii, it is english
[07:50] <cookie> hi, anyone could answer my problem?
[07:50] <ant> rewati : i lost that apt error. what was it?
[07:50] <cookie> with the installation failure?
[07:51] <Flannel> Chapayev: does... uh, what is it.  ctrl-alt-minus do anything?
[07:51] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: no luck, I've even added to ${PATH}
[07:51] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: and did an export
[07:51] <genii> cani What english? eg: US, Canada, New Zealand, etc etc
[07:52] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: that is weird? which release are you using?
[07:52] <cani> genii, im pretty sure is US
[07:52] <eV64> cookie, are you installing ubuntu?
[07:52] <genii> cani OK, let me research for a little bit then. Will return
[07:52] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: that first sentance was supposed to be a statement not a question
[07:52] <cani> genii, thanks for your time
[07:53] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: edgy kernel 2.6.17-11
[07:53] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: 64 bit xubuntu
[07:53] <Ayabara> I have installed a network driver on my system. In the properties for the printer I found an option to choose two-sided printing. how can I print multiple sides on one sheet?
[07:54] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: I was hoping you's say feisty so we could blame it on a development release   ;)
[07:54] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: I wish...:(
[07:54] <ojk007> !counterstrike
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about counterstrike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <ojk007> !valve
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about valve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: I have never seen a linux program do this....after all bash finds the file
[07:54] <ant> ojk007 : i think you need cedega
[07:55] <Chapayev> this is the last time i mix coke w/  linux !
[07:55] <ferronica> I have just installed  Generate CD disc covers for jewel-cases but where is the program icon
[07:55] <Chapayev> step down the screen res in 6.06 pls ?!
[07:55] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: and you're just tyoing the name of the executable right?  not typing an argument with it to another file?
[07:55] <ferronica> I have just installed  Generate CD disc covers for jewel-cases via terminal but where is the program icon
[07:55] <ant> Chapayev : ctrl+alt+numpad_minus
[07:55] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: just the name of the file, it's stepmania if you're curious
[07:55] <reduz> Hi!!
[07:55] <ferronica> sorry from synaptic
[07:55] <rewati> ant the error was : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils1_1.21-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[07:56] <eV64> !wine | ojk007
[07:56] <ubotu> ojk007: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:56] <Chapayev> nice!
[07:56] <Chapayev> now - i see the upper 1/4 of my old desktop
[07:56] <Flannel> rewati: and re-updating doesn't fix it?
[07:56] <rewati> student_modnar r u frm modinagar
[07:56] <giskardd> thanks Flannel
[07:56] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: downloaded, untar-gzipped, chmod'ed and then ran
[07:56] <student_modnar> rewati: no, modnar = random backwards, *shrugs*
[07:56] <eV64> ojk007, you can run steam with wine, i  had it setup in edgy a bit ago, search google for some nice guides
[07:56] <reduz> QUESTION: I upgraded to Ubuntu 6.10, and I can't ctrl-alt+ and ctrl-alt- to change screen res (zoom)!! Also I canlt ctrl-alt-f1/2/3/4 to go to a textmode console! How do I fix this?
[07:57] <genii> cani If at console/terminal you type:   sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,user,iocharset=utf8,umask=000 /dev/hdc1 /windows  does it give some message?
[07:57] <eV64> system>preferences>scren resolution
[07:57] <ojk007> eV64: yeah i am its just laggy as hell, oh im testin herd 5 atm
[07:57] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: maybe it's corrupted?   hmmm   It's boggling
[07:57] <cani> genii, let me try
[07:57] <eV64> ctrl + alt + F1 works for me in edgy!
[07:57] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: I viewed the file in less and it has ELF in it, so I think it's the right format?
[07:57] <rewati> flannel ya it dosent fix it
[07:58] <reduz> eV64, well, I went the upgrade route and now nothing works
[07:58] <Chapayev> ant shld i re-login
[07:58] <MonaLeilani> Is there any way to get Ubuntu to install from a hard drive? Not from a CDROM, not from a network install, etc?
[07:58] <ant> rewati : maybe a broken package?? i dunno
[07:58] <eV64> reduz, have you looked up ubuntu keybinding?
[07:58] <ant> Chapayev : i dont care, its not required as far as i know
[07:58] <reduz> eV64, what is that?
[07:58] <MonaLeilani> I don't have a CD drive
[07:58] <rewati> i have checked in synaptic there is no broken package
[07:58] <MonaLeilani> and I'm about to tear my hair out
[07:59] <Vogala> mjbrooks: sorry im a little slow.  the specific error im getting when trying to boot off the live cd is "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[07:59] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: the only thing I can think of is that it might be dependant on some other file and that file is missing
[07:59] <cani> genii, do you want me to paste it here?
[07:59] <MonaLeilani> I'm about to give up on Ubuntu all together
[07:59] <genii> cani If only 1 line, yes
[07:59] <ant> rewati : thunderbird comes built in to firefox doesnt it?
[07:59] <mjbrooks> Vogala: and what does the output say  is the problem?
[07:59] <MonaLeilani> Anyone? Please?
[07:59] <cani> actually there are many lines , ill go to the website
[08:00] <|Amon|> where can i start on my sound problem
[08:00] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: that's definitely a possibly, but I can't think as to why it'd say can't find that program name
[08:00] <Chapayev> the way access is built into word
[08:00] <|Amon|> i think ubuntu has the driver installed right and it sees my card in lspci
[08:00] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: usually there's a ton of cryptic error messages :), I almost miss them
[08:00] <|Amon|> and i have alsa and everything installed...
[08:00] <reduz> Upgrading sure was a stupid idea, i should have reinstalled to go from dapper to edgy eft
[08:00] <MonaLeilani> I made a partition, put the installation files on it, and hid all the other partitions
[08:00] <|Amon|> im at a loss
[08:00] <genii> cani OK
[08:00] <MonaLeilani> should boot from it, but it won't
[08:00] <reduz> now a lot of stuff just doesnt work after upgrading to edgy eft
[08:00] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: yeah   it's got me stumped
[08:00] <rewati> ant i dont see it i want to install mozilla thunderbird ant other softwares also
[08:00] <ant> reduz : i bet your keyboard isnt setup right
[08:01] <Vogala> mjbrooks: i am a complete linux noob, but I think it is "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[08:01] <reduz> ant: I fail to see how this has anything to do with the keyboard
[08:01] <|Amon|> rewati, have you tried evolution?
[08:01] <eV64> reduz, looking, sec
[08:01] <makuseru> is there anything like a EQ analyzer like in amarok, but fullscreen?
[08:01] <cani> genii, actually i got the same error msg
[08:01] <eV64> reduz, Ctrl+Alt++ = Switch to next X resolution
[08:01] <eV64> Ctrl+Alt+- = Switch to previous X resolution
[08:01] <|Amon|> evolution is more like outlook and thunderbird is more like outlook express
[08:01] <rewati> amon ya but that dosent apeal me much
[08:01] <|Amon|> np
[08:01] <reduz> eV64, I know, but it just doesnt work
[08:02] <cani> wrong fs type, blabh blah blah
[08:02] <eV64> reduz, maybe copy your home and uninstall after feisty is released?
[08:02] <mjbrooks> Vogala: know how to use the pastebin?
[08:02] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: I guess I'm going to go to src, thanks though
[08:02] <eV64> reduz,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42404
[08:02] <Chapayev> nice - but when i stepped down - im 'sliding' around on a dek thatrs too big ?
[08:03] <Vogala> mjbrooks: no, can you point me to a website to explain?
[08:03] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: wish I could say it was help  ;)
[08:03] <rewati> amon my evolution  dosent show adress while typing names
[08:03] <MonaLeilani> I will paypal someone $10 to help me.
[08:03] <Chapayev> is screen and desktop res separet?
[08:03] <student_modnar> mjbrooks: it is, I don't feel crazy or stupid
[08:03] <eV64> sorry, but off to sleep
[08:03] <reduz> eV64, It is a builtin X11 shortcut, it has nothing to do with gnome
[08:03] <genii> cani OK. When you choose from the grub menu to boot windows, does it begin to boot it at all? When you test the drive to see it boots without the linux, is it in the same ribbon and IDE socket on the motherboard or do you plug it in to be primary master when testing and then switch it to secondary master when seeing if it boots from grub?
[08:03] <Chapayev> strong mona
[08:03] <reduz> eV64, it's not "custom", just builtin, and doesnt work anymore
[08:03] <mjbrooks> Vogala: paste the output at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and send me the url you get back
[08:03] <rewati> ant as my apt-get is not workin how can i install softwares
[08:04] <Askar> I have no sound! How can I fix that????
[08:04] <mjbrooks> student_modnar: nope,   definately not you ;)
[08:04] <MonaLeilani> I need help
[08:04] <MonaLeilani> please.
[08:04] <MonaLeilani> Pleaaase.
[08:04] <Chapayev> sorry mona if i had enoug blow for another day or so..
[08:04] <reduz> eV64, it worked in any linux distro for the last 15 years
[08:04] <reduz> eV64, now in edgy edft doesnt work anymore
[08:04] <cani> genii, it never tries to boot, i goot an error imeadetly, the hard drives are both primary drives each on a separate ribbon
[08:04] <trond> I just reformatted my harddrive to ext3 from ntfs. Now I can not write to my harddrive without being root. The line in fstab looks like this: # Entry for /dev/hdc6 :
[08:04] <trond> /dev/hdc6 /media/yne ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[08:04] <trond> 
[08:04] <trond> sollutions?
[08:05] <MonaLeilani> Installing Ubuntu from a hard drive. Why is that so difficult?
[08:05] <genii> cani when you installed Windows, was it the master on the second ribbon as it is now?
[08:05] <Vogala> mjbrooks: I cant copy and paste from the computer im having trouble with.  Should I just manually type it all in?
[08:05] <makuseru> is there anything like a EQ analyzer like in amarok, but fullscreen?
[08:06] <|Amon|> how can i troubleshoot this sound problem... i get absolutely no sound and ive checked to see if it sees my sound card with lspci (it does) and alsa is installed and seems to be working?
[08:06] <mjbrooks> Vogala: no that would be too much to type   lol    1 sec
[08:06] <cani> genii, i installed windows before i installed ubuntu, so the drive was the primary drive in one ribbon, the other drive was not there
[08:06] <ant> reduz : how can you not see it "maybe" a keyboard problem.. if you have your keyboard setup "wrong" the ctrl key will not represent the ctrl key.
[08:06] <genii> cani Good, that is what I wanted to know LOL
[08:06] <reduz> ant: it represents the ctrl key in any application
[08:06] <ant> thus no shortcuts will work for you.
[08:07] <mjbrooks> Vogala: look for an error before it says no screens found
[08:07] <genii> cani So then when you test to see windows booting, how do you go about this?
[08:07] <cani> genii, thanks i apreciate the time you take to help me
[08:07] <cani> genii, i went to the bios and changed the startup disk
[08:07] <ant> reduz : if you have your keyboard setup to some international keyboard settings the keys are moved around.. has nothing to do with any apps
[08:07] <Vogala> mjbrooks: just saw this "(EE) No devices detected."
[08:08] <bullgard4> Using Ubuntu, how can I type unicodes into my keyboard?
[08:08] <reduz> ant it's US english and is setup as that, and no keys are moved around. alt-ctrl-backspace can kill the xsever, but the other shurtcuts dont work anymore
[08:08] <mjbrooks> Vogala: what was it trying to do just before that?
[08:08] <makuseru> is there anything like a EQ analyzer like in amarok, but fullscreen?
[08:08] <reduz> seems i'm not alone, but no answer was provided - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2271109
[08:09] <trond> My fstab is ok=
[08:09] <trond> ?
[08:09] <ant> reduz : well then i stand behind you, shouldnt of upgraded.
[08:09] <Vogala> mjbrooks: the line immediately above that is " (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" "
[08:09] <Matthai> hi, anybody knows what is going on with ubuntu website?
[08:10] <Matthai> "Unable to connect to database server"
[08:10] <mjbrooks> Vogala:which release is it?
[08:10] <crimsun> Matthai: known issue, being addressed currently.
[08:10] <Vim> I can't find my current bookmarks.html in Edgy Eft.  In which folder is it?  (This is my first posting ever in any IRC channel)
[08:11] <Vogala> mjbrooks: I just downloaded it today, 6.10 I think?
[08:11] <Broady> pfft download
[08:11] <Broady> order it through the mail!
[08:11] <Broady> it was suprisingly quick
[08:11] <MonaLeilani> I already downloaded it...
[08:11] <ant> Broady : like less than an hour quick?
[08:11] <genii> cani Windows has it's own version of grub.lst in a way. It has in there the disk # and partition #. You need to go into windows. Edit this file to include a second entry just like the first entry except put the disk as 1 instead of 0.If there is a slave on the first ribbon, it should be 2 instead of 1. When you change in bios the boot drive, windows still sees it as grub equivelent of...
[08:11] <genii> ...hd(0,0) instead of it's new hd(2,0) or so.The file you need to edit is called boot.ini and it is in the root of windows c:\ drive
[08:11] <MonaLeilani> And I don't have a CD-ROM DRIVE!
[08:12] <Broady> hehe ant
[08:12] <Broady> nah, maybe a week or 2?
[08:12] <ferronica> Is there any application like Nero Cover designer for ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[08:12] <Broady> good for free!!
[08:12] <mjbrooks> ant: do you know if edgy has a boot option for safe video like feisty does?  I haven't booted edgy from CD n awhile
[08:12] <ant> mjbrooks : sure does
[08:12] <genii> mjbrooks: They all do
[08:12] <mjbrooks> ant: thanks
[08:13] <Chapayev__> re:) sttill swimming on my desktop yall
[08:13] <mjbrooks> genii: I never noticed till Feisty ;)
[08:13] <Chapayev__> i just cant logoff - #ubuntu  is addictv
[08:13] <mjbrooks> shows how awake I have to be to do installs   lol
[08:13] <ferronica> Is there any application like Nero Cover designer for ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[08:13] <Vogala> mjbrooks: i have tried the safe video option with the same results
[08:13] <mjbrooks> Vogala: hmm
[08:13] <reduz> let's see if anyone else knows
[08:14] <ferronica> Is there any application like Nero Cover designer for ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[08:14] <reduz> QUESTION: I upgraded to Ubuntu 6.10, and I can't ctrl-alt+ and ctrl-alt- to change screen res (zoom)!! Also I canlt ctrl-alt-f1/2/3/4 to go to a textmode console! How do I fix this? (hint this is a builtin command of xfree86/xorg and has been there in any linux distro for the past 15 years)
[08:14] <cani> genii, ok i will restart and change that, ill try to connect from windows, thanks
[08:14] <Vogala> mjbrooks: i read some forums about driver support upfront for the 8800 series cards.  is there a way to upgrade the live cd with the drivers from nvidias website?
[08:15] <mjbrooks> Vogala: update the CD to boot from?
[08:15] <genii> cani I'll be here
[08:15] <ant> Vogala : just goto the recovery kernel and apt-get 'em
[08:15] <makuseru> is there anything like a EQ analyzer like in amarok, but fullscreen?
[08:16] <reduz> makuseru, why do you want full screen?
[08:16] <ant> lol
[08:16] <makuseru> because its neat
[08:16] <reduz> makuseru, if what i'm asking for would work, you could have your equalizer full screen :)
[08:16] <genii> reduz ctrl- ctrl+ only works if you have more than one resolution in xorg.conf  As for the consoles I am having a similar issue
[08:17] <reduz> genii, I do have a ton of resolutions in there
[08:17] <reduz>         SubSection "Display"
[08:17] <reduz>                 Depth           24
[08:17] <reduz>                 Modes           "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480" "320x240"
[08:17] <reduz>         EndSubSection
[08:17] <reduz> I have plenty :)
[08:17] <makuseru> why would i want the EQ fullscreen? it dosnt move like the analyzers do
[08:17] <ferronica> Is there any application like Nero Cover designer for ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[08:17] <Chapayev__> im bleeding but my ubuntu is set
[08:18] <reduz> Also I added, just to make sure
[08:18] <reduz>   Option "HandleSpecialKeys" "Always"
[08:18] <reduz>   Option  "DontZoom" "false"
[08:18] <reduz>   Option  "DontVTSwitch" "false"
[08:18] <reduz> Still those dont work at all
[08:19] <ferronica> Is there any application like Nero Cover designer for ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[08:19] <trond>  I just reformatted my harddrive to ext3 from ntfs. Now I can not write to my harddrive without being root. The line in fstab looks like this: # Entry for /dev/hdc6 :   /dev/hdc6 /media/yne ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[08:20] <Vogala> ant: i can get to a terminal, but am not familiar with how to download drivers with apt
[08:20] <genii> reduz Sure it's ctrl-alt  and not just ctrl? Also, for ctrl-alt-f1/f2 etc try for an experiment ctrl on right side of keyboard then alt on left side
[08:20] <ant> !nvidia | Vogala
[08:20] <ubotu> Vogala: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:21] <reduz> genii, no go
[08:21] <reduz> genii, alt-ctrl backspace works fine, so it's not a problem of key mapping
[08:21] <Madpilot> ferronica, for making CD labels? Try glabels.
[08:21] <reduz> genii, the thing is disabled for some reason
[08:21] <reduz> Ubuntu really gave me hope when I used Dapper, that a proper linux distro with proper packages and no issues existed, but after upgrading from Dapper to Edgy Eft, i can see it's the same crap as in debian :(
[08:21] <genii> reduz OK I'm outta immediate ideas then :)
[08:22] <cani5> genii, i should look at the boot.ini right?
[08:22] <cani5> genii, i have [operating systems] 
[08:22] <cani5> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
[08:23] <naught101> how do I get jack to start on start up?
[08:24] <genii> cani Good. multi is the ide controller number. Copy this entire line and change multi(0) to multi(1) in the new line
[08:24] <ant> naughty :  system > admin > sessions
[08:25] <genii> cani Hmm actually, it may be disk(0) but you can make a 3rd entry even if you like
[08:25] <ant> naught101 : otherwise it'll be crontab
[08:25] <genii> cani I always forget which is which but you can even put all combos if you like, each on a separate line
[08:26] <cani5> genii, im confused now, i have : multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
[08:26] <cani5> multi(1)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
[08:26] <reduz> genii, I just noticed I can still do it by using xvidtune
[08:27] <genii> cani5 Yup
[08:27] <koala^> hi there, someone I know has just installed ubuntu 5.10  how do you change the font size in the desktop display?
[08:27] <naught101> ant: sessions has nothing about adding a script on startup, and I don't know the command anyway :/
[08:27] <cani5> genii, can i restart it now?
[08:27] <genii> cani5 You can have any number of these lines, one for each operating system that windows understands
[08:27] <ant> !crontab | naught101
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <ant> blah
[08:28] <genii> cani5 Add a line multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
[08:28] <Menasim1> I can't open PHP files in my local server
[08:28] <genii> cani5 Then try reboot
[08:28] <Menasim1> after installing apache perl
[08:28] <ferronica> Madpilot: actually i wanna program like nero cover designer
[08:28] <naught101> I don't want to run jack daily, I want to run it all the time
[08:28] <Frogzoo> koala^: sys -> prefs -> fonts
[08:29] <cani5> genii, ok, thanks , im rebooting now
[08:29] <Madpilot> ferronica, I've never used/seen nero cover designer - what does it do that glabels doesn't?
[08:29] <trond> Is there a gui frontend for cronjob?
[08:29] <ant> naught101 : you can have it run at startup
[08:29] <koala^> Frogzoo thanks :)
[08:29] <trond> It definately should be at least
[08:29] <ferronica> Madpilot: to print CD Label, i am using A4 size paper sticker paper
[08:30] <Frogzoo> ferronica: glabels?
[08:30] <Madpilot> ferronica, glabels has templates to print CD labels, I use it all the time
[08:30] <arooni> hey folks
[08:30] <arooni> my mysql is broken
[08:30] <arooni> help!!!
[08:30] <ferronica> Madpilot: what type of paper do you use
[08:30] <arooni> heres error
[08:30] <arooni> http://pastie.caboo.se/48694
[08:31] <Menasim1> any way to get back the old apache2.conf?
[08:31] <Madpilot> ferronica, North American 8.5x11, but I'm pretty sure there's an a4 template too - is there an Avery # for your sticker sheet?
[08:31] <Frogzoo> ferronica: glabels
[08:31] <Menasim1> ?
[08:31] <genii> crap just caught an error in his boot.ini file where he changed the partition number when he pasted the line in ...grrrrrrrrrrr
[08:32] <ferronica> Madpilot: In my A4 size paper two Circle in cutout predefined
[08:32] <ferronica> Madpilot: which one should i use
[08:32] <genii> hangon thats not right
[08:33] <Madpilot> ferronica, aside from being A4,your sheets sound identical to the letter-sized ones I use. One sec, let me start glabels
[08:33] <Madpilot> ferronica, start glabels, go File->New, switch the first dropdown to A4, look thru the list until you find a template that looks right
[08:34] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok i choose Avery 8676: CD/DVD LABELS
[08:34] <Madpilot> ferronica, scroll down to the Avery 8676 template. glabels has literally thousands of templates included.
[08:35] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok i choose Avery 8676: CD/DVD LABELS
[08:35] <Madpilot> ferronica, good, then hit OK, and start drawing shapes/adding text, whatever
[08:35] <ferronica> Madpilot: now proble is that how to align printer to start from that circle to print
[08:36] <Madpilot> ferronica, glabels has very, very accurate alignment, assuming your printer isn't totally screwed up.
[08:36] <Menasim1> how can I get an old backup of a file
[08:36] <Vogala> mjbrooks: just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376483  , gonna try that real quick. it is exactly the problem i am having
[08:37] <ferronica> Madpilot: my A4 sheet look same as you see in glabel, two circle where i wanna to print
[08:37] <Madpilot> ferronica, good - you might want to run a test print on blank regular paper, just to double-check the size & alignment
[08:37] <ferronica> Madpilot: but when i give command to print , my printer start printing from left
[08:38] <mjbrooks> Vogala: I'll cross my fingers for you ;)
[08:38] <andruk> in feisty, the package php5-myqli throws a notice, where should i go to report this?
[08:38] <mjbrooks> ant: now I have to decide my partitioning scheme ;)
[08:39] <andruk> *php5-mysqli
[08:39] <haze76> Is there more software available in Synaptic in 6.10 and 6.06 than the Feisty Fawn herd 5 release?
[08:39] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok let me try it
[08:39] <mjbrooks> ant: more room that I know what to do with  lol
[08:40] <elodsson> hi
[08:40] <willg> yo
[08:40] <mr_grump5> Flannel:no luck..when i give the xp as option it comes back to boot menu
[08:40] <ant> mjbrooks : i split mine 5 ways /, /boot, /usr, /var, /home
[08:40] <elodsson> if i have some questions where can i look for answers?
[08:40] <willg> what's the question?
[08:40] <elodsson> xgl
[08:40] <willg> ugh
[08:40] <elodsson> for ubuntu of course
[08:41] <willg> ok
[08:41] <andruk> #ubuntu-xgl, i believe
[08:41] <willg> shoot
[08:41] <mjbrooks> ant: no swap?!  lol
[08:41] <andruk> or #ubuntu-effects, theyre the same thing
[08:41] <ant> lol, who needs it
[08:41] <Vogala> mjbrooks: it fails when trying to restart gdm.  :'(
[08:41] <Chapayev__> im smokuin my 3rd j tonight and styill no ans
[08:42] <willg> or, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[08:42] <elodsson> ok, i'll try it
[08:42] <kraut> moin
[08:42] <crimsun> elodsson: #ubuntu-effects for additional info; check the topic
[08:42] <mjbrooks> Vogala: did you edit it in an editor or use that sed line?
[08:42] <willg> crimsun: yo
[08:43] <Chapayev__> sure they always convince u to ask
[08:43] <crimsun> willg: sup
[08:43] <willg> chilling
[08:43] <azlan> rk.net
[08:43] <willg> just got home and was bored
[08:43] <elodsson> crimsun: thanx
[08:43] <ant> naught101 : you still there?
[08:43] <Vogala> mjbrooks: sed
[08:43] <Chapayev__> otherwise trhis sadism would grind to a halt
[08:43] <willg> thought I would join a channel where I could talk about something
[08:43] <mjbrooks> Vogala: the sed might not have made the change
[08:43] <crimsun> hehe
[08:43] <mr_grump5> could anyone help with grub..i have xp as dual boot..now when i give xp as option..nothin happens..my grub http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11463/
[08:43] <willg> had many PBR's and Red Bulls
[08:44] <andruk> where is a good place to plst the bugs i have found with feisty?
[08:44] <Chapayev__> will g !
[08:44] <mjbrooks> Vogala: know how to use vi?
[08:44] <Chapayev__> wanna chat ubuntu
[08:44] <Vogala> mjbrooks: i tried looking at vi, but couldnt figure out how to do anything with it other than helping the kids in uganda. lol
[08:44] <Chapayev__> they buswt ui for that
[08:44] <mjbrooks> Vogala: lol
[08:45] <mr_grump5> anyone how to fix the grub to dual boot to xp?
[08:45] <Chapayev__> im actuaklly listening
[08:45] <mjbrooks> Vogala: vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:45] <mr_grump5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11463/
[08:45] <Chapayev__> to my #ubuntu sndtrk
[08:45] <Chapayev__> we no trust 'em
[08:45] <mjbrooks> Vogala: type "i" to go into insert/edit mode
[08:45] <mjbrooks> Vogala: make your changes
[08:46] <willg> Chapayev__: what's up
[08:46] <mjbrooks> Vogala: type ":wq" to write the file and quit
[08:46] <willg> Chapayev__: I'l try to help, but my mental state is altered
[08:46] <mjbrooks> Vogala: oh,  hit ESC before ":wq"
[08:47] <genii> If cani returns please tell him I'm returning shortly
[08:47] <mkquist> !grub
[08:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:47] <genii> (cofferun)
[08:47] <Vogala> mjbrooks: thanks, ill try that now
[08:47] <mkquist> mr_grump5 hope that helps that was for u
[08:47] <haze76> How come the localization in Ubuntu is only half done?
[08:48] <haze76> I thought that was one of the most important aspects of Ubuntu....
[08:48] <naught101> ant: yeah, sorry, what's up?
[08:48] <haze76> Is 6.06 more localized than 6.10 ?
[08:48] <mjbrooks> Vogala: just glad you don't want emacs, I'd have to use the pastebin to tell you how to do it   lol
[08:48] <ant> naught101 : i was mistaken, init.d is the file you want to edit.
[08:48] <Snurglewozzle> hi
[08:48] <cani> genni, i couldnt boot to windows from grub
[08:48] <naught101> ok
[08:48] <elodsson> willg: another question?
[08:49] <naught101> I can't even get jack to run manually yet
[08:49] <elodsson> i mean can i ask?
[08:49] <willg> elodsson: sure
[08:49] <Frogzoo> in irssi, how to view the current ignore list?
[08:49] <mjbrooks> /me dope slaps ant
[08:49] <elodsson> willg: i have installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <mjbrooks> lol
[08:49] <Chapayev__> willl did u see my msgs?
[08:49] <genii> cani You caught me just as I am going to get a coffee :) I will return in perhaps 5 minutes
[08:49] <ant> mjbrooks : its about that time
[08:49] <elodsson> willg: than i have uninstalled xubuntu-dektop
[08:49] <cani> genni, no problem, im gonna go to bed now
[08:50] <mjbrooks> ant: I know that feeling
[08:50] <cani> genni, thanks for your help, ill see if tomorrow we can get it going
[08:50] <elodsson> willg: but my log-in window is still xubuntu
[08:50] <Snurglewozzle> how can I convert avi to xscreensaver format?
[08:50] <elodsson> how come?
[08:50] <genii> cani OK, I may likely be here
[08:50] <ant> sudo sleep -h now...
[08:50] <mjbrooks> ant: long live caffeine
[08:50] <Chapayev__> and coke
[08:50] <robokop> is there a way to takeover an app which is running on my pc when i ssh to that pc?
[08:50] <Chapayev__> the other cola
[08:50] <cani> genii, good nite
[08:51] <foutrelis> good morning :)
[08:51] <mjbrooks> robokop: take over?
[08:51] <mr_grump5> ppl am a newbie..this is my partition table http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11464/ and  this is my grub http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11463/ how to dual boot??
[08:52] <mjbrooks> robokop: look into using VNC
[08:52] <robokop> mjbrooks: for example i run gaim and i wan't to just use that instance
[08:53] <willg> elodsson: what do you want your login window to be?
[08:53] <elodsson> ubuntu
[08:53] <ant> mr_grump5 : have you looked at !grub?
[08:54] <willg> elodsson: hmm, I don't know anything about xubtunu or kubuntu
[08:54] <elodsson> willg: and also by starting up the system it is not the brown ubuntu-thingie, it is the kubuntu-logo
[08:54] <willg> right
[08:54] <mjbrooks> !grub > mr_grump5
[08:54] <Geoffrey2> where would I look to make sure there's an ALSA driver installed for my sound chip?
[08:55] <mr_grump5> ant:can't figure it out..i can boot into ubuntu without any fuss...but when i give xp as option  nothin happens
[08:55] <ant> !sound | Geoffrey2
[08:55] <willg> have you removed the xubuntu and kubuntu deskop packages?
[08:55] <ubotu> Geoffrey2: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:55] <elodsson> Willg: is it normal for the system to slow down if i have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[08:55] <mr_grump5> ant:i tried no luck
[08:55] <nospi> can anyone help me setup php-fusion? something is going wrong which has never happened before
[08:55] <nospi> i think it has something to do with my php or mysql config
[08:55] <ant> mr_grump5 : you sure xp is still there?
[08:55] <elodsson> willg: i mean the startup is REALLY slow
[08:56] <ferronica> Madpilot: are you here???
[08:56] <mr_grump5> ant:i can view all the drives and contents from ubuntu
[08:56] <Madpilot> ferronica, yes - what's up?
[08:56] <ferronica> Madpilot: where is the program icon, or i have to start from terminal
[08:57] <willg> elodsson: it shouldn't slow down, no
[08:57] <Madpilot> ferronica, for glabels? Applications->Office->gLabels, I think
[08:57] <ferronica> Madpilot: Okay found
[08:57] <mr_grump5> ant:this is my partition table http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11464/ and this is my grub http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11463/ how to dual boot??
[08:58] <ferronica> Madpilot: from where i can get the CD labels
[08:58] <Menasim1> how can I get an old backup of a file?
[08:58] <Madpilot> ferronica, what do you mean?
[08:58] <mr_grump5> ant:i have dual booted b4..i just messed up the grub
[08:58] <ferronica> Madpilot: i want to print some movies cover
[08:58] <Madpilot> ferronica, you want to get existing images to add to labels?
[08:58] <weijie902> mr_grump5, did you try manually entering grub commands?
[08:58] <ant> mr_grump5: i think (not sure) but grub loads itself into hd0,0.. your trying to load window from there, try hd0,1
[08:58] <dougie> what device would my usb thumb drive be?
[08:58] <Chapayev__> <- under the influence and on a desktop too big for me
[08:59] <ant> mr_grump5: know what i mean?
[08:59] <mr_grump5> weijie902:ye i tried
[08:59] <weijie902> dougie, try dmesg in the terminal, look out for sda or sdb
[08:59] <ferronica> Madpilot: i mean to say, i have a guns and roses CD now i want to print its pic on it
[08:59] <mr_grump5> ant:make those changes and pasted in bin
[08:59] <Menasim1> ?
[08:59] <ferronica> Madpilot: like original CD
[08:59] <weijie902> dougie, most likely its /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb2
[08:59] <Chapayev__> /dev/thumb0
[08:59] <weijie902> Chapayev__, !?!?!?!??!
[09:00] <weijie902> Chapayev__, i never heard of tt
[09:00] <ferronica> Madpilot: from where can i get photo of CD
[09:00] <Chapayev__> did i just say i was high or not?!
[09:00] <Madpilot> ferronica, I've no idea - try Amazon, maybe - I know they've got lots of cover art
[09:00] <ant> mr_grump5 : just change windows from loading from hd0,0 to load from hd0,1... i think grub itself loads from hd0,0
[09:00] <mjbrooks> mr_grump5: soo the line in your grub for XP Pro that says  "root (hd0,0)"?
[09:00] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok, one problem
[09:00] <mr_grump5> ant:u mean the last line??
[09:01] <mr_grump5> ant:got it
[09:01] <mkquist> u know, im not gonna say ubuntu (linux) is easier.... but when u start to understand it and get it going... it is good!
[09:01] <Chapayev__> help im dizzy from this movable desktop
[09:01] <Vogala> mjbrooks: when i type "i" to go to insert/edit mode, it tells me at the bottom in red "W10: Warning: Changing a readonly file"
[09:01] <weijie902> mkquist, same here
[09:01] <ferronica> Madpilot: how to align image 100% correctly to print in that defined area
[09:01] <mjbrooks> Vogala: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:02] <ferronica> Madpilot: because some photo get outside the print area
[09:02] <Chapayev__> yeah ubu's awesome
[09:02] <mjbrooks> mr_grump5: soo the line in your grub for XP Pro that says  "root (hd0,0)"?
[09:02] <mr_grump5> ant:any more changes??  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11467/
[09:02] <ferronica> Madpilot: how to correact it
[09:02] <mjbrooks> mr_grump5: see the line in your grub for XP Pro that says  "root (hd0,0)"?
[09:02] <Madpilot> ferronica, that'll depend on your printer - by default glabels will allow a bit of overflow - it's by design, not a bug
[09:02] <Chapayev__> a topic i can get behind if i did not have to sudo gedit ecvry 10 secs
[09:02] <weijie902> i cant  get webpages to load in my laptop at work, the dhcp seems to be ok, eth0 is up, pings time out
[09:02] <dougie> ok thanks
[09:02] <arooni> help!!!!!! my sony vaio running edgy 6.10 is shutting down randomly when it shouldnt:  1) it shuts down when i unplug the ac adapter 2) it will randomly shut down after using it 30 min or so........ help!
[09:02] <ant> mr_grump5 : thats the only thing that looks fishy to me.
[09:02] <mr_grump5> mjbrooks: is this ok http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11467/
[09:02] <Vogala> mjbrooks: that seems to work, let me try it again now :)
[09:03] <mjbrooks> mr_grump5: change the line in your grub for XP Pro that says  "root (hd0,0)" to "rootnoverify (hd0,0)"
[09:03] <dougie> i think sda might of been my swap partition
[09:04] <mjbrooks> Vogala: yeah,  I"m always forget the sudo part   lol
[09:04] <weijie902> i cant  get webpages to load in my laptop at work, the dhcp seems to be ok, eth0 is up, pings time out, urls are translated to IPs but they wont load
[09:04] <mr_grump5> mjbrooks: i tried it b3 no luck...let me try changing to (hd0,1)..
[09:04] <weijie902> over LAN
[09:04] <weijie902> wifi is ifne
[09:04] <weijie902> broadcom 440x
[09:04] <Chapayev__> if anyone has a cingular cell - i can get the gprs poppin for tya
[09:04] <weijie902> broadcom 440x is my LAN card
[09:04] <arooni> help!!!!!! my sony vaio running edgy 6.10 is shutting down randomly when it shouldnt:  1) it shuts down when i unplug the ac adapter 2) it will randomly shut down after using it 30 min or so........ help!
[09:04] <mr_grump5> ant:let me rebbot and see
[09:04] <Geoffrey2> nope....more of the same...mplayer plays videos fine off the hard drive, but play something embedded in a web page, and no sound whatsoever
[09:05] <mjbrooks> mr_grump5: that might work if you have a recovery partition put there by the manufacturer
[09:05] <ferronica> Madpilot: i am using this site ----> http://www.cdcovers.cc/view/266438/cd1/american-pie---the-naked-mile-widescreen
[09:05] <ferronica> Madpilot: Is this okay
[09:05] <r4nge> what would this line do.. sed 's/ //g' file
[09:05] <Madpilot> ferronica, sure, if it gives you a usable image to drop into glabels, go for it
[09:06] <mr_grump5> mjbrooks:i have the changed sugested by anti and u let me reboot and see
[09:06] <ferronica> Madpilot: how to align correctly photo in page
[09:06] <Deep> !serverstatus
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serverstatus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <Deep> hmm (:
[09:06] <mjbrooks> !anything
[09:06] <ferronica> Madpilot: I am using DESMAT A4ST-2CD
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <Deep> Haha
[09:06] <ferronica> Madpilot: I am using "DESMAT A4ST-2CD"
[09:07] <mjbrooks> !nothing
[09:07] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[09:07] <Vogala> mjbrooks: still no go. lol. not sure what to do other than wait to see if the issue gets worked out in an upcoming release
[09:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: This is my paper name that i am using
[09:07] <Madpilot> ferronica, just try a couple of prints on plain paper, to make sure your printer is as closely aligned as you can get it
[09:07] <mjbrooks> Vogala: you can try Feisty if you don't mind bugs
[09:07] <Deep> Well, i guess this question has been answered quite a few times, but, what's happend to the ubuntu.com-server? (:
[09:07] <Madpilot> ferronica, you might want to look through glabel's stock of templates, there might be one that matches your paper exactly
[09:07] <weijie902> i cant  get webpages to load in my laptop at work, the dhcp seems to be ok, eth0 is up, pings time out, urls are translated to IPs but they wont load
[09:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok you mean i have try to get right one
[09:07] <Deep> Aah, no. Nothing. It's working now. (:
[09:07] <mEck0> Hi! Where can I get Feisty Fawn? I have searched on ubuntu.com, but haven't found :/
[09:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: what paper do you use???
[09:08] <Deep> !feisty
[09:08] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:08] <Deep> Hmm (:
[09:08] <Deep> No useful link there. ;(
[09:08] <Madpilot> ferronica, yes. I use a generic paper that matches up to Avery template #8931
[09:08] <mjbrooks> alpha   lol   that's a stretch
[09:08] <genii> mEck0: http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Ubuntu-Feisty-Fawn-Download-20757.html has a list of latest
[09:08] <Snurglewozzle> ferronica u female?
[09:08] <Geoffrey2> anyone available who can help me figure out why I can't hear audio when playing video files on the internet?
[09:08] <Deep> It's in beta freeze now, afaik
[09:09] <mEck0> genii, thx!
[09:09] <Snurglewozzle> or just another gay stupid fuck who uses ubuntu?:D
[09:09] <Snurglewozzle> "linux for stupid monkeys"
[09:09] <foutrelis> !ops | Snurglewozzle :)
[09:09] <ubotu> Snurglewozzle :): Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[09:09] <Snurglewozzle> that's ubuntu is
[09:09] <Snurglewozzle> ops huh
[09:10] <Snurglewozzle> I should be scared
[09:10] <Vogala> mjbrooks: im lost enough as it is with a stable version.  Ill let people who know what they are doing figure it out. :p
[09:10] <dxdt> haha fear the mods wow
[09:10] <dxdt> that was a fast response
[09:10] <Vogala> mjbrooks: ive got ubuntu up and running on my old computer, so I can tinker with it to try and learn the ropes some.
[09:10] <Deep> !myself
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <Deep> : D
[09:11] <mjbrooks> Vogala: yeah, but you can boot to the liveCD and see if it might work in advance of the release
[09:11] <mike_cribben1> howdy, I'm having problems trying to play .m4a files in Rhythmbox. I installed the faad plugin for gstreamer but I still get an error message when trying to import music to the library.
[09:11] <Madpilot> dxdt, I'm active in the channel, and the ops call gets attention anyway - and ops here lurk, the better to kickban from hiding ;)
[09:11] <Vogala> mjbrooks: boot the liveCD of fiesty your saying?
[09:11] <dxdt> I knew ops lurked, but I didn't know they lurked like that I guess--I dunno lol
[09:11] <mjbrooks> Vogala: sure   don't install it   just try the CD
[09:12] <ferronica> Snurlglewozzle: yes what happend
[09:12] <weijie902> i cant  get webpages to load in my laptop at work, the dhcp seems to be ok, eth0 is up, pings time out, urls are translated to IPs but they wont load, but Samba works 100%
[09:12] <ferronica> Snurlglewozzle: females not allowed here
[09:12] <mjbrooks> Vogala: see if your card works with it
[09:12] <Madpilot> ferronica, ignore that idiot, he's been removed from the channel
[09:12] <Vogala> mjbrooks: i dont see fiesty on the download section of ubunto's website.  do you have a link to a list of mirrors?
[09:12] <ant> mjbrooks : mr_grump5 hasnt come back, maybe i hosed his grub?
[09:12] <mjbrooks> ant: lol
[09:13] <ant> :X
[09:13] <ferronica> Snurlglewozzle: Oh
[09:13] <ferronica> Snurlglewozzle: you mean you use US Letter
[09:13] <mjbrooks> !feisty > Vogala
[09:13] <ferronica> Madpilot: i mean you use US letter
[09:13] <Madpilot> ferronica, wrong user - and yes, I'm in Canada, so US Letter is standard here
[09:14] <Vogala> !feisty
[09:14] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:14] <mjbrooks> ant: he's probbably trying to figure out mIRC
[09:14] <unnicked> hey
[09:14] <weijie902> i cant  get webpages to load in my laptop at work, the dhcp seems to be ok, eth0 is up, pings time out, urls are translated to IPs but they wont load, but Samba works 100%
[09:14] <ferronica> Snurlglewozzle: US letter and A4 are of same size
[09:14] <unnicked> I want to know if Kubunto edgy has Beryl?
[09:14] <Madpilot> ferronica, they're close to the same size, but not exactly
[09:14] <unnicked> by default on the original DVD?
[09:14] <weijie902> unnicked, it can if you install it
[09:14] <Madpilot> unnicked, no, not by default. No version of Ubuntu does.
[09:14] <ferronica> Madpilot: Okay
[09:14] <weijie902> unnicked, beryl works with kde too
[09:15] <Madpilot> Anyway, I need sleep - good night, all
[09:15] <ferronica> Madpilot: which one should i use A4
[09:15] <Madpilot> ferronica, if your actual paper is A4, then use A4
[09:15] <rwxr-xr--> damn.. my Lan Admin.. Restricted Download  Speed.. can i get more speed anyhow?
[09:15] <unnicked> I mean, if I'm able to install it only having the DVD, I don't have internet
[09:15] <mjbrooks> nn madmonkey
[09:15] <mjbrooks> nn Madpilot
[09:15] <weijie902> Madpilot, what about ubuntu ultimate edition lol
[09:15] <ferronica> Madpilot: yes mine paper is A4
[09:15] <clouder`grr> What's wrong with democracyplayer 0.9.2.1  It won't start up, it says 'An unknown error has occured while finishing start up."
[09:15] <Madpilot> weijie902, doesn't count, it's not official.
[09:15] <Madpilot> later all
[09:15] <weijie902> Madpilot, cya
[09:15] <Geoffrey2> hmm, interesting.....Sound Preferences says my sound card is an Intel ICH6, while the tail command returns SigmaTel STAC9752,53
[09:16] <weijie902> i cant  get webpages to load in my laptop at work, the dhcp seems to be ok, eth0 is up, pings time out, urls are translated to IPs but they wont load, but Samba works 100%
[09:16] <_mirra> before I kill myself, could someone explain to me why one ubuntu system would have the package for webmin listed, but another one wouldnt (meanwhile they have exactly the same apt sources list, and have both been updated and upgraded)
[09:16] <unnicked> weijie902: am I able to install it having the DVD? after standard installation?
[09:16] <mjbrooks> weijie902: yeah while we're at it we can have home edition, business edition and a melt your vid card beryl edition
[09:17] <weijie902> mjbrooks, beryl did not melt my video card and iits so much better than vista aero
[09:17] <foutrelis> _mirra: Download a .deb package from http://www.webmin.com/
[09:17] <mjbrooks> weijie902: lol   yeah, but   it probably at least kept your coffee warm  ;)
[09:18] <dxdt> Geoffrey2: Don't know if this helps, but my system does the same weird thing.  I've only ever used the intel though.  In fact, I'm listening to music with it right now.  Don't know why it does that either.  YOu have a dell laptop like me by chance?
[09:18] <_mirra> foutrelis, i am going to..but any idea what that would be
[09:18] <_mirra> and if it isnt listed..i wont get updates right?
[09:18] <weijie902> at 54 Celsius? nah
[09:18] <weijie902> i cant  get webpages to load in my laptop at work, the dhcp seems to be ok, eth0 is up, pings time out, urls are translated to IPs but they wont load, but Samba works 100% please help
[09:18] <foutrelis> _mirra: I also don't have webmin in apt's list on my Ubuntu Server installation. Don't know why though. :\
[09:18] <davidelv> Any idea of why Aero require so much, on my Radoen 9200 64MB, Vista isnt able to flip windows, but beryl works smoothly. Its like MS have a deal with the HW producents
[09:18] <unnicked> another thing
[09:19] <unnicked> what is better for using Beryl, Gnome or KDE?
[09:19] <_mirra> i have 2 vps's and 2 desktops..all but one vps has it...
[09:19] <rwxr-xr--> damn.. my Lan Admin.. Restricted Download  Speed.. can i get more speed anyhow? i m Really thanksfull if someone can help.. want to download fiesty. but with this service i cant download.. so anyone can help me with how get more speed from lan server?
[09:19] <weijie902> davidelv, welcome to microsoft
[09:19] <mjbrooks> unnicked: whichever one you prefer
[09:19] <weijie902> unnicked, yeah
[09:19] <Chapayev> re coiockoo :)
[09:19] <davidelv> unnicked: Gnome, because thats what I prefer :D
[09:19] <unnicked> lol
[09:19] <Chapayev> still swimmin on my desktop
[09:20] <Tom_Kun> davidelv: due to 13 different layers of coding having to run before anything is displayed on screen, in addition to having to tackle microsoft code that has been more or less redundant since windows nt 4? Let's face it. Microsoft really needs to start building code from scratch.
[09:20] <Vogala> mjbrooks: thank you for all your help! im downloading feisty now and am gonna try to sleep now.  ill pick this up tommorow once its done downloading :)
[09:20] <_mirra> foutrelis, how do you install from a .deb again?
[09:20] <foutrelis> _mirra: I 'll do some searching and if I find anything I 'll let you know :)
[09:20] <mjbrooks> Vogala: no  good luck
[09:20] <foutrelis> _mirra: dpkg -i foo.deb :)
[09:20] <_mirra> foutrelis, thank you
[09:20] <mjbrooks> Vogala: s/no/np/;
[09:21] <davidelv> Tom_kun: Like in Vienna?
[09:21] <mjbrooks> brb   re-re-beer
[09:22] <exs> what can i do when I get this error ? "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied"
[09:22] <Chapayev> im seriously within an in of ODing waiting for an ans
[09:22] <dxdt> exs, use sudo, you don't have permission  otherwise
[09:22] <davidelv> Tom_kun> I mean if its true, S must know it
[09:22] <exs> dxdt:  I tried that, it still says the same
[09:22] <unnicked> thanks davidelv
[09:22] <unnicked> im off
[09:22] <dxdt> ?  what are you trying?  like sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:23] <jmg> exs: sources.list isnt an executable
[09:23] <exs> "sudo wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg  sudo -s  apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg  echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145 edgy main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list" <<< this is what it says over at amarok for installing it properly
[09:23] <Geoffrey2> dxdt, Dell Inspiron 6000
[09:23] <jmg> exs: you cant do that because the bash shell doesnt have perms to write to the file
[09:23] <exs> jmg:  what shall i do then?
[09:24] <jmg> sudo -i
[09:24] <jmg> to get a root shell
[09:24] <jmg> or sudo bash -c "blah"
[09:24] <ant> exs : sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:25] <exs> ant: now what
[09:25] <dxdt> dxdt, yeah that's what I have.  And I have both audios listed.  I always just use the intel one.  Everything has always worked for me with that.
[09:25] <[StingRay] >  Hi all. I just reinstalled due to broken HDD. Can I use the kernel I compiled from my previous install on this PC?
[09:25] <ant> exs now i goto sleep
[09:25] <xug> hello. i got a frustrating problem with ubuntu
[09:25] <shinichizio> Er, oops. How do I get helped with Firefox?
[09:25] <nospi> !php
[09:25] <ant> !sources | exs
[09:25] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:25] <ubotu> exs: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:26] <jmg> xug just ask question please
[09:26] <Mithrylsword> hello, i have a problem with a .sh script , after running it says that stdout has no more space, can i do something ?
[09:26] <Chapayev>  <- sparks aniother one - while praying for a smaller desktop
[09:26] <rwxr-xr--> damn.. 9. something kbs @ download..
[09:27] <dxdt> rwxr-xr--, that's a really creative name
[09:27] <xug> installation with the base system went fine. when i tried to boot the first time from hd, computer just reboots. it executes the grub script
[09:27] <xug> when it tries to boot
[09:27] <xug> i got 6.06
[09:27] <Chapayev> in lower res - my desktop is too buig hlp people\1
[09:27] <rwxr-xr--> dxdt :/
[09:27] <xug> and a 400mhz p2 with 128mb of ram
[09:28] <dxdt> rwxr-xr--, I'm seriously I love it
[09:28] <bullgard4> Using Ubuntu, how can I type unicodes into my keyboard?
[09:28] <rwxr-xr--> xug: try to type in 1 line. if u can.
[09:28] <rwxr-xr--> dxdt thanks man :>
[09:28] <xug> rwxr-xr-- :)
[09:28] <foutrelis> Mithrylsword: Is the output of the script useful to you?
[09:29] <rwxr-xr--> dxdt: trying to download . fiesty :) damn with my LAN server.. Admin Restricted download speed :< 9 kbs :< just.
[09:29] <weijie902> i cant  get webpages to load in my laptop at work, the dhcp seems to be ok, eth0 is up, pings time out, urls are translated to IPs but they wont load, but Samba works 100% please help
[09:29] <Chapayev> nice gii - bon apetite
[09:29] <Chapayev> which actually should not be said at the table
[09:30] <Chapayev> im on my 3rd day of ensure plus
[09:30] <dxdt> rwxr-xr--, that's a bummer.  my cable is alright, but I can always hop up to the local university and use their awesomeness if high speed is needed.
[09:31] <rwxr-xr--> dxdt : i cant Get high Speed . my Admin have 2mb uplink. but dont know why he take it restricted for users :<
[09:31] <clouder`grr> !backport
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <Mez|OnAir> !backports | clouder`grr
[09:32] <ubotu> clouder`grr: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:32] <clouder`grr> ty
[09:32] <rwxr-xr--> dxdt : loOkiNg for a way .. anyhow i get more speed from restricted server.. but is there problem my LAN server iz on Linux..
[09:33] <foutrelis> rwxr-xr--: Please talk with your Admin.
[09:33] <rwxr-xr--> foutrelis: i tried it.. but dont know he dont want to users download much n more thingy with maximum speed. f...
[09:34] <tombow> rw-rw-rw- would be a cooler nick (666)
[09:34] <foutrelis> ..
[09:34] <rwxr-xr--> foutrelis: trying to download fiesty from last 4 days :< still i just download 510mb.
[09:34] <xug> do you think lack of ram can cause 6.06-server to reboot when it tries to boot for the first time? do you think making a /boot-partition could help? can the problem be in grub, or is it in the system? grub gives no error
[09:34] <arooni> is it a known issue in edgy that with sony laptops... they'll just randmoly shut down.. and shut down as well when you pull out the ac cord (even though theres battery life)/
[09:34] <arooni> ?
[09:35] <rwxr-xr--> tombow: i love this Permission :p not for all :s
[09:35] <foutrelis> rwxr-xr--: Aren't there any Internet Cafes where you could go download it and burn it to a CD?
[09:35] <rwxr-xr--> tombow : global set :p
[09:35] <tombow> rwxr-xr--, or r---w---- for 420! i'm no clever
[09:35] <tombow> s/no/so/
[09:35] <rwxr-xr--> foutrelis: in my Country there is No High SPeed in cafes :)
[09:35] <tombow> dammit
[09:36] <foutrelis> rwxr-xr--: oh :(
[09:36] <Chapayev> screen res hlp
[09:36] <Chapayev> ??
[09:36] <rwxr-xr--> :>
[09:37] <rwxr-xr--> foutrelis: thats why try to download Fiesty from last 4 days :) Resume Resume n Keep Resume till then it Download 100% :)
[09:37] <master5o1> hi
[09:37] <foutrelis> rwxr-xr--: How far has it gone till now?
[09:38] <bicycledaave> xug:have you tried to delete the "splash" option and to figure out at which step the it stop and turn to reboot
[09:38] <arooni> anyone know about sonys and ubuntu?
[09:38] <arooni> sony laptops
[09:38] <rwxr-xr--> foutrelis: still just downloaded 510mb.. still shows around 6 hours to complete it :)
[09:39] <master5o1> im learning php
[09:40] <master5o1> --->
[09:40] <steven43126> arooni running ubuntu on a sony fine here
[09:40] <arooni> steven43126: damn... cuz my sony laptop
[09:40] <arooni> is shuting down randomly
[09:40] <xug> bicycledaave no i havent. thank you for the tip! ill try it when i get home from work :). the safe mode works neither and there's no splash option though
[09:41] <steven43126> arooni check the logs
[09:41] <steven43126> see if there is anything to give a clue
[09:41] <steven43126> when booting also try the kernel options noapic acpi=off notsc nolapic, just to eliminate common problems
[09:42] <arooni> how do i install mysql
[09:43] <arooni> steven43126: um.... where do i find those
[09:43] <Chapayev> help me klnock tghe size of this desktop down a notch ?
[09:43] <foutrelis> arooni: sudo aptitude install mysql-server-5.0 (for 5.x) sudo aptitude install mysql-server-4.1 (for 4.x)
[09:43] <bicycledaave> xug:I'm not familiar with safe mode, does it boot with the same processes as in the normal mode? FYI:i'm running feisty on my 500Mhz P3 with 192MB laptop.
[09:44] <shinichizio> I have a question about which java update I should download.
[09:44] <steven43126> arooni, less /var/log/messages, and less /var/log/syslog
[09:45] <steven43126> will let you browse the log files
[09:45] <arooni> steven43126: Mar 17 14:24:51 LilArooni gnome-power-manager: (chasetoys) Shutting down computer because battery is critically low (RIDICULOUS... cuz i have 98% battery left
[09:45] <Geoffrey2> I have the latest version of mplayer installed....when playing any video file locally, all is well...when I, for instance, play a video on www.imbd.com, I get audio for the leading ad, then none at all while the trailer plays
[09:45] <steven43126> arooni, to enter the kernel command options upon boot in grub press e to edit the command line, select te line containing the kernel and add those options the the end, then press b to boot
[09:46] <arooni> steven43126: how do i fix the fact that gnome is signaling i have critical battery when i really have like 95% left
[09:46] <xug> bicycledaave well.. um, i dont know :) i think it just boots with different parameters. my point was there's no splash option on the safe boot mode and nothing differs from normal boot. it just reboots :|
[09:46] <steven43126> arooni, in that case for a temporary fix take alook at /etc/init.d
[09:46] <rwxr-xr--> loOkiNg for a way .. anyhow i get more speed from restricted server. mY Admin Restricted Download Speed. but there is a problem my LAN server iz on Linux.. if anyone can Help.. Really appriciate it.
[09:47] <shinichizio> Can someone answer a stupid question or is now a bad time?
[09:47] <steven43126> look for powersaved or anything that looks like it has anything to do with power
[09:47] <foutrelis> shinichizio: There are no "stupid" questions. :)
[09:47] <steven43126> then try a sudo /etc/init.d/powersaved stop for instance
[09:48] <steven43126> if the stops the problem you can install BUM, a nice graphical tool to set those services not to run at boot
[09:48] <shinichizio> Only stupid people then. So, uh, there's various linux updates for javascript here; Linux RPM, Linux, Linux x64, and Linux x64 RPM. What dang one do I get?
[09:48] <arooni> steven43126: huh im still a little confused
[09:49] <arooni> steven43126: so what am i reallyu looking forward should i be grepping etc??
[09:49] <Chapayev> i hearde its time for the stupids to get some ..?
[09:49] <Chapayev> still on a giant desktop here
[09:49] <bicycledaave> xug:yeah, you're right, so you can see at which step it refused to work?also you can check /var/log/messages, and /var/log/syslog
[09:50] <foutrelis> shinichizio: I think there are packages for java. You don't need to download anything manually :)
[09:50] <foutrelis> !java
[09:50] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:50] <arooni> steven43126: you there?
[09:50] <shinichizio> Oh. Neat.
[09:51] <foutrelis> ^.^
[09:51] <shinichizio> That's good, downloading a 15MB thing on my dialup would have been kinda lame...
[09:52] <steven43126> arooni, sorry cd to /etc/init.d
[09:52] <foutrelis> shinichizio: Hmmm. You will have to download sun-java5-jre. You just don't have to do it manually. aptitude will take care of everything :)
[09:52] <billy> good morning earthlings.
[09:52] <steven43126> this is the place that stores all the programs that can be set to run at boot
[09:52] <xug> bicycledaave output is "kernel /boot/blabla (eol) initrd /boot/blabla (eol) savedefault (eol) boot" ZZAP REBOOT :) im not sure does it even start to unpack the kernel :o. ill check the logs, but i think theres no markings
[09:53] <Chapayev> Hi guys - im havin trouble with my desktop - screen is 600/800 - but desktop itself is 12/1600
[09:53] <steven43126> ls, and look for anything that looks like it has anything to do with power, and try a sudo /etc/init.d/nameofservice stop
[09:53] <shinichizio> Oh. Er. Okay. Now to find whatever aptitude is.
[09:53] <Chapayev> i wanna stop sliding atround
[09:53] <xug> bicycledaave the only way to get into shell is to boot from cd's rescue mode :|
[09:53] <steven43126> if that solves your and you can configure to not start next time you boot problem you know it's one of the daemons
[09:54] <foutrelis> shinichizio: You use Ubuntu right? (not Kubuntu etc.) You can open Synaptic :)
[09:54] <steven43126> aroman, sorry im in the middle of something so answers will be sporadic unless someone else can help
[09:54] <steven43126> arooni, even*
[09:54] <shinichizio> Oh. Okay. Sorry. I'm not nearly high enough level of a geek to use Linux competently. I just got a new box from Freegeeks and it's got Ubuntu on it. Durrrr.
[09:55] <billy> shinichizio, what you trying to do?
[09:55] <foutrelis> shinichizio: You 're doing fine :) You 'll learn how to use it soon ;)
[09:55] <shinichizio> I'll probably be in here asking basic (if not stupid) questions in the near future.
[09:55] <shinichizio> Okay. There's a website/game, Nexuswar. The javascript links don't do anything (which is crippling) so I'm troubleshooting. I figure updating java is a fairly obvious one to try.
[09:55] <billy> shinichizio: i know i've asked my share of dumb questions.  feel at home, my brotha.
[09:56] <arooni> steven43126: how do i make those services not start the next itme?  you metnioed something about installing something?
[09:56] <billy> shinichizio: using Firefox?
[09:56] <arooni> steven43126: 1) how do i install it....2) what do i lose if i dont have gnomes power manage rinsalled 3) is there a better power manager than gnomes stuff
[09:56] <thelance> hey quick question where would i go to get the original Edgy eft beta artwork,splash,login, sounds?
[09:57] <thelance> i liked the edgy eft stuff
[09:57] <shinichizio> billy: yup.
[09:57] <foutrelis> shinichizio: Hmmm. I was talking about Java, not Javascript. My bad :( Firefox has it built-in, there shouldn't be any problems. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.
[09:57] <thelance> more then this outdated dapper stuff
[09:57] <NJigelli> my 5yr old 40x cd rom works better than a brand new 16x benq dvd rom...
[09:57] <shinichizio> foutrelis: I didn't know there was a difference. My bad. But so now what?
[09:58] <billy> shinichizio:  have you installed java runtime environment?
[09:58] <shinichizio> billy: I have no idea, so I'm going to assume no.
[09:58] <foutrelis> shinichizio: If you're using Firefox the javascript links should work. Tell me the url where the problem is so I may check it out :)
[09:59] <mirra> hey..are there any reliable methods or software to optimize mysql performance?
[10:00] <billy> shinichizio:  used a "terminal" yet?
[10:00] <mirra> (ex: eaccelerator for php)
[10:00] <shinichizio> foutrelis: http://www.nexuswar.com/map/connect.do (I think you need to be playing for that to make sense though.)
[10:00] <Chapayev> ppl someone help me resize mydesktop  pls
[10:00] <Chapayev> ?!
[10:00] <shinichizio> billy: Er. No. That's different than the command line, right?
[10:00] <thelance> hey whats a good program for gnome to manage login screens?
[10:01] <billy> shinichizio: well, yeah, pretty much.  there may be a technical difference.  but yeah, it's very similar.  Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[10:02] <payal> hi all
[10:02] <shinichizio> billy: I've used that to fiddle with my modem settings (to no avail, but it did do what I asked it)
[10:02] <payal> I want to give passwords to 30-40 users, how do I do it
[10:03] <payal> the password program of ubuntu does not accept --stdin
[10:03] <bicycledaave> xug: you mean that after showing "boot"  it reboot? without any infomation?
[10:03] <payal> any ideas
[10:03] <billy> shinichizio: you can download and install java runtime environment very easily from the terminal.  if you know the name of the package, it's much easier than sorting through Synaptic, though sorting through Synaptic is good for its own reasons sometimes.
[10:03] <shinichizio> Er, okay.
[10:04] <shinichizio> billy: So what's the name? :D Or does it look like I should sort through Synaptic?
[10:04] <foutrelis> shinichizio: Javascript worked fine for me at that site. :\
[10:05] <billy> shinichizio:  if you want to install it through the terminal, type this and away you go!  `sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin``
[10:05] <payal> anyone can help me out ?
[10:05] <foutrelis> shinichizio: Althought it did require to have an account which I don't :\
[10:05] <shinichizio> foutrelis: waaah.
[10:05] <shinichizio> billy: oh, thanks.
[10:05] <xug> bicycledaave yes :o
[10:06] <xug> bicycledaave or if it shows up something i have no time to notice it because the reboot is instant
[10:07] <Chapayev> ppl someone help me resize mydesktop  pls
[10:07] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Yeah, it's an in-game problem. Maybe I've just got firefox set up wrong. If I remember right, it redirects you to a different page when you click it. I get the same problem at hotmail (but hotmail sucks, so I was unconcerned.)
[10:07] <billy> shinichizio: you don't have javascript disabled do you.  or are you surfing with the "NoScript" extension?
[10:08] <mirra> hey..are there any reliable methods or software to optimize mysql performance???
[10:08] <shinichizio> billy: I've got the button checked to enable javascript, and I don't think I'm using any extensions. I don't appear to HAVE any extensions.
[10:09] <foutrelis> shinichizio: I wish I could help further but I can't think of anything that could be causing trouble :(
[10:10] <Menasim1> I want to reinstall ubuntu
[10:10] <billy> shinichizio: so it's more than just that one website that's giving you javascript problems.  that's strange.  not sure either.  in the terminal `sudo apt-get upgrade` to be sure you've got all the latest bug fixes for firefox.  BRB
[10:10] <shinichizio> billy and foutrelis: According to my terminal, I'm downloading six NEW things. So maybe java was just not on my system at all. This should help.
[10:11] <Menasim1> how can I reformat ubuntu and make it like a new installation?
[10:11] <Flannel> Menasim1: download an ISO, burn it, reinstall.
[10:11] <arooni> how do i install sqllite on ubuntu
[10:11] <Flannel> Menasim1: unless you already have a CD, in which case just pop it in and reinstall
[10:12] <bicycledaave> xug:yeah, you can boot with the liveCD, and then mount you ubuntu partition and check those logs to see if there's any clue?
[10:12] <tombow> arooni, learn to use apt-get or synaptic
[10:12] <arooni> how do i nstall postgres on ubuntu
[10:12] <Menasim1> OK what is edgy and that stuff?
[10:12] <arooni> tombow: but which package
[10:12] <tombow> search for it
[10:12] <bicycledaave> xug:i donno more ways to deal with that situation
[10:12] <Menasim1> what does it mean?
[10:12] <Flannel> arooni: depends on what you want to do with it.
[10:12] <tombow> synaptic has a search functionality arooni
[10:12] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Thanks for helping at all!
[10:12] <arooni> Flannel: huh?
[10:12] <Flannel> Menasim1: Edgy is 6.10, the current release.
[10:13] <joga> hello, I'm trying to install java 1.6 on ubuntu 6.10 and the steps in the ubuntuguide are not working for me, when trying to fakeroot make-jpkg, I get "No matching plugins found". The complete output is here http://pastebin.ca/406278
[10:13] <TCE> i've downloaded a GPL Open Source Code for a NETGEAR modem from ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/GPL/  and i'm trying to compile it using ubuntu. but it doesn't work
[10:13] <santi> hi there
[10:13] <Menasim1> aha thanks :) I'm going to reistall ir
[10:13] <xug> bicycledaave yeah :) thank you anyway
[10:13] <Menasim1> *it
[10:13] <TCE> theoretically i should only write make PROFILE=96338R
[10:13] <Flannel> arooni: what package you want depends on what you're using it with, which language/whatever bindings you need.  Easiest to just search for "postgres" and "whatever you want it to interface with"
[10:13] <bicycledaave> xug:sorry i cant help more
[10:14] <finalbeta> joga: looks like you are trying to make a package from it. I just installed it. sudo ./jre-6-linux-i586.bin
[10:14] <arooni> Flannel: i want to do postgres with rails
[10:14] <arooni> Flannel: there are many versions though!!!!!11
[10:14] <santi> hello need help for unload module that is in use...
[10:14] <joga> finalbeta yeah, but the threads I've read discourage from using the java installer since it might do some ugly stuff
[10:15] <TCE> but i get many error, my question is: which condition should i have to compile such things?
[10:15] <Flannel> arooni: right, which version of ruby are you using?
[10:15] <arooni> Flannel: 1.84
[10:15] <billy> shinichizio: tell us if that helps.  hope it does.  :)
[10:15] <Flannel> arooni: there's only... what, a dozen packages that include both "postgres" and "ruby"
[10:15] <arooni> Flannel: but i dont wanna pick the wrong one
[10:15] <shinichizio> billy: Will do. This is javaSCRIPT I'm downloading, right?
[10:16] <arooni> or pick ones i dont need
[10:16] <Flannel> arooni: Read the descriptions, it's pretty obvious.  You want the extension library one.
[10:16] <shinichizio> billy: -dumb questions regarding the difference between java and it's script-
[10:16] <billy> shinichizio: you mean the sun-java5-jre?  probably won't help.
[10:17] <billy> shinichizio: sounds like you're having general javascript difficulties.  what sort of setup are you on?  computer, hardware wise?
[10:17] <rmz> anyone know how to fix firefox random freezes?
[10:17] <joga> finalbeta well, now I ran the .bin and it unpacked itself to the current directory. How should I install it system-wide?
[10:17] <Flannel> shinichizio: java is a compiled programming language, runs in browsers via applets.  Javascript is nothing like java, except in the name, it's interpretted, losely typed, etc etc.
[10:17] <arooni> Flannel: which one do i want
[10:17] <arooni> in terms of versions
[10:17] <arooni> of postgres
[10:17] <staaleu> I have a dovecot imap mail server up at home, running over ssl. However each time I connect I get a warning that my ssl certificate has expired, how can update/regenerate it?
[10:18] <Flannel> arooni: You don't get a postgres version choice.  The 1.6 vs 1.8 is the ruby version
[10:18] <shinichizio> billy: Uh. According to this little slip of paper, it's a P3 700mHZ. 256MB RAM, 12 gig maxtor HD. Any other relevant hardware stats?
[10:18] <arooni> Flannel: well im talking about the server itself... 7.4 versus 8.1 veruss 8.2
[10:18] <finalbeta> joga: sudo ./installer.bin shouldn't just unpack. It should install itself. Weird, I only used the JDK + netbeans, never did the manual install for the JRE since it comes with the JDK.
[10:18] <shinichizio> Flannel: I see. Thanks!
[10:19] <foutrelis> shinichizio: Hmmm. Lets try something else. Open up your home folder and click view > show hidden
[10:19] <Flannel> arooni: right, the postgres/ruby package will bring in the postgres stuff you need as dependcies
[10:19] <joga> finalbeta I ran it as my normal user...funny that it doesn't complain about that if it detects whether you're running it as root or not..
[10:19] <Flannel> arooni: so, use whatever version it plays well with.
[10:20] <paul__> hi,every body here
[10:20] <joga> finalbeta when I run it with sudo it just extracts itself again over the files
[10:20] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Okay, did that.
[10:20] <foutrelis> shinichizio: Close Firefox before continuing. Find a folder named .mozilla and rename it to .mozilla.old. Then reopen Firefox and check if the problem remains.
[10:20] <finalbeta> jogo then check the dir for an installer script.
[10:21] <joga> finalbeta, doesn't seem to have any
[10:21] <joga> the README also doesn't mention any installation instructions
[10:22] <Didaskal0s> Does anyone know what is in build-essential ?
[10:22] <virtual> need help. why this command does not work   ls -1 *.mat | sed -e 's/^/$PWD\//'
[10:22] <alesdoc> SO: Edgy Problem with Evince - I cannot print more than one page per sheet. Do you have this problem too?
[10:22] <finalbeta> I guess you will have to manually update the symlinks in usr/bin to the correct java binaries. I can't help you with that. sry. Back to google for you :(
[10:22] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Two questions. One, should I stop downloading the java runtime? Two, what is that supposed to do?
[10:22] <joga> finalbeta, thanks
[10:23] <shinichizio> foutrelis: And by 'that' I mean renaming.
[10:23] <santi> question:  is possible to unload fglrx module when it is in use?????
[10:23] <nospi> what's the best linux smtp server?
[10:23] <joga> no
[10:23] <Flannel> !best | nospi
[10:23] <ubotu> nospi: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:24] <foutrelis> shinichizio: The java-runtime is not needed. The renaming of the folder is like creating a new profile. :)
[10:24] <nospi> Flannel, yeah, i know :p i always ask though. what's the easiest for newbies?
[10:24] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Ack! Help! I can't stop de downloadin'!
[10:24] <foutrelis> shinichizio: ctrl + c
[10:24] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Nevermind. Closing the terminal in a panic seems to have worked.
[10:24] <mirra> hey..is there some methods or software that will optimize mysql, speed stability etc..? sort of like eaccelerator and php..
[10:25] <Chapayev> gentle uibuntu folk please help a sad soul
[10:25] <Chapayev> ..resize his desktop
[10:25] <Chapayev> prob so simple its boring
[10:25] <Flannel> nospi: for newbies?  none.  Heh.  SMTP servers aren't for the feint of heart.  There's instructions for... uh, I dont even rememebr.  One of them here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[10:25] <Chapayev> but i have no FF to do research with
[10:25] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Darn. Still not working.
[10:25] <nospi> Flannel, thanks
[10:25] <nospi> Chapayev, System, Preferences, Resize Screen
[10:26] <foutrelis> shinichizio: Delete the new .mozilla and rename .mozilla.old to .mozilla
[10:26] <foutrelis> shinichizio: :(
[10:26] <Flannel> nospi: but, google is the best place to compare that sort of stuff.  I spent many a days deciding on an IMAP server and stuff.
[10:26] <hughs> Chapayev: System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[10:26] <nospi> Chapayev, no sorry, System, Preferences, Screen REs
[10:26] <nospi> ...
[10:26] <nospi> thats the one :p
[10:26] <hughs> ;-)
[10:26] <Flannel> mirra: You're probably better off in #mysql asking that.
[10:26] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Did that. ;_; I'll try fiddling with firefox's java settings
[10:26] <mirra> oo yea..
[10:26] <Chapayev> gentle and kind people would i be here for 3 hrs
[10:27] <Flannel> mirra: but, it might be easier to just hand optomize.  Usually that stuff is.
[10:27] <Chapayev> if that worked ?"!
[10:27] <Chapayev> im high but not dumb
[10:27] <puff> Hm, anybody know CD/DVD creator in ubuntu?
[10:27] <Broady> HOW DO I INSTALL UTNUBU
[10:27] <Flannel> !install | Broady
[10:27] <ubotu> Broady: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:27] <sluimers> hi, what do those linux-image-generic things stand for and would I need more than one? Ubuntu gave me two: 2.6.7-10 and 2.6.7-11. If not, could would 2.6.7-50 or 2.6.7-11 be the best one I could choose from?
[10:27] <Broady> hehe, it's ok
[10:27] <Flannel> Broady: download ISO, burn to CD, boot to CD.  Essentially.
[10:27] <Broady> ive got the CD in the mail
[10:28] <Flannel> Broady: then the first two steps are done for you ;)
[10:28] <Broady> but......... I was trying to install on my bro's comptuer, which has 3 partitions, and as i understand i need 2 for / and scratch
[10:28] <Chapayev> fIN PUT IT IN\
[10:28] <Broady> and it wouldnt let me make an extended partition
[10:28] <mirra> Flannel, i wouldnt even know where to begin
[10:28] <Chapayev> AHHH NOW HE COMES W/ IT
[10:28] <Chapayev> sorry re: caps
[10:28] <puff> I'm trying to burn a DVD using the Nautilus CD/DVD creator... I'm *pretty* sure this has worked in the past, though I'm a bit tired right now... but it asks me where I want to save the file iso.
[10:29] <genii> nospi for a comprehensive , go to http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06 and skim down to the mail setup parts
[10:29] <Flannel> mirra: well, they might have some program to do it.  But, that's definately a #mysql question
[10:29] <shinichizio> And it didn't work. I'll try looking for firefox bug fixes.
[10:29] <santi> problem: reinstall fglrx to a lower version...  i have to install... reboot... install again... reboot.. then it works, i think first time i install is no possible to config because old fglrx module is in use....
[10:29] <mirra> Flannel, i did..thank you
[10:29] <Flannel> genii: that HowTo is actually pretty bad.
[10:29] <Chapayev> help w/ screen size still needed - thanks much for telling me about the prefs panel
[10:29] <mirra> Flannel, they arent too talkative in there..lol
[10:29] <hughs> Chapayev: Whats wrong with the method suggested?
[10:29] <Zaggynl> Hi, I'm trying to download a webdirectory with wget, but I get 'Unknown authentication scheme.', with a browser I have to authenticate using my domain credentials
[10:30] <nospi> genii,  thanks :)
[10:30] <genii> Flannel LOL Well, I used it as a guide originally. No issues
[10:30] <genii> nospi The ubuntuforums may also be helpful
[10:30] <nospi> genii, this guide looks good, thanks :)
[10:30] <nospi> genii, i finally got php-fusion working
[10:30] <hughs> Chapayev: gedit|vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then restart X
[10:30] <nospi> genii, php wasn't properly configured to talk to mysql
[10:31] <nospi> genii, even though phpmyadmin was working. but 'sall good now
[10:31] <hesham> hello
[10:31] <hesham> Error: Verifying archive integrity failed.
[10:31] <hesham> Generated MD5 checksum 598301b0345ab85a202d087f827834fc is different from
[10:31] <hesham> embedded MD5 checksum 8477b86bb586c46265965cc90975231c.
[10:31] <Chapayev> diligent and generous gurus - when i use the panel (which i noticed) it hangs - and then drops back to the login screen
[10:31] <Chapayev> CTRL_ALT__ was sugested
[10:31] <hesham> when i was installing amsn
[10:32] <hesham> anybody got any idea?
[10:32] <genii> nospi Glad to hear
[10:32] <hughs> Chapayev: haven't had a problem with the control panel hanging on me before, but if thats the case, I would just edit the xorg conf manually
[10:32] <alesdoc> SO: Edgy Problem with Evince - I cannot print more than one page per sheet. Do you have this problem too?
[10:32] <eternaljoy> hey hey gang
[10:32] <eternaljoy> cafuego: hello. u busy?
[10:33] <hesham> anybody here?? :S
[10:33] <hesham> anybody for help?
[10:33] <joga> hesham did you try again=
[10:33] <Omeil> How do i register my self?
[10:33] <ir2> hello, anyone can help with a ati driver problem?
[10:33] <shinichizio> foutrelis: How is your firefox set up?
[10:33] <hesham> joga i did
[10:34] <hesham> joga i downloaded the latest version from the site
[10:34] <hesham> then i uninstalled the last version { supported by the os }
[10:34] <foutrelis> shinichizio: By default with Ubuntu. :)
[10:34] <hesham> then i double clicked.. nothing happened.. i followed instructions in the terminal.. and that was the output
[10:35] <Aat56> i'm unsure as to where i should post a bug report, i remember reading from somewhere that firefox is different from distros than from "straight to www.getfirefox.com" so maybe if i bugreport it to mozilla/firefox directly, it doesn't get fixed in ubuntu. so where i should file a bugreport concerning firefox ?
[10:35] <MonaLeilani> hiya. I got grub to load the ubuntu installer for installing from the hard drive, but now it can't find my iso file. Which is weird, because I made its own partition for it and the iso file is the only thing in the partition
[10:35] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Same here! Why won't it work~?! ;_;
[10:35] <hughs> Chapayev: good luck, im off to uni :-)
[10:35] <eternaljoy> crimsun: hello
[10:35] <foutrelis> shinichizio: You can try reinstall Firefox through Synaptic :P
[10:35] <MonaLeilani> any reason why it won't read? does the formatting of the parrtition with ubuntu on it matter?
[10:35] <foutrelis> maybe that could work
[10:35] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Would that help?
[10:35] <MonaLeilani> because it's fat32
[10:35] <Chapayev> gentle and decent folk b4 he lleft hughs generously suggestde i gedit|vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:36] <Chapayev> and restart x?
[10:36] <MonaLeilani> maybe should convert it to ext2 or ext3?
[10:36] <foutrelis> shinichizio: I honestly don't know. But it's worth the try.
[10:36] <Chapayev> some clarification if u can...
[10:36] <hesham> anybody here for help?
[10:36] <Chapayev> what edit am i making
[10:36] <Chapayev> and how do i restart X?
[10:36] <NJigelli> whenever i boot ubuntu 6.10 cd it says gnome settings manager couldnt be started
[10:36] <NJigelli> but i did a disk check and 0 checksums failed
[10:37] <scraper`> anyone care to help with a ati driver problem?
[10:37] <hesham> anybody care to help with amsn installation problem? :S
[10:37] <bullgard4> Using Ubuntu, how can I type unicodes into my keyboard?
[10:37] <joga> hesham what were the installation instructions?
[10:37] <selinuxium_> Hi all, can I attach a vncviewer to another terminal session? If so, how! :)
[10:38] <hesham> joga i found it on the amsn official site
[10:38] <shinichizio> foutrelis: In the event this doesn't work for some damn stupid reason, is it worth spending two hours downloading java runtime to see if THAT helps?
[10:39] <foutrelis> shinichizio: No.
[10:39] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Lol. Okay. (I'd qualify 'worth it' as '15% chance or greater of helping')
[10:39] <hesham> joga.. watch this..
[10:39] <hesham> hesham@Hesham:~/Downloads$ bash amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package
[10:39] <hesham> Error: Verifying archive integrity failed.
[10:39] <hesham> Generated MD5 checksum 598301b0345ab85a202d087f827834fc is different from
[10:39] <hesham> embedded MD5 checksum 8477b86bb586c46265965cc90975231c.
[10:40] <joga> hesham that means that the package is either corrupt or someone messed up the checksums
[10:40] <shinichizio> foutrelis: Okay, that was mysterious. It works now.
[10:40] <hesham> joga redownload then?
[10:40] <foutrelis> shinichizio: Niiiiice! ^.^
[10:40] <billy> shinichizio: how'd you fix it?
[10:41] <billy> i was away refreshing the coffee.
[10:41] <shinichizio> Wait, I lied. That's just some alt text.
[10:41] <joga> hesham try that first
[10:41] <billy> d'ohn
[10:41] <foutrelis> :\
[10:41] <hesham> joga : but yes i should un-install the last version 1st before running this package?
[10:41] <shinichizio> This time I'll run the basic version.
[10:41] <shinichizio> (Instead of the alt-text-having version of the game)
[10:42] <joga> hesham well, if you don't want any crud on your system, it would be best to uninstall the previous version first if you're not using apt to install the newer one
[10:42] <shinichizio> Yeah, still nothing. WHY ISN'T JAVASCRIPT WORKING GWARGH.
[10:42] <billy> shinichizio: are you using Edgy?
[10:42] <shinichizio> billy: I'm using 'drake'.
[10:42] <hesham> okay i will try
[10:42] <shinichizio> billy: Should I update then?
[10:42] <billy> shinichizio: not necessarily.
[10:42] <shinichizio> (Assuming this refers to Ubuntu versions)
[10:43] <eternaljoy> billy: hello. thanksd for trying to help me and my sound earlier
[10:43] <eternaljoy> billy: I hope you didnt feel too bad
[10:43] <billy> eternaljoy: i'm still bummed over that.
[10:43] <billy> eternaljoy: ever get it working?
[10:43] <eternaljoy> billy: no, pls dont be.  your intent was good and you tried very hard. its not what we do that counts as much as the intent behind it
[10:43] <puff> Hm.
[10:44] <eternaljoy> billy: i got it working again by reinstalling the sound drivers from default edgy install
[10:44] <shinichizio> How do I get a hold of firefox's help site? It's not very navigable...
[10:44] <eternaljoy> billy: so i got sound again. so dont worry :)
[10:44] <billy> eternaljoy: good.  still having to reboot to get the sound?
[10:45] <eternaljoy> billy: crimsun gave me a command that put sound drivers back as it was.  and now i have sound.  the only bummer is that I have to reload ubuntu a few times to get sound. but i can live with it :P
[10:45] <eternaljoy> billy: yeah, a few times.  but sometimes im lucky and it works first boot
[10:45] <billy> eternaljoy: well, that sucks, in my humble opinion.  you're wearing out your system just to get freakin' sound.
[10:45] <eternaljoy> billy: sometimes it works first boot, and others the 2nd or third boot
[10:46] <eternaljoy> billy: i have no choice :(   im not going to try to insyall anything again after 3 hours today :P
[10:46] <billy> eternaljoy: i don't blame you.
[10:46] <eternaljoy> billy: ill have to live with it
[10:46] <shinichizio> Okay, so since this isn't #firefox, where should I go for further questioning as to why it's not working?
[10:46] <scraper`> alright, having a problem with the ati fglrx driver for my laptop with a x700 mobility, the driver installs fine I can even run without problems @1280x800 and I also have 3d acceleration. But when I try to shutdown/reboot the system with the driver installed, it just hangs. I click the button or type the command to shutdown (or restart) and I starts shutting down but after the byebye sound is played the screen messes up and it just hangs t
[10:46] <eternaljoy> billy: as i said, sometimes im lucky and it works first boot. eg, tonight i turned it on and sound worked first time :)
[10:46] <Chapayev> anyone have exp editing xorg.conf for x11 ?
[10:47] <Chapayev> anyone have exp editing xorg.conf for x11 ?
[10:47] <eternaljoy> billy: thanks a lot for today.  you were very patient and tried your best to help me.  i deeply appreciate it
[10:47] <billy> eternaljoy:  thanks.  but I still feel like I totally burned you.  I still have an idea, but I think we're both a little burnt out on it.
[10:48] <shinichizio> billy: That reminds me. Thanks for helping me with my completely non-ubuntu-related problem here.
[10:48] <cb__> does anyone know how i find out my netbios name?
[10:48] <billy> eternaljoy:  is ALSA what you're using now?
[10:49] <eternaljoy> billy: well you didnt burn me as I said earlier, its your intent that counts.  you didnt purposely try to burn me. its was just an affect of good will.
[10:49] <billy> shinichizio: no prob.  i enjoy helping.  people help me all the time.  try doing a google linux search.  you can add google linux to your search engine by managing search engines.
[10:49] <eternaljoy> billy: the only thing different is when I right click on speaker icon and chose Preferences, it now has HDA intel Salsa mixer selceted
[10:49] <billy> eternaljoy: thanks for that.  really helps.  just curious.  is ALSA what's driving your sound?
[10:49] <shinichizio> billy: What's google linux?
[10:49] <eternaljoy> billy: after what we did, that wasnt available. and thats what causesd no sound I think
[10:50] <billy> shinichizio: it's google that's restricte to linux pages only.  really good search.
[10:50] <shinichizio> billy: Awesomes./
[10:50] <billy> shinichizio: www.google.com/linux  .  You can also add it to the search engines in the upper right.
[10:50] <billy> shinichizio: but you have to dig around just a touch after selecting "Manage Search Engines".
[10:50] <Geoffrey2> um, how do you kill a job you accidentally stopped?
[10:51] <kbrooks> Geoffrey2, ps -
[10:51] <kbrooks> er
[10:51] <kbrooks> h/o
[10:51] <shinichizio> billy: Neat. Incidentally you wouldn't just happen to KNOW where I could ask about Firefox/Javascript problems, would you?
[10:51] <eternaljoy> billy: it says Salsa
[10:51] <billy> shinichizio: join #firefox.
[10:52] <eternaljoy> billy: when I right click on speaker icon and chose Preferences, it now has HDA intel Salsa mixer selceted
[10:52] <eternaljoy> billy: that wasnt there before
[10:52] <shinichizio> billy: That's a real channel? O.o; My chagrin is nigh.
[10:52] <billy> eternaljoy:  that's good.  at least it's using ALSA now.
[10:53] <billy> shinichizio: well, there may be no one in it.  but I did a channel search, and it *exists*.
[10:53] <shinichizio> billy: There's 47 very quiet people there
[10:53] <santi> how to come back to X when i do: ctrl+alt+F1 ??????
[10:53] <assasukasse> hi all, i am running a web server on an ubuntu machine, i wish to add a sofware firewall, which one do u recommend
[10:54] <billy> eternaljoy:  I still think that adding a `options snd-hda-intel model=laptop` to `/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base` may help though.  It'd be really easy to delete the line if it didn't work.
[10:54] <hateyla> santi: maybe try ctrl+alt+f7 or f8
[10:54] <Chapayev__> re :)
[10:54] <santi> haeyla.. thanks so much
[10:54] <Bonaldo2000> I get a lot of "the drive apears confused" regarding my two cd-rom drives in dmesg. THey appear to be working though, but should I be concerned?
[10:55] <Chapayev__> so " gedit|vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf "   mean anything specioal to anyonwe?
[10:55] <billy> shinichizio:  just give them a sec.  some rooms wait and see how you'll behave before they begin to interact with you.
[10:55] <eternaljoy> billy: what does options snd-hda-intel model=laptop do?
[10:55] <Chapayev__> is that it - am i misbehaving ?
[10:55] <billy> Chapayev__ :  I think we've all done a little work there before.  :)
[10:55] <eternaljoy> billy: we never tried that
[10:55] <Menasim1> I have apache2 installed but not working
[10:55] <shinichizio> billy: Ah.
[10:55] <hateyla> *brb*
[10:55] <billy> eternaljoy: tells your setup that you've got a laptop, basically.
[10:56] <Menasim1> how can I make it work when the pc boots?
[10:56] <eternaljoy> billy: im too scared to change anything again :P
[10:56] <billy> eternaljoy:  well.  it's a far easier fix (just delete the line) than having to re-install modules.  :)
[10:56] <Menasim1> ?
[10:57] <Chapayev__> i want a 600/800 desktop and screen res to match - what goes in xorg.conf ?
[10:57] <deadeye> http://www.vipper.net/vip201694.jpg
[10:57] <billy> Chapayev__ :  you WANT 600x800?
[10:57] <eternaljoy> i added a port to my router and firewall and yet apparently the port is still closed. Anyone have any ideas about that?
[10:57] <Chapayev__> yeah my hardwaRE IS TOO SLOW
[10:58] <Chapayev__> shld really be on xbuntu
[10:58] <Chapayev__> amd k6 (500Mhz - 256 ram
[10:58] <Chapayev__> ??
[10:58] <Menasim1> do I reinstall it?
[10:58] <genii> Chapayev If xubuntu is even slow for you check out Damn Small Linux (DSL)
[10:58] <billy> chapayev__ :  xubuntu may help.  you can download and install the desktop.  `sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop`.
[10:59] <deadeye> http://up2.viploader.net/pic/src/viploader440699.jpg
[10:59] <Chapayev__> sorry - that was sortofa poll
[10:59] <deadeye> http://www.uploda.org/uporg742146.jpg
[10:59] <deadeye> http://www.uploda.org/uporg742144.jpg
[10:59] <deadeye> http://www.uploda.org/uporg742141.jpg
[10:59] <deadeye> http://www.uploda.org/uporg742140.jpg
[10:59] <deadeye> http://www.vipper.net/vip201696.jpg
[10:59] <billy> eternaljoy: have you opened it FTP *and* SMTP?
[10:59] <Tomcat_> !ops | deadeye
[10:59] <ubotu> deadeye: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[10:59] <deadeye> http://www.vipper.net/vip201697.jpg
[10:59] <eternaljoy> billy: its ktorrent port
[11:00] <eternaljoy> billy: i think its called UDP or something
[11:00] <billy> eternaljoy:  there's an option especially for torrent programs in the drop down menu.
[11:00] <eternaljoy> billy: what drop dwn menu?
[11:01] <bentob0x> we're using NFS between two machines here and everyday it's a new port we need to use when mounting the apache htdocs onto the second machine, anybody knows a workaround to avoid opening a new port in the firewall everyday?
[11:02] <Chapayev__> did i mention im offering to resolve cingular gprs issues
[11:02] <billy> eternaljoy: when you go to "Add Rule" for Allow Service.
[11:03] <Chapayev__> i actually got that one using mobile web to read
[11:03] <eternaljoy> billy: in ktorrent?
[11:03] <kbrooks> I want to propose a idea. Online HD space sharing.
[11:03] <Chapayev__> now im too rocked to raedf up on it'p
[11:03] <billy> eternaljoy:  your firewall is blocking ktorrent right?
[11:03] <Chapayev__> ill donate a few gigs kb
[11:03] <cb__> does anyone know how i find out my netbios name?
[11:03] <hesham> !help >> this document cannot be displayed untill you install the personal secuirty manager (pSM ) << how can i find PSM ???
[11:04] <eternaljoy> billy: no!  seems my router. because when I close firewall, it says its closed
[11:04] <billy> eternaljoy: oh, sorry.  I misunderstood.
[11:04] <eternaljoy> billy: I added to firewall anyway
[11:04] <detectiveinspekt> What OS does the US FBI use?
[11:04] <eternaljoy> billy: so when firewall is closed, its still closed the port.  but I port forwared it on my router.  im confused
[11:04] <eternaljoy> detectiveinspekt: MS Dos 3.1
[11:05] <hesham> joga thanks man .. amsn is now working ;) .. can you help me with another problem?
[11:05] <billy> eternaljoy: i've never worked with a router.  sorry i can't help you there.
[11:05] <Geoffrey2> ok, this is well beyond annoying.....I can't get any audio out of mplayer when playing videos online....anyone at all have a suggestion of what to look at
[11:05] <detectiveinspekt> eternaljoy, 4 real?
[11:05] <zardicn> hi
[11:06] <hesham> anybody avaliable for help ???
[11:06] <zardicn> how i can get this, i try to compile via drivers, but i see this error :
[11:06] <zardicn> /usr/src/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/
[11:06] <rewati> i am gettin this error in my synaptic: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils1_1.21-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[11:06] <rewati> can any body help
[11:07] <rewati> plz
[11:07] <Shelagh> hesham: what is your problem?
[11:07] <hesham> shelagh >> >> this document cannot be displayed untill you install the personal secuirty manager (pSM ) << how can i find PSM ???
[11:07] <bz0b> hey everyone
[11:07] <haze76> The Norwegian translation of Ubuntu is so badly done.
[11:07] <Aat56> redo it :>
[11:08] <billy> haze76: maybe you can help.
[11:08] <haze76> Yeah, I should
[11:08] <TeoBoev> anyone tried to set ifolder server on 6.10 server
[11:08] <Shelagh> hesham: do you know how to find synaptic?
[11:08] <billy> haze76: that's the spirit.  :)
[11:08] <haze76> Can someone send me a link to a starting point - a webpage related to localization?
[11:08] <bz0b> do many people here still use lts?
[11:08] <hesham> shelagh actually not.. i tried searchin it in the add/remove applications
[11:09] <Shelagh> hesham: Are you using gnome at the moment?
[11:09] <hesham> shelagh yeap
[11:09] <haze76> Install?r is a very unnatural thing to say, for example. It should be "Installer Ubuntu"
[11:10] <zardicn> how i can get this, i try to compile via drivers, but i see this error :
[11:10] <zardicn> /usr/src/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/
[11:10] <Factory> bz0b, I don't. I upgraded all of my machines to edgy.
[11:11] <Factory> zardicn: use www.pastebin.com
[11:11] <rewati> can any body help me i am gettin this error in my synaptic, i have updated and checked my sources.list and still not workin i am not able to install any software due to this error :E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils1_1.21-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[11:11] <bz0b> Factory, have you by any chance tried running beryl?
[11:11] <Shelagh> hesham: OK. Go to System menu, then (I'm working from memory here) system applications.
[11:11] <hesham> shelagh > system-adminstration>synaptic package manager ???
[11:11] <Shelagh> hesham: yes
[11:11] <Factory> bz0b, No I can't say I have. I'm  a bit of a minimalist ;)
[11:11] <bz0b> or is there anyone in here running beryl?
[11:12] <bz0b> on egdy
[11:12] <hesham> shelagh okay am there
[11:12] <billy> bz0b: I am.
[11:12] <Shelagh> hesham: Sorry, I'm on Xfce4 at the moment
[11:12] <rewati> can any body help me i am gettin this error in my synaptic, i have updated and checked my sources.list and still not workin i am not able to install any software due to this error :E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils1_1.21-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[11:12] <detectiveinspekt> Beryl sometimes crashes the whole computer
[11:12] <bz0b> billy, what kind of graphics card are you using?
[11:12] <billy> bz0b: I have an Intel integrated.
[11:12] <hesham> shelagh.. so?
[11:12] <Shelagh> hesham: open it. you'll need your password.
[11:12] <eternaljoy> thats why I wouldnt use Beryl
[11:12] <bz0b> detectiveinspekt, i have a ati radion 1600 pro, with xgl, and it crashes
[11:12] <bz0b> billy, any suggestions?
[11:13] <eternaljoy> i prefer stability and performance over lovely design :)
[11:13] <Factory> bz0b, Get an nvidia. That's my suggestion =)
[11:13] <bz0b> Factory, haha
[11:13] <billy> bz0b: did you use the howto on ubuntuforums?
[11:13] <rewati> factory ; can u help me i am gettin this error in my synaptic, i have updated and checked my sources.list and still not workin i am not able to install any software due to this error :E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils1_1.21-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[11:13] <eternaljoy> bz0b: yes, remove beryl. wait another 1 or 2 years before you try it again
[11:13] <bz0b> billy, no
[11:13] <Factory> bz0b, but seriously. atis have been known to cause trouble.
[11:13] <bz0b> eternaljoy, lol
[11:13] <eternaljoy> bz0b:  thats the best solution :)
[11:13] <bz0b> Factory, i would have used ati, i use to have a 6200, but then i sold it and bought the ati
[11:14] <rewati> eternaljoy can u help me i am gettin this error in my synaptic, i have updated and checked my sources.list and still not workin i am not able to install any software due to this error :E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils1_1.21-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[11:14] <bz0b> i mean nvidia*
[11:14] <Factory> rewati: My only suggestion would be to stop spamming the shannel.
[11:14] <Factory> bz0b that was a bad decision =(
[11:14] <bz0b> hehe
[11:14] <billy> bz0b:  do you have ATI or nVidia?
[11:14] <bz0b> ATI
[11:14] <billy> bz0b: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy#ATI
[11:14] <bz0b> and according to beryl, ati with xgl is the automatic installtion
[11:15] <zardicn> hi, some one know how i can resolve this : http://pastebin.ca/406329
[11:15] <zardicn> error with OpenChrome Via Driver,
[11:15] <mdkaneda55> the newest mepis beta, and sabayon linux both come w/ preconfigured beryl right on the live cd, prolly easiest to check it out on there. theres no real pratical use for all that fancyness, so i just use one of those live cds to impress people. =) hehe
[11:15] <eternaljoy> rewati: you using Edgy?
[11:16] <billy> zardicn: that's in Spanish. :)  try #ubuntu-es
[11:16] <Shelagh> hesham: I can't find personal security manager on my lists. Is the file something you found on the net?
[11:16] <billy> !es | zardicn
[11:16] <ubotu> zardicn: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:17] <Supaplex> anyone know off hand how to disable gdb's prompts to press enter to continue?  I'm searching for ideas in the info docs, but I'm not finding anything so far.
[11:17] <rewati> eternaljoy yes
[11:18] <rewati> eternal joy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11480/
[11:18] <eternaljoy> rewati: ask someone if they can give you their edgy sources.list perhaps
[11:18] <rewati> sorry
[11:18] <Geoffrey2> any possible problem with having both the ALSA and OSS mixers installed at the same time?
[11:18] <eternaljoy> rewati: im sorry, im not qualified to look at it
[11:18] <zardicn> thanks ubotu,billy
[11:19] <shinichizio> I've got a question about WINE. Does it work?
[11:19] <mr_grump5> i have xp and ubuntu on dual boot..now i can't boot into xp..my grub http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11479/ and my partition http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11481/
[11:19] <rewati> any body is using edgy
[11:19] <billy> shinichizio: for alot of programs, but not all.  there is a #wine room.
[11:19] <rewati> billy r u using edgy
[11:20] <billy> rewati: word.
[11:20] <shinichizio> billy: Yet again I'm in the wrong room. Thanks again though, Billy. You've proven invaluable. orz
[11:20] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: Not installed, but you're better off with aoss (alsa oss emulation)
[11:20] <rewati> billy i dont understand what you said
[11:21] <rewati> billy what is the meaning of word
[11:21] <Enselic`> I have Programmer Dvorak's .Xmodmap, bun now C-A-Backspace works, but not C-A-F[1-9]  (no svitch VT), anyone know why?
[11:21] <Factory> rewati: Word is gangsta slang for yeah.
[11:21] <eternaljoy> Factory: lol
[11:21] <billy> rewati: sorry.  "word" = "yes"
[11:21] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: Oss and Alsa don't mix. But Oss programs  can use aoss to play thru' the alsa system.
[11:21] <eternaljoy> billy: you a gang banger? :P
[11:21] <billy> shinichizio: it may be #winehq though.
[11:21] <rewati> billy can you give me your source list copy
[11:22] <rewati> factory thakyou
[11:22] <mr_grump5> billy:i have xp and ubuntu on dual boot..now i can't boot into xp..my grub http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11479/ and my partition http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11481/
[11:22] <billy> BRB with you rewati, mr_grump5
[11:23] <rewati> billy sory i cant get u again
[11:23] <Geoffrey2> sigh....I'm about ready to give up on this
[11:23] <mr_grump5> billy:am getting ntldr is missing when i choose to boot from xp
[11:23] <rewati> factory are u using edgy
[11:23] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: What is your problem?
[11:23] <bullgard4> After booting Ubuntu has loaded the kernel module ipw2200 but not the module acerhk. What is the reason to differntiate here?
[11:23] <eternaljoy> billy: wheee u from?
[11:23] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: I've had some experience with audio.
[11:24] <Geoffrey2> Shelagh, the specific problem is getting audio out of mplayer
[11:24] <fs-a> hi, does anyone know of a way for open office to break words into two pieces in small table cells using a dash between the two pieces?
[11:24] <eternaljoy> i added a port to my router and firewall and yet apparently the port is still closed. Anyone have any ideas about that?   Is there something else I need do to open it?
[11:24] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: mm, what have you done so far?
[11:25] <rewati> mr_grump5 r u using edgy
[11:25] <billy> rewati: my sources.list is really very basic.  i'll let you see if you want though. gimme a sec to pastebin it.
[11:25] <mr_grump5> rewati:fiesty
[11:25] <Geoffrey2> Shelagh, I can watch, oh, a .wmv on my computer and it all works....then I go to www.imdb.com, click on a trailer I want to watch...the Cingular ad is fine, but when the trailer itself starts playing, I get no sound at all
[11:25] <billy> mr_grump5: have you resized the Windows partition from within Ubuntu lately?
[11:26] <billy> eternaljoy: I'm from the USA.
[11:26] <rewati> mr_grump5 i am using edgy can i upgrade it to fiesty
[11:26] <Geoffrey2> doesn't matter if it's .wmv, Real, or quicktime....no sound
[11:26] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: So sound in general is fine, just the movie off the internet?
[11:26] <mr_grump5> billy:no man..i was trying to load only few kernals..i messed up the grub
[11:26] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: What format is the vid?
[11:27] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: could be a codec issue?
[11:27] <mr_grump5> rewati:u can
[11:27] <epl> eternaljoy: what exactly are you trying to do? if it is forwarding then make sure that /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is 1
[11:27] <rewati> mr_grump5 can u tell me from where i can learn to do that or if possible then u tell me plz
[11:28] <Geoffrey2> Shelagh, I've tried .wmv, Real Video, and Quicktime.....no sound on any of it
[11:28] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: Have you tried other players? Xine based? VLC?
[11:28] <mdkaneda55> mr_grump5: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/ <-- super grub disc might help u in booting ur windows partition
[11:28] <billy> mr_grump5: yeah, i see some deleted lines in your menu.lst.
[11:29] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: I've found that sometimes other players do the job better with different formats.
[11:29] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: 'though these days mostly they're all pretty good.
[11:29] <mr_grump5> billy:can you make those changes and pastebin to me?
[11:29] <billy> mr_grump5: yeah, and get that super grub disc, too.  SGD has autofixed my menu.lst before.
[11:30] <ph8> morning guys! I've had a problem with my install of gdm since upgrading for feisty which i've only just got the time to start investigating. Basically, I can login to gnome as-normal using the gnome-failsafe from the login screen (session sub-menu) but if I try to login normally (plain 'gnome' or 'run xclient startup scripts' options from said menu) gdm restarts and returns me to the login screen. Since failsafe just disables startup scripts, is ther
[11:30] <eternaljoy> epl: i added port forward to my router but the port is still closd. why?
[11:30] <mr_grump5> billy:ok
[11:30] <rewati> mr_grump5 can u tell me from where i can learn to do that or if possible then u tell me plz
[11:30] <Omeil> Anyone know python here?
[11:30] <billy> mr_grump5: first we're going to backup your menu.lst.  open a terminal.
[11:30] <epl> eternaljoy: how should I know? please give me more information if you want help
[11:30] <mr_grump5> billy:ye
[11:31] <Geoffrey2> Shelagh, well, since I'm lacking a better idea at present, I'll install VLC and see what happens
[11:31] <mr_grump5> rewat:ditribution update
[11:31] <billy> mr_grump5: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[11:31] <Shelagh> Geoffrey2: Another one to try is realplayer. it is available thru [just a sec] , mm looks like its disappeared from the repositories.
[11:32] <mr_grump5> billy:did that
[11:32] <billy> mr_grump5: cool.  gimme just a sec.
[11:33] <mdkaneda55> eternaljoy: not sure what ur goal is, but i hate my router, i always have probs... but if there's a way to set DMZ on your IP, that's the only thing that works most of the time for me.. hehe..
[11:33] <bullgard4> Geoffrey2: The DEB program package 'helix player' contains  a player.
[11:33] <eternaljoy> mdkaneda55: im trying to port forward port 45000
[11:33] <Geoffrey2> Firefox needs an easier way of temporarily enabling and disabling plugins
[11:33] <eternaljoy> mdasilva: ktorrent uses it
[11:34] <gary> I'm using ubuntu 6.10 and when I maximize a window it is a bit jerky, i.e. resizes it in steps.  I'm using an ATI Radeon x1300 graphics card.  Do you think this may have been caused as I am not using the correct drivers?
[11:35] <mdkaneda55> eternaljoy: well setting dmz will open all ports to the computer/ip of your choice on your network... most of the time port forwarding doesnt seem to work well for me on my linksys, but dmz seems to work good.... only prob is it's all or nothing
[11:35] <eternaljoy> mdkaneda55:  dmz?
[11:36] <mdkaneda55> should be a setting in your router
[11:36] <eternaljoy> no
[11:36] <mdkaneda55> what kind of router?
[11:36] <rewati> billy i am waiting for the sources.list
[11:36] <billy> mr_grump5: now that I look more closely, what I thought were deleted lines weren't deleted lines after all.
[11:36] <eternaljoy> mdkaneda55: siemens 4200
[11:36] <billy> rewati: oh sorry.  thought were werent' interested.  just a sec.
[11:37] <billy> mr_grump5: but the Microsoft entry doesn't look kosher to me, for some reason.
[11:37] <mr_grump5> billy:is Super Grub Disk of any help?
[11:38] <billy> Could someone look at mr_grump5's pastebin, especially at the very bottom to see if something's wrong with the XP entry?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11479/
[11:38] <billy> mr_grump5: it's autofixed my stuff before.  but I don't know about your problem.  it's worth a shot.  give us a sec and we may be able to find a solution.
[11:38] <mr_grump5> billy:ok
[11:38] <nospi> i just installed postfix, but how do i change the SMTP user and pass?
[11:39] <nospi> !postfix
[11:39] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[11:39] <mdkaneda55> eternaljoy: reading siemens manual, says u got dmz feature...
[11:39] <billy> !pastebin
[11:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:40] <eternaljoy> mdkaneda55: what does dmz do exactly?
[11:41] <mdkaneda55> opens up all ur ports, so ur router doesn't block anything
[11:41] <rewati> billy do u think editin sources.list will help as i have done that 10 times still its not working
[11:41] <mdkaneda55> only works for 1 computer on the network though
[11:41] <billy> rewati:  it sounds like a broken package.  here's my sources.list :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483/
[11:42] <nospi> eternaljoy, its a DeMilitarized Zone, and works as mdkaneda55 said.
[11:42] <gary> When I move a window around my computer, it is very jittery, i.e. moves in little stages.  Same as when I try and maximize a window.  I am using a DVi input from ATI radeon graphics card.  Any recommendations on how to resolve this issue
[11:42] <shinichizio> Hahaha oh wow. I've stumped THREE irc rooms now with my problem. ;_; -leaves precipitously-
[11:42] <rewati> billy but synaptic is not showing any broken package
[11:42] <eternaljoy> nospi: whats DeMilitarized Zone?
[11:42] <billy> rewati: i don't know, my friend.
[11:43] <eternaljoy> mdkaneda55: why would I open up all ports?
[11:43] <eimert> moi
[11:43] <billy> gary: try in #ubuntu-effects.  they're the experts.  :)
[11:43] <nospi> eternaljoy, it's used in wars and stuff, means its like free of fighting, there is a cease-fire in the DMZ. it opens all your ports for testing, if something doesnt work
[11:44] <eimert> hallo, weet hier iemand hoe je plugins kan installeren op ubuntu?
[11:44] <gary> thanks billy!
[11:44] <billy> right on gary.
[11:44] <eternaljoy> nospi: when I am on the port forward setting, i added UDP etc to 50000.  But a website says the port is closed.
[11:44] <billy> !gr
[11:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[11:44] <yomm> eimert ; probeer #ubuntu-nl
[11:44] <eternaljoy> nospi: http://www.whatsmyip.org/ports/
[11:44] <nospi> eternaljoy, maybe you need TCP
[11:45] <eternaljoy> nospi: its for ktorrent
[11:45] <mr_grump5> billy:any ideas?
[11:45] <mdkaneda55> sometimes opening a specific port doesn't work, as you're experiencing... if you set yourself up to not be protected at all by the router, and use a software firewall or none, you'll definatly get that dern port open, hehe
[11:45] <eternaljoy> nospi: I added port 5000 to ktorrent and port fowarded it in my router, but according to: http://www.whatsmyip.org/ports/  the port 50000 is closed
[11:45] <billy> eternaljoy: be careful about naming ports in open forums.
[11:45] <eternaljoy> nospi: can yo check your port and see if its open according to what website?
[11:45] <nospi> eternaljoy, ... are you sure you need to forward UDP? maybe it's TCP
[11:46] <Chapayev> btw is firewall on by default after live cd 6.06?
[11:46] <edgy> Hi, I downloaded feisty herd5 and installed it on my laptop. Now, I want to resize my / partition so I booted from that same herd5 CD and I got: BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! how come?
[11:46] <eternaljoy> billy: its not my proper port :)  i know
[11:46] <nospi> eternaljoy, it wont work for me, im on a different computer
[11:46] <eternaljoy> billy: im using 50000 for purposes here
[11:46] <billy> mr_grump5:  super grub disc not help any?
[11:46] <MasseR> edgy: #ubuntu+1
[11:46] <cafuego_> edgy: acpi sucks
[11:46] <eternaljoy> nospi: what TCP port does ktorrent use?
[11:46] <edgy> MasseR: I already did but it's more or less logic ;)
[11:46] <mr_grump5> billy :i burned cd iso..wht to do now?
[11:46] <billy> edgy:  do you have a gparted live cd?
[11:47] <cafuego_> edgy: it should recover from a soft lockup though
[11:47] <eternaljoy> billy: u want it?
[11:47] <nospi> eternaljoy, i dunno, i don't use it sorry
[11:47] <edgy> cafuego_: acpi? why not this problem came when I did the installation
[11:47] <eternaljoy> billy: I have the gparted live cd ISO
[11:47] <edgy> billy: no but I thought it may be included in the livecd, no?
[11:47] <cafuego_> edgy: it's a problem when acpi tries to do soemthing at the same time as something else and the cpu doesn't respond to it fast enough, it assumes it's locked up. Just let it recover and continue.
[11:47] <billy> mr_grump5: check the md5sum. if it's correct, burn the image to a CD.
[11:48] <billy> edgy:  herd5 livecd?
[11:48] <cafuego_> edgy: it'll be hard to replicate... and thus hard to fix.
[11:48] <edgy> cafuego_: I did rebooted 10 times now and still same problem, isn't it strange?
[11:48] <cafuego_> edgy: Though you could probably post the trace dump to launchpad, the kernel package.
[11:48] <cafuego_> edgy: Hmm, that *is* odd.
[11:48] <billy> eternaljoy: I have gparted live on disc.  i'm all good, over here.
[11:49] <mdkaneda55> eternaljoy: http://www.siemens.com/Daten/siecom/Australia/ICN/Internet/ICN_Unitwide/WORKAREA/au_ed_in/templatedata/English/file/binary/4x-UM_007-4035-001_1274276.pdf    here's ur manual if u need it, hehe. i gotta get some sleep. hope u get ur Ktorrent kickin'! =)
[11:49] <edgy> billy: feisty fawn cd
[11:49] <Chapayev> still wanna know how to config default session to 600x800?
[11:49] <eternaljoy> billy: ok :)
[11:49] <eternaljoy> mdkaneda55: cheers :)  look under the bed for monsters :)
[11:49] <mr_grump5> billy:done..what to do with sgd?
[11:49] <billy> mr_grump5: oh you burned it.  sorry.  now just reboot into it.  it's really easy to follow.
[11:50] <billy> mr_grump5:  I think there's a "fix MBR" option.  maybe not.  been a while.  just go through and look through the options.
[11:50] <matt____> is there a program so i can watch tv in edgy? something like that p2p tv veiwing thing?
[11:50] <mr_grump5> billy:got it
[11:50] <Geoffrey2> well, that did the trick...I installed VLC, removed the mplayer plugins, and the videos work fine now.....
[11:50] <Chapayev> no matter the res - mydesktop is 1600x1200 and it slides over...
[11:51] <mr_grump5> billy: the first ption will do right? http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/en/images/windows_option.png
[11:51] <billy> mr_grump5:  looks good to me, my man.  :-)
[11:52] <edgy> cafuego_: I managed to boot now after choosing safe mode and found qtparted but the resize option is not active!
[11:52] <Federico90> hi guys
[11:52] <mr_grump5> billy:hope it does screw my grub..will boot and get back to u..hopefully
[11:52] <Federico90> someone has the p5w dh deluxe motherboard?
[11:52] <billy> mr_grump5: the super grub disc, if anything, will fix your grub.  hey, have you made a backup of it yet?
[11:53] <Federico90> i need to know how he configured integrated wireless
[11:53] <amorphous_> anyone in here do any OCR? looking for tips on scanning settings to get a clearer read...
[11:53] <mr_grump5> billy:ue i have a backup.
[11:53] <mr_grump5> billy:i will reboot and see
[11:53] <billy> mr_grump5: ok good.  always a good policy to backup before you do anything.  hope everything goes well.  good luck!
[11:53] <Federico90> anyone?
[11:54] <mr_grump5> billy:ok man
[11:54] <billy> Federico90: I have a p5L.  similar, but not exactly, I guess.
[11:54] <Federico90> billy: i can't configure my wireless
[11:54] <billy> !wireless
[11:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:55] <Federico90> billy: he doesn't find the ap
[11:55] <Federico90> billy: i've tried all guides
[11:55] <JonRob> hi, is anyone in here knowledgable about livecd customisations?!
[11:55] <billy> Federico90: well, you can check that ubotu link above.  I frankly have ZERO experience with wireless, except for my mouse, that is.  I understand Feisty will have much better wireless support, but I don't recommend upgrading until the 19th.
[11:56] <Federico90> i know, but i can't remain until the feysty a wireless key that disconnect every 5 minutes
[11:57] <Federico90> anyway i'll try to find something on this link
[11:57] <Federico90> tnx bye
[11:57] <billy> Federico90: wish I could help more.  Just no experience.
[11:58] <Federico90> if i've problem with the guide too i'll retry here
[11:58] <Federico90> billy: tnx
[11:58] <billy> Federico90: the most I can do is help you understand the guide.  I've never walked through it myself, so it'll be the blind leading the blind.  :(((
[11:58] <billy> Federico90: later on in the day there are super good folks in here.
[11:59] <Chapayev> ive been busy with wifi and bt and gprs..
[11:59] <Chapayev> under 6.06
[11:59] <billy> Federico90: there are great folks here now, but seems like there are "official" folks here after sunrise.
[11:59] <Chapayev> got all workin
[11:59] <billy> Chapayev: congrats!
[11:59] <jhaig> billy: The sun rose here about 5 hours ago.  :-)
[12:00] <Chapayev> but i cant get a damn desktop set to the right size ?!~
[12:00] <billy> jhaig: still darkness here.  maybe an hour or so.
[12:01] <billy> Chapayev: you can always `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`, but you'll need to know the name of your video driver and such.
[12:01] <Chapayev> got lucky on that one off the install..
[12:01] <Chapayev> so i havent touched the video] 
[12:01] <gary> What is dpkg-architecture?  I'm trying to install a ati driver program, but it says, dpkg-architecture: not found
[12:02] <Chapayev> maybe some of the 222 updates are worth it ..
[12:02] <billy> gary: is that the full error?
[12:02] <Chapayev> ive done almost 0 patching
[12:02] <billy> Chapayev: definitely.  hit "Go" and go get some coffee, my brotha.
[12:03] <Chapayev> ive done almost 3 days of chinese
[12:03] <Chapayev> its way beyong coffee
[12:03] <billy> Chapayev: you definitely need some strong coffee then, with some prune juice to boot.  :D
[12:03] <gary> billy: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 176: dpkg-architecture: not found
[12:03] <JonRob> i'm trying to customize the contents of the home directory on the ubuntu live cd...i've moved the files i want into /etc/skel and remade the image but when i boot i get an error about job control turned off
[12:03] <billy> gary:  that's more like it.  gimme a sec to check it out.
[12:04] <gary> billy: thanks :-) I'm a bit lost!
[12:05] <Chapayev> JR u know thats just an askin for it type proj - u unemplyed ?
[12:06] <JonRob> Chapayev: was that referring to me?! and if yes, I am unemployed :s
[12:06] <Chapayev> oh wow its a little quiet..
[12:06] <imhavingamoment> beef?
[12:06] <Chapayev> so back to my dersktop - come on in theres plenty of room
[12:07] <billy> gary:  make sure you're up to date.  `sudo apt-get update` and `sudo apt-get upgrade`.
[12:07] <JonRob> and what do you mean an "asking for it type project"?!
[12:07] <Chapayev> any pointers for speeding up 6.06 pon old hardware>
[12:07] <gary> billy: I need 203MB of updates :D
[12:07] <billy> Chapayev: try xubuntu-desktop.
[12:07] <Chapayev> JR - ur quickly finding out what i mean
[12:07] <billy> gary:  yeah.  do that first.
[12:07] <gary> billy: I've got a 64bit processor, but couldn't get the installation to work properly, so I've had to revert to the 32 bit version :-(
[12:07] <JonRob> Chapayev: difficult!?
[12:08] <Chapayev> id love to but dont wanna d/l the iso via BT
[12:08] <JonRob> Chapayev: just install the xubuntu-desktop package
[12:09] <Chapayev> ohh - i can get the xbuntu desk alone ?12
[12:09] <Chapayev> duuh
[12:09] <JonRob> yes
[12:09] <Chapayev> im all ears - and nose
[12:09] <JonRob> you can get any of the ubuntu derivatives alone - kubuntu-desktop
[12:09] <JonRob> etc
[12:09] <JonRob> can't think of the others
[12:09] <tombow> whats the point of having different distros if they are only an apt-get away from each other?
[12:09] <gary> billy: bit of a silly question.  If I have a 64 bit processor, but a 32 bit OS, should I be downloading the driver for 64bit or 32bit?
[12:10] <JonRob> tombow: some people wouldn't know about it?
[12:10] <easytiger> gary: if its ubuntu it doesn't matter too much
[12:10] <Chapayev> so what do i app get
[12:10] <JonRob> i'm taking the silence on my question regarding the live cd as a "nobody knows"
[12:10] <jhaig> gary: If the OS is 32 bit, you should use the 32 bit driver.
[12:10] <easytiger> sorry.. just erad that. yea 32
[12:10] <Chapayev> crickets JR
[12:11] <JonRob> Chapayev: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:11] <billy> gary:  32 bit.  My processor is 64 bit capable, but I use 32 bit because that's what's more supported.
[12:11] <easytiger> anyone installed this? or know where i can get the installer? -> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/03/21/linux-mce-looks-hot/
[12:11] <JonRob> anyone any advice on where i might find some people who'd know!?
[12:11] <billy> JonRob: modifying a LiveCD?
[12:12] <Chapayev> how do i shoehorn the xbun in ??
[12:12] <JonRob> billy: yes
[12:12] <gary> cool, thanks billy
[12:12] <Chapayev> i mean .files to edit
[12:12] <billy> JonRob: I've seen a link in the ubuntu site for taht.  gimme a sec to find it.
[12:12] <billy> gary: it work?
[12:12] <JonRob> billy: i think i prob used the link as guide originally
[12:13] <gary> billy: still downloading everything
[12:13] <JonRob> it doesn't give great details though
[12:13] <JonRob> i think i might be exceeding the size or something
[12:13] <JonRob> 'cos i'm trying to put about 1.4gb into the home directory
[12:13] <JonRob> maybe a bit crazy for a livecd?!
[12:13] <billy> JonRob: there's this.  http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[12:13] <JonRob> (lol, i'm putting it on a dvd though!)
[12:14] <billy> JonRob: and this.  http://www.livedistro.org/resources/documentation/howtos/custom-ubuntu-linux-live-cd?PHPSESSID=4eb41656de644c54fa15248521be54b0
[12:14] <JonRob> billy: thanks, i'll take a look
[12:15] <assasukasse> hi all, ubuntu tells me my reiserfs fs is not clean, how do i make the fsck?
[12:16] <Appleide> is there a way to create a new "superuser account" through the "recovery mode"? someone refer to a website for me to look at...
[12:16] <billy> gary:  just give it some time.  good time to feed yourself, or take a break from staring at the computer, or something.
[12:16] <Chapayev> is it me or are the ? getting more trippy..
[12:16] <billy> gary:  watch some cartoons.  www.adultswim.com/adultswimfix
[12:17] <billy> Appleide:  a "new" superuser account?  forgotten your password?
[12:17] <Chapayev> billy will the xbuntu swap itself in automatically after trhe app-get?
[12:17] <gary> billy: Yea, I'm in work though - this is a new work computer
[12:18] <ferronica> Is there any good AUDIO CD ripper
[12:18] <Appleide> billy: I changed the resolution from the GUI menu dialog. now when I startup and enter pass word, it switches to the resolution and hangs.
[12:18] <Chapayev> apple - my thing exactly
[12:18] <JonRob> ferronica: banshee is a great all round media tool
[12:18] <JonRob> rips music brilliantly
[12:18] <billy> Chapayev: no, it won't automatically swap.  just logout.  when you login there's a little "options" box in the lower left hand corner.  Select "Sessions" and then "XFCE".
[12:18] <Zewey> ferronica: do you need VBR?
[12:18] <vmware_prob> hi @ all, i need help in vmware pls, player doesnt find cdrom device
[12:18] <vmware_prob> anybode can help`
[12:19] <ferronica> Zewey: which one give me good sound quality
[12:19] <ferronica> Zewey: mp3???
[12:19] <dv_> anyone has an idea why the refresh rate is fixed at 76 hz on my tft?
[12:19] <billy> Appleide:  ctrl-shift-f1 will get you to a command prompt.  then `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`.  there may be a simpler solution, but I'm not sure.
[12:20] <dv_> things look best when its 60 hz, but ubuntu refuses to let me change it
[12:20] <Zewey> ferronica: VBR means the bitrate varies, so you get smaller size. CBR is constant
[12:20] <ferronica> Zewey: in which format to rip audio CD
[12:20] <dv_> so, how to force ubuntu to use 60 hz as vertical refresh rate?
[12:20] <ikonia_> dv_ set it in your xorg.conf
[12:20] <ferronica> Zewey: no problem for space
[12:20] <JonRob> cheers for the help guys, i'll try elsewhere
[12:20] <vmware_prob> nobody can helop?
[12:21] <ikonia_> vmware_prob whats up
[12:21] <morphir> how can I get hold of grub.conf from the live cd?
[12:21] <Zewey> ferronica: do you need mp3? otherwise i'll agree with JonRob, banshee looks easy to use :)
[12:21] <ferronica> Zewey: i need just good quality
[12:21] <ikonia_> morphir what do you mean get hold of it
[12:21] <billy> hey ikonia_ !
[12:21] <dv_> ikonia, I already have VertRefresh     43-60
[12:21] <dv_> ikonia_
[12:21] <vmware_prob> ikonia:  if i start vmware, i get error
[12:21] <morphir> ikonia, I need to edit it it
[12:21] <ferronica> Zewey: which one do u use???
[12:21] <ferronica> Zewey: i will try that one
[12:21] <ikonia_> morphir why do you need to edit it on a livecd - its a read only distro
[12:21] <billy> mr_grump5: how'd it go?
[12:21] <ferronica> Zewey: :)
[12:21] <ikonia_> vmware_prob whats the error
[12:22] <Zewey> ferronica: hold on, i can't remember what's the name of the software i use... :x
[12:22] <morphir> ikonia, there is a boot problem on my hd
[12:22] <vmware_prob> ikonia: Unable to open host CD-ROM drive "/dev/cdrom": No such file or directory.
[12:22] <vmware_prob> Failed to connect virtual device ide1:0.
[12:22] <mr_grump5> billy:no luck man.. i think the problem is windows boot sector
[12:22] <ikonia_> morphir ok ?
[12:22] <ikonia_> vmware_prob does that file exist ?
[12:22] <jlk> Has anyone else has problems with the registration form for ubuntuforums.org?
[12:22] <vmware_prob> no doensnt
[12:22] <billy> mr_grump5: did you install windows first or second onto your hard drive?
[12:22] <Zewey> ferronica: okay, i use Goobox.
[12:22] <vmware_prob> cdrom is in /media/cdrom
[12:22] <ikonia_> vmware_prob thats not what I asked
[12:22] <mr_grump5> billy:when i tried to boot  it says "ntldr is mssing"
[12:23] <Zewey> ferronica: if you don't care about space at all, choose Flac as your format
[12:23] <mr_grump5> billy:first i had windows
[12:23] <vmware_prob> ikonia:  u asked if that file exist
[12:23] <ferronica> Zewey: Flac give me good sound quality
[12:23] <Pici> jlk: I havent, try asking in #ubuntuforums
[12:23] <vmware_prob> that file doesnt exist
[12:23] <ikonia_> vmware_prob the problem is that your vmware host has not mapped a virtual device to dev file system
[12:24] <vmware_prob> ikonia:  aha and how to fix that?
[12:24] <morphir> ikonia, do you know how I can locate the grub.conf located on my HD from the live cd command line?
[12:24] <Zewey> ferronica: yeah, it's lossless, which means you won't lose any bits in audio compared to mp3 for example
[12:24] <Appleide> billy: I typed that, entered my pass word and got "Login Incorrect" what does this mean? I am sure my password was right
[12:24] <Chapayev> the formats are crazy - what if i wanna full format slow - and eventually to install in win machine
[12:24] <ikonia_> morphir you need to mount the file system with /boot on it - then just cd into it
[12:24] <ikonia_> vmware_prob ask ina vmware support group - they will have better experience
[12:24] <ferronica> Zewey: Goobox give me flac
[12:24] <vmware_prob> thx ikonia
[12:24] <ferronica> Zewey: and good also
[12:25] <Zewey> ferronica: oh, you're already using it?
[12:25] <ferronica> Zewey: no no
[12:25] <ferronica> Zewey: i have download
[12:25] <Zewey> ferronica: i see. :)
[12:25] <billy> Appleide: sometimes the X server keyboard setting is different than the CLI setting, I've found.  The same thing has happened to me.  There *has* to be an easier way.  Restate your problem, there are some more experiene Ubuntu'ers in the room now.
[12:25] <ferronica> Zewey: right now i have sound juicer
[12:25] <ferronica> Zewey: recommend be good one
[12:26] <PecisDarbs> which ftp client in Ubuntu would support ftp over ssl (aka ftps)? which would you suggest?
[12:26] <morphir> ikonia, mount: can't fin /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:26] <Chapayev> apples priob is mine (at kleast symptoms)
[12:26] <ikonia_> morphir so?
[12:26] <Appleide> billy: I installed Ubuntu, I logged in. I pressed "System-Preference-Screen Resolution" Changed to 640,480
[12:26] <Zewey> ferronica: i haven't tried it before, so can't say
[12:26] <billy> mr_grump5:  did you, at any time, resize the Windows partition, even when just installing Ubuntu?
[12:26] <ikonia_> morphir what command are you using ?
[12:26] <Appleide> the screen went blank and reloaded to 1024,800. so I did it again
[12:27] <morphir> mount /dev/sda1
[12:27] <mr_grump5> billy:no man
[12:27] <ikonia_> morphir ok - thats wrong.
[12:27] <Zewey> ferronica: if you'd like to just try everything, and decide which one fits your needs best. Some people prefer minimal software, some prefer full features.
[12:27] <morphir> ikonia, ah
[12:27] <ikonia_> morphir "man mount" you need a target on where its going to be mounted
[12:27] <nosse> I just installed some windows program using wine, how can I run it?
[12:27] <Chapayev> yeah Apple preach on - it happens when u go down
[12:27] <ikonia_> nosse join #wine-hq for wine support or read the wine FAQ on the ubuntu wiki
[12:27] <Appleide> and then it still didn't change, so I restarted. but couldn't log in. it change to 640,480 and hangs.
[12:28] <nosse> ikonia_: thanks
[12:28] <Appleide> I installed Ubuntu, I logged in. I pressed "System-Preference-Screen Resolution" Changed to 640,480. the screen went blank and reloaded to 1024,800. so I did it again. and then it still didn't change, so I restarted. but couldn't log in. it change to 640,480 and hangs.
[12:28] <ferronica> Zewey: as i saw in add?remove application Banshee is Play and Organize your music
[12:28] <ferronica> Zewey: not a ripper
[12:28] <ferronica> Zewey: hey is there any media monkey
[12:29] <assasukasse> i need to run fsck on my / and /home i am running reiserfs, how can i do it
[12:29] <mr_grump5> billy:if boot into xp recovery console and do fixmbr..will it spoil ubuntu>
[12:29] <billy> Chapayev: do you have any experience with the problem that Appleide is having?
[12:29] <Zewey> ferronica: not yet, i think. the media monkey devs were working on porting it i hear
[12:29] <ferronica> Zewey: Its good in windows i use medi monkey
[12:29] <ikonia_> assasukasse boot from a livecd and use fsck
[12:29] <Pici> assasukasse: You'd need to boot into recovery mode.  Choose that from the grub boot menu, or use the LiveCd
[12:29] <assasukasse> ikonia_: no other way?
[12:29] <ferronica> Zewey: similar to that in ubuntu
[12:29] <ikonia_> assasukasse or recovery mode as pici suggested
[12:29] <Zewey> ferronia: http://gnomejournal.org/article/30/the-banshee-music-player-an-introduction
[12:29] <billy> mr_grump5:  it'll mess up the grub.  but I think that the super grub disc will fix it, just reinstall grub, I think.  May want to research that though.  Never had to do that myself.
[12:29] <assasukasse> ikonia_: then what is the command i should give
[12:30] <Chapayev> ive been able to at least stay on lower res with your shortcut combo - but the desk is bigger than the screen
[12:30] <ikonia_> assasukasse man fsck - you should know if your bold enough to change the file system to resier
[12:30] <morphir> ikonia, could you write me a standard example please?
[12:30] <ikonia_> morphir for gods sake - I've told you the missing bit of the command and I've told you how to see an example and list of flags with the command "man mount"
[12:31] <morphir> ok...sorry
[12:31] <ferronica> Zewey: can we use terminal to rip CD
[12:31] <Appleide> billy: I manage to get my pass word working, but it says , after "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", "-e" and "-r" are conflicting actions.
[12:31] <Chapayev>                           oh sh*t i thought only the answering-folk could catch attitude                         `
[12:31] <kbrooks> Chapayev, dont swear
[12:31] <Pici> !ohmy
[12:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:32] <Zewey> ferronica: yes. i can't think of any applications though... hold on
[12:32] <kbrooks> sh*t is still swearing
[12:32] <billy> Appleide: are you absolutely sure you spelled it right.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:32] <Chapayev> kb - sry
[12:32] <kbrooks> Chapayev, and call me kbrooks, not kb
[12:32] <Chapayev> fair enough kbrooks...sir
[12:32] <Zewey> !jack > ferronica
[12:32] <ferronica> Zewey: I use to play Video and Audio using VLC all in one :)
[12:33] <ikonia_> Chapayev drop the attitude
[12:33] <gary> billy: I get that same error - I've upgraded the system
[12:33] <ferronica> Zewey: what????
[12:33] <Appleide> bill: yes. spelt correctly
[12:33] <Chapayev> mums the word -
[12:33] <eternaljoy> how can I tell my gateway address?
[12:33] <gary> billy: I could just try installing a driver for an "unknown" system
[12:33] <kbrooks> ikonia, what attitude us she having?
[12:33] <ikonia_> eternaljoy route or netstat
[12:33] <mr_grump5> billy:will do fixmbr from recovery and reinstall grub from sgd?/what do u say?
[12:33] <ikonia_> eternaljoy or use the network config gui
[12:33] <Zewey> ferronica: oops. maybe the command didn't work :P
[12:33] <billy> gary:  after all them updates, a good reboot may be in order.  I doubt it, but it's worth a shot before we proceed.
[12:33] <ikonia_> kbrooks ".....sir"
[12:33] <ikonia_> kbrooks you only asked to be called by your correct name
[12:34] <Chapayev> gosh i guess things dont always translate in txt
[12:34] <Zewey> ferronica: try 'jack'.
[12:34] <Chapayev> Im sitting here for 6 hrs i
[12:34] <kbrooks> ikonia_, ok
[12:34] <eternaljoy> ikonia: network config gui?
[12:34] <gary> billy: no probls
[12:34] <gary> billy: no probs
[12:34] <ikonia_> eternaljoy yes, under system --> administration
[12:34] <billy> mr_grump5:  it *may* work.  may just create more work for you.  I hate windows.
[12:34] <IdleOne> Chapayev, you are borderline trolling. reason kbrooks wants you to use his entuire nick is because his clients highlights when someone says his nick. makes it easier for people to follow whats going on
[12:34] <Zewey> ferronica: i'm just using vlc for video, i like sonata for my mp3's :p
[12:34] <nospi> how do i run an MX server?
[12:34] <nospi> i don't have a domain name
[12:35] <ferronica> Zewey: Why???
[12:35] <Zewey> nospi: just use ZoneEdit
[12:35] <ikonia_> nospi what do you mean, how do you host an MX DNS record, or how do you run a mail server that an MX record points to
[12:35] <eternaljoy> ikonia: netstat doesnt show gateway
[12:35] <Zewey> nospi: http://www.zoneedit.com
[12:35] <mr_grump5> billy:same here man..i need to use itunes...thats why
[12:35] <gary> billy: Just about to reboot, btw the file is: ati-driver-installer-8.34.8-x86.x86_64.run
[12:35] <ikonia_> eternaljoy nestatn -rn would do "man netstat"
[12:35] <ferronica> Zewey: I think i have to go for Goobox
[12:35] <Zewey> ferronica: what do you mean why? :p
[12:35] <kbrooks> IdleOne, somehow i wonder when Chapayev will drop it
[12:35] <ferronica> Zewey: From to download
[12:35] <billy> mr_grump5: all this for itunes?  dude.  there are better alternatives.  Have you tried amarok?
[12:35] <Zewey> ferronica: good choice
[12:36] <nospi> ikonia, i'm running postfix, and following the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto guide. it says you need an mx server
[12:36] <Chapayev> dropped
[12:36] <nospi> Zewey, thanks
[12:36] <ferronica> Zewey: i will download Goobox
[12:36] <Appleide> so... can I create new "super user account
[12:36] <ferronica> Zewey: :)
[12:36] <ikonia_> nospi you need a dns server to host an MX record
[12:36] <Appleide> 'from command line?
[12:36] <ferronica> Zewey: how to download
[12:36] <kbrooks> Appleide, no. use the existing one.
[12:36] <nospi> ikonia, ok, i'll host one
[12:36] <kbrooks> Appleide, and its better not to.
[12:36] <billy> gary:  x86_64 ?  Why are you trying to install the 64 bit version?
[12:36] <Zewey> ferronica: if it's not on Add/Remove, use 'sudo aptitude install goobox'
[12:36] <ikonia_> nospi do you have an internet facing DNS server ? and is the domain name pointed at it
[12:36] <ferronica> Zewey: I am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[12:36] <Zewey> !goobox dapper
[12:37] <ubotu> goobox: CD player and ripper for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.91-1build1 (dapper), package size 240 kB, installed size 1236 kB
[12:37] <kbrooks> Appleide, why do you want to use the super user account from ubuntu?
[12:37] <Appleide> kbrooks... what to do to reset factory settings? from command line? I can't log in from long in screen
[12:37] <nospi> ikonia, i don't have a domain name. i'm just hosting my webpage off my computer
[12:37] <ferronica> Zewey: yes it is not in add/remove
[12:37] <mr_grump5> billy:in itunes we can increase the volume+custom equalizer for each song...any alternatives?
[12:37] <Appleide> log in screen **
[12:37] <nospi> ikonia, i have my ISP's DNS server
[12:37] <kbrooks> Appleide, it depends
[12:37] <ferronica> Zewey: But it showing me in synaptic
[12:37] <ikonia_> nospi if you don't have a domain - how do you expect to use an mx record
[12:37] <eternaljoy> ikonia: do you know much aboutr port forwarding?
[12:37] <Zewey> ferronica: yep, you can use Synaptic to install it
[12:37] <nospi> ikonia, that's sort of what i was asking. can it be done without one
[12:37] <kbrooks> Appleide, er, i don't know how to..
[12:37] <billy> mr_grump5: have you tried to run it with Wine?
[12:37] <Appleide> kbrooks: i couldn't log in after attempting to change resolution and restarting
[12:37] <nospi> ikonia, but i suppose it can't?
[12:37] <ikonia_> nospi can what be done ?
[12:37] <ikonia_> eternaljoy whats up
[12:37] <gary> billy: Well I went to the ATI site, and that's what it directed me to, even though I did choose the 32bit version: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[12:38] <nospi> ikonia, use an mx record
[12:38] <ferronica> Zewey: downloding from synaptic and terminal are same thing????
[12:38] <nospi> ikonia, nevermind, i can use sendmail for what i need to do
[12:38] <mr_grump5> billy:good idea..wil do that
[12:38] <ikonia_> nospi if you don't have a domain, where can the mx record point ???
[12:38] <Zewey> ferronica: not exactly. there are some differences in how all of them work
[12:38] <nospi> ikonia, i understand now. i don't know much about mx server or dns really.
[12:38] <nospi> ikonia, thanks :)
[12:38] <eternaljoy> ikonia: im running ktorrent and added port 50000 to it, I then addded that port to my router and firewall. Yet according to: whatsmyip.org. that port is closed. Any ideas?
[12:38] <ferronica> Zewey: if i install it from terminal then is there any problem
[12:39] <gary> billy: just rebooting
[12:39] <gary> brb
[12:39] <billy> k
[12:39] <ikonia_> eternaljoy you've not setup the port forwarding on your router properly or your firewalling it
[12:39] <Zewey> ferronica: until you're experienced enough yet, just use anything that suits you
[12:39] <Zewey> ferronica: no, there shouldn't be a problem
[12:39] <ikonia_> eternaljoy maybe your ISP is firewalling it as it doesn't like torrent users
[12:39] <Zewey> ferronica: make sure you use 'aptitude', it'll probably be easier for you.
[12:40] <eternaljoy> ikonia: at times when using ktorrent, the file downloads at 55KB/s and then 5KB/s
[12:40] <eternaljoy> ikonia: is it slow due to port forward error?
[12:40] <ferronica> Zewey:   sudo apt-get install Goobox
[12:40] <ferronica> Zewey: like this
[12:40] <ikonia_> eternaljoy well, if it is downloading it is forwarding,could be slow due to portforwarding / ip resolution issues
[12:40] <eternaljoy> ikonia: any solutions?
[12:40] <kbrooks> ferronica, No, like this.
[12:41] <kbrooks> ferronica, sudo aptitude install goobox
[12:41] <eternaljoy> ikonia: but when I removed the port forwarfing from router, the ktorrent download still worked
[12:41] <ikonia_> eternaljoy debug it, its hard as this isn't an ubuntu problem this is a problem with your network/rotuer/isp
[12:41] <eternaljoy> ikonia: ok np
[12:41] <morphir> ikonia, see http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/18361
[12:41] <Zewey> ferronica: yes, use aptitude. it'll make sure that package dependencies are managed properly
[12:41] <Appleide> can you set resolution from command line?
[12:41] <ikonia_> eternaljoy because outgoing port forwarding will be default
[12:41] <eternaljoy> ikonia: not outgoing, i meant downloading
[12:42] <assasukasse> ikonia_: thanks now it works no problem
[12:42] <assasukasse> i had to umount
[12:42] <assasukasse> and run fsck -A
[12:42] <ferronica> Zewey: but i used above command to install other application
[12:42] <eternaljoy> ikonia: even with port forwarding off, ktorrent at tomes still dl at 50KB/s.  hows that possible?
[12:42] <ferronica> Zewey: but this time it didnt worked and showed me error
[12:42] <ikonia_> morphir either your using the wrong file system or thats the wrong partition
[12:42] <Zewey> ferronica: which one showed an error? aptitude?
[12:42] <ikonia_> eternaljoy because your only forwarding out going information, your not actually"port forwarding"
[12:42] <ferronica> Zewey: no
[12:43] <ferronica> Zewey: what i gave
[12:43] <ferronica> Zewey:  sudo apt-get install Goobox
[12:43] <billy> mr_grump5: check out this thread.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109936
[12:43] <mr_grump5> billy:how to uninstall o0lder kernals?
[12:43] <Zewey> ferronica: it's 'goobox'. no caps. ;)
[12:43] <ferronica> Zewey: Oh
[12:43] <billy> mr_grump5: i dunno.  just sick of seeing them when you boot up?
[12:44] <ferronica> Zewey: LOL
[12:44] <_nano_> Hi, I am not able to play m3u files from gnump3d on my rhythmbox .. could anyone help me?
[12:44] <_nano_> They play fine on totem
[12:44] <mr_grump5> billy:yepp i have some 5 kernals!1
[12:44] <ferronica> Zewey: where is the application icon
[12:44] <morphir> ikonia, gparted on the live cd says it its /dev/sda1 and ext3
[12:44] <Zewey> ferronica: you might want to read http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[12:44] <ferronica> Zewey: goobox is installed
[12:44] <Zewey> ferronica: it will be under sound and video
[12:44] <billy> mr_grump5: there's a really easy line to edit in menu.lst.  Something like howmany=all is how it is default.  change it to howmany=1 or 2 or whatever you like.
[12:45] <edgy> Hi, When I install a software while booting from the liveCD, where is it installed? in the RAM?
[12:45] <Pici> edgy: Yes. In RAM.
[12:45] <Omeil> Anyone know Python here?
[12:46] <ferronica> Zewey: Ok got, what is that link for?????
[12:46] <edgy> Pici: and if it's more than the RAM size, would use the HD?
[12:46] <gary> billy: back
[12:46] <Zewey> ferronica: it explains the differences between apt-get and aptitude
[12:46] <Pici> edgy: No, not a LiveCD. It would just fail to install.
[12:46] <morphir> so please tell me, is it even possible to mount a hd while running the live cd?
[12:46] <ferronica> Zewey: Ok
[12:46] <gary> billy: btw, that file I downloaded is for 32bit AND 64bit
[12:46] <gary> billy: oh, still get the same error
[12:47] <billy> gary:  same error with 32 bit, as well?
[12:47] <edgy> Pici: but it's now having the whole ubuntu in my RAM? my RAM is only 512M, how come?
[12:47] <billy> gary:  hmm....
[12:47] <gary> billy: well, the file: ati-driver-installer-8.34.8-x86.x86_64.run is for 32bit and 64bit
[12:47] <ferronica> Zewey: whenever i insert Audio CD Sound juicer opens which i dont want, now i wanna make Goobox to open by default, is it possible
[12:47] <gary> hmm, just some more error message here billy
[12:48] <mr_grump5> billy:i found grubed from frums..it is awsome to use
[12:48] <gary> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 176: dpkg-architecture: not found *AND* Error: unsupported architecture:
[12:48] <Pici> edgy: Applications that are already installed on the CD are just run from the CD. If you choose to install something new, it gets completely put into RAM.
[12:48] <Zewey> ferronica: i think it's in Preferences -> Removable drives and media
[12:48] <morphir> ikonia, have you any idea?
[12:49] <Zewey> ferronica: look under 'Multimedia', change 'serpentine' to 'goobox'
[12:49] <ferronica> Zewey: which menu
[12:50] <edgy> Pici: but I am sure the software I installed is more than 512 and it didn't complain!
[12:50] <doseryder> I made several attempts to chmod sda1 which is a ntfs-3g mount but it failed to change (no error msgs but nothnig changed)(
[12:50] <doseryder> is just the way it is?
[12:50] <Zewey> ferronica: 'System' on your panel, then 'Preferences', 'Removable drives and media'
[12:50] <doseryder> is it just the way it is?
[12:50] <Pici> edgy: I'm not sure whats going on then.  All I know is that it isnt touching your harddrive.
[12:51] <techie__> good morning all.
[12:51] <billy> gary:  you're trying to install the open source radeon drivers, right?
[12:51] <gary> billy: yep
[12:51] <morphir> ikonia, thanks for your help anyway
[12:51] <ferronica> Zewey: Ok got in multimedia
[12:52] <techie__> Where do I see my Alacarte Menu? It seems invisible off the Application drop window!
[12:52] <ferronica> Zewey: will goobox play .oog format
[12:52] <ferronica> Zewey: sorry .ogg
[12:52] <techie__> Or how do I make my Alacarte Menu "visible" from Applications?
[12:52] <billy> gary:  stupid question.  are you sure that the ones you already have aren't the open source ones?
[12:52] <Zewey> ferronica: goobox only rips and plays CDs doesn't it? you'll need a separate audio player :p
[12:53] <gary> billy: well, this is a freshly installed ubuntu distro.  I'm not too sure to be honest
[12:53] <edgy> Pici: but when I do df -h I see unionfs 856M .... / from where did it bring those 856M?
[12:53] <techie__> Also, how do I adjust the mouse. It feels sort of "nervous" when I move it!!!
[12:53] <ferronica> Zewey: ok i command option what i type
[12:53] <ferronica> Zewey: sound-juicer -d %d
[12:53] <gary> I have an X di splay, so obviously have some graphical drivers installed.  However, as I said, the refresh rate is not that great, also the windows flicker when moved
[12:53] <billy> gary:  they should be the open source ones then.  just continue with the howto.  should be all good.
[12:54] <ferronica> Zewey: goobox -d %d  or CD Player -d %d
[12:54] <Zewey> ferronica: i think just 'goobox' will be fine
[12:54] <gary> billy: Sorry, could you point me in the direction of the correct howto?
[12:54] <ferronica> Zewey: no need to browse
[12:54] <billy> gary:  try reconfiguring the xserver.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <Pici> edgy: unionfs filesystems are made up of both the RAM, and the LiveCD.  So some of that space exists on the CD, and some in your physical memory.
[12:54] <rewati> i am gettin this error in apt-get : files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[12:54] <techie__> Can anybody help with Alacarte menu or adjusting my mouse?
[12:55] <gary> billy: oh, right, thanks
[12:55] <Zewey> ferronica: if i'm not wrong goobox will load the cd automatically
[12:55] <edgy> Pici: aha!
[12:55] <ikonia_> sorry I was on the phone
[12:55] <billy> gary:  for some reason I thought you were trying to install Beryl.  my bad.
[12:55] <rewati> edgy i am gettin this error in apt-get : files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[12:55] <Pici> edgy: I cheated though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unionfs
[12:55] <ferronica> Zewey: if i want to find by browse then in which directory i have to go
[12:56] <gary> billy: :-) forgiven.
[12:56] <Zewey> ferronica: what do you want to browse?
[12:56] <techie__> Zewey.... how do I adjust the speed of my mouse so it does not move so fast?
[12:56] <techie__> Zewey.... or less jerky?
[12:56] <ferronica> Zewey: Just want to know where all application installed when i install it
[12:57] <billy> gary: more than likely the xserver was using a generic driver. now that you're upgraded going through the dpkg-reconfigure should auto-detect your stuff.
[12:57] <xkalib3r> Hey there, quick question...Does anyone perhaps know the status of the creative x-fi drivers for linux?
[12:57] <Zewey> techie__: System, Preferences, Mouse, i think
[12:57] <techie__> Zewey, thanks I will try that
[12:57] <rewati> zewy i am gettin this error in apt-get : files list file for package `libsgutils1' is missing final newline
[12:58] <billy> ferronica: usually in /usr/bin
[12:59] <rambo3> rewati, apt-get clean
[12:59] <nano-> When I enable desktop-effects I need to hold ctrl to use left mouse button (latest feisty), is there any easy way to fix this?
[01:00] <billy> nano-: the feisty folks will be able to help you better.  join #ubuntu+1
[01:00] <nano-> ah
[01:00] <billy> nano-: also try #ubuntu-effects
[01:01] <_nano_> is there any good streaming video on demand server for ubuntu?
[01:02] <rewati> rambo3 done its not workin
[01:02] <ferronica> Zewey: Goobox not showing me the artist and all
[01:03] <rambo3> rewati, apt-get -f install
[01:03] <rambo3> you need sudo too
[01:04] <mr_grump5> billy:amarok is da best..
[01:05] <naranha> what's the feisty fawn channel again?
[01:05] <billy> mr_grump5: if only I could get it to play CDs.
[01:05] <billy> naranha: ubuntu+1
[01:05] <naranha> thanks
[01:05] <billy> no prob
[01:05] <mr_grump5> billy:it doesn't play cd's??
[01:06] <billy> mr_grump5: they *say* it does, but it no_workie for_billy.
[01:06] <ferronica> Zewey: Goobox not showing me the artist and all
[01:06] <spheard> hey yall
[01:06] <mr_grump5> billy:which one r u using?
[01:06] <rewati> rambo geting the same error
[01:06] <spheard> when I do a CLI command that produces loads of data
[01:06] <ferronica> Zewey: But sound juicer showing me all artist, year etc.
[01:06] <spheard> how do I view one page at a time?
[01:06] <ferronica> Zewey: Are you here :(
[01:06] <saturn_> How can I make a firewall + DHCP server on Ubuntu 6.06/6.10 ?
[01:07] <Pici> spheard: pipe it into less
[01:07] <spheard> command || less
[01:07] <spheard> like this
[01:07] <Pici> spheard: one pipe, command | less
[01:07] <spheard> sweet
[01:07] <spheard> Thanks pici
[01:07] <billy> mr_grump5: don't know anymore.  I uninstalled that bad boy.
[01:07] <ferronica> how to register my ID to PM someone
[01:07] <rambo3> saturn_, there are tonds of howtos on debian adminstrattion page
[01:08] <Pici> !register | ferronica
[01:08] <ubotu> ferronica: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:08] <rewati>  rambo geting the same error
[01:08] <rambo3> s/tonds/tons/
[01:09] <rewati> rambo3 geting the same error
[01:09] <ferronica> Pici; which in which option
[01:09] <mr_grump5> billy:atleast it works for me!!
[01:09] <rambo3> rewati, i dont know then , what have you done to get there ?
[01:09] <ferronica> Pici: user registration????
[01:09] <billy> mr_grump5: i don't use much mp3 stuff. don't have an iPod (yet).
[01:09] <Pici> ferronica: for freenode, so that you can pm someone
[01:09] <tester> billy: Just in windows now.  I think I broke my display.  When I put my ubuntu disc in to try to boot to the live version to recover it takes over 8 minutes just to load it all and show the screen
[01:09] <atomiku>  <--- where can I get libCgGL?
[01:09] <atomiku> oops
[01:10] <tester> billy: It did this when i was installing too
[01:10] <tester> It was very very slow to start
[01:10] <Igec_33> Hi all
[01:10] <atomiku> /hda7/PlaneShift/psc: error while loading shared libraries: libCgGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <-- where can I get libCgGL?
[01:10] <rambo3> !info libcggl
[01:10] <ubotu> Package libcggl does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:10] <Gary> billy: sorry, wrong username
[01:10] <mr_grump5> billy:too bad apple don't have itunes  for linux
[01:10] <atomiku> ah
[01:10] <atomiku> hmm
[01:10] <ferronica> Pici: ok, which option i click to register
[01:10] <atomiku> I need it to play planescape
[01:10] <billy> tester: that's a while for the LiveCD.  may depend on
[01:10] <billy> oh
[01:10] <doseryder> I made several attempts to chmod sda1 which is a ntfs-3g mount but it failed to do so (I did it as a root too)
[01:10] <Gary> anyone here know what program for windows allows you to browse/transfer files from a linux partition?
[01:10] <Gary> I've used it before, and it works really well
[01:11] <billy> mr_grump5:  yeah.  the apple folks dont' seem very open source friendly.
[01:11] <doseryder> currently sda1 is 777 and I want to chmod it to 755
[01:11] <Pici> ferronica: "What is the recommended way to set up my IRC nickname?"
[01:11] <Gary> billy: so I need to put my old Xorg configuration back, from the backup file it made
[01:11] <Pici> ferronica: Then read the instructions
[01:11] <rambo3> atomiku, apt-cache search lib cg gl
[01:11] <rewati> rambo3 i have installed some software through automatix can it be the cause
[01:11] <Gary> billy: not sure why it broke though.  May have been the refresh rates or something
[01:11] <doseryder> can someone please help me on how to go about it?
[01:11] <ferronica> Pici: ok
[01:11] <atomiku> rambo3: k
[01:12] <rambo3> !automatix | rewati
[01:12] <ubotu> rewati: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:12] <atomiku> rambo3: ah ha! it seems to have returned some very good results, thanks
[01:12] <billy> Gary:  look in /etc/X11.  there'll be a backup with a date and time on it.  rename that one to xorg.conf.
[01:12] <atomiku> libcgicc1 <--- that, perhaps?
[01:12] <nelly> Gary: explore2fs works well
[01:13] <Gary> nelly: that's the one I needed!
[01:13] <Gary> thanks
[01:13] <rewati> WorksForMe | gfhgj
[01:13] <nelly> no probs dude
[01:13] <rambo3> atomiku,  no it should be something like libgl
[01:14] <atomiku> rambo3: oh
[01:14] <Gary> hmm
[01:14] <atomiku> Nothing there then
[01:14] <Gary> It's a shame I can't write to a linux partition from windows ...
[01:14] <rambo3> atomiku, its part of video library ?
[01:14] <atomiku> havent a clue
[01:15] <atomiku> what about libglib2.0-0 ?
[01:15] <doseryder> I made several attempts to chmod sda1 which is a ntfs-3g mount but it failed to do so (I did it as a root too)
[01:15] <atomiku> libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version.
[01:15] <doseryder> currently sda1 is 777 and I want to chmod it to 755
[01:15] <rambo3> atomiku, -dev
[01:16] <Gary> Does anyone know if it is possible to write to a linux partition from windows?
[01:16] <atomiku> Nope
[01:16] <doseryder> its not responding to the chmod i performed :<
[01:16] <atomiku> I installed it
[01:16] <atomiku> still no luck
[01:16] <mr_grump5> anyone best alternative for itunes for ubuntu??
[01:16] <billy> Gary:  it's possible.
[01:16] <billy> Gary: you need some sort of special application though.
[01:16] <Gary> billy: easily possible?
[01:16] <hoelk> how to find out your internal ip
[01:16] <Gary> I'll have a look about again on google
[01:16] <Aat56> Gary http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:16] <mr_grump5> billy:wine itunes doesn't even recognise my ipod!!
[01:16] <billy> Gary: never tried it myself.  It's Windows.  Can't be that hard.
[01:17] <Aat56> it's possible, just need a driver to access those filesystems
[01:17] <billy> mr_grump5:  yeah, that may be asking a bit much.  you can always use gtkpod to interact with the ipod though.
[01:17] <atomiku> Ahh
[01:17] <Gary> thanks Aat56
[01:17] <atomiku> atomiku@atomiku:~$ locate libCgGL.so
[01:18] <atomiku> /hda7/PlaneShift/libs/libCgGL.so
[01:18] <billy> Gary: me, personally.  I don't *wan't* some windows program being able to write over onto my linux partition, but that's just me.
[01:18] <igec> hi all
[01:18] <ZeroSystem> i just installed ubuntu, and made it install grub at hd1, but after i reboted when i want to boot it gives me "Error 17: Cannot mount Selected partition"
[01:18] <ZeroSystem> is it becuase grub is on hd1 not hd0
[01:19] <rewati> rambo3 is there anyother way to remove the problem
[01:19] <rambo3> atomiku, :p
[01:19] <atomiku> Oh
[01:19] <atomiku> its working now
[01:19] <atomiku> I was running psc, not psclient
[01:19] <rambo3> rewati, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12737.html
[01:19] <atomiku> i guess I shoulda RTRM
[01:19] <billy> Hi igec.  What's up?
[01:19] <atomiku> *RTFM
[01:20] <igec> Need help.Every time im starting gEdit,i get this message:    (gedit:8097): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_string_append: assertion `val != NULL' failed
[01:20] <igec> sys:1: Warning: g_string_append: assertion `val != NULL' failed
[01:20] <Gary> billy: It's just because I want to rename my backup file, without having to wait >15 mins to access the live cd and recover the file from there
[01:20] <c1ru> hey hi all
[01:20] <c1ru> :P
[01:20] <billy> Gary: understandable.  just me.
[01:20] <alamakota> oloelo
[01:20] <c1ru> i have one error when i try to add gdesklets on sesions
[01:20] <billy> igec:  opening gedit within a terminal?
[01:20] <alamakota> hay
[01:20] <igec> yep
[01:21] <c1ru> i try it with gDesklets and gdesklets but nothing
[01:21] <alamakota> where i am?
[01:21] <rewati> rambo3 i have downloaded and installed many softwares now if i will reinstall ubuntu then they will be gone can u tell me any way to protect them from loosing it as i dont want to waste so much time again in downloading and reinstalling them
[01:21] <Gary> Right, well I'm going to reboot to live cd.  See you in abuot 21 hours billy :-) j/k
[01:21] <alamakota> what is ubuntu??
[01:21] <billy> alamakota: the Milky Way.
[01:21] <alamakota> it's enybody else??
[01:22] <Pici> alamakota: Its a Linux distribution
[01:22] <Pici> !ubuntu | alamakota
[01:22] <ubotu> alamakota: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[01:22] <Kooka> cya all
[01:22] <alamakota> thanks
[01:22] <rambo3> rewati, you shouldent
[01:22] <rewati> where i can get fiesty to download from
[01:22] <ZeroSystem> anyone know why grub cant boot ubuntu from hd1 ?
[01:22] <rambo3> reinstall ,
[01:22] <ferronica> Zewey: Goobox not showing me the artist and all
[01:22] <igec> Can anybody help wit that issue?:)
[01:23] <billy> igec:  try using gksudo before opening gedit.  not sudo gedit, but gksudo.  that *may* help.  i dunno.
[01:23] <alamakota> i use knoppix
[01:23] <rewati> rambo3 then what sud i do
[01:23] <alamakota> it's someone use knopix??
[01:23] <alamakota> ok
[01:23] <Pici> alamakota: Probably not, since this is the Ubuntu support channel
[01:23] <Dynalon> hi eb, i had to change from grub to lilo and now the root fs is mounted read-only on boot. I fixed this by adding append="rw" to lilo, then it boots fine but it cant be fscked any more (cos its mounted rw), what can i do?
[01:23] <billy> alamakota: i've used knoppix before, but this is the ubuntu room, a different linux distribution.  try the knoppix room if you need help.
[01:24] <ferronica>  Goobox not showing me the artist name and all
[01:24] <ferronica>  Goobox not showing me the artist name and all :(
[01:24] <c1ru> anyone use gDesklets?
[01:24] <alamakota> i have ubuntu in my home but i don't insteled yet
[01:24] <billy> alamakota: that's good.  Is there something about it that we can help you with?
[01:25] <Appleide> I've given up trying to fix my Ubuntu.... reinstalling the whole thing. it'd be quicker this way.
[01:25] <billy> ferronica: check your preferences.  may be that you don't have "retrieve info" enabled, or something along those lines.  I don't use Goobox, but that may be a solution.
[01:25] <alamakota> it's someone from polish??
[01:25] <Pici> !pl | alamakota
[01:25] <ubotu> alamakota: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:26] <doseryder> billy I need help change moding a ntfs mount (sda1).  By default the sda1 777 and I want to chmod it to 755 but its not responding to my chmod performed
[01:26] <billy> Appleide: goodness.  there really must be a simpler solution.
[01:27] <Appleide> yeah... I've spent a hour trying to find that simpler solution to a freshly installed Ubuntu. I am now going to spend 20 minutes reinstalling ;)
[01:27] <billy> doseryder:  interesting, what you're trying to perform.  i don't have any experience with that though, and I'd really hate to hose your system by giving you bad commands that I find from some google search.  Sorry that I can't help.
[01:27] <igec> Billy i try your way but now it say: (gedit:9277): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:27] <igec> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:27] <rewati> rambo3 then what sud i do???
[01:27] <billy> Appleide:  just do it!  be sure to upgrade when you're done!
[01:27] <Appleide> upgrade...? what do you mean? the OS?
[01:28] <doseryder> billy: its okie, thx for responding tho
[01:28] <ferronica> billy: there is no option to retrive info
[01:28] <billy> Appleide: no.  just the packages.  should do it automatically.  sorry bout that.
[01:28] <billy> igec:  and gedit doesn't come up, either way you try?
[01:28] <billy> doseryder: it's cool.  wish I could help.  I'm a fairly new user though.
[01:29] <jmitchj> hey guys, i am running ubuntu from an external usb drive, i've added a second external usb drive to my computer, how do i find out what device it is to mount it?
[01:29] <billy> as a matter of fact, I'm going through tutorials right now.  http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l10/lesson10b.html
[01:30] <igec> Yes it came up.I just don t like those messages all around.
[01:30] <billy> igec:  I get the same kind of stuff.  don't worry about it.  if it *really* bothers you, use the nano program instead.  that's what I prefer.
[01:31] <doseryder> billy: cool, and you r kind enough to participate in helping out others.  I'm impressed with the courtesy of ppl in here, sometimes i see ppl (similar faces) answering questions alll day
[01:31] <igec> thanx billy
[01:31] <rewati> billy hi
[01:31] <JoseLuiz> bom dia
[01:31] <ferronica> billy: Any one here using Goobox to rip audio Cd
[01:31] <billy> doseryder: yeah.  there are good folks in this forum.
[01:31] <rewati> billy i think my apt-get is screwed now i will have to reinstall ubuntu
[01:31] <billy> ferronica: i don't use Goobox.  sorry.  :(
[01:32] <billy> rewati:  just relax.  don't do that.
[01:32] <ferronica> billy: ok
[01:32] <ferronica> Any one here using Goobox to rip audio Cd
[01:32] <billy> ferronica: from what I've read, most Ubuntu'ers use a variety of programs to do their multimedia stuff, not just one.
[01:32] <rewati> billy can u tell me a way so that i can back up my software installtions  so that i dont have to download then again
[01:33] <spheard> rewati: what does it say to you?
[01:33] <rewati> billy ok
[01:33] <ferronica> billy: Any other good ripper
[01:33] <billy> rewati:  you could make a recursive backup of your home directory.
[01:33] <ferronica> billy: In your knowledge
[01:33] <ferronica> billy: what u use???
[01:33] <Zewey> rewati: did you fix that file list thingy?
[01:33] <rewati>  billy wat sud i do is there any helping forum for that
[01:33] <billy> ferronica: Sound Juicer is pretty good for me.
[01:34] <rewati> zewey ya i did but its not workin
[01:34] <ferronica> billy: but there is no option for Mp3
[01:34] <billy> !backup | rewati
[01:34] <ubotu> rewati: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:34] <Zewey> rewati: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12737
[01:34] <Zewey> ferronica: i think you're missing the mp3 codec
[01:34] <Zewey> !restrictedformats
[01:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:34] <morpheus74> Hello.  How do I tell what kernel is installed on my system?
[01:34] <ferronica> Zewey: who me
[01:34] <Zewey> ferronica: follow the first link
[01:34] <billy> ferronica: grip maybe?
[01:34] <ferronica> Zewey: you mean i have download CODECS
[01:35] <_atomic> hello
[01:35] <taigeR_> sup
[01:35] <imhavingamoment> Hey guys
[01:35] <cyberfr0g> sup
[01:35] <AnAnt> can I use /var/cache/apt/archives/ of one machine as a repo for another machine ?
[01:35] <AnAnt> can I use /var/cache/apt/archives/ of one machine as a repository for another machine ?
[01:35] <imhavingamoment> Can I borrow someone for a bit of n00b advice? :)
[01:35] <spheard> ferronica: K3b rips I think
[01:35] <Zewey> ferronica: oh wait, no, i'm wrong. can you play mp3s?
[01:35] <billy> imhavingamoment: what's up?
[01:35] <taigeR_> unsure
[01:35] <cyberfr0g> fun
[01:35] <_atomic> that's a secret
[01:35] <doseryder> billy: i see u reading up some linux/unix i/o redirections. hehee
[01:35] <spheard> Imhavingamonet: yar
[01:35] <billy> doseryder: yeah.  i'm slowly making it through this whole thing.
[01:36] <ferronica> Zewey: using vlc i can play otherwise no
[01:36] <imhavingamoment> Anybody that can offer assistance on installing OpenGL support for an nvidia 5200, help!
[01:36] <ferronica> Zewey: i have downloded goobox
[01:36] <spheard> imhavingamoment: what have you done so far?
[01:37] <Zewey> ferronica: can you follow the guides in this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-99259e1841e1e1262f4f71e0c72d5a51b3fb69e9
[01:37] <igec> is there any other text editor ,except gedit and nano?
[01:37] <imhavingamoment> I've installed the nvidia drivers through Synaptic and nvidia-glx
[01:37] <doseryder> billy: it takes time and experience.  Have fun
[01:37] <spheard> igec: try vi :-)
[01:37] <imhavingamoment> Apart from that I've broken the system several times and had a few migraines :P
[01:37] <billy> igec:  there's vi, vim, joe.  those are more intensive than nano though.  nano is good.  you should learn it.
[01:37] <jmitchj> exit
[01:37] <spheard> moment: yeah, know that one
[01:37] <doseryder> igec: the infamous vi/vim
[01:37] <ferronica> Zewey: but Goobox not showing me artist name and all
[01:38] <imhavingamoment> spheard: Any suggestions?
[01:38] <spheard> imhavingamoment:probably
[01:38] <spheard> imhavingamoment:2 secs
[01:38] <billy> doseryder: time and experience to read a tutorial ?  :-)
[01:38] <imhavingamoment> spheard: Cool, thanks
[01:38] <Zewey> ferronica: i think Goobox just couldn't recognize the cd using freedb
[01:38] <AnAnt> can I use /var/cache/apt/archives/ of one machine as a repository for another machine ?
[01:39] <Zewey> ferronica: is that an original audio CD?
[01:39] <spheard> imhavingamoment: dapper or edgy
[01:39] <ferronica> Zewey: yes, but sound juicer showing me all
[01:39] <imhavingamoment> Edgy
[01:39] <imhavingamoment> spheard: Edgy
[01:39] <Zewey> AnAnt: totally, but probably not recommended... :p
[01:40] <Zewey> ferronica: hmm... not sure. I don't use Sound Juicer :)
[01:40] <SlimG> Where is the wine folder in the gnome-menu located within the filesystem? In KDE the location is $HOME/.kde/share/applnk/Wine
[01:40] <morpheus74> I installed 6.10 last night on my e-machine, and I'm having some issues with the graphics (nVidia card).  I found some online help for installing the the nVidia driver from the restricted repository, but I need to know what kernel I'm running.  How can I find the kernel info from the com line?
[01:40] <doseryder> billy: I'm not really a tutorial person b/c, i'm a lazy reader but I am picking it up quite fast b/c there are many course related works which require me to learn it
[01:40] <ferronica> Zewey: but why goobox not showing me
[01:40] <billy> doseryder: i learn computers by breaking them.
[01:41] <doseryder> billy: speaking of which i still have to write a shell in C (its due 35 hours as a matter of fact)
[01:41] <Zewey> ferronica: usually they try to figure out the CD title and artist using a service called 'FreeDB'
[01:41] <billy> doseryder: familiar with BASIC code?
[01:41] <ZeroSystem> billy do you know why i cant boot up ubuntu installled with grub on the second hardesk ?
[01:41] <Zewey> ferronica: could just be goobox couldn't manage to figure out what cd was it, but sound juicer was smart enough to
[01:41] <billy> ZeroSystem:  because it isnt' enabled in your BIOS?
[01:42] <SlimG> Anyone know where the wine folder in the gnome-menu is located within the filesystem? In KDE the location is $HOME/.kde/share/applnk/Wine
[01:42] <billy> Slim:  home/yourname/.wine
[01:42] <doseryder> billy: that's pretty old school, I dont remember much of it.  The closest thing I did to basic was writing batch programs/files in DOS when i was a kid
[01:42] <spheard> imhavingamoment: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[01:42] <ZeroSystem> grub works but when i want to boot it says cant mount partition it doesnt even boot up the os on the first harddesk
[01:42] <imhavingamoment> spheard: Cool, thanks
[01:43] <spheard> imhavingamoment:msg me if if it all goes tits up
[01:43] <imhavingamoment> spheard: Just tried something - gonna restart
[01:43] <varka> hi
[01:43] <imhavingamoment> spheard: I will ;)
[01:43] <imhavingamoment> spheard: Thanks for your help - back in a bit
[01:43] <billy> ZeroSystem:  I don't know.  maybe cuz you're using the slave to boot the master.  I don't know though.
[01:43] <SlimG> billy: that's the location of the wine system, not the *.desktop files
[01:43] <Zewey> ferronica: does playing mp3s work for you?
[01:43] <igec> thanx   to all,but it is still annoying when start gedit.Ihope anyone solve that.
[01:43] <billy> doseryder:  it's mad oldschool.  how similar is it to modern languages?
[01:43] <billy> SlimG: oh sorry.
[01:43] <AnAnt> Zewey: totally = ?
[01:44] <ZeroSystem> there both masters but not working ....
[01:44] <Crescendo_> Suggestion for Ubuntu Developers: When there are updates to the system, it needs to be super easy to click and find out more about the updates (changelog)
[01:44] <billy> ZeroSystem:  both masters?  now that, i've never encountered before.  maybe try using a super grub disc to install grub on the first.
[01:44] <IdleOne> Crescendo, #ubuntu-dev for suggestions to devs
[01:45] <Zewey> AnAnt: yes. but please don't take it as i'm telling you you should do it, just it's *remotely possible* that it won't break. :p
[01:45] <varka> wile Intel i965-series be fully supported in feisty?
[01:45] <Gary> billy: still having some problems configuring xorg. I'm back in linux now, but I've broken the file twice now, and I don't know why.  I am selecting ATI as the driver, 1280x1024 as the resolution and I'm not really sure where I am going wrong
[01:45] <varka> -e +l
[01:45] <ZeroSystem> does grub have to be on the first because i want it on the second hard desk
[01:45] <Pici> varka: try asking in #ubuntu+1 they should have an answer
[01:46] <varka> Pici: thx
[01:47] <igec> anyone know why scrrensaver doesnt work proper?It starts one time,but the second time it doesn t.
[01:47] <igec> screen get blank
[01:47] <doseryder> billy: Not much resemblance.  Honestly, I just installed ubuntu a lil less than 2 months, I haven't really booted into Windows since cause theres really no need for me to.  As far as programming, It makes even more sense for me to do em in linux.
[01:48] <szymon> chuj
[01:48] <billy> doseryder: right on.  just wondering cuz I learned BASIC like years ago, when I was a little kid.  thinking of learning C or something.  just curious.
[01:49] <igec> :(
[01:50] <keving> Hay, i have a problem. I've been using 5.04 for a while and my LAN card has been fine. I just upgraded to 6.10 and the LAN card shows up in device manager. but doesnt show up in the networking config box
[01:50] <keving> any idea?
[01:51] <Gary> billy: DO you think changing the driver would break Xorg?  It is on "vesa" at the minute, but I was choosing ATI as that's the manufacturer or my graphics card
[01:51] <IdleOne> !wifi  keving
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi  keving - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <IdleOne> !wifi  | keving
[01:51] <ubotu> keving: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:52] <rambo3> keving, chech dmesg
[01:52] <keving> dmesg?
[01:52] <billy> Gary:  it could.  Goodness knows I've had to reconfigure xorg like dozens of times.  Vesa is a generic.  If I were you, I'd just experiment with ones that like my driver.  Just finding which driver you need online.
[01:52] <rambo3> keving, i am guessing there  is problem with driver
[01:52] <doseryder> billy: I'm not so sure if you want to make C your first programming language.  It obviously makes a lot of sense to learn C b/c its meant to do system level shit and building software tools but you might have trouble with it
[01:52] <Pici> Gary: Are you using the proprietary driver or the open source driver?
[01:52] <Matthai> hi, how can I install LUKS in Edgy?
[01:53] <rambo3> keving, does it show up in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:53] <Gary> Pici: well, I'm not sure to be honest with you. This is a brand new ubuntu installation, so ti just came with it
[01:53] <billy> doseryder:  i'm a masochist.  don't worry.  :-)
[01:53] <ferronica> Zewey: Mp3 is okay to play
[01:53] <Matthai> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390642
[01:53] <Gary> I looked online but I couldn't get the program to run because there was some errors with it
[01:54] <zcutlip> /who zc
[01:54] <Pici> Gary: What card do you have?
[01:54] <ferronica> Zewey: Goo box Mp3 option is also DIM
[01:54] <Gary> ATI Radeon X1300
[01:54] <IdleOne> Matthai, what is LUKS?
[01:54] <Pici> Gary: Okay, I have the x1400 running here.  I'm using the fglrx (non-open source) driver.
[01:54] <Matthai> linux unified key setup - crypto disks
[01:54] <Gary> I think I installed that actually
[01:54] <andrE\> Salve
[01:55] <Zewey> ferronica: try doing "sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-lame"
[01:55] <Pici> Gary: Okay, then you'd need to set the Driver line on your xorg to "fglrx" not "ati"
[01:55] <Sir_HaL> I have windows at work, and I use ssh (cygwin) to connect to my home windows computer, then tightVnc to forward the display.  the performance is great.  When I go to my ubuntu box, I have to be logged in for the vnc ("Remote Desktop") to work, and it's slow.  I want to be able to see the login screen and login as other people graphically, with decent performance.  any suggestions?
[01:55] <Sir_HaL> sorry for the novel
[01:55] <IdleOne> !info cryptsetup | Matthai
[01:55] <ferronica> Zewey: i think this is for gstreamer
[01:55] <ubotu> matthai: cryptsetup: configures encrypted block devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.0.3-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 244 kB, installed size 704 kB
[01:55] <Zewey> ferronica: goobox uses it for mp3, i believe :)
[01:56] <ferronica> Zewey: gstreamer is codec
[01:56] <Matthai> OK, but how to setup it during install, I want root partition encrypted
[01:56] <Gary> Pici: I just re-configured the Xorg, I'll restart to see if it has worked.  I chose fglrx
[01:56] <ferronica> Zewey: like K lite mega codec pack
[01:57] <IdleOne> Matthai, sorry i dont know
[01:57] <ferronica> Zewey: ok done
[01:57] <Pici> Gary: Good luck
[01:57] <IdleOne> Matthai, cant you encrypt the partition after install?
[01:57] <fallingdutch> Hi all, i am having problems with a Realtek ALC861: snd-hda-intel is loading but i hear no sound at all tried model 3stack, 3stack-dig, 6stack-dig and auto, but no luck. does anyone have any ideas?
[01:57] <Zewey> ferronica: well? did it work? :p
[01:58] <ferronica> Zewey: ok now Mp3 work
[01:58] <ferronica> Zewey: but artist name????? :(
[01:59] <gary_> Pici: That worked great, thanks for your help
[01:59] <billy> fallingdutch:  right click the volume manager in the applet, choose "Preferences" and make sure it's set to HDA Intel (ALSA mixer).
[01:59] <laska> hello
[01:59] <gary_> billy: thanks to you to dude, no doubt I'll be back in a little while moaning about something else not working
[01:59] <fallingdutch> billy, did
[01:59] <gary_> ... just need to install fluxbox now
[01:59] <Pici> gary_: :) Glad to hear it
[01:59] <billy> gary_:  no prob, my brotha.  take care.
[01:59] <ferronica> Zewey: but it not showing me artist names : (
[01:59] <laska> how to mount ntfs partition with all permisions?
[01:59] <Pici> !ntfs | laska
[02:00] <ubotu> laska: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:00] <billy> fallingdutch: still nothing?
[02:00] <gary_> :D
[02:00] <fallingdutch> billy, still nothing
[02:00] <javaJake> Hello everyone, quick question.
[02:00] <Pici> javaJake: quick answer.
[02:00] <ferronica> Zewey: but it not showing me artist names : (
[02:00] <nelly> ferronica: Do srtist names show up in Sound Juicer?
[02:00] <javaJake> Pici, that's all I want. :)
[02:00] <nelly> artist*
[02:00] <billy> fallingdutch: installed the latest ALSA drivers?
[02:00] <fallingdutch> billy yes
[02:01] <akshay> can any one tell me how to operate c programming in ubuntu
[02:01] <ferronica> Zewey: sound juicer showing me all
[02:01] <akshay> pls
[02:01] <keving> eth0 shoes up in the interface thingy
[02:01] <Zewey> ferronica: is it an original audio cd?
[02:01] <ferronica> Zewey: by default it showing me
[02:01] <ferronica> Zewey: YES
[02:01] <dnissley> akshay, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:01] <nelly> ferronica: why not use sound juicer then??
[02:01] <doseryder> akshay: what do you mean operate?
[02:01] <javaJake> Did anyone get the linux-restricted-modules-common update (to version 2.6.17.7-11.2) and live to tell about it? :)
[02:01] <billy> fallingdutch: try running `alsaconf` in a panel.  you may get an error.  tell me what it does.
[02:01] <ferronica> Zewey: should i reinstall goobox
[02:01] <akshay> k
[02:01] <javaJake> I'm so worried about upgrades these days...
[02:01] <akshay> i'll try
[02:01] <javaJake> xorg dying, nvidia drivers crashing... ugh...
[02:02] <ferronica> nelly: there is no mp3 option in sound juicer
[02:02] <javaJake> It's enough to make one come here and ask first.
[02:02] <javaJake> :P
[02:02] <nelly> ferronica: you can make it so there is
[02:02] <IdleOne> javaJake, dont you love it!? :P
[02:02] <javaJake> IdleOne, betcha I do
[02:02] <javaJake> :D
[02:02] <IdleOne> hehe
[02:02] <ferronica> nelly: which option????
[02:02] <billy> fallingdutch: did I say "in a panel"?  silly me.  I meant "in a terminal".  duh.
[02:03] <doseryder> akshay: ?
[02:03] <nelly> ferronica: open sound juicer > edit > preferences
[02:03] <javaJake> Simple yes/no, if you guys don't mind: did anyone get the linux-restricted-modules-common update (to version 2.6.17.7-11.2) and live to tell about it? :P
[02:03] <laska> how to contact with polish channel ?
[02:03] <Pici> laska: /join #ubuntu-pl
[02:03] <IdleOne> javaJake, Im sure many people did
[02:03] <ferronica> nelly: then
[02:03] <nelly> ferronica: then click on edit profiles > new > name it MP3
[02:04] <ferronica> nelly: Ok
[02:04] <nelly> for gstreamer pipeline ... paste 'audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux'
[02:04] <ferronica> nelly: done now
[02:04] <nelly> put file extension as mp3
[02:04] <nelly> and tick the active? box
[02:05] <nelly> then click ok and close down sound juicer
[02:05] <akshay> doseryder: then wht to do
[02:05] <fallingdutch> billy where should alsaconf be?
[02:05] <ferronica> nelly: audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux
[02:06] <dnissley> akshay, gcc is the compiler, do you have a c file already made?
[02:06] <billy> fallingdutch: type that in a terminal and run it.  it may run, it may not, depending on the alsa-utils you have installed.
[02:06] <akshay> no
[02:06] <fallingdutch> billy, "command not found"
[02:07] <Federico90> hi billy
[02:07] <dnissley> akshay, you need to make one and then type "gcc filename.c -o executablename"
[02:07] <nelly> ferronica: yes paste that line in the box for gstreamer pipeline when setting up the profile for MP3
[02:07] <akshay> k
[02:07] <billy> fallingdutch: that's what I figured.  not sure how to proceed.  go to System > Preferences > Sound and make sure HDA Intel is selected for everything.
[02:07] <laska> no one helps on my language channel ;/
[02:07] <Federico90> billy: i've tried the web page, but it explains the same steps
[02:08] <akshay> i hv emacs 21 (XII)
[02:08] <Federico90> why i can't connect the wireless?
[02:08] <doseryder> I usually do gcc -Wall -o output source.c
[02:08] <akshay> it has any use
[02:08] <mmartinez> Is anybody familiar with Security Auditor Collection?
[02:08] <billy> Federico90: you're gonna have to give me some background, my homey.  Not sure where you're coming from.  What web page are you referring to?
[02:08] <billy> oh the wireless.
[02:08] <dnissley> akshay, emacs is an editor
[02:08] <laska> can anybody tell me how to mount ntfs partition with all permisions?
[02:08] <exarkun> Why does ubuntu-desktop depend on python-mysqldb?
[02:08] <Federico90> billy: this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WLANHowTo
[02:08] <mmartinez> It uses Knoppix to boot up and utilize all the tools within it.
[02:08] <akshay> k
[02:08] <ferronica> nelly: i am using 5.1 channel speaker will it work good for it
[02:09] <mmartinez> My copy does not seem to aknowledge my NICs.....
[02:09] <Tomcat_> exarkun: It doesn't for me.
[02:09] <billy> sorry Federico90.  I just really don't know diddley squat poo about wireless.
[02:09] <akshay> so it has any use in programming
[02:09] <ferronica> Zewey: i think i have to unsinstall Goobox :(
[02:09] <fallingdutch> billy, i can only select HDA-intel at Systemsounds, devices i got ALC861analog alc861digital, alsa esd oss and autodetect
[02:09] <Tomcat_> exarkun: I got ubuntu-desktop installed but not python-mysqldb
[02:10] <exarkun> Tomcat_: In dapper it does
[02:10] <ferronica> Zewey: Not showing me information
[02:10] <kevor> When logged in with ssh (ssh -X address) to a ubuntu server i cannot open any x11 progs, it says "Error: cound't open display (null)". What can be wrong here?
[02:10] <exarkun> Tomcat_: Maybe not in a later release?
[02:10] <Federico90> billy: someone else who knows wireless troubleshot?
[02:10] <billy> fallingdutch: use alsa in the devices.
[02:10] <dnissley> akshay, you can create your c file with it
[02:10] <billy> Federico90: someone in here should.   Or maybe try back a little later.
[02:10] <Pici> kevor: Are you running an X server on your local machine?
[02:10] <billy> Federico90: it's still pretty early on the West Coast of the USA.
[02:10] <Zewey> ferronica: if you think you prefer different apps, go ahead :)
[02:10] <kevor> Pici: yea
[02:10] <fallingdutch> billy, if i test the devices i hear ... silence ....
[02:10] <Federico90> oh, here is launch time...
[02:11] <mike1o> I am having trouble with deluge 0.5
[02:11] <billy> fallingdutch: what motherboard you have?
[02:11] <akshay> dnissley: k, means i hv to type any programming with .c filename
[02:11] <Zewey> ferronica: Linux is about choice and variety.. although that really does sound like a bug, hmm
[02:11] <ferronica> Zewey: as nelly told me sound juicer work good there is Mp3 option there :)
[02:11] <ferronica> Zewey: you too use goobox
[02:11] <exarkun> Tomcat_: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[02:11] <Federico90> well
[02:12] <Tomcat_> exarkun: 6.10
[02:12] <Federico90> billy: what time is there?
[02:12] <billy> it's 8.15 here, central US time.
[02:12] <Zewey> ferronica: but only for flac. :) i'm still looking for a good gui ripper that can do VBR
[02:12] <fallingdutch> billy, a notebook, so i don't know
[02:12] <Zewey> *VBR mp3
[02:13] <Federico90> uhm so i'll try this evening (my time)
[02:13] <Federico90> ty anyway
[02:13] <exarkun> Tomcat_: thanks
[02:13] <Federico90> bye all and have a nice day
[02:13] <ferronica> Zewey: why VBR???
[02:13] <billy> fallingdutch: you've tried model=laptop?
[02:13] <fallingdutch> billy, yes ....
[02:13] <ferronica> Zewey: sound juicer is good for Flac
[02:14] <billy> fallingdutch: model=laptop-eapd ?
[02:14] <fallingdutch> billy, not yet ...
[02:14] <laska> is it true that there is no posible to write date on ntfs partitio from linux ?
[02:14] <billy> fallingdutch: give it a shot ..
[02:14] <billy> laska:  way possible.
[02:14] <billy> !nfts | laska
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <akshay> bye guys
[02:15] <Pici> !fuse | laska
[02:15] <ubotu> laska: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:15] <Zewey> ferronica: because my mp3 player only plays, well, mp3 :) and i usually encode at ~256kbps
[02:15] <billy> !ntfs | laska
[02:15] <ubotu> laska: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:15] <IndyN00b> Hello.  I am new to linux and trying to find a solution for using my iPod.  I have tried gtkpod unsuccessfully.  I installed amarok and really liked it but can't find a way to sync my iPod.  Does anyone have a suggestion on a good program for managing my iPod music and podcasts?
[02:15] <fallingdutch> billy, still nothing
[02:15] <billy> fallingdutch:  you may need to reboot after adjusting that.
[02:15] <Pici> !ipod | IndyN00b try looking at this page:
[02:15] <ubotu> IndyN00b try looking at this page:: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:16] <birki> hi
[02:16] <fallingdutch> billy, reloading the module should be enough, or not?
[02:16] <ferronica> Zewey: sound juicer not giving me song name?????
[02:16] <billy> fallingdutch: sounds logical, but not sure.
[02:16] <Zewey> ferronica: i thought you said it does? :P
[02:16] <ferronica> Zewey: it showing me but after ripping no song name
[02:17] <fallingdutch> billy, the howto i read said it was enough to reload the module
[02:18] <billy> fallingdutch:  which howto?
[02:18] <IndyN00b> Thanks.  I will check those out.
[02:19] <ferronica> Zewey: Is there any good ripper
[02:19] <billy> ferronica: Sound Juicer gives them to me OK.  Hmm....
[02:19] <ferronica> Zewey: :(
[02:19] <Zewey> ferronica: how about banshee, as suggested earlier?
[02:20] <ferronica> billy: after ripping i am not gettin song name
[02:20] <ferronica> billy: didnt tried yet
[02:20] <joeljkp> what's the best way to install a file to my palm? i keep getting errors with gpilot-install-file
[02:20] <imhavingamoment> right guys - anyone available at the moment for a pm reguarding ubuntu and the bloody nvidia graphics setup
[02:20] <ferronica> Zewey: didnt tried banshee yet
[02:20] <rambo3> imhavingamoment, envy
[02:20] <imhavingamoment> envy killed the computer
[02:20] <imhavingamoment> we've tried it
[02:20] <rambo3> thats good
[02:21] <rambo3> now you know what not to do
[02:21] <neozen> meep
[02:21] <mmartinez> I use a Knoppix live cd. The shit doesn't recognize my Wireless or Wired NICs. What's the deal? Any help would be greately appreciated.
[02:21] <imhavingamoment> yeah we basically know not to touch the thing - but thats not much help
[02:21] <dyrne> rambo3: you talk like one of those zen masters ;p
[02:21] <billy> ferronica: try "Strip special characters" under "Track Names".
[02:22] <ravi_master> hey everyone
[02:22] <neozen> hoallo
[02:22] <Pici> mmartinez: This is the Ubuntu support channel, I guess you'd need to find some Knoppix support for that. Sorry.
[02:22] <ikonia_> mmartinez watch the lanaguage !
[02:22] <ravi_master> neozen, did I give you some advice a couple of days ago or was it the other way around?
[02:22] <mmartinez> right...right...
[02:22] <ferronica> billy: ok
[02:22] <neozen> ravi_master: one of those
[02:22] <ravi_master> neozen, you helped me with diagnosing slow samba share right?
[02:23] <mmartinez> Anyway...I use Ubunts for the most part. I was just wondering if anybody in here knew anything about that....
[02:23] <neozen> ravi_master: samba.... nope.... thats still magic to me
[02:23] <ravi_master> neozen, was looking to track you down and tell you what I found to fix the problem.
[02:23] <neozen> ravi_master: ok
[02:23] <ravi_master> neozen, oh, must have been someone else then
[02:23] <neozen> ravi_master: but what'd you do?
[02:23] <neozen> ravi_master: I'm going to start messing w/ samba soon
[02:24] <mmartinez> I wasn't necessarily trying to offend ikonia with such a mediocre word such as ish...
[02:24] <ravi_master> neozen, ethtoo -S eth0, with options --full-duplex on --link-speed 100 and --auto-neg off
[02:24] <neozen> ok
[02:24] <rambo3> l
[02:24] <mmartinez> ravi: what are those commands?
[02:25] <ikonia_> mmartinez that word is offensive and uncalled for
[02:25] <ravi_master> neozen, you see, the pipe between my PC and the server started getting interference and I was getting a whole lot of TX errors when sharing files through samba
[02:25] <Farhadix> how I can set 1280x800?
[02:25] <rambo3> !ethtool | mmartinez
[02:25] <ubotu> mmartinez: ethtool: Display or change ethernet card settings. In component main, is important. Version 3-1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 160 kB
[02:25] <mmartinez> fair enough....let's drop it already...
[02:25] <neozen> ravi_master: got you
[02:25] <swany> Hi My soundblaster Live (live drive II) is constantly looping the start sound like a crap rave tune
[02:25] <swany> can anyone help?
[02:25] <_nano_> Anyone have any idea of how to get symlinks working on sshfs?
[02:25] <mmartinez> is ethtool a utility?
[02:26] <ravi_master> swany, what do you mean by looping the start sound?
[02:26] <ravi_master> mmartinez, yep
[02:26] <disgrntld> i manually edited the /etc/shadow file, is it necessary to tell the system to reload or refresh the file?
[02:26] <ferronica> Zewey: can i add u
[02:26] <disgrntld> or is something that is consulted everytime a login is attempted?
[02:26] <swany> like when winamp crashes on my old windows install it just loops like a fraction of a second going do do do do do do do
[02:26] <mmartinez> thanks guys....see that is what I'm talking about. I love this open source thing...everybody is so much open to assist a fellow in distress....thanks again!
[02:27] <Farhadix> can anyone help me?
[02:27] <neozen> disgrntld: shouldn't be.......... the next time you login..... you should be ok
[02:27] <ravi_master> swany, what happens when you try to play some other sound after your login?
[02:27] <billy> watup Farhadix
[02:27] <stefg> !anyone
[02:27] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:27] <disgrntld> neozen: cool thanks!
[02:27] <fallingdutch> billy, http://wiki.unixboard.de/index.php/HDAUDIO_Debian
[02:27] <mike1o> how come deluge forgets all my torrents everytime I reboot it?
[02:27] <Farhadix> where I can define resolution?, billy
[02:27] <ravi_master> mike10, how are you running deluge?
[02:27] <swany> i haven't tried yet this is a fresh install where can i get something to play?
[02:28] <Farhadix> i wanna 1280x800, billy
[02:28] <mike1o> which torrent client do u use?
[02:28] <stefg> !fixres > Farhadix
[02:28] <billy> Farhadix: System> Pref's>Screen Res'
[02:28] <mike1o> ravi_master, I installed it through apt
[02:28] <_nano_> anyone uses sshfs?
[02:28] <ravi_master> swany: http://www-mmsp.ece.mcgill.ca/Documents/AudioFormats/WAVE/Samples/AFsp/M1F1-Alaw-AFsp.wav
[02:28] <mike1o> I have the 0.5 version
[02:28] <ikonia_> _nano_ yes
[02:28] <billy> fallingdutch:  i followed this one.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:29] <_nano_> ikonia_, symlinks don't show up on mounted directories
[02:29] <ikonia_> _nano_ depends where the symlinks targets are as I understand it
[02:29] <Slart> _nano_: yup... use it every day
[02:29] <Farhadix> billy there isn't 1280x800 in System> Pref's>Screen Res'
[02:29] <_nano_> ikonia_, my symlink is pointing to a USB mounted device
[02:29] <stefg> !fixres | Farhadix
[02:29] <ubotu> Farhadix: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:29] <ikonia_> Farhadix then your card/monitor/driver isn't supporting that resolution
[02:30] <ikonia_> _nano_ but does the target have read permissions for your suer
[02:30] <neozen> Farhadix: do you have a intel 945 graphics card?
[02:30] <fallingdutch> thanks billy
[02:30] <neozen> Farhadix: or some derivative thereof?
[02:30] <Farhadix> neozen: no i have ati 1400X
[02:30] <neozen> ah
[02:31] <fallingdutch> Farhadix, use 915resolution
[02:31] <billy> fallingdutch: no prob.  hope it helps.
[02:31] <_nano_> Slart, ikonia_ : the server has a user that can read USB mounted device. since sshfs mounts only the home directory. I just created a symlink from the home directory to the usb mount
[02:31] <Farhadix> how?
[02:31] <neozen> fallingdutch: no mon.... that only works for intel cards
[02:31] <nn531> i have an adesklet problem can anyone assist?
[02:31] <_nano_> Slart, ikonia_ : although i can browse through the symlink using ssh ..but sshfs doesn't show it
[02:31] <ravi_master> mike10, try resizing the deluge window out a bit, adjust panes, see if you get a refresh which gets all your files displayed again.
[02:31] <ali1234> my eth0 (10/100 8139too) is transfering data at 4kbyte/sec and stalling after every 50k or so. none of the other machines on the switch have a problem. how can i figure out what's wrong?
[02:32] <Aat56> neozen would you have intell about that, what to do when windoze can go with current monitor to ~1280x1024@85Hz some 32 million? colors but x doesnt go past 1024x768@60hz, i810 is the driver
[02:32] <ravi_master> ali, I might now
[02:32] <fallingdutch> oh neozen ... sorry
[02:32] <Slart> _nano_: hmm.. never tried anything fancy like that... sorry, I don't think i'll be able to help you much
[02:32] <ravi_master> ali, adjust your ethernet interface with ethtool, was talking about it just a few seconds ago
[02:32] <swany> waiting for the program to load :( seems VERY slow
[02:32] <ravi_master> !ethtool > ali1234
[02:32] <mike1o> !anybody
[02:32] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:32] <_nano_> Slart, is there a way to mount a usb device to the home directory instead of /media/FAT32 ?
[02:33] <ikonia_> _nano_ man mount
[02:33] <mike1o> a good torrent client
[02:33] <Slart> _nano_: I've made a directory under my home dir for my own mounted stuff
[02:33] <neozen> Aat56: 915resolution might help you
[02:33] <ikonia_> mike1o what about one ?
[02:33] <ravi_master> mike1o, try resizing the deluge window out a bit, adjust panes, see if you get a refresh which gets all your files displayed again.
[02:33] <neozen> Aat56: cannot be sure
[02:33] <Slart> _nano_: mount points can be just about anywhere I think
[02:33] <_nano_> ikonia_, i meant the devices that are automatically mounted
[02:33] <Aat56> ook thanks
[02:33] <ikonia_> Slart totally
[02:33] <ravi_master> mike1o, I use a wined uTorrent
[02:33] <ikonia_> _nano_ so unmount it
[02:33] <Farhadix> thanx all, I'm going to test
[02:33] <swany> it played for a bit then stopped half way through
[02:33] <neozen> Aat56: check its docs (man 915resolution)
[02:33] <_nano_> ikonia_, alright
[02:34] <ravi_master> swany: and what happnenned to the repeating sound?
[02:34] <swany> i'm still getting a repetative start sound like its slowly moving through the tune
[02:34] <mike1o> ravi_master, must be a bug in the python source
[02:34] <ravi_master> mike1o, yep
[02:34] <neozen> Aat56: but I'd be surprised if it doesn't help you
[02:34] <Slart> by the way.. anyone know why ubuntu insists on mounting hard drives under /media instead of /mnt ? some paradigm change I've missed?
[02:34] <ali1234> ravi_master: i'll give it a go, but i'm not using samba
[02:34] <ikonia_> Slart thats the hal / dbus rules in gnome
[02:34] <ravi_master> ali1234, doesn't matter, ethtool is for all your network connections
[02:35] <Aat56> neozen thanks, i'll test that then
[02:35] <swany> i tried playing the file again but its repeating too now
[02:35] <ravi_master> ali1234, where network==ethernet
[02:35] <Slart> ikonia_: ah.. ok.. let's blame the gnome then =)
[02:35] <ikonia_> Slart you can change it I beleive
[02:35] <neozen> Aat56: kk, good luck to you
[02:35] <ikonia_> Slart I've not made custom rules for that sort of thing for a while
[02:35] <Slart> ikonia_: nah.. I don't mind.. just wondered
[02:35] <ravi_master> swany, hold on, I will look for a sound reset command
[02:35] <wols> question: does ubuntu come with nvidia drivers and ati fglrx directly out of the box.Ie. Are those drivers binaries directly on the CD?
[02:35] <ikonia_> wols no
[02:35] <wols> thanks
[02:35] <ikonia_> wols there are in the "nonfree"repo
[02:36] <stefg> !nvidia | wols
[02:36] <wols> ok. same like debian then
[02:36] <ubotu> wols: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:36] <ali1234> ravi_master: i know. but for me samba connections have always been slow. most other stuff normally isn't.
[02:36] <ravi_master> ali1234, if most of the other stuff is just dealing with web pages, etc, you might not realize it because of the data sizes involved.
[02:37] <swany> ravi_master it seems to be slowing my whole computer down to a crawl :S
[02:37] <neozen> ravi_master: where might these transmission errors appear?
[02:37] <ali1234> ravi_master: most of the other stuff involves transfering raw digital video
[02:37] <ravi_master> neozen: ifconfig
[02:37] <ali1234> hence why i don't use samba
[02:37] <neozen> ravi_master: kk
[02:37] <ravi_master> ali1234: try ifconfig and see if you have any errors
[02:37] <ali1234> ravi_master: no errors
[02:38] <Shane-S> will there be a firefox 2 released via synaptic for Ubunut?
[02:38] <ravi_master> ali1234, so you are saying you have a problem with samba connecting to an external server, correct?
[02:38] <ikonia_> Shane-S its in endgy
[02:38] <ikonia_> Shane-S no sine of a back port yet
[02:38] <ravi_master> ali1234, check that the settings on the other end, on the server, are good too.
[02:38] <ikonia_> sine ??? sighn
[02:38] <ikonia_> sign
[02:38] <ikonia_> ughh
[02:38] <ali1234> ravi_master: no, not at all. i'm not using samba at all
[02:38] <ravi_master> ali1234, then please explain your problem clearly.
[02:39] <ali1234> ravi_master: the problem is that any kind of tcp/ip connection will stall after about 50kb, and the total maximum throughput of the 100mbit card is currently 4kbyte/sec
[02:39] <ikonia_> ali1234 including say scp and http
[02:39] <ali1234> ravi_master: as in, http, ftp, ssh, anything really
[02:39] <ikonia_> ?
[02:39] <wols> Shane-S: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IceWeasel
[02:39] <ikonia_> ali1234 then either your network card driver is weak or your lan has an issue
[02:40] <ravi_master> ali1234... I'm not a networking expert but how many computers do you have on this network of yours?
[02:41] <ravi_master> ikonia_, you wanna take this one? I left swany out in the cold.
[02:41] <ali1234> ravi_master: 3, not including the ones that are turned off. and one is the router.
[02:41] <ravi_master> swany, yt?
[02:41] <billy> gosta slide.
[02:41] <swany> yt?
[02:41] <Berad`> I did a fresh install of ubuntu last night then tried installing eclipse sdk, said eclipse could not be found
[02:41] <Berad`> path not found i believe
[02:41] <ikonia_> ali1234 is the problem the same going from/to all hosts - or between two other hosts, or just your current PC
[02:41] <neozen> swany: yt? = you there
[02:41] <ikonia_> Berad` alter the path then
[02:41] <ravi_master> ali1234, and what about that 1 other computer you have, can you connect to everything from there fine?
[02:41] <swany> yeah
[02:42] <Berad`> ikonia: To what? Oo
[02:42] <ikonia_> Berad` where ever the application is
[02:42] <ravi_master> swany, just wanted to make sure before I started looking for a solution again.
[02:42] <ali1234> ikonia_: problem only affects the PC in question. the other workstation can transfer at full speed from internet sites, or from the router machine. the problem PC cannot transfer successfully from any site
[02:42] <zach_> what's the best torrent software for ubuntu?
[02:42] <ikonia_> ali1234 ok so its most probably either your network card/driver or your routing
[02:42] <swany> my sb live (livedrive II) cant play any sounds as it just repeats fractions of a second while going through slowing down my pc
[02:43] <ikonia_> zach_ thats just personal opinion
[02:43] <ikonia_> zach_ try some
[02:43] <Slart> zach_: I use azureus.. works for me
[02:43] <Pici> !torrent | zach_
[02:43] <ubotu> zach_: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[02:43] <ali1234> ikonia_: honestly i suspect hardware but i cannot find a single error message in dmesg, /var/log/messages, ifconfig etc.
[02:43] <ravi_master> swany, do a cat /proc/asound/modules and pastebin it
[02:43] <zach_> allright, thanks guys
[02:43] <ravi_master> ali1234, none of the other computers on this network have a problem?
[02:43] <swany>  0 snd_emu10k1
[02:43] <swany>  1 snd_via82xx
[02:44] <neozen> zach_: azureus gobbles ram... especially the one in the repos
[02:44] <ali1234> no, none of them have any kind of problem at all
[02:44] <_3dc> ui, so many ppl here :) hi
[02:44] <Aat56> Nameeater
[02:44] <swany> i have an onboard sound card but its disabled in the bios
[02:44] <ravi_master> _3dc, got a prob?
[02:44] <Aat56> ops nothing
[02:44] <neozen> zach_: I'd recommend at least 512mb ram to run comfortably
[02:44] <_3dc> yeah ravi, just a small question :)
[02:45] <ali1234> i doubt it is a routing problem since all i did was plug all the machines into a switch, then plug that into an ipcop box. and that's all worked fine for two years...
[02:45] <neozen> ali1234: my nature says stick it on the card
[02:45] <ali1234> and yeah... i have tried a different switch, and different cables :/
[02:46] <neozen> ali1234: nics are cheap
[02:46] <Crazytom> ali1234, sometimes ports in a switch die,  did you try and switch one of them around and see if the problem moves
[02:46] <ravi_master> swany
[02:46] <neozen> 10-20 should set you up
[02:46] <neozen> if that
[02:46] <ravi_master> got a solution, second post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307246
[02:46] <ali1234> this one is on board
[02:46] <ravi_master> _3dc, go right ahead
[02:46] <neozen> ali1234: ewww... drag mon.....
[02:46] <mr_grump5> billy:i fixed the grub thingy with xp!!
[02:46] <swany> k i'll have a look cheers ravi_master
[02:47] <neozen> big drag when onboard stuff starts to go kaboom
[02:47] <ravi_master> mr_grump5, that's the worst fix I've heard in my life
[02:47] <lastn0de> #ubuntu-effects is idle. if someone here can help with fglrx trouble shooting, please let me know. thanks.
[02:47] <mike1o> is bittornado better than deluge torrent?
[02:47] <ikonia_> mike1o try it and see - its personal opinion
[02:47] <Mats> any gimp irc channel?
[02:47] <ravi_master> mik1o, it's a matter of preference
[02:47] <mr_grump5> ravi_master: i beleive i never spoke to u
[02:47] <skuld> Hey all, I'm looking for help setting up my wireless.
[02:47] <ikonia_> lastn0de keep the patience in #ubuntu-effects
[02:48] <ravi_master> mr_grump5, and I don't believe I spoke to you either.
[02:48] <Mats> Is there a Gimp-channel on IRC?
[02:48] <lastn0de> ikonia, sure, :-) rebooting to try a howto in any case. brb
[02:48] <_3dc> ravi_master: I do have a shellscript, which restarts an gameserver if it crashes. if i use the command manually, so it works and does not crash. so i have an endless loop if i use the script.
[02:48] <_3dc> i'll post the script now:
[02:48] <ravi_master> wait wait wait
[02:48] <ravi_master> paste into pastebin
[02:49] <neozen> _3dc: post to pastebin
[02:49] <_3dc> oky
[02:49] <ravi_master> Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:49] <_muelli_> is there a way to prevent ubuntu from deleting /tmp while booting?
[02:49] <neozen> ravi_master: how long does stuff get saved there? ... I've always wondered
[02:49] <javaJake> Mats, #gimp :)
[02:49] <ikonia_> _muelli_ not really
[02:49] <Omeil> Error: This version of PyQt requires SIP v4.5.1 or later??
[02:49] <gepatino> _muelli_: try disabling tmpreaper
[02:49] <Mats> How to erase stuff in layers in gimp so you see the background in the underlaying layer? It's called "background eraser tool in photoshop...
[02:50] <Mats> ok, thanks!
[02:50] <_muelli_> wenn ikonia. that sucks.. is there no way of interactive booting? Like "press Y to start ..." ?
[02:50] <ravi_master> neozen, no idea - probably a couple of weeks
[02:50] <ikonia_> _muelli_ its good that it clears down temp though
[02:50] <_muelli_> what do you mean  gepatino?
[02:50] <Cave`> I've seen some screenshots where there are an applications bar (gnome). I don't think it's gdesklets, what can it be, any1?
[02:50] <ikonia_> _muelli_
[02:50] <ikonia_> oops
[02:50] <_3dc> so i did: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11495/
[02:51] <_muelli_> well ikonia. not in my case actually ;-) My session just went out of power and I have some data in /tmp
[02:51] <swany> ravi_master how do i edit a file when not in root mode (if you know what i mean)
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ well thats just an accident
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ as a general rule of thumb - its good
[02:51] <mikewdhd> Mats: You're talking about erasing stuff on the active layer or one below it?
[02:51] <_muelli_> :D
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ you could have booted into single user mode
[02:51] <_muelli_> hm. you mean it doesn't run initscripts then?
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ no
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ well, not all of them
[02:51] <_muelli_> but at least init=/bin/bash should work.. yeah..
[02:52] <neozen> yay while(true)!
[02:52] <mla> Hello
[02:52] <ikonia_> _muelli_ yup
[02:52] <neozen> lol
[02:52] <_muelli_> but it's not really convenient though ikonia_ :-\
[02:52] <ravi_master> swany, sudo <COMMAND>
[02:52] <ikonia_> _muelli_ then search the init scripts for the clean down process and write your own function
[02:52] <_muelli_> ikonia_: Gentoo f.e. has the ability of "Interactive booting" which is quite useful in some cases
[02:52] <Mats> mikewdhd: on the active layer
[02:52] <ikonia_> _muelli_ this isn't gentoo
[02:52] <gepatino> _muelli_: tmpreaper is an utility that deletes temp files, is runned by anacron
[02:52] <swany> whats a text editor i can use in the console?
[02:52] <ravi_master> _3dc: go ahead with the issue you are having with this script
[02:53] <mikewdhd> Mats: It's not simply erase?
[02:53] <Slart> swany: try just "editor"
[02:53] <gepatino> _muelli_: i think you can disable it from /etc/defaults/tmpreaper
[02:53] <Mats> Hm, maybe, I'll try!
[02:53] <Omeil> so no one knows why Error: This version of PyQt requires SIP v4.5.1 or later?
[02:53] <CapaH> Every 30 times I reboot the machine I get this: harddrive has been mounted 30 times without being checked, check forced ---- Can someone explain to me how to run this check myself before ubuntu does, the 30 times mark can be frustrating if lets say I have to attend a meeting, and that just happens to be the 30th time ... anyone?
[02:53] <ikonia_> _3dc this isn't a shell scripting class - join #bash for shell scripting help
[02:53] <ravi_master> fsck
[02:53] <ikonia_> gepatino thats handy to know
[02:53] <_muelli_> hm. gepatino. I would have to boot the machine for that. And then it would clean up /tmp/. but thanks for yuor advice :) I will go with init=/bin/bash or so
[02:53] <gepatino> _muelli_: anyway, it's not a good practice to save usefull things in /tmp, it's supposed to be just that.. temporary
[02:54] <neozen> swany: nano, vim, emacs ...... those are your big 3
[02:54] <_3dc> ok, i'll ask there. thx ikonia_
[02:54] <ali1234> CapaH: boot into single user mode from the boot menu, then run fsck. other wise it will complain that your filesystems are mounted
[02:54] <_muelli_> yeah.. but f*cking ACPI dies on hibernate. So the system didn't tell me about passing out;-)
[02:54] <ikonia_> _muelli_ watch the language - there is NO need for it
[02:54] <ravi_master> ikonia_, thanks for chasing him away :(
[02:54] <gepatino> _muelli_: if you have to save something now, yes, you rather boot in single mode.
[02:54] <ali1234> CapaH: i think it's marked "recovery mode"
[02:54] <ikonia_> ravi_master no problem
[02:55] <ikonia_> ravi_master this is ubuntu support - not "learn to shell script"
[02:55] <ravi_master> ikonia: fair enough
[02:56] <dddfff>   : andybody can type english?
[02:56] <mike1o> hey is it possible to scan from the parallel port?
[02:56] <ikonia_> dddfff we all speak english
[02:56] <ravi_master> swany, hope you got neozen's suggestions, for beginners I suggest pico or nano
[02:56] <dddfff>   : that's great
[02:56] <swany> k
[02:56] <Slart> dddfff: what irc-client are you using?
[02:56] <qiu> hello
[02:56] <morpheus74> This is what I get when using the uname -a command, "Linux emac 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:56] <morpheus74> "  I am trying to install the right driver for my nVidia video card.  Therefore, I would install the "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.11-generic" package from within Synaptic, right?
[02:56] <neozen> what's with the unicode dddfff?
[02:56] <ravi_master> chatzilla ftw
[02:57] <dddfff>   : yeah
[02:57] <dddfff>   : creak version
[02:57] <ikonia_> morpheus74 yup - but if you follow the guide and get the nvidia-glx package it will do it all for you
[02:57] <krishna> I changed my nameserver in resolv.conf, but the dns don't seem to be resolving through it. Does ubuntu keep some kind of cache that I can clear?
[02:57] <ravi_master> knock it off dd
[02:57] <swany> i managed ok with editor :)
[02:57] <qiu> what are you doing?
[02:57] <ikonia_> krishna what name servers is it using
[02:57] <dddfff>   : to me?
[02:58] <skuld> I'm looking for help setting up my wireless, anyone have a second?
[02:58] <morpheus74> ikonia, What guide are you referring to?  I found a guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, is this the one you are referring to?
[02:58] <ikonia_> dddfff can you please turn off any fonts/scripting/colours in your script client please
[02:58] <ikonia_> !nvidia >morpheus74
[02:58] <dddfff> ok
[02:58] <dddfff> just remote off
[02:58] <ikonia_> morpheus74 that one (see pm)
[02:58] <neozen> thankee dddfff
[02:58] <neozen> much obliged
[02:58] <dddfff> that's ok:)
[02:58] <dddfff> i'm from china
[02:58] <ravi_master> krishna: what did you get your dig command, what you wanted?
[02:59] <swany> ok trying a reboot wish me luck :D
[02:59] <ravi_master> ah, cool, how's the firewall doing up there ddf?
[02:59] <neozen> dddfff: welcome ... what can we do for you?
[02:59] <neozen> skuld: what kind of card?
[02:59] <ravi_master> swany, wish you luck!
[03:00] <skuld> neozen: That's a really good question.
[03:00] <dddfff> lol,just talk
[03:00] <neozen> skuld: ::blinks:: .................
[03:00] <skuld> neozen: I'm on a laptop, and I'm used to Windows were everything is just...setup.
[03:00] <krishna> ravi_master: nope. The dns doesn't even resolve through dig. not on this machine at least
[03:00] <skuld> neozen: So, to be honest, I have NO idea what I'm doing, or where to even start.
[03:00] <ikonia_> krishna put your /etc/resolv.conf in the pastebin please
[03:01] <ravi_master> krishna, ah, ok
[03:01] <neozen> skuld: so.... you don't know what kind of wireless card you have?
[03:01] <krishna> ikonia_: resolv.conf is one line: nameserver 66.207.128.144
[03:01] <neozen> skuld: did you build or buy?
[03:01] <skuld>  neozen: Bought.
[03:01] <skuld> neozeh: And nope, I really don't have a clue.
[03:01] <ikonia_> krishna can you ping that address or do "nslookup ; server 66.207.12.144"
[03:01] <neozen> skuld: ok..... look it up in the manufacturers documentation for the particular model
[03:02] <morpheus74> ikonia, Thanks.
[03:02] <wols> skuld: you start with lspci -v to find out what chip it has
[03:02] <neozen> or you could do that
[03:02] <mla> Hello, I use feisty and all my checkout in cvs client (crossvc, cervisia) are displayed locally modified. Someone know this problem ?
[03:02] <dddfff> hi friend,i'll coming next time,see you
[03:02] <dddfff> :)
[03:03] <ikonia_> mla  fesity support is in #ubuntu+1
[03:03] <mla> ok
[03:03] <mla> thanks
[03:03] <ravi_master> krishna, having trouble what exactly have you done thus far, what do you want your end result to be?
[03:03] <chori> Anyone good at bluetooth and know how to "redirect" all sound from one computer to another using bluetooth?
[03:04] <skuld> wols: Which part of this am I looking for, exactly?
[03:04] <krishna> ikonia_: the nameserver is definitely live and functional
[03:05] <neozen> skuld: I'd recommend looking it up @ the manufacturers site..... they keep more detailed info (exact model numbers etc) then lspci might tell you
[03:05] <wols> skuld: simply paste it
[03:05] <wols> neozen: haha
[03:05] <neozen> skuld: paste into pastebin!
[03:05] <wols> you're lucky if a manufacturer tells you what chip is in there at all
[03:05] <ravi_master> holy crud, chori, no idea
[03:05] <morpheus74> My video card, according to the label on the front of the machine is a nVidia GeForce 6100 GPU.  What's the GPU mean?
[03:05] <krishna> ravi_master: I'm just trying to get one dns to resolv from this site. It's resolving everywhere else. I thought maybe ubuntu is caching the result of looking it up here.
[03:05] <skuld> wols ; neozen: Okay.
[03:05] <neozen> wols: whaaa? .... lenovo provided exact info
[03:05] <ikonia_> krishna did you check it like I asked you to check it
[03:05] <AaronCampbell> Has anyone had any problems with either lite-on or asus DVD burners?  And does anyone know if I'd be able to use lightscribe (on an asus drive) in (k)ubuntu?
[03:06] <wols> neozen: some do, some don't. most don't
[03:06] <ravi_master> krishna, and did you run the dhclient command?
[03:06] <chori> ravi_master: :/
[03:06] <wols> while lspci shows you exactly what linux sees which means it's what will work. always
[03:06] <skuld> neozen ; wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11498/
[03:06] <neozen> wols: even my #@$@#$#@$@$ sotec had good hardware lists
[03:06] <ikonia_> AaronCampbell lightscribe is supported, the software to generate the light scribe images for burining in a "burn" format is only available from 2 closed source packages not in ubuntu
[03:06] <krishna> ikonia_: I've been pinging for a while now :) I can dig and do an nslookup on it
[03:06] <mEck0> I wonder if Exaile or another music player can stream music with a Apple Express? A friend is trying Ubuntu and want a musicplayer which can do that.
[03:06] <chori> ravi_master: My idea is to "fake" a bluetooth speaker but I cant find any information about it
[03:06] <neozen> wols: and that was the worst laptop ever
[03:06] <ravi_master> krishna, I mean the script, not the command
[03:06] <wols> skuld: BCM43xx
[03:07] <ravi_master> chori, you have bluetooth adapter running ubuntu?
[03:07] <ikonia_> krishna so when you type "nslookup" on its own, it uses that server
[03:07] <krishna> ravi_master: On bootup my nameserver was initially set with dhclient, yes
[03:07] <ravi_master> chori, there may be a way through audio2net
[03:07] <neozen> oh boy... he's got an ati ::grins::
[03:07] <chori> ravi_master: well, it's pluged in
[03:07] <neozen> this should be fun
[03:07] <chori> ravi_master: ok
[03:07] <ravi_master> chori, look into audio-over-net
[03:07] <AaronCampbell> ikonia_: so it'll work, but I need a closed-source 3rd party app?
[03:07] <neozen> skuld: you're in for an education
[03:07] <skuld> neozen: *She :D
[03:07] <skuld> Rock.
[03:07] <ikonia_> AaronCampbell yup
[03:08] <AaronCampbell> Cool, I'm ok with that
[03:08] <chori> ravi_master: will d :) thanks
[03:08] <krishna> ikonia_: yeah.
[03:08] <neozen> skuld: please excuse my sexist a55 I apologize
[03:08] <ravi_master> swany, any good results?
[03:09] <neozen> oh crud
[03:09] <skuld> neozen: Not a problem.  I was only kidding.  You know, I don't expect you to be able to tell.  Unless you can see me...and that's a little creepy.  ; )
[03:09] <ravi_master> neozen, I've got an ati 9200 and haven't been able to properly configure it for a couple of years!
[03:09] <neozen> line 97..... its a broadcom
[03:09] <neozen> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[03:09] <skuld> o_o
[03:09] <skuld> neozen: Forgive my idiocy, but I have no idea what that means.
[03:09] <ravi_master> neozen, yeah, but don't take that as an example skuld, hope yours works
[03:10] <skuld> ;_;
[03:10] <skuld> You guys are making me worry.
[03:10] <neozen> skuld: your card is notorius for being a severe pain in the arse
[03:10] <neozen> skuld: you'll be fine
[03:10] <javaJake> skuld, ouch!
[03:10] <ravi_master> skuld, ati is a bigger pain that broadcom
[03:10] <ravi_master> skuld, you should be ok though.
[03:11] <skuld> Alright.
[03:11] <neozen> ravi_master: not for that model of card
[03:11] <skuld> I'm alright.
[03:11] <wols> skuld: broadcom folks as goatfuckers not releasing specs at all. which means bcm43xx driver had to be reverse engineeered
[03:11] <billy> goodness
[03:11] <wols> and you need a firmware by broadcom to make the thing usable under linux
[03:11] <javaJake> skuld, I have a Linksys Broadcom card. It works pretty well
[03:11] <ravi_master> ok, lemme take a look at your lspci...
[03:11] <javaJake> skuld, there is one catch - it can sometimes freeze your computer up.
[03:11] <skuld> wols: Whatever that says is sounds like I'm gonna get kicked in the rear.
[03:11] <wols> ravi_master: ati driver should work
[03:11] <mike1o> !scan
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[03:12] <neozen> skuld oh... we won't kick you.....
[03:12] <wols> skuld: nah. just that it's harder to get it all worrking than it should be. but you can get it working, it's doable
[03:12] <bullgard4> I have commanded detlef@MD97600:~/.irssi/scripts$ chmod u+rwx ~/.irssi/scripts/atm.exe. Now 'detlef@MD97600:~/.irssi/scripts$ ~/.irssi/scripts/atm.exe' obtains "syntax error. Last token seen: /; Garbled time." I do not understand what Ubuntu considers a 'last token seen' and 'garbled time'.
[03:12] <mr_grump5> billy:got it fixed!!turned out to be a missing file
[03:12] <ravi_master> wols: believe me, I've tried those, don't like the performance. If you mean the proprietary, dvi is an issue there.
[03:12] <javaJake> skuld, The freeze is strange - your mouse works, but you can't open any programs. The keyboard dies, and the kernel continually outputs a particular message about timing out.
[03:12] <maniac> BULKI NERABOTAJUT NA LINUX
[03:12] <ravi_master> ati has to step their game up
[03:12] <skuld> neozen ; wols ; javaJake: Thanks for anything in advance.
[03:12] <wols> ravi_master: no ati. it _should_ work
[03:13] <`nick> Hi Everyone, Im thinking of using ubuntu as my primary operating system, the is one thing that I am so used to working correct using windows that I cannot find to work correctly in Linux, (Dual Monitors) When I am at work I use my laptop screen aswell as a 19" TFT Monitor, application windows can move freely between them, after my day at work, I take my laptop home, when it boots up it automaticly detects that there is no external monitor plugged in and using 
[03:13] <skuld> javaJake : That's...obnoxious.
[03:13] <ravi_master> wols: heh, sorry for the overlook.
[03:13] <skuld> javaJake : Not you, but that happening.
[03:13] <javaJake> skuld, to sum up what everyone is saying, is it'll take a bit of work to get it up and running, but it'll be fine while it's running with a possible crash every five hours. Just be sure to restart. :D
[03:13] <ravi_master> `nick, and here comes another video card problem... what's your's?
[03:13] <Crazytom> are you guys helping skuld in a private channel?
[03:13] <wols> ravi_master: cards from ~raedon7500 to x850 have open drivers now. 3D ones
[03:14] <neozen> Crazytom: no
[03:14] <`nick> The graphics card im using in my laptop is an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500,
[03:14] <javaJake> `nick, yea, that's getting into the file called /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:14] <neozen> Crazytom: right here seemed to be a good idea
[03:14] <ravi_master> wols: you mean the ati/radeon driver name?
[03:14] <Crazytom> good i wanted to watch and learn
[03:14] <javaJake> `nick, oh, that'll be simple - there's nice instructions online.
[03:14] <wols> ravi_master: ati, in 7.1
[03:14] <Crazytom> i have that same card
[03:14] <neozen> Crazytom: okie
[03:15] <mike1o> I have recently gotten my multi-function laser printer working... but it seems that I am not able to scan
[03:15] <Crazytom> but i'm using a linksys card right now
[03:15] <ravi_master> hahah, we have an ati fest on our hands...
[03:15] <skuld> So, what next?
[03:15] <neozen> ravi_master: you have experience pounding on the 43xx?
[03:15] <mike1o> !scan
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[03:15] <ravi_master> those AirForce One's are tough cookies as you said but I think I may have a solution
[03:16] <javaJake> `nick, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[03:16] <neozen> ravi_master: as I usually just run when one is involved
[03:16] <ravi_master> you know, ndiswrapper for those seemed to have ok performance
[03:17] <gripner> hey, how to install java sdk on ubuntu ?
[03:17] <neozen> why they aren't putting the intel pro wireless 3945abg in more lappys I'll never know
[03:17] <Crazytom> and fwcutter
[03:17] <neozen> ravi_master: no experience
[03:17] <swany> my soundcard is still looping :(
[03:17] <swany> cat /proc/asound/modules
[03:17] <swany>  0 snd_emu10k1
[03:17] <swany>  1 snd_mpu401
[03:17] <Crazytom> skuld, what is the card doing?
[03:17] <`nick> I don't have a problem configuring linux to support dual monitors, but I want it to be like windows, I want it to automaticly detects that there is or is not a monitor connected
[03:17] <ravi_master> swany, bah, did you do everything in that post?
[03:17] <neozen> ravi_master: I'll probably buy one one of these days just to pound on it
[03:17] <swany> is what it says now :S
[03:17] <swany> yeah
[03:17] <`nick> I don't want to change the settings everyday when I get home and only have my laptop screen
[03:17] <skuld> Crazytom: I'm going to assume...not a lot?
[03:18] <ravi_master> swany, ok, hold on
[03:18] <doseryder> Hi, I have made several attempts to change the permission on /media/sda1 (which is a ntfs-3g mount) but it failed to respond to the changes made (As a root)
[03:18] <ravi_master> ok, vereyone with a bcm43xx raise your hand
[03:18] <ravi_master> everyone*
[03:18] <neozen> *hole
[03:18] <javaJake> gripner, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk for Java 5.0, or sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk for Java 6 (which has yet to be fully released - I believe they released the JDK early to prepare devs).
[03:19] <Crazytom> skuld, is your card eth1 eth2 wlan0?  what is its designation
[03:19] <javaJake> Got to run
[03:19] <doseryder> Apparently, by default its permission set is 777 but i wanted to chmod it to 755
[03:19] <javaJake> TTYL everyone
[03:19] <doseryder>  can someone please help me out
[03:19] <javaJake> ravi_master, I have one
[03:19] <javaJake> :P
[03:19] <neozen> javaJake: beautiful ..... you get it working?
[03:19] <ravi_master> yay, lemme guess, ndiswrapper javaJake?
[03:19] <skuld> Crazytom: eth1
[03:19] <javaJake> neomi, ravi_master, nope, bcm43xx driver. :)
[03:19] <linuxspecial> ciao
[03:19] <ravi_master> ah, fwcutter?
[03:19] <javaJake> Yes
[03:20] <neozen> javaJake: O.O
[03:20] <ravi_master> hmm, ok
[03:20] <javaJake> Yep
[03:20] <Crazytom> skuld, do iwlist eth1 list
[03:20] <neozen> javaJake: mind talking him through it
[03:20] <ravi_master> sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter should be the first thing he has to do then
[03:20] <javaJake> neozen, yes, actually. :(
[03:20] <skuld> Crazytom: Unknown Command
[03:20] <neozen> javaJake: that bad huh?
[03:20] <ravi_master> javaJake, see if this guide is ok for him to follow: http://debian.nfo.sk/Wiki/WifiBcm4318
[03:20] <javaJake> neozen, I have to go... let me get a link to the HOWTO I followed though...
[03:20] <Crazytom> skuld, ok how about iwconfig eth1
[03:20] <neozen> javaJake: awesome
[03:21] <skuld> Crazytom: What are you looking for in here?
[03:21] <neozen> javaJake: I've got a friend who spends his days cursing that same card
[03:21] <javaJake> ravi_master, no, that will not work
[03:21] <ravi_master> javaJake: ok, go ahead and post your suggested howto
[03:21] <Crazytom> skuld, i'm sorry try iwlist eth1 scan
[03:21] <lelik> hi, alll..  I have a question: I accidently deleted timezone info for my region: Asia/Seoul. We packet should I reinstall to restore this file?
[03:22] <skuld> Crazytom: No results
[03:22] <wols> Crazytom: he has no wireless tools installed and not even any driver loaded. now how could your commandline work in any sensible way?
[03:22] <ravi_master> I really tend to lean towards ndiswrapper than fwcutter though, I really don't like what they put out.
[03:22] <Crazytom> skuld, i'm just trying to find out where your card i
[03:22] <skuld> Crazytom: I'm just doing whatcha tell me.  ;)
[03:22] <neozen> Crazytom: we know what card it is
[03:22] <wols> skuld: you need to install/load the bcm43xx drivers, extract the firmware from the windows driver and put it into /lib/firmware
[03:22] <neozen> Crazytom: its a broadcom 43xx series
[03:22] <ravi_master> skuld, you haven't even properly gone through and installed the card yet, you won't be able to find it under wlan or eth interfaces yet. :/
[03:22] <skuld> wols : o_o
[03:23] <wols> then install wireless-tools, and _then_ you can follow what Crazytom said
[03:23] <Crazytom> i know that, i'm just trying to find out what stage the card is at
[03:23] <ravi_master> ok, screw everything use this guide and do it through ndiswrapper skuld: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809
[03:23] <wols> Crazytom: don't done grope in the dark but read the log what has gone before
[03:23] <neozen> skuld: don't worry..... its not as bad as it seems
[03:23] <wols> ndiswrappre IS bad
[03:23] <neozen> skuld: there's guides for it
[03:23] <Crazytom> I wanted to do that to see if he even has wireless tools installed
[03:23] <wols> at least if ther is anyother way
[03:24] <ravi_master> wols: oh no it isn't, has solved many a broadcom issue in my past
[03:24] <wols> Crazytom: that might be so but "command not found" should have clued you in then
[03:24] <Crazytom> i've been watching since he got here and noone was helping him
[03:24] <wols> ravi_master: yes, and back then there was no native driver. now there is
[03:24] <skuld> neozen ; wols ; javaJake ; ravi_master : *reading*  Yell for me if you need, please.
[03:24] <g0su> como se puede buscar que paquete tiene la librera X? un equery b libreria de gentoo vamos
[03:24] <maxx18> hi guys... quick question: is there any way to make all my windows go back to their default position and size?
[03:24] <tabbot> hello guys
[03:25] <ravi_master> wols: still haven't heard good things about stability on those native ones yet, if you have, please go ahead and share your story.
[03:25] <neozen> skuld: will do .......sorry you'll have such a rough time of it....
[03:25] <wols> ravi_master: I don't have them. but ndsiwrapper is always only a last resort
[03:25] <Crazytom> wols, i told him the wrong thing to type  i said iwlist eth1 list and it should have been iwlist eth1 scan i made a mistake and was correcting it.  I'm not a superguru.  but i did spend a considerable amount of time trying to get my wireless working and wanted to help while you guys were chatting about other stuff
[03:25] <_Rappy_> does a bootup script need sudo permissions?
[03:25] <gumpish> =/ Why does Evolution not know about DST changes?
[03:25] <neozen> wols: I know..... ndis is infamous
[03:26] <ravi_master> ravi_master, ok, we'll have skuld install fwcutter then :-/
[03:26] <javaJake> Attention all those needing help on bcm43xx cards or those who can help please go to #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help (private channel)
[03:26] <wols> Crazytom: it doesn't matter. iwlist wasn't wrong
[03:26] <ravi_master> :sigh:
[03:26] <chainsawcarver> is there antivirus programs for ubuntu?
[03:26] <skuld> ravi_master : Download and extract windows drivers to a folder of your choice (drivers can be found here: ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/note...ver/80211g.zip)
[03:26] <wols> chainsawcarver: clamav
[03:26] <skuld> ravi_master: I'm stuck there.
[03:26] <neozen> NICE
[03:26] <wols> chainsawcarver: the quiestion is, what do you want it for?
[03:26] <ravi_master> skuld: hold on, we'll have you try native drivers first
[03:26] <skuld> ravi_master : Broken link?
[03:26] <wols> not enough viruses for linux to make it worthwhile
[03:26] <tabbot> anyone know a repo for banshee 0.12 (i am running edgy)
[03:26] <skuld> Okay.
[03:26] <chainsawcarver> well im new to linux so im not sure if i need antivirus or not
[03:26] <ravi_master> undo the first part of that guide skuld
[03:27] <chainsawcarver> do i need antivirus?
[03:27] <swany> its going through the startup sound but looping each part of it constantly :(
[03:27] <stefg> no
[03:27] <wols> chainsawcarver: you don't. you don't need a firewall either
[03:27] <ravi_master> take away blacklist like from modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:27] <clive> hi i had a kernel panic so i had to boot from mepis live disc, can i still access the files i have on my computer?
[03:27] <javaJake> neozen, ravi_master, #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help
[03:27] <skuld> ravi_master : You're going to have to give me a moment.  I tend to be technologically challenged.  : /
[03:29] <javaJake> skuld, #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help
[03:29] <ravi_master> skuld: here we go, I'll wal you through it:
[03:29] <Pici> !blacklist
[03:29] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[03:29] <chainsawcarver> well my router is probably a good enuff firewall but i was just checking to see if i needed antivirus
[03:29] <neozen> ravi_master: head over to the private chat
[03:29] <chainsawcarver> thats cool if i dont tho :D
[03:29] <ravi_master> neozen ok
[03:29] <javaJake> skuld, ravi_master, let's take this off the main channel and get somewhere less cluttered.
[03:29] <dyrne> clive: should yes. you just need to mount the partition
[03:29] <Ayabara_> I did a dist-upgrade to feisty that failed bigtime. now I'n reinstalling edgy. is it straight-forward to reuse the same home folder and account (on separate partition)?
[03:29] <neozen> somewhere where it can be logged easily
[03:29] <javaJake> :)
[03:29] <ali1234> Ayabara_: i've had the same homedir since breezy without problems
[03:29] <clive> thx, so if i do for example mount /hda2 . that should work?
[03:29] <gripner> so, anyone who can tell me how to install JAVA development kit on ubuntu ?
[03:29] <wols> !java
[03:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:29] <gripner> not only the JRE
[03:29] <javaJake> skuld, if you want, just type "/join #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help" and push ENTER
[03:29] <bulmer> gripner: download the Sun java jdk
[03:29] <Ayabara_> ali1234: when I install I just tell it that /home is where it is, and things work automagically?
[03:29] <ali1234> Ayabara_: yes
[03:30] <itstaff> hi all what command should I use to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu
[03:30] <bulmer> gripner: and then do the  package update
[03:30] <gripner> bulmer: is the SDK same as the jdk nowdays?
[03:30] <dyrne> clive: yah like: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[03:30] <Ayabara_> ali1234: great. thanks
[03:30] <wols> Ayabara_: no. you need the account recreated too
[03:30] <bulmer> gripner: yes jdk is now sdk
[03:30] <Ayabara_> wols, by just using the same name?
[03:30] <neozen> hey skul.... head to #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help
[03:30] <tabbot> ali1234: oru u can specify it in your /etc/fstab
[03:30] <wols> Ayabara_: yes
[03:30] <mike1o> trouble scanning from my multi-function printer
[03:30] <alitrix> how to cleanup the MBR in linux?
[03:30] <Crazytom> javaJake, i really would like to watch
[03:30] <alitrix> in dos it would be: fdisk /mbr
[03:30] <wols> alitrix: define "clean up"
[03:30] <stefg> !kubuntu | itstaff
[03:30] <ubotu> itstaff: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:30] <javaJake> Crazytom, join the channel #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help
[03:31] <alitrix> wols: lets say, the same as dos does with fdisk :)
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: reinstall your bootloader
[03:35] <Wanderer> Is there a 'feisty' specific channel?
[03:35] <ali1234> Ayabara_: yeah just adduser <your username> then press enter a few times if the homedir is in the default /home/<username>
[03:35] <alitrix> no, i dont want the bootloader :)
[03:35] <Wanderer> I have a font problem that appears to be specific to my feisty box
[03:35] <stefg> !feisty
[03:35] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:35] <alitrix> that's why I want to "clean up" =)
[03:35] <bulmer> alitrix: clean up as in any bytes on those first 512 byte position?
[03:35] <Wanderer> thanks
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: that's what fdisk/mbr does howerver
[03:35] <swany> can anyone help me with my soundcard problem? the sblive platinum (live drive II) is constantly looping any sound from it
[03:35] <alitrix> bulmer: so , dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[03:35] <alitrix> should work fine?
[03:35] <swany> and its slowing down the desktop to a crawl
[03:35] <gary_> Does anyone know w hat this means when trying "./configure": checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:35] <bulmer> alitrix:  yes and it would not be bootable then
[03:35] <skuld> Did I lose you guys?
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: it will kill ALL your partitions. the disk will appear blank
[03:35] <alitrix> oh :s
[03:35] <neozen> skuld: we're all in another channel
[03:35] <alitrix> oke, so how to rebuild the MBR to make it go to windows (or the first bootable partition?)
[03:35] <neozen> skuld: waiting for you
[03:35] <nugenoa> What do you type in console to find your gnome version?
[03:35] <Pici> !buildessential | gary_
[03:35] <javaJake> skuld, you there? :)
[03:35] <Rooy> anyone know how to detect keysym of a key? ie my right winkey isn't Super
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <neozen> skuld: #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help (private channel)
[03:35] <ravi_master> skuld
[03:35] <reduzuin> QUESTION: I upgraded to Ubuntu 6.10, and I can't ctrl-alt+ and ctrl-alt- to change screen res (zoom)!! Also I canlt ctrl-alt-f1/2/3/4 to go to a textmode console! How do I fix this? (hint this is a builtin command of xfree86/xorg and has been there in any linux distro for the past 15 years)
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: run windows/dos and do fdisk/mbr or fixmbr
[03:35] <javaJake> !buildessentials
[03:35] <Pici> gary_: Install the build-essential package
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <javaJake> !build-essentials
[03:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:35] <javaJake> Aha
[03:35] <wols> !build-essential
[03:35] <alitrix> I cant get into windows anymore, cause GRUB trys to run my linux partition
[03:35] <alitrix> but I removed the linux partition
[03:35] <alitrix> so grub is looking to a "empty" partition
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: boot from your windows CD
[03:35] <itstaff> please I am sure you know what command to use to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, just spend 5 secs to write it
[03:35] <stefg> itstaff: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <stefg> but this won't remove gnome
[03:35] <gripner> balmer: im DLing java EE 5 with jdk, its a bin file, gues it needs to be converted to a deb file ?
[03:35] <gripner> !java
[03:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:35] <ali1234> alitrix: at the grub prompt, rootnoverify (hd0,0)<enter> chainloader +1<enter> boot<enter>
[03:35] <swany> can anyone help me with my soundcard problem? the sblive platinum (live drive II) is constantly looping any sound from it
[03:37] <alitrix> ali1234: well, I can't get the boot menu , so I cant get in the grub prompt anymore
[03:37] <lelik> hi, alll..  I have a question: I accidently deleted timezone info for my region: Asia/Seoul (/usr/share/timezone/Asia/Seoul). What packet should I reinstall to restore this file?
[03:37] <niru> hello all
[03:37] <Rooy> lelik: try tzinfo
[03:37] <Rooy> lelik: sorry, tzdata
[03:40] <stefg> !info tzdata
[03:40] <ubotu> tzdata: Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data. In component main, is required. Version 2007b-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[03:40] <ali1234> alitrix: you installed grub into the active partition instead of mbr? okay, just boot dos/knoppix and set the active partition to windows drive
[03:40] <tabbot> +e tabbot
[03:40] <lelik> Rooy: no such package... I tried... I use 6.06 :-(
[03:40] <swany> can anyone help me with my soundcard problem? the sblive platinum (live drive II) is constantly looping any sound from it
[03:40] <amayera> I wanted to ask if it is planned for usplash to support cryptsetup so one can enter his dmcrypt passphrase while still seeing the nice uslpash screen and not the console?
[03:40] <Rooy> lelik: libc6 in dapper stores tzinfo
[03:40] <Rooy> lelik: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ helpful for searching
[03:40] <Toma-> how do you change the 404 page in thttpd?
[03:40] <alitrix> ali1234: no, I installed grub on /dev/hda, and /boot/grub/* was on /dev/hdaxx
[03:40] <alitrix> I removed formatted /dev/hdaxx, everytime I reboot, grub try's to axx it
[03:40] <ali1234> swany: sudo killall esdalitrix: then you should still be able to access the grub prompt
[03:40] <ali1234> oops :/
[03:40] <alitrix> cause the menu.lst is there, but that isn't possible, cause that partition is empty now
[03:41] <ali1234> alitrix: you dont need that menu.lst to boot from grub. you can just manually type the commands
[03:41] <alitrix> hm, k
[03:41] <alitrix> let me try again then
[03:41] <swany> esdalitrix: no process killed
[03:45] <ali1234> alitrix: i did exactly the same thing accidentally about 5 days ago :)
[03:45] <lelik> Rooy: THank.. I'll try to find it there... That's exactly what I need..
[03:45] <ali1234> swany: i was trying to say killall esd
[03:45] <ali1234> swany: but i dont think that will be a permanent solution
[03:45] <swany> its still looping
[03:45] <ali1234> swany: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[03:45] <davin> Hi. I installed Edgy py pressing F6 'Other Options' because my mouse/keyboard wouldnt work normally. Now I installed it but they dont work because these 'other options' arent added on startup. I cannot see see the boot options fully, help?
[03:45] <swany> command not found
[03:45] <lugod> davin: what kind of mouse and keyboard do you have? usb?
[03:45] <alitrix> ali1234: I can't get in the prompt
[03:45] <alitrix> GRUB Loading stage1.5
[03:45] <alitrix> GRUB loading, please wait....
[03:45] <alitrix> Error 22
[03:45] <alitrix> then the cursor stays there, I tryed 'e' and 'b'
[03:45] <davin> lugod a wireless CANYON Multimedia set.My wired PS/2 Compaq keyboard works, but I tried the Compaq wireless mouse and it also only works with 'Other Options'
[03:45] <alitrix> but no command prompt :s
[03:45] <ali1234> alitrix: then you have hosed it. just get a bootdisk of any kind
[03:45] <ali1234> cd or floppy. anything will do
[03:45] <blackbart> Where can I find what is different between the desktop and server versions of Ubuntu?
[03:45] <davin> lugod It would work if I knew what the boot options were of the 'F6 Other Options'-thing on the Live CD and added them to GRUB
[03:45] <Rooy> blackbart: the server edition installs only barebone, so people can add only what they want to use
[03:45] <dyrne> blackbart: kernel is different other than that i think its just a stripped desktop install
[03:45] <davin> lugod hard to explain
[03:46] <Pici> blackbart: see the "Whats the difference" part of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[03:46] <ali1234> alitrix: in a push you could even pull the HD and put it in another machine to reset the active partition and maybe mbr
[03:46] <lugod> davin: ok. you should be able to look at the grub menu.lst on the installer CD-ROM and get the options you need from there
[03:46] <swany> sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa: command not found
[03:46] <davin> lugod when the livecd starts up you can press F1-F6 for several options (language, keyset, resolution etc.) when you press F6 some boot options are added, but I can only see 4 of them because it is too long
[03:46] <alitrix> ali1234: I have a kubuntu dvd here, is there a way to the windows hd from it?
[03:46] <davin> lugod brilliant idea
[03:46] <alitrix> there is a option 'Boot from first hard disk', but that puts me back in the grub situation
[03:47] <davin> lugod I have to mount the CD though, and im on it...
[03:47] <ali1234> alitrix: look for the option that gives you a basic grub prompt
[03:47] <bulmer> alitrix: you go ahead until it is fully boot'ed and then manually mount the partitions you like access to
[03:47] <CharlieC`> is anyone else having issue with synaptic and archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:47] <cbx33> hi all
[03:47] <davin> lugod should I boot into text mode from my hard disk install and gedit the CD?
[03:47] <lugod> davin: cool
[03:47] <cbx33> no one managed to grab linuxMCE
[03:47] <roliex> alguien habala espaol
[03:47] <alitrix> bulmer: and then?
[03:47] <Pici> !se | roliex
[03:47] <ubotu> roliex: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[03:47] <lugod> davin: should just be able to mount it and look inside without any reboot
[03:47] <Pici> !es | roliex
[03:47] <cbx33> before digg killed the bandwidth
[03:47] <ubotu> roliex: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:47] <davin> lugod im not sure if I can mount the CD if I am using it right now
[03:48] <bulmer> alitrix: you follow me right?  boot all the way and mount?
[03:48] <alitrix> boot kubuntu u mean?
[03:48] <lugod> davin: youre booted from livecd right now?
[03:48] <CharlieC`> where can I find a "typical" sources.list?
[03:48] <davin> lugod yes
[03:48] <CharlieC`> (for edgy)
[03:48] <davin> lugod so im not sure if I can mount it
[03:48] <lugod> davin: hmm
[03:48] <roliex> ok
[03:48] <davin> lugod I can boot into text mode though
[03:48] <bulmer> alitrix: yes boot all the way, then you can mount any file system it can recognize via  mount command
[03:48] <LadyNikon> hmm i noticed a guy talking about how edgy booted rather slowly on his laptop
[03:48] <davin> lugod from my hard disk
[03:48] <LadyNikon> i am starting to see similar things
[03:48] <cbx33> i hate what digg can do to a site....
[03:48] <stomose> hgbg
[03:48] <davin> brb then
[03:48] <LadyNikon> didnt have this problem with 6.06
[03:48] <grayman> ray
[03:49] <swany> i only use my pc for movies and tunes now which is why i was going to use ubuntu but noone seems to know why the sound isn't working properly :(
[03:49] <lugod> davin: do you have about 700 Mb free on HD that you can use temporarily?
[03:49] <cbx33> if anyone has linuxmce iso, that'd be awesome
[03:49] <CharlieC`> swany: what sound card?
[03:49] <alitrix> bulmer: yes, but what can I do with it then? cause I want to boot the windows partition (or "clean up" the MBR to make it boot to the first-bootable partition)
[03:49] <swany> soundblaster live platinum (with live drive II)
[03:49] <CapaH> Wow CNN is heartless! "Global Pandemic Flu which may kill 2.2 million *Could cause a recession!*"
[03:49] <CharlieC`> soundblaster support is always bad IMO
[03:49] <hylje> people dont care about people dying en masse
[03:49] <lugod> davin: or copy of ISO image of live cd on HD?
[03:50] <gioacchino> hello
[03:50] <strugart> hi
[03:50] <Yggdrasil> are the feisty repos generaly slower
[03:50] <gioacchino> anyone know how to add system service
[03:50] <broady> hello
[03:50] <soundray> gioacchino: what service do you want to add?
[03:50] <bulmer> alitrix: it was not clear as to what your goal was to me at first..so you yeah you can boot all the way in linux and then fix the mbr ..i dont know the steps off hand, you may need to google for it
[03:50] <lugod> gioacchino: do mean like a server (web server, file server, etc)?
[03:50] <swany> so i should just give up and go and reinstall windows then?
[03:51] <roliex> dios
[03:51] <roliex> alguien que hable espaol
[03:51] <Toma-> swany: whats happening or not happening with your sound?
[03:51] <michaelpo> what is a good lightweight photo editor like ms photo editor?
[03:51] <ravi_master> neozen, you there?
[03:51] <gepatino> roliex: #ubuntu-es
[03:51] <bulmer> no hablamos espanoles
[03:51] <ravi_master> need that channel again, got side-tracked
[03:51] <lugod> davin: ok, booting into text mode from HD sounds easiest.
[03:51] <alitrix> bulmer: well, I want to get back to my windows partition, by putty the MBR default (like fdisk /mbr does in DOS), but I dont have axx to dos or windows
[03:52] <alitrix> and on internet they say I have to use the 'dd' command, to cleanup the MBR
[03:52] <CharlieC`> no one else having issues with archive.ubunut-com in their sources.list? Strange.,
[03:52] <soundray> swany: if that's what you want to do, then yes. But if you care to repeat the problem description before you go ahead, I'll have a shot at helping you.
 gioacchino: do mean like a server (web server, file server, etc)? too
[03:52] <alitrix> but u mentioned to me , if I do the 'dd' command, the HD wont boot anymore and it will look it's empty
[03:52] <CharlieC`> swany: did you mess with the alsa mixer?
[03:52] <gioacchino> lugod: I want to add midi syntetizer and bridge configurator
[03:52] <CharlieC`> swany: sometimes sound is turned off by default ....
[03:53] <gioacchino> It must run on startup some command...
[03:53] <swany> well my sb live (with live drive II) is looping all sounds constantly
[03:53] <lugod> gioacchino: I don't know anything about midi :(
[03:53] <swany> like a scratched cd
[03:53] <Allstarz> hi
[03:53] <Crescendo__> I'm trying to organize my MP3 collection.  Can anyone help with this idea:  If I could find a tool that would match my MP3 tags with last.fm, and move all the ones that didn't have a match into like, another folder, that would cut my work in half.
[03:53] <lugod> gioacchino: is the bridge an ethernet bridge?
[03:53] <bulmer> alitrix yes dd to put byrtes into those 1st 512 positions, what gets written there must be the correct bytes for your system to reboot in the particular OS, putting random bytes in there will not make it boot
[03:53] <gioacchino> lugod:  but the problem isn't midi the problem is add command at startup..
[03:53] <swany> it gets through them but takes like a minute for a 3 sec track
 gioacchino: is the bridge an ethernet bridge? yes
[03:53] <soundray> swany: have you tried different players?
[03:53] <Alam_Ubuntu> Crescendo__, MusicBrainz Picard
[03:54] <gepatino> Crescendo__: not shure, but maybe easytag could help
[03:54] <bulmer> alitrix: i dont remember exact steps, you have to google for tutorials on recovering MBR
[03:54] <swany> does it with everything including the startup sound
[03:54] <Crescendo__> gepatino, easytag is too complicated, tag tool works better too - it's what I've been using
[03:54] <lugod> gioacchino: if you need a program started when the machine boots, you need a script added to /etc/init.d/
[03:54] <soundray> swany: which players have you tried?
[03:54] <alitrix> been looking for some, but they mention fdisk /mbr (dos) or the dd thing
[03:54] <Crescendo__> Alam_Ubuntu, is that in the repos, or do you have a link?
[03:54] <swany> movie player xmms
[03:54] <ubuntugeek> !automatix
[03:54] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:55] <lugod> gioacchino: there are also startup programs for GNOME
[03:55] <bulmer> alitrix: yeah use the dd thing
[03:55] <dyrne> !grub > alitrix
[03:55] <dimebar> Crescendo__: or Ex Falso (which gets installed with Quod Libet I think)
[03:55] <ubuntugeek> !WorksForMe
[03:55] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:55] <soundray> swany: which backend did you configure in xmms?
[03:55] <Alam_Ubuntu> Crescendo__, http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardLinuxInstall#head-5f60c040c32c67c304b335181b88678ad34149c2
[03:55] <alitrix> bulmer: k, but how can I go back to the windows partition after it?
[03:55] <swany> backend?
[03:55] <lugod> gioacchino: GNOME startup programs are started when you log in; they are configured under session preferences
[03:55] <Crescendo__> dimebar, I've not had much luck with ex falso either - does it support last.fm matching?
[03:55] <evoxy> does ubuntu come with xgl by default?
[03:55] <Crescendo__> Alam_Ubuntu, thanks
[03:55] <Rooy> evoxy: no, and join #ubuntu-effects for more info
[03:56] <soundray> swany: in the options, you can set ALSA, OSS, ESD and other sound output backends. Try them one by one.
[03:56] <CharlieC`> swany: if it happens with the startup sound then its not the player config I think.
[03:56] <bulmer> alitrix: getting back to the windows partition and booting to a windows are two different things, one you can mount windows partition in linux to be read, the other you really need to have the mbr+boot loader fixed
[03:56] <gioacchino> I use kubuntu
[03:56] <swany> yeah its doing it with the startup sound too
[03:56] <gioacchino> lugod:  I use kubuntu
[03:56] <xfab> hi there
[03:56] <bulmer> alitrix: its the second part..i cant recall exact specific steps
[03:57] <soundray> CharlieC`: it would still be useful to see if it happens with different backends (swany)
[03:57] <lugod> gioacchino: KDE has an equivalent, in the KDE control center
[03:57] <alitrix> k, well I'm going to try look again for some howto's on internet
[03:57] <CharlieC`> swany: it took me months to get my soudn working. fortunately it wasnt a big issue. good luck. do stick with  it and delve in google.
[03:57] <CharlieC`> swany, play with the alsa mixer.
[03:57] <evoxy> how do i change my resolution?
[03:57] <CharlieC`> alsa is the way forward in ubunut.
[03:57] <xfab> I compiled an new kernel an ticked or unticked about 20 features to optimize the kernel, but now there kernel hangs at booting
[03:58] <gioacchino> lugod:  I'm in the kde control center in the session manager how to add command to exexcute on startup ?
[03:58] <soundray> CharlieC`: what swany describes is not a mixer problem.
[03:58] <dimebar> Crescendo__: ah, don't think so.  easytag may be more advanced for stuff like that but I'm not an expert
[03:58] <xfab> could somebody take a look at the optimizations, perhaps that you see the troubling feature?
[03:58] <Toma-> swany: try playing a sound with aplay in the terminal?
[03:58] <evoxy> what's the difference between aiglx and xgl?
[03:58] <lugod> gioacchino: unfortunately i don't have KDE here :(
[03:58] <Yggdrasil> are the feisty repos generaly slower
[03:59] <soundray> Yggdrasil: no, they are the same servers
[03:59] <xfab> evoxy: aiglx is built in in Edgy and XGL is a seperated package of software
[03:59] <CharlieC`> soundray: it was for me.
[03:59] <Toma-> xfab: you wont notice any difference in optimizing the kernel over the standard ubuntu one.
[03:59] <Yggdrasil> hmmm its dragggin....
[03:59] <evoxy> xfab:which is better?
[03:59] <lugod> I have a problem right now: fonts are really ugly in Tk applications. I'm getting scaled fixed-size fonts instead of scalable fonts beong used by default for menus, dialog boxes, etc. Any ideas? The problem does not occur on Debian Sarge
[03:59] <soundray> CharlieC`: you had looping sounds because of a mixer setting?
[03:59] <swany> how do i use aplay?
[04:00] <xfab> Toma-: how do you mean? I followed the instructions in the ubuntuusers-forum to optmize the kernel, they say that it would get more responsiv
[04:00] <Toma-> lugod: have you compiled your TK app with 8.5?
[04:00] <soundray> swany: please follow my suggestion before you tackle Toma-'s
[04:00] <swany> k
[04:00] <xfab> evoxy: If AIGLX is supported by your graficcard, use it
[04:00] <Crazytom> how can i get my computer to check for a new wireless card?  it was turned off when i booted up
[04:00] <Toma-> xfab: like 0.02 seconds faster :D
[04:00] <swany> anyprogram that deals with sound seems to lock up for a bit though
[04:00] <soundray> swany: unless you don't value my suggestions, in which case I'll help someone else.
[04:00] <jay> AlienWare says /dev/dsp is broken and I have no sound
[04:00] <xfab> evoxy: XGL hasn't got that much performance
[04:00] <jay> how can i fix that?
[04:00] <evoxy> xfab: is there a list for supported ones?
[04:00] <Toma-> soundray: wouldnt aplay show that alsa can play a sound easier?
[04:00] <bulmer> Crazytom: you must turn it on!
[04:01] <swany> i'm still waiting for xmms to load :S
[04:01] <xfab> evoxy: which graficcard do you possess?
[04:01] <lugod> Toma-: tk8.4 is the only version of tk I have installed
[04:01] <Crazytom> i did now i want ubuntu to find it
[04:01] <Toma-> lugod: yeh, tk8.4 doesnt support xft so it looks butt-ugly.
[04:01] <evoxy> it's not for me
[04:02] <evoxy> and i don't know what my friend had
[04:02] <Toma-> lugod: what tk app are you running? is it amsn?
[04:02] <evoxy> s
[04:02] <alitrix> bulmer & ali1234 , tnx for the help
[04:02] <bulmer> Crazytom: can you prefix your responses with a nick so we dont miss your directed responses
[04:02] <xfab> Toma-: would mind to take a short look over the thread? (even if there's not much difference to it)
[04:02] <Toma-> xfab: sure!
[04:02] <alitrix> I found a windows xp setup CD somewhere hre =)
[04:02] <bulmer> alitrix: no problem, come again
[04:02] <soundray> swany: xmms should not take more than a couple of seconds to load.
[04:02] <alitrix> went to Repair mode, runned fixmbr
[04:02] <xfab> Toma-: cool, it would be the link in this thread: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/81107/
[04:02] <alitrix> and all worked fine :)
[04:02] <swany> i know but as i say anything dealing with sound takes ages to load
[04:02] <Crazytom> bulmer, i did now i want ubuntu to find it
[04:02] <swany> including the mixer application
[04:03] <xfab> evoxy: hmm.. I'll google a moment for it, I think there's a list
[04:03] <lugod> Toma-: grass 6.2 and own scripts wrtieen in ruby-tk
[04:03] <swany> i have a pentium D 2.66 with 1gb ram so it isn't the proccessor speed thats the problem :)
[04:03] <Toma-> swany: run xmms from a terminal and see the debugging code?
[04:03] <soundray> swany: can you open a terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' to see if any errors are logged?
[04:03] <cubex> hello everyone
[04:03] <bulmer> Crazytom: look for it with dmesg, lspci, lshw  one of these will tell you if its there and recognized
[04:03] <Toma-> lugod: ahh ok. you can find tk/tcl packages of 8.5 and the -dev stuff from google or the forums
[04:03] <neozen> alright..... we're taking him through it
[04:03] <cubex> could you tell me how to turn off scim in gnome?
[04:03] <cubex> i've looked everywhere!
[04:04] <neozen> skuld's going to be just fine
[04:04] <neozen> lol
[04:04] <skuld> *her
[04:04] <Crazytom> bulmer, i know that it's not recognised.  how to i get the computer to look for it without rebooting?
[04:04] <swany> no errors appear i only see dhcp things
[04:04] <bulmer> Crazytom: you used dmesg and tells you none?
[04:04] <Crescendo__> Alam_Ubuntu, I think you're officially my hero for the day. :)
[04:04] <soundray> swany: I think Toma- is keen to take over from me.
[04:04] <Toma-> just suggesting
[04:05] <Toma-> sheesh ill be quiet then
[04:05] <fqh> if someone mind my free chat in here?
[04:05] <soundray> Toma-: no, it's fine
[04:05] <jay> AlienWare says /dev/dsp is broken and I have no sound
[04:05] <Crazytom> bulmer, i used ndiswrapper -l right after i installed the driver and it doesn't say hardware present
[04:05] <cubex> please?
[04:05] <evoxy> is there a way to change the resolution through a gui?
[04:05] <ikonia_> cubex what
[04:05] <soundray> Toma-: there's no point two of us pulling in different directions, though
[04:05] <bulmer> Crazytom: you used dmesg and tells you none?  <-- recognized by your system?
[04:05] <swany> i'd like it if i can get it to work :) not bothered who helps me :)
[04:05] <cubex> i want to disable scim without removing the package
[04:05] <ikonia_> evoxy yes - use system-preferences --> display
[04:06] <lugod> Toma-: any way to fix tk8.4 to at least use a decent font by default? with x resources maybe?
[04:06] <Randall> Hello. my graphical login screen for dapper must be corrupted and every time I login it keeps throwing me back to the login screen, how can I set my ubuntu up to start up always in terminal mode instead of graphical login screen?
[04:06] <swany> something is using 100% of one of my cpus
[04:06] <cubex> ikonia, i couldn't find anything
[04:06] <xfab> evoxy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIGLX#Deployments
[04:06] <ikonia_> Randall change the default init
[04:06] <Toma-> soundray: if xmms is not loading at all, itll be a composite bug and XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VUUALS needs to be passed. also the terminal oputput from xmms can show alsa problems
[04:06] <ikonia_> Randall init level
[04:06] <soundray> swany: what's that? Find out with 'top'
[04:06] <Crazytom> bulmer, dmesg doesn't say anything about it
[04:06] <evoxy> thanks xfab
[04:06] <lugod> Randall: easiest way is to  deinstall gdm and kdm
[04:06] <cubex> ikonia, i know it's scim-lanucher and scim-panel-gtk that are resident, but i couldn't find where they are started
[04:06] <bulmer> cubex: you maybe able to turn off the daemon for it
[04:06] <Randall> right now its defualt 0 in menu.lst
[04:06] <xfab> evoxy: your welcome :)
[04:11] <soundray> swany: stick with Toma-, he's clearly got more of a handle on your problem.
[04:11] <Crazytom> bulmer, please just tell me the command.  is it modprobe or something?
[04:11] <Toma-> :S
[04:11] <swany> xmms is using 100%
[04:11] <bulmer> Crazytom: then whatever you did with ndiswrapper did not load the modules
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: for me, they are only started when i select a program's input method to be scim
[04:11] <Toma-> swany: did you run xmms from a terminal?
[04:11] <bulmer> Crazytom: what command? for what functionality?
[04:11] <cubex> Rooy, but how do you do that?
[04:11] <Randall> ikonia: right now the default is set for 0 in the menu.lst
[04:11] <swany> nope how do i do that
[04:11] <cubex> Rooy, i don't need scim, and i don't want it to live in my tray forever
[04:11] <swany> and how do i kill the current xmms that is taking 100% :)
[04:11] <Toma-> swany: open a terminal (apps > accessories > terminal) and run xmms
[04:11] <evoxy> ikonia_: how can i increase the resolution?
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: i rightclick a text field an choose Input method --> SCIM
[04:11] <evoxy> it only has 1024x768 as maximum
[04:11] <Toma-> swany: in the terminal, before runnning xmms, run 'killall xmms'
[04:11] <xfab> swany: you could use audacious instead of xmms (I think they discontinued the development of xmms)
[04:11] <CapaH> Question, In ubuntu how can I do this: I want to type just the name of a file in the shell and have the equivilent of as though I had double clicked the file in the Ubuntu GUI -- that is, I want to have the file run with whatever is associated to run that file... tips anyone?
[04:11] <shadu> evoxy: adjust the xorg.conf
[04:11] <bulmer> cubex: you maybe able to turn off the daemon for it, see if the daemon is running
[04:11] <wols> evoxy: what videochip
[04:11] <Randall> lugod: but wont that get rid of my GDM altogether? I want to still use my GDM
[04:11] <soundray> CapaH: gnome-open filename
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: when i choose another one like XIM, the tray icon disappear but the scim-* processes still continue
[04:11] <bulmer> CapaH is it an executable?
[04:11] <CapaH> excellent
[04:11] <evoxy> can i do it without hand-editing xorg.com?
[04:11] <xfab> evoxy: in gnome?
[04:11] <Toma-> xfab: all the devs are working on xmms2 actually :D also, this isnt much of a howto for compiling kernels...
[04:11] <lugod> I guess I don't understand --- don't you want to get rid of graphical login?
[04:11] <wols> evoxy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:11] <Randall> lugod: yes
[04:11] <shadu> evoxy: i did it by hand-editing.. its quite easy
[04:11] <ali1234> okay, new nic in machine, and new chassis fan, since the old one had stopped working :/
[04:11] <swany> Message: device: default
[04:11] <swany> Message: alsa mixer timed out
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: that's weird, I thought to have read that it has been discontinued
[04:11] <swany> its not playing anything in xmms
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: the problem is that there are many false statements in the internet ^^
[04:11] <shadu> !codecs
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <lugod> Randall: then I don't see the harm in deinstalling gdm
[04:11] <cubex> Rooy, is it turned on by default with ubuntu?
[04:11] <Toma-> woo no mixer device. go go udev
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: yea, the site just contains optimizations
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: no, afaik
[04:11] <ali1234> awesome 100kB/s
[04:11] <laptop> What does backported mean?
[04:11] <Toma-> xfab: indeed :D this looks like it was written on the 23rd of june last year....
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: you've got an idea which feature could be cause of the hang up?
[04:11] <apokryphos> laptop: /msg ubotu backport
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: :D
[04:11] <cubex> Rooy, ok. i'll try going to init 3 and see if scim's still working
[04:11] <laptop> seriously
[04:11] <Randall> lugod: how do I uninstall it? and does that mean I wont be able to use the GUI for ubunut?
[04:11] <Toma-> xfab: make sure you disable splash and quiet from your grub boot option and you should at least get a kernel panic
[04:11] <cubex> thanks everyone. i appreciate the tips
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: you want to remove scim's icon or scim ?
[04:11] <soundray> laptop: /msg ubotu backport (seriously)
[04:11] <laptop> it asks if I want proposed or backported updates
[04:11] <evoxy> xfab: how would i enable aiglx?
[04:11] <soundray> laptop: for most purposes, you do want them
[04:12] <swany> nope its not playing anything at all xmms
[04:12] <xfab> Toma-: I did that, the problem is, it just hangs after initializing the USB-Keyboard, no kernel panic
[04:12] <laptop> ubotu doesnt know
[04:12] <lugod> Toma-: i;'ve found tcl8.5 packages here: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/3v1n0/ i'm trying those now
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesnt know - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <laptop> is it past builds of an item?
[04:12] <Pici> laptop: Its new builds
[04:12] <soundray> !backports | laptop
[04:12] <ubotu> laptop: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:12] <xfab> evoxy: it's enabled by default
[04:12] <Toma-> lugod: i use that repo too. good stuff.
[04:12] <xfab> evoxy: but just in edgy I think
[04:12] <laptop> oh
[04:12] <laptop> so what is "proposed"?
[04:12] <soundray> laptop: sorry about the missing plural s
[04:12] <evoxy> xfab: is edgy 6.06?
[04:13] <xfab> evoxy: In previous versions AIGLX isn't implemented and doesn't work very well though
[04:13] <xfab> evoxy: 6.10
[04:13] <evoxy> oh k
[04:13] <Toma-> swany: whats the result of "lspci | grep Audio" ?
[04:13] <laptop> Do I want proposed, or does that mean they are in Alpha?
[04:13] <lugod> Randall: deinstalling gdm will just get rid of graphcal login, but you will still be able to start gui with startx
[04:13] <soundray> laptop: "proposed" means that there is a package that has been backported, but no consensus has been reached (yet) on whether the update is essential.
[04:14] <laptop> Proposed mean alpha?
[04:14] <laptop> ahhh interesting
[04:14] <laptop> so proposed is not advisable to a noob, like me
[04:14] <swany> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 70)
[04:14] <swany> 02:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller
[04:14] <Rooy> laptop: not noob-or-not, but adventurous-or-not :)
[04:14] <Randall> lugod: is gdm the service for GNOME desktop or just the login... cuz I will uninstall as your instructing but I dont want to lose whats in my home folder under the desktop...
[04:15] <laptop> haha got it
[04:15] <laptop> I am not adventurous, dont know how to be yet
[04:15] <AaronCampbell> I'm going to be setting up a new Kubuntu system.  I'm planning on using a software raid (level 5) for most things (I have 5 500G drives...I'm not sure if I'll use them all, or just 3 of them), but I'm wondering if I should try to install on the raid?  Or just install on a seperate HDD, and mount the raid at /home.  Also, how does (K)Ubuntu do with raid 5?  Can it handle 5 drives?
[04:15] <lugod> Randall: gdm is just login screen
[04:16] <xfab> Toma-: the problem is that the kernel compiled well, when I leave out those "optimizations"
[04:16] <ikonia_> xfab what optimisations are you using with the kerenl
[04:16] <ikonia_> kernel
[04:16] <xfab> Toma-: so it must be one of them that crashs the kernel
[04:16] <lugod> Randall: deinstalling it won't take away GUI or home directory
[04:16] <swany> i tried audacity and it plays the file like a stuck cd too then locks up at the end for a bit
[04:16] <Randall> lugod: Ive never uninstalled anything in Lunux do I do it from terminal? any suggestions
[04:17] <Toma-> xfab: the thing about optimizations are, theyre not really noticable in real world situations, in general.
[04:17] <ikonia_> xfab its not meant to be optimised - its hard to build with optimisations properly
[04:17] <xfab> ikonia_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1174954&postcount=507
[04:17] <lugod> Randall: sudo aptitude remove gdm
[04:17] <soundray> AaronCampbell: IMO it's best to set up a root partition outside the RAID, since it's easier to fix if you should have problems. Yes, five drives should be okay.
[04:17] <ikonia_> xfab read this line Warning: Some of these tips may cause your kernel to not compile properly. Use them at you own risk.
[04:17] <Randall> lugod: thank you for all your help Im gonna take a crack at it right now.
[04:17] <muh-die-1uh> is there a chance that xorg 7.3 will be backported to 7.04?
[04:17] <xfab> Toma-: Perhaps you're right, but it was a good experience to compile a kernel ^^
[04:17] <ikonia_> xfab if you don't know what your doing, leave them well alone
[04:18] <ikonia_> muh-die-1uh backported to 7.04 ??
[04:18] <AaronCampbell> Maybe I'll just install on a seperate 120G drive that I have, and then add the 5 drives as an array
[04:18] <Toma-> xfab: in my experiences, its been nothing but a PITA :D
[04:18] <muh-die-1uh> ikonia_: ubuntu 7.04
[04:18] <xfab> Toma-: what's a PITA? ^^
[04:18] <ikonia_> muh-die-1uh whats currently in 7.04
[04:18] <soundray> xfab: pain in the arm
[04:18] <ikonia_> xfab kernel optimisations - unless you know what your doing
[04:19] <muh-die-1uh> ikonia_: dont know, i _guess_ 7.2
[04:19] <ikonia_> muh-die-1uh how about checking before asking
[04:19] <muh-die-1uh> ikonia_: 7.2
[04:19] <xfab> soundray: I see (I'm Swiss, so I'm not really familier with those expressions)
[04:19] <muh-die-1uh> ikonia_: i just wanted to check
[04:19] <ikonia_> muh-die-1uh then I guess not
[04:19] <muh-die-1uh> damn
[04:19] <soundray> AaronCampbell: I think that's a good idea.
[04:19] <xfab> ikonia_: Perhaps I just leave it out, and try another way to my system up safely
[04:20] <xfab> ikonia_: you're right though
[04:20] <Toma-> soundray: i admit defeat on the sound looping problem. would you like to proceed?
[04:20] <soundray> xfab: that's not an excuse. I'm German ;)
[04:20] <ikonia_> xfab your system up safly ?
[04:20] <xfab> soundray: ah I see ^^
[04:20] <Heroin> i unpacked a tar.. how can i move all the content of a directory into the directory which contains teh unpacked tar? i wannt move ~/site03/* to ~/*
[04:20] <xfab> ikonia_: I meant speed up ^^
[04:20] <secion8> is feisty fawn beta supposed to be available today?
[04:20] <ikonia_> xfab optimisatiosn won't speed up your machine, in some ways it can slow it down
[04:20] <soundray> Toma-: okay. What's the state of affairs now swany?
[04:21] <ikonia_>            mv site03 /
[04:21] <xfab> ikonia_: that's doesn't make sense at first
[04:21] <swany> i'm still with buggy cd scratched sound
[04:21] <ikonia_> xfab trust me it does
[04:21] <Toma-> soundray: btw, its a VIA AC97 chip. standard as butter.
[04:21] <xfab> ikonia_: I do :)
[04:21] <ali1234> how easy it is to build a custom ubuntu install disk with "my favourite packages"?
[04:21] <Heroin> ikonia thanks
[04:21] <ikonia_> ali1234 hard
[04:21] <ali1234> hmm :/
[04:21] <ikonia_> ali1234 if your in a postition to ask that - then you'll find it hard
[04:21] <rambo3> Toma-, odlest and buggiest alsa driver
[04:22] <xfab> Toma and Ikonia, thank you for your help :)
[04:22] <secion8> where can I find the beta for feisty fawn?
[04:22] <Heroin> ikonia wont that move the FOLDER site03? or will it move the contents of site03?
[04:22] <swany> i have a sblive platinum live drive II and onvoard ac97 thing
[04:22] <Rooy> !feisty
[04:22] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:22] <ikonia_> Heroin that will move the folder
[04:22] <ali1234> i just find it annoying that i have to download build-essential, subversion, etc every time
[04:22] <swany> but i dont want to use the onboard and the sblive is just not working
[04:22] <soundray> swany: under System-Preferences-Sound-Sounds, can you disable ESD (if you haven't already)
[04:22] <Toma-> xfab: np. if you want to optimise anything, remove un-needed sartup processes and daemons.
[04:22] <ikonia_> ali1234 then take backups
[04:22] <xfab> you saved me a bunch of time ;-)
[04:22] <ikonia_> Toma- now thats good advice
[04:22] <Toma-> *startup
[04:22] <ali1234> ikonia_: i like to install ubuntu on every machine i touch
[04:23] <xfab> ikonia_: there's a programm for that right?
[04:23] <ikonia_> ali1234 errr great, then build a sync server
[04:23] <ikonia_> xfab no - you do that
[04:23] <ali1234> often the machines have no internet access
[04:23] <Toma-> xfab: 'bum' is one...
[04:23] <swany> ok
[04:23] <ali1234> or network of any kind
[04:23] <ikonia_> ali1234 then build a sync server
[04:23] <xfab> Toma-: ok
[04:23] <ikonia_> ali1234 or put the packages on a cd and install from cd
[04:23] <soundray> swany: in the same dialog, make sure the SB Live is selected as the Default sound card
[04:23] <comoddor1> need help!!!
[04:23] <swany> it is
[04:23] <ikonia_> comoddor1 with what
[04:23] <xfab> Toma-: I'll google a bit
[04:23] <soundray> swany: was ESD selected?
[04:24] <comoddor1> anyone knows the command to view my windows hard drive name in linux
[04:24] <swany> it was
[04:24] <Toma-> xfab: yeh. "ubuntu startup process faster bum" :P
[04:24] <comoddor1> /dev/????
[04:24] <ikonia_> comoddor1 man mount and read the wiki
[04:24] <soundray> swany: restart audacity and see if anything has changed pls
[04:24] <swany> just did
[04:24] <comoddor1> nono
[04:24] <swany> no change
[04:24] <dyrne> comoddor1: you mean sudo fdisk -l  ?
[04:24] <comoddor1> i want to view the NAME of the disk
[04:24] <ikonia_> dyrne no he doesn't
[04:24] <dyrne> comoddor1: oh the volume
[04:24] <ikonia_> comoddor1 you should know the device id of the disk
[04:25] <soundray> swany: okay. Have you tried disabling the onboard sound in the BIOS setup?
[04:25] <swany> yes
[04:25] <swany> makes no difference
[04:25] <Rooy> comoddor1: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label
[04:25] <comoddor1> if i see the complete list of all drives  i can remember
[04:25] <comoddor1> how can i list all names of my drives?
[04:25] <laptop> Which chat program is the equivalent to mIRC in windows
[04:25] <ikonia_> comoddor1 ls -la /dev - thats the complete list of devices including drives
[04:25] <laptop> Im using Konversation but it is limited
[04:25] <ikonia_> laptop xchat is closest
[04:25] <Rooy> comoddor1: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label
[04:25] <dyrne> laptop: xchat is prb what you want
[04:25] <Rooy> laptop: try xchat
[04:25] <laptop> it wont let me connect to multiple servers
[04:26] <laptop> okay
[04:26] <ikonia_> laptop I don't think xchat will either
[04:26] <laptop> Thank you
[04:26] <soundray> swany: could you paste the output from 'lsmod' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:26] <ali1234> laptop: gaim can connect to multiple servers
[04:26] <Rooy> ikonia: xchat does
[04:26] <Toma-> doesnt sblive use emu10k? or something
[04:26] <secion8> rooy, Beta is scheduled for today, You know if it is on schedule?
[04:26] <ikonia_> Rooy does it, I'll have to check that as thats always been a gripe
[04:26] <soundray> Toma-: I want to see if there are competing modules
[04:27] <comoddor1> no solution
[04:27] <comoddor1> it is a sata disk
[04:27] <xfab> just a last question, would you guys recommend installing INITNG?
[04:27] <comoddor1> ikonia?
[04:27] <Toma-> soundray: ok :D im just really confused. ill sit here and watch :D
[04:27] <Rooy> ikonia: the default setup has lots of servers listed, but adding new one requires a trip to preference though
[04:28] <coffeegrindah> I'm having troubles formatting a USB stick.. I get so far as partitioning and creating a fat16 partition of 800M but I cant seem to get the 2nd parion working.. (ext2)
[04:28] <Rooy> secion8: no idea about that
[04:28] <swany> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11506/
[04:28] <swany> done
[04:31] <dyrne> comoddor1: mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1    where sda1 is whatever partition.  does that not work?
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: would you recommend the use of INITNG?
[04:31] <dyrne> comoddor1: sudo of course
[04:31] <Toma-> xfab: i would. but, upstart its just as quick... nearly
[04:31] <secion8> Ok, Anyone else know?
[04:31] <Toma-> xfab: i used initng on my dapper and earlier installs. ive got it on a pentium 2 266mhz and it boots under 20 secs
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: ok, I'm using dapper though
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: cool :)
[04:31] <Toma-> *nod* :D
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: well, then I'll install that *hrhr*
[04:31] <Toma-> xfab: it again is a bit of a pain, but really worth it once everything is set and ready
[04:31] <duncan_> nnms
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: I'll just look for a good tutorial, then it should be possible (even though I'm not really experienced with linux
[04:31] <lugod> Toma-: is initng an alternative to upstart and sysvinit?
[04:32] <xfab> lugod: yes
[04:32] <Toma-> lugod: yes.
[04:32] <duncan_> anyone know where I can get a copy of LinuxMCE?
[04:32] <soundray> swany: let's see if removing and reinserting the top-level driver modules results in any error messages:
[04:35] <swany> ok .... :)
[04:37] <Toma-> its incredibly fast. only problem is its alot different to the old system so people wont be able to change to it easily.
[04:37] <_3dc> #bash could help me with my bash-problem. so thx for pointing me into the right direction. thx, and cucu
[04:37] <x86_> I think Ubuntu is the best Linux distro I have ever used and this means two things their is someting wrong with it that I dont know about or______
[04:37] <soundray> swany: 'sudo rmmod snd_emu10k1_synth ; sudo rmmod snd_emu10k1 ; sudo modprobe snd_emu10k1_synth'. Any errors?
[04:37] <Toma-> duncan_: the LinuxMCE website?
[04:37] <jcaceres> hello in am using ubuntu 6.10 about the compiler "make" i would like to know if its the same of gmake, adn inf it's not where can i get gmake
[04:37] <swany> 2 secs
[04:37] <swany> ERROR: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use
[04:37] <soundray> jcaceres: make is gmake in ubuntu
[04:37] <duncan_> Toma-:  they've been on engadget so all the bandwidth got used up, and unfortunately he doesn't have it on sourceforge
[04:37] <soundray> swany: is audacity still open?
[04:37] <Toma-> duncan_: torrent?
[04:37] <jcaceres> soundray,  thanks
[04:37] <wols> yes gmake is GNU make
[04:37] <disgrntld> im trying to setup SSH to use just keys for authentication, no logins, anyone have a good guide for this?
[04:37] <duncan_> Toma-:  havn't found one yet
[04:37] <swany> nope
[04:37] <disgrntld> i'm following this one guide i found and it isnt working, not sure what i am missing
[04:37] <skuld> OMG!  YOU GUYS ARE FAH-MAZING!
[04:37] <soundray> swany: closed the Sound Prefs dialog?
[04:37] <soundray> disgrntld: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/
[04:37] <swany> yup
[04:37] <swany> 2 windows open this and a terminal
[04:37] <Toma-> (zombie xmms?)
[04:37] <slacker_nl> disgrntld: http://www.math.ualberta.ca/imaging/snfs/passwordless.html
[04:37] <soundray> swany: 'ps aux | grep xmms' showing any zombie processes?
[04:37] <skuld> neozen ; you ROCK!
[04:37] <x86_> th
[04:37] <swany> swany     7907  0.0  0.0   3900   804 pts/2    R+   15:36   0:00 grep xmms
[04:37] <shadu> how can i see what /dev/ a unmounted harddisk is?
[04:37] <coffeegrindah> is there any reason that my usb flash drive would take forever to format to ext2 and then end up not working?
[04:37] <soundray> swany: okay, no xmms running
[04:37] <wols> shadu: dmesg
[04:37] <swany> dont see it
[04:38] <wols>  /proc/ide too
[04:38] <swany> how do i kill the proccess?
[04:38] <wols> shadu: kill what is not running?
[04:38] <soundray> swany: there is no xmms, so there's nothing to kill. (The grep xmms revealed only itself)
[04:38] <swany> k
[04:39] <lefrenchy> hi people
[04:39] <shadu> wols: well im trying to mount that harddisk.. got everything else mounted but got to do this one manually (its a sata harddisk)
[04:39] <Rooy> hi lefrenchy
[04:39] <lefrenchy> hi Rooy
[04:39] <x86_> hi
[04:39] <lefrenchy> can someone help me with nvidia/feisty?
[04:39] <wols> shadu: sorry. was a wrong nick complete. meant swany
[04:40] <swany>  sudo rmmod snd_emu10k1
[04:40] <swany> ERROR: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use
[04:40] <Mena> i can upgrade to fiesty stable from alpha right
[04:40] <Mena> and every thing wil be fine ?!
[04:40] <swany> i tried each command seperately
[04:40] <soundray> swany: 'ps aux | grep mix' showing any processes?
[04:40] <Mena> will*
[04:40] <CharlieC`> how can I upgrade my edgy to feisty?
[04:41] <swany> ps aux | grep mix
[04:41] <swany> swany     5113  0.0  1.5 135948 16320 ?        S    14:12   0:01 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=24
[04:41] <swany> swany     8051  0.0  0.0   3904   816 pts/2    S+   15:40   0:00 grep mix
[04:41] <soundray> Mena: yes. #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions please
[04:41] <Mena> ok
[04:41] <soundray> CharlieC #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions please
[04:41] <Mena> Thanks
[04:41] <lefrenchy> CharlyC: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu.html
[04:42] <shadu> wols: wohoo, got it mounted, thx :)
[04:42] <soundray> swany: 'kill 5113'
[04:42] <swany> k
[04:42] <x86_> I'm trying to figure out what is the best command to configure sound cards
[04:42] <swany> then the original command?
[04:42] <Heroin> howto save and exit a document your editing in VI?
[04:42] <erUSUL> Heroin: :wq
[04:43] <erUSUL> Heroin: in command mode
[04:43] <soundray> swany: yes
[04:43] <swany> ok its found a new device
[04:43] <swany> it did it 3 times :
[04:43] <soundray> swany: don't paste please
[04:44] <recoding> anyone help me with a GRUB problem?
[04:44] <soundray> swany: can you put it on the pastebin?
[04:44] <Dhanjel> Which tv playing software (for ivtv based card) would you recommend?
[04:44] <swany> put what ?
[04:44] <Toma-> Dhanjel: tvtime
[04:44] <Toma-> recoding: what grub problem?
[04:44] <Dhanjel> Toma-, ok, till try it, thanks.
[04:45] <Heroin> erUSUL how to enter command mode?
[04:45] <Toma-> Dhanjel: np :)
[04:45] <Heroin> i used VI like 2 years ago.. switch 2 nano and now iam back 2 vi
[04:45] <swany> lsmod?
[04:46] <swany> soundray? paste the a new lsmod?
[04:46] <erUSUL> Heroin: <Esc>  :wq <Enter>
[04:46] <recoding> Toma: it is looking for hda  (i think) i jsut get GRUB, no GRUB Loading stage2..... i have hdb, hdc & hdd, my linux is on hdd and my windows on hdc, hdb is my disc for files, and for some reason GRBU wont load for me, i got in here using a floppy disc i made from my laptop
[04:46] <swany> if so its here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11509/
[04:47] <Dhanjel> Toma-, seems to be problem with ATI based card, any other recommendations? :)
[04:50] <Toma-> Dhanjel: ...really?! ;/ umm xawtv? that can record too
[04:50] <Toma-> (its pretty ugly tho)
[04:50] <Dhanjel> Toma-, :/
[04:50] <soundray> swany: sorry, doorbell
[04:50] <swany> no prob
[04:50] <Dhanjel> Toma-, xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[04:50] <recoding> Toma-:  it is looking for hda  (i think) i jsut get GRUB, no GRUB Loading stage2..... i have hdb, hdc & hdd, my linux is on hdd and my windows on hdc, hdb is my disc for files, and for some reason GRBU wont load for me, i got in here using a floppy disc i made from my laptop
[04:50] <Hunter4242> Hello all, I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop, but I'm unable to connect to a wireless network. I'm not really sure what to do with it at this point
[04:50] <swany> did you mean me to post the new lsmod?
[04:50] <Toma-> yikes
[04:50] <soundray> swany: I meant the message about the three devices found
[04:50] <shal3r> Can i allow my user to do things like using Synaptic without entering password each time ?
[04:50] <xfab> Toma-: I got to go, I'll try out initng
[04:50] <xfab> Toma-: cu and have a nice day
[04:50] <swany> oh no it appeared on the bottom right
[04:50] <Toma-> recoding: sounds like a grub configuration problem.
[04:50] <swany> in a square boc
[04:50] <Toma-> xfab: good job :D cya
[04:50] <swany> box
[04:50] <soundray> swany: can you just retry the sound in audacity
[04:50] <swany> exactly the same :(
[04:50] <barnball> hey folks...having issues installing a printer in ubuntu....
[04:50] <soundray> shal3r: open a terminal, run 'sudo -i' and call synaptic or whatever is necessary from there
[04:50] <barnball> but according to google im not the only one lol :-D
[04:50] <soundray> swany: dang
[04:50] <recoding> Toma-: Fabulous, where do i go to fix it? i think thre is another GRUB Location, i boot from floppy disc inot the (hd1,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst and it works, i get the right menu up, but somewhere there is anoyther GRUB thats trying to load, but i dont know where
[04:50] <barnball> its a lexmark X75...
[04:50] <ddavies_> Hi.  I'm trying to install qt4 packages and have had success except that I can't find a package that provides the lib/ directory or it's contents.  Is there a package?
[04:50] <shal3r> soundray, no, user wants to launch Synaptic as always but without entering password each time
[04:50] <IgorSobreira> hey guys...i have a video .rmvb ....it plays with realplay....but there is no sound....do o need to install something else?
[04:51] <tyk12avy> hi
[04:51] <recoding> hi
[04:51] <Pici> !hi
[04:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:51] <soundray> swany: run 'dmesg' -- did the module insertion leave any traces in the last few lines?
[04:51] <recoding> cheat _
[04:51] <tyk12avy> I have a problem with the character encoding
[04:51] <neozen> skuld: any luck?
[04:51] <Rooy> IgorSobreira: try running realplay from a terminal and see the output if there's any hint
[04:51] <skuld> neozen: It worked!
[04:51] <skuld> Beautifully.
[04:51] <neozen> awesome
[04:51] <tyk12avy> I have a CD with some mp3 which contain turkish characters in the filenames
[04:51] <swany> nope
[04:51] <skuld> And you are chatting with me now on mah wirless!
[04:51] <Toma-> recoding: youre systems grub configuration is in /boot/grub/menu.lst ...i wouldnt reccomend tearing it apart without backing it up first. preferebly to the same folder.
[04:51] <shal3r> Can i allow my user to do things like using Synaptic without entering password each time ?
[04:56] <Toma-> shal3r: not without compromising your systems security
[04:56] <Hunter4242> My laptop's wireless NIC isn't showing up in my network tools, and the wired NIC can't seem to get an IP from my college's network, can someone give me a hand?
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: congrats
[04:56] <tyk12avy> I cannot copy files from CD that contains turkish characters in the filename
[04:56] <shal3r> Toma-, doesn`t matter
[04:56] <eetfunk> Hi all, I just installed ClamAV on Ubuntu, but it says it's outdated when I run FreshClam.  Is there an up to date package for Ubuntu somewhere?  The Clam site only has one for Debian (and other distros).  Just don't want to break anything...
[04:56] <swany> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11511/
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: you've now gone through one of the more troubling things one must do in linux
[04:56] <skuld> neozen : Thank-you guys so much, you were fabulous.
[04:56] <Toma-> shal3r: i mean, seriously....
[04:56] <recoding> Toma-:Done so there is a menu.lst_backup in there, but i dont think that is the problem, it cant get to stage 2, but i dont know how to fix, i do a (in grub) fine /boot/grub/stage2 i get (fd0) and (hd1,0) and im not sure how to fix, thankyou so far for your help btw :D
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: no worries
[04:56] <ravi_master> hey
[04:56] <Kevlar_Soul> 
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: just help someone else out when they need it
[04:56] <barnball> can anyone help me out? i try adding the printer, its recognized and all, but as soon as i click apply it does its thing and then nothing, and im back at add printer...
[04:56] <skuld> neozen : If that was one of the harder things then Linux ain't got shi-at on me.
[04:56] <shal3r> Toma-, i know what i am doing for costumers computer in office without any network
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: its how the whole community support thing works
[04:56] <ikonia_> skuld there is no need for bad language
[04:56] <Toma-> shal3r: rightio
[04:56] <skuld> neozen : *nods*  I shall do mah best.
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: yeah.... its stable as heck.. once you get it up and running
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: you don't game much do you?
[04:56] <Toma-> recoding: im finding it a little hard to understand you :D
[04:56] <soundray> shal3r: set timestamp_timeout to a higher value?
[04:56] <CheshireViking> shal3r, by there's no network, do you mean that there's no internet access?
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: as in computer games
[04:56] <skuld> neozen : Not a lot.  Guild Wars is about it.
[04:56] <soundray> swany: there is an IRQ routing problem though...
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: good
[04:57] <OuZo> how do i  convert html to pdf? thanks
[04:57] <neozen> skuld: linux is iffy on running windows games... biiiiig pain in arse
[04:57] <shal3r> CheshireViking, yes
[04:57] <swany> ok how do i sort that? :)
[04:57] <shal3r> soundray, where i can set it?
[04:57] <tyk12avy> I cannot copy files from CD that contains turkish characters in the filename, do you know how to manage this?
[04:57] <ravi_master> neozen: ever try cedega?
[04:57] <skuld> neozen : Got it.  I don't even know if there is a Linux version of GW yet..
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: no
[04:57] <Kevlar_Soul> What is a scripting interface?
[04:57] <hylje> wine runs certain games quite well
[04:57] <barnball> printer help from anyone?
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: I don't game
[04:57] <tarzeau> tyk12avy: use mc?
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: starcraft is about it
[04:57] <fqh> hi
[04:57] <soundray> swany: can you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst with sudo and find the #kopt line. Add 'pci=noacpi' at the end of that line. Run 'sudo update-grub'. Reboot and check the sound again.
[04:57] <neozen> naturally... that works great in wine
[04:57] <soundray> shal3r: man sudoers
[04:57] <tyk12avy> tarzeau, I have tried with krusader no chance than I have tried with the classic explorer windows from Ubuntu, no chance
[04:57] <ravi_master> neozen: for me, all I do is some card game when I am bored
[04:57] <recoding> Toma-: thats easy to undersand lol, ok i have hdb hdc and hdd, when i Bootup it jut says GRUB, so i reboot with a floppy disc in and i get a menu, that tries to boot to hd2,0 doesnt work, nor does hd1,0 so i press C to get to the command line, and i enter configfile (hd1,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst and it works, thats how i got in here, but for some reason that doesnt boot first, i tihnk another copy of GRUB is somewhere on the system, from wiping Fedora Cor
[04:57] <recoding> e i presme (sorry noob, didnt think of the consquences)
[04:57] <CheshireViking> shal3r, still sounds risky to me, this sounds like what you need - http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/838
[04:57] <recoding> wow, i write too much ='[
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: I do more emulation then anything else
[04:57] <ravi_master> snes?
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: and there are plenty of emulators out there for linux
[04:57] <CheshireViking> shal3r, or perhaps not, that talks about typing sudo synaptic
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: snes, playstation, and nes
[04:57] <Toma-> recoding: ahh so you need to reinstall grub from ubuntu onto the MBR?
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: and I just got an n64 emulator working
[04:57] <soundray> swany: does that make sense? I forgot to add 'save & close' after editing the #kopt line
[04:57] <l90bpm> does the playstation emulator run good?
[04:58] <tyk12avy> I cannot copy files from CD that contains turkish characters in the filename, do you know how to manage this?
[04:58] <Toma-> l90bpm: epsxe?
[04:58] <recoding> toma-:Yes! that would work, how would i go about that, i hear (from looking for the past 2 sdays ) that you cannot edit, the MBR, only overwrite it so how would i do that? thankyouuuuu!
[04:58] <l90bpm> whichever
[04:58] <neozen> yeah
[04:58] <neozen> epsxe works great
[04:58] <tyk12avy> I cannot copy files from CD that contains turkish characters in the filename, do you know how to manage this? I cannot see them
[04:58] <jberniol> one question: I have a core.9444 file in my user directory: what is that ?
[04:58] <l90bpm> tried all the others...  never ran a ps emulator
[05:03] <soundray> !repeat | tyk12avy
[05:03] <ubotu> tyk12avy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:03] <wols> jberniol: a coredump
[05:03] <neozen> you need to get the right plugins (use zophar.net) and the bios from the playstation
[05:03] <jberniol> can I remove it ?
[05:03] <wols> yes
[05:03] <jberniol> ok, thanks
[05:03] <l90bpm> <-- has every n64 game
[05:03] <l90bpm> lol
[05:03] <comoddor1> how can i reconfigure my sata disk of windows installation so i can write on it?
[05:03] <Toma-> l90bpm: yeh epsxe is the bomb. runs lots of isos great... doesnt look as good as a good ol PS1 tho :)
[05:03] <proppy> hi, is there a recommanded channel for festy installation bug reporting ?
[05:03] <swany> ok
[05:03] <soundray> !fuse > comoddor1, please read ubotu's pm
[05:03] <swany> going to reboot
[05:03] <Hunter4242> I'm having issues getting my wireless NIC to work with Ubuntu, it shows up in the device manager, but not the network tools
[05:03] <neozen> Toma-: I agree
[05:03] <recoding> Toma-: Yes! that would work, how would i go about that, i hear (from looking for the past 2 sdays ) that you cannot edit, the MBR, only overwrite it so how would i do that? thankyouuuuu!
[05:03] <Toma-> !grub | recoding
[05:03] <ubotu> recoding: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:03] <neozen> Toma-: goes all blocky sometimes
[05:03] <recoding> i knew tha
[05:03] <barnball> anyone know why it wouldn't install my printer? other than the fact that according to google the lexmark x75 and *nix hate each other?
[05:03] <comoddor1> ubuntu pm????
[05:03] <comoddor1> what's that?
[05:03] <l90bpm> I don't ever get time to play many games :(
[05:03] <recoding> Toma-:thankyou! i will look at pages and get back to you, thankyou soo much!
[05:03] <soundray> comoddor1: ubotu sent you a private message
[05:03] <billy> barball:  i've heard the same.
[05:03] <Toma-> l90bpm: muopen64 is good for n64 games
[05:03] <l90bpm> barball.. I was told there's a lot of issues on lexmark printers
[05:03] <barnball> yea, thats what im seein on google...
[05:03] <l90bpm> gonna get it in a minute Toma..   thanks
[05:03] <Toma-> l90bpm: np
[05:03] <billy> hp is the way to go.
[05:03] <IgorSobreira> hey..i have a filme .rmvb that doenst play songs....anybody knows the problem?
[05:03] <barnball> yea, well ive had this lexmark forever and dont have the money for a new printer....guess for now im stuck with hookin it up to my xp laptop and redneck engineering it...bah
[05:03] <l90bpm> hp is great till it's time to buy ink
[05:03] <Dave_W> hey all
[05:03] <swany> ok so its still looping
[05:03] <l90bpm> speaking of emulation..   what is a good windoze emulator?
[05:03] <swany> but i got a crash report aparently
[05:03] <l90bpm> gonna ditch windoze all together
[05:03] <swany> oh xirc closed unexpectadly
[05:03] <Dave_W> opinions on Mepis?
[05:03] <soundray> swany: can you just check that pci=noacpi appears when you do a 'cat /proc/cmdline'
[05:03] <Gorgapor> question: I seem to be missing the info pages for alot of utilities, like paste, cat, and "info info" too. Is there a package that has these?
[05:03] <ddavies_> Does anyone know how I can find out what package creates a given directory?
[05:03] <barnball> hey heres a random thought...if i set up a windows VM on one of my linux boxes...could i get the printer working that way? or no?
[05:03] <swany> root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[05:04] <swany> is all that appears
[05:04] <Dave_W> printer driver problem??
[05:04] <barnball> yea, lexmark X75....need i say more? lol
[05:04] <IgorSobreira> hey..i have a filme .rmvb that doenst play songs....anybody knows the problem?
[05:04] <soundray> swany: something has gone wrong with the boot option setting then. What do you get from 'grep kopt /boot/grub/menu.lst'?
[05:04] <Dave_W> am a noob at all of this, but how about ndis wrapper
[05:04] <Dave_W> ?
[05:05] <swany> ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
[05:05] <swany> ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
[05:05] <swany> ##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
[05:05] <swany> ##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
[05:05] <swany> # kopt=root=UUID=de135c33-da24-4f7c-bec1-6c83e5573007 ro
[05:05] <swany> # kopt_2_6=root=/dev/sda1 ro
[05:05] <swany> i pasted what you wanted after that
[05:05] <soundray> swany: please don't paste here
[05:09] (octoberdan/#ubuntu) Toma-: I can boot into my old kernel (2.6.8)
[05:09] (comoddor1/#ubuntu) anybody help?
[05:09] (comoddor1/#ubuntu) how can i reconfigure my sata disk of windows installation so i can write on it?
[05:09] (swany/#ubuntu) add it in a new line?
[05:09] (octoberdan/#ubuntu) Toma-: I'm running it now actually
[05:09] (CreepyCrawly/#ubuntu) anyone manage to fix the usb mic on dell m1210 ?
[05:09] (comoddor1/#ubuntu) i am a complete newbie
[05:09] (SurfnKid/#ubuntu) Hunter4242: set it up manually under /etc/network/interfaces
[05:09] (Toma-/#ubuntu) octoberdan: have you checked the /boot/grub/menu.lst and seen if the root= options are the same?
[05:10] (octoberdan/#ubuntu) Toma-: Yes, and they are
[05:10] (lillrazor/#ubuntu) anyone who knows hpw I can get sound in my external speakers?
[05:10] (Toma-/#ubuntu) rightio
[05:10] (lillrazor/#ubuntu) *how
[05:10] <soundray> comoddor1: have you found the message that ubotu sent you? Look around your IRC window.
[05:10] <CreepyCrawly> !mic
[05:10] <comoddor1> i can't do that
[05:10] <Hunter4242> SurfnKid: You mean via the terminal? I'm pretty much brand new to linux
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <comoddor1> i need help step by step
[05:10] <SurfnKid> Hunter4242: ill guide you quickly before i leave
[05:10] <CreepyCrawly> !usb mic
[05:10] <SurfnKid> brb
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <soundray> swany: no, I said "add it at the end of the line".
[05:11] <comoddor1> i get error messages that are not listed there
[05:11] <swany> which kopt line?
[05:12] <Hunter4242> SurfnKid: Ok, i've gotten to the netowrk folder and opened the interfaces file in vi, what do i need to do?
[05:12] <soundray> swany: the one that begins with
[05:12] <soundray> swany: the one that begins with # kopt= and contains the UUID as well.
[05:12] <swany> k
[05:13] <octoberdan> Toma-: How would I try to reconfigure?
[05:13] <soundray> comoddor1: use the pastebin to show us the error messages (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[05:13] <swany> ok rebooting
[05:13] <soundray> comoddor1: in this channel, you can get help if you ask specific questions about specific problems.
[05:13] <soundray> swany hold on
[05:14] <comoddor1> is there any easy way to make my ntfs sata disk writable?
[05:14] <comoddor1> i have mounted him
[05:14] <nalioth> comoddor1: use Windows?
[05:14] <Toma-> octoberdan: well when the kernel package gets installed, it updates menu.lst with the "proper" options for it. are you doing anything unusual to get the kernels on there?
[05:14] <soundray> comoddor1: yes. ubotu has sent you a message about that.
[05:14] <comoddor1> i want to use vmplayer to run windows installation through ubuntu
[05:14] <comoddor1> to run dreamweaver
[05:15] <comoddor1> and some other stuff
[05:15] <Federico90> hi
[05:15] <ravi_master> good luck commoddor1
[05:15] <octoberdan> Toma-: hmmm... following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[05:15] <neozen> comoddor1: don't use vmplayer
[05:15] <octoberdan> Toma-: but other then that, no
[05:15] <neozen> comoddor1: vmware server is now free
[05:15] <soundray> comoddor1: if you want to run Dreamweaver and some other proprietary Windows stuff, just boot Windows.
[05:15] <neozen> comoddor1: there's a great guide for getting it up and running under ubuntu
[05:15] <Federico90> who knows how to use the wireless by console?
[05:16] <neozen> comoddor1: I'll track it down for you
[05:16] <Toma-> octoberdan: and its not an SATA drive?
[05:16] <octoberdan> Toma-: The one strange thing is I'm a Debian convert. After some wrestling I was able to convert from Debian to Ubuntu with a successful dist-upgrade and an install of ubuntu-standerd and ubuntu-desktop
[05:16] <octoberdan> Toma-: Right
[05:16] <CroX> Ohnoes.. http://www.ubuntu-women.org/ - Varfr verkar kvinnor ha ett behov av att alienera sig?
[05:16] <octoberdan> Toma-: I had the Debian version of grub installed, I just downgraded to Ubuntu. I'm going to try and reinstall the kernel
[05:16] <Toma-> octoberdan: impressive :D
[05:16] <octoberdan> Toma-: It took a long long while, but I did it
[05:17] <Toma-> octoberdan: no easy feat :D nice job. what file system are you using btw? have you got that compiled?
[05:17] <ryanpg> does dapper (and breezy) use PAM to authenticate users? or something else?
[05:17] <mrpoundsign> keen!  my system might boot today!
[05:17] <froyd> hey have anybody here used gnomeart ?
[05:17] <Federico90> anyone?
[05:18] <froyd> or even changed splashscreens, login screens n stuff like that ?
[05:18] <Toma-> froyd: as long as there are no follow up questions, yes. :)
[05:18] <mrpoundsign> I installed kubuntu-desktop...  how do I revert everythign back to gnome?  kde isn't for me (sucks)
[05:18] <bcochofel> I've noticed that ubuntu starts ssh-agent auto for every user. How can I run ssh-add auto whenever a user logins (in X11) and ask for a pass to use in all programs?
[05:19] <mrpoundsign> specifically, the program defaults are now kde programs in Firefox...
[05:19] <billy> mrpoundsign: just log out of kde.  login in under gnome
[05:19] <froyd> Toma-: Ok ... i wont do it to u then ...but im havin a lot of problems trying to launch my gnome-splashscreen
[05:19] <froyd> :(
[05:19] <octoberdan> Toma-: Toma- ext3, I believe
[05:19] <mrpoundsign> billy:  I did that.  also, the kubuntu boot splash screen, and kdm -- though I kinda like kdm :)
[05:19] <neozen> comoddor1: you still there?
[05:19] <Toma-> ahhhh 1:20am here. time for bed soon :/
[05:20] <Toma-> froyd: ahh i dont use gnome sorry
[05:20] <neozen> comoddor1: found that guide for getting the free vmware server up and running on ubuntu, you'll find it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware
[05:20] <Toma-> octoberdan: do you *need* to compile your own kernel?
[05:21] <mrpoundsign> can I just reconfigure ubuntu-desktop?
[05:21] <srjames> it's always good to compile your own kernel
[05:21] <Swanyl> still no change
[05:21] <srjames> if you know what you're doing.
[05:21] <Toma-> srjames: maybe on gentoo.
[05:21] <lugod> Toma-: i'm trying to compile ruby against tk8.5 now
[05:21] <octoberdan> Toma-: Probably not, but I thought it'd be fun. The precompiled ones provided by ubuntu are giving me the same issue though
[05:21] <neozen> I want to recompile my car
[05:21] <srjames> Toma-, yeah... i suppose.. ubuntu seems to be great out of the box
[05:22] <soundray> Swanyl: "grep acpi /proc/cmdline" -- does it give you any output?
[05:22] <mrpoundsign> neozen: always a good idea!
[05:22] <Toma-> lugod: cool :) read all those freindly ./configure --help options for xft and AA and such
[05:22] <Swanyl> none
[05:22] <Swanyl> its not shutting down properly either
[05:22] <soundray> Swanyl: did you run 'sudo update-grub' like I told you?
[05:22] <Swanyl> i have to force shut it down
[05:22] <Toma-> octoberdan: well the problem must lie else where...
[05:22] <Swanyl> yes
[05:23] <lugod> Toma-: actually I'm trying to generate a package with apt-get source --build :)
[05:23] <soundray> Swanyl: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst please
[05:23] <Toma-> lugod: oh god :D
[05:23] <mrpoundsign> Feisty == goodness.  Finally Apache 2.2.4 and PHP 5.1.2
[05:23] <soundray> Feisty == offtopic here
[05:23] <neozen> lugod: you have fun with that
[05:23] <Swanyl> whats the edit command?
[05:24] <soundray> Swanyl: gksudo gedit
[05:24] <recoding> toma-: ok i tried that, and i did the Find thing here, it said it was hd2,0 but its hd1,0 (found that out after rebooting and doing at the GRUB prompt
[05:24] <lugod> Toma-: didn't work :(
[05:25] <lugod> Toma-: weird. it was configured using --with-tcl-include=/usr/include/tcl8.5 which is correct
[05:25] <lugod> Toma-: guess i will try compiling manually
[05:25] <Toma-> hmm
[05:25] <Swanyl> there is nothing in boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:25] <Toma-> lugod: usually best. sometimes the extra options are missing
[05:25] <StasIsLovE> Hi, im trying to install one thing, (follow the tutorial) and one of the steps is to write: svn checkout url... in the terminal, but i get "svn" not foud, any idea what to do to get it working?
[05:25] <Toma-> god i need slep. cyas l8r
[05:25] <soundray> Swanyl: don't mistake 1 and l
[05:25] <lugod> Toma-: the tk part mysteriously failed to compile (cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux/tcltklib.so': No such file or directory)
[05:26] <billy> is there a way to record PCM output?
[05:26] <skuld> Hey, does anyone know what plugins or whatnot I would need to play mah music?
[05:26] <lugod> Toma-: sounds likely
[05:26] <Swanyl> i copy pasted what you had typed
[05:26] <octoberdan> Toma-: Hmmm haveing some problems nstalling the package I created... I'll be right back
[05:26] <neozen> skuld: yeah
[05:26] <soundray> Swanyl: you need to copy the leading / also
[05:26] <neozen> skuld: a ton of stuff depending on what format it is
[05:26] <Toma-> octoberdan: im out. sorry :(
[05:26] <neozen> !codecs
[05:26] <skuld> neozen : You could be a god.
[05:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <neozen> that has everything
[05:27] <skuld> neozen : Oh lord, just what I needed to hear.  XD
[05:27] <Hunter4242> SurfnKid: Ok, i've gotten to the netowrk folder and opened the interfaces file in vi, what do i need to do to configure my NICs?
[05:27] <disasm> python-numeric doesn't include LinearAlgebra, and without modifying my PATH to force it to look in my preinstalled one, it finds Numeric first in /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Numeric and then gives an error LinearAlgebra not found
[05:27] <Swanyl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11517/
[05:27] <neozen> skuld: I could be.... but more likely I'm just an somewhat cute 6' tall boy-thing
[05:27] <froyd> do any of u guys had or have problems with ruby for the gnome-splashscreen ?
[05:27] <skuld> neozen : :D
[05:28] <froyd> im having a lot of problems wit this ruby :(
[05:28] <rodelrod> StasIsLovE: sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:28] <Nitro> This is really silly, but pressing delete to remove a keyboard shortcut doesn't work :p
[05:28] <StasIsLovE> rodelrod, thanks, ill try that
[05:28] <Nitro> How do I remove one?
[05:28] <Kevlar_Soul_> mplayer is not starting with wmv videos embedded in websites!!!  What can I do??
[05:28] <soundray> Swanyl: you haven't run 'sudo update-grub'. Do it now.
[05:28] <recoding> toma-:i swear this thing hates me, i know its hd1,0 at bootup, but in the GUI atm i get it as hd2,0 and hd1,0 is a "unknow file system" madd??
[05:28] <deb_user> i'm having some unmet dependecies problems in dapper.  Would someone take a quick look at this and see if they can give me some pointers?  should be pretty easy to fix: http://pastebin.ca/406671
[05:28] <jduran> Hey ppl
[05:28] <soundray> Swanyl: and paste the file again
[05:28] <jduran> does Kubuntu has GCC?
[05:29] <neozen> Kevlar_Soul_: there's a mozilla plugin which concerns mplayer
[05:29] <pqr> hi
[05:29] <neozen> Kevlar_Soul_: do a little research
[05:29] <soundray> jduran: yes. Install build-essential
[05:29] <jduran> does Kubuntu has GCC?
[05:29] <neozen> Kevlar_Soul_: might even be in the repos
[05:29] <jduran> ok
[05:29] <pqr> sound doesn't work in one of my account...it works in other acct
[05:29] <jduran> thanks
[05:29] <skuld> neozen : None of this makes sense?  So, it doesn't play MP3s?  (Rhythmbox, I mean.)
[05:29] <Kevlar_Soul_> neozen I searched the syantic for it
[05:29] <pqr> this happened after i changed mic settings in sound-recorder
[05:29] <neozen> skuld: no... it can
[05:29] <jduran> and GCJ?
[05:29] <Kevlar_Soul_> neozen I tried, Im asking for hel[
[05:29] <skuld> neozen : *holds head*
[05:29] <Kevlar_Soul_> help
[05:30] <pqr> i guess there is some problem with permissions....any idea?
[05:30] <octoberdan> I'm having some strange problems when trying to install the package I created for my compiled kernel: http://paste.uni.cc/13837
[05:30] <skuld> I'm toast.
[05:30] <Nitro> ?
[05:30] <soundray> !software | jduran
[05:30] <Kevlar_Soul_> synaptic
[05:30] <ubotu> jduran: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[05:30] <Swanyl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11518/
[05:30] <octoberdan> "Couldn't find package update-grub" ???
[05:30] <neozen> skuld: no.. you're not toast
[05:30] <pqr> when i click on "volume" button...i get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." error
[05:30] <neozen> skuld: there's things which make it easy
[05:30] <jduran> where can I get information about packages?
[05:30] <Crazytom> skuld, wireless card not working still?
[05:30] <Kevlar_Soul_> Mozilla plugin for mplayer, anyone
[05:30] <Kevlar_Soul_> ?
[05:30] <disasm> octoberdan: update-grub is part of grub package
[05:30] <neozen> skuld: but they're alpha software... which means sometimes they break
[05:31] <skuld> Crazytom: IT IS!  Now I want mah music to play, and my computer doesn't.
[05:31] <neozen> skuld: what format are your files?
[05:31] <Kevlar_Soul_> anyone know of a deb file that will install codecs w32?????
[05:31] <skuld> neozen : Most of them are mp3s.
[05:31] <disasm> Kevlar_Soul_: mplayerplug-in I think is the name of it, I'm on my work debian system though, so couldn't tell you
[05:31] <octoberdan> disasm: But I have that installed... Why would it be bitching at me?
[05:31] <Kevlar_Soul_> ok
[05:31] <octoberdan> disasm: And shouldn't it be grub-update?
[05:31] <LightCatcher> Is there a way to run KDE applications in GNOME so I don't have to install KDE just to run one program that I'm curious about?
[05:31] <jduran> I use debian, but there is friend that wants to use Kubuntu and he is programmer and he needs em
[05:31] <ravi_master> octo, calm down
[05:31] <ravi_master> family freindly channel
[05:31] <disasm> octoberdan: are you running update-grub?
[05:31] <ardchoille> Kevlar_Soul_: mozilla-mplayer
[05:31] <MikeW> I've spent the morning searching for this, but does anyone know of a free tool that runs on linux that can break the password of a microsoft word document. There are windows tools, but I can't find any linux tools.
[05:32] <Crazytom> skuld, did you install xmms-mp3?
[05:32] <skuld> neozen : Probably 95% of them are mp3s.
[05:32] <Kevlar_Soul_> ardchoille:  thanks
[05:32] <octoberdan> disasm: I'm trying to install a new kernel. http://paste.uni.cc/13837
[05:32] <skuld> Crazytom : ...no?
[05:32] <gepatino> LightCatcher: you dont have to use kde to run a kde app
[05:32] <Hunter4242> Ok, i've gotten to the netowrk folder and opened the interfaces file in vi, what do i need to do to configure my NICs properly?
[05:32] <ardchoille> Kevlar_Soul_: You're welcome :)
[05:32] <octoberdan> disasm: All of the error messages are there
[05:32] <disasm> MikeW: try win tools in wine is my best guess
[05:32] <soundray> Swanyl: it hasn't worked. Go to the line that starts with "kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic" and append pci=noacpi there (with a space). Then reboot again.
[05:32] <bcochofel> Anyone here using ssh-agent?
[05:32] <octoberdan> "The provided postrm hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub]  could not be run."
[05:32] <ravi_master> hey, skuld, you still up to no good?
[05:32] <LightCatcher> gepatino: Oh! Hahaha! Thank you. I guess I should have tried before asking. :)
[05:32] <Smirnov> anyone know how i can reset the windows user password with a ubuntu livecd?
[05:32] <Shaffox> is there a way to have different backgrounds on different workspaces ?
[05:32] <nat_> Can anyone help me with Ubuntu?
[05:32] <gepatino> LightCatcher: when you install, say k3b, kde libs are installed and you can use it from gnome
[05:32] <skuld> ravi_master : You know it.  ;)
[05:32] <neozen> skuld: its going to be ok
[05:33] <Kevlar_Soul_> codecsW32
[05:33] <jduran> ok, thanks!
[05:33] <LightCatcher> gepatino: Thank you very much.
[05:33] <disasm> octoberdan: ls /usr/sbin/update-grub
[05:33] <skuld> ravi_master : The wireless is working perfectly, but I'm running into more settings and file-format disagreements.
[05:33] <octoberdan> disasm: Not there
[05:33] <skuld> ravi_master : I just want mah music.  ;_;
[05:33] <neozen> hey guys ... how do I get mp3s to play!
[05:33] <neozen> lol
[05:33] <nat_> Hi! Very new to Ubuntu...having GTK-Gnutella problems can anyone help me?
[05:33] <ravi_master> ah ok, sudo apt-get install listen
[05:33] <disasm> octoberdan: i386 arch edgy?
[05:33] <Swanyl> ok rebooting
[05:33] <soundray> !mp3 > neozen, please read ubotu's pm
[05:34] <octoberdan> disasm: locate shows it at /sbin/update-grub
[05:34] <neozen> I was afraid someone would say that
[05:34] <neozen> lol
[05:34] <disasm> octoberdan: did you try apt-get remove grub;apt-get install grub?
[05:34] <neozen> tons of copouts in that bot
[05:34] <ravi_master> skuld: you got that command, just execute, wait a second, go to applications, music, listen, start adding your music, and enjoy.
[05:34] <neozen> !mp3
[05:34] <pqr> having problems with sound...can't play sound in one acct...getting "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[05:34] <pqr> works fine in other acct
[05:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:34] <Crazytom> what is the ubuntu equivelent to xmms-mp3
[05:34] <Hunter4242> I'm in my /etc/network/interfaces file in vi, what do i need to do to configure my NICs properly?
[05:35] <ravi_master> Crazytom, what do you mean?
[05:35] <skuld> rave_master : You make me happy.
[05:35] <disasm> Crazytom: I think you need to install lame from universe
[05:35] <Crazytom> that's what i used to use on fedora
[05:35] <nat_> Hi...can anyone help me with my Gtk-Gnutella problem?
[05:35] <octoberdan> disasm: Just tried that. Still fails, but with slightly different problems
[05:35] <deb_user> can somebody help me with libc6 dependency problems?
[05:36] <ravi_master> do the samething crazy
[05:36] <skuld> rave_master : ;_;
[05:36] <ravi_master> just make sure you have xmms, crazytom, do sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-mp3
[05:36] <deb_user> depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4.
[05:36] <octoberdan> disasm: It doesn't complain the package doesn't exist, but "User postinst hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub]  failed to execute: No such file or directory
[05:36] <soundray> neozen: the first page that ubotu lists has detailed instructions on how to make MP3 work. What's the problem?
[05:36] <Kevlar_Soul_> Thanks I found the COdecw32
[05:36] <octoberdan> disasm: Should I link it?
[05:36] <Kevlar_Soul_> thank you
[05:36] <neozen> soundray: no problem at all mon
[05:36] <nat_> My GtK won't load
[05:36] <Kevlar_Soul_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Restricted&titlesearch=Titles
[05:36] <nat_> says my version is very old
[05:36] <Kevlar_Soul_> Its all there
[05:37] <soundray> neozen: what's that talk about copouts then?
[05:37] <ravi_master> skuld: did you get it working?
[05:37] <neozen> soundray: I just think the bot should spit out the apt-get line somewhere in its reply
[05:37] <neozen> lol
[05:37] <skuld> rave_master : No.
[05:37] <neozen> save people some time
[05:37] <ravi_master> ravi* it's a first name
[05:37] <swanyl> ok no difference with the sound but the startup sound only played twice.... dunno what its suppoed to do
[05:37] <octoberdan> disasm: link to /sbin/update-grub from where it is looking?
[05:37] <limasdf> i have a question!!!!
[05:38] <ardchoille> neozen: Sometimes apt-get lines differ from Dapper, Edgy, Feisty.
[05:38] <limasdf> i want install xmms
[05:38] <limasdf> but
[05:38] <soundray> swanyl: 'cat /proc/cmdline'?
[05:38] <limasdf> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:38] <neozen> ardchoille: good point
[05:38] <limasdf> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:38] <limasdf> how can i do
[05:38] <neozen> I stand corrected
[05:38] <mcscruff> limasdf, sudo apt-get install xmms   ????
[05:38] <swanyl> root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[05:38] <JosefK> limasdf, 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[05:38] <ravi_master> Crazytom, you got your problem with xmms fixed?
[05:38] <nat_> Can anyone help me?
[05:38] <soundray> swanyl: 'uname -a'?
[05:38] <limasdf> sudo apt-get install xmms  thx i'll try it
[05:38] <neozen> skuld: you run that command I sent you?
[05:38] <nat_> where can I get some help?
[05:38] <ardchoille> neozen: But, I like your thinking :)
[05:39] <swanyl> Linux swany-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 18:03:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:39] <nat_> Please...I'm desperate!!
[05:39] <skuld> neozen : It told me it couldn't find one of the packafes.
[05:39] <skuld> *packages
[05:39] <neozen> skuld: ahhh
[05:39] <nat_> can you see me?
[05:39] <soundray> nat_: no
[05:39] <ravi_master> yeah, skuld needs more repos
[05:39] <neozen> skuld: I think we need to edit your repos
[05:39] <ravi_master> hahah
[05:39] <Crazytom> ravi_master, i'll deal with it later
[05:39] <neozen> load up an editor
[05:39] <ardchoille> nat_: If no one knows the answer, you will have to wait or you can try ubuntu forums.
[05:39] <neozen> with root privs
[05:39] <skuld> neozen ; ravi_master : ...okay?
[05:39] <limasdf> thx mcscruff & josefk
[05:39] <Crazytom> ravi_master, thanks anyway but i need to go
[05:39] <neozen> get to a terminal
[05:39] <nat_> ok...thanks.
[05:39] <Agrajag> !ask | nat_
[05:39] <ubotu> nat_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:40] <limasdf> xmms is installed  :)
[05:40] <deb_user> anybody know how to fix this: depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4.
[05:40] <neozen> and type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:40] <limasdf> but
[05:40] <skuld> Me?
[05:40] <neozen> yeah
[05:40] <neozen> sorry
[05:40] <limasdf> can't I install xmms by  using ./configure?    GCC?
[05:40] <neozen> skuld: forgot to stick your name @ the front
[05:40] <nat_> my gtk-gnutella won't load. How can I upgrade if in Template it says my version is too old
[05:40] <skuld> neozen : It's all good.  I just get lost.
[05:40] <neozen> limasdf: xmms is in the repositories
[05:41] <soundray> swanyl: hello, what do you get from 'uname -a'?
[05:41] <neozen> skuld: happens in a room that moves this fast
[05:41] <skuld> neozen : :D
[05:41] <limasdf> neozen, yes but
[05:41] <swanyl> Linux swany-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 18:03:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:41] <swanyl> is what i get
[05:41] <neozen> skuld: its why I run a plugin that flashes my thinklight when someone uses my name in a chat that I've opened in gaim
[05:41] <limasdf> hm..
[05:42] <limasdf> what's "build-essential" ?
[05:42] <skuld> neozen : Ah ha!
[05:42] <octoberdan> disasm: Linking worked. I'm going to try and reboot into the new kernel.
[05:42] <octoberdan> Thank you all for the help.
[05:42] <soundray> swanyl: it's not enough to make a change to a file in an editor. You have to also save it before it can take effect.
[05:42] <neozen> yeah... helps alot for easily distracted (really bouncy) types like me
[05:42] <swanyl> i know and i am
[05:42] <skuld> So, what am I supposed to be doing?
[05:42] <swanyl> i'm also running that update
[05:43] <neozen> neozen: ok.... get to terminal
[05:43] <neozen> lol
[05:43] <neozen> oops
[05:43] <skuld> Nice.
[05:43] <skuld> I have something there?!
[05:43] <skuld> Oh, I forgot.
[05:43] <ravi_master> skuld, you should have your own #skuld's-day-to-setup-ubuntu
[05:43] <soundray> swanyl: what update?
[05:43] <jessid> ~php
[05:43] <skuld> neozen : /etc/apt/sources.list is open?
[05:43] <neozen> skuld: yeah hopefully
[05:44] <swanyl> sudo bash-update or something
[05:44] <swanyl> what you told me to run
[05:44] <deb_user> anybody know how to fix this: depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4.
[05:44] <neozen> skuld: is it?
[05:44] <mrgibson> Can someone help me? I am using feisty and by default alsa /dev/snd is not readable/writeable by normal users, someone know a quick fix ? (except: chmod on each boot)
[05:44] <skuld> ravi_master : I'm so there.
[05:44] <nat_> how do you download music with Ubuntu?
[05:44] <skuld> neozen : It is.
[05:44] <neozen> skuld: ok
[05:44] <jessid> hello! Some of you know which is a good environment to work with PHP?
[05:44] <soundray> swanyl: 'sudo update-grub' -- did this return any messages?
[05:45] <neozen> skuld: you'll see a # on the beginning of some lines
[05:45] <disasm> nat_: I use scp, but I'm downloading from friends/family
[05:45] <skuld> neozen : join us #skuld's-day-to-setup-ubuntu
[05:45] <neozen> skuld: lines that begin with deb
[05:45] <Shirmpy_> nat_: how did you download music before?
[05:45] <neozen> skuld: remove the # from the beginning of those lines
[05:45] <skuld> Oh lord.
[05:45] <|thunder> could someone please tell me what game that is on the wineHQ main page? http://appdb.winehq.org/ the bottom of the three screenshots at the top.
[05:45] <neozen> skuld: but don't change anything else
[05:45] <nat_> I used Windows...I've only had Ubuntu for the last week
[05:45] <coffeegrindah> how do i stop USB disks from automounting>/
[05:45] <neozen> skuld: for the love of god
[05:45] <nat_> very new to this os
[05:46] <skuld> O_O
[05:46] <soundray> coffeegrindah: System-Preferences-Removable Drives
[05:46] <neozen> skuld: yeah... those lines are important
[05:46] <skuld> Which, what?
[05:46] <swanyl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11523/
[05:46] <Kool> hi. where can i find the release candidates for ubuntu?
[05:46] <Shirmpy_> nat_: well there are a lot of pp2p and torrent donwloader. also you can visit online stores to purshace music
[05:46] <coffeegrindah> cool lets see if this works now
[05:46] <neozen> skuld: they let your package manager know where to find programs you want to install on the net
[05:46] <ardchoille> Kool: /join #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <Kool> ok
[05:47] <skuld> neozen : Where, hun?
[05:47] <disasm> swanyl: whats the problem?
[05:47] <nat_> I tried frostwire but it won't load, tried installing java 5 but won't install
[05:47] <neozen> switch to room
[05:47] <Kassah> |thunder: Counter-Strike 1.5 I think
[05:47] <neozen> lol
[05:47] <soundray> disasm: I've got it under control
[05:47] <|thunder> Kassah; thanks
[05:47] <swanyl> my sb live (with livedrive 2) doesn't work it plays all sounds like a scratched cd
[05:47] <neozen> skuld: type /join #skuld's-day-to-setup-ubuntu into your irc window
[05:47] <swanyl> constantly looping
[05:47] <Shirmpy_> nat_: did you install it via the synaptic package mananger?
[05:47] <skuld>  /join #skuld's-day-to-setup-ubuntu
[05:47] <nat_> no
[05:48] <nat_> how do you do that?
[05:48] <neozen> lol
[05:48] <disasm> soundray: ?
[05:48] <skuld> I know.
[05:48] <eighta> HELLO
[05:48] <soundray> disasm: swanyl has looping sounds. dmesg shows acpi routing problems. Trying to boot with pci=noacpi option.
[05:48] <Kassah> eighta: no caps please
[05:48] <eighta> ok
[05:48] <Shirmpy_> nat_: that's pretty much the best way to install stuff. (apt's faster but offers no GUI
[05:48] <eighta> someone can help me!
[05:49] <eighta> to install ubuntu
[05:49] <soundray> swanyl: how many lines of output from 'grep pci=noacpi /boot/grub/menu.lst'?
[05:49] <neozen> skuld: guess you're already there
[05:49] <swanyl> only 1
[05:49] <grhunter> eighta sure
[05:49] <swanyl> # kopt=root=UUID=de135c33-da24-4f7c-bec1-6c83e5573007 ro pci=noacpi
[05:49] <Shirmpy_> nat_: go to system>admistration.sypatic package manager (sorry about the spelling)
[05:49] <nat_> ok...I'm there
[05:49] <eighta> grhunter, i have a probem
[05:49] <swanyl> which doesn't make sense cause i put in the other one
[05:49] <grhunter> what is it?
[05:50] <swanyl> or does it?
[05:50] <eighta> i cant install linux via cdrom, because that dont work anymore
[05:50] <eighta> and i want intall via PXE
[05:50] <eighta> do you know how to do''
[05:50] <eighta> ?
[05:50] <Shirmpy_> nat_: now search what you want (i think you need java?)
[05:50] <soundray> swanyl: this is the one where you were supposed to put it. But the update hasn't worked. Let's do it another way:
[05:50] <swanyl> k
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[05:51] <grhunter> I have bever done an install over PXE.  I have set up pxe boot on machines though
[05:51] <grhunter> You need a TFTP server and a DHCP server that you can configure for the boot process.
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[05:51] <eighta> already done!
[05:51] <Shirmpy_> nat_: sorry but i have to run. also it tells you information about it. and just hit click for instaiton. it's pretty nice stuff. also you can pretty much get anything there! have a good day!
[05:52] <nat_> Thand!!
[05:52] <limasdf> Question : what is the same key  with (windows key+D)  in Linux??
[05:52] <JiBEsH> does anyone know how can i emulate a Cisco 3620 router with 2 serial and 2 Ethernet connections with dynamips ?
[05:52] <nat_> Have a great day!
 can we talk by query???
[05:52] <limasdf> same function key
[05:53] <eighta> someone helpme to install ubuntu!!!
[05:53] <grhunter> sure
[05:53] <wastrel> i'm blind, can't find anywhere to edit categories in evolution.  can someone direct me?
[05:53] <Pici> limasdf: ctrl-alt-D I believe
[05:53] <wastrel> well i'm not literally blind
[05:53] <limasdf> oh thx Pici !!!!!!!!!1
[05:53] <Exal> does anyone knows how I can get that any script is executed when my system starts?
[05:53] <limasdf> great!!!
[05:53] <ardchoille> wastrel: contacts categories?
[05:53] <coffeegrindah> is there any reason why i can format a partion in fat32 in seconds yet it can't seem to format the second partion in ext2? (usb stick automount is disabled)
[05:53] <soundray> swanyl: 'cd /tmp ; wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11520/plain/ ; sudo cp index.html /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[05:54] <limasdf> just lend  ubuntu CD from any friend
[05:54] <limasdf> CD-rom device
[05:54] <wastrel> ardchoille:  contacts and tasks
[05:54] <hossasaur> hi i'm having trouble installing something in the terminal.  whenever i try, it reads "error: failed dependancies: glibc, sh-utils, fileutils, gawk, textutils, /bin/sh needed....." when i know they are all installed
[05:54] <swanyl> ok
[05:54] <Exal> does anyone knows how I can get that any script is executed when my
[05:54] <hossasaur> what is going on here?  is it because i'm installing from root?
[05:54] <Exal>        system starts?
[05:54] <Hunter4242> Can someone give me hand with a workaround for activating my on-board wireless in my laptop? I've been checking the wiki and I found that my wireless is disabled, and i can't find a ay to enable it
[05:55] <JiBEsH> So no one could get me help for: "does anyone know how can i emulate a Cisco 3620 router with 2 serial and 2 Ethernet connections with dynamips ?"
[05:55] <wastrel> ardchoille:  oic i can edit the category list in the contact entry thingy
[05:55] <swanyl> do you want me to reboot now? or.....
[05:55] <wastrel> i was looking for a master list of the categories somewhere
[05:55] <soundray> swanyl: how many lines of output from 'grep pci=noacpi /boot/grub/menu.lst'? No paste please.
[05:55] <ardchoille> wastrel: You can add new contacts categories by double-clicking a contact and clicking the Categories button in the contact window
[05:55] <deb_user> anybody know how to fix this: depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4.
[05:55] <ardchoille> wastrel: yeah
[05:55] <ansaguy> hossasaur: synaptic does package dependency checks -- can you do the install from the gui?
[05:55] <swanyl> 2
[05:56] <soundray> swanyl: the last one starting with 'kernel'?
[05:56] <eighta> someone helpme to install ubuntu via PXE!!!!!!
[05:56] <Nitro> How do I delete a keyboard shortcut?
[05:56] <Nitro> How do I delete a keyboard shortcut?
[05:56] <ardchoille> wastrel: Same ofr tasks?
[05:56] <swanyl> yup
[05:56] <ardchoille> s/ofr/for/
[05:56] <hossasaur> ansaguy: i'm not sure how to install a .rpm from the gui
[05:56] <wastrel> ardchoille:  yes
[05:56] <hossasaur> ansaguy: i'm attempting to install java (for firefox)
[05:56] <soundray> swanyl: excellent. If it doesn't work after a reboot now, I'm gonna have to give up.
[05:56] <ardchoille> hossasaur: You don't. .rpm is for red hat, find a .deb for Ubuntu
[05:56] <swanyl> do you want me to type that update thing?
[05:56] <Pici> !java
[05:56] <swanyl> or just reboot
[05:57] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:57] <Nitro> How do I delete a keyboard shortcut? Nobody that knows?
[05:57] <limasdf> !java
[05:57] <hossasaur> ardchoille: ahhhh thank you
[05:57] <Pici> Nitro: system->preferences->keyboard
[05:57] <parmenides> Is there a known issue with the server iso? I keep getting invalid kernel when I try t o run install.
[05:57] <nat_> how do you update gtk-gnutella?
[05:57] <Pici> Nitro: Sorry, keyboard-shortcuts
[05:57] <Nitro> Pici: I'm there, but how do I delete one?
[05:57] <variant> Nitro: apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[05:58] <swanyl> soundray? do you want me to do that update thing? or just reboot
[05:58] <hossasaur> ardchoille: .bin work?
[05:58] <variant> nat: apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[05:58] <Pici> Nitro: backspace
[05:58] <recoding> help with getting window hardrives back please ='[
[05:58] <variant> nat_: apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[05:58] <swanyl> sudo update-grub
[05:58] <ardchoille> hossasaur: I don't know, I never used a .bin
[05:58] <variant> nat_: it's telling you that it is way out of date?
[05:58] <variant> nat_: the latest version available for edgy will still display that warning
[05:58] <jessid> hello! Some of you know which is a good environment to work with PHP? Thanks!
[05:58] <nat_> Yes
[05:59] <soundray> swanyl: just reboot
[05:59] <nat_> what's edgy?
[05:59] <swanyl> k brb
[05:59] <variant> nat_: the operating system you're using, ubuntu edgy eft
[05:59] <nat_> oh!
[05:59] <variant> nat_: just ignore that warning untill feisty is out (in a couple of months)
[05:59] <coffeegrindah> Can someone help with a usb drive issue? I can't seem to format it in ext2/3.
[06:00] <ardchoille> variant: Feisty is supposed to release on the 19th of next month. Has that changed?
[06:00] <variant> coffeegrindah: mk2fs -j /dev/sdwhatever
[06:00] <soundray> coffeegrindah: what's the format command you use, and how does it fail?
[06:00] <hossasaur> ardchoille: nevermind, it's all in synaptic package manager
[06:00] <variant> ardchoille: not as far as i know
[06:00] <nat_> when I tried the command it said this: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:00] <nat_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:00] <ardchoille> hossasaur: That's even better :)
[06:00] <nat_> what does that mean?
[06:00] <variant> nat_: thats because you have a program such as synaptic open, or your not root
[06:01] <variant> nat_: try with sudo
[06:01] <nat_> oh
[06:01] <nat_> ok
[06:01] <nat_> what's sudo?
[06:01] <Dacvak> Where can I find the ISO for Feisty Fawn?
[06:01] <variant> nat_: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[06:01] <ardchoille> !sudo | nat_
[06:01] <ubotu> nat_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:02] <soundray> Dacvak: join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic please
[06:02] <nat_> ok...thanks
[06:02] <fqh> sudo? I never hear that..
[06:02] <recoding> Sudo, a ubuntu eqivilent of su
[06:02] <Dacvak> K
[06:02] <soundray> recoding: no, it isn't
[06:02] <coffeegrindah> soundray/variant : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11526/ I don't see any errors cut when I attempt to view the partitions in gparted I only see a fat16 (one i had created only seconds ago
[06:02] <swanyl> no difference :( still looping the tunes
[06:02] <ale1> could anyone give me a hand with installing a slave hard drive? am i suppose to format before i mount it?
[06:02] <ameleric> hello i would like to know if somebody speak french for help please
[06:02] <foutrelis> hey :)
[06:02] <lugod> I have another problem: evince offeres print to file as its only printing option; I am using lprng not cups
[06:02] <JosefK> !fr | ameleric
[06:03] <ubotu> ameleric: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:03] <nat_> It says my version is the newest version
[06:03] <variant> ale1: is it a brand new hard disk?
[06:03] <grhunter> eighta: you still there?
[06:03] <variant> nat_: exactly, what i said before
[06:03] <nat_> if that's so why can't I open it?
[06:03] <variant> nat_: why can't you open it?
[06:03] <ameleric> thank you!
[06:03] <soundray> swanyl: 'cat /proc/cmdline'?
[06:03] <nat_> go to appl - internet - gtk-gnutella but nothing happens
[06:04] <variant> nat_: try opening it from a command prompt and see what error is supplied: type gtk-gnutella
[06:04] <swanyl> root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash pci=noacpi
[06:04] <ale1> no it's not, i had dapper installed on before
[06:04] <agonzalez> hola
[06:04] <ale1> but i'm looking to put vista on the slave drive
[06:04] <variant> ale1: should be mountable then
[06:04] <variant> ale1: ew
[06:04] <nat_> it says this:  *** ANCIENT VERSION DETECTED! ***
[06:04] <nat_> Sorry, this program is too ancient to run without
[06:04] <nat_> an explicit user action: If it's not possible to upgrade
[06:04] <nat_> you may edit the file
[06:04] <nat_>         /home/nat/.gtk-gnutella/config_gnet
[06:04] <nat_> and set the variable "ancient_version_force" to
[06:05] <nat_> "gtk-gnutella/0.96.1 (2006-02-22; GTK2; Linux i686)".
[06:05] <nat_> You will then be able to run this version forever, but
[06:05] <nat_> please consider upgrading, as Gnutella is an evolving
[06:05] <nat_> network in which ancient software is less useful or even
[06:05] <nat_> harmful!
[06:05] <Pici> !paste | nat_
[06:05] <ubotu> nat_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:05] <nat_> *** EXITING ***
[06:05] <variant> nat_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[06:05] <soundray> swanyl: well, the change has gone through this time, but it obviously doesn't make a difference. Did you try the sound after booting from the desktop CD?
[06:06] <ale1> what does ew mean?
[06:06] <variant> ale1: as in , Ewww, gross
[06:06] <mEck0> Hi! I'm interested in contribute to ubuntu (or gnome, kde...) but wonder where I should turn?
[06:06] <sire1> Where can I define custom xterm colours?
[06:06] <swanyl> nope i haven't i installed straight away
[06:06] <ale1> what makes it ew?
[06:06] <variant> micke: in what way contribute? code? graphics?
[06:06] <variant> ale1: it's vista, Ewwwwww
[06:06] <nat_> ok...did it
[06:07] <nat_> try to load it again?
[06:07] <variant> nat_: yep
[06:07] <Pici> !contribute | mEck0
[06:07] <ubotu> mEck0: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[06:07] <coffeegrindah> ok this is driving me up the wall here, I can format my USB key to Fat 12 / 32 But not ext2 or ext3 why?
[06:07] <ale1> i know, i'm not a fan of windows, but i haven't worked with vista, i'd like to see what it's all about
[06:08] <mEck0> ubotu, thx
[06:08] <padla> Hi, I'm looking for a file utility like krusader (twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE) on gnome any idea?
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <SloggerKhan> vista is impressive if you come from XP. Not so much if you come from mac.
[06:08] <mEck0> Pici, what do you mean with "!contribute | mEck0" ?
[06:08] <nat_> still nothing. It worked the first time I installed it 2 days ago. Since then it hasn't worked
[06:08] <parmenides> I am getting invalid kernel error when I try to install server...is the iso defective?
[06:08] <limasdf> limasdf@limasdf-desktop:~$ java -jar jateon.jar
[06:08] <limasdf> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jateon.jar
[06:08] <nat_> said I had a firewall or something
[06:08] <Pici> mEck0: That prompted ubotu to give that information about paritipating to you
[06:08] <ale1> so do u know how i could go about putting vista on my second hd?
[06:09] <mikeg8> anyone know why when i run 'sudo makde-kpkg module_image' it says my UTS realese version in include/linux/version.h is "", and doesn't match "2.6.20.3-ubuntu1" ? i'm on feisty
[06:09] <mEck0> Pici, aha, thx for the information!
[06:09] <Shaffox> !chmod
[06:09] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:09] <Pici> mEck0: ubotu is a bot
[06:09] <variant> ale1: ask in #windows
[06:09] <swanyl> soundray..... should i just give up? been at this all day :(
[06:09] <OuZo> is there html to pdf converter?
[06:09] <variant> OuZo: html2pdf at a guess
[06:09] <dyrne> parmenides: id do a md5 check and make sure you burn at lowest speed if you redo
[06:09] <fbarcenas> What is the equivalent of ACCESS for LINUX?
[06:09] <SloggerKhan> I've heard the best way to install vista is pull the 1st drive while you install on the 2nd.
[06:09] <mEck0> Pici, ahh, I see
[06:09] <soundray> swanyl: I'm just looking at bug reports on launchpad. There seems to be one similar
[06:10] <swanyl> k
[06:10] <soundray> swanyl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/94333
[06:10] <micke> hello, could someone help me out a little. i just upgraded to feisty, and i cant find how to change language in gnome-panel to swedish. my language work in all programs, just not in gnome-panel.
[06:10] <Pici> OuZo: Theres an html2ps converter and a ps2pdf converter
[06:10] <xtknight> anyone know what happens after pnm2ppa creates an HP PPA file?  how is it then printed after the data streams to stdout?
[06:10] <variant> SloggerKhan: I heard that the best way was: open bin, place in bin, close bin :)
[06:10] <foutrelis> fbarcenas: OpenOffice.org Database I guess :)
[06:10] <SloggerKhan> That's really good too!
[06:10] <xtknight> basically i want to reverse page order for my printer, any idea?
[06:10] <arvedui> where does edubuntu store the x config?
[06:10] <limasdf> Q : if i want execute jar file in ubuntu
[06:10] <SloggerKhan> Nobody ever listens when you tell them that, though.
[06:10] <Pici> arvedui: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:10] <xtknight> arvedui: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:10] <soundray> micke: join #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions
[06:10] <variant> arvedui: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:10] <lugod> OuZo: there are many options; any easy one is to print to file from firefox, then run ps2pdf on the resulting .ps file
[06:10] <limasdf> Q : what i installed first?
[06:10] <fbarcenas> foutrelis, Can I build applications with it?
[06:11] <Desmaano> ey guys
[06:11] <micke> soundray: ok, thanks
[06:11] <limasdf> what i need to install
[06:11] <nat_> it doesn't seem to have made a difference
[06:11] <foutrelis> fbarcenas: I have never used it.
[06:11] <limasdf> to execute jar file
[06:11] <foutrelis> !crossoffice
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossoffice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <variant> !version
[06:11] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[06:11] <foutrelis> hmm nope :(
[06:11] <OuZo> lugod: thnks :)
[06:11] <variant> nat_: run lsb_release -a and tell me output
[06:11] <ale1> to install my second hdd do i want it to set as slave or cable select?
[06:12] <Pici> ale1: Depends, but #hardware would be the place to ask that question.
[06:12] <ale1> ok, thanks
[06:12] <soundray> crimsun: are you available to have a look at a sound problem I can't crack (swanyl)
[06:12] <swanyl> its a bit different he's getting no sound i'm getting sound but its just like a scratched cd when it gets stuck
[06:12] <soundray> ?
[06:12] <foutrelis> fbarcenas: There is an application that lets you run Office in linux. So if you are not satisfied with OpenOffice.org Database look at that :)
[06:12] <grhunter> fbarcenas: openoffice.org base is very similar to Access.
[06:12] <limasdf> gij ??
[06:12] <Desmaano> Question; How do i set up a file server for windows and mac systems??
[06:13] <nat_> says no LSB modules are available.
[06:13] <fbarcenas> foutrelis, That would defeat the purpose, I want to write opensource database code.. I want to create database apps that don't rely on Microsoft.
[06:14] <JiBEsH> So no one could get me help for: "How can i emulate a Cisco 3620 router with 2 serial and 2 Ethernet connections with dynamips ?"
[06:14] <Ayabara2> I need to use the ac97_quirk=hp_only for the volume hotkeys on my Inspiron laptop to work. I _always_ forget which file to set it in. Can someone help me out?
[06:14] <nat_> distributor ID: Ubuntu
[06:14] <nat_> Description: Ubuntu 6.06.1 lts
[06:14] <nat_> Release 6.06
[06:14] <nat_> Codename dapper
[06:15] <nat_> that's it
[06:15] <Draconicus> Hey there. I just built a fairly powerful machine for my little brother, and I'm putting Ubuntu on it. In the past I've had trouble with nodes in Edgy. Have there been recent updates to it? Should I go with Dapper?
[06:15] <Pici> Draconicus: nodes?
[06:15] <Draconicus> device nodes.
[06:15] <Draconicus> Namely wireless controllers and such, but it could happen to anything, I'd imagine, if the problem isn't driver-related.
[06:16] <Draconicus> And it probably isn't, since Dapper used the same driver and didn't have the problem. Anyway, this isn't about that problem, it's about whether I should put Edgy or Dapper on it.
[06:16] <swanyl> just back from the toilet any news?
[06:16] <paozinho> i will install herd 7.04, how i copy my firefox Favorites ????
[06:16] <soundray> swanyl: there are a few guys here who are better than I with sound. Try asking again in the evening (GMT).
[06:16] <Johno> I have a problem
[06:16] <swanyl> k
[06:16] <foutrelis> fbarcenas: Take a look at OpenOffice.org Database. It could be what you're looking for. If not, you can ask here again and someone who is into this stuff will be more help to you. :)
[06:16] <nat_> it doesn't say output
[06:17] <Pici> Draconicus: Well, I'd go with Edgy, since its more recent. I havent had any problem with devices on my computer.
[06:17] <Ayabara2> anyone? where do I set ac97_quirk stuff?
[06:17] <Desmaano> paozino: export and import favorites in firefox
[06:17] <Draconicus> This is a computer I want to leave him when I move away. He'll no doubt be upgrading it to newer versions eventually, but I want to make sure it's reliable.
[06:17] <gabriela> hello :)
[06:17] <nat_> lsb_release -a
[06:17] <soundray> paozinho: listen to Desmaano, or backup your entire /home
[06:17] <Crescendo__> Is it just me or does the Digg submit a new story page slow down Ubuntu to a nearly unusable speed?
[06:17] <Draconicus> Pici: Newer isn't always better. :P
[06:17] <Pici> Draconicus: Also, it will be much easier to upgrade to 7.04 from Edgy than from Dapper.
[06:17] <fbarcenas> foutrelis,  OK.. hopefully there will be something like "openoffice database for dummies" I can buy at the book store.
[06:18] <paozinho> Desmaano: dont have "export" in firefox =// only import
[06:18] <Crescendo__> fbarcenas, check Barnes and Noble, Borders
[06:18] <Draconicus> Pici: You prove a valid point. Since 7.04 is coming up soon, I'll go with Edgy.
[06:18] <nat_> says I don't have lsb modules
[06:18] <OuZo> lugod: do you know the directory that firefox prints to? is it home?
[06:18] <nat_> is that a problem?
[06:18] <rcmiv> is it a good idea to extend the 'timeout' value in dhclient.conf, if I am occasionally losing internet connectivity from my ISP?
[06:18] <Johno> I tried to start the ubuntu live cd on an older computer and it would not load.... If I upgraded the memory would it load?
[06:18] <Desmaano> paozinho: i doubt that, i used it once, let me check it for you
[06:18] <soundray> OuZo: normally, yes
[06:18] <paozinho> Desmaano: thank you
[06:19] <lugod> OuZo: it defaults to your home
[06:19] <Desmaano> Johno: its possible, but you can also install ubuntu by the 'alternate' cd
[06:19] <lugod> OuZo: you should get a save-file dialog to pick the location when you click print
[06:19] <soundray> paozinho: Bookmarks-Organize Bookmarks, then File menu
[06:19] <Desmaano> Paozinho: like soundray says :)
[06:19] <nat_> is it possible to just use another file sharing program? This is so complicated
[06:19] <Draconicus> By the way, I think you guys switched to gscreensaver way too early. It's pretty lousy at the moment in that it lacks many screensavers and is generally incompatible with xscreensavers.
[06:19] <Johno> Desmaano: How would I do that?
[06:19] <paozinho> soundray: thank you
[06:20] <Crescendo__> nat_, what are you using right now?
[06:20] <paozinho> Desmaano: thank you too
[06:20] <hole> how xan i make vlc my default player for avi's im using ubuntu 6.06
[06:20] <paozinho> Desmaano, soundtray: im going to ubuntu 7.04 thank you all !
[06:20] <Crescendo__> Draconicus, I completely agree
[06:20] <Draconicus> Also, its randomization feature can't be selective, which I find to be very irritating.
[06:20] <coffeegrindah> Is there any reason why I can't format my USB drive in ext2? I've been tring all morning and mkfs.ext2 or gparted worn't but niether gives any errors .. It just site for what seems like 15 minutes..
[06:20] <Pici> Draconicus: I happen to agree with you on that one
[06:20] <Desmaano> Johno: download the alternate cd and burn it, it install ubuntu but without first trying it out
[06:20] <nat_> I have gtk-gnutella but it won't load. I have frostwire, but it won't load
[06:20] <xtknight> where would i modify the startup parameters for the CUPS daemon?
[06:20] <soundray> Draconicus: who are you talking to?
[06:21] <Johno> Desmaano: ok I will try that
[06:21] <Desmaano> Johno: used alternate cd because i had a system to that wasen't strong enough to run Ubuntu from the cd
[06:21] <Draconicus> soundray: People in general who care and any developers that might be listening that could put a word in to the right people.
[06:21] <soundray> Draconicus: if you are suggesting an improvement, file a wishlist bug
[06:21] <Draconicus> First thing I do with Dapper or Edgy when using straight Ubuntu is remove gscreensaver and replace it with xscreensaver. :P
[06:21] <Draconicus> soundray: It's not really an improvement. Most people see it as a downgrade.
[06:21] <soundray> Draconicus: this channel isn't the best forum for that kind of request
[06:21] <Crescendo__> Draconicus, Pici, soundray  - I personally find that the gscreensaver's lack of ability to edit the settings for each screensaver is most irritating
[06:21] <Draconicus> soundray: Honestly I'm just making on-topic chitchat.
[06:21] <soundray> coffeegrindah: can you pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l' output pls
[06:22] <Johno> Desmanno: so it should work even though its older?
[06:22] <coffeegrindah> Soundray sure I'll be empty -- Just removed all partitions
[06:22] <Desmaano> Johno: if it's not a commodore it will work :P
[06:22] <Draconicus> Crescendo__: I think you can tinker with the .desktop files and adjust some settings there. All in all, though, it ought to still be called a beta.
[06:22] <Johno> Desmaano: lol
[06:22] <Desmaano> Johno: No just kidding, slowest system i tried was a 333Mhz system
[06:23] <Pici> Johno: How old are we talking?
[06:23] <rm_you> Does UCK have an IRC channel?
[06:23] <Crescendo__> Draconicus, yep - something that I've always thought was not exactly the most user friendly.
[06:23] <coffeegrindah> Soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529/
[06:23] <Draconicus> Desmaano: Har. I managed to get it to install on a 486. Didn't run very well, though.
[06:23] <gabriela> how do i configure the menu panel to have the gaim icon (not the launcher button) ?
[06:23] <Johno> Pici: I'm not sure it was a pavilion with windows me on it
[06:23] <Pici> Johno: Should be fine, try using the Alternative CD
[06:24] <rm_you> If I made a LiveCD using UCK and now I need to make revisions to it, do I just go through the whole thing again except with my old custom image as the base?
[06:24] <Desmaano> Draconicus: i run Ubuntu on a Imac G3 and it works suprisingly good :)
[06:24] <Draconicus> Crescendo__: Certainly something that doesn't belong in Ubuntu, since it's supposed to be the user friendly distro and all. :P
[06:24] <limasdf> how can i install java virtual machine
[06:24] <Johno> Pici: ok thanks
[06:24] <Draconicus> Desmaano: I ran Ubuntu on an oldworld G3 Powermac and it ran great with BootX.
[06:24] <limasdf> in reposite
[06:24] <Pici> !java | limasdf
[06:24] <ubotu> limasdf: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:24] <limasdf> thx~~
[06:24] <limasdf> pici
[06:24] <limasdf> !java
[06:24] <Johno> Pici: Do you think I would be able to support beryl?
[06:24] <Crescendo__> Draconicus, yep - and I love how this isn't #ubuntu-support -
[06:24] <Draconicus> Desmaano: 233MHz.
[06:24] <downstairs> help: "Disk Write Error - Null Pointer Exception" in Azureus
[06:24] <Desmaano> bootx in stead of grub you mean ?
[06:24] <downstairs> help: "Disk Write Error - Null Pointer Exception" in Azureus
[06:24] <Pici> Johno: Probably not, but you could try
[06:25] <Draconicus> Crescendo__: What difference would that make? This isn't about support. :P
[06:25] <soundray> coffeegrindah: you should probably be calling mke2fs with sudo
[06:25] <Johno> Pici:ok
[06:25] <Desmaano> !beryl
[06:25] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:25] <Draconicus> Crescendo__: Though the channel is. The topic clearly says so.
[06:25] <Crescendo__> Draconicus, frankly - I think it'd be best to port everyone who's here for help to #ubuntu-support rather than this channel - it's unusable with this many users
[06:25] <Johno> I know what it is
[06:25] <coffeegrindah> soundray: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11532/
[06:25] <soundray> coffeegrindah: (I'm referring to your older post right now, 11526)
[06:25] <spheard> You know if you have some kind of daemon that you run in a cli
[06:25] <Johno> Pici: I cant find the alternate cd download
[06:25] <Draconicus> Crescendo__: Well, there's a #ubuntu-offtopic, I think. Let's go there.
[06:25] <Desmaano> !fileserver
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fileserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <Desmaano> !raid
[06:26] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:26] <enio>  how i see user to right of screen with xchat?
[06:26] <soundray> coffeegrindah: okay, now 'sudo mkfs.ext2 -b 4096 -L casper-rw /dev/sda2'?
[06:26] <Pici> Johno: On the download page, theres a place to check for different servers, pick the one closest to you and then the alternative cd from that page
[06:26] <fbarcenas> I found a bug, but I'm not even sure how to go about reporting it. If you use the basic ubuntu install with evolution and bogofilter all works fine. But as soon as you do all the update from 6.10 forward bogofilter begins to terminate unexpectedly. I forced me to download, compile and install an update version of bogofilter to fix the problem. Who should I report the issue to, UBUNTU or BOGOFILTER?
[06:26] <Desmaano> how to set-up a software raid 1 (mirroring right"?) with ubuntu ??
[06:26] <nat_> is it possible to download music with Ubuntu?
[06:26] <Crescendo__> Draconicus, maybe I'm just old fashioned - but isn't talk about Ubuntu ontopic in #Ubuntu?
[06:26] <Johno> Pici: ok thanks
[06:26] <Pici> fbarcenas: Log it on https://launchpad
[06:26] <Draconicus> Crescendo__: XD
[06:27] <Crescendo__> Draconicus, ;)
[06:27] <coffeegrindah> ok .. it's seeming to work.. my problem now is going to be the mounting
[06:27] <Pici> Crescendo__: No, #ubuntu is for Ubuntu Support, everything else should go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:27] <soundray> fbarcenas: on launchpad.net, against package bogofilter
[06:27] <Draconicus> Crescendo__: I miss the old days. Remember Breezy? I still have some Breezy systems kicking around. That was when I joined the Ubuntu bandwagon.
[06:27] <fbarcenas> soundray, Pici, k
[06:27] <enio>  how i see user to right of screen with xchat?
[06:28] <downstairs> help: "Disk Write Error - Null Pointer Exception" in Azureus
[06:28] <nat_> Can anyone help me with my urgent problem. I can't use gtk or frostwire is there something else I can try?
[06:28] <Desmaano> hey experts: please help me :)
[06:28] <downstairs> frostwire is a laggy POS
[06:28] <apokryphos> !helpme
[06:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:28] <kontingenz> hi, I need help bout evolution. Since I have added a wrong address for a global address list evolution seems to run but won't start the app-windows. What can I do?
[06:28] <soundray> !raid > Desmaano
[06:28] <Crescendo__> Yeah, same same, Draconicus.  Pici - the massive amount of users here destroys that - it might not be canon, but it'd be easier for the user (as per the Ubuntu mission) if it were #ubuntu-support
[06:28] <Desmaano> !raid
[06:28] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:29] <Johno> Pici: Are there themes you can download for ubuntu?
[06:29] <downstairs> so no #ubuntu-support exists?
[06:29] <soundray> !goodbotuse > Desmaano
[06:29] <Agrajag> downstairs: this IS a support channel.
[06:29] <Crescendo__> downstairs, I'll find out
[06:29] <neozen> well all... its noon
[06:29] <Draconicus> Crescendo__: While it was really for apache, I just caught Pici giving a user support in #ubuntu-offtopic. XP
[06:29] <coffeegrindah> soundray: Big thanks.. I had to do do mke2fs and it worked right away, I've been trashing the usbdrive making a custome Live Persistant install..
[06:29] <Pici> Johno: Sure
[06:29] <downstairs> help: "Disk Write Error - Null Pointer Exception" in Azureus
[06:29] <Desmaano> soundray: it is about a hardware raid set-up
[06:29] <Pegasos989> Heya. I was wondering what is the best way if I want to resize a partition that Ubuntu is installed on? Should I reboot from the CD and do something there or is there another way?
[06:29] <Pici> !themes | Johno Take a look at these links
[06:29] <ubotu> Johno Take a look at these links: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:29] <Desmaano> soundray: sorry, it is about software:P
[06:30] <Crescendo__> Draconicus, downstairs - silly IRC!  There must be a mistake1   * #ubuntu-support #ubuntu :Forwarding to another channel
[06:30] <Pegasos989> This is a fresh install so it is not fragmented or anything.
[06:30] <neozen> which means its time once again for me to jump into my car and scare the #@$@# out of the people in the oncoming lane again.... I shall return later
[06:30] <downstairs> help: "Disk Write Error - Null Pointer Exception" in Azureus
[06:30] <Draconicus> Crescendo__: Ahahaaa...
[06:30] <soundray> !repeat | downstairs
[06:30] <webwolf_27> Pegasos989, it hardly matters if linux filesystems are fragmented
[06:30] <ubotu> downstairs: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:30] <arvedui> can i copy my xorg.conf to correct a x problem in sarge installation?
[06:30] <Johno> Pici: So I could use any gnome based themes?
[06:31] <hugo> Hi all!
[06:31] <fbarcenas> ubotu, thank you, I was feeling ignored.. :-p
[06:31] <downstairs> ubotu, get your robot ass outta here
[06:31] <webwolf_27> downstairs, apears to be a bug, I have the same problem
[06:31] <arvedui> can i?
[06:31] <Pici> Johno: Seeing as the default window manager for Ubuntu is Gnome... Yes.
[06:31] <arvedui> can i copy my xorg.conf to correct a x problem in sarge installation?
[06:31] <soundray> arvedui: join #debian for Debian questions
[06:31] <downstairs> webwolf, what torrent client should i use instead?
[06:31] <neozen-errands> fbarcenas: ..umm... thats a bot
[06:31] <arvedui> ok
[06:31] <Johno> Pici: ok
[06:31] <Crescendo__> Ubuntu seems to have fallen within the suckage that is the rest of the Linux community, sadly - looks like it's becoming just another distro. :(
[06:31] <arvedui> sounray: ok, thanks
[06:31] <ardchoille> Pici: The default desktop in Ubuntu is gnome, the default window manager is metacity
[06:31] <webwolf_27> downstairs, I use bittorrent
[06:31] <downstairs> huh?
[06:32] <Pici> ardchoille: Well... I wasn't getting into specifics :)
[06:32] <downstairs> you use bittorrent's default client?
[06:32] <webwolf_27> downstairs, look though synaptic, there are plenty to choose from
[06:32] <fbarcenas> Crescendo__,  not TRUE.... its becoming the BEST DISTRO...
[06:32] <soundray> Crescendo__: can you PLEASE take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:32] <neozen-errands> downstairs: yeah.. it works
[06:32] <downstairs> what do u mean
[06:32] <neozen-errands> downstairs: I use it on my console-only server
[06:32] <cvk77> !info amarok > philipp__
[06:32] <ardchoille> Pici: I wanted to make that distincion because some folks get confused between gtk2 themes and metacity themes
[06:32] <Pici> ardchoille: Understood.
[06:32] <downstairs> neozen, you use which BG client?
[06:33] <downstairs> BT client
[06:33] <Pegasos989> webwolf_27, okay. Well, I am quite new to linux. (Or not. I install it every once in a while, get pissed at Wine and Cedega and forget the thing again)
[06:33] <hugo> Why ubuntu puts totem-xine in edgy-updates section and totem in edgy?
[06:33] <neozen-errands> downstairs: the standard bittorrent client (the command line one) once you get used to it its not so bad
[06:33] <downstairs> totem sucks - VLC is the best
[06:33] <downstairs> well neozen... not yet for me :D
[06:33] <Johno> Pici: should I dl v.7 or v. 6.1?
[06:33] <fbarcenas> downstairs, I second that!
[06:33] <greig_> whats the best and easiest program to use to mount iso's etc?
[06:33] <Draconicus> downstairs: *high-fives*   keep it to yourself, though. :P
[06:33] <neozen-errands> downstairs: but for a graphical one I use the newest version of Azureus
[06:33] <ardchoille> greig_: mount
[06:33] <neozen-errands> downstairs: as in... the one off their site
[06:33] <soundray> greig_: mount
[06:34] <hugo> the problem is.. if the man havent universe in edgy-updates he cannot update totem, which stays in edgy only
[06:34] <downstairs> yeah but command line?
[06:34] <neozen-errands> downstairs: not the one in the repos
[06:34] <webwolf_27> Pegasos989, I did that too for a long time, then I started using Native apps and decided I don't need wine for much of anything (I don't game much though)
[06:34] <ale1> could anyone give me a hand with installing vista on my slave drive?
[06:34] <Pegasos989> Anyways. So, anyone happens to know a good (and preferrably easy ;) ) way to resize the partition I have this thing installed on or should I boot from disk and try to do it there?
[06:34] <Pici> Johno: Download what?
[06:34] <downstairs> well for now i wanna stay with a gui client
[06:34] <doseryder> if you alt + ctrl + f1, how do you go back to the gui desktop (gnome)
[06:34] <ardchoille> doseryder: alt+ctrl+f7
[06:34] <downstairs> azuereus is problematic, so screw it, ubuntu's default client also gave problems
[06:34] <Johno> Pici: The version of ubuntu
[06:34] <greig_> soundray : so is that a command or a program i need to dload?
[06:34] <downstairs> what other client should i use?
[06:34] <neozen-errands> downstairs: well in that case, I highly recommend azureus if you have the ram to feed it
[06:34] <webwolf_27> Pegasos989, gparted from a live cd, do NOT resize mounted partitions
[06:34] <Pici> Johno: Oh, 6.10 is stable right now, 7 is not yet released
[06:34] <neozen-errands> downstairs: what version of azureus did you use?
[06:34] <soundray> greig_: it's a command that you need to use in order to mount an iso
[06:35] <doseryder> ah... ic, i tried startx but apparently it saids the server already started on display 0
[06:35] <downstairs> neozen, azuerus give me errors
[06:35] <doseryder> ardchoille thx
[06:35] <soundray> !iso > greig_, please read ubotu's private message
[06:35] <Johno> pici: ok
[06:35] <neozen-errands> downstairs: what version?
[06:35] <downstairs> Neozen: "Disk Write Error - Null Pointer Exception" in Azureus
[06:35] <greig_> ah right, well i do actually have a script i dloaded to mount and unmount so i believe i may have that..
[06:35] <downstairs> most current
[06:35] <Pegasos989> webwolf_27, okay. Thought that might be the best idea but just wanted to check. Thanks. -->
[06:35] <eV64> feisty beta should be out today https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[06:35] <neozen-errands> downstairs: wow
[06:35] <cvk77> !feisty
[06:35] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:35] <hugo> downstairs, what software are you using to see videos from the browser?
[06:35] <kkrusty> Very odd... a little while ago my edgy installation was giving "too old client" for subversion while connecting to sourceforge, but now it seems to work fine
[06:35] <neozen-errands> downstairs: are you saving to a fat32 drive?
[06:36] <neozen-errands> downstairs: or partition?
[06:36] <downstairs> no, NTFS
[06:36] <kkrusty> and i didnt do anything
[06:36] <neozen-errands> downstairs: well... duh
[06:36] <downstairs> wait
[06:36] <downstairs> no
[06:36] <webwolf_27> Pegasos989, What windows apps are you tring to use from wine? Sometimes one needs a pointer on replacements
[06:36] <downstairs> not ntfs
[06:36] <greig_> soundray : thanks, i do indeed have a script that use's that command, have u experience with wine at all?
[06:36] <neozen-errands> downstairs: linux no likey ntfs
[06:36] <downstairs> not ntfs :D
[06:36] <soundray> kkrusty: well, maybe sourceforge did something
[06:36] <neozen-errands> downstairs: LOL
[06:36] <unit3> Ugg, I just tried updating to Feisty to do some package testing, and update-manager segfaulted in the middle, and now apt segfaults whenever I try to run it so I'm stuck halfway upgraded.
[06:36] <hermit_> hi all, I am wondering how do I configure my terminal to launch a program from a single command? any websites you could recommend?
[06:36] <unit3> Any advice anyone?
[06:36] <downstairs> hugo, I use VLC
[06:36] <soundray> greig_: only very little. Ask the channel
[06:36] <neozen-errands> all hail nogui MPlayer!
[06:36] <soundray> unit3: join #ubuntu+1
[06:36] <Draconicus> You know, I don't like how you have to fight your way through a bunch of links just to get to the alternate install disc these days.
[06:36] <downstairs> neozen, i use whatever is the default file systrem of ubuntu
[06:37] <unit3> soundray: thanks
[06:37] <neozen-errands> downstairs: hmmmmmmmmmmm
[06:37] <Desmaano> how comes Ubuntu don't see my drive sizes ??
[06:37] <neozen-errands> downstairs: that's quite a pickle you've got there
[06:37] <downstairs> yeah
[06:37] <greig_> I have a problem, Im installing a game Call of Duty, and when i need to insert disc 2 i cannot open cd drive to insert 2nd disc, is there a way around this?
[06:37] <greig_> win^^^^
[06:37] <soundray> Draconicus: can you PLEASE take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:37] <downstairs> so i wanna use a different bt client
[06:37] <greig_> wine***
[06:37] <kkrusty> soundray: Well im getting paranoid. I also see a package "file" when i apt-get upgrade
[06:37] <downstairs> i could use uTorrent with Wine
[06:37] <neozen-errands> downstairs: what java runtime are you using?
[06:37] <downstairs> dunno
[06:37] <eV64> ooh, feisty beta delayed for a day due to kernel issues
[06:38] <neozen-errands> downstairs: that does work
[06:38] <Draconicus> soundray: It's about Ubuntu, though!
[06:38] <downstairs> well
[06:38] <soundray> kkrusty: is that a problem?
[06:38] <soundray> Draconicus: it's not about support, though!
[06:38] <neozen-errands> downstairs: I used to do it.... before I got azureus working
[06:38] <downstairs> how do i make sure i got the latest version
[06:38] <webwolf_27> downstairs, bittorrent and firefox is all you need
[06:38] <hugo> downstairs, uhm...show! i didnt know about mozilla-plugin-vlc, i am seeing now! Thanks!
[06:38] <neozen-errands> downstairs: latest version of what?
[06:38] <downstairs> java
[06:38] <downstairs> webwolf, what do u mean
[06:38] <kkrusty> soundray: the problem is that i dont know whether it is a problem.
[06:38] <neozen-errands> downstairs: go to a command line
[06:38] <thepars> i'm not sure if this is they place to ask but i hope you can help...recently downloaded ubuntu and noticed GIMP...thought i'd download some brushes but when i try to extract them into the brushes folder it says that i don't have access or something...any help?
[06:39] <downstairs> btw whats a shortcut to get to the terminal?
[06:39] <Draconicus> soundray: RAWR. Name/Register your channels properly and maybe there won't be such confusion. Topic or not, this is messy.
[06:39] <neozen-errands> downstairs: type in java -version
[06:39] <neozen-errands> downstairs: tell me what you see
[06:39] <downstairs> k
[06:39] <RichiH> thepars: use sudo
[06:39] <ardchoille> !sudo | thepars
[06:39] <ubotu> thepars: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:39] <thepars> ok thanks i'll try that
[06:39] <thepars> that was quick :P
[06:40] <soundray> Draconicus: I am not the one to complain to. I am just asking you to PLEASE observe the topic. With three cherries on top.
[06:40] <downstairs> 1.4.2
[06:40] <Draconicus> soundray: Make it four. :P
[06:40] <neozen-errands> Draconicus: lol... you get used to the rapid flow of conversation
[06:40] <soundray> thepars: you should put your user brushes in $HOME/.gimp/brushes/
[06:40] <bobesponja> hey all
[06:40] <neozen-errands> Draconicus: took me a few sessions
[06:41] <downstairs> neozen: 1.4.2
[06:41] <Draconicus> neozen-errands: I've been using Ubuntu for over a year. It didn't used to be like this, you know.
[06:41] <mdolan> anyone know how to get usb sound working in feisty?
[06:41] <neozen-errands> downstairs: damn.... that's old
[06:41] <bobesponja> I reboot my winxp box and now when I do ls /media/samba_share I get ' Invalid slot'
[06:41] <bobesponja> how can I get my samba share back?
[06:41] <greig_> is there a new version of ubuntu in the pipe lines?
[06:41] <downstairs> i thought it would update automatically
[06:41] <downstairs> how do i update it?
[06:41] <neozen-errands> Draconicus: welllll now its popular
[06:41] <soundray> !feisty > greig_
[06:41] <Draconicus> neozen-errands: With great popularity comes great idiocy.
[06:41] <neozen-errands> Draconicus: thus the channel
[06:41] <greig_> soundray : thanks
[06:41] <downstairs> why the idiocy guys?
[06:41] <downstairs> what's wrong with ubuntu
[06:41] <neozen-errands> Draconicus: so be patient or begone
[06:41] <soundray> !ops | Draconicus continues offtopic
[06:42] <ubotu> Draconicus continues offtopic: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[06:42] <PriceChild> hmm
[06:42] <apokryphos> Draconicus: is ther ea problem?
[06:42] <neozen-errands> hey cool it sound
[06:42] <neozen-errands> no need to call an op
[06:42] <downstairs> hey neozen, how do i update java thru terminal?
[06:42] <apokryphos> or *there a problem, even
[06:42] <Draconicus> downstairs: Ubuntu is just dandy. It's the channel management. Please don't perpetuate this. | apokryphos: I'm trying not to offtopic-spam the channel. OCD makes that difficult.
[06:42] <neozen-errands> downstairs: tricky
[06:43] <neozen-errands> downstairs: you running edgy?
[06:43] <downstairs> yea
[06:43] <neozen-errands> !java
[06:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:43] <Draconicus> I'll just part for now. Anyone else who wants to chat about this should join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:43] <Nitro> How do I activate numlock when I start linux?
[06:43] <apokryphos> Draconicus: this is a support channel; if you just want to idly chatter, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:43] <soundray> apokryphos: massive noise due to Draconicus dragging other people into meta ubuntu discussions
[06:43] <neozen-errands> you want the sun jrc
[06:43] <neozen-errands> downstairs: you want the sun jre... trust me
[06:43] <downstairs> will this new runtime lag up my old pc?
[06:43] <eV64> downstairs, for the terminal keyboard shortcut, go to system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts, look at "run a terminal" i didnt have one set so i used ctrl shift t
[06:44] <neozen-errands> downstairs: no more then 1.4.2
[06:44] <downstairs> thanks eV64
[06:44] <downstairs> ok neozen, thanks
[06:44] <neozen-errands> downstairs: and they added generics in 1.5
[06:44] <neozen-errands> downstairs: and fixed memory leaks
[06:44] <eV64> downstairs, no problem, actually thank you because it urged me to stop being lazy and set it for myself too :)
[06:44] <downstairs> and it will be a 'newer version' not a new environment, so i wont have 2 environments running at once, correct?
[06:44] <Desmaano> how to install IDE harddisks properly ??
[06:45] <neozen-errands> downstairs: I didn't even bother installing the one in the repos and just installed the sun jdk1.6 off their site
[06:45] <downstairs> ok
[06:45] <neozen-errands> downstairs: ton of leaks fixed in 1.6
[06:45] <Johno> Does ubuntu server have samba?
[06:45] <downstairs> should i uninstall the default one?
[06:45] <eV64> Desmaano, are you having trouble with hardware? or does it work in windows too?
[06:45] <downstairs> prior to the new one?
[06:45] <thepars> sorry but i'm a bit confused with this sudo thing can anyone help me a bit further...im new to linux
[06:45] <ardchoille> thepars: What do you need to know?
[06:45] <neozen-errands> downstairs: well.. if you install the one from the repos, it should take care of it
[06:45] <Desmaano> eV64: i want to make a fileserver with a raid1 array of 2 harddisks, but ubuntu dont see the disks right
[06:46] <soundray> !sudo > thepars, please read ubotu's message and follow the links to explanations
[06:46] <Johno> !samba
[06:46] <neozen-errands> downstairs: couldn't hurt though
[06:46] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:46] <downstairs> ok so i'll just go the 'synaptic package manager' way then?
[06:46] <ardchoille> soundray: I don't think thepars  is understanding what that sudo page is saying.
[06:46] <thepars> yeah ardchoille is right
[06:46] <eV64> Desmaano, is it a sata raid controller?
[06:46] <neozen-errands> downstairs: you've added the multiverse right?
[06:46] <thepars> i'm on the page but its just going over my head
[06:46] <Desmaano> eV64: no, I want to use a software raid
[06:47] <soundray> thepars: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[06:47] <Desmaano> IDE hdd's
[06:47] <thepars> ok
[06:47] <ardchoille> thepars: /join ##ardchoille and I'll explain sudo in detail
[06:47] <eV64> Desmaano, are they both detected in bios / or windows?
[06:47] <downstairs> yeah neozen
[06:47] <Desmaano> yes, secundairy master and slave
[06:47] <Dacvak> Hey, how do I add a resolution in ubuntu without it setting it as my default?
[06:47] <neozen-errands> !java
[06:47] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:47] <greig_> when the new ubuntu is released, will it just be as an update to my current ubuntu 6.10 or a new install
[06:48] <greig_> sorry im new to linux
[06:48] <eV64> Desmaano, what does gparted show?
[06:48] <neozen-errands> downstairs: then you're looking for sun-java5-jre
[06:48] <downstairs> in the package manager or online?
[06:48] <soundray> greig_: you can update or do a fresh install from a downloaded CD
[06:48] <neozen-errands> downstairs: in the package manager
[06:48] <Johno> How do you check the md5 ?
[06:48] <downstairs> ok thanks
[06:48] <eV64> md5sum <file)
[06:48] <eV64> md5sum <file>
[06:49] <soundray> ardchoille: do you want to join thepars and me in -classroom?
[06:49] <greig_> soundray : and the update will keep all apps etc i have installed currently??
[06:49] <neozen-errands> downstairs: it SHOULD replace the jre you've currently got.... but if it doesn't ... remove the old one
[06:49] <eV64> no arrrows or anything though
[06:49] <Johno> in windows
[06:49] <neozen-errands> downstairs: so they don't argue
[06:49] <ardchoille> soundray: sure
[06:49] <Desmaano> ev64: what is gparted??
[06:49] <maharo> yipygyi8yui8yuht
[06:49] <soundray> greig_: yes, either that or it will update them
[06:49] <neozen-errands> Desmaano: a partition manager, editor, and viewer
[06:49] <maharo> yyupo soy yo
[06:50] <Desmaano> like LVM ?
[06:50] <foutrelis> maharo: huh? :\
[06:50] <greig_> soundray : cool thanks
[06:50] <neozen-errands> Desmaano: editor!
[06:50] <downstairs> how do i remove the old one
[06:50] <maharo> culooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:50] <eV64> Desmaano, it's the default gui partition editor under the ubuntu live cd.  it runs before you install the os
[06:50] <Desmaano> sorry :P
[06:50] <foutrelis> maharo: Please behave :)
[06:50] <Desmaano> i allready installed the os
[06:50] <neozen-errands> downstairs: OI
[06:50] <Stormx2> Could someone test out an ogg vorbis stream I set up? http://dython.net:7123/ I'd appreciate if I could get a yes/no on working and how much lag...
[06:50] <maharo> esternocleidomastoideo
[06:51] <maharo> hovhioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooookldhsvkjbkjbvckjbkjnbvkjhbk.ncjkn.hnijuy
[06:51] <maharo> hjgjcgjghngfcd,j.hg,jgvxhfhgdcdxzdsgvxbvcx<NGDNGFCXMA
[06:51] <downstairs> i'm sorry i dont understand
[06:51] <maharo>  MNGUKVHKJLIJHLDUS
[06:51] <maharo> OPIOIKDOIOUI
[06:51] <eV64> oh, I would think raid1 would need to be configured during install.  I'm not sure if you can change it now, unless you are adding two new drives to your current setup
[06:51] <maharo> LULIDYHH
[06:51] <Stormx2> !ops
[06:51] <maharo> UJDCILKJIDCOISJVKL
[06:51] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[06:51] <maharo> LOJFKL
[06:51] <maharo> JVKLOFJ.LDJFKL
[06:51] <maharo> N,HJVL
[06:51] <foutrelis> !ops | maharo is spamming
[06:51] <maharo> JNK,JNV.DKJ.LK
[06:51] <ubotu> maharo is spamming: please see above
[06:51] <maharo> JLKCJV.LJFVK,
[06:51] <neozen-errands> downstairs: it should be replaced
[06:51] <maharo> H,JTGFH
[06:51] <downstairs> Someone kick maharo
[06:51] <Dacvak> Is there something that will determine what resolutions my current monitor/video card will accept? I'd like to get the most out of my Widescreen monitor, but if I set a resolution myself, sometimes it doesn't work.
[06:51] <downstairs> ok
[06:51] <PriceChild> gah
[06:51] <foutrelis> Stormx2: I 'll try :P
[06:51] <Stormx2> better luck next time PriceChild ;)
[06:51] <neozen-errands> danke op
[06:51] <eV64> is it votekick ? ;-)
[06:52] <Desmaano> eV64: I allready installed Ubuntu 6.10 and want to configure my two harddisks now for a windows/mac fileserver
[06:52] <downstairs> hmmm but isn't there any decent non-java BT client?
[06:52] <eV64> Johno, http://www.kennethballard.com/modules/xproject/index.php?op=viewSummary&pid=2 for the md5 sum
[06:52] <apokryphos> !torrent | downstairs
[06:52] <ubotu> downstairs: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:52] <barnball> good golly lexmark is evil....
[06:52] <neozen-errands> there you go
[06:53] <neozen-errands> good bot
[06:53] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[06:53] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:53] <neozen-errands> lol
[06:53] <Johno> eV64: I'm folowing the instructions that the ubuntu website gave me
[06:53] <Desmaano> !botslap
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <Desmaano> :P
[06:53] <Dacvak> Any program or anything that will list your available resolutions?
[06:54] <neozen-errands> !xvidtune
[06:54] <ubotu> xvidtune: X client - xvidtune. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 100 kB
[06:54] <apokryphos> !investigate
[06:54] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:54] <Desmaano> so how do i set up a software raid1 array??
[06:54] <neozen-errands> !raid
[06:54] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:54] <kane77> !mythtv
[06:54] <eV64> Desmaano, I don't know if thre is a way to add another drive and switch to raid one if you already have ubuntu on one of the drives.  However, there is a guide for setting up ubuntu on raid 1 using the alternate install cd here http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[06:54] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[06:54] <neozen-errands> lol
[06:55] <foutrelis> Stormx2: Nice music :)
[06:55] <Desmaano> eV64: no i have 3 hdd's 1 for the OS, and the other two for the raid array
[06:55] <Desmaano> new blank discs
[06:56] <Dacvak> How can I access my Windows network?
[06:56] <eV64> !fstab | Desmaano
[06:56] <ubotu> Desmaano: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:56] <eV64> !DiskMounter | Desmaano
[06:56] <ubotu> Desmaano: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:56] <kane77> what actualy is the mythtv? is it just a program for tvtuner? (why is the install so complicated?)
[06:56] <eV64> !raid | Desmaano
[06:56] <ubotu> Desmaano: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:57] <neozen-errands> Stormx2: just now starting to lag
[06:57] <Stormx2> neozen-errands: Yeah I noticed.
[06:57] <Stormx2> neozen-errands: probably my bro, one mo.
[06:57] <Desmaano> :|
[06:57] <foutrelis> Stormx2: Same here.. Hmm should I disconnect? :P
[06:57] <neozen-errands> Stormx2: might want to drop your rate
[06:57] <eV64> kane77, I highly recommend mythtv, I just got it set up.  It is a pvr, tv viewer.  basically a digital vcr
[06:57] <ale1> does anyone know how i can install vista on my slave drive, when i have a copy of vista on my primary drive in feisty without a dvd burner?
[06:58] <neozen-errands> Stormx2: half of what you have now will still sound just fine
[06:58] <kane77> eV64, wow that sounds good... how long did it take?
[06:58] <DSpair> Anyone here working off of Feisty yet? I'm having issues with NetworkManager and wireless on my laptop.
[06:58] <eV64> kane77, It is complicated because it is powerful. There is a way to setup the frontend (computer that displays to tv) and backend (computer that records and encodes shows) separately. You just configure both to run on the same pc usually
[06:59] <BetaClone> I'm having problems with mail not being redirected to an external mail account (as defined in /etc/aliases) using postfix. Any clues for this?
[06:59] <neozen-errands> DSpair: I think there's another room for feisty
[06:59] <eV64> kane77, I'mma noob but it took me about two hours.  Would you like a link to the guide I used?  also, what tvtuner card do you have?
[06:59] <DSpair> I'll check...
[06:59] <kane77> eV64, oh well.. I'll try to :)
[06:59] <webwolf_27> ale1, changeing primary drives in Bios?
[06:59] <neozen-errands> !feisty
[06:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:59] <neozen-errands> DSpair: there you go
[06:59] <DSpair> Thanks much!!!
[06:59] <eV64> kane77, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop
[06:59] <neozen-errands> DSpair: my pleasure
[07:00] <ale1> ok but how does that allow me to install vista from one hd to another?
[07:00] <kane77> eV64, not sure.. I havent one installed yet (I needed the firewire for a while - yes, only two pci slots suck...)
[07:00] <webwolf_27> ale1, I seem to have misunderstood what you wanted to do, please explain.
[07:01] <occhiazzurri1986> pls click here http://www.itsptp.com/promote2.php?uid=2021 thanks!!
[07:01] <kane77> eV64, it's some kind of leadtek winfast...
[07:01] <eV64> kane77, they do make usb tv tuners but the most popular ones are the hauppage cards, you can get a pci one on newegg for $71 (model pvr-150) with a remote and irblaster if you need to use a cable/sat box
[07:01] <eV64> one sec
[07:01] <ale1> i have a copy of vista saved on my primary hard drive, and i want to install vista on my slave drive (which is formatted for linux), but i don't have a dvd burner
[07:02] <chainsawcarver> this may seem like a daft question, but i just downloaded a driver for my webcam qc-usb-0.6.5.tar.gz but how do you install drivers in linux?
[07:02] <eV64> kane77, the mythtv wiki here http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page has great info.  here is their page specifically on capture cards http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Video_capture_cards
[07:02] <webwolf_27> ale1, as an ISO or what?
[07:02] <kane77> eV64, I have a guide for dapper here, what setup do I want? Combined Backend, Frontend, & Regular Desktop?
[07:03] <eV64> will the computer you're installing it on be dedicated to only recording tv?
[07:03] <occhiazzurri1986> only 1 click please.....i need money...if u click my link i earn money... http://www.itsptp.com/promote2.php?uid=2021 bye!!I have to go
[07:03] <Yasuo> hi, is there an easy-to-configure, secured VPN with windows-clients? something easy like putty... Target is to surf "secure" on open hotspots/wlans using my linuxserver as gateway (some kind of secured point to point)
[07:03] <ale1> i guess i'm not sure yet, it's broken up into archives right not, i'm extracting as we speak
[07:03] <eV64> kane77, or do you use it as a general purpose pc too?
[07:04] <kane77> eV64, a general purpose with the ability to record/watch tv
[07:04] <downstairs> how do i remove aps thru terminal?
[07:04] <eV64> ok then you want Combined Backend, Frontend, & Regular Desktop
[07:05] <kane77> downstairs, sudo aptitude remove nameofapp
[07:05] <downstairs> like:
[07:05] <webwolf_27> ale1, I'm going to pretend, just for a second that that's legal, you cannot Install windows from a HDD, you will need to burn it
[07:05] <kane77> eV64, thanx... I'll be right back.. (there's hockey match on :D )
[07:05] <downstairs> sudo apt -remove bittornado ?
[07:05] <hylje> webwolf_27: hueg enterprises sure don't install windows off cd
[07:05] <eV64> downstairs, sudo apt-get remove bittornado
[07:05] <kane77> downstairs, sudo apt-get remove bittornado
[07:05] <downstairs> thanks
[07:06] <kane77> downstairs, although I like to use aptitude (instead of apt-get)
[07:06] <downstairs> ah
[07:06] <webwolf_27> hylje, I have no experience with Windows networks, but there is a such thing as a network cdrom
[07:06] <chainsawcarver> this may seem like a daft question, but i just downloaded a driver for my webcam qc-usb-0.6.5.tar.gz but how do you install drivers in linux?
[07:06] <ale1> is there a way to burn it to several iso discs with just a cdr drive?
[07:06] <downstairs> chainsawcarver, we dont want your webcam porn
[07:07] <downstairs> we cant help you
[07:07] <foutrelis> downstairs: Chill man :(
[07:07] <downstairs> just jk
[07:07] <hybernate> how can i get my dvds to play when i need libdvdcss and for some of the movies i made in Fraps i need the w32codec. is there a way to get that on this dist?
[07:07] <webwolf_27> chainsawcarver, you normally have to compile the driver
[07:07] <SnakeEye> Anyone know if Playstation 3 have x86 or x86:64 tecnology ?
[07:07] <foutrelis> downstairs: Seriously, you can't speak for 1065 people..
[07:07] <downstairs> lol
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> !dve
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd
[07:07] <chainsawcarver> how do you compile ?
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:07] <eV64> chainsawcarver, http://www.monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#installing_a_package_manually
[07:08] <chainsawcarver> ive only first time useing linux since yesterday
[07:08] <hylje> SnakeEye: ps3 is ppc
[07:08] <chainsawcarver> thx eV64
[07:08] <webwolf_27> ale1, Nothing comes to mind personaly, but if anybody else has any idea I'll happily stand asside and let him answer
[07:08] <theherbalizer> is there any way to embed a terminal into my desktop, as a widget or something like that?
[07:08] <SnakeEye> Thanks!
[07:08] <webwolf_27> chainsawcarver, what webcam do you have
[07:09] <dracony> k
[07:09] <dracony> hi guys
[07:09] <rageahol> is there any way to do a headless ubuntu server install?
[07:09] <dracony> i have a question
[07:09] <dyrne> theherbalizer: i think there are some gnome panel applets you can add
[07:09] <theherbalizer> dyrne: any names come to mind?
[07:09] <dracony> i install apackage with dpkg -i  but its not getting installed
[07:09] <rageahol> i cant figure out how to. im not really comfortable fdisk-ing over ssh.
[07:09] <dracony> no files are being extracted
[07:09] <dyrne> theherbalizer: sorry mate no clue.  but i have seen them before
[07:09] <ardchoille> dracony: Are you using sudo?
[07:09] <dracony> though i dont get errors
[07:10] <dracony> no im using su
[07:10] <theherbalizer> dyrne: or better yet, know of any websites for gnome panel apps?
[07:10] <dracony> im being root
[07:10] <chainsawcarver> i have a quickcam express
[07:10] <Yasuo> dracony,  sudo -i
[07:10] <Desmaano> can i make a raid1 array without the cd ??
[07:10] <neozen-errands> !v4l
[07:10] <chainsawcarver> logitech quickcam express
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v4l - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <neozen-errands> !video4linux
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <webwolf_27> chainsawcarver, the kernel already has a driver, you do not need to install one
[07:10] <neozen-errands> ...great
[07:10] <neozen-errands> lol
[07:11] <dracony> yasuo: and?
[07:11] <dyrne> theherbalizer: http://www.gnomefiles.org maybe but you should be able to do an apt-cache search to find also
[07:11] <theherbalizer> dyrne: ah, good idea, ty
[07:11] <chainsawcarver> ok, well i try to change webcam settings on aMSN and it says cam aint installed
[07:11] <dracony> this is stupid an idotic
[07:11] <dracony> why it says it extracts files if it does nothing?
[07:12] <webwolf_27> chainsawcarver, check gqcam
[07:12] <dracony> like any help?
[07:12] <Desmaano> can somebody give me support on making a raid1 array with ubuntu ??
[07:12] <Yasuo> dracony, you should usse sudo for being root in ubuntu. Otherwise you may get an error the people cannot follow/retrace
[07:12] <chainsawcarver> how do i do that webwolf?
[07:13] <Yasuo> Desmaano, you are plenking :)
[07:13] <dracony> yasuo: i am logged as root
[07:13] <Desmaano> plenking ?
[07:13] <webwolf_27> chainsawcarver, first install it with sudo apt-get install gqcam
[07:13] <bill_> anyone using amd64 ubuntu?  i'm trying to decide whether i want to go amd64 or i386
[07:14] <Yasuo> dracony, if you need help from the ppl here, please use the common way: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[07:14] <soundray> bill_: what are you going to use ubuntu for?
[07:14] <Desmaano> Yasuo: explain, what is plenking ?:P
[07:14] <neozen-errands> !plenking
[07:14] <PetFish> Will Feisty be officially released on the 1st of April or sometime mid month?
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plenking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <bill_> large scale data processing (multiple TB) with java1.5 and python
[07:14] <neozen-errands> what is plenking?
[07:14] <dracony> yasuo: so i have to create another user so i can sudo from him to install a deb file? 0_o
[07:15] <Yasuo> Desmaano, i duno id the english word is "plenking", but in german it means to put an whitespace between settence and "?!" etc.
[07:15] <soundray> PetFish: 19th if it goes according to plan
[07:15] <eV64> PetFish, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[07:15] <neozen-errands> ok
[07:15] <Yasuo> dracony, if you are using ubuntu sou already have a "mainuser" who can execute sudo
[07:15] <PetFish> many thanks soundray and eV64
[07:15] <Desmaano> like demanding something in stead of asking ?:P
[07:15] <dracony> ] yasuo: ok, i followed his way, got no errors, and no files installed
[07:15] <eV64> PetFish, although who knows, the beta was due today and is delayed till tomorrow
[07:15] <bill_> 1.  java must work perfectly   2.  need lots of memory  3.  sata raid arrays and usb should work
[07:16] <Yasuo> dracony, 1. what did dpkg say and 2. why do you know its notinstalled?
[07:16] <rm_you> I'm customizing a livecd  and I need it to set the time on boot with ntp... are the only packages I need "ntp" and "ntp-simple"? cause it doesnt seem to be working
[07:16] <PetFish> I see :( - I have a few problems with Edgy so was hoping Feisty may sort them. Save mucking about trying to fix my Edgy install
[07:16] <soundray> bill_: in that case, you will be better off with amd64. i386 is easier if you need certain desktop apps that are only available in 32 bit: acroread, Adobe flash player, Java browser plugin, proprietary codecs
[07:16] <eV64> Desmaano, type sudo apt-get install dmraid in terminal then look at the man page for dmraid by typing man dmraid
[07:16] <gu014> i have a domain. i am looking for a service so that i may map my domain to different IP addresses. i.e miker.mydomain.com. could anyone help me out with this? similiar to dyndns.org but using my domain?
[07:16] <clearzen> !nvidia
[07:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:17] <eV64> Desmaano, this page really will help you http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=249417
[07:17] <neozen-errands> PetFish: I feel the same way
[07:17] <dracony> yasuo: it said: preparing <deb file>, extracting <>, starting, <deb file> installed
[07:17] <bill_> i won't even be installing X on this box...  i just want to make sure i have 100% hardware support and java and python work 100%
[07:17] <neozen-errands> PetFish: edgy no likey my hardware at alll
[07:17] <PetFish> :(
[07:17] <neozen-errands> PetFish: but dapper jumped all over it
[07:18] <bill_> and i may have >4G of memory
[07:18] <iratik> The link to the upgrade guide on the wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy page just goes to the same page
[07:18] <foutrelis> gu014: Try everydns.net. Please note that this is an Ubuntu support channel.
[07:18] <soundray> rm_you: you want ntpdate as well
[07:19] <eV64> bill_, why ubuntu if you're not using any gui?
[07:19] <soundray> bill_: everything points to amd64 for you.
[07:19] <Yasuo> dracony, sounds liek it is installed. try dpkg -l|grep name
[07:20] <mbdl> hi everyone please take a look at this....when i install some apps i get thing this....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11539/ it doesnt stop the download but it making me wonder
[07:20] <Kronuz> hello
[07:20] <Dacvak> How can I check my IP address in ubuntu?
[07:20] <Dacvak> The one my router assigned.
[07:20] <wols> Dacvak: ifconfig
[07:20] <Dacvak> Thanks
[07:20] <dracony> yasuo: yes it says its installed
[07:20] <dracony> but no files are installed
[07:20] <bill_> eV64, what would you suggest? straight debian?  i just figured ubuntu would be easier  (and i might do another login server later, so consistency would be good)... also ubuntu seems to have better hardware detection stuff last i checked
[07:21] <Yasuo> dracony, if it is a program youi maybe have to relog
[07:21] <Yasuo> relogin
[07:21] <Kronuz> hey, does anyone know how or when the dmraid drivers are loaded at boot time?
[07:21] <downstairs> god bless bittornado
[07:21] <downstairs> thanks everyone!
[07:21] <disasm> bill_: get the server install cd for ubuntu
[07:21] <dracony> yasuo: perhaps you dont understand the way i put it: no files are installed
[07:21] <soundray> bill_: ubuntu has its strengths in the desktop department, but thanks to its Debian base, it makes a solid server, too.
[07:21] <eV64> disasm, good idea
[07:21] <Kronuz> is it in initrd? ('cause I had to download a newer dmraid driver for my RAID volumes to work, so I don't know how could it be that there's a working dmraid version in my initrd already)
[07:22] <bill_> disasm, isn't there just an install option for a "server"?
[07:22] <dracony> yasuo: even find / -iname cant find them
[07:22] <disasm> bill_: not on the desktop install cd
[07:22] <foutrelis> bill_: Get the Server edition :)
[07:22] <neozen-errands> downstairs: take it you found one you liked
[07:22] <Yasuo> dracony, well, then use the midnight-commander or any other program to check if the deb-file has really content
[07:22] <soundray> dracony: what do you get when you do a 'dpkg -L packagename' (the name of the .deb up to the _ )
[07:22] <neozen-errands> bill_: you'll thank yourself
[07:23] <mbdl> HELP! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11540/
[07:23] <Yasuo> m,aybe its corrupt or does not have the files you expect
[07:23] <neozen-errands> bill_: server install took up about 300mb on my drive
[07:23] <bill_> hmm, well i already have the desktop edition downloaded;  someone else downloaded the desktop version for me, and they said they were having trouble downloading the server version
[07:23] <neozen-errands> much less actually
[07:23] <eV64> bill_, tell them to select a different mirror
[07:23] <bill_> i thought you could just select server from the desktop cd
[07:23] <neozen-errands> nope
[07:23] <bill_> well i'll have to download it myself now
[07:23] <dracony> yasuo: i ttried like 5 different deb files
[07:23] <webwolf_27> chainsawcarver, just checked mine, works like a charm
[07:23] <eV64> bill_, you can, there are many mirrors for both versions
[07:24] <neozen-errands> bill_: just a sec
[07:24] <eV64> bill_, or you can buy a disc
[07:24] <soundray> bill_: no, you have to get the alternate CD
[07:24] <disasm> bill_: this is probly the link you want: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386.iso
[07:24] <neozen-errands> bill_: I'll give you mine
[07:24] <bill_> well i need it nowish :)
[07:24] <soundray> bill_: the desktop CD doesn't have server, only the alternate and server CDs.
[07:24] <nitrolinken> I did a really silly thing, and now gnome-panel is a bit angry on me.
[07:24] <psusi> hwo can you tell if eth0 is linked at 100 mbps or 10?
[07:24] <nitrolinken> How do I cahnge the icons set used?
[07:24] <nitrolinken> THrough terminal?
[07:25] <foutrelis> soundray: Hmmm. You can install apache, php, mysql, etc in Desktop
[07:25] <neozen-errands> bill_: http://dlc.bounceme.net:8000/ubuntus/ubuntu/server/
[07:25] <TSWoodV> psusi: mii-tool ethX
[07:25] <nitrolinken> Anyone? I really, really need it fixed :p
[07:25] <mbdl> nitrolinken: to change icon u would goto system....Preferences...them theme then theme details
[07:25] <neozen-errands> bill_: that's hosted on depaul university's mega-pipe
[07:25] <nitrolinken> mbdl: I said, through terminal.
[07:25] <neozen-errands> bill_: should get some nice speed
[07:25] <soundray> foutrelis: I know. But you can't install ubuntu without X with the desktop CD
[07:25] <mbdl> nitrolinken: why?
[07:25] <Matic`Makovec> Hey! Is there any alternative program that is able to connect to a Ventrillo server and actually works when needed? Vent over wine isn't really working "as intended"
[07:25] <nitrolinken> Gnome-panel can't be started
[07:26] <foutrelis> soundray: Nor with the alternate cd AFAIK
[07:26] <nitrolinken> because I clicked on an icon set, which appeard to be a cursor theme
[07:26] <mbdl> nitrolinken: u could restart the panel
[07:26] <nitrolinken> So, gnome-panel won't start!
[07:26] <bill_> yeah but i'm on a crappy T1... it'll take an hour to pull it down
[07:26] <nitrolinken> It's shut, I can't start it
[07:26] <bill_> (which i just started)
[07:26] <foutrelis> soundray: Ok I suck. There is a text install option at boot.. sorry :P
[07:26] <mbdl> nitrolinken: just a sec and ill get some command that will open it
[07:26] <soundray> dracony: what do you get when you do a 'dpkg -L packagename' (the name of the .deb up to the _ )?
[07:26] <neozen-errands> bill_: there are crappy t1's?
[07:27] <nitrolinken> mbdl: thanks
[07:27] <nickf> Hey guys, does anyone know what to do about my extra mouse buttons registering the same as middle and right click?
[07:27] <neozen-errands> nickf: man imwheel
[07:27] <soundray> !mouse > nickf, please read ubotu's private message
[07:27] <mbdl> nitrolinken: first try this "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[07:27] <psusi> TSWoodV: ty
[07:27] <neozen-errands> nickf: imwheel lets you remap other buttons
[07:28] <nitrolinken> mbdl: You do know I'll suddenly disappear from here, eh? :p
[07:28] <neozen-errands> !mouse
[07:28] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:28] <nickf> I thought imwheel just let you map mouse buttons to actions
[07:28] <nitrolinken> If it's set, I guess I'm going to get the same problem upon start
[07:28] <bill_> i only get ~900kbs (115kBs) down... its a frac t1, split with some phone lines...
[07:28] <neozen-errands> actions, keystrokes
[07:28] <neozen-errands> everything
[07:28] <neozen-errands> as I saw it
[07:28] <mbdl> nitrolinken: yes but ull haft to log back on
[07:28] <bill_> which is MUCH slower than my cable modem at home
[07:28] <neozen-errands> all based on what applicaton it is
[07:29] <nitrolinken> Yeah, but won't I get the problem then too mbdl ?
[07:29] <apocalypse> i have samba set up and my xp machine can access it by entering in the ip, but how do i make it so my samba shares will show up under "my network places" with the rest of my XP shared drives?
[07:29] <neozen-errands> bill_: ahhhhhhhh
[07:29] <nitrolinken> mbdl: Oh well, I can try.
[07:29] <mbdl> nitrolinken: well that command well restart gnome panel...um try this command it shouldnt get rid of anything just a sec
[07:30] <soundray> bill_: was I making sense about 64bit?
[07:30] <draxus> hello
[07:30] <draxus> today is the beta release of feisty?
[07:30] <Pici> apocalypse: Thats more of a ##windows question. But afaik, "My Network Places" just holds recently used file shares, that channel would have more information though.
[07:30] <soundray> draxus: join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic pls
[07:30] <draxus> thanks
[07:31] <apocalypse> Pici: oh ok thanks. i thought it was a samba thing
[07:31] <eV64> anyone here use kubuntu? i've never used kde
[07:31] <TheJackal> I recently installed edgy and have this problem related to the resolution: I can change resolution to 1280*800 which is what I want, but it doesn't render properly. I looks like it starts redrawing the screen outside of what Im guessing is the 1024*768 window. Any thoughts?
[07:32] <eV64> TheJackal, do you have binary drivers?
[07:32] <bill_> doh
[07:32] <TheJackal> eV64, no I don't, haven't installed any gfx-drivers
[07:32] <bill_> whoever just gave me that ubuntu server link gave me the i386 version
[07:32] <eV64> TheJackal, what video card do you have?
[07:33] <soundray> bill_: they probably didn't follow the conversation
[07:33] <TheJackal> eV64, the ATI mobility radeon x700
[07:33] <nitrolinken> mbdl:
[07:33] <mbdl> nitrolinken: "killall gnome-panel" then finally if that doesnt work try "apt-get --reinstall install gnome-panel gnome-panel-data" without quotes
[07:33] <eV64> !binarydrivers | TheJackal
[07:33] <bill_> soundray, 64bit is good++
[07:33] <ubotu> TheJackal: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:33] <TheJackal> eV64, cheers
[07:34] <mbdl> nitrolinken: itake it that didnt work
[07:34] <eV64> TheJackal, that may help, no prob
[07:34] <nitrolinken> mbdl: Well, I tried your /etc/.... and I can't login at all
[07:34] <nitrolinken> It jsut freezes, in revovery mode now
[07:34] <ceaser> Hey, what config file do I edit in order to set up some static routes that will load when I boot up?
[07:34] <bill_> but i need to try to get amd64 downloaded before my maintenance window starts
[07:34] <mbdl> nitrolinken: hum... well run terminal and reinstall gnome
[07:34] <disasm> nitrolinken: did you clear your .gnome and .nautilus files in homedir? not likely gnome package is actually broken
[07:35] <chazco> hi... i use Ubuntu on my desktop and find it great. I'm planning to put it on my laptop, but i need to maintain the NTFS Windows partition. Can the installer resize NTFS non-destructivly or are there issues there?
[07:35] <mbdl> nitrolinken: apt-get --reinstall install gnome-panel gnome-panel-data
[07:35] <nitrolinken> disasm: Won't I lose every singel setting then?
[07:35] <kane77> how do I remove settings for uninstalled programs?
[07:35] <soundray> bill_: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[07:35] <eV64> TheJackal, it may be a different setting in xorg.conf as well
[07:35] <rNIUS> hello all!
[07:35] <twisties> help needed with Dual-monitor setup!
[07:35] <twisties> from scratch
[07:35] <nitrolinken> Is there no way, at all, to simply change the icon theme through termn?
[07:35] <nitrolinken> Or a line in a file, that I can just edit?
[07:35] <disasm> nitrolinken: just move them out of the way and try it, don't delete them
[07:35] <TheJackal> eV64, thanks mate, checking that page out
[07:36] <mbdl> nitrolinken: no not that i know of
[07:36] <ceaser> twisties: what is wrong?
[07:36] <nitrolinken> hm.
[07:36] <nitrolinken> okey, I'll try.
[07:36] <mbdl> nitrolinken just try installing it all again ....note this wont REINSTALL EVERYHTING jsut gnome
[07:36] <twisties> I select "seperate X screen" in nvidia-settings. apply it and restart X but my second screen just goes blank
[07:36] <nitrolinken> gnome-panel*
[07:36] <Kronuz> is there a way I can mount the initrd image to see what it has, etc?
[07:36] <mbdl> apt-get --reinstall install gnome-panel gnome-panel-data
[07:36] <eV64> twisties, guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[07:37] <nitrolinken> But gnome isn't broke, it just can't load the icon theme, and therefor crashes
[07:37] <twisties> thanks dude
[07:37] <mbdl> nitrolinken: yes but it should reinstall the theme
[07:37] <mbdl> thats this part of the install "gnome-panel-data"
[07:37] <a7p> hello everyone ... does anyone know about a current soundissue with feisty? -- Sound-Output suddenly does not work anymore at my Notebook ...
[07:37] <mbdl> it should default
[07:38] <nitrolinken> mbdl: But it's not a real icon theme! It's a cursor theme.
[07:38] <nexusvr> hi
[07:38] <ardchoille> nitrolinken: You can change the icon theme from command line with: gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme "name_of_them_here"
[07:38] <disasm> nitrolinken: try moving any gnome configurations aside first, it's most likely a config ussue
[07:38] <eV64> !sound a7
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound a7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <eV64> !sound | a7p
[07:38] <ubotu> a7p: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:38] <Varsendaggr> hey whenever i have a good working system and i install all the QT crap so i get a program working that was developed for KDE  ie amorok    my  windows get all wacky   is this common?
[07:38] <nitrolinken> ardchoille: Where string is the name of the theme?
[07:38] <disasm> nitrolinken: on 2nd though, listen to ardchoille he know gnome configs ;-)
[07:38] <Userver> join #ubuntu-es
[07:38] <mbdl> nitrolinken: so what i unferstand u want to load say human theme back to the computer...well let me check if theres another way
[07:39] <ardchoille> nitrolinken: No the name of the theme goes in the double quotes
[07:39] <nitrolinken> ardchoille: ok, I'll try
[07:40] <nitrolinken> brb
[07:40] <Varsendaggr> my real question   i would like a media player that is capable of syncing with my mp3 player
[07:40] <Varsendaggr> that is native to gnome
[07:40] <nitrolinken> thanks for the help mbdl, disasm and ardchoille
[07:40] <Yasuo> Varsendaggr, hi, try rythmbox
[07:40] <Yasuo> or amarok
[07:40] <ardchoille> nitrolinken: I hope it works
[07:40] <iratik> varsendaggr: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[07:40] <nexusvr> Varsendaggr ipod ?
[07:41] <Varsendaggr> no just an mp3 player
[07:41] <nexusvr> Varsendaggr: use Amarok (KDE) or Banshee (Gnome)
[07:42] <frandavid100> hiya
[07:42] <Chamuco> I have a hard drive that has 4 partitions on  an extended partition I am trying to erase 3 partitions an make a big one
[07:42] <disasm> Varsendaggr: xmms is really nice too
[07:42] <disasm> Varsendaggr: especially if you're familiar with winamp interface
[07:42] <frandavid100> does anyone know if there's a command modifier that will allow me to launch any given command with delay?
[07:42] <nexusvr> Varsendaggr: xmms is like Winamp :)
[07:43] <nexusvr> lol sorry
[07:43] <crdlb> frandavid100, sleep 5 && command
[07:43] <umarmung> frandavid100: sleep <seconds> && command :)
[07:43] <frandavid100> wow cool crdlb
[07:43] <frandavid100> does the 5 mean 5 minutes?
[07:43] <disasm> Chamuco: do you have data on these 3 partitions you're erasing?
[07:43] <crdlb> frandavid100, seconds
[07:43] <frandavid100> oh seconds
[07:43] <nexusvr> lol Varsendaggr i agree
[07:43] <frandavid100> thanks man that was FAST :D
[07:43] <disasm> frandavid100: at
[07:44] <steven43126> anyone know how to import a html file in to an email in evolution without it stripping the css info??
[07:44] <Desmaano> ok im outta here for today
[07:44] <Desmaano> ciao
[07:44] <nitrolinken> ardchoille: If the icon theme is Micro, then I'd just enter Micro there? Because I tried, ran gdm, and it freezes on login
[07:44] <disasm> frandavid100: I think syntax is at HH:MM command
[07:45] <frandavid100> I'll check that :)
[07:45] <Chamuco> but gparted wont let me erase 2 of them because
[07:45] <disasm> frandavid100: actually, that's backwards, try at command HH:MM
[07:45] <Chamuco> disasm, no I don't
[07:45] <nitrolinken> hang on
[07:45] <ardchoille> nitrolinken: Are you sure you have the theme name spelled right? Including upper/lower case? If so, it may not be the icon theme causing the rpboelm.
[07:46] <Chamuco> it wont let me says I have to erase sda8 before 6 or 7
[07:46] <onnadi3> Hello y'all, n00b here. Is there a specific channell for Google Summer of Code enquiries or should I just blab on?
[07:46] <K3nto> !gnutella
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <K3nto> !gneutella
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gneutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <K3nto> !p2p
[07:46] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[07:46] <disasm> Chamuco: run cfdisk /dev/hda (assuming drive is hda) as root (sudo cfdisk if you don't have root account enabled). Then delete your partitions, create your new big partition, write, quit, mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdaX where X is new partition number
[07:46] <Chamuco> essentially I have sda5, 6 ,7 and want to do one partition
[07:46] <nitrolinken> heh
[07:46] <nexusvr> K3nto: try aMule
[07:47] <Chenson> Today is the Feisty Beta release, right?
[07:47] <K3nto> amule? hows GTK-Gnutella?
[07:47] <nexusvr> today i switched to Feisty... great
[07:47] <disasm> Chamuco: in that case, cfdisk /dev/sda, do the same, and mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda2 or whatever number is
[07:48] <nexusvr> K3nto: please note aMule is more secure. Said enough (lol)
[07:48] <disasm> nexusvr: I haven't seen gnome interface (fluxbox user), but other than gnucash not installing, feisty is great!
[07:48] <K3nto> lol k
[07:48] <nitrolinken> Anyone?
[07:48] <sardaukar_siet> http://iruel.net/?p=6
[07:48] <trond> Is there a command I can use to temporarily shut off all internet traffic? I use a ethernet card.
[07:48] <foutrelis> trond: sudo ifdown eth0
[07:49] <trond> foutrelis: and sudo ifup eth0 to get it running again?
[07:49] <foutrelis> trond: exactly :)
[07:49] <nexusvr> disasm: i'm a beginner but i can say that: Feisty configured my ATI X800 in few minutes :)
[07:49] <trond> thanks :)
[07:49] <foutrelis> you're welcome :)
[07:50] <Enverex> If you're using the XOrg ATi drivers, what package are the libraries contained in? (i.e. if you need to compile something that wants the openGL headers from it)
[07:50] <disasm> nexusvr: how's the bling? My laptop doesn't do bling ;-) Have a bunch of parts on the way, including a good nvidia card though, so I might check it out with that
[07:50] <frandavid100> thanks guys! later!!
[07:51] <nexusvr> Enverex: i use the fglrx packages plus the restricted modules
[07:51] <pebs> 99% [10 Packages bzip2 0]    <[07:51] <aoirthoir> is it possible to print from terminal?
[07:52] <Enverex> nexusvr, I don't use the FGLRX driver so thats no use
[07:52] <disasm> pebs: ctrl-c run it again, probly not talking to the server
[07:52] <rs8000> Is fglrx drivers required for Beryl/Compiz or will radeon drivers work
[07:52] <nexusvr> disasm: Feisty started then it said something about a "control panel" for ATI and Nvidia... configured!
[07:52] <crdlb> rs8000, radeon is better
[07:52] <crdlb> for beryl
[07:52] <disasm> pebs: as long as it's still downloading, interrupting apt won't hurt
[07:52] <swhalen> anyone know how to get google to work with fglrx?
[07:52] <pebs> disasm: hi, it happens every first time I update when I turn on my pc, from then on it works well..
[07:52] <disasm> nexusvr: any idea if it works that well 64 bit?
[07:52] <Death_Sargent> i need to find out which display number my default display is
[07:52] <nexusvr> Enverex: sorry :\ do you use the "ati" driver ?
[07:53] <crdlb> swhalen, google?
[07:53] <Enverex> nexusvr, Yes, as I said in the first place
[07:53] <swhalen> googleearth imean
[07:53] <Death_Sargent> how do i find out my display number
[07:53] <pebs> disasm: it's a bit anoying thouw
[07:53] <nexusvr> disasm: 64 bit is... well... ask the developers lol
[07:53] <Death_Sargent> ps uax | grep Xorg | grep Xgl does not work for me
[07:53] <disasm> pebs: try changing sources.list to different mirror?
[07:53] <crdlb> swhalen, in what way doesn't it work?
[07:53] <pebs> disasm: ok, I'll try that, thanks!
[07:54] <swhalen> im not shure...it dust crashes after hanging at splash...no output
[07:54] <Varsendaggr> akk   how do i sync my mp3 player with banshee   or rythm box?
[07:54] <swhalen> just*
[07:54] <crdlb> swhalen, do you have your DefaultDepth set to 24 ?
[07:54] <K3nto> nexusvr: whats a good server for amule?
[07:54] <disasm> nexusvr: I got 2 massive 320 gig hd's on the way, I think I'm going to install edgy 32 bit, feisty 32 bit, and feisty 64 bit since I have more space than I could ever fill...
[07:55] <nexusvr> K3nto: use the repos (and Synaptic)
[07:55] <Enverex> nexusvr, I'm guessing he means to connect to
[07:55] <swhalen> as far as i can tell...yes
[07:55] <nexusvr> disasm: try Fedora 64 bit. It worked (no, not flawlessy)
[07:55] <Varsendaggr> disasm, that is not true   one day you will fiull it
[07:56] <K3nto> nexusvr: huh?
[07:56] <scdeville> hello
[07:56] <disasm> nexusvr: no way... not a fan of fedora :-D if anything I'll put gentoo on it ;-)
[07:56] <nexusvr> K3nto: ok, here is the link http://ocbmaurice.dyns.net/pl/slist.pl?download/server-best.met
[07:56] <scdeville> I have a problem with my soundcard
[07:57] <swhalen> also..does anyone kunw how to get mp3 codec to work with mplayer...it says its not compiled
[07:57] <nexusvr> disasm: sorry... tried Gentoo ? Works but that compilation thing...
[07:57] <enzy> well compile it !
[07:57] <chull> i used sudo aptitude to download gnucash BUT how do I get it to open?
[07:57] <disasm> swhalen: do you have lame installed?
[07:58] <K3nto> nexusvr: what do i do with it?
[07:58] <chull> hi enzy
[07:58] <nitrolinken> okey
[07:58] <disasm> chull: right click on desktop, apps->tools->gnucash
[07:58] <enzy> hi chull
[07:58] <disasm> chull: err... your probly not using fluxbox
[07:58] <chull> ty disasm :)
[07:58] <chull> disasm, no kde
[07:58] <disasm> it should be in your apps menu somewhere in that layout
[07:58] <nexusvr> K3nto: copy & paste it in the server window of aMule. Then reload and you have the servers
[07:58] <swhalen> disam, yes
[07:59] <chull> ummmm i don't know how to find apps menu?
[07:59] <disasm> chull: that, or just run gnucash & from term
[07:59] <Enverex> If you're using the XOrg ATi drivers, what package are the libraries contained in? (i.e. if you need to compile something that wants OpenGL headers from it)
[07:59] <disasm> chull: the K menu
[07:59] <trinita> join #/ubuntu-it
[07:59] <Enverex> (open source drivers, not the FGLRC)
[07:59] <enzy> Hi i have this problem ! Can i move /home to another partition ?
[07:59] <disasm> nitrolinken: works?
[07:59] <nitrolinken> ardchoille, The command you gave me didn't give any error, but it dodn't excatly work.
[07:59] <nitrolinken> I did what you're not supposed to do
[08:00] <nitrolinken> logged in as root :p And went to .gconf /gnome/desk .... and edited the icon_themes value in the .xml to micro
[08:00] <nitrolinken> So now it should work
[08:00] <nitrolinken> :)
[08:00] <nitrolinken> bye again
[08:01] <K3nto> ok
[08:01] <nexusvr> is there a way to install KDE in Ubuntu? I mean, without KUbuntu
[08:01] <K3nto> nexusvr: where on the serever window lol
[08:01] <chull> nexusvr, r% sudo gnucash &
[08:01] <chull> [1]  10695
[08:01] <chull> vir% sudo: gnucash: command not found
[08:01] <chull> [1]   + exit 1     sudo gnucash
[08:01] <chull> vir%
[08:02] <Enverex> nexusvr, Just "kubuntu-desktop". That's all there is.
[08:02] <Nitro> Yup, it worked! :D
[08:02] <erichj> nexusvr: he means sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:02] <nexusvr> Amule (open it) --> Networks --> e2k
[08:02] <chull> good Nitro :)
[08:02] <K3nto> o nvm i got it
[08:03] <nexusvr> is there a way to install KDE in Ubuntu? I mean, without KUbuntu things. Just plain KDE
[08:03] <erichj> nexusvr: compile it from source
[08:03] <erichj> nexusvr: buy why would you want to?
[08:03] <nexusvr> K3nto: note that you should use obfuscated connections and a good ipfilter.dat. Said enough (lol)
[08:04] <Kronuz> hey, what filesystem is initrd.img in ubuntu Edgy?
[08:04] <chull> nexusvr, i feel lost
[08:04] <Kronuz> (file system type)
[08:04] <enzy> Hi i have this problem ! Can i move /home to another partition ?
[08:04] <nexusvr> erichj: i installed KUbuntu but after some time KDE stopped to work... hmm... strange
[08:04] <rs8000> wher can one find a good ipfilter.dat file that is regularly updated?
[08:04] <erichj> enzy i think yiy just create a symlink for /home to the other partition
[08:05] <erichj> yiy = you
[08:05] <nexusvr> chull: tell me
[08:05] <nexusvr> enzy: mount the partition then copy it
[08:05] <blizzkid> lo all, I have a bit of a strange problem, I can hear sound coming out of the speakers, but it sounds very faint, volume is fully open though. Any idea what could cause this?
[08:05] <chull> nexusvr, (it's chalcedony, my husband's box.. he runs kubuntu) we did aptitude to get gnucash .. where is it and how to run it?
[08:06] <erichj> chull: should be under office menu
[08:06] <Deafboy> when i boot ubuntu i just get the blank ubuntu screen, this just randomly happened to me, and i don't know what i did
[08:06] <Deafboy> i can't see my desktop but i just see the blank default screen
[08:06] <chull> erichj, ty we will take a look
[08:06] <nexusvr> chull: sudo aptitude install gnucash
[08:07] <erichj> Deafboy: ctr+alt+backspace
[08:07] <enzy> ok thx going to try :) wish me luck ! have to copy cause one disk has some issues so i hope i can complete this succesfully :x
[08:07] <Deafboy> erichj: done that many times x is broken in some way
[08:07] <chull> nexusvr, that looks more like it
[08:07] <nexusvr> enzy: DVD helps? lol
[08:07] <erichj> Deafboy: reinstall gnome desktop
[08:08] <Deafboy> erichj: like i get the blank brown colored ubuntu background
[08:08] <chull> erichj, nexusvr .. Building tag database... Done
[08:08] <chull> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:08] <chull> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:08] <chull> vir%
[08:08] <Deafboy> erichj: gdm is running but it doesn't seem to work
[08:08] <denacem> which tool would you recommend for html and php coding?
[08:08] <nexusvr> chull: just enable the repositories. Use Synaptic or install it if you want
[08:08] <Deafboy> chull: do you have terminal and synaptic open at the same time?
[08:08] <chull> denacem, vi(m) <g>
[08:09] <clearzen> Deafboy: drop to a terminal using ctrl+alt f1
[08:09] <erichj> chull: ps -ae | grep dpkg then kill -9 <process #>
[08:09] <clearzen> Deafboy: then /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:09] <denacem> chull, something easier? :)
[08:09] <Dr_J> evening all..  quick question about installing 6.10    ive got an xp partition of about 23gb and then  4gb unallocated space  if i select use the largest free space..  will it use the 4gb unallocated partition?
[08:09] <clearzen> Deafboy: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:09] <Deafboy> clearzen: i didn't mess with x though
[08:09] <clearzen> Deafboy: add sudo to the last two commands
[08:10] <clearzen> Deafboy: did you install updates before you rebooted?
[08:10] <Deafboy> clearzen: wine and some library
[08:12] <clearzen> Deafboy: I bet they broke it somehow.
[08:12] <Chamuco> disasm, I am a bit concerned, when I tried this with gparted it says can't delete sda5, 6, or & because sda8 exist and the problem is SDA8 has my ubuntu install also in another box, i took out a HD and then wouldn't restart
[08:12] <Deafboy> clearzen: i was playing around with composite on fglrx while in the beryl channel but it seemed to run just get no acceleration
[08:12] <Deafboy> clearzen: but i changed it back
[08:12] <Deafboy> anyway ill try that
[08:12] <amar> can anyone clear the me doubt regarding dis command :  find . - name '*.c'   here will * be used as wildcard or not??
[08:12] <erichj> chull: did you kill the process yet?
[08:12] <Chamuco> how can I safely remove these partitions
[08:12] <skuld> Heeeey, does anyone know how to setup a GTalk account through Gaim?
[08:12] <erichj> amar: yes it will be a wild card
[08:12] <chull> vir% ps -ae | grep dpkgq
[08:12] <chull> vir%
[08:12] <clearzen> Deafboy: If it is a settings issue you should be able to log into a desktop in single user mode. you could also try sudo telinit 1; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:12] <chull> we aren't running dpkgq
[08:12] <erichj> chull dpkg
[08:12] <erichj> no q
[08:12] <amar> erichj: but we use single quotes to strip the meaning of special characters ....... rite??
[08:13] <chull> i don't know where it got the q actually
[08:13] <erichj> amar: pretty sure
[08:13] <chull> vir% ps -ae | grep dpkg
[08:13] <chull> vir%
[08:13] <Linuturk> I sent my laptop off for repair, and it came back with a new motherboard. Now eth0 has become eth2. Is there any way to get it changed back?
[08:13] <amar> erichj: can u explain  me little more...
[08:13] <chull> still isn't running it
[08:14] <erichj> chull ok try apt-get again
[08:14] <chull> is aptitude likely to cause that same problem?
[08:14] <Enverex> If you're using the XOrg ATi drivers (the open source one), what package are the libraries contained in? (i.e. if you need to compile something that wants OpenGL headers from it)
[08:14] <skuld> Does anyone know how to setup a GTalk account through Gaim?
[08:14] <Linuturk> skuld: use the jabber protocal
[08:14] <Linuturk> skuld: there is a howto on the gaim website
[08:14] <Linuturk> skuld: gaim.sourceforge.net
[08:14] <skuld> Linuturk : Thank-you, much.
[08:14] <__mikem> Hey, auto update hung when updating ubuntu-docs. I might have to kill it off. IF I do, how do I get it to continue where it left off?
[08:15] <erichj> chull: you can try running synaptic as well
[08:15] <Linuturk> __mikem: the update manger usually picks up where it left off. I've had to do that several times.
[08:15] <chull> erichj, % run synaptic ?
[08:16] <Linuturk> __mikem: it might ask you to run a command or two in terminal
[08:16] <__mikem> okay thanks
[08:16] <Linuturk> I sent my laptop off for repair, and it came back with a new motherboard. Now eth0 has become eth2. Is there any way to get it changed back?
[08:16] <erichj> chull: system->admin->synaptic
[08:16] <Emperor_Norton> I'm trying to install the kopete desklist plugin
[08:16] <Linuturk> Can I force it to rebuild /dev or something?
[08:16] <chull> Linuturk, hope you get an answer soon :)
[08:16] <Linuturk> heh
[08:16] <Emperor_Norton> anybody know where kde is?
[08:16] <Linuturk> I've answered two others already chull :)
[08:17] <Linuturk> I must be getting good karma :)
[08:17] <Emperor_Norton> this would be better in kubuntu
[08:17] <Emperor_Norton> tara
[08:17] <Emperor_Norton> sorry
[08:17] <Emperor_Norton> :/
[08:17] <Przemek> hello
[08:17] <eV64> !kde
[08:17] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[08:18] <Dr_J> quick question about installing 6.10    ive got an xp partition of about 23gb and then  4gb unallocated space  if i select use the largest free space..  will it use the 4gb unallocated partition?
[08:18] <Jiran> I have a question about the panels
[08:18] <amar> can anyone explain me why * will be used as a wildcard even though we have used single quotes around it in dis command :  find . - name '*.c'
[08:18] <clearzen> Dr_J: yes
[08:18] <Jiran> oh my god, nevermind, I just figured it out *grumble grumble)
[08:18] <Przemek> i have one problem, I install synce and multisync witch plugins . When I`m connect PocketPC and run synce-serial-start ppc start connection bud multisync isn`t synchronize, WHY?
[08:19] <Dr_J> thought so.. just checking cause it didnt give me a graphical indication of what it was gonna do like i thought it would
[08:19] <Dr_J> ta
[08:19] <Przemek> the plugin is selected in pair
[08:19] <edward_> hi everyone... in feisty only the old edgy 2.6.17-10 kernel works for me... the new kernels say something like "VFS error cannot load OS on block 0,0"
[08:19] <amar>   ??
[08:19] <ikonia> edward_: fesity support is ubuntu+1
[08:20] <edward_> ikonia: too bad they arent very supportive
[08:20] <ikonia> edward_: they are fine
[08:20] <ferronica> Can we play DVDRip.Xvid in Totem player
[08:21] <eV64> ferronica, probably not.  try mplayer or vlc
[08:21] <socialdisorder> can any tell where the best to start would be for finding a way to get my creative external box (not sound card) to work in ubuntu?
[08:21] <DjViper> ferronica: try vlc: www.videolan.org
[08:21] <firefoxman> Are there any password mangers that are free, can fill forms, work with firefox, windows, and linux?
[08:22] <crdlb> amar, double quotes maybe?
[08:22] <eV64> socialdisorder, google search creative modelnumber linux
[08:22] <ferronica> eV64: DjViper: then what it play
[08:22] <eV64> socialdisorder, you may try ubuntu as a keyword too
[08:22] <DjViper> ferronica: almost everything
[08:22] <ferronica> eV64: DjViper: LOL
[08:22] <chull> erichj, or anyone, ireally don't know his system at all, how or where do we get to synaptic? he's got aptitude
[08:22] <eV64> ferronica, vlc supports xvid
[08:23] <ferronica> DjViper:  i have installed Gstreamer codec
[08:23] <eV64> ferronica, http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html see formats there
[08:23] <DjViper> ferronica: you dont need codecs with vlc
[08:23] <eV64> !vlc
[08:23] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:23] <ferronica> DjViper:  what is the purpose of Gstreamer
[08:24] <DjViper> ferronica: dunno
[08:24] <crdlb> ferronica, it's a media framework
[08:24] <crdlb> kind of like quicktime
[08:24] <ferronica> DjViper:  Is there any good Mp3 player
[08:24] <ferronica> DjViper:  Is there any good Mp3 player available
[08:25] <ferronica> DjViper:  Like Media monkey or winamp???
[08:25] <chull> crdlb  how or where do we get to synaptic? my husband's got aptitude
[08:25] <ferronica> DjViper:  similar to that
[08:25] <clearzen> ferronica: try amarok or vlc
[08:25] <enderxim> ferronica, I enjoy xmms for playing mp3's, but many people prefer amarok
[08:25] <crdlb> chull, synaptic is the graphical package manager in ubuntu
[08:25] <chull> crdlb, he's got KDE
[08:25] <crdlb> chull, then use adept
[08:26] <crdlb> I think it's called that
[08:26] <cyris> Hey everyone. I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 server but I keep getting this error when installing grub. The grub package failed to install into /target/. any ideas ?
[08:26] <chull> adept???
[08:26] <chull> aptitude ?
[08:26] <crdlb> chull, adept is the graphical kubuntu package manager
[08:26] <ferronica> clearzen: enderxim: i use VLC
[08:26] <firefoxman> Are there any password mangers that are free, can fill forms, work with firefox, windows, and linux?
[08:26] <chull> i see crdlb .. we will try that
[08:26] <crdlb> chull, aptitude ( and apt-get ) is the command-line version
[08:27] <Pici> firefoxman: There are firefox extensions that will do it
[08:27] <chull> ahhhh crdlb ty ty ty :)
[08:27] <jcknnm> anyone here use stumbleupon :)?
[08:28] <firefoxman> Yes, but can I export my passwords?
[08:28] <truent> hmm, i try to upgrade to feisty.. it hangs in the 'fetching and installing upgrades'   configuring php5-cli... 19 minutes remaining, of course theres no way i can press cancel or stop.. restart or anything.. what can i do?
[08:28] <cyris> can anyone help with my installation issue ?
[08:28] <Pici> firefoxman: I'm sorry, I misread your question.
[08:28] <sorush21> !vnc
[08:28] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:28] <colbert> I have my vista drive mounted, but there is a folder on it that I'd like to directly mount onto my desktop as I use it quite often, is this possible ???
[08:29] <ikonia> colbert: you can't mount a folder
[08:29] <ikonia> colbert: you can mount a share
[08:29] <colbert> ok
[08:29] <BehindYou> colbert: try a symbolic link..
[08:29] <colbert> can i make a shortcut or smth
[08:29] <truent> hah nevermind, girlfriend minimized a dialog box i needed to answer
[08:29] <chull> vir% sudo apt-get gnucash-common
[08:29] <chull> E: Invalid operation gnucash-common
[08:29] <chull> vir%
[08:29] <colbert> cuz it's just annoying to go into 5 subfolders to get to it
[08:29] <colbert> BehindYou: how ??
[08:30] <firefoxman> Pici: Should I say it again? I cannot find any ff password manager extntions on their site.
[08:30] <BehindYou> colbert: Right click, make link
[08:30] <sorush21> !freenx
[08:30] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[08:31] <socialdisorder> lol, turns out i was just an option in ALSA!
[08:31] <colbert> BehindYou: thanks that's a perfect solution :) :)
[08:32] <firefoxman> Will AI Roboform work under wine?
[08:32] <BehindYou> colbert: ur welcome.. and if it doesn't work, try making a file on your desktop (in linux) that points to your folder
[08:33] <froyd> hi peps, my vlc player only plays the audio of some video files, i installed all the codecs i could find ...any guesses ?
[08:33] <BehindYou> colbert: not sure how to do that though (try googling it)
[08:33] <Muiske> Hmm.... wat does this error mean?
[08:33] <Muiske> (synaptic:26953): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed
[08:33] <yell0w> firefoxman, tell me if you get it working
[08:33] <yell0w> hehe
[08:33] <firefoxman> Well, I dont use ubuntu yet, I am on the fence a little bit.
[08:33] <yell0w> firefoxman, there's keepass and firefox's built in password manager
[08:34] <colbert> BehindYou: Thanks.. it works perfect! :D
[08:34] <firefoxman> Ok
[08:34] <eV64> !java
[08:34] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:34] <BehindYou> colbert: no problem :)
[08:35] <ambersan> is it possible to connect to a windows server from ubuntu?
[08:35] <ikonia> yes
[08:35] <ikonia> samba
[08:35] <bill_> for some values of connect
[08:35] <ambersan> thanks ikonia
[08:35] <Sayers> how do I use the control center so boasted about in Feisty
[08:35] <chazco> hi... i plan to install Ubuntu onto my laptop (its already on my desktop). Is it possible to use apt  (for updates) on this without downloading them twice? e.g. use the packages off the desktop somehow
[08:35] <ikonia> Sayers: fesity is in #ubuntu+1
[08:35] <macpo3> I thought you only needed samba to allow windows clients to connect to a linux box?
[08:35] <clearzen> macpo3:nope
[08:36] <bill_> is ubuntu+1 worth trying?
[08:36] <kane77> hi
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> bill_: for what?
[08:37] <clearzen> does anyone know why easyubuntu is down?
[08:37] <Henning_> no idea
[08:37] <bill_> for installing on a server so i don't have to upgrade in a few weeks? :)
[08:38] <macpo3> I added my second hd (hdc1) in fstab, and created a directory /dev/hd2 as a mount point, but the drive doesn't mount when the system boots - I have to open a terminal and "sudo mount /dev/hdc1" ... anyone know how I can make the system mount it on bootup?
[08:38] <chazco> i'm on limited bandwidth so downloading updates twice is a problem.
[08:38] <clearzen> macpo3: /dev/hd2 is not a valid mount point
[08:38] <Henning_> :see ya
[08:38] <clearzen> macpo3: try /media/hd2
[08:38] <macpo3> ok .... what would be a "valid mount point"
[08:39] <macpo3> for a hard disk?
[08:39] <macpo3> ok
[08:39] <addams> Guys, when I use the back arrow key in firefox, it looks weird
[08:39] <clearzen> macpo3: so it would look like /dev/hdb1 /media/hd2
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> bill_: ...development version on a server?  Well, as long as you don't need the server to actually stay up.
[08:39] <addams> like if I'm typing, and I use the back arrow key to fix something, it gets all garbled, i hate it
[08:40] <bill_> tonyyarusso, well, i was under the impression that is was pretty close to being ready for the next release
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> chazco: For maintaining multiple machines, you could look into apt-mirror
[08:40] <chazco> apt-mirror - will have a look :)
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> bill_: It is, but we don't recommend using things before release without expecting it to break at any time.
[08:41] <disasm> bill_: go with dapper
[08:41] <cheeseboy> how to i make my pendrice not active?
[08:41] <darkusurp> hi all
[08:41] <scv> hi
[08:41] <addams> is my using the arrow key to correct text in FF fox, the google toolbar part, getting garbled, unique to me or is it a fluke?
[08:41] <stiv2k> hi
[08:42] <dyrne> bill_: i did have some stability problems in herd 3 or 4 for feisty
[08:42] <darkusurp> anyone know how i can enable my soundcard in ubuntu
[08:43] <darkusurp> its not working
[08:43] <dyrne> darkusurp: onboard or pci?
[08:43] <clearzen> darkusurp: what does aplay -l output?
[08:43] <darkusurp> pci
[08:43] <stiv2k> anyone know why the following files fail to exist on my windows XP system? I need them for my SAMBA print server .... pscript.hlp pscript.ntf
[08:43] <darkusurp> ill try it
[08:43] <darkusurp> i mean onboard
[08:43] <dyrne> darkusurp: go into bois and disable onboard if you have it then. its just hogging resources
[08:43] <stiv2k> they are the windows postscript drivers i think...or something like that
[08:43] <dyrne> bios
[08:43] <darkusurp> its onboard
[08:43] <stiv2k> the guide said they should be in a specific directory on a windows XP system and they are not
[08:44] <csquared> did you try showing hidden files in xp?
[08:44] <darkusurp> aplay gives me no soundcards found...
[08:44] <darkusurp> what happens when the soundcard isnt found
[08:45] <ferronica> Is this okay just pasted in sound juicer to rip mp3 ---->>audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux
[08:45] <addams> What is the best thing I could do in ubuntu to get my system to really run fast, and keep it running fast?
[08:45] <chazco> hmm... apt-get mirror appears to mirror whole feeds
[08:45] <clearzen> darkusurp: if you follow the instructions here it should get it working for you  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[08:45] <stiv2k> csquared: umm i didnt check but im fairly sure hidden files are enabled to be shown
[08:45] <Enverex> If you're using the XOrg ATi drivers (the open source one), what package are the libraries contained in? (i.e. if you need to compile something that wants OpenGL headers from it)
[08:45] <kane77> I try to configure mythtv..  I believe I have to set cron to something (mythtv backend??)
[08:45] <Erealz> can someone help with my wireless card?
[08:45] <cheeseboy> http://www.destructoid.com/super-mario-bros-theme-has-lyrics-30498.phtml
[08:45] <ferronica> Any one here using Sound Juicer???
[08:46] <csquared> stiv2k OK, I always try looking for the easiest possible solution first. What guide are you talking about?
[08:46] <cheeseboy> how i make pendrive not active"?
[08:46] <stiv2k> csquared: well i couldn't find a good guide on the ubuntu forums...but several SAMBA guides on google told me the same thing...i'll try to find one of them again
[08:47] <ferronica> Any one here using Sound Juicer???
[08:47] <facugaich> How can I set a default refresh rate?
[08:47] <cheeseboy> how i make pendrive not active"?
[08:47] <stiv2k> csquared: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netsysm/article.php/3621876
[08:47] <cheeseboy> help
[08:47] <cheeseboy> how i make pendrive not active"?
[08:47] <sjuerges> hi @ all
[08:48] <clearzen> cheeseboy: right click and eject
[08:48] <cheeseboy> clearzen not amount
[08:48] <nelly> ferronica: open sound juicer >help > contents
[08:48] <sjuerges> can anybody help me with network-manager-gnome problem ?
[08:48] <cheeseboy> make it not bootable
[08:48] <clearzen> cheeseboy: what do you mean then?
[08:48] <clearzen> cheeseboy: oh
[08:48] <nelly> ferronica: select preferences and scroll right to the bottom. What you want is right there
[08:49] <Jiran> hey, is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between workspaces (like how ALT-TAB switches between programs)?
[08:49] <stiv2k> csquared: they dont exist on my desktop PC or laptop, on windows XP
[08:49] <ferronica> Hey nelly :)
[08:49] <Erealz> Ok well i need help with my wirelesscard  i have installed wifi-radar . my wireless card  never worked in linux  before untill now im not sure what drivers i have that made it work, but ways i just need to know how exactly i cant connect to wireless access point couse  wifi-radar dosnt let me click and connect?
[08:49] <ferronica> nelly: you use sound juicer i know
[08:50] <OuZo> anybody know were i can get beginners help with MySQL? thanks
[08:50] <cheeseboy> how do i make my pendrive NOT bootable?
[08:50] <ph8> anyone know what provides apachectl for apache2?
[08:50] <facugaich> OuZo, check the manual
[08:50] <ph8> it's in the 'apache' package - but i don't want 1.3
[08:50] <noen> Anyone else have problem with the azureus 2.5.0.0 package (Java VM crashes with random errors on startup) ?
[08:51] <OuZo> facugaich: is there a version i can download to my hard drive instead of reading it on line
[08:51] <facugaich> OuZo, yes, right there in the site
[08:51] <sjuerges> weird little problem here ... my network-manager gnome applet doesnt start ... it stops my gnome from starting until it times out .. /etc/network/interfaces is clean, and i cant even start the applet manually .. it just times out
[08:51] <sjuerges> can anybod help
[08:51] <cheeseboy> how do i make my pendrive NOT bootable?
[08:51] <beg1689> does anyone know how i can configure firestarter to allow my wifi connection?
[08:52] <beg1689> when i have the firewall enabled my wifi doesnt work
[08:52] <ph8> ah n/m got it
[08:52] <beg1689> Erealz, tru sudo network-admin
[08:52] <addams> garghh
[08:52] <csquared> stiv2k I looked on my windows machine and couldn't find the files either
[08:52] <kane77> mythtv doesnt play anything :(
[08:52] <beg1689> works for me...
[08:53] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know of a good backup utility that will back up a directory (90 GB) to DVD?
[08:53] <beg1689> 90gb?
[08:53] <stiv2k> csquared: several guides pointed to the same set of files...did microsoft change something that had to do with those files?  what am I to do about network printing now
[08:53] <beg1689> i woudl just use a hard drive
[08:53] <addams> hey dudes, i want those cool effects like fire, if I have gnome can I install beryl?
[08:53] <DarthFrog> beg1689: Multiple DVDs. :-)  It's my MP3 collection.
[08:53] <beg1689> addams: yes, but you may need to set up your 3d accelerator correctly
[08:53] <csquared> are you printing to the windows machine from the linux machine or to the linux machine from the windows machine
[08:53] <kane77> beg1689, for me it only shows black screen (on any channel)...
[08:54] <DarthFrog> beg1689: I already have a hard disk backup.  I want a DVD copy.
[08:54] <OuZo> facugaich: im here http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/index.html & i cant see a link to download the whole thing
[08:54] <dyrne> Erealz: to connect to an open AP just: assuming your device name is eth1:  sudo ifconfig eth1 up;sudo iwconfig eth1 essid whatevername; sudo dhclient eth1
[08:54] <beg1689> well then no, i dont know how to do that, other than compressiing it into an archive split by size
[08:54] <addams> i dont know what a 3d accelerator is, I'll wait until some makes beryl easy to install
[08:54] <dari> do you speek frensh pleas, bcause I want to ask qustion?
[08:55] <beg1689> Erealz: if you prefer a gui setup network-admin does exactly what its suppsoed to
[08:55] <dari> comment on peut accelerer le telechargement sous linux
[08:55] <Erealz> yes im aware beg1689
[08:55] <Erealz> and im trying to configure it but with no luck
[08:55] <beg1689> ok just makin sure, if you have a problem check your firewall
[08:55] <csquared> are you printing to the windows machine from the linux machine or to the linux machine from the windows machine
[08:55] <beg1689> thats what i went through yesterday :)
[08:56] <DarthFrog> beg1689: I could do a tar and split, but then I wouldn't have a catalogue.
[08:56] <facugaich> OuZo, here -> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/index.html#refman
[08:56] <Bracki> how does network-manager in combination determine which driver to use?
[08:56] <beg1689> sudo iptables -L, if it produces more than a few lines, you might just need to disable firewall
[08:56] <Bracki> with pcmciautils..
[08:56] <Erealz> nop
[08:56] <beg1689> DarthFrog: in that case i would just write a progra/script to do it for me :)
[08:56] <robinlinth> Can anybody please help me? I'm hooked to a game, Warsow.. but I want to minimalize it so i can look at pages and answer to IMs and stuff.. I tried running a second X server, but the 3d didn't work so the game wouldn't run. Can anybody please help me with this?
[08:56] <clearzen> can you use cat to join together a video that is in several pieces?
[08:56] <sjuerges> root@bricktop:/home/sbrix# nm-applet
[08:56] <sjuerges> (nm-applet:6979): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[08:56] <sjuerges> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:57] <sjuerges> any idea ?
[08:57] <Bracki> how does network-manager in combination w/ pcmciautils determine which driver to use?
[08:57] <disasm> robinlinth: is this in wine?
[08:57] <robinlinth> disasm, No, it's a native game.
[08:57] <beg1689> robinlinth: any idea what warsow uses for its window manager?
[08:57] <beg1689> i mean, to maage its window*
[08:57] <robinlinth> beg1689, It's a native game that you run, and then it's there.
[08:57] <Bracki> sjuerges: had a similar problem. are you in netdev (the group)?
[08:57] <sjuerges> nope ...
[08:58] <beg1689> is in the repo? ill just install it and try it out meself
[08:58] <sjuerges> bracki: why ? workaround in there ?
[08:58] <Bracki> should add yourself to netdev then
[08:58] <DarthFrog> clearzen: perhaps, depends upon how the mulitple files were produced.  But I doubt it.
[08:58] <maddog39> i am having trouble compiling the llatest version og GTK and its dependencies on Dapper
[08:58] <beg1689> is warsow a fun game?
[08:58] <Bracki> sjuerges: no i meant adduser sjuerges netdev
[08:58] <robinlinth> beg1689, It's available as a binary on the official www.warsow.org website.
[08:58] <disasm> robinlinth: i'm going to have to check that one out when my case comes in for my new computer
[08:58] <robinlinth> beg1689, It's a shooter where movement counts. Cool tricks and stuff
[08:58] <sjuerges> ROFL :D
[08:58] <clearzen> DarthFrog: cool, I'll find another solution...maybe dd
[08:58] <sjuerges> bracki: ok, thats the group u meant :D
[08:59] <macpo3> ok, hd2 now mounts ... next problem
[08:59] <beg1689> robinlinth: that site just shows me an ftp folder with a stats folder in it
[08:59] <macpo3> (I'm new to linux and ubuntu)
[08:59] <Erealz> would a wirelesscard in linux only scan and not connnect?
[08:59] <csquared> siv2k what kind of printer do you have?
[08:59] <sjuerges> bracki: already was
[08:59] <Erealz> couse i cant get wifi radar
[08:59] <DarthFrog> clearzen: If the multiple files were produced by splitting a single original file, then you could use the cat command to put them back into one file.
[08:59] <robinlinth> beg1689, oops, www.warsow.net
[08:59] <Erealz> to connect
[08:59] <OuZo> facugaich: thanks :) i appreciate it
[08:59] <macpo3> when the pc boots, eth0 isn't configured, and I have to tell it to configure itself. any idea what / where I need to change / look at?
[09:00] <Bracki> sjuerges: hmm
[09:00] <dyrne> Erealz: just curious.. what is the card?
[09:00] <clearzen> DarthFrog: that is exactly what was done. What options would I have to use to do that?
[09:00] <DarthFrog> macpo3: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:00] <beg1689> looks pretty interesting
[09:00] <disasm> Erealz: what card?
[09:00] <Erealz> it an msi pci card
[09:00] <disasm> Erealz: chipset?
[09:00] <DarthFrog> clearzen: cat file1 file2 > file3
[09:00] <robinlinth> beg1689, I'd say try it out. Now can you please help me with that little problem? I only have one more hour to play :(
[09:00] <Erealz> havent a clue
[09:00] <Erealz> all i know
[09:00] <clearzen> DarthFrog: thanks
[09:00] <sjuerges> bracki: yeh. the whole damn network manager wont start ... and its an atheros chipset ... i had it working yesterday ... and today it doenst work any more ..:D
[09:00] <beg1689> oh and for my problem: is it possible to enable firewall without disabling my eth1 wifi connetion?
[09:00] <Erealz> it that it finds wireless access point
[09:00] <beg1689> (i use firestarter)
[09:00] <Erealz> i just cant connect to them
[09:01] <kane77> okay I found out the situation is just the same in kdetv... so there probably will be some other problem.. anybody knows what might cause this? (a black screen when tuning a tv tuner... it seems to find channels though...)
[09:01] <robinlinth> beg1689, I'd say try it out. Now can you please help me with that little problem? I only have one more hour to play :(
[09:01] <disasm> Erealz: does iwconfig associate with an ap?
[09:01] <sjuerges> bracki: it doesnt even show the friggin icon
[09:01] <beg1689> robinlinth:i heard you, ive never had to run a game in a seperate X server so im not really sure how to do that
[09:01] <macpo3> there's a line "auto eth0" and a line "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[09:02] <Erealz> yes
[09:02] <beg1689> they should have jsut giving the window manager proper control of its window
[09:02] <Erealz> iwconfig find it as a wireless card
[09:02] <Sherdan> hello everyone i'm new here. can a nice young lady welcome me please?
[09:02] <Erealz> but
[09:02] <Erealz> when i do an lspci  i get this  RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)
[09:02] <Flannel> Sherdan: Please stay ontopic and appropriate.
[09:03] <sjuerges> bracki: NetworkManager Tool
[09:03] <sjuerges> get_nm_state(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager.
[09:03] <arod> is there some way to hear audio in 3gp videos from my cell phone? tried both totem and mplayer. video is fine.
[09:03] <beg1689> Erealz: does it get an IP?
[09:03] <cyris> Sherdan should be banned man for that :S
[09:03] <DarthFrog> Erealz: The RALink 2500 is natively supported in Linux.
[09:03] <macpo3> there's also other entries in there before it for interfaces I don't have - eth1, eth2, ath0, wlan0 ... can I comment those out safely with "#"
[09:03] <beg1689> does it successfully get an IP from dhcp? (unless you are using static)
[09:03] <Erealz> darthfrog mean my card is support?
[09:03] <DarthFrog> macpo3: Yes
[09:03] <DarthFrog> Erealz: Yes
[09:04] <Erealz> k
[09:04] <Erealz> well
[09:04] <Erealz> no
[09:04] <Erealz> it dosnt have an ip ifconfig just show it hardware address
[09:04] <DarthFrog> Erealz: That it may not be working doesn't mean that it's not supported. :-)
[09:04] <clearzen> Erealz: I had to use ndiswrapper for my friends card with the same chipset for some reason
[09:04] <beg1689> hm... is that anything like the rt73?
[09:04] <beg1689> for that card i had to modify a .dat file witht he proper settings to get it to connetc
[09:05] <Erealz> well can ya help me connect to an access point
[09:05] <Bracki> sjuerges: f#ck the bl00dy wlan bullshit. i've spent a week now trying to getting it to work. today i bought a new pcmcia card and now found out my notebook doesnt have a 32bit cardbus. vomit.
[09:05] <Erealz> iv tryd just about everything that i can think of
[09:05] <_nick> what is the card again erealz?
[09:05] <clearzen> Erealz: Do you have the windows drivers?
[09:05] <beg1689> i could not get the included driver to work, i had to compile one from cvs
[09:05] <Erealz> yes on a disk
[09:05] <Erealz> why
[09:05] <beg1689> works like a charm now
[09:05] <_nick> ndiswrapper wraps windows drivers
[09:05] <clearzen> Erealz: You can use them with ndiswrapper to get it to work
[09:06] <disasm> Erealz: iwconfig eth1 essid myessid ap FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF where FF is mac of ap, then dhclient eth1 (sub eth1 for your net interface)
[09:06] <unmorph> If a channel says you need to be 'identified' before joining...what exactly does that mean?
[09:06] <_nick> so
[09:06] <Erealz> under my box the interface is ra0
[09:06] <LjL> !register > unmorph    (unmorph, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:06] <disasm> clearzen: i think his card is natively supported
[09:07] <rmd> unmorph, means you need to register your nick with nickserv
[09:07] <unmorph> !register
[09:07] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:07] <LjL> unmorph: it means that. do it anyway, it's really a good idea (among other things, it allows you to send private messages)
[09:07] <_nick> ubotu
[09:07] <Erealz> what i need is to connect to an accesspoint
[09:07] <_nick> =/
[09:07] <clearzen> disasm: I know. But I have had problems with the same chipset
[09:07] <beg1689> warow looks a lot like quake 2
[09:07] <beg1689> warsow*
[09:07] <unmorph> THanks. ^_^
[09:07] <DarthFrog> If ndiswrapper works, then go for it.
[09:08] <disasm> Erealz: does iwlist scan show anything?
[09:10] <_nick> hi
[09:10] <_nick> question
[09:10] <_nick> anyone encountered gnome-settings-daemon bug?
[09:10] <_nick> the one where gnome wont start
[09:10] <_nick> probably because of messing with compiz / beryl stuff
[09:10] <_nick> ?
[09:11] <_nick> ...in feisty?
[09:11] <LjL> !feisty
[09:11] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:11] <LjL> !enter
[09:11] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:11] <lxuser> how can I remove the effect when minimizing windows in gnome , the one that looks like is redrawing the windows?
[09:11] <_nick> ok
[09:11] <Nullbyte> Hey guys, do any of you guys know how I get what M$ calls a computer name for my windows network? :x
[09:12] <Erealz> no
[09:12] <Erealz> iwlist finds the access points
[09:12] <Erealz> now what
[09:12] <LjL> Nullbyte: man nmblookup
[09:12] <_nick> did not see #ubuntu+1 on /list, sorry
[09:13] <LjL> Nullbyte: (which is in the "samba-common" package, if you don't have it isntalled, you'll need to)
[09:13] <disasm> wow! people still use /list ;-) /topic states it as well
[09:13] <unmorph> Is automatix included in the repos? Their wiki is down...no response in their channel either...
[09:13] <apokryphos> !automatix
[09:13] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:13] <LjL> Nullbyte: i found it by means of typing "apropos netbios", since i belive NetBIOS is the thing responsible for that name lookup scheme
[09:14] <_nick> sure does, sorry ;)
[09:14] <unmorph> Hmm. Interesting. Ok.
[09:14] <Nullbyte> LjL: Oh, thank you very much
[09:14] <Erealz> i thought wif-radar was sapose to help me connect to other access point but i cant click on any of the access points it just show them but i cant edit them or connect i mean what the deal?!
[09:14] <jexdawg> !WorksForMe
[09:14] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:15] <Dame> !xen
[09:15] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:15] <Erealz> i need help
[09:15] <ubuntu> cz
[09:15] <scv> what's up?
[09:15] <MTecknology> I'm looking at this page for changing my screen brightness - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=386048 - I want to follow the tutorial at the far bottom, only problem is that I don't use an Apple computer. It's a Gateway M285-E Tablet. What lines should I be replacing that with?
[09:15] <erwin> Hi. Is there an ftpd in Ubuntu that supports FTPS? I.e. implicitly SSL'ed FTP on port 990, NOT negotiated SSL?
[09:15] <Erealz> umm i need to know if ubuntu has an mp4 convertor? if so what the best and where can i get it
[09:15] <cheeseboy> anyone know how to enable automounting ?
[09:16] <cheeseboy> ?
[09:16] <El-aLEX> edit /etc/fstab
[09:16] <cheeseboy> me?
[09:16] <kitpou> ciao
[09:16] <scv> Erealz: .mp4 != mpeg 4
[09:16] <Erealz> where can i dl that program
[09:17] <LjL> !it | kitpou
[09:17] <ubotu> kitpou: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:17] <scv> Erealz: does mp4 need a licence to use?
[09:17] <kitpou> yes ok
[09:17] <cwillu> how do I get udev to reread /etc/udev/rules.d?
[09:17] <Erealz> i dont know
[09:17] <scv> lol
[09:17] <anti_> Hey whats going on
[09:17] <Erealz> those anyone know if mp4 need a license
[09:17] <Erealz> ?
[09:18] <Enverex> If you're using the XOrg ATi drivers (the open source one), what package are the libraries contained in? (i.e. if you need to compile something that wants OpenGL headers from it)
[09:18] <cwillu> !udev
[09:18] <anti_> anyone in here know much about Broadcom notebook wireless on ubuntu?
[09:18] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB
[09:18] <Erealz> those anyone know if mp4 needs a license?
[09:18] <dogmeat> how much swap space should i allocate for 40GB hdd?
[09:19] <anti_> 2 gig
[09:19] <scv> Erealz: I don't think it's legal if any oss app can process .mp4 files
[09:19] <Erealz> so that a big no?
[09:19] <AlexC_> Morning,
[09:19] <Erealz> k
[09:19] <jonaskul> hi all.. installing ubuntu now.. have to try something new^^
[09:19] <LjL> dogmeat, anti_: the HD size have very, *very* little to do with the swap space one "should" allocate. (well, of course if you have a very small drive, you might want to sacrifice swap, but that's a limit case)
[09:19] <seraphim> Erealz: i'd also say it's too much
[09:20] <Erealz> no mp4 convertor for linux
[09:20] <AlexC_> Just a quick question before I buy my new graphics card - is a nVidia 7950 well supported?
[09:20] <farux> dd
[09:20] <farux> d
[09:20] <farux> d
[09:20] <seraphim> Erealz: i think 1gb is far enough
[09:20] <LjL> dogmeat: make your swap space at least as big as the amount of RAM you have. possibly bigger, like twice the size, or 1.5 times the size
[09:20] <Erealz> k no mp4 for linux  got it
[09:20] <Erealz> anyways
[09:20] <dyrne> dogmeat: thats only a general rul though i only use 256mb swap on my systems
[09:20] <ceeg> so partition magic messed up my windows install as i was resizing the disk for ubuntu. is there a linux ntfs recovery tool?
[09:20] <anti_> Ljl, i know that
[09:20] <seraphim> argh. sorry Erealz, dogmeat i wanted to say^^
[09:21] <anti_> But, thats why i said that
[09:21] <cheeseboy> [09:21] <cheeseboy> libparted : 1.7.1
[09:21] <cheeseboy> automounting disabled
[09:21] <cheeseboy> [09:21] <dogmeat> 'k thanks
[09:21] <cheeseboy> how i fix that?
[09:21] <anti_> Most people right now are running about 1 gig
[09:21] <Erealz> i still need help with my wireless card
[09:21] <anti_> maybe more
[09:21] <seraphim> Erealz: www.onlymeok.nildram.co.uk (idjc) can process mp4-files
[09:21] <anti_> what kind of wireless card do you have?
[09:21] <LjL> anti_: i'm running half a gig. why assume, when you can ask *and* make people understand what the *important* variables are?
[09:21] <scv> seraphim: playing or processing?
[09:21] <LjL> if you just say "2 gig", he'll think 2 gig is right for a 40 gig HD. which is completely meaningless
[09:22] <Erealz> basicly  my card not letting me connect to other accesspoints im useing wifradar but i cant click and connect to the accesspoints or edit them why is this?
[09:22] <anti_> oh idk about that
[09:22] <seraphim> scv: damn. when you ask like that ...
[09:22] <anti_> maybe LjL does
[09:22] <Erealz> hmmmm
[09:22] <scv> seraphim: ?
[09:23] <seraphim> play of course :D
[09:23] <LjL> access points? hardly, i'm running wired
[09:23] <scv> ...
[09:23] <cheeseboy> [09:23] <cheeseboy> libparted : 1.7.1
[09:23] <cheeseboy> automounting disabled
[09:23] <cheeseboy> [09:23] <cheeseboy> how i fix that?
[09:23] <anti_> hmm
[09:23] <scv> I can play it on my xmms too.
[09:23] <anti_> weird
[09:23] <AlexC_> !repeat | cheeseboy
[09:23] <ubotu> cheeseboy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:23] <dyrne> Erealz: pastebin the output of lspci -v maybe as a starting point
[09:23] <AlexC_> cheeseboy: also, no need to paste the [09:23] <cheeseboy> !answer
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about answer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <seraphim> scv_: i don't even have mp4-files, no idea ;)
[09:24] <scv> !retard
[09:24] <Erealz> link to paste bin
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about retard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <dyrne> !pastebin| Erealz
[09:24] <LjL> !botabuse
[09:24] <ubotu> Erealz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:24] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:24] <ArnoO> hi
[09:24] <cheeseboy> !ahole
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ahole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <ArnoO> I need to upgrade to xine 1.1.3 under edgy how can i plz?
[09:24] <Erealz> OK
[09:24] <Erealz> so let go by this step by step
[09:24] <anti_> okay well, if anyone can help  me with my problem it would be appreciated, I have a broadcom card and a netgear card on a laptop and I cant get either to work
[09:25] <ceeg> Is there an NTFS recovery tool for linux?
[09:25] <seraphim> so...why do you guys suggest so much swap space? i got 1gb of ram and swap is never touched by anything...
[09:25] <anti_> use Synaptic Package Manager
[09:25] <Erealz> my wireless interface is ra0 and iwlist show the accesspoints now what?
[09:25] <anti_> Because rule of thumb is you should use atleast what you have for ram, if not more
[09:25] <Erealz> what syntax should i use to connect to one of the accesspoints
[09:25] <anti_> I prefer doubt
[09:26] <anti_> double
[09:26] <chainsaw_> !you
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <anti_> !wireless
[09:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:26] <ArnoO> I need to upgrade to xine 1.1.3 under edgy how can i plz?
[09:26] <seraphim> sure, i also heard that...but why? there's no use for so much swap...
[09:26] <anti_> ARNO0... use the Synaptic UPDATER
[09:27] <anti_> Located in System
[09:27] <anti_> on ur top pannel
[09:27] <chainsaw_> !webcam
[09:27] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:27] <LjL> seraphim, how much swap to use has always been a topic of heated debate. however, there's a very practical reason why, under Ubuntu, swap should AT LEAST equal RAM: that's because, otherwise, hibernation will break
[09:27] <linuxn00b> Easy question, where do most applications (what dir) go when installed?
[09:27] <sittisal> /usr/bin
[09:27] <crdlb> seraphim, with a lot of ram, you only need equal swap space if you plan on using suspend-to-disk
[09:28] <LjL> seraphim: aside from that, well, even if you have 10 gigs of RAM, swap is still (in principle) a good thing, because the kernel has more liberty to decide that some processes are worth swapping out in favor of caching in more files
[09:28] <seraphim> thanks a lot LjL, crdlb! didn't think about that
[09:28] <LjL> seraphim: so unless you have got more RAM than you have HD space, swap is still demonstrably a good thing ;)
[09:28] <linuxn00b> Danke sittisal. ;)
[09:29] <ArnoO> I need to upgrade to xine 1.1.3 under edgy how can i plz?
[09:29] <anti_> arno0 are u fucking retarted?
[09:29] <anti_> i have told you like 10 times
[09:29] <LjL> (lk anti_
[09:30] <LjL> hm, thank my typoes
[09:30] <LjL> !language
[09:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:30] <ArnoO> oops sorry anti_ don't see
[09:31] <anti_> use Synaptic Package Manager
[09:31] <Banekartr> Anyone around?
[09:31] <LjL> just 1149 people
[09:31] <Banekartr> oh
[09:31] <anti_> lol
[09:31] <Banekartr> lol, nevermind
[09:32] <anti_> LjL, you seem very unhappy
[09:32] <mcquaid_> hello, i set up some samba shares to be mounted via fstab, works fine on my edgy box but on dapper upon shutdown i get
[09:32] <Banekartr> I am very new to linux and have a question.  Is this the right place to ask?
[09:32] <anti_> ya
[09:32] <PriceChild> Banekartr, ask and see :)
[09:32] <LjL> anti_, how does my happiness or lack of it have anything to do with Ubuntu support?
[09:32] <mcquaid_> unmounting remote and non-toplevel virtual filesystems
[09:33] <Orfeous> hello! i am searching for a program like Final Cut, Avid or Adobe Premiere.. anyone?
[09:33] <Enverex> If you're using the XOrg ATi drivers (the open source one), what package are the libraries contained in? (i.e. if you need to compile something that wants OpenGL headers from it)
[09:33] <anti_> Calm down Lorenzo
[09:33] <mcquaid_> and then I keep getting some cifs vfs error over and over
[09:33] <mcquaid_> it never shuts down cleanly
[09:33] <Orfeous> mcquaid_, been there done that :D
[09:33] <Orfeous> i had the same errors
[09:33] <Banekartr> I deleted all of the contents of my home directory and now when I set a background on my desktop it doesnt stick after a reboot.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fix this?
[09:34] <mcquaid_> Orfeous: did you find a fix?
[09:34] <anti_> ioi
[09:34] <anti_> reinstall
[09:34] <crdlb> Enverex, libgl1-mesa-dev ?
[09:34] <Orfeous> mcquaid_, fix was to stop using cifs and use NFS
[09:34] <mcquaid_> lol
[09:34] <Enverex> crdlb, Thanks, I
[09:34] <Enverex> I'll try it
[09:34] <mcquaid_> doesn't happen in edgy
[09:34] <ArnoO> anti_ i have only xine 1.1.2 !
[09:34] <Orfeous> mcquaid_, no, but in feisty
[09:34] <Orfeous> any news about ATI-drivers? ;)
[09:34] <linuxn00b> How do I temporarily act as root?  I need to access /var/webmin but it's permission denied to me, even using sudo.
[09:34] <nexusvr> Banekartr: did you try a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? I mean: reset if you can
[09:34] <macpo3> I've checked /etc/network/interfaces and it looks ok ... so is it possible that dhcp client isn't getting started?
[09:35] <mcquaid_> it's back in feisty?!
[09:35] <mcquaid_> thats awful
[09:35] <Chamuco> what would I need to do if I copy my
[09:35] <nexusvr> linuxn00b: sudo is the answer
[09:35] <Terminus-> linuxn00b: sudo -s
[09:35] <macpo3> use gksudo in a terminal to launch a graphics app as superuser
[09:36] <Terminus-> linuxn00b: let me guess, sudo cd /var/webmin won't work? =)
[09:36] <mcquaid_> linuxn00b: you can't cd using sudo
[09:36] <POVaddct> Terminus-: hehe
[09:36] <mcquaid_> but just use vi or joe to get to the file via sudo
[09:36] <mcquaid_> or make a real root account
[09:36] <l90bpm> anyone want to help me install my first tgz?
[09:36] <crdlb> l90bpm, what is it?
[09:36] <fabiano> my cd don t load when i reeboot my sistem
[09:36] <LjL> l90bpm: maybe. only if you really, *really* need to. if there's a way to use a proper Ubuntu package, just do that :)
[09:37] <linuxn00b> Terminus: Correct. Also, what does modifier "-s" mean?
[09:37] <l90bpm> iip
[09:37] <fabiano> wha is going on?
[09:37] <ArnoO> anti_ ?
[09:37] <Terminus-> linuxn00b: sudo -s is equivalent to su. sudo -i is equivalent to su -.
[09:37] <nexusvr> fabiano: did you check /etc/fstab ?
[09:37] <fabiano> no
[09:37] <AlexC_> fabiano: you probably put the ISO on the black disk, instead of burning it as a disk image
[09:37] <fabiano> how i do this?
[09:37] <AlexC_> s/black/blank
[09:38] <crdlb> l90bpm, what is iip?
[09:38] <nexusvr> fabiano: maybe it's a wrong mount (i'm noob)
[09:38] <linuxn00b> Terminus: Danke.  Worked marvelously.  I've gotten so rusty. :D
[09:38] <l90bpm> iip-1.1.0.tgz
[09:38] <fabiano> is a live cd
[09:38] <Terminus-> linuxn00b: you're welcome. =)
[09:38] <crdlb> l90bpm, link?
[09:38] <anti_> hey Lorenzo, do you know anything about wireless?
[09:38] <fabiano> yestergay was good
[09:38] <AlexC_> nexusvr: I think he means when he put CD in to restart to boot into Ubuntu live CD
[09:38] <fabiano> yesterday
[09:38] <LjL> anti_, afraid not.
[09:38] <l90bpm> http://invisibleip.sourceforge.net/iip/downloadMain.php
[09:38] <AlexC_> fabiano: oh, was the disk working before?
[09:38] <nexusvr> sorry. I have to study lol
[09:38] <fabiano> yes
[09:39] <anti_> Oh alright, ubuntu isnt compatable with much wireless cards
[09:39] <AlexC_> fabiano: what happens when you put the cd in?
[09:39] <Piotr_> hi
[09:39] <anti_> I figured that it would be since Vista is compatable with EVERYTHING
[09:39] <nexusvr> hi Piotr_
[09:39] <anti_> lol
[09:39] <AlexC_> anti_: it is, even more so when the next version is released, April 19th
[09:39] <PriceChild> Orfeous, Have you tried Final Cut, Avid or Adobe Premiere? Seriously though... Have you searched synaptic? Kino is the only video editing software that comes to my mind.
[09:39] <fabiano> file loading failed
[09:39] <LjL> anti_, stop trolling
[09:39] <faqus> anti_:a co ty tak lolujesz?:)
[09:39] <LjL> !pl | faqus
[09:39] <ubotu> faqus: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:40] <AlexC_> fabiano: bad disk then, need to make another
[09:40] <faqus> ubotu:ok ok :))
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok ok :)) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <fabiano> okay
[09:40] <anti_> Lorenzo, what iis trolling?? in regards to an IRC room
[09:40] <Chamuco> what would I need to fix if I copy my ubuntu partition from one partition to another?
[09:40] <Piotr_> i have question.... i saw in one movie that gnome has na seracher in his strip (whatever) when he typed some title of song, this song turned on! HOW?
[09:40] <fabiano> how I isntall my webcam?
[09:40] <LjL> anti_: being offtopic in a way that generates heated discussions.
[09:41] <LjL> !webcam > fabiano    (fabiano, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:41] <AlexC_> fabiano: if you can't boot into Ubuntu ... I would suggest getting that working before installing webcam
[09:41] <jvai> hey all i cant connect to my ssh server from the outside...
[09:41] <crdlb> Piotr_, deskbar + beagle or tracker ?
[09:41] <anti_> how exactly am I off topic?
[09:41] <nexusvr> !webcam
[09:41] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:41] <AlexC_> jvai: are you behind a router?
[09:41] <LjL> anti_: you talked about Windows Vista, for starters. now, seriously, STOP TROLLING
[09:41] <nexusvr> ah, thanks !
[09:41] <ceeg> testdisk saved my life.
[09:41] <jvai> yes
[09:41] <anti_> are you soft, maybe I should call you grape man
[09:41] <Piotr_> crdlb ok but what tracker?
[09:41] <underline> is Ubuntu version more popular then PCLinux?? some advantages??
[09:41] <jvai> & i'm in starbucks right now
[09:41] <AlexC_> jvai: then you'll need to open the port for it
[09:41] <fabiano> i can t boot from a cd
[09:41] <jvai> from here? @ alex
[09:41] <faqus> nexusvr:Stop trolling kur...
[09:42] <faqus> :)
[09:42] <fabiano> but from hd is okay
[09:42] <crdlb> Piotr_, deskbar is the applet, and there are two disk indexers to choose from: either beagle or tracker
[09:42] <Orfeous> PriceChild, yes, i have! i have used them a lot
[09:42] <AlexC_> fabiano: then boot from the hard drive?
[09:42] <fabiano> is good
[09:42] <dyrne> underline: take a look at distrowatch.org to get an idea
[09:42] <Orfeous> PriceChild, Kino seems only to be for DV-editing
[09:42] <AlexC_> jvai: hum? You'll need to open the port for ssh on you're router - so people outside of you're local network can access it
[09:42] <jvai> ooooo
[09:42] <anti_> MacOS X 10, SuSE, FreeBSD, Windows 9x, XP/2k/ 3.1/ how about AOL? Firefox internet explorer i love all of these things
[09:42] <rowejob> my adept updated crashed when  upgrading now it say that it is being used by another process when no other process is running it
[09:42] <rowejob> how do I fix that
[09:42] <Chamuco> anyone knows what system file/settings would i need to fix if I copy my ubuntu system partition to another?
[09:43] <mcquaid_> ya kino is only for dv afaik
[09:43] <nexusvr> faqus what does it mean kur ?
[09:43] <jvai> ythaaaat's how i do it ty alex.. back to the books for me
[09:43] <faqus> wa
[09:43] <froyd> have any of you guys played with xwinwrap ???
[09:43] <froyd> !xwinwrap
[09:43] <fabiano> when i am in ubuntu  i put the cd in the driver
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwinwrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <mcquaid_> which i think is kind of limitiing. you make a good editor, make it support more formats
[09:43] <dyrne> Chamuco: well im guessing fstab would be wrong :)
[09:43] <fabiano> but dos not load
[09:43] <froyd> xwinwrap anyone ?
[09:43] <Chamuco> ok anything else?
[09:43] <fabiano> but read
[09:43] <crane_work> yes and possibly you grub settings as well
[09:44] <dyrne> Chamuco: well even fstab might not be now that theyre using uuids
[09:44] <crane_work> fabiano: It will not boot to the CD?
[09:44] <Chamuco> other than fstab any other fixin i may need to do?
[09:44] <tiffany1> Hi, i'm searching a site where I can download a package fr ubuntu with php5.2
[09:44] <faqus> can anybody explain me what does mean in english "set"?
[09:44] <dyrne> Chamuco: it might actually just work
[09:44] <tiffany1> SOme weeks ago I found a site with a huge archive of new packages which are not already included in the repos
[09:45] <dyrne> Chamuco: grub of course
[09:45] <fabiano> not
[09:45] <tiffany1> does anyone know what the name of the site was ?
[09:45] <Chamuco> well I'll try nothing to lose
[09:45] <faqus> can anybody explain me what does mean in english "set"?
[09:45] <l90bpm> crdlb: did you not approve of that particular package?  seemed pretty nice to me.
[09:45] <AlexC_> !repeat | faqus
[09:45] <ubotu> faqus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:45] <crane_work> fabiano: Have you checked Bios settings to verify it is set to boot to CD?
[09:45] <shafto> Any  of you by any chance know if the wine repo now worrks for 0.9.33?
[09:45] <Chamuco> ok what about the MBR?
[09:45] <dyrne>  /whois l90bpm
[09:45] <fabiano> i ll chek
[09:46] <froyd> lol
[09:46] <froyd> !patience
[09:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:46] <faqus> ubotu:ok thank you
[09:46] <nexusvr> !patience
[09:46] <AlexC_> faqus: Ubotu is a bot,
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok thank you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <TwinX> !ubotu
[09:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:46] <mcquaid_> faqus: it typically means to assign a value.  like a = 20.  i 'set' the value of a to 20
[09:46] <rowejob> when I upgraded to my new kubuntu my system crashed and I had to fix it now I am back into my kde environment and now the adept updater is broken and gives me this "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[09:46] <acemo> anyone here knows how to get opera on linux to be able to play wmv/3pg/rm movies?
[09:46] <crdlb> l90bpm, I've never heard of it
[09:47] <l90bpm> dyme.. what's up? you gonna drop the dime?
[09:47] <beg1689> acemo: yesm just run this command: $sudo apt-get remove opera && sudo apt-get install firefox :)
[09:47] <daziplqa> hi all folks
[09:47] <faqus> mcquaid:what does mean "bot"?(i don't know english very good)
[09:47] <beg1689> acemo: jk
[09:48] <daziplqa> i have a problem
[09:48] <elgilbert01> hola
[09:48] <acemo> beg1689: that wont work
[09:48] <nexusvr> acemo: install  w32codecs
[09:48] <daziplqa> my network interface card !
[09:48] <l90bpm> crdlb, it's ok man..  just wanted to hide the ole' ip..  no need for the whole world having it
[09:48] <beg1689> firefox is much easier to set up
[09:48] <daziplqa> any body help me ???!!!
[09:48] <l90bpm> not all that sketchy..
[09:48] <Dane1> what's your problem, daziplqa?
[09:48] <beg1689> and opera does not seem to like linux much.. seems to screw up and crash sometimes
[09:48] <AlexC_> daziplqa: we can't help if you ask no question now can we?
[09:48] <elgilbert01> alguien aki
[09:48] <mcquaid_> faqus: in this situation it's an irc channel auto response script.
[09:48] <daziplqa> i get a new NIC
[09:48] <mcquaid_> like when buddy typed
[09:49] <mcquaid_> !patience
[09:49] <daziplqa> ok ?
[09:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:49] <acemo> nexusvr: i got w32codecs already, but i think i need mplayerplug-in
[09:49] <d0lph1n> !rhythmbox
[09:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:49] <acemo> wich i am unable to get to work so far
[09:49] <d0lph1n> !rhythmbox version
[09:49] <ubotu> rhythmbox: music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.6-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2910 kB, installed size 9420 kB
[09:49] <Dane1> have you tried using the administration>networking tool to configure it?
[09:49] <mcquaid_> the bot responds with basically saying hold your horses
[09:49] <daziplqa> this new NIC is of type RTL D
[09:49] <d0lph1n> !rhythmbox version 0.9.7
[09:49] <acemo> beg1689: i have had no crash at all with opera
[09:49] <AlexC_> !botabuse | d0lph1n
[09:49] <ubotu> d0lph1n: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:49] <Dane1> daziplqa: is it wireless?
[09:49] <daziplqa> type : RTL8319D
[09:49] <nexusvr> acemo: you need vlc or other player with an Opera plug-in, i guess... i don't use Opera but i'll try soon
[09:49] <daziplqa> no
[09:49] <daziplqa> wired one
[09:50] <daziplqa> after "lspci" i found it but undefined
[09:50] <beg1689> especially if you try to run beryl
[09:50] <Dane1> daziplqa: you may need to load the module for it.
[09:50] <daziplqa> how ??
[09:50] <d0lph1n> thank you | AlexC_
[09:50] <daziplqa> lsn ;
[09:50] <faqus> by everyone
[09:50] <beg1689> acemo personally i just dont even like opera, firefox is easier to set up and seems much faster, and i love its extensions
[09:50] <Dane1> daziplqa: looking on google for the right one...hold on.
[09:51] <daziplqa> lsn
[09:51] <beg1689> especially this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/
[09:51] <acemo> beg1689: i like opera, i want to use opera.
[09:51] <daziplqa> may be it has no definition ???
[09:51] <beg1689> well just try the w32codecs liek someone mentioned
[09:51] <tjl30> Hey I am trying to install avidemux but I get this error when I type ./configure
[09:51] <tjl30> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[09:51] <tjl30> does anyone know how I can fix this?
[09:51] <acemo> like i said, i got w32codecs installed already
[09:52] <Nullbyte> How do I figure out my MAC adress? :)
[09:52] <daziplqa> are all  RealTelk NICs have definition for linux ??
[09:52] <Flannel> tjl30: why don't you instlal it from the repositories?
[09:52] <dyrne> tjl30: sudo apt-get install build-essential yet?
[09:52] <AlexC_> Nullbyte: ifconfig --all
[09:52] <Nullbyte> Thanks AlexC_
[09:52] <Dane1> daziplqa: try doing in a terminal: "sudo modprobe 8139too".
[09:52] <AlexC_> Nullbyte: nope, woops
[09:52] <Nullbyte> AlexC_: Oh, hehe
[09:52] <AlexC_> Nullbyte: ifconfig -a
[09:52] <Nullbyte> Great, thank you very much, AlexC_ :)
[09:52] <AlexC_> Nullbyte:  HWaddr = mac address
[09:53] <daziplqa> no output appears
[09:53] <Nullbyte> Yep, I just forgot the command :) Thanks again!
[09:53] <Dane1> daziplqa: that's OK.  Now do "ifconfig"
[09:53] <ArnoO> hi
[09:53] <AlexC_> hi
[09:53] <ArnoO> I need to install libxine 1.1.3 how can I do ?
[09:53] <ArnoO> (on edgy)
[09:53] <Dane1> daziplqa: is there a new interface in ifconfig now?
[09:54] <cbx33> please does anyone have the linuxmce iso file and deb?
[09:54] <daziplqa> two output : localloop & ppp ( that of the modem i use now )
[09:54] <AlexC_> ArnoO: sudo apt-get install libxine1
[09:54] <daziplqa> lo & ppp0
[09:54] <nexusvr> ArnoO: tried Synaptic + enabling repositories ?
[09:54] <ArnoO> yes
[09:54] <ArnoO> the last is 1.1.2
[09:54] <daziplqa> when i do "lspci" i found new ethernet card but not defined
[09:54] <ArnoO> (in backports too)
[09:55] <Dane1> daziplqa: looks like either the card is not supported in Linux, or it's a bad card.  Try searching google to see if your model works with Linux.
[09:55] <royalz> hi, i need help with postgresql, someone know how to connect with 'psql' command to a remote server?
[09:55] <daziplqa> mm, thanx
[09:55] <eighta> hi everyone!
[09:55] <daziplqa> but
[09:55] <eighta> somebody can help me please!!!
[09:55] <daziplqa> tell me about a good card that works in linux
[09:55] <AlexC_> eighta: we can't help if you ask no question.
[09:56] <AlexC_> royalz: #postgresql
[09:56] <eighta> ok, my question is
[09:56] <clop> hi, is there a simple graphical program i can use to see what programs are using my network bandwidth?
[09:56] <crdlb> daziplqa, anything that uses an intel or ralink chipset (among others)
[09:56] <eighta> How To Create A Local Ubuntu Mirror on windows
[09:56] <Dane1> daziplqa: try a CNet Pro 100 (I think).  Most cards work.  Try looking on google or here: http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Network_Adapters_(Wired)
[09:56] <SurfnKid> anyone know german here?
[09:56] <eighta> How To Create A Local Ubuntu Mirror on windows for one instalation
[09:56] <AlexC_> !de | SurfnKid
[09:56] <ubotu> SurfnKid: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:56] <SurfnKid> :|
[09:56] <Dane1> you want to make sure it supports the default kernel.
[09:57] <SurfnKid> AlexC_: thanks :)
[09:57] <ArnoO> nobody know about xine 1.1.3?
[09:57] <eighta> AlexC, u known that?
[09:57] <royalz> AlexC_: yes, but it works only on server machine and not on clients
[09:57] <Flannel> ArnoO: I believe all the fixes from 1.1.3 are already in the edgy package
[09:57] <fabiano> my live cd  does not load
[09:57] <eighta> me neighter
[09:57] <AlexC_> royalz: I know nothing about postgresql sorry, but I bet the people in #postgresql do
[09:58] <ArnoO> Flannel, i can't read .m4b then i don't think so
[09:58] <royalz> AlexC_: ok i mean, thanks
[09:59] <fabiano> what is going on  with my live cd?
[09:59] <AlexC_> fabiano: have you not listened to anything I told you before?
[09:59] <Flannel> ArnoO: the changelog seems to imply that they support m4b
[09:59] <ArnoO> :\
[09:59] <sladen> eighta: ask your question!
[09:59] <fabiano> yes
[09:59] <AlexC_> fabiano: you either a) put the ISO on to the CD instead of burning it as a disk image or b) bad disk, so need to make a new one
[10:00] <sladen> clop: ntop
[10:00] <Flannel> ArnoO: what version of libxine1 do you currently have?
[10:00] <fabiano> but i bought this onw
[10:00] <fabiano> one
[10:00] <sladen> gasbag: we don't know.  what /is/ going on with your liveCD, what do you see?
[10:00] <ArnoO>  libxine1       1.1.2+repacked
[10:00] <ArnoO> .m4b are bugging under Amarok
[10:00] <AlexC_> fabiano: that doesn't make it immune from being a bad disk,
[10:01] <Flannel> fabiano: what errors do you get?
[10:01] <fabiano> file dos not loading
[10:02] <fabiano> the cd does not open when i am in the os
[10:02] <crane_work> fabiano:  have you tried booting it on another computer?
[10:02] <fabiano> good ideai
[10:02] <fabiano> I will try
[10:02] <Tibmol> does ubuntu support NTFS ?
[10:03] <einstein_> yes :)
[10:03] <AlexC_> !ntfs | Tibmol
[10:03] <ubotu> Tibmol: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:03] <gasbag> sladen: i think you mean to ask fabiano about his livecd
[10:04] <AlexC_> fguiop
[10:04] <AlexC_> gah, sorry - cat walked on keyboard lol
[10:04] <fabiano> can i upgrade the os with a live cd?
[10:04] <mrpoundsign> AlexC_: that's the excuse I use when I type my password into IRC, too.
[10:05] <AlexC_> mrpoundsign: haha, no that's not my password :P
[10:05] <nexusvr> !help
[10:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:05] <mrpoundsign> AlexC_: just playing with you, I didn't even see it.
[10:05] <Mirth> Anyone know what file I can access to adjust my Firefox web fonts?
[10:05] <soundray> fabiano: no, only the alternate CD can be used as an upgrade source
[10:05] <HymnToLife> Mirth, why not use the FF PReferences menu ?
[10:06] <erUSUL> Mirth: file? Edit>Preferences
[10:06] <Mirth> Oh..
[10:06] <Mirth> Didn't know about that.
[10:06] <Mirth> Hehe
[10:06] <einstein_> Exuse me, how I can change resolution in terminal?
[10:06] <POVaddct> einstein_: terminal in X or real text console?
[10:07] <einstein_> real
[10:07] <catid> hello.. i'd like to set up my usb headset the way it works in Windows.. if i plug it in i'd like to set it as the default output device.  would someone mind giving me a push in the right direction?
[10:07] <mrpoundsign> anyone know how to completely remove all the configurations from the networkmanager app?
[10:07] <POVaddct> einstein_: with the vga=... kernel boot parameter
[10:07] <erUSUL> einstein_: editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf or using 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:07] <einstein_> aha
[10:07] <einstein_> thanks
[10:07] <bobbyd> hi
[10:08] <tjl30> I got a program in a .jar format, does anyone know how I could run this ?
[10:08] <POVaddct> einstein_: http://84.179.119.178:29642/
[10:08] <redwyrm> tjl30, java -jar *.jar
[10:08] <bobbyd> how do I mount an ubuntu dapper install LVM partition to recover some data from it? I can't mount it as ext3...
[10:08] <Tomcat_> tjl30: java -jar <file>.jar
[10:08] <fabiano> i got the firefox how i isntall?
[10:08] <kane77> which is the easiest to install ftp server?
[10:08] <kane77> i need something to set up in a minute.. :)
[10:09] <georgy_> kane77 : proftpd
[10:09] <dyrne> kane77: pureftpd has a gui called pureadmin but they are all pretty easy if you dont mind security holes
[10:09] <DARKGuy> !mp3
[10:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:09] <nexusvr> fabiano: usa Synaptic (almeno, io faccio cos)
[10:09] <cyris> i wouldn't use ftp if your concerned about security. use sftp or scp.
[10:09] <Flannel> fabiano: What do you mean?  Firefox should already be installed.
[10:09] <kane77> dyrne, no I dont mind... there are only 2 computers on the network :)
[10:09] <tjl30> it says Unable to access jarfile varsha.jar
[10:10] <Mirth> !WPA
[10:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:10] <nexusvr> fabiano: or, if you wish, unpack it in /opt then...
[10:10] <soundray> tjl30: enter the full path to varsha.jar
[10:10] <vikingr> I just switched from Debian to Ubuntu and got a problem with mounting my encrypted (cryptsetup luks) external hard drive. i get prompted for my password and type it in, but i get the message "Could not mount encrypted device. Did you supply a wrong passphrase?" (the password is correct, of course)
[10:11] <catid> kane77: you could use netcat to send a file between two linux machines pretty fast, or just sftp into one of them
[10:11] <Flannel> ArnoO: is that it?  Then you don't have the most recent version.
[10:11] <ArnoO> Flannel, really ?
[10:11] <Flannel> ArnoO: 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.4 is the most current version
[10:11] <POVaddct> catid: using sshfs is pretty cool
[10:11] <redwyrm> vikingr, are you supplying it a filename or an actual block device?
[10:11] <catid> never heard of it.. i'll look it up
[10:12] <fabiano> the firefox was unpack
[10:12] <kane77> catid, well my sister uses the second one and she is a linux-hater... (I realy tried to show her linux, but she is resistant :) )
[10:12] <ArnoO> Flannel, i have it sorry
[10:12] <Flannel> fabiano: Firefox is already installed.  Why are you unpacking it?
[10:12] <POVaddct> catid: mounting a ssh accessible machine
[10:12] <catid> there are sftp clients for windows too.. check out PuTTY
[10:12] <fabiano> is no installed yet
[10:13] <POVaddct> catid: sshfs does a real mount so the sftp connection is not limited to one application
[10:13] <Flannel> fabiano: if you installed Ubuntu, then you have firefox.  If not, you still shouldn't be installing it manually, it's in the repositories.
[10:13] <catid> that's pretty sweet
[10:13] <Mirth> Anyone know what this means? (In regards to having to enter the WPA password when you start Ubuntu each time): "## Please note that keyringpassword and login password must be the same."
[10:13] <fabiano> is a new version
[10:13] <POVaddct> catid: apt-get install sshfs   :)
[10:13] <vikingr> redwyrm: uhm.. i actually don't know - i only installed crpytsetup and plugged the usb-hd in
[10:13] <Flannel> fabiano: If you want FF 2.0, you might think about upgrading to Edgy.  as you probably want newer versions of everything else too.
[10:14] <redwyrm> vikingr, I would suggest trying it on the command line
[10:14] <nexusvr> fabiano: afaik if you unpack firefox in a directory then you can use it (please google for info)
[10:14] <fabiano> good boy you are
[10:14] <vikingr> redwyrm: ok, i'll do that. thanks
[10:14] <soundray> fabiano: upgrading to edgy is best. If not, use these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:14] <Flannel> !firefox | fabiano, here are insturctions if you're installing manually
[10:14] <ubotu> fabiano, here are insturctions if you're installing manually: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:14] <Flannel> Oh, psh.  I lose.
[10:14] <redwyrm> vikingr, I'm not saying you won't get the same error message...
[10:15] <dyrne> fabiano: yeah its basically tar xfvz file.tar.gz  then cd to the dir then ./firefox to run
[10:15] <nexusvr> upgrading to edgy is great, with decent ADSL lol
[10:15] <soundray> Flannel: so close as well...
[10:15] <ice-11> i used gparted to delete my swap partition and then made another one with the size of 1.6GB but my system still thinks i have 959MB.  how do i update this?
[10:15] <b00gz> How can I tell what my cdrom drive is being read as by my system?
[10:15] <dyrne> ice-11: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:16] <dyrne> ice-11: thats assuming youve rebooted if not just use swapon to tell it new partition
[10:16] <robdeman> hi folks. I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on my server. I need remote access. Do I need to enable SSH or something?
[10:16] <catid> so i'm listening to some mp3s on my usb headset.  it works great, but i hate having to switch the output device in XMMS
[10:16] <POVaddct> robdeman: apt-get install openssh-server
[10:17] <dyrne> ice-11: sudo swapoff   and sudo swapon to be exact
[10:17] <b00gz> How can I tell what my cdrom drive is being read as by my system?
[10:17] <ice-11> dryne: I have rebooted. and there is an entry in my fstab.  k trying that
[10:17] <catid> does anyone know how to set the usb headset as the default output device as soon as i plug it in?  maybe a modprobe script?
[10:17] <nexusvr> POVaddct: thank you i solved my issue too
[10:17] <soundray> dyrne: sudo mkswap /dev/hdX in between
[10:17] <eegore> IS there a screenshot utility for Kubuntu?
[10:17] <eegore> Is8
[10:17] <Mirth> !wine
[10:17] <eegore> Is*
[10:17] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:17] <dyrne> ice-11: what soundray said
[10:17] <soundray> eegore: have you tried the PrintScreen key?
[10:17] <georgy_> eegore : ksnapshot
[10:18] <catid> is there a new version of asoundconf or something i can use?
[10:18] <ice-11> hm....
[10:18] <tiffany1> is there a site like dotdeb.org for ubuntu ?
[10:19] <Nopal> ubotu is a eggdrop script ?
[10:19] <bruenig> Nopal, ubotu is custom made from what I have read
[10:19] <Mirth> ~/.wine/drive_c
[10:19] <Mirth> Where are these ~ folders?
[10:19] <rj686> how do i give my wireless chipset a SSID to connect to via terminal?
[10:19] <robdeman> POVaddct: thanks
[10:19] <vikingr> redwyrm: this is what i get :/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11566/
[10:19] <synic> Mirth: heh, ~ refers to your home directory
[10:19] <soundray> Mirth: enter 'echo ~' in a terminal
[10:19] <Mirth> Oh...
[10:19] <dyrne> rj686: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid whatever
[10:19] <POVaddct> Mirth: ~ is a synonym for your home dir
[10:20] <ice-11> soundray: dyrne: thanks :)
[10:20] <rj686> dyrne: how do i give it the hex codE?
[10:20] <soundray> ice-11: working?
[10:20] <dyrne> rj686: your key?
[10:20] <Mirth> Okay, thanks guys
[10:20] <ice-11> soundray:yes
[10:20] <rj686> dyrne: yep
[10:20] <dyrne> rj686: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid whatever key 111111
[10:20] <ice-11> thanks :D
[10:20] <rj686> dryne: thank you
[10:20] <dyrne> rj686: then dhclient eth1. np
[10:20] <thunder__> hi
[10:20] <thunder__> apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:20] <b00gz> How can I tell what my cdrom drive is being read as by my system? like /dev/cdrom ?
[10:21] <zappablantsen> u
[10:21] <thunder__> any ideas???
[10:21] <acemo> this is great.. opera can use firefox plugins, mplayerplug-in works great under firefox, but it does not displays anything on opera =(
[10:21] <thunder__> where's the confs??
[10:21] <robdeman> how do I tell Ubuntu to not use the install CDROM as repository? I need to insgtall Apache2 and it asks to insert the CD-ROM. I need to install it from the network repository?
[10:21] <ice-11> b00gz: l /dev | grep cdrom
[10:21] <ice-11> find where the cdrom is a symbolic link to
[10:21] <b00gz> ice-11: THANKS
[10:21] <dogmeat> im impressed with ubuntu
[10:21] <ice-11> b00gz: np
[10:21] <thunder__> i can't start apache :(
[10:22] <redwyrm> vikingr, I think you're missing kernel modules. try sudo modprobe aes sha256. and if that works, add those modules to /etc/modules
[10:22] <catid> hello.. does anyone have a script they use for setting the default sound card when a usb headset is plugged in?
[10:22] <zach89909> Is there a dhcp and tftp server that uses a GUI?
[10:22] <soundray> b00gz: or "dmesg | grep CD-ROM"
[10:22] <mrpoundsign> anyone know why networkmanager would not be running dhclient when connecting to a wireless network?
[10:23] <dyrne> mrpoundsign: /etc/network/interfaces   not setup correct maybe
[10:23] <wilberfan> Have you guys been experiencing the "no sound" problem this week in Edgy?  (Suspect it's an upgrade problem?)
[10:23] <Flannel> thunder__: Why not?
[10:23] <mrpoundsign> dyrne: it's only got lo0
[10:23] <zach89909> !tftp
[10:23] <ubotu> tftp: Trivial file transfer protocol client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-15 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:23] <catid> wilberfan: no
[10:23] <robdeman> how to I enable/disable repositories using the terminal?
[10:23] <LjL> robdeman: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:23] <thunder__> Flannel: i just installed apache and the apache2.conf is missing. how do i restore it??
[10:23] <wilberfan> several posts about it in the forum...
[10:23] <ant30> Hi, Do somebody know a method to pass paremeters a module that be included on the kernel compilation?
[10:23] <robdeman> LjL ah thanks!
[10:23] <wilberfan> just wondered if anyone has been sniffing around in here about it....
[10:23] <ice-11> anyone know why my virtual consoles are blank after coming back up from a standby?  i have an nvidia geforce go 7600 with latest drivers. kernel 2.6.18.2
[10:23] <Flannel> thunder__: You installed 'apache'? or 'apache2'?
[10:24] <thunder__> Flannel: apache2
[10:24] <catid> wilberfan: i'm using the latest stable kernel though so perhaps that's why
[10:24] <Flannel> thunder__: reinstall "apache2-common"
[10:24] <zach89909> !gui
[10:24] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[10:24] <thunder__> Flannel: sudo apt-get install apache2-common ?
[10:24] <thunder__> works?
[10:25] <thunder__> nope, it doesn't :(
[10:25] <Flannel> thunder__: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2-common && sudo apt-get install apache2-common
[10:25] <wilberfan> catid my backup box is edgy and was working fine last week...   Updated some stuff this week (i would have said to the latest kernel--which one are you refering to), and all-of-a-sudden a couple of days ago....no sound whatsoever....
[10:25] <Mirth> How do you install a .deb package to a certain directory of your choice?
[10:25] <zach89909> Is there a DHCP, PXE, and TFTP server that uses a GUI?
[10:26] <soundray> Mirth: dpkg has an unpack option... but why would you want that?
[10:26] <Slart> zach89909: I'd say almost certainly not..
[10:26] <catid> wilberfan: in order to get sound working at all i had to go to kernel.org and compile my own kernel.  ALSA only added support for my laptop's sound device within the last few months
[10:26] <vikingr> redwyrm: unfortunately loading these modules didn't do the trick
[10:26] <beg1689> whats so great about GUIs?
[10:26] <Mirth> I'm not really sure soundray :(
[10:26] <wilberfan> catid: ah...
[10:26] <soundray> Mirth: what's the problem you're trying to solve?
[10:26] <Slart> zach89909: there might be some that have some kind of gui utility to help configure it
[10:26] <beg1689> GUIs just make you have to *find* the fucntion you want to perform, rather then just do it
[10:27] <wilberfan> catid: ah...well i'm hoping the fiesty beta will fix it....
[10:27] <robdeman> hey folks how to I disable DHCP and set a static IP address using the terminal?
[10:27] <zach89909> Slart: Is that just to make things hard with linux?
[10:27] <catid> wilberfan: and before that i had to use some patches from the alsa mailing list.. was irritating
[10:27] <Mirth> I'm trying to instal the pam_keyring to stop nagging for my WPA password on startup, soundray
[10:27] <Slart> zach89909: webmin is one such utility.. but for some reason it's frowned up by the ubuntu community
[10:27] <redwyrm> vikingr, are you sure you have the right device?
[10:27] <Mirth> The instructions tell me to unzip to a folder
[10:27] <crimsun> wilberfan: it likely won't. Pastebin the info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:27] <Mirth> but it's a .deb file
[10:27] <vikingr> redwyrm: yes
[10:27] <Slart> zach89909: nope.. but a daemon must be able to run on a computer without X.. most servers don't run a desktop
[10:27] <crimsun> wilberfan: then tell me the url
[10:27] <Mirth> Oh wait...
[10:28] <Flannel> Slart: hardly frowned upon, well, not moreso in ubuntu than anything else.  The maintainer just stopped maintaining it, so it has no one to package it.
[10:28] <zach89909> Slart: in which way?
[10:28] <Mirth> I think I downloadded the wrong file.
[10:28] <thunder__> Flannel: ok, conf restore, apache2 doesn't show up
[10:28] <thunder__> Flannel: ok, conf restored, apache2 doesn't show up
[10:28] <wilberfan> crimsun: the url of....?
[10:28] <crimsun> wilberfan: your pastebin entry, of course.
[10:28] <Flannel> thunder__: where are you looking?
[10:28] <wilberfan> got it...
[10:28] <nosse> Mirth: have you tried apt-get way of installing?
[10:28] <Slart> zach89909: so if you make a dhcp server that has a gui you're making a product that most of the people that will use, can't.. because they don't have the desktop running
[10:28] <selinuxium> hi all, with the host name / domain name. If i am using dyndns and I have a dns record of blah.homelinux.com what bit goes where?
[10:28] <wilberfan> i'm at work right now...   have to do that later tonight....
[10:28] <Slart> Flannel: ahh.. so that's why.. thanks
[10:29] <ice-11> anyone know why my virtual consoles are blank after coming back up from a standby?  i have an nvidia geforce go 7600 with latest drivers. kernel 2.6.18.2
[10:29] <wilberfan> crimsun: will you be around in about 4 hours?  ;)
[10:29] <crimsun> wilberfan: maybe.
[10:29] <edward_> hiya. if i've forgotten the username and password is there any way to get into ubuntu?
[10:29] <Mirth> Couldn't find that for this program thing, nosse
[10:29] <wilberfan> i'll check in then...
[10:29] <ice-11> edward_: do you remember your root password?
[10:29] <redwyrm> vikingr, try sudo modprobe dm_mod dm_crypt
[10:29] <shafto> Command to execute a .bin file please anyone?
[10:29] <zach89909> Slart: I have GNOME!
[10:29] <soundray> edward_: yes, you can boot in recovery mode
[10:29] <nexusvr> ice-11 maybe it's an APM issue... not sure
[10:29] <Flannel> ice-11: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password, don't be silly.
[10:29] <soundray> ice-11: there is no root password in ubuntu
[10:30] <redwyrm> vikingr, and this guy seems to have the same problem: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.device-mapper.dm-crypt/2134
[10:30] <Slart> zach89909: but as I said.. there are quite a few little helper utilities that give you a gui for configuration.. but you won't find any servers that come with a gui themselves
[10:30] <ice-11> shafto: chmod +x theFile; run it
[10:30] <Flannel> edward_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[10:30] <dyrne> shafto: do 'head file.bin' that should give you an idea
[10:30] <ice-11> soundray: really? hmm.
[10:30] <nosse> Mirth: .deb files should be as easy to install, as put the package in the folder you want it, then double clik it
[10:30] <ice-11> nexusvr: my system doesn't support apm
[10:30] <Slart> zach89909: eh.. yes? so?
[10:30] <soundray> ice-11: unless you set one, which is strongly discouraged
[10:30] <vikingr> redwyrm: FATAL: Error inserting dm_mod (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/md/dm-mod.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter - dmesg says: "dm_mod: Unknown parameter `dm_crypt'"
[10:30] <nexusvr> ice-11 sorry didn't know :\ i'm lost
[10:30] <ice-11> soundray: so... how do you take care of admin tasks?
[10:31] <nosse> Mirth: or if KDE you have to right click and choose some option I don't remember
[10:31] <ice-11> nexusvr: np :)
[10:31] <soundray> ice-11: with sudo
[10:31] <wilberfan> laters, peeps...
[10:31] <Mirth> I think it's cause I downloaded the wrong file, hehe
[10:31] <vikingr> redwyrm: maybe this does also help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11568/ - thanks for your help btw
[10:31] <zach89909> Slart: How do I add a GUI to the one I already have?
[10:31] <ice-11> ahh. so any rogue app can just sudo and do whatever it wants...
[10:31] <redwyrm> vikingr, oops. try sudo modprobe dm_mod; sudo modprobe dm_crypt
[10:31] <Mirth> The second one I downloaded was just a folder, which I think it right.
[10:31] <Dasnipa`> ice-11, rogue apps cant sudo... it requires entering password
[10:32] <beg1689> anyone know if this is the games fault or a missing package fault? pygame.error: SDL_ttf render failed
[10:32] <soundray> ice-11: no. Please read up on sudo and don't make assumptions
[10:32] <soundray> !sudo | ice-11
[10:32] <ubotu> ice-11: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:32] <Slart> zach89909: ah.. I meant GUI as in a program that shows something on the screen in form of windows, buttons and such... openoffice has a gui.. xchat has a gui etc
[10:32] <vikingr> redwyrm: IT WORKS! :) THANKS A LOT!
[10:32] <fabiano_> i unpacked the new version fror ff how i install now?
[10:32] <redwyrm> :)
[10:32] <vikingr> (sorry for the capslock) ^
[10:32] <Dasnipa`> ice-11, the main difference between sudo and having a root account is that sudo, actions are logged
[10:32] <Stifler_90> hello!
[10:32] <fabiano_> from
[10:32] <ice-11> i know what sudo is :P  but if there is no root passowrd, then there isn't a root pass...
[10:32] <Slart> zach89909: I think gnome would fall under the category "desktop"
[10:32] <ice-11> sudo*
[10:32] <ice-11> ahh.
[10:32] <zach89909> slart: I know what a GUI is.
[10:32] <nexusvr> !firefox
[10:32] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:32] <redwyrm> vikingr, don't forget to add those 4 modules to /etc/modules so it will work after you reboot
[10:33] <nexusvr> !firefox | fabiano
[10:33] <ubotu> fabiano: please see above
[10:33] <ice-11> Dasipa`: yes, i guess the .bash_history doesn't catch everything
[10:33] <vikingr> redwyrm: i will. thanks a lot again :)
[10:33] <CoRnJuLiOx> does anyone here use epsxe? i'm having problems with the stupid padjoy plugin. its giving me the error, "padjoy: no usable input received" whenever i try to configure my controller (its a PSX controller hooked up to my PC via a PS->USB converter)
[10:33] <CoRnJuLiOx> its pointed at the right device and everything
[10:33] <Slart> zach89909: ok... then I don't understand your question.
[10:34] <Dasnipa`> ice-11, there are arguements for and against sudo, though in general sudo is a better solution
[10:34] <ice-11> Dasnipa`: for a newer user, yes i agree.
[10:34] <Dasnipa`> ice-11, even for advanced users...
[10:35] <fdan4896> How difficult is it to add a raid device driver to linux? I have a Promise RAID card that offers Linux drivers, but clearly they are not built into Ubuntu as the drives are not recognized during install. With Windoze you can add drivers at the beginning of the installation process, but I see no such opportunity during the Ubuntu install process.
[10:35] <zach89909>   Slart how do I configure DHCP, PXE, and TFTP in a Desktop enviroment without manually editing text files?
[10:35] <nexusvr> Dasnipa` can only sudoers use sudo? How can i add an user to the sudoers?
[10:35] <Dasnipa`> nexusvr, this is correct
[10:36] <zach89909> Slart: how do I configure DHCP, PXE, and TFTP in a Desktop enviroment without manually editing text files?
[10:36] <soundray> nexusvr: 'sudo adduser username admin' does it
[10:36] <ice-11> nexusvr: edit the /etc/sudoers file if i remember correctly
[10:36] <ice-11> hehe
[10:36] <soundray> ice-11: no
[10:36] <nexusvr> nice! !
[10:36] <Slart> zach89909: much better question =)... you find some kind of utility... webmin was such a utility (but it's no maintained any more).. I'm sure there are others too..
[10:36] <ice-11> well, i'm wrong again. you can't edit it. sorry.
[10:36] <ice-11> well shouldn't
[10:36] <Slart> !webmin
[10:36] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:36] <Slart> anyone know of an alternative to webmin?
[10:37] <ferronica> I am using creative Sound Blaster Audigy Sound Card and Cretive 5.1 Channel Speakers, How to configure Sound
[10:37] <zach89909> !slackware package
[10:37] <dyrne> Slart: part of the fun of linux is fooling with config files and getting an idea how apps acually work :)
[10:37] <ferronica> I am using creative Sound Blaster Audigy Sound Card and Cretive 5.1 Channel Speakers, How to configure Speaker settings and Sound???
[10:37] <Slart> dyrne: you're preaching to the wrong guy.. =)
[10:37] <nexusvr> ice-11 ok message received
[10:38] <ferronica> I am using Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Sound Card and Cretive 5.1 Channel Speakers, How to configure Speaker settings and Sound???
[10:38] <ice-11> k
[10:38] <dyrne> ferronica: open a terminal and type 'alsamixer'
[10:38] <zach89909> !webmin
[10:38] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:38] <dyrne> ferronica: play an mp3 or something as youre fooling with volume levels and such
[10:38] <robdeman> hey folks which repository has Trac ?
[10:38] <robdeman> I like to install trac but apt-get complains it cant find the trac package?
[10:39] <nexusvr> ferronica use alsamixer
[10:39] <Flannel> robdeman: trac is in universe, you'll need to enable universe
[10:39] <soundray> !universe > robdeman, read the private message from ubotu please
[10:39] <robdeman> Flannel: I did uncomment that -- do I need to reboot the server or something?
[10:39] <soundray> robdeman: no, run 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:39] <Flannel> robdeman: ah.  `sudo apt-get update` to reload th package cache
[10:40] <gdiebel> I had a question regarding the use of freetype hinting in ubuntu edgy. Does native hinting imply the patented bytecode interpreter or the freetype non-patented method of hinting (note not the autohinting)?
[10:40] <ferronica> dyrene: how  to configure through it ??
[10:40] <robdeman> aah thanks folks
[10:41] <bluemchen43> search with google for webmin it works i have a  edubuntu system
[10:41] <josef> hello
[10:42] <Mirth> !wine
[10:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:42] <FLSimpsonKPT> how would I be able to setup steam with wine?
[10:42] <Przemek> hej
[10:42] <ferronica> dyrene: Any other way???
[10:43] <roxlu> Hi everyone, whats the name of that developers package?
[10:43] <josef> r0bby! :)
[10:43] <soundray> roxlu: build-essential?
[10:43] <FLSimpsonKPT> how would I be able to setup steam with wine?
[10:43] <roxlu> ahh! thanks soundray
[10:43] <ferronica> dyrene: any other way???
[10:44] <Mirth> !echo
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about echo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <roxlu> soundray: i'm trying to write a simple c++ server, but IPPROTO_TCP is undefined (?!)
[10:44] <roxlu> soundray: do you have any idea?
[10:44] <soundray> ferronica: use the correct nickname
[10:44] <soundray> roxlu: not the faintest, sorry
[10:44] <ferronica> soundray: sorry i didint get you
[10:45] <crdlb> ferronica, you spelled dyrne wrong
[10:45] <sabotai> test
[10:45] <ferronica> soundray: OH sorry
[10:45] <iUbuntu> I've download an .rpm package, used alien to convert it to .deb format, and now when I run "alien -d the/name/of/the/file.deb I get this error ->
[10:45] <iUbuntu> dpkg: error processing gaim_2.0.0-1_i386.deb (--install):
[10:45] <iUbuntu>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/gaim.1.gz', which is also in package gaim-data
[10:45] <iUbuntu> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[10:45] <iUbuntu> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:45] <iUbuntu>  gaim_2.0.0-1_i386.deb
[10:45] <sabotai> hi people
[10:46] <sabotai> hello
[10:46] <soundray> iUbuntu: why are you converting an rpm, when there's a native ubuntu package?
[10:46] <Flannel> iUbuntu: Why don't you just use the GAIM in the repositories?
[10:46] <Flannel> sheesh.  Late again.
[10:46] <iUbuntu> Because the GAIM in the package manager or repositories has 2.0.0 Beta 3 , and I want Beta 6 .
[10:47] <crdlb> iUbuntu, any particular reason?
[10:47] <iUbuntu> crdlb,  Do I have to have a reason ?
[10:47] <ferronica> soundray: i am using ubuntu 6.10 LTS Dapper Drake is there any need tp upgrade???
[10:47] <crdlb> iUbuntu, it's not worth it if you don't have a reason
[10:48] <crdlb> ferronica, 6.06 you mean?
[10:48] <iUbuntu> crdlb,  Trust me, it's worth it atleast to me.
[10:48] <soundray> iUbuntu: if you absolutely must, take the version from the feisty repo. That should cause fewer problem than an rpm.
[10:48] <ferronica> crdlb: yes
[10:48] <soundray> ferronica: no, you aren't. Check again
[10:48] <ferronica> crdlb: 6.06 LTS
[10:48] <ferronica> crdlb: how to check
[10:48] <Dasnipa`> iUbuntu, in like 1 month feisty will be out with either b6 or 2.0 final depending on how things play out
[10:48] <iUbuntu> Ferret,  cat /etc/issue
[10:49] <soundray> ferronica: you don't have to upgrade. It is stable, supported and will be for a long time.
[10:49] <iUbuntu> soundray,  rather than just taking out the package for gaim from fiesty respo, is there a way to fix this error?
[10:49] <Stifler_90> does somebody have ubuntu 64bits?
[10:49] <iUbuntu> Dasnipa`,  Thanks
[10:49] <ferronica> crdlb: But in ubuntu i read to upgrade as possible
[10:49] <ferronica> crdlb: what you have????
[10:50] <iUbuntu> Stifler_90, no, and there is no reason for you to use 64bit OS.
[10:50] <soundray> iUbuntu: there is, but you're making a mess of your system. Take the feisty version.
[10:50] <Flannel> !anyone | Stifler_90
[10:50] <ubotu> Stifler_90: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:50] <soundray> Stifler_90: ask a support question.
[10:50] <iUbuntu> soundray,  alright  thnks, and what happens if I have other softwares that get this error, any fix?
[10:50] <crdlb> ferronica, 6.06 will be supported for 3 years (abt. 2 left), and then there will be an upgrade to the latest LTS version
[10:50] <Flannel> iUbuntu: What error?
[10:51] <iUbuntu> Flannel,  I've just posted it above.
[10:51] <soundray> iUbuntu: dpkg has various --force-something options. Read man dpkg and be aware that you can really mess things up with those.
[10:51] <ferronica> crdlb: you too  using 6.06 LTS
[10:51] <crdlb> ferronica, on both of my machines that use ubuntu, yes
[10:51] <Stifler_90> no..it's not support..i'ts that...64bit of ubuntu..does not have big support..I need to know if they are big differences between 32bit & 64bit..i'm on a core 2 duo t5600...(sorry for my english)
[10:51] <soundray> iUbuntu: make a full backup before you try any --force options.
[10:51] <ferronica> crdlb: okay :)
[10:52] <Flannel> iUbuntu: oh, the package one?  -d is when you specify the path to the rpm file, not the deb file
[10:52] <ferronica> crdlb: are you completley switched over to ubuntu???
[10:52] <soundray> Stifler_90: for everyday office use, 32bit is more suitable. 64bit is faster, but you'll notice it only when you're numbercrunching
[10:52] <crdlb> ferronica, ubuntu + gentoo
[10:52] <Stifler_90> when i said differences i mean..performance difference
[10:52] <iUbuntu> Flannel,  alien -d converts a package that is in .rpm and converts it into .deb
[10:52] <ferronica> crdlb: no window
[10:52] <crdlb> ferronica, no windows since 2002 if that's what you're asking
[10:53] <Flannel> iUbuntu: right, you give it the path to the rpm, your paste has a .deb file in there.
[10:53] <Stifler_90> so...maybe in games & other programs..i don't need 64bit?
[10:53] <fatsheep> what is the name of the package that allows you to open a new terminal from the right click menu?
[10:53] <fatsheep> (it's an extension of nautilus)
[10:53] <beg1689> e17?
[10:53] <crdlb> fatlip, nautilus-open-terminal
[10:53] <crdlb> fatsheep, ^^
[10:53] <soundray> Stifler_90: if you're gaming, stick with 32bits, because wine won't run in 64.
[10:53] <Stifler_90> i also develop...(i come frome windows..on visual studio..)
[10:53] <ferronica> crdlb: yes i am talking about microsoft windows
[10:53] <iUbuntu> Flannel, my mistake ..  the/name/of/file.rpm
[10:53] <fatsheep> crdlb thanks
[10:53] <beg1689> why dont you use a shortcut for it
[10:53] <beg1689> i just use Win+`
[10:54] <Someone29> hi guys
[10:54] <Stifler_90> but in normal use..like opening a program..or exploring desktop file & other
[10:54] <Stifler_90> will i notice difference?
[10:54] <Someone29> can any one help me with a link to the live cd ?
[10:54] <soundray> Stifler_90: no
[10:54] <beg1689> I was a pure windows user just months ago, i discovered linux, havent touched windows since! linux ftfw!
[10:54] <Flannel> Someone29: ubuntu.com/download
[10:54] <Syska> Hi, how can I get the IP, when I only got the MAC address ?
[10:55] <Someone29> i tryed there , i havent seen the live version
[10:55] <Stifler_90> hey thanks for you're time..you convinced me..format & 32bit
[10:55] <Flannel> Someone29: "desktop" is the liveCD
[10:55] <Someone29> or am i mistaken
[10:55] <iUbuntu> Stifler_90, if your talking about system performance gain, then, you'll see a slightly boost in 64bit, especially if you have all the 64bit drivers.
[10:55] <beg1689> yea its the same thing
[10:55] <Someone29> ahh ok
[10:55] <Someone29> thx for the help
[10:55] <beg1689> it loads a full desktop its weet, you can install packages and everything
[10:55] <iUbuntu> soundray,  which one ? Backports? Proposed?
[10:55] <eV_64> Stifler_90, good luck!
[10:56] <Stifler_90> iubuntu...but not a HUGE difference no?..i mean..do you think the best for me is 32?
[10:56] <eV_64> Stifler_90, i think 32
[10:57] <iUbuntu> Stifler_90,  for now? 32 =)
[10:57] <Hotkey> can i put the live cd iso on usb key and boot from that?
[10:57] <Dougie_> !ati
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <soundray> iUbuntu: download from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gaim/ and install with dpkg -i
[10:57] <xxxxxxxx> hello
[10:57] <KalleDK> Hey I'm kinda new to linux, but I'm trying to get a desktop on my laptop, the problem is the livecd isnt working on it. So I've installed a server edition and would like to "upgrade" it to have a desktop
[10:57] <iUbuntu> Hotkey,  you can boot from usb, if the BIOS allows you to boot from USB.
[10:57] <KnowledgEngi> .
[10:57] <KnowledgEngi> :(
[10:57] <KnowledgEngi> i have a big big problem
[10:57] <KalleDK> I tried the minimum install guide from the forum but that doesnt seems to work
[10:58] <iUbuntu> soundray,  alright thanks, last question if you don't mind. What's the differences between multiverse and universe.
[10:58] <iUbuntu> ?
[10:58] <eV_64> KalleDK, i believe you would have been better off using the alternate install disc instead of the server
[10:58] <soundray> KalleDK: install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage. It'll pull in everything
[10:58] <Stifler_90> you know what..i am a maniac of performance..i spent a lot of money for this pc...and i want to use all it resources...
[10:58] <KnowledgEngi> in /media/hda3 i have 5GB of mp3, bat /dev/hda3 do not contain the file system
[10:58] <KnowledgEngi> :(
[10:58] <Hotkey> iUbuntu ok thx - anything I need to know about "putting" the iso on the thumb drive?
[10:58] <KalleDK> and the insttl for that iss ??
[10:58] <CoRnJuLiOx> does anyone know if i need to change permissions on a device file to get my PSX pad to work here?
[10:58] <eV_64> KalleDK, actually soundray said you can just install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[10:58] <KalleDK> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop metapackage ?
[10:58] <soundray> iUbuntu: software in universe is licensed to permit redistribution *and* modification. Multiverse software is non-free in the wider sense
[10:59] <nosse> KalleDK: soundray propably meant that type in: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:59] <KalleDK> thx
[10:59] <KalleDK> I'll try that
[10:59] <Hotkey> iUbuntu ive got 6.10 on CD now - can I just copy files to usb drive?
[10:59] <bluemchen43> use ifconfig in terminal so you will see many about your network
[10:59] <eV_64> Hotkey,  if it is fat32
[10:59] <iUbuntu> Hotkey,  I've saved the link to my favorites, in my windows box on the other machine. If you could give me some time, i'll get it for you, or just google for the instruction on how to do it.
[11:00] <mbdl> hello! is there anything i can do to make my buttons on my keyboard work.... this is my keyboard http://www.pkjg.com/articleimages/2006-09-28/s3.jpg
[11:00] <PakiPenguin> hello eveyrone
[11:00] <Hotkey> eV_64 yep fat32
[11:00] <iUbuntu> soundray,  And When exactly do I need to use Multiverse? When I've got the license key for a software?
[11:00] <eV_64> Hotkey, it should show up on the desktop
[11:00] <Hotkey> iUbuntu ok
[11:00] <PakiPenguin> i am trying to install jre on ubuntu dapper ,  but cant seem to get through it , can someone point me to some resource? or howto?
[11:00] <Hotkey> eV_64 ?
[11:01] <erUSUL> !java > PakiPenguin
[11:01] <PakiPenguin> !java
[11:01] <KalleDK> aregh mein good thats a huge download :P
[11:01] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[11:01] <eV_64> Hotkey, yes?
[11:01] <soundray> iUbuntu: no, when you decide to use something like Acrobat Reader, which comes with a non-free license (free as in beer, but not free as in speech)
[11:01] <theherbalizer> hey guys, trying to mount a ntfs drive, but not sure if it's hda1 or hdc# or whatever... how can i list unmounted volumes
[11:01] <Hotkey> eV_64 what should show up on what desktop?
[11:01] <eV_64> Hotkey,  the usb drive
[11:02] <KalleDK> type mount then you can see the mounted :P
[11:02] <mbdl> is there anything i can do to make my buttons on my keyboard work.... this is my keyboard http://www.pkjg.com/articleimages/2006-09-28/s3.jpg
[11:02] <iUbuntu> theherbalizer,  is it SATA or ATA drive?
[11:02] <Nullbyte> theherbalizer: write sudo cfdisk, it shows a list of all partitions
[11:02] <dyrne> theherbalizer: sudo fdisk -l will tell you partition type and such
[11:02] <theherbalizer> iUbuntu: ata
[11:02] <theherbalizer> dyrne: L or I?
[11:02] <dyrne> mbdl: theherbalizer lower L
[11:02] <Hotkey> eV_64 LOL I prolly didnt supply enuf info - running XP - wanna boot LiveCD but not really CD - wanna boot from usb thumb drive
[11:02] <iUbuntu> theherbalizer,  it usually would be /dev/hda1
[11:03] <eV_64> Hotkey, there are guides for that, look on google
[11:03] <dyrne> mbdl: you can change the keyboard layout like: setxkbmap -layout 'si,us' -model pc105  just do a google search for your keyboard model and layout i guess
[11:03] <Hotkey> eV_64 so i can't just put the iso from cd onto the usb drive eh?
[11:03] <mbdl> dyrne: u make no sence
[11:04] <theherbalizer> ""sudo mount /dev/hdc2 -t ext3 /media/squee""  syntax correct?
[11:04] <dyrne> mbdl: it sounds reasonable in my head :)
[11:04] <eV_64> Hotkey, you would have to extract the files from the iso
[11:04] <eV_64> Hotkey, i think winrar is able to do this
[11:04] <mbdl> dyrne: i Have an hp  kb-0228
[11:04] <mbdl> dyrne: and i already tryed
[11:05] <mbdl> dyrne:google
[11:05] <Hotkey> eV_64 I have winrar and a 6.10 cd
[11:05] <eV_64> is it the iso file?
[11:05] <theherbalizer> nm, i got it
[11:05] <theherbalizer> ty all!
[11:05] <soundray> Hotkey: this page has instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:06] <soundray> Hotkey: you may have to adapt some of them to edgy
[11:06] <iUbuntu> theherbalizer,  is your ata drive in 2nd partition on your seconadry master?
[11:06] <Hotkey> eV_64 yep
[11:06] <Drac|Bcomp> Howdy. I just installed Edgy on my little brother's computer. When GNOME starts, I get the "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit." error. I've completely removed and reinstalled gnome-panel. Can somebody help me?
[11:06] <Hotkey> soundray aha! thx - i'll head over there
[11:06] <MrFeetio> how do i set banshee to be my default music player?
[11:06] <dyrne> mbdl: gotta go: Applications-->Desktop Preferences-->Keyboard Shortcuts alot of
[11:06] <dyrne> > this can be set up.  Simply select the function you want, hit the
[11:06] <dyrne> > key want to perform that function and whala!
[11:06] <dyrne> sorry for paste
[11:07] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: Go into System>Preferences>Sessions and see if there's a duplicate entry
[11:07] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: That'd be easier if I had a panel.
[11:07] <mbdl> dyrne: it only works for KEY not the shortcut buttons
[11:07] <Dane1> aah
[11:07] <mbdl> dyrne: iv tryed everything already on the menus
[11:07] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: looking for a workaround
[11:08] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: Not to mention I've deleted every user config file and still have the problem.
[11:08] <iUbuntu> soundray,  you around?
[11:08] <soundray> Drac|Bcomp: log in on the text console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and create a new user: 'sudo adduser newuser'
[11:08] <soundray> iUbuntu: yes
[11:08] <Drac|Bcomp> soundray: I'm in irssi. :P
[11:08] <catid> hello.. does anyone have a guide for setting up pulseaudio on Edgy?
[11:08] <soundray> Drac|Bcomp: so?
[11:08] <iUbuntu> soundray,  I can msg you with the error msg, when I downloaded a copy of it from archive.ubuntu.com repositories
[11:08] <iUbuntu> if you don't mind
[11:08] <Mirth> !wine
[11:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:09] <soundray> iUbuntu: go ahead
[11:09] <iUbuntu> soundray,  Thanks
[11:09] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: I'm looking for other config files that may be messing you up.
[11:09] <drraid> What happens in 2008, when the support stops for Ubuntu 6.10?
[11:09] <drraid> will updates no longer be supported/available?
[11:09] <drraid> Can you dist-upgrade?
[11:09] <eV_64> sound is a wave :-p
[11:10] <soundray> drraid: yes, you can upgrade ubuntu to a new release.
[11:10] <drraid> soundray: without losing/needing to reinstall data?
[11:10] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: Well, it's a brand new system. This may be worthy of a bug report. All the same, I'd appreciate it if you did that.
[11:10] <soundray> iUbuntu: I'm not getting anything. You have to be registered. Use paste.ubuntu-nl.org instead
[11:10] <catid> soundray: i heard that the next version of Ubuntu has pulseaudio installed.. is there a way for me to get that feature now?
[11:11] <soundray> drraid: yes, that's the design. It's recommended to have a backup, just in case.
[11:11] <Drac|Bcomp> soundray: What do you expect me to do with an additional user?
[11:11] <kbrooks> catid, what next version? 7.04 ?
[11:11] <Erealz> hey eveyone  i love ubuntu. i got my cousin to use linux
[11:11] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: k.  Looking in some X11 startup files.
[11:11] <sax> Hi everyone, my OOo suddenly stopped working, no errors in terminal.  Any ideas?
[11:11] <catid> kbrooks: *shrugs* the speaker didn't say
[11:11] <kbrooks> catid:
[11:11] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: Well, I could edit those and check. I know my way around that stuff.
[11:11] <kbrooks> !info pulseaudio fiesty
[11:11] <kbrooks> !info pulseaudio feisty
[11:11] <soundray> catid: I don't think so. Upgrade to feisty and help testing it ;)
[11:11] <ubotu> Package pulseaudio does not exist in edgy
[11:12] <ubotu> pulseaudio: PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.5-5ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 288 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[11:12] <robdeman> hi folsk I just plugged in my USB external harddrive. How do I access it from the terminal? how do I get a list of attached harddrives or something like that?
[11:12] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: open /etc/X11/gdm/gdmprefetchlist in an editor and see if there are duplicates.
[11:12] <kbrooks> catid, yeah. in feisty
[11:12] <catid> soundray: sounds like fun, how do i get it?
[11:12] <sjaak_yen> Hi it's not a real ubuntu question but how can I make automatic a screen shot from +/-1000 websites in prefer console mode or gnome or KDE
[11:12] <kbrooks> catid, what version are you upgrading from?
[11:12] <catid> 6.10
[11:12] <kbrooks> catid, just checking
[11:12] <iUbuntu> catid,  you could try from the fiesty repos.
[11:12] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: BTW, are you running dapper or edgy?
[11:12] <kbrooks> catid, alt+f2, type gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[11:13] <soundray> Drac|Bcomp: give it admin rights, delete the non-working home dir and restore it from /etc/skel -- make sense?
[11:13] <Mirth> Do I need Internet Explorer to run AIM 5.5 in Wine on Ubuntu?
[11:13] <kbrooks> catid, and press enter
[11:13] <iUbuntu> soundray,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11574/
[11:13] <catid> oh sweet i didn't notice that
[11:13] <puff> Evening.
[11:13] <robdeman> I think my external harddrive is /sdc/ .. but how do I mount it or access it?
[11:13] <Plecebo> Can someone help me troubleshoot my USB memory card reader. Most of the time it will detect the card inserted but when you transfer files it will continually disconnect giving a warning about unsafe device removal. Right now it wont even connect though. I have tried several USB ports, all with the same result.
[11:13] <soundray> Drac|Bcomp: of course, you can do that from a text console without creating a new user.
[11:13] <kbrooks> Mirth, In theory, you shouldn't need it. And why are you running AIM in Wine when a much better solution, Gaim, exists?
[11:14] <puff> I tried to use CD Creator to burn a DVD.  It asked me what disk I wanted to put the ISO on... not the CD/DVD.
[11:14] <Drac|Bcomp> soundray: No sign of duplicates. I looked very carefully.
[11:14] <Mirth> I just don't like the lack of settings in GAIM, kbrooks
[11:14] <catid> down the rabbit hole we go..
[11:14] <majnoon> kbrooks, boredom ??
[11:14] <soundray> iUbuntu: you need the gaim-data .deb as well
[11:14] <puff> Is this normal, am I supposed ot then use the command line tool to burn the ISO to the DVD?
[11:14] <Drac|Bcomp> soundray: Sorry. Wrong person.
[11:14] <kbrooks> Mirth, there *are* settings in gaim. do yo u mean that gaim is too dumbed down?
[11:14] <Plecebo> It works on another computer with 6.10, but not this one. I thought it might be a problem with the USB chipset (nforce4 MB)
[11:14] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: hmmm...have you grep'd your home directory and /etc/skel for gnome-panel?  Don't forget to search hidden files too.
[11:15] <Mirth> A little bit, kbrooks...
[11:15] <catid> oh it's going to use compiz instead of beryl..  am i going to lose any features?
[11:15] <Mirth> When I changed the font sizes and stuff, everyone told me they were like, too big on their end
[11:15] <kbrooks> mirth: i agree. but it works best for me.
[11:15] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: Edgy, as per recomendations for this particular purpose. No sign of duplicates as far as I can see, but I'm commenting out the line I see and starting GNOME to test.
[11:15] <kbrooks> mirth: (kde is ok for me too, since i know a bit of kde)
[11:15] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: (obvious but necessary question) have you tried rebooting?  Also, have you tried dropping to init 1, killing gnome and x stuff, and then going back to init 3 (I think that's the normal init)?
[11:16] <AndrewB> !wireless
[11:16] <CoRnJuLiOx> has anyone here ever used padjoy for epsxe? its not 'receiving any usable input' (according to the terminal) even though my controller is hooked up through usb, i can see /dev/input/js0, and everything looks like it'd work just fine, but it doesn't. is something causing a conflict here? can anyone lend a hand?
[11:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:16] <kbrooks> Mirth, gnome is, unfortunately but true, like windows in the "dumbing down" part.
[11:16] <soundray> Plecebo: could the cable be bad?
[11:16] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: Crazy. Still get the error even with the line commented out...
[11:16] <DSpair> johnnybuoy, Have a look at my dual-head config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11575/
[11:16] <Mirth> Ah
[11:16] <Mirth> Never used KDE before kbrooks
[11:17] <Mirth> Im new to the whole Linux thing :D
[11:17] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: weird.  did you see my above post?  (about init 1, etc.)  have you tried it yet?
[11:17] <kbrooks> Mirth, i'd recommend both to new users
[11:17] <Plecebo> soundray, suppose it is possible, the same cable/reader works on the 2nd computer though, wouldnt that indicate that it is not a hardware problem per se?
[11:17] <kbrooks> mirth: both are easy to use, have good programs, etc
[11:17] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: Haven't even tried the grep thing yet. Hang on.
[11:17] <Mirth> Yeah, I'm liking Ubuntu so far.
[11:17] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: heh ok
[11:18] <Mirth> Would like to try others when I get a little more familiar with Linux in general
[11:18] <soundray> Plecebo: yes, unless the USB subsystem on the 1st PC is more finicky. But I agree it's unlikely.
[11:18] <Drac|Bcomp> I've forgotten the format for grep'ing something... can somebody refresh my memory?
[11:18] <jrib> Drac|Bcomp: grep needle /haystack
[11:18] <eV64> !identd
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <soundray> Drac|Bcomp: grep searchstring file1 file2
[11:18] <Drac|Bcomp> jrib: Oh. RIght. I had it backwards
[11:18] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: grep <what you're looking for> <string>
[11:18] <thoreauputic> !info gidentd
[11:18] <soundray> jrib: cute ;)
[11:18] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp whoops
[11:19] <ubotu> gidentd: RFC1413 compliant IPv4/IPv6 ident daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-7.2 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 136 kB
[11:19] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: grep <string> file
[11:19] <iUbuntu> soundray,  thanks for your time.
[11:19] <iUbuntu> really appreciated it.
[11:19] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: grep gnome-panel /etc/skel gives nothing, same with the home dir.
[11:19] <Plecebo> soundray, thanks for your help. How would I go about troubleshooting something like that? Or general USB problems?
[11:19] <soundray> iUbuntu: is it working with the -data package?
[11:19] <addakorn> When I attempt to install VirtualBox 1.3.2 on Ubunutu Edgy Eft I get an error message starting with "(Kernel module not found)...fail!" Any ideas?
[11:19] <cafuego_> Drac|Bcomp: rgrep gnome-panel ~/.gnome2
[11:20] <iUbuntu> soundray,  it did, but this time I got same error, except it doesn't say gaim-data anymore.
[11:20] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: ok.  Then it's not loading it from a user config file.  Did you use the -R option (search recursively?)
[11:20] <Drac|Bcomp> cafuego_: I completely removed those files. Why would it be regenerating them with the extra instance?
[11:20] <soundray> Plecebo: well, I always fire up a 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and look at the msgs while I plug/unplug. But it's unlikely to be useful in your case.
[11:20] <iUbuntu> soundray,  gaim-dbg depends on gaim (= 1:2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu2); however:
[11:20] <iUbuntu>   Package gaim is not installed.
[11:20] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: Oh. Whoops.
[11:20] <KalleDK> How do I list people who are connected to my server via ssh ??
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> KalleDK: who
[11:21] <Plecebo> soundray, its a place to start...
[11:21] <sax> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11576/  Hi, I can't open OOo unless I use sudo, and I get those errors... I use Kubuntu, any ideas about how to fix this?  I can't open it any other way.
[11:22] <addakorn> Any VirtualBox pros present?
[11:22] <soundray> iUbuntu: okay, you need to get a third package, gaim_2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[11:22] <iUbuntu> soundray,  I think i found the culprit, heh. I've downloaded gaim-dbg
[11:22] <KalleDK> tonyyarusso People who are logged in on my computer via the internet
[11:22] <iUbuntu> but not gaim2
[11:22] <Flannel> sax: You shouldn't be using sudo for OO, if anything, kdesu or gksu.  Try removing .ICEauthority and/or .Xauthority
[11:22] <soundray> iUbuntu: the -dbg one is unnecessary unless you want to debug
[11:22] <sax> okay.  thanks
[11:22] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: I need to go fill out an invoice (I'm at work).  BRB.
[11:22] <Drac|Bcomp> Dane1: I'm gonna try a reboot
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> KalleDK: the command, not the question.
[11:22] <KalleDK> H
[11:22] <KalleDK> :p
[11:23] <KalleDK> tHX _
[11:23] <iUbuntu> soundray, sweet thanks! .. out of curiosity have you tried SuSE ?
[11:23] <soundray> Plecebo: it sounds like you've tried all the right things already. Maybe slot in an extra USB PCI card.
[11:23] <soundray> iUbuntu: I grew up on SuSE ;)
[11:23] <Plecebo> soundray, it keeps complaining about not being able to read a device sdd, and that is probably the USB memory card... could it be stuck?
[11:23] <soundray> iUbuntu: but I haven't tried them for ten years or so.
[11:24] <sax> Flannel: I tried those, same errors, gksu worked, kdesu didn't.  Where are .ICEauthority and .Xauthority?
[11:24] <iUbuntu> soundray,  Heh, i've got my doubts on SuSE.. So far SuSE is great, BUT.. it just makes things complicated, like for example, you need to get a software source or installation source for suse, to the package you need.
[11:24] <Flannel> sax: in your home folder
[11:24] <sax> haha, okay thanks.  Just delete it?  Flannel
[11:25] <Flannel> sax: yeah or chmod them if you'd like, back to your own user
[11:25] <sax> alrighty, thanks for the assistance
[11:25] <soundray> Plecebo: another shot-in-the-dark approach is to boot with the reader and card in place, see if it makes a difference.
[11:25] <soundray> Plecebo: that error doesn't really tell us more
[11:25] <Plecebo> soundray, roger i'll try rebooting
[11:25] <iUbuntu> Grr .. Gaim needs it's software libraries. :@
[11:26] <Plecebo> soundray, thanks for the assistance i'll be back
[11:26] <Flannel> sax: no idea if that'll work.  But running GUI apps with plain `sudo` causes that problem (where some things can't be run as regular users anymore)
[11:26] <iUbuntu> sax,  Sax means Right in east Africa, heh.
[11:26] <soundray> iUbuntu: I can't really see any reason to move away from Debian-based systems any more.
[11:26] <sax> Haha, cool, iUbuntu:  It means saxophone, here.  Haha.
[11:26] <ikonia> soundray: its all personal preference and fit for purpose
[11:26] <iUbuntu> LOL!
[11:27] <sax> Flannel: I'll figure it out, thanks.
[11:27] <byen> !vista
[11:27] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[11:27] <iUbuntu> soundray,  The reason I liked debian-based system especially Ubuntu because it got it's own Repositories, but for SuSE it depends on others like Best known installation source would be Pacman/Packman .
[11:27] <soundray> ikonia: sure, we're talking preferences here. Offtopic, I know
[11:28] <soundray> ubotu: watch it, you'll get kicked for being o-t!
[11:28] <soundray> ;)
[11:28] <VR_> !beta
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <nowhere_man> hi
[11:28] <iUbuntu> soundray,  Going to try Fedora next week, hopefully it wouldn't ask me to specify a software source.
[11:28] <nowhere_man> as far as licences are concerned, is it OK to sell Ubuntu CDs ?
[11:28] <ikonia> soundray: nah, thats cool
[11:28] <iUbuntu> nowhere_man,  yes.
[11:28] <ikonia> nowhere_man: not really
[11:29] <eV64> !fesity | VR_
[11:29] <ikonia> nowhere_man: you can sell the media - not the product
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <bruenig> nowhere_man, it is ok, kind of garbage in my mind but
[11:29] <eV64> soundray, ha
[11:29] <VR_> !feisty
[11:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:29] <eV64> !feisty | VR_
[11:29] <ubotu> VR_: please see above
[11:29] <eV64> hah
[11:29] <VR_> =)
[11:29] <eV64> :)
[11:29] <soundray> eV64: ha yourself ;)
[11:29] <dasui> hello
[11:30] <connor> I installed SuperTuxKart, but it's not showing up in the Games Menu
[11:30] <bruenig> !info planetpenguin-racer
[11:30] <ubotu> planetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-8 (edgy), package size 273 kB, installed size 744 kB
[11:31] <iUbuntu> IS there any similar for rpmfind.net but for Ubuntu, I need to find a specified lib.
[11:31] <bruenig> !info supertuxkart
[11:31] <ubotu> supertuxkart: a kart racing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.0.1-2 (edgy), package size 132 kB, installed size 448 kB
[11:31] <PakiPenguin> can anyone please look into thi s, this is ubuntu dapper and i am trying to run jboss on it and when i try to run ./run.sh in bin , it crashes giving this error http://pastebin.ca/407149 , any help please?
[11:31] <bruenig> 0.0.0.1-2
[11:31] <soundray> !info apt-file | iUbuntu
[11:31] <bruenig> wow someone is modest
[11:31] <ubotu> iubuntu: apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[11:31] <dasui> does anybody have a clue how I can automatically shutdown linux under gnome without screwing my gnome session? under kde there is a tool called kdeshutdown but i haven found something similar for gnome...
[11:31] <dasui> +t
[11:31] <soundray> !apt-file | iUbuntu
[11:31] <ubotu> iUbuntu: apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[11:31] <bruenig> dasui, shutting down your computer, will stop your gnome session, what do you mean screw
[11:32] <fasozu> arc - bla
[11:32] <iUbuntu> soundray,  The reason SuSE is pain in the a$$ for newcomers, is cause it doesn't have it's own software source, but relies on other sites as Pacman/Packman, true?
[11:32] <kbrooks> iUbuntu, take to #ubuntu-offtopic pls
[11:32] <dasui> bruening: thx for your answer. if i shutdown using the "shudown -h [time] "command there are problems with my gnome session.
[11:33] <bruenig> dasui, what problems
[11:33] <cables_> I've got a package that got a backported update, and I'd like to force it not to update. I did "force version" in Synaptic, but it tried to update it. Then I did "lock version," but it didn't do anything.
[11:33] <Flannel> !pin | cables_
[11:33] <ubotu> cables_: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[11:33] <dasui> bruenig: session doesnt save properly
[11:33] <bruenig> !apt-pinning
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-pinning - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <cables_> Flannel, thanks
[11:33] <Drac|BComp> Dane1: Go figure. I just needed a restart.
[11:33] <cables_> bruenig, thanks also :{
[11:33] <soundray> iUbuntu: when I last tried SuSE >10 years ago, that wasn't the problem. It came on five CDs, pretty much everything was there, including a localized CDDB for mainstream records.
[11:33] <cables_> *:)
[11:33] <bruenig> dasui, oh, I never save sessions. Didn't realize people actually did that
[11:33] <dasui> i need that for my window management under sawfish
[11:34] <Drac|BComp> Dane1: I'm always reluctant to restart a machine to fix a problem. :P
[11:34] <cables_> bruenig, that was supposed to be smiling, not frowning.
[11:34] <Drac|BComp> Dane1: Anyway, thanks for the help anyway. I'm good from here on.
[11:35] <evoxy> what are some good linux games?
[11:35] <bruenig> !frozen-bubble
[11:35] <mhemu> does java no work on fiesty fawn??
[11:35] <soundray> !games | evoxy
[11:35] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[11:35] <ubotu> evoxy: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:35] <mhemu> *not
[11:35] <Dane1> Drac|Bcomp: no problem
[11:35] <dasui> bruenig, well...too bad that there is no shutdown-tool for gnome. i guess i will close all windows and hope no more problems occur after reboot. a friend who is a linux expert told me not to use the shutdown command under gnome
[11:35] <bruenig> mheath, #ubuntu+1
[11:35] <soundray> mhemu: yes it does. Ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:35] <Fizzbane> How do i set up my xorg.conf for twinview on my 17" envision and 15" hansol 500A??
[11:36] <mhemu> okie dokie, thanks
[11:36] <bruenig> dasui, just don't save sessions, setup startup commands to have stuff launch on startup like normal people
[11:36] <soundray> Fizzbane: there is a good readme in the nvidia-glx package. Look in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/
[11:36] <dasui> breunig: hehe ok :) thanks for your quick help. the ubuntu-community is great :)
[11:36] <wilo> good morning everyone
[11:36] <Fizzbane> soundray: thanks
[11:36] <wilo> does anyone else know a linux file sharing application that isn't liewire or frostfire?
[11:37] <dasui> bruenig: hehe ok :) thanks for your quick help. the ubuntu-community is great :)
[11:37] <Berad> I am trying this command and it keeps erroring with: 'Unknown MySql server host'
[11:37] <ikonia> Berad: what command
[11:37] <bruenig> wilo, lot of bittorrent clients
[11:37] <imsttp> Anyone know of a way to upgrade to Gnome 2.18 on Edgy?
[11:37] <Berad> mysqladmin -h root@local-machine-name -u root -p password your-new-password
[11:37] <ikonia> imsttp: there is no ubuntu package
[11:37] <wilo> bruenig: i cant find the song im after on bit torrent
[11:37] <ikonia> Berad: there is no host called local-machine-name
[11:37] <wilo> i need p2p
[11:37] <bruenig> wilo, what is the song
[11:37] <Berad> I know
[11:37] <Berad> I replaced it with my comp name
[11:37] <ikonia> Berad: and the command is mysql - not mysqladmin
[11:37] <Berad> grrr ok
[11:37] <ikonia> Berad: use localhost
[11:37] <iUbuntu> wilo try Frostwire
[11:37] <bruenig> wilo, by the way bittorrent is p2p
[11:37] <Berad> use localhose?
[11:38] <Berad> t*
[11:38] <ikonia> Berad: yes
[11:38] <Berad> not my comp name?
[11:38] <soundray> imsttp: upgrade the distribution to feisty and help testing it. You'll get 2.18 on top ;)
[11:38] <wilo> bruenig: Kamoze Ini - Here Comes The Hotstepper
[11:38] <docvegan> hi anyone know how to color/gamma correct the monitor on ubuntu
[11:38] <ikonia> Berad: mysql by default sets up root for localhost access only
[11:38] <soundray> imsttp: join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic if this is an option for you.
[11:38] <imsttp> soundray: yea I may just do that
[11:38] <daziplqa> hi all, baccccccccccccccck
[11:38] <wilo> bruenig: what bit torrent app do you use?
[11:38] <daziplqa> clear
[11:38] <ikonia> soundray: not if he has to ask its not
[11:38] <daziplqa> again with the NIC problem
[11:39] <Berad> wow... thanks guys
[11:39] <Berad> Now what do I do... haha
[11:39] <daziplqa> it is RLT8139D, how can i install it ??
[11:39] <iUbuntu> IS there any similar for rpmfind.net but for Ubuntu, I need to find a specified lib.
[11:39] <iUbuntu> ?
[11:39] <cables> OK, I've got a weird problem... when the comp's been on for a while, the NetworkManager icon disappears (still taking up space in the notification area, but blank), the quit button and menu items don't work, and neither gnome-terminal or xterm starts. The only way to shutdown is to do sudo shutdown -h now in a vtty. Any ideas?
[11:39] <ikonia> iUbuntu: apt
[11:39] <soundray> ikonia: if he's ready to run bleeding-edge gnome, why not do it in feisty?
[11:40] <bruenig> wilo, I use utorrent under wine
[11:40] <soundray> !apt-file | iUbuntu
[11:40] <ubotu> iUbuntu: apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[11:40] <bruenig> s/under/in/
[11:40] <wilo> bruenig: ok
[11:40] <ikonia> soundray: no no, I agree on that, but the fact that he doesn't know how to run bleeding edge gnome suggess he doesn't
[11:40] <soundray> iUbuntu: I sent you that before ^^
[11:40] <bruenig> wilo, you got that pm right
[11:40] <ikonia> s/doesn't/shouldn't
[11:40] <wilo> bruenig: correct
[11:40] <addams> hello, how can I tell how much RAM ubuntu thinks I have?
[11:40] <ant> gnome-look.org just went down as i was halfway through the gdm themes :|
[11:40] <Mirth> !wine
[11:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:40] <addams> I have 4 gigs of Ram and  believe Ubuntu is only seeing 2.7 gigs
[11:40] <ikonia> addams: ubuntu thinks its got all the ram in your computer
[11:40] <ikonia> addams: I doubt that
[11:41] <ikonia> addams: are you using ubuntu x86_64
[11:41] <daziplqa> hey all
[11:41] <daziplqa> any body help me
[11:41] <addams> ikonia: i'm using x86
[11:41] <cables> !ask | daziplqa
[11:41] <ubotu> daziplqa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:41] <daziplqa> what about my nic ???
[11:41] <ikonia> daziplqa: ask a question then
[11:41] <daziplqa> i want to
[11:41] <ikonia> addams: you know a 32bit os can is limited at 4 gig
[11:41] <soundray> ikonia: well, I'm not forcing anyone. The text I pointed him to will put him off if what you say is true.
[11:41] <cables> ikonia, doesn't x86 work with up to 4 gigs?
[11:41] <addams> cool
[11:41] <ant> addams : type free
[11:41] <daziplqa> define my nic of type : rlt8139d
[11:41] <ikonia> soundray: no no, I agree
[11:41] <wilo> bruenig: i cant download from tat site because i need to register and i cant register cuz the registration is closed till monday apprently
[11:41] <ikonia> cables: it will work
[11:41] <cables> ikonia, he has 4 gigs, but it's only detecting 2.7.
[11:41] <daziplqa> RLT8139D*
[11:42] <bruenig> addams, grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo
[11:42] <ikonia> cables: I doubt its only seeing 2.7
[11:42] <cables> ikonia, that's what I understood from the question...
[11:42] <addams> on winders, i could just view system, and see how much ram it thought i have
[11:42] <eilker> how do u decrease or increase your desktop size ??? help pls, in trouble here
[11:42] <addams> xp doesn't recognize 4 gigs!
[11:42] <bruenig> wilo, usually they allow one or two downloads without registering, sorry
[11:42] <cables> ikonia, yes, but why then would you ask about x86-64?
[11:42] <grout> i did a sudo ndiswrapper -m but i installed a new driver, now when i do it again it says "modprobe config already contains alias directive" how can i remove it so it makes it again for the new driver?
[11:42] <daziplqa> my new nic is a realtek and i want to make it operable
[11:42] <cables> eilker, what do you mean by that?
[11:42] <ant> addams : on linux you can just type free
[11:42] <daziplqa> how can  i ??
[11:42] <ikonia> cables: so that if he's got 4 gigs of ram he could make better use of it
[11:42] <cables> addams, sounds like broken RAM or something.
[11:42] <addams> 3108640
[11:42] <kitche> grout: once you run ndiswrapper -m you don't have to rerun it
[11:42] <eilker> cables: help pls, my desktop is so huge now , i dont know what i did,
[11:42] <ikonia> addams: xp will only see 3 if its x86
[11:43] <variant> I have a usb wifi card here.. when i plug it in i get [  651.056000]  hub 3-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2 in dmesg.. nothing else. anyone know what that means?
[11:43] <cyris> what package do I need to install to get ldapadd ?
[11:43] <ant> i think ubuntu supports 64 gigs of ram no?
[11:43] <catid> do you have any tips for the upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
[11:43] <daziplqa> my nic is of type realtek, how can i get it to work ??
[11:43] <grout> kitche: even after i remove the old driver and install a new one?
[11:43] <docvegan> hi anyone know how to color/gamma correct the monitor on ubuntu
[11:43] <wilo> bruenig: they said if the file was a newer version, never mind, ill ask somoene in I.M to download it
[11:43] <variant> ant: if you have 64bit cpu it supports terabytes of ram
[11:43] <daziplqa> it is a new nic
[11:43] <wilo> thanks anyway
[11:43] <cables> ikonia, I know... but doesn't anything less than or equal to 4 gigs of RAM work in a 32-bit OS+
[11:43] <Flannel> ant: 32bit OSs only support 4GB, if you need more than that, you'll need a 64bit OS
[11:43] <daziplqa> NIC*
[11:43] <eilker> cables: i cant see konversation window all, i see %50 of it
[11:43] <daziplqa> any body help me ?
[11:43] <ikonia> cable depends, eg; XP will only see 3 gig by default
[11:43] <kitche> grout: yes since the module is still ndiswrapper
[11:43] <Berad> sudo apt-get install mysql-admin <-- Is this a correct pack listing?
[11:43] <cables> !realtek | daziplqa
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realtek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <daziplqa> how can i get the dirver
[11:43] <daziplqa> yes ; cables
[11:43] <Flannel> Berad: apt-cache search [package stuff] 
[11:44] <Berad> thanks
[11:44] <cables> !nic | daziplqa
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <cables> damn
[11:44] <addams> 3108640 /1024 = 3.09, looks like I bought an extra gig too much.
[11:44] <daziplqa> what ??
[11:44] <daziplqa> what !nic means ??
[11:44] <soundray> Flannel: can't you load HIMEM.SYS?
[11:44] <ikonia> addams: is that in windows or ubuntu
[11:44] <soundray> scnr ;)
[11:44] <VSpike> !wifi
[11:44] <cables> eilker, Konversation? Are you on Gnome or KDE?
[11:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:44] <junmin> hi, upgraded edgy to feisty .. but Netbeans doesnt work again, when i run it, it's output is "Cannot find java. Please use the --jdkhome switch.", does feisty change the classpath which i had??!
[11:44] <daziplqa> no
[11:44] <daziplqa> it is wired
[11:44] <Mirth> How do I put a Desktop app into the Applications menu?
[11:44] <ultm8> hey folks
[11:44] <Flannel> junmin: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support, thanks.
[11:44] <soundray> junmin: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:44] <ultm8> got a massive question
[11:44] <daziplqa> can you help me
[11:44] <cables> Mirth, right click on menus, Edit Menus
[11:44] <addams> ikonia: it was in ubuntu
[11:45] <bruenig> Mirth, what is a desktop app
[11:45] <ultm8> i added a new user to my server
[11:45] <ikonia> addams: for interests sake - try the x86_64 live cd
[11:45] <eilker> cables: is it matter ? kde here
[11:45] <ultm8> but how can i add a password for that user?
[11:45] <cables> eilker, yes, because I don't know how to use KDE
[11:45] <ant> Flannel : i read here that linux kernel supports 8 cpus and up to 64 gigs of ram
[11:45] <machoopy> Okay, I've got a big problem.  Anybody willing to help.  This may be a bug in the ubuntu packages.
[11:45] <Mirth> you tell me Bruenig :D
[11:45] <junmin> Flannel, soundray, thx
[11:45] <Pegasos989> When my screensaver is fullscreen, it gets slow and doesn't run properly. (I think I experienced similar problem when I first installed ubuntu long ago but it was fixed somehow...) Is it a driver issue? I think I have Ati Radeon 9800 pro or something...
[11:45] <cables> ultm8, "man passwd" should help I think...
[11:45] <ultm8> try #kubuntu Eilker
[11:45] <addams> ikonia: what is weird was that dapper drake, didn't give me a bunch of jazz about x64 noapic stuff
[11:45] <ikonia> addams: is that a possability /
[11:46] <ultm8> n1ce cables
[11:46] <daziplqa> hey guz
[11:46] <ultm8> will have a quick look
[11:46] <addams> but the latest and greatest edgy did
[11:46] <ultm8> :)
[11:46] <ikonia> addams: don't worry about that -
[11:46] <laptop88> hi, can someone help me please?
[11:46] <bruenig> Mirth, just create a .desktop file and put it in /usr/share/applications for the menus
[11:46] <cables> ikonia, can you tell me why x86-64 would help if he doesn't have more than 4 gigs of ram?
[11:46] <bruenig> !someone
[11:46] <ikonia> addams: any chance you can try x86_64 live cd for interest
[11:46] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:46] <eilker> cables: do u know for gnome ? may be same answer ?
[11:46] <daziplqa> opppppppppppppps
[11:46] <ikonia> cables:  depends how the OS handles ram
[11:46] <machoopy> addams: There is problem with the 'at' command in the current package system.  It never executes the commands that it is given.
[11:46] <daziplqa> no one what help me !!
[11:46] <cables> eilker, well the UI is very different
[11:46] <ikonia> cables: I'm not sure how ubuntu does off the top of my head
[11:46] <cables> ikonia, ok, thanks
[11:46] <Progs> hello
[11:46] <addams> I can come back later, I was about to go to a bday party in 15 minutes
[11:47] <bruenig> !howdy | Progs
[11:47] <ubotu> Progs: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:47] <cables> eilker, if you can find a place to change font sizes, that might help
[11:47] <ikonia> cables: eg: windows XP default is to use 3 gig of ram and reserve 1 gig for caching as the OS can't use 4 by default so it only shows 3
[11:47] <addams> I was waiting on my peeps
[11:47] <Progs> Ubuntu Beta may be released today, no ?
[11:47] <daziplqa> i heared that ubuntu <b> was </b> good for its live help, but it seems to be ...!
[11:47] <ikonia> cables: I'm wondering if the 32 bit kernel does something similar
[11:47] <cables> eilker, also your resolution
[11:47] <bruenig> !feisty | Progs
[11:47] <ubotu> Progs: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:47] <addams> Progs, ubuntu has been out for some time, don't need the beta
[11:47] <rj686> i can't view my desktop, i just get the plain ubuntu brown with no icons, i tried reinstalling gdm but it doesn't work
[11:47] <cables> ikonia, hmm... could be.
[11:47] <soundray> daziplqa: maybe you're asking the wrong way
[11:47] <laptop88> i need help with Wubi, please
[11:47] <Pegasos989> When my screensaver is fullscreen, it gets slow and doesn't run properly. (I think I experienced similar problem when I first installed ubuntu long ago but it was fixed somehow...) Is it a driver issue? I think I have Ati Radeon 9800 pro or something...
[11:47] <cables> ikonia, I just assumed all 32-bit OS's could deal with 4 gigs I guess.
[11:47] <bruenig> addams, he is talking about the next release
[11:47] <Flannel> ant: The precompiled kernels maybe.  The kernel has no limit on CPUs and someodd terabytes of RAM
[11:47] <daziplqa> so, could you help ??
[11:47] <machoopy> How come the AT command doesn't work?!
[11:47] <ikonia> cables: he's having problems with windows too so ets try x86_64 just to see if it can see it
[11:48] <Progs> addams: I read Feisty Beta will be released today, and I wantted to test it to report bugs
[11:48] <machoopy> ::(
[11:48] <ikonia> cables: they can deal with it - its how they use it
[11:48] <mirra> whats the simpliest solution for sending single mails to decently large lists??
[11:48] <Flannel> Progs: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty stuff.  You can already test it and report bugs
[11:48] <ikonia> mirra: thats called spam
[11:48] <soundray> daziplqa: you need to say what the problem is. Look at Pegasos989 ^^, that's a good problem description.
[11:48] <markos__> What does "no uri handler for dvd" mean?? I can't play dvds!
[11:48] <laptop88> does anybody know how to create a username/password in Wubi?
[11:48] <ikonia> wubi ?
[11:48] <laptop88> yes
[11:48] <bruenig> !dvd | markos__
[11:48] <ubotu> markos__: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:48] <ikonia> laptop88: whats wubi /
[11:48] <jorgen> :D
[11:49] <mirra> ikonia, its not spam. i have a list of people who want to receive a mail about something. didn't think squirrelmail could handle it
[11:49] <machoopy> The freaking at command does work!?  How come?!
[11:49] <markos__> thanks!
[11:49] <Progs> Flannel: Thank you
[11:49] <Mirth> Bruenig, when I try to drag the Desktop item into the usr/share/application folder, it says I don't have permission
[11:49] <laptop88> it's Ubuntu installer for Windows users
[11:49] <ikonia> mirra: look at something like ezmlm
[11:49] <ant> Flannel : and supposedly (but never tested), able to support more than 4 billion users
[11:49] <busfahrer> Excuse me, I accidentally did mke2fs /dev/sdb1, is there any way to recover the data that was stored there previously?
[11:49] <mirra> ikonia, ok ill check it out..thanks
[11:49] <ikonia> laptop88: ooh right - then why add a user, its an installer, install it
[11:49] <ant> Flannel : thats just amazing
[11:49] <daziplqa> my problem is : i have a new NIC that i want to make it work
[11:49] <daziplqa> it  is of type RLT8139D
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[11:49] <mheath> Huh? Mean to talk to someone else?
[11:50] <ant> !wifi | daziplqa
[11:50] <ubotu> daziplqa: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:50] <daziplqa> mm, i think i illustrate it well, aren't i
[11:50] <daziplqa> no
[11:50] <daziplqa> it is wired
[11:50] <daziplqa> not wireless
[11:50] <laptop88> when i get to this step "choose a username and password"
[11:50] <soundray> busfahrer: that's bad news. What filesystem was on it before?
[11:50] <daziplqa> wirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrred
[11:50] <machoopy> Progs, markos_, Mirth, laptop88, ant, and everyone else:  There is a problem with the 'at' command! This is serious error, as it is a vital command to the Unix operating system!
[11:50] <daziplqa> wireeeeeeeeeed
[11:50] <ant> daziplqa : sorry, misunderstood
[11:50] <daziplqa> wired one
[11:50] <daziplqa> never
[11:50] <soundray> daziplqa: stop, you're spamming
[11:50] <ikonia> daziplqa: any chance you can grow up
[11:50] <daziplqa> mind
[11:50] <daziplqa> ok
[11:50] <daziplqa> ok
[11:50] <busfahrer> soundray: I'm not sure. Either ext3 or reiser3.6
[11:50] <ant> daziplqa :calm down.. there are more than 900 people in here, be patient
[11:51] <Flannel> machoopy: what are you having troubles with?
[11:51] <daziplqa> :-$
[11:51] <daziplqa> :'(
[11:51] <soundray> daziplqa: is that your only network card?
[11:51] <daziplqa> ;)
[11:51] <machoopy> Flannel: The 'at' command will work, but it never executes the commands that it is given.
[11:51] <machoopy> Flannel: this may be a bug
[11:51] <daziplqa> yes, i now using dail-up modem
[11:51] <Flannel> machoopy: file a bug in launchpad (launchpad.net)
[11:51] <soundray> busfahrer: you may be able to rescue plain text data from it, but restoring files is next to impossible.
[11:52] <kitche> machoopy: you sure that the commands aren't executed?
[11:52] <machoopy> Flannel: do you suspect a cause of this? - yes, I'm sure the commands are not executed
[11:52] <soundray> daziplqa: have you got other Ethernet cards?
[11:52] <laptop88> so when i choose the username/password
[11:52] <laptop88> it shows this message "your chosen password must be the same"
[11:52] <busfahrer> soundray: if so, how?
[11:52] <daziplqa> no i haven't
[11:52] <ikonia> laptop88: looks like you typed the password wrong
[11:52] <laptop88> and i checked it more than once
[11:52] <evoxy> where is frozen-bubble located?
[11:53] <Underlin3> is there any codecs for "Totem"??
[11:53] <machoopy> Flannel: it could be because I'm using the new kubuntu, but I wouldn't think it deviates that much from ubuntu's package system.
[11:53] <daziplqa> you can call me "daz" for short
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> evoxy: universe
[11:53] <ikonia> laptop88: that software is still in development - maybe a bug
[11:53] <evoxy> tonyyarusso: no i installed it, i mean how do i execute it?
[11:53] <Flannel> machoopy: Kubuntu and Ubuntu are identical.  You're using feisty?  Then ask in #ubuntu+1, it might very well be a bug, Feisty is alpha/betaish
[11:53] <soundray> busfahrer: make an image of the partition with dd. Then run 'strings imagefile >rescued.txt'
[11:53] <byen> Anyone here install ubuntu on a laptop which has vista preinstalled
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> evoxy: 'frozen-bubble', probably.  If not, 'dpkg -L frozen-bubble | grep bin'
[11:54] <LadyNikon> byen: why?
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> !anyone | byen
[11:54] <ubotu> byen: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:54] <laptop88> i thought so, too
[11:54] <LadyNikon> having issues installing ubuntu?
[11:54] <evoxy> ok thanks
[11:54] <LadyNikon> bleh
[11:54] <machoopy> Flannel: I am using Kubuntu 6.10 - is that buggish?
[11:54] <orionrobots> Evening all.
[11:54] <Nullbyte> Hey guys, is it possible to play m4a files? :)
[11:54] <laptop88> how can i install Ubuntu on my machine without creating partitions?
[11:54] <Mirth> Anyone know what "Slackware" is when reffering to Wine?
[11:54] <Nullbyte> No, machoopy
[11:54] <ant> !kubuntu
[11:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:55] <daziplqa> mm
[11:55] <orionrobots> laptop88 - I don't really think that is an option.
[11:55] <soundray> daziplqa: when you run 'ifconfig' in a terminal, is there a section that starts with eth0 ?
[11:55] <kitche> Mirth: one of the oldest Linux distros
[11:55] <machoopy> laptop88: yes
[11:55] <Mirth> Ooh
[11:55] <daziplqa> no
[11:55] <LadyNikon> byen: ?
[11:55] <daziplqa> just two, one for localloop and other for ppp (this connection )
[11:55] <laptop88> oh okay
[11:55] <soundray> daziplqa: use my nickname when you respond to me. That way, I'll have your reply highlighted.
[11:55] <laptop88> thanks for the help anyway :)
[11:56] <Pegasos989> When my screensaver is fullscreen, it gets slow and doesn't run properly. (I think I experienced similar problem when I first installed ubuntu long ago but it was fixed somehow...) Is it a driver issue? I think I have Ati Radeon 9800 pro or something...
[11:56] <daziplqa> oo
[11:56] <daziplqa> thanx
[11:56] <soundray> daziplqa: when you run 'lspci', is your RTL device listed?
[11:56] <daziplqa> soundray :when i do lsmod
[11:56] <daziplqa> soud : yes but
[11:56] <machoopy> laptop88: to play m4a files you need to install the necessary plugins and do some extra configurations that pull your hair out.  Last time, I got m4a's to work perfectly on amarok. :)
[11:56] <daziplqa> sound :0000:00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Unknown device 1904:8139 (rev 01)
[11:56] <orionrobots> Pegasos989: Which screensaver are you using? Some  can be quite demanding.
[11:56] <soundray> daziplqa: don't paste anything please
[11:57] <Hyarion> hey guys, I've failed at trying to find a solution for this; Ubuntu (both GNOME and KDE) freezes constantly, a couple times a day, and I'm forced to manually reboot, has anyone else had this issue?
[11:57] <daziplqa> where ??
[11:57] <soundray> daziplqa: just answer yes or no
[11:57] <ultm8> cheers cables that hint worked a treat
[11:57] <daziplqa> ok
[11:57] <daziplqa> sound : ok
[11:57] <ultm8> cheers cables that hint worked a treat
[11:57] <orionrobots> !pastebin daziplqa
[11:57] <cables> ultm8, cool
[11:57] <soundray> daziplqa: run 'lspci' and see if you recognize your Ethernet card.
[11:57] <Alonea> Hyarion: hmmm, how old is the computer?
[11:57] <rj686> i can't view my desktop, i just get the plain ubuntu brown with no icons, i tried reinstalling gdm but it doesn't work
[11:57] <Hyarion> Alonea, 3 years
[11:57] <ultm8> :oD yes indeed i can progress further with my project now, ever going deeper into the realms of linux :oS
[11:58] <daziplqa> sound : it sees  it but says : "unknown device"
[11:58] <Pegasos989> orionrobots atunnel but seems to be the same to lesser extent with several others. Also, I can't put resolution over 1024x768 though this monitor should be able to go 1024...
[11:58] <Pegasos989> 1280*
[11:58] <tjl30> I installed a program called automatix
[11:58] <yuesefa> how can i watch FLV on ubuntu?
[11:58] <Alonea> Hyarion: Ok, when I had that problem, it was actually due to the little watch battery inside your computer. Replaced it and it worked just fine after that. It might not be whats wrong, but it never hurts to replace it every now and then.
[11:58] <soundray> daziplqa: that's fine, the important thing is that it's connected. If there was an electrical problem, you wouldn't see it at all.
[11:58] <Hyarion> Alonea, the mouse works, my music continues to play, but the screen is essentially frozen, clock doesn't change, can't even ctrl alt backspace
[11:58] <tjl30> does anyone know how I can remove it
[11:58] <orionrobots> Pegasos989: Are the others all 3d ones?
[11:59] <Hyarion> Alonea, hm okay, is there anyway to know for sure that's what it is? thanks for the tip.
[11:59] <byen> Guys, I need to install Ubuntu on a laptop  preinstalled with Vista. Would installing grub into the mbr create an issue? seeing that the forum has a few threads mentioning inability by users to access vista after grub install
[11:59] <Alonea> Hyarion: ok, if you clock is messing up, then you should definately change the battery
[11:59] <daziplqa> sound : mm, yes i understand, thank you
[11:59] <daziplqa> sound : what next ?
[11:59] <yuesefa> how can i watch FLV on ubuntu?
[11:59] <Hyarion> Alonea, the clock is fine, I was just using that as an example as the desktop freezes and nothing changes on it
[11:59] <orionrobots> Does anyone here know about getting powernow running in Edgy on a Socket 754 Sempron 2800+?
[11:59] <Pegasos989> orionrobots I think so
[11:59] <Bad-Omen> oh geeze.
[12:00] <orionrobots> Pegasos989: what is the performance on 3D games like?
[12:00] <soundray> daziplqa: run 'dmesg' in the terminal and pastebin the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:00] <orionrobots> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <Mirth> Are there Plugins for GAIM in Ubuntu?
[12:00] <daziplqa> !pastebin
[12:00] <daziplqa> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)