| LaserJock | Burgwork: have you seen this "get LTSP into Fedora" project? | 12:19 |
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| cliebow | url? | 12:20 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock: nope, linky? | 12:20 |
| Burgwork | I know RH engineers were interested in LTSP, although Novell rebuffed them | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | I actually only have a mailing list | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | I was trolling through gmane and found it | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | the email says they hope to replace K12LTSP | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.education | 12:21 |
| cliebow | id guess they'd want Eric Harrison on their side.. | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | "Eric Harrison has already did lots of the hacking to get 5.0 working on | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | Fedora, but does not seem to have time to attempt integration of that in | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | Fedora or ask for help from other Fedora contributors. That would be a | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | good place to start if someone wants to help." | 12:22 |
| Burgwork | cool | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | bah, sorry for the flood | 12:22 |
| Burgwork | I saw that mailing list a few days ago, but it was dead | 12:22 |
| cliebow | jim kronebusch is an old ltsp guy.. | 12:22 |
| cliebow | i workeds with him showing him how to do ppc.. | 12:23 |
| cliebow | warren needs no introduction | 12:23 |
| Burgwork | I think RH is minorly concerned about being beaten to the punch in education by Edubuntu | 12:24 |
| cliebow | eric had an imple,entaion in san francisco in Nov but his lappoie crappolad | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | :( | 12:25 |
| cliebow | aat the ltsp meet ogra attended | 12:26 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I was at Mt. View and meet Eric | 12:26 |
| LaserJock | *met | 12:26 |
| bimberi | Novell have released a thin client SUSE recently as well | 12:26 |
| cliebow | good...great people..helped me a lot with ldap | 12:27 |
| bimberi | http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=novell+%22thin+client%22&btnG=Search | 12:27 |
| bimberi | Interesting quote from one article: "Dedicated thin-client hardware is growing at 20 percent year on year compared with commercial desktop growth of two percent." | 12:28 |
| cliebow | and my ltsp implementation is losing out with the ibooks in Maine schools.. | 12:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thin client usage is a cycle, atm its getting trendy again | 12:29 |
| cliebow | so instead of tending one server..im ripping apart individual machines again.. | 12:31 |
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| cliebow | if i never see another ibook.... | 12:33 |
| MrWizard14 | what's wrong with it? | 12:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | did anyone look at that ltsp setup that was emailed to the list by that spanish(?) bloke? i'm wondering if it was interesting | 12:34 |
| MrWizard14 | mine just almost died | 12:34 |
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| cliebow | ibook?? | 12:36 |
| cliebow | hey DAvid | 12:37 |
| dtrask | hey chuck! | 12:38 |
| dtrask | I have too many windows open....which room is this? Edubuntu? | 12:38 |
| dtrask | LOL | 12:38 |
| cliebow | yuou got it\! what's neew? | 12:40 |
| dtrask | Chuck...I had a great moment today...Firefox has been giving me fits lately...slow to load...etc.....so I updated to firefox 2.03 from source today....AND got Flash 9 with sound working | 12:40 |
| dtrask | took several symlinks, but it works beautifully now ;-) | 12:40 |
| cliebow | cool! ive seen some crashes..but not on my server machine | 12:40 |
| cliebow | you usung ubuntu for server?? | 12:41 |
| dtrask | for some reason I did a repository update to 1.5.10 and it was taking over a minute to load...of course the kids would click repeatedly trying to get it going | 12:41 |
| cliebow | sure | 12:41 |
| dtrask | not this one....this one was FC 5 | 12:41 |
| dtrask | K12LTSP | 12:42 |
| cliebow | right.. | 12:42 |
| cliebow | i have two schools in ubnut..no three | 12:42 |
| cliebow | heh | 12:42 |
| dtrask | I have an Edubuntu server up and running....I'm thinking about migrating totally during April vacation | 12:42 |
| cliebow | but only one in ltsp | 12:42 |
| dtrask | Are you running Edubuntu LTSP or simply LTSP the standard way on top of it? | 12:43 |
| cliebow | i havnt proven the localdev side iin ubuntu yet..i did build a ppc chroot for feisty yesterday | 12:43 |
| cliebow | i have only 4.2 in ubuntu in prodication | 12:43 |
| cliebow | produc tion | 12:43 |
| cliebow | so my lappie will boot either pc or ppc clients | 12:44 |
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| cliebow | havnt yety got it to differentiate between ppc clients and i386 as far as root-path though | 12:44 |
| cliebow | filename is pretty easy.. | 12:45 |
| cliebow | load times are still relatively sdlow..but yesterdays update should make sound work out of the box | 12:45 |
| dtrask | hang on | 12:47 |
| dtrask | I actually got Feisty running on an iBook (one of the MLTI ones....don't tell on me)....finally after much head banging I got the wireless working | 12:52 |
| cliebow | i find wireless fluky on ibooks...seems totake a reboot to recognize new parameters | 12:53 |
| dtrask | amen....sucks | 12:53 |
| cliebow | we had one g4 wouldnt take a rid image..im runing feisty on it to build chroot..so i cana put it on my i386 lappie | 12:54 |
| dtrask | they're broadcom....I had to do some homework and find the new firmware | 12:54 |
| cliebow | yeah fwcutter | 12:54 |
| dtrask | yeah....but I think I used the directions and files from cafuego | 12:55 |
| dtrask | works.. | 12:55 |
| dtrask | that's what matters | 12:55 |
| cliebow | you have your ound one mlti iboks? buy them out..?video is crapping out fight and left | 12:55 |
| dtrask | we sold them to the kids | 12:56 |
| cliebow | i did face transpalnts on three today.. | 12:56 |
| dtrask | they bought them all | 12:56 |
| dtrask | we had a waiting list | 12:56 |
| cliebow | weh ave cardts and carts of them..back to fixing indiviuaal machines again | 12:56 |
| dtrask | I didn't want to deal with them....we have plenty of machines here in school so having a cart would have been more hassle than help | 12:56 |
| cliebow | imlosing ground on the ltsp side..wireless is what they want | 12:57 |
| cliebow | they Never bought any proper terminals..and the donated ones are biting the dust one by one | 12:58 |
| dtrask | I think wireless LTSP is coming soon...even if we have to boot the machine some other method (locally).... | 12:58 |
| cliebow | i used it years ago..before 80211g..it was pokey | 12:58 |
| dtrask | we bought terminals....and now the $120 ones everyone is talking about may be my next purchase | 12:58 |
| dtrask | yeah...I need to revist with 802.11g...or even "n" once it comes out as a standard | 12:59 |
| cliebow | did you hack the provided mac minis so you can actually do something with em?..even thnough you are not supposed to? | 12:59 |
| dtrask | supposedly the current Airport Express cards could become "n" with a simple FW upgrade | 12:59 |
| dtrask | nah....don't need it for anything....heck...don't even use my XServe | 01:00 |
| dtrask | seriously....I haven't even turned it on this year | 01:00 |
| dtrask | I'm a bit top heavy on servers ;-) | 01:01 |
| cliebow | just ticks me off you cant have any admin rights on em..one day ill tackle one.. | 01:01 |
| cliebow | you know how i feel about proprietary stuff.. | 01:01 |
| cliebow | getting a ite to eat.. | 01:02 |
| cliebow | s/ite/bite | 01:02 |
| dtrask | I do....I just sometimes don't bother...that's all | 01:02 |
| dtrask | I hardly even use the thing....I just use an eMac for pushing tasks out. I have to admit that I like the ability to push Unix commands via ARD thought | 01:03 |
| dtrask | though | 01:03 |
| dtrask | makes life much easier | 01:03 |
| dtrask | wrote a script to fire up NWEA all at once | 01:03 |
| dtrask | Ogra...you awake? | 01:04 |
| dtrask | gtg....time to leave this place and head home....catch ya'll alter | 01:09 |
| dtrask | later | 01:09 |
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| nkayhan | Hi, I'm trying to set up a few ubuntu boxes to connect to a windows server/network in a school, it there a good resource to find this? | 03:47 |
| Burgundavia | nkayhan: connect in what manner | 03:48 |
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| Burgundavia | ? | 03:48 |
| rollerce | good evening everyone | 03:48 |
| Burgundavia | hello rollerce | 03:48 |
| nkayhan | Burgundavia: in the manner that ubuntu would boot to the login screen, and then I could login to the windows domain form there, and see NAS and NAP | 03:49 |
| Burgundavia | right | 03:49 |
| rollerce | So I downloaded edubuntu today, and I am a complete linux dunce (as in this is the first time I've ever done anything with linux), and I was wondering if I could get some help locating and downloading drivers for my devices | 03:49 |
| Burgundavia | rollerce: linux drivers are built into Edubuntu | 03:49 |
| Burgundavia | nkayhan: for auth, you need samba 3.0.24 or later | 03:50 |
| rollerce | not apparently for my graphics card of wireless card | 03:50 |
| Burgundavia | against AD, I assume? | 03:50 |
| rollerce | or^ | 03:50 |
| Burgundavia | rollerce: which graphics card? | 03:50 |
| nkayhan | Burgundavia: on the windows server? | 03:50 |
| Burgundavia | nkayhan: no, on the client | 03:50 |
| Burgundavia | and which wireless card? | 03:50 |
| nkayhan | Burgundavia: Good, is there a guide somewhere? | 03:50 |
| rollerce | hang on a sec....*rummage8 | 03:51 |
| Burgundavia | http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_Configure_Ubuntu_for_Active_Directory_Authentication | 03:51 |
| Burgundavia | yes, Novell has one :)_ | 03:51 |
| nkayhan | Burgundavia: YES, thank you, I might be able to convert a classroom to a ubuntu, instead of win98 | 03:51 |
| Burgundavia | nkayhan: it is not easy and will take a bunch of hacking | 03:52 |
| Burgundavia | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryHowto | 03:52 |
| Burgundavia | try also that | 03:52 |
| nkayhan | Burgundavia: By "Hacking" do you mean command line stuff and work arounds, or illegal stuff? | 03:52 |
| Burgundavia | nkayhan: command line stuff | 03:53 |
| Burgundavia | illegal stuff is known as "cracking" | 03:53 |
| rollerce | Dell Wireless 1390 minicard | 03:53 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: I have that same card! | 03:54 |
| rollerce | and ATI mobility radeon x1300 | 03:54 |
| rollerce | I have an Inspiron 6400 laptop if that helps | 03:54 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: which version of ubuntu are you running? | 03:54 |
| rollerce | latest of edubuntu | 03:54 |
| rollerce | 6.10, I believe? | 03:54 |
| Burgundavia | for the ati card, you need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28binary%29 | 03:55 |
| Burgundavia | can you open a terminal and type the following: lspci | grep Broadcom | 03:55 |
| rollerce | open up a what and do who? | 03:55 |
| rollerce | o.o' | 03:55 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: Now, ubuntu doesn't make any hardware really, so your card is actually made by Broadcom | 03:55 |
| rollerce | ok.. | 03:56 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: Now, *DELL doesn't make any hardware really, so your card is actually made by Broadcom | 03:56 |
| nkayhan | sorry, I did a super typo | 03:56 |
| Burgundavia | that lists all teh hardware connected to the pci bus and then searches it for the string called Broadcom | 03:56 |
| rollerce | ok, how do I open a terminal first off | 03:56 |
| rollerce | remember, total linux dunce here. | 03:56 |
| rollerce | baby steps for me | 03:56 |
| Burgundavia | applications > accessories > terminal | 03:57 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: start menu accesorys | 03:57 |
| rollerce | and what is the command? | 03:57 |
| Burgundavia | lspci | grep Broadcom | 03:58 |
| rollerce | is that an l or a | *lol* | 03:58 |
| Burgundavia | the second is a |, not an L | 03:58 |
| Burgundavia | l vs | | 03:58 |
| rollerce | the first is an L though? | 03:58 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 03:58 |
| Burgundavia | lowercase | 03:58 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: That card (wireless) was automatic for me, are you sure you just don't need a wireless manager? | 03:58 |
| Burgundavia | sorry got to go | 03:58 |
| rollerce | nothing happens when I tyoe that | 03:59 |
| rollerce | gah, nuu don't leave!!! *pout* | 03:59 |
| nkayhan | Butgundavia: c ya thanks for help | 03:59 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: copy and paste | 03:59 |
| rollerce | I can't | 04:00 |
| rollerce | this is a different computer than the one I have edubuntu on | 04:00 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: you'll need to right click and not ctl v | 04:00 |
| nkayhan | Oh | 04:00 |
| rollerce | :-p | 04:00 |
| nkayhan | sorry | 04:00 |
| nkayhan | by nothing does it say bash? | 04:00 |
| rollerce | but yah, the lspci | grep broadcom doesn't do anything | 04:00 |
| rollerce | I don't even get a bsh | 04:00 |
| nkayhan | just black? | 04:01 |
| rollerce | not even black, just retypes the "rollerce@edubuntu:~$" | 04:01 |
| nkayhan | oh good, that mean's that's not your card, try just lspci | 04:02 |
| rollerce | I have an unknown broadcom device | 04:03 |
| nkayhan | no numbers after broadcom? | 04:03 |
| rollerce | 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown Device 4311 (rev01) | 04:04 |
| rollerce | and | 04:04 |
| nkayhan | try joining #ubuntu btw, there's a lot more people there to help you | 04:04 |
| rollerce | 01:00.0 VGA comptable controller: ATI Technologirs Inc Unknown Device 7149 | 04:04 |
| nkayhan | OK, so yes, you definatly need drivers | 04:05 |
| rollerce | yup | 04:05 |
| rollerce | that's what i figured | 04:05 |
| nkayhan | give me a second ok? | 04:05 |
| rollerce | okii | 04:06 |
| nkayhan | Broadcom 4311 is your chip | 04:08 |
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| Burgundavia | hmm, no rollerce | 04:12 |
| nkayhan | Burgundavia: Shame I haad just found the solution to his problem | 04:13 |
| Burgundavia | broacom needs the firmware | 04:13 |
| Burgundavia | pretty easy to do | 04:13 |
| nkayhan | well, he needed the driver too, it was an unknow card | 04:13 |
| nixternal | 4311 uses ndiswrapper still | 04:14 |
| nixternal | fwcutter is garbage with it | 04:14 |
| Burgundavia | does it | 04:14 |
| Burgundavia | ahh | 04:14 |
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| Burgundavia | rollerce: welcome back | 04:14 |
| rollerce | i;m back now? | 04:15 |
| rollerce | for real? | 04:15 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 04:15 |
| rollerce | ^.^ | 04:15 |
| Burgundavia | btw, where in BC are you? | 04:15 |
| rollerce | had some connection issues for a minuye | 04:15 |
| rollerce | i;m in burnaby | 04:15 |
| Burgundavia | ahh | 04:15 |
| nixternal | Burgundavia: it is the same card I have | 04:15 |
| Burgundavia | there is a pretty active Linux Users Group (LUG) in Vancouver | 04:15 |
| Burgundavia | nixternal: ah | 04:15 |
| nixternal | fwcutter will not work with it, and bcm43xx.berlios.de confirms that as well | 04:15 |
| rollerce | i thought you had to leave burgun | 04:15 |
| Burgundavia | I am back | 04:15 |
| nkayhan | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29#head-f81347abfd1a9542276e210460e6ecd5fb49fd1a | 04:15 |
| nixternal | after I installed Feisty though, it says my card is a Dell card | 04:15 |
| nixternal | http://wiki.waningsun.net/index.php?title=Dell_E1405_%26_Linux_HOWTO | 04:16 |
| nixternal | ^^ that is the best howto for the 4311 | 04:16 |
| nixternal | guaranteed to work or your money back | 04:16 |
| nixternal | :) | 04:16 |
| nkayhan | nixternal: my bad | 04:16 |
| nixternal | hrm, it seems there is some lovin' on the wiki for the 4311, I don't remember that | 04:16 |
| nixternal | I will have to check that out | 04:16 |
| nixternal | actually nkayhan your link is pretty much the same, just w/o all of the glitter :) | 04:17 |
| rollerce | now to see if I can actually do it | 04:17 |
| nixternal | I like the brief summary | 04:17 |
| rollerce | *lol* | 04:17 |
| nixternal | rollerce: eth1 is probably the port for your wifi card, if you get wlan0, consider yourself lucky, even though that doesn't matter a lick | 04:18 |
| nkayhan | nixternal: I can use google, you actually did this, so I defer to you | 04:18 |
| nixternal | hehe, Google has answered all but one of my questions | 04:19 |
| nixternal | that is pretty much how it is anyways | 04:19 |
| rollerce | how do I check that? | 04:19 |
| nixternal | iwconfig | 04:19 |
| nixternal | does it say eth1 or wlanX | 04:19 |
| nkayhan | nixternal: is wifi radar a good manager? | 04:19 |
| nixternal | I haven't messed with it much, I am a KNetworkManager freak | 04:20 |
| rollerce | ok... | 04:20 |
| rollerce | *confizz* | 04:20 |
| nixternal | Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01) | 04:20 |
| rollerce | eth 1 says everything is the wireless card | 04:20 |
| nixternal | that is what my card says now. and I have a compaq | 04:20 |
| nkayhan | nixternal: I'm getting tired of typing in ssid | 04:20 |
| nixternal | nkayhan: I don't have to type it in at all with KNetworkManager,and I am sure NetworkManager is the same | 04:21 |
| rollerce | but I can't select it in the network connections thing | 04:21 |
| rollerce | I probably have to do the driver thing. | 04:21 |
| nkayhan | nixternal: I'm using KNetworkManager, but it doesn't list ssids in your area does it? | 04:21 |
| nixternal | it does for me | 04:21 |
| nkayhan | ??? | 04:22 |
| nixternal | actually my area is dead right now, usually I get about 5 of them | 04:22 |
| rollerce | afkih for a minute while I mess with this | 04:22 |
| nixternal | if I am upstairs I can get about 10 | 04:22 |
| nkayhan | Like does it list on the right click of the icon? | 04:22 |
| nixternal | yup | 04:23 |
| nkayhan | I KNOW there's like 3 in my area, but I need to type in the ssid to login to one of them | 04:23 |
| nixternal | and if they are secured, it even shows a neat little lock | 04:23 |
| nixternal | well, if they are hidden, you might have to enter the info for the first go round, and then it should remember it from that point on | 04:24 |
| nkayhan | nixternal: yea, it does that, but their NOT hidden (their unsecured neighbor's actually) | 04:25 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 04:25 |
| nkayhan | I had to log into windows to see the essid | 04:25 |
| nkayhan | then type it in | 04:25 |
| nixternal | I see my neighbors when I am upstairs, usually I see it now, but I am not | 04:25 |
| nixternal | bbiab. the dog is calling me :) | 04:25 |
| rollerce | ack | 04:27 |
| rollerce | how do I make it so I have root access? | 04:27 |
| bimberi | !sudo | 04:28 |
| ubotu | sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. | 04:28 |
| rollerce | but I need to change the permissions on a file so it's not read-only... | 04:28 |
| bimberi | rollerce: what's the file? | 04:28 |
| rollerce | the blacklist file in /etc/modprobe.d | 04:29 |
| bimberi | leave the permissions alone, just edit it with sudo at the start of the command | 04:29 |
| rollerce | i can't do that from the editor in ubuntu | 04:30 |
| bimberi | no, you need to start the editor itself as superuser | 04:30 |
| rollerce | how | 04:30 |
| bimberi | open a terminal, then 'gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist' | 04:31 |
| rollerce | this is my first time using linux so you'l have to be pretty specific | 04:31 |
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| bimberi | terminal is at Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal | 04:31 |
| nkayhan | brb | 04:32 |
| bimberi | rollerce: welcome aboard btw :) | 04:32 |
| rollerce | thx | 04:32 |
| rollerce | edubuntu is pretty ^.^ | 04:32 |
| bimberi | too right :) | 04:33 |
| rollerce | aaaand i;m stuck now | 04:35 |
| rollerce | so i'm at "http://wiki.waningsun.net/index.php?title=Dell_E1405_%26_Linux_HOWTO" | 04:35 |
| rollerce | at download and compile ndiswrapper....and I'm getting errors. | 04:36 |
| bimberi | many lines of errors? | 04:36 |
| rollerce | when I do "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r' | 04:37 |
| rollerce | I get "e: couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r | 04:37 |
| bimberi | ahh, not ' but ` (backticks, in both cases) | 04:38 |
| rollerce | ahhh | 04:38 |
| rollerce | now it's | 04:38 |
| rollerce | I get "e: couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386 | 04:39 |
| rollerce | >.< | 04:39 |
| bimberi | hmm | 04:39 |
| rollerce | does this step require internet access? | 04:40 |
| bimberi | that would help, but I'm fairly sure the headers are on the CD as well | 04:40 |
| rollerce | which means I should put the cd in the drive *lol* | 04:41 |
| rollerce | if I had internet I wouldn't be having to do all this :-P | 04:41 |
| bimberi | :/ | 04:42 |
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| rollerce | am I here? | 04:46 |
| bimberi | rollerce: wb :) | 04:46 |
| rollerce | well, after putting in the cd, I get the same error | 04:46 |
| bimberi | is the cd still in? | 04:47 |
| rollerce | yup | 04:47 |
| bimberi | ok, System -> Administratoin -> Synaptic Package Manager | 04:47 |
| rollerce | okii, done | 04:48 |
| bimberi | once that's open select "Add CDROM" from the Edit menu | 04:48 |
| rollerce | cd spun up | 04:48 |
| rollerce | progress bar... | 04:48 |
| rollerce | asked me if I want to add another cdrom, I assume no | 04:49 |
| rollerce | now what? | 04:49 |
| bimberi | ok, close synaptic | 04:49 |
| bimberi | retry the apt-get | 04:49 |
| rollerce | ok | 04:49 |
| rollerce | still no good | 04:49 |
| bimberi | :/ | 04:49 |
| bimberi | hmmm | 04:50 |
| bimberi | this is a fresh install? | 04:50 |
| rollerce | yup | 04:50 |
| rollerce | as of about 2 hours ago | 04:50 |
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| nkayhan | yea, wirelesscard setup! | 04:51 |
| rollerce | :-p | 04:51 |
| bimberi | hm | 04:51 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: how're you doing? | 04:51 |
| rollerce | totally stuck about a paragraph into the walkthrough | 04:52 |
| rollerce | *lol* | 04:52 |
| bimberi | ok, go to Places -> Computer | 04:52 |
| rollerce | ok | 04:52 |
| nkayhan | rollerce: man I'm sorry, linux gets way better after initial setup | 04:53 |
| bimberi | open up the cd and navigate to pool/mail/l | 04:53 |
| rollerce | there is no pool directory | 04:53 |
| bimberi | hm, which cd is this? | 04:53 |
| rollerce | wait | 04:53 |
| rollerce | nm | 04:53 |
| rollerce | was in the wrong place | 04:53 |
| rollerce | ok, i;m in the L directory | 04:54 |
| bimberi | now linux-kernel-headers and double-click on the file in there (should be only one) | 04:54 |
| bimberi | hopefully it will be installable | 04:55 |
| rollerce | i have linux-atm, linux-meta, linux-ntfs, linux-source-2.6.17, and linux-wlan-ng | 04:55 |
| rollerce | no linux-kernel-headers | 04:56 |
| bimberi | ah, try linux-source... | 04:56 |
| rollerce | gazillion files in there. | 04:57 |
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| rollerce | ok, not a gazillion, but a heck of alot. | 04:58 |
| bimberi | :) | 04:58 |
| bimberi | look for linux-headers... | 04:58 |
| rollerce | anything specific I hould look for? | 04:58 |
| bimberi | (might be a few) | 04:59 |
| rollerce | linux-image and linux-libc | 05:00 |
| bimberi | was this a Live CD? or Install CD? | 05:01 |
| rollerce | install cd | 05:01 |
| bimberi | *is | 05:01 |
| bimberi | k | 05:01 |
| rollerce | downloaded it right off of the site today | 05:01 |
| rollerce | i'm 90% certain at least it's an install cd. | 05:02 |
| rollerce | how do I tell | 05:02 |
| bimberi | when you installed, was it a text interface or a gui? | 05:04 |
| rollerce | gui | 05:04 |
| bimberi | hm, install cd isn't gui as far as i recall | 05:04 |
| bimberi | anyway, plan b. do you have a way of transferring files to the PC? | 05:05 |
| bimberi | usb key? | 05:05 |
| rollerce | http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/edubuntu/edgy/edubuntu-6.10-install-i386.iso | 05:06 |
| rollerce | that's the one i downloaded | 05:06 |
| rollerce | and yah, I have a us key | 05:06 |
| rollerce | usb^ | 05:06 |
| bimberi | righto | 05:06 |
| bimberi | what is the output of 'uname -r' (in the terminal) | 05:06 |
| bimberi | ? | 05:06 |
| rollerce | 2.6.17-10-386 | 05:07 |
| bimberi | ok, i'll get some links for you | 05:09 |
| rollerce | oki | 05:09 |
| rollerce | thanks for all the help | 05:09 |
| bimberi | np, once you have network things get much easer :) | 05:11 |
| bimberi | ok | 05:11 |
| rollerce | yah | 05:11 |
| bimberi | two files to download and transfer to the pc: | 05:11 |
| bimberi | http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.17/linux-headers-2.6.17-10_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb | 05:11 |
| bimberi | http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.17/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb | 05:11 |
| rollerce | oki downloading | 05:12 |
| rollerce | i assume put them on the key | 05:12 |
| rollerce | and put them on the ubuntu desktop? | 05:13 |
| bimberi | yep, when you plug it into the PC, Edubuntu should open a window and you can double-click on them to install | 05:13 |
| bimberi | install the one *without* 386 in the name first | 05:13 |
| rollerce | -.- | 05:14 |
| rollerce | too late... | 05:14 |
| rollerce | oh | 05:14 |
| rollerce | nm | 05:14 |
| rollerce | oki., theyre installed | 05:15 |
| rollerce | try the command again>? | 05:16 |
| bimberi | great, that puts you past that step on that page :) | 05:16 |
| rollerce | huh? | 05:16 |
| rollerce | o.o' | 05:16 |
| rollerce | so now what step do I go to? | 05:16 |
| rollerce | o.o' | 05:16 |
| bimberi | "tar -xzvf ndiswrapper-1.27.tar.gz" ?? | 05:16 |
| rollerce | cannot open: no such file or directory | 05:17 |
| rollerce | this guy seems to assume I've got a bunch of thins that I don't... | 05:18 |
| bimberi | yes, you'll need to download and transfer that file as well | 05:18 |
| rollerce | ah | 05:18 |
| bimberi | at the same time, does this work? 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' ? | 05:19 |
| bimberi | that will install things necessary to do the commands beginning with 'make' further on on that page | 05:20 |
| rollerce | eep | 05:20 |
| rollerce | bunch of linuxese and asks me if I wanna continue | 05:20 |
| bimberi | lol | 05:21 |
| rollerce | ok, the walkthrough calls for 1.27 but they're at 1.38 which chould I use? | 05:21 |
| bimberi | i would hope a later version would do everything an earlier version could | 05:22 |
| rollerce | i'll try 1.38 then | 05:22 |
| rollerce | butdownload 1.27 JIC | 05:23 |
| bimberi | :) | 05:23 |
| rollerce | so where should I put the file this time? | 05:23 |
| rollerce | i;m sorry I;m such a noob | 05:24 |
| bimberi | drag it to your home folder (which is hopefully at the top of the list of Places on the left of the file manager) | 05:24 |
| rollerce | drug | 05:25 |
| bimberi | ha | 05:25 |
| bimberi | now try that tar... command (with 1.38 instead of 1.27) | 05:25 |
| rollerce | egads | 05:25 |
| rollerce | bunch of stuff then back to command prompt | 05:25 |
| bimberi | cool, now the cd (again with the new version) | 05:26 |
| rollerce | yup, working so far | 05:26 |
| bimberi | ok, keep going | 05:26 |
| rollerce | ok.he skipped over the part where I get the .inf out of the .exe... | 05:28 |
| bimberi | ah, i've not done that myself, hopefully there are instructions about | 05:29 |
| rollerce | i figured it out. | 05:29 |
| rollerce | mde a wild gues that the .exe was a self extracting compressed file. | 05:29 |
| rollerce | which it was, then grabbed the file I needed | 05:30 |
| bimberi | cool | 05:30 |
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| rollerce | what does he mean by "Then I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules." | 05:37 |
| rollerce | does he mean move the ndiswrapper directory into tere? | 05:37 |
| bimberi | no | 05:37 |
| bimberi | 'gksu gedit /etc/modules' | 05:38 |
| bimberi | and add "ndiswrapper" on a new line | 05:38 |
| bimberi | that page really does assume a lot | 05:39 |
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| rollerce | >.< | 05:42 |
| rollerce | now I can't get it to connect to my wireless | 05:42 |
| rollerce | you there? | 05:46 |
| bimberi | yeah, what did you try? | 05:46 |
| rollerce | well, when I click on the little thing in the upper right, all I get is "lo" | 05:47 |
| rollerce | and the iwlist eth0 scan doesn't show my network but the neighbour's instead. | 05:48 |
| bimberi | try configuring via System -> Administration -> Networking | 05:49 |
| rollerce | oh wait... | 05:49 |
| rollerce | I think i;m dumb... | 05:49 |
| rollerce | well, I know I;m dumb...as far as linux goes | 05:50 |
| bimberi | perhaps, but you seem patient and willing to learn - perfect customer :) | 05:50 |
| rollerce | well, i've activated the ethernet card...but it still doesn't show in connection properties | 05:52 |
| rollerce | do I need some sort of wireless manager? | 05:52 |
| bimberi | i would have thought you had enough to get connected now. | 05:54 |
| rollerce | me too | 05:55 |
| bimberi | perhaps try temporarily removing any security from your access point to see if that helps | 05:55 |
| rollerce | no internet though | 05:55 |
| bimberi | or manually typing in the SSID ... | 05:55 |
| rollerce | yah...I just tried that | 05:56 |
| rollerce | it shows, but says disconnected | 05:56 |
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| rollerce | no luck | 06:13 |
| rollerce | disable encryption | 06:13 |
| rollerce | and it doesn't see my network | 06:13 |
| bimberi | hm, what device did you say the wireless is on? eth0? | 06:15 |
| rollerce | I can't even get into a utility to scan my networks. | 06:15 |
| rollerce | eth 1 | 06:15 |
| bimberi | i'm looking at this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29 | 06:16 |
| bimberi | it includes this: "Critical Notice: Check the file /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper file and make sure that the ndiswrapper alias is wlan0 an not something else such as eth1. | 06:16 |
| rollerce | >.< | 06:16 |
| rollerce | how do I fix that? | 06:16 |
| bimberi | gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper | 06:16 |
| bimberi | make the change and reboot the pc | 06:17 |
| rollerce | it says alias wlan0 ndiswrapper.... | 06:18 |
| bimberi | heh | 06:19 |
| rollerce | but.... | 06:19 |
| rollerce | it doesn't work.. | 06:21 |
| rollerce | how can I force it to? | 06:21 |
| bimberi | what's the output of 'cat /etc/iftab'? | 06:21 |
| bimberi | just the first bits (eg. eth0, wlan0) ? | 06:22 |
| rollerce | uhm... | 06:22 |
| rollerce | cat: /etc/iftab/: not a directory | 06:24 |
| bimberi | no trailing / | 06:24 |
| bimberi | just /etc/iftab | 06:24 |
| rollerce | eth0 mac (blahblahblah) | 06:25 |
| rollerce | eth1 mac (blahblahblah) | 06:25 |
| bimberi | ok, 'gksu gedit /etc/iftab', comment out the eth1 line (with a # at the start) and reboot | 06:26 |
| rollerce | rebooting | 06:28 |
| bimberi | once it's back up, make sure ndiswrapper has loaded by doing 'lsmod | grep ndiswrapper' in a terminal. If there is no output, the module hasn't loaded | 06:30 |
| rollerce | it loaded | 06:32 |
| bimberi | cool | 06:32 |
| bimberi | hopefully 'iwconfig' is listing network(s) against wlan0 now | 06:33 |
| bimberi | (or 'iwlist scan') | 06:34 |
| rollerce | hmm | 06:34 |
| rollerce | still won't connect | 06:34 |
| bimberi | :( | 06:35 |
| bimberi | unfortunately I'm out of ideas at this point | 06:36 |
| rollerce | gah | 06:36 |
| rollerce | it's assigned to the wrong mac address. | 06:36 |
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| rollerce | it's assigned to the wrong mac address. | 06:42 |
| rollerce | i'm gonna try something... | 06:42 |
| bimberi | I have to go unfortunately, you can try editing /etc/iftab to make sure it has the correct mac addresses for the interfaces | 06:44 |
| rollerce | that's what i'm trying | 06:45 |
| bimberi | you could try asking in #ubuntu too (lots of pehple in there) | 06:45 |
| bimberi | cool | 06:45 |
| bimberi | bye for now, good luck | 06:45 |
| rollerce | they basically ignored me; | 06:45 |
| bimberi | yes, it can depend on who's active when you ask | 06:46 |
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| narutosan | may I get some information on Teacher Grading System which is there on the GSoc ubuntu ideas list | 07:34 |
| LaserJock | what kind of information? | 07:34 |
| narutosan | what languages should I use to build? | 07:35 |
| narutosan | the only thing mentioned is python GTK | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | well, I don't think there is an absolute requirement | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | but Edubuntu is a Gnome desktop | 07:37 |
| LaserJock | and python is a nice easy language and a favorite of a lot of Ubuntu devs | 07:37 |
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| narutosan | I wanted to add some features | 07:38 |
| narutosan | say it should have an online assignment submission system too | 07:38 |
| narutosan | where in the students are allowed to submit assignments and are evaluated and are graded | 07:39 |
| narutosan | it should come as a whole package | 07:39 |
| LaserJock | sounds interesting | 07:40 |
| narutosan | it should not only be a system where only theoretical oriented assignments are submitted but code based assignments should also be accepted | 07:40 |
| narutosan | some of the assignments like code based should be evaluated automatically | 07:41 |
| narutosan | hence forth making the application not restricted to the schools but also to universities to be able to use the module | 07:42 |
| narutosan | c/application/module | 07:42 |
| narutosan | there are some codes which universities to work with like mine is doing but it has flaws as it is not stable | 07:43 |
| narutosan | that is because the module comes coded in perl but comes as a add-on | 07:44 |
| narutosan | hence forth when this is implemented within the system it can be more stable and less succeptible to attcks | 07:45 |
| narutosan | LaserJock: can you comment on this | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | well, sounds cool | 07:48 |
| narutosan | may I get some help please?? | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | what kind of help are you looking for? | 07:49 |
| narutosan | how do you say I need to proceed in what manner | 07:49 |
| narutosan | what will be the front end and what the back end?? | 07:49 |
| narutosan | which one do you prefer | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 07:50 |
| narutosan | I want to module to be cross-platform based one | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | I think a GTK frontend would be good | 07:50 |
| narutosan | ok | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | and depending on time a webfrontend might be cool | 07:51 |
| narutosan | yes I was thinking about the same thing | 07:51 |
| narutosan | but about the installation!! | 07:51 |
| narutosan | for webfrontend the background has to be placed in /var/www/ ---some systems ; some others have something like /srv/www | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | well, that should all be configurable | 07:53 |
| narutosan | ok | 07:54 |
| narutosan | may I ask you a question? | 07:54 |
| narutosan | are you one among the mentors?? | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | hopefully | 07:54 |
| narutosan | oh great!!;0 | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | I'm waiting for my application to be approved | 07:55 |
| narutosan | ;0 | 07:55 |
| narutosan | ok | 07:55 |
| narutosan | i wish luck | 07:55 |
| narutosan | anyways does the application sound exciting | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | I think so | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | we already have a program called schooltool | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | you might want to check that out | 07:56 |
| narutosan | ok | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | and see where you could improve on it | 07:56 |
| narutosan | ok | 07:56 |
| narutosan | may I take some time-out and revert back to you ? | 07:58 |
| LaserJock | that's fine | 07:59 |
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| narutosan | LaserJock: is the teachers-gradebook an attachment to the schooltool | 08:08 |
| LaserJock | I'm not really sure | 08:08 |
| LaserJock | it might be it was intended as a replacement | 08:09 |
| Lameiro | narutosan, no. at least the SoC page suggests PyGTK | 08:09 |
| narutosan | that is what | 08:10 |
| Lameiro | i mean, if the application is gonna be GTK-based, it cannot be part of schooltool. but its core can... | 08:11 |
| narutosan | ok | 08:12 |
| narutosan | I want to develop it as a separate module | 08:12 |
| narutosan | I don't want to make it school specific | 08:13 |
| Burgundavia | umm? | 08:13 |
| Burgundavia | is a gradebook not school specific by definition? | 08:13 |
| narutosan | there are different ways of grading | 08:13 |
| narutosan | grading --- done in the school and grading done for various competitions are different right | 08:14 |
| Burgundavia | right | 08:14 |
| narutosan | there are different areas that are essential to be school specific | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | you just want to make sure is usable and realistic | 08:16 |
| narutosan | right so what I was looking is that it should me made universal be it for a school or for a certain competition it should work fine, users must be able to download the module and should be able to use as straight as possible | 08:17 |
| narutosan | exactly but I am not adding any unnecessary things | 08:17 |
| narutosan | what I am opting for is it should be made more descriptive providing different various options so that you can make it configurable | 08:19 |
| narutosan | so what you say is frontend in PhGTK / Webbased?? | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | I think pygtk to start with | 08:20 |
| narutosan | k | 08:20 |
| narutosan | backend | 08:21 |
| narutosan | ?? | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | whatever it takes to get the job done :-) | 08:21 |
| narutosan | ;0 | 08:21 |
| narutosan | ok | 08:21 |
| narutosan | thank you so much for your help ; I will start my application now | 08:23 |
| narutosan | *writing | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | cool | 08:27 |
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| narutosan | LaserJock: can I use perl to be the backend?? | 08:56 |
| LaserJock | well | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | it would make the most sense to use python, IMO | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | as the primary fronted will be GTK | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | but I guess that could be debated later | 08:58 |
| narutosan | hey what is IMO?? | 08:58 |
| LaserJock | In My Opinion | 08:58 |
| narutosan | !! | 08:59 |
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| narutosan | LaserJock: Will you check my app.? | 09:57 |
| narutosan | can some-one check my application for GSoc for edubuntu?? | 09:59 |
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| narutosan | !! | 10:00 |
| narutosan | hello!!.. | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | hi | 10:01 |
| LaserJock | hi narutosan | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock: get to bed ;) | 10:01 |
| narutosan | hello | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 10:01 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: getting there, my eyes hurt and I'm getting a headache | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | then Go To Sleep | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | ---> Film Quote Alert <------ | 10:02 |
| narutosan | LaserJock: is it so !! oh bye then | 10:02 |
| narutosan | ;0 | 10:03 |
| narutosan | ;) | 10:03 |
| narutosan | LaserJock: Can u please check my app. | 10:03 |
| narutosan | I have just submitted!! | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | do you have it available online? | 10:04 |
| narutosan | yes of course "it can be accessed on GSoc if u are a mentor and have a valid username n password for mentors" is what it mentions | 10:05 |
| cbx33 | ahhh... | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | I can have a quick look | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | what is your name? | 10:07 |
| narutosan | My name is Pranava Swaroop S | 10:07 |
| narutosan | did you get it | 10:08 |
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| narutosan | cbx33: ?? | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | yup | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | looks great | 10:09 |
| narutosan | thank you | 10:09 |
| narutosan | :) | 10:10 |
| narutosan | can you give me any comments | 10:10 |
| narutosan | I mean any additions or deletions that has to be made | 10:10 |
| narutosan | ?? | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | I don;t think so....it looks like a decent application to me | 10:11 |
| narutosan | may i know how many people have applied for the same | 10:11 |
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| narutosan | *****Gonna go for Lunch!! | 10:18 |
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| kigurai | cbx33: I have submitted my application now | 10:44 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: I put several more Edubuntu projects on the SoC ideas page | 11:06 |
| LaserJock | not sure if they are all that much us, but Keybuk wanted to know if I had any ideas so i put some up real quick | 11:06 |
| LaserJock | s/us/use/ | 11:07 |
| ogra_ | saw that | 11:07 |
| ogra_ | thanks | 11:07 |
| ogra_ | even though i'm really not after managing so many projects ... | 11:07 |
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| LaserJock | well, hopefully you won't need to | 11:07 |
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| highvoltage | hey LaserJock and ogra | 11:12 |
| LaserJock | hi highvoltage | 11:13 |
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| cliebow | /join #ubuntu | 11:58 |
| highvoltage | cliebow: what's happening there? | 12:01 |
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| cliebow | hi: just getting ready to go to school.. | 12:11 |
| cliebow | got pygtk on my mind... | 12:11 |
| cliebow | need to test the sound on the ppc feisty client this A.M. if things are quiet. | 12:12 |
| cliebow | so feed the dogs..the cats..the parrots..the fish..the outside birds..the wife. | 12:12 |
| highvoltage | geez, lots of animals | 12:15 |
| cliebow | regular zoo..sounds like GFuatemaka in here...what piece of edubuntu you working on? | 12:18 |
| cliebow | hmmm.gotta drive to school..bbiab.. | 12:18 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 02:38 |
| ogra | afternoon | 02:38 |
| jsgotangco | hi! | 02:39 |
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| highvoltage | hey friendly friends! | 02:42 |
| sbalneav | ogra: Spent some time going through the programs list night. Tried the "enhanced desktop effects" or whatever the heck they call that whacky window manager. | 02:42 |
| sbalneav | And I have to say, for the record | 02:42 |
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| sbalneav | It sucks. | 02:42 |
| sbalneav | big time. | 02:42 |
| ogra | heh | 02:43 |
| bddebian | Heya | 02:44 |
| ogra | i havent seen it ever ... got no card supporting composite here ... | 02:44 |
| sbalneav | Firefox COMPLETELY messes up underneath it. | 02:44 |
| sbalneav | it's a HUGE cpu hog. | 02:44 |
| ogra | i tried bery with xgl on my ati card ... but that suicked a lot ... | 02:44 |
| ogra | *beryl | 02:44 |
| sbalneav | People seem to go gaga over this, I'm left wondering "what are they smoking". | 02:45 |
| ogra | luckily we dont ship it in edubuntu :) | 02:45 |
| ogra | well, its cool in new HW | 02:45 |
| sbalneav | I've got 20 bucks right here right now. | 02:46 |
| ogra | if you have 3GHz dual core, 2Gig of RAM and a new nvidia card in your laptop it will rock | 02:46 |
| sbalneav | This twenty says: anyone who turns it on, and thinks it's cool, turns it off in two months once the novelty's worn off. | 02:46 |
| sbalneav | heh | 02:47 |
| sbalneav | yeah | 02:47 |
| sbalneav | "I'm going to carry around a box that's capable of serving 30 thin clients, because I want my WINDOWS to wiggle when I move 'em around" :) | 02:47 |
| sbalneav | wiggle wiggle wiggle | 02:47 |
| ogra | heh | 02:48 |
| ogra | dont forget they drop real shadows to cool your coke on the desktop in the sun ;) | 02:48 |
| sbalneav | Sorry, I know I'm sounding like a grade-a ***hole here, but MAN, if we could get all those graphics guys making windows burning in one of those windows managers working on the Gimp, or producing a great Free 3d game or something... | 02:49 |
| jsgotangco | yup | 02:49 |
| sbalneav | We need to get some good 3d games included in the distro, if there's room. | 02:51 |
| sbalneav | Or maybe a "gamebuntu" | 02:51 |
| sbalneav | add Glest, warzone2100, Wesnoth, etc. | 02:52 |
| === highvoltage doesn't like the need for proprietary drivers for beryl/compiz on some machines (but I've ranted enough about that ;) ) | ||
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| jsgotangco | :) | 02:54 |
| sbalneav | highvoltage: Do like I am, switching to Intel graphics. | 02:56 |
| sbalneav | Plus, sending nice letters to intel encouraging them to produce an AGP card with their graphics chipset,so you don't have to replace your mobo to get it. | 02:57 |
| crimsun | yeah, I passed up a core 2 duo so that I could stick w/ intel graphics | 02:57 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: I have intel graphics on all my machines ;) | 02:58 |
| sbalneav | Good man | 02:58 |
| sbalneav | I'm 1/2 way there. | 02:58 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: I made the switch since I was wow'd by my little i845 4 years ago | 02:58 |
| === highvoltage is 7/8ths there | ||
| highvoltage | my one computer has one of these S3 Unichrome cards onboard | 02:59 |
| highvoltage | but I've demoted it to a file and xen server | 02:59 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, I was gonna say. | 02:59 |
| highvoltage | if it doesn't have an intel card that works with free drivers, it's not desktop worthy for me :) | 03:00 |
| sbalneav | S3 is to video what, say, a McDonalds cheeseburger is to fine cuisine. | 03:00 |
| highvoltage | heh | 03:00 |
| sbalneav | Or, subway come to think of it. | 03:00 |
| sbalneav | haha | 03:00 |
| highvoltage | lol! | 03:00 |
| highvoltage | then you should say, "what subway is to french cuisine"! | 03:00 |
| sbalneav | yeah | 03:01 |
| sbalneav | Coming to the next UDS? | 03:01 |
| highvoltage | having said that, the subway over here is much better than the subway in france. | 03:01 |
| highvoltage | I don't know, RichEd says it's 99% confirmed, he wants me to talk at the education summit happening before the UDS | 03:01 |
| highvoltage | but I haven't received final confirmation yet. | 03:02 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: and you? | 03:02 |
| sbalneav | I'm willing to wager you've got some local restaurants that serve Boer/Dutch/Native SA dishes that kick the butt off anything Subway has to serve :) | 03:02 |
| sbalneav | Far as I know, I'll be there. | 03:03 |
| highvoltage | heh | 03:03 |
| sbalneav | You'll have a chance to redeem yourself, culinary wise. | 03:03 |
| sbalneav | Just do what we do, say what we say. :) | 03:03 |
| === highvoltage will have to do that | ||
| highvoltage | I'd like to have some time to talk to ogra and Laser_away and yourself and any other edubuntu members that might be there about edubuntu and how we can get some more momentum in the project | 03:04 |
| highvoltage | things have become more sane for me the last month or so, so I can get into edubuntu much more easier again | 03:05 |
| ogra | highvoltage, you dont come to UES ? | 03:05 |
| ogra | we should have plenty of time to talk about everything there | 03:05 |
| highvoltage | ogra: riched said there's a 99% probability that I will, but I don't have confirmation yet | 03:05 |
| ogra | right, and rich is apparently not able to get online from where he is atm | 03:06 |
| ogra | next week then | 03:06 |
| highvoltage | where is he at the moment? | 03:06 |
| ogra | somewhere travelling in africa ... | 03:07 |
| highvoltage | when is UES again? I can't find the exact dates in my logs anymore | 03:07 |
| ogra | to some conf or something, i'm not 100% sure | 03:07 |
| ogra | three days before UDS, same place | 03:07 |
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| cbx33 | ogra: can you let RichEd know I can't get to UES | 03:29 |
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| kigurai | Hello everyone | 03:32 |
| juliux | hi kigurai | 03:35 |
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| ogra | cbx33, no, surely not before you can do it yourself ... he's still travelling | 03:59 |
| cbx33 | heh | 04:13 |
| cbx33 | I bet you'll see him before I will ;) | 04:13 |
| kigurai | cbx33: Did you get my application? :) | 04:16 |
| cbx33 | google got your apication yes ;) | 04:18 |
| kigurai | cbx33: Haha :) | 04:19 |
| ogra | http://www.fysioforum.nl/ | 04:34 |
| ogra | hmm | 04:34 |
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| gvx | can some one please assist me with creating a custom live cd? I have a cd burned and a second pc ready to partition... | 05:03 |
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| cliebow_ | Yeccch: just blew away a perfeclty good mint install so put on xp..so the little christers can use Plato Learning | 05:19 |
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| Kobie | after a while my dsl connection disconnects in ifconfig ppp0 upper to be up a download continues but mozilla wont any one can help ? | 05:36 |
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| cbx33 | Hey Burgwork | 06:43 |
| cbx33 | do you have a media pc then? | 06:43 |
| Burgwork | no, but I am in the middle of designing one | 06:43 |
| cbx33 | awesome | 06:43 |
| cbx33 | seen linuxmce? | 06:43 |
| cbx33 | that's what I'm gonna use for it | 06:44 |
| cbx33 | but I'm just trying to work out the hardware | 06:44 |
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| cliebow__ | cbx33:studentcontrolpanel.ltcm doesnt seem available..running student-control-panel | 06:49 |
| cbx33 | Ill be downloading the pacakge a little later on | 06:50 |
| cliebow__ | excellent..can you give a link when you do?? | 06:51 |
| cbx33 | of course | 06:51 |
| cliebow__ | im trying to get a handle on it 8~) | 06:52 |
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| rockprincess | howdy howdy | 07:45 |
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| tackat | Is there anyone curious enough to try an early beta: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Marble+-+Desktop+Globe?content=55105 | 09:37 |
| tackat | :) | 09:37 |
| rockprincess | tackat: yeah sure, certainly!!! is there a .deb file? :D | 09:38 |
| tackat | rockprincess: yes | 09:38 |
| rockprincess | tackat: cool, thank you!! i'll try it!!! | 09:38 |
| tackat | rockprincess: Install http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble_0.3-1_i386.deb and http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble-data_0.3-1_all.deb | 09:39 |
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| rockprincess | tackat: uhhhh missing dependencies.... | 09:44 |
| tackat | rockprincess: ?????? | 09:44 |
| tackat | rockprincess: you only need Qt 4.2 | 09:44 |
| rockprincess | tackat: libgcc1 libc6 libstdc++6 | 09:45 |
| rockprincess | are missing, need to install them first | 09:45 |
| tackat | are you on edgy or feisty? | 09:45 |
| rockprincess | edgy | 09:45 |
| tackat | ok | 09:46 |
| tackat | they are made for edgy | 09:46 |
| rockprincess | hmmm, doesn | 09:46 |
| rockprincess | doesn't work :( | 09:46 |
| rockprincess | i just tried to install the above mentioned libraries manually, but it says they're already installed | 09:46 |
| tackat | rockprincess: what kind of processor? do you have | 09:46 |
| rockprincess | amd | 09:46 |
| tackat | hm | 09:47 |
| tackat | still strange :) | 09:47 |
| tackat | you're the first to report that it doesn't work and I had several kubuntu people trying it already | 09:47 |
| rockprincess | libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 should be installed....says the konsole | 09:47 |
| rockprincess | hmm :( | 09:48 |
| tackat | are you sure that it's not a leftover dependency from some other package? | 09:50 |
| rockprincess | hmm maybe......shall i try a force install? http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=edgy&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=libc6&searchon=names | 09:51 |
| tackat | did you do an "apt-get -f install" before? | 09:52 |
| rockprincess | nope | 09:52 |
| tackat | try that | 09:52 |
| tackat | :) | 09:52 |
| rockprincess | okidok | 09:52 |
| rockprincess | hmm i think an apt-get -f install won't work, as marble isn't in the ubuntu repositories yet, is it? | 09:53 |
| rockprincess | when i install apt-get -f install marble it will install something different probably? | 09:53 |
| tackat | no. You just do. | 09:53 |
| tackat | apt-get -f install | 09:54 |
| tackat | No "marble" behind that | 09:54 |
| rockprincess | ok | 09:54 |
| tackat | and then tell me what it says :) | 09:54 |
| rockprincess | it said: Entferne marble ... which means "removing marble" | 09:55 |
| tackat | ok | 09:55 |
| tackat | anything else? | 09:56 |
| rockprincess | nothing else, i'm afraid | 09:56 |
| tackat | strange :) | 09:56 |
| rockprincess | what a pity....i wanted to try out marble because the screenshots look wicked :) | 09:58 |
| rockprincess | is it maybe because i ain't got qt4.2 yet? | 09:59 |
| tackat | d'oh | 10:00 |
| tackat | yes | 10:00 |
| tackat | you need qt4.2 first :) | 10:00 |
| tackat | so please install qt4.2 and once you did, try again to install those two marble-deb's | 10:01 |
| tackat | :) | 10:01 |
| rockprincess | will i fuck up my system if i install qt4.2. is there any harm or am i mixing things up with kde4? | 10:01 |
| rockprincess | ok | 10:01 |
| tackat | no | 10:01 |
| tackat | qt4.2 doesn't touch any parts of your existing KDE | 10:01 |
| rockprincess | excellent ;) | 10:02 |
| rockprincess | hmmm can | 10:05 |
| rockprincess | can't find the package | 10:05 |
| rockprincess | what packages are needed for qt4.2? | 10:06 |
| rockprincess | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=edgy&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=qt4&searchon=names | 10:06 |
| tackat | libqt4-core | 10:07 |
| tackat | libqt4-gui | 10:07 |
| tackat | that's about it | 10:07 |
| rockprincess | thank you! | 10:07 |
| rockprincess | hmm both are already installed | 10:08 |
| rockprincess | trying something different...hold on | 10:08 |
| rockprincess | fuck.... | 10:09 |
| rockprincess | it says "trying to remove kubuntu-desktop" | 10:09 |
| tackat | wow :) what are you doing over there? | 10:09 |
| tackat | apt-get install libqt4-core libqt4-gui | 10:10 |
| tackat | should never try to remove anything :) | 10:10 |
| rockprincess | Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library | 10:11 |
| rockprincess | The -kdecopy version of Qt 4 is for KDE 4 developers only. It is a build of qt-copy from KDE's SVN and will always conflict with the normal Qt 4 packages. No binary compatibility is guaranteed. | 10:11 |
| rockprincess | Qt is a cross-platform C++ application framework. Qt's primary feature is its rich set of widgets that provide standard GUI functionality. | 10:11 |
| rockprincess | This packages contains the core non-GUI shared library, and the Network and XML modules. | 10:11 |
| tackat | You tried to install the wrong package :) | 10:12 |
| tackat | I didn't say: | 10:12 |
| tackat | libqt4-gui-kdecopy | 10:12 |
| tackat | I said: | 10:12 |
| tackat | libqt4-gui | 10:12 |
| tackat | same for: libqt4-core-kdecopy vs. libqt4-core | 10:12 |
| tackat | So just do: apt-get install libqt4-core libqt4-gui | 10:13 |
| rockprincess | yep, but libqt4-gui was already installed......anyway, i reinstalled libqt4-core and kubuntu-desktop....hopefully there won't be too much damages | 10:13 |
| rockprincess | anyway, i think i shall reboot.....wish me luck :D | 10:14 |
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| tackat | rockprincess: and? | 10:38 |
| rockprincess | tackat: being a bit paranoid right now, and backing up my /.kde/ folder before i boot ;) | 10:40 |
| rockprincess | might take some time hehe | 10:40 |
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| sayan_ | o/ | 10:45 |
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| rockprincess | tackat: still not working....but atleast everything's fine with kubuntu....i'll try to install it on monday when I'm at my school again...different setup, might work there... | 11:03 |
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| cbx33 | cliebow, tcm works fine here | 12:07 |
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