=== Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-146.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:19] anything needing to get done? [12:24] ryanakca: yes, you can rub my neck, it's hurting [12:24] lol === Tm_T orders personal massage === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:25] (or was it massacre?) [12:25] ;) [12:25] Tm_T: massacre for you, massage for me. [12:25] sebas: deal! [12:25] Hm, Instant Massaging, a new feature for KDE4 [12:25] ? [12:26] rofl [12:34] ryanakca, bug 94615 needs love :) [12:34] Malone bug 94615 in kdebase "Firefox launched from alt-f2 doesn't apply all gtk2-qt-engine settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94615 [12:41] yacoob: and I don't?! === sebas gives Tm_T some safe internet loving. === ryanakca thinks he can figure out how to fix it [01:01] Riddell: I am building yet another kubuntu-docs package to close a linking bug. No strings were harmed in the creation of this package :) === Jucato thwacks nixternal with a Long Pointy Stick of Doom (while Hobbsee's not around) === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:06] anyone knows is there will be chance to get Feisty cd's to releaseparty (that means shipped before release) ? [01:06] or, hm, we always could burn them ourself [01:07] need nice packages though [01:07] or better idea, we need only one cd with Riddell's signature! === yuriy [n=yuriy@dyn-129-64-208-46.wireless-bg.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:10] sebas: i got your email [01:10] Tm_T: get your LoCo contact person to pre-order Feisty CD's [01:11] Jucato: even with my activity, I have no idea what "my LoCo" could be [01:11] Local Community [01:11] hm... [01:11] yes, but what does that mean in real world ;) [01:12] er... dunno :) [01:12] exactly === Jucato doesn't know where Tm_T is from... [01:12] i wouldn't know what my loco group would be [01:12] Jucato: 1 point hint, where Linux is from [01:12] ubuntu-fi then? [01:13] ...that's our LoCo? === Jucato checks the wiki [01:13] interesting, I wonder who's our leader then [01:15] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FinnishTeam [01:15] that reminds me, i should preorder feisty cd's [01:16] Finland TimoJyrinki FinnishTeam #ubuntu-fi ubuntu-fi@lists.ubuntu.com http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/ [01:16] aah, mirv, thanks [01:16] (atleast we have leader) === mhb_ [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:20] Jucato: I thought you were in the philipines... [01:20] ryanakca: you thought right :) [01:20] oh, lol === xerosis_ [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca reread... I thought you were from finland [01:21] hehe :) [01:21] I'm not worthy to share the same country with Tm_T [01:21] :D [01:21] hmm... commiting a hopefull fix to k-d-s on launchpad can't hurt, can it? [01:22] ( to fix bug 94615 ) [01:22] Malone bug 94615 in kdebase "Firefox launched from alt-f2 doesn't apply all gtk2-qt-engine settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94615 === Jucato doesn't know... just knows that beta is still in freeze === ryanakca nods === ryanakca kicks bzr... sooo slow. [01:23] I thought it was supposed to be fast :P === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@201.67.35.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:26] lol [01:27] it /could/ run 5% faster if it was run with python -O [01:27] heeh :) === ryanakca googles the web for some kind of linux news === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:36] Riddell: http://librarian.launchpad.net/6900329/kubuntu-docs.debdiff [01:36] tested and works === jack_wyt [n=jack@59.40.102.239] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=francis@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:11] Hobbsee: morning [02:12] heya [02:12] stupid kopete keeps crashing on start [02:12] Hobbsee!!! [02:12] :) [02:12] hey Jucato! === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11fapcf.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:14] bah, can't get it to work :/ [02:15] Hobbsee: the X freezing after continued use w/o mouse/keyboard activity is a known bug right? [02:16] Jucato: dunno [02:16] wasn't that the X bug you were telling me about? something about opengl screensavers or something? [02:17] oh. could be. thats' been fixed === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.191.58] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:18] hm... just experienced it twice... the 2nd one earlier.. :( [02:25] ok, time to give up, good night -> === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:26] oh dear. kmail devs are fixing heaps of bugs, all of which are going to violate freeze [02:27] how about taking svn 3.5.6 kmail... [02:27] oh.. [02:41] Tm_T: the patch works perfectly :) [02:41] Tm_T: I just had big fixing a kpilot build issue [02:41] Tm_T: I just tested on 800 mails, using the menus and not ctrl+j, no crash === naught101 [n=naught10@dhcp-unknown-165-236.newcastle.edu.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@201.88.26.217] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54a726a2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:33] hi hunger umm hunger_t === Jucato hungry now.. [04:34] Just ate Bun and cheese === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === naught101 [n=naught10@60-242-222-210.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde_ [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:03] 'morning [08:04] hiya === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.179.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:33] Ridell, sebas: I switched to Feisty yesterday [08:34] hey jpetso [08:34] hey Hobbsee [08:34] sebas: guidance-powermanager is still showing "Not present" for the (non-existant) second battery [08:35] Riddell: I tried out the upgrader, and noted a few shortcomings [08:35] Riddell: Which means you'll get a text file sent to your mail address :D === pascalFR [i=aVa78sdG@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:36] yeah, and i'm now trying to actually work with Polyester [08:37] it may work out! === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-77156.0x5734b54a.naenxx12.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:55] _StefanS_: !!! [08:55] :) [08:56] <_StefanS_> hey [08:57] <_StefanS_> wasssup ? [08:57] not much. :) [08:57] <_StefanS_> so you're the only one here ? :) [08:57] well at least nothing directly related the logout dialog :D [08:57] Hobbsee's here too, with her stick as usual :D [08:58] <_StefanS_> of doom [08:58] long pointy :) [08:59] <_StefanS_> I dont really see that bluetooth patch anywhere.. [09:06] of course === Hobbsee greets Jucato with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and waves to _StefanS_ [09:07] <_StefanS_> :) === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ is now known as jpetso === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:41] hmm, how I can filter stuff from fridge calendar to ical file? === marseillais is now known as marseillai === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-134-75.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:47] Lure: ping [09:47] Lure: your K3b packages don't include the (dvdread-dependant) DVD ripping support, do they? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@88.134.194.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.6.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:59] comments welcome http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php === hunger_t is now known as hunger [10:13] hunger: any photos from the decibel do? [10:13] Riddell: I think Duncan has uploaded some. [10:14] Riddell: I have a couple... mostly boring pics of us sitting in front of our laptops. [10:14] hunger: THat's cool, people like to see faces. [10:14] "What does the decibel-god look like?" [10:16] http://www.flickr.com/photos/duncanmac-vicar hmm, toilets and baths, probably not === tackat_ [n=tackat@p5493f04a.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:16] If somebody would like to try Marble: http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble14.png here are packages (they work for Edgy): http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble_0.2-3_i386.deb http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble-data_0.2-3_all.deb === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:17] maybe we can have marble for Ubiquity in the next release? :) [10:18] Jucato: it's over 10MB, so probably not [10:18] btw: It doesn't use OpenGL ;) [10:18] ouch O.o [10:18] Riddell: it should be 6 MB [10:18] prolly still a bit big for the Live CD though... :( [10:18] Riddell: and you can easily strip it down :) [10:18] oh yes [10:19] should be possible to make 4 MB out of it if you ask me how === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:20] jpetso: yes, dvdread is in universe and need main inclusion first - we first want to ensure k3b 1.0 exception of freeze and then we can add additional build dependancies and MIR [10:20] Lure: ah, so it's actually planned? [10:21] er. [10:21] Lure_: I wouldn't have guessed so :) [10:21] And you could even ship without the data package if you wait 2-3 weeks, as I'll have automagical tile download by that time [10:22] Riddell: any news regarding k3b UVFe (now that beta is almost out)? [10:22] In that case it would only be 200 kB [10:23] Lure_: what does resmgr do? it was in previous releases, but has been removed in Feisty [10:23] jpetso: resmgr? [10:24] (i'm asking because that was an optional K3b build depency, and i now checkinstalled an own build myself) [10:24] Lure_: nope, we can poke tollef after beta is out (waiting for mirrors to sync) [10:24] s/depency/dependency/ [10:25] Riddell: or cjwatson... [10:27] Riddell: i hope i got your mail address right when sending my upgrader issue report file? [10:29] Riddell: should you also mention koffice 1.6.2 in beta announement (even if not on cd)? [10:29] Lure_: tollef is release dude [10:29] jpetso: yes, got it thanks === Tonio_ [n=tonio@249.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:29] jpetso: I hope to get round to clearing my e-mail backlog today [10:29] Riddell: yes, but both are listed for exceptions in main ;-) [10:29] hehe [10:29] Riddell: you just need to pick the right one ;-) [10:30] Riddell: just send it to /dev/null. easy === Jucato sends Jucato to /dev/null === Hobbsee rescues Jucato [10:31] don't! :) [10:32] hi everyone [10:32] hi Tonio_! [10:35] ARGH, IT'S TONIO. EVERYBODY RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [10:35] ahem. hi! [10:35] Tonio_: mooh, good to hear there's no crashes anymore [10:35] Hobbsee: you should stop thinking aloud :) [10:36] Tonio_: I instead keep having crashes, have to turn indexlib off again :( [10:36] Tm_T: what surprises me is that people claim the fix doesn't work on kde bts... [10:36] Jucato: *grin* [10:36] anyone here using Umbrello? just wondering how to add a constructor in a class diagram [10:36] Tm_T: I tested here with thousands of emails, that perfectly stable [10:36] Tonio_: aww, that's evil [10:36] i thought we didnt ship with digikam at the moment? [10:37] aww, I'm so tired... :( [10:38] Tm_T: btw, I'll upload and close the launchpad bug once the freeze ends [10:39] nice, kmail is getting some bug fixing attention: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2739 [10:39] yup [10:39] we should look into this and include them in feisty... [10:39] Jucato: was that you who ping me concerning kinstaller and its kcm extension for systemsettings ? === sebas wonders if some of those patches will make Feisty. [10:39] I'm unsure who did... === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:40] Tonio_: um. nope... :/ [10:40] Jucato: okay ;) [10:40] Lure_: indeed. i'm just wondering how much of it we can put in [10:40] hi mr luka ! [10:40] (but I'm sure I ping'ed you for some kcm stuff too :P) [10:40] Hobbsee: everything [10:40] Lure_: as long as they dont break anything else while they fix imap, we'll be right [10:40] hi Tonio_ [10:40] seeing as imap is utterly broken in current form [10:40] Hobbsee: Dreamer ;-) [10:40] sebas: :P === sebas goes for a shower. [10:41] O.o [10:41] Hobbsee: broken ? [10:41] Well, Bille and coolo are otherwise very capable developers, so there's some hope =) [10:41] Tonio_: imap mail on kmail, broken, yes. [10:41] freaking coincidence that I'm about to do the same thing sebas is going to do O.o [10:41] Hobbsee: I use imapr for all my email accounts and never have a problem [10:41] Tonio_: with kmail? [10:41] Jucato: You scare me, go away! ;-) [10:41] with kontact, is there a difference ? [10:41] Tonio_: you dont get hitten by the crash on select mail bug, that most other people get hit by? [10:41] you scared me first [10:41] no. should be the same [10:42] (of course I have to be the one to go away :P) [10:42] My most-hated bug is when the system time is weird. [10:42] Hobbsee: the only issue I had with imap is select lots of mails and apply filters [10:42] Hobbsee: wifed with the patch I hadded yesterday [10:42] ahhh [10:42] Hobbsee: appart from that, works perfectly here [10:42] Sometimes my systems comes out of suspend-to-ram with the date set to 2002. If then kmail gets any mail, or basically changes any mtime in a dimap folder, I have to delete all local copies of my email to make kmail start again. [10:42] lucky. dunno how [10:43] Highly annoying. [10:43] I don't use direct imap, but disconnected imap.... maybe the difference is there [10:43] ah, yes [10:43] that'd be it [10:43] Well, shower(). [10:45] tackat_: ooh, we can classify marble as a KDE 4 project, that means it's covered by our ignore upstream version freeze rule === waylandbill [n=kvirc@74-34-7-87.dsl1-merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:46] haha [10:46] O.o [10:46] this is the "anything can fit under KDE 4 project" mantra [10:46] tackat_: what's changed in -3? [10:47] Hobbsee: hm.. is that a good thing or a bad thing? /me is ignorant :) [10:47] Hobbsee: to be fair it is a KDE 4 project in development [10:47] Riddell: yeah, thought it might be === waylandbill waves to Jucato [10:50] hah :) [10:50] Riddell: it includes a measure tool and very basic Wikipedia integration [10:50] Riddell: and a coordination grid [10:51] tackat_: if this is a new upstream source releae it should have a new upstream version number (e.g. 0.3) [10:51] Riddell: ah ok, I'll keep that in mind next time. [10:52] er [10:52] Obviously I tried to be too conservative with the version number ;) [10:52] tackat_: I can't upload it to feisty unless it has a new version number === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:53] Riddell: Now that is hard to change ;) [10:53] has anyone noticed and buggerups with recent xorg updates? === Tonio_ is listening to Pull Me Under by Dream Theater on Live at the Marquee [Amarok] [10:54] sorry that's just a test ! [10:54] Riddell: so which version number would do it? [10:54] my mate is suing fesity on a dell d600, and the entire screen is artefacting massively [10:54] using [10:54] tackat_: anything larger than 0.2 :) [10:54] Ah ok [10:56] there's a fair amount of reading in the packaging guide. [10:56] guess I better get coffee. :-) [10:57] waylandbill: we'll test you on it at the end, you know that, dont you? :P === waylandbill hates pop quizes === Tonio_ can't wait for the end of the freeze........ that's too long :'( [10:58] Tonio_: hehe, exactly! [10:59] 9 days now no ? [10:59] something like that. beta got delayed [11:00] Hobbsee: yes but well..... a bit painfull... === yacoob [i=yacoob@hell.pl] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:22] ha! I think I can see Hobbsee from Marble :) [11:22] hrm? [11:23] didn't try installing marble? :) === hunger_t_ is now known as hunger [11:23] nope [11:23] ah [11:23] -ENOEDGY [11:24] oh yeah.. forgot that it's edgy :) [11:24] hmm, Marble is KDE4 -mapwidget stuff? [11:24] hey wth?! I'm not on edgy either lol! [11:24] Hobbsee: I installed it on feisty bwahahah [11:24] ahhh [11:24] didnt try it [11:24] Tm_T: yah [11:25] it's like a tamed Google Earth [11:25] Jucato: hmm, I think I have seen it before [11:25] it's kinda nice for a wow effect in Ubiquity :) [11:26] Hobbsee: ETA of beta? [11:26] Jucato: friday [11:26] next friday? [11:26] this one [11:26] ohkay.... [11:26] so I guess a bit later? [11:26] yeah, think so [11:27] the candidates from today should be it, i think [11:28] wow, this is big... === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db442f9.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tackat [n=tackat@p5493f04a.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ is now known as jpetso === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink is now known as raphink [11:56] Riddell: http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/ [11:56] could you tell me whether they work for you? === raphink_ [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:57] " package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)" [11:57] hang on [11:57] ah [11:58] hm [11:58] yeah [11:58] I compiled with -msse === Riddell boots up laptop [11:58] because it's a lot faster then [11:59] any suggestion how to package it in a way that there are seperate packages for >PentiumIII [11:59] (i.e. including SSE) === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:00] Riddell: btw: the debian-dir is in SVN [12:00] I don't think there's any way of doing that [12:00] hm :) [12:01] It should be really tough to find a PC without SSE these day so it's a bit stupid if it had to be compiled without SSE :) [12:02] there's an Edinburg in Mexico?! [12:02] if Marble says so, then it very likely is ;) [12:03] mm, no, just inside the US border [12:03] ah, there's the real Edinburgh [12:03] well, marble works lovely as usual === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:03] tackat: I'll kick off that 0.3.1 [12:03] the "real" ;) [12:04] one has an 'h', the other doesn't. so the one without an 'h' isn't the real Edinburgh :) [12:04] let's see if wikipedia picks it up :) [12:04] right :) === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:05] now I gotta find edinburgh myself since you all got me curious. :-) [12:05] Jucato: Well "Edinburgh" obviously has a Wikipedia article :) [12:06] there's a few edinburg and edinburghs listed on wikipedia [12:07] well the Wikipedia-autoname resolving doesn't really work to well yet. That will be improved for Marble 0.4 [12:07] Jerusalemi is in Eastern Finland [12:09] tackat: images don't seem to work in the wikipaedia tab [12:09] Riddell: that's correct [12:09] Riddell: That's still on the todo [12:09] "Download from Wikipaedia finished..." don't put an elipsis when there's nothing else going to happen [12:09] ok [12:11] I wonder where all lakes from Finland disappeared :) [12:11] Riddell: I need to implement a downloadmanager class for the wikipedia images as well as the World-Wind-image-tiles [12:11] or just depend on KDE :) [12:12] That will take a few days to do properly. [12:12] hehe [12:12] or wait for the qt webkit class I guess [12:13] yeah that would be one of the very few cases where KDE would be handy for backend [12:13] hmm [12:14] Riddell: who is reviewing the NEW queue now ? [12:14] Tonio_: nobody [12:14] Riddell: klavier (graphical keyboard) never reached the repos, still locked in queue, even if I uploaded it before the freeze [12:14] tackat: from where this takes that atlas map? [12:14] Riddell: who to ping then ? cjwatson ? mdz ? [12:15] Tonio_: it was brought up at the last team meeting and there were some volunteers to take it on but I don't think there's been any progress on it [12:15] Tonio_: pitti [12:15] klavier is important or the usability part, we should try to push a bit to get it in [12:15] accessibility [12:15] that's what I meant yes ;) [12:15] Riddell: will ping him today, thanks [12:17] Tm_T: It says while initializing the map (basically "Nasa" / public domain) [12:17] Tonio_: mithrandir works [12:18] Hobbsee: yes but mithrandir is probably very busy with the beta coming out :) [12:18] Tonio_: quite likely. doesnt take long to accept something though [12:19] Hobbsee: well if pitti doesn't do it I'll ping him then [12:19] right === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mars [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-10-193.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] Riddell: heno suggest getting klavier on the cd, as it is only 60k [12:41] Riddell: isn't that too late according to you ? === hunger_t is now known as hunger [12:41] but as you say, it's looking late for main [12:42] heno: probably, but as that's not a "dangerous" change, and very simple and important app for accessebility, we can (in my opinion) make an exception for this :) [12:42] I don't think we need to push it into feisty [12:42] Tonio_: can you upload things? [12:42] Hobbsee: sure, but I'll wait for the end of the freeze :) [12:42] Tonio_: can you upload http://librarian.launchpad.net/6901713/kdelibsjump.debdiff, and it can sit in unapproved until the beta freeze ends? [12:42] Tonio_: sounds sensible [12:43] Hobbsee: sure I can, but I'll do a mass packages upload once the freeze ends ;) let's wait and do that at the same moment [12:43] Tonio_: as long as that gets done. [12:43] OTOH, I could contact the author and say, we really want to include this for feisty+1; here are some changers that would be cool ... [12:43] Tonio_: what are you uploading? [12:44] kdelibs, bluez-utils, kdepim, pommed [12:44] how much of kdepim are you doing? [12:45] Tonio_: if you're going to do that, please make sure you pick up all the bugs assigned to me [12:45] Hobbsee: nzb mimetype install issue [12:45] Hobbsee: I'll merge the changes with yours [12:45] Tonio_: i havent writtne changes yet, just assigned the bugs that we need to fix before release to me [12:47] Hobbsee: okay, concerning nzb, there is no bug for this, just something we changed and that needs fixing to work [12:47] Tonio_: that's fine. [12:49] Tonio_: I'd be hesitant but not entirely against it [12:49] Tonio_: k-d-s profiles would need changing for the corret profile to load it === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-77-196.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:50] Riddell: what wrong with them ? [12:51] Tonio_: well it won't load up klavier [12:51] Riddell: ah okay ;) [12:51] you'd like to get it load on boot ? [12:51] motor-difficulties-pointing-devices should have it started by default (if it gets into main and on CD) [12:52] Riddell: okay I'll look at how to do this.... [12:52] It's still quite rough IMO [12:52] it could do with 6 months of polish and helpful suggestions [12:53] heno: I agree the base is nice but the software really needs improvements [12:53] Riddell: why not discussing this as a spec for feisty+1, and plan for kubuntu default inclusion then ? [12:53] So my suggestion would be universe for feisty, default install for feisty+1 [12:54] Riddell: improving it is important I think [12:54] heno: makes sense [12:54] ideally we could get some collaboration with the onboard work [12:55] Riddell: concerning motor-difficulties-pointing-devices, that requires the package to be previously installed no ? [12:55] share layout profiles or something [12:55] Riddell: won't that end up with errors if the software isn't installed ? [12:55] Tonio_: well yes, hense why I said "(if it gets into main and on CD)" [12:55] Riddell: oops :) [12:56] man I look sleepy http://www.kubuntu-de.org/nachrichten/software/kde/kde4-und-kubuntu [12:56] Riddell: okay so what about taking this as a little spec next uds and plan everything for feisty+1 ? [12:56] anyone here tested the new krusader? [12:56] that's reasonable for me === lnxkde_ [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:56] Riddell: indeed, looks like you need to take a break hehe :) [12:57] Tonio_: sounds good [12:57] Riddell: how many years without vacations ? [12:57] I mean longuer than a WE [12:57] I went to Croatia last November [12:58] ho! nice :) [12:58] I'll be there next week === lnxkde__ [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@chello062178070021.24.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:10] I have to find a job, really....... [01:10] now I'm stick at home, I don't shave anymore, don't have my air cut, I've gone fat :'( [01:10] http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=55105 [01:11] Put Marble up on kde-apps.org now === Jucato kinda finds it hard to imagine Tonio_ getting fat... [01:11] transformed to a king of bear..... [01:11] hehe === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:11] Tonio_: just give me some of your weight, and i'll be happy :P [01:11] Jucato: weight grown from 77kgs to 88 in 3 month :'( === Jucato tries hard to imagine... using the last UDS photo as a starting point... [01:11] kgs?!?! [01:12] ouch! [01:12] yep, about 22 pounds more [01:12] eek that is... um... well at least you're probably still in shape :) [01:12] girlfriend complaining a bit ;) [01:12] heh === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:12] good morning claydoh :) [01:13] Jucato: let's say I can still hide it, but I have to change that soon [01:13] well, round *is* a shape anyway :) [01:13] router resetting :( [01:13] (heh blog quote :P) [01:13] fixed tho [01:13] claydoh: so what OS are you? :P [01:13] all of them [01:14] heh.. bbspot said I was a Palm O.o [01:14] BeOS of course, but thata wasn't an option [01:14] really it was OS/2 but I was trying to influence the outcome lol [01:14] :P === Tonio_ considers job in england now.... best way to loose weight :) [01:15] hahah === apachelogger [n=me@N808P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] I don't think I've heard os/2 mentioned in the better part of a decade. until now. [01:15] Tonio_: hehe, could be fun === Jucato gets back to reading C++... wonders how to use Umbrello with it... === Jucato can't even consider any job until his grandma dies, which fortunately won't happen in a decade... [01:17] Jucato: why ? [01:17] hard to guess how a grandmother can prevent from working.... ;) === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:17] my current "job" is to watch over the house and her, and make sure she doesn't burn the house down, or hurt herself [01:18] I get a steady allowance of US$ 2 a week! yay! [01:18] :( [01:19] alzheimer ? as my grandfather ? [01:19] woohoo, looks like we manage to get real release party this time here :) [01:19] nah. not alzheimer's... [01:19] she's just stubborn :) [01:19] heh [01:19] she thinks she should and could do stuff she did hm... say, 20-30 years ago? [01:20] well, I have an internet connection, my own PC, and lots of time to study C++, and a laptop soon... so can't really complain :) [01:20] ho as my grandmother then :) [01:29] Jucato: what else would anyone need? ;-) [01:29]