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madmonk|Iwonder|: one ends 1 and the other 212:12
pollyomadmonk: Hope that helps.  I have to run.12:12
|Iwonder|ok12:12
pollyoBBL12:12
madmonkpollyo: ty i'll try12:12
Admiral_ChicagoHasrat_USA: not sure, I don't do networking at all12:12
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Hasrat_USAyeah me either12:12
DrXfirecrotch, the thing is, I have a VM in there that is running & working & I don't want to lose it (too many hours invested)12:12
AloneaHasrat_USA: So far, I lost my 3d accel, because I was trying to figure out why rockbox won't compile. it keeps asking for some gcc stuff that IS installed and I saw an old gcc 9it was 3 i think) and thought maybe i should get rid of it since I had newer versions, but when I put on flgrx it was stupid and used 3 instead of 4 so it uninstalled it and I can't get it back. Also I can't play...12:12
Alonea...music from a cd because my system goes all wonky and I do have DMA on my drive. Also can't shutdown, reboot, etc. with FGLRX on...12:12
AloneaHasrat_USA: all of the #rockbox people are baffled as to why my system wont compile it.12:13
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Hasrat_USAfirst of all, what's rockbox?12:13
Admiral_ChicagoHasrat_USA: free / open firmware for music players12:13
Hasrat_USAin brief12:13
AloneaHasrat_USA: what he said...12:14
Admiral_Chicagogrrrr, Launchpad is timing out on me12:14
AloneaHasrat_USA: its awesome.12:14
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Hasrat_USAand you really need to compile it?12:14
Hasrat_USAwhy did you want to build it from the source?12:14
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AloneaHasrat_USA: Oh, i used patches like album art and insert patch.12:14
AloneaHasrat_USA: So I have to build from source, which I have never had a problem doing before...12:15
Hasrat_USAI have not tested my cd drive to see if it can play audio cds cause i don't have an audio cd lol12:15
Hasrat_USAoh okay12:15
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Hasrat_USAi don't have DMA12:16
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Hasrat_USAhmm lots of issues12:17
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AloneaHasrat_USA: oh yes. I accidentally create problems daily it seems.12:17
Hasrat_USAhoarders would get a pile of money...that's true...hackers that's trueeee12:17
Hasrat_USAcreating problems is fun12:18
AloneaI don't mean to! it just...happens..12:18
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Kr4t05In Bash-scripting, how do you check SUID?12:18
Hasrat_USAAlonea: you seem to be a good hacker12:18
egonwmoin. I have a compile problem with shfs with feisty, when using module-assistent it fails to compile for the 2.6.20 kernel. Ideas?12:19
Hasrat_USAAlonea: how long have you been staying away from that retarded piece of crap called winblows?12:19
AloneaHasrat_USA: hmm, hacker I wouldn't say. More like good with problems relating to computers. Actually, I have only had linux for 2 months, though I was constantly killing windows too. I am a computer science major.12:20
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madmonk|Iwonder|: are u still here?12:20
|Iwonder|yep12:21
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AloneaHasrat_USA: when I get more experienced with code (besides website related stuff and more into C, C++, java) I plan to help out in the rockbox project and other open-source projects12:21
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madmonk|Iwonder|: i'm trying to add my nic as a new zone12:22
|Iwonder|madmonk:  looking now at guarddog12:23
AloneaHasrat_USA: Another reason it took me a while to get linux was due to the fact I didn't have my own computer.12:23
|Iwonder|the zone internet is established12:23
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madmonk|Iwonder|: sorry?12:23
|Iwonder|this is where you are moving data?12:23
|Iwonder|my guarddog came with internet zone allready12:23
Hasrat_USAoh wow12:24
madmonk|Iwonder|: also mine...12:24
Hasrat_USAwhat was the year when you had your own computer?12:24
|Iwonder|this is where you would enable what you want if you are trying to get data from the internet12:24
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madmonk|Iwonder|: yep...but it doesn't work...12:25
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madmonk:(12:25
|Iwonder|perhaps your rule is misconfigured12:25
|Iwonder|a syntax error?12:25
AloneaHasrat_USA: I have only had my won computer for almost a year and before that I was busy with school stuff so didn't do a lot on my computer except for word processing and internet. Finally gained some time and got back into code which was when I got my linux box.12:26
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madmonk|Iwonder|: i don't think so dude...12:26
|Iwonder|k you added new protocol on advanced tab?12:27
madmonkyes12:28
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AloneaHasrat_USA: I also spent some time beta'ing vista and seeing where windows improved and where it didn't. All I know is that I turned off user access control within 5 minutes...12:28
madmonk|Iwonder|: TCP 4662 bidirectional12:28
Hasrat_USAhmm12:28
|Iwonder|that showed up in internet zone,protocols? and is checked?12:28
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madmonk|Iwonder|: and all the others12:29
madmonk|Iwonder|: yes12:29
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Jisaois there a kubuntu doc channel?12:30
eilkerwhat do u do if u forgot your root and user password ??12:30
Hasrat_USAeilker: i try to remember it12:30
|Iwonder|madmonk: look in /var/log12:30
eilkerHasrat_USA> second option ?12:30
|Iwonder|see if there is a guarddog12:30
madmonk|Iwonder|:k12:30
|Iwonder|iplog12:30
Hasrat_USAeilker: in ubuntu?12:30
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|Iwonder|or something like that12:31
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eilkerHasrat_USA> yes ?12:31
johey_What's the name of the tool to make it easy to install nvidia drivers, flash, win32codecs and junk like that? If I remember correctly, there are two different tools, of which one is nice and one is ugly. I want the nice one. :)12:31
Hasrat_USAeilker: if i have physical access to the system, i would just reset it. it's easy12:31
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madmonk|Iwonder|: as usual...iptables is spamming all my logs...12:32
Hasrat_USAjohey_: i know what you're talking about and all of them are ugly :P12:32
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|Iwonder|it say rejected ?12:32
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firecrotchjohey_: you're talking about Automatix2, but I would not use it12:32
johey_Hasrat_USA: I see. Then I'd better go for doing it manually.12:32
firecrotch!automatix | johey_12:33
Jisaoeilker: http://linuxbasics.org/tutorials/advanced/various/forgot_root_password12:33
ubotujohey_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:33
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nosrednaekim!automount12:33
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:33
eilkerjisao: thanx12:33
nosrednaekim!mount12:33
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter12:33
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nosrednaekim!DiskMounter12:33
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse12:33
nosrednaekimI lost automounting....12:33
johey_Okay firecrotch. I install them manually.12:34
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madmonk|Iwonder|:holy crap...now my Kad is ok!!12:34
nosrednaekimin kubuntu edgy...12:34
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u0735710dfasdf12:34
firecrotch!hotplug12:34
madmonk|Iwonder|:but not the ed2k12:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:34
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nosrednaekimyeah...I think it might be HAL but i'm not sure...12:34
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|Iwonder|pmount or hald12:35
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nosrednaekim|Iwonder|: say again?12:35
|Iwonder|pmount or hald or both,depends on kde version12:35
|Iwonder|docs seem to contradict12:35
nosrednaekimso should I check and see if either is runnning?12:36
nosrednaekimyep.... hal is running12:36
madmonk|Iwonder|:DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:36
madmonk|Iwonder|:I added a new zone...called madmonk...in which i put the addresses of my router and my nic...12:37
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nosrednaekimpmount is not running...12:37
madmonk|Iwonder|:now it works great!!!12:37
|Iwonder|you have to creat a zone for what route does?12:38
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madmonk|Iwonder|:so it seems bro!12:38
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|Iwonder|cool\12:38
madmonk|Iwonder|:now it's working!12:38
madmonk|Iwonder|:perfectly working! YaaaY!!!12:39
nosrednaekimok..looks like hal calls pmount to mount the drive that hal detects....I don't think hal is detecting he drive or something12:39
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madmonk|Iwonder|:thank u very much dude!!!!12:40
|Iwonder|yw12:41
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livingdaylightmy wireless card for Desktop died: Anyone know one that works out of the box with Ubuntu?12:47
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evfreshman2025hey can someone help me out?12:47
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Admiral_Chicagoevfreshman2025: you can ask.12:50
Admiral_Chicagonot sure if we can help, we will try12:50
evfreshman2025oh okay12:50
livingdaylight What wireless cards for Desktop come recommended for Ubuntu: i.e. work out of the box12:50
livingdaylightno configuring or naffing12:51
Admiral_Chicagolivingdaylight: intel12:51
Admiral_Chicagooh, tower ?12:51
luis_please  link en spanish12:51
livingdaylightAdmiral_Chicago : not laptop -Desktop12:51
evfreshman2025Ummm for some reason the size of my screen is HUGE, and when i try to make it smaller under "Monitor && Display" it wont let me change the size12:51
luis_link in spanish12:51
luis_.12:51
Admiral_Chicago!es12:51
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:51
Admiral_Chicagoluis_: eso?12:51
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luis_tank12:51
luis_gracias12:51
Admiral_Chicagolivingdaylight: hmm, not sure. my brother got a dlink recently and it works with Ubuntu, no mess12:52
Admiral_Chicagodunno the model though12:52
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evfreshman2025<Admirial_Chicgao> can you help me?12:52
livingdaylightAdmiral_Chicago: dlink, ok, that is what i wanted to hear12:52
|Iwonder|the chipset is whats important12:52
Admiral_Chicagoyup.12:52
SilentMI got a Westell, works well with my D-Link router.12:52
|Iwonder|bcm43xx works12:53
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evfreshman2025okay, so how do i fix it?12:53
Admiral_Chicago|Iwonder|: not all the time12:53
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nosrednaekimevfreshman2025: whats your video chipset?12:53
evfreshman2025im not sure, how do i find out?12:53
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eilkerjisao: do u have experience with it ?12:55
nosrednaekimevfreshman2025: "sudo lshw"12:55
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nosrednaekimeilker: good job ;)12:56
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Ickhi12:56
Icki'm using a german keyboard12:57
Jucatonosrednaekim: no need for sudo afaik "lshw -C display" is enough12:57
Ickthe numpad replaces "." with ","12:57
eilkernosrednaekim> http://linuxbasics.org/tutorials/advanced/various/forgot_root_password trying with this, but no use12:57
Ickis there a way to change it but retain the remainder of the keyboard layout?12:57
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Ickthere are two ways to find out a root password12:57
Ick1. have someone who knows it tell you12:58
evfreshman2025<nosrednaekim> I cant find my Video Chipset12:58
Ick2. i'm just kidding, there's only one12:58
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evfreshman2025this big screen is really annoying12:58
johey_Is beryl broken in latest edgy repository?12:58
nosrednaekimevfreshman2025: it wasn't in that list?12:58
|Iwonder|evfreshman2025: lspci12:58
nosrednaekimevfreshman2025: "lspci | grep VGA"12:58
eilkerjohey_> it is not good12:58
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eilkerjohey_> i downgraded12:58
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johey_eilker: What is not good?12:58
eilkerjohey_> last beryl package in edgy repo...12:59
zazaguys, does anyone know the modified version of the firefox name? which got no cairo support?12:59
nosrednaekimbon echo?12:59
nosrednaekimor iceweasel?12:59
evfreshman2025this is what i got:12:59
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evfreshman2025Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)12:59
johey_eilker: Okay. Can I install an older version using apt, or do I have to download the files and dpkg install them?01:00
DrXany opinions on backing up an offline block device with dd, dd_rescue, bacula, or simple backup?01:00
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nosrednaekimevfreshman2025: ok....I don't recognize that chipset...01:01
eilkerjohey_>i am not sure but i think i used  trevino's repo for it, i have problem with my system , so that i am not able to say to you the repo01:01
nosrednaekimbut its an intel.... so maybe you should install "915resolutio"n01:01
evfreshman2025so you cant help me by somehow making my screen size smaller?01:01
nosrednaekim*915resolution01:01
evfreshman2025the little tab that moves it is like stuck01:01
johey_eilker: Okay. Thanks anyway!01:01
|Iwonder|evfreshman2025: just do lspci look for anythging agp or vga related01:01
eilkerjohey_> good luck01:02
|Iwonder|maybe lspci|less01:02
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evfreshman2025compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE C01:03
evfreshman2025hipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)01:03
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nosrednaekim|Iwonder|: we already did that, look above01:03
|Iwonder|you greped VGA01:03
evfreshman2025yeah, so this kinda sorta maybe sucks01:04
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|Iwonder|you will only get results for VGA01:04
nosrednaekim|Iwonder|: well, isn't that a video card right there?01:04
|Iwonder|it is possible you need agp modules to get your xorg to work properly01:04
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evfreshman2025My screen size is 640x480 and i need it smaller01:04
|Iwonder|] for instance i use apg-64 and radeon01:05
evfreshman2025and the tab that makes it Bigger or Smaller wont budge01:05
|Iwonder|or something like thyat01:05
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|Iwonder|evfreshman2025:  that usually means your xorg.conf is wrong and you have only one resolution avaiable01:06
evfreshman2025So i cant change it AT ALL!?01:06
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|Iwonder|try ctrl+alt+plus sign key01:07
evfreshman2025ctrl+alt+plus sign key didnt do anything at all01:07
nosrednaekimevfreshman2025: pastebin your xorg.conf01:07
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evfreshman2025wait....huh!?01:08
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nosrednaekim!pastebin01:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:08
nosrednaekimput your /etc/X11/xorg.conf there01:09
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evfreshman2025put /etc/X11/xorg.conf under pastebin?01:09
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dettoaltrimenti_what is ghostscript, and do I need it on my computer?01:10
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nosrednaekimevfreshman2025: read that file with a " kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the contents of that file in the pastebin01:10
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wolferineneed a hand with apache setup, anyone have a few mins?01:11
wolferinei want to create a www/ dir in my /usernam01:11
wolferineand host from there01:12
wolferineso do I need to edit apache.conf, or create a new .conf for that user?01:12
|Iwonder|edit01:12
|Iwonder|there is a line that allows ~user01:12
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wolferinei dont want ~user, i dont think01:13
|Iwonder|then edit conf source directory to where u want01:13
|Iwonder|root directory i believe it is termed01:13
wolferineso I have to edit the apache.conf01:13
|Iwonder|yes01:13
wolferineand make the root dir my /user/www01:13
wolferinek01:13
|Iwonder|yes01:14
wolferinewhere is the apache files at again?01:14
wolferineand how to I start/restart services?01:14
|Iwonder|depends on distro01:14
|Iwonder|mine are in /etc/apache01:14
wolferineyeah01:14
wolferinesame here01:14
johey_!sensors01:14
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto01:14
wolferinedo I have to edit it as sudo ?01:15
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|Iwonder|yes or apache and it shouldn't allow the latter01:15
|Iwonder|if it does fix it01:15
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wolferineand services?01:16
wolferinehow do I restart apache?01:16
dougbhow do you change the KDE time to standard time and not military time01:17
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ozgurselam millet01:17
wolferinecan u use %h:%m:%s anywhere dougb ?01:18
ozgurbana yardmc olucak birini aryom ya01:18
Jucatoozgur: English please01:18
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Jucatodougb: right-click on the clock -> Date & Time Format01:19
ozgurwannt you cann help me?01:19
wolferineozgur> try /j #kbuntu-** Your area **01:19
eilkerozgur: yes01:19
ozgurthanks01:19
wolferineor /j #ubuntu-**01:19
ozgurnow01:19
eilker!tr01:19
rooobwhat is the best channel to get help trying to build kde4 from svn? (for some reason cmake cant find my libungif libs!)01:19
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.01:19
ozgurm kubuntu01:20
Jucatorooob: #kde4-devel01:20
eilkerozgur: ingilizce yaz / we try to help01:20
ozgureilker01:20
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ozgurtrke biliyonmu?01:21
eilkerozgur: yes01:21
Tm_Trooob: I'll help you there01:21
ozguriyi01:21
ozgurbana yardmc olursan sevinirim01:21
Jisaosorry eilker, you were saying?01:21
meme-1Hey folks, Is there a way to save a channel list in Konversation? It's pretty slow to have to d/l each time. *OR* is there a better IRC program for Linux (ubuntu)? I don't see MIRC in Synaptic (my fav. for Windows OS).01:21
eilkerozgur: ubuntu-tr 'ye gel01:21
NightBirdmeme-1: mIRC is windows only, though wine runs it just fine01:22
ozguru an ordaymda kimse yok01:22
eilkerjisao: do u have experience with it ?01:22
Admiral_Chicagomeme-1: file server list01:22
Admiral_Chicagoi run irssi myself though01:22
JisaoWith what,  changing the root?01:22
wolferinehow do you restart services?01:23
eilkerjisao: yeah i add single init=/bin/bash to kernel line nothing happens ?01:23
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JisaoI haven't used the init trick, I chrooted from a livecd.01:23
meme-1Admiral_Chicago: file server list?  I want to save the channel list so I don't have to reload it each time I start up Konversation.01:24
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meme-1NightBird: I'd rather not use Wine... Native Linux is preferred. Is there a better IRC client for Linux?01:24
eilkerJisao> it is on wmware :(01:24
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Admiral_Chicagomeme-1: sec....01:25
JisaoOh. just a sec.01:25
meme-1What IRC client are you folks using?01:25
Admiral_Chicagolaunch konversation, go to edit01:25
Admiral_Chicagomeme-1: irssi01:26
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Jisaoxchat01:26
wolferinememe-1, xchat, its the best01:26
eilkermeme-1> konversation01:26
meme-1thx for the suggestions... I am hoping to find something, at least, nearly as full featured as MIRC.01:26
Admiral_Chicagowho needs a GUI anyways01:27
|Iwonder|meme-1: kvirc01:27
wolferinehmmm, I wouldnt agree with you there meme-101:27
wolferineif your looking for another mirc, you might not be happy01:27
meme-1Admiral_Chicago: If I didn't care about a GUI, I'd still be using my old TRS-80 Model III! LOL01:27
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wolferinehow about a great IRC client, now thats what you need01:28
eilkerAdmiral_Chicago> forza non-gui , but i like 3d too :lol:01:28
Jisaoeilker, the only thing I can suggest is try asking on this list. Quite a few people use vmware: http://linuxbasics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/qna01:28
|Iwonder|meme-1:  eveyone has a need and opinion,check each out for your own01:28
JisaoThe resident vmware gurus are not on the channel right now :-(01:28
|Iwonder|i prefer kvirc ,it seems as near mirc as far as scripting abilitys01:28
meme-1YEP! That is what I'm going to do. :-)01:28
meme-1I am a certified VMWARE person. :-)01:29
meme-1ESX and Windows more specifically.01:29
wolferinecertified?01:30
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|Iwonder|i also like irssi but if i got X i feel i should use a gui01:30
meme-1wolferine: yes... VCP01:30
meme-1Everything has a title these days. lol01:31
wolferinehmm01:31
wolferinenever would have thought01:31
frutaxAdept is telling me that I won't be able to change any thing b/c some instance of apt is open...which of these processes should I kill in KSysGuard?: adept_notifier or apt-index-watch?01:31
wolferineok, need some more spoon feeding with this apache install01:31
meme-1Heck... I'm now studing the Linux + course.01:31
meme-1There is also RHCP01:31
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digital!beryl01:32
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:32
wolferineFedora you mean?01:32
JohnFluxfrutax: any synaptic process?01:32
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frutaxJohnFlux, what would they look like?01:32
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meme-1I hate Beryl.... well more accurately, I hate my Intel video card which won't allow me to start Beryl!01:32
JohnFluxfrutax: the process would be called synaptic01:32
JohnFluxfrutax: i mean ;-)01:32
JohnFluxmeme-1: wait for kde4 :-)01:33
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frutaxJohnFlux, ok i thought maybe it wasn't that obvious, yeah definitely no synaptic processes running01:33
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Kr4t05Ok... I have a question.01:34
eilkermeme-1> i810 here, and works perfect01:34
JohnFluxfrutax: it would be safe enough to kill the two processes you mentioned01:34
|Iwonder|frutax: look for dpkg also01:34
frutaxJohnFlux, |Iwonder|, thanks I'll check it out01:34
Kr4t05Well, nevermind...01:35
wolferinedoes kubuntu blcok services, if a server is not running?01:35
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wolferineblock*01:35
JohnFluxwolferine: what does that mean? :)01:36
eilkerwolferine> what do u mean ?01:36
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meme-1eilker: think that is what I have. What was your secret?01:36
JohnFluxwolferine: there's no default firewall setup01:36
eilkermeme-1> from which repo did u instal it ?01:36
|Iwonder|who asked about the funny intel chipset earlier01:36
|Iwonder|"Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"01:36
wolferinesay I run an FTP server, apache, and and xdcc bot01:36
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wolferineand I port scan, to find that 21 and 80 are open01:37
wolferineand thats it01:37
wolferinehow do I open the other port?01:37
Jisaoeilker, you still there?01:37
eilkerjisao: yes here i am01:37
JohnFluxwolferine: what port does the xdcc bot run on?01:37
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wolferinelets say 99901:37
Jisaothere is somebody on #lbo who knows vmware, if you're interested.01:37
frutaxok my problem was not fixed, but the error message says that another program is using the packaging system database, and its not apt or synaptic, what could it be?01:37
JohnFluxwolferine: you don't need to open it or anything01:38
JohnFluxwolferine: it should just be there01:38
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wolferineto send files, I need to open ports, same as running services01:38
eilkerJisao> i know vmware too, but my problem to get back my password without using liveCD01:38
wolferineok, ill see if "its just there "01:38
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JohnFluxwolferine: there's no firewall01:38
JohnFluxwolferine: so all ports are 'open'01:38
wolferinecorrect, no firewall01:38
|Iwonder|frutax:  in console type apt-get install <whatever you are installing> it should give you a command01:39
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wolferineno, not all ports are open, if I do a port scan, I only find the services running (unless that means the other ports are open, just not active) ?01:39
JohnFluxwolferine: whatever wording you want :-)01:40
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NightBirdon kubuntu there are no active servers on a default install, so no ports should be listining...01:40
frutax|Iwonder|, it gave this error: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.01:40
frutaxshould i try that/01:40
JohnFluxfrutax: try it01:40
|Iwonder|wolferine: the server will "open" ports01:40
|Iwonder|for instance in mirc when you set your dcc ports to 2050-2055,when started netstat -l will show them in listen01:40
NightBirdfrutax: oh, has adept stoped working?01:40
wolferinethis isnt a default install01:40
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frutaxNightBird, yes01:41
|Iwonder|yes frutax01:41
JohnFlux|Iwonder|: don't put funny chars in your nick01:41
NightBirdfrutax: yes, that's one of the commands you need to do...01:41
wolferineu mean it will listen on ports (required by the app)01:41
JohnFlux|Iwonder|: it's hard to tab complete01:41
NightBird!adeptcrashed01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrashed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
Jisaosuit yourself, eilker. I just thought he could come with answers with your questions.01:41
wolferinewhile(true) { listen(80); }01:41
|Iwonder|frutax:  that happens to me a lot if adept crashes/hangs01:42
NightBirdwolferine: most servers are a bit more complex than that :P01:42
wolferineobviously :)01:42
eilkerJisao> thank you so much01:42
frutaxthanks guys i think im well on the way to fixing this now, it was a problem with the java installation01:42
JohnFluxwolferine: a server will open a port, yes01:42
JohnFluxwolferine: and listen on it01:42
NightBird?adept crash01:42
|Iwonder|wolferine:  what are you trying to do?01:43
NightBirdhm...01:43
Compleja!es01:43
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:43
NightBirdfrutax: these are the commands: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a01:43
NightBird!adept crash01:43
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB01:43
NightBird!adeptfix01:43
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:43
wolferineone more thing01:43
NightBirdthere it is01:43
wolferineis I do address to http://localhost/~username01:43
wolferinethen what do I have to create in the users dir?01:44
wolferinea /public_html or a /.www ?01:44
NightBirdprobably /public_html01:44
wolferinek01:44
NightBirdif apache was configured to do it that way that is01:44
wolferineoh, so its just in the .conf01:44
wolferinek, thanks01:44
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JohnFluxwolferine: yeah it's in userdir.conf01:45
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wolferineok, thanks01:46
dsmith_Windows named most secure OS by Symantec01:46
dsmith_Hmmmmmmm01:46
dsmith_yea right...01:46
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=== Compleja buenas
|Iwonder|roflmao01:47
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wolferineok, next question01:49
wolferineto get php and mysql to work together, is there an easy test?01:50
wolferineor app to look at the mysql db?01:50
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mervteckcan someone help me setting my frequency on my desktop its an AMD X2 4600 and its only being reported as 1000mhz, when its a 2.401:54
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Aloneasomeone mentioned that you can get a free version of cedega somewhere?01:57
Jucato!cedega01:58
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:58
Jucatocedega cvs01:58
AloneaJucato: umm, where is a page that says what the cvs link is?01:59
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JucatoAlonea: check that help page above. I'm not familiar with it02:00
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AloneaJucato: oh, there it is. Too bad they dont use subversion...i prefer it over CVS.02:00
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premjithhaaaaaaaai02:08
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meme-1Hello folks, I am trying to install kvirc through Synaptic and I am getting the following error: "02:20
meme-1Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kvirc/kvirc-data_3.2.4-3ubuntu1_all.deb02:20
meme-1  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)02:20
meme-1Suggestions?02:21
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Tm_Tlocalhost?02:22
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meme-1"Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). "02:23
meme-1not sure about that.02:23
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Tm_Tyes, I wonder why it tries connect to localhost02:24
Tm_Ttoo tired to think, good night kids and remember to be nice! ->02:24
meme-1I see no settings in Synaptic that would allow that.  Good night.02:25
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meme-1Strange! I am trying to "reload package information" in Synaptic and every repository is erroring out with: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"02:28
meme-1any thoughts?02:28
meme-1Can I buy a clue?02:28
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meme-1Synaptic worked until about yesterday.02:28
meme-1No changes that I am aware of.02:28
jhutchinsmeme-1: Either you are having some serious DNS problems or your source configuration is messed up.02:29
jhutchinsmeme-1: Can you ping/browse that url?"02:29
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meme-1jhutchins: Okay... something might be wrong.... FYI - you are the ONLY person communicating in this channel now. Is this correct?02:30
meme-1All I see are people leaving and reconnecting now.02:31
meme-1No other chats02:31
jhutchinsTm_T: @ 1:24 GMT but yeah.02:31
jhutchinsmeme-1: If you're seeing join/part messages, you know you're at least connected to the server.02:31
Aloneai am here02:31
meme-1jhutchins: okay... thought my problem was something more... I'll try pinging said site.02:31
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meme-1Got quiet for a while.... :-)02:32
Aloneathat it did02:32
AloneaI am trying to install cedega02:32
meme-1no trouble pinging us.archive.ubuntu.com02:33
jhutchins!easysources02:33
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:33
jhutchinsmeme-1: try sudo apt-get update in a console.02:33
jhutchinsmeme-1: You _should_ get the same error.02:34
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meme-1jhutchins: same error02:34
meme-1errors02:35
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meme-1the oddest part is: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)02:35
jhutchinsOk, I think you need to regenerate your source lists.  Have a look at the URL above.02:35
meme-1thx... will try that.02:36
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jhutchinshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine may help as well.02:37
Aloneaoh, and anyone know how I can get my fglrx to reinstall? as far as I know I have uninstalled everything, but I can't get it to install again...02:37
hothhow do I add a vpn from ubuntu to a windows firewall02:37
jhutchinsmeme-1: Getting it working from the command lie basically means (at least) one less thing to go wrong.02:37
jhutchinshoth: You may find kvpnrc useful.02:38
Aloneabash ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy ---this is where my install fails. I will get an output as soon as the pastebin site I use starts working again..bah02:38
hoththanks where do I find it?02:38
jhutchinshoth: You may also be thinking of something you might do with rdesktop or tightvnc.02:38
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jhutchinshoth: Should be in the apt repositories.02:39
jhutchins(all of the above)02:39
hothI can run VNC after but need to authicate to the firewall first02:39
jhutchinshoth: Probably the first one then.02:39
meme-1Can someone please tell me where sources.list is located?02:40
stdinmeme-1: /etc/apt/02:40
meme-1thank you02:40
jhutchinshoth: There's a way to set it up from the console using diald so it automatically connects, but I haven't botherd with that myself.02:40
hothshows 0 packages listed for that name02:40
jhutchinsmeme-1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine may help as well.02:40
jhutchinshoth: Hmmm...02:40
jhutchinshoth: Try kvpnc02:41
Aloneaok, can someone else try http://pastebin.ca and see if it loads?02:41
Aloneaor give me another pastebin that works02:41
jhutchinsAlonea: pastebin.ca's notorious. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/02:42
Aloneahmm, I always preferred the ca over others...first time it hasnt worked for me.02:42
jhutchinsAlonea: Dead from here as well.02:42
hothJhutchins  Thanks!!! found it02:42
meme-1Darn permissions! How do I save to the apt folder when I can't change the permissions on that folder.02:43
stdinyou can always use http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/ :)02:43
jhutchinshoth: Sorry, dyslexics untie!02:43
jhutchinsmeme-1: Use sudo to do the edit/save.02:43
meme-1ah... thanks02:43
jhutchinsor kdesu02:43
stdinmeme-1: if you want to edit the sources.list file, press Alt-F2 and type in: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:44
jhutchinsmeme-1: You've really caught on to this whole unix thing pretty quick!02:44
hothJhutchins:  you be the mna02:44
jhutchinshoth: Nah, just a page or two ahead.02:44
Aloneaumm, it keeps saying I am spamming...02:45
meme-1jhutchins: thx... but not quick enough... I did used to be a 11/780 operator back in the old, old days.02:45
Aloneaok, there it goes02:46
Aloneahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/02:46
jhutchinsmeme-1: Started out on a System 370 myself.02:46
Aloneathing is, it installed fine before, but after I messed up and adept got rid of it, I have not been able to reinstall it02:47
jhutchinsAlonea: I presume if you've gotten that far you already know about the following:02:47
jhutchins!ati02:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:47
hothjhutchins: Thanks, but when I put in a dns name I do not see a connect button do I need an IP address or are you unfamiliar and I should go on?02:47
jhutchins'fraid I can't.02:48
Aloneajhutchins: i know, its the install I have been using02:48
jhutchinsHang on a sec...02:48
Aloneajhutchins: it was perfectly fine until adept accidentally uninstalled it all...stupid thing.02:48
jhutchinsKernel probably got updated.02:48
Aloneajhutchins: ?02:48
Aloneait got uninstalled when I got rid of the older gcc thing02:49
jhutchinshoth: My version requires that I create a profile for each site.02:49
jhutchinsAlonea: Oh.  Hm, that may be part of the problem.02:49
meme-1Something is seriously wrong. Same errors.... but since my list is bigger now... I just get more errors now.02:49
jhutchinsAlonea: There are a number of components required to build stuff.  Perhaps build-essentials might help?02:49
Aloneajhutchins: its SUPPOSED to use 4, but it used 3 the first time around and i didn't know it02:49
hoth jhutchins: thanks I'll try that02:49
jhutchinsmeme-1: apt-get has the same problem?02:50
jhutchinsmeme-1: It's almost like it wants to connect to the local CD.02:50
Aloneajhutchins: I got them all, there is a command at the beginning to install anything you are missing. I redid it. Nothing works. Thing is. I got this on my 64 bit version too, except all the folders were 64 instead of i386 thing02:50
jhutchinsmeme-1: I don't know enough about apt to help at this point.02:50
stdinmeme-1: what's the problem?02:50
jhutchinsOk, you both need someone deeper 'n me, I'm out.02:51
Aloneaso I went back to 32 bit system where I know it will install correctly02:51
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Aloneaand now its all messed up and don't know how to fix it...02:51
meme-1jhutchins: you know more than you think! ha ha "t's almost like it wants to connect to the local CD."  I pulled the DVD (ubuntu install DVD) last night! ha ha02:51
meme-1stdin: I believe jhutchins solved the problem!02:51
meme-1I just unchecked the "download from CDROM option" in synaptic!02:52
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romeo_Where can i change the colors of things listed? For exampel.. If i have several things listed.. I get 2 colors.. Grey background with white text.. and then white background with white text.. then grey and so on.. Any idea how to fix that?02:54
meme-1Nope.. that did not work. uncheck, then rechecked and placed the DVD back in... still get same error.02:55
meme-1stdin:  I am trying to "reload package information" in Synaptic and every repository is erroring out with: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"02:55
stdinmeme-1: DNS issue02:55
meme-1stdin: everything else works (such as IRC)02:55
meme-1Also... web, FTP, and News02:56
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Jucatoromeo_: System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors, then from the dropdown list, select Alternate background in lists02:57
stdinmeme-1: well apt seems to think that us.archive.ubuntu.com is your local host02:57
meme-1I can also ping those failing addresses.02:57
romeo_Jucato: Thanks a million02:57
Jucatoromeo_: you're welcome a million times over as well :)02:58
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stdinmeme-1: does "sudo apt-get update" show the same errors?02:58
meme-1What is the equivalent to Window's "etc\hosts" on Linux?02:58
romeo_Jucato: Haha =)02:58
Jucato /etc/hosts02:58
stdinmeme-1: /etc/hosts where else :P02:58
Jucatomeme-1: you can browse the web?02:59
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meme-1stdin: let me try one moment.   ha ha same place... cool something I don't need to re-learn.02:59
Jucatohm.. why is apt looking at localhost in the first place? O.o02:59
romeo_Any other filebrowser then konqueror?02:59
meme-1Jucato: yes... everything else seems to work perfectly. Synaptic is the only app not behaving.02:59
hothTalk about people that rush right in I missed the profile setting completly. Thanks for all the help03:00
meme-1stdin: sudo apt-get update gave same errors03:00
stdinhumm03:01
Aloneadoes anything think the #ati people could help me with this?03:01
stdinmeme-1: do you use a router, or direct connection?03:01
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meme-1router... but that would affect things globally.03:02
meme-1hosts files look fine too.03:03
meme-1Is there any configuration that perhaps I am overlooking in Synaptic?03:03
meme-1Like I said earlier.... it worked find until yesterday.03:04
meme-1Darnit! All I wanted to do was install a better IRC app.03:04
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stdinmeme-1: you say you can ping us.archive.ubuntu.com? is it pinging 91.189.89.8 (or 91.189.88.31 or 91.189.89.8) or is it pinging 127.0.0.1?03:04
meme-1stdin: just to be sure... one moment03:05
DarkEDi want to get Beryl running on Kubuntu 6.10, anyone know a good guide or a good place to start?03:05
stdin!beryl03:05
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:05
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meme-1It resolves as:  (91.189.89.8)03:05
meme-1so that is working!03:05
meme-1It seems specifically relating to Synaptic!03:06
romeo_Alonea: What are you trying todo, install your ati graphic card?03:06
DarkEDstdin: i know what beryl is - i need a guide to get it running on KDE03:06
meme-1Cwazy Wabbit!03:06
DarkEDstdin: all the guides i have seen are for Gnome03:06
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Alonearomeo_: well, it WAS installed perfectly...until adept removed the fglrx stuff and killed it.03:06
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stdinDarkED: there really isn't a difference03:06
DarkEDstdin: ok then, thanks03:07
JucatoDarkED: those links and that channel has pages/links that also have KDE-specific guides03:07
stdinmeme-1: but apt-get is failing too, which means that it's not just synaptic03:07
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romeo_Alonea: Ugh.. Why did it remove fglrx? Have you tried Envy? Worked flawlesly for me. Just used it, and it automatically downloaded everything needed and installed it automatically! Extremly recommended03:07
underdog5004anyone had trouble d'ling from the us repositories?03:07
stdinmeme-1: you have adept don#t you?03:07
underdog5004I had to change all us references to ca in my sources.list03:08
meme-1stdin: forgot about apt-get03:08
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meme-1stdin: adept?  If I don't know what that is... probably not. :-)03:08
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stdinmeme-1: it's installed by default in kubuntu03:08
romeo_How can i clear my cache? I got loads of files i downloaded (rar files for exampel etc).. andis it safe?03:09
Alonearomeo_: never heard of it. what is it? and I have no idea why it removed it. It did without telling me. I was tring to figure out why rockbox wasn't seeing the gcc, so I removed the older version, and with it, it removed flgrx (which is supposed to use 4 anyways...)03:09
meme-1stdin: where is it located?03:09
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stdinmeme-1: KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager03:09
romeo_!envy | Alonea03:09
ubotuAlonea: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia03:09
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romeo_Alonea: Its some kind of software.. install it, then run it.. and it will do EVERYTHING. from installing/updating. I did it the first thing i did when i installed kubuntu. Worked like a charm.. I remember first time i tried manually. Pain in the ass03:10
meme-1stdin: nope )-:03:11
meme-1stdin: what folder location? .... I'll try to find it manually.03:11
Alonearomeo_: how do you run a .deb file? never really seen them before...03:12
stdinmeme-1: the command is adept_manager (in /usr/bin/)03:12
stdin!deb | Alonea03:12
ubotuAlonea: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)03:12
romeo_Alonea: If you do it in the termnial. its dpkg -i debfile..03:13
stdin*sudo ^03:13
romeo_Sudo! Yeah03:13
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meme-1stdin: I am afraid all that begins with ad* is addr2line03:14
DaSkreechtackat: Hello03:14
stdinmeme-1: you installed kubuntu right?03:14
romeo_Can someone explain one thing for me? How come i can't turn off my pc or restart it when using linux? I have to click the power button for it to turn off.. Secondly i am wondering.. when Kubuntu is about to run it gives me a quick (less then 1 second) view of like PCI missing (4 rows if that).. Any idea what that might be?03:15
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meme-1stdin: long explaination.. begin life as ubuntu... then became kubuntu after a number of educational programs were installed. Actually, I am running with Gnome now... perhaps that explains everything.03:15
meme-1stdin: sorry.03:15
romeo_Alonea: How's it going?03:16
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stdinmeme-1: it explains why you don't have adept, but not why resolving isn't working03:16
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meme-1stdin: should have mentioned this earlier... esp. when you gave me a kde menu.03:16
Alonearomeo_: envy is doing its thing. if this works, I may kiss you.03:16
stdinmeme-1: have you  tried restarting networking? bit of a long shot tho03:17
romeo_Alonea: Trust me, I was about to kiss the person that told me abou it. So easy and fast. and you just have to click once or twice.03:17
meme-1stdin: in the Windows world... one solution is rebooting.  how about that? :-)03:17
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stdinmeme-1: no point, restarting networking may do it03:17
Alonearomeo_: yeah. I just hope I dont get black screen and maybe this time I can actually shut down my computer normally.03:18
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stdinmeme-1: just do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"03:18
romeo_Alonea: I cant even shut down my laptop.. Kubuntu is really weird03:18
meme-1stdin: I'll try that03:18
stdinmeme-1: if that doesn't work, then maybe reboot :P03:18
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|DKP|Shiyanevening03:19
meme-1bye for now... be back as meme-2 I guess. :-)03:19
Alonearomeo_: its because of the flgrx. its a bug...make a button with the command 'sudo init 0' and that will shut it down03:19
|DKP|Shiyanis it not possible to run dual monitors in kubuntu?03:20
meme-1stdin: hmmm.... not as dramatic as I predicted... meaning I don't think that did anything! I see a lot of errors, "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"03:20
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stdinmeme-1: are you on a wireless network?03:20
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Alonearomeo_: or just do it in the terminal of course. also, how do I know if it worked? do I do fglrxinfo like before after restarting?03:20
stdin!dualhead | |DKP|Shiyan03:20
ubotu|DKP|Shiyan: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama03:20
meme-1stdin: no... I'm wired.03:21
|DKP|Shiyanthanks03:21
romeo_Alonea: Yeah, thats what i did.. Other than that I have no idea.. The sudo init 0.. Thats for making it restart/power off?03:21
stdinmeme-1: do you even have a wireless interface?03:21
Alonearomeo_: it will shutdown..forgot number for restart...03:21
meme-1stdin: no... pretty standard Intel computer. Nothing odd in this config.03:21
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stdinAlonea, romeo_: 6 will restart03:21
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Aloneathere we go03:22
romeo_stdin: Ah thanks =)03:22
Aloneaok, will brb03:22
romeo_However, Alonea,I am not even 1 week old linux user. So i have no idea whatsoever how to make a button to shutdown03:22
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stdinmeme-1: seems that you have wlan defined too :P, oh well, check it apt-get is working now03:22
Aloneaok, right click on your K menu and click on edit item03:22
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AloneaGoto File, new and then name it something like shutdown03:23
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romeo_Alonea: Ok and now?03:24
meme-1stdin: I just gave you that very last part... didn't notice the wlan...03:24
meme-1stdin:03:24
meme-1SIOCSIFADDR: No such device03:24
meme-1eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device03:24
meme-1eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device03:24
meme-1Bind socket to interface: No such device03:24
meme-1Failed to bring up eth1.03:24
meme-1There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth2.pid with pid 13499341603:24
AloneaUnder Command but in what I told you. You can change the icon too, to something like the power symbol under actions I think03:24
Alonea*put03:24
Tm_T!pastebin | meme-103:24
ubotumeme-1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:24
romeo_Alonea: Thanks alot03:24
meme-1Tm_T: thx03:24
Omnifrog:)03:24
stdinmeme-1: how many network interfaces do you have?03:25
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Alonearomeo_: no problem. it might bring up the terminal for the password, but at least it works..I used to get it to where I didn't have to but I forgot how I did it03:25
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meme-1stdin: just one actually.03:25
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stdinmeme-1: pastebin the output of netstat (in konsole)03:26
meme-1stdin: This is basically an Intel box with no additional peripherals.03:26
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PStryderOk, trying to install java jre, and the command line window displays a EULA for sun java, and then all I can do is escape to close it, and the damned thing comes up again.  What do I do on this command line splash screen?03:26
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stdinPStryder: in adept ?03:27
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PStryderusing apt-get to correct broken dependencies.03:27
babagwhen i su in konsole it asks for password. install never asked me to set one up.03:27
DarkEDi'm having a problem with KDE ... it just locks up. i can still move the mouse but i cant click on anything, and the little bouncing icon stops moving and stays at the same place on the desktop even after i move my mouse03:27
malwhat's the best way to diagnose a slow internet connection?03:27
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DarkEDit's like it is trying to process something in the background03:28
stdinPStryder: press enter to read the licence, then use tab and enter to accept it03:28
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JucatoPStryder: where is this happening? wi/ adept? on what Kubuntu version?03:28
babag'authentication failure' if i put in my user password or leave it blank.03:28
DarkEDi tried Alt+F1'ing into a shell but i cant do that either03:28
PStryderThanks stdin03:28
DarkEDit's like the entire system is locked except for my mouse03:28
Aloneaok, back, now how do I exactly find out if I have 3d accel now romeo_ ?03:28
JucatoDarkED: Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?03:28
DarkEDJucato: ill try it03:29
PStryderI hate command line displayed guis.03:29
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JucatoDarkED: when you're on X, Ctrl+Alt+F1 gets you to the shell (same as Alt+F1 if you're already on a shell)03:29
PStryderIn the meantime, I'm looking for a good program to download all the images from a web site.03:29
PStryderharvestman won't accept my command line inputs03:29
PStryderany suggestions?03:29
stdinbabag: use sudo, sudo -u user -i (to login as them) or just "sudo su user", it asks for a password, use YOUR password03:30
babaghow do i set up a password for su?03:30
babagdoh!03:30
JucatoPStryder: try kget, enable Konqueror integration, then Konqueror's Tools menu -> Download Manager -> Show all link?03:30
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Aloneanope. romeo_ , I dont have 3d acceleration. gl screensavers skip.03:31
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Jucato!sudo | babag03:31
ubotubabag: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:31
DarkEDok, that didnt work03:31
DarkEDit seems my keyboard also goes dead when it happens03:31
DarkEDthe only thing that works is my mouse and i cant do anything with it, so ...03:31
PStryderCan I just say how much I freaking LOVE Kunbuntu!03:31
romeo_Alonea: Weird..03:32
Jucatobtw PStryder, don't install Java using Adept unless you are on Kubuntu 7.10 (Feisty, which is still in beta)03:32
romeo_Alonea: fglrxinfo gives you?03:32
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DaSkreechPStryder: try wget03:33
Alonearomeo_: command not found03:33
babagwhat this is really about is trying to install firefox03:33
Aloneababag: install firefox through repo.03:33
meme-1stdin: sorry for taking so long... results of netstat : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11597/03:33
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babagtried add/remove programs but it's grayed out03:34
PStryderJucato...I already did...that's why I had to use apt-get on the command line.03:34
PStryderIt broke Adept.03:34
romeo_Alonea: Meaning you dont have fglrx.. That is indeed weird. As Envy does i think per autmatic install it03:34
stdinmeme-1: should have asked before, can you post ifconfig too ?03:34
JucatoPStryder: Adept is broken as it is (at least until Feisty)03:34
Alonearomeo_: i think there were errors..lemme paste whole thing on pastebin03:35
Alonea!pastebin03:35
DaSkreechbabag: press Alt+Space03:35
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DaSkreechbabag: type adept03:35
DaSkreechbabag: press enter03:35
yanx007I have a little question here...03:36
underdog5004yanx007, what's up?03:36
yanx007hi underdog!03:37
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PStryderdoes gwget work in KDE?03:37
underdog5004hi...03:37
PStryderjucato - so far I like Adept, just the one java install issue.03:37
yanx007I have a VERY weird question here...03:37
babagsays 'mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb' is installed03:37
underdog5004ok03:37
yanx007How do your read/write a floppy on /etc/fstab?03:37
underdog5004PStryder, have you tried synaptic yet?03:37
meme-1stdin: appended to original paste. Thanks for the assistance03:37
underdog5004yanx007, uh...03:37
Aloneadamn! it wont let me scroll up to the beginning. just a little bit. How do I get it all?03:37
babagif i type 'mozilla-firefox' in konsole it's unknown03:37
yanx007I mean mount it.03:37
underdog5004yanx007, lemme google for that one03:37
JucatoPStryder: java, flash, and vmware-player are affected. you'll love the new adept on feisty :)03:37
PStrydernope...how is synaptic?  I just need the jpegs off this site.03:38
romeo_Alonea: Try Ctrl+A?03:38
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yanx007ok.03:38
underdog5004yanx007, oh, sudo mount /dev/fd003:38
underdog5004I think03:38
PStryderAny idea on how the upgrade from edgy to fiesty is?03:38
yanx007Thanks it does the trick but not on read/write. Thanks anyway!03:38
underdog5004yanx007, hmmm, sudo mount -rw /dev/fd003:38
underdog5004?03:38
JucatoPStryder: don't worry. it will be practically point and click when the time comes03:38
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stdinmeme-1: ok, that looks fine there03:39
PStryderSweet...how's the beta?  Worth using, or is it still nightmarish?03:39
PStryderI'm a tech, but just making the move for good off Windows and I have only one PC.03:39
underdog5004yanx007, did that work?03:39
Alonearomeo_: nope..03:39
babagmy adept view also seems to only show installed soft, even though view settings set to show both installed and not03:39
meme-1stdin: exactly... pretty straightforward... but where's the bug? Perhaps I should try rebooting.03:39
JucatoPStryder: ok so far. daily updates, some things still not working properly03:39
stdinmeme-1: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf and post that to pastebin, it may be something wrong in there03:40
romeo_Alonea: Then i dont know.. You got errors ?03:40
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yanx007to underdog, it does the trick but not the read/write. But THanks!03:40
underdog5004damn, sorry03:40
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Alonearomeo_: i though I saw some above, but I cant see them now...03:40
yanx007That'S ok. FLoppies are obsolete anyway.03:40
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romeo_cant you shift + uparrow ?03:41
PStryderDamn...kget almost immediately gets interrupted.03:41
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meme-1stdin: whoa! I know enough about networking to know that "nameserver 192.168.0.1" is probably not correct!03:42
yanx007Thanks underdog! How long have u been using Kubuntu?03:42
meme-1but... the addresses are still resolving though03:42
stdinmeme-1: that's probably the IP of your router03:42
meme-1stdin: yes...03:42
stdinmeme-1: is there anything else in there?03:42
bxnpit could be the local dns server from your router03:42
meme-1stdin: I think I jumped to conclusions... too quickly.03:43
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meme-1stdin: yes: just search and the name of my provider.03:43
bxnpmeme-1: wifi?03:43
meme-1bxnp: no... I'm wired in.03:43
stdinmeme-1: that's probably ok then, maybe restart your router?03:44
Alonearomeo_: yeah, it looks like its having the same problem I am. when it tries to install the ati driver,it fails, thus the .debs are not made.03:44
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stdinmeme-1: it seems to be something with it's DNS03:44
romeo_Alonea: Are you on 32bit or 64bit?03:45
meme-1stdin: But if DNS was acting up, I should be able to browse... you know type google.com, etc. I also have 7 other computers connected and all are working fine.03:45
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babaghow do i tell from the command line if firefox is installed03:45
Alonearomeo_: 32 bit, because 64 doesn't work. like I said, this was installed perfectly fine until adept messed it up03:45
PStryderGRRRR03:46
stdinbabag: type "which firefox"03:46
babagthx03:46
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stdinbabag: if you see output, then it's installed03:46
Lam_how do you save a session in firefox?03:46
babagno output03:46
meme-1stdin: (et al) if there are no other ideas at this time, I'll try a last-resort reboot.03:46
stdinmeme-1: do you have "host" or "nslookup" installed?03:46
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babagin add/remove programs it shows but is grayed03:47
babagcan't select it03:47
meme-1stdin: how can I tell?03:47
stdinbabag: make sure your sources aren't all disabled03:47
DaSkreechPStryder: Keep a Live CD around!03:47
mal what's the best way to diagnose a slow internet connection?03:47
romeo_Alonea: Then sorry i have no idea.. Try asking in #ubuntu channel?03:48
stdinmeme-1: type "which host" and "which nslookup"03:48
Aloneathey haven't responded and neither have the people in #ati or ##linux03:48
PStryderGood idea Skreech03:48
Alonearomeo_: ok, can you find my post on here that had all the info and pastebin in it?03:49
meme-1stdin: Okay that is a new command, "which" - it returned, /usr/bin/host and /usr/bin/nslookup03:49
DaSkreechAlonea: what are you trying to do?03:49
babagsources are enabled but firefox still grayed03:49
DaSkreechbabag: open adept03:49
romeo_Alonea: You did not post any pastebin..03:50
AloneaDaSkreech: adept messed up my fglrx...it removed parts of it. Now I cant even install it anymore.03:50
babagadept is now open03:50
DaSkreechbabag: search for firefox03:50
Alonearomeo_: oh, its way up there, a longish post...03:50
stdinmeme-1: good, means you have them, you can use them to query your DNS server (your router), what does "host us.archive.ubuntu.com" show?03:50
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PStryderI'm gonna lose it.03:51
PStryderTime for bed.03:51
babagsays 'mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb' is installed03:51
PStryderAll I want to do is download a bunch of Soyarama pics, without clicking 1500 links and save the files displayed.03:51
meme-1stdin: I did that a while ago actually... everything is good! Resolves find to the proper addresses.03:52
PStryderand I can't find a piece of software that will do it.03:52
meme-1stdin: e.g. us.archive.ubuntu.com has address 91.189.88.3103:52
DaSkreechPStryder: wget03:52
DaSkreechor maybe DTA for Firefox03:52
PStryderDTA?03:52
DaSkreechKget?03:52
romeo_Alonea: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/03:52
DaSkreechDown them all03:52
PStryderwget, kget, harvestman all throw errors.03:52
DaSkreechit's an extension you tell it what you want to follow from a page and it grabs it03:52
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DaSkreech I got the history of Chinese music using it :)03:53
DaSkreechPStryder: are they all on one page?03:53
stdinmeme-1: do you have an /etc/apt/apt.conf or a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ ?03:53
AloneaDaSkreech: yeah, I get that now when I try to install my ati driver03:53
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PStryderNah, they have links to a page displaying each pic, then click the pic, and the actuall jpg is opened.03:54
PStryderthen right click, save, etc03:55
meme-1stdin:  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/03:55
nonuda_aha..stdin is here..03:55
DaSkreechPStryder: does it use a consistent URL?03:55
PStryderseems to.03:55
DaSkreechOr is the URL autogend03:55
stdinmeme-1: does "grep -i proxy /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*" show anything ?03:55
DaSkreechPStryder: I think wget shoudl be able to get that for you03:55
stdinhey nonuda_ :)03:55
meme-1stdin: Nyet03:56
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PStryderit tries, and errors.  They may have code to cause me grief03:56
DaSkreechAlonea: do you have b-e installed?/03:56
PStryderit is a php site03:56
AloneaDaSkreech: whats that?03:56
DaSkreechAh03:56
DaSkreech!b-e | Alonea03:56
ubotuAlonea: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:56
stdinmeme-1: man that's strange03:56
DaSkreechPStryder: curl perhaps?03:57
AloneaDaSkreech: if you are asking if I have all the stuff needed to install it, then yes, I do.03:57
PStrydernever heard of curl03:57
meme-1stdin: don't you just hate it when you just keep hitting brick walls?03:57
DaSkreechAlonea: Apparently you do not. That's why it is complaining03:57
stdinmeme-1: yeah :P, go ahead and see if a reboot fixes it for you, if not you can try changing your sources to another host, ca.archive.ubuntu.com for example03:57
DaSkreechIt wants the c++ libs03:58
DaSkreechPStryder: Well go to sleep and try it tomorrow03:58
AloneaDaSkreech: I will tell you once. I do. It has done this before on another system and I couldn't fix it then. I can even find the files its looking for.03:58
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PStryderI think I have too...work beacons03:58
DaSkreechAlonea: Where it is looking for them?03:59
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meme-1stdin: giving up huh? No serious I understand the frustration. I am not used to being on the side that needs help... interesting experience. At least I'm not cursing you or otherwise... :-)03:59
stdinmeme-1: changing the sources is a "hackish" fox that _may_ work, but I just can't find the problem04:00
meme-1Actually, let me try that first... then I'll reboot.04:00
AloneaDaSkreech: /usr/i486-linux-gnu/lib/  . They are actually in /usr/lib . Make sym links doesn't fix it either...like I said, I had this installed perfectly fine before until I uninstalled an older gcc to try to fix another problem I have. It uninstalled my flgrx stuff when I did that...04:02
DarkEDso nobody has ever had KDE lock up on them like i have?04:02
DaSkreechAlonea: Ohhhh. Hmm04:02
DaSkreechAlonea:have you checked in #ubuntu-effects ?04:02
nixternalanyone running VirtualBox?04:02
AloneaDaSkreech: no, I can try though04:03
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DisabledDuckhow do i get the w32 plugins?04:03
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Jucato!w32codecs | DisabledDuck04:04
ubotuDisabledDuck: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs04:04
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DaSkreechbabag: getting anywhere?04:06
babagstarting to get the hang of adept04:07
nonuda_stdin, i think i found a driver for my ati rage, but i'm confused to choose, can u take a look at this http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php and in download area which file should i download..04:07
DaSkreechbabag: ok :)04:07
babagadept claims firefox is installing04:07
babagwe'll see04:07
babaghey! whadya know!04:08
babagok. now the mouse problem04:09
babag;)04:09
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daifunaiYO! I'm wondering how to install a theme downloaded from a .hack fansite that claims it's initially for kde04:10
stdinnonuda_: seems that it was merged in to xorg 7.0, so you should already have it04:10
daifunaiT_T how do i install it?04:10
DaSkreechbabag: PLug it out04:10
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DaSkreech Problem done :)04:10
stdin!changethemes | daifunai04:10
ubotudaifunai: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu04:10
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nonuda_oh ok..04:11
daifunai...i'm using KUBUNTU, not UBUNTU04:12
daifunaiO.o;04:12
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DisabledDuck!Codec04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:12
daifunaithe file seems to be a .theme04:12
stdindaifunai: don't you nee that link at the end of the message ?04:12
DisabledDuck!Codecs04:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:12
daifunaii prefer one on one assistance. forums don't help a soul04:12
daifunai:P04:12
Jucatodaifunai: did you read that whole sentence above?04:12
Jucatodaifunai: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu04:13
babagDaSkreech: thx (everyone else too)04:13
DaSkreechbabag: Kool04:13
DisabledDuckif i do the fiest upgrade... what are the chances that i mess up my machine and have to re-install?04:14
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babagnow to figure out how to get a serial mouse working04:14
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stdinbabag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto04:14
DaSkreechPour milk on it04:14
daifunaiok, one other thing04:14
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babagwow! thx.04:15
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meme-1I'm back! :-)04:15
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stdinmeme-1: how'd it go?04:16
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meme-1stdin: just finished. It works fine now!04:16
tuxligothe discrimination of debian for ubunut is veri big!04:17
stdingod know's why it wasn't working :P04:17
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meme-1stdin: I was just thinking an OS is an OS these days. Different look, same sh*t04:17
meme-1stdin: same solutions (like reboot) still apply. lol04:18
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stdinmeme-1: I hardy ever reboot04:18
stdinmeme-1: tho I probably need to soon04:18
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stdinmeme-1: I'm running kernel 2.6.20-9 and have 2.6.20-12 installed04:19
meme-1stdin: well, that was the same when I was managing Novell servers... start'em up and forget about them.04:19
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meme-1stdin: Seriously, I rarely reboot my XP computer as well. The days of poking fun at Microsoft's unstable OS's is pretty much over.04:20
DisabledDuckmeme-1: i love a good joke...04:21
chance!Codecs04:21
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meme-1stdin: How do I determine which kernal I am running?04:21
stdinmeme-1: uname -r04:21
rooobmeme-1: uname -a04:21
stdinyou only need -r04:21
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meme-1Linux sconnell-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux04:22
meme-1little bit behind04:23
stdinmeme-1: not really, I'm on feisty04:23
meme-1I see!04:23
DaSkreechOk quick question04:23
DaSkreech does anyone have an issue with going to websites till after you have pinged them?04:23
stdinnope04:24
nonuda_stdin, to run beryl i must enable 3d acceleretion right?04:24
DaSkreechok quick question two anyone here from the caribbean?04:24
DisabledDuck!Multiverse04:24
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:24
stdinnonuda_: I think so, but you may be able to use xgl without it04:25
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stdinnonuda_: bast place to ask is #ubuntu-effects04:25
daifunaisorry, it was WHAT program?04:25
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daifunaiand you're absolutely POSITIVE that it cooperates with .theme files04:26
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linuxbombhow can i get a service to start on boot like mysql04:26
stdindaifunai: a .theme is just an archive, like a .zip04:26
daifunaiit's just showing it as an ordinary file04:27
daifunailike04:27
daifunaia binary file04:27
daifunaior something04:27
stdinlinuxbomb: when you install it, it sets up the scripts04:27
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Jucatoaaah! now I remember04:27
nonuda_aha..ok, btw i have read about xgl but it said that i must have video card drivers with 3D acceleration installed04:27
daifunai It is useable, but no instructions or in-depth information exists on this yet. Still tentatively under construction, and designed for KDE initially, so don't blame me if it malfunctions under the original IceWM.04:27
linuxbombstdin: I know but mysql doesn't start04:27
daifunaiTHAT's what it says04:28
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Jucatodaifunai: .theme files were used KDE 2 I believe... I don't think they can be used for KDE 3 anymore04:28
stdinlinuxbomb: do you have /etc/init.d/mysql ?04:28
linuxbombyes04:28
meme-1I have the same prob. (re: 3D acceleration installed) can't enable on my Intel video card.... therefore Beryl refuses to run.04:28
daifunaiCRAP! >_<04:28
DaSkreech!ohmy04:28
Jucatodaifunai: not really sure though. you can ask for confirmation about .theme files in #kde04:29
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:29
linuxbombI cat start it with /etc/init.d/mysql start04:29
linuxbombcan04:29
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stdinlinuxbomb: do you have /etc/rc2.d/S19mysql ?04:29
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linuxbombnope04:29
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linuxbombI have a k20mysql04:30
stdinlinuxbomb: in /etc/rc2.d ?04:31
linuxbombyes04:31
stdinthat means that it stops in runlevel 204:31
stdinhuh04:31
jhutchinsrunlevels are meaningless in kubuntu.04:31
stdinnope04:32
linuxbombSo change it to a S04:32
jhutchinsyou can build a runlevel based system, but by default they mean nothing.04:32
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linuxbombupdate-rc.d mysql defaults didn't do anything04:32
DaSkreechAnyone have an issue connecting to sites till after you have pinged it?04:33
stdinlinuxbomb: just do "sudo rm /etc/rc?.d/*apache*" then do "sudo update-rc.d mysql-ndb-mgm defaults 19 21" "sudo update-rc.d mysql defaults 19 21" and "sudo update-rc.d mysql-ndb defaults 20"04:33
jhutchinsToo darned bad chkconfig is also meaningless.04:33
stdinjhutchins: do init 0 and tell me that :P04:33
linuxbombwhat04:33
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jhutchinsstdin: Do lilo -R 3;shutdown -r now and tell me it does something.04:34
stdinlinuxbomb: change runlevel to 0, you'll see that kubuntu uses them04:34
utnubukis there an easy way to make sure that a set of files are always the latest: I write on both my desktop and laptop and would like an automated way to make sure the latest version is on both machines04:34
stdinjhutchins: I use grub04:34
jhutchinsstdin: No, seriously, do NOT represent ubuntu as a system that honors rulevls.  It's just plain dishonest to do so.04:35
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linuxbombstdin I just want mysql to start not remove apache04:35
jhutchinsstdin: Provide an equivalent command for grub then.04:35
stdinlinuxbomb: yeah, my bad :S,  just run those commands (replace apache with mysql), it will reset the links to the default04:35
stdinjhutchins: so if you put a link to an init script in rc2.d and have the script say "shutdown -r now" your system won't reboot?04:37
jhutchinsstdin: It is an elegant and usefull system that ubuntu/debian has elected to give only superficial and worthless support to.  When they come up with something with equivalent functionality, google will give you the number to call me at.04:38
jhutchinsDebian/Ubunto go different ways.04:39
jhutchinsWe wait to see if they can come up with anything as useful.04:39
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stdinupstart04:40
jhutchinsIrrelevant.04:40
jhutchinsGood, but irrelevant.04:40
pollyoAnyone here using gaim?04:40
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jhutchinsBeing a really old-time SysV user, I find runlevelss highly compelling.  I undrestand that there are people who never disovered how useful they are, and that they may be somewhat archaic, but I nevertheless find them usefull on an almost daily basis.04:42
jhutchinspollyo: kopete.04:42
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K`zanWhere does one find the initrd.img for a kernel one just built, apparently ubuntu uses that?!?04:43
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mshadeanyone here using kontact / kmail?04:43
jhutchinsK`zan: /boot?04:43
jhutchinsmshade: Yes.04:43
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mshadejhutchins: I'd like to have it display html message as html when applicable.  i've got what seem to be the relevant settings enabled, yet it still defaults to showign it as plain text and i must select the html body from below, and then click the red link in the box to show it as html04:45
K`zanjhutchins: doesn't look like the kernel compile puts either bzImage or the initrd.img anyway, I had to copy bzImage to boot, but no idea where the initrd.img would be found in the source tree?!?04:45
Jucatomshade: Folder menu -> Prefer HTML to Plain text?04:45
jhutchinsmshade: k, that's pretty simple, let me go walk throug it.04:45
mshadeJucato: that's enabled04:46
hackdaddy_using apache2, i'm writing some perl cgi scripts but i'm unable to display images04:46
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Jucatohm...04:46
hackdaddy_i want to to display images from a directory under my home directory somewhere04:46
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mshadeJucato: Ok, it seems to be workign now.. had to restart kontact04:47
jhutchinsmshade: Ok, I find on my setup it's Settings, Configure KMail, Security, Prefer HTML.04:47
mshadejhutchins: i had that enabled too, but I had to restart kontact before it seemed to take effect :) thank you for looking into that04:47
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intelikeyhtml in emails... yuch.04:48
mshadehackdaddy_: you could use a symlink...04:48
mshadeintelikey: i understand the 'yuch' i prefer plain text myself :) that's how I write 'em.04:48
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mshadeintelikey: but others correspond to me frequently with html formatting, and odd characters often show up as squares or question marks -- so I enable html04:49
DaSkreechMan #ubuntu is bustly04:49
hackdaddy_thanks mshade04:49
jhutchinsintelikey: Yeah, I've basically beaten the local LUG into a pulp over it, but that's what it took.04:49
intelikeyDaSkreech yes04:49
DaSkreechtwo people have the same problem as I do there04:49
mshadehackdaddy_: if that doesn't work, you may need to enable a directive in your httpd.conf -- FollowSymlinks04:49
DaSkreechI've seen it on like 6 computers04:50
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DaSkreechthey both went quiet though04:50
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mshadeDaSkreech: what's the issue?04:50
DaSkreechI can't browse or resolve urls until I have pinged tehm04:50
DaSkreechthem04:50
mshadenow that's an odd one04:51
DaSkreechYeah04:51
mshadewhat's in your /etc/resolv.conf ?04:51
intelikeyresolv.conf ?04:51
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intelikeyyes what mshade said.04:51
DaSkreechYou can resolve stuff04:51
DaSkreechJust not in the GUI04:51
mshadehmmm04:51
DaSkreechon the CLI it works fine04:51
DaSkreech w3m04:51
mshadedisable IPv604:51
DaSkreechapt-get04:51
DaSkreechmshade: !04:51
DaSkreechpossibly04:52
mshadetry disabling IPv6 for X :)04:52
DaSkreech /proc something?04:52
mshadei'm hazy on where it had to be done.  i had that issue in slackware04:52
mshadei think on slack i had to actually edit the startx script04:52
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mshadesince you're booting graphical, it will be different04:53
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intelikeyhmmm i always disable ipv6 by default....   edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases   line 1004:53
mshadew00t to intelikey :)04:53
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intelikeychange from ipv6 to off04:53
jeanmasshello04:53
DaSkreechintelikey: Line 10? :-)04:54
jeanmassis the channel #kubuntu the same on irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net ?04:54
intelikeyDaSkreech you'll see04:54
DaSkreechjeanmass: yes04:54
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DaSkreechintelikey: line 17 entry 1004:54
jeanmassthx DaSkreech04:54
intelikeyalias net-pf-10 off04:54
intelikeyit the tenth line that is used... don't count comments...04:55
jeanmasshey guys, my first user crashed, i created a second user. Now i need to recover my data from the home of the first user04:55
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jeanmassbut it is locked04:55
DaSkreechyeah but vi /etc/modprobe.d +10 doesn't work that well04:55
intelikeyDaSkreech heh  ok.04:55
DaSkreechjeanmass: sudo it04:55
mshadejeanmass: easiest will probably be to chown it to your new user04:56
intelikeyi'm not a vi'er my self.04:56
stdinjeanmass: use something like this to unlock it (from konsole): sudo chmod o+rx /home/olduser04:56
DaSkreechintelikey: emacs?04:56
intelikeymc04:56
intelikeymc -e04:56
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DaSkreechSuppose I actually use ipv6 ?04:56
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mshadeDaSkreech: then you wouldn't be having this problem ;)04:56
intelikeythen don't disable it   lol04:56
DaSkreechHmm04:56
jeanmassthe idea would be to copy my data from /home/user1 to /home/user204:56
DaSkreech ok we should be moving to ipv6 next year04:57
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jeanmassand then to set user2 as the owner of this data04:57
DaSkreechlets see if it goes away then04:57
stdinjeanmass: you may want to make it recursive too: sudo chmod -R o+rx /home/user1, then you can use konqueror to copy what you want04:57
DaSkreechjeanmass: what do you mean your first user crashed?04:57
jeanmasskde do no work with 1st user04:57
daifunaisomeone here is familiar with gtk-gnutella04:57
daifunaii just know it04:57
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daifunaianyone know why it's not working?04:58
DaSkreechjeanmass: Ahh and rather than fix it you just want to move to a new user?04:58
intelikeystdin why not -A ?   it will need a chwon anyway04:58
jeanmassyes DaSkreech04:58
stdinintelikey: when the user copies it, they should become the owner04:58
intelikeybut that user is root in your example04:59
BluesKajamule is the fav it seems04:59
intelikeystdin or did i miss something ?04:59
jeanmassstdin: what does sudo chmod -R o+rx /home/user1 do?04:59
mshadeintelikey: do the chown as root, then copy it as a user to the new home -- it'll take ownership of the user04:59
mshadejeanmass: changes permissions on your old home to be readable to your new user05:00
stdinintelikey: nope, root is only used to give others read and execute (tho chown is probably better)05:00
stdinjeanmass: you can try just resetting kde in the 1st users account, just delete /home/user1/.kde/05:01
jeanmassdone stdin05:01
intelikeymshade yeah that will work.   there are plural avanews to removal of the felion epedurmus05:01
intelikey<!sp>05:01
mshadelol05:01
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jeanmassstdin: rm -R /home/user1/.kde/ ?05:02
Aloneaso far, still no luck...05:02
DaSkreechjeanmass: nope05:02
mshadejeanmass: you better just move it instead of remove it05:02
mshadeso you don't lose anythign you didn't want to ;)05:02
DaSkreechmv /home/user1/.kde /home/user1/.kde_bkup05:02
mshadebingo05:02
nonuda_stdin, what is the good application for programmer? i need something like VB05:02
DaSkreechjeanmass: that way you can restore your settings05:03
Aloneanonuda_: I like Eclipse05:03
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silverravagehelp?05:03
DaSkreechinstead of setting everything back up manually05:03
jeanmassi think i'll use user2 from now on anyway05:03
stdinnonuda_: I just use KDevelop, tho I don't code too much (still learning)05:03
DaSkreechand you can keep your amarok library :-)05:03
stdin!ask | silverravage05:03
jeanmassi have entered sudo chmod -R o+rx /home/user105:03
ubotusilverravage: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:03
nonuda_is it have GUI?05:03
DaSkreech!ask | silverravage05:03
K`zanjhutchins:  Answer turned out to be: update-initramfs -k 2.6.whatever -c05:03
jeanmassnow, if i move my data to /home/user205:04
DaSkreechjeanmass: copy away then05:04
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silverravageBeryl is crashing, when ever i try to run it the screen goes black then kicks me out to the login help?05:04
jeanmasswill user2 be considered as the owner?05:04
intelikeyDaSkreech be advised that simple mv .kde_bkup .kde after a kde login will not restore settings.   kde's save session on logout is involved there.05:04
stdinjeanmass: when you (as user2) copy the files then user2 will become the owner05:05
silverravageDaSkreech?05:05
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intelikeyDaSkreech i'm sure you knew that.  but that's why i always advise tar rather than mv for a backup of .kde/05:06
jeanmassok perfect05:06
jeanmassuser1 has a lot of crap in his home05:06
jeanmassto much config folders of old programs that i dont use anymore05:07
Aloneanonuda_: yeah, eclipse is GUI and does multiple languages.05:08
stdinjeanmass: if you have user2 setup the way you want, you can just copy /home/user2/.kde/config and /home/user2/.kde/share to the /home/user1/.kde dir (then sudo chown -R user1:user1 /home/user1/.kde), that should make kde use the settings from user205:08
DaSkreechintelikey: oh no I know that. but I normally just keep it there and as I open applications and go .o0(Crap. I have to set this back up again!!!) I just copy over the folder and I'm happy :)05:08
DaSkreechunless of course it's the app that made KDe go nuts05:08
intelikeyheh yeah unless  :)05:09
Aloneanonuda_: should be in repo, though if it has problems will have to compile from source. It might be a bit confusing at first in the compiling and running stages, but you get used to it pretty quick05:09
DaSkreechWhich in my expericne is normally amarok05:09
Aloneanonuda_: what kinda stuff are you programming?05:09
jeanmassstdin: it's allright i am starting to move my data from /home/user1 to /home/user205:09
jeanmassand then i'll just delete user105:09
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utnubukan assignment i was working on for school became corrupted or something and now all i see is a bunch of # signs in the docs....  if i try to open the file it asks me about ASCII filter options05:10
utnubukany ideas?  i might be really screwed ......05:10
stdinamarok has always been great for me05:10
jeanmassi am so happy to have kubuntu working again05:10
jeanmassi ve been on win for 2 weeks now05:11
intelikeystdin then i don't guess i have missed anything by not liking it... :)05:11
nonuda_Alonea: yes i see it in adept manager,databases & networking, i used VB and ms access05:11
jeanmasswhat is better for the net: konqueror or firefox?05:12
intelikeylinks205:12
intelikey:)05:12
Aloneanonuda_: okies. hmm. I use eclipse for programming my java programs.05:12
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kari21salut tout le monde05:12
Aloneakari21: language?05:13
utnubukthis is weird as hell - I zipped my paper into a tar archive (which is 20 kb) and the extracted product is half that.....05:13
utnubukwhat is going on here?05:13
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intelikeyutnubuk you zipped it ?    gzip or bzip2 ?05:14
Aloneadunno dear05:14
utnubukintelikey: i just did tar -cvvf05:14
intelikeytar is not compressed.05:14
utnubukhmm05:14
nonuda_i'm planning to migrate all of my office pc from Xp to Linux, but the main problem is me, coz i already get to used with windows05:15
intelikeyneed  j  or  z    to compress it bzip2 or gzip  respectively05:15
utnubukintelikey: either way I cant get the file back to its original version05:15
kari21ques qu'il a mon language05:15
nonuda_stdin 11 years in linux, me 11 years in windows05:15
intelikeyutnubuk how are you trying ?05:15
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utnubukright click -> extract here and tar -xvvf05:15
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utnubukboth ways dont work05:16
intelikeywell the tar command should work.05:16
DaSkreechjeanmass: Whichever you like05:16
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DaSkreech!fr | kari2105:17
intelikeytar x filename05:17
ubotukari21: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:17
utnubukthe tar file is 20 kb, the extracted file is 10 kb and definitly not the original file05:17
utnubukok05:17
kari21thank you verry much05:17
stdinnonuda_: I just hated windows from the start :P05:17
DaSkreechkari21: Merci!05:18
nonuda_lol05:18
DaSkreechstdin: I liked it!! Then I used it :(05:18
utnubukintelikey: when i do that the console just hangs, nothing happens...05:19
intelikeyutnubuk i hope not but the .ext 'might' be causing trubble.  what's the name ?05:19
stdin9x wasn't too bad, but it just got worse and worse05:19
jeanmassDaSkreech: konqueror de not work well on gmail05:19
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DaSkreechjeanmass: Did you change the user agent?05:19
jeanmassand there is not a "clear private data"05:19
utnubukthe file i want is .odt, the file causing probs is .tar05:20
jeanmassand konqueror do not work well with a few pages05:20
jeanmassi should change it for gmail?05:20
DaSkreechjeanmass: yes05:20
jeanmassto what?05:20
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DaSkreechtools -> change browser -> other -> firefox05:20
stdinfirefox05:20
unix_infidelanyone downloaded and tried the beta distupgrade yet?05:21
nonuda_time to go..bye guys05:21
intelikeyutnubuk and if you use ark filename.tar   it does what ?05:21
jeanmassand how can i delete private data?05:21
DaSkreechI don't know if there is one button to do that05:22
jeanmassi have also the impression that konqueror do not remember passwords well05:22
DaSkreechYou can delete cookies and passwords05:22
utnubukbrings up ark, same thing (it shows the file as 10 kb big)05:22
DaSkreech two buttons05:22
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unix_infidelyou can setup a keybind to do it on .305:22
utnubukintelikey: would it help if i just sent you the file? i need to get this thing done for tomorrow :/05:22
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DaSkreechunix_infidel: Hmmm?05:22
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utnubukif its lost its lost, but i had 2 pages05:23
unix_infidelcontrol+shift+delete (assuming you've set it not to prompt you)05:23
intelikeyjeanmass you can delete anything in your home if you own $HOME and it set rwx*05:23
intelikeyutnubuk if you can send it send it.05:23
unix_infidelgoes ahead and takes care of all the privacy options.05:23
DaSkreechunix_infidel: that's for jeanmass?05:23
unix_infidelwhoweve wanted to know how to take care of privacy stuff.05:23
unix_infidelits a simple way to get rid of cookies, saved password, etc.05:24
Aloneaany more ideas people on how I can get this installed?05:24
DaSkreechunix_infidel: Is that in settings -> Shortcuts ?05:24
intelikeyutnubuk try again.05:24
intelikey-:- DCC Unable to create connection: Connection refused05:25
intelikeyyou firewalled ?05:25
jeanmassctrl+shift+del in konqueror05:25
utnubuk... yeah let me fix that quick05:25
jeanmassi'll try that05:25
DaSkreechunix_infidel: where is this documented? o.005:25
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jeanmassdoes not seem to do anythin05:26
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jeanmasswhy is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 by default (Mac) by default for google and gmail?05:28
jeanmasswhy is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 (Mac) by default by default for google and gmail?05:28
jeanmasswhy is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 (Mac) by default for google and gmail?05:29
jeanmassthe 3rd one is correct05:29
utnubukintelikey: i cant even ping my router, this is wierd....  i'll just have to retype the whole thing thanks for trying to help anyway05:29
DaSkreechFeisty?05:29
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jeanmassedgy05:30
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intelikeyutnubuk if the problem was caused by a typo or something you can look in the shell history and see what happened... might shed some light and help understand how to prevent reoccurances.    less ~/.bash_history05:31
jeanmasswhy is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 (Mac) by default for google and gmail?05:32
|Iwonder|jeanmass: huh?05:33
jeanmassyes05:34
jeanmassi am in a clean new user05:34
Admiral_Chicago!repeat05:34
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience05:34
|Iwonder|my guess would the person/persons who built it had theirs set that way05:34
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intelikeyjeanmass didn't you do   cp /home/user1 /home/user2  ?    how can you call that clean ?05:35
silverravageshadowline ??05:35
jeanmassno i did not intelikey05:35
|Iwonder|jeanmass:  google building a livecd05:35
jeanmassi copy home/user1/data05:35
intelikeyok saw it talked about...  thought you said you did.05:35
jeanmassmmm05:36
jeanmassanyway05:36
|Iwonder|it mat shed light on how kubuntu was put together05:36
jeanmasson a clean user05:36
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|Iwonder|if it bothers you change it05:36
jeanmassi opoen konqueror > tools > change browser id > configure05:36
silverravagehey iam trying to install the nvidia drivers and iam following wiki on the beryl site for edgy, i get to where i need to shut down X.org05:36
jeanmassand by default there ir05:36
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silverravageand i type in sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:37
intelikeyjeanmass anyway.  mainly cause browser  konqueror is not supported and neither is os linux   by most sites.05:37
jeanmassMozilla/5.0 (Mac)  for google and gmail05:37
silverravagebut it just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor and i cant type any commands in05:37
jeanmassbut mozilla/5.0 neither05:37
inteliwaspis it posible to make the eject button on my cd drive auto-unmount the cd and eject?05:37
jeanmassthey could have put firefox05:37
silverravagei mean i can type but if i type sudo sh ./NVIDIA* it doesnt do anything05:37
|Iwonder|jeanmass: ,konqueror comes as a source,someone had to compile it and place it on the cd you used to load your system,that person had theirs set that way05:38
hsystem-xsilverravage05:38
silverravage?05:38
jeanmassok05:38
hsystem-xon the beryl site, there's a comment nexto to the instructions that tells you what to do when screen goes black. Thats normal05:38
hsystem-xyou have to run gdm again.05:38
silverravagegdm start?05:39
hsystem-xno.05:39
hsystem-xwell let me search wait a minute .05:39
|Iwonder|jeanmass:  try to install a linux from all sources,you will appreciate the time they took to put this together05:39
silverravageok..05:39
|Iwonder|gdm05:40
|Iwonder|is the start up command05:40
|Iwonder|for gdm05:40
Jucatogdm <- gnome display manager. won't be present on Kubuntu/KDE05:40
jeanmassi am discovering linux mate05:40
jeanmass=)05:40
|Iwonder|good point05:40
utnubukintelikey: tar -cvvf paper3.tar 3rd\ Long.odt makes sense, right??05:40
HGXiphiaskdm however will be05:40
hsystem-xah ok05:40
|Iwonder|try kdm05:40
hsystem-xis kdm05:40
hsystem-xsorry05:40
hsystem-xi was thinking on gnome05:41
silverravagethe wiki tells me to do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then thats when the screen goes black and a blinking cursor comes up, then i type in sudo sh ./NVIDIA* and nothing happens05:41
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hsystem-xwhich version of kubuntu you have?05:41
SilentDisgreetings and salutations :)05:41
hsystem-x6.06? 6.10?05:41
|Iwonder|silverravage: type sudo killall kdm then kdm05:41
intelikeyutnubuk yeah.  to create it it does.05:41
silverravagehsystem-x i think 6.10 iam running Ubuntu Ultimate Edition1.305:42
intelikeyutnubuk assuming that   3rd\ Long.odt was a file in the pwd.05:42
intelikeyor a dir...05:42
HGXiphiasUltimate edition? :S05:42
Aloneaanyone can think of another IRC channel that might be able to help me?05:42
SilentDisAlonea: what problem are you having?05:42
silverravagewonder? should i try that sudo killall kdm05:42
HGXiphiasAre you using Kubuntu, or Ubuntu?05:43
Jucatosudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:43
silverravagei mean i am running gnome05:43
Jucatohm.. #ubuntu then?05:43
HGXiphiasYarr05:43
|Iwonder|if you need to kill your display manager/X05:43
HGXiphiasYes05:43
hsystem-x sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:43
hsystem-xthat's the command05:43
utnubukintelikey: oh well, this is going to be a long night :) have a good one man05:43
|Iwonder|either killall kdm or /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:44
SilentDissilverravage: i'd recommend checking into #ubuntu to be sure of things if you're running GDM/Gnome rather than KDM/KDE05:44
hsystem-xSilver do a:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:44
hsystem-xthat's what the page tells...05:44
hsystem-xwhen the screen goes black.05:44
intelikeyutnubuk u 205:44
AloneaSilentDis: adept was mean, it uninstalled my fglrx when I removed another package. Fglrx wasnt even supposed to use the older version...anyway, now I can't install it anymore. I get this when I try to install the ati driver http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/ ...and i KNOW all the needed depend. are there.05:44
hsystem-xif you are using ubuntu is gdm, if it is kubuntu is kdm.05:45
hsystem-xyou*05:45
SilentDisAlonea: you're installing the ati binary blob right?05:46
AloneaSilentDis: yup...again.05:46
SilentDisAlonea: i'm personally running nvidia and had MANY problems myself.  !envy solved all my issues, and from other's i've recommended it to, they all say it works just fine for ati too.  have you tried envy yet?05:47
hsystem-x.05:47
jeanmasscan i remove --purge with adept?05:47
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AloneaSilentDis: it gets exact same error messages in that pastebin that I do05:47
SilentDisAlonea: with envy?  wow.05:48
AloneaSilentDis: yuuuup05:48
jeanmassi entered sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox05:48
jeanmassbut there is still .mozilla/firefox in my home05:48
SilentDisAlonea: try this before installing, just to make sure everything is up to snuff:  sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude install build-essential05:48
intelikeyjeanmass    dpkg -l | grep firefox05:49
SilentDisAlonea: that'll update your package list, upgrade anything outstanding, and reinstall build-essential for you05:49
intelikeyoh nm.05:49
jeanmassintelikey: what is that for?05:49
intelikeyjeanmass package managers do NOT touch your home dir05:49
jeanmasshow do they remove config files?05:49
AloneaSilentDis: 0 installed, upgraded, etc.05:49
SilentDisAlonea: that's good.  did it succeed in reinstalling build-essential?05:50
AloneaSilentDis: yup...and ati still no install...05:50
jeanmasshow to remove the config folders in home then?05:50
intelikeyjeanmass if you are refering to personalization "config files" they dont.05:50
SilentDisAlonea: darn.  I do apologize, but just to be sure, that is the latest ati binary blob right?05:50
jeanmassok05:51
intelikeyjeanmass rm -r .mozilla*05:51
jeanmassi have to do it manually?05:51
intelikeyyep05:51
AloneaSilentDis: yuuuup. using exact same one I installed it the first time with 3 days ago.05:51
jeanmassis safe to remove a .whateverfolder in home?05:51
AloneaSilentDis: and Envy downloaded the latest and got same error..05:51
intelikeyyou put it there you remove it.    "put it there by changing settings in the app"05:51
SilentDisAlonea: ok.. you're using Kubuntu 6.10 (edgy) right?05:51
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intelikeyyes it safe to remove ~/*05:52
intelikeyit is ^05:52
AloneaSilentDis: yeah, and I got this once before when I tried to install this on 64bit...but it was looking for lib64 stuff then, so I went back to 32 bit which installed this perfectly fine..that is untill adept ruined it.05:52
SilentDisjeanmass: the most 'harm' that'll happen by removing a directory in your home folder is if it's settings for an app, it'll rebuild the next time it's started05:52
intelikeysafe....     and at times might be desireable...   rm -r ~/.??* ~/*05:53
SilentDisAlonea: ok... stupid possible solution.  have you tried switching from dash to bash, just to be sure it's not something stupid in a script?05:53
jeanmassi am entering rm -r ~/.??* ~/* right now then05:53
Jucatointelikey?05:53
Jucatojeanmass: no05:54
SilentDisAlonea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash05:54
Jucatounless that is what you want05:54
jeanmass?05:54
intelikeyJucato and why not ?05:54
Jucato<Jucato> unless that is what you want05:54
Aloneait has been bash...i use command bash ./ati-blah blah blah.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy05:54
intelikeyk05:54
jeanmassJucato: i want to remove old config folders from home05:54
Aloneaok, will try that..and nope..didnt work.05:55
Jucatojeanmass: ok. if you're comfortable deleting them without any chance of recovery. otherwise I'd recommend just moving them first05:55
SilentDisAlonea: checking seveas and alberto repos, seeing if they've got a prebuilt deb available...05:55
Jucatojeanmass: also, that will not only delete configs05:55
Jucatoit will also delete app data like mails, playlists, feeds, etc05:55
jeanmassok05:55
AloneaSilentDis: @@...?05:55
Jucatopasswords too05:55
SilentDisAlonea: rather than hand-building it on your 'puter, there might be a pre-built ready to use .deb file that you can just let dpkg install for you.05:56
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Aloneaok, what would the file name be?05:56
SilentDisAlonea: checking repos now... give me a moment, i'm on dialup lol05:57
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Aloneawait..i still have some fglrx deb files...05:57
cocohi everybody05:57
Aloneanm...they are for old driver05:57
lnxkdeDaSkreech: see ya mate God bless u05:59
DaSkreechlnxkde: You too05:59
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lnxkdehehehe btw DaSkreech I am using Oxygen on KDE 3 ;)05:59
DaSkreechlnxkde: I'm trying to hold off on KDe4 stuff tilli t hits05:59
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lnxkdeDaSkreech: I know emotion fades06:00
DaSkreech I compiled strigi and marble though06:00
lnxkdebut still06:00
DaSkreechLike them?06:00
lnxkdeyep prety neet06:00
DaSkreechEmotion?06:00
lnxkdefeelings ;)06:00
lnxkdesorry06:00
lnxkdeemocion <--- in spanish06:00
DaSkreech:-)06:00
lnxkdemy english and spanish get mixed sometimes06:01
lnxkdehehehe06:01
lnxkde;)06:01
DaSkreechno emotion is right i was just wondering if you meant the feeling or ... something else06:01
Aloneait made sense to me..06:01
Alonea^___^06:01
lnxkdeohh06:01
lnxkdewell my english is not too bad then ;)06:01
Aloneai think I am used to other ways of speaking anyways..06:01
DaSkreechAlonea: It made sense to me in two ways. I just wanted to clarify :)06:01
AloneaDaSkreech: ?06:02
DaSkreechlnxkde: no it isn't :)06:02
|Iwonder|got a question,when i get this machine configured the way i want is there an easy way to creat a ckone of it for easy reinstall06:02
lnxkdeDaSkreech: &%*($%(#((@*06:02
DaSkreechlnxkde: How is that compiz blog going? :-)06:02
lnxkdeLMAO nothing really06:02
lnxkdeI dont have time to blog06:02
DaSkreechAlonea: Want to know how many meanings I can get out of ^^^ that? :)06:02
DaSkreechlnxkde: RL?06:02
lnxkdebut I got my beryl/NvidiaGL and all my system running very nice06:02
AloneaDaSkreech: what do you want to clarify?06:03
DaSkreechAlonea: It's clarified :)06:03
AloneaDaSkreech: ok, what is clarified, that I am screwed?06:03
lnxkdewell guys I have to go Its 1am here and I have to work tomorow06:04
lnxkdeGod bless06:04
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DaSkreechAlonea: are we in the same conversation?06:04
AloneaDaSkreech: probably not...I am confused...06:04
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intelikeyDaSkreech you know the differance between a duck ?06:04
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DaSkreechintelikey: Sure06:05
intelikeyDaSkreech one leg is both the same.06:05
DaSkreech just run diff :)06:05
SilentDisAlonea: i'm not seeing the packages listed in alberto's repo...  checking seveas now.06:05
AloneaDaSkreech: ya know what..I figured it out now..ignore me. its late and I am not all here..06:05
AloneaSilentDis: okies, thanks love06:05
DaSkreechAlonea: you can fix it tomorrow :)06:05
DaSkreechAlonea: I guess #ubuntu-effects did not help?06:06
Aloneanope06:06
intelikeyconversation thought idea irc Alonea06:06
Aloneaintelikey: uuwa?06:06
DaSkreechHa ha ha06:06
SilentDisAlonea: not seeing it from seveas either :(06:07
intelikeyok. back to work.06:07
AloneaSilentDis: ok06:07
Aloneaintelikey: am I being made fun of? *sniffles*06:07
jeanmassthank you very much for your help06:07
jeanmassi'am going to study now06:07
jeanmasssee you later06:07
SilentDisAlonea: i'm not sure what to suggest now.  this is the first time i've seen someone fail a driver build for either ati or nvidia that has the build-essential package, AND had envy fail as well.  i'm at a loss :(06:08
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AloneaSilentDis: its ok, so are 3 other channels.06:08
DaSkreechwhat card do you have06:09
DaSkreech why do you need an old gcc?06:09
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AloneaDaSkreech: i dont need an old gcc, when I removed an older one, adept removed stuff for my video card riiiiight along with it06:10
DaSkreechAlonea: ... Umm Ok06:10
DaSkreechWalk me though what happened?06:10
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intelikeyAlonea i don't make fun06:12
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AloneaDaSkreech: ok, I was trying to fix another gcc problem I was having with another thing and thought maybe it was because there was more than one version of gcc on. 3.0 and 4.1 . So, I removed 3.0 and when I was watching the dialog i saw it said "removing fglrx" and stuff related to it as well. Now, I need to put it back on so I removed any other fglrx things I could think of and tried to...06:12
Alonea...install again. Now I can't any more.06:12
Aloneaintelikey: okay. I just didnt understand what you were saying06:12
DaSkreechintelikey: seen the pastebin of the problem?06:13
AloneaDaSkreech: now, I get this pretty little number, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/06:13
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alakhia!wireless06:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:16
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DaSkreechI take it apt-get install fglrx doesn't work?06:17
Admiral_Chicagohey all06:17
nixternalI hope not06:17
AloneaDaSkreech: not generally no. if I ever did it solely by repo before, baaaad things happened06:18
DaSkreechnixternal: :P06:18
nixternalsudo apt-get install fglrx-driver06:18
nixternal;p06:18
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Admiral_Chicagohaha06:18
Aloneai tried that earlier and i think I got it sorta on there, but then it was at mesa with more problems created...06:18
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nixternalsudo aticonfig --initial && sudo aticonfig --overlay=Xv06:19
nixternalI think06:19
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nixternaldon't use the documentation on our wiki because you will do nothing but cuss us, there is an ATI wiki somewhere in the world that has great docs that will make it work for you06:19
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Aloneawell it worked first time around nixternal just fine, until adept kinda removed parts of it...at this point it will be quicker to reinstall system...again, for i think the 4th time now in a month06:20
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nixternalshh06:22
nixternalI am the know nothing bot!06:22
Jucato:D06:22
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago only talks when I allow him to talk, he knows better06:22
Jucatoand I'm the bot that doesn't know everything about KDE :D06:22
nixternalbull!06:22
Aloneaand I am the bot that spouts and creates problems06:22
JucatoAlonea: nah. you don't create problesm. ATI does that for you :P06:23
Aloneai am the human virus for linux. i do nothing but destroy it.06:23
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AloneaJucato: this isn't the only way i have broken linux (er..,ati has blame too then). ^__________^06:23
Jucato:D06:24
AloneaI still love how I completely utterly locked myself out of my own useraccount06:24
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DaSkreechAlonea: All is fixable with a Live CD patience and knowledge06:24
Aloneawhen I tried to log in, I would put pass in, it would start to login, then go back to pass screen in an endless loops06:25
jeanmasshello06:25
DaSkreechWell time to strip this wallpaper06:25
jeanmassi am doing some backup06:25
Aloneaand I could not even login under the recovery either.06:25
Jucato<DaSkreech> Alonea: All is fixable with a Live CD patience and knowledge... -> and a portable DaSkreech06:25
Alonealol06:25
jeanmassi am copying folders from /home to external hdd (ipod)06:25
DaSkreechmaybe a cheering squad :)06:25
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DaSkreechjeanmass: good idea06:25
Aloneayeha, I tink I will just say screw it and reinstall Kubuntu..wow...how many times have I said that for windows too...06:26
Jucatobetter than simply rm'ing :)06:26
jeanmasswhen i right click on /home/folder properties06:26
jeanmassand /media/ipod/storage/folder properties06:26
alakhiaI have a question about wireless networking ...06:26
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AloneaLinux better not catch up number wise on reformats due to windows...06:26
jeanmassi have the same files and folders06:26
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alakhiaEverytime I boot up, I don't have networking and I need to run wireless assistant06:26
jeanmassbut the size varies a bit06:26
Aloneaat least I dont have to reformat my home folder and just root06:26
DaSkreechAlonea: You can fix it if you have faith06:27
alakhiais there any way I can have my settings be persistent?06:27
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AloneaDaSkreech: uh huh, but reformatting in this case will take me 20 minutes and to get wifi and vid card back another 10 at most.06:27
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DaSkreechAlonea: Oh Yeah I know06:27
alakhiaalso, does knetworkmanager any good?06:27
jeanmassfor instance06:27
DaSkreech I've taken 5 days to fix a X problem that could be solved by a 15 minute install06:28
unix_infidelalpha testing ftw.06:28
DaSkreechjeanmass: overall size is the same?06:28
AloneaDaSkreech: yup. sometimes simplest solution is best06:28
alakhiaor anyone know what /etc files to mess with?06:28
DaSkreech Filesysystem differences can cause small size diffeernces06:28
jeanmass /home/folder 80files, 3subfolders, 15,214,41306:28
DaSkreechAlonea: Wehn time is of the essence06:28
DaSkreech but knowing how to fix problems helps you a lot06:29
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Admiral_Chicagonixternal: quiet, I don't need your permission06:29
AloneaDaSkreech: or stress will cause laptop to be thrown into wall..06:29
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AloneaDaSkreech: that it does.06:29
DaSkreechAlonea: Possibly06:29
jeanmass /media/ipod/storage/folder 80files, 3subfolders, 15,214,50906:29
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alakhiacan any one help?06:29
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: he's in the wallpaper don't do that06:29
alakhiaplease?06:29
DaSkreechSee now the wallpaper is all ripped :-(06:29
DaSkreechjeanmass: yeah that's cool06:30
AloneaDaSkreech: and I certainly know all I ever needed to know about ndiswrapper...06:30
Admiral_Chicagooh dang sorry DaSkreech06:30
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DaSkreechalakhia: What isn't sticking?06:30
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alakhiaDaSkreech: my wireless settings ... I always need to run wireless assistant06:30
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DaSkreechalakhia: umm not sure does it have a save settings button?06:31
alakhiaDaSkreech: I wish!06:31
DaSkreechHey this is a family spot06:31
DaSkreechJucato: take down that ubuntu "human" wallpaper!06:31
Jucatodang! I thought you wouldn't notice...06:31
Jucato:(06:31
jeanmassfolder 2: same amount of files and subfolders but 4,259,942,206 at home and 4,259,970,87806:31
DaSkreechJucato: Help alakhia for a bit I gotta run out06:32
jeanmassam i losing some data?06:32
DaSkreechjeanmass: not sure. There will be size differences between two file systems06:32
AloneaJucato: if you use that guerilla glue...he wont be able to move..pierod. I love that stuff. best glue ever06:32
Alonea*period06:32
jeanmassone is linux, the other FAT32 (ipod)06:32
DaSkreechsome store large files effiecently some store small files06:32
intelikeycp + symlinks @ jeanmass06:33
JucatoDaSkreech, alakhia: sorry, no idea about wireless stuff... :(06:33
jeanmassintelikey: ??06:33
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DaSkreechJucato: Well pokesomeone who does06:33
Aloneaalakhia: whats wrong with your wifi?06:33
alakhiaJucata & DaSkreech: Ok, thanks for trying06:33
DaSkreechAlonea: Nothing06:33
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DaSkreech it just needs to get setup everytime he(?) boots06:33
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alakhiaAlonea: my wireless settings don't persist06:33
alakhiaAlonea: yes, he is fine! :)06:34
DaSkreechGood :)06:34
DaSkreechDon't wanna assume :)06:34
alakhiaAlonea: I need to run wireless assistant everytime06:34
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alakhiaAlonea: I was fine the first few times ... but now I hate doing it06:34
Alonealike, it wont turn on? as in modules or something else? Of course I am used to having ndiswrapper to get my wifi card to do anything. though once its on, I dont have to do anything at al06:34
jeanmassif same amoount of files and subfolders, then backup is ok?06:35
alakhiaAlonea: I don't know about modules ... seems like my wireless card is working06:35
alakhiaAlonea: I just need to tell it which network to connect to06:35
Aloneaoh ok. so its just not connecting automatically?06:35
alakhiaAlonea: maybe it is getting confused because I have an ethernet card too?06:35
alakhiaAlonea: yes ... don't have to load modules or anything06:36
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Aloneaalakhia: ok, and have you tried right clicking, telling it to foget settings, and then telling it to do automatic again?06:36
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bumzohi guys ... who here knows how to add MSN to kopote?06:37
daifunaii need my comp to interact with my secondary hard drive06:37
ubuntuk06:37
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DarkEDhi all, when i try to run beryl in kubuntu 6.10 i get > Checking for XComposite extension               : failed06:38
DarkEDNo composite extension found06:38
Aloneaalakhia: and whats the seconds for the timeout under options for the wifi spot?06:38
alakhiaAlonea: ok, tried forget settings06:38
DarkEDanyone have any ideas?06:38
alakhiaAlonea: 15s06:38
Aloneaalakhia: ok, thats fine...06:39
alakhiaAlonea: there is nothing saying automatic anything06:39
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alakhiaAlonea: if I right click my network, my only choice is "Disconnect"06:39
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Aloneauuuwa?!06:39
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alakhiaAlonea: I upgraded from Dapper ... did that mess things up?06:40
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Aloneaalakhia: I have an automatic dhcpc thing choice. like, you right click, do edit settings, and set to auto...06:40
Aloneadunno. never had daper06:40
Aloneawhat version is your assistant?06:40
alakhiaAlonea: hmm, I only have 3 buttons on right side: Refresh, Options and Quit06:41
DaSkreechJucato: yes?06:41
alakhiaAlonea: 0.5.506:41
Jucato??06:41
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Aloneaalakhia: ok, thats right. hmm, maybe its not running as root or something..06:41
Aloneaalakhia: it asks for password when you try to start is right?06:41
DaSkreechbumzo: I know!06:41
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alakhiaAlonea: no, I type my password before it starts06:41
Aloneaalakhia: ok, and you dont have an edit settings when you right click the place you are currently connected to?06:42
DaSkreechDarkED: Maybe you don't have the XComposite :)06:42
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DaSkreechJucato: You poked me06:42
alakhiaAlonea: not anymore ... I asked it to forget settings06:42
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DaSkreechg0od_girl: right06:43
alakhiaAlonea: let me try to disconnect and reconnect06:43
Aloneaalakhia: oh, duh. yeah, disconnect. reconnect. then do edit settings..06:43
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alakhiaAlonea: I'll be back!06:43
Aloneaalakhia: k06:43
Jucato<DaSkreech> Jucato: Well pokesomeone who does06:43
DaSkreechJucato: Jerk06:43
JucatoO.o06:44
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Jucatonow you want me to... nvm.06:44
bumzoanyone with onything on kopote?06:44
Aloneaawww! now come on dears. be nice.06:44
Aloneawe gotta LOVE each other06:44
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Jucatowhat's onything? a new service/IM?06:45
DaSkreechbumzo: I know!06:45
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Jucato!love06:45
ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.06:46
Jucato:D06:46
AloneaLOL06:46
bumzodaskreech: please help me out06:46
Aloneayou are loverly Jucato06:46
Aloneahmm...!ati06:46
alakhiaAlonea: ok, I have edit settings choice when I right click06:46
alakhiaAlonea: it is in automatic mode06:46
alakhiaAlonea: so everything is greyed out06:46
Jucato!ati | Alonea06:46
ubotuAlonea: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:46
DaSkreechbumzo: Neva!!!! Muwahahaha06:46
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Aloneaneeds a description of evil06:47
DaSkreechbumzo: You seriously can't figure it out?06:47
alakhiaAlonea: ok, am back06:47
Aloneaalakhia: ok, hopefully it will autoconnect now06:47
alakhiaAlonea: ok, let me try it ... thanks for your help06:48
Alonealike, have that description and then say "Otheriwise, commit seppuku."06:48
bumzodaskreech: for real i cant ... my kopote has gone bonkas06:48
DaSkreechbumzo: Settings -> Configure Kopete -> accounts06:48
DaSkreechAlonea: svn commit seppuku ?06:48
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AloneaDaSkreech: *bursts out laughing* that would be greaat06:49
AloneaJucato: make sure its niiiiiice and sharp06:49
bumzodaskreech:oh my god i feel so stupid06:49
DaSkreechbumzo: Welcome to my club. Would you like a card?06:50
hsystem-xjajajajajajajajaja06:50
hsystem-xa card, jajajaja06:50
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AloneaDaSkreech: now, to make sure, you DO know what seppuku is right?06:50
=== DaSkreech gets a monogrammed one for hsystem-x
bumzodaskreech: lol and a complemetry for msn for dummies lol06:50
DaSkreechAlonea: if you know what svn commit is :)06:51
AloneaDaSkreech: that I do. I dont commit for rockbox, but I sure I do get their svn builds.06:51
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AloneaDaSkreech: I am happy then went to subversion...hated CVS06:52
DaSkreechThere is only one honourable thing to do then06:52
DaSkreechSeppuku for everyone!!!! :)06:52
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DaSkreechheehee06:52
AloneaI swear I am making this my msn for the next month06:52
DaSkreechbumzo: I'll get right on that. You still have to pay for your copy though06:52
Aloneait should be a t-shirt06:53
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dougbare there any KDE snes emulators?06:53
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hsystem-xyeah, there is one on synaptic ^^.06:54
DaSkreech!zsnes06:54
ubotuzsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)06:54
dougbits not available on feisty06:55
DaSkreechAlonea: I'll get right on that as well06:55
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DaSkreech!zsnes feisty06:55
ubotuzsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)06:55
dougbhmmmmm06:55
DaSkreechdougb: ubotu disagrees06:55
AloneaDaSkreech: pimp it out to ThinkGeek06:55
hsystem-xgood bot ^^06:55
dougbadept lies06:55
DaSkreechAlonea: they pay for that06:55
DaSkreechdougb: more possible than ubotu06:55
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hsystem-xaptitude ^^06:56
dougbthats fine hsystem-x, i use apt-get :-P06:56
Jucatodang lag..06:56
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AloneaDaSkreech: we hope. I can see people buying a shirt that says that. Its a opensource and japan joke all in one...06:57
RomexiosDoes anyone know how i can give my self permission to be able to run things in the background? i am trying to run an eggdrop..06:58
DaSkreechRomexios: just run it with a & at the end06:59
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DaSkreechit will drop into the background06:59
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Aloneawell, I have this thing called school tomorrow...have to go pretend to listen in history...06:59
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RomexiosDaSkreech: Could you please be more precise? I type /.eggdrop name.conf so all i need todo is /.eggdrop name.conf& ?07:00
DaSkreechthat's the idea07:00
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DaSkreechAlonea: later07:00
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DaSkreechAlonea: tomorrow?07:00
AloneaDaSkreech: later dear. Shall fix this damn..er beloved system tomorrow.07:00
DaSkreechdarked__: Welcome back07:00
AloneaDaSkreech: yeah...probably during history...I take notes on my laptop.07:01
DaSkreechJucato: Hold the fort07:01
DaSkreech Off to bed07:01
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AloneaJucato: yes, hold the fort.07:01
DaSkreechAlonea: It's not really broken :-P07:01
DarkEDDaSkreech: Thanks, I'm having trouble with lockups =/07:01
DaSkreech not like it can't boot past grub07:01
AloneaDaSkreech: just disfunctional, like me.07:01
DaSkreechnonuda_: Welcome back07:01
DaSkreechAlonea: we should hang out more :)07:01
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AloneaDaSkreech: had that a couple times too. Its fun when you dont get ANY bootloader07:02
DaSkreechbumzo: night07:02
nonuda_hehe..yup..07:02
meme-2Hello folks, can someone remind me how to search for a file reclusively. (DOS equiv to dir /s \file*.* - search for any instance of any file beginning with "file" from all folders beginning at root)07:02
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meme-2I wish to do this from terminal BTW. Thank you07:02
DaSkreechmeme-2: Umm which of 20 ways do you want?07:02
Admiral_Chicagohey htere07:02
DaSkreechmeme-2: ls -R | grep filename07:03
meme-2DaSkreech: pick your fav. :-)07:03
Alonea^__________^07:03
Admiral_Chicagowhat do you all need from me07:03
DaSkreechA tip of the hat07:03
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DaSkreechMan I'm missing Futurama07:03
DaSkreechNight all07:03
nonuda_its noon..heh07:04
Kite_DHdoes anybody know a program to see in/outcoming connections?07:04
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intelikeymeme-2 find /base_dir/ -iname *string*07:05
meme-2DaSkreech: I though grep was for searching inside files?  Anyhow... when I try that, nothing seems to have, have to hit control-c07:05
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intelikeymeme-2 if you only want files     find /base_dir/ -type f -iname *string*     or exact match. remove the two asterisks07:06
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hackdaddyhow do i server up images from an apache2 perl script running from the cgi-bin under my home directory?07:08
intelikeymeme-2 slocate is an app made for that also,  but it uses a database that can be out of date.   "sudo updatedb "   will put it back in sync       slocate blah07:09
meme-2intelikey: thanks that worked! I had installed kvirc... but it didn't show up in the menu or on the desk.  Found it and now it is running.07:09
hackdaddyapache2 seems to want to exec the images instead of displaying them07:09
intelikeymeme-2 you should never need to find things you install via a package manager.  the executable should always be in your path.      (key word should)07:10
hackdaddycrap, i just figured it out07:10
intelikeymeme-2 thus     kvir[tab] 07:11
hackdaddyi thought that .. out of the cgi bin was forbidden???07:11
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intelikeyhackdaddy i know nothing about apache,  i'm cherokee07:12
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hackdaddyman, i used to know that old apache1 conf file, but apache2 is quite different07:13
Kite_DHdoes anybody know a program to see in/outcoming connections?07:14
DarkEDanyone know any good skydomes for Beryl?07:14
Kite_DHyes07:14
Kite_DHin the beryl forum07:14
DarkEDKite_DH: thanks07:15
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distroidim having problems getting mysql to work... what password does it want?  it never asked during the install.07:15
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meme-1Okay, I am back and inside KVIrc - thanks for all the help07:18
firecrotc1distroid: There is no password by default, but you'll want to change that07:19
meme-1I am not sure the "grass is greener" with this app. though.. I liked the cleaner interface with Konversation.07:19
firecrotc1distroid: mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD07:19
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distroidoh i missed that last bit thanks07:23
distroid[slapping forehead] 07:23
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jeanmasshi07:26
jeanmassi want to delete the 1st user, the one you setup when installing kubuntu, but i cant!07:26
intelikeyjeanmass have you set a root passowrd or added some other user to the admin group ?07:28
distroidexit07:28
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distroidexit07:28
distroidexit07:28
intelikey/exit07:28
distroidduh thanks07:29
jeanmassyes other users are in the admin group07:29
nixternalhahahahahahaha07:29
intelikeyjeanmass then as one of the other users  sudo userdel firstusername07:30
jeanmassdone07:31
jeanmasshow can i check if it worked properly?07:31
intelikeytry to login as that user07:32
jeanmassok it worked07:32
intelikeygrep that username from /etc/passwd07:32
jeanmassnow i have to del /home07:32
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jeanmass!adm07:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:32
intelikeyjeanmass there was a switch that would have done that too.   but just a note.  you don't mean /home  you mean /home/user1    unless your other users don't live in /home/07:33
jeanmassyes /home/user107:34
jeanmassa switch? you mean graphical?07:34
intelikeyjeanmass good practice, and common sense says, if someone gives you a command to run and you are not fameliar with it.    man command     first.07:35
intelikeyjeanmass no i mean a switch.07:35
intelikeyman userdel07:35
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jeanmassi m not sure what you mean07:36
intelikeyman userdel07:36
jeanmassbut i've done what i wanted07:36
jeanmassthanx!07:36
intelikeyman man07:36
intelikeyman intro07:36
jeanmassby the way what is the adm group for?07:37
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intelikeyidk07:37
intelikeyi don't think i have that group07:37
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intelikeyhmmm ok i do have... it gid is 4    odd.07:38
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Jucatoadm  adm  Administrative special privileges07:38
Jucatoaccording to http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/usernames.html07:38
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intelikeyJucato but no one is in adm.07:38
alakhia!beryl07:38
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:38
jeanmassso my username should be in admin and adm?07:39
intelikeyadmin07:39
Skullerwhy does my kicker hate me so much that it kicks itself out (crashes) in front of me many times?07:39
Jucatoexcept my user...07:39
intelikeyJucato did you add yourself to adm ?07:39
Jucatono. it's default07:40
intelikeyfeisty ?07:40
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JucatoI can remember it in dapper as well07:40
jeanmassyes ot's default07:40
jeanmassso as i am changing my default user07:40
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jeanmassshould i put him in adm group?07:40
intelikeyJucato yeah dapper has adm group but didn't set any one in it by default07:40
Jucatointelikey: not even your own user? I mean the default user created belongs to that group07:41
Jucatoiirc07:41
intelikeyJucato no07:41
intelikeyit's empty07:41
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Jucatowhat's the command again to check members of a particular group?07:42
jeanmassbrb07:42
intelikeyJucato grep groupname /etc/group07:43
Jucatoah07:43
Jucatoyep I'm there...07:43
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intelikeyhmmm   i fresh installed dapper last weak and i'm not there.     idk....07:43
Jucato"Table 21-2 is a table of optional mnemonic user and group names. This specification makes no attempt to numerically assign uid or gid numbers. If the username exists on a system, then they should be in the suggested corresponding group. These user and group names are for use by distributions, not by applications."07:44
Jucatooptional anyway07:44
intelikeyif you remember i "tried really really really hard to keep it all default"07:44
Jucatomust have been a great sacrifice on your part. :)07:45
intelikeylasted three days before i broke *exploded* and started configuring things.    i thought i did real good...07:45
Onewingexit07:46
Jucatothe only reason I keep "some" defaults is for user support...07:46
intelikey/exit07:46
Onewingthanx07:46
intelikeyyeah that was my intent.   it didn't work.07:46
Onewing/exit07:46
intelikeyOnewing lol07:46
JucatoOnewing: no space before /07:47
Jucatoactually I thought it should be /quit...07:47
Jucatointelikey: next best thing would probably to use some virtualization voodoo07:47
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intelikeyif all else fails   sudo killall -9 "irc_client_name"07:47
intelikeyJucato yeah07:47
intelikeyJucato you know my philosophy on "default" anyway.    it's just a starting point on the long road to right.07:48
Jucato:)07:48
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intelikeyconsole has ruined me on that.   first thing i do is switch the desktop to plain black background07:50
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intelikeybut i used to do that in windows and get mad cause you couldn't remove the "my disputer" and "thrash" icons...    so maybe it wasn't the console that did it.....07:51
firecrotc1!quicktime07:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:51
Jucato:)07:51
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intelikeywhat in the sam hill is   .rnd   in root's home ?07:55
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intelikeyit's a binary file....07:55
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KaoticEvili think the first thing most people do is customize the lookNfeel of their computer07:55
intelikey# file .rnd07:55
intelikey.rnd: data07:55
Jucatodepends... some people don't even bother... specially if the defaults are... um... bearable07:56
KaoticEviland doubly so with geeks07:56
intelikeylol07:56
KaoticEvilafter i get my mission-critical apps installed, it's on to tweaking the lnf07:56
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KaoticEvilO_O07:56
KaoticEvildont do that :(07:56
chuenHi. I've installed Sun Java, but when I check for the Java version I have installed I get that 1.4.2 Free version is installed.07:57
chuenWhat can I do about that?07:57
intelikeycallen' us geeks...07:57
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Jucatochuen: sudo update-alternatives --config java07:57
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chuenjucato: Thanks, will try that.07:57
KaoticEvilheh07:57
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=== KaoticEvil . o O ( you cant do that anyway.... can you? dont see how you could... )
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intelikeyKaoticEvil it can be done.   and it will super ruin a bios.08:02
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KaoticEvilintelikey: im not sure i want to know how to do it in that case... i might be tempted :P08:04
chuenjucato: That simple command (config java) has saved me hours of grief! Thanks a lot :)08:05
Skullerdid someone say ruiin a bios?...im in!08:05
Jucatochuen: you're welcome a lot :)08:05
firecrotc1Count me in on the BIOS-ruining action!08:05
KaoticEvillol08:06
Skullern we'll call ourselves the 'BIOS Screwer League'.....*trumpets/drums*08:06
KaoticEvilbuncha twisted geeks at that lol08:07
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KaoticEvilSkuller: why not BIOS Screwers Of Doom?.. B.S.O.D. for short :)08:07
sonoftheclayrlol08:07
Skullerlol08:07
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SkullerKaoticEvil: good one...i'll file the petition right away..hope the name isnt taken08:08
intelikeyJucato you're supposed to quail !offtopic   at about that point....08:08
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Skullerlol08:08
Jucatointelikey: sshhh :)08:09
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Skullersorriz guys.....continue with the helping each other part08:09
Jucatoweren't you helping screw BIOS'es?08:09
intelikeySkuller atm we were only helping relieve stress...08:09
intelikeylol does good like dope08:10
intelikeyto misquote the proverb08:10
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Skullercool...:)08:11
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intelikeyheh i have local lag time on my irc client of 4-6 seconds  but network is about 1 second ....08:15
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Skullerwhat will happen if i  put alias vim=emacs in my /etc/profile?08:26
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Skuller@lart Skuller for creating a solar powered torch08:30
michael_#ubuntu08:30
NaNO2xwas wondering if there was anyone around who could help me install a driver, its for some quite unsuported hardware and there is a snv version but its not working well at getting installed08:30
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NaNO2xhttps://sourceforge.net/projects/m560x-driver/ would be the driver08:31
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NaNO2xif there is a better section to go id be appreciative for the direction08:31
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jamiehello, do any of you know if hardware accelleration for my ATI Raedon x300 card is supported in Ubuntu?08:37
unix_infideljamie: radeon accel is baddddly supported in linux in general.08:39
unix_infidelnon 3d accel works perfectly fine.08:39
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david_Howdy. How do I get the Lame encoder for Kubuntu? It's not part of apt-get.08:39
jamieok... i was really talking about 3d08:40
Lynourejamie: see http://www.google.com/search?q=+hardware+acceleration+x300+ubuntu if you have not08:40
unix_infidel!lame08:40
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB08:40
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unix_infidelyou werent looking hard enough08:40
Ayabara2does anyone know how I initially create my inetd.conf file? vmware server needs it, but it's not created when I start the inetd service08:41
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david_how do i find lame? It doesn't show up in apt-get or Adept.08:42
Jucato!info lame | david_08:43
ubotudavid_: lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB08:43
Jucatoenable multiverse08:44
Jucato!multiverse | david_08:44
ubotudavid_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:44
david_Lemme look...08:44
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david_OK, I see... I actually have to add 'multiverse' after the 'universe' line, not just enable something.08:48
david_Done, thanks! :-)08:48
david_-oo-08:48
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rigvedhi... can anybody pls help me with a small local browser problem in kubuntu08:50
rigvedi m not able to display the pound  sign08:50
rigvedin konquerer it is left blank08:51
rigvedin firefox it shows a question mark08:51
rigvedpls help08:51
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rigved<rigved> i m not able to display the pound  sign08:53
rigved[13:21]  <rigved> in konquerer it is left blank08:53
rigved[13:21]  <rigved> in firefox it shows a question mark08:53
rigved[13:21]  <rigved> pls help08:53
Ash-FoxStop flooding08:53
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Lynourerigved: have you search for a solution already?08:54
rigvedLynoure hi i am able to see the character08:55
rigved<rigved> i m not able to display the pound  sign08:55
rigved[13:21]  <rigved> in konquerer it is left blank08:55
rigved[13:21]  <rigved> in firefox it shows a question mark08:55
rigved[13:21]  <rigved> pls help08:55
rigvedsorry08:55
rigvedLynoure i am able to see the char on the site when its online08:55
rigvedrigved only locally i cant see it08:55
Ash-FoxWhich site?08:55
rigvedAsh-Fox a lingerie site i m developing08:56
rigvedhttp://www.fusion5a.com/test/desire/08:56
Lynourerigved: pound as in # or the UK pound sterling?08:56
rigved08:56
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utnubukwhere might openoffice.org keep it's files besides /home/username/.openoffice.org2?08:56
Ash-Foxrigved, I do see it just fine08:57
utnubukim hoping i can find a backup of a corrupted file : /08:57
rigvedAsh-Fox i know... i can see it too when i open it from online... but offline i cant see it08:57
Ash-Foxrigved, what is the page encoding set to in firefox under view -> character encoding08:57
rigvedAsh-Fox i ll just check...08:58
Lynourerigved: this could be informative for you? http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/01/how-to-change-your-default-locale-on.html but if you input  yourself, and look at it in konq or ff, do you see it?08:58
rigvedAsh-Fox ok i get it... it was not set to utf-8.. am i right08:58
Ash-FoxActually, wait a sec.08:59
Lynourerigved: (I'm not actually recommending changing away form UTF8, as then you miss all the other utf8 fun)08:59
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rigvedLynoure it was not utf-809:00
Ash-Foxrigved, the problem is that you're not using proper HTML09:00
rigvedi made it utf-809:00
dettoaltrimenti_im trying to make firefox automatically open torrents in ktorrent- where is the program 'ktorrent' in my filesystem?09:00
rigvedo09:00
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Ash-Foxrigved, the pound symbol in HTML is &pound;09:00
rigvedAsh-Fox but then how does it show on the online09:00
Lynourerigved: that's what I assumed, but your system is, unless you changed it09:00
rigvedAsh-Fox i ll try it anyway09:00
Ash-Foxrigved, replace   in your html code with &pound;09:00
rigvedi did...09:01
rigvedits not making any difference09:01
Ash-FoxIt should.09:01
Ash-FoxIt should actually work now.09:02
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rigvedAsh-Fox hey it did work!!!!!!!!09:03
Ayabara2is there a sampe inetd.conf file for ubuntu?09:03
rigvedAsh-Fox thank u so much!!09:03
Ash-Foxrigved, your welcome09:04
Ash-FoxAyabara2, I believe kubuntu comes with xinetd, open konqueror and enter the url man:xinetd.conf09:04
LynoureAyabara2: Which version?09:05
Ash-FoxAt the bottom are some examples09:05
LynoureAyabara2: on feisty my /etc/inetd.conf is just an empty file09:05
Ayabara2Lynoure, 6.10. tried  to dist-upgrade to feisty yesterday, but it failed miserably09:05
Ayabara2Ash-Fox, thanks09:05
dettoaltrimenti_how can I view which display driver I'm using?09:05
Ayabara2Lynoure, I'll try an empty file. it's only to make vmware server happy09:06
Ash-Foxdettoaltrimenti_, it'll probably be the last line displayed when you run this command: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:09
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[pyro] hey guys09:09
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Ash-FoxHallo [pyro] 09:11
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reverendnathanHi, I need help with FFMPEG.09:12
reverendnathan  Duration: 00:21:39.2, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1127 kb/s09:12
reverendnathan  Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 512x384, 23.98 fps(r)09:12
reverendnathan  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 128 kb/s09:12
reverendnathanWhat should I put in for the MPEG's parameters?09:12
Ash-Fox!flooding09:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:12
reverendnathanI'm converting an AVI to MPEG09:12
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reverendnathanI know "ffmpeg -i sp.avi sp.mpg, but that makes a very terrible quality output.09:13
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pollyoAnyone use qemu to run windows?09:14
Ash-Foxreverendnathan, you might want to use VLC, which is based on ffmpeg tools.09:15
Ash-Foxreverendnathan, it comes with a GUI which should be helpful and once you make up the URI for making a stream or such, you can execute it from the console.09:15
Ash-Foxpollyo, sorry, I use vmware.09:15
reverendnathanAsh-Fox: It's outputting a blank video when I do it. However, the command line version of ffmpeg actually outputs both, just at a low quality.09:16
utnubukhow can i force openoffice.org to do run the data-recovery wizzard?09:16
pollyoAsh-Fox: Do you have to use a disk image with vmware?09:17
Ash-Foxpollyo, no.09:17
pollyoAsh-Fox: I have a dual boot system and I was looking for something that would allow me to also boot into the other OS while the other is running.09:17
Ash-Foxreverendnathan, I have no experience with ffmpeg, only VLC.09:17
Ash-Foxpollyo, vmware-server can use partitions if that's what you're asking.09:18
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pollyoAsh-Fox: Do they have a free version of vmware-server?09:18
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Tm_Tpollyo: there is09:19
Tm_Tpollyo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmware&titlesearch=Titles09:20
Ash-Foxpollyo vmware-server is free09:20
Ash-Fox!vmware-server09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
Ash-Fox!vmware09:20
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers09:21
pollyoHow is vmware next to qemu?09:21
Freeza^hey which is more customizable? kde or gnome?09:21
firecrotchFreeza^: KDE, definitely09:22
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Freeza^is it possible to make kde have the application bar at the bottom a la osx?09:22
Freeza^without having to get another app09:23
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firecrotchFreeza^: Nope09:24
reverendnathanAsh-Fox: Is there perhaps another conversion software to convert video you know of off the top of your head?09:25
Freeza^ahh because ive seen pics in kde-look.org of what looks like themes that have it setup like that09:26
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Ash-Foxreverendnathan, VLC09:27
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firecrotchFreeza^: If I recall correctly, those are showing a SuperKaramba theme that does it09:30
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orange_how do i verify the checksum of a downloaded image?09:34
Jucatomd5sum <file>09:34
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reverendnathanAsh-Fox: I can't figure this out. I use the wizard to convert videos on VLC, correct?09:35
Ash-Foxreverendnathan, if you want09:35
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Ash-Foxctrl + w -> transcode/save to file -> choose file (just click browse, find it, click ok) -> set options.. yeah09:37
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Freeza^ahh cool ill check that out09:38
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reverendnathanI guess that's the problem, Ash-Fox . The whole process goes fine, but the outputted file is just audio with no video :(09:38
Ash-Foxdoes it play in the first place in VLC?09:39
Ash-FoxAre you even reencoding the video to mpeg?09:40
Ash-Foxerr transcoding09:40
reverendnathanAsh-Fox: Yes. It's an XviD AVI That goes just fine. And the process of converting goes fine (Albiet strangely swift). Methinks its converting audio, but not video, even though video is also of course being asked to convert09:40
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reverendnathanThat's right09:40
reverendnathanTo MPEG1 or MPEG409:40
reverendnathanNeither work, and the outputted MPEG4 files crash VLC if I try to play them back09:40
Ash-FoxVLC can't play the resulting video?09:40
reverendnathanCorrect.09:41
pollyoDoes the VM Server also allow one to use partitions or is that only in the VM workstation?09:41
xtavaresx_!lame09:41
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB09:41
Ash-Foxreverendnathan, well, I think I better forward you to #videolan because I don't know what todo at this point :<09:41
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reverendnathanAlright09:42
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reverendnathanLooks like everyone is taking a nap over at #videolan :(09:47
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Hacking_Definedcan some on help me ?09:50
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LynoureHacking_Defined: No idea yet. Maybe if you tell them what problem you have..09:52
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patridgekis there any way to detect the font on a certain (browser) window by simply selecting it?09:56
patridgekis there any way to detect the font on a certain (browser) window by simply selecting the text?09:56
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Hacking_Definedi ude adsl and when i connect to te web after a coppole of minutes i need to diconnect using poff and connect again pon dsl-provider if i want to use mozille or kconquer can some onehelp me ?09:57
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patridgekHacking_Defined: you can write a script09:57
dystopianrayis it illegal to download and use libxine-extracodecs? or is it only the redistribution that is illegal?09:58
jeanmasshi !09:59
jeanmassi've configured pppoeconf09:59
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jeanmassbut when i am disconnected09:59
jeanmassit do not automatically reconnect09:59
jeanmasshow can i fix that?09:59
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patridgekHacking_Defined: instead of the normal "firefox" entry menu, create another one with: "pon && firefox; poff"10:01
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Lynourepatridgek: there is whatthefont site, but even for that you need a image of the font.10:02
patridgekLynoure: so there's no local app?10:03
Lynourepatridgek: if it is window you control, you can check the font in the settings (or for webpages, the source)10:03
Lynourepatridgek: but for random fonts in images or such, no app, sorry.10:03
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patridgekLynoure: i see, thank you10:04
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jeanmassanybody knows?10:07
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Jucatojeanmass: pon dsl-provider  (that's the default)10:10
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jeanmassi know pon dsl-provider10:12
jeanmassbut ma connection disconnects often10:13
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jeanmassi wish kde to reconnect auto10:13
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Jucatoafaik, it attempts to reconnect a couple of times10:13
Jucato(it's also not KDE handling this anymore)10:13
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tackat_If somebody would like to try Marble: http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble14.png here are packages (they work for Edgy): http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble_0.2-3_i386.deb http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble-data_0.2-3_all.deb10:14
jeanmassbut i always have to pon dsl-provider manualy when it disconnects10:14
Jucatoooh nice tackat_. might want to announce in #kubuntu-devel as well10:15
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hordeEvery time I restart my laptop I have to reconnect to my network manually.  Anyone know how to make it automatic?10:15
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tackat_Beware though: It's (pretty stable) beta software ;-)10:16
Jucatotackat_: as long as it doesn't suddenly delete my $HOME :)10:16
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tackat_Jucato: it won't crash and it won't delete anything10:17
tackat_;)10:17
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hordeEvery time I restart my laptop I have to reconnect to my network manually.  Anyone know how to make it automatic?  I'm very new at this so am I just being stupid?10:33
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AbortDcan u download server tools if u didnt download the server version10:36
AbortD?10:36
dystopianrayAbortD: yes, everything is in the repos10:36
AbortDniceee10:36
AbortDhavent used ubuntu in awhile10:37
AbortDhope i still know what im doing10:37
AbortDwhen is feisty coing out?10:37
dystopianrayapril 1910:37
Jucatoor later10:37
AbortDhaha10:37
AbortDhope im not in jail10:37
AbortDthats my court date10:37
JucatoO.o10:37
roobdrug offence?10:37
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AbortDnot paying fines for a dui/paraphenalia/no front plate/broken windshield/seat belt10:38
AbortDbut all i got was the dui :P10:38
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Jucatowow....10:39
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AbortDare they gonna stop making ubuntu when they get to z?10:39
dystopianrayz?10:40
AbortDhold10:40
hordecan anyone help me with my problem?10:41
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roobhorde - there is a file called /etc/network/interfaces if your network connection is in there.. then you can use auto to make it come up10:41
norbiahi10:41
norbiacan anybody tellme how can i use dpkg?10:42
AbortDwtf warty warthog?10:42
horderoob: I checked that....all interfaces are set to auto.10:42
dystopianraynorbia: man dpkg10:42
AbortDwhats up with the ridiculous name10:42
Jucato!dpkg | norbia10:42
ubotunorbia: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.10:42
AbortDand feisty fawn doesnt sound too cool feisty fox is better10:42
Jucatobah...10:42
Jucatonorbia: sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb10:42
dystopianrayAbortD: fork ubuntu and introduce names you like better10:43
Jucatonorbia: or just right-click on the .deb file and select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package10:43
norbiak10:43
JucatoAbortD: you can always call it by it's real version name10:43
AbortDwhat ubuntu 7.04?/////10:43
Jucatoyes10:44
norbiai ve got a conant modem i m using Kubuntu 6.06 where can i get the driver?10:44
roobhorde: wireless or wired?10:44
Jucato!modem10:44
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto10:44
horderoob: wireless10:44
roobencryption?10:44
hordeWEP10:44
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roob(come on man.. you need to be really detailed when asking questions)10:44
AbortD:|10:44
norbiai tried with KPPP but it doesnt detect my modem10:44
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Contrast83What's up, everyone?10:45
horde64-bit wep?10:45
Jucatonorbia: have you seen that web page ^^^10:45
Contrast83Are there any Feisty users in here that have had problems with k9copy?10:45
roobhorde: so what do you do to fix it when your pc starts?10:45
horderoob:  This is my first time in the forums, man.  I'm just starting Linux.10:45
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JucatoContrast83: try #ubuntu+1 for feisty issues10:46
roobhorde: from how you introduced this.. it sounds like you have gotten it going.. but want it to startup automatically. what do you do to get it going?10:46
Contrast83Thanks, Jucato.10:46
hordeI go to the wireless assistant, find my network and reconnect manually10:46
hordewlassistant10:47
roobyou will need to define everything about the wireless interface within /etc/network/interfaces including the wep key10:47
AbortDcan ubuntu get into ntfs file systems?10:47
pirothezeroanyone know how to have split screen in konqueror so that when you open it both screens are on the same directory and not one as a browser and one as a file manager?10:48
hordeauto eth110:48
norbiaabortdD i dont know the init strings for my modem and the defaults is not working10:48
hordeiface eth1 inet dhcp10:48
roobAbortD: yes.. but read only (without alot of work)10:48
Jucato!ntfs | AbortD10:48
ubotuAbortD: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:48
hordewireless-essid *****10:48
hordewireless-key s:*****10:48
AbortDah cool i could care less about writing for now10:48
AbortDjust want to access my music10:48
AbortDand i wanted to fucking make the partition fat32 but pt magic hates me10:49
waylandbill!language10:49
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:49
Jucato!language10:49
Jucatobah :)10:49
Contrast83pirothezero: Set it the way you want it to look when you open it, then Settings -> Save View Profile, and save it as slick Save10:49
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waylandbillHiya Jucato10:49
Contrast83click*10:49
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AbortDyeah yeah yeah i forgot10:50
roob!fuse10:50
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse10:50
Jucato!ntfs-3g10:50
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)10:50
pirothezeroya thats what I been doing, but when i open it up again the top is just a tab for browser and the bottom is the file manager10:50
pirothezeroi just want to tear the browser capability out of it lol10:50
AbortDi dont want the chance of losing my collections10:50
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horderoob: auto eth110:51
hordeiface eth1 inet dhcp10:51
hordewireless-essid STEAK10:51
hordewireless-key s:tk42110:51
waylandbillAbortD: rather than p.m. you may want to use gparted or qparted10:51
dystopianrayAbortD: if you don't want any chance, don't let anything read or write to it, including windows10:51
horderoob: do I need to define it further?10:51
AbortDp.m.?10:52
hordefake essid/key, obviously10:52
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waylandbillAbortD: partition magic.10:55
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AbortDohhhh10:55
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AbortDcan i make a file system fat32 without losing the information in it?10:56
norbiaabortD that page is useless for me10:56
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AbortDnorbia10:56
AbortDwhy do you keep saying my name?10:56
AbortDwho are you?10:56
norbiai m human10:57
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norbiai got doubts10:57
waylandbillAbortD: you mean change the file system? you need to get the data off of it first.10:57
AbortDwaylandbill do you understand this guy?10:57
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tony_How do I get postgres running to allow remote TCP connections or where is the script that starts postgres at bootup10:57
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AbortDthats what i didnt want to do was move the data10:58
AbortD:P10:58
_BS_What is the easiest way to get up a windows explorer like file viewer with a directory tree on the right and a multi-column view on the right, with each side synced to the other? (FRUSTRATED!)10:58
waylandbillAbortD: you'll want to back it up anyway10:58
utnubuk_BS_ i think wine has something like that built in10:58
AbortDit is my backup directory :P10:58
waylandbillAbortD: :)10:59
AbortDthats what i use to access important files :P10:59
_BS_utnubuk: Sorry, no, I mean within Kubuntu. Either I can't seem to get Konqueror to behave that way, or I need to use a different app.10:59
pirothezeroanyone know how to take off the google search box in the top right in konqueror?10:59
pirothezerocant find it anywhere in the customize toolbars10:59
dystopianraypirothezero: settings -> configure extensions10:59
pirothezeroty11:00
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utnubuk_BS_ i dont know about using konqueror to get that effect, but wine file does exactly what youre talking about11:01
waylandbill_BS_: use konqueror's sidebar. It can show a tree view.11:01
AbortDwaylandbill i have one more question i have my windows partition then a partition on the end of my drive can ubuntu go in the middle?11:01
AbortDbootloader has to be in the beginning doesnt it?11:01
_BS_waylandbill: I tried that, but even with root I don't get /, and I don't get all the directories. Just those in it's 'wisdom' it chooses to show me.11:02
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_BS_utnubuk: Isn't wine the windows emulator?11:02
waylandbillAbortD: in the free space, yes. And the boot loader goes in the mbr.11:02
AbortDah11:02
AbortDi havent used ubuntu since the edgy release11:02
AbortDsorry11:02
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utnubuk_BS_: yup, but i think i somehow got a bunch of dev stuff on my lappy and now a prog called wine file shows up in utilities11:03
waylandbillwine is not an emulator.11:03
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utnubuk_BS_: but i just checked out what waylandbill said and i see a tree including root without a problem11:03
JisaoI do to, _BS_11:04
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Tm_T_BS_: http://www.tm-travolta.net/temp/Konqi-split.png11:04
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Tm_T_BS_: like that?11:04
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dystopianrayTm_T: what icon set is that?11:05
Tm_Tdystopianray: Oxygen11:05
utnubukTm_T: sweet desktop man11:05
_BS_Ok, I go view / show navigation panel. Hit root, and the right shows as I expect. However, in the navigation panel, right under root, I expect to see all the directories I also see on the right. (Am I only seeing mount points?)11:05
dystopianrayTm_T: even the 'back' 'forward' buttons? :S they are ugly11:05
Tm_Tdystopianray: I am11:06
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Tm_T!hidden11:06
ubotuKubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)11:06
Tm_T_BS_: like that? ;)11:06
dystopianrayTm_T: you run suse?11:06
dystopianray_BS_: $ sudo rm /.hidden11:07
Tm_Tdystopianray: nope, just took kickoff11:07
Tm_T!kickoff11:07
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233111:07
dystopianrayah11:07
_BS_Interesting pic, thanks. (Still working on how to get there.) What are the two panels on the right. The tab says they're both the same place, but they're showing different things.11:07
_BS_I'm misunderstanding something. Show hidden files is already selected.11:08
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dystopianray_BS_: did you delete /.hidden ?11:09
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_BS_Got it. mv .hidden .hiddenNOT - voila. THANK YOU!11:10
_BS_OH THAT'S IRRITATING!11:10
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dystopianrayjust delete it11:11
dystopianrayand yes it's very annoying, luckily kubuntu devs came to their senses for 7.0411:11
waylandbill:)11:11
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dystopianrayTm_T: is that a amarok applet in the lower left corner, and a moodbar on it?11:12
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ffffuhi i need help on the open office ..after installing edgy.. i'm using this open office, but it doesn't spell check.. is it because i didn't install dictionary?11:14
ffffuif so how do i install?11:14
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BauldrickShould Knetworkmanager auto detect my setting? I cant seem to configure it11:16
dystopianrayBauldrick: autodetect what?11:16
Bauldrickmy wirless connection11:17
dystopianrayffffu: what language dictionary do you want?11:17
dystopianrayBauldrick: what exactly do you want it to autodetect?11:17
Bauldrickdyst: I want it to detect my wireless cionnection when Kubuntu starts11:17
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dystopianrayBauldrick: oh, you mean you want knetworkmanager to start automatically when you login?11:18
Bauldrickdyst: yep thats it, but at the moment I cant even configure it11:18
dystopianrayBauldrick: edgy or dapper?11:19
ffffudystopianray: english - us11:19
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ffffudystopianray: i set my localle to en already11:19
Bauldrickdyst:edgy on a laptop, not that that makes a difference?11:20
dystopianrayffffu: it should have a US english dictionary by default11:20
ffffui tried apt-get install myspell-en-us but it says its installed11:20
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ffffuyeah it can spell check but it says all my spells are correct all the time..even if i explicitly spell wrong11:20
dystopianrayffffu: have you configured OO.org to use the US english language?11:20
ffffudo u guys get the same problem?11:20
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dystopianrayBauldrick: in what way acn you not configure it?11:21
dystopianrayBauldrick: it just doens't show any interfaces or something?11:21
Bauldrickdyst: it sitting in the system tray with an x in it - in its options i cant see any networks11:22
Tm_Tdystopianray: it's amarok itseld11:22
Tm_Titself11:22
dystopianrayTm_T: a script you installed within amarok?11:22
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Tm_Tdystopianray: no, amarok playerwindow11:22
ffffuyes i set the language to english-uk11:22
ffffuuk is fine with me11:22
dystopianrayoh11:23
dystopianrayffffu: why do you have it set to uk english if you want american spell checking??11:23
orange1hm11:23
ffffui set it to us but its the same......11:24
Bauldrickdyst:wireless assistant wireless lan manager is controling things at the moment, do they conflict or something?11:24
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dystopianrayffffu: does it have the little 'abc' spell check icon next to the us english setting?11:24
dystopianrayBauldrick: probably, close wireless assitant11:25
ffffuunder writing aid, i have all the available language ticked11:26
ffffuone is hunspell spellchecker11:26
ffffuanother is new thesaurus11:26
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ffffuno icons..11:27
KiPSeRoNhi all i have problem when i try to power on virtual machine i get error "unable to change virtual machine power state:process exited with an error:11:27
KiPSeRoNEnd of error message.how can i fix it i run it on kubuntu 6.1011:27
KiPSeRoN ?11:27
ffffuuser -d11:27
dystopianrayffffu: do you have the en-us thesaurus thing installed too?11:27
ffffuuser-defined dictionaries - ubuntu, soffice, ignorealllist, standard english11:27
ffffulet me check11:27
ffffuen-us thesaurus package is call what/?11:28
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dystopianrayffffu: grep dpkg -l for en-us11:29
ffffuopenoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us is already the newest version.11:29
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ffffuis it some steps i didn't do when installing edgy? i isntalled 3 computers but all doesn't seem to do the spell check properly11:30
ffffumyspell-en-us is already the newest version.11:31
krautmoin11:31
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ffffuopenoffice.org-help-en-us is already the newest version.11:31
dystopianrayffffu: try running sudo update-openoffice-dicts11:31
dystopianrayffffu: also, try running oowriter with sudo then going to 'file -> wizards -> install new dictionaries' then follow the prompts to install what language you want11:32
ffffuhmm i'm in the screen DicOOo where there's only a cancel button there11:35
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ffffuthis is so weird11:35
PhinnForthow can i temporary turn of caching on a hard-drive11:35
dystopianrayffffu: the dialog is too small horizontally? happened to me too11:35
PhinnForti have an old drive with a broken cache i want to back up11:36
ffffui using tab now11:36
ffffuyeah..too small horizontally11:36
dystopianrayPhinnFort: you can't, it's something the drive does transparently of the OS11:36
PhinnFortdystopianray: i thought i could control it with hdparm11:36
PhinnFortturn it off on the drive11:36
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dystopianrayffffu: click on the icon on the top left of hte window title border thing, and go to 'advanced -> special application setting' and then set then force a larger horizontal size of the window11:37
dennis_hi there, i try to run tremulous on mij pc, but after installation i get nothing but errors... From11:37
dennis_couldn't exec autogen.cfg11:37
dennis_couldn't exec autoexec.cfg11:37
dennis_Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok11:37
dennis_----- Client Initialization -----11:37
dystopianrayPhinnFort: maybe, try reading the man page11:37
PhinnFortdystopianray: ok11:37
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dennis_shit, sorry about that11:37
dystopianrayffffu: installing the dictionary as root means it's installed globally, you can also do it on a per-user basis by doing it as a user11:38
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ffffui'm on the fetch list or something11:39
ffffubut doesn't have anything11:39
dystopianrayyou have to click the button to fetch the list11:39
dystopianrayand then select the dictionary you want11:39
dystopianrayffffu: did you force the window size to be greater so you can see everything?11:40
ffffui click on retrieve the list.. nothing happened, after awhile the window closed..nope can't force the window size its locked11:41
ffffuDicOOo 1.5.511:41
ffffuset /etc/openoffice/dictionary.1st to +r for all11:41
dystopianrayffffu: it's not locked, click on the icon on the left of the window border heading, click 'advanced -> speical application settings' and force the window to a greater size11:41
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ExpositionOfEvilcan someone help me11:43
ExpositionOfEvilwith my http server11:43
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: you have to tell us the problem first11:43
ExpositionOfEvilok11:43
unix_infidelanyone here done a herd to beta distupgrade yet?11:43
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ExpositionOfEvilwhen I connect to my server I get my linksys settings11:43
ExpositionOfEvil...11:43
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PhinnForthmm, i get "dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error" every 946 kb until about 2 mb11:43
dystopianrayPhinnFort: drive sounds pretty screwed11:44
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ExpositionOfEvilhas never happened to me before11:44
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dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: how are you connecting to it? are you connecting via a lan? or over the internet?11:44
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ExpositionOfEvillan11:44
ExpositionOfEvilbefore I could connect to it11:44
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: are you connecting ot the right ip address?11:44
ExpositionOfEvilyes11:44
PhinnFortdystopianray: it's the old drive from my 486, i thought maybe i could play around with it in qemu11:44
ffffuic got the size right now..11:45
ExpositionOfEviland linksys comes up on my computer ip11:45
ExpositionOfEvilnot my net ip11:45
ffffuits connecting to server coutning down 5..4..11:45
ffffuand hang11:45
ffffuhmmm!!!!!11:45
dystopianrayffffu: just wait11:45
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: are you absolutely certain that you have the correct ip??11:45
ExpositionOfEvilyes11:45
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: try going to http://localhost11:45
ExpositionOfEvilunknown11:46
ExpositionOfEvilthats wierd11:46
orange1someone say my name11:46
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: try changing the IP of your router11:46
PhinnFortorange1 is a prick11:46
PhinnFort:D11:46
orange1....11:46
ExpositionOfEvilreset?11:46
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PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: no, change the ip11:47
dystopianraywhat happens if you browse to you router's ip?11:47
ExpositionOfEvilI get the settings11:47
ffffuwaiting..11:47
ExpositionOfEvilthen if I got my other ip its the same11:47
dystopianrayPhinnFort: that's likely to break his entire network11:47
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: do you have some crazy iptables rule that is redirecting incoming connections?11:47
PhinnFortdystopianray: he can change it back afterwards11:47
ExpositionOfEvilI got no iptables set11:47
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: try to flush your iptables11:48
PhinnFortsudo iptables -F11:48
ExpositionOfEvilyep11:48
ExpositionOfEvilno output11:49
PhinnFortstill happens?11:49
ExpositionOfEvillet me see11:49
PhinnFortit shouldn't11:49
ExpositionOfEvilyup11:49
AniHatzisToday I experience often trouble to launch some of my applications: Kontact, Konqueror, KWallet. They start (I can see the processes), but I can't see dialogs in KDE. I have to reboot or restart session... not sure what exactly helps (sometimes nothing of both)11:49
ExpositionOfEvilits asking for authorization to access router configs11:49
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: i assume the webserver is on your local machine?11:49
ExpositionOfEvilyes11:49
PhinnFortwhat happens when you try to go to 127.0.0.1?11:49
AniHatzisKubuntu 6.1011:50
ExpositionOfEvilproblem11:50
PhinnFort?11:50
ExpositionOfEvilunable to access11:50
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: are you sure your webserver is running?11:50
PhinnFortsudo /etc/init.d/apache restart11:50
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: what ip address is it that you think is yours?11:51
ExpositionOfEvilprivate =)11:51
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: also, do an ifconfig -a11:51
PhinnFortdystopianray: if you type in your external IP, you will get the router11:51
PhinnFortbecause it's the router that's handling it11:51
dystopianrayno I want the internal lan ip11:51
PhinnFort*s/dystopianray/exposition11:51
ExpositionOfEvil192?11:51
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ExpositionOfEvil192.128.1.10511:52
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: your public/external/internet ip will always get you to your router11:52
PhinnFortor it should11:52
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: yes, what is the ip address that you think is yours11:52
orange1where are all the sounds stored ?11:52
orange1soundfiles11:52
dystopianrayorange1: sounds for what?11:52
PhinnFortorange1: /usr/share/sounds maybe?11:52
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: what ip does your router have?11:52
orange1PhinnFort: thanks ....pri....11:52
PhinnFortnp11:52
ExpositionOfEviluhh11:52
ExpositionOfEvilohh11:53
ExpositionOfEvil192.168.1.10211:53
ExpositionOfEvilinet address11:53
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dystopianraywhat happens if visit 192.168.1.102?11:53
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waylandbill192.168.1.1 usually what linksys routers are factory set for.11:53
ExpositionOfEvillol11:54
ExpositionOfEvilmy site11:54
ExpositionOfEvilthats local only tho11:54
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: try using a php proxy to test your site from the outside11:54
PhinnFortworldwideproxy.com or similar11:54
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: oh, you mean your router config is coming up on your external ip?11:54
ExpositionOfEvilyes11:54
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: sounds like you have your router configured to allow remote administration11:55
dystopianrayExpositionOfEvil: what is the model of the router?11:55
PhinnFortdystopianray: he is on the inside11:55
PhinnFortdystopianray: that wouldn't be remote11:55
ExpositionOfEvilwrt54gl11:55
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: try going to worldwideproxy.com and entering your IP11:55
ExpositionOfEvilk11:56
dystopianrayis his router config appearing on his external ip?11:56
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PhinnFortdystopianray: only when on the inside, probably11:56
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PhinnForti have experienced the same thing11:56
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PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: what do you get?11:56
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ExpositionOfEvilconnection timed out11:56
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: your router doesn't allow remote administration;)11:57
ExpositionOfEvilerr11:57
ExpositionOfEvilso if u connected to my site it would bring up the router11:58
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: it would time out11:58
PhinnFortExpositionOfEvil: you haven't set up forwaring11:58
PhinnFort*forwarding11:58
ExpositionOfEvilhmm11:58
ExpositionOfEvilwhat port?11:58
PhinnForton your router11:58
PhinnFort8011:58
ExpositionOfEvilthanks11:58
PhinnFortnp11:58
ExpositionOfEvilaye11:59
ExpositionOfEvilI think I disabled that11:59
ExpositionOfEvilI had that port set but disabled11:59
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PhinnFortok11:59
PhinnForttry going to worldwideproxy again11:59
ExpositionOfEvilthank you soo much!11:59
ExpositionOfEvilworks11:59
PhinnFortif it is working, you should be getting your site;)11:59
PhinnFortyou are very welcome;)12:00
ExpositionOfEvil=)12:00
ExpositionOfEvilgood night12:00
PhinnFortnighty night12:00
PhinnFortwtf12:00
dystopianrayhehe12:00
PhinnFortis hdparm's good by default, in kubuntu?12:00
dystopianraywith himself no doubt12:00
PhinnFortor his right hand12:01
dystopianrayPhinnFort: you're having trouble with it?12:01
PhinnFortdystopianray: it's just a bit sluggish12:01
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jeanmassgood night12:03
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jeanmassi've problems when to open wengophone12:03
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zbenjaminhi @ all12:04
jeanmass./wengophone: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:04
zbenjaminis it possible to only allow root to change the system?12:04
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Jucato!sudo | zbenjamin12:05
ubotuzbenjamin: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:05
dystopianrayzbenjamin: you want to turn off sudo?12:06
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Jucatoroot is really the only one that can change the system. sudo is a way to sort of temporarily give you root privileges.12:08
|orange|hm12:09
zbenjamindystopianray, i want that you can get root privileges only with the root password12:09
dystopianrayzbenjamin: give root a password and don't put anyone in the admin group12:09
Jucatozbenjamin: read that link above then12:09
|orange|how can i tell if i have edgy or fiesty?12:09
zbenjaminthanks for your help12:10
Jucato|orange|: lsb_release -12:10
Jucato|orange|: lsb_release -a12:10
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|orange|Jucato: thanks12:11
AniHatzisKubuntu 6.10: Since today I experience massive problems to launch apps (Konqueror, KWallet, Kontact,...). Processes are started, but no dialogs appear after "launch feedback" shown.12:14
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|orange|Jucato: how would i go about recovering some deleted files (drive was formatted)12:15
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Jucatohm? if you formatted the drive, I don't think you can recover files from it12:15
Jucatonot without specialized software12:15
_4strOit's possbile with some soft12:16
_4strObut dont know in linux12:16
|orange|i know getbackdataNTFS for windows but nix.. no idea12:16
Jucatoyeah, like I said, specialized software :)12:16
_4strOmmm12:16
_4strOi have an idea where to find one :p12:17
|orange|where12:17
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epimethahoy folks!12:18
dystopianrayuse foremost to recover data12:18
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epimethgood command line torrent program anyone?12:18
chijinrtorrent12:19
_4strOJucato: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk12:19
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dystopianrayrtorrent12:19
epimethcheers dystopianray12:20
dystopianraytestdisk doesn't recover files12:20
|orange|if i wanted to get online at my school's limited connection but use my home pc's internet while at school -- what would i need to research12:20
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dystopianray|orange|: http://foremost.sourceforge.net/12:20
|orange|dystopianray: apt-get is installing some things for me -- adept should have foremost right?12:21
dystopianray|orange|: do you have to go through a proxy at school?12:21
dystopianray|orange|: no idea, I only use the cli tools12:21
mikehuntany java programmers in here?12:21
dystopianraymikehunt: what sort of problem are you having?12:21
|orange|mikehunt: depends - how good do i have to be12:21
epimethmikehunt: me12:21
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|orange|dystopianray: thats what im tryin to recover - my java projects12:22
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epimeth|orange|: what do you mean by 'foremost' ?12:22
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dystopianrayepimeth: it's a tool to recover data from drives12:22
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ubuntuhi12:23
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epimethdystopianray: oh...lol... missed your previous post12:23
epimethanybody heard of the Easy Star All-Stars?12:23
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mikehunt2I have an ArrayList<javax.mail.search.SearchTerm> and trying to get an array out of it, with toArray(), but there's some kind of casting problem12:24
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|orange|ubuntu ultimate has quite the gloomy look12:24
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boidocanyone know the way to fix an error 21 with grub12:25
epimeth|oran12:25
mikehunt2specifically this:  ArrayList<SearchTerm> terms = new ArrayList<SearchTerm>();  //  then I add the terms to ArrayList  ;  SearchTerm query = new AndTerm((SearchTerm[] ) terms.toArray());12:26
epimeth|orange|: what, exactly, is the error and the line?12:26
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|orange|epimeth: u mean boidoc?12:26
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mikehunt2it compiles fine but throws an error in Tomcat12:27
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epimethSearchTerm is not of type Array12:28
epimethit compiles???  thats shocking12:28
mikehunt2....12:28
epimeth|orange|: boidoc?12:28
mikehunt2an ArrayList of SearchTerm will return an array of SearchTerm's with the toArray() method12:29
_4strOepimeth: what about easy start allstar ?12:29
_4strOepimeth: what about easy star allstar ?12:29
epimeth_4strO: was at there concert last night... just excited about it :-)12:29
jeanmassi've problems when to open wengophone12:29
jeanmass./wengophone: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:29
jeanmassi downloaded the deb from their website12:30
_4strOepimeth: they play dark side of the moon in dub version ?12:30
_4strOfunny a friend just give me the CD yesterday :p12:30
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zbenjaminjeanmass, it seems that the libssl.so.0.9.7 library is not installed on your system12:31
epimethmikehunt2; SearchTerm is not of type SearchTerm[] 12:31
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boidocstage 1.512:32
boidocGRUB loading stage1.512:32
boidoc12:32
boidoc12:32
boidoc GRUB loading, please wa12:32
jeanmassshouldnt it be automaticaly installeD?12:32
boidocsorry for thqt12:32
zbenjaminjeanette_,12:32
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zbenjaminjeanette_, sorry wrong nick12:32
jeanmassi tried sudo apt-get libssl.so.0.9.712:32
boidocthenm error 2112:32
jeanmassi tried sudo apt-get install libssl.so.0.9.712:32
jeanmassbut do not work12:33
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epimeth_4strO: select songs... they played about equal parts dub side, radiodread, and their own stuff12:33
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zbenjaminjeanmass, it should but maybe they forgot something look in your lib directories if you find libssl12:33
zbenjamin/usr/lib /usr/local/lib12:33
jeanmassok12:33
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jeanmassthere is /usr/lib/ssl12:34
rickymplhello everyone, i'm having trouble with my kde taskbar, sometimes even though I close a window o program, that window remains in the taskbar, i can't close it or do anything with it, it just remains there and after a while it disppears12:34
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dystopianrayjeanmass: libssl0.9.712:35
jeanmassdystopianray: ?12:35
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dystopianrayjeanmass: install that package12:36
zbenjaminjeanette_, you can do a apt-cache search libssl and the how the package is named12:36
jeanmassok dystopianray12:36
zbenjaminjeanette_, wrong nick again... my keyboard must be broken ... sorry again12:36
zbenjaminjeanmass, the apt-cache search tip was for you12:37
|orange|it takes 45s to boot up to login -- but once i install ndiswrapper + wifi drivers - it takes almost 4 minutes... during bootup i hit ALT+1 to see whats loading -- its just scanning hd as12:37
jeanmasszbenjamin: i dont know what that is12:37
|orange|normal but takes 3-4x longer12:37
zbenjaminjeanmass,  a command line programm like apt-get12:38
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jeanmasssudo apt-caches search libssl?12:38
zbenjaminapt-cache12:38
jeanmassand it gives me a similar package?12:38
zbenjaminthat should give you the name of the libssl package12:38
jeanmassexcenlent!12:38
_4strO!apt-cache | jeanmass12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
jeanmassi installed the missing library12:38
_4strO!apt | jeanmass12:38
ubotujeanmass: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:38
hacked_kernelI get this error when opening synaptic "12:38
hacked_kernelE: The package conexant needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.12:38
hacked_kernelE: Internal error opening cache (1)12:38
jeanmassand now wengophone works!12:38
dystopianrayjeanmass: you installed what I suggested?12:39
|orange|!eclipse12:39
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ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB12:39
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epimeth|orange|: eclipse is pretty good...12:40
|orange|epimeth: yep - i like it12:41
|orange|hm12:41
jeanmassdystopianray: yes, the missing lib12:43
jeanmassthanx mate12:43
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mikehunt3anybody like the scissor sisters?12:47
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pc2hey guys12:48
pc2i have a ask.....12:48
_4strOhey12:48
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pc2one ask12:48
pc2i can.....??12:48
_4strOno ... bye see ya ...12:48
_4strO:p12:49
pc2:)12:49
pc2astro12:49
pc2i need install amsn on my box12:49
pc2but12:49
pc2not have a password of root12:49
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pc2u can help me??12:49
NullbyteWhats the problem, pc2?12:50
_4strOpc2: think it's not possible12:50
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pc2[12:49]  <pc2> i need install amsn on my box12:50
pc2[12:49]  <pc2> but12:50
pc2[12:49]  <pc2> not have a password of root12:50
Nullbyteuse sudo?12:50
pc2mmm12:50
pascalHow do I copy users from one ubuntu machine to another... Just the users, not the files12:50
epimethpc2: what happens when you type 'sudo echo "test"' in the command line (without ')12:50
pc2i have a kde 3.512:50
hsystem-xor you can use passwd with sudo and set a password for root ^^12:51
epimethpc2: and then enter your passwrod12:51
dystopianraypascal: you want to mass copy a bunch of users?12:51
hsystem-xthen do a su ^^12:51
waylandbill!sudo12:51
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:51
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pascaldystropianrey yes12:51
pc2the command for sett sudo password??12:51
pascaldystropianray yes12:51
NullbyteSo, does anyone know how I make ripping CDs faster? x)12:51
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dystopianrayNullbyte: buy a faster cdrom drive12:52
pc2hehe12:52
_4strOlol12:52
waylandbill:)12:52
Nullbytedystopianray: Its not that easy, sadly12:52
pascaldystopianray Do you know how to do it?12:52
_4strOpascal : you can copy /etc/passwd12:52
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hsystem-xok you can use sudo with your password. That will give you privileges to do what you want to do. But you also can assign a password for the root account.12:52
hsystem-xMaking sudo passwd12:52
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hsystem-xthat will ask you for a password.12:53
dystopianraypascal: copying /etc/passwd might work.. if the systems are identical enough12:53
pascaldystopianray I don't need to do any more?12:53
pascalthey are12:53
pascaltop dollar :-) Thanks12:53
dystopianraypascal: /etc/shadow will need updating too12:53
waylandbillisn't /etc/passwd shadowed though?12:53
_4strOpascal : u will only have the account on each box12:53
dystopianraypascal: and /etc/group12:53
waylandbill:)12:53
pascalhow?12:53
_4strOnot the home dir12:54
hsystem-xthen if you do that, you can login in the console as root.12:54
pabstdoes anyone use Automatix?12:54
hsystem-xmaking su.12:54
waylandbill!automatix | pabst12:54
ubotupabst: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:54
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epimethpc2: you really don't have to set the roort password... in fact, you probably shouldn't.12:54
epimethpc2: its best to just use sudo12:54
epimethpc2: when it asks for a password, it is *your* password, not root12:54
pabstthanks12:54
pascaldystopianray. So I copy passwd group and shadow. Do I need to run any command afterwards?12:54
hsystem-xyeah but sometimes is annoying to do all the time sudo :S.12:55
hsystem-xi personally use sudo.12:55
pc2yes but i dont have a passwor of this machine12:55
pc2do u understand??12:55
_4strOlol12:55
NullbyteDid you steal it? o_12:55
waylandbillpc2: I don't recommend setting a root password. you can always use sudo -i or sudo -s if you need to do alot of commands12:55
_4strOhe cant...12:55
pc2mmm i try12:55
dystopianraypascal: and /etc/group12:55
NullbyteWell, he can crack the password too12:55
dystopianraypascal: I would diff these files to see exactly what is different, randomly coyp these files could break things12:56
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pascaldystopianray: ok12:56
dystopianraycrack a password? just boot a livecd, chroot and run 'passwd'12:56
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pc2i can crack the password of root??12:56
NullbyteThats not always a possibility :B12:56
pc2and in my situation??12:57
dystopianraypc2: do you own this machine?12:57
epimethpc2: then how are you using the machine?12:57
NullbyteYes you can, but doing it the livecd way is easier, in your case12:57
NullbyteOh yeah, and how did you log in?12:57
pc2i dont own this machine12:57
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hsystem-xohh ^^12:58
Tirantestoy o no estoy ???12:58
pc2i am a normal client in this machine12:58
hsystem-xestas.12:58
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NullbyteThen you shouldnt install stuff on it, pc212:58
pc2exact12:58
Tirantla verdad es que no se donde estoy12:58
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dystopianraypc2: you will likely be disciplined for install software, if you need something, ask the admins12:58
hsystem-xIrc, canal de Kubuntu.12:58
pc2tirant abla espanol??12:58
Tirantes la primera vez que conecto esto12:58
_4strONullbyte: that the reason why he haven't the root paqsswd :p12:59
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Nullbyte4strO: orly12:59
Tirantsi, hablo espaol12:59
hsystem-xeste es el canal para suppor de kubuntu12:59
hsystem-xsupport*12:59
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NullbyteI guess so too, orange12:59
waylandbillpc2: if it's someone else's machine, maybe they can install it.12:59
_4strO!es | hsystem-x12:59
ubotuhsystem-x: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:59
elbingTirant, come with us to #kubuntu-es. There we talk spanish xD12:59
Tirantcomo puedo seleccionar el canal al que quiero ir ?12:59
|orange|!spanish01:00
elbingtype /join #channel01:00
Tirantvale, gracias01:00
elbing;)01:00
hsystem-xlol ^^01:00
hsystem-xi prefer english ^^01:00
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|orange|lol01:00
|orange|hsystem-x: so do i01:01
elbinghey khaled mardam bey has the blame. With mirc most of people have not idea about IRC01:01
|orange|dystopianray: foremost - have u used it before?01:01
epimeth!he01:01
ubotu        :01:01
ubotu/join #ubuntu-il01:01
dystopianray|orange|: no01:02
|orange|how can i tell if a process is taking up juice?01:03
elbingwhat kind of juice? orange juice?01:03
waylandbilltop01:03
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|orange|elbing: sure01:03
chijinIRC was originally invented in the city i live in01:03
elbingheh01:03
hsystem-x^^01:03
|orange|elbing: if its taking resources01:03
elbingchijin, and can you sleep knowing that?01:04
chijinelbing: heh01:04
hsystem-xyou can open KSysGuard to see how much resources a process is taking.01:04
epimethwaylandbill: was that purposely obscure? :-)01:04
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epimeth|orange|: top01:04
elbingor ps -A, and maybe viewing /proc01:05
waylandbillepimeth: not purposefully. :D01:05
|orange|epimeth: oo u meant top as in a command -- i just ignored it before01:05
hsystem-xit is located on the system section in the K menu ^^01:05
epimethwaylandbill: if I didn't know any better, i'd have thought you were directing me to see above... at the *best* case :-)01:05
epimeth|orange|: yes :-)01:06
elbingvery nice program, top01:06
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waylandbillksysguard's process tab can be brought up by simply hitting ctrl-esc01:06
hsystem-x^^01:06
|orange|top is telling me that kvirc is taking 100% cpu usage01:06
elbingyes, but we love konsole xD01:07
|orange|cant be right..01:07
waylandbillmaybe next time I'll just say 'man top01:07
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waylandbillor just obfuscate it. :-)01:07
elbingre ernesto01:07
JohnFlux|orange|: you should be using konversation :-D01:07
epimethwaylandbill: isn't that how it normally is, tho?  I enjoy it the other way, but the classics are often best :-)01:07
hsystem-x^^.01:08
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elbingof course: I prefer casablanca before gladiator01:08
elbing:p01:08
epimeth|orange|: its called leakage... not everyone makes high quality software01:08
elbingone vote for classics01:08
hsystem-xautomatix have been down a while. LOL01:08
|orange|JohnFlux: lol yes yes - but i found this already (preinstalled) on the desktop - it looks like a nice client01:08
waylandbillwhen konversation is mdi, I'll then use it.01:09
epimeth|orange|: you just *had* to be different, didn't you?!? well *that* is the price you pay, my friend!01:09
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Jucatowaylandbill: better start filing that wish then :P01:09
|orange|ubuntu ultimate ... gnome based but filled with kde progs01:09
epimethJucato! whened you get here?01:09
pc2hey guys but the command for identify in this server?'01:09
Jucatoepimeth: when you weren't looking (hiding behind JohnFlux01:09
waylandbillJucato: no doubt01:10
|orange|let me restart kvirc - brb01:10
epimethpc2: que???01:10
makii run autoremove and then i reinstall systemsettings and kcontrol but i dont have some options01:10
pc2the command for identify.....01:10
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elbingtype /msg NickSrv IDENTIFY or look ate MOTD for one time in your life01:10
rickympl!version01:10
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell01:10
Jucato <-- |orange| has left this server ("KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/"). <--- Anomalies? no wonder it was eating up the cpu :)01:10
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epimethelbing: don't be mean!01:11
elbingok I'll shut up01:11
epimethpc2: /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD01:11
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=== elbing backing underearth
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elbingI hate you epimeth01:12
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pc2[Errore]  NickSrv: nessun nick/canale con questo nome01:12
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pc2??01:12
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orange1now trying xchat - seems to be popular in add/remove list01:13
chijinnickserv, not nicksrv01:13
epimethpc2: necesitas hacer registration01:13
elbinghey hear chijin, in his town they invented IRC :p01:13
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chijinelbing: i actually study in the department where irc was born!01:13
CarinArrer bleh01:13
CarinArrin #irchelp i was going to say01:13
CarinArrsucks when you're being sarcastic and hit the wrong key01:14
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elbingchijin: telll to God about poor people in this channel :p01:14
elbings/telll/tell01:14
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dystopianraymaybe he has a fench keyboard, and the # is on the R key or something01:16
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dystopianrayfrench *01:16
=== Jucato is more annoyed at an Fn button being at the bottom left corner of laptops
CarinArrepimeth: uk keyboard01:16
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epimethJucato: *that* kills me... and mine is not, too! I keep hitting ctrl pageup trying to raise the volume... mine is between lcrtl and 'windows' buttin01:17
pc2hey guys if i dont remember my password to acces at server??01:17
epimeths/buttin/button01:17
elbingchijin: ist hot in Finland these days?01:17
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CarinArrshould be right left of the enter key, but this keyboard has it above the enter key and has the enter key double width01:17
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epimethCarinArr: I take part in your misery and sorrow... my friend has one of those01:17
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elbingpc2: take paper an a pencil, write your password and give it to your mom. It's the very best backup you can do01:17
stefano_help me01:17
CarinArractually.. it's not the uk keyboard that's the problem, all my keyboards are uk ones, just this one has moved the  key;)01:18
epimethstefano_: yes, sir!01:18
pc2elbing fuck01:18
epimethCarinArr: then I pity you and your foreign ways01:18
elbingah man, don angry with me :p01:18
CarinArrbetter than the thinkpad that has the fn key at the bottom left corner instead of ctrl01:18
epimethpc2: language!01:18
epimeth!language01:18
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:18
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myTB|Tanuvahmm.. Ive just booted may sys and emerald wont start anymore, but beryl itself does... Trying to start it manually (emeral --replace) results in... nothing...01:18
elbingI'm sorry pc2, it was just a joke01:18
myTB|Tanuva*my01:18
pc2ok01:18
myTB|Tanuvaany idea how to get it to work again?01:19
pc2yes01:19
pc2help me for example01:19
CarinArrmyTB|Tanuva: have you tried moving the .emerald folder temporarily to see if it's a setting in there causing the problem?01:20
myTB|Tanuvano. gonna try that...01:20
elbingmaybe dpkg reconfigure emerald01:20
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epimethpc2: no recuardas el password, o no registrar el usario?01:20
Jucato!es01:21
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:21
myTB|TanuvaI could make aptitude do a complete reinstall, but that wouldnt be the nice way...01:21
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epimethJucato: fine... I'll pm him :-p01:21
CarinArrmyTB|Tanuva: normally it's just a setting somewhere messing things up01:21
Jucatoepimeth: actually, you could just bring him over to those -es channels :)01:21
epimethJucato: foreign channels! never!01:22
JucatoO.o01:22
epimethpc2: come to #kubuntu-es... jucato will kick me if I keep talking en espanol :-)01:22
pc2epimeth i dont remember the passwor01:22
Jucatopc2: oh that's a problem...01:22
elbingepimeth: I can see you in kubuntu-es :p (ooops, I forgot back my hole)01:22
pc2yes01:22
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myTB|TanuvaCarinArr: the problem may be caused by the new xorg.conf written by the nvidia-configuration-thing - it also made xorg use a us kb layout...01:23
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CarinArrmyTB|Tanuva: it might have wiped the ARB setting thing01:23
myTB|Tanuvayea that could be the prob, taking a look at the config..01:24
pc2if i have lost the password... for rescue???01:24
CarinArrer argb even01:24
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ThomasZI'm running kubuntu-edgy with libc 2.4-1ubuntu12.3   I'm wondering if there are known problems since my own software started to crash in things like malloc() (according to gdb)01:25
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myTB|Tanuvayep the special settings are gone, need to set them again.01:25
pc2jucanto01:25
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pc2jucato01:25
CarinArrpc2: when did you last use the nickname?01:25
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pc2one day01:25
Jucatopc2: sorry, no idea. if you lost it01:26
pc2it possible?'01:26
CarinArrpc2: bleep wrong answer.. have you tried getting your own nickname instead of using someone elses?01:26
pc2its very simplex ptoblem01:26
pc2no no i dont remember .....01:26
pc2the my nick name register is elm4t4d0r01:27
pc2but i dont remember passwoer01:27
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pc2password01:27
epimethpc2: speak to ompaul, he'll set everything up for you01:27
CarinArrpc2: this really isn't a helpchannel for this sort of problem01:27
Jucatothat is not a "simple" problem01:28
elbinghttp://www.freenode.net01:28
epimethyou talk to him by typing /msg ompaul "your message"01:28
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pc2epimeth yes but if o dont register it i dont can speak01:28
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epimethpc2: have you tried?01:30
epimethpc2: I think you can talk to staffers even unregistered01:30
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rigvedNullbyte: hey01:31
rigvedNullbyte: I wrote to u on gmail with some ebooks... the mail just bounced back01:31
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rigvedNullbyte: Are u there brother01:32
Nullbyterigved: Oh, dang01:32
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rigvedNullbyte: how u doing01:32
Nullbyterigved: Quite well! Cant we talk in some channel? :)01:33
rigvedNullbyte: does gmail not accept chm attachments01:33
rigvedsure01:33
Nullbyte#rigved?01:33
waylandbillif it doesn't, gzip tarball them. :-)01:34
Nullbytegood idea :o01:34
rigvedya01:34
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tackatOk, I uploaded Marble to kde-apps: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Marble+-+Desktop+Globe?content=5510501:36
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[pyro] oops ran my machine out of space01:52
[pyro] time to burn some dvd's01:52
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frojndwhy is my usb 2GB space so slow?01:56
frojnddo I have to install some aditional drivers for that kind of USB ?01:57
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AniHatzis!kdesu01:58
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo01:58
frojnd!usb stick01:58
myTB|Tanuvafrojnd: I dont know if it applies to usb drives, too, but you may try enabling dma mode01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb stick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:58
frojnd!dma01:59
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA01:59
AniHatzis!x01:59
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:59
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tavanuxvbcv01:59
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BluesKajHowdy All  :)02:03
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N6REJmorning all02:05
AniHatzis!kio_file02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kio_file - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
AniHatzis!kio02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
AniHatzishi :)02:05
N6REJanyone know what "umb upper memory limit =ece6" means?02:05
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AniHatzis!kdeinit02:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdeinit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:06
LjL!pm the bot02:06
Jucato!botabuse | AniHatzis02:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pm the bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:06
ubotuAniHatzis: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:06
AniHatzissorry02:06
LjL!pm the bot is <alias> botabuse02:06
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL02:06
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LjLand do see !bot, there are facilities for searching for factoids02:07
LjL!find kdeinit | or files02:07
AniHatzisLjL: sorry again, and thanks02:07
ubotuor files: File kdeinit found in kdelibs-dbg, kdelibs4c2a, kdelibs502:07
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lucas_Hi02:10
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lucas_I'm looking for the feisty's channel ?02:11
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stdinlucas_: #ubuntu+1 and #kubuntu-devel (for kubuntu specific)02:12
AniHatzisi think #kubuntu+102:12
Jucato#ubuntu+102:12
AniHatzisok :)02:12
lucas_k because kubuntu+1 seems to be empty02:13
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lucas_thank you02:13
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NullbyteDo any of you guys know anything about DRI on ATI cards? :x02:14
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BluesKajNullbyte, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-202:15
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AniHatzisAny idea where I can learn why some of my KDE apps are not launched with a window and others do..., e.g. Konqueror has no dialog if started as normal user, but with kdesu it works fine.02:16
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BluesKajNullbyte , then ch.oose "Instructions for 6.10 (Edgy)"02:18
BluesKajerr choose02:18
dystopianrayAniHatzis: are there any errors in ~/.xsession-errors? or if you run the apps from a terminal, is there any error output?02:18
NullbyteThanks BluesKaj, but I kind of tried that02:19
AniHatzisdystopianray: I tried from terminal: no error output. no message. nothing. There is the cursor idling, like the same as it would work. but no dialog.02:19
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Mena!fiesty02:20
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)02:20
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MenaHi02:23
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MenaI installed Xp again after linux but this time i know the steps to enable the grub and i did it and nothing happned any idea ?02:24
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raffytaffyanyone haveany clue as to how to find out my ISP's MTU?02:25
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dystopianrayraffytaffy: ring them and ask02:26
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raffytaffyok thanks. since were are on the subject of MTU ..can a router with a MTU to high or to low cause itself to drop connection?02:26
AbortDkubuntu is reading my wireless card but when i try to connect it says failed anyone know y?02:26
MinceRyou could try pinging one of their routers with increasing packet sizes with the no fragment bit set02:26
MinceRthere are probably programs to do this already02:27
dystopianrayAbortD: what wireless card do you have?02:27
AbortDWMP54g02:27
AbortDlinksys02:27
AbortDit worked before02:27
AbortDon different installs02:27
raffytaffyany of you guys notice the odd issues regarding swap space not mounting lol02:27
dystopianrayraffytaffy: I don't think it'll drop connections, but there will be packet fragmentation with too high a MTU02:27
raffytaffyi c02:27
AniHatzisplease..... what's that?!? 10 minutes ago I tried to start Kontact. It didn't work (my "no dialog" problem of the day). And now, out of the sky, it started! I'm getting nuts!02:27
MinceRthat's nice, i have to go to the shop to get nuts02:28
AniHatzis:))02:28
raffytaffythis UUID buisness making it hard to compile and install kernels hehe02:28
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MenaI installed Xp again after linux but this time i know the steps to enable the grub and i did it and nothing happned any idea ?02:29
raffytaffytry super grub disk?02:29
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AniHatzis*snief* now even Konqueror comes with dialog again... I don't know what happens with me. I fall in love with Kubuntu, now it's playing tricks with me. :))02:29
Menaraffytafyy, you mean by floppy02:29
Menaraffytafyy, but how to do it or use any startup floppy ??!! :D02:30
raffytaffywell first i would try mounting the partition ; chrooting into it02:30
raffytaffyand seeing if the grub is in right place perhaps...just a thought02:30
Menaits in the right place02:30
AbortDdystopianray any idea?02:30
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raffytaffyi dont use floppies on this laptop. i use my sabayon dvd to fix my buntu grub02:31
dystopianrayAbortD: what driver does it use?02:31
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AbortDehhhh02:31
AbortDlet me check02:31
CarinArryou can use the live cd as well02:31
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raffytaffyyup^02:31
Menai did the grub steps (root (hd0,?) and then setup (hd0,?) and at first i searched the /boot/grub/stage1 and its in the place i wanted to be in the root ....So02:31
AbortDi used to be able to connect to the internet from the live cd with the ubuntu copy02:31
raffytaffy(hd0,#) not ?02:32
Menaits in my case (hd0,0)02:32
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raffytaffyhda1 is your root yes02:32
MenaYes02:33
raffytaffywhen u run setup02:33
raffytaffyu only put02:33
raffytaffy(hd0)02:33
raffytaffyno second #02:33
Menayes bec i cant find hda102:33
Menain the stage i02:33
Mena102:33
raffytaffyif your root is hda1 :  grub  --> root (hd0,0) ---> setup (hd0)02:34
CarinArrso find /boot/grub/stage1 returns (hd0,0)?02:34
AbortDdystopianray WMP54G ver.4.102:34
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AbortDi guess thats it?02:34
MenaCarinArr, yes02:34
AbortDhttp://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Download_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115417109934&packedargs=sku%3D1150490054358&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=0993454358B0302:34
CarinArryeah, what taffy says02:34
AbortDthats the webpage for it02:34
Menaraffytafyy, ok02:34
raffytaffyive done grub reinstall a million times lol02:34
Menaraffytafyy, but nothing happened after this steps02:34
CarinArri had to do it the other day02:35
Menaandd i also installed it again befor all this steps02:35
CarinArrslightly worried about having to do it a week into using a brand new laptop tho02:35
raffytaffyyour windows is (hd0,1) then02:35
CarinArrbut everything works fine so far fingers crossed02:35
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Menaraffytafyy, its on hda302:36
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raffytaffywhats hda202:36
Menahda2 swap02:36
N6REJcan anyone recommend a good distro for a K62-383 laptop?02:37
raffytaffyn6rej : lfs02:37
N6REJraffytaffy: lfs?02:37
raffytaffylinux from scrtch02:37
raffytaffyscratch*02:37
N6REJraffytaffy: OIC02:37
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N6REJk02:38
raffytaffyMena : are you installing grub from a live session?02:38
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MenaYes02:39
raffytaffydo you mount hda102:39
rickymplhelp, my print screen button doesnt take a screenshot anymore02:39
Menai dont remeber02:39
Menabut i guess yes02:39
raffytaffyok02:39
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dystopianrayAbortD: I need to know the driver it is using, the model of the card is irrelevant02:40
AbortDrt61?02:40
AbortDeither that or its rt250002:40
raffytaffyMena ; you installed windows and this problem happen02:40
raffytaffyyes?02:41
Menayes02:41
raffytaffyok and you search for stage 1 yes?02:41
Menai forgot to install it first02:41
Menayes02:41
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raffytaffyplease do this instead02:41
Menaok02:41
raffytaffyas root type grub : then type "find /boot/grub/stage202:41
dystopianrayAbortD: I think I recall someone else saying that a recent upgrade broke that driver, there is probably a bug report for it02:42
raffytaffythis should yield something like hd0,102:42
dystopianrayAbortD: have you tried booting an older kernel and seeing if it works?02:42
raffytaffythen type root "result here"02:42
AbortDhow do i boot a old kernel :)02:42
Menaok02:42
raffytaffythen "setup" (hdo)02:42
raffytaffythis should work02:42
Menaok02:42
dystopianrayAbortD: when grub starts, press 'esc' and it'll bring up a list02:42
MenaThanks :)02:42
raffytaffyok02:42
raffytaffyAbortD you can manulayy enter the kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst02:43
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rickymplactually all my user defined keyboard shortcuts are not working, I had Win+k assigned to open k3b, and it no longer opens nor gives any error02:43
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manuel_hi02:43
raffytaffygiven its installed lol02:43
AbortDok can i reinstall the drive?02:43
AbortDdriver02:43
AbortDim stairing at it right now02:43
raffytaffywhat driver?02:43
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AbortDrt250002:43
rickympli installed the suse kde menu, would that have anything to do with it?02:43
raffytaffysuse kde menu on buntu?02:44
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raffytaffyabortD is this a driver u have to compile against kernel source?02:44
dystopianrayAbortD: I don't see how that'd do anything, you'd still have the same non functional driver02:44
dystopianrayAbortD: reboot into an older kernel and see if it works02:44
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Menayes there is on kde-look.org a suse kde menu you can use it on kubuntu02:44
raffytaffydystopianary : if he has 3d driver...his old kernel will spew xserver error02:45
AbortDk brb02:45
Menajust install it02:45
manuel_how can i change the namen of my kubuntuuser ? eg from manuel to steffen and the home dir schould be renamed too i mean an full name change with all subgroups and so02:45
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raffytaffyi think the 2.6.20.3 kernel has better netfilter support then 2.6.2002:46
dystopianraymanuel_: should just be able to change hte user name and home dir with vipw and then rename the old home dir02:46
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manuel_thx02:47
AbortDi only see one kernel02:48
AbortDthhen a recovery mode for the same kernel02:48
raffytaffyAbortD is the old kernel installed?02:48
AbortDno...02:49
AbortDit was a fresh install of 6.1002:49
raffytaffywell you can only boot what is installed02:49
raffytaffyyou can either install another kernel from apt-get or compile your own02:49
dystopianrayAbortD: have you not performed updates?02:50
AbortDi cant apt-get with no internet :)02:50
AbortDwith no internet no :)02:50
raffytaffythus no updates ahh02:50
AbortDmhmm02:50
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raffytaffyu have no way to get connected?02:50
AbortDunless i decided to take my pc apart and bring it downstairs02:51
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raffytaffyhow much space do you have available02:51
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AbortDwhere?02:51
raffytaffyon the HD in question02:51
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AbortDalot02:52
frojndI have some problems installing dma.. My usb device is /dev/sdc1 and now I don't know how to start dma. Should I like sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc  ??02:52
AbortDlike 60 some gigs02:52
raffytaffyok ..install 6.10 a second time02:52
raffytaffylol02:52
AbortDwhy?02:52
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raffytaffybcse u have no net to get new kernel02:52
dystopianrayfrojnd: a sata drive? dma is enabled by default02:53
dystopianrayfrojnd: oh wait, usb, yes dma is also enabled02:53
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dystopianrayfrojnd: dma is only a concern for old ide drives02:53
raffytaffyunless : you d/l stuff downstairs onto a cd or sumfin and bring it upstairs02:53
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raffytaffyor go to radio shack and buy a cable02:53
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frojnddystopianray: I don't think it's enabled... couse when U: sudo hdparm /dev/hdc there is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11652/02:54
AbortDi am downstairs with a cdr in :)02:54
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dystopianrayfrojnd: hdparm is for hard drives, not usb devices02:54
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frojndoh02:55
dystopianrayonly for ide hard drives02:55
AbortDwhy would the driver be broken if i reinstall it?02:55
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dystopianrayAbortD: it'll be just as broken as it is now02:55
dystopianrayAbortD: reinstalling will make no difference02:55
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AbortDwhy though?02:55
rickymplraffytaffy, yes, suse kde menu02:55
raffytaffyrickympl : on buntu? lol02:56
dystopianrayAbortD: why would it make any difference? :S it's the exact same files, there is no magic02:56
CarinArrAbortD: are yu trying to install the rt2500 with ndiswrapper?02:56
raffytaffyi was gonna suggest he d/l a kernel from kernel.org and compile it...but shoot...you need alot of extra packages02:56
AbortDi havent installed anything02:56
AbortDand i dont feel in eed a kernel or the driver is borked02:57
rickymplraffytaffy, whats so funny? its in the repos02:57
raffytaffywait...are u talking about SLAB02:57
rickymplraffytaffy, let me check02:57
dystopianrayAbortD: you said the wifi doesn't work, so it must be a driver problem02:58
AbortDCarinArr i can see the wireless network but i cannot connect it fails02:58
AbortDit works but wont  connect02:58
dystopianrayI recall someone else telling me that rt2xxx was not working the other day02:58
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dystopianrayAbortD: are you using network-manager?02:58
AbortDim using kdes wireless utility02:58
rickymplraffytaffy, kwin-style-suse2 its in universe02:59
raffytaffyAbortD try sudo dhclient ra002:59
AbortDi have it set to dhc but ok brb02:59
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raffytaffyrickympl : i use kbfx menu:P03:00
rickymplraffytaffy, didnt know of that one03:00
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rickymplraffytaffy, ill try it out, c if it solves my keyboard shortcuts prob03:00
raffytaffyi dont suggest you use the one in repos...rather compile it on your own03:00
rickymplraffytaffy, y?03:01
raffytaffybcse the repo one dont work like it should03:01
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raffytaffyinfact it dont work @ all03:01
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rickymplraffytaffy, then wats it doing in the repos? LOL03:01
raffytaffyjust bcse its in repos dont mean its 100%03:02
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raffytaffyever try to install fluxbox from the repos...when u log into it...u get a blank screen with nothing ..no options lol03:02
rickymplnever tried03:02
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raffytaffyjust using it as an example03:03
raffytaffyits there...but useless03:03
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rickymplok, thx 4 ur help03:03
raffytaffy:)03:03
raffytaffyi didnt know i helped but ok03:04
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rickymplraffytaffy, u replied, which is some kind of help :)03:05
raffytaffyah well yeah..alot of ppl dont talk03:05
raffytaffy363 ppl ...3 talk lol03:05
rickymplright03:06
raffytaffyi guess rest are telepathic03:06
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rickympli guess03:06
rickymplg2g03:06
raffytaffyok03:06
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AbortDthx raffy03:06
raffytaffydid it work03:06
AbortDno i meant thx for making my comp burst into flames03:07
AbortDhaha yeah it did03:07
raffytaffylol ok03:07
AbortDbut i got one more question :P03:07
AbortDam i able to install my monitor drivers?03:07
raffytaffyu mean to enable 3d?03:07
AbortDit wants to stick me in 60hz and have a screwed display03:07
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AbortDno i want my view fixed....03:07
raffytaffyok03:07
raffytaffythats easy03:07
raffytaffywhat are your paramaters? like 1280 x800 etc etc03:08
easytigerwhats the konqueror package called that gives you video thumnails. it autoremoved for no reason03:08
AbortDthe highest because its the only one i dont have to adjust03:08
raffytaffysudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ----> scroll down to bottom and input your info03:08
AbortDand that will fix it?03:08
raffytaffy"1600x1200" is what i use...so i add that03:08
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raffytaffyleave the other ones in tact03:08
raffytaffysave....restart xserver03:09
raffytaffyshould pick up the right dimensions03:09
AbortDhow do i restart the server?03:09
raffytaffyctrl + alt + backspace03:09
dystopianrayctrl-alt-backspace03:09
dystopianrayor if you're keymap is screwed, shift+backspace03:09
dystopianrayyour *03:09
raffytaffyyes...those darn alaskan keymaps03:09
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dystopianrayi've seen it happen on a simple dvorak keymap03:10
dystopianrayit's amazing how often you'd hit shift+backspace03:10
raffytaffyyes im aware lol03:11
raffytaffythen again alot of times ppl will have their num lock on and type with #'s lol03:11
easytigerdoes no one know what the plugin is called for knoqueror video previews?03:12
kristjan_is this also feisty support channel?03:12
CarinArr!feisty03:13
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)03:13
raffytaffyeasytiger : flash player03:13
waylandbillkristjan_: technically that's #ubuntu+1. got an issue?03:13
easytigerraffytaffy: what?03:13
raffytaffyu need flash player to view youtube type stuff03:13
easytigerraffytaffy: not even close to what im asking ;)03:14
kristjan_easytiger: I know what you need, wait03:14
raffytaffyi thought u meant to view media on konq. :(03:14
easytigerthe thmnail previews in filebrowsing mode went awol when autoremove removed the package to do it. can't find that package name03:14
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kristjan_easytiger: libarts1-xine package03:15
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pabstanyone know of any good packet sniffing application, something like ethereal for use with kubuntu?03:15
easytigerkristjan_: thanks!03:15
easytigerpabst: wireshark03:15
waylandbillpabst: wireshark03:15
easytigerwhih is ethereal03:15
pabsteastiger/waylandbill: thanks...03:16
pabstcan i apt-get that?03:16
raffytaffysnort03:16
raffytaffywell its ids03:16
raffytaffyehh03:16
waylandbillpabst: it's the successor to ethereal actually. :-)03:16
waylandbill!info wireshark03:16
ubotuwireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB03:16
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pabstawesome03:16
pabstinstalling now :)03:16
dystopianraypabst: for security reasons, it's preferable to capture with tcpdump first, and then analyse the resulting file with wireshark, rather than have wireshark capture and analyse03:17
dystopianraypabst: otherwise wireshark has to run as root03:17
waylandbilldystopianray: doesn't promiscuous mode require root anyway?03:19
fdovingtcpdump will need to run as root, but you don't have to run the graphical wireshark as root in that case.03:19
dystopianraywaylandbill: yes, so you'd use tcpdump or something03:19
dystopianrayethereal has had many vulnerabilities03:20
fdovingthe question is, does it matter at all if you use tcpdump to capture? no info is lost, it's just saved in a file for wireshark to read.03:21
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fdovingif there is something fishy, it will be saved in that file. :)03:22
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dystopianrayno it doesn't matter, it's capturing exactly the same data03:23
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dystopianraythe only difference is that it won't be real time, you capture then analyze after with wireshark03:23
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dystopianrayalthough, I'm sure that wireshark would be able to open the incomplete file during the capture03:23
fdovingbut you won't gain any security by using tcpdump, as the tcpdumped data is parsed by wireshark anyhow.03:25
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dystopianrayyes but not as root03:25
fdovinggood point.03:25
dystopianrayyou could run wireshark as user 'nobody' so it can't do anything03:26
dystopianrayexcept read03:26
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raffytaffyi cant get rid of these kernel updates in apt-get grrrrr03:26
dystopianrayraffytaffy: have you ran apt-get dist-upgrade?03:26
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raffytaffyuname[Linux Equinox 2.6.20.3 #1 Wed Mar 21 13:28:59 EDT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux] 03:26
abortd_bah03:26
raffytaffyim on custom kernel03:26
raffytaffyi have no use for them lol03:27
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abortd_its still pinched in certain spots03:27
raffytaffyyet it still wants to install them03:27
mike__I have been testing "herd 5'" Wireless is detected but is flakey,It indicates a constant connection but browsing is hit and miss03:27
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raffytaffyi have edgy and feisty installed03:27
abortd_what repositories should i enable universe and multiverse?03:28
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mike__Anyone have wifi issues with feisty and atheros on a laptop?03:28
raffytaffyabortd its up to you....03:28
raffytaffyi used source-o-matic to generate a huge repo list03:29
abortd_well i forgot what i had last time :|03:29
raffytaffyi also add debian repos03:29
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abortd_i wish my screen wasnt so gay03:29
waylandbillraffytaffy likes to live on the edge. :-)03:29
raffytaffyi use suse repos too03:29
raffytaffybut not with apt-get but smart03:30
dystopianraymikes__: I can try my atheros pcmcia card in feisty if you want03:30
waylandbillI think I'll stick with ubuntu repos. :-D03:30
mike__dystopianray, Please03:30
raffytaffyi dont mind breaking things. only gives me reason to learn new stuff03:30
dystopianraymikes__: I can only try in the feisty herd 5 livecd and the beta when it's released later today03:30
abortd_what are back ports?//////////03:31
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dystopianrayabortd_: a newer package that is available for an older ubuntu release03:31
waylandbill!backports03:31
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports03:31
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raffytaffy!source o matic03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about source o matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:31
raffytaffyheh03:31
abortd_whats security universe?//03:32
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raffytaffyabortd : is this for 6.10?03:32
mike__dystopianray, I have no probs with pclos or sidux03:32
abortd_yeah03:32
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abortd_i have to get taking off though03:32
abortd_got some shit to do03:32
raffytaffycheck this out abortd -> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/03:33
abortd_er sorry03:33
abortd_didnt mean to cuss03:33
dystopianraymikes__: they are other distros?03:33
mike__(*_*)03:33
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abortd_thanks raffytaffy03:33
raffytaffygentoo used to be a good distro..its a big mess now03:33
abortd_see you all in a bit03:33
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mike__dystopianray,  yes,herd 5 looks very nice and have found no other probs03:34
allen84ushi03:34
allen84usi need some urgent help03:34
allen84usmy apache 2.0 goes crazy03:34
dystopianraymikes__: herd5 is where your atheros problem is?03:34
mike__allen84us, hello03:34
allen84usInvalid URI in request \x13BitTorrent protocolex03:34
mike__dystopianray, Yes03:34
allen84usthis error msg keep on appear in my apache error log03:35
allen84usany1 can help me ?03:35
allen84usInvalid URI in request \x13BitTorrent protocolex03:35
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allen84uswat problem i face?03:35
raffytaffya lawsuit possibly03:35
raffytaffylol03:35
allen84ushuh?03:35
dystopianrayallen84us: sounds like somebody's torrent client is connecting to port 80 on your webserver or something03:35
allen84uswho can help me ?03:35
allen84usthen how i stop it ?03:36
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mike__dystopianray, It is interesting because debian etch does the same thing,indicates a constant connection but bwowsing is stop/start03:36
mike__^^browsing03:36
raffytaffymike__ its the netstat process most likley03:36
raffytaffyif its FF03:36
CarinArri'm not at tesco no03:36
CarinArrer wrong window:)03:36
mike__raffytaffy, Please tell me more?03:36
allen84usany1 can tell me how to solve my problem ?03:37
raffytaffyFF has this odd behavior in 6.10 ..not sure about others...then when u use it..it opens a netstat process...check your system monitor03:37
dystopianraymikes__: brb03:37
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waylandbillallen84us: it's not a problem. it's rejecting the client. if it's that much of a concern then blacklist the ip address.03:38
mike__raffytaffy, ff=firefox?03:38
raffytaffyyes03:38
mike__It was the same in opera and konqueror03:38
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allen84usbut there is so many different ip that keep on request bt03:39
allen84usit seem nvr stop03:39
allen84usdo i need to restart my router and get a new ip?03:39
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mike__allen84us, normally03:40
raffytaffystatic ip03:40
carlos_alguien espaol?03:40
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allen84uswat do u mean by normally?03:40
carlos_necesito ayuda03:40
dystopianraymikes__: so far so good, not having any issues03:40
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mike__allen84us, depends if it is "static" or not03:40
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allen84usno03:40
allen84usmy ip not static 103:41
carlos_necesito ayudaaa03:41
allen84usdynamic ip03:41
Jucato!es | carlos_03:41
ubotucarlos_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:41
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dystopianraymikes__: I have a belkin pcmcia card, AR512 802.11abg, connected to an ap via 802.11g and WPA03:41
mike__dystopianray, All going well/03:42
mike__?03:42
dystopianraymikes__: seems to be fine03:42
mike__dystopianray, I feel the problem i am having will be very minor03:43
dystopianraymikes__: what is the problem exactly? does it only happen with feisty?03:44
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mike__dystopianray, wireless comes up as connected but when browsing it is stop start,not a constant conection03:45
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dystopianraymikes__: browsing is fine here, although the herd 5 cd locks up pretty frequently which it has just done03:45
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mike__But it indicates that the connection is constant03:45
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dystopianrayi went to /., digg ubuntu.com didn't have any problems03:46
dhqwhich is the best application for a tv card03:46
donswalowwwwwwwwwww03:46
dystopianraydhq: I like kaffeine03:46
dystopianraydhq: if it's a dvb card03:46
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dhqdystopianray: i have no idea its a pcmcia card03:46
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Mena-SmartHi03:47
corneliushi03:47
mike__night guys03:47
mike__2:47am03:47
Mena-SmartHow to downlaod the PublicKey with terminal03:47
Mena-SmartFor the updates03:47
dystopianraydhq: it's dvb if it's for digital television03:47
dhqdystopianray: Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d0)03:47
dystopianraydhq: do you get any /dev/dvb/* device when you plug it in?03:47
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dhqdystopianray: how do i install this device03:48
dystopianraydhq: when you plug it in, run $ ls /dev/dvb/03:48
Mena-Smarti got this i need the publicKey03:49
Mena-SmartW: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA03:49
Mena-SmartW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508803:49
Mena-SmartW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems03:49
Mena-SmartE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.03:49
Mena-SmartSorry :D03:49
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dystopianray!pastebin | Mena-Smart03:49
ubotuMena-Smart: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:49
Mena-SmartOk Thanks :)03:49
dhqdystopianray: well there is nothin03:49
dystopianraydhq: can you pastebin your dmesg?03:50
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dystopianraydhq: do you know if it is for digital tv? or just analog tv?03:51
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dhqdystopianray: analog tv03:51
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dystopianraydhq: oh ok, umm, I think that creates /dev/v4l devices then03:51
dystopianrayI think tvtime can do v4l tv stuff03:51
Mena-Smart: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. (how to fix this this is my source.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11658/  )03:51
dystopianraydhq: pastebin your dmesg and I'll be able to help more03:52
dhqdystopianray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11659/03:53
dystopianraydhq: ok, that seems to be starting up fine, does ls /dev/video0 exist?03:54
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dystopianraydhq: or maybe it's /dev/v4l/* i'm not sure03:54
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fdovingMena-Smart: didn't it tell you which failed?03:55
dhqdystopianray: /dev/video4 exists03:55
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dystopianraydhq: ok, cool, so the card is supported, you can use tvtime to use it03:55
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Mena-SmartFdoving, no03:55
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fdovingMena-Smart: my guess would be one of the beryl ones at the top.03:56
Mena-SmartFdoving, but befor it there is error bec of the public key03:56
fdovingMena-Smart: you can try to uncomment then (add a # in front).03:56
Mena-Smartok03:56
fdovingMena-Smart: ah, then you need to add the beryl-projects key to your apt-keys. they should provide info on how to do this along with their repository information.03:56
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berndhi03:57
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Mena-Smartok03:57
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berndi have a problem to install the nvidia driver03:58
dhqdystopianray: so i have to install tvtime03:58
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dystopianraydhq: it's the only app I knwo of that handles analog tv tuners, apart from mythtv03:58
berndi used the how to from the ubuntu wiki but only get the command line when i restart03:58
dhqdystopianray: thankx i will give it a try03:58
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berndcan anybody help me?03:59
dystopianraybernd: all you need to do is 'nvidia-glx' and then change "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf03:59
dystopianraybernd: install nvidia-glx i mean03:59
Jucatobernd: did you remember to install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)03:59
Jucato(if you're on Edgy, that should be linux-restricted-module-generic)03:59
dystopianrayJucato: restricted modules come by default03:59
berndi used this how to:http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Nvidia-Grafikkarten?highlight=%28nvidia%2903:59
Jucatodystopianray: only the -common but not the one needed by nvidia03:59
dystopianraybernd: did you install nvidia-glx?03:59
dystopianrayJucato: I have nvidia running with only installing nvidia-glx and changing "nv" to "nvidia"04:00
berndyes, i installed nvidia-glx04:00
GandinuxHello to everybody ;)   ... As I can see this is a common english fitted Channel. Does anyone know a channel in german where Kubuntu is supported?04:00
Jucatodystopianray: then you already have installed the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel sometime before that04:00
Jucato!de | Gandinux04:00
ubotuGandinux: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:00
GandinuxThanks a lot :)04:01
berndthanks04:01
dystopianrayJucato: no never, I only installed ubuntu a week ago, -common and -generic are all I have04:01
Jucatodystopianray: you have linux-restricted-modules-generic?04:01
dystopianrayJucato: it either came by default, or was pulled in by nvidia-glx04:01
Jucatoit's not by default, nor pulled by nvidia-glx. but it may be installed by some other metapackage04:02
dystopianrayI don't have anything else kernel related installed04:02
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dystopianrayis there a command that will tell me what depends on it?04:02
Jucatobelieve what you want. I'm just speaking from my experience and from others' as well04:03
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bernd#kubuntu-de04:03
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PF-Awayyes04:04
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wolferinemorning, someone offer some assistance to getting my FTPd up?04:05
dystopianraywolferine: what ftp daemon are you using?04:06
wolferineproftpd04:06
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ubuntuhello04:07
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fakirHi all!04:08
ubuntuhi fakir04:08
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fakirI have a problem during install nvidia driver on kubuntu 6.1004:09
fakirAfter install the X server can't start04:10
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Mena-Smartjucato, its safe to upgrade to fiesty i mean testing it04:10
ubuntuI'm sorry, I can't help you.04:10
Mena-Smartfrom kubuntu04:10
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Mena-Smartwithout clean installation04:10
JucatoMena-Smart: it's more or less stable. It will be in beta in a few hours... but the warning still holds04:11
fakirBacktrace:04:11
fakir0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c3971] 04:11
fakir1: [0xffffe420] 04:11
fakirFatal server error:04:11
fakirCaught signal 11.  Server aborting04:11
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fakirHelp me please!04:11
Mena-Smartjucato, ok04:11
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soulriderhi eveyrone04:13
KaoticEvilJucato: Feisty is going beta?04:13
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Jucatosupposed to be today04:13
KaoticEvilsweet04:14
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Mena-Smarthhehe04:14
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wolferinehehe04:17
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dystopianraythe guy who does the release, is in UTC+1, so it's like 4pm there, and he said it'd be released before he finishs work04:18
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pixelationwhat percentage of you guys use fiesty, I don't want to be left with no support... I'm pretty new.??04:20
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wolferinehehe04:20
MinceRi use edgy04:20
wolferinenew == dont use fiesty :P04:20
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pixelationk04:20
pixelation:)04:20
wolferinejust kidding04:20
wolferinedo what ever u want04:21
pixelationseriously?04:21
pixelationwell...04:21
wolferinelol04:21
Mena-Smartjucato, i was going to update kubuntu do you think i should wait if i want to upgrade fiesty or its okayt if i update then upgrading to fiesty beta04:21
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fdovingpixelation: feisty should be pretty usable at this time. there will be a beta release today. only minor changes will be included for the final release.04:21
pixelationthe thing is, I'm new... and there is no unnoficial wiki and automatix doesn't support it, etc.04:21
wolferinedoes fiesty have new rls of kde and gnome?04:21
dystopianraywolferine: it has kde 3.5.604:21
JucatoMena-Smart: I'd personally advise to wait until feisty, unless you want to help test some stuff04:21
Jucatowolferine: Feisty and Edgy has KDE 3.5.604:22
wolferineand gnome?04:22
Jucato(or at least you can upgrade to 3.5.6 on Edgy)04:22
Mena-Smartokay i will wait :)04:22
pixelationwhen is official feisty?04:22
Jucato2.1804:22
wolferineoh, so a later rls of gnome04:22
Mena-Smarti must change my source list do i rename edgy to feisty04:22
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Jucatoaround the 3rd or 4th week of april04:22
Mena-Smartin the suorce list lines04:22
JucatoMena-Smart: no need04:22
Mena-Smartok04:22
Jucatoa new dist-upgrade tool  will do that for you04:23
pixelationthat's what I tried, just renaming the source list... I messed it ALL up LOL04:23
Mena-Smartok04:23
pixelationbut it was OMH04:23
Jucatowolferine: the 6-month release cycle of Ubuntu matches with the 6-moth release cycle of GNOME. So that around 1 or 2 months after a new GNOME release, a new Ubuntu will be released04:23
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Mena-Smartjucato, i will run this tool manualy right bec i have clean install of kubuntu edgy04:24
wolferineoh, good to know04:24
wolferineyou a developer?04:24
soulriderdoes anyone know if its possible to compile c++ .net programs in windows ?04:24
soulriderlinux*(04:24
Jucatosoulrider: try mono04:24
wolferinethat was directed to you Jucato04:24
soulriderim starting to learn c++ in college but i cant compile in g++ here =/04:24
Jucatowolferine: well... yes and no.... but more on no...04:24
pixelationWell, I already installed all the codecs and such from automatix, so since that's all done, maybe I should go ahead and upgrade, my system is telling me to.04:24
soulriderthanks Jucato04:24
wolferinehehe04:24
wolferinein the k/ubuntu project, I meant04:25
Jucatosoulrider: why? GCC is available on Windows through cygwin... try asking in #ubuntu-programming or ##c++04:25
wolferineevery little bit helps :)04:25
Jucatowolferine: I do user support mostly, bug hunting and marking here and there. and studying programming...04:25
pixelationmaybe if the system tells me to upgrade, I should upgrade???04:25
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JucatoMena-Smart: the tool will be available for download through edgy-updates when the time comes04:25
wolferinewhich languages?04:26
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Mena-Smartjucato, ohhh ok04:26
pixelationI'm scared of loosing all my subtle settings and falling into a deep depression. heh04:26
Jucatopixelation: just a word of caution, automatix has been known to make upgrading to a new release a bit more difficult04:26
Jucatowolferine: C++04:26
pixelationOK04:26
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wolferineah, im a java guy04:26
pixelationI might uninstall it, I mean, it's done with installing all the stuff for me.04:26
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waylandbillthe stuff automatix installs is just as easily installed manually really.04:27
raffytaffyautomatix should not be suggested to new ppl04:27
Jucatoactually, Feisty will make automatix a bit obsolete when it comes to codecs and media04:27
raffytaffyit should only be used by those who can already do it all manually04:28
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Jucatoraffytaffy: although that sort of contradicts their purpose.... but yeah...04:28
pixelationwaylandbill,... yeah if I wasn't retarted.04:28
pixelationlol04:28
pixelationI mean that in the dictionary sense too.04:29
waylandbillJucato: wait until you have an error using templates from the standardc++ library. It's like reading a foreign language. :-)04:29
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pixelationlol04:29
Jucatopixelation: don't complain. on Kubuntu, we only needed to install libxine-extracodecs for most stuff (except WMA/V)... on Ubuntu, they had to install gstreamer-this, gstreamer-that04:29
Jucato:)04:29
dystopianrayJucato: wmv is supported with libxine-extracodecs as of feisty04:29
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pixelationJucato, don't get me wrong, I love KDE.04:30
Jucatodystopianray: I know. I think it was you who asked me to test it in #ubuntu+104:30
Jucatoor someone else04:30
dystopianrayJucato: oh yeah that's right, I remember now, hehe04:30
pixelationthat's a good tip, thanks Jucato.04:30
Jucatopixelation: nah. I"m just saying that we had it better :)04:30
Jucatoanyway, on Feisty, if you play a media that requires a codec, like in Amarok, a script will run to install it. it's already the same in Edgy04:31
Jucatosame w/ Flash and Konqueror04:31
KaoticEvilyeah, i found that the other day when i tried to play an MP3 in amaroK04:31
KaoticEvilwas quite happy with the results04:31
raffytaffyJucato : i can see some potential exploits to such installs04:31
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Jucatoraffytaffy: why? it just runs adept_batch04:32
[pyro] raffytaffy: what exactly?04:32
raffytaffyyes it starts a process. ...04:32
Jucatoand asks for your password04:32
raffytaffywhat if someone find a way to start a 100 of those processes04:32
Jucatothe script is open source btw04:32
raffytaffythat can lag no?04:32
Jucatono04:33
raffytaffyo.004:33
epimethJucato: and if I had *just* sudoed something... last time adept-batch ran it didn't ask me for a password04:33
Jucatoyou can't have 2 apt processes open04:33
Jucatoepimeth: that's a feature, not a bug04:33
raffytaffyepimeth is right04:33
[pyro] all bugs are just undocumented features ;)04:33
epimethI'm talking exploit04:33
Jucatosudo is supposed to remember the password for a time period04:33
KaoticEvili had it once where i didnt need to put in my pass for every sudo.. i did it one time, and cant remember how :(04:33
Jucatoexploit from whom?04:33
raffytaffysay you just install something...close terminal..and that auto install laucnhes04:34
[pyro] KaoticEvil: sudo -i04:34
dystopianrayI tried to play a mp3 in amarok on herd5, amarok locked up04:34
Jucatodystopianray: now *that* is a bug :)04:34
dystopianraythe codec install dialog locked up i mean!04:34
epimethdystopianray: yea... the codec thing was buggy04:34
Jucatoand I hope you reported it04:34
epimethits fixed now I think04:34
raffytaffyi installed all codecs manually04:34
KaoticEvil[pyro] : yeah, but that only last until you close that terminal window04:34
[pyro] Jucato: no an undocumented feature ;)04:34
dystopianrayI had too many other issues that I forgot to report them all04:34
Jucatoraffytaffy: excuse me but I don't seem to understand you.04:35
dystopianrayI only reported one that really annoyed04:35
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Shaezschewhat is the command to run fsk on next boot?04:35
Jucatodystopianray: next time the bug comes up after official release, ask yourself why you didn't report it :)04:35
dystopianrayShaezsche: touch /forcefsck04:35
Shaezschetouch?04:35
dystopianrayShaezsche: yes04:35
raffytaffyhmm ... say you install something using sudo apt-get ...even if you close the term after...there is that short time period you could reopen terminal and sudo apg-get something WITHOUT having to input password04:35
KaoticEvil[pyro] : i had it to where i *never* had to type in m pass for sudo04:36
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dystopianrayShaezsche: it's a command you run04:36
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Shaezschei know04:36
Shaezschenever run "touch" before th04:36
Shaezscheo04:36
[pyro] KaoticEvil: did you set that up?04:36
dystopianrayShaezsche: it just creates the file /forcefsck, startup scripts will see that file and force a fsck, then remove the file04:36
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epimethShaezsche: "touch" creates / sets modified date to now for a file04:37
Shaezschei think my notebook's HD isnt fully supported by linux. last time fsck ran it had 10% non-contiguous04:37
KaoticEvil[pyro] : yeah, it was a command i typed.. altho i can no longer remember what it was... this was many installs ago... way back on breezy04:37
Shaezschethat cant be normal04:37
Jucatoraffytaffy: ok... so? you are talking about a sudo issue. not the script to install codecs04:37
CarinArri can't think why you'd actually want to remove sudo04:37
[pyro] KaoticEvil: ah yes, now you mention it, i have done the same thing too.04:37
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[pyro] rings bells04:38
raffytaffywell i was trying to correlate the two in my head somehow04:38
epimethJucato: yes... but thats an easy way to get root priveleges...04:38
Shaezschehow much non-contigious is ok04:38
Jucatoepimeth: so is sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs04:38
Jucatoso is running Adept from the menu04:39
raffytaffyapt-get moo04:39
Shaezschealso, for some reason in any debian based distro glxgears only gives me 800 fps, while in mandriva i get 1300. I notice that my gaming on cedega reflects this percentage as well04:39
Shaezscheany idea why? intel i915 chipset04:39
[pyro] !moo04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:39
raffytaffypyro try it04:39
raffytaffyits funny04:39
epimethJucato: yea... but raffytaffy is saying that you can easily push a fake "codec" if someone ran sudo shortly beforehand04:40
[pyro] hehe yeah ive done it :D04:40
dystopianrayShaezsche: are they using different drivers?04:40
raffytaffyepimeth seems to understand me04:40
raffytaffyeven thou it seems like a rather rare occourance it can happen04:40
dystopianrayShaezsche: there was no glxgears difference when I moved from gentoo to kubuntu04:40
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Jucatoepimeth: ok... howwould you push a fake codec?04:40
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raffytaffywith root access you can push anything04:40
epimethactually... thats not really true... where does feisty know to download codecs from?04:41
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Jucatoepimeth: lol from the repositories where else?!04:41
raffytaffydidnt automatix get cracked a while back04:41
epimethso screw it... it doesn't pose a security risk :-)04:41
JucatoI already mentioned that it runs adept_batch04:41
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Jucatoand adept only works w/ repositories04:41
Jucatoand it installs the codecs from Ubuntu's repositories04:41
epimethyea... raffytaffy got me riled up :-)04:42
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raffytaffyi was thinking to perhaps implement a --delay switch to apt-get ; meaning it dl's the program u want...but prior to install gives you option to check04:42
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fdovingraffytaffy: you can use -d, download-only.04:42
waylandbillfriggin mouse when on the fritz.04:43
[pyro] raffytaffy: what, so are you going to check all the code before you install?04:43
fakir[18:17]  <fakir> Backtrace:04:43
fakir[18:17]  <fakir> 0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c3971] 04:43
fakir[18:17]  <fakir> 1: [0xffffe420] 04:43
fakir[18:17]  <fakir> Fatal server error:04:43
fakir[18:17]  <fakir> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting04:43
Jucatoagain, that's a sudo issue. nothing to do w/ the script that installs the codec04:43
raffytaffywell you can scan for rootkits04:43
raffytaffyi guess04:43
[pyro] !pastebin04:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:43
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epimethfakir: that tells us absolutely nothing04:43
KaoticEvil[pyro] : any idea how to do that again? lol04:43
epimethfakir: what is the problem?04:43
berkescan anyone give me a hint what logs to tail? Since a few days my x session suddenly simply stops and I am trown to the default KDM screen. All open apps and stuff are then killed too.04:44
[pyro] KaoticEvil: i saw it on a forum i think. just searched for root access04:44
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fdovingberkes: $HOME/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:44
berkesI /think/ its a hardware issue. Thougt it had to do with broken sections on my HDD, but so far no luck.04:44
KaoticEvili may try to find it again one of thse days04:44
waylandbillnice nick KaoticEvil. creative. :-D04:45
raffytaffyby broken sections u mean bad blocks?04:45
KaoticEvilwaylandbill: thanks.. been usin this nick for yeeeeeeeeeears04:45
fakirepimeth, X server can't start after nVidia driver installing04:45
Shaezschewhen is feisty supposed to be final?04:45
dystopianrayapril 1904:45
CarinArr!envy | fakir04:45
ubotufakir: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia04:45
raffytaffyfakir : check nvidia install log04:45
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epimethfakir: you installed the wrong driver04:45
raffytaffylol epimeth04:45
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waylandbillKaoticEvil: I've been using mine a while too. :-P04:46
CarinArrfakir: try using envy, it does all the work for you04:46
epimethfakir: check out envy above... but first put your old xorg.conf file back in place04:46
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raffytaffyto much automatic stuff beign spawned04:46
fdovingberkes: you should start from a livecd and run fsck.ext3 with the -c options (scan for badblocks and add them to the badblock inode)04:46
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epimethfakir: envy did not work for me, I had to get the drivers for nvidia's site... just a heads up :-)04:46
raffytaffyberkes : or nuke the drive04:46
Shaezschehow do you nuke a drive?04:47
Shaezschemicrowave?04:47
raffytaffy!dban04:47
CarinArrepimeth: really? what nvidia card do you have?04:47
berkesfdoving: did that. no success yet.04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dban - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
[pyro] Shaezsche: a big electromagnet04:47
raffytaffydereks boot and nuke - low level format04:47
epimethCarinArr: nvidia GeForce2 MX 40004:47
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Shaezschewhat does that do?04:47
Shaezschedestroy it?04:47
raffytaffyexcellent way to make it like new04:47
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Shaezscheare you joking?04:47
raffytaffyno im not04:47
raffytaffylow level format is very good04:47
CarinArrepimeth: that a legacy one?04:47
berkesalmost done with DD-ing the old drive onto the new one.04:47
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Shaezscheso if i have a big magnet and rub it on my friend's laptop, he will lose his data?04:48
raffytaffyhttp://dban.sourceforge.net/04:48
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epimethCarinArr: borderline... I had to use old drivers, but none of the "legacy" drivers worked04:48
raffytaffydban is best nuker around04:48
[pyro] Shaezsche: yep04:48
Shaezschewould a large solar flare from the sun erase all the data on earth's hard drives:LO LOL OL?04:48
epimethShaezsche: in one word: YES04:48
Shaezscheok, but will it format like normal?04:48
Shaezscheit wont dmg my drive?04:48
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raffytaffyCIA use dban to wipe drives04:48
[pyro] cant promise that04:48
[pyro] :D04:48
raffytaffyit does a 3x low level format04:49
epimethShaezsche: actually... the solar flare thing is a big fear we all have... it will kill lots of electronics04:49
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CarinArri have four machines with nvidia cards of diferent ages, envy worked flawlessly with every one of them. Maybe i've just been luky04:49
CarinArrlucky too04:49
[pyro] epimeth: isnt that what the atmosphere is fore?04:49
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[pyro] for*04:49
waylandbillI thought with smart on hard drives now, the manufacturers don't want you low level formatting04:49
epimethCarinArr: no... I'm just really really really unlucky :-)04:49
Shaezscheis it true that If i am working on a paper in open office and my system completely freezes Thus causing me to do a Hard Reset, i will lose my data if i am on reiserfs, but not on ext3?04:49
[pyro] waylandbill: yeah thats right, manufacturers always bitching and whining..04:50
raffytaffydban uses a simple linux kernel / you boot it from start up. and it does 3 passes @ your HD "nuking it" meaning a complete format04:50
epimeth[pyro] : while we've done a good job fixing the hole in the ozone, I wouldn't say our protection is "optimal"04:50
waylandbill[pyro] : hehe04:50
[pyro] epimeth: lol04:50
[pyro] epimeth: you sound like a diplomat ;)04:51
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epimethraffytaffy: I just use getright for low level... I think you can choose 1-5 passes04:51
dennis_the release of the beta version was delayed to today...is there any official announcement at what time the beta will be available today?04:51
dystopianrayShaezsche: on reiserfs you'll lose your data nd the fsck will bring back all crazy junk files04:51
epimeth[pyro] : oh god no04:51
CarinArrisn't there enough to be scared of without worrying about solar flares;)04:51
raffytaffyu can choose more then 3 on dban04:51
raffytaffy3 is default04:51
Shaezschedystopianray: is that in debate?04:52
Shaezscheor a fact04:52
dystopianrayberkes: except that it will take an enormous amount fo time04:52
dystopianrayShaezsche: fact04:52
fdovingdennis_: exactly NOW.04:52
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epimethCarinArr: no point in being scared of them... if it happens, it happens... nothing we can do :-)04:52
Jucatofdoving: oooh04:52
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dennis_fdoving: tnx04:52
Shaezschedystopianray: what filesystem do you use? would i lose it if i used xfs?04:52
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raffytaffyi think the polar ice caps will drown our puters long bfre a solar flare nukes them04:52
dystopianrayShaezsche: xfs buffers heavily and so you will lose a lot if your system goes down04:52
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dystopianrayShaezsche: just stick to ext3 unless you have some specific reason not to04:53
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Shaezschei want speed04:53
[pyro] raffytaffy: yeah and the penguins will rule the world then04:53
Shaezschei got the need04:53
raffytaffypenguins will drown without ice to live on04:53
dystopianrayShaezsche: you're turning into a ricer04:53
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Shaezschewhats ricer04:53
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berkesShaezsche: then I think a simple softraid has more effect then the FS.04:53
dystopianray!ricer04:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ricer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:53
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dystopianrayaww no ricer entry :(04:53
sandro__hi all .. i just "found out" that i might be able to connect to our exchange2k3 server through "evolution" .. so running adept - requesting install for "evolutioN" results in 54 (!) packages to install, including at least 10 or more called "gnome_whatever" and "something_gnome" ... since im running kde i feel confused .. is it "save" to install evolution with the exchange connector or should i keep me hands off ?!04:53
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ssickleSo will they be updating the repository with the Beta release?04:54
dystopianraysandro__: evolution is a gnome app04:54
berkessandro__: unless you have other reasons then just exchange, i'd say: stick to kmail. kmail can do exchange too; afaiks04:54
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dennis_the beta folder has been created04:54
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[pyro] nn all04:55
berkesyou can run evolution on KDE fine, but it integrates horribly.04:55
dystopianraybeta is out!04:55
Shaezschei hope kubuntu feisty has better wireless support. Edgy didnt work for me, while dapper did04:55
epimethdystopianray: we know!04:56
dystopianray:(04:56
srikanthHi..I am getting problems when trying to update ..... it keeps failing with the following message "gzip returned error code (1)"04:56
jhutchinsdystopianray: beta what?04:56
srikanthany ideas??04:56
epimethdystopianray: now go sit in a corner04:56
dystopianrayjhutchins: feisty beta04:56
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jhutchinsAh, yes.04:56
dystopianraywhere is the kubuntu feisty beta torrent?04:57
jhutchinsdystopianray: #ubuntu+104:57
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VR_dystopianray, i dont think it's out yet04:57
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raffytaffyants in your pants04:57
dystopianrayVR_: it is04:57
geniusvicksHow do I change from KDE to Gnome? Do I hav to download the entire ubuntu again ?04:57
dystopianrayjhutchins: i'm already there04:58
dystopianraygeniusvicks: gnome sucks :S04:58
raffytaffygenui : sudo apt-get install ubuntu desktop04:58
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dystopianraygeniusvicks: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:58
raffytaffyubuntu-desktop **04:58
wolferinewhat does the <Directory *> refer to in the proFTPd.conf?04:58
epimethgeniusvicks: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:58
Jucatogeniusvicks: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome04:58
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raffytaffysudo rm -rf04:58
raffytaffylol04:58
wolferinethe current connected users dir?04:58
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Skuller!gnome04:58
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.04:59
VR_dystopianray, oh ok... i was still waiting for it. i guess it is out04:59
geniusvicksdystopianray I beg to differ. KDE seems to be too slow and graphics heavy04:59
dystopianraygeniusvicks: gnome is more resource intensive than kde04:59
raffytaffygeniusvicks : you can also use garnome04:59
geniusvicksOr maybe coz I'm using Beryl ?04:59
Jucatoplease don't go into a GNOME vs. KDE argument here04:59
epimethgeniusvicks: probably04:59
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Jucatogeniusvicks: anything that uses Beryl will be resource intensive04:59
CarinArrgeniusvicks: it'll be beryl for sure04:59
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epimethcan we not get into a kde/gnome discussion?04:59
Skulleror XFCE04:59
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dystopianraytwm is better than gnome and kde combined05:00
Jucatoepimeth: no. it's considered offtopic. there's #kubuntu-offtopic for that05:00
geniusvicksBut Dapper Drake (Gnome) wuz faster than Edgy Eft(KDE)05:00
epimethJucato: reread my post05:00
Shaezscheuse the 386 kernel, its way faster05:00
Shaezschethe generic one sucks05:00
Jucatoepimeth: ok :)05:00
raffytaffyi have 5 dif DM's installed:P05:00
CarinArruhm..05:00
Jucato!generic | Shaezsche05:00
ubotuShaezsche: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)05:00
CarinArrhow is 386 kernel faster?05:01
geniusvicksAnyway when is the next Ubuntu release05:01
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Shaezschei know05:01
CarinArrwouldn't that defeat the purpose of generic?05:01
Jucatogeniusvicks: April 19 or later05:01
Shaezschethe 386 one works much better05:01
Skuller!686 | Skuller05:01
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geniusvicksJucato thanks.05:01
raffytaffyi cant stand 386 or generic05:01
Shaezschemost laptops wont speedstep without the 38605:01
Shaezscheraffy try mandriva, they have a ton of kernel options05:01
Skuller\msg ubotu !i68605:01
raffytaffyi install my own Shaezshe05:02
CarinArrwhat's wrong with the generic one05:02
Shaezscheraffy that sucks, when its time to patch them05:02
jhutchinsSkuller: Forward slash.05:02
Shaezschefor security holes05:02
Shaezschei like doing that through the repo05:02
raffytaffyi use ketchup to patch them auto05:02
CarinArri'm not arguing, just don't know that much about it05:02
raffytaffyi dont mind the work05:02
Shaezschei dont know what that is05:02
Skullerjhutchins: yes...i figured that..thnx05:02
raffytaffy!ketchup05:02
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ubotuketchup: update utility for linux-kernel sources. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.8-0.1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 84 kB05:02
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sandro__sry had a phonecall - last thing i know is that ONLY evolution can handle exchange2003 servers05:03
sandro__otherwise i have to stick with "outlook web access" :)05:03
nubuntu93can someone tell me how to install a gnome theme? when i drag it to the theme preferences window, it says it's not the right file format.05:03
raffytaffydid u unpack it first05:03
Skullerwhat will happen if i  put alias vim=emacs in my /etc/profile?05:03
epimethsandro__: kmail syncs with exchange, too05:03
jhutchinssandro__: Exchange servers can do standard pop and imap.  Connecting using the Exchange protocol requires a licen$ed client extension.05:03
epimethsandro__: and its okay to use gnome apps in kde05:04
Jucatonubuntu93: try in #ubuntu05:04
nubuntu93no, am i supposed to? sry im new to linux05:04
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epimethjhutchins: but the whole point is to have the joint calendars/contacts/folders05:04
jhutchinsnubuntu93: kubuntu is ubntu with kde instead of gnome.05:04
nubuntu93oh sorry05:04
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raffytaffyi call it all buntu05:04
sandro__ok thank you .. so ill ask my admin to "activate" imap since i think its turned off and i try kmail .. if i dont succeed ill try my luck on evolution! thanks for your insights05:05
epimethsandro__: good luck!05:05
sandro__thanks agaiN! :) have a nice weekend and also a nice cup of (k)ubuntu :)05:05
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Skullercan anyone please tell me what will happen if i  put alias vim=emacs in my /etc/profile?05:05
epimethwhat I'd like to know is why more people aren't using open xchange?05:05
Kobiecan some one help me please ?05:05
epimethSkuller: typing vim will run emacs05:06
epimethKobie: just ask the question! :-)05:06
wolferinewhat does the <Directory *> refer to in the proFTPd.conf?05:06
jhutchinsSkuller: Why don't you try it and find out?05:06
Skullerepimeth: still no idea05:06
epimethSkuller: ???05:06
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Skullerjhutchins: umm....i got it as a result of @lart Skuller in kubuntu-offtopic05:06
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Kobiei use dsl connection , after a while it jut disconnects from it self and i need to do poff and pon dsl-provider again and again05:06
epimethSkuller: reguardless... it is a Good Thing to do05:06
fdovingwolferine: all directories.05:07
Kobiewhat can i do ?05:07
Skullerepimeth: ok then...thanks...hehe05:07
raffytaffylower your MTU Kobie05:07
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KobieMTU ?05:07
raffytaffyoi05:07
Kobiewhat's that ?05:08
KobieMTU05:08
raffytaffymax trasmision unit05:08
epimethKobie: Maximum Transmission units05:08
raffytaffyalot of ISPs have it set low05:08
raffytaffyyet routers and such are set to high05:08
jhutchinsKobie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_transmission_unit05:08
raffytaffythus causing net dropping05:08
Kobieand how do i do set it up ?05:08
epimethso you have to lower yours to match theirs05:08
Kobieno05:08
Kobielet me explain myself again05:08
Kobieok ?05:08
raffytaffyok05:08
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Kobiei use dsl connection , after a while it jut disconnects from it self and i need to do poff and pon dsl-provider again and again but a download continus but mozilla wont05:09
Kobienow u understand me better ?05:09
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raffytaffydisable ipv605:09
Kobiethats ?05:09
raffytaffyoi05:09
raffytaffyin browser do "about:config"05:10
raffytaffysee if ipv6 is on05:10
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Kobiejust a sec05:10
wolferineah, ok05:10
wolferinethanks05:10
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Kobieit dosent apper to be there05:11
Kobieno ipv605:11
raffytaffyalso u can "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases05:11
raffytaffyand input these values:05:11
raffytaffyalias net-pf-10 ipv6 off alias net-pf-10 off alias ipv6 off #alias net-pf-10 ipv605:11
raffytaffysave and reboot05:11
Kobieare u talking to me ?05:11
raffytaffyyes lol05:11
Kobieha ha05:11
Kobielol05:11
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Kobieyou say this should do the trick05:13
Kobie?05:13
CarinArron a dual core machine, dyou have to do anything to make kubuntu use both cores?05:13
dystopianrayCarinArr: no05:13
raffytaffyit may05:13
raffytaffynothing is defenite05:13
raffytaffydefini805:13
dystopianrayCarinArr: default kernel supports smp05:13
Kobieu got another way ?05:13
CarinArrdystopianray: cool, thanks05:13
raffytaffythis way wont break anything...but may help..other ways may break stuff05:14
dystopianrayCarinArr: if you look at /proc/cpuinfo it should show two cpus05:14
Kobieya i see05:14
Kobieok lets give it a try05:14
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Kobiei'll be back05:14
BluesKajKobie, raffytaffy... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv405:14
raffytaffyblue : i just tell him how to do that a few lines up05:15
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CarinArrdystopianray: any idea why one processor says 1000MHz while the other says 2000?05:15
raffytaffycarinarr : show me your unama -a05:15
raffytaffyuname*05:15
dystopianrayCarinArr: cpu frequency scaling I guess, didn't knwo it worked properly with smp though05:15
CarinArrdystopianray: so i shouldn't be worried about it?;)05:16
raffytaffyis smp enabled05:16
raffytaffy?05:16
CarinArrraffytaffy: yeah05:16
wolferineneed a hand with setting up my profTPd, have a bunch of issue, anyone experienced?05:16
dystopianrayCarinArr: no it's a good thing, your system will use less power and be cooler on average05:16
CarinArrLinux ginger-laptop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux05:16
raffytaffywloferine : use a php shell ..its the easiest way05:16
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CarinArrdystopianray: okay, cool;) thanks05:16
raffytaffy!webmin | wolferine05:17
ubotuwolferine: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.05:17
dystopianrayis it ok if I post my digg submission in here about ubuntu 7.04 release?05:17
raffytaffywhat :O05:17
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CarinArronly just occurred to me it might not be enabled by default05:18
wolferinehehe05:18
jetsaredimcan someone help with a gtk problem with my kubuntu install?05:18
wolferinethanks raffytaffy05:18
raffytaffyok05:18
jetsaredimthings like gaim and other gtk apps have a lot of rendered elements just black05:19
killermach_how do  I display the history sidebar in konqueror? the other day I did a man: on DBI but now "man:DBI" doesn't work, I must be typing something wrong05:19
dystopianraykillermach_: man:/DBI ?05:19
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dystopianrayhttp://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_7_04_Feisty_Fawn_Beta05:19
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mhterresHi Riddel05:21
mhterresoops05:21
mhterresRiddell05:21
mhterres:-)05:21
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raffytaffywhat are the changes in beta05:21
raffytaffyanything significant?05:21
mhterresIs Kubuntu 7.04 Beta available ???05:21
mhterres:-)05:21
ssicklewhy would my keyboard stop working with the current 2.6.20-12 generic kernel? It is working fine with 2.6.20-8.05:21
dystopianraymhterres: yes, see the link I posted05:22
dystopianrayraffytaffy: it has finalised artwork for one05:22
mhterreswhere ? ;_005:22
raffytaffyanything else?05:22
mhterres:-)05:22
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dystopianrayoh you joined just after I posted05:22
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mhterresdystopianray, where did you post the link ?05:23
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fdovingmhterres: yes, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/05:23
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Hacking_Definedhay05:24
AaronCampbellAre there any limits on drive size in kubuntu?  Like the 2tb limit in Windows XP?05:24
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mhterresThe final version date is avaliable ?05:24
Hacking_Definedyes05:24
dystopianraymhterres: final version is planned for april 1905:24
mhterresgreat05:24
AaronCampbellyay... feisty went beta!05:24
raffytaffyii cant seem to make partitions biiger then 190 gigs with gparted05:24
BluesKajraffytaffy , did tell him how to blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist05:24
raffytaffy<raffytaffy> also u can "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases05:25
raffytaffy<raffytaffy> and input these values:05:25
raffytaffy<raffytaffy> alias net-pf-10 ipv6 off alias net-pf-10 off alias ipv6 off #alias net-pf-10 ipv605:25
raffytaffy<raffytaffy> save and reboot05:25
raffytaffythat would be a no... lol...but i think this is sufficient ehh05:25
dystopianrayraffytaffy: I'm pretty sure I've made 200+GB partitions with it05:25
raffytaffywhat FS dyst?05:25
dystopianrayext305:25
raffytaffyahh i was trying to make fat3205:26
dystopianrayoh :S05:26
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dystopianray200+GB of fat32 is insanity05:26
BluesKajdystopianray , no need to insult ppl05:26
Hacking_Definedraffytaffy05:27
dystopianrayBluesKaj: It was not an insult05:27
Hacking_Definedit didnt work05:27
fdovingraffytaffy: if you use 8KiB block size, ext3 can handle 32TiB filesystems.05:27
Hacking_Definedit just wont let me connect05:27
raffytaffyhmm05:27
jetsaredimraffytaffy: why would you want fat32?05:27
hw__I want to share files over our network. But when I open the share dialouge it is greyed out and the error is half hidden. I guess to much text for 2 lines. What are the requirements to share files over the network? Install samba?05:27
Kobieraffytaffy05:27
Kobieit didnt work05:27
raffytaffyfor music storage05:27
raffytaffyyes i heard you05:27
Kobieit just wont let me connect05:27
Kobiek05:28
dystopianrayhw__: yes, you'll need samba if you want to share over smb05:28
fdovinghw_: basically, yes.05:28
jetsaredimwhat advantage are you getting from fat32?05:28
raffytaffyare there any with ext3?05:28
raffytaffyit just one i picked lol05:28
dystopianrayjetsaredim: interoperability05:28
mefisto__I'm having trouble with my dvd burner reading dvd's. I know everyone's going to tell me the drive's on its last legs, but is there anything else it could be? Are there any dvd drive diagnostics I can run?05:28
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fdovingraffytaffy: fat32 does not support any of the linux modes/permissions.05:28
jetsaredimo - for dual boot?05:28
CarinArrthat'd be the only reason you'd use fat tho wouldn't it.. if you were going to use windows as well05:29
fdoving!dvd | mefisto__05:29
ubotumefisto__: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:29
raffytaffyit supports permisions..what u talking about05:29
raffytaffychmod works on fat3205:29
fdovingraffytaffy: it doesn't support linux permissions. no.05:29
loguser1can any one advise a good irc app?05:29
fdovingyou can chmod all you want, but nothing happens. you need to mount with the default permissions. and that's it.05:29
fdovingloguser1: konversation.05:30
raffytaffyits just music lol05:30
loguser1is there some called xchat?05:30
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jhutchinsmefisto__: Probably nothing you can do.  Have you tried cleaning it?05:30
mefisto__jhutchins: cleaning the disk?05:30
CarinArrraffytaffy: well yeah but why would you use it with linux unless you're intendint to access is through windows as well05:30
jhutchinsmefisto__: Cleaning the drive.05:31
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raffytaffyi dont use windows05:31
hw__dystopianray: Thx, now I can do something with the dialouge...05:31
CarinArrso you don't need fat32.. problem solved;)05:31
ssickleloguser1: kopete, or gaim are good gui irc apps, and I like irssi on the command line.05:31
mefisto__jhutchins: how do I clean the drive?05:31
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raffytaffybut this is external drive...and whos to say i wont one day take it over a friends house and he will wanna use it05:31
dystopianraysome windows me guy might want to access the drive05:31
raffytaffyand most ppl dont use linux05:31
loguser1i cant see "wine" in adept. why?05:31
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ssicklexchat works as well.05:31
jhutchinsmefisto__: get a lens cleaning disk.05:31
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loguser1i cant see xchat too.        why?05:32
Kobieraffytaffy05:32
fdovingraffytaffy: make one small fat32 partition where you put the drivers from fs-driver.org05:32
mefisto__jhutchins: are they the same for cds and dvds?05:32
Kobiecan ya help me dude ?05:32
CarinArrwell no, but then the reason you're using it is still that you want to be able to use it with windows05:32
jhutchinsmefisto__: Yes.  You can also blow the dust out with compressed air.05:32
CarinArrregardless of whether you want to use it on your own machine;)05:32
Skuller!ask | Kobie05:32
ubotuKobie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:32
jetsaredimwhy not just go to a windows box and format it05:32
iarwainhiya, does anyone know why my cursor moves a 'tab' further when i hit tab in my terminal? How can i correct this?05:32
jetsaredimand then mount it up under Linux05:32
raffytaffydo what the bot says hehe05:32
Kobieno dude i allready asked and he tried to help me05:32
Kobieok well05:33
jhutchins!software | loguser105:33
ubotuloguser1: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents05:33
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mefisto__jhutchins: tried compressed air, no difference. cd's work flawlessly, it's just dvds. but there are 2 separate read heads for cd and dvd, right?05:33
Kobieafter a while my dsl connection disconnects in ifconfig ppp0 upper to be up a download continues but mozilla wont05:33
wolferinehow do I link to a dir /ftp from my /user/ftp so that I can view the contents using proFTPd ?05:34
jhutchinsmefisto__: Depends on the drive, but usually they're combined.05:34
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dystopianraywolferine: mount -o bind /user/ftp /ftp05:34
fdovingwolferine: ln -s /user/ftp /ftp05:34
raffytaffyoi enough questions for one day. i need sleep. later folks05:34
loguser1but why i cant see wine and xchat05:34
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wolferineare you sure?05:34
wolferineu each have a different answer05:34
Kobieafter a while my dsl connection disconnects in ifconfig ppp0 upper to be up a download continues but mozilla wont05:35
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iarwainhiya, does anyone know why my cursor moves a 'tab' further when i hit tab in my terminal? How can i correct this?05:35
dystopianraywolferine: proftpd might not follow symlinks, I don't know, if it doesn't then a bind mount is necessary05:35
ssickleloguser1: do you have the universe repository enabled?05:35
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wolferineok, does any know?05:35
wolferineanyone*05:35
Kobieafter a while my dsl connection disconnects in ifconfig ppp0 upper to be up a download continues but mozilla wont any one can help ?05:36
fdovingwolferine: try.05:36
fdovingwolferine: i belive it is configurable. (to follow symlinks or not)05:36
Kobieafter a while my dsl connection disconnects in ifconfig ppp0 upper to be up a download continues but mozilla wont any one can help ?05:37
wolferinehmm05:37
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iarwainhiya, does anyone know why my cursor moves a 'tab' further when i hit tab in my terminal? How can i correct this?05:38
jhutchinsKobie: Please don't repeat yourself so often.  If someone can help you, they will answer.05:38
Kobiethanks05:39
Kobieok05:39
fdovingiarwain: i think you use /bin/sh as your shell.05:39
killermach_dystopianray: KDE Man Viewer Error for man:/DBI05:39
jhutchinsKobie: It may be that your ISP is dropping your connection.  You are not clear about "mozilla won't continue" - I presume you mean the connection drops when you're web browsing but now if you're doing a continuous download.05:39
loguser1ssickle: how to have universe rep enabled05:39
jetsaredimanyone seeing a problem with gtk apps with gtk2-engines-qt installed?05:39
fdovingiarwain: if you run 'bash' in the console, does it still do that?05:39
dystopianraykillermach_: hrrm, maybe there is a problem with the man:/ ioslave05:39
killermach_dystopianray: if I do "perldoc DBI" from konsole, it works. so I know it's there05:39
killermach_I can do "man:perlvar" and this works05:40
jhutchinsKobie: You may be able to set a keepalive signal in your ppp configuration, or just run a "ping" command in the background.05:40
iarwainfdoving, it then gives me a usefull terminal xD05:40
iarwainfdoving, how can i set this as default?05:40
dystopianraykillermach_: oh it's not a man page?05:40
killermach_I just did this 2 days ago.. my history says 1000 entries..05:40
Kobieand how do i set keepalive ?05:40
jetsaredimwhat is the dev site?05:40
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fdovingiarwain: 'chsh -s /bin/bash'05:40
jetsaredimcan't remember the url05:40
killermach_if I do "man DBI" from console it works05:40
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dystopianrayhrrm, kde must be looking in a different place or something05:41
iarwainfdoving, thanks!05:41
fdovingkillermach_, what about #DBI in konqueror?05:41
killermach_I've had the history bar on the left before.. but it's been awhile.. can't figure out how to display it again05:41
fdovingkillermatch_, F905:41
jhutchinsKobie: Sorry, back when I used ppp it was all text-based configuration, no clue what to do with the GUI.05:41
Kobieno need for gui05:42
Kobiegime me in cli05:42
Kobiegive05:42
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loguser1anyone there?05:42
jhutchinsKobie: Totally different system, but that's the setting you would look for.05:42
Kobiewhat ? lol05:42
Kobiesay again05:42
jhutchinsKobie: This may help: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Diald-HOWTO.html05:43
Kobiei must have misse05:43
jhutchinskeepalive is the setting you would want to adjust/look for.05:43
killermach_fdoving: dystopianray: my apologies.. I'm shelled into another machine, and I was on another workstation, locally "man DBI" does not work. sorry ssheeesh05:43
dystopianrayhehe, it's ok05:43
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fdovingkillermatch_, then you're missing the libdbi-perl package.05:43
jhutchinskillermach_: most man pages would be in lower case, try man dbi or apropopos dbi.05:44
Kobie jhutchins : its not hellping05:45
loguser1why the hell i cant see wine and xchat?05:45
Kobieit connects05:45
Kobiebut after a while it disconnetcts for mozilla and amsn05:46
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Kobiefrom05:47
Kobiefrom*05:47
babag_got serial mouse working.05:47
Kobiewhy cant i hear my mp3 files05:47
Kobie?05:47
ssickleloguser1: are you using adept?05:47
babag_followed advice on ubuntu howto site but didn't work.05:48
loguser1yes05:48
Skuller!mp3 | Kobie05:48
ubotuKobie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:48
babag_what worked was editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand.05:48
babag_changed /dev/input/mice to /dev/ttyS005:49
ssicklethere is an option that says something about managing repositories05:49
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babag_changed ExplorerPS/2 to Microsoft05:49
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babag_works fine after that05:49
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jhutchinsbabag_: Write it up, post it to the wiki.05:50
babag_hey, aren't you on the other channel?05:50
babag_seems a lot of crossover these days05:51
ssickleopen that and add a line like the following:05:51
ssickledeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse05:51
jhutchinsbabag_: I'm on a dozen channels on three networks.05:51
babag_doh!05:52
ssickleloguser1: replace edgy with the whichever version of you are using, and if not in the US check the kubuntu site for repos nearer to you.05:53
babag_where's the wiki? don't see link on support page.05:54
ssickleloguser1: Also google for adding kubuntu repositories and you should find more inclusive instructions.05:54
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Riddell** beta out http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php05:55
loguser1ssickle:  i just reinstaalled kubuntu from the same cd i want using before. and before it was showing wine and chat. i just clicked 'update'    for both.       why it is not showing now?05:55
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jhutchins!easysources05:55
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:55
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loguser1i was using*05:56
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mefisto__loguser1:  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ might be useful05:56
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loguser1ok05:57
loguser1how can i have more options for resolution and its refresh rate?05:57
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apokryphos!resolution | loguser105:58
ubotuloguser1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:58
allanhenryeealow05:58
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wolferineis it difficult to change permissions on an NTFS drive?05:59
allanhenryeetestando05:59
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jhutchinswolferine: NTFS uses ACL instead of unix permissions.06:00
Aloneaallo06:00
wolferinewhich means I have to do what?06:00
jhutchinswolferine: How are you accessing it and what are you trying to do?06:00
wolferinewell, its set to 640 atm06:01
loguser1ubotu:  i already restarted manully. the whole computer. but still cant see wine and xchat06:01
allanhenryeealonea06:01
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wolferinei was wanted to allow non-root to view it06:01
jhutchinsloguser1: Try running them from alt-F2 or from a console.  Wine usually isn't run by itself but is used to run windows programs.06:02
jhutchinswolferine: Check your mount options.06:02
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wolferineman mount you mean?06:02
loguser1jhutchins:  i cant see it in adept06:03
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jhutchinsThat's probably because they're already installed.06:03
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jhutchinsloguser1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto06:03
killermach_fdoving: dystopianray: I installed libdbi-perl and now man:DBI works06:03
CtEEHello!06:04
dystopianraykillermach_: ah awesome06:04
jhutchinswolferine: man fstab, cat fstab06:04
CtEEim having soem problems installing kubuntu...06:04
loguser1ssickle:  i just reinstaalled kubuntu from the same cd i want using before. and before it was showing wine and chat. i just clicked 'update'    for both.       why it is not showing now?06:04
CtEEWhen i try to install it then the screen freezes after mabye 30sek and some green starnge lines are added to the screen06:04
CtEEi think the green lines should be some kind of text but im not sure... what can be the problem?06:05
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allanhenryeeexit06:06
pollyoAnyone able to get qemu to use a partition to load windows xp?06:06
loguser1thanks06:06
AaronCampbellI asked this a little bit ago, but never saw an answer: Are there any limits on drive size in kubuntu?  Like the 2tb limit in Windows XP?06:07
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BluesKajAaronCampbell, I think the size limit is determined by the chipset on the MoBo in Windows..AFAIK there is no such limit in linux ... I could be wrong , but I've never heard of such a thing... jhutchins?06:12
jhutchinsNot a limit you're likely to run into.06:14
jhutchinshttp://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/question/static/maximum-partition-size.php06:15
babag_after making changes to xorg.conf how do i get the system to recognize the changes without a reboot?06:15
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easytigerbabag_:  ctrl-alt-backspace06:16
jhutchinsbabag_: Restart X.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is easy, or log out.06:16
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jhutchinswolferine: http://lunapark6.com/?p=171006:17
wolferineyeah, I think I am gonna attempt a work around06:18
wolferineget all the files off, then convert to reiser06:18
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jhutchinswolferine: 1) All you need to do is change the usermask, as that page shows, 2) reiser is not a good idea, no longer fully supported.06:19
jhutchinswolferine: If you're going to use a linux filesystem, use ext3.06:20
fdovingxfs is also good.06:20
wolferinewell, this is just a storage space06:20
wolferineas long as I can read/write, w/o issues, is really all I need06:21
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fdovingext3 then.06:21
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slestaki have the Option "XkbOptions" "altwin:super_win" set in xorg.conf, but I still cannot map my win key.  not sure where to look next.06:21
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slestaki have restarted X already.06:22
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graaaugrg/w $me06:23
graaaugrgops sry :p06:23
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slestakwhat has ahppened with H Reisers legal troubles?  i never heard the end of that06:24
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bronze_0_1he has been charged and is being prosecuted06:24
jhutchinshttp://fsbench.netnation.com/06:25
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slestakwill kubuntu system settings/ Keyboard override Xkb options in xorg.conf?  i cannot get win key working for beryl bindings.06:26
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kristjan__slestak: interesting, cause win key itself works in kde, e.g. amarok06:28
jhutchinsslestak: Yes, kde does override xorg keybindings.06:28
jhutchinsslestak: kubuntu seems to have problems with the win key, there may be a faq or howto on it. (Let me know if you find one.)06:29
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DoctorGonzo:(06:29
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babag_jhutchins: well, i've written up an addition to the serial mouse wiki but have to wait for registration instructions.06:29
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babag_hopefully will come soon06:30
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jhutchinsslestak: Oh. Beryl.  Now you have three or four things competing to configure the keyboard.  Good luck!06:30
jhutchinsbabag_: Great!06:30
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slestakkristjan__: my win key doesnt have any bindings in Amaork/Shortcuts.  jhutchins all faqs seem to point to XkbOptions being a DE agnostic way to fix it, but for me it is inneffective06:31
acemowhere can i get speedstep-centrino?06:31
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kristjan__slestak: does the win key work in gnome with beryl?06:32
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guiaraihdaoisdhi everybody06:32
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slestakkristjan__: sorry, dont have gnome on this laptop.06:33
guiaraihdaoisdbye bye06:33
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kristjan__slestak: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=499389 - what is Modx?06:36
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kristjan__slestak: why not try #beryl channel?06:37
acemoacemo@acemo:~$ sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino06:37
acemoFATAL: Module speedstep_centrino not found.06:37
acemoHow can i get speedstep-centrino?06:37
slestakkristjan__: i see ramos uses xmodmap instead of XkbOptions.  does that go in .bashrc?  .xinitrc? http://ramseyramos.net/2007/02/26/how-to-enable-your-windows-key-as-super-key-hyper-key-in-kubuntu-and-beryl-input-enabled-zoom/06:38
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kristjan__slestak: don't ask me such things, I don't have a slightest clue06:39
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slestakkristjan__: lol.  np.  thanks06:40
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AaronCampbellBluesKaj or jhutchins: Thanks for the link on max-size.  I am a little worried, because it looks like my raid may be over 2 tb, and I was thinking that I would install the 32bit (k)ubuntu, because aren't there problems with the 64-bit version?06:41
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AaronCampbellIt looks like formatting as reiser would fix the problem, but I don't know what that is...06:41
AaronCampbellsorry, I meant 4tb.  I'm looking at doing 8 drives now...I guess I could do 500G drives, and keep it under 4...06:42
AaronCampbell4 would probably be enough anyway06:42
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kristjan__AaronCampbell: what so specital about 64pc?06:44
kristjan__AaronCampbell: *64bi06:44
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dennis_is there some kind of command line commando to see which version of feisty you are using?06:45
Skullerdennis_: i think the one for edgy should work too06:46
bentob0xhow can I find the date of the install of linux on my machine?06:46
firecrotchbentob0x: Find some file that hasn't been modified since you installed?06:47
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falconcelinahello everybody06:47
dennis_Skuller uname -a doesn't show the version06:48
falconcelinacan anyone tell me how can i login as root?06:48
dennis_falconcelina, sudo and then your pass06:48
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firecrotchbentob0x: Look in /boot for the earliest kernel that you can find, the modified date/time of it should give you the date you installed it06:49
Skullerdennis_: i thought there was some other command....which returns with  the results like 'Kubuntuu 6.10' or something like that...i am sorry i dont know the command...look for ways of checking version no. in kubuntu on google06:49
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dennis_k, tns Skuller06:50
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blekoshi, i did purge to Kontact (from adept manager) but when i re-installed it, my old mails etc where there06:50
blekoshow can I completely remove Kontact?06:50
soulriderare te repos slow for everyone else or just me? im donwloading at 12kb =/06:51
bentob0xfound it, thx guys06:51
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soulriderblekos: sudo aptitude purge kontact06:51
firecrotchsoulrider: Yeah, I just downloaded some updates and it was quite slow06:51
soulridermaybe ebcause of the beta release06:51
firecrotchsoulrider: Yeah, I just noticed that06:51
firecrotchsoulrider:  the repos will be slow for a couple of days, probably06:52
soulrideri remember last time i downlaoded edgy06:52
soulriderit was kinda hard to find the torrents06:52
soulriderthey should be at plain sight06:52
ned__i'm using adept to update, and as soon as the download finished, when it started to install updates (Preparing...) it gives me the message: "Debconf: Incorrect nice value Please enter an integer between -20 and 19"06:52
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soulriderned__: i never got that before =/06:53
ned__hmm06:53
firecrotchned__: Are you using Feisty?  I had the same problem, but it doesn't really seem to affect anything06:53
ned__i'm using feisty06:53
cvk77did anyone else notice that kasbar doesn't update itself correctly?06:53
ned__yeah, should i just click cancel?06:53
firecrotchned__: What's the other option?06:53
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firecrotchned__:  Also, I found that just using the command line, there are no issues06:55
ned__it says next and cancel06:55
ned__next does nothing06:55
ned__i could just use command line06:55
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ned__i'll try now06:55
firecrotchned__: I think it gives you the error for each package, so if you're installing multiple packages, you'd ahve to click next several times06:56
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jean-benoit!fr06:56
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:56
ned__i'm just trying it through the command line for now06:56
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ned__it's doing fine so far06:57
firecrotchI've never liked Adept anyways06:58
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ned__it's ok, not great though i guess06:59
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alueverahi07:01
blekosi did sudo aptitude purge kontact but when i reinstall konctat my mailboxes are still there!! is there a way to remove ALL settings of kontact07:01
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alueveraplz i need help where is the fault: http://www.otaku-empire.de/pics/Bildschirmphoto1.png07:02
alueverasame in synaptic, too07:02
Skullerblekos: mos prolly in /home/.kde/share/apps/kontact07:02
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alueverasomeone help?07:03
PF-Awayaluevera: use Konqueror/Adept;)07:03
PF-Awayaluevera: also, try to run "LANG=C; firefox" in a konsole07:03
PF-AwayLANG=C helped with a similar problem I had with Opera07:04
alueveraPF-Away: hmm well i think its a gtk probs07:04
alueverayou mean it is the locale?07:04
PF-Awayaluevera: it probably doesn't know what it is or something07:04
PF-Awayjust try to run it prefixed with LANG=C07:04
alueverak someone other know this problem?07:04
alueverabut only this apps have the prblem07:05
PF-Awayaluevera: it was only opera here07:05
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me_hhi all07:08
PF-Awayhi me07:08
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me_Please i have a quersion07:08
PF-Awayok07:08
PF-Awayjust ask07:08
me_i wanna make shortcut to change the language by using hotkey in the keyboard07:09
me_i`m using KDE07:09
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PF-Awayme_: you can ask in #kde07:11
PF-Awayi think there's more active people there07:11
me_thanks dear :)07:11
PF-Awayno problem, just ask your question07:12
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alueverawell nobody know the problem?07:13
alueverahttp://www.otaku-empire.de/pics/Bildschirmphoto1.png07:13
alueverait sucks07:13
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PF-Awayaluevera: did it work with prepending LANG=C?07:15
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fdovingaluevera: ouch, regular kde apps works right?07:16
fdovingyeah, i can see that, nevermind.07:16
kristjan_lots of people are having trouble installing kde themes; kubuntu needs a howto or wiki or something07:16
alueverafdoving: yes only synaptic and firefox07:16
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aluevera(firefox-bin:25001): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed07:17
fdovingaluevera: kmenu -> run command -> 'kcontrol' -> appearance -> gtk styles ... -> try another font.07:17
alueverain the konsole i can see that07:17
BluesKajanyone have a problem with K9Copy freezing and becoming unresponsive halfway thru copying a dvd as an iso file07:17
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mefisto__BluesKaj: yes, I had that problem, but only with one particular dvd07:18
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alueverafdoving: no, the same07:18
familyhi I am using kubuntu with beryl and aqu(what ever).  When I open new menus they are below the menus that open them, and it does not look right, how do I change this?07:19
fdovingaluevera: try a few fonts..07:19
JuJuBeeAnybody tell me how to allow server.name.com/~username  ?  I thought apache turned this on by default.07:19
mefisto__BluesKaj: wasn't halfway, it was muuch earlier, about 20-30 sec after starting07:19
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PF-Away!compiz07:21
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:21
alueverafdoving: well i try now 5 fonts but all mistake07:22
mefisto__BluesKaj: do you have "quick scan" on, in settings>dvd ?07:22
alueverai think its a gtk prob?07:24
BluesKajmefisto__, I have the prob with every dvd ...fortunately I have AcetoneISO which works very well , but I'm still curious about what is causing the K9Copy to fail07:24
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mefisto__BluesKaj: I could never get it to copy anything without the quick scan setting on07:24
BluesKajreally mefisto__ ...wonder why ?07:26
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mefisto__BluesKaj: perhaps my dvd drive? right now I have trouble reading dvd's at all, so maybe it's time to buy a new drive07:27
BluesKajmefisto__, my dvd drive is fine (knocks on wood) , otherwise.07:28
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PF-Awaydo i need a lot of gnome crap to run compiz?07:28
fdovingPF-Away: no.07:30
PF-Awaynot even for configuring?07:30
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aluevera(synaptic:29328): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed07:33
alueverathis is the fault from synaptic07:33
alueverathe output in konsole07:34
meme-1Good afternoon or morning or evening folks! Is anyone familiar with Amaya (web dev. s/w). Every time I start it, Amaya 9.51 immediately closes. I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling with no change.07:34
NightBirdmeme-1, try starting it from the terminal07:34
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NightBirdit may cause some info to be print out07:34
meme-1Failing this... can anyone suggest another graphical web editor?07:34
NightBirdwhich you can use to debug07:34
meme-1Nightbird: thx... will try.07:35
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PF-Awayisn't depending on only compiz-gnome a bit stupid of the compiz metapackage?07:35
NightBirdmeme-1, I don't... I do too much dynamic/AJAX programming for something like that to be usefull :P07:35
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PF-Awaywhen there's a separate compiz-kde package?07:35
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alueverawell the only way is reinstall the system? :D07:36
NightBirdaluevera: wha?07:37
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alueveraNightBird: no, at my problem?07:37
alueveraNightBird: no, at my problem!07:37
NightBirdaluevera: my thoughts? try apt-get remove and then apt-get install on the packages acting up..07:38
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NightBirdso... synaptic and Pango...07:38
meme-1"The program 'amaya' received an X Window System error."07:38
NightBirdI would try removing then installing Pango first though07:38
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meme-1NightBird: You're absolutely correct! Lot's of error messages such as: ....07:38
meme-1I got that backwards.07:38
eckerneed me some help ...  i have my wireless card installed according to ndiswapper says the drivers installe and the hardware is present, along with lspci, anyhow iwconfig , ifconfig does not show anything about wlan0 heres my paste.bin  http://ace.pastey.net/9057-3pja07:38
BluesKajnope mefisto__ , turning off quickscan didn't help , K9copy still freezes at 48%07:39
NightBirdmeme-1: heh...07:39
NightBirdmeme-1: well..... that does sound quite odd...07:39
meme-1NightBird: Does that mean the app is for x only?07:39
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NightBirdmeme-1: the x server implementation shouldn't matter so long as they both support the same feature set07:39
meme-1NightBird: There are quite a few more errors.07:39
NightBirdwhich programs should hopefully be robust enough to survive an optional feature not being available..07:40
MenaFiesty Beta is out :)07:40
NightBirdMena: shouldn't that be out sometime next month or so?07:40
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NightBirdmeme-1: what's the first error?07:40
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alueveraNightBird: there is no package names pango07:40
meme-1Nightbird: Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_colormap: assertion `!GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED (widget)' failed07:40
Menano its tody07:40
Menabut its not stable yet its beat :)07:41
NightBirdaluevera: what about Cairo? or something like pango..07:41
MenaNightBird, #ubuntu+107:41
alueverahow can i search for packages they are installed with pacman?07:42
alueveraapt-get, sry :D07:42
meme-1NightBird: Seems like this error is "common" did a Google search07:42
MenaBye With God Bless :)07:42
NightBirdapt-cache search07:42
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NightBirdmeme-1: hm...07:42
fdovingaluevera: dpkg -l package07:42
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alueveraapt-cache search is the search for all packages07:42
alueveraand not installed?07:42
NightBirdindeed07:42
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NightBirdapt-cache search will search all known packages07:43
BauldrickHow do I configure Knetworkmanager to start my wireless connection at startup?07:43
alueverahow can i find the installed packages about cairo and pango?07:43
meme-1NightBird: What is DRI?  (complete context: runnly DLX without DRI?)  Apparently this can cause Amaya to fail this way.07:44
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NightBirdmeme-1: DRI is a way for X drivers to enteract 'directly' with hardware.  It's typically used for OpenGL programs, and other programs that get special hardware acceleration07:45
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alueveradpkg -l cairo <-- nothing , dpkg -l pango <-- nothing07:45
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wolferinelooking for a tutorial on adding menu items (from scratch) in gnome ( I have seen similar things done in the ubuntu guide) ?07:45
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NightBirdmeme-1: try 'grep "dri" /var/log/Xorg.0.log' in the console and see if there is an error message from dri07:45
abortd_hm07:45
alueverahello?07:46
NightBirdaluevera, what about apt-cache search?07:46
alueverai tell me all packages :D but not all installed07:46
abortd_hello?07:46
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NightBirdwolferine: you might want to ask in #ubuntu instead of #kubuntu for gnome specific applications(since kubuntu is based on kde, while ubuntu is gnome based)07:46
alueverai want to know which packages are installed07:46
NightBirdhi abortd_07:46
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wolferine+b07:47
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wolferineso I cannot07:47
abortd_hell NightBird07:47
abortd_hello sorry07:47
abortd_spilled beer on my keyboard07:47
NightBirdwolferine: what did you do?07:47
NightBirdwolferine: well, have you tried in #gnome07:47
wolferinethats really none of your business :)07:47
wolferineyes, in there now07:47
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dystopianrayargh, the digg post on the feisty beta needs more diggs07:48
yurimxpxmanHow do I get the Novell menu in Kubuntu?07:48
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abortd_!beryl07:48
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:48
dystopianrayyurimxpxman: the one that looks like windows xp?07:48
yurimxpxmandystopianray: yeah07:48
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dystopianrayyurimxpxman: does it have a name?07:49
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fdovingdystopianray: kickoff07:49
meme-1NightBird: (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2307:49
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yurimxpxmandystopianray: In GNOME, it's called the slab menu, but I don't know about the KDE version07:49
Bauldrickstill cant get knetworkmanager to see my network?07:49
dystopianrayyurimxpxman: there is probably a deb somewhere online07:49
meme-1NightBird: No actually "error" messages07:49
dystopianrayBauldrick: what wireless hardware do you have?07:50
NightBirdmeme-1: ah... yeah, I'd believe it...07:50
alueverabye07:50
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meme-1NightBird: just message such as what I pasted.07:50
abortd_Multimedia packages and codecs for PowerPC, PPC java and some extras07:50
abortd_does anyone know what that means?07:50
NightBirdmeme-1: it may be that the program is trying to use composites which aiglx doesn't support07:50
NightBirdor something else that aiglx doesn't support..07:50
yurimxpxmanI found it: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=5024007:50
yurimxpxmanthanks for letting me know what it's called :)07:50
dystopianrayhttp://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_7_04_Feisty_Fawn_Beta/07:50
NightBirdif you want, you could switch to the ati/radeon driver, but suffer from incomplete hardware acceleration...07:51
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NightBirdbut it would probably support that feature07:51
Bauldrickdyst:  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC??07:51
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dystopianrayBauldrick: ah, atheros, should just work, or at least, it does for me07:51
dystopianrayBauldrick: is the signal strength strong?07:51
abortd_dystopianray: do you know what this is? "Multimedia packages and codecs for PowerPC, PPC java and some extras"07:52
Bauldrickdyst:in lwassistant show 6.5 stars07:52
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yurimxpxmanhmm.. I don't see the kickoff menu in the applets now that it's installed.07:52
Bauldrick5.5!07:52
Ashex|Workdystopianray, dugg :)07:53
abortd_does that apply to me watching movies and listening to mp3s?07:53
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dystopianrayAshex|Work: thanks07:53
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dystopianrayabortd_: are you using a ppc machine?07:53
abortd_//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////what is that?07:53
abortd_err07:53
abortd_i hate my keyboard07:54
LjLPowerPC is a CPU architecture, used (among other things) on some Macintosh computers07:54
abortd_oh07:54
dystopianrayabortd_: if you just have a standard desktop pc that can run windows, then you don't have a ppc machine07:55
abortd_does wine still run with alot of lag like it used to?07:55
Bauldrickuname -a will tell you07:56
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abortd_?07:56
dystopianrayabortd_: what sort of lag?07:56
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NightBirdabortd_, not really...07:56
fdoving'arch' will also tell you.07:56
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NightBirdit's slower than windows is(due to it being a translation layer, it's bound to be slightly slower), but for the most part it's not noticible07:57
abortd_is bleeding edge kde a bad choice?07:57
abortd_well when i played ultima online with wine i lagged alot07:57
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abortd_i hate buggy stuff07:58
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abortd_i like smooth running :|07:58
NightBirdwhen it comes to games, the directX part is coming along quite well, but it's still not perfect, but many games are able to run with only a minor framerate decrease07:58
dystopianraywine is really sensitive to cpu usage, you can't even run folding@home at maximum niceness without wine stuttering like crazy07:58
NightBirdabortd_: you mean the connection was laggy? or you were getting poor frame rates?07:58
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abortd_frame rates07:58
abortd_!multiverse07:58
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:58
dystopianraywine lacks a DIB engine, so many 2d rendering tasks are very slow07:59
NightBirdabortd_, my suggestion:  try the latest version(lots of fixes have been put into place), and see if it works out or not..07:59
dystopianraystarcraft is incredibly slow in wine, even on powerful hardware07:59
NightBirdyeah07:59
NightBirdthe DIB engine is something that really needs to get worked on07:59
wolferineis there a way to remove the boarder around a shell, so just the title bar stays?08:00
wolferineso it that specific to themes?08:00
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blekoshow can i see the pid of kontact so i can kill it?08:01
dystopianrayI know you can remove the window border completely08:01
dystopianrayblekos: killall kontact will do the job08:01
fdovingblekos: ctrl-esc - search for kontact08:01
wolferinedystopianray, you can remove/view it, or just remove entirely?08:02
elbingblekos: ps -A | grep kontact08:02
elbinghow many ways xD08:02
slestakcan anyone using a dell laptop verify if they are using pc105 keyboard in xorg.conf?08:02
dystopianraywolferine: remove it, but it tasks away the title bar too08:02
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dystopianrayslestak: is a inspiron 6000 ok?08:02
wolferineis it a hot key, or do I have to manually change the setting?08:02
dystopianraywolferine: click on the little icon on the left of the title bar, go to 'advanced -> no border'08:03
slestakdystopianray: yes.  ty.  trying to debug why i cant get super key working08:03
dystopianrayslestak: yes I have pc10508:04
slestakty08:04
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wolferinethen to get it back?08:04
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dystopianrayand my super key works, according to xev08:04
blekosi have come up with a reall strange problem [bug] , with no apparent reason kontact doesnot connect to internet to check for emails. I keep getting the message "transmission complete.no new messages". My email settings have not been altered and I also installed thunderbird and checked my email with the same settings08:05
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blekosemail is really important do u have any suggestions pls?08:05
abortd_i forgot how to run a terminal in root can someone fill me in08:05
dystopianrayabortd_: sudo su08:05
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abortd_thanks ;)08:06
PF-Awaysudo -s08:06
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slestakdystopianray: did you have to use XkbOptions in xorg.conf or xmodmap to get it working?08:07
dystopianrayslestak: no, it just works, i'm running edgy08:07
dystopianrayslestak: it has keycode 11508:08
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dystopianrayi only have one super key, on the left08:08
abortd_do instead of gedit /etc/apt/sources.list i would use kate /etc/apt/sources.list for kde correct?08:08
abortd_so*08:08
slestakdystopianray: xev shows 115 being pressed, and it is mapped to Super_L08:08
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dystopianrayslestak: but that doesn't work?08:09
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kristjan_does the private command (ms? m? msg?) depend on irc client or the irc server?08:09
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abortd_client08:10
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abortd_i think08:10
kristjan_abortd: in konversation it is /m right?08:10
abortd_yup08:10
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abortd_i hate kopete....08:12
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slestakdystopianray: no, nothing in beryl responds for effects that are mapped with win.  such as ring tasklist, win + tab, nothing.  shift + F maps are working08:12
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meme-1NightBird: (et al) Problem solved!  I went to the Amaya webpage and downloaded the debian version 9.54. The repos.. (Synaptic) has the older version which seems to fail for just about everyone. Amaya 9.54 works perfectly.08:15
dystopianrayslestak: i've never run beryl, I don't know if my super key works with it08:15
jhutchinsabortd_: /msg is a server command, /m is just an abbreviation.08:15
NightBirdcongrats!08:16
slestakdystopianray: thx man.  im further along than i was :)08:16
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meme-1NightBird: Interesting that the Debian package Installer gave me a dumba** Windows-like message, basically telling me it isn't a good idea to use any other version but the one that is in Synaptic.08:18
dystopianraywoah!08:19
dystopianraythe ubuntu feisty beta digg post is up to 93 diggs aleady08:19
meme-1Who can I inform that Synaptic's repos... needs an update for Amaya (from 9.51 to 9.54)?08:19
meme-1"default repository" I mean.08:19
waylandbilldystopianray: so it did release today. I had heard rumors it was going to be.08:20
dystopianraywaylandbill: yes, go to #ubuntu+1 for details, it was released a couple of hours ago or so08:20
jhutchinsmeme-1: File it as a bugreport/wishlist.08:21
abortd_i know jhutchins :P its pretty much like mirc :P08:21
soulriderdoes anyone know if theres a way to send thunderbird to my tray ?08:21
waylandbilldystopianray: I heard on #kubuntu-devel. :-)08:21
dystopianraycool08:21
PF-Awaydugg:D08:21
PF-Away11108:22
PF-Away115 even08:22
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soulrideryou guys try to use torrents instead of justa  direct download, it will save bandwith :P08:22
dystopianrayfeisty beta hit digg front page08:23
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waylandbillsoulrider: with the kubuntu shorcuts dialog, you can give an icon in the tray, but it won't interact like telling of new mail or anything.08:24
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soulriderwaylandbill: so its kinda useless to have it running ?08:24
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soulrideri might as well just use kmail then08:24
waylandbillsoulrider: pretty much is only useful to hide it from the taskbar really.08:25
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waylandbillsoulrider: you could use a biff utility.08:25
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soulriderwaylandbill: whats that ?08:25
MenaHi08:25
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MenaHow to change my Homefolder name08:26
soulriderhi Mena08:26
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soulriderMena: your home folder has the same name as you08:26
Menano08:26
waylandbillbiff was an old unix utility to check mail. There's a few of them. I think kbiff is one.08:26
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Menai cahnged it08:26
waylandbill!info kbiff08:26
Menach*08:26
ubotukbiff: KDE mail notification utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.0-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 261 kB, installed size 1184 kB08:26
soulriderand you wanna change it back ?08:26
blue|palmis there any reason why my kde automount would just stop working for my flash drives and usb externals? Note: I installed ntfs-3g and then gparted recently08:26
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Menano the homefolder ec on the terminal its long08:27
Menabec*08:27
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soulrideri dont understand what you mean =/08:27
Menais there a command08:27
Menaor use tunesf208:27
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Menain any way i want to rename the home folder instead of makeing a new homefodler with the name i want :)08:29
jhutchinsblue|palm: I think there may be a bugreport on that... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs08:29
abortd_mena system setting then user management?08:29
jhutchinsmv /home/<oldname> /home/<newname>08:30
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Menaabortd, ok08:30
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abortd_listen to jhutchins08:30
Menaok08:30
abortd_prolly easier08:30
abortd_heh08:30
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Menajhutchins, is this a coomand mv08:31
Menacommand*08:31
abortd_u all have fun i gotta roll08:31
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jhutchinsblue|palm: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pmount/+bug/6885108:32
blue|palmjhutchins: thanks08:33
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waylandbillwooo. the power manager can now set the cpu speed to performance using the tray icon in feisty. it's about time. :-)08:36
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metty_hi @08:37
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otakumetty_: hello08:38
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juneare there any signals you can send to a process that will kill it "nicely"?  (similar to clicking the X button on a window)08:39
eagles0513875how can i remove drm from music that i have08:40
posingaspopularjune, "kill -process name"08:40
posingaspopularis that what you are asking?08:40
posingaspopularor killall08:40
juneposingaspopular: iirc that's not a very nice kill08:40
meme-1I have a challenge for y'all. Is there a Linux graphics app that can read Corel Photo Paint (cpt) and/or Corel Draw (cdr) files?08:40
junememe-1: i don't know for sure, but you might try inkscape for corel draw and gimp (maybe) for corel photo paint08:41
meme-1I tried Gimp and Inkscape... no go.08:41
junehaha08:41
junehrm08:41
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posingaspopularmeme-1, did you try gimpshop?08:42
meme-1Boy... I used to think it was just Adobe that shuned the Corel formats... but it seems to be a universal thing!08:42
posingaspopularjune, that's what i use for my kill08:42
meme-1posingaspopular: I'll check that out now.08:42
waylandbillmeme-1: that's the problem with proprietary formats, the lock in08:42
junewell i'm not so much trying to kill the process as i am trying to "close" it08:42
jhutchinsmeme-1: How about Corel Photo Paint?08:43
meme-1waylandbill: Not entirely true because the aforementioned programs all support Adobe's formats.08:43
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posingaspopularjune, imsorry but what's the difference between the two08:44
meme-1jhutchins: Are you telling me that Corel is available for Linux? I thought that was a short lived thing back in '99.08:44
MenaJHUTCHINS, THANKS08:44
Mena:)08:44
MenabYE08:44
metty_is there an email client on kubuntu?08:44
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blue|palmjhutchins: it didnt really help much... when i launch gparted it says automonting disabled... could this reflect anything in kde?08:45
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jhutchinsmeme-1: Yeah, it was just cpp using wine.08:45
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jhutchinsmetty_: kmail, among others.08:45
k3kshi08:46
k3ksgot a question08:46
jhutchinsmeme-1: In spite of the fact that corel had a distro for a while.08:46
meme-1jhutchins: I am trying to avoid the use of wine as much as possible. Hmmm... that sounds like I'm on the wagon. lol08:46
juneposingaspopular: well one's nicer than the other in my opinion, but i suppose the disctinctions not really there :-)08:46
juneanyways i got my answer08:46
k3ksi've got a palm and if i connect it it's sometimes /dev/ttyUSB1 and sometimes /dev/ttyUSB308:46
k3ksbut i like to have it always on the same08:47
waylandbillmeme-1: I try to avoid wine as well, but in this case you may need to in order to get the image out of corel format.08:47
metty_jhutchins: thx ;)08:47
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waylandbillor use a windows machine to.08:47
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k3ksis there a solution?08:47
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Mena!ipv08:48
waylandbillmeme-1: and the lock in wasn't that they supported other formats, but that they preferred their format.08:48
Mena!ipv08:48
meme-1waylandbill: Might as well just use Windows.... :-]   I also have a Windows XP machine. Basically, I am attempting to 100% replace Windows with ubuntu. It's been quite an effort.08:48
Mena!ipv608:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ipv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:48
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eagles0513875how can i remove drm from music that i have08:49
waylandbillmeme-1: while office can do rtf we'll say, doc is really it's preferred format.08:49
eagles0513875and r there any other mail utilities that can check webbased mail08:49
meme-1I am writing a book about this effort... some of the folks in here will feature... as extremely helpful! Thanks...08:49
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animimotushi08:49
animimotusfind . -type f | grep .svn    -----------> list me the files I want to delete but the rm `find . -type f |grep .svn`  don't work, what's the problem please?08:49
waylandbillmeme-1: as long as you don't put my photo in your book, you can use anything I say. :-P08:50
meme-1waylandbill: Everyone supports RTF... but few support Corel.    ha ha... okay no photo. :-)08:50
k3ksi've got a palm and if i connect it it's sometimes /dev/ttyUSB1 and sometimes /dev/ttyUSB3, how can ai avoid this?08:50
waylandbillmeme-1: that was just a for instance.08:50
jhutchinsmeme-1: If it's a really old file you can open it as a TIFF file.08:51
waylandbillmeme-1: besides. odf first and doc only to the windows people I deal with.08:51
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meme-1I did some investigating, it seems easy to obtain Adobe's proprietory formats but I cannot find anything on Corel's graphics formats newer than 1999.08:51
eagles0513875what email programs can check webbased email08:51
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anthronauteagles: thunderbird, for example08:52
eagles0513875have u used it is it rather easy to config and everything08:52
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jhutchinseagles0513875: You may find fetchmail interesting, I believe it has utilities for grabbing mail from things like gmail.08:52
eagles0513875what bout sendmail08:53
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k3ks i've got a palm and if i connect it it's sometimes /dev/ttyUSB1 and sometimes /dev/ttyUSB3, how can i avoid this?08:53
KaoticEvilis there a dist-upgrade to fiesty beta?08:53
jhutchinseagles0513875: Sendmail is an ISP grade mail server - probably more than you need.08:53
eagles0513875ok08:53
meme-1Never liked Corel... darn fools!  I used to work down the street from their main office in Ottawa a few years back. 1000 employees working in a "sweat-shop" Managers used to force employees to work usually long hours.08:54
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eagles0513875so u recommend thunderbird08:54
bibbobI have only few kcontrol- and kmenu-entries. Solution in http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=10082&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30&sid=aa60ae4e6f325ba923e0652127343d4a does not work. Any ideas?08:54
jhutchinsk3ks: Always plug your devices in in the same order?  Other than that, let me know if you figure it out.08:54
eagles0513875hey pf08:54
jhutchinseagles0513875: I use kmail - it's good for local servers, pop, or imap.08:54
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BluesKajanyone hear anything about K9copy freezing , shortly after beginning the copy ?08:54
eagles0513875all my email is http based08:54
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k3ksjhutchins: but i just unplugg the palm and replug it and it has a different "port", why?08:55
eagles0513875like gmail msn my college email which is actually java based08:55
k3ksjhutchins: wthout pluging anything other08:55
jhutchinsk3ks: System probably doesn't detect the initial unplug.08:55
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k3ksjhutchins: ok08:55
k3ksjhutchins: thx08:55
jhutchinsk3ks: Make sure you unmount it before you unplug it.08:55
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k3ksjhutchins: i don't really mount it at all08:55
jhutchinsk3ks: The system does though.08:56
k3ksjhutchins: ok08:56
meme-1eagles0513875: hope you also can connect via pop3 and backup your webmail. I once lost all my mail when the webmail server crashed a few years ago. Never trust a mail server you can't control yourself.08:56
MenaHow to get the Key for verification08:56
eagles0513875oh really08:56
eagles0513875i know msn does it automatically as well as the college08:56
eagles0513875do u know if gmail does08:56
Menaand also here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade what link to use if i  had a new installtion of kubuntu withou anu updates08:57
jhutchinseagles0513875: I think gmail has an option, possibly for a fee.08:57
Menaany08:57
eagles0513875i dont have much stuff on there if i can get a client on here then ill back up everything on here thing is i need to reinstall kubuntu though cuz im duel booting08:57
eagles0513875if i can get my open gl problem solved ill dump windows for good08:58
Menajhutchins, any idea :D08:58
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eagles0513875speaking of gmail has anyone used the gmailfs before08:58
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eagles0513875!gmailfs08:58
ubotugmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.2-2 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 156 kB08:59
BluesKajwas using thunderbird for a long time but the links in the emails failed to launch FF one day , dunno why, ..was about the same time progs started freezing after i tried to change my scrn res .08:59
meme-1eagles0513875: I just learned about this recently. But I have my own FTP server which I believe is more useful.08:59
eagles0513875im trying to setup my gmail account throug tbird what would be the incoming server pop or imapi08:59
eagles0513875lol ur lucky for me that woudl be usseful cuz im on 56k09:00
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meme-1As long as I pay my high-speed Internet bills. :-)09:00
bibbobpop.gmail.com09:00
jhutchinsMena: You're probably better of sticking with edgy for a while until you get used to it.09:00
eagles0513875ty bib09:00
bibbobdoes not support imap09:00
eagles0513875what doesnt gmail09:00
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Menajhutchins, no no no09:00
eagles0513875bib whatbout outgoin09:00
Menajhutchins, i used it befor09:00
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Menajhutchins, but this is a clean installton09:01
meme-1bibbob: most email servers (outside of corporate accounts) don't support IMAP09:01
eagles0513875bib r u register and may i pm ya09:01
eagles0513875meme u know much bout linux09:01
meme-1eagles0513875: I am about a 3 week newbie. lol09:01
bibbobsmtp.gmail.com09:01
Menajhutchins, The probelm in the page they said if you dont have edgy installed use this ...and if you have edgy kde 3.5.6 use this09:01
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Menajhutchins, so i didnt update but i have edgy09:01
BluesKajkmail is now my email client since Thunderbird stopped linking to browsers ...I like it09:02
eagles0513875lol09:02
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bibbobeagles: gmail uses ssl: so smtp is port 46509:02
eagles0513875u work with alot of servers meme09:02
meme-1eagles0513875: but I do know a little something about any OS that isn't Linux.09:02
Menajhutchins, So09:02
eagles0513875lol09:02
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bibbobpop ist ssl 99509:02
eagles0513875is there a way i can keep the mail on the gmail server09:02
meme-1eagles0513875: A bunch... 15 years as a network admin.09:03
eagles0513875nice meme may i pm ya09:03
bibbobyes. tick it in the gmail settings and in the kmail settings09:03
meme-1eagles0513875: Novell (before Linux version) and Windows mostly.09:03
eagles0513875im using thunderbord09:03
meme-1eagles0513875: sure09:03
eagles0513875lol i despise windows09:03
kaoticevil_wow.. that was cool09:03
bibbobMy KMenu is empty. Any idea?09:03
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metty_jhutchins is there also an emailclient which includes an advanced spam filter like microsoft outlook does?09:03
eagles0513875bib should i use kmail instead09:03
bill_kwhat does the kubuntu edgy dvd have that the cd doesn't?09:04
eagles0513875metty there r pkgs for that09:04
kaoticevil_is there an Ops in here who can kill my other nick, please?09:04
meme-1eagles0513875: Well back in the NT 4 days, it was terrible... but 2000 and up it did get very reliable.09:04
Menajhutchins, i need to get a public key09:04
jhutchinseagles0513875: That should be an option when you set up the server in Thunderbird - don't delete messages or something like that.09:04
bibbobeagles. whichever you like09:04
LjLkaoticevil: just do it yourself09:04
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kaoticevil_LjL: how?09:04
LjLkaoticevil: /msg nickserv ghost kaoticevil yourpassword09:04
LjLin the status window09:04
k3ksit seems that kpilot copies the things from the palm to the PC but not from korganizer to palm, anyone a idea?09:04
kaoticevil_ah09:04
eagles0513875there isnt j09:04
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eagles0513875wait a min09:05
KaoticEvilLjL: thanks :)09:05
eagles0513875meme is ur sn registered09:05
eagles0513875if its not then u should register so u can recieve pm's09:05
eagles0513875!register meme09:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about register meme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:05
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eagles0513875meme | !register09:05
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eagles0513875!register | meme09:05
ubotumeme: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:05
eagles0513875then that way u r the only one with that name09:06
metty_jhutchins:  is there also an emailclient which includes an advanced spam filter like microsoft outlook does?09:06
eagles0513875its like a chat program09:06
BluesKajjhutchins, why would thunderbird stop linking to browsers after changing scrn res09:06
AbortDshouldnt it just be /nickserv register password email09:06
BluesKaj?09:06
jhutchinsMena: Why not just stick with Edgy for a bit?  The repositories are in the middle of an update right now; you're going to have lots of competition when they finish.  Meanwhile, go back and re-read the directions.09:06
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k3ksit seems that kpilot copies the things from the palm to the PC but not from korganizer to palm, anyone a idea?09:06
The_Machineexcuse me09:06
betaare you supposed to use aptitude instead of ept-get from edgy on?09:06
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Wrong person to ask.  To me, it's a wonder any of the Mozilla products work in the first place!09:06
The_Machinefor some reason my /media/usbdisk is not writable09:07
betaapt-get09:07
eagles0513875i cant find where to change the setting for me to keep the mail on the server09:07
AbortDmozilla is great....09:07
meme-1eagles0513875: I thought I was already replying to you?09:07
Menai know09:07
The_Machinecould someone give me a hand about why i might not be able to write to it?09:07
The_Machine:)09:07
meme-1eagles0513875: I see your PM and I replied.09:07
jhutchinsThe_Machine: Probably mounted as root or r/o.09:07
The_Machineeven with su permissions09:07
The_Machinesorry09:07
eagles0513875if ur not registered and logged in i cant get ur replies09:07
bill_kswitching from ubuntu, anyone have tips before i install the kubuntu dvd?09:07
arvidI upgraded to feisty (pre-beta-alpha-whatever) and of course I have a problem :) when I boot from 2.6.20 (instead of the old 2.6.17) my mouse is totally dead :/ Where do you start debugging?09:07
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jhutchinsbeta: apt-get still works fine.09:07
bibbobbeta, you should always use aptitude b/c it has better dependency-control. But apt-get will work09:08
AbortDThe_Machine: is it a portable usb media?09:08
meme-1!register09:08
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:08
eagles0513875!register09:08
Iwonder|too|NotHThe_Machine: type mount09:08
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KaoticEvilbill_k: why install all over again? you can install package kubuntu-desktop09:08
The_Machineyes, it is AbortD09:08
KaoticEvilbill_k: then you could use either K or gnome, at your preference09:08
jhutchinsbill_k: Just use apt to install kubuntu-desktop.  No need for a full install.09:08
AbortDdid you mount it and is it write protected on the device? via a switch09:08
The_Machine/dev/sde1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)09:08
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bill_kKaoticEvil, because i've messed up some stuff.  I dont mind doing a clean install and would like a kubuntu disc anyways09:08
The_Machineno, it mounted automagically09:08
Iwonder|tooThe_Machine:  see that ro09:08
The_Machineahh, yes09:09
Iwonder|toomeans read only09:09
eagles0513875j may i pm plz09:09
The_Machinehow do i change that?  not sure why it mounted that way..09:09
KaoticEvilbill_k: ah, ok. good reasoning :)09:09
Iwonder|toohmmm09:09
The_Machineson of a..09:09
KaoticEvilThe_Machine: sudo gedit /etc/fstab09:09
AbortDis there a switch on the device The_Machine?09:09
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eagles0513875bib u still here09:09
The_Machineyes.  dammit.09:09
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The_Machinei'm a moron.09:09
KaoticEvillol09:09
AbortDi told you :P09:09
bill_kThe_Machine, is it ntfs?09:09
AbortDthats the first thing i said09:09
betabibbob: ok, i got different opinions on this....but ill use aptitude from now on then09:09
AbortDi did the same thing haha09:09
bill_klol09:09
jhutchins!kdesu09:09
eagles0513875bibbob u there dude can u pm me i need some help here09:09
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo09:09
KaoticEvilThe_Machine: thats nothing, i tried for 3 hours to get sound on Edgy.. only to find out my speakers were plugged into the wrong port09:10
The_Machineoh, i CHECKED It too09:10
betahad problems with apt before and ubuntuguide.org seems tp prefer aptitude as well09:10
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AbortDhahahahaha09:10
The_Machinebut the graphic is small09:10
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The_Machineand i just assumed..09:10
jhutchinsThe_Machine: ro is safe, so it defaults that way.09:10
The_Machinebecause i've never locked it09:10
The_Machinesigh.09:10
The_Machinethanks guys09:10
bill_kKaoticEvil, i've had many similar experiences09:10
eagles0513875if its ntfs he is going to need ntfs3g09:10
eagles0513875if he is duelbooting09:10
AbortDim glad i could help what tiny bit i did haha09:11
AbortDdualbooting09:11
bill_kdual boot09:11
jhutchinseagles0513875: It said it was vfat.09:11
AbortDbut if you would like to duel im game ;)09:11
eagles0513875oh then i dunno09:11
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bill_keagles0513875, only if you want the experimental write support to transfer files between.09:11
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eagles0513875i love ntefs3g09:12
eagles0513875what is the port for pop.gmail.com09:12
KaoticEvil99509:12
jhutchinseagles0513875: What was the problem you were having?09:12
bill_kthat's for the smtp.gmail.com09:12
bill_kssl09:12
KaoticEvileagles0513875: make sure you're using SSL09:12
bill_kthe pop server is mail.gmail.com09:12
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eagles0513875i am09:13
eagles0513875i wasnt sure hot to set it up09:13
AbortDhas anyone used this 3d desktop?09:13
eagles0513875now for msn would it be pop as well09:13
betadoes aptitude use the same /etc/apt/sources.list or a different one?09:13
bill_ksettings>forwarding and pop.  there's a link to instructions right on the page09:14
KaoticEvilbill_k: pop.gmail.com:995 (using SSL) and smtp.gmail.com:465 (using SSL)09:14
jhutchinsbeta: same09:14
betaok09:14
bill_kKaoticEvil, thanks09:14
jhutchinsbeta: You can actually manage it from the GUI if you prefer.09:14
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eagles0513875ty kaotic09:14
KaoticEvilbill_k: no problem.. just had to check Outlook to make sure09:14
Armagguedeshello09:14
jonathan_why must I rmmod ehci_hcd to get usb thumb drives to mount in edgy/2.6.17?09:14
KaoticEviln/p eagles051387509:14
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Armagguedesi was thinking of installing the beta, as i had to clear the hard drive. Are there any known problems from fresh beta installs?09:15
betajhutchins: so aptitude is behind all the graphical adept installation tool stuff from edgy on?09:15
bill_kKaoticEvil, outlook?09:15
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eagles0513875how do i set kmail to leave the mail on the server09:15
ubuntuhello world... :_09:15
KaoticEvilbill_k: yeah, Outlook 2007.. i use it on my windows box09:15
jhutchinsArmagguedes: Dunno, check #ubuntu+109:15
Armagguedesok tks09:15
bill_kKaoticEvil, thunderbird?09:15
ubuntuhelp please09:15
eagles0513875no kmail bill09:15
ubuntuwhats default root passwd?09:15
jhutchinsbeta: Far as I know, yes.  I tend to use apt-get.09:15
KaoticEvilbill_k: i don tuse my *nix box for email.. havent gotten around to setting it up yet09:15
paul__hi all, I hope this is not too dumb a question, but what is a splash screen and where do i use it09:15
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ubuntuim newbie in linux...09:15
eagles0513875what the password u typed in for ur user name ubuntu09:15
KaoticEvil!sudo | ubuntu09:16
ubotuubuntu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:16
eagles0513875that too09:16
bill_kubuntu, NEVER log in as root09:16
jhutchins!kdesu09:16
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo09:16
eagles0513875how do i set kmail to leave the mail on the server09:16
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betajhutchins: on dapper it was still apt-get right? why do you still prefer apt-get?09:16
ubuntuwhy bil_k?09:16
bill_kjhutchins, thanks , that will help me transition from gnome09:16
bill_kubuntu, not secure.09:16
KaoticEvilubuntu: there's no real need to... sudo lets you do everything you need09:16
ubuntuthanks for advice...09:17
bill_kubuntu, you'll fubar your computer real quick.09:17
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jhutchinseagles0513875: Check the "Leave fetched messages..." box.09:17
eagles0513875does kmail once i add an account and check for mail does it keep the mail on the server09:17
eagles0513875where09:17
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ubuntucan i use this Ubuntu for internet connection server at my office ???09:17
KaoticEvileagles0513875: let me look, wait one09:17
eagles0513875and this is in kmail kaotic09:17
jhutchinsbeta: It's just what I've learned.09:17
bill_keagles0513875, depends.  a msn setting, gmail setting, or kmail setting can all change that09:17
eagles0513875nm i got it09:18
yurimxpxmanhow can I change the resolution of a tty to fit my 1440x900 monitor?09:18
KaoticEvileagles0513875: under Account Settings, General Tab.. there's a check box09:18
eagles0513875lol lookin in wrong spot09:18
jhutchinsbeta: I prefer to do package management from the CLI instead of a GUI, the GUI's tend to be slower.09:18
jhutchinsGUI's are nice for browsing.09:18
eagles0513875i got it lol looked in sending tab instead of recieving tab09:18
eagles0513875*bangs head on desk09:18
KaoticEvillol09:18
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betajhutchins: yes though i actually cant do anything with the bash yet i always preferred to install stuff from here....adept just seems so bloated....so much stuff there...hehe drove me away instantly09:19
AaronCampbellIf I'm putting Kubuntu on an new AMD64 system, should I use the amd64 version?  I know it sounds funny, but when I tried it quite some time ago, lots of people were having problems with the 64bit version, and NOT the 32.09:19
ubuntucan i ask you one more questions? bil_k?09:19
eagles0513875aaron avoid 64 bit for a while09:19
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eagles0513875there still isnt good enough support for it09:19
ubuntuCan i use this OS as as Internet Connection Server???09:19
jhutchinsAaronCampbell: If you're doing something that really needs the 64b capabilities, go with it, otherwise 32's a lot easier to work with as a desktop.09:20
betajhutchins: so....does apt-cache sarches the aptitude cache or do i have to put in something different from now on?09:20
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eagles0513875u should be able to do just bout anything as long as u down load the correct pkgs ubuntu09:20
AaronCampbellthanks.  I'll get the 32bit torrent of the new beta (no reason to put the older stuff on a new system...it'll come out of beta in less than a month right?)09:20
jhutchinsbeta: Yes, but I only know that because I've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto09:21
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betathx09:21
mdtykeHey guys.  Just wondering if someone can help me with a few issues I've been having.  Basically, it's with my synaptics driver09:21
ubuntuwhat packages do i need eagles?09:21
jhutchinsEdgy was my first debian/ubuntu install.09:21
mdtykeWhen I put the laptop in and out of hibernate/suspend, the driver doesn't seem to load back09:21
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betashould do easy research like that on my own and i will09:21
mdtykeI usually have to End Session/Make a new one, for it to activate back in - and the touchpad is really unusable without it09:21
jhutchinsbeta: It's not that easy to find the good pages.  That's why I keep a cheat-sheet.09:22
voicuhi, i'm using edgy and since ktorrent was updated it uses way too much cpu09:22
voiculike 40% all the time but i only have 150kb of traffic09:22
voicuanyone else has this problem?09:22
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eagles0513875anybody know how i can setup msn mail in kmail09:22
jhutchinsubuntu: Have a look at  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/09:22
eagles0513875i tried pop.hotmail.com since its essentially the smae thing09:23
mdtykeDoes anyone have any idea how I can fix this?  It's really becoming quite bothersome09:23
betajhutchins: true i update my personal one every day :D09:23
jhutchinsvoicu: Seems to me I heard something about that.  Check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs09:24
voicuk, thanks09:24
mdtykeAnd can someone give me an idea how to upgrade to Feisty09:24
jhutchinseagles0513875: Ah, MSN is the one that charges for pop.09:24
mdtykeI did try, and it said to close Adept and wait for some thing to launch.. but it never does09:24
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KebianizaoHello09:25
jhutchinsmdtyke: Did you report it?09:25
eagles0513875u serious09:25
eagles0513875well i have a dialup account with em09:25
mdtykeReport what09:25
mdtykethe touchpad or the feisty u/g09:25
eagles0513875so i would have to pay to get additional pop support09:25
jhutchinsmdtyke: Both actually.09:25
betauhm, theres still only sun jre5 in the official repos not jre6, is that true?09:25
mdtykeNo09:25
mdtykeIm hoping they're just small issues.. hopefully the touchpad being fixed with an u/g to Feisty09:26
jhutchinsmdtyke: I think the touchpad thing's a known kernel bug.09:26
mdtykeDoes anyone know how I can upgrade to Feisty?  Or how to launch that updater manually09:26
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jhutchinsAs far as the beta-test updater hanging, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php has the URL to report problems, and the response looks pretty good.09:27
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slow-motionhallo09:27
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KaoticEvili may redo my main system with Edgy on it :)09:27
mdtykewell09:27
mdtykeI actually wasn't trying the Beta09:27
jhutchinsmdtyke: Are you on the latest kernel?09:28
mdtykewhen I was trying it earlier, the beta wasn't out.. only just noticed, but yay :)09:28
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mdtykeIm a total Linux newbie, so you'll have to explain to me how to check that jhutchins09:28
jhutchinsmdtyke: The updater is a beta-test thing.09:28
mdtykeI know I'm on KDE 3.5.6 though, if that's any help, and Kubuntu Edgy09:28
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KebianizaoI have a DLink DWL-G122 wireless USB dongle which is supposed to use the ralink rt73 driver. Problem is that can't associate to the AP. Kubuntu edgy09:28
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KaoticEvilare the KDE 3.5.6 packages finalized?09:28
Kebianizaoout of the box I have wlan0 and wmaster0 devices, but someone told me that I need to have rausb0, or on the contrary I'll be on trouble as I am09:30
Kebianizaoany idea?09:30
jhutchinsmdtyke: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade should give you the latest everything.09:30
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mdtykeIt doesn't upgrade to Feisty though does it, as I do that reguarly09:30
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jhutchinsmdtyke:sudo apt-get install linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 would do just the kernel & modules09:31
Iwonder|tooKebianizao: i have a pcmia card that uses same chipset09:31
MenaHey is it normal if i installed apps without verivfy09:31
jhutchinsmdtyke: No, it'll stay with edgy unless you run the updater or change your repos to Feisty.09:31
betauhm when i installed nvidia drivers the manual told me to  install nvidia-glx only ubuntuguide says install nvidia-kernel-common as well09:31
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betashould i add that....and what does it do?09:32
mdtykedamy linux-image file is -generic, 2.6.17.1109:32
Menaverification*09:32
Iwonder|tooit does same thing in ububtu,i did get it to work in gentoo with ndiswrapper09:32
Kebianizaoaseigo: welcome to Spain :)09:32
eagles0513875how do i fix this09:32
eagles0513875It's not possible to send messages without specifying a sender address.09:32
eagles0513875Please set the email address of identity 'Default' in the Identities section of the configuration dialog and then try again.09:32
jhutchinsmdtyke: Meaning you're pretty much current.09:32
aseigoKebianizao: hola =)09:33
Menajhutchins, is it okay :)09:33
KebianizaoIwonder|too: what driver are you using ;)09:33
Iwonder|toothe one off the windows instal,i think rt61.inf09:34
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Iwonder|tooit gives me ra0 as interface09:34
constantine-xviis there any way to change the default FM in kde?09:34
Iwonder|tooworks great'09:34
emonkey-pI want to upgrade my edgy with the upgradetool but it doesn't start after the click on Finish and closing adept manager. any idea?09:34
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jhutchinsemonkey-p: That's why they call it beta testing.  Please report it.09:35
eagles0513875It's not possible to send messages without specifying a sender address.09:35
eagles0513875Please set the email address of identity 'Default' in the Identities section of the configuration dialog and then try again.09:35
eagles0513875what does that mean09:35
Menahttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php mcheck this may help09:35
Iwonder|tooemonkey-p: reopen adept hit fetch updates09:35
Menacheck*09:35
emonkey-pIwonder|too, I did that 3 times now09:35
Iwonder|toodunno] 09:35
KebianizaoIwonder|too: any luck with the native one, this is intended for a newbie (it's not me tough)09:36
Iwonder|toothats how mine worked,09:36
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eagles0513875j u still there dude y do i keep getting this message09:36
eagles0513875It's not possible to send messages without specifying a sender address.09:36
eagles0513875Please set the email address of identity 'Default' in the Identities section of the configuration dialog and then try again.09:36
KebianizaoI wonder which one does edy include by default?09:36
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Iwonder|tooyes Kebianizao i found one online,it worked but to set up the nic was very difficult unless connecting to a non secure network09:36
bill_k!wireless09:36
emonkey-pjhutchins, I know but there's maybe someone who knows a workaround here. I'll report it immediately. thanks anyway. :)09:36
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:36
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jhutchinseagles0513875: Go into setup, go to the default identity, fill in your email address.09:37
bill_koOo it's the same as ubuntu09:37
bill_kduh09:37
jhutchinsemonkey-p: Might find something in #ubuntu+1.09:37
KebianizaoIwonder|too: could I have that link?09:37
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eagles0513875OK no another problem how do i gain authetication09:37
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Iwonder|tooi don't have it,i'm on kubuntu laptop at the moment09:38
Iwonder|toogoogle the chipset09:38
jhutchinsemonkey-p: You'll also probably find that it's already been reported at least once and may find a solution on the bugreport page.09:38
eagles0513875how do i run kwallet09:38
betado i still have to setup sun as the main java handling tool on edgy?09:38
KebianizaoIwonder|too: when I said native I was talking about a Linux native09:38
betacause there seem to be no guides for it for edgy09:38
betajust dapper and down09:38
Iwonder|toolinux driver,yes09:38
emonkey-pjhutchins, k thanky09:38
Iwonder|toowell rt61 module09:38
emonkey-ps/y/s/09:38
KebianizaoIwonder|too: ok, sorry09:38
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Kebianizaort61?, what about rt73?09:38
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Iwonder|tooit works,but when switching networks,like if i go to work,i had to edit a conf file,unload the modeule and reload it09:39
jhutchinsemonkey-p: If you find the answer, you can lurk here until the next one asks about it, then think how cool you'll look!09:39
Iwonder|toogoogle it09:39
Iwonder|toondiswrapper was way easier09:39
KebianizaoIwonder|too: I see now, so you have to edit a .sta file each time, isn't it?09:40
Iwonder|tooi did09:40
Iwonder|tooit may have improved since i tried09:40
KebianizaoI wonder why wireless drivers can't stick to wireless extensions aas they should09:40
emonkey-pjhutchins, I'll try... Unfortunately english isn't my native language and I'm not a well speaker09:40
Iwonder|toono idea09:40
KebianizaoIwonder|too: I doubt it since for rt2x00 it's quite problematic as well, anyway thanks for the info09:41
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Iwonder|tooyw09:41
Iwonder|toondiswrapper is loaded i believe and easy to use09:41
Kebianizaoone more question, do you know where I could find where that .sta file is on kubuntu?09:41
Iwonder|toono idea09:42
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Iwonder|tooi've benn using linux for about 7 years,but i'm new to ubuntu09:42
KebianizaoI'll try on native if I can find that find, if not I will have to do support in-site ;)09:42
Iwonder|took gtg to work09:43
KebianizaoIwonder|too: so do I, but for me it's difficult to explain a newbie about console commands, but when something got stuck it's the only way for me09:43
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mdtykeNow whenever I run Adept update, it's not showing me about Feisty09:47
mdtykeAny ideas how I get that box back up?09:47
RoyB72anyone wanna help a newbie (2 days), with compiling beryl? get lots of error messages when I do ./configure09:48
frojndhello, what is the name allready of win32codecs or smt09:49
epimethis there a jigdo download for feisty beta?09:49
frojnd!win32codecs09:49
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:49
frojnd!codecs09:49
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mdtykeAnyone have any ideas?.. cant get the Kubuntu Update Manager to come up.. no idea how to get it either09:50
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bxnpthe kubuntu update manager09:53
bxnpwhat is the name of that manager09:53
epimethbxnp: adept09:53
epimeth!jigdo09:53
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ubotujigdo: GTK+ download manager (beta version). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.3-1 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 440 kB09:54
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Mena-Smart_!third-party09:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about third-party - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
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Mena-Smart_!third-party repository09:54
epimethMena-Smart_: what are you looking for?09:54
The_Machinei like update manager09:54
Mena-Smart_epimeth, public key09:54
epimethpublic key for what?09:55
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Mena-Smart_epimeth, sec i will get it09:55
Mena-Smart_GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508809:55
epimethMena-Smart_: okay :-)09:55
Mena-Smart_i forget how to get the key09:55
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epimethMena-Smart_: when are you getting this error?09:56
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babagjust added section on 'manual editing of the xorg.conf file' to wiki if anyone wants to check it.09:58
babaghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto?highlight=%28serial%29%7C%28mouse%2909:58
babaghad problem with serial mouse. this got mine working.09:58
babagit's the last section09:58
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KaoticEvilanyone know of a program to convert SVGZ to JPEG?10:01
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epimethis there a jigdo download for feisty beta?10:01
kristjan_I'm stuck in _Modifying the source for your needs_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild  > I got the patch file, but how do I apply it?10:01
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Armagguedesi was thinking of installing the Kubuntu Feisty beta, are there any known problems from fresh beta installs?10:02
fdovingepimeth: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/10:02
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Mena-Smart__epimeth, sorry i wasnt here10:03
Mena-Smart__epimeth, i get this erro after updatting10:03
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Mena-Smart__epimeth, are you still here :?10:05
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inteliwasphow can i find the proper header pakedge to install for my current kernel while in terminal mode?10:06
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inteliwaspi mean the proper spelling10:06
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Kebianizaothanks all, bye...10:06
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sreckohello10:07
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Mena-Smart__Hi10:07
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cyber_cop#kubuntu-tr10:09
Menaepimeth, ?10:09
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jhutchinsinteliwasp:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/10:11
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jhutchinsArmagguedes: Yes.10:12
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Armagguedesyes what10:12
jhutchinsinteliwasp: Oh, sorry, wrong bit.10:12
Armagguedesi can't find anything10:12
jhutchinsinteliwasp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto10:13
jhutchinsArmagguedes: Right in the topic on #ubuntu+1 it says "You shouldn't use Feisty on Production Systems yet".10:13
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Armagguedesyes i does, and it said so for breezy too. yet i ran the betas back then without any particular problem10:14
Armagguedesjust a couple of punctual ones10:14
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jhutchinsArmagguedes: You could set it up in chroot and test to see if it works for you.10:15
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Mr_Sonomahas anyone had any trouble getting mjpegtools installed???10:17
jhutchinsArmagguedes: You could watch in #ubuntu+1 and see what's being reported, you could check the forums and http://bugs.ubuntu.com/10:17
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soulrider!pupularity-contest10:18
Mr_Sonomai tried apt-get and got a message back saying "pakage mjpegtools not availiable is only availiable from another source"10:18
soulrider!info popularity-contest10:18
Arwenhuh? is ubotu in here?10:18
ubotupopularity-contest: Vote for your favourite packages automatically. In component main, is standard. Version 1.33ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 212 kB10:18
soulrideryes10:18
frojndwhat's the name of codecs that play vmw files on the internet?10:18
Armagguedesok tks10:18
Armagguedesjhutchins,10:18
Arwenfrojnd, wmv you mean? libavcodec can do it in more recent builds, otherwise you want w32codecs10:19
betawhen i update my packet list it always ignores "Translation-de" from all repos why is that?10:19
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soulriderfrojnd: w32codecs10:19
frojndand what's name of package of embedded mplayer10:19
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soulriderbeta: maybe upgrading it will break other packages10:19
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jhutchinsMr_Sonoma: Do you have universe and multiverse enabled?10:19
soulriderfrojnd: uhm, not sure10:19
Mr_Sonomayes10:20
jhutchins!info mjpegtools10:20
ubotumjpegtools: MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:1.8.0-0.2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 523 kB, installed size 1348 kB10:20
jhutchinsMr_Sonoma: Are you sure?10:20
frojndsoulrider, Arwen, maybe u know what's the name of repositry that include that kinda thing?10:20
betahm, i lack some handbooks for kde applications10:20
Mr_Sonomai just double checked in adept again10:20
Arwenfrojnd, what kind of thing?10:20
betathought it might be the reason10:20
frojndArwen: w32codecs10:21
Arwengah, mjpegtools, wtf is mjpeg actually good for?10:21
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Arwenfrojnd, there's no good repository for that, you recycle the w32codecs.deb from debian, one sec10:21
jhutchins!mp3 | frojnd10:21
ubotufrojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:21
Arwenfrojnd, http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb10:21
eagles0513875has anyone downloaded vmware server for linux and set it up before10:22
Arwenit would be in repositories, but it's a copyvio in many places10:22
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Arweneagles0513875, nope, I don't have that much RAM10:22
eagles0513875onlly thing in repositories is vmware player10:22
Mr_Sonomait worked in a friends edgy machine. but i cant get it on my dapper has me puzzling10:23
jhutchinsArwen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP310:23
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Arwenjhutchins, seen it10:23
Arwencmon, don't link me to that10:23
ArwenI'm a regular10:23
__-osh-__eagles0513875: I've got it on my box. the tarfile. the installer wants to spread all over my system so I haven't allowed that yet. I'll see if I can hack it some... ;-)10:23
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rinanirHi, i want to access windows shares on another pc on the network. how can i do that? samba ?10:24
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jhutchinsArwen: You can also just download it from http://mplayer.hq10:24
Arwenjhutchins, meh10:24
eilkereagles0513875> yes i did,  www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server10:24
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Arwenjhutchins, actually, the wiki suggests fetching the debian copy10:25
icheyneanyone had any luck getting wireless rt2500 cards to work on the latest beta?10:25
betaedgy seems to give me more problems than dapper10:25
Arwenbeta, it doesn't have LTS.....10:25
mdtykeCan someone please HELP me upgrade to Feisty10:25
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eilker!lts10:25
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.10:25
frojndArwen: do I have to compyle this w32codec?10:25
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Arwenfrojnd, comply?10:25
mdtykeI can NOT get that Upgrade tool to appear, no matter what I do to Adept.. nor does dist-upgrade work10:25
Arwenor compile?10:25
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frojndcompile, sorry10:25
Arwenfrojnd, just install the deb (dpkg -i)10:25
frojndArwen: can u be a little bit more specific10:26
Arwenfrojnd, um, you downloaded the w32codecs-<something>.deb right?10:26
frojndArwen: yes10:26
rinanirHi, i want to access windows shares on another pc on the network. how can i do that? samba ?10:27
Arwenthen open a terminal, cd to the folder that the deb is in, and do "dpkg -i <debfile>"10:27
Arwenfrojnd, alternatively, just double clicking the deb might work10:27
frojndArwen: tnx10:27
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frojndArwen: I prefer terminal10:27
frojndrinanir: sudo apt-get install samba10:27
rinanirthen10:28
frojndrinanir: than go to K ->sytem settings -> share and share what u want10:28
mdtykeCan someone please HELP me upgrade to Feisty10:28
mdtykeI can NOT get that Upgrade tool to appear, no matter what I do to Adept.. nor does dist-upgrade work10:28
frojndrinanir: if the windows still can't see your files: sudo smbpasswd -a nickname10:28
rinanirfrojnd: i do not want to share, i want to see windows shares10:28
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frojndrinanir: try: sudo smbpasswd -a nickname10:29
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frojndrinanir: smb:// in konqueror I think10:29
Arwenrinanir, huh, I have that problem too, from what I know, you need to setup a DNS or a WINS server to do that using samba10:29
jhutchinsmdtyke: #ubuntu+110:29
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Arwensay, this channel isn't run by the same people as #ubuntu is it?10:29
jhutchinsmdtyke: Don't you understand what beta software means?10:30
frojndrinanir: if another user uses XP than u should create another user: adduser nickname10:30
frojndor is it addusr nickname10:30
mdtykeI'm not stupid jhutchins..10:30
frojndthan enter enter enter10:30
frojndis this corrent -> yes10:31
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mdtykeand #ubuntu+1 focuses on Ubuntu, not Kubuntu.. you know that as well as I do10:31
frojndu must add the same password for this user as the XP user has10:31
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frojndrinanir: than sudo /etc/init.d/samba resrart10:31
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frojndrinanir: than sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart10:31
frojndtha last one10:31
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jhutchinsmdtyke: #ubuntu+1 is Feisty, whether it's ubuntu, kubuntu, xubntu, edubuntu, whatever.10:32
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Arwenanyone here use edubuntu as their main OS?10:32
frojndrinanir: any luck10:33
rinanirfrojnd: trying10:33
funky_Dhello10:33
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frojndrinanir: don't forget to add new unix user the same password as he use for windows10:34
funky_Din windows you do dir joker.jpg /s and you get its location, how do you do it in kubuntu????10:34
frojndlocate name10:34
jhutchinsfunky_D: locate.10:35
Arwenfunky_D, (s)locate file10:35
funky_Dthanks ;)10:35
Arwenif it was newly created, you need to do updatedb10:35
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jhutchinsfunky_D:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html10:35
eagles0513875how do i compile and install a binary tar.gz10:35
jhutchins!compile | eagles051387510:36
ubotueagles0513875: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:36
BluesKaj!codecs10:36
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jhutchinseagles0513875: Understand that if you do that, you break the dependency tracking, may mess up where files are installed, and may not be able to uninstall it.10:37
funky_Ddiference between locate and slocate?10:37
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funky_Dnone?10:37
jhutchinsfunky_D: If you have slocate, locate will be aliased to it.  It obeys the system security rules and won't let you find files you aren't supposed to access.10:37
eagles0513875j i have the only vmware product there is is vmware player10:37
eagles0513875ive used it before u cant create virtual machines with it10:38
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jhutchinsfunky_D: You may find that you need to use sudo.10:38
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jhutchins!sudo | funky_D10:38
ubotufunky_D: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:38
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funky_Djhutchins: many thanks :)10:38
jbruckmanhello everyone. I have a question about quanta. I'm using it to develop a webpage, but the SSI(server side includes) aren't being previewed correctly(reall, at all). I get the feeling there's something I have to enable, but I don't know what it is. Any help?10:39
eagles0513875is there a server virtualization package j10:39
jhutchinsjbruckman: Yeah, I think you actually need Apache for those.10:39
funky_Djhutchins: it's because i wanted to export my kde theme to my laptop... but i can't find the kde theme.... :S10:39
jhutchinseagles0513875: Sorry, I don't do VMWare.10:39
jhutchinseagles0513875: I understand that there are alternatives like xen.10:39
jbruckmanjhutchins: i have an apache server, but uploading it to the server and then using the browser to look at it is a pain..10:40
jbruckmanjhutchins: i was hoping for a quick preview option...10:40
jhutchinsjbruckman: http://lists.kde.org/?i=44F5D253.1020009%20()%20WebsterRidge%20!%20com10:41
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jhutchinsjbruckman: Install apache locally.10:41
jbruckmanjhutchins: thanks10:41
eagles0513875ok10:41
laptopDoes a list of alterations to 7.04 exist?10:41
eagles0513875how does xen work10:42
laptopthings they worked on?10:42
gbCerberushi I'm trying to burn the fiesty iso (already did a checksum); I right click on the file and select "Write to disk...", all the options are ok and I hit Write, then it tells me to insert a rewritable or blank disk even though I already have one in the drive10:42
gbCerberusfeisty*10:42
jhutchinslaptop: Yeah, um...10:42
jhutchinslaptop: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta/Kubuntu10:43
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jhutchinsgbCerberus: What are you running now?10:43
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mdtykeCan anyone tell me how I can delete the list of packages.. as if to download them again from scratch?10:44
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gbCerberusI'm on ubuntu edgy, I guess I'm in the wrong channel...10:44
Menayes for ubuntu10:45
Mena#ubuntu10:45
jhutchinsgbCerberus: Yeah, I'm guessing that's gcombust or something, kubuntu uses k3b.10:45
Mena!ubuntu10:45
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome10:45
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Bongo5HH#ubuntu is the right channel for you10:45
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gbCerberusok, well, I have kubuntu as well and k3b doesn't load10:45
jhutchinsgbCerberus: Have you run k3bsetup?10:46
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gbCerberusnope, I'll try that10:46
dominikhello world10:46
jhutchinsgbCerberus: Ok, be warned it doesn't always work, but it should.10:46
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Bongo5HHhello dominik10:46
gbCerberusgetting an X error, guess I better relog in KDE, brb ;)10:47
dominikHello Bongo5HH, just popped in to see what guys are up to10:47
Bongo5HHis there some special trick to upgrading from Herd 5 to the Beta of Feisty?10:47
LjLBongo5HH: just update and upgrade as usual10:47
Bongo5HHSynaptic and Adept both say I'10:48
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jhutchinsBongo5HH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PoweredBy10:48
Bongo5HHI'm completely upgraded10:48
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LjLthen you're on the beta10:48
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Bongo5HHbut I didn't upgrade... it just found no new packages today.10:48
jhutchinsBongo5HH: SOrry, wrong clip.  It's in the topic, test the updater10:48
Bongo5HHWell ok I got three new kernals10:48
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Bongo5HHjhutchins: thanks, but I'm running Herd 5, that's for edgy10:49
mdtykeThe updater doesn't work here.. when I put in the updated repos, do an update - I don't get the update tool appearing10:49
Bongo5HHis there a version number I can find that will confirm?10:49
eagles0513875do i have to compile xen from source10:50
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Arweneagles0513875, doesn't look like it10:50
eagles0513875ok10:51
jhutchinsBongo5HH: They might know in the fiesty support channel at #ubuntu+1.10:51
eagles0513875ok10:51
Bongo5HHthanks jhutchins10:51
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mdtykeHow do I check what version of KDE I'm running, and how do I upgrade it to the latest if it's not10:54
laptopANYONE have trouble with LINE-IN audio??????10:55
wolferinewhat is a tool for formatting a drive/partition?10:56
eagles0513875qtparted10:56
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eagles0513875but for that u have to go into konsole and type sudo qtparted10:56
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Daisuke_Idooh, now that was weird10:57
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Bongo5HHok answer was the updates we've been getting all along take us up to the Beta that was just "released" we're already there.. that's why there are no updates... I feel silly now. :)10:58
wolferinewill formatting an entire partition, mess with my system? (fstab, etc..)10:59
wolferinei would rather prepare for this ahead of time, rather than after I format it10:59
eagles0513875yes i think10:59
eagles0513875dude back up all ur data and reinstall from scratch11:00
Daisuke_Idoum11:00
Daisuke_Ido"reinstall from scratch" is a windows solution11:00
wolferinewho are you talking to?11:00
Daisuke_Idonot a linux solution11:00
betaare there any known problems with ktorrent being unable to connect at all?11:00
wolferineformat == reinstall11:00
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wolferinelol11:01
eagles0513875back updata reformat and then reinstall11:01
Daisuke_Idowolferine: is this a partition used for storage, or is it / or /home or the like?11:01
wolferinesince when does a format mean an install?11:01
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Daisuke_Idoeagles0513875: there are better ways11:01
eagles0513875what r u trying to do wolf11:01
wolferinei really need someone who knows what they are talking about11:01
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eagles0513875ok daisuke ido take ovr dude11:01
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betait doenst work for me anymore on edgy...worked perfectly on dapper11:02
Daisuke_Idowolferine: is this a non-essential partition?11:02
Daisuke_Idojust used for storage or whatever11:02
Daisuke_Idonot mounted as / or /home or something rather important like that11:02
Freeza^kate doesnt work on my kubuntu install, i get an xserver crash but gedit runs just fine11:02
wolferinei want to format an NTFS drive, so its ext311:02
Daisuke_Idookay11:03
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Daisuke_IdoDO make sure you have anything you want off of it, of course11:03
Daisuke_Idothen you can just 'sudo qtparted'11:03
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wolferinewell, doesnt a format erase the entire drive...11:03
Daisuke_Idoerr11:03
Daisuke_Idono\11:03
wolferineha11:03
Daisuke_Idoit will erase a partition11:04
wolferineok, ill ask somewhere else11:04
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Daisuke_Idooi11:04
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ElCommanderHi there11:04
ForgeAushey all :)11:04
Daisuke_Idohey ForgeAus11:04
ForgeAussup?11:05
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Daisuke_Idojust trying to explain that formatting doesn't erase an entire drive unless you tell it to (someone's wanting to format an ntfs partition os ext311:06
Daisuke_Idosomething that should be relatively simple11:06
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ForgeAusformat or convert?11:06
ForgeAusor partition?11:06
Daisuke_Idohe says format11:06
ForgeAuswell format will erase the entire "drive" - at least if you consider the drive to be like windows drive letters...11:07
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Daisuke_Idowolferine: you *can* come back here you know, contrary to your belief we aren't idiots11:07
wolferineForgeAus, you know what your doing?11:07
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ForgeAusbut the entire DISK is another story11:07
Daisuke_Idonot drive, partition11:07
Daisuke_Idowolferine: i tried to help you, you got snippy11:08
ForgeAuswolverine, um that depends on the issue at hand11:08
wolferinei want to take an NTFS drive and convert it to ext311:08
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wolferineso I can use it as a backup11:08
Daisuke_Idobefore you said format, now you want to convert...11:09
ForgeAusI think you just use fsconvert ?11:09
wolferinewill this effect fstab, etc...11:09
ForgeAusoops convertfs11:09
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ForgeAusyes11:09
marcreichelthi!11:09
ForgeAusfstab meends changing11:09
eilker!alsa11:09
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:09
wolferineok, just fstab?11:09
marcreicheltis it possible to make a slideshow with Gwenview for all _subdirectories_ and files?11:09
ForgeAus(if its set to fuse for example or NTFS to read the NTFS partition it needs to be altered to ext3)11:09
ForgeAusjust the type flag mostly11:10
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ForgeAusI'm not entirely certain of other issues11:10
wolferinei want to convert it to ext3 so I can use it anytime I want11:10
ForgeAuswolferine that depends on where else its used11:10
wolferinerather than NTFS, which isnt fun in linux11:10
Daisuke_Idowolferine: if you dual boot, i recommend vfat11:10
pyrotixI ctr-alt-esc'd my desktop which turned black, what do I need to relaunch?11:11
ForgeAuswolferine, um you mean you have access/permission problems with it?11:11
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Daisuke_Idoand ntfs-3g is incredibly stable these days11:11
wolferineForgeAus, im not looking to resolve that, its a bit offf topic11:11
ForgeAusif you want to mount it that way change default in fstab to user11:11
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Daisuke_Idopyrotix: ctrl-alt-f7?11:11
wolferinei want to make it into ext3, so I can use it, and I am just unsure if fstab is the only thing affected (changing - in fstab- from ntfs into ext311:12
ForgeAusyou can USE it as ntfs11:12
Daisuke_Idoyeah, that's the only thing that it should affect.11:12
ElCommanderWhat else should be affected?11:12
wolferinei dont want it to be ntfs11:12
ForgeAusok then use convertfs11:12
wolferineas I have explained, I want it to be ext311:12
ElCommanderIn fstab you define, which filesystem it is so that it can be mounted correctly11:12
wolferinewhat is convertfs?11:13
ElCommanderThats the only file which needs to be changed after conversion11:13
Daisuke_Idouse convertfs, then change the entry from ntfs  to ext311:13
Daisuke_Ido!convertfs11:13
ubotuconvertfs: in-place filesystem conversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 20050113-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 116 kB11:13
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wolferineForgeAus, can I just pm you pls?11:13
ForgeAusthe commandline is: convertfs /dev/<devicename, ie hd0 or sd1, etc> <fstype> <fstype>11:13
arvidfor some reason my fglrx.ko disapeard after a reboot :/ how do I get it back?11:14
ForgeAusso an example would be: convertfs /dev/sd1 ntfs vfat11:14
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ForgeAusthe man page uses this example : convertfs /dev/hda2 ext2 reiserfs11:14
ForgeAusand yes you can pm me11:14
wolferinethank you11:15
ForgeAusI havn't tried doing it11:15
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jhutchinsForgeAus: I would expect it to be very slow.11:15
Daisuke_Idowish me luck, gentlemen and ladies11:15
Daisuke_Idoassuming there are ladies present...  out of 370 people, there's bound to be at least one11:15
jhutchinsIt might be quicker to just copy anything you want to save and re-format it.11:15
ForgeAusjhutchins I don't expect it to be fast...11:15
Daisuke_Idojhutchins: that was my original suggestion before getting blackballed11:16
Daisuke_Ido:D11:16
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jhutchinsDaisuke_Ido: Well, as asked for, good luck.11:18
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jhutchinsI think I'll go feed the horses.11:19
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frojndhello I have this problem with sharing mo3'211:21
frojndmp3's11:21
frojndXP usre can't copy from me and I can't copy from him11:22
frojndallways is error11:22
frojndand I can't copy just mp3, other files I can... also he11:22
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metty_hi, can anyone pls help me? i think i'm just too stupid -.- just want to execute a .run file and if i klick on it, it opens with kate...11:23
Arwenfrojnd, um, speak more plainly and in less lines11:23
Arwenmetty_, chmod +x11:23
frojndCould not read smb://Bad Religion.mp3 ....11:23
frojndwhy is that11:23
Arwenfrojnd, dunno, do other files work?11:24
frojndArwen: yes... if .avi .rar .jpg etc11:24
metty_Arwen: the file's on a cd.. how can i use the chmod in this case pls?11:24
frojndjust mp311:24
Arwenmetty_, you can't11:24
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Daisuke_Idoconnection's nuts today11:24
Arwenfrojnd, could it be the space in the filename?11:24
metty_Arwen: well, that sounds nice :D is there a possibility to execute this file?11:25
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Arwenmetty_, try mounting the CD with some kind of umask= parameter11:25
Arwene.g. umask=000011:25
Daisuke_Idohere's a question, why won't the feisty updater work with kde 3.5.6 installed?11:25
metty_Arwen: k thx a lot11:25
intelikeyhowto determine the device that the MBR is on ?11:25
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, third party repositories maybe? it's beta software...11:25
Arwenintelikey, all your devices should have MBRs, what are you talking about?11:26
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Daisuke_Idonope, official repository11:26
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intelikeyArwen yes but how to determine which the bios reads ?11:26
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, um, afaik 3.5.6 is only available from the kde.org repository?11:26
Arwenintelikey, first hard drive11:26
Arwenalmost always11:26
intelikeyArwen and all can not all should11:26
royskiHI, looking for help, new to ubuntu/kubuntu.. Successfully load ubuntu from live CD, after a few days, downloaded iso image of kubuntu and loaded it successfully, but was hoping to be able to login during "startup cold" and select which version (Gnome or KDE) to run and be able to swap from one ot the other until I finally which one to stay with, need advice on what todo.11:27
intelikeyArwen ok so how to find the first hd   will it always list first in fdisk -l  or something ?11:27
Daisuke_Idodeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main11:27
Arwenintelikey, err, you don't know which or your hard drives is first?11:27
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, yeah, like I said, third-party11:27
Arwenfirst-party would be ubuntu.com11:27
Daisuke_Idoah11:27
Daisuke_Idoi see11:28
Daisuke_Idowell then11:28
Daisuke_Idoon with the upgrade!11:28
intelikeyanyone know how to find the MBR ?     cli means please ?11:28
Arwenintelikey, how to find the MBR?11:28
intelikeyArwen it's ok, there are always things we don't understand.11:28
Daisuke_Idoi just got a headache.11:29
Arwenintelikey, you want to know which of your MBRs your BIOS is reading right?11:29
intelikeyyes11:29
frojndArwen: now that I unspace tha name of file it says that file is in use.. how lame can that be11:29
Daisuke_Idohda0, most likely11:29
intelikeyon any box at any time.  arwen11:29
Arwenintelikey, that would be your first hard drive, /dev/sda probably, /dev/hda if you don't have sata or your system is weird11:29
Daisuke_Idoah11:29
pyrotixI ctr-alt-esc'd my desktop which turned black (my wallpapers are gone), what do I need to relaunch?11:29
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, there's on 0, when you're talking about the MBR, you don't use a partition number11:29
ForgeAuskde 3.5.6 might be in edgy proposed or even just edgy11:30
Arwenno 0*11:30
Daisuke_Idoright11:30
Arwenpyrotix, kdesktop I think11:30
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intelikeyanyone know a command to check for MBR ?11:30
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Arwenintelikey, what do you mean by "check for mbr"?11:30
Arwenthat makes no sense, it's not an intelligible statement11:30
intelikeyanyone ?11:31
Lynoureintelikey: it's the first part of the disk, it is always there. What's in it is a another matter.11:31
Arwenintelikey, ^^11:31
mauroalguien habla espaol??11:31
intelikeyLynoure know a command to test for the systems MBR ?11:31
Lynoureintelikey: you can write it to a file with this:  dd if=/dev/xxx of=mbr.backup bs=512 count=111:31
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intelikeyok i'll ask some place else thank for trying guys.11:32
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Daisuke_Ido...?11:32
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Lynoureoh well...11:32
ForgeAushehe wierd11:32
LynoureAnother case reminding me why I was planning not to do support anymore.11:33
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Arwenintelikey failed at life.....11:33
Arwenit's worse in #ubuntu :-\11:33
ElCommander:D11:34
ForgeAuslol Lynore :)11:34
LynoureArwen: well, I left #ubuntu the day I decided to take a vacation from support :)11:34
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ForgeAusI wonder if he meant to check if the bootstraps for grub and/or lilo were in the mbr11:34
ArwenLynoure, I left when I was banned....11:34
Daisuke_Idowho knows...11:34
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, so, is anything actually using that file?11:35
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Arwenmaybe the host computer has some kind of drm rootkit on it?11:35
ForgeAusLynoure you know that mbr.backup file, how can I get one :)11:35
Daisuke_Idoso is any what huh?11:35
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antonio_ciao a tutti11:36
ArwenForgeAus, dd if=<hard drive device> of=mbr.backup -bs=512 -count=1 I think11:36
Arwencareful though, I'm not sure11:36
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weedaris there a way to make a command make a noise ("ping") when it finishes? I compile a few things and hate checking back to se if it's done11:37
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weedarmaybe piping it to a command that creates a noise?11:37
LynoureForgeAus: with that command I gave you. it's an of not if.11:37
Arwenweedar, attach "&& <command playing noise>"11:37
Arwenthat'll play the sound if it succeeds11:38
LynoureForgeAus: s/you/intelikey11:38
weedarArwen: nice. Do you know of a command that does such a thing? :)11:38
Daisuke_IdoArwen: what were you saying about something using a file?11:39
Arwenweedar, um, mpg321 or mpg123 plays MPEG-1 Layer 3 (mp3)11:39
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ForgeAushehe its ok11:39
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, never mind :-\11:39
Arwentoo late now11:39
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Arwenweedar, ogg123 plays Ogg Vorbis/FLAC11:39
Arwenor, you could just use mplayer11:39
ForgeAushmmm I need to learn more about bootloaders11:39
weedarArwen: then I'll have to create a short noise myself, unless I feel like hearing an entire song :)11:39
Arwen:-\11:39
Arwenweedar, try the infamous "Hey everybody, I'm looking at GAY PORNO" mp3?11:40
ForgeAuscan NTFS (and or GRUB) boot (without passing through to another bootloader) both XP and Kubuntu?11:40
ArwenForgeAus, ntldr you mean? and no11:40
Arwenthe startup process for Windows and Linux are different11:40
ForgeAusie how do you put a Linux boot string (ie root=/dev/<rootdevice> etc)...  in ntldr and/or put something in Grub to start up XP bypassing ntldr?11:41
ForgeAusArwen yes I  know they're different11:41
Daisuke_Idodoesn't grub chain to ntldr?11:41
ForgeAusyes11:41
Daisuke_Idoi don't dual boot11:41
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ForgeAusI dual boot and yes it chains to ntldr to do that11:41
weedarArwen: for some odd reason I never saved that somewhere sane ;)11:41
ArwenForgeAus, you can't have ntldr or grub boot both, you have to have one boot the other bootloader11:41
Arwenweedar, lol11:42
Daisuke_Idoi don't think you can, i think xp absolutely requires its own bootloader11:42
ForgeAusArwen explicitly *can't* or you don't know how to?11:42
ArwenI used to have a copy, but in the latest Last Measure (4.1?) it's a swf11:42
ArwenForgeAus, can't11:42
ForgeAusArwen ok...11:42
Arwenntldr boots grub, grub boots ntldr, end of story11:42
bet4which are popular bittorrent clients for linus...beside azureus and ktorrent? i used torrent on windows so id prefer something similiar lightweight11:42
bet4linux11:42
ForgeAusum ntldr boots grub? uh? how?11:42
Arwenbet4, um, bittornado maybe11:42
Arwenbet4, but azureus and ktorrent are about as good as you'll get11:43
ForgeAusGrub passes through (chains) to ntldr I know that much11:43
ForgeAusntldr is fairly generic11:43
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ArwenForgeAus, ntldr can boot a file, which can be a copy of the grub MBR11:43
Arwen:-)11:43
ForgeAusits not just for XP, 2k (possibly even NT systems) used it11:43
Daisuke_Idobet4: the latest version of ktorrent is quite nice, added support for rss feeds11:43
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Arwenyeah, ktorrent is good (I use azureus, ick @ 100MB mem)11:43
ForgeAusArwen, whats the filename?11:43
bet4Daisuke_Ido: yes i liked ktorrent but unfortunately it doenst work anymore for me on edgy11:43
MinceRrtorrent, Mainline (the official client) and BitComet seem to be popular11:43
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MinceRmy favorite is rtorrent11:44
ForgeAusand how do you refer to it?11:44
Daisuke_Idobitcomet is bad11:44
ArwenForgeAus, for what? the mbr clone? you make it yourself and name it however you want11:44
MinceRs/seem/also seem/11:44
MinceRi've heard BitComet is bad but nevertheless it seems to be popular :)11:44
ArwenForgeAus, to boot grub with ntldr, you add a section under "operating systems" in C:\boot.ini containing the path to a copy of grub11:44
ForgeAusby mbr clone you mean like what the old dos sys command used to do?11:44
Daisuke_Idofor torrents on public trackers, it's fine, but it cheats (fudges numbers) so it's banned on most private trackers11:45
ArwenForgeAus, don't think so, an mbr clone is a physical copy of the first 512 bytes of your hard drive11:45
MinceRprivate trackers suck anyway11:45
ForgeAusok11:45
Arwenmeh, they're ok11:45
MinceRthey're run by people who don't understand how bittorrent works.11:45
Daisuke_Idonot really11:45
Daisuke_Idothey understand full well how it works11:45
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ArwenMinceR, otherwise you get leeching big time :-\11:45
Daisuke_Idoexactly11:45
MinceRwhy do they limit the number of peers available then?11:45
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MinceRinteresting, i don't leech even though i'm not forced not to do so11:46
Daisuke_Idoit's generally a narrower scope anyway11:46
MinceRand it seems that most users don't leech11:46
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Daisuke_Idoon public trackers, a lot leech and a few good samaritans seed11:46
SheeEttinIs this the right place to ask for fglrx/xorg/DRI problems, or not?11:46
Daisuke_Idoi seed to 1.5 minimum11:47
ArwenI just seed to 1.0 - upload caps11:47
MinceRi tend to seed to 1.1 but if the stuff is really good i seed for more :)11:47
MinceR(or if it was drying up at some point)11:47
bet4is there any torrentclient than can search mutiple torrent sites at once?11:48
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bet4that would be handy11:48
Arwenbet4, ktorrent11:48
Daisuke_Idofor isntance, a private tracker i belong to is jpopsuki.  it's a pretty narrow scope, but most people who are into the material know about it and use it, so it's not really a limit, just sign up11:48
Arwenbut, why bother?11:48
bet4Arwen: doenst work anymore unfortuantely...but how do you make it search in mutiples at once btw?11:48
MinceRmost of them are invite only; and it's just too much hassle anyway11:49
Daisuke_Idoah11:49
MinceRjust like websites you need to register on to view the content11:49
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metty_hmm why can't i save a file from the internet to my space? i don't have the permission to ot?11:49
metty_it11:49
Daisuke_Idothose aren't the ones i'm talking about11:49
Arwenbet4, dunno, I use azureus which by design has no search11:49
SheeEttinSo, uh, I should ask somewhere else?11:49
MinceRrtorrent doesn't have search either11:49
Daisuke_Idooink and such?  THOSE are run by people that want their little elite group to stay that way11:49
mauroalguien que hable espaol11:50
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Daisuke_Idobut a "private" tracker that just requires a signup, not a problem11:50
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SheeEttinK, I'm off then.11:50
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armanhii11:51
armanany one there?11:51
alphi_hello11:52
armanhow are you?11:52
Arwenarman, no11:52
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armanwhat?11:52
FOADHi.11:52
metty_hu11:52
armanlol ok11:53
armaneverybody uses kubuntu here?11:53
Arwenarman, Ubuntu, they just banned me from the channel11:53
ArwenI have basic knowledge of KDE, so it's all good :-)11:53
armanoh i see11:53
armanso your a good KDE user?11:54
metty_would someone be so kind to help me pls? why can't i save a file from the internet to my space? i don't have the permission to ot?11:54
Arwenna, GNOME for the win11:54
armani just installed kubuntu11:54
Arwenmetty_, more details?11:54
Arwenarman, I got nothing against KDE, but I find the default Kubuntu look eye-damaging11:54
Daisuke_Idoarman: welcome to the cult, kool-aid is on the table over there11:54
Daisuke_Idoseriously though, welcome to kubuntu11:54
armanthank u :D11:55
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armanim gladd im here the people here are better then windows xp users lol11:55
Arwennah, ##windows is a great place11:56
Daisuke_Idoi shouldn't say this, but the people i've met here are about 10 times friendlier than users of nearly any other linux distribution11:56
Daisuke_Idohere it's "what kind of help do you need?", there it's "RTFM and STFU!"11:56
arman:)11:56
armanlol thats true11:56
metty_Arwen: i just want to download a driver from a website but when i select my folder,  there is a failure whichs says that i don't have the permission to11:56
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Daisuke_Idometty_: what directory are you trying to save to?11:57
fluffleshi, does kubuntu has some pkg manager or smt? i've got a user who wants to install firefox, should he just do a manual install or are there smarter ways?11:57
metty_Arwen:  lol it works now .... don't know why... just tried it 10 times.. i wanted to install it to my personal folder11:58
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Daisuke_Idofluffles: use adept to install packages11:58
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Daisuke_Ido!adept > fluffles11:58
metty_Arwen: but thanx again :)11:58
flufflesthanks11:58
Arwenlol11:58
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome11:59
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wolferinewell, that wasnt so nice11:59
Daisuke_Ido3 hours to go :\12:00
armanfor what?12:00
wolferinesystem froze, then i had to reboot12:00
bet4stupid question, how do i find a specific application launcher i just installed?12:00
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compilerwriterfluffles there are much smarter ways12:00
Arwenbet4, a launcher?12:00
Daisuke_Idofor all of the files for the 6.10 > 7.04 upgrade to finish downloading12:00
compilerwriterfluffles: One can get firefox from the repos.12:00
bet4Arwen: i mean the executable file that starts the program12:00
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wolferineis it a beta rls now?12:00
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Just be happy it's not like WoW12:01
Daisuke_Idofluffles: yes, you can also 'sudo apt-get install firefox'12:01
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MinatakuWhere there's 100MB of files to download for updates every 12 hours12:01
Arwenbet4, like /usr/bin/firefox or something?12:01
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compilerwriterfluffles there is synatic, apt-get, and adept is a front end for apt-get.12:01
Arwenor like a .desktop file that's in your K Menu?12:01
fluffleswell i asked it for "arman" he uses kubuntu. but adept looks ok.. and i think packages are more easy than source based managers12:01
flufflesat least for end users like him12:02
compilerwriterfluffles s/synatic/synaptic12:02
armanlol i dont know anything about anything i feel dumb12:02
armanim kind of new :P12:02
armanactually i am new12:02
compilerwriterArman we were all newbies once.12:02
Daisuke_Idono harm in being new12:02
bet4Arwen: uhm, i dunno i just installed bittornado and i doenst start with bittornado (-bin) and its not in the menu so i wondr how to start it12:02
compilerwriterArman we do not bite.12:02
armanlol i thought there would be cursing wen i first came in12:02
Daisuke_Idoyou're already showing a willingness to learn something new, otherwise you wouldn't have left windows :)12:03
Arwenbet4, try locate bittornado12:03
armanu guys seem way to nice :)12:03
bet4whereis only gave me the icon /usr/share/app-install/icons/_usr_share_pixmaps_bittornado.xpm12:03
compilerwriterbet4 start it from the console12:03
metty_Arwen:  as i said befor i now have the driver (.run) in my private folder. how can i execute it now pls? with a click in it, i just get opened with kate..12:03
wolferinebet4 use which bittornado12:03
bet4no, locate gave me that not whereis12:03
Arwenif not, go to adept, find bittornado, and find the list of installed files12:03
Daisuke_Idometty_: is this nvidia's driver by chance?12:03
Arwenmetty_, chmod +x it, then run it with sh12:03
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bet4wolferine: what do you mean?12:03
compilerwriterDaisuke is correct arman.  You are willing to try.  Therefore you are showing more courage than a lot of people I know.12:04
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armanthank u :)12:04
compilerwriterArman:  On the other hand you are also showing more courage than I would want my mother to.  Fortunately you are a bit more computer savvy than my mother.12:04
Daisuke_Idowhee!  file 217 of 1074 :(12:05
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Daisuke_Idohehe12:05
metty_Arwen:  thank you, it works ;) what does sh stand for please?12:05
compilerwriterHoly Christ Daisuke_Ido what in the name of Buddha are you downloading12:05
Arwenmetty_, *sh*ell12:05
Daisuke_Idocompilerwriter: it's the feisty upgrade tool12:05
Arwenit's the thingy on the command line that reads commands12:05
arman:)12:06
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compilerwritermetty_ it stands for shell.12:06
arvidI tried: "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)" and "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" but I still don't have a fglrx.ko on my system :/ What do I do?12:06
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compilerwriterIt is a program to use to interact with the kernal.  You tell shell what you want the computer to do and then it tells the kernal what you want done.12:07
compilerwritermetty_  I think I should have been spelling that kernel.12:07
bet4Arwen: ok, adept didnt find anything related to bit(tornado)12:07
Arwenbet4, oh well12:08
bet4it did install bittornado though via aptitude12:08
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orange1c0nv1ct: u alive?12:08
compilerwriterMaybe i will just back up my home  directory and install from cd.12:08
c0nv1ctya12:08
Daisuke_Idocompilerwriter: as long as you've got a decent net connection, no problems12:09
antonio_someone italian?12:09
c0nv1ct!it | antonio12:09
ubotuantonio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:09
orange1c0nv1ct: lets say i wanted to connect to irc from my school's limited connection -- by using my home connection - what is this process called?12:09
bet4uhm, adept is mighty buggy i suppose...if i only check installed it finds nothing conatining "bit" if i check uninstalled to it finds bittornado as installed12:09
c0nv1ctorange1: tunneling?12:10
antonio_tnx12:10
acemois there anyway that i can set mplayer as default for all filetypes it supports? w.o having to right click, choose with, set this as default for each and single one of them?12:10
bet4on the other ahand locate bittornado also only gave me the icon12:10
c0nv1ctorange1: you could use ssh, or vnc too i guess12:10
orange1c0nv1ct: which is better?12:10
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c0nv1ctorange1: depends if you want a GUI or a CLI12:10
orange1gui12:11
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c0nv1ctorange1: then you will want a vnc12:11
bet4Arwen: ok, how do i find out how to launch it now?12:11
metty_compilerwriter, thx ;)12:11
Arwenbet4, uh... difficult, one sec12:11
metty_gn8 ;)12:11
orange1c0nv1ct: it doesnt matter if my home desktop is a windows box?12:11

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