[12:12] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: one ends 1 and the other 2
[12:12] <pollyo> madmonk: Hope that helps.  I have to run.
[12:12] <|Iwonder|> ok
[12:12] <pollyo> BBL
[12:12] <madmonk> pollyo: ty i'll try
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Hasrat_USA: not sure, I don't do networking at all
[12:12] <Hasrat_USA> yeah me either
[12:12] <DrX> firecrotch, the thing is, I have a VM in there that is running & working & I don't want to lose it (too many hours invested)
[12:12] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: So far, I lost my 3d accel, because I was trying to figure out why rockbox won't compile. it keeps asking for some gcc stuff that IS installed and I saw an old gcc 9it was 3 i think) and thought maybe i should get rid of it since I had newer versions, but when I put on flgrx it was stupid and used 3 instead of 4 so it uninstalled it and I can't get it back. Also I can't play...
[12:12] <Alonea> ...music from a cd because my system goes all wonky and I do have DMA on my drive. Also can't shutdown, reboot, etc. with FGLRX on...
[12:13] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: all of the #rockbox people are baffled as to why my system wont compile it.
[12:13] <Hasrat_USA> first of all, what's rockbox?
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Hasrat_USA: free / open firmware for music players
[12:13] <Hasrat_USA> in brief
[12:14] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: what he said...
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> grrrr, Launchpad is timing out on me
[12:14] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: its awesome.
[12:14] <Hasrat_USA> and you really need to compile it?
[12:14] <Hasrat_USA> why did you want to build it from the source?
[12:14] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: Oh, i used patches like album art and insert patch.
[12:15] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: So I have to build from source, which I have never had a problem doing before...
[12:15] <Hasrat_USA> I have not tested my cd drive to see if it can play audio cds cause i don't have an audio cd lol
[12:15] <Hasrat_USA> oh okay
[12:16] <Hasrat_USA> i don't have DMA
[12:17] <Hasrat_USA> hmm lots of issues
[12:17] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: oh yes. I accidentally create problems daily it seems.
[12:17] <Hasrat_USA> hoarders would get a pile of money...that's true...hackers that's trueeee
[12:18] <Hasrat_USA> creating problems is fun
[12:18] <Alonea> I don't mean to! it just...happens..
[12:18] <Kr4t05> In Bash-scripting, how do you check SUID?
[12:18] <Hasrat_USA> Alonea: you seem to be a good hacker
[12:19] <egonw> moin. I have a compile problem with shfs with feisty, when using module-assistent it fails to compile for the 2.6.20 kernel. Ideas?
[12:19] <Hasrat_USA> Alonea: how long have you been staying away from that retarded piece of crap called winblows?
[12:20] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: hmm, hacker I wouldn't say. More like good with problems relating to computers. Actually, I have only had linux for 2 months, though I was constantly killing windows too. I am a computer science major.
[12:20] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: are u still here?
[12:21] <|Iwonder|> yep
[12:21] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: when I get more experienced with code (besides website related stuff and more into C, C++, java) I plan to help out in the rockbox project and other open-source projects
[12:22] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: i'm trying to add my nic as a new zone
[12:23] <|Iwonder|> madmonk:  looking now at guarddog
[12:23] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: Another reason it took me a while to get linux was due to the fact I didn't have my own computer.
[12:23] <|Iwonder|> the zone internet is established
[12:23] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: sorry?
[12:23] <|Iwonder|> this is where you are moving data?
[12:23] <|Iwonder|> my guarddog came with internet zone allready
[12:24] <Hasrat_USA> oh wow
[12:24] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: also mine...
[12:24] <Hasrat_USA> what was the year when you had your own computer?
[12:24] <|Iwonder|> this is where you would enable what you want if you are trying to get data from the internet
[12:25] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: yep...but it doesn't work...
[12:25] <madmonk> :(
[12:25] <|Iwonder|> perhaps your rule is misconfigured
[12:25] <|Iwonder|> a syntax error?
[12:26] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: I have only had my won computer for almost a year and before that I was busy with school stuff so didn't do a lot on my computer except for word processing and internet. Finally gained some time and got back into code which was when I got my linux box.
[12:26] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: i don't think so dude...
[12:27] <|Iwonder|> k you added new protocol on advanced tab?
[12:28] <madmonk> yes
[12:28] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: I also spent some time beta'ing vista and seeing where windows improved and where it didn't. All I know is that I turned off user access control within 5 minutes...
[12:28] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: TCP 4662 bidirectional
[12:28] <Hasrat_USA> hmm
[12:28] <|Iwonder|> that showed up in internet zone,protocols? and is checked?
[12:29] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: and all the others
[12:29] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: yes
[12:30] <Jisao> is there a kubuntu doc channel?
[12:30] <eilker> what do u do if u forgot your root and user password ??
[12:30] <Hasrat_USA> eilker: i try to remember it
[12:30] <|Iwonder|> madmonk: look in /var/log
[12:30] <eilker> Hasrat_USA> second option ?
[12:30] <|Iwonder|> see if there is a guarddog
[12:30] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:k
[12:30] <|Iwonder|> iplog
[12:30] <Hasrat_USA> eilker: in ubuntu?
[12:31] <|Iwonder|> or something like that
[12:31] <eilker> Hasrat_USA> yes ?
[12:31] <johey_> What's the name of the tool to make it easy to install nvidia drivers, flash, win32codecs and junk like that? If I remember correctly, there are two different tools, of which one is nice and one is ugly. I want the nice one. :)
[12:31] <Hasrat_USA> eilker: if i have physical access to the system, i would just reset it. it's easy
[12:32] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: as usual...iptables is spamming all my logs...
[12:32] <Hasrat_USA> johey_: i know what you're talking about and all of them are ugly :P
[12:32] <|Iwonder|> it say rejected ?
[12:32] <firecrotch> johey_: you're talking about Automatix2, but I would not use it
[12:32] <johey_> Hasrat_USA: I see. Then I'd better go for doing it manually.
[12:33] <firecrotch> !automatix | johey_
[12:33] <Jisao> eilker: http://linuxbasics.org/tutorials/advanced/various/forgot_root_password
[12:33] <ubotu> johey_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> !automount
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <eilker> jisao: thanx
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> !mount
[12:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> !DiskMounter
[12:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> I lost automounting....
[12:34] <johey_> Okay firecrotch. I install them manually.
[12:34] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:holy crap...now my Kad is ok!!
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> in kubuntu edgy...
[12:34] <u0735710> dfasdf
[12:34] <firecrotch> !hotplug
[12:34] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:but not the ed2k
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> yeah...I think it might be HAL but i'm not sure...
[12:35] <|Iwonder|> pmount or hald
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> |Iwonder|: say again?
[12:35] <|Iwonder|> pmount or hald or both,depends on kde version
[12:35] <|Iwonder|> docs seem to contradict
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> so should I check and see if either is runnning?
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> yep.... hal is running
[12:36] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:37] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:I added a new zone...called madmonk...in which i put the addresses of my router and my nic...
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> pmount is not running...
[12:37] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:now it works great!!!
[12:38] <|Iwonder|> you have to creat a zone for what route does?
[12:38] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:so it seems bro!
[12:38] <|Iwonder|> cool\
[12:38] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:now it's working!
[12:39] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:perfectly working! YaaaY!!!
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> ok..looks like hal calls pmount to mount the drive that hal detects....I don't think hal is detecting he drive or something
[12:40] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:thank u very much dude!!!!
[12:41] <|Iwonder|> yw
[12:47] <livingdaylight> my wireless card for Desktop died: Anyone know one that works out of the box with Ubuntu?
[12:47] <evfreshman2025> hey can someone help me out?
[12:50] <Admiral_Chicago> evfreshman2025: you can ask.
[12:50] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure if we can help, we will try
[12:50] <evfreshman2025> oh okay
[12:50] <livingdaylight>  What wireless cards for Desktop come recommended for Ubuntu: i.e. work out of the box
[12:51] <livingdaylight> no configuring or naffing
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> livingdaylight: intel
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> oh, tower ?
[12:51] <luis_> please  link en spanish
[12:51] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago : not laptop -Desktop
[12:51] <evfreshman2025> Ummm for some reason the size of my screen is HUGE, and when i try to make it smaller under "Monitor && Display" it wont let me change the size
[12:51] <luis_> link in spanish
[12:51] <luis_> .
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[12:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> luis_: eso?
[12:51] <luis_> tank
[12:51] <luis_> gracias
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> livingdaylight: hmm, not sure. my brother got a dlink recently and it works with Ubuntu, no mess
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> dunno the model though
 can you help me?
[12:52] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago: dlink, ok, that is what i wanted to hear
[12:52] <|Iwonder|> the chipset is whats important
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yup.
[12:52] <SilentM> I got a Westell, works well with my D-Link router.
[12:53] <|Iwonder|> bcm43xx works
[12:53] <evfreshman2025> okay, so how do i fix it?
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> |Iwonder|: not all the time
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: whats your video chipset?
[12:53] <evfreshman2025> im not sure, how do i find out?
[12:55] <eilker> jisao: do u have experience with it ?
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: "sudo lshw"
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> eilker: good job ;)
[12:56] <Ick> hi
[12:57] <Ick> i'm using a german keyboard
[12:57] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: no need for sudo afaik "lshw -C display" is enough
[12:57] <Ick> the numpad replaces "." with ","
[12:57] <eilker> nosrednaekim> http://linuxbasics.org/tutorials/advanced/various/forgot_root_password trying with this, but no use
[12:57] <Ick> is there a way to change it but retain the remainder of the keyboard layout?
[12:57] <Ick> there are two ways to find out a root password
[12:58] <Ick> 1. have someone who knows it tell you
 I cant find my Video Chipset
[12:58] <Ick> 2. i'm just kidding, there's only one
[12:58] <evfreshman2025> this big screen is really annoying
[12:58] <johey_> Is beryl broken in latest edgy repository?
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: it wasn't in that list?
[12:58] <|Iwonder|> evfreshman2025: lspci
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: "lspci | grep VGA"
[12:58] <eilker> johey_> it is not good
[12:58] <eilker> johey_> i downgraded
[12:58] <johey_> eilker: What is not good?
[12:59] <eilker> johey_> last beryl package in edgy repo...
[12:59] <zaza> guys, does anyone know the modified version of the firefox name? which got no cairo support?
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> bon echo?
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> or iceweasel?
[12:59] <evfreshman2025> this is what i got:
[12:59] <evfreshman2025> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[01:00] <johey_> eilker: Okay. Can I install an older version using apt, or do I have to download the files and dpkg install them?
[01:00] <DrX> any opinions on backing up an offline block device with dd, dd_rescue, bacula, or simple backup?
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: ok....I don't recognize that chipset...
[01:01] <eilker> johey_>i am not sure but i think i used  trevino's repo for it, i have problem with my system , so that i am not able to say to you the repo
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> but its an intel.... so maybe you should install "915resolutio"n
[01:01] <evfreshman2025> so you cant help me by somehow making my screen size smaller?
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> *915resolution
[01:01] <evfreshman2025> the little tab that moves it is like stuck
[01:01] <johey_> eilker: Okay. Thanks anyway!
[01:01] <|Iwonder|> evfreshman2025: just do lspci look for anythging agp or vga related
[01:02] <eilker> johey_> good luck
[01:02] <|Iwonder|> maybe lspci|less
[01:03] <evfreshman2025> compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE C
[01:03] <evfreshman2025> hipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> |Iwonder|: we already did that, look above
[01:03] <|Iwonder|> you greped VGA
[01:04] <evfreshman2025> yeah, so this kinda sorta maybe sucks
[01:04] <|Iwonder|> you will only get results for VGA
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> |Iwonder|: well, isn't that a video card right there?
[01:04] <|Iwonder|> it is possible you need agp modules to get your xorg to work properly
[01:04] <evfreshman2025> My screen size is 640x480 and i need it smaller
[01:05] <|Iwonder|> ] for instance i use apg-64 and radeon
[01:05] <evfreshman2025> and the tab that makes it Bigger or Smaller wont budge
[01:05] <|Iwonder|> or something like thyat
[01:06] <|Iwonder|> evfreshman2025:  that usually means your xorg.conf is wrong and you have only one resolution avaiable
[01:06] <evfreshman2025> So i cant change it AT ALL!?
[01:07] <|Iwonder|> try ctrl+alt+plus sign key
[01:07] <evfreshman2025> ctrl+alt+plus sign key didnt do anything at all
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: pastebin your xorg.conf
[01:08] <evfreshman2025> wait....huh!?
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf there
[01:09] <evfreshman2025> put /etc/X11/xorg.conf under pastebin?
[01:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> what is ghostscript, and do I need it on my computer?
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: read that file with a " kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the contents of that file in the pastebin
[01:11] <wolferine> need a hand with apache setup, anyone have a few mins?
[01:11] <wolferine> i want to create a www/ dir in my /usernam
[01:12] <wolferine> and host from there
[01:12] <wolferine> so do I need to edit apache.conf, or create a new .conf for that user?
[01:12] <|Iwonder|> edit
[01:12] <|Iwonder|> there is a line that allows ~user
[01:13] <wolferine> i dont want ~user, i dont think
[01:13] <|Iwonder|> then edit conf source directory to where u want
[01:13] <|Iwonder|> root directory i believe it is termed
[01:13] <wolferine> so I have to edit the apache.conf
[01:13] <|Iwonder|> yes
[01:13] <wolferine> and make the root dir my /user/www
[01:13] <wolferine> k
[01:14] <|Iwonder|> yes
[01:14] <wolferine> where is the apache files at again?
[01:14] <wolferine> and how to I start/restart services?
[01:14] <|Iwonder|> depends on distro
[01:14] <|Iwonder|> mine are in /etc/apache
[01:14] <wolferine> yeah
[01:14] <wolferine> same here
[01:14] <johey_> !sensors
[01:14] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[01:15] <wolferine> do I have to edit it as sudo ?
[01:15] <|Iwonder|> yes or apache and it shouldn't allow the latter
[01:15] <|Iwonder|> if it does fix it
[01:16] <wolferine> and services?
[01:16] <wolferine> how do I restart apache?
[01:17] <dougb> how do you change the KDE time to standard time and not military time
[01:17] <ozgur> selam millet
[01:18] <wolferine> can u use %h:%m:%s anywhere dougb ?
[01:18] <ozgur> bana yardmc olucak birini aryom ya
[01:18] <Jucato> ozgur: English please
[01:19] <Jucato> dougb: right-click on the clock -> Date & Time Format
[01:19] <ozgur> wannt you cann help me?
[01:19] <wolferine> ozgur> try /j #kbuntu-** Your area **
[01:19] <eilker> ozgur: yes
[01:19] <ozgur> thanks
[01:19] <wolferine> or /j #ubuntu-**
[01:19] <ozgur> now
[01:19] <eilker> !tr
[01:19] <rooob> what is the best channel to get help trying to build kde4 from svn? (for some reason cmake cant find my libungif libs!)
[01:19] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:20] <ozgur> m kubuntu
[01:20] <Jucato> rooob: #kde4-devel
[01:20] <eilker> ozgur: ingilizce yaz / we try to help
[01:20] <ozgur> eilker
[01:21] <ozgur> trke biliyonmu?
[01:21] <eilker> ozgur: yes
[01:21] <Tm_T> rooob: I'll help you there
[01:21] <ozgur> iyi
[01:21] <ozgur> bana yardmc olursan sevinirim
[01:21] <Jisao> sorry eilker, you were saying?
[01:21] <meme-1> Hey folks, Is there a way to save a channel list in Konversation? It's pretty slow to have to d/l each time. *OR* is there a better IRC program for Linux (ubuntu)? I don't see MIRC in Synaptic (my fav. for Windows OS).
[01:21] <eilker> ozgur: ubuntu-tr 'ye gel
[01:22] <NightBird> meme-1: mIRC is windows only, though wine runs it just fine
[01:22] <ozgur> u an ordaymda kimse yok
[01:22] <eilker> jisao: do u have experience with it ?
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> meme-1: file server list
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i run irssi myself though
[01:22] <Jisao> With what,  changing the root?
[01:23] <wolferine> how do you restart services?
[01:23] <eilker> jisao: yeah i add single init=/bin/bash to kernel line nothing happens ?
[01:23] <Jisao> I haven't used the init trick, I chrooted from a livecd.
[01:24] <meme-1> Admiral_Chicago: file server list?  I want to save the channel list so I don't have to reload it each time I start up Konversation.
[01:24] <meme-1> NightBird: I'd rather not use Wine... Native Linux is preferred. Is there a better IRC client for Linux?
[01:24] <eilker> Jisao> it is on wmware :(
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> meme-1: sec....
[01:25] <Jisao> Oh. just a sec.
[01:25] <meme-1> What IRC client are you folks using?
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> launch konversation, go to edit
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> meme-1: irssi
[01:26] <Jisao> xchat
[01:26] <wolferine> meme-1, xchat, its the best
[01:26] <eilker> meme-1> konversation
[01:26] <meme-1> thx for the suggestions... I am hoping to find something, at least, nearly as full featured as MIRC.
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> who needs a GUI anyways
[01:27] <|Iwonder|> meme-1: kvirc
[01:27] <wolferine> hmmm, I wouldnt agree with you there meme-1
[01:27] <wolferine> if your looking for another mirc, you might not be happy
[01:27] <meme-1> Admiral_Chicago: If I didn't care about a GUI, I'd still be using my old TRS-80 Model III! LOL
[01:28] <wolferine> how about a great IRC client, now thats what you need
[01:28] <eilker> Admiral_Chicago> forza non-gui , but i like 3d too :lol:
[01:28] <Jisao> eilker, the only thing I can suggest is try asking on this list. Quite a few people use vmware: http://linuxbasics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/qna
[01:28] <|Iwonder|> meme-1:  eveyone has a need and opinion,check each out for your own
[01:28] <Jisao> The resident vmware gurus are not on the channel right now :-(
[01:28] <|Iwonder|> i prefer kvirc ,it seems as near mirc as far as scripting abilitys
[01:28] <meme-1> YEP! That is what I'm going to do. :-)
[01:29] <meme-1> I am a certified VMWARE person. :-)
[01:29] <meme-1> ESX and Windows more specifically.
[01:30] <wolferine> certified?
[01:30] <|Iwonder|> i also like irssi but if i got X i feel i should use a gui
[01:30] <meme-1> wolferine: yes... VCP
[01:31] <meme-1> Everything has a title these days. lol
[01:31] <wolferine> hmm
[01:31] <wolferine> never would have thought
[01:31] <frutax> Adept is telling me that I won't be able to change any thing b/c some instance of apt is open...which of these processes should I kill in KSysGuard?: adept_notifier or apt-index-watch?
[01:31] <wolferine> ok, need some more spoon feeding with this apache install
[01:31] <meme-1> Heck... I'm now studing the Linux + course.
[01:31] <meme-1> There is also RHCP
[01:32] <digital> !beryl
[01:32] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:32] <wolferine> Fedora you mean?
[01:32] <JohnFlux> frutax: any synaptic process?
[01:32] <frutax> JohnFlux, what would they look like?
[01:32] <meme-1> I hate Beryl.... well more accurately, I hate my Intel video card which won't allow me to start Beryl!
[01:32] <JohnFlux> frutax: the process would be called synaptic
[01:32] <JohnFlux> frutax: i mean ;-)
[01:33] <JohnFlux> meme-1: wait for kde4 :-)
[01:33] <frutax> JohnFlux, ok i thought maybe it wasn't that obvious, yeah definitely no synaptic processes running
[01:34] <Kr4t05> Ok... I have a question.
[01:34] <eilker> meme-1> i810 here, and works perfect
[01:34] <JohnFlux> frutax: it would be safe enough to kill the two processes you mentioned
[01:34] <|Iwonder|> frutax: look for dpkg also
[01:34] <frutax> JohnFlux, |Iwonder|, thanks I'll check it out
[01:35] <Kr4t05> Well, nevermind...
[01:35] <wolferine> does kubuntu blcok services, if a server is not running?
[01:35] <wolferine> block*
[01:36] <JohnFlux> wolferine: what does that mean? :)
[01:36] <eilker> wolferine> what do u mean ?
[01:36] <meme-1> eilker: think that is what I have. What was your secret?
[01:36] <JohnFlux> wolferine: there's no default firewall setup
[01:36] <eilker> meme-1> from which repo did u instal it ?
[01:36] <|Iwonder|> who asked about the funny intel chipset earlier
[01:36] <|Iwonder|> "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"
[01:36] <wolferine> say I run an FTP server, apache, and and xdcc bot
[01:37] <wolferine> and I port scan, to find that 21 and 80 are open
[01:37] <wolferine> and thats it
[01:37] <wolferine> how do I open the other port?
[01:37] <Jisao> eilker, you still there?
[01:37] <eilker> jisao: yes here i am
[01:37] <JohnFlux> wolferine: what port does the xdcc bot run on?
[01:37] <wolferine> lets say 999
[01:37] <Jisao> there is somebody on #lbo who knows vmware, if you're interested.
[01:37] <frutax> ok my problem was not fixed, but the error message says that another program is using the packaging system database, and its not apt or synaptic, what could it be?
[01:38] <JohnFlux> wolferine: you don't need to open it or anything
[01:38] <JohnFlux> wolferine: it should just be there
[01:38] <wolferine> to send files, I need to open ports, same as running services
[01:38] <eilker> Jisao> i know vmware too, but my problem to get back my password without using liveCD
[01:38] <wolferine> ok, ill see if "its just there "
[01:38] <JohnFlux> wolferine: there's no firewall
[01:38] <JohnFlux> wolferine: so all ports are 'open'
[01:38] <wolferine> correct, no firewall
[01:39] <|Iwonder|> frutax:  in console type apt-get install <whatever you are installing> it should give you a command
[01:39] <wolferine> no, not all ports are open, if I do a port scan, I only find the services running (unless that means the other ports are open, just not active) ?
[01:40] <JohnFlux> wolferine: whatever wording you want :-)
[01:40] <NightBird> on kubuntu there are no active servers on a default install, so no ports should be listining...
[01:40] <frutax> |Iwonder|, it gave this error: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:40] <frutax> should i try that/
[01:40] <JohnFlux> frutax: try it
[01:40] <|Iwonder|> wolferine: the server will "open" ports
[01:40] <|Iwonder|> for instance in mirc when you set your dcc ports to 2050-2055,when started netstat -l will show them in listen
[01:40] <NightBird> frutax: oh, has adept stoped working?
[01:40] <wolferine> this isnt a default install
[01:41] <frutax> NightBird, yes
[01:41] <|Iwonder|> yes frutax
[01:41] <JohnFlux> |Iwonder|: don't put funny chars in your nick
[01:41] <NightBird> frutax: yes, that's one of the commands you need to do...
[01:41] <wolferine> u mean it will listen on ports (required by the app)
[01:41] <JohnFlux> |Iwonder|: it's hard to tab complete
[01:41] <NightBird> !adeptcrashed
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrashed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <Jisao> suit yourself, eilker. I just thought he could come with answers with your questions.
[01:41] <wolferine> while(true) { listen(80); }
[01:42] <|Iwonder|> frutax:  that happens to me a lot if adept crashes/hangs
[01:42] <NightBird> wolferine: most servers are a bit more complex than that :P
[01:42] <wolferine> obviously :)
[01:42] <eilker> Jisao> thank you so much
[01:42] <frutax> thanks guys i think im well on the way to fixing this now, it was a problem with the java installation
[01:42] <JohnFlux> wolferine: a server will open a port, yes
[01:42] <JohnFlux> wolferine: and listen on it
[01:42] <NightBird> ?adept crash
[01:43] <|Iwonder|> wolferine:  what are you trying to do?
[01:43] <NightBird> hm...
[01:43] <Compleja> !es
[01:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:43] <NightBird> frutax: these are the commands: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:43] <NightBird> !adept crash
[01:43] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:43] <NightBird> !adeptfix
[01:43] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:43] <wolferine> one more thing
[01:43] <NightBird> there it is
[01:43] <wolferine> is I do address to http://localhost/~username
[01:44] <wolferine> then what do I have to create in the users dir?
[01:44] <wolferine> a /public_html or a /.www ?
[01:44] <NightBird> probably /public_html
[01:44] <wolferine> k
[01:44] <NightBird> if apache was configured to do it that way that is
[01:44] <wolferine> oh, so its just in the .conf
[01:44] <wolferine> k, thanks
[01:45] <JohnFlux> wolferine: yeah it's in userdir.conf
[01:46] <wolferine> ok, thanks
[01:46] <dsmith_> Windows named most secure OS by Symantec
[01:46] <dsmith_> Hmmmmmmm
[01:46] <dsmith_> yea right...
[01:47] <|Iwonder|> roflmao
[01:49] <wolferine> ok, next question
[01:50] <wolferine> to get php and mysql to work together, is there an easy test?
[01:50] <wolferine> or app to look at the mysql db?
[01:54] <mervteck> can someone help me setting my frequency on my desktop its an AMD X2 4600 and its only being reported as 1000mhz, when its a 2.4
[01:57] <Alonea> someone mentioned that you can get a free version of cedega somewhere?
[01:58] <Jucato> !cedega
[01:58] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:58] <Jucato> cedega cvs
[01:59] <Alonea> Jucato: umm, where is a page that says what the cvs link is?
[02:00] <Jucato> Alonea: check that help page above. I'm not familiar with it
[02:00] <Alonea> Jucato: oh, there it is. Too bad they dont use subversion...i prefer it over CVS.
[02:08] <premjith> haaaaaaaai
[02:20] <meme-1> Hello folks, I am trying to install kvirc through Synaptic and I am getting the following error: "
[02:20] <meme-1> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kvirc/kvirc-data_3.2.4-3ubuntu1_all.deb
[02:20] <meme-1>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:21] <meme-1> Suggestions?
[02:22] <Tm_T> localhost?
[02:23] <meme-1> "Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). "
[02:23] <meme-1> not sure about that.
[02:24] <Tm_T> yes, I wonder why it tries connect to localhost
[02:24] <Tm_T> too tired to think, good night kids and remember to be nice! ->
[02:25] <meme-1> I see no settings in Synaptic that would allow that.  Good night.
[02:28] <meme-1> Strange! I am trying to "reload package information" in Synaptic and every repository is erroring out with: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[02:28] <meme-1> any thoughts?
[02:28] <meme-1> Can I buy a clue?
[02:28] <meme-1> Synaptic worked until about yesterday.
[02:28] <meme-1> No changes that I am aware of.
[02:29] <jhutchins> meme-1: Either you are having some serious DNS problems or your source configuration is messed up.
[02:29] <jhutchins> meme-1: Can you ping/browse that url?"
[02:30] <meme-1> jhutchins: Okay... something might be wrong.... FYI - you are the ONLY person communicating in this channel now. Is this correct?
[02:31] <meme-1> All I see are people leaving and reconnecting now.
[02:31] <meme-1> No other chats
[02:31] <jhutchins> Tm_T: @ 1:24 GMT but yeah.
[02:31] <jhutchins> meme-1: If you're seeing join/part messages, you know you're at least connected to the server.
[02:31] <Alonea> i am here
[02:31] <meme-1> jhutchins: okay... thought my problem was something more... I'll try pinging said site.
[02:32] <meme-1> Got quiet for a while.... :-)
[02:32] <Alonea> that it did
[02:32] <Alonea> I am trying to install cedega
[02:33] <meme-1> no trouble pinging us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <jhutchins> !easysources
[02:33] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:33] <jhutchins> meme-1: try sudo apt-get update in a console.
[02:34] <jhutchins> meme-1: You _should_ get the same error.
[02:34] <meme-1> jhutchins: same error
[02:35] <meme-1> errors
[02:35] <meme-1> the oddest part is: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:35] <jhutchins> Ok, I think you need to regenerate your source lists.  Have a look at the URL above.
[02:36] <meme-1> thx... will try that.
[02:37] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine may help as well.
[02:37] <Alonea> oh, and anyone know how I can get my fglrx to reinstall? as far as I know I have uninstalled everything, but I can't get it to install again...
[02:37] <hoth> how do I add a vpn from ubuntu to a windows firewall
[02:37] <jhutchins> meme-1: Getting it working from the command lie basically means (at least) one less thing to go wrong.
[02:38] <jhutchins> hoth: You may find kvpnrc useful.
[02:38] <Alonea> bash ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy ---this is where my install fails. I will get an output as soon as the pastebin site I use starts working again..bah
[02:38] <hoth> thanks where do I find it?
[02:38] <jhutchins> hoth: You may also be thinking of something you might do with rdesktop or tightvnc.
[02:39] <jhutchins> hoth: Should be in the apt repositories.
[02:39] <jhutchins> (all of the above)
[02:39] <hoth> I can run VNC after but need to authicate to the firewall first
[02:39] <jhutchins> hoth: Probably the first one then.
[02:40] <meme-1> Can someone please tell me where sources.list is located?
[02:40] <stdin> meme-1: /etc/apt/
[02:40] <meme-1> thank you
[02:40] <jhutchins> hoth: There's a way to set it up from the console using diald so it automatically connects, but I haven't botherd with that myself.
[02:40] <hoth> shows 0 packages listed for that name
[02:40] <jhutchins> meme-1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine may help as well.
[02:40] <jhutchins> hoth: Hmmm...
[02:41] <jhutchins> hoth: Try kvpnc
[02:41] <Alonea> ok, can someone else try http://pastebin.ca and see if it loads?
[02:41] <Alonea> or give me another pastebin that works
[02:42] <jhutchins> Alonea: pastebin.ca's notorious. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:42] <Alonea> hmm, I always preferred the ca over others...first time it hasnt worked for me.
[02:42] <jhutchins> Alonea: Dead from here as well.
[02:42] <hoth> Jhutchins  Thanks!!! found it
[02:43] <meme-1> Darn permissions! How do I save to the apt folder when I can't change the permissions on that folder.
[02:43] <stdin> you can always use http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/ :)
[02:43] <jhutchins> hoth: Sorry, dyslexics untie!
[02:43] <jhutchins> meme-1: Use sudo to do the edit/save.
[02:43] <meme-1> ah... thanks
[02:43] <jhutchins> or kdesu
[02:44] <stdin> meme-1: if you want to edit the sources.list file, press Alt-F2 and type in: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:44] <jhutchins> meme-1: You've really caught on to this whole unix thing pretty quick!
[02:44] <hoth> Jhutchins:  you be the mna
[02:44] <jhutchins> hoth: Nah, just a page or two ahead.
[02:45] <Alonea> umm, it keeps saying I am spamming...
[02:45] <meme-1> jhutchins: thx... but not quick enough... I did used to be a 11/780 operator back in the old, old days.
[02:46] <Alonea> ok, there it goes
[02:46] <Alonea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[02:46] <jhutchins> meme-1: Started out on a System 370 myself.
[02:47] <Alonea> thing is, it installed fine before, but after I messed up and adept got rid of it, I have not been able to reinstall it
[02:47] <jhutchins> Alonea: I presume if you've gotten that far you already know about the following:
[02:47] <jhutchins> !ati
[02:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:47] <hoth> jhutchins: Thanks, but when I put in a dns name I do not see a connect button do I need an IP address or are you unfamiliar and I should go on?
[02:48] <jhutchins> 'fraid I can't.
[02:48] <Alonea> jhutchins: i know, its the install I have been using
[02:48] <jhutchins> Hang on a sec...
[02:48] <Alonea> jhutchins: it was perfectly fine until adept accidentally uninstalled it all...stupid thing.
[02:48] <jhutchins> Kernel probably got updated.
[02:48] <Alonea> jhutchins: ?
[02:49] <Alonea> it got uninstalled when I got rid of the older gcc thing
[02:49] <jhutchins> hoth: My version requires that I create a profile for each site.
[02:49] <jhutchins> Alonea: Oh.  Hm, that may be part of the problem.
[02:49] <meme-1> Something is seriously wrong. Same errors.... but since my list is bigger now... I just get more errors now.
[02:49] <jhutchins> Alonea: There are a number of components required to build stuff.  Perhaps build-essentials might help?
[02:49] <Alonea> jhutchins: its SUPPOSED to use 4, but it used 3 the first time around and i didn't know it
[02:49] <hoth>  jhutchins: thanks I'll try that
[02:50] <jhutchins> meme-1: apt-get has the same problem?
[02:50] <jhutchins> meme-1: It's almost like it wants to connect to the local CD.
[02:50] <Alonea> jhutchins: I got them all, there is a command at the beginning to install anything you are missing. I redid it. Nothing works. Thing is. I got this on my 64 bit version too, except all the folders were 64 instead of i386 thing
[02:50] <jhutchins> meme-1: I don't know enough about apt to help at this point.
[02:50] <stdin> meme-1: what's the problem?
[02:51] <jhutchins> Ok, you both need someone deeper 'n me, I'm out.
[02:51] <Alonea> so I went back to 32 bit system where I know it will install correctly
[02:51] <Alonea> and now its all messed up and don't know how to fix it...
[02:51] <meme-1> jhutchins: you know more than you think! ha ha "t's almost like it wants to connect to the local CD."  I pulled the DVD (ubuntu install DVD) last night! ha ha
[02:51] <meme-1> stdin: I believe jhutchins solved the problem!
[02:52] <meme-1> I just unchecked the "download from CDROM option" in synaptic!
[02:54] <romeo_> Where can i change the colors of things listed? For exampel.. If i have several things listed.. I get 2 colors.. Grey background with white text.. and then white background with white text.. then grey and so on.. Any idea how to fix that?
[02:55] <meme-1> Nope.. that did not work. uncheck, then rechecked and placed the DVD back in... still get same error.
[02:55] <meme-1> stdin:  I am trying to "reload package information" in Synaptic and every repository is erroring out with: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[02:55] <stdin> meme-1: DNS issue
[02:55] <meme-1> stdin: everything else works (such as IRC)
[02:56] <meme-1> Also... web, FTP, and News
[02:57] <Jucato> romeo_: System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors, then from the dropdown list, select Alternate background in lists
[02:57] <stdin> meme-1: well apt seems to think that us.archive.ubuntu.com is your local host
[02:57] <meme-1> I can also ping those failing addresses.
[02:57] <romeo_> Jucato: Thanks a million
[02:58] <Jucato> romeo_: you're welcome a million times over as well :)
[02:58] <stdin> meme-1: does "sudo apt-get update" show the same errors?
[02:58] <meme-1> What is the equivalent to Window's "etc\hosts" on Linux?
[02:58] <romeo_> Jucato: Haha =)
[02:58] <Jucato>  /etc/hosts
[02:58] <stdin> meme-1: /etc/hosts where else :P
[02:59] <Jucato> meme-1: you can browse the web?
[02:59] <meme-1> stdin: let me try one moment.   ha ha same place... cool something I don't need to re-learn.
[02:59] <Jucato> hm.. why is apt looking at localhost in the first place? O.o
[02:59] <romeo_> Any other filebrowser then konqueror?
[02:59] <meme-1> Jucato: yes... everything else seems to work perfectly. Synaptic is the only app not behaving.
[03:00] <hoth> Talk about people that rush right in I missed the profile setting completly. Thanks for all the help
[03:00] <meme-1> stdin: sudo apt-get update gave same errors
[03:01] <stdin> humm
[03:01] <Alonea> does anything think the #ati people could help me with this?
[03:01] <stdin> meme-1: do you use a router, or direct connection?
[03:02] <meme-1> router... but that would affect things globally.
[03:03] <meme-1> hosts files look fine too.
[03:03] <meme-1> Is there any configuration that perhaps I am overlooking in Synaptic?
[03:04] <meme-1> Like I said earlier.... it worked find until yesterday.
[03:04] <meme-1> Darnit! All I wanted to do was install a better IRC app.
[03:04] <stdin> meme-1: you say you can ping us.archive.ubuntu.com? is it pinging 91.189.89.8 (or 91.189.88.31 or 91.189.89.8) or is it pinging 127.0.0.1?
[03:05] <meme-1> stdin: just to be sure... one moment
[03:05] <DarkED> i want to get Beryl running on Kubuntu 6.10, anyone know a good guide or a good place to start?
[03:05] <stdin> !beryl
[03:05] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:05] <meme-1> It resolves as:  (91.189.89.8)
[03:05] <meme-1> so that is working!
[03:06] <meme-1> It seems specifically relating to Synaptic!
[03:06] <romeo_> Alonea: What are you trying todo, install your ati graphic card?
[03:06] <DarkED> stdin: i know what beryl is - i need a guide to get it running on KDE
[03:06] <meme-1> Cwazy Wabbit!
[03:06] <DarkED> stdin: all the guides i have seen are for Gnome
[03:06] <Alonea> romeo_: well, it WAS installed perfectly...until adept removed the fglrx stuff and killed it.
[03:06] <stdin> DarkED: there really isn't a difference
[03:07] <DarkED> stdin: ok then, thanks
[03:07] <Jucato> DarkED: those links and that channel has pages/links that also have KDE-specific guides
[03:07] <stdin> meme-1: but apt-get is failing too, which means that it's not just synaptic
[03:07] <romeo_> Alonea: Ugh.. Why did it remove fglrx? Have you tried Envy? Worked flawlesly for me. Just used it, and it automatically downloaded everything needed and installed it automatically! Extremly recommended
[03:07] <underdog5004> anyone had trouble d'ling from the us repositories?
[03:07] <stdin> meme-1: you have adept don#t you?
[03:08] <underdog5004> I had to change all us references to ca in my sources.list
[03:08] <meme-1> stdin: forgot about apt-get
[03:08] <meme-1> stdin: adept?  If I don't know what that is... probably not. :-)
[03:08] <stdin> meme-1: it's installed by default in kubuntu
[03:09] <romeo_> How can i clear my cache? I got loads of files i downloaded (rar files for exampel etc).. andis it safe?
[03:09] <Alonea> romeo_: never heard of it. what is it? and I have no idea why it removed it. It did without telling me. I was tring to figure out why rockbox wasn't seeing the gcc, so I removed the older version, and with it, it removed flgrx (which is supposed to use 4 anyways...)
[03:09] <meme-1> stdin: where is it located?
[03:09] <stdin> meme-1: KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager
[03:09] <romeo_> !envy | Alonea
[03:09] <ubotu> Alonea: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[03:10] <romeo_> Alonea: Its some kind of software.. install it, then run it.. and it will do EVERYTHING. from installing/updating. I did it the first thing i did when i installed kubuntu. Worked like a charm.. I remember first time i tried manually. Pain in the ass
[03:11] <meme-1> stdin: nope )-:
[03:11] <meme-1> stdin: what folder location? .... I'll try to find it manually.
[03:12] <Alonea> romeo_: how do you run a .deb file? never really seen them before...
[03:12] <stdin> meme-1: the command is adept_manager (in /usr/bin/)
[03:12] <stdin> !deb | Alonea
[03:12] <ubotu> Alonea: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[03:13] <romeo_> Alonea: If you do it in the termnial. its dpkg -i debfile..
[03:13] <stdin> *sudo ^
[03:13] <romeo_> Sudo! Yeah
[03:14] <meme-1> stdin: I am afraid all that begins with ad* is addr2line
[03:14] <DaSkreech> tackat: Hello
[03:14] <stdin> meme-1: you installed kubuntu right?
[03:15] <romeo_> Can someone explain one thing for me? How come i can't turn off my pc or restart it when using linux? I have to click the power button for it to turn off.. Secondly i am wondering.. when Kubuntu is about to run it gives me a quick (less then 1 second) view of like PCI missing (4 rows if that).. Any idea what that might be?
[03:15] <meme-1> stdin: long explaination.. begin life as ubuntu... then became kubuntu after a number of educational programs were installed. Actually, I am running with Gnome now... perhaps that explains everything.
[03:15] <meme-1> stdin: sorry.
[03:16] <romeo_> Alonea: How's it going?
[03:16] <stdin> meme-1: it explains why you don't have adept, but not why resolving isn't working
[03:16] <meme-1> stdin: should have mentioned this earlier... esp. when you gave me a kde menu.
[03:16] <Alonea> romeo_: envy is doing its thing. if this works, I may kiss you.
[03:17] <stdin> meme-1: have you  tried restarting networking? bit of a long shot tho
[03:17] <romeo_> Alonea: Trust me, I was about to kiss the person that told me abou it. So easy and fast. and you just have to click once or twice.
[03:17] <meme-1> stdin: in the Windows world... one solution is rebooting.  how about that? :-)
[03:17] <stdin> meme-1: no point, restarting networking may do it
[03:18] <Alonea> romeo_: yeah. I just hope I dont get black screen and maybe this time I can actually shut down my computer normally.
[03:18] <stdin> meme-1: just do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[03:18] <romeo_> Alonea: I cant even shut down my laptop.. Kubuntu is really weird
[03:18] <meme-1> stdin: I'll try that
[03:18] <stdin> meme-1: if that doesn't work, then maybe reboot :P
[03:19] <|DKP|Shiyan> evening
[03:19] <meme-1> bye for now... be back as meme-2 I guess. :-)
[03:19] <Alonea> romeo_: its because of the flgrx. its a bug...make a button with the command 'sudo init 0' and that will shut it down
[03:20] <|DKP|Shiyan> is it not possible to run dual monitors in kubuntu?
[03:20] <meme-1> stdin: hmmm.... not as dramatic as I predicted... meaning I don't think that did anything! I see a lot of errors, "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[03:20] <stdin> meme-1: are you on a wireless network?
[03:20] <Alonea> romeo_: or just do it in the terminal of course. also, how do I know if it worked? do I do fglrxinfo like before after restarting?
[03:20] <stdin> !dualhead | |DKP|Shiyan
[03:20] <ubotu> |DKP|Shiyan: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:21] <meme-1> stdin: no... I'm wired.
[03:21] <|DKP|Shiyan> thanks
[03:21] <romeo_> Alonea: Yeah, thats what i did.. Other than that I have no idea.. The sudo init 0.. Thats for making it restart/power off?
[03:21] <stdin> meme-1: do you even have a wireless interface?
[03:21] <Alonea> romeo_: it will shutdown..forgot number for restart...
[03:21] <meme-1> stdin: no... pretty standard Intel computer. Nothing odd in this config.
[03:21] <stdin> Alonea, romeo_: 6 will restart
[03:22] <Alonea> there we go
[03:22] <romeo_> stdin: Ah thanks =)
[03:22] <Alonea> ok, will brb
[03:22] <romeo_> However, Alonea,I am not even 1 week old linux user. So i have no idea whatsoever how to make a button to shutdown
[03:22] <stdin> meme-1: seems that you have wlan defined too :P, oh well, check it apt-get is working now
[03:22] <Alonea> ok, right click on your K menu and click on edit item
[03:23] <Alonea> Goto File, new and then name it something like shutdown
[03:24] <romeo_> Alonea: Ok and now?
[03:24] <meme-1> stdin: I just gave you that very last part... didn't notice the wlan...
[03:24] <meme-1> stdin:
[03:24] <meme-1> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[03:24] <meme-1> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:24] <meme-1> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:24] <meme-1> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[03:24] <meme-1> Failed to bring up eth1.
[03:24] <meme-1> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth2.pid with pid 134993416
[03:24] <Alonea> Under Command but in what I told you. You can change the icon too, to something like the power symbol under actions I think
[03:24] <Alonea> *put
[03:24] <Tm_T> !pastebin | meme-1
[03:24] <ubotu> meme-1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:24] <romeo_> Alonea: Thanks alot
[03:24] <meme-1> Tm_T: thx
[03:24] <Omnifrog> :)
[03:25] <stdin> meme-1: how many network interfaces do you have?
[03:25] <Alonea> romeo_: no problem. it might bring up the terminal for the password, but at least it works..I used to get it to where I didn't have to but I forgot how I did it
[03:25] <meme-1> stdin: just one actually.
[03:26] <stdin> meme-1: pastebin the output of netstat (in konsole)
[03:26] <meme-1> stdin: This is basically an Intel box with no additional peripherals.
[03:26] <PStryder> Ok, trying to install java jre, and the command line window displays a EULA for sun java, and then all I can do is escape to close it, and the damned thing comes up again.  What do I do on this command line splash screen?
[03:27] <stdin> PStryder: in adept ?
[03:27] <PStryder> using apt-get to correct broken dependencies.
[03:27] <babag> when i su in konsole it asks for password. install never asked me to set one up.
[03:27] <DarkED> i'm having a problem with KDE ... it just locks up. i can still move the mouse but i cant click on anything, and the little bouncing icon stops moving and stays at the same place on the desktop even after i move my mouse
[03:27] <mal> what's the best way to diagnose a slow internet connection?
[03:28] <DarkED> it's like it is trying to process something in the background
[03:28] <stdin> PStryder: press enter to read the licence, then use tab and enter to accept it
[03:28] <Jucato> PStryder: where is this happening? wi/ adept? on what Kubuntu version?
[03:28] <babag> 'authentication failure' if i put in my user password or leave it blank.
[03:28] <DarkED> i tried Alt+F1'ing into a shell but i cant do that either
[03:28] <PStryder> Thanks stdin
[03:28] <DarkED> it's like the entire system is locked except for my mouse
[03:28] <Alonea> ok, back, now how do I exactly find out if I have 3d accel now romeo_ ?
[03:28] <Jucato> DarkED: Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[03:29] <DarkED> Jucato: ill try it
[03:29] <PStryder> I hate command line displayed guis.
[03:29] <Jucato> DarkED: when you're on X, Ctrl+Alt+F1 gets you to the shell (same as Alt+F1 if you're already on a shell)
[03:29] <PStryder> In the meantime, I'm looking for a good program to download all the images from a web site.
[03:29] <PStryder> harvestman won't accept my command line inputs
[03:29] <PStryder> any suggestions?
[03:30] <stdin> babag: use sudo, sudo -u user -i (to login as them) or just "sudo su user", it asks for a password, use YOUR password
[03:30] <babag> how do i set up a password for su?
[03:30] <babag> doh!
[03:30] <Jucato> PStryder: try kget, enable Konqueror integration, then Konqueror's Tools menu -> Download Manager -> Show all link?
[03:31] <Alonea> nope. romeo_ , I dont have 3d acceleration. gl screensavers skip.
[03:31] <Jucato> !sudo | babag
[03:31] <ubotu> babag: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:31] <DarkED> ok, that didnt work
[03:31] <DarkED> it seems my keyboard also goes dead when it happens
[03:31] <DarkED> the only thing that works is my mouse and i cant do anything with it, so ...
[03:31] <PStryder> Can I just say how much I freaking LOVE Kunbuntu!
[03:32] <romeo_> Alonea: Weird..
[03:32] <Jucato> btw PStryder, don't install Java using Adept unless you are on Kubuntu 7.10 (Feisty, which is still in beta)
[03:32] <romeo_> Alonea: fglrxinfo gives you?
[03:33] <DaSkreech> PStryder: try wget
[03:33] <Alonea> romeo_: command not found
[03:33] <babag> what this is really about is trying to install firefox
[03:33] <Alonea> babag: install firefox through repo.
[03:33] <meme-1> stdin: sorry for taking so long... results of netstat : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11597/
[03:34] <babag> tried add/remove programs but it's grayed out
[03:34] <PStryder> Jucato...I already did...that's why I had to use apt-get on the command line.
[03:34] <PStryder> It broke Adept.
[03:34] <romeo_> Alonea: Meaning you dont have fglrx.. That is indeed weird. As Envy does i think per autmatic install it
[03:34] <stdin> meme-1: should have asked before, can you post ifconfig too ?
[03:34] <Jucato> PStryder: Adept is broken as it is (at least until Feisty)
[03:35] <Alonea> romeo_: i think there were errors..lemme paste whole thing on pastebin
[03:35] <Alonea> !pastebin
[03:35] <DaSkreech> babag: press Alt+Space
[03:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:35] <DaSkreech> babag: type adept
[03:35] <DaSkreech> babag: press enter
[03:36] <yanx007> I have a little question here...
[03:36] <underdog5004> yanx007, what's up?
[03:37] <yanx007> hi underdog!
[03:37] <PStryder> does gwget work in KDE?
[03:37] <underdog5004> hi...
[03:37] <PStryder> jucato - so far I like Adept, just the one java install issue.
[03:37] <yanx007> I have a VERY weird question here...
[03:37] <babag> says 'mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb' is installed
[03:37] <underdog5004> ok
[03:37] <yanx007> How do your read/write a floppy on /etc/fstab?
[03:37] <underdog5004> PStryder, have you tried synaptic yet?
[03:37] <meme-1> stdin: appended to original paste. Thanks for the assistance
[03:37] <underdog5004> yanx007, uh...
[03:37] <Alonea> damn! it wont let me scroll up to the beginning. just a little bit. How do I get it all?
[03:37] <babag> if i type 'mozilla-firefox' in konsole it's unknown
[03:37] <yanx007> I mean mount it.
[03:37] <underdog5004> yanx007, lemme google for that one
[03:37] <Jucato> PStryder: java, flash, and vmware-player are affected. you'll love the new adept on feisty :)
[03:38] <PStryder> nope...how is synaptic?  I just need the jpegs off this site.
[03:38] <romeo_> Alonea: Try Ctrl+A?
[03:38] <yanx007> ok.
[03:38] <underdog5004> yanx007, oh, sudo mount /dev/fd0
[03:38] <underdog5004> I think
[03:38] <PStryder> Any idea on how the upgrade from edgy to fiesty is?
[03:38] <yanx007> Thanks it does the trick but not on read/write. Thanks anyway!
[03:38] <underdog5004> yanx007, hmmm, sudo mount -rw /dev/fd0
[03:38] <underdog5004> ?
[03:38] <Jucato> PStryder: don't worry. it will be practically point and click when the time comes
[03:39] <stdin> meme-1: ok, that looks fine there
[03:39] <PStryder> Sweet...how's the beta?  Worth using, or is it still nightmarish?
[03:39] <PStryder> I'm a tech, but just making the move for good off Windows and I have only one PC.
[03:39] <underdog5004> yanx007, did that work?
[03:39] <Alonea> romeo_: nope..
[03:39] <babag> my adept view also seems to only show installed soft, even though view settings set to show both installed and not
[03:39] <meme-1> stdin: exactly... pretty straightforward... but where's the bug? Perhaps I should try rebooting.
[03:39] <Jucato> PStryder: ok so far. daily updates, some things still not working properly
[03:40] <stdin> meme-1: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf and post that to pastebin, it may be something wrong in there
[03:40] <romeo_> Alonea: Then i dont know.. You got errors ?
[03:40] <yanx007> to underdog, it does the trick but not the read/write. But THanks!
[03:40] <underdog5004> damn, sorry
[03:40] <Alonea> romeo_: i though I saw some above, but I cant see them now...
[03:40] <yanx007> That'S ok. FLoppies are obsolete anyway.
[03:41] <romeo_> cant you shift + uparrow ?
[03:41] <PStryder> Damn...kget almost immediately gets interrupted.
[03:42] <meme-1> stdin: whoa! I know enough about networking to know that "nameserver 192.168.0.1" is probably not correct!
[03:42] <yanx007> Thanks underdog! How long have u been using Kubuntu?
[03:42] <meme-1> but... the addresses are still resolving though
[03:42] <stdin> meme-1: that's probably the IP of your router
[03:42] <meme-1> stdin: yes...
[03:42] <stdin> meme-1: is there anything else in there?
[03:42] <bxnp> it could be the local dns server from your router
[03:43] <meme-1> stdin: I think I jumped to conclusions... too quickly.
[03:43] <meme-1> stdin: yes: just search and the name of my provider.
[03:43] <bxnp> meme-1: wifi?
[03:43] <meme-1> bxnp: no... I'm wired in.
[03:44] <stdin> meme-1: that's probably ok then, maybe restart your router?
[03:44] <Alonea> romeo_: yeah, it looks like its having the same problem I am. when it tries to install the ati driver,it fails, thus the .debs are not made.
[03:44] <stdin> meme-1: it seems to be something with it's DNS
[03:45] <romeo_> Alonea: Are you on 32bit or 64bit?
[03:45] <meme-1> stdin: But if DNS was acting up, I should be able to browse... you know type google.com, etc. I also have 7 other computers connected and all are working fine.
[03:45] <babag> how do i tell from the command line if firefox is installed
[03:45] <Alonea> romeo_: 32 bit, because 64 doesn't work. like I said, this was installed perfectly fine until adept messed it up
[03:46] <PStryder> GRRRR
[03:46] <stdin> babag: type "which firefox"
[03:46] <babag> thx
[03:46] <stdin> babag: if you see output, then it's installed
[03:46] <Lam_> how do you save a session in firefox?
[03:46] <babag> no output
[03:46] <meme-1> stdin: (et al) if there are no other ideas at this time, I'll try a last-resort reboot.
[03:46] <stdin> meme-1: do you have "host" or "nslookup" installed?
[03:47] <babag> in add/remove programs it shows but is grayed
[03:47] <babag> can't select it
[03:47] <meme-1> stdin: how can I tell?
[03:47] <stdin> babag: make sure your sources aren't all disabled
[03:47] <DaSkreech> PStryder: Keep a Live CD around!
[03:47] <mal>  what's the best way to diagnose a slow internet connection?
[03:48] <romeo_> Alonea: Then sorry i have no idea.. Try asking in #ubuntu channel?
[03:48] <stdin> meme-1: type "which host" and "which nslookup"
[03:48] <Alonea> they haven't responded and neither have the people in #ati or ##linux
[03:48] <PStryder> Good idea Skreech
[03:49] <Alonea> romeo_: ok, can you find my post on here that had all the info and pastebin in it?
[03:49] <meme-1> stdin: Okay that is a new command, "which" - it returned, /usr/bin/host and /usr/bin/nslookup
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Alonea: what are you trying to do?
[03:49] <babag> sources are enabled but firefox still grayed
[03:49] <DaSkreech> babag: open adept
[03:50] <romeo_> Alonea: You did not post any pastebin..
[03:50] <Alonea> DaSkreech: adept messed up my fglrx...it removed parts of it. Now I cant even install it anymore.
[03:50] <babag> adept is now open
[03:50] <DaSkreech> babag: search for firefox
[03:50] <Alonea> romeo_: oh, its way up there, a longish post...
[03:50] <stdin> meme-1: good, means you have them, you can use them to query your DNS server (your router), what does "host us.archive.ubuntu.com" show?
[03:51] <PStryder> I'm gonna lose it.
[03:51] <PStryder> Time for bed.
[03:51] <babag> says 'mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb' is installed
[03:51] <PStryder> All I want to do is download a bunch of Soyarama pics, without clicking 1500 links and save the files displayed.
[03:52] <meme-1> stdin: I did that a while ago actually... everything is good! Resolves find to the proper addresses.
[03:52] <PStryder> and I can't find a piece of software that will do it.
[03:52] <meme-1> stdin: e.g. us.archive.ubuntu.com has address 91.189.88.31
[03:52] <DaSkreech> PStryder: wget
[03:52] <DaSkreech> or maybe DTA for Firefox
[03:52] <PStryder> DTA?
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Kget?
[03:52] <romeo_> Alonea: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Down them all
[03:52] <PStryder> wget, kget, harvestman all throw errors.
[03:52] <DaSkreech> it's an extension you tell it what you want to follow from a page and it grabs it
[03:53] <DaSkreech>  I got the history of Chinese music using it :)
[03:53] <DaSkreech> PStryder: are they all on one page?
[03:53] <stdin> meme-1: do you have an /etc/apt/apt.conf or a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ ?
[03:53] <Alonea> DaSkreech: yeah, I get that now when I try to install my ati driver
[03:54] <PStryder> Nah, they have links to a page displaying each pic, then click the pic, and the actuall jpg is opened.
[03:55] <PStryder> then right click, save, etc
[03:55] <meme-1> stdin:  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[03:55] <nonuda_> aha..stdin is here..
[03:55] <DaSkreech> PStryder: does it use a consistent URL?
[03:55] <PStryder> seems to.
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Or is the URL autogend
[03:55] <stdin> meme-1: does "grep -i proxy /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*" show anything ?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> PStryder: I think wget shoudl be able to get that for you
[03:55] <stdin> hey nonuda_ :)
[03:56] <meme-1> stdin: Nyet
[03:56] <PStryder> it tries, and errors.  They may have code to cause me grief
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Alonea: do you have b-e installed?/
[03:56] <PStryder> it is a php site
[03:56] <Alonea> DaSkreech: whats that?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Ah
[03:56] <DaSkreech> !b-e | Alonea
[03:56] <ubotu> Alonea: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:56] <stdin> meme-1: man that's strange
[03:57] <DaSkreech> PStryder: curl perhaps?
[03:57] <Alonea> DaSkreech: if you are asking if I have all the stuff needed to install it, then yes, I do.
[03:57] <PStryder> never heard of curl
[03:57] <meme-1> stdin: don't you just hate it when you just keep hitting brick walls?
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Apparently you do not. That's why it is complaining
[03:57] <stdin> meme-1: yeah :P, go ahead and see if a reboot fixes it for you, if not you can try changing your sources to another host, ca.archive.ubuntu.com for example
[03:58] <DaSkreech> It wants the c++ libs
[03:58] <DaSkreech> PStryder: Well go to sleep and try it tomorrow
[03:58] <Alonea> DaSkreech: I will tell you once. I do. It has done this before on another system and I couldn't fix it then. I can even find the files its looking for.
[03:58] <PStryder> I think I have too...work beacons
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Where it is looking for them?
[03:59] <meme-1> stdin: giving up huh? No serious I understand the frustration. I am not used to being on the side that needs help... interesting experience. At least I'm not cursing you or otherwise... :-)
[04:00] <stdin> meme-1: changing the sources is a "hackish" fox that _may_ work, but I just can't find the problem
[04:00] <meme-1> Actually, let me try that first... then I'll reboot.
[04:02] <Alonea> DaSkreech: /usr/i486-linux-gnu/lib/  . They are actually in /usr/lib . Make sym links doesn't fix it either...like I said, I had this installed perfectly fine before until I uninstalled an older gcc to try to fix another problem I have. It uninstalled my flgrx stuff when I did that...
[04:02] <DarkED> so nobody has ever had KDE lock up on them like i have?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Ohhhh. Hmm
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Alonea:have you checked in #ubuntu-effects ?
[04:02] <nixternal> anyone running VirtualBox?
[04:03] <Alonea> DaSkreech: no, I can try though
[04:03] <DisabledDuck> how do i get the w32 plugins?
[04:04] <Jucato> !w32codecs | DisabledDuck
[04:04] <ubotu> DisabledDuck: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:06] <DaSkreech> babag: getting anywhere?
[04:07] <babag> starting to get the hang of adept
[04:07] <nonuda_> stdin, i think i found a driver for my ati rage, but i'm confused to choose, can u take a look at this http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php and in download area which file should i download..
[04:07] <DaSkreech> babag: ok :)
[04:07] <babag> adept claims firefox is installing
[04:07] <babag> we'll see
[04:08] <babag> hey! whadya know!
[04:09] <babag> ok. now the mouse problem
[04:09] <babag> ;)
[04:10] <daifunai> YO! I'm wondering how to install a theme downloaded from a .hack fansite that claims it's initially for kde
[04:10] <stdin> nonuda_: seems that it was merged in to xorg 7.0, so you should already have it
[04:10] <daifunai> T_T how do i install it?
[04:10] <DaSkreech> babag: PLug it out
[04:10] <DaSkreech>  Problem done :)
[04:10] <stdin> !changethemes | daifunai
[04:10] <ubotu> daifunai: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:11] <nonuda_> oh ok..
[04:12] <daifunai> ...i'm using KUBUNTU, not UBUNTU
[04:12] <daifunai> O.o;
[04:12] <DisabledDuck> !Codec
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <daifunai> the file seems to be a .theme
[04:12] <stdin> daifunai: don't you nee that link at the end of the message ?
[04:12] <DisabledDuck> !Codecs
[04:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:12] <daifunai> i prefer one on one assistance. forums don't help a soul
[04:12] <daifunai> :P
[04:12] <Jucato> daifunai: did you read that whole sentence above?
[04:13] <Jucato> daifunai: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:13] <babag> DaSkreech: thx (everyone else too)
[04:13] <DaSkreech> babag: Kool
[04:14] <DisabledDuck> if i do the fiest upgrade... what are the chances that i mess up my machine and have to re-install?
[04:14] <babag> now to figure out how to get a serial mouse working
[04:14] <stdin> babag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Pour milk on it
[04:14] <daifunai> ok, one other thing
[04:15] <babag> wow! thx.
[04:15] <meme-1> I'm back! :-)
[04:16] <stdin> meme-1: how'd it go?
[04:16] <meme-1> stdin: just finished. It works fine now!
[04:17] <tuxligo> the discrimination of debian for ubunut is veri big!
[04:17] <stdin> god know's why it wasn't working :P
[04:17] <meme-1> stdin: I was just thinking an OS is an OS these days. Different look, same sh*t
[04:18] <meme-1> stdin: same solutions (like reboot) still apply. lol
[04:18] <stdin> meme-1: I hardy ever reboot
[04:18] <stdin> meme-1: tho I probably need to soon
[04:19] <stdin> meme-1: I'm running kernel 2.6.20-9 and have 2.6.20-12 installed
[04:19] <meme-1> stdin: well, that was the same when I was managing Novell servers... start'em up and forget about them.
[04:20] <meme-1> stdin: Seriously, I rarely reboot my XP computer as well. The days of poking fun at Microsoft's unstable OS's is pretty much over.
[04:21] <DisabledDuck> meme-1: i love a good joke...
[04:21] <chance> !Codecs
[04:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:21] <meme-1> stdin: How do I determine which kernal I am running?
[04:21] <stdin> meme-1: uname -r
[04:21] <rooob> meme-1: uname -a
[04:21] <stdin> you only need -r
[04:22] <meme-1> Linux sconnell-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:23] <meme-1> little bit behind
[04:23] <stdin> meme-1: not really, I'm on feisty
[04:23] <meme-1> I see!
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Ok quick question
[04:23] <DaSkreech>  does anyone have an issue with going to websites till after you have pinged them?
[04:24] <stdin> nope
[04:24] <nonuda_> stdin, to run beryl i must enable 3d acceleretion right?
[04:24] <DaSkreech> ok quick question two anyone here from the caribbean?
[04:24] <DisabledDuck> !Multiverse
[04:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:25] <stdin> nonuda_: I think so, but you may be able to use xgl without it
[04:25] <stdin> nonuda_: bast place to ask is #ubuntu-effects
[04:25] <daifunai> sorry, it was WHAT program?
[04:26] <daifunai> and you're absolutely POSITIVE that it cooperates with .theme files
[04:26] <linuxbomb> how can i get a service to start on boot like mysql
[04:26] <stdin> daifunai: a .theme is just an archive, like a .zip
[04:27] <daifunai> it's just showing it as an ordinary file
[04:27] <daifunai> like
[04:27] <daifunai> a binary file
[04:27] <daifunai> or something
[04:27] <stdin> linuxbomb: when you install it, it sets up the scripts
[04:27] <Jucato> aaah! now I remember
[04:27] <nonuda_> aha..ok, btw i have read about xgl but it said that i must have video card drivers with 3D acceleration installed
[04:27] <daifunai>  It is useable, but no instructions or in-depth information exists on this yet. Still tentatively under construction, and designed for KDE initially, so don't blame me if it malfunctions under the original IceWM.
[04:27] <linuxbomb> stdin: I know but mysql doesn't start
[04:28] <daifunai> THAT's what it says
[04:28] <Jucato> daifunai: .theme files were used KDE 2 I believe... I don't think they can be used for KDE 3 anymore
[04:28] <stdin> linuxbomb: do you have /etc/init.d/mysql ?
[04:28] <linuxbomb> yes
[04:28] <meme-1> I have the same prob. (re: 3D acceleration installed) can't enable on my Intel video card.... therefore Beryl refuses to run.
[04:28] <daifunai> CRAP! >_<
[04:28] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[04:29] <Jucato> daifunai: not really sure though. you can ask for confirmation about .theme files in #kde
[04:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:29] <linuxbomb> I cat start it with /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:29] <linuxbomb> can
[04:29] <stdin> linuxbomb: do you have /etc/rc2.d/S19mysql ?
[04:29] <linuxbomb> nope
[04:30] <linuxbomb> I have a k20mysql
[04:31] <stdin> linuxbomb: in /etc/rc2.d ?
[04:31] <linuxbomb> yes
[04:31] <stdin> that means that it stops in runlevel 2
[04:31] <stdin> huh
[04:31] <jhutchins> runlevels are meaningless in kubuntu.
[04:32] <stdin> nope
[04:32] <linuxbomb> So change it to a S
[04:32] <jhutchins> you can build a runlevel based system, but by default they mean nothing.
[04:32] <linuxbomb> update-rc.d mysql defaults didn't do anything
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Anyone have an issue connecting to sites till after you have pinged it?
[04:33] <stdin> linuxbomb: just do "sudo rm /etc/rc?.d/*apache*" then do "sudo update-rc.d mysql-ndb-mgm defaults 19 21" "sudo update-rc.d mysql defaults 19 21" and "sudo update-rc.d mysql-ndb defaults 20"
[04:33] <jhutchins> Too darned bad chkconfig is also meaningless.
[04:33] <stdin> jhutchins: do init 0 and tell me that :P
[04:33] <linuxbomb> what
[04:34] <jhutchins> stdin: Do lilo -R 3;shutdown -r now and tell me it does something.
[04:34] <stdin> linuxbomb: change runlevel to 0, you'll see that kubuntu uses them
[04:34] <utnubuk> is there an easy way to make sure that a set of files are always the latest: I write on both my desktop and laptop and would like an automated way to make sure the latest version is on both machines
[04:34] <stdin> jhutchins: I use grub
[04:35] <jhutchins> stdin: No, seriously, do NOT represent ubuntu as a system that honors rulevls.  It's just plain dishonest to do so.
[04:35] <linuxbomb> stdin I just want mysql to start not remove apache
[04:35] <jhutchins> stdin: Provide an equivalent command for grub then.
[04:35] <stdin> linuxbomb: yeah, my bad :S,  just run those commands (replace apache with mysql), it will reset the links to the default
[04:37] <stdin> jhutchins: so if you put a link to an init script in rc2.d and have the script say "shutdown -r now" your system won't reboot?
[04:38] <jhutchins> stdin: It is an elegant and usefull system that ubuntu/debian has elected to give only superficial and worthless support to.  When they come up with something with equivalent functionality, google will give you the number to call me at.
[04:39] <jhutchins> Debian/Ubunto go different ways.
[04:39] <jhutchins> We wait to see if they can come up with anything as useful.
[04:40] <stdin> upstart
[04:40] <jhutchins> Irrelevant.
[04:40] <jhutchins> Good, but irrelevant.
[04:40] <pollyo> Anyone here using gaim?
[04:42] <jhutchins> Being a really old-time SysV user, I find runlevelss highly compelling.  I undrestand that there are people who never disovered how useful they are, and that they may be somewhat archaic, but I nevertheless find them usefull on an almost daily basis.
[04:42] <jhutchins> pollyo: kopete.
[04:43] <K`zan> Where does one find the initrd.img for a kernel one just built, apparently ubuntu uses that?!?
[04:43] <mshade> anyone here using kontact / kmail?
[04:43] <jhutchins> K`zan: /boot?
[04:43] <jhutchins> mshade: Yes.
[04:45] <mshade> jhutchins: I'd like to have it display html message as html when applicable.  i've got what seem to be the relevant settings enabled, yet it still defaults to showign it as plain text and i must select the html body from below, and then click the red link in the box to show it as html
[04:45] <K`zan> jhutchins: doesn't look like the kernel compile puts either bzImage or the initrd.img anyway, I had to copy bzImage to boot, but no idea where the initrd.img would be found in the source tree?!?
[04:45] <Jucato> mshade: Folder menu -> Prefer HTML to Plain text?
[04:45] <jhutchins> mshade: k, that's pretty simple, let me go walk throug it.
[04:46] <mshade> Jucato: that's enabled
[04:46] <hackdaddy_> using apache2, i'm writing some perl cgi scripts but i'm unable to display images
[04:46] <Jucato> hm...
[04:46] <hackdaddy_> i want to to display images from a directory under my home directory somewhere
[04:47] <mshade> Jucato: Ok, it seems to be workign now.. had to restart kontact
[04:47] <jhutchins> mshade: Ok, I find on my setup it's Settings, Configure KMail, Security, Prefer HTML.
[04:47] <mshade> jhutchins: i had that enabled too, but I had to restart kontact before it seemed to take effect :) thank you for looking into that
[04:48] <intelikey> html in emails... yuch.
[04:48] <mshade> hackdaddy_: you could use a symlink...
[04:48] <mshade> intelikey: i understand the 'yuch' i prefer plain text myself :) that's how I write 'em.
[04:49] <mshade> intelikey: but others correspond to me frequently with html formatting, and odd characters often show up as squares or question marks -- so I enable html
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Man #ubuntu is bustly
[04:49] <hackdaddy_> thanks mshade
[04:49] <jhutchins> intelikey: Yeah, I've basically beaten the local LUG into a pulp over it, but that's what it took.
[04:49] <intelikey> DaSkreech yes
[04:49] <DaSkreech> two people have the same problem as I do there
[04:49] <mshade> hackdaddy_: if that doesn't work, you may need to enable a directive in your httpd.conf -- FollowSymlinks
[04:50] <DaSkreech> I've seen it on like 6 computers
[04:50] <DaSkreech> they both went quiet though
[04:50] <mshade> DaSkreech: what's the issue?
[04:50] <DaSkreech> I can't browse or resolve urls until I have pinged tehm
[04:50] <DaSkreech> them
[04:51] <mshade> now that's an odd one
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[04:51] <mshade> what's in your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:51] <intelikey> resolv.conf ?
[04:51] <intelikey> yes what mshade said.
[04:51] <DaSkreech> You can resolve stuff
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Just not in the GUI
[04:51] <mshade> hmmm
[04:51] <DaSkreech> on the CLI it works fine
[04:51] <DaSkreech>  w3m
[04:51] <mshade> disable IPv6
[04:51] <DaSkreech> apt-get
[04:51] <DaSkreech> mshade: !
[04:52] <DaSkreech> possibly
[04:52] <mshade> try disabling IPv6 for X :)
[04:52] <DaSkreech>  /proc something?
[04:52] <mshade> i'm hazy on where it had to be done.  i had that issue in slackware
[04:52] <mshade> i think on slack i had to actually edit the startx script
[04:53] <mshade> since you're booting graphical, it will be different
[04:53] <intelikey> hmmm i always disable ipv6 by default....   edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases   line 10
[04:53] <mshade> w00t to intelikey :)
[04:53] <intelikey> change from ipv6 to off
[04:53] <jeanmass> hello
[04:54] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Line 10? :-)
[04:54] <jeanmass> is the channel #kubuntu the same on irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net ?
[04:54] <intelikey> DaSkreech you'll see
[04:54] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: yes
[04:54] <DaSkreech> intelikey: line 17 entry 10
[04:54] <jeanmass> thx DaSkreech
[04:54] <intelikey> alias net-pf-10 off
[04:55] <intelikey> it the tenth line that is used... don't count comments...
[04:55] <jeanmass> hey guys, my first user crashed, i created a second user. Now i need to recover my data from the home of the first user
[04:55] <jeanmass> but it is locked
[04:55] <DaSkreech> yeah but vi /etc/modprobe.d +10 doesn't work that well
[04:55] <intelikey> DaSkreech heh  ok.
[04:55] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: sudo it
[04:56] <mshade> jeanmass: easiest will probably be to chown it to your new user
[04:56] <intelikey> i'm not a vi'er my self.
[04:56] <stdin> jeanmass: use something like this to unlock it (from konsole): sudo chmod o+rx /home/olduser
[04:56] <DaSkreech> intelikey: emacs?
[04:56] <intelikey> mc
[04:56] <intelikey> mc -e
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Suppose I actually use ipv6 ?
[04:56] <mshade> DaSkreech: then you wouldn't be having this problem ;)
[04:56] <intelikey> then don't disable it   lol
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[04:56] <jeanmass> the idea would be to copy my data from /home/user1 to /home/user2
[04:57] <DaSkreech>  ok we should be moving to ipv6 next year
[04:57] <jeanmass> and then to set user2 as the owner of this data
[04:57] <DaSkreech> lets see if it goes away then
[04:57] <stdin> jeanmass: you may want to make it recursive too: sudo chmod -R o+rx /home/user1, then you can use konqueror to copy what you want
[04:57] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: what do you mean your first user crashed?
[04:57] <jeanmass> kde do no work with 1st user
[04:57] <daifunai> someone here is familiar with gtk-gnutella
[04:57] <daifunai> i just know it
[04:58] <daifunai> anyone know why it's not working?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: Ahh and rather than fix it you just want to move to a new user?
[04:58] <intelikey> stdin why not -A ?   it will need a chwon anyway
[04:58] <jeanmass> yes DaSkreech
[04:58] <stdin> intelikey: when the user copies it, they should become the owner
[04:59] <intelikey> but that user is root in your example
[04:59] <BluesKaj> amule is the fav it seems
[04:59] <intelikey> stdin or did i miss something ?
[04:59] <jeanmass> stdin: what does sudo chmod -R o+rx /home/user1 do?
[04:59] <mshade> intelikey: do the chown as root, then copy it as a user to the new home -- it'll take ownership of the user
[05:00] <mshade> jeanmass: changes permissions on your old home to be readable to your new user
[05:00] <stdin> intelikey: nope, root is only used to give others read and execute (tho chown is probably better)
[05:01] <stdin> jeanmass: you can try just resetting kde in the 1st users account, just delete /home/user1/.kde/
[05:01] <jeanmass> done stdin
[05:01] <intelikey> mshade yeah that will work.   there are plural avanews to removal of the felion epedurmus
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[05:01] <mshade> lol
[05:02] <jeanmass> stdin: rm -R /home/user1/.kde/ ?
[05:02] <Alonea> so far, still no luck...
[05:02] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: nope
[05:02] <mshade> jeanmass: you better just move it instead of remove it
[05:02] <mshade> so you don't lose anythign you didn't want to ;)
[05:02] <DaSkreech> mv /home/user1/.kde /home/user1/.kde_bkup
[05:02] <mshade> bingo
[05:02] <nonuda_> stdin, what is the good application for programmer? i need something like VB
[05:03] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: that way you can restore your settings
[05:03] <Alonea> nonuda_: I like Eclipse
[05:03] <silverravage> help?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> instead of setting everything back up manually
[05:03] <jeanmass> i think i'll use user2 from now on anyway
[05:03] <stdin> nonuda_: I just use KDevelop, tho I don't code too much (still learning)
[05:03] <DaSkreech> and you can keep your amarok library :-)
[05:03] <stdin> !ask | silverravage
[05:03] <jeanmass> i have entered sudo chmod -R o+rx /home/user1
[05:03] <ubotu> silverravage: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:03] <nonuda_> is it have GUI?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> !ask | silverravage
[05:03] <K`zan> jhutchins:  Answer turned out to be: update-initramfs -k 2.6.whatever -c
[05:04] <jeanmass> now, if i move my data to /home/user2
[05:04] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: copy away then
[05:04] <silverravage> Beryl is crashing, when ever i try to run it the screen goes black then kicks me out to the login help?
[05:04] <jeanmass> will user2 be considered as the owner?
[05:04] <intelikey> DaSkreech be advised that simple mv .kde_bkup .kde after a kde login will not restore settings.   kde's save session on logout is involved there.
[05:05] <stdin> jeanmass: when you (as user2) copy the files then user2 will become the owner
[05:05] <silverravage> DaSkreech?
[05:06] <intelikey> DaSkreech i'm sure you knew that.  but that's why i always advise tar rather than mv for a backup of .kde/
[05:06] <jeanmass> ok perfect
[05:06] <jeanmass> user1 has a lot of crap in his home
[05:07] <jeanmass> to much config folders of old programs that i dont use anymore
[05:08] <Alonea> nonuda_: yeah, eclipse is GUI and does multiple languages.
[05:08] <stdin> jeanmass: if you have user2 setup the way you want, you can just copy /home/user2/.kde/config and /home/user2/.kde/share to the /home/user1/.kde dir (then sudo chown -R user1:user1 /home/user1/.kde), that should make kde use the settings from user2
[05:08] <DaSkreech> intelikey: oh no I know that. but I normally just keep it there and as I open applications and go .o0(Crap. I have to set this back up again!!!) I just copy over the folder and I'm happy :)
[05:08] <DaSkreech> unless of course it's the app that made KDe go nuts
[05:09] <intelikey> heh yeah unless  :)
[05:09] <Alonea> nonuda_: should be in repo, though if it has problems will have to compile from source. It might be a bit confusing at first in the compiling and running stages, but you get used to it pretty quick
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Which in my expericne is normally amarok
[05:09] <Alonea> nonuda_: what kinda stuff are you programming?
[05:09] <jeanmass> stdin: it's allright i am starting to move my data from /home/user1 to /home/user2
[05:09] <jeanmass> and then i'll just delete user1
[05:10] <utnubuk> an assignment i was working on for school became corrupted or something and now all i see is a bunch of # signs in the docs....  if i try to open the file it asks me about ASCII filter options
[05:10] <utnubuk> any ideas?  i might be really screwed ......
[05:10] <stdin> amarok has always been great for me
[05:10] <jeanmass> i am so happy to have kubuntu working again
[05:11] <jeanmass> i ve been on win for 2 weeks now
[05:11] <intelikey> stdin then i don't guess i have missed anything by not liking it... :)
[05:11] <nonuda_> Alonea: yes i see it in adept manager,databases & networking, i used VB and ms access
[05:12] <jeanmass> what is better for the net: konqueror or firefox?
[05:12] <intelikey> links2
[05:12] <intelikey> :)
[05:12] <Alonea> nonuda_: okies. hmm. I use eclipse for programming my java programs.
[05:12] <kari21> salut tout le monde
[05:13] <Alonea> kari21: language?
[05:13] <utnubuk> this is weird as hell - I zipped my paper into a tar archive (which is 20 kb) and the extracted product is half that.....
[05:13] <utnubuk> what is going on here?
[05:14] <intelikey> utnubuk you zipped it ?    gzip or bzip2 ?
[05:14] <Alonea> dunno dear
[05:14] <utnubuk> intelikey: i just did tar -cvvf
[05:14] <intelikey> tar is not compressed.
[05:14] <utnubuk> hmm
[05:15] <nonuda_> i'm planning to migrate all of my office pc from Xp to Linux, but the main problem is me, coz i already get to used with windows
[05:15] <intelikey> need  j  or  z    to compress it bzip2 or gzip  respectively
[05:15] <utnubuk> intelikey: either way I cant get the file back to its original version
[05:15] <kari21> ques qu'il a mon language
[05:15] <nonuda_> stdin 11 years in linux, me 11 years in windows
[05:15] <intelikey> utnubuk how are you trying ?
[05:15] <utnubuk> right click -> extract here and tar -xvvf
[05:16] <utnubuk> both ways dont work
[05:16] <intelikey> well the tar command should work.
[05:16] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: Whichever you like
[05:17] <DaSkreech> !fr | kari21
[05:17] <intelikey> tar x filename
[05:17] <ubotu> kari21: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:17] <utnubuk> the tar file is 20 kb, the extracted file is 10 kb and definitly not the original file
[05:17] <utnubuk> ok
[05:17] <kari21> thank you verry much
[05:17] <stdin> nonuda_: I just hated windows from the start :P
[05:18] <DaSkreech> kari21: Merci!
[05:18] <nonuda_> lol
[05:18] <DaSkreech> stdin: I liked it!! Then I used it :(
[05:19] <utnubuk> intelikey: when i do that the console just hangs, nothing happens...
[05:19] <intelikey> utnubuk i hope not but the .ext 'might' be causing trubble.  what's the name ?
[05:19] <stdin> 9x wasn't too bad, but it just got worse and worse
[05:19] <jeanmass> DaSkreech: konqueror de not work well on gmail
[05:19] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: Did you change the user agent?
[05:19] <jeanmass> and there is not a "clear private data"
[05:20] <utnubuk> the file i want is .odt, the file causing probs is .tar
[05:20] <jeanmass> and konqueror do not work well with a few pages
[05:20] <jeanmass> i should change it for gmail?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: yes
[05:20] <jeanmass> to what?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> tools -> change browser -> other -> firefox
[05:20] <stdin> firefox
[05:21] <unix_infidel> anyone downloaded and tried the beta distupgrade yet?
[05:21] <nonuda_> time to go..bye guys
[05:21] <intelikey> utnubuk and if you use ark filename.tar   it does what ?
[05:21] <jeanmass> and how can i delete private data?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> I don't know if there is one button to do that
[05:22] <jeanmass> i have also the impression that konqueror do not remember passwords well
[05:22] <DaSkreech> You can delete cookies and passwords
[05:22] <utnubuk> brings up ark, same thing (it shows the file as 10 kb big)
[05:22] <DaSkreech>  two buttons
[05:22] <unix_infidel> you can setup a keybind to do it on .3
[05:22] <utnubuk> intelikey: would it help if i just sent you the file? i need to get this thing done for tomorrow :/
[05:22] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Hmmm?
[05:23] <utnubuk> if its lost its lost, but i had 2 pages
[05:23] <unix_infidel> control+shift+delete (assuming you've set it not to prompt you)
[05:23] <intelikey> jeanmass you can delete anything in your home if you own $HOME and it set rwx*
[05:23] <intelikey> utnubuk if you can send it send it.
[05:23] <unix_infidel> goes ahead and takes care of all the privacy options.
[05:23] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: that's for jeanmass?
[05:23] <unix_infidel> whoweve wanted to know how to take care of privacy stuff.
[05:24] <unix_infidel> its a simple way to get rid of cookies, saved password, etc.
[05:24] <Alonea> any more ideas people on how I can get this installed?
[05:24] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Is that in settings -> Shortcuts ?
[05:24] <intelikey> utnubuk try again.
[05:25] <intelikey> -:- DCC Unable to create connection: Connection refused
[05:25] <intelikey> you firewalled ?
[05:25] <jeanmass> ctrl+shift+del in konqueror
[05:25] <utnubuk> ... yeah let me fix that quick
[05:25] <jeanmass> i'll try that
[05:25] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: where is this documented? o.0
[05:26] <jeanmass> does not seem to do anythin
[05:28] <jeanmass> why is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 by default (Mac) by default for google and gmail?
[05:28] <jeanmass> why is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 (Mac) by default by default for google and gmail?
[05:29] <jeanmass> why is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 (Mac) by default for google and gmail?
[05:29] <jeanmass> the 3rd one is correct
[05:29] <utnubuk> intelikey: i cant even ping my router, this is wierd....  i'll just have to retype the whole thing thanks for trying to help anyway
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Feisty?
[05:30] <jeanmass> edgy
[05:31] <intelikey> utnubuk if the problem was caused by a typo or something you can look in the shell history and see what happened... might shed some light and help understand how to prevent reoccurances.    less ~/.bash_history
[05:32] <jeanmass> why is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 (Mac) by default for google and gmail?
[05:33] <|Iwonder|> jeanmass: huh?
[05:34] <jeanmass> yes
[05:34] <jeanmass> i am in a clean new user
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat
[05:34] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:34] <|Iwonder|> my guess would the person/persons who built it had theirs set that way
[05:35] <intelikey> jeanmass didn't you do   cp /home/user1 /home/user2  ?    how can you call that clean ?
[05:35] <silverravage> shadowline ??
[05:35] <jeanmass> no i did not intelikey
[05:35] <|Iwonder|> jeanmass:  google building a livecd
[05:35] <jeanmass> i copy home/user1/data
[05:35] <intelikey> ok saw it talked about...  thought you said you did.
[05:36] <jeanmass> mmm
[05:36] <jeanmass> anyway
[05:36] <|Iwonder|> it mat shed light on how kubuntu was put together
[05:36] <jeanmass> on a clean user
[05:36] <|Iwonder|> if it bothers you change it
[05:36] <jeanmass> i opoen konqueror > tools > change browser id > configure
[05:36] <silverravage> hey iam trying to install the nvidia drivers and iam following wiki on the beryl site for edgy, i get to where i need to shut down X.org
[05:36] <jeanmass> and by default there ir
[05:37] <silverravage> and i type in sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:37] <intelikey> jeanmass anyway.  mainly cause browser  konqueror is not supported and neither is os linux   by most sites.
[05:37] <jeanmass> Mozilla/5.0 (Mac)  for google and gmail
[05:37] <silverravage> but it just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor and i cant type any commands in
[05:37] <jeanmass> but mozilla/5.0 neither
[05:37] <inteliwasp> is it posible to make the eject button on my cd drive auto-unmount the cd and eject?
[05:37] <jeanmass> they could have put firefox
[05:37] <silverravage> i mean i can type but if i type sudo sh ./NVIDIA* it doesnt do anything
[05:38] <|Iwonder|> jeanmass: ,konqueror comes as a source,someone had to compile it and place it on the cd you used to load your system,that person had theirs set that way
[05:38] <hsystem-x> silverravage
[05:38] <silverravage> ?
[05:38] <jeanmass> ok
[05:38] <hsystem-x> on the beryl site, there's a comment nexto to the instructions that tells you what to do when screen goes black. Thats normal
[05:38] <hsystem-x> you have to run gdm again.
[05:39] <silverravage> gdm start?
[05:39] <hsystem-x> no.
[05:39] <hsystem-x> well let me search wait a minute .
[05:39] <|Iwonder|> jeanmass:  try to install a linux from all sources,you will appreciate the time they took to put this together
[05:39] <silverravage> ok..
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> gdm
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> is the start up command
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> for gdm
[05:40] <Jucato> gdm <- gnome display manager. won't be present on Kubuntu/KDE
[05:40] <jeanmass> i am discovering linux mate
[05:40] <jeanmass> =)
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> good point
[05:40] <utnubuk> intelikey: tar -cvvf paper3.tar 3rd\ Long.odt makes sense, right??
[05:40] <HGXiphias> kdm however will be
[05:40] <hsystem-x> ah ok
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> try kdm
[05:40] <hsystem-x> is kdm
[05:40] <hsystem-x> sorry
[05:41] <hsystem-x> i was thinking on gnome
[05:41] <silverravage> the wiki tells me to do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then thats when the screen goes black and a blinking cursor comes up, then i type in sudo sh ./NVIDIA* and nothing happens
[05:41] <hsystem-x> which version of kubuntu you have?
[05:41] <SilentDis> greetings and salutations :)
[05:41] <hsystem-x> 6.06? 6.10?
[05:41] <|Iwonder|> silverravage: type sudo killall kdm then kdm
[05:41] <intelikey> utnubuk yeah.  to create it it does.
[05:42] <silverravage> hsystem-x i think 6.10 iam running Ubuntu Ultimate Edition1.3
[05:42] <intelikey> utnubuk assuming that   3rd\ Long.odt was a file in the pwd.
[05:42] <intelikey> or a dir...
[05:42] <HGXiphias> Ultimate edition? :S
[05:42] <Alonea> anyone can think of another IRC channel that might be able to help me?
[05:42] <SilentDis> Alonea: what problem are you having?
[05:42] <silverravage> wonder? should i try that sudo killall kdm
[05:43] <HGXiphias> Are you using Kubuntu, or Ubuntu?
[05:43] <Jucato> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:43] <silverravage> i mean i am running gnome
[05:43] <Jucato> hm.. #ubuntu then?
[05:43] <HGXiphias> Yarr
[05:43] <|Iwonder|> if you need to kill your display manager/X
[05:43] <HGXiphias> Yes
[05:43] <hsystem-x>  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:43] <hsystem-x> that's the command
[05:43] <utnubuk> intelikey: oh well, this is going to be a long night :) have a good one man
[05:44] <|Iwonder|> either killall kdm or /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:44] <SilentDis> silverravage: i'd recommend checking into #ubuntu to be sure of things if you're running GDM/Gnome rather than KDM/KDE
[05:44] <hsystem-x> Silver do a:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:44] <hsystem-x> that's what the page tells...
[05:44] <hsystem-x> when the screen goes black.
[05:44] <intelikey> utnubuk u 2
[05:44] <Alonea> SilentDis: adept was mean, it uninstalled my fglrx when I removed another package. Fglrx wasnt even supposed to use the older version...anyway, now I can't install it anymore. I get this when I try to install the ati driver http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/ ...and i KNOW all the needed depend. are there.
[05:45] <hsystem-x> if you are using ubuntu is gdm, if it is kubuntu is kdm.
[05:45] <hsystem-x> you*
[05:46] <SilentDis> Alonea: you're installing the ati binary blob right?
[05:46] <Alonea> SilentDis: yup...again.
[05:47] <SilentDis> Alonea: i'm personally running nvidia and had MANY problems myself.  !envy solved all my issues, and from other's i've recommended it to, they all say it works just fine for ati too.  have you tried envy yet?
[05:47] <hsystem-x> .
[05:47] <jeanmass> can i remove --purge with adept?
[05:47] <Alonea> SilentDis: it gets exact same error messages in that pastebin that I do
[05:48] <SilentDis> Alonea: with envy?  wow.
[05:48] <Alonea> SilentDis: yuuuup
[05:48] <jeanmass> i entered sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox
[05:48] <jeanmass> but there is still .mozilla/firefox in my home
[05:48] <SilentDis> Alonea: try this before installing, just to make sure everything is up to snuff:  sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude install build-essential
[05:49] <intelikey> jeanmass    dpkg -l | grep firefox
[05:49] <SilentDis> Alonea: that'll update your package list, upgrade anything outstanding, and reinstall build-essential for you
[05:49] <intelikey> oh nm.
[05:49] <jeanmass> intelikey: what is that for?
[05:49] <intelikey> jeanmass package managers do NOT touch your home dir
[05:49] <jeanmass> how do they remove config files?
[05:49] <Alonea> SilentDis: 0 installed, upgraded, etc.
[05:50] <SilentDis> Alonea: that's good.  did it succeed in reinstalling build-essential?
[05:50] <Alonea> SilentDis: yup...and ati still no install...
[05:50] <jeanmass> how to remove the config folders in home then?
[05:50] <intelikey> jeanmass if you are refering to personalization "config files" they dont.
[05:50] <SilentDis> Alonea: darn.  I do apologize, but just to be sure, that is the latest ati binary blob right?
[05:51] <jeanmass> ok
[05:51] <intelikey> jeanmass rm -r .mozilla*
[05:51] <jeanmass> i have to do it manually?
[05:51] <intelikey> yep
[05:51] <Alonea> SilentDis: yuuuup. using exact same one I installed it the first time with 3 days ago.
[05:51] <jeanmass> is safe to remove a .whateverfolder in home?
[05:51] <Alonea> SilentDis: and Envy downloaded the latest and got same error..
[05:51] <intelikey> you put it there you remove it.    "put it there by changing settings in the app"
[05:51] <SilentDis> Alonea: ok.. you're using Kubuntu 6.10 (edgy) right?
[05:52] <intelikey> yes it safe to remove ~/*
[05:52] <intelikey> it is ^
[05:52] <Alonea> SilentDis: yeah, and I got this once before when I tried to install this on 64bit...but it was looking for lib64 stuff then, so I went back to 32 bit which installed this perfectly fine..that is untill adept ruined it.
[05:52] <SilentDis> jeanmass: the most 'harm' that'll happen by removing a directory in your home folder is if it's settings for an app, it'll rebuild the next time it's started
[05:53] <intelikey> safe....     and at times might be desireable...   rm -r ~/.??* ~/*
[05:53] <SilentDis> Alonea: ok... stupid possible solution.  have you tried switching from dash to bash, just to be sure it's not something stupid in a script?
[05:53] <jeanmass> i am entering rm -r ~/.??* ~/* right now then
[05:53] <Jucato> intelikey?
[05:54] <Jucato> jeanmass: no
[05:54] <SilentDis> Alonea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[05:54] <Jucato> unless that is what you want
[05:54] <jeanmass> ?
[05:54] <intelikey> Jucato and why not ?
 unless that is what you want
[05:54] <Alonea> it has been bash...i use command bash ./ati-blah blah blah.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy
[05:54] <intelikey> k
[05:54] <jeanmass> Jucato: i want to remove old config folders from home
[05:55] <Alonea> ok, will try that..and nope..didnt work.
[05:55] <Jucato> jeanmass: ok. if you're comfortable deleting them without any chance of recovery. otherwise I'd recommend just moving them first
[05:55] <SilentDis> Alonea: checking seveas and alberto repos, seeing if they've got a prebuilt deb available...
[05:55] <Jucato> jeanmass: also, that will not only delete configs
[05:55] <Jucato> it will also delete app data like mails, playlists, feeds, etc
[05:55] <jeanmass> ok
[05:55] <Alonea> SilentDis: @@...?
[05:55] <Jucato> passwords too
[05:56] <SilentDis> Alonea: rather than hand-building it on your 'puter, there might be a pre-built ready to use .deb file that you can just let dpkg install for you.
[05:56] <Alonea> ok, what would the file name be?
[05:57] <SilentDis> Alonea: checking repos now... give me a moment, i'm on dialup lol
[05:57] <Alonea> wait..i still have some fglrx deb files...
[05:57] <coco> hi everybody
[05:57] <Alonea> nm...they are for old driver
[05:59] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: see ya mate God bless u
[05:59] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: You too
[05:59] <lnxkde> hehehe btw DaSkreech I am using Oxygen on KDE 3 ;)
[05:59] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: I'm trying to hold off on KDe4 stuff tilli t hits
[06:00] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: I know emotion fades
[06:00] <DaSkreech>  I compiled strigi and marble though
[06:00] <lnxkde> but still
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Like them?
[06:00] <lnxkde> yep prety neet
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Emotion?
[06:00] <lnxkde> feelings ;)
[06:00] <lnxkde> sorry
[06:00] <lnxkde> emocion <--- in spanish
[06:00] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:01] <lnxkde> my english and spanish get mixed sometimes
[06:01] <lnxkde> hehehe
[06:01] <lnxkde> ;)
[06:01] <DaSkreech> no emotion is right i was just wondering if you meant the feeling or ... something else
[06:01] <Alonea> it made sense to me..
[06:01] <Alonea> ^___^
[06:01] <lnxkde> ohh
[06:01] <lnxkde> well my english is not too bad then ;)
[06:01] <Alonea> i think I am used to other ways of speaking anyways..
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Alonea: It made sense to me in two ways. I just wanted to clarify :)
[06:02] <Alonea> DaSkreech: ?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: no it isn't :)
[06:02] <|Iwonder|> got a question,when i get this machine configured the way i want is there an easy way to creat a ckone of it for easy reinstall
[06:02] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: &%*($%(#((@*
[06:02] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: How is that compiz blog going? :-)
[06:02] <lnxkde> LMAO nothing really
[06:02] <lnxkde> I dont have time to blog
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Want to know how many meanings I can get out of ^^^ that? :)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: RL?
[06:02] <lnxkde> but I got my beryl/NvidiaGL and all my system running very nice
[06:03] <Alonea> DaSkreech: what do you want to clarify?
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Alonea: It's clarified :)
[06:03] <Alonea> DaSkreech: ok, what is clarified, that I am screwed?
[06:04] <lnxkde> well guys I have to go Its 1am here and I have to work tomorow
[06:04] <lnxkde> God bless
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Alonea: are we in the same conversation?
[06:04] <Alonea> DaSkreech: probably not...I am confused...
[06:04] <intelikey> DaSkreech you know the differance between a duck ?
[06:05] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Sure
[06:05] <intelikey> DaSkreech one leg is both the same.
[06:05] <DaSkreech>  just run diff :)
[06:05] <SilentDis> Alonea: i'm not seeing the packages listed in alberto's repo...  checking seveas now.
[06:05] <Alonea> DaSkreech: ya know what..I figured it out now..ignore me. its late and I am not all here..
[06:05] <Alonea> SilentDis: okies, thanks love
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Alonea: you can fix it tomorrow :)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Alonea: I guess #ubuntu-effects did not help?
[06:06] <Alonea> nope
[06:06] <intelikey> conversation thought idea irc Alonea
[06:06] <Alonea> intelikey: uuwa?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Ha ha ha
[06:07] <SilentDis> Alonea: not seeing it from seveas either :(
[06:07] <intelikey> ok. back to work.
[06:07] <Alonea> SilentDis: ok
[06:07] <Alonea> intelikey: am I being made fun of? *sniffles*
[06:07] <jeanmass> thank you very much for your help
[06:07] <jeanmass> i'am going to study now
[06:07] <jeanmass> see you later
[06:08] <SilentDis> Alonea: i'm not sure what to suggest now.  this is the first time i've seen someone fail a driver build for either ati or nvidia that has the build-essential package, AND had envy fail as well.  i'm at a loss :(
[06:08] <Alonea> SilentDis: its ok, so are 3 other channels.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> what card do you have
[06:09] <DaSkreech>  why do you need an old gcc?
[06:10] <Alonea> DaSkreech: i dont need an old gcc, when I removed an older one, adept removed stuff for my video card riiiiight along with it
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Alonea: ... Umm Ok
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Walk me though what happened?
[06:12] <intelikey> Alonea i don't make fun
[06:12] <Alonea> DaSkreech: ok, I was trying to fix another gcc problem I was having with another thing and thought maybe it was because there was more than one version of gcc on. 3.0 and 4.1 . So, I removed 3.0 and when I was watching the dialog i saw it said "removing fglrx" and stuff related to it as well. Now, I need to put it back on so I removed any other fglrx things I could think of and tried to...
[06:12] <Alonea> ...install again. Now I can't any more.
[06:12] <Alonea> intelikey: okay. I just didnt understand what you were saying
[06:13] <DaSkreech> intelikey: seen the pastebin of the problem?
[06:13] <Alonea> DaSkreech: now, I get this pretty little number, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[06:16] <alakhia> !wireless
[06:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:17] <DaSkreech> I take it apt-get install fglrx doesn't work?
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> hey all
[06:17] <nixternal> I hope not
[06:18] <Alonea> DaSkreech: not generally no. if I ever did it solely by repo before, baaaad things happened
[06:18] <DaSkreech> nixternal: :P
[06:18] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver
[06:18] <nixternal> ;p
[06:18] <Admiral_Chicago> haha
[06:18] <Alonea> i tried that earlier and i think I got it sorta on there, but then it was at mesa with more problems created...
[06:19] <nixternal> sudo aticonfig --initial && sudo aticonfig --overlay=Xv
[06:19] <nixternal> I think
[06:19] <nixternal> don't use the documentation on our wiki because you will do nothing but cuss us, there is an ATI wiki somewhere in the world that has great docs that will make it work for you
[06:20] <Alonea> well it worked first time around nixternal just fine, until adept kinda removed parts of it...at this point it will be quicker to reinstall system...again, for i think the 4th time now in a month
[06:22] <nixternal> shh
[06:22] <nixternal> I am the know nothing bot!
[06:22] <Jucato> :D
[06:22] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago only talks when I allow him to talk, he knows better
[06:22] <Jucato> and I'm the bot that doesn't know everything about KDE :D
[06:22] <nixternal> bull!
[06:22] <Alonea> and I am the bot that spouts and creates problems
[06:23] <Jucato> Alonea: nah. you don't create problesm. ATI does that for you :P
[06:23] <Alonea> i am the human virus for linux. i do nothing but destroy it.
[06:23] <Alonea> Jucato: this isn't the only way i have broken linux (er..,ati has blame too then). ^__________^
[06:24] <Jucato> :D
[06:24] <Alonea> I still love how I completely utterly locked myself out of my own useraccount
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Alonea: All is fixable with a Live CD patience and knowledge
[06:25] <Alonea> when I tried to log in, I would put pass in, it would start to login, then go back to pass screen in an endless loops
[06:25] <jeanmass> hello
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Well time to strip this wallpaper
[06:25] <jeanmass> i am doing some backup
[06:25] <Alonea> and I could not even login under the recovery either.
 Alonea: All is fixable with a Live CD patience and knowledge... -> and a portable DaSkreech
[06:25] <Alonea> lol
[06:25] <jeanmass> i am copying folders from /home to external hdd (ipod)
[06:25] <DaSkreech> maybe a cheering squad :)
[06:25] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: good idea
[06:26] <Alonea> yeha, I tink I will just say screw it and reinstall Kubuntu..wow...how many times have I said that for windows too...
[06:26] <Jucato> better than simply rm'ing :)
[06:26] <jeanmass> when i right click on /home/folder properties
[06:26] <jeanmass> and /media/ipod/storage/folder properties
[06:26] <alakhia> I have a question about wireless networking ...
[06:26] <Alonea> Linux better not catch up number wise on reformats due to windows...
[06:26] <jeanmass> i have the same files and folders
[06:26] <alakhia> Everytime I boot up, I don't have networking and I need to run wireless assistant
[06:26] <jeanmass> but the size varies a bit
[06:26] <Alonea> at least I dont have to reformat my home folder and just root
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Alonea: You can fix it if you have faith
[06:27] <alakhia> is there any way I can have my settings be persistent?
[06:27] <Alonea> DaSkreech: uh huh, but reformatting in this case will take me 20 minutes and to get wifi and vid card back another 10 at most.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Oh Yeah I know
[06:27] <alakhia> also, does knetworkmanager any good?
[06:27] <jeanmass> for instance
[06:28] <DaSkreech>  I've taken 5 days to fix a X problem that could be solved by a 15 minute install
[06:28] <unix_infidel> alpha testing ftw.
[06:28] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: overall size is the same?
[06:28] <Alonea> DaSkreech: yup. sometimes simplest solution is best
[06:28] <alakhia> or anyone know what /etc files to mess with?
[06:28] <DaSkreech>  Filesysystem differences can cause small size diffeernces
[06:28] <jeanmass>  /home/folder 80files, 3subfolders, 15,214,413
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Wehn time is of the essence
[06:29] <DaSkreech>  but knowing how to fix problems helps you a lot
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: quiet, I don't need your permission
[06:29] <Alonea> DaSkreech: or stress will cause laptop to be thrown into wall..
[06:29] <Alonea> DaSkreech: that it does.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Possibly
[06:29] <jeanmass>  /media/ipod/storage/folder 80files, 3subfolders, 15,214,509
[06:29] <alakhia> can any one help?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: he's in the wallpaper don't do that
[06:29] <alakhia> please?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> See now the wallpaper is all ripped :-(
[06:30] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: yeah that's cool
[06:30] <Alonea> DaSkreech: and I certainly know all I ever needed to know about ndiswrapper...
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> oh dang sorry DaSkreech
[06:30] <DaSkreech> alakhia: What isn't sticking?
[06:30] <alakhia> DaSkreech: my wireless settings ... I always need to run wireless assistant
[06:31] <DaSkreech> alakhia: umm not sure does it have a save settings button?
[06:31] <alakhia> DaSkreech: I wish!
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Hey this is a family spot
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Jucato: take down that ubuntu "human" wallpaper!
[06:31] <Jucato> dang! I thought you wouldn't notice...
[06:31] <Jucato> :(
[06:31] <jeanmass> folder 2: same amount of files and subfolders but 4,259,942,206 at home and 4,259,970,878
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Help alakhia for a bit I gotta run out
[06:32] <jeanmass> am i losing some data?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: not sure. There will be size differences between two file systems
[06:32] <Alonea> Jucato: if you use that guerilla glue...he wont be able to move..pierod. I love that stuff. best glue ever
[06:32] <Alonea> *period
[06:32] <jeanmass> one is linux, the other FAT32 (ipod)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> some store large files effiecently some store small files
[06:33] <intelikey> cp + symlinks @ jeanmass
[06:33] <Jucato> DaSkreech, alakhia: sorry, no idea about wireless stuff... :(
[06:33] <jeanmass> intelikey: ??
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Well pokesomeone who does
[06:33] <Alonea> alakhia: whats wrong with your wifi?
[06:33] <alakhia> Jucata & DaSkreech: Ok, thanks for trying
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Nothing
[06:33] <DaSkreech>  it just needs to get setup everytime he(?) boots
[06:33] <alakhia> Alonea: my wireless settings don't persist
[06:34] <alakhia> Alonea: yes, he is fine! :)
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Good :)
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Don't wanna assume :)
[06:34] <alakhia> Alonea: I need to run wireless assistant everytime
[06:34] <alakhia> Alonea: I was fine the first few times ... but now I hate doing it
[06:34] <Alonea> like, it wont turn on? as in modules or something else? Of course I am used to having ndiswrapper to get my wifi card to do anything. though once its on, I dont have to do anything at al
[06:35] <jeanmass> if same amoount of files and subfolders, then backup is ok?
[06:35] <alakhia> Alonea: I don't know about modules ... seems like my wireless card is working
[06:35] <alakhia> Alonea: I just need to tell it which network to connect to
[06:35] <Alonea> oh ok. so its just not connecting automatically?
[06:35] <alakhia> Alonea: maybe it is getting confused because I have an ethernet card too?
[06:36] <alakhia> Alonea: yes ... don't have to load modules or anything
[06:36] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, and have you tried right clicking, telling it to foget settings, and then telling it to do automatic again?
[06:37] <bumzo> hi guys ... who here knows how to add MSN to kopote?
[06:37] <daifunai> i need my comp to interact with my secondary hard drive
[06:37] <ubuntu> k
[06:38] <DarkED> hi all, when i try to run beryl in kubuntu 6.10 i get > Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[06:38] <DarkED> No composite extension found
[06:38] <Alonea> alakhia: and whats the seconds for the timeout under options for the wifi spot?
[06:38] <alakhia> Alonea: ok, tried forget settings
[06:38] <DarkED> anyone have any ideas?
[06:38] <alakhia> Alonea: 15s
[06:39] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, thats fine...
[06:39] <alakhia> Alonea: there is nothing saying automatic anything
[06:39] <alakhia> Alonea: if I right click my network, my only choice is "Disconnect"
[06:39] <Alonea> uuuwa?!
[06:40] <alakhia> Alonea: I upgraded from Dapper ... did that mess things up?
[06:40] <Alonea> alakhia: I have an automatic dhcpc thing choice. like, you right click, do edit settings, and set to auto...
[06:40] <Alonea> dunno. never had daper
[06:40] <Alonea> what version is your assistant?
[06:41] <alakhia> Alonea: hmm, I only have 3 buttons on right side: Refresh, Options and Quit
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Jucato: yes?
[06:41] <alakhia> Alonea: 0.5.5
[06:41] <Jucato> ??
[06:41] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, thats right. hmm, maybe its not running as root or something..
[06:41] <Alonea> alakhia: it asks for password when you try to start is right?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> bumzo: I know!
[06:41] <alakhia> Alonea: no, I type my password before it starts
[06:42] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, and you dont have an edit settings when you right click the place you are currently connected to?
[06:42] <DaSkreech> DarkED: Maybe you don't have the XComposite :)
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Jucato: You poked me
[06:42] <alakhia> Alonea: not anymore ... I asked it to forget settings
[06:43] <DaSkreech> g0od_girl: right
[06:43] <alakhia> Alonea: let me try to disconnect and reconnect
[06:43] <Alonea> alakhia: oh, duh. yeah, disconnect. reconnect. then do edit settings..
[06:43] <alakhia> Alonea: I'll be back!
[06:43] <Alonea> alakhia: k
 Jucato: Well pokesomeone who does
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Jerk
[06:44] <Jucato> O.o
[06:44] <Jucato> now you want me to... nvm.
[06:44] <bumzo> anyone with onything on kopote?
[06:44] <Alonea> awww! now come on dears. be nice.
[06:44] <Alonea> we gotta LOVE each other
[06:45] <Jucato> what's onything? a new service/IM?
[06:45] <DaSkreech> bumzo: I know!
[06:45] <Jucato> !love
[06:46] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[06:46] <Jucato> :D
[06:46] <Alonea> LOL
[06:46] <bumzo> daskreech: please help me out
[06:46] <Alonea> you are loverly Jucato
[06:46] <Alonea> hmm...!ati
[06:46] <alakhia> Alonea: ok, I have edit settings choice when I right click
[06:46] <alakhia> Alonea: it is in automatic mode
[06:46] <alakhia> Alonea: so everything is greyed out
[06:46] <Jucato> !ati | Alonea
[06:46] <ubotu> Alonea: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:46] <DaSkreech> bumzo: Neva!!!! Muwahahaha
[06:47] <Alonea> needs a description of evil
[06:47] <DaSkreech> bumzo: You seriously can't figure it out?
[06:47] <alakhia> Alonea: ok, am back
[06:47] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, hopefully it will autoconnect now
[06:48] <alakhia> Alonea: ok, let me try it ... thanks for your help
[06:48] <Alonea> like, have that description and then say "Otheriwise, commit seppuku."
[06:48] <bumzo> daskreech: for real i cant ... my kopote has gone bonkas
[06:48] <DaSkreech> bumzo: Settings -> Configure Kopete -> accounts
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Alonea: svn commit seppuku ?
[06:49] <Alonea> DaSkreech: *bursts out laughing* that would be greaat
[06:49] <Alonea> Jucato: make sure its niiiiiice and sharp
[06:49] <bumzo> daskreech:oh my god i feel so stupid
[06:50] <DaSkreech> bumzo: Welcome to my club. Would you like a card?
[06:50] <hsystem-x> jajajajajajajajaja
[06:50] <hsystem-x> a card, jajajaja
[06:50] <Alonea> DaSkreech: now, to make sure, you DO know what seppuku is right?
[06:50] <bumzo> daskreech: lol and a complemetry for msn for dummies lol
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Alonea: if you know what svn commit is :)
[06:51] <Alonea> DaSkreech: that I do. I dont commit for rockbox, but I sure I do get their svn builds.
[06:52] <Alonea> DaSkreech: I am happy then went to subversion...hated CVS
[06:52] <DaSkreech> There is only one honourable thing to do then
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Seppuku for everyone!!!! :)
[06:52] <DaSkreech> heehee
[06:52] <Alonea> I swear I am making this my msn for the next month
[06:52] <DaSkreech> bumzo: I'll get right on that. You still have to pay for your copy though
[06:53] <Alonea> it should be a t-shirt
[06:53] <dougb> are there any KDE snes emulators?
[06:54] <hsystem-x> yeah, there is one on synaptic ^^.
[06:54] <DaSkreech> !zsnes
[06:54] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:55] <dougb> its not available on feisty
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Alonea: I'll get right on that as well
[06:55] <DaSkreech> !zsnes feisty
[06:55] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:55] <dougb> hmmmmm
[06:55] <DaSkreech> dougb: ubotu disagrees
[06:55] <Alonea> DaSkreech: pimp it out to ThinkGeek
[06:55] <hsystem-x> good bot ^^
[06:55] <dougb> adept lies
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Alonea: they pay for that
[06:55] <DaSkreech> dougb: more possible than ubotu
[06:56] <hsystem-x> aptitude ^^
[06:56] <dougb> thats fine hsystem-x, i use apt-get :-P
[06:56] <Jucato> dang lag..
[06:57] <Alonea> DaSkreech: we hope. I can see people buying a shirt that says that. Its a opensource and japan joke all in one...
[06:58] <Romexios> Does anyone know how i can give my self permission to be able to run things in the background? i am trying to run an eggdrop..
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Romexios: just run it with a & at the end
[06:59] <DaSkreech> it will drop into the background
[06:59] <Alonea> well, I have this thing called school tomorrow...have to go pretend to listen in history...
[07:00] <Romexios> DaSkreech: Could you please be more precise? I type /.eggdrop name.conf so all i need todo is /.eggdrop name.conf& ?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> that's the idea
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Alonea: later
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Alonea: tomorrow?
[07:00] <Alonea> DaSkreech: later dear. Shall fix this damn..er beloved system tomorrow.
[07:00] <DaSkreech> darked__: Welcome back
[07:01] <Alonea> DaSkreech: yeah...probably during history...I take notes on my laptop.
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Hold the fort
[07:01] <DaSkreech>  Off to bed
[07:01] <Alonea> Jucato: yes, hold the fort.
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Alonea: It's not really broken :-P
[07:01] <DarkED> DaSkreech: Thanks, I'm having trouble with lockups =/
[07:01] <DaSkreech>  not like it can't boot past grub
[07:01] <Alonea> DaSkreech: just disfunctional, like me.
[07:01] <DaSkreech> nonuda_: Welcome back
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Alonea: we should hang out more :)
[07:02] <Alonea> DaSkreech: had that a couple times too. Its fun when you dont get ANY bootloader
[07:02] <DaSkreech> bumzo: night
[07:02] <nonuda_> hehe..yup..
[07:02] <meme-2> Hello folks, can someone remind me how to search for a file reclusively. (DOS equiv to dir /s \file*.* - search for any instance of any file beginning with "file" from all folders beginning at root)
[07:02] <meme-2> I wish to do this from terminal BTW. Thank you
[07:02] <DaSkreech> meme-2: Umm which of 20 ways do you want?
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> hey htere
[07:03] <DaSkreech> meme-2: ls -R | grep filename
[07:03] <meme-2> DaSkreech: pick your fav. :-)
[07:03] <Alonea> ^__________^
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you all need from me
[07:03] <DaSkreech> A tip of the hat
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Man I'm missing Futurama
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Night all
[07:04] <nonuda_> its noon..heh
[07:04] <Kite_DH> does anybody know a program to see in/outcoming connections?
[07:05] <intelikey> meme-2 find /base_dir/ -iname *string*
[07:05] <meme-2> DaSkreech: I though grep was for searching inside files?  Anyhow... when I try that, nothing seems to have, have to hit control-c
[07:06] <intelikey> meme-2 if you only want files     find /base_dir/ -type f -iname *string*     or exact match. remove the two asterisks
[07:08] <hackdaddy> how do i server up images from an apache2 perl script running from the cgi-bin under my home directory?
[07:09] <intelikey> meme-2 slocate is an app made for that also,  but it uses a database that can be out of date.   "sudo updatedb "   will put it back in sync       slocate blah
[07:09] <meme-2> intelikey: thanks that worked! I had installed kvirc... but it didn't show up in the menu or on the desk.  Found it and now it is running.
[07:09] <hackdaddy> apache2 seems to want to exec the images instead of displaying them
[07:10] <intelikey> meme-2 you should never need to find things you install via a package manager.  the executable should always be in your path.      (key word should)
[07:10] <hackdaddy> crap, i just figured it out
[07:11] <intelikey> meme-2 thus     kvir[tab] 
[07:11] <hackdaddy> i thought that .. out of the cgi bin was forbidden???
[07:12] <intelikey> hackdaddy i know nothing about apache,  i'm cherokee
[07:13] <hackdaddy> man, i used to know that old apache1 conf file, but apache2 is quite different
[07:14] <Kite_DH> does anybody know a program to see in/outcoming connections?
[07:14] <DarkED> anyone know any good skydomes for Beryl?
[07:14] <Kite_DH> yes
[07:14] <Kite_DH> in the beryl forum
[07:15] <DarkED> Kite_DH: thanks
[07:15] <distroid> im having problems getting mysql to work... what password does it want?  it never asked during the install.
[07:18] <meme-1> Okay, I am back and inside KVIrc - thanks for all the help
[07:19] <firecrotc1> distroid: There is no password by default, but you'll want to change that
[07:19] <meme-1> I am not sure the "grass is greener" with this app. though.. I liked the cleaner interface with Konversation.
[07:19] <firecrotc1> distroid: mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD
[07:23] <distroid> oh i missed that last bit thanks
[07:23] <distroid> [slapping forehead] 
[07:26] <jeanmass> hi
[07:26] <jeanmass> i want to delete the 1st user, the one you setup when installing kubuntu, but i cant!
[07:28] <intelikey> jeanmass have you set a root passowrd or added some other user to the admin group ?
[07:28] <distroid> exit
[07:28] <distroid> exit
[07:28] <distroid> exit
[07:28] <distroid> exit
[07:28] <intelikey> /exit
[07:29] <distroid> duh thanks
[07:29] <jeanmass> yes other users are in the admin group
[07:29] <nixternal> hahahahahahaha
[07:30] <intelikey> jeanmass then as one of the other users  sudo userdel firstusername
[07:31] <jeanmass> done
[07:31] <jeanmass> how can i check if it worked properly?
[07:32] <intelikey> try to login as that user
[07:32] <jeanmass> ok it worked
[07:32] <intelikey> grep that username from /etc/passwd
[07:32] <jeanmass> now i have to del /home
[07:32] <jeanmass> !adm
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <intelikey> jeanmass there was a switch that would have done that too.   but just a note.  you don't mean /home  you mean /home/user1    unless your other users don't live in /home/
[07:34] <jeanmass> yes /home/user1
[07:34] <jeanmass> a switch? you mean graphical?
[07:35] <intelikey> jeanmass good practice, and common sense says, if someone gives you a command to run and you are not fameliar with it.    man command     first.
[07:35] <intelikey> jeanmass no i mean a switch.
[07:35] <intelikey> man userdel
[07:36] <jeanmass> i m not sure what you mean
[07:36] <intelikey> man userdel
[07:36] <jeanmass> but i've done what i wanted
[07:36] <jeanmass> thanx!
[07:36] <intelikey> man man
[07:36] <intelikey> man intro
[07:37] <jeanmass> by the way what is the adm group for?
[07:37] <intelikey> idk
[07:37] <intelikey> i don't think i have that group
[07:38] <intelikey> hmmm ok i do have... it gid is 4    odd.
[07:38] <Jucato> adm  adm  Administrative special privileges
[07:38] <Jucato> according to http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/usernames.html
[07:38] <intelikey> Jucato but no one is in adm.
[07:38] <alakhia> !beryl
[07:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:39] <jeanmass> so my username should be in admin and adm?
[07:39] <intelikey> admin
[07:39] <Skuller> why does my kicker hate me so much that it kicks itself out (crashes) in front of me many times?
[07:39] <Jucato> except my user...
[07:39] <intelikey> Jucato did you add yourself to adm ?
[07:40] <Jucato> no. it's default
[07:40] <intelikey> feisty ?
[07:40] <Jucato> I can remember it in dapper as well
[07:40] <jeanmass> yes ot's default
[07:40] <jeanmass> so as i am changing my default user
[07:40] <jeanmass> should i put him in adm group?
[07:40] <intelikey> Jucato yeah dapper has adm group but didn't set any one in it by default
[07:41] <Jucato> intelikey: not even your own user? I mean the default user created belongs to that group
[07:41] <Jucato> iirc
[07:41] <intelikey> Jucato no
[07:41] <intelikey> it's empty
[07:42] <Jucato> what's the command again to check members of a particular group?
[07:42] <jeanmass> brb
[07:43] <intelikey> Jucato grep groupname /etc/group
[07:43] <Jucato> ah
[07:43] <Jucato> yep I'm there...
[07:43] <intelikey> hmmm   i fresh installed dapper last weak and i'm not there.     idk....
[07:44] <Jucato> "Table 21-2 is a table of optional mnemonic user and group names. This specification makes no attempt to numerically assign uid or gid numbers. If the username exists on a system, then they should be in the suggested corresponding group. These user and group names are for use by distributions, not by applications."
[07:44] <Jucato> optional anyway
[07:44] <intelikey> if you remember i "tried really really really hard to keep it all default"
[07:45] <Jucato> must have been a great sacrifice on your part. :)
[07:45] <intelikey> lasted three days before i broke *exploded* and started configuring things.    i thought i did real good...
[07:46] <Onewing> exit
[07:46] <Jucato> the only reason I keep "some" defaults is for user support...
[07:46] <intelikey> /exit
[07:46] <Onewing> thanx
[07:46] <intelikey> yeah that was my intent.   it didn't work.
[07:46] <Onewing> /exit
[07:46] <intelikey> Onewing lol
[07:47] <Jucato> Onewing: no space before /
[07:47] <Jucato> actually I thought it should be /quit...
[07:47] <Jucato> intelikey: next best thing would probably to use some virtualization voodoo
[07:47] <intelikey> if all else fails   sudo killall -9 "irc_client_name"
[07:47] <intelikey> Jucato yeah
[07:48] <intelikey> Jucato you know my philosophy on "default" anyway.    it's just a starting point on the long road to right.
[07:48] <Jucato> :)
[07:50] <intelikey> console has ruined me on that.   first thing i do is switch the desktop to plain black background
[07:51] <intelikey> but i used to do that in windows and get mad cause you couldn't remove the "my disputer" and "thrash" icons...    so maybe it wasn't the console that did it.....
[07:51] <firecrotc1> !quicktime
[07:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:51] <Jucato> :)
[07:55] <intelikey> what in the sam hill is   .rnd   in root's home ?
[07:55] <intelikey> it's a binary file....
[07:55] <KaoticEvil> i think the first thing most people do is customize the lookNfeel of their computer
[07:55] <intelikey> # file .rnd
[07:55] <intelikey> .rnd: data
[07:56] <Jucato> depends... some people don't even bother... specially if the defaults are... um... bearable
[07:56] <KaoticEvil> and doubly so with geeks
[07:56] <intelikey> lol
[07:56] <KaoticEvil> after i get my mission-critical apps installed, it's on to tweaking the lnf
[07:56] <KaoticEvil> O_O
[07:56] <KaoticEvil> dont do that :(
[07:57] <chuen> Hi. I've installed Sun Java, but when I check for the Java version I have installed I get that 1.4.2 Free version is installed.
[07:57] <chuen> What can I do about that?
[07:57] <intelikey> callen' us geeks...
[07:57] <Jucato> chuen: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:57] <chuen> jucato: Thanks, will try that.
[07:57] <KaoticEvil> heh
[08:02] <intelikey> KaoticEvil it can be done.   and it will super ruin a bios.
[08:04] <KaoticEvil> intelikey: im not sure i want to know how to do it in that case... i might be tempted :P
[08:05] <chuen> jucato: That simple command (config java) has saved me hours of grief! Thanks a lot :)
[08:05] <Skuller> did someone say ruiin a bios?...im in!
[08:05] <Jucato> chuen: you're welcome a lot :)
[08:05] <firecrotc1> Count me in on the BIOS-ruining action!
[08:06] <KaoticEvil> lol
[08:06] <Skuller> n we'll call ourselves the 'BIOS Screwer League'.....*trumpets/drums*
[08:07] <KaoticEvil> buncha twisted geeks at that lol
[08:07] <KaoticEvil> Skuller: why not BIOS Screwers Of Doom?.. B.S.O.D. for short :)
[08:07] <sonoftheclayr> lol
[08:07] <Skuller> lol
[08:08] <Skuller> KaoticEvil: good one...i'll file the petition right away..hope the name isnt taken
[08:08] <intelikey> Jucato you're supposed to quail !offtopic   at about that point....
[08:08] <Skuller> lol
[08:09] <Jucato> intelikey: sshhh :)
[08:09] <Skuller> sorriz guys.....continue with the helping each other part
[08:09] <Jucato> weren't you helping screw BIOS'es?
[08:09] <intelikey> Skuller atm we were only helping relieve stress...
[08:10] <intelikey> lol does good like dope
[08:10] <intelikey> to misquote the proverb
[08:11] <Skuller> cool...:)
[08:15] <intelikey> heh i have local lag time on my irc client of 4-6 seconds  but network is about 1 second ....
[08:26] <Skuller> what will happen if i  put alias vim=emacs in my /etc/profile?
[08:30] <Skuller> @lart Skuller for creating a solar powered torch
[08:30] <michael_> #ubuntu
[08:30] <NaNO2x> was wondering if there was anyone around who could help me install a driver, its for some quite unsuported hardware and there is a snv version but its not working well at getting installed
[08:31] <NaNO2x> https://sourceforge.net/projects/m560x-driver/ would be the driver
[08:31] <NaNO2x> if there is a better section to go id be appreciative for the direction
[08:37] <jamie> hello, do any of you know if hardware accelleration for my ATI Raedon x300 card is supported in Ubuntu?
[08:39] <unix_infidel> jamie: radeon accel is baddddly supported in linux in general.
[08:39] <unix_infidel> non 3d accel works perfectly fine.
[08:39] <david_> Howdy. How do I get the Lame encoder for Kubuntu? It's not part of apt-get.
[08:40] <jamie> ok... i was really talking about 3d
[08:40] <Lynoure> jamie: see http://www.google.com/search?q=+hardware+acceleration+x300+ubuntu if you have not
[08:40] <unix_infidel> !lame
[08:40] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[08:40] <unix_infidel> you werent looking hard enough
[08:41] <Ayabara2> does anyone know how I initially create my inetd.conf file? vmware server needs it, but it's not created when I start the inetd service
[08:42] <david_> how do i find lame? It doesn't show up in apt-get or Adept.
[08:43] <Jucato> !info lame | david_
[08:43] <ubotu> david_: lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[08:44] <Jucato> enable multiverse
[08:44] <Jucato> !multiverse | david_
[08:44] <ubotu> david_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:44] <david_> Lemme look...
[08:48] <david_> OK, I see... I actually have to add 'multiverse' after the 'universe' line, not just enable something.
[08:48] <david_> Done, thanks! :-)
[08:48] <david_> -oo-
[08:50] <rigved> hi... can anybody pls help me with a small local browser problem in kubuntu
[08:50] <rigved> i m not able to display the pound  sign
[08:51] <rigved> in konquerer it is left blank
[08:51] <rigved> in firefox it shows a question mark
[08:51] <rigved> pls help
 i m not able to display the pound  sign
[08:53] <rigved> [13:21]  <rigved> in konquerer it is left blank
[08:53] <rigved> [13:21]  <rigved> in firefox it shows a question mark
[08:53] <rigved> [13:21]  <rigved> pls help
[08:53] <Ash-Fox> Stop flooding
[08:54] <Lynoure> rigved: have you search for a solution already?
[08:55] <rigved> Lynoure hi i am able to see the character
 i m not able to display the pound  sign
[08:55] <rigved> [13:21]  <rigved> in konquerer it is left blank
[08:55] <rigved> [13:21]  <rigved> in firefox it shows a question mark
[08:55] <rigved> [13:21]  <rigved> pls help
[08:55] <rigved> sorry
[08:55] <rigved> Lynoure i am able to see the char on the site when its online
[08:55] <rigved> rigved only locally i cant see it
[08:55] <Ash-Fox> Which site?
[08:56] <rigved> Ash-Fox a lingerie site i m developing
[08:56] <rigved> http://www.fusion5a.com/test/desire/
[08:56] <Lynoure> rigved: pound as in # or the UK pound sterling?
[08:56] <rigved> 
[08:56] <utnubuk> where might openoffice.org keep it's files besides /home/username/.openoffice.org2?
[08:57] <Ash-Fox> rigved, I do see it just fine
[08:57] <utnubuk> im hoping i can find a backup of a corrupted file : /
[08:57] <rigved> Ash-Fox i know... i can see it too when i open it from online... but offline i cant see it
[08:57] <Ash-Fox> rigved, what is the page encoding set to in firefox under view -> character encoding
[08:58] <rigved> Ash-Fox i ll just check...
[08:58] <Lynoure> rigved: this could be informative for you? http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/01/how-to-change-your-default-locale-on.html but if you input  yourself, and look at it in konq or ff, do you see it?
[08:58] <rigved> Ash-Fox ok i get it... it was not set to utf-8.. am i right
[08:59] <Ash-Fox> Actually, wait a sec.
[08:59] <Lynoure> rigved: (I'm not actually recommending changing away form UTF8, as then you miss all the other utf8 fun)
[09:00] <rigved> Lynoure it was not utf-8
[09:00] <Ash-Fox> rigved, the problem is that you're not using proper HTML
[09:00] <rigved> i made it utf-8
[09:00] <dettoaltrimenti_> im trying to make firefox automatically open torrents in ktorrent- where is the program 'ktorrent' in my filesystem?
[09:00] <rigved> o
[09:00] <Ash-Fox> rigved, the pound symbol in HTML is &pound;
[09:00] <rigved> Ash-Fox but then how does it show on the online
[09:00] <Lynoure> rigved: that's what I assumed, but your system is, unless you changed it
[09:00] <rigved> Ash-Fox i ll try it anyway
[09:00] <Ash-Fox> rigved, replace   in your html code with &pound;
[09:01] <rigved> i did...
[09:01] <rigved> its not making any difference
[09:01] <Ash-Fox> It should.
[09:02] <Ash-Fox> It should actually work now.
[09:03] <rigved> Ash-Fox hey it did work!!!!!!!!
[09:03] <Ayabara2> is there a sampe inetd.conf file for ubuntu?
[09:03] <rigved> Ash-Fox thank u so much!!
[09:04] <Ash-Fox> rigved, your welcome
[09:04] <Ash-Fox> Ayabara2, I believe kubuntu comes with xinetd, open konqueror and enter the url man:xinetd.conf
[09:05] <Lynoure> Ayabara2: Which version?
[09:05] <Ash-Fox> At the bottom are some examples
[09:05] <Lynoure> Ayabara2: on feisty my /etc/inetd.conf is just an empty file
[09:05] <Ayabara2> Lynoure, 6.10. tried  to dist-upgrade to feisty yesterday, but it failed miserably
[09:05] <Ayabara2> Ash-Fox, thanks
[09:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> how can I view which display driver I'm using?
[09:06] <Ayabara2> Lynoure, I'll try an empty file. it's only to make vmware server happy
[09:09] <Ash-Fox> dettoaltrimenti_, it'll probably be the last line displayed when you run this command: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:09] <[pyro] > hey guys
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> Hallo [pyro] 
[09:12] <reverendnathan> Hi, I need help with FFMPEG.
[09:12] <reverendnathan>   Duration: 00:21:39.2, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1127 kb/s
[09:12] <reverendnathan>   Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 512x384, 23.98 fps(r)
[09:12] <reverendnathan>   Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 128 kb/s
[09:12] <reverendnathan> What should I put in for the MPEG's parameters?
[09:12] <Ash-Fox> !flooding
[09:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:12] <reverendnathan> I'm converting an AVI to MPEG
[09:13] <reverendnathan> I know "ffmpeg -i sp.avi sp.mpg, but that makes a very terrible quality output.
[09:14] <pollyo> Anyone use qemu to run windows?
[09:15] <Ash-Fox> reverendnathan, you might want to use VLC, which is based on ffmpeg tools.
[09:15] <Ash-Fox> reverendnathan, it comes with a GUI which should be helpful and once you make up the URI for making a stream or such, you can execute it from the console.
[09:15] <Ash-Fox> pollyo, sorry, I use vmware.
[09:16] <reverendnathan> Ash-Fox: It's outputting a blank video when I do it. However, the command line version of ffmpeg actually outputs both, just at a low quality.
[09:16] <utnubuk> how can i force openoffice.org to do run the data-recovery wizzard?
[09:17] <pollyo> Ash-Fox: Do you have to use a disk image with vmware?
[09:17] <Ash-Fox> pollyo, no.
[09:17] <pollyo> Ash-Fox: I have a dual boot system and I was looking for something that would allow me to also boot into the other OS while the other is running.
[09:17] <Ash-Fox> reverendnathan, I have no experience with ffmpeg, only VLC.
[09:18] <Ash-Fox> pollyo, vmware-server can use partitions if that's what you're asking.
[09:18] <pollyo> Ash-Fox: Do they have a free version of vmware-server?
[09:19] <Tm_T> pollyo: there is
[09:20] <Tm_T> pollyo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmware&titlesearch=Titles
[09:20] <Ash-Fox> pollyo vmware-server is free
[09:20] <Ash-Fox> !vmware-server
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <Ash-Fox> !vmware
[09:21] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:21] <pollyo> How is vmware next to qemu?
[09:21] <Freeza^> hey which is more customizable? kde or gnome?
[09:22] <firecrotch> Freeza^: KDE, definitely
[09:22] <Freeza^> is it possible to make kde have the application bar at the bottom a la osx?
[09:23] <Freeza^> without having to get another app
[09:24] <firecrotch> Freeza^: Nope
[09:25] <reverendnathan> Ash-Fox: Is there perhaps another conversion software to convert video you know of off the top of your head?
[09:26] <Freeza^> ahh because ive seen pics in kde-look.org of what looks like themes that have it setup like that
[09:27] <Ash-Fox> reverendnathan, VLC
[09:30] <firecrotch> Freeza^: If I recall correctly, those are showing a SuperKaramba theme that does it
[09:34] <orange_> how do i verify the checksum of a downloaded image?
[09:34] <Jucato> md5sum <file>
[09:35] <reverendnathan> Ash-Fox: I can't figure this out. I use the wizard to convert videos on VLC, correct?
[09:35] <Ash-Fox> reverendnathan, if you want
[09:37] <Ash-Fox> ctrl + w -> transcode/save to file -> choose file (just click browse, find it, click ok) -> set options.. yeah
[09:38] <Freeza^> ahh cool ill check that out
[09:38] <reverendnathan> I guess that's the problem, Ash-Fox . The whole process goes fine, but the outputted file is just audio with no video :(
[09:39] <Ash-Fox> does it play in the first place in VLC?
[09:40] <Ash-Fox> Are you even reencoding the video to mpeg?
[09:40] <Ash-Fox> err transcoding
[09:40] <reverendnathan> Ash-Fox: Yes. It's an XviD AVI That goes just fine. And the process of converting goes fine (Albiet strangely swift). Methinks its converting audio, but not video, even though video is also of course being asked to convert
[09:40] <reverendnathan> That's right
[09:40] <reverendnathan> To MPEG1 or MPEG4
[09:40] <reverendnathan> Neither work, and the outputted MPEG4 files crash VLC if I try to play them back
[09:40] <Ash-Fox> VLC can't play the resulting video?
[09:41] <reverendnathan> Correct.
[09:41] <pollyo> Does the VM Server also allow one to use partitions or is that only in the VM workstation?
[09:41] <xtavaresx_> !lame
[09:41] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[09:41] <Ash-Fox> reverendnathan, well, I think I better forward you to #videolan because I don't know what todo at this point :<
[09:42] <reverendnathan> Alright
[09:47] <reverendnathan> Looks like everyone is taking a nap over at #videolan :(
[09:50] <Hacking_Defined> can some on help me ?
[09:52] <Lynoure> Hacking_Defined: No idea yet. Maybe if you tell them what problem you have..
[09:56] <patridgek> is there any way to detect the font on a certain (browser) window by simply selecting it?
[09:56] <patridgek> is there any way to detect the font on a certain (browser) window by simply selecting the text?
[09:57] <Hacking_Defined> i ude adsl and when i connect to te web after a coppole of minutes i need to diconnect using poff and connect again pon dsl-provider if i want to use mozille or kconquer can some onehelp me ?
[09:57] <patridgek> Hacking_Defined: you can write a script
[09:58] <dystopianray> is it illegal to download and use libxine-extracodecs? or is it only the redistribution that is illegal?
[09:59] <jeanmass> hi !
[09:59] <jeanmass> i've configured pppoeconf
[09:59] <jeanmass> but when i am disconnected
[09:59] <jeanmass> it do not automatically reconnect
[09:59] <jeanmass> how can i fix that?
[10:01] <patridgek> Hacking_Defined: instead of the normal "firefox" entry menu, create another one with: "pon && firefox; poff"
[10:02] <Lynoure> patridgek: there is whatthefont site, but even for that you need a image of the font.
[10:03] <patridgek> Lynoure: so there's no local app?
[10:03] <Lynoure> patridgek: if it is window you control, you can check the font in the settings (or for webpages, the source)
[10:03] <Lynoure> patridgek: but for random fonts in images or such, no app, sorry.
[10:04] <patridgek> Lynoure: i see, thank you
[10:07] <jeanmass> anybody knows?
[10:10] <Jucato> jeanmass: pon dsl-provider  (that's the default)
[10:12] <jeanmass> i know pon dsl-provider
[10:13] <jeanmass> but ma connection disconnects often
[10:13] <jeanmass> i wish kde to reconnect auto
[10:13] <Jucato> afaik, it attempts to reconnect a couple of times
[10:13] <Jucato> (it's also not KDE handling this anymore)
[10:14] <tackat_> If somebody would like to try Marble: http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble14.png here are packages (they work for Edgy): http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble_0.2-3_i386.deb http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/kubuntu/marble-data_0.2-3_all.deb
[10:14] <jeanmass> but i always have to pon dsl-provider manualy when it disconnects
[10:15] <Jucato> ooh nice tackat_. might want to announce in #kubuntu-devel as well
[10:15] <horde> Every time I restart my laptop I have to reconnect to my network manually.  Anyone know how to make it automatic?
[10:16] <tackat_> Beware though: It's (pretty stable) beta software ;-)
[10:16] <Jucato> tackat_: as long as it doesn't suddenly delete my $HOME :)
[10:17] <tackat_> Jucato: it won't crash and it won't delete anything
[10:17] <tackat_> ;)
[10:33] <horde> Every time I restart my laptop I have to reconnect to my network manually.  Anyone know how to make it automatic?  I'm very new at this so am I just being stupid?
[10:36] <AbortD> can u download server tools if u didnt download the server version
[10:36] <AbortD> ?
[10:36] <dystopianray> AbortD: yes, everything is in the repos
[10:36] <AbortD> niceee
[10:37] <AbortD> havent used ubuntu in awhile
[10:37] <AbortD> hope i still know what im doing
[10:37] <AbortD> when is feisty coing out?
[10:37] <dystopianray> april 19
[10:37] <Jucato> or later
[10:37] <AbortD> haha
[10:37] <AbortD> hope im not in jail
[10:37] <AbortD> thats my court date
[10:37] <Jucato> O.o
[10:37] <roob> drug offence?
[10:38] <AbortD> not paying fines for a dui/paraphenalia/no front plate/broken windshield/seat belt
[10:38] <AbortD> but all i got was the dui :P
[10:39] <Jucato> wow....
[10:39] <AbortD> are they gonna stop making ubuntu when they get to z?
[10:40] <dystopianray> z?
[10:40] <AbortD> hold
[10:41] <horde> can anyone help me with my problem?
[10:41] <roob> horde - there is a file called /etc/network/interfaces if your network connection is in there.. then you can use auto to make it come up
[10:41] <norbia> hi
[10:42] <norbia> can anybody tellme how can i use dpkg?
[10:42] <AbortD> wtf warty warthog?
[10:42] <horde> roob: I checked that....all interfaces are set to auto.
[10:42] <dystopianray> norbia: man dpkg
[10:42] <AbortD> whats up with the ridiculous name
[10:42] <Jucato> !dpkg | norbia
[10:42] <ubotu> norbia: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:42] <AbortD> and feisty fawn doesnt sound too cool feisty fox is better
[10:42] <Jucato> bah...
[10:42] <Jucato> norbia: sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb
[10:43] <dystopianray> AbortD: fork ubuntu and introduce names you like better
[10:43] <Jucato> norbia: or just right-click on the .deb file and select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[10:43] <norbia> k
[10:43] <Jucato> AbortD: you can always call it by it's real version name
[10:43] <AbortD> what ubuntu 7.04?/////
[10:44] <Jucato> yes
[10:44] <norbia> i ve got a conant modem i m using Kubuntu 6.06 where can i get the driver?
[10:44] <roob> horde: wireless or wired?
[10:44] <Jucato> !modem
[10:44] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:44] <horde> roob: wireless
[10:44] <roob> encryption?
[10:44] <horde> WEP
[10:44] <roob> (come on man.. you need to be really detailed when asking questions)
[10:44] <AbortD> :|
[10:44] <norbia> i tried with KPPP but it doesnt detect my modem
[10:45] <Contrast83> What's up, everyone?
[10:45] <horde> 64-bit wep?
[10:45] <Jucato> norbia: have you seen that web page ^^^
[10:45] <Contrast83> Are there any Feisty users in here that have had problems with k9copy?
[10:45] <roob> horde: so what do you do to fix it when your pc starts?
[10:45] <horde> roob:  This is my first time in the forums, man.  I'm just starting Linux.
[10:46] <Jucato> Contrast83: try #ubuntu+1 for feisty issues
[10:46] <roob> horde: from how you introduced this.. it sounds like you have gotten it going.. but want it to startup automatically. what do you do to get it going?
[10:46] <Contrast83> Thanks, Jucato.
[10:46] <horde> I go to the wireless assistant, find my network and reconnect manually
[10:47] <horde> wlassistant
[10:47] <roob> you will need to define everything about the wireless interface within /etc/network/interfaces including the wep key
[10:47] <AbortD> can ubuntu get into ntfs file systems?
[10:48] <pirothezero> anyone know how to have split screen in konqueror so that when you open it both screens are on the same directory and not one as a browser and one as a file manager?
[10:48] <horde> auto eth1
[10:48] <norbia> abortdD i dont know the init strings for my modem and the defaults is not working
[10:48] <horde> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:48] <roob> AbortD: yes.. but read only (without alot of work)
[10:48] <Jucato> !ntfs | AbortD
[10:48] <ubotu> AbortD: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:48] <horde> wireless-essid *****
[10:48] <horde> wireless-key s:*****
[10:48] <AbortD> ah cool i could care less about writing for now
[10:48] <AbortD> just want to access my music
[10:49] <AbortD> and i wanted to fucking make the partition fat32 but pt magic hates me
[10:49] <waylandbill> !language
[10:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:49] <Jucato> !language
[10:49] <Jucato> bah :)
[10:49] <Contrast83> pirothezero: Set it the way you want it to look when you open it, then Settings -> Save View Profile, and save it as slick Save
[10:49] <waylandbill> Hiya Jucato
[10:49] <Contrast83> click*
[10:50] <AbortD> yeah yeah yeah i forgot
[10:50] <roob> !fuse
[10:50] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:50] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[10:50] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:50] <pirothezero> ya thats what I been doing, but when i open it up again the top is just a tab for browser and the bottom is the file manager
[10:50] <pirothezero> i just want to tear the browser capability out of it lol
[10:50] <AbortD> i dont want the chance of losing my collections
[10:51] <horde> roob: auto eth1
[10:51] <horde> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:51] <horde> wireless-essid STEAK
[10:51] <horde> wireless-key s:tk421
[10:51] <waylandbill> AbortD: rather than p.m. you may want to use gparted or qparted
[10:51] <dystopianray> AbortD: if you don't want any chance, don't let anything read or write to it, including windows
[10:51] <horde> roob: do I need to define it further?
[10:52] <AbortD> p.m.?
[10:52] <horde> fake essid/key, obviously
[10:55] <waylandbill> AbortD: partition magic.
[10:55] <AbortD> ohhhh
[10:56] <AbortD> can i make a file system fat32 without losing the information in it?
[10:56] <norbia> abortD that page is useless for me
[10:56] <AbortD> norbia
[10:56] <AbortD> why do you keep saying my name?
[10:56] <AbortD> who are you?
[10:57] <norbia> i m human
[10:57] <norbia> i got doubts
[10:57] <waylandbill> AbortD: you mean change the file system? you need to get the data off of it first.
[10:57] <AbortD> waylandbill do you understand this guy?
[10:57] <tony_> How do I get postgres running to allow remote TCP connections or where is the script that starts postgres at bootup
[10:58] <AbortD> thats what i didnt want to do was move the data
[10:58] <AbortD> :P
[10:58] <_BS_> What is the easiest way to get up a windows explorer like file viewer with a directory tree on the right and a multi-column view on the right, with each side synced to the other? (FRUSTRATED!)
[10:58] <waylandbill> AbortD: you'll want to back it up anyway
[10:58] <utnubuk> _BS_ i think wine has something like that built in
[10:58] <AbortD> it is my backup directory :P
[10:59] <waylandbill> AbortD: :)
[10:59] <AbortD> thats what i use to access important files :P
[10:59] <_BS_> utnubuk: Sorry, no, I mean within Kubuntu. Either I can't seem to get Konqueror to behave that way, or I need to use a different app.
[10:59] <pirothezero> anyone know how to take off the google search box in the top right in konqueror?
[10:59] <pirothezero> cant find it anywhere in the customize toolbars
[10:59] <dystopianray> pirothezero: settings -> configure extensions
[11:00] <pirothezero> ty
[11:01] <utnubuk> _BS_ i dont know about using konqueror to get that effect, but wine file does exactly what youre talking about
[11:01] <waylandbill> _BS_: use konqueror's sidebar. It can show a tree view.
[11:01] <AbortD> waylandbill i have one more question i have my windows partition then a partition on the end of my drive can ubuntu go in the middle?
[11:01] <AbortD> bootloader has to be in the beginning doesnt it?
[11:02] <_BS_> waylandbill: I tried that, but even with root I don't get /, and I don't get all the directories. Just those in it's 'wisdom' it chooses to show me.
[11:02] <_BS_> utnubuk: Isn't wine the windows emulator?
[11:02] <waylandbill> AbortD: in the free space, yes. And the boot loader goes in the mbr.
[11:02] <AbortD> ah
[11:02] <AbortD> i havent used ubuntu since the edgy release
[11:02] <AbortD> sorry
[11:03] <utnubuk> _BS_: yup, but i think i somehow got a bunch of dev stuff on my lappy and now a prog called wine file shows up in utilities
[11:03] <waylandbill> wine is not an emulator.
[11:03] <utnubuk> _BS_: but i just checked out what waylandbill said and i see a tree including root without a problem
[11:04] <Jisao> I do to, _BS_
[11:04] <Tm_T> _BS_: http://www.tm-travolta.net/temp/Konqi-split.png
[11:04] <Tm_T> _BS_: like that?
[11:05] <dystopianray> Tm_T: what icon set is that?
[11:05] <Tm_T> dystopianray: Oxygen
[11:05] <utnubuk> Tm_T: sweet desktop man
[11:05] <_BS_> Ok, I go view / show navigation panel. Hit root, and the right shows as I expect. However, in the navigation panel, right under root, I expect to see all the directories I also see on the right. (Am I only seeing mount points?)
[11:05] <dystopianray> Tm_T: even the 'back' 'forward' buttons? :S they are ugly
[11:06] <Tm_T> dystopianray: I am
[11:06] <Tm_T> !hidden
[11:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:06] <Tm_T> _BS_: like that? ;)
[11:06] <dystopianray> Tm_T: you run suse?
[11:07] <dystopianray> _BS_: $ sudo rm /.hidden
[11:07] <Tm_T> dystopianray: nope, just took kickoff
[11:07] <Tm_T> !kickoff
[11:07] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[11:07] <dystopianray> ah
[11:07] <_BS_> Interesting pic, thanks. (Still working on how to get there.) What are the two panels on the right. The tab says they're both the same place, but they're showing different things.
[11:08] <_BS_> I'm misunderstanding something. Show hidden files is already selected.
[11:09] <dystopianray> _BS_: did you delete /.hidden ?
[11:10] <_BS_> Got it. mv .hidden .hiddenNOT - voila. THANK YOU!
[11:10] <_BS_> OH THAT'S IRRITATING!
[11:11] <dystopianray> just delete it
[11:11] <dystopianray> and yes it's very annoying, luckily kubuntu devs came to their senses for 7.04
[11:11] <waylandbill> :)
[11:12] <dystopianray> Tm_T: is that a amarok applet in the lower left corner, and a moodbar on it?
[11:14] <ffffu> hi i need help on the open office ..after installing edgy.. i'm using this open office, but it doesn't spell check.. is it because i didn't install dictionary?
[11:14] <ffffu> if so how do i install?
[11:16] <Bauldrick> Should Knetworkmanager auto detect my setting? I cant seem to configure it
[11:16] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: autodetect what?
[11:17] <Bauldrick> my wirless connection
[11:17] <dystopianray> ffffu: what language dictionary do you want?
[11:17] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: what exactly do you want it to autodetect?
[11:17] <Bauldrick> dyst: I want it to detect my wireless cionnection when Kubuntu starts
[11:18] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: oh, you mean you want knetworkmanager to start automatically when you login?
[11:18] <Bauldrick> dyst: yep thats it, but at the moment I cant even configure it
[11:19] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: edgy or dapper?
[11:19] <ffffu> dystopianray: english - us
[11:19] <ffffu> dystopianray: i set my localle to en already
[11:20] <Bauldrick> dyst:edgy on a laptop, not that that makes a difference?
[11:20] <dystopianray> ffffu: it should have a US english dictionary by default
[11:20] <ffffu> i tried apt-get install myspell-en-us but it says its installed
[11:20] <ffffu> yeah it can spell check but it says all my spells are correct all the time..even if i explicitly spell wrong
[11:20] <dystopianray> ffffu: have you configured OO.org to use the US english language?
[11:20] <ffffu> do u guys get the same problem?
[11:21] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: in what way acn you not configure it?
[11:21] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: it just doens't show any interfaces or something?
[11:22] <Bauldrick> dyst: it sitting in the system tray with an x in it - in its options i cant see any networks
[11:22] <Tm_T> dystopianray: it's amarok itseld
[11:22] <Tm_T> itself
[11:22] <dystopianray> Tm_T: a script you installed within amarok?
[11:22] <Tm_T> dystopianray: no, amarok playerwindow
[11:22] <ffffu> yes i set the language to english-uk
[11:22] <ffffu> uk is fine with me
[11:23] <dystopianray> oh
[11:23] <dystopianray> ffffu: why do you have it set to uk english if you want american spell checking??
[11:23] <orange1> hm
[11:24] <ffffu> i set it to us but its the same......
[11:24] <Bauldrick> dyst:wireless assistant wireless lan manager is controling things at the moment, do they conflict or something?
[11:24] <dystopianray> ffffu: does it have the little 'abc' spell check icon next to the us english setting?
[11:25] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: probably, close wireless assitant
[11:26] <ffffu> under writing aid, i have all the available language ticked
[11:26] <ffffu> one is hunspell spellchecker
[11:26] <ffffu> another is new thesaurus
[11:27] <ffffu> no icons..
[11:27] <KiPSeRoN> hi all i have problem when i try to power on virtual machine i get error "unable to change virtual machine power state:process exited with an error:
[11:27] <KiPSeRoN> End of error message.how can i fix it i run it on kubuntu 6.10
[11:27] <KiPSeRoN>  ?
[11:27] <ffffu> user -d
[11:27] <dystopianray> ffffu: do you have the en-us thesaurus thing installed too?
[11:27] <ffffu> user-defined dictionaries - ubuntu, soffice, ignorealllist, standard english
[11:27] <ffffu> let me check
[11:28] <ffffu> en-us thesaurus package is call what/?
[11:29] <dystopianray> ffffu: grep dpkg -l for en-us
[11:29] <ffffu> openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us is already the newest version.
[11:30] <ffffu> is it some steps i didn't do when installing edgy? i isntalled 3 computers but all doesn't seem to do the spell check properly
[11:31] <ffffu> myspell-en-us is already the newest version.
[11:31] <kraut> moin
[11:31] <ffffu> openoffice.org-help-en-us is already the newest version.
[11:31] <dystopianray> ffffu: try running sudo update-openoffice-dicts
[11:32] <dystopianray> ffffu: also, try running oowriter with sudo then going to 'file -> wizards -> install new dictionaries' then follow the prompts to install what language you want
[11:35] <ffffu> hmm i'm in the screen DicOOo where there's only a cancel button there
[11:35] <ffffu> this is so weird
[11:35] <PhinnFort> how can i temporary turn of caching on a hard-drive
[11:35] <dystopianray> ffffu: the dialog is too small horizontally? happened to me too
[11:36] <PhinnFort> i have an old drive with a broken cache i want to back up
[11:36] <ffffu> i using tab now
[11:36] <ffffu> yeah..too small horizontally
[11:36] <dystopianray> PhinnFort: you can't, it's something the drive does transparently of the OS
[11:36] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: i thought i could control it with hdparm
[11:36] <PhinnFort> turn it off on the drive
[11:37] <dystopianray> ffffu: click on the icon on the top left of hte window title border thing, and go to 'advanced -> special application setting' and then set then force a larger horizontal size of the window
[11:37] <dennis_> hi there, i try to run tremulous on mij pc, but after installation i get nothing but errors... From
[11:37] <dennis_> couldn't exec autogen.cfg
[11:37] <dennis_> couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
[11:37] <dennis_> Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
[11:37] <dennis_> ----- Client Initialization -----
[11:37] <dystopianray> PhinnFort: maybe, try reading the man page
[11:37] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: ok
[11:37] <dennis_> shit, sorry about that
[11:38] <dystopianray> ffffu: installing the dictionary as root means it's installed globally, you can also do it on a per-user basis by doing it as a user
[11:39] <ffffu> i'm on the fetch list or something
[11:39] <ffffu> but doesn't have anything
[11:39] <dystopianray> you have to click the button to fetch the list
[11:39] <dystopianray> and then select the dictionary you want
[11:40] <dystopianray> ffffu: did you force the window size to be greater so you can see everything?
[11:41] <ffffu> i click on retrieve the list.. nothing happened, after awhile the window closed..nope can't force the window size its locked
[11:41] <ffffu> DicOOo 1.5.5
[11:41] <ffffu> set /etc/openoffice/dictionary.1st to +r for all
[11:41] <dystopianray> ffffu: it's not locked, click on the icon on the left of the window border heading, click 'advanced -> speical application settings' and force the window to a greater size
[11:43] <ExpositionOfEvil> can someone help me
[11:43] <ExpositionOfEvil> with my http server
[11:43] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: you have to tell us the problem first
[11:43] <ExpositionOfEvil> ok
[11:43] <unix_infidel> anyone here done a herd to beta distupgrade yet?
[11:43] <ExpositionOfEvil> when I connect to my server I get my linksys settings
[11:43] <ExpositionOfEvil> ...
[11:43] <PhinnFort> hmm, i get "dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error" every 946 kb until about 2 mb
[11:44] <dystopianray> PhinnFort: drive sounds pretty screwed
[11:44] <ExpositionOfEvil> has never happened to me before
[11:44] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: how are you connecting to it? are you connecting via a lan? or over the internet?
[11:44] <ExpositionOfEvil> lan
[11:44] <ExpositionOfEvil> before I could connect to it
[11:44] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: are you connecting ot the right ip address?
[11:44] <ExpositionOfEvil> yes
[11:44] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: it's the old drive from my 486, i thought maybe i could play around with it in qemu
[11:45] <ffffu> ic got the size right now..
[11:45] <ExpositionOfEvil> and linksys comes up on my computer ip
[11:45] <ExpositionOfEvil> not my net ip
[11:45] <ffffu> its connecting to server coutning down 5..4..
[11:45] <ffffu> and hang
[11:45] <ffffu> hmmm!!!!!
[11:45] <dystopianray> ffffu: just wait
[11:45] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: are you absolutely certain that you have the correct ip??
[11:45] <ExpositionOfEvil> yes
[11:45] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: try going to http://localhost
[11:46] <ExpositionOfEvil> unknown
[11:46] <ExpositionOfEvil> thats wierd
[11:46] <orange1> someone say my name
[11:46] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: try changing the IP of your router
[11:46] <PhinnFort> orange1 is a prick
[11:46] <PhinnFort> :D
[11:46] <orange1> ....
[11:46] <ExpositionOfEvil> reset?
[11:47] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: no, change the ip
[11:47] <dystopianray> what happens if you browse to you router's ip?
[11:47] <ExpositionOfEvil> I get the settings
[11:47] <ffffu> waiting..
[11:47] <ExpositionOfEvil> then if I got my other ip its the same
[11:47] <dystopianray> PhinnFort: that's likely to break his entire network
[11:47] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: do you have some crazy iptables rule that is redirecting incoming connections?
[11:47] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: he can change it back afterwards
[11:47] <ExpositionOfEvil> I got no iptables set
[11:48] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: try to flush your iptables
[11:48] <PhinnFort> sudo iptables -F
[11:48] <ExpositionOfEvil> yep
[11:49] <ExpositionOfEvil> no output
[11:49] <PhinnFort> still happens?
[11:49] <ExpositionOfEvil> let me see
[11:49] <PhinnFort> it shouldn't
[11:49] <ExpositionOfEvil> yup
[11:49] <AniHatzis> Today I experience often trouble to launch some of my applications: Kontact, Konqueror, KWallet. They start (I can see the processes), but I can't see dialogs in KDE. I have to reboot or restart session... not sure what exactly helps (sometimes nothing of both)
[11:49] <ExpositionOfEvil> its asking for authorization to access router configs
[11:49] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: i assume the webserver is on your local machine?
[11:49] <ExpositionOfEvil> yes
[11:49] <PhinnFort> what happens when you try to go to 127.0.0.1?
[11:50] <AniHatzis> Kubuntu 6.10
[11:50] <ExpositionOfEvil> problem
[11:50] <PhinnFort> ?
[11:50] <ExpositionOfEvil> unable to access
[11:50] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: are you sure your webserver is running?
[11:50] <PhinnFort> sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[11:51] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: what ip address is it that you think is yours?
[11:51] <ExpositionOfEvil> private =)
[11:51] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: also, do an ifconfig -a
[11:51] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: if you type in your external IP, you will get the router
[11:51] <PhinnFort> because it's the router that's handling it
[11:51] <dystopianray> no I want the internal lan ip
[11:51] <PhinnFort> *s/dystopianray/exposition
[11:51] <ExpositionOfEvil> 192?
[11:52] <ExpositionOfEvil> 192.128.1.105
[11:52] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: your public/external/internet ip will always get you to your router
[11:52] <PhinnFort> or it should
[11:52] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: yes, what is the ip address that you think is yours
[11:52] <orange1> where are all the sounds stored ?
[11:52] <orange1> soundfiles
[11:52] <dystopianray> orange1: sounds for what?
[11:52] <PhinnFort> orange1: /usr/share/sounds maybe?
[11:52] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: what ip does your router have?
[11:52] <orange1> PhinnFort: thanks ....pri....
[11:52] <PhinnFort> np
[11:52] <ExpositionOfEvil> uhh
[11:53] <ExpositionOfEvil> ohh
[11:53] <ExpositionOfEvil> 192.168.1.102
[11:53] <ExpositionOfEvil> inet address
[11:53] <dystopianray> what happens if visit 192.168.1.102?
[11:53] <waylandbill> 192.168.1.1 usually what linksys routers are factory set for.
[11:54] <ExpositionOfEvil> lol
[11:54] <ExpositionOfEvil> my site
[11:54] <ExpositionOfEvil> thats local only tho
[11:54] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: try using a php proxy to test your site from the outside
[11:54] <PhinnFort> worldwideproxy.com or similar
[11:54] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: oh, you mean your router config is coming up on your external ip?
[11:54] <ExpositionOfEvil> yes
[11:55] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: sounds like you have your router configured to allow remote administration
[11:55] <dystopianray> ExpositionOfEvil: what is the model of the router?
[11:55] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: he is on the inside
[11:55] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: that wouldn't be remote
[11:55] <ExpositionOfEvil> wrt54gl
[11:55] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: try going to worldwideproxy.com and entering your IP
[11:56] <ExpositionOfEvil> k
[11:56] <dystopianray> is his router config appearing on his external ip?
[11:56] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: only when on the inside, probably
[11:56] <PhinnFort> i have experienced the same thing
[11:56] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: what do you get?
[11:56] <ExpositionOfEvil> connection timed out
[11:57] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: your router doesn't allow remote administration;)
[11:57] <ExpositionOfEvil> err
[11:58] <ExpositionOfEvil> so if u connected to my site it would bring up the router
[11:58] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: it would time out
[11:58] <PhinnFort> ExpositionOfEvil: you haven't set up forwaring
[11:58] <PhinnFort> *forwarding
[11:58] <ExpositionOfEvil> hmm
[11:58] <ExpositionOfEvil> what port?
[11:58] <PhinnFort> on your router
[11:58] <PhinnFort> 80
[11:58] <ExpositionOfEvil> thanks
[11:58] <PhinnFort> np
[11:59] <ExpositionOfEvil> aye
[11:59] <ExpositionOfEvil> I think I disabled that
[11:59] <ExpositionOfEvil> I had that port set but disabled
[11:59] <PhinnFort> ok
[11:59] <PhinnFort> try going to worldwideproxy again
[11:59] <ExpositionOfEvil> thank you soo much!
[11:59] <ExpositionOfEvil> works
[11:59] <PhinnFort> if it is working, you should be getting your site;)
[12:00] <PhinnFort> you are very welcome;)
[12:00] <ExpositionOfEvil> =)
[12:00] <ExpositionOfEvil> good night
[12:00] <PhinnFort> nighty night
[12:00] <PhinnFort> wtf
[12:00] <dystopianray> hehe
[12:00] <PhinnFort> is hdparm's good by default, in kubuntu?
[12:00] <dystopianray> with himself no doubt
[12:01] <PhinnFort> or his right hand
[12:01] <dystopianray> PhinnFort: you're having trouble with it?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: it's just a bit sluggish
[12:03] <jeanmass> good night
[12:03] <jeanmass> i've problems when to open wengophone
[12:04] <zbenjamin> hi @ all
[12:04] <jeanmass> ./wengophone: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:04] <zbenjamin> is it possible to only allow root to change the system?
[12:05] <Jucato> !sudo | zbenjamin
[12:05] <ubotu> zbenjamin: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:06] <dystopianray> zbenjamin: you want to turn off sudo?
[12:08] <Jucato> root is really the only one that can change the system. sudo is a way to sort of temporarily give you root privileges.
[12:09] <|orange|> hm
[12:09] <zbenjamin> dystopianray, i want that you can get root privileges only with the root password
[12:09] <dystopianray> zbenjamin: give root a password and don't put anyone in the admin group
[12:09] <Jucato> zbenjamin: read that link above then
[12:09] <|orange|> how can i tell if i have edgy or fiesty?
[12:10] <zbenjamin> thanks for your help
[12:10] <Jucato> |orange|: lsb_release -
[12:10] <Jucato> |orange|: lsb_release -a
[12:11] <|orange|> Jucato: thanks
[12:14] <AniHatzis> Kubuntu 6.10: Since today I experience massive problems to launch apps (Konqueror, KWallet, Kontact,...). Processes are started, but no dialogs appear after "launch feedback" shown.
[12:15] <|orange|> Jucato: how would i go about recovering some deleted files (drive was formatted)
[12:15] <Jucato> hm? if you formatted the drive, I don't think you can recover files from it
[12:15] <Jucato> not without specialized software
[12:16] <_4strO> it's possbile with some soft
[12:16] <_4strO> but dont know in linux
[12:16] <|orange|> i know getbackdataNTFS for windows but nix.. no idea
[12:16] <Jucato> yeah, like I said, specialized software :)
[12:16] <_4strO> mmm
[12:17] <_4strO> i have an idea where to find one :p
[12:17] <|orange|> where
[12:18] <epimeth> ahoy folks!
[12:18] <dystopianray> use foremost to recover data
[12:18] <epimeth> good command line torrent program anyone?
[12:19] <chijin> rtorrent
[12:19] <_4strO> Jucato: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[12:19] <dystopianray> rtorrent
[12:20] <epimeth> cheers dystopianray
[12:20] <dystopianray> testdisk doesn't recover files
[12:20] <|orange|> if i wanted to get online at my school's limited connection but use my home pc's internet while at school -- what would i need to research
[12:20] <dystopianray> |orange|: http://foremost.sourceforge.net/
[12:21] <|orange|> dystopianray: apt-get is installing some things for me -- adept should have foremost right?
[12:21] <dystopianray> |orange|: do you have to go through a proxy at school?
[12:21] <dystopianray> |orange|: no idea, I only use the cli tools
[12:21] <mikehunt> any java programmers in here?
[12:21] <dystopianray> mikehunt: what sort of problem are you having?
[12:21] <|orange|> mikehunt: depends - how good do i have to be
[12:21] <epimeth> mikehunt: me
[12:22] <|orange|> dystopianray: thats what im tryin to recover - my java projects
[12:22] <epimeth> |orange|: what do you mean by 'foremost' ?
[12:22] <dystopianray> epimeth: it's a tool to recover data from drives
[12:23] <ubuntu> hi
[12:23] <epimeth> dystopianray: oh...lol... missed your previous post
[12:23] <epimeth> anybody heard of the Easy Star All-Stars?
[12:24] <mikehunt2> I have an ArrayList<javax.mail.search.SearchTerm> and trying to get an array out of it, with toArray(), but there's some kind of casting problem
[12:24] <|orange|> ubuntu ultimate has quite the gloomy look
[12:25] <boidoc> anyone know the way to fix an error 21 with grub
[12:25] <epimeth> |oran
[12:26] <mikehunt2> specifically this:  ArrayList<SearchTerm> terms = new ArrayList<SearchTerm>();  //  then I add the terms to ArrayList  ;  SearchTerm query = new AndTerm((SearchTerm[] ) terms.toArray());
[12:26] <epimeth> |orange|: what, exactly, is the error and the line?
[12:26] <|orange|> epimeth: u mean boidoc?
[12:27] <mikehunt2> it compiles fine but throws an error in Tomcat
[12:28] <epimeth> SearchTerm is not of type Array
[12:28] <epimeth> it compiles???  thats shocking
[12:28] <mikehunt2> ....
[12:28] <epimeth> |orange|: boidoc?
[12:29] <mikehunt2> an ArrayList of SearchTerm will return an array of SearchTerm's with the toArray() method
[12:29] <_4strO> epimeth: what about easy start allstar ?
[12:29] <_4strO> epimeth: what about easy star allstar ?
[12:29] <epimeth> _4strO: was at there concert last night... just excited about it :-)
[12:29] <jeanmass> i've problems when to open wengophone
[12:29] <jeanmass> ./wengophone: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:30] <jeanmass> i downloaded the deb from their website
[12:30] <_4strO> epimeth: they play dark side of the moon in dub version ?
[12:30] <_4strO> funny a friend just give me the CD yesterday :p
[12:31] <zbenjamin> jeanmass, it seems that the libssl.so.0.9.7 library is not installed on your system
[12:31] <epimeth> mikehunt2; SearchTerm is not of type SearchTerm[] 
[12:32] <boidoc> stage 1.5
[12:32] <boidoc> GRUB loading stage1.5
[12:32] <boidoc> 
[12:32] <boidoc> 
[12:32] <boidoc>  GRUB loading, please wa
[12:32] <jeanmass> shouldnt it be automaticaly installeD?
[12:32] <boidoc> sorry for thqt
[12:32] <zbenjamin> jeanette_,
[12:32] <zbenjamin> jeanette_, sorry wrong nick
[12:32] <jeanmass> i tried sudo apt-get libssl.so.0.9.7
[12:32] <boidoc> thenm error 21
[12:32] <jeanmass> i tried sudo apt-get install libssl.so.0.9.7
[12:33] <jeanmass> but do not work
[12:33] <epimeth> _4strO: select songs... they played about equal parts dub side, radiodread, and their own stuff
[12:33] <zbenjamin> jeanmass, it should but maybe they forgot something look in your lib directories if you find libssl
[12:33] <zbenjamin> /usr/lib /usr/local/lib
[12:33] <jeanmass> ok
[12:34] <jeanmass> there is /usr/lib/ssl
[12:34] <rickympl> hello everyone, i'm having trouble with my kde taskbar, sometimes even though I close a window o program, that window remains in the taskbar, i can't close it or do anything with it, it just remains there and after a while it disppears
[12:35] <dystopianray> jeanmass: libssl0.9.7
[12:35] <jeanmass> dystopianray: ?
[12:36] <dystopianray> jeanmass: install that package
[12:36] <zbenjamin> jeanette_, you can do a apt-cache search libssl and the how the package is named
[12:36] <jeanmass> ok dystopianray
[12:36] <zbenjamin> jeanette_, wrong nick again... my keyboard must be broken ... sorry again
[12:37] <zbenjamin> jeanmass, the apt-cache search tip was for you
[12:37] <|orange|> it takes 45s to boot up to login -- but once i install ndiswrapper + wifi drivers - it takes almost 4 minutes... during bootup i hit ALT+1 to see whats loading -- its just scanning hd as
[12:37] <jeanmass> zbenjamin: i dont know what that is
[12:37] <|orange|> normal but takes 3-4x longer
[12:38] <zbenjamin> jeanmass,  a command line programm like apt-get
[12:38] <jeanmass> sudo apt-caches search libssl?
[12:38] <zbenjamin> apt-cache
[12:38] <jeanmass> and it gives me a similar package?
[12:38] <zbenjamin> that should give you the name of the libssl package
[12:38] <jeanmass> excenlent!
[12:38] <_4strO> !apt-cache | jeanmass
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <jeanmass> i installed the missing library
[12:38] <_4strO> !apt | jeanmass
[12:38] <ubotu> jeanmass: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:38] <hacked_kernel> I get this error when opening synaptic "
[12:38] <hacked_kernel> E: The package conexant needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:38] <hacked_kernel> E: Internal error opening cache (1)
[12:38] <jeanmass> and now wengophone works!
[12:39] <dystopianray> jeanmass: you installed what I suggested?
[12:39] <|orange|> !eclipse
[12:39] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[12:40] <epimeth> |orange|: eclipse is pretty good...
[12:41] <|orange|> epimeth: yep - i like it
[12:41] <|orange|> hm
[12:43] <jeanmass> dystopianray: yes, the missing lib
[12:43] <jeanmass> thanx mate
[12:47] <mikehunt3> anybody like the scissor sisters?
[12:48] <pc2> hey guys
[12:48] <pc2> i have a ask.....
[12:48] <_4strO> hey
[12:48] <pc2> one ask
[12:48] <pc2> i can.....??
[12:48] <_4strO> no ... bye see ya ...
[12:49] <_4strO> :p
[12:49] <pc2> :)
[12:49] <pc2> astro
[12:49] <pc2> i need install amsn on my box
[12:49] <pc2> but
[12:49] <pc2> not have a password of root
[12:49] <pc2> u can help me??
[12:50] <Nullbyte> Whats the problem, pc2?
[12:50] <_4strO> pc2: think it's not possible
[12:50] <pc2> [12:49]  <pc2> i need install amsn on my box
[12:50] <pc2> [12:49]  <pc2> but
[12:50] <pc2> [12:49]  <pc2> not have a password of root
[12:50] <Nullbyte> use sudo?
[12:50] <pc2> mmm
[12:50] <pascal> How do I copy users from one ubuntu machine to another... Just the users, not the files
[12:50] <epimeth> pc2: what happens when you type 'sudo echo "test"' in the command line (without ')
[12:50] <pc2> i have a kde 3.5
[12:51] <hsystem-x> or you can use passwd with sudo and set a password for root ^^
[12:51] <epimeth> pc2: and then enter your passwrod
[12:51] <dystopianray> pascal: you want to mass copy a bunch of users?
[12:51] <hsystem-x> then do a su ^^
[12:51] <waylandbill> !sudo
[12:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:51] <pascal> dystropianrey yes
[12:51] <pc2> the command for sett sudo password??
[12:51] <pascal> dystropianray yes
[12:51] <Nullbyte> So, does anyone know how I make ripping CDs faster? x)
[12:52] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: buy a faster cdrom drive
[12:52] <pc2> hehe
[12:52] <_4strO> lol
[12:52] <waylandbill> :)
[12:52] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: Its not that easy, sadly
[12:52] <pascal> dystopianray Do you know how to do it?
[12:52] <_4strO> pascal : you can copy /etc/passwd
[12:52] <hsystem-x> ok you can use sudo with your password. That will give you privileges to do what you want to do. But you also can assign a password for the root account.
[12:52] <hsystem-x> Making sudo passwd
[12:53] <hsystem-x> that will ask you for a password.
[12:53] <dystopianray> pascal: copying /etc/passwd might work.. if the systems are identical enough
[12:53] <pascal> dystopianray I don't need to do any more?
[12:53] <pascal> they are
[12:53] <pascal> top dollar :-) Thanks
[12:53] <dystopianray> pascal: /etc/shadow will need updating too
[12:53] <waylandbill> isn't /etc/passwd shadowed though?
[12:53] <_4strO> pascal : u will only have the account on each box
[12:53] <dystopianray> pascal: and /etc/group
[12:53] <waylandbill> :)
[12:53] <pascal> how?
[12:54] <_4strO> not the home dir
[12:54] <hsystem-x> then if you do that, you can login in the console as root.
[12:54] <pabst> does anyone use Automatix?
[12:54] <hsystem-x> making su.
[12:54] <waylandbill> !automatix | pabst
[12:54] <ubotu> pabst: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:54] <epimeth> pc2: you really don't have to set the roort password... in fact, you probably shouldn't.
[12:54] <epimeth> pc2: its best to just use sudo
[12:54] <epimeth> pc2: when it asks for a password, it is *your* password, not root
[12:54] <pabst> thanks
[12:54] <pascal> dystopianray. So I copy passwd group and shadow. Do I need to run any command afterwards?
[12:55] <hsystem-x> yeah but sometimes is annoying to do all the time sudo :S.
[12:55] <hsystem-x> i personally use sudo.
[12:55] <pc2> yes but i dont have a passwor of this machine
[12:55] <pc2> do u understand??
[12:55] <_4strO> lol
[12:55] <Nullbyte> Did you steal it? o_
[12:55] <waylandbill> pc2: I don't recommend setting a root password. you can always use sudo -i or sudo -s if you need to do alot of commands
[12:55] <_4strO> he cant...
[12:55] <pc2> mmm i try
[12:55] <dystopianray> pascal: and /etc/group
[12:55] <Nullbyte> Well, he can crack the password too
[12:56] <dystopianray> pascal: I would diff these files to see exactly what is different, randomly coyp these files could break things
[12:56] <pascal> dystopianray: ok
[12:56] <dystopianray> crack a password? just boot a livecd, chroot and run 'passwd'
[12:56] <pc2> i can crack the password of root??
[12:56] <Nullbyte> Thats not always a possibility :B
[12:57] <pc2> and in my situation??
[12:57] <dystopianray> pc2: do you own this machine?
[12:57] <epimeth> pc2: then how are you using the machine?
[12:57] <Nullbyte> Yes you can, but doing it the livecd way is easier, in your case
[12:57] <Nullbyte> Oh yeah, and how did you log in?
[12:57] <pc2> i dont own this machine
[12:58] <hsystem-x> ohh ^^
[12:58] <Tirant> estoy o no estoy ???
[12:58] <pc2> i am a normal client in this machine
[12:58] <hsystem-x> estas.
[12:58] <Nullbyte> Then you shouldnt install stuff on it, pc2
[12:58] <pc2> exact
[12:58] <Tirant> la verdad es que no se donde estoy
[12:58] <dystopianray> pc2: you will likely be disciplined for install software, if you need something, ask the admins
[12:58] <hsystem-x> Irc, canal de Kubuntu.
[12:58] <pc2> tirant abla espanol??
[12:58] <Tirant> es la primera vez que conecto esto
[12:59] <_4strO> Nullbyte: that the reason why he haven't the root paqsswd :p
[12:59] <Nullbyte> 4strO: orly
[12:59] <Tirant> si, hablo espaol
[12:59] <hsystem-x> este es el canal para suppor de kubuntu
[12:59] <hsystem-x> support*
[12:59] <Nullbyte> I guess so too, orange
[12:59] <waylandbill> pc2: if it's someone else's machine, maybe they can install it.
[12:59] <_4strO> !es | hsystem-x
[12:59] <ubotu> hsystem-x: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:59] <elbing> Tirant, come with us to #kubuntu-es. There we talk spanish xD
[12:59] <Tirant> como puedo seleccionar el canal al que quiero ir ?
[01:00] <|orange|> !spanish
[01:00] <elbing> type /join #channel
[01:00] <Tirant> vale, gracias
[01:00] <elbing> ;)
[01:00] <hsystem-x> lol ^^
[01:00] <hsystem-x> i prefer english ^^
[01:00] <|orange|> lol
[01:01] <|orange|> hsystem-x: so do i
[01:01] <elbing> hey khaled mardam bey has the blame. With mirc most of people have not idea about IRC
[01:01] <|orange|> dystopianray: foremost - have u used it before?
[01:01] <epimeth> !he
[01:01] <ubotu>         :
[01:01] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[01:02] <dystopianray> |orange|: no
[01:03] <|orange|> how can i tell if a process is taking up juice?
[01:03] <elbing> what kind of juice? orange juice?
[01:03] <waylandbill> top
[01:03] <|orange|> elbing: sure
[01:03] <chijin> IRC was originally invented in the city i live in
[01:03] <elbing> heh
[01:03] <hsystem-x> ^^
[01:03] <|orange|> elbing: if its taking resources
[01:04] <elbing> chijin, and can you sleep knowing that?
[01:04] <chijin> elbing: heh
[01:04] <hsystem-x> you can open KSysGuard to see how much resources a process is taking.
[01:04] <epimeth> waylandbill: was that purposely obscure? :-)
[01:04] <epimeth> |orange|: top
[01:05] <elbing> or ps -A, and maybe viewing /proc
[01:05] <waylandbill> epimeth: not purposefully. :D
[01:05] <|orange|> epimeth: oo u meant top as in a command -- i just ignored it before
[01:05] <hsystem-x> it is located on the system section in the K menu ^^
[01:05] <epimeth> waylandbill: if I didn't know any better, i'd have thought you were directing me to see above... at the *best* case :-)
[01:06] <epimeth> |orange|: yes :-)
[01:06] <elbing> very nice program, top
[01:06] <waylandbill> ksysguard's process tab can be brought up by simply hitting ctrl-esc
[01:06] <hsystem-x> ^^
[01:06] <|orange|> top is telling me that kvirc is taking 100% cpu usage
[01:07] <elbing> yes, but we love konsole xD
[01:07] <|orange|> cant be right..
[01:07] <waylandbill> maybe next time I'll just say 'man top
[01:07] <waylandbill> or just obfuscate it. :-)
[01:07] <elbing> re ernesto
[01:07] <JohnFlux> |orange|: you should be using konversation :-D
[01:07] <epimeth> waylandbill: isn't that how it normally is, tho?  I enjoy it the other way, but the classics are often best :-)
[01:08] <hsystem-x> ^^.
[01:08] <elbing> of course: I prefer casablanca before gladiator
[01:08] <elbing> :p
[01:08] <epimeth> |orange|: its called leakage... not everyone makes high quality software
[01:08] <elbing> one vote for classics
[01:08] <hsystem-x> automatix have been down a while. LOL
[01:08] <|orange|> JohnFlux: lol yes yes - but i found this already (preinstalled) on the desktop - it looks like a nice client
[01:09] <waylandbill> when konversation is mdi, I'll then use it.
[01:09] <epimeth> |orange|: you just *had* to be different, didn't you?!? well *that* is the price you pay, my friend!
[01:09] <Jucato> waylandbill: better start filing that wish then :P
[01:09] <|orange|> ubuntu ultimate ... gnome based but filled with kde progs
[01:09] <epimeth> Jucato! whened you get here?
[01:09] <pc2> hey guys but the command for identify in this server?'
[01:09] <Jucato> epimeth: when you weren't looking (hiding behind JohnFlux
[01:10] <waylandbill> Jucato: no doubt
[01:10] <|orange|> let me restart kvirc - brb
[01:10] <epimeth> pc2: que???
[01:10] <maki> i run autoremove and then i reinstall systemsettings and kcontrol but i dont have some options
[01:10] <pc2> the command for identify.....
[01:10] <elbing> type /msg NickSrv IDENTIFY or look ate MOTD for one time in your life
[01:10] <rickympl> !version
[01:10] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[01:10] <Jucato>  <-- |orange| has left this server ("KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/"). <--- Anomalies? no wonder it was eating up the cpu :)
[01:11] <epimeth> elbing: don't be mean!
[01:11] <elbing> ok I'll shut up
[01:11] <epimeth> pc2: /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD
[01:12] <elbing> I hate you epimeth
[01:12] <pc2> [Errore]  NickSrv: nessun nick/canale con questo nome
[01:12] <pc2> ??
[01:13] <orange1> now trying xchat - seems to be popular in add/remove list
[01:13] <chijin> nickserv, not nicksrv
[01:13] <epimeth> pc2: necesitas hacer registration
[01:13] <elbing> hey hear chijin, in his town they invented IRC :p
[01:13] <chijin> elbing: i actually study in the department where irc was born!
[01:13] <CarinArr> er bleh
[01:13] <CarinArr> in #irchelp i was going to say
[01:14] <CarinArr> sucks when you're being sarcastic and hit the wrong key
[01:14] <elbing> chijin: telll to God about poor people in this channel :p
[01:14] <elbing> s/telll/tell
[01:16] <dystopianray> maybe he has a fench keyboard, and the # is on the R key or something
[01:16] <dystopianray> french *
[01:16] <CarinArr> epimeth: uk keyboard
[01:17] <epimeth> Jucato: *that* kills me... and mine is not, too! I keep hitting ctrl pageup trying to raise the volume... mine is between lcrtl and 'windows' buttin
[01:17] <pc2> hey guys if i dont remember my password to acces at server??
[01:17] <epimeth> s/buttin/button
[01:17] <elbing> chijin: ist hot in Finland these days?
[01:17] <CarinArr> should be right left of the enter key, but this keyboard has it above the enter key and has the enter key double width
[01:17] <epimeth> CarinArr: I take part in your misery and sorrow... my friend has one of those
[01:17] <elbing> pc2: take paper an a pencil, write your password and give it to your mom. It's the very best backup you can do
[01:17] <stefano_> help me
[01:18] <CarinArr> actually.. it's not the uk keyboard that's the problem, all my keyboards are uk ones, just this one has moved the  key;)
[01:18] <epimeth> stefano_: yes, sir!
[01:18] <pc2> elbing fuck
[01:18] <epimeth> CarinArr: then I pity you and your foreign ways
[01:18] <elbing> ah man, don angry with me :p
[01:18] <CarinArr> better than the thinkpad that has the fn key at the bottom left corner instead of ctrl
[01:18] <epimeth> pc2: language!
[01:18] <epimeth> !language
[01:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:18] <myTB|Tanuva> hmm.. Ive just booted may sys and emerald wont start anymore, but beryl itself does... Trying to start it manually (emeral --replace) results in... nothing...
[01:18] <elbing> I'm sorry pc2, it was just a joke
[01:18] <myTB|Tanuva> *my
[01:18] <pc2> ok
[01:19] <myTB|Tanuva> any idea how to get it to work again?
[01:19] <pc2> yes
[01:19] <pc2> help me for example
[01:20] <CarinArr> myTB|Tanuva: have you tried moving the .emerald folder temporarily to see if it's a setting in there causing the problem?
[01:20] <myTB|Tanuva> no. gonna try that...
[01:20] <elbing> maybe dpkg reconfigure emerald
[01:20] <epimeth> pc2: no recuardas el password, o no registrar el usario?
[01:21] <Jucato> !es
[01:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:21] <myTB|Tanuva> I could make aptitude do a complete reinstall, but that wouldnt be the nice way...
[01:21] <epimeth> Jucato: fine... I'll pm him :-p
[01:21] <CarinArr> myTB|Tanuva: normally it's just a setting somewhere messing things up
[01:21] <Jucato> epimeth: actually, you could just bring him over to those -es channels :)
[01:22] <epimeth> Jucato: foreign channels! never!
[01:22] <Jucato> O.o
[01:22] <epimeth> pc2: come to #kubuntu-es... jucato will kick me if I keep talking en espanol :-)
[01:22] <pc2> epimeth i dont remember the passwor
[01:22] <Jucato> pc2: oh that's a problem...
[01:22] <elbing> epimeth: I can see you in kubuntu-es :p (ooops, I forgot back my hole)
[01:22] <pc2> yes
[01:23] <myTB|Tanuva> CarinArr: the problem may be caused by the new xorg.conf written by the nvidia-configuration-thing - it also made xorg use a us kb layout...
[01:23] <CarinArr> myTB|Tanuva: it might have wiped the ARB setting thing
[01:24] <myTB|Tanuva> yea that could be the prob, taking a look at the config..
[01:24] <pc2> if i have lost the password... for rescue???
[01:24] <CarinArr> er argb even
[01:25] <ThomasZ> I'm running kubuntu-edgy with libc 2.4-1ubuntu12.3   I'm wondering if there are known problems since my own software started to crash in things like malloc() (according to gdb)
[01:25] <myTB|Tanuva> yep the special settings are gone, need to set them again.
[01:25] <pc2> jucanto
[01:25] <pc2> jucato
[01:25] <CarinArr> pc2: when did you last use the nickname?
[01:25] <pc2> one day
[01:26] <Jucato> pc2: sorry, no idea. if you lost it
[01:26] <pc2> it possible?'
[01:26] <CarinArr> pc2: bleep wrong answer.. have you tried getting your own nickname instead of using someone elses?
[01:26] <pc2> its very simplex ptoblem
[01:26] <pc2> no no i dont remember .....
[01:27] <pc2> the my nick name register is elm4t4d0r
[01:27] <pc2> but i dont remember passwoer
[01:27] <pc2> password
[01:27] <epimeth> pc2: speak to ompaul, he'll set everything up for you
[01:27] <CarinArr> pc2: this really isn't a helpchannel for this sort of problem
[01:28] <Jucato> that is not a "simple" problem
[01:28] <elbing> http://www.freenode.net
[01:28] <epimeth> you talk to him by typing /msg ompaul "your message"
[01:28] <pc2> epimeth yes but if o dont register it i dont can speak
[01:30] <epimeth> pc2: have you tried?
[01:30] <epimeth> pc2: I think you can talk to staffers even unregistered
[01:31] <rigved> Nullbyte: hey
[01:31] <rigved> Nullbyte: I wrote to u on gmail with some ebooks... the mail just bounced back
[01:32] <rigved> Nullbyte: Are u there brother
[01:32] <Nullbyte> rigved: Oh, dang
[01:32] <rigved> Nullbyte: how u doing
[01:33] <Nullbyte> rigved: Quite well! Cant we talk in some channel? :)
[01:33] <rigved> Nullbyte: does gmail not accept chm attachments
[01:33] <rigved> sure
[01:33] <Nullbyte> #rigved?
[01:34] <waylandbill> if it doesn't, gzip tarball them. :-)
[01:34] <Nullbyte> good idea :o
[01:34] <rigved> ya
[01:36] <tackat> Ok, I uploaded Marble to kde-apps: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Marble+-+Desktop+Globe?content=55105
[01:52] <[pyro] > oops ran my machine out of space
[01:52] <[pyro] > time to burn some dvd's
[01:56] <frojnd> why is my usb 2GB space so slow?
[01:57] <frojnd> do I have to install some aditional drivers for that kind of USB ?
[01:58] <AniHatzis> !kdesu
[01:58] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:58] <frojnd> !usb stick
[01:58] <myTB|Tanuva> frojnd: I dont know if it applies to usb drives, too, but you may try enabling dma mode
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb stick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <frojnd> !dma
[01:59] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[01:59] <AniHatzis> !x
[01:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:59] <tavanu> xvbcv
[02:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  :)
[02:05] <N6REJ> morning all
[02:05] <AniHatzis> !kio_file
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kio_file - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <AniHatzis> !kio
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <AniHatzis> hi :)
[02:05] <N6REJ> anyone know what "umb upper memory limit =ece6" means?
[02:06] <AniHatzis> !kdeinit
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdeinit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <LjL> !pm the bot
[02:06] <Jucato> !botabuse | AniHatzis
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pm the bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <ubotu> AniHatzis: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:06] <AniHatzis> sorry
[02:06] <LjL> !pm the bot is <alias> botabuse
[02:06] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[02:07] <LjL> and do see !bot, there are facilities for searching for factoids
[02:07] <LjL> !find kdeinit | or files
[02:07] <AniHatzis> LjL: sorry again, and thanks
[02:07] <ubotu> or files: File kdeinit found in kdelibs-dbg, kdelibs4c2a, kdelibs5
[02:10] <lucas_> Hi
[02:11] <lucas_> I'm looking for the feisty's channel ?
[02:12] <stdin> lucas_: #ubuntu+1 and #kubuntu-devel (for kubuntu specific)
[02:12] <AniHatzis> i think #kubuntu+1
[02:12] <Jucato> #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <AniHatzis> ok :)
[02:13] <lucas_> k because kubuntu+1 seems to be empty
[02:13] <lucas_> thank you
[02:14] <Nullbyte> Do any of you guys know anything about DRI on ATI cards? :x
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Nullbyte, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[02:16] <AniHatzis> Any idea where I can learn why some of my KDE apps are not launched with a window and others do..., e.g. Konqueror has no dialog if started as normal user, but with kdesu it works fine.
[02:18] <BluesKaj> Nullbyte , then ch.oose "Instructions for 6.10 (Edgy)"
[02:18] <BluesKaj> err choose
[02:18] <dystopianray> AniHatzis: are there any errors in ~/.xsession-errors? or if you run the apps from a terminal, is there any error output?
[02:19] <Nullbyte> Thanks BluesKaj, but I kind of tried that
[02:19] <AniHatzis> dystopianray: I tried from terminal: no error output. no message. nothing. There is the cursor idling, like the same as it would work. but no dialog.
[02:20] <Mena> !fiesty
[02:20] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:23] <Mena> Hi
[02:24] <Mena> I installed Xp again after linux but this time i know the steps to enable the grub and i did it and nothing happned any idea ?
[02:25] <raffytaffy> anyone haveany clue as to how to find out my ISP's MTU?
[02:26] <dystopianray> raffytaffy: ring them and ask
[02:26] <raffytaffy> ok thanks. since were are on the subject of MTU ..can a router with a MTU to high or to low cause itself to drop connection?
[02:26] <AbortD> kubuntu is reading my wireless card but when i try to connect it says failed anyone know y?
[02:26] <MinceR> you could try pinging one of their routers with increasing packet sizes with the no fragment bit set
[02:27] <MinceR> there are probably programs to do this already
[02:27] <dystopianray> AbortD: what wireless card do you have?
[02:27] <AbortD> WMP54g
[02:27] <AbortD> linksys
[02:27] <AbortD> it worked before
[02:27] <AbortD> on different installs
[02:27] <raffytaffy> any of you guys notice the odd issues regarding swap space not mounting lol
[02:27] <dystopianray> raffytaffy: I don't think it'll drop connections, but there will be packet fragmentation with too high a MTU
[02:27] <raffytaffy> i c
[02:27] <AniHatzis> please..... what's that?!? 10 minutes ago I tried to start Kontact. It didn't work (my "no dialog" problem of the day). And now, out of the sky, it started! I'm getting nuts!
[02:28] <MinceR> that's nice, i have to go to the shop to get nuts
[02:28] <AniHatzis> :))
[02:28] <raffytaffy> this UUID buisness making it hard to compile and install kernels hehe
[02:29] <Mena> I installed Xp again after linux but this time i know the steps to enable the grub and i did it and nothing happned any idea ?
[02:29] <raffytaffy> try super grub disk?
[02:29] <AniHatzis> *snief* now even Konqueror comes with dialog again... I don't know what happens with me. I fall in love with Kubuntu, now it's playing tricks with me. :))
[02:29] <Mena> raffytafyy, you mean by floppy
[02:30] <Mena> raffytafyy, but how to do it or use any startup floppy ??!! :D
[02:30] <raffytaffy> well first i would try mounting the partition ; chrooting into it
[02:30] <raffytaffy> and seeing if the grub is in right place perhaps...just a thought
[02:30] <Mena> its in the right place
[02:30] <AbortD> dystopianray any idea?
[02:31] <raffytaffy> i dont use floppies on this laptop. i use my sabayon dvd to fix my buntu grub
[02:31] <dystopianray> AbortD: what driver does it use?
[02:31] <AbortD> ehhhh
[02:31] <AbortD> let me check
[02:31] <CarinArr> you can use the live cd as well
[02:31] <raffytaffy> yup^
[02:31] <Mena> i did the grub steps (root (hd0,?) and then setup (hd0,?) and at first i searched the /boot/grub/stage1 and its in the place i wanted to be in the root ....So
[02:31] <AbortD> i used to be able to connect to the internet from the live cd with the ubuntu copy
[02:32] <raffytaffy> (hd0,#) not ?
[02:32] <Mena> its in my case (hd0,0)
[02:32] <raffytaffy> hda1 is your root yes
[02:33] <Mena> Yes
[02:33] <raffytaffy> when u run setup
[02:33] <raffytaffy> u only put
[02:33] <raffytaffy> (hd0)
[02:33] <raffytaffy> no second #
[02:33] <Mena> yes bec i cant find hda1
[02:33] <Mena> in the stage i
[02:33] <Mena> 1
[02:34] <raffytaffy> if your root is hda1 :  grub  --> root (hd0,0) ---> setup (hd0)
[02:34] <CarinArr> so find /boot/grub/stage1 returns (hd0,0)?
[02:34] <AbortD> dystopianray WMP54G ver.4.1
[02:34] <AbortD> i guess thats it?
[02:34] <Mena> CarinArr, yes
[02:34] <AbortD> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Download_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115417109934&packedargs=sku%3D1150490054358&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=0993454358B03
[02:34] <CarinArr> yeah, what taffy says
[02:34] <AbortD> thats the webpage for it
[02:34] <Mena> raffytafyy, ok
[02:34] <raffytaffy> ive done grub reinstall a million times lol
[02:34] <Mena> raffytafyy, but nothing happened after this steps
[02:35] <CarinArr> i had to do it the other day
[02:35] <Mena> andd i also installed it again befor all this steps
[02:35] <CarinArr> slightly worried about having to do it a week into using a brand new laptop tho
[02:35] <raffytaffy> your windows is (hd0,1) then
[02:35] <CarinArr> but everything works fine so far fingers crossed
[02:36] <Mena> raffytafyy, its on hda3
[02:36] <raffytaffy> whats hda2
[02:36] <Mena> hda2 swap
[02:37] <N6REJ> can anyone recommend a good distro for a K62-383 laptop?
[02:37] <raffytaffy> n6rej : lfs
[02:37] <N6REJ> raffytaffy: lfs?
[02:37] <raffytaffy> linux from scrtch
[02:37] <raffytaffy> scratch*
[02:37] <N6REJ> raffytaffy: OIC
[02:38] <N6REJ> k
[02:38] <raffytaffy> Mena : are you installing grub from a live session?
[02:39] <Mena> Yes
[02:39] <raffytaffy> do you mount hda1
[02:39] <rickympl> help, my print screen button doesnt take a screenshot anymore
[02:39] <Mena> i dont remeber
[02:39] <Mena> but i guess yes
[02:39] <raffytaffy> ok
[02:40] <dystopianray> AbortD: I need to know the driver it is using, the model of the card is irrelevant
[02:40] <AbortD> rt61?
[02:40] <AbortD> either that or its rt2500
[02:40] <raffytaffy> Mena ; you installed windows and this problem happen
[02:41] <raffytaffy> yes?
[02:41] <Mena> yes
[02:41] <raffytaffy> ok and you search for stage 1 yes?
[02:41] <Mena> i forgot to install it first
[02:41] <Mena> yes
[02:41] <raffytaffy> please do this instead
[02:41] <Mena> ok
[02:41] <raffytaffy> as root type grub : then type "find /boot/grub/stage2
[02:42] <dystopianray> AbortD: I think I recall someone else saying that a recent upgrade broke that driver, there is probably a bug report for it
[02:42] <raffytaffy> this should yield something like hd0,1
[02:42] <dystopianray> AbortD: have you tried booting an older kernel and seeing if it works?
[02:42] <raffytaffy> then type root "result here"
[02:42] <AbortD> how do i boot a old kernel :)
[02:42] <Mena> ok
[02:42] <raffytaffy> then "setup" (hdo)
[02:42] <raffytaffy> this should work
[02:42] <Mena> ok
[02:42] <dystopianray> AbortD: when grub starts, press 'esc' and it'll bring up a list
[02:42] <Mena> Thanks :)
[02:42] <raffytaffy> ok
[02:43] <raffytaffy> AbortD you can manulayy enter the kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:43] <rickympl> actually all my user defined keyboard shortcuts are not working, I had Win+k assigned to open k3b, and it no longer opens nor gives any error
[02:43] <manuel_> hi
[02:43] <raffytaffy> given its installed lol
[02:43] <AbortD> ok can i reinstall the drive?
[02:43] <AbortD> driver
[02:43] <AbortD> im stairing at it right now
[02:43] <raffytaffy> what driver?
[02:43] <AbortD> rt2500
[02:43] <rickympl> i installed the suse kde menu, would that have anything to do with it?
[02:44] <raffytaffy> suse kde menu on buntu?
[02:44] <raffytaffy> abortD is this a driver u have to compile against kernel source?
[02:44] <dystopianray> AbortD: I don't see how that'd do anything, you'd still have the same non functional driver
[02:44] <dystopianray> AbortD: reboot into an older kernel and see if it works
[02:44] <Mena> yes there is on kde-look.org a suse kde menu you can use it on kubuntu
[02:45] <raffytaffy> dystopianary : if he has 3d driver...his old kernel will spew xserver error
[02:45] <AbortD> k brb
[02:45] <Mena> just install it
[02:45] <manuel_> how can i change the namen of my kubuntuuser ? eg from manuel to steffen and the home dir schould be renamed too i mean an full name change with all subgroups and so
[02:46] <raffytaffy> i think the 2.6.20.3 kernel has better netfilter support then 2.6.20
[02:46] <dystopianray> manuel_: should just be able to change hte user name and home dir with vipw and then rename the old home dir
[02:47] <manuel_> thx
[02:48] <AbortD> i only see one kernel
[02:48] <AbortD> thhen a recovery mode for the same kernel
[02:48] <raffytaffy> AbortD is the old kernel installed?
[02:49] <AbortD> no...
[02:49] <AbortD> it was a fresh install of 6.10
[02:49] <raffytaffy> well you can only boot what is installed
[02:49] <raffytaffy> you can either install another kernel from apt-get or compile your own
[02:50] <dystopianray> AbortD: have you not performed updates?
[02:50] <AbortD> i cant apt-get with no internet :)
[02:50] <AbortD> with no internet no :)
[02:50] <raffytaffy> thus no updates ahh
[02:50] <AbortD> mhmm
[02:50] <raffytaffy> u have no way to get connected?
[02:51] <AbortD> unless i decided to take my pc apart and bring it downstairs
[02:51] <raffytaffy> how much space do you have available
[02:51] <AbortD> where?
[02:51] <raffytaffy> on the HD in question
[02:52] <AbortD> alot
[02:52] <frojnd> I have some problems installing dma.. My usb device is /dev/sdc1 and now I don't know how to start dma. Should I like sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc  ??
[02:52] <AbortD> like 60 some gigs
[02:52] <raffytaffy> ok ..install 6.10 a second time
[02:52] <raffytaffy> lol
[02:52] <AbortD> why?
[02:52] <raffytaffy> bcse u have no net to get new kernel
[02:53] <dystopianray> frojnd: a sata drive? dma is enabled by default
[02:53] <dystopianray> frojnd: oh wait, usb, yes dma is also enabled
[02:53] <dystopianray> frojnd: dma is only a concern for old ide drives
[02:53] <raffytaffy> unless : you d/l stuff downstairs onto a cd or sumfin and bring it upstairs
[02:53] <raffytaffy> or go to radio shack and buy a cable
[02:54] <frojnd> dystopianray: I don't think it's enabled... couse when U: sudo hdparm /dev/hdc there is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11652/
[02:54] <AbortD> i am downstairs with a cdr in :)
[02:54] <dystopianray> frojnd: hdparm is for hard drives, not usb devices
[02:55] <frojnd> oh
[02:55] <dystopianray> only for ide hard drives
[02:55] <AbortD> why would the driver be broken if i reinstall it?
[02:55] <dystopianray> AbortD: it'll be just as broken as it is now
[02:55] <dystopianray> AbortD: reinstalling will make no difference
[02:55] <AbortD> why though?
[02:55] <rickympl> raffytaffy, yes, suse kde menu
[02:56] <raffytaffy> rickympl : on buntu? lol
[02:56] <dystopianray> AbortD: why would it make any difference? :S it's the exact same files, there is no magic
[02:56] <CarinArr> AbortD: are yu trying to install the rt2500 with ndiswrapper?
[02:56] <raffytaffy> i was gonna suggest he d/l a kernel from kernel.org and compile it...but shoot...you need alot of extra packages
[02:56] <AbortD> i havent installed anything
[02:57] <AbortD> and i dont feel in eed a kernel or the driver is borked
[02:57] <rickympl> raffytaffy, whats so funny? its in the repos
[02:57] <raffytaffy> wait...are u talking about SLAB
[02:57] <rickympl> raffytaffy, let me check
[02:58] <dystopianray> AbortD: you said the wifi doesn't work, so it must be a driver problem
[02:58] <AbortD> CarinArr i can see the wireless network but i cannot connect it fails
[02:58] <AbortD> it works but wont  connect
[02:58] <dystopianray> I recall someone else telling me that rt2xxx was not working the other day
[02:58] <dystopianray> AbortD: are you using network-manager?
[02:58] <AbortD> im using kdes wireless utility
[02:59] <rickympl> raffytaffy, kwin-style-suse2 its in universe
[02:59] <raffytaffy> AbortD try sudo dhclient ra0
[02:59] <AbortD> i have it set to dhc but ok brb
[03:00] <raffytaffy> rickympl : i use kbfx menu:P
[03:00] <rickympl> raffytaffy, didnt know of that one
[03:00] <rickympl> raffytaffy, ill try it out, c if it solves my keyboard shortcuts prob
[03:00] <raffytaffy> i dont suggest you use the one in repos...rather compile it on your own
[03:01] <rickympl> raffytaffy, y?
[03:01] <raffytaffy> bcse the repo one dont work like it should
[03:01] <raffytaffy> infact it dont work @ all
[03:01] <rickympl> raffytaffy, then wats it doing in the repos? LOL
[03:02] <raffytaffy> just bcse its in repos dont mean its 100%
[03:02] <raffytaffy> ever try to install fluxbox from the repos...when u log into it...u get a blank screen with nothing ..no options lol
[03:02] <rickympl> never tried
[03:03] <raffytaffy> just using it as an example
[03:03] <raffytaffy> its there...but useless
[03:03] <rickympl> ok, thx 4 ur help
[03:03] <raffytaffy> :)
[03:04] <raffytaffy> i didnt know i helped but ok
[03:05] <rickympl> raffytaffy, u replied, which is some kind of help :)
[03:05] <raffytaffy> ah well yeah..alot of ppl dont talk
[03:05] <raffytaffy> 363 ppl ...3 talk lol
[03:06] <rickympl> right
[03:06] <raffytaffy> i guess rest are telepathic
[03:06] <rickympl> i guess
[03:06] <rickympl> g2g
[03:06] <raffytaffy> ok
[03:06] <AbortD> thx raffy
[03:06] <raffytaffy> did it work
[03:07] <AbortD> no i meant thx for making my comp burst into flames
[03:07] <AbortD> haha yeah it did
[03:07] <raffytaffy> lol ok
[03:07] <AbortD> but i got one more question :P
[03:07] <AbortD> am i able to install my monitor drivers?
[03:07] <raffytaffy> u mean to enable 3d?
[03:07] <AbortD> it wants to stick me in 60hz and have a screwed display
[03:07] <AbortD> no i want my view fixed....
[03:07] <raffytaffy> ok
[03:07] <raffytaffy> thats easy
[03:08] <raffytaffy> what are your paramaters? like 1280 x800 etc etc
[03:08] <easytiger> whats the konqueror package called that gives you video thumnails. it autoremoved for no reason
[03:08] <AbortD> the highest because its the only one i dont have to adjust
[03:08] <raffytaffy> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ----> scroll down to bottom and input your info
[03:08] <AbortD> and that will fix it?
[03:08] <raffytaffy> "1600x1200" is what i use...so i add that
[03:08] <raffytaffy> leave the other ones in tact
[03:09] <raffytaffy> save....restart xserver
[03:09] <raffytaffy> should pick up the right dimensions
[03:09] <AbortD> how do i restart the server?
[03:09] <raffytaffy> ctrl + alt + backspace
[03:09] <dystopianray> ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:09] <dystopianray> or if you're keymap is screwed, shift+backspace
[03:09] <dystopianray> your *
[03:09] <raffytaffy> yes...those darn alaskan keymaps
[03:10] <dystopianray> i've seen it happen on a simple dvorak keymap
[03:10] <dystopianray> it's amazing how often you'd hit shift+backspace
[03:11] <raffytaffy> yes im aware lol
[03:11] <raffytaffy> then again alot of times ppl will have their num lock on and type with #'s lol
[03:12] <easytiger> does no one know what the plugin is called for knoqueror video previews?
[03:12] <kristjan_> is this also feisty support channel?
[03:13] <CarinArr> !feisty
[03:13] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:13] <raffytaffy> easytiger : flash player
[03:13] <waylandbill> kristjan_: technically that's #ubuntu+1. got an issue?
[03:13] <easytiger> raffytaffy: what?
[03:13] <raffytaffy> u need flash player to view youtube type stuff
[03:14] <easytiger> raffytaffy: not even close to what im asking ;)
[03:14] <kristjan_> easytiger: I know what you need, wait
[03:14] <raffytaffy> i thought u meant to view media on konq. :(
[03:14] <easytiger> the thmnail previews in filebrowsing mode went awol when autoremove removed the package to do it. can't find that package name
[03:15] <kristjan_> easytiger: libarts1-xine package
[03:15] <pabst> anyone know of any good packet sniffing application, something like ethereal for use with kubuntu?
[03:15] <easytiger> kristjan_: thanks!
[03:15] <easytiger> pabst: wireshark
[03:15] <waylandbill> pabst: wireshark
[03:15] <easytiger> whih is ethereal
[03:16] <pabst> eastiger/waylandbill: thanks...
[03:16] <pabst> can i apt-get that?
[03:16] <raffytaffy> snort
[03:16] <raffytaffy> well its ids
[03:16] <raffytaffy> ehh
[03:16] <waylandbill> pabst: it's the successor to ethereal actually. :-)
[03:16] <waylandbill> !info wireshark
[03:16] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[03:16] <pabst> awesome
[03:16] <pabst> installing now :)
[03:17] <dystopianray> pabst: for security reasons, it's preferable to capture with tcpdump first, and then analyse the resulting file with wireshark, rather than have wireshark capture and analyse
[03:17] <dystopianray> pabst: otherwise wireshark has to run as root
[03:19] <waylandbill> dystopianray: doesn't promiscuous mode require root anyway?
[03:19] <fdoving> tcpdump will need to run as root, but you don't have to run the graphical wireshark as root in that case.
[03:19] <dystopianray> waylandbill: yes, so you'd use tcpdump or something
[03:20] <dystopianray> ethereal has had many vulnerabilities
[03:21] <fdoving> the question is, does it matter at all if you use tcpdump to capture? no info is lost, it's just saved in a file for wireshark to read.
[03:22] <fdoving> if there is something fishy, it will be saved in that file. :)
[03:23] <dystopianray> no it doesn't matter, it's capturing exactly the same data
[03:23] <dystopianray> the only difference is that it won't be real time, you capture then analyze after with wireshark
[03:23] <dystopianray> although, I'm sure that wireshark would be able to open the incomplete file during the capture
[03:25] <fdoving> but you won't gain any security by using tcpdump, as the tcpdumped data is parsed by wireshark anyhow.
[03:25] <dystopianray> yes but not as root
[03:25] <fdoving> good point.
[03:26] <dystopianray> you could run wireshark as user 'nobody' so it can't do anything
[03:26] <dystopianray> except read
[03:26] <raffytaffy> i cant get rid of these kernel updates in apt-get grrrrr
[03:26] <dystopianray> raffytaffy: have you ran apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:26] <raffytaffy> uname[Linux Equinox 2.6.20.3 #1 Wed Mar 21 13:28:59 EDT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux] 
[03:26] <abortd_> bah
[03:26] <raffytaffy> im on custom kernel
[03:27] <raffytaffy> i have no use for them lol
[03:27] <abortd_> its still pinched in certain spots
[03:27] <raffytaffy> yet it still wants to install them
[03:27] <mike__> I have been testing "herd 5'" Wireless is detected but is flakey,It indicates a constant connection but browsing is hit and miss
[03:27] <raffytaffy> i have edgy and feisty installed
[03:28] <abortd_> what repositories should i enable universe and multiverse?
[03:28] <mike__> Anyone have wifi issues with feisty and atheros on a laptop?
[03:28] <raffytaffy> abortd its up to you....
[03:29] <raffytaffy> i used source-o-matic to generate a huge repo list
[03:29] <abortd_> well i forgot what i had last time :|
[03:29] <raffytaffy> i also add debian repos
[03:29] <abortd_> i wish my screen wasnt so gay
[03:29] <waylandbill> raffytaffy likes to live on the edge. :-)
[03:29] <raffytaffy> i use suse repos too
[03:30] <raffytaffy> but not with apt-get but smart
[03:30] <dystopianray> mikes__: I can try my atheros pcmcia card in feisty if you want
[03:30] <waylandbill> I think I'll stick with ubuntu repos. :-D
[03:30] <mike__> dystopianray, Please
[03:30] <raffytaffy> i dont mind breaking things. only gives me reason to learn new stuff
[03:30] <dystopianray> mikes__: I can only try in the feisty herd 5 livecd and the beta when it's released later today
[03:31] <abortd_> what are back ports?//////////
[03:31] <dystopianray> abortd_: a newer package that is available for an older ubuntu release
[03:31] <waylandbill> !backports
[03:31] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:31] <raffytaffy> !source o matic
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source o matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <raffytaffy> heh
[03:32] <abortd_> whats security universe?//
[03:32] <raffytaffy> abortd : is this for 6.10?
[03:32] <mike__> dystopianray, I have no probs with pclos or sidux
[03:32] <abortd_> yeah
[03:32] <abortd_> i have to get taking off though
[03:32] <abortd_> got some shit to do
[03:33] <raffytaffy> check this out abortd -> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[03:33] <abortd_> er sorry
[03:33] <abortd_> didnt mean to cuss
[03:33] <dystopianray> mikes__: they are other distros?
[03:33] <mike__> (*_*)
[03:33] <abortd_> thanks raffytaffy
[03:33] <raffytaffy> gentoo used to be a good distro..its a big mess now
[03:33] <abortd_> see you all in a bit
[03:34] <mike__> dystopianray,  yes,herd 5 looks very nice and have found no other probs
[03:34] <allen84us> hi
[03:34] <allen84us> i need some urgent help
[03:34] <allen84us> my apache 2.0 goes crazy
[03:34] <dystopianray> mikes__: herd5 is where your atheros problem is?
[03:34] <mike__> allen84us, hello
[03:34] <allen84us> Invalid URI in request \x13BitTorrent protocolex
[03:34] <mike__> dystopianray, Yes
[03:35] <allen84us> this error msg keep on appear in my apache error log
[03:35] <allen84us> any1 can help me ?
[03:35] <allen84us> Invalid URI in request \x13BitTorrent protocolex
[03:35] <allen84us> wat problem i face?
[03:35] <raffytaffy> a lawsuit possibly
[03:35] <raffytaffy> lol
[03:35] <allen84us> huh?
[03:35] <dystopianray> allen84us: sounds like somebody's torrent client is connecting to port 80 on your webserver or something
[03:35] <allen84us> who can help me ?
[03:36] <allen84us> then how i stop it ?
[03:36] <mike__> dystopianray, It is interesting because debian etch does the same thing,indicates a constant connection but bwowsing is stop/start
[03:36] <mike__> ^^browsing
[03:36] <raffytaffy> mike__ its the netstat process most likley
[03:36] <raffytaffy> if its FF
[03:36] <CarinArr> i'm not at tesco no
[03:36] <CarinArr> er wrong window:)
[03:36] <mike__> raffytaffy, Please tell me more?
[03:37] <allen84us> any1 can tell me how to solve my problem ?
[03:37] <raffytaffy> FF has this odd behavior in 6.10 ..not sure about others...then when u use it..it opens a netstat process...check your system monitor
[03:37] <dystopianray> mikes__: brb
[03:38] <waylandbill> allen84us: it's not a problem. it's rejecting the client. if it's that much of a concern then blacklist the ip address.
[03:38] <mike__> raffytaffy, ff=firefox?
[03:38] <raffytaffy> yes
[03:38] <mike__> It was the same in opera and konqueror
[03:39] <allen84us> but there is so many different ip that keep on request bt
[03:39] <allen84us> it seem nvr stop
[03:39] <allen84us> do i need to restart my router and get a new ip?
[03:40] <mike__> allen84us, normally
[03:40] <raffytaffy> static ip
[03:40] <carlos_> alguien espaol?
[03:40] <allen84us> wat do u mean by normally?
[03:40] <carlos_> necesito ayuda
[03:40] <dystopianray> mikes__: so far so good, not having any issues
[03:40] <mike__> allen84us, depends if it is "static" or not
[03:40] <allen84us> no
[03:41] <allen84us> my ip not static 1
[03:41] <carlos_> necesito ayudaaa
[03:41] <allen84us> dynamic ip
[03:41] <Jucato> !es | carlos_
[03:41] <ubotu> carlos_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:41] <dystopianray> mikes__: I have a belkin pcmcia card, AR512 802.11abg, connected to an ap via 802.11g and WPA
[03:42] <mike__> dystopianray, All going well/
[03:42] <mike__> ?
[03:42] <dystopianray> mikes__: seems to be fine
[03:43] <mike__> dystopianray, I feel the problem i am having will be very minor
[03:44] <dystopianray> mikes__: what is the problem exactly? does it only happen with feisty?
[03:45] <mike__> dystopianray, wireless comes up as connected but when browsing it is stop start,not a constant conection
[03:45] <dystopianray> mikes__: browsing is fine here, although the herd 5 cd locks up pretty frequently which it has just done
[03:45] <mike__> But it indicates that the connection is constant
[03:46] <dystopianray> i went to /., digg ubuntu.com didn't have any problems
[03:46] <dhq> which is the best application for a tv card
[03:46] <donsw> alowwwwwwwwwww
[03:46] <dystopianray> dhq: I like kaffeine
[03:46] <dystopianray> dhq: if it's a dvb card
[03:46] <dhq> dystopianray: i have no idea its a pcmcia card
[03:47] <Mena-Smart> Hi
[03:47] <cornelius> hi
[03:47] <mike__> night guys
[03:47] <mike__> 2:47am
[03:47] <Mena-Smart> How to downlaod the PublicKey with terminal
[03:47] <Mena-Smart> For the updates
[03:47] <dystopianray> dhq: it's dvb if it's for digital television
[03:47] <dhq> dystopianray: Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d0)
[03:47] <dystopianray> dhq: do you get any /dev/dvb/* device when you plug it in?
[03:48] <dhq> dystopianray: how do i install this device
[03:48] <dystopianray> dhq: when you plug it in, run $ ls /dev/dvb/
[03:49] <Mena-Smart> i got this i need the publicKey
[03:49] <Mena-Smart> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[03:49] <Mena-Smart> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[03:49] <Mena-Smart> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:49] <Mena-Smart> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:49] <Mena-Smart> Sorry :D
[03:49] <dystopianray> !pastebin | Mena-Smart
[03:49] <ubotu> Mena-Smart: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:49] <Mena-Smart> Ok Thanks :)
[03:49] <dhq> dystopianray: well there is nothin
[03:50] <dystopianray> dhq: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[03:51] <dystopianray> dhq: do you know if it is for digital tv? or just analog tv?
[03:51] <dhq> dystopianray: analog tv
[03:51] <dystopianray> dhq: oh ok, umm, I think that creates /dev/v4l devices then
[03:51] <dystopianray> I think tvtime can do v4l tv stuff
[03:51] <Mena-Smart> : Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. (how to fix this this is my source.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11658/  )
[03:52] <dystopianray> dhq: pastebin your dmesg and I'll be able to help more
[03:53] <dhq> dystopianray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11659/
[03:54] <dystopianray> dhq: ok, that seems to be starting up fine, does ls /dev/video0 exist?
[03:54] <dystopianray> dhq: or maybe it's /dev/v4l/* i'm not sure
[03:55] <fdoving> Mena-Smart: didn't it tell you which failed?
[03:55] <dhq> dystopianray: /dev/video4 exists
[03:55] <dystopianray> dhq: ok, cool, so the card is supported, you can use tvtime to use it
[03:55] <Mena-Smart> Fdoving, no
[03:56] <fdoving> Mena-Smart: my guess would be one of the beryl ones at the top.
[03:56] <Mena-Smart> Fdoving, but befor it there is error bec of the public key
[03:56] <fdoving> Mena-Smart: you can try to uncomment then (add a # in front).
[03:56] <Mena-Smart> ok
[03:56] <fdoving> Mena-Smart: ah, then you need to add the beryl-projects key to your apt-keys. they should provide info on how to do this along with their repository information.
[03:57] <bernd> hi
[03:57] <Mena-Smart> ok
[03:58] <bernd> i have a problem to install the nvidia driver
[03:58] <dhq> dystopianray: so i have to install tvtime
[03:58] <dystopianray> dhq: it's the only app I knwo of that handles analog tv tuners, apart from mythtv
[03:58] <bernd> i used the how to from the ubuntu wiki but only get the command line when i restart
[03:58] <dhq> dystopianray: thankx i will give it a try
[03:59] <bernd> can anybody help me?
[03:59] <dystopianray> bernd: all you need to do is 'nvidia-glx' and then change "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[03:59] <dystopianray> bernd: install nvidia-glx i mean
[03:59] <Jucato> bernd: did you remember to install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:59] <Jucato> (if you're on Edgy, that should be linux-restricted-module-generic)
[03:59] <dystopianray> Jucato: restricted modules come by default
[03:59] <bernd> i used this how to:http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Nvidia-Grafikkarten?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[03:59] <Jucato> dystopianray: only the -common but not the one needed by nvidia
[03:59] <dystopianray> bernd: did you install nvidia-glx?
[04:00] <dystopianray> Jucato: I have nvidia running with only installing nvidia-glx and changing "nv" to "nvidia"
[04:00] <bernd> yes, i installed nvidia-glx
[04:00] <Gandinux> Hello to everybody ;)   ... As I can see this is a common english fitted Channel. Does anyone know a channel in german where Kubuntu is supported?
[04:00] <Jucato> dystopianray: then you already have installed the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel sometime before that
[04:00] <Jucato> !de | Gandinux
[04:00] <ubotu> Gandinux: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:01] <Gandinux> Thanks a lot :)
[04:01] <bernd> thanks
[04:01] <dystopianray> Jucato: no never, I only installed ubuntu a week ago, -common and -generic are all I have
[04:01] <Jucato> dystopianray: you have linux-restricted-modules-generic?
[04:01] <dystopianray> Jucato: it either came by default, or was pulled in by nvidia-glx
[04:02] <Jucato> it's not by default, nor pulled by nvidia-glx. but it may be installed by some other metapackage
[04:02] <dystopianray> I don't have anything else kernel related installed
[04:02] <dystopianray> is there a command that will tell me what depends on it?
[04:03] <Jucato> believe what you want. I'm just speaking from my experience and from others' as well
[04:03] <bernd> #kubuntu-de
[04:04] <PF-Away> yes
[04:05] <wolferine> morning, someone offer some assistance to getting my FTPd up?
[04:06] <dystopianray> wolferine: what ftp daemon are you using?
[04:06] <wolferine> proftpd
[04:07] <ubuntu> hello
[04:08] <fakir> Hi all!
[04:08] <ubuntu> hi fakir
[04:09] <fakir> I have a problem during install nvidia driver on kubuntu 6.10
[04:10] <fakir> After install the X server can't start
[04:10] <Mena-Smart> jucato, its safe to upgrade to fiesty i mean testing it
[04:10] <ubuntu> I'm sorry, I can't help you.
[04:10] <Mena-Smart> from kubuntu
[04:10] <Mena-Smart> without clean installation
[04:11] <Jucato> Mena-Smart: it's more or less stable. It will be in beta in a few hours... but the warning still holds
[04:11] <fakir> Backtrace:
[04:11] <fakir> 0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c3971] 
[04:11] <fakir> 1: [0xffffe420] 
[04:11] <fakir> Fatal server error:
[04:11] <fakir> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
[04:11] <fakir> Help me please!
[04:11] <Mena-Smart> jucato, ok
[04:13] <soulrider> hi eveyrone
[04:13] <KaoticEvil> Jucato: Feisty is going beta?
[04:13] <Jucato> supposed to be today
[04:14] <KaoticEvil> sweet
[04:14] <Mena-Smart> hhehe
[04:17] <wolferine> hehe
[04:18] <dystopianray> the guy who does the release, is in UTC+1, so it's like 4pm there, and he said it'd be released before he finishs work
[04:20] <pixelation> what percentage of you guys use fiesty, I don't want to be left with no support... I'm pretty new.??
[04:20] <wolferine> hehe
[04:20] <MinceR> i use edgy
[04:20] <wolferine> new == dont use fiesty :P
[04:20] <pixelation> k
[04:20] <pixelation> :)
[04:20] <wolferine> just kidding
[04:21] <wolferine> do what ever u want
[04:21] <pixelation> seriously?
[04:21] <pixelation> well...
[04:21] <wolferine> lol
[04:21] <Mena-Smart> jucato, i was going to update kubuntu do you think i should wait if i want to upgrade fiesty or its okayt if i update then upgrading to fiesty beta
[04:21] <fdoving> pixelation: feisty should be pretty usable at this time. there will be a beta release today. only minor changes will be included for the final release.
[04:21] <pixelation> the thing is, I'm new... and there is no unnoficial wiki and automatix doesn't support it, etc.
[04:21] <wolferine> does fiesty have new rls of kde and gnome?
[04:21] <dystopianray> wolferine: it has kde 3.5.6
[04:21] <Jucato> Mena-Smart: I'd personally advise to wait until feisty, unless you want to help test some stuff
[04:22] <Jucato> wolferine: Feisty and Edgy has KDE 3.5.6
[04:22] <wolferine> and gnome?
[04:22] <Jucato> (or at least you can upgrade to 3.5.6 on Edgy)
[04:22] <Mena-Smart> okay i will wait :)
[04:22] <pixelation> when is official feisty?
[04:22] <Jucato> 2.18
[04:22] <wolferine> oh, so a later rls of gnome
[04:22] <Mena-Smart> i must change my source list do i rename edgy to feisty
[04:22] <Jucato> around the 3rd or 4th week of april
[04:22] <Mena-Smart> in the suorce list lines
[04:22] <Jucato> Mena-Smart: no need
[04:22] <Mena-Smart> ok
[04:23] <Jucato> a new dist-upgrade tool  will do that for you
[04:23] <pixelation> that's what I tried, just renaming the source list... I messed it ALL up LOL
[04:23] <Mena-Smart> ok
[04:23] <pixelation> but it was OMH
[04:23] <Jucato> wolferine: the 6-month release cycle of Ubuntu matches with the 6-moth release cycle of GNOME. So that around 1 or 2 months after a new GNOME release, a new Ubuntu will be released
[04:24] <Mena-Smart> jucato, i will run this tool manualy right bec i have clean install of kubuntu edgy
[04:24] <wolferine> oh, good to know
[04:24] <wolferine> you a developer?
[04:24] <soulrider> does anyone know if its possible to compile c++ .net programs in windows ?
[04:24] <soulrider> linux*(
[04:24] <Jucato> soulrider: try mono
[04:24] <wolferine> that was directed to you Jucato
[04:24] <soulrider> im starting to learn c++ in college but i cant compile in g++ here =/
[04:24] <Jucato> wolferine: well... yes and no.... but more on no...
[04:24] <pixelation> Well, I already installed all the codecs and such from automatix, so since that's all done, maybe I should go ahead and upgrade, my system is telling me to.
[04:24] <soulrider> thanks Jucato
[04:24] <wolferine> hehe
[04:25] <wolferine> in the k/ubuntu project, I meant
[04:25] <Jucato> soulrider: why? GCC is available on Windows through cygwin... try asking in #ubuntu-programming or ##c++
[04:25] <wolferine> every little bit helps :)
[04:25] <Jucato> wolferine: I do user support mostly, bug hunting and marking here and there. and studying programming...
[04:25] <pixelation> maybe if the system tells me to upgrade, I should upgrade???
[04:25] <Jucato> Mena-Smart: the tool will be available for download through edgy-updates when the time comes
[04:26] <wolferine> which languages?
[04:26] <Mena-Smart> jucato, ohhh ok
[04:26] <pixelation> I'm scared of loosing all my subtle settings and falling into a deep depression. heh
[04:26] <Jucato> pixelation: just a word of caution, automatix has been known to make upgrading to a new release a bit more difficult
[04:26] <Jucato> wolferine: C++
[04:26] <pixelation> OK
[04:26] <wolferine> ah, im a java guy
[04:26] <pixelation> I might uninstall it, I mean, it's done with installing all the stuff for me.
[04:27] <waylandbill> the stuff automatix installs is just as easily installed manually really.
[04:27] <raffytaffy> automatix should not be suggested to new ppl
[04:27] <Jucato> actually, Feisty will make automatix a bit obsolete when it comes to codecs and media
[04:28] <raffytaffy> it should only be used by those who can already do it all manually
[04:28] <Jucato> raffytaffy: although that sort of contradicts their purpose.... but yeah...
[04:28] <pixelation> waylandbill,... yeah if I wasn't retarted.
[04:28] <pixelation> lol
[04:29] <pixelation> I mean that in the dictionary sense too.
[04:29] <waylandbill> Jucato: wait until you have an error using templates from the standardc++ library. It's like reading a foreign language. :-)
[04:29] <pixelation> lol
[04:29] <Jucato> pixelation: don't complain. on Kubuntu, we only needed to install libxine-extracodecs for most stuff (except WMA/V)... on Ubuntu, they had to install gstreamer-this, gstreamer-that
[04:29] <Jucato> :)
[04:29] <dystopianray> Jucato: wmv is supported with libxine-extracodecs as of feisty
[04:30] <pixelation> Jucato, don't get me wrong, I love KDE.
[04:30] <Jucato> dystopianray: I know. I think it was you who asked me to test it in #ubuntu+1
[04:30] <Jucato> or someone else
[04:30] <dystopianray> Jucato: oh yeah that's right, I remember now, hehe
[04:30] <pixelation> that's a good tip, thanks Jucato.
[04:30] <Jucato> pixelation: nah. I"m just saying that we had it better :)
[04:31] <Jucato> anyway, on Feisty, if you play a media that requires a codec, like in Amarok, a script will run to install it. it's already the same in Edgy
[04:31] <Jucato> same w/ Flash and Konqueror
[04:31] <KaoticEvil> yeah, i found that the other day when i tried to play an MP3 in amaroK
[04:31] <KaoticEvil> was quite happy with the results
[04:31] <raffytaffy> Jucato : i can see some potential exploits to such installs
[04:32] <Jucato> raffytaffy: why? it just runs adept_batch
[04:32] <[pyro] > raffytaffy: what exactly?
[04:32] <raffytaffy> yes it starts a process. ...
[04:32] <Jucato> and asks for your password
[04:32] <raffytaffy> what if someone find a way to start a 100 of those processes
[04:32] <Jucato> the script is open source btw
[04:32] <raffytaffy> that can lag no?
[04:33] <Jucato> no
[04:33] <raffytaffy> o.0
[04:33] <epimeth> Jucato: and if I had *just* sudoed something... last time adept-batch ran it didn't ask me for a password
[04:33] <Jucato> you can't have 2 apt processes open
[04:33] <Jucato> epimeth: that's a feature, not a bug
[04:33] <raffytaffy> epimeth is right
[04:33] <[pyro] > all bugs are just undocumented features ;)
[04:33] <epimeth> I'm talking exploit
[04:33] <Jucato> sudo is supposed to remember the password for a time period
[04:33] <KaoticEvil> i had it once where i didnt need to put in my pass for every sudo.. i did it one time, and cant remember how :(
[04:33] <Jucato> exploit from whom?
[04:34] <raffytaffy> say you just install something...close terminal..and that auto install laucnhes
[04:34] <[pyro] > KaoticEvil: sudo -i
[04:34] <dystopianray> I tried to play a mp3 in amarok on herd5, amarok locked up
[04:34] <Jucato> dystopianray: now *that* is a bug :)
[04:34] <dystopianray> the codec install dialog locked up i mean!
[04:34] <epimeth> dystopianray: yea... the codec thing was buggy
[04:34] <Jucato> and I hope you reported it
[04:34] <epimeth> its fixed now I think
[04:34] <raffytaffy> i installed all codecs manually
[04:34] <KaoticEvil> [pyro] : yeah, but that only last until you close that terminal window
[04:34] <[pyro] > Jucato: no an undocumented feature ;)
[04:34] <dystopianray> I had too many other issues that I forgot to report them all
[04:35] <Jucato> raffytaffy: excuse me but I don't seem to understand you.
[04:35] <dystopianray> I only reported one that really annoyed
[04:35] <Shaezsche> what is the command to run fsk on next boot?
[04:35] <Jucato> dystopianray: next time the bug comes up after official release, ask yourself why you didn't report it :)
[04:35] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: touch /forcefsck
[04:35] <Shaezsche> touch?
[04:35] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: yes
[04:35] <raffytaffy> hmm ... say you install something using sudo apt-get ...even if you close the term after...there is that short time period you could reopen terminal and sudo apg-get something WITHOUT having to input password
[04:36] <KaoticEvil> [pyro] : i had it to where i *never* had to type in m pass for sudo
[04:36] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: it's a command you run
[04:36] <Shaezsche> i know
[04:36] <Shaezsche> never run "touch" before th
[04:36] <Shaezsche> o
[04:36] <[pyro] > KaoticEvil: did you set that up?
[04:36] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: it just creates the file /forcefsck, startup scripts will see that file and force a fsck, then remove the file
[04:37] <epimeth> Shaezsche: "touch" creates / sets modified date to now for a file
[04:37] <Shaezsche> i think my notebook's HD isnt fully supported by linux. last time fsck ran it had 10% non-contiguous
[04:37] <KaoticEvil> [pyro] : yeah, it was a command i typed.. altho i can no longer remember what it was... this was many installs ago... way back on breezy
[04:37] <Shaezsche> that cant be normal
[04:37] <Jucato> raffytaffy: ok... so? you are talking about a sudo issue. not the script to install codecs
[04:37] <CarinArr> i can't think why you'd actually want to remove sudo
[04:37] <[pyro] > KaoticEvil: ah yes, now you mention it, i have done the same thing too.
[04:38] <[pyro] > rings bells
[04:38] <raffytaffy> well i was trying to correlate the two in my head somehow
[04:38] <epimeth> Jucato: yes... but thats an easy way to get root priveleges...
[04:38] <Shaezsche> how much non-contigious is ok
[04:38] <Jucato> epimeth: so is sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:39] <Jucato> so is running Adept from the menu
[04:39] <raffytaffy> apt-get moo
[04:39] <Shaezsche> also, for some reason in any debian based distro glxgears only gives me 800 fps, while in mandriva i get 1300. I notice that my gaming on cedega reflects this percentage as well
[04:39] <Shaezsche> any idea why? intel i915 chipset
[04:39] <[pyro] > !moo
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <raffytaffy> pyro try it
[04:39] <raffytaffy> its funny
[04:40] <epimeth> Jucato: yea... but raffytaffy is saying that you can easily push a fake "codec" if someone ran sudo shortly beforehand
[04:40] <[pyro] > hehe yeah ive done it :D
[04:40] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: are they using different drivers?
[04:40] <raffytaffy> epimeth seems to understand me
[04:40] <raffytaffy> even thou it seems like a rather rare occourance it can happen
[04:40] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: there was no glxgears difference when I moved from gentoo to kubuntu
[04:40] <Jucato> epimeth: ok... howwould you push a fake codec?
[04:40] <raffytaffy> with root access you can push anything
[04:41] <epimeth> actually... thats not really true... where does feisty know to download codecs from?
[04:41] <Jucato> epimeth: lol from the repositories where else?!
[04:41] <raffytaffy> didnt automatix get cracked a while back
[04:41] <epimeth> so screw it... it doesn't pose a security risk :-)
[04:41] <Jucato> I already mentioned that it runs adept_batch
[04:41] <Jucato> and adept only works w/ repositories
[04:41] <Jucato> and it installs the codecs from Ubuntu's repositories
[04:42] <epimeth> yea... raffytaffy got me riled up :-)
[04:42] <raffytaffy> i was thinking to perhaps implement a --delay switch to apt-get ; meaning it dl's the program u want...but prior to install gives you option to check
[04:42] <fdoving> raffytaffy: you can use -d, download-only.
[04:43] <waylandbill> friggin mouse when on the fritz.
[04:43] <[pyro] > raffytaffy: what, so are you going to check all the code before you install?
[04:43] <fakir> [18:17]  <fakir> Backtrace:
[04:43] <fakir> [18:17]  <fakir> 0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c3971] 
[04:43] <fakir> [18:17]  <fakir> 1: [0xffffe420] 
[04:43] <fakir> [18:17]  <fakir> Fatal server error:
[04:43] <fakir> [18:17]  <fakir> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
[04:43] <Jucato> again, that's a sudo issue. nothing to do w/ the script that installs the codec
[04:43] <raffytaffy> well you can scan for rootkits
[04:43] <raffytaffy> i guess
[04:43] <[pyro] > !pastebin
[04:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:43] <epimeth> fakir: that tells us absolutely nothing
[04:43] <KaoticEvil> [pyro] : any idea how to do that again? lol
[04:43] <epimeth> fakir: what is the problem?
[04:44] <berkes> can anyone give me a hint what logs to tail? Since a few days my x session suddenly simply stops and I am trown to the default KDM screen. All open apps and stuff are then killed too.
[04:44] <[pyro] > KaoticEvil: i saw it on a forum i think. just searched for root access
[04:44] <fdoving> berkes: $HOME/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:44] <berkes> I /think/ its a hardware issue. Thougt it had to do with broken sections on my HDD, but so far no luck.
[04:44] <KaoticEvil> i may try to find it again one of thse days
[04:45] <waylandbill> nice nick KaoticEvil. creative. :-D
[04:45] <raffytaffy> by broken sections u mean bad blocks?
[04:45] <KaoticEvil> waylandbill: thanks.. been usin this nick for yeeeeeeeeeears
[04:45] <fakir> epimeth, X server can't start after nVidia driver installing
[04:45] <Shaezsche> when is feisty supposed to be final?
[04:45] <dystopianray> april 19
[04:45] <CarinArr> !envy | fakir
[04:45] <ubotu> fakir: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[04:45] <raffytaffy> fakir : check nvidia install log
[04:45] <epimeth> fakir: you installed the wrong driver
[04:45] <raffytaffy> lol epimeth
[04:46] <waylandbill> KaoticEvil: I've been using mine a while too. :-P
[04:46] <CarinArr> fakir: try using envy, it does all the work for you
[04:46] <epimeth> fakir: check out envy above... but first put your old xorg.conf file back in place
[04:46] <raffytaffy> to much automatic stuff beign spawned
[04:46] <fdoving> berkes: you should start from a livecd and run fsck.ext3 with the -c options (scan for badblocks and add them to the badblock inode)
[04:46] <epimeth> fakir: envy did not work for me, I had to get the drivers for nvidia's site... just a heads up :-)
[04:46] <raffytaffy> berkes : or nuke the drive
[04:47] <Shaezsche> how do you nuke a drive?
[04:47] <Shaezsche> microwave?
[04:47] <raffytaffy> !dban
[04:47] <CarinArr> epimeth: really? what nvidia card do you have?
[04:47] <berkes> fdoving: did that. no success yet.
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dban - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <[pyro] > Shaezsche: a big electromagnet
[04:47] <raffytaffy> dereks boot and nuke - low level format
[04:47] <epimeth> CarinArr: nvidia GeForce2 MX 400
[04:47] <Shaezsche> what does that do?
[04:47] <Shaezsche> destroy it?
[04:47] <raffytaffy> excellent way to make it like new
[04:47] <Shaezsche> are you joking?
[04:47] <raffytaffy> no im not
[04:47] <raffytaffy> low level format is very good
[04:47] <CarinArr> epimeth: that a legacy one?
[04:47] <berkes> almost done with DD-ing the old drive onto the new one.
[04:48] <Shaezsche> so if i have a big magnet and rub it on my friend's laptop, he will lose his data?
[04:48] <raffytaffy> http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[04:48] <epimeth> CarinArr: borderline... I had to use old drivers, but none of the "legacy" drivers worked
[04:48] <raffytaffy> dban is best nuker around
[04:48] <[pyro] > Shaezsche: yep
[04:48] <Shaezsche> would a large solar flare from the sun erase all the data on earth's hard drives:LO LOL OL?
[04:48] <epimeth> Shaezsche: in one word: YES
[04:48] <Shaezsche> ok, but will it format like normal?
[04:48] <Shaezsche> it wont dmg my drive?
[04:48] <raffytaffy> CIA use dban to wipe drives
[04:48] <[pyro] > cant promise that
[04:48] <[pyro] > :D
[04:49] <raffytaffy> it does a 3x low level format
[04:49] <epimeth> Shaezsche: actually... the solar flare thing is a big fear we all have... it will kill lots of electronics
[04:49] <CarinArr> i have four machines with nvidia cards of diferent ages, envy worked flawlessly with every one of them. Maybe i've just been luky
[04:49] <CarinArr> lucky too
[04:49] <[pyro] > epimeth: isnt that what the atmosphere is fore?
[04:49] <[pyro] > for*
[04:49] <waylandbill> I thought with smart on hard drives now, the manufacturers don't want you low level formatting
[04:49] <epimeth> CarinArr: no... I'm just really really really unlucky :-)
[04:49] <Shaezsche> is it true that If i am working on a paper in open office and my system completely freezes Thus causing me to do a Hard Reset, i will lose my data if i am on reiserfs, but not on ext3?
[04:50] <[pyro] > waylandbill: yeah thats right, manufacturers always bitching and whining..
[04:50] <raffytaffy> dban uses a simple linux kernel / you boot it from start up. and it does 3 passes @ your HD "nuking it" meaning a complete format
[04:50] <epimeth> [pyro] : while we've done a good job fixing the hole in the ozone, I wouldn't say our protection is "optimal"
[04:50] <waylandbill> [pyro] : hehe
[04:50] <[pyro] > epimeth: lol
[04:51] <[pyro] > epimeth: you sound like a diplomat ;)
[04:51] <epimeth> raffytaffy: I just use getright for low level... I think you can choose 1-5 passes
[04:51] <dennis_> the release of the beta version was delayed to today...is there any official announcement at what time the beta will be available today?
[04:51] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: on reiserfs you'll lose your data nd the fsck will bring back all crazy junk files
[04:51] <epimeth> [pyro] : oh god no
[04:51] <CarinArr> isn't there enough to be scared of without worrying about solar flares;)
[04:51] <raffytaffy> u can choose more then 3 on dban
[04:51] <raffytaffy> 3 is default
[04:52] <Shaezsche> dystopianray: is that in debate?
[04:52] <Shaezsche> or a fact
[04:52] <dystopianray> berkes: except that it will take an enormous amount fo time
[04:52] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: fact
[04:52] <fdoving> dennis_: exactly NOW.
[04:52] <epimeth> CarinArr: no point in being scared of them... if it happens, it happens... nothing we can do :-)
[04:52] <Jucato> fdoving: oooh
[04:52] <dennis_> fdoving: tnx
[04:52] <Shaezsche> dystopianray: what filesystem do you use? would i lose it if i used xfs?
[04:52] <raffytaffy> i think the polar ice caps will drown our puters long bfre a solar flare nukes them
[04:52] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: xfs buffers heavily and so you will lose a lot if your system goes down
[04:53] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: just stick to ext3 unless you have some specific reason not to
[04:53] <Shaezsche> i want speed
[04:53] <[pyro] > raffytaffy: yeah and the penguins will rule the world then
[04:53] <Shaezsche> i got the need
[04:53] <raffytaffy> penguins will drown without ice to live on
[04:53] <dystopianray> Shaezsche: you're turning into a ricer
[04:53] <Shaezsche> whats ricer
[04:53] <berkes> Shaezsche: then I think a simple softraid has more effect then the FS.
[04:53] <dystopianray> !ricer
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ricer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <dystopianray> aww no ricer entry :(
[04:53] <sandro__> hi all .. i just "found out" that i might be able to connect to our exchange2k3 server through "evolution" .. so running adept - requesting install for "evolutioN" results in 54 (!) packages to install, including at least 10 or more called "gnome_whatever" and "something_gnome" ... since im running kde i feel confused .. is it "save" to install evolution with the exchange connector or should i keep me hands off ?!
[04:54] <ssickle> So will they be updating the repository with the Beta release?
[04:54] <dystopianray> sandro__: evolution is a gnome app
[04:54] <berkes> sandro__: unless you have other reasons then just exchange, i'd say: stick to kmail. kmail can do exchange too; afaiks
[04:54] <dennis_> the beta folder has been created
[04:55] <[pyro] > nn all
[04:55] <berkes> you can run evolution on KDE fine, but it integrates horribly.
[04:55] <dystopianray> beta is out!
[04:55] <Shaezsche> i hope kubuntu feisty has better wireless support. Edgy didnt work for me, while dapper did
[04:56] <epimeth> dystopianray: we know!
[04:56] <dystopianray> :(
[04:56] <srikanth> Hi..I am getting problems when trying to update ..... it keeps failing with the following message "gzip returned error code (1)"
[04:56] <jhutchins> dystopianray: beta what?
[04:56] <srikanth> any ideas??
[04:56] <epimeth> dystopianray: now go sit in a corner
[04:56] <dystopianray> jhutchins: feisty beta
[04:56] <jhutchins> Ah, yes.
[04:57] <dystopianray> where is the kubuntu feisty beta torrent?
[04:57] <jhutchins> dystopianray: #ubuntu+1
[04:57] <VR_> dystopianray, i dont think it's out yet
[04:57] <raffytaffy> ants in your pants
[04:57] <dystopianray> VR_: it is
[04:57] <geniusvicks> How do I change from KDE to Gnome? Do I hav to download the entire ubuntu again ?
[04:58] <dystopianray> jhutchins: i'm already there
[04:58] <dystopianray> geniusvicks: gnome sucks :S
[04:58] <raffytaffy> genui : sudo apt-get install ubuntu desktop
[04:58] <dystopianray> geniusvicks: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:58] <raffytaffy> ubuntu-desktop **
[04:58] <wolferine> what does the <Directory *> refer to in the proFTPd.conf?
[04:58] <epimeth> geniusvicks: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:58] <Jucato> geniusvicks: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[04:58] <raffytaffy> sudo rm -rf
[04:58] <raffytaffy> lol
[04:58] <wolferine> the current connected users dir?
[04:58] <Skuller> !gnome
[04:59] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:59] <VR_> dystopianray, oh ok... i was still waiting for it. i guess it is out
[04:59] <geniusvicks> dystopianray I beg to differ. KDE seems to be too slow and graphics heavy
[04:59] <dystopianray> geniusvicks: gnome is more resource intensive than kde
[04:59] <raffytaffy> geniusvicks : you can also use garnome
[04:59] <geniusvicks> Or maybe coz I'm using Beryl ?
[04:59] <Jucato> please don't go into a GNOME vs. KDE argument here
[04:59] <epimeth> geniusvicks: probably
[04:59] <Jucato> geniusvicks: anything that uses Beryl will be resource intensive
[04:59] <CarinArr> geniusvicks: it'll be beryl for sure
[04:59] <epimeth> can we not get into a kde/gnome discussion?
[04:59] <Skuller> or XFCE
[05:00] <dystopianray> twm is better than gnome and kde combined
[05:00] <Jucato> epimeth: no. it's considered offtopic. there's #kubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:00] <geniusvicks> But Dapper Drake (Gnome) wuz faster than Edgy Eft(KDE)
[05:00] <epimeth> Jucato: reread my post
[05:00] <Shaezsche> use the 386 kernel, its way faster
[05:00] <Shaezsche> the generic one sucks
[05:00] <Jucato> epimeth: ok :)
[05:00] <raffytaffy> i have 5 dif DM's installed:P
[05:00] <CarinArr> uhm..
[05:00] <Jucato> !generic | Shaezsche
[05:00] <ubotu> Shaezsche: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[05:01] <CarinArr> how is 386 kernel faster?
[05:01] <geniusvicks> Anyway when is the next Ubuntu release
[05:01] <Shaezsche> i know
[05:01] <CarinArr> wouldn't that defeat the purpose of generic?
[05:01] <Jucato> geniusvicks: April 19 or later
[05:01] <Shaezsche> the 386 one works much better
[05:01] <Skuller> !686 | Skuller
[05:01] <geniusvicks> Jucato thanks.
[05:01] <raffytaffy> i cant stand 386 or generic
[05:01] <Shaezsche> most laptops wont speedstep without the 386
[05:01] <Shaezsche> raffy try mandriva, they have a ton of kernel options
[05:01] <Skuller> \msg ubotu !i686
[05:02] <raffytaffy> i install my own Shaezshe
[05:02] <CarinArr> what's wrong with the generic one
[05:02] <Shaezsche> raffy that sucks, when its time to patch them
[05:02] <jhutchins> Skuller: Forward slash.
[05:02] <Shaezsche> for security holes
[05:02] <Shaezsche> i like doing that through the repo
[05:02] <raffytaffy> i use ketchup to patch them auto
[05:02] <CarinArr> i'm not arguing, just don't know that much about it
[05:02] <raffytaffy> i dont mind the work
[05:02] <Shaezsche> i dont know what that is
[05:02] <Skuller> jhutchins: yes...i figured that..thnx
[05:02] <raffytaffy> !ketchup
[05:02] <ubotu> ketchup: update utility for linux-kernel sources. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.8-0.1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 84 kB
[05:03] <sandro__> sry had a phonecall - last thing i know is that ONLY evolution can handle exchange2003 servers
[05:03] <sandro__> otherwise i have to stick with "outlook web access" :)
[05:03] <nubuntu93> can someone tell me how to install a gnome theme? when i drag it to the theme preferences window, it says it's not the right file format.
[05:03] <raffytaffy> did u unpack it first
[05:03] <Skuller> what will happen if i  put alias vim=emacs in my /etc/profile?
[05:03] <epimeth> sandro__: kmail syncs with exchange, too
[05:03] <jhutchins> sandro__: Exchange servers can do standard pop and imap.  Connecting using the Exchange protocol requires a licen$ed client extension.
[05:04] <epimeth> sandro__: and its okay to use gnome apps in kde
[05:04] <Jucato> nubuntu93: try in #ubuntu
[05:04] <nubuntu93> no, am i supposed to? sry im new to linux
[05:04] <epimeth> jhutchins: but the whole point is to have the joint calendars/contacts/folders
[05:04] <jhutchins> nubuntu93: kubuntu is ubntu with kde instead of gnome.
[05:04] <nubuntu93> oh sorry
[05:04] <raffytaffy> i call it all buntu
[05:05] <sandro__> ok thank you .. so ill ask my admin to "activate" imap since i think its turned off and i try kmail .. if i dont succeed ill try my luck on evolution! thanks for your insights
[05:05] <epimeth> sandro__: good luck!
[05:05] <sandro__> thanks agaiN! :) have a nice weekend and also a nice cup of (k)ubuntu :)
[05:05] <Skuller> can anyone please tell me what will happen if i  put alias vim=emacs in my /etc/profile?
[05:05] <epimeth> what I'd like to know is why more people aren't using open xchange?
[05:05] <Kobie> can some one help me please ?
[05:06] <epimeth> Skuller: typing vim will run emacs
[05:06] <epimeth> Kobie: just ask the question! :-)
[05:06] <wolferine> what does the <Directory *> refer to in the proFTPd.conf?
[05:06] <jhutchins> Skuller: Why don't you try it and find out?
[05:06] <Skuller> epimeth: still no idea
[05:06] <epimeth> Skuller: ???
[05:06] <Skuller> jhutchins: umm....i got it as a result of @lart Skuller in kubuntu-offtopic
[05:06] <Kobie> i use dsl connection , after a while it jut disconnects from it self and i need to do poff and pon dsl-provider again and again
[05:06] <epimeth> Skuller: reguardless... it is a Good Thing to do
[05:07] <fdoving> wolferine: all directories.
[05:07] <Kobie> what can i do ?
[05:07] <Skuller> epimeth: ok then...thanks...hehe
[05:07] <raffytaffy> lower your MTU Kobie
[05:07] <Kobie> MTU ?
[05:07] <raffytaffy> oi
[05:08] <Kobie> what's that ?
[05:08] <Kobie> MTU
[05:08] <raffytaffy> max trasmision unit
[05:08] <epimeth> Kobie: Maximum Transmission units
[05:08] <raffytaffy> alot of ISPs have it set low
[05:08] <raffytaffy> yet routers and such are set to high
[05:08] <jhutchins> Kobie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_transmission_unit
[05:08] <raffytaffy> thus causing net dropping
[05:08] <Kobie> and how do i do set it up ?
[05:08] <epimeth> so you have to lower yours to match theirs
[05:08] <Kobie> no
[05:08] <Kobie> let me explain myself again
[05:08] <Kobie> ok ?
[05:08] <raffytaffy> ok
[05:09] <Kobie> i use dsl connection , after a while it jut disconnects from it self and i need to do poff and pon dsl-provider again and again but a download continus but mozilla wont
[05:09] <Kobie> now u understand me better ?
[05:09] <raffytaffy> disable ipv6
[05:09] <Kobie> thats ?
[05:09] <raffytaffy> oi
[05:10] <raffytaffy> in browser do "about:config"
[05:10] <raffytaffy> see if ipv6 is on
[05:10] <Kobie> just a sec
[05:10] <wolferine> ah, ok
[05:10] <wolferine> thanks
[05:11] <Kobie> it dosent apper to be there
[05:11] <Kobie> no ipv6
[05:11] <raffytaffy> also u can "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[05:11] <raffytaffy> and input these values:
[05:11] <raffytaffy> alias net-pf-10 ipv6 off alias net-pf-10 off alias ipv6 off #alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[05:11] <raffytaffy> save and reboot
[05:11] <Kobie> are u talking to me ?
[05:11] <raffytaffy> yes lol
[05:11] <Kobie> ha ha
[05:11] <Kobie> lol
[05:13] <Kobie> you say this should do the trick
[05:13] <Kobie> ?
[05:13] <CarinArr> on a dual core machine, dyou have to do anything to make kubuntu use both cores?
[05:13] <dystopianray> CarinArr: no
[05:13] <raffytaffy> it may
[05:13] <raffytaffy> nothing is defenite
[05:13] <raffytaffy> defini8
[05:13] <dystopianray> CarinArr: default kernel supports smp
[05:13] <Kobie> u got another way ?
[05:13] <CarinArr> dystopianray: cool, thanks
[05:14] <raffytaffy> this way wont break anything...but may help..other ways may break stuff
[05:14] <dystopianray> CarinArr: if you look at /proc/cpuinfo it should show two cpus
[05:14] <Kobie> ya i see
[05:14] <Kobie> ok lets give it a try
[05:14] <Kobie> i'll be back
[05:14] <BluesKaj> Kobie, raffytaffy... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:15] <raffytaffy> blue : i just tell him how to do that a few lines up
[05:15] <CarinArr> dystopianray: any idea why one processor says 1000MHz while the other says 2000?
[05:15] <raffytaffy> carinarr : show me your unama -a
[05:15] <raffytaffy> uname*
[05:15] <dystopianray> CarinArr: cpu frequency scaling I guess, didn't knwo it worked properly with smp though
[05:16] <CarinArr> dystopianray: so i shouldn't be worried about it?;)
[05:16] <raffytaffy> is smp enabled
[05:16] <raffytaffy> ?
[05:16] <CarinArr> raffytaffy: yeah
[05:16] <wolferine> need a hand with setting up my profTPd, have a bunch of issue, anyone experienced?
[05:16] <dystopianray> CarinArr: no it's a good thing, your system will use less power and be cooler on average
[05:16] <CarinArr> Linux ginger-laptop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:16] <raffytaffy> wloferine : use a php shell ..its the easiest way
[05:16] <CarinArr> dystopianray: okay, cool;) thanks
[05:17] <raffytaffy> !webmin | wolferine
[05:17] <ubotu> wolferine: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[05:17] <dystopianray> is it ok if I post my digg submission in here about ubuntu 7.04 release?
[05:17] <raffytaffy> what :O
[05:18] <CarinArr> only just occurred to me it might not be enabled by default
[05:18] <wolferine> hehe
[05:18] <jetsaredim> can someone help with a gtk problem with my kubuntu install?
[05:18] <wolferine> thanks raffytaffy
[05:18] <raffytaffy> ok
[05:19] <jetsaredim> things like gaim and other gtk apps have a lot of rendered elements just black
[05:19] <killermach_> how do  I display the history sidebar in konqueror? the other day I did a man: on DBI but now "man:DBI" doesn't work, I must be typing something wrong
[05:19] <dystopianray> killermach_: man:/DBI ?
[05:19] <dystopianray> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_7_04_Feisty_Fawn_Beta
[05:21] <mhterres> Hi Riddel
[05:21] <mhterres> oops
[05:21] <mhterres> Riddell
[05:21] <mhterres> :-)
[05:21] <raffytaffy> what are the changes in beta
[05:21] <raffytaffy> anything significant?
[05:21] <mhterres> Is Kubuntu 7.04 Beta available ???
[05:21] <mhterres> :-)
[05:21] <ssickle> why would my keyboard stop working with the current 2.6.20-12 generic kernel? It is working fine with 2.6.20-8.
[05:22] <dystopianray> mhterres: yes, see the link I posted
[05:22] <dystopianray> raffytaffy: it has finalised artwork for one
[05:22] <mhterres> where ? ;_0
[05:22] <raffytaffy> anything else?
[05:22] <mhterres> :-)
[05:22] <dystopianray> oh you joined just after I posted
[05:23] <mhterres> dystopianray, where did you post the link ?
[05:23] <fdoving> mhterres: yes, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/
[05:24] <Hacking_Defined> hay
[05:24] <AaronCampbell> Are there any limits on drive size in kubuntu?  Like the 2tb limit in Windows XP?
[05:24] <mhterres> The final version date is avaliable ?
[05:24] <Hacking_Defined> yes
[05:24] <dystopianray> mhterres: final version is planned for april 19
[05:24] <mhterres> great
[05:24] <AaronCampbell> yay... feisty went beta!
[05:24] <raffytaffy> ii cant seem to make partitions biiger then 190 gigs with gparted
[05:24] <BluesKaj> raffytaffy , did tell him how to blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
 also u can "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
 and input these values:
 alias net-pf-10 ipv6 off alias net-pf-10 off alias ipv6 off #alias net-pf-10 ipv6
 save and reboot
[05:25] <raffytaffy> that would be a no... lol...but i think this is sufficient ehh
[05:25] <dystopianray> raffytaffy: I'm pretty sure I've made 200+GB partitions with it
[05:25] <raffytaffy> what FS dyst?
[05:25] <dystopianray> ext3
[05:26] <raffytaffy> ahh i was trying to make fat32
[05:26] <dystopianray> oh :S
[05:26] <dystopianray> 200+GB of fat32 is insanity
[05:26] <BluesKaj> dystopianray , no need to insult ppl
[05:27] <Hacking_Defined> raffytaffy
[05:27] <dystopianray> BluesKaj: It was not an insult
[05:27] <Hacking_Defined> it didnt work
[05:27] <fdoving> raffytaffy: if you use 8KiB block size, ext3 can handle 32TiB filesystems.
[05:27] <Hacking_Defined> it just wont let me connect
[05:27] <raffytaffy> hmm
[05:27] <jetsaredim> raffytaffy: why would you want fat32?
[05:27] <hw__> I want to share files over our network. But when I open the share dialouge it is greyed out and the error is half hidden. I guess to much text for 2 lines. What are the requirements to share files over the network? Install samba?
[05:27] <Kobie> raffytaffy
[05:27] <Kobie> it didnt work
[05:27] <raffytaffy> for music storage
[05:27] <raffytaffy> yes i heard you
[05:27] <Kobie> it just wont let me connect
[05:28] <Kobie> k
[05:28] <dystopianray> hw__: yes, you'll need samba if you want to share over smb
[05:28] <fdoving> hw_: basically, yes.
[05:28] <jetsaredim> what advantage are you getting from fat32?
[05:28] <raffytaffy> are there any with ext3?
[05:28] <raffytaffy> it just one i picked lol
[05:28] <dystopianray> jetsaredim: interoperability
[05:28] <mefisto__> I'm having trouble with my dvd burner reading dvd's. I know everyone's going to tell me the drive's on its last legs, but is there anything else it could be? Are there any dvd drive diagnostics I can run?
[05:28] <fdoving> raffytaffy: fat32 does not support any of the linux modes/permissions.
[05:28] <jetsaredim> o - for dual boot?
[05:29] <CarinArr> that'd be the only reason you'd use fat tho wouldn't it.. if you were going to use windows as well
[05:29] <fdoving> !dvd | mefisto__
[05:29] <ubotu> mefisto__: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:29] <raffytaffy> it supports permisions..what u talking about
[05:29] <raffytaffy> chmod works on fat32
[05:29] <fdoving> raffytaffy: it doesn't support linux permissions. no.
[05:29] <loguser1> can any one advise a good irc app?
[05:29] <fdoving> you can chmod all you want, but nothing happens. you need to mount with the default permissions. and that's it.
[05:30] <fdoving> loguser1: konversation.
[05:30] <raffytaffy> its just music lol
[05:30] <loguser1> is there some called xchat?
[05:30] <jhutchins> mefisto__: Probably nothing you can do.  Have you tried cleaning it?
[05:30] <mefisto__> jhutchins: cleaning the disk?
[05:30] <CarinArr> raffytaffy: well yeah but why would you use it with linux unless you're intendint to access is through windows as well
[05:31] <jhutchins> mefisto__: Cleaning the drive.
[05:31] <raffytaffy> i dont use windows
[05:31] <hw__> dystopianray: Thx, now I can do something with the dialouge...
[05:31] <CarinArr> so you don't need fat32.. problem solved;)
[05:31] <ssickle> loguser1: kopete, or gaim are good gui irc apps, and I like irssi on the command line.
[05:31] <mefisto__> jhutchins: how do I clean the drive?
[05:31] <raffytaffy> but this is external drive...and whos to say i wont one day take it over a friends house and he will wanna use it
[05:31] <dystopianray> some windows me guy might want to access the drive
[05:31] <raffytaffy> and most ppl dont use linux
[05:31] <loguser1> i cant see "wine" in adept. why?
[05:31] <ssickle> xchat works as well.
[05:31] <jhutchins> mefisto__: get a lens cleaning disk.
[05:32] <loguser1> i cant see xchat too.        why?
[05:32] <Kobie> raffytaffy
[05:32] <fdoving> raffytaffy: make one small fat32 partition where you put the drivers from fs-driver.org
[05:32] <mefisto__> jhutchins: are they the same for cds and dvds?
[05:32] <Kobie> can ya help me dude ?
[05:32] <CarinArr> well no, but then the reason you're using it is still that you want to be able to use it with windows
[05:32] <jhutchins> mefisto__: Yes.  You can also blow the dust out with compressed air.
[05:32] <CarinArr> regardless of whether you want to use it on your own machine;)
[05:32] <Skuller> !ask | Kobie
[05:32] <ubotu> Kobie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:32] <jetsaredim> why not just go to a windows box and format it
[05:32] <iarwain> hiya, does anyone know why my cursor moves a 'tab' further when i hit tab in my terminal? How can i correct this?
[05:32] <jetsaredim> and then mount it up under Linux
[05:32] <raffytaffy> do what the bot says hehe
[05:32] <Kobie> no dude i allready asked and he tried to help me
[05:33] <Kobie> ok well
[05:33] <jhutchins> !software | loguser1
[05:33] <ubotu> loguser1: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[05:33] <mefisto__> jhutchins: tried compressed air, no difference. cd's work flawlessly, it's just dvds. but there are 2 separate read heads for cd and dvd, right?
[05:33] <Kobie> after a while my dsl connection disconnects in ifconfig ppp0 upper to be up a download continues but mozilla wont
[05:34] <wolferine> how do I link to a dir /ftp from my /user/ftp so that I can view the contents using proFTPd ?
[05:34] <jhutchins> mefisto__: Depends on the drive, but usually they're combined.
[05:34] <dystopianray> wolferine: mount -o bind /user/ftp /ftp
[05:34] <fdoving> wolferine: ln -s /user/ftp /ftp
[05:34] <raffytaffy> oi enough questions for one day. i need sleep. later folks
[05:34] <loguser1> but why i cant see wine and xchat
[05:34] <wolferine> are you sure?
[05:34] <wolferine> u each have a different answer
[05:35] <Kobie> after a while my dsl connection disconnects in ifconfig ppp0 upper to be up a download continues but mozilla wont
[05:35] <iarwain> hiya, does anyone know why my cursor moves a 'tab' further when i hit tab in my terminal? How can i correct this?
[05:35] <dystopianray> wolferine: proftpd might not follow symlinks, I don't know, if it doesn't then a bind mount is necessary
[05:35] <ssickle> loguser1: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[05:35] <wolferine> ok, does any know?
[05:35] <wolferine> anyone*
[05:36] <Kobie> after a while my dsl connection disconnects in ifconfig ppp0 upper to be up a download continues but mozilla wont any one can help ?
[05:36] <fdoving> wolferine: try.
[05:36] <fdoving> wolferine: i belive it is configurable. (to follow symlinks or not)
[05:37] <Kobie> after a while my dsl connection disconnects in ifconfig ppp0 upper to be up a download continues but mozilla wont any one can help ?
[05:37] <wolferine> hmm
[05:38] <iarwain> hiya, does anyone know why my cursor moves a 'tab' further when i hit tab in my terminal? How can i correct this?
[05:38] <jhutchins> Kobie: Please don't repeat yourself so often.  If someone can help you, they will answer.
[05:39] <Kobie> thanks
[05:39] <Kobie> ok
[05:39] <fdoving> iarwain: i think you use /bin/sh as your shell.
[05:39] <killermach_> dystopianray: KDE Man Viewer Error for man:/DBI
[05:39] <jhutchins> Kobie: It may be that your ISP is dropping your connection.  You are not clear about "mozilla won't continue" - I presume you mean the connection drops when you're web browsing but now if you're doing a continuous download.
[05:39] <loguser1> ssickle: how to have universe rep enabled
[05:39] <jetsaredim> anyone seeing a problem with gtk apps with gtk2-engines-qt installed?
[05:39] <fdoving> iarwain: if you run 'bash' in the console, does it still do that?
[05:39] <dystopianray> killermach_: hrrm, maybe there is a problem with the man:/ ioslave
[05:39] <killermach_> dystopianray: if I do "perldoc DBI" from konsole, it works. so I know it's there
[05:40] <killermach_> I can do "man:perlvar" and this works
[05:40] <jhutchins> Kobie: You may be able to set a keepalive signal in your ppp configuration, or just run a "ping" command in the background.
[05:40] <iarwain> fdoving, it then gives me a usefull terminal xD
[05:40] <iarwain> fdoving, how can i set this as default?
[05:40] <dystopianray> killermach_: oh it's not a man page?
[05:40] <killermach_> I just did this 2 days ago.. my history says 1000 entries..
[05:40] <Kobie> and how do i set keepalive ?
[05:40] <jetsaredim> what is the dev site?
[05:40] <fdoving> iarwain: 'chsh -s /bin/bash'
[05:40] <jetsaredim> can't remember the url
[05:40] <killermach_> if I do "man DBI" from console it works
[05:41] <dystopianray> hrrm, kde must be looking in a different place or something
[05:41] <iarwain> fdoving, thanks!
[05:41] <fdoving> killermach_, what about #DBI in konqueror?
[05:41] <killermach_> I've had the history bar on the left before.. but it's been awhile.. can't figure out how to display it again
[05:41] <fdoving> killermatch_, F9
[05:41] <jhutchins> Kobie: Sorry, back when I used ppp it was all text-based configuration, no clue what to do with the GUI.
[05:42] <Kobie> no need for gui
[05:42] <Kobie> gime me in cli
[05:42] <Kobie> give
[05:42] <loguser1> anyone there?
[05:42] <jhutchins> Kobie: Totally different system, but that's the setting you would look for.
[05:42] <Kobie> what ? lol
[05:42] <Kobie> say again
[05:43] <jhutchins> Kobie: This may help: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Diald-HOWTO.html
[05:43] <Kobie> i must have misse
[05:43] <jhutchins> keepalive is the setting you would want to adjust/look for.
[05:43] <killermach_> fdoving: dystopianray: my apologies.. I'm shelled into another machine, and I was on another workstation, locally "man DBI" does not work. sorry ssheeesh
[05:43] <dystopianray> hehe, it's ok
[05:43] <fdoving> killermatch_, then you're missing the libdbi-perl package.
[05:44] <jhutchins> killermach_: most man pages would be in lower case, try man dbi or apropopos dbi.
[05:45] <Kobie>  jhutchins : its not hellping
[05:45] <loguser1> why the hell i cant see wine and xchat?
[05:45] <Kobie> it connects
[05:46] <Kobie> but after a while it disconnetcts for mozilla and amsn
[05:47] <Kobie> from
[05:47] <Kobie> from*
[05:47] <babag_> got serial mouse working.
[05:47] <Kobie> why cant i hear my mp3 files
[05:47] <Kobie> ?
[05:47] <ssickle> loguser1: are you using adept?
[05:48] <babag_> followed advice on ubuntu howto site but didn't work.
[05:48] <loguser1> yes
[05:48] <Skuller> !mp3 | Kobie
[05:48] <ubotu> Kobie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:48] <babag_> what worked was editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand.
[05:49] <babag_> changed /dev/input/mice to /dev/ttyS0
[05:49] <ssickle> there is an option that says something about managing repositories
[05:49] <babag_> changed ExplorerPS/2 to Microsoft
[05:49] <babag_> works fine after that
[05:50] <jhutchins> babag_: Write it up, post it to the wiki.
[05:50] <babag_> hey, aren't you on the other channel?
[05:51] <babag_> seems a lot of crossover these days
[05:51] <ssickle> open that and add a line like the following:
[05:51] <ssickle> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[05:51] <jhutchins> babag_: I'm on a dozen channels on three networks.
[05:52] <babag_> doh!
[05:53] <ssickle> loguser1: replace edgy with the whichever version of you are using, and if not in the US check the kubuntu site for repos nearer to you.
[05:54] <babag_> where's the wiki? don't see link on support page.
[05:54] <ssickle> loguser1: Also google for adding kubuntu repositories and you should find more inclusive instructions.
[05:55] <Riddell> ** beta out http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php
[05:55] <loguser1> ssickle:  i just reinstaalled kubuntu from the same cd i want using before. and before it was showing wine and chat. i just clicked 'update'    for both.       why it is not showing now?
[05:55] <jhutchins> !easysources
[05:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:56] <loguser1> i was using*
[05:56] <mefisto__> loguser1:  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ might be useful
[05:57] <loguser1> ok
[05:57] <loguser1> how can i have more options for resolution and its refresh rate?
[05:58] <apokryphos> !resolution | loguser1
[05:58] <ubotu> loguser1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:58] <allanhenryee> alow
[05:59] <wolferine> is it difficult to change permissions on an NTFS drive?
[05:59] <allanhenryee> testando
[06:00] <jhutchins> wolferine: NTFS uses ACL instead of unix permissions.
[06:00] <Alonea> allo
[06:00] <wolferine> which means I have to do what?
[06:00] <jhutchins> wolferine: How are you accessing it and what are you trying to do?
[06:01] <wolferine> well, its set to 640 atm
[06:01] <loguser1> ubotu:  i already restarted manully. the whole computer. but still cant see wine and xchat
[06:01] <allanhenryee> alonea
[06:01] <wolferine> i was wanted to allow non-root to view it
[06:02] <jhutchins> loguser1: Try running them from alt-F2 or from a console.  Wine usually isn't run by itself but is used to run windows programs.
[06:02] <jhutchins> wolferine: Check your mount options.
[06:02] <wolferine> man mount you mean?
[06:03] <loguser1> jhutchins:  i cant see it in adept
[06:03] <jhutchins> That's probably because they're already installed.
[06:03] <jhutchins> loguser1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[06:03] <killermach_> fdoving: dystopianray: I installed libdbi-perl and now man:DBI works
[06:04] <CtEE> Hello!
[06:04] <dystopianray> killermach_: ah awesome
[06:04] <jhutchins> wolferine: man fstab, cat fstab
[06:04] <CtEE> im having soem problems installing kubuntu...
[06:04] <loguser1> ssickle:  i just reinstaalled kubuntu from the same cd i want using before. and before it was showing wine and chat. i just clicked 'update'    for both.       why it is not showing now?
[06:04] <CtEE> When i try to install it then the screen freezes after mabye 30sek and some green starnge lines are added to the screen
[06:05] <CtEE> i think the green lines should be some kind of text but im not sure... what can be the problem?
[06:06] <allanhenryee> exit
[06:06] <pollyo> Anyone able to get qemu to use a partition to load windows xp?
[06:06] <loguser1> thanks
[06:07] <AaronCampbell> I asked this a little bit ago, but never saw an answer: Are there any limits on drive size in kubuntu?  Like the 2tb limit in Windows XP?
[06:12] <BluesKaj> AaronCampbell, I think the size limit is determined by the chipset on the MoBo in Windows..AFAIK there is no such limit in linux ... I could be wrong , but I've never heard of such a thing... jhutchins?
[06:14] <jhutchins> Not a limit you're likely to run into.
[06:15] <jhutchins> http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/question/static/maximum-partition-size.php
[06:15] <babag_> after making changes to xorg.conf how do i get the system to recognize the changes without a reboot?
[06:16] <easytiger> babag_:  ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:16] <jhutchins> babag_: Restart X.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is easy, or log out.
[06:17] <babag_> thx
[06:17] <jhutchins> wolferine: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[06:18] <wolferine> yeah, I think I am gonna attempt a work around
[06:18] <wolferine> get all the files off, then convert to reiser
[06:19] <jhutchins> wolferine: 1) All you need to do is change the usermask, as that page shows, 2) reiser is not a good idea, no longer fully supported.
[06:20] <jhutchins> wolferine: If you're going to use a linux filesystem, use ext3.
[06:20] <fdoving> xfs is also good.
[06:20] <wolferine> well, this is just a storage space
[06:21] <wolferine> as long as I can read/write, w/o issues, is really all I need
[06:21] <fdoving> ext3 then.
[06:21] <slestak> i have the Option "XkbOptions" "altwin:super_win" set in xorg.conf, but I still cannot map my win key.  not sure where to look next.
[06:22] <slestak> i have restarted X already.
[06:23] <graaaugrg> /w $me
[06:23] <graaaugrg> ops sry :p
[06:24] <slestak> what has ahppened with H Reisers legal troubles?  i never heard the end of that
[06:24] <bronze_0_1> he has been charged and is being prosecuted
[06:25] <jhutchins> http://fsbench.netnation.com/
[06:26] <slestak> will kubuntu system settings/ Keyboard override Xkb options in xorg.conf?  i cannot get win key working for beryl bindings.
[06:28] <kristjan__> slestak: interesting, cause win key itself works in kde, e.g. amarok
[06:28] <jhutchins> slestak: Yes, kde does override xorg keybindings.
[06:29] <jhutchins> slestak: kubuntu seems to have problems with the win key, there may be a faq or howto on it. (Let me know if you find one.)
[06:29] <DoctorGonzo> :(
[06:29] <babag_> jhutchins: well, i've written up an addition to the serial mouse wiki but have to wait for registration instructions.
[06:30] <babag_> hopefully will come soon
[06:30] <jhutchins> slestak: Oh. Beryl.  Now you have three or four things competing to configure the keyboard.  Good luck!
[06:30] <jhutchins> babag_: Great!
[06:31] <slestak> kristjan__: my win key doesnt have any bindings in Amaork/Shortcuts.  jhutchins all faqs seem to point to XkbOptions being a DE agnostic way to fix it, but for me it is inneffective
[06:31] <acemo> where can i get speedstep-centrino?
[06:32] <kristjan__> slestak: does the win key work in gnome with beryl?
[06:32] <guiaraihdaoisd> hi everybody
[06:33] <slestak> kristjan__: sorry, dont have gnome on this laptop.
[06:33] <guiaraihdaoisd> bye bye
[06:36] <kristjan__> slestak: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=499389 - what is Modx?
[06:37] <kristjan__> slestak: why not try #beryl channel?
[06:37] <acemo> acemo@acemo:~$ sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino
[06:37] <acemo> FATAL: Module speedstep_centrino not found.
[06:37] <acemo> How can i get speedstep-centrino?
[06:38] <slestak> kristjan__: i see ramos uses xmodmap instead of XkbOptions.  does that go in .bashrc?  .xinitrc? http://ramseyramos.net/2007/02/26/how-to-enable-your-windows-key-as-super-key-hyper-key-in-kubuntu-and-beryl-input-enabled-zoom/
[06:39] <kristjan__> slestak: don't ask me such things, I don't have a slightest clue
[06:40] <slestak> kristjan__: lol.  np.  thanks
[06:41] <AaronCampbell> BluesKaj or jhutchins: Thanks for the link on max-size.  I am a little worried, because it looks like my raid may be over 2 tb, and I was thinking that I would install the 32bit (k)ubuntu, because aren't there problems with the 64-bit version?
[06:41] <AaronCampbell> It looks like formatting as reiser would fix the problem, but I don't know what that is...
[06:42] <AaronCampbell> sorry, I meant 4tb.  I'm looking at doing 8 drives now...I guess I could do 500G drives, and keep it under 4...
[06:42] <AaronCampbell> 4 would probably be enough anyway
[06:44] <kristjan__> AaronCampbell: what so specital about 64pc?
[06:44] <kristjan__> AaronCampbell: *64bi
[06:45] <dennis_> is there some kind of command line commando to see which version of feisty you are using?
[06:46] <Skuller> dennis_: i think the one for edgy should work too
[06:46] <bentob0x> how can I find the date of the install of linux on my machine?
[06:47] <firecrotch> bentob0x: Find some file that hasn't been modified since you installed?
[06:47] <falconcelina> hello everybody
[06:48] <dennis_> Skuller uname -a doesn't show the version
[06:48] <falconcelina> can anyone tell me how can i login as root?
[06:48] <dennis_> falconcelina, sudo and then your pass
[06:49] <firecrotch> bentob0x: Look in /boot for the earliest kernel that you can find, the modified date/time of it should give you the date you installed it
[06:49] <Skuller> dennis_: i thought there was some other command....which returns with  the results like 'Kubuntuu 6.10' or something like that...i am sorry i dont know the command...look for ways of checking version no. in kubuntu on google
[06:50] <dennis_> k, tns Skuller
[06:50] <blekos> hi, i did purge to Kontact (from adept manager) but when i re-installed it, my old mails etc where there
[06:50] <blekos> how can I completely remove Kontact?
[06:51] <soulrider> are te repos slow for everyone else or just me? im donwloading at 12kb =/
[06:51] <bentob0x> found it, thx guys
[06:51] <soulrider> blekos: sudo aptitude purge kontact
[06:51] <firecrotch> soulrider: Yeah, I just downloaded some updates and it was quite slow
[06:51] <soulrider> maybe ebcause of the beta release
[06:51] <firecrotch> soulrider: Yeah, I just noticed that
[06:52] <firecrotch> soulrider:  the repos will be slow for a couple of days, probably
[06:52] <soulrider> i remember last time i downlaoded edgy
[06:52] <soulrider> it was kinda hard to find the torrents
[06:52] <soulrider> they should be at plain sight
[06:52] <ned__> i'm using adept to update, and as soon as the download finished, when it started to install updates (Preparing...) it gives me the message: "Debconf: Incorrect nice value Please enter an integer between -20 and 19"
[06:53] <soulrider> ned__: i never got that before =/
[06:53] <ned__> hmm
[06:53] <firecrotch> ned__: Are you using Feisty?  I had the same problem, but it doesn't really seem to affect anything
[06:53] <ned__> i'm using feisty
[06:53] <cvk77> did anyone else notice that kasbar doesn't update itself correctly?
[06:53] <ned__> yeah, should i just click cancel?
[06:53] <firecrotch> ned__: What's the other option?
[06:55] <firecrotch> ned__:  Also, I found that just using the command line, there are no issues
[06:55] <ned__> it says next and cancel
[06:55] <ned__> next does nothing
[06:55] <ned__> i could just use command line
[06:55] <ned__> i'll try now
[06:56] <firecrotch> ned__: I think it gives you the error for each package, so if you're installing multiple packages, you'd ahve to click next several times
[06:56] <jean-benoit> !fr
[06:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:56] <ned__> i'm just trying it through the command line for now
[06:57] <ned__> it's doing fine so far
[06:58] <firecrotch> I've never liked Adept anyways
[06:59] <ned__> it's ok, not great though i guess
[07:01] <aluevera> hi
[07:01] <blekos> i did sudo aptitude purge kontact but when i reinstall konctat my mailboxes are still there!! is there a way to remove ALL settings of kontact
[07:02] <aluevera> plz i need help where is the fault: http://www.otaku-empire.de/pics/Bildschirmphoto1.png
[07:02] <aluevera> same in synaptic, too
[07:02] <Skuller> blekos: mos prolly in /home/.kde/share/apps/kontact
[07:03] <aluevera> someone help?
[07:03] <PF-Away> aluevera: use Konqueror/Adept;)
[07:03] <PF-Away> aluevera: also, try to run "LANG=C; firefox" in a konsole
[07:04] <PF-Away> LANG=C helped with a similar problem I had with Opera
[07:04] <aluevera> PF-Away: hmm well i think its a gtk probs
[07:04] <aluevera> you mean it is the locale?
[07:04] <PF-Away> aluevera: it probably doesn't know what it is or something
[07:04] <PF-Away> just try to run it prefixed with LANG=C
[07:04] <aluevera> k someone other know this problem?
[07:05] <aluevera> but only this apps have the prblem
[07:05] <PF-Away> aluevera: it was only opera here
[07:08] <me_> hhi all
[07:08] <PF-Away> hi me
[07:08] <me_> Please i have a quersion
[07:08] <PF-Away> ok
[07:08] <PF-Away> just ask
[07:09] <me_> i wanna make shortcut to change the language by using hotkey in the keyboard
[07:09] <me_> i`m using KDE
[07:11] <PF-Away> me_: you can ask in #kde
[07:11] <PF-Away> i think there's more active people there
[07:11] <me_> thanks dear :)
[07:12] <PF-Away> no problem, just ask your question
[07:13] <aluevera> well nobody know the problem?
[07:13] <aluevera> http://www.otaku-empire.de/pics/Bildschirmphoto1.png
[07:13] <aluevera> it sucks
[07:15] <PF-Away> aluevera: did it work with prepending LANG=C?
[07:16] <fdoving> aluevera: ouch, regular kde apps works right?
[07:16] <fdoving> yeah, i can see that, nevermind.
[07:16] <kristjan_> lots of people are having trouble installing kde themes; kubuntu needs a howto or wiki or something
[07:16] <aluevera> fdoving: yes only synaptic and firefox
[07:17] <aluevera> (firefox-bin:25001): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
[07:17] <fdoving> aluevera: kmenu -> run command -> 'kcontrol' -> appearance -> gtk styles ... -> try another font.
[07:17] <aluevera> in the konsole i can see that
[07:17] <BluesKaj> anyone have a problem with K9Copy freezing and becoming unresponsive halfway thru copying a dvd as an iso file
[07:18] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: yes, I had that problem, but only with one particular dvd
[07:18] <aluevera> fdoving: no, the same
[07:19] <family> hi I am using kubuntu with beryl and aqu(what ever).  When I open new menus they are below the menus that open them, and it does not look right, how do I change this?
[07:19] <fdoving> aluevera: try a few fonts..
[07:19] <JuJuBee> Anybody tell me how to allow server.name.com/~username  ?  I thought apache turned this on by default.
[07:19] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: wasn't halfway, it was muuch earlier, about 20-30 sec after starting
[07:21] <PF-Away> !compiz
[07:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:22] <aluevera> fdoving: well i try now 5 fonts but all mistake
[07:22] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: do you have "quick scan" on, in settings>dvd ?
[07:24] <aluevera> i think its a gtk prob?
[07:24] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, I have the prob with every dvd ...fortunately I have AcetoneISO which works very well , but I'm still curious about what is causing the K9Copy to fail
[07:24] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: I could never get it to copy anything without the quick scan setting on
[07:26] <BluesKaj> really mefisto__ ...wonder why ?
[07:27] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: perhaps my dvd drive? right now I have trouble reading dvd's at all, so maybe it's time to buy a new drive
[07:28] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, my dvd drive is fine (knocks on wood) , otherwise.
[07:28] <PF-Away> do i need a lot of gnome crap to run compiz?
[07:30] <fdoving> PF-Away: no.
[07:30] <PF-Away> not even for configuring?
[07:33] <aluevera> (synaptic:29328): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed
[07:33] <aluevera> this is the fault from synaptic
[07:34] <aluevera> the output in konsole
[07:34] <meme-1> Good afternoon or morning or evening folks! Is anyone familiar with Amaya (web dev. s/w). Every time I start it, Amaya 9.51 immediately closes. I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling with no change.
[07:34] <NightBird> meme-1, try starting it from the terminal
[07:34] <NightBird> it may cause some info to be print out
[07:34] <meme-1> Failing this... can anyone suggest another graphical web editor?
[07:34] <NightBird> which you can use to debug
[07:35] <meme-1> Nightbird: thx... will try.
[07:35] <PF-Away> isn't depending on only compiz-gnome a bit stupid of the compiz metapackage?
[07:35] <NightBird> meme-1, I don't... I do too much dynamic/AJAX programming for something like that to be usefull :P
[07:35] <PF-Away> when there's a separate compiz-kde package?
[07:36] <aluevera> well the only way is reinstall the system? :D
[07:37] <NightBird> aluevera: wha?
[07:37] <aluevera> NightBird: no, at my problem?
[07:37] <aluevera> NightBird: no, at my problem!
[07:38] <NightBird> aluevera: my thoughts? try apt-get remove and then apt-get install on the packages acting up..
[07:38] <NightBird> so... synaptic and Pango...
[07:38] <meme-1> "The program 'amaya' received an X Window System error."
[07:38] <NightBird> I would try removing then installing Pango first though
[07:38] <meme-1> NightBird: You're absolutely correct! Lot's of error messages such as: ....
[07:38] <meme-1> I got that backwards.
[07:38] <ecker> need me some help ...  i have my wireless card installed according to ndiswapper says the drivers installe and the hardware is present, along with lspci, anyhow iwconfig , ifconfig does not show anything about wlan0 heres my paste.bin  http://ace.pastey.net/9057-3pja
[07:39] <BluesKaj> nope mefisto__ , turning off quickscan didn't help , K9copy still freezes at 48%
[07:39] <NightBird> meme-1: heh...
[07:39] <NightBird> meme-1: well..... that does sound quite odd...
[07:39] <meme-1> NightBird: Does that mean the app is for x only?
[07:39] <NightBird> meme-1: the x server implementation shouldn't matter so long as they both support the same feature set
[07:39] <meme-1> NightBird: There are quite a few more errors.
[07:40] <NightBird> which programs should hopefully be robust enough to survive an optional feature not being available..
[07:40] <Mena> Fiesty Beta is out :)
[07:40] <NightBird> Mena: shouldn't that be out sometime next month or so?
[07:40] <NightBird> meme-1: what's the first error?
[07:40] <aluevera> NightBird: there is no package names pango
[07:40] <meme-1> Nightbird: Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_colormap: assertion `!GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED (widget)' failed
[07:40] <Mena> no its tody
[07:41] <Mena> but its not stable yet its beat :)
[07:41] <NightBird> aluevera: what about Cairo? or something like pango..
[07:41] <Mena> NightBird, #ubuntu+1
[07:42] <aluevera> how can i search for packages they are installed with pacman?
[07:42] <aluevera> apt-get, sry :D
[07:42] <meme-1> NightBird: Seems like this error is "common" did a Google search
[07:42] <Mena> Bye With God Bless :)
[07:42] <NightBird> apt-cache search
[07:42] <NightBird> meme-1: hm...
[07:42] <fdoving> aluevera: dpkg -l package
[07:42] <aluevera> apt-cache search is the search for all packages
[07:42] <aluevera> and not installed?
[07:42] <NightBird> indeed
[07:43] <NightBird> apt-cache search will search all known packages
[07:43] <Bauldrick> How do I configure Knetworkmanager to start my wireless connection at startup?
[07:43] <aluevera> how can i find the installed packages about cairo and pango?
[07:44] <meme-1> NightBird: What is DRI?  (complete context: runnly DLX without DRI?)  Apparently this can cause Amaya to fail this way.
[07:45] <NightBird> meme-1: DRI is a way for X drivers to enteract 'directly' with hardware.  It's typically used for OpenGL programs, and other programs that get special hardware acceleration
[07:45] <aluevera> dpkg -l cairo <-- nothing , dpkg -l pango <-- nothing
[07:45] <wolferine> looking for a tutorial on adding menu items (from scratch) in gnome ( I have seen similar things done in the ubuntu guide) ?
[07:45] <NightBird> meme-1: try 'grep "dri" /var/log/Xorg.0.log' in the console and see if there is an error message from dri
[07:45] <abortd_> hm
[07:46] <aluevera> hello?
[07:46] <NightBird> aluevera, what about apt-cache search?
[07:46] <aluevera> i tell me all packages :D but not all installed
[07:46] <abortd_> hello?
[07:46] <NightBird> wolferine: you might want to ask in #ubuntu instead of #kubuntu for gnome specific applications(since kubuntu is based on kde, while ubuntu is gnome based)
[07:46] <aluevera> i want to know which packages are installed
[07:46] <NightBird> hi abortd_
[07:47] <wolferine> +b
[07:47] <wolferine> so I cannot
[07:47] <abortd_> hell NightBird
[07:47] <abortd_> hello sorry
[07:47] <abortd_> spilled beer on my keyboard
[07:47] <NightBird> wolferine: what did you do?
[07:47] <NightBird> wolferine: well, have you tried in #gnome
[07:47] <wolferine> thats really none of your business :)
[07:47] <wolferine> yes, in there now
[07:48] <dystopianray> argh, the digg post on the feisty beta needs more diggs
[07:48] <yurimxpxman> How do I get the Novell menu in Kubuntu?
[07:48] <abortd_> !beryl
[07:48] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:48] <dystopianray> yurimxpxman: the one that looks like windows xp?
[07:48] <yurimxpxman> dystopianray: yeah
[07:49] <dystopianray> yurimxpxman: does it have a name?
[07:49] <fdoving> dystopianray: kickoff
[07:49] <meme-1> NightBird: (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23
[07:49] <yurimxpxman> dystopianray: In GNOME, it's called the slab menu, but I don't know about the KDE version
[07:49] <Bauldrick> still cant get knetworkmanager to see my network?
[07:49] <dystopianray> yurimxpxman: there is probably a deb somewhere online
[07:49] <meme-1> NightBird: No actually "error" messages
[07:50] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: what wireless hardware do you have?
[07:50] <NightBird> meme-1: ah... yeah, I'd believe it...
[07:50] <aluevera> bye
[07:50] <meme-1> NightBird: just message such as what I pasted.
[07:50] <abortd_> Multimedia packages and codecs for PowerPC, PPC java and some extras
[07:50] <abortd_> does anyone know what that means?
[07:50] <NightBird> meme-1: it may be that the program is trying to use composites which aiglx doesn't support
[07:50] <NightBird> or something else that aiglx doesn't support..
[07:50] <yurimxpxman> I found it: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=50240
[07:50] <yurimxpxman> thanks for letting me know what it's called :)
[07:50] <dystopianray> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_7_04_Feisty_Fawn_Beta/
[07:51] <NightBird> if you want, you could switch to the ati/radeon driver, but suffer from incomplete hardware acceleration...
[07:51] <NightBird> but it would probably support that feature
[07:51] <Bauldrick> dyst:  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC??
[07:51] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: ah, atheros, should just work, or at least, it does for me
[07:51] <dystopianray> Bauldrick: is the signal strength strong?
[07:52] <abortd_> dystopianray: do you know what this is? "Multimedia packages and codecs for PowerPC, PPC java and some extras"
[07:52] <Bauldrick> dyst:in lwassistant show 6.5 stars
[07:52] <yurimxpxman> hmm.. I don't see the kickoff menu in the applets now that it's installed.
[07:52] <Bauldrick> 5.5!
[07:53] <Ashex|Work> dystopianray, dugg :)
[07:53] <abortd_> does that apply to me watching movies and listening to mp3s?
[07:53] <dystopianray> Ashex|Work: thanks
[07:53] <dystopianray> abortd_: are you using a ppc machine?
[07:53] <abortd_> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////what is that?
[07:53] <abortd_> err
[07:54] <abortd_> i hate my keyboard
[07:54] <LjL> PowerPC is a CPU architecture, used (among other things) on some Macintosh computers
[07:54] <abortd_> oh
[07:55] <dystopianray> abortd_: if you just have a standard desktop pc that can run windows, then you don't have a ppc machine
[07:55] <abortd_> does wine still run with alot of lag like it used to?
[07:56] <Bauldrick> uname -a will tell you
[07:56] <abortd_> ?
[07:56] <dystopianray> abortd_: what sort of lag?
[07:56] <NightBird> abortd_, not really...
[07:56] <fdoving> 'arch' will also tell you.
[07:57] <NightBird> it's slower than windows is(due to it being a translation layer, it's bound to be slightly slower), but for the most part it's not noticible
[07:57] <abortd_> is bleeding edge kde a bad choice?
[07:57] <abortd_> well when i played ultima online with wine i lagged alot
[07:58] <abortd_> i hate buggy stuff
[07:58] <abortd_> i like smooth running :|
[07:58] <NightBird> when it comes to games, the directX part is coming along quite well, but it's still not perfect, but many games are able to run with only a minor framerate decrease
[07:58] <dystopianray> wine is really sensitive to cpu usage, you can't even run folding@home at maximum niceness without wine stuttering like crazy
[07:58] <NightBird> abortd_: you mean the connection was laggy? or you were getting poor frame rates?
[07:58] <abortd_> frame rates
[07:58] <abortd_> !multiverse
[07:58] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:59] <dystopianray> wine lacks a DIB engine, so many 2d rendering tasks are very slow
[07:59] <NightBird> abortd_, my suggestion:  try the latest version(lots of fixes have been put into place), and see if it works out or not..
[07:59] <dystopianray> starcraft is incredibly slow in wine, even on powerful hardware
[07:59] <NightBird> yeah
[07:59] <NightBird> the DIB engine is something that really needs to get worked on
[08:00] <wolferine> is there a way to remove the boarder around a shell, so just the title bar stays?
[08:00] <wolferine> so it that specific to themes?
[08:01] <blekos> how can i see the pid of kontact so i can kill it?
[08:01] <dystopianray> I know you can remove the window border completely
[08:01] <dystopianray> blekos: killall kontact will do the job
[08:01] <fdoving> blekos: ctrl-esc - search for kontact
[08:02] <wolferine> dystopianray, you can remove/view it, or just remove entirely?
[08:02] <elbing> blekos: ps -A | grep kontact
[08:02] <elbing> how many ways xD
[08:02] <slestak> can anyone using a dell laptop verify if they are using pc105 keyboard in xorg.conf?
[08:02] <dystopianray> wolferine: remove it, but it tasks away the title bar too
[08:02] <dystopianray> slestak: is a inspiron 6000 ok?
[08:02] <wolferine> is it a hot key, or do I have to manually change the setting?
[08:03] <dystopianray> wolferine: click on the little icon on the left of the title bar, go to 'advanced -> no border'
[08:03] <slestak> dystopianray: yes.  ty.  trying to debug why i cant get super key working
[08:04] <dystopianray> slestak: yes I have pc105
[08:04] <slestak> ty
[08:04] <wolferine> then to get it back?
[08:04] <dystopianray> and my super key works, according to xev
[08:05] <blekos> i have come up with a reall strange problem [bug] , with no apparent reason kontact doesnot connect to internet to check for emails. I keep getting the message "transmission complete.no new messages". My email settings have not been altered and I also installed thunderbird and checked my email with the same settings
[08:05] <blekos> email is really important do u have any suggestions pls?
[08:05] <abortd_> i forgot how to run a terminal in root can someone fill me in
[08:05] <dystopianray> abortd_: sudo su
[08:06] <abortd_> thanks ;)
[08:06] <PF-Away> sudo -s
[08:07] <slestak> dystopianray: did you have to use XkbOptions in xorg.conf or xmodmap to get it working?
[08:07] <dystopianray> slestak: no, it just works, i'm running edgy
[08:08] <dystopianray> slestak: it has keycode 115
[08:08] <dystopianray> i only have one super key, on the left
[08:08] <abortd_> do instead of gedit /etc/apt/sources.list i would use kate /etc/apt/sources.list for kde correct?
[08:08] <abortd_> so*
[08:08] <slestak> dystopianray: xev shows 115 being pressed, and it is mapped to Super_L
[08:09] <dystopianray> slestak: but that doesn't work?
[08:09] <kristjan_> does the private command (ms? m? msg?) depend on irc client or the irc server?
[08:10] <abortd_> client
[08:10] <abortd_> i think
[08:10] <kristjan_> abortd: in konversation it is /m right?
[08:10] <abortd_> yup
[08:12] <abortd_> i hate kopete....
[08:12] <slestak> dystopianray: no, nothing in beryl responds for effects that are mapped with win.  such as ring tasklist, win + tab, nothing.  shift + F maps are working
[08:15] <meme-1> NightBird: (et al) Problem solved!  I went to the Amaya webpage and downloaded the debian version 9.54. The repos.. (Synaptic) has the older version which seems to fail for just about everyone. Amaya 9.54 works perfectly.
[08:15] <dystopianray> slestak: i've never run beryl, I don't know if my super key works with it
[08:15] <jhutchins> abortd_: /msg is a server command, /m is just an abbreviation.
[08:16] <NightBird> congrats!
[08:16] <slestak> dystopianray: thx man.  im further along than i was :)
[08:18] <meme-1> NightBird: Interesting that the Debian package Installer gave me a dumba** Windows-like message, basically telling me it isn't a good idea to use any other version but the one that is in Synaptic.
[08:19] <dystopianray> woah!
[08:19] <dystopianray> the ubuntu feisty beta digg post is up to 93 diggs aleady
[08:19] <meme-1> Who can I inform that Synaptic's repos... needs an update for Amaya (from 9.51 to 9.54)?
[08:19] <meme-1> "default repository" I mean.
[08:20] <waylandbill> dystopianray: so it did release today. I had heard rumors it was going to be.
[08:20] <dystopianray> waylandbill: yes, go to #ubuntu+1 for details, it was released a couple of hours ago or so
[08:21] <jhutchins> meme-1: File it as a bugreport/wishlist.
[08:21] <abortd_> i know jhutchins :P its pretty much like mirc :P
[08:21] <soulrider> does anyone know if theres a way to send thunderbird to my tray ?
[08:21] <waylandbill> dystopianray: I heard on #kubuntu-devel. :-)
[08:21] <dystopianray> cool
[08:21] <PF-Away> dugg:D
[08:22] <PF-Away> 111
[08:22] <PF-Away> 115 even
[08:22] <soulrider> you guys try to use torrents instead of justa  direct download, it will save bandwith :P
[08:23] <dystopianray> feisty beta hit digg front page
[08:24] <waylandbill> soulrider: with the kubuntu shorcuts dialog, you can give an icon in the tray, but it won't interact like telling of new mail or anything.
[08:24] <soulrider> waylandbill: so its kinda useless to have it running ?
[08:24] <soulrider> i might as well just use kmail then
[08:25] <waylandbill> soulrider: pretty much is only useful to hide it from the taskbar really.
[08:25] <waylandbill> soulrider: you could use a biff utility.
[08:25] <soulrider> waylandbill: whats that ?
[08:25] <Mena> Hi
[08:26] <Mena> How to change my Homefolder name
[08:26] <soulrider> hi Mena
[08:26] <soulrider> Mena: your home folder has the same name as you
[08:26] <Mena> no
[08:26] <waylandbill> biff was an old unix utility to check mail. There's a few of them. I think kbiff is one.
[08:26] <Mena> i cahnged it
[08:26] <waylandbill> !info kbiff
[08:26] <Mena> ch*
[08:26] <ubotu> kbiff: KDE mail notification utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.0-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 261 kB, installed size 1184 kB
[08:26] <soulrider> and you wanna change it back ?
[08:26] <blue|palm> is there any reason why my kde automount would just stop working for my flash drives and usb externals? Note: I installed ntfs-3g and then gparted recently
[08:27] <Mena> no the homefolder ec on the terminal its long
[08:27] <Mena> bec*
[08:27] <soulrider> i dont understand what you mean =/
[08:27] <Mena> is there a command
[08:27] <Mena> or use tunesf2
[08:29] <Mena> in any way i want to rename the home folder instead of makeing a new homefodler with the name i want :)
[08:29] <jhutchins> blue|palm: I think there may be a bugreport on that... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:29] <abortd_> mena system setting then user management?
[08:30] <jhutchins> mv /home/<oldname> /home/<newname>
[08:30] <Mena> abortd, ok
[08:30] <abortd_> listen to jhutchins
[08:30] <Mena> ok
[08:30] <abortd_> prolly easier
[08:30] <abortd_> heh
[08:31] <Mena> jhutchins, is this a coomand mv
[08:31] <Mena> command*
[08:31] <abortd_> u all have fun i gotta roll
[08:32] <jhutchins> blue|palm: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pmount/+bug/68851
[08:33] <blue|palm> jhutchins: thanks
[08:36] <waylandbill> wooo. the power manager can now set the cpu speed to performance using the tray icon in feisty. it's about time. :-)
[08:37] <metty_> hi @
[08:38] <otaku> metty_: hello
[08:39] <june> are there any signals you can send to a process that will kill it "nicely"?  (similar to clicking the X button on a window)
[08:40] <eagles0513875> how can i remove drm from music that i have
[08:40] <posingaspopular> june, "kill -process name"
[08:40] <posingaspopular> is that what you are asking?
[08:40] <posingaspopular> or killall
[08:40] <june> posingaspopular: iirc that's not a very nice kill
[08:40] <meme-1> I have a challenge for y'all. Is there a Linux graphics app that can read Corel Photo Paint (cpt) and/or Corel Draw (cdr) files?
[08:41] <june> meme-1: i don't know for sure, but you might try inkscape for corel draw and gimp (maybe) for corel photo paint
[08:41] <meme-1> I tried Gimp and Inkscape... no go.
[08:41] <june> haha
[08:41] <june> hrm
[08:42] <posingaspopular> meme-1, did you try gimpshop?
[08:42] <meme-1> Boy... I used to think it was just Adobe that shuned the Corel formats... but it seems to be a universal thing!
[08:42] <posingaspopular> june, that's what i use for my kill
[08:42] <meme-1> posingaspopular: I'll check that out now.
[08:42] <waylandbill> meme-1: that's the problem with proprietary formats, the lock in
[08:42] <june> well i'm not so much trying to kill the process as i am trying to "close" it
[08:43] <jhutchins> meme-1: How about Corel Photo Paint?
[08:43] <meme-1> waylandbill: Not entirely true because the aforementioned programs all support Adobe's formats.
[08:44] <posingaspopular> june, imsorry but what's the difference between the two
[08:44] <meme-1> jhutchins: Are you telling me that Corel is available for Linux? I thought that was a short lived thing back in '99.
[08:44] <Mena> JHUTCHINS, THANKS
[08:44] <Mena> :)
[08:44] <Mena> bYE
[08:44] <metty_> is there an email client on kubuntu?
[08:45] <blue|palm> jhutchins: it didnt really help much... when i launch gparted it says automonting disabled... could this reflect anything in kde?
[08:45] <jhutchins> meme-1: Yeah, it was just cpp using wine.
[08:45] <jhutchins> metty_: kmail, among others.
[08:46] <k3ks> hi
[08:46] <k3ks> got a question
[08:46] <jhutchins> meme-1: In spite of the fact that corel had a distro for a while.
[08:46] <meme-1> jhutchins: I am trying to avoid the use of wine as much as possible. Hmmm... that sounds like I'm on the wagon. lol
[08:46] <june> posingaspopular: well one's nicer than the other in my opinion, but i suppose the disctinctions not really there :-)
[08:46] <june> anyways i got my answer
[08:46] <k3ks> i've got a palm and if i connect it it's sometimes /dev/ttyUSB1 and sometimes /dev/ttyUSB3
[08:47] <k3ks> but i like to have it always on the same
[08:47] <waylandbill> meme-1: I try to avoid wine as well, but in this case you may need to in order to get the image out of corel format.
[08:47] <metty_> jhutchins: thx ;)
[08:47] <waylandbill> or use a windows machine to.
[08:47] <k3ks> is there a solution?
[08:48] <Mena> !ipv
[08:48] <waylandbill> meme-1: and the lock in wasn't that they supported other formats, but that they preferred their format.
[08:48] <Mena> !ipv
[08:48] <meme-1> waylandbill: Might as well just use Windows.... :-]   I also have a Windows XP machine. Basically, I am attempting to 100% replace Windows with ubuntu. It's been quite an effort.
[08:48] <Mena> !ipv6
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:49] <eagles0513875> how can i remove drm from music that i have
[08:49] <waylandbill> meme-1: while office can do rtf we'll say, doc is really it's preferred format.
[08:49] <eagles0513875> and r there any other mail utilities that can check webbased mail
[08:49] <meme-1> I am writing a book about this effort... some of the folks in here will feature... as extremely helpful! Thanks...
[08:49] <animimotus> hi
[08:49] <animimotus> find . -type f | grep .svn    -----------> list me the files I want to delete but the rm `find . -type f |grep .svn`  don't work, what's the problem please?
[08:50] <waylandbill> meme-1: as long as you don't put my photo in your book, you can use anything I say. :-P
[08:50] <meme-1> waylandbill: Everyone supports RTF... but few support Corel.    ha ha... okay no photo. :-)
[08:50] <k3ks> i've got a palm and if i connect it it's sometimes /dev/ttyUSB1 and sometimes /dev/ttyUSB3, how can ai avoid this?
[08:50] <waylandbill> meme-1: that was just a for instance.
[08:51] <jhutchins> meme-1: If it's a really old file you can open it as a TIFF file.
[08:51] <waylandbill> meme-1: besides. odf first and doc only to the windows people I deal with.
[08:51] <meme-1> I did some investigating, it seems easy to obtain Adobe's proprietory formats but I cannot find anything on Corel's graphics formats newer than 1999.
[08:51] <eagles0513875> what email programs can check webbased email
[08:52] <anthronaut> eagles: thunderbird, for example
[08:52] <eagles0513875> have u used it is it rather easy to config and everything
[08:52] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: You may find fetchmail interesting, I believe it has utilities for grabbing mail from things like gmail.
[08:53] <eagles0513875> what bout sendmail
[08:53] <k3ks>  i've got a palm and if i connect it it's sometimes /dev/ttyUSB1 and sometimes /dev/ttyUSB3, how can i avoid this?
[08:53] <KaoticEvil> is there a dist-upgrade to fiesty beta?
[08:53] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Sendmail is an ISP grade mail server - probably more than you need.
[08:53] <eagles0513875> ok
[08:54] <meme-1> Never liked Corel... darn fools!  I used to work down the street from their main office in Ottawa a few years back. 1000 employees working in a "sweat-shop" Managers used to force employees to work usually long hours.
[08:54] <eagles0513875> so u recommend thunderbird
[08:54] <bibbob> I have only few kcontrol- and kmenu-entries. Solution in http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=10082&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30&sid=aa60ae4e6f325ba923e0652127343d4a does not work. Any ideas?
[08:54] <jhutchins> k3ks: Always plug your devices in in the same order?  Other than that, let me know if you figure it out.
[08:54] <eagles0513875> hey pf
[08:54] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: I use kmail - it's good for local servers, pop, or imap.
[08:54] <BluesKaj> anyone hear anything about K9copy freezing , shortly after beginning the copy ?
[08:54] <eagles0513875> all my email is http based
[08:55] <k3ks> jhutchins: but i just unplugg the palm and replug it and it has a different "port", why?
[08:55] <eagles0513875> like gmail msn my college email which is actually java based
[08:55] <k3ks> jhutchins: wthout pluging anything other
[08:55] <jhutchins> k3ks: System probably doesn't detect the initial unplug.
[08:55] <k3ks> jhutchins: ok
[08:55] <k3ks> jhutchins: thx
[08:55] <jhutchins> k3ks: Make sure you unmount it before you unplug it.
[08:55] <k3ks> jhutchins: i don't really mount it at all
[08:56] <jhutchins> k3ks: The system does though.
[08:56] <k3ks> jhutchins: ok
[08:56] <meme-1> eagles0513875: hope you also can connect via pop3 and backup your webmail. I once lost all my mail when the webmail server crashed a few years ago. Never trust a mail server you can't control yourself.
[08:56] <Mena> How to get the Key for verification
[08:56] <eagles0513875> oh really
[08:56] <eagles0513875> i know msn does it automatically as well as the college
[08:56] <eagles0513875> do u know if gmail does
[08:57] <Mena> and also here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade what link to use if i  had a new installtion of kubuntu withou anu updates
[08:57] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: I think gmail has an option, possibly for a fee.
[08:57] <Mena> any
[08:57] <eagles0513875> i dont have much stuff on there if i can get a client on here then ill back up everything on here thing is i need to reinstall kubuntu though cuz im duel booting
[08:58] <eagles0513875> if i can get my open gl problem solved ill dump windows for good
[08:58] <Mena> jhutchins, any idea :D
[08:58] <eagles0513875> speaking of gmail has anyone used the gmailfs before
[08:58] <eagles0513875> !gmailfs
[08:59] <ubotu> gmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.2-2 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 156 kB
[08:59] <BluesKaj> was using thunderbird for a long time but the links in the emails failed to launch FF one day , dunno why, ..was about the same time progs started freezing after i tried to change my scrn res .
[08:59] <meme-1> eagles0513875: I just learned about this recently. But I have my own FTP server which I believe is more useful.
[08:59] <eagles0513875> im trying to setup my gmail account throug tbird what would be the incoming server pop or imapi
[09:00] <eagles0513875> lol ur lucky for me that woudl be usseful cuz im on 56k
[09:00] <meme-1> As long as I pay my high-speed Internet bills. :-)
[09:00] <bibbob> pop.gmail.com
[09:00] <jhutchins> Mena: You're probably better of sticking with edgy for a while until you get used to it.
[09:00] <eagles0513875> ty bib
[09:00] <bibbob> does not support imap
[09:00] <eagles0513875> what doesnt gmail
[09:00] <Mena> jhutchins, no no no
[09:00] <eagles0513875> bib whatbout outgoin
[09:00] <Mena> jhutchins, i used it befor
[09:01] <Mena> jhutchins, but this is a clean installton
[09:01] <meme-1> bibbob: most email servers (outside of corporate accounts) don't support IMAP
[09:01] <eagles0513875> bib r u register and may i pm ya
[09:01] <eagles0513875> meme u know much bout linux
[09:01] <meme-1> eagles0513875: I am about a 3 week newbie. lol
[09:01] <bibbob> smtp.gmail.com
[09:01] <Mena> jhutchins, The probelm in the page they said if you dont have edgy installed use this ...and if you have edgy kde 3.5.6 use this
[09:01] <Mena> jhutchins, so i didnt update but i have edgy
[09:02] <BluesKaj> kmail is now my email client since Thunderbird stopped linking to browsers ...I like it
[09:02] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:02] <bibbob> eagles: gmail uses ssl: so smtp is port 465
[09:02] <eagles0513875> u work with alot of servers meme
[09:02] <meme-1> eagles0513875: but I do know a little something about any OS that isn't Linux.
[09:02] <Mena> jhutchins, So
[09:02] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:02] <bibbob> pop ist ssl 995
[09:02] <eagles0513875> is there a way i can keep the mail on the gmail server
[09:03] <meme-1> eagles0513875: A bunch... 15 years as a network admin.
[09:03] <eagles0513875> nice meme may i pm ya
[09:03] <bibbob> yes. tick it in the gmail settings and in the kmail settings
[09:03] <meme-1> eagles0513875: Novell (before Linux version) and Windows mostly.
[09:03] <eagles0513875> im using thunderbord
[09:03] <meme-1> eagles0513875: sure
[09:03] <eagles0513875> lol i despise windows
[09:03] <kaoticevil_> wow.. that was cool
[09:03] <bibbob> My KMenu is empty. Any idea?
[09:03] <metty_> jhutchins is there also an emailclient which includes an advanced spam filter like microsoft outlook does?
[09:03] <eagles0513875> bib should i use kmail instead
[09:04] <bill_k> what does the kubuntu edgy dvd have that the cd doesn't?
[09:04] <eagles0513875> metty there r pkgs for that
[09:04] <kaoticevil_> is there an Ops in here who can kill my other nick, please?
[09:04] <meme-1> eagles0513875: Well back in the NT 4 days, it was terrible... but 2000 and up it did get very reliable.
[09:04] <Mena> jhutchins, i need to get a public key
[09:04] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: That should be an option when you set up the server in Thunderbird - don't delete messages or something like that.
[09:04] <bibbob> eagles. whichever you like
[09:04] <LjL> kaoticevil: just do it yourself
[09:04] <kaoticevil_> LjL: how?
[09:04] <LjL> kaoticevil: /msg nickserv ghost kaoticevil yourpassword
[09:04] <LjL> in the status window
[09:04] <k3ks> it seems that kpilot copies the things from the palm to the PC but not from korganizer to palm, anyone a idea?
[09:04] <kaoticevil_> ah
[09:04] <eagles0513875> there isnt j
[09:05] <eagles0513875> wait a min
[09:05] <KaoticEvil> LjL: thanks :)
[09:05] <eagles0513875> meme is ur sn registered
[09:05] <eagles0513875> if its not then u should register so u can recieve pm's
[09:05] <eagles0513875> !register meme
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register meme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <eagles0513875> meme | !register
[09:05] <eagles0513875> !register | meme
[09:05] <ubotu> meme: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:06] <eagles0513875> then that way u r the only one with that name
[09:06] <metty_> jhutchins:  is there also an emailclient which includes an advanced spam filter like microsoft outlook does?
[09:06] <eagles0513875> its like a chat program
[09:06] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, why would thunderbird stop linking to browsers after changing scrn res
[09:06] <AbortD> shouldnt it just be /nickserv register password email
[09:06] <BluesKaj> ?
[09:06] <jhutchins> Mena: Why not just stick with Edgy for a bit?  The repositories are in the middle of an update right now; you're going to have lots of competition when they finish.  Meanwhile, go back and re-read the directions.
[09:06] <k3ks> it seems that kpilot copies the things from the palm to the PC but not from korganizer to palm, anyone a idea?
[09:06] <The_Machine> excuse me
[09:06] <beta> are you supposed to use aptitude instead of ept-get from edgy on?
[09:06] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Wrong person to ask.  To me, it's a wonder any of the Mozilla products work in the first place!
[09:07] <The_Machine> for some reason my /media/usbdisk is not writable
[09:07] <beta> apt-get
[09:07] <eagles0513875> i cant find where to change the setting for me to keep the mail on the server
[09:07] <AbortD> mozilla is great....
[09:07] <meme-1> eagles0513875: I thought I was already replying to you?
[09:07] <Mena> i know
[09:07] <The_Machine> could someone give me a hand about why i might not be able to write to it?
[09:07] <The_Machine> :)
[09:07] <meme-1> eagles0513875: I see your PM and I replied.
[09:07] <jhutchins> The_Machine: Probably mounted as root or r/o.
[09:07] <The_Machine> even with su permissions
[09:07] <The_Machine> sorry
[09:07] <eagles0513875> if ur not registered and logged in i cant get ur replies
[09:07] <bill_k> switching from ubuntu, anyone have tips before i install the kubuntu dvd?
[09:07] <arvid> I upgraded to feisty (pre-beta-alpha-whatever) and of course I have a problem :) when I boot from 2.6.20 (instead of the old 2.6.17) my mouse is totally dead :/ Where do you start debugging?
[09:07] <jhutchins> beta: apt-get still works fine.
[09:08] <bibbob> beta, you should always use aptitude b/c it has better dependency-control. But apt-get will work
[09:08] <AbortD> The_Machine: is it a portable usb media?
[09:08] <meme-1> !register
[09:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:08] <eagles0513875> !register
[09:08] <Iwonder|too|NotH> The_Machine: type mount
[09:08] <KaoticEvil> bill_k: why install all over again? you can install package kubuntu-desktop
[09:08] <The_Machine> yes, it is AbortD
[09:08] <KaoticEvil> bill_k: then you could use either K or gnome, at your preference
[09:08] <jhutchins> bill_k: Just use apt to install kubuntu-desktop.  No need for a full install.
[09:08] <AbortD> did you mount it and is it write protected on the device? via a switch
[09:08] <The_Machine> /dev/sde1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[09:08] <bill_k> KaoticEvil, because i've messed up some stuff.  I dont mind doing a clean install and would like a kubuntu disc anyways
[09:08] <The_Machine> no, it mounted automagically
[09:08] <Iwonder|too> The_Machine:  see that ro
[09:09] <The_Machine> ahh, yes
[09:09] <Iwonder|too> means read only
[09:09] <eagles0513875> j may i pm plz
[09:09] <The_Machine> how do i change that?  not sure why it mounted that way..
[09:09] <KaoticEvil> bill_k: ah, ok. good reasoning :)
[09:09] <Iwonder|too> hmmm
[09:09] <The_Machine> son of a..
[09:09] <KaoticEvil> The_Machine: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:09] <AbortD> is there a switch on the device The_Machine?
[09:09] <eagles0513875> bib u still here
[09:09] <The_Machine> yes.  dammit.
[09:09] <The_Machine> i'm a moron.
[09:09] <KaoticEvil> lol
[09:09] <AbortD> i told you :P
[09:09] <bill_k> The_Machine, is it ntfs?
[09:09] <AbortD> thats the first thing i said
[09:09] <beta> bibbob: ok, i got different opinions on this....but ill use aptitude from now on then
[09:09] <AbortD> i did the same thing haha
[09:09] <bill_k> lol
[09:09] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[09:09] <eagles0513875> bibbob u there dude can u pm me i need some help here
[09:09] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:10] <KaoticEvil> The_Machine: thats nothing, i tried for 3 hours to get sound on Edgy.. only to find out my speakers were plugged into the wrong port
[09:10] <The_Machine> oh, i CHECKED It too
[09:10] <beta> had problems with apt before and ubuntuguide.org seems tp prefer aptitude as well
[09:10] <AbortD> hahahahaha
[09:10] <The_Machine> but the graphic is small
[09:10] <The_Machine> and i just assumed..
[09:10] <jhutchins> The_Machine: ro is safe, so it defaults that way.
[09:10] <The_Machine> because i've never locked it
[09:10] <The_Machine> sigh.
[09:10] <The_Machine> thanks guys
[09:10] <bill_k> KaoticEvil, i've had many similar experiences
[09:10] <eagles0513875> if its ntfs he is going to need ntfs3g
[09:10] <eagles0513875> if he is duelbooting
[09:11] <AbortD> im glad i could help what tiny bit i did haha
[09:11] <AbortD> dualbooting
[09:11] <bill_k> dual boot
[09:11] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: It said it was vfat.
[09:11] <AbortD> but if you would like to duel im game ;)
[09:11] <eagles0513875> oh then i dunno
[09:11] <bill_k> eagles0513875, only if you want the experimental write support to transfer files between.
[09:12] <eagles0513875> i love ntefs3g
[09:12] <eagles0513875> what is the port for pop.gmail.com
[09:12] <KaoticEvil> 995
[09:12] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: What was the problem you were having?
[09:12] <bill_k> that's for the smtp.gmail.com
[09:12] <bill_k> ssl
[09:12] <KaoticEvil> eagles0513875: make sure you're using SSL
[09:12] <bill_k> the pop server is mail.gmail.com
[09:13] <eagles0513875> i am
[09:13] <eagles0513875> i wasnt sure hot to set it up
[09:13] <AbortD> has anyone used this 3d desktop?
[09:13] <eagles0513875> now for msn would it be pop as well
[09:13] <beta> does aptitude use the same /etc/apt/sources.list or a different one?
[09:14] <bill_k> settings>forwarding and pop.  there's a link to instructions right on the page
[09:14] <KaoticEvil> bill_k: pop.gmail.com:995 (using SSL) and smtp.gmail.com:465 (using SSL)
[09:14] <jhutchins> beta: same
[09:14] <beta> ok
[09:14] <bill_k> KaoticEvil, thanks
[09:14] <jhutchins> beta: You can actually manage it from the GUI if you prefer.
[09:14] <eagles0513875> ty kaotic
[09:14] <KaoticEvil> bill_k: no problem.. just had to check Outlook to make sure
[09:14] <Armagguedes> hello
[09:14] <jonathan_> why must I rmmod ehci_hcd to get usb thumb drives to mount in edgy/2.6.17?
[09:14] <KaoticEvil> n/p eagles0513875
[09:15] <Armagguedes> i was thinking of installing the beta, as i had to clear the hard drive. Are there any known problems from fresh beta installs?
[09:15] <beta> jhutchins: so aptitude is behind all the graphical adept installation tool stuff from edgy on?
[09:15] <bill_k> KaoticEvil, outlook?
[09:15] <eagles0513875> how do i set kmail to leave the mail on the server
[09:15] <ubuntu> hello world... :_
[09:15] <KaoticEvil> bill_k: yeah, Outlook 2007.. i use it on my windows box
[09:15] <jhutchins> Armagguedes: Dunno, check #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <Armagguedes> ok tks
[09:15] <bill_k> KaoticEvil, thunderbird?
[09:15] <ubuntu> help please
[09:15] <eagles0513875> no kmail bill
[09:15] <ubuntu> whats default root passwd?
[09:15] <jhutchins> beta: Far as I know, yes.  I tend to use apt-get.
[09:15] <KaoticEvil> bill_k: i don tuse my *nix box for email.. havent gotten around to setting it up yet
[09:15] <paul__> hi all, I hope this is not too dumb a question, but what is a splash screen and where do i use it
[09:15] <ubuntu> im newbie in linux...
[09:15] <eagles0513875> what the password u typed in for ur user name ubuntu
[09:16] <KaoticEvil> !sudo | ubuntu
[09:16] <ubotu> ubuntu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:16] <eagles0513875> that too
[09:16] <bill_k> ubuntu, NEVER log in as root
[09:16] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[09:16] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:16] <eagles0513875> how do i set kmail to leave the mail on the server
[09:16] <beta> jhutchins: on dapper it was still apt-get right? why do you still prefer apt-get?
[09:16] <ubuntu> why bil_k?
[09:16] <bill_k> jhutchins, thanks , that will help me transition from gnome
[09:16] <bill_k> ubuntu, not secure.
[09:16] <KaoticEvil> ubuntu: there's no real need to... sudo lets you do everything you need
[09:17] <ubuntu> thanks for advice...
[09:17] <bill_k> ubuntu, you'll fubar your computer real quick.
[09:17] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Check the "Leave fetched messages..." box.
[09:17] <eagles0513875> does kmail once i add an account and check for mail does it keep the mail on the server
[09:17] <eagles0513875> where
[09:17] <ubuntu> can i use this Ubuntu for internet connection server at my office ???
[09:17] <KaoticEvil> eagles0513875: let me look, wait one
[09:17] <eagles0513875> and this is in kmail kaotic
[09:17] <jhutchins> beta: It's just what I've learned.
[09:17] <bill_k> eagles0513875, depends.  a msn setting, gmail setting, or kmail setting can all change that
[09:18] <eagles0513875> nm i got it
[09:18] <yurimxpxman> how can I change the resolution of a tty to fit my 1440x900 monitor?
[09:18] <KaoticEvil> eagles0513875: under Account Settings, General Tab.. there's a check box
[09:18] <eagles0513875> lol lookin in wrong spot
[09:18] <jhutchins> beta: I prefer to do package management from the CLI instead of a GUI, the GUI's tend to be slower.
[09:18] <jhutchins> GUI's are nice for browsing.
[09:18] <eagles0513875> i got it lol looked in sending tab instead of recieving tab
[09:18] <eagles0513875> *bangs head on desk
[09:18] <KaoticEvil> lol
[09:19] <beta> jhutchins: yes though i actually cant do anything with the bash yet i always preferred to install stuff from here....adept just seems so bloated....so much stuff there...hehe drove me away instantly
[09:19] <AaronCampbell> If I'm putting Kubuntu on an new AMD64 system, should I use the amd64 version?  I know it sounds funny, but when I tried it quite some time ago, lots of people were having problems with the 64bit version, and NOT the 32.
[09:19] <ubuntu> can i ask you one more questions? bil_k?
[09:19] <eagles0513875> aaron avoid 64 bit for a while
[09:19] <eagles0513875> there still isnt good enough support for it
[09:19] <ubuntu> Can i use this OS as as Internet Connection Server???
[09:20] <jhutchins> AaronCampbell: If you're doing something that really needs the 64b capabilities, go with it, otherwise 32's a lot easier to work with as a desktop.
[09:20] <beta> jhutchins: so....does apt-cache sarches the aptitude cache or do i have to put in something different from now on?
[09:20] <eagles0513875> u should be able to do just bout anything as long as u down load the correct pkgs ubuntu
[09:20] <AaronCampbell> thanks.  I'll get the 32bit torrent of the new beta (no reason to put the older stuff on a new system...it'll come out of beta in less than a month right?)
[09:21] <jhutchins> beta: Yes, but I only know that because I've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[09:21] <beta> thx
[09:21] <mdtyke> Hey guys.  Just wondering if someone can help me with a few issues I've been having.  Basically, it's with my synaptics driver
[09:21] <ubuntu> what packages do i need eagles?
[09:21] <jhutchins> Edgy was my first debian/ubuntu install.
[09:21] <mdtyke> When I put the laptop in and out of hibernate/suspend, the driver doesn't seem to load back
[09:21] <beta> should do easy research like that on my own and i will
[09:21] <mdtyke> I usually have to End Session/Make a new one, for it to activate back in - and the touchpad is really unusable without it
[09:22] <jhutchins> beta: It's not that easy to find the good pages.  That's why I keep a cheat-sheet.
[09:22] <voicu> hi, i'm using edgy and since ktorrent was updated it uses way too much cpu
[09:22] <voicu> like 40% all the time but i only have 150kb of traffic
[09:22] <voicu> anyone else has this problem?
[09:22] <eagles0513875> anybody know how i can setup msn mail in kmail
[09:22] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Have a look at  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[09:23] <eagles0513875> i tried pop.hotmail.com since its essentially the smae thing
[09:23] <mdtyke> Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this?  It's really becoming quite bothersome
[09:23] <beta> jhutchins: true i update my personal one every day :D
[09:24] <jhutchins> voicu: Seems to me I heard something about that.  Check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[09:24] <voicu> k, thanks
[09:24] <mdtyke> And can someone give me an idea how to upgrade to Feisty
[09:24] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Ah, MSN is the one that charges for pop.
[09:24] <mdtyke> I did try, and it said to close Adept and wait for some thing to launch.. but it never does
[09:25] <Kebianizao> Hello
[09:25] <jhutchins> mdtyke: Did you report it?
[09:25] <eagles0513875> u serious
[09:25] <eagles0513875> well i have a dialup account with em
[09:25] <mdtyke> Report what
[09:25] <mdtyke> the touchpad or the feisty u/g
[09:25] <eagles0513875> so i would have to pay to get additional pop support
[09:25] <jhutchins> mdtyke: Both actually.
[09:25] <beta> uhm, theres still only sun jre5 in the official repos not jre6, is that true?
[09:25] <mdtyke> No
[09:26] <mdtyke> Im hoping they're just small issues.. hopefully the touchpad being fixed with an u/g to Feisty
[09:26] <jhutchins> mdtyke: I think the touchpad thing's a known kernel bug.
[09:26] <mdtyke> Does anyone know how I can upgrade to Feisty?  Or how to launch that updater manually
[09:27] <jhutchins> As far as the beta-test updater hanging, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php has the URL to report problems, and the response looks pretty good.
[09:27] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:27] <KaoticEvil> i may redo my main system with Edgy on it :)
[09:27] <mdtyke> well
[09:27] <mdtyke> I actually wasn't trying the Beta
[09:28] <jhutchins> mdtyke: Are you on the latest kernel?
[09:28] <mdtyke> when I was trying it earlier, the beta wasn't out.. only just noticed, but yay :)
[09:28] <mdtyke> Im a total Linux newbie, so you'll have to explain to me how to check that jhutchins
[09:28] <jhutchins> mdtyke: The updater is a beta-test thing.
[09:28] <mdtyke> I know I'm on KDE 3.5.6 though, if that's any help, and Kubuntu Edgy
[09:28] <Kebianizao> I have a DLink DWL-G122 wireless USB dongle which is supposed to use the ralink rt73 driver. Problem is that can't associate to the AP. Kubuntu edgy
[09:28] <KaoticEvil> are the KDE 3.5.6 packages finalized?
[09:30] <Kebianizao> out of the box I have wlan0 and wmaster0 devices, but someone told me that I need to have rausb0, or on the contrary I'll be on trouble as I am
[09:30] <Kebianizao> any idea?
[09:30] <jhutchins> mdtyke: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade should give you the latest everything.
[09:30] <mdtyke> It doesn't upgrade to Feisty though does it, as I do that reguarly
[09:31] <jhutchins> mdtyke:sudo apt-get install linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 would do just the kernel & modules
[09:31] <Iwonder|too> Kebianizao: i have a pcmia card that uses same chipset
[09:31] <Mena> Hey is it normal if i installed apps without verivfy
[09:31] <jhutchins> mdtyke: No, it'll stay with edgy unless you run the updater or change your repos to Feisty.
[09:31] <beta> uhm when i installed nvidia drivers the manual told me to  install nvidia-glx only ubuntuguide says install nvidia-kernel-common as well
[09:32] <beta> should i add that....and what does it do?
[09:32] <mdtyke> damy linux-image file is -generic, 2.6.17.11
[09:32] <Mena> verification*
[09:32] <Iwonder|too> it does same thing in ububtu,i did get it to work in gentoo with ndiswrapper
[09:32] <Kebianizao> aseigo: welcome to Spain :)
[09:32] <eagles0513875> how do i fix this
[09:32] <eagles0513875> It's not possible to send messages without specifying a sender address.
[09:32] <eagles0513875> Please set the email address of identity 'Default' in the Identities section of the configuration dialog and then try again.
[09:32] <jhutchins> mdtyke: Meaning you're pretty much current.
[09:33] <aseigo> Kebianizao: hola =)
[09:33] <Mena> jhutchins, is it okay :)
[09:33] <Kebianizao> Iwonder|too: what driver are you using ;)
[09:34] <Iwonder|too> the one off the windows instal,i think rt61.inf
[09:34] <Iwonder|too> it gives me ra0 as interface
[09:34] <constantine-xvi> is there any way to change the default FM in kde?
[09:34] <Iwonder|too> works great'
[09:34] <emonkey-p> I want to upgrade my edgy with the upgradetool but it doesn't start after the click on Finish and closing adept manager. any idea?
[09:35] <jhutchins> emonkey-p: That's why they call it beta testing.  Please report it.
[09:35] <eagles0513875> It's not possible to send messages without specifying a sender address.
[09:35] <eagles0513875> Please set the email address of identity 'Default' in the Identities section of the configuration dialog and then try again.
[09:35] <eagles0513875> what does that mean
[09:35] <Mena> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php mcheck this may help
[09:35] <Iwonder|too> emonkey-p: reopen adept hit fetch updates
[09:35] <Mena> check*
[09:35] <emonkey-p> Iwonder|too, I did that 3 times now
[09:35] <Iwonder|too> dunno] 
[09:36] <Kebianizao> Iwonder|too: any luck with the native one, this is intended for a newbie (it's not me tough)
[09:36] <Iwonder|too> thats how mine worked,
[09:36] <eagles0513875> j u still there dude y do i keep getting this message
[09:36] <eagles0513875> It's not possible to send messages without specifying a sender address.
[09:36] <eagles0513875> Please set the email address of identity 'Default' in the Identities section of the configuration dialog and then try again.
[09:36] <Kebianizao> I wonder which one does edy include by default?
[09:36] <Iwonder|too> yes Kebianizao i found one online,it worked but to set up the nic was very difficult unless connecting to a non secure network
[09:36] <bill_k> !wireless
[09:36] <emonkey-p> jhutchins, I know but there's maybe someone who knows a workaround here. I'll report it immediately. thanks anyway. :)
[09:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:37] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Go into setup, go to the default identity, fill in your email address.
[09:37] <bill_k> oOo it's the same as ubuntu
[09:37] <bill_k> duh
[09:37] <jhutchins> emonkey-p: Might find something in #ubuntu+1.
[09:37] <Kebianizao> Iwonder|too: could I have that link?
[09:37] <eagles0513875> OK no another problem how do i gain authetication
[09:38] <Iwonder|too> i don't have it,i'm on kubuntu laptop at the moment
[09:38] <Iwonder|too> google the chipset
[09:38] <jhutchins> emonkey-p: You'll also probably find that it's already been reported at least once and may find a solution on the bugreport page.
[09:38] <eagles0513875> how do i run kwallet
[09:38] <beta> do i still have to setup sun as the main java handling tool on edgy?
[09:38] <Kebianizao> Iwonder|too: when I said native I was talking about a Linux native
[09:38] <beta> cause there seem to be no guides for it for edgy
[09:38] <beta> just dapper and down
[09:38] <Iwonder|too> linux driver,yes
[09:38] <emonkey-p> jhutchins, k thanky
[09:38] <Iwonder|too> well rt61 module
[09:38] <emonkey-p> s/y/s/
[09:38] <Kebianizao> Iwonder|too: ok, sorry
[09:38] <Kebianizao> rt61?, what about rt73?
[09:39] <Iwonder|too> it works,but when switching networks,like if i go to work,i had to edit a conf file,unload the modeule and reload it
[09:39] <jhutchins> emonkey-p: If you find the answer, you can lurk here until the next one asks about it, then think how cool you'll look!
[09:39] <Iwonder|too> google it
[09:39] <Iwonder|too> ndiswrapper was way easier
[09:40] <Kebianizao> Iwonder|too: I see now, so you have to edit a .sta file each time, isn't it?
[09:40] <Iwonder|too> i did
[09:40] <Iwonder|too> it may have improved since i tried
[09:40] <Kebianizao> I wonder why wireless drivers can't stick to wireless extensions aas they should
[09:40] <emonkey-p> jhutchins, I'll try... Unfortunately english isn't my native language and I'm not a well speaker
[09:40] <Iwonder|too> no idea
[09:41] <Kebianizao> Iwonder|too: I doubt it since for rt2x00 it's quite problematic as well, anyway thanks for the info
[09:41] <Iwonder|too> yw
[09:41] <Iwonder|too> ndiswrapper is loaded i believe and easy to use
[09:41] <Kebianizao> one more question, do you know where I could find where that .sta file is on kubuntu?
[09:42] <Iwonder|too> no idea
[09:42] <Iwonder|too> i've benn using linux for about 7 years,but i'm new to ubuntu
[09:42] <Kebianizao> I'll try on native if I can find that find, if not I will have to do support in-site ;)
[09:43] <Iwonder|too> k gtg to work
[09:43] <Kebianizao> Iwonder|too: so do I, but for me it's difficult to explain a newbie about console commands, but when something got stuck it's the only way for me
[09:47] <mdtyke> Now whenever I run Adept update, it's not showing me about Feisty
[09:47] <mdtyke> Any ideas how I get that box back up?
[09:48] <RoyB72> anyone wanna help a newbie (2 days), with compiling beryl? get lots of error messages when I do ./configure
[09:49] <frojnd> hello, what is the name allready of win32codecs or smt
[09:49] <epimeth> is there a jigdo download for feisty beta?
[09:49] <frojnd> !win32codecs
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <frojnd> !codecs
[09:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <mdtyke> Anyone have any ideas?.. cant get the Kubuntu Update Manager to come up.. no idea how to get it either
[09:53] <bxnp> the kubuntu update manager
[09:53] <bxnp> what is the name of that manager
[09:53] <epimeth> bxnp: adept
[09:53] <epimeth> !jigdo
[09:54] <ubotu> jigdo: GTK+ download manager (beta version). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.3-1 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 440 kB
[09:54] <Mena-Smart_> !third-party
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about third-party - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <Mena-Smart_> !third-party repository
[09:54] <epimeth> Mena-Smart_: what are you looking for?
[09:54] <The_Machine> i like update manager
[09:54] <Mena-Smart_> epimeth, public key
[09:55] <epimeth> public key for what?
[09:55] <Mena-Smart_> epimeth, sec i will get it
[09:55] <Mena-Smart_> GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[09:55] <epimeth> Mena-Smart_: okay :-)
[09:55] <Mena-Smart_> i forget how to get the key
[09:56] <epimeth> Mena-Smart_: when are you getting this error?
[09:58] <babag> just added section on 'manual editing of the xorg.conf file' to wiki if anyone wants to check it.
[09:58] <babag> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto?highlight=%28serial%29%7C%28mouse%29
[09:58] <babag> had problem with serial mouse. this got mine working.
[09:58] <babag> it's the last section
[10:01] <KaoticEvil> anyone know of a program to convert SVGZ to JPEG?
[10:01] <epimeth> is there a jigdo download for feisty beta?
[10:01] <kristjan_> I'm stuck in _Modifying the source for your needs_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild  > I got the patch file, but how do I apply it?
[10:02] <Armagguedes> i was thinking of installing the Kubuntu Feisty beta, are there any known problems from fresh beta installs?
[10:02] <fdoving> epimeth: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/
[10:03] <Mena-Smart__> epimeth, sorry i wasnt here
[10:03] <Mena-Smart__> epimeth, i get this erro after updatting
[10:05] <Mena-Smart__> epimeth, are you still here :?
[10:06] <inteliwasp> how can i find the proper header pakedge to install for my current kernel while in terminal mode?
[10:06] <inteliwasp> i mean the proper spelling
[10:06] <Kebianizao> thanks all, bye...
[10:07] <srecko> hello
[10:07] <Mena-Smart__> Hi
[10:09] <cyber_cop> #kubuntu-tr
[10:09] <Mena> epimeth, ?
[10:11] <jhutchins> inteliwasp:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[10:12] <jhutchins> Armagguedes: Yes.
[10:12] <Armagguedes> yes what
[10:12] <jhutchins> inteliwasp: Oh, sorry, wrong bit.
[10:12] <Armagguedes> i can't find anything
[10:13] <jhutchins> inteliwasp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[10:13] <jhutchins> Armagguedes: Right in the topic on #ubuntu+1 it says "You shouldn't use Feisty on Production Systems yet".
[10:14] <Armagguedes> yes i does, and it said so for breezy too. yet i ran the betas back then without any particular problem
[10:14] <Armagguedes> just a couple of punctual ones
[10:15] <jhutchins> Armagguedes: You could set it up in chroot and test to see if it works for you.
[10:17] <Mr_Sonoma> has anyone had any trouble getting mjpegtools installed???
[10:17] <jhutchins> Armagguedes: You could watch in #ubuntu+1 and see what's being reported, you could check the forums and http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[10:18] <soulrider> !pupularity-contest
[10:18] <Mr_Sonoma> i tried apt-get and got a message back saying "pakage mjpegtools not availiable is only availiable from another source"
[10:18] <soulrider> !info popularity-contest
[10:18] <Arwen> huh? is ubotu in here?
[10:18] <ubotu> popularity-contest: Vote for your favourite packages automatically. In component main, is standard. Version 1.33ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 212 kB
[10:18] <soulrider> yes
[10:18] <frojnd> what's the name of codecs that play vmw files on the internet?
[10:18] <Armagguedes> ok tks
[10:18] <Armagguedes> jhutchins,
[10:19] <Arwen> frojnd, wmv you mean? libavcodec can do it in more recent builds, otherwise you want w32codecs
[10:19] <beta> when i update my packet list it always ignores "Translation-de" from all repos why is that?
[10:19] <soulrider> frojnd: w32codecs
[10:19] <frojnd> and what's name of package of embedded mplayer
[10:19] <soulrider> beta: maybe upgrading it will break other packages
[10:19] <jhutchins> Mr_Sonoma: Do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[10:19] <soulrider> frojnd: uhm, not sure
[10:20] <Mr_Sonoma> yes
[10:20] <jhutchins> !info mjpegtools
[10:20] <ubotu> mjpegtools: MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:1.8.0-0.2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 523 kB, installed size 1348 kB
[10:20] <jhutchins> Mr_Sonoma: Are you sure?
[10:20] <frojnd> soulrider, Arwen, maybe u know what's the name of repositry that include that kinda thing?
[10:20] <beta> hm, i lack some handbooks for kde applications
[10:20] <Mr_Sonoma> i just double checked in adept again
[10:20] <Arwen> frojnd, what kind of thing?
[10:20] <beta> thought it might be the reason
[10:21] <frojnd> Arwen: w32codecs
[10:21] <Arwen> gah, mjpegtools, wtf is mjpeg actually good for?
[10:21] <Arwen> frojnd, there's no good repository for that, you recycle the w32codecs.deb from debian, one sec
[10:21] <jhutchins> !mp3 | frojnd
[10:21] <ubotu> frojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:21] <Arwen> frojnd, http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[10:22] <eagles0513875> has anyone downloaded vmware server for linux and set it up before
[10:22] <Arwen> it would be in repositories, but it's a copyvio in many places
[10:22] <Arwen> eagles0513875, nope, I don't have that much RAM
[10:22] <eagles0513875> onlly thing in repositories is vmware player
[10:23] <Mr_Sonoma> it worked in a friends edgy machine. but i cant get it on my dapper has me puzzling
[10:23] <jhutchins> Arwen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[10:23] <Arwen> jhutchins, seen it
[10:23] <Arwen> cmon, don't link me to that
[10:23] <Arwen> I'm a regular
[10:23] <__-osh-__> eagles0513875: I've got it on my box. the tarfile. the installer wants to spread all over my system so I haven't allowed that yet. I'll see if I can hack it some... ;-)
[10:24] <rinanir> Hi, i want to access windows shares on another pc on the network. how can i do that? samba ?
[10:24] <jhutchins> Arwen: You can also just download it from http://mplayer.hq
[10:24] <Arwen> jhutchins, meh
[10:24] <eilker> eagles0513875> yes i did,  www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[10:25] <Arwen> jhutchins, actually, the wiki suggests fetching the debian copy
[10:25] <icheyne> anyone had any luck getting wireless rt2500 cards to work on the latest beta?
[10:25] <beta> edgy seems to give me more problems than dapper
[10:25] <Arwen> beta, it doesn't have LTS.....
[10:25] <mdtyke> Can someone please HELP me upgrade to Feisty
[10:25] <eilker> !lts
[10:25] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:25] <frojnd> Arwen: do I have to compyle this w32codec?
[10:25] <Arwen> frojnd, comply?
[10:25] <mdtyke> I can NOT get that Upgrade tool to appear, no matter what I do to Adept.. nor does dist-upgrade work
[10:25] <Arwen> or compile?
[10:25] <frojnd> compile, sorry
[10:25] <Arwen> frojnd, just install the deb (dpkg -i)
[10:26] <frojnd> Arwen: can u be a little bit more specific
[10:26] <Arwen> frojnd, um, you downloaded the w32codecs-<something>.deb right?
[10:26] <frojnd> Arwen: yes
[10:27] <rinanir> Hi, i want to access windows shares on another pc on the network. how can i do that? samba ?
[10:27] <Arwen> then open a terminal, cd to the folder that the deb is in, and do "dpkg -i <debfile>"
[10:27] <Arwen> frojnd, alternatively, just double clicking the deb might work
[10:27] <frojnd> Arwen: tnx
[10:27] <frojnd> Arwen: I prefer terminal
[10:27] <frojnd> rinanir: sudo apt-get install samba
[10:28] <rinanir> then
[10:28] <frojnd> rinanir: than go to K ->sytem settings -> share and share what u want
[10:28] <mdtyke> Can someone please HELP me upgrade to Feisty
[10:28] <mdtyke> I can NOT get that Upgrade tool to appear, no matter what I do to Adept.. nor does dist-upgrade work
[10:28] <frojnd> rinanir: if the windows still can't see your files: sudo smbpasswd -a nickname
[10:28] <rinanir> frojnd: i do not want to share, i want to see windows shares
[10:29] <frojnd> rinanir: try: sudo smbpasswd -a nickname
[10:29] <frojnd> rinanir: smb:// in konqueror I think
[10:29] <Arwen> rinanir, huh, I have that problem too, from what I know, you need to setup a DNS or a WINS server to do that using samba
[10:29] <jhutchins> mdtyke: #ubuntu+1
[10:29] <Arwen> say, this channel isn't run by the same people as #ubuntu is it?
[10:30] <jhutchins> mdtyke: Don't you understand what beta software means?
[10:30] <frojnd> rinanir: if another user uses XP than u should create another user: adduser nickname
[10:30] <frojnd> or is it addusr nickname
[10:30] <mdtyke> I'm not stupid jhutchins..
[10:30] <frojnd> than enter enter enter
[10:31] <frojnd> is this corrent -> yes
[10:31] <mdtyke> and #ubuntu+1 focuses on Ubuntu, not Kubuntu.. you know that as well as I do
[10:31] <frojnd> u must add the same password for this user as the XP user has
[10:31] <frojnd> rinanir: than sudo /etc/init.d/samba resrart
[10:31] <frojnd> rinanir: than sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:31] <frojnd> tha last one
[10:32] <jhutchins> mdtyke: #ubuntu+1 is Feisty, whether it's ubuntu, kubuntu, xubntu, edubuntu, whatever.
[10:32] <Arwen> anyone here use edubuntu as their main OS?
[10:33] <frojnd> rinanir: any luck
[10:33] <rinanir> frojnd: trying
[10:33] <funky_D> hello
[10:34] <frojnd> rinanir: don't forget to add new unix user the same password as he use for windows
[10:34] <funky_D> in windows you do dir joker.jpg /s and you get its location, how do you do it in kubuntu????
[10:34] <frojnd> locate name
[10:35] <jhutchins> funky_D: locate.
[10:35] <Arwen> funky_D, (s)locate file
[10:35] <funky_D> thanks ;)
[10:35] <Arwen> if it was newly created, you need to do updatedb
[10:35] <jhutchins> funky_D:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[10:35] <eagles0513875> how do i compile and install a binary tar.gz
[10:36] <jhutchins> !compile | eagles0513875
[10:36] <ubotu> eagles0513875: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:36] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[10:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:37] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Understand that if you do that, you break the dependency tracking, may mess up where files are installed, and may not be able to uninstall it.
[10:37] <funky_D> diference between locate and slocate?
[10:37] <funky_D> none?
[10:37] <jhutchins> funky_D: If you have slocate, locate will be aliased to it.  It obeys the system security rules and won't let you find files you aren't supposed to access.
[10:37] <eagles0513875> j i have the only vmware product there is is vmware player
[10:38] <eagles0513875> ive used it before u cant create virtual machines with it
[10:38] <jhutchins> funky_D: You may find that you need to use sudo.
[10:38] <jhutchins> !sudo | funky_D
[10:38] <ubotu> funky_D: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:38] <funky_D> jhutchins: many thanks :)
[10:39] <jbruckman> hello everyone. I have a question about quanta. I'm using it to develop a webpage, but the SSI(server side includes) aren't being previewed correctly(reall, at all). I get the feeling there's something I have to enable, but I don't know what it is. Any help?
[10:39] <eagles0513875> is there a server virtualization package j
[10:39] <jhutchins> jbruckman: Yeah, I think you actually need Apache for those.
[10:39] <funky_D> jhutchins: it's because i wanted to export my kde theme to my laptop... but i can't find the kde theme.... :S
[10:39] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Sorry, I don't do VMWare.
[10:39] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: I understand that there are alternatives like xen.
[10:40] <jbruckman> jhutchins: i have an apache server, but uploading it to the server and then using the browser to look at it is a pain..
[10:40] <jbruckman> jhutchins: i was hoping for a quick preview option...
[10:41] <jhutchins> jbruckman: http://lists.kde.org/?i=44F5D253.1020009%20()%20WebsterRidge%20!%20com
[10:41] <jhutchins> jbruckman: Install apache locally.
[10:41] <jbruckman> jhutchins: thanks
[10:41] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:41] <laptop> Does a list of alterations to 7.04 exist?
[10:42] <eagles0513875> how does xen work
[10:42] <laptop> things they worked on?
[10:42] <gbCerberus> hi I'm trying to burn the fiesty iso (already did a checksum); I right click on the file and select "Write to disk...", all the options are ok and I hit Write, then it tells me to insert a rewritable or blank disk even though I already have one in the drive
[10:42] <gbCerberus> feisty*
[10:42] <jhutchins> laptop: Yeah, um...
[10:43] <jhutchins> laptop: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta/Kubuntu
[10:43] <jhutchins> gbCerberus: What are you running now?
[10:44] <mdtyke> Can anyone tell me how I can delete the list of packages.. as if to download them again from scratch?
[10:44] <gbCerberus> I'm on ubuntu edgy, I guess I'm in the wrong channel...
[10:45] <Mena> yes for ubuntu
[10:45] <Mena> #ubuntu
[10:45] <jhutchins> gbCerberus: Yeah, I'm guessing that's gcombust or something, kubuntu uses k3b.
[10:45] <Mena> !ubuntu
[10:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:45] <Bongo5HH> #ubuntu is the right channel for you
[10:45] <gbCerberus> ok, well, I have kubuntu as well and k3b doesn't load
[10:46] <jhutchins> gbCerberus: Have you run k3bsetup?
[10:46] <gbCerberus> nope, I'll try that
[10:46] <dominik> hello world
[10:46] <jhutchins> gbCerberus: Ok, be warned it doesn't always work, but it should.
[10:46] <Bongo5HH> hello dominik
[10:47] <gbCerberus> getting an X error, guess I better relog in KDE, brb ;)
[10:47] <dominik> Hello Bongo5HH, just popped in to see what guys are up to
[10:47] <Bongo5HH> is there some special trick to upgrading from Herd 5 to the Beta of Feisty?
[10:47] <LjL> Bongo5HH: just update and upgrade as usual
[10:48] <Bongo5HH> Synaptic and Adept both say I'
[10:48] <jhutchins> Bongo5HH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PoweredBy
[10:48] <Bongo5HH> I'm completely upgraded
[10:48] <LjL> then you're on the beta
[10:48] <Bongo5HH> but I didn't upgrade... it just found no new packages today.
[10:48] <jhutchins> Bongo5HH: SOrry, wrong clip.  It's in the topic, test the updater
[10:48] <Bongo5HH> Well ok I got three new kernals
[10:49] <Bongo5HH> jhutchins: thanks, but I'm running Herd 5, that's for edgy
[10:49] <mdtyke> The updater doesn't work here.. when I put in the updated repos, do an update - I don't get the update tool appearing
[10:49] <Bongo5HH> is there a version number I can find that will confirm?
[10:50] <eagles0513875> do i have to compile xen from source
[10:50] <Arwen> eagles0513875, doesn't look like it
[10:51] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:51] <jhutchins> Bongo5HH: They might know in the fiesty support channel at #ubuntu+1.
[10:51] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:51] <Bongo5HH> thanks jhutchins
[10:54] <mdtyke> How do I check what version of KDE I'm running, and how do I upgrade it to the latest if it's not
[10:55] <laptop> ANYONE have trouble with LINE-IN audio??????
[10:56] <wolferine> what is a tool for formatting a drive/partition?
[10:56] <eagles0513875> qtparted
[10:56] <eagles0513875> but for that u have to go into konsole and type sudo qtparted
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, now that was weird
[10:58] <Bongo5HH> ok answer was the updates we've been getting all along take us up to the Beta that was just "released" we're already there.. that's why there are no updates... I feel silly now. :)
[10:59] <wolferine> will formatting an entire partition, mess with my system? (fstab, etc..)
[10:59] <wolferine> i would rather prepare for this ahead of time, rather than after I format it
[10:59] <eagles0513875> yes i think
[11:00] <eagles0513875> dude back up all ur data and reinstall from scratch
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> "reinstall from scratch" is a windows solution
[11:00] <wolferine> who are you talking to?
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> not a linux solution
[11:00] <beta> are there any known problems with ktorrent being unable to connect at all?
[11:00] <wolferine> format == reinstall
[11:01] <wolferine> lol
[11:01] <eagles0513875> back updata reformat and then reinstall
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: is this a partition used for storage, or is it / or /home or the like?
[11:01] <wolferine> since when does a format mean an install?
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> eagles0513875: there are better ways
[11:01] <eagles0513875> what r u trying to do wolf
[11:01] <wolferine> i really need someone who knows what they are talking about
[11:01] <eagles0513875> ok daisuke ido take ovr dude
[11:02] <beta> it doenst work for me anymore on edgy...worked perfectly on dapper
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: is this a non-essential partition?
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> just used for storage or whatever
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> not mounted as / or /home or something rather important like that
[11:02] <Freeza^> kate doesnt work on my kubuntu install, i get an xserver crash but gedit runs just fine
[11:02] <wolferine> i want to format an NTFS drive, so its ext3
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> DO make sure you have anything you want off of it, of course
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> then you can just 'sudo qtparted'
[11:03] <wolferine> well, doesnt a format erase the entire drive...
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> no\
[11:03] <wolferine> ha
[11:04] <Daisuke_Ido> it will erase a partition
[11:04] <wolferine> ok, ill ask somewhere else
[11:04] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[11:04] <ElCommander> Hi there
[11:04] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[11:04] <Daisuke_Ido> hey ForgeAus
[11:05] <ForgeAus> sup?
[11:06] <Daisuke_Ido> just trying to explain that formatting doesn't erase an entire drive unless you tell it to (someone's wanting to format an ntfs partition os ext3
[11:06] <Daisuke_Ido> something that should be relatively simple
[11:06] <ForgeAus> format or convert?
[11:06] <ForgeAus> or partition?
[11:06] <Daisuke_Ido> he says format
[11:07] <ForgeAus> well format will erase the entire "drive" - at least if you consider the drive to be like windows drive letters...
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: you *can* come back here you know, contrary to your belief we aren't idiots
[11:07] <wolferine> ForgeAus, you know what your doing?
[11:07] <ForgeAus> but the entire DISK is another story
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> not drive, partition
[11:08] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: i tried to help you, you got snippy
[11:08] <ForgeAus> wolverine, um that depends on the issue at hand
[11:08] <wolferine> i want to take an NTFS drive and convert it to ext3
[11:08] <wolferine> so I can use it as a backup
[11:09] <Daisuke_Ido> before you said format, now you want to convert...
[11:09] <ForgeAus> I think you just use fsconvert ?
[11:09] <wolferine> will this effect fstab, etc...
[11:09] <ForgeAus> oops convertfs
[11:09] <ForgeAus> yes
[11:09] <marcreichelt> hi!
[11:09] <ForgeAus> fstab meends changing
[11:09] <eilker> !alsa
[11:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:09] <wolferine> ok, just fstab?
[11:09] <marcreichelt> is it possible to make a slideshow with Gwenview for all _subdirectories_ and files?
[11:09] <ForgeAus> (if its set to fuse for example or NTFS to read the NTFS partition it needs to be altered to ext3)
[11:10] <ForgeAus> just the type flag mostly
[11:10] <ForgeAus> I'm not entirely certain of other issues
[11:10] <wolferine> i want to convert it to ext3 so I can use it anytime I want
[11:10] <ForgeAus> wolferine that depends on where else its used
[11:10] <wolferine> rather than NTFS, which isnt fun in linux
[11:10] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: if you dual boot, i recommend vfat
[11:11] <pyrotix> I ctr-alt-esc'd my desktop which turned black, what do I need to relaunch?
[11:11] <ForgeAus> wolferine, um you mean you have access/permission problems with it?
[11:11] <Daisuke_Ido> and ntfs-3g is incredibly stable these days
[11:11] <wolferine> ForgeAus, im not looking to resolve that, its a bit offf topic
[11:11] <ForgeAus> if you want to mount it that way change default in fstab to user
[11:11] <Daisuke_Ido> pyrotix: ctrl-alt-f7?
[11:12] <wolferine> i want to make it into ext3, so I can use it, and I am just unsure if fstab is the only thing affected (changing - in fstab- from ntfs into ext3
[11:12] <ForgeAus> you can USE it as ntfs
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that's the only thing that it should affect.
[11:12] <ElCommander> What else should be affected?
[11:12] <wolferine> i dont want it to be ntfs
[11:12] <ForgeAus> ok then use convertfs
[11:12] <wolferine> as I have explained, I want it to be ext3
[11:12] <ElCommander> In fstab you define, which filesystem it is so that it can be mounted correctly
[11:13] <wolferine> what is convertfs?
[11:13] <ElCommander> Thats the only file which needs to be changed after conversion
[11:13] <Daisuke_Ido> use convertfs, then change the entry from ntfs  to ext3
[11:13] <Daisuke_Ido> !convertfs
[11:13] <ubotu> convertfs: in-place filesystem conversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 20050113-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 116 kB
[11:13] <wolferine> ForgeAus, can I just pm you pls?
[11:13] <ForgeAus> the commandline is: convertfs /dev/<devicename, ie hd0 or sd1, etc> <fstype> <fstype>
[11:14] <arvid> for some reason my fglrx.ko disapeard after a reboot :/ how do I get it back?
[11:14] <ForgeAus> so an example would be: convertfs /dev/sd1 ntfs vfat
[11:14] <ForgeAus> the man page uses this example : convertfs /dev/hda2 ext2 reiserfs
[11:14] <ForgeAus> and yes you can pm me
[11:15] <wolferine> thank you
[11:15] <ForgeAus> I havn't tried doing it
[11:15] <jhutchins> ForgeAus: I would expect it to be very slow.
[11:15] <Daisuke_Ido> wish me luck, gentlemen and ladies
[11:15] <Daisuke_Ido> assuming there are ladies present...  out of 370 people, there's bound to be at least one
[11:15] <jhutchins> It might be quicker to just copy anything you want to save and re-format it.
[11:15] <ForgeAus> jhutchins I don't expect it to be fast...
[11:16] <Daisuke_Ido> jhutchins: that was my original suggestion before getting blackballed
[11:16] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[11:18] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Well, as asked for, good luck.
[11:19] <jhutchins> I think I'll go feed the horses.
[11:21] <frojnd> hello I have this problem with sharing mo3'2
[11:21] <frojnd> mp3's
[11:22] <frojnd> XP usre can't copy from me and I can't copy from him
[11:22] <frojnd> allways is error
[11:22] <frojnd> and I can't copy just mp3, other files I can... also he
[11:23] <metty_> hi, can anyone pls help me? i think i'm just too stupid -.- just want to execute a .run file and if i klick on it, it opens with kate...
[11:23] <Arwen> frojnd, um, speak more plainly and in less lines
[11:23] <Arwen> metty_, chmod +x
[11:23] <frojnd> Could not read smb://Bad Religion.mp3 ....
[11:23] <frojnd> why is that
[11:24] <Arwen> frojnd, dunno, do other files work?
[11:24] <frojnd> Arwen: yes... if .avi .rar .jpg etc
[11:24] <metty_> Arwen: the file's on a cd.. how can i use the chmod in this case pls?
[11:24] <frojnd> just mp3
[11:24] <Arwen> metty_, you can't
[11:24] <Daisuke_Ido> connection's nuts today
[11:24] <Arwen> frojnd, could it be the space in the filename?
[11:25] <metty_> Arwen: well, that sounds nice :D is there a possibility to execute this file?
[11:25] <Arwen> metty_, try mounting the CD with some kind of umask= parameter
[11:25] <Arwen> e.g. umask=0000
[11:25] <Daisuke_Ido> here's a question, why won't the feisty updater work with kde 3.5.6 installed?
[11:25] <metty_> Arwen: k thx a lot
[11:25] <intelikey> howto determine the device that the MBR is on ?
[11:25] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, third party repositories maybe? it's beta software...
[11:26] <Arwen> intelikey, all your devices should have MBRs, what are you talking about?
[11:26] <Daisuke_Ido> nope, official repository
[11:26] <intelikey> Arwen yes but how to determine which the bios reads ?
[11:26] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, um, afaik 3.5.6 is only available from the kde.org repository?
[11:26] <Arwen> intelikey, first hard drive
[11:26] <Arwen> almost always
[11:26] <intelikey> Arwen and all can not all should
[11:27] <royski> HI, looking for help, new to ubuntu/kubuntu.. Successfully load ubuntu from live CD, after a few days, downloaded iso image of kubuntu and loaded it successfully, but was hoping to be able to login during "startup cold" and select which version (Gnome or KDE) to run and be able to swap from one ot the other until I finally which one to stay with, need advice on what todo.
[11:27] <intelikey> Arwen ok so how to find the first hd   will it always list first in fdisk -l  or something ?
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main
[11:27] <Arwen> intelikey, err, you don't know which or your hard drives is first?
[11:27] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, yeah, like I said, third-party
[11:27] <Arwen> first-party would be ubuntu.com
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i see
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> well then
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> on with the upgrade!
[11:28] <intelikey> anyone know how to find the MBR ?     cli means please ?
[11:28] <Arwen> intelikey, how to find the MBR?
[11:28] <intelikey> Arwen it's ok, there are always things we don't understand.
[11:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i just got a headache.
[11:29] <Arwen> intelikey, you want to know which of your MBRs your BIOS is reading right?
[11:29] <intelikey> yes
[11:29] <frojnd> Arwen: now that I unspace tha name of file it says that file is in use.. how lame can that be
[11:29] <Daisuke_Ido> hda0, most likely
[11:29] <intelikey> on any box at any time.  arwen
[11:29] <Arwen> intelikey, that would be your first hard drive, /dev/sda probably, /dev/hda if you don't have sata or your system is weird
[11:29] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[11:29] <pyrotix> I ctr-alt-esc'd my desktop which turned black (my wallpapers are gone), what do I need to relaunch?
[11:29] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, there's on 0, when you're talking about the MBR, you don't use a partition number
[11:30] <ForgeAus> kde 3.5.6 might be in edgy proposed or even just edgy
[11:30] <Arwen> no 0*
[11:30] <Daisuke_Ido> right
[11:30] <Arwen> pyrotix, kdesktop I think
[11:30] <intelikey> anyone know a command to check for MBR ?
[11:30] <Arwen> intelikey, what do you mean by "check for mbr"?
[11:30] <Arwen> that makes no sense, it's not an intelligible statement
[11:31] <intelikey> anyone ?
[11:31] <Lynoure> intelikey: it's the first part of the disk, it is always there. What's in it is a another matter.
[11:31] <Arwen> intelikey, ^^
[11:31] <mauro> alguien habla espaol??
[11:31] <intelikey> Lynoure know a command to test for the systems MBR ?
[11:31] <Lynoure> intelikey: you can write it to a file with this:  dd if=/dev/xxx of=mbr.backup bs=512 count=1
[11:32] <intelikey> ok i'll ask some place else thank for trying guys.
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ...?
[11:32] <Lynoure> oh well...
[11:32] <ForgeAus> hehe wierd
[11:33] <Lynoure> Another case reminding me why I was planning not to do support anymore.
[11:33] <Arwen> intelikey failed at life.....
[11:33] <Arwen> it's worse in #ubuntu :-\
[11:34] <ElCommander> :D
[11:34] <ForgeAus> lol Lynore :)
[11:34] <Lynoure> Arwen: well, I left #ubuntu the day I decided to take a vacation from support :)
[11:34] <ForgeAus> I wonder if he meant to check if the bootstraps for grub and/or lilo were in the mbr
[11:34] <Arwen> Lynoure, I left when I was banned....
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> who knows...
[11:35] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, so, is anything actually using that file?
[11:35] <Arwen> maybe the host computer has some kind of drm rootkit on it?
[11:35] <ForgeAus> Lynoure you know that mbr.backup file, how can I get one :)
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> so is any what huh?
[11:36] <antonio_> ciao a tutti
[11:36] <Arwen> ForgeAus, dd if=<hard drive device> of=mbr.backup -bs=512 -count=1 I think
[11:36] <Arwen> careful though, I'm not sure
[11:37] <weedar> is there a way to make a command make a noise ("ping") when it finishes? I compile a few things and hate checking back to se if it's done
[11:37] <weedar> maybe piping it to a command that creates a noise?
[11:37] <Lynoure> ForgeAus: with that command I gave you. it's an of not if.
[11:37] <Arwen> weedar, attach "&& <command playing noise>"
[11:38] <Arwen> that'll play the sound if it succeeds
[11:38] <Lynoure> ForgeAus: s/you/intelikey
[11:38] <weedar> Arwen: nice. Do you know of a command that does such a thing? :)
[11:39] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: what were you saying about something using a file?
[11:39] <Arwen> weedar, um, mpg321 or mpg123 plays MPEG-1 Layer 3 (mp3)
[11:39] <ForgeAus> hehe its ok
[11:39] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, never mind :-\
[11:39] <Arwen> too late now
[11:39] <Arwen> weedar, ogg123 plays Ogg Vorbis/FLAC
[11:39] <Arwen> or, you could just use mplayer
[11:39] <ForgeAus> hmmm I need to learn more about bootloaders
[11:39] <weedar> Arwen: then I'll have to create a short noise myself, unless I feel like hearing an entire song :)
[11:39] <Arwen> :-\
[11:40] <Arwen> weedar, try the infamous "Hey everybody, I'm looking at GAY PORNO" mp3?
[11:40] <ForgeAus> can NTFS (and or GRUB) boot (without passing through to another bootloader) both XP and Kubuntu?
[11:40] <Arwen> ForgeAus, ntldr you mean? and no
[11:40] <Arwen> the startup process for Windows and Linux are different
[11:41] <ForgeAus> ie how do you put a Linux boot string (ie root=/dev/<rootdevice> etc)...  in ntldr and/or put something in Grub to start up XP bypassing ntldr?
[11:41] <ForgeAus> Arwen yes I  know they're different
[11:41] <Daisuke_Ido> doesn't grub chain to ntldr?
[11:41] <ForgeAus> yes
[11:41] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't dual boot
[11:41] <ForgeAus> I dual boot and yes it chains to ntldr to do that
[11:41] <weedar> Arwen: for some odd reason I never saved that somewhere sane ;)
[11:41] <Arwen> ForgeAus, you can't have ntldr or grub boot both, you have to have one boot the other bootloader
[11:42] <Arwen> weedar, lol
[11:42] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't think you can, i think xp absolutely requires its own bootloader
[11:42] <ForgeAus> Arwen explicitly *can't* or you don't know how to?
[11:42] <Arwen> I used to have a copy, but in the latest Last Measure (4.1?) it's a swf
[11:42] <Arwen> ForgeAus, can't
[11:42] <ForgeAus> Arwen ok...
[11:42] <Arwen> ntldr boots grub, grub boots ntldr, end of story
[11:42] <bet4> which are popular bittorrent clients for linus...beside azureus and ktorrent? i used torrent on windows so id prefer something similiar lightweight
[11:42] <bet4> linux
[11:42] <ForgeAus> um ntldr boots grub? uh? how?
[11:42] <Arwen> bet4, um, bittornado maybe
[11:43] <Arwen> bet4, but azureus and ktorrent are about as good as you'll get
[11:43] <ForgeAus> Grub passes through (chains) to ntldr I know that much
[11:43] <ForgeAus> ntldr is fairly generic
[11:43] <Arwen> ForgeAus, ntldr can boot a file, which can be a copy of the grub MBR
[11:43] <Arwen> :-)
[11:43] <ForgeAus> its not just for XP, 2k (possibly even NT systems) used it
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> bet4: the latest version of ktorrent is quite nice, added support for rss feeds
[11:43] <Arwen> yeah, ktorrent is good (I use azureus, ick @ 100MB mem)
[11:43] <ForgeAus> Arwen, whats the filename?
[11:43] <bet4> Daisuke_Ido: yes i liked ktorrent but unfortunately it doenst work anymore for me on edgy
[11:43] <MinceR> rtorrent, Mainline (the official client) and BitComet seem to be popular
[11:44] <MinceR> my favorite is rtorrent
[11:44] <ForgeAus> and how do you refer to it?
[11:44] <Daisuke_Ido> bitcomet is bad
[11:44] <Arwen> ForgeAus, for what? the mbr clone? you make it yourself and name it however you want
[11:44] <MinceR> s/seem/also seem/
[11:44] <MinceR> i've heard BitComet is bad but nevertheless it seems to be popular :)
[11:44] <Arwen> ForgeAus, to boot grub with ntldr, you add a section under "operating systems" in C:\boot.ini containing the path to a copy of grub
[11:44] <ForgeAus> by mbr clone you mean like what the old dos sys command used to do?
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> for torrents on public trackers, it's fine, but it cheats (fudges numbers) so it's banned on most private trackers
[11:45] <Arwen> ForgeAus, don't think so, an mbr clone is a physical copy of the first 512 bytes of your hard drive
[11:45] <MinceR> private trackers suck anyway
[11:45] <ForgeAus> ok
[11:45] <Arwen> meh, they're ok
[11:45] <MinceR> they're run by people who don't understand how bittorrent works.
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> not really
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> they understand full well how it works
[11:45] <Arwen> MinceR, otherwise you get leeching big time :-\
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> exactly
[11:45] <MinceR> why do they limit the number of peers available then?
[11:46] <MinceR> interesting, i don't leech even though i'm not forced not to do so
[11:46] <Daisuke_Ido> it's generally a narrower scope anyway
[11:46] <MinceR> and it seems that most users don't leech
[11:46] <Daisuke_Ido> on public trackers, a lot leech and a few good samaritans seed
[11:46] <SheeEttin> Is this the right place to ask for fglrx/xorg/DRI problems, or not?
[11:47] <Daisuke_Ido> i seed to 1.5 minimum
[11:47] <Arwen> I just seed to 1.0 - upload caps
[11:47] <MinceR> i tend to seed to 1.1 but if the stuff is really good i seed for more :)
[11:47] <MinceR> (or if it was drying up at some point)
[11:48] <bet4> is there any torrentclient than can search mutiple torrent sites at once?
[11:48] <bet4> that would be handy
[11:48] <Arwen> bet4, ktorrent
[11:48] <Daisuke_Ido> for isntance, a private tracker i belong to is jpopsuki.  it's a pretty narrow scope, but most people who are into the material know about it and use it, so it's not really a limit, just sign up
[11:48] <Arwen> but, why bother?
[11:48] <bet4> Arwen: doenst work anymore unfortuantely...but how do you make it search in mutiples at once btw?
[11:49] <MinceR> most of them are invite only; and it's just too much hassle anyway
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[11:49] <MinceR> just like websites you need to register on to view the content
[11:49] <metty_> hmm why can't i save a file from the internet to my space? i don't have the permission to ot?
[11:49] <metty_> it
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> those aren't the ones i'm talking about
[11:49] <Arwen> bet4, dunno, I use azureus which by design has no search
[11:49] <SheeEttin> So, uh, I should ask somewhere else?
[11:49] <MinceR> rtorrent doesn't have search either
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> oink and such?  THOSE are run by people that want their little elite group to stay that way
[11:50] <mauro> alguien que hable espaol
[11:50] <Daisuke_Ido> but a "private" tracker that just requires a signup, not a problem
[11:50] <SheeEttin> K, I'm off then.
[11:51] <arman> hii
[11:51] <arman> any one there?
[11:52] <alphi_> hello
[11:52] <arman> how are you?
[11:52] <Arwen> arman, no
[11:52] <arman> what?
[11:52] <FOAD> Hi.
[11:52] <metty_> hu
[11:53] <arman> lol ok
[11:53] <arman> everybody uses kubuntu here?
[11:53] <Arwen> arman, Ubuntu, they just banned me from the channel
[11:53] <Arwen> I have basic knowledge of KDE, so it's all good :-)
[11:53] <arman> oh i see
[11:54] <arman> so your a good KDE user?
[11:54] <metty_> would someone be so kind to help me pls? why can't i save a file from the internet to my space? i don't have the permission to ot?
[11:54] <Arwen> na, GNOME for the win
[11:54] <arman> i just installed kubuntu
[11:54] <Arwen> metty_, more details?
[11:54] <Arwen> arman, I got nothing against KDE, but I find the default Kubuntu look eye-damaging
[11:54] <Daisuke_Ido> arman: welcome to the cult, kool-aid is on the table over there
[11:54] <Daisuke_Ido> seriously though, welcome to kubuntu
[11:55] <arman> thank u :D
[11:55] <arman> im gladd im here the people here are better then windows xp users lol
[11:56] <Arwen> nah, ##windows is a great place
[11:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i shouldn't say this, but the people i've met here are about 10 times friendlier than users of nearly any other linux distribution
[11:56] <Daisuke_Ido> here it's "what kind of help do you need?", there it's "RTFM and STFU!"
[11:56] <arman> :)
[11:56] <arman> lol thats true
[11:56] <metty_> Arwen: i just want to download a driver from a website but when i select my folder,  there is a failure whichs says that i don't have the permission to
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> metty_: what directory are you trying to save to?
[11:57] <fluffles> hi, does kubuntu has some pkg manager or smt? i've got a user who wants to install firefox, should he just do a manual install or are there smarter ways?
[11:58] <metty_> Arwen:  lol it works now .... don't know why... just tried it 10 times.. i wanted to install it to my personal folder
[11:58] <Daisuke_Ido> fluffles: use adept to install packages
[11:58] <Daisuke_Ido> !adept > fluffles
[11:58] <metty_> Arwen: but thanx again :)
[11:58] <fluffles> thanks
[11:58] <Arwen> lol
[11:59] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[11:59] <wolferine> well, that wasnt so nice
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> 3 hours to go :\
[12:00] <arman> for what?
[12:00] <wolferine> system froze, then i had to reboot
[12:00] <bet4> stupid question, how do i find a specific application launcher i just installed?
[12:00] <compilerwriter> fluffles there are much smarter ways
[12:00] <Arwen> bet4, a launcher?
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> for all of the files for the 6.10 > 7.04 upgrade to finish downloading
[12:00] <compilerwriter> fluffles: One can get firefox from the repos.
[12:00] <bet4> Arwen: i mean the executable file that starts the program
[12:00] <wolferine> is it a beta rls now?
[12:01] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Just be happy it's not like WoW
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> fluffles: yes, you can also 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[12:01] <Minataku> Where there's 100MB of files to download for updates every 12 hours
[12:01] <Arwen> bet4, like /usr/bin/firefox or something?
[12:01] <compilerwriter> fluffles there is synatic, apt-get, and adept is a front end for apt-get.
[12:01] <Arwen> or like a .desktop file that's in your K Menu?
[12:01] <fluffles> well i asked it for "arman" he uses kubuntu. but adept looks ok.. and i think packages are more easy than source based managers
[12:02] <fluffles> at least for end users like him
[12:02] <compilerwriter> fluffles s/synatic/synaptic
[12:02] <arman> lol i dont know anything about anything i feel dumb
[12:02] <arman> im kind of new :P
[12:02] <arman> actually i am new
[12:02] <compilerwriter> Arman we were all newbies once.
[12:02] <Daisuke_Ido> no harm in being new
[12:02] <bet4> Arwen: uhm, i dunno i just installed bittornado and i doenst start with bittornado (-bin) and its not in the menu so i wondr how to start it
[12:02] <compilerwriter> Arman we do not bite.
[12:02] <arman> lol i thought there would be cursing wen i first came in
[12:03] <Daisuke_Ido> you're already showing a willingness to learn something new, otherwise you wouldn't have left windows :)
[12:03] <Arwen> bet4, try locate bittornado
[12:03] <arman> u guys seem way to nice :)
[12:03] <bet4> whereis only gave me the icon /usr/share/app-install/icons/_usr_share_pixmaps_bittornado.xpm
[12:03] <compilerwriter> bet4 start it from the console
[12:03] <metty_> Arwen:  as i said befor i now have the driver (.run) in my private folder. how can i execute it now pls? with a click in it, i just get opened with kate..
[12:03] <wolferine> bet4 use which bittornado
[12:03] <bet4> no, locate gave me that not whereis
[12:03] <Arwen> if not, go to adept, find bittornado, and find the list of installed files
[12:03] <Daisuke_Ido> metty_: is this nvidia's driver by chance?
[12:03] <Arwen> metty_, chmod +x it, then run it with sh
[12:03] <bet4> wolferine: what do you mean?
[12:04] <compilerwriter> Daisuke is correct arman.  You are willing to try.  Therefore you are showing more courage than a lot of people I know.
[12:04] <arman> thank u :)
[12:04] <compilerwriter> Arman:  On the other hand you are also showing more courage than I would want my mother to.  Fortunately you are a bit more computer savvy than my mother.
[12:05] <Daisuke_Ido> whee!  file 217 of 1074 :(
[12:05] <Daisuke_Ido> hehe
[12:05] <metty_> Arwen:  thank you, it works ;) what does sh stand for please?
[12:05] <compilerwriter> Holy Christ Daisuke_Ido what in the name of Buddha are you downloading
[12:05] <Arwen> metty_, *sh*ell
[12:05] <Daisuke_Ido> compilerwriter: it's the feisty upgrade tool
[12:05] <Arwen> it's the thingy on the command line that reads commands
[12:06] <arman> :)
[12:06] <compilerwriter> metty_ it stands for shell.
[12:06] <arvid> I tried: "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)" and "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" but I still don't have a fglrx.ko on my system :/ What do I do?
[12:07] <compilerwriter> It is a program to use to interact with the kernal.  You tell shell what you want the computer to do and then it tells the kernal what you want done.
[12:07] <compilerwriter> metty_  I think I should have been spelling that kernel.
[12:07] <bet4> Arwen: ok, adept didnt find anything related to bit(tornado)
[12:08] <Arwen> bet4, oh well
[12:08] <bet4> it did install bittornado though via aptitude
[12:08] <orange1> c0nv1ct: u alive?
[12:08] <compilerwriter> Maybe i will just back up my home  directory and install from cd.
[12:08] <c0nv1ct> ya
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> compilerwriter: as long as you've got a decent net connection, no problems
[12:09] <antonio_> someone italian?
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> !it | antonio
[12:09] <ubotu> antonio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:09] <orange1> c0nv1ct: lets say i wanted to connect to irc from my school's limited connection -- by using my home connection - what is this process called?
[12:09] <bet4> uhm, adept is mighty buggy i suppose...if i only check installed it finds nothing conatining "bit" if i check uninstalled to it finds bittornado as installed
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> orange1: tunneling?
[12:10] <antonio_> tnx
[12:10] <acemo> is there anyway that i can set mplayer as default for all filetypes it supports? w.o having to right click, choose with, set this as default for each and single one of them?
[12:10] <bet4> on the other ahand locate bittornado also only gave me the icon
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> orange1: you could use ssh, or vnc too i guess
[12:10] <orange1> c0nv1ct: which is better?
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> orange1: depends if you want a GUI or a CLI
[12:11] <orange1> gui
[12:11] <c0nv1ct> orange1: then you will want a vnc
[12:11] <bet4> Arwen: ok, how do i find out how to launch it now?
[12:11] <metty_> compilerwriter, thx ;)
[12:11] <Arwen> bet4, uh... difficult, one sec
[12:11] <metty_> gn8 ;)
[12:11] <orange1> c0nv1ct: it doesnt matter if my home desktop is a windows box?